Surprises everywhere.
15 years too late, OJ Simpson is found guilty.
Oh, and what was that argument Obama Nation was beating us over the head with in August and September? Something about back alleys and the right-wing assault on feminism? Looks like Obama himself is A-OKAY with this this prominent anti-abortion activist. So, Obama’s circle of friends includes not only people who think the USA is evil, but also guys who say abortion is “unspeakably EVIL.” If I cared about or had any faith in Obama’s position on ANYTHING, my head would be spinning right now.
And a drug pusher with an M.D. apparently FORGOT to disclose $500 thousand smackeroos that the Pharma Kingpins had paid him to go out and push their drugs. OOPS!
This is an open thread.
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Can’t believe they finally found him guilty of something. So maybe there is hope something will eventually stick to BO also.
Knock, knock – anyone home?
Hmmmm, today is my wedding anniv. What a beautiful place to spend it – Aruba.
Hiya Middle age female!
LOL – love the cartoon! Agreed – about time they got OJ!! Woot!
Sly, loved the Twisted Sister video posted downstairs!
Here’s one of the best videos I’ve seen that I use when I’m feeling down….totally non-political!
O-zone’s Dragostea din tei video redone using lego.
One of the most clever videos I’ve seen in a long time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmUl4gcLE4U
5 Caracal Carrie on 10.04.08 at 8:57 am Hiya Middle age female!
****************
I was beginning to feel like I was in the Twilight Zone. LOL
Re-post from downstairs:
The Enigma of Obama:
“How can one categorize a man who combines:
a revivalist’s grandiose and extravagant oratory,
a charismatic talent for swaying crowds for no logical reason that they can explain,
bewilderingly contradictory changes in positions on issues,
a squidlike ability to befog and blur statements into ambiguous or ominous vagaries,
an inflated image (and self-image) covering a naïve and meager mental ability,
a penchant for gaffes and misstatements combined with a dismissal of any corrections as irrelevant or malignant,
a humorless rigidity, elitist aloofness, and perpetual air of condescension, and
a thin-skinned aggrievement at being misinterpreted or of having his privacy violated.
It’s like trying to cram a three-ring circus into a pup tent. Unlike a chameleon, he maintains a constant personal image; it is only his positions that change. He shares the ignorance and self confidence of megaegos, but they doggedly stick to one set of dogmas while he changes them with the ease of a shapeshifter. Moreover, he maintains conflicting positions with more grace than a contortionist and more rigidity than an india-rubber man. ”
There’s more:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/the_enigma_of_obama.html
McCain Plans Fiercer strategy agains Obama
’bout damned time!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303738.html
The O’Reilly Barney Frank smack down, to bring a smile to your faces!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuOEdttjZQ
“againsT”….geeshh!! Need. more. coffee.
Repost from downstairs–must be my narcissism-
Thanks to windybon #8: Great article, thank you! I, and some others, have been saying this since the beginning about Obama. Being able to attract admiration and manipulate an opinion about oneself is key to this personality construct,but when you scratch the surface or when you challenge/disagree, defensive anger is usually the response. The reason is there is no substance beyond the facade. I think Obama may be a bit healthier than a severe NPD since he has, apparently, a longstanding relationship with his wife and family. Often people with NPD may not be able to tolerate a long term relationship. However, I have often wondered why I don’t see his life long friends–that is another key element. I don’t know who his friends are beyond political admirers. I always remember Hillary having so many friends from childhood–that is healthy! But BO seems to shed associations like a snake shedding his skin whenever they seem to jeopardize his public persona.
#9 NikkisMom, related to your post, I found this in the comments of the American Thinker article I posted above. Now’s your chance to tell the McCain campaign what you think it should do.
“PLEASE PASS THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION ON TO EVERYONE YOU CAN!
I just received a most promising message from Gary Bauer, who was with the Reagan campaign, in which he said to email him my comments, which he is going to take DIRECTLY to John McCain and his campaign when he meets with them shortly! This is by far the BEST opportunity we will have to get our comments and encouragement to McCain to get him to really FIGHT to WIN this election! Please send your comments to:
info@cwfpac.com and put “Campaign Comments” in the Subject Line.
Please keep comments as short as possible.
Windybon….Sounds like OJ and BO have a lot in common.
Sheet I hope we do not have to be sentenced to any more years of the OBUMA POVERTY PIMP!
I am going to write a letter to Hillary and Bill Cinton each this weekend. I am going to tell them how I really feel about them being for a corrupt politician for President. And how I feel after watching the primaries and how shocked I was finding out the corruption in my own party and in OB. Also, I am going to tell them how it hurt me to see them campaigning for OB, knowing how corrupt he is. And them being decent and honest politicians, I just don’t see how they could be for corruption.
I am just sooo tired of seeing them out there campaigning for OB. I think she is going to ruin her own chances of running in 2012 if she don’t quit.
#13 windybon, THANKS!
I just sent Gary this email. Hope the comments are short enough.
Hi Gary,
Regarding the comments in the American Thinker article, I am respectfully submitting my thoughts.
If McCain wants to truly WIN this election, then he needs to expose Obama for what he really is; the most left-leaning liberal, socialist this country has ever seen with some of the most questionable associations a presidential candidate has ever had. McCain needs to drop the “honorable” crap and come out fighting. The Dems will stop at nothing to put an end to his candidacy. He has the ammunition, now he must use it (Fannie & Freddie too!)
If he doesn’t win this, then McCain needs to change his “Country First” slogan, because he isn’t truly interested in saving his country from the worst presidential candidate EVER.
Thanks for your time!
Puma
#10 Grizzly -
Not only did O’Reilly go after Frank, but Bill Sammon has an article posted at FoxNews.com:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
#179 mick on 10.04.08 at 8:49 am
Unbelievable the lack of donations, being a fellow catholic I now don’t fell so bad about my weekly envelopes. So much for his 10%.
Obama owns the “rescue” bill – even former supporters agree- and it rescues him from all his electoral promises
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/obama-rescues-himself-from-all-campaign-promises/
Biden 2006 Income – $248,459 Charity – $380
Palin 2006 Income – $128,005 Charity – $4880
Biden 2007 Income – $319,853 Charity – $995
Palin 2007 Income – $166,495 Charity – $3325
Hmmm.
I realize that many people can’t or don’t give monetary donations. Instead they give “charity” by volunteering and doing community service but I find these numbers very interesting.
Here’s Biden’s track record of giving. Sad.
Year Income Charity
1998 $215,432 $195
1999 $210,797 $120
2000 $219,953 $360
2001 $220,712 $360
2002 $227,811 $260
2003 $231,375 $260
2004 $234,271 $380 (2004 Tsunami)
2005 $321,379 $380 (2005 Katrina)
Even my daughter, who was 10 yrs old, saved her allowance and sent $150 to Tsumami victims, (I matched her with $150). I’m a single mom with one daughter, raising her without any help from her father. My daughter goes to a private Catholic school; in 2004 my income was 1/3 of Biden’s and I managed to give almost $1000 to charity that year.
Don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t mean that I’m so wonderful, … my point is that the Obama/Biden ticket claim to care so much for the poor etc. but it seems to me that they only want to spend someone else’s money to help them. Ours.
I don’t have the exact numbers yet but here’s a percentage breakdown between McCain and Obama.
John McCain tax returns show that he gave 27.3% – 28.6% of his income to charity in 2006-2007. During the same period, the Obamas’ tax returns show that they gave 5.8% – 6.1% of their income to charity.
When news was actually reported…
The New York Times
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: September 30, 1999
From http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
Good news about OJ!! I remember the day of his acquittal 13 yrs. ago yesterday so well. I was so shocked and angry that that murderer walked free.
21 mick do you have a link ? .. i want to send this to Albuquerque newspaper,, McCain will be there Monday
CELEBRITICIANS
They only show face when they need us…
They shake hands and pocketbooks to bleed us…
Working hard for the middle class?—No, not quite.
They herd your vote.
They don’t earn your vote.–Yeah, you herd me right.
We’re poked , we’re prodded.
They’re photo-opped and coddled…
…CELEBRITICIANS…
“Yes we can!” “Change is coming.”
Syrupy taglines I can’t stomach!…
…CELEBRITICIANS…
Cautious with records.
Vague with words.
All in hopes of duping the herds…
…CELEBRITICIANS…
Can’t speak without a dais.
Arms can be lifted only yea high.
Do we vote on substance or ‘cause we like the guy?
…CELEBRITICIANS…
Vanity, Greed, just two of the seven.
We may see more ‘fore month of eleven.
Jordana EL 10/4/08
#22fmster…Thanks for the link
gojoyknocks, you’re welcome.
#2 Middle age female
Let’s hope it doesn’t take 15 years!
Depressing start to the day. Hubby turned on NBC morning news…Chuck Todd talking about how BO has it all wrapped up, has SOOOO much more money, McCain gasping for air, it’s all over but the crying blah,blah,blah….same thing they did to Hillary.
PLEEEEEEASE McCain, pull out the big artillery NOW! We know it’s there. It’s gettin’ stinky down here in the trenches.
Bluegal (15) I would agree with you.
It was necessary for Senator Clinton to give some support
to protect her name for the future, within the Democratic party. Unfortunately she has gone over the top and from the Puma blogs, her stalwart supporters are beginning to be annoyed and there is a danger that soon they will not support her as hitherto.
President Clinton did not have to take part at all——-
he has been corrupted too
I think the future of Hillary moves from favourable to “toss up” She is harming herself by the day and it will
have effects on the 18million supporters in the future.
Good fortune, Shane, Ireland
It’s a telling story when the vp debate draws more viewership than the presidential debate…somehow i dont think it was biden that drew these numbers. Perhaps all the bias stations should write Palin a note of thanks for upping their ratings, and then go back to their rantings.
I too believe the Clintons are dragging themselves down with this campaigning. They will appear to have drunk the Kool-aide too. But, alas, that’s their decision, not ours.
Who knows, but something tells me it’s all about the money.
Virginia Teachers Union Sparks Outrage With ‘Obama Blue Day’
NEW YORK: Virginia Republicans are in uproar over state teachers union’s effort to get educators to show their support for Barack Obama during school hours.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/virginia-teachers-union-sparks-outrage-obama-blue-day/
The Virginia Education Association sponsored “Obama Blue Day” on Tuesday. In an e-mail sent last week, it urged teachers to participate by dressing in blue.
“There are people out there not yet registered. You teach some of them,” the Sept. 25 e-mail reads. “Others, including our members, remain on the fence! Its time for us to come together, voice our unity, because we make a difference!”
“Let’s make Obama Blue Day a day of Action!” the e-mail continues. “Barack the vote!”
SHANE et al:
That is just not quite the support we need from you. You and others are just too quick to judge the Clintons. President Clinton has shown many time that his heart is not in it when he does any campaigning for Obama. And just when have you actually witnessed campaigning by President Clinton for Obama? ? I hear very little about the actual campaigning by either of the Clintons. If you are picking anything up from the MSM take it with a lot of grains of salt, because they have there own agenda.
We LOVE Hillary and will not abandon her. Yes, Hillary has here a few “fair weather friends,” but I sincerely wish they would keep their negative thoughts to themselves. We need all the positive energy we can muster in order to complete our prowls and any other action so that we can to defeat Obama.
It is interesting to me that it is okay for the teachers to do this however didn’t a student get suspended a month or so ago for wearing t-shirt that supported a candidate?
Hillary and Bill have been slogging through an Obamian quagmire that has no ‘other side’. HRC has been “rendered” by the DNC so that even if she decides to run in ’12, there will be little support available, for she will have been rendered, by that time, to be *too old *too old school *too out of touch, and tainted by the fact that she allowed herself to become a shill for Him. The Obacracy has worked hard to make it virtually impossible for her to recover by having forced her to don the cloak of The Changling’s surrogacy in order to prop Him up. Folks, we have been robbed, not once but twice by this man.
I used to like “The Confluence”. But, riverdaughter’s gang hasn’t been on message for a better Democratic Party of late. They just react to news of the day over there now. It’s Hillary this or Barney Frank that and “Ooh, Sarahcuda”, what a debate! They like to laugh and mock more than anything else, albeit cleverly. Too many cocktail hours, if you ask me.
My opinion of them has changed from a positive one to indifference.
I guess what makes me come on here to say that is due mainly to my aggrevation by riverdaughter’s comment that Sarah Palin is not in Hillary Clinton’s league… that Hillary is ready to be president (Friday: Cool Shoes).
Oh, really? Anyone who supports Barrack Obama is not of sound judgment and ready to be president. You are wrong, riverdaughter.
My opinion of “The Confluence” has changed from a positive one to indifference. I doub’t they will do much more for the cause of democracy.
But PUMA lives on for a better day. It’s still up to the female vote in PUMA to make a difference for democracy in this election. But, if socialism is the change everyone wants then Obama is the man for that. Vote for him and more government will be yours to love. And the DNC and mainstream media will all be laughing at their detractors knowing they were right all along.
P.S. SHANE:
THEY ARE NOT STALWART SUPPORTERS or they wouldn’t be abandoning Hillary now. I believe that they are giving in to a defeatist attitude due to the fact that we are so down in the polls.
I think we need to reignite the anger that Hillary supporters had during the primary.
Especially in Ohio before people early vote.
Any ideas on how to do that?
#13 windybon
#16 NikkisMom
Thank you for the suggestion/inspiration.
My letter:
It is my understanding that Mr. Bauer will soon be talking to Senator McCain and Governor Palin.
Please convey our appreciation that they continue to fight on the side of hard-working, play-by-the-rules Americans and encourage them to “take the gloves off.”
This election is not going to be won by being polite. There is such a thing as righteous anger and all the people I talk with are anxious to see a fiery display of it from our candidates.
Failure to do so at this point will ensure the election of an unqualified, Soros-sponsored schill and the destruction of our Country as we know and love it.
With prayers for success in November,
Proud PUMA
good afternoon pumas
if nothing news happen within ten days more or less
we will have mrphoney in the wh
i get the impression that republicans do not want to win , and government & its agencies(FBI…etc..) could not care less what this guy & his team do, they have a freeway to unlawfulness
With my hands are clapping, Shane, to your #29 post.
Heck, I liked my Gary Bauer letter so much (#38), I am going to tweak it and send it directly to the McCain Campaign!
Good morning, Pumas – daily Rasmussen information and individual newspaper via State information as well shows: I know no one believes in the biased polls – and especially not Rasmussen and Gallup -however – if you go to many of the newspapers in these states they are coming up with similar figures – we can discard the info but not put our heads in the sand and there are things we can do about it as below:
Nationally BO 6 point lead 51-45%
Maine – 16% women for BO – he trails 8% men 51-46
Nevada – 9% women for BO trails 2% men 51-47
Washington – BO leads both men and women – 54-40% for women – 51-45% for men – 53-43%
N. Hamp – BO 53-43% – only two weeks ago McCain up 2% – 21% women going for BO – trails 2% among men
Yesterday Murphy suggested with the trend in many of the swing states that the women are now looking towards BO – that we blog on the following blog spot everything that we know as millions of women read it – so lets all blog and change those % around today —-
Its better than saying that we don’t believe in polls – maybe it will have a great influence on someone — and its a positive thing to do to help the cause
http://www.blogher.com/bloghers-blogrolls
I haven’t supported Hillary since she threw her voters under the bus by releasing her delegates.
I do not view myself as having abondoned Hillary. I am stallwart in my support of her candidacy in a future election. But I believe that the DNC has already minced her electability with its voter manipulations of this election. The effect that current, smarmy election practices will have on new generations of voters cannot be underestimated. As someone posted earlier, youth is impressionable..like wet concrete…what is imprinted becomes permanent. That is the most devastating of blows coming out of this campaign; that this political cognitive dissonance has a very long half-life.
Oy vey.
***** SATURDAY PROWL IDEA*****
“The Boston Globe Lies Repeatedly About The Rape Kits”
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTM2ZWYwOTI5ZWUzZGVlMDEwNjVlOTM3ZDk5ZGEwZDk=
I’m so sick of this FALSE story making the rounds on the net and the MSM, in spite the real facts that it never happened.
The Boston Globe article begins with the headline, “Wasilla Made Rape Victims Pay.” Except that there’s no evidence that any rape victim was ever charged by the town. In fact, the town has financial records indicating they did pay for rape kits during Palin’s time as mayor.
The Globe’s phone is 617-929-2000;
Email: letter@globe.com
Corrections are urged to be sent to comments@globe.com and the listed phone number is 617-929-8230.
Planned Parenthood also just put out this ad based on the lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq6Y-wgivIE
At the end of this ad PP urges us to get the facts.
So here they are …
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/274088.php
And here -
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODA1YWM5ZjM2ZTU5ODliZTY2NTczMGUwZWYwNTVlMTQ=
Does anybody have any Planned Parenthood head honcho emails and phone numbers?
I would also suggest posting these articles around the internet this weekend and emailing a copy of the article to friends/family that are Obama supporters.
Now let’s get busy!
Shane, I agree with you. I was not a die hard democrat or Hillary supporter. I am a die hard AMERICAN. So it doesn’t bother me to say that Hillary lost credibility when she said she was in it to win it, then took the backroom deal to supposedly save her future (a delusion at best IMHO) . Bill on the other had is caught between supporting his wife and standing up for his real convictions. I have more respect for him after his interviews like the one he gave on The View (more accurately know as The Spew)
At this point in time, I personally feel that Hillary is a non-issue . We don’t have time or energy to waste on that distraction considering the late hour and the high stakes of this election. We must fight for the salvation of a FREE America and either a cleansing of the DNC or the formation of a VIABLE third party that really stands for the true mainstream Americans.
Very Important: Is there a Puma who lives on the border of Ohio. There are rumors that people are coming into the state to vote. If someone can go there with press, or a valid witness, and vote this would be huge.
maxgrader:
Why would you clap to that negative post from a foreigner about our President Clinton and Hillary? I’m not so sure that I like you anymore.
I have read SHANE’S posts ever since hillaryclinton.com days and was always uplifted by them. But his posts this morning are out of bounds. We do NOT NEED HIM TO CRITICIZE OUR FORMER PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY. I am NOT SORRY to say that I strongly object to anyone in or outside of our country judging the Clintins for their weak support of Obama. We have no idea of the pressure they are under. We should be able to trust in their political instincts.
If I was not clear, outside of Ohio, but close enough so that it is not a hardship to get there.
It’s the Religion of “O.” And I thought Oprah had that copyright.
Obama Youth gone militant. Whether it’s pre-teens singing angelic praises in the form of a hymn to Dear Leader Obama or teens marching around in pseudo-military garb chanting about how Barack Obama is their Alpha and Omega and reciting policy positions, it’s clear that a wave of idolatry like we’ve not seen since the late 1930s surrounds Barack Obama among youth.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/jungsturm-barack-obama/
see video on the site. Yikes!!
——
Looks like Nation of Islam to me.
Good mourning Pumas!
Good post.
wow about OJ.
I never thought he got off because he was black.
I thought it was because he was a famous foot ball player and he was rich.
Well and that it is Hollywood.
I have never even thought of OJ as black.
He was in movies and he was funny.
Its amazing how his story trued out.
wow.
Regarding Hillary, if she does not support BHO she could lose her senate seat. Bill Clinton was a democratic president. I coulkd lose my position at PP if I speak my mind. I sit and don’t participate in the McCain bashing and still get hit with e-mails like”why won’t you say Palin is an idiot”.
I need some help here anybody oh and good morning / afternoon
Just received this email- guess they thought I would vote no!! Thought you all would be interested
Subject: for immediate action
RE:Palin
PBS is doing a poll which asks if Palin is qualified to be VP.
There is an organized “yes” campaign–and as a result, the “yes”is at the moment ahead.
Take literally 20 seconds, go to:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
and vote!
Great prowl idea Mick.
****#52 hillary2008*****
“I could lose my position at PP if I speak my mind.”
Do you work for Planned Parenthood?? Please read my #45 post!!!
#54 FLGirl i did it and it’s a tie 49% to 49%
i was glad to see OJ to finally have to pay for his crimes to bad like stated up above 13 years(to the date) to late.
On a brighter note, I am delighted by the notion that many of the folks whose votes have been strongarmed or *bought* (cigs, booze, hot meals, blah blah blah) are unlikely to show up for an actual vote, and that their registrations only serve the [flawed] pre-election polls. And as been mentioned here on earlier posts, many passionate youth voters will decide to stay at home on election night because they have other things to do. (here, I am recalling my own youthful stupidity. . .)
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
True leaders lead they do not follow.
Hillary IMO failed the leadership test.
After reading this article I can see how women are perceived in this country.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/janice_turner/article4877810.ece
Palin is the face of modern women of this county, but at the same time it also exposed elitism is paramount as always in America. If you’re not an Ivy league graduate, you’re not fit to run for VP; they’d call you ignorant, uneducated. Sarah Palin is MORE qualified to run for President than NObama.
Sarah Palin is indeed authentic, while NObama is as fake as that styrofoam ancient Greek Temple at his convention.
It was the Ivy league graduates who cost us taxpayers $700 billion yesterday, they’re so out of touch with reality.
Sorry Lilibet you feel that way.
I’m now as protective of Sarah as you are of Hillary. But I would never say I don’t like you.
As far as I’m concerned you are still my American buddy.
Worker Bee
Here in Ohio they are registering and voting on the same day.
the obamanuts they sound like a sect
like the one in wacko,or those murmons one, just plain sect, blind adoration for the leader, they think he is almost a god…, they are in for bad news
#62 Patty on 10.04.08 at 11:17 am . . .”Here in Ohio they are registering and voting on the same day.”
And that this action be allowed is the political cognitive dissonance fo which I speak. Sound like ..When the Nazis came for the communists,…? You bet. Anybody alarmed by this? Hmmm. I guess the decision-makers aren’t too bothered by it.
59 Patty can I use that ?
This is what the bailout cost:
Bailout type Cost to taxpayers (Source: Reuters)
Financial bailout package approved this week up to or more than $700 billion
Bear Stearns financing $29 billion
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac nationalization $200 billion
AIG loan and nationalization $85 billion
Federal Housing Administration housing rescue bill $300 billion
Mortgage community grants $4 billion
JPMorgan Chase repayments $87 billion
Loans to banks via Fed’s Term Auction Facility $200 billion+
Loans from Depression-era Exchange Stabilization Fund $50 billion
Purchases of mortgage securities by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac $144 billion
POSSIBLE TOTAL $1.8 trillion+
NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS PER U.S. CENSUS 105,480,101
POSSIBLE COST PER HOUSEHOLD $17,064+
This is enough to make anyone sick
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10057618-38.html?tag=nl.e433
Dang. I’ve lost my sense of humor and I am NOT enjoying a political fight the way I used to.
Took the poll FLGirl and its still a tie 49-49
What do you need SLYt2
Thanks Patty.
Now let’s hope everyone here can jump on board with it. For the last few days I’ve noticed a lot of negative post, several post with negative comments about Republicans not doing enough to help!! Well, this Republican and many more like me are doing just as much as PUMA to help McCain win. Trust me, the McCain camp is full of people that want this win waaaay more then we do!!
I know this much, this fight isn’t anywhere near over and this Cajun Republican white chic is “in this to win this”!! And I’m really tired of coming on this blog and seeing a bunch of whinny ass Democrats already about to throw in the damn towel!!
So buck the hell up and get busy beating Oblahblah’s butt!!
______________________________________
#55 Patty on 10.04.08 at 11:11 am
Great prowl idea Mick.
Oh I got some letter and I have know idea who he was , was it someone close to clintons or what.
The Gelber Blog
Representative Stan Mayfield 1955 – 2008
I always smiled when I saw Stan Mayfield. Even in moments when he appeared serious, his face betrayed a sense of humor, a mischievous streak or warmth that he unsuccessfully struggled to hide. Stan was a legislator who took his trust seriously, and who thrived in a process that rewards collegiality and authenticity. He was direct and never ducked a hard question or a harder answer; and even when we disagreed, he was so honest that it was impossible to not find him endearing. He fought his illness as all who knew him would have expected: gracefully and valiantly. Stan Mayfield was a class act, and he will be missed….
Having a terribly bad lightning storm right now – have to shut down and get away from the computer and windows be back later.
#68 Gogandalf post #70 is for you. This is what i need help with
#45 mick
Did my E-mail.
prowlland
The poem is First they came.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
And the rest is my opinion.
It’s my pleasure that you use anything I post.
i would not count on young people staying home and abstaining from voting, the obama militicia woul get them out
the whole hijack of the democratic party & the media had been planned way back heavens knows by soros ayers,breazinki & their gangs, they will be the master of our nation and the lords of our fate
I’m out have a great day Puma’s
Stan Mayfield was in the Florida House of Rep – that is sad Now must go – lightning everywhere
MAXGRADER:
Thank you for your note. Notice that I said “I’m not so sure that I like you anymore.”
That was because I was upset by people abandoning Hillary because she doesn’t renounce Obama. My thought is that we have no idea what pressure the Clintons are under.
BTW, I’m all for Sarah, and defend her whenever I have a chance. And, of course, I still like you!
#73 shampoo
#56 Mick
Thank you. I had not read your post. We have all gotten that fundraiser e-mail, and I wpouldn’t give them anything. I have been really pressured to not support McCain/Palin. It is cultish and weird. I oriuginally was supporting Nadar and said that. I was taken aside and told I should not mention that if I wanted to keep my position. I even spoke to a lawyer.
sorry about the typos.
Regarding “Easing Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending”
After 400 Years of Slavery and virtually non-existent equal opportunities and many other generational marginalized people, these programs were not a bad idea.
Ill-planning, zero regulation on predatory lending practices and GREED caused this debacle.
1) Brokers and lenders ignored the overvaluing real estate properties to qualify low-income/no credit history buyers.
(this influx of escalated values also escalated values in the entire RE market – driving home sales, and new home building and all related industries
2) Mortgage Brokers and Lenders stuffed their pockets with exhorbitant mortgage and closing fees (financed in the loans that would be bundled and sold off)
3) Adjustible rate mortgages were pushed to the max made qualifying easier because they could virtually set the initial payment amount
(not a good mortgage for people with limited earning capacity because they were tied to inflation)
4) Loans were bundled, flipped and even sold off to foreign lenders – after all, the US RE market was now at an all-time high, home sales up, values up, etc., etc., etc.
(and… all those adjustible rates were bound to go up and the real estate increase in “value”, right? Never mind that the RE was already over valued)
5) “Everything is wonderful! Borrow, borrow borrow! Americans are earning more, buying more, borrowing at records rates because everything in America is Great! Invest in the financial markets!”
So, the people these “relaxed qualifying loan programs” were supposed to help? They were really just the pawns in the big game of “survival of the fittest” political power players, and purchased political representation, who were never going to be allowed to actually collapse.
(Average American citizens have always been the guarantors of whatever the big power players do)
The “Pharoah Mentality”. What Pharoah says is good for the people or else… protest and be “making bricks without straw.”
Pharoah or “the wilderness” ? The question is: What is the “wilderness” and what do the people have to “leave behind” to get there.
Thomas Merton said: ‘The wilderness journey wasn’t about getting the people “out of Egypt” – it was about getting “Eqypt” out of them’
Fox is having something coming up about people now saying Sarah is a communist Oh lord what next..Turn on fox if you want to see it. I assume it will be on next if not soon.
YOU’VE GOT MAIL — I just received this from two different friends — it’s worth passing on to PUMAs!
The following is the winning entry in an annual contest at Texas A&M
University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary
term: This year’s term was Political Correctness.
The winner wrote:
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end”
R.J.Wiedemann.LtCol.USMC Ret.
MAXGRADER watch out and don’t make lilibet mad or you will go in a corner .. I was stuck there for like 44 minutes the other day… Tough one that lilibet is.
Muslim Americans for Obama running illegal get out the vote drives at swingstate mosques this week — including Noor Center
http://ohioagainstterror.blogspot.com/
National Muslim Voter Registration Day 2008 on 9/29-10/1
http://www.asianamericansforobama.com/national-muslim-voter-registration-day-2008-on-929-101
hillary2008
#81
vote is secret & sacred
if you have that kind of pressure, tell them what they want to hear
and on the booth you do what you want
Hannity is doing a show tomorrow night about BO and his ties to Acorn and Ayers. We should go to BO friendly sites and tell people to tune in.
Be nice about it. Do not infer that it might be a negative show.
#84 Missy
Gotta LOVE Aggies!
#80 hillary2008,
I’m not sure what you mean about a fundraiser email. My #45 post doesn’t have anything to do with an email from PP.
I totally respect your vote for Nadar. But my request for a prowl was to attack the lies about the “rape kit” issue. We both know that Nadar is not going to win this election, so doing this prowl doesn’t take away from your vote for him.
Anyway, I had this question at the end of my post: Does anybody have any Planned Parenthood head honcho emails and phone numbers? I saw that you work for PP so I thought that maybe you had this information.
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#56 Mick
Thank you. I had not read your post. We have all gotten that fundraiser e-mail, and I wpouldn’t give them anything.
32 lilibet on 10.04.08 at 10:42 am
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Thanks lilibet. That needed to be said, and I agree. The Clintons are still heads and tails above any of these other candidates with regards to understanding what needs to be done to pull us out of the messes we are in right now. Both are brilliant, brilliant politicians, and at the same time – true public servants. They get it. While the rest of the crowd is just about gaining power for power’s sake, the Clinton’s know that the power gained MUST be used to benefit the people. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Clinton’s have been working very, very hard behind the scenes to try to stear the Democrats into doing what’s right by the people, because they truly believe in the principles that the Party historically stands for. But they cannot fight that fight by standing on the outside looking in. They believe that there must be a democratic President, no matter what. We can disagree with that point of view, and I do in this case because of who the Dem nominee is, but it does not make them wrong. We, after all, are not in their position to work the system from the inside. And if there is any other powerful political couple that know how to work the political system the way the Clintons do, I do not know of them.
Don’t ever stop believing that Hillary and Bill are and always will be fighting and working hard for the people. It’s who they are, it’s in their blood.
No, our objective here is defeating BHO at any and all costs, but we cannot hold the Clinton’s great belief in the Party principles against them in our process. We just have to believe that they know exactly what they are doing and that THEY believe it is what is the best for us. We just happen to disagree that BO must be put in the White House for own various personal reasons.
Personally, I will always support Senator Clinton and President Clinton in anything they decide to do because underneath all the necessary political maneuvering, I believe I know where their hearts are at. And in that respect BO will never ‘get it’ – it’s just NOT who he is.
Anyway, my 7 cents… I now need another cup of java!
One thing I can say about Democrats in Congress and Senate, they’re NOT shy in giving away our tax money; they’re not shy about their own brand of corruption and JUSTIFY their corruption to the American people. To add insult to injury, democrats in Congress and Senate make it your OBLIGATION to clean up the mess they’ve created, and they take CREDIT for your job of cleaning it up!
When it comes to Hillary, she put her party in the forefront; as far as she’s concern what matters to her is for NObama to win, she don’t give a damn if all of us will lose our country, she’s already in the seat of power; she’s SECURE – while the rest of us peons are fidgeting like a child and worrying about future of our country in the wrong hands.
Does Hillary have the same worry as we do? Hell shit no! Bill and Hillary Clinton is worth $100 million, they’re filthy rich! Sarah Palin can relate more to us than Hillary, how ordinary American lives. Just look at Income Tax Return (2006 & 2007) of Todd & Sarah Palin; the couple did not even reach 200K. Sarah Palin should be jumping with joy with NObama tax cut, she’s qualified for the tax cut according to NObama’s plan, but she isn’t. She knew NObama will increase her taxes one way or the other.
#84 Missy:
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end”
R.J.Wiedemann, LtCol, USMC Ret.
NOW THAT’S PRICELESS!
#88 stoney42
Great idea, sign me up. Will get the word out about the awesome program coming up about “0″!
My hubby found this on Craigs list McCains stats is on top BO’s is on bottom
http://toledo.craigslist.org/rnr/865901035.html
Read it.
#90 Mick
I was voting Nadar, now supporting and calling for McCain
The fundraise was for a donation in Sarah Palin’s name. It went viral, raised alot of money.
I have names and numbers.
Will get them and post
But even in youth there is ‘election fatigue’, and the sense that ‘I can skip this vote because so many gazillion others will be out there voting for Him’ does mean a portion of the hoard will be elsewhere than in the voting booth. This is not to imply that there won’t be a tsunami of young voters turning up at the polls. In fact, I am considering voting an absentee ballot for that very reason [living in the Univ proximal community] for I know my polling place will have long lines.
86 scarlet on 10.04.08 at 11:36 am
Did you send it to media outlets and the McCain campaign’s voter fraud alerts?
This OBAMA thing is just getting more weird by the moment. It really started way back in IOWA when the fraud was already remarkable. When reading blogs about caucus fraud in Texas on the night of the election, someone mentioned that people from out of state had been seen voting in IOWA. Others on the same blog stated that they had witnessed caucus fraud in Nevada. I don’t know what we really can do about this as long as “the powers that be” choose to ignore it.
Can anyone imagine, what the foreign countries that are certainly aware of what is taking place here in the states, what they will be thinking of our ineptness in taking care of our own problems will be.
With all of this, Obama dreams that HE IS THE ONE FOR WHOM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING”.
#71 Gogandalf
Stay safe.
42 Gogandalf
Thank you for reposting that action/prowl item !
It’s also posted in the Daily Alerts section of the Action Center, along for several others of the past day or so, for Pumas to read and act on.
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maxgrader:
“I guess what makes me come on here to say that is due mainly to my aggrevation by riverdaughter’s comment that Sarah Palin is not in Hillary Clinton’s league… that Hillary is ready to be president (Friday: Cool Shoes).
Oh, really? Anyone who supports Barrack Obama is not of sound judgment and ready to be president. You are wrong, riverdaughter.”
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Those paragraphs are a bit confusing.
I’ll assume you’ve posted your complaint on Riverdaughter’s blog so that she has the opportunity to explain/counter/reply to you, and because it’s just the right thing to do. Am I correct?
Not blindly defending here, but The Confluence, has never touted itself as an activist site, although I’m willing to bet that a few of the regulars are politically active. And, it seems of late… since Denver? it has been more activist. I know some regulars participate in our prowls, and also do their own actions, apart from The Confluence, etc. And, I also know it can be frustrating, especially when some of the commenters make suggestions for actions that are so dated and akin to reinventing the wheel, when other Puma sites have long ago invented that wheel, have the necessary resources, and have been acting on these “new” ideas for weeks and weeks. But, again, that site doesn’t tout itself as an activist site. I thoroughly enjoy Riverdaughter’s blogs, and their are one or two others whose blogs I stop to read, other than that, as in all things, take the best and leave the rest.
I also think your complaint serves as a signal… if politically savvy bloggers are in the dark in some areas, try to imagine where non-interested, non-internet involved citzens are. It’s a clue as to how much more work we have to do.
I’m a Kucinich Democrat and I agree that Sarah Palin is not in the same league with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, none of the candidates are, nor is anyone else who is part of the political landscape.
Hope you register your complaint with the one you are complaining about, otherwise, it’s the equivalent of pure gossip, backstabbing, and cross-blog contamination.
Kudos #87 Storytellers!! I love your comment!
I changed it a little bit to make it my own.
I suggest that we attach this comment to all emails or post that we send out. Why? Because I really believe that there are many Democrats that aren’t going to vote for Obama but that’s what they tell their family and friends. They does this out of fear, they don’t want to be ridiculed, (especially women).
By attaching that comment, we remind them that it we understand their dilemma.
_____________________________
A vote is secret & sacred.
We understand the pressure that you are under.
Tell them what they want to hear.
In the booth you do what you know is right for your country not party.
#96 hillary2008,
Oh, gotcha!
Thanks.
I’m doing computation in my head how Sarah & Todd Palin make do with their income. I used to live in Alaska, EVERYTHING in Alaska is expensive more expensive than Hawaii. The only thing expensive in Hawaii is real estate, the rest are CHEAP. I’m not surprise now Sarah & Todd has to hunt and fish to put food in the table, raising 4 kids (eldest is in Iraq) with that income is not easy in Alaska. I bet Sarah knows what is the price of one dozen eggs in Alaska. When I was there, a dozen of eggs was $2.49 medium, 12 pack of pepsi was $10.00. Sarah can easily relate to every household in America except those people in Hollywood and the rich of this country.
#54 FLGirl
I voted in the poll multiple times so once again the poll results are not accurate (they have a disclaimer that the poll is not scientific). Go vote Yes Sarah Palin is qualified to be VP. It is currently tied 49% to 49%. http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
Saw a local news program last night on PBS ( I live in Columbus Ohio) and the reporters said the early voting in Ohio is going very slow and that many areas of Ohio still don’t have their ballots in order, so haven’t even started voting yet. If they can be believed, of the 800 early voters in Franklin County this week, only 50 had registered the same day. I will continue to watch and report the local news reports on this early registration/voting process.
Got to do some Sat. chores, bbl.
I want to re-post my idea. Buh, bye.
********** SATURDAY PROWL IDEA *********
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“The Boston Globe Lies Repeatedly About The Rape Kits”
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTM2ZWYwOTI5ZWUzZGVlMDEwNjVlOTM3ZDk5ZGEwZDk=
I’m so sick of this FALSE story making the rounds on the net and the MSM, in spite the real facts that it never happened.
The Boston Globe article begins with the headline, “Wasilla Made Rape Victims Pay.” Except that there’s no evidence that any rape victim was ever charged by the town. In fact, the town has financial records indicating they did pay for rape kits during Palin’s time as mayor.
The Globe’s phone is 617-929-2000;
Email: letter@globe.com
Corrections are urged to be sent to comments@globe.com and the listed phone number is 617-929-8230.
Planned Parenthood also just put out this ad based on the lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq6Y-wgivIE
At the end of this ad PP urges us to get the facts.
So here they are …
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/274088.php
And here -
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODA1YWM5ZjM2ZTU5ODliZTY2NTczMGUwZWYwNTVlMTQ=
Does anybody have any Planned Parenthood head honcho emails and phone numbers?
I would also suggest posting these articles around the internet this weekend and emailing a copy of the article to friends/family that are Obama supporters.
Now let’s get busy!
I propose to MURPHY a prowl a day until the election – there are certainly enough good ideas here that can constitute one – I know we have the unoffical ones – but that does not gather enough strength to make a statement – one of us here and there doing something – is exactly that to the receiver – a person here and there.
FLGirl – I think the above poster is right – PBS poll regarding Palin has been stuck forever now – even though it says that it only accepts the first vote – something is not right with the poll and its been around for quite awhile now -
Gogandalf thank you for answering my question. I guess he had throat cancer it said, don’t know how I got it but so sad so young.. Hopefully your storm has passed .
#98 NObamaDem
Whatever I post on here, I post on topix.com wherever it is appropriate. Topix has a lot of undecideds so that is where I am spending my time. Plus, there are hundreds of threads from all over the country and it is time consuming.
Furthermore, the media really doesn’t seem to be concerned about ACORN, so I don’t know if they would be interested in this or do anything about it. I would rather go to people who are looking for information and I find that on topix. But, I will try to get it to the McCain campaign fraud alert. Thanks.
So called PBS poll is actually a NOW poll and is garbage.
Mick
I have local e-mails .
Cecile Richards is President of PP
cecile.richards@pp.org
New McCain ad (well at least to me) don’t know who all saw it pretty good.
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/04/mccain-palin-ad-hits-obama-on-taxes/
More NY covers – Sarah felt sorry for Joe and Bailout Blues
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/sarah-sorry-for-joe-and-other-ny-headlines-bailout-blues/
BIGCATLOVER:
Thank you for keeping a watch on the Ohio voting for us. Ohio is such an important state for us and yet it has been known for corruption in its voting process. Many people were angry with Kerry for giving up so soon in Ohio and not contesting the results.
BTW, do 18lb cats qualify as “big cats?”
69 mick
“And I’m really tired of coming on this blog and seeing a bunch of whinny ass Democrats already about to throw in the damn towel!! ”
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I’d think you’d want to think twice before insulting people on this blog… especially since some have worked so hard to defeat obama , and hand your boy a win by default. If you’re lucky and they still decide to vote pull the mccain lever, they may be the deciding factor in an obama loss.
Besides, you’re breaking one of Puma Pac’s few rules.
#113 slyt2
That is a grate ad.
Lilibet @10.42a.m and 11.06.a.m
In reply to your comments, I want to see Hillary as President in the future and I wish only the best for her and
President Clinton. I am more worried for her future than
criticizing her. Both President Clinton and Senator Clinton
are held in the highest regard throughout Ireland and this
is my personal position also.
You are correct to describe me as a foreigner, but
as a very young boy my home in Ireland was bombed and destroyed by the German Luftwaffe and I later
met with the American soldiers based here prior to
the invasion of France.
I have always held America and Americans with the
greatest respect and owe the sacrifice of so many
Americans to allow me to grow up in freedom.
My comments were not meant to be personal in any way
and my hopes for Hillary are undiminished.
Good fortune, Shane Ireland
Oh crap when is the next presidental debate? Is it tuesday nite? What time ?
Shampoovta:
GRATE: I grate my cheese to make tiny, tiny pieces of
cheese
GREAT: I love that ad- it is really GREAT
What a GREAT day it is.
Please, do not attack me anyone as I am only trying to be helpful.
THE LIES BIDEN TOLD
October 4, 2008
For all the focus on Sarah Palin’s graceful performance in Thursday’s vice presidential showdown, a more significant spectacle was taking place behind the other rostrum.
That’s where Joe Biden, speaking with the pompus self-importance befitting his 36 years in the Senate, told one baffling fib after another.
Some, of course, were just Biden being Biden. He smeared Dick Cheney as “the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in American history.”
To which we must take specific offense: After all, the founder of this newspaper, Alexander Hamilton, was killed in a duel by then-Vice President Aaron Burr. (Certainly Burr was a better shot than Cheney.)
But that’s a matter of opinion.
Not so, some other Biden gems:
* It’s “simply not true” that Barack Obama said he’d meet Iran’s president without preconditions, Biden insisted.
Yet when Obama was asked if he would in a debate during the primaries, he said yes – a position Biden back then termed “naive.”
* Biden said he’s “always supported” clean-coal technology – after stating emphatically only last month, “We’re not supporting clean coal.”
* Biden asserted – repeatedly – that the US spends more money on three weeks’ combat in Iraq than it’s spent in Afghanistan since the war began.
That claim’s only remotely intelligible if he limits Afghan expenditures merely to US rebuilding efforts – and even then, he’s off by a factor of three, according to State Department numbers.
* Also on Afghanistan, Biden insisted – repeatedly – that “our commanding general in Afghanistan said the surge principle in Iraq will not work” there.
That may not be an out-and-out lie, but it took supposed foreign-policy neophyte Sarah Palin to bring any context or nuance to the statement.
What Gen. David McKiernan had said was that tribal realities in Afghanistan are very different than in Iraq – requiring a different form of cooperation.
But he flatly said more troops, and more local engagement, are needed.
Sounds like a surge to us.
* Then there was what might have been the biggest head-scratcher of the night. Said Biden of the Bush administration’s supposed Middle East follies:
“When . . . along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”
Huh?
Assuming that Biden was referring to when, in 2005, American and French pressure helped the Lebanese people kick Syrian troops out of Lebanon, who ever thought NATO occupation of that deeply divided country was a good idea?
As if America’s NATO allies would have gone in the first place.
But hey, as long as it makes Biden sound presidential.
At some point, Americans have to wonder: Is this a fellow who should be a heartbeat away from the White House?
lilibet NO ONE IS GOING TO ATTACK YOU. I promise you that.
Oh Lordy – I should probably just keep my mouth shut – and would go for a walk but its lightning outside – and I sure do not want to get stuck in the dungeon downstairs again like yesterday – but I just have to say something that bothers me greatly –
this is not directed at anyone specific but please do not take offense -
I have watched the likes of Terry Do – Your Northern Neighbor – Delphine from France – Shane – MadLogic, Trish who have supported us in this Country (all the above being from outside our great USofA) and have worked hard with dedication on our prowls, our projects, donated money, you name it – and we gladly accept it – but I have seen from a few who no longer blog here regularly and have had their feelings hurt – get attacked for giving their own personal feelings and were told to basically mind your own countries business – we NEED every country to give their opinions – sometimes we can’t see the forest for the trees ourselves – this is my biggest fear about BO – who likes him – well maybe those that get free rock band concerts – please be kind to those that support our effort – Now to the swamp with me – and I am going to put myself into my own time out for 44 minutes
#123 Gogandalf poor thing I was in the corner for 44 minutes the other day it’s not fun, i feel for you.
ALERT: DWP, please email me asap.
#123 Gogandalf
Thank you Slyt2 – all I can say and am copying others here – Mama is pretty, Texas Tigress is pretty and Dances is the prettiest of them all – will use anything that I can to get out of time out early.
worker bee
you have mail
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10030744&ch=4226716&src=news
Great video…Hillary supporter talking about Palin debate and Obama
You will like!
HUH???
Push to register felons to vote could aid Obama
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_el_pr/felons_voting
Obama has co-sponsored a Senate measure that would allow all ex-felons to vote, but his campaign isn’t directly targeting ex-felons for registration.…McCain has said states should decide whether felons have voting rights. But he personally believes ex-felons should forfeit certain rights when they commit a serious crime and that the right to vote should be restored only on a case-by-case basis — much like Virginia’s process….
Roughly 13 percent of black men nationwide have lost the right to vote, according to the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University’s School of Law, which advocates the reform of felon voting rights. Black ministers, civic leaders and activists believe they are a rich source of votes for Obama.
“Of course I would go with Barack,” said Deshawn Tatem, a dreadlocked drug dealer-turned-activist from Chesapeake, Va. But he’s never cast a ballot. “Right at 18, I caught the felony.”
Asian – thank you – but I have been very bad usually do not give my own personal deep opinions like that.
MAMA you have mail.
#115 lilibet
LOL My name refers to the genus ‘big cats’ (lions, tigers, leopards and jaguars), but my love for cats refers to ALL cats domestic and wild and even though pumas are not considered true big cats (they can’t really growl like the others), they have always been my favorite wild cat.
#120 lilibet
Oops, redface
Thank you lord for teaching me humility,.. lol
Asian – should have continued with smoking out the bees, huh?
Going to finish my time out blogging on site that Murphy recommended that millions read.
Be wonderful to each other as a great person once said.
Catch you on the flip side.
Perhaps a useful article if you haven’t read it yet:
Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:26 am (PDT)
Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign
Monday, September 29, 2008 9:23 PM
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised
has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t
disclose.
And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations
the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted
as legitimate.
Obama has raised nearly twice that of John McCain’s campaign,
according to new campaign finance report.
But because of Obama’s high expenses during the hotly contested
Democratic primary season and an early decision to forgo public
campaign money and the spending limits it imposes, all that cash has
not translated into a financial advantage — at least, not yet.
The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee began
September with $95 million in cash, according to reports filed with
the Federal Election Commission (FEC).
The McCain camp and the Republican National Committee had $94
million, because of an influx of $84 million in public money.
But Obama easily could outpace McCain by $50 million to $100 million
or more in new donations before Election Day, thanks to a legion of
small contributors whose names and addresses have been kept secret.
Unlike the McCain campaign, which has made its complete donor
database available online, the Obama campaign has not identified
donors for nearly half the amount he has raised, according to the
Center for Responsive Politics (CRP).
Federal law does not require the campaigns to identify donors who
give less than $200 during the election cycle. However, it does
require that campaigns calculate running totals for each donor and
report them once they go beyond the $200 mark.
Surprisingly, the great majority of Obama donors never break the $200
threshold.
“Contributions that come under $200 aggregated per person are not
listed,” said Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the FEC. “They don’t
appear anywhere, so there’s no way of knowing who they are.”
The FEC breakdown of the Obama campaign has identified a staggering
$222.7 million as coming from contributions of $200 or less. Only
$39.6 million of that amount comes from donors the Obama campaign has
identified.
It is the largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded
into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold
campaign finance reforms of 2002.
Biersack would not comment on whether the FEC was investigating the
huge amount of cash that has come into Obama’s coffers with no public
reporting.
But Massie Ritsch, a spokesman for CRP, a campaign-finance watchdog
group, dismissed the scale of the unreported money.
“We feel comfortable that it isn’t the $20 donations that are
corrupting a campaign,” he told Newsmax.
But those small donations have added up to more than $200 million,
all of it from unknown and unreported donors.
Ritsch acknowledges that there is skepticism about all the unreported
money, especially in the Obama campaign coffers.
“We and seven other watchdog groups asked both campaigns for more
information on small donors,” he said. “The Obama campaign never
responded,” whereas the McCain campaign “makes all its donor
information, including the small donors, available online.”
The rise of the Internet as a campaign funding tool raises new
questions about the adequacy of FEC requirements on disclosure. In
pre-Internet fundraising, almost all political donations, even small
ones, were made by bank check, leaving a paper trail and limiting the
amount of fraud.
But credit cards used to make donations on the Internet have allowed
for far more abuse.
“While FEC practice is to do a post-election review of all
presidential campaigns, given their sluggish metabolism, results can
take three or four years,” said Ken Boehm, the chairman of the
conservative National Legal and Policy Center.
Already, the FEC has noted unusual patterns in Obama campaign
donations among donors who have been disclosed because they have gone
beyond the $200 minimum.
FEC and Mr. Doodad Pro
When FEC auditors have questions about contributions, they send
letters to the campaign’s finance committee requesting additional
information, such as the complete address or employment status of the
donor.
Many of the FEC letters that Newsmax reviewed instructed the Obama
campaign to “redesignate” contributions in excess of the finance
limits.
Under campaign finance laws, an individual can donate $2,300 to a
candidate for federal office in both the primary and general
election, for a total of $4,600. If a donor has topped the limit in
the primary, the campaign can “redesignate” the contribution to the
general election on its books.
In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to
verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified
as “Will, Good” from Austin, Texas.
Mr. Good Will listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession
as “You.”
A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the
latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate
entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25.
In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375.
Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show
that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a
credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a
net cumulative balance of $8,950 — still well over the $4,600 limit.
There can be no doubt that the Obama campaign noticed these
contributions, since Obama’s Sept. 20 report specified that Good
Will’s cumulative contributions since the beginning of the campaign
were $9,375.
In an e-mailed response to a query from Newsmax, Obama campaign
spokesman Ben LaBolt pledged that the campaign would return the
donations. But given the slowness with which the campaign has
responded to earlier FEC queries, there’s no guarantee that the money
will be returned before the Nov. 4 election.
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,”
gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For
most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer
as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” just as Good Will had done.
But in some of them, he didn’t even go this far, apparently picking
letters at random to fill in the blanks on the credit card donation
form. In these cases, he said he was employed by “VCX” and that his
profession was “VCVC.”
Following FEC requests, the Obama campaign began refunding money to
Doodad Pro in February 2008. In all, about $8,425 was charged back to
a credit card. But that still left a net total of $11,165 as of Sept.
20, way over the individual limit of $4,600.
Here again, LaBolt pledged that the contributions would be returned
but gave no date.
In February, after just 93 donations, Doodad Pro had already gone
over the $2,300 limit for the primary. He was over the $4,600 limit
for the general election one month later.
In response to FEC complaints, the Obama campaign began refunding
money to Doodad Pro even before he reached these limits. But his
credit card was the gift that kept on giving. His most recent un-
refunded contributions were on July 7, when he made 14 separate
donations, apparently by credit card, of $25 each.
Just as with Mr. Good Will, there can be no doubt that the Obama
campaign noticed the contributions, since its Sept. 20 report
specified that Doodad’s cumulative contributions since the beginning
of the campaign were $10,965.
Foreign Donations
And then there are the overseas donations — at least, the ones that
we know about.
The FEC has compiled a separate database of potentially questionable
overseas donations that contains more than 11,500 contributions
totaling $33.8 million. More than 520 listed their “state” as “IR,”
often an abbreviation for Iran. Another 63 listed it as “UK,” the
United Kingdom.
More than 1,400 of the overseas entries clearly were U.S. diplomats
or military personnel, who gave an APO address overseas. Their total
contributions came to just $201,680.
But others came from places as far afield as Abu Dhabi, Addis Ababa,
Beijing, Fallujah, Florence, Italy, and a wide selection of towns and
cities in France.
Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select
the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United
Nations, including such friendly places as North Korea and the
Islamic Republic of Iran.
Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the
Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently.
Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad
to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be
accepted.
With such lax vetting of foreign contributions, the Obama campaign
may have indirectly contributed to questionable fundraising by
foreigners.
In July and August, the head of the Nigeria’s stock market held a
series of pro-Obama fundraisers in Lagos, Nigeria’s largest city. The
events attracted local Nigerian business owners.
At one event, a table for eight at one fundraising dinner went for
$16,800. Nigerian press reports claimed sponsors raked in an
estimated $900,000.
The sponsors said the fundraisers were held to help Nigerians attend
the Democratic convention in Denver. But the Nigerian press expressed
skepticism of that claim, and the Nigerian public anti-fraud
commission is now investigating the matter.
Concerns about foreign fundraising have been raised by other
anecdotal accounts of illegal activities.
In June, Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a public speech praising
Obama, claiming foreign nationals were donating to his campaign.
“All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded
this man,” the Libyan leader said. “They welcomed him and prayed for
him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in
legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American
presidency…”
Though Gadhafi asserted that fundraising from Arab and African
nations were “legitimate,” the fact is that U.S. federal law bans any
foreigner from donating to a U.S. election campaign.
The rise of the Internet and use of credit cards have made it easier
for foreign nationals to donate to American campaigns, especially if
they claim their donation is less than $200.
Campaign spokesman LaBolt cited several measures that the campaign
has adopted to “root out fraud,” including a requirement that anyone
attending an Obama fundraising event overseas present a valid U.S.
passport, and a new requirement that overseas contributors must
provide a passport number when donating online.
One new measure that might not appear obvious at first could be
frustrating to foreigners wanting to buy campaign paraphernalia such
as T-shirts or bumper stickers through the online store.
In response to an investigation conducted by blogger Pamela Geller,
who runs the blog Atlas Shrugs, the Obama campaign has locked down
the store.
Geller first revealed on July 31 that donors from the Gaza strip had
contributed $33,000 to the Obama campaign through bulk purchases of T-
shirts they had shipped to Gaza.
The online campaign store allows buyers to complete their purchases
by making an additional donation to the Obama campaign.
A pair of Palestinian brothers named Hosam and Monir Edwan
contributed more than $31,300 to the Obama campaign in October and
November 2007, FEC records show.
Their largesse attracted the attention of the FEC almost immediately.
In an April 15, 2008, report that examined the Obama campaign’s year-
end figures for 2007, the FEC asked that some of these contributions
be reassigned.
The Obama camp complied sluggishly, prompting a more detailed
admonishment form the FEC on July 30.
The Edwan brothers listed their address as “GA,” as in Georgia,
although they entered “Gaza” or “Rafah Refugee camp” as their city of
residence on most of the online contribution forms.
According to the Obama campaign, they wrongly identified themselves
as U.S. citizens, via a voluntary check-off box at the time the
donations were made.
Many of the Edwan brothers’ contributions have been purged from the
FEC database, but they still can be found in archived versions
available for CRP and other watchdog groups.
The latest Obama campaign filing shows that $891.11 still has not
been refunded to the Edwan brothers, despite repeated FEC warnings
and campaign claims that all the money was refunded in December.
A Newsmax review of the Obama campaign finance filings found that the
FEC had asked for the redesignation or refund of 53,828 donations,
totaling just under $30 million.
But none involves the donors who never appear in the Obama campaign
reports, which the CRP estimates at nearly half the $426.8 million
the Obama campaign has raised to date.
Many of the small donors participated in online “matching” programs,
which allows them to hook up with other Obama supporters and
eventually share e-mail addresses and blogs.
The Obama Web site described the matching contribution program as
similar to a public radio fundraising drive.
“Our goal is to bring 50,000 new donors into our movement by Friday
at midnight,” campaign manager David Plouffe e-mailed supporters on
Sept. 15. “And if you make your first online donation today, your
gift will go twice as far. A previous donor has promised to match
every dollar you donate.”
FEC spokesman Biersack said he was unfamiliar with the matching
donation drive. But he said that if donations from another donor were
going to be reassigned to a new donor, as the campaign
suggested, “the two people must agree” to do so.
This type of matching drive probably would be legal as long as the
matching donor had not exceeded the $2,300 per-election limit, he
said.
Obama campaign spokesman LaBolt said, “We have more than 2.5 million
donors overall, hundreds of thousands of which have participated in
this program.”
Until now, the names of those donors and where they live have
remained anonymous — and the federal watchdog agency in charge of
ensuring that the presidential campaigns play by the same rules has
no tools to find out.
© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/
135718.html
speaking of PROWLS, barring some unforeseen event in the news (which is likely, since there is surprising news almost every day it seems) we will be focussing our PROWLS next week on
VOTER FRAUD
ACORN
VOTER FRAUD AND ACORN TIES TO OBAMA
in MICHIGAN and OHIO.
Next week’s PROWLS will all be focused on Michigan and Ohio.
********* HI EVERYONE…******
Glad to be out of the hospital and rehab… with new knees to boot….LOL
Hi bmw60! great to see you back!
Missed 3 1/2 weeks of you guys… and n ow I have to say BRB… lunchtime and then a nap… legs are hurting again…boo hoo…
HUGS to YOU ALL>>>> Thank you Murphy!
Gogandalf Um I don’t think anyone says TexasTigress is pretty… it’s always MamaPuma is pretty..lol
I’m reposting this from downstairs… everyone needs to see this video NOW!
Has everyone seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
The elections methods used makes sense when you think of how much Obama tries to inspire hatred through the use of the race card… and his Obama militant training camps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onXd8iH3OVQ
Happy new knees bmw60.
BMW60!
Hey! its good to see you again! How are you? I hope everything is well with you and your family.;)
gogandalf,
Nope no smoking of bees not unless they’re back again.
Hey bmw60 glad to see you , I said welcome back yesterday but I think you had already left. Glad to see everything went ok.
Please watch… we have to stop this man and make this video viral:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
The elections methods used makes sense when you think of how much Obama tries to inspire hatred through the use of the race card… and his Obama militant training camps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onXd8iH3OVQ
Hey Asian….. well, but it was lonely in the hospital and rehab… I am doing better each day and soon I will be dancing…… YEAH!!!!
Here’s an interesting article for all to read:
Critique of O, Continued
Posted by: “solntsepyati” solntsepyati@yahoo.com solntsepyati
Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:26 pm (PDT)
Although somewhat tardy, having been promised for the month of
September, the critique of O continues at Acarology:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/acarology/message/797
I like this comment from yesterday, so before I head out to follow in Gogandalf’s pawprints, I’m taking the liberty to repost it. But, before I do, there are several prowls posted on the Daily Alerts section of the Action Center: http://pumapac.org/alerts.html
Take your pick.
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107 kat in your hat on 10.04.08 at 1:19 am Ok, as you know, there are only a FEW WEEKS left.
People need to disband from this site.
But then return to it to check in.
We need to get the hell out of here and contaminate the entire internet–proliferate information, and only do actions from here on out.
This bonding stuff is nice.
TICK EFFING TOCK.
I got so much stuff done today.
I wish I had the lead of this place for just one day a week. We need to GO.
24 years no woman VP candidate. Only 17% women in elected office. We are behind some third world countries.
I didn’t word-fight for over a year to get here and BOND only a few weeks to election day.
Re-GEAR. Re-GROUP. It’s only about the next few weeks.
Think of Palin when she was five years old, and when we were five years old. Did we think dem/ rep? Course not. “It’s a girl” Remember…remember…the gender.
I am sooo frustrated. So much damn energy wasted.”
SLY: Thank you for not holding a grudge.
And GOGANDALF, I release you from your corner, since I am the one who put SLY there in the first place.
In addition, I have always, and still do admire SHANE for his support for us and his great posts. I am really sorry, SHANE if I misunderstood your remarks about Hillary.
SHANE: Where do you live in Ireland. I am seriously thinking of visiting Ireland in June before I go to spend 2 weeks with my friend in France. My great grandmother, Julia Sullivan, was born in CORK.
#129 rlp33
Cavuto asking about would we buy the line that Hillary had that the Repubs caused this bail out mess.
Cavuto,
This has ben a processes. We are not the same Democrats. We moved on.
I think Hillary gets that if not, oh well. Bill gets it so Hillary probably feels the same.
MZEbest; on your post do you think the second youtube is factual, just asking before I send it out.
This Wednesday, October 8th, please join Barack Obama for a rally in Indianapolis, where he will talk about his vision for creating the kind of change we need.
Change We Need Rally
with Barack Obama
Indiana State Fairgrounds
1202 E 38th St
Indianapolis, IN
Wednesday, October 8th
Doors Open: 10:00 a.m.
Program Begins: 12:15 p.m.
http://in.barackobama.com/IndianapolisChange
The event is free and open to the public. Tickets are not required; however an RSVP is strongly encouraged.
For security reasons, do not bring bags. Please limit personal items. No signs or banners allowed.
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If you cannot make it to this event but would still like to support Barack, you can make a donation here:
https://donate.barackobama.com/wecan
SLY: Be careful, SLY, or TEXAS will be putting you in time out when she finally gets up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqlwZj4cLXk
Do the polls take us into account? How many puma’s are there reg. on this site. I am just curious. We should each represent thousands.
Has any one watched the youth Alpha Omega you tube and is it true?
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TACTICS
TO TURN THE SWING STATES
FIRMLY IN OUR FAVOR
No matter where you are…
In the Action Center there are more ideas and resources (see “Landi’s strategies…”, the Media links & resources, Prowls, etc, etc):
http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html
Home: http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html
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you know what pumas
i hope AA get really fed up with mrpovertypimp
and rebel agaist this guy
he is not the portray of AA
AA are not thugs, are not antiamerican radicals, and not people that get things thru fraud, do not want to destroy the very nature of our institutions, do not belive that white are evil ….etc..
he is not even to the level of shoe´s sole of JFK, CLINTON, MLK ,MGHANDI,ETC, he should be punished for comparing himself to these people
one could say, he has not held a decent job in his life, thru merits
because being a state senator and federal senator thru
an non honorable manner is indecent
Here is the link to the Harriet Christian interview with Neal Cavuto from yesterday. Enjoy!
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3130385&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/yourworld/index.html
#13 windybon
Thanks for the tip. I just emailed my letter to McCain.
Received a letter from BO and the DP asking for money. Just mailed my Hillary bucks!
92 Asian4Hillary
“Does Hillary have the same worry as we do? Hell shit no! Bill and Hillary Clinton is worth $100 million, they’re filthy rich! Sarah Palin can relate more to us than Hillary, how ordinary American lives. Just look at Income Tax Return (2006 & 2007) of Todd & Sarah Palin; the couple did not even reach 200K. Sarah Palin should be jumping with joy with NObama tax cut, she’s qualified for the tax cut according to NObama’s plan, but she isn’t. She knew NObama will increase her taxes one way or the other.”
I agree with your opinion.
Yesterday I posted an invitation from Hillary for a cocktail fundrising to help to pay her debt.
This morning when I woke up I turned the TV and the first person I see is Hillary speaking about JM. She said he is a great person and bla,bla, but that she more confident that Obobo, is more capable,and ready to be the next POTUS and that we need him in the White House.
And that she came to L.A. to campaign for him.
So…. That is not what she said before ?????
By the way Sara Palin is also in L.A., but there is no more tickets to get into the Home Depot Center.
Just my 2 cents
I really am getting worried, where aRE THE REPUBLICAN BAG OF TRICKS WHEN YOU NEED THEM. BHO I think has found them and made them multiply. This is why the DNC wanted him, he is the new democrat. Lie, cheat and steal an election. Change, yeah right.
I love Hillary and Bill. They never had much money until the books, however, she needs to retire her own debt, then write another book.
161 Hillgirl on 10.04.08 at 1:10 pm
Here is the link to the Harriet Christian interview with Neal Cavuto from yesterday. Enjoy!
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Thanks Hillgirl, I am sure she will raise the sleepers and some of PumaPac members who seem on the edge of giving up and the fight has only just begun.
The next thirty days are just like the last two rounds in a boxing match and up to this point the judges are giving each contestent even points.
And we agree to, at PumaPac, is Harriet Christian’s sentiments never ever Obama!!!
hillary 2008..
yes,they are stealing,lying and cheating and they are getting away with it..
I realize we are voting for McCain as vote against Obama but are or should we be donating to the McCain camp to help them win this fight?
Is anyone doing this?
rlp..
buy mccain signs , bumper stickers and tee shirts
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**** DON’T MISS THIS!!! ****
“Hannity’s America” EXPOSÉ: All of Barack Obama’s Radical Connections
FOXNews Sunday (tomorrow) at 9 pm EST)
Be sure to watch the 1-hour EXPOSÉ on all of Barack Obama’s radical connections and associations hosted by Sean Hannity on his show, “Hannity’s America”.
The special will air on Sunday, Oct. 5 (TOMORROW), at 9:00 p.m. EST on the FOX-News channel.
To quote Sean Hannity, “No one else in the television news media is going to cover this information”.
…………..
#163 ElyLos Angeles
Hillary is now FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS. She said during primary; “Me and John McCain will years of experience into the Whitehouse, Barack will bring speeches.” This is not the only contradiction Hillary have created since she start stomping for NObama. She also said NObama is not qualified to be President, in fact insiders said Hillary had argument with DNC officials telling them, NObama is not qualified to run this country and can’t win against John McCain.
I guess Hillary have to say what she has to say, to make herself politically viable with the party. Hillary is not doing this for the people but for herself, I understand why she’s doing this. I don’t begrudge her stomping for NObama even if she’s contradicting herself, it is plain and simple politics at the end of the day – this is all about her, it has nothing to do with the people or this country.
Hillary will always have my support, but she and I parted ways when it comes to NObama. My support for her has nothing to do with the party, I supported because of her experience, what she can do for OUR country, not for her party.
Never fall in love with politicians, they have the uncanny ability of breaking your heart, never pledge complete loyalty with politicians, always leave a room for reservation in case that loyalty you bestowed on them would be shattered like a fine china. Never believe a politician who promises too much; NObama have shown his promises has expiration date, FISA was just one of his broken promises; he made a promise to his supporters he will filibuster it and vote against it, he voted for it. Would he give tax cut to middle America? Can you rely on his word?
One thing I can say with NObama, the man doesn’t haveWORD OF HONOR. If he can break his promise about FISA, he would BREAK ANY PROMISES he had spoken. Precedents are all there, only a fool and the naive will believe him now.
NObama is a like a Romeo who would promise marriage to a girl until she gets pregnant and off he goes to another woman.
Sean Hannity did an outstanding piece in FOX recently linking Obama to the mortgage loan scandal.
SEE IT HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbyVvcDmLhQ
** DON’T MISS “HANNITY’S AMERICA” Sun night, 9pm ON FOX.
Tomorrow Hannity will cover BO & all his shady associations
i have to say sean hannity has been the number one media taikng head who has consistently and strongly been NOBAMA ..he deserves alot of credit for being a beacon of truth
rlp
Yes. I am making calls, I have not yet donated, but ,may send 25 0r 50 bucks. I have donated alot to puma, Hillary, other groups. McCain needs people like us to talk to democrats, to warn democrats.
heard on the radio the other day at some rally mccain was at.. some woman asked mccain when is he going to take off the gloves and start fighting back..to the thunderous applause of the audience..
he answered by saying that he would start at the next debate..
#169 osaka puma
I went to the shop and saw this.
Proceeds from
sales of merchandise do not benefit McCain-Palin 2008 and should not be considered a campaign contribution
Don’t sound like this will help his campaign get money..
maybe mccains plan was to save his ammuntion for the last month of the election??
Interesting article in case anyone is interested about Bamabots trying to circumvent anti-campaigning at voting stations – once again the little cheaters are trying to defy the law, stack the deck and play dirty…..
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20081004/48e6ea40_3ca6_1552620081004-1272685518
GOP, Democrats battle in Pa. over voter dress code
By MARTHA RAFFAELE (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
October 04, 2008 9:01 AM EDT
HARRISBURG, Pa. – Sue Nace thought election volunteers were joking when they told her she would have to remove her T-shirt to vote in the presidential primary last spring.
But it was no laughing matter to the poll workers-turned-fashion police, who said Nace’s Obama shirt was inappropriate electioneering – and made her cover the writing before casting a ballot.
Now, a political fight over what voters can wear to the polls is headed to court in Pennsylvania – with the Republican Party favoring a dress code and Democrats opposed. …..
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Oh GREAT!! so some one has brought that to his attention. Yeah!
For Halloween.
what to do when an Obot hack enters an S mart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NmzF9pj9Yk
Ash clearly votes McCain
just for giggles.
rlp.. im sure mccains website has a donation section..
go there and donate if you want
Attention Everyone Who Lives In Pa. Must Know Information!!!!
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS BRAVE WOMEN FROM PA. YOU HAVE SEEN HER AT THE DNC COMMITTEE ON MAY 31 AND YOU HAVE SEEN HER AT THE CLINTON EXIT AND AT THE PROTEST IN NEW YORK. SHE IS ORGANIZING A PROTEST IN PA AT, “State College PA” at 2 PM on 10/13/2008. YOU CAN CONTACT HER ON HER YOUTUBE AT http://www.youtube.com/user/Pondarama AND SEND HER A MESSAGE OR COMMENT OR YOU CAN CONTACT AT THIS EMAIL AT
BJ@Free-us-now.com
peaceful march wear anything NOBAMA at all your choice- please come please show up.
Oh and please blog this everywhere you can and post it.
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
434 West 33rd Street
New York, NY 10001
212-541-7800
FAX 212-245-1845
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
1110 Vermont Ave. NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20005
202-973-4800
FAX: 202-296-3242
Media Contacts: 212-261-4650 or 202-973-4882
insert word “laws” at end “circumvent anti-campaigning at voting station….” in my post # 178 above.
Thank you, DWP.
Attention Everyone Who Lives In Pa. Must Know Information!!!!
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS BRAVE WOMEN FROM PA. YOU HAVE SEEN HER AT THE DNC COMMITTEE ON MAY 31 AND YOU HAVE SEEN HER AT THE CLINTON EXIT AND AT THE PROTEST IN NEW YORK. SHE IS ORGANIZING A PROTEST IN PA AT, “State College PA” at 2 PM on 10/13/2008. YOU CAN CONTACT HER ON HER YOUTUBE AT http://www.youtube.com/user/Pondarama AND SEND HER A MESSAGE OR COMMENT OR YOU CAN CONTACT AT THIS EMAIL AT
BJ@Free-us-now.com
peaceful march wear anything NOBAMA at all your choice- please come please show up.
Oh and please blog this everywhere you can and post it..
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/ObamaZobiescopy.jpg
I should dress as a zombie and walk around town with an Obama sign.
187 shampoovta on 10.04.08 at 1:48 pm http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/ObamaZobiescopy.jpg
I should dress as a zombie and walk around town with an Obama sign.
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That creates a great visual in my mind, except I would have you carrying one of those kool-aid pitchers in your hand, you know the pitcher that has the happy face on it.
#188 TerryDo
LOL that’s grate.
I know what I am going to be for Halloween.
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rlp33 (post 168) WROTE:
I realize we are voting for McCain as vote against Obama but are or should we be donating to the McCain camp to help them win this fight?
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It certainly is an effective strategy to help defeat BO! For one, it helps them to produce & air those great anti-BO TV ADS for swing states, etc, etc….
Another strategy is to sign up at McCain’s website ( http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank ) to make phone calls.
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170 LandiPUMA on 10.04.08 at 1:32 pm ……………..
**** DON’T MISS THIS!!! ****
“Hannity’s America” EXPOSÉ: All of Barack Obama’s Radical Connections
FOXNews Sunday (tomorrow) at 9 pm EST)
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Thanks LandiPUMA for this post, I will definitely watch Hannity’s show tonight.
Please post this information every three hours so others will be reminded to watch or tibo his EXPOSÉ.
And if you are unable to, perhaps you will permit me to repost your post, as I am sure you have other messages and visits to attend to today.
Never Ever Obama!
Hi Puma’s,
Well I refuse to give up, if that make’s any sense as we all look at the poll numbers and BoBo is still ahead!!
I try to do all the prowl’s I can here. I have E-mailed people in my address book with info from this blog and other article’s I’ve read. I have made phone calls to my congressmen on not voting for the Cha-Ching bailout bill. And I have signed up to help out with the McCain campaign. Also after Palin’s debate on Thursday I tried to vote on all the polls on the net, but like other people have said, I also think they are fixed.
Also Bruce Springsteen is hosting a free concert get out the vote here in Phila., Pa. this weekend before our deadline on Monday to register to vote.
I am hoping that the McCain campaign really starts bringing out the AMO this Month or I feel it will all be over as I see on YouTube that the Obama camp is going after the youth and homeless in Ohio.
I can’t remember ever hearing this much turmoil going on before in the elections. The volume of information is overwelming this year. And I, like all of you feel we have to keep pushing through all the rubish and hopefully there will be a clearing in the distant future!
Puma Power!!
#192 Changes4me
I agree
rip33
I have donated to McCain, blogged for him, and made phone bank calls. I see Puma names on his website. Making those phone calls really helps.
#116 DWP,
My comment wasn’t meant to be an insult, I was just trying to light a fire under some butts. I didn’t call anyone out by name, so I wasn’t aware that I was breaking any rules. I find it interesting that out of everything I said in post #45 and #69 that that is the only comment that got your attention. No comments about the prowl idea.
DWP, the truth is that there have been several people over the last 3-4 days that HAVE been complaining and their post are taking on a defeatist tone. Like it or not, I see that as whinny. So, if this one comment is going to get me banned from the blog, so be it. I stand by what I said. The whinny people know who they are so I’m not going to retrace every post to back up my opinion.
Personally, I don’t think that a negative attitude is helpful with morale. IF we are going to beat BO, I think we need to do our best to stay optimistic and stay focused. We still have time to beat Obama. A team effort is needed for this task. So as a team, we need to help each other stay focused, positive and action oriented. That was my point, and sometimes I don’t take to time to explain myself very well.
Look, I’m not here to be liked, in fact I’m almost certain that because I’m a Republican, I’m probably not going to get too many party invites from the crowd here. :lol But that’s okay, I like y’all anyway.
We have the same goal here, to beat Obama. Yes, we have different reasons for that goal but just like me, you own your vote and can do what you want with it.
While I’m thankful that PUMA is working to defeat Obama, I don’t believe that I owe you all any more thanks then any other group that is actively working to defeat Obama. If “my boy” wins by default it may benefit my party but it will benefit PUMA just as much. I’m aware that the truth is that the majority of PUMA peeps are not voting for McCain for my benefit or for McCain’s benefit, they are voting for McCain for their benefit, and for Hillary’s benefit so she can have a chance at winning in 2012. So, if you’re lucky, Obama will lose and Hillary will have that chance. If Obama loses we will both owe each other some gratitude.
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#116 DancesWithPumas on 10.04.08 at 12:13 pm
I’d think you’d want to think twice before insulting people on this blog… especially since some have worked so hard to defeat obama , and hand your boy a win by default. If you’re lucky and they still decide to vote pull the mccain lever, they may be the deciding factor in an obama loss.
Besides, you’re breaking one of Puma Pac’s few rules.
SHAMPOOVTA:
Sorry, but it is still GREAT!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933
iMPORTANT READ ON THE BERG LAWSUIT.
Does anyone know which states have a higher percentage of PUMAs?
Tell five friends to watch Hannity. We know this stuff, we really must spread the word.
SOS Prowl Complete:
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7-127-13162-25634–,00.html
In case you aren’t aware of the voter fraud being committed by ACORN, I have included the following news article:
http://www.nwi.com/articles/2008/10/02/news/lake_county/doc5399904569d23a75862574d600010e55.txt
Tell me what you plan to DO, specifically, about voter fraud in Michigan? I am all for people getting involved in politics–but not dead or non-existant people or multiple registrations. ACORN had a hand in voter fraud all throughout the Democratic primaries and is continuing its antics in the general election.
Thank you for your time.
Hillary is still asking donation to pay her vendors. The reason for this is plain and simple, when a candidate run for Presidential nomination all the way to general election; the Democratic National Committee is responsible for those unpaid bills incurred by a candidate. That’s the reason Hillary did not quit when she was ordered by DNC and other big boss of the Democratic Party to do so. If she quit, she would be 100% responsible for all unpaid bills. What Hillary is doing right now is helping the DNC able to meet its obligation.
DO NOT DONATE to Hillary, let the DNC look for money to pay her vendors. The DNC cannot accuse Hillary of not helping them!
Pumas I happen to live right across the street from my polling place. The side of my house faces the polling place. I keep toying with the idea of plastering the side of my house with a giant NOBAMA on election day.
My other thought is that I can’t trust the Obots to stay off my property and leave my sign alone, I’d have to put up cameras to catch proof of any of them trespassing on my property. I of course would have no problem prosecuting them if they did come on my property. (we have had issues here with Obots removing McCain/Palin lawn signs from people’s yards)
Just wondering what you all think?
changes4..
the obama people are active,militant and highly motivated to win..they know this and they also see that america is full of ignorant dumbed down people who dont have a clue and are too busy playing with their toys,watching idiot TV programs,trying so hard to be cool,shaking their booty and being clowns..
those obama kids you see on the video marching and wearing military style fatigues are going to clean house with those idiot moron kids out there obsessed with skateboards ,giggling like fools at MTV,bitching and moaning about more money and the toys they want from mom and dad..these little yuppy maggot larvae dont have a chance to survive in the new world were heading into..
FBI looking at another Obama friend
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2008/10/another-obama-c.html
192 Changes4me on 10.04.08 at 1:58 pm Hi Puma’s,
Well I refuse to give up, if that make’s any sense as we all look at the poll numbers and BoBo is still ahead!!
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Obama may get the youth to register to vote, but that does not guarantee they will vote for him. These students have parents and family political views that cannot be changed so easily. They may say “yea man right on” but they still hear their parents advice on important issues.
And as far as homeless, I thought you needed i.d. plus have an address?
And one last and most important group you may have overlooked and that is the baby boomers and the 40+ citizens who supported Hillary Clinton.
They are still angry, and I do not even care if the adjective “bitter” is used to describe us, they/we make up the majority.
I am not saying that they are all for McCain but better McCain than an unknown who won’t even open his university papers and grades. Let alone show his proper/legal birth certificate.
So, fear not, Reform and the two Mavericks will be in Washington before you know it.
PumaPac == Mavericks
Just a thought, I must go and do some money to keep the economy going
I only had one prowl returned as undeliverable this morning.I use the news outlets email addresses that I have in my address book.
Does anyone have a correct email address for Lou Dobbs? The one that I formerly used does not work anymore.
#171 Asian4Hillary
You are right with all your comments.
That’s exactly what I feel about Hillary and Nobama.
Voting for McCain is my way to say NO to the messiah.
azpuma ! it seems like forever since I have seen youon here – And BMW is back today too I see ! woooo hooooo
Good afternoon Pumas !
lilibet – did you see what sly posted in 142 ?? I think she needs some alone time when she gets back !
az- put up a HUGE sign !!!!! And then sit by it with a big ass dog !
Thank you TexasTigress……I’ve been here just more in lurk mode..
azpuma.. there is nothing you can do..there are too many of them on the streets
#155 lilibet Oh please I can handle miss texast
#189 shampoovta #188 TerryDo both are great idea’s and when you walk around instead of saying brains say KOOOOLLLLLL-AID I NEED KOOOOOLLLLLAID…. lol
#204 atypical holy shit it never stops with him does it.
#200 pa dem so you just wrote didn’t call on the phone? I was gonna call but they wanted my drivers license number and other stuff before i could even talk to anyone.
TexasTigress That is a great idea….I don’t have a great big dog, but my dog definitely looks and sounds vicious and won’t let anyone near her house!
Az- we were looking at the old puma videos the other day and I wondered where the hell you were- so I am glad you are putting you’re not lurking today
azpuma.. if your dog even nips at an obama creep you will be hit by a big law suit by the naacp and the aclu..they will take you to the cleaners..im not joking
az- see- then you can just take the sign down when the polls close
You could take a freaking SHEET and paint the top 10 reasons no to vote for Bobo on it or something ! lol
osaka – not in your own yard , and not in Tx. or AZ.
We dont even have Jehova wittnesses in Tx. going door to door !!!!!!!!!!!lol
Osaka Puma…no worries she just likes to bark….she is actually a pussy cat and won’t nip…..
oh yeah.. thats all you need to do is put up a freaking white sheet..now you are a KKK member..thats not a good idea
osaka – LOL !!!!!!!!! How ‘about an orange sheet ? You are a feisty one today
TT.. you underestimate the treachery and cleverness of the obamaites.. those SOBs could easily fake a dog bite with convenient witnesses,make some money off a laws suit and make you an example of what happens to people who go against obama
#196 lilibet
Oh ya a did it again huh.
I never did get the hang of that spelling thing. To old to care now.
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I think this Acorn story is working . It showing up on digg swarm more often now.
TT.. those obama people are not playing games..this isnt a game..this is the real shit going on out there..
azpuma I believe and check with the police but if someone comes in your yard uninvited and they get bit by your dog it is not your dogs fault for protecting your property. Now there maybe a fine line like your dog should be in fenced in yard or tied up but I would check with the police and let them know what is happening just say people are coming into your yard unwelcomed what if my dog bites one of them
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TerryDo (#191) WROTE:
170 LandiPUMA on 10.04.08 at 1:32 pm ……………..
**** DON’T MISS THIS!!! ****
“Hannity’s America” EXPOSÉ: All of Barack Obama’s Radical Connections
FOXNews Sunday (tomorrow) at 9 pm EST)
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Thanks LandiPUMA for this post, I will definitely watch Hannity’s show tonight.
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Hi TerryDo! Maybe you meant to say “tomorrow”, but just to make sure you don’t tune in on the wrong night… the show is TOMORROW night (not “tonight”)…
“Hannity’s America”, Sunday Oct 5 at 9 pm on FOX (will expose BO’s shady connections)
Here’s a link w/ pretty much the same info I posted:
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2097239/posts
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Just returned from a jaunt around town here in Philadelphia–the place is infested with Bots. Voter registration Bots on every corner–buttons, tee shirts. Very discouraging and enraging (if that is a word). But Philly has always been for Obama. I hope there are McCain strongholds in the rest of the country. I hope some of you can give me a new perspective from where you live! There is a big Bruce Springsteen concert here tonight for the chosen one. Ugh.
As the obama campaign is going to be stepping up its door to door push I think “beware of Pumas” yard signs would be most welcome.
Florida State Rep. Stan Mayfield, 52, dies of cancer : Indian River County …
Google him for more info
I see what you are saying osaka . Wouldn’t want any pumas put in a bad position .
loudobbs@cnn.com lilibet this is the one I have used and it always works for me. If for some reason it doesn’t I have another one you can try.
Oh Bull Sh*t! WTF?? Parasites! We need some pesticide!
AP
Credit markets to Washington: Bailout isn’t enough
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081003/credit_markets.html
hillgirl.. that same case for most of the american urban areas..obama owns them now..
TT… the obama supporters feel bold and confident they can bully and intimidate people …
they will continue to push until people start pushing back,and if you dare to fight back you will be destroyed for being a racist..you see how it works??
lillibet: RE: HRC supporters
THEY ARE NOT STALWART SUPPORTERS or they wouldn’t be abandoning Hillary now.
EXCUSE ME lillibet, but I’ve been a loyal Hillary supporter since the her 2 books were published and her beginning of her campaign for this election. I donated $s, provided a home-away-from-home for members of her campaign staff, my husband provided computer services on the “Donkey System” (as the Dems call it), blogged, and was one of about 80 women in Oregon to host a teleconference event here in my home during the Primary. I’ve been a stalwart and Democrat all my life.
But I have to tell ya, being a principled business woman too, who’s had to act tenaciously and steadfast within corporate boardroom environments, I cannot and will not condone Senator Clinton’s support and siding with the DNC and Obama, as seen during the last month–for she has literally “flip-flopped” on her very own words. In my view, she has unfortunately proven herself a ‘politician’.
Women in business, in politics, and all fields have fought too hard since the late 60s and 70s to support this kind of unethical and un-trusting flip-flop behavior from of our own.
I realize you too have supported Senator Clinton since the early days of her site, but I have to disagree with your comment noted above.
In fact, when first joining PUMA, if I’d known then what I’ve witnessed today, I would have changed my loggin to “Hill+DemsNOT4me”.
I WILL be casting my precious vote this November. But it will be to defeat *61+DNC. It will be for McCain/Palin.
If I’ve stepped on toes (paws) this morning, I apologize. But I’m not sorry for expressing my views here in Murphy’s place.
LILIBET – I use this contact form for Lou Dobbs and have even gotten a response back:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?76
One more time
I think a great idea for yard signs would be:
BE AWARE OF PUMAS
any thoughts
people.. hillarys world is not your world..hillary lives in a different universe..she doesnt have to worry about food bills,house payments or the car breaking down… hillary is an aristocrat and in her world if she feels down she can fly to europe and hang out at the french riviera sipping champainge to ease her pain..
#236 henry u said that awhile ago and I thought it was a great idea then, wish we could have some made I’d put it in my yard. I love living here, I’ve got McCain/Palin sticker on my car , and yard sign, I’ve got NOBAMA sticker in my car, Hillary supporter for McCain on my car and don’t nobody mess with it. That sucks having to live where people f ck with you because you don’t agree with them.
195 mick
I agree with you about defeatist attitudes, etc.
I agree with you about trying to motivate Pumas.
The “whiney ass Democrats” phrase it what got to me.
The PUMA Movement was formed by, I’ll use your phrase, “whiney assed” Democrats. I don’t know if, as a Republican, you get the gestalt of the Puma Movement.
I can’t begin to enumerate all the components that comprise the genesis of PUMA.
Imagine being a loyal, dedicated, lifelong Democrat, with a profound belief in the principles of democracy, who has just witnessed an election coup of mindboggling proportions… from within your own party.
Imagine having the only competant candidate ramshodded, undermined, verbally assaulted from all quarters, and ordered out of your party’s primary election…. even though she won.
Imagine, on top of that, being stranded with a choice of the likes of a racist, sexist, lackwitted, jacklegged candidate, of unknown principles and positions.
Or, on the other hand, a right-wing, war-mongering, sexist, dullwit, whose major campaign mantra is that he was a p.o.w. 40 years ago.
Now imagine that the strongest strategy to defeating the first candidate, and the people who engineered the coup that enabled his selection as the nomine, is to vote for the second loser.
Is it any wonder that we’re not inspired, motivated, excited? Every Puma has inherited the right to whine.
I’m not encouraging inaction. I’m just saying that all thinking Democrats, or newly ex-Democrats have earned the right to whine, and it’s especially difficult to hear a Republican, who stands to benefit from that which we have lost, endured, and expended tremendous amounts of energy and money fighting against, refer to us as “whiney assed Democrats”. That’s all I’m saying.
Mention the Hannity Show on BO friendly sites. Be nice about it. Do not tell them the subject matter.
The lanaguage is a bit strong, but it is some cynical sarcasm a bit on the humorus side…
Sal In Harlem with black voters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PgV3_1_qlc
#240 stoney42 I will do it but telling you know inless you live under a rock i am sure anyone who likes BO knows Hannity don’t like him and I’m sure they won’t watch that show but it’s a good idea.
sly2…..this same obama intimidation thing is happening all over the country and most go unreported..i think you would be shocked at how prevalent this crap is..
(((((go gandolf)))))) You though I said you sucked the other day !!! NOOOOO – only Dances !!!! YOU are amazing !!!
Oh , hello there dances , and how is your day today ?
#236 henry
That is a good idea! Puma parking only, I’m with Puma, Puma on board.
Wonderful!
Dances – I am impressed are you Murphy?? That was passionate and I love passion and you are so pretty too.
TT – and you are pretty too LOL
Reagan’s words have never been more accurate:
Government’s [Obama's] view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” And if it is very successful, demonize it.
The last sentence is my addition.
Obama and Biden ’08
Compulsive Liars for Change
henry
What about a yard sign:
PUMA TERRITORY
“All Bots will be marked”
Make the signs yellow and orange
they will stand out. include a link to find out more.
if noithing else the signs will exempt ud from arguing at our doors with bots.
Oh add another sentence:
If people are together divide them into race and class.
#234 Hill4me
The way I see it, if I was a blind follower of Hillary just because she’s Hillary (regardless of her actions) that would make me a Hillarybot…relative to the dreaded Obot. I can’t do that. In 4 years I’ll be happy to re-examine this issue. But right now, at least for me, she’s a non-issue. My apologies to those who disagree. In the meantime, on with the defeat of BO in whatever manner each of us deems best.
how about hanging signs up somewhere on the house or in the window
A McCain sign says one thing a puma sign says a lot more.
Lawsuit Prowl to media:
When will the media start reporting on Obama’s questionable citizenship? Don’t you find it interesting that the DNC’s request to dismiss the case did not include the appropriate documents (birth
certificate, oath of allegiance, etc)? Berg has repeatedly stated that he would drop the lawsuit if the DNC handed over proof of Obama’s citizenship to the courts. Obama and the DNC continue to refuse to
comply, indicating that Berg is correct. Berg has had over 19 million hits to his website, and yet, the media hasn’t covered this very important issue.
News story covering lawsuit:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933
Berg’s official website:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
The actual court filings can be found here:
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/
I hope Ron and Nicole can finally share a long overdue smile up in heaven.
Azpuma
If you do put up a giant Nobama(and maybe also some reasons why not to vote for him), I bet you will likely
get some news media exposure along with it (or maybe we can help try to arrange for one?).
Be prepared however that some of your Obot neighbors will make some complains against you and you may need to wash off those eggs (or worst – rocks) thrown onto your walls and windows, and you certainly should put up a live surveillance cam and make sure your dog is fenced in and not fed by any stranger.
the days of that great american tradition of planting campaign signs in your front yard was when we had a more civil and sane society..those days are gone now along with Opie and the Fonz….now we live in the jungle
hi your norhtern neighbor! long time no correspondi, how are you? Hope you are well.
Fixed it.
Government’s [Obama's] view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If people are peaceful, divide them by race and class. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. And if it is very successful, demonize it.
Obama and Biden ’08
Compulsive Liars for Change
#212 slyt2: I emailed b/c it is Saturday, and I figured they weren’t in the office.
#236 henry
Something like this!
Glory Days
Let’s get that Denver Group / Country Before Party Ad about Obama aired during the baseball games in the swing states, check out the “Glory Days” Action Alert on http://clintondems.com/
Murphys permission is begged for a “beware of Pumas” sign. Not enough time left to have them them made and ordered and delivered. We make them ourselves so when the young army is walking the streets they will know to walk on by. Kind of like paining lambs blood over your door. The angel of death will walk by’
If Murphy agrees to sign I suggest they be big with an easily readable link to more info. I personnally like the colors orange/yellow/black.
oops,..
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/Pumaparkingonly.jpg
hey there PA Dem!
hi osaka! totally off-topic, but do you know anything about Japanese tattoos?
Namaste, Dances ~~~
Murphy
#234 Hill4me
I’m with you 100%, Hillary is a consumate politician. Her loyalty is to her own party.
japanese tattoos have been up until recent times identified with yakuzi criminals..
there is an ancent tattoo art form that was called irezumi.. now because of western influence tattoos are more accepted
I’m reading posts from the bottom up, so I’m not sure what the argument is here.
#237 osaka puma SAID on 10.04.08 at 2:41 pm
people.. hillarys world is not your world..hillary lives in a different universe..she doesnt have to worry about food bills,house payments or the car breaking down… hillary is an aristocrat and in her world if she feels down she can fly to europe and hang out at the french riviera sipping champainge to ease her pain..
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And yet Hillary has chosen a job — Senator from NY — where she has to look at food bills, car repair costs, etc etc for ALL the citizens of NY.
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Barney Frank’s former lover head of Fannie Mae
Excerpts from:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/barney-franks-former-lover-head-of-fannie-mae/
Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefited from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.
So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.
“If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican…. this would be considered germane,” “But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard.”
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Landi’s comments: We’re fighting for gay rights, but that doesn’t mean we should try to “protect” a gay man when there’s wrongdoing…… just like we’re fighting for women’s right but don’t protect (or cover for) a women (like Nancy Pelosi) just ‘coz she’s a woman! (or an AA just ‘coz he’s AA– like you-know-who!)
A circle of corruption crystallizing: Barney plus his ex-lover and BO’s advisors (Raines & Johnson) in Fannie Mae plus Dodd and BO himself (& a few other players)…
Two good articles on the F/F-BO connection (from Sept):
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=75998
http://hennessysview.com/2008/09/15/franklin-raines-criminal-enterprise-and-barack-obama-his-accomplice/
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Here’s an email I received from clintondems.com; I’m a member.
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Hello Clinton Dems!
There are times when inaction can jeopardize the quality of your future. It appears that time is at hand.
Americans are at a crossroads. Will we reaffirm what it means to be a Democratic society by standing up to compromised elected officials and communicate our displeasure at how they spend our treasure? Will we reclaim America for the people?
There are many wealthy individuals wielding unfathomed influence on our representatives in government, even at the highest levels. Many in the media are afraid to anger those demi-gods for fear of losing their own precious revenue streams.
There is a humongous disconnect between the average American and their representatives today largely due to the “bounty” bestowed on them by companies and individuals wishing to exert influence. It is seriously warping their perpective.
The current culture of corruption is not limited to the Republicans we reviled for all these years. Senior members of both parties apparently look at American taxpayers and see an “all you can cheat” buffet. Now those same politicians are asking us to pick up the tab for their “retirement”.
Contact your representatives and tell them enough is enough! No more pork-filled buffet!
Now we are forced to make a very tough choice. Many life-long Democrats are, for the first time, having a moral dilemma when it comes to supporting the Democratic candidate for President.
Those of us that have followed this election closely from the beginning have seen things that would make it virtually impossible to cast a vote for the Democrats this year.
John McCain’s campaign recognized the situation immediately and wisely extended a hand to the PUMAs. They let us know that, although we may have some policy differences, we agree on one critical tenent:
Country before party.
Yes, we are in “upside-down” land. Many of us will be casting votes for McCain-Palin. If you, as Clinton Democrats can’t go there, we totally understand.
However, it is time to shore up the Democratic arm of the Democratic party. This will be accomplished by exposing those complicit in the manipulation and corrosion of our system of democracy. We must be activist in booting out these cowardly & self-serving members of both parties.
ACTION:
Clinton Dems is not related to the Denver Group, now known as Democrats for Principle before Party, but we support their efforts wholeheartedly. They have been instrumental in raising awareness of the strong-arm and undemocratic practices that have been employed by the Democrat power structure in this election season.
They plan to air a powerful ad in critical states and could use any financial assistance you can offer. If you want to learn more about this effort or contribute, please click on the link below:
Democrats for Principle before Party
Let’s keep diligent so that, as Lincoln said, “our government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
Clinton Dems
Keep Fighting!
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
~ Thomas Jefferson
Slyt2
You never know if they will watch or not. They may be curious.
How do we get the undecideds to watch Hannity?
Gogandalf
are you blogging at the women’s blogs under this screenname or another? I’m using one that starts with the letter “z”. I’m asking because it’d be encouraging to recognize another Puma in that alien territory.
hey Murphy: coming to visit me for the Oct 13th protest??
I can’t wait to meet some PUMAs!
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EVERYONE KNOWS THIS BRAVE WOMEN FROM PA. YOU HAVE SEEN HER AT THE DNC COMMITTEE ON MAY 31 AND YOU HAVE SEEN HER AT THE CLINTON EXIT AND AT THE PROTEST IN NEW YORK. SHE IS ORGANIZING A PROTEST IN PA AT, “State College PA” at 2 PM on 10/13/2008. YOU CAN CONTACT HER ON HER YOUTUBE AT http://www.youtube.com/user/Pondarama AND SEND HER A MESSAGE OR COMMENT OR YOU CAN CONTACT AT THIS EMAIL AT
BJ@Free-us-now.com
peaceful march wear anything NOBAMA at all your choice- please come please show up.
Murphy: I wouldn’t trust a Canon Lawyer’s logic and reasoning on ANY issue let alone the reasons this guy is voting for Obimbo…Canon law.?..Canon lawyer ..the law that more than one diocese and bishop used to protect priests who allegegely and actually sexually abused children…from access to civil courts!…Canon Law …the law that magically can show how being married is not being married and thus can be annulled ..for a price and a good Canon lawyer…while no one can ever be divorced,
A canon lawyer who served as a General Counsel to a Diocese…woh…This guy can find a reason to back or support anything, anyone, anytime….his logic in the article is circuitous. This canon lawyer like all lawyers clearly has a penchant for the relativistic…
thus, Obama…who, is going according to this guy,
teach “the sacredness” of sex to our children?..where in public schools? …Sacred? Canon Lawyers are concerned about bureaucracy, how to use it to clergy advantage and how, thus, to call “sacred” whatever is left after one wins! I wonder what this guy thinks about the intrinsicly evil nature of the Alinsky method of achieving self-interest?…the intrinsicly evil method of a system that has no where within ii any boundries of moral or ethical action? Where self is center and all not self is material to use to serve self? This is enough reason for any Catholic or any anybody to reject this outrageous empty fraud, Obama.
About 25 minutes ago on FOX, they interviewed a man in Nashville who is in charge of making preparations for Tuesday’s Presidential Debate. He said the questions for the candidates will be coming from GALLUP (I guess the people they survey) AND that if anyone wanted to submit questions for the candidates…go to MyDebates.org and submit them. This may be the chance to ask Obama about his association with William Ayers, ACORN, Caucus Fraud in the Primaries, etc. We can even ask questions about the Phil Berg’s lawsuit here in PA? Please let’s swamp them with questions for OBAMA that the Media won’t ask.
275 DancesWithPumas Which blogs are those?
Hello hillstheone!
I am doing well, thank you. How are you hills?
I have read most of your posts and you are such a great puma !
We really do have a tough fight on our hands unless McCain will rachet up his campaign effort soon since Palin is doing whatever she can to help already.
murphy: totally off topic, but I don’t have any tattoos b/c I can’t get buried in the cemetary with them.
#202 azpuma on 10.04.08 at 2:09 pm
Pumas I happen to live right across the street from my polling place. The side of my house faces the polling place. I keep toying with the idea of plastering the side of my house with a giant NOBAMA on election day.
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Check with your local election rules. Most say no signs etc within 50 feet (or some such distance) of the polling place.
kai.. i have a better idea on choosing questions for the debates.. take 2 groups equal in size from both parties ..each side produces questions for the candidate of the opposing party..
279 mountainsong
hello. the prowl is posted at http://pumapac.org/alerts.html
It’s the gogandalf, murphy prowl near the top.
all the info is in the word document. Click on the link.
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276 pa dem
have you sent that info to the puma pac northeast regional moderator to broadcast?
northeast@pumapac.org
#284 DancesWithPumas All these prowls! When does a girl get to come out and play?
oops, forgot to mention that the bar upstairs is now open.
take it upstairs!
#252
I love the Clintons because they did great things for our country, that being said, they are still politicians. Look at what Bill is doing with his Global Initative. They are far superior to Pelosi, Dean, Reid, BHO, Brazille, Kerry.
I would have loved them both back. Nobama will usher in a new kind of politics, something that I hope to never see.
My head is spinning, reading many of this mornings posts.
For those that have given up on Hillary and are mad at her… keep in mind how hard we have worked to make sure the Convention had a fair roll call.
How hard we have worked to let the public and media know about the faux roll call and caucus fraud.
How our party and media have shut us out. Now look at what they have all done to Hillary besides bash her, use her, degrade her and with the same DNC and people that ‘have the power’ in the Democratic party…………….
I think she has no chance to ever run again for President.
We talk about cleaning out the rats in the Democratic Party, we will do our best but we all know that this isn’t going to be any easier than what we are trying to do right now.
I am beginning to think I don’t like the Democrats, I don’t like the Republican platform. I don’t even see anyone in a third party that I think would be good as president. I do see some hope with McCain and Palin this go round, but it looks as though the PovertyPimp is doing his best to steal this election and his party is helping him by hiding ACORN.
With all the intelligent, honest people in this country (Hillary), this is the best we can do with our democracy?
I am just totally disgusted PUMAs. Sorry.
DWP: Yes I have; at least 5 times. I’ll try sending it again.
288 BillieJo It’s absolutely amaaaazing how much we think alike!! Kindred spirits, maybe?
billi jo.. maybe our electoral system doesnt work anymore??
…perhaps new forms of politics will arise which will be better suited to resolve differences?
#257 osaka puma
Yes, I am afraid to put a sign in my front yard.
Dances – I am not doing well at that site – I am beginning to think its MY COMPUTER and not even the problem that I have been trying to log on here – my code name is: Miss Confused – I went under Politics and typed in a long sentence under the part where they were attacking Palin for her saying nucclleear – and tried to put in about Berg Lawsuit, Acorn, caucus fraud and on and on – and then when I hit comment – page disappeared – so went to three others areas and had the same stupid thing happen to me again – and this is not an easy site to meet up with friends unless you know the topic you will go under – did this at least 10 times yesterday – but again thought it was this computer – same thing happening today –
Meet you in Politics and see what we can do there -only two comments that seem to have taken – both are for you know who.
ely.. when i’m in LA I always feel afraid..
#83 slyt2 on 10.04.08 at 11:32 am
Fox is having something coming up about people now saying Sarah is a communist Oh lord what next..
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I guess that’s what comes of living next door to Russia.
About Nader or other third parties.
If you want Obama to lose all 57 states and your state is not close, then a third party vote carries more information: “I’m a liberal and I don’t like Obama.”
If your state is close then McCain may need the vote to win it.
News update. Action Item
LOS ANGELES (10/1) – Today a Beverly Hills based film producer Bettina Viviano, founder of Viviano Entertainment, announced the start of a “30 Day Campaign for Truth” about presidential hopeful Barack Obama. The campaign will center on a documentary film entitled “We Will Not Be Silenced” produced by Viviano Entertainment and directed by Gigi Gaston. See
http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com.
The 30 Day Campaign for Truth will include the presentation of substantial evidence of a pattern of threats, voter intimidation, criminal violations, violation of Democratic party rules, unfair and unethical acts, and various statewide caucus irregularities that occurred across the nation in the Democratic Primaries. Similar conduct is now continuing in the general election.
The unrelentingness of Obimbo and the fact that many of us have been at this almost a full year certainly helps with the high level of disgust, but we can not let up …..The Alinsky way is to, in fact, wear opposition down, until people simply stop rejecting…and give in.
We can not let up…I have taken breaks as have others…as we all should do. However, disgust is not reason enough to let up…NOTHING IS REASON ENOUGH TO LET UP…. He is not letting up…roll over Democrats are not letting up…MSM is not letting up…
Great program on Fox news right now.
It lays out how Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, et.al. are responsible for the current economic mess.
Hi And Good Evening!
**** TWO GREAT NEW VIDEOS TO SHARE *****
Don’t Vote for Obama (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRyldlbhnYI
Don’t Vote for Obama (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmR8zC6zPwU&feature=related
285 mountainsong on 10.04.08 at 3:17 pm #284 DancesWithPumas All these prowls! When does a girl get to come out and play?
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There is a disturbing link between Barack Obama, FactCheck.org, and William Ayers. National Review reports that William Ayers and Barack Obama both served as co-chairs of the Chicago Annenburg Challenge. Obama called for an $3.5 million dollar earmark for the Annenburg Foundation that sponsors FactCheck.org. Several FactCheck articles have been viewed as promoting the Obama campaign line instead of truly acting as a fact checkers. Controlling the ‘facts’ is a hallmark of a totalitarian regime, and this is a truly unsettling connection.
Mission statement from FactCheck.org.
The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels.
The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.
Requested Anneberg Earmark from Barack Obama – Citation from Answers.BarackObama.com
Obama Requested $3.5 Million For The USC Annenberg Research Network. In 2005, Obama requested $3.5 million for the USC Annenberg Research Network on International Communication, in partnership with the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, to support the deployment of pervasive broadband for education and economic development.Funding was for the construction of a large-scale broadband wireless systems in two communities—one in South Los Angeles and the other in small-town Illinois. In each community, broadband network coverage will be provided over a minimum of about a half-square mile area, utilizing leading edge wireless technologies. In Los Angeles, this will include the five schools in USC’s immediate neighborhood, with about 8,000 K-12 students. USC also will provide wireless equipment and access to every family with a student entering the first grade of a new Science Center School, and in Illinois, a similar group of students will be selected to receive wireless equipment and access within the coverage area. The impact of these technologies on the students and their families will be tracked. [Obama Request Letter to the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education, 6/7/05]
Obama’s Challenge from the National Review
Let’s first review CAC’s [Chicago Annenburg Challenge] initial setup. In the first year, 1995, Obama headed the board, which made fiscal decisions, and Ayers co-chaired the Collaborative, which set education policy. During that first year, Obama’s formal responsibilities mandated close cooperation and coordination with the Collaborative. As board chair and president of the CAC corporation, Obama was authorized to “delegate to the Collaborative the development of collaborative projects and programs . . . to obtain assistance of the Collaborative in the development of requests for proposals . . . and to seek advice from the Collaborative regarding the programmatic aspects of grant proposals.” All this clearly involves significant consultation between the board, headed by Obama, and the Collaborative, co-chaired by Ayers.
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