Senate votes tonight on the Bailout Bill. Tune in and comment here during the debate and vote.
Senate bailout bill
The bill the Senate will vote on Wednesday will include measures that:
- Allow Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to buy up to $700 billion in bad mortgage-related securities and other bad assets
- Allow the Treasury Department to modify mortgage terms to help homeowners avoid foreclosure
- Permit the government to receive equity in companies it helps so taxpayers get a share of any future profits
- Restrict executive pay for companies aided by the program
- Create an independent oversight board to oversee the Treasury Department program
Source: Senate Banking Committee
Also, be sure to listen in to The Lion’s Share tonight on Puma United Radio (PURrrr!) at 8pm eastern. Sheri Tagg, Riverdaughter, and I will be discussing all the news of the day and week so far!
Call in at 347-539-5420
Listen LIVE HERE!
EVENING UPDATE 10/1/08
1. Join Puma PAC today and be a part of the largest, most organized Citizens Action Network in the Pumasphere. It’s Free, Easy, and Fun! You will receive all of our Super Secret PROWLS, and we NEVER EVER spam you, bug you for money, or share your information. Never, ever. Join us HERE!
2. Make Heidi Li’s new Denver Group viral. Send it far and wide. Post links to it everywhere you go on the intertubes. Contribute a few bucks to it if you can. Click HERE to watch the ad and get the link.
3. Contribute if you can to Puma PAC, so we can keep the lights on. Donations accepted HERE, and THANK you!
(thanks to Billie Jo for the sock puppet graphic!)
692 comments ↓
1st?
E
Not to burst anyone’s bubble but….all our prowls today on Ifill basically was making everyone aware that we felt it is a conflict of interest. Now in saying that……
McCain and an aide of Palin’s has said, they feel Ifill will be professional and unbiased. They don’t have a problem with her being the moderator.
So after tomorrow night any whining or complaining if Ifill is unfair in how she handles it will be useless because both of these candidates are on record saying they are okay with Ifill.
Tooo late WBD ! I’m doin the Happy dance !!!!
Go look at the photo on NotYourSweetie. lol.
3? 4? 5? Top ten?
fedupdem,
she damn well better be professional
Did anyone get that email about Hillary sent me crap, talking all about Ohio and stuff.
ME!
LOL
Yahoo says I exceeded the number of emails i can send in one hour. It happens after a mass mailing
Does anyone have the same problem with yahoo mail?
Is there a way I can fix it?
I have complete faith in Palin to win this debate hands down with Biden’s gaffes and with Ifill unbiased.
Sit back and relax PUMAs Palin will not disappoint us.
6…
I did it! I got smileys…
:):):):):)
i’m of mixed heritage and I once supported oblahblah, but bias is bias
i’ve worked for local papers, studied journalism, USE TO worship the NYTimes (note the past tense verbage) and this reeks of underhanded nondisclosure… THAT WAS NOT PROFESSIONAL
we shall see if she keep her bias in check
HEY #4 TEXASTIGRESS it’s you
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=21281375
I love your moves.
Email prowls done along with donation of $50 to The Denver Group.
Guess I didn’t – back to the drawing board….
Do I have to send mail from another account?
Is there a Yahoo switch that will allow me to send more?
This limitation is annoying, I can’t get anything done.
It takes all day.
I’ve been sending emails all day.
how do we listen to Puma Radio again? me forget
Donation Details
Confirmation number: 9SE589968A482625J
Donation amount: $20.00 USD
Total: $20.00 USD
Purpose: Goofs Mom says GOOO Pumas
Maybe I should have just said oops…
oops, nevermind ….duh
#4 TexasTigress… I know where you can get some all -natural honey, today?
Aaawww!
I was sharing with my 14 yr old daughter about PUMA and about all the actions and results. She said, “Wow, that’s really cool, they remind me of those women in that movie that we just watched, [Iron Jawed Angels].
Yes, I know, she’s brilliant!
this guy wants to hear from us but I was so preoccupied by getting his e-mail right that I don’t know what he wants to hear …. anyone else watching Fox know what he wants ? I think it was on the Ifill stuff … gibsonradio@foxnews.com
Goanderson???
vote @ LOU DOBBS
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/
Do you believe it’s time for the liberal national media to take note that Senator Biden has made far more misstatements than Governor Palin?
#25 TexasTigress
I think it was about Ohio and stealing elections…
Along with the Bailout scam, I think voter registration fraud is the singlemost important thing happening.
Murphy never got back to me about doing a prowl on all the election representatives in states that have ongoing investigations. In any of those states, the election should be postponed or cancelled until those investigations have been finished and resolved!!!!!!
WBD – dang – I can’t even win ONE time !!!!!!!!! lol
#25 TexasTigress No I think he said about Ohio and the early voting stuff that is what he was talking about at the end and then he said that about someone trying to steal the election and said to write him and BO having trouble in Ohio
On a more somber note, I’ve been talking to the people I work with and while they want John McCain to win, they seem to think it will be BO. It’s as if the MSM has gotten into people’s heads and everyone is excepting the inevitable.
I hope it’s not inevitable.
goofs mom !!!! YES – you’re right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TexasTigeress:
“would it be fair for Ohio voter to think that somebody is trying to steal their election?”
#4 TexasTigress…
((((((((((((((CONGRATUALTIONS!!!!)))))))))))))
You guys are way too silly!
Here’s a joke for the day:
Hello, is this the FBI?”
“Yes. What do you want?”
“I’m calling to report about my neighbor Billy Bob Smith!
He is hiding marijuana inside his firewood.”
“Thank you very much for the call, sir.”
The next day, the FBI agents descend on Billy Bob’s house. They
search the shed where the firewood is kept. Using axes, they bust
open every piece of wood, but find no marijuana. They swore at Billy
Bob and left..
The phone rings at Billy Bob’s house.
“Hey, Billy Bob! Did the FBI come?”
“Yeah!”
“Did they chop your firewood?”
“Yep.”
“Happy Birthday, Buddy”
REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS
On PBS they said the Senate bill has lots of ‘ornaments’ in it. They actually used that term.
#30 TexasTigress did you look at the post for you it’s your happy dance
HEY #4 TEXASTIGRESS it’s you
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=21281375
I love your moves.
#3 Bella-me,
Our goal was not to remove Gwen Ifill, it was to plant doubt and put a spot light on the issue. Goal completed. IF McCain camp whines about this now, it’s bad form.
I posted this earlier.
____________________________________________
WE SHOULD NOT WANT TO REPLACE GWEN IFILL!!
First, no matter how much we protest, I don’t think that Gwen will be replaced. BUT what this prowl does is it sets the stage for the media and the pundits to say … “well, considering that Palin was up against a moderator who is an Obama supporter, etc. etc.” ….
Second, this issue will continue to be talked about, (until the debate and after), on conservative blogs and on radio. I know Fox picked up the story already and it won’t be long before CNN will be talking about it to.
Third, I really hope that they DON’T replace Gwen with another moderator because this will work to our advantage. The “Gwen might be biased” thought will be in the mind of the average voter while they watch the debate!! Which is exactly what we want!!!
Regardless, I believe that Palin will do well in this debate. It’s not like this is her first time ever to debate. Yes, the material will be different, but I’m positive that she will be prepared.
Go… was really sad to see the site go down. Wanted to send you a link to something I have been working on for a long time – that’s somewhat related.
If you are lurking, is there a way to reach you?
You guys are ALL right , thanks for keeping me straight – well….. on track anyway
So write to this guy and tell him what you think about the early voting in Ohio !
gibsonradio@foxnews.com
Texas Tigress and Neworleanspuma, thank you both! yep, I love kicking @ss when it comes to this election, but couldn’t do it without the knowledge that I gleam from this blog and it’s because of you guys, that it sinks in. lol
I have to tell you this, I am a member on our democrat committee in the county I live in, I also hold a county position, I have a McCain sign to put in my yard, but so far, can’t seem to get it in the yard….:( My feet keep dragging, but like I told the young man, it’s not a vote for McCain, it’s a vote against Obie and no matter how hard to swollow it, I was going to do it to save my party. When I put that sign up, I most likely will be run out of town, but so far, everyone except my friend, is saying that they aren’t voting for him and when I say I”m voting McCain, their mouths drop open and agree with me that it’s the only way to stop obie from winning. Several have said if I am, then they are going to do it too. awwwwww PUMA power, how “sweet” it is. Just a good ole bunch of sweeties.
sly – You scared the s*** out of me !!! I thought ,” Oh crap !!! Is there a video of me running from those damned bees ???!!!!!!!!! ” ( or worse)
Texas… I thought the “E” thing was over between us.
i wrote to mr gibson
“All of this REEKS of illegal voting practices perpetuated by the Obama people. YES, it would be fair for Ohioans to think something sneaky and underhanded and downright ILLEGAL is at hand.”
** I’m re-posting this (revised), because, downstairs, a few PUMAs responded saying it’s important…
———————
Please help the busier PUMAS here find important info and salient points in your posts!
> This is a critical time to act and convey to others (& to the media) whatever can help defeat BO and expose his camp’s dirt…
…and, because for some of us, our time is sometimes quite limited for browsing our long threads, you can make it easier for us to find the personally relevant info for our individual PUMA efforts.
———
-> SOME WAYS THAT CAN HELP:
– use subject headings on your post (in CAPS &/or bold).
– put important or salient points in bold
– use attention-grabbing words (like “ACTION ALERT” “URGENT” ect etc)
– write short, concise paragraphs (with spaces in between) or LIST your points or facts succinctly (like I’m doing here).
———-
> For making text bold, just type the following before and after the text you want in bold… like this:
<B>text you want in bold</B>
(for italics, substitute the “B” for an “I”)
————–
44 wontbackdown YOU WISH !!!!!!
#47 TexasTigress… you’re mean.
wbd – AWWWWWWWWWW-’cmon – can’t we keep the E ??????- it’s special
I am reading the book on sarah palin I have no worries she will do well at the debate.
#43 TexasTigress
now that would be a funny happy dance.
you know… it’s weird… on any given day, there oodles and oodles of worthless nasty BObot trolls over on the McCain site. it really makes me wonder… what kind of LOSER spends soooo much time on a site just spreading hate and lies and empty Party talking points???? it’s freakin pathetic… but if you feel like POUNCING on a bot, that’s the place to go
again i say…. pathetic
49 TexasTigress Ya’all can have the whole darn alphabet if ya like………
Oh crap i guess i should have watched the whole video I thought it was all dancing anyways I sent my letter out to John Gibson about Ohio early voting too. Does anyone know when this guy is on the radio (days, times), I think it’s safe to say he isn’t a friend of BO’s
#49 TexasTigress…
Well, if it means that much to you, I wouldn’t want to disappoint you.
————————–
#53 mountainsong… LOL!!!
heehee Landi, i bolded in my post before seeing your post
(oopsie)
important post. information is power.
spread the love pumas.
Just sent my email to OHIO
So write to this guy and tell him what you think about the early voting in Ohio !
gibsonradio@foxnews.com
I don’t like early voting, this doesn’t give voters a chance to see the debates and they can’t change their minds later when they find out the real scoop on the candidates.
If Obama is complaining about this and feels that people are cheating…
It typically means that he is doing what he is claiming his opponent is doing. So he refocuses everyone with a smokescreen to look the other way.
It is an Obama distraction.
It’s Obama that worked as lawyer for ACORN
It’s Obama that perpetrated caucus fraud in the primaries.
It’s Obama that is telling his people to get in voters faces.
It’s Obama that paid $800,000 to ACORN and had to explain it, and change the description of what the money was for
It’s the Democrats that wanted ACORN in the bailout and AMERICA said NO loudly!
GET REAL! AMERICA HAS BEEN WARNING THE MEDIA AND MCCAIN THAT THERE IS VOTER FRAUD WITH ALL THESE NEW REGISTRATIONS IN ALL THE SWING STATES. NO, OBAMA IS TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION, AND IF HE IS HAVING A HARD TIME…GOOD! THIS IS STILL AMERICA AND WE WANT FAIR ELECTIONS. YOU ARE THE FOOL IF YOU BELIEVE OBAMA. HIS SUPPORTERS ARE GETTING CAUGHT AND GOING TO JAIL. INVESTIGATE AND YOU WILL FIND
THE POLLS ARE RIGGED BY OBOTS TOO!
Nothing is what it seems.
Thank you for listening, stop repeating Obama accusations. We’re tired of his claims!!! He can’t blame his opponent
Anybody want to take a shot at addressing FedUpDem2008 concerns?????
As the token Repub I think I should be
on this one.
******REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS******
#374 fedupdem2008 on 10.01.08 at 6:07 pm hey,
just want to be sure we don’t join the right wingers in taking down a true journalist…the professionalism, integrity, experience, expertise of a PBS journalist is so rare these days in our media! not to mention support for PBS is already sth they struggle yearly for in funding, attacks in congress (how many times have the repubs tried to kill funding for public broadcasting!)
i feel that Ifal as a journalist in the true sense (remember them..?;), will be professional, non-partison (she’s NOT cable, geez!)….besides why do they have to shunt off the VP debate to the woman, hmm? i now of her for awhile now, but i’m pretty sure many won’t be as familiar, and sadly for all her hard work, integrity & reputation as a true investigative journalist for *years*~she’ll be indelibly assoc as the ‘biased moderator of the VP debate’ to the public!
I don’t think we should be tearing down the few women in the big leagues who’ve had to work that much harder…I know that is HRC’s legacy as well…And it is perverse to elevate aberrations like MMalkin et al as the go-to symbolic leader of the ’surpressed electorate’ (ie, puma & etc)!!!
As a minority women, i feel such role models are few & far between, and altho she’s VP debate (altho it has now taken on bigger importan ce after SP, JM performance lately-the debate committee didn’t think that when it was assigned to Ifal;)
Morever, taking on ppl like MMalkin etc as part of ‘our cause’ only continues to delegitimize, weaken & add to continuing dismissive portrayl of our objections/arguments, let alonw paint Puma & the like, as ‘opportunistic fanatics who will grasp at anything to hold up their pov’ (will we be hailing Rove next?!)
i know the Ifal as moderator does raise some eyebrows, but it seems to convenient to subject a respectibale journalist (after this primary & general election season, real journalists are too scarce & under-valued) to such over-scrutiny less than 24-hours before the debate. might even influence Ifal to go more lightly on JP than JB:-o!
Besides, I’d like to see what POV;) a professional, leader, working woman of color brings to the debate forum questions, intrepretations, responses, handling of big personalities, topics range, etc.
sigh~i’m starved for intelligent, substance-filled words & coherent, reasonable, logical converstations since HRC left! (the few secs of BC they show on tv are too few, sigh~!;) i swear, the whole fin problem & bill in congress etc became so clear (& not just ab situation now but what factors led up to it historically;) & understandable after listening to BC on Letterman!!;0)
P.S. HRC as JM Sec of HHS, while admirable, would be soooooo galling to someone of HRC’s abilities, who btw, was the *Presidential* candidate of the Dem Pty.
Pragmatic Witness
http://whitewraithe.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/ron-pauls-federal-reserve-abolition-act-hr-2755/
——–
The polls are fluid and there’s still time to shift things….
No matter where you are…
See more ideas and use the resources in the Action Center!
http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html
(home page: http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html )
—————-
Hi lillibet!!
LOL I almost joked on my pretzel.
Debate Training – Biden learns what makes girls cry
http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/01/debate_training_biden_learns_w_1_9211.php?1
Ahhhhhh all smooth criminals in the Senate will pass the bill, they’re emptying our wallet and asking us to bleed more!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChW4vVN4KE&feature=related
mick.. i said the same thing earlier today.. welcome on board
55 wontbackdown it does
i feel disgusted and disappointed with hillary..biden has met with her for a briefing on how he should debate sarah..
section 503 of BailOUT
and addition to the BailOut Bill
auto race track subsidies?
huh?
Texas: Verklempt…
Repost: I’m talking to myself downstairs!! Lol!
To Replace Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House of Representatives for the Purposes of Pursuing Impeachment”
hosted on the web by our free online petition service, at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/everyman/
#440 ladyhawkke on 10.01.08 at 6:45 pm
—————–
If the media is rejecting Puma, then we need to still send our messages without identifying ourselves. We are still a force to be reckoned with and come November, they will know it.
wbd Why verklempt ?
#66 osaka puma They have force fed the kool aid to Hillary. I’m disgusted also. I hope Palin does great and McCain takes the lead again. I can’t believe the polls, surely they couldn’t be right.
Got this email today. It is long, but has good talking points regarding NOBama and the Financial Crisis. Copy and paste this and send it to everyone on your list. Prowls done at this end.
*******************************************
3 Men who brought down Wall Street………………..and who they work for now.
Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have brought down Wall Street.
Be sure to read the “where they are now”!!
1. Franklin Raines: was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae’s accounting activities. At the time of his
departure The Wall Street Journal noted, ” Raines, who long defended the company’s accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn’t proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that “mistakes were made” and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company’s books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.” Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.
Raines left with a “golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear. http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government noted, “The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner.” These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.
2. Tim Howard: Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard “was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a “stable pattern of earnings” at Fannie. In everyday English – he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, “Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,”
On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La .,
asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant’s income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company’s board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.
Howard’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
3. Jim Johnson: A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you’ll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson’s 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.” Johnson is currently under investigation
for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
Johnson’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
1. FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor
2. TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
3. JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee
IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS – HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE – THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street ?
SENATE ON C-SPAN2
Bill Nelson (D-FL) said he would vote against the bailout bill.
#69 ladyhawkke
I have done that be for.
ladyhawke..can you just imagine the pressure sarah is under now..whew!!
PUMAs
Any PUMA that has not done their prowls is going to be in big trouble and I have a list and I am checking it twice.
Now get to work.
Dances is it true that you will have 12 great grandchildren in December?
Mama
What is the deal with Hillary and Bill geez, I cant believe what I am seeing and hearing, am truly disappointed and a bit amazed at them I would of thought they would of held back just a little, just goes to show never really put your total trust in anyone
TT: Didn’t know it meant that much to you (hang on, need another tissue…)
(to humiliate the crap out of me… LOL!)
(((((((wbd)))))) I will relinquish the E , but I will continue to THINK it – How’s that ???
Breaking! Partial list of Ifill’s questions at tomorrow debate released
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/we-got-them-the-vp-deate-questions/
wbd – sure , go ahead , make fun of me – I have thick skin …
carib..
hillary and bill want to hang on to their power so they have to play ball with the DNC
#76 MamaPuma is playing with Dances… just sayin’
Play ball with the DNC and inflict that idiot Obama on all of us, he win Hillary is out of it until 2016, at that stage she may be just to dam old and cranky for this job
———–
NativeFlower on 10.01.08 at 6:35 pm WROTE:
heehee Landi, i bolded in my post before seeing your post
(oopsie)
important post. information is power.
spread the love pumas.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Bolding key words is cool (not just to highlight important points & info). It also helps to break the monotony of blocks of text all looking the same……. as does italics, CAPS and “smileys”!
———–
– Again, for making text BOLD it’s:
<B>text you want in bold</B>
…for italics:
<I>text you want in italics</I>
– For all the different “smileys” and also those special “bullets” you can use when listing your points, etc….
like this one
and this one
… they’re are all in this webpage:
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
(scroll down to the chart)
—————
83 freddiebrown – no , no , it’s true , dances will have 43 great grand children in December .
58 mick Ummm, what’s a ‘token republican’ ? Is that anything like Obama being a ‘token democrat’?
Stop the Bailout!
http://www.freshaircleanpolitics.net/
This is the response to my e-mail. I didn’t get anything from Boxer or Feinstein.
Included is a link to look for your State Senator (s).
======================================
Dear Friend:
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns with me
via e-mail. I hope you will understand that, because of the volume of
e-mails I receive from residents of New York State, I cannot at this time
respond to messages received from residents of other states. I encourage
you to contact your U.S. senators if you have an issue or concern that
needs immediate attention. You can access your senators electronically by
visiting http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm for a listing
of their contact information. If you are still interested in learning
more about the work I am doing on behalf of New York State, I hope you
will continue to monitor my work through my website at
http://clinton.senate.gov.
Sincerely,
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
New York State
Shelby, Sessions to oppose new version of $700 billion economic rescue plan tonight
Posted by Mary Orndorff, David White — Birmingham News October 01, 2008 3:33 PM
WASHINGTON – Sen. Jeff Sessions said he’ll vote against the $700 billion bailout of the financial industry tonight because it was cobbled together too quickly without enough public input and leaves too many questions unanswered.
I hope many of them will vote against it tonight.
Did the Ohio thing—-asked em to just do for McCain whatever it was they did for Bush in 2004.
Well, the tide is turning to wards nobama. My own state, PA., has now turned to nobo.
Is this Country crazy? We are in a crisis, and I am not talking about the financial crisis. We have a crisis of leadership.
What does nobo know about leadership? What does he know about anything? I would love to know who or what is behind him..
I trust John McCain, but he has got to do something to turn the tide, or it is all over.
He doesn’t have to do negative ads; all he has to do is lay out the facts about nobo. Talk about his connection to terrorist Bill Ayers. Ask him about the “help” convicted developer Tony Rezko gave him when he purchased his million dollar mansion..
I guess no one in America cares about his 20 year friendship with the Rev. Wright. The same Rev. Wright
that preaches “racism and hate for white America”.
This entire election is making me crazy..
carib.. i have a feeling the clintons are in damage control mode and are trying to hang on to whatever power they still have left ..
catsrlove.. still 34 days to go.. lets wait and see..
#61 goandersen:
Did you see my post earlier to you about sending you a link to my site? I am not 100% finished but, it could sure use you and Trish’s info on the “Military issue”.
———————
Texas… It’s the BEST! Really… c’mon… you know I’m kidding with ya! Love that “E” thing… you get me everytime! Really makes me LMAO and I love to laugh!
mountainsong- when I was in College , i was a tokin’ democrat . is that the same thing ?
But, but, if the Bill is not passed, it will mean the end of the world!!!!!
It is viral to the nation’s economy that this get done NOW!!! There are provisions that are vital, vital I say, to the very future of this country. Provisions like these:
- Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502) -what are poor people supposed to do without TV’s????
-Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503) – if we do not iimediately get wooden arrows into children’s hands, they will become drug addicts, putting further strain on the economy! And remember, we would have never heard of William Tell unless he had access to government subsidized wooden arrows in his quiver as a boy.
- Tax incentives for Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)-Rum is the breakfast of champions! It does a body good.
-Tax package for Auto Racing Tracks (317) – we need to keep the NASACR crowd focused on racin, and not on the economy!
- Wool Research (Sec. 325)-Poor people get cold, and much research is required on just how in the hack we can make more wool to clothe them.
It is crunch time! It is do or die time! It is now or never!
Sacrasm off/
grizzly…
isnt it all just so terrible???
CALIFORNIA PUMAS!!!!
Just in case…
Rep. Xavier Becerra and Hilda Solis, who voted against the Bill, now are thinking to vote in favor.
Maybe they need to hear something…
Grizzly – that is exactly what has me soooo pissed off ! Why isn’t Mr. No Pork Going down on the floor and demanding that every bit of pork is removed ???? I SWEAR I would vote for him if he did that .
Couple of points-
1. Senate- looks like it will pass, I am disappointed in Hillary voting for it, if she does. McCain too. What happened to testicular fortitude? None here.
2. Bill out stumping for BO- ditto on testicular fortitude, Bill is out of politics, he has his legacy and is building the Clinton Global Initiative- he doesn’t owe Obambi anything (except a kick in the ass)
3. Gwen Ifil- I think our mission has been accomplished- I think she will now have to be SO careful about appearing partial that she will over-extend herself on behalf of Palin or she is toast (or maybe not in this bizarro universe in which we find ourselves)
e-mails sent, calls made,
ely… im californian too..I will send a letter to them..
Well I have news for the Clintons, I will bet anything if Obama wins this election they will be the last people to hear from President Obama.
Obama only visited Bill and begged for his help when he was dropping the the polls, if he had the lead he has not the would not give Bill or Hillary the time of day, but let them suck up to him for the sake of staying in politics, I just hope Hillary never runs again because she sure as hell will not get my vote.
I dont see Kerry breaking his neck to run all over the place for Obama, neither are any of the Kennedy’s but if the Clintons feel that is what they need to do well for their sake I hope the get the rewards they are looking for, I can say one thing once Obama becomes president that is one black man that will not want any part of that, and they will soon learn that.
Obama’s wife will make sure Hillary dose not get one toe in any administration run by Obama
osaka – feel free to let me have it for saying that would make me vote for him
i can tell you’re strapped on ! 
Charles Krauthammer (FOX) said that the bill is a pork parade, with all the pigs gathered at the trough. *sigh*
carib.. you are right my friend..
thats why im surprised hillary didnt go down fighting until the end because if obama gets elected she will be relegated to the “siberia” of american politics..the end of the clinton dynasty.. who knows maybe shes tired of politics
TT… ohhh you!!!
#97 Grizzly
No is not going to be the end of the world. There is Plan B, which is not mentioned yet. But, is better designed for tax payers.
Even Economics Nobel Prize, said this bill the Senate is debating is not gone work, but there are more options.
101 GOSUEF4HIL – What’s so great about testicular fortitude ? Ever seen a guy get kicked in the balls ? They cry like babies ! Women , on the other hand, can pass small people through their loins and then continue on with their day !!!! I want to hear about someone who has some damn Vaginal Fortitude !!!!!
Freddie did you get my email?
TT and WBD******
smacks both of ya with a rolled up E
New content
http://puma-facts.com/Equal.aspx
#103 Caribbean Puma I agree- if Nobo gets in he will not give a flying f**k about the Clintons- they are done either way at this point-
If on the other hand we can figure a way to sink Barry’s ship the Clintons can be instrumental in reviving this party. Who is going to trust the likes of Nancy Botox Pelosi?
102 osaka puma
Good Osaka, also send an e-mail to Feinstein and Boxer, please.
TT… no doubt women are better at handling those type of situations..they have to take shit all their lives..they are experts at dealing with assholes..
NEW GAME CHANGER VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ
“Covering your Fannie, Who really caused our economic crisis”
Send it to EVERYONE you know.
Just don’t sent it to politicians or media, that’s how they get banned! It’s tempting, but keep it grassroots!
You might LOVE this video even more than the first
Watch the whole thing, it’s got over 66,000 hits and well worth watching…you’ll love it…I promise RFLMAO
At first it starts out like the other, but the ending half is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not sure if the media is blocking Puma email… if so, instead of text mentioning puma, we can use a header that is a graphic. Like a banner ad.. It is easy enough to make and attach it like a signature at the bottom of the email prowls that we get.. I think it will copy and paste just like a word doc. I think dances knows what I am talking about.
Carrie – big typo – EQUAL pay not EUAL pay
ely…
i will do that my friend..i know california is a waste case but we still have to do what we can..
I sent an email to Hillary Clinton Senate site telling her that the Senate Bill is a disgrace, …lots more pork…I asked her what happened to the idea she wrote about in the Wall Street Journal..asked her where the hell she is and if she has become invisible like those she so eloquently about in the campaign…told her again how much I can not stand her support of fraud Obama…and that Dodd, Frank, Kerry, and the Democrats caused this event by in no way attempting over 10 years to correct the direction of Fannie Mae and Freddie…I told her I am disgusted with the whole bunch of them. Signed my real name, my Puma Name and the fact that I had been a Hillary Rapid Responder.
80 Notyoursweetie: your debate questions are wonderful. This should be a PUMA contest.
correction: .asked her where the hell she is and if she has become invisible like those she so eloquently talked about in the campaign…
#99 ElyLos Angeles
Pluck them witches!
LOL thanks
103 Caribbean Puma
I agree with you. Is very disappointing to see the Clinton’s campaigning for the empty suit, after ALL they said about him.
As you said, We don’t see Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani,etc. campaigning for McCain .
Vote at;
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/
Do you believe that Congress’s record low approval rating will rise as a result of the Wall Street Bailout that they are trying to shove down the throats of the American people?
Yes 17% 132
No 83% 641
Total Votes: 773
This is not a scientific poll
#111 Caracal Carrie… Smack HER again, Carrie!!!
————–
Your Site is looking GREAT!!!
That bill is disgusting and I don’t know how the hell any of them can support it. The only clean person that is untouched with the filth of Washington politics is Palin and that is a fact.
Unfortunately we will never get the chance to embrace that kind of innocent in Washington, maybe that is what is need someone that knows absolutely nothing of how they do things up there, then she can start fresh and untouched with the pork , air marks and favors for this one and that one.
Americans don’t seem to want that they love the rackets and underhand deals, they love associates like Rezko and tales of misappropriation of money, once people are connected to that they seem to fit and blend right into the oval office.
We are screwed and its time we start to understand that, if some of us felt Bush was bad wait we aint see nothing yet, just let Obama and a democrat house be in charge it will be a fun time for all
texastigress- nothing is great about having balls- just that James Carville used the expression during the primary- I really hate to use it as a feminist but everyone seems to get the meaning and what I was trying to say is all of these politicians are wimps and I am sick of it- who is standing up for us? I agree w/ the guy on Fox- this bill is loaded w/ pork and there should be no room for pork if we really are in a crisis.
Someone should speak up and say lets cut all the crapola out of this bill, pare it down to a readable size, take our time reading it-
remember what happened when W gave us a bill 5 years ago, right before an election- re: WMDs and the MSM is equally culpable for playing the fear card- that’s why we went to Iraq- we were duped and I feel like that is what they are doing to us again-
A recession might be a good thing for this country- we are out of control w/ a casino mentality.
Wow, I am on a roll today…gotta go play chauffeur to the short people now,
BBL
Osaka: She is already relegated to Siberia. ..frozen out of any influence at this point. Did she speak on the floor of the Senate?
Here’s the Senate Bailout Bill – 451 pages
http://senateconservatives.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayo08c32_xml.pdf
There’s all kinds of crap in this bill. Anyone who supports this bailout BS should be removed from office.
#87 MountainSong,
It was my lame attempt at humor.
_______________________________________
#87 mountainsong on 10.01.08 at 6:58 pm
58 mick Ummm, what’s a ‘token republican’ ? Is that anything like Obama being a ‘token democrat’?
hey pumas hows everyone doing ?? (in spite of all the b/s)
119 NewOrleansPuma
Good thing, maybe all pumas should drop a note to Hillary, after all, we have the right to do so.
While I was reading and wrrrrriiiiiiiiittttting, you all deserted me and came up here!!! jeesh!
#395 deadgirlsrise on 10.01.08 at 7:09 pm
#15 Bella-Me on 10.01.08 at 2:22 pm
I think its safe to say, the awareness is now out there about Gwen and her book. McCain should have known this way before today. Sometimes I am wondering if McCain is slacking the same way Hillary did there for a while before she fired some of the campaign people and took more of a hands on roll. She surged after taking that action.
Palin lit a match under McCain for the two weeks after the convention, he seems to need another match lit or more like a firecracker! He missed so many opportunities in his debate with Obot. Instead of hitting and jabbing he had enough to have a TKO and he missed it. I hope Palin does not allow her opportunities pass in this debate. Americans like fighters not passive submissive, polite people.
We need to prowl to Palin and McCain to get aggressive and win this election. I am not republican but I sure as heck do not want Obot as our next president.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John McCain is a fighter, a warrior. I know a Captain in the Navy, who is a pilot too… He thinks tactically. He then adjusts tactic according to conditions on the ground. The OODA Loop, Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.
And there is this nasty thing called the kill shot and it is is just that, for the kill. The warrior and hunter make the death stroke, when there is maximum likelihood of lethal success. No wasting ammunition. He has been taking shots, parry shots, engaging, making contact, and it is having effect that is irreversible. I got an idea what is coming, from the debate. The Obama campaign will be reeling in short order, just wait… John McCain is watching conditions, analyzing, taking in everything to do with his goal, and that is to save the United States of America from the likes of Barack Obama. And then he will act. John knows that right now, during an eruption of crisis affecting the National Security of the United States of America, before the smoke clears is not the time to thrust but the time to orient and adjust. He will employ the OODA loop. These times will be unlike any other. There has never been a time like this in American History. John knows this, and I believe the higher power determined that this was going to be John McCain’s time to do exactly what he was trained to do.
John McCain clearly sees Barack Obama and those behind him, as an enemy of this nation, and not just his personal enemy. This is hard, and the truth of it.
I definitely sense a groundswell now against the Chosen One who would be Our Dear Leader, I sense people turning away from Obama who were leaning one way or the other. Obama is just too zero… and humans have evolved to turn to the hero and not the zero. By the time John McCain is done a hell of a lot more than that will have turned away.
Please watch and spread this video.
Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4
EUAL PAY ME EQUAL PAY OR ELSE??? Now What’s wrong with that word, Texas?
Well now President Clinton is praising Biden like he is the candidate for POTUS. Probably knows we don’t like Obama so changing his tactics.
ely.. even better lets drop her a few “C”notes and see if we get any action..hehe
yeah that’s what I meant to say!!
They said on media today , that people were calling in because the market dropped, with complaints. We need to call in twice as much as before!!!!
This xmas tree bill is going to light up the nation, and put us under in debt. Ouch!!!
wbd – you’re so witty
that’s a good one !
———-
ANTI-BO TV ADS FOR SWING STATES
From Democrats For Principle Before Party (the offshoot of The Denver Group)
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/would-you-buy-a-used-car-from-this-man.html
Excerpts from their blog:
– This generall election anti-Obama commercial will run in the battleground states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri challenging Senator Obama’s truth squad), Michigan and Florida and possibly more as polls and circumstances dictate.
– We also have two other commercials in production, one raising doubts about Obama’s judgement to handle the economy and the current economic crisis, and one to run specifically in Florida and Michigan, reminding them of Senator Obama’s position about their votes during the primary. There also may be a fourth which would be another version of the one showing here.
– …How many places we can run and how often will, as always, depend on your contributions. And as always there is no contribution too small. $5 from 1000 contributors buys as much commercial time as $5,000 from one so if you agree with our views that Senator Obama is not qualified to be President and that an Obama defeat is a must in order to reform the Democratic Party, then donate what you can.
———
DONATE !!! HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN !!!
The ad may be somewhat ‘short’ and maybe not the best ad, but it’s something from the Dems that can impact Dems & not the expected anti-BO ads from the Repub camp.
SEE AD HERE (at their website):
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/would-you-buy-a-used-car-from-this-man.html
——–
137 osaka puma
YEAP!!!
Because she in invisible now, exactly like the median class
Bahahaha
This is worthy of a re-post!!
#109 TexasTigress
What’s so great about testicular fortitude ? Ever seen a guy get kicked in the balls ? They cry like babies !
Women , on the other hand, can pass small people through their loins and then continue on with their day !!!!
I want to hear about someone who has some damn Vaginal Fortitude !!!!!
AWESOME !!!! PUMA Sock Puppet Theater!!! Do the Obimbots actually say that about us??? What a riot.
LMAO actually!!!!
REPOST of Asian4Hillary’s BRILLIANT spot on ditty about WHO is to blame in large part for Sub Prime FIASCO:
I think Bill Clinton better be quiet, he has a LOT to do with our financia debacle. It was during his term he lifted remaining regulations for Fannie and Freddie. Banks had to give loans to homebuyers even if their income doesn’t qualify them for a loan, even those with bad credit history were able to get a loan to buy a house knowing eventually they’ll default in their montly payment. I remember Clinton in the 90’s telling the American people even those with bad credit history can apply for home loan. He was catering to minorities especially AA voters.
What happen in our financial system, standard banking procedure was never followed, instead what was impose to all banking institutions if they don’t grant loans to these new homeowners ACORN will SUE THEM for DISCRIMINATION.
Bill Clinton Administration has a LOT more to do with this financial crash in Wallstreet than GWB who is now sitting in the Whitehouse.
GWB warned Congress in 2003 to write regulations because Fannie and Freddie are padding their accounting books. Democrats in Congress like Barney Frank head of Finance Committee criticized Bush and stated these two corporations that are GSE are finally sound.
Black Caucus in Congress are the BIGGEST supporters of Fannie.
Who’s to blame? The Democrats in Congress and Senate, to blame GWB is downright stupid and idiotic in my opinion. Stop covering for the Democratic Party, to deny the fact is to deny earth revolves around the sun, not the other way around.
HELL FUCKING YES…..And Bill Clinton needs to shut his mouth when it comes to endorsing Mr. Blah Blah and I called him today and told him that. The Democrats are starting to look more and more and more like BOTS in general, and I am beginning to wonder if I am Alice lost in NObamaland…..
Oh please I have stopped making excuses for the Clitons I heard Bill say today that with this bail out the president will be tied up for the first two years and the VP will have to play an important role.
In that case Palin is not capable of fitting that role, she is not capable of being VP, that is not talking up Biden that is slamming Palin and he was on the media some days again saying people should not do that.
Once again the Clinton’s seems to change their stance at the drop of a hat or maybe at the drop of a few bucks
96 TexasTigress I thought that was the only kind, back then.
did my prowls also got my three daughters to do them too
139 nhforhillary
I didn’t call and I didn’t complaint about the falling market .
I don’t even have a job…LOL
catsrlove
You didn’t mention BO’s ties to Abunimah and Khalida and their ties to fundraising for Palestinian terrorist groups.
I don’t understand why no one is talking about them.
CNN did a long piece on Ifill this evening. She is under pressure now to be fair or her reputation will never be the same.
147 mountainsong wink and nod at ya
We have seen in the last week the level of thought and action that moves the House of Representatives and the Senate. They run this country..a bunch of sycophantic, arrogant, pandering, self serving fools.
No wonder such a mediocre fraud is a candidate for President. What is lower than mediocrity? Ido not know but that is what we have.
145 jenniforhillary Hi, Alice.
Just a reminder:
Don’t forget to outfit yourselves with Puma PAC Action Gear before election day… Let’s Pumatize our protest votes!
There are also lovely items for debate watching parties, Puma Consciousness Raising Parties, etc..
http://pumapac.org/emporium.html
Playing at a theatre near you
NEW GAME CHANGER VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ
“Covering your Fannie, Who really caused our economic crisis”
Send it to EVERYONE you know.
Just don’t sent it to politicians or media, that’s how they get banned! It’s tempting, but keep it grassroots!
You might LOVE this video even more than the first
Watch the whole thing, it’s got over 66,000 hits and well worth watching…you’ll love it…I promise RFLMAO
At first it starts out like the other, but the ending half is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#140 TexasTigress… and by the way… Vag Fort are innies, and Test Forts are outies! I are smart, two!
jenniforhillary
Exactly it was Clinton with his pandering to the black vote that started this low cost housing mess, no one wants to admit that but it stated way back then, when he was jumping hoop to give blacks financial security.
What do people feel they use to call him the first black president for, its all the favor and deals to give them homes, money for business and so on, now we are paying for it and I sure wish someone would open their dam mouths and call it as it is
Pumas we need to get Obamas Social Security Plan out to seniors in Florida. They think McCain will mess with SS due to Obamas lies. What can we do? any suggestions?
#133Ely: I have done so a number of times over the last three months. The one I sent today was certainly no less direct than others I have sent. I worked many hours a day as a Hillary Rapid Responder and I will continue to tell her what I think…she may not see the emails but someone on her staff will.
#69 ladyhawkke
If the media is rejecting Puma, then we need to still send our messages without identifying ourselves. We are still a force to be reckoned with and come November, they will know it.
—————————————————————————————————–
Of the five addresses that were reported bouncing by many Pumas for today’s prowl I think that only ONE ( Chris Matthews) may have a filter that rejected the word ‘puma’. I tried sending the prowls without including it and Matthews went through. The other four bounced anyway.
#76 MamaPuma
I did the prowls but anonymously
Maybe it’s just a viscious rumor, but I choose to believe Obama is Osama bin Laden’s brother.
carib.. thats politics for you.. one day you’re the first “black prez”..the next you’re a “cracker”
TenesseePuma – how are you doing with the emails.
I hope oK.
152 NewOrleansPuma
“No wonder such a mediocre fraud is a candidate for President. What is lower than mediocrity? Ido not know but that is what we have.”
:
======================================
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is pathetic
I just faxed McCain, Bill Nelson & Mel Martinez and told them to vote NO on the bailout! Not one candidate is standing up for the American people. I’m disgusted McCain didn’t take a stand on this, he could have won the election with just a show of guts. Did you see what they put in that bill ? Pure Pork!
#3 Bella-Me on 10.01.08 at 6:11 pm
Not to burst anyone’s bubble but….all our prowls today on Ifill basically was making everyone aware that we felt it is a conflict of interest. Now in saying that……
McCain and an aide of Palin’s has said, they feel Ifill will be professional and unbiased. They don’t have a problem with her being the moderator.
So after tomorrow night any whining or complaining if Ifill is unfair in how she handles it will be useless because both of these candidates are on record saying they are okay with Ifill.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The American Public will be watching Gwen Ifill very closely with regards to the conflict of interest, The people will be watching very very closely for anyone throwing the game. If Americans want to see one thing, that is fair play. It is why people cannot get their minds around any thing that is happening right now. No one wants to see what we are really seeing. But it is here gut punching us. We are days away from a Banana Republic and its going to start sinking in. This economic crisis and the response in Washington is a wake up call to the people and people are waking up.
osaka puma
LOL cracker I have another name for him Obama’s *itch
pwowls done late
oops i mean prowls
#99 ElyLos Angeles
OK, I sent my Email and called them.
This stuff is just moving to fast.
Were is the over site?
carib… hehe
i hear ya..
161 mountainsong
You can expect anything with this guy…
:
#149 Ely
Oh, you forgot to call the senators to tell them to insure your bank account for $250,000 …. how did they know to do it? lol
They put us out of jobs and we’re supposed to love this xmas tree bailout???
Wall street can keep putting money in Obamas pocket!
They can all keep their jobs, huh?
Help, can someone find MY EARMARK. Did they forget to put it in the bailout to rescue me??
163 freddiebrown
Aside from, maybe, 6 email addresses on the senators contact list, they’re all we form addresses… so they won’t work for mass emailing.
Well, in truth, Obama is at least ‘half cracker’.
nforhiilary.. yeah theyll raise the FDIC limit to 250 grand ..only problem is in a few years down the line that 250 grand could be worth $2.50 with a german style inflation
Is rense.com a bad source? I don’t know anything about it..
I just called my senators in minnesota and the guy had to put me on hold. Phones are busy. Unreal that they would add pork on to what is a bad bill. Stand up Mccain and say NO!
caracal.. rense sometimes has cutting edge information..but theres still a lot of flying saucer chupacabra BS on it..
The chupacabra is real!! LOL
22 mins. Till Puma United radio
165 ladyhawkke
“I’m disgusted McCain didn’t take a stand on this, he could have won the election with just a show of guts. Did you see what they put in that bill ? Pure Pork!”
======================================
Is gone happen the same thing that happen with Hillary.
Later on he will be campaignin for BOBO
LOL
Good Evening Pumas
For those who are intereted Lou Dobbs will be discussing Gwen Ifill and her book
shit – osaka – you walked right into that chupacabra one !! I told carrie I swear this stray dog that showed up during the hurricane is a chupacabra !!lol
#58 mick
As another Republican, I noted that what ‘fedupdem2008′ wanted was just another dyed-in-the-wool Democrat as commentator, regardless of the fact that professional journalists should never wear their hearts/souls on their sleeves. And the not so subtle digs at MMalkin show the mindset that any Democrat is better than no Democrat.
#69 ladyhawkke
The petition to impeach Nancy Pelosi is the cover for a petition to impeach Bush/Cheney. I’m all in favor of ousting Pelosi, but not because of anything Bush/Cheney may or may not have done. All backdoor/underhanded Democratic behavior should be railed against, not just selective portions of it.
Carrie, It seems like people on here said you have to cut thru the BS on rense… can’t remember exactly what the issue was when it was said, tho?
#175Mountainsong: He is no half a cracker. To call him that is to insult the crackers who have more sense in their little toe than he can ever imagine.
He is an empty void, an amoral soul, who has usurped all the language of the high minded, the idealistic, and those who seek excellence. This is the most dangerous reality of all. Why..he is a fraud in every dimension. And why he must be defeated. ..the biggest lie perpetrated on the American people in the history of the country…
173 nhforhillary
I don’ t think I even have a bank account. My bank was WAMU and it fell last friday.
LOL
——
ANTI-BO TV ADS
RE: The AD from “Democrats For Principle Before Party” (the offshoot of The Denver Group)…
- We need more and better anti-BO TV ads from Dem-citizen groups (like PUMA groups).
- Anti-BO TV ads put out by Dems, conveying OUR unique concerns, can have more of an impact among Dems (& others) than the typical Repub ad, which might invoke, “…oh, that’s just another Republican/McCain ad… what do you except from them?!”
- I’ve said this in past posts: …that PUMApac should raise money to produce powerful TV Ads for the swing states… and/or join forces with other PUMA/JSND groups to raise money for this and to work on this project together… I’m up for donating to TV ads!
> Check out what Democrats For Principle Before Party is doing… and donate! (It may be a rather short ad… but it’s SOMETHING from a Dem group!)
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/would-you-buy-a-used-car-from-this-man.html
——
WBD
There was a great lil story on there about Obama’s not exactly’s (lies). It didn’t have the stuff on there that I know was disproven, so I thought Id make a page of it. But I don’t like to use sources that people will just ignore or say “consider the source”. Guess I’ll pass on it.
All this pork in the Senate bill is a set up for McCain..if he says yes..what happens to that aspect of his campaign…his rejection of earmarks…it dilutes it..and I think that is also a reason why the Democrats put it in.
#103 I agree with all the posts about the Clintons. I think they sold their souls. I’m not sure I could ever support Hillary again. The whole process drained me. I’m really tired of people sucking up for votes. Bush ran vile ads against McCain and he sucked it up, was pissed for awhile, but then he was hugging Bush. Politics is too dirty for me, no one is honest and everyone is looking out for themselves, never the people. Really depressing.
Freddie check email-10acpuma
Kay Bailey is talking and I called her 3 times today and left messages – I switched to c-span too late ! Anyone hear what she said ????
The Main Streets Rescue Plan:
http://news.newsmax.com/?K6O6.Yy7pz1xsObzisXlGBIHeQyetfRAK&http://perotcharts.com/mainstreet
This is far better than anything Congress came up with but is missing some of the essentials that can be gotten and reused from FDR’s NEW DEAL, like putting people to work to have an income to make the country run and to break the country’s addiction to credit. The entire country needs to be put into Credit Rehab and not to continue being Pushers of credit…………credit was the cause of the 1929 crash and credit has been the reason of many countries falling into nothingness.
The country needs to get back to operating on CASH FLOW and not CREDIT FLOW !!!!!
At this point Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are worth more than all the municipalities and the federal government combined.
My opinion is that the Pheonix needs to go up in flames in order to be reborn new and better.
(((((Caracal Carrie)))))) I’m glad your on your the nice sister, your sibling got me put in time out today for 44 minutes. She is wild and a trouble maker..
“And tucked away in the tax provisions is a landmark health care provision demanding that insurance companies provide coverage for mental health treatment—such as hospitalization—on parity with physical illnesses.”
We all care about health care. It is – and should be – a part of future discussions, debate and then legislation.
But doing it this way is just plain wrong.
Did Harry Reid just say today that the insurance markets are nearing collapse? How then, I ask, can this bill justify adding a huge financial stipulation to an industry that – just today – Harry Reid said was in grave trouble.
I can only ask myself this: Am I, a taxpayer, as dumb as this Congress is making me out to be? I think not.
This bailout bill is rife with Old Washington sickness.
How do we get the full list of attached items, their costs and which Senators are responsible for them?
#188 ElyLos Angeles
I was Wamu too.
Here is the link for that posting.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14161.html
Oh yea and she is a big tattle tale too.
This democrat is talking about how important adding the train shit into the bill is !!!!!!!!!!! if it is that freakin important – why the hell did they wait to stick it in our …….. freaking bailout bill !!!????? I could give a rats ass about the trains ! Don’t tell me everyone will be homeless and the answer is to spend billions on trains !!!!!!!!!
MAMMA PUMA
These are the only e-mail were returned to me.
nitelineabc.com@email.disney.com
chris.matthews@msnbc.com
(((sly))))
44 minutes???!! sheesshhh
Is it too late to get a PUMA Earmark on the Pork Bill?
Mountain
Tomorrow folks I call for my money back from the Clintons…I have HAD IT. Period. End of story.
I will leave a message stating that if Hillary or Bill have the time or inclination to call me and explain WTF they are doing I might get on board, but if not GOODBYE….
I didn’t even cry when I made this decision folks, because this is more serious than my adoration (past) and heroine worship, this has to do with my future and the future of this country…
NOBAMA…NO FUCKING WAY…HEAR ME NOW YOU IDIOTS the man isn’t good enough to pump gas much less be POTUS!!!
I think I just heard that it is now $850 Billion, no longer $700 billion….
!
202 ElyLos Angeles
Thanks. Will delete.
#201 TexasTigress
Its a money Pinata, every one wants candy.
Where are all the good old hambuger and ipod commercials on tv these days? LOL
All I get here are Obama “idiot” ads and bank and investment ads….so that everyone can be sucked into the spider’s web even future.So that we can become dinner rather than just hanging out stuck to the web.
DWP
Did you get my email?
#201 TexasTigress
If Obama is elected, he will know who’s who. Registered Republicans, of whom I am one, may be expected to take those trains. And, no, this isn’t just twisted humor. All PUMAs KNOW just how creepy this whole Obama crap is getting.
I heard the $850 billion also….they sure are trying to keep it quite.
Does anyone know if McCain is “in the house”?
I agree with the previous poster whom said that they think this is a set up for McCain. I almost hope he doesn’t show…got stuck in traffic…………
I just sent this train bs to the media ! they are telling us everyone will be homeless , but wait, lets spend billions on TRAINS !!!! Somebody stop these people !!!!!!!
GBPuma
All the good hamburger adds decided to be on last night when I was sick for eating..a cheeseburger
TexasTigress: Hey there, Tigress…you better worry about those trians, girl…I am old enough to remember that is how the hobos got around…we lived a block away from the railroad tracks and I was always fixing bologna sandwiches for the hobos…That may be our only way to get around and get lunch after these suckers finish with the country! LOL
Maybe this not voting for the bail out bill will be McCain’s October surprise!
#211 ChristineRI
Big Bratha
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/BigBrotha.jpg
This email address looks liek a cut and paste hybrid… wasn’t on our list of Media Contacts:
nitelineabc.com@email.disney.com
——————————————–
Caracal Carrie
Not at my gmail, haven’t checked actioncenter@pumaapc.org yet… will as soon as I finish with my real name email.
Hi
You are receiving this email because you requested that BlogTalkRadio.com remind you when select shows are about to air.
Show time:
The show NO WE WON’T PUMA RADIO
copy and paste the link below:
http://www.Blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/10/02/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO
#208 shampoovta on 10.01.08 at 7:52 pm #201 TexasTigress
Its a money Pinata, every one wants candy.
Except US we get to PAY through every orifice for this BIG BIG BIG PARTY……….breakout your checkbook NOW and the Gold Bricks…..might as well just sign it and sent them the blank check with a few gold bricks and say here just fill it in.
Nothing in these bills is helping put people to work, get jobs, make an income, so that they can pay these bills and keep cash( remember that stuff) moving in the economy.
Dian F office received 85 thousand calls against the bail out.
If you have time – PLEASE !!!!!!!! E-mail the media again about all of the pork in this bill !!!!!! How DARE tehy take advantage of this financial crisis to pad pet projects !!!!
DWP
OK I didn’t have your real on so I sent it to the action center.
Listen,
the Dems are playing this fiasco to the hilt. If we do not rescue, the credit industry will dive and this will hurt ALL OF US. Please note that this is not a bailout as we (AMERICANS) will own the debt and we may even MAKE money, but that is NOT the point–the point is the DEMS are staging this to Mr. Hussy’s advantage and we cannot let it go there.
John McCain is both smart and prudent, he will do what he needs to do to get us to the other side. ONCE THERE, he can kick ass. Let’s help him get there because that life boat we are on — when it sinks — well we ALL go down!!
Blog radio is on!
TT
emailed media about bill Makin Bacon
Hi Pumas
Anybody knows how the rest of the people are responding to the bailout today? Are they making demonstrations or everything is quiet?
It didn’t pass before because of the pressure put by the people.
205 jenniforhillary
I feel exactly the same,
Did you receive this invitation from Hillary?
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/events/la1004.html?sc=e994&utm_source=e994&utm_medium=e
I agree with the bail out – NOT the pork they have added to it !
Carrie… Your site is really taking shape in such a short period of time (long hours, I know). It has such quality information, yet so easy to navigate.
I enjoy going there and, like here, it’s now a “must stop” for me everyday.
Great job, Carrie!
—————————
We need some really good “speeches” about the Future of America in this Government’s hands! They seem to like “speeches”. They listen to speeches, speak about speeches, give speeches.
Anyone good at writing and making “Speeches”.
We need some damn speeches!
——
RE: GWEN IFILL’s BIAS
The fact that Gwen Ifill, who will be moderating the VP debate, is so pro-BO and writing a pro-BO book (and likely quite biased against BO) is of concern, not mainly because of what she might say or ask…. But because someone’s attitude and bias is often subtly conveyed in the body language and tone of voice… how she asks the questions, how long she lets each candidate speak, etc…. She can attempt to influence their performance (consciously and unconsciously) through various non-verbal means.
These are psychology principles that the media should also be made aware of.
They should never have picked someone who is so invested in promoting BO (through writing a book, etc) to moderate the only VP debate!
—-
wbd
Thanks so much! I am trying to find some good content to add tonight.
187 NewOrleansPuma Thanks. I was gonna say that, but was afraid I’d get accused of being ‘racist’. LOL
This bailout is such bullsh*t. The are telling us they are going to rip us off and then doing it right in front of our eyes and laughing all the way to the bank.
#229 TexasTigress: My guess is that the “Bail-out” is about 400 billion and the rest is a stampede of pigs.
McCain’s October Surprise is rolling over and playing dead. I thought he was a fighter!
Never send a man to do a woman’s job.
The bots are manipulating the polls and as a result are helping to keep the media’s attention on Obama. It is one of their strategies. Pumas could also play that game, yes?
I have already seen a few polls we have turned around. Someone posted how to vote in polls more than once from the Obama campaign website. While it isn’t ethical perhaps we would come out ahead fighting fire with fire.
#215 NewOrleansPuma on 10.01.08 at 7:55 pm TexasTigress: Hey there, Tigress…you better worry about those trians, girl…I am old enough to remember that is how the hobos got around…we lived a block away from the railroad tracks and I was always fixing bologna sandwiches for the hobos…That may be our only way to get around and get lunch after these suckers finish with the country! LOL
_____________________________________
Well we better brush up on our hobo language and symbols so we can get by after they pass this bill.
Here’s a great site.
Key to Hobo / Tramp Signs Below
1. Main Street good for begging. 16. Cranky Woman or bad Dog.
2. Rock Pile in connection with Jail. 17. People do not give.
3. Saloons in Town. 18. Bad Man lives here.
4. Prohibition Town. 19. Negro section good for Hoboes.
5. Police are Hostile. Look out. 20. Cooties in Jail.
6. Police not Hostile to Tramps. 21. Good clean Jail.
7. Police Hostile to Tramps. 22. Jail good but prisoners starve.
8. Leaving Railroad for Highway or
across country. 23. Jail filthy.
9. Railroad Police not Hostile. 24. City Police are in Plain Clothes.
10. Railroad Police Hostile. 25. Workhouse in connection with Jail.
11. Used in connection with any other
sign means next turn. 26. Waiting in Town for Person Named,
12. Church or Religious People. 27. Circle Town.
13. Town is Hostile. Get out Quick, 28. Jail good for night’s Lodging,
14. Main Street N. G. 29. Moniker (Name) and direction of travel.
15. Good People Live Here 30. New York Maggie
http://www.worldpath.net/~minstrel/hobosign.htm
Carrie: Any specific topic or category?
Texas Tiger
Eventually they will add more bacon.
I wish it does not pass.
I was hopping that McCain would oppose the bailout. SILLY ME!
223 Caracal Carrie
DWP OK I didn’t have your real on so I sent it to the action center.
———————————
Carrie, Thankl you! I read your email and sent a reply.
The action center is the best email address for action center stuff though.
nhforhillary
You probably need another account. I keep two on live dot com just for that reason. When one is maxed out,
I use the other one. By the time I’m done the first one is free again.
WBD
I haven’t thought of anything specific yet. Just something that some actual media reported on. Its hard to find stuff thats not just in blogs!
DANCES – You’re right. Senators list is not possible . How about the media contacts list ? That should be good as a list – each address in its own cell .
#222 TexasTigress Do you have a reference i can look at so i can email them with correct information? Don’t have much time to get something out.
Agree with you mountainsong.
Frodo and Danceswithpumas
I just emailed my newspaper contacts for Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada to the action center.
Need to leave for a bit now. I’ll check back later to be sure you got them.
Whether we are disgusted with Hillary and Bill or not it will be to our advantage to have power players on the inside if we hope to take back our democracy from this shadow government. Hillary is probably in the political fight of her life because they know how powerful she is and she dared to cross them.
sly – see grizzly post 97
I have an idea on how to prove voter fraud. Anyone game?
tricky tricky
liberty , my old friend from Tequila drinkin’ Texas nights
Sure what cha got ?
dwp and freddie
I made a list of the senate contact info on the second worksheet page in the spread sheet, even though it was web addresses, for the purpose freddie mentioned earlier of printing them off and crossing them out. You can also keep the web addresses as Hyperlinks in the spreadsheet to visit each senators page.
243 freddiebrown
I uploaded the block email addresses this morning. You must have missed that comment.
Liberty,
Will I end up in jail? If so please tell the bail will be cheap I am kind of on a budget right now.
247 CyberFerret52 If the Clintons still had any power left, we wouldn’t be in this mess and they wouldn’t be keeping quiet.
249 LibertyPuma Hell, yes!!!
Hello my little senorita.
lets commit the voter fraud and video tape how easy it is.
Liberty Im interested.
what do you think?
On the Rocks…. very funny….this idea might have legs
Thank you to everyone who send returned/rejected email addresses.
60 votes needed to pass.
how many of you received early voting cards from the Dems?
tigress……….
Olberman is going against McCain…again.
where did everyone go?
#237GBPuma: What a great post…Thanks…
We definitely must have had a sign on our house that said little girl likes hobos and mama does too…she would never turn anyone away but put her foot down when I started taking orders for what kind of sandwich they wanted and whether they wanted coke or root beer with or without ice!
#262
I didn’t get one. Maybe I did and I just threw it in the trash. Why?
Mountainsong…tennesse…. what do you think?
Have to pick my son. BBL
Have fun PUMAs!
onthe rocks…… we could send in our ballet and then revote at the booth in person. Video tape us doing it and then expose ourselves to the media.
Well we probably would get by with it if we voted for bozo.
exactly tenna…. our luck our double votes would get him elected!!!
#270 LibertyPuma on 10.01.08 at 8:27 pm
onthe rocks…… we could send in our ballot and then revote at the booth in person. Video tape us doing it and then expose ourselves to the media.
***********
Liberty PUMA – I second and third this idea. We have nothing to loose and everything to gain. We have to do our own investigative journalism. We need to present this to the media and make them run with it.
*****
Carrie… did you see this?
Officials Refuse to Provide Details on Secret Previous Bailout
Fed Made $30 Billion Deal to Manage Assets of the Collapsed Bear Sterns
By JUSTIN ROOD
October 1, 2008
“Top government officials are refusing to provide details on a secretive deal it made to manage billions in assets from an earlier bailout.
Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, has been pressing top officials for months to provide details on a deal the Federal Reserve made for a private firm to manage $30 billion in financial assets from the collapsed investment bank Bear Stearns, as part of an arrangement to facilitate J.P. Morgan Chase’s purchase of the bank in March.
The Federal Reserve announced at the time that it had contracted with BlackRock Financial Management Inc. to manage the assets. Since then, it has declined to share any further details on the arrangement with anyone – not reporters, not the public, and not Sen. Grassley…….”
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5930875&page=1
we could go town to town with same day voting and rack them up.
WBD
No I didn’t thank you!!
We could call our sweep of voting stations Puma Punches
Freddie did you get my email? 10acpuma
Is the voting happening yet? Is anyone showing it?
or Pumas Punked like on MTV “Punked”
Liberty “pumas punk bozo”……he’ll be calling the truth squad.
I just sent this to John McCain’s contact e-address:
JOHN MCCAIN IF YOU WANT TO WIN THIS ELECTION THEN SAY NO TO THE BAILOUT. IF YOU DON’T HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THE PACKAGE THEN PUT YOUR PEOPLE ON IT!!!
MY GOD MAN 90% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS FORCED ON THEM AND MANY MANY QUALIFIED ECONOMISTS SAY IT ISN’T NECESSARY THAT THERE ARE OTHER VIABLE OPTIONS THAT DON’T COST TAXPAYERS MONEY!!!
THIS BAILOUT IS FULL OF PORK….AN OUTRAGE IN SUCH A CRISES. DON’T LET THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO BECAUSE HE WILL COPY YOU!! JUST HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE AND DO IT!!!!
SOMEONE GIVE THIS TO JOHN IF YOU WANT HIM TO WIN.
Anyone care to join me?
ELYLOSANGELES @99
Email to Solis and Becerra sent
lol Dennis Miller just said on O’Reilly that Palin should bring a copy of Ifills’ book and ask her to autograph it.
NewOrleansPuma- I really don’t know what to say to help with the other site. I had my own problems there and couldn’t ever get some of them fixed.
Reposted from downstairs:
Ok, as long as someone else posted a politics joke here’s another…. definition of “foot”.. a politician’s pacifier… LOL.
Live long and prosper puma’s… I am going to head to bed. early to rise and all that stuff. (sigh) I want to cause mischief with the dem party. they are making me loath always being a democrat. Pelosi lined her husbands pocket with 100,000 $$$$ with campaign money. WE NEED TO HAVE A REVOLUTION!
Let me tell you how easy it would be to commit voter fraud in my area.
I just bought a bank owned house.
I phoned the election board yesterday to ask if anyone was registered to the house number I provided. The election board told me that the man had changed his registration, the woman did not.
I asked, how will you know if this woman votes from my address. Reply, we won’t. WTF? What did they mean, we won’t? They said that they could not remove her name from the address, she had to.
Well, I’m at least going to go the polling place where my new house is registered and check to see if she voted by checking the book.
Or, if I were evil enough and wanted to commit voter fraud I could vote from where I live now and do as the election board suggested and go to the new address polling place and vote. Guess what, sounds like no one would know but me, myself and I and no one here cares.
This is a serious problem statewide and probably nationwide.
To say the least I was shocked and disgusted with the entire thought and conversation I had yesterday with the election board.
279 Caracal Carrie on 10.01.08 at 8:36 pm
Is the voting happening yet? Is anyone showing it?
****************
It seem that they are still debating the issue, you can check out CSPAN.ORG and watch the debate going on live.
Bythelake…………..tooooooooooo easy to commit fraud. Amazing
Thank you Terry!
Ifill responds to VP debate controversy.
“I’ve got a pretty long track record covering politics and news, so I’m not particularly worried that one-day blog chatter is going to destroy my reputation,” Ifill said. “The proof is in the pudding. They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I’ve done my job.”
Ifill questions why people assume that her book will be favorable toward Obama.
“Do you think they made the same assumptions about Lou Cannon (who is white) when he wrote his book about Reagan?” said Ifill, who is black. Asked if there were racial motives at play, she said, “I don’t know what it is. I find it curious.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_en_ot/debate_ifill;_ylt=AqoYV8WSn7npz.xPw4Y6B_6s0NUE
Tenessee Puma – pls check your email
#292 Did Lou Cannon moderate a debate?
290 LibertyPuma……..Yes it is, and I’m sure it will happen here with all the vacant houses. Wrong, just downright wrong and OHIO Sec. of State Jennifer Brunner played right into the game.
She will never get another vote from me!
8 slyt2 on 10.01.08 at 6:12 pm Did anyone get that email about Hillary sent me crap, talking all about Ohio and stuff.
_____________________________
Got it and this was my response:
I have lost faith in Hillary. She said Obama is NOT ready, she said Obama does not have the experience to lead this country, she said she was in it to win it. I will NOT support Obama just because Hillary allowed him to push her out of the race. For the first time in my adult life I am proud to vote REPUBLICAN!!!! I will be voting for McCain/Palin.
I have a lot of family in Ohio….they are disgusted
#216 I am hoping McCain votes against the bill. It’s the only thing that can save him. And he needs to stop being so wishy, washy nice. Have some guts, for crying out loud. He needs to come down hard on Obama. He should have had speech lessons, he comes across as a wimp.
No voting on bailout yet. Am watching live stream online on C-span. Say Hillary sitting behind some guy talking.
Wrong. Just wrong again.
I am not proud to vote republican!!!! I am going to have to have a few strong drinks first. LOL
#277won’t backdown” Go google Black Rock Financial Group and it will blow your brain…the amounts of money they manage around the world..Read general profile and I googled Lopinto and Fink…who helped to develop the mortgage based security! Got that?
As I have though for quite a while, only a very few people in the country and the world are controlling the flow of the money.
#294 4hillinca,
Judging from the article, I think that’s the implication. Not sure however.
Would someone please make a copy of this video as I feel sure it will be removed by someone so the people won’t know the truth. I don’t have the resources to make and store a copy at the moment. (Have to get more storage room)
The video with the children singing Obama praises was removed and it is not the first thing I have seen disappear. Factual accounts that put Obama in a bad light are quietly removed from public view. So, if you see some information that you find helpful to the Puma cause (American majority) against Obama, please copy it so it can be reposted on UTube and sent out again. Copying the link won’t be enough. Thanks Pumas
Reid!!!! ( dry heaves )
blah blah blah cpan
Senate will be voting shortly….C-span is on now with idiot Reid reading a letter….oh, not one of ours, chicken….bawk bawk bawk
Oops! This video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ
Finished prowls for the day!
McCain is not a wimp. Anyone that can withstand living as a prisoner of war for years, gets my vote.
I don’t give a damn if Governor Palin can answer questions about the Supreme Court. What I care about is that she places the security and interests of this nation first.
BO is the true Manchurian candidate.
#274wontbackdown: I put the wrong number on my post for yours regarding Black Rock Financial Group. To refuse information requested by a sitting Senator is outrageous…Everyone go google Black Rock Financial Group…contrated two months ago re other bailouts.
These people control over 1 trillion dollars of assets…
here and across the world. Go google their management team…Fink..helped to create the mortgage based security..Got that? Very few are controlling the money in this country. We need to be informed about Black Rock Financial Group NOW!
Read their profile and google their members…It will blow your brain….
#187 NewOrleansPuma on 10.01.08 at 7:41 pm
#175Mountainsong: He is no half a cracker. To call him that is to insult the crackers who have more sense in their little toe than he can ever imagine.
He is an empty void, an amoral soul, who has usurped all the language of the high minded, the idealistic, and those who seek excellence. This is the most dangerous reality of all. Why..he is a fraud in every dimension. And why he must be defeated. ..the biggest lie perpetrated on the American people in the history of the country…
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What New Orleans PUMA said!!!
No vote from Biden
#127 Caribbean Puma
NEVER GIVE UP there is too much at stake!!
Clinton yes
No vote from Biden meant he did not vote, maybe not present or passed?
Did you all see BO’s new health care reform ad?
“govt health care, too far to the left” the way it is now, to far to the right”
“keep your employer insurance, keep your own doc, no-pre ext. conditions, with oversight”
Seems he’s changing things a bit. We need Hillary for healthcare!
deadgirlsrise: Hey, deadgirlsrise…You have to google Black Rock Financial Management, Inc. They received a contrat from for another part of bailout two months ago..Grassley can not even get somebody in the government to answer his letter. See my other posts and wont back down about this..
I’m going to blow a gasket over this bailout BS and the ‘earmarks’ now!!! I mean ^&*@#$!)++~~!@^#$%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Osama Obama on top of it all??????????????? If “Americans don’t trust Congress” Why TF so they/we elect em?
America is the biggest Nut Hut in the world!!!!!!
#72 jeremy:
Good posting, good info, Thanks!:D
Hillary Clinton voted for this piece of crap? I am finished with her. That’s it.
McCain votes aye
Mr. Obama aye
NewOrleans
I was just reading an article on Black Rock Financial. It said they control 1.4 Trillion dollars but have brought in 48 Billion in the last 6 months!
We need to attack Congress tonight and tomorrow! This is BS and you know what I mean!
McCain Must Make His Move
http://www.newsmax.com/morris/mccain_principle_stand/2008/10/01/136350.html
Oh now Biden votes aye
Hey, don’t you think it is really nice of Congress to raise the FDIC insurance limit to $250,000? Given what is happening in the economy right now, we’d be luck if we have 1% of that amount in a savings account. Kind of like closing the barn door after the cows get out.
#322Caracal Carrie: Go to their web site, google the backgrounds of their so called management teams…
I have said for many years that only a very few people actually control the flow of the money…The two top guys in this company are all over the place with board positions…A sitting Senator can not get anyone in the government to tell him what is going on with this group//Grassley can’t …this is outrageous…
Those who want McCain to vote no on this bill…. I think that isn’t going to be what he does. Didn’t he say earlier that he was going to vote yes on it- because he believes that small businesses will close and the economy crash without it? I don’t know quite what to believe on that. I tend to think that because McCain will do whatever he sees as right for America even when it’s against his own party OR the dems, well.. .I tend to believe that if McCain thinks this is vital, then it must be vital. I don’t know. Do any of you know for sure that this ISN’T vital?
I wish with all my heart that the dems would’ve been less partisan 3-4 years ago when McCain pro-sponsored that bill that would have kept this from happening. We wouldn’t be asking that question now….
Debbie Stabenow and Russ Feingold voted against the bailout bill.
After the vote your reactions (who cares?)
1-202-585-3885 support
1-202-585-3886 oppose
The vote hasn’t started yet… the vote you’re saying is only to get it on the floor…
#301 NewOrleansPuma:
WOW! There is so much more to this whole “bail-out”. The “staging” is over the top. The Wall Street smokescreen (“…the sky is falling… if we don’t!”) while backroom deals of who gets what, when and how are being made.
The saddest, most tragic part of this whole thing? The interests of the American People? Don’t tell me for one minute that any of this is about “the People”.
Anyone here have $250,000 in the bank? Don’t answer, but give me a break!
Tally on bailout;
Y 74
N 25
McCain should be offering an alternative to this Senate bill…full of pork…if he votes yes, the Democrats and Obama campaign will have diluted his stand against earmarks,…this bill is full of them…
A story about Biden – Obama’s VP
Joe Biden-Most revealing!
Joe Biden stiffed a CPA for over $15,000 worth of work done during his 1988 Presidental run…..
http://birdseyeview.blogtownhall.com/2008/09/06/a_story_about_biden_-_obamas_vp.thtml
I’m gonna go watch ghost hunters i’m disgusted
Call of the Bovine:
Mooooooooooooooooh! Mooooooooooooooooh! Mooooooooooh!
Feeling like cattle anyone?
wontbacdown: Yea, there is so much more and it is simple…a few people control most of the financial assets in this country and the world…and we the people are the last to know…I say this crisis was intentionally brought on by these few in order to move the campaign issue from national security to the economy….Paranoid? I do not think so, given this Blackwell Financial Management Group profile and a refusal to give information to a sitting Senator regarding what they are doing with the former bailout of one of the large investment companies .
Nelson of FL, Tester and Wyden (all dems) voted against the bill.
C-SPAN WANTS YOU TO CALL IN WITH REACTION TO THE SENATE PASSING THE DODD AMMENDMENT AND NEW BAILOUT PACKAGE
202 585-3885 FOR
202 585-3886 AGAINST
Freddie I am still having problem. I am on a mac which uses different programs then windows. i will keep trying.
I have had it for the night. What a disgusting night to be a citizen of the United States of America. My beautiful country…what fools are running the government. I will pray as I do everyday for my country. We need to pray for her everyday …We are on the verge of loosing everything dear about her.
Remember , Pumas – Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
More then anything i want to know why Hillary voted for it. Obama yea his a dog , McCain don’t know but Hillary that is the one I’m having the hardest time with…
#342 NewOrleansPuma:
I am with you on that, NOP. This is really a different kind of “war”. I do believe in prayer, in fact:
“The government (of my life) shall be upon His Shoulders”
Tell your Senators : Life isn’t like a box of chocolates. It’s more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow !!!!!!!
The world didn’t fall. WOW!
They just don’t believe hell is hot do they?
Tenessee Puma – just delete the column of numbers on the left. It is just excels way of letting you keep track of where you are . Do you want me to delete and resend the list ?
346 TexasTigress………Good one!
Life isn’t like a box of chocolates. It’s more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow !!!!!!!
McCain is within SPITTING DISTANCE, love it!
Congress…..NO BAIL OUT!
#336 slyt2
Oh ya Ghost Hunters. I love to debunk. “I ain’t afraid a no ghost!”.
I DON’T KNOW IF I CAN BRING MYSELF TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN ANYMORE.
LATEST E FROM OBAMA
Friend —
I know these are difficult times, but the stakes have never been higher.
If every one of us reaches out to friends, starts organizing, and takes a piece of this campaign into our own hands, we will win this election.
With eight states already voting early — and a dozen more starting in the next two weeks — voters are already making up their minds. This movement needs supporters like you to step up and volunteer right now.
The simplest tasks are also the most important and the most effective.
Here are some easy ways you can get involved today.
This campaign has always been about change — and real change comes from the bottom up, not from the top down. Supporters like you organizing and fundraising at the grassroots level will make the difference, and we have all the tools to help you do that.
Even if you’ve never been involved in politics before, it’s easy and doesn’t require any experience.
This election is too important to sit on the sidelines. And together, there’s nothing we can’t do.
Barack
–
Notice it is a Movement, not a campaign
I WILL CALL EVERYONE ALL DAY TOMORROW!
WE NEED THE HOUSE OF REPS TO SAVE US NOW!
Hillary disappointed me,and now McCain also. They are politicians.We put them there. What are we going to do?
Well…..IF Obama wins…there is nothing the People are going to be able to do. We will be doom . S%$T
Now this will really tick you off!
Women’s shelter cuts Bernhard after gang-rape line (against Palin)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_en_ot/people_bernhard_palin;_ylt=Asng_34oYUqrlbNzDexuekNI2ocA
Prowl we did today – is posted on Greta – One specific Puma with name in full!
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Reid=little dweeb
nh
The House of Reps will add more lard to the barrel. Wake up pumas. We are basically alone in this.
For Immediate Release
October 1, 2008 Contact:
ICYMI: Governor Sarah Palin On The Sean Hannity Show
“It’s going to be a very clear choice that Americans have on November 4th. You’re going to have an opportunity to support a ticket that supports policies that will create jobs, or support a ticket that supports policies that kill jobs.” — Governor Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin
Sean Hannity Show
October 1, 2008
Sean Hannity: But Senator Obama has proposed an increase in the Social Security tax, the death tax, corporate taxes, tax rates, eliminate the Bush tax cuts, capital gains tax, and windfall profits tax, but yet he is telling everybody in every speech that 95% of Americans are not going to be taxed here. Is that possible?
Governor Sarah Palin: No, when Obama talks about raising taxes on the rich, he doesn’t tell Americans that 85% of small businesses will be impacted by his tax increases — that’s going to cost jobs. That’s why I look forward to tomorrow night also, getting to speak directly to Americans, without that filter of mainstream media trying to I think maybe censor some of my comments as we lay out the contrasts between these two different tickets. It’s going to be a very clear choice that Americans have on November 4th. You’re going to have an opportunity to support a ticket that supports policies that will create jobs, or support a ticket that supports policies that kill jobs. Now creating jobs means we have to reduce taxes on our small business and on our families and we have to reign in government spending — that’s got to be an accompanying measure — and we have to make our country energy independent. All of the things that John McCain has been campaigning on for months and months, and that I have been standing for as the governor of an energy-producing state in Alaska, or again the contrast is you can support a ticket that wants to increase taxes, hurt small businesses especially and still propose spending nearly a trillion dollars more in new programs. Those measures are going to kill job creation.
Hannity: One of the issues that most people acknowledge that you have your area of expertise on is on the issue of oil and energy. Joe Biden once said that proponents of off shore drilling want to quote rape the outer continental shelf.’ Why do we need to drill more and what other policies would you support towards energy independence?
Palin: American people are a lot smarter than what Biden is giving them credit for there. We are understanding that we are on an unsustainable path and we are relying on countries that don’t like us very much to provide fuel for our economy and for our cars and our trucks; and oil to heat our homes and places of business and our schools. John McCain and I know that we need a comprehensive, all-of-the-above approach and that does mean drilling domestic supplies of energy, keeping options on the table that can include that offshore drilling that’s safe and sound, and also alternative sources of energy and also stepping up greater conservation efforts here in America also. And as governor I’ve pushed for and championed the largest infrastructure project in North America’s history, that’s Alaska natural gas pipeline, that’s underway. We need to maximize recovery of domestic resources; we can minimize waste as we do this. And we are going to help lead to less dependence on foreign supplies. And it is scary that Senator Biden has not grasped that yet. He has had ample opportunity to support domestic solutions here and every time he gets the opportunity he votes no’ on all options.
Listen To Governor Palin
Anyone here have $250,000 in the bank? Don’t answer, but give me a break!
Nope not even 1/10th of 1% of that…..How sad am I?
I can not believe that the asses are patting each other on the back.
#361 caribbeanpuma on 10.01.08 at 9:42 pm
“The House of Reps will add more lard to the barrel. Wake up pumas.”
We are and so are the American People who may seem silent on this now but in less than 33 days will roar.
These guys make me sick. Movie time.
Chris Dodd….CROOK!
These people are NUTS!
***** Breaking News ******
Obama Birth Certificate update:
09/29/08 – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he filed his Opposition and Brief to Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] Joint Motion to Dismiss in the case of Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Berg feels confident that he has “Standing” and the Court will allow the case to go forward. Our response was due in 14 days, but the Court requested our answer by Monday, September 29, 2008 and we complied.
In our response we set forth sufficient reasons that I have “Standing” to bring this lawsuit. Furthermore, I set forth additional reasons that indicate Obama does not meet the qualifications for President of the United States and Obama should be removed from the ballot and held accountable.
#255 mountiansong…unfortunately you have a valid point. Guess I’ll just have to get my gun and ninja and go with you. I grew up in the Louisiana swamps in a whole “nuther” world. Remember those folks during Katrina poling down the bayous looking for survivors? Those are my people. The waterways are their streets and all know how to survive on the land.
#367 bythelake on 10.01.08 at 9:47 pm
“Chris Dodd….CROOK!
These people are NUTS!”
You are quoting Jimmy James Earl Carter.
#363 Jer- Yeah I heard the show. She was AWSOME!
I cancelled my newspaper subscription. Journalism is dead, as Hannity says!
Freddie I tried that,it wont let me so yes please resend,i have been mailing a little at a time,my fingers are falling off…….hehehe
we knew the Senate was going to pass it. McCain, Obama, and Clinton all said they were going to support it, and they did. No surprises.
Poll shows Obama breaking with a big lead (9 points I think) tonight.
SO, we need to regroup and refocus.
we were never working FOR mccain — we are working AGAINST Obama.
There are still 5 weeks to go.
Let’s let the dust settle and see how Palin does tomorrow night.
The Republicans arent stupid, and they dont roll over for anyone — watch the campaign get a LEETLE bit nastier after tomorrow.
Never get discouraged Pumas. We’re the Good Guys. It may take us a bit longer to win. But in the end, we WILL win.
I couldn’t take it anymore…knew I needed a plan. Everything was getting way too intense, and NOT at all like the sweet anticipation of foreplay. It was getting to either that or eating a gun or a handful of pills.
Instead, i followed the plan… true to my name…. put on some soft meditational piano music with birds chirping and singing in the background. Some sweet Tibetan Healing incense…… A nice, relaxing, super hot bath with Lavender bubblebath…. and candles….in the bathroom and throughout the house.
Me time. For the moment I couldn’t care less about bailouts and elections…. life is too short and tomorrow is promised to no one. The path in front of me is a lot shorter now than the one behind me and i have to have some say over how I spend my moments.
Try it, my friends, and be gentle with yourselves. See some good and some beauty in the life you have, because no matter what happens, life is a precious, wonderful gift……..if we just take the moments.
mmmnnnnnnnnn, yes…..’me time’. Good night my friends, and may the Creator fill your lives with wondrous blessings…..muah. Namaste…..
caribbean puma– yep we ARE alone in this. But we are all alone TOGETHER as Pumas.
Oops, awesome!
Where’s Hillary? Ignored again?
Obama is a scumbag. McCain needs to put out ads about the Born Alive Act. McCain better get on the ball and do something. And I can’t believe that bill passed, GRRRR!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Obama_sought_rape_victim_for_ad.html
jerks I am not paying high powered hedge fun’s Bills this is shit we who make the lest will get nothing . I don’t want nothing either for free and I don’t want to pay the aholes bills
McCain to launch “fact driven ads” in swing states tonight after the vote about BO’s connection to Freddie & Fanny and all of BO’s connections in the hope that is creates a “trail of bread crumbs” for Americans to seek more info via internet etc… (info from Fox news-I’m still boycotting MSNBC & advertisers).
The bailout is formally called “The Dodd Economic Act”!
They should have rejected it based on the name alone. Named for the looter in chief, the man who was asleep at the switch while this whole mess snowballed.
368 Genevieve on 10.01.08 at 9:48 pm
***** Breaking News ******
Obama Birth Certificate update:
09/29/08 – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he filed his Opposition and Brief to Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] Joint Motion to Dismiss in the case of Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083………….
**********************************
I am getting the picture that this P.J. Berg law suit is nothing but a red herring.
It almost prevents others from pursuing his eligibility in other states. By the time they get around to going to court, and the Obama lawyers running circles around Berg, the general election will be over.
#363 michelle47:
YOU ARE NOT “SAD”! We ARE NOT the “ignorant” the “pitiful” or the “little people”.
The REAL PEOPLE on this Blog care more about me than all of the congressional and senate “leaders” combined.
Put a $ figure on THAT! They are all acting like of bunch of poverty stricken maniacs crawling all over the ground on their hands and knees for bucks that aren’t worth the paper it’s printed on – NOW THAT’S PITIFUL!!!
Tennasee Puma – Poor you… so sorry I got you into this.
Can you send me what you are emailing and I will try to see what you are talking about.. It is a lot of emails. I sent it not long ago and it took me a while but I don’t recall a problem.
Mountainsong-We will work even harder, and so will the repubs. But even if the unthinkable happens, we will have the satisfaction of knowing that we did NOT vote for the Pretender! We will have a clean consience!
Glen Beck talked about the VP debate moderator Ms Gwen a moment ago – Good job all Puma’s. I hope she behaves tomorrow as we know her agenda now.
#359 MsBinMD Awesome! I wasn’t able to do my prowls until now. Better late than never!
#373 Murphy–They are taking inventory of the powder and keeping it dry. This is what I relate to as a the siege. Similar to the Alamo in 1836. The line in the sand will be drawn next and then the gut decision of what will be the over all victory will start to unfold.
Disgusting the Senate passed that bail out bill.
The server is crashing to my Congressman’s email. There must be a lot of very pissed off Americans tonight!
Hearings.
Why are there no committee hearings?
Why is everything being done behind closed doors with rumors of shouting matches and deals.
Who is blocking hearings, and what are they afraid might come out?
#281 TerryDo I don’t think the lawsuit is going anywhere either. I called Berg about a month ago and asked him if he had hard evidence. No, he doesn’t. All he has is what Obama wrote in his books and stuff on the internet. He thinks by deposing Obama he can get him to admit under oath that he did not take an Oath of Allegiance (sp?) to regain his citizenship. As you said, the election will be over and we will have been bamboozled.
Wontbackdown
You are absolutely right…We the people are on our own it seems, those crooks in Washington are out for themselves. Together all the little people are a whole lot bigger than them. I say let’s show them who the bosses really are!
Fox News just raised the issue of VP moderator and say it was appalling that she did not mention the book before hand. They say it’s probably too late to find someone else but since it’s now been brought to everyone’s attention, American will be on the look out for her bias tomorrow and that this will look bad on PBS.
I am so sick of biased news and mocking, self satisfied, sexist, elitist people on TV. But my main concern with Ifill is she should be forced to take a drug test because of her broken ankle before moderating because when I broke my ankle and was waiting for the swelling to go down so I could get surgery I was LOADED. And you can’t take Advil or aspirin because they cause you to bleed more so you have to take hard core drugs. My husband said he would go to work and I would be reading a book and be on page 140 and when he came home I would be on page 45 happily reading away.
Open up a couple of different Yahoo accounts. That should do it. You can number them 1 to 10. by then the hour is used up and you can go back to the first one.
#10 nhforhillary on 10.01.08 at 6:12 pm Yahoo says I exceeded the number of emails i can send in one hour. It happens after a mass mailing
Does anyone have the same problem with yahoo mail?
Is there a way I can fix it?
The bailout vote reminds me of the vote for the Iraq war. The whole world was against going to war in Iraq but Bush just shoved it on us. And I distinctly remember calling Hillary’s office and telling them I was disgusted with her vote for the war. One of my Senators, Bill Nelson, also voted for the war and when he had a town hall meeting here, I let him have it. I told him Sen. Graham voted against it and he had no answer as to why he voted for it. Graham was on the Armed Services Committee and knew the whole thing was a farce. And so did Hillary, her vote was purely political and it came back to bite her in the ass by a senator who gave a speech and would have voted “Present” if given the chance.
Congress votes on the bill Noon EST tomorrow. That is 9am here so I need to get an email off to my Congressman tonight. It made me sick to see Harry Reid and Chris Dodd congradulating each other on a job well done. Dodd took more FannieMae $ than anyone. Disgusting
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTY1NWQ3YmIxODEzM2ViM2JiMzE2MWRjZDA0NDFlMzc=
listen pumas—we had to do the bailout. I am 100% against it but logistically usa needs credit right now. Just remember that WE NOW OWN those mortgages and the houses behind them AND that the whole debacle was playing to Hussy’s camp…
John just needs to deflate the lies and get in and do a line item veto and pretty much everything….but HE HAS TO GET IN!!
BILL MAY NOT PASS HOUSE
There’s no guarantee this bill will pass the House. The House members tend to be a tougher lot than the wimps in the Senate. Repub’s in the House are MUCH more conservative…
Just posted on the McCain blog:
“just got off phone with friend who is well connected in republican party in ohio. he says mccain going out of his way to take the high road is part of bigger plan . he says republican attack machine ready to unload viscious attacks on obama, unlike any that have ever been seen in any election in history.”
I SURE HOPE he’s right!
You know this is going to be a question tomorrow night at the VP debate> “Senator Biden, you voted for the Dodd bill—-Why? Blah blahblahblah hic hic hicup ah.
Gov. Palin, Senator McCain voted for the Dodd bill. Why..and if you had been a Senator, would you have done the same…or do you agree…and I have at least 10 follow ups.”
ladyhawkke on 10.01.08 at 10:01 pm
It will be grounds for impeachment after the elections. Then Biden will step in. Ahhhh… a no win situation either way.
I wonder how many read the 450 page $700 B- bill!!!
continuation of post #401… more from the same person on the McCain blog:
“he says they know that obama and media will try to tie mccain to being behind the attacks, so they are having mccain act so “honoralbe”now, so it will make it impossible for obama to tie the attacks to mccain “
House members are up for reelection, they are between a rock and a hard place. I am telling my Senator and Congressman I will not vote for anyone who is voting for this. This was not a necessary bill. What you saw was a roomfull of Senators protecting their own investments and getting their palms greased.
More from that same poster on the McCain blog:
“i asked for specifics, and he only told me only that no subjects will be off lmits. the goal will be to portray obama as extremist.”
Goldman Sachs $691,930
University of California $611,207
Citigroup Inc $448,599
JPMorgan Chase & Co $442,919
Harvard University $435,769
Google Inc $420,174
UBS AG $404,750
National Amusements Inc $389,140
Microsoft Corp $377,235
Lehman Brothers $370,524
Sidley Austin LLP $350,302
Moveon.org $347,463
Skadden, Arps et al $340,264
Time Warner $338,527
Wilmerhale Llp $335,398
Morgan Stanley $318,070
Latham & Watkins $297,400
Jones Day $289,476
University of Chicago $278,885
Stanford University $276,038
Top BO contributors
——————————————————————————–
Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
Important to sign the petition. You will be glad you signed.
#379 Genieve-Method to his madness? Wait till the Senate vote is over before launching attack ads! GO McCain! I heard Palin was SHARP against Biden on the trail today, too. Can’t wait for the VP debate- Go Sarah!
With this bailout Obama will not be able to afford to do any of the economic things he is promising. He can’t cut taxes now. That is the only thing that makes me feel a little bit better about the Senate giving the American people the bird.
I see Lou Dobbs interviewed DeFazio and Marcy Kaptur on the bailout.
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/2008/10/01/bailing-out-the-bailout/
I just faxed by Congressman, John Mica (FL). He’ll have my objection in the morning.
#40 wontbackdown
You could ask murphy to send your email to me..
BERG LAWSUIT: GENEVIEVE & TERRYDO
Mr. Berg filed his response to the Dismissal filed by DNC and BO on Monday (9/29) as the judge in the case asked him too. The judge needs to review the response before he can make a decision. If you read the complete entry (including the exhibits) on obamacrimes.com, I think you will see that Mr. Berg has some information that is not “stuff on the internet.” Also, read some of Mr. Berg’s responses to posts and see if you still feel this way tomorrow.
373 murphy
AGREED!! Keep your chins up everyone…..
Palin tomorrow night… : )
#335 RedStateGuy- Biden stiffs accountant
I just checked this story with Snopes. Since this email went around, Biden paid the $150,000 and Biddle wrote off the $15,000.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/cpa-stiffed-by-biden.htm
PUMAS we really have to be certain about things like this.
mobama… if he gets a veto proof majority in congress he can just order more money to be printed up for his pet economic programs
nobama… if obama gets a veto proof majority in congress he can just order more money to be printed up for his pet economic programs
whoops sorry double post hehe
…and still more from that McCain blogger I was quoting:
“he did say that the caucasian tapes do indeed exist, and are in the hands of republicans, along with unseen footage of wright and ayers both “
It makes me laugh that house.gov server is so busy it is timing out. Looks like lots of congress will be getting a lot of nasty email!
Hello Pumas!!
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe our US Constitution just took yet another Kick in the teeth.
Is it not true that all spending bills MUST come from the House??????
The US senate just broke the US Constitution !!!!!
What is our country coming to????????
karenWI…
assuming they have all those tapes i just wonder who would put them on the air being that the MSM is in the tank for obama
Are taxes won’t go up but will are deductions go down like has happened in the past no intrest on your homes no standard deductions less childhood care deduction’s etc.
KarenWI #400, et al
I tend to believe your friend that McCain’s strategy is to let the “Hit Squad” unleash the dogs as late as possible so as not to give the messiah time to recover from the attacks before the election. I sure hope your pal is right. :>)
wow.. all the big auto cos down about 35% drop in sales since last month
All these people praising Dodd make me ill.
But what really makes me angry is the fact that it seems like evil Obama news keeps coming up faster than anyone can deal with, before another big deal comes up. All of the business about ACORN is being hidden behind the panic of having to “save” the country’s economy.
I think Obama’s campaign seems to have a way of creating chaos and turning it all around to make it look like everything is someone else’s fault…even though it all starts with him.
I know some are saying they cannot vote for McCain but I keep saying that I cannot afford to not vote for McCain. His campaign is dealing with the devil here and the devil has too many supporters spinning it his way.
413 catsarepumas on 10.01.08 at 10:12 pm BERG LAWSUIT: GENEVIEVE & TERRYDO
Mr. Berg filed his response to the Dismissal filed by DNC and BO on Monday (9/29) as the judge in the case asked him too. The judge needs to review the response before he can make a decision.
****************************
I was mostly referring to time, after all November 4 is just around the corner. These court hearing take forever to come to fruition and lawyers know very well how to get postponement.
Although as 402 Genevieve stated, if he is found guilty even after he is elected, these will be grounds for impeachment.
I always thought a lot of Gwen Ifill–she always chose her words and was so carefully neutral–and I never trusted Michele Malkin.
Seeing the clip of Ifil making faces after the Palin speech was a shock. All Gwen could say was that Palin was against BO? That was her big analysis? What does she expect? Its a two party system. So far. Did she expect the Republicans to bow down before the O-ssiah too?
Osaka-Please< You’re killing me with the negativity! I hope we see McCain/Palin in!
P.S. I’m pretty sure this bill stinks, but I hope at least it doesn’t give money to freakin ACORN! Do we KNOW?
if he is found guilty even after he is elected, these will be grounds for impeachment.
—————————————————
If someone gets impeachment do they actually have to leave office? Their presidency being void?
Also, I wish McCain would quit being so nice to Obama. Beat him up on all of these issues, promise to follow up with information showing the truth, do it, publish it, and quit being such a gentleman.
#399 Thanks RedStateGuy I needed that!
John McCain has his justification for his vote. Take a look at the whole bubble. One vote and one bit of legislation will not be the final prescription or therapy for a prognosis diagnosed back in 2005 and beyond.
*******************************************
“President Truman was a student of history, and he knew how suddenly a crisis could come about. And while so many things have changed in the 35 years since his passing, Harry Truman would surely recognize the sources of the financial crisis that now threaten the livelihoods of millions and the future of the entire American economy. Only the vast sums of money would surprise him. But the costs of unbridled greed on Wall Street, the foolishness of politicians who fed the problem, and the recklessness of politicians who failed to meet the crisis — all of these would have a familiar feel to the man from Independence.
We are square in the greatest financial crisis of our lifetimes. And I am pleased to report that today, I will be returning to the floor of the Senate to vote on a bill that marks a decisive step in the right direction. The original proposal was flawed. I urged additions of taxpayer protections, stronger oversight, limitations on executive compensation and more protections for people’s bank accounts. I am pleased that these are being added to improve the original bill. It took Congress a while, and there were costs to these delays. But they have awakened to the danger. And today, with the unity that this crisis demands, Congress will once again work to restore confidence and stability to the American economy.
There will be a time to fix the blame for all that has happened — especially in the case of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the abuses and political deal-making that corrupted those institutions. But our duty right now is to fix the problem, and that is the business that will shortly take me back to Washington. Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. Now, with this measure, we have another chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.
If the financial rescue bill fails in Congress yet again, the present crisis will turn into a disaster. As credit disappears, students will no longer be able to get loans for college, and families looking for a new home will be unable to get a loan. New car sales will come to a halt. Businesses will have difficulty securing credit for operations and may be unable to pay employees. If we fail to act, the gears of our economy will grind to a halt.”
~John McCain October 1, 2008
373 Murphy
….Poll shows Obama breaking with a big lead (9 points I think) tonight.
SO, we need to regroup and refocus…..
*******************************************
YES Murphy, starting the minute after the debate is over.
#400 KarenWI…Thank God!!
lipstickmama on 10.01.08 at 10:09 pm
this is what I am talking about. I am so so so so frustrated with both these candidates – their donation lists look exactly the same – here is McCains! Sigh. I am staying home on the first tuesday of November, I think.
Merrill Lynch $298,413
Citigroup Inc $269,251
Morgan Stanley $233,272
Goldman Sachs $208,395
JPMorgan Chase & Co $179,975
AT&T Inc $174,487
Blank Rome LLP $150,426
Credit Suisse Group $150,025
Greenberg Traurig LLP $146,787
UBS AG $140,165
PricewaterhouseCoopers $140,120
US Government $137,617
Bank of America $129,475
Wachovia Corp $122,846
Lehman Brothers $117,500
FedEx Corp $113,453
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $104,250
US Army $103,613
Bear Stearns $99,300
Pinnacle West Capital $97,700
No money for ACORN. That was completed eradicated from the document!!!
#421
OMG I think you’re right! 57 states, no journalists…Now no law!
415 Luckyseven
Whoops, my bad. I usually check that sort of thing on Snopes myself, but I got this from a good friend and *assumed* it was legit. Thanks for the correction.
#422 OSAKA… I have no idea. However, possibly Hannity might show them, LOL. That is, if that McCain blogger was right and they exist….
norma..
ive been one of the strongest mccain palin supporters here on PUMA PAC at times at many others displeasure,that said I am am an optimist but guardedly so..
..
if you see negativity thats because you are negative
I can’t buy they all came together they would not know a statesmen if the fell over one.
#400
Know that sounds like the republican party we know…
Go McCain!
Credit got us into this and credit is going to get us out of it I think not.
439 – red state guy – the same thing just happened to me. i sent out an email because of my source, and then i checked it. i vowed never to let something like that happen again.
Bill O’Reilly said tonight that his show had 6 million+ viewers to CBS Katie Couric show with 3 million viewers for the Palin interview.
Looks like viewers are moving to Fox to get the real story. McCain will have to put a lot of his ads on Fox.
that 9 point lead described earlier is a CBS poll.. NOT a very good indicator..
RCP poll average has it a 5.3 lead by obama after a bad 2 week beating on mccain because of the economy..so you can see mccain is hanging in there within “spitting distance”
#421
Except maybe it’s a banking law, not an actual appropriation.
#437 Thanks for the reassurance!
Osaka, You’re probably right-I’m always trying to see the bright side ’cause it’s hard for me! Very perseptive of you.
norma…
dont worry we have a long way to go 35 days.. so much can happen..lets just keep our fingers crossed..
Must appropriations bill originate in the House? Wikipeida:
Does this bill include an appropriation or is it just more deficit spending?
You know this whole talk about Ohio and early voting and people voting from multiple locations and they, the people, themselves, need to remove their names off the voting list. I think it was in Ohio, there was a clain the GOP said that folks from foreclosed homes would not be able to vote in that district. But once it made the news…it got dropped like a rock. Why would the people from foreclosed homes need to vote from that location? You mean that they could not re-register. I could probably vote twice if I wanted to too but I have to keep my job.
clain=claim
Uploaded to Puma Pac Action Center:
-Excel speadsheet checklist for Senator contacts
-List of Senator Chiefs of Staff Contacts by State
-List of Senator Cheifs of Staff by email, arranged in a block to facilitate mass emailing.
(Often, emailing COS is more effective than emailing Senators directly.)
-Corrected/deleted returned/rejected media email addresses
Added “quote of the day” to Alerts section(NewOrleansPuma. I just had to preserve it.)
I mentioned the PUMA’s in the McCain blog just now and someone asked me about them so I explained… the question also came up if anyone knows an approximate, round number of people who belong to PUMA?
Greta on FOX mentioned her flooded inbox regarding the Ifill situation!!!!
She said to email her “guest” David something or other instead of her–that she got the point. LOL
421 invalidresponse
Spending bills DO have to start in the House and this one did. The Senate just picked it up after it failed to pass. That is acceptable.
Bill O’Reilly said tonight that there are absolutely no provisions in this bill for ACORN. Good news there.
oops
Added Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada newspapers email and fax contacts, provided by UtahPuma
Uploaded to Puma Pac Action Center:
-Excel speadsheet checklist for Senator contacts, provided by carrie and TexasTigress
-List of Senator Chiefs of Staff Contacts by State
-List of Senator Cheifs of Staff by email, arranged in a block to facilitate mass emailing.
(Often, emailing COS is more effective than emailing Senators directly.)
-Corrected/deleted returned/rejected media email addresses, provided by many
Added “quote of the day” to Alerts section(NewOrleansPuma. I just had to preserve it.) provided by NewOrleansPuma
Wondering why as of October 1 the Army will begin to have a brigade dedicated to working on American soil. Not only for acts of war or acts of God (Katrina) but civil unrest and crowd control?
karenWI…
judging from poll stats as to how many former hillary supporters are steadfast NOMBAMA about 10% of democrats.. I would venture to say that there are MILLIONS of people out there who are PUMA in spirit..
DWP
Did you see the first worksheet of the excel file had the media emails with each contact in its own cell for easy copy/pasting?
drive by media I was in a CVS store today and I just happened to glance over and saw a paper called The Globe (I think). “Cindy McCain Addicted to Drugs”. Well, I looked down and below it I saw “The Enquirer”:
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM!! I think that is the title. I laughed as hard as I could. And NO, I didn’t buy either one of them!!
This is just to cheer some of you up – including myself!!
Greta did a fantastic job of challenging Mark of Politico about Gwen Ifill’s conflict of interest in moderating the VP debate. Mark must think the American voters are clueless when it comes to the MSM being in the tank for BO.
Kudos to Greta…………………….
The condescending attitude of the MSM, the DP, and Hollywood reminds me of the treatment that Hillary received during the primaries. Also, all the Puma bloggers that posted on pro-Cupcake websites probably remember all the nutjobs that were constantly attacking us as being a moron or stupid.
Governor Palin is honest. Obama has cheated in the caucuses with the help of the DP, the super delegates, and the lunatic media. He has committed the worst possible offense by stealing this election.
yep millions and millions…..Pumas here there and everywhere.
I think you’re right, the republicans have something. I heard many distraught people call into the Hannity radio show today. They were very depressed about the current circumstances. Hannity seemed to still be very optimistic that things could turn around. I felt like he knew something, but wasn’t telling.
The Enquirer first uncovered John Edward’s affair.
OK, no more playing around. It’s time for the “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Attack Machine” to be brought out and start churning out some good old fashioned “politics of personal destruction” against Obama!!!
Greta’s show’s great tonight supportive of Palin and critical of MSM. Yeah FOX! 35 days to go-Talk and post and email our hearts out!
Good night PUMAs!
Acorn completely OUT. Such good news for Pumas and bad news for Obama and friends.
That is a Puma Victory!
Everyone should be patting each other on the back and naming each others names.
Here is to each and every Puma who sent in a letter, phone call, or email to get ACORN taken out!
Nice job and so proud to be on this message board with you all. Thanks to Murphy for creating this movement and keeping it afloat. Too many really hard working to mention them all but I think you can tell by reading the board each and every day.
look folks..
..worst case scenario obama gets elected-the war doesn’t end november 4th.. thats when it really starts in earnest..this war is far from over.. the fighting has just begun..
Senators who voted No
Here’s the quick list of the senators who voted NO on bailout/economic rescue.
Allard (R)
Barasso (R)
Brownback (R)
Bunning (R)
Cantwell (D)
Cochran (R)
Crapo (R)
DeMint (R)
Dole (R)
Dorgan (D)
Enzi (R)
Feingold (D)
Inhofe (R)
Johnson (D)
Landrieu (D)
Nelson (FL) (D)
Roberts (R)
Sanders (I)
Sessions (R)
Shelby (R)
Stabenow (D)
Tester (D)
Vitter (R)
Wicker (R)
Wyden (D)
How the Senate voted Wednesday on the financial bailout bill (S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424):
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brown (D-OH), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Bunning (R-KY), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
DeMint (R-SC), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Nay
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Only Edward Kennedy did not vote, he’s sick.
#459 Osaka and #463 Tennessee… thank you! I let McCain blog know what you said. What the blogger posted there was uplifting to US and the existence of PUMA, how many there are, and how we are working to not let BO win is uplifting the McCain Blog!
460 Caracal Carrie
I received one spreadsheet. Yes, each was in one cell. The spreadsheet is for is for web forms though.
Asian,
Saving that vote list for posterity in the Action Center.
DWP,
TY
When they both voted for the bailout they both did me in. I always used to say that no cote IS a vote. And now I feel that way again. I’m not voting for any of them.
karenWI..
we have something on our side the DNC Obama don’t..
thats our faith in democracy..
474 Asian4Hillary
Thank you.
brb…I have to send email to my senator for voting NO on that bill.
465 VA-James That’s interesting!! The pictures were not flattering either!! Maybe I should go back and buy it.
Also, on the radio today, it was either Rush or Hannity – George Soros getting with Congress to tell them what “he” wants on the bill!! Anyone know about this????
it doesnt surprise me the senate pushed through the bailout bill so fast.. they are the aristocratic blue blood branch of the government and their interests are more tied in to the ruling financial corporate elite
90 degrees here… feel like i’m melting
#476 Osaka… we have something even stronger on our side… TRUTH.
My email to my senator who voted NO on that bill.
=====
Dear Senator Cantwell,
Thank you very much for voting NO to S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424. It means a lot to me, I was against it, many of us Washingtonians were against it. I guess Patty Murray forgot who sent her to Washington. I will never forget her vote for this bill.
You will always have my support, thank you for standing up for me.
Sincerely,
xxxx
karenwi.. i love that old time 1930′s version of “god bless america” when i hear it it makes me feel sooo good..
PUMA’s – I am out of my lurk mode to say thank you for KICKING the butts of ACORN out the door in the bill that is.
and if you do kick the ACORN butts literally, love to see the video.
And PUMA’s – just wait till this weekend – hopefully Sunday for things to turn around one way or the other.
By Tuesday next I suppose this will take shape clearly and you know why — ALL the daily chores done here by PUMA’s is now the talk of the radio and Fox TV and to tell you another thing – If people didn’t know PUMA and JSND thus far and they were still not for NOBAMA, they are taking the initiative to spread the word around.
So hang on and wait till things unfold next week and the the CHOSEN ONE will start to be hit by a real thunderbolt
kate smith i think her name was who sang it
Does anyone know how the polls are taking PUMA voters into account? I mean, considering some of the PUMA votes for McCain counted as two, are the pollsters including this information?
Jon Stewart is really making fun of Sarah right now. He’s having so much fun doing it that his voices keeps rising to a falsetto. I just turned it off.
A new anti-Obama TV commercial from Democrats for Principle before Party
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
p.s. Good job, AsianforHillary.
Hi Dances, I wish it was 90 degrees here!
gina.. specify what poll youre referring to..
http://justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html
This is such an awesome webpage on JustSayNoDeal with all the ACORN links to obie. Wish I could make it into a flyer, but to fit on an 8.5 x 11″ sheet, the text gets too small to read.
Any good ideas to keep the attractive look, include all and fit into a flyer?
and to continue with my comments I think the Bradley effect, Whoopi effect and POOP Diddy effect and Nancy effect will all take shape to pull NOBAMA out of the lead in the next few weeks
Watch O’Reilly now, talking about the kids singing about Obama. We need to prowl this.. it is so sick and unacceptable to brainwash the kids at their age. They should not be involved in politics – something that even us as adults find repulsive if not for the fact that it affects us all.
John Gibson He’s associated with FOX – this is who was mentioned earlier. Maybe we’ll have another “voice” and someone to send information to.
http://www.foxnews.com/radio/johngibsonradio/
National and State polls.
Today I had a letter from Michelle, one from Chelsea, campaign literature from a local Dem. and an e-mail from an Obama supporter asking me to drive to PA to help get out the vote. I guess they haven’t gotten the message yet.
Oh yesterday, McCain people called but the guy mangled my name and then proceeded to try to tell me why I shouldn’t vote for Obama.
My husband is the Repub. here and he doesn’t hear a thing from McCain altho he has given money. I keep writing them and telling them to sic my husband. I hate campaign callers.
#493 freddiebrown – thank god they are not of voting age now or in 2008 and 2012.
It creeps me out. I just visualize an ungrafted ‘Dangerous Boy’ Michael in the video
493 freddiebrown Freddie, there was a survivor of the Holocaust on Hannity’s radio show today and he cried – said it remembered him of Hitler!!
489 hillstheone
Hi Dances, I wish it was 90 degrees here!
———————-
There’s oxygen in Oregon, so 90 would be delightful there.
=====================
BillieJo
Murphy used that amazing graphic on the blog yesterday.
I had the same thought as you… flyer, but abandoned it because of the great way it is executed… would be great to viral email it though.
lilibet
Did you see Jon Stewart on the Presidential debate though?? I was cracking up! He played a peice that should the million times Obama said McCain is right…Then Stewart said “Obama added “McCain 08!!”
omg I almost fell over!
oops showed***
493 freddiebrown Freddie, there was a survivor of the Holocaust on Hannity’s radio show today and he cried – said it remembered him of Hitler!!
————————————
“reminded him of Hitler!”
Obama has to turn over his vault birth certificate to Berg, according to this post at Hillbuzz:
In the case Berg vs. Obama, the presiding judge today ruled that SoetorObama must turn over to the court a “vault copy” of his original long form birth certificate, with other proof of citizenship.
hillbuzz.wordpress.com
VIA JusticaDocs
On defendant’s Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee’s Motion to Dismiss Plaintifs Complaint………Denied………..
Order of this Court that the following discovery is to be turned over to Plaintiff within 3 days
1. Obama’s “vault”version (certified copy of his original long version Birth Certificate and
2. A certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship
2. A Certified Copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance
Filed September 29, 2008
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal…083/281573/13/
476 osaka puma When you talk about ‘faith in democracy’ please don’t use the word ‘we’. Because I do NOT.
I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be thick headed here …………..BUT ….can anyone give me an example of any other SPENDING BILL that failed in the House and was then “picked up by” and PASSED by the Senate????
thank you in advance
Here’s my response to the gretawire blog in reguards to conflict of intrest for tomorrows debate…
Gwen I fill will profit financially from an Obama, that shouldn’t surprise anyone. I can not think of any one who is backing Obama that isn’t recieving some sort of monetary benifit.
Do you really think Obama could even come close to winning this election if he he had to win it on merit alone. He has no merit, that’s why he has gleaned donations world wide, because earning respect and donations form the people of this country alone certainly would not have paved his way through the primaries, let alone his campaign to the white house…
If O.J. was convicted then recieved a life sentence, then it was discovered that the prosecutor or the judge was a second Cousin to Mr. Goldmen, who that be a conflict of intrest…. Or … Would it be OK because nobody on the defense or the jury knew about it…… A conflict of Intrest is just that a conflict of intrest….. This bull$hit about McCain camp not knowing about it is his loss….. Well that is the ideology of Obama’s, is why so many people don’t trust him…. Because if Obama is benefited by it and it is some what questionable as to how the public might feel about it, he’ll take the benefit from it. Then attempt to erase it (like the anti Obama U-TUBE add’s or his wife’s thesis, his thesis,or his Harvard education). In other what they can find won’t hurt me…. So a conflict of intrest you decide. IMO It is a huge conflict of intrest… But you can’t expect much more when dealing with the bottom of the bucket gutter slime….
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/10/01/what-do-you-think-60/#more-17798
485 LotusBoy
What do you know?
LotusBoy, I have noticed the same thing: what shows up on this board and in the prowls is ending up on Fox. And the people are turning away to Fox. The tide is turning and the work is definitely not wasted time.
I used to feel like I was knocking my head against the wall all day long trying to create clarity out in the crowded message boards filled with abusive Obots. This daily prowl and mass messaging is working much better, even though I do enjoy taking on idiots one on one.
Go Puma!
McCain Palin
Here’s my response to the gretawire blog in reguards to conflict of intrest for tomorrows debate…
Gwen Ifill will profit financially from an Obama, that shouldn’t surprise anyone. I can not think of any one who is backing Obama that isn’t recieving some sort of monetary benifit.
Do you really think Obama could even come close to winning this election if he he had to win it on merit alone. He has no merit, that’s why he has gleaned donations world wide, because earning respect and donations form the people of this country alone certainly would not have paved his way through the primaries, let alone his campaign to the white house…
If O.J. was convicted then recieved a life sentence, then it was discovered that the prosecutor or the judge was a second Cousin to Mr. Goldmen, who that be a conflict of intrest…. Or … Would it be OK because nobody on the defense or the jury knew about it…… A conflict of Intrest is just that a conflict of intrest….. This bull$hit about McCain camp not knowing about it is his loss….. Well that is the ideology of Obama’s, is why so many people don’t trust him…. Because if Obama is benefited by it and it is some what questionable as to how the public might feel about it, he’ll take the benefit from it. Then attempt to erase it (like the anti Obama U-TUBE add’s or his wife’s thesis, his thesis,or his Harvard education). In other what they can find won’t hurt me…. So a conflict of intrest you decide. IMO It is a huge conflict of intrest… But you can’t expect much more when dealing with the bottom of the bucket gutter slime….
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/10/01/what-do-you-think-60/#more-17798
.. something has occurred today thats largely gotten under the radar so far and its a fascinating and positive development when you examine it closer…
despite taking a severe beating on the economy for the past 2 weeks mccain has managed to SWING 5POINTS in the last few days over to him and gained in yet some other vital areas… hes taken a beating on his weakest flank for 2 weeks yet hes still well within strinking distance of obama.. i think thats very telling and something to think about
#492 LotusBoy on 10.01.08 at 11:09 pm
and to continue with my comments I think the Bradley effect,
——————–
More so than the Bradley effect, I am counting on the Republicans to ‘drop a bomb’ on obie at the last minute so his lemmings don’t have time to make a good spin before Nov 4th. They did this every other year, and if they don’t do it this year………………… then no one deserves to be President.
#489 hillstheone
The public needs to see that ad over and over!
Brilliant!
In a ‘democracy’ the representatives of the ‘people’…LISTEN to the people and obey their wishes. I cannot remember the last time I observed that here in this country.
Now we ought to prowl that Berg news to all of the MSM and anyone else we can think of. I want to see how they are going to get out of this. Probably find some other judge to overide or give them a delay, whatever.
487 Correction:
…count as two
not, “counted as two”
By the way, I saw on Yahoo news that Ifill said she has a reputation of fairness and if anyone thinks she is in the tank for BO, they’re racists!!!!
516 atypical
Imagine that!! Being called a racist yet again!
gina.. i believe they count one vote per poll call they make..
#507 hillary2008 – Specifically no I don’t have anything.
Can you believe I also watch some CNN and MSM just to bite my tongue a little. I see them not too spruced up.
Well, the repubs don’t say they are in it to win it
I travel through multiple states and observe people at airports and all the places you can get to see people engaging in some political talk. I see a sizeable portion of people that show little enthusiasm and when prodded with PUMA link and info they come out being more against NOBO.
There has to be an October surprise and I think the money inflow to BO campaign may blow up
Just keeping my fingers crossed
gina.. they count one vote per poll call they make..
osaka puma on 10.01.08 at 11:17 pm .. something has occurred today thats largely gotten under the radar so far and its a fascinating and positive development when you examine it closer…
*************************
Interesting. And that swing just happens to coincide with the restart of his campaign ads after he suspended all activity to focus on the financial crisis.
#491 BillieJo on 10.01.08 at 11:09 pm http://justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html
This is such an awesome webpage on JustSayNoDeal with all the ACORN links to obie. Wish I could make it into a flyer, but to fit on an 8.5 x 11″ sheet, the text gets too small to read.
Any good ideas to keep the attractive look, include all and fit into a flyer?
**************
Can you send me what you want and I will see what I can do for you? coolhj@aol.com
grizzly..
yes,plenty of time for mccain to reqain his footing and start going negative on obama big time..
If you guys wanted to read update of Berg Vs. Obama, read the latest decision by the presiding judge handling the case. Thank you Sylvia.
#503 Sylvia Von Harden
Before I got to excited I went to the Justia link. It is not signed by the Judge.
This is a copy of Bergs response, it is not a ruling as far as I can tell.
Sorry Puma’s..
Can anyone else verify this?
Night all
#522 Hispanic4Hillary – I passed this Nut to an associate that hates the kool-aid anyway and he promised to pass this one to his folks. So there you go!
this berg case is not going away until the obama people show us conclusive proof of citizenship..
even if he wins he could still be impeached later on
People better stop calling me ‘racist’. I might just start believing them.
Let’s see…..
Which race do I believe is the superior race? Ah, yes, Angels are first, of course, and then after that comes…..
the Human Race.
Did anybody listen to Hannity radio today? I heard parts of it…. seemed a lady called in to say that her son (I believe age 17) had been stopped by a BO supporter and got him registered to vote for BO. This caller said she had a hard time getting him to understand that he CAN’T VOTE yet…. in spite of them “registering” him. I wonder how many other underage people have been registered to vote by ACORN and BO operatives…. or dead people or pets. I also think what they did in for the Iraq election would be a good idea (but I rather doubt they’ll do it here)- mark their finger with a permanent ink that won’t come for for several days so they can’t go back in and re-vote.
hehe Mountainsong
namaste
Gone seeing patients all day. Not much accomplished except I got some mean and nasty looks for my “Democrats for McCain” bumper stickers and talked to a few people.
Catching up on news and saw this (PUMAS are the conservatives now? This is one weird election season!) The upside? We know we are definitely being heard.
~~~~~~~~
“Ifill herself has come under criticism as the moderator from some conservativesbecause she is writing a book on blacks and politics, with a chapter on Obama.”
It occurs to me that all the pork in the bailout bill may be calculated to make Congress reject it. Then all the people that voted yes can’t be viewed as not “for” helping the economy and Congress will look bad for not passing it. Politics is a three dimensional chess game after all….
#533 CyberFerret52
Interesting thought. I thought it was so “O” couldn’t slam Mac for not understanding the econ and not wanting to help out main st.
Now they are on level field. One thing Mac could do would be to list the names of every Senator that had pork in the bill.
cyber..sometime we do need a “scorecard” to keep track of all the scams congress runs on us..hehe
Sent to PBS: I am writing to express my belief that Gwen Iliff should recuse herself from the vice presidential debates tomorrow (10.2.2008). I have witnessed her inability to remain objective several times during the primary elections. Having learned she has millions riding on the election of Barack Obama and the innaugural day release and sale of her book “Breakthrough and Politics in the Age of Obama”, PBS MUST remove Ms. Destroyer of PBS, Gwen Iliff, from the vice presidential debates and any future commentary regarding the presidential election. If she shows up as your “beloved goddess of corruption in the USA” tomorrow night, I will vote for McCain (on principle) and I will work 24 hrs a day to destroy funding for PBS.
I’m happy to see that Wyden is consistent in voting no on the bail out.
i hope mccain is like a cat..you throw them high up in the air and they will land on their feet the furry little rascals
They keep on using this “you’re racist” stuff, when real racism strikes, NO ONE would pay attention to it anymore. It has numbing effect on people. If you don’t support NObama you’re labeled racist.
When that happens, the ONLY person to blame is NOBAMA and his supporters. By using the race card against anyone who doesn’t support NObama is making real racist people grin from ear to ear. In fact they like it NObama and his supporters are busy using the race card against anyone who doesn’t drink the koolaid.
This is a big problem for NAACP, Rainbow Coalition and Anti-Defamation League. How are they going to heal the wound NObama and supporters have created in this election? NObama and his supporters just give people the RIGHT to label people with derogatory remarks.
If NObama and supporters has the notion their race baiting will end November 4, they’re WRONG. Guess who’ll get the full brunt of this, the Black community. They’ve just empoweredreal racist people like the Aryan Nation, Skinheads and etc. I feel bad now for some AA who do not take the A train of NObama.
#487 gina613
I don’t think they are counting us at all and that is a mistake!
we need to send letters to all the representatives to vote no on the bill…the senate has voted and now its up to the house….can someone create a letter on the action center in word format? That way I can download it and do the mailmerge and auto e-mail and autofax.
An obot tried to get my son, 17, to go to Ohio to help with registration. He said that he could get credit for school and that he could take a leave. They said that they need people to help with voting, I reported it to the RNC, they have lawyers who will look into claims. I gave them the phone number for the Bot.
I think you might enjoy reading this article about a FL dem who put up a rather unusual anti-obama sign in his front yard and is getting some heat for it:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/10/obama_sign_in_yard_stirs_up_neighbors.html
541 Hispanic4Hillary
If you happen to see the wod doc youre requesting on the blog, would you mind emailing it to: actioncenter@pumapac.org ? That way I can upload it.
Thanks.
The polls are designed to discourage people. They feel that you will vote for the person winning to also be a winner. Obama needs a good ten point lead on election eve to even be close due to Bradley.
#529 mountainsong
NObama and his supporters are playing with fire with their race baiting, there’s hell to pay for this. Watch attack against minorities by real racist people, NObama and his supporters empowered them. It’s back in the 60′s again! People like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson can’t scream foul. They did not bother to stand up against NObama to stop it. People like Clyburn throw his own race baiting rhetoric in the ring!
#543 KarenWI
Priceless, should go together with this other guy: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-moran.htm
Letterman doing top ten about Palin debate, another one I can’t watch anymore. I’ll be readind alot more.
#547 HilaryorSarah…. are you sure this guy was not a BO supporter? LOL. It sounds like the guy in FL in my #543 post should be a PUMA… don’tcha think? He’d fit right in. A Hillary supporter who is upset with how the dem leadership handled that whole affair…. seeing how they are doing the same thing to Sarah. Sound familiar? He’s one of us and doesn’t even know it!
I will wait 3 days to hear the outcome whether obama will
produce a vault copy of his birtth certificate. Holding my breath.
#534 goofsmom
It’s certianly a circle within a circle and a wheel within a wheel. Can make you dizzy sometimes.
#542 hillary2008 – Good deal! Assume for a minute that you are an independent (I consider you HillaryCrat). Would you like this incident to steer you (or your son) toward OBO or away from him. To forcefully do something is a nauseating experience and it is only going to hurt OBO’s drive cause son’s like yours are going to come back upset and that will create a ripple effect.
I am an Asian and let me tell you this – If you tell and American, young or old, to do something he or she would not like, you think they would buy it. So this logic tells me, the dumb vote drive is not going to work and it is only going to be repulsive.
#535 osaka puma
We wouldn’t be able to keep up with it even with a scorecard. It’s unbelievable.
NOBAMA IS THE BEST RECRUTIER FOR REAL RACIST PEOPLE
Way to go NObama and supporters! Continue with your race baiting!
#491 BillieJo on 10.01.08 at 11:09 pm
That is an incredible page! Have you contacted JSND about using it for a flyer? They may have it in a different format.
Here is the link that BillieJo posted on the BO/Acorn associations that Just Say No Deal is working on. It IS awesome work!
http://justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html
——————————–
I feel really distressed about everything that is going on in America today. Really, really, deeply sad about it all.
I so need to shift my energy to the “faith” side of the equation.
Asian4Hillary – Hi!
#551 CyberFerret52
No kidding… I just hope Mac is using his OODA training!
#552 LotusBoy
We Asians are a bit different I think, we smile and nod our head whatever Nobama and his supporters say out of respect for their views, but in the booth where we cast our vote is totally a different matter.
#544 DancesWithPumas on 10.01.08 at 11:49 pm 541 Hispanic4Hillary
If you happen to see the wod doc youre requesting on the blog, would you mind emailing it to: actioncenter@pumapac.org ? That way I can upload it.
Thanks.
********************
#544…I will have to search for it. I just thought that someone had it and could up load it…I just wanted to get a head start on my prowl…
Looks like the House will vote on Friday. Our window of opportunity to kill the bailout bill is closing.
Our phone calls are going straight to unchecked voicemails. Our emails are being rejected or ignored. It is time to take our rights to the next level.
Read the bill the Senate just passed. Tell me: If ever there were a call to action for these times, is it this? Is it now?
It is time to march on Washington.
Hi there lotusboy!
Nite all see ya tomorrow. Yawn…
Goodnight everyone.
I want you to know that I think about this Blog a lot. I believe that everyone that has been on here also really, really cares about our country.
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/
Berg v. Obama
OBAMA MUST PROVIDE A CERTIFIED COPY, LONG VERSION OF HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITHIN THREE DAYS TO THE COURT!!!
Also requested by the court are: A certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship and A certified copy of Obama’s oath of allegiance.
These documents must be provided within three days from now.
I hope the link works so you can check it out, great reading!
Night All!!!
One Love
Talking about inciting the skin heads: I am a librarian and yesterday, for the first time in over a decade, someone came in and asked me why he couldn’t find the Turner Diaries in our library. He and his girlfriend did appear to be of the skinhead persuasion.
Blatantly calling everyone who is not for Obama a racist, will have a very negative effect on ALL people.
Within the past day I read an article stating that the “training” Obama did for ACORN included going to banks and accussing management of being racists, while yelling in their face, in order to force them to give people loans when they were not qualified. Then the second point of the attack was a form of blackmail, they would expose the banks racists practices and cause them to be shut down, etc.
So there was Obama making his way up the ladder, using the word racist and teaching others how to use it effectively to get “change” way back in the early 1990′s. Probably earlier also.
I hope it all comes back to bite him because if it does not, it will certainly continue to hurt the rest of the world.
I’m just tired of giving reasoned points to people who will only respond by calling me a racist, including my mother. (Probably will never get over that one.)
I believe the article I am referring to was one of those listed on the ACORN list at Just Say No Deal.
See the Democracy Alert System
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-democracythreat.htm
BTW, this is funny! My friend’s daughter was enlisted by Nobama people to campaign for him, the girl is 21 still living with her Mom and Dad (asian thing). My friend said on the phone awhile ago, her daughter would do it if they pay her. Her hubby ask their daughter if she would vote for NObama, the girl said to her Dad, ” Dad I may be young, but I’m not stupid, I’ll take the money though”.
My daughter is a student at UCSC and she dutifully reports to me that yes she has seen some Obot activity on campus, but not like last year when it was pretty intense.
Good news is my mother in law in MI has heard all about ACORN, BO and Fannie Mae. She is in her 70′s and is up to speed on all BO’s negatives.
567 Asian4Hillary
LOL!
#558 and 561 Asian4Hillary – Hi, yes. In fact, I see this happening here more than ever. Did you read my travel story from last week. In short, ran up a discussion with 1 West African and another AA at an airport gate. After a couple whites disagreed with them, they came to me and right under the TV (CNN) I told them that press was for OBO and all the press is stupid. Made a few PUMA points and noticed silent people around that did not react or giggled inwardly or just feigned as if they did not hear anything but actually seemed to know PUMA stuff. So they are going to go there and pull the lever for John and make the Gwen book sell for 20 cents on Jan 20th… Wish to wait for such a day.
#564 DaddysDarlin:
Berg may have filed these docs but it doesn’t appear that the Judge has signed the Order for Obama to produce the docs?
Hillary2008, great job calling it in on the abuse of your 17 year old. I hope thousands of parents do the same. I wrote last night that if any of my kids were peer pressured to get on a bus to vote for Obama I would consider it coercion.
CARRIE,
No, I didn’t see Jon and the Presidential debates. It sounds so funny so I am sorry I missed it.
#569 rlp33 – I laugh with you on that. Actually it is an Asian thing. Take the money given to you and give back what you should (voting the other way). I call it the reverse Karma effect – To explain – the money gets to the campaign from common people or from not so good means. Bad Karma. The person that takes the money gets some bad karma and reverses it by using the money but failing to vote to the giver.
ACTION :
I think we should send the video clip of the singing Obama kids to all our friends and foes. Do a bit of reverse psychology.
Say what beautiful voices these children have, barely 5 years to 12 years; how incredibly comforting it is to know that they love our future LEADER so much, that they are singing in their best angelic voice. Obama is right, we should start them young, before they learn to think for themselves..
That’s the kind of leader I want my children to follow.
They do that in countries like N. Korea, China during Mao’s time and Iran, countries like that..Go Obama !!!
#570 LotusBoy
You’re right, even Mexicans are not enamored with Nobama. Just today, a mexican guy came over to fix my dishwasher (water is not draining properly), I asked him if he’s registered to vote, he said yes and he’s a democrat. I asked him if he’ll vote for NObama. His reply was, “No Señorita, blacks hate us, only McCain for Presidente”. When I change my carpet last May, those guys are all young in their 20′s, they’re against NObama; one of them is attending college (part time) he said to me he doesn’t like it NObama is using the race card. There’s something that stayed on my mind, he said; “Obama give me the right to hate people that doesn’t look like me.” Scary huh?
Nighty nite, CARRIE.
BONNE NUIT!
Aisian4Hillary
If he is registered to vote, he is NOT a Mexican. It is proper to call him a Mexican American, but wouldn’t it be great if we could all be just Americans?
#576 Asian4Hillary – Yes, I sense that repulsiveness and I am trying to keep people optimistic here.
And the prowls done in spanish, the OBO ads in spanish etc have only added their avoidance of the chosen one.
The chosen one does not believe in coalition (with anyone) otherwise I would not have been blogging here (HRC would have been the deserving nominee) But that is history. We have to keep hitting the points for 5-6 weeks until we get to the finish line.
OK, good night. Tomorrow hopefully will be a great PUMA day and the tide will turn if Biden will be himself (Gaffe machine)
I’ve taken this from a Gretawire’s comment
Comment by McCainiac
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 am
Comment by Tammy
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 am
Under Hitler term? or Fidel Castro? get real.
————————————————————————————————————
Tammy, please read this, it’ll scare you.
The following letter appeared in Letters to the Editor in the
Richmond Times Dispatch, Richmond, VA on July 7, 2008.
It’s well written and worth thinking about during this political season.
Beware Charismatic Men Who Preach ‘Change’
Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice.
On June 30 I celebrate my independence day and on July 4 I celebrate America’s.
This year is special, because it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.
On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba and a few months later I was in the
United States to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day
is just part of the story, but I digress.
I’ve thought a lot about the anniversary this year.
The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what
transpired there. In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change,
and they were right. So when a young leader came along,
every Cuban was at least receptive.
When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the
old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his
friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the
farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all,
everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all,
everyone said “Praise the Lord.” And when the young leader said,
“I will be for change and I’ll bring you change,” everyone yelled, “Viva Fidel!”
But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner’s guns went
silent the people’s guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal,
they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received
their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed,
it was too late, because they were now working for him.
By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a
couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over
more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes.
You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most
fortunate Cubans. And now I’m back to the beginning of my story.
Luckily, we would never fall for a young leader in America, who promised
change without our asking, what change? How will you carry it out?
What will it cost America?
Would we?
Manuel Alvarez Jr. Sandy Hook, VA
Bears Repeating:
187 NewOrleansPuma on 10.01.08 at 7:41 pm
“…He is an empty void, an amoral soul, who has usurped all the language of the high minded, the idealistic, and those who seek excellence. This is the most dangerous reality of all. Why..he is a fraud in every dimension. And why he must be defeated. ..the biggest lie perpetrated on the American people in the history of the country…”
576 Asian4Hillary
That reminds me when volunteering for Hillary in El Paso and .
Most of the people are mexican, so when we asked them who they were voting for, they replied
“Por la Señora” in reference to Hillary.
580 lilibet
We say Mexicans, because many of us are american citizens by naturalization.
And to distinguish the different ethnias and their preferences for the candidates.
It would be better to use the word latino…reason being that not all are mexicans…there are some puerto ricans, salvadorians, hondurans, argentineans, etc..some get offended if you call them mexicans…and some are hispanic born in the U.S.A…
The term remains incorrect. I taught in Brownsville Texas for 14 years and would never have thought of calling my students or fellow teachers Mexican. Latinos, perhaps, but not Mexicans.
The guy was Mexican, from Yucatan Peninsula. I mentioned to him I’ve spent over three months vacation in Mexico (Isla Mujeres) in the state of Quintana Roo.
ElyLos Angeles
I am a German, Irish, English, Dutch, French American. Some of my relatives came over on the boat, The Mayflower. We’re all immigrants, except for the indigenous people, that is.
good morning pumas¡¡¡¡
ok…then if he was a true mexican then I dont see anything wrong with it…youre in the clear…hahahah
#584 ElyLos Angeles
I can relate with Mexicans easily, my mother side of the family are spaniards from Barcelona. My grandma used to wear a veil with a comb to hold it in place made out of tortoise shell and she always carry her abanico wherever she goes. Growing up we always pray in latin during “oracion” then grandma always wake me up at 4am to do the rosary. Not easy growing up Catholic.
35 years ago, I had a vision. In it, I saw the end of life as I knew it. And the end of life as WE have known it.
I just woke from a dream a few minutes ago. In it, I realized that vision of long ago came true….today.
Mark my words….when a ship starts to sink….the rats all jump first.
What about a letter of intoduction that we could pass on to people who have McCain signs in thier yard? We may have diffences but it might help to introduce others. Just a thought.
It’s OVER!!!
What is Over
#591 Hispanic4Hillary
Thank you……hahahaha!!!!
Hello Storyteller, hi there Henry!
#596 mountainsong
I refuse to believe “it’s over”… If we quit, it may be over but we HAVE NOT quit. I believe good will triumph over evil.
Asian stocks fall despite Senate rescue plan vote
I just got off the phone from my 80 year old mother who lives in Fl, she said MO called her today and registered her to vote so she doesnt even have to leave the house.She was all set to vote for BOZO just because she thought she got a call from MO………..sshheeshhhhh!
Asian stocks fall despite Senate rescue plan vote
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_bi_ge/world_markets
They know the truth also.
i feel that mrpimpproverty & his thugs had damaged ,used(for their own purpose,not for the well being of the community) and malportrayed the AA community
HELL NO IT is Not over
i am here until the bitter end and i think I am in great company
599 notfollowinthepiedpiper
I do, too….but THIS has to happen first.
#599 notfollowinthepiedpiper, mountainsong
There are millions of us patriotic Americans who love this country more than the party. Our fight (PUMA) is actually not for us, but for future Americans. Our gift to future generation.
Yes, good will always triumph because the good people of this country will never allow evil to flourish.
I agree henry.we keep on running..
Believe me!!! Things are NOT going to get better in the foreseeable future. Best be thinking ‘survival’.
And if you believe in faith…use it.
604 henry (smiles)
mountain do you believe in faith?
610
gonna hit the gay bars again in Pittsburgh
my arsenel has Mcclurkin, not wanting to be photographed with newsome, flip flopping on don’t ask don’t tell and his abscence in CA about gay marriage. Any and all additional points I’d love to share.
589 atypical
Sorry,
But Mexicans were here before, remember CA was part of Mexico.
#602 mountainsong
The bailout has no effect. In fact the bailout scares the shit out of millions of people, they don’t like where this country is heading. The Democratic Party is like a mother who doesn’t want to discipline her child, instead of sending the child to his room, she give in to her child’s wishes just to have peace.
Malversation of funds by private corporations will continue, politicians will continue lining up their pockets. What should have been done is to write regulations to prevent another financial disaster, but the democratic lead Congress and Senate opted to use a band-aid for a gaping wound that requires 100 stitches. This is the problem of the Democratic Party, they’re shortsighted when it comes to economics, they’re for quick relief but no long range planning. They’re good in delivering promises to people during election time, after election screw those promises!
#605 mountainsong
Sorry, NOT on my watch!
592 Asian4Hillary
My hubby is from Spain.
I love to be there!!!!
#470-Asia4Hillary: got home late. just breezed through as many comments as possible tonite, but yours made my day.
THANK YOU SENATOR RON WYDEN FROM OREGON! You’ve always had the guts to stand up for the little guy and you make me proud.
I only wish there were more like you up on the Hill.
Will definitely be sending Senator Wyden a letter signed “Proud PUMA”.
I don’t know if I believe in faith, but I like to work at being successful until I fail.
This one is tough, I have a gut feeling that Obama has the upper hand. I am also a realist but I refuse to give up until the fat woman sings.. Sounds like something we went through with Hillary.
WHOOPSSSSSSSSS THERE IT IS!!!! Joe Biden…….THE GAFFE MACHINE!!!!
Have a read…this would make you laugh.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081001/D93HUR1G0.html
I am losing faith in everything and more and more in the candidates.
I was finally convinced to vote for McCain, but he seems to soft to Obambi. I wonder if he is not drinking the kool- aid
LOL
601 tennaseepuma
Did you know the BOBO people go to pick up the voters who can’t drive or have no car to take them to the polls.
I wonder where is he getting so much money to pay for all those expenses.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
#620 ElyLos Angeles
“I was finally convinced to vote for McCain, but he seems to soft to Obambi. ”
~~~~~~~~~
Have you ever seen a cat stalk a mouse it knows is cornered? First it crouches down and watches, then it plays with it a little batting it around and scaring the you-know-what out of it, then he pounces and has it for dinner! Then sits back to lick his paws and purrr. I think McCain’s just getting started. Wait for the pounce.
Ron Weyden: 1 of only 25 Senators who voted NO on the Bailout. Here’s his statement:
Washington, DC— U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) issued the following statement today on Congressional action to address the nation’s financial crisis:
“The serious threat to the nation’s financial system requires Congress to act as wisely and as quickly as is practical. But that doesn’t mean Congress should act recklessly.
Unless we address the underlying faults in the system that brought us to this financial abyss in the first place, we may simply be building the world’s largest bridge to nowhere.
We have to make certain that at the end of this bridge is a functioning financial marketplace, where the profits of the few no longer endanger the long-term economic welfare of the many. We also have to be sure that there is independent oversight and accountability. There is way too much taxpayer money at stake to give one person total, unreviewable authority over how the money is spent.
The Bush Administration is asking taxpayers for an extraordinary amount of money. Congress must be certain that the Administration’s proposal is the best approach possible at the lowest cost to the taxpayers. I’m not convinced that the Bush proposal meets that standard. I agree with a number of my colleagues that we need a comprehensive solution that addresses the underlying cause of the financial crisis – the foreclosures on main streets and side streets — as well as the need to calm worldwide financial markets.
I also think that when taxpayers are asked to pay hundreds of billions of dollars for bail outs, they should get a fair return on their investment. All of the benefits shouldn’t go to bankers, brokers and billionaires. But under the Bush Administration’s proposal, the financial institutions not only get quick cash to shore up their finances, they also get all the upside return on the taxpayers’ money. Meanwhile, the taxpayers get all the risk along with a pile of bad debt that may or may not get paid sometime in the future.
Essentially, the Bush Administration’s proposal socializes the costs and risk of the bailout and privatizes the return. I don’t think that’s the best deal we can get for the taxpayers, especially when compared to the AIG bailout just last week. In exchange for bailing out AIG, the Federal government and the taxpayers got 80 percent of the stock in return. So if AIG returns to profitability, taxpayers will get a fair share of the profits. I will be looking at the AIG solution and other approaches to ensure that taxpayers get benefits and not just bills from any bailouts.”
…guess Senator Weyden saw that the AIG solution and other approaches didn’t ensure that [us] taxpayers would reap any benefits from the bailout.
CNN is saying 50+ and seniors are swing towards BO because they are worried about their 401K. How do you get this group to realize they’re changing their vote to the candidate that helped cause this mess.
#555 wontbackdown
I feel really distressed about everything that is going on in America today. Really, really, deeply sad about it all.
I so need to shift my energy to the “faith” side of the equation.
=============
I know how you feel, and it’s because nothing good has happened in a very long time, and each day…we are more amazed by more depressing drama. We keep picking ourselves up by the boot straps, but those darn straps are wearing really thin by now.
#622 notfollowinthepiedpiper
I hope you are right.
But after what happened with Hillary….
I have received 2 invitations to have a meeting with her to pay her debt. ??????? the minimum 150 per person.
I thought that was over.
#624 gina613
FLYERS in the Senior Citizens Centers.
As BillieJo said the one in JSND is perfect.
I tried a few minutes ago to see if I could resize, but I couldn’t. But is really GOOD.
resize it
623 Hill4me
He is a smart Senator.
This made me mad… to think that this bailout money is going to bail out foreign companies.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/the-real-reason-for-the-bailout-hint-foreigners/
I just left a message for my congressman. You can call the congress house and leave messages for your congressman through this central number
1-202-224-3121
I still don’t think the fox should have been in charge of the hen house. Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Obama, etc… none of the Dems have earned the trust or the right to draft this bill. The bill should be stopped and one from scratch should be drafted by people that understand the market and the best means to fix this. I hate to say this but the Republicans seem to know what to do better than the Democrats. I want the Rep. to draft a bill not Dems.
TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT
> DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN’T
> EXACTLY CORRECT. Obama’s Not Exactlys: 1.) Selma
> March Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe
> enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your
> birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Selma’
> for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its
> various untruths.) 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT
> EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went
> on to work with the Kenyan Government. 3.) Father Was A
> Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of
> the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
> 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – NOT
> EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence
> in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in
> Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in=2 0decades.
> The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to
> overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your
> half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga’s follower. You
> interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to
> Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for
> verification of that….and for more.. Obama’s cousin
> Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia
> Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections,
> his followers have burned Christians’ homes and then
> burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church
> where they took shelter. Obama SUPPORTED hi s cousin before
> the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga
> and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth. 5.)
> My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – NOT EXACTLY,
> she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own
> interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow
> her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. 6.) My Name is
> African Swahili – NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and
> ‘Baraka’ (from &nb sp;which Barack came) means
> ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic
> and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black.
> If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President,
> not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50%
> Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and
> 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack
> Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father
> ‘s family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama’s
> father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his
> father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab,not
> African Negro). From….and for more….go to……
> http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtm
> l?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%_African
> 7.) I Never Practiced Islam – NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it
> daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and
> kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you
> change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article
> ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in islam”
> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
>
> 8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – NOT EXACTLY, you
> were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in
> Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
> February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year
> ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call
> to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a
> remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give
> Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call
> to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at
> sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is
> talking about when she says ‘Obama’s narrative is
> being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash
> troubling facts.’ 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – NOT
> EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
> 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign
> Experience – NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6
> to10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you
> learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons?
> 11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – NOT EXACTLY, except
> for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise),
> you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus
> have NO experience with ou r closest allies. 12.) I Blame
> My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – NOT EXACTLY, you
> were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama; no
> mention of Kenya and no mention of a struggle to identify -
> your classmates said you were just fine. 13.)An Ebony
> Article Moved Me To Run For Office – N OT EXACTLY, Ebony has
> yet to find the article you mention in your book. It
> doesn’t, and never did, exist. 14.) A Life Magazine
> Article Changed My Outlook On Life – NOT EXACTLY, Life has
> yet to find the a rticle you mention in your book. It
> doesn’t, and never did, exist. 15.) I Won’t Run On
> A National Ticket In ’08 – NOT EXACTLY, here you are,
> despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough
> experience by then, and you are all about having experience
> first. 16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois
> Senate – NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many
> others have 130 NO VOTES. 17.) Oops, I Misvoted – NOT
> EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and &nbs
> p;Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote. 18.) I Was
> A Professor Of Law – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer
> ON LEAVE. 19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – NOT EXACTLY,
> you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 20.) Without Me, There
> Would Be No Ethics Bill – NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t write
> it, introduce it, change it or create it. 21.) The Ethics
> Bill Was H ard To Pass – NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days
> from start to fin ish. 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill -
> NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for it
> s pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of
> your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
> 23.) I Have Released My State Records – NOT EXACTLY, as of
> March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet
> to be released, exposing all the special interests pork
> hidden within. 24.) I Took On The Asbe stos Altgeld Gardens
> Mess – NOT EXACTLY, you were par t of a large group of
> people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention
> anyone else but yourself, in your books. 25.) My Economics
> Bill Will Help America – NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic
> policies were just ;combined into a proposal which lost
> 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill. 26.) I Have
> Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – NOT EXACTLY, even your own
> supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
> 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – NOT EXACTLY,
> they were not YOU R bills, but rather were handed to you,
> after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a
> future bid for higher office. 28.) No One on my campaign
> contacted Canada about NAFTA – NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian
> Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation
> your campaign had with them. 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism -
> NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on
> terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the
> destruction of Israel. ;30.) I Want All Votes To Count -
> NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide. 31.) I Want
> Americans To Decide – NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that
> limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and
> operate only during small windows of time. 32.) I passed
> 900 Bills in the State Senate – NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26;
> most of which you didn’t write yourself. 34.) I
> Don’t Take PAC Money – NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it
> . 35.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – NOT EXACTLY, you have
> over 47 lobbyists, and counting. 36.) My Campaign Had
> Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – NOT EXACTLY, your own
> campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
> 37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – NOT EXACTLY, you
> weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted
> to fund it every single time. 38.) I Have Always Supported
> Universal Health Care – NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all
> to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
> 39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp – NOT
> EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russian Army
> did the liberating. Tuesday, May 27, 2008 Obama’s
> ‘Not Exactlys’.
#624 Gina613: “CNN is saying 50+ and seniors are swing towards BO because they are worried about their 401K. How do you get this group to realize they’re changing their vote to the candidate that helped cause this mess.”
hey, I’m one of those 401K’ers and was hoping I wouldn’t have to keep working ’til I’m all bones (even though I happen to love what I do.) To answer your question though, that demographic is about 30-50% computer dependent. Blogs and online research, articles posted, etc. just don’t work for the seniors. But phone calls, flyers and especially one-on-one verbal communication is probably the most effective. If any Pumas can visit any Senior centers or retirement living neighborhoods in your area that might be a good place to start the dialogue.
Just a thought.
WHOOPS.TYPO….To answer your question though, that demographic is about 30-50% NOT COMPUTER DEPENDENT. ….”
guess it’s getting late…need to get some zzzzz’s
des moines register doesn’t think Obama wanted to teach sex ed to kindergarten, they think McCain is lying
Playing at a theatre near you
NEW GAME CHANGER VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ
“Covering your Fannie, Who really caused our economic crisis”
Send it to EVERYONE you know.
Just don’t sent it to politicians or media, that’s how they get banned! It’s tempting, but keep it grassroots!
You might LOVE this video even more than the first
Watch the whole thing, it’s got over 66,000 hits and well worth watching…you’ll love it…I promise RFLMAO
At first it starts out like the other, but the ending half is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Copy and paste the sex bill to Des Moines and link the text.
I’m one of those seniors and I think Obama is scarier than anything else on this planet.
Fact of the matter is, I am sick of supporting a bunch of people who have never worked while I have worked my entire life. And thanks to Obama, it will keep on for the rest of my life.
Could we please get rid of these people who insist on taking our money to support everyone else? I don’t mind a donation but this is almost a third of my paycheck every two weeks. And Obama wants to make it more no matter what he says. Just like Jon Corzine in NJ, he wants to get at your money in different ways so he can support the world, then he can be King/Savior/Beast of the world.
This is not the time to slack off and give up. My kids and grandkids deserve better efforts from this generation of voters. I deserve better, you deserve better, and so does each and every American deserve better than what will happen if Obama is allowed to work out his parents impact on his life by being president. Just because your parents and grandparents liked Communism and socialism, it does not mean you get to impose it on everyone else by lies, voter fraud, international financing irregularities and hanging out with known criminals who managed to get off and taught you how to abuse the freedoms offered in the U.S.
Obama would have been in prison years ago if he had not learned how to successfully cry “racist”.
Like his friend Bill Ayers, he got off scot-free. It is time that someone ended that and I think only Pumas are up to it. Everyone else is too afraid.
@ Sandipuma
43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side.
———-
Please take this racist crap somewhere else. There are so many issues obama is wrong on, why bring this up?
HillaryOrSarah i will say what i feel and if you don’t like it to bad. This was a News weiter and it is not racist. Whats the matter you in love with BO?????
I think the heritage of a presidential candidate is interesting if it is doubtful. Obama professes to be black but most people would claim they were Arab/White American with his heritage…I don’t know of anyone that takes the least significant lines in their heritage to make it their identity. I have to find this curious. It is almost like he is using it for a purpose. And why wouldn’t he want to be thought of as Arab? Why not celebrate your heritage. I keep thinking he has some internal identity problem, its like he doesn’t want to be who he is, and is trying to disown himself…it’s crazy and weird. What’s racist about talking of peoples heritages and the countries their ancestors come from?
Collecting information to support sex ed for K
Media coverup-proof that Barack Obama wanted sex education for kindergarteners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv3NgEYQ3pU
Does Barack Obama favor sex educationn for kindergarteners?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNqyt2vac4E
google: sb99 illinois
This is from John McCain’s website:
Defending Their Candidate’s Comments, The Obama Campaign Issued Document Citing Sex-Education Curriculum For Kindergarteners From The SIECUS And Oregon Department Of Education. “In addition, he issued a document showing that the Oregon Department of Education has guidelines for sex education for children in grades K-3 (which includes understanding the difference between a good touch and a bad touch), and that the Sexuality Information And Education Council of the United States [SIECUS] has curriculum for those in kindergarten.” (”Obama And Sex Ed For Kids,” NBC News’ “First Read,” firstread.msnbc.msn.com, Accessed 7/19/07)
Obama spokesman Bill Burton referred to the SIECUS as a model for age appropriate curriculm.
I recieved this in an e-mail, and thought why are we paying the politicians when we the people have no problem finding an easy fix for the financial woes of today>>>
What if?
Dear friends;
I’m against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,0 00 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 ( ‘vote buy’ ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Sure it’s a crazy idea that can ‘never work.’
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.
And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Now this is a plan I can support.
T Bower
Concerned American Citizen.
I went to look at the Des Moines register for this article about the sex education bill. I couldn’t find it, but I found the following instead. It is a terrific interview of John McCain. Maybe it should be sent along with the Covering Your Fannie etc. Watch this.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/NEWS09/80930049&s=d&page=12#pluckcomments
Watch the new propaganda narrative being concocted:
Obama was always a leader in this, so stop saying that!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/rewriting-the-narrative-obama-was-too-a-leader-so-stop-saying-that/
A good explanation of the financial mess.
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
Good morning Pumas!
I just heard on local news that LaTourette and Kucinich both have said they still do not support the bail out bill. They said just because it is coming back to congress does not mean it will pass!
…
>> HELLO >>
.”". .”",
| | / /
| | / /
| | / /
| |/ ;-._
} ` _/ / ;
| /` ) / /
| / /_/\_/\
|/ / |
( ‘ \ ‘- |
\ `. /
| |
| |
Lol, what is that 646 LandiPUMA?
It looks like a cat stretched out with paws at the top lol!
McCain is going to be on Fox telling why he voted for the bail out bill last night.
Good morning, fox and friends is having McCain on again today to explain why he voted for the bailout plan. I guess at least I’ll give him credit for coming on the shows unlike chicken sh*t BO who hasn’t been on any shows in a week.
This bill might mean that we would be bailing out other countries!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqIFoBXGizc
Good Morning Pumas
Every day seems so hectic. Another one ahead.
#641 jallen0347 on 10.02.08 at 4:29 am
do the math
Correct is $425
wrong is $425,000
this is a joke that spreads like a super virus. It only makes people angry. it is false math.
Coming up on fox taking about double standards, why isn’t Joe Biden being questioned or talked about saying he was shot at and Hillary was dragged through the mud over it.
#639 nhforhillary on 10.02.08 at 4:09 am
the problem as I see it is not so much that he embraces being black as much as the fact that he abandons being white. he hates the white power structure of america. he wants to see that destroyed.
Bobby Fischer is a classic example of a person who was half jewish and hated jews with an uncontrollable verbal passion. Something snaps in some people. obama lives in a fantacy world. I like the description of him being narcissistic personality disorder. that seems to hit him. hitler and other world leaders of destruction had the same narcissistic personality disorder. he is the most dangerous person possible. imagine if hitler were leader of america.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76552
Does Obama have NPD?
When does the House vote on the bill?
I just faxed Sen Nelson (FL) and thanked him for voting against the bailout bill. I am disappointed in McCain, I think as a supposed maverick he should have stood his ground. The bill is laden with pork. The reason this bill even came up in the senate is because Hillary suggested it. I’m disgusted with all the candidates but am forced to vote for McCain to keep Obama out.
#653 Slyt2 Also, what about Biden’s gaffe on the 1929 crisis being on tv? The media is in the tank for the Dems. I just hope Sarah does well tonight, she looked like a scared rabbit on Couri’s show. I don’t understand why she keeps going back and don’t know why McCain had to be with her. I believe she needs to know the facts but still Sarah needs to be Sarah. They are trying to “washingtonize” her and that is not what got her where she is today.
#655 Stoney42 I believe I heard that it was at 9:am this morning. I already faxed my congressman and told him to vote no.
No one has asked Obama what newspapers he reads ot keep informed. that question was a low blow set up on Palin. What a super dirty question. no matter how she answered she would lose.
The house is not suppose to vote until noon tomorrow.
ladyhawkke The Bailout was a “gotcha” on McCain because part or most of his original bill to control Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac is in the new proposed one. He would have had to vote against himself.
I honestly don’t think Pelosi will allow this to go ahead the way it is though. I’m so confused!!
Oh I know ladyhawkke it makes you sick, I only heard about the tv gaffe on fox news and only heard it one day. They all say that’s Joe he is know for saying goofy things like that. Did anyone hear what that Gwen said last nite about the her being the host for tonights debate.?
SLY BOOTS
So, tonight Palin will debate Biden with a BO biased moderator and it looks like the Pork Bill will pass. Is everybody disappointed in McCain? I say yet to be seen. Consider:
There has been enough attention placed on the moderator so that if she favors Biden, people will cry “foul” on the whole deal.
The Pork bill makes it more necessary to have a president who will minimize the abuses.
Have a nice day.
1gypsy4mc
I think everyone is confused – including the members of Congress.
I LOVE good old Fred.
CBS cut him off when started talking about Gwen’s book.
How funny is that. She kept trying to cut him off and saying we have to go and he just kept on talking. Asking about Gwen’s book and how maybe CBS should show some of his mistakes Biden had made?
GOOD MORNING PUMAs!!!!!
stoney42 Well, I have to work again today, but after that I’m going to be working even harder. Even the news said yesterday that the country is going socialist. I still have alot of prowls to complete and I do some of my own every morning before going to work.
Nothing’s going to be decided on the Bailout until tomorrow, which will deminish anything Palin or Biden do tonight and the people will forget about it.
major confusion ahead today Folks.
Rule Number One: Ignore the polls. The political situation is just too fluid and volatile for anyone to get an accurate read on where the electorate’s head is.
Good Morning, Murphy! Do you ever sleep?
Good Morning Pumas
Sorry if this has already been posted. The Senate passed a bailout plan. Here’s the vote:
Akaka, Daniel K.D-Hi.Yes
Alexander, LamarR-Tenn.Yes
Allard, WayneR-Colo.No
Barrasso, JohnR-Wyo.No
Baucus, MaxD-Mont.Yes
Bayh, EvanD-Ind.Yes
Bennett, Robert F.R-UtahYes
Biden, Joseph R., Jr.D-Del.Yes
Bingaman, JeffD-N.M.Yes
Bond, Christopher S.R-Mo.Yes
Boxer, BarbaraD-Calif.Yes
Brown, SherrodD-OhioYes
Brownback, SamR-Kan.No
Bunning, JimR-Ken.No
Burr, RichardR-N.C.Yes
Byrd, Robert C.D-W.V.Yes
Cantwell, MariaD-Wash.No
Cardin, Benjamin L.D-Md.Yes
Carper, Thomas R.D-Del.Yes
Casey, Robert P., Jr.D-Pa.Yes
Chambliss, SaxbyR-Ga.Yes
Clinton, Hillary RodhamD-N.Y.Yes
Coburn, TomR-Okla.Yes
Cochran, ThadR-Miss.No
Coleman, NormR-Minn.Yes
Collins, Susan M.R-MaineYes
Conrad, KentD-N.D.Yes
Corker, BobR-Tenn.Yes
Cornyn, JohnR-TexasYes
Craig, Larry E.R-IdahoYes
Crapo, MikeR-IdahoYes
DeMint, JimR-S.C.Yes
Dodd, Christopher J.D-Conn.Yes
Dole, ElizabethR-N.C.No
Domenici, Pete V.R-N.M.Yes
Dorgan, Byron L.D-N.D.No
Durbin, RichardD-Ill.Yes
Ensign, JohnR-Nev.Yes
Enzi, Michael B.R-Wyo.No
Feingold, Russell D.D-Wis.No
Feinstein, DianneD-Calif.Yes
Graham, LindseyR-S.C.Yes
Grassley, ChuckR-IowaYes
Gregg, JuddR-N.H.Yes
Hagel, ChuckR-Neb.Yes
Harkin, TomD-IowaYes
Hatch, Orrin G.R-UtahYes
Hutchison, Kay BaileyR-TexasYes
Inhofe, James M.R-Okla.No
Inouye, Daniel K.D-Hi.Yes
Isakson, JohnnyR-Ga.Yes
Johnson, TimD-S.D.No
Kennedy, Edward M.D-Mass.NA
Kerry, John F.D-Mass.Yes
Klobuchar, AmyD-Minn.Yes
Kohl, HerbD-Wis.Yes
Kyl, JonR-Ariz.Yes
Landrieu, Mary L.D-La.No
Lautenberg, Frank R.D-N.J.Yes
Leahy, Patrick J.D-Vt.Yes
Levin, CarlD-Mich.Yes
Lieberman, JosephI-Conn.Yes
Lincoln, Blanche L.D-Ark.Yes
Lugar, Richard G.R-Ind.Yes
Martinez, MelR-Fla.Yes
McCain, JohnR – Ariz.Yes
McCaskill, ClaireD – Mo.Yes
McConnell, MitchR – Ky.Yes
Menendez, RobertD – NJYes
Mikulski, Barbara A.D – Md.Yes
Murkowski, LisaR – Alas.Yes
Murray, PattyD – Wash.Yes
Nelson, BillD – Fla.LNo
Nelson, E. BenjaminD – Neb.Yes
Obama, BarackD – Ill.Yes
Pryor, Mark L.D – ArkYes
Reed, JackD – RIYes
Reid, HarryD – Nev.Yes
Roberts, PatR – Kan.No
Rockefeller, John D., IVD – WVYes
Salazar, KenD – Colo.Yes
Sanders, BernardI – Vt.No
Schumer, Charles E.D – NYYes
Sessions, JeffR – Ala.No
Shelby, Richard C.R – Ala.No
Smith, Gordon H.R – Ore.Yes
Snowe, Olympia J.R – MaineYes
Specter, ArlenR – Penn.Yes
Stabenow, DebbieD – Mich.No
Stevens, TedR – Ak.Yes
Sununu, John E.R – NHYes
Tester, JonD – Mont.No
Thune, JohnR – SDYes
Vitter, DavidR – La.No
Voinovich, George V.R – OhioYes
Warner, JohnR – Va.Yes
Webb, JimD – Va.Yes
Whitehouse, SheldonD – RIYes
Wicker, Roger F.R – Miss.No
Wyden, RonD – OreNo
Damn Linda Douglass is a mean nasty woman who I believe has a stick lodged somewhere , this is like the fourth time I have heard this woman and she is just always in a mood (just mean always ready to fight).
Last night during the Senate Vote, they were voting Yes, No, and I, does anybody know what the I vote means?
Did you all hear Major Garrett make a formal apology to Palin last nite? He said she never mentioned any of McCain’s bills to Couric……..he came on later and apologized to Palin for using false information.
#671 nope i didn’t hear anything about that ,
vadaryl I have no clue what I means (lol) I really don’t though.
I have tied a small orange ribbon to my watch wrist band. When people ask me about it, I give them a Puma business card.
I believe the “I” you heard was “aye” as in aye, aye Captain, meaning yes.
672 slyt2 He was very nice about it and truly apologetic – he said he was given false information and that he regretted that comment. I’ve always liked him – wish he’d switch sides!
How is this election like the Wizard of Oz? (only backwards)
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/this-election-is-like-wizard-of-oz-only-backwards/
well now gypsy he was given false information hmmm now who would have gave him that (lol). I don’t think he can switch sides isn’t he assigned to cover the BO camp through out the election like Carl whatever his name is covers McCain?
677 slyt2 Yes he’s on the BO campaign, but it was “his” integrity he was trying to save – “not” Palin’s.
John Gibson This is the man that is supposed to be doing FOX News on the radio (new radio show). I haven’t found an email yet so that “we could help him out.”
http://www.johngibson.com/article.php?story=20051205150541290
http://www.foxnews.com/radio/johngibsonradio/index.html
vadaryl- it’s ‘aye’ and that means yes . They actually vote ‘Aye ‘ or ‘Nay’ which translates to Yes and No .
gypsy – gibsonradio@foxnews.com
TexasTigress Good Morning and Thanks
I just added it to my list…….. my computer’s gonna crash one of these days
Young reporter in Ohio said Obama’s campaign was putting homeless people on the busses to vote . I believe homeless should be able to vote , BUT several of those people could not prove that they lived in the state – One was just passing through on his way to Chicago , and the reporter said that the majority of the homeless had no idea where they were or what they were doing ……
that was on fox .
mornin’ gypsy !!!!! It got nice and cool here last night ! Slept with the windows open – woo hooo = did it cool down where you are ?
OMG i totally missed that TexasTigress, well they said that kind of stuff was going to happen. And by the time they find out about it , it would be to late because there vote has already been counted.. What a bunch of bs.
Cool here in NE FL too! Also slept with windows open.
Just sent $10 to The Denver Group for ads against XO.
Have not been on for awhile – have you seen this?
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=158353
Here’s a flashback, 9 years ago:
Fannie Mae gets more generous.
It occurs to me that the basis of all this is PC-ism.
PC lending is as disastrous as PC-anything.
Congress-mandated lending to PC borrowing categories has had the same effect on the financial world that PC-speak has had on language, education and politics: degradation and destruction. As soon as you make circumlocution and avoidance of good judgment the basis for decisions and principles, you are in a steep power dive towards the cold, hard ground.
John McCain coming on fox and friends in about 15 mins (well maybe 12 minutes by now) . Has anyone heard if BO is showing his face anywhere today on any shows?
Morning post up and a NEW POLL!
vote in the poll and comments in the post below.
(my theory is that the polling widget somehow kept goalucard and others out of the threads on Tuesday. This is a test — it is only a test. The results of this test will alter the course of Puma PAC history.)
Take it upstairs, and then downstairs half a floor!
619 Asian;
Yeah, for Joltin’ Joe, any old approximation of the truth is all that’s required. He is truly a terminal case.
Which suddenly reveals to me why O picked B: they both have the same casual, imaginative attitude towards the facts. Trooth is a pliable tool — they clearly agree totally on that. Probably O figgered Hillary wouldn’t be quite as agreeably flexible. Hmmm …
Obama has a show about what he will do for the nation
here in CA its channel 73 its been running continuously for
about 36 hrs.
You must log in to post a comment.