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		<title>By: imustprotest</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-171806</link>
		<dc:creator>imustprotest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did my prowl today as emails instead of phone calls.  Hope that is okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did my prowl today as emails instead of phone calls.  Hope that is okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Micheleeroo</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170926</link>
		<dc:creator>Micheleeroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And remember that he tried to sic the justice department on that radio host who had the gall to feature someone talking about Obama&#039;s relationship with unrepentant terrorost William Ayres. amazing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And remember that he tried to sic the justice department on that radio host who had the gall to feature someone talking about Obama&#8217;s relationship with unrepentant terrorost William Ayres. amazing</p>
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		<title>By: Micheleeroo</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170918</link>
		<dc:creator>Micheleeroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, goodbye free speech. I guess Obama thinks that 1st Amendment thing is overrated, anyhow.

--a republican pal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, goodbye free speech. I guess Obama thinks that 1st Amendment thing is overrated, anyhow.</p>
<p>&#8211;a republican pal</p>
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		<title>By: BrianH</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170844</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianH</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170843</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  the 8) didn&#039;t get switched!  Maybe the comma?  8),</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!  the <img src='http://blog.pumapac.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> didn&#8217;t get switched!  Maybe the comma?  8),</p>
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		<title>By: BrianH</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170840</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#225 TT;
the solution is to leave spaces before the parenthesis.  So 1 ), 2 ), 3 ), ... 8 ), 9 ) instead of 1), 2), 3), ... 8), ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#225 TT;<br />
the solution is to leave spaces before the parenthesis.  So 1 ), 2 ), 3 ), &#8230; 8 ), 9 ) instead of 1), 2), 3), &#8230; 8), <img src='http://blog.pumapac.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bodi1313</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170692</link>
		<dc:creator>bodi1313</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I know  we don&#039;t always like Dick Morris, but you we like this.
MCCAIN&#039;S TRUMP CARD

By DICK MORRIS &amp; EILEEN MCGANN

Published in the The New York Post on September 28, 2008

Printer-Friendly Version

THE DEBATE ARGUMENT HE DIDN&#039;T MAKE - BUT COULD STILL HELP HIM WIN

During Friday&#039;s debate, John McCain assiduously and inexplicably avoided using the issue that might have won him the debate and the presidency: opposition to a taxpayer-funded bailout of the financial crisis.

Congress is about to pass - and the president is about to sign - a bill that the American people detest by 2:1 margins. When Americans realize that there is, indeed, an alternative to handing over $700 billion to financial institutions as a reward for their failure, opposition to the idea will swell even further.

The bailout ideas proposed by the House Republicans and trumpeted by former Speaker Newt Gingrich make eminent sense. Indeed, they make so much sense that it is as if the roles of the parties have been reversed. It is the Republicans who are demanding that the banks and financial institutions pay for their own bailout, granting them only a mixture of loans and premium-paid insurance, while the Democrats want to pass the hat among the taxpayers to buy their dirty paper.

In an unusual act of political foresight and skill, the normally dead-headed House Republican leadership has crafted a platform that can carry the party to victory in November. All that remains is for the Party&#039;s candidate - and perhaps even its president and Treasury Secretary - to get on board. McCain can recover at the negotiating table the economy issue he lost in Friday&#039;s debate. He needs to have the courage of his convictions and insist on a bailout without requiring taxpayer-funded purchase of defunct mortgages from failing institutions.
Order a personally signed, first edition copy of FLEECED from Barnes&amp;Noble.com. Click here now!  The difference in the bailout plans is, of course, largely cosmetic. Dead paper is dead paper whether it is on the books of the government, purchased from banks, or on the books of the banks, insured by the government. The game is the same: Through loans or grants fund the deficient debt service on the defaulted mortgages until homes can recover their value in the cyclical real estate market.

But it makes all the difference in the world politically if this task is accomplished by buying bad debt or by lending the bankers the money to cover their current losses while they keep their bad debts on their books and by insuring them against future losses.

Loans are politically viable. Purchase of bad debt with tax money is not.

The Democrats and our politically-challenged president have failed to appreciate the difference between spending and lending. Treasury Secretary Paulson can be excused for not realizing it. Politics is not his thing.

But John McCain must realize the crucial distinction and must use his leverage to stop a taxpayer-funded bailout, insisting instead on loans and insurance.

If McCain stands firm, the Democrats will either have to pass the bailout package on their own, without Republican votes, and rely on Bush&#039;s signature on the bill to provide a fig leaf of bipartisanship - or they will have to cave in and pass the Republican package.

Either way, McCain comes out ahead.

If he gets his way, he gets credit for the bailout. If he doesn&#039;t, he can spend the campaign attacking Obama and the Democrats for spending $700 billion of taxpayer money.

If the Democrats don&#039;t adopt either course and play a game of chicken with the Republicans, their Congressional status as the majority party dooms them to taking the blame for any ensuing collapse.

Voters can count.

They know that Reid and Pelosi are Democrats and that they control Congress. With this power comes responsibility.

And if the Democrats do nothing - that is they fail to use their majorities to pass a bailout or to cooperate with the Republicans in adopting the GOP version of the package - it is they who will get the blame for the catastrophe which will follow.

The Democrats don&#039;t dare take that chance.

The cards are dealt for John McCain. All he has to do is have the guts to do what he didn&#039;t have the courage to do in the debate: Play the hand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I know  we don&#8217;t always like Dick Morris, but you we like this.<br />
MCCAIN&#8217;S TRUMP CARD</p>
<p>By DICK MORRIS &amp; EILEEN MCGANN</p>
<p>Published in the The New York Post on September 28, 2008</p>
<p>Printer-Friendly Version</p>
<p>THE DEBATE ARGUMENT HE DIDN&#8217;T MAKE &#8211; BUT COULD STILL HELP HIM WIN</p>
<p>During Friday&#8217;s debate, John McCain assiduously and inexplicably avoided using the issue that might have won him the debate and the presidency: opposition to a taxpayer-funded bailout of the financial crisis.</p>
<p>Congress is about to pass &#8211; and the president is about to sign &#8211; a bill that the American people detest by 2:1 margins. When Americans realize that there is, indeed, an alternative to handing over $700 billion to financial institutions as a reward for their failure, opposition to the idea will swell even further.</p>
<p>The bailout ideas proposed by the House Republicans and trumpeted by former Speaker Newt Gingrich make eminent sense. Indeed, they make so much sense that it is as if the roles of the parties have been reversed. It is the Republicans who are demanding that the banks and financial institutions pay for their own bailout, granting them only a mixture of loans and premium-paid insurance, while the Democrats want to pass the hat among the taxpayers to buy their dirty paper.</p>
<p>In an unusual act of political foresight and skill, the normally dead-headed House Republican leadership has crafted a platform that can carry the party to victory in November. All that remains is for the Party&#8217;s candidate &#8211; and perhaps even its president and Treasury Secretary &#8211; to get on board. McCain can recover at the negotiating table the economy issue he lost in Friday&#8217;s debate. He needs to have the courage of his convictions and insist on a bailout without requiring taxpayer-funded purchase of defunct mortgages from failing institutions.<br />
Order a personally signed, first edition copy of FLEECED from Barnes&amp;Noble.com. Click here now!  The difference in the bailout plans is, of course, largely cosmetic. Dead paper is dead paper whether it is on the books of the government, purchased from banks, or on the books of the banks, insured by the government. The game is the same: Through loans or grants fund the deficient debt service on the defaulted mortgages until homes can recover their value in the cyclical real estate market.</p>
<p>But it makes all the difference in the world politically if this task is accomplished by buying bad debt or by lending the bankers the money to cover their current losses while they keep their bad debts on their books and by insuring them against future losses.</p>
<p>Loans are politically viable. Purchase of bad debt with tax money is not.</p>
<p>The Democrats and our politically-challenged president have failed to appreciate the difference between spending and lending. Treasury Secretary Paulson can be excused for not realizing it. Politics is not his thing.</p>
<p>But John McCain must realize the crucial distinction and must use his leverage to stop a taxpayer-funded bailout, insisting instead on loans and insurance.</p>
<p>If McCain stands firm, the Democrats will either have to pass the bailout package on their own, without Republican votes, and rely on Bush&#8217;s signature on the bill to provide a fig leaf of bipartisanship &#8211; or they will have to cave in and pass the Republican package.</p>
<p>Either way, McCain comes out ahead.</p>
<p>If he gets his way, he gets credit for the bailout. If he doesn&#8217;t, he can spend the campaign attacking Obama and the Democrats for spending $700 billion of taxpayer money.</p>
<p>If the Democrats don&#8217;t adopt either course and play a game of chicken with the Republicans, their Congressional status as the majority party dooms them to taking the blame for any ensuing collapse.</p>
<p>Voters can count.</p>
<p>They know that Reid and Pelosi are Democrats and that they control Congress. With this power comes responsibility.</p>
<p>And if the Democrats do nothing &#8211; that is they fail to use their majorities to pass a bailout or to cooperate with the Republicans in adopting the GOP version of the package &#8211; it is they who will get the blame for the catastrophe which will follow.</p>
<p>The Democrats don&#8217;t dare take that chance.</p>
<p>The cards are dealt for John McCain. All he has to do is have the guts to do what he didn&#8217;t have the courage to do in the debate: Play the hand</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170637</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you consider that Obama is all about &#039;getting in your face&#039;, and McCain wouldn&#039;t look at him in order to frustrate him. I think it worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you consider that Obama is all about &#8216;getting in your face&#8217;, and McCain wouldn&#8217;t look at him in order to frustrate him. I think it worked.</p>
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		<title>By: osaka puma</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170619</link>
		<dc:creator>osaka puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>landipuma... most of the people who you will meet rolling a shopping cart out of walmart think puma is a shoe and DNC is a rap group..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>landipuma&#8230; most of the people who you will meet rolling a shopping cart out of walmart think puma is a shoe and DNC is a rap group..</p>
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		<title>By: NikkisMom</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/28/holy-smokes/comment-page-13/#comment-170617</link>
		<dc:creator>NikkisMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useful email addresses in the link for &quot;rumormillnews&quot; below, to send the prowls to (courtesy of a post from http://www.hillaryis44.org/)


http://rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful email addresses in the link for &#8220;rumormillnews&#8221; below, to send the prowls to (courtesy of a post from <a href="http://www.hillaryis44.org/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.hillaryis44.org/)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm" rel="nofollow">http://rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm</a></p>
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