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The chat room should be hoppin!
Listen live by clicking on the image above. We’ll also live-blog here for those who don’t chat!
Everyone got their popcorn?
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I can only get CNN. I hope someone will report Fox’s version tonight. This is torture watching CNN.
I am planning to light some candles and say a prayer to the Good Lord to bless Sarah with the words she needs to protect us from the evil that threatens us.
Are you guys watching O’Reilly? He was smoking with the Financial Chairman (D).
Good evening Pumas
*screech*
I’m here!
#394 BillieJo on 10.02.08 at 8:32 pm
Anyone have O’Riley’s email…. I gotta write to that guy and give him a huge handbump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So glad I have it on Tivo because that may be the last time I see a Republican on tv with b@lls!!!!
#6 Beca4Hillary
irie irie mon.
yes, everyone light a candle and say a prayer for Palin…
GO PALIN!!!!
o’REILLY@FOXNEWS.COM
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O’Reilly gave stupid, porky Barney a good spanking.
#11 rlp33
I did.
I am in for $10.
#4 Middle age female on 10.02.08 at 8:28 pm
I can only get CNN. I hope someone will report Fox’s version tonight. This is torture watching CNN.
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Forget the popcorn MiddleAF…………put your tin-foil hat on to dodge the CNN spin. Poor PUMA!
OMG, O’Reilly called him COWARD! His hands were shaking….HE told him that if he was in private industry he would be gone…..from his job.
oreilly@foxnews.com
No apostrohy
#15 Headclunker
“O’Reilly gave stupid, porky Barney a good spanking.”
Aggg
Bad image, bad image get out of my head.
I’m in for the $10 and I’ll double it if Biden cries
#372 shampoovta omg LMAO,,, that second one too funny..
It’s ok BillieJo
I have to watch it on cnn also,,,,so you will not be alone
#22 TrishfromCanada
Biden = cry
#3 LandiPuma
Completed phone bank calls for McCain to OH. Most people were not home.
I cannot stand the MSM and thrilled that their ratings are tanking. Gwen Ifill is a disgrace not to disclose her book to the Commission.
Governor Palin – be yourself and hit it out of the ballpark! The Dems are losers………………
Good luck to Gov. Sarah Palin from the PumasPac. Yes, I will pray for her.
Pumas doing a good job on not watching cnn and msnbc, fox news at the top of the ratings, cnn came in 24th! Do you think they have a clue why? PUMA POWER!
Man , I HATE that I can’t listen to the radio show …
#23 slyt2
I’ll stop
I love the Smileys.
being silly.
Murphy’s Beautiful Mind post made me cry
#239 henry
You have a great point about the LGBT community.
Did you know that this is how Gov Palin used her first veto as Gov of Alaska?
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin vetoed a bill Thursday that sought to block the state from giving health benefits to the same-sex partners of public employees, the Anchorage Daily News reported.
In the first veto of her new administration, Palin said she rejected the bill as unconstitutional despite her disagreement with a state Supreme Court order that directed the state to offer the benefits.
“Signing this bill would be in direct violation of my oath of office,” Palin said in a written statement Thursday night.
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/12/29/6
11 rlp33,
Done
#21 shampoovta
I just ate . Yuck. lol
Said my prayer (from downstairs) lit my candle and have my glass of wine. Go Sarah!!!!
Go Palin! I hope Biden shoots off yet another terrible gaffe. The media won’t be able to hide it this time.
28 prplvette85
Fox actually beat CBS two days running last week. First time a cable news show beat a network.
(((((((((((((Murphy,))))))))))))))))))
Under the ‘Recent Comment’ section the topics aren’t coming up, only the names.
Make sense?
Dances – cry baby .
24 invalidresponse on 10.02.08 at 8:39 pm It’s ok BillieJo
I have to watch it on cnn also,,,,so you will not be alone
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I would advise you to telephone your cable supplier and change your CNN selection to Fox.
I hate CNN, they are so lopsided it is sickening. I only watch Lou Dobbs, perhaps Fox should lure him away from CNN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZYqAeIdYk
Did anybody just see that commercial from planned parenthood on Bill O show now that is crossing the line.IMO
Repost from downstairs…..
ElyLos Angeles
He is running as a man with a bipartisan agenda. How will it look if 30 days before an election he comes out railing against the dems and their pork laden bill. To you and me his voting NO would be great but where is the bipartisanship in that. He knows the indy voters will swing this election, he can not appear partisan on a bill that the media and the president are selling as the end all bill, if not passed. Again he is boxed in, partisanship will only paint him further in the corner with Bush, he is trying to break from the Bush and does not want to be known as the 3rd term. This election is not so much a vote for Obama and the dems as it is a vote against Bush! I hope to HELL he and his handlers know what they are doing.
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WHERE ARE BO’s RECORDS ?
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTY1NWQ3YmIxODEzM2ViM2JiMzE2MWRjZDA0NDFlMzc=
ITEMS NOT RELEASED BY BO (posted by mimi1020):
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/02/monkeys-in-fancy-pants/#comment-175848
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#42 slyt2 on 10.02.08 at 8:45 pm
I did. It lied about Palin and the rape kit lie again. Terrible.
OK, I am lighting my candles for Sarah!
Dances,
Aquí baila tienen un tejido, está bien para tener un corazón suave de vez en cuando. Nada mejor entonces una señora resistente con un corazón suave, y no con miedo de admitirlo.
Well, we have 4hillihca and TRISH added to our list.
Thank you SNOWTIGER.
Now is there some one else who will math or raise DeadGirlsRise ans Snowtigers $35.00?
MURPHY’S WORDS:
4. Make Heidi Li’s new Denver Group viral. Send it far and wide. Post links to it everywhere you go on the intertubes. Contribute a few bucks to it if you can. Click HERE to watch the ad and get the link.”
YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE ORIGINAL POST TO GET THE “HERE” TO WORK.
PURPOSE: To get Heidi’s ad up and running. “WOULD YOU BUY A CAR FROM THIS MAN?”
Fox
DickM
“Obama peaking to soon.”
Know what I am saying lades.
#40 TerryDo on 10.02.08 at 8:45 pm
Fox not available here, would if I could
Make that MATCH instead of “math”
Don’t know how long I can watch CNN. Donna B is on the panel. It sounds like John King is sticking up for Palin. Donna B. is sticking up for Ifill and the debate.
49 shampoovta
huh? peaking to soon?
39 TexasTigress
Dances – cry baby .
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In certain instances… sure am.
Twice in Denver… and Murphy’s blog today.
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Invalid…LOLOLOL
OrdinaryWoman on 10.02.08 at 8:42 pm #239 henry
You have a great point about the LGBT community.
Did you know that this is how Gov Palin used her first veto as Gov of Alaska?
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin vetoed a bill Thursday that sought to block the state from giving health benefits to the same-sex partners of public employees, the Anchorage Daily News reported.
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/12/29/6
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Unfortunately, many Obama supporters can’t read. They are using that to say she blocked providing helath benefits to partners of gay state employees.
What happened in Alaska was the State Supreme COurt ruled that the state had to provide those benefits. A couple of republican legislators managed to get a measure passed that would overrule the State Supreme Court. The bill would have blocked the state from providing those benefits. Palin correctly noted that the Supreme Court had already ruled on this as a matter of right, and the legislature could not take away a right. Palin vetoed the bolcking of benefits, thereby allowing partner benefits to Alaska state employees.
dances + strong woman + soft heart – perfect
shampoovta on 10.02.08 at 8:50 pm Fox
DickM
“Obama peaking to soon.”
Know what I am saying lades.
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Hey, there’s men here!!!
I guess you’d call that premature inaugration?
Dick Morris advice to Palin … “come out swinging”!!
Amen Morris!
56 TexasTigress on 10.02.08 at 8:53 pm dances + strong woman + soft heart – perfect
#49 shampoovta Dick – creepy, ugly fat little man
#45 Sisterluck – planned parenthood put that out right, I am gonna try to found out about that. I’d like to know how they can start up lie like that( i put nothing past BO but come on)..
#52 Middle age female oh god i feel sorry for anyone who has to watch Donna B and Roland I need a spit bib Roland.
I’m getting soooo excited but I’m nervous!! Got my rum and coke, got my popcorn!!
Prayers for Sarah!
#57 Grizzly: BOs premature inaugration! ROFLMAO.
49 shampoovta
SHeesh shampoo, I told you I just ate.
Dances, I actually cried tonight too! Had to do with a NYC story, involving a deranged man and a tasering and then a cop suicide. Won’t get into details. Just made me cry a lot. Very sad and tragic story all around.
#53 rlp33
He said something like he is predicting obama to go down in the coming week or so and he is going to wright a column.
He sad there is a saying like,.. The highest nail gets hit.
So he said he peaked to soon and I thought about how some young guys,.. you know, PEAK to soon.
Dances 13yrs = half assed Spanish Speaking
#61 mick thanks and thanks to everyone else with your big adult drinks as I’m sitting here drinking Milk. Nobody told me BYOB.. thanks wait hubbies got Busch in the refrigerator
lol tt doesn’t know the trick……….
What a strange political year! I enjoy listening to Rush, Hannity, Newt, and all the conservative pundits.
Obama, the Dems, Soros, and the MSM are stealing this election!
Governor Palin – We have your back……………….
63 snowtiger
Sorry, sorry.
64 kat in your hat
I read that story… tragic. Tragic all the way around.
tillerylakelady here,
1 candle lite
2 said prayer
3 got glass of wine
#70 shampoovta
lol. NO your not.
Prayers for Governor Palin!!!!!!!!!!!
What time is teh debate on? 6 Pacific
Candles lit, and prayers to Mother Goddess (Mary if you prefer) for strength to Sarah in this debate and to lead this country to a place where women are active in and represented by their government which will make our country healthy and stronger for men and women citizens.
ugh…on now
Sarah, show Joe what you are made of. No more free passes for Obie. Blast um!
PUMA fingers crossed for Sarah.
Goofsmom here –
candle lit, prayers are said, and the show begins….
#73 snowtiger
*blush*
True
68 invalidresponse – damn
visualizing Sarah kicking Bidens butt….
Here we go
ughhh. I’m so nervous. Blow Biden out of the water Sarah….
GO GO GO!!!
Sarah: Fight!!!!
Don’t worry about anyone but the voters.
I hate that red carpet. That is fugly.
Oh never mind I just saw Gwin’s jacket.
http://www.foxnews.com/
Live feed from fox
C’mon , Sara , say ” At least John mccain has never been a kenyan Citizen..”
Ok her voice is annoying….. miss I am bias
#74 EWard,
AMEN!! Major prayers for Palin!! Let’s all send good vibes towards her!
Have faith PUMAs!
Middle Age Female- I’ll watch Fox but posting live .
She asked him Can I call you Joe? on the handshake!
I cannot BELIEVE Ifill is the moderator.
Grizzly: So glad you’re here..love your tone, thoughts, and irony!
Gee no bias with Ifill picking the questions. Who let that happen?
Ugh, Joe telling what BO “put out” on the rescue plan
#94 lizben08 – Laher got to come up with the questions too.
tillerylakelady here,
1 candle lite
2 said prayer
3 got glass of wine
Me, too.
What?
Shades of last bail out vote. Did he just pin this all on the Repubs?
Don’t they want this thing to pass?
biden good and in control in his first answer
eek.. Biden looks like crap (physically).
Biden — looks older than I think of him, and tired
she’s starting well… talking right to US
Biden has to read his Q cards Palin does not
country first… good.
ok , got through the first one just fine – drink
I like that she’s aligning herself with ordinary Americans
“We feel…we have..
He needs coffee. She looks great.
Biden is talking to the moderator; Palin looked straight at the camera so, as has been pointed out, she talked to us.
she sounds serious and calm, a TINY bit nervous, but in a good way.
Biden going on the attack.
can i just say I’m really nervous?
he doesn’t look right. not his usual energy.
That’s right girl!
Off to a strong start. McCain tried to prevent our current financial crisis.
nice comeback.
attacking obama.
she sounds so sincere.
Biden’s hair plugs look young
how many drinks did Biden have to calm his nerves???
I think it’s going to get ugly , she’s finding her feet
okay – getting better. Here we go!
She’s calming me down, now.
#116 DancesWithPumas
LOL
damn fox is down
good… don’t blame the victims of deception.
She talks like the lady next door… very good. even a wink….
Good so far Palin! Woot!
DID you hear his al gore sigh ??????????????????????
Did Ifill just scold her and Biden laugh??
I like her.
She needs to be that PTA mom complaining to the superintendent about pesticides in the schools. GO GO!
Did you see her pound the podium? Yeah.
Is this sexist?
My 7yo’s first response on seeing the TV, was “She’s PRETTY!”
. . .
holy smokes. she’s doing a better job than BARACK OBAMA!!
bwahahahahahaaaaahaahahaha!!
violence against women…and genocide…and putting police officers on the street
How is that crossing the aisle, Biden? Who agrees with genocide, etc? uhh
126 normapapuma – she scolded both of them for not answering the question .
that was a terrific wink
I dunno, I’m waiting for Biden to fly off the handle!
he’s steaming up…
Palin talks right to the camera.
Right to the people.
Speaking to America, keeping positive. All Biden can do is attack. Palin keeps saying the great things McCain has done.
Oh dear God…….Biden’s nose is growing
#126 normapuma-I think Ifill told them both they didn’t answer the question and she would come back to it.
Palin kicking a lil’ booty puma packers
LOVED her response re: difference between fundamentals and stock market….LOVED the fact that she called out how GREAT American workers are
biden slurs and huge bags under eyes….must have pulled an all nighter studying……… 20+ years in the sentae wasn’t enough.
Palin kickin a lil’ more booty on TAXES….LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!
dang she’s good.
94 times.
Biden doing the BO smirk
She is doing great I can tell he is getting ready to lose it. He is trying really hard to keep his cool, and if he goes off that will be so bad for him. I saw the sigh too, it’s like she is getting under his skin already….
Cameraperson stuck on Biden when it shoulda been on Palin – but Biden’s smile looked so plastic just now!
Her lines on cnn are off the scale….(very high)
Palin is doing great so far, her voice is interesting, she’s not dull to listen to
Biden’s grins are driving me crazy
Biden was told to soften his voice. I can tell.
Dances–he looks bad, she looks FINE!!!
YES!! NEVER AGAIN! AMEN SISTAH! Go points about personal responsibility!
She needs to attack Obama!! NOW!!
Cnn’s lines for Palin high? How about Biden?
Gonna get ugly
KICKING ASS BIG TIME…Palin just knocked one OUTA the ball park with her I’m gonna answer the way I want to and for the American PEOPLE!!!
LOL!
GO SARAH!!!
I’m hot for teacher
I have ben a bad little politician.
100 times
She IS taking control
sarah takes CONTROL!
pffffffffft
okay… that makes it 93 times….what about them?
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Yeah…talk to US not joeygwen
I love how Palin is taking control and answering in a way that she says what she wants to say instead of letting them lead her astray…
He is up and down
Sorry but she is bias, I wasn’t looking for it I swear but it’s right there in front of my face. She was driving her point home and she cut her off.
He’s on the attack,….she needs to SLAM HIM NOW!!
Biden looking condescending, too. My daughter just called the moderator a dirty word.
Mick–YES, she needs to hit hard over and over and over……go for the DEATH HIT GIRL!!! (figuratively of course)
Yes talking to Americans is most important. I like her:)
Biden is going to lose his patience
Biden is going to lose his patience
#154 ditto your remarks. She is kicking butt.
moderator is a fucking asshole….
I think Palin is really getting in to this now.
Good job Sarah defending small business owners, they are going to love you for that.
now trish that is worth saying twice
She’s a CHARMER!
Joe seems flabberghasted by her unique style! Ha!
LOL jenniforhillary
she’s gonna push joe over the edge and he’s gonna lose it
#170 jenniforhillary ITA with you there…..
“government lessen the tax burden on us and our families” You go Palin! Yes
Palin is smart, she’s using this debate to show America who she is, good for her
Biden talks about what they will do. Talk, talk, talk! Palin can talk about what they have done!
Good line!! Go Sarah
WOWZA…she just impaled Hussy’s medical plan….
GO SARAH GO!!!
Men like Palin better than the women.
Biden lost the softness.
He’s starting to look mean (the Biden people don’t like as much).
Palin is holding her own.
budget neutral………love it
2nd glass of wine. Go Sarah
He’s fuming… I’m giving him 5 more minutes before he rages!
joe’s getting closer to the edge!
TRISH..she is smart. She sounds smart. and she sounds real. Biden sounds like yesterday’s news in a dirty brown bag….
Sara’s a CHARMER!
. . . but wrong about health care
. . . that was a good line — “Do you really want the federal govmt in charge of health care after what we’ve seen the past month?”
jeez JOe — do you think we’re idiots? the REASON small biz owners make less than $250,000 is because they have ACCOUNTANTS.
idiot.
People we have a real fight on our hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynoL3iGgEYc
She’s looking good. This format works well for her. She looks confident.
Freudian slip by Biden!
WOOT!! GO PALIN!! BAM!! I love her!
oh what a load of bullshit….
ugh. Blood beginning to boil
Was that a boo or a laugh when he said now that’s a bridge to nowhere.. and why the hell does he get to go again!!!! He just answered a question.
moderator cuts off Palin. doesn’t cut off Biden. Obvious.
I hope the smoke starts coming outa his ears….
Oh Palin there was your chance to point out that he voted for that bridge to nowhere TWICE
Blah blah blah Biden!!
Moderator needs to go to jail now….this is crooked and wrong….
If you are watching CNN , and looking at the uncommitted voters responses at the bottom , the women love biden , what is wrong with them ???
I hope she comes back to the bridge to nowhere!
Ouch go Palin. !!
She knows how to make a point. Biden is rambling. Can’t even follow his health care talk and I have read it many times!
Palin gets to the point. Do we want government to run anything after this week?
#199 Sisterluck Yep I noticed that too… bullsh*t.
Sarah just put the knife in folks…LOVED it….double talking on BO ain’t gonna cut if for Sarah or John
So how come he gets to keep talking when the light is blinking? Can we all say “bias?”
Joe Bidzzzzzzzzzzzzz
LOL Obama slam….caught again.
ohhhh – good one !
She is pissing him off like crazy!!! LOL!!
she talks DIRECTLY to Biden!!
I think I’m in love.
xoxoxo
DM + SP 4-eva!
“Breakin’ up monopolies” – go get ‘em, Sarah!
She will give Hillary a run in 2012. A great debate to look forward to!
Yes yes yes!!! Go Palin
texastigress–women have sucked this year. Hillary’s campaign told me that they were her greatest disappointment….
“Stop the greed and corruption on Wall Street” good job Palin!
There was a good cartoon today in our paper. A bloated figure labeled Wall Street is lying on a gurney. On one side is a donkey holding paddles; on the other side is an elephant saying, “Me? Give him mouth to mouth? Eww!”
#214 LOLOL
Gwen’s pissing me off with all the extra questions and cutting her off
Bless there hearts!!
Why isn’t Gwen cutting him off???? The freakin light was blinking!!
Bless their hearts lol i’m dying laughing here, she’s so down to earth in her answers
murphy on 10.02.08 at 9:21 pm
. . . but wrong about health care
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Not so much, if we lived 1 1/2 miles west our health ins. would be $700.00 less a month. for a 1 1/2 miles. I think being able to cross state lines etc.. helps.
I grew up in a place with FREE health care (england). My family over there is buying health insurance so they can get in to see a doc. Just something to think about. I ONLY trusted Hillary w/health care.
Any woman supporting BO is my enemy….I have had it with trying to BEG you to stand up for yourself. Now, I am just asking you to get outa my way and off my chest….
NO MORE MISOGYNY….NO MORE BS…
the moderator is obviously flawed
“Doesn’t say one thing to one group and another to the next” Priceless..
Wow, did Biden gave her credit? Will he start saying I agree over and over again too?
The CNN ticker at the bottom is by state, so keep that in mind…
she makes Biden look old and Obama look dumb.
talk about a 180-degree turnaround!
Seriously though, remember last week’s debate between Obama and McCain. Obama was a WEAKLING compared to her. a flat-out loser.
“YOU Americans” !!?!?? wtf Joe?
Ifill gives Palin follow-up questions because Ifill is too dense to understand the answers. So she needs clarification. Remember, Ifill is a bot.
“…even putting a campaign aside”
slammmmmmmmmmm
Biden and Obama voted for bridge to nowhere. Also, article out today says that it is untrue that most small businesses make less that $250,000–also, the Obama-Biden tax plan stating that 95% of americans won’t get taxed is a plain lie.
It’s Ohio voters thatswhattimeitis
Yes…Democrats were pushing BAD loans with Black Caucus and John McCain tried to point out fiasco and Barney Frank called it a ‘public lynching’ because Rains (who used to run freddi/fanni and is NOW BO’s financial advisor and made 90 million in 6 years as director of freddi/fanni is BLACK)…..
BS needs to stop NOW….NOW
I hate to disagree but her inexperience is showing. . . on a national stage that is. She isn’t answering the questions and is very very nervous.
Yep, BO is as glass half empty all right. Biden got one point right:0
trish — yep, down-to-earth but SMART.
did he just say he disagreed w/ Obama?
why’s Joe talking to Gwen instead of US, or even Palin?
BIDEN IS LYING LIKE A SACK OF SHIT RIGHT NOW…PALIN NEEDS TO KILL HIM NOW
Biden sounds tired. Maybe he’s bored.
Biden looks so washington and she looks so fresh
Does he have false teeth?
I wrote a check for The Denver Group tonight, $100. to go out tomorrow. Any matchers?
Biden. “I’m with stupid”
I can handle nerves….just have the right words!!!
Biden looks like the garbage he is
The whole election depends on her performance tonight.
Doesn’t seem quite right. No one vettes the self-ordained messiah.
Freddie & Fannie … she needs to slam him and the dems with this BIG TIME!!
Do the debate questions seem to be coming from the ASSUMPTION that the Republican platform is WRONG WRONG WRONG?
Biden just nodded. Apparently he agrees with her.
BO didn’t answer 80 percent of the questions posed to him, just had diarrahea of the mouth…
Sarah’s answering more than him and her answers are smart and real
Women like Biden better than the men.
I believe that her answers being direct to the question is intentional. She is taking control and talking about what she wants to talk about.
My husband thinks Biden’s smiles are showing that he is being respectful to Palin, and that he does like her. What do you all think?
She won’t slam…she doesn’t need to…Why did BO choose him ?
mick–I agree…she MISSED a big opportunity and I am sad….
Subprime fiasco is ALL BO and the DEMs……she needs to drive this point HOME HARD
I sense bias…not as balanced…
I like the way she’s not letting Ifill make her talk to any specific topic. She instead says I want to go back to… Good tactic to not have Biden’s words sitting out there as fact. When she talks about energy she’s definitely showing her passion & expertise. Love the way she is tooting her own horn as to what she has done in Alaska
#254….Hey..I woould guess that Biden does like Palin..Isn’t he friends with McCain too ?
They are showing OHIO voters around the country??? I thought they were doing it by state and I thought I was seeing Ohio bc I live in Ohio?
Everyone is seeing Ohio?
I don’t think that Biden knows quite how to handle her.
Palin doing Okay, but not as well, on the climate change topic; however that will not hurt her “base” whatsoever…
I toldya Sarah would kick BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Sarah!
Joe sounds stupid.
254 Rancho
You mean his baring his teeth?
Phoney. Trying to be gracious…comes off as condescension…. as in, you poor dear.
Ifill impartial? I know I am looking for trouble, because I can’t believe they allowed her to still be moderator. Is the cutting Palin off, asking Palin for follow-up and leaving Biden alone. If this is to make her look worse, it’s not working.
260 thatswhattimeitis – yes , it’s a small group of supposedly undecideds in Ohio ..
murphy on 10.02.08 at 9:21 pm
. . . but wrong about health care
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National Health care not the solution (I ought to know, having lived i Canada for 30 years!). It got so bad that citizens & physicians banned together to allow privatization to come back b/c the gvt couldn’t foot the bill nor provide services on time & closed 9 hospitals in Montreal alone a couple years back!
Two members of my family died becasue services were not provided (their referrals had a waiting time of 6 months-one with throat cancer & the other liver cancer) both could have been cured.
He hates coal ?
Rancho, most of his smiles have look forced, to me…
Coal? did he say coal? hmmmm coal? I thought Biden is against coal, clean or dirty. Guess he got spanked my bo
Senator Obiden lol
I meant by bo not MY bo
IT IS NOT ALL MAN MADE YOU IDIOT!! YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT IT IS ALL MAN MADE!
Sorry for the yelling!
“raping” uh oh…no no no no….joebaby
Fuck , she just said nukular .
#204 Teigress-Women are more liberal , Dems. I’m more impressed again by Sarah-not Biden.
Ifill doesn’t get it that these follow-up questions let Palin shine. And Biden has to stand there smiling.
Wow, she actually cut Biden off.
why can I post??
You know, some of Biden’s answers I have liked, too bad it’s not a Biden/Palin ticket, lol…
Same sex marriage – let’s see what happens now.
He’s been pushing clean coal for 24 YEARS???? Very effective senator…not.
She will not be bullied! She just comes right back at you!
Drill, baby, drill.
Not saying I agree, but DAMN I love her unwillingness to be intimidated.
Did she just say, Senator O’Biden?? good one.
He’s still talking to “Gwen”
OH, it’s PARDON ME when it’s Biden she’s interrupting??
Now I see that posted…Whew!!! I said before this is the same shit from the moderator as they did with Hillary..the first question
Biden on clean coal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rXyTRT-NZg
Palin is in her element. Glad they did not start with foreign affairs first.
ITS NUCLEAR DAMN IT !!!!!!!!!
Sorry….not a choice Palin
I do believe McCain said leave it to the states!!
Personally I think the word “tolerance” connotates “putting up with,” not a great choice of words imo…
Bye bye sarah..seeya so long ciao
what the hell is wrong with teh freakin’ word “marriage”?
“Tolerance” versus “Acceptance”.
Did you hear her correct him… “not drill, drill, drill”… the chant is “drill baby drill”!!! She can hold her own.. she will answer these questions her way.
He did say it is left to the states.
Didnt he just say yes? now no?
Dances -He said civil unions- same as Sara
Yes good responses on Iraq.
#293 Dances-he said he supports benefits not marriage.
#290 Dances-That’s just her religion, but she’s tolerant and respectful-Give her a chance! Joe’s Catholic besides.
Again, the moderator is showing her bias by giving Palin the first question…What Bullshit!!
she did good on gay issue…reallly good
Eye-raq I hate that
SHE NEEDS TO HIT HIM HARD ON THIS WAR STUFF…
you got to admit the moderator let her escape from the gay issues
Great response about the war!! Bam!
Am I going to owe Gwen Ifill an apology?
bo said immediate withdrawal…now he says whenever the general says it is good to leave…
HIT HIM SARAH
Can we switch and run Sarah for POTUS and John for VP?
Biden said no to gay marriage? I can’t believe BO & Biden agree with Palin not to change the constitution on marriage.
Did I miss something these last couple of months?????
Yes she just bitch slapped joey.
DWP, it’s just her accent.
Why would we believe the flipflop king that he will really end the war.
Remember Sarah has to appeal to her base in her answers.
Oh, good one. “How can you defend him now?”
You can’t expect an evangelical Christian to support gay marriage.
You should have had a dem do so. You didnt.
wtf!!
He just said he doesnt support gay marriage?
He can take a long walk off a short pier!
why would I vote for a Dem who doesnt support gay marriage??
screw them.
I think Palin is WRONG about gay marriage, but I love that she doesnt try to cover it up — she tells it straight and is willing to take the flack!
she is UNBELIEVABLE.
BO and Biden have always been against gay marriage.
Palin…bring up the freddie and fannie ties to obama….
She’s commin out all cage fighter now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She is proving that the best man for the job is really a Wo-man!!!
Wow-SHE’S getting mad.
Classy response re: biden’s son
mick: soft Fargo
Don’t you think Palin’s way of speaking is really easy to listen to?
shampoovta – yes you are.
McCain/Palin didn’t object to Ifle because they know her to be professional.
Any dem who doesnt support gay marriage is a PANDERER!
Don;t tell me this woman is not qualified to be Vice President. She is more specific than barack Obama,the candidate for President….
Biden / Obama = not very progressive on gay marriage, wake up, Democrats!
Genevieve on 10.02.08 at 9:43 pm Biden said no to gay marriage?
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Bo has always been against gay marriage, I dont know about Biden
snowtiger:
Is Biden an evangelical Christian ???
Wasn’t it great when she reminded everyone of what Biden had said against BO previously?
#314 murphy
Ya I have family that is gay so it is a big issue with my family.
The real Sarah is stepping up!
Sarah is kicking aSS! You go girl!
mountain–you got that right baby!
Right, and let’s face it NO conservative will ever be for gay marriage. Gay unions, yes, but not marriage.
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#311 BigCatLover on 10.02.08 at 9:44 pm
Remember Sarah has to appeal to her base in her answers.
NOP bingo!
nope — she didnt say civil unions. she’s wrong wrong wrong on LGBT.
Problem is — Joe’s not much better.
I’ve tried to post this about 50 times!
They basically have the same position regarding gay marriage… she’s just trying to be a bit cautious in her words to appeal to the conservatives.
She did a lot for gays rights in Alaska… right from the start… I even heard she has gay friends.
#321 KarenWI-yes. I stop reading the blog when she is talking. With Biden, not so much. Blah, blah, blah in the ear. That pattern is probably why BO likes him. They talk the same.
WHat we need to go build schools in Pakistan now? WTF? Biden and BHO are loosers..
she just said Nukular!!
omg !!!
Blogger Boiz now have their TAG LINE. Mark my words.
His red temples are growing larger…….
Her best friend is gay..
Biden is Catholic.
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#327 Genevieve on 10.02.08 at 9:46 pm snowtiger:
Is Biden an evangelical Christian ???
Biden is Catholic
Yes!Yes! Yes! I am in love with Sarah.
Sarah — say it slowly now:
NEW-CLEE-ER
I don’t think it’s right… or fair… to criticize her accent. Who criticized Kennedy’s Boston accent? If all they can criticize is her accent that’s not much of a real argument.
Gay unions are “marriages”. Game of semantics
murphy–YES. and our dear Hillary must join that club.
marriage is a right and to deny it based on sexual orientation is unconstitutional is easy SC case….or should be
I can’t stand that pompous, alcoholic, overbearing male-priveledged, butt-faced Biden!!!!! WTF does he know about middle class?
And love is love. Why equal rights but not equal marriage? They are both wrong on that.
My husband likes her.
#239 murphy
I agree Murphy she is coming off as intelligent, he quick responses to his statements are impressive
#334 murphy
Joe is worse. The dems are supposed to be pro gay rights. not the repubs.
Her accent is not as bad as John Edward’s . OOh she just said WOMEN’s rights!
YESSSSSSSSS….she is talking to ME right now….calling BO dangerous and DUMB!!!
LOVE THIS WOMAN!!
I would vote for Palin for President before Barack.
Sure do miss Hillary Clinton though!
I am holding my breath till they get through the foreign policy part.
I think nukular may be part of her accent.
y’all – that’s okay, I can’t say alumni!
Biden is Catholic
After 8 years of presidentiable gwbush, republicans think nu-cu-la is the correct pronunciation.
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obama did say he would sit down
NOP #324 — yup.
The person Sarah is beating tonight is BARACK OBAMA!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
McCain’s no war mongerer. just doesnt stick.
Yes she has been mispronouncing nuclear for weeks now…also SNL skits will have fun w/that one!
Is Hillary for gay marriage? I did not think she was, am I wrong?
The BISHOPs have come out against Biden for this anti-catholic statements. They will excommunicate him.
OMG…she’s GOOOOOOOD! talking foreign policy with Iran.
Ahhh…I’m impressed!
I guess “nucular” is going to be added to the dictionary. First Bush and now Palin . . . every kid will adopt this pronunciation. I guess this is what they mean by language changing.
I would vote for her before ANY of the men in the race.
Hillary supports equal rights for gays, I know that much…
Landi–she has MANY gay friends and she is PRO GAY in the sense that she made sure that All Alaskan govt. workers get partner benefits includ. GAY and Lesbians
Love my non- gay , Uber liberal Puma friends defending my right to be as married and miserable as the rest of you ! Cheers !
Is Isill spending more time on foreign affairs, hoping to trip her up? So far Palin is holding her own.
#309 mick: I have been really stunned at the east coast intolerance of west coast accents this election season. Are they really so stupid they don’t know there are regional differences in speech and those differences do not reflect intelligence or lack of intelligence?
murphy on 10.02.08 at 9:49 pm Sarah — say it slowly now:
NEW-CLEE-ER
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Now now…..be nice………
I’ll be good here…….short and sweet
I can count on ne hand how many people in this country who DON’T have a gay friend……(weather they know it or not)…enough said
He speaks to Gwen…….
hills..but not gay marriage…
Hillary says it’s a state issue, but would oppose a federal ban in the form of an amendment.
I’m surprised Ifill didnt follow up on it.
No gay marriage, but civil unions and legal contracts. These would be according to the states. The Democrats have done precious little up to now to promote gay rights, other than talk about them. If you think about it, the Democrats have done precious little about women’s rights and civil rights, other than talk about them. As you are finding out, talk is cheap.
(Even without a ‘funny’ accent)
Biden’s RED in the face..Chill man!
Hillary is NOT for gay marriage. No one running for president in the USA can say that they are ‘coz they just won’t get elected!
lol TexTigger
Why is Biden speaking about the Bush Admin. Is Bush running ?
As a jew, I HATE it when BO gets to say he is PRO JEW. His best friend is Farrakhan and he is a ENEMY to the jews on the same level as Hitler.
BO would LOVE to go Palestine and get rid of Israel–and this is one of the main reasons Traitor idiot Jimmy Carter supports BO…
“THIS ADMINISTRATION” is not running Joe Biden!
he;s boring.
she’s fresh. super FRESH.
and SASSY!
From a gay perspective~~~ Sarah is not only intelligent and spohisticated and classy~~~She’s flat out drop-dead goregeous and HOT!!!!
Constantly looking backward….
LOL
What was that?
Did steam escape?
LOL
Hey #361 Michele #47. Hillary was not for marriage for gay couples..but, supported federal support for gay couples.and domestic partnerships
338 murphy on 10.02.08 at 9:47 pm
she just said Nukular!!
omg !!!
Blogger Boiz now have their TAG LINE. Mark my words.
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Just because you have an accent when you pronounce a word does not mean you do not know what the word means or how you use that word.
She has done a great job.
she;s an effing DYNAMO!
I mean DYNAMA!
Christine–GOOD point….true, sad, and must be dealt with…
NO MORE FRIGGIN LIP SERVICE PEOPLE!!!
Am I drunk or does he sound like the teacher on Charlie Brown ” Waa wa wa waawa ” ???
Good one with the finger pointing backwards!
How can the pundits say she has failed in her debate??
She’s good!!!
No she didunt! LOL!
oh oh… standard line of trying to link Bush with McCain….
WOO HOO. Palin’s Kick’in ASS!
#368 TexasTigress
I never understood why gays want to be married, after all marriage is the chief cause of divorce.
Snowtiger=the eternal bachelor.
I like her accent.
Stupid moderator didn’t allow her to rebut the statement that McCain was like Bush… doggone it!
what’s with this stupid graph on CNN? Got to be rigged….
Sarah is SMOKING GOOD
I like the way she brings a topic back to her strength.
She is a tough cookie…hellava lot more v than Obama’s
b…lls…..true…don’t you think?.
lol too much looking backwards, I love it!
Why? What’s happening with the graph?
another #61 slam!!!
His red temples are now 4 inches high!
CNN can eat shit and die
384 mountainsong
From a hetero pov as well. (we have so much in common mountain)
391 TexasTigress
Yes, and yes.
Biden is starting to pontificate….
And she says she WILL support Israel!! That counts for alot. I really don’t believe Obama will support that commitment.
I hope PUMA can change it’s focus to not only defeating O, but supporting Sarah and her running mate.
I can’t believe how well she’s doing on foreign policy.
Snow – civil unions- to me- are like sitting on the back of the bus , and I refuse .
LOL
But 13 years into a relationship and I’m thinking I would like to have SOME kind of benefit !!!!
Joe keeps losing me in his longer answers.
LOL Snow
Now why did Biden say “Gwen”? He’s supposed to talk to the audience or Sarah not the moderator.
And what’s with him repeating his sentences in this segment – he thinks we didn’t hear him the first time or what?
Think Biden is close to having a stroke? His temples are really bulging … more and more…
My sons have given me a bad time for years because i say ‘warsh’ for wash’. So I will give Sarah the nukular
I agree about not focusing on her accent. I live in WA. So many people in other parts of the country say “Warshington.” There isn’t an “r” in Washington.
Did he just say we need more troops?
what would you call that?
I own a gay bar and I did not hear any of the pres candidates this year promote GAY MARRIAGE! I have respect for everyone gay, straight, purple ,green or blue!
There is that SMIRK again…….
307 Genevieve on 10.02.08 at 9:43 pm
Biden said no to gay marriage? I can’t believe BO & Biden agree with Palin not to change the constitution on marriage.
Did I miss something these last couple of months?????
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One of Obama’s spiritual advisors in Chicago is State Senator/Reverend James Meeks. He is the most outrageous vicious anti-gay person in the state. Check out James Meeks and Halloween. It is disgusting.
#364 mpdamon: Why do you east coast people criticize peoples accents? Did it ever occur to you we west coast people do not like hearing some east coast accents but we don’t harp on it and are intelligent enough to listen to the content of a persons speech and not nit pick accents? I am sorry but who decided the east coast pronunciation is Gods choice?
I love this woman! He is breathing hard, he is loosing BIG time!
#415 TexasTigress
Tex, my idea of marriage is like celibacy. I admire those that can do it. But thats about it.
ROfl.
Turn off CNN the graph is distracting you, go to PBS or CSpan.
yeah, don’t be so anal about how “nuclear” is pronounced….
Biden is wondering…what did I get myself into. He doesn’t believe his own BS.
joe’s losing
#4204hill-I wasn’t talking about you, by the way, I had been trying to post and it just happened to hit right after yours.
It is ok.. I love my husband.. he is from Maryland, he says wharter instead of WATER!!!
Oh..you’re right his temples ARE throbbing!..and he’s growing horns.lol
And then there is the where ya at New Awlins accent…ha…I like her difference…I like the difference in accents in regions of our country….
Joe Biden is a blow hard….tedious and boring…
When gay marriages were legalized in MA the news commentators were parked in P-town photographing newly-married couples. After a couple of weeks they lost interest . . . the couples looked too “ordinary”.
No shock value. Besides MA is now making money when couples marry and unfortunately when some divorce.
Joe is seriously boring me. And why does he refer to himself in 3rd person……Joe Biden would not do that blah blah. haha.
Can Ifill stick to questions and not try to build Biden up first? Even Ifill knows he needs help tonight. She sees her book sales falling.
426 Seattlegirl,
You are right, I am puertorican and people are always making fun of my accent, I hate it!
I think Biden is getting mad, I see smoke coming from his ears.
Missed the whole first part…nonpolitical pain in the butt hubby…think we can get em to ban straight marriage???
“I am sorry but who decided the east coast pronunciation is Gods choice?”
Oh good grief… now I’m going to hear god’s voice in a Brooklyn or Boston accent… vs Angelina Jolie’s accent.
She really is a breath of fresh air!
She’s attacking him on straight talk…Picking his flaws..
Why does he get so much time and she doesn’t????
nerves are gone… she is kicking his butt!!!!
She’s attacking with a smile.
she is setting him up here for the bridge …watch
You go Girl…
You were for it before you were against it and it’s OK just be upfront about….Dejavu
Seattlegirl on 10.02.08 at 10:01 pm #364 mpdamon: Why do you east coast people criticize peoples accents? Did it ever occur to you we west coast people do not like hearing some east coast accents but we don’t harp on it and are intelligent enough to listen to the content of a persons speech and not nit pick accents? I am sorry but who decided the east coast pronunciation is Gods choice?
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Hey Hey , east coaster here……….no harping from me!
She really “got” Biden on his war vote and changing positions!
She’s got him irritated – making him act agitated. Good!That’s when he is not at his best. He can’t stand that she isn’t agreeing with him – especially in foreign affairs where he is supposed to be the expert. I love the way she keeps reminding him over and over how he has supported McCain in the past — up until he was tapped for VP
Sarah has many things that Joe doesn’t, not the least of which is Command Presence!!!!
Well, let’s just say mispronouncing it “nucular” won’t hurt her base, Bush could never stop doing it no matter the ridicule…I can almost hear Tina Fey already, though!
she gave him the bait…about first for something then against
Palin is too funny! She keeps grinning while Joe is going on and on, blah, blah, blah…she looks like the spider waiting on that fly!
She’s right we do want straight talk and sick of Washington. This could be enough to win this.
#426
I don’t think that way! Like I said, I can’t say alumni!
And, I was up your way (Friday Harbor) a couple of years back. Now, you talk about a bunch of folks asking me to “just say something; just talk to me!”
I had a ball!
437 mpdamon
Defining marriage as between 1 man – 1 woman is on the California ballot this year.
Vote No on 8.
She got him…..
Way to slide that in on a fast moving thread
Palin missed talking about bozo’s stand on Israel. He said one thing on Israel and the next day supported Palestinians……..typical both ways Bozo.
She has executive presence…wild..
oh..the heart beat away question
This woman is significant….and she is a hellava lot more focused than stupid ass Barack…and he isruning for President….
Too bad she doesn’t have more debates, her medium. Better than McCain or Barack.
Too McCain doesnt have half her spunk!
blah blah blah blah blah blah….
What? Joe would carry out Obama’s policies if he became prez?
Well, I have been in and out but I think she is kicking butt
I will catch up w/ all the posts later.
She is kicking booty….just did a quick search and 90percent of polls show her winning…
GO SARAH GO!!
SENATOR, YOU HAVE QUITE A RECORD
ARE U EFFING KIDDING ME??
A HEARTBEAT AWAY?
TAKE A LONG WALK OFF A SHORT PIER GWENN.
SHE HAD TO PUT HER FOOT IN IT.
IFILL WAS OKAY UP TILL NOW.
#415 – TT,
I respect your right to be miserable with the rest of us!!!
Wow, Sarah is doing great tonight – using Biden’s own words against him!!! YAY!
Glad Gwen made Biden go first. Sarah gets to hear his response!
Joe is rambling
am I wrong or when “Gwen” keeps reminding us that Joe Biden had supported an issue in the past… I am thinking that does not help him. Maybe Gwen has changed her vote!!!
BECAUSE Joe has no policies….no reality of what he would do if he was to become……..
Yes, Californians… VOTE NO ON 8
TO PERSERVE GAY MARRIAGE IN CA!
or at least not losing
caught that did ya?
I read the thing that Anglachel person said on her blog about Riverdaughter and I couldn’t follow her argument. She seems to be saying Riverdaughter is r@cist because she posted a picture of someone who was an economic adviser to Obama and has been indicted and is black. I don’t remember any such picture. Unfortunately she does not give a URL for whatever she says was offensive. Lack of proof is a common feature of all these recent r@cism accusations.
Pictures of Obama’s economic advisers from Frannie Mae and Countryside are all over the blogosphere. Apparently it is now r@cist to print photos of the AA ones.
Can we safely say this is a new talking point to distract from The One’s lack of experience, as in the recent ABC poll that Stephanopoulos pointed out that shows more than 50% now think he is experienced enough?
The first time someone here linked to the Anglachel website, I saw the b-word in her masthead and wondered why anyone bothered to link there. I still wonder.
#426 Seattle
Mispronounce it however you wish. Bush has been mispronouncing it for years. Kind of reminds me of Harding and his “return to normalcy”. And by the way, mispronounciation has nothing to do with regional accents which were not the subject but appear to be your issue.
Sorry Dances, I don’t live in CA. Good luck on the voting though.
Good good answer…
I like the cut of her jib…
refreshing presentation.
Biden agrees with Obama . . . what does Obama believe? It’s always changing!
Only person I’m scared of is BO and anyone supporting him….
I think these “uncommitted voters” that are doing the graph are not all uncommitted. They just say that so they can make their candidate look better.
The independent graph is just soaring when Palin speaks
The independent graph is just soaring when Palin speaks
mountainsong, I like that: command presence.
very true.
dang — if she werent so wrong about LGBT I’s ask her to marry me
Joe Biden spends a lot of time on Home Depot???
I need to know how to text…fox want’s to know who is winning…
The Dem ticket stinks in the first place. However, it is upside down. So odd that Biden is 2nd in command behind the least experienced Presidential candidate in history. Again, so stupid that bots attack Palin’s experience. Hellooooooo, your candidate has less than her!
Fox wants viewers to vote on who won the debate via text. Text #36288 “B” for Palin
Her answer is so much better. did not pander.
trish, you can say that again.
Pointing backward again! Go Palin!
SHE got him!
she smokes him.
she SMOKES him!
Wish Palin had brought up Biden’s history with MBNA and authoring of the very consumer-unfriendly bankruptcy bill.
Joe’s neighborhood… can’t see him at Home Depot or Walmart…
486 Middle age female -agreed
if 50 percent of americans think Bo is experienced enough to be potus, than 50 percent of americans are seriously fucked in the head…
oh Dog Gone It!!!!!
#450 hillfan4mccain: Ok I may be getting overly sensitive to accent conversations but I am really getting sick of it. CNN actually had an entire segment mocking Sarah’s west coast accent a couple weeks ago and called it news. Do people make fun of how southerners talk? Boston people? Black people? Asian accents? Well when did it get OK to mock west coast people?
Ok now I am finished with this topic for tonight.
lol the independent graph flatlines for Biden
lol say it ain’t so Joe, dayem she’s good
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check em out…
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“Say it ain’t so Joe”. Can’t believe she just said that. LOL
OMG I’m a teacher- SHOUT!
Well , Sheeeit!!!! I guess if I don’t want Obama/Biden, but DO want Sarah~~~Argggh, I’m gonna have to vote for McCain!!~!!! Noone ever said life was gonna be fair!!!
Say it isn’t so, Joe…she is using her feminine self very well here with him.
Murphy
Congrads on your new found …lets say interest……lol
Did you hear about her brother’s 3rd graders getting xtra credit for watching!!! Yeah! She has humour!
her kids are in public school??
are you kidding me?
Say it ain’t so Joe!
So far best line of the night!
I like her, don’t agree with all her views but she’s very likeable and down to earth.
I think she’s charming Biden!
Eeww, I see lust in his smile.
Haha, I would love to know where they got these Ohio voters from!!
They are so biased against Palin.
That being said, if she knew that they were going to be running this Ohio ticker at the bottom (and I don’t know if she did), she should try to focus some of her answers on things Ohioans would find positive.
Oh, and as I finished writing this comment, she starts! Keep it up, Sarah!!
Good evening lovely PUMAs. Well, Sarah is holding her own. I just wish she would distance herself from the Bush administration. Whoops, she just did it –said look forward and stop focusing upon the Bush administration. I think she is getting more confident as time goes on.
HOW DO YOU TEXT???
you put in the # and then how do you do A or B? It is the same on the phone (#2) ????
Sorry, I am showing my age. I like to “just talk”.
Ahhhh , Sara , es por tu suspidar ….
Motice Joe is calling Carpathia barrack not senator
I like that Sarah said McCain never asked her to check her views at the door – Obama has to tell Biden to keep quiet on the campaign trail
Whoo-hoo. Am also texting a friend who had planned on voting for BO. She just sent me a text…Palin has won her over. NObama!!!!
Lame attempt at joke too…cause no one got it.
WEowie…she’s good…very good.
Slams with a smile and humor.
He slams McCain…Palin slams Joe and O
I feel sorry for Biden. He was a decent man with a decent career in the Senate, now he’s Obama’s stooge.
Did Biden just say Barack needs him to help him govern? No kidding!
Palin is a very charming and lovely person. I like her.
And, Biden has a crush on her. He is turning to mush. She is the winner of this debate, even if Mercuary is still retrogade.
Sarah shines. Joe blows.
She’s cool. Biden threw it all away for Obobo.
502 jenniforhillary Got that right, girlfriend!!!
I think she won the crowd and the debate!
He’s old school, experienced, but I want someone with a fresh outlook on America.
What was with Biden’s grimace-did you see that???
he’s so blah-blah-blah
senatorial.
ugh.
now she’s getting CONSTITUTIONAL!
nice goin Gal.
Excuse me but Dems voted to not fund money for NCLB.
nativegirl on 10.02.08 at 10:12 pm Joe’s neighborhood… can’t see him at Home Depot or Walmart…
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Would that be the neighborhood that no one speaks English….
467 hillfan4mccain on 10.02.08 at 10:08 pm
Too McCain doesnt have half her spunk!
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I think McCain has her spunk, they just have different styles, after all remember he voted against Bush and forwarded the surge, which finally came about.
Oh, bad answer sarah.
Bozo/Biden is just like Bush/Cheney! A dummy as Pres and the leader of the ticket as #2! hahaha.
528 Headclunker
Joe’s one great line:
VP Dick Cheney has been the most dangerous VP in American history.
this is something he knows a hell of a lot about and it shows.
If I get up in the morning and hear that Biden won this debate I am sooooooo going back to bed.
I might not like some of her views …but she has really done well here tonight
Sarah Palin to Katie Couric: “Bite me!”
shampoovta on 10.02.08 at 10:17 pm
Excuuuuuse me-they didn’t even read it!
she didnt understand the question.
what’s your achilles heel Gov. Palin?
#534 hillfan4mccain
That would be main street!!
Good answer, connects with Americans. McCain has the experience covered.
No matter how well Palin does tonight, we know how the msm will spin it, how impartial Ifill was, how easy she was on Palin, and how tough she was on Biden.
#482 mpdamon: Who is in charge of deciding correct pronunciation? Where does their power come from? And does a persons accent reflect their intelligence? Do southerners pronounce things wrong? Do black people pronounce things wrong? When a person has an Asian accent do they pronounce things wrong? What about Boston do people in Boston pronounce things wrong? In my mind they have accents. Or alternatively from my point of view everyone who does not talk like they are from Seattle pronounces things wrong because I don’t believe in the east coast God of pronunciation.
She did well…Didn’t hurt him. I really like her and I think many will take a second look at her.
TerryDo on 10.02.08 at 10:17 pm 467 hillfan4mccain on 10.02.08 at 10:08 pm
Too McCain doesnt have half her spunk!
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I think McCain has her spunk, they just have different styles, after all remember he voted against Bush and forwarded the surge, which finally came about.
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I meant on stage……he has been quite boring lately
FOX TEXT 36288 B for Palin…
BigCatLover on 10.02.08 at 10:17 WROTE:
Oh, bad answer sarah.
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What are you refering to?
I missed a little.
He isn’t going to ‘change’. WOW……so what is change???
she understood it , but disregarded it ….:)
Does anyone now think that she played dumb with her two previous television interviews?
She is having the last laugh…LOL, LOL, LOL
As a Southerner, I think all y’all sound funny. nukular, nukular – sounds ok to me..
Biden says he has not & will not change- Isn’t his campain about CHANGE???
Change Washington??
Bad response!
Biden…sexism is tough isn’t it?
Biden just said he was not going to change. Huh? Said he has been the same for 35 yrs.
#527 Flasunshiner
From a guys pov, anytime you get a good looking charming woman with intelligence and style, your toast. Sooner or later the hormones have an effect. Imagine ho jealous Joe is. McCain spends time with Palin, he spends time with “O’.
She’s promoting herself well which is wonderful, I find women don’t tend to push their accomplishments like men do. I can handle her for the next 4 years.
He hasn’t changed in 35 years…isnt Obama all about change??
I am undecided. I think Sara is holding her own but she has missed some crucial moments on Fannie and Freddie and the economy. Joe is a talker and he has the story line going each time. He is boring but he has answered more questions.
#559…snowtiger…you crack me up.
#554 TerryDo
She did lower expectations
#543 Murphy. She did understand. She decided that she was not going to answer that.
Okay – who bet on Biden crying – you owe money.
#563 CTKEY
Biden has a good record — no doubt. It’s Obama who doesnt.
God love Biden — he is sincere.
did Biden fake cry?
Genevieve on 10.02.08 at 10:21 pm Biden says he has not & will not change- Isn’t his campain about CHANGE???
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I thought you were supposed to change plugs every 12,000 miles?
OH my God
did he just tear?
oh…Biden…don’t go there against McCain. You haven’t done shit in 35 year either.
good points by Joe here.
There he goes again RED in the face!
#555 redstateguy-lol
Geezus, Joe~~~ Les than a year ago you said BO isn’t ready to lead. And now you are just his ‘Yes, Man’. How frickin pathetic!!!!
#566 Middle age female
ok ok i owe 20$ his voice cracked too!
it wasnt fake and it wasnt planned.
just like it wasnt fake and it wasnt planned when Hillary did it in NH.
let’s not go there.
No he isn’t Murphy….He is as full of shit as the rest of them….Mr 9 million dollars earned and he knows how it is ..really? how much money to charity? 3000 dollars.
He is part of the problem.
Oh dear, did he just cry?
Why can HE respond to HER but SHE can’t respond to HIM???????? BIASED MODERATOR…. sorry for shouting… I am SO ANGRY
Biden has this much in common with Obama. He feels all he has to do it say it and that makes it so. It doesn’t fly with those of us who know better.
#547 Seattle
No one has said that there is only one way of speaking,
and certainally the East Coast has it’s own regional accent so it can hardly be said to be “God ordained”.
Let’s agree to drop the subject.
The question about vice presidential powers. She said the constitution gave the position alot of flexdibility. After Cheney that answer will scare people. took 15 times to post this.
shampoovta on 10.02.08 at 10:23 pm
yes he did. I saw it too!
I hate that Joe is on Obama’s team – he’s better than that . Damn
Sorry, Murphy I disagree Biden is so full of bullshit …I just can’t stand him… If he really has any intregrity at all he would not have accepted the VP from BO
569 Sisterluck
No, Joe didnt fake it.
Heavens forbid that we should have another vp like Cheney . . . or another president as stupid as Bush.
Pay that girl!
559 snowtiger LMAO You crack me up!!!
So what exactly did Biden do across the aisle?? He says he did over the years… WHEN? WHAT?
554 TerryDo
I actually had that same thought. It does make one wonder how she did so badly with Katie C and appeared to be so clueless. It can’t just be due to her prep work.
#583 mpdamon : OK
She is good.
He, not 15 minutes ago, acknowledged that he questioned #61 motives on his vote against sending money to Irag for the soldiers… so, his memory is short.
Joe was faking the tear.
alright caspercat and NOP — i think you’re each smarter than him put together. I bow to your superior wisdom.
dang! she’s confident!
can she be president now?
I couldn’t watch the first half hour, listened from thr hallway. I am so proud of Sarah. Taking the media on!
“If he really has any intregrity at all he would not have accepted the VP from BO”
Candidates weren’t really lining up to do this! Maybe the Dem. party did a lot of arm twisting?
A meeting Biden will never forget.
she’s a treasure.
OH REALLY??? What did you do across the aisle?
Election will be close . . . but don’t worry, Obama will lose the election and yet get the Presidency. I am completely confident that the corruption is this election will make 2000 look like child’s play.
Zinger to Michelle Obama! Always been proud to be American! Yeah!!!
joe biden is a good man. he has done a lot of good in his time in the Senate. not perfect, but good. i hope when this is over he still has a career. not sure if palin did as good as we want to think she did, but she wasn’t a disaster so that in and of itself is probably a good sign.
Biden is a faker. Remember Anita Hill….remember Biden. I rank him right up there with the average sexist pig-cum-politician-cum-pandering-BOT
She is a Supa Staw!!!
SARAH does not have the hard face that Biden does tonight.
Proud to be an American. She digs in such a sweet way:)
Great closing.
next p559 snowtiger
Let’s keep our fingers crossed then, that we can relieve Biden of his misery sloging along with Barry and vote for anyone but him.
but I still can’t hate him.
he’s polite, calm, and genuine — at least in his bearing.
… I like talking directly to the american people…without the filters of MSM, who tell you what was said…
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jenniforhillary… that’s all he represents to me: thomas/hill hearings.
Joe says that there is a need for change….but again he said that after 35 years, he can’t change.
GO SARAH…….you win.
Nice to hear a debate where the participants state their positions and don’t interrupt . . . where participants don’t act like petulant children.
If the voting shows Biden as winning this then it is rigged big-time. Palin won, hands-down unmistakably!!! BIG TIME. …and the winn-ah is…. SARAH PALIN!
Her summary was great…There is no need for fundamental change like from a republic to a socialist state…there is no need for a fundamental change on the right to express opposition with the help of the law, This is the most important election in my lifetime…
okay. so i called my daughter. . .who’s on the sideline, working a football game (athletic trainer in training) and told her she HAD to stop what she was doing and text for me. I told her why. She said, “well heck yeah!”
#607??????
Biden is good. He’s just on the wrong team this election.
clap.. clap.. clap…clap.. clap
mpdamon! have a cup of tea my friend.
#616 mpdamon. Well, that’s because the child , BO, wasn’t there.
I do not hate Biden…it is time for change alright..change away from the same ole same ole worn out same….which he represents.
554 TerryDo
Because she knew the news media will take the interview and cut some parts, make a bias statement before running the clip, just to plant the message…. Peter Jennings is a journalist more journalist should strive to be like.
murphy on 10.02.08 at 10:31 pm
Calm??? he’s calm??? we’re we looking at the same debate!
Murphy??
gwen cordial to sp…tells jb he did great!
Now that is over, I am anxious to hear from someone here how Fox grades the debates.
going over to the radio now.
posting the poll.
The Dem ticket is backwards. Biden seems like a good guy. But I have to question Biden’s judgement in running with a terrorist sympathizer and flip flopping liar.
Palin kicked butt I thought.
If MSM does not meantion the Biden tear, I’m going to scream.
#606 jdona
I’m not worried about Biden. He & McCain have been friends and they both know this is all just politics now. If McCain is elected he will tap Biden for input & include his ideas as they go too far back to let this election stop their work. Just like McCain & Hillary – they respect each other and I think McCain will also tap Hillary to help him do what needs to be done. May not be cabinet posts but I believe McCain will give them both their due respect
This debate was professional and shows just how poorly Obama behaved during his debate with McCain.
John King says she was uneven.
polls and wrap-up post up.
take it upstairs!
i didnt watch the debates.. how did it turn out?
LET ME REPEAT…IF YOU ARE SUPPORTING BO you are the ENEMY…the fucking enemy….
And Anita Hill and all women should remember Biden’s ASSHOLE performance—he is a supreme sexist pig and he should get exactly what he gives…a big ole raspberry
607 jenniforhillary Yeya!! What jenni said!!
I love that she got her digs in on MSM.
I wish she was running for Prez instead of the men.
Joe did ok, but Sarah carried the night.
Well Gwen Ifill did an excellent unbiased job. Good for her.
Loved her line about the crappy MSM bots filtering info. She’ll learn how they work. She rules on the stump, in direct contact with Americans during the speech in MINN and now during the debate. She’s authentic. Her kids are in public schools. She’s a regular middle class American. My gut instinct is she is very very truthful.
Sarah was great…smackdown on Biden
I was listening in the car to the radio so I missed all the discussion. I was disappointed that whoever prepared her for the debate didn’t give her more rock solid evidence to throw back at him. God knows there’s plenty out there…. I’ve been a debater so I guess I look at this a bit differently.
Media on Fox said she did great, knowledgeable, forceful, not a single mistake, and mostly nothing embarassing, she held her own & think McCain will now recover.
Biden, they say, did no harm, and appeared that Sarah did get under his skin. But nothing impressive.
Say it isn’t so, Joe… my mom called me right before that part came on and so I missed it why did she say that????
pundits are going after her for mispronouncing a generals name ..
Anyone got the stomach for msnbc ? Whats the leg tingle saying..
Night Pumas – we’ll see how it plays out tomorrow .
I’m sure CNN and all the other bot networks will nitpick everything she said and say Joe did fine. They’re so transparent.
Or the standard line “no clear winner” that is until they put out the internet polls and all the obama cheaters give it to Joe
Im watching FOX. Frank Luntz group said that Sarah won. Handedly. There is only a few that didn’t agree.
VA-James on 10.02.08 at 10:46 pm
I watched it too!! Polls will shift in McCain’s favor tomorrow!
Good night PUMAS.
650 rtr4hill on 10.02.08 at 10:46 pm Or the standard line “no clear winner” that is until they put out the internet polls and all the obama cheaters give it to Joe
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It does not matter what the internet polls say, millions upon millions of people watched and listened to her debate and they are smart enough to decide for themselves who won the debate and who was most impressive.
I am so relieved. lol. Palin did really great. She connected with the viewers for sure. I liked her ending. She tapped into some crucial concerns some Americans hold. I like her jab at the MSM as well.
She had a down home attitude and that works.
Sorry but Biden came across as unattractive and boring.
655 kat in your hat on 10.02.08 at 10:56 pm
Sorry but Biden came across as unattractive and boring.
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I think you right Kat, he looked as if he really did not want to be there, as a matter of fact, I think he does not even want to be Obama’s vice-president…
Well, I haven’t seen the reactions with PUMAs yet, but I am so happy that Sarah did such a great job tonight. I am a little sad that Republican women should now have their own hero, sad………………that my hero is not in the race because it was stolen from her.
I also think of the difference in the debates with the two new people, obie and Sarah.
One had a face of anger and ego, the other of hope and enthusiasm. Comparing Barack to Sarah, I think obie’s face of hope and change are a mask to cover up a lot of anger and hate.
The Republican’s had better be dancing in the streets tonight.
Some words are regional dialect, like pecan. It’s pecon below the Mason/Dixon line and peecan above it. lol
The word nuclear is likely the same.
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#569 Sisterluck
Biden is a good guy, he does cry sometimes. He just picked a loser to run with.
Joe has a son in Iraq.
Folks….it’s her first debate. Imagine what a little practice will do.
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Who is Joey Stanko – Biden’s “Average American” Gas Pump Buddy who never has enough money to fill his tank.
, “Joey Stanko” aka Joseph Stanko, Jr. is a LOBBYIST, in Washington working for the firm Hunton & Williams!
http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/who-is-joey-stanko-bidens-average-american-gas-pump-buddy/
Well, I just got done watching tonight’s debates. I found it interesting when Joe Biden mentioned the name of an ordinary American who he apparently had a conversation with at a gas pump, about the economy, and about the cost of that gas!
Sen. Biden said the name of this “average American” was Joey Stanko. Some on a popular Conservative message board jokingly said, “I’ll bet he made that name up”.
Now, out of pure curiosity, I decided to do a quick google search, and lo and behold, “Joey Stanko” aka Joseph Stanko, Jr. is a LOBBYIST, in Washington working for the firm Hunton & Williams!
His complete profile/resume is available for viewing here: http://www.hunton.com/bios/bio.aspx?id=16009
The introductory paragraph states the following:
Joseph Stanko, Jr.
Practice focuses on issue advocacy before Congress, White House and other Executive Branch officials in the areas of global climate change, renewable and bio-fuels, the Clean Air Act and other environmental laws, energy policy and Homeland Security. Also provides strategic planning for corporations developing environmental mission statements or undertaking long-term business planning.
So the question now becomes… Did Biden have an astounding coincidence happen where the name of the “average American” he spoke to at the pump just happened to have the same name as a Washington Lobbyist pushing these exact issues? Or, did Biden, in his attempt to one-up Palin and her anecdotal stories about people she has spoken to on the campaign trail simply make something up?
I truly believe there are no coincidences, and what would be the statistical chances that Joe would happen to run into “some guy” at a gas pump, speak about energy issues, and what are the chances that that “average American” would share the SAME NAME as a man who Biden is undoubtedly familiar with through his lobbying activities in Washington.
Again, there are no coincidences, and I believe the statistical chances are FIRMLY on my side when I say — Nice try Joe, but you’ve been BUSTED!
Good job by Gwen Ifill of moderating the debate!
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