Thank you Toby Keith — another lifelong Democrat who is a Puma, even if he doesn’t know it. (gotta admit I never heard him sing before. nice voice, great smile.)
I Love This Blog! Sing it with me Pumas!
Oh Toby!
October 18th, 2008 | open thread
People United Means Action
October 18th, 2008 | open thread
Thank you Toby Keith — another lifelong Democrat who is a Puma, even if he doesn’t know it. (gotta admit I never heard him sing before. nice voice, great smile.)
I Love This Blog! Sing it with me Pumas!
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in keeping with Murphy’s powerful women’s theme of early history I would like all pumas to takfe 5 mins and watch my best opera girl sing this aria. The fury and anger about sums up how I feel these days with this campaign! Please enjoy!
I have included a translation!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn89JoTfBak
Armed with your torches and your snakes,
from your dark and dreadful kingdom,
you dread companions, the Furies, come to us.
Teach our inflamed hearts with the lash,
with death and slaughter to avenge,
the death of such a leader.
#222 jenniforhillary
Hey Jenni, I was putting off calling you because it’s so late. Is it ok to call now, or when would be good to call tomorrow?
invalidresponse!!
hey there!
repost Ario.
Hi murphy
I just wanna know who Toby’s mother is…she raised him right!
repost
OK so where are our SF Bay Area PUMAssss…w/Freddie’s Flyers in Hand??
A third of Asian American vote still undecided
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/16/BARK13HLQ8.DTL&type=politics
“Nationally, the undecided vote is 8 to 10 percent. For Asian Americans it’s very, very high: 30 percent.”
erm, I mean “thanks for reposting Ario.”
and, in honor of the 14 or so times that my family has read Lord of the Rings (not counting the ten times we’ve watched the trilogy, not counting the 20 times we’ve watched the animated The Hobbit from the 70’s)
Frodo : “I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had ever happened.”
Gandalf :”So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time we are given. There are other forces at work in the world than the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the ring, which means that you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought. Ah! It’s this way.”
murphy
the link to the video says it is no longer available
in keeping with Murphy’s powerful women’s theme of early history I would like all pumas to takfe 5 mins and watch my best opera girl sing this aria. The fury and anger about sums up how I feel these days with this campaign! Please enjoy!
I have included a translation!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn89JoTfBak
Armed with your torches and your snakes,
from your dark and dreadful kingdom,
you dread companions, the Furies, come to us.
Teach our inflamed hearts with the lash,
with death and slaughter to avenge,
the death of such a leader.
156 Gogandalf on 10.18.08 at 12:12 am McCaininDemo – I totally agree with you that was a mistake for the McCain campaign to have him go on the Letterman show and now he is trying to get Palin on there too – so he can do more damage – of course he is an Independent right —-
Would anyone help me by sending an email to David Letterman saying that he was terrible to McCain last night – if you did not see it – please take another Pumas word for it – he was disgusting :
Email address to Letterman is: cbsmailbag@aol.com
Thanks – owe you Pumas one.
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I just sent Dave a email and this is what I told him:
Dave you were disrespectful toward Senator McCain and you should be ashamed very ashamed with yourself, you acted like a spoiled child when McCain had to cancel and you proceeded to throw a tantrum right on TV.
Very Aries of you, open mouth and insert foot.
You support Obama who does not support Israel, who hates Jews just like his Rev. J. Wright. You will get your just reward very soon.
It is probably time for you to retire since you do not have any decorum left anymore anyway.
And I hope McCain wins and audits you…..
hillstheone — love your comments.
will posit that Asians tend to be circumspect when sharing their thoughts with strangers. (was that raaaacissst?!)
My guess is that Asian Americans will swing DECIDEDLY for McCain.
lol murphy
the singer…Cecilia Bartoli has gotten me through many dark moments…so these days i listen to her alot!
As I said, I like Mccain very much because he campaigns in ALL states: right now he’s all over North Carolina, Missouri and Nevada, that haven’t seen a republican or democrat candidate in ages.
Just goes to show he loves America.
here in california asians and hispanics by a 3 to 1 margin rejected obama and went for hillary… i think many of them will vote for mccain once they get into the voting booth..
13 murphy
Yes, but you, and the rest of us, are all racists anyway, so what does it matter?
im gonna place my bet that 20% of blks will vote for mccain
dances — fixed the link. the new one is a studio version. quieter and nice. go check it out.
but watch the rockin version here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85rPq1u9sc
#16 osaka puma on 10.18.08 at 1:12 am here in california asians and hispanics by a 3 to 1 margin
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If the polls on FoxNews hold true, California will go to McCain in a landslide.
#7 hillstheone
Toby’s mother is Carolyn Covel
* * * Independent Voting.com * * *
GREAT SURVEY, GO TAKE IT, PUMA’s, and let’s get our voices heard !!! ;D
http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e29lu0qife9ezasa/a023v8fmfsiyid/questions?continue=Continue+%3E
oh, and his dimples are quite alright too.
okay done objectifying now.
Toby, you are a fine and competent songwriter, musician, and singer who in no way deserves to be objectified for your supreme cuteness.
where is mountainsong?
can’t do it, can’t do it, can’t do it.
watching fox, reading newsmax, voting for a republican…
I’m just not ready to immerse myself in country music…
if I do, how far behind will it be before I’m buying a ‘murican 450 dually, gittin’ a dog named Butch, moving to the south, watching nascar, and marrying one of my cousins??
oh Murphy…..if you do not know this guy you have to listen to this song!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YAaXD-2mJM
tell me what you think
* * * Independent Voting.com * * *
GREAT SURVEY, GO TAKE IT, PUMA’s, and let’s get our voices heard, you will love it. ;D
http://www.independentvoting.org/
i was told i reemble toby!!!!…lol
#19 murphy on 10.18.08 at 1:14 am
I betcha if you email him, he’ll record a version of “I love this blog” for you.
Thanks for pointing out a celeb who seems down-to-earth. And I like the photo on the website.
Meanwhile, for some real nuttiness read Lanny Davis in the WSJ yesterday (Friday) – you can check it out via this post – http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/10/lanny-davis-you-seem-a-bit-confused—to-say-the-least.html
Davis does a nice job of insulting many of those who do listen to country music.
Am I excited or is it just what I’m drinking (part of my last post got lost), anyway look for the link to vote on upper-right of this page:
http://www.independentvoting.org/
Sorry for the triple post, maybe it was the triple sec, haha..!
mountainsong’s around. getting some sleep I hope.
really ario, 20% you think? I hope you’re right?
did you see KarenWI’s post about the military vote from a couple threads ago?
This is a great suggestion:
“I betcha if you email him, he’ll record a version of “I love this blog” for you.” from #29
#25 DancesWithPumas
One of our favorite games is “you must be in Texas if….”
For example:
You must be in Texas if… the vehicle in front of you is a dually, with a set of rubber testicles danglin’ from the trailer hitch.
ok so since cecilia wasnt a hit and we must do country tonite…
well LeAnn is my country girl…not only is she HOT HOT HOT but her voice is great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhQHkPSHZRw
if you mow your lawn and find a car……
murphy i say 18-22% honestly!
Great piece, Heidi! Thank you.
Davis: unclear on concept.
#37 invalidresponse
been there, done that
JK
#12 TerryDo
Just emailed a long letter to Letterman
People are voting through their pocketbooks and the issues that concern them. Anyone that would make a decision based on a Letterman show is not a serious voter.
#8 Hillstheone
I will make a copy of our flyer and start contacting the Asian American community in the Bay Area
37 invalidresponse
if you mow your lawn and find a car……
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lol
if your front porch collapses and kills more then three dogs……
35 notfollowinthepiedpiper
Yep. Most states have their versions
dances — dont worry!
all of your cousins are in Brooklyn and Manhattan.
and are catholic.
and married.
aside from learning how to spell “judgment” another wonderful thing about this horrible election has been meeting so many wonderful people from all around the USA.
I never had a friend in Kentucky before.
or Chicago.
Or Maryland. Or Delaware (hi Robin!)
or San Diego.
or Indiana, Ohio, Washington, Florida, Alabama, Texas, or Pennsylvania.
Alright, I admit it — I didnt have many friends.
But still.
It’s wonderful.
#43 invalidresponse
or chickens….
Don’t know her politics but I love Allison Krauss – like her work with Union Station and her recent album with Robert Plant (an unlikely pair but a cool one).
Your mother doesn’t remove the Marlboro from her lips before telling the State Trooper to kiss her ass……..
LOL…News Flash folks…I found the source that Obama learned his Politics and political speak from.
Remeber the moviw “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas” with Dolly Parton and Burt Renolds…..remember near the end the Governor…lol….he says a l;ot of nothing and signs a song call “Dancing the Sidestep”……it turns out O-ssiah watch that movie way too much as a kid and thinks he’s that Governor……….if you haven’t seen it or haven’t seen it in awhile you should check it out….lol
#39 Danceswithpumas – thank you.
invalid…i can see moma mccain doin that one…lol
It is true that the range of friends across the country that many of us have made is a great thing. I spent a chunk of time in West Virginia for the Clinton campaign and met some really excellent people who I would never have encountered otherwise.
# 25 DancesWithPumas
there are a few of us in the south–watching fox, reading newsmax, voting for a republican, NOT immersed in country music…
that DON”T drive an ‘murican 450 dually, OR have a dog named Butch, OR watch nascar, and DON”T -HAVEN”T-WON”T marryone of our cousins??
Got a little stereo-typing going on there???
oh jeekers! #29 and #34
wouldnt that be something!
oh my goodness!
(sorry Ario, I’m too much of a peasant to approach opera (it scares me!). But dances and prplvette might be able to help us neophyte paisanos (SP!?))
The directions to your house include “turn off the paved road.” ………
I’m going to sleep folks. If you want to hear Allison Krauss, here’s her site http://www.alisonkrauss.com/site.php?content=latest
Whatever her politics are she’s an impressive artist, having crossed over many different genres on the basis of a beautiful voice, a real interest in collaboration, and, I presume, some real business savvy. If she is NOT a PUMA she should be.
Joe the Plumber
$10.00
Just “spreading MY wealth around”!
#55 invalidresponse
Hey now, you’re getting a little too close to home
54 – So Murphy will you write to him? Or do you want some of us to do so on your behalf?
Hmm..I have the inkling of an idea …I’ll email you.
murphy…lol
well cecilia bartoli is definetely not an easy intro into opera…lol
btw just ordered myself 3 pizza…yall know how i do it!
of course, I will admit that I left for 25 years–so I may not be the “typical” southerner
#32 A few of the questions you can vote on here
When did you become an Independent voter and why?
Do you think independents have changed how the media has covered the election?
In states where primaries are open, a majority of independents voted in the Democratic Primary and voted for Obama. Do you consider Obama a candidate who gives voice to independents and their concerns?
Why do you think independents feel such an affinity towards the Obama campaign?
Though in smaller numbers, independents helped resurrect John McCain’s candidacy, and he is now the nominee of the Republican Party. Why do you think McCain is popular with independents?
Below are a series of statements about the way forward for America. Please read each statement and indicate on a scale of 1-10 (10 being “absolutely agree” and 1 being “absolutely disagree”) whether you agree or disagree?
America needs to reconsider its position in the world. The Iraq war is not simply a mistake, but reflects a “policeman of the globe” policy that doesn’t serve American interests.
Disagree 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Agree
* Comment:
As Sen. Barack Obama’s Philadelphia speech made clear, we must open up an important national conversation on race and racial divisions – not simply resolve a controversy – in order to move forward as a country.
Disagree 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Agree
Independents are free to make policy and candidate choices without being constrained by partisan interests. That’s why independents can be the engine for up-from-the-bottom change.
What are your favorite news outlets, political talk shows, blogs and columnists?
http://www.independentvoting.org/
dominos has a special 3 10 inch for 4 dollars…so i got a pepeeroni..a sausage and a pineapple pizza…no anchovies of course!
#41 Eward, I assumed many Asians and Hispanics still hadn’t made up their minds, but was surprised to see how wide a percentage of Asians are still undecided…stunning.
I know nothing about opera except that I love it…
I love zydeco, rock, folk, boy with guitar standing in front of mic, women’s music, world music, new age, almost anything but country (with only a couple of exceptions).
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Sunshinelvr
Yep. Yes, I have that stereotype going… even though, rationall;y I know you can’t generalize… it’s just one I never worked on much.
sunshine — very true, of course. as I’m sure dances knows.
she’s the one who always calls me to task when I use the phrase “Whole Foods Nation,” or paints Obama supporters with the “Vegetarian” brush. (Being as how my own DAUGHTER is a long-time vegetarian you’d think I’d know better)
I think she is pointing out how WEIRD it has been for all of us to get to KNOW each other. To be outside of our cultural comfort zones and find out how much we actually have in common.
We dont all have to conform to an NPR, east coast, ivy league designated blueprint of what is proper, enlightened, and intelligent.
we have learned so much about each other — our cultures, backgrounds, and experiences.
from the Manhattan Jew to the Redneck Alabama Mama to the San Fran Lesbian Radical — we are SO all in this together.
however, I DO like the weather better here–it beats the heck out of the snows in CT & Pa! But there is no scenery like the fall leaves in Ct and the Poconos in Pa! We have a beautiful country everywhere!
murphy the best way to get into opera..is to turn out all the lights…grab a martini and just sit and listen with no interruptions or other sounds…and if that doesnt work…do 2 martinis dbl fisted..and it will take u to another world…opera that is…lol
what about me!!!!!
Ario ! you’re a skinny dude! dont eat them all.
good lord.
you’ll get a stomach ache.
no offense here. I have heard much worse. Try living on the east coast with a thick southern accent! rflmao…One does get attention!
Heidi Li #59 — tell him I like him!
how silly is that?
it’s like 6th grade, remember?
murphy how do u know im skinny? i could be 350 lbs!
“jeekers”
Maybe I should add a new section to the action center…
“Quotes to live by…”
- jeekers
-There will never be a new world order until women are a part of it. Alice Paul
to the dreaded inner city black man.
(and I mean “dreaded” literally!)
Once we get beyond superficialities almost nobody is the typical anything in my experience. I’m not the typical east coast ivy league intellectual; and I doubt Senator Obama’s grandmother ever was a typical white person (whatever THAT meant).
lololol
55 invalidresponse on 10.18.08 at 1:38 am The directions to your house include “turn off the paved road.”
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In Alabama we say “turn off the hard road” and I like NASCAR but don’t attend too many family reunions…..
I lol at Dances comment…
sunshine
Murphy took the words right out of my mouth.
Aside from that, no offense to you intended.
More about our Toby (courtesy Wickipedia)
Good: Toby Keith was given a boost when he appeared on Comedy Central’s The Colbert Report. Mr. Keith holds the distinction of being the only musical artist to have received a five star rating from Stephen Colbert on I-Tunes.
Keith considers himself “a conservative Democrat who is sometimes embarrassed for his party.
Bad, very bad: He endorsed the re-election of President George W. Bush in 2004 and performed at a Dallas, Texas rally on the night before the election.
Good, very good: In a January 2007 interview with Newsday, Keith was asked whether or not he supported the Iraq War. He responded with “Never did.”
Feud with the Dixie Chicks (Sounds like a love / hate relationship?!) ;D
Keith had a public feud with the Dixie Chicks over the song “Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue,” as well as over comments they made about President George W. Bush on stage during a concert in London. The lead singer of the Dixie Chicks, Natalie Maines, publicly stated that Keith’s song was “ignorant, and it makes country music sound ignorant.” Keith responded by belittling Maines’ songwriting skills, and by displaying a backdrop at his concerts showing a doctored photo of Maines with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. On May 21, 2003, Maines wore a T-shirt with the letters FUTK on the front at the Academy of Country Music Awards.[9] While a spokesperson for the Dixie Chicks said that the acronym stood for “Friends United in Truth and Kindness,” many including host Vince Gill took it to be a shot at Keith (“F*** You Toby Keith”). In an October 2004 appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher, Maines finally confessed that it was indeed a shot at Toby Keith, and that she “thought that nobody would get it.”
All in all, while not a perfect spokesperson for McCain, Toby appears to have been raised right. I base this conclusion on the fact that he says the Democrats should never have allowed all the put down’s on Sarah Palin! To Toby’s mom, (((Puma hugs)))
And in summation, I second Murphy:
“Toby, you are a fine and competent songwriter, musician, and singer who in no way deserves to be objectified for your supreme cuteness.”
Now Toby, go make nice w/the Dixie Chicks! ;D
Oh, wait, they probably love Obama. I guess you guys will never kiss & make up.
if powell endorses thaty one…im junping off a bridge.
Maybe the blog IS the new bar. Everything is evolving, you don’t have to drink now to be a part. If you do drink and have a bit much the blog crew just looks the other way until later. No fights (fist anyway) just companions and camaraderie. Folks who become family and have joined for the fight of their lives. Meh.
no worries DancesWith Pumas…I have a bit of a thicker skin than that ..
#71 Sunshinelvr
Ok, I do have to share this anecdote and then I MUST sleep. In 1986 I went to Michigan for law and graduate school. University of Michigan Law was dominated by Michiganders and midwesterners. I cannot tell you how many times in the first months I was there that a person from a small town in Michigan would say to me: You know, you really remind me of Woody Allen.
Now, other than being from the east coast and from a jewish cultural background – oh and being funny as hell and a genius – I am NOT AT ALL like Woody Allen. He’s much older, male, and a true genius.
But all this is a matter of context.
Murphy’s point is, as I understand it, that the context of this election has made it easier for us to to cross some cultural divides while also accepting that we do have our own cultural backgrounds. Hey…that’s America.
I saw a picture of you in the mirror A.
dwp — we’ve ALWAYS been a part of the world’s order. We just didnt have the tools to personally direct it until recently.
p.s. Toby, one last thing. No matter what you say or do next, I’ll always hold a soft spot in my heart for you for saying this about the Democratic Party & Palin:
““If the Democrats ever had a chance, after that Democratic convention, to win it, they blew everything they had by attacking her.”
I hereby nominate Toby for the PUMA hall of fame.
It curious that most countries discrimnate between north and south. I’m half Italian and I still hear the echoes of that discrimination. Greek side, not as much. I guess it’s usually iteh industrialize northern sections vs those who earn their living off the land… the farmers.
but I don’t listen to country music ..almost ANY kind is preferable (even some rap –cypress hill used to be a fav) and I drive a little bitty old tracker (cheap on gas) and listen regularly to Fox, read almost every newspaper I can acess on-line and hate nascar. If I wanted to watch cars going around in a circle, I would have to be driving one!
ACORN
Another
Corrupt
Organized
Ring
Networking
dwp — we’ve ALWAYS been a part of the world’s order. We just didnt have the tools to personally direct it until recently.
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But women have had the power to mold children… how in the world did so many turn out to be miscreants?
i love all music except techno…i hate that crap and heavy metal…yuck
but love opera…jazz…classical r and b…country…blues…rap…salsa..tango…lol..my next door neighbors think im weird cause i will play Renee Fleming..(opera) one minute…Garth Brooks the next then end it all with Tupac…lol
89 DancesWithPumas
about the children–its because many parents don’t know how to be the authority figure in a child’s life. I mean by setting rules and standards and enforcing them by positive means.Showing the child that there are consenquence for EVERY choice. IMHO
dang.. You do a search on mills college yearbooks and hillbuzz comes up! That’s a great thing…
just not when you want the actual yearbooks. Maybe they have an informal website for alumn.
opera…Cecilia Bartoli..Vivica Genaux
Classical..Bach Vivaldi Handel
Country LeAnn and Garth
Latin…Susna Baca
Tango…Gotan Project
RnB…Mary Blige..Anita Baker Lil Mo
Rap Missy Elliott…Remy Ma..Busta Rhymes…
lololol
and many parents don’t want to be the ‘enforcer”–just a buddy..
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I love tupac, too..and the song “I’ll Be Missing you” –I still have on my computer.
Anyone heard about the computers from an ACORN office in Boston was “stolen”?
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO91789/
“Boston police investigate burglary at ACORN office
Boston police investigate burglary at ACORN office
BOSTON — Police are investigating a possible burglary at the Boston offices of the community activist group ACORN.
Chris Leonard, an official with the Boston branch of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, tells the Boston Herald several computers were stolen from the group’s Dorchester office either late Wednesday or early Thursday.
According to police, the alarm had been ripped from the wall, three computers had been stolen and wires had been damaged. The report says two downstairs offices also were ransacked, two vending machines were damaged and change stolen from them.
Leonard says he does not know if the break-in was politically motivated, but called the timing “suspicious.”
The FBI is investigating whether ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud in several states before the presidential election. ACORN denies any fraud. ”
And so it begins.
techno & heavy metal–me, too–yukky stuff!
“But women have had the power to mold children… how in the world did so many turn out to be miscreants?”
Dances, you’re getting pretty deep for this hour of the night, I know you’re only joking but I’ve thought of that myself sometimes. Here’s my guesses, bad parenting &/or poor fathering; spoiling, or neglecting;
single parenting plus poor parenting; societal influences; and, never underestimate, parent’s karma,
child’s karma, parent’s lessons, and child’s lessons!
91 Sunshinelvr
I guess I was wondering why children weren’t raised to be feminists (in the true sense of the word). Lack of consciousness, I guess.
Most of the children I’ve had extreme joy of being around in Berkeley gave/give me so much hope for the future. Now, that theyre older, if they would just go out and multiply…
like rabbits.
The Obama campaign announced Friday that it is asking Attorney General Michael Mukasey to turn over any investigations of voter fraud or voter suppression to Special Prosecutor Nora Dannehy.
Dannehy is also the special prosecutor recently appointed to investigate the U.S. attorney firing scandal.
So, they are wanting to have the same Democrat prosecutor that Pelosi assigned to investigate the Gonzales affair.
Real bi-partisan, huh.
#95, robotech, you and marie get the PI (private investigator’s) medals of honor tonight. Geez, that story creeps me out!
so there were some talking heads on msn of course saying that it was appropriate for Obama to look odd in a tux (it didnt fit) because he is a democrat! NO! its tacky to look bad in a tux and especially when u have That Ones kinda money!
#95 RoBoTech
My husband saw that story and immediately thought it could be a cover up to dispose of incriminating information…. I hope this wicked election year isn’t turning us all into conspiracy theorists.
Ario
I don’t think Powell will endorse O. I think John McCain does have some very smart advisors working for him. By leaking that he will endorse O, it gets all sorts of media attention. So when he comes out and endorses McCain, it will be before a larger audience and will shock people. This will guarantee several days of 24 hour news cycling. Just a theory, and a hope!
Had an interesting experience today – Went to have my nails done – (one of my few luxuries!!) the shop I go to is owned by a 35 year old Vietnamese woman. She graduated from college in Vietnam. She asked me who I was voting for and I told her McCain. So, naturally the next question wasd – who are you voting for – She said she wasn’t sure yet. So I asked her some questions and would you know that she was completely unaware of:
1. Rev. Wright
2. Acorn
3. She thought that the $250,000 tax on small businesses meant the tax on her net income and not her gross income, so she did not think that she would be effected!!!
4. Auto license for illegal immigrants ( she was really upset to hear this – she felt that she had to wait and came here legally, worked for what she got – and was dead set against that idea)
I explained a few things
to her and she couldn’t believe it!!! However, she did say that her father-in-law, also Vietnamese, who had been there during the war, would only vote for McCain because as he said “Obama has done nothing for this country, and McCain has”!
In addition, she said that the Vietnamese community that she lived in were all voting for McCain.
What I find interesting here is – how many other people in this country are complete unaware of these issues – including amazingly – the Reverend Wright association!
hills…
I know you’re only joking but I’ve thought of that myself sometimes.
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joking? lol
nuh uh
I can’t joke about a thing like that, and especially not during the primary season and the current campaign, when the curtains were pulled back to expose an underbelly that has taken over so much of the entire body.
true..I was just taking it as behavior-wise, lack of manners, etc. Like you, I am sometimes amazed (I had boys only) that women who have daughters don’t seem to realize the same old tired things that they are allowing their daughters to see as “okay” or alright. The subtle “put-downs” from society as a whole. Do you know what I mean?
jimmy
chances are that u r right…i hate how i let the media get me into a frrenzy!
Came across this video of James Harris (the Black man who at a WI rally asked McCain to take it to Obama).
Headline read: (Oct. 15, 2008): James T. Harris, African American McCain Supporter, walks off CNN Set
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=36423
I had been posting on this site as Tom, now they won’t let me post there anymore!
I bad! 
http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/the-angriest-man-in-america/#comments
106 Sunshinelvr
Yes, I know what you mean… and male children are also hearing / learning those put downs
109 Sunshinelvr
There’s still Dick and Harry.
That Toby Keith song is fun!
Uh oh… I’m being assimilated.
#93 Ario, I like Mary Blige too, also
Classical: Brahams, Mozart, John Williams, Opera
Pop: Nora Jones, KT Tunstall, Jack Johnson, David Gray, The Beatles, Anna Nalick
Rock: Coldplay, Maroon Five, Tom Petty, Crowded House, GooGoo Dolls, Sarah McLachlin, Sting, Snow Patrol, U2
Alternative: Death Cab, BoDeans, Shins, PlainWhiteT’s
R&B: Sam Cooke, Ray Charles, Beyonce
Blues: Stevie Ray, BBKing, John Mayer
oops, I think I got carried away..!
Dances, Toby Keith sings a cute duet of the song “Mockingbird” w/his daughter, I think.
LOVE SAM COOKE!!!!!! brahms dulls my senses:( Sarah is wonderful!…Beyonce is the modern day Tina Turner!!!
So right DancesWith Pumas! so right! and believe me. I jump on my kids if I hear them say anythingthat I catch a sniff of condensencion(* spelling?) or sexism in! I have 2 granddaughters now , so one must be ever vigilant.This is the only way to change the world! One at a time, teach them and they will teach others..(ewww-sounds like obo’s plan with his kid videos!)
NoHillary
this is my world these days in a nutshell!
and I did use other names and emails..but I guess they pegged mebecause my other comments are in moderation still! cowards! they won’t hear the truth!
Honolulu lawsuit filed to open Obama’s secret birth records
Obama steadfastly refuses to allow access to official sources
Andy Martin in Hawaii takes legal action to seek the truth and ferret out the facts about Barack Obama’s family history
ANDY MARTIN
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ContrarianCommentary.com
“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
OBAMA NEMESIS ANDY MARTIN SUES IN HAWAIISTATE COURTS TO OPEN BARACK OBAMA’S SECRET BIRTH RECORDS
“WHY IS BARACK OBAMA OBSTRUCTING ACCESS TO HIS BIRTH RECORDS,” ANDY MARTIN ASKS, “ALONG WITH OBSTRUCTING ACCESS TO COLLEGE RECORDS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL INFORMATION ABOUT HIS PAST? IS THIS THE KIND OF PRESIDENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT? SOMEONE AFRAID TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT HIMSELF? HE’S SCARY.”
(HONOLULU, HI)(October 17, 2008) Obama nemesis and author Andy Martin filed suit in the First Circuit Court in Honolulu today seeking a court order to open Barack Obama’s secret birth records.
“One of Obama’s most controversial and contentious issues that he has allowed to fester for years is the question of his birth certificate,” says Martin. “Obama has posted at least two versions, maybe more, of a ‘certificate’ on the Internet.
“I want to see a certified copy issued by the State of Hawaii, not one issued by the State of Obama. Why Obama won’t allow direct access to his birth records is beyond me. But the closer we get to discovering the truth about Obama the more we understand why he is terrified of that truth.
“What is Obama hiding? Frankly, after being in Hawaii and conducting our first round of interviews, we think we have a clearer picture of what Obama is concealing, and why. We have more research and interviews to conduct before we can announce our opinions.
“In the meantime, I filed a lawsuit against the State of Hawaii to require the state to open Obama’s birth records. The Governor and Director of the Department of Health are named as defendants.
“The case has been docketed as number 08-1-2147-10 and assigned to Circuit Judge Bert Ayabe.
“We will distribute copies of the lawsuit at a Saturday morning news conference, as well as making them available on a limited basis Friday evening upon written request. We will hold the Saturday morning news conference in front of the courthouse to provide additional information.
“Friday evening I will be available by cell phone from AlaMoanaBeachPark.
“We will issue a news release later Friday with details of Saturday’s news conference.
“The basic question remains: why is Obama trying to hide his life from birth to adulthood from the American people? Interestingly, we think we also know now why he has virtually imprisoned his white grandmother and refuses to allow her to appear in public. Who is the man behind Obama’s mask? I think my book ‘Obama: The Man Behind The Mask’ is aptly titled.
“Next week, we believe we will be in a position to remove Obama’s mask and confront him with the truth about who he is and what he is.
“One TV news network has already tentatively scheduled a conference in New York on our return.”
108 NoHillaryNoVote
That shelly wynter guy is a piece of work. I’m glad Harris walkd off. Wynter denied called him names after characterizing him as a sellout 7 times in the space of three minutes.
I love. love.love 50’s, 60’s music!
nohillary
minus being called a sellout because that would be fighting words…literally.
114 hillstheone on 10.18.08 at 2:22 am Dances, Toby Keith sings a cute duet of the song “Mockingbird” w/his daughter, I think.
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oh, sweet!
#108, NoHillaryNoVote, pretty interesting clips and thanks for sharing.
Ario! no suicides allowed. that is an unequivocal order. We burrowed around in that rat hole earlier, but let me just say that the Western tradition of theology (the Catholic version) holds that DESPAIR is the GREATEST sin of all because it DENIES THE EXISTENCE of god. and before anyone gets all judgmental (spelled it right!) on me, let me just say that I am an atheist and do NOT believe that there is a white-bearded man up there paying attention,
BUT, if we define “sin” to be that which limits, diminishes, or HURTS us or ANYONE else then we can see that despair is indeed a grave sin.
Because it limits us by denying our connection and responsibilities to those who love us.
Because it limits us by defying the reality that TOMORROW really IS a new day. That the world will go on, the sun will keep rising, and we will STILL BE HERE until disease or old age overcome us.
Because it diminishes us by convincing us to agree to hand over our agency to a cruel and uncaring world.
And, because it HURTS. It hurts to die. even peacefully and quickly. I’ve watched four people die in person — one instantly, one very slowly, one gradually, and one excruciatingly quickly. Each one of them felt GREAT pain in the moment (or moments) of death.
and then they were gone. death is profoundly final. it is like magic. each time you witness it you say, oh my god — this is DEATH.
None of the people I’ve watched die were despairing. The old, slow one knew what was coming and was ready, and the other three were so very young to have no idea what was hitting them.
they had neither the luxury of time nor the privilege of experience to prepare them.
We should all hope for death at an old age — one when we are ready and tired.
ARIO, mountainsong — don’t EVER let death kill you.
LIVE til you die.
my pizzas r here!
#119 AlaMoanaBeachPark, we should be there now, Sandipuma, I’m gettin’ my surfboard out right now…! ;D
#102 notfollowinthepiedpiper
I don’t think it’s a theory.
The FBI has started investigation into an ORGANIZED effort into ACORN’s fraud issue.
If found to be linked, it is now a conspiracy case.
As an x Federal Agent (retired), I can tell you my opinion based on my experience.
If this is truly a conspiracy case, then there would have to be a central data location to manage the operation. And where would that location be?
In an office that has such low registrations that there would not be any attention brought to it.
So, what if the Boston office was where that info was kept?
The office said that they had only did about 200 registrations. Kinda low compared to the OTHER major city ACORN offices.
And there are no worries in Mass for Obama winning.
When they were warned that the FBI was looking for an organized effort, then it would make sense to dump those computers, fast.
I may be off base, but I have seen many cases that had this much rope a dope to throw off the Feds.
robo #95 — been looking for that all evening. I saw it mentioned earlier, but it wasnt in the local news.
thanks for the link.
pizza!
Wow Murphy, that’s a lot of people to see die, I’m sorry and hope it wasn’t too traumatic…
Yes i would love to be there. But i would fall off the surfboard lol
murphy!
u saw people die? OMG!
I was just kidding..I would never ever do anything like suicide..Im just being dramatic!
I read the conversations earlier today when pumas was hashing that subject and all i can say is that Thank God i have never ever experienced a suicide. I am religious and suicide is out of the question! I would never ever do that to my parents!
Oh sure you ordered pizza and i’m on a diet
#128 RoBoTech
WOW! Guess I owe hubby an apology. Thanks for your insight.
Ario, my favorite song by Sam Cookie is “A Change is Gonna Come,” how ironic I am not voting for Obama, anyway it is a great song. I think The Band also recorded it (aka Dylan & The Band).
well Murphy is right. You must enjoy life while your here as it is to short.
#3
I liked her Ario, and I don’t even like opera. I like Um Kalthoum more though.
People keep telling stories about Obots burning stuff down and getting crazy with McCain supporters. Where are the photos? I took a little camera along when we did visibility in Denver and filmed everyone who talked to me. When they started getting in my face or getting over the top with some other Puma, I reminded them they were on camera. I think it’s a good protection against something really bad happening. But I would love to see someone drive by a few of those burned up McCain signs and upload some photos–(wordpress has unlimited space for photos).
You know, if someone burned something on a black person’s front yard, it would be on national television. Why is everyone so blasè about this? Do we just expect black people and Obama supporters to act all crazy and confrontational and barbaric?
For those polls that ask for your email or whenever you need a throwaway email address go look at http://www.spam.la
I use it all the time.
sandipuma!!..so glad you are doing okay! I love these late night chats..I am going to roam around a bit and see what I can find. TC all and Keep the faith!
order dominos…there pizza have NO calories!
murphy is up late tonight…lol she must know we start misbehaving after 1 am est….lol
shhhhhhhh if she didn’t know before …she knows now….
sandi, sandi, sandi. So we COULD be at AlaMoanaBeachPark, and eating PIZZA, omgosh. Well on that note it is time for me to hit the hay.
(((A GOOD NIGHT’S SLEEP))) (((EXERCISE))) (((CHOCOLATE))) (((GOOD MUSIC))) (((MARGARITAS))) (((PUMA’s)))
(((& TOBY KEITH))) ;D
hi sunshinelvr lol i’m getting better but am black and blue and sore.
Religion fucked up the”god” concept.
Missed the point entirely.
Working from the outside in vs opposite.
Sin = an archery term meaning to “miss the mark”.
Missing the mark in terms of “god consciousness’ means doing anything that separates you from that state of being.
God consciousness is the submerged self… beyond ego and excessive self-identification.
Our natural state is that consciousness… and in that state the point on “now” resides. Where one has a full experience of nanoseconds (wrong term) and a minute is like a lifetime.
It’s like crack… once you experience it… if you “sin” enough, it’s harder to get back, but you spend a lifetime yearning for it.
Dont expect anyone to understand what I’m posting… these are more like cliff notes.
night hills
nijma
thanks for watching her! she is my favorite opera singer!!!! she doesnt try to be pretty she just goes out aand sing!
A very good site..always posts some funny stuff…
http://themountainsage.wordpress.com/
LOL hillstheone so good to see you too and eat,drink and be merry
invalid…true my bad!! murphy we are the perfect angels all the time!!!!!
I am a Christian and I believe that organized religion as it exists currently does more to hinder my relationship with God than help it.
Are there any CNN posts we can do?
missed you all. But will allways be in here some time or other.
151 jimmythehook
Yes. I wasnt talking about indicudal practitioners, followers, etc. I meant the Church as an institution of organized religion.
#8 hillstheone
Majority of asian voters are informed, they read a lot which is normal for us. We don’t pay attention to spinmeisters, we’re skeptical of any politicians who promises too much then flip flops. To us, a promise is a word of honor, once a politician breaks it; that politician will not get our vote. We may nod as if agreeing but in the voting booth, we do exactly what we feel is right. That 30% of Asians still undecided is actually a farce, they’ve already made a decision to vote for, they just keep quiet about it. The most common answer you’ll receive from any asian who they’ll vote for is, ” I don’t know.”
#112 DancesWithPumas
Don’t worry it’s not so bad. Most of the new country music isn’t like the stuff from years ago… although some of those were classics too. Every once in a while I still like to hear something from Waylon and Willie and the boys.
another PUMA (the other ones) supporter asking for support in Missouri…
If there are in fellow Missourian’s that wants to attend this ANTI-OBAMA RALLY with me, let me know!
http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/nationaltour/index.html
Ario, you could see she was really in character, and after she finished singing she had to come back to earth, you could see the transition. And of course she is technically very good.
Do you know the story, who was killed that makes her so angry here–is she supposed to be an Amazon or something?
You do know so much about music, I’ll have to come back to this thread and copy and paste all those artists’ names somewhere so I can look them up–I’m so hopeless about keeping up with current music.
I have to sleep now, work tomorrow.
Here’s a good example hillstheone, I have a Chinese friend, she owns a business, every time her customers ask her who she’ll vote for her answer is always, “I don’t know”. I was at her shop last week, her customer was a NObama supporter, all the girl can talk about was NObama. I asked her in chinese language who she’ll vote for without mentioning names, she said in chinese ” the pilot”.
156 notfollowinthepiedpiper
Yes, I guess I’ve noticed that. I tried to hitchhike to the Mexican Olympics, from Manhattan, when I was younger (heh), and made it as far as New Orleans. But within a day I was smitten with NO and stayed for 6 weeks. I bought an old car while there for $25 dollars (!) and made it as far as Atlanta before it broke down. Abandoned it on the side of a road and stayed in a hotel while my friends were collecting money to fly me back home.
There was a radio in my room… took a quarter for 15 minutes of music. “9/10s of the Mississippi River is Filled with the Tears I Shed Over You” was the song I remember. Have hated country ever since! lol
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dylan-1964
nijma…
its from Juditha Triumphans by vivaldi…about a woman who went to a neighboring village to kill and decapitate its oppressive leader..she then carried the dictators head in her hand all the way back to her vilage to prove that the undesirables can be brought to their knees…google Juditha …she was a wonderful woman!
#160 DancesWithPumas
nijma…
back in those days…to be a queen or taken seriously u had to be a warrior like a man…and judith was one hell of a warrior….love her!
#13 murphy on 10.18.08 at 1:08 am
will posit that Asians tend to be circumspect when sharing their thoughts with strangers. (was that raaaacissst?!)
My guess is that Asian Americans will swing DECIDEDLY for McCain.
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Murphy – perhaps not so. I was at the Post Office with my boxes of flyers and this very tiny young cute Asian girl has her ballot in her hand. I smiled and let her go ahead of me since i was going to be really long at the counter. So i asked , if she was voting Repub or Dem… she hesitated since i was a stranger but said she was voting Republican. i told her what was in all my boxes and she lit up smiled widely.
I have an email from a guy in San Fran that wanted 2,000 flyers. He was going to go flyer when he walks his dog. I will contact him again.
I need to know where this stats of 30% of Asian’s undecided is important ? I know they don’t quite trust AA folks – so racist i am..
This is part of a bigger story, but this paragraph just sort of “jumped out” at me…
“Polls indicated that the young Illinois senator was cruising towards a crushing victory over Hillary Clinton in the state’s Democratic primary. His rallies were two or three times the size of hers. The media had declared him the victor, a conclusion shared by Obama aides.
On election day, however, Mrs Clinton won. “We are 19 days away from changing this country. Nineteen days away. But for those who are getting a little cocky, I’ve got two words for you: New Hampshire,” said Mr Obama”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3219308/Barack-Obama-vows-to-change-the-world.html
oops. forgot to mention, italian wedding soup posted.
take it upstairs!
Acorn made the papers all over the world! How many countries will be laughing at the US if BHO wins??
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3219310/FBI-investigates-voter-registration-fraud-allegations.html
FBI investigates voter registration fraud allegations
Ah, the opera is about the biblical Judith–sort of. Seduce ‘em and chop off their heads.
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