I’m a Democrat, and I’m NOT Voting for Obama

This is an educational thread. Thousands read our site every day and many are still trying to figure out what the heck our angle is. Democrats canvassing in Ohio and Pennsylvania, as well as other swing states like Nevada and Virginia, need our help informing people WHY so many Democrats are opposed to Obama. If you are a Democrat, or Democratic-leaning Independent, please tell us in comments WHY you are not voting for That One.

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#1 Beca4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 8:20 am

Numero 1! :)

#2 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 8:22 am

Oh poop!

#3 NewOrleansPuma on 10.20.08 at 8:22 am

Good morning, Murphy and all..I will do as you ask later on today. I have to leave shortly for an appointment.
Good idea for today…

#4 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 8:23 am

Murphy, what about all of us non-leaning, non-democrat independents?

#5 Beca4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 8:26 am

Not voting for “that one” because he is a fraud, liar, unethical, and stole the nomination from the most qualified candidate, Hillary R. Clinton. He erase the US flag from his precious airplane, did not wear the US flag pin at the beggining, sat in that hateful church for 20 years, bad friends, no expirience, votes present in the senate, he is a flip flopper, he is stuck up, I do not like the way he walks, he thinks he is all that SHIT!, supports his radical cousin, he lies about his faith, and above all, he plays the race card and denies it. He is openning wounds among Americans!

#6 caribbeanpuma on 10.20.08 at 8:27 am

GOOD MORNING PUMAS.

#7 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 8:28 am

How I believe McCain is going to win, is Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
The people of Penn. share no values with Obama, why would they vote for him?

#8 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 8:29 am

?? No form. No below. No capice. ??

#9 NoMoreInFL on 10.20.08 at 8:30 am

Morning PUMAS!! :)

I will be leaving in a few to work at the event that #61 will be holding in Orlando. Please pray that #61 will make a statement that will make the crowd start to doubt voting for him. I will and I need others to knock on heaven’s door.

Yesterday, I worked at the McCain office here calling voters that requested absentee ballots. I found #61 voter fraud in the calls I made. Called a number that went to a restaurant that was voting for #61 but did not request a AB. Then after 5 more calls to the same place instead of just marking “wrong #”, I became a true PUMA that was going to get to the truth. The truth…there was a “voter registration” held there for #61.

Then I spoke with a long-time Republican and had called their house for other “wrong #’s” already and he had hung up…this tired PUMA did not catch on but when I called again…I said, “Wait don’t hang up” and we talked at length. He was scared that people were using their phone number to get AB and wondered who they could be.

I always thought, until yesterday, that the voter fraud that ACORN did was limited to signing up only Dems. but instead they have used other “means” to steal the election. Can’t tell you how many calls went to businesses…the same senerio. My head was spinning!

PUMAS, please if any of you can go down and call for a couple of hours the AB list and see if this is the same in your state. I will report it and if it is the same (asking a few questions gets the truth out)…we need to report it.

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

Can someone repost this for me during the day and evening since I will be gone until late tonight. Thanks!

#10 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 8:30 am

#4 Kempion

For Gods sake, take a stand.

#11 BigCatLover on 10.20.08 at 8:31 am

#685 vadaryl

I’m surprised that you are falling for the media spin. Believe me the public is watching and listening quietly about Ayers. It is one more chink in the BO armor. Drip, drip, drip it is coming out. I would have preferred that all his questionable background came out at once so it could not be dismissed bit by bit, but that didn’t happen. Keep pounding on everything old and new. Time is running out.

#12 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 8:31 am

Oops. :oops: Text instruction changed.

#13 caribbeanpuma on 10.20.08 at 8:32 am

Things are getting rough because the Obamanites are scare. They are discovering that they might lose.
Please be extra careful .

#14 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 8:32 am

#10 bodi1313

When I do, I get pounced on by PUMAs… no less. LOL

#15 NoMoreInFL on 10.20.08 at 8:32 am

Murphy, you do know that the creator of the picture for #61 uses subliminal strokes in his work? Doesn’t work on PUMAS!!

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#16 AMPD unaffiliated on 10.20.08 at 8:34 am

Following are some of the reasons that I will NOT be voting for Obama on November 4th. Presented in no particular order:

“… when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
association and dealings with Tony Rezko
associations and dealings with William Ayers
“Dreams From My Father” who really wrote it?
associations and dealings with ACORN and its subsidiaries
daughters, as well as sons, should be required to register with selective service
disrespect for women (especially incredulous since he’s raising two!)
obvious disdain for regular people (see “Joe the Plumber”)
arrogant spending habits (wasting campaign money on self-indulgent lobsters, caviar and champagne… c’mon!)
the seemingly cult-like nature of his followers and the fervent manner in which they show their “support”
No one he knows is the same person he knows…?! “That’s not the [insert name here] I know …”
issues regarding the sources of his campaign contributions
seriously, what ARE the odds?? (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/16820/?ck=1)
condones labelling anyone speaking out against him as racist

#17 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 8:34 am

The “U” in PUMA stands for United. While there may be unity in purpose, there are like 50 million names for the short bus folks who support Obama. Could we come up with ONE term, please?

#18 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 8:34 am

#9 NoMoreInFL on 10.20.08 at 8:30 am//
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RICO food! Notify FBI, etc., IMMEDIATELY with specific info. HURRY!

#19 utahpuma on 10.20.08 at 8:38 am

I am not voting for Obama because of everything that BeccaforHillary said in #5, plus he has not proven he is a natural born U.S.Citizen and therefore qualified to be President, plus his wife has made comments about her first time being proud of this country, plus he uses people to his benefit and then throws them under the bus, plus has used the AA’s to divide this country. And as I think of more, I’ll add them.

#20 utahpuma on 10.20.08 at 8:39 am

Oh, yeah, and he has Socialist views that will destroy this country, like spreading the wealth.

#21 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 8:40 am

Kempion;
The “stand” is against subversion by a decades-old cabal of ultra-elitists, not against the Thin Red Line trying to hold it back. IOW, get with the program. There’s no more time to dick around.
The true meaning of PUMA is “Party Unity My Ass”. Sorry to disillusion you.

#22 NoMoreInFL on 10.20.08 at 8:41 am

This Independent puts Country first before party or race! Any Independent, especially a PUMA, that has learned the truth about #61 must make sure their vote is counted and that does not mean throwing it away on a third party and surely NO Independent would ever vote for #61 once they know the truth.

As they say, “The truth will set one free!” Thanks Murphy and all PUMAS for sharing the truth and now we can spread it like wildfire across our great nation! :)

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

Off to get ready for work…

#23 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 8:43 am

Judicial Watch Uncovers Documents Detailing Suspicious Illinois State Senate Earmarks by Barack Obama
Obama Supported Pet Projects for Wife’s Cousin and Political Supporters
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois State Senate. The documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Among the projects detailed in the documents uncovered by Judicial Watch:

Blue Gargoyle: Barack Obama helped secure a $25,000 grant for the Blue Gargoyle in August 2000, an organization that was headed by Capers C. Funnye, Jr., Michelle Obama’s first cousin once removed.
Garden to Nowhere: Judicial Watch uncovered evidence of a $100,000 grant obtained by Obama for a garden project in Englewood, Illinois, spearheaded by Obama’s former campaign volunteer Kenny Smith. The “Englewood Botanical Garden” project never happened. In fact, according to the Chicago Sun Times, “today the garden site is a mess of weeds, chunks of concrete and garbage.” State records show that $65,000 of the grant money obtained by Obama went directly to Smith’s wife Karen. Smith also wrote an additional $20,000 check to a construction company owned by Karen D. Smith, K.D. Contractors which is no longer in business.
Community of St. Sabina: In July, 2000, Obama helped secure a $100,000 grant for the Community of St. Sabina, a church headed by Father Michael Pfleger, a controversial and radical Catholic priest and Obama campaign contributor. Pfleger made news in March, 2008, for mocking then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ, formerly run by Obama’s personal pastor the Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
FORUM: Run by Yesse Yehudah, Barack Obama gave a $75,000 grant to the organization in 2000. Although Yehudah ran against Obama in a 1998 election, five people from FORUM donated $1000 to Obama’s campaign after receiving the grant. FORUM also contributed another $5,000 to help pay Obama’s debt after failing to be elected to congress in 2000. In 2002, the State sued Yehudah for failure to account for hundreds of thousands of dollars he received from Obama’s grant.
“Barack Obama’s earmark for his wife’s cousin, Rabbi Funnye, raises ethical questions. Some of these earmarks show that Barack Obama may have abused his office in the Illinois State Senate,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

In addition to documents regarding Obama’s state senate earmarks, Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama’s controversial relationships with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Antoin “Tony” Rezko. To access all Obama-related documents uncovered by Judicial Watch, visit http://www.judicialwatch.org.

#24 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 8:43 am

I am NOT voting for B. Hussein because he hates the U.S. Flag, the Star Spangled Banner, the U.S. Constitution, and he supports anti-American theology and anti- American terrorists.

Also, this picture has “always” caused immediate revulsion to me!!

#25 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 8:45 am

The above documentation, shows how Barak will continue to use American tax dollars, Barak has set records in asking for earmarks in the senate while
John McCain has never asked for any, get it Ameirca, please get it!

#26 PumaDuma on 10.20.08 at 8:45 am

****In case We didn’t Know****

PROJECT VOTE is the “THUG ARM” of ACORN..

http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/acornproject-vote-obama-huh/

#27 kids1627 on 10.20.08 at 8:46 am

The reasons I am not voting for OBama

1. Dwight,Nick, Kenize my son and his two children
2. Dawn, Alan,Chase, Cole, Cain, katie my daughter and son-in-lawand their four children.
When I am long gone from this world my children and grandchildren will need a safe secure place to live and I know if Obama gets in they will not have the freedom I grew up with we need our freedom back that is what has been taken from us .

#28 NoMoreInFL on 10.20.08 at 8:48 am

#18 BrianH I am drafting a letter that will be sent to the FL Governor, FL AG, FL SOS, FBI, Homeland Security, the President and McCain and press that may address it.

I have to leave for work in a few so I will finish it tonight. Brian can you and other PUMAS rewrite my post and see if there are other PUMAS that have found out the same? We need to volunteer…took only a couple of hours to find this out! Can’t be only here…has to be in all swing states.

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#29 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 8:51 am

I’m not voting for Obama for his tax policies and proximity to Rev. Wright (Farrakhan).

I am reposting this:
October 16th, 2008 12:52 PM Eastern
Why This Election Will Be Close: Hushed Confessions

In recent weeks I have spent a good amount of time crisscrossing the country.

Something very unusual is taking place.

From Seattle to San Diego, from Burlington, Vermont to New York City, from New Orleans to Texas and Midwest towns like Cleveland, I am hearing hushed admissions of a terrible sin: “Father, I’m not going to vote for Obama.”

Then I look at the polls. Nationally and in battleground States, Senator Obama is thrashing Senator McCain.

So what gives?

Pollsters would tell me it’s all very simple. Anecdotal evidence, like my experience on the road, isn’t really evidence at all. It is not trustworthy because it is not scientific. The divergence between what people are telling me and the polling data must be that I run in closed circles. People of like minds talk to me; the others don’t.

Very logical…unless…unless people don’t want their neighbors (or pollsters) to know they aren’t voting for Obama.

So, are we talking here about the “Bradley Effect”, that well-documented racist phenomenon of people telling pollsters one thing and then doing the opposite in the voting booth simply because the candidate is black?

No. I am referring to something else — the fear of talking to pollsters, or to your neighbor, or to anyone else about not wanting to vote for Barack Obama because of what he stands for.

Do you have doubts? How would you like to get up in front of a crowded theater in a mixed neighborhood and say you are going to vote for McCain? What respectable person wants to risk being considered a racist or a war monger or a fan of President Bush or an enemy of change? Many good people would like to see a black man as our president, or even a Democrat to be our president, but don’t want Barack Obama.

Yes, this race is different in a way that defies the scientific nature of polls. Do you remember the hushed admissions? Why do people feel obliged to speak quietly? Will these people agree to talk to a pollster? I don’t think so. I wouldn’t.

Eight years ago in 2000 and four years ago in 2004 my parents’ Ohio neighborhood was filled with political yard signs. For every two “Gore” or “Kerry” signs there were at least two “Bush” signs. And there were many, many signs, I assure you. Not so today. When I asked local McCain workers in Summit County the reason, they answered quickly: we go to the doors, people wink at us in approval, and then refuse to allow us to place a sign in their yard. A significant number of voters may prefer McCain, but don’t want to show their disapproval of Obama.

What will this mean on November 4th? I don’t know for sure. I do think the election will be closer than the polls suggest.

And I think it all has much more to do with Obama, the candidate, and his plans to “spread the wealth,” nominate very liberal federal judges and bow to Planned Parenthood, than with his ethnicity.

What say you?

God bless,

Father Jonathan

Father Jonathan Morris is author of the new book, “The Promise: God’s Purpose and Plan for when Life Hurts.” For more information click here.

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#30 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 8:55 am

#21 BrianH

I ahve no idea what you are on about. (???)

I take stands as I deem necessary.

#31 Rabblerouser on 10.20.08 at 8:57 am

Good Morning, all.

To answer the above question:

First, I am a Democratic-leaning Independent. While I have in the distant past voted Republic on one occasion, my views are more consistent with the Democratic platform. That’s why I voted for Hillary in the primaries.

The reason I am not voting for Obama this year is this:

In 2000, the American public watched passively in silence as the republicans stole the election. They did this right in front of us and no one said a thing. This year, as I watched the primary – and now this election – unfold, I see the Democrats doing the same thing. They stole the nomination from Hillary and installed BO as the nominee. By refusing to hold a fair and open roll call at the Dem Convention, the DNC violated one of the fundamental rights of Americans.

I have watched as Obama himself and those who surround him continually violate what I consider to be fundament principals of democracy – especially freedom of speech. He violated this freedom in using the courts to block certain unflattering TV ads done by 527 pacs. It seems that the Democrats are all for freedom of speech and thought – indeed, they insist they are champions of intellectual freedom. However, whenever anyone disagrees with their views, that person is scorned, revivaled as reactionary – and if you dare to say that you aren’t going to vote for Obama then you are labelled a racist.

Obama blatantly lied to the American people when he said he only had a superficial involvement in ACORN, when it is a FACT that his involvement is much greater and has occurred for a longer period of time that he admits too. ACORN has admitted that it supports Obama and the Democrats, so it is not non-partisan. The voter registration fraud they’ve perpetrated has now come to light – another indisputable fact. It is clear from these dubious activities that the Democrats are attempting to steal the election this time.

The democrats have stood by and their silence has made them a party to the shameless sexism that I thought we conquered in the sixties. There are disgusting videos of violence, tinged with pornography levelled at Sarah Palin, even mocking her and her “retarded” child. It’s one thing not to agree with someone’s political policies, but that doesn’t give them the right to denegrate her in such a vile fashion. If the republicans or their supporters circulated videos on the internet depicting Obama being lynched, there would be such outrage and the FBI would be all over whoever put it out. Yet the democrats stand by and titter complicitly as videos about raping Sarah Palin circulate.

We should be outraged whenever the fundamental principles of democracy are violated, NO MATTER WHAT PARTY DOES IT. We should have been outraged in 2000 when the republicans stole that election and we should be equally outraged this year as the Democrats try to steal the election, continually suppress and intimidate free thought and speech by charges of racism and use of the courts to silence speech that is not consistent with the party line.

For these reasons I am not voting for Obama this year. Sorry to be the messenger of bad news, but this year folks, it’s the Democrats who are the bad guys…

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#33 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 8:57 am

I just received an email from a friend concerning SNOPES. The email says that anything on Obama will turn out as FALSE and that we should do our own research and not rely on them. Don’t the majority of us do that anyways? I questioned an article about B. Hussein yesterday that was from a Snopes question.

#34 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 8:58 am

#14 Kempion
Sorry.

#35 bythelake on 10.20.08 at 8:59 am

I’m a registered democrat and…

I’M NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA!

First, Barack Obama has no experience. Show me one thing he’s done and I’ll show you ten things he hasn’t.

Barack Obama’s ties to people like REV. WRIGHT and Bill Ayers shows he lacks good judgment of character.

My mother always said you can judge a person by the company they keep. Well, I would NEVER sit 20 years in a church that spewed HATE! I would NEVER work with a known terrorist. But, Obama did and when brought to the national light he “split” like a log. That just doesn’t work for me.

I don’t believe for one minute that Barack Obama can be trusted. Look at all the flip-flopping he did during this campaign. He changed his postitions on key issues so many times that even his supporters fled from him.

Then there’s Barack Obama’s wife. The wife MO who, for the first time in her life is proud of her country?
What kind of statement is that?

Well, she’ll never be my first lady. I have no respect for her or her husband whom the National Democratic Party tried shoving down my throat. Thank God I have acid reflux and up they came!

So the chosen one is harpooning in millions of dollars. Where’s the money coming from BO? Across the really big pond? Show us BO. What do you have to hide?

Let’s talk about ACORN. Don’t tell me that Barack Obama isn’t spreading his wealth around this organization.

Does Barack Obama really think we’re all stupid?

Look at my state, Ohio. I’m outraged at Jennifer Brunner for NOT performing her job as our elected Secretary of State. Jennifer, YOU NEED TO STEP DOWN! And remember, I’m a democrat Jennifer!

Barack Obama has tried to buy this election since day one. If you can’t play fair, don’t play at all. I can see right through his empty suit. Watch his eyes. You can tell when he’s lying which is quite often. He looks down or away, a liar will never look you in the eye.

Let’s talk about Joe the Plumber. Look at what Barack Obama has done to him because Joe who is just like me wanted to ask a simple tax question. Barack denounced him. He said this is the guy McCain represents? The drunk media attacked Joe. Oh, shame on Barack Obama and the biased in the tank news media for Barack Obama because there are more of “US” like Joe who will remember this attack on voting day.

I will cast my vote for country over party! I will be voting McCain/Palin 2008.

#36 Headclunker on 10.20.08 at 9:03 am

No BO! – Why I Will Not Vote BO!

Enmeshed In Acorn Voter Fraud Registration During Presidential Campaign And Voter Fraud And Intimidation During Primary Campaign.

Foreign And Fraudulent Campaign Contributions And Misrepresentation Of Sources. Will Not Release Information On “Small Donors”.

Excessive Expenditures For Media, Polling And Telecommunications.

Media Bias And Misogyny.

Excessive Race Baiting And Exploitation. Reversed Position On Racism As A Campaign Issue.

Telecommunication Polling Bias. Online Polling Fraud.

Stages Events With Free Entertainment And Transportation.

Frequently Reverses And Significantly Changes Position On The Issues.

Rhetoric Is Not Backed Up With Any Substance On How Promises Will Be Fulfilled.

Past Affiliation With Graft, Corruption And Extreme Leftism.

Has Not Been Honest About Religious Upbringing Or Relationship With Hate Church.

Cannot Demonstrate Citizenship.

Has Not Been Honest About Academic Achievements And Will Not Release College Transcripts.

#37 Hillgirl on 10.20.08 at 9:03 am

Good morning everyone,
I have a flyer I would like to post, but I am having trouble finding a good photo of Obama for the background. I know there have been some on this site but I cannot seem to find them. The flyer says:
HIS HISTORY . . . .(Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright, ACORN, )
. . .IS OUR FUTURE.
So if anyone can point me to a good source for photos, I can submit the flyer to the action site.
Thanks, everyone,

#38 slyt2 on 10.20.08 at 9:06 am

good morning Puma’s , The reason i am not voting for Obama began in the primaries. When deciding who to vote for like everyone else I listened to both Hillary and Barack and the more I listened the more I realized Obama really didn’t have any answers just said change and hope and we need to fix things but never said how and when he did it was during debates when he “copied off Hillary’s answers”.The more I listened the less I liked and went with Hillary, after Hillary suspended her campaign I was left with now what. So I started listening to McCain and Obama and i still didn’t like what Obama was saying and his lack of experience and the lies and flip flops together with his “unsavory friends” I just knew this man was not for our country and if anything he had proven more to me he was unelectable even more so after the primaries. I knew I couldn’t vote for him during primaries and he hadn’t made himself look any better after he looked worse he hadn’t changed in my opinion only changed his mind depending on what audience he was speaking too. So that is why i am not voting for Obama.

#39 slyt2 on 10.20.08 at 9:07 am

Oh sorry and I am a life long democrat who will be voting republican for the first time in my life..

#40 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 9:09 am

Bodi, its cool. :)

I just ahd no idea what you meant. I guess being a non-leaning, non-democrat independent may make me seem uncommitted. I am, in fact, opposed to a great many things. The hardest part of being down the middle as I am is determining what I am FOR.

I despise communism and its cross-dressing brother called socialism. I despise government as it has become. I hate the whole idea of a central bank running everything. I don’t like democrats, republicans or partisans of any stripe except those few who are Ameican partisans. As you can see, I broadly disagree with such an enormous volume of status quo, it has become very difficult to figure out what is truly deserving of my attention.

So, no hard feelings or anything goofy like that. I understand the confusion.

#41 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:10 am

#11 BigCatLover I am not falling for the media spin. They have spun out of control anyways. I have this feeling based on talking to people over the weekend. I have talked to people who support both canidates. What I am hearing is that was then this is now. I don’t agree with them, it shows his character but they are looking beyond that. What these people where looking are the party issues not the person. If I was voting that way I would have to vote for Obama but I am looking at their characters also and there is no way I can vote for him with that thrown in. I don’t care for Mccain’s health care and that is important to me but I can overlook that.

#42 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 9:11 am

I am not voting for Obama b/c I do not trust him, he has proven himself to be a liar. Not just about political lies but about his inability to follow through when he gives his word. He has no words to convince me he can be trusted. I do not trust him, I will never vote for him.
Every day I ask WHO IS BARRY OBAMA???

#43 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 9:11 am

Obama: I Would Make Powell an Adviser in My Administration
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said this yesterday here in Fayetteville, NC
home of the 82nd Airborne, Pope Air Force Base, Fort
Bragg, now let me tell you folks something
this endorsement of Colin Powell, was not accidental
it was preplanned, time of release and perfect timing
for Colin Powell to be on Meet the Press

With one flick of the hand, a strong military leader that had served under 2 republican Presidents, for the first time in his life, voted for the most left Senator in the congress, put down a Governor of Alaska for not having the proper experience, whom is in charge of Alaska’s National Guard, and whom did go to Kuwait to check on what equipment they had while they are deployed there. While Obama had yet to even visit Afghanistan
while serving on the committee totally dedicated to Afghanistan. When he finally went, it was at the call from Senator McCain. Remember the say nothing speech in Germany? Im a citizen of the world. Well, guess what Colin and Barak, we dont want a citizen of the world for President, we want an American Citizen.

#44 Henerietta on 10.20.08 at 9:11 am

My dislike of Obama started in the primaries. He seemed to use a lot of air time to say nothing. He seemed to be all style and no substance when compared to any of the other candidates in either party. He seemed to be running for president for running’s sake.

As the election progressed, I started looking into this man. I found that he had many suspect associations with socialist or marxist leaning people. I found that his associations with Black Liberation Theologists like Rev. Wright were the rule, not the exception. At some point, I not only could not support him, but decided to strenuously oppose him.

As more and more information comes out about this man, I have decided that he isn’t really a democrat. He is a socialist running under the democratic banner. I have concluded that he is very, very, very dangerous.

He is dangerous because he has no real experience in foreign affairs. That is made worse by his ideology that would have him meet unconditionally with unsavory and dangerous heads of state who have openly prayed for our demise. His inexperience would leave us vulnerable, his ideology could allow the actual take over of the country by unsavory elements. Having him in charge of the most powerful military in the world is, in my view, foolish. Obama is a major national security risk even in the senate. He could lead us into tremendous military conflict if allowed to be head of state.

On the ecomonic front, Obama has no credentials at all. He does not have a complete understanding of how the markets work, how the mortgage crisis happened, or how to fix it. He is full of rhetoric but little understanding. As a real estate appraiser, I find this frightening.

Obama appears to have cheated in the caucuses, bussing in out of state voters in Iowa to vote in that caucus. Texas was a sham, according to observers and voters there. The recent ACORN fraud is telling of what he did in the primaries. He appears to think it is acceptable to gain office by any means, even cheating and fraud. This is not someone we need to have running our country.

There are a multitude of other reasons, too many to list here. This candidate is the most frightening thing to happen to our country in my lifetime. I am determined to try to stop him from succeeding. I will spread the word to anyone that will listen that this is a dangerous man.

#45 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 9:13 am

Is DWP on yet?

#46 1 Lucky Lady on 10.20.08 at 9:15 am

Alternatively….

could members write to them and let them know the tape will raise BIG questions, may make difference in voters if they release it now….API that is. I will post the link.

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/

EVERYTHING NEGATIVE HELPS!!!!! NO BACKING DOWN ON AYERS….PEOPLE DO CARE, THEY DO CARE!

#47 prplvette85 on 10.20.08 at 9:18 am

I will not vote for oicangetawaywithanythingiwant because my vision for America and his are not the same.
I don’t believe in an America that preselects a candiate, and not hold all the people accountable. I won’t vote for a person who allows the sexist treatment of women, other than his wife to go on without publicly speaking out against such actions. I will not vote for a candidate who knowingly gives money, and lots of it to a group that commits voter fraud. I will not vote for a candidate that knowingly allows voter intimidation at all levels, and spews racism, the very thing he accuses others of. I will never vote for a candiate that disenfranchises voters, when it benefits him, then turns around and counts their votes, only after he steals the nomination.
I will never vote for him who is arrogant, a liar, a thief, a sexist, a socialist. There is so many reasons, it would take me all day to list them.
NOOBAMA EVER

#48 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:18 am

Will that be 10:00 tonight east cost time? I think they is a 6 hr difference

#49 murphy on 10.20.08 at 9:21 am

prplevette #47 — that’s pretty comprehensive right there. I like this line esp:

I will never vote for a candiate that disenfranchises voters, when it benefits him, then turns around and counts their votes, only after he steals the nomination.

oh, and this one too:
I don’t believe in an America that preselects a candiate, and not hold all the people accountable. I won’t vote for a person who allows the sexist treatment of women, other than his wife to go on without publicly speaking out against such actions. I will not vote for a candidate who knowingly gives money, and lots of it to a group that commits voter fraud.

#50 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 9:23 am

Nobama Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MADZnsIkpdQ&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_354822

Excellent!

#51 murphy on 10.20.08 at 9:23 am

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democrat Barack Obama’s lead over Republican John McCain in the presidential race has dropped to 3 points, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Obama leads McCain by 48 to 45 percent among likely U.S. voters, down 1 percentage point from Saturday. The four-day tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points.

Pollster John Zogby said the numbers were good news for McCain, and probably reflected a bump following his appearance in the third and final presidential debate on Wednesday.

“For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened,” Zogby said.

He said the Arizona senator appeared to have solidified his support with the Republican base — where 9 out of 10 voters now back him — and was also gaining ground among the independents who may play a decisive role in the November 4 election.

Obama’s lead among independent voters dropped to 8 points on Sunday from 16 points a day earlier.

OBAMA’S LEAD AMONG INDEPENDENTS DROPPED 8 POINTS, FROM 16% TO 8% IN ONE DAY. HALVED IN ONE DAY.

holy smokes.

link: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49G0V320081019

Comments NEEDED over there. be sure to drop the link http://www.blog.pumapac.org in to comments so readers can come over here and find out WHY so many Democrats have fled Obama.

#52 Hillgirl on 10.20.08 at 9:26 am

I am not voting for Obama because in assessing the qualifications of an individual running for the highest and most powerful office in the land, I look at patterns of behavior throughout that person’s life. These patterns of behavior tell us more about the individual than their words. A primary example is George W. Bush. His history told us of a pattern of repeated failures and self-destructive behavior in every business and some personal venture of his life. Voters did not heed that message and here we are today. In Obama’s life, he has had continual associations, and therefore abided by ideologies, that express hatefulness and violence towards our country. He also has a consistent pattern of not standing strong on issues of importance and belief in his political career. Additionally, he has a history of engaging in underhanded, sleazy political dealings in Chicago and then in the primary elections. Finally, his supporters, who reflect the candidate, express simultaneously unrealistic adoration towards him and the most hateful and threatening verbiage towards his opponents. This brings his judgment and leadership skills into critical question. Obama has done nothing to discourage the thuggery of his campaign, and thrives on the adoration. All of this together, to me, is a sneak preview of an Obama presidency which frankly is frightening to me.
That is why I will not vote for him.

#53 Kempion on 10.20.08 at 9:27 am

… and the voter fraud scandal widens

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,440764,00.html

#54 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:27 am

Based on what API just posted I don’t think we will hear this tape today. It’s just getting harder and harder to wait for the shoe to drop.

#55 tatepuma on 10.20.08 at 9:28 am

I am not voting for Senator Obama because he does not have the qualifications to lead this nation. His charater is questionable, he lacks integrity and trust is not in his agenda. His policies,in my opinion,will not move us forward as a nation and his knowledge of national security will not keep us safe.

#56 indy on 10.20.08 at 9:31 am

I am not supporting Barack Obama for the following reasons:

1. Lack of experience: Obama’s record in the Illinois state senate was unremarkable. His voting over 100 times “present” not only shows his lack of a backbone on a stance but kowtowing to “business as usual” in the political arena. I know, I know, the Illinois politicians say that’s how it works there, but voting present is just a coward’s way out of making a difficult decision. Obama spent just 143 days in the US Senate before announcing his run for POTUS. His time in the Senate is unremarkable just as in the state senate. Also, the Annenberg Challenge which he chaired was a failure. I understand that some senators are annoyed because after months and sometimes years working hard to craft a Bill, Obama comes in at the last minute and wants to add his name to the Bill. As Chairman of a Foreign Relations subcommittee, Obama has not held one hearing or meeting. When asked by a reporter, Obama’s reply was “I’m too busy campaigning for President.” Is that what we pay him to do in Washington?

2. Questionable Relationships: Obama’s relationship to REZKO (known in Illinois as The Fixer and as Obama has called him many times as his Political Godfather). The Obama/Rezko relationship is more than Obama writing 5 letters for him as he has stated. Their friendship, yes, friendship (Obama had also called him many times his “friend”)goes back 20 years. Rezko was an Obama major fundraiser. Rezko had ll slum buildings in Obama’s state senate district at the time. One building didn’t have heat in the dead of winter (due to non-payment of an elec. bill)but Rezko still contributed money then to Obama’s campaign. Nice. And Obama took it. Nice. Rezko introduced Obama to nice people also, i.e., Auchi (Iraqi arms dealer to Saddam Hussein), Alsammarae two Iraqis with big money. Rezko borrowed $3.5 million from Auchi a month before he and Obama bought the mansion and lot. Obama had a “note-taker” at Rezko’s trial daily, for 3 months (confirmed by Obama and the note-taker to reporters). Why would Obama have a note-taker at Rezko’s trial? Hmmmmm. There’s more about Rezko, but let’s move on. AYERS. The Obama and Ayers relationship goes back to the 1980′s and possibly to the early 80′s. Obama is very concerned about this coming out because he has tried to stop ads showing their connection by filing a lawsuit for those ads to stop. Thou doth protest too much. Ayers appointed Obama as Chairman to school iniative group which was an arm of Ayers group. Ayers would hire a guy(Obama), he does not know, who is few years out of law school, with a thin resume, to Chair a group responsible for dispensing millions of dollars for school iniatives? By the way, it was confirmed yesterday, that Obama and Ayers during this time, 1995-1998, shared the same address and worked in the same building. Wasn’t that at the same time as Dreams of My Father was written. Some say that Ayers may have been the ghost writer. (Obama, as Editor of the Harvard Law Review was the first editor never to write and publish an article during his tenure). At Occidental College, Obama joined the SDS(Students for a Democratic Society). Ayers had belonged to the SDS and created the off-shoot Weatherman (Weather Underground). Obama holds his first fundraiser in 1995 in Ayres home. (Even though Obama said “That’s a lie,” during the third debate, it is true. Confirmed by Alice Palmer and Dr. Quinton Young, just last month to CNN. Also last week, Gibbs and Axelrod confirmed this, too). They serve on the Woods Fund handing out millions in grants, one to Obama’s boss Alison Davis for $1 million (Obama should have abstained from voting as another member did. Obama voted). Also to Rashid Khalidi, formerly tied to the PLO, a Palestinian sympathizer and good friend to Obama and Michelle. Obama moved into Ayers neighborhood. When questioned of the Ayers ties Obama says their kids go to school together. Ayers kids are grown ups(30, 27, 26). Obama says he was only 8 when Ayers bombed the Pentagon and wreaked havoc on America as head of the Weather Underground. How old was Obama in the 1980s, in 1995, in 2001 when Ayers said in the NYT that he wished he had bombed more, in 2005 when he moved into Ayers neighborhood? While Obama was at Columbia his closest friends were Pakistanis. They are still his friends. They are in his campaign as “bundlers.” Obama went to Pakistan with one when he was 20 and may have used an Indonesian passport. His host there was Soomro, interim President of Pakistan. (There is a lawsuit filed in US Court to determine this and whether he is really a native born American. Why is Obama afraid to furnish the Court with his Certificate of Live Birth?). What about al Mansour who went around asking for donations to send Obama to Harvard. This was confirmed by Mr. Sutton whom al Mansour approached for money. Mr. al Mansour is a muslim, tied to the Saudi Royal Family, who on tape tells his people “what to do with white people.” Then there is Raihd Odinga. Obama’s cousin as Odinga confirmed. It has been reported that Obama gave Odinga help in running his campaign in Kenya and it was reported that Obama campaigned for him in 2006. I saw an email from Obama to Odinga. The email eminated from Obama’s US Senate office. A big no, no. Against the law. Do you notice a pattern here of who Obama’s friends are? Even Valerie Jarrett who helps run Obama’s campaign and is Michelle’s boss at Univ of Chicago, is Iranian born. There’s more but let’s move on.

3. Obama’s (now legendary) flip-flopping: FISA bill, NAFTA, Public Campaign Financing, Town Meetings, Cuba embargo, Jerusalem, Iranian threat, gun control, the death penalty, Iraq timeline, off-shore drilling, tapping the US oil reserves, his Russia/Georgia position, etc.

4. Truth Squads, ACORN (affiliation and $800,000 donation by Obama to an affiliate, ACORN has many affiliates, this one however is at the same address), Obama’s denials/twisting/spinning/untruths of Known Facts, belonging to a church for 20 years and listening to racist/sexist sermons, Obama’s “blind trust,” almost a billion dollars requested in earmarks (i.e., Michelle’s employer, energy companies, etc.), Obama the second highest recipient in donations from Fannie Mae. Obama telling his supporters to “get in our faces.”

I could go on but these are just some of the many reasons I will not be voting for Obama and I must assure you as somebody who has voted for black candidates many times, it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. It is rather the lack of content in his character.

#57 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 9:32 am

I’ll call this one “That’s the Night the Lights Went Out in
(no not Georgia) the White House”
~~~~~~~~~~
In a magazine interview Obama and his wife Michelle revealed that one of their steadfast house rules is not giving Christmas or birthday presents to Malia, 10, and Sasha, seven.

He also doesn’t celebrate his children Birthdays…He will only buy them a pet if he is elected.
These are signs that he has a little Muslim still left in him, because Muslims do not celebrate with gifts.

From this I get that if Obama is elected president that during Christmas there will be no Christmas tree at the White House and it will be dark! This goes right down the line of being a far left liberal because they have been trying to get rid of Christmas for sometime now.

Americans, do we really want a person like this as president?
Check out this http://thekrays.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/no-birthday-or-christmas-presents-for-obama-kids/

More:

What does Christmas mean to Muslims?

In the Muslim world, Christmas is not celebrated publicly, except in the minority Christian communities in the Middle East. And in North Africa not at all. To a Western Christian living there, the absence of the usual sights, sounds, and practices of Christmas, which are such a part of our culture, is most striking–and can even be depressing. Go out into the streets and stores, but you will see no Christmas trees or decorations. Go into the homes on Christmas day, but you will not have a Christmas dinner or listen to the reading of the Christmas story, unless you are in the home of one of the few Christians. Turn on TV or radio, but you will find no Christmas programs and few if any signs that it is Christmas. There is no “Christmas Spirit” at all!
It is not that Muslims are ignorant of Christmas. Their understanding of it often leaves something to be desired, however. In North Africa, for example, it is commonly viewed as a “European” holiday. Based on what they have observed, to many it represents a big party, with feasting, drinking (and getting drunk), and similar behaviour–very much like the pagan festival it started out to be back in ancient Rome. SOURCE

#58 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 9:33 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#1) Barack Obama is NOT a New Kind of Politician

Barack Obama is a product of the corrupt Chicago political machine. He did nothing to reform it: http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/26/AR2007022600720_2.html

Barack Obama has the most liberal voting record of any other United States Senator: http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Obama had his first political mentor Alice Palmer, thrown off the ballot in Illinois in order to take her place in the Illinois State Senate. It was Alice Palmer who introduced Obama to the domestic terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/29/23433/5727
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html

Michelle Obama was appointed vice president at the University Of Chicago hospitals in 2005. In 2006, Obama requested that the University of Chicago receive $1 Million to support its construction of the new hospital pavilion: http://obamaearmarks.com/2008/09/09/university-of-chicago-medical-center/

Citizens Against Government Waste say that Obama has an 18% rating, McCain is rated 88%. Senator Biden is rated the worst with 0%: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/citizens_against_government_waste_obama_isnt_the_worst_senator_on_waste_bid/

While Obama talks a lot about “crossing the aisle”. His actual record in this regard is very meager: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/15/records-show-mccain-more-bipartisan/

Barack Obama criticized Hillary Clinton for her financial ties to Wal-Mart, while conveniently failing to mention his own wife’s ties to Wal-Mart: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551441/Obama-called-hypocrite-for-wife

Obama voted “Present” 129 times as a State Senator to avoid taking a stand on controversial votes: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/679446,CST-NWS-obama04.article

Obama claimed credit for sponsoring legislation that was actually given to him by his mentor Illinois Senate President Emil Jones. Obama repaid Jones with $300 million of earmarks for Illinois, including tens of millions of dollars of earmarks for pet projects in Emil Jones district: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/23/224059/069

Obama claimed to “press the wrong button” six different times when confronted about controversial votes in the Illinois State Senate: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,1,7079399.story

Obama implied he was poor and grew up on food stamps; Obama grew up mostly with his grandparents, who were upper middle-class bankers in Hawaii. Food stamps weren’t available in Hawaii until the seventies: http://sweetness-light.com/archive/when-was-obamas-mom-on-food-stamps

Obama threw his grandmother who raised him under the bus, comparing her attitudes to Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s racism and later calling her a “typical white person”: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/14/obama_and_the_race_card_1.html

Obama removed his name from the ballot in the Michigan Democratic Primary when early polling showed he would lose by a wide margin: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/9/211753/2995

In 2007, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama signed a pledge to not campaign in Florida. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) was punishing Florida for moving the Primary to January 29. Obama broke his pledge and ran ads in Florida: http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080123/NEWS/801230668/-1/RSS01

#59 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 9:34 am

#26
PUMADUMA:

Project Vote is a front group for ACORN; ACORN is a front group for (sleeping) NEW PARTY. It’s all the same thing! They share the same addresses and the same people started and are a part of all the same things.(People should really look into New Party; ACORN/ Project Vote; and marxism, and…really try to learn and understand the infiltration.)

The community organizers and union heads, authoritarian leftists; radical educators, radical religious leaders (with the help of terrible billionaires and powerful enemies of the USA) have almost entirely taken over the democratic party to overthrow our government and push marxist socialism, and God knows what else.

#60 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 9:35 am

@#58:
Why do ACORN, Project VOTE and The NEW Party share the same address?

88 Third Avenue, Third Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11217

ACORN: The invitation listed the committee’s address as 88 Third Avenue, which may be familiar to some as the address for the community group ACORN. The contact on the invitation was Kara Hood, an ACORN political organizer. http://tinyurl.com/4hodkn
———–

Project Vote
88 Third Avenue, Third Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11217
US
Domain Name: PROJECTVOTE.ORG
http://tinyurl.com/3l7jh2
——-

The New Party is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer. Women and people of color are strongly encouraged to apply.
To apply: Send resume, five references, and a letter of interest to: New Party, 88 Third Avenue, Ste 313, Brooklyn, NY 11217. If possible, please also e-mail letter and resume to newparty@newparty.org.
88 Third Avenue, Suite 313
Brooklyn, NY 11217
email: newparty@igc.org
phone: 1-800-200-1294
© 1997, The New Party
http://tinyurl.com/4hm4d9

#61 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:35 am

I think I have this right, Norwegian time is 6 hours ahead of us (NY East Cost time) so that means in a few minutes we will have an update. Am I right?

#62 nhforhillary on 10.20.08 at 9:35 am

Why I won’t vote for Obama

ACORN-I still believe in America and our right to free and fair elections. I don’t support caucus fraud, voter fraud and denial.

Washington spin / Race Card politics
Colin Powell, how can you claim that the “negative ads” made you change your mind? Obama has spent more money on negative ads than McCain??? Does this mean that McCain has failed to run enough negative ads? Remember,

You ENDORSED the Iraq war, and where did that get us? Remember how you promised everyone we would find the weapons of mass destruction?

Colin Powell, it’s more likely you looked in the mirror one day and had a “transistional moment”.

Or is it that Obama “bought” you with a promise of job security?

Change
Obama votes 100% with Reid, 97% with his Pelosi led party, that leaves room for a 3% chance of change and if anything happens to Joe Biden, that Nancy Pelosi will end up running this country! Kiss energy independence good bye! We’re already kissing our economy and jobs away with this Democratic Congress. We’re definitely not better off now than we were two years ago…the result of “empty promises” made just to get elected.

John McCain votes 88% with his party. Sarah Palin is our “insurance policy” that we’ll finally have an energy independence act and “security” from Pelosi running this country into the ground.

#63 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 9:36 am

they try to get rid of xmas, but at the same time try to fix all muslims hollydays and petitions into the american calenderar

#64 tashacakes on 10.20.08 at 9:37 am

Left Leaning Independent here–a left leaning Independent who hated Bush and thought he was the worst President in history, by the way. I will not vote for Obama because I believe in Freedom of Speech, the US Constitution, and elections free from fraud.

Mr. Obama has shown time and time again that he will silence his critics by any means available, hence he does not believe in free speech.

He refuses to produce a Certificate of Live Birth to the court in which he is being sued for proof. Hence he thinks he is above the law and the Constitution, which clearly states that a president must be a natural born citizen. Why would Obama refuse to submit simple documentation? Now that I mention it, why won’t he show us his college records? His medical records? His senate records? WHAT IS THIS MAN HIDING?

He supports, promotes and has actively worked for ACORN’s Project Vote- the thug army of voter fraud perpertrators.

He has collected massive amounts of campaign money supposedly from “grassroots” supporters yet refuses to identify those donors, unlike the McCain campaign that lists every single donor. Meanwhile documented cases of illegal foreign Obama campaign contributions have been brought to light. WHO IS FINANCING HIS MASSIVE EFFORT TO BUY THIS ELECTION?

He has made statements in the past– some that are now buried, scrubbed and removed from many archives–that espouse revolutionary upheaval of our countries most honored traditions and institutions.

He and his rabid supporters are tearing this country apart with orchestrated, racially tinged and concentrated hate against anyone who opposes his leftist/Marxist political philosophy.

Barack Obama is an inexperienced man who lies, cheats, and steals the most precious commodity we own as a nation–our sacred right to free and fair elections.

John McCain is a war hero who suffered greatly for his country. A man with vision and experience. A man who will keep this country safe, who will keep our economy from collapsing. John McCain will not lead us down the road to Marxist/socialist totalitarianism.

Beware what happened to Joe the Plumber. Beware what happened to Jessica Hughes from Lufkin, when an Obama supporter called Jessica at random and asked her to support Obama. Jessica said no, in no uncertain terms, and got a retaliatory visit from the Secret Service.

Most of all beware an Obama presidency backed by a Democratic Congress led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. A Congress that will not have enough opposing votes to halt a comlete coup d’etat of this country’s governing structure.

I’m voting for John McCain and AGAINST Barack Obama because this just might be the last free election we ever have.

#65 shasta2001 on 10.20.08 at 9:37 am

I don’t believe it, all of the Obama signs are gone from my neighborhood??? Must have been the partiers from the TampaBayRays win last night sweeping through St. Petersburg. My son will think I took his sign but maybe not. I am sure he can’t picture a 55 year old woman going through the neighborhood stealing signs.

#66 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 9:37 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#2) Obama as “Messiah”???

Obama as Messiah???

Obama’s followers often compare him to Jesus Christ. MSNBC reporter Chris Matthews said he gets a thrill running up his leg when he hears him speak. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhnynk6XkkU

Many Obama supporters say Jesus was a community organizer just like Obama was: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/09/14/bash-giuliani-brokaw-brandishes-jesus-community-organizer-pilate-g

Here young children sing the praises of their Dear Leader Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GExiNDBoifs

Here young men, dressed in military fatigues, praise Obama as if he is a demi-god: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE
Here Louis Farrakhan calls Barack Obama “the Messiah”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

This hero worship is disturbing and chilling: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obama_as_liberal_messiah.html

#67 jenniforhillary on 10.20.08 at 9:37 am

I will never vote for NOBAMA because as a descendant of jews it would be a sin against my family to vote for someone who considers Louis Farrakhan a friend and a hero.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because as a descendant of jews it would be a sin against my family to vote for someone who considers Reverend Wright a friend, a mentor, and a hero.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because as a descendant of jews it would be a sin against GOD to vote for someone who attended Trinity Church for 20 years.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because as a woman it would be a sin against my mother to vote for someone who counts Rev. Plfegger as a friend and a mentor.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because as a friend to blacks it would belittle the civil rights movement to vote for a racist.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because as a white person it would be a vote against myself.

I will never vote for NOBAMA as a woman because it would be a vote against myself.

I will never vote for NOBAMA as an American because in addition to being a vote against myself it would diminish the HISTORY of this country and the many lives that have been lost–and are currently on the line–to make this country the greates country in the world.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because that vote would condone the worst undemocratic behavior in the history of the USA perpetrated by the DEMONAZIS, and assisted by the Main Stream Media, against Hillary Rodham Clinton, her family, Democrats, and Americans.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because he represents the worst in everything, he is true evil, and he must be defeated.

I will never vote for NOBAMA because I am a proud, smart, caring American. And I will never forget that Hillary Rodham Clinton won the presidency this year. What we are doing now is just trying to defeat the devil that stole it from her and save this country.

#68 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:38 am

I used this to figure out the time:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?month=10&day=20&year=2008&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=179&p2=187

#69 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 9:38 am

Here:

wiki: Anarchism and Marxism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_Marxism

****

NEW youtube video released last night: Ayers talks about how he is a marxist/ anarchist only a few years ago. Just watch the whole thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xBlTdsnOh8

#70 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 9:41 am

#31 Rabblerouser

Thank you.

#71 utahpuma on 10.20.08 at 9:41 am

Another reason I am not voting for Obama is because I believe those big Ears are actually hiding his horns!!

Off to work.

#72 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 9:41 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#3) Barack Obama Has Been Less Than Honest With the American Public

Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. repeatedly refused to provide any responses to citizens on the issues through the 2008 Political Courage Test when asked to do so by national leaders of the political parties, prominent members of the media, Project Vote Smart President Richard Kimball, and Project Vote Smart staff: http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=9490

Obama claimed, in front of a Jewish audience, that his uncle liberated Auschwitz. American troops did not liberate Auschwitz, the Soviets did:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/27/whoa-now-thats-a-gaffe/

Obama claimed he was born due to 1965 Selma marches; Obama was born in 1961: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/5/201426/5656

Obama claimed the Kennedy family funded a program that brought his father over from Kenya. His father came to the United States in 1959 and the Kennedys did not fund his trip: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/obamas_camelot_connection.html

Obama has implied that his father was a poor goat-herder. In fact, Obama’s father was the privileged son of wealthy landowners: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?perpage=20&threadid=427861

After promising to fund his campaign with only public financing, Barack Obama went back on his pledge because he found he could raise huge amounts of money on his own and exceed the public campaign finance limits: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/06/obama_reneges_on_public_financ.html

Obama has suggested that people who don’t support him are racists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcfeToczFnM

#73 slyt2 on 10.20.08 at 9:42 am

#54 vadaryl what have you heard lately, the lastest i had heard was they were deciding who to give it to (what network)?

#74 murphy on 10.20.08 at 9:43 am

utahpuma! bad puma!

;-)

Have a great day!

#75 tatepuma on 10.20.08 at 9:43 am

Shasta—there aren’t any Obama signs here in my community in the Tampa Bay area, could be that I am in a HOA and they are not allowed but I did see one Mc/Palin yard sign. See Mc/Palin signs as I drive through neighborhoods. I am cancelling my subcription to the St. Pete Times and will renew with Tampa Tribune.

#76 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:44 am

#70 api just updated their story:

API will reach out with important update to the readers at 16.00 hours Norwegian time. We have been through a lot of pressure after we published the story. The fact that some people want us to take decisions hurriedly does not help us much.

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/update-api-will-come-with-more-information-on-michelle-obama-tapes-at-1600-hours-norwegian-time/

#77 Seattlegirl on 10.20.08 at 9:44 am

I also am not voting for Obama. I am an independent who votes for Democrats about 75% of the time. I had a very negative gut reaction to BO early on and it has only intensified. Here are some of my many reasons. He is not experienced enough to be President he has never run anything, pretty talking is not a qualification in my book. You can’t believe anything he says because he changes his position whenever he feels like it. He used and encouraged very sexist treatment of Hillary and then didn’t miss a beat transferring that treatment on to Palin, clearly he has a problem with qualified women running for office. He has a sense of entitlement about him witness the way he demands Hillary’s support and effort. The MSM blindly worship him and I don’t think much of them. He has long associations with hate filled power grubbing men. His followers are rude, in your face, even threaten and carry out violence against people with different views. He does not respect our American Democratic process and has done anything to get power including intimidating or buying super delegates and packing caucuses with people from other states. I could go on but have to go to work now.

#78 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 9:44 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#4) Barack Obama Lacks Experience

Obama spent 143 days in the Senate before he started running for President: http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/rnr/841195538.html

Obama has never authored a piece of major legislation.

Obama has no executive experience. He has never run a business or done a pay roll etc..
He himself has admitted that he does not have the experience to be the President of the United States: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM&feature=related

His running mate Senator Biden charged that Obama lacked the experience to be President: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lknTPvH1wSg

Without a teleprompter Obama is hesitant and confused: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

Here is Obama claiming he’s visited 57 States: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

#79 jenniforhillary on 10.20.08 at 9:45 am

Murphy,

I called for 4 hours yesterday…..I think we can win this thing….we just need to push HARD for four days…

Are we going to do a prowl regarding the tate video?

jennifer

#80 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 9:45 am

I am not a democrat, but am a republican. This is THE most dangerous time in world history right now. This is the first time that we have nations with nuclear (or almost nuclear) capability who have clear intentions of wiping both America and Israel off the map. Put that together with a world economy that is teetering on the edge of a depression. It doesn’t matter during this dangerous time whether you are democrat, republican, or independent. It MUST be “country first” or America is doomed.

Why is it so vital that Obama NOT get POTUS during this volatile time in world history?

- he associates with terrorists and anti-americans. If it were just one or two it could be explained. However, he has more terrorist and anti-american friends than he does “regular folks”. He is even married to one!
- As Qaddafi (sp?) and Farrakahn (sp?) have stated so loudly, he is a muslim who will side with the muslims against America. While not all muslims are terrorists, most terrorists are muslim extremists.
-he is using “reverse affirmative action” against us by claiming all who are against him to be racist.
- he is using the old “chicago machine” of corrrupt politics and taking it to a dirty extreme even Mayor Daley never used: i.e. ACORN, using vicious attacks on anyone and anything that speaks against him. He can’t win an election honestly, so he uses fraud, lies, vicious attacks, and stealing votes to do it!
-he is the more socialist that the “socialist” member of congress right now!
- he uses his own set of laws and has no regard of U.S. laws. One example for this is how he tries to take away our freedom of speech by muzzling any radio, tv station, or person, who does or says anything he doesn’t want them to do or say. Only ONE example of many is when he went after his local radio station for interviewing someone who he didn’t want them to interview. Another example is when he went to other countries and tried to make agreements with them, even though he had no authority to do so.
-His foreign policy during this dangerous time would put American at huge risk.
- The ONLY experience he has is as a “community organizer” … which is a “coverup” for his REAL experience: illegally getting fraudulent votes for elections with ACORN.

These are but a few of the many reasons this man is not only unsuited to be POTUS, but extremely dangerous if he succeeds. … and why I am NOT VOTING FOR HIM.

#81 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:46 am

That could be in 15 minutes if they are 6 hours ahead of NY time

#82 nhforhillary on 10.20.08 at 9:47 am

Why I won’t vote for Obama

Equal pay for women

Obama pays women less than men
(77-83cents per dollar)

McCain pay women equal or slightly more than men (1.00 – 1.04)

Obama has less women than men on his campaign staff.

McCain has significantly more women on his campaign staff than Obama

McCain isn’t against equal pay, but Obama is, his actions speak to women

#83 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 9:47 am

I am very pro-Iraq, pro-OIF. I have followed the Military and Reconstruction work in detail for years, and have unbounded admiration for the soldiers and their work. I think Obama is not just bone-head ignorant about the situation, but is actively working to subvert what is turning into a strategic victory of enduring and global significance. Petraeus’ Surge was a brilliant success, adapted and built upon the Best Practices of certain battalion commanders (Lt. Cols and Cols, mainly) over the 2004-6 period. All despite the virulently subversive mouthings of Pelosi, Reid, and now Obama. His now-documented attempt to undermine and delay SOFA to benefit his candidacy was a blatent violation of the unfortunately-never-enforced Logan act, like Pelosi’s kiss-up to Assad.

As a recent Hot Air commenter said,
“Plumbers for McCain.
Toilets for Obama.”

#84 sazzylady on 10.20.08 at 9:47 am

I will not vote for Obama because I LOVE THE U.S.A. !

#85 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 9:49 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#5) Barack Obama’s Alliances are Highly Questionable

His wife Michelle charged that America was a mean country and said that for the first time in her adult lifetime she is proud of her country because of her husband’s campaign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYY73RO_egw

His long time friend and mentor is Rev. Jeremiah Wright formerly the Pastor Trinity Church who said instead of God bless America, we should say God damn America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo

Obama claimed he never heard anti-American, anti-White speeches at his church; his own autobiography indicates he did and as he later admitted under pressure: http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-i-never-heard-wright-say-bad-things

Obama is a friend of Father Michael Phleger a radical Catholic priest who has honored Louis Farrakhan at his Church: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWigzBClEk8&feature=related

Barack Obama is a friend of former members of the radical Weather Underground terrorist organization William Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn. They were responsible for several bombings between 1970 and 1974 the Pentagon, the Capitol and a police station in San Francisco. Ayers is quoted in the New York Times on September 11, 2001 as saying “I don’t regret setting bombs…I feel we didn’t do enough.” Ayers helped Obama launch his Illinois State Senate career, held a fund raiser for him and the two served on the board of the Woods Fund together : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g

Obama helped to organize the Million Man March in 1995 sponsored by the racist and anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/wright-obama-helped-organize-march-with.html

Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support Obama for President: http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/farrakhan_support/2008/01/17/65177.html

Obama has had a long and close association with the radical group ACORN which has been tied to voter fraud in several states and the sub-prime mortgage crisis:

Tony Rezko is a convicted criminal and long time friend and fund-raiser for Obama. Rezko was indicted last fall on federal charges that accuse him of demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business. Obama claimed Rezko donated only $50,000 to him. Later, under pressure, he revealed Rezko raised more than twice that amount and also sat on his fundraising committee. When asked about his friend, Obama said, “I’ve never done any favors for him.” But evidence proved Obama had written letters to city and state officials praising Rezko’s business practices. Obama helped steer 14 million tax dollars to him: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/425305,CST-NWS-obama13.article

Tony Rezko helped to buy Obama’s house: http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article

His running mate Joe Biden has the third most liberal voting record in the Senate. He dropped out of the race for the Presidency in 1988 after he admitted to plagiarism in law school and in some of his speeches: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/joe_bidens_plagiarism_problem.html

Barack Obama is the cousin and supporter of Raila Odinga, a radical Kenyan socialist: http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/obama-supports-kenyan-islamist-raila-odinga/

#86 indy on 10.20.08 at 9:50 am

In Norway it is 1549 so in 11 minutes it will be 1600 hours.

#87 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:51 am

Let’s hope for the best and they give us some good news and not more delays.

#88 tatepuma on 10.20.08 at 9:51 am

vadaryl—has MO denied making the phone call to API?

#89 mijabsnji on 10.20.08 at 9:51 am

I will not vote for Obama for many reasons : He is untrust worthy, hides his past, lies, flip flops,Treated Hillary terribly and the list go’s on and on as most of you know. I will be casting my vote for John McCain.

#90 ontherocks on 10.20.08 at 9:52 am

I am not voting for BO because I love my family.
And he has an EGO bigger than North America.

#91 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:52 am

Have not heard a word coming out of the Obama camp on this one.

#92 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 9:52 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#6) Barack Obama’s Policies Would Hurt the Economy

Obama wants to raise taxes to “spread the wealth around”.

Obama’s tax policy that would take the nation back to the effective marginal tax rates of the Carter days. He has called for increases in payroll, capital gains, dividends and death taxes. He claims to only want to raise taxes on the wealthy, but this could have a devastating effect on new investment and small businesses: http://www.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121391937825890363.html

Obama would increase government spending by possibly one trillion dollars in four years: http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/2/14/obamas-trillion-dollar-spending-plan.html

Senator Obama voted against his own economic package. Sen. Wayne Allard (R-CO) Acombed through Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) many campaign promises and compiled a list of 188 new spending proposals that he then packaged together and offered as an amendment to the Fiscal 2009 budget plan. Allard calculated that for the 111 proposals for which cost estimated were possible, Obama’s promises would cost the American taxpayer $300 billion per year and $1.4 trillion over five years. Allard released a floor statement highlighting the size of this spending package, including:

The $300 billion is more than the $294 billion the U.S. spent on imported oil last year.
Obama’s current tax raise proposal would cover only $225 billion over 5 years … far short of the $1.4 trillion in spending.

To finance just the first year of $300 billion in spending, Congress would have to raise taxes on the top 1% of tax payers by 57%.

Obama voted against his own platform and the measure was defeated 97-0.
http://blog.heritage.org/2008/03/14/obama-votes-against-his-own-platform/

Obama proposes nothing new in terms of an economic plan. It’s just the old-fashioned solutions proposed by liberals for years –tax, spend and regulate that lead to economic stagnation.: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MGYxYWM4NjkxMjUwMzBhZDAwNTg2NjZmYmU5MWU2ZmQ=
http://blog.heritage.org/2008/03/14/obama-votes-against-his-own-platform/

Franklin Raines is one of Senator Obama’s advisors on economic issues. Raines was the head of Fannie Mae which has now collapsed. Under Raines Fannie Mae committed extensive financial fraud. Raines made 25 million dollars. Now taxpayers are stuck with the bill: http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/obama-housing-adviser-franklin-raines-perpetrated-an-enron-like-accounting-scandal-as-chief-executive-officer-of-fannie-mae/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/09/obamas_fannie_mae_connection.html

Jim Johnson, former Fannie Mae CEO was a top advisor, chosen to vet potential vice presidential nominees. In 1998, Fannie Mae’s earnings were manipulated, which resulted in “maximum payouts” to executives including Johnson who earned $1.9 Million when he otherwise would not have earned a bonus. Johnson received special loans from Countrywide Financial CEO Angelo Mozilo. Property records show Mr. Johnson has received more than $7 Million in loans from Countrywide since 1998, the first coming in the waning days of his Fannie Mae tenure. Johnson also received fees and compensation from Fannie Mae worth $3.3 Million between 2001 and 2006. He resigned, but he’s now back on Obama’s campaign : http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/JimJohnson.htm

#93 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:53 am

ABC news and the Huffingtonpost last week said this group is a fake.

#94 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 9:54 am

I have written Hannity several times asking him to look into this but have not heard a word from him on this. I have not heard any talking head mention this story.

#95 GoHillaryGo on 10.20.08 at 9:55 am

written by OBAMA SUCKLED ON TERROR, October 20, 2008

TO THE BRAVEHEART BRIGADE:
“Sue your Sec. of State–a plan of attack by millions of private AMERICAN citizens
written by David Archbold, October 17, 2008
http://www.davidnotary.biz/complaint_template.doc
The attached filed/web link is the template created from the WA state petition to require SoS to validate Obama’s credentials. The key changes are in blue and must be made by you; this will require some research to determine how your state can work with that document. When you have everything you need to light this fire, you will need to file your petition with your state courts, likely your “Superior Court” for your county. You will do this ‘pro se’ – without a lawyer; if you are unable to afford filing fees, get your financial records together and request waiver ‘in forma pauperis’.

We need everyone to slam every state with this. I am a paralegal in California and am willing to repackage that document for each state if you can do some basic ground work. What I cannot do for you is give legal advice. The document is believed to have all critical arguments in writing and should be substantially compelling to the ends we seek.

Check your state for how one qualifies to be a presidential candidate: if you find that there is as flimsy a system as California, dig in for a good fight. California is pathetic: if you are known to be a candidate in other states, if you can get petitions in your favor, you are a candidate. Remember, you are asking an elected official to simply do their job. “

#96 RedStateGuy on 10.20.08 at 9:56 am

BO & Global Warming Hoax

Here’s an item I don’t recall anyone mentioning here. If BO wins he’ll probably appoint that fat pompous ass AlGore to be some sort of Global Warming Czar. (IMO this whole man-made Global Warming thing is a huge scam).

BO & Gore will tax and regulate what’s left of US industry into the ground to control carbon output. And forget about tapping into our own resources…

#97 indy on 10.20.08 at 9:57 am

You know the Obama Camp and MSM mantra:

“They attack the messenger”

Look what how they trashed “Joe the Plumber.”

Anything that the Obama Camp and MSM put out: “Just consider the source.”

#98 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 9:57 am

#87 vadaryl;
Yes, significant silence, I’d call it.

D’ya suppose MO will have to console herself with a few more $500 snacks when the feces hits the fan? :cry: :twisted:

#99 mijabsnji on 10.20.08 at 9:59 am

#69 utahpuma
Interesting, I have said all along he has devel ears :)

#100 Puff on 10.20.08 at 9:59 am

I will not vote for BO as I think that HE thinks he is above the law. I also believe he is a racist who will cause this country a complete break down with white against black. I see him taking a page out of the Odinga play book.
I do not believe that he loves this country. Nor do I believe that MO loves this country.
It is downright scary to think that these 2 racists could end up in the white house.
I will vote McCain and load my six gun.

#101 mick on 10.20.08 at 10:00 am

#60 vadaryl

16.00 Norwegian is 10:00am ET.

If they don’t release it today then I think the tape is bogus.
___________________________________

I think I have this right, Norwegian time is 6 hours ahead of us (NY East Cost time) so that means in a few minutes we will have an update. Am I right?

#102 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 10:00 am

RCP averarage today, 4.8 Obama.
That is down by almost half since last week.

I believe there are a lot of Democrats like us (maybe 5 to 8 million).
I can’t wait to vote.

#103 mick on 10.20.08 at 10:00 am

#60 vadaryl

now

#104 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 10:01 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

#7) Barack Obama’s Policies on Energy Would Keep Us Dependent on Foreign Oil

Barack Obama opposes drilling on and offshore to reduce gas and oil prices.

While Barack Obama has opposed off-shore drilling and a gas-tax holiday (as supported by John McCain or Hillary Clinton), his solution to our energy crisis does include additional tax burdens on oil company profits, taxes we can only imagine will be passed on to the consumer, thus causing an even more expensive trip to the gas station.

Ethanol subsidies are a major plank in Barack Obama’s view of energy independence and national security. He favors ethanol subsidies, some of which end up in the hands of the same oil companies he says should be subjected to a windfall profits tax: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/us/politics/23ethanol.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin

Obama is opposed to drilling in ANWAR, in a desolate tundra area the size of Minnesota. The oil industry says it would need to use only 2,000 acres-an area no bigger than Dulles Airport, outside D.C.-to get that oil. This footprint would be 50 times smaller than the Montana ranch owned by Ted Turner: http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/goldberg200503180758.asp
While Obama attacks American automakers for not making enough environmental friendly automobiles, he drives a V-8 hemi-powered Chrysler 300: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/05/more_obama_hypocrisy.html

Obama claims that the oil savings from inflating our tires properly would equal new production plans: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71044

#105 notanegghead on 10.20.08 at 10:02 am

i live in texas and today is first day of early voting. i will vote for mccain/palin. i will not vote for OBAMA because he is not qualified to be president. obama will destroy what is left of our economy.

#106 mijabsnji on 10.20.08 at 10:03 am

The only thing and only one obama is interested is Obama .

#107 RedStateGuy on 10.20.08 at 10:03 am

BrianH

“Plumbers for McCain. Toilets for Obama.”

———

That is rich! Think I’ll make a bumper stick with that one!

#108 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 10:04 am

#93 BrianH That is what makes this story a little fishey. But on the other hand if I was the Obama camp would I want the public to know what I am doing about it? No way I would want that out in the public so behind the scenes I would do whatever it takes to get that story dumped. No if I was running Mccain’s group I would do whatever it takes to get that out but quietly behind the screnes too. But why the media is sitting on this I don’t have a clue. I guess they are scared of what might happen if they do.

#109 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 10:04 am

Goooooooooooood morning, PUMA NATION!

Murphy,

I am breaking my “NObama Reasons” into subcategories and will post more as I compile them:

Last one!! Off to PROWL!

#8) Barack Obama Would Not Support Badly Needed Education Reform

Obama would block true education reform because he too beholden to the teacher’s unions: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/07/clinton_obama_go_easy_on_school_reform_talk/
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=Y2E1MTFkZTVjZTlkOTBiYWFlYWUyM2RjYTRjNjhkMmM=

When speaking before Planned Parenthood Barack Obama defended his proposal of providing sex education to children in kindergarten. Hear him say it in his own words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6vZRy62KY

Obama sends his children to private schools, but he opposes school choice which would especially help poor parents send their children to better schools: http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obama-and-vouchers/71798/

#110 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 10:05 am

#57 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 9:32 am

In a magazine interview Obama and his wife Michelle revealed that one of their steadfast house rules is not giving Christmas or birthday presents to Malia, 10, and Sasha, seven. //
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No, don’t push that rumor; they spend like drunken sailors on their kids, including Christmas, but still have the “Santa Claus” thing going with them, so the kids are told the parents won’t buy them anything then because they get so much from the Fat Man. ;)

#111 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 10:05 am

No update yet, I guess it might take awhile to update their web site.

#112 mijabsnji on 10.20.08 at 10:05 am

Early voteing started in Fl today but I am waiting to go to the polls on election day in my Hillary suporters for McCain shirt and to hang out since the polls are at the library.

#113 azpuma on 10.20.08 at 10:06 am

Important Update: US Law firm enters into agreement to represent API in The Michelle Obama tapes to be released soon in the US

Posted by africanpress on October 20, 2008

The touchy interview tapes of Michelle Obama, the wife of the US Presidential Candidate Barack Obama is soon ready for release in the US and will be aired unedited.

The release has taken long due to the fact that API wanted to clear all legal hurdles and be safe from getting sued by any one. API and a US Law firm – LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG has just entered into an agreement giving the law firm the right to represent API in all matters that may arise due to the Michelle Obama interview and the release of the tapes in the US.

API has realised that the interview with Mrs Obama is of great significance in the coming elections. The release of the tapes is not intended to derail the elections or to destroy the chances that Mr Obama may have in getting elected the first black president of the United States.

For us in API we wanted to get the tapes released – aired by a news channel that has a good reputation in the US, one that has listeners interested in the elections.

Many networks have contacted us and due to the fact that we in API do not know them from before, it took time to go through all requests from the networks that took contact with us and to choose one that will air the tapes unedited.

API is not interested in selling the tapes to any network. Our demand is that the tapes must be aired unedited by the network that we finally select.

While doing the selection, we have landed into a problem with some networks who have taken upon themselves to inform the readers that they have already got an agreement to air the tapes.

So far, no network has been selected and yet we have received signed agreements by three networks claiming to have been finally given the go ahead to release the tapes.

One kind reader has helped us a great deal by forwarding one email that has been circulated in the US about a deal. We want to state categorically that we are not asking any one for money in exchange for airing the tapes.

After reading the email below, we were very shocked at the turn of events:

———- Original Message —–
From: Ed Hale
To: William Bower
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: Audio Tape

Hi Will: I have been in contact with the African Press International, who ran the Michelle Obama story. I have talked to them about releasing the audio tape they have of her. It would appear that this is going to happen. The format will be, I will bring the reporter on and let them tell us how they obtained the tape, and then I will run the audio tape, and bring the reporter back on to verify that it is the real thing. Once I have this done, I will place it on my web site, file for and get a copyright on it. Once I have this done, I will contact you with the link. What I would like for you, since you live in Washington DC, to do is contact CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and MSNBC. Let them listen to the audio tape. I will then take bid on this tape. The starting bid will be 2 million dollars. Once you have received the high bid, we will break the money down this way, 45% to Bar H Farms Inc, parent copy of Plains Radio network, 45% to African Press International and 10% for yourself. If you can do this, please call me at 806-447-0010. Thanks Ed
It is true that we have been in contact with many news groups because they have contacted us. The email above is talking about money and is send to someone who was kind enough to forward it and alert us us on how we were being potrayed as a news organization that wants to cash in 45% of 2 million dollars.

API wants the readers to know that we are for the truth and such email being circulated in the US makes us look bad. This serves to further delay the release of the tapes because we do not know who we can trust to air the tapes unedited and without cashing in on them.

The same group of people we thought we could trust have gone ahead and signed unilateral agreements binding them and API, agreements stating that API surrenders all the rights to the tapes to them and that the tapes will belong to them and they are the one to decide who should listen to the tapes on cost. This is against API’s principles.

Now that we have an agreement for representation with a US law firm, we think things will move faster in the direction of releasing the tapes. The Law firm will help us get out of the unilateral agreements not signed by us.

We ask the readers to bear with us. We owe you the truth and the tapes being released.

Published by The Chief Editor/ African Press International

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/

#114 indy on 10.20.08 at 10:06 am

The API has entered an agreement with Philip Berg!!!

#115 GBPuma on 10.20.08 at 10:08 am

This is an update from a comment post yesterday about WI elections.
Received this email back early this morning from David Buerger at the WI GAB.
Wis. Stat. § 6.55(2)(b) states that people who register to vote on Election Day need to provide proof of residence as outlined in § 6.34. If they cannot provide proof of residence, an application can be accepted if the information is corroborated by another eligible voter who must then provide their own proof of residence. This is not a policy decision that can be rescinded by the GAB, but instead a determination made by the legislature that must be addressed by law. Also, this is not a recent change, the law has allowed this since the 1970′s.

Also, all voter registrations received on Election Day are confirmed by sending the voter a verification postcard after Election Day. If those postcards come back undeliverable, the clerk’s office follows up and if they cannot confirm the registration, it is referred to the local District Attorney for possible prosecution as voter fraud.

Thank you for your feedback. If you are still concerned, I suggest you bring your ideas to your local state legislator to address in the next session.

So we will have to address this with unfortunately the next legislature. But One good thing is that they do have some verification process in place. So let’s hope ACORN hasn’t been able to get around these.

#116 GBPuma on 10.20.08 at 10:10 am

To answer the question about not voting for the O-ssiah that comes down to 1 word
CORRUPTION

#117 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 10:10 am

indy: I’m very wary of this API thing, and now that they are working with Berg…I dunno. Seems like a hoax/ set up. We’ll see. Fingers crossed.

#118 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 10:15 am

Look at these Obots. Yelling for nothing.

(See the puma? Also: yippy!! Obama brings socialism. These IDIOTS don’t get it! It’s not about screwing the rich and makin’ off with all their money to build equality–it’s about losing our damn rights and liberty. grrr.)

Obama Supporters Heckle at McCain Rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgtij3dE10A

#119 sue66 on 10.20.08 at 10:16 am

#56 Believe it or not, you just gave me the final nail. I may as well send in my vote today.

#120 mick on 10.20.08 at 10:18 am

**** UPDATE ABOUT API STORY ****

This from Lawyer Jeff Schreiber who is in daily contact with Phil Berg.

__________________________

You know, folks, I really hope that I’m dead wrong on this one. I’ve said from the beginning that the article in question, standing alone and without supporting evidence, wasn’t enough to convince me of the authenticity of the statements, but if the tapes surfaced and were real, obviously all bets were off.

Should I be wrong on this (and even over and beyond this post at API’s Web site, I have reason to believe that I am), I will gladly own up to it — once I’m finished doing the dance of joy in my living room.

I asked Philip Berg, via e-mail, whether or not he thought the API/Michelle Obama tapes were real and whether they would in fact be released within the next day or so as Chief Editor Korir maintains. His answer was simple, and firm.

“Yes,” Berg wrote.

I will say that there is more to this that I simply cannot report. Still, keep checking here for updates. In the meantime, keep your fingers crossed, and know that I am doing the same.

http://www.americasright.com/

#121 cadiane on 10.20.08 at 10:18 am

I’m not voting for Bo simply because of Patriotism…he shows no love for his country that I have seen.

#122 LeeinUSA on 10.20.08 at 10:19 am

AzPuma, I just read the release by API also, enough already, get those MO tapes out before the election!!!

Who is Ed Hale, why does that name sound familiar???

#123 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 10:21 am

WtH is API talking about?

Phil Berg; Ed Hale, and Will Bower??

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/

This is whacked.

#124 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 10:22 am

Interesting… the drudge report headling changed from “Obama +5.5″ to “Obama +4.8″ in a manner of minutes this morning, LOL…

#125 one4all on 10.20.08 at 10:23 am

Reasons for NoObama:

Obama’s long-time ties to radicals and corruption.
Obama’s lack of dedication to core American values.
Obama’s inability to be totaly honest.
Obama’s inability to show Patriotism.
Obama’s habit of changing stands and pandering.
Obama’s inability to claim responsability.
Obama’s ability to incite hostility with speach.
Obama’s presumptious, elite attitude.
Obama’s use of the Media .
Obama’s verbal abuse of race and power .

Just a few reasons that I won’t vote Obama.
Actually the main reason is that he totally disgusts me.

#126 murphy on 10.20.08 at 10:26 am

kat #123 — a-yup.

#127 GBPuma on 10.20.08 at 10:27 am

Here’s 600 million reasons to not vote Obama. He thinks he can buy the election with illegal money and no body cares or would know about it.

Obama’s Secret Campaign Cash: Has $63 Million Flowed from Foreign Sources?
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/19/141979.html?s=al&promo_code=6D84-1

They list several of the findings of those that gave way over the $4600 limit and unlike McCain refuses to report the names of who these supposed “under $200″ donors are to be verified.
It’s all about the mega money. and this is before the last filing of $150 mil….so how much of that is illegal money? It is dispicible the way he gets and keeps all this illegal money.

#128 GoHillaryGo on 10.20.08 at 10:28 am

Wow! Have you folks seen Ed Hale’s new website? It’s called Hillary Clinton Supporters for John McCain or simply http://www.hcsfjm.com.

Hi folks. My name is Ed Hale and I am life long Democrat till May 31, 2008. When I saw those 30 people break the rules and make their own, and then to vote to take away 4 of Hillary Clinton’s delegates, but worst of all, make the uncommitted go for Obama, that was my last straw. What I saw today was what went on in the USSR (Russia) 30 years ago. The Boss’s called the shots, and I decide that I did not want any part of them.

Well, it’s clear that Ed has a case of the raw ass and apparently so does a bunch of folks who have went to the site.

#129 taggles1 on 10.20.08 at 10:29 am

I will not vote for Obama not because of Hillary, but because of what he did to democrats. He split our party with the most ruthless tactics and left half of us out in the cold.

Caucus fraud, sexism, delegate arm twisting and intimidation at the convention to secure a primary “victory”, and calling whole swaths of people and areas of our country racists. These things were not done to Hillary alone. They were done to every single one of us who believe in fair elections and the promotion of women who seek power. The tactic of silencing dissent using the race card is offensive. If we sit still and roll over we deserve what we get.

You can see the same tactics deployed in the general election as well, which are equally offensive. So if you’ve seen the light or just a ray, welcome aboard.

#130 GoHillaryGo on 10.20.08 at 10:30 am

#128 GoHillaryGo on 10.20.08 at 10:28 am

was all quote. No words from me.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=1821

#131 Gogandalf on 10.20.08 at 10:30 am

Rasmussen today BO 50 – MC – 46 -

This suggests that the race may be tightening a bit. Prior to the past week, Obama had enjoyed a five to eight point advantage for several weeks.

McCain has regained his advantage among male voters, leading by five. However, Obama leads by eleven among women.

From Rasmussen above.

#132 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 10:30 am

@#123:

WTF is API talking about?? Ed Hale emailing Will Bower asking for $2 million. That’s not even ON THIS PLANET.

Get Berg AWAY from this crap.

What they hell are they doing?

You all don’t think it’s funny that there is a “whitey tape” rumor for many months and then this African press comes along saying they have “whitey tapes”…and all this leading on…day after day.

Just like those notorious emails: I am a Nigerian prince, need money to get my money. Gimme social security number. Marry me. blah blah.

Am I the only one who finds this sketchy?

#133 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 10:31 am

oh good murphy.

#134 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 10:32 am

ABC news and the Huffingtonpost last week said this group is a fake.
=======================
Well in that case it MUST be real!

#135 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 10:32 am

About the “share the wealth” philosophy:

It tacitly assumes the “Zero Sum” scenario, in which there is a fixed amount of wealth (a “pie”) which must be divided up. Any gain by one must come from a loss to others.

That not only America but the world is now demonstrably wealthier than it was decades or centuries ago is actually the result of Positive Sum activities: human effort adds and defines wealth. E.g.: gold is valuable because so much effort is required to find and extract it. Aluminum used to be rarer and more valuable than platinum because it was so hard to refine; discovery of the Bessemer Process has brought its value back in line with its status as the second most common metal on Earth. Etc. Brains and effort create wealth.

Forced redistribution quickly becomes a Negative Sum game, because of “administrative overhead” and resistance by the current wealth-owners. Sometimes it is warranted, as a step to increase the value of infrastructure which will enable future wealth-creation. As a basic tenet of society, it leads to the Soviet state, in which “the government pretends to pay us, and we pretend to work”, as the old Proletariat Worker Hero joke went. See Kornbluth’s “The Marching Morons”, for the ultimate extrapolation. :lol:

#136 GoHillaryGo on 10.20.08 at 10:32 am

I am not voting for Obama because when I first ran into him the Voice of God inside of me told me he was totally corrupt and to fight against him.

#137 greenfun on 10.20.08 at 10:34 am

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#138 bythelake on 10.20.08 at 10:39 am

Just a reminder;

Your Social Security

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat of Republican. Facts are Facts!!!

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program.. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees ;
would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month —
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put
away’ — you may be interested in the following:

————————————————————-

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

——————————————————————–

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.

———————————————– ————————

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, wit h Al Gore casting the
‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

——————————————————————-

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving
annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That’s right!

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

————– ————————– ——————————

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully
sure of what isn’t so.

But it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Thomas Jefferson

#139 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 10:41 am

I just don’t believe it. This is a great soap opra, and this story line needs to end. We are really screwing this up. API is making a mistake in getting any network involved in this. They should of released this last week and none of this mess would be happening. People see $$$$ and they go after it. What example are we showing the world. This just makes me sick. This election is to important to play games like this. Shame on all of them.

#140 GoHillaryGo on 10.20.08 at 10:45 am

If Joe makes $250K with 5 workers he will take $50K and invest it back into the busness then the next year he will make $300K with 6 wokers.

However if we take $50K away from Joe then the next year he will make only $200K with 4 workers. Before long no one makes anything. Everyone is unemployed.

The problem is that distributing $50K to people who consume is a waste of investment money. The people spend the money on booze and TV and the money is gone forever.

Lets say I have $50K and I can invest it. I might make a profit of $50K and pay $25K in taxes. However, I might invest the money and lose it all. Or I might not like that and just leave the money under the pillow.

So I sit here and say. Well I can risk all my money. win or lose it all. If I win the gov walks off with half my winnings for no effort on their part. Or I lose it all and the gov does not share in my loss. It is not a good risk reward ratio. We need to have lower taxes so the risk reward ratio becomes worth the risk and we create more jobs.

This is why there is so much corruption on wall street. People are unwilling to take the risk and want a sure win possible through corruption because the taxes are too high to take the risk. So high taxes create corruption.

#141 girlsrule on 10.20.08 at 10:47 am

I just wanted to emphasize something I had posted over the weekend. The AYERS, ODINGA, WRIGHT, Obama connections are affecting people and their decisions. I talked with a woman from Maryland at the McCain rally on Saturday who voted for Obama in the primaries but was having buyers remorse because of the character issue. She was particularly disturbed with Obama’s direct connection with Odinga in Kenya and Obama using his senate seat to benefit his cousin in Kenya, funds, advice, etc. not to mention using tax payer dollars to travel to Kenya as US Senator. DO NOT BELIEVE for a moment that people are not listening and that they are started to have doubts. Just thought I would share again.

#142 Grizzly on 10.20.08 at 10:47 am

Obama wants to “spread the wealth” AND create a new national “civilian security” corps at the same time. This prescription has been filled before – in the country of Zimbabwe – with predictable results:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1260755-p2.html

Jimmy Carter was the driving force behind getting Robert Mugabe installed as ruler of Zimbabwe. The people of Zimbabwe has open elections and chose an African bishop at their new PM, but Carter threatened to use the power of the US to not only pull all US support, but to pull the support of its allies as well. Zimbabwe was forced into a second election, where Mugabe was “chosen”.

Before Mugage’s rule, Zimbabwe was known as the “breadbasket of Africa”. Its agricultural industry fed not only the people of Zimbabwe but served to contribute a sizeable chunk of Zim’s GNP.

That all changed. Mugabe decided that the wealth should be shared. It was not fair that citizens of Zimbabwe, citizens whose families had lived there for over a hundred years, should be allowed to keep their holdings – all because they happened to be white.

There were over 2000 family farms in Zimbabwe at the time. Those farms were seized. In the beginning, Mugabe promised to pay fair value for the farms confiscated for redistribution, but that pretense was dropped after only a short time. Farms were seized by armed militias and the families were forced out at gunpoint – the lucky ones that is. Other families who protested or resisted were summarily slaughtered. And the world stood by and watched.

Now, there are less than 100 farms under their original owners. The confiscated farms have been allowed to go fallow. When farms became in short supply, the redistribution was expanded to cover other businesses. Banks that had operated there, like Barclays, were told that if they wanted to do business in Zim, they had to give a 51% ownership interest to the people of Zim. Most foreign businesses have pulled out.

This disaster has created an unprecedented rate of inflation in Zim – get ready – of 1 trillion percent. The money you earn in an hour is basically worthless after the end of that hour.

The “share the wealth” coupled with “bring on the brownshirts” strategy is a recipe for disaster. And for those that do not think Obama is capable of such a scheme, just look what he has done to anyone that opposes him in this election – poor Joe the Plumber is now out of a job – all for asking a question.

#143 LeeinUSA on 10.20.08 at 10:48 am

bythelake, thanks for the SS info, I’ll be getting it sent out in emails & published on some public forums!

#144 Woodie on 10.20.08 at 10:49 am

The reason I have changed from Democratic to independent is basically I have learned how corrupt the democratic party is, including Obama’s campaign. Also I am displeased with the way they treated Hillary.

There are so many reasons but here goes:

Obama has received over one half billion dollars for his campaign. Where does all this money come from? I am sure this will come out later plus all his other indiscretions. There is suspicion that it comes from overseas. This is illegal to accept funds from a foreign country and not only that it makes me very nervous.

A lot of people have said why doesn’t America wake up and see Obama for what he is. He is a very smart man and a very good speaker. Apparently, in his speeches he has been uses a form of brainwashing.
I read a 67 page article on how he did it. Very interesting. In the past I have heard of subliminal seduction which can be conveyed over the TV. Your subconscious mind picks up these words or images i.e. “Vote for Obama”, which are flashed on the screen that only your subconscious mind can see.

I question:

His ideologies.
His associates.
His lack of experience.
His wife’s hostilities.
His citizenship question.
His fraud accusations.
His girlfriend who went to the caribbean. What is she really doing down there?
His Socialistic views on how to run this country, ugh!!

All of this scares me to death. I have an absentee voter form which is filled out and ready to mail and I am going to start to call 5 people a day or maybe more to help them decide and tell them that Obama is not right for this country.

There is word that we will have a terrorist attack after the elections. I refuse to be intimidated or swayed by the mainstream media which has shown how utterly biased they are or anyone from the Middleast or anyone else. My vote is my own and I will pick the best person for the job.

MCCAIN/PALIN GO!!!

#145 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 10:49 am

Another of many reasons I’m not voting for Obama is Oprah Winfrey.
How much of that 150 million last month comes from Winfrey and Co.
All from “grassroots supporters”, my ass.
What matters is what happens when we go behind that curtain on Nov. 4.

#146 shampoovta on 10.20.08 at 10:50 am

Good mourning Pumas :smile:

#147 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 10:54 am

I’m just going to stay away from the API thing. I hope it’s all on the up and up, and it would be great if it is true.

#148 murphy on 10.20.08 at 10:55 am

kat #147 — me too.

#149 murphy on 10.20.08 at 10:55 am

morning shampoovta!

#150 michelle47 on 10.20.08 at 10:57 am

My reasons for voting against Obama…..

I want my children to understand the purpose of work, I want them to take pride in contributing to our great society, I want them to understand that the best person to count on is yourself. I want them to feel the pride of getting up everyday and working for what you need and want, even when you do not want to. I do not want them going through life thinking that someone owes them something, they owe it to themselves. I want my children to be self reliant, I want others to see their self reliance. I want my children to want to help others, I do not want them forced into it. I want my children to be able to fail and learn from their failures, I want their failures to make them better people not bitter people.

I want a country free of media manipulation, I want to know the truth about our candidates running for office, not the medias version of the truth. I want a president that was elected without fraud and manipulation as the centerpiece of their campaign. I want a patriot, one that understands the sacrifice many brave men and women have given for our freedoms. I want a president that understands how real america lives, not some skewed version offered by terrorists that are now professors. I want a president that wants to help america, not feed their ego…I want a president that loves america, I do not want a president who wants to change america.

#151 Silence Dogood on 10.20.08 at 10:59 am

I will not vote for a communist. Period.

http://townhall.com/Columnists/LauraHollis/2008/10/16/time_to_use_the_c_word?page=full

#152 KarlaforHillary on 10.20.08 at 11:01 am

Just a quick question for anyone who wants to answer:

How the heck can McCain possibly win this thing with all of the voter fraud going on? Is it even remotely possible? I have a feeling that 90% of the country could vote for McCain, and Obama would still be declared the winner.

#153 indy on 10.20.08 at 11:01 am

#119 sue66:

Thanks, I am glad I could be of help.

Before Obama entered the race, I thought he was an impressive young senator. When he threw his hat in the ring for President, I vetted him as I do all the candidates. I’m an Independent.

I started with the Chicago newspaper archives. Wow! Couldn’t believe it. The more I have researched Obama, the more I find information that leads to something else I didn’t know. I have a file that is 5 inches thick. I have maxed my bookmarks. I have computer files, I typed up. One is my rebuttal of Obama’s rebuttal to Corsi’s book. Obama’s denials were mostly spin. It even led me to a Lie, I uncovered, he told Tim Russert last year on Meet the Press. I have info on his missing Columbia thesis, and his professor while there. As I said, there is so much more. And every day I find out something more troubling.

Now compare that to Hillary, McCain and Palin. In vetting them I am even more impressed with their good records.

I’ve been posting,”debating” and stating my reasons on MSM sites for months, hoping that someone would read my posts.

This site is my solace, which I run to when I can’t tolerate the Koolaid drinking Obama supporters anymore. Thank you Murphy and PUMAs.

Who knew that I would make the case and convince someone not to vote for Obama on this site of mostly like-minded individuals.

What a pleasant surprise. And once again, thank you.

#154 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:01 am

good one from hillbuzz on friday:

Oct 17, 2004: Kerry has 10 point lead in 13 Swing States!

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/breaking-john-kerry-has-won-all-three-debates-and-is-leading-by-10-points-in-13-key-swing-states/

#155 DancesWithPumas on 10.20.08 at 11:02 am

This lifelong Democrat, after initially being open to either Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton or obama as Democrat Party’s nominee, will not be voting for obama because, aside from his lack of experience, principles, and positions, obama is the symbol and result of the corruption of the Democratic Party that undermined the primary electoral process.

The disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida voters, obama’s tactic of withdrawing his name from the ballot in Michigan and being awarded several of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s delegates and all of the “uncommitted” votes of that state (a decision that was in violation of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee’s own rules), the caucus cheating, corruption, and “piling-on” of bussed-in voters, the thuggish, physically and verbally abusive behaviors of obama’s supporters toward voters and women in particularly, the RBC’s decision to violate its own rules to favor obama, the vile sexist treatment of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton by obama, his cult–like followers, the media, and the deafening silence of the DNC regarding the sexist / misogynist treatment of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, and by default, all women. The accusations of racism interjected into the campaign each time obama slipped in voter survey polls or when he received negative publicity, the constant accusations of racism whenever obama was/is questioned or challenged, the payments of thousands of dollars to super- delegates in exchange for their votes, the threats of violence and bloodshed if obama wasn’t the nominee, the threats and pressure delegates received in Denver at the National Convention where they were stalked, chased, and brow beaten into voting for obama; the last minute changes in delegate vote procedures by Nancy Pelosi, the extraordinary pressure required by voters to have Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s placed in nomination (even though she received more popular votes than obama), the extraordinary pressure required by voters to have a roll-call vote on the floor of the Convention, the decision to prevent an open vote on the convention floor; the final tallying of delegate votes where states “passed” instead of accurately reflecting the votes of the people of their states, the withholding of the actual formal tally that showed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton within several delegates of obama’s ill-gotten delegate count.

As for obama himself… he is the selectee of the DNC, in spite of the will of the majority of Democratic voters, and that alone disqualifies him from receiving my vote.

That he lacks principle, positions, and any meaningful experience, his lack of documentation as a state senator, student, citizen, are other reasons. Even the medical report he made public was an undated, one page letter by a doctor stating that he is in good health; his questionable associations with Ayres, ACORN, and Rezko. His divisiveness and unwillingness to answer questions, his flip-flopping on positions, depending on which group he is addressing, and often within hours or days of stating the opposite position. His willingness to accuse anyone who questions, challenges, criticizes, or doesn’t want to vote for him, of being racists. His unwillingness to speak out against the violent abuses of women by his devotees and the mdia, reveals a profound lack of character.

#156 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 11:03 am

I am not votting for obama
1. he has not done A thing to deserve the presidency
2. he is not a man of word: his words are worthless, he says whatever people want to hear
3. he is not a man of honor: all his political posts were obtained thru truculents & dubious methods
4. EXPERIENCE: 0 , WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR HIS CITY, WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR HIS STATE , WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY???, HAS HE MADE GOOD USE OF THE PEOPLE´S MONEY; from what I have read NO
4. The OBSCENITY of money spent & raised for electoral propaganda makes him unworthy of trust, where does that money has come from?????
5.GENDER ABUSE: used with HILLARY & PALIN by his supporters and his silence makes him accomplice . something that dirty never happened in any elections in USA or any modern country
6.His alliance with america´s enemies
7.His alliances with people of doubtful reputation
8. lact of transparency in:
-BC affair
-citezenship
– records:- college,- law school,-harvard law review
– tuition payments in college &law school
9.FRAU:
he was not elected in the primary by the people
and now it seems that what was practiced in the primaries is being applied in the generals
10. the lack of modesty and decorum
ururping presidential functions
planning the presidential inauguration ceremony
11. his stalinist and maoist tendencies: spread of wealth, militia, children indoctrination etc >>>>SCARY
12. his lack of AMERICANISM
13. and the most pathetic is the use as tissue of the AA
HE USES THEM FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT
14. HE WANTS “THE CHANGE” FOR THE EGOCENTRIC REASON OF OBTAINING “THE POWER” to put our institutions upside down and inside out
….I could go on, and on…

#157 W. Lotus on 10.20.08 at 11:07 am

I am a black woman who is not voting for Obama. I used to be a Democrat; this year I changed my voter’s registration to “no party”. Here are the reasons why.

The Obama phenomemon is not new to me. I grew up in the black pentecostal church and saw this phenomenon all of the time. A man gets up in the pulpit and spends the next hour tossing out cliches that, when strung together, say a whole lot of nothing and include no practical advice one can apply to one’s everyday life. Yet, what he says is carefully chosen to pluck at people’s heartstrings. The bulk of the congregation is played like fiddles; they cry and shout and jump and are moved by the pretty words. The man is declared a “man of God” and “a great preacher”. If anyone dares to closely examine what he says and points out the lack of content, that person is nearly crucified. Their emotions were stirred, so the gross lack of content in his words and lifestyle are overlooked, and they will fiercely attack anyone, even a fellow church member, who says otherwise.

Obama is the same.

One day this man no one knows makes a speech at the Democratic convention. Suddenly the Democratic Party is bowing at his feet. No one is willing to look at the fact that he has done *nothing* to indicate he has the strength of character necessary to lead this country. Once he manages to get to Congress, no one is willing to look at the fact that his seat was barely warm, before he began campaigning for president. Those of us who question the wisdom of putting someone with absolutely no experience at that level are fiercely attacked by our own party. We point out that if Senator Clinton had done the same thing, she would not have been likely to get far in the Democratic Party primary, let alone make it to the convention, and we are shouted down. No one is able to say what, of substance, this man has done. But suddenly, he is qualified to be president of the nation, when he has spent more time campaigning for president than he has spent on Capital Hill doing the job he was elected to do?

There is a look into his character: he will neglect the job he was elected to do in order to pursue personal/political gain.

Then the word started coming from the foot soldiers about the caucus fraud they saw with their own eyes. We were told about the pressure put on delegates at the convention to change their Hillary votes to Obama; the foot soldiers saw that, too. We saw the rules committee give Obama delegates for a state where his name wasn’t even on the ballot. Many of us wrote to the mainstream media and let them know about these things. Yet, the mainstream media remained *silent*. Why are they working so hard to protect a man who supposedly has done next to nothing? Why were they not vetting him more thoroughly?

Then news of his questionable and scary associations came out. But for me, that was not even necessary. I had seen enough to know this man cannot be trusted. We don’t know what we are trusting, if we put our trust in him to lead this country. The pretty words mean nothing. I want to see a track record, and there is none of substance or quality. There is, however, a track record of empty words, caucus fraud, sexism, race-baiting, secret meetings, and media silencing. I refuse to vote in support of that sort of track record, so I will not.

#158 Tunedintopumas on 10.20.08 at 11:09 am

October 20, 2008

Dear Swing State Relatives,

I wanted to provide you with information about Barack Obama which I know you won’t hear in the media. This election is tremendously important not only because of the state of the country, but also because Barack Obama is an unqualified opportunist who will say anything and promise everything to become President.

WHO IS BARACK OBAMA?

This is not an easy question to answer since he hasn’t released his:

1. Birth Certificate,
2. Academic records from college and law school,
3. Academic thesis,
4. Medical records,
5. Client Lists,
6. Schedule as a State Legislator, and
7. Passport.

WHAT ARE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS?

NONE, in fact he is notable for a failure to produce.

1. He was the first elected editor-in-chief of the Harvard Law Review (the position is usually awarded based on academic standing) and did not write one article.
2. He voted Present 130 in the Illinois Senate.
3. As Chairman of the Senate subcommittee on Afghanistan he held no hearings.
4. He did not author or sponsor any legislation in the Senate. (He has only put in about 140 days on the job in the Senate.)

HE LIES ABOUT HIS PAST CONNECTIONS WITH RADICAL GROUPS AND CRIMINALS

Barack Obama’s past is rife with connections to groups and individuals which hold extreme views and have attacked America in words and actions.

1. He worked for ACORN (an organization of community organizers) which has been found guilty of voter registration fraud and is currently under investigation for multiple acts of voter registration fraud in connection with this election – all paid for with your tax dollars.
2. He started his political career in the home of Weathermen William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn – known for setting of bombs at the Pentagon.
3. His long time mentor and friend is Rev. Jeremiah Wright of “God Dam America” fame.
4. He purchased his $1.67 million home with the help of Tony Rezko, slumlord and influence peddler most recently found guilty of fraud.

Obama has, of course, minimized his connections to these people while also asserting that he was the only person in Chicago that didn’t know who the Weathermen were, what Jeremiah Wright preached at his church and that Tony Rezko was a crook.

WHAT WILL AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY BE LIKE?

On specific issues that would be hard to say because he has been on both sides of every one. Here’s an incomplete list:

1. FISA,
2. Ending the Iraq War immediately,
3. NAFTA
4. McCain Energy Bill, and
5. Public Financing for elections.

One thing he doesn’t deny is that he wants to “spread the wealth around” by taxing individuals who make too much to pass on money and benefits to persons who don’t pay taxes at all (about 40% of Americans). With Pelosi and Reid unchecked in Congress he would be in a position to make his dream a reality. (An example of Democratic handiwork is the subprime mortgage mess which took down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and sunk the economy.) Unfortunately, does anyone really believe the great give-away can be accomplished by merely raising taxes on 2% of the population as Obama promises? If you do, I have several great deals for you, including a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

CONCLUSION

I know we are at a time of a low in our fortunes and fear for our prospects. But the answer is not to put the vast power of the Presidency into the hands of someone who has devoted his life to getting ahead without any adherence to principles and no accomplishments benefitting anyone but himself. Please vote to protect America. Vote for John McCain!

#159 TexasTigress on 10.20.08 at 11:12 am

Why Im a NOBAMA Democrat :

From Barack Obama’s campaign’s very inception , the leadership of the DNC declared him the winner – at any cost . This Freshman Senator , with 143 days in the Senate , very little experience in the Il. State Senate ,with questionable ties to many , many , corrupt , racist , communist , socialist , suspect individuals and organizations , has been allowed to run the most divisive , hate-filled , and CORRUPT campaign from the very beginning . The fact that Acorn and his other “get out the Vote’ movements are just now being investigated is , in my opinion , too little too late . If it weren’t for massive , organized voter fraud and caucus fraud that was orchestrated by the Obama campaign during the Primaries . He wouldn’t even BE the Democratic nominee ! See: http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/ and http://caucuscheating.blogspot.com/
The media immediately fell in love with this inexperienced , unvetted candidate and neglected to perform the most basic of their duties in informing the American public as to his past deeds and connections . Forget the fact that he spent 20 years in a racist church or funneled millions to his cousin Ralia Odinga who then lost his election and ordered his supporters to commit genocide against Christians in Kenya , and forget the fact that his own Citizenship is the base of several current legal challenges , what had he done in his own home district on the south side of Chicago that would indicate that he is capable of leading the Nation ?
While people in Obama’s own district were struggling to find jobs and housing that wasn’t crumbling around them and an education for their children , what was he doing for THEM ? He was given 60million dollars a year via the Annenberg Challenge that he was in charge of distributing to the community – what did he do with it ? He gave money to the churches of Jerimiah Wright , and Rev. Pfleger , to Tony Rezco and several other radical organizations , but what about when the school system asked for money for Algebra and the District 5 Math initiative ? He told them ,”No.”
He was , however able to find a million dollar earmark for his wife’s employer who , in turn , was able to increase he salary from $100,000 to more than $300,000 per year , and he begged for 3 million for a new projector at the Sky Lab . How did any of this help the people in his own district and WHY didn’t the media think Americans needed to know what kind of a ‘leader’ he has been ?
I told myself for a long time that this would all get straightened out . That the media and my party would not allow this kind of stuff to continue to be downplayed and they would step up and say , “Sen. Obama , you’re too inexperienced and the way you are running this corrupt campaign is unacceptable . ” but it never happened , it only got worse !
The tipping point for me was when the R&B committee actually TOOK votes from Sen. Clinton and GAVE them to someone who was not even on the ballot ! That right there said to me , ” Something is going on here that is , not only UnAmerican , but CRIMINAL , and they are going to try to sell it to me .” I was not about to buy it . I had watched a great leader , with the qualifications , experience and proven track record be portrayed as a racist , a bitch , as divisive and as incompetent to be the leader that she had already been for the last 20 years .
No one reported that there were people bussed in to vote in the Iowa caucuses and no one reported that there were over 2,000 complaints of caucus fraud in Texas . No one even bothered to ask why the convention votes were so slanted towards Obama when the race was so close and when Sen. Clinton actually won the popular vote . They had picked their leader and would see him crowned regardless of the actual facts which indicated that he was not only unqualified , corrupt , and lacked substance , but that he hadn’t legitimately garnered the nomination !
I came to understand that it was a fallacy that the media was not biased , and that the party I had been loyal to for my entire life would ‘do the right thing’ . I realized that it would be up to me and like minded individuals to inform as many people as we could of the truth of this candidate and the misrepresentation of his entire existence .
This is why I will never support Obama or anyone else in the Democratic Party who has perpetuated in this crime against the American people and THIS is why I am a PUMA .

#160 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 11:13 am

#152 Karla… that is exactly what I am afraid of too… I’m afraid that Obama will- quite literally- STEAL the election from Mac/Palin through his beloved ACORN. All we can do is keep working, keep praying, and hope for the best here somehow…..

#161 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:14 am

W.Lotus and DWP — very well said.

Saving ALL of these for the Big Book of Puma.

#162 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 11:15 am

http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_th.html
Get this out to everyone.

#163 Gogandalf on 10.20.08 at 11:16 am

#157 W. Lotus – have not seen you around before – but an EXCELLENT EXCELLENT post – you said exactly what we all have felt during this entire “campaign” – thank you for that – you really should send your comments to the editors (I know they pick up nothing from us) because your words ring true – thank you for sharing.

#164 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 11:16 am

Today’s Drudge Report

DEMS GET SET TO MUZZLE THE RIGHT

excerpt: Second, a new Fairness Doctrine would drive political talk radio off the dial. If a station ran a big-audience conservative program like, say, Laura Ingraham’s, it would also have to run a left-leaning alternative. But liberals don’t do well on talk radio, as the failure of Air America and indeed all other liberal efforts in the medium to date show. Stations would likely trim back conservative shows so as to avoid airing unsuccessful liberal ones.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10202008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dems_get_set_to_muzzle_the_right_134399.htm

#165 NobamaNetwork on 10.20.08 at 11:16 am

Hannity’s Obama and Friends part 2 was brilliant last night. I hope a lot of people saw the show.

Early voting starts today in Nevada.
This election is too important because it is not about black against white, it is about our way of life and a man who is trying to take it away. Obama believes the constitution is a living document instead of a set of rule by which we have always lived. We will not go quietly into Socialism.

#166 Gogandalf on 10.20.08 at 11:16 am

#157 – I will not be voting for Obama for exactly the reasons you brought out.

#167 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 11:17 am

Good morning, PUMA-folks.

Re: #132 and sooner from Kat in your Hat: I recall PUMAs somewhere catching Ed Hale lying about Phil Berg and the lawsuit or something like that.
If not you folks, then it was HillaryClintonForum.net or TexasDarlin blog.
Now the whole Berg-AfricanPress-thing smells like poo-poo.

#168 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:20 am

hoo-eeee! This guy is MAD!

h/t to susanunpc at noquarter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHrD36NEPGk&eurl=http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/20/hear-the-outrage-open-thread/

#169 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 11:20 am

San Diego Union Tribune endores McCain (that is important because it includes the Hispanic view).

I just saw release on mccain.com, Biden is a nutball.

For Immediate Release
October 20, 2008 Contact: Press Office
703-650-5550
ICYMI: Joe Biden Says Electing Barack Obama Guarantees An International Crisis

“It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.” — Joe Biden

“Biden to Supporters: ‘Gird Your Loins’, For the Next President ‘It’s Like Cleaning Augean Stables’”
By Matthew Jaffe
ABC News’ Political Radar
October 20, 2008

Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

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#170 Woodie on 10.20.08 at 11:21 am

UPDATE — October 20, 10:00am:

That’s right. The news that I could not report last night is that Philip Berg, the same man who filed suit against Barack Obama in federal court, has been retained by African Press International to handle the legal ramifications of distributing the purported Michelle Obama tapes stateside.

“They came to me, and they want me to do it,” said Berg, who maintains that he has not yet heard any tape himself, but mentioned that API is saying that they “have more information than what they already released.”

Further comment, Berg said, will be reserved until after he hears the taped evidence.

#171 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 11:23 am

HELP, HELP all pumas

im in deep shit at this place

http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=14339

help me out here
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

#172 shampoovta on 10.20.08 at 11:24 am

Biden: “I promise you, you all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough?’

:lol:

Biden predicts early crisis will test Obama

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/20/biden-predicts-early-crisis-will-test-obama/

#173 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 11:25 am

#151:
Silence Dogwood, thanks for the post. That article is sort of my main fear. The truth is though, for as much as she knows, she doesn’t even seem to know the half of it. Barack Obama’s connections and links to people and organizations is mind-bending. I mean, one cannot even research him without finding: socialism, marxism, communism, anti-capitalism, racism against whites, bigotry against jews, anti-Americanism, Islam, misogyny, or something anti-Israel. It’s a fact. Almost anything you look up about him (that isn’t superficial) will lead to at least one of those topics.

#174 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 11:26 am

Simply: I do not like him, think he’s an arrogant twit, an empty suit who’s not held a real job; has real character and judgment issues as evidenced by his questionable associations (Ayers, Wright, Fleger, Odinga, Rezko, and on and on); will not take a clear and decisive stand on important issues as evidenced by his 120 times voting present in the Ill Senate and his flip flopping on major issues during this campaign; thinks people in small town America are all rascists clinging to their guns and religion when times get tough (proves he’s out of touch with this voting base); can give a good speech but says absolutely nothing of substance; takes credit for other people’s work; has a clear history of far, far left leaning socialist policy tendancies (wants to spread the welth around because it’s the ‘fair’ thing to do); and is just generally not ready for prime time (to be the leader of the free world in these very trying times in our history).

#175 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 11:26 am

You know…. Berg being connected with this API thing makes me wonder if he is nuts or not… and, if that is the case, how honest his “lawsuit” against BO is too…. gosh, I hope not, but I can’t help but wonder now…….

#176 TerryDo on 10.20.08 at 11:27 am

Good Morning Pumas.

Even the International Papers are playing the race card.

Headline in our city paper

OBAMA’S TWO FOES: MCCAIN AND RACISM….
Will Democrat’s color deny him White House?
**********************************
There was not a single word about Ayers, Acorn, Radicalism, Wright and all the baggage that Obama has trailing him; no they are just headlining the race card.

Even now Obama does not play the race card himself he has Biden doing it and others.

Obama will lose the presidential race because he has not been properly vetted and his
past or last of past history is in question with no answers in sight….
I want someone to answer this question….Most Obama supporters state that they do not think Governor Sarah Palin is not ready to be president if something happens to McCain… Who and what qualifies Senator Barack Hussein Obama to be president?
Maybe if they can show what qualifies Obama other than that he is black and a novelty than he would get the support of the American people until then, common sense will prevail and McCain will be the next president…

I love the rants they speak to the situation completely! http://pumaparty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4324

#177 nativegirl on 10.20.08 at 11:27 am

a Texan votes in Ohio!!

http://palestra.net/videos/play/17403

#178 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 11:30 am

170 Woodie on 10.20.08 at 11:21

These folks need to just stop yanking our chains and come out with whatever they’ve got. This continuously claiming this and that without coming forth with actual evidence is getting old and certainly not lending any credibility to these folks case.

#179 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:32 am

Obama gets cold reception in North Carolina:

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/obamas_a_socialist_woman_shout.html

#180 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 11:33 am

171 sistermoon3 I think (?) I helped you out! :lol: but I had a darn typo!

#181 snowtiger on 10.20.08 at 11:33 am

AS well as all the other reasons here, I will oppose Obama because he is a liar, and a fraud on energy policies. Obama has consistently claimed he opposes major oils companies and the Bush administrations energy policies. He is lying.
Obama supported the 2005 energy bill which gave 6 billion dollars in tax breaks to major oil companies.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6873

Joe Biden stated no clean coal plants here. No coal at all. He had to retract that statement AFTER the polls showed it was unpopular. The truth slipped out and the obama camp had to scramble to cover it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ55UzAsp6M

#182 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 11:35 am

169 bodi1313 on 10.20.08 at 11:20 am

————————————–

What in the blue blazes…? I am beginning to wonder if Biden is not hitting the bottle more then we may already suspect. It almost seems like he wants to blow Oblah’s campaign out of the water. He’s still trying to tell us that the guy’s (Oblah) not ready for prime time even though he’s (Biden) signed onto his ticket. Interesting.

#183 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 11:35 am

Why I will not vote for ‘that One’…..a better question would be why would I vote for him?

Even being a life long Democrat will not give him my vote. He has used the Obama Camps, ACORN and a corrupt DNC to pay off Hillary Superdelegates, committed caucus fraud to steal the primary from Hillary and he continues to covers up and lie about his past and corrupt associations. What more do I need to cast my vote against him!

#184 TexasTigress on 10.20.08 at 11:36 am

I think the API thing is nothing more than a deliberate ‘false scent’ thrown out to take people’s focus off of all of the valid and proven instances of corruption in this campaign … I hope I’m wrong , but …

#185 MKfromLA on 10.20.08 at 11:37 am

I AM A DEMOCRAT AND I WON’T VOTE FOR OBAMA. I am a middle-class gay white woman not far from retirement age, living for 26 years with my partner who is black. Neither of us support Obama; both of us are lifelong democrats and have NEVER EVER voted for a republican. In 1984 we both supported Jesse Jackson in the California primary and voted for Walter Mondale in the general election.

Early in the primary season we considered voting for Clinton or Obama. We supported Clinton before the California primary because
– Health Care: Clinton proposed a well defined plan for universal coverage, and her track record on this issue goes back to her days as First Lady
– Iraq war: we have always opposed the Iraq war and agreed with Clinton’s plan for withdrawal from Iraq
– We looked at her website and agree with her position & proposals on most other issues.

We rejected Obama before the California primary because
– We looked at his website to get a sense of his accomplishments, positions & proposals. His accomplishments pretty much boiled down to “I supported…” and his only real claim to leadership was his speech against the Iraq war.
– Examination of each of his positions & proposals boiled down to – - – restating the issue and asserting that he would solve the problem. On every topic there was an ALARMING LACK OF specifics or track record.
– We live in Los Angeles, a few miles from Occidental College which Obama attended. Our friends are local active Dems who told us they were concerned about his electability because of rumors that he actually sold drugs while a student at Occidental. Our friends thought this allegation would become the October surprise that would keep the Dems out of the white house once again.

On November 4th we won’t vote for Obama because …
– Obama supported the disenfranchisement of Florida & Michigan democrats (where Clinton won) until the super-delegates put him over the top; then he supported a backroom deal that gave him just enough delegates to reach the delegate total threshold.
– Clinton won the popular vote in the swing states & the big states. Obama won the majority of caucus states where there was repeated complaints of coercion & fraud. Obama continued his pattern of coercion & election fraud during the Democratic Convention in Denver where no roll call vote occurred.
– Obama appears to be completely comfortable with voter disenfranchisement as long as it benefits him. THIS IS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY; THIS IS NOT WHAT DEMOCRATS BELIEVE IN.
– Obama’s pattern of reversals on important national issues (NAFTA, FISA, IRAQ WAR etc…) reveal that he has no personal commitment to democratic fundamentals.
– His lies about his true relationship with persons of low character such as Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Franklin Raines… on & on & on.
– He has a pattern of using people who support him early, then discarding them as soon as he’s attained the next rung on his political ladder.
– His only claim to public service is his “community organizing” which is really nothing more than voter registration and generating funding for groups which benefits his political aspirations, as we see today in his ACORN connection.

Looking forward to November 5th, we believe that an Obama presidency would be DANGEROUS because…
– Obama has no democratic coat-tails; he believes that all donations should come through him and he should pick the Democrats for down-ticket nominees. If a President Obama proposes to take the country in a wrong direction, where will legitimate opposition come from within the party?
– Journalists have abandoned their duties to fact check and report fairly. If journalists have sold their souls in the primaries, will there be any investigative reporting of possible White House improprieties?
– While Obama speaks to all the democratic issues that I care about, I have no idea what he would actually do.
– He is steadfastly non-transparent as evidenced by his refusal to provide the documents that would prove he is a natural born US citizen, refusing to provide documents on his educational & medical history. Are we electing a president or a monarch?
– He scorns the rules of fair play that the rest of us submit to.

I believe he is willing & capable of doing anything he thinks is best for him, regardless of the law or the truth.

#186 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 11:37 am

So.. API is coming out with something 1600 norwegian time? It’s now after 1750:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=187
..where is it?

#187 PumaDuma on 10.20.08 at 11:38 am

Iwill NOT Vote for Obama for one encompassing reason:

Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen and is ineligible under the Constitution A2 for the presidency.

also:

Obama is beyond Socialism. He is a Fascist and intends on promoting fascism on our way of life.

#188 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:43 am

more youtube fun, ht hillbuzz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-hFEjd8zI&eurl=http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/

#189 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 11:43 am

I will not vote for Obama simply because he is a liar, unqualified and further, I will not reward the DNC for the rigged nomination.

Also, just returned home. Has this been posted? I wish Ed Hale would stay out of all this. I basically quit listening to his blog talk radio as he always has a scoop that will bring Obama down. Anyway, I see Phil Berg will represent the African Press.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/

#190 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 11:43 am

#171 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 11:23 am
Just slapped my two cents in on it.
omgiamgoingnuts – cindie is my screen name.
You’re doing great!

#191 scarlet on 10.20.08 at 11:44 am

LATEST E FROM OBAMA

Friend —

My wife Jill is an extraordinary woman.

Jill’s passion has always been education, and even during the campaign she’s been teaching class during the week and joining me on the trail on the weekends. But this week, she also found some time to go to campaign headquarters and call voters in crucial battleground states.

Jill has always had a great time talking to potential supporters, and I’m sure her calls brought Barack and me a few votes closer to victory.

Can you do the same?

Watch this video of my wife making calls, see how easy it is, and then join her and tens of thousands of volunteers across the country by making calls from your own home:

With the conventions and the debates behind us, this election is now in your hands.

Reaching out to swing voters by making these calls is one of the most powerful ways to make a difference right now.

No matter how many rallies Barack and I hold or speeches we give, supporters like you talking to fellow voters one-on-one is the way we’re going to win this election.

Get your list of supporters today and give them a call right from your own home:

http://IL.barackobama.com/n2nIL

Thanks for everything you’re doing,

Joe

P.S. — Can’t make calls this weekend? Sign up to make calls for the campaign later this week.

#192 indy on 10.20.08 at 11:45 am

I did some research and found an Ed Hale (this may be him). He is a Hillary supporter, who is now supporting McCain because of what the DNC did to her. Sound familiar?

Here’s his website:

http://www.hcsfjm.com/about.html

#193 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 11:45 am

#179 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:32 am
I’m moving to NC!
YES..they get it!

#194 kat in your hat on 10.20.08 at 11:46 am

You know what sucks. The republicans have called all democrats socialists. It’s like the boy who cried wolf.

I like some bit of socialism. I don’t like tyranny and hate via “change.” I can’t even remotely relate to these Obots…so hypnotized by him. They are like the generations before them who got duped into horrible societies. Some people are just gullible…they are simply fools. Missing the internal BS detector. So easily seduced…it’s pathetic to me.

Ah well, I’m off to wack. Be back later.

#195 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 11:46 am

#192 indy on 10.20.08 at 11:45 am
Yes that is Ed Hale and he did support Hillary and now supports McCain. Why do you ask? And yes that is his website.

#196 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 11:47 am

Current time in Norway

http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=187

#197 rosebud on 10.20.08 at 11:48 am

I will NOT vote for Barak Obama, because I don’t trust him. The shady dealings of the DNC have not helped the Dem. candidate, in this PUMA’s eyes.

#198 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 11:53 am

I could never vote for an obviously socialist, narcissistic, pathological liar as president of these United States I love! He has all the ingredients of a Hitleresque dictator and I do not intend to contribute in any way to condemning our children and grandchildren to living in the USSA (United Socialist States of America).

He (and his not so lovely wife) have continually preached about how they intend to “spread the wealth around” , “share bigger pieces of the pie” with those who did not earn it, or redistribute the wealth. Those statements are NOTHING BUT socialist rhetoric, and are causing investors and businesses to doubt our economy. There is much evidence (from no less than the Wall Street Journal) that CEO’s and investors are pulling out of the markets in fear of an Obama presidency.

His narcissism is obvious in his “Obama One” air chariot (with the American flag removed and replaced with his rising sun emblem); his faux presidential seal, the children singing “heil bama” and teenagers marching and chanting that he’s the “Alpha and Omega” which my Bible refers to as Jesus, his joking that he was not born in a manger….he’s actually superman born on Krypton; his tour as “citizen of the World” (on my tax dollars no less); his dismissive and mocking behavior to anyone or anything that refuses to bow down and worship him; this list is endless…

His lies are many and well documented, the most important being the mounting evidence that he was actually born in Kenya and is not even an American citizen therefore disqualifying him to run as president. The fact that he is covering up a wealth of lies by openly REFUSING release of medical records, education records, and birth records (undoubtedly for the SIMPLE reason they will reveal the truth of his foreign birth and citizenship); he has lied repeatedly about his platform… it is referred to as flip flopping but it is really outright lying to campaign on one set of rhetoric and then continually vote the opposite; he has lied about his relationship to admitted domestic terrorist Bill Ayers (shifting the details of his story as necessary to try to save face– just like a child caught with his hand in the cookie jar!), same for Rev. Wright, Bernardine Dohrn, Tony Rezko, Raila Odinga, Louis Farrakan, Rev. Michael Pfleger, ACORN, Rashid Khalidi, Larry Sinclair and SOOOO many others. (Google any one of these names w/ the term obama and just see for yourself).

His obvious and outright hatred for women; his cunning and insidious playing of the race card in unabashed effort to stir up tension and divide the American nation for his own gain.

There is so much more but these are a few of the most important to me as a voter.

Barack Obama….

Misogyny, socialism,
Racial tensions, National Insecurity….

NOT the CHANGE we were hoping for!

Pass it on if this is not the change you want for America.

#199 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 11:53 am

Bernanke gives nod to more government stimulus

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_bi_ge/bernanke

Yeya, slap another bandaid on it…that’ll fix it. Democrats are just such blithering IDIOTS!!!

#200 LeeinUSA on 10.20.08 at 11:53 am

Men’s Health Magazine (Collector’s Edition cover)

Check out the cover of this month’s Men’s Health Magazine.

It is the 20th anniversary collector’s edition.

I like the part about “20 heros of health and fitness” listing Obama first, then Tiger Woods, then Lance Armstrong.

What an insult to Lance Armstrong, who fought back from horrible cancer!!!

Obama the smoker, former (?) drug user!

You can email the magazine here.
MensHealth@rodale.com

#201 pumasupporter on 10.20.08 at 11:54 am

194 kat in your hat, the problem with socialism is this. Socialism is a perfect idea that needs perfect people to run it. Because with an uber-strong federal government, that makes the people more vulnerable, not less. So that means that whoever is in control can’t be tempted by power, greedy, arrogant, or otherwise tyrannical. If they are, they would be in the position to do some serious damage because they control everything. Imagine Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi controlling a socialist government. Capitalism isn’t perfect but it is the fairest system created to date. Socialism is a better idea on paper but it doesn’t work as well in real life.

As far as crying wolf about former Democrat socialists, let’s be honest. McGovern, Dukaksis, and Obama are all socialists. The only Democratic candidates that weren’t socialists were Clinton and Carter (he became a socialist after he left office.) Kerry and Gore leaned socialist but Obama makes them look like Ronald Reagan.

#202 TerryDo on 10.20.08 at 11:56 am

171 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 11:23 am HELP, HELP all pumas

im in deep shit at this place

http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=14339

help me out here
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Just stated my opinion on this blog. I hope others go and state their personal opinions also…

#203 MKfromLA on 10.20.08 at 11:57 am

#37 Hillgirl – go to Google images and search for Obama pictures that way. There are tons.

#204 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 11:57 am

#168 murphy

hoo-eeee! This guy is MAD!
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Great clip Murph!!! I sent it to Drudge. Wake up America!!!!

#205 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 11:58 am

I got my ballot in the mail yesterday. Oc course, I wont be voting for BO, and I may not vote at all because I believe BO will win the same way he got the nomination; doesn’t matter how people vote at all.
I haven’t been coming in here as much the last couple days because, no matter how it’s disguised, this election and campaign is all about hate. It rubs off. Overwhelms me and affects my usefulness in the world. God knows there are other thing in this world that are as important if not more so. There are people hungry, homeless and desperately crying out for real help to change their lives. And neither major party gives a shit about them.
K, I gotta go. Have a nice……

#206 Gogandalf on 10.20.08 at 12:00 pm

#192 INDY – I keep getting emails for some reason from Ed Hale – always have deleted them – I thought that he had a radio program that always gave wrong information and hope for us – that turned sour – wasn’t one of the issues about the superdelegate petition -

#207 indy on 10.20.08 at 12:01 pm

About 10 minutes I read an article about the API article on Michelle’s audiotapes on RCP reader articles.

Then I read another article and went back to the API article to see how many votes it had and it vanished.

It seems RCP pulled it. I wonder why.

Maybe there’s more to this story than we think?

Thou doth protest too much? His campaign may be doing it behind the scenes to the MSM.

#208 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 12:01 pm

mountainsong:
not voting is a vote for obama. It DOES matter. Please reconsider and vote MCCAIN.

#209 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:02 pm

LOL A young kid,student, maybe 25, told me that Socialism is the only answer to all the worlds problems. You shoulda seen the look on his face when I asked him how come it’s never worked out before.

#210 jamesinseattle on 10.20.08 at 12:02 pm

I am a life-long Demorcat and will NOT vote for Obama because:

1. He is a liar. (from Wright to Ayers to his background and on and on)
2. He is a racist against whites. (support me or you’re a racist)
3. He has divided and destroyed the Democratic Party. (18 million TRUE Dems support Clinton – his supporters are NOT Dems)
4. His supporters are vile, immature, hateful and uneducated. (violence, misogyny, afraid to look at the truth about Obama)
5. He has ZERO executive experience. (from one job to the next with no accomplishments)
6. He flip flops on every issue to accomodate whoever he is speaking to (FISA, Faith-based intitiatives, etc).
7. He is an elitist snob (we don’t need you gun slinging, bible thumping, poor folk)
8. His campaign is one giant hypocrisy (Change you can believe in to Change we need? More like nothing “change” about him except if elected our taxes will be higher and the extreme liberal left will control the country.)

For these and many other reasons, I pray that Obama falls hard on November 4 and that his supporters are purged from the Democratic party. The party of my family, and of all Americans of all races and classes.

#211 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:03 pm

Idiots. Democrats are just IDIOTS.

#212 pumasupporter on 10.20.08 at 12:03 pm

209 mountainsong, lol his head probably went on overload. Socialism is great on paper, but no one on this earth can be trusted with that much power.

#213 pumasupporter on 10.20.08 at 12:04 pm

211 mountainsong, all Democrats aren’t socialists. It’s these new Democrats. This is not the JFK or FDR party. MoveOn.org paid for this party and now they run it.

#214 Bella-Me on 10.20.08 at 12:05 pm

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud to vote, Republican.

This democrat or should I say, now Independent will NOT vote for Obama for all the same reasons all the posts prior to mine have shared. It’s obvious we all have the same feelings, beliefs and reasons no matter which way we say them.

Since you all have listed most of my reasons for not voting democrat in this election, the one reason I will proudly state for myself is this…..

I am a Catholic and Obama’s policies, voting record and stand on abortion and refusing to help babies born from botched abortions because it may interfere with the mother’s original choice to abort this baby, solidified me to vote McCain/Palin. Once a baby has entered this world it is entitled to its own rights seperate from its mother and NO longer should be denied medical assistance due to the choice of its mother, regardless of any person’s belief or position on when life begins.

Outside the womb there is NO argument…it is a life, it is a human being, it is an entity beyond the womb!

NO ONE has the right to deny that baby medical help.

#215 Mary Gallegos on 10.20.08 at 12:05 pm

This I copied from the website Countusout. This idea of BO has really serious implications. I sent a copy of this to Greta on Fox. Please PUMAs send your emails to Greta and ask her to cover this. Countusout has a video of BO talking about this civilian army. Sorry for the long post, but every sentence here is important.

About Obama’s / Alinsky’s Civilian National Security Force
by Joseph Farah, World Net Daily

The pieces are coming together.

We’re getting a more complete picture of Barack Obama’s draconian plans to create a domestic army of radical extremists promoting bigger and more intrusive government.

The plan is to create a boot camp for community agitators – paid for by you, the U.S. taxpayer.

Investor’s Business Daily deserves credit for putting together the elaborate jigsaw puzzle. I merely saw the smoke. IBD discovered the fire. But for reference, you will want to read about what I found previously regarding Obama’s calls for a “civilian national security force.”

It seems Obama was a founding member of a group called Public Allies in 1992. In 1993, he resigned before his wife, Michelle, took over as executive director of the Chicago chapter.

This little-known, but well-funded, band of taxpayer-supported social misfits will, according to IBD, serve as the centerpiece of his “Universal Voluntary Public Service” program.

“Universal voluntary?” Isn’t that an oxymoron? Yes, but just consider the moron who is advocating it.

“Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas,” write the editorialists for IBD. “They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ’social change.’”

The “Obama Youth” will get a monthly stipend of $1,800, plus paid health and child care, plus a $4,725 grant after their “service” for future education or school loan payoffs.

But this isn’t just a make-work program.

IBD says the “real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about ’social change’ through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation – the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul ‘The Red’ Alinsky.”

The group boasts that graduates of the program are more than twice as likely as other young people to “engage in protest activities.” Isn’t that wonderful? That’s the real purpose – using your tax dollars to foment extremist political clashes, furthering the reach of Big Government into the lives of all of us.

The government already pays about half the bill for Public Allies through Bill Clinton’s AmeriCorps program. Obama seeks to fund it at levels equal to the U.S. Defense Department – close to $500 billion annually.

This is what he meant when he said: “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the military.”

IBD concludes: “The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military – and stick American taxpayers with the bill.”

What else is there to say?

Such a program would fundamentally change the character of America – possibly forever.

Someone should ask Obama, who claims to be a legal scholar, where he finds such a program authorized among the enumerated powers of the Constitution.

Now that would be an entertaining question and answer for some intrepid member of the press.

Personally, I won’t hold my breath waiting for anyone with access to be so bold.

Remember what programs like this are about. They are about empowering government to take more control over your life. They are about limiting your freedom. They are about picking your pocket. They are about changing the way you think by coercion. They are about making you uncomfortable being an American. They are about total power – and never letting go.

We’ve seen programs like this before – in Hitler’s Germany, Mussolini’s Italy, Stalin’s Soviet Union and Mao’s China.

Never again.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74643

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#216 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 12:07 pm

#150 michelle47

What an eloquent and powerful statement!

#217 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:07 pm

FANTASTIC PIECE IN AMERICAN THINKER ON ACORN AND CAUCUS FRAUD – The Writer mentions Dems and Lynette and Hillbuzz. Check it out and leave a comment. The author, Kyle-Anne Shiver is a good person who’s working tirelessly like the rest of us to expose Obama:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/stealing_the_presidency_an_oba.html

Oh, and by the way, the issues raised in this piece are one of many reasons why I don’t support Obama. (More on that in another post.)

#218 prplvette85 on 10.20.08 at 12:07 pm

I have not been able to read all the blogs yesterday or today but I got an email from Will Bower saying the Just say no deal has been taken off of facebook. It looks like oiwillnothaveanyoneagainstmeontheinternet is busy at work scrubbing away.

#219 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 12:08 pm

this API…
does anyone know anything about them?
are they a legit outfit and not some variant of the
“nigerian scam”?

#220 Susan5 on 10.20.08 at 12:09 pm

I was a Democrat who became an Independent in July and here are the reasons I will never vote for BHO
He does not respect our flag, our National Anthem, the Pledge of Allegiance, changed his plane’s symbol, abortion – letting living, breathing late-term babies just die, (reminds me of the Nazis), Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayers ( I remember how violent the Weathermen were), disrespect for our soldiers when he did his Red-Carpet tour of Iraq and didn’t have the time to talk with the soldiers and couldn’t visit our wounded because his entourage wasn’t allowed to come – What kind of caring American is that? I live in CT by the sub base and the navy guys I have spoken to can’t stand him, His speech in Germany next to the monument Hitler put up: thank goodness the German Chancellor who is female(yeah!) told him what she thinks of his shannanigans, at least someone didn’t drink the Kool-Aid there, His Health Care Plan and saying that a child coming to the ER for an asthmatic attack shouldn’t be hospitalized. It’s wasting a Bed!!! Even my 14 yr old daughter who has asthma was astounded and said “But his own daughter has asthma and was hospitalized as a baby!” Murphy, you produced another PUMA. She hung one of Freddie’s flyers on her bedroom door and is thinking of maybe going into Politics in addition to Animal Science.
Going on, not knowing is he’s an American citizen, none of his college, law, and other records available to the public, his disdain for women, disrespect for Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, disdain for small-town, gun-owners, hunting, bitter? folks. Hey, that’s some of my family and they live in Washington state near Palin country and served their country during WW2 and Vietnam.
ACORN, America wake-up voting is a vital foundation of this country, his foreign policy which he knows nothing about except to talk to hostile leaders who hate us with no conditions, pull support from Israel and favor Arab nations who support terrorists: Jesse Jackson (of NY Hymietown Jews fame) isn’t one of my favorites but he does speak the facts and that his family is friends of MO leads me to believe that he is telling it like it is.
Obama’s henchmen who are running his campaign. I shudder to think of any of them near the White House besides BO and MO.
He will bankrupt this country in no time. He throws money around and the amount he has to campaign with is unending. Where is it all coming from? He has no connection with the average person and mocks anyone who question him or has a different viewpoint (Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin) His supporters are cult-like and nasty. I met some when I volunteered for Hillary. They are scarey like their leader whose eyes are cold and his expressions have no warmth to them.
I could go on but I’ll end with who can trust this person with our military arsenal which includes nuclear weapons? This alone makes my blood run cold.

#221 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 12:11 pm

we must understand that he is not a socialist, he is communist stalismist- maoist, spread of wealth, indoctrination of children, militia, etc
at the present time there are various socialists governments in europe some are doing a good job , others no so , but above all they have full respect of democracy
they all got to office thru clean elections, and nothing of the trash that is going on in our country

#222 liloleme on 10.20.08 at 12:12 pm

I’m an American. I believe in my country, its constitution and its values. I cannot vote for Barack Obama for POTUS because it goes against practically everything I believe in.

#223 TerryDo on 10.20.08 at 12:12 pm

205 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 11:58 am I got my ballot in the mail yesterday. Oc course, I wont be voting for BO, and I may not vote at all because I believe BO will win the same way he got the nomination; doesn’t matter how people vote at all.

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Mountainsong, if you do not vote, for whom ever you chose, you silence your own voice.

Do you remeber the expression the Silent Majority.

The Silent Majority has the loudest voice! Use your voice Mountainsong…

Love and peace resides within you already, it is yours to use or to silence.

#224 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:13 pm

208 elect2009 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeya! Do you have any idea how many times I’ve already heard that before????

#225 name-lost on 10.20.08 at 12:13 pm

This is off topic but I just got a letter from NBRA.

Hello, Thanks for the e-mail. I greatly appreciate your sharing your experiences and concerns about Sen. Barack Obama. We as Americans must do all that we can to prevent him from being elected as our president. I agree with you that it was a sad day when Gen. Colin Powell endorsed Obama. Unfortunately, Gen. Powell is also a socialist at heart and has turned a blind eye to the harm that socialism has caused communities and nations around the world. Together we must continue to pray for our nation and encourage all of our family and friends to go to the polls on election day. Thanks again for writing and I hope that you will please stay in touch.

Warm regards, Frances RiceChairmanNational Black Republican Association

#226 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 12:14 pm

storytellers… i agree obama is a socialist, but obama is not a maoist or a stalinist.. ..he’s not even a communist

#227 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 12:14 pm

GIRD YOUR LOINS, FOLKS!!!

WORLD CRISIS FORECAST BY THE GAFFER

‘Say-it-ain’t-so-Joe’ Biden is guaranteeing a major test of Obama by the world leaders who hate us — during the first six months of His presidency.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

YIKES!! WTF happened to The One’s ability to bring the world together for a great big group hug and a rousing chorus of Kumbaya?

#228 TerryDo on 10.20.08 at 12:14 pm

Ciao for now, must go and do my workout, this site is addictive…

#229 liloleme on 10.20.08 at 12:15 pm

oh, mountain. Please don’t be so discouraged. You’re playing right into the hands of a BHO campaign strategy. “Wear them down so much they just don’t give a shit and give up.” I know it’s been tough – and isn’t over, yet.

You can do it. I have faith.

#230 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:16 pm

ANOTHER FANTASTIC PIECE BY KYLE-ANNE SHIVER IN PAJAMAS MEDIA:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/made-my-obama-friends-list-now-checking-it-twice/

(Oh, and btw, the piece articulates a few more of the reasons I won’t vote for Obama.)

#231 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:16 pm

ANOTHER FANTASTIC PIECE BY KYLE-ANNE SHIVER IN PAJAMAS MEDIA:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/made-my-obama-friends-list-now-checking-it-twice/

(Oh, and btw, the piece articulates a few more of the reasons I won’t vote for Obama.)

#232 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:16 pm

ANOTHER FANTASTIC PIECE BY KYLE-ANNE SHIVER IN PAJAMAS MEDIA:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/made-my-obama-friends-list-now-checking-it-twice/

(Oh, and btw, the piece articulates a few more of the reasons I won’t vote for Obama.)

#233 indy on 10.20.08 at 12:16 pm

#195 2009: I was curious because Ed Hale sent an email to William Bower about the API story.

I don’t know from this one Ed Hale’s website if he is one and the same, as the Ed Hale who is the radio host. Maybe, maybe not.

#234 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:16 pm

omg
omg
omg
please delete 2out of 3

#235 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:17 pm

223 TerryDo Oh, please…. No vote, is as much a vote as putting a mark on a piece of paper. It means, “None of the above.” And the Silent Majority is called that because they stay silent.
You are right~~love and peace DO reside within me…without any help from government at all.

#236 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 12:18 pm

Do You want to make PUMAs famous and speak your voice??

How are you “Joe the Plumber”?
Tell us in 30 seconds…

We want you to tell us how you are “Joe the Plumber” and why you’re supporting John McCain and Sarah Palin in thirty seconds. You could even see your video as an official McCain TV ad.

By now, “Joe the Plumber” is a household name and has become a symbol of Barack Obama’s plan to “spread the wealth around.” During a recent campaign event in Toledo, Ohio, “Joe the Plumber” asked a simple question and got a surprising answer from the Democratic nominee. When he asked why Barack Obama’s tax plan was going to punish him for working hard and living the American Dream, Barack Obama responded, “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

http://www.johnmccain.com/#tab1

#237 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 12:18 pm

lilo… i agree..the MSM has been very effective at making the public feel resistance to obama is futile..
I despise the MSM deeply more than even now.. they are worse than obama they are evil and extremely dangerous..

#238 liloleme on 10.20.08 at 12:21 pm

osaka, yes. I really get irritated when I hear MSM alluding to the fact that it’s over – that BO has it in the bag.

I, for one, refuse to hear that message.

#239 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 12:21 pm

#224 mountainsong — you know I love ya’ and I understand if you can’t do this today, but please DON’T post discouragement to those of us who believe there is still time to save our America. You have done such outstanding work for the cause, and it is easy to get discouraged if you look at all we’re up against, but that is part of their plan…to make it look hopeless so we quit trying. I WILL NOT PLAY THEIR GAME! For today this is still the America where voters have a voice, and voter fraud has been finally brought to the forefront…much too late but late is better than never. We have made a huge difference and will continue to do so. Rest today Mountainsong. Petition our creator for help and mercy. We will fight on. There’s always the possibility we may lose no matter how hard we fight, but if we don’t fight there’s NO HOPE of winning. So fighting is the only choice!

#240 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:21 pm

229 liloleme I am playing into God’s hands, only. I’m not discouraged at all. Voting in this election is like deciding whether I prefer to be hung with a new rope or an old one. But they are both still ropes.
Politics, like religion and economics are for those people who enjoy playing God.

#241 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 12:23 pm

#240 mountain… I agree with you to a certain extent… but I have to admit I have a hard time picturing Palin “enjoying Playing God”….

#242 liloleme on 10.20.08 at 12:23 pm

back to work, now. I have a ton of insulation calling my name!

Keep it ‘tween the lines, PUMAs. I’m talking – LOTS – today to my peeps.

#243 murphy on 10.20.08 at 12:23 pm

an interesting insight from email:

“Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as
_presidential_election/democrats_favor_spreading_wealth_around_gop_disagrees
> “Joe the Plumber,” is viewed favorably by 44% and unfavorably by 41%. He earns his best reviews from middle-income voters and entrepreneurs.

Now I would venture to say that those that hate him are democrats and those that like him are voting McCain. THIS in and of itself might be a better gauge of the polls honesty wise than the presidential polls. If so, it seems good for McCain.”

#244 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:24 pm

#239 notfollowinthepiedpiper STOP!!! I am not going to allow you to use the word “discouragement” and me in the same sentence. I am alot of things, but discouraged isn’t one of them. And you are right. I have done my part, and then some, and I will continue, but not under your direction.

#245 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 12:25 pm

#243 murphy

I would venture to say you are 100% right :-)

WOOO HOOO!

#246 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 12:25 pm

E-Mail from John McCain:
How are you “Joe the Plumber”?
Tell us in 30 seconds…

We want you to tell us how you are “Joe the Plumber” and why you’re supporting John McCain and Sarah Palin in thirty seconds. You could even see your video as an official McCain TV ad.

By now, “Joe the Plumber” is a household name and has become a symbol of Barack Obama’s plan to “spread the wealth around.” During a recent campaign event in Toledo, Ohio, “Joe the Plumber” asked a simple question and got a surprising answer from the Democratic nominee. When he asked why Barack Obama’s tax plan was going to punish him for working hard and living the American Dream, Barack Obama responded, “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

JoeIn that brief exchange, the American people got to see what this campaign is all about … a choice between honoring the hard work of everyday Americans like “Joe the Plumber” and increasing taxes to “spread the wealth.” In these tough economic times, there is no doubt that John McCain and Sarah Palin stand firmly on the side of hardworking “everyday Joes” who understand the value of honest work and the American Dream.

That’s why we want to hear from you and share your story with the American public. It’s simple … make an ad telling us why you are “Joe the Plumber” in 30 seconds and we’ll put the best ad on the air as a TV ad.

Share your story of living the American Dream, working hard, or owning a small business to tell America why you’re standing with John McCain and Sarah Palin. Click here today to learn more and submit your video before Friday, October 24th.

Then help us spread the word about this exciting opportunity – tell your friends to visit JohnMcCain.com/Joe to submit their own video and share their story.

Join Our Team JohnMcCain.com Send to Friends

#247 liloleme on 10.20.08 at 12:26 pm

Well, Mountain. Look at it this way, then:

An old rope it more likely to fray giving way for an entirely new form of hanging! LOL!

ok, really gone, now.

#248 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 12:26 pm

#244
whatever….

#249 GoSarahGo on 10.20.08 at 12:26 pm

OK, I am a Democrat who is not voting for Obama because:

1. He is a Socialist
2. He stole the dem nomination from HRC
3. His thug-like minions crush all dissent
4. The despicable attacks on Gov. Palin
5. Ties to terrorists, socialists and America-hating preachers
6. Lack of executive experience
7. Cannot admit when he is wrong (i.e. The Surge)
8. Ties to ACORN and voter-fraud
9. His gaffe-meister choice for VP
10. Overall problems with women…”Hey Sweetie,” HRC, SP

#250 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 12:27 pm

This is a gold mine! Thanks Murphy!

PERFECT for extracting info and ideas for the mass emailing list I am working on. :lol:

#251 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:28 pm

247 liloleme You’re funny.

248 notfollowinthepiedpiper You’re funny, too.

#252 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 12:29 pm

I’m getting more and more suspicious of this API tape about Michelle….. they put off and put off and put off… then they give a time- NOT for release of the tape, mind you, but for an UPDATE only- at 16.00 norwegian time, and it’s way past that now. So… I’m beginning to think they are just stringing us along here. And I wonder how honest Berg is being with us either, considering he’s involved with them now, too…

#253 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 12:31 pm

246 ladyhawkke there we go – great minds?

#254 michelina on 10.20.08 at 12:31 pm

I was a Hillary Rapid Responder, and NO one would stand witness to the “hatred” as we did with obama’s campaign and supporters, like we can.

I always said it was “spoon-fed” hate, that drove these supporters so vicously against Hillary.

The disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida.

The fraud and corruption of the Cauceses.

The armstronging of the Delegates, they vote for “that one” or they lose their job and funding. They have anyway, it’s Hillary who is fighting for the down-tickets.

The continued FLIP FLOPPING on promises in the primaries, that never came to TRUTH.

The continued”lies” and attacks launched by the DNC and Obama himself, from DAY one this election started, to the present day . EG…….Ayers, just a neighbor!!

The inexcusable, abhorrant treatment of our Empowered woman in this country, whether Hillary or Sarah. Not only from DNC, OBAMA campaign and the media, but also other “woman” tanding idly by, while every inch of their character is being mutilated and humiliated. EG……..Gloria Steinham——-SHAME ON YOU!!!!

The Denial of the DNC (Pelosi)——-holding any responsibility to the Economic meltdown. We were better off three years ago (economicall), when we didn’t have a MAJORITY in the CONGRESS and SENATE, with Pelosi and Dodd and Reid at the HELM.

Obama’s ties to AYERS, WRIGHT, FARRAKAN and MOSTLY
ODINGA!!!!

LIES, LIES and more LIES, ATTACKS, ATTACKS and MORE ATTACKS————RACIST, PHYSICAL< VERBAL—–the hate has always been there, and has not stopped.

and FINALLY and MOST IMPORTANTLY: JOE THE PLUMBER.

It took me a LONG TIME to go to McCAIN/PALILN.

Issues are one thing, TRUST, NATIONAL SECURITY and FREEDOM———are the MOST IMPORTANT in this election.

#255 sunnypuma on 10.20.08 at 12:32 pm

This is one democrat that is voting republican. I have not and will not drink the kool-aid. You heard of Joe the plumber well we have a business also. I’ll refer to my husband as Audio Bob. Audio Bob has a small business the he and his wife grew from nothing. Audio Bob has 3 employees. If Obama has his way Audio Bob’s net worth or gross on the business per year is going to be ridiculously taxed. So Audio Bob will have to eliminate 2 employees to be able to run business and pay the taxes. How is this suppose to help people. Honestly! If Audio Bob has to give his money to the government so they in return can give it to the people who don’t pay taxes as a hand out, Audio Bob will go out of business. nobama

#256 Pm on 10.20.08 at 12:32 pm

I can’t add anymore than my puma friends have already said, Can I just say All of the Above?

Side note. Colin Powell also vouches for the character of Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska. Nuff said

#257 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 12:33 pm

Speakin’ My Mind At this point I believe we need to be positive and see what we can do today. If someone is compacent in their own antipathy or aversion to voting, I think it would be better to look for those “undeciders” or “leaners”. IMHO

#258 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 12:34 pm

i think by now it will 9 o 10 at night in norway

#259 DancesWithPumas on 10.20.08 at 12:34 pm

252 KarenWI

Good realization, true or not. The API thing will be whatever it turns out to be. Best to not hang ones hopes of defeating oselectee on any one issue, especially one that hasn’t materialied in any substantial way. It frees up your energy and attention to do things that are already realities.

#260 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 12:35 pm

#255 sunnypuma on 10.20.08 at 12:32 pm

Tell your story in 30 seconds to the McCain campaign (#246).

#261 just.words... on 10.20.08 at 12:36 pm

#157 W. Lotus

I really appreciated your comment and the insights you provided.

#262 Ario on 10.20.08 at 12:37 pm

good grief this is exactly why a brotha is always broke…my computer blew up and i just went and bought a new one…and i blame it That One and his henchmen!

#263 Ario on 10.20.08 at 12:37 pm

plus i had to reschedule my volunteer effort for mccain

#264 NoHillaryNoVote on 10.20.08 at 12:38 pm

kat in the hat – API stories

I’m with you – I’m not even following the African Press posts on here any more. We have so many concrete real issues we can present against BO that we don’t need to invest energy in a story that never seems to have any validity or proof.

I do sincerely appreciate the diligence of those PUMAs who are following the API website closely for updates. Let us know if anything real ever materializes. I am not criticizing you for tracking & sharing – I just don’t want you to get too invested in this as it may prove to never produce anything specific that others can view.
So please don’t put too much hope into this one as I would hate for you to be too disappointed. It’s like that old saying “if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is”.

Just because a story can be found all over the Internet doesn’t make it real or factual. We need to be real careful with this one. I think BO’s campaign & supporters are very good at inventing things in an effort to try to take McCain, Palin & their supporters off message and off the task at hand of reaching voters.

I agree that there is plenty for us to focus on where we have facts in hand to use as arguments against BO – like ACORN, BO’s proposed policies & how they will hurt America as well as BO’s ties to socialism.

If this API group ever really produces anything – then great we can look at it. But for now it just seems like some type of distraction (or someone’s effort to get people to send them money). I did my own research and I’m feeling uncomfortable about the legitimacy of this group. Seems like lots of talk but no action.

I’ve also been thinking it may be just an invented story that BO supporters planted with the hope it would be picked up and promoted widely on the Internet just so they can then turn around and accuse others of starting racist attacks against MO & BO.

For now – I’m with Kat in the hat – I choose to take a hands off approach on this one and not promote until there’s something tangible to report.

If I’m wrong – then I’ll be glad to see API’s proof when it’s released. But for now it’s a non-issue, I think.

BO supporters are very good at trying to distract McCain-Palin supporters because they don’t want us reaching out to the voters. Every time I see some big media blitz about some negative attack after McCain, Palin or one of their supporters, I immediately email the McCain campaign to ask that they not get sidetracked with defending themselves but instead ask them to stay on task with the issues that matter to voters the most.

#265 zephyr on 10.20.08 at 12:38 pm

ALL OF THE ABOVE ….PLUS condescension which I abhor. Nobama turned me off way back when with his “you’re likeable enough, Hillary” statement in an early debate.

#266 lilibet on 10.20.08 at 12:38 pm

It’s 6:37 PM in Norway!

#267 bellecat on 10.20.08 at 12:40 pm

*****PUMAs*****

If you haven’t got this, check it out.

http://countusout.wordpress.com/
* info on the API tapes.

http://mcpalinmavericks.wordpress.com/
* Audio tape of Bill Ayers.

#268 Ario on 10.20.08 at 12:41 pm

if i was like That One i would blame it on The Man…lol

#269 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 12:41 pm

PROMISES AND PAYOLA…. the saga continues.

Obama: Powell will have a role in administration
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/obama

#270 kevink on 10.20.08 at 12:41 pm

I’m a Democrat, and I’m NOT voting for Obama.

Unlike most of my fellow PUMAs, I was not a supporter of Hillary Clinton during the Democratic Primaries. While I have nothing against Hillary, I was attracted to a different candidate, one with both a unique background as well as a long history of service to his country. America would soon turn the page on a disastrous eight years under President Bush, I assumed, and I had picked the right person to steer our national recovery. My Democratic candidate of choice was Bill Richardson of New Mexico. Gov. Richardson had a depth of experience in various fields, in both the legislature and the executive, that I did not witness in the other candidates. He had spent more than a decade in Congress, was US Ambassador to the United Nations, served as Energy Secretary, and is currently the governor of New Mexico.

Unfortunately, as qualified as Gov. Richardson is, he did not campaign well. He is a short, fat man who struggled to stay on topic. On stage, he just could not show the competence and skill he was so accustomed to displaying in the office. Bill Richardson is no rock star. But then again, it was not his year anyway. The DNC party leaders had already chosen their candidate- Barack Obama- and were determined to install him as the nominee by hook or by crook. They permitted him to buy superdelegates with campaign donations; they allowed him to bus in supporters in order to take over local caucus meetings unfairly; they actually took delegates away from Sen. Clinton and appropriated them to Sen. Obama in order to pad his numbers. The fix was in.

I’m a Democrat, and I’m NOT voting for Obama.

The years of experience across broad policy areas that I had so respected in Gov. Richardson were completely lacking in Sen. Obama. Before beginning his Presidential campaign, Obama had put in fewer work days in the Senate than there are games in a Major League Baseball season. Prior to his barely contested election to the Senate, he had never served his country in any capacity. He served neither in the military nor in the Peace Corps. He was neither diplomat, nor doctor, nor teacher, nor law enforcement officer. His major accomplishments thus far had been to write two books about himself and to win a seat in the Illinois legislature by tossing other candidates off the ballot, (in good ol’ Chicago fashion). Oh yes, and he gave a very fine speech once, in 2004.

As much as I would like to return the presidency to Democratic hands after the Bush years, I cannot in good conscience vote for Sen. Obama. As my mother always told me, never get engaged to someone brand new while you’re still on the rebound. After having chosen my favored candidate Gov. Richardson because of his years of experience and service to America, I would be both a hypocrite and a mindless partisan lemming if I were now to vote for the inexperienced greenhorn Obama simply because he is registered with the same party as I. While I am wary of Gov. Palin’s lack of international exposure, I must be consistent in my search for an experienced and tested President, and thus I must cast my vote for Sen. McCain. While I do not share all of Sen. McCain’s social views, as a moderate Democrat my views on taxation and spending happen to correspond more readily with those of this moderate Republican than they ever will with the ultra-liberal Obama. To be sure, it is a difficult decision to support someone from another party. I fully concede that I may be wrong, but I also feel that the balance of evidence would support the notion that Sen. McCain is the more tested, experienced, moderate and bipartisan candidate.

It is unfortunate that I cannot voice my support for Sen. McCain openly. I am surrounded by Obama fans- people who are so cocksure that they have the right candidate that no examination of his beliefs, experience or merits is necessary. These folks are the type of smug, self-righteous partisans who claim to seek healing for the country, yet who participate in the most vile characterizations of conservatives, PUMAs, and anyone else who does not fall in lockstep alongside them. Like Obama in his 2004 speech, they speak of eliminating the red state/blue state divide, yet they deride rural and small-town voters as uneducated bumpkins. They claim openness to a multiplicity of ideas, yet they seek to shut down viewpoints other than their own. They rightfully decry Republican efforts to disenfranchise voters, yet they turn a blind eye to the abuses of ACORN, a group that may steal the election by diluting the actual vote count with absentee ballots from fake voters. My Facebook account regularly rings with comments about Palin’s purported ineptitude, or about small-town racism, or about Bush being evil. Rarely do I ever read a compelling argument as to why we should elect Sen. Obama. Rather, it is simply understood that he can do no wrong, while McCain and Palin represent all that is wrong and evil in this country and must be mocked ceaselessly. I rightfully fear being characterized as a racist for openly supporting McCain (or even for daring to question Obama). Funny how a supporter of the first Mexican-American candidate for US President can so quickly be regarded as a racist.

Perhaps we should expect nothing less from Obama’s supporters than what we have witnessed. This is the age of reality shows and instant feedback, where everyone is an expert on everything, and everybody gets to vote twelve times on their cell phone for their favorite singer or dancer. Indeed, Sen. Obama would be the American Idol president- chosen without sufficient information by people who can compare him and his song of change only to the previous chanteur, the tired and tinny-voiced Bush. Obama represents neither a comprehensive ideology, nor a life story of duty fulfilled. He is the product of a slick marketing campaign: a glorified state senator produced by the Chicago political machine, packaged as a do-all agent of change, and sold (hard!!!) by the media. He is the Nike Swoosh candidate, and he may just spirit away with this election.

I’m a Democrat, and I’m NOT voting for Obama.

#271 Ario on 10.20.08 at 12:43 pm

i mean when a puff of smoke shoots out ur hardrive u know u have problems:(

#272 indy on 10.20.08 at 12:43 pm

Obama wants an investigation of McCain and the Republicans over voter fraud. What a joke!

“People (Obama) in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-wants-mccain-investigated-over.html

Obama tries to throw up another smoke screen.

And Biden. Biden. Unbelievable! Obama picked him over Hillary, now he’s stuck with him. Biden has that “foot in mouth disease really bad.”

Also, that API story is still scrubbed from RCP. They’re magicians. It appeared, 10 minutes later, it disappeared.

Amazing!!

#273 Pookie on 10.20.08 at 12:44 pm

My brother who is in the tank for Nobama sent me this shit link today

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-odd-lies-15.html

#274 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 12:45 pm

lilibet
i just said because i thought it will be + or – as russia, but i see is w europe time

#275 Middle age female on 10.20.08 at 12:47 pm

So, both Hillary and Bill are in Fla today campaigning with/for BO. Isn’t that just peachy keen.

#276 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 12:48 pm

262 Ario At least you can afford to go out and buy a new one. :P

#277 Illinois Indy Woman on 10.20.08 at 12:48 pm

As a resident of the State of Illinois, living in a NW suburb of Chicago, I will not vote for Senator Obama for President because he does not have the experience or accomplishments to be honored with the trust of the highest office in America. His associations in Chicago with criminals and anti-americans are extemely troubling. I could not even vote to re-elect him as my Senator.

#278 jane-pa on 10.20.08 at 12:49 pm

Obama has a site to fight lies and smears. It has to be fixed as proof is laid out. So why is he not ans. the lawsuites on his being able to be pres. 4 states now have suites. I dont believe he can come up to being president.He will threaten violence but remember better with him not in power even for that.He has destroyed our party and devided the party .He has lied about all his intentions in beginning. Not good for our country. No bomma Not ever

#279 Hillgirl on 10.20.08 at 12:51 pm

#203 MK from LA: Thanks!

#280 jane-pa on 10.20.08 at 12:51 pm

I cannt stand watching Bill or Hillary working for him. Our country is in peril. If he cheats his way in will be disastorus. I cannt believe they dont see it.
He tried to buy pa. before from Hillary. Didnt work than wont now. Dems for McCain/Palin

#281 TEXS4HILLARY on 10.20.08 at 12:54 pm

HOWDY ALL! No worries early voting starts for Texas I believe today. I WILL BE VOTING ALL REPUBLICAN!!! THE Dems can stick that in their corn cob pick and smoke it. Many more I know will be doing the same. As far as the voter registration fraud in Texas done by ACORN have already been thrown out. Now why can’t Ohio do the same. CAN you say Secretary of State is a Democrat. OH BTW O has flip flopped again on drilling he now says he would condsider off shore. LIAR!!! I seen it on FNC this a.m. CHEER UP PEOPLE AND START TURNING THE REDS STATES TURNING BLUE BACK TO RED!! O CAN BE OUT SMARTED AT HIS OWN GAME!!! DO WHAT HE DOES BUT BETTER!!!! Put a freaking banner across your house and visit MCCAIN’s site the Republicans need tons of help. REMEMBER PALIN is more experienced than O will ever be she is commander and chief of the national guard. She has a lot of responsibility and I believe she will do a good job PERIOD!

#282 TEXS4HILLARY on 10.20.08 at 12:54 pm

oops “pipe” spell check LOL!

#283 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 12:55 pm

Greta’s great piece on obie and his crooks, Ties that Bind?
click on:

http://www.foxnews.com/

Then go to the right side of page and click on:
‘FNC looks at Sen. Obama ties’

#284 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:55 pm

Lifelong Dem.
Left the party and became an Independent this Spring.
Not voting for Obama.
Could write a laundry list (and have one), but will boil it down to one essential element:

Any person who sits in a church that spews such hateful, anti-Semitic rantings and that elevates the likes of Louis Farrakhan to great heights by honoring him with a Lifetime Achievement award, and who remains with that church, and who embraces the leader of that church as a mentor and father figure is NOT a person I could vote for to be President of the School Board, no less President of the United States. That issue alone speaks volumes. Surely there are countless extraordinary black Americans that deserving of being honored with a Lifetime Achievement award. The selection of Farrakhan is telling and not a good sign. Obama embraced his church and its teachings for 20 years.

That’s all I needed to know.

All the rest about him just makes it even worse. But, even without all the rest, my decision was made.

#285 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:55 pm

Lifelong Dem.
Left the party and became an Independent this Spring.
Not voting for Obama.
Could write a laundry list (and have one), but will boil it down to one essential element:

Any person who sits in a church that spews such hateful, anti-Semitic rantings and that elevates the likes of Louis Farrakhan to great heights by honoring him with a Lifetime Achievement award, and who remains with that church, and who embraces the leader of that church as a mentor and father figure is NOT a person I could vote for to be President of the School Board, no less President of the United States. That issue alone speaks volumes. Surely there are countless extraordinary black Americans that deserving of being honored with a Lifetime Achievement award. The selection of Farrakhan is telling and not a good sign. Obama embraced his church and its teachings for 20 years.

That’s all I needed to know.

All the rest about him just makes it even worse. But, even without all the rest, my decision was made.

#286 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 12:56 pm

#215 Mary Gallegos I sent that to all the Media and to John McCain

#287 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 12:57 pm

sorry
sorry (again)

#288 TEXS4HILLARY on 10.20.08 at 12:57 pm

FNC just said Hawii dropped their Universal Healthcare plan. They said it didn’t work.

#289 NoHillaryNoVote on 10.20.08 at 12:58 pm

I know this is off topic – and later tonight I will write about why I’m not voting for BO. But wanted to quickly share something I saw on tv today.

I don’t watch The View any more – especially after the way they blasted McCain & his wife when they were on the show.

But I happened to be flipping channels today and came across the show and Whoppi Goldberg (a BO supporter) was yelling her head off at the conservative member of the group who supports McCain. Whoppi was determined that everyone had to agree with her regarding what Colin Powell said. Her face looked so hateful and angry and she just seemed out of control. I didn’t watch for long – turned the channel. I muted the sound for a minute or two and simply watched her face – it was contorted in anger and hatred.

But I’m really surprised at Whoppi. She has in the past been attacked so many times for having views that did not match what others expected and so she knows first hand what it is like to be yelled at and to have accusations hurled at someone. As a black woman I had in the past admired the goals she achieved. But today I was shocked.

This campaign is bringing out such anger from BO supporters – that just isn’t passion – it’s ugly. I’m surprised that the network allows The View to continue this horrible bashing of McCain by the majority of that group on The View.

Just as MSNBC had to get a grip on the behavior of Matthews & that other obnoxious commentator – I think this network needs to get a grip on Whoppi. I’ve seen that Joy person from The View on Larry King spouting similar BO support and bashing McCain, and I always turn the channel – but at least she’s not yelling at the top of her lungs.

That’s not informative television – that’s more like Jerry Springer action.

I thought Barbara Walters was the lead on that show and had a background in news. She considers this stuff news or entertaining? It’s awful. All I heard Walters say was a Rodney King line “can’t we all get along” & “I’ll be glad when this election is over”.

Let’s see if any news media picks up on this yelling match like they did when Rosie ODonnell screamed at that same person – the conservative member of the group.

#290 indy on 10.20.08 at 12:58 pm

I love it! In Biden’s now infamous speech yesterday is this priceless gem:

“I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?’ We’re gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”

Senator Biden, oh no I won’t. If Obama and you get elected, I’ll be telling those who voted for you, “I told you so!!!”

#291 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 12:59 pm

did my civic duty today…
just voted and mailed out 6 california absentee ballots- my family votes the way i vote.. smile….
6 votes for mccain-palin + 10 others in my neigborhood i’ve convinced to vote mccain palin.. that’s 16 votes i’ve gave senator mccain… i wish him good luck on nevember 4th!!

#292 LandiPUMA on 10.20.08 at 12:59 pm


Did everyone see Hannity’s part 2 on BO’s radical associations last night?
Hannity went more deeply into Ayers, Rezko, ACORN, etc.

-> If you missed it, here it is on Youtube (it’s 1-hr long, in 6 parts)

Obama & Frriends: History of Radicalism
Volume 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ha_gxO3RYY&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_81156

(It’s a great link to spread around too!)

#293 Ario on 10.20.08 at 1:00 pm

mountain…i cant thats the prob…but mondays are my off day and knew i had to get to my puma babies…lol one of my fraternity brothers work at best buy….so i used his discount…and got a laptop for 600

#294 DancesWithPumas on 10.20.08 at 1:01 pm

As of today we have 14 days left until election day…
what are our plans for defeating Oracialquotaselectee today?

I mean, aside from those who have plans to continue using this political action blog as a social networking site by people who lack action and ideas, or using it to for endlessly self-promoting their personal non-PUMA goal related accomplishments, or for flirting, don’t count. (Besides, those behaviors are more suited for an aol type singles chat room.)

So where is our focus today?

#295 TEXS4HILLARY on 10.20.08 at 1:02 pm

In my opinion doing the mail in ballots are to risky and can be tampered with I would rather put it in the box myself.

#296 bellecat on 10.20.08 at 1:03 pm

I’m a Democrat and I will NOY vote for Obama.

He is a FRAUD.

He is a Liar.

He is an Opportunist.

He is an Egotistical.

Because he’s true upbringing out side the US, he is been using Third World politics.
Concealment,
intimidation,
division,
fraud,
bribery,
manipulation,
violence
and yes, Misogyny.

And the No. 1 issue and most important of all:
he is violating the Constitution because he is NOT a natural born citizen and KNOWINGLY, he is running for POTUS, which constitues a “CRIME”.
Subsequently, that makes Barack Obama: a criminal.

I do not want to see this IMPOSTOR in the White House and I feel very comfortable voting for true americans that love and serve their country; McCain and Palin.

#297 Ario on 10.20.08 at 1:03 pm

im trying to mentally get myself prepared if That One wins…and I already know Im going to have to end some friendships because I find it Very offensiv that any of my friends would vote for that one

#298 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:04 pm

dances… “So where is our focus today?”
..thats an easy one..
i suggest that everyone make it a goal to get a person to vote for mccain palin.. by any means necessary..
its a multiplier effect..

#299 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:05 pm

291 osaka

Awesome!!!

#300 bellecat on 10.20.08 at 1:05 pm

Oooops!

I will NOT vote for Barack Obama!

#301 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 1:05 pm

re: #252 and other related posts: I went lurking over to TD blog and…well…I’m really effing suspicious about the Berg lawsuit now. And the API story about Cruella(MO).

What if the Berg lawsuit is some kind of ploy to foment civil unrest amongst moderate-conservatives? I mean, let’s say the judge rules that Berg has no standing, wouldn’t some people be inspired to conclude that the govt is corrupt? Or that the judiciary is against the people?
And what would that lead to but calls for change, change, change….

Just a hypothesis which is slowly developing.
Need a long walk with plenty of fresh air.

#302 Ario on 10.20.08 at 1:06 pm

so biden inserts foot in mouth again saying slick will be tested if he wins

#303 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 1:06 pm

Judicial Watch Uncovers Documents Detailing Suspicious Illinois State Senate Earmarks by Barack Obama

http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2008/oct/judicial-watch-uncovers-documents-detailing-suspicious-illinois-state-senate-earmarks-

We out to prowl this to the media.

#304 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:06 pm

two weeks to go.. lets get out the vote!
..talk to family,neighbors,friends,co workers..talk to them and convice them to vote for mccain-palin
:smile:

#305 Ciardha on 10.20.08 at 1:07 pm

I’m a lifelong liberal democrat, child of two liberal democrats. I’m a bleeding heart Kuchnich type + populist type liberal feminist democratic. Unlike many here I see injecting a bit of socialism into our government as a good thing. Obama is not a socialist, he’s a con artist, using one group after another to gain political power. His rabid followers aren’t socialists either, they are like markos and huffington- ex republicans, angry that they couldn’t get to the top of the Republican party so they became Democrats to try to become big wigs in that party. They have nothing but contempt for the working class and the poor, just like Obama. I began the primary season last year liking Kuchnich best, but Hillary was a close second because she has worked her whole adult life for women’s rights, children’s rights, strengthening union power, minority rights, and the enviroment. She dialogued with American Socialists as a young woman- wanting to hear their views, she wrote a paper about one such person as a college student. Her first lawyer position was at a law firm run by idealistic socialists. She saw the commonalities between liberal democracy and idealistic socialism. The countries that blend liberal democracy with idealistic socialism- countries like Sweden, have suffered the least in the current worldwide economic disaster, there is universal healthcare, men and women have the closest to equal status, and perhaps, as important- they are the people that are happiest with their lives. I think we should go back to the tax levels for millionaires that we had from Roosevelt-Carter- where they paid 70-94% income tax. It’s welfare for millionaires that they only pay the same 31% of their income that someone making 100,000 does. Reagan did this, and that lead to the crash at the end of the 80′s because the working poor and middle class were shouldering the tax burden unfairly, and Reagan dropped the top rate down to 28%. We didn’t hit the 90′s recovery until after Clinton raised the top rate to 31%. If the millionaires are taxed on the same percentage climb as applies up to 100,000 then our necessary social programs will be funded the way the should be. Hillary said she would raise taxes on the rich and make our social programs stronger. Obama mocked her ideas during the primary but steals them now, just without the well thought out structures Hillary outlined.

Obama is bigoted aganist poor white people, misogynist, racist against Asian Americans, classist, homophobic, and in the pocket of big corporate interests who are his real biggest donors. He has a giant ego, and is for the suppression of the most minor criticism of himself. No way in heck am I voting for a creep like that.

I’m voting Green party, because I am a “bleeding heart liberal” and proud of it. I proudly voted for Hillary in the primaries, and had she not had the nomination stolen from her, I would have proudly voted for her in the general election. Because, for the first time since FDR the Democratic party nominated a real liberal Democrat. (Bill was close, but he holds more pro centerist, business wise, than Hillary does.)

#306 indy on 10.20.08 at 1:08 pm

#289 NoHillaryNoVote:

The best thing we can do with these networks and the MSM, is boycott them and their sponsors.

Actually, we should start doing that now. There’s still two weeks left and maybe one major media outlet will actually come clean with the info they have on Obama.

I don’t believe they haven’t vetted Obama, as with Edwards, their not coming clean.

Speaking of a media hoax. Not revealing what they know about Obama is a hoax on America!!

Why don’t we stage a national boycott on the MSM and their sponsors?

#307 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 1:09 pm

GOALS:

1. Help McCain in swing states.
2. Turn McCain voters into activists.
3. Go to conservative blogs and write a short post urging every single person to blog less and act more, urging them to help McCain in swing states.

Keep the list going!

4. ?
5. ?
6. ?

#308 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:09 pm

#297 Ario

im trying to mentally get myself prepared if That One wins
—————-
I have been doing the same…racking my brain of all the buttons I want to make to wear:

I told you so!

Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for him!

Are you still inspired?

How’s that ‘socialism’ working for you?

Is this the ‘Change’ you were hoping for?

Yea, we could have had an experienced President.

#309 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:09 pm

indy..
yessssss!!!!
boycott and punish the hell out of the MSM and their commerical sponsors.yessssssssss..

#310 Grizzly on 10.20.08 at 1:10 pm

I hope that people are able to see Obama for what he really is – a cheap Chicago thug.

He is shamelessly violating campaign finance laws to rake in record amounts of cash – in other words, he is laundering money.

He is fostering voter fraud through ACORN in an attempt to boost his chances of winning – in other words he is stealing from the American people.

He is intimidating opposition voters and supporters through the media and his local machine – in other words he is employing a protection racket where those that don’t pay the necessary tribute are “burned out”.

He is embellishing his record through a steady stream of lies and misinformation – in other words, he is employing a communist-like propaganda approach that silences the opposition.

Obama is, in and of himself, a one man criminal enterprise. Unbelievable.

My fear is what he will do if elected. Specifically what hapens when he faces his own “9/11″. If Obama stays true to form, he will seize upon such an event as a vehicle to wrest more control – the possible suspension of habeas corpus, the implementation of martial law, the suspension of Constitutional rights in the name of national security, and the suspension of elections. If you had asked me last year, I never would have even thought Obama was capable of such things. But this is not last year, and after witnessing a series of acts that are reminiscent of Stalinesque tactics, I certainly believe he indeed has the potential to become freedoms public enemy number one.

Biden’s speech yesterday about Obama “being tested” due to his inexperience was particularly troubling. He was asking for support even if it appeared that the acts of a President Obama were troubling. Huh?????

#311 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 1:10 pm

297 Ario Iknow how you feel….my best friend is a Sista named Mardell. We were hangin out yesterday and she came over for dinner. She just keeps sayin, “Oh, you know I’m voting for Obama, Ashleigh, so there’s nothin to talk about there.”

#312 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:10 pm

#294 Dances I’M GOING TO McCAIN’S PHONE BANK and making calls

#313 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 1:11 pm

Go take a peek at the sign on Jake Trappers blog…ABC political punch…NOW!

#314 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 1:11 pm

I am not voting for Obama because I choose to be a proud American.

#315 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:11 pm

#303 NOBAMA DEM here’s an e=mail list which also includes katie couric, you can delete her if you want. Send your post out to ALL!!
360@cnn.com,
2020@abc.com, netaudr@abc.com,
60II@cbsnews.com,
48hours@cbsnews.com,
admin@hillaryresponders.com,
abrams@msnbc.com,
advocate@thebulletin.us,
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#316 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:13 pm

Why is the judge in the Berg lawsuit taking so long to rule? I called a couple of weeks ago and prodded his secy to have him make a ruling. This is ridiculous

#317 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:14 pm

ladyhawke.. thanks so much for the MSM link list.. i’m going to save your post for mailing purposes.. thanks!

#318 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:14 pm

#312 HP Boston
How about posting the link?

#319 murphy on 10.20.08 at 1:14 pm

Received in email a report from an Obama supporter that someone (or several people) slashed the tires on over 30 cars outside an Obama rally yesterday in North Carolina.

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=307949

The writer assumed that we’d be supportive, or at least silent, about this sort of hateful attack.

Nope.

This is a terrible act. UnAmerican and unacceptable in a civil, peaceful society. The people whose tires were ruined are regular Americans attending a political event. They should never have to face property damage, unnecessary expenses, and being stranded just because they decided to attend a political event.

#320 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 1:15 pm

All year we have seen how we are thwarted at obtaining justice concerning the primary. He was arbitrarily selected.And then MSM has largely ignored everything that isn’t biased toward Obama. Remembering how Bush was able to bypass the popular vote twice, in 2000 and again in 2004, I just don’t see how Obama can NOT win. No matter what we do or how people vote.
The ‘system’ is just plain broken. Our only choices seem to be revolution or acceptance. And it breaks my heart.

#321 nativegirl on 10.20.08 at 1:15 pm

I thought that we were already boycotting MSNBC and CNN?

#322 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:17 pm

nativegirl.. i am..
i only watch FOX and get my info from the internet..
the other MSM channels have lost me forever

#323 mountainsong on 10.20.08 at 1:17 pm

318 murphy You can see how I would worry about my car. It’s a convertible and I don’t want my top slashed.

#324 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:17 pm

forgot to mention sean hannity radio show too!!!!
sean is good

#325 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 1:19 pm

Someone posted on API that Hillary has been summoned to an emergency meeting with the DNC.

Has anybody heard more about this one?

#326 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:19 pm

#318 Murphy While I do not condone those acts, multiply the 30 by thousands of incidents perpetrated upon McCain’s supporters by the Obots.

#327 snowtiger on 10.20.08 at 1:20 pm

#294 DancesWithPumas
Well Dances, I will continue to do what I have been doing. Getting out and talking to people one on one.
This thread is way over due.
In fact,I was talking to a couple yesterday about their support for O and they have very skewed ideas of both Obama and McCain. They only get their news from the msm.I sent them some material this morning including a link to this thread.
So feel free to post links about “o’s actions and policies.
I have a list of about a dozen people I will be sending this link to and we need all the facts here for easy access.
I will endevor to avoid actually socializing with my fellow warriors.

#328 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:20 pm

#324 Vadaryl Where is the link? I’m really curious.

#329 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:21 pm

wouldnt put it past the obots to be playing some “agent provocatuer” games to get sympathy for obot supporters..
hell,maybe they slashed those tires.. thats typical obama for ya

#330 NoHillaryNoVote on 10.20.08 at 1:21 pm

TODAY’S EMAIL FROM MCCAIN-PALIN

Below email received from McCain-Palin campaign just now. I may actually take the time to do this activity later.
(I know many of you are on the McCain mailing list so you receive – but including here for those who do not see the daily emails from the McCain-Palin campaign). I think this approach & project may really attract some of the college-aged McCain-Palin supporters!

—————————————————

JohnMcCain.com/Joe to submit their own video and share their story

How are you “Joe the Plumber”?
Tell us in 30 seconds…

We want you to tell us how you are “Joe the Plumber” and why you’re supporting John McCain and Sarah Palin in thirty seconds. You could even see your video as an official McCain TV ad.

By now, “Joe the Plumber” is a household name and has become a symbol of Barack Obama’s plan to “spread the wealth around.” During a recent campaign event in Toledo, Ohio, “Joe the Plumber” asked a simple question and got a surprising answer from the Democratic nominee. When he asked why Barack Obama’s tax plan was going to punish him for working hard and living the American Dream, Barack Obama responded, “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

In that brief exchange, the American people got to see what this campaign is all about … a choice between honoring the hard work of everyday Americans like “Joe the Plumber” and increasing taxes to “spread the wealth.” In these tough economic times, there is no doubt that John McCain and Sarah Palin stand firmly on the side of hardworking “everyday Joes” who understand the value of honest work and the American Dream.

That’s why we want to hear from you and share your story with the American public. It’s simple … make an ad telling us why you are “Joe the Plumber” in 30 seconds and we’ll put the best ad on the air as a TV ad.

Share your story of living the American Dream, working hard, or owning a small business to tell America why you’re standing with John McCain and Sarah Palin. Click here today to learn more and submit your video before Friday, October 24th.

Then help us spread the word about this exciting opportunity – tell your friends to visit JohnMcCain.com/Joe to submit their own video and share their story.
—————————————————-

I’m sgning off for the afternoon – have a job interview. But I’ll check back tonight to see all the good stuff I’ve missed from this wonderful PUMA group!

#331 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 1:21 pm

#327 ladyhawkke

It was the 8th comment.

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/michelle-obama-story-for-all-of-those-who-believe-this-to-be-a-hoax-lets-logically-think-through-things-for-a-bit/

#332 snowtiger on 10.20.08 at 1:22 pm

#318 murphy
Such actions are unworthy of Americans. We are degenerating into a third world country.
Whoever did this should be brought up on terrorist charges.

#333 Grizzly on 10.20.08 at 1:22 pm

Murphy,

I agree with you 100%. Whoever slashed those tires should have the book thrown at them. If it indeed happened. I can’t help but recall the many false “hate crimes” though.

I am sure we’ll hear a lot about it, and I am certain the authorities will get to the bottom of it. But I doubt we’ll hear much about this:

http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67

The windows on the McCain campsign bus being shot out in New Mexico.

#334 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:23 pm

Here’s another goodie about ACORN from NYP off of Drudge. Gonna send it to all the media.

ACORN INSTILLED FEAR: WORKERS

By ADAM NICHOLS and JEANE MacINTOSH
October 20, 2008

Pushed to meet daily quotas and bullied by bosses if they didn’t, Ohio ACORN workers faked voter registrations, signed up people more than once, and even paid off registrants to keep from being fired, its canvassers told The Post.

“Every day, there was pressure on us. Every single day,” said Teshika Elder, a Cleveland single mom of three who worked for ACORN this summer.

“We had meetings every morning where they’d go over your quota; they’d yell at you if you were low,” said Elder, 21. “They’d sit us down and say if you didn’t do better, they’d suspend you. They’d say, ‘Try harder next time,’ [and] if you didn’t get it, you’d be fired.”

Desperate canvassers sometimes resorted to trading cigarettes, cash and food in exchange for registrations, according to Elder and two other former ACORN workers, Jaymes Sanford, 18, and Selvin Cunningham, 23.

Some voters were signed up more than once, and said that worried – or lazy – canvassers sometimes filled out bogus cards.

The three workers were all fired after they and a dozen other canvassers were identified in a Cuyahoga County Election Board probe as having turned in multiple registrations for the same voters.

The board, which estimates it got more than 8,700 suspect cards – with multiple registrations, bad addresses or phony information – from ACORN has turned the matter over to local prosecutors.

“It was just little stuff – a dollar, a cigarette – given to people so that they’d register,” said Sanford, a former team leader.

“People are scared of not making their quotas,” he said. “I didn’t do it, but it’s the way it worked.”

Elder added, “I’ve got no money to give out. I don’t smoke, so I had no cigarettes to offer. But other people did, and the pressure you were under forced you to.”

Cunningham, who also had been a team leader, said, “They’re pretty lenient if you’re off [quota] by just a few names. But if you’re repeatedly missing your quota, if you only had three or four [people signed up], then you might start paying people.”

Anyone caught offering bribes, Cunningham said, was supposed to be fired.

But a woman with Cunningham who identified herself as a current ACORN director said not all rogue canvassers are shown the door.

“Those guys are still working at ACORN,” said the director, who asked not to be identified. “We know who they are; we’ve told them not to do it. But they weren’t among the people fired.”

The director also confirmed the ousted workers’ quota claims: team leaders, who are paid $9 an hour, are required to get 26 registrations a day. Canvassers, who make $8 an hour, need 22 sign-ups.

Sanford, who estimates he registered 500 to 1,000 voters, and Cunningham, who signed up about 1,500, said its hard not to get multiple registrations.

“When you’re asking 1,000 people a day if they registered, you don’t remember every face,” Cunningham said.

jeane.macintosh@nypost.com

#335 haydiz on 10.20.08 at 1:23 pm

Watching Obama now on FOX and he’s urging everyone to vote early. “You never know what might happen!” — or what you might learn about Obama before November 4th. We wouldn’t want people to use their minds too much before they vote.

What on Earth do people see in this guy? I was watching a report on Missouri voters and how important they are in this election. It looks like most are leaning towards Obama but none of them gave good reasons for supporting him. “We just want change.” That was the number one reason. Well, I wonder if they know what kind of change their in for.

#336 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 1:24 pm

Action:

Today, I will call all the Asian ethnic groups I know of:
Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Phillipino etc. This group has been largely untapped and I believe the majority will vote for McCain. While they know who they like, THEY MUST GO OUT AND VOTE – their voices are just as important.

Go to restaurants, convenience stores, liquor stores, dry cleaners, anywhere where they have businesses or use the yellow phone book or white pages. If they are a business, they would love to hear about Obama’s spread the wealth. They escaped socialism not to have it rear its head again. If they are not businesses, they would not want their daughters in mandatory community service and grow up to be Acorn nuts, or sing praises to their leader like in China, Vietnam, North Korea. The majority know that with hard work comes success and they are not waiting for a handout.

#337 TEXS4HILLARY on 10.20.08 at 1:24 pm

WHERE are the cops when this sort of thing is going on. I have never seen so much violence in an election in my whole life. Talk about sore losers.

#338 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:24 pm

I sent Ed Hale that link to the API website where he supposedly wrote to Will Bower asking for $$$. He said he e-mailed them and it will be cleared up soon. Wonder what Will Bower has to say about this? MURPHY, DO YOU KNOW?

#339 haydiz on 10.20.08 at 1:24 pm

oops, “change they’re in for!” I hate it when I do that!

#340 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:25 pm

freddiebrown.. you forgot to mention the japanese!!
:lol:

#341 vadaryl on 10.20.08 at 1:25 pm

#327 ladyhawkke I am going nuts, I don’t know what to believe anymore. Could a miracle happen here?

#342 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 1:26 pm

Dances – What actions would you suggest?

#343 indy on 10.20.08 at 1:27 pm

Murphy, I know a Hillary volunteer from Fayetteville, NC.

The day of the Grand Opening of the Hillary Campaign Hqs in Fayetteville, when the volunteers arrived to open up, they found all their windows of the Hqs spray-painted with nasty, sexist, misogynist slurs.

They didn’t complain and call the police or press. They simply used elbow grease and paint removers to clean the windows before the public arrived.

You see, it happens not only to the Obama campaign in Fayetteville.

#344 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 1:27 pm

BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:14 pm #312 HP Boston
How about posting the link?
———————————-
I tried but it is a picture and it would not print here for me…DUH the computer whiz I am not.
It is a Billboard in West Plain Missouri….Obama with a turban
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/20/im-a-democrat-and-im-not-voting-for-obama/#comment-203268

WHOOwho!!! FIGURED IT OUT
HERE IS THE LINK!!!!

#345 snowtiger on 10.20.08 at 1:27 pm

I am also opposing Obama because he has lied about the most fundamental issues during the primary.
Health care and education. He has now backed away from reforming either.

quote: some ways this is a celebratory event” as “we’re now coming to the end of what has been a two-year process, an extraordinary journey,” Obama said at a second Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. The host, Comcast executive David L. Cohen, said the two events raised more than $5 million.

As 250 major donors ate beet salad and mahi-mahi under a huge tent, Obama seemed to look ahead to his first term as president.

“We’re going to have to make some priorities, we’re going to have to cut some things out,” he said, referring to expensive goals such as improving health care, schools and college affordability.

“I’m going to be in some fights with my own Democratic Party in getting some of that done,” he said.

The whole article.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD93OG6480

#346 murphy on 10.20.08 at 1:28 pm

ladyhawke et al, I know absolutely NOTHING about API, Ed Hale, Phil Berg, and Will Bower.

I know less about those things than many of the pumas who post here.

sorry. I am suspicious that there isnt any there there.

#347 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 1:28 pm

Murphy -

I know it is too late… I wonder if there is a way to have the blog password protected. If you registered and pass muster, you can login to view – you can selectively choose the blog to password protect.

We give away a lot of good ideas and tactics to un-welcome eyeballs.

I know in a regular website, it is easy enough to do. Everyone can get identical passwords so long as we have been “vetted” :)

Perhaps next time IF there is a next time.

#348 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:29 pm

i wonder if obama will give us some affirmative action for japanese and jews..two oppressed minorities..who also happen to be the two wealthiest demographic groups in the USA..
:lol:

#349 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 1:30 pm

I condemn the violence at the obama meeting
now
the hijacked media probably is going to make anti-MCCAIN propaganda out of this
heavens knows if this was done by someone …… and this way make antiMCCAIN propaganda
anyway
VIOLENCE NO WAY

#350 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 1:30 pm

275 Middle age female on 10.20.08 at 12:47 pm

Respectfully, please don’t start on Hill and Bill again. It only gets us sidetracked. This thread is for telling our lurker Pumas and potential new folks why we will not vote for Oblah.

#351 sunnypuma on 10.20.08 at 1:31 pm

Obama and Hillary are here in Orlando, Fl. There are acorns all over the place. On corners, near stores, and college campus. My old Hillary group even called to tell me I had 2 tickets to the forum today. I won’t drink the kool-aid my jugs are filled for McCain.

#352 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 1:32 pm

Action:

Yes, call the Japanese too. I know I missed a lot – there are lots of Middle Easterners who are Christians as well. Thanks Osaka – my mind is still foggy – late night.

Smile a lot and take time to get them warmed up.
They will tell their family folks and their community folk.

#353 Goninasimonejr on 10.20.08 at 1:32 pm

I was a Democratic my whole life until I witnessed the ganging up on Hillary Clinton by the media, the DNC, and the Obama campaign. Those forces have spent almost a year crying racism while encouraging sexism – first Hillary, now Palin. And all to advance the career of a phony with a golden tongue from the Chicago machine.

It was a scales-dropping experience. I can’t tolerate the double standard and the denial of democracy any more, and I’ve had it with the politics of race and victimhood. I’m now an Unaffiliated voter and can vote in either primary or both. At this point I’m more likely to become a Republican than return to the Dems.

#354 ElyLos Angeles on 10.20.08 at 1:33 pm

I don’t vote for Obama, because he is a
FRAUD.

#355 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:34 pm

VADARYL Read #65, Will Bower answered and said Entry #56 was not him. Obviously, someone is also scamming Ed Hale’s name.

#356 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 1:35 pm

312 HP Boston Do you have a link?

#357 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 1:35 pm

BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:14 pm #312 HP Boston
How about posting the link?
———————————-
I tried but it is a picture and it would not print here for me…DUH the computer whiz I am not.
It is a Billboard in West Plain Missouri….Obama with a turban

Barack HUSSIN Obuma

Equals more abortions
same sex marriages
taxes
gun regulations
———————-

Sorry I screwed up the link……………..I am impaired.

#358 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:35 pm

#351 FreddieBrown I’ve distributed about half of the flyers. Will go out again this evening. I left them all over Target, Petsmart and windshields. Also left one in an Oprah magazine!

#359 Noblecascade on 10.20.08 at 1:36 pm

I’m not voting for Obama because:
he does not have the American interests at heart
he wants to turn American into a socialist state
he cannot be trusted
he has no experience to lead
his cult like status scares me
I don’t want higher taxes
I want Washington spending to be cut instead of increased.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head. I am a life long democrat, will be voting for McCain/Palin. Roe VS Wade does not scare me. I have to think of my country first.

#360 NoHillaryNoVote on 10.20.08 at 1:36 pm

#305 indy on 10.20.08 at 1:08 pm
#320 nativegirl on 10.20.08 at 1:15 pm

The View is on ABC. Are we boycotting ABC news too?
I rely on Fox for my news, but I do flip the channels to keep other members of my family happy.

AS I leave the house I’m carrying some McCain fliers I obtained here in Virginia with me today. Never know who I will encounter at the grocery store or when I’m doing other errands later today.

#361 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:38 pm

I have two comments on obie polls going up 8/10 of a point…
1- Reporting donations of $150mil for Sept, that had almost no effect on the polls. Glad someone can afford to throw away their big bucks.
2- All the money passing hands to help him win along with stolen votes and this is the best rating he can get in the polls.

Bwahahahaha………he is sure cleaning out a lot of pockets and getting very little for it. :lol:

#362 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 1:39 pm

FYI – HEARD BACK FROM ONE OF MY SENATORS RE: MY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THE LOGAN ACT FROM LIKE FOREVER AGO:
———————————————–
Thank you for writing to me regarding the Logan Act. I appreciate hearing from you and welcome the opportunity to respond.

The Logan Act was enacted in 1799 to prevent individuals from interfering in foreign affairs against the interests of the United States. The Act prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations without authorization.

I understand your concern that Senator Obama (D-IL) violated the Logan Act when he travelled to Iraq in September. The Department of State has issued an opinion found in the Digest of the U.S. Practice in International Law statuary that the Logan Act does not appear to restrict members of Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution. Also, it is important to note that in the 200 years since its inception, no individual has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act.

Please know that I will keep your concerns in mind should the Senate consider this matter in the future.

Once again, thank you for writing. Should you have additional thoughts or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington D.C. staff…

#363 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 1:41 pm

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/message-from-th.html

LINK!!!!!

#364 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 1:42 pm

BILLIE JO

You make find this piece interesting regarding Obama’s buying of the Presidency:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/the_buying_of_the_presidency_2.html

#365 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:42 pm

#353 ElyLos Angeles

I don’t vote for Obama, because he is a
FRAUD.
——–
Ely, just wanted to thank you again for all the flyers in Spanish. Greenfun and I hit the Latino community big time this past weekend and the folks there were happy to get info from us, especially while we were dressed to the hilt in Hillary gear.
Someone posted their voting started in Nevada today, we exposed ACORN and all his fraud.

#366 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:42 pm

billi jo… all that money obama spending and he still cant seal the deal..just goes to show you how doubtful the voters are of him… blame it on those bastards in the DNC for the coercion

#367 indy on 10.20.08 at 1:43 pm

#354 ladyhawke:

Maybe the Obama campaign or supporter is trying to discredit the API, to quell the scuttlebutt about the audiotape of Michelle. That could be the reason for the false email.

As far as not believing there’s a tape? If the API didn’t have an audiotape, then I would think, if they just wanted publicity, they would have just kept pushing the interview.

By mentioning the tape, it puts pressure on them to produce it. Time will tell, won’t it?

#368 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:44 pm

#363 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 1:42 pm

BILLIE JO

You make find this piece interesting regarding Obama’s buying of the Presidency:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/the_buying_of_the_presidency_2.html
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I already passed it on to Drudge and others. Thanks.

#369 hillstheone on 10.20.08 at 1:44 pm

Hey Murphy,

Happy Monday. Could you put up a new post tomorrow w/a slightly different heading, says “I’m not a Democrat anymore, and I am not voting for Obama,” otherwise I can’t in all honesty answer that question.

#370 jdona on 10.20.08 at 1:44 pm

The reasons I won’t vote for Obama are so many I could write a book. The first thing that raised a red flag for me was during the debates he said he would meet with our enemies with no preconditions. That to me was proof positive he had no experience and would be dangerous to this country. During the debates you had Edwards, Biden and Clinton all stating unequivocally, that he was too inexperienced to lead this country. Now all of a sudden, they are backtracking for the good of the Democratic party, not the good of the country. Everything else piled on to that. But the race baiting before South Carolina, the open contempt and sexist treatment of Senator Clinton, the “periodically blue” statement, the middle finger salute, playing “99 reasons but the bitch ain’t one of them” at the Iowa ralley, the Annie Oakley and her six shooters comment, the brushing his shoulders and shoes juvenile antics, the appalling behavior of his supporters, the youth training camps, the suppression of voters and the right to free speech in Missouri, the caucus fraud, the constant allegations of racism, threats of riots in the street, all of this together is just too much to vote for. I will vote against it.

#371 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 1:45 pm

#366 indy…. well, somebody needs to teach API how to tell time- or else to not give a time and then ignore it, LOL….

#372 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 1:45 pm

318 murphy on 10.20.08 at 1:14 pm

Murphy, I totally agree. This kind of activity is rediculous. However, in my opinion it is just a symptom of an overall problem within our society nowadays, of not taking personal responsibility for one’s actions. We’re turning into a rude, obnoxious, undisciplined society overall. Lack of civility and respect for people and property is just par for the course.

#373 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 1:46 pm

so who’s gonna fight to reform the Dem party, if you’re all going to become Pubbies?
rolling eyes

#374 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:46 pm

#365 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:42 pm

billi jo… all that money obama spending and he still cant seal the deal..just goes to show you how doubtful the voters are of him… blame it on those bastards in the DNC for the coercion
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Yes, and with the polls fixed in his favor he is in big trouble. Plus the Repubs must be saving a pile of scuds to toss out just before Nov 4th that will sink his Titanic.
Thanks for the more positive posts today, it feels good.

#375 catsarepumas on 10.20.08 at 1:46 pm

Good News from API

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/

“The release has taken long due to the fact that API wanted to clear all legal hurdles and be safe from getting sued by any one. API and a US Law firm – LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG has just entered into an agreement giving the law firm the right to represent API in all matters that may arise due to the Michelle Obama interview and the release of the tapes in the US.”

#376 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:48 pm

i’m assuming an intelligent man like phil berg would be keen enough to know if the API was legit or a scam outfit

#377 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 1:49 pm

Hamas swooning over BIDEN now???????? Somebody check… is the world coming to an end?…..
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78549

#378 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 1:49 pm

#372 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 1:46 pm

so who’s gonna fight to reform the Dem party, if you’re all going to become Pubbies?
rolling eyes
————
What’s a pubbie? :roll:
If you mean Republican, I will never be a Republican even when I toss McPalin a vote this year and help them take obie down. No pubbie here.

#379 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:50 pm

joe biden.. :lol: whats up with him and those dr.spock eyes???
:lol:
he looks totally ridiculous

#380 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 1:51 pm

As lifelong democrats, this is the first time I’d be voting straight Republican ticket; first time also I’ve campaigned for a Republican candidate (Senator John McCain). In my encounter with common people while distributing flyers, the question I was always asked; “Why are you campaigning for McCain, you’re a democrat?” My reply was always short; my loyalty to my party ends where loyalty to my country begins.

To be truthful to all of you here, I was at first a NObama supporter; I find him very impressive and convincing until he shoot off his mouth during primary debate in California when he stated he will attack Pakistan if he finds out they have Al Qeada in that country. That alarmed me to the great extent I’ve begun to wonder and asks so many questions. My questions were answered every time he spoke; what I’ve heard brought chills down my spine and I began to worry, I’ve become extremely concern where this country is heading if the people of this country will remain blind.

There’s something that frightens me about Obama more than anything else, more than his flip flops and this is a precedent in my opinion. Obama made a promise to his supporters to filibuster and vote against FISA, what he had done was the exact opposite of what he had promises to his supporters; Senator Barack Hussein Obama voted for FISA. It means telecommunications can bug your phone, record your conversation and they won’t be liable for breaching your right to privacy which is guaranteed under the Constitution. Our internet servers can bug us, record everything we do in the internet, we cannot sue them. Senator Hillary Rodham-Clinton and Senator John McCain VOTED AGAINST FISA, like the rest of us, they believe our right to privacy must be protected as guaranteed under our US Constitution. Obama do not believe we have any right to privacy, that’s why he voted for FISA to give them immunity from lawsuits. Spying on US citizens is a CRIME without a Court Order.

My question to all of you, if you think the Democratic Party is after protecting your basic rights guaranteed under the US Constitution, you’re mistaken; they’re the one taking it away from you. I’m afraid for this country; I’ve done my part as citizen of United States of America; but I cannot do everything for all of you. We all must help each other for this country to survive, to remain the beacon of Democracy not of a socialistic country.

Paying more taxes will drive this country towards depression without an ounce of doubt in my mind. The Democratic Party love jobs, but they hate business people who created those jobs. Who’ll be hurt with new tax increase NObama is espousing like it is the way out of poverty? Working Americans, they’d be laid off from their job, they’d be lining up in welfare office all over USA asking for help, they’d be come ward of the state; therefore the state controls them, how they live and etc. Over 40% of Americans do NOT pay Income Taxes, distribution of wealth according to NObama to make everyone succeed is downright socialism. Look at Europe, the only rich people in those country are the old rich, they have high rate of unemployment, people are taxed to death to the point they depend on their government for EVERYTHING. Ask yourself why artists like Elton John move in USA and become US citizen instead of staying in England? TAXATION.

Don’t you know people in showbusiness ALWAYS DEDUCT IN THEIR INCOME TAX RETURN their clothes, makeups, shoes and etc as expenses for their profession? These people in Hollywood pay less tax than any of us, even if NObama increase their taxes; they would still PAY LESS than Joe the Plumber.

God help us all, I can leave this country and move back where I came from without a problem; what about the rest of you? What about your children, grandchildren?

#381 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 1:51 pm

#357 ladyhawkke – I am so proud of you.

I remember you just wanted 5 flyers and I remember thinking that it cost $4.90 or so to send it out. So I gave you 5 plus a 0 – 50 !!

Now you are on your second batch. You are the coolest !!!

We should send a copy of the flyer to Oprah Magazine with some choice words !!

#382 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 1:52 pm

#345 Murphy,
sorry. I am suspicious that there isnt any there there.
me too
and on this billboard in Missouri…I think they had bots do this sign and the TIRES!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/message-from-th.html

#383 madazzhel on 10.20.08 at 1:52 pm

I have been a lifelong Democrat and have voted straight party ticket every election since I could vote. I am NOT voting for Senator Obama.

Unqualified:
Obama is simply not qualified. He has no significant legislation, no outstanding service to our country, no intellectual legacy. His Illinois district is in shameful condition. He has nothing to crow about except a speech here and there.

DNC corruption:
A vote for Obama would be sanctioning the DNC’s antics and back room hanky-panky. (Rules and By Laws Committee meeting May 31, 2008 – a day of infamy) The DNC blatantly gamed the primary process to his advantage despite Clinton having won the popular vote. And what’s with moving the headquarters to Chicago within days of the DNC convention?!!

With friends like these:
He is too shady even for a politician. His associations with terrorist, racist, homophobic, controversial characters such as Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright and his wife, Michelle indicate a man of very poor judgement. His business dealings with Rezko who was convicted of money laundering and fraud is frosting on the cake. His lack of experience and rapid rise just doesn’t feel right. I am worried about where the big bucks are coming to back his campaign. He out spent Clinton 4-1. There is something at work there that I fear is very dangerous. Obama came out of nowhere and was pushed up very fast. His machine is a little too well-oiled for a newbie.

Remember us, the Democratic Party base?:
Obama has alienated a broad swath of moderate and swing working-class voters, women and Latinos. (Can you say delusional, backwoods, possum-hunting illiterate, bitter, strident, clingy, sweetie, rural, gun-toting low-information bubbas?) His “new” coalition of African Americans, intellectuals and people earning over 150,000 a year is NOT a winning base. He is not electable in the general election. He didn’t win the key states CA, PA, OH, NY. in the primary nor the swath of Appalachia. Oh, and I just love being called a racist.

I trust my instincts:
He is a con and a narcissist. He has an empty quality. He wants to be liked. loved, adored. He changes with the weather to get that love. Sure, plenty of politicians are opportunists and chameleons but Obama’s about-faces regarding Wright and his church, Rezko, public financing, FISA, for example, are stunning.

I take it personally:
The intensity of the misogynistic commentary by the media and blogosphere has offended me beyond repair. Obama’s condescension, arrogance and playing up the Hillary hatred completely alienated me. The attacks on Sarah Palin by his supporters are beyond disgusting. Seriously, Hillary is a former first lady and two-term senator! Sarah Palin is a governor of a large state! These are two very accomplished Americans yet Obama, his supporters and the media CONDONE the sexist bashing.

Yeah, I’m pissed and don’t even begin with “get over it”. I don’t fall in line against my principles for anybody.

madazhel
A California Puma

#384 tatepuma on 10.20.08 at 1:53 pm

The question for me is–who really is Barak Obama? If you are running for president of the US and you will not reveal your b/c that is a problem. Who will be elected to the WH if he wins and as of today we don’t know that answer. Sad part— there are people who don’t care who he is!

#385 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 1:54 pm

314 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 1:11 pm

Thanks, ladyhawkke! ;) Let’s ROCK Pumas!

#386 ontherocks on 10.20.08 at 1:55 pm

I went around the town today and hung up some fliers.
I went downtown and talked with the shop owners. So many of them were not aware of ACORN or BOs tax plan. Many of were amazed. I gave them a list a websites. (including ours) I hope just one of them I talked with today will take the time and do some research before voting.

#387 tatepuma on 10.20.08 at 1:55 pm

HP Boston—I was thinking the same thing to tarnish the Mccain campaign. They will stop at nothing and it seems at this point they are above the law.

#388 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 1:55 pm

Do you think that the NAACP is ready for a white president of their organization?

#389 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 1:56 pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL sorry, i just had that thought

#390 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:56 pm

sistermoon.. there already has been one along time ago..a jew

#391 MKfromLA on 10.20.08 at 1:57 pm

361 Anna7000 – just got the exact same form letter from my senator about the Logan act. I think we live in the same state.

#392 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 1:57 pm

Did any one hear that McCains bus was shot at in New Mexico???

#393 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 1:58 pm

#306 Anna7000

GOALS:

1. Help McCain in swing states.
2. Turn McCain voters into activists.
3. Go to conservative blogs and write a short post urging every single person to blog less and act more, urging them to help McCain in swing states.

Keep the list going!

4. distribute flyers
5. send out emails
6. Go to Asian (or other) restaurants, convenience stores, liquor stores, dry cleaners, barbar shops, anywhere where they have businesses to spread the word.

Keep the list going!
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?

#394 indy on 10.20.08 at 1:58 pm

#370 KarenWI:

API did come out with the statement at l600 hours today. The statement said that they are signing an agreement with Philip Berg and will release the tapes to him.

In the statement, they say others have falsely said they have an agreement with API and that Berg will take care of those false agreement claims, as well.

Berg is waiting to hear the tapes and then he’ll update his site.

Here’s the link to the updated article from API:

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/important-update-us-law-firm-enters-into-agreement-to-represent-api-in-the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-released-soon-in-the-us/

#395 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 1:59 pm

this is what the far left thinks of obama:
“….in these tumultuous times, Obama’s message and role is to bring people “into the fold.” He has won so much support from the ruling class—and make no mistake about it, he would not be leading in the polls and raking in the donations if he did not have tremendous ruling class backing—because they feel he has the best program to get the people in America to hold still and hold tight for the hell they are about to be put through. And they also feel that he is the best person to sell the bloody program of aggression and murder that they need to continue all over the globe to people of the world. He is a “fresh face.”

#396 alohapuma on 10.20.08 at 1:59 pm

I am a Democrat and I not voting for Obama because I believe he is a fraud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH7kT4xwddg

#397 ROSEMAY57 on 10.20.08 at 1:59 pm

KarenWI

While it is not good to hear that Hamas is endorsing either a vice-presidential or presidential candidate, it goes to show how good a ticket this may be for terrorist groups. This may be good for McCain’s campaign, since he can now say that that his opponent is endorsed by terrorists.

#398 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 2:00 pm

372 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 1:46 pm

I’m no repug. I’m still a registered dem who considers myself an independant at this point. I would switch my reg to indy but doing so would dissalow me from voting for dems in the primaries here in PA. We have a closed primary system.

#399 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 2:01 pm

#361 Anna 7000 What a copout. I never heard from anyone, not even the Ethics Committee. I also think Obama should be sanctioned for campaigning for Odinga in Kenya and I don’t understand why that video isn’t made into an ad for McCain. I sent it to his HQ. Does McCain want to win or play nice guy? I sent it to the Natl GOP also. Also, called them and told them it was urgent to put out a 527 ad on this.

#400 alohapuma on 10.20.08 at 2:01 pm

394 osaka puma

No truer words were ever spoken. Where is that quote?

#401 pumasupporter on 10.20.08 at 2:02 pm

I am not voting for Obama because he is arrogant and dishonest.

His associations do matter to me, not because of the people, but because he was not honest about it. He has lied and lied and lied while calling other people liars. He is a hypocrite and a typical dishonest politician.

His supporters stole the Democratic Party. My family has been loyal supporters of the Democrats and this is not the party that they joined. I started to lean more Right in 2000 but this election did it for me. I will never support someone who steals elections, steals parties, and talks out of both sides of their mouths.

Obama has never shown respect to McCain while McCain has shown almost too much respect to Obama. He said nothing when his supporters called McCain and Palin racist and when John Lewis compared him to George Wallace. That is disgusting. He played the race card against Bill and Hillary Clinton and now he is doing it against John McCain and Sarah Palin. Remember when he used to call himself the “post-racial” candidate?? What happened to that?

That just speaks to his character. His policies are worse. He SUPPORTS large tax hikes, stripping potential union members of their right to vote in a secret ballot with “Card Check”, On-Demand Abortion for ANY reason with no restrictions, face to face meetings with tyrants and terrorists without preconditions, the free speech stealing “Fairness Doctrine”, drivers licenses for illegal immigrants, social security benefits for illegal immigrants, a socialist health care plan that gives the government full control of our health care system, an energy plan that would cause us to have crippling costs at the pump, forced registration of women for the draft, raising the cap on the payroll tax, stripping away the rights for faith-based organizations to hire people who match their views, forced “volunteer” work in order to get a college loan, judges that can (and in his mind “should”) legislate from the bench, a restrictive and protectionist trade policy, and more union control of our school system. He’s AGAINST school choice, common sense restrictions on Abortion, lower taxes on everybody, a pro-growth agenda, free trade, free speech (when it comes to his opponents), the 2nd amendment, a common sense energy policy and a common sense economic policy.

Is that reason enough not to vote for this clown?

#402 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:04 pm

#372 ohiopubbie Someone posted to you yesterday asking why you’re here?!? This is the same way you started stepping it up in your comments…….are you really from Ohio? Where?

#403 Susie1945 on 10.20.08 at 2:06 pm

Hi PUMAs,

Just sent an email to Fox News & told them that I hadn’t heard anything about PUMAs lately. Advised them that we are still active, still fiercely against voting for ‘that one’, that many of us are supporting McCain/Palin in various ways – phone banks, door knockers, contributing money, etc.- but that that didn’t mean we have become Republicans. That while we may disagree with many of the Republican issues – our loathing for the pimp outweighs those concerns and also that while we love Bill and Hillary, we absolutely hate the fact that they are campaigning for the pimp. However, as much as we love Hillary, she doesn’t own our vote. Signed it susiepuma and sent it…………..

Will see if anybody there picks up the email – we need to get some publicity our there – just so the pimps supporters know that we haven’t fallen in line, got over it or haven’t found anyplace else to go -

Murphy – hope Fox contacts you for info……………

#404 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 2:07 pm

Repost

#9 NoMoreInFL on 10.20.08 at 8:30 am
Morning PUMAS!!

I will be leaving in a few to work at the event that #61 will be holding in Orlando. Please pray that #61 will make a statement that will make the crowd start to doubt voting for him. I will and I need others to knock on heaven’s door.

Yesterday, I worked at the McCain office here calling voters that requested absentee ballots. I found #61 voter fraud in the calls I made. Called a number that went to a restaurant that was voting for #61 but did not request a AB. Then after 5 more calls to the same place instead of just marking “wrong #”, I became a true PUMA that was going to get to the truth. The truth…there was a “voter registration” held there for #61.

Then I spoke with a long-time Republican and had called their house for other “wrong #’s” already and he had hung up…this tired PUMA did not catch on but when I called again…I said, “Wait don’t hang up” and we talked at length. He was scared that people were using their phone number to get AB and wondered who they could be.

I always thought, until yesterday, that the voter fraud that ACORN did was limited to signing up only Dems. but instead they have used other “means” to steal the election. Can’t tell you how many calls went to businesses…the same senerio. My head was spinning!

PUMAS, please if any of you can go down and call for a couple of hours the AB list and see if this is the same in your state. I will report it and if it is the same (asking a few questions gets the truth out)…we need to report it.

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

Can someone repost this for me during the day and evening since I will be gone until late tonight. Thanks!

#405 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:08 pm

381 HP Boston I posted……. it seems though that more people are actually talking “against” “that one!” :lol:

#406 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 2:09 pm

#393 indy… I couldn’t find the time of release of this information…. if that’s the 1600 report, then why is there a statement on top of it saying that updated information will be released at 16.00 Norwegian time?

#407 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 2:09 pm

Not becoming a Republican by any matter of means. IN fact, I’m probably more left-leaning than many on this blog. But, this year, I finally had to face the music that if I wanted to defeat Obama, the most powerful thing I could do on election day was to vote for McCain. As for reforming the Democratic Party, that’s a long term goal that will require a wide range of strategies that I hope we will all take on after the general election. I hope some of the more credible grassroots orgs will regroup, perhaps consolidate, and redefine goals, objectives and strategies. One enormous challenge we will have is one that Heidi Li articulated a while back which is that if Obama becomes President he can then appoint the head of the DNC, and so it goes round and round. The ring of power will be difficult to break and will take very critical thinking, planning and acting.

I’ve avoided being a big advocate for McCain all year. But, as we approach the GE, I have had to get down to the basics, which for me, is now about 1) helping McCain win, and 2) motivating others to take action.

(If Pink Puma is lurking, no doubt she’s laughing at me right now and saying, “I told you so”!)

#408 kids1627 on 10.20.08 at 2:10 pm

My sister who lives in Fl said they do not have to state what party they are for when they register so why do they keep going on about more democrats than republicans? In Ga. it is the same you do not have to state party .

#409 LandiPUMA on 10.20.08 at 2:10 pm

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*** SWING-STATES -focused ***
****** A`C`T`I`O`N ******

(OH, VA, FL, PA, CO, MI, WI, MN, NV, NM….)

No matter where you are…

– Make phone calls to people in swing states
– Write to the media in swing-states (& forward good articles, links, etc)… Post in their news Web-sites (under articles)
– Forward good articles, links, You-Tube videos and persuasive emails to everyone you know.
– Talk to others, go door-to-door, distribute FLYERS (get Freddie’s!) & info-handouts, etc.
– Urge the McCain supporters you run into (in phoning or canvassing) to get more active!

- For phoning to defeat BO: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank )
- To get Freddie’s anti-BO flyers: fred08puma@gmail.com

-> In the Action Center there are many more ideas and action resources: http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html

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#410 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 2:10 pm

whoever wins if PUMA doesn’t redefine itself and have a future oriented coherent platform and concrete goals it will slowly disappear and just become a relic of the 2008 hillary for president campaign..

#411 sistermoon3 on 10.20.08 at 2:11 pm

I agree, that tire slashing crap does nothing but show ignorance….so does wearing Sarah Palin is a Cunt tshirts…all this shows is that it’s gonna get dirty out there, maybe i should vote early…..heck, what the hell is going on in this country anyway….. can someone please pray for everyone why the hatred? What is this coming from, what the crap is going on?

#412 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 2:12 pm

speaking of voting early…. I think mom and I sent in our WI absentee ballots early last week. :)

#413 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 2:12 pm

sistermoon.. you think thats bad.. just wait until people start getting shot over political beefs

#414 indy on 10.20.08 at 2:13 pm

#359 NoHillaryNoVote

Since viewership is down on the MSM TV networks anyway, I think we should hit the MSM TV and print, in the pocketbook by boycotting their sponsors.

It got Imus off MSNBC. Didn’t it?

FOX TV is trouncing everyone in the ratings, anyway.

So, I think the sponsors will get nervous and put pressure on the MSM to do their jobs and report everything.

Think about this: The way the MSM went after Sarah Palin’s daughter paralelled what Imus said about those college girls.

#415 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 2:14 pm

I don’t trust nobama – that’s why I am voting MCCAIN

#416 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 2:14 pm

#410 sistermoon3…. I’ve been saying all along that this election is not Obama vs. McCain, it’s “evil” vs. “good”. The evil in Obama is pulling out more and more evil in people. Many people who support him are brainwashed or hypnotized… and are following the “evil one’s” orders…. unfortunately. If you think evil is oozing out all over the place NOW, just wait until after Obama loses the election……… :(

#417 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 2:16 pm

#415… ps- when Obama loses the election much as I’d like to be out dancing in the streets, I recommend we all go inside and keep our doors and windows locked… and if you have a firearm (I don’t) keep it handy…. just in case….. ’cause evil is going to be out full-force then… and it is NOT going to be very happy…..

#418 LandiPUMA on 10.20.08 at 2:17 pm

RE: some of my posts (like 408 above):
You may think it’s the same old post again… but I’m always changing, editing, adding, subtracting, updating…
And I re-post in order to reach any new visitors (Murphy said there are thousands daily)… and anyone that missed the post before.

I’m going to try to do as much posting and re-posting this week as I can to urge people to do everything possible in these two weeks before the elections!

#419 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 2:17 pm

a national boycott of the MSM and their sponsors is a “no brainer”.
“win-win” …”easy money” action to take on the national level..
it would be simple as pie and easy for anyone to mail or call the commercial sponsors and simply tell them you will stop buying their products unless they demand more fair and balanced reprting from their news networks..
.. they will totally freak out if that were to happen..
..don’t forget..”IT’S MONEY HONEY”.. :smile:

#420 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 2:17 pm

#416…. maybe I’ll check into GETTING one of them thar concealed weapons (licensed) before Nov 4….. how long is that durned waiting period?

#421 indy on 10.20.08 at 2:19 pm

#405 KarenWI

That l600 article at the top of the API page is actually the previous article.

If you go to that l600 article, at the top you’ll see the updated article in which I previously posted.

It’s their way of referring to other articles. But it is a little confusing.

Anyway, the article about the agreement with Berg is the latest article and was posted at l600.

Got that? (I hope I explained it clearly enough)

#422 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 2:22 pm
#423 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 2:22 pm

#416 KarenWI on 10.20.08 at 2:16 pm

I know what you mean, my daughter and I have to go to Dallas alone on the 6th and win or lose, the Mcain/Palin stickers are coming off the car before we leave. I’m literally worried about going out of town that soon after the election, but I refuse to let fear hold me captive.

#424 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 2:23 pm

Holy cow, I shot a blank and I’m not a male. Hehehe.

#425 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 10.20.08 at 2:23 pm

#421 BillieJo

are you speechless :lol:

#426 osaka puma on 10.20.08 at 2:24 pm

bille jo.. was it good? :lol:

#427 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:27 pm

419 KarenWI Where I live, outside of San Antonio, the class is 10 hours. You do have to pass a weapon’s target test.

You DO NOT NEED to have a concealed weapon’s certificate to have it on your property or to defend yourself – only if you’re taking it with you. :lol:

#428 shampoovta on 10.20.08 at 2:27 pm

#391 HP Boston

http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67

#429 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 2:28 pm

#406 Anna7000

… I’m probably more left-leaning than many on this blog. But, this year, I finally had to face the music that if I wanted to defeat Obama, the most powerful thing I could do on election day was to vote for McCain

I’ve avoided being a big advocate for McCain all year. But, as we approach the GE, I have had to get down to the basics….
********************************************

Anna, I remember your agony over this issue for the longest time!

I am so happy about your decision. :lol: :lol:

#430 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:29 pm

423 BillieJo you’re so funny!! :lol:

#431 utahpuma on 10.20.08 at 2:30 pm

Not to change the subject, but just to let you know that there are still some very nice people around.

While working through my lunch, two very nice ladies from Mary Kay stopped into my office and gave me a rose.

They were honoring working women in our building (six floors).

I just think that was very nice and thoughtful.

#432 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 2:31 pm

WTF is going on? Now Drudge headline obie is up to 5.2 from 4.8 points in the polls. The polls are reporting every tenth of a point now…I guess the richies need their reward for all the millions they donated to him after all. Hopefully us PUMAs will deliver their real reward on Nov 4th. A big goose egg!

#433 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:31 pm

419 KarenWI I’ll expand my answer – you can have a weapon in your vehicle – but NOT concealed…If you got stopped by a policeman, you would have to tell them immediately that you have one. Take a Shotgun – hang it in your window – whatever!! :lol: :lol:

#434 shampoovta on 10.20.08 at 2:32 pm

Shots Fired At McCain Bus, Media Ignores Story

http://www.thehotjoints.com/2008/10/20/shots-fired-at-mccain-bus-media-ignores-story/

#435 cosmo on 10.20.08 at 2:33 pm

i’m a progressive democrat and i will not vote for obama;

he’s a liar

no experience

smells of fascism

#436 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 2:34 pm

#432 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 2:31 pm

How are you and greenfun? How was your trip in Vegas?

Thank you very much for spreading the word, I’m mighty proud of you both! ;)

#437 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 2:34 pm

#4041gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:08 pm 381 HP Boston I posted……. it seems though that more people are actually talking “against” “that one!”

____________
Did you see the billboard? The bots are going spastic over it…I feel it gives them ammunition and it will not be good for McCain. I think the dem bots paid for it though..
I have been getting a lot of response when I post….that means they read it and weep. I post from you guys, you have truth justice and the American way on our side!

The bots are paid posters for the most part and seem to have no valid talking points lately.

#438 catsarepumas on 10.20.08 at 2:35 pm

I an not voting for Obama because the Beatles said all you need is love…not a word about change and hope. Show me the love. Obama, show me the love.

just in case you don’t get it, love is not hate. :lol:

#439 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 2:35 pm

PUMAS

Check your mailbox please, your buttons should be there today or tomorrow – brown bubble wrap invelop. Wear it with PRIDE. ;)

#440 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 2:36 pm

Asian4Hillary

Thanks you for your hard work!

#441 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 2:36 pm

QUICK REMINDER RE: LETTERS TO THE MEDIA
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If this is part of what you’re doing to take action and are trying to prioritize what to do each day, remember that you need to allow time for letters. Work backwards from election day and you realize that this week is probably the last real chance to have a letter printed since it often takes a few days (sometimes a week) for letters to be reviewed and selected) and then another couple of days once selected before it’s actually printed.

So, if letter writing is part of your thing, it’s now or never!

#442 murphy on 10.20.08 at 2:36 pm

ciarda #305 — I’ve not seen you comment before — welcome!

What you wrote is a wonderful breath of fresh air, very well said, and I know represents the sentiments of many many pumas who read this blog.

thank you for putting in to words what so many liberal democrats have been feeling for months.

#443 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 2:37 pm

#440 Your northern neighbor

You’re welcome! USA is worth fighting for, we will not succumb to rhetoric.

#444 BigCatLover on 10.20.08 at 2:37 pm

Ed Hale has been having a power struggle with some Obama supporters who he has been challenging on the air. I only listen to this show occasionally, so I don’t know all the details, but the email supposedly from Ed to Will about the API thing could be a hoax to discredit Ed and Will. Anyhow, API denies they made a deal with anybody other than Phil Berg, so take all that info with a grain of salt.

#445 murphy on 10.20.08 at 2:37 pm

Asian4Hillary — thank you for the buttons!!

Glad to see you back in the saddle and cheerful today!

#446 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 2:38 pm

I only said that previous rolling eyes comment because so many people were saying they’re voting straight Pubbie or they’re done with the Dems, etc…etc…and I found it strange and self-defeating.
Someone has to stay and fight for the Dem party and I’m glad that some of you will do just that, be you very liberal, slightly liberal, moderate or conservative.
Also, Berg is a 9/11 troofer which is why most conservative Pubbies didn’t get taken in by the birth certificate lawsuit.
Thanks and have a nice day :)

#447 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 2:38 pm

#431 ummm they are sales people…they will be back to every one of you with a book( AVON CALLING?) and then to fetch an order……;-)

#448 elect2009 on 10.20.08 at 2:40 pm

Voting began here today in FL.
Just call and let them know you support MCCAIN.
Tallahassee
850 391 4219
Mario Diaz
Note: you’ll probably get his assistance and she was THRILLED to know that this PUMA is for MCCAIN!

#449 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 2:40 pm

#445 murphy

I was distraught yesterday but regained my composure, I knew I have so much to do; I can’t allow that white man calling me racist get to me. I could have stripped him down, I know history of my country how my people were being treated, that’s how they end up creating .45 revolver. PUMAS are tough! :lol:

You’re welcome!

#450 girlsrule on 10.20.08 at 2:46 pm

We are finished on the rooftop. Obots kept infringing upon our free speech rights, so we had an answer for them. Across my entire roof in white duct tape it spells McCain Palin complete with a huge American flag underneath. Now let them crawl up on my roof and I have a little something for them. I wish there was someway I could share the pics with all of you!

#451 shampoovta on 10.20.08 at 2:46 pm

#439 Asian4Hillary

Got mine!

They are fantastic, Thank you!

#452 NObamaDem on 10.20.08 at 2:47 pm

188 murphy on 10.20.08 at 11:43 am more youtube fun, ht hillbuzz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-hFEjd8zI&eurl=http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/

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:lol: I love this guy – Will! He gets it!

#453 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 2:47 pm

#381 Freddie Brown Please e-mail me your addy so I can send you a donation. You have gone above and beyond the call of duty. prowlhawkke at geemail

#454 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 2:48 pm

450 girsrule

Please do share the pics!

#455 mimi1020 on 10.20.08 at 2:48 pm

#450 girlsrule

YOU ROCK!!!!! WOOHOO – TAKE A PIC & POST!

#456 GoSarahGo on 10.20.08 at 2:49 pm

The Buffalo News yesterday’s edition still printing the “someone yelled kill him at a rally” lie as a fact, almost a full week after it was completely discredited.

Of course, they blamed this incident (which didn’t even happen) on Gov. Palin.

Not that it’s any news to anyone that the MSM is in the tank…but this is getting beyond ridiculous when they knowingly print completely unfounded lies.

That is all.

#457 1gypsy4mc on 10.20.08 at 2:50 pm

437 HP Boston They never have any good answers for us because we don’t b.s.!!

446 ohiopubbie So where you from???

#458 Mary Gallegos on 10.20.08 at 2:50 pm

Thanks Ladyhawke – PUMAs – please read what I posted. This idiot BO is truly bad news for our country and our democracy. Every american needs to read what Countusout posted.

#459 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 2:50 pm

#451 shampoovta

You’re very welcome! Wear it with PRIDE! I hope others will get their buttons too today or tomorrow.

You know this is funny, I even give our flyer to a mailmain and have a chat. She told me she’s confused at the same time NObama scared her to death. I told her I’m a Democrat campaigning and voting for McCain. When she read our flyer, she made a comment; ” how come the media is not talking about this?” I told her 90% of the media is in the tank with NObama.

#460 BillieJo on 10.20.08 at 2:50 pm

#436 Asian4Hillary
How are you and greenfun? How was your trip in Vegas?

Thank you very much for spreading the word, I’m mighty proud of you both! ;)
————–
Thanks for the kind words. Greenfun and I worked really hard but had a lot of fun. Passed out 3100 flyers, 1200 were Freddie’s flyer and the rest were flyers we made up of the caucus fraud, ACORN and other main fraud issues. We didn’t have one negative experience in 3 days! Not one. We also went to the employee parking garages for the casino workers and put flyers on their cars. (We both live in blue obie state of California, so it was great meeting folks that were not aggressive towards us)

#461 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 2:51 pm

P.S. I just called the judge’s office in the Berg case again. Did it a week or two ago. I don’t think anyone else needs to bug them, could piss them off. Anyway, the man answering the phone said to check PACER online. I told him I didn’t mind paying the 8c per page but don’t want to register. Someone on here is registered, I don’t know who. Anyway, no ruling yet. What in the hell is going on? I’m really disgusted. Is he going to wait until the election and then what? It would really be hard to remove BO after that because everything will have been faked.

#462 Notyoursweetie on 10.20.08 at 2:52 pm

I left the Democratic party on May 31, when voters will was thwarted by the RBC bu moving delegates from one candidate to another.
I will not be voting for Obama primarily because he is enjoying the results of a crime – stealing my vote.
I also dislike his use of hatred in his campaign – sexism, accusations of racism, his arrogance towards the voters.
And other features reminding me of W.
I refer to Obama as Jr.jr and will not vote for him.

#463 girlsrule on 10.20.08 at 2:54 pm

If someone knows what they are doing (I don’t) I will put my email address here and send them to you. I don’t know how to post pics over here:

babyheidipugsy@hotmail.com

#464 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 2:56 pm

I am so glad that a young employee that I have been talking to and printing stuff for her to read, decided to go online to research with her mom. Long story short, they went online again and is now emailing her friends to ask them what’s wrong with them ! Her family long Democrats are voting McCain. Long process but worth it.

#465 Anna7000 on 10.20.08 at 2:58 pm

305 CIARDA – So glad Murphy pointed out your post. You expressed much of my perspective so beautifully. Thanks for that post! Thanks for pointing it out, Murphy!

434 SHAMPOOVTA – I couldn’t open the link. Any ideas?

YOUR NORTHERN NEIGHBOR – I knew a while back I had to support McCain, just not the thrust of my actions, at least not in a direct way, but been doing stuff behind the scenes helping his campaign for a while now.

FREDDIEBROWN – I make my own fliers, but wanted to say thank you for all you do and how generous you are, financially.

Leaving the blog to go take action —

#466 mzebest on 10.20.08 at 2:58 pm

280 jane-pa

“I cannt stand watching Bill or Hillary working for him. Our country is in peril.”

~~~~~

I totally agree… I will always give the Clintons the benefit of the doubt — but I have decided to show my protest of seeing them stomp for BO by calling their HilPac headquarters and requesting a refund of campaign donations from the past.

Regardless of what the motives are behind their stomping for BO — even if it’s not heartfelt and a political necessity for their future — the fact remains that their speeches do contribute to damage in that many supporters that do not have access to the same information as PUMA’s believe their rhetoric and start to sway in Obama’s column for support.

When I called the office — I politely explained that I contributed to Senator Clinton’s campaign and also to help pay down her debt because I believed she stood for the values I treasure. But it upsets me deeply that she is out campaigning for a candidate that is deeply entrenched in corruption and this is not what I thought Senator Clinton was about. I further explained that while I originally would have been happy to let her keep the contribution funds — it’s a matter of principal that I am requesting a refund out of protest for her actions.

The lady said she understood. I think it’s important to ask for this refund and to express the reasons behind it. If enough people do it — maybe Senator Clinton will get the message and find excuses not to be available for stumping for Obama

The number to call is:

1-212-213-3717

#467 ck on 10.20.08 at 2:58 pm

Hi Murphy,
Can we include the list in your previous post among our reasons? Thanks. (I met you in Denver at PUMA HQ. Thank you for the safe harbor and for all you’ve done and continue to do.)
Proud PUMA from WY/MT

#468 HP Boston on 10.20.08 at 2:59 pm

Notyoursweetie on 10.20.08 at 2:52 pm I left the Democratic party on May 31, when voters will was thwarted by the RBC bu moving delegates from one candidate to another.
I will not be voting for Obama primarily because he is enjoying the results of a crime – stealing my vote.
I also dislike his use of hatred in his campaign – sexism, accusations of racism, his arrogance towards the voters.
And other features reminding me of W.
I refer to Obama as Jr.jr and will not vote for him

DITTO!! ;-)

#469 diva2 on 10.20.08 at 3:02 pm

#466 mzebest and #280 jane-pa

Great ideas! I wil be there for Hillary in any other capacity and this isn’t about taking money from her, it is to make a VERY strong statement to her that we need her!

Dr. Phil used to say “we need a hero in all of this” and WE DO! BTW, I haven’t watched him for months at it is part of my Oprah boycott.

#470 shasta2001 on 10.20.08 at 3:04 pm

#75 tatepuma,

That is funny you mentioned the St.Pete Times, my neighborhood is filled with people who write for them! No wonder? I let my subscription go also!

#471 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 3:05 pm

#466 mzebest on 10.20.08 at 2:58 pm

I’ve just called them, I told the lady who answered the phone I want full refund of my campaign contribution to Hillary. I sent them an email before I did not receive any response. I’m going to to call my friend too, his family can ask for full refund.

#472 diva2 on 10.20.08 at 3:08 pm

Boycotting MSM advertisers…

Another idea is to protest at some of their local advertisers saying they support lying to the American people, blatant bias toward one candidate, not fair representation of facts —-OR whatever you feel comfortable with stating. I know McDonald’s is the advertiser of one of the MSM. Sorry, can’t remember who, but only been boycotting them by not going there. AND McD is having some financial problems.

#473 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 3:09 pm

Fox says Gallup has Obama up 11% against O? And they said Bill Clinton was out campaigning for him in Nevada yesterday? Oh, I can’t take it, we try so hard. Guess we’ll have to try harder.

#474 Asian4Hillary on 10.20.08 at 3:10 pm

#464 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 2:56 pm I am so glad that a young employee that I have been talking to and printing stuff for her to read, decided to go online to research with her mom. Long story short, they went online again and is now emailing her friends to ask them what’s wrong with them ! Her family long Democrats are voting McCain. Long process but worth it.

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^5 That’s the way to do it, your patience was greatly rewarded……big hugsssssss!

#475 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 3:12 pm

#463 girlsrule

U have mail. :grin:

#476 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 3:17 pm

#305 ciarda
i am glad of your explanation, i have fail in my expositions, i am not a socialist, but in modern history we have had good exponents of democratic socialism, if just a review at the present democratics goverments many are socialists and their elections have been clean and democratic, and funtion as good or as bad as any democracy
we better do not mix concepts, because we will end up radicalizing
this guy is not a socialist, if he was, there will no peril for the country
he is a totalitarian-stalinist-maoist,” he and his gang” want the implementation of a regim similar to cuba´s or venezuela´s, no. korea and the like. he has already given the hint: the spread of wealth, militia,family indoctrination but specially children , his program is to have the children the most time in school, out of the reach of parents, perfect setting for brainwashing

#477 freddiebrown on 10.20.08 at 3:18 pm

Lady Hawkke – and all Pumas

Thanks for your kind offer – I don’t know how to say it but please use whatever money you were going to donate to the flyers towards printing MORE flyers for yourself from the Action Center.

The way I see it, there’s no other way I would rather spend the money than to see so many folks here and outside of Puma working so hard towards our passion.
It’s worth every penny.

So thank you for donations but I am going to turn it back to Murphy for Puma use.

#478 LeeinUSA on 10.20.08 at 3:19 pm

MUST SEE NEW AD:

527 ad: “Concerned about Obama? MUST SEE!

The Republican Jewish Coalition has a new ad hitting Barack Obama on his naïve foreign policy. They take Obama’s pledge to meet without preconditions with the heads of five terror-supporting nations, and compare his answer to Hillary Clinton’s:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/20/527-ad-concerned-about-obama/

#479 Your northern neighbor on 10.20.08 at 3:20 pm

upstairs pumas.

#480 ladyhawkke on 10.20.08 at 3:22 pm

Well, I did call the Clinton offices and asked for a refund. Hated to do it but we worked our hearts out for her and contributed when we couldn’t. I also told them that Obama raised $150m last month and why didn’t he just pay her debt down? She said he has contributed but couldn’t say how much. Why didn’t he just pay it down?

#481 SouthJerseyPUMA on 10.20.08 at 3:22 pm

Hi all PUMA’s~

well……… I am not voting for Oblowme because of EVERY POSTED REASON ABOVE!

#482 diva2 on 10.20.08 at 3:25 pm

#466 Mzebest

Called Hillary’s office and asked for a refund on both here campaign and her debt. The finance person wasn’t in. I started crying to the woman on the phone and told her I just couldn’t do it anymore, Hillary sold herself out and the American people. I will do anything for Hillary but I think this idea is A GREAT idea. WE need to keep making POWERFUL statements and this is one of them.

When she is ready to emerge as herself, I will be there for her 110% but right now I HAVE to make this statement!!!

#483 murphy on 10.20.08 at 3:25 pm

resistance posted,

take it upstairs!

#484 diva2 on 10.20.08 at 3:27 pm

#481 Southjersey!!!

Hey woman…Got your emails. You have been busy! The pictures were great on McCain/Palin. Hope you are doing well and the back and “other health things” are being taken care of.

lol always
K

#485 warrior4hillary on 10.20.08 at 3:29 pm

You know what, I DO believe in spreading the wealth around. I believe in spreading my wealth to my local Goodwill and Salvation Army and Harvesters by providing canned goods to those less fortunate. I believe in spreading my wealth to the local grocery store, the local baker, the local toy store, etc. When I purchase their goods, that helps their businesses grow. I believe in spreading the wealth to my church and to the charities of my choice.

I believe in deciding for MYSELF how to spread my wealth, not the governement, and certainly not Obama!

#486 storytellers on 10.20.08 at 3:32 pm

well said
warrior4hillary

#487 shampoovta on 10.20.08 at 3:32 pm

#465 Anna7000

try this one.

EXCLUSIVE: .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express
http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67

#488 NoObo on 10.20.08 at 3:35 pm

I am a democrat, or was, until May 31st. I am protesting the DNC and Obama. It seems the whole world is in the tank for BO. I don’t trust the media anymore either…I wonder if it is just me or if I am just being paranoid.

I don’t think I can expound anymore about why I am not voting for him as the above posts state my reasons. I am thankful that we have this site so we know we are not alone.

#489 AZClintonDemocrat on 10.20.08 at 3:36 pm

I did not vote for Ovomit for all the reasons listed and because Nancy Pelousy is now almost guaranteeing Ovomit will win and she looks forward to working with him. Hopefully she won’t be there nor will Ovomit.

I called to have my Hillary donations refunded (she no longer speaks my language) and was told only general election donations can be refunded. Not primary or reduce the debt donations.

#490 NoObo on 10.20.08 at 3:37 pm

OVOMIT!

I LOVE IT! LOL

#491 ck on 10.20.08 at 3:39 pm

#466
I think that’s a great idea. I will call, too. Despite my extremely limited means, I donated to Hillary’s campaign and to the effort to help retire her debt several times. As much as it pains me, other than requesting a refund (especially if many of us call to make the same request), I can’t think of any other, better way to get the Clinton’s attention to let them know that PUMAs are severely disappointed in them for continuing to even pay lip service to the corrupt, fraudulent, sexist/misogynist/male supremacist BO and the thuggery that he, his campaign and the DNC continue to use and condone in this election. Since the Convention, I’ve used my limited funds to contribute to The Denver Group and now to its successor Democrats for Principle Before Party. They’re upholding the principles and processes of democracy, even if others may seem to have forgotten what they are. Reading Heidi Li’s and Marc Rubin’s commentaries always reminds me again of why we’re in this. Thanks.

#492 NoObo on 10.20.08 at 3:39 pm

#485 warrior4hillary

I am with you on that one. I want to be the only one to spread my wealth around and give it to those I want to give to.

#493 bluesgal on 10.20.08 at 3:59 pm

Hi everyone. I just got back a little while ago from taking my mother to the doctor for a check-up. I took a few flyers with me. Taped some on the elevators at the clinic. Then we went to McDonalds and I taped some to the restroom stalls there. I didn’t have time to go anywhere’s else. But I am going to go back out early in the morning either tomorrow or Wednesday.

The first time I seen OB, I knew there was something I didn’t like about him. And, of course I was right. His lies and deceit are catching up with him. He is so dishonest and corrupt. Everyone is going to know that because of us puma’s letting them know just exactly what he is and that he is not qualified to be the President.

And I will be voting republican for the first time in my life just to keep OB out and save our country from someone who going to make it thousand times worser.

#494 BrianH on 10.20.08 at 4:10 pm

Sistermoon;
IIRC, NAACP was founded by suffragettes and other whites. Jane Addamms, etc.

#495 ck on 10.20.08 at 4:44 pm

#466
I called the number posted and requested a refund. I was asked to whom the contributions had been made and I told her “Hillary for President.” After taking my name and verifying my contact info, she said someone would look into it and get back to me. She asked why I was requesting the refund. I explained that I’m a self-identified PUMA, and as such, I want to call the Clinton’s attention to the fact that I’m extremely disappointed that they continue to pay lip service to the Obama campaign in light of the violations of the principles and processes of democracy that were perpetrated during the primary in stealing the nomination from Hillary, and which continue to be perpetrated now. I told her the sexism and misogyny, in particular, continue to be rampant and are absolutely horrific and unacceptable. She wanted to know why I’m requesting the refund now. I told her that I came across the suggestion from other PUMAs (without mentioning where) and recognized that this may be one of the only ways we can get the attention of Sen. Clinton and former President Clinton to let them know how extremely disappointed we are that they continue to campaign for Obama. I told her I genuinely regret having to request the refund.

#496 NewOrleansPuma on 10.20.08 at 6:55 pm

Why Barack Obama Should Not Be President of the United States

I am a 62 years old lifelong well educated Democrat, the daughter of a 40+ year union machinist, who for 30 of those years was elected by membership to represent the intererst of the members of that union and to negotiate fair and honest working conditions, etc in Machine Shops in New Orleans.
He was the son of a union machinist as well.
I have research, listened to, and observed Barack Obama and his surrogates and their tactics for almost
11 months and have concluded that Barack Obama is a Fraud. Why?
1. He has not told the truth about his political connections and his rise to power in Illinois and certainly to the Senate. He has in fact been politically interwined with radical anarchist and Marxist Bill Ayers for many many years..yet, he says..Ayers was a guy who lived in his neighborhood..and other dissembling
(trabslate: LIES) (Please see numerous resource materials at our Action Center on this and other points here.)
2.He has lied about his connection to Tony Rezko, a felonious thief …
3. He has lied about his connections to the Marxist laced diatribes of Rev. Wright.
4. He has lied about his connections to ACORN and its subsidiaries.
These are simply four of his lies emanating from the Democratic Primary and continuing now in the General Election cycle.
Moreover, his surrogates within the Democratic National Committe clearly and arbitrarily ignored, bent, or outright broke Party rules and regulations to assure his nomination. His surrogates created fraud and havoc in Dem caucuses as well to assure his nomination. These are documented by witness accounts.
Now there are numerous examples beyond these to secure the jugment that Obama is a Fraud.
Apart from the fact that He has a thin and nebulous record of doing anything in the Senate..He has neither the experience nor the knowledge to be the President of the United States.
He can not implement major components of his so called Tax Plan, because the condition of our financial markets and the incomes of our people can not support it. Moreover, one should read the other items…that Obama plans to implement re fees or other money that we the middle class will bear. If , for example, you sell your house you will pay 37% of profit to the government. Senior citizens are especially hit hard bt this new…fee? tax?…whatever Obama has euphemistically named them.
Perhaps the most important reason why Obama should never be President is his committment and practice throughout his adult life and certainly manifested in his campaign is his use of the radical, Marxist socialist tactics of asserting one’s self interest to gain one’s goal.
These tactics sit on the base of a totally amoral
approach to engagement with other people, as long as those means procure the goal or end desired by the practicitioner. Any means, according to Alinsky and practiced by Obama..ANY MEANS…WITH NO BOUNDRIES CAN BE USED TO ACHIEVE ONE’S END.
We have seen any means used for 11 mouths, intimidation, voter fraud registrations, chaos as a cover for fraud in caucuses, and the ripping apart in lanuage of any one…anyone who dares to confront in public this brutal abuse of people, systems, traditions and structures of this Country. Vile images and language regarding women continue in the general election.
Has Obama ever once stood in public and rejected them…? just on their face…regardless of party or woman? NO…NO..
Now, he attempts to deconstruct and trash a middle class working man, like so many of us are, because he, (Joe The Plumber) had the audacity to describe Obama’s “spread the wealth comment”..as socialism
Barack Obama , his surrogates and plans are a direct threat to the very nature of the democratic Republic,
I urge everyone reading this to,please, visit our reference sections..on Action Cener and Pumapac facts.
The most important action is the action of voting…on November 4…VOTE TO DEFEAT THIS FRAUD AS IF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LIVES AND FUTURE DEPEND ON IT.
THEY DO!

#497 imustprotest on 10.20.08 at 9:15 pm

Because he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and

I.Don’t.like.him

#498 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 9:39 pm

Murphy: I know a new thread has been started but I prefer to post here, if that’s okay. And again, thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts and ideas. A hearty hat tip to you.
Re: Grizzly #333 and Shampoovta #487–phony story. No police report, no eyewitnesses and no news trucks in that area of New Mexico. We have Freepers in that neck of the woods(and everywhere else, too, BTW)and there’s no evidence that shots were fired at a McCain/Palin bus. It is a phantom story created by a blogger who thought s/he was smooth and untouchable much like TD and many others across the political spectrum.
Re: 1gypsy4MC #446-I was born in Cleveland many years ago(not eons, tho’). I live to the east but hey if you’re a Magyar-type of gypsy, I know this great Hungarian bakery on Buckeye Road that has the best pogachen and tortes this side of the pond. Well worth the price and well worth the drive no matter where you live in this beautiful nation.
Re: Storytellers #476-Newsflash to you, schoolchildren have survived indoctrination for a long effing time(more than just a few decades). And we grow up, generation after generation waiting to hear, see and know whether the “old farts” are on the same page with us. You catch my drift?
Frankly, if your team targets children, it’s only because your team fears the adults. Right? But look, every generation of adults has known intuitively that you fear us so we automatically inculcate our daughters and sons with the knowledge(heart and head) they need to survive your vile and stupid attempts to turn our kids against us, against our way of life and against our long-established government. So you lose. And it drives you nuts, because you have all that money, and all that power and yet we remain a free people and this here’s our free country.
Misc: some posters here have turned against Mr. and Mrs. Clinton for no logical reason. I humbly ask that you all lay off the Clintons–they are doing the best they can given these extenuating circumstances. Neither of them needs to prove anything to anyone, IMVHO. In other words, they are not the problem.
Misc: some posters here are “sounding” a lot like some posters at the Free Republic, a conservative forum of which I am a long-time member. Why? The media. Having been down that road myself(with crappy results), I strongly encourage you to NOT rely solely on FoxNews Channel, internet and talk radio for your news and views. Please stay near the middle, the center. Watch Cokie Roberts on ABCnews once in awhile; ditto with CBS and CNN. They’re really not so horrible. Don’t abandon them.
Read, watch and listen with discerning eyes–don’t shut your ears just because someone is saying something you disagree with, listen closely you may hear something worthwhile. Something that rings a bell or reminds you of something, someone or some other time.

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#499 ohiopubbie on 10.20.08 at 9:58 pm

I am sorry,I really did not intend to say something else on this “old” thread but I got the Pipes&Drums cd playing(Walmart-housewares dept-10 smackers)…and there’s post #496 to consider.
This is a constitutional, REPRESENTATIVE Republic, not anything else, no matter how many times they say it and no matter who they are. Check the good ‘ole Constitution and the Federalist Papers.
Better yet, memorize them. Drives ‘em nuts.

#500 Ciardha on 10.20.08 at 9:58 pm

Thanks murphy. I come from a long line of outspoken southern liberals, my maternal four times great grandfather George D. Blakey was an abolitionist politician in southern Kentucky, his daughter- my three times great grandmother Pamelia Blakey Duncan was as equally passionate an abolitionist as her father. So when I speak out I remember those ancestors with pride. It’s in my genes. :)

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