Barack Obama may have been born in America, but he seems to have been “made” somewhere else.
From Byron York at NRO:
In the audience Saturday [at the McCain rally in Virginia], there were plenty of people who were mad about [Joe the Plumber]. There was real anger at this rally, but it wasn’t, as some erroneous press reports from other McCain rallies have suggested, aimed at Obama. It was aimed at the press. And that’s where Tito Munoz came in.
After McCain left, as the crowd filed out, Munoz made his way to an area near some loudspeakers. He attracted a few reporters when he started talking loudly, in heavily-accented English, about media mistreatment of Wurzelbacher. (It was clear that Spanish was Munoz’s native language, and he later told me he was born in Colombia.) When I first made my way over to him, Munoz thought I was there to give him the third degree.
“Are you going to check my license, too?” he asked me. “Are you going to check my immigration status? I’m ready, I have everything here. Whatever you want, I have it. I have my green card, I have my passport — “
I was a little surprised. Did Munoz really bring his papers with him to a McCain rally? I asked.
“Yeah, I have my papers right here,” he said. “I’m an American citizen. Right here, right here.” With that, he produced a U.S. passport, turned it to the page with his picture on it, and thrust it about an inch from my nose. “Right here,” he said. “In your face.”
Munoz said he owned a small construction business. “I have a license, if you guys want to check,” he said.
Someone asked why Munoz had come to the rally. “I support McCain, but I’ve come to face you guys because I’m disgusted with you guys,” he said. “Why the hell are you going after Joe the Plumber? Joe the Plumber has an idea. He has a future. He wants to be something else. Why is that wrong? Everything is possible in America. I made it. Joe the Plumber could make it even better than me. . . . I was born in Colombia, but I was made in the U.S.A.”
The scene turned into a mini-fracas when David Corn, of Mother Jones, defended press coverage. Munoz was having none of it. Why, he asked, would the press whack Joe the Plumber when it didn’t want to report on Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, the former Weather Underground bomber? “How come that’s not in the news all the time?” Munoz said. “How come Joe the Plumber is every second? I’m talking about NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN.”A black woman with a strong Caribbean accent jumped in the fray. “Tell me,” she said to Corn, “why is it you can go and find out about Joe the Plumber’s tax lien and when he divorced his wife and you can’t tell me when Barack Obama met with William Ayers? Why? Why could you not tell us that? Joe the Plumber is me!”
“I am Joe the Plumber!” Munoz chimed in. “You’re attacking me.”
“Wait a second,” Corn said. “Do you pay your taxes?”
“Yes, I pay my taxes,” the woman said.
“Then you’re better than Joe the Plumber,” Corn said.
That set off a general free-for-all. “I’m going to tell you something,” Munoz yelled at Corn. “I’m better than Obama. Why? Because I’m not associated with terrorists!”
The reporter from Mother Jones believes people who pay their taxes are “better” than people who owe the government money. That, Folks, in a nutshell is the NeoLiberal approach to ethics and morals — reflexively condescending and profoundly hypocritical at the same time, just exactly like the Radical Right.
Miq2xu posted an excellent article related to this last night.
Gosh darn the MSM and the DONC for putting our nation through this. First they gleefully swarmed Hillary out of the race like a pack of rabid, sexist dogs — just to show us that a woman’s job is ALWAYS to help a man, no matter how incompetent and inexperienced he may be. “Shut up, Hillary. Sit down, Hillary.” That’s what they fed us every single gosh darn day and night during the primaries. The overriding message, from February to August, was “When will Hillary GO AWAY??”
And now they’re going after little guys: Joe, Tito, even baby Trigg. And I am SO SICK of being forced to participate in the virtual group-sexual-assault that the MSM is perpetrating on Sarah Palin. Enough. The freaks in the Radical Leftwing, who share with us daily their sexual fantasies involving Palin and some instrument of humiliation, are beyond the pale to me.
If there is ANYTHING good that comes out of this horrible psychodrama of an election it will be the permanent EXILE of the NeoLiberals. The collosal failure and disaster perpetrated on our country by George and Dick and Donald succeeded in making neocon a dirty word. A very good thing. Obama and the DONC’s hit job on Hillary, their assault on the working class, and their exposure as actually being, at the end of the day when all is said and done, pretty freaking UNAMERICAN will similarly discredit the NeoLiberal Freaks who are still holding our party hostage.
But keep your eyes on the prize, Pumas. We pay the ransom on November 4th.
ACTION LIST for OCTOBER 21, 2008
- Call the Obama Press Office and ask them when Sen. Obama will be releasing his Small Donors List. Hillary made hers available. So does John McCain. It is HOGWASH for the obama campaign to claim that they “don’t keep track of the information.” It is a LIE. Call today. Call often. Spread this phone number around and ask your friends to call: 312-819-2423.
- Call the Obama Press Office and ask them when Sen. Obama will be making a public statement denouncing the Terry Tate Youtube, the Palin pornographic film, and the relentlessly sexist and degrading attacks by his followers on Gov. Palin. Ask the Press Office when the Senator will be calling for his supporters to STOP the attacks on voters who oppose him! Call today: 312-819-2423.
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- Find a Puma Buddy to canvas or flyer with this weekend and next. In comments, shout out what area you’re in and ask for a buddy. If you are anywhere near a city in most of the 50 states, you will soon find at least one helpful Puma to join you. Greenfun and Billiejo in the Berkely CA area just got back from a weekend of canvassing in Reno and they had great fun while doing great work. You can too!
- Tell your friends to tune into blogtalkradio programs. There are a wide variety to suit everyone’s taste and you will get to meet a lot of new friends from all over the country. Tonight, you can Chew the Fat with Ophelia, from The New Agenda tonight at 10PM EST. Join Amy Siskind and Dr. Violet Socks talk about how women from both sides of the aisle can find common ground, work towards the 30% solution and move women’s issues forward for a better society for all. Dr. Lynette Long will be on this week with Sheri Tagg. Tune your cat channels to Puma United Radio (PURrrr!) and spread the word!
Oh, and here’s a picture of Sarah Palin that reminds me of the famous Hillary in the rain in a shiny black leather jacket picture from the primaries. Sarah Palin is a woman in control. And that’s pretty awesome.
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WHEELS UP, PUMAS!!!
API responds again:
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/ed-hale-the-so-called-president-of-plains-radio-usa-continues-to-loose-his-temper-due-failure-to-acquire-michelle-obama-tapes-and-use-them-to-make-quick-money-in-texas-plains/
THANK YOU MURPHY AND ALL THE PUMAS WHO HAVE GIVEN UNSELFISHLY OF THEIR TIME-MONEY-SUPPORT TO SEE THAT BARACK OBAMA IS NOT ELECTED AS THE NEXT POTUS!
BELIEVE IT AND IT WILL BE!
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Cuz I’m number 1! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Date:
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From downstairs:
Here’s an interesting chart of active-duty Reserve and NG member registered likely voters. PDF file. Broken down by ethnicity, amongst other things.
Bon Jour, Murphy and all Pumas
Homeless man in Dallas being interviewed by journalist on why he is homeless:
Homeless man’s answer: “Homeless? I am not ‘homeless’, America is my home!”
Unless the Obama Campaign applies for a withdrawal of admission and shows GOOD CAUSE, as of today, October 21, 2008, the Obama Campaign has legally admitted that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to hold the office of Presidency. Full coverage of this court proceeding can be read here: http://www.americasright.com/
That did it for my faith in the API!
Loose: to loosen the ties on your shoes.
LOSE: to lose an election, to lose your temper
This is a re-post from late last night.
Just a very small sample of our Nevada prowling. I do mean a small example because BillieJo brought about 40 different flyers…in english, spanish, about ACORN, caucus fraud-you name it.
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Murphy, excellent post (brought tears to my eyes).
See, people get it. Sweet, small town, honest, generous, hard working AMERICANS get it. We are all Joe the Plumber, and as such NOBAMA is our enemy.
There is a real disconnect between the media and supposed intellectuals/liberals. These people are so smart they cannot see how dumb they are, but ask any ‘average’ american (avoid Harlem though) and they can quote you pages on what is WRONG with Nobama.
This is really a universal historical fight between good and evil. Today it is just being fought with access to television/radio and money; a century ago it was fought with guns; 3 centuries ago fists.
Hopefully right will best wrong this year. We cannot be working hard enough to see this happen….
So, do we think that Obama is going to visit his grandmother because of the lawsuit filed by Berg?
http://www.americasright.com/
The story about Obama supporters’ tires slashed at his rally, only 11 claims have been filed, of the 30 reported by the newspaper.
Annnnnnd! Read this:
“A similar incident was reported Oct. 2, she said.
Five people reported that the tires of their vehicles were slashed while they were attending a concert by recording artists Trace Adkins and Alan Jackson, Tanna said.”
So it may be indigenous to the area, not WHO the cars belong to.
It could be people from the area who don’t want cars parked there.
I know in Philly, back in the 60s, at Connie Mack Stadium, you’d have to pay the neighborhood kids “protection money” so your car would be in one piece when you returned from a Phillie game.
Bottom line, if you go to the Colliseum, don’t park on Wilkes Road.
I’m Murphy the Blogger. I’ve also owed the government taxes.
My father is Chris the Contractor (he also has always used his middle name as his first)
My sister is Erin the Second Grade Teacher
My mother is Ann the Lawyer
My cousins and all my aunts and uncles are
Joe or Kate the Nurse, the Laborer, the Secretary, the Teacher, the Cop, the Social Worker, the Roofer, and the Lawyer.
I’m here earlier than usual this morning because I am so upset about what is going on in the important states concerning voter fraud. FOX has announced actual VOTER FRAUD, not simply voter registration fraud. And then there are the voters in Florida that arrive to vote with ballots all filled out, where all they have to do is copy what is on their copy of the ballot. It is thought that many ase non English voters are concerned in this practice.
My fear is growing with every report of FRAUD that OBAMA AND HIS GANG may actually pull off a fraudulent election. They did it in the primaries.
freddie, you’re prob’ly unconscious by now, but about naming links:
two issues;
1) standard html permits labelling/titling a link anything you want. Here is the usual format:
<a href=”URL goes here”>label/title goes here</a>
2) TinyUrl.com is a site that permits “squashing” of a long URL into a short one. Basically, it keeps a file of entered URLs with randomly generated short ’strings’ that can be used to link to the full one. They promise never to wipe the file.
NOW, they have added another “layer” — you can tie any word or phrase to the same URL and use that instead. But you have to keep track of your own assigned labels; they don’t have a personalized list function yet. And you can’t make a new one later for the same URL if you forget your first one. I use a special permanent Save file in the ClipMate package to hold mine.
“I’m Barack the Community Organizer”
Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it, does it?
(Certainly won’t fit on a poster)
FROM GRETA’S FORUM:
Comment by Becka
October 21st, 2008 at 9:52 am
Greta, I was wondering why I never see Michelle Obama, since the first lady has such an important role in the white house.
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THIS SURE IS “ODD”, HOW MANY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS HAVE YOU OBSERVED WHERE THE CANDIDATES WIFE IS SO “ABSENT” FROM THE PUBLIC????
re-post because I think it’s important , and there seems to be a growing consensus around the web ;
Last week it was reported that the Bush admin had been bringing both candidates in for security briefs by the CIA so that there transition will be more smooth regarding National Security Issues .
Now Biden is coming out and saying he ‘guarantees’ we will be faced with some kind of ‘test’ during the first 6 months .
Here’s the part that gets me – he goes on to say that we will not agree with the ‘direction’ the Obama admin is going to take in this conflict .
What we also know is that Israel has contemplated bombing Iran if Obama gets in because they don’t trust that he will side with Isreal .
SOOO – I think they may have some idea of Isreals real plans and I also think that Obama has decided to side with Muslims and Iran and will try to sell us his plan , and that’s what Joe is talking about when he says we won’t agree with Obama’s decision .
This is my theory and gut feeling , and I think all of America needs to really consider what their position is on protecting Isreal and they should know what’s at stake here …
#18 LeeinUSA
I think they are afraid of what MO will say.
Obie’s trip to Hawaii is regarding the b/c not to slight the grandmother, next week he will have a stamped sealed b/c. He wants to tie up any lose ends. Although I know it won’t happen but we Americans should be asking “who is the real Barak Obama” because we really don’t know he has not shown us his legitmate b/c so we are all in the dark and this man might(gasp) be our president elect this time next month.
Shasta—early voting started yesterday in FL, I received a notification along with a sample ballot and places where to vote early.
TT;
here’s a longer post on the Biden hint:
good morning PUMAs
my to-do list for today:
–call Obama press office about small donors list
–call back from yesterday to Obama press office to talk to a real person about Obama’s lack of concern over misogyny & hate-mongering
–call Reebok about Tate video
–gird my loins, take my pills, put on my Hillary baseball cap, then (shiver) go to the local McCain headquarters to see how I can help in my ‘hood
–print up a bunch of PUMA flyers & share generously
wherever my journeys take me today
–lastly, try to come up with an effective One Liner for anyone who confronts me about That One. My current best: November 4 is no longer about Democrat versus Republican … it’s now about Fascism versus Democracy
#17 kevink on 10.21.08 at 10:02 am
“I’m Barack the Community Organizer”
Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it, does it?
(Certainly won’t fit on a poster)
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Might sound better if we added: And I lie, cheat and steal my way to the Presidency…
just got an e-mail of a pic of a sign a guy made and put in his yard – sent it to the AC , but it says:
“On 10-3 Obama supporters Vandalized-Tresspassed and stole my MCcain Palin sign violating my First Ammendment right to free speech . Do it again and you will find out what the 2nd Ammendment is all about !”
Brian – AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!
Kevink;
“I’m Barry the Agitator”.
There, all fixed!
Good morning Dear Pumas:
MURPHY – you mentioned you were looking for a link regarding the polling indicating the swing states – think you were referring to Rasmussen as follows:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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You will see on this Page each states polls – swing states as of yesterday FLORIDA – 49-48% for McCain – BO has 3% lead with women – MISSOURI – 49-44%BO -
7% lead with women – OHIO 49-47% MCain – even with both women and men – N CAROLINA – 51-48 BO -6% lead with women – but McCain only 1% lead among men – VIRGINIA – big lead for Obama – 54-44% with a 5% lead with women and 3% lead with men
COLORADO – 51-46% BO – whopping 14% lead with women for BO.
As you said so rightly so Murphy – the PUMA WOMEN and independent men will have to decide this election -
I know everyone thinks Rasmussen is in the tank for BO – but being in advertising for 20 years as I have been – if that is the case – why is McCain advertising so much on the Rasmussen pages – you would think he would know that and it would be just the opposite – in my humble advertising opinion.
This morning I picked up my mom at the garage… she left her car there to be winterized. While waiting she was chatting with the garage owner, who our family has known for many years. He told her that BO is going to Hawaii to get a fake b.c. – not because of a sick grandmother. He isn’t a PUMA, but I think he SHOULD be, LOL…
Obama is going to hawaii this thursday and friday.
His grandmother is sick. Yeah right. Here is the contact info to write governor lingle to ask that all info
regarding his citizenshsip is released to martin without any interference from anyone. I think this is very important and if everyone wrote to her (she’s a republican) it could save our country!
Contact Information
Web Site: http://www.hawaii.gov/gov
E-mail: Contact Via ‘Web Form.’
State Capitol, Executive Chambers
Honolulu, HI 96813
Phone: (808) 586-0034
Fax: (808) 586-0006
Main District Office:
75 Aupuni St
Hilo, HI 96720
Phone: (808) 974-6262
Because MO has not been trained as Obie(camelion) has been over the years to cover her true feelings about issues —she is on a short leash for the time being.
I will be blogging on my above list of swing States – can someone give me an idea on how to target the womens issues such as the 14% in Colorado going for THAT ONE – is it they do not like Gov Palin – Roe vs Wade – I want to direct all my blogs to get that % down from BO – I can not accept they ALL drank the kool aide – just can’t put my finger on why so many go his direction (I know – I agree – polls are fickle and you can’t trust their results – but just in case – please humor me – it won’t hurt to try that approach) up to now I have going for the Acorn, Ayers, Rezko, etc etc etc routine – we need to sway others with their own arguments against BO…please….
Well, I had a REAL experience over the Tate Video prowl:
Sent someone to the PUMA site. Although this person repeatedly stated: “I do not believe a single word the mainstream media prints, because they are bought and paid for – but, if all this was true about Obama, McCain would be telling all of these facts on every campaign stop, every ad” etc., etc., etc.
My answer, “Is it McCain’s job to spoon-feed voters the facts about the candidates – do you really care about your vote, why you vote, what your vote supports or rejects?”
Went round and round for over an hour.
Outcome: Called PUMAS a bunch of lunatics, crazy, radicals, etc. and me “TRASH!” and hung up.
P.S. I want to personally thank everyone one of you on this person’s behalf. Your tax dollars contribute each and every month to this person’s disability check.
No matter what a person’s ideology, you must admire Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton.
They have shown all the world how strong American women are, once and for all.
With all the trash thrown at them, they never miss a beat. They don’t complain and stay focused on the important issues.
They never blink!
I am so proud of both of them. And of all women. (Except for those far-left who villify Palin and Hillary)We have never really had a chance to be on center stage, here in America. (Except for Ferraro where there wasn’t as much trash thrown at her)
Look at other parts of the world, there has been Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, Mrs. Bhutto.
We’re supposed to be the most progressive nation and yet where leadership by women is concerned, we’re one of the most oppressive.
Other than Pelosi whose leadership, gives women a bad name, we have never really spotlighted such strong women.
Sarah and Hillary shine as examples of leadership by women in America.
I know some Hillary supporters are disappointed she is campaigning for Obama, but she’s a woman of her word. Unlike him.
I just had to speak from my heart.
#11 jenniforhillary
“avoid Harlem”? That makes me uncomfortable. I hope I am misunderstanding the message.
Sen Graham just gave a huge shout out to Democrats for McCain at the Mac rally.
On Fox now talking about Biden.
JUST OUT: key “BATTLEGROUND” poll shows McCain -1 today.
Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:45:04 AM ·these guys have been highly accurate for the last 4 elections
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
thanks for the article Brian.
So, Al Quaeda will attack us AFTER the election, even if McCain is elected?
and additionally, Israel and the US have a coordinated, long-planned scheme to attack and destabilize Iran starting after the election but BEFORE January 20?
And this Israel-US v Iran plan is what Bush briefed McCain and Obama about last week, AND it is the reason Biden was being so cryptically scary the other day?
I don’t believe for a second that Granny is sick. BO will go to Hawaii and do just what they do here in Chicago. I hope they stop him and bring this farce to an end.
MKfromLA — jenni is referring to the preposterously ignorant responses a reporter in Harlem received from people who said they were voting for Obama on the “issues.” They didnt even know that Biden was Obama’s running mate, and didnt bat an eye when the reporter claimed that Obama was anti-abortion, just like his running mate Sarah Palin.
It’s not limited to Harlem though. It’s also not limited to the Dem Party. Most of us dont vote with a very deep knowledge of the candidates’ positions or platforms.
Gogandalf – i always point out that we have had the Most pro-life President EVER for the last 8 years and Roe v Wade hasn’t come up . Further , Stevens (chief justice )has said it was precident and had no interest in reviewing it . I hope that helps .
One more thing , most Americans believe in “choice’ but don’t like abortion , so I would also mention that , when discussing late term abortion survivors , Obama refused to allow a living , breathing , crying infant to be called a baby , but demanded that they only call it a ‘Fetus’ in order to deny the infant life saving measures .
I am a pro-choice Liberal , and that is just too much for me to stomach …
#40 Murphy – thanks. I was on vacation & off the internet for a couple of weeks. I missed that.
forgive me jenni?
TRUE?
TRUE?
http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/287/Default.aspx “Before my team left for Hawai’i I predicted we would bring down Obama. By sheer coincidence, one TV network was interested in my mission and has been tagging along with a camera crew.
Monday (today) we petitioned the Hawai’i Supreme Court to order Obama’s secret birth records released.
How did Obama respond? He suddenly discovered that his grandmother, who had supposedly been released from her hospital a week ago, when he showed no interest in her, needed his immediate attention. Cool, calm, collected Obama suddenly suspended his campaign and headed for Hawai’i.”
Murphy -
and additionally, Israel and the US have a coordinated, long-planned scheme to attack and destabilize Iran starting after the election but BEFORE January 20?
And this Israel-US v Iran plan is what Bush briefed McCain and Obama about last week, AND it is the reason Biden was being so cryptically scary the other day?
To the first question , it has been , so far a unilateral (Israel) threat to attack Iran if they fear that the leadership in the US will no longer be supporting them .
As for the second question , that is just my hypothesis , but , it seems that others are feeling the same way . I love the collective unconscious – unless everyone signed up to get the ‘memos’ is just wacko !!! LOL
Oh , this site thinks along the same lines as well.
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/
What does “rich” mean anymore? It has two meanings. I’ll start with the less obvious but more important definition.
First, “rich” is one’s personal value. Who you are, what you do, how you affect the world in positive ways. Personal growth through assisting others is one way in which we can become “rich.”
The other defintion of “rich” is the one which provokes morbid hatred and is often used to incite class warfare – that being monetary wealth.
I can assure you those making $250,000/yr are not rich. There are two reasons for this.
First, let’s assume the $250,000 is a single income. Anyone making a salary like this is entitled to enjoy it. Their lifestyle may include a nice home, vehicle and some luxuries. When you add up the cost of maintaining a lifestyle at the $250K level, 70 to 80% of this income is spent. Sure, it’s nice to have the ability to grow a nest egg like that, but some people (who make minimum wage) think these “rich” folks should eat at McDonalds and give their nest egg to the Federal government. They shouldn’t be penalized for getting an education, working hard and achieving.
Next, there are small businesses. These folks work. I mean they WORK. For example, I am available for my clients 12 hours, 6 days per week. Do the math. I barely scrape by. If every hour of my day were full of client interchanges, I would be really well off, but that is unrealistic and never going to happen.
Another example, a small mom&pop pizza shop (I’ve seen their books) located in a small town does quite well for themselves. They consistently clear $10,000 each week. That’s $500+K/yr. That sounds like a freakish amount of income; however, they also barely scrape by. You see, there are amny factors communists like Obama love to overlook. The main factor being “cost of doing business.”
When you run a business, you have expenses. Suppliers aren’t going to give you what you need for free and there is that ever present light bill which needs to be paid. Going back to the mom&pop pizza shop, their labor costs average 25% of their gross income while their food costs average another 40% of their gross. That’s 65% off of the top. Throw in overhead costs (electricity, gas, professional fees, maintenance, non-perishiable stock, etc) and the cost of doing business shoots up to an average of 85%. This leaves a profit of only 15%. You say, “well, they are taking home $1,500 per week.” Noooooooooo. They are paying 65% income taxes. They take home roughly $500 per week (after working 80+ hours.)
Then, they get to pay their own bills. Say bye-bye to that $500-ish and say hello to “tired as hell and heading back into the shop for another round.”
Raising taxes on these folks will put them in a hole… if not out of business.
Does anyone need further explanation?
Texas Tigress – thank you – I will go for that direction to see if I can sway anyone….
#35 MKfromLA
I think Jen is referring to this audio clip from Harlem.
Take a listen.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983
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“avoid Harlem”? That makes me uncomfortable. I hope I am misunderstanding the message.
Gogandalf- Also point out that everything he says is just Rhetoric ! he pays his women staffers less than his male staffers , and Mccain pays them more !
to clarify, Martin is over there with a lawsuit to try and get obama’s citizenship papers and any other info that would be pertinent…apparently Martin’s lawsuit is requiring Obama to be there Thursday and Friday of this week..
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-119741
On this Biden gaffe, and yes i do call it a gaffe.
Why in the hell, would he disclose, or even hint of this
dangerous possibilty? Does anyone remember McCain warning Obama and Palin, you dont sound those type of things out loud like that, (Palin’s Pakistan statement
about attacking across lines) which, i know we have been doing anyway…but Biden is a fool for devulging any information on a stump about us being attacked
no matter who wins or loses this election. Let’s see if Biden brings this up again on his next stump speech if he doesnt, we will know he has been told to shut the hell up about it. If he continues to use it, oh well, I think it would only hurt the Obama camp. Someone on Fox last night said jokingly they think Obama is a Repub implant, lolololololol
Texas: Thanks for the way you stated the Pro-choice issue:
I am so grateful for the facts about how Obama voted. It helped me to clarify my own position on a woman’s right to choice over her own body, and where I MUST NEVER FORGET OR DISREGARD THE OTHER “LIFE” involved.
We must find a way to protect both.
The Biden comment is getting a lot of traction in headlines in other parts of the world.
#47 Kempion >>>> Mac – “Kem, you’re hired”!
53 wontbackdown – it is just such a dificult issue , but I honestly believe that the majority of Americans are moderate in their stance . while we will defend the woman’s right to govern her own body , there are just not to many people who would deny a baby born alive medical treatment . At least not many mothers …
Good Morning, PUMA’s
In reading about Andy Martin, Phil Berg, and THAT ONE going to visit his grandmother, I can’t help but wonder whatever happened to Jerome Corsi.
I haven’t been able to read all the blogs lately, and would like to know if Mr. Corsi is feeling any better these days, than he did when he was wisked out of Kenya?
Anyone know? We surely could use his TRUTH at this CRITIAL time.
Thanks,
greta
Isn’t the gov of Hawaii a good friend of Palins?
Is it just me, anytime i have been told that my mother, father, grandparents were very close to what might be their last days, i was off and running, not waiting on anything. Obama’s waiting til Thursday kinda reminds me of his reaction to the economy crisis, just waiting around til it’s convenient for him, and we know hillary is with him…just a thought, God forbid something happen to his grandmother, afterall, i too am a human being
GOGANDALF:
Thank you for the encouraging poll numbers. Now if we can get the voter fraud under control, I believe we will come out the victors.
#49 mick – thanks for helping clarifying. Murphy did also.
This just caught my eye.
Now Congress is asking: Should the U.S. have its own domestic intelligence agency?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/20/domestic.intelligence.agency/index.html
#59 sistermoon3
Could THAT ONE’s delay in going to be by his grandmother’s bedside in her last days, just be another way of showing him as being ….
‘PRESENT’
Couldn’t help myself ….
greta
Al Quaeda attacked the US in 1993, the first year of President Clinton.
Al Quaeda attacked the US in 2001, the first year of Georg W. Bush.
And if their history repeats itself, Al Quaeda will probably try again next year, the first year of the new President.
So what else is new?
I noticed that trend in 2001, after 911. That’s Al Quaeda’s M.O.D.
They want to test the new President. That’s why they did it in the first year of Clinton’s and Bush’s presidency.
<——-NOT a racist…..just trying to get a smile in a day where one might be rare and HELL YES I’m referring to Howard Stern and Sal’s INTERVIEWS ON THE STREETS OF HARLEM piece which showed that there is way too much igorance out there and this ignorance allows someone like BO to gain power where IF PEOPLE TRULY EDUCATED THEMSELVES he would be SOL!!!
Posting this again as I think it again proves Obama is a liar. He was at a Conference in April/02 with Ayers and Dohrn. Notice he was the only political figure there, the other were professors and the like. I sent it to the media and McCain and no one has reported on this. Everything anti-Obama is supressed the the McCain camp is out to lunch on a lot of this stuff.
Conference Schedule
April 19th
2:00-3:30 p.m., Chicago Illini Union, 828 S. Wolcott
Conference Registration
3:30-5:00 p.m.
I. Why Do Ideas Matter? (a keynote panel)
We introduce the “meta” theme of the conference by hearing “success stories” from diverse voices discussing their experiences intervening intellectually.
Timuel Black, Chicago activist; Prof. Emeritus, City Colleges of Chicago
Lonnie Bunch, President, Chicago Historical Society
Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University Law School, Children and Family Justice Center
Gerald Graff, UIC, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences
Richard Rorty, Stanford University, Philosophy
6:00 p.m. Patricia Williams (Columbia University Law School) Harold Washington Library Center
7:30 p.m. Dinner for Patricia Williams and Conference Presenters
Saturday, April 20th 9:00-11:00 a.m.
I. Working Breakfast
This session brings together people taking on important social problems in theory and in practice. They will gather according to interest, such as “housing,” “poverty,” “human rights,” and “education,” to teach each other to create new collaborative networks. All are invited to participate.
Guest participants will include:
Arvis Averette (housing issues)
Jim Duignan (DePaul, Stockyard Institute)
Stevan Weine (UIC Psychiatry, refugees and survivors of terrorism)
and others
11:15-2:00 p.m.
III. Lunch and Public Encounters
Alternative breakout tours led by Chicago activists. Tours of Bronzeville and other communities, and visits to organizations that are working on partnering theorists with activists.
2:15-3:45 p.m.
IV. Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Experiences and applications of intellectual work in urgent situations.
William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days
Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights
Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science
Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times
Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator
Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)
4:00-6:00 p.m.
V. “Mini-Conference” on Genetics and Ethics: a special topic panel that acts like a test case of public intellectual work.
Lori Andrews, Chicago-Kent College of Law
Rex Chisholm, Northwestern University, Center for Genetic Medicine
Eduardo Kac, School of the Art Institute of Chicago
Martha Nussbaum, University of Chicago, Law and Philosophy
Dorothy Roberts, Northwestern University, Law
Arnold Eiser, University of Illinois at Chicago, General Internal Medicine (moderator)
6:00-6:45 p.m. End of conference reception.
‘Really Redneck’ RegionAfter calling his constituents ‘racist,’ Rep. Murtha clarifies remarks, says people in western Pennsylvania are ‘rednecks’
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Now, that really clears things up doesnt it LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
#19Texastigress: I think you are correct. Let me add a few more tidbits re the Executive Order prepared but not YET signed by Bush, which I and some others have mentioned periodically, in relation to your comments . After the order was prepared, and it was a while back, can not remember, I looked it up and read enough of it to see and understand its purpose was to give the authority to the President,if any event in the world occurred that threatened the interests of America to assert martial law in this country. That is how general it is…any event considered threating to our interts…
One report in the news indicated that this came as a result of the possiblily of a Barack Obama Presidency,
Specifially they did not want him and his views to have the aegis of deciding Middle East issues like Iran , et all
given his comments indicating a too close of leaning to radical Muslim groups, et al. Since the order is so general…it does not have to be a war…anything that is judged to be a threat to American interests.
How does that fit with Texas Tigress thoughts?
I would say folliong the premise of the Ex order, if Obama wins, then an event would happpen before the Inauguration and martial law would be called befor then!
This could also happen if McCain is elected President.
And, given the general nature of the order: if Georgie Poogies handlers want to ..they could say…this credible threat at some point . while he is still President is enough to call martial law as a .precaution for who knows whatever…
For Biden to stand there and say what he said about what he learned and use it as an attempt to generate support of Obama is a disgusting outrage…moreover, as others have stated here, all he really did was underline one more reason why not to elect this inexperienced continually morphing hologram who indicated once again when he selected Biden, the speaker of these words, how pathetic his (Obama) and Biden’s judgment are!
All of this in my view is a series of effects from 8 years of radical right rule and 8 years of neoLiberal, radical left complicity in Congress from Democrats no matter what their grandstand views after the fact state . and most importantl, given the moves of that party in this campaign cycle, in which, rather than correct, they one up, two up and are even worse in their methods used than the radical right nuts. Murphy is correct here for sure.
For 6 years I have said to friends, etc. that what really is going on and now with the financial situtaion here, I believe it more thorough is that the top % financial
world order, globalization, countryless 19th century Adam Smith greed monger money changers of BOTH RIGHT WING AND DEMOCRAT PARTY have not been in agreement on how things should be structured here to do their bidding and during this cycle some who had supported Bush support Obama…And guess what?
Very few of either support McCain, because he is much more a traditional Republican, than their own party leadrs (ultra right) have seen or wanted for 25 years.
The world oligharcial 1% ers are playing a real life monopoly game with the world and specificall y now here in American are clearly redefining and repostioning for their desires as they move on.
We must defeat Obama at all costs to our energy, mind and hearts. It is possible. It is happening …Onward
#57 gordana
I found Jerome Corsi’s lastest article, it’s from Sunday 19th.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78324
DISPATCH FROM NAIROBI
Obama funded foreign thug who promised Islamic state
Agreement with Muslims pledged to protect terrorists, throttle Christians, impose Shariah
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Posted: October 19, 2008
8:45 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
I give BO this he is not a dumb man (god that hurt just saying that) but on the flip side he is so transparent it’s not funny. Remember when the “family took a vacation in Hawaii (when the first talks of the Birth Certificate came out) . Then when all this is going down in Ohio with the hearings on fraud and Jennifer Brunner was fighting it , where did BO go to prep for his last debate OHIO.. the debates where in NY but he went to Ohio (and we all know the judge ruled in Brunner’s favor) now when Andy Martin is in Hawaii BO is again going there to see his “sick Grandmother”.
I hear you Texas. It is a “very difficult” issue.
The sad part is that, until now, I had never wanted to consider what can happen beyond the “procedure” — and the perimeters used to define the various stages under “law”.
Oddly, that is the whole issue in this election: Being fully informed on any issue involving our positions on the choices we — or our political parties (thus, our government) — make.
Today, more than ever, our country’s future, maybe very survival, depends on “average” Americans being hands-on!
Good mourning Pumas!
Palin dubs Obama: ‘Barack the Wealth Spender’
well, if the shoe fits wear it
#57 Gordana,
I heard Corsi on the radio a few days ago, on the web. I believe it was on World Net. He’s one of their correspondents.
Corsi talked about his trip to Kenya and proof he has that Obama, from his US Senate office, discussed Odinga’s strategy for election as President. Corsi also stated he has phone records of Obama and Odinga. Obama also, as you know, had Mark Lippert as his point man. Lippert was with Obama in Kenya in 2006, also.
He’s supposed to release more info soon. Check with World Net:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
#59 Mick -
Thanks ….
greta
and MK you are forgiven….I went back and read my post and I should have put a tag in it to Howard Stern (whom I detest but I thought that interview was shocking and a tad bit funny)….
Murphy is 100% right ignorance is running rampant from NEW YORK to CA to MI to FL and it crosses every economic, social, gender, sexual, age, and other line.
EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, PUMA is made up of a beautiful cross section of this country and I am dang proud that we can make the claim and BACK IT UP that we are Joe the Plumber, we are every American, and we speak for America. We just decided to choose informed over ignorant, and country over party.
Every single day I am more proud of PUMA and the people who work on behalf of this organization. And while I have lost friends and business associates over our fight, the new friends and the true hope being here gives me is more than enough reward for what has been lost.
I had a LONG talk yesterday with a very wealthy Texas Family who are connected with important religious leaders in this country. They tend to vote Republican, but they voted for Hillary in the primary and WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR HER in the GE until the Demonazis stole her win. They feel that the SILENT MAJORITY is going to come through in the end and we will have a victory for McCain/Palin. They feel that the polls and the media are wrong, and that when the majority of Americans go to vote they will vote McCain/Palin. Their fear is voter fraud.
We agreed that this country needs a NEW PARTY–one that takes the best of all existing parties and comes forth to actually do the right thing. Whatever happens, we have so much work to do….
First things first, DEFEAT OBAMONSTER!!
#74 Indy
Thank you – I look forward to hearing more ……
greta
new Orleans – I think the most ‘telling ‘ (foreshadowing ) statement Biden made was , “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”
This can be summed up to simply state “get ready , America ’cause you’re not going to like what we are getting ready to do to you !”
Murphy: I had not read Brian H’s article posted nor your comments to it before I posted my comments to Texas Tigress at post 19. My coments re possible event seemed logical given reports after Bush;s construction of Executive Order. In any case, I have thought..well now what would be worse: Martial law under the ultra right mouth piece, George, or Barack Obamaand concession to the radical left regarding Israel…George Soros and others do not agree with many of Israel’s positions…re issues there.
And I am asking myself this question over the last 7 months in the United States of America! I who have no paranoid or consipiracy tendencies….in my bones.
Clearly neither of these possibilities is acceptable.
We will defeat Obama and will rebel if any martial law is called regardless for something outside of our country occurring prior to inauguration in Jan.
“Today, more than ever, our country’s future, maybe very survival, depends on “average” Americans being hands-on!”
…God! I sure wish I had thought of that statement when I was fiercely defending my respect for Murphy, PumaPac.org, and all of its INVOLVED MEMBERS with that “you’re trash” friend of mine (now former) .
MURPHY–have you seen this???
On Fox, there is this horrid overtly sexual (I have seen episodes where they have joked about child rape, incest, bestiality, etc., etc.) gross show called FAMILY GUY. Well, last night they showed/intonated that only Nazis would vote for McCain/Palin.
Here is the link. Do we need to do a prowl?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,441301,00.html
Wontbackdown–you are the living embodiment of that…..and yes, shout it out that now is the time for all good people to take a stand and FIGHT for what is right!!
#78Texas Tigress: I agree.
WBD – this election has caused me to re-evaluate many of my positions and beliefs that I ,before, held to be unalterable.
I would have never in my life beilieved that the media would not report on FACTS , that the government would cover up voter fraud , that women would still be degraded in prime time and it would be okay .
I have been forced to ask MYSELF where I really stand and what really matters to me , and I have been shocked by my own answers …
Between Obama’s speeches and Biden’s speeches, who is spreading the fear…i never feel fear after listening to McCain or Palin, that speaks volumes to me
#55 mick
LOL
Self-employed but thanks!
(((((((Texas Tigress))))))) Yea…we are “oldies” but goodies!!! So is it time for you to go running through the tall grasses again scantily clad???
However, he was NOT born in AMERICA! But once again that is being shoved under the rug, I appreciate Joe Biden’s honesty by telling of the inevitable attack on AMERICA once Obama is in office, many of us, including many military have known this for some time. I have talked with Arabs in the Middle East who have said their support of Obama was just to weaken the United States, and that the NEXT attack will be Nuclear and it will result in millions of casualties…nothing like CHANGE! This will make the Liberals happy….so we are making provisions to leave the United States for a period of time.
Hi, I just tried to call the 312 number and so the lady was going to tranfer me, but then she told me the lines are very busy, and she gave me this (supposedly) direct number:
312-819-3008
I’ll try it now.
87 zephyr !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shhhhh – some new people still think I might have some dignity !!! lol
zephyr! hey there! good to see you.
invisible wave to all the ole time Pumas out there reading . . .
::wave!::
TT#90, not a chance.
#23 MKfromLA Noticed you are going to go to a McCain office and volunteer. The phone bank at their offices are for registered Republicans requested Absentee Ballots.
FYI – When I did it, I found out that the fraud of ACORN…making them Rep. but using business phone numbers. I flagged them all especially the ones at a Perkins that had a Get Out The Vote for #61. Took me five calls to finally get it and confirmed it with the GM that allowed it that was also voting for #61.
I also put my name and phone number on them but knew the local office would not address. Finishing letter to report since I had to work yesterday.
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
Thanks Kat — I’ll update the post.
Let us know what they say.
Hey Pumas, Get PROWLING, the day is YOUNG and Joe Biden is still a doofus.
ACTION LIST for OCTOBER 21, 2008
* Call the Obama Press Office and ask them when Sen. Obama will be releasing his Small Donors List. Hillary made hers available. So does John McCain. It is HOGWASH for the obama campaign to claim that they “don’t keep track of the information.” It is a LIE. Call today. Call often. Spread this phone number around and ask your friends to call: 312-819-2423.
* Call the Obama Press Office and ask them when Sen. Obama will be making a public statement denouncing the Terry Tate Youtube, the Palin pornographic film, and the relentlessly sexist and degrading attacks by his followers on Gov. Palin. Ask the Press Office when the Senator will be calling for his supporters to STOP the attacks on voters who oppose him! Call today: 312-819-2423.
* Go to our Action Center for graphics, flyers, postcards, and other ideas on getting the word out on the streets. JOIN Puma PAC for mass action alerts (always free and fun; we NEVER share email or spam you).
* Meet Harriet Christian in Manhattan on Saturday and Sunday from now until the election. She is rounding up a posse to go to Scranton, PA to canvass in coordination with Democrat’s for McCain. If you’re interested, send her an email at hchristian at infnyc dot com. The buses leave from 31st Street and 8th Ave at 9:00AM.
* Join Paulie and MariLu and Real Democrats on their canvassing Bus Tour of Ohio. They are having HUGE success reaching out to Democrats and Independents and also having HUGE fun doing it! Click HERE to join them.
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* Visit johnmccain.com to make phone calls from home. You don’t have to sell your soul to the Republican Party to take this action. Simply call voters in swing states and tell them the TRUTH about WHY you are not voting for Obama. If you’ve forgotten all the reasons, read through the comments HERE for succinct, heart-felt, and inspirational reasons.
* Find a Puma Buddy to canvas or flyer with this weekend and next. In comments, shout out what area you’re in and ask for a buddy. If you are anywhere near a city in most of the 50 states, you will soon find at least one helpful Puma to join you. Greenfun and Billiejo in the Berkely CA area just got back from a weekend of canvassing in Reno and they had great fun while doing great work. You can too!
* Tell your friends to tune into blogtalkradio programs. There are a wide variety to suit everyone’s taste and you will get to meet a lot of new friends from all over the country. Tonight, you can Chew the Fat with Ophelia, from The New Agenda tonight at 10PM EST. Join Amy Siskind and Dr. Violet Socks talk about how women from both sides of the aisle can find common ground, work towards the 30% solution and move women’s issues forward for a better society for all. Dr. Lynette Long will be on this week with Sheri Tagg. Tune your cat channels to Puma United Radio (PURrrr!) and spread the word!
#81 jenniforhillary:
My Tate-Video prowl bruises aren’t that bad… compared to the brain injuries of those who “didn’t see anything wrong with it”!
IN FACT… I AM PROUD OF THAT PROWL AND AM UP FOR ANOTHER! (Thanks Jenni!)
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ME TOO ((((((((((TEXAS!)))))))))))))
And am really liking the CLARITY! Dances put all of this in the context of a “paradigm shift”. I think she was right on!
Hey – I just got a very different response from John Cornyn (yuck) regarding the Logan Act Violation than jen got from feinstein yesterday ..
Dear Ms. *******:
Thank you for contacting me regarding elected officials interfering in U.S. negotiations with Iraq. I appreciate having the benefit of your views on this matter.
Under Article II, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, the President is charged with conducting diplomatic relations with foreign countries. If any elected official interferes with diplomatic negotiations without having been requested to do so by the President, the United States cannot speak with a unified voice to other nations. Such an interjection sends the message that the United States is divided in fighting the War on Terror. Elected officials owe it to all Americans to establish a strategy for victory in the War on Terror and to support it with one voice.
I appreciate having the opportunity to represent the interests of Texans in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.
Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator
#65 jenniforhillary
By the same token, when John went to Harlem, the premise of his pop-vox was to use Senator McCains political positions and attribute them to obama to see if people in predominately black were voting based on race v issues.
I’ll assume that he edited out/didnt include those responses that didn’t lend themselves to the entertainment value and premise of his piece, i.e. those who challenged him, those who corrected or were otherwise informed about the issues and candidates.
hello puma’s. I have been lurking for a few weeks. Things are looking up! I just received my flyers from freddiebrown, and am ready to go.
Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_EAe1N9-M
If we take pre-emptive action against Iran NOW, we wont have to worry about Martial Law. Or Obama. He can go back to shinning shoes at Harvard. And MO can resume her job training pitbulls to be mean.
I printed off a hardcopy of the post from American Thinker submitted by Brian. To watch and see if events unfold anywhere near similarly.
#65 jenniforhillary Thank you for helping me understand. I missed the whole fake reporter interview thing entirely.
here is the best simplest video to see to educate how the president is elected….it would be great for children in school……..it covers everything except that the electors are free to vote for how they want when they meet in December to cast the “OFFICIAL” vote for the president….we elect the delegates to represent us and the delegates are from a list based on what party wins that state and then they are free to vote for whoever they want….but that just complicates the matter…HUH?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok_VQ8I7g6I
FINALLY got through reading the LATE NIGHT Puma crew’s post and have to clarify a rumor that someone started – they saw just the last part of a clip from that STUPID David Letterman show – it was a joint rally with Sen Clinton and Sen Biden – which were real people – but then Letterman – switched the ending to someone (made everyone think it was Biden) that slapped Sen Clintons behind in a blue pantsuit – it was a prank – the type that he always inserts – was not true – just one of his little pranks – so hopefully that has cleared up – I don’t like Biden – but he did not do that.
Important re-post !
562 ssmithssmith on 10.21.08 at 8:24 am
Hi PUMAs,
I normally only lurk… but I am hoping you guys can do a PUMA prowl for the following info… if you can let people near Philly (and places close by) know about this rally, and encourage them to attend, FOX news and HBO will be covering it.
Thank you
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HBO and FOX will be covering this – we need to get as many people there as possible!
Go to http://www.democratsforMcCain.com for more info.
DemocratsforMcCain.com has finalized plans for a big event in Philadelphia this Saturday, Oct. 25th. HBO will be covering the Event for a Special they are doing. Several other media outlets will be there.
The Event is from 11AM until 5PM. The start off point is The Constitution Center: Arch Street between 5th and 6th Streets in Philly.
The Event is Called: McCain Brotherly Love – A Liberty Event.
The Liberty Group will be a list of grass-roots organizations that will be marching and canvassing and rallying at the end of the Event. I was hoping you could get the word out to all your people and every possible organization supporting Senator McCain in New Jersey (that you know of). Have people go to my Web site for details: http://www.democratsformccain.com.
an eggsellent point dwp.
oh how we lie by omission.
thank you gogandalf #104.
and oooohhhhh, david letterman can a take a very very long walk off a very very short pier.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/obama-praised-searing-timely-book-ayers/comments/
I’m sure you’ve seen this…maybe not.
ayers/obama continues to surface.
dances…too true….
I am still shocked though that ANYONE could be that misinformed….but heh, look at HOLLYWOOD, THE LIBERALS, THE MSM, PEOPLE VOTING FOR BO
Ignorance is a terrible thing….
#78 TexasTigress:
[This can be summed up to simply state “get ready , America ’cause you’re not going to like what we are getting ready to do to you !”]
…That Drivers License “Digital Chip” implementation next year is getting scarier by the moment.
ATTN:
I called 312-819-3008
I spoke to a woman. Told her I was a Hillary supporter and registered democrat. Didn’t say I was a puma off the bat. I said that I was still undecided because I was concerned about TRANSPARENCY in the Obama campaign. I wanted to know if the small donors information would be released since I know that Hillary and McCain released their information.
This woman IMMEDIATELY ignored what I was saying and said: “I was a Hillary supporter as well, and I understand you may be undecided, but if you care about women’s rights and Roe v Wade, Obama is the right choice.
I said I wasn’t talking about women’s rights and abortion. I was talking about open transparency and honesty, and I wanted to know where half of his 1/2 a BILLION dollars was coming from.
She said: Where are you hearing this from? Obama released his amount $150 million just a few days ago.
I know. I am asking about the individual donors. This concerns me.
She told me to hold on, then she came back and told me that Obama doesn’t have to release small donor info ($250 and below) by law.
I said: I know that. The issue is transparency and openess because the McCain campaign has been open about their dealings.
She said that the republicans are trying to lie about Obama’s donations.
I said: So prove them wrong, and release the information.
She told me: You know, Hillary backs Obama 100%….women’s issues…something….
I said: Hillary? No, I am voting. Hillary has her vote, and the issue isn’t women’s issues. It’s honesty and openess and transparency.
She said: The republicans lie about everything so…
I said: So does Obama. That’s one of the reasons why I am undecided.
She sighed heavily–angrily. Then she said: well, they will not be released.
Then I said: Well, I won’t vote for him unless it’s released and I will protest and get my friends and family to protest.
She said: GoodBYyYYyeeeeee. And hung up.
SO call that number and tell them you want TRANSPARENCY and to release their small donor list because it is suspicious that he is the only candidate who refuses to do so. WARNING: The O staff will lie and pull the guilt trip garbage, just stay on topic.
“Chew the Fat with Ophelia, from The New Agenda tonight at 10PM EST”
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This was on last night but there was a major tech difficulty, so the program was rescheduled for Thursday night, 10pm Eastern.
have you seen this Gaddafi’s speech about Obama being Muslim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSemkPChvHo
jennifer – look at my #96 . I am voting Norriega , but I thought it sounded promising compared to the Feinstein memo …
Spread this around. I took the test. I bet some Obama supporters would be surprised by the result.
http://www.barackobamatest.com/
hey yall
LILOBET – you are quite welcome – I agree with you as well – if we can get the fradulent votes thrown out – McCain will beat BO.
TEXAS TIGRESS – you betcha I have already been blogging the pay senario of his staff – men get more than women – but the obots come back and say that I am distorting my comments – it all depends on the job description that they hold – darn pesky obots – they will do anything – need to swat them with a swatter – they will not stop me from saying it though -
#91 Murphy.
Invisible wave back at cha!!!
“Barack Obama may have been born in America, but he seems to have been “made” somewhere else.”
Are you sure he was born in America? I have been reading that is still yet to be proven.
#93 NoMoreInFl
Thanks for the tip. One other thing maybe you can help me with. Why is everyone saying #61? I must have missed that one too while I was on vacation.
#111 kat In Your Hat: Oh that was good I wish I could make phone calls like you just did but I can’t, I hope a lot of puma’s will make that call.
Hi Ario!
Thanks DWP #112
I hope to call in and talk about this article by anti-pornography crusader Catherine MacKinnon in the WSJ today. She says Obama is the Way Forward for Women.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122455083611552585.html
A note about blog talk radio — the number and variety of shows keeps growing.
Sugar and Spice
Betty Jean Kling
Conflucians Say
Ophelia
They are REALLY good.
an EGGSELLENT alternative to the Letterman and Family Guy bs we are inundated with.
119 Bella-Me
As far as I know, there are three active lawsuits regarding Obama’s citizenship right now.
1. US District Court, Eastern District, PA – Berg v. Obama, 08-cv-04083-RBS
2. Superior Court, Seattle, WA – Stephen Marquis – 08-2-34955-1 SEA
3. Circuit Court of the First Circuit, State of Hawaii, Andy Martin – 08-1-2147-10
Another court case you might be interested in:
Kenneth Conner vs. Mutual Bank, Circuit
Court of Cook County, IL – 2008L011470 This lawsuit is where Mr. Conner was fired by Mutual Bank in Chicago because he would not cover up the inflated appraisal of the property purchased by Obama and Rezko. It appears Rezko lied to the Judge – who is considering a lesser sentence
for Mr. Rezko’s felonies!
oh my gosh Kat in Your Hat.
You are EXCELLENT.
Come on Pumas — make the call and demand TRANSPARENCY!
Let us know what response you get.
Every Brag inspires another Puma out there to get active.
Make the call and come back here and Brag!
312-819-3008
THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT I WROTE ON ONE OF MY COMMENTS ON THE API SITE THIS MORNING.
“EX PUMA:
LOOK WHO IS CALLING GOVERNOR PALIN, WHO HAS AN 80% APPROVAL RATING IN ALASKA, AN IDIOT. I KNOW, YOUR ANSWER WILL BE ALASKANS ARE ALSO IDIOTS.”
THANK GOD, YOU ARE AN EX. I’LL BET YOU WERE THROWN INTO THE PUMA DUNGEON.”
I didn’t mean to shout. A bad habit of mine to forget to release the caps lock.
“Real Democrats Thank No Quarter Open” Threadhttp://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/21/real-democrats-thank-no-quarter-open-thread/
Here you go Pumas, some pictures of Real Democrats on the road and their McCain RV.
Please join them or contribute if you can.
prowlland #123, hmmm, I wonder if Obama will be going through SEATTLE to get to HAWAII on thursday.
just a thought.
#119 Bella-Me, I agree when Bo was at that dinner the other night and he said I was not born in a manger I YELLED , no , and you were not born in the USA either. Stupid foreign made piece of junk
Just got word in my e-mail:
Obama admitted by Default NOT US Citizen.
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/obama-and-dnc-admit-bergs-allegations-true/
109 jenniforhillary
the ignorance isn’t limited to Harlem or some African Americans though. I can’t tell you how many conversations I’ve had over the past year where my mind has boggled over responses to why people *aren’t* voting for obama. No matter which side one supports, the least voters can do is inform themselves… altho, given overt media bias, that can be quite a quest. Voters probably believ they *are* informed!
P.S. Murphy, I’m on the way to the kitchen to pick up my cell phone so I can start making calls. I may not make many intelligent remarks here, but I always do the prowls.
Good Morning Pumas. Went to the Las Vegas airport yesterday and wore a McPalin Maverick t-shirt, I printed out Freddies black and white flyers and took them with me. I left them on cars at the airport, went to casinos and left them at slot machines, bathroom counters and at the valet desk when we left. I didn’t get any flack from any one but quite a few thumbs up! I am going back next week, so will be doing it all over again. Too much fun. Going to Grand Canyon for the day but not to many Americans, still taking some of the flyers and tape for the bathrooms.
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20171627&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8
another very interesting read…long but for someone that is following the obama/rezko connections it speaks.
#91 ((((Murphy)))) Thanks!!! Have been helping out behind the scenes when I can….and am VERY THANKFUL for all the PUMAS and your resolve and comittment to the cause. No matter what happens in two weeks I think this blog and others from the original JSND ( though you have said it is almost defunct?) should regroup and continue to stay connected…because obviously the DEMS need some SERIOUS REFORM!!
One thing I have done to spread the word is mention Pumapac dot org on a personals profile on a website….figuring some may be interested enough to take a peek.
Here is great material for a flier. I love this as a flyer. Can someone get it printed up. This has to win some votes. I hope I copy and paste this correctly.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/im-voting-democrat-because-i-believe-the-government-will-do-a-better-job-of-spending-my-money-than-i-would-why-are-you-voting-democrat/
Posted by someone at
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html?cid=135648059#comment-135648059
Why I am voting Democrat!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is good for everybody! It’s Patriotic!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. All profits are evil and should be confiscated for Government Redistribution.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that MORE Government regulations and higher taxes on Business will stop Business from exporting their jobs to Countries with LESS Government regulations and lower taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe terrorists should be allowed to have trials in American courts. And be able to subpoena top secret documents, soldiers, government officials, etc. to cross examine for their defense. They should have ACLU lawyers who can help intimidate Americans who serve on the juries!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Gay Marriage should be the law of the land and will probably produce better children.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe English should not be the official language of the United States. I don’t mind pushing one for English when I use the phone.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe partial birth abortion is okay but water boarding a terrorist is disgusting.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is a good thing. It allows for great relations with foreign terrorists.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in a FREE government health care system. I believe doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. will gladly donate their time, products, services, facilities, etc. for FREE and that will be a better system.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in and support trial lawyers, frivolous lawsuits and outrageous jury verdicts.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe 9/11 was an inside job to con the American people to go to war for oil.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe social security is solvent and that there is a social security lock box and I don’t believe social security is a Ponzi scheme.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe MOST AMERICANS are bitter and cling to their guns and religion. Let’s rid our country of guns and religion!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe illegal aliens deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe corporations should pay higher taxes! I believe higher taxes on business will make the price of their products and services LESS EXPENSIVE.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe groups like ACORN who register felons, drug addicts, wino’s, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count more.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe celebrating the winter solstice shows compassion for the small minority of people that do not celebrate Christmas.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe hard core criminal murders and rapists deserve life and that the innocent unborn deserve death. It’s a choice I can live with.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and he blew-up the levies in the ninth ward of New Orleans.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that any one who is not partaking in one of the many wonderful government programs obviously has too much money and should pay higher taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq the terrorists will be happy and now think of us as good people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe our soldiers are AIR RAIDING villages and killing innocent people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe sex in the Oval Office with an intern is a private matter and that everybody lies under oath about sex.
I’m votin Demokrat becuse I wus edumkated at a publick sckrool. I lik da Natsionel Edukatshun Assoseeashun!
I’m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as it does not offend people. Can’t we all just get along?
I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits are wrong. I believe higher taxes on oil companies will produce lower prices at the pump.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe we need to rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil, BUT I AM AGAINST offshore drilling for oil and natural gas, drilling in Anwar, building nuclear power plants and clean coal technology.
And finally, I’m voting Democrat because I believe Reverend Wright when he said “GODDAMN AMERICA” and “OUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST”. Hey let’s make a comfortable nest for those chickens!
Why are you voting Democrat?
From RED ALERT ON FORGERY OF EMAILS: Ed Hale forges emails between us and himself om Obama saga, 2008/10/21 at 6:40 AM
I changed my handle from GoHillaryGo to GoPumaGo in protest for the strong support Hillary is showing for Obama.
Apparently the Michelle Obama lobster/caviar/champagne story was a total fabrication.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10212008/gossip/pagesix/room_disservice_134490.htm
I sincerely regret pushing the story.
p.s. lillibet — you are the best!
“Russell Pulls Ahead Of ‘Racist” “Redneck” Murtha”
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/good-news-murtha-in-political-trouble.html
I probably won’t say this very intelligently but if there are any psychologists on here I am sure they have a name or condition for personalities like Bo’s, I have been around people like him (IE) they do things to get attention, like not giving up information that would prove he isn’t doing anything illegal, because if he holds on to it he has people’s attention kind of like a publicity ploy.
I really don’t want Obama and hope he is not a citizen but find it hard to believe there is merit. I mean how could it be hidden so long? Do you really believe he is not an American?
Obots. Meet pavement.
Obamothugs Try to Block Palin’s Motorcade– Get Pummeled Instead
Three cheers for the Grand Junction police!
Several Obamothugs were wanting to block Sarah Palin’s motorcade in Grand Junction on Monday.
Sadly, they were tackled on the pavement instead:
CNN has the video:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/21/palin.motorcade/#cnnSTCVideo
(hat tip Gateway Pundit)
pookie , Narcissistic Personality Disorder . look it up in the DSM
#136 Murphy: I really wondered how anyone could have obtained that receipt. I sent that out in email’s myself, because I thought it was true. I really hate that.
Thanks mick.
Stupid obots.
pookie -
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV-R), the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as “a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.”
#127 Murphy…..I’m sure BO will be making more stops than just visiting sick granny. It’s interesting that granny was released from the hospital yesterday and is back in her apartment…. and to think he didn’t even visit his own mother when she was dying….
“Later in life when his mother was dying of ovarian cancer, he did not visit her at all. He later said he regretted that he didn’t. Another issue of poor judgment and lack of empathy for Barry’s OWN dying mother”.
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?threadID=510024349&tstart=0&mod=1223430185344
Don’t know if you all heard about this, but my ex-best friend’s (now an Obamabot) mom who lives in Tampa told me about this when we spoke on the phone yesterday. Thought I would look up the story to get the particulars. What can be said about a candidate who inspires such behavior in his disciples (and they are disciples, not fans)?
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Car displaying McCain sticker vandalized
Saturday, October 18, 2008
CLEARWATER (Bay News 9) — A Clearwater man’s vehicle that displayed a bumper sticker supporting John McCain has been defaced in what appears to be a hate crime, authorities say.
According to authorities, 41-year-old Frank Armstrong’s 2006 Lexus LS 430 was parked on the 1400 block of Gulf Boulevard when someone or a group of people scratched the letters “KKK” into the paint and burned a U.S. Flag on the vehicle.
Authorities say those involved also used cigarettes to burn several areas of the car and apparently urinated on the car.
Armstrong’s vehicle displayed a bumper sticker supporting the McCain campaign and another that was anti-Barack Obama leading investigators to believe the crime was racially or politically motivated.
No witnesses or surveillance video have been found.
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/10/18/393426.html
(Dept. Of Justice)
DOJ attorneys in the bag for Obama?
Rosslyn Smith
“Quin Hillyer of the DC Examiner is asking whether we have public servants or stealth political partisans inside the Department of Justice.
In all, DOJ lawyers and staff in the metro area have donated at least $150,000 to Obama. No wonder they seem more interested in prosecuting those who warn against vote fraud than enforcing vote-fraud laws.
These are the attorneys who have the sole legal responsibility to assure fair elections under the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA). From their inaction on the ACORN cases may we presume their legal interpretation of “fair” is Obama must win?”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/doj_attorneys_in_the_bag_for_o.html
New powerful video by GBPuma (I love this Puma!)
You might recognize the script (dm?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud0uGdgfvR0
Thanks TT
Hello PUMAS.
I wrote to Sister Baird who is the Director of Race Relations for the Archbishop of Chicago re: Fr. Andrew Greeley’s racist comments:
October 15, 2008
Chicago Sun-Times
Father Andrew Greeley
“[Palin] is a racist wither her eye on the White House. She can stir up crowds to shout “kill him.” How can she ever justify silence when she heard a cry for lynching?
McCain increasingly acts like an angry, befuddled, cancer survivor and treats his rival like a field n***** who is just barely human.”
I got this response:
Ms. Ruffo,
I cannot speak for Fr. Greeley and would suggest that you address your
concerns about his comments regarding Sarah Palin directly to him. As
a citizen he certainly has the right to voice his opinion.
Informed readers have the obligation to search out the truth for themselves.
Unfortunately, racism has raised its ugly head during this election.
Whether or not someone actually shouted “kill him” has not been proven and I pray that it did not happen, but I do believe that both campaigns must stop the personal attacks and focus on the issues that we are facing as a nation.
This country will not survive if we are divided and fearful of one another.
The best thing that we can do as Catholics is to read Faithful Citizenship, vote with an informed conscience and pray to God that in the end we have elected the best persons to lead this nation for the next four years.
Sr. Anita Baird
I wrote back:
Sister Baird,
But you are the Director of Race Relations for the Archbishop. Are you telling me that you will not address this man who speaks for the church to the archbishop? Does the church turn a blind eye to people who represent them? He still calls himself a priest.
I do pray every day that the right person, the one who will guide our country in a Christian manner and protect the lives of all citizens, born and unborn, wins in November. I have great fear that like when Hitler was coming to power the church and the most powerful nations did nothing until it was too late for many millions of Jewish people.
I regret your inaction on this. Directing questions to the man himself, who obviously has no regard for his church, is fruitless in my estimation. I had hoped that in your position you could do your part to stop the madness. It seems all of Chicago is in a spell.
I hope that God blesses you and that your conscience is clear.
Sincerely,
Texas tigress…don’t you think as well with correlative ongoing sociopathic actions, ii,e lieing outright, dissembling for attention, morphing of personality to mirror positive, acquiescent response from others, deconstructing and reconstructing the past, immmediate and far distant…?
Bo is like the little boy that cried wolf too many times. It is possible his grandma is really ill and the fact that he didn’t visit his dying mother has bothered him all this time, but he has lied so much how can anyone believe him when he needs them to.
#139 Pookie….Definitely Narcissitic Personality Disorder with sociopathic traits as well. I think he also has an attachment disorder…I saw a picture of him last night as an older teen and his grandmother was hugging him and he wasn’t hugging her back, he just looked at the camera with a cheshire cat grin…..I don’t think BO cares about anyone except himself!!
“Oprah Winfrey is offering to “produce” the half-hour Barack Obama advertisement set to air on Oct. 29″
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoo.htm
#151ruffo: My kind of Catholic…where is my link to your BVM shining away in your front or back yard??LOL Ruffo
136 murphy on 10.21.08 at 12:01 pm Apparently the Michelle Obama lobster/caviar/champagne story was a total fabrication.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10212008/gossip/pagesix/room_disservice_134490.htm
I sincerely regret pushing the story.
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Murphy,
Perhaps we all jumped the gun here, but just because she was not staying there does not mean that the order was not made.
At conventions and other large gatherings, it is not unusual to rent a suite for meetings and only for meetings. If I recall correctly, wasn’t that on the same date as the Memorial Dinner at the Waldorf?
Hey Murphy, until the NYPOST wrote the retraction …you didn’t know it was a false story. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
It’s very hard to discern what’s true or not anymore from any of the media sources. And then again …maybe they were paid to write the retraction…that’s what popped into my mind. Wouldn’t put it past NoBO and his campaign.
#152 NewOrleansPuma: what in the hell did you just say? Remember some of us are just apprentices here. LOL
I would like to share an e-mail I received today. It’s scary to think someone is registering my e-mail address! Scary, and it pisses me off!! Oh by the way, I’m still a registered dem:
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Account details for rosieposie at Republicans for Obama
rosieposie,
Thank you for registering at Republicans for Obama. You may now log in to http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=user using the following username and password:
username: rosieposie
password: rosered
You may also log in by clicking on this link or copying and pasting it in your browser:
http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=user/validate/2681/1224567620/15e81ddb3f7edee998f9d4d9aabf898a
This is a one-time login, so it can be used only once.
After logging in, you will be redirected to http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=user/2681/edit so you can change your password.
– Republicans for Obama team
“don’t you think as well with correlative ongoing sociopathic actions, ii,e lieing outright, dissembling for attention, morphing of personality to mirror positive, acquiescent response from others, deconstructing and reconstructing the past, immmediate and far distant…?”
Some people have a way with words, others, not have way.
159 Pookie
You have to read NewOrleansPuma’s comment slowly in order to comprehend and savor them.
This from downstairs (this blog is going too fast!)
#46 murphy on 10.20.08 at 10:08 pm
Hillary is a Puma. Automatically.
Therefore, no insulting of Hillary is allowed, as per our number 3 rule: No Insulting Other Pumas, including condescension.
But comments insulting Hillary will be deleted from now on.
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and admire so much Hillary that I really really hope she gets the chance to lead this country!)
BillieJo said:
Thank God, thank you Murphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I also want to add another BIG BIG THANK YOU MURPHY!
(I’m a lurker, but a very loyal lurker
#113 sistermoon3
NO, NO, NO, … this video is a total fake. That is NOT Gaddafi. Gaddafi is much older than that person.
PLEASE y’all, we have to be VERY careful not to buy into some of the bullcrap that is out there on the Internet … it will make up look foolish is we forward this kind of stuff around.
Always research and verify what you find.
Here is a recent pic -
http://www.catholic-church.org/ejtyler/Pictures/ColonelGadaffiLibya.jpg
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have you seen this Gaddafi’s speech about Obama being Muslim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSemkPChvHo
thanks Zephyr and Grizzly,
But honestly, my puma senses were tingling on that one and I should have listened to my inner nag.
The momentum behind Michelle Obama hatred is nearly as strong as the fuel that fires Palin Hatred. Maybe stronger.
I have to be extra careful not to let that crap overtake my good sense.
NOP if you want to hit him up with a dual diagnosis , I will vote for Borderline with Narcissistic tendencies
or vice versa
well Kat you are fast…thanks for the youtube comment…I just finally got the final version up an hour ago………spred the word
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud0uGdgfvR0
NPD Criteria:
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:[1]
has a grandiose sense of self-importance
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is “special” and unique
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement
is interpersonally exploitative
lacks empathy
is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
#159 Pookie…In layman’s terms….He has no conscience, he is like a chameleon, acts the way he thinks people want him to act to gain a positive response, making his past suit his needs at present….in other words he is very disturbed!!
163 cspadafora
This from downstairs (this blog is going too fast!)
#46 murphy on 10.20.08 at 10:08 pm
Hillary is a Puma. Automatically.
Therefore, no insulting of Hillary is allowed, as per our number 3 rule: No Insulting Other Pumas, including condescension.
But comments insulting Hillary will be deleted from now on.
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BillieJo said:
Thank God, thank you Murphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I also want to add another BIG BIG THANK YOU MURPHY!
(I’m a lurker, but a very loyal lurker and admire so much Hillary that I really really hope she gets the chance to lead this country!)
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Tritto!
Can you believe this e-mail I got. As if I would let one of those thugs in my house. E-mail him and tell him what you think.
Across the country, hundreds of dedicated young people are joining us in an all-out effort to help elect Barack Obama — and dozens of these organizers are coming to Florida to help Obama make history on November 4.
Our organizers will be working incredibly hard over the next three weeks, but they will need at least a few hours of sleep each night. Do you have a couch, an extra bed or even some floor space that you can spare?
http://www.environmentamerica.org/voter-action/host-an-organizer?id4=ES
In the next three weeks our organizers will be talking to thousands of undecided voters, helping to spread the word that Barack Obama is the right choice for America’s environment.
Offering a spot in your home would make a huge difference, so we can devote more of our energy and resources toward winning this election.
Click the link below if you have an extra bed or couch to offer, and please forward this e-mail to anyone who might be able to help.
http://www.environmentamerica.org/voter-action/host-an-organizer?id4=ES
Thanks for helping in whatever way you can.
Sincerely,
Adam Rivera
Environment Florida Field Organizer
AdamR@environmentflorida.org
http://www.environmentflorida.org
#152Pookie: How I said it was a kind of joke on psychological jargon..as all professions have..essentially he exhibits for all of his charm hidden but powerful anti social behaviors like…the list I gave..in order to control the world outside of himself (narcissitic) to make it mirror what he wants while using any and every tactic to entice people he is really doing the opposite: refflecting their veiws..people like people who do that and think that those who do if it happens in many situtions are like them…when this is true about the other: we may have a new friend or chum or aquaintance that we enoy..Does this make sense, Pookie?
NOP
Thanks for the kind words. I am working on the pic. This week has been crazy. My 12-year-old diagnosed with migraines yesterday and the dog sick today (he’s almost 15).
I am so ashamed sometimes of the catholic church. During Katrina I called and they said call Red Cross. We are not doing anything (remember when everyone was sending clothes, water, food?) This week a lady collapsed and they walked past the ambulance gurney and kept on singing and the Priest ignored it (it was in the front of the church middle aisle) and NEVER said a prayer for her or anything. My daughter had tears in her eyes. I raised my kids like my Gmom (God rest her soul) did, praying a Hail Mary at an ambulance sound, prayers at meals and nighttime. this world is a crazy place. We have to teach love and humanity to our kids.
I have to meet you. You sound so sweet. Take care and pray!
170 DancesWithPumas – YOu just made my day !!! Thank you for reposting that !!!!!!!!!!
Can you really imagine having a Joe Biden as President of the United States? He’s always been pompous and a verbal loose cannon. I think we should target him as unsuitable to run the country. Just because he’s been around forever doesn’t make him steady enough to be president.
Keep this in mind…
“Google CEO Backs Obama
Schmidt Expands Political Role by Hitting the Campaign Trail”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122446734650049199.html
It is too bad that the millions who will hear that BO is going to visit his sick grandmother will never hear what else is going on in Hawaii right now regarding his birth cert and Martin.
#169 BarbNOBO; that is very true and if you read Dr. Corsi’s book The ObamaNation, the fact he wants his past to suit his present needs is evident in Dreams From My Father, Dr. Corsi called it Myths from my father
174 TexasTigress
I was reposting #163 cspadafora’s comment to add my “tritto”. You must be ‘quattroto’. ; p
#164mick…that is the great lesson I learned from PUMA’s …verify, verify, verify. It has saved me a whole lot of embarassment as I have forwarded information before only to later find out it was bogus. Great point you make!
Murphy,
Good call on posting a retraction. It was an honest mistake. Please see my #164 post. We all need to be very careful with what we find on the Internet, especially right now.
We need to try our best to verify everything before we forward on to others. We all look foolish when we buy into bogus stories. My gut tells me that the API story is a hoax and I think we should all look at this kind of stuff with extreme caution.
My 2 cents.
180 girlsrule
Hi girlsrule! You photos have been posted in the comic relief section of the action center…
sorry I had to crop them.
http://pumapac.org/comic.html
Murphy
Think of it this way: as soon as you found out that the story was refuted, you came right out and apologized for having posted it.
How many newspapers are still running stories about “Kill Him,” even after the Secret Service said that they found no proof that it was ever said?
You are in the right. That’s how PUMAs roll.
What scares me most about #160 (my own post) is that now “someone” is going to make contributions in my name!!
136 murphy
I think I need to take the heat for that one. I picked it up from Hillbuzz and I did check the Waldorf online menus, but….
I apologize!
#160 Rosebud, you might want to call your internet service provider and have this e-mail account blocked. I would suggest changing your password immediately and assigning a complex password; then request a new account.
I just helped a friend hose e-mail account was hacked, and the hackers changed his password (actually a good thing). If someone is using your e-mail account without your knowledge you have a problem you can not ignore.
Dances: I had fun writing my psychological summary in my imaginary case file of this undiagnosed maniac not only walking the streets but being a candidate for President..I like to use some psychological jargon and some regular words…too… when I do that. Oh yes, I have done this before when I have come up against a truly sick human being who has had some possible authority over me or what I care about,esp at work! It used to give me a little mantra to think about whenever these a@@h@@@@ would act out and I would just laugh…and I would add another little component and periodioically share it with some friends ..for fun and release…That works for awhile..then it doesn’t!
l am glad you enjoyed the post!
#172 NewOrleansPuma: Yes all the answers make sense I was just teasing you but it was a lot for my brain to absorb. That is all we need a man leading our country with Hitler personality traits
185 alohapuma
It was still fun…
maybe relocate it from the flyers section to the comic relief section?
179 DancesWithPumas
174 TexasTigress
Well, I guess the quattroto of us or I’m sure hundreds more than don’t write, will agree that it was really MURPHY that made our day. Plus, it was BillieJo that reposted Murphy in bold letters so that it caught my eyes, so….thank you all for respecting and admiring such a wonderful woman as Hillary is!
“We need your bipartisan help to spoil Obama’s Kool-Aid Festival”
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/action-something-you-can-do-to-ruin-obamas-kool-aid-festival/
(The hillbuzz crew do a lot of good campaigning. Show up in Chicago or contribute to their face to face– party vs. party– Hillbuzz et al vs. Obots)
OK,GOOD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY RIGHT?
PLEASE FEEL US IN ON ALL THE GOOD/POSITIVE THINGS GOING FOR mCcAIN TODAY…
OH, ALSO FEEL US IN ON ALL THE BAD FOR OBAMA TODAY TOO…
PUMAS, I leave you today with this last thought:
I went through a legal issue that spanned 20 years of a history that culminated into this issue.
On the eve before the civil trial (I ended up having to represent myself) the opposing side started calling my home, trying to get me to “settle or else”, threatening me, etc., etc. (They had hired three separate law firms to fight little ole’ me?)
I was so tired, scared, etc., I gave in – trusting them (my opposition) to do the “right thing in the paperwork”.
Now, two years later, I am still going through the fall-out of their deception of “settle or else”.
Moral to the story: When you know YOUR TRUTH, STAND ON YOUR TRUTH!
The threat of “or else” will never go away, regardless of whether it is a batterer, crooked lawyers… the “new” Dem Party… if you do not STAND AGAINST THE “OR ELSE” WITH YOUR TRUTH – It can haunt you the rest of your life!
Vince Foster committed suicide over nothing more than the threat of “play ball… or else”. Many Republicans, including John McCain, regretted their tactics because of it, and wished Foster would have “never given up fighting for his integrity”.
Texas Tigress said: “NEVER, NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP, GIVE IN!” She is absolutely right!
YOU ARE OUR DEMOCRACY… or else…
163 cspadafora That really sux! I didn’t know that PUMA’s supported Obama and encouraged others to vote for him. Maybe you just heard another false rumor like the one about MO.
Yesterday, before I decided to vote and was contemplating not voting at all, other PUMA’s said I souldn’t discourage others, and half a dozen gave me the same old logic why I would be voting for Obama if I didn’t vote at all. And now, today, this~~saying that Hillary is a PUMA. Which is bit like saying Jesus is a Christian, isn’t it? And , of course, he isn’t.
I am in shock and will never ever get over Ms. MacKinnon’s support of BO. My heart is broken in such a way I will never recover. This woman is someone I have always respected and I have risked my life to support her work. I will never be the same person after today, and I will never stop crying…
This is the letter I wrote her, I apologize for its length but I wanted my pumas to read it. I felt like I was writing God, and she had left me…
Regarding Ms. MacKinnon’s plea that women support Senator Obama as he is the ‘way forward’ for women, I must beg to disagree. In fact, I find her post to be the single most disturbing post I have read in regards to Senator Obama and the Democratic Party’s total disenfranchisement of women and their abject relegation to third party status–directly under white and black men. As a co-founder of the student anti-pornography group SOAP (Students Organizing Against Pornography) and the student leader responsible for hosting a conference at Miami University of Ohio where Andrea Dworkin was the keynote speaker, I have met Ms. MacKinnon and heard her speak many times. She was, in fact, someone I was going to write to ask her to speak out against what the Democratic Party has done to Hillary Rodham Clinton and women in general, but I see now that she too has drunk the kool aid.
Ms. MacKinnon claims that abortion rights will be taken away if we do not support Senator Obama, that laws protecting the affirmative action laws that assist women will be overturned, and that when these two protections and/or rights are taken away women will suffer economically and thus our standing in society will fall. Her arguments are vacumn sealed in the land of unreality though, because she fails to address what Senator Obama really represents, what happened to Hillary Rodham Clinton because she was a woman, and why supporting the misogyny of both the Democratic Party led by Senator Obama might cement our position as objectified victim.
Ms. MacKinnon did not address Senator Obama’s severe ethical failings, including, but not limited to, his 20 plus year relationship with a racist church, his 20 plus year relationship with Rev. Pflegger, an avowed misognist and racist, whom he gave $100,000.00 of tax payer’s money to a few years ago, his close friendship with the Reverend Louis Farrakhan who has called for the extermination of whites and jews and has said that he considers Hitler a hero, his connection to avowed American Terrorist Mr. Ayers, or his connection to Mr. Rezko. Senator Obama appears to have as his friends and mentors racists, misogynists, and convicted felons. Furthermore, Senator Obama appears to have a very hard time keeping his word to anyone, and his track record as a politician in Chicago shows the same old thing (rich people making money off poor people). Thus, while Senator Obama may pay lip service to anyone willing to vote for him, if you look even momentarily behind the curtain you will see someone who is so ethically challenged that I find it shocking that anyone could support him, much less Ms. MacKinnon–especially based on the fact that we should look to what he has promised to do for us if elected. If you ask any good criminologist what is the best predictor of future behavior, she will tell you past behavior. In Senator Obama’s case, this should speak volumes about who and what he is and what we have to look forward to should be become President. In my opinion, if even a single woman votes for him I would consider it a personal tragedy.
Regarding Ms. MacKinnon’s failure to address what was done to Hillary Rodham Clinton, I find this as shocking as her support of Senator Obama. Senator Clinton faced overwhelming misogyny not only from the likely suspects, but also from her own party. Remind me of the last time any candidate for President was encouraged to step down for the good of the party, and I can tell you the ONLY time this has ever happened was in the case of Senator Clinton. In spite of the bias of her own party, the main stream media, and budget constraints, Senator Clinton WON the popular vote, and–while very few Americans realize this–was only 17 delegate votes away from winning it all. Had not the Democratic Party strongarmed, threatened, bought off, and harassed the delegates, Senator Clinton would have easily won the nomination. Ms. MacKinnon’s failure to address this misogyny is so sad that I do not even have words to describe it.
Finally, in the last few months we have seen what many really think about women. Sarah Palin has been the victim of misogyny ranging from verbal violence (e.g. Senator Obama supporters wearing Sarah Palin is a CUNT tee shirts) to the Terry Tate video showing her being beaten down by a large black man supporting Senator Obama. She is being told she does not have enough experience to be Vice-President, when she has more experience than Senator Obama. She is being told she is not smart enough, when no one has said the same about Senator Obama even though he forgot how many states are in the USA, did not realize that Russia can veto United Nation sanctions, or when it is clear that without reading from a script he has real problems communicating. It is clear what position women currently hold in society, and abortion rights and affirmative action aside, we have a long way to go baby. Hillary Rodham Clinton won the Democratic nomination, and it was stolen from her. Until this is addressed, I would rather be poor and celibate. I want my daughters to have more than the right to abort and make money, I want them to have the right to be President.
(On a final and most personal note, I realize that you were very close to Andrea Dworkin, but I loved her too. I think that she would be standing with me on this issue, and perhaps one day I will be able to sit down with her and discuss it.)
Impact of Colin Powell endorsement?
This is cause for concern if you look at the graph http://www.zogby.com/
#189 DancesWithPumas
Nah! I’ve got a better one coming. I’ll have to redeem myself now. LOL
I’m sure there are plenty of legitimate receipts that reflect the same point, but NEVERMIND…
187 NewOrleansPuma
I always enjoy your posts, they’re either amusing, poetic, or educational, most often they encompass all three characteristics. One way or another, your perspective always expands my world.
I have a book, strategically place sin my office:
Crazy Bosses – Spotting Them, Serving Them, and Surviving Them.
It’s always fun to spot the twitch when someone new spots it for the first time!
RE: Google CEO(also Yahoo & ??)
We who use the internet are in between the rock and the hard place. Almost all of internet is controlled by obots. Unfortunately, BOers have access to our personal info, and they have already shown us they use it to attack anyone who seems to be making progress ferreting out “dirt” on BO.
oops, author is Stanley Bing.
wontbackdown,
WE are our democracy.
WE.
#149 DancesWithPumas
THANKS DWP..we love you too for all your hard work.
#173Ruffo: The Catholic Institutional Church in America, especially is in grave danger of becoming ,if it has not already irrelevant, as a vehicle for leadership, because of many reasons…I will continue to pray…I am and have been praying my literal guts out…since Janurary…And, regarding the American Catholic Bishops and some priests …I always remeber or try too that Jesus left his Church in the hands of humans..and that includes every denomination..very tolerant and hopeful of Him, indeed….the incident you described is outrageous..given my personality I know I would have jumped out the pew and yelled at the top of my voice to him and others..what the hell are you doing? Stop and get help NOW! The story reminds me of the Pharisees and others who walked past the beggars outside the temple and ignored or the people who walked past the man injured, except for the Good Samaritin…or the Pharisees and Saducees who faulted Jesus for curing people on a Saturday…in this case..Sunday!
palin is talking about that colombiam dude murphy!
Tito The Builder
#186 fmster
OMG! Thank you for the info. I have been phished. I couldn’t even change my own account because it didn’t recoginze the password I was entering. Geez, I just bought books on Amazon. FUCKERS!!!! I am sorry, but I am MAD
did i tell u guys my computer blew up and i had to go buy a new one!!???
RLP33 – you are always so funny — I like your positive only attitude. Love your recap concept as well – I think you were over at the HRC site weren’t you —-
#198Dances: Wish I would have had that book when I was working! Maybe I will go look for it too see how many of each I have had!!!!or if Ihave identified something the author missed..just for fun. Thank you, Dances…for your thoughts. I appreciate them and you..for many reasons…too many to speak of here.
Maybe one day when you eat your poached New Orleans style Brunch…here..we can get into all of that!
#173 ruffo
Wow. That’s horrible. What Catholic Church is this? Like you, I would be outraged too if my priest did that to the poor woman. Please don’t stay silent about this, call your Bishop and report this incident.
As members of the Church, I believe that it’s our duty to applaud our good priest and identify and help the one’s that are weak. Clearly, this priest needs prayers but more importantly he needs to be reprimanded.
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This week a lady collapsed and they walked past the ambulance gurney and kept on singing and the Priest ignored it (it was in the front of the church middle aisle) and NEVER said a prayer for her or anything.
#196 fmster on 10.21.08 at 12:47 pm Impact of Colin Powell endorsement?
This is cause for concern if you look at the graph http://www.zogby.com/
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I have several opinions on Powell’s endorsement.
(1) It would have meant a lot more if it was given months ago.
(2) Most figured he would endorse BO because of him being AA.
(3) Powell, like Biden, was for most of the things BO was against – so this might not sit well with some.
(4) BO’s base would vote for BO no matter what.
(5) McCain’s base will not change.
(6) Endorsements do not really make a dif when push comes to shove. Kennedy and Kerry could not help BO beat Hillary in Mass.
“Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy Martin”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/21/whitey-tape-api-phil-berg-and-andy-martin/#more-5586
Murphy, we all wanted to believe the MO story. I would not doubt that in some way, some where it is true.
Also, thanks for defending Hillary. She is the reason that I am a puma. She will prevail. Hillary is doing what women everywhere have to do to survive. We must stick together for all of our daughters to change this, hopefully with SP in the WH, we will.
#195 jenniforhillary on 10.21.08 at 12:46 pm
Thank you so much for posting your letter to Catherine MacKinnon. I read the whole thing. It is brilliantly and eloquently written. You honored us all by sharing it with us. Thank you.
from email:
“Murphy, I just spoke to someone at the Obama office(abetter number to get through right away is312-819- 3008) after being hung up on twice. The first two women were very ignorant and would not listen to what I had to say. The third women listened and than acted like she did not know anything about the tee shirts(Sara Palin is a c—) she basically called me a liar when I told her that If she had listened to the debate she would have heard John McCain bring it up. She said she had seen the whole debate and that it was never said. The two women who hung up on me claim they knew nothing about the Terry Tate YouTube Vidio. It seems that the lying starts at the very top and goes all the way down the line. They also tried to use the scare tactic of women’s rights being in jeopardy if McCain becomes president.I am a Democrat and have been for years but after that experience i will not be voting that way this year. You need to get this out and let people know what liars these people are. Thank goodness for people like you who can see through this whole charade.”
#194 mountainsong
Huh??
208 Gogandalf
GLAD I COULD PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE… : )
YES, I WAS ON THE HILLARY SITE….
I JUST HATE WHEN THINGS GET SO DOWN. I LIKE TO FEEL THAT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, THAT WE CAN PULL THIS THROUGH,THAT OBAMA WILL GET CAUGHT (FOR SOMETHING LEGIT)
POSITIVE,POSITVE,POSITIVE!!!
ANYONE FEELING POSITIVE YET? : )
WHAT WAS THAT SATING ON HILLARY’S SITE..
YES WE CAN – YES WE WILL!!!!!
Pookie: Thanks, Pookie…yeah..all we damn well don’t need and WON’t have!!!!!
thank you brooklyn–there were a few typos and it was not my best work but my heart was beating so hard and I was typing through tears…
the feminist movement is dead, just like the DNC, and both should should start anew. Puma is like life in so many ways I cannot express my deep respect and love for this group and every member here.
Murphy, you along with every other media source in this country and others published that story. You did no wrong, and you did the right thing by stating IMMEDIATELY that it was false and you did not support such fake lies. If only the BO camp would follow your standard of excellence….
wow, has anyone seen this
Palin in ‘Sit Room’
Gov. Sarah Palin gives her very first interview to CNN. Join Wolf Blitzer in “The Situation Room.” Tonight, 6 p.m. ET
Was Hillary supporting McCain in Florida the other day? Did I miss something?
I have some relatives with NPD and it can be very devastating to the people around “THE ONE”. I think BO is a typical narcissist. Sometimes I actually worry about MO and her girls. I noticed, too that she has disappeared recently and has done so before. Maybe she has reasons she cannot talk about for being such a sour person. If BO loses, you can bet he will blame her. He will keep his eyes on the reflective pool and never look in the mirror.
#195
Who is Catherine MacKinnon?
#158 zephyr … It’s very hard to discern what’s true or not anymore from any of the media sources. And then again maybe they were paid to write the retraction…that’s what popped into my mind.
A copy of the receipt was posted on the internet and it was signed Michelle Obama. If that receipt is legit, the media’s retraction is meaningless.
#209 NewOrleansPuma
Maybe one day when you eat your poached New Orleans style Brunch…here..we can get into all of that!
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Alrighty then! I have it in writing, which equates to a binding contract~!! woo hoo!
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Murphy,
Copy and paste the “c—” t-shirt picture from the Alerts or Sexism sections of AC and send to the person who sent that email. They can forward to the lackwits who either aren’t keeping up, are in some heavy denial, or are just ignorant.
oh wait Katherine McKinnon??
If it’s the Katherine McKinnon who used to live in the Bay Area… she has enough issues of her own not to be taken seriously.
Ms. MacKinnon is a very famous law professor in Michigan and she and Andrea Dworkin wrote the anti-pornography legislation used by the Canadians to show that pornography violated their equal rights amendment in their constitution thus outlawing it because it hurt women and their equal standing as citizens of Canada. She considers herself to be a feminist. Until today, she was one of the five people in America I thought I could trust…
Rosebud and others, we should not be naive in believing one person’s email account being hacked is a random event. Because we oppose Obama being elected and we rely upon the Internet in opposing him, we are all at risk. A friend of mine (also politically active) was hacked just this past Sunday.
Also, I work in info. security and am not paranoid. IF Obama is elected, Americans will lose freedom of speech first, privacy and the right to bear arms.
Dances or Anyone,
There is a cartoon character of Sarah Palin being punched in the mouth. It’s a big hairy arm. Do you have it?
Dodd under investigation for his roll in countryside
very true fmster….I am scared…
Also, the polls scare me today regarding Powell’s endorsement….
#210:Mick:He needs more than reprimand! He needs a psychological evalutation and removal from interaction with the congregation until or unless they figure out what the hell is wrong with him…priest or not! This is abnormal behavior in or outside of a Church..and what about the congreation’s actions..or non.action ? Hey..Ruffo…check out another CatholicChurch..this place has real problems!
Might be interesting on fox news coming up (should be after commercial ) how the foreign countries/ terrorist groups are watching the election VERY CLOSELY it is on now
aloha
it’s on the M.I.L.K. blog….
you can go to the AC and select it from the “PUMAS’ Favorite Murphy Blogs”
http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
#228 fmster
Any suggestions other than the usual maintenance? Both my Youtube and Paypal have been hacked. Paypal caught it right away thank goodness. Of course I have no way to prove it was the Obots doing…just coincidence.
I went to get on here yesterday and I couldn’t it said blog flaged offensive
117 Gogandalf on 10.21.08 at 11:38 am
LILOBET – you are quite welcome – I agree with you as well – if we can get the fradulent votes thrown out – McCain will beat BO.
TEXAS TIGRESS – you betcha I have already been blogging the pay senario of his staff – men get more than women – but the obots come back and say that I am distorting my comments – it all depends on the job description that they hold
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Then the point is that McCain hires MORE women and gives them MORE IMPORTANT JOBS than Obama does. It’s all there in the same article. Best to lead with this instead of with the headlne about ‘pays more’.
If you need the cite email me. tdo@turndownobama.com
227 jenniforhillary
Okay, same McKinnon then. Gave up on her in 1992.
alohapuma: here.
http://investigatebarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/milp-small.jpg
Dances…got it thanks…
Slinking back to Adobe now.
Thanks Kat….got it!
BREAKING NEWS on Chris Dodd
FOX just reported Chris Dodd is now under investigation for his 2 Countrywide mortgage (sweetheart) loans.
(someone posted this in comment section of Noq blog.)
i was just over at riverdaughter and read the article about Rand. doesn’t suprize me because Rand has been a huge supporter of obama from the beginning and i’ve heard before that obama wants his civilian police force. he stinks of fascism.
it only took Hitler two years after he was elected to take over the government and if i recall my history class, Hitler started with the mentally challanged. the government said they could provide better care for them. you betcha they did. do you suppose that we could be hearing something like “we will take care of the elderly and provide better care”?
#139 Pookie on 10.21.08 at 12:05 pm
I probably won’t say this very intelligently but if there are any psychologists on here I am sure they have a name or condition for personalities like Bo’s, I have been around people like him (IE) they do things to get attention
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Narcissism/narcissist
Dances,
can I ask why?
#231 jenniforhillary
What on do you mean??? Are you looking at the National poll that goes up or down depending on which way the wind is blowing?
McCain is no AHEAD in Florida & Ohio….. This is great news! as of today!
Powell’s endorsement does mean sh.. No one really gives a rat’s ass about powell.
Good things happening for McCain. He is in GREAT shape. HE WILL WIN THIS ELECTION! Oblahma is UNELECTABLE. All the “Joe the Plummers” around the United States will see to it.
Now buck up….WE’VE GOT AN ELECTION TO WIN!
mountainsong–I sure hope so
#231 jenniforhillary
OOOPS meant
McCain is NOW ahead in Florida & Ohio
mimi–
LOVE YOUR NEWS…but I looked at a zogby poll posted earlier…
But I think I’m gonna stick with YOU….
PLEASE GOD LET US WIN..
Also, Murphy–I called the MINUTE I got the tate information and spent 20 minutes on the phone with the BO camp about the TATE video and the CUNT tee-shirt…they are in denial or lying big time. So, when it ended–and I had sites and all the documented data for them to go check it out and do something–they asked me for my name, number, address, etc..I said no thank you and hung up my cell phone right away.
These people are scary, and I have been saying this for over a year. They are the enemy to all that is good and right, and we must fight hard to save this country.
246 mimi1020
Agreed! We have an election to win!!
fight fight fight – pray pray pray…
As far as Obama goes…expose expose expose…
McCain08
#237 TDO – EXCELLENT advice – I will change my entire approach – this is exactly what I was requesting way up to the top of this thread – sometimes you can’t see the forest for the trees – this will be a lot easier to get across…….
Check out Cindy Sheehan’s blog, she is going for Pelosi’s seat. Also, BHO is for the draft I am sure. It suits his philosophy, that ought to fire up the Democratis Elites.
JenniferforHillary: Your letter is excellent …and I thank you for sharing it…One thing about being older as I am Jennifer is one learns that when those we trustat those important moments and periods in our lives such as your recounting of your reasons for trust of MC break our hearts, we can and do reconfigure to wisdom and knowledge regarding them and us and as well learn there are others who will come along in time to elicit trust and not just on little things but in large intellectual and personal ways like McKinnon for you and not break our hearts in that regard! You are a fine soul…Jennifer!
194 mountainsong on 10.21.08 at 12:46 pm
163 cspadafora That really sux! I didn’t know that PUMA’s supported Obama and encouraged others to vote for him.
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Huh? Anyone can call themselves a ‘PUMA’. The word isn’t trademarked. There might even be a VERY FEW people who could say sincerely that they worked for Hillary and work to reform the DNC but PERSONALLY for some reason are choosing to vote for Obama. But PUMAS as PUMAS sure are not voting for him!
As to not voting, two stayhomes equal one vote for McCain. It’s not as good, but every bit helps.
#249 Jennifer for hillary
I called yesterday and actually had a long chat about the sexism in the race towards SP and HC. I held my breath and told them that as a democrat, we can’t condone this and ect…. They thought I was an obot, and really listened to me.
Jennifer: Continued..afterthought ..Who for example could have ever imagined that PumaPac would be here?
drawing what it has drawn
to community among former strangers for the causes of truth? Not I…Yet I as you am forever grateful for the oasis of comminty working for the Truth…
Ole young Murphy: Know it or not. believe it or not..you were inspired..
that is why I continue to pray for you and us all in this good work!
“Concerned about Obama?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq9u3GRa97w
(Have you guys seen this ad by the republican jewish coalition? It has Hillary in the ad.)
245 jenniforhillary
Sure hon, but I’ll have to explain privately.
224 FoxyJara
Yes, but it could so easily have been fabricated to look like a legit receipt. It wouldn’t be difficult to superimpose MO’s signature on a fake Waldorf/Ast receipt. Whether it’s legit or not, too tempting to fall for that bait….and then have it thrown back at us to discredit legit claims against BO/MO/DNC, etc.
In this case, far better to exercise caution.
WOW…great youtube kat
greenfun–loved your photos (made my day)
dances,
I would be so interested..please email when you have time…
You know you spend too much time at PumaPac when you try to log on to your official work computer with your blog name!
262 jenniforhillary
send your email address to actioncenter@pumapac.org
Please email this to Greta Van Susteren, she is following ACORN connections: ontherecord@foxnews.com
“ACORN, SEIU, and the New Party joined at the hip in 2001″ http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/acorn-seiu-and-the-new-party-joined-at-the-hip-in-2001/
Obama’s ACORN:
http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/acorn/
wonder what wolf blitzer will be asking Sarah Palin when she’s in the Situation room at 6mp
should be interesting huh
6pm, LOLOLOLOLO
New Orleans…I am crying right now so if I don’t make any sense please forgive me but I take much solace in your words. I have to be brave enough to let go of the old when it betrays me and grasp the new.
I remember when I realized that Hillary’s blog would become OBOT land, and I was so sad it was like my best friend dying. I was scared and did not know what to do. Sandipuma emailed me and told me about this site, and it has been my home ever since.
I do not always have time to post a lot, but at night when I cannot sleep I read everything–many times more than once. I am blown away by the honesty, the truth, and the kindness of puma members.
If not for this group, I can honestly say I would not know what to do. You give me hope–real hope–that good might trump evil one day. And I love you all very much.
I still plan on hosting Hillary’s victory party….this year it will be McCain/Palin, some day maybe Hillary. A girl can hope, you know.
#201 murphy:
Thank you, Murphy. I do what I can.
My point: I fought so hard and caved at the last moment because “I believed the press”
Today I marvel and respect many of the fundamental principles of being a member of PUMA:
1) OUR VOICES MATTER
2) OUR CONTEMPT IS NOT WITHOUT INVESTIGATION
3) WE DO NOT RELY UPON A “PRESS” THAT IS NO LONGER MOTIVATED BY DOCTRINES OF TRUTH, ACCURACY AND FAIRNESS
4) STAND ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN – EVEN IF IT MEANS…
…that sometimes when you stick a stick in a hive to check out the “honey” — behind all that buzz, there’s a big ball of vicious, hate-filled bees, huh?
…some PUMAS ignore them, some swat em down, some swallow em whole…
…and some (like TexasTigress) take on the appearance of a nudist while demonstrating to their offspring their true heritage of being so gifted in track & field.
“E”
#268 jenniforhillary
ditto.
I will honest you, I really dont care if Michelle Obama had lobster, cavier, champagne or steaks, I would certainly hope she can afford that, I didnt really buy into that piece of crap info anyway, afterall, they do have a little bit of money
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Did everyone see Hannity’s part 2 on BO’s radical associations last Sunday night?
Hannity went more deeply into Ayers, Rezko, ACORN, etc.
-> If you missed it, here it is on Youtube (it’s 1-hr long, in 6 parts)
Obama & Frriends: History of Radicalism
Volume 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ha_gxO3RYY&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_81156
(It’s a good one to spread around too!)
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Just a new thought ladies and gents- either Obama is in Hawaii re: the lawsuit, or there is a scandal he is trying to distance himself from, but what if there is something he is unleashing on McCain that he wants to stay away from? Be watchful. I know they are re-running the cancer stuff on McCain but that is old news and its been 8 yrs and no cancer. Keep your eyes and ears open. He is a snake in the grass.
I know Biden is sidelined again because of his recent comments. Is he under the bus yet?
As a life long Independent I have no business trying to persaude any Democrats who are conflicted about voting for McCain, to actually vote for him. I will try my best not to cross the line here, but please consider the following:
I’ve shared your dilemma my entire adult life. I have always had to compromise some of my positions and values for others because neither the Democratic or the Republican platforms has EVER fit my political hopes and dreams.
I’m socially progressive and I am strongly pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and care very much about the poor, the disenfranchised and the disabled. But I’m also fiscally conservative, believe in smaller government with drastically less government spending. I want my country to have a strong defense and to be a world leader in promoting democracy and human rights.
I have always had to vote for the candidate who I felt had the better character, and the one who would lead this country in the proper direction. This year, for me, the choice is clear. I will vote McCain/Palin even though some of the things they believe in are anathema to me.
But you see, this is nothing new to me. I understand it is new to many Democrats. Know this–you do not compromise yourself when voting against some of your interests. You are simply acknowledging that at this point in time, you are voting for your MOST PRESSING interests.
Given the fact that Obama has stacked the deck against America so virulently with his dirty money and his dirty ACORN tricks, please remember that our very freedom is at stake here.
To every one thinking of staying home, or writing in, please reconsider. VOTE THIS YEAR AND LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. This may literally be the last free election this country ever holds.
#268Jenniforhillary – I know exactly what you mean when the HRC site was leaving and all the obots were coming on and none of our messages were getting posted – I kept trying to post this site over here and would never go through and then there was poor lonely all by herself Normita – keeping on the vigil – I felt so sorry for her as we were gone – breaks my heart thinking about it right now – at least we have found each other here – and Normitas site is good as well – so most of us have found our home.
Whether it’s legit or not, too tempting to fall for that bait….and then have it thrown back at us to discredit legit claims against BO/MO/DNC, etc
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I agree Brooklyn. But I still would like to know if Obama’s suite was 29M. A forger wouldn’t know that info.
Peace out puma,s, off to spread the flyers from our dear freddie. Have a great day and keep the faith.
Two and a half weeks ago, while putting out freddie’s flyers, I was physically assaulted and called a racist. I thought it was a small sacrifice for a greater good. And I cast my ballot for McCain and Repubs down the line except for one democrat who happened to be female.
Today, i feel insulted and defiled when I read that “Hillary Clinton is a PUMA”. While she may be the reason I’m here, and while I worked hard to see her nominated, history shows it wasn’t meant to be. I accpeted that as best I could.
But, was it two days ago? Hillary appeared in Florida by Obama’s side and encouraged us all to vote for him, telling the crowd this man is fit to lead America. I almost gagged. Hillary is an amazing woman and would have been a great President I think. But all women are amazing.
I have tried to accept that there are those here who totally revere and worship Hillary Clinton. I’m ok with that. But to call Hillary Clinton a PUMA is the same, to me, as spitting in my face.
HEY PUMA’s~ has anyone seen this baby doll that coo’s and gurbles baby sounds and in the middle of it all the doll says,
ISLAM IS THE LIGHT!
check this link out!!! i am appalled!!!
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid987453530/bctid1849025139
Tashacakes – welcome to the den – and thank you for your post – please continue posting -
Barney the bumbler thinks rich people should be taxed to recover some of the bailout bucks…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k
ps, murphy, will you be in Ohio on election night?
also i hear on fox that Chris Dodd is under Federal Investagation for getting sweetheart deals on his properties from one of the failed mortg. loaners!!!!
278 mountainsong
I have put them in sealed envelopes and am dropping them in thye mail house by house. Most people are working now, and lunch traffic is down. I too fear the obots. Yesterday a friend called me about a flyer I gave her privately. I laughed to myselh as she read it to me. She ia an obot. She liked the attachment that I added.
#284
she doesn’t know I sent it to her….
#279 SouthJerseyPUMA
Alohapuma, please see the advice I gave Rosebud above. This is likely NOT coincidental.
When you select a password, make sure you use one of at least 8 characters including numerals and special characters. I have my e-mail password set to expire every 72 hours to frustrate the hell out of any hacker.
Also, sorry but I am at work and can’t participate in this forum during work hours.
Thanks.
From Andy Martin: “Barack Obama and Andy Martin confront each other in Honolulu
Andy Martin’s investigative team provokes a “suspension” of Obama’s campaign and a desperate trip to Hawai’i by the presidential candidate
The drama builds to a Hollywood “High Noon” confrontation between good and evil”
http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/
#219 jenniforhillary
“….the feminist movement is dead, just like the DNC, and both should should start anew. Puma is like life in so many ways I cannot express my deep respect and love for this group and every member here.
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I agree on both statements.
The Feminist movement has deteriorated into an empty shell of its former self and fallen by the wayside in terms of fighting for/advocating women’s issues relevant to the 21st C. In fact, aside from its early work re: reproductive freedoms, it never lived up to its initial promise to my mind.
Where was effective action on the whole host of other issues of concern to women? Equal pay, equal opportunity, child-care for working women, the right TO KEEP your child/stay in school/collect child support from the child’s father? The right NOT to be accosted by vile, misogynistic pornographic images at every turn? When did they speak out against the whorification of today’s young women in music, advertising, print media?
They’ve done basically nothing except turn a blind eye; they’re in bed with the enemy and we all have to bear the fruits of their demonic liasons. It is not right.
I’d much rather see a concerted effort AGAINST PORNOGRAPHY, against sexism in the media, the workplace and now in presidential politics, than have them harping ad nauseum on Roe v Wade.
I’d like to see support for TRUE choice, i.e. support and respect for the decisions of young women (all women, in fact – not just the celebrities) who decide to go through with their unplanned pregnancies!
It seems the modern feminist movement only believes in ONE choice – theirs. It is not right. True choice means respect for those who chose a contrary path to yours. I don’t see any of that in the Dem Party OR the feminist movement.
They’re both useless frauds to me. They’ve outlived their relevance and lost their moorings.
I most vehemently agree we need a TRUE new feminist movement. That’s one of the good things I hope comes out of this nightmare we’re all enduring now.
And I agree with NewOrleansPumas comments @ #253:
“….One thing about being older as I am Jennifer is one learns that when those we trustat those important moments and periods in our lives such as your recounting of your reasons for trust of MC break our hearts, we can and do reconfigure to wisdom and knowledge regarding them and us and as well learn there are others who will come along in time to elicit trust and not just on little things but in large intellectual and personal ways like McKinnon for you and not break our hearts in that regard!”
Once again NewOrleans offers us wisdom, hope and courage….
Speaking of fine souls….
Good. Dodd should be invetagated. He is scum.
I know he fought hard to keep the New London Subase open and for that I give him props. But since then he has been to the base ONCE. He is to busy making deals and backing BO. I hope he loses his seat.
tashacakes–
I feel and live everything that you just said….YES!!
and mountainsong….you are PUMA and I LOVE YOU but Hillary was the original PUMA and while I do not agree with her actions I cannot help but love her. I THINK YOU ARE A BETTER PUMA THOUGH
Murphy, Freddiebrown
Check your email please….have a good laugh!
Now back to the kitchen I go and mop the floor.
#266 sistermoon3 thank you for the post I had no idea she was going on Wolf Blizters show… I don’t think it’s a good idea but I will for sure watch.. Jack C better keep his stupid mouth shut.
183 kevink on 10.21.08 at 12:38 pm Murphy
Think of it this way: as soon as you found out that the story was refuted, you came right out and apologized for having posted it.
How many newspapers are still running stories about “Kill Him,” even after the Secret Service said that they found no proof that it was ever said?
You are in the right. That’s how PUMAs roll.
Thanks for such and expedient retraction also Murphy.
I know we all want to get the latest news/information out but to take our time and verify it is so much more important to maintain our integrity as a site of truth seekers and accountability…which we are so proud of.
also if anyone wants any of the flyers to use as posts for webpages/blogs I have a program that can turn them into JPEGS that are easy to upload like any picture to the post section and when you single click on it it will open as a full page that can be read…also makes easier to email also………so let someone know what flyers would like converted and I will do that for everyone.
Billie Jo~ maybe they should start with all the ones who benefited from the deals like Franks and Dodd!!! and Gaud knows who else!!
Talk about splitting hairs~~~MSM is saying that Powell ’s endorsement may be racial but it isn’t ‘racist’. LOL They are good!
The movie and the trailer:
Hype: The Obama Effect
Brooklyn–yes to every word you have said!
I want to write a book on the death of feminism…perhaps we could work together…
And this morning has been both sad and happy. I have not had time to hang out in over 1 month because of hurricane Ike, but it was sad because the news is not always good.
however, in the end, puma saves me and I am pumped and ready to face the world, again.
KEEP THE FAITH….
Oh my goodness ! I just checked back in and saw that WBD !!!!! I can’t turn my back for a minute !!!! It was the damn BEEEEEEEEEES !!!!!!
If Berg’s position holds true, then how does Obama get removed from this candidacy? Is it automatic? What options would the DNC have at this late date if this happens?
Murphy question:
there are 18 million of us who vited for Hillary. this will make up the difference in the polls of the 6 or 7% of these older women actually who are goo-goo eyes over obama (these are not puma women of course). Are all the 18 million going to vote for mccain? How many do you estimate and can a push be made to change this and convince them otherwise? They need to know for instance that hillary write-ins, will not count.
I wonder what will happen to the money that obama has left over after the election. maybe he could put it in a stimulus packet for the unemployed! It is amazing how he has raised in total 550 million dollars. He had 225 million left AFTER the primaries, plus what he has got since. Amazing. Gee I wonder where all that money came from?
284 hillary2008 Putting flyers in peoples’ mailboxes is a violation of Federal Law.
160 rosebud
That’s an item to be sent to the FBI cyber divison for prosecution!!!!!!
Hello PUMAs,
Heading off to the Pasadena Republican Headquarters (I can hardly believe I am doing this).
Just wanted to post my to-do list status for today…
called Reebok at 781-401-5000 and left a voicemail on Dan Sarro’s line, saying…
– I am disturbed & concerned about the Terry Tate video looking as if he’s tackling Sara Palin
– I asked if Reebok has a company policy about violence against women
– I asked if Terry Tate is still being paid to represent Reebok
– I left my name, city, call back#
sent email to Hawaii governor Lingle, saying …
– Would she please help avert a national crisis by ensuring that the truth about Obama’s birth status is revealed?
– Although I am not a Hawaii resident, I have standing in that this is a national issue and is of vital concern to all citizens
regarding Obama’s small donations list – I called Obama Press Office at 312-819-3008
–I asked for the URL so I can see where all these small donations come from
–I stated that I was a Hillary voter & need to look closer at the 2 remaining candidates
–Volunteer #1 directed me to http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml
–I told him that the URL gives donations if you know the name … I want the full list of all the under $250 voters because I am concerned & astonished that nearly a billion $ can come from $5 and $10 donations
–Volunteer #1 asked me to hold while he checked, then he accidentally disconnected me
–I called back & made same request to volunteer #2
–I told her that I was a strong Hillary supporter & my orginal reasons for not voting for O. still exist, so I need this info to understand why I should vote for him
–She agreed that we Really Need to get a democrat in the white house
–I said that what we really need is a person of integrity & transparency regardless of party affiliation, and getting that list of donors would help me with the part
–She took my email address so she can get the information back to me after she finds out
regarding Obama’s position on the Terry Tate video & other violence done in his name – I made another call to Obama Press Office at 312-819-3008
–I mentioned the Tate video
–I mentioned the damage to the McCain supporter’s car and the KKK and flag burning damage
–I mentioned the woman whose sign was taken from her and who was struck in the face
–I asked when Obama would condemn this type of behavior
–I stated that his absence of condemnation tells me the kind of change he wants for America, which is not what I want for America
–I volunteer said thanks they will pass along my message … (get this) … to the strategist!
colin powell? the guy who embarassed the entire county when he lied to the united nations? the guy is a joke, just like barky.
“HEY PUMA’s~ has anyone seen this baby doll that coo’s and gurbles baby sounds and in the middle of it all the doll says, ISLAM IS THE LIGHT! check this link out!!! i am appalled!!!
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If it isn’t spoof of some sort, I don’t see anything wrong with it. I can see talking dolls with christian messages: Jesus is the Light, or Buddhist dolls saying: Ommmm, Wat Phra That Si Chom Thong, ommmmmm”.
Doesn’t seem like any big deal.
286~ Mick~ are you gonna start again? just leave me be. I dont know you but have already come not to like you!
ohh ps~
I guess thats why it was on fox news and every where else!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435164,00.html
Wow McCain is fired up today!!! Listeneing to his speech on FOX as I am doing housework. Gotta go finish. Passing out flyers later today in my town of Obots.
#304 MKfromLA
You can bet if they pass on that information to the “strategist” you’re going to see talking points coming out on all the news shows about the “violent” crazy McCain supporters. They’re not going to denouce them they’re going to make up whatever lies they can and attribute them to McCain/Palin. Guaranteed. And all the lunatics out there in TV Land will believe every word.
291 jenniforhillary Well, thank you for that, jenni. But as far as I’m concerned, calling Hillary a PUMA is like calling Benedict Arnold a great patriot. Even if I wasn’t a PUMA I wouldn’t vote for Obama or encourage others to do so. I guess it’s time to think harder about my loyalties.
#307 Southjersey
Good day! Hey, I saw those dolls on the news and heard them. It was beyond incredible. Didn’t hear WHO actually distributed them.
Different subject. I tol hubby last night that I was getting my fill of Fox because if Comgress and the whitehouse are in the majority, then under the new socialism, Fox would probably not be allowed to stay on…
#302 mountainsong
Correct. The mailbox is considered US property and only the owner of the box and the Post Master can insert or remove things from it.
It is a violation of federal law. Also, anyone who puts something in the box without the stamp, like a flyer is breaking this law.
Here is the quicker more direct link for Obama on the FEC site for his reported contributions.
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_detail/P80003338/
What the heck ever happened to Freedom of Religion?
(and, freedom FROM religion as well.)
Obama mocks the bible
http://demsmoveon.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-ex-terrorist-has-to-say-about.html
Fantastic story! One bright moment when the voter made himself heard! My commentary on this
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/joe-the-plumber-is-me/
#299 TexasTigress:
It was the perfect analogy, don’t you think?
Checking out the “honey”, underneath all the “buzz” of Obama — “honey” is actually “hate-filled” — some of our responses as compared to others?
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Murphy: Upstairs “Retraction”
It’s the exception, by far with you. We have all made that mistake.
#266 sistermoon3 thank you for the post I had no idea she was going on Wolf Blizters show… I don’t think it’s a good idea but I will for sure watch.. Jack C better keep his stupid mouth shut.
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i didnt know it either but double check me on that, it’s in the very tiny ad about the situation room with wolf blitzer, you would have to have a keen eye to even see it, and i need new glasses LOLOLOLOLOL
they sure have NOT advertised it, of course she should go on there, she has nothing to hide or obscure, if im wrong about it, then i apologize
Hi Diva2~ i miss ya!! wish you werent so far and we had more time in Denver!!
Fisher Price makes the doll~ and I know I wouldnt want my daughter or grandaughter to be told Islam is the Light! Let them spew that is Islam’s world~
and i hear ya on Fox~ they were talking about that last night on O’Reilly~ none of us saw this coming!!! it makes me sick!!
*how is it where you are? any turn about swaying for Johnny and Sarah?
Time to beat that drum again since it’s in the news.
Hillary for Obama.
She is guilty, by association, of Obama’s, Obama’s campaign’s and Obama’s supporters vileness. Sad but true. She really could have made a tremendous difference but chose to back Obama and all he represents.
#306 Dances
Yes, The dolls were/are being sold
I agree that different language dolls are fine, but in all fairness people buy products on their features and by not disclosing all that the doll does, they are not giving consumers a fair right to choose what they prefer. Haven’t heard who made them or distributed but did see and hear them and YES, they do say those things.
to grandmother’s house we go posted.
take it upstairs!
#307 SouthJerseyPUMA
I believe that the API story is bogus, like many people and I think the doll issue is silly and that’s enough to warrant your disdain for me? Whatever.
Geesh, it’s nothing personal SouthJersey.
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Mick~ are you gonna start again? just leave me be. I dont know you but have already come not to like you!
HILLARY IS AT THIS MOMENT AT A RALLY HERE IN OMAHA
and here I am at home at my computer. This is a day that should be one of my most exciting. In other circumstances, I would have “moved heaven and earth” to be at that rally.
It’s tear time… …
#298 jenniforhillary
I would love to do that….Not just the death of feminism, but also ideas, content and directions for the “rebirth of the new feminism”? It’s way overdue.
email murphy–I give her permission to give you my email…
#326 jenniforhillary
Ok, jenni. Will do.
The more I’ve research the facts and mega years of information I have come to the conclusion that it isn’t the DNC’s fault (not that I’m letting them off from their participation in the corruption) but it is Obama and his “Mob” syndicated corruption that has taken over the entire election…..and I mean “mob” in the old sense of the word….syndicated crime and politics of the Old Chicago criminal Politics of crime bosses running the show…it goes so deep and so very long and ingrained that no one can stand up unscathed to them….even Elliot Ness and J Edgar Hoover would have a hard time……….when you have money, power, crime, corruption, politics, communist philosophy, socialist ties, and extreme Radicalism tied together you get one very deadly cocktail. His white Grandfather and friends, and O-ssiah’s youth years are not innocent in the formation of who Obama really is. There is plenty of contributions and blame to go around…….let’s just say that his parents, grandparents, and family weren’t as “mainstream” American as he would like people to believe……it is way too much to be discussed in detail here …..no I’m not saying that they were bad people just different philosophies from the “average” American…but always far Left.
#326 jenniforhillary
I also give Murphy permission to give you my email address. Email her also for mine if you’d like.
#278 mountainsong – I always read you posts and follow your frame of thought whenever I can.
I smiled and did a mental high 5 to you when you bit the bullet and voted for the right guy.
When I read about Hillary’s speech in Florida a few days ago, I couldn’t believe it. It was such an eye opener, that she was able to put aside her personal feelings about her former opponent to embrace the
party. Even tho she has amazing qualities about her, she knows which side her bread is buttered.
Its really pointless to be dissappointed in what others say or do because we will be forever dissappointed. Just like whoever said that Hillary is a Puma. That is how the person feels. It is right for her and we should let it be and move on. We don’t always say what is right for others but sometimes we say what is right for us for that moment.
I guess I am trying to make you feel better by not letting others cause you dissappointment. Just understand that they do what they think is right and perhaps we won’t take things they do too much to heart. The same goes vice versa – people could be dissappointed at how we are, they just have to accept it and move on.
Don’t let people dissappoint you. You will be happier.
It is possible.
I am giving you another high 5 – I think you ROCK and you don’t even know it.
Good afternoon my PUMA family!! I have been lurking for a little while ( got my internet back recently) and I wanted to say some things regarding Hillary. I became a PUMA from the very beginning, and although I am not very active here due to work reasons( a full time and a part-time job) if I have to become a PUMA, I will do it millions of times without regretting it, and with the sme heart and mind that made me become part of this huge family. I still remember the hope, the anguish we all felt those days when Hillary was still campaigning, and I wonder where is MY Hillary now. I love her, and I will love her, but I still do not understand when women are going to say ENOUGH and step forward no matter what happens. When a woman says ENOUGH, millions of women will join them, and millions of MEN will too.
I understand Hillary’s position, you bet I do, but there are limits. I am surrounded by Obama supporters here at work, and yet, I fight like hell to defend my position, no matter what, I even have friends who can not understand why I am not voting democrats this year ’cause I have always done it, but I have accepted my responsibility and I have sticked to my mind no matter if in the meantime I lose some “friends”
I know that Hillary is a TRUE DEMOCRAT, but it breaks my heart when I see her asking people in Florida to support Obama. Politics sucks, I know that, and pardon my French, but I am very upset to see how due to our love for Hillary we are not allowed to criticize those aspects we don’t agree with. Do I want Hillary as president? YES I DO !! Do I admire Hillary? YES I DO!! Do I respect her? YES I DO!! Do I agree with what she is doing for that imbecile? NO, I DON’T !! and that does not make me excluded from my PUMA family, and that does not speak less for my love and respect for her.
This is a decisive moment in history, many people can see Hillary’s support as a signal that she really thinks he is the best candidate to become president, and she is sending the wrong message to those who are not secure of their political convictions!!!
Am I upset at Hillary? No, I am not, but again, I would have preferred to see her fight like the old days for what she believes in, a real DNC, not the piece of human heces that the party has become. Am I angry? Yes, and very angry!! Do I want to vote this year? No, I don’t, but I will write John McCain even if it goes against my principles, because I do not want another grain of sand that will contribute to the destruction of this great country ! So I think I am entitled to say that Hillary could have done differently!!!! No matter what happens, I am and I will be a PUMA, my heart hasn’t changed a bit !!!!
i just wanted to add my perspective. i love hillary too but she lost me when she suspended her nomination and didn’t stand up to dean and the rest and demand a fair and open democratic roll call at the convention. to me, if she can’t stand up to the dnc how can she stand up to putin?
229Aloha
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/12/the-obama-campaign-role-models-patterned-violence/trackback/
What a HORRIBLE SAD PLACE they have made for this Great country:
MEDIA: can’t believe them
Newspapers: Can’t believe
Try telling the TRUTH, can’t be done easily.
See a birth certificate: can’t see it
Get a STRAIGHT ANSWER: Can’t get it, more rhetoric
GET A STRAIGH ANSWER: You loose your job, and most likely your reputation.
I can cite many many examples Murphy: I BELIEVE IT, the only doubt I see is the HOTEL, I believe they Bought and spent the money—–WHY——— 1/2 Billion dollars LATER and For WHAT?????? OBAMA !!!!
TYPO ALERT:
LOSE:, STRAIGHT
About the Powell Bump that Oblabla got;
Maybe McCain should counter with Bolton and Wolfowitz!
And about “Brian’s article” on the post-election emergency: note that it is a copy of SOMEONE ELSE’S COMMENT POSTED on American Thinker — Raf, from Florida, an ex-military CENCOM planner.
HILLARY SUPPORTERS: GOVERNOR PALIN IS VIABLE!
As a woman who strongly supported Senator Hillary Clinton, I have to ask my fellow Hillary supporters; why be loyal to a party which chose to disenfranchise us? I, like many of you, campaigned hard on behalf of Senator Clinton in several states. I remember pleading her case, our case, about America having the ability to nominate a smart, strong, viable female candidate who could ultimately shatter the highest and hardest of ceilings. Women from across the nation – Democrats, Republicans and Independents all rallied around that plea.
When I was in Denver for the Democratic National Convention, we celebrated the 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage. That was the night of Hillary’s speech. It was bittersweet for me as I spoke with CNN. I was convinced then that we, as women and a country would not be afforded another opportunity, another viable female candidate for a very long time. Enter Governor Sarah Palin!
Wow! She can hunt down the bacon, bring it home, and then fry it up in a pan, and never let you forget that she is a woman! Feminine, tough, smart, and very capable. Governor Palin is a wife, daughter, sister, CEO, CFO, and COO. And, oh yeah a hockey mom! Let’s face it, it will take a “pit bull with lipstick” to defeat the sexism and misogyny that still permeates society today.
Abigail Adams frequently wrote letters to her husband John while he was convincing Congress to declare independence. On March 31, 1776, she wrote: “-If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies, we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation.”
The more people like Nancy Pelosi and the leaders of the Democratic Party call for “unity,” the more distance I want to create between us. Remember the way Senator Clinton was treated and betrayed by her own, by our own party. Remember how party leaders engaged in and turned a blind eye to the vicious sexist attacks made toward Senator Clinton. Remember how they worked vigorously to defeat our efforts and silence our voices. Then ask yourself if you want to reward this kind of behavior. Now, we should not be complicit to the same attacks toward Governor Palin.
Others may engage in blind, irrational loyalty. I, however, will not! There is so much consequence that will emerge from this election. We must not behave as though we are suffering from battered wife syndrome, sounding the alarm, then to simply make up. There will be no honeymoon faze with this gal! Women, we must say no! No way, no how, hell no! Dignity and Country first!
Maya Angelou wrote “History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again. If you don’t like something, change it. If you can’t change it, change your attitude.”
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