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		<title>By: GoHillaryGo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoHillaryGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_RvYAQh1Fc&amp;NR=1

DVD   DVD    DVD    DVD

OBAMA racial beliefs in his own words.  schocking well done.</description>
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<p>DVD   DVD    DVD    DVD</p>
<p>OBAMA racial beliefs in his own words.  schocking well done.</p>
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		<title>By: GoHillaryGo</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/13/open-thread-7/comment-page-11/#comment-193649</link>
		<dc:creator>GoHillaryGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fREDDIE FIX ON THE TYPO ERROR.  WISH i COULD EDIT.


The Ultimate Sleeper Cell Pt.1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhHrav_cLI&amp;feature=related


The Ultimate Sleeper Cell Pt.2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEWSXPaBG20</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fREDDIE FIX ON THE TYPO ERROR.  WISH i COULD EDIT.</p>
<p>The Ultimate Sleeper Cell Pt.1</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhHrav_cLI&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhHrav_cLI&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>The Ultimate Sleeper Cell Pt.2</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEWSXPaBG20" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEWSXPaBG20</a></p>
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		<title>By: GoHillaryGo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoHillaryGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DVD     DVD      DVD     DVD      DVD     DVD

FREDIE CHECK THIS OUT


The Ultimate Sleeper Cell Pt.1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEWSXPaBG20</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DVD     DVD      DVD     DVD      DVD     DVD</p>
<p>FREDIE CHECK THIS OUT</p>
<p>The Ultimate Sleeper Cell Pt.1</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEWSXPaBG20" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEWSXPaBG20</a></p>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/13/open-thread-7/comment-page-11/#comment-193634</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Activist and a teacher”…………I looked at the orange tee……read the words………….thump, a lightbulb went off and I realize by his looks and thinks I have asked lately that maybe this is…….. Just asked faculty what he looked like and yup, that was him. I see him several times a week. I said I was working in obie land, but this is too freakin’ much. He asked me how I was doing, maybe he could see by my expression I had made the connection. Damn, now it will be difficult keeping this all on the down side. Gurrrrrrrrrrr.
    Wonder if he would like knowing I have several hundred new flyers I just printed out his his brother’s mug all over it!

What the hell is another Ayers doing in graduate school in education?  Is this the new family business?  Since none of the Ayers could begin to match what their father did they are all going to graduate school in education?

Let&#039;s see, Bill was almost 40, or may have just passed 40 when he got his degree.  Okay.  Lots of people do that.  But now he has a brother doing the same in his 50&#039;s or 60&#039;s?  

Maybe he will be next on the grant list, raking in grant money for the family since they have never learned how to earn money.  But boy do they know how to get grants and throw away millions of dollars.  


Can you tell us which of the Ayers &quot;kids&quot; this is by name?  

There must be a real problem in Chicago about bringing up kids.  I know since I was born from people who lived there that they just want to keep their kids, as children, forever.  They try to instill this guilt about ever straying from the family line.  Sort of like the mafia.  

So when little Bill Ayers went off to be a bad boy, his Daddy had to back him up no matter how sad he was about Billys problems.  Then when Billy came back home with a wife and two Grandchildren, Grandpa Tom had no choice but to use all of his connections with Richard Daley and others to bring these lost sheep back into the fold.  IE. Tom Ayers called in all of his favors and bought them off.  Sure Bernadine had to spend some time in prison, but hey, Bill never did.  

In the last years of his life Tom Ayers got to live with Bill and Bernadine in their home.  I have often wondered how their statements, read over the airwaves for years, might have reverberated in his mind?  Kill your parents.  They got it right, kill the pigs then they ate dinner and stuck a fork into them.  

I hope Tom died of fear.  Because that is what he unleashed on the world when he backed up his screwed up kid.  

Right before Tom Ayers died Obama announced his run for President.  

Bill Ayers would have been a nothing forever if it was not for his father and his father&#039;s connections.  The only reason Bill Ayers got off as a criminal, got an education and a job and the backing of Mayor Daley was because Richard Daley was a friend of Tom Ayers, and was connected with him in many ways.   

So we can thank the nasty Chicago politicians for bringing us to this point in history.  

In an effort to be &quot;transparent&quot; my great uncle had a lot to do with the build up of the Chicago Machine.  What may have seemed innocent a century ago has become a crime now.  But in fact it was always criminal.  My uncle started out by paying out favors and those favors continue to this day to lead to  corruption.  


On February 10, 2007 Obama announced his candidacy for President of the United States in front of the Old State Capitol building in Springfield, Illinois.

June 2007, Tom Ayers Obit on a blog from one of his grandchildren.  Much about how Tom backed his son Bill Ayers.  

http://kimallen.sheepdogdesign.net/cinnamon/2007/06/thomas-g-ayers-1915-2007.html

Bill Ayers and Obama would have never had the grant from Annenberg in 1995 if it were not for the name and reputation of Thomas Ayers.  Bill Ayers continued to spit on his father by using him in every way he could to bring about his boyhood idea of bombing things he didn&#039;t like.  He used his father&#039;s backing to justify everything he did because he never paid for anything in his life.  

Obama never paid for anything in his life either.  

But he sure wants to distribute the wealth of Americans.

Why?

Just like Bill Ayers, Obama has mommy/daddy issues and thinks that taking down the country will help him solve those problems in his mind.  People do not say the things about their parents that Obama and Ayers have, when they are adults, if they do not have issues.

Sorry, but you will have to work those out yourself.  I am not giving up my country for myself, my children, or my grandchildren because Ayers and Obama had family problems that they think should be worked out by taking down the country and it&#039;s people.  

I don&#039;t care how mad or angry they are.  It is not their right to interfere in the lives of every American because they have issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Activist and a teacher”…………I looked at the orange tee……read the words………….thump, a lightbulb went off and I realize by his looks and thinks I have asked lately that maybe this is…….. Just asked faculty what he looked like and yup, that was him. I see him several times a week. I said I was working in obie land, but this is too freakin’ much. He asked me how I was doing, maybe he could see by my expression I had made the connection. Damn, now it will be difficult keeping this all on the down side. Gurrrrrrrrrrr.<br />
    Wonder if he would like knowing I have several hundred new flyers I just printed out his his brother’s mug all over it!</p>
<p>What the hell is another Ayers doing in graduate school in education?  Is this the new family business?  Since none of the Ayers could begin to match what their father did they are all going to graduate school in education?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, Bill was almost 40, or may have just passed 40 when he got his degree.  Okay.  Lots of people do that.  But now he has a brother doing the same in his 50&#8242;s or 60&#8242;s?  </p>
<p>Maybe he will be next on the grant list, raking in grant money for the family since they have never learned how to earn money.  But boy do they know how to get grants and throw away millions of dollars.  </p>
<p>Can you tell us which of the Ayers &#8220;kids&#8221; this is by name?  </p>
<p>There must be a real problem in Chicago about bringing up kids.  I know since I was born from people who lived there that they just want to keep their kids, as children, forever.  They try to instill this guilt about ever straying from the family line.  Sort of like the mafia.  </p>
<p>So when little Bill Ayers went off to be a bad boy, his Daddy had to back him up no matter how sad he was about Billys problems.  Then when Billy came back home with a wife and two Grandchildren, Grandpa Tom had no choice but to use all of his connections with Richard Daley and others to bring these lost sheep back into the fold.  IE. Tom Ayers called in all of his favors and bought them off.  Sure Bernadine had to spend some time in prison, but hey, Bill never did.  </p>
<p>In the last years of his life Tom Ayers got to live with Bill and Bernadine in their home.  I have often wondered how their statements, read over the airwaves for years, might have reverberated in his mind?  Kill your parents.  They got it right, kill the pigs then they ate dinner and stuck a fork into them.  </p>
<p>I hope Tom died of fear.  Because that is what he unleashed on the world when he backed up his screwed up kid.  </p>
<p>Right before Tom Ayers died Obama announced his run for President.  </p>
<p>Bill Ayers would have been a nothing forever if it was not for his father and his father&#8217;s connections.  The only reason Bill Ayers got off as a criminal, got an education and a job and the backing of Mayor Daley was because Richard Daley was a friend of Tom Ayers, and was connected with him in many ways.   </p>
<p>So we can thank the nasty Chicago politicians for bringing us to this point in history.  </p>
<p>In an effort to be &#8220;transparent&#8221; my great uncle had a lot to do with the build up of the Chicago Machine.  What may have seemed innocent a century ago has become a crime now.  But in fact it was always criminal.  My uncle started out by paying out favors and those favors continue to this day to lead to  corruption.  </p>
<p>On February 10, 2007 Obama announced his candidacy for President of the United States in front of the Old State Capitol building in Springfield, Illinois.</p>
<p>June 2007, Tom Ayers Obit on a blog from one of his grandchildren.  Much about how Tom backed his son Bill Ayers.  </p>
<p><a href="http://kimallen.sheepdogdesign.net/cinnamon/2007/06/thomas-g-ayers-1915-2007.html" rel="nofollow">http://kimallen.sheepdogdesign.net/cinnamon/2007/06/thomas-g-ayers-1915-2007.html</a></p>
<p>Bill Ayers and Obama would have never had the grant from Annenberg in 1995 if it were not for the name and reputation of Thomas Ayers.  Bill Ayers continued to spit on his father by using him in every way he could to bring about his boyhood idea of bombing things he didn&#8217;t like.  He used his father&#8217;s backing to justify everything he did because he never paid for anything in his life.  </p>
<p>Obama never paid for anything in his life either.  </p>
<p>But he sure wants to distribute the wealth of Americans.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Just like Bill Ayers, Obama has mommy/daddy issues and thinks that taking down the country will help him solve those problems in his mind.  People do not say the things about their parents that Obama and Ayers have, when they are adults, if they do not have issues.</p>
<p>Sorry, but you will have to work those out yourself.  I am not giving up my country for myself, my children, or my grandchildren because Ayers and Obama had family problems that they think should be worked out by taking down the country and it&#8217;s people.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care how mad or angry they are.  It is not their right to interfere in the lives of every American because they have issues.</p>
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		<title>By: warrior4hillary</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/13/open-thread-7/comment-page-11/#comment-193413</link>
		<dc:creator>warrior4hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did you guys miss this 
The Obama camp quickly reacted, not by producing the certificate, but by filing a motion to dismiss which has been denied
JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE 

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/

Obama’s own website, he now admits to being a US/Kenya dual national until his 18th birthday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did you guys miss this<br />
The Obama camp quickly reacted, not by producing the certificate, but by filing a motion to dismiss which has been denied<br />
JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE </p>
<p><a href="http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/" rel="nofollow">http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/</a></p>
<p>Obama’s own website, he now admits to being a US/Kenya dual national until his 18th birthday.</p>
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		<title>By: warrior4hillary</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/13/open-thread-7/comment-page-11/#comment-193354</link>
		<dc:creator>warrior4hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very long read but well worth the effort.

Obama timeline


http://colony14.net/id41.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very long read but well worth the effort.</p>
<p>Obama timeline</p>
<p><a href="http://colony14.net/id41.html" rel="nofollow">http://colony14.net/id41.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GBPuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>GBPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#511 KarenWI

Sorry Karen my hands and mind weren&#039;t in sync that is supposed to be Janesville.(ya know north there of Madison one of those party campuses...lol).......when you have to much Obama corruption overload that&#039;s what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#511 KarenWI</p>
<p>Sorry Karen my hands and mind weren&#8217;t in sync that is supposed to be Janesville.(ya know north there of Madison one of those party campuses&#8230;lol)&#8230;&#8230;.when you have to much Obama corruption overload that&#8217;s what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#261  mountainsong on 10.13.08 at 7:17 pm

    Obama is either insane or drunk on Ignorance. We don’t HAVE any money., We’re broke and we can’t even BORROW any more money. No one will loan us any. We are like subprime borrowers with no collateral. We’re running printing press money only.
    And people think the market could somehow be solvent? Geezus.
    Living in america just scares the crap out of me anymore.
#262 mountainsong on 10.13.08 at 7:18 pm

    In 2007, debt equalled 129% of income.//
============
MSong;
The banks have all the money they ever had, in total, it&#039;s just that they haven&#039;t been able/willing to loan it to each other or qualified borrowers since the huge bubble was revealed.  They REALLY want to loan it out because that&#039;s the only way they can earn money, but won&#039;t without some assurance there aren&#039;t any more goblins in the closet.  The guarantees are intended to reassure them of that.  

Comparing debt to income is the wrong match.  Compare it to assets.  In bookkeeping 101, you learn that net worth is assets minus liabilities.  

Income is revenue minus costs.  The net of that each period is reflected in changing asset-liability net worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#261  mountainsong on 10.13.08 at 7:17 pm</p>
<p>    Obama is either insane or drunk on Ignorance. We don’t HAVE any money., We’re broke and we can’t even BORROW any more money. No one will loan us any. We are like subprime borrowers with no collateral. We’re running printing press money only.<br />
    And people think the market could somehow be solvent? Geezus.<br />
    Living in america just scares the crap out of me anymore.<br />
#262 mountainsong on 10.13.08 at 7:18 pm</p>
<p>    In 2007, debt equalled 129% of income.//<br />
============<br />
MSong;<br />
The banks have all the money they ever had, in total, it&#8217;s just that they haven&#8217;t been able/willing to loan it to each other or qualified borrowers since the huge bubble was revealed.  They REALLY want to loan it out because that&#8217;s the only way they can earn money, but won&#8217;t without some assurance there aren&#8217;t any more goblins in the closet.  The guarantees are intended to reassure them of that.  </p>
<p>Comparing debt to income is the wrong match.  Compare it to assets.  In bookkeeping 101, you learn that net worth is assets minus liabilities.  </p>
<p>Income is revenue minus costs.  The net of that each period is reflected in changing asset-liability net worth.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmythehook</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmythehook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of a silly argument but I think anyone who practices Islam is a Muslim.  Not every Muslim is Arabic however.  Only those from the Arabian peninsula.  Some are Lebonese, Egyptian, etc.  But I understand that there are many different kinds and I am very well aware of the threat posed by radical practitioners.  However, every religion has its radicals who bend their Holy works to justify their evil deeds.  I just don&#039;t like to see entire groups of people slandered over the actions of a few.  I would be upset if a Muslim said all Christians are evil because the actions of the Catholic church in the Crusades (and some do say that).  Got this off of Wikipedia (below).

A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم‎ pronounced Muslim, not Muzlim) is an adherent of the religion of Islam. The feminine form is Muslimah[1] (Arabic: مسلمة‎). Literally, the word means &quot;one who submits (to God)&quot;. Muslim is the participle of the same verb of which Islām is the infinitive.[2] Muslims believe that there is only one God, translated in Arabic as Allāh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of a silly argument but I think anyone who practices Islam is a Muslim.  Not every Muslim is Arabic however.  Only those from the Arabian peninsula.  Some are Lebonese, Egyptian, etc.  But I understand that there are many different kinds and I am very well aware of the threat posed by radical practitioners.  However, every religion has its radicals who bend their Holy works to justify their evil deeds.  I just don&#8217;t like to see entire groups of people slandered over the actions of a few.  I would be upset if a Muslim said all Christians are evil because the actions of the Catholic church in the Crusades (and some do say that).  Got this off of Wikipedia (below).</p>
<p>A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم‎ pronounced Muslim, not Muzlim) is an adherent of the religion of Islam. The feminine form is Muslimah[1] (Arabic: مسلمة‎). Literally, the word means &#8220;one who submits (to God)&#8221;. Muslim is the participle of the same verb of which Islām is the infinitive.[2] Muslims believe that there is only one God, translated in Arabic as Allāh.</p>
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		<title>By: KarenWI</title>
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		<dc:creator>KarenWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#497 GBPuma said:  In WI the areas to be concerned about are the college towns Madison, LaCrosse, Eau Claire, Jamestown, etc
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Ok, you got me.  I&#039;ve lived in Wisconsin all my life and never heard of a &quot;Jamestown&quot; or a &quot;Jamestown College&quot; here.  Clue me in....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#497 GBPuma said:  In WI the areas to be concerned about are the college towns Madison, LaCrosse, Eau Claire, Jamestown, etc<br />
*************<br />
Ok, you got me.  I&#8217;ve lived in Wisconsin all my life and never heard of a &#8220;Jamestown&#8221; or a &#8220;Jamestown College&#8221; here.  Clue me in&#8230;.</p>
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