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o my say it aint so joe!!!!!
Yea, a new thread!
Top ten maybe??
morning all
it shouldnt be hard to find folks in la
bbl better get coffee
The Stop the Obama Constiutitional Crisis Petition at
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
has about 520 signatures and 999 e-mail and letters sent.
The Petition is about the Berg law suit and urges Congress to ensure that a court determine Obama’s citizenship. I think it’s good to inform Congress of all the doubts Americans have about Obama – so sign up if you haven’t already!
murphy is it wishful thinking to think that maybe the larry sinclair ordeal might come into play?
#402 Delle
I just got an email from a friend that said no one is asking foreigners for proof of citizenship when they register to vote in Fairfax County VA. The Democratic supervisor in the register’s office was standing over her employees to make sure they did not ask foreign registrants whether they were citizens. Unbelievable!
I need names!
tuned in…just signed
i heard the feds were investigating acorn!
http://larrysinclair.org/
Just listening to Obot’s voice last night grated on my nerves. I have never been able to listen to his voice since as far back before I even knew of his policies. He goes off on a tangent and I have NO idea what the heck he is saying. To avoid answering a question he takes you off into something that has NO significance and I find myself going HUH???
McCain came over as usual as the more experienced and trusted person to run this country, I just don’t know if that’s enough for him to win.
What I don’t understand is if they know ACORN has ties to voter fraud (they commit it) and have proof in the past , why can’t they just shut ACORN down now. It seems so easy to me if you know they are doing illegal stuff and they have proof even from last times election (2004) then just shut them down…
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4766
I find it scary that in some states you don’t need an ID to vote. We.Are.Screwed.
ACORN HQ was raided. FBI will investigate.
* in Vegas.
Going to court….Watch for me at the Strongsville Ohio rally if it is televised!
I’m going for GOLD!
mick
u dont need an id in dc…because it will stop the poor from voting…umm…dont the poor need ids to get those welfare cards i see in stores all the time?
do tell bythelake…who is having a rally in ohio…and when?
That One. Taking t-shirt orders.
http://www.cafepress.com/sanedesign.315052267
mick
will that be mistaken as a supporter?
I think it is a supporter shirt it’s got his logo in the background
I tried to find LightSong films’ website. I googled and didn’t get it. Do you have a direct email address?
REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS:
Before I go play my match, I called the Judge handling the Berg case. I don’t think anyone else should call as he might get annoyed. But I conveyed my concerns about the motion to dismiss not being ruled upon quickly with so many questions about Obama’s BC. I was a legal secy for 47 years so I was able to relay my concerns and also the fact that attorneys and judges tend to sit on things that need action. She told me she would relay my concerns to the judge. Irregardless of whether the Motion to Dismiss is granted or denied, be ready for an appeal to the District Court of Appeal which could take forever. I was involved in a case and went all the way to the Supreme Court, which I won. I am just an average person who won’t give up. However, on my side, my boss was an appellate attorney so I had him going to court for me even as I was preparing most of the documents with his help.
http://elections.foxnews.com/ vote if you want , I guess you can vote as many times as you want , I wish they would fix that . But this is why I don’t trust any polls plus I don’t know ONE person who has ever got a call about who they are voting for. I’ve gotten calls from one candidate or another but never these gallop polls or the others that are suppose to be unbiased.
To clarify, I spoke to the judge’s secretary.
When Acorn got caught here in Indiana, they scrammed. They turned in thousands of bogus registrations, especially in the Gary and Indianapolis areas, and then POOF they left. When the authorities came to get them, their offices were closed and their phones all turned off.
Why? Indiana will slap you with a felony charge if you do illegal registrations or any of the other funny stuff. The state and county election officials have the right and the responsibility to ban groups like ACORN from further registration activity, and have done so many times in the past. If all other states would crack down, ACORN and people like them would go away.
I have worked in Democratic voter registration drives many times, and I always knew the rules, and that they are enforced. ACORN better not come back here, the authorities will not renew their credentials.
Tunedin….I signed and sent the emails. At the top of the emails I said that my vote for them would depend on how hard they fought to make sure Obama came up with the proof he is legally qualified to be president.
Ario,
I just don’t get why we can’t all get a FREE voter picture I.D. when we register to vote. Then when we vote we can either show the ID or our drivers lic. where it can be validated at the assigned polling place.
Of course, we would still have the issue of no ID is used for early absentee voting.
Are we going to do something to try to change the outcome of the election? Or are we simply going to watch the enemy within win and destroy the country.
henerietta where in indy are u?
Oh, Tunedin, one more thing. You should post this every now and then throughout the day to make sure everyone sees it.
Bluffton, Just south of Fort Wayne……..
I have spent all morning writing to my best friend trying to convince her to take off the Obama button and just investigate him like the lournalist that she is .. We have been best friends since we were young , we are God parents to each other’s children , and we haven’t spoken for months .
If this were any other candidate , maybe someone who was less well spoken or less attractive , this brilliant woman would have DESTROYED his history and his credibility . She would be uncovering so much on him that Fox would put her on their payroll .
She is a literary genius and unbelievably opinionated and I KNOW if she would just find out half of what we know about Obama , she would expose him for the corrupt, lying , devious ,facade of a leader he is …
I don’t know if she will even read my e-mail , but , if she does , and if she does the research that I know she can do , she will be over here running circles around me on this board ….
I think I’ll light a candle about it ..
Yeah, you’re right, the dude needs to put a line over the O.
Although, I doubt that the Obots would want to wear it, his supporters are offended and upset over McCain calling him ‘That One’.
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#24 Ario on 10.08.08 at 8:46 am mick
will that be mistaken as a supporter?
#404 slyt2
Damn this guy is dogging on Chris Matthews he said he is a embarrassment to journalism. He said you can’t really call him a journalist and if he would just put a Obama button on and say I am here for Obama I would have more respect for him it’s sickening….lmao I’m loving it , I guess Chrissy Matthews must have gushed over BO again last nite.This guy also took a good stab at “his side kick ” Keith O (his words not mine).. Said they are both embarrassing….
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http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/television/chris_matthews_interviews_his_daughterwithout_disclosing
mick
i understand but i dont think anyone who cant save up enough money for a legitmate id should be even near a voting booth…in my opinion voting is the least of their issues.
from indianapolis …now in dc
imustprotest,
send your email to:
admin@lightsongfilms.com
#40 Ario,
I totally agree. No ID=No Vote IMO.
Lorey #33, what do you suggest?
Last night on CNN, there were several people in their ‘undecided’ group who said the Bill Ayers connection might stop them from voting for Obama. This tells me that exposing that aspect of Obama is effective.
I think an election is something like sitting on a jury. If you have one candidate about which you have no doubts about, and another that you have many doubts about, whether it be competence, or integrity, or policy, then you will be more prone to vote for the one about whom you have less doubts. What McCain has to do is instill DOUBT about Obama in the minds of the electorate.
#39 gumbykat nothing comes up but The specified request cannot be executed from current Application Pool
You know I don’t believe for a moment anybody does not have a photo ID, you have to either a state ID or a drivers license , to do anything you have to have one, poor or rich, so these people who claim not to have one are lying. To get welfare/food stamps any kind of government assistants you have to show a photo ID.
Why MO is on the http://www.cnn.com/ day after day?
Fashion show?
So far McCain still gain more trust in resolving financial crises. Yes, this Country fundamentals is strong; it has the top GDP in the world. Fundamentals would not change in days, weeks. McCain is right. Fraud and greedy must stop elsewhere.
There are many bad guys hold tons of cash, they are waiting to jump in, so do not panic and do not let them take advantage of innocent people.
#23 mick
This is were I remember hearing “that one” be for.
“That one.”
“Greedy Murmur of Little Men”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N77uqGZPUPw
Ario,
I grew up in KY, and moved to Indiana after I married. Out of the last 36 years, I have spent about 27 here in Indiana.
What do you do in DC?
Good mourning Pumas.
went to IU for music now teach and play in dc
Claire McCaskill: I spit on it
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/claire-mckaskill-i-spit-on-it/
sarah should bring up corsi being held in kenya today
nobody was held in alaska when his goons went on a search mission!
LMAO OMG SparkforHill did you see the Quick Vote
Who would make a better first lady?
Cindy McCain 13% 1538
Michelle Obama 87% 10076
Total Votes: 11614
This is not a scientific poll
what a crock of sh*t… Everyone go vote too funny
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
sly
can u imagine that ones wife running loose around the world trying to be a voice of reason…how sickening!
#55 slyt2 on 10.08.08 at 9:14 am
If you ever needed proof that cnn polls are fake. Here it is! Either that or only 13% of people are in their right mine!
Received this from the McCain HQ this morning:
All: Here’s background on the new plan John McCain announced tonight to keep families in their homes, avoid foreclosures, save failing neighborhoods, stabilize the housing market and attack the roots of our financial crisis.
AMERICAN HOMEOWNERSHIP RESURGENCE PLAN
John McCain will direct his Treasury Secretary to implement an American Homeownership Resurgence Plan (McCain Resurgence Plan) to keep families in their homes, avoid foreclosures, save failing neighborhoods, stabilize the housing market and attack the roots of our financial crisis. America’s families are bearing a heavy burden from falling housing prices, mortgage delinquencies, foreclosures, and a weak economy. It is important that those families who have worked hard enough to finance homeownership not have that dream crushed under the weight of the wrong mortgage. The existing debts are too large compared to the value of housing. For those that cannot make payments, mortgages must be re-structured to put losses on the books and put homeowners in manageable mortgages. Lenders in these cases must recognize the loss that they’ve already suffered.
The McCain Resurgence Plan would purchase mortgages directly from homeowners and mortgage servicers, and replace them with manageable, fixed-rate mortgages that will keep families in their homes. By purchasing the existing, failing mortgages the McCain resurgence plan will eliminate uncertainty over defaults, support the value of mortgage-backed derivatives and alleviate risks that are freezing financial markets.
The McCain resurgence plan would be available to mortgage holders that:
• Live in the home (primary residence only)
• Can prove their creditworthiness at the time of the original loan (no falsifications and provided a down payment).
The new mortgage would be an FHA-guaranteed fixed-rate mortgage at terms manageable for the homeowner. The direct cost of this plan would be roughly $300 billion because the purchase of mortgages would relieve homeowners of “negative equity” in some homes. Funds provided by Congress in recent financial market stabilization bill can be used for this purpose; indeed by stabilizing mortgages it will likely be possible to avoid some purposes previously assumed needed in that bill.
The plan could be implemented quickly as a result of the authorities provided in the stabilization bill, the recent housing bill, and the U.S. government’s conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It may be necessary for Congress to raise the overall borrowing limit.
so the good ol naacp is saying baning early voting discriminates against blacks and hispanics…and my fellow blacks wonder why i hate the naacp!
I love it….instead of calling him “The One” we all need to call him “That One” now…LOL.
Oh, and the though of that ill mannered, hulking, poor postured, sack of hatred MO walking around our white house is repulsive.
Oh god I know that’s what is so dang funny about it, Cindy McCain has more class in her pinky then that woman Michelle has in her whole body. God no Ario I couldn’t imagine that at all. LOL.
#52 Notyoursweetie where did you see that about that crazy love struck(in love with BO) nutjob spitting on something before giving it to Romney what a freaking nasty a*s b*tch.
HEY Foxnews is going to have some good stuff coming up , not sure when but they were talking about all of it (covering it this hour) you may want to turn it on.
now pumas no “B” words…we are above that!
TURN IT ON FOX
07 Oct 2008 11:33 pm
A New Slogan
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/a-new-slogan.html
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#64 slyt2
what’s on Fox?
#44 murphy on 10.08.08 at 9:06 am
Lorey #33, what do you suggest?
I guess they don’t have a answer there for you Murphy because I would have loved to hear it, as far as I know we are all busting our humps to get BO not elected from morning till nite.
#58 girlsrule on 10.08.08 at 9:20 am
AMERICAN HOMEOWNERSHIP RESURGENCE PLAN
I hope this doesn’t come back to bite McCain in the A$$. Alot of people who bought their home in the last 5 years now have “negative equity”, and have made every payment. Some people are not going to be happy about paying for this.
#12 Ario & #31 Deep South – Thanks for signing and I will repost.
#66 Dances – You are awesome!
Ignore the polls
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My comment
#73 DancesWithPumas on 10.08.08 at 9:34 am
is in moderation
Thank you Murphy!!
#68 mimi1020 well they just covered that boy who hacked into Palins account but my mind just drew a total blank on what they said. I’m sorry I can’t remember something about being found guilty going to court or went to court..
OMG is anyone watching fox news Newsweek has Palin on cover and the picture is not good (they made BO look great and didn’t retouch Palin’s at all ) People are pissed off.
#70 mkp651…it is my fear as well. It is my thoughts that McCain could have wrapped this thing up by voting NO on the bailout. That would have put Obama on the side of Bush and against the wishes of most Americans. Why he did not do this is beyond all my comprehension. Of course there is the flip side of that coin. Had he voted no, it may have influenced more house republicans to do the same and when it didn’t pass, and the markets kept falling, as they are now, he would be getting the blame for standing in the way of “bailing us (or should I say the gov’t), out of this mess. I guess it is a double edged sword as no one would have predicted the markets to continue to drop after the bill passed. I am going to stay strong, keep my head up for I feel in my heart there will be an October surprise no one has yet predicted. Nobama has far too many skeletons in his closet to keep them hidden away. Problem is the entire MSM is batting for him and that is proving to tough to fight against. Let’s stay positive however, WE CAN DO THIS!!!!!
As having been in a position that required individuals to have an ID one would always be amazed at the excuses that get used for not having one…..Without one anyone can attempt to use anyones idenity. Most of the time it is their children and sometimes its their neighbor or anyone they can make up….
The addresses on the ID holds alot of information as to where this person has been. If the register is interested enough most of the time people that do this type of activity are also wanted by law enforcement….check it out and put them in jail and this would stop alot of the fraud.
newsweek…yikes
Megan Kelly said they connected Newsweek but they didn’t answer back about picture. I guess BO’s picture was clear that it had been retouched (which all close up pictures usually are) but with Palin’s it was not. Hmmm maybe I will be doing a little prowling this morning. I don’t doubt for a moment they did it on purpose , remember that photo of McCain that woman admitted not touching it up and made him look bad on purpose.
i mean they gave slick rick a halo….hello!
talking about James Corsi right now somebody tipped off officals in Kenya that he was coming and gonna make trouble or something like that, he will be on foxnews tomorrow and now they are talking about voter fraud again.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003806904_webvotefraud26m.html
This ACORN voter fraud case is old news in Seattle. Keep in mind the Gov. Gregoire (Democrat) won the election by 130 votes most of which were found in the Seattle cour house basement in a sealed ballot box that they forgot to count several weeks after the election. She took over the office before the court case was decided.
68 mimi1020 well they just covered that boy who hacked into Palins account but my mind just drew a total blank on what they said. I’m sorry I can’t remember something about being found guilty going to court or went to court..
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They just indicted him. Could face up to 5 years in prison.
palin should take the high road and ask the feds to back off that kid that hacked her
#70 mkp651
I don’t like it.
I know state and county needs the taxes from the homes so I see why but I don’t like it.
#76 girlsrule on 10.08.08 at 9:38 am
I agree with you, but I would have been happier if his plan would have been to lower rates and extend the life of the loan 10 to 15 years. From a 30 year to a 40 or 45 year. But to just forgive this debt will hurt all and take longer to recover from. My concern is that they will value the home around what this people can afford and all property values will dive even more!
O.K. PUMAS:
It is time to unsubscribe from NEWSWEEK. I canceled my subscription to TIME because of their obvious promotion Of Obama NOW NEWSWEEK IS DOING THE SAME-PUTTING AN UNFLATTERING PHOTO OF GOVERNO. Also the cover statement, –SHE’S ONE OF US AND THAT’S THE PROBLEM–.I didn’t put the statement in quotes because I wasn’t quite sure of the exact words of the first part, but it expresses exactly what the statement meant. You can read the whole article on line. No need to buy the magazine.
COVER STORY: POLITICS
The Palin Problem
Yes, she won the debate by not imploding. But governing requires knowledge, and mindless populism is just that—mindless.
#83 gumbykat gosh thank you my mind went totally blank, that is scary I think I’m trying to do housework, type here, read what’s being wrote and listen at the same time.lol.
#84 Ario she didn’t press the charges it;s a federal crime I believe and out of her hands anyways. I could be totally wrong
…that should be Governor Palin..!!!!
85 shampoovta on 10.08.08 at 9:50 am #70 mkp651
I don’t like it.
I know state and county needs the taxes from the homes so I see why but I don’t like it.
——————————————————————–Their is going to be less tax revenue in state and county coffers as a result of this. What a mess!
Boy, reading your posts so early, I am tired already. Back to bed for me and Fred.
LadyHawkke is on a roll – great job…
One of us is already off to a LA to pick up flyers… Yaaa !
Labels are ready to go as soon as it arrives.
Some people still forgot to send their addresses..
Please check your email…
http://www.newsweek.com/id/38584
On left hand side towards middle, that is the picture of palin (too small to see how bad ) but if you want you can click on the picture and read the article also
#77 — I like Mick’s idea. A state issued picture ID when you register.
It can be COMPLETELY divorced from law enforcement, drivers license etc. There can be state laws preventing police from interfering with or hindering a person’s right to vote.
just because you’re homeless doesnt mean you can’t vote. Just because you have a warrant for an unpaid water bill doesnt mean you cant vote. Just because you skipped jury duty doesnt mean you cant vote.
Even being a convicted felon doesnt mean you lose your right to vote (depending on state and crime). The problem isnt that poor people or people somewhat “outside” the law want to vote — they SHOULD vote. Community groups and the Dem Party SHOULD be increasing the turnout in these communities — it’s good for democrats for goodness sake.
the problem is Fraud and Cheating. The Dems want the benefit of increased registrations without the responsibility.
Every public high school in America turns around thousands of photo-id’s for their students every year. It takes them about 3 days to do it.
There is no good reason not to equip every registration place with an id camera and printer. It’s hogwash.
Does the U.N. need an invitation to oversee elections?
I will no longer applaud CARTER’S efforts to oversee elections in foreign countries. I am certain he will make no effort in our elections because he is totally in the tank for Obama.
shampoovta #85 — I hear ya. Maybe think of it this way — Lots of millionaires made foolish, greedy, selfish, stupid, and irresponsible decisions in the last 10 years.
Many regular working people also did.
Congress has already agreed to rescue the Millionaires from their bad choices — because if the taxpayers dont bail them out it will be bad for all of us (or so we’re told).
Why are we rescuing millionaires from their own bad choices but not working people?
doesnt seem fair.
but then again, as my auntie always told me — life isn’t fair. there is no fair.
Work time fun.
See ya Pumas
LMAO OMG SparkforHill did you see the Quick Vote
Who would make a better first lady?
Cindy McCain 13% 1538
Michelle Obama 87% 10076
Total Votes: 11614
This is not a scientific poll
what a crock of sh*t… Everyone go vote too funny
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
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isnt larry king too old to have a show LOLOLOLO just kidding…
I found it very interesting that the two ladies never got around to shaking hands…I also found it rather telling that when mccain and obama did shake hands after the the debate Cindy was standing by her man, and Michelle found it necessary to be shaking hands with the audience as if she was just to busy to bother…I dont blame the McCains for leaving the stage, they should enough hands…they were to be in Penns today, the Obama’s just had to go down the street to an Al Gore fundraiser…lo , la la la l al yeah that one
just so you know
the fox polls always has more than 40,000 pollers
while it seems the best cnn can do is maybe 10,000
at best
Mexico issues a picture Voter ID with holograms & fingerprints. Plenty of countries use indelible purple ink on voters’ thumbs. Why can’t the US do anything like that?
Another crook in Obamas list of friends:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/you-got-to-know/#more-5298
As a real estate appraiser I can tell you all : PROPERTY VALUES ARE DROPPING AND WILL CONTINUE TO DROP FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS!
The reason: Property values inflated at more than 4 times the general inflation rate itself. That means the economy in general could not support the rise in property values. Creative financing created a housing boom. The supply did not keep up with the demand. Now there is no demand. People are just walking away because they cannot afford the payments, or they could not afford the house to start with. Some could stay with the property if the value were to be reset at the amount the property is worth today. If the house goes into the market as a repo, that will push prices down even more. If we can refinance at a lower value all the bank will lose is that chunk of equity at the top, probably less than 20%. If it goes on the market as a repo, the bank may lose two or three times as much.
McCain’s plan makes sense.
good afternoon pumas
OMG, ario did not to bed last night
#101 Henerietta – I agree.
TEXAS…REMEMBER CARRIE!!!
I am sure that it was due to your influence that she did the proper investigation before changing her allegiance. Not that you directly influenced her, but you certainly influenced her enough to move her to challenge her support for “THAT ONE”. Perhaps your friend will take that road. We can hope!
Everyone,
Help me spread this.
Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of Socialist “New Party” In 1996.
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/web-archives-confirm-barack-obama-was.html
Son of Tennessee Democrat State Senator Indicted for Hacking Sarah Palin’s Personal E-Mail:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_el_pr/palin_hacked
Faces $250,000 fine and five years in jail. Can’t imagine how his parents feel about their little Obot.
There I am “squeezed” again between MURPHY’S posts !
I guess there are worst places I could find myself.
Today’s national polls are beginning to move in the right direction, and this was BEFORE last night’s debate!
Rasmussen Tracking 10/05 – 10/07 3000 LV
BO -51 MC -45 (BO +6)
Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking 10/05 – 10/07 1220 LV BO – 47 MC – 45 (BO +2 )
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/05 – 10/07 904 LV
BO – 45 MC – 44 (BO +1)
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/02 – 10/07 800 LV
BO -49 MC – 45 (BO +4)
I knwo I am late to the party but I am going to dish on Michelle a little bit. I think she is unattractive. No big. My who is more charitably disposed than I, mentioned my opinion to one of her friends. The girl jumped to Michelle’s defense saying the she is , “Beautiful.” My sister said that she didn’t really have an opinion but she noticed that Mrs. Chosen One, “doesn’t smile very much.” her friend replied, ” Well that’s because she has those teeth and that one funny eye.” Huh? This is the beautiful one you are talking about right? I don’t know why I had to share that but I think it says something about the brainwashing that is going on here.
Welp, my meager retirement fund has now slid from
12% down to 17%, and my home has lost $175k in value.
I think McCain et al should bailout my retirement before before bailing out fatcats, house flippers, and moronic home buyers.
Oops, my sister is the one who related the story. Some proof reader I am! I guess I am the one with thte one funny eye!
Murphy
I did not say that they should not be egilibe to vote all I was saying is to make sure they are who they say that they are. I had the same person to use at least 13 different names and addresses.
I apologize if I led you to believe anything else..
I don’t think Obama is a thug, he is surrounded by thugs, that much is certain. To me Obama is a wussy and a dullwit, I don’t believe Obama has the stones that many think he does……WAKE UP AMERICA THIS GUY IS A LIGHTWEIGHT!
109 NeverMore
Are you saying that the right direction is one in which Ok_nowwe’refucked is ahead in the polls?
So – I’m in PA. My sister-in-law stopped in yesterday and had a lovely story to tell. Apparently, members of the Obama cult are out rounding neighborhoods door-to-door. They knocked on the door, and proceeded to ask her who she was voting for… and that they wanted to discuss all the greatness of Obama. She couldn’t get them to leave and finally had to slam the door in their faces. Nice, real nice. Ugh. I’m hoping no one comes knocking on my door – I’ll have to sick the dogs on them.
Good Morning All
It took me all morning to read all the reactions to last night’s debate. It sounds as if PUMAs think McCain won.
Right?
#110 DancesWithPumas on 10.08.08 at 10:17 am
I agree. $175k OMG do you live in California?
107 just.words… on 10.08.08 at 10:15 am Son of Tennessee Democrat State Senator Indicted for Hacking Sarah Palin’s Personal E-Mail
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They’ll give the man a sentence of two momnths community service and suspend his computer privileges for a month. Males who hacked into Nasa and the Pentagon got about as much. (“Boy will be boys”, etc.)
118 mkp651
Yes. California. (sandy eggo)
#99, kevink
the truth is that of the modern democratic countries, USA inconceivably does not have the most just,trustworthy voting system and voting machinery
AMPD unaffiliated
Obama’s people come to my door, this “bitter clinger” redneck gun-nut will greet them with .357 Magnum in their face…
not at all ceacea — I know what you meant, and I totally agree. It should not be more difficult to buy a six-pack of beer than it is to vote in this country.
I totally agree with you — therefore you must be right!
DWP #114,
Absolutely NOT!! The right direction is a drop in the point spread for NOBO and McCain inching up. He was leading by 6-8 points in some of these polls just yesterday.
#110 DancesWithPumas on 10.08.08 at 10:17 am
That explains it. Sold a home in Napa in 06 and now there is a home on the same street selling for 250K less than what I sold for.
happy morning! So glad to see the ACORN news!
We need to get to Fox the story of ACORN and Obama’s Project Vote share the same address, phone number and hiring pool. Yesterday someone posted a link to this.
I’m sorry, I’ve gotta run, I volunteer in the kids’ class on weds.
Bless you all!
yes mamapuma #116, but we’re all brainwashed racists here so
DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING WE SAY!!!
nah — McCain was definitely stronger. Riverdaughter has a very funny take on why the msm insists that Obama won (hint: it has something to do with his penis not falling off. But then again RD is a racist too, so . . .)
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/wednesday-his-penis-didnt-drop-off/
The housing prices are still very high and over valued even now. In large part thanks to flippers and people thinking that they can afford over $500,000 homes making average joe wages and greedy realtors. Makes me mad that they have screwed it for others.
#100 KarlaforHillary oh thank you for that article I haven’t heard that one covered yet so I sent it on it’s merry way to all the media ( i think they get worried if they don’t get a email from me everyday anyways)Does anyone have a email for Newsweek I think they are feeling a little left out this morning..lol
Explosive! Judge orders Obama to produce birth certificate
Posted by adminat October 4, 2008Read from the court document
The flap began in June when National Review’s Jim Geraghty raised the question and asked the Obama Campaign to release a copy of his birth certificate in order to prove that he actually was born in the United States…….
Judge orders Obama to produce birth certificate.
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
i love nicfit’s puma name. very nice.
mkp61: DONT RUB IT IN YOU SON OF A GUN!!
If we had sold our house in 06 we’d be livin LAHGE right now.
boohooobooboohoo.
124 NeverMore
Oh, whew.
I don’t put much credence in polls, or anyone, or anything else these days. My cycnicism has overpowered me. I trust the Pumas that I’ve trusted almost from the beginning, and there are less than ten of them.
PS Don’t confuse trust with like. I like many many more than the ‘less than ten” I trust.
Henerietta
I also agree with you, I have been saying this for months….The government already signed a bill and we hold this paper already. I do not believe McCain worded it properly, he should have reiterated that we already own them, thanks to this bill, now let’s make these banks culpable. It is better to rework these loans and get some sort of payment rather than NO payment at all. I would say to the banks you will get some bailout dollars when you rework these loans, sure seems better to me than a bunch of foreclosures, the banks are in trouble over this mortgage crap, I say make them eat their own crap.
Murphy
THANKS for answering. I read alot and talk alot but write very little as I am not very computer savy….I just remember when I moved and it seemed that it took forever to change voting areas. I do know that I had to show an ID and that I would be allowed to vote in the Next election. Not the same day…
Therefore each area has their own election board and to register people is their job NOT groups traveling like ACORN.
Murphy
THANKS for answering. I read alot and talk alot but write very little as I am not very computer savy….I just remember when I moved and it seemed that it took forever to change voting areas. I do know that I had to show an ID and that I would be allowed to vote in the Next election. Not the same day…
Therefore each area has their own election board and to register people is their job NOT groups traveling like ACORN.
sistermoon3 — i think that was a rumor from last week that was dubunked.
#115 AMPD unaffiliated
Similar thing happened to a co-worker’s brother 2 weeks ago here in NEPA. Listen to this…
He was spending the day at his mom’s house doing repairs, getting annoyed with her because before he could finish one repair, she was telling him what else needed fixing. He went out on her front porch for a break, was approached by a campaign worker (didn’t know who the girl was campaigning for at the time). When she started talking he cut her off, said he didn’t have time to listen to her and to get the he** away from him. She left.
Just before 11pm that night, the local police, FBI and secret service was at his mother’s front door asking if he lived there. Mom gave them his address. a few blocks away They showed up at his house after 11, and started questioning him about making threats on THAT ONE’s life. He has 1 nephew in Afghanistan, 1 in Iraq, and a brother who trains special forces prior their deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan! He told the Secret Service that they might want to investigate how they were “all duped by a teenage girl” falsely accusing him of threatening a presidential candidate’s life. He didn’t even notice WHO she was campaigning for!
Can you imagine?
#128 slyt2
oh thank you for that article I haven’t heard that one covered yet so I sent it on it’s merry way to all the media ( i think they get worried if they don’t get a email from me everyday anyways)
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LOL — you’re welcome and thanks to you for sending it on.
130 murphy on 10.08.08 at 10:30 am
I’m sorry I didn’t mean to sound like I was rubbing it in. I just have the advantage of age to have been able to do it. Lots of people saw the writing on the wall in California and left. That state is in trouble big trouble.
turn on fox
128 freddiebrown
I bought this house 10 years ago. Property values increased steadily and reasonably, (I live in one of the top ten neighborhoods in the US, and this city is one of the top 5 retirement relocation destinations for baby boomers), until presidentiablebush gave the mortgage companies the green light. Not long after, all hell started breaking loose.
Her attack came as it emerged that Ms Palin is a distant cousin of Princess Diana. The Alaska governor is a 10th cousin of the mother of Princes Harry and William.
Ms Palin is a also ninth cousin once removed of President Franklin D. Roosevelt according to genealogists at Ancestry.com.
Last year, current American vice president Dick Cheney’s wife, Lynne, discovered her husband was related to Barack Obama.
She said the relationship was eighth cousin, though the Chicago Sun-Times has traced it as ninth cousins once removed.
Good Morning All! New here. I’m another former Democrat (and I say this with sadness) who’s finally come to understand that my Party no longer wants me. I’m not only voting McCain/Palin this year, I’ve changed my registration to the Reps as well.
God Bless Sarah Palin and may she yet drag ohnny Mac over the finish line.
Love the comments here and looking forward to being here!
Ciao!
the person that was attacking sarah palin was
Brigitte Bardot’s scathing attack on Sarah Palin… who, it turns out, is Princess Diana’s cousin
dwp and freddie — we have friends in delmar who bought a gorgeous house up on a hill, walk to the beach etc etc.
but they paid a LOT for it — is delmar in trouble too?
#118 DancesWithPumas
You may well be right.
“Boys will be boys” strikes me as a plausible explanation for the many dopey, testosterone-driven and harmless stunts that the members of my gender are prone to. However, when this cliche is proffered as an excuse for criminal behavior it falls very flat, imho.
Each time a crime is committed and no real penalty is levied, the stage is set for the next offense.
“Boys will be boys” will be NObama’s response if he is ever pinned down regarding William Ayer’s and his ‘chidhood’ enthusiasm for blowing things up!!
A Republican friend of mine sent me this in an e-mail, he couldn’t tell me the origin.
Has this been debunked already? It all sounds plausible but good crap usually does. Can anyone confirm or refute this?
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. “Barry” (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a “round the world” trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question – Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York . It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack – not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ? It’s not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York .
By “chance” he met Antoin “Tony” Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named “Entrepreneur of the Decade” by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association”. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law School ? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis , M iner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented “Rezar” which Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago . In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with “seed money” for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).. With ALL those Student Loans – Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was “sacked” after the press found out he was having regular contacts with “Hamas”, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back p art of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq , he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will “Take care of things”.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those “small” Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on “This Week” with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, “My Muslim faith”. When questioned, “he make a mistake”. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it – Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times – Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times – September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question – If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our “intelligent” membe rs of the press been reporting this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – “Beware of the enemy from within”!!!
Thanks
I’m the eleventh cousin twice removed of a potato farmer in Dingle.
Cults and fascists always get their followers to do the dirty work. The first thing the followers do is to go overboard in their actions whenever someone challenges them. The dictator of the cult leader does not even have to instruct them, they will do it on their own out of loyalty or love or a sick sense of thougts of being in the right so much that everyone and everything else is wrong.
These kids who have been trained as community organizers are indoctrinated in these techniques to the point where reality is not a part of their psyche. That young lady who is involved in getting the secret service involved probably got her feelings hurt, reported it to her supervisor, who blew it way out of porportion and called the authorties. The kid probably had been taught the in your face techniques and had been told that she was to push her agenda no matter what someone said to her. When she was asked to leave, she thought she was being attacked.
What a mess this nation will be in if this dictator takes over!
125 mkp651
Ohhhhhhhh Napa! I love Napa (well, I love love love Northern California). Spent lots of time off Oakdale Road (oakdale rd? can’t recall now.) Had a friend who owned a small retreat there. Spent one year going up periodically to learn the grape to wine process… winter trimming, picking, sugar testing, sending to vintner for crushing and bottling.
Mud baths and massages in Calistoga, and that incredible Italian Restaurant… The Laundry?? Made their own olive oil. Yumadumdum
#146 murphy
Hilarious!!!!!
OH this is gross please read this and tell me if it’s true or a nasty joke???
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCaskills_edge.html
Good morning, puma friends. Must start by saying that I love the picture at the top of this thread.
Oakville road. My husband retired and now works at a spa in Calistoga. He wasn’t ready to move to the desert yet. The French Laundry. Its the restaurant Cheney tried to get into without a reservation and was told NOT!
Oakville Cross Road
A note about buying and selling your major assets (home, retirement fund): if at all possible it is best not to time markets.
Heidi Li! How’s the ad going?
Are you still looking to air a spot during the World Series?
Megan Kelly just said emails are pouring in over Newsweek picture, she said people are mad and the emails just keep coming.. When are these reporters and others going to learn the public doesn’t let you get away with this kind of gutter reporter and unfair treatment.
The reason for not trying to time markets with major assets: most people get the timing wrong. And if you had a bunch of cash from home you sold 3 years ago, you probably would have put it in the stock market and look where you would be now.
i heard that sly2 — ugh.
classy!
Hello Murphy. Big news on the ad: We just managed to reserve time for a spot (local) buy in game one of the World Series.
We have raised about 3500 toward the overall need for 12,000.
Today the Nixon/Obama ad runs in Missouri – KC and St. Louis.
an eggsellent point heidi — we’d probly have spent it all on wine women and song!
that’s great Heidi!
Where’s the link to help get it on the air?
And…I’ve finally seen the preview of the ad we have on Obama’s unsuitability as a leader on the economy. It is amazing. But we feel we can’t run it until the last week before the election unless and until we get to at least the half way point toward the 12 thousand.
sry, guess I need more coffee. what newsweek picture?
brb.
mkp651 on 10.08.08 at 9:51 am #76 girlsrule on 10.08.08 at 9:38 am
My concern is that they will value the home around what this people can afford and all property values will dive even more!
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Yeah this could really drive prop. value down and local taxes up.
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Where is the help for the small construction business owner. From construction subs, the small business selling construction materials, painters etc, …….most are blue collar workers. I know many of them. All just trying to keep their home because of NO WORK due to this housing mess.
I know 40-50yr old tiles guys, trim guys, cabinet guys who are mowing lawns. They are having to go to food banks, canceled health ins for their family, sold personal goods, just to pay their mortgage. Plus they are competing with illegals now for jobs.
Gee, if we are helping EVERYONE who has a bad loan how about helping the working people whos lives have been f**kd because of it.
AMERICAN HOMEOWNERSHIP RESURGENCE PLAN
McCain wants to spend $300 billion to buy up bad mortgages ….
Conservatives are so PISSED OFF about McCain’s idea!!!
Plain and simple, HE WANTS TO EXPAND THE BAILOUT!! He wants to do what ACORN wants to do.
This is a BAD, BAD, BAD IDEA!
Michelle Malkin does a good job explaining it all here – http://michellemalkin.com/
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hillfan — I think the idea is that if most people KNOW they’ll be able to stay in and afford their homes, then the construction workers and home improvement suppliers will be busy again as people re-focus on maintenance and upkeep.
but no matter what, there’s lean times ahead for anyone connected with housing. Just ask Henerietta.
thanks Heidi!
mick — but the republicans will still vote for him, right?
Obama is going to WIN even if it means cheating, we are just gearing up for the inevitable, the media has worked this entire thing into a fiasco, as has the DNC and McCain still is holding back and I am not sure why, maybe he has decided that he really doesn’t want this job as President with the mess that will be inherited…
I feel sick, and I am just taking my money out of the bank converting all my investments and cashing out my retirement….I am also buying MORE GUNS…..
144 murphy
Delmar is an affluent area…
home of the famous Delmar Race Track.
Everyone in California has been hit… it’s just that the affluent can more easily absorb losses and sustain themselves and their lifestyles. (Good for them.)
It’s the rest of us that are sensitive to the changes.
Direct relief to mortgage holders, if handled sensibly, could provide short term stabilization for millions of homeowners and, over time, as property values rise again, the gov’t could actually make a profit when it resells the mortgages.
Worked for FDR, no reason it wouldn’t work now.
To work now!
#164 hillfan4mccain on 10.08.08 at 10:54 am
I think you made my point better than I did! I agree 100% with you, I also know people who are doing the same. Some working 2 and 3 jobs. Would never think of walking away. On the other side I know people who knew going into a mortgage that they would not be able to afford it when it adjusted and are jumping for joy.
146 Murphy
We don’t even talk to people from Dingle. It’s Galway and Leitrim all the way.
pretjene! not a good plan!!
you dont need guns.
#163 murphy Newsweek has Palin on cover and the picture is not good (they made BO look great when he was on cover and didn’t even retouch Palin’s at all ) People are pissed off. Letters are being written to Newsweek on website that they are canceling their subscription and people are emailing foxnews. Megan Kelly said Newsweek didn’t return phone calls to comment on picture.
ron4Hills, no that is all accurate, it was basically information on the Hannity reports on Obama’s radical ties….
yeah but I like to say Dingle.
who wouldnt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingle
thanks sly2
#169 murphy on 10.08.08 at 10:58 am
mick — but the republicans will still vote for him, right?
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Yes, while they hold their nose.
This doesn’t make them want to vote for Obama BUT he’s really pissing off his base over this and over him missing so many opportunities to nail BO in the last two debates.
Guns? Why guns? The shoot-out will not come to pass.
Invest in a passport and buy gold or expensive jewelry, best for bribing authorities.
#154 mkp651 am Oakville Cross Road
That’s it, and I made a mistake, it wasn’t the French Laundry, it was something like Travantino’s? They had this amazing dessert… lemon, strawberry, pepper…
seveal disctinct flavors… that exploded in your mouth simultaneously… boggling the mind at the same time.
Anyway… maybe McCain is just being himself…slow and steady, maybe he just isnt into gaming us with flash and razzmadazzle.
Bottom line: no matter which of them wins, by hook or by crook, we still lose.
#127 freddiebrown and many others
Not picking on what you said specifically but need to finally put out there that the mortgage mess is not ALL because of greedy flippers and poor home buyers but also because of deregulation of the mortgage lenders/brokers. They are the professionals and are the ones that approved the subprime mortgages knowing how risky they were. Please spread the blame to everyone that was involved. I hate to see the conservatives turn citizens against each other and not take their share of the blame.
#178 Pretjene
Thanks. I didn’t want to get taken in by something from a Neo-Nazi or Skinhead website.
Thanks.
Hi Pumas
Jumping on for a few minutes. Anyone have a jpeg of the justsaynodeal Acorn diagram? Thanks
#147 HENERIETTA
first they are brainwashed, and then they are programmed; and here they start putting all the trash information and the destruction of the free will, and for here on they will do anything that they are commanded, WE WILL SEE THE DESATROUS RESULTS EVEN IF HE DOES NOT WIN
THE OBAMA DANCE: sorry to make you watch, but you must know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW1hAiK_4UI
#181 mick explain to me how they wanted him to nail him last night. I don’t get it , it was a townhall meeting he had to answer questions if he would have ignored the questioned and just attacked that would not have been fair for the people who wrote in or asked the questions. I mean I’m not getting upset with you i’m just not understanding this was a town hall meeting for Q & A’s.I think John McCain is damned if he does damned if he doesn’t anymore.Kind of like Hillary if he would have been full attack mode everyone on TV would be screaming how negative he is and didn’t tell the people what they wanted to hear.
BigCatLover #183 said “I hate to see the conservatives turn citizens against each other and not take their share of the blame.’
a-yup.
Also some insight on conservatives voting for McCain. I’ve been railing about them not supporting McCain while BO’s party is spinning wildly in his favor. Suspected that there was a reason conservatives were not enthusiastic supporting McC and finally got my answer on C-Span this weekend. A guy named Joseph Farah, a Ronald Reagan lover, wrote a book titled ‘None of the Above’ in which he tells conservatives to let Obama win so that he will run the country into the ground and then the repubs can take over for a very long time. He bases this theory on the fact that after Jimmy Carter was in office for 4 years, Ronald Reagan and Bush I won the WH and Newt and the conservs took over the Congress. He says that never would have happened had Jimmy Carter not been elected. Food for thought.
186 alohapuma…
second one down in teh Media Articles section of teh Action Center
http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
taggles 187, that was more boring than the debate last night.
#166 Heidi Li
$15 on its way from this baseball fan
Democrats For Principle Before Party
Purpose: Nobama ad — Thank you for all your hard work.
Date: Oct. 8, 2008
Time: 08:13:52 PDT
Status: Completed
Nothing could be more boring than the debate last night!
Dances..that’s a link to the justsaynodeal site. BillieJo and I have both tried to put it in a jpeg to publish on a flyer. She spent quite a bit of time wth it. I ‘ll give it another shot over the weekend.
I want to do a tri-fold flyer with this diagram in the center.
#182 DancesWithPumas on 10.08.08 at 11:09 am
Guns? Why guns?
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My 75 yr old dad said that same thing the other day. He already has many guns because he’s a hunter but he said that if Obama wins that first thing that he’s going to do is by an AK 47.
I was SHOCKED when he said this … I said WTH? Why? He and many of his old buddies believe that if Obama wins then there’s going to be so much unrest from blacks and whites that it will casue an uprising so he wants to be prepared just in case. He really thinks that Obama has so many radical ties and that there’s going to be a surge in the “black movement” like we had in the 60s and 70s. My dad isn’t so wacko, he’s very politically savvy and he’s very knowledgable on world history and American history. He said that there are many signs for another civil war in this country and that he fears that in his lifetime we will see one.
The way he was talking scared me so I told him to stop talking about it. My dad is kind of a badass cajun but I’ve NEVER heard him talk this way and it really freaked me out.
#187 taggles1 oh lord I went and watched how stupid he probably wrote that dumb song in like 5 minutes he repeated himself over and over again. I wrote a comment i am sure I’ll have 50 negatives by noon..lol.
…step to the left….step to the right….do the dip. Ohhhhhhhh
Hello Fellow PUMAS!
I hear a lot of doom and gloom here today. Let me tell you why I think McCain WILL WIN.
1) According to recent Polls (as per WIOD Radio) 7% of White Americans Just will not vote for an African American.
I DO BELIEVE there is an October Surprise
2) Over 7 Million Former Clinton Supporters (dare I say PUMAS) WILL NOT vote for an Empty Suit.
3) More Anti Oblahma sites and organization than any other in History…..Millions upon Millions of people who VOTE!
4) Who exactly are they polling? Hmmmm….not sure, but – NOT ME (or most of you I bet to gamble).
5) National Polls today average a 3 point lead for Obambi – well within the margin of error.
6) Can you say “THE BRADLEY EFFECT” come voting day.
7) I do not think that McCain is even close to giving up.
9) Attack has only just begun…..
10) and my last conclusion is because I know that most college students or young people will not make it a priority to vote instead of going surfing or drinking all night hung over……
So there you have it……. This is why I believe MCCAIN WILL WIN – SAY IT AND BELIEVE IT – IT IS TRUE!
Rex Features
Madonna has banned US vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin from attending her live shows.
During her ‘Sticky & Sweet’ tour date in New York, the popstar broke from her performance to launch an attack on the Republican politician.
She said: “Sarah Palin can’t come to my party. Sarah Palin can’t come to my show. It’s nothing personal.”
Later in the show, when a technical glitch caused a high-pitched screeching noise, Madonna commented: “Here’s the sound of Sarah Palin’s husband’s snowmobile when it won’t start.”
P. Diddy, Lindsay Lohan and Pink have also declared their dislike for Palin, the running mate of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
Oprah, the view, hell, if this goes on much longer, i will not
have many celebs i will ever support by even given them my time of any day or night
* oh, one more thing, he said it wasn’t just a black/white issue … it’s the far left radical idology that will tip the scale.
Anyone who has ever had an economics course has heard about the supply and demand ratio. If supply goes up or demand goes down prices tend to drop.
The housing market is largely regulated by the supply of money with which to purchase housing. If the supply of money is not there, the demand for housing goes down.
How this mess happened is that the supply of money was abundant to the point where the builders and sellers could not keep up with the demand of ready purchasers. This pushed prices up. I can put my finger on several subdivisions in our area where buyers were bidding as much as 8% above asking price for houses under construction. A completed house in good condition was bringing as much as 11% above asking price. My analysis (for a lawsuit) was that there was a 100% probability that a house in that subdivision would sell at or above asking price. There was a 74% probability that a house would sell at least 4% above asking price. This was in May of 2006.
Some people do not understand the appraisal process. We concern ourselves with the market as of a specific date, even if we know there may be a crash coming, the law requires us to estimate the value on a specific property as of that specific date. What we use to support our value estimate is data from the previous six months, sometimes extended to one year, for that market segment.
The worst case scenario is when someone buys a house at the peak of the market and a few months later, the market has deflated by 10 to 15%. It has happened all over. Is the appraiser to blame? NO. The appraiser is not expected to be clairvoyant. We report history and past trends leading up to the date of the appraisal. If the market crashes the day after the appraisal, we are not responsible.
What you guys didn’t like it? I thought this was the perfect audience for it!
197 alohapuma
The Acorn diagram is on the jsnd site.
**********MURPHY, I love that photo of the mini-puma in her space gear!****************
Let me find my tin-foil hat.
Good morning PUMAs.
#190 BigCatLover
Yeah, I heard about that guy and his book. However, the majority of conservatives love this country too much to willingly let that happen.
197 alohapuma
That Acorn diagram was doen in Flash, wasn’t it?
Can you download, open with Flash and convert images to jpeg? I think there is an option when you publish flash to publish as jpeg.
I have Flash… will try when I get home from wack (c. kat in your hat) this afternoon. (If I remember.)
#186 storytellers on 10.08.08 at 11:15 am #147 WE WILL SEE THE DESATROUS RESULTS EVEN IF HE DOES NOT WIN
You are right. Obama has set back race and gender equality and relationships by at least 100 years, win or lose.
#10 Ario on 10.08.08 at 8:29 am
murphy is it wishful thinking to think that maybe the larry sinclair ordeal might come into play?
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At this point Ario….everything is wishful thinking. I still think the PUMA vote is counted as Democrat vote for Obama because of our past voting history. Where is that tin-foil hat?
Dances…great. I don’t have flash.
Did you ever notice that people are the same all their lives?
Remember when one or two kids in school was picked on and laughed at by the other kids? If you didn’t participate you were castigated and picked on yourself? This appears to be what is happening to Palin. The celebrities are piling on to see which one can be the most outrageous. Palin bashing is simply the TRENDY thing to do with that crowd.
#207 mick
Sorry Mick, but the conservatives are the biggest idealogues in the country matched this year only by the BO supporters who actually blindly follow a person, not a political ideaology.
#201 sistermoon3
Earth to narcissist Madonna … I really doubt that Sarah Palin would ever want to see your S&M show.
While getting ready for work I had on a radio station that is in the tank for obie. Yet…………..all they were talking about were the good lines of McCain. “That one”, and “Nailing jello to the wall”. It was great. They didn’t bash McCain nor praise obie. Maybe it was better for the undecided voters than I though.
Who would have thunk?
Earth to narcissist… I iron your own shirt!
That would be a good button.
#187 taggles1 on 10.08.08 at 11:15 am
That’s what I love ….teaching young people to vote on the issues that matter! DEAR GOD HELP US!!
Oh God……….here come the pre-coffee typos. Sorry.
#214 mick
My thought exactly – sarah Palin would never want to go to a Madonna concert.
DANCES: Since there are so many wonderful and productive PUMAS here, I “kinda” feel I must be left out of your “trust” company. I do , however, do all tne prowls and even add a few of my own. I am just not as talented in the areas that are needed here in order to get thing moving.
“Say it ain’t so, Joe” is back on the campaign trail in Tampa, Florida:
Each time Joe Biden opens his “and I mean this sincerely” pontificating cake hole, all I can see is the Ted Baxter of politics — a strutting, clueless arse who has absolutely no idea just how stupid he is.
In short, the perfect schill for NObama!!
*OMG*…Can someone Puhleeessse tell me how the HELL a candidate with these kinds of associations gets the friggin nomination of his party to become PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES?
You must see this video posted on this website
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/why-did-obama-campaign-for-a-pro-islam-candidate-in-kenya/
From the page:
Odinga Made A Deal with Kenyan Muslims to Institute Islamic Law; Obama Campaigned for Him
[Update: As a reader pointed out, Sharia is an assault on women.]
The video below tells a shocking story of Barack Obama’s involvement, while a US Senator, in the Presidential campaign of Raila Odinga.
Now that Obama has acknowledged having had Kenyan citizenship, it’s time to take another serious look at his recent campaign activities on behalf of Kenyan presidential candidate Raila Odinga, a Muslim sympathizer and leader of the socialist Orange Democratic Movement.
We review the Obama-Odinga campaign collaboration with this central question in mind: As a former Kenyan citizen, does Obama’s open involvement in Kenyan presidential politics raise troubling questions about his loyalties? Apparently Obama traveled to Kenya on official business as a US Senator; the trip was funded by US taxpayers. Odinga’s policy positions were against stated US interests.
Odinga, running on the slogan “Agent of Change,” lost the race for President of Kenya in December 2007 and thereafter led a campaign of widespread ethnic warfare in protest of his loss.
In August 2007, Odinga had signed an agreement with Islamic extremists to institute Islamic Law should he be elected President of Kenya, and he vowed to end cooperation with the United States in the war against terror. WHY did OBAMA actively campaign for him?
Watch the video. It’s 8 minutes long. The first 6 minutes give an excellent overview of Odinga’s bid for President and his socialist background. Obama’s role in Odinga’s candidacy begins at approximately 6:20. It is truly stunning and something that every American voter MUST SEE:
that’s a lotta typos there Billie Jo.
What are you — a racist or something?
bille
at this point just bringing it up would cause a stir…im at the point where i dont care how dirty i have to get to keep that one clear of penn ave. where are those damn sleezy ads when u need em?
I wonder if Obama’s symbol that he use’s(round circle with the sun) is suppose to be something to hypnotize people.
hey cindy moved up a point.. lol these polls are a crock of sh*t.
Quick Vote
Who would make a better first lady?
Cindy McCain 14% 1888
Michelle Obama 86% 11975
Total Votes: 13863
This is not a scientific poll
i was called a racist last week on the subway…lol…i thought it was hysterical..lol
DANCES:
I caught my spelling of “THE” before I hit the submit, but I just wanted to show that there are more ways of msspelling “the” than yours.
I have been dreading to tell you all: the kitty that we tried to rescue died. I managed to keep him alive for 12 days, which, really, as young as he was and as bad a shape as he was in, was a miracle.
I had to be out last Friday afternoon for a while, and when I came back, he was almost gone. I tried hard to revive him, but it was no use.
I know there are some things that are lost causes, but at least I tried. I hope that I gave him some comfort, even for a few brief days.
Just thought you’d like to know.
why Ario? what did you do??
#214 mick
My thought exactly – sarah Palin would never want to go to a Madonna concert.
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And neither would Sarah Palins kids.
aw jeez, henerietta — that’s sad! you sure did give him comfort.
Rex Features
Madonna has banned US vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin from attending her live shows.
During her ‘Sticky & Sweet’ tour date in New York, the popstar broke from her performance to launch an attack on the Republican politician.
She said: “Sarah Palin can’t come to my party. Sarah Palin can’t come to my show. It’s nothing personal.”
Later in the show, when a technical glitch caused a high-pitched screeching noise, Madonna commented: “Here’s the sound of Sarah Palin’s husband’s snowmobile when it won’t start.”
I don’t think Sarah would want to go to a Madonna show anyway. According to Megyn McCain, Sarah’s more of a Kid Rock kinda gal.
Hi,
I am a new PUMA. Just got this message from McCain’s campaign site if you are in the Butler, PA area:
*** Today ***
Sammy Kershaw To Perform At Butler Community College
Attend a free concert and Victory rally with Country music star Sammy Kershaw!
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
Who: Sammy Kershaw,
Gov. Tom Ridge, Lynn Swann, Capt. Jerry Coffee, Former POW
What: Free Concert And Victory Rally
When: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 4:00 p.m. ET
Where: Butler Community College
107 College Dr.
Butler, PA 16002
#200 mimi1020
I hear a lot of doom and gloom here today. Let me tell you why I think McCain WILL WIN.
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I agree with all you points mimi, especially the polls not reflecting PUMA votes.
I also think the ACORN, Ayers etc drama has just begun and when voters get into the booth, those things will bring more doubt about the PovertyPimp. And, are all those people making $250,000 or more a month willing to pay more taxes to ACORN and the bad loan practice of Fannie and Freddie? Are all those Hollywood movies stars happy with earning less for those cause. All small business owners that are having trouble getting credit now, willing to pay more taxes?
I don’t think McCain has any idea of giving up.
I am not sure McCain will win at this point, but I do believe in reality, he is at least 1 point ahead of obie.
I rarely (if EVER) feel the emotion of unadulterated hate, but when I see what this XXXXXXX is getting away with and how seemingly intelligent people are not stopping it, they’re even viciously promoting it, I can’t help it. I think of how my father and uncles fought overseas in WWII to hand over to us a prosperous and free nation where we were proud to call ourselves Americans; and now I see the hurt in their eyes every time this XXXXXXX is spewing his lies and refusing to salute our flag (unless it is politically advantageous, of course).
this is how the larry sinclair drama can play out…
1. show clips of his interview at the national press club
2. show court documents and newspaper clippings
3. show statements from the limo driver
4. show the obituary of that dead gay choir member in that one’s church
5. then show quick pics of all the political slick ricks and their scandal…hence…the rev jesse jasckson and his love child…mayor williams and pics of him being hauled out of that whore house with a crack pipe…and to not be considered racist…bring up john edwards…
6. oh and to add a little more drama play a song by tupac in the background.
7. and make the ad be all about..”could this be possible…who knows we dont know senator obama…so it wouldnt neccessarily be a lie. just a series of questions.
He had started to purr a little, once in a while. I did notice that he really was not gaining weight. He did climb out of his box once in a while, and for a few days, I really thought he might make it. By the time he died, his fur looked better, but I never could get the sore eyes to disappear. I concluded that he was just too young.
I tried to find someone with a mamma cat that had kittens. I had thought maybe a kind mother might adopt him. I had no luck there. I guess I am not cut out to be a cat mamma.
#229 Henerietta
I am sorry for the baby kitty and for the sadness you went though. You gave him more life than he would have had.
Murphy – I think homes in Del Mar, La Jolla area are holding strong – they have not plummeted because the people generally can afford their homes and didn’t go for the 0 down and adjustable loans. Foreclosures are not too common. I had been looking for another property for years but refused to be suckered in by the frenzy. Even now, the real estate agents are putting the pressure on me – its incredible. They too are to blame. I look at the homes on Craigs List quite often.
Dumps are still selling for 400,000 and up. I am talking old, run down with postage yards.
I love the ones in Rancho Santa Fe… (Dances will probably raise her brows as this is the cats meow area) . Lots of land and privacy but still not in the boonies. Salivating over a foreclosure there for 1.6 million – in my dreams.. But generally, I think even though the price of homes have fallen drastically, they
are still not terribly affordable for the average joe in California – not when things have adjusted and loans are back to pre-boom times.
Yes , the govt regulations and the pushing of sub prime loans are the prime culprit in this as we all know.
#233 BillieJo
right on! — but – McCain WILL WIN…….
murphy
http://larrysinclair.org/
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4766
Can anyone find the video of Larry Sinclair at the press club? His site has been scrubbed.
#227 Ario
i was called a racist last week on the subway…lol…i thought it was hysterical..lol
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See, it’s already starting to be less effective, you’re a racist AA, I’m a racist white woman, Murphy is a racist, we are all PUMA racists!
Iron your own damn shirt Obama, ’cause I am a racist!
#213 BigCatLover on 10.08.08 at 11:37 am
Sorry Mick, but the conservatives are the biggest idealogues in the country matched this year only by the BO supporters who actually blindly follow a person, not a political ideaology.
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I’ll try not to be insulted by your comment.
How does this point have anything to do with your original comment about that book? Are you saying that conservatives are going to read this book and blindly follow what this idiot is saying?
Look, many conservatives may not like everything about McCain but we aren’t so disappointed in him that we would help Obama win. More than likely McCain wouldn’t run in 2012 so many in conservative circles are hoping for a Palin/Romney or Jendal/Palin pick in 2012.
murphy
for reading the corsi book…can u believe it? oh and it was by a blk person…lol
#236 Henerietta
So sorry he did not make it. I have a degree in animal health and have tried to rescue baby animals for years. They rarely survive and it is devastating. I now take them to a wildlife center or shelter because they have years of experience and know what to try. I’m sure he knew you were trying to help and felt safe and loved in the end.
http://www.mahalo.com/Larry_Sinclair_National_Press_Club_Conference
a video of natl press club
murphy on 10.08.08 at 10:57 am hillfan — I think the idea is that if most people KNOW they’ll be able to stay in and afford their homes, then the construction workers and home improvement suppliers will be busy again as people re-focus on maintenance and upkeep.
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I agree with you, problem is most in this field dont have much time left. For those in construction this started to hurt them over a year ago. Many went from tighting their belts, to getting denied bank loans cuz they work in construction, to selling the teenagers old car, to having to charge groceries so kids can eat, to no work and NO wiggle room.
EVERY person I know that is in construction 20 plus years has borrowed from other family members, left families behind to pick up some work elsewhere, a few have even moved back home to mom and dad. These are 45yr old men (w/families) moving back to mom and dads. A handful I know are losing their houses. Here, in NC home values have not dropped much, even though they are not selling. The mortgage banks have made it clear they would rather take your home and offer no help. They can still make money on the house, selling it below market even if it sits awhile. I have seen this happen many times over.
#220 lilibet – See post #72. We could use your help!
Some of Corsi’s interview on CSPAN about Obama and Odinga are used in this video:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/why-did-obama-campaign-for-a-pro-islam-candidate-in-kenya/
#241 hillary2008 on 10.08.08 at 11:57 am
Can anyone find the video of Larry Sinclair at the press club? His site has been scrubbed.
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It’s still all over youtube:
Larry Sinclair at the press club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
#243 mick
Further explanation of my point. You said conservatives love their country and would never vote for BO. I’m saying love of their beliefs would make them let BO win so they can regain power for a long time, as they see it. That’s all.
Wait a minute, … Ario baby, another AA called you a racist?? That is sooo funny! You comeback … “well, at least I’m not a f*cktard!”
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#227 Ario on 10.08.08 at 11:43 am
i was called a racist last week on the subway…lol…i thought it was hysterical..lol
#225
Yes. The circle is the universal symbol for “power of suggestion”
On his podium is the circle, then the word change. The suggestion is he is the one to bring change, everyone wants change. The issue is ther is no issue. Change for changes sake. Creepy!
mick
i told him actually….i dont think bill clinton is a racist…i also dont think colin powell is an uncle tom or dr rice is an aunt jemima…those are all statements from the naacp and obamas supporters…i just think he is shallow and sleezy…one of my brothers is sleezy so how does that make me racist…but as all pumas know rational thought isnt possible with the obotrons.
#249 NikkisMom
That video ties Obama to socialism which is what the following article at noquarter does:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/07/obama-is-hiding-a-radical-past/
This is very scary stuff.
#251 BigCat
I understand. But many more are praying and hoping for this scenario …
McCain/Palin 2008
then
Palin/Romney 2012
or
**Jindal/Palin 2012
** my choice
i told u guys about this guy telling me i am one this countries worse blk people…im pretty sure i told u guys this before…anyways…i just got up and moved away.
yuck…romney is another slick one like that one:(
Whisper Campaign :
I think we should spread a whisper campaign. All of us should tell OBAMA FOLLOWERS that there’s no point going to stand in long lines at the polls because Obama is going to win Big Time anyway. The average kool aid suckers may just stay home if he is guaranteed a win.
This would be the antidote to the record turn out for the chosen one.
If you have Obots at home, keep them engaged so they forget to get out and vote. Every effort counts in order to keep Obama from the White House.
There’s going to be historical turn out – don’t let any one tell you differently that Dems usually stay home – this election is not like any other in history.
freddie
no its not…many of those fools are gonna sit at home and look crazy…but it will still be huge.
From CNN Medical Producer Caleb Hellerman
Last month, Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Missouri Democrat and a supporter of Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama, said McCain’s age and skin cancer history were fair game as a campaign issue. “We’re talking about a reality here that we have to face.”
All this skates over the fact that McCain already allowed reporters a peek at eight years worth of health records, dating back to 2000, while Obama has released a one-page summary from his doctor.
McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said it’s a double standard. “The arbiters of this election are not demanding the same level of disclosure about Sen. Obama. He’s essentially running on a doctor’s note. I had a harder time getting out of high school math class.”
Hmmm…is THAT ONE hiding something?
Ario- next time someone calls you a racist, give um a wink and knuckle bump. That should confuse and defuse him.
a must read
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=14015
#257 Ario -
Ario – what makes you so different from the other AA’s that have prostrated themselved at Obama ? It is not too far fetched to say that 99.9% of blacks are voting for Obama. I am just curious. Is it because you are not 100% AA and can’t relate ?
I wanted to ask Wizard that, but I never got around to it and he passed away.
Okay, for me I found the definitive explanation of both sides of the health care issue and then some.
Does this clarifiy things better for my fellow pumas as well:
Obama’s health plan is really slow-motion Medicare for all. And the problem with Medicare-like price controls is that they reduce the number of people willing to provide medical services, which always means longer lines and rationing.
McCain’s health plan has a problem of its own. It is not too radical but too timid. A refundable tax credit of $5,000 per family — in addition to increased cash wages from employers no longer burdened with paying for health care — would help middle-class workers get insurance. But for people on the lower end of the scale — who don’t qualify for Medicaid — the $5,000 credit alone would not be enough to buy adequate coverage, which can cost more than double that amount.
To be a genuine alternative, Republicans should follow their own logic and make the ownership of private health insurance an entitlement. Fund the purchase of a basic health insurance plan completely, through a refundable tax credit, so every low-income American can afford insurance. Help consumers exercise their newfound choice of health plans by requiring the disclosure of comprehensive information on health costs and outcomes.
Universal Medicare is a frightening prospect. But it may be unavoidable unless Republicans can counter the rallying cry “health care for everyone” with a simple and superior alternative: “Health insurance for everyone.”
I have chosen McCain’s plan simply because it isn’t socialism– something I adamently oppose. But the health insurance idea works for me too.
My thanks to the Washington Post for helping me understand, finally and precisely, the health care ideas.
#256 mick
My choice:
McCain-Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
sorry guys but i woke up pissed off today…
here is another bombshell that mr nice guy mccain needs to get his thugs to pull…
1.get up an ad with that nurse from chicago about those babies being aborted alive and left to die..
2. make it r-rated with a 5 second pause so parents can rush the kids out of the room
3. the music should be carmina burana…and have that nurse speak
4. pull up his record in chicago
5. then show babies.
im not anti-choice…im anti-killing babies who come out kicking nd screaming btw.
MURPHY:
this is what I posted much, much earlier.
#87 lilibet on 10.08.08 at 9:53 am
O.K. PUMAS:
It is time to unsubscribe from NEWSWEEK. I canceled my subscription to TIME because of their obvious promotion Of Obama NOW NEWSWEEK IS DOING THE SAME-PUTTING AN UNFLATTERING PHOTO OF GOVERNO. Also the cover statement, –SHE’S ONE OF US AND THAT’S THE PROBLEM–.I didn’t put the statement in quotes because I wasn’t quite sure of the exact words of the first part, but it expresses exactly what the statement meant. You can read the whole article on line. No need to buy the magazine.
COVER STORY: POLITICS
The Palin Problem
Yes, she won the debate by not imploding. But governing requires knowledge, and mindless populism is just that—mindless.
Slate Writer Already Celebrating Obama Election Victory
By P.J. Gladnick
October 8, 2008 – 12:07 ET
You know that old saying about “Don’t count your chickens until they hatch?” Well, Slate senior writer, Timothy Noah, decided to discard that advice and gloat over the “inevitable” Barack Obama victory this November.
more and comments (YIKES!) here:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/slate-writer-already-celebrating-obama-election-victory
freddie
i am 100% aa…my folks are from jamaica and ghana…ancestors got drug here in ships way back in the day…my great-grandfather 93 and lives in a small delta town called Mound Bayou in mississippi…his father and grandfather were slaves. i was raised poor…on welfare..and to very very young parents. throughout my 35 years i have seen the like of That One over and over and over…they are pretty faces…with silver tongues..and completely self serving. they also have a remarkable way of making white people feel soooo good…and then they turn around and trash white people with venom unknown…and we have seen this from obama over and over…they also would sell their soul to the devil for money and power. hense, That One and his terrorist buddiesand exploitation of his own people. in short he is a high class slick rick the poverty pimp type knock off of Sharpton and Jackson.
freddie
You have mail.
Murphy: I do not know if Lorey #33 suggested anything we can do, but I urger that we further and intensely. . address the voter fraud allegations in each of the states mentioned even today, let alone on other days here on the blog. Can an injunction of some kind against ACORN regarding its legal ability to go collect registered votersbe sought or some other legal action be taken in the states we are looking at here ?
Another thought, do we know what Sec of States are Republican or not? They would tend to be more active in this action…or rather, What Attorney General’s are Republican or not? This is one hellava thing to think you have to know what the hell party an elected official is to assure in any election fraud or not….We are already a third world country, simply in this area.
#261 emme I saw that early on CNN i guess Saturday and Sunday they are gonna have past and present presidential candidates are they fit enough. But yea I saw that loud mouth trash talking fawning over BO McCaskill talking . That Dr they always have on CNN said I was one of the doctors who read over the report and McCain was fit to him to run. They then said BO turned in one piece of paper and that was it.
This is just ridiculous…uuuggghhh
McCain Refuses to Shake Hands With Obama
http://robustdebate.multiply.com/journal/item/2322/McCain_Refuses_to_Shake_Hands_With_Obama
“I’m sure die-hard McCain fans will say that “of course you don’t shake hands
with the enemy”. I’m sure I’ll hear character accusations galore, with no
substance whatsoever.
In my opinion, this is childish behavior… but I guess this makes sense in
the same world where you “refuse to sit down and tell it to your enemies because
you didn’t get your ‘preconditions’ “? The same world where after being attacked
you just attack someone else, even if it’s not the person who attacked you? The
same world view that talks the talk but does nothing but not walk the walk.
Here’s my opinion: when I have a problem with someone, I’ll man up. I’ll
go face that one. I’ll look him in the eye, not look the other way. If I’m
wrong, I’ll own up to my mess and clean it. If I’m right, I’ll know why I’m
right, and not just say “I’m right”. I’m not gonna pick on someone else to bully
and pour my frustration on so I can forget about the one I actually have the
problem with.
I’d say the debate is a “sit down” with rules and I’d say
pre-conditions as well… Then McCain acts like a child without manners?
That is not someone who is presidential, that is no leader. That is just a bully who’s had his bluff called, and now is afraid to look the other guy in the eye. McCain’s is broken, he’s lost it. Shameful, tragic and sad. “
#270Ario: You describe very thoroughly some of our most recent mayors and black legislators…Sherman Copelin for one..and Marc Morial, for another. Thank you for stating the truth. Since when is anyone more pure or upright with his or her own people because of their color? White and black sleze politicians have made use of the neediest since the beginning of time.
Or to put it another way: “Ain’t black, white, or inbetween, the COLOR OF GREED IS GREEN!”
I don’t understand this site!
Is everyone here a racist?
OK now I know that I am done for. I wanted to put a laughing smiley face on that comment and did not know how. Dumb PUMA! (now I need a sad one)
Mama
good god…now That One is in my home state spreading his bad energy!
Biden Says Palin’s Comments on Ayers Are ‘Mildly Dangerous’
Joe Biden calls Sarah Palin’s efforts to link Barack Obama to William Ayers “flat malarkey.”
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say it aint so JOe LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOl
#268 lilibet
Good for you cancelling your subscription to Newsweek, but I have to ask ‘what took you so long?’ Newsweek has been outrageously biased for BO this year, even worse than Time and the others.
276 MamaPuma
I don’t understand this site!
Is everyone here a racist?
OK now I know that I am done for. I wanted to put a laughing smiley face on that comment and did not know how. Dumb PUMA! (now I need a sad one)
Mama
omg! please tell me That One is not at my high school! Broad Ripple Center for Performing Arts!
Wow! Only ONE thread change this morning. Murph must be sleeping in.
281 Ario GM (((((Ario))))) Let me know when ur leaving for Argentina~~~maybe I’ll go along. LOL
277 Ario I didn’t know D.C. is a state. lol Must be one of BO’s 57.
hey mountain baby
im just a little hysterical today…if i didnt have to work i would have started this day off with baileys and coffee:(
My suggestion for the next debate:
They give it to O-ssiah because they wanted to see a nasty knock-down dragout dirty laundry WWF fight……..and then they would say McCain was nasty and dirty and negative.
I think the next debate should be a no holds barred WWF ring cage match…winner take all….even with McCain’s age and bad arm he could still throw him out of the ring and knock him out.
mountain
i was born and raised and went to college in indiana…and That One is in indiana now:(
275 NewOrleansPuma Ya mean the Green Party is greedy? lol
The harsh reality is that nothing ever proposed by any candidate can solve our health care crisis.
The most successful health care systems are all run as a governmental service. They are not farmed out to subcontractors, they are not pay per service, they simply ARE.
We need to start moving toward a civilian medical corps model. It starts with expanding medical schools and recruiting high school students to be a part of the system. They should be educated at no cost to them, then required to work, for a salary, in the medical corps. Then we should do the same with nurses. We should do a nurse to doctor education plan that would allow RNs to move on into medical school is they desire. Part of our problem is a shortage of doctors. That keeps salaries high, and medical school expenses astronomical.
We should set this up like the Military Medical Schools and corps. The graduates get a salary. The facilities where they work are government run, with everything bought wholesales, with no billing system. If you are a citizen, you are accepted, no questions asked.
This would eliminate all middle men proffit takers. Medical care would be reduced in cost to less than 1/4 of its cost today. Everyone would be covered. It would be paid for by payroll deduction like SS.
287 Ario Oooooohhhh!! I was born n raised in Michigan. Went to school in Indiana one year.
or one of obamas 57 muslim provinces…thats another one the media let slip on by. words do matter!
276 MamaPuma
Mama, if you hover your cursor over any smiley, the code to create it will be revealed:
Also, there’s a link at the bottom of the Daily Alerts section of the Action Center that takes you to the Wordpress Smiley instruction page.
http://pumapac.org/alerts.html
freddiebrown #259 said. “If you have Obots at home, keep them engaged so they forget to get out and vote. Every effort counts in order to keep Obama from the White House.”
I really hate to admit that this thought actually crossed my mind.
actually it continuously crosses my mind.
where in indiana?
Ario – thanks for your frank comments – I appreciate it.
It is difficult for me to look at an AA and not think Obama. I guess I am a racist
But why doesn’t the rest of the AA community see that ? Did you see the U tube of some AA’s heckling Obama at a Florida rally ? I was shocked to see that a few days ago. AAs ? They held up a large banner asking what Obama has done for the black community.
That was unusual.
Guy on fox tv saying BO should be 20 points up this year and he’s not. Unfortunately, they’re showing BO’s speech and he’s screeching to make his points. Ario, there is apparently a big protest in the audience.
uh oh boos are coming in from indy!!!!!!!
#288MOUNTAINSONG: ..Right…I mean a sleze is a sleze in every color…and what moves sleze is money and power. And, Obama is a sleze, and he is in fact moved and being moved by money and power and he is using his own people to help. ..like sheep to the slaughter.
And many of the so called white liberals would not know what to say to a regular black working person if they , if they happen to run into them on the street, and in many cases they would not run into them because they live apart from them. I have witnessed over and over this hypocrisy everywhere I have lived.
OH BO has got hacklers at his campaign rally I think….
Thanks YourNorthernNeighbor
Thanks Dances
Dances, is there anything that is NOT on the Action Center?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak
while wolf bluttzer was watching mccain and barak
he totally missed the great that one michelle’s total
dis of cindy
freddie
because he is black plain and simple…and its not 99.9 percent its more like 85 to 90 percent…but if it was powell…steele…or rice running blks would line up like ducks behing them too.
#293 murphy !!!!
Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ.
Are we ….?
Let get that thought viral among us… It is EASY enough to do and it is true… they are expecting record lines and waiting time. Just make sure we only tell the ones that are certain to vote for obama.
285 Ario You? Hysterical?? hmmmm Maybe you need a His-torectomy.
#274 GBPuma
********** THAT’S NOT TRUE!! *************
McCain not only shook his hand but they embraced each other after.
It’s right here ……..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K_MKwVBZRY
THIS clip below is why the Obots are saying such BS …. you can blame Wolfman on CNN for starting this lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak
#170 Pretjene…I agree…by brainwashing the weak of mind, cheating..and fraud!!
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/election_voter_fraud/2008/10/06/137898.html?s=al&promo_code=6C90-1
We have to stop the BO socialistic express!!
#278 sistermoon3
Each time Joe Biden opens his “and I mean this sincerely” pontificating cake hole, all I can see is the Ted Baxter of politics — a strutting, clueless arse who has absolutely no idea just how stupid he is.
In short, the perfect schill for NObama!!
neworleans
that is absolutely true…since i moved to dc i have been surrounded around these type of people…and they are the same ones that will cross the street if they see u coming…follow u around stores thinking u will steal something…and my worse situation that makes me enraged everytime…watch u sit in the rain or snow with 3 instruments and a tux on and watch every cabbie in town pass u up…and never offer to hail one for u.
302 Ario But he’s NOT black. He’s half white. And 3/8 arab and 1/8 Kenyan and his eyes are so dark brown cuz he’s totally full of sh*t.
301 MamaPuma
Thanks Dances
Dances, is there anything that is NOT on the Action Center?
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Yes, inactive Pumas.
#308 Ario Now THAT’S totally messed up!!!!
#301 sistermoon3
I’m so sick of the MSM. I watched the video of the handshake incident aqnd Mccain pats BO on the back and introduces him to Cindy who shakes his hand. Blitzer (blowheart) says Mc
cain doesn’t like BO.
mountain baby
obama is a black man who has a white mother…there are blk indians …blk latinos…it might be more correct to say he isnt african–american…but he is definetely black.
298 NewOrleansPuma Hey, ur not telling me anything I don’t already know. Anyone that’s not perfect in every way gets ostracized. I’ve felt the wrath all my life just because I was BORN the way I am.
313 Ario Yeah, ur right.
you’re so welcome MamaPuma.
Why is FOX giving so much time to Bo rallies. They dont give nearly as much air time to McCain or Palin. Sick of this.
#305 mick – thank you for quickly correcting this misinformation! kudos!
ok guys what can we do today…any ideas? i have went on all sites and voted…at an end on projects…i know i cant hop a flight out to LA and its pointless at this point to put fliers out cause dc is going to That One no matter what:( and i havent voted in Indy in almost 10 yrs:(
McCain/Palin 2008
Murphy/ 2012
Ok why is Foxnews only showing Biden and Obama’s rallys today??? I know for a fact Palin and McCain are in PA and OH, oh god I hope we are not losing fox too.
#274 GBPuma yea there was a website earlier that said that and he had to recant what he wrote because it was proven he did before the campaign and then after and the youtube that he is showing is like 5 minutes after the debate when he brought Cindy over to say Hello (after John had already shook his hand) I will try and find the other website for you.
#317 Ario – Probably more accurate to say he is a Kenyan-American, not AA.
225 gumbykat on 10.08.08 at 11:43 am I wonder if Obama’s symbol that he use’s(round circle with the sun) is suppose to be something to hypnotize people.
Well if you look at the Imperial flag of Japan (the Emperor ruled) and combine the rising sun state flag and the naval flag you get Obama’s design………..So does he think he is the Emperor of the US.
mountainsong on 10.08.08 at 12:55 pm
McCain/Palin 2008
Murphy/ 2012
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no no no
Murphy/Hillary 2012
Obama has played this race issue to perfection. He is not of a common heritage with American descendents of slaves. He is a new, more sophisticated mix of parentage. These people seem to have moved at will, around the world, being a part of every radical and subversive culture out there. He adopts the ‘downtroden AA’ persona when it serves his needs. He has harnessed the will and the efforts of millions of true black Americans to his cause, not because he is one of their true brothers, but because it serves his needs.
give ur brother who makes $! a month in kenya a job u fraud!!!! see what i mean guys????
No offense Murphy, but my pick is Hillary/Murphy 2012.
323 Ario Try what I do. So far I’ve got 5 ducks out of 17 calls.
I pick phone numbers at random from the phone book.
Call and I say, “Hi! My name is ’so n so’ . I work for ACORN and I’m with the Barack Obama campaign. I’m calling today to ask you to vote for John McCain. Of course, they say “What!?” We already know we have more than enough votes for Barack and we want the election to look fair so no one questions it.
So 5 have said they are just willing to help and will do it. And I tell them if they have any questions or doubt the truth of what I’m saying to call their local newspaper editor.
henrietta…exactly
when have we had the luxury to live in hawaii…go to harvard and sip tea with rich terrorists? when have we ever thrown granny under the bus…where i come from u better never say anything about granny those r fighting words.
ooo…mountain i like that!
Yikes, Mountainsong, that’s 30% idiots out of 17.
328 hillfan4mccain After the events of the last 6 months, I’d find it extremely hard to support or vote for Hillary again. I don’t trust her anymore.
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BRIEF REPORTS:
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Voter & Registration Fraud in Swing-States
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ACORN Nevada Office Raided RE: Voter Fraud
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/07/acorn-vegas-office-raided-voter-fraud-investigation/
Nevada state authorities seized records and computers Tuesday from the Las Vegas office of ACORN after fielding complaints of voter fraud.
Bob Walsh, spokesman for the Nevada secretary of state’s office, told FOXNews.com the raid was prompted by ongoing complaints about “erroneous” registration information being submitted by ACORN.
“Some of them used nonexistent names, some of them used false addresses and some of them were duplicates of previously filed applications,” Walsh said, describing the complaints, which largely came from the registrar in Clark County, Nev.
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Numerous Invalid Registrations Reported in Indiana
(ACORN again!)
(http://www.nwi.com/articles/2008/10/02/news/lake_county/doc5399904569d23a75862574d600010e55.txt)
In Lake County….. a federal investigation into hundreds of voter registrations bearing fictitious signatures or the names of dead and underage people.
“Fraudulent applications are the workings of ACORN groups operating from Milwaukee and Chicago who are getting out the vote for Obama…”
“…it appears some ACORN vote canvassers pulled names and addresses from telephone books and forged their signatures.”
NOTE: Henrietta reports that when ACORN got caught in IN, they scrammed… ‘cos illegal registration is a felony there!
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BO-folks STEALING THE ELECTION IN OHIO
BO folks are transporting people, including the homeless, to register &/or vote early…
…AND they’re promoting BO during the ride!!!
See FOX-news video:
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3130656&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/foxstream/
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The homeless are being bribed with “goodies” and given rides to vote for BO. Seems they’re even being transported into swing states from neighboring states.
(liberallyconservative.com/?p=2560)
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“People are showing up to register and vote. There is no evidence that these people have not registered or voted somewhere else. There is no control. Normally in an election, partisan election monitors are allowed into polling places so that they can police each other. But not in two counties, Franklin and Montgomery, in Ohio. Brunner told OH counties they are not required to allow election monitors.
(trapshooters.com/cfpages/thread.cfm?threadid=167057&Messages=14)
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Obama is taking advantage of Ohio’s new controversial early voting:
Obama’s campaign is using its financial and organizational muscle to boost turnout among his core supporters – blacks and the youth. His campaign long planned for this early voting period and organized car pools from college campuses to early voting sites across the state.
… people are being transported from places like homeless shelters, halfway houses and soup kitchens.
(cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/2008/10/stealing-ohio.html)
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There are also reports of people not being asked for proof of US citizenship when they register to vote in Fairfax county Virginia !
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Murphy
here are some interesting Cat pictures you might want to use on PUMA.
http://www.neatorama.com/2006/05/08/top-15-amazingly-ginormous-fat-cats/
#336 mountainsong
If not Hillary in 2012, then who?
#332 mountainsong
OMG – THAT IS HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Action
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[SEE MY POST #337 above]
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Report Election Illegalities & fraud to:
FBI Election & Ballot Crimes Bureau, Federal Election Commission, 999 E StreetN.W., WashingtonD.C. 20463
Telephone: 202-694-1100 Toll Free: 800-424-9530
TDD (for the hearing impaired): 202-219-3336
E-mail: info@fec.gov
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Email the McCain campaign your info:
http://www.johnmccain.com/honest/contact.htm
The Honest and Open Election Committee
honestelection@johnmccain.com
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Also, contact the Secretary of State’s office in OH, IN, NV… wherever voting fraud & illegalities are being carried out by Acorn and BO-folks… to register your concern and ask what they are doing about it.
See Secretaries of State Contact List at:
http://pumapac.org/alerts.html
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#309 mick on 10.08.08 at 12:44 pm #274 GBPuma
********** THAT’S NOT TRUE!! *************
McCain not only shook his hand but they embraced each other after.
It’s right here ……..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K_MKwVBZRY
THIS clip below is why the Obots are saying such BS …. you can blame Wolfman on CNN for starting this lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak
That’s what I mean…this is ridiculous….they promote 1 view or see a little youtube and it’s all about the youtube image and the handshake…..
instead of something important like CHARACTER and ISSUES and SOLUTUONS………
Thanks GoHillary!
ALERT! from email:
Real Democrats is organizing a bus tour through Ohio next weekend and they need your help!
WHAT are we doing?
Taking as many people as will join us to small HRC-lovin’ towns across Ohio to talk to people and hand-out Nobama flyers
WHEN:
Thursday, October 16th.
Participants will congregate in Columbus, OH—-
October 17th:
Bus will leave promptly at 8:30 am Friday, morning
October 17-19
We will stop all along the way at fall festivals, shopping centers and any place Ohioans congregate– and talk to people and pass out flyers.
We will travel throughout Ohio, Friday, Saturday and Sunday (we will return to Columbus by 5 pm)
We will stay overnight at motels in target destinations and share rooms to control costs.
We need money for gas for the motor coach, signs for the bus and flyers. If you want to contribute in any amount: http://www.RealDemocratsUSA.org
If you want to join the bus–contact Paulie at pabeles@RealDemocratsUSA.org
Come for the weekend or come for the day–JUST COME!!!
If we can raise enough money we hope to continue every weekend until the election!!!
335 BigCatLover I knowww. It says alot about his followers~~~and the people in the town where I live. lol
#329 Henerietta – Exactly.
landi
does it matter if we are not from those states?
Great jpg of a Jackass Speaking with a Teleprompter on this website (halfway down the page):
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100190/posts
“You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it’s still a jackass”
“Help keep This One out of the White House”
Not an endorsement of the site (or an encouragement to contribute). I just got a kick out of the image.
Note to self: Learn how to provide a link to an image by itself someday.
ARIO:
It seems that Obama had more than the luxury of sipping tea with terrorists. The other day someone posted knowledge of the “drug parties” at a certain hotel, I forgot the name, which some of Obama’s terrorist friends participated in. Obama was not mentioned as a participant, but it does seem a possibility given his association, that he MAY HAVE participated.
339 BigCatLover Murphy, I said. Maybe she and Sarah will get along by then.
GBPuma here it is http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/mccain-wouldnt.html
i sent out a email to Wolf Blitzer and to CNN telling them he is WRONG and showed the video that Mick provided. If you come across that kind of crap again set them straight.Puma style..lol.
murphy
i will donate what i can bright and early saturday morning!
I wonder if we could require both candidates to take a drug test just before the election!
no mountain….that would be racist….sigh
347 just.words
Note to self: Learn how to provide a link to an image by itself someday.
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Go to site.
Open image.
Copy the url
Paste URL..wherever
National
Likely voters Aug 30-
Sep 1 Sep
6-8 Sep
13-15 Sep
20-22 Sep
27-29 Oct
4-6 20-22 27-29 4-6
McCain 43% 46% 48% 46% 45% 45%
Obama 49% 47% 45% 48% 49% 49%
Undecided 8% 7% 7% 6% 6% 6%
Sample size: 1200 likely voters
Sample dates: October 4-6, 2008
Margin of error: ± 3 percentage points
This is from ARG they had the most correct polis all during the primary’s with six precent Undecided this race is still a dead heat I went to PA. news and found out that MSM is making a shitload of money and they are counting on making more when the Eagles play I think the Seahawks on NOV 2nd the media has lied put fale polls out has left us short changed again IMO
45% McCain and 49% Obama today 6% undecided equals dead heat Philadelphia is the fourth largest media area in the country and one of the most costly so the article said MONEY THE ROOT TO ALL EVIL
347 just.words
i.e.
http://pumapac.org/docs/Obalin.jpg
I could not get this poll to paste right
Henerietta on 10.08.08 at 12:39 pm The harsh reality is that nothing ever proposed by any candidate can solve our health care crisis.
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The most successful health care systems are all run as a governmental service. They are not farmed out to subcontractors, they are not pay per service, they simply ARE.
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Not true. Having grown up in both USA and England and having most of my family still in England. I can tell you that is just not true. Getting in to see a doctor is impossible. It takes 3-6 months to get into a doctor. It takes another 8-12mos if you need to have a procedure done. My family has to BUY insurance so they can get into a doctor.
This system worked for them 30-40 years ago, but with over population, its very broken. My family has paid sooooo much in taxes due to health care, that life is hard for them. My aunt had to wait nearly a year to have a procedure done, the doc screwed it up and left her unable to take of herself. It took another 3mos to have him fix his mess.
I only trusted Hillary with this, since she is so passionate about health care.
Thanks, DWP!
Image of Jackass Speaking with a Teleprompter:
http://freerepublic.com/images/freepathon/Jackass_Speaking.jpg
just.words
fast learner!
337 Landi In states where ther is a suspicion or investigation of voter fraud, why couldn’t we demand the election in those states be suspended until resolution?
I can’t type or spell today been up way to long
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BIGCATLOVER:
I didn’t need to cancel a subscription to Newsweek because I didn’t have one. It was the Time magazine that I canceled. My brother put me on to Newsweek a very long time ago.
Well, damn. I guess I’m a racist. But I still love ya, Brother. lol
My reply to a new email from the Jerk-
I think you are an asshole and I hope you do not make it to the Whitehouse.
I am a life long Hillary supporter.
You lost my vote with the caucus fraud and fake roll call vote in Denver.
Go away and take the DNC with you.
#356 DancesWithPumas
The Barack OPalin Bucks are PRICELESS!
http://americanresearchgroup.com/ polls
The Detroit Free Press is reporting tonight that a brand new poll shows Obama’s lead in Michigan has dropped to just 5%.
Just a week ago some polls showed Obama with a 13% lead over McCain in the Great Lake State (where 17 Electoral Votes are up for grabs).
The details on the new poll follow below. We here at the Our Country Deserves Better Committee are currently in the middle of a 48-hour web-a-thon to raise over $500,000 for our campaign to defeat Senator Obama in Michigan.
We’re more than 1/2 the way to our goal, having thus far raised over $248,000. Keep those contributions coming in, they are going to make the difference to denying Barack Obama those 17 Electoral Votes and instead handing them to the McCain/Palin ticket.
You can follow the progress of our web-a-thon to “Save Michigan” from Obama here: http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter….emichigan.html
And individuals can continue to make contributions to this fundraising drive here:
Murphy -
I will send 1,000 or more flyers to Ohio bus if Paulie will use them.
If you know them, or anyone else doing this wonderful bus thing, let them have my email.. fred08puma @ g mail.com
I think it would be such a hoot to do the bus tour.
We should organise one – what better way to watch Fall colors in the swing states… Any rebel rousers among us ???
Fox news announced gallup:
BO 52% McCain 41%
Murphy, I contacted RealDemocracy about the Ohio tour details. May be able to participate, but won’t know until I see the itinerary of where they are going.
Opinion: Supporter of Hillary turns to the other side
Marc Fisher, Washington Post columnist
Published Wednesday, October 08, 2008
Lynette Long — psychologist, feminist, Democrat, Dupont Circle dweller, Whole Foods shopper, George Bush hater, Hillary Clinton supporter (to the max) — is not just voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin, she even took the stage at their rally in Fairfax, Va., to trumpet her decision to the world.
And then she says this: “I just don’t understand how the Democrats couldn’t see that women wanted a woman. I’m not getting back in bed with someone who’s just abused me. Yeah, it’s payback time.”
http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/arti…ection=Opinion
i have a suspicion that any future universal health care will resemble public hospitals and clinics now..
they’ll tell you..”yeah,youre covered..heres two tylenol..bye”
Lillibet
Good job.
Posted is an email that I just received for a PBS poll regarding Sara Palin. Read the message and please vote yes. When I voted it was tied 49y-49n. I guess someone thinks that I am voting Obie—not.
PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is
qualified. Apparently the repulican party platform knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with YES votes.
The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by
mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters
in swing states.
Please do two things — takes 20 seconds.
1) Click on link and vote yourself.
Here’s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
2) Then send this to every single Obama-Biden voter
you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.
The last thing we need is PBS saying their viewers
think Sarah Palin is qualified.
This has become outrageous, now I know how these polls are getting so wharped, the internet is being used heavily.
Fox news announced gallup:
BO 52% McCain 41%
Unf*cking believable….this can’t be right know why!!!!
Gallup has always been wrong they are going to be talking about Hillary’s voters on fox now
Released: October 08, 2008
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll:
Obama 47%, McCain 45%
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(OH, VA, FL, PA, CO, MI, WI, MN, NV, NM….)
No matter where you are…
(For phoning to defeat BO: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank )
In the Action Center there are more ideas and resources (see “Landi’s strategies…”, the Media resources, Prowls, Action alerts, etc, etc):
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zogby and a few others say 2 points.. gallup says 9?
if im not mistaken wasnt zogby considered at one time to be in the tank for obama?
these polls are all over the place!
#379 greenfun ok that is better
kids1627 god i’m glad to hear that I was about ready to throw my remote through my TV.
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HELP DEFEAT BO
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GET YOUR ANTI-BO FLYERS
From freddiebrown
Email fred08puma@gmail.com
In Subject, put: FLYERS
> Include:
* your name and address
* your blog username
* how many flyers you need
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#381 osaka puma 9 points try 11 points !!!
Felon accused of voting violations
Man charged with illegal registrations
By LARRY SANDLER
lsandler@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Oct. 7, 2008
49 workers suspected
Mucklin was among 49 voter registration workers who were referred to the Milwaukee County district attorney’s office by the Milwaukee Election Commission on suspicion of election fraud. He is the second to be charged.
Virtually all the workers under scrutiny were employed by either the voters project or by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Those groups were among several politically liberal organizations that launched massive voter registration drives in Milwaukee in advance of the Nov. 4 election.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=803756
Tuesday, January 8 | Delegates at Stake: 22
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Obama Clinton Edwards Richardson Spread
Final Results — – 36.4 39.0 16.9 4.6 Clinton +2.6
RCP Average 01/05 – 01/07 — 38.3 30.0 18.3 5.7 Obama +8.3
American Res. Group 01/06 – 01/07 600 LV 40 31 20 4 Obama +9.0
Suffolk/WHDH 01/06 – 01/07 500 LV 39 34 15 4 Obama +5.0
Rasmussen 01/05 – 01/07 1774 LV 37 30 19 8 Obama +7.0
ReutersC-Span/Zogby 01/05 – 01/07 862 LV 42 29 17 5 Obama +13.0
CBS News 01/05 – 01/06 323 LV 35 28 19 5 Obama +7.0
Marist 01/05 – 01/06 636 LV 36 28 22 7 Obama +8.0
CNN/WMUR/UNH 01/05 – 01/06 599 LV 39 30 16 7 Obama +9.0
See All New Hampshire Democratic Primary Polling Data
this poll was on Real Clear another lying site sometimes you can see they had Obama up in NH the whole time gallup was so bad he didn’t poll until march again he had Obama up 17in NH lies lies lies
#369 greenfun – WHOO-HOO Thank you Michigan!
#380 LandiPUMA -
You’re one of my inspirations here. Thank you for your constant reminders – and for all your efforts.
maybe its true what hannity says..the dnc obama people have made a concerted campaign to disillusion and discourage people from voting by manipulation of the MSM and certain polling outfits to psyche people out.. if its true then they are some evil MF’s whom we should regard as poisonous snakes in the grass
Been away for awhile, but had to weigh in. Hi, everyone!
After McCain’s dismal and ineffectual performance last night, Nobama will win. We Hillary Clinton supporters, specifically PUMA, must vote McCain/Palin to stand a chance of keeping BO out of the Whitehouse. IMHO
I can’t stand the thought of voting Republican, but will not vote 3rd party. I’ve spoken to many people who will not vote another Republican in as POTUS and are completely unaware of the facts about Barack Obama.
It’s all about the Bush admin and McCain being a member of his party. John McCain hasn’t shown me a damn thing lately. Very disappointing.
Our country, as we know it, will be over if BO is elected. IMHO
God bless you all and our beloved USA!
#280 MamaPuma
I don’t understand this site!
Is everyone here a racist?
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You calling me a racist? I’m not only calling you a racist Mama, I’m adding that you are a racist sock-puppet.
Gallup is in the tank for obama has been since this started
#376 tatepuma
This NOW poll was posted the other day and I voted several times that day. I also voted 10 times today and the numbers never moved. These polls that allow you to vote more than once is phone in my opinion.
#285 Ario on 10.08.08 at 12:33 pm
omg! please tell me That One is not at my high school! Broad Ripple Center for Performing Arts!
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Go take him some jello Ario, you racist!
that’s ‘phony’
367 just.words…
#356 DancesWithPumas
The Barack OPalin Bucks are PRICELESS!
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Yeah, they’re fun!
http://pumapac.org/docs/Obalin.jpg
I thought he quit smoking. Said he did a long time ago. Now, on FOX, they said he was down to 7 or 8 cigs a day and now he bums 1 or 2 on the campaign trail. My question is, if he has the balls of a leader, why doesn’t he just quit? An awful lot of us have done it. He’s just a wuss and no way do I want him as CIC!!!
And now, it sounds like FOX supports him, too. I can’t believe they are still arguing about Hillary. Maybe they wil change their name to the FOX VIEW!
MURPHY – CAN WE DO A BUS TOUR TOO ?
CAN WE ?
We should organise a bus tour – or those of us in swing states can band together to have our own bus tour. See Fall colors and spread the word against Obama. We need Ario and other AA’s to join in so that people understand that we are not the racist that we are.
It will be so much more effective.. and fun and energising . We can raise funds quickly.
wow on fox black women said JM picked a white woman to get the white woman vote I am now racist
#295 Ario
or one of obamas 57 muslim provinces
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You are fired up today Ario, I love it!
Sarah is packing them in every place she goes
Woooooooohoooooooo GO DR LONG!!!
#374
“Lynette Long — psychologist, feminist, Democrat,
Dupont Circle dweller, Whole Foods shopper, George Bush hater, Hillary Clinton supporter (to the max) — is not just voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin, she even took the stage at their rally in Fairfax, Va., to trumpet her decision to the world.”
“We need Ario and other AA’s to join in so that people understand that we are not the racist that we are.”
Now why do I have a problem with that sentence?
#387 emme
#369 greenfun – WHOO-HOO Thank you Michigan!
I know I love it. My mother in law and friends are involved in this because they wanted to vote for HRC-and are not happy.
I am starting to lose hope for an October surprise. The only glimmer of hope was when Sean Hannity was trying to pin down Obama’s spokes person on whether Obama has ever met with Louis Farrakhan. It made me feel as if Hannity may have evidence and was trying to get a denial.
I really have NO idea why some people here are freaking out…….Obambi WILL NOT win. PERIOD.
You may not believe me now, but, on Nov 5 we will all be as happy as pig in sh** and then you can all Worship me….lol
NH would be a fun place to have a bus tour!
McCain’s mortgage renewal idea actually originated with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, said Charlie Black, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain.
http://www.mlive.com/elections/index.ssf/2008/10/john_mccains_idea_for_buying_b.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/us/politics/08mortgage.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
This whole election year has left a bad taste. The only good things I’ve seen are PUMA and others like Riverdaughter, NQ, JSND, etc.
I just want it to be OVER before I just say ‘Screw it” and bail.
Sorry to keep posting all the ACORN fraud, but it truly is mind boggling, and I am hoping to pumas will post this info everywhere.
ACORN’s voter registrations questioned
By KEN DIXON
Staff writer
Article Last Updated: 10/07/2008 11:37:59 PM EDT
HARTFORD — The State Elections Enforcement Commission has opened an investigation into allegations that a community activist organization submitted at least 10 false voter-registration cards in Bridgeport.
One of the phony registrations was for a 7-year-old girl in the Marina Village housing complex, whose age was listed as 27 on the voter card.
Another registration came from a man who later said he couldn’t have completed the voter card purported to be his because he was in jail on the date of the document.
Joseph J. Borges, the city’s Republican registrar of voters, filed the complaint with state officials after months of local complaints on the tactics that ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, was regularly filing applications that were ruled ineligible.
http://www.connpost.com/ci_10661361?source=most_viewed
#399 kids1627 yea that’s Tanya Ackers(i believe is her last name) she is a (sorry can’t say the B word anymore) but she isn’t a nice woman at all. She was always horrible about Hillary too. I heard her mouth yapping too.
403 mountainsong
lol…. “some of my best friends are…” syndrome.
I just received a horrible and nasty e-mail regarding Sarah Palin from a friend of mine. It is too long to post, but here is my response (feel free to comment):
This election isn’t about Palin. It is about McCain and Obama. This is the kind of stuff I worry about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
Sarah Palin is a Governor of Alaska. Barack Obama is a Senator, oh and let’s not forget, a community organizer. Give me a break. Obama is running for President. The guy has no credentials, the people that he has called associates and friends over the past years are all dangerous to this country or crooks. What does that say about his judgment? He has taken millions in campaign contributions from the banking industry and repeatedly blocked reform of that same industry. He has socialist ties everywhere. He works with the likes of Bill Ayers. He is heavily involved with ACORN, which is now being investigated for voter fraud in many states. Yep, dead people and animals voting for Obama. The lists goes on and on and on… Want to know more? Visit:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Those comments about Palin are so sexist they don’t even deserve a response. Is it a crime now to be attractive? Does that somehow make you less intelligent or qualified? People bitched that Hillary was old and ugly, now they bitch that Palin is attractive and sexy. WTF? And to criticize her for what time she puts her kids to bed. That is pretty pathetic. Gee, let’s look at Obama’s choice for VP. The drunk gaffe-master Biden. Real good choice!
I am not a republican, and I don’t agree with McCain on many things. However, country trumps party and my worry is for this country if Obama gets elected. I never want that man to have our nuclear codes.
mimi.. its possible of course mcain will win..were keeping our fingers crossed
don’t we all just want our kids hearing this everyday???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKahCRbWnkw&feature=email
ATTENTION:
DWP, Gypsy, Gandalf, TX Tigress, Trish
Please check your email ASAP.
# 406
I am hoping the same thing. BO can’t win. When people go into the voting booth they have no pressure and no one to answer to.
she had 10,000 in Greenville NC last Night and 10,000 in the panhandle of FL but you don’t hear much about it I have been going to all the local news and watching the live st.
Ario
what is your opinion on the fact that mrpovertypimp think all AA will be voting for him????
of course he is using poor AA as tissues, because he has not done a thing for them JUST USES THEM
they could vote as they see it, and not blindly as media wants us to see it,, maybe a surprise is on the way for mrpimpp, he sort of forget that they all have the intelligence to discern what is best for them
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Has anyone heard if McCain is going to let Sarah Palin and Todd go to Michigan like she wants to go. I emailed them about it last week. I wish he would. Fox just said he is down in points in PA but he is still campaigning there.
I hadn’t read this since it was updated ….wow .
http://obamacrimes.com/
ARIO:
You ask,”what ca we do?”
I sent a good many or you very early points posted to all the media outlets I have in my address book. Thank yo for expressing yourself so clearly.
We have 4 weekends left…
why start organizing tours now? Can’t we just get Pumas to caravan by and flyer and knock on doors, etc. for Nobama.
I was working on that for Nevada… 4 weekend meetups…but my contact has … let’s call it, is missing in action.
::::::::shrug:::::::
I don’t like what I’ve seen this election year do to people, including me.
I have 25 years clean and sober and the friends I have LEFT, are all asking what happened to my positive attitude.
Where I used to be able to help and inspire others, now I feel angry, betrayed and bitter. My own ’sponsor’ says I need to stop paying attention to it all. To get my peace of mind and serenity back.
I’m thinking I need to listen to, and hear, that. I really don’t want to vote for any of them.
Oh goody-Corsi is going to be on FOX
DISPATCH FROM NAIROBI
Sendoff to Corsi: ‘See you in hell’
Soldiers with automatic weapons detain author of ‘Obama Nation’
Posted: October 08, 2008
7:36 am Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
WND senior staff writer Jerry Corsi
NAIROBI, Kenya – WND senior staff reporter Jerome Corsi yesterday was refused permission to hold a scheduled news conference about his investigation into Barack Obama’s Kenyan links by Kenyan immigration officials and soldiers armed with automatic weapons who then took him to his departure flight and made it clear he was not welcome to return.
“Don’t ever come back. See you in hell,” Corsi reported an unidentified official told him as the author of the No. 1 best-selling book “The Obama Nation” was delivered to a flight departing from Nairobi for London.
Corsi is now in London, where he will file a WND story on his discoveries in Kenya and recount yesterday’s ordeal in radio and TV interviews, including the Fox News Channel’s Hannity and Colmes.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77291
#406 mimi1020
Love your confidence.
PS No need to wait for November 5th — I adore you now!
the dnc obama people are like the wizard of oz ..in his little control booth thundering loud and making lightning scaring the hell out of people..but when the curtain is open hes nothing but a wimpy nerdy little bastard twisting knobs and shouting through amplifiers..
check out the Pa rally on fox I always wanted Hillary to win and I hope one day that Bill does come out and tells us what happened he said he would have a lot to say on NOV5th. About this race.
We all know what HC told that traitor Bill Richardson regarding noBama: “Bill, he cannot win.”
I pray every day that HC was right. Pleasse let her be right!
#426 just.words…
thank you, thank you very much……lol
#428 kids1627 – He’s gonna tell us he voted for McCain-Palin
Had enough of the empty suit yet?
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take it upstairs!
#424 mountainsong
I can relate – I had 10 yrs clean – relapsed but this month I am celebrating 9 yrs again! woohoo (hi five).
I too find it hard to remain powerless without feeling frustrated. I find that if I just do the BEST I can do with what I believe, I have to leave the results up to my HP.
Sometimes I do not feel comfortable with that, but what is the alternative, driving myself crazy over something I have NO control over.
I will fight during this election alongside of all the PUMAS and the Americans willing to put Country first.
I will fight until Polls close on Nov. 4. That is all I can do.
I pray and I share with who I can….that’s it – nothing else I can do.
Stay focused and you are NOT alone.
UN-effing believable!!!
Huffpo is trying to spin the ACORN raid into a Republican
hit job. Gotta get some comments over there. The Liberal media has become the most corrupt group of liars I have ever seen.
The involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in a Tuesday morning raid on the Las Vegas offices of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (“ACORN”), the community organization involved in registering more than 80,000 new Nevada voters, has raised suspicions that political pressure motivated the action.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/acorn-office-raid-linked-_b_132705.html
#369 greenfun I can’t get the link you provided to work
slyt2
Sorry-try this
http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/savemichigan.html
The Detroit Free Press is reporting tonight that a brand new poll shows Obama’s lead in Michigan has dropped to just 5%.
Just a week ago some polls showed Obama with a 13% lead over McCain in the Great Lake State (where 17 Electoral Votes are up for grabs).
The details on the new poll follow below. We here at the Our Country Deserves Better Committee are currently in the middle of a 48-hour web-a-thon to raise over $500,000 for our campaign to defeat Senator Obama in Michigan.
We’re more than 1/2 the way to our goal, having thus far raised over $248,000. Keep those contributions coming in, they are going to make the difference to denying Barack Obama those 17 Electoral Votes and instead handing them to the McCain/Palin ticket.
You can follow the progress of our web-a-thon to “Save Michigan” from Obama here:
And individuals can continue to make contributions to this fundraising drive here:
#312Ario: This is a truth denied over and over. I bet you hairstyle really makes them nervous! I bet even if you were playing Bob Marley these hypocrites would run away!!! LOL, Mr. Ario…Do you like Vivaldi? My two favorites are Vivaldi and Mozart and of course Marley and everything that ever came from Dr. John, Professor Longhair, Irma Thomas, who used to sing at our Saturday high school dances sometimes…in the sixties with Mac Rabennac , now Dr. John…well…you get the picture
Interesting information on the hidden costs of Obama’s health plan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4Vk2eWNzg
emme, Ario;
Arab-American.
He is actually 7/16 Arab, 1/16 African black. Grew up Indonesian and white; puts on the AA role like a coat because it pays.
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