Taking bets this morning. Nobody knows anything about anything, SO let’s assume it’s all a game of chance.
1. Will there be a Presidential debate tonight?
2. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed today?
3. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed at all?
4. Who will benefit politically from this week’s financial turmoil — Obama or McCain?
5. Who will be blamed for whatever goes wrong with the financial markets between now and November — the Republicans or the Democrats?
6. What will Obama say more often — “ummm” or “ahhh”? Dark horse option: “well, look”
All bets FIVE DOLLARS.
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First?
Woot!
Tres!
4?
No Way Carrie – it’s fixed!
Good article on Rangel – short and sweet!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09262008/news/regionalnews/rangel_tangle_130789.htm
#1 No
#2 No
#3 Yes
#4 McCain
#5 Both
#6 umm
Good mourning Pumas
I want to post this be for the dark ages start. lol
Video: The Financial Crisis: Watch It, Email It, Post It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
Here we go….
Obama’s Code Pink Fundraiser Met With Ahmadinejad
September 25, 2008
By Amanda Carpenter
TOWNHALL – Jodi Evans, a founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink and “bundler” for Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Wednesday.
“It’s rare for a head of state to take time during an official U.N. visit to meet with the peace community, especially in a situation where the host government—represented by the Bush administration—is so hostile,” Evans said in a statement. “The fact that the meeting took place and was so positive is, in itself, a major step forward.”
During the Democratic primary Obama came under fire from both his Democratic and Republican foes for promising to meet with Ahmadinejad “without preconditions” if he became president.
At the meeting Evans and fellow Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin offered Ahmadinejad a plan to build a “peace park” in Tehran and invest funds in Iranian businesses “that produce green and sustainable products, such as bicycles.”
Evans signed on to become a “bundler” for Obama’s presidential campaign last June. As a bundler, she has pledged to raise at least $50,000 for his campaign.
150 other “peace group representatives” also attended the event which was held at New York’s Grand Hyatt Hotel. Ahmahdinejad was in the city to address the United Nations.
He also appeared on Larry King Live during his visit.
Source: Townhall
1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. McCain
5. Repubs
6. ahhh
its pretty bad when PUMAS start buying into the main stream medias sexism criticizing sarah and saying shes not intelligent because shes not perfect all knowing computer data base..
1. yes, there will be debate
2. yes, plan passed today
3. yes
4. Mac will benefit
5. Mac will be blamed (Isn’t that always the case?)
6. both “ummm and ahhhh”
couric and the rest of those main stream jackals are always trying to setup sarah for a fall ..PUMAS should know this!
Post from downstairs –
Good Morning, PUMAs. Here’s a link to an article explaining, in simple terms, what the financial problem is. Maybe we should let all the banks fail and do our lending and our borrowing over the internet – cut out the middle man and all those usurist fees….
http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/not-buying-it.php
Also, driving in to work this AM, I heard a Prof. Steven Lawson of Rutgers speak about how white voters who are not voting for BO are not doing so because of some secret racism, but black voters are not voting for him because they are racist, why, they’ve vote for white folk in the past, so therefore they’re not racist…
I emailed a long rant to NPR listing all the reasons why I wasn’t voting for BO and oddly, none of them had to do with race…
1.yes, 2.yes, 3.yes, 4.McCain – but the press will spin it for Obama, 5.”ummm” and “ahhh”
see image at my entry
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/mccain-no-deal-no-debate/
Be back later, I actually have to work, now that I’m at work….
I think everyone gets how the MSM is..those of us who still have reservations probably had them all along. I know I do and I didnt even watch the Katie Couric thing.
1. Will there be a Presidential debate tonight?
2. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed today?
3. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed at all?
4. Who will benefit politically from this week’s financial turmoil — Obama or McCain?
5. Who will be blamed for whatever goes wrong with the financial markets between now and November — the Republicans or the Democrats?
6. What will Obama say more often — “ummm” or “ahhh”? Dark horse option: “well, look”
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. McCain
5. Republicans
6. ahhhhhhhhhh
#480 1gypsy4mc (from downstairs)See that is what I am saying if just one person would just give a fair interview instead of trying to be the one who tripped her up made her look dumb (as some have said) then people could decide on a fair level how prepared she is. I think she is very smart , educated woman but I couldn’t tell you everything she knows because they don’t ask her those important question. It is just stupid.
Sarah Palin comes across as a rookie — NOT as a dummie.
Palin has a LOT to learn, that’s for sure. But she’s clearly very bright, extremely focused, and not intimidated.
She’ll do fine.
i dont have reservations about sarah.. i have full faith she can be an able VP shes a fast learner and intelligent.. as to her lack of experience on the federal level..i would prefer someone who is new and has not developed bad habits rather to some insider hack who has
Picture this:
A split screen tonight on TV-
On one side: Obama “debating” an empty podium, uhhh’ing and ahhh’ing about Iraq
On the other side: McCain on the Senate floor, shirt sleeves rolled up, hammering out the rescue plan
Who wins on image?
1. yes
2. no
3.yes
4.McCain (i hope)
5. Republicans
6.UHHHHHHH
The voice of reason!
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#12 osaka puma on 09.26.08 at 9:18 am
couric and the rest of those main stream jackals are always trying to setup sarah for a fall ..PUMAS should know this!
i dont waste my time watching those main stream obama jackals who i already know are all about promoting obama and taking down mccain palin..
why waste your time on trash like that.. youre better off watching the cartoon network..
1. No
2. No
3. Yes – and we will all be worse off for it.
4. Obama (see #5)
5. Republicans (as always)
6. Wild Card: *blank stare*
hahahaha
That would be priceless!
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#22 kevink on 09.26.08 at 9:28 am Picture this:
A split screen tonight on TV-
On one side: Obama “debating” an empty podium, uhhh’ing and ahhh’ing about Iraq
On the other side: McCain on the Senate floor, shirt sleeves rolled up, hammering out the rescue plan
Who wins on image?
1. not sure
2. no
3. yes
4. McCain
5. Republicans
6. ummmmm
Are we supposed to pay to bet?
Somebody said on another blog (not that I ever go anywhere else, but I got lost one day) that wouldn’t it be cool if McCain appeared for the debates tonite via satellite. That way he doesn’t let down the people but he could still be hard working just take a little time out for the debate.
And there off,..
Stalk market opening bell!
obama is a narcissitic freak.. set up some mirrors at the de-bait and let him at it..
Yes, and even better, while Oboy talks McCain would be working on the bill!!
Bahahaha
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#29 slyt2 on 09.26.08 at 9:30 am Somebody said on another blog (not that I ever go anywhere else, but I got lost one day) that wouldn’t it be cool if McCain appeared for the debates tonite via satellite. That way he doesn’t let down the people but he could still be hard working just take a little time out for the debate.
GOOOOOD MORNING PUMAS!
I – HAD DREAM – I DREAMT THAT MCCAIN WON OHIO, PA & FLORIDA AND THEN WON THE ELECTION. IN MY DREAM I CRIED TEARS OF JOY FOR ALL OF US PUMAS WHO WORKED SOOOOO HARD TO MAKE SURE THIS CLOWN WAS DEFEATED. IT FELT GREAT!
NICE TOO SEE INFO:
Friday, September 26
Race Poll Results Spread
Florida Rasmussen
McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1
Missouri Post-Dispatch/R2000
McCain 47, Obama 46 McCain +1
National GW/Battleground Tracking
Obama 46, McCain 48 McCain +2
WOOHOO – GOOOOO MCPALIN!
HAVE A GROOVY DAY EVERYONE
i would love it if at the debate sean hannity walks out to the stage and challenges obama to a de-bait
More ACORN voter fraud in Florida:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/700310.html
If its close this is how Obama will win.
Good Morning all Pumas…
Here is a great link…
It is a letter from Sen. Coburn of Oklahoma. He has been a fiscal hawk. He refuses to participate in “unanimous consent” on bills that cost us money. He demands time to read them.
http://coburn.senate.gov/ffm/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=b118fae0-c23d-4a8a-a4dd-18a45a9c8e4f
I think this is going to be a “make or break” deal not only for America financially, but also for this election. If McCain can get something through, and quickly, he will win in a landslide. If he can’t… then I’m afraid he will lose. I’m terrified at the thought, but to be honest I’m afraid because I thought McCain would get a compromise bill together and agreed on before this…. The person who puts together a compromise bill and gets agreement on it will win. If that is Obama, then he will win; if it is McCain, then he will win. I hope against hope it isn’t Obama, but considering how many in congress want him in, they may do all they can to help him, even working with him to get a compromise bill together that they “tag” on him and then put it through and tell the people that it was Obama who did it… this scares me… McCain had better get serious and get busy… REALLY busy….. before it’s taken away.
1. Here in Texas most folks won’t notice either way, they’ll be sitting out under the Friday night lights of H.S. football.
2. at the last minute
3. yes
4. McCain
5. the MSM and the DNC will blame Republicans – people with good sense will blame the Democrats and their bewildered leader.
6. I’m guessing “ahhh”
Thanks for that link Silence Ill put it on the web site today.
I think the honest Americans are stuck in a lose/lose situation. The corrupt banking industries in a win/win.
karen… mccain wants whats best for the american people.. hes looking out for them not being taken to the cleaners on this bailout deal..
all the polls show anywhere from 60-90% against a bailout as proposed by paulson..
and mccain is showing leadership by taking the side of caution
#1 NO
#2 NO
#3 YES
#4 BO
#5 McCain
#6 N/A….. We made hamburger helper and I HELPED!
Is it true Sarahcuda is in Mississippi?
#42 HP Boston
#6 N/A….. We made hamburger helper and I HELPED!
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37 KarenWI I understand what you’re saying. There are about 4 or 5 Repubs that do not want any bailout whatsoever. I do think he will “compromise”, but how – I just don’t know!!
I think McCain has more fear of a bailout being run by one individual though.
Democrats add billions to stopgap bill
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/26/democrats-add-billions-to-stopgap-bill/
Shake ‘n’ Bake…
It has come to my attention, from a worried friend, that Governor Palin is being attacked because her religion believes in witches and spirits. Some are saying that she wants to create a national theocracy. Here are some talking points to counter attack those claims:
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Are you aware that most religions around the world believe in both good and evil spirits? And that there are many Native American beliefs in spirits and people who, in the long run, are what the European would call Witches? [ Todd Palin is of Eskimo descent.] That Wicca is a Witch religion? That there are many refferences in the Christian and Jewish scriptures that loosely relate to these things? That in almost every religion, there are many amulets, prayers, and other things associated with keeping evil spirits away and the purveyors of evil away? (Think St. Christopher and St. Jude medals.)
Many Christian carry a Saint Christopher medal or wear a cross. Some people believe the wearing or carrying of these symbols is supposed to ward off evil, both in people (including witches) that they might encounter and ward off the evil powers of the devil. This is main stream.
Prominent Catholics include Biden, Kerry, Kennedy, and many other Catholics in public office. It would include any devout Christian who wears or carries a religious amulet. Whether they believe personally or just claim to be Catholic, their religion does acknowledge exorcism and the spirit world, including witches, saints, etc. Many people pray to the Virgin Mary, and even have shrines dedicated to her, complete with a statue, in their homes or in their lawns or gardens. To me that is worshiping a graven image, but to them, it is sacred.
From what I understand, Governor Palin was raised Catholic but worships in a variety of Catholic and Protestant churches. That must mean that she is quite broad minded when it comes to religious issues. Until there is concrete evidence to the contrary, I do not believe she is advocating turning our country into a theocracy any more than Obama is going to force us all to adhere to Rev. Wright’s unconventional and inflammatory political/religious teachings. If Wright is off limits as an issue in this election, so is Palin’s alleged belief in witchcraft.
Ancient Israel and Judea were both theocracies. If one adheres to scripture, one might interpret it as being commanded of every Jew to practice that style of government. Islam also advocates theocracy. Vatican City is a theocracy, run by the pope. I don’t see anyone becoming exercised about these things, do you?
To even delve into this is religious discrimination and bigotry. It smacks of a ‘witch hunt’ for lack of a better word. For a nation that is supposed to be for religious freedom, this kind of negativity is simply political bad mouthing in an effort to discredit the targeted person to keep them out of office. Haven’t we fought against this kind of thing for years in the democratic party?
And speaking of betting, Times UK looks into the future and sees Hillary a winner
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/how-hillary-is-a-winner/
Another weatherman/terrorist involved in Obama’s campaign:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76234
what i would have loved to seen.. during the sarah couric interview.. sarah would have paused and asked couric..”honey ,have you ever thought of getting a makeover?”
GM gypsy-
I have to disagree with you. It’s most, and could be all of the repubs, in congress who disagree with this bailout. Dems have added ACORN to the bill. They are to receive 20%. I for one do not want to pay for a radical org. to steal the election!
1. no
2. no
3. maybe?????
4. Mac
5. Democrats
6. well, look……….ahhhh
Chancellor of Ole Miss says poverty pimp could have town hall meeting – ROFLMAO – if Mac doesn’t show up- can you picture it?????????????????????? HAHAHAAHA
Also, released names of big earmarkers – biden & cupcake
cassie..are you joking? ACORN getting money from this bailout??
The fact that the more conservative republicans are opposing this, is proof that the plan is more democratic than republican!
Oh, how I wish Hillary were the one in that conference room instead of Obama…….and how glad I am that McCain is the one on the other side………………….
ACORN is getting big time money from the previous bailout – will probably get from this one too – cupcake takes care of his friends
henrietta..hillary would have work a green pantsuit to that meeting
thats it! HELL NO to the bailout if they are handing money out to ACORN!! HELL NO!
osaka puma-
Yes. That is if the repubs agree to the deal which they will not. Thank God!
http://michellemalkin.com/
52 Cassie I saw that about ACORN and it really ticks me off. Why should they be getting anything? Is it because they helped many people to get loans they weren’t qualified for?
I don’t want a bailout! I didn’t know there were more Repubs against the bailout. I heard several Repubs last nite, but didn’t realize there are more.
And why would there be “earmarks” anyways on this bailout?
Osaka, yes…. ACORN is set to get 20% of the bailout. I have no idea why an operation that is under numerous state lawsuits for illegal voter registration would get 20% of the bailout money, but that is what the dems plan. I am in full agreement that ACORN should NOT get it, as the repubs say. However, I also know that SOMETHING has to get thru and very quickly or “the sky is falling”, LOL. Why the dems have to hang onto their ACORN payoff so hard that it destroys America I do NOT know. ACORN is also one of the “community organizing” things Obama was involved in. It is a pretty shady dealing….
NO BAILOUTS NOBAMA NOWAY NOHOW!!
Here’s some great insight from Peggy Noonan.
“I agree with the cliché that when the issue is the economy, voters have a greater tendency to turn to the Democrats. The economy is a Democratic issue. But I am not at all certain that this is benefiting Barack Obama. The polls are dead even. This is astounding.
The Democrat, after two wars and an unprecedented economic crisis, should be 10 or 20 points up right now. The polls say Mr. Obama is rising, but if he’s not sweeping now, he’s losing.” ~ Peggy Noonan
Read more ~
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122237691191376341.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
Yep ACORN to get 20% I head.
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. Obama, because the MSM will assure it. So far, according to MSM, McCain is either “babbling” or silent at the meetings, while O is asking intelligent questions.
5. Republicans same reasoning as above, while ensuring that payments to Dodd, Obama et al are not mentioned, and Barney Frank’s and Dodd’s refusal to add regulators will somehow be “missed”.
6. UHHHHHHHH
And thanks for making me laugh out loud with the bib picture. I needed that!
#64 shampoovta…. yup, and I “foot”!!! LOL! I knew what you meant- I’ve had my share of typos too, just thought I needed to laugh about SOMETHING today!
i dont know.. all this “rush”"the sky is falling” ..
“we have to do something now before its too late” eerily reminds me of the days before the start of the iraq war with that “yellow cake” and “mushroom clouds over our cities” talk.
I don’t know Osaka. Fox this morning said that already, because there is no deal yet, many small businesses won’t be able to pay their employee paychecks.
I’m only getting bits and pieces of the bailout plan, like all of you, but it looks like the Dems are trying to stick in the usual spending plans to “spur” the economy. I wanted the plan to help out regular people, but that kind of spending is just the usual way Dems say they “help” people to get votes.
I’m glad the Republicans are sniffing out ACORN voter fraud. They better get on that. I wonder if they can sue/take to court ACORN if they link fake registration cards to members of their organization. They should be really aggressive with that. Those fake registration cards keep popping up and it seems like they are mostly being linked to ACORN.
karen.. there they go with the “mushroom clouds over our cities” tactic..butthis time its “small business will not be able to pay their employeees”..
i dont know floks..i smell a rat with all this bailout panic rhetoric
Things like ACORN are why we need the republicans on the other side, and Hillary leading the democratic delegation. I will be calling my congressman again today and insisting NO ACORN!
NO ACORN is right. I need to go out and try to make a buck… I’ll be back as soon as I can. I wish I knew, Osaka, how much is hype and how much isn’t…..
there are 1000’s of items tucked in that bailout plan..we need time to see what were getting in that handout box..
i didnt know about ACORN until a PUMA told us here.. what other BS items are in that box? we need time to see whats in there..
The sad thing is: This really is a crisis! There is no liquidity (money) in our system to fund the every day floating of necessary funds to keep the system functioning. There will be layoffs and plant closings, and people without paychecks all over the country if these people don’t take care of this.
Maybe we should just turn it over to Paulson??????????
I am sure he won’t include ACORN on his list of people being paid……………….
#70 Osaka puma..
My husband works at a small Co and they have missed payroll a lot in the past year. This is not an immediate peril it has been ongoing, recession is here and has been here for over a year!
Picture this … wouldn’t it be wonderful if McCain and Hillary worked together on this bill today, tomorrow and Sunday and helped get it passed by Monday morning. Pelosi and company would go nuts!
#66 KarenWI
Ya I suck at spelling. I also got a lap top yesterday and it is hard to get use to.
This mouse pad thing is strait up retarded.
Off to the shower.
See ya Pumas
Sara Palin is being attacked because the MSM want to expose her as a dummy; it would be fair if they were doing the same to JoeyB who is making all sorts of gaffes. She has the stamina to withstand the abuse and she knows when she is being attacked as such by Katie Couric, so she backs off. Sara or JoeyB as VP, she has a slight learning curve that will be fine but JoeyB is really off base. It is amazing how this nation wants to make women seem incompetent and other nations are electing women as head of countries. Yet we are supposed to be the leader. Simply Amazing.
Sara Palin is being attacked because the MSM want to expose her as a dummy; it would be fair if they were doing the same to JoeyB who is making all sorts of gaffes. She has the stamina to withstand the abuse and she knows when she is being attacked as such by Katie Couric, so she backs off. Sara or JoeyB as VP, she has a slight learning curve that will be fine but JoeyB is really off base. It is amazing how this nation wants to make women seem incompetent and other nations are electing women as head of countries. Yet we are supposed to be the leader. Simply Amazing.
HP..
most small business have been in trouble for a long time.. its a fact over 82% of all small business start-ups go under after 2 years..
rain.. i agree
75 HP Boston
The 4 employees of a small company (myself included) all came in one day in the beginning of July and were all fired. There was no money. So we all tried to ban together and do it on our own. But as of today I haven’t been paid in 5 weeks.
ACORN has committed voter fraud in EVERY state. They plan to beat the system and win the election for Obama by fraud. The problem is everyone is afraid to offend the black voters, and be charge with disenfranchising their votes. So there allowing ACORN a lot of room to continue to commit these fraudulent acts and ACORN is taking advantage of it.
caracal. i live here in nor cal and let me tell you most people here are hurting real bad too.. half the homes in my nice neighborhood have been abandoned and there are for sale signs all over the area
1. debate tonight? maybe (lolololo)
2. bailout today? doubful
3. bailout at all? yes
4. McCain
5. Democrats (proven they received more monies from
most of these corrupt companies)
6. Obama will say, mutlitple times, Let me make this perfectly clear, ummm ahhhh
#61 KarenWI
Are you saying ACORN would get 20% of $700 billion ?!? Am I reading that right? That’s unthinkable.
84 osaka puma
We had to move out of our ARM house in July as well. Fortunately my kids are big so we can do a house this small. We gave our car back yesterday.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO CALL ACORN ON THEIR SH**?
PUMAS .. think survival.. its bad enough as it is with crime rampant.. just imagine how it could get if the economy collapses.. its a real possibility
watch out for skyrocketing rise in home invasion robberies,armed robbery,auto theft,carjackings and burglary..
I say we do a prowl to the Dem & Rep leaders and say “Hell No!” to adding ACORN on this bailout. Tell them the American public do not want to support such a questionable organization. We should also let them know that Hillary’s plan should be listened to.
if tonight’s debate is so critical (which I doubt) why can’t they just move it to Washington. That’s where the candidates both are right now, although I just heard that BO is leaving for Mississippi in less than an hour. There are plenty of cameras and available space and getting an audience wouldn’t be a problem. All participating in the debate in MS have plenty of time to get to Washington. I know a lot of money has been spent in Mississippi, but that happens. so why not?
Two things to think about & ponder PUMAS -
Shrub used pretty much the same language when he got us into Iraq war – dire straits, big crisis, etc.
Paulson is former big wig from Wall Street
I say -let the whole thing go – see what happens
oh caracal.. im so sorry to hear that..my neighbor is from mexico put 85,000 dollars down on his home 4 years ago..he lost all of it..
i seen him laoding a u-haul ,he was walking away from the home..he had his hours cut and his wife got laid off.. sooo bad..
i wish you all the luck in the world hope things work out for you..
Michelle Malkin is all over this ACORN crapola.
Read here ~
http://michellemalkin.com/
Why don’t you all growl and prowl ACORN in some fashion which will garner some attention form media outlets?
Thanks Osaka…Sometimes you just put your head down and keep walkin.
In addition to the ACORN provisions in the Democrats bill, the other part of this the Democrats are trying to push through goes hand in hand with the ACORN Strategy.
Right now, there is little they can offer as far as “foreclosure strategy” goes. You don’t pay your mortgage or work with the lender to modify your loan, you lose your home. But. that would all change if the Democrats have their way. They ae trying to get a change in the bankruptcy law through that would make mortgages subject to a rewrite by a bankruptcy judge.
The current bankruptcy laws treats a mortgage as something that cannot be wiped out in a bankruptcy. A judge cannot modify the terms, and the mortgage debt remains regardless of the outcome. This law is a major reason why mortgage rates are lower than car or other loans.
The Democrats in Congress are working overtime to change that. They want a judge to have the ability to “cram down” a new deal on the lender. This will not solve the mortgage crisis – it will only add to the problems.
With roughly $15 trillion in mortgage debt out there, such a law will drastically devalue already underwater loans. In addition, it will a significant impact on interest rates and terms for future mortgage loans. Those rates will rise to offset the risk of a cram down and will settle at around the same rate as bank loans for a new car. In addition, no lender will be willing to assume the cram down risk for a 30 or 40 year period. And a borrower will be lucky to find a 20 year deal.
The longer the loan term on a mortgage, the lower the monthly payments. The shorter the loan term, the higher the monthly payments. Add a higher interest rate to that, and home loans will no longer be affordable to the majority of the public. And this will impact ALL borrowers.
So those of us that pay our bills on time and have been responsible in our credit decisions get screwed again. Only this time, our children and grandchildren will also suffer.
94 Mick
There is a whole acorn section on our website too.
http://puma-facts.com
under the Acorn tab
Grizzly
not all of us who lost homes were ir-responsible. Thanks
Morning pumas – before school – just popped in with my daily dose of Rasmussen before going out the door-
Nationally BO – 50 – MC – 45 – was a 6 point bounce after the convention — 2nd largest since then
Florida – McCain 48 – 47 Penna – BO 49-45 Ohio Mc 47-46
Get those letters out to the newspapers to INFORM the people that do not know the facts —- this is much too close – and if there is no debate today – it is up to US to make the figures worse for BO.
PS -it was not my intent to pick on Democrats here -but they are the driving forces right now behind the ACORN funding (Dodd and Obama) and the driving force behind the bankruptcy details.
I do think a healthy provision should be made in the bill for ACORN – with that money going to the department of Justice to prosecute this criminal enterprise and bring them to justice.
#92 Susie,
From what I’ve been reading, if we let “the whole thing go” what may happen is a total meltdown in the market. When credit freezes up … the job lose will be major, MAJOR. No credit, no building, no buying houses, no selling houses, small businesses will close, large businesses will layoff people.
Basically, we will see some very difficult times, both financially and otherwise. Financial instability breeds other forms of instability.
I do think that Repubs are wise to slow this bill down and do it the right way.
Just saying.
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#92 Susie1945 on 09.26.08 at 10:15 am Two things to think about & ponder PUMAS -
Shrub used pretty much the same language when he got us into Iraq war – dire straits, big crisis, etc.
Paulson is former big wig from Wall Street
I say -let the whole thing go – see what happens
mick.. i wonder what would happen if 10 million pissed off people marched on washington dc to demand that they give us back our jobs and factories..
#95 Kempion,
YES, since ACORN is being talked about in the media, right now is a good time to flood the MSM outlets and Congress with our PUMA information.
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#95 Kempion on 09.26.08 at 10:20 am Why don’t you all growl and prowl ACORN in some fashion which will garner some attention form media outlets?
Caracal Carrie on 09.26.08 at 10:24 am Grizzly
not all of us who lost homes were ir-responsible. Thanks
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It was not my intention to imply that, and if I did I apologize. I am talking about people who got an assist from Congress and Fannie Mae to get into loans they never should have received in the first place.
I for one understand what a job loss, health crisis and natural disaster can do to one’s ability to make ends meet. I have been there.
I was and still am incensed over the continued efforts by Congress to slip thinks into this bill that don’t belong there. IF this crisis is as big as we are being led to believe, Congress should be focused on solving THAT problem rather than using this as a chance to pickpocket the taxpayers yet again.
#90 Vwade
I say we do a prowl to the Dem & Rep leaders and say “Hell No!” to adding ACORN on this bailout. Tell them the American public do not want to support such a questionable organization. We should also let them know that Hillary’s plan should be listened to.
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We all send message to Fed and his board member, Congress as well.
I have the mini horse farm, but what hurt me the most were the energy costs and gasoline prices! Many of the buyers are in the North but shipping prices got too expensive.
Our utilities are going up over 20%!
I work in a service industry, and my hours have been cut back (oil prices).
It was foreign control that cause my problems.
The other thing – A.R.M.s came about back in the late 1980s I think – I was a realtor at that time. Our company did not advocate A.R.M.s, but many agents still used them. There was a housing market crunch that occurred with rates going as high as 16%. The market recovered in about 2 years I think. Many people lost their homes during that interval also.
grizzly..its a fact most americans are two or three paychecks away from the streets and thats a very scary thought..
i’ve never been homeless but ive had many nightmares of walking the streest with no where to go..
its frightening whats happening in our country now…
bobram Bobram is having computer and email difficulty. He lost his regular server and I think he’s switching to a new one. Please let him know he’s being missed. He’s such a corker.
good afternoon pumas¿¡¿¡
any good or bad news?¡’
U.S. federal agents say they have enough evidence to indict Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich for fraud and conspiracy http://countusout.wordpress.com
Is Rezko cooperating is Obama next?
#109 1 gypsy…Thank for the update on bobram…
Yo, Bobram…get back here quick. We need some cold hard facts now more than ever !
#108 Osaka puma,
“its a fact most americans are two or three paychecks away from the streets and thats a very scary thought.”
What you said may be a scary thought to you, but it’s not a fact.
While I’m here addressing you I’d like to give thanks to your intelligent commentary of Ms. Sarah Palin. I’m very much impressed by her leadership skills as well.
#80 and 82 osaka and Carrie..
I am not hurt by this and it is a an old Co not a start up. I say 50% of the problem is poor mangement. The Co was once my client and they were aways on credit hold, my husband is retired so the job is his choice.
I work in the automotive industry. As we all know there are few factories left here in the states. So I went to work at a small company specializing in Auto electric. The company had to shift its focus to the core/scrap aspect of it to survive. Well China inflated all of the scrap market prices, built a stockpile. Then stopped buying to squeeze the money out of the hedge funds. So the entire auto electric industry is on its ear. Rebuilders are closing because you can go to Walmart or autozone and by a 40 dollar alternator that will last you a couple of years.
So people I talk to every day are losing their businesses and their homes and this is not new. This has been steadily progressing for at least the last 2 years.
This is the kind of stuff that is over the top- Pelosi and Reid trying to sneak in another $56 billion into the rescue package right before their meeting yesterday with Bush:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dems-seek-a-further-56-billion-2008-09-25.html
HP
I am glad to hear that you are not relying on the company for survival.
I live in a town that used to employ over 25000 people in auto factories. Now they employ 25 people in an office. So alot of people here in my town are looking for jobs and there are not a lot to be had.
Good morning PUMA Family!
I woke up this morning with the news my favorite bank was taken over by JP Morgan, which I find totally appalling, they’re taking over loans. Banking will be the same, bank on business. Since September 17, customers of the bank start withdrawing their money total amount of withdrawals $17 billions.
In the news which would make all PUMAS and lurkers very angry ELECTION 2008
Another Weatherman terrorist key player in Obama campaign
Communists, socialists, anarchists also part of political organization. Everyone should read this news, we MUST defeat NObama. If you’re still thinking of leaving top of the ballot blank, its time for you to make a decision, are you ready to give up this country to people like NObama and his minions? This election will make or break USA, by leaving top of the ballot blank, is like voting “present” instead of helping a lot of us putting McCain in the Whitehouse. I don’t agree 100% with McCain, but I know for a fact, the man will defend this country, will not allow this country to fall into socialim; a heartbeat away from communism.
A new organization is needed to help homeowner, not Acorn. It gives me a chill, when I think of once Acorn got the money and hire more people to cheat for BO in GE.
#51 Dear Osaka Puma, you are so right about the media picking on Sarah unfairly, and I love your quote:
“what i would have loved to seen.. during the sarah couric interview.. sarah would have paused and asked couric..”honey ,have you ever thought of getting a makeover?”
Good Morning PUMAs,
I have been surfing the web for a little info this morning and listened to TV also (which I shouldn’t have done). They are pouncing on McCain and some want Palin off his ticket. Naturally they give a pass to Biden and his gaffes. Oh well.
Anyway, there was a piece on RCP from a “journalist” from the Guardian and I gave him a piece of my mind.
Here goes:
“Toby:
You wrote “This is a Presidential campaign, however – you check your morality at the door.”
It is Obama and the Democratic Party along with Bush, Paulson, Cox, etc., who are the ones who have checked their morality at the door.
Is the public aware that part of the bailout is to fund Foreign Banks who employ US employees? I suggest those US employees find another job.
Is the mainstream public aware that ACORN is to be a recipient of funds from the bailout? Of course not, let’s keep the public out of the loop.
McCain has more guts than you, Obama, the Dems and those others who want to actually sell America short and have the public digging into their pockets for these short-sighted losers.
McCain in 2006, as many are now aware but which he isn’t given credit, tried to avert this financial debacle when he introduced legislation to rein in Fannie and Freddie, but as usual those who have lined their pockets with Fannie and Freddie cash, i. e., Obama, Dodd, Frank, etc., opposed it.
The Democrats don’t need the Republicans’ vote to pass the Bailout, since they’re in the majority. The only reason those wimps want Republican consensus is because Pelosi said the Democrats don’t want to be the only ones with their fingerprints on this Bailout. And Bush is eager to sign it.
Now, because McCain has suspended his campaign and is trying to hammer out a deal that would be amenable to the public as well as the financial sector, he’s getting trashed.
I think Obama was foolish for not wanting to go back to Washington, because if I were a candidate for POTUS, and if elected I would possibly inherit a financial mess, I would want to have some input into what I would have fall into my lap in January.
As far as Obama and leadership, the only thing he’s managed is his campaign, which is just an extension of his days as a get-out-the-vote community activist .
An interesting article, and real food-for-thought, is a piece I recently read. For any US voter this is a must read:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/23/the-trojan-candidate/ “
Here’s another article that explains the economic problem and you can see why people are hesitant to embrace Paulsen’s plan as is – not even he can see the future.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/business/25value.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=business
I find it hard to believe that BO, whose working time in the Senate is 143 days would have the same grasp and depth of understanding on this complex matter than McCain does. JMHO
#104 mick Git on it.
The Gingrich plan calls to the $700B to be a LOAN, repayable with interest when the mortgage markets recover.
#118 Asian4Hillary
Additional to what you said, leaving blank on the top means giving opportunity to BO people to mark it for you. That’s possible.
120 thecandypoem I would have asked Couric if she knew what bills B. Hussein initiated and got passed!!
Well, my thing is – the more they talk about it and the more they say how drastic everything is – the sky is falling, the sky is falling – it becomes a self fullfulled prophecy – the sky falls -
It’s a ploy to bail out wall street & who has the most money in wall street – everyone who is part of government – they have more money than we do –
I don’t have a house to lose – I rent – I got all that shit about no money down loans, 150% financing, etc. & said to myself, WTF – are these people nuts? Does this mean I’m smarter than the average bear who bit on this crap – no it just means that I know if something sounds to good to be true – it probably isn’t =
Also, who said the American dream is to own a house?
Plans laid out by Obama? WTF (I’ve never used this before)
“Capitalism is about success, but it’s also about failure.” ~ Neil Cavuto
The voice of reason … Cavuto On the Economic Bailout (VIDEO)
http://msunderestimated.com/2008/09/25/cavuto-on-the-economic-bailout-video/
Reposting as I was talking to myself
On a happy note I have been trying for months to get my mother to vote McPalin or stay home. She is 60 and a lifelong democrat. Was behind Hillary but was towing the party line. Me believes she had an email exchange with a puma friend last night and has seen the light of day. Of course she went on to spew all the talking points I have been battering her with for months as if she had never heard.
If you’re on here from Washington Sharon’s son says THANKYOU! My brothers and I were planning on having her committed for that 72 observation thing on Nov 3 as a danger to others(hee hee). So my immediate family alone is 12 dems for McPalin in PA.
#488 henry on 09.26.08 at 10:54 am
I think it is imperative that we continue to share what we read here and on other cites with those we know. We may be rebuffed but if they hear it from you and then again from someone else it just might work. My mother typically only watches the local 6 o’clock news which is in the tank for waffles. I think she thought I was just a bitter HRC supporter until she got the same spiel from someone else
Okay – Reid & Dodd on news now blaiming McCain – surprised?
Murphy, I’m sorry but I must post the whole text of this news, this is very important. I want everyone to read this, this country is in GRIEVE DANGER.
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ELECTION 2008
Another Weatherman terrorist key player in Obama campaign
Communists, socialists, anarchists also part of political organization
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Posted: September 26, 2008
1:00 am Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Former Weathermen member Mark Rudd
JERUSALEM – One of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization is a signatory to an independent organization acting to ensure the election of Sen. Barack Obama, WND has learned.
The group in question, Progressives for Obama, also includes among its ranks many former members of the 1960s radical organization Students for a Democratic Society, from which the Weathermen splintered, as well as current and former members of other radical organizations, such as the Communist Party USA and the Black Radical Congress.
In its creed, first published in March in the Nation magazine, the Progressives for Obama founders state their organization descended from the “proud tradition of independent social movements that have made America a more just and democratic country.”
Progressives for Obama stated it can help the Illinois senator’s ascent to highest office by contributing funds, using the Internet to reach “millions of swing voters;” defending Obama against negative attacks and making its agenda known at the Democratic National Convention.
“Progressives can make a difference in close primary races like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon and Puerto Rico, and in the November general election,” the founders state.
The founders stress it is crucial to form a grassroots leftist movement to ensure Obama does not stray too far to the center, claiming other grassroots liberal movements have successfully pressured U.S. presidents into creating new policy:
It was the industrial strikes and radical organizers in the 1930s who pushed Roosevelt to support the New Deal. It was the civil rights and student movements that brought about voting rights legislation under Lyndon Johnson and propelled Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy’s antiwar campaigns. It was the original Earth Day that led Richard Nixon to sign environmental laws.
And it will be the Obama movement that will make it necessary and possible to end the war in Iraq, renew our economy with a populist emphasis, and confront the challenge of global warming. We should not only keep the pressure on [Obama] but also connect the issues that Obama has made central to his campaign into an overarching progressive vision.”
Among the signatories and endorsers to Progressives for Obama is Mark Rudd, one of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization. Rudd worked closely for years with Weathermen terrorist William Ayers, whose association with Obama has generated controversy for the presidential candidate.
Rudd originally was a top member of the Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, leading the famed 1968 Columbia University strikes in which hundreds of students seized several university buildings. He also served as spokesman for the strikes, attracting international media attention.
In 1968, Rudd traveled with the SDS to Cuba, defying U.S. travel bans, where he says he was heavily influenced by the legacy of Che Guevara and by Cuban-style revolution. When he returned to the U.S., Rudd advocated for Columbia’s chapter of the SDS to carry out militant, aggressive action, but he was turned down.
A bio published on his own website explains Rudd worked to form the Weathermen as a radical alternative to the SDS and for white Americans to eject their “white skin privilege” and begin “armed struggle” against the U.S. government.
The Weathermen took responsibility for bombing U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s.
Rudd went underground in 1970, when a bomb exploded in a townhouse in Greenwich Village in New York City, killing three of his comrades. He lived for seven and a half years in hiding as a fugitive, finally surrendering in 1977, facing only low-level state charges after federal charges against Weathermen leaders had been dropped. He resurfaced as a teacher in New Mexico.
As late as 2005, Rudd wrote an editorial in the Los Angeles Times lamenting the state of the antiwar movement in the U.S.
“What’s hard to understand – given the revelations about the rush to war, the use of torture and the loss of more than 2,000 soldiers – is why the antiwar movement isn’t further along than it is. Given that President Bush is now talking about Iraq as only one skirmish in an unlimited struggle against a global Islamic enemy, a struggle comparable to the titanic, 40-year Cold War against communism, shouldn’t a massive critique of the global war on terrorism already be underway?” he wrote.
Rudd condemned the Weathermen’s decision to embark on an “armed-struggle,” calling it “stupid” since the violent acts led to the group’s demise.
Rudd didn’t condemn the terrorism itself, only its contribution to the downfall of the Weathermen.
Rudd declined to speak on the record to WND, explaining an interview may spark more Weathermen controversy for Obama.
Rudd is just one of scores of radicals involved with Progressives for Obama.
The group was founded by four individuals with ties to extremist groups:
Tom Hayden, a former state senator who was a founder and principal organizer of the SDS. Discover the Networks notes Hayden, previously married to actress Jane Fonda, traveled many times to North Vietnam, Czechoslovakia and Paris to strategize with communist North Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders on how to defeat America’s anti-communist efforts.
Bill Fletcher, a former Maoist and current leader of Democratic Socialists of America or DSA. The New Zeal blog notes Fletcher was also a founder of the Black Radical Congress, closely linked to the Communist Party USA, which advocated for “progressive social justice, racial equality and economic justice goals within the U.S.
Barbara Ehenreich, an honorary chairman of DSA who was formerly active in antiwar movements in which some notorious radicals took part.
Actor Danny Glover, a member of the Black Students Union, who has visited Venezuela, making guest appearances on President Hugo Chavez’s television and radio talk show. He reportedly has accepted loans of about $20 million from the Venezuelan government to make a movie about a Haitian revolutionary leader.
The Progressives for Obama webmaster is Carl Davidson, a former vice president of the Students for a Democratic Society, who has traveled to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro.
The signatories and endorsers of the Obama activist group, listed on the Progressives website, include scores of well known communist, socialist and anarchist activists and former SDS members.
The Obama campaign was not prepared to comment on the links to Rudd and other extremists in the allied organization.
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This is DANGEROUS!!!!!!
The more I hear, the more I realize the “Party of the People” has turned into the “Party for the Politician”.
Bail out ACORN, the organization being investigated for voter fraud all over the nation?
As I have said since January, BHO is just Politics as Usual, Chicago Style and being from Illinois, I know I don’t want this in Washington!
Ugh, Reid an Dodd on Fox …. MAJOR BLOWHARDS!!
#102 mick on 09.26.08 at 10:26 am
I say -let the whole thing go – see what happens
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What will happen is the house of cards will come tumbling down and take you and me with it. As much as no one wants to bail these banks out, Paulsen and others are correct in that (like a house of cards), if we let them go down, everything will follow shortly thereafter. I don’t know about you, but I’d like to keep what I have – this will effect my pension fund at the very least.
The reasonable approach would be to do what the Republicans are trying to do (and what Hillary is trying to do) – modify it and put some restrictions on it. Ultimately, tho, we’re going to have to take a chance because no one can foresee the future.
Maybe its because I really don’t have much left to lose..but I don’t want to bail em out.
#135 Robblerouser,
We are on the same page.
Re-read my #102 comments, I didn’t say “let the whole thing go” #92 Susie made that statement.
For the recordL Acorn is a nonprofit; They have had over the years many agenda actions, but they are not a lender, they do not hold mortgages, they have not engaged in securities, so what the hell are they being earmarked for? Like a lot of other nonprofit groups across this country, who may only operate in local jurisdictions and do not have a nationwide coalition,
they have received funds from various government programs to do so called education re home ownership, and the like. There is no reason for this group, among nonprofits in this country, to receive money set aside for a bailout of lending institutions, except as a way for Democrats, and chief among them the DNC and Obama campaign to earmark a group that in fact has now focused in this election cycle on so called voter registrations. NO MONEY FOR ACORN IN ANY BAILOUT OR NEGOTIATION…EVEN IF AROUND THE COUNTRY THEY HAD NOT, AS THEY HAVE BEEN, INVOLVED IN ALLEGED FRAUD RE REGISTRATIONS.
MURPHY; WE NEED A MAJOR PROWL TO DEMS AND REPS IN CONGRESS DEMANDING EXCISEMENT OF THIS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND DANGEROUS EARMARK…
TODAY, PLEASE.
Man they are hitting hard on John McCain coming to town..
#137 mick on 09.26.08 at 11:04 am
Sorry, mick, I’m doing this at work (and shouldn’t be…) and am jumping all over the place…
Of course Reid and his crew of creeps don’t want McCain in town. How are they going to load up the bail-out bill with all kinds of goodies for the pals if he’s there to stop it.
Creep Reid. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. Bunch of crooks.
And Dodd? Isn’t he under investigation for Sweetheart Mortgage deals? Or, is Nancy still protecting him from a House Congressional Investigation?
Acorn deserves not one red cent! Might as well just pour all the money right into Obama’s pocket and let him dole it out to all his “for sale” pals in Congress. Sickening! Absolutely sickening! They should all be put in jail.
#139 Caracal Carrie family feud going on over here via the phone, what are you talking about?????
#131 Susie1945 on 09.26.08 at 10:58 am
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I’m furious. Reid is the biggest a$$! Point blank in one breathe blamed McCain for injecting presidential politics into the negotiations and then states that they will be using Senator Oblahblah’s plans, yet again attmpting to present ‘him’ as the savior. My first question is are they Oblahblah’s plans or Hillary’s plans? I’ve not heard any of Oblahblah’s plans. All I’ve heard is his whining about McCain potentially standing him up at the debate tonight and blathering about how impoprtant that debate is. What a first-class idiot!
Oh and Dodd, saying this is a crises that could have been averted and should not have happened. No s&*t Sherlock – and YOU Dodd are one of the main dimwits who brought us to this point. Follow the money trail!
I am just furious at this democratic leadership (I use that term very loosely). They are the biggest bunch of lying, theiving, dumba%%es I’ve ever seen in my life.
And this is the bunch who wants us to swallow their ‘chosen’ one, like their judgement is better then the voters of this country as far as who is the BEST person to lead us right now. Pffft.
I am furious! Need to go for a walk or something before I explode. These people may have just sealed the deal for me as far as who I’ll be voting FOR on November 4 – and it ain’t Oblahblah! I’m heartsick having to say that. Why can’t we have Hillary for jeebus sake!?
Sorry for ranting.
BBL
They didn’t “create” the problem; they ARE the problem.
Just STFU Dingy Harry!! What a BIGASS whinny baby!!
#139 Caracal Carrie on 09.26.08 at 11:04 am Man they are hitting hard on John McCain coming to town..
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That’s because it was a brilliant move for McCain which left BO in the dirt. The Dems who are in the majority and could easily pass this bill, don’t want to be voting for a “republican” bill, so the Repbublicans have them over a barrel and they know it. So McCain is really in the driver’s seat right now. The dems are furious…
Seems we have gotten lost in the forest and cant see the trees. Here is the real deal.
Obama has been bragging about how he’s gonna tax the rich (that does mean these huge companies that have failed) in many cases. But it does include small business that provide more jobs than even the larger ones. So, he wants to help bail out these miserable businesses and then when he gets in he wants to tax them more! Am I right? Does that make any sense to you, any of you?
Taxes Plans for mccain/obama
above 2.87 million
McCain Obama
-267,364 +701,885
603,403 to 2.87 million
McCain Obama
-45,361 +115,974
Sly
I am watching Dodd and Reid.
Reid was saying well we had an agreement until “you know who” came to town….
Oh jebus! Someone had better put a muzzle on Harry Reid. He’s getting stupider and stupider with every passing minute in this news conference. Now he’s saying “we did not cause this”. Duh, WHAT!!??
Ok, going for that cool off walk now.
Creep Reid is probably thinking of all those “earmarks” he was banking on now going down the toilet ’cause McCain is back.
Thank heavens McCain is back.
It’s like “Daddy” came home and caught little Bo Beep’s older buddy raiding the liquor cabinet and put an end to the party. Now Reid is really pissed. McCain(aka Daddy) came home and spoiled all the fun. Damn!
I’ve just copy/paste the whole text of news I’ve posted here and send it to everyone in my email lists. There are NObama supporters in my email lists, they have the right to know the kind of man they’re supporting.
if the republicans, the fbi, the feds know about that this guy is like missile at the american institutions, that is completely sponsored by antiameicans, that the change is a for the empowerment of themselfs and destruction the american dream
HOW COME NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING??? WE ARE IN PERIL¡¡¡¡
Reminds me of the kids who raid their older sibling’s piggybank and then go out and buy popsickles for the whole neighborhood…..
Time to go to your room, Reid. You need to be punished.
#148 Caracal Carrie ok i was scrolling up and caught what was going on thanks wish I could have heard it but you know family and fighting…. got to be referee..
I think it was Dodd who was saying “Presidential politicing is not helping the situation..I repeat not helping..”
“Just a reminder: House GOP can’t block a bailout bill.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has the plenary power to bring a bill to the floor of the House, and no parliamentary procedure can help a minority to block a majority will to pass it. That’s one fact that has to be remembered while Pelosi and Barney Frank blame the House GOP over the collapse of the bailout bill:”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/just-a-reminder-house-gop-cant-block-a-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comments
132 Asian4Hillary Please post this on the Drudge Reports. “They” are trying to takeover our country and governments!! Everyone needs to know about what is going on – post it everywhere!!
These are the radicals that will start the violence if B. Hussein is not elected!! Send it to Rush and Hannity!!
GOOD MORNING PUMAS..
FROM THE QUESTIONS PROPOSED ABOVE,MY 5 BUCKS GOES AS FOLLOWS:
1. Will there be a Presidential debate tonight?
YES, AND BUSH KICKS A**
2. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed today?
YES, WITH PARTS OF PROVISIONS TO BE REVIEW IN THREE MONTHS.
3. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed at all?
YES……….SEE #2
4. Who will benefit politically from this week’s financial turmoil — Obama or McCain?
McCain, the future president, who puts country and people before himself or party…
5. Who will be blamed for whatever goes wrong with the financial markets between now and November — the Republicans or the Democrats?
Nothing will go wrong with the financial markets and if it does they will BOTH BE BLAMED…
6. What will Obama say more often — “ummm” or “ahhh”? Dark horse option: “well, look”
WELL LOOK! aHHH, McCain, your liked well enough!
When you poll 100 people the majority of the people will have the correct answer as to how things will go down.
i.e. if 68 people out of 100 say their will be a debate tonight, you can place your money on their intuition and common sense..
That is the value of my -0.02 cents worth today.
#88MIMI1020: Do a Major Prowl to Dems and Reps in Congress demanding that this earmark be removed and reasons why!
Love to bet!
1. There will be a debate this evening McCain will ride in at the last minute.
2. There will not be a bailout plan today.
3. There will be a bail out plan the only question is how bad The People will get screwed by Corporate America via Congress.
4. McCain is crafty he will come out of this turmoil looking good.
5. Dems will look bad for going along with Wall Streets extortion stunt. Anyone who has taken money from the finance industry will look bad.
6. I change the channel every time BO comes on I can’t listen to him. So no vote on this one for me.
If McCain does not go to debate, the whole thing will be cancelled. It’s ILLEGAL for the show to go on without him.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=1785302026&t=1816384054
(They should know by noon.)
lol Sly I live 1000 miles away from my family so I don’t get much scuffles going on. Sometimes it gets sticky because we are all strong, loud, independent women. But mostly we are all on the same page. When we do fuss though…. sheeewwww stand back.
#148 Caracal Carrie on 09.26.08 at 11:11 am
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Yeah, clearly they do not realize that the American people are NOT STUPID! He also said they did not need “outsiders” in these negotiations. What!? Senator McCain is a sitting Senator, Oblahblah is also a sitting Senator. They’re members of a Congress that is only proposing a huge bailout of tax payer dollars. What in the world is he talking about about “outsiders”?
This is rediculous. I am so sick and tired of stupid, arrogant, partisan politicians trying to ‘run’ our country.
WE THE PEOPLE really, really need to step up here and not allow them to be so d%$ned stupid with our money and our country’s economic security.
i sense a prowl in all this somewhere.
It’s not only ACORN they want to fund in the Bailout, but also FOREIGN BANKS who employ Americans. Can’t they get another job? I know. Go work for the Government, they have plenty of our money to throw around.
What’s this an equal opportunity Bailout? Let’s bailout everybody!
And we’re the ones who’ll be left holding the bag! And an empty bag at that.
An older gentleman from Oregon sent email to fox news & said we need to get rid of the whole bunch – i’m in favor – newbies couldn’t do any worse than that bunch of assholes there now – and I still say – let it happen – I don’t owe anyone who bought over their head any kind of bailout – no one’s bailing me out -……………….
My IRA has dropped big time and no one offered to put back what I lost………………………
@ 159 NewOrleansPuma. There is a petition that was just started.
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
(It’s a pretty severe petition, but hopefully it will grab attention. If you agree with it, then help make it viral.)
But not any pork, the Democrats have actually earmarked the bill with 100 million dollars for left wing organizers left-wing housing entitlement mobsters and heavily tax-subsidized fraudsters at ACORN. As some of you may already know, ACORN is already under federal investigation for election FRAUD and other unwholesome acts.
http://savagepolitics.com/
When you read the Democrat earmark, specifically Section 5 of the Chris Dodd counter-proposal to the Paulson Plan, a large portion of any repayment of the $700 billion would go to the ‘uber community organizers’ of ACORN, with a smaller allocation to debt repayment. It specifically promises a minimum 20% of the ‘profits’ from the Treasury’s sale of assets to The Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund. (CLICK HERE TO READ THIS SECTION OF THE BAILOUT)
159 NewOrleansPuma on 09.26.08 at 11:16 am
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I agree! Prowl, prowl, prowl Do not just allow them to be stupid with OUR money and OUR government. We’ve got to speak up and speak out. Put our elected officials on notice. We are NOT STUPID sheep, and we are watching them.
#158 TerryDo on 09.26.08 at 11:16 am
YES, AND BUSH KICKS A**
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BUSH????? um, you have the wrong guy!!
Betting:
1. Will there be a debate…Yes, We just don’t know who is going to show up yet
2. Will there be a bailout plan passed to day…Nah
3. Will there be a bailout plan…yes
4. Who will benefit politically….Looks like Hillary is the front runner here
5. who will be blamed…all elected officials
6. BO…..neither…His word of the evening will be “present”
Biden asks for $51 million in earmarks during the crisis.
Is this true? Anyone heard anything?
Caracal Carrie on 09.26.08 at 11:01 am Maybe its because I really don’t have much left to lose..but I don’t want to bail em out.
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I hear you. I have been “between jobs” since the end of last year. I work in the finance industry. It seems I am at that strange age where I am too young to retire but too old to hire. I had a decent retirement savings that I have had to draw on for living expenses. Because I am not eligible for retirement at age 52, I pay a penalty of 10% on the amounts I take out to live on (plus paying ordinary income tax on top of that). I have been pretty careful with my money, and the only debt I have is my home.
My retirement savings are not going to last much longer, and the prospect of a new job any time soon is pretty dim. I am willing to get back in at entry level, but no one wants to touch a person with over 25 years of experience for that kind of job.
Now I am seeing what is left of my retirement funds quickly erode from this mess. I had figured that if I dod not have a job by the end of the year, I would have to sell the house to avoid foreclosure. Talked to a realtor and was told while our real estte market here is not bad, people are not able to buy homes because they cannpt sell their homes or get loans.
So I sit here thinking about what I have I can sell. And have put together an inventory on what goes to cobble together some living expenses.
And what really burns me up is that the people who would have never qualified for a loan are now the ones taking all of us down. And our Congress is going out of their way to protect them while ignoring the people who are victims of the ecomony (and Congress’ abues) rather than victims of their own greed or recklessness.
Sam to the point to where I would rather see the whole thing blow up rather than continue to subsidize criminal behavior and stupidity.
Sorry for the rant.
Surprised we didn’t see good ole Nance at that press conference this morning. Where is she? Hmm….Maybe she’s still being chewed out by her local bishop. HA. Stupid little witch….LOL. All that power has really gone to her ditzy head….Her belief that she had a direct line to God and the power to propose a new Church position on reproductive freedom didn’t go over so well with the Church. If she chooses a position. Fine. Take her take her stand and live with the consequences. BUT PLEASE don’t try to out-interpret the Pope on the tenets of Catholic faith, idiot. I hear her “communion” status is being reevaluated. Serves her right.
#166 kat in your hat on 09.26.08 at 11:19 am
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Letter #66 on the way!
Thanks for sharing.
#136 Caracal Carrie on 09.26.08 at 11:01 am Maybe its because I really don’t have much left to lose..but I don’t want to bail em out.
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I hear ya Carrie…Nothing from nothing is nothing as I always like to say.
I say no bailout!
The greedy will suck up the losers so fast and make hay.
We will learn to barter and go without (no choice) and the American people will survive, the money changers will find a way to suck us back in by giving us our money back so we can give it to them again!
There is no freaking way the BOYS with the most to lose will let us sink them! We have to have the guts to stop the sham. Ah I am nuts as if we can or could.
We must call and simply tell them NO and REMEMBER WE VOTE IN NOVEMBER!!!
Breaking. McCain WILL attend the debate tonight!
Breaking News McCain will go to debate but will return right afterwards to Washington…..
Okay PUMAS – get your popcorn ready
Just announced that Mac will be at the debate
McCain is going to debate!
I lost my $5.00 – sorry Murphy – will have to wait to pay off………………. ;(
I see that not only the housing market contributed to this. I think if a lot of people hadn’t been hit with job problems at the same time house payments were rising, more of them would have been able to keep thier houses.
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BREAKING NEWS: John McCain will attend debate, AP reports
Mac at the debate…bummer…I had this thought that Hillary would walk on stage and debate him in Mac’s place. I know…it’s twisted.
Aww….McCain just announced he will be at the debate. I kind a wanted him to leave Barack hanging until the last minute to increase Obama’s anxiety level. Actually having to face McCain face-to-face has got to be scaring the living daylights out of Bambi. It’s a lot harder to trash your opponent behind his back or through your street punks than it is to his face. I hope Bambi has enough time to fill himself with whatever he uses to give him that “I am God” delusion.
In the 60’s it was LSD. Wonder what it is these days. Biofeedback? Electrodes attached to his earlobes? The fear of Michelle’s wrath if he fails?
Nancy giving him a spanking?
CT
I would have paid ….well no cause I dont have any money LOL…but would have loved to see that!
#166katin the hat: Thank you for this information re the petition. Ihave gone there, added some thoughts,and signed it. I urge others to do the same and I continue to urge a Major Prowl re this issue from us, here.
169 mick on 09.26.08 at 11:20 am #158 TerryDo on 09.26.08 at 11:16 am
YES, AND BUSH KICKS A**
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BUSH????? um, you have the wrong guy!!
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Was that a Freudian slip, Will (Bush) daddy be kicking a**?
Thanks for pointing that out, and hopefull you understood to whom I truly meant to reference..
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003: ‘These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008: “This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac] “These are viable, strong institutions.”
“Status Quobama”
“Sen. McCain suspended his campaign because he thought his place as a U.S. senator was in Washington during a big financial crisis. The Republican presidential nominee also said he wouldn’t be showing up for the first debate.
Call it a gimmick if you like, but you can bet Sen. Obama wishes he’d thought of it first. Instead, the Democratic nominee lamely retorted that the debate, set for Friday at the University of Mississippi and focusing on foreign policy, should not be delayed because “it makes sense for us to present ourselves before the American people” and “we’ve both got big planes.” But that falls flat. “…
rest of the story:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=307234473822905
Here’s a NYT article from Sept, 2007 – the dems pushed for Freddie and Fannie to buy up all those defaulting mortgages. Paulsen and Bernacke (and Bush) were against the idea and foresaw what would happen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/business/21home.html
I would have loved it if they had sent Sarah in McCain’s place. I would have loved to see Bambi’s face when she walked on stage. I’m sure she would have done fine too. I’m sure she could have told us who was president when the market crashed in ‘29 and when presidents’ first began using television to address the people.
169 mick on 09.26.08 at 11:20 am #158 TerryDo on 09.26.08 at 11:16 am
YES, AND BUSH KICKS A**
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BUSH????? um, you have the wrong guy!!
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Mercury retrograde, read and re-read everything before sending out and/or signing.. LOL
I should take my own advice.
I don’t get where Obama’s “fans” think his behavior about the financial crisis is OK. I’m thinking this crisis is a big deal and it makes perfect sense for Obama and McCain to be very involved. One of them is going to be the next prez after all. The dems keep saying McCain ruined this big agreement they had when it seems the House Republicans weren’t even let in on the negotiations–so there was no such agreement. And yesterday the dems were desperate to get everything done before McCain arrived when this situation is major serious and should not be treated like a race. How do intelligent dems defend all of this? And boy do I hope McCain shows up for the debate and stomps all over Obama!
And they think they can solve the crisis?
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003: ‘These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008: “This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac] “These are viable, strong institutions.”
Look, the bought and paid for Dems and Bush had this “screw The People” plan ready to go at the last possible minute and their puppet masters, Corporate America, set up this little extortion charade to give them cover to ram it through. Yeah they are pissed off and scared because McCain rode back into town and not all of the Congress is bought and paid for, so it didn’t work. Now they will be exposed. There will be time for questions to be asked, of course not by the corporate media but they are losing their grip on information monopoly and long ago lost their credibility. Questions such as what caused this problem to surface now? Why were there no provisions for oversight in the first plan? Why didn’t the economy come to a halt when the giveaway was delayed? Why did the stock market not crash? Who took money from whom? Who got sent the hottest call girl from whom? Yeah shine a little light on this fiasco and the weasels are going to scurry and they are not going to be happy.
Terry
you make me smile…
and Im a triple cancer so thats hard to do LOL
#168nobamaDem: Please go as well to petition linked by kat in hat on post #166. Yes..Prowl these succors on this earmark piece of political propanganda…now not someone else’s money ,i.e. the DNC will pay for more voter fraud registration attempts. …This is will be sold as money to help educatelow income homeowners or other so called housing items. It will be used to fund voter registrations…Paper accounting for nonprofits is always prorated across several programs in budgets…in %s of time relative to different functions of the group. This will be a pathetic misuse of that practice and our money.
#35 Silence Dogood
All the reports of duplicate and fraudulent registrations by Acorn in multiple states is very troubling. It’s not surprising all the new registrations are democrats. It’s been reported that they only register people who agree to vote bo upfront.
DOW is down less than 30 points. I don’t call that a crash. Also did you know that trading can be suspended if there seems to be a crisis in the markets to give everyone a chance to cool off? It seems that would be a way to prevent the economy from being pulled into a dark hole.
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Please check Texas Darlin site:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
and spend sometime reading the historian author Judah Benjamin’s article about BOBO’s citizenship history.
This is a must to learn issues of Constitutional facts.
PUMAS –
Yesterday was my travel day and I saw a lot of folks glued to the TV. You know I am Asian and I just went around folks to smell political talk.
Noticed a person of African origin (accent) talk to a young white girl and in some minutes they parted
THis person was looking for the next neighbor to talk to their face to. I took it.
He asked – Have they negotiated the deal..
I said – not yet. Expect it to happen Friday
He said – Why is John running from Debate
I said – to perform real time elsewhere (should have said – where was Barry when John asked for Town Hall meetings – may be next time)
He said – Oh but he is not going to write anything
At this point another White person with his girl next to him turned back and said – I know the first one went well but the second one isn’t, right.
The man replied – I am working on it.
Then another AA came into picture as Larry King preview came on.
I used that to say that I felt that the media was completely sold and biased and make a scam of information propogation to the guillible.
A few other folks at this time noticeably giggles and could not hide their approval. I thought I made a dent.
They quickly tried to turn the topic to Barry’s energy and alternative energy plan and the other AA said he did not believe that such a plan would happen in 100 days. Nice to hear from them though.
They then said how could a VP ticket person not appear in the media and why is she scared to talk to people and media.
Now it was my time to pounce – I asked them if they thought that the media had been fair to her. I said they were completely devastating her and it is her prerogative now to take it one at a time – read she will do it on her terms. They argued media does this to everybody and it is ok. I repeated, do you think that really applies to both sides? I asserted you get what you give and having made the non-participants hear this PUMA like prowl, I thought I had made my point and I quickly excused myself to take a call.
A person next to me (woman with a teenage girl) was happy when I declared I comment in PUMA and believe in their cause.
I am glad you guys are reaching across one person at a time and in my future travels I will ensure I continue to hone my message to obots and trolls that are all empty suits like the master himself.
OH BOY – CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS DEBATE TONIGHT – I HOPE MAC WIPES THE FLOOR WITH OBAMBI SO THAT THE WORLD CAN WAKE UP AND UNDERSTAND THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE FIRST!
quick question ~
If I want to send a mass email out, how do I hide that? Is it Cc or Bcc?
I WIN!!!!!!!!
McCain will DEBATE tonight!!!!!!!
i KNEW it!
#203 mick – BCC
Tom won’t know John got it and Barrry would never know
For all who hope Obama will look the fool because of McCain’s bold yet risky move to suspend his campaign then read this from Real Clear Politics. I’m still smiling confidently over it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/is_mccains_gamble_paying_off.html
mick BCC
#205 LotusBoy on 09.26.08 at 11:41 am
Thanks LB.
#204 Murphy – yeah – I conceded my loss to you – but put caveat on payment – my ira is in the tank so have to wait for bailout to make payment……………………..
did you guys notice Dodd say ” this is not time for presidential politics” hinting McCain’s stance.
Can he be defeated at the next election he stands in?
NewOrleansPuma on 09.26.08 at 11:16 am #88MIMI1020: Do a Major Prowl to Dems and Reps in Congress demanding that this earmark be removed and reasons why!
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Reason #1 WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF YOU!!
REASON #2 IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR!
REASON #3 REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!
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YES MURPHY WE ARE INSPIRED NOW!!!!!!
I won the first also I said yes on debate, but I said no on the #2 (so far I’m right on that one). see post #23
Great article:
THE BRILLIANCE OF MCCAIN’S MOVE
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
Published on DickMorris.com on September 26, 2008
McCain has transformed a minority in both houses of Congress and a losing position in the polls into the key role in the bailout package, the main man around whom the final package will take shape. He arrived in Washington to find the Democrats working with the Bush Administration to pass an unpopular $700 billion bailout. The Democrats had already cut their deal with Bush. The Dems agreed to the price tag while Bush agreed to special aid to families facing foreclosure, equity for the taxpayers, and limits on executive compensation. But no sooner had McCain arrived than he derailed the deal.
Knowing how unpopular the bailout is with the American people, the Democrats are not about to pass anything without broad Republican support even though their majorities permit them to act alone. Instead of signing on with the Democratic/Bush package, the House Republicans are insisting on replacing the purchase of corporate debt with loans to companies and insurance paid for by the companies, not by the taxpayers. That, of course, is a popular position. McCain would be comfortable to debate this issue division all day. And, if the Dems don’t cave into the Republican position, that’s probably exactly what he’ll do on Friday night’s scheduled debate in Mississippi.
But the Democrats are not about to be stubborn. They know their package is a lemon and need the political cover of Republican support. So the Republicans can write their own ticket — and they will. John McCain will be at the center of the emerging compromise while Obama is out on the campaign trail kissing babies. If the deal is cut before Friday’s debate, my bet is that McCain shows up in triumph. If it isn’t, he shows up anyway and flagellates Obama over the differences between the Democratic package and McCain’s.
By Monday, at the latest, the Democrats have to cave in and pass the Republican version. They don’t dare pass their own without GOP support, so they will have to cave in to the Republican version.
Then McCain comes out of the process as the hero who made it happen when the president couldn’t and Obama wouldn’t. He becomes the bailout expert.
And, of course, the bailout will work. With the feds standing behind the bad debt, whether by purchase or loans and insurance, Wall Street will breathe a sigh of relief. Bears won’t dare bet against the economy with the entire weight of the federal government on the other side. They may be bears but they are not rabid.
Finally, McCain, as the reigning expert on bailouts, then can take the tax issue to Obama, saying that a tax increase, such as the Democrat is pushing, would destroy the bailout, ruin the economy, and trigger a collapse.
This bold move by McCain is about to work. Big time.
Go to DickMorris.com to read all of Dick’s columns!
Isn’t Jim Lehrer an Obot?
You forgot to add an option—–Who cares?
Murphy, you seem quite excited about hearing a Republican speak. Fascinating.
#213 – good ole sucky toes dickie had it right again – can’t stand the slime but he said the same thing last nite on one of the fox shows – don’t remember which one – mccain comes out smelling like a rose & poverty pimp smells like old dirty gym socks……………………
ANDY MARTIN SAYS WE SHOULD NOT DEMONIZE HOMEOWNERS WHO FAILED; WE SHOULD TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, NOT THROW THEM ON THE STREET
ANDY SAYS TREASURY SECRETARY PAULSEN’S POLITICAL INEXPERIENCE IS A STUMBLING BLOCK
ANDY REPEATS HIS “MCCAIN MANTRA:” MCCAIN IS A FIGHTER PILOT. NEVER FORGET THAT FACT
(NEW YORK)(September 26, 2008) The next time some American politician criticizes Iraqi politicians for behaving badly, the Iraqis should roll a tape of Washington in action during the “Begging Banker Bailout Caper.” Democracy is messy, and independent politicians cannot be corralled. I say three cheers for the House Republicans that have blocked the proposed Wall Street bailout.
There are problems aplenty in this political bouillabaisse. The treasury secretary is one of them.
We always hear “politicians” derided. But politics and politicians are essential to the functioning of democracy. In Baghdad or Washington. People do have to make deals, negotiate settlements, and work together on a continuing basis. And, finally, politics is not a perfect business. People do make mistakes. There are delays. Egomaniacs. Bad actors and backstabbers.
Hank Paulsen is not a politician and he has no political experience. He is a Wall Street trader and former manager of one of the wildest of the investment banks. Successful executives such as Paulsen are used to making decisions and giving orders, and expecting subordinates to fall in line. Sorry, Mr. Secretary, that is not the way Washington works. I went to Washington, DC to work on Capital Hill 42 years ago. I know of what I speak. Politics hasn’t changed in 42 years even if the people have. Politicians will do what is in their best interest, and their best interest involves satisfying their constituents and getting reelected.
During the Viet-Nam era Speaker Sam Rayburn is said to have remarked of the “brightest and best” on President Johnson’s staff, “I wish one of them had run for sheriff.” http://president.uoregon.edu/speeches/whatgoesaround.shtml
I will echo Rayburn and say I wish Paulsen had run for office before he became treasury secretary. He would have a better idea of how political give-and-take operates. Trying to scare Americans into accepting a bad proposal is not working and will not work.
Here is the reality: There are better options than the bankers’ bailout proposed by Paulsen and Bernanke. House Republicans have done the entire nation a great service by stymieing a bad deal that would have negative long-term consequences.
In a partial repudiation of the bailout deal, the Washington Post reports today that smaller banks are doing fine and there is plenty of money available to lend. That’s what I reported yesterday. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/25/AR2008092504155.html?hpid=topnews
So what’s the hurry? Chase Bank just swallowed Washington Mutual without a bailout and without a guarantee. On the contrary, Chase turned around and guaranteed WaMu’s uninsured deposits. How’s that for a twist? Does Chase see something that Paulsen doesn’t? Maybe the word is “opportunity.”
Foreigners just don’t understand America, they don’t understand Americans and they don’t understand how we deal with economic challenges. The famous economist Joseph Schumpeter coined the term “creative destruction” to explain what happens in a dynamic capitalistic economy such as the United States. People are always going up and going down. Making money and losing money. As long as no criminal activity is involved, Americans broadly accept those dynamic social parameters. Unlike Europe, there is no sin or shame in economic failure. Pick yourself up, and start over again. That’s the American way.
Wall Street may be caput, but Main Street is doing fine. Bank of America and Chase are expanding while wheeler-dealer investment banks collapse. What’s the big deal? Democrats want to badmouth the economy to win votes. Republicans have been intimidated by the Democrats’ aggressive negative rhetoric. Well. Yes, we are in a slowdown. But, yes, the “economy” is us, and we are just as inventive and productive as ever. Never sell the American economy short. You can “short” stocks. Don’t short the economy. It’s us.
House Republicans say they want to create incentives for the people who made bad loans to administer them. Makes sense. Three cheers. Keeping the government out of the economy should be praised, not condemned. Leave us alone.
Liberals and Obamabots want to erase the history of the past two decades. I strongly disagree. I do not believe America made bad choices even if some people were bad individuals. I strongly believe in supporting home ownership for everyone. I am glad there was a bipartisan consensus to push homeownership to the outer limits of possibility. We didn’t fail just because we ended up with a few bad loans.
I have been complaining about the artificial “crisis” for the past eighteen months. Repeat, there is no “crisis” in home ownership, even if a few borrowers were over-extended and a few mortgage lenders engaged in fraud. Both Republicans and Democrats worked to expand home ownership. That was a praiseworthy goal.
And guess what? When you lend trillions of dollars, some loans will go bad. Any banker will tell you that. So you focus on the bad loans, not on the good economic system that was opening up home equity to more and more people, to working families and minorities. Thank you Republicans; thank you Democrats. As for the few crooked lenders, “Book’em Danno.” (I’m on my way to Hawai’i.)
In banking, when you make more loans, you will sustain more losses. What is the surprise? Slightly riskier loans will have slightly higher rates of default. I don’t see 5% or even 10% of sub-prime loans in default as being bad, compared to the 90% who got to own their own homes and are current. I continue to believe regulators panicked in 2007, attacked a nonexistent crisis, and have tried to blame people who were trying to boost themselves into home equity as the villains. They were not villains. When will some politician stand up and speak the truth?
Please someone defend homebuyers who tried and failed to move up the economic ladder. They were our friends, family members and neighbors. Why not help them get through hard times instead of throwing them on the street? Hello Republicans. Can’t you see the opportunity in helping people instead of heartlessly saying “kick’em out?” They were Americans. I don’t blame any honest borrower that may have had problems. We told people to dream of home ownership, and they did. All to the good. Now we want to brand them as enemies of the state because some ran into hard times? Not me. We should be encouraging them to try again, as soon as possible. That’s the American way.
I blame regulators for pulling the carpet out all at once, without warning, and changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game. That regulatory perfidiousness is what has caused our phony “crisis.” The entire “crisis” is a figment of the imagination and reflects politicians trying to solve a problem that does not exist. Are lenders more cautious today, maybe slower right now? I sure hope so. So why do we want to open the spigots all over again, all at once with $700 billion in fast cash? Why not let the markets slowly sort out the bad paper, instead of trying to “unclog” (Bush’s term) the markets with a grand gesture? Grand gestures as often as not lead to grand failures.
The “payoff pitch” (baseball), or slap shot (hockey) in all this? The Democrats, who control Congress and can pass any law they want without Republican support, know they are on a dangerous course. That’s why Democrats are insisting that Republicans endorse the bad bank bailout law. If Democrats thought they had a solid program, they could pass their proposal and send the law to President Bush, thereby embarrassing and trumping the Republicans.
Instead of taking strong independent action, Democrats are taking the opposite approach. They refuse to act unless the Republicans join them in driving over the cliff. There is no stronger evidence that Democrats know the bank bailout is a bad law and would receive a hostile public reaction. I repeat: three cheers for the House Republicans.
Finally, McCain and Obama. Yesterday I suggested that McCain and Bush blundered in inviting Obama to the White House. Obama in turn may have blundered in taking a leadership role at the White House meeting. McCain was taciturn. Maybe Obama fell for McCain’s catnip. Now that Obama has stepped to the fore, he is going to become identified with the “Democrat” (properly “Democratic”) bailout, and he may not like the starring role that he arrogated to himself on Thursday.
McCain? Well I keep reminding people that McCain is still a fighter pilot. He is up in the air, trying to position himself behind Obama, preparing to fire his rockets up Obama’s tail pipe. Can McCain do it? We’ll see. Obama took the first bait. He was in the air Thursday, and he was acting as the squadron leader for the Democrats. “Point man” can be a vulnerable position in aerial combat against an experienced opponent.
Stay tuned. When the playing field and the battlefield are as confused as they are right now in Washington, interesting things can happen. Hey, that’s democracy. Don’t criticize Iraqis for acting the same way. Let’s hope that they do. Messy, ego-driven, contentious, contrarian, that’s democracy.
In the meantime, three cheers for the House Republicans.
My latest guesses: (1) the original bank bailout proposal is dead. Dead. There is no support for the bailout as written; I agree with McCain on that point. (2) Obama and McCain? Let’s see who lands and who crash lands. Too soon to tell.
Love your descriptive language, Susie….. especially “poverty pimp smells like old dirty gym socks.
LOL. So aptly put.
#211HPBoston: Yes…Major Prowl…please insert the great quotes provided here by nhforHillary…in post #188: Who is responsible? Let them know we know who is responsible in Congress!
Obama’s contribution to the bailout discussion – hitting the gym?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/anneschroeder/0908/Obama_In_town_working_out.html?showall
Who here has the 800 numbers to get in touch with our representatives…I am going to lose my mind.Acorn?
A fraudulent group, this is BULLSHIT!
#201 LotusBoy You rock!
216 maxgrader LOL I picked up on that, too. For a ‘radical, leftwing democrat to get excited to hear a republican speak says a helluva lot about this election!
SUBJECT: JOHN MCCAIN”S 2005 HOUSING REGULATORY REFORM ACT
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Bill Summary:
1/26/2005″Introduced. Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 – Amends the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish:
(1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and
(2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board. Sets forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions of the Agency, including provisions respecting:
(1) assessment authority;
(2) authority to limit non-mission-related assets;
(3) minimum and critical capital levels;
(4) risk-based capital test;
(5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises;
(6) enforcement actions and penalties;
(7) golden parachutes; and
(8) reporting. Amends the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation.
Transfers the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation. Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements. Abolishes the Federal Housing Finance Board.
The bill introduced in 2005 and John McCain was a sponsor. John McCain is on the record as being for regulatory reform and Obama and Biden along with alot of other democrats voted to block this measure. So McCain was for regulatory reform before Obama voted against it for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Notice above the mention of golden parachutes and capital risk tests.
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003:
‘These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008:
“This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac] “These are viable, strong institutions.”
Here’s a NYT article from Sept, 2007 –
the dems pushed for Freddie and Fannie to buy up all those defaulting mortgages. Paulsen and Bernacke (and Bush) were against the idea and foresaw what would happen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/business/21home.html
Feb of 2005 Alan Greenspan warned of the impending disaster for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae…in fact everytime he made a statement, he included this warning. Many times he tried to warn us.
2003 Bush tried to pass regulatory reform of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
god Bo just tries to sound so damn important,,ummmm I’ve been on the phone with Dodd and Reid and Paulson and some republicans throws those names around like he is such hot stuff. UMMMMMMMMM and iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii and ummmmm.
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Texas Darlin will be re-posting all the articles by Judah Benjamin and all the forensic articles about the COLB posted on Daliy Kos and factcheck.org.
For those that “are new” into this issue, Texas Darlin along with other PUMA sites have spent months, endless hours with historian and forensic experts to resolve the mistery behind Obama’s past incluidng birth place and various citizenship.
Please spend the time to learn what other fellow PUMAs have found out.
What do you bet now that McCain is going to debate that there will be fewer questions inserted re economy in the debate which is on the subject of National Security? You all recall that in the last couple of days, Obimbo and some others said that questions could be added re to economy in the debate…
Our economy and its condition raises grave questions re to our national security and therefore I presume McCain will link that early on.
221 Grizzly Wonder if he was listening to Ludacris on the headphones?
196 Caracal Carrie on 09.26.08 at 11:33 am Terry
you make me smile…
and Im a triple cancer so thats hard to do LOL
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WOW! A triple Cancer, that means you have the sun, the new moon and your rising ascendant in Cancer this isa hugh input and influence on your personality.
The Cancers I know have a very earthy sense of humor and project an intellectual play on words type of wit, which I enjoy..
Why is it my anxieties are NOT alleviated when Bimbo announces he’s been on the phone all morning with Paulsen, Pelosi, Reid and Dodd?!!! On second thought – no need to answer that question….
Then Bimbo announces the best thing he can do to help the situation is “get out of town?”
Yeah, that’s leadership at its best.
Go back to sleep, Bimbo. The one thing you’ve got right is: “You’re not needed in Washington. Not now. Not ever. Certainly NOT on Jan. 20, 2008.”
Just go back to sleep. Kiss a few babies if you have to. But GET OUT OF TOWN. I hope that’s one promise you WILL keep.
230 TerryDo
Im glad someone does…my hubby thinks I have no sense of humor….appearently the inability to laugh at fart jokes is the criteria for no sense of humor…LOL
If Obama would stop phoning all these people, maybe they could get some work done.
LOL I am a double Saggitarian with four houses in Sagg. No wonder I can’t sit still.
Washington Mutual bit the dust.
Anyone care to speculate how long it will be before Social Security goes down? I’m thinking within the next year.
Repub Shelby on Fox saying the bill was flawed b/c the Dems added ACORN to it. Fox reporter asks why a fraudulent group would get so much money from a bailout? Shelby says exactly, ask the Dems. Reid was so pissed yesterday when McCain was on his way, that he LIED to the press and said a deal was done. It was nowhere near done. McCain came back to do his job as a senior senator. Bozo does nothing but what Pelosi and Reid say and talks on his cell, works out at the gym and says uhhhhhhhhhh.
#231Brooklyn…Yeah…I love your resolution of the problem…Get out of town and stay there. Go home and do something useful..cut the grass on Mrs. Rezko’s lot next door to the house they helped you buy..Check the paint on the fence between her lot and your house, that she, paid for..go take a tour of your district and figure out how more cronies can get more money to do more of nothing on the to this day beat up unimproved housing that you facilitated money to Rezko for doing nothing with ..go dye your hair back…ask Michelle for more potty training lessons…do anthing other than continue to defraud the people by your fraud of a mouth, mind, and campaign.
PUMAS, please take the time to watch this, ok? It’s long but it moves fast.
“Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
Reid: McCain don’t show up.
Reid: McCain is interjecting presidential politics. Obama’s economic plan is super-fly!
Dodd: I should be under investigation.
1.yes
2.no
3.yes
4.McCain
5.Republicans
6.LE,LE,LE,LET ME SAY THIS
So far – I won the bet on the debate – there’ll be a debate
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/mccain-no-deal-no-debate/
Let’s see how the rest are shaping up
Ok now I am mad at Sherrod Brown he is trying to blame John McCain so NO RE ELECTING Sherrod Brown do you hear that Michelle47 he is a A**HOLE
Meeting with Bush turned into a shouting match by democrats. McCain calmly listened and commented that everyone has a right to their opinion. Obama tried to pin Paulson down on whether he thought the Republican plan could work..meeting adjorned. It was exposed that there were only 6 democrats that were crafting the bill and Pelosi was one of them and that the republicans were not onboard with screwing the American taxpayer!
There was never a deal! That was just political manuvering by the democrats.
The Republicans have been working for the last two days on one of the three options presented by Paulson to deal with the crisis. We can buy bad debt. Insure it, or make Loans that secure it.
The Republicans think we should insure it. The American people having been calling their offices and are angry that they are being asked to pony up when Main street didn’t cause this crisis.
It’s a plan that favors the taxpayers. The wallstreet companies would buy insurance to pay for their own rescue, instead of the American taxpayer being stuck with a bottomless pit of worthless paper.
Then the capital gains tax would be rescinded to move the economy and to free up capital – every business would jump on this as an opportunity to expand their businesses.
It makes more common sense for us!
#223 ipotter – thanks. I am waiting for the next chance.
Frankly I think a lot of woman are better at absorbing current situation (among most DEMS)
This is very interesting, and something I had not focused on before. We are currently running at about $50 billion a month in foreclusures/serious mortgage defaults. Of that figure, 40% of that problem comes from one state – California. http://mrmortgage.ml-implode.com/2008/09/23/mortgage-defaults-already-at-50bb-per-month700bb-wont-go-too-far/
I saw the lending frenzy in California first hand. Property values were so high there that lenders had to come up with novel programs for loans. Option ARMS, negative amoritization loans (where the principal balance actually INCREASES over time), interest only loans, etc. While Congress is trying to tell us this is a problem arising from predatory lenders making dastardly subprime loans, it is not those subprime loans that are causing the biggest problems.
The theory in California was that values would always go up, and based on that people were willing to make loans up to 100% of the home’s value. And getting into an adjustable rate loans was not an issue, since many borrowers just rolled over to another ARM before the loan was set to set to adjust.
We have ONE state that is dragging down the rest of the Country. And the two biggest lenders in California, Countrywide and WAMU, are now gone. Incredible.
If the House gets majority then you just supported ACORN!!
When Social Security fails, these will definitely be perilous, uncertain times in America. God be with us.
Commentary: McCain has his priorities straight
Editor’s Note: Ruben Navarrette is a nationally syndicated columnist and a member of the editorial board of the San Diego Union-Tribune. Read his column here
(CNN) — Tonight’s presidential debate in Oxford, Mississippi is being held hostage by the financial crisis. And, given the seriousness of our predicament, that may not be such a bad thing.
Ruben Navarrette Jr. says John McCain showed real leadership by trying to assist with the bailout deal.
If this debate ever takes place, the format should be revamped to focus not on foreign affairs as planned, but on the one thing every American is talking about — the economic crisis.
It would be surreal to watch Barack Obama and John McCain debate what to do in Baghdad or Kabul when the country’s attention is fixed on Wall Street.
At some point, the candidates will have to make plain what they would do to fix the economic crisis, restore Americans’ confidence and rally their respective parties in support of a common vision.
It’s not enough for them to show that they understand the problem. They have to lead the way to a solution and show that they have the will, courage and strength to get us there.
Earlier this week, McCain abruptly suspended his campaign and requested that the debate be postponed until Congress finishes the heavy lifting of approving a bailout. That put Obama and McCain in a classic Mexican standoff with each trying to look presidential, while attempting to map out a course that would benefit him politically.
Some in the Obama-friendly media were quick to dismiss McCain’s move as a political stunt. I don’t know. It’s not like launching one’s candidacy in Springfield, Illinois, in the hopes of conjuring up comparisons to Abraham Lincoln, or moving one’s convention speech to a football stadium to accommodate a larger crowd.
I think McCain deserves applause for having his priorities straight and for showing real leadership. For the past several days, the media and members of both parties have been scaring the daylights out of the American people by calling this the most serious economic crisis since the Great Depression.
This week, President Bush warned that our current situation threatens not just the lending industry but also the entire U.S. economy.
After all the doom and gloom, pundits were then surprised when McCain decided to temporarily suspend his presidential campaign and return to his day job in Congress, where he tried to work out a bailout deal with his colleagues. Well at least most of his colleagues.
Despite having decried the economic crisis in near-apocalyptic terms in an attempt to lay blame on President Bush and, by association, McCain, the junior senator from Illinois didn’t feel the urgency to show up for work and try to do what he could to address it. Obama certainly has standing and more than his share of influence. This is, after all, the de-facto leader of the Democratic Party.
Unfortunately, he also looks like someone who is so focused on what he hopes will be his next job that he has lost interest in his current one.
McCain showed real leadership this week. And frankly, if we were more accustomed to seeing that sort of thing from our elected officials, we might be less cynical and better able to recognize it on the rare occasions when it surfaces.
The clock is running down on the Bush administration. It is almost time to hand off the baton. The financial crisis will no doubt become McCain’s No. 1 agenda item if he is elected president. Or it will be Obama’s No. 1 agenda item if he is elected.
This issue is as difficult as they come. I get that. It requires making sacrifices, wrestling with tough choices and telling Americans the hard and unpleasant truth — all the things that politicians hate to do.
Too bad. The presidential candidates can’t run from this issue any more than the rest of the country can. That’s why both of them should have cleared their plate and gotten to work on a solution. But only one did.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the writer.
Ok, there’s an earmark for Biden, earmark for ACORN, what other earmarks are attached to the bailout?
WaMu got bought out yesterday – can’t remember who bought it.
Both parties played US taxpayers like a violin.
We Will Remember in November
Who do I support right now for PRESIDENT. Who do I have the most trust in doing the right thing.
1. Hillary by far the super best. I have complete faith and trust in her and Bill. She is my favorite all time winner. I will support her under any circumstances.
2. Sarah Palin. I disagree with her on some issues like abortion. However, overall I do like her as a regular person and would be happy to see her as President if McCain were to die in office.
3. McCain. I like his fighting spirit and his ability to cross party lines. He would make a good Democrat in other circumstances. I trust him to have the good of America in his heart.
4. Murphy for President. I really trust her and her policies are great. I love her ability to fight for what is right and just. She also is a regular person like all of us. I like the idea of a regular person as President. Too many crooked politicians in Wash DC.
5. Dont even ask me. The others drop into H3LL. Tar and feather the crooks.
I am really pulling for Phil Berg to win the court case. That would be soooooo GOOOOD.
One thing that always made me go WTF – I used to watch those house flippers – ya know – the big makeovers, etc. & I’d see the finished product and they would be saying $500,000, $750,000 or even a million for a cheap piece of junk – no wonder the housing market is a mess – greed – greed – greed – and it always comes back to bite the sane person who didn’t buy into the shit in the ass – we pay – just a higher form of welfare as far I can see……………………….and we just keep enabling it
#249 1gypsy4mc
JP Morgan. It is business as usual for WAMU, bank opens today for business.
Hey can we do a prowl on the ACORN situation on all of the media in the PAC?
#236 NewOrleansPuma
You just made me LOL, literally! Especially the part about “mow the loan.” LOL. I meant to type: “lawn” but the gods of apropos comments edited them from “lawn” to “loan.” I think “loan” would be a better choice of language.
I am certainly not an economist, but if I wer in congress my proposal would be this……
All the bundlers holding paper mortgages, here is what we will do. We are ordering you to negotiate with all the people in these homes, you will put into place fixed rates loans. You will lose quite a bit of your investment, too bad. Most people will be able to make their payments, payments that they more than likely had before you all jacked the rates up for your own greed. Getting monthly payments that people can and will pay is better than sitting upon empty homes with no income at all. You will not get rich, but within a couple of years your company will be much more stable.
I know there is quite a bit more than that involved, but that sure as hell would fix it for the homeowner at present time. They sure as hell would not need to be bailed out if they had fixed rate mortgages they could afford in the first place.
#2491gypsy: I think it is JPMorgan.
#254 Caracal Carrie
YES! I already sent the URL to Hannity & Colmes, OReilley & Rush Limbaugh.
One more comment and then I’m going on an attack…
I do not believe B. Hussein will be there to VOTE!
253 Asian4Hillary Thanks Asian..
Dodd’s proposal:
* A provision that would require the Treasury to take a 65 percent portion of 20 percent any profits it makes from the newly purchased assets and put it into the federal government’s HOPE program, an affordable housing program.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Dodd_bill_much_more_aggressive_than_Treasury_plan.html
Asian what url did you send them?
NewOrleansPuma – thanks to you too!!
Ok, just got back home. For whoever it was who asked, YES, the original plan was that 20% of the entire bailout amount would be going to ACORN.
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I see McCain WILL be at the debate. Question…. do you suppose that gives Obama the “edge” for “winning” on this issue?
#255Brooklyn: As we say here…Yeah…ya right!
LOL Brooklyn!
Asian, I am blaming the democrats. This video is persuasive and I’ve learned enough in the last week to really get sick. I know it’s both parties who are to blame, but the democrats really SCREWED UP.
“Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
#12 osaka puma
“couric and the rest of those main stream jackals are always trying to setup sarah for a fall ..PUMAS should know this!”
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I agree…
…and I also read the comment from the person who started the dialog from downstairs and instantly thought “This is not a PUMA” but rather someone trying to instigate dissention. To quote a line from a Steven Segal movie “Assumption is the mother of all F**kups.” My point being that just because the comments are made on this blog… don’t assume they are from PUMA’s
WaMU was sold to JP Morgan Chase for 1.9 billion.
Carrie,
This URL
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76234
Thanks Asian….Im going to put it out to media now too
You know these people in Washington who are in office could give up just $2000 a month off their salary for just six months and that would help greatly.How much money does one actually use? and need to live?
KarenWi: Hi…NO…..if you mean the issue of economy or bailout. I think McCain will draw a link between economy and national security..well someone will…
actually either commentator or Obimbo will try to make the link as soon as possible to coopt the issue tonight.
I want to watch the debates but my tolerance for Obimbo is no seconds by this point..I do not know how I will tolerate it. The man repulses me.
#263 KarenWI
No. It won’t help Obama (in my opinion) anyway. Obama still has to explain why he wasn’t even going to bother to show up AT ALL until shamed to do so by McCain and scolded by Bush.
Makes sense that Bambi was on the phone all morning. He doesn’t make decisions on his own. Leadership at its best. He takes orders from Paulsen, Reid, Pelosi, Dodd. So why does he need to be there anyway. We can just as well get his positions straight from whence they come: Somebody’s else’s mouth.
268 Asian4Hillary When I clicked on that video it said: “This URL contained a malformed video.”
263 KarenWI IMHO – McCain had to do this – it’s what he’s about. Negotiations weren’t even close!! He pulled their bluff – now he’s gonna kick butt – but I won’t bet……… I’m already in the hole $5.00!!
#269 Caracal Carrie
That news is from Jerusalem, ISRAEL.
Our local media is not reporting that.
so they might —might–have to give up the caviar and champagne for a week..would it hurt them? they caused this– by allowing poor business practices and law breaking to be ignored– let them pay
Alice,
there is no video on that..its straight news, all texts.
Obama was the cause of the failure of the negotiations yesterday:
Barack Obama and his Democratic colleagues in Congress blasted John McCain on Thursday, accusing him of injecting presidential politics into the high-stakes debate on Capitol Hill over economic bailout legislation.
The round of recriminations came after the two rival candidates left what was supposed to be a landmark summit with President Bush and congressional leaders. Aides and officials in the meeting said the discussion ended badly, with Democrats fuming at House Republicans over their refusal to drop objections to the administration’s proposal.
But they also spread the blame to the Republican presidential nominee, who on Wednesday announced he was suspending his campaign to work on the negotiations and called for such a high-level meeting of candidates and officials in Washington, D.C.
“Here’s my observation and I think this may have been confirmed at the meeting today — when you inject presidential politics into delicate negotiations, sometimes it’s not helpful. The cameras change things,” Obama told FOX News after the meeting ended. “It’s not clear to me that having presidential candidates in a high-profile way in the negotiating process is useful.”
Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill were more blunt.
“He’s slowed it down,” Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said of McCain’s impact on the negotiations. “The next thing we know, he’s in a position frankly where he’s making it harder to get things done, rather than help us negotiate differences.”
McCain’s campaign countered that he merely called for the final plan to have Americans’ confidence. The campaign claimed it was Obama whose presence disrupted the meeting.
“The Democrats allowed Senator Obama to run their side of the meeting,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a written statement released Thursday night. “That did not work, as the meeting quickly devolved into a contentious shouting match that did not seek to craft a bipartisan solution.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/dems-blast-mccain-after-bailout-negotiations-go-sour/
#2621gypsy: You’re welcome!
If anyone need any acorn info there is a lot on the puma-facts site..
http://puma-facts.com/ACORN.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Ohio.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Detroit.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Milwaukee.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Missouri.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/CSI.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Seattle.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Albuquerque.aspx
The CSI Link has info on past fraud as well.
It would be hilarious if Hillary walked out on that stage and said, “John McCain has asked me to speak on his behalf this evening and because we have been friends so long, I could not turn him down.” Uh, ah, uhmmmmm, good evening Barack.
Who ya gonna call?
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/26/who-ya-gonna-call/#more-5070
I think that BO thinks he can get up there and talk in cadence and America will fall in line. Narcissist!
It is hard to believe that people believe BO can debate. Go vote on aol:
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/the-debate-is-on-mccain-will-attend/172887?icid=100214839×1210334271x1200586525
#232
Im glad someone does…my hubby thinks I have no sense of humor….appearently the inability to laugh at fart jokes is the criteria for no sense of humor…LOL
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Carrie my 8 year old grandson thinks fart jokes are hillarious! He is a cancer too. Born on the 4th of July.
Well I linked all of the pages but it is awaiting moderation…
If anyone needs any ACORN info there is some on the Puma-facts site.
http://puma-facts.com/ACORN.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/CSI.aspx
There are more pages, but that’ll get ya started.
There was never a deal! That was just political manuvering by democrats like Reid, Dodd, and Frank.
The Republicans have been working for the last two days on one of the three options presented by Paulson to deal with the crisis. We can buy bad debt for $700+billion or Insure and make Loans that secure it.
The Republicans think we should insure it. The American people having been calling their offices and are angry that they are being asked to pony up when Main street didn’t cause this crisis.
It’s a plan that favors the taxpayers. The wallstreet companies would buy insurance to pay for their own rescue, instead of the American taxpayer being stuck with a bottomless pit of worthless paper. The value of the securities could then be determined, because there is insurance backing them up, giving them some value. The risk insured, and wall street would breath a sigh of relief.
Then the capital gains tax would be rescinded to move the economy and to free up capital – every business would jump on this as an opportunity to expand their businesses. Jobs would be created and credit would flow!
It makes more common sense for taxpayers. It doesn’t sell us down the river or mortgage our children’s future.
Call your reps and tell them we don’t want to pay for this bailout!! Wallstreet can do it. It’s about time they were accountable and took responsibility for their actions. Hey guys, want to buy some insurance to pay for your own bailout?
HP
LOL my hubby and son can laugh at them all day!!! I just have a very dry sense of humor compared to them. LOL
Emailed my congressmen twice: NOTHING FOR ACORN
The media is making me sick with their bias. Think I need to send messages to Couric, the women of the View, and a few others to let them know how stupid they look to people who actually understand that they are displaying their own form of prejudice and racism.
You know what? I am SO angry about the dems in Congress trying to shove in ACORN and MORE earmarks into this CRAP.
You all know how ACORN and Project Vote are campaigning for Obama. The stupid dems think WE are too stupid to realize they are trying to essentially have ALL of us pay for Obama’s campaign. Sickening.
I SWEAR I hope McCain calls Obama OUT tonight, and everyone and tells the world how he tried to stop this in 2005, and how all the republicans voted to stop this downward spiral and all the democrats voted against it.
I don’t care! I hope my party gets humiliated. I am so frustrated.
#242 nhforhillary on 09.26.08 at 12:18 pm
The capital gains tax is now a HUGE issue. bozo wants to raise it so high that it would again almost crash the the markets again. He’s going to have to do another flip flop.
268 Asian4Hillary So Obama IS at the vanguard of a terrorist attack on the sleeping and unsuspecting American public!!!
268 Asian4Hillary Perhaps that is why he appears so nonchalant about the financial crisis.
Kat
TT was just asking me if you are on here. (Her internet is down)
She is wondering if there is a “rally your delegates” thing for the ACORN situation.
Would love to get a media prowl going on ACORN.
#290 Alice1943
YEPPERS!!!!!!!
Well planned I say and supported by the DNC! Now you know who is our enemy.
#292CaracalCarrie and Kat…Yes…Yess….ask Murphy for Major Prowl…I already have.
Once again McCain STAND UP FOR THE PEOPLE. What the Democrats like Reid, Dodd & Frank had done? Bedeviled McCain!
I am voting against ALL DEMOCRATS this November.
OK how can we find who proposed the 20% to acorn?
#292 Caracal Carrie, here:
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
You have the OPTION to add more to it, so type in: NO MONEY FOR ACORN! (or something)
166 kat in your hat
Sent letters to congress…
Thats exactly what I did Kat! LOL
I have to say the Dem have lost me forever! I will never be a party to their party. I will stay Independent and no votes for ANY Dem’s this election from me, my down ticket will be repub to match the top!
I may not be able to beat em in MA but I sure as hell will be glad to see Kerry lose MORE than 1/3 of the vote!
Okay I am off to call and tell him that!
Does a body good, who needs milk!
#244 Grizzly Very interesting indeed! Wondered why last year they raised the mortgage limit from $417,000, because “median” homes cost more than that. (link provided in #190 Rabblerouser and below)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/business/21home.html
Maybe I’m out of touch, but around here $417,000 buys a lot of house, much more than most people need. Definitely not median.
AP poll: Few support Bush’s market rescue plan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_el_pr/ap_poll_financial_meltdown
HP Boston — on a roll!
BO appeals to the “me” part of society…those who want quick fixes and instant gratification. McCain appeals to those who are more cautious, want longer term solutions to problems, and are more concerned about country than just instantly meeting their selfish needs. McCain sounds more like Hillary than BO.
Good read on quick band-aid fix, …
http://www.newsmax.com/ruddy/bailout_housing_crisis/2008/09/25/134442.html
Murphy
Would be great to do a media prowl on the ACORN situation
A little humor: a video of Colbert Report last night interviewing the head of NOW: “Is Sarah Palin a woman?”
http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/09/26/the-colbert-report-sarah-palin-is-a-dude/
ACORN ACORN ACORN
Many of us (see below)
(are outraged that ACORN should be part of the bailout package, apparently pushed by Chris Dodd. We need to express our opinions to those who can make a difference.
NewOrleansPuma GREAT POST – could you repackage that into a prowl for the rest of us please [
] and post it here or in the action center? If NewOrleansPuma not still here, any volunteers among the fantastic writers we have among us?
#138 NewOrleansPuma on 09.26.08 at 11:04 am
For the recordL Acorn is a nonprofit; They have had over the years many agenda actions, but they are not a lender, they do not hold mortgages, they have not engaged in securities, so what the hell are they being earmarked for? Like a lot of other nonprofit groups across this country, who may only operate in local jurisdictions and do not have a nationwide coalition,
they have received funds from various government programs to do so called education re home ownership, and the like. There is no reason for this group, among nonprofits in this country, to receive money set aside for a bailout of lending institutions, except as a way for Democrats, and chief among them the DNC and Obama campaign to earmark a group that in fact has now focused in this election cycle on so called voter registrations. NO MONEY FOR ACORN IN ANY BAILOUT OR NEGOTIATION…EVEN IF AROUND THE COUNTRY THEY HAD NOT, AS THEY HAVE BEEN, INVOLVED IN ALLEGED FRAUD RE REGISTRATIONS.
MURPHY; WE NEED A MAJOR PROWL TO DEMS AND REPS IN CONGRESS DEMANDING EXCISEMENT OF THIS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND DANGEROUS EARMARK…
TODAY, PLEASE.
MEANWHILE lets all go sign that petition that #166 kat in your hat posted earlier:
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
#35 Silence Dogood
#52 Cassie
#56 Susie1945
#58 osaka puma
#60 1gypsy4mc
#61 KarenWI
#69 Lara08 — thanks for suggesting a prowl last night
#71 Henerietta
#83 john
#88 mimi1020
#90 vwade on 09.26.08 at 10:14 am
I say we do a prowl to the Dem & Rep leaders and say “Hell No!” to adding ACORN on this bailout. Tell them the American public do not want to support such a questionable organization.
#95 Kempion,
YES, since ACORN is being talked about in the media, right now is a good time to flood the MSM outlets and Congress with our PUMA information.
#101 Grizzly
I do think a healthy provision should be made in the bill for ACORN – with that money going to the department of Justice to prosecute this criminal enterprise and bring them to justice.
#106 Right to Vote
#141 BrooklynNY
#159 NewOrleansPuma
#198 ipotter
If I missed anyone –sorry L
SEE ALSO Caracal Carrie
There is a whole acorn section on our website too.
http://puma-facts.com
under the Acorn tab
Let’s be brutally honest here…all the dems in love with Obama wont care if he blows the whole debate, they are bought hook line and sinker.
Let’s pray McCain wins over the audience of independants and undecided folks.
Obama could ummmmmmmm and ahhhhhhhhhhh all night, Oprah would still cry her eyelashes off, as Donna Brazzila handed her handkerchiefs.
In case you missed this!
MEANWHILE lets all go sign that petition posted by
#166 kat in your hat :
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats”
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
#305
Murphy
Would be great to do a media prowl on the ACORN situation
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I agree Carrie……let us tell them WE KNOW what they are doing in Congress and they will pay dearly at the polls…no bailout!
And Murphy I see hamburger helper on Obuma’s bib!!
(I just looked at the link for Acorn on “Puma Facts” and that is not good enough.)
It’s important to know that Obama has been heavily involved with ACORN, which is a housing advocacy group that also leads very ambitious voter-registration drives through Project Vote. It also happens to be a notoriously corrupt organization that has been involved in scandalous episodes of voter fraud (numerous accounts) and also embezzlement (1 million dollars), and they are the sort of aggressive group that protests outside of mayor’s homes, etc.
Well, Obama worked with Project Vote (when he was a community organizer) as a director, among other positions (like lawyer for ACORN), to register citizens in Chicago to help shift elections, and ACORN certainly helped Obama with votes to get him elected in Chicago. Also, when Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund (with Weathermen terrorist William Ayers), he issued over $200,000 in grants to Chicago ACORN. As you can imagine, ACORN endorses Obama and they are helping him by raising money for a massive voter registration turn out. Problem is, they are a dirty group. Members of ACORN seem to get in trouble non-stop and are regularly in the news for some kind of arrest or controversy.
As you might imagine, there is concern that that there will be cheating in the upcoming election, and on the part of Obama and his communtity organizations…like ACORN and Project Vote. It seems to me that the republicans are aware of this issue. From GOP.Com, there is a little dossier on Obama’s connection to ACORN along with good articles: http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/ACORN.htm I have noticed that the RNC website seems to be on top of instances of Vote Fraud in the nation: http://www.gop.com/ycmtu.htm I also see on John McCain’s official website that he and his party have recently launched the Honest and Open Election Committee, which seems to be a group devoted to voter transparency and fairness. So, at the very least, the republicans seem to know very well what they are dealing with as far as Obama goes, which is a mild comfort, but I just want all to be aware of this group and the fact that they do not have a clean reputation and they are actively campaigning for Obama.
There is a lot more to Obama’s relationship with ACORN, and If you want to learn more here are some links:
CaucusAnalysis (page on ACORN)
“Obama’s Ties To ACORN More Substantial than first believed” http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/obamas_ties_to_acorn_more_subs.html
“The ACORN Obama knows” http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/25/the-acorn-obama-knows/
“Obama’s ACORN” http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
”Obama’s Acorn Part 2″ http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/25/obama%e2%80%99s-acorn-a-leftist-social-reform-group-part-ii-2/
“Inside Obama’s ACORN: By their fruits ye shall know them” http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=#more
“ACORN IV: Obama, ACORN, Citizen Services Inc: FALSE FEC Filings” http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/15/obama-acorn-citizens-services-inc-false-fec-filings/
Rotten ACORN: http://rottenacorn.com/
“Money Laundering Scandal?” (Obama/ ACORN) by Easton McNeal http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/20/money-laundering-scandal/
September 15, 2008:
ACORN commits fraud in Michigan http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/acorn-commits-fraud-in-michigan/
September 17, 2008:
ACORN Fraud in New Mexico Again http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/acorn_fraud_in_new_mexico_agai_1.html
In case you missed this!
MEANWHILE lets all go sign that petition posted by
#166 kat in your hat :
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats”
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
Note: you can edit to specifically include ACORN
I signed the petition & had the letters sent to my reps-no more earmarks – no ACORN – throw the bastards out of the mix – bunch of crooks lining their own pockets-
Still waiting to hear from Congress on my bailout….
Well Obama-ssiah claimed another victim to his Blackmail and his PR Blackmail again……….McCain forced to attend tonights debate……….uggggghhhh
“Obama had always planned to attend the debate and was aboard his plane preparing to take off when McCain’s announcement was made”
Yeh he’s on the plane running from Washington AGAIN worried more about TV speeching and “the next 4 years” than to talk face to face with the people involved to get a plan consensus.
“At this point, my strong sense is that the best thing that I can do, rather than to inject presidential politics into these delicate negotiations, is to go down to Mississippi and explain to the American people what is going on and my vision for leading the country over the next four years,” Obama told reporters aboard his campaign plane as they prepared to travel to Mississippi.”
“Obama told reporters that he had spent Friday morning on the phone with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and congressional leaders and he was optimistic that progress was being made toward a bailout deal.”
The one thing that drives me up the wall and makes me bald is this idea that O-boi thinks that he is doing something because he makes some phone calls instead of sitting down in a room in person with the people that need to be dealt with and being a leader and coordinator to get a consensus….and when he was in the room yesterday all he could do is argue and start a fight so what had been started was sent back to square one again.
So is that how he’s going to deal with Russia and Iran by phone and say “oh don’t do that or I’ll have to yell at you over the phone”…LOL
And if his starting angry arguments and fights is his way of diplomacy we can do without that too………….
All I have to say about him is WHAT A PIECE OF STREET TRASH WORK !!!!!! Get some SKILLS, Knowledge, and experience before you try to take over the world Mr. O-ssiah !!!!!!!!!!!
(((1 of 3)))
I’m in moderation because I have too many links, so, I am going to repost in 3 parts:
(I just looked at the link for Acorn on “Puma Facts” and that is not good enough.)
It’s important to know that Obama has been heavily involved with ACORN, which is a housing advocacy group that also leads very ambitious voter-registration drives through Project Vote. It also happens to be a notoriously corrupt organization that has been involved in scandalous episodes of voter fraud (numerous accounts) and also embezzlement (1 million dollars), and they are the sort of aggressive group that protests outside of mayor’s homes, etc.
Well, Obama worked with Project Vote (when he was a community organizer) as a director, among other positions (like lawyer for ACORN), to register citizens in Chicago to help shift elections, and ACORN certainly helped Obama with votes to get him elected in Chicago. Also, when Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund (with Weathermen terrorist William Ayers), he issued over $200,000 in grants to Chicago ACORN. As you can imagine, ACORN endorses Obama and they are helping him by raising money for a massive voter registration turn out. Problem is, they are a dirty group. Members of ACORN seem to get in trouble non-stop and are regularly in the news for some kind of arrest or controversy.
As you might imagine, there is concern that that there will be cheating in the upcoming election, and on the part of Obama and his communtity organizations…like ACORN and Project Vote. It seems to me that the republicans are aware of this issue. From GOP.Com, there is a little dossier on Obama’s connection to ACORN along with good articles: http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/ACORN.htm I have noticed that the RNC website seems to be on top of instances of Vote Fraud in the nation: http://www.gop.com/ycmtu.htm I also see on John McCain’s official website that he and his party have recently launched the Honest and Open Election Committee, which seems to be a group devoted to voter transparency and fairness. So, at the very least, the republicans seem to know very well what they are dealing with as far as Obama goes, which is a mild comfort, but I just want all to be aware of this group and the fact that they do not have a clean reputation and they are actively campaigning for Obama.
There is a lot more to Obama’s relationship with ACORN, and If you want to learn more here are some links:
CaucusAnalysis (page on ACORN)
http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/acorn/
307 RememberNovember Done!!
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“Obama’s Ties To ACORN More Substantial than first believed” http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/obamas_ties_to_acorn_more_subs.html
“The ACORN Obama knows” http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/25/the-acorn-obama-knows/
“Obama’s ACORN” http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
”Obama’s Acorn Part 2″ http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/25/obama%e2%80%99s-acorn-a-leftist-social-reform-group-part-ii-2/
“Inside Obama’s ACORN: By their fruits ye shall know them” http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=#more
Done!
Sent email to my two US senators and Congressman.
Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats
Write a Letter to Congress : 237 Letters Sent So Far
We demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the “Bail Out Bill”.
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork.
(((3 of 3)))
“ACORN IV: Obama, ACORN, Citizen Services Inc: FALSE FEC Filings” http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/15/obama-acorn-citizens-services-inc-false-fec-filings/
Rotten ACORN: http://rottenacorn.com/
“Money Laundering Scandal?” (Obama/ ACORN) by Easton McNeal http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/20/money-laundering-scandal/
September 15, 2008:
ACORN commits fraud in Michigan http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/acorn-commits-fraud-in-michigan/
September 17, 2008:
ACORN Fraud in New Mexico Again http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/acorn_fraud_in_new_mexico_agai_1.html
Sorry – I have Anna’s double post problem, only hers is probably technical and mine was lack of attention:(
#320 kat in your hat
And by #35 Silence Dogood, More ACORN voter fraud in Florida:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/700310.html
Make sure you sign the petition for EACH voting member of your household!!
Anyway, is Caracal Carrie the who runs “Puma Facts” website?
You have my permission to copy (and also edit, if you want) all 3 of 3 of my ACORN posts to your website for Acorn section.
Just “hat tip: kat in your hat”
312 kat in your hat
Sorry you feel it is not good enough.
I did not include any of the links you listed because they can be dismissed as republicans or opinions.
But as long as we do something I don’t care if its on all of the work I did or all of the work someone else did..Just do something.
ipotter, thanks…I will add it..it’s non-stop…
Just sent mine out to Sherrod stab you in the back Brown, Marcy Kaptur and i don’t know the other one. Added Acorn on to that also.
#323 1gypsy4mc
YOu can send your email to this, we need ALL PUMAS to send emails to Congress
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
Caracal: No, some (not all) of those links are newspaper links, etc.
I dont mind Kat..Im just trying to make a difference..It has been very limiting to stick to articles that are strictly newspapers.
Remember November: I just rewrote the post and lost it when I tried to repost here.. I will try again.
Rationalizing Obama’s Defeat
You must know the old joke:
A young man returns home from a job interview at a radio station, dejected. His mother sees his sunken face and understands immediately that something has gone wrong.
“My son! The sport’s announcer’s job—you didn’t get it? Nobody knows more about sports than you! How could they reject you?”
The son: “Mom, it was anti-sss …. anti-ssssssss … anti-sssssssssss … anti-SSSSEMMM-itism.”
Democrats are already preparing their excuses for the possible defeat of Barack Obama in November
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
#330: What do you mean, limiting to stick to newspaper articles?
The idea to start “Puma Facts” website is such a gigantic undertaking it almost boggles my mind. I certainly appreciate it though.
Only 291 letters sent to the congress so far – come on PUMAS – show them assholes some love – LOL
Kat
All of the links on all of the puma facts websites except for one are all from papers local to the story. So in staying away from blogs and republican websites, I have only included the information that can be verified in those stories.
john.. i think many of obamas supporters are racists..
334 Susie1945
Did you count me in the letters sent to congress ?
Puma-Facts now in the blogroll.
Please forgive the unconscionable oversight!
http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx
Thanks Murph
@335: Ok, but I provided some links to newspapers, and also some are historical facts like arrests and court dates, etc.
I can understand why it is limiting if we all don’t go down to the library and courthouses to pore through historical files and records.
It might be easier to have a “Puma Tips” re-name?
It’s really up to you. I just remember when you started that website, and I was thinking…omg, how to do that? You essentially want a puma wiki, because it says “facts” which would need a thousand sources. I dunno.
#310 just signed petition, and edited letter to congress as follows
I demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the Bail Out Bill!
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork.
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003:
‘These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008:
“This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac] “These are viable, strong institutions.”
Support the REPUBLICAN PLAN
There was never a BIPARTISAN deal! That was just political manuvering by democrats like Reid, Dodd, and Frank to attack John McCain for doing his job as a senator to help our economy. Actually the Republicans have been working for the last two days on a plan that doesn’t won’t cripple this country and taxpayers while mortgaging our childrens future.
I like their plan to provide insurance to secure the wallstreet risk or to loan money that will be paid back, it makes common sense! I’m angry because Main Street didn’t cause this problem and now you want us to pony up? Do that and it will be the last straw that the American people can take. We will have no reason to keep any of you in office. Is that clear enough?
I want a plan that favors the taxpayers. The wallstreet companies can buy insurance to pay for their own rescue, instead of the American taxpayer being stuck with a bottomless pit of worthless paper. The value of the securities could then be determined, because there is insurance backing them up, giving them some value. The risk insured, and wall street would breath a sigh of relief.
Then the capital gains tax would be rescinded temporarily to move the economy and to free up capital – every business would jump on this as an opportunity to expand their businesses. Jobs would be created and credit would flow! YES, EVEN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE!
Say NO to ACORN earmark! They have been reponsible for alot of voter fraud in registering new voters this year. They already got $500 million in a previous bailout, we don’t want them to have any more!!! Obama worked with ACORN and gave them $800,000. PLEASE DON’T FIX THE ELECTIONS WITH MY TAXPAYER MONEY!
completed letters to the House and Senate,And told them under no circumstances should the group ACORN receive any money from this wall street Bailout. This is a corrupt organization,and We the People are tired of it,s Illegal process of registering voters.
Incoming PROWL!
Look for it!
JUST HEARD ON TALK RADIO THAT THERE WAS NO DEAL REACHED YESTERDAY AS THE DEMS SUGGESTED. THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT SEEM THERE WAS A DEAL AND THEN BLAMED MCCAIN FOR BLOWING IT UP.
REALITY, DEMS WANT REPUBS TO JOIN IN THE DEAL SO THAT THERE CAN BE BIPARTISAN RESPONSIBILITY IN THE EVENT OF FAILURE…..THINK ABOUT IT….. THEY DON’T NEED THE REPUBS – THE DEMS ARE THE MAJORITY. THEY CAN PASS THIS BILL WITH OR WITHOUT THEM, WHY THEN, IF THEIR BILL IS SOOOOO GREAT, DO THE NEED THE REPUBS ON BOARD…..GREAT POINT!!!!!!!!!! HMMMMM
ALSO HEARD THAT AT THE MEETING YESTERDAY ALL DEMS DEFERED THEIR ARGUMENTS TO OBAMBI TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THE “BAIL OUT” BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO BLEW IT. THEN THE MEETING GOT OUT OF CONTROL AND OBAMBI WAS NEVER ABLE TO GAIN CONTROL…..HE IS SUCH A LOSER!
Chris Wallace on Fox -wow what an OBOT…is Fox going into the tank ? Will I have to just turn OFF all stations and depend on the net for news ? How in the world can the democrats and the media support the Socialist/Marxist candidate Obama ? With the massive voter fraud staring us in the face , how can we stop this ??Obamas bundler “Pink Code” had a meeting with Irans despot, WTF ????? Does our new Democrat party want to become the DOWNFALL OF AMERICA ?? Can anyone make sense of all that is happening ?
the democrats are not going to remove the ACORN earmark..question is will the GOP cave in to the democrats and let it pass
It isn’t that FOX supports it – they are expected to pass on the latest news………it’s just a “hype”.. but when you think about it, that’s why we’re out PROWLING!!
REMEMBER NOVEMBER and KAT IN YOUR HAT (sorry if I missed anyone else – scrolling through very rapidly)
Thanks for posting the link to e-mail Congressional officials. Added ACORN to my letter and also changed “we” to “I”. Seemed wierd to send a letter from myself and speak in “we” form.
I so wish there were a thousand sources that would not be so easily dismissed. When you can’t get the media to report on all of the information out there, you have to present what you can.
At any rate, whatever we use I say we prowl the heck out of this.
It say 315 Letters Sent So Far I think that’s pretty good for what a half hour :0
@344 mimi:
“JUST HEARD ON TALK RADIO THAT THERE WAS NO DEAL REACHED YESTERDAY AS THE DEMS SUGGESTED. THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT SEEM THERE WAS A DEAL AND THEN BLAMED MCCAIN FOR BLOWING IT UP.”
(Oh, totally, I saw it as soon as they stood there for the press conference yesterday. They want to blame McCain for being “political” but they are really the ones getting ridiculous. I listened to Reid and even Dodd today–these people are obnoxious.)
My Prowls are so unbelievably ugly — apologies.
Mamapuma is in Roswell and I have formatting issues.
Please try to work your way through it without giving up!
thank you.
I suppose today I will do things besides sit here and work on it. Good luck today.
I am having trouble posting anything other than this short post. I am still trying. Keeps giving me an error.
Caracal Carrie:
Please look at this website. Ignore all the flash of it, and just see how much info is there. The blog owner claims that all Obama lies, etc are documented.
Obama WTF
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/
There are a million topics and you have probably already seen this site.
Carrie,
Thank you for all you do, I appreciate it greatly.
I suck at the computer, I am an impatient Aries and hate to negotiate what I regard as a minefield!
Simple keep it simple is my motto so I can simply do it!
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4.John McCain
5. Republicans
6. Ummm, Ahhhh, Ummmm, what I-I-I-I said wasssss
ACORN
THANKS:
for the action:
#317 1gypsy4mc and for tip on including family members!
#319 Asian4Hillary
#327 slyt2
for the links:
316 kat in your hat
#318 kat in your hat
#320 kat in your hat
for pointing out previous link:
#322 ipotter
THANKS:
#328 Asian4Hillary
for letting us know that this link is a good way to communicate with Congress.
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
[Actually it looks up your House and Senate reps depending on zip code]
Is this in the action center? If not, I will send it.
#341 nhforhillary for great response and #342 tillerylakelady, too
WAY TO GO PUMAS – CAN’T KEEP UP WITH YOU!
THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE
I hope I did not miss NewOrleansPuma’s letter. She lost it
and was having trouble posting
We’ll be live blogging the Debate all the way through — so keep your cat channels tuned to Puma PAC.
And tomorrow on Murphy and Friends we’ll be doing an in-depth post-debate analysis with John West, aka Pacific John.
This will be a BIG weekend politically!!
I am just going to do the Prowl.. Ihave tried at least 4 times here to post the rewrite of the post re Acorn that Remember November asked me to do…Every time I get a 500or something error. I may try again, but I have to do the Prowl…Thanks Murphy for the PROWL RE ACORN>
Hi everyone..
Anyone see any updated polls since McCain suspended his campaign? Things looking good?
I am trying to keep optimistic about all this and hope that the obots will see the light and realize Obama is NOT the man for the job….
Is any of the bad things (lawsuit,etc) for Obama sticking. Can any of these things turn this around??
http://patriotroom.com/?p=2440
Fox News dug up video of Barny Frank talking about what good shape Fannie and Freddie Mac were. Talks of efforts by GWB and McCain as far back a 2001 to fix the system, lest we have a mortgage meltdown. Frank, Dodd ignored all this and now we have a mess…
New Orleans – That happens to me nearly every time. That’s why, to be on the safe side, copy and paste what you type into a word document before you hit the submit button in case it doesn’t go through. Then, at least you don’t have to re-type it. I find that I often have to hit submit twice, but the timing of when I hit it the second time is very touchy. If I hit it too soon, it often double posts, too late, and no post. sigh
Ah Hah! I see more to the Puma Facts site. lol. I needed to click more sub-links!!
#323 1gypsy4mc
YOu can send your email to this, we need ALL PUMAS to send emails to Congress
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
I edited the form letter and then added my own stuff which I copied below. Feel free to use my letter and edit however you want, if desired.The tool is quick easy and identifies all your reps in congress and sends it to all of them with one click!I encourage you to do this because they are listening to us now.
Do you really want to give anyone an open-ended check to destroy this country with???
Imagine Nobama using this bailout as his personal checkbook in the name of any “emergency”?
Obama does not want you to do this! Go tell them what you think!
#310 just signed petition, and edited letter to congress as follows
I demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the Bail Out Bill!
I feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
I will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork.
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003:
“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008:
“This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac] “These are viable, strong institutions.”
Support the REPUBLICAN PLAN
There was never a BIPARTISAN deal! That was just political manuvering by democrats like Reid, Dodd, and Frank to attack John McCain for doing his job as a senator to help our economy. Actually the Republicans have been working for the last two days on a plan that doesn’t won’t cripple this country and taxpayers while mortgaging our childrens future.
I like their plan to provide insurance to secure the wallstreet risk or to loan money that will be paid back, it makes common sense! I’m angry because Main Street didn’t cause this problem and now you want us to pony up? Do that and it will be the last straw that the American people can take. We will have no reason to keep any of you in office. Is that clear enough?
I want a plan that favors the taxpayers. The wallstreet companies can buy insurance to pay for their own rescue, instead of the American taxpayer being stuck with a bottomless pit of worthless paper. The value of the securities could then be determined, because there is insurance backing them up, giving them some value. The risk insured, and wall street would breath a sigh of relief.
Then the capital gains tax would be rescinded temporarily to move the economy and to free up capital – every business would jump on this as an opportunity to expand their businesses. Jobs would be created and credit would flow! YES IN OUR STATE TOO!
Say NO to ACORN earmark! They have been reponsible for alot of voter fraud in registering new voters this year. They already got $500 million in a previous bailout, we don’t want them to have any more!!! Obama worked with ACORN and gave them $800,000. PLEASE DON’T FIX THE ELECTIONS WITH MY TAXPAYER MONEY!
This was my letter and also hubby sent one too!
September 26, 2008
Dear Senator Kennedy,
Senator Kerry,
Rep. Tsongas,
We demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the Bail Out Bill.
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork.
Acorn is under investigation, VOTER FRAUD! what are you people thinking?
Keep it up Kerry Nov 4th will see you with less than 1/2 the vote.
You are forcing us to vote McCain, YOUR FAULT!!!
NO BAILOUT!!
Sincerely,
Have we finally lost our ever-lovin minds for good? For the last 9 months we’ve been griping about MSM trying to shove BO down our throats. We rebelled against that. NOW, MSM is trying to shove the need for this ‘bailout’ down our throats. Are we now a nation of sheeple that we can be prodded and goaded like dumb animals to believe anything we see or read?
rlp.. zogby has mccain up on obama
rasmussen has obama up on mccain
take your pick
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yes we are a nation of sheeple..
In case you missed this!
MEANWHILE lets all go sign that petition posted by
#166 kat in your hat :
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats”
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
Note: you can edit to specifically include ACORN
I say this hesitantly, for fear of being booted out of the group, which I know is democrat. I just need to “vent” here a little.
It makes me SO ANGRY that dems in congress are making this a political event. They are more concerned with their political god (“The One”) looking good and his opponent looking bad, that they lie about having a deal set up before hand, they accuse falsely (blaming McCain for ruining it), and refuse to do what is RIGHT for America. They were the ones who had it set to give 20% of the $700 billion to ACORN, not the repubs. Now I hear they want $52 million (or was it billion) more added on in pork barrel projects. What about America? Why do you care more about taking care of your illegal cronies like ACORN, and your pet projects, then US?!!! I’m sorry, but I am so very very angry at the dems on congress right now. When I hear that the majority of americans want a generic democrat in congress (by double digits I’d heard) over a republican in congress… well…. I feel like puking after all this! None of the dems who are stonewalling, lying, and padding the pockets of illegals and pet projects should be re-elected, but just watch… most of them will, with even more besides. WHY? What happened to serving US???? Boy I’m angry!!! Sorry…. hope this doesn’t mean I get kicked out. I just am so furious right now at what the dems are pulling!!!!!!!!!!
yeah karen,were going to kick you out
Anna7000: Thank you, Anna…computer guru I am not!
Gave up on trying to get through by phone – the switchboard must be melting!!!!
Emailed both Senators and Congressperson.
You can almost smell the pork in this bailout – Reid actually blamed McCain this morning while saying let’s not make it political – the very nerve of the Democrats. I’m so angry with all this and the primary and theft of the election I’m going to be hard pressed to ever vote Democrat again – and I’ve ALWAYS been a Democrat – even worked on Bella Abzug’s Mayoral campaign back in the day.
Anyone else having trouble sleeping with the lumpy mattress with their life savings?
Really glad to get the ACORN prowl and I’m gladly making calls. But the 800 nos. provided didn’t work. I got through via Senate Switchboard, 202-224-3121 and House Switchboard, 202-225-3121 which just gave me my rep’s direct no. since his lines are busy and they don’t do “hold.” I was shocked to see ACORN included in a taxpayer-funded effort to save the nation’s economy.
@372: Karen, I hear ya. I am very frustrated as well. Then it pisses me off more knowing that the liberal media will NOT tell it like it is.
#375 monap- if I had a life saving to put in the mattress to make it lumpy I would find it more comfortable right now than my non-lumpy empty mattress with no money, LOL….
#367 Alice1943
Just like MSM put WAMU customers in panic mode they start withdrawing money from their account. I called WAMU awhile ago and talk to a bank representative. She told me WAMU actually is financially sound with an asset of $300 billions. The non-performance account was $30 billion. WAMU was targetted for takeover since last year due to its huge assets. The media helped Wallstreet achieve that. The bank is open for business. I did not close my account with WAMU when other customers panic.
MSM is doing it again to the people of this country, in fact the media is now in the open campaigning for NObama and the people start to believe what the media says about McCain which is downright LIES in my opinion.
I read news outside of the US like the URL i’ve posted earlier, media in this country will not print it, talk about it on TV or radio. So I’ve forwarded the news to everybody in my email lists.
Prowl – 2/3s done:
Cornyn (R)
Cuellar (D)
Hutchinson (R) – number still busy!
#365 nhforhillary
Thank you! Sent your letter to both my senators and congressman here in PA.
KarenWi: Why kick out a PUMA with more elephant in her than donkey? Right now most of us sound and look like evolutionary flukes regarding our comments about both. Keep at it…GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROWL.
300 billions on their mainframe computer..they could always add on a few more zeros just to make us feel better..
#372 KarenWI: But with this bailout package being stalled it gives time for the whole charade to unwind and become public. It is nothing but an extortion attempt by Corporate America. If it works and they get rewarded, you can expect this behavior from every other company out there from now until the Gov finally shows some nads and tells them all to go to hell. The FBI is already investigating some of the short sellers and other characters in this vile little stunt so I think heads will roll. Meanwhile the DOW is up 5 points last time I looked. Hardly a crash.
#372 KarenWI
Having been a Democrat my whole life who would have sooner jumped in front of a moving train than voted for a Republican, I have to say: You have a lot of company in those sentiments you just expressed.
The Dems, in their present demonically-possessed state nauseate the dickens out of me. All I see is a bunch of two-faced, lying, manipulating, squealing crooks. I have no respect for them anymore. Still waiting for ONE, just ONE of them to step out and condemn the voter fraud, the sexism, the dirty tricks, the deliberate lying and misrepresenting of anyone BUT BS OBama’s positions,….I could go on and on and on. But I won’t.
When I see those shrill shills for Obama getting on TV screaming and talking right over the opposing representatives or the anchors/moderators in news interviews, etc. I wonder: “What in heaven’s name has happened to this party?”
I cannot support it. No matter how many years of the past I have. This party is UN-American and evil as it stands now. I have no shame in saying that. The only shame is in supporting such corruption and fraud.
I’m going to do prowl in a second. I want to go to youtube and see if I can watch how McCain debates. He needs to get hard-core tonight. Otherwise Obama will go off on his “This is a defining moment!” bs tangents.
Thanks for the GREAT link. Sent off my emails.
A Call To The House And The Senate “Do Not Add Ear Marks Into The Bail Out Bill Or You Will Not Have Our Votes For Your Seats”
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
Note: you can edit to specifically include ACORN
IOpian said…
Why do I get the feeling that in a generation or two there may be documentary makers that will be saying the words “and we thought it could never happen here.” (from gateway pundit)
Thursday, September 25, 2008
Missouri Sheriffs & Top Prosecutors Form Obama “Truth Squads” & Threaten Libel Charges Against Obama Critics
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/missouri-sheriffs-prosecuters-form.html#comments
Truth squads? What is happening to my country?
Oh and I just heard that when they finally got the chance to look at WA MUs books they found 20% of the loans were bad. So that is another piece of info that Wall Street was trying to keep quiet in order to extort a higher payment from The People for their garbage loans.
ACORN prowl
#356 HpBoston
I saw you offered to do a prowl on ACORN. I had told ANNA7000 I would but just can’t energy-wise. Will give you some info, tho.
This is the link to George Soros in which ACORN is one of his affiliations. He is the money machine behind nobo, DNC and has alot of affiliates.
This link will give you some interesting insight into where ACORN comes from plus all the fraud and embezzlement in the company. Please be aware, if the bailout includes any housing organiations, then I would make sure that it is not one of George Soros operations. He sets them up to meet his needs and fool everyone. Might want to read this a good piece of background work. Will send a few more things shortly.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589
THANK YOU
#213 bodi1313
McCain is right on this one.
EMAIL SENT – BUSY AT MY SENATORS NUMBER….BILL NELSON, FLORIDA.
BUSY SIGNAL FOR A WHILE, I HOPE WE JAMMED THEIR LINES TRYING TO GET THROUGH. OR MAYBE THEY ARE JUST NOT TAKING CALLS FROM US LITTLE PEOPLE ANYMORE….HMMMM…… ARRGGGGGG – I FEEL LIKE FLYING TO WASHINGTON AND FORMING A RUCKUS! (SORRY DON’T KNOW HOW TO SPELL THAT)
you can always count on one thing from the fat cats.. they will make out like bandits and you will not get s..t..
thats the real thing
#356 HPBoston
From WSJ, yesterday’s date.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/crl-testimony-acorns-voter-fraud/story.aspx?guid=%7B573B31D0-6AB7-4353-B8E7-91300F4DFF81%7D&dist=hppr
I also heard that the Congress peoples calls from home ran 50% no to the bailout and 50% HELL NO. So McCAin has strong ground to stand on even though the media will distort reality.
Bailey Prowl done!
If anyone needs direct telephone numbers for Cuellar, Cornyn, or Hutchinson then I have them. Let me know.
Yesterday, Kempion and me were the only ones here arguing against this bailout. Thank God people thought about it.
Then Seattle Girl joined us.
Phone call completed got through to switchboard,who put me through to my state Senators Office.NO MONEY TO ACORN
Sent letters to Congress,NO MONEY TO ACORN.
You know, I can’t help but be skeptical of this whole financial calamity. It reeks of the same scandalous “urgency” of the march to war pre-Iraq II. No time to scour the details. “Take our word for it. The sky is falling. Oh and by the way, give all this money to our corrupt cronies while you’re at it. If you don’t the sky is going to fall and the earth is going to reverse its orbit!”
Something seems just too fishy in this whole matter for me.
Harry Reid doesn’t have the peoples’ best interests in mind. He was crying his financial free-for-all almost got blown. Somebody (JM) actually wanted to look out for the peoples’ interests and he’s pissed about that. In the creepy double-think of today’s D party that’s a sin. A crime against the party.
Get your grubby hands out of the peoples’ pockets dirty Harry Reid. You already stole out votes; now you want to steal our money too.
Why does this feel like a hold-up? Like I’m staring down the barrel of a gun held by some guy with a nylon stocking pulled down over his face?
I hope McCain kicks his butt tonight!! GO MCCAIN!!
it looks like the american people want the government to be their daddy and mommie ..
look at the polls all these little sheeple cowards running to obama thinking hes going to warm their milk,burp themand change their diapers ..
i used to have confidence in the american public,but not anymore..
this country has gone down the tubes ..
the american people have become spoiled demanding babies only interested in american idol.dancing with the stars or some idiotic sports event..
bring it all down and lets start all over again..hate to say it maybe we need another great depression to knock some sense back into the heads of the american people.
neworleanspuma #382 — it’s the genetic flukes that power evolution! We’re intellectually advanced, that’s all.
Our minds are too subtle for the masses.
just ask the kalahari bushmen — the original geniuses.
kat in the hat and Caracal Carrie
I was just surfing the web and found these two links. The first one is GREAT! It’s a video on the history of this financial crisis. It’s fast moving and all fact with sources (it has a link to the sources under the video). It really nails it to the culprits.
http://logisticsmonster.com/2008/09/26/puma-politics-the-wolf-is-actually-a-democrat/
This other one is about Jodie Evans, Code Pink, going to Ahmadinejad dinner and making US proposals to him. A clear violation of the Logan Act. She’s a major Obama campaign bundler. She also said she had 50 mayors of US cities who agree, but I can’t find their names yet. Maybe she’s blowing smoke on the mayors. I dunno.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/top-obama-bundler-code-pink-co-founder.html
FROM DICK MORRIS:
THE BRILLIANCE OF MCCAIN’S MOVE
McCain has transformed a minority in both houses of Congress and a losing position in the polls into the key role in the bailout package, the main man around whom the final package will take shape. He arrived in Washington to find the Democrats working with the Bush Administration to pass an unpopular $700 billion bailout. The Democrats had already cut their deal with Bush. The Dems agreed to the price tag while Bush agreed to special aid to families facing foreclosure, equity for the taxpayers, and limits on executive compensation. But no sooner had McCain arrived than he derailed the deal.
Knowing how unpopular the bailout is with the American people, the Democrats are not about to pass anything without broad Republican support even though their majorities permit them to act alone. Instead of signing on with the Democratic/Bush package, the House Republicans are insisting on replacing the purchase of corporate debt with loans to companies and insurance paid for by the companies, not by the taxpayers. That, of course, is a popular position. McCain would be comfortable to debate this issue division all day. And, if the Dems don’t cave into the Republican position, that’s probably exactly what he’ll do on Friday night’s scheduled debate in Mississippi.
But the Democrats are not about to be stubborn. They know their package is a lemon and need the political cover of Republican support. So the Republicans can write their own ticket…and they will. John McCain will be at the center of the emerging compromise while Obama is out on the campaign trail kissing babies. If the deal is cut before Friday’s debate, my bet is that McCain shows up in triumph. If it isn’t, he shows up anyway and flagellates Obama over the differences between the Democratic package and McCain’s.
By Monday, at the latest, the Democrats have to cave in and pass the Republican version. They don’t dare pass their own without GOP support, so they will have to cave in to the Republican version.
Then McCain comes out of the process as the hero who made it happen when the president couldn’t and Obama wouldn’t. He becomes the bailout expert.
And, of course, the bailout will work. With the feds standing behind the bad debt, whether by purchase or loans and insurance, Wall Street will breathe a sigh of relief. Bears won’t dare bet against the economy with the entire weight of the federal government on the other side. They may be bears but they are not rabid.
Finally, McCain, as the reigning expert on bailouts, then can take the tax issue to Obama, saying that a tax increase, such as the Democrat is pushing, would destroy the bailout, ruin the economy, and trigger a collapse.
This bold move by McCain is about to work. Big time.
ACORN EMBEZZLMENT COVER-UP
A couple of more links on ACORN
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/acorn-embezzlement-scandal-latest-controversy/story.aspx?guid=%7B0978E2B3-7338-41CC-89B5-F2E7282E7B03%7D
http://www.rottenacorn.com
i didnt know bono and madonna were in the room?
red state.. lets just hope dick morris is right
Thanks Murphy for the PROWL RE ACORN
ACORN LETTER TO ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO USE IT. REMEMBER WHEN ADDRESSING THE OFFICIAL TO USE A COLON, NOT A COMMA AFTER THEIR NAME.
THANKS TO KAT AND REMEMBER NOVEMBER FOR PROVIDING THE INFO AND THE INSPIRATION.
I WROTE THE LETTER QUICKLY. IT COULD BE BETTER. ADAPT AS YOU SEE FIT.
I WILL ADAPT IT TO BE A LETTER TO THE MEDIA AND POST THAT ONE SHORTLY.
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I am writing to you as a concerned citizen as we all wait and watch to see how you and the rest of our Congressional leadership will negotiate a plan to stave off further financial and economic collapse. As I am closely following this story unfolding, I have been profoundly disturbed to learn that the non-profit organization, ACORN, may be slated to receive a hefty chunk of funds in this bailout package. I see no reason in the world for this to be the case. There are countless non-profit organizations across America doing outstanding work in all arenas for the public good. Why ACORN should be included is beyond belief considering that this group has a track record of engaging in voter fraud that dates back many years, and it is a record of deceit and illegal behavior that is ever-growing. As recently as this week, in Durham County, North Carolina, members of ACORN were being investigated for alleged illegal activities pertaining to false voter registration.
There is also concern regarding a conflict of interest since Senator Obama and his campaign have been heavily involved with ACORN, both in the past when Mr. Obama was a community organizer, and more recently in his presidential campaign. There is a mountain of evidence regarding voter fraud in all 14 Democratic caucus states at least some of which appears linked to ACORN’s activities.
I do think, however, that there should be a provisions made that will enable the Department of Justice to prosecute this criminal enterprise and bring their dubious activities to light.
It’s criminal that voter fraud has been perpetuated by ACORN. To imagine that this group would receive a single penny in benefits from any bail out package is unthinkable. Any elected official who claims to be concerned for the welfare of ordinary Americans could not possible consider including ACORN in any bail out package. I want my money AND our voting system protected.
I count myself among those who are closely watching what you do on Capitol Hill in these coming days and will surely register my opinion about it not only via the written word, but also at the ballot box on election day for as long as it takes to clean up corruption.
#403 osaka puma
It ain’t over yet, Osaka. Who knows what the final acts of this bad play will be.
I’m still clinging to the hope the light will shine through in the end.
(LOL. The “hope” is all I have left. Had to pawn my gun and Bible. j/k).
Hi, guys!
My good friend Miguel Lausell, whom I helped here in Puerto Rico to campaign for Hillary has just jumped over to the McCain ticket! See him here with Greta:
http://newstoday.smashits.com/video/GLycXNRVuqw/Hispanic-Hillary-Clinton-Fundraiser-Supports-John-McCain.html
Please pass it on to all latin americans you know! Miguel is a LIFETIME Democrat, no joke! He was advisor to Bill Clinton during his Presidency!
#328 I sent my letters from other voters in my house
YOu can send your email to this, we need ALL PUMAS to send emails to Congress
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-
I demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the Bail Out Bill.
I feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
I will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork.
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003
These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008
This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac]. These are viable, strong institutions.
I Support the REPUBLICAN PLAN
I like their plan to provide insurance to secure the wall street risk or to loan money that will be paid back, it makes common sense! I am angry because Main Street did not cause this problem and now you want us to pony up? Do that and it will be the last straw that the American people can take. We will have no reason to keep any of you in office. Is that clear enough?
I want a plan that favors the taxpayers. The wall street companies can buy insurance to pay for their own rescue, instead of the American taxpayer being stuck with a bottomless pit of worthless paper. The value of the securities could then be determined, because there is insurance backing them up, giving them some value. The risk insured, and wall street would breath a sigh of relief.
Then the capital gains tax would be rescinded temporarily to move the economy and to free up capital – every business would jump on this as an opportunity to expand their businesses. Jobs would be created and credit would flow! YES IN OUR STATE TOO!
Say NO to the ACORN earmark! They have been responsible for a lot of voter fraud in registering new voters this year. PLEASE DON’T USE MY TAXPAYER MONEY TO FIX THE ELECTIONS!
#404Murphy: Thanks for reminding me, especially since everything other than my mind seems to be going backways! Yes…the kalahari bushmen..among other things…their “red tea” …great stuff …
I come here for reassurance (been out for a while)… I echo osaka puma’s sentiments… All polls (except maybe for Battleground Tracking) are showing Obama is going to win… I am soooo scared…
Oops. Me thinks I did something redundant. Didn’t get the prowl yet. Sorry for taking up blog space if Murphy already got this one covered.
Can someone tell me what to put in for username when you go back into a McCain blog for the second time?
Is it your email address
your name
the nickname you chose? What?
if you want to take on ACORN…
the way you will get results is by organizing demos in front of ACORN offices around the country..
418 nhforhillary – the name you chose and your password.
I believe that the various groups of supporters behind Obama have their individual motavation factors;
AA’s is obvious, the rick and famous love to be in the spotlight and outshine one another, media is greedy and arrogant and go for the money, whites either truly believe he knows something, dems want to stay in power and are now afraid of the two mavericks, John and Sarah, who just may kick their corrupt butts.
You have to admit that the timing was ripe for the picking. Unfortunately, if Obama wins, we all go down the tube. Welcome Mr. Putin!
So who thinks McCain is going to kickbutt in the debate tonight???
wow, typos everywhere
motivation, rich,
sorry, trying to type and eat lunch at the same time.
damn!!!
i feel like kicking some ACORN ass this morning!!
#423 I believe McCain will, but who knows how the media will spin it.
#422 rlp33
uh.. duh.. : He won’t win
I’m betting on Mc
Here, this could also help you contact elected officials to tell them No ACORN in bail out plan:
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
# 372 Karen
Don’t worry about getting kicked out. What you say is absolutely true. I don’t think any of us can be very proud of Dem’s this election cycle. They are an embarassment.
#422 rlp33
MCCAIN IS GOING TO MAKE OBAMBI LOOK LIKE A WHIMPIE, SILLY BOY……NEXT TO MCCAIN, THE MILITARY FOREIGN AFFAIRS MASTER MANLY MAN! LMAO
I CANNOT WAIT FOR TONIGHT
GO MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#425
Yes, i know…. I wish the media would stay out of this or just focus on McCain. : )
There are many who look at this site and then there are many that do NOT… We need to get all the Obama crap (links to all his bad doings,etc) put them on flyers and post them EVERYWHERE!!! (or have we don’t that already?)
There has got to be a way to get this info to people who do not know about it. (and there are probably many)
GO McCain…kick butt tonight!!!
I love this guys! They say it as is! Watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NSCteV6obo
#422 rlp33
I think McCain will make Barry tremble under the pressure, causing him to spew “uhs” and “duhs” all over the place.
Prowled to my congressman and senator demanding no funds for ACORN.
mccain needs a knockout or at least a TKO tonight to turn the polls around..
the economy is taking its toll on mccains campaign
E-mails sent and calls made.
#432
I hope you are right…..but, then Hillary made him do that or the ” I agree with Hillary” and somehow he still got elected as the nominee (or chosen)
Come on McCain really twist things up tonight so he has no idea what is even going on….
I think MCain needs to talk about his bailout plan tonight so everyone watching can see that HE is the one that knows what to do….
lets send mccain a copy of “the art of war” by sun tzu
#433 osaka puma
Yes, but, I think that McCain can turn this whole Economic thing around during the economic debates. How? Well, I think that if McCain focuses in at least once on who is to blame in the first place for this mess (Unfortunately US the Dems) and says it like it is, maybe, the millions of people will start to understand that this whole Freddie Fanny debocle is certainly not to be laid at the feet of the Repubs – I would really like to see how Obambi tries to get out of that one!
Tonight – there is not doubt – HE WILL TROUNCE OBAMBI!
rlp.. i agree
K, pumas, really use this site, especially if you have unlimited long distance. http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
This may seem unethical, but I am not only calling my state reps but many states.
I get out of leaving my info by announcing that I am a X state resident and I am calling to say that I am against ACORN being included as an earmark in the bail out, and THEN I go on to say that I have started a petition, and I am from a group called PUMA, and I am trying to get some of “my people” on television to express our views on this matter.
They really perk up and take the message if you say you are from some organization (PUMA) and you will be going on TV to protest.
lol.
What’s up with Bozo wanting to debate so badly now? During the primary, he doesn’t want to debate Hillary anymore then he’s all I will debate John McCain anywhere, anytime. So after the sham roll call, McCain says ok let’s go debate, take it to the people, let them ask us questions, no scripts, no teleprompters, no prewritten speeches, no knowing the questions beforehand. Just the American people standing up and asking us questions. Bozo says uh no way. Now, he’s all gung ho to go to this debate at Ole Miss? Sounds fishy to me. Either Bozo forgot how much he sucks at debates or he has something up his sleeve……besides all the debate questions. I don’t trust that fraudulent, all talk, do nothing pandering loser.
mimi.. i hope mccain tears his liver out and eats it while hes drinking a nice chianti..
#435 rlp33
Barry has been riding on Hillary’s pantsuittails for months. He is on his own tonight. I hope I can stomach his irritating voice…he literally makes me ill…I am not kidding…no seriously.
#418 nhforhillary- when I cleaned out my computer “cookies” I had trouble getting back in the McCain site. The first time that happened I had to make a new ID. The 2nd time I tried the “forget password?” link by putting in my McCaing Blog ID (MacPalin). It somehow rememered the email address that was assigned to MacPalin and emailed me a link to reset my password, which I did, and then got in again… sometimes it takes several tries, though. Persistancy pays off, LOL.
#443Flasunshiner: I also do not know how I will tolerate even looking at this fraud. 11 months of this.
Actually, I concluded he was a fraud , the second time I heard and saw him…so ..it really is 11 months…He makes me physically ill, as well.
Thanks to all of you for allowing me to stay. I listened to enough GARBAGE being spewed by the dems on tv and felt like throwing something large and heavy at the tv screen. Fortunately, I stopped on time, realizing that what I threw wasn’t going to actually hit the TARGET (the dems on tv). Honestly, the garbage that comes thru that tv lately I’m surprised everything in it doesn’t burn out and melt from the heat of the lies and attacks! How can those dem leaders in congress even sleep with themselves at night??? How can they get up there again and again with straight faces and say such lies and such anti-american stuff??? When I say “anti- american” I mean things that don’t help US as americans, but just help them and their cronies…..
I won’t be watching…I’ll get the updates here….don’t even want to look at him.
Well, what a surprise. It’s perfectly fine for Biden to meet with foreign leaders where no press is allowed and pose for cameras. When Palin does it, it’s considered wrong and shielding her from the press. haha. Stupid bozo loving media.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/biden-meets-with-georgia-president-without-press/
rlp.. every time i see obama on the idiot box i see a walking pile of BS ..hehe
Actually, the debate with McCain will be a lot easier for Obama tonight.
The war is unpopular; Bush is unpopular, etc.
The debates with Hillary were hard because she was of the same party and her debating skills, ideas, and knowledge far exceeded Obama’s.
Tonight will be harder for McCain than it will be for Obama.
McCain needs to just get hard-core and not allow Obama to get away with his lies.
#442 osaka puma
ROFLMAO – THAT’S PRETTY VIVID!
#441Sisterluck,
I think Obama has something up his sleeve.I hope not but I think he has got the questions in advance.The way everybody is in the tank for him I believe the one asking the questions would do that. I hope i’m wrong,BUT!!!!
#417 Anna7000 on 09.26.08 at 2:21 pm
Oops. Me thinks I did something redundant. Didn’t get the prowl yet. Sorry for taking up blog space if Murphy already got this one covered.
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No it isn’t redundant and , as usual, a great letter. Thank you. Murphy’s prowl was the verbal kind.
However, me thinks I made a mistake in naming all those who were chasing an ACORN prowl because I missed all the folk in the #200’s. I cannot read/copy and paste at the same time (I am convinced that some of you can and do!) and i am so slow….. Anyone who knows me would tell you that i would never deliberately omit to acknowledge anyone
- you all deserve thanks for making a difference
I just can’t picture McCain sitting back and letting Obama get all the limelight tonight. I know he is older, but he is a smart man and I would think he would know what he needs to do.
Be on top of it tonight McCain…..
McCain08
#445 NewOrleansPuma
I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who feels the evil vibes coming from Barry.
I believe he is a mere hologram with no visible signs of humanity in his eyes. I agree with the quote that the eyes are the windows of the soul.
karen,
i’d love to be able to slap the crap out of those snotty little mainstream media talking head who have their lips planted on obamas behind….
thwack! thump! bang..zoom!!
Tonite’s debate should be interesting – it’s been a long time since I was in school but I remember when I was in 8th grade – we had a required class called Speech – we had to learn how to speak in front of people & put forth debatable issues – course this was 8th grade so the debate subjects were pretty juvenile but that’s what we were but it was a good learning experience and I will be curious to see what happens with the big boys tonite – I’m hoping that Mac makes poverty pimp cupcake look so stupid that people will be wondering what in the hell this idiot is doing trying to run for president – like ‘they’ say, it could happen…………..
McCain ought to do what Hillary did. How she had those town hall meetings with her supporters. That would be great!! I don’t think he has done this has he?
Maybe we should just try and get his email and personally give him our thoughts/advice….
QUICK QUESTION
Does anyone know if part of Clinton’s plan included the earmark for ACORN? Would be nice to know if were were touting that plan yesterday and didn’t realize it included this piece. Just curious.
What do earmarks like ACORN have anything to do with this bailout?
To shore up the bad loans that will keep more from defaults and have the taxpayers pay for that……….why are others (earmarks) getting something out of it at all???
Embedded profits to help Obama steal this election too on the taxpayers back.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Question ~
Does anyone know if McCain and Obama were given the questions ahead of time before the debate tonight?
KarenWI,
I know EXACTLY how you feel!
#441 Sisterluck
A couple of links about why bo wants to debate so bad. Apparently he has been more or less attending “debate school” this week. That’s why he didn’t want to attend to the crisis on wall street or cancel the debate… he certainly has his priorities and it shows.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/obama-sets-up-debate-camp-in-the-sunshine-state/
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/obamas_debate_camp_florida.html
These may not be the greatest links, but there are others out there.
yeah,no doubt tonights debate will be a real chess match.. i hope mccain has a good game plan
PUMAS, read this article about McCain when you have a minute. It’s interesting.
“Thinking About McCain”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/opinion/26brooks.html?_r=2&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Ok, want something ELSE to make you angry? LOL…. this in CNN:
Palin should step down, conservative commentator says
Posted: 02:27 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Palin was in New York City Thursday.
Palin was in New York City Thursday.
(CNN) – Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is “out of her league” and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
The criticism in Parker’s Friday column is the latest in a recent string of negative assessments toward the McCain-Palin candidacy from prominent conservatives.
It was fun while it lasted,” Parker writes. “Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who is clearly out of her league.”
Palin’s interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson.
“If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself,” Parker also writes. “If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.”
Parker, who praised McCain’s “keen judgment” for picking Palin earlier this month and wrote the Alaska governor is a “perfect storm of God, Mom and apple pie,” now says Palin should step down from the ticket.
“Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves,” Parker writes. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first. Do it for your country.”
Parker’s comments follow those by prominent conservatives David Brooks, George Will, and David Frum who have all publicly questioned Palin’s readiness to be vice president.
“Sarah Palin has many virtues,” Brooks wrote in a recent column. “If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she’d be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.”
I say if Obama plays dirty, then McCain plays dirty back – BUT , with class…. : )
BILLIE JO _ Thanks for asking. I wonder about that, too. You’re like when the teacher says: “Don’t be afraid to ask a question. If you have a question, likely other people in class do as well.” So, thanks for asking, cause I join you in wondering.
CAN ANY PUMA EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE “EARMARKS” IN A BAIL OUT BILL AND WHY SUCH EARMARKS WOULD INCLUDE ANY NON-PROFIT ORG?
BILLIE JO _ Thanks for asking. I wonder about that, too. You’re like when the teacher says: “Don’t be afraid to ask a question. If you have a question, likely other people in class do as well.” So, thanks for asking, cause I join you in wondering.
CAN ANY PUMA EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE “EARMARKS” IN A BAIL OUT BILL AND WHY SUCH EARMARKS WOULD INCLUDE ANY NON-PROFIT ORG?
Got Murphy’s prowl.
QUESTION:
Isn’t this negotiation primarily being worked out by members of the Finance Committee? If so, shouldn’t we be contacting all of them?
Media letter coming up soon —
Got Murphy’s prowl.
QUESTION:
Isn’t this negotiation primarily being worked out by members of the Finance Committee? If so, shouldn’t we be contacting all of them?
Media letter coming up soon —
oh
no
(am i the only one here?)
This is totally off topic. I was looking up something and came across this pic.
It’s an Acorn Woodpecker (they pack the acorns in the tree truck).
http://sdakotabirds.com/species_photos/acorn_woodpecker.htm
re#465
karenwi…
what ever happened to loyalty??
bunch of dirty backstabbing rats!
@ 472
oops…tree trunk.
what’s a tree truck?
um
#462 ipotter on 09.26.08 at 2:57 pm
Ah, no wonder. Bozo is overconfident now and has all his talking points and questions memorized. I think he was much more scared of Hillary than he is McCain also. Hillary is a master debater. I hope McCain shows to be a great one also. He does do well at town halls so that’s a plus since it’s conversational and answering direct questions. Here’s a comment on one of those articles you posted. Made me laugh.
“Here are the leaders we have:
Biden, a gaffe machine.
Obama, a do-nothing, vote-present, spineless leader.
McCain, old and bold
Palin, fresh and good-looking
None is true presidential material. Who is the lesser evil? McCain’s team.
Unfortunately, the best candidate (Hillary) is out.
Once again, the american people have managed to pick the weakest leaders. We can blame Bush all we want but remember it was US, THE PEOPLE that re-elected him!!
— Jimmy Ortega”
Did anyone see Morning Joe this morning? Joe said the dems should admit that they picked the wrong candidate. That was surprising. I have been away and lurking. Good to be home, I was surrounded by BOTS on my last job, I thought I would implode~!
The reason of Democrats for earmarks for ACORN is to put Americans to work, that is downright bullshit! Bailout bills shouldn’t have an earmark, the democrats are always doing this!
ONLY private corporations put people to work, not non-profit organizations! Why should we give taxpayers money to ACORN? Let them get their money from donations.
#476
LOL!!! Go Morning Joe!! Keep spreading the word…. : )
HELLO, anybody?
Question ~
Does anyone know if McCain and Obama were given the questions ahead of time before the debate tonight?
Listening to talk radio today, the DEMS want us to think that we are in crisis mode, hike our emotions up so we believe that they will save us.
Polls— I am here in Florida have not seen any Obie signs saw some Mccain, I can not believe Obie is that close. Something is wrong with this whole picture, I think this is some sort of mind game that is being played so everyone will vote for Obie.
Everyone is in the tank for Obie including those folks on wall street. Obie wanted this debate this evening because he feels he will crush Mc Cain. His drive to be POTUS is so determined and unethical ; there is a real agenda behind his arrogance. As the person said hanging my ceiling fan, “I read all I can about Obama and I have come to the conclusion that he is a socialist”.
By the way have we heard Obie grace the bailout plan, don’t think so, keep his hands clean and just say “present”. Or say something and foul it up as he did at the WH yesterday.
Is tonights debate still about Foreign policy?
Why don’t they switch it to the economy b/c that is the hot topic.
I can not stand the thought of watching Babycakes for 5 minutes!
I will concentrate on McCain.
WOW I can not believe the 360 this election cycle has me in, voting repub, railing against Dem’s and agreeing with REBUBLICANS! The world has tipped on its axis!!
Hells bells they are all despicable!!
Joe said that Hillary would be 10 pts ahead now.
when you look at it obama has it so easy with the main media being his de facto campaign ..and with that idiot GW having messed things up so much.. all he has to do is breathe oxygen and he could win..
mccain has to work 10 times as hard as obama to make any advancement ..he has so much against him..its like he has to climb mt everest
#468 Anna7000
Because that is how business is done in Washington – doesn’t it drive you crazy? And who is so anti-earmarks? Senator John McCain. I AM still a Democrat!
The whole process of government drives me crazy – bills presented late at night and voted on next morning with no time to read, enormous volumes to read so that no-one can find all the little hidden inserts before they vote – who statred earmarks anyway? Nothing is transparent in DC. It is SO depressing.
I hope someone can answer your and BillieJo’s question – I am sure we would all like to know.
By now fift posts will be in between so here’s the question
[CAN ANY PUMA EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE “EARMARKS” IN A BAIL OUT BILL AND WHY SUCH EARMARKS WOULD INCLUDE ANY NON-PROFIT ORG?]
excuse typos
#480 mick
I called Ole Miss and was told that the candidates are NOT given the questions beforehand.
#465 KarenWI: Don’t let what they say about Palin bother you. They are also calling for Biden to get off the ticket.
The East coast media and eggheads and political peeps perceive Palin to be incompetent because she comes across as different from them. And since they are a bunch of elitists who believe God put them on earth to rule benevolently over every one else they resent her power and taking up a spot they think is above her. Their motto…”she is different than us so she is inferior, she is clearly NOT from the east coast, mock, mock, snicker snicker”. What they don’t get is the rest of us do not like them or their snickering attitude and we do not consider them Gods gift to the planet and politics. In fact we consider them responsible for the f’d up mess our great country is in.
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#482 HP Boston on 09.26.08 at 3:13 pm
“WOW I can not believe the 360 this election cycle has me in, voting repub, railing against Dem’s and agreeing with REBUBLICANS! The world has tipped on its axis!!
Hells bells they are all despicable!!”
I don’t know if this is already on the blog, but here is the video of the comment that 20% of bailout money will go to ACORN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbVrCkviitk
I put it on Drudge, but not sure if they show clips, still working on the best info to put on Drudge
remember november.. the power of special interest groups and lobbyists make for earmarks
To quote a good friend of mine,
“I’m getting nervous about getting nervous about watching the debate tonight”….
Things to do while not watching the debate:
1. Walk the dog
2. come in and ask my husband what I missed
3. jump on Pumpac and see how you all are reacting
4. not listening to commentors afterwards who will all say Obama won, hands down
5. Walking the dog
6. Walk the dog again
7. Listen to the debate from the other room for bits and pieces
8. email my friends on the blog and ask for sedatives.
Cha-ching!! Woot!
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#487 Flasunshiner on 09.26.08 at 3:16 pm
#480 mick
I called Ole Miss and was told that the candidates are NOT given the questions beforehand.
#485 RememberNovember:
yet another reason for the need for a “Line Item Veto”…
Hey Evertbody,
I’ve been a lurker on this site for a while and decided to join. I read on http://www.gretawire.com the other day that Obama did have the questions before hand.
492 Lorelai
#472 kat in your hat
Re Acorn woodpeckers. Aren’t they lovely! Just moved from Bay Area to region of Northern CA where there are loads of them. Apparently they choose a master tree and store all their acorns there (about 15 or so birds) and take turns guarding their stash!
With the thought of such co-operative action I’ll get back to prowling. Thanks for the break.
#469 Anna7000 on 09.26.08 at 3:05 pm
Got Murphy’s prowl.
QUESTION:
Isn’t this negotiation primarily being worked out by members of the Finance Committee? If so, shouldn’t we be contacting all of them?
Media letter coming up soon —
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Great Anna, you write great letters and I will help you with that. I am working at home and can’t afford to call long distance for the prowls, but I sure as H@ll can send out a sh!tload of email and post on the media.
You go girl!
I am looking for the ‘mainstream ‘ media links to this to include the link in the letter I send….
good evening pumas
I hope MCCAIN unmask the scarecrow
I read in different posts that the election is already stolen(more or less), if these thugs get away with it, we might not have elections for quite a while
September 26, 2008
Dear Representative Kaptur,
Dear Senator Brown,
Dear Senator Voinovich,
We demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the "Bail Out Bill".
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork.
Taxpayer dollars should never fund fraudulent organizations such as ACORN…..This attempt is a blatant abuse of taxpayer dollars. I have voted with the democratic party for 20 years, if this bailout in anyway shape or form includes earmarks for Acorn I can assure you that in the future I will work to defeat any democratic candidate up for election to any seat in these United States. In doing so, I will,with all my might encourage others to join me. Please do what is right for the people of this great country.
Did my prowl! I also added my own ACORN paragraph, this shit really has me losing my mind. Who in the hell do these people think they are! SCREW OBAMA AND THE DNC……This is so disgusting….I think I will be leaving the dems forever.
I sent two letters;amended the first by adding some links to ACORN fraud.
I cannot believe I was ever a Dem either. If this is a Rovian tactic, he won again.
My computer failed a couple of days ago and I hate working on my laptop, too.
#492 Lorelai
I suggest Margaritas applied frequently…
What is weird is I haven’t seen any signs for Obama or McCain in my area…..It’s like you wouldn’t even know there was an election coming up. Weird….
Go McCain!!
Just got a company email at work regarding a company that is offering FHA FIXED RATE LOANS….NO MINIUM CREDIT SCORE 3% DOWN PAYMENT IN ALL STATES. “ALTERNATIVE CREDIT OK…CELL PHONE, CABLE BILL ETC. GOVERNMENT -BACKED PROGRAM THAT IS STABLE….
The government program?…..HUD
I printed the email…did not want to get caught trying to forward or anything. WTF? This is being sent out while we are trying to bail out these ratfk companies now. I am pissed.
I have a different take on McCain’s recent actions on the bailout. While I truly believe half of it IS because he really cares about what happens to our country, the other half seems to be a ploy to get inside the messiah’s head. There was the Pompus One, feverishly rehearsing for his big debate, probably feeling very anxious about it and trying very hard to get his lines straight… Here comes McCain, throwing him a curve, taking him away from practice to distract and confuse him. The 3 days he was planning on to practice suddenly disappeared! He’s probably very rattled now and we should see that in the debates later tonight. Just like how Sarah Palin got inside his head and made him stumble, is the same thing I’m sure McCain is trying to do.
I’m not sure how anyone in their right mind can believe that bozo knows anything about the economy or national security. He knows nothing except what his 300 advisors tell him to say. A puppet for greed, money, terrorists and the elite. That is why the media, Wall Street, Radical extremists and Congress want him in office. Everyone thinks they can tell him what to do and everything is about $$$$. McCain is an independent thinker and his own person. He will make decisions based on what he thinks is best for Americans. He loves this country more than his own life. Bozo loves himself only and will take down this country to benefit his own agenda. Polls are basically tied just b/c of the hatred of Bush. McCain is not Bush and never has been. People need to wake the hell up out there!
story..
i think politics in the USA is going to become like those of a third world country..
people are suffering and eeking out an existence while politicians argue and pretend to practivce democracy makeing alot of noise while at the same time enriching themselves..
in third world countries the people know that changing presidents is just like letting the mafia playing musical chairs to rip-off and steal as much as they can while in office..
kat in your hat said: “McCain needs to just get hard-core and not allow Obama to get away with his lies.”
a-yup.
#502 rlp33
The only Obama bumper stickers I see here in GA are on BMW’s with the state “Educator” license plates…
SUGGESTION:
Contact McCain as well re: no earmarks for ACORN. Let’s support him on this (I’m assuming he’s against it).
QUESTION
Anyone know who’s on the Finance Committee? That’s who’s primarily hammering this all out.
#504 NeverMore
I’ll go with that one… : )
Get tough McCain – knock Obama out of the water….
im sure mccain would like go hard core on obama..but he has to keep cool in order to appease the dumbed-down morons out there that would shreik with horror and scream. “racist” “racist” “racist”
#504 NeverMore,
The best defense is a good offense!
McCain is a very shrewd politician.
#499 michelle47 hey did you get my post earlier dear old sherrod brown was interview he is a *sshole….post #241.
NObama now is using law enforcement in Missouri for his campaign called “truth squad”..this is downright BULLSHIT!
http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1
QUESTION
Anyone know who’s on the Finance Committee? That’s who’s primarily hammering this all out.
I know Chris Dodd is on it and he’s one of the top ones who made sure ACORN had the earmark.
Cynthia McKinney
A Gift for a Generation:
A U.S. Financial System of Our Own
September 25, 2008
Last week, I posted ten points (that were by no means exhaustive) for Congressional action immediately in the wake of the financial crisis now gripping our country. At that time, the Democratic leadership of Congress was prepared to adjourn the current legislative Session to campaign, without taking any action at all to put policies in place that protect U.S. taxpayers and the global community that has accepted U.S. financial leadership. Those ten points, to be taken in conjunction with the Power to the People Committee’s platform available on the campaign website at (http://votetruth08.com/index.php/resources/campaignplatform)
Harvard Economics professor was just on CNN and told them that they should not do the bailout, that it would result in a disaster for this country. That the stockmarket is just not as bad as they say, and it is reacting to the uncertainty of which plan will be implemented.
Why are the bots treating Sarah like a ‘woman’?
If any of you ever lived in the country you will understand this ’saying’ Flopping around like a chicken with its head cut off’ that is what Bo has been doing since McCain selected Sarah. My grandma and aunt used to have chickens and they would cut their heads off and they would flop around on the ground for what seemed like forever to me as a child. So this is where all the nasty, vile , stuff is coming from and it will continue until Bo and all his weak minded cohorts can find a way to get ‘rid’ of his choice of a running mate. They treated Hillary the same way, and even though Hillary is supporting Bo , I would venture to say Bo and his ‘gutter rats’ are still meeting in their underground sewers making light of her. Sorry this took so long to say this but obviously I am not a writer but I can’t understand why Americans can not see these people for what they are!
Anyone else find it more than strange regarding Obama’s sudden passion to engage in a debate? He’s ducked McCain at every step of the way when McCain was trying to get him to do 10 Town Hall debates with him. He didn’t do such a great job in the primary debates, and Hillary pretty much ate his lunch. He bombed at Saddleback. Now he can’t WAIT to get in there.
REminds me of the underperformer in school, who suddenly can’t wait to take a test that he magically scores a 100% on. And come to find out that the young lad had stolen the answers to the questions.
Based on the slime coming from Obama, it would not surprise me one bit if he had somehow used his network of monions to purloin an advance copy of tonight’s questions.
Boy, we just need to pray for McCain – he is certainly going into enemy territory! Something’s going to happen and then B. Hussein will say, “I never saw anything!”
I don’t want them to change the topic – if you look at the news, are country is really being challenged from all areas and countries. There won’t be an economic challenge if we don’t exist!!
How come I feel like our country is heading towards fascism? How come I feel this election is a make or break for this country? How come I feel this collapse in our banking system has more to do with the Democratic Party to get their agenda?
@496 RememberNovember
Oh, you are lucky. There aren’t any of this sort where I live.
Once I saw that photo of the acorn woodpecker, I had to learn a little more. So I went to youtube and watched them.
Also, I found this site and listened to the sounds they make. Just like woody woodpecker. http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Acorn_Woodpecker.html#sound
Ok, now I’ll drop the whole acorn woodpecker thing, lol, I just get curious about everything and love nature.
“our”
#507 murphy,
Time for some Alice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZnhuOEUFXA
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kat in your hat said: “McCain needs to just get hard-core and not allow Obama to get away with his lies.”
grizzly..
you damn well could be right
#489 mick on 09.26.08 at 3:16 pm
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#482 HP Boston on 09.26.08 at 3:13 pm
“WOW I can not believe the 360 this election cycle has me in, voting repub, railing against Dem’s and agreeing with REBUBLICANS! The world has tipped on its axis!!
Hells bells they are all despicable!!”
WEIRD isn’t it? We’ll all be in therapy by the end of the year. But we, here, are all united in our distaste for corruption and want change – not just the change that BO plans to dish out.
#519 Grizzly
I really think he just wants to get it over, he has been studying or memorizing and it is all stuck in his head – he’s got to get it out or he will expolode!
#489 mick on 09.26.08 at 3:16 pm
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#482 HP Boston on 09.26.08 at 3:13 pm
“WOW I can not believe the 360 this election cycle has me in, voting repub, railing against Dem’s and agreeing with REBUBLICANS! The world has tipped on its axis!!
Hells bells they are all despicable!!”
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WEIRD isn’t it? We’ll all be in therapy by the end of the year. But we, here, are all united in our distaste for corruption and want change – not just the change that BO plans to dish out.
This post is subtly different from my previous one. Spot the difference?
Barney Frank – Finance committee
Chris Dodd – Banking committee
BARNEY FRANK IN 2003
These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.
CHRIS DODD, July 11, 2008
This is not a time to be panicking about [Fannie May and Freddie Mac]. These are viable, strong institutions.
PALIN BEAUTY CONTEST VIDEO POSTED
The creeps over at huffingtonpost have video of the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant with Sarah Heath (Palin) swimsuit competition.
What the hell does this have to do with anything in the race for the White House???
slyt2, hey….
They are all turning out to be ASSHOLES.
Pretty amazing isn’t it?
#526 RememberNovember
Really! I am getting along and agreeing with my Republican Sister – It has actually brought us closer.
hmmmm – I too will need therapy after January!
Warner Todd Huston
Dems Bailout Proposal Redirects ‘Paulson’s Profits’ To Left-Wing Groups
Bush told the country that we are in an economic crisis and his Treasury Secretary, Henry Paulson, came up with an idea that would, it is claimed, end up actually making money for the U.S. Treasury in the long run. That’s all well and good, but the Democrats already have a plan to siphon off any repayment of the people’s money back to the treasury by adding one little line to the agreement that would end up stealing money from any repayments and giving it to left-wing political advocacy groups like ACORN, the National Urban League and the Hispanic group La Raza. Instead of trying to help the economy, the Democrats just want more money for their left-wing political constituents. It’s business as usual for the Democrats, of course, but a bigger question is will the media let them get away with it?
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/09/26/dems-bailout-proposal-redirects-paulsons-profits-to-left-wing-groups/
Why are so few reporting this on the media? What a freaking scam!!! Off to Drudge.
#519 Grizzly: believe it or not I was thinking this exact thing yesterday or the student that studied for a test and the teacher called it off. He is so immature.
They should do a sweep at the debate to see if there are any hidden mikes and earplugs, where bambi can get the answers to the questions from someone else. He is too eager for this debate…..I smell a rat…. He dodged all the townhall meeting requests from McCain now he really wants this debate. Maybe he got the questions early?
The pimp’s head spokespimp said – cupcake has learned a bunch of zingers……………………huh??????????????n gonna use them against mccain – in place of answers? are these pods for real???????
Sisterluck and Nhforhillary – Thanks!
ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHO ELSE IS ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BESIDES DODD AND FRANK?
These are the folks who are sitting behind closed doors hammering this deal out. They need to hear from us!
#528 RememberNovember on 09.26.08 at 3:41 pm
#489 mick on 09.26.08 at 3:16 pm
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#482 HP Boston on 09.26.08 at 3:13 pm
“WOW I can not believe the 360 this election cycle has me in, voting repub, railing against Dem’s and agreeing with REBUBLICANS! The world has tipped on its axis!!
Hells bells they are all despicable!!”
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WEIRD isn’t it? We’ll all be in therapy by the end of the year. But we, here, are all united in our distaste for corruption and want change – not just the change that BO plans to dish out.
This post is subtly different from my previous one. Spot the difference?
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I agree, I need therapy now. Voting for a Republican and the cool thing is all working together…that is amazing.
Maybe we need a third party, centralist’s. Looks like they are on the same page with their goals.
biile joe..
YES the main stream media will not only let them get away with it theyll actually help them!!
Barack Obama Falls Short On Leadership In Financial Crisis!
Grizzly: I was wanting to tell you not to lose hope regarding finding a job you like. I was unemployed at age 50 because I was a housewife and Mom for 17 years when my husband got dumped from Boeing after 25 years and 2 weeks before he could have retired. I spent 2 months trying to get a good resume going and trying to do 2 job applications a day but really felt like I was going no where and in fact being laughed at. Then just when I had had it I got a call back. They ask for an interview and I spent 3 days studying my chemistry books afraid of what they would ask that I had forgotten. They interviewed me for 30 mins and asked if I could start Monday. Of course I said yes but I asked what made them decide on me. The answer…You can do the job, you aren’t going to leave and move to Texas to follow your boyfriend, you aren’t going to get pregnant, you have kids to put through college, you aren’t going to quit and go back to school. Of course these are all positive assumptions regarding age and are probably illegal but I am not complaining. Don’t give up, you will find some place that is happy for your age and experience and stability.
Another reason the chosen one might be excited is that he will be debating a man and not Hillary, he probably is going to use some of the same tactics she used on him. But here again Bo is underestimating John
507 murphy How bout maybe, the American people have to get hard core. If George Soros, who is reputed to be worth 7.9 billion dollars, is behind ACORN and ACORN is behind Obama, and Obama represents their core values, then we are in for the fight of our lives.
There is no telling how many othe politicians are in their pocket. Or corportate execs.
And I’d like to know just who is to oversee the moneys from this ‘bailout’.
#537 ANNA7000
I saw the Minoriy Whip on FOX this morning but didn’t catch his name, I think he is also working on the bill. Reid and Pelosi are also involved. Republican Blunt is on and said the name Baynor, think I heard he was also on.
Sorry I failed you. I wasn’t up til about 10am pst, it takes me awhile to get going. My surgery is helping but it is a slow process. My energy level is much higher than it was a month or two ago, but that is still very low to most. I will make it up somehow.
Thanks for your patience.
@537 Anna
http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/committee.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Finance_Committee
#537 Correction
It was Rep. King, not Blunt, King is on the Finance committee.
This is a survey from Univision.com Hispanics believe McCain is more prepared to work with the economy issues:
¿Quién crees que estará mejor capacitado para enfrentar la crisis financiera que afecta a Estados Unidos?
McCain 49%
Obama 47%
Ninguno 3%
No sé 1%
Visita los foros de noticias
Esta encuesta no es científica y sólo representa la opinión de aquellos usuarios que decidieron participar © 2008 Univision Communications Inc.
Kat in your hat
Ok, now I’ll drop the whole acorn woodpecker thing, lol, I just get curious about everything and love nature.
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Me too! Thanks for the woody sound link – got so disracted I disconnected myself from the blog and had to get back in.
Now, seriously, back to prowling and finding out who is in the Finance Committee
Asian4Hillary on 09.26.08 at 3:38 pm How come I feel like our country is heading towards fascism?
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Food for thought – if it was not for the worldwide depression starting in 1929, there would likely have not been an Adolph Hitler. The economic situation in Germany and elsewhere provided fertile ground to cultivate despair and turn it into resentment. A candidate of hope emerged that invirgorated a new national pride, with the masses believing that their woes were the result of their country losing its way and falling victim to the illicit practices of the zionists and the old ruling class.
It started out as a grass roots effort, with volunteers engaging in a “get in your face” campaign of coercion and intimidation. A national civil force was organized to protect the people’s party often found to be at odds with state law enforcement. The methodical takeover of all branches of government was accomplished through a well planned and executed effort in organizing the people, community by community.
Remember, those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Reid said Dodd will be in all the meetings.
Reid came right out and said “We didn’t cause this problem, the Republicans did.”
Oh, Really?
#504 Nevermore wrote “The 3 days he was planning on to practice suddenly disappeared”
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Good point. I think you may be on to something there.
Kat
There you found it while I was birdwatching
#543 Alice1943: Oh yes, I am sure many of the politicians are bought and paid for. What always surprises me and makes me sick is how little it takes to purchase politicians. If I were going to sell out it would take a hell of a lot more than these weasels are demanding. They are just so cheap!
MCCAIN should prepere like if he was going yo flight over SAIGON back in the 60´s, he should came out victorious, and unmask mr whimper
Either BO is posturing about tonight’s debate or his narcissism is blossoming. Maybe he thinks he can talk in cadence and convince all of America of his absolute glorious superiority. “Zingers” would imply provoking. Does he think he can provoke McCain into showing bad temper?
Who is going to count the Uahs? I find it painfull to focus on him well enough to catch them all.
Seattlegirl on 09.26.08 at 3:47 pm Grizzly: I was wanting to tell you not to lose hope regarding finding a job you like.
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Wow. Thank you SO much. You don’t realize how much that meant to me, expecially today. This was one of those days, at the end of another week of nothing, that things were looking pretty bleak.
You made my day!
FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE MEMBERS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Financial_Services
You can click on each name and it brings you to a Wikepedia page about them. I say we contact as many of them as possible. They’re the power brokers in this!!!
FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE MEMBERS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Financial_Services
You can click on each name and it brings you to a Wikepedia page about them. I say we contact as many of them as possible. They’re the power brokers in this!!!
what the hell!!!!!
just received my california GE booklet in the mail..
the liberal fruitcakes in sacramento want 460,000,000 dollars for drug treatment programs..
i say to drug addicts..GO TO HELL and good riddance if you kill yourselves..you dont deserve a damn penny of the taxpayers money
Kat – I think we were searching the net at the same time! I really think we need to focus our efforts on this group of folks.
A good read:
McCain pushed for the “surge” in Iraq. Obama opposed it, saying it wouldn’t work. When it worked, Obama said he knew it would work, but defended his vote anyway.
Two years ago, McCain warned that Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were in serious need of reform and he so-sponsored legislation to reform it. Obama did not support this legislation, which the Democrats blocked. Obama was near the top of the list of recipients of contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and two executives from these outfits were among his campaign advisors.
McCain also had the right line on the Russian invasion of Georgia (though this was not a legislative issue). As Rudy Giuliani recounted at the Republican Convention, Obama waffled for a while and eventually adopted McCain’s view. McCain led; Obama followed
Most recently, McCain figured out that he needed to get back to Washington to engage, and if possible provide leadership in, the momentous issue of the financial sector bailout. While McCain opted to help make something happen, Obama said he could be reached by phone if anything did happen.
Obama’s position was untenable, so he eventually followed McCain back to Washington.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021613.php
6. What will Obama say more often — “ummm”
or “ahhh”? Dark horse option: “well, look”
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Forgot about #7.
How many times he’ll say “I agree with Hillary…oops (McCain)?
He didn’t have one original thought the whole of the primary debates….well lets be fair he hasn’t had an original thought all the campaign.
Anyone want to help find contact info for the lawmakers on the Financial Services Committee? It’s a long list and most are reps not senators, so you can’t use a web form if you don’t have an address in their district, but we can gather faxes and phone numbers and links to their web pages for anyone that does live in their district. I’m going in after the first 5 names in the left column.
I called my Senators (Bayh and Lugar) from Indiana. The man who answered at Lugar’s office said there was nothing in the bill related to Acorn — he said that was an internet falsehood. So, how do we know who to believe? I told him anyway that I don’t want any bailout that includes Acorn — not one dime!.
I have 3 words for all of these filthy, lowlife, disgusting, bloodsucking, thieving pieces of shit……..
FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so pissed I think my head is going to explode!!!!!!
Alice – Wow, thanks for that post. OK. How do we corroborate info to find out the truth?!*
I’m calling McCain’s office. They may have info to confirm or not.
#561 osaka puma
Hey there – hold on now! I am in a 12 step program (NA) and I went to treatment and I venture to say they saved my life – with a little effort on my part – I now have 20 years clean – they do save lives although maybe 460 mill is a bit much…….
Remember, those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Ya right I think of that every time I go on a diet!
I am here to say, I AM FRICKIN SICK OF ALL THE RACIST SH*T!!!!!!
First I came in here as MountainSong and got booted cuz someone thought I was racist.
So having had worked on prowls and donated when I could, I figured i AM a PUMA, nevertheless, so I came back as Living Grace and I apologised.
THEN someone took offense at another post where I commented that if the race is about ‘race’ then we should be glad the percentage of the population that is black is only 13%.
I was merely quoting a Census statistic. But someone thought it should be deleted.I asked why, and the next thing I knew I was booted again.
Now I’m here under my cousin, Alice’s, name. And I’m here to say this country is in deep doo-doo.
BO and his minions are the REAL ‘racists’, I believe and everytime they accuse ME, it makes me defensive about my own heritage.
But the truth, as I see it, is that OUR country is under attack. Serious attack which makes the WTC bombings look small in comparison.
And so yesterday, when another G-ddamned OBOT called me a ‘racist’, I said, “No you’re the frickin racist—I’m the frickin PATRIOT. So now, STFU and get out of my way.”
#568 michelle47
I HEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!
OK, now you can have your computer back, Alice.
Whooooie!!! My cuz can get riled!!!!
This quote explains why Reid went on TV at first saying we’re all waiting on McCain’s vote. McCain takes off for DC to see what’s going on. Reid finds out McCain won’t sign the bill with the ACORN earmark etc so he goes ballistic and says a deal was already reached (when it wasn’t) and McCain came for political reasons and screwed up the deal. Reid is a nutjob and he and Pelosi run Bozo. Reid/Pelosi set McCain up.
“Lastly, there is one more aspect of this that proves the Democrats are playing politics with this issue instead of being concerned with the saving the economy. The Senate Democrats and Democratic Speaker of the House Pelosi have been pressuring John McCain to sign onto this deal. If he does and this payoff to left-wing groups like the vote fraud infused ACORN or the racemongering La Raza stays in the bill, McCain will be responsible for giving pork to dangerous hardcore, left-wing organizations. If he doesn’t sign onto this because of this pork laden provision, the Democrats can then turn around and say that McCain is a stumbling block in this important bailout bill. The Democrats have, in other words, slipped a poison pill into the plan.”
#573 Alice1943
WOOHOOO!!! YOU GO MY FRIEND – SAY IT LIKE IT IS!!!!
I DIDN’T KNOW YOU WERE MOUNTAIN SONG
michelle47 on 09.26.08 at 4:01 pm
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I get the sense that you may have a somewhat negative impression of our elected representatives. Don’t ask me how I came to that conclusion. There are days when I think I may have psychic powers.
Just me here, but it may make you feel a lot better if you just came out with it; you know, let us know what’s really on your mind.
The Moderator is changing the Debate!! What the?? Wants to let B. Hussein put McCain on the defense about the economy!!! First One to start the Debate? Is it B. Hussein? The Marxist?
I don’t know how many of you watch Ellen DeGenerus but her opening skit today was about multi-tasking and she was making and telling how to make a bird feeder while giving insightful things on fixing the economy…..it was funny that showed you really can’t do 2 things at the same time and make sense of either.
Roy Blunt is now involved in working on the plan. Not sure if he is Repub. or Dem.. Dems. are also asking for a 61Bil. Stimulus package on top of the bailout. Paulson and Bernanke are the ones pushing the bill through. It is called Paulson’s bill.
Alice1943
That’s the way to do it!!!! Say it as is girl!
One more thing to add to the betting list….
How gray will BO’s hair be tonight?
Moderately?
Grecian Forumal-ish?
Dark again?
What look is he going for? Older and wiser? Young and all hopey and changey?
#561
I am 20 years sober and did go to rehab, although my insurance paid for it. I do think the 12 step programs are key, but rehabs do help save lives. Honestly, I examine BO’s behavior as someone who has addict behavior “without recovery”, not unlike GWB. Now that is scarey. He fits the bill.
579 Grizzly Ditto
578 mimi1020 Thanks, Girlfriend. I, too, am a member of a 12-step program, AA. And thanks to it and the Grace of the Creator, I have been clean and sober 35 years in December.
If they talk about the economy tonight during debate, McCain will brought up the bill he co-sponsored that NObama and other democrats VOTED DOWN in the senate. Jim Lehrer would be the host tonight.
Oops, 25 years I meant.
I have just been lurking here for weeks– this blog is like my vice at this point (darn iphone, I can get it wherever I go!). Anyway, you all impress me so much with your fire and courage.
Today I finally felt the call to arms to get off my duff and do something. Here’s the letter I just sent all my CO reps and BOTH the candidates about ACORN in the bailout (grrrrr!). NOt that expect BO to read it. I’m sure he’s busying himself looking in the mirror waiting for his starring role tonight.
I can’t believe this is even a race anymore. We’ve got one guy who clearly takes ACTION and another who only wants to talk! “Call me if you need me!” Ugh. The arrogance!
(PS– we need a LOT of PUMA help in CO. I can’t believe how blinded everyone around here is to BO’s glaring inadequacies.)
To: Senator Wayne Allard, Senator Ken Salazar and Congressman Mark Udall
CC: John McCain, Barack Obama
Dear Sirs:
I would like to take this opportunity to voice my opposition to any and all bailout measures for the Wall Street/mortgage crisis, particularly if any earmarks are included in any legislation, and even MORE vehemently if there is a single dime of this bailout money allotted to the organization ACORN.
I would ask you all to seriously consider alternate means of helping the troubled financial institutions as your current plan appears to us (the working people of the United States. You remember us, right?) to merely prolong the inevitable. Please look for alternative means to free up capital rather then merely handing out cash to the very people who let their personal greed get US ALL into this mess! I think you should all consider the House Republicans plan that includes a government-backed insurance method. Either way, it should go with out saying that the American people are fed up with what is going on both on Wall Street and in DC.
Further, Barney Frank needs to be relieved of his authority to make any decisions where any federal monies go as his track record bespeaks his inability for rational thought. Additionally, you should all know that the citizens of this country expect that the golden parachutes be revoked from any and all takers, and trust that you all will investigate any failed businesses for malfeasance and possible crimes.
We understand that you want to help the people in foreclosure, but this bailout unfairly assists those who have kept their end of their mortgage bargain as well as those who’ve already been foreclosed upon. For these reasons, it is inherently inequitable and therefore, unconstitutional.
Let me reiterate, however, that enough is enough with this earmark nonsense! STOP IT!!! Do not allow little pet projects to be tacked onto any rescue plan. Times are tough for everyone right now, and we need some fiscal responsibility not only in our households but in Washington, too. Adding a million here and 50 million there will NOT do us any good in the long run. You are effectively writing checks that, we, the American public, must cover. Keep that in mind for a change as you suck down cocktails with your lobbyist friends.
Do your jobs sirs, and remember who you work for. For election day is coming fast.
Sincerely,
Lorelai on 09.26.08 at 4:10 pm One more thing to add to the betting list….
How gray will BO’s hair be tonight?
Moderately?
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How about the mole? Will be be covered with makeup or revealed in all its glory? Anyone see that “talking stain” commercial from Tide? Where the guy in in an interview and the interviewer is focused on the blathering coming from the stain? When I saw BO on O’Reilly, that was the first thing that came to my mind! That mole was a singin’!
I saw an african american woman at the grocery today, she was wearing an Obama t-shirt that said………..
WE HAVE ANOTHER DREAM….
Obama’s mug plastered all over it……..
Needless to say I was pissed, I then wanted to rip her hair out, then claw her eyes out………..
So I settled on telling her that her dream was my NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Murphy – Please delete #568!!!
#567 alice
ACORN IN THE BAILOUT PLAN WAS NOT AN INTERNET LIE!
I heard it from Lindsay Graham himself on FOX at about 7:10pm pst time last night. Maybe you need to call them back and ask for the TRUTH. I heard something about something called HOPE and using funding for that. Not sure if that is another SOROS connection or if they separated it into part of the 61B stimulus bill that Dems are trying to get added on to the bailout.
Listening to Newt on Hannity radio now… he brought out something I hadn’t thought of before. This is a HUGE feather in McCain’s cap because he is fighting against Pres Bush! Bush had a deal set up with the dems. Baynor (sp?), a republican, was against it but didn’t have the clout to beat it until McCain came. When the republican pres. candidate threw his weight WITH Baynor AGAINST Bush, they now have more clout and could stop it. Think about it…. one more instance of irrefutable proof that McCain is NOT a BushIII. That is one of the major things that Obama kept saying over and over… but NOW, with the whole world watching, he stood up AGAINST Bush.
Oh here we go again. I minute a woman is running for office in the boys club we get this kind of crap!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Wow, so many friends of Bill W here!
(PRESUMED) ACORN EARMARK UPDATE
1. I think Billie Jo hit the nail on the head when she wondered why there even would be earmarks for a non-profit in a bill to fend off further financial collapse.
2. Alice received information directly from her elected officials that said there are no earmarks for ACORN.
3. I just spoke with Senator McCain’s office and they said that while there are many ideas likely being tossed around, most have not been made public and that she has heard nothing about any earmarks, including any for ACORN (and, naturally, McCain would be against it).
Sssssssssssssooooooooooooooooo, me thinks perhaps we’ve fallen into the realm of internet rumor.
Can anyone corroborate the source of the information that there are (potentially) earmarks for ACORN in the legislation they are batting arond. I have no desire to spend another moment of time on this if it’s false and don’t want to look like an idiot contacting elected officials (which I’ve already done) and/or the media if we can’t confirm this is fact.
I wish someone would hit Bo right between the eyes with a wet cow pattie
I wish I could get my name back. But no matter what name, I’ve been here as a PUMA from the start. And if bullets fly, I will be there, too.
Prowls done!!!!!!
#592 michelle47 Please stop your racist comments NOW!!
diva – ugh. my head is spinning. how do you think we could find some evidence we can point to that might be in the print media or something.
568 michelle47 on 09.26.08 at 4:01 pm I have 3 words for all of these filthy, lowlife, disgusting, bloodsucking, thieving pieces of shit……..
FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so pissed I think my head is going to explode!!!!!!
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80% of American feel the same way…
A sense of disappointment and helplessness.
That is way this general election will see the highest percentage of people coming out to vote… And it is about time…
Comment of Michelle47 is NOT racist. I feel the same way!
1gypsy4mc: what was racist about that post. Just asking
God, this is BS. Let people say what they got to say without calling them ‘racist’. Unless they are blatantly expressing racial hatred.
Bill W. Rocks my world!
#590nicfit: Well..well…well…nickfit…quite a letter out of the lurk! Welcome to the den! Hope your addiction continues to move you in similar ways until November 4 and beyond!
#587 Alice1943
WOOHOO – NICE TO KNOW SOMEONE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND ME WHEN I SAY – “I FEEL SOOOOO POWERLESS!”. GOTTA KEEP DOING THE FOOT WORK AND TURN IT OVER! LOL
Anna7000 on 09.26.08 at 4:17 pm (PRESUMED) ACORN EARMARK UPDATE
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Here is a link to the relevant section in the marked up bill:
http://publicmarkup.org/bill/dodds-legislative-proposal-treasury-department-aut/1/5/
While it does not name ACORN by name, prior legislation with the same language has benefitted just two groups: ACORN and La Raza.
I wasn’t able to make the long distance phone calls on the prowl today. If others did do the prowl on the ACORN situation, did anyone get feedback???
If it’s untrue, evey one should have heard that or did they hear something else?
——— If this is a rumor, it is an internet rumor started on Greta’s program on tv last night!
Watch the tape again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbVrCkviitk
Me too
#598 Anna7000
Lindsay Graham said last night that they had ACORN in the bailout plan as a housing organziation. He said ACORN was getting 20%. Maybe the Dems took it out of the bill, changed the name or hae putted it in the additional stimulus plan.
The Dems are now trying to get an additional 61Bil. stimulus bill through on top of the bailout. They may have taken ACORN out of the bailout plan and put it in here. Also, someone posted about a group called HOPE which was part of the bailout. My concern is that Soros stated another company and calling it HOPE instead of ACORN. Can’t verify the HOPE thing.
We have a common enemy and it’s not ‘Racism’, although it seems like the ememy is very fond of using their own racism as a weapon.
One of the things that keeps me attracted to PUMA is the “Live and Let Live” spirit. The ability to rise above petty differences for the greater common good. Face it!!! That’s the only real weapon we have going for us!!!
Grizzly
I will try to let it out in small doses as I do not wish to offend anyone with my penchant for the proverbial potty mouth……….
At this point it would seem only fitting that I should be blogging under the name GRIZZLY, I do at this point feel like a beast in the woods….That, let’s face it EATS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HaHa, Again I do not wish to offend anyone. Some people eat when they are angry or excercise or possibly hit things….I SWEAR, and I have become a master at it!
#602 1gypsy4mc on 09.26.08 at 4:18 pm
#592 michelle47 Please stop your racist comments NOW!!
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It didn’t sound racist to me either.
#566 Alice- I live in Indiana too. I was told the same thing at both offices. One thing we need to be careful of, is that we do not fall into believing everything we hear out there on the internet. it is very easy to get false information, and then be focusing on the wrong things. The obots watch and post everywhere. They know how to divert the focus. just beware.
alice 1943
mimi1020
This election has me feeling powerless, and it is so hard to talk about it in meetings because i live in bot country, surrounded by universities! I did make a connection with a woman in my group, she whispered afterwards just “puma”. It was so cool.
Well, you all can take it the way you want – I said what I said and I meant it. We don’t need to hear or see the words. The people never “said” anything to her/him…..and than the same language has to be repeated. I don’t particularly care what someone wears………..
ACORN – INTERNET RUMOR?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbVrCkviitk
Not if you believe your ears and eyes. Here’s what Lindsay Graham said – see 2 min 38 sec right at the end
#598 Anna7000 on 09.26.08 at 4:17 pm
The Repubs are going on TV and saying that the Bill includes ACORN by the Dems as an earmark, 20%. It’s not just on the net. The House and Senate members are confirming. Most of the media is not going to report bad stuff about Pelosi/Reid/Bozo. Check this article:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/the-democratic-acorn-bailout/
618 hillary2008
I can absolutely relate – can’t share it at a meeting without pissing some obamamite off – I go to NA and they are there are a lot of young ignorant, nieve people.
You know how we are with hope and change in our own lives….I think they just like the mantra……arrggggg.
We need to start a PUMA 12 Step Program, recovering addicts and alcoholics against NOBAMA! LOL!
618 hillary2008 I can so relate. Each night I try to do a 10th step, and remind myself that it’s not in my control and that “This, too, shall pass.” It’s hard for me, too, because my sponsor is an Obot. But it works, one day at a time.
“While Everyone Else Is Working On Solving The Financial Crises, My Senator Is Working On His Abs”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/26/while-everyone-else-is-working-on-solving-the-financial-crises-my-senator-is-working-on-his-abs/#more-5083
ahhh I see Nancy Pelosi on tv
#594diva2: The Hope deal is one of the names for a housing program that has been around for a while. Has something to do with first time low income homeowners. It was in existence in the 90’s when I was still working in Social Services. I frankly can’t remember the details anymore but I do remeber very clearly that funds were available under that program in or under a Title of the bill for education re responsibilities of homeownership and other related activities. These funds often went to non-profit groups . ACORN is a player in that area and has been, in my understanding and memory, from the beginning.
Still say it is baiting………whatever! watch the comments… has been leading up to this for several days now!
Nancy Botox Pelosi is speaking – she needs to be replaced -
ACORN EARMARK UPDATE
Just called Lindsey Graham’s office. The man who answered the phone confirmed that an earmark for ACORN is on the table along with everything else that’s being considered.
I can’t say whether this is a political stunt, or not. But, I suppose in contacting elected officials and/or the media I will reference Senator Graham, which at least will provide a source.
#623 Alice1943
oh man! your sponsor is an obot! Ok mine is not – thank god…….
I can relate to doing the 1 – 3 – 10 shuffle on this whole damn obambi debocle!
PS Thank you Diva.
Gypsy
Excuse me there was nothing at all racist about that comment and I mean NOTHING!!!!! I happen to date a black man thank you!
I am simply pointing out that there are those that are african american that believe Obama is another MARTIN LUTHER KING…….Guess what he is not!!!!!!!!!
Martin Lutther King was first a gentleman and a republican and I certainly do not believe he would be propping up Obama.
622 mimi1020 Now there’s an idea.
I keep getting the feeling that nobody does any business in Washington, unless they’ve had a few martini’s.
#626 New Orleans Puma
Thought there was a connection. So, instead of using ACORN, they are using HOPE. Same difference. Taxpayers also pay for ACORN. SCARY
#626 New Orleans Puma
Thought there was a connection. So, instead of using ACORN, they are using HOPE. Same difference. Taxpayers also pay for ACORN. SCARY
Tell us about ACORN SanFran Nan!!!
630 mimi1020 1-2-3-10-11—everyday, ALL day!!!
But my sponsor also has 25 years. And we both know what our #1 priority is.
#633 Alice1943
I’m sure half the ideas come when they are 2 sheets to the wind! There maybe afew in Washington who should follow our lead!
michelle47 on 09.26.08 at 4:28 pm
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I can relate. I retired as a Major from the US Army (mostly reserves) and was myself quite adept at stringing together quite a melodious and poignant collection of expletives to get my point across. SOme words truly defy explanation in their flexibility – used as a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, etc.
The lack of appreciation of that lost art in modern society is a great loss.
#375 Monap
Yes, I’m the original Princess and the Pea!
No wonder everything is going swimmingly in Washington, left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
So who do we believe Sen. Lugar’s office or Senator Lindsay Graham?
638 mimi1020 Only a few? LOL Maybe a few n here, too.
Oh dear God Pelosi got her 56 bill.
Ouch! I feel my pocket getting picked.
Huh? How is that racist?
#602 1gypsy4mc on 09.26.08 at 4:18 pm
#592 michelle47 Please stop your racist comments NOW!!
Just did my prowls by phone but am thinking I need to fax my senators. The Acorn earmark is outrageous.
Can someone tell me if It is allright to send Caracal Carries webpage about Obama to an e-mail friend of mine who is trying to convince me to vote for XO?
I’m beside myself that the empty suit is actually convincing people he is qualified. Very scary.
Am having trouble posting, already submitted 6 times.
mccain/palin all the way fight for us
#637 Alice1943
Agreed – #1 priority – Recovery/Sobriety!
but still! lol
Alice 1943
Mimi1020
I feel like Hillary was the sober end of the Democratic party and the rest are out on a bad drunk. Listening to the bots is like listening to someone justify their “slip”. That is why I think The Clintons know that soon the country will wake up and they do not want to get to dirty by the BO end of te party.
#642 Alice1943
true! LMAO
Way to go Anna – straight to the horse’s mouth – at least his office. As you say we can quote Graham.
Here is a thought..
Since there is soooooo much talke about these obot supporters being threatening and all, maybe some people are saying they are for Obama just so they don’t get confronted.
Their may be more McCain supporters than we think…. : )
#648 hillary2008
I agree – Whenever I see obamabots, I think of my desease – TOTAL DENIAL!
Also I have been here from the beginning, mostly lurking, but I can tell you I do all the prowls and a ton more on my own. I know now why I don’t post often.
I have donated money and alot of time to puma, everyone has different approaches and personalities, mine however happens to be strong, I am sorry if you don’t like it and I don’t really care if you do.
I can see why alot of people leave this site to many chiefs!
Geez!!! I just got a text message on my cell from BO campaign. Telling me to watch the debate tonight and then give them feedback.
Why isnt the media saying that Acorn will receive 20% of the bailout money and that Acorn is a corrupt organization that Obama is behind? These journalist need to be fired or put out of their misery for not doing their jobs…
#635diva2L Right. Hope is the acronym for the statutory housing program on the books…but whenever these kinds of monies are talked about, I assure you at the national and local level the legislators usually have in mind the nongovernmental groups they would like to serve as a conduit for whatever programmatic aspects of a bill or law are in place.
And, certainly this is true after many years of a program, with one or two groups over time applying for and receiving the funding. It does not allow for many new ideas or new groups to enter the mix of players in programs and when, for example, a nonprofit is incompetent and/or lax for whatever reasons it supports mediocrity. It certainly as well gives legislators various firm bases of supporters when they run for anything also. So the earmark game is played with nonprofits just as it is with for profit entities.
654 Alice1943
Yeah.. we can tell them they SUCK!!!
Mick – so how about we just get rid of the “foul” language?
#652 mim1020
OMG, you said it. I swear, I would not have gotten through the primary without the support of the program. I had to turn it over. I really thought I could drink, but could not give BO that power.
#659 hillary2008
NEVER GIVE ANYONE THAT POWER!
He is just a lying schemer. We ALL have to pay consequences for our actions – his time will come
(hopefully in November!)
ACORN is the acronym for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. They promote themselves as a grass-roots organization founded in 1970, for the purpose of promoting justice and fairness for low- and middle-income families.
In reality, they are a non-profit, federally subsidized, neo-Marxist activist organization which recruits, trains and puts into practice the Saul Alinsky method of activism, as defined in his definitive publication, Rules for Radicals. Their ultimate goal is the destruction of the United States of America, as idealized and established by our founding fathers, and replacing it with a Communist style state, such as Cuba, North Korea, China and the former Soviet Union.
One of ACORN’s highly publicized activities is the door-to-door canvassing to register voters during every election cycle, for which it frequently finds itself in the news and in the courts for its standard practice of registering dead folks, pets and fictional characters, such as “Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and Jive Turkey.”
ACORN is a favorite recipient of public funding, your tax dollars, by congressional democrats, as they share common goals and enjoy a financially incestuous relationship.
Most recently, the proposed $700Billion Wall Street Bailout, read corporate welfare, being urgently pushed by congressional democrats and Treasury Secretary Paulson would direct “no less than 20 percent of any profit realized on the sale of each troubled asset purchased under” the bailout would go to ACORN and like organizations, such as National Council of La Raza.
ACORN in Chicago is where Barack Obama cut his teeth, received his training, and ‘made his bones’ within the Daley machine in order achieve his life-long ambitions, as detailed in his two autobiographical works, “Dreams from My Father” and “Audacity of Hope”. There is ample reason, by the way, to suspect that Obama wrote neither of these works himself, but instead, relied on a known close associate to ghost write “Dreams…” and another unknown source to scribe “Audacity…”.
In different times, when it was considered bad form to be a Communist in the United States, members of ACORN would have been brought before a legislative committee to answer for their sedition toward the Constitution of the United States of America.
#600 Alice1943 I want you to get your name back too. I love Mountain Song. Maybe Murphy could give it back to you.
rlp 33
I think that you are right. I know alot of people who whisper their support for McCain. I live in New York State. We are blue, and Hillary country. There are just so many obots around, they pretend in public. It is weird.
hillary2008
Well, as long as they show their support for him in November, that is what matters…. : )
#663 hillary2008
Me too same boat out here in Ca. Its like a sifi movie.
They were wrong with Bush and there wrong with Obama.
653 michelle47 Don’t feel bad, Michelle. I’ve been there, done the prowls, donated to the Denver trip, even when it left me very short.
We just need to be thick skinned as much as possible and let the BS run off us like water off a duck’s back.
I didn’t think your post was any more racist than one’s of my own that got the same reaction.
Just keep coming back.
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mimi 1020
hillary 2008
Just remember, for each of us, there is someone else here who is a friend of Bill’s. And it’s a power greater than ourselves that does for us what we cannot do for ourselves—and it AIN’T BO!!!!
662 ladyhawkke Awww, TY, now how SWEET is that!!!! I’ll have to ask her, I guess.
ACORN EARMARK MEDIA LETTER
Kat, Carical and others know a lot about Acorn and can make this even better. If you add to it, edit as well, so the letter doesn’t get too long and pass the maximum word length.
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To all interested parties:
I am writing with a specific concern as it pertains to the current negotiations to pass legislation to fend off further financial and economic collapse. On Thursday, September 25th, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina was on CNN and other networks discussing the negotiations and noted that one component of this complex puzzle that is on the table includes an earmark for a the non-profit organization called ACORN. In sum, ACORN may be slated to receive a hefty chunk of funds in this bailout package.
On the face of things, many may not realize the troublesome nature of this as ACORN may be presented to the public as an innocent organization involved with housing assistance. However, for those not familiar with ACORN, they are a group that has been involved with voter fraud for many years. As recently as last week an investigation was called for in North Carolina regarding several members of ACORN who are allegedly engaged in voter fraud in the Durham area. If you Google “ACORN voter fraud” you will get nearly 180,000 hits. The case against them is long and ever growing.
In addition, there are conflict of interest concerns. Senator Obama and his campaign have been heavily involved with ACORN, both in the past when Mr. Obama was a community organizer, and more recently in his presidential campaign. There is a mountain of evidence regarding voter fraud in all 14 Democratic caucus states at least some of which appears linked to ACORN’s activities.
It’s criminal that voter fraud has been perpetuated by ACORN. To imagine that this group would receive a single penny in benefits from any bail out package is unthinkable. I want my money AND our voting system protected. Toward that end, I am monitoring the activities of our elected officials closely on this matter and hope the media will do so as well, particularly regarding further investigation of ACORN.
#596 NobamaNetwork
Re http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Don’t worry about this media womans call for Palin to step down. That is how media women get their jobs. By reinforcing their male bosses sexist beliefs. That is why there are no women in the media who have power with real women. They are just some sort of aberration.
#643shampoovta
I thought they voted down the 56Bil Stimulus bill so the Dems were trying to put through another 61Bil. bill. What did I miss?
I think many, many Dem’s are going to start to defect from the kool aide crowd.
Next month I think Dem’s who know and do not trust Obuma either, will speak out.
The Clinton have not sung any great praises for Obuma, nor will they, many more will start to throw buma under the bus. Hey I can dream can’t I? Is that a song?
By now we all must know the MSM is a losing battle, we can not change anyone’s mind there, there is no there there, they are bought and paid for………
#666 Alice1943
You can say that again!
One Day at a time my friend.
Have a good night everyone – gotta go
GOOOOOO MCCAIN!
#658 Gypsy,
Yes, agreed! I like freakin’ better.
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#658 1gypsy4mc on 09.26.08 at 4:48 pm
Mick – so how about we just get rid of the “foul”
language?
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#655 Hispanic,
Conservative talk radio, … (Rush Limbaugh and Hannity) were all over this today.
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#655 Hispanic4Hillary on 09.26.08 at 4:46 pm
Why isnt the media saying that Acorn will receive 20% of the bailout money and that Acorn is a corrupt organization that Obama is behind? These journalist need to be fired or put out of their misery for not doing their jobs…
Wow peeps. I miss a day and a half things go to hell (again). Lol.
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Okay, lets get this “racist” comment thing out of the way. Lets define what is and isn’t a racist comment for the pac(K).
“cauase I don’t see Michelles comment as racist. I can see where others might but, to me it just wasn’t.
Any body wan tto try and defien a racist post? Lets get some standard ansd all agree to abide by it. That way there won’t be any mis understandings.
Ok group hug. (Alice no clawing in the hug ,well you can me
Is there a 12-Step Program for pathological liars? I think the Dem spin machine aka Little Bo Beep’s new Community Organizing Group….needs one desperately. Maybe we should vote to fund THAT and nothing else out of the pork pill bail-out program for wealthy Dems and their crooked friends.
What’s happened to poor Howard Wolfson? He’s turned into another BO-style pathological bs artist.
ACORN vs. HOPE
If the Congress people you call deny the ACORN issue in the bailout, ask if it is in any other stimulus packages trying to go through now and ask if there is anything in there about HOPE, which may be associated with ACORN. You may say we know all about George Soros and his dem. affiliation. Maybe it will shake them up.
Obama will say “let me clear” or my personal favorite “if you don’t like my answer just ask me again”.
669 Seattlegirl LMAO @ ’some sort of aberration”!!!!!
And has anyone seen south jersey?
michelle47’s comment, though somewhat shrill
is not racist.
Obama is no MLK. no way, no how. He may want the black community to believe he is, but he is DREAMING.
#559 Grizzly: Oh yes I remember. I would come home crying and try to dust myself off and try again the next day. Finally I got so frustrated I started calling back people who looked at my resume but didn’t call me about jobs to see if they would proof my resume for me. A couple of them did and it was after that that I got in for the interview where they hired me.
#635diva2: Another thought: The Democrats want more Hope money, under I guess, the homeowner ed angle, and would say ..what..now you do not want to help these people get out of the trouble they are in?
Hillary’s idea is obviously the right way to go; set up an entity applicable to all in the foreclosure or near too it mode which provides money and a way to move beyond their situation. Moreover, I think if money is going to be given for this kind of thing, then make sure it goes to local banks who hold and do not sell mortgages, who themselves can continue to work with morgage holders and/or could use additional staff to help new homeowners who are low income. I mean why attempt to create an entirely new set of people who then are trained to do the same thing , and never as well, Iassure you. as the people in the business …
So much waste happens with these layers of so called educaters who themselves are people off the street or people in social services who are and never will be financial people or even good teachers! I have seen so much of this junk in 30 years of nonprofit, quasi linkages with government programs. It can work but not the way it is usually planned, and acted upon.
I think the fan just have been turn on in front the pile of sh*t that mrpimppoverty and his lackeies are sitting on, and it will smell far away
pumasf.1 #677,
“Obama will say “let me clear” or my personal favorite “if you don’t like my answer just ask me again”.”
love it.
((((((((Snowtiger))))))))
#682 NewOrleansPuma
Hillary has shown that she is a true leader here. I hope when McCainn gets in her uses her abilities wisely.
Alice1943 wins the 666 award for the night!
Yay Alice!
Why dont you just go celebrate with Satan, huh?!?
Yo Alice
Hmmmmm………too many chiefs…..not enough indians.
#687 murphy
’cause I wiil be busy tonight.
I am an indian. Bo is a waliking eagle.
ANYONE WANT TO HELP GATHER THE CONTACT INFO FOR EVERYONE ON THE FINANCES COMMITTEE??? They’re the one’s who are working this deal out.
Here’s the link to the list. It’s a lot of folks. If a bunch of PUMAs step forward to help, not sure the best way to organize things so we don’t duplicate efforts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Financial_Services
ANYONE WANT TO HELP GATHER THE CONTACT INFO FOR EVERYONE ON THE FINANCES COMMITTEE??? They’re the one’s who are working this deal out.
Here’s the link to the list. It’s a lot of folks. If a bunch of PUMAs step forward to help, not sure the best way to organize things so we don’t duplicate efforts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Financial_Services
Thanks to my defenders I am not now or have I ever been a racist……
Just one tough COOKIE!!!!!!!!!
684 murphy Can I ask a favor, pretty please? I would really love to get my name back. I’ve been a member of PUMA since the beginning. When I was bad, I apologized. And I keep coming back because I am dedicated to what we stand for, although that is kinda vague sometimes. At heart, tho, I know we love our country and are true patriots.
But you are the boss and chief of this thing, so I’m asking you. I think there are others here who want this for me, too.
694 michelle47 hmmmm—peanut butter, by any chance?
I like native Americans, they have a lot in common with Asians in customs and traditions. I also understand them.
687 murphy HUH???? OMG, NOW what’d I do?
Great new youtube that links Obama directly to the mortgage mess. It is a tad on the fast side with the script, so get ready with the pause button:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
Alice…you’re #666 post..hahahahaha!!!!!!!!
696 Alice1943
My favorite cookie. PB rules.
Anyway, since no one responded, I still think we need a set of guidelines about racist comments. What is and isn’t acceptable? We’ve had this crop up too many times. Imho
Can we mention race at all? The poling by race? The actions of race based activists?
#670 diva2
Didn’t Pelosi say they got what they wanted On Fox just now? I just got home.
I have nothing to say.
#682 NewOrleansPUMA
GREAT point. Maybe nobo will bomb so badly tonight they will kick him out of the party and put Hilllary back in!!
Tucker Carlson of MSNBC said she was the best candidate, was strong and she should have/did win. He said this at a talk. Yes, I was stunned. AND he really likes Sarah Palin as a person.
snowtiger #690 — veddy funny.
reminds of that saying that southjersey or texastigress sometimes says:
“be the type of woman that when you jump out of bed in the morning and your feet hit the floor, Satan looks up and says, ‘Shit! SHE’s up!’”
697 Asian4Hillary I like asians…they have alot in common with us (native americans) LOL But I’m only half.
#705 murphy
You mean my ex?
705 murphy OMG!!! I love it!!!!
OH BROTHER here they go again….
They are “pimping” the pictures of Palin in swimsuit on the msm and all over now…………SO what just because she is a for Beauty Queen “Miss” Whatever…..like that is supposed to disqualify her……
Hell I’d say that qualifies her more….just think of it she can walk around in a swimsuit in high heels and talk and make sense at the same time……Let’s see O-Boi do that….LOL
#709 GBPuma
Lets not see bo that way. =shudder=
#686snowtiger: I certainly hope so too…Don’t know if she would leave the Senate or should but she would be great in charge of one of these huge entities like HUD.
or any number of Cabinet positions. Right now, she is a sweet tune humming in the wind in the face of Congressional Democrats and a Party who know nothing they like better than continued off key sour notes filled with vanity and power….and ultimately service to self. If we get through this, and I think we will, and if we defeat Obama and I think we will, I believe finally we will have lanced enough of the festering deep holes of infections to give us a little room for new growth of many kinds…by the grace of God and hard work.
Geez!!! So what do I have to do ?
McKinney adds to her 10-point plan:
11. appointment of former Comptroller General David Walker to fully audit all recipients of taxpayer cash infusions, including JP Morgan, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and AIG, and to monitor their trading activities into the future;
12. elimination of all derivatives trading;
13. nationalization of the Federal Reserve and the establishment of a federally-owned, public banking system that makes credit available for small businesses, homeowners, manufacturing operations, renewable energy and infrastructure investments; and
14. criminal prosecution of any activities that violated the law, including conflicts of interest that led to the current crisis.
Obama will not stray off his script. He won’t answer the question asked, but will provide an answer to a question he has been coached to answer.
Obama cannot think on his feet. He even went back to using a teleprompter at small campaign events! He now only takes “a couple questions” at press conferences, and provides answers that do not relate to the questions.
If the moderator presses him to get on point, that is when he will start to fall apart. If she lets him stray off course, he will put in an decent performance. McCain should lay in wait, be respectful, and let Obama fire the first shot. Then he should lower the boom, and not let up.
FOX right now!!! Lindsay Graham from last night!
Has anyone seen this. Obama truth squads – What about their bogus ads? This is very scary? Smacks of McCarthyism and Fascism. What is going to happen to freedom of speech?
Once you get to the site, you can also click on the video.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/missouri-sheriffs-prosecuters-form.html
Gosh, I’m getting excited about the debates tonight! LOL. Obama’s at a natural disadvantage. He wilts unless he’s got an audience of worshippers. When there are people there who don’t like him he fades. You can almost see him visually shrink. Now I’m hearing on FOX his strategy is to: Attack. Attack. Attack, McCain. Isn’t that the strategy of a loser? Is that a strategy motivated by FEAR? LOL. It may seem like an offensive strategy; but it stinks of defensiveness and fear. Given the shrill voices and “deer caught in the headlights” looks of the Obamabot Dems and Drooling Hysterical Liberal Media females lately…..I think the fear factor is racheting up off the scale.
I hope Michelle puts fresh diapers on little Bo Peep for tonight.
Ahhh……Acorn is being brought up on FOX!!!
711 NewOrleansPuma “sweet tune humming in the wind”— ike that! Were u talking about Hillary or Murphy?:P
ACORN helped get us in this housing mess. Nobo used to be ACORN’s lawyer!
Saw this on another blog:
Best quote of the day goes to Ruben Navarettet of the San Diego Union Tribune…
“Obama certainly has standing and more than his share of influence. This is, after all, the de-facto leader of the Democratic Party.
Unfortunately, he also looks like someone who is so focused on what he hopes will be his next job that he has lost interest in his current one.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/26/navarrette.obama.mccain/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs
Yes, FOX is saying the Acorn subsidy is a last minute add-on in the BAIL out bill.
#711 NewOrleansPuma
Agreed. We are the forefront of change today. I really believe Hilary will emerge as one of the strongest leaders in our country after this.
Truthfully, I had hoped if Hillary became president sh would work closely with McCAin. We will have the opposite and I think we will all be better off for it. Those two are real leaders imho and will make a great team.
One on the right the other left but, both willing to work for the common good. Just what we need.
NObo was lawyer for election law cases for ACORN. OMG this is crazy! OMG Somebody else please listen to FOX
NewOrleansPuma on 09.26.08 at 5:15 pm #686snowtiger: I certainly hope so too…Don’t know if she would leave the Senate or should but she would be great in charge of one of these huge entities like HUD.
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NOP – I was thinking she would make a wonderful Secretary of State! No foreign leader would dare try to push her around, and if they did, well, I suppose India still welcomes eunuchs…
GRRRRRRRR Now my indian blood is boiling—-ACORN is the Grandmother of all earmarks?
John Fund of the Wall St Journal talking about ACORN and Obama’s ties to it.
Thank you John Fund. Thank you FOX.
FOX NEWS—
Talking about ACORN, the bailout, BO’s relationship with them. Calling this the grandmother of special interest. ACORN associated w/embezzlement etc.
710 snowtiger on 09.26.08 at 5:14 pm #709 GBPuma
Lets not see bo that way. =shudder=
But a nice bejeweled long evening gown and of course a large diamoind tiarra would be nice to cover up his skinny anorexic stick body..and make him feel like such a Queen…I mean King that he thinks he is…..ROFL
NO bailout as long as ACORN is on the table, or any affiliates!!!!
#715 diva2
Ya the Repubs better make a big stink if ACORN is still in the bail out package.
GUY ON FOX re: how bad ACORN is and nobo’s association with them!!
This guy on Fox from WSJ blasted ACORN, his association with ACORN, blamed ACORN on a big part of FAnnieMae and Freddie Mac. Nobo kept the courts clogged as their lawyer when all the election fraud lawsuits came up and he was a trainer for many years for ACORN!!
TOPIC: CHRIS ROCK’s A BIG LIAR
Yeah, that’s right, he might be funny. Sometimes. But he’s a big liar.
During the primaries everyone was sending emails to a skit with Chris Rock saying “A white woman or a black man, hmm, I guess I’ll vote for the black man!” It was terribly sexist & I remember it like it was yesterday because I sent it back to the sender and said I was not amused by his bias against women.
Now he’s on Larry King Live saying “I’m not voting for Obama because he’s black.” Give me a break.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/09/26/chris.rock.lkl/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Chris Rock, you’re a Big Fat Liar!
Um, why are we posting bail for ACORN?
KAT, DIVA, CARICAL, OR ANYONE ELSE IN THE KNOW:
What other names could be used in place of ACORN in this legislation? I think it’s important to know so that when we contact elected officials and they say, No earmarks for ACORN are on the table, we can ask about all the other code names for this org.
I think this is exactly the sort of way that corrupt politicians get away with things and appear innocent. We say, no earmark for ACORN. They say, ACORN’s not on the table, when in fact it is under another name. We’re not savvy enough and go off thinking one thing while they carry on down the very path we thought we had just clarified.
Anyway, if you know other names (is one Project Vote?), please post with an obvious heading. Thanks!
#692 Anna7000
What do u need gathered ?
Drop me a line and it maybe a few minutes to pull what ever u need from my files.
The Bail Out Bill is not exactly the bail out bill I’d like to see associated with the Dems. The one I want to see is administered by sheriffs and Correction Officers and I’d like to see it DENIED.
If all these guys want everyone to have a nice, new house, I’d say that’s what I want for them too.
But the house I want them to have, to hold and to LIVE IN is THE BIG HOUSE.
I think MSNBC does lots of specials, sort of akin to the House shows on Sunday morning, DIY cable channels. But MSNBC does its shows about houses that have big heavy metal doors that clank shut tightly and get locked down every step of the way.
Kind of appropriate now that I think about it that it’s MSNBC that does all these ‘BIG HOUSE’ shows.
Morbid interest and Freudian fear fantasy?
I am sooooo hoping that tonight is a GREAT night for McCain!!
I hope he throws Obama for a loop…..to where he is sitting there with drowl hanging out of his mouth..duh….
Grizzly
That was a very powerful video and direct to the point. I sent the URL to all my friends.
#729 GBPuma
Now I am going to have nightmares. First that pic of MO as a nurse now this.
I am going to go stare at pics of Jessica Alba for awhile.
#733 hillstheone
Thats probably true. He is rabidly anti-republican. I believe bo being black is irrelevant to him. He would vote for Stalin as long as he was running against a republican.
I’m so sad, I can’t watch the debates live with my PUMA friends tonight. I’m a volunteer tonight at the high school football game so I have to tape the debate.
PLEASE post some great post while y’all watch the debate. I’ll be back about 10:00pm central and will catch up then.
Buh bye till then.
#735 Anna7000
HOPE
#738 rlp33
It has to be a slam dunk for McAn. For a year we have been hearing baout how greeat an orator “o” is, now he has to debate. Your average person has high expectations of Carpathia, too high for him tom ever reach. Additionaly, we have benn bombarded with how McCain isnt to great a speaker. Nobody is expecting him to do all that well.
Catch 22.
THIS IS TOO GOOD!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdLX3aRNaNk
Obama from his audio book railing against the white man, in his own words, and in his own voice….
GB PUMA – Post 692 has a link to all the law makers on the Finance Services Committee. Unfortunately, when you click on each name, it only takes you to a Wikepedia site about them. I want to get all their contact info (web site address, phone and fax – if reps, they only have web forms, so e-mail is next to impossible to gather) so I/we can contact them. Do you have a data base with info like this????
#662 ladyhawkke on 09.26.08 at 4:51 pm
#600 Alice1943 I want you to get your name back too. I love Mountain Song. Maybe Murphy could give it back to you.
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I agree!!! Murphy, let her have her name back.
#741 mick
Enjoy the game tonight Mick. Don’t be sad. We’ll keep the home fires burning for you and document every last toss and turn in the debates. When you get back there’ll be a play-by-play waiting for you.
EVERYBODY -
Contacting our state senators and reps is great. But if we don’t get the word to the power brokers on the Finance Services Committee and the media, our job is not done as far as I see it. (Per Alice, aka LG aka MS, IMHO)
An even better clip – Obama’s anti white sentiments, in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs
#741 mick
High School foot ball brings a lot of money in to the schools. Your doing the right thing.
Anna7000
If you haven’t looked at this link, it may provide more info than I can give. There are soooo many associations of Soros, there could even be more than this.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589
#744 Grizzly
Did you read the part where Obama describes his reaction to his mother’s attraction to black men? It turned my stomach.
Not long after I saw those passages in OBama’s book, I saw the movie, “Sympathy for the Devil” (Rolling Stones docufilm of some sort). In that film, interspersed admidst scenes of Rolling Stones rehearsing, performing there were readings from Black Panther/Marxist black writers and intellectuals describing race affairs and black man/white woman sexual attractions. I couldn’t help but put together Obama’s self-righteous, disapproving, condescending judgemental remarks about his own mother from his book. It was just weird. Talk about emotional conflict and confusion….Obama sounded like what he really needed was a good shrink so he could resolve his family of origin conflicts/insecurities and what sure sounds to me like some pretty powerful lingering resentments and poorly disguised hatreds.
I will not be watching the debate..can’t stand even looking at Obama…
I will get my updates here… and I hope to hear GREAT news. : )
Please keep us posted….
#735 ANNA: RE ACORN
Another name for ACORN in the bill is:
“Affordable Housing Fund” and “Capital Magnet Fund”
It’s “3c” of the draft bailout agreement.
See this article, and click on the link to see the pdf. for yourself.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/26/the-acorn-poison-pill/
REMEMBER NOVEMBER – You have mail(s)!
“Sympathy for the Devil” from the 60’s or early ’70’s…..Height of the Black Panther Movement era.
I have been sitting here hoping against hope that Jim Lehrer is going to be fair tonight, so I decided to send a letter, for better or worse.
To whom it may concern:
I have long admired Mr, Lehrer’s work since the days when he was teamed up with Robert MacNeil.
However, I have some misgivings about tonight’s debate. Senator Obama has been quite hesitant to debate since the trouncing given him by Senator Clinton. Yet he seems very eager for the debate tonight.
The reason for my misgivings about tonight is that there are rumors that Mr. Lehrer favors Senator Obama who has spent days preparing for this debate. Is there any possibility that Senator Obama has been given the questions he will be asked ahead of time? Also we would like to be assured that Senator Obama will not be given “soft” questions while the harder ones will be reserved for Senator McCain. It is common knowledge that the MSM is “in the tank” for Senator Obama and does whatever it can do to promote their candidate and to tear down anyone or anything that supports Senator McCain.
We will be watching for any favoritism in the debate tonight. I sincerely hope that Mr. Lehrer does not disappoint us.
Sincerely,
NAME
A PUMA Democrat for McCain
Anna7000
After you look at the Soros link, you may recgnize names that I don’t. Under some of the links there are sub-links that shows more info.
Anna7000
After you look at the Soros link, you may recgnize names that I don’t. Under some of the links there are sub-links that shows more info.
746 BillieJo Thanks, Billi Jo
Maybe they are putting ACORN in the deal because they are tied to HUD? After the company email I got today showing the FHA rates they are offering with alternative credit etc. I am thinking this is why they stuck it in. The government is still offering loans to people that really do not qualify. I am an insurance agent but my boss and the people he works for have mortgage licenses, they get people financed and make huge commissions on it. I just got the email because I run one of his offices.
TOPIC: HUFFINGTON
re: “RedStateGuy on 09.26.08 at 3:41 pm
PALIN BEAUTY CONTEST VIDEO POSTED
The creeps over at huffingtonpost have video of the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant with Sarah Heath (Palin) swimsuit competition.”
I may be a single parent, working full time, raising 2 kids, commuting an hour each way to work, volunteer in the community, I’m busy & tired but at least I’ve got a good job.
If I EVER find time to organize another prowl, you damn well believe it will be against HUFFPO.
Arrianna Huffington, look out you have ticked me off one too many times!
Kat – Thanks.
Diva – Oh, God. I can’t take that on. I’m feeling overwhelmed. (By the way, how are you doing with your back. I forgot to ask in all of this frenzy)
PLEASE BLOG ON OTHER SITES RE:
The info re: nobo and SCORN, being their attorney and trainer, Soros connection and money behind all of it to other sites you may blog on.
Wish McCain would open this up at the debate.
Alice1943 & Michelle I didn’t see anything racist to talk about. I think everyone is getting touchy and I, for one, am sick of people getting called racists for any comment. Just the facts, mam!!!
#753 rlp33
I am not watching either. Two people I can’t watch..Bush and OB. I will get my info here also. Thanks to those that have the guts to watch
754 kat in your hat LOL
Money for ACORN—that’s NUTS!!!
I am going to scan (at home) the “ad” that was in the email and send it to the Attorney General for my state, and also to the media.
@744 Grizzly
That youtube is Obama reading from his book, and he is actually quoting and reenacting a Rev. Wright sermon.
“White Folk’s Greed Runs a World in Need” is very much a black liberation theology quote, James Cone has said it and other black power activists.
Anyway, Obama’s book is strictly a call for black nationalism, to invoke racial solidarity, which, as we know, succeeded, but it was for votes.
Another site to check during the debate:
http://www.bloggingthedebates.com
@ 767, Alice, Exactly! Very nutty.
I’ll bet they didn’t mention that Sarah was in the beauty pageant for the scholarship so she cold attend college, while Obama was being given a free ride by those questionable characters.
Obama didn’t need to parade himself as he ha
748 Anna7000 OK, what can I do to help?
#111 – john RE:
“U.S. federal agents say they have enough evidence to indict Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich for fraud and conspiracy http://countusout.wordpress.com
Is Rezko cooperating, is Obama next?”
See my edit, below:
“The Chicago Sun-Times has reported Rezko could cut his prison time significantly by cooperating in investigations of other public figures, including Blagojevich. (and let’s hope, Obama) !!!”
I intended to delete the last sentence.
#741 mick
I’m so sad, I can’t watch the debates live with my PUMA friends tonight. I’m a volunteer tonight at the high school football game …………………………..
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I have two boys that play high school football (NC), we appreciate every volunteer that is willing to give up there friday night. So we may watch our boys play. Thank you mick!
TOPIC: TONIGHT’s DEBATE
Did somebody actually say they were nervous to watch these?
Honestly McCain is going to CREAM Obama. Obama doesn’t stand a chance.
Pull up your chairs, and get ready for a party the likes we haven’t seen since pre-Convention.
#763 Anna7000
Sorry, I was just giving it to you as background info. I think you have the other names that I think New Orleans PUMA left and the HOPE one I added.
I have this funny mind that can remember that I have seen something and usually know about 80-90% of the info. but may not remember names, etc.
I hope we can meet someday so I can personally thank you for all you hae done. Thanks for asking about my back. The mid-back is the worse now. My lower back and upper back have had the new procedure and I hope the mid-back will be next.
PLEASE don’t get too stressed — nothing is worth your health.
#764 CORRECTION
Meant ACORN, not SCORN but think it was a funny typo.
#481 rain. Absolutely correct. My resident obot proclaims himself a socialist and says bo is also. So it makes me wonder, is the democratic party actually for socialism? Seems that way. I’m for socialized healthcare for obvious reasons and want it available to everyone (we already have it in Medicare and Medicaid). The cost of our healthcare system are so outragous that it is jeopardizing the health of the people. Something must be done. But, I am not for socialism. Remember that video where bo declares that he will create a “National Security Force” that is bigger and better funded than the military? Geeze, that scared me. Yeah, they say what he really meant was an expanded peace corp type of thing. Doubt it.
Washington Mutual CEO gets 20 mill after only 17 days on the job.
Grrr.
32 diva2 on 09.26.08 at 5:22 pm
GUY ON FOX re: how bad ACORN is and nobo’s association with them!!
This guy on Fox from WSJ blasted ACORN, his association with ACORN, blamed ACORN on a big part of FAnnieMae and Freddie Mac. Nobo kept the courts clogged as their lawyer when all the election fraud lawsuits came up and he was a trainer for many years for ACORN!!
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I just saw it too on Fox and didn’t get the guys name… anyone remember that guy that was reporting the ACORN scam?
UPDATED MEDIA LETTER
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To all interested parties:
I am writing with a specific concern as it pertains to the current negotiations to pass legislation to fend off further financial and economic collapse. On Thursday, September 25th, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina was on CNN and other networks discussing the negotiations and noted that one component of this complex puzzle that is on the table includes an earmark for a the non-profit organization called ACORN. In sum, ACORN may be slated to receive a hefty chunk of funds in this bailout package.
On the face of things, many may not realize the troublesome nature of this as ACORN may be presented to the public as an innocent organization involved with housing assistance. It may be referred to as “Affordable Housing Fund” or “Capital Magnet Fund.” However, for those not familiar with ACORN, they are a group that has been involved with voter fraud for many years. As recently as last week an investigation was called for in North Carolina regarding several members of ACORN who are allegedly engaged in voter fraud in the Durham area. If you Google “ACORN voter fraud” you will get nearly 180,000 hits. The case against them is long and ever growing.
In addition, there are conflict of interest concerns. Senator Obama and his campaign have been heavily involved with ACORN, both in the past when Mr. Obama was a community organizer and served as an attorney for ACORN, and more recently in his presidential campaign when ACORN has been integrally involved in “canvassing” and registering voters on his behalf. The problem is, ACORN’s tactics not infrequently include illegal activity with regard to voter registration.
It’s criminal that voter fraud has been perpetuated by ACORN. To imagine that this group would receive a single penny in benefits from any bail out package is unthinkable. I want my money AND our voting system protected. Toward that end, I am monitoring the activities of our elected officials closely on this matter and hope the media will do so as well, particularly regarding further investigation of ACORN.
#782 Billie Jo
I taped it, give me a little time and will find it.
ATTN Pumas, read this for ACORN updates/ info
Sen. Graham Mentions ACORN
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/26/sen-graham-mentions-acorn/#more-5069
(Keep checking back at No Quarter for ACORN updates, I am going offline, pumas. Be back later.)
#777 hillstheone
TOPIC: TONIGHT’s DEBATE
Did somebody actually say they were nervous to watch these?
That be me…For me it is anxiety and anger and the fact I just can’t stand OB.
Alice – Thanks for your offer. I don’t know. I’m waiting to hear back if GB PUMA has contact info for the folks on the Finance Committee.
I gotta eat —
perhaps, when katie the couric asks joe biden, how is obama a reformer, or how has he changed anything in congress, we will get an answer of pure, what, exaggerations LOLOLOLOL
katie couric, is she a reporter, or a distorter
@783 Anna: Before I go:
Add in paragraph 3 that Obama was a lawyer for ACORN.
Also, see here, to add anything else:
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/ACORN.htm
#751 Diva2 I read the Soros link and I believe he is public enemy #1. I am disturbed that Hillary is also associated with him. Money brings greed and corruption. If you sleep with dogs, you will get fleas.
789 Kat – I did.
1. Will there be a Presidential debate tonight?
No surprise here, Yes.
2. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed today?
No
3. Will there be a Bailout Plan passed at all?
Yes
4. Who will benefit politically from this week’s financial turmoil — Obama or McCain?
McCain after tonight’s debate
5. Who will be blamed for whatever goes wrong with the financial markets between now and November — the Republicans or the Democrats?
Repubs
6. What will Obama say more often — “ummm” or “ahhh”? Dark horse option: “well, look”
6. He’ll stutter & also put his hand in front of him like a Stop Sign like he always does.
#782 BillieJo
His name was John Fund. He’s with the Wall St Journal.
@780:
“So it makes me wonder, is the democratic party actually for socialism?”
lol…
Yes. Many dems are for socialism, not all. There is always a tug of war, those capitalists and federalists and liberals and socialists.
Problem now is that Obama’s crew (socialism crew) has shifted to actually have big power.
K, NOW I am signing off. Be back later.
#793 BrooklynNY on 09.26.08 at 6:00 pm
#782 BillieJo
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Thanks, I am off to get more info.
Kat – Thanks for all your help. You always provide so many resources and reliable info!!!!
#782 BillieJo
The guy was from the Wall Street Journal and his name
John Fund. His book is called “stealing elections”
Sen.Chris Dodd is pushing the 20% for ACORN to go to
housing trust fund.
4hillin CA #786, well then keep your cat channel tuned right here to Puma PAC. We’ll be live-blogging and happy houring the whole time!
quick! run out to the packy and getcher poison! It’s gonna be a looong night!
ANYONE blog over at John McCain’s website? If so, please blog the ACORN info to them and let them put the pressure on the Repubs.
4hillinCa,
Thanks, I couldn’t remember who said it. Well, worry no more, my dear, you are going to enjoy yourself tonite!
Dodd, with his very own Countrywide Sweetheart mortgage, shouldn’t even be a player in these talks. What’s he doing there? He doesn’t belong in the group trying to find a solution; or maybe he’s perfect negotiator for the Dem side. He got his; now he wants to make sure all his buddies and crooked pals get theirs too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26clinton.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
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September 26, 2008
Bill Clinton’s Return Poses a Test of Party Loyalty
By PAUL VITELLO
In a week when a great financial crisis came to a head and the presidential campaign reached a kind of warp-speed intensity, the man who seemed most likely to be there when you turned on a television was not the president or the treasury secretary or the candidates. It was Bill Clinton.
As usual, he had a lot to say. What was unusual was the stir he made for things he did not say.
Mr. Clinton made appearances on morning news shows and late-night talk shows, many or all of them scheduled to coincide with the three-day annual meeting in New York of the Clinton Global Initiative.
His passion about the philanthropic conference was clear.
But perhaps because of the contrast with that passion, Mr. Clinton’s answers to questions about the presidential race between Senators Barack Obama and John McCain seemed to some Obama supporters like the damning faint praise of a Democratic holdout.
The question arose Thursday, when both candidates appeared at Mr. Clinton’s conference — Mr. McCain in person, Mr. Obama via satellite. Was this a metaphor for Mr. Clinton’s relationship with each one, or just a scheduling conflict?
Mr. Clinton has repeatedly described Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, as honest and trustworthy, though the Obama campaign has argued that Mr. McCain’s campaign rhetoric indicates otherwise. Mr. Clinton has missed few opportunities, while allowing that he disagrees politically with Mr. McCain, of Arizona, to say how much he likes the senator and to praise him for his support of Mr. Clinton’s efforts as president to normalize relations with Vietnam and intervene in Bosnia.
Mr. Clinton also went out of his way to praise Mr. McCain’s running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska. “I come from Arkansas,” he told reporters, “I get why she’s hot out there.”
As comfortable as Mr. Clinton is in saying, “I like John McCain,” and “I like Sarah Palin,” no one seems to have heard him say the same for Mr. Obama. Instead, when speaking of Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee, Mr. Clinton has assumed a professorial stance that sometimes drifts toward emotional aloofness and disregard.
“Is it me, or he didn’t want to say the name ‘Barack Obama’?” the comedian Chris Rock asked with barely contained anger when he appeared Monday night on “Late Show With David Letterman” immediately after Mr. Letterman’s 15-minute interview with Mr. Clinton.
Answering Mr. Letterman’s questions, Mr. Clinton gave a dispassionate discourse on the cultural and political dynamics of the race, which, he said, would ultimately play in Mr. Obama’s favor. Mr. Clinton mentioned his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, who had lost the Democratic primary to Mr. Obama, far more often than he mentioned the party’s standard-bearer. And in predicting victory for Mr. Obama, Mr. Clinton suggested that it would happen because people were hurting economically. He did not say that Mr. Obama’s victory would be because voters especially wanted Mr. Obama to be president.
“People will wind up liking both of them,” Mr. Clinton said. “People will go in that polling booth and say: ‘You know, I really admire Senator McCain. He gave about all you could give to this country without getting killed for it. But I’ve got to have a change, and I’m going the other way.’ ”
By “the other way,” he apparently meant Mr. Obama.
Recently, Mr. Clinton said he planned to campaign for Mr. Obama in Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Mrs. Clinton, meanwhile, has been campaigning for her former rival, and has urged her former donors to contribute to his campaign.
It has been widely reported that there is no love lost between Mr. Clinton and Mr. Obama. But Mr. Clinton’s plans for campaigning, and his rousing endorsement speech at the Democratic convention last month — after the long and bitter contest between Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton — are formidable acts of party loyalty and personal discipline.
And on Thursday, as if to make up for what has been perceived as his week of political neutrality, Mr. Clinton introduced Mr. Obama’s speech at the Clinton Global Initiative meeting with an extended accolade. He described Mr. Obama as thoughtful, incisive and committed to the goals of bringing peace and prosperity to his country and the world.
It was a ringing statement of respect, if still not quite the easy affection Mr. Clinton expresses when speaking of Mr. McCain.
The night after his appearance on Mr. Letterman’s show, Mr. Clinton was on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart,” where Mr. Stewart defended him against the charge of aloofness and suggested that the only way to satisfy some Obama supporters would be “to get a tattoo or some type of permanent bumper sticker” placed on his person.
Without smiling, Mr. Clinton said: “The purpose of this election is not for people to pass emotional hurdle tests. This is not a Rorschach test. This is about winning an election that can change the future of the country.”
On “Larry King Live” the next night, Mr. Clinton said that while John McCain was a friend — one who had “stood up to his party” to help normalize relations with Vietnam, “stood up to stop ethnic cleansing in Bosnia,” and was a national hero — Mr. Obama’s political views “are much closer to what Hillary and I want.”
Sorry Murphy. Palin is not a rookie. She is clueless. They should have picked any one of many republican women with some working grey cells. My guess is they picked her because she could be an eager little marionette. No vote from me. I will not condone this pair getting into power. I’ll write in Hillary – if it spoils my ballot – so be it.
Bill Clinton’s Return Poses a Test of Party Loyalty
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26clinton.html
The New York Times walks a fine line but at least they seem to still support Bill Clinton. (Ya think maybe somebody over there read all our PROWLS back in July)?!! ;D
Karen you stole my thunder. ;D
McCain blog has mentioned the evils of ACORN before. I’ll post it again in a bit… right now need to help my 84 year old mom take a shower, LOL. She needs a lot of help yet, even though her hip replacement was 8/1.
Dodd, NObama, Kerry, Barney Frank should RECUSE themselves from this bailout deal. These are the very people that caused this problem!
The Democratic Party is DOWNRIGHT CORRUPT! How many times the democratic party have done this stealing from US TAXPAYERS!
#794 kat in the hat
Must read about George Soros and it will give you more insight intp this than you want and it is VERY scary. This will get you started. Read about his secondary affiliations. They are so far left that it is beyond een understanding IMOP. Soros IS the money machine and the person who owns/runs the dems and nobo. It will give you insight into nobo, Pelosi, Reid, etc. Have your teddy bear with you to help you sleep after reading this information. There is so much on him, this site is just an outline. Got to search under ACORN and embezzlement and see where some of OUR money went a few years ago.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589
Here we go, mainstream media on ACORN and the bailout:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121745181676698197.html
The housing bill signed Wednesday by President George W. Bush will provide a stream of billions of dollars for distressed homeowners and communities and the nonprofit groups that serve them.
[Acorn volunteers] Brody Mullins/The Wall Street Journal
Acorn volunteers registered people to vote in late July.
One of the biggest likely beneficiaries, despite Republican objections: Acorn, a housing advocacy group that also helps lead ambitious voter-registration efforts benefiting Democrats.
Acorn — made up of several legally distinct groups under that name — has become an important player in the Democrats’ effort to win the White House. Its voter mobilization arm is co-managing a $15.9 million campaign with the group Project Vote to register 1.2 million low-income Hispanics and African-Americans, who are among those most likely to vote Democratic. Technically nonpartisan, the effort is one of the largest such voter-registration drives on record.
The organization’s main advocacy group lobbied hard for passage of the housing bill, which provides nearly $5 billion for affordable housing, financial counseling and mortgage restructuring for people and neighborhoods affected by the housing meltdown. A third Acorn arm, its housing corporation, does a large share of that work on the ground.
#805…. sorry, Hillstheone… LOL..
Murphy
If you can, please get back to me regarding email sent from action center at around 9am pacific: “DRAFT”.
Thanks.
#803 Sue66, question for you.. why don’t you reserve judgement on Palin until after you hear her against Biden in the Veep debate?
one thing is to have a socialist party in power, that goes by the game of the rules of democracy, and something altoghether different is to have an antiamerican group that wants to overthrow , to abort the american experience of democracy of more than 200 yrs,
Hi all,
I was thinking about this for a couple of days and finally just sent this e-mail to the PBS show NOW:
“Dear NOW:
I just voted on one of your online polls:http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/poll/poll.pl
Why is it that you don’t also ask if the public thinks Barack Obama is qualified to be president? It is a valid question. After all, you feel justified in asking if a female governor is qualified to be vice-president. Don’t you consider this unequal and biased treatment of a person who is not even running for the most important office in the United States? I do.”
How about this PUMAS!!! Remember when nobama said that he was against the Iraq war – but said if he were in the senate he doesn’t know how he would have voted?
Well, in the final version of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act of 1999 (for deregulation), John McCain did not vote for it. He was absent!!! So, they techically they can not say that he voted for deregulation!!!
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354
I received a weird phone call last week.
An AA woman said “Hi, we’re doing a poll on voting. How likely are you to vote in the Presidential election.”
When I said “very”, she hung up.
Is it possible someone is calling registered voters to get the names of people who aren’t voting? So they can vote for them? I know it’s unlikely, but with Acorn, it seems anything is possible.
Notice how Nancy P looks like she’s really a stuffed animal these days and not a real person? Her face has this constant terrified look – looks like she’s just waiting for the sh*t to hit the fan and that whole flimsy house of cards the Dems have constructed to come crashing down on her.
It’s just a matter of time, Nancy dear. Maybe you should start consulting with Martha Stewart and picking out your curtains for your cubicle at the federal resort Martha spent some months at not too long ago. Maybe you can trade in-your-cubicle cooking for shut-ins at the Big House.
#817
add “recipes” to the end of my post….
#799 diva2 on 09.26.08 at 6:05 pm
ANYONE blog over at John McCain’s website? If so, please blog the ACORN info to them and let them put the pressure on the Repubs.
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GREAT IDEA – WE NEED HELP. I wouldn’t know where to find a McCain site.
I and am working on contact info for Financial Services Committee for Anna. If anyone else is doing it – I have started from the bottom of the list on the Minority side in the Wikipedia reference.
GBPUMA
- do you have the info – would save an awful lot of work
and give us precious time. Thanks
Murphy,
You just reminded me of one of my favorite sayings:
Every morning in Africa, a Gazelle wakes up. On that day, he knows that he must run faster then the lion, or he will be eaten. Every moning in Africa, a Lion wakes up. On that day, he knows that he must be faster then the Gazelle, or he will go hungry. When you wake up every morning, whether you or a Lion or a Gazelle, you had better be running.
“No vote from me. I will not condone this pair getting into power.”
Is it condoning if it’s a protest vote and the objective is to keep Oracistlackwit from becoming the next President? Not trying to change your mind, just questioning your framing of the issue.
sue66 – if you write in a name that is not “official” as a write in in your state, you could be doing more than soiling your ballot. you could be casting your vote for obama because in some states if you write in a name that’s not official as a write in, your vote could go to the official candidate of the party of the person whose name you wrote in. there are all sorts of crazy ways voting works and it varies state-by-state. you may want to call the secretary of state in your state and ask what the implications would be of writing in a name that’s not on the official list to be written in.
this is not about me encouraging you to vote for mccain/palin. it’s about making sure you’re informed when you vote so you don’t innocently do something you are trying to avoid (ie, cast a vote for bo).
I think part of Sarah Palin’s attraction is she is no insider Washington pol. I LIKE that. I don’t care that she doesn’t answer media questions in the regular Washington pol double-speak gobblydegook. It’s a big PLUS; not a minus.
Give her time…..She’ll be mincing and dicing all those condescending media insiders like a Sushi chef.
I just hope she doesn’t lose her authenticity in the process and I hope her dear daughter isn’t permanently damaged by the likes of that crappy, sadistic, lunatic fringe press.
I’d love to see how Katie Kouric would handle things had one of HER daughters been trashed like Palin’s has. I just hope those delightful Palin children come out of this unharmed and especially that the little one, Piper, doesn’t lose her overflowing joyfulness in being by her mother’s side through all this.
#809 BillieJo
That doesn’t cover the hundreds, if not thousands of dead people, forged names, animals and nonexistent people they have registered. Or the tons of voter fraud, embezzlement and other charges they have had over the years. It doesn’t cover the intimidation that they have done when signing up voters (although wonder how they do it with dead people). It doesn’t cover the millions of taxpayer dollars used to finance these practices andSoros. It doesn’t cover the fact that nobo and Dems. are basically the only ones who use them. It doesn’t cover there role in the housing market and Fund’s comments earlier, that he believes they had a big role in the failed Fannie and Freddie loa n companies or their lending practices to people who didin’t qualified.
What you read is only what the Dems. want you to hear and maybe some Repubs. who have been bankrolled by
them.
Thank you for researching that and maybe the WSJ has also posted Fund’s thoughts and comments from earlier today.
You are doing an AWESOME job! Thank you so much for being there for people like me whose heart wants to do more but whose body can’t!
lol
debate and cocktails up!
feel free repost comments.
take it upstairs!
hey dances! missed you today!
There was a fellow from the Wall Street Journal that has a new book out on VOTER FRAUD and he was very emphatic about ACORN being part of the ‘bailout’bill and he was incensed !!! He named Obama as being the attorney originally with the group to ‘keep the legal pipeline’ clogged regarding ballots from dead people, etc.-then went on to say Obama was the HEAD TRAINER for the group in voting registration ‘procedures’. Of course, this was n Fox, I don’t watch the other channels any longer so can’t say if this was anywhere else…probably not. So, my point is…it is NOT a rumor,internet or otherwise. ACORN is well known on the Hill and I think the public is just finding out about it …FINALLY THROUGH the internet. If we really do get to have a REAL VOTE this year,it is time to vote OUT MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE and get some new blood in our government..they are rapidly leading us into Socialism. If Obama gets in, the first thing to go will be term limits on Presidents. Then we can all watch as our country goes third world, with ‘elections’ like Obamas cousin Odingas in Kenyan and Mugabe in Zimbabwe. We are in trouble and not just on Wall Street.
Maybe Dodd slipped ACORN into the bailout as payback for all the fraudulent voters they have registered for the Dems throughout the US.
After all, it must be “hard work,” thinking up fictious names, checking the obituaries, birth announcements, to come up with more names.
#824 diva2
#809 BillieJo
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You’re right, certainly doesn’t come out with all the ACORN caucus fraud either, but is more of a first step in the main stream media getting into the facts.
Have to say, seems like the Republicans are on to this in the stalemate of not approving the bailout… at least I hope that is part of it.
In this election I almost think instead of being part of the PUMA movement…. we are more like a case of the X-Files from the Twilight Zone.
#830 BillieJo
We are the lone gunmen.
#814 Lara08
NOW, NARAL, Planned Parenthood,etc are all Soros’ associations and afilliations. Sorry! But at leasst we know why they all endorsed or voted for nobo. Bet all those people who belonged to NARAL and were so angry that the organization endorsed nobo didn’t know about his deep connection via Soros to those groups.
Hi diva2,
They moved the conversation upstairs. If you like you can repost. -Larra08
The rescue plan.
http://www.gocomics.com/claybennett/2008/09/24/
#830 BillieJo Ha ha… no no say it isn’t so!! Okay, I’ve been accused of going off the deep end and being “worrisome” because I don’t support obama and do believe the election was rigged and it pissed me off , but when you put it terms of sci-fi… seems, well, okay… always liked Rod, Mully & Sculder
Democrats Play Politics with Bailout!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnOh8wpBIfs
662 ladyhawkke on 09.26.08 at 4:51 pm #600 Alice1943 I want you to get your name back too. I love Mountain Song. Maybe Murphy could give it back to you.
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MURPHY, I request for Alice 1943 that you give her back her true name back Mountain Song… PLEASE!!!
Could other pumas support Alice 1943’s request?
Prowl don.
Acorn Grrrrr.
#837 TerryDo
I support it also! love the Mountain Song name!
I called and emailed my Congressman, emailed both Senators.
McCain has an ad out already on the debate tonight”
http://www.classicalvalues.com/
Actually:
The 20% is NOT for the total. It’s for the profit portion, if any, of asset sales of the covered mortgages, etc. For example, if of ten sales, 2 are at a loss, 6 are break-even, and 2 are at a profit, 20% of the profit from the last 2 would go to ACORN and LA RASA.
So, the total return might be $2 million, of which perhaps $500,000 came on the profitable sales. Of that $500,000, $100,000 might be profit. So of that profit, 20% would amount to $20,000.
So in this example, $20,000 out of $2,000,000 total proceeds would go to ACORN and LA RASA, which is 1%.
That sounds like much less, but it depends on how the $700 Billion is being accounted for. If it represents the total assets, then the above is right. But if it is the “cushion” against losses, then the numbers change, and the net % going to ACORN etc. jumps up, though it’s very hard to say how much.
Just keep in mind that it’s PROFIT from sales of distressed assets that is being allocated here.
Will someone see that Carrie gets this or that someone sends it on to the Action Center, re:ACORN. I saw it at NOQ.
http://www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/JamesTerryACORN9-24.pdf
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