No fair! How come Hillary doesn’t have to wear a bib?!
Obama Gets to Sit at the Grownups Table!
September 25th, 2008 | Puma PAC
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No fair! How come Hillary doesn’t have to wear a bib?!
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Wasnt expecting that graphic to be there!! LOL
whewww No 1 on top of it all.
Going to make my contribution.
#3??
I call that “Bib Boy sits at the Big Boy Table”
Awesome Pic DWP…
Great photo op for Pelosi!!
Mommae said Phil Berg will now be on between 9 and 9:30 tonight.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mommaEradioRebels/2008/09/26/Momma-E-and-the-Radio-Rebels
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4 DWP –
I can’t enlarge the pic and I know you went to alot of trouble with the bib. Can you tell me what it says on the bib or how to make the pic larger, so I can read it?
I know you wrote something funny on it.
#411 1gypsy4mc on 09.25.08 at 8:34 pm
399 BillieJo Darn you good!! I was wondering if it was you. That was fast!! Thanks!
Howard Dean’s BROTHER made that ugly youtube, but says he doesn’t know anything about it. Can you sent that one to Drudge Reports?
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WE ALL NEED TO GET INTO THE HABIT OF PUTTING GOOD INFORMATION OUT IN THE MEDIA, THE DRUDGE REPORT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS FOLLOWING THOUGH RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON FOX NEWS AND OTHER SITES.
We are well informed here on the blog, but it doesn’t do others any good if we don’t share it. I bet many Democrats would protest if they knew what we know. Many don’t think the stuff they fear is any different than any other election.
PUT stuff on Drudge http://www.drudgereport.com/
Right hand side about half way down, copy/and paste it into the little box. Leave a browser tab or window open so it’s handy.
Another easy place is Fox:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,428165,00.html
Little box on the left.
Dances- could you please put these two links on the action site?
That’s a great picture and all or most of the people are there to spoon feed little Bo Bo
1 DancesWithPumas on 09.25.08 at 8:40 pm
Wasnt expecting that graphic to be there!! LOL
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Where’s his high chair and dunce cap Dances?
9 goofsmom
The original photo is small. If you enlarged it it would prbabaly look pixelated. I didn’t write anything on the bib… too small, wouldnt have been readable. The bib says something about little boys. I did it quickly and sent to BillieJo to give her a laugh, and cc’ed it to Murphy.
Cute picture. You guys are really good with that stuff!
Thanks Dances…
Showed it to goofsdad and he was roflhao.
#11 Pookie
Great idea for a stress releaf. Name that photo or tell what the people in the photo are saying….
– That’s a great picture and all or most of the people are there to spoon feed little Bo Bo
- Bib Boy sits at the Big Boy Table
SUBJECT: JOHN MCCAIN’S 2005 HOUSING REGULATORY REFORM ACT
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Bill Summary:
1/26/2005–Introduced. Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 – Amends the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish:
(1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and
(2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board. Sets forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions of the Agency, including provisions respecting:
(1) assessment authority;
(2) authority to limit non-mission-related assets;
(3) minimum and critical capital levels;
(4) risk-based capital test;
(5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises;
(6) enforcement actions and penalties;
(7) golden parachutes; and
(8) reporting. Amends the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation.
Transfers the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation. Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements. Abolishes the Federal Housing Finance Board.
The bill introduced in 2005 — John McCain sponsor.
Get this out to everyone you know and prove:
That Obama is a liar and blaming the republicans for our financial crisis when the record shows that it was the democrats including Obama and Biden, that voted against regulatory reform. They blocked this bill from passing!
Democrat Barney Frank was very vocal speaking out against regulatory reform in 2005/6. Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd chair the banking and finance committees. However, where were they during the buildup to this crisis? They had ample warning from John McCain and Alan Greenspan in 2005/6 and did nothing. They fought against regulatory reform of Freddie and Fannie which lead to the root cause of America’s financial crisis on wallstreet. Their incompetence is obscene!
Now we look to them to solve the problem? With their record, its no wonder they’re stumbling all over themselves to blame the Republicans. Even Bush tried to pass regulatory reform in 2003 and the democrats blocked him.
Let’s chalk this catastrophe up to Obama’s good judgment? Obama is ready to RUN away, not ready to accept responsibility, and definitely not ready to lead, not now, not ever!! Can we trust Obama with our economic security? NO. Obama tried to push the blame for his bad decision onto John McCain. Obama voted against regulation and McCain sponsored a bill for it.
It’s pretty clear that John McCain can be trusted with our economy and Obama should go hide under a rock!
BillieJo,
Will do
http://www.drudgereport.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,428165,00.html
Little box on the left.
I had some other stuff to do today… highchair would have taken a while… and, with some folks you don;t need to cap to idnetify them as dunces.
Billiejo
Bush: did you wash your hands Bo
Nancy: I washed them for him
John: who wiped his a*s
all hands go up except John’s and George’s
wonder whatever happened to the aid in Clintons office that used to come on here, the one who said he’d see you all in Denver.
#19 Pookie
I can’t top that Pookie. Kudos!
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Finally, not only a smile- a large gaffaw on top !!
BillieJo
Posted in Media and Prowls (for convenience)
#20 Caracal Carrie on 09.25.08 at 9:05 pm
wonder whatever happened to the aid in Clintons office that used to come on here, the one who said he’d see you all in Denver.
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I have thought of that guy too, I think his name was John. Didn’t he say before Denver they were closing certain areas, he had a new supervisor and they were not getting much inside info lately?
20 Caracal Carrie
Paul? or whatever his name was…
he didn’t like being questioned and having his credibility challenged
Paul was teh guy who called blogtalk radio one Sunday…
all sorts of goodies … that never panned out.
Love that photograph.
Thank you very much PUMAs for everything you do every day. You keep my spirits high.
Good night all!
I always wondered if he was on the level. I guess he just ran out of crap to tell us..
#120 c4hill,
You wrote:
“the only thing that changed over the last 10 days are his poll numbers-Rick Davis taking 15k/month from fannie until last month(which palin lied to Katie couric about last night-saying he hasn’t had any dealings in 2 years–UNTRUE)”
Ms. Palin did not lie to Ms. Couric. She said she has an “understanding” that Davis recused himself of those dealings.
Here is the transcript to her answer to Ms. Curic constant query about Rick Davis:
Sarah Palin: “My understanding is that Rick Davis recused himself from the dealings of the firm. I don’t know how long ago, a year or two ago that he’s not benefiting from that. And you know, I was – I would hope that’s not the case.”
Katie Couric: “But he still has a stake in the company so isn’t that a conflict of interest?”
Palin: “Again, my understanding is that he recused himself from the dealings with Freddie and Fannie, any lobbying efforts on his part there. And I would hope that’s the case because, as John McCain has been saying, and as I’ve on a much more local level been also rallying against is the undue influence of lobbyists in public policy decisions being made.”
You see, that is what Ms. Palin actually said. She didn’t lie as you have stated. Her understanding was that Rick Davis recused himself from the dealings from the firm. Her “understanding”. Understood?
Then you went on to state:
“Palin couldn’t site one example in which Mccain has wanted any form of regulation”
Here again is the transcript regarding what you didn’t read clearly:
Couric: “You’ve said, quote, “John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business.” Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?”
Palin: “I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie – that, that’s paramount. That’s more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.”
Couric: “But he’s been in Congress for 26 years. He’s been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.”
Palin: “He’s also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he’s been talking about – the need to reform government.”
Ms. Palin did, indeed, offer one example of reform by McCain– that of stricter regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which was already a well known fact about him to the general public. She simple could not list others at the time (No big deal I might add. Curic looked the fool on that line of questioning).
As for these other musings of yours about McCain:
“He wanted to privatize SS and healthcare–seriously.”
Some like that some don’t.
“HE voted against the minumum wage childrens healthcare, equal pay for equal work and doesn’t realize that we cannot “win ” the war in Iraq.”
There is proper context to everything. McCain is a good man who loves his country more than himself. He loves children, even adopted one, who wouldn’t deny them their needs, doesn’t feel threatened by strong women either (i.e. Palin, Mrs. McCain and his mother).
As for the war and your term of “cutting our losses”. I take it you mean soldiers. Well, I’ll not comment on your phrasiology of Americans who have, according to you, sacrificed their lives in vain.
Again, McCain is a good man… better than any candidate of principles I’ve seen this year. Trust him to know your pain because he’s been there in his own way. He’ll do what’s best for all Americans for it’s they he cares for the most in life. Whatever he can’t help you with, c4hill, then help yourself.
At least read stuff about McCain and Ms. Palin more closely, accurately and objectively. Both these people should look better to you if you’ll just try.
http://wcco.com/national/palin.couric.interview.2.824872.html
Dances….. I love your style!!
yesterday my pet goat and now this….at least you are adding humor to all this crap!!
Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture????????
Who gave Congress and the President the credit card with the unlimited balance??????
“Bush administration called on Congress to approve an unprecedented plan to authorize the use of
unlimited public funds to bail out ” Who ever told Bush that we had “UNLIMITED PUBLIC FUNDS”?
BAILOUTS SINCE 1970:
Industry/Corporation Year Cost in 2008 U.S. Dollars
(Billions $)
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Penn Central Railroad 1970 3.2 ($3,200,000,000.00)
Lockheed 1971 1.4 ($1,400,000,000.00)
Franklin National Bank 1974 7.7 ($7,700,000,000.00)
New York City 1975 9.4 ($9,400,000,000.00)
Chrysler 1980 3.9 ($3,900,000,000.00)
Continental Illinois National
Bank and Trust Company 1984 9.5 ($9,500,000,000.00)
Savings & Loan 1989 293.8 ($293,800,000,000.00)
Airline Industry 2001 18.6 ($18,600,000,000.00)
Total bailout in 2008 dollars
of the 38 years prior to this year 347.5 ($347,500,000,000.00)
Bear Stearns 2008 30.0 ($30,000,000,000.00)
Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac 2008 200.0 ($200,000,000,000.00)
American International
Group (A.I.G.) 2008 85.0 ($85,000,000,000.00)
Troubled Asset
Relief Program 2008 700.0 ($700,000,000,000.00)
Total bailouts just for this year
(2008) so far in 2008 dollars 1,015.0 ($1,015,000,000,000.00)
This is $1.015 Tillion so far ….2.92 X the total of entire last 38 years prior.
and doesn’t include the costs of the Economic Stimulus
Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 …. has cost $152 billion for 2008
with an additional $124 billion to be spent over the next 10 years.
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The U.S. gross public debt increased from $22.5 billion in 1933 to $40.44 billion in 1939.
($1.00 in 1939 had about the same buying power as $15.08 in 2008.)
Increase in debt in Increase in debt
1939 dollars in 2008 dollars
Dedt increase of entire
Great Depression 1933-1939: $16,021,395,348.84 $241,556,866,445.19
Current bailouts debt
increase Mar-Sept 2008: $67,320,447,223.80 $1,015,000,000,000.00
The current bailouts are costing 420.19% more than the entire Great depression cost in debt.
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Obama: Sex Education for Kindergartners (The real story)
While a member of the Illinois state legislature, Barack Obama voted YES on SB99, the so-called “comprehensive sex education” act sponsored by planned Parenthood and the ACLU. The act includes a provision for sex education for kindergarten children. It passed March 6th, 2003.
… The Obama campaign and some commentators are trying to spin the sex education bill as a device to prevent sexual predators, slaming am ad run by McCain pointing out Obama supporting the bad bill. Sorry folks, the part of the bill Obama refers to is only one part of the bill, SB99
SB99 foundation is based on the Guidlines for Comprehensive Sexuality Education K-12
http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf
Here is a QUOTE from those guidlines, starting with Page 25.
Developmental Messages:
Level 1 (ages 5-8)
• Each body part has a correct name and a specific function.
• A person’s genitals, reproductive organs, and genes determine whether the person is male or female.
• A boy/man has nipples, a penis, a scrotum, and testicles.
• A girl/woman has breasts, nipples, a vulva, a clitoris, a vagina, a uterus, and ovaries.
• Some sexual or reproductive organs, such as penises and vulvas, are external or on the outside of
the body while others, such as ovaries and testicles, are internal or inside the body.
• Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.
(Page 26) LEVEL 1 (age 5-8)
• Men and women have reproductive organs that enable them to have a child.
• Men and women have specific cells in their bodies (sperm cells and egg cells) that enable them to reproduce.
• Reproduction requires that a sperm and egg join.
• Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
Unquote:
Still think it was strictly about preventing sexual predators? Obama is a liar and the McCain ad got this one right!
28 Caracal Carrie on 09.25.08 at 9:09 pm I always wondered if he was on the level. I guess he just ran out of crap to tell us..
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He should have taken lessons from Walking Eagle…
he never runs out of ‘cwap
Photo above talking heads.
Nancy… Oh look President Bush, baby Obama spoke his first words at the big people’s table… He said “present”
Did anyone else notice that Obama’s ad on CNN has him with more gray hair than usual? Is this to make him appear wise?
DWP,
Thank you for making me laugh with that graphic you’ve made, I need.
#32 nhforhillary on 09.25.08 at 9:12 pm
WTH?? Are you kidding me??
There is NO WAY that I would have wanted my 5 – 8 yr. old daughter being taught this from her TEACHER!!
36 Asian4Hillary
My pleasure. And thank you to those who’ve commented on it.
I have a question for all the puma’s that like to pounce on obot’s on other blogs. Have you noticed fewer obot’s on those blogs? Could it be they don’t have their new talking points?
Goofsdad mentioned this to me because he hasn’t had as many obot’s to play with.
How many here have lost a few % from their investment? Please raise your hand or your feet.
40 Asian4Hillary
Paw up if you include 401K’s.
32 nhforhillary on 09.25.08 at 9:12 pm
Obama: Sex Education for Kindergartners
(The real story)
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Thank you for posting that outline and if all of that is true then his proposal is outrageous.
I believe that that type of education and explanation belongs in the hands of the parents.
My 401k is a 100% fixed account with a guaranteed return, so I’m doing quite nicely, thank you. No worries.
I’m still retired with no intentions of ever going back to the rat race and bosses.
obots are sending this around to influence the poll…
one, two… you know what to do:
“I know — it’s only a poll. But it will be reported on PBS, picked up by mainstream media and can influence undecided voters in swing states.
Please do two things — takes 20 seconds.
1) Here is the direct link, or…paste it into your browser and vote yourself.
Here’s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html“
40 Asian4Hillary
How many here have lost a few % from their investment? Please raise your hand or your feet.
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Oh yeaahhh. :::::stretching hands waaaay up::::::
I was saying earlier that if I take a late retirement and an early death, I should be okay.
40 Asian4Hillary on 09.25.08 at 9:19 pm How many here have lost a few % from their investment? Please raise your hand or your feet.
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Count me for two paws!
I doubt if there are very many who have not felt the effect in one way or another.
It will effect everyone’s 401′s and other pension plans, plus all those who have stocks and bank shares etc…
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IDEAS for DEAFEATING BO
► – Contact LOCAL media (TV, RADIO, NEWSPAPERS), esp. in key SWING STATES, to encourage coverage of whatever can help our cause. –> Send them good info, links, & news to report ––> ALSO, contact NATIONAL media, esp. those pundits & reporters NOT in the tank for BO who are more open to report our views …–> Pass along any good anti-BO &/or PUMA-related info or news
–> There are media-contact addresses in The Action Center:
–> AND… see DPW’s note below in response to this post:
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DancesWithPumas WROTE:
The regional moderators will be sending Pumas lists of electronic and news media contacts, to be sent to Pumas in all the states we have listed in the Media Contacts section of the Action Center, so that residents, and others, can blitz media with letters.
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we didn’t lose any savings, because we dont have any.
But Lehman was one of the first dude’s biggest clients (small fry for them, big fry for him).
So, one paw up here.
dwp, dang! those Puma PAC regional moderators are really makin it happen!
Hello,
I was reading blogs about poll numbers and was catching up on what people have been saying about whether this bailout helps BO or McCain. Last I read the bailout still wasn’t hammered out. I’m still waiting to see what’s done. My impression is that that’s the case with most people. Early voting may start in a few weeks in some states, but the next 2-3 weeks will be pretty important. I don’t fully know what’s happening with the economy yet and if the bailout happens and the market turns around, then that’s a different story than the one we’ve had in the past few days. People may be nervous now, but who knows in a few weeks.
Personally, I see no leadership on BO’s part (as previous blog rolls pointed out) and that scares me. Who will really be making decisions if BO wins? I don’t think it will be Joe Biden. He can’t figure out how to keep his foot out of his mouth out on the campaign trail. What about Nancy Pelosi? Yeah, the “best” idea she’s had recently was being part of the group that decided that not having a roll call vote at the Democratic Convention was a “good thing.” Who is gong to play Dick Cheney’s part in the BO presidency? If the world markets don’t have any confidence in U.S. leaders that will be reflected after the elections (in the markets). In addition, I imagine BO will need a couple of years to figure things out as president and then the second half of his presidency will be spent running for reelection. This is the part that the bots don’t want to admit also scares them. They’d rather ease their anxiety by lashing out and calling us racists. Is BO ready to be president from day 1? I don’t think so. I’m sorry, but his resume is paper thin. Sorry bots, the emperor has no clothes. I’m not going to ignore my anxiety and vote against my better instincts.
O.K., I’ll go back to lurking and feeling anxious about BO as prez. -Lara08
Thanks Landi,
There are media-contact addresses in The Action Center:
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We have lists of TV stations and local/state newspapers listed by state in the Media Contacts section of the Action Center. There are also sample letters upon which you can base your letters, if you so choose.
http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
Phil berg is on now
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mommaEradioRebels/2008/09/26/Momma-E-and-the-Radio-Rebels
49 murphy on 09.25.08 at 9:33 pm dwp, dang! those Puma PAC regional moderators are really makin it happen!
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Yup! We’re very lucky to have moderators with boundless energy! Especially this weekend when the individual state lists go out.
DWP, TerryDo, goofsmom
You’re not alone. I lost quite a bit. I cried the whole afternoon when my broker called. I told him to let it ride. I’ll stay, the market will recover.
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*** EASY *** ACTION * PROJECT ***
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► CREATE YOUR OWN ANTI-BO VIRAL-EMAIL
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• Gather, into a blank email, some good talking points (from the Action Center, etc)… any good, persuasive facts and points (NOT falsehoods/smears).
Lynette Long’s “14 Reasons…” (see below) makes a great Viral Email
• Title your email “20 Reasons Why You Should Not Vote For Obama”… OR… “The Obama The Media Does Not Want You To Know About”… OR… ???
• At the bottom, type, “Forward this email to as many people as possible”
• Then Send it off to many people at once!
• If you have received anti-McCain/Palin mass-sent ‘Viral-Emails’ (like I have), you can take advantage of all the addresses grouped in the email’s “From” field.
Just hit “Reply All” (or “Reply to Everyone”) in the email, delete the Email’s text, paste the Viral Email you created, and send it off to everyone!
• You can also mass-forward any good articles or even good posts you see here or elsewhere (give credit).
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–> Lynette Long’s “14 Reasons I Will Not Vote For Obama” makes a good Viral Email (see my other post).
http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/09/principle-over.html
–> For good talking points and other action ideas, see the Action Center:
http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html
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–> If you find anything good for a Viral Email in the Web or come up with a good one yourself, please post it on our blogs!
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A GOOD VIRAL-EMAIL TEMPLATE:
The following is a good one for a Viral Email. Just copy and paste it into a blank email and send it off to everyone (it’s especially good for undecided Dems… esp those who voted for Hillary).
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14 Reasons I Will Not Vote For Obama; My Party’s Nominee
► The Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee has never been a woman. How can I support a party that is primarily composed on women but run by men?
► Obama sat for 20 years inside Trinity United Church of Christ which exposes Black Liberation Theology and listened to Rev. Wright his mentor trash America and white Americans. How can I support a candidate that goes to a church that preaches hatred in any form?
► Obama casts himself as a candidate of change but he is an old Chicago-style politician. He won his first State Senate race by eliminating all other candidates on technicalities and his U.S. Senate race by opening the sealed divorce file of his opponent and forcing his opponent to withdraw. How can I vote for a candidate who is not who is says he is?
► The Democratic Party was silent to the rampant sexism that occurred during the primary process. How can I support a party that did not acknowledge the rampant sexism in the campaign and consequently ignored me as a woman?
► Obama did not stand up for Senator Clinton when Rev. Wright and Father Pflaeger trashed her from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ. When Ludacris called Hillary an irrelevant bitch, Obama was mute. How can I support a nominee, without the courage to stand up against blatant racism and sexism?
► Nancy Pelosi, in conjunction with other Democratic leaders, paid off superdelegates to get them to vote for Obama. How can I support a party that pre-selected its nominee?
► Obama only lost one out of fourteen caucuses. Obama lost twenty-one out of thirty-eight primaries. This discrepancy is due to voter fraud, voter intimidation, busing, and voter suppression in the caucuses. How can I support an illegal nominee, a nominee who will use any means necessary to win?
► Democratic insiders knew about the caucus fraud and voter fraud during the primary process. How can I support a party that turned a blind eye to the blatant irregularities during the primary process?
► Obama is inexperienced. He has served less than one term in the United States Senate of which he has spent most the time campaigning. How can I support a candidate that does not have the experience to lead this country?
► Obama has numerous questionable associations. There is an old expression, “By his friends, shall ye know him.” How can I vote for someone I don’t trust?
► Obama ignored the will of 18 million voters did not choose Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate. How can I support a nominee who brushed aside the will of 18 million voters?
► The Democratic Party which is composed of 60% women has not put a woman on the Democratic Ticket for 24 years. How can I support a party that takes the votes of the women of the party for granted?
► Barack Obama had a sham of a roll call at the Democratic National Convention in Denver and strong armed delegates to cast their votes for him. Clinton Delegates, were shouted down, threatened with their jobs, and replaced. How can I support a nominee who does not support democracy?
► How can I vote for a candidate I don’t trust, whose character is questionable, who I believe obtained the nomination illegally, who ignored the blatant sexism leveled a Senator Clinton and Governor Palin, and is too inexperienced to do the job? I can’t.
VOTE DEMOCRATIC IN 2008? NEVER!
By Lynette Long
From: http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/09/principle-over.html
* Please forward this email to all the Democrats you know!!!
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#56 LandiPUMA
Done!
Of course I have lost money on investments too but here is the thing, everyone had to know this was coming. I live in a 4 bedroom 1948 brick rambler in North Seattle my furnace is original to the house my roof is old. Last year Zillow.com said my house was worth $850,000. Give me a break! When an average salary in my neighborhood is around $75,000. who could afford to buy a house? It was obvious this market could not continue, now Zillow says my house is worth $627,000 and I doubt that. But I have not lost money because I paid $144,000. for the house, I like it here and I don’t want to move. If I had sold high I would have had to buy high to get a place to live. This is not a disaster it is just a recalibration and anyone who is in the finance business could see it coming. No, this is a fiasco designed to screw The People. It is no coincidence that this situation that has been brewing for years came to a head before the election and the week before Congress was set to get out of town until next year. This was planned.
Is that a PUMA on his bib ?
#58 Seattlegirl, who do you think planned this and why? People may have discussed this already, but I’ve been away. Thanks.
omg this made me laugh so hard.
56 LandiPUMA
Added your viral email template to the Prowls section.
There’s also a flyer for it… in Flyers, Cash,etc.
59 CTKEY
Dang! What a good idea! Next time…
Even more new content!
http://puma-facts.com/Albuquerque.aspx
#34 TerryDo
LOL.
Baby Obamas first words. “Present”.
Thats good.
64 Caracal Carrie
I placed the link to your site in the Research section of our Action Center… should it be anywhere else?
what happend to site? It lloks different.
All the pictures are hysterical,how do y’all get them?
Conflucian blog talk radio begins at 6…
Heidi’s going to bo on… and then dakinikat who is either an economist or an accountant (so sorry… do not recall now) and I guess she’s going to explain what;s going on and stuff.
67 bellecat
Hit refresh and see if that changes anything.
DWP
it should be everywhere!! LOL
I originally started on the site to give people one link to send for letters and to refer people to for information on why NObama.
is the puma-facts.com different from us the PAC?
54 Asian4Hillary on 09.25.08 at 9:38 pm DWP, TerryDo, goofsmom
You’re not alone. I lost quite a bit. I cried the whole afternoon when my broker called. I told him to let it ride. I’ll stay, the market will recover.
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We have very little choice but to let it ride, I suppose we can sell some towards the end of the year, in order to get a tax loss break.
I got a chukkle out of DWP’s comment “I was saying earlier that if I take a late retirement and an early death, I should be okay.”
#67 bellecat
All the pictures are hysterical,how do y’all get them?
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We make some of them in the backroom.
73 DancesWithPumas on 09.25.08 at 9:59 pm #67 bellecat
All the pictures are hysterical,how do y’all get them?
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We make some of them in the backroom.
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Don’t let Dances fool you Bellecat, she is the genius behind most of them!
#52 vadaryl was it good we had to go to the store so I missed it , if your on let me know what he said otherwise I’m heading to bed shortly gotta get up at 5 and haven’t been sleeping good lately.
#39 wrote: “Have you noticed fewer obot’s on those blogs? ”
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Sorry, but I just was on the McCain Blog and the obots are there in full force going nuts. Raving over and over how much of a coward McCain is and how he is afraid of this debate; and how terrible Palin was on her interviews.
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I can’t, for the life of me, understand why anyone would follow this man!! If Obama had voted FOR the bill McCain co-sponsored in 2005, instead of against it, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in now. Good Judgement? McCain1, Obama 0. What about seeing how much more important settling this mess is than a debate showing Leadership? McCain1, Obama 0.
You have to read this Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Pundits
Would give you an idea what would be the outcome of general election.
70 Caracal Carrie
No, I mean, realistically.
I though you started it as a repository for factual information? I don’t understand what “to give people one link to send for letters” means?
#58 Seattlegirl,
Hmm, that’s a very provocative but insightful comment.
Bailout mess = blame Bush = must blame McCain & Repubs. = Ohopey Odopey Ochangey.
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#58 Seattlegirl on 09.25.08 at 9:44 pm
It is no coincidence that this situation that has been brewing for years came to a head before the election and the week before Congress was set to get out of town until next year. This was planned.
#72 TerryDo
If you can let it ride for two years, your recovery is much better.
This “financial crisis” was planned by the corporations who own our pathetic government representatives. All this talk about wondering IF there is going to be a bill to bailout Wall Street. Yes there will definitely be a bill to bail out Wall Street the only question is how bad will we The People get screwed in the process. The original proposal called for no oversight, did not restrict the salary of Executives who caused this mess, called for the Gov to purchase these “assests” at about 3 times what they are worth on the open market, did not give The People any property to hopefully sell in the future to try to recoup our losses and they (Corporate America) really thought they could shove it up our a$$es with the help of Congress. I say let them hang and twist in the wind. If the government is worried legitimate businesses in other sectors can’t borrow enough money to keep their businesses going then the gov should loan money directly to these businesses IF their books are in shape.
I say if there is any deal it should favor The People and if Wall Street doesn’t like it then they can go borrow money somewhere else.
Heidi Li raised enough money to run their first ad.
Oh wait SM77 is interrupting and stepping on Heidi’s lines again. ugh
76 KarenWI how do you get on there, I tell you i normal don’t have much trouble but i can’t seem to find my way around there at all. I go to McCain and i signed up and I get emails and that is about it.
Did I understand the things that happened today? Did John McCain Just Say No Deal to Bush who was selling us out? While Obama talked about debates?
I think Fox News’ ratings are up because people do not believe the ABC/CNN/CNBC because they have mislead them so much about BO. I think Fox is trying very hard to keep their advantage by trying to be more “fair and balanced”. So we are seeing more of Barky there. He looks stupid. He sounds so stupid about his debate and lame with his excuses. He just cannot handle the job.
DWP
Well That is why I am soo picky about using only facts. Say if I send an email to all of my friends telling them to wake up. I can put a link to the web site in it so they can see alll of the information there is out there, and none of it can be discounted out of hand because of the sources.
I mean people can use it for research or however, but I personally am using it so people I refer can go to one web site and see facts.
85 Caracal Carrie
Oh, okay. Now I get it. I think we were saying teh same thing in different languages,
From O-ssiahs latest email beg/bitch:
“Barack is moving ahead with plans for Friday’s debate. The election is less than 40 days away, and the American people deserve to hear directly from the candidates about how they intend to lead our country.
Many voters will be learning about Barack and his vision for change for the first time, and this is a crucial opportunity to talk to potential supporters.”
Okay so what cave or deserted island have these “many voters” been living in for the last 2 years? Are they talking about Gilligan and Mary Ann and the rest of the occupants of the “Minnow”?….LOL…LOL
#83 the emails aren’t the blog. The blog is at:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Blog/
Just like here you find the newest thread and click on “comments” and there you are!
85 Caracal Carrie
So the Research and Media Articles sections would be good.
#44 DancesWithPumas on 09.25.08 at 9:27 pm obots are sending this around to influence the poll…
one, two… you know what to do:
…….Please do two things — takes 20 seconds.
1) Here is the direct link, or…paste it into your browser and vote yourself.
Here’s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html“
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And this poll on Palin is still 49%-49% like has been all day long every time I voted.
#88 Oh I know that I am saying that is about all I’ve been able to do is sign up and now I get emails I don’t know where the blogs are. lol
90 GBPuma
Okay… sorta down party lines
DWP
I was even arguing on myspace to my fruity friend about NOBO the other day. Well she was just wrong wrong wrong…So I told her..Go read Puma-facts.com and get back with me! So she did!
DWP Yup good place!
ACORN TO GET 20% OF THE PLANNED BAILOUT. OMG! OMG! Phil Graham just said this on Greta’s show.
This is horrendous!!
Just listening to CNN, believe it or not it seems (getting though the hype of the liberal media) that the reason the economy meeting broke down was because House Republican’s wanted to negotiate that the debt was not dumped on the shoulders of the public, but the private sector would carry some of the burden. The Democrats wanted to ‘end’ the deal before McCain got there and push it though putting all the burden on the public!
Assh@les doing it to the public again and trying to put a spin on it that John McCain ruined everything. Now this I am getting from CNN! (At least Anderson Cooper is telling it this way…a little more spin than I stated it)
#95 diva2
Well doesnt that just flippen figure
#95 diva,
OMG, are you sure he said that? … I walked out of the room for 3 min. so I must have missed that.
WHY??
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#95 diva2 on 09.25.08 at 10:14 pm
ACORN TO GET 20% OF THE PLANNED BAILOUT. OMG! OMG! Phil Graham just said this on Greta’s show.
This is horrendous!!
This can’t happen! This is why the House didn’t want the bill. Call! Call! Call! Someone! Who! Does anyone have those phone #’s to the White House??
FDIC: WaMu the ‘Largest Bank Failure Ever’
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5889501&page=1
Your money is okay, just bought out by Chase.
#98 MICK
Yes! Yes! They are supposedly to get the money to help with the housing stuff, I think. Going back on T to get exact wording.
Senator Clinton backing Senator McCain – out loud? Greta???? What the………….?
Greta just announced another major Clinton supporter is now backing McCain! On Fox after the commercials
#17 & 32 NH4hil-Thanks for posting these. I don’t have time to put in the great work people on this site post. I’ve been fuming at the righteous attitude of BO, Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank et al. when they have practically caused the problem with their irresponsible actions and inactions. The party is full of fools, it’s not just BO. I’m shocked that I never realized what they were all like. Imagine, I was willing to see BO as Hillary’s VP! Then I started looking at him closer (when I saw the arrogance) and found the BACKGROUND. I’m a Democrat (Bill’s amazing), but I will not vote for these people! Thanks again!
#95 diva2 on 09.25.08 at 10:14 pm
ACORN TO GET 20% OF THE PLANNED BAILOUT. OMG! OMG! Phil Graham just said this on Greta’s show.
This is horrendous!!
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What? The Republicans in the House what to give 20% to Acorn? That doesn’t make sense.
I would have sworn she said Sen Clinton? Guess I was dreaming!!
104 BillieJo
No the House Republicans don’t want to. They presented their own Ideas and there was a huge fight and now they are all meeting again.
80 Asian4Hillary on 09.25.08 at 10:03 pm #72 TerryDo
If you can let it ride for two years, your recovery is much better.
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Thanks Asian4Hillary, I usually do not sell in a panic and understand the flux of the marketplace. I do not need access my account right now, but on paper it looks BAD!
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just on fox, Sen Lindsey Graham said that the reason the bil didn’t go through was that ACORN was to get 20% of the money that should go to retire the debt.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDIN @#$%$#@
dwp #53 and ALL
Puma PAC’s Political Director and her staff of dozens will be coordinating our release of our Puma PAC Slate for Each and Every State with the moderators’ roll-out of the 50 State Media Contact Lists this weekend.
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Major supporter is Miguel Lausell
Mr. Lausell is a prominent Hispanic HIllary backer, he says he wants someone with experience.
Not Hillay
You are dreaming…she will have
to support McCain in the voting booth.
Miguel Lausell – Latino vote
I love Miguel speaking out against Obama…
111 goofsmom on 09.25.08 at 10:24 pm Major supporter is Miguel Lausell
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Who is he?
Miguel Lausell Hispanic Democrat and former Hillary supporter, has come out in favor of McCain…
113 BillieJo
I dont know who he is but I like him!
((((((Miguel Lausell)))))) LOL at least from 7 pumas right now…
#109 Is that 20% of the total 700 billion?
I could kiss Miguel. Everything he says is true..
He is upset that “O” didn’t pick Hillary and that lots of hispanics feel the same way he does
8% of latinos not voting for obie, until today …. now more will jump ship.
What? What? What???? I’m on the phone with a friend in VA checking on her after the storm there… what happened that I missed on Greta??????????????????
He does not even live in the states and can not vote.
It sucks Miguel cant vote though!
go to Greta and vote! I’m betting Bill is voting McCain.
But still as a voice and a fund raiser…powerful…He made great points! Honorary Puma
Miguel should be an honorary PUMA. Tell ‘em!
Greta wire poll
Who do you think former President Clinton will vote for in Nov.
a) O
b) Mac
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
here is a article on Miguel read it going for McCain (short)
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=2086
#103 goofsmom
Miguel Lausell= Hero!
#132 Billie Jo… 8% of latinos not voting for BO- but didn’t Gore and Kerry get 70%+ of latinos? So it is all that unusual for 8% or more to not be voting for BO? I guess I’m confused..
Greta just showed how McCain and the Big Dog supported each other today and how they were real friends. She has a new question on her blog….
Who do you think President Clinton will vote for in November?
Oh Greta, we all know the Big Dog will vote for his friend John.
Thank you for voting!
Barack Obama 7% (319 votes)
John McCain 91% (4041 votes)
Or just vote present 2% (72 votes)
Phil Grammm said 20% of money was going to ACORN, a housing organization that is an absolute ill-run enterprise. They are taking money from debt retirement to put into a housing organization that doesn’t work. Was on Greta about 7:09-7:10pst.
No wonder nobo looked so pissed off at the meeting. This makes me sick to my stomach.
Pumas we need to contact Mr Miguel Lausell to help us convince more latino’s to come on board to the McCain side. Is there a way to get a video of Mr Lausell and circulate it around? He can contact many people and have them talk to Latino’s….
Puma PAC’s Political Director…
Do we have a name for PPPD?
Initials DM? G? MP?
jesus, that geminian curiousity is rearing up
134 slyt2
Wow, go puma’s there were only 160 votes when I went to gretawire
#132 KarenWI on 09.25.08 at 10:30 pm
#132 Billie Jo… 8% of latinos not voting for BO- but didn’t Gore and Kerry get 70%+ of latinos? So it is all that unusual for 8% or more to not be voting for BO? I guess I’m confused..
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Saying most Democratic Latinos voted for Hillary, and now with the Titanic going down…many more will follow Miguel Lausell.
#120 Lara 08 See my post #135. That is all he said.
132 KarenWI on 09.25.08 at 10:30 pm #132 Billie Jo… 8% of latinos not voting for BO- but didn’t Gore and Kerry get 70%+ of latinos? So it is all that unusual for 8% or more to not be voting for BO? I guess I’m confused..
Mr. Lusell believes that Obama would do nothing (nada) for the Hispanics and he was telling other Hispanics what is in his heart…
# 105 Billie Joe check out http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14552 The following is a statement by Newt Gingrich from that site.
“MR. GINGRICH: Well, the last time we were promised they were going to save us, it was $300 billion; it was a housing bill. And what liberal Democrats in Congress did, for example, was add $500 million a year for a left-wing activist group called Acorn. Now, I can’t imagine why we’d want the taxpayer to give $500 million a year to a left-wing activist group, but it’s in the bill which the Bush administration signed and that was only back in July and that was going to solve everything. That was $300 billion ago.”
If the Reps allow for all that $$$ to go to one organization (that is clearly backing BO) they are major fools and are in the game for BO. I can’t believe the Dems would have the gall to try to pull that ACORN-backing stunt right now! Don’t they know millions of people are watching?!
REPOST
Go vote Puma’s
Greta wire poll
Who do you think former President Clinton will vote for in Nov.
a) O
b) Mac
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
All riiight! Thanks for the explanations…. So this is a huge endorsement for Mac, right? You think that this endorsement will take a lot of latinos along with him? I sure hope so! A president Obama…. well… the more I see him in action (like about this economy vs debate situation), the more scared I am to have him in charge. McCain is a leader. I am beginning to think that Obama doesn’t even know how to be a good follower….
Actually, his endorsement is old news – he did that a wk ago.
#143 Lara 08
ACORN is an affiliate of George Soros who basically owns nobo and the Dems.
Some good news from phil berg, the judge asked him to respond to the motion to dismiss in 5 days. He hopes to have done by Monday and see what happens next.
#117 1gypsy4mc on 09.25.08 at 10:26 pm
113 BillieJo
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Hey, I can’t tell you how many times I have fallen for any positive rumor that helps Hillay.
So, according to FOX, no deal tonight and everyone went home that was in that special small mtg. Wonder what/where McCain and BO are, since neither one of them were invited to this mtg.
#148 vadaryl on 09.25.08 at 10:40 pm
Some good news from phil berg, the judge asked him to respond to the motion to dismiss in 5 days. He hopes to have done by Monday and see what happens next.
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Thanks for that, no reason to drag his feet on this one.
OK Im off to bed!
Nite Pumas
Nite nite Caracal Carrie
148 vadaryl on 09.25.08 at 10:40 pm Some good news from phil berg, the judge asked him to respond to the motion to dismiss in 5 days. He hopes to have done by Monday and see what happens next.
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Why is that good news?
Comment:
Re: “Go vote Puma’s
Greta wire poll
Who do you think former President Clinton will vote for in Nov.
a) O
b) Mac
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/”
Why would I want to vote about that and just give FOX news an excuse to slam the Clinton’s again?
HELL NO.
Honestly I sometimes wonder if people really think these things through.
125 Caracal Carrie
What was the name of your website again?
lol just kidding!
# 144
Thank you for voting!
Barack Obama 25% (994 votes)
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It was two of them not just Lusell, Miguel D. Lausell, Former Senior Political Adviser to Hillary Clinton, and Clinton Delegate-at-Large Luchy Secaira today announced their support of the McCain-Palin ticket.
Both are active Democratic political organizers in the Latino community.
#147 Yes, that’s what I mean. ACORN is in the tank for BO. I wasn’t aware of the Soros connection.
EVERYONE: Before the bailout, we all know Obimbo;s
TAX Hikes were off the wall and out the park…Just how is Obimbo’s so called change plan going to be paid for now? His entire program, prior to the taxpayer burden as a result of the bailout, is in total question and even more unrealistic then it already was..I know it is hard to imagine anything more unrealistic regarding Obingo than anything already out of his brain, but really…
think about this.Once we get the details of this plan, we need to Prowl regarding its effects on Obimbo and his tax hicks on everything and we need to make sure everyone we can thinks about this.
Today’s Prowl:
I’m happy to report Hillary’s fax number was busy but I finally got through.
Yes indeed I believe many PUMA’s were busy on their Prowls today!! ;D
GEORGE SOROS and his companies.
This is a must read. Also, go to the Affiliations page listed on the right-hand side. You will understand why all the women’s orgs and others went to nobo.
http://discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=97
psssttt
http://puma-facts.com
ssshhhh
#155 hillstheone
I don’t think it’s to slam the Big Dog, Greta showed that McCain and Bill are good friends and talk well of eachother
OK I am outt here for tonight, bye everyone.
ACORN is a radical group more known for its involvement in voter fraud. The Obama connection:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4975
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/22/acorn-watch-pt-ii-obama-hid-800000-payment-to-acorn-through-citizen-services-inc/
Just wanted to drop in to say hello – nothing profound to add- still trying to understand the principles before policy and principles before personality distinction. All my friends who are D’s cannot believe that I would actually vote for McCain and without a doubt, their single biggest fear is McCain’s health and age and that he would die in the White House leaving us with that crazy lady from Alaska. What would your response be?
latinos and asians are not as sophisticated in american politics as aa’s and whites are…
up to recent times american society has always seen itself of in terms of a white-black paradigm ..
but now latinos and asians are in a learning curve and learning the ropes pretty darn fast..
Obama is like the chastened child, finally allowed to sit at the grown ups table. Not fit to lead. Is this a joke?
Fox News Poll:
All that will be accomplished is:
* Fox news still thinks we believe they report accurately even though they reported last night the main reason we won’t vote for Obama is because we’re racists
* Fox news will now have another tool in their toolbox to say “Looky here, those horrible Clintons, people believe they are gonna vote McCain.”
Voted at gretawire,
Obama-29%=1370
McCain-71%=3322
Also sent Fox news,greta, info on ACORN and info on JOHN FUND’S BOOK STEALING ELECTIONS.
Drudge Report
I did post on the Drudge Report today about Obama’s Caucus Fraud. Not that it’ll do any good, just FYI.
OK, see everyone tomorrow.
110 murphy on 09.25.08 at 10:24 pm dwp #53 and ALL
Puma PAC’s Political Director and her staff of dozens will be coordinating our release of our Puma PAC Slate for Each and Every State with the moderators’ roll-out of the 50 State Media Contact Lists this weekend.
It is a WELL-oiled machine, firing on all cylinders, that we operate here at Puma PAC.
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AND … the coordination of the Puma California -Nevada doorknocking /flyer flying blitz on all four weekends in October.
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#133BillieJoe: Rightnow 70% of the people who have taken the Greta poll agree…only 29% say Obimbo..about 4,500 votes so far.
#168 I wouldn’t use the word “sophisticated.” I would use a less positive term.
diva2 on 09.25.08 at 10:32 pm Phil Grammm said 20% of money was going to ACORN, a housing organization that is an absolute ill-run enterprise. They are taking money from debt retirement to put into a housing organization that doesn’t work. Was on Greta about 7:09-7:10pst.
No wonder nobo looked so pissed off at the meeting. This makes me sick to my stomach.
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I was wondering if I heard that right. I heard Lindsey Graham on Greta say that 20% of the bailout was going to ACORN?????????????????????????????
They already had $500 million snuck in to the $300 billion housing bill. I for one was unaware of that until now. Now they are talking about another $150 billion???
ACORN is an organization that should be prosecuted under our RICO laws as a criminal enterprise. Somewhere earlier today someone posted a link to all of the voter fraud ACORN was involved in over the last several years.
163 Caracal Carrie
psssttt
http://puma-facts.com
ssshhhh
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HUH? WHAT DID YOU SAY????????
Guess I should leave also. I have last minute packing to do. Will be out of country for 3 wks, probably during the most exciting time in history. Will be stuck with CNN, and limited comp use. It could be worse though, I could be stuck with only MSNBC.
So, while I am laying in the white sands, and enjoying the sky blue clear water and my drinks – I leave it to y’all to continue the battle to defeat BO.
Night all. I would suggest a congress/ACORN prowl for tomorrow. We should make noise about it to the media and everyone else. Best, Lara08
#176 Grizzly
Phil G. was talking about the bailout plan and said 20% of the money was going to ACORN. Wrote it down.
Grizzly
By the way, ACORN had some internal people embezzle over a $1,000,000.00 a few years ago and the Board of Directors weren’t told about it and the person(s) kept working for the company. Think it was some bigwig’s brother or something and they allowed him to stay. I just read about it. I hae my filing set up kinda screwy right now. If I find the info, I will post it
If you do a search on ACORN you will get more info than you want.
I
Grizzly
By the way, ACORN had some internal people embezzle over a $1,000,000.00 a few years ago and the Board of Directors weren’t told about it and the person(s) kept working for the company. Think it was some bigwig’s brother or something and they allowed him to stay. I just read about it. I hae my filing set up kinda screwy right now. If I find the info, I will post it
If you do a search on ACORN you will get more info than you want.
I
On Greta – electoral map – Florida no longer red… CRAP.
Goofsmom #129 — I voted.
LOVE it!! 69% or so say McCain!!
Can you believe that Bill Clinton is such a political master that he can actually campaign for BOTH candidates at the SAME time and get away with it??
have I mentioned today that I love that guy?
love love love him!
#170hillsthe one: What difference does that make one way or the other? Both Clintons are campaigning for Obimbo…to me, that is nothing I am happy about. And frankly, did anybody listen to Hillary regarding the bailout? She has been marginalized by the usurped Democratic party . Both have except as supporters of Obimbo. Neither Fox nor any other group could say anything or do anything that removes that reality.
I am not responsible for protecting these two seasoned politicians. I am responsible for protecting myself, and my country from those who seek to take it down on the backs of their radical, socialist tenets.
#178 Middle age female
where are you going? for vacation?
Grizzly
Darn, must have Phil and Lindsay confused. Will go replay it so I get the name straight. Sorry
#184 murphy
LOVE it!! 69% or so say McCain!!
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The bots must be out. It’s gone down from 92%
Obama tries to get ads pulled again.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-tries-to-get-ads-pulled-again
Grizzly,
I must have accidently erased the earlier comments. I know it was recording. I will find and correct.
I noticed on myspace that they have a new tab for Election 08. When you hit the button it connects you to MSNBC coverage of the election! Who wants that? I send an email to Myspace to complain. Of course MSNBC is in the tank for Obama.
188 jody in florida,
whats going on with that poll?
When I voted it said 71% McCain 21% Obama
shouldnt mccain have a good lead in florida by now?
#192 tillerylakelady
It finished at 66% McCain. Damn bots!
Florida is back in the toss up column.
it floats in and out.
#193 osaka puma
shouldnt mccain have a good lead in florida by now?
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I thought he did. The electoral map I just saw showed Florida yellow. That’s scary.
noble.. goddamn i cant believe the luck obama has..its weird he should be way ahead in florida..
this all doesnt feel good to me
dwp #137,
the PPPD is DM with help from ST.
the staff of 12 includes:
AH
G
A
D
KiyH
D
M
S
MPM
RD
HL
TT
GOHL
MJ
BJ
A
PPV
and a couple other letters in the alphabet.
noble.. goddamn i cant believe the luck obama has..its weird mccain should be way ahead in florida..
this doesnt feel good to me
Diva2 and Grizzly,
It was Senator Lindsey Graham(R)
Florida has been solid red for weeks. This is not good. Florida is the land of the hanging chads. I can barely remember the last time my vote counted.
im starting to get nervous
199 murphy
PPPDDMABCs
got it. thx
Noblecascade: Did you see my apology to you on a former thread? Did you accept it? I hope so.
#200 osaka puma
it is in the toss up for this minute it will float back but….Sarah Silverman made a video asking people to ask their Jewish grandparents that live in Florida to vote for Obama.
Greta’s poll now says bo 19%, McCain 81%
Yes, NOPuma I saw it and was happy to accept.
#135 POST CORRECTION
My post#135 should have said Lindsay Graham NOT PHil Gramm.
Sorry, I just wasn’t paying attention to his name as I was so shocked what he was saying. All other info. on his statements ARE correct.
#143 Lara08 : No, the Dems really thought they could present this financial situation as a crisis and shove through what ever they wanted. You can see how mad they are that it isn’t working when they are interviewed on TV. This is BS that ACORN is getting any money out of this bailout. Of course the idea that we The People are going to get paid back anything is about as likely as Iraq financing their own rebuilding after the war with their oil profits.
#208Noblecascade: Thank you so much. I appreciate your generosity of spirit!
noble cascade ..
sarah silverman looking upwards to God while obama is speaking..
she speaks to God.. “don’t listen to him….he’s crazy”
#207 ipotter
Greta’s poll now says bo 19%, McCain 81%
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McCain back up! Must be past the bots’ bedtimes.
#201 TilleryLakeLady
Thanks, I had to go find a picture of them to see who was who. Just must have missed your post.
Oh dear God. Its flipping Duck Soup.
“The former Goldman Sachs CEO even went down on one knee as if genuflecting, to which Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal.) is said to have joked, “I didn’t know you were Catholic.””
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13918.html
Miguel Lausell, prominent Hillary-backer Latino who defected to McCain, was interviewed by Greta… he talked about the pay inequality (favoring men) in BO’s office… said BO has done NOTHING for Latinos (in Chicago, etc)… said we need someone with experience (McCain) in times of national crisis…
The national polls are showing only 8% of Latinos say they’ll vote for McCain, but who knows. Many may end up not voting at all, since my sense is that many don’t like BO either.
Greta’s poll RE: who Bill Clinton will vote for: 66% said McCain and 34% said BO.
Why it is good news, the judge did not throw out the case and wanted a response in 5 days.
ugh, more bad news Washington Mutual bank has failed.
jp morgan chase buys wamu
I think someone said Chase bought WaMu
will be bought by JP Morgan Chase…the largest failure of a bank in history…CNN
landi ,i hate to admit it but latinos and asians don’t have it together politically..with such weak to non-existent leadership they are wandering in the wilderness
it is like the end of the world.
noblecascae …relax this reset needs to happen
“it is like the end of the world.”
as we know it…
and that could be a good thing
at least for some of us
dances.. i’m afraid..
I am shocked that the bailout included 140M to ACORN. The very company that is trying to fix the election!
I am speechless
OMG. Wamu is my bank. WTF. This crap is outta control.
nothing will change for you sisterluck
My financial investor had me get out of the market last year. My investment money has been sitting in money markets since last October.
i’m overdrawn at WAMU..so what the hell..
226 osaka puma
go sit in Brian of Knoxville’s lap. That’ll snap you out of it.
#215shampoovta: Great image of PreVatican II Mother Superior Pelosi . She missed her vocation…truly…This is Chaucer’s contemporary Prioresse…proud..haughty..and a fantasy in her own mind, a passive aggressive woman who looks as if she always needs a laxative.
dances..
you first.. hehe
#231 osaka puma on 09.25.08 at 11:19 pm
haha, i knew it was all your fault……
#231 Osaka Puma….now THAT is funny
sister… the bailout… im responsible for that..
maybe ill go ask for a bailout
#218 Where did you hear about WAMU?
it’s the end of the world as we know it??
AND I FEEL FINE!
I’m with Murphy
4hill — it’s all over the news.
it is or was all over CNN..I have watched all the Fox shows so I go peek at CNN.
murphy..its not “the end of the world”…
don’t you know were on “the eve of destruction”
Story about fraudulent and duplicate voter applications turning up in Michigan. Who did it? Acorn, of course:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809140383
And please tell me it isn’t true… Acorn gets up to $100 million of that bailout money?
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
the eve of destruction? now what song is that from?
don’t forget folks… an ACORN is still a NUT..
so, what’s the skinny (slang, Mama), is there going to be a debate tomorrow night or what?
My bad goofsdad just corrected me 20% of 700Billion is 140 Billion with a “B”. Unfreaking believeable
“the eve of destruction? now what song is that from?”
It’s from The Eve of Destruction
#241 murphy…THNAKS. I have not been able to get reception for TV and I have been in meetings. Did not read all posts. Sorry. I am a bad Puma!!
Don’t you just love how the dems in congress are all saying “no you two that will have to deal with this later …just stay away we don’t need you here…….well they are half right…..nobama is lead by the nose by them so what they really are saying is McCain go away and let us run this country
Defeating BO in Swing States
The current battleground states (where the race is tight) are:
OH, VA, FL, PA, CO, MI, WI, MN, NV, NM…. Normally “deep blue” NJ is now light blue!
CO is now blue and FL has gone from red to toss-up… Yikes! We gotta hit the media and work harder and in some of these states!
#231 osaka puma
me too. yikes.
“dear senator mcain all us PUMA folks are asking you please don’t take …DE bait..”
We could all go to Belize.
English is the official language for us monolinguists, and teh exchange rate is 2 to 1US… or was.
looks like the big bailout has become a giant dud
I guess the corrupt DNC is making sure ACORN gets the funds they need to commit voter fraud in November.
#239Murphy…Murphy…cool hand luke…ummm..um..
would I love to throw back a few with you at an old neighborhood bar in the Irish Channel.until the Sun comes up and I tried to convince you that Grits are good!
#249 DWP
well, I guess that makes sense.
OH, VA, FL, PA, CO, MI, WI, MN, NV, NM….
we have media contact lists for all of those states
#249 DancesWithPumas
I think your right.
How about R.E.M. – It’s The End Of The World As We Know It .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmxyj6iInMc
#255 DancesWithPumas, Wish they would make some of that bailout money available to PUMAs, so we could bail out of this country. Would love to go to Belize, but don’t make enough. They want foreigners to have at least $2000 mo income for long-term residency, I think.
Why does the sun go on shining
Why does the sea rush to shore
Don’t they know it’s the end of the world
‘Cause you don’t love me any more
Why do the birds go on singing
Why do the stars glow above
Don’t they know it’s the end of the world
It ended when I lost your love
I wake up in the morning and I wonder
Why everything’s the same as it was
I can’t understand, no, I can’t understand
How life goes on the way it does
Why does my heart go on beating
Why do these eyes of mine cry
Don’t they know it’s the end of the world
It ended when you said goodbye
Why does my heart go on beating
Why do these eyes of mine cry
Don’t they know it’s the end of the world
It ended when you said goodbye
Don’t believe her Murphy ….Grits are not good!!! lol
And that being said from a southern girl……guess you know why I live in Canada now lol
262 ipotter
Just bike ride over to Guatmala for a few days and nullify long term residency. They have the best limeade in Belize.
#243 osaka puma on 09.25.08 at 11:25 pm murphy..its not “the end of the world”…
don’t you know were on “the eve of destruction”
Yeh a little Bob Dylan inspiration sounds good about now.
grits…yum! with butter, or some cheese mixed in.
yuck…….(spit….) yuck
#265 DancesWithPumas, That would be the life
leave them out overnight and fix holes in your driveway with them…lol
#254invalid response: Poor grits! Don’t you realize they are the gourmet polenta in disguise…No doubt, one either loves grits or can not even bear to look at them! Funny…you, invalid response!
Check this article: The corrupt Dem leadership attacks McCain and says his presence is disruptive. Uh he’s a senior senator who should vote on this crisis. Pathetic hypocrites. Bozo knows nothing and is pissed he was made to look like the amateur loser he is. Accuses McCain of playing politics on a national crisis. Bozo is mad that he had to quit campaigning and go to DC to pretend he knows something. Good line by McCain campaign…….
“McCain’s been excited and looking forward to these debates. He had actually hoped this would be the 11th debate of the campaign, not the first,” he said, in a reference to Obama’s refusal to join him for joint town hall meetings. “Senator Obama said he would debate anywhere, anyplace, anytime. He refused to do that.”
oops, here’s link:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/25/dems-blast-mccain-after-bailout-negotiations-go-sour/
269 iPotter
you could sell your pots to tourists
I’m from north louisiana…grew up cooking them for other people…..can’t stand them!!!!
DANCES – you have mail at the action center – project is officially finished – thanks for everything that you did on it for us all – now hopefully it will be used.
#270invalidresponse: Oh..you got that right! I only eat them immediately out the pot.immediately off the heat..hate that refried stuff…Now I know where to send the grits left in the pot…how’s ya driveway doin?
heyyyyyyy grits beat asphalt anyday
they don’t bubble when the sun shines…they just get harder….lol
#275 invalidresponse
where in North Louisiana…I’m from Shreveport, moved to DFW in ’92.
have sister that lives in Bossier….I lived in Ruston…
Dear PUMAs,
(I like to put your name in all caps to signify strength, hope that is ok.)
I think it is best to share with you up front that I am a Republican. Always have been, always will be. I was a just a kid during the Reagan years and I guess it stuck.
That said, I had many people ask me during the primary season if I had switched to the Democratic party. Why? Because I was very vocal in my community about how upset and angry I was about the treatment Senator Hillary Clinton received during her run for the presidency. As I told everyone then and I say it again now, she had every right – EVERY RIGHT – to compete fairly for the office of President of the United States. I feel she was intentionally derailed. It was nasty and everyone who is fair-minded could see it happening. I sure did.
I finally logged in tonight so that I could share with you how impressed I am that the PUMAs are putting justice before party.
As a side note, I have to say that one of the strange consequences of this clear injustice is the opportunity to see Geraldine Ferraro as a regular contributor to FoxNews. (Yes, that is my channel…probably not a surprise.) She and I may disagree on a number of policy items but I must say that whenever she is on, I stop what I am doing and listen to what she has to say. I enjoy her.
Perhaps the only other person in this campaign process that is being attacked with equal fervor as Senator Hillary Clinton is Gov. Sarah Palin. For those of you that aren’t for her as a candidate, I have appreciated reading that you are not against her a woman.
#278, 279: invalid response…yes…this is indeed true!
Bossier, that is right across the bridge. So how did you end up in Canada. I have a friend that went to work for Apache in Canada.
276 bobram
Wait, wait, wait… there’s an add on. Starts Staurday morning for you, tomorrow night for me…
so, rest. rest. rest. at least tomorrow.
see:110 murphy
Ask an 90+ yr. old woman about the depression and she said she was in her twenties. She didn’t know it was going on. She had her job and she just lived each day. Just thought it was normal. My parents and my husband’s parents all lived during the depression. They survived (it was tight). Dad couldn’t find work until he came west from NY. My husband’s father had a farm and lost it due to polio, not the depression. But these people came through with strong characters and conviction. They taught me and my husband both that we can do the same if necessary. And I know we can. There is a “great divide” in this country socially and economically. I’ve always thought that the biggest problem would be an economic revolution of sorts. Well, here it goes. This is a long way from over. Hang on for the ride. I heard today that the next President is going to inherit the worst financial situation since the depression and will have little or no power or built in check and balance to turn this mess around. I’m glad it isn’t Hillary in this case. Let O fail flat on his tush. That’s the only way the Obamabots will learn when they have to give away all their toys and their fancy learning (Harvard) doesn’t help them one bit (and I’m college educated). Character and survival skills are what get one through the chaos.
smile…..long love story Noblecascade……that is how I got here….enough said????
#274 DancesWithPumas, Yeah! Just might work out. Will certainly have some pleasant dreams tonight with all these thoughts you have put in my head.
I see.
Grits are good and this is from a northern girl.
didn’t mean to pry. I just think it is interesting how people land in different places.
anyone’s vote above the masion dixion line about grits doesn’t count…lol
just kidding
My mom was the kind that if she heard about a food, she’d make it whether it was a continent away or a state away from us. I still have her old recipe box and it is loaded with cultural tastes that she made.
Invalid
Ahhhh shucks!
NOP #258 — you kidding??
i LOVE grits! love love love them.
with butter and brown sugar.
or butter and salt.
or maple syrup and butter.
or just butter.
I’m thinking of celebrating my 40th down in NO, so may be we CAN have a beer!
Grits pffffft
Fried Green Tomatoes are the ultimate southern dish
Anyone got a good way to spin this? I need a lift before bed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26campaign.html?partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss
287 ipotter
and the water…clear as a bell… and the blue volcano (underwater) and the wildlife… and the termites taste like carrots…and the cuisine… fanfreakintastic!
186 Noblecascade on 09.25.08 at 10:57 pm #178 Middle age female
where are you going? for vacation?
********
Aruba – we go for three wks every fall.
I’m with you there sazzylady……with whiteperch in cornmeal….god I miss fish frys!!!!!
or fried okra
$289halligan: Oh this is hilarious! Hurray for halligan!
Once I was somewhere where a large group was having breakfast; this was in Irving, TX, right next to Dallas.
And the servers brought out big bowls of grits…runny grits…as far as I was concerned..cooking to the right texture is important…not runny or sticking together..so I started putting butter and salt , the tradition here,on my runny grits running all over the plate…looked around and saw a bunch of people putting sugar on their runny grits…I of course thought they were crazy..
had never seen that before…Come to find out …this stuff was cream of wheat…so the crazy one was me…
I guess…I thought the grits tasted a bit strange…for grits,runny or not…Good for you, halligan…eat those grits!
276 & 284 – you both did a great job working this out, on the blog and off!
okra ….ugh gag spit
and crawfish……..and yes okra……I miss the food in the south………
Thx anna
#298 Middle age female
how exciting..you must not work..never could I be gone from work for 3 weeks. I have a friend that her and her husband go on vacations for 6 to 8 weeks. Wow!
and biskets and sausage gravy…ok we have to stop this…I’m getting home sick…and hungry!!!!
One of my Obamabot son’s friends just came over and said I have a racist (McCain/Palin) sign in my yard. Oh Lord help us…
#294Murphy: A grits woman…amazing! That would be great…indeed!
#277 NewOrleansPuma
My favorite use for grits is to put them in paint for texture (before cooking of course.) When I was a young newlywed money was scarce and I wanted to spruce up the bedroom. I found a can of cheap paint but needed texture. One box of grits stirred into the paint did the job! My husband still teases me about it but it worked.
i veer from dwp on this — i LOVE okra.
damn!
I have a southern taste in food.
just LOVE okra — and bbq, natch.
but back on topic — I have a $5 dollar bet with Sheri Tagg that there WILL be a debate tomorrow (tonight?) night.
That’s my story and I’m sticking with it!
Debate tomorrow night for sure.
I told my son’s friend that he was right, Obama is half white and I hate white people.
my parents and my in laws lived through the depression, and they never forgot.
They were such strong ,honest, hardworking people.
My father told me time and again ,that a handshake was your bond.
He believed that honesty was more important than anything.
said if you were honest ,you wouldnt cheat ,lie or steal.
He was and still is my HERO
308 shasta2001
crazy. they are dang crazy. ignorant morons. sheesh!
#296 Anna
McCain meant well by going back to WA D.C., but it has seemingly backfired. There are those who believe he did this gig to cover up the news about his campaign manager, Rick Davis, who left the campaign today after the news broke that he was involved with one of the big busted corporations up until a few weeks ago. McCains campaign suspension was the bigger news. He’s battling a real uphill trip these past few days and week. Obama is sitting back and letting it happen. The teflon is back again on this guy.
311 murphy
A Presidential debate… or any ol’ debate?
Did you specify?
Shasta #308 — get used to it. That’s their excuse for losing — that we’re all racists.
sad story.
#296 Anna7000
McCain silently for more than 40 minutes while every one had a turn talking. This is not a dinner table at home don’t they have to yield the floor for him to speak or something?
Obama only spoke because Read gave up his turn to him.
#311 Murphy
Did it include how many people will debate? One with himself or two with each other?
296 Anna7000
First consider the source. Second “O” is a freshman senator and he really can’t contribute anything to any discussion. Third he wouldn’t even have been invited to this meeting, because of his status as a freshman senator, so it was McCain’s suggestion that he be invited, otherwise he wouldn’t have been there.
Fourth and final his group ACORN, the one double registering people, were up to receive big money if this bailout succeeded.
The NYTimes has been in the tank for “O” for a long time so of course they are going to spin the story.
Take everything they say with a grain of salt, throw it over your shoulder and forget about it.
Have a good nights sleep.
sorry — a presidential debate between McCain and Obama. on schedule and on time.
McCain comes out looking like he can walk and chew gum at the same time, and Obama looks like he always does — a deer in the headlights.
amateur.
now wait Pumas I this bozo has proven quite well that he could debate himself very well…….now he might get to do it on tv
Good night Pumas.
night shampoo
Invalid response: You need to whip yourself up some of your southern food…When I lived in Boston, I got so homesick for red beans and rice,(couldn’t find pickled meat or ham seasoning, no Camellia brand red beans,,,to fix them myself…anyway…I came as close as I could one day in Cambridge at a Cuban rest…black beans and rice…made my week…My little New Orleans mama sent me more care packages…of stuff…I could not find…
I need to go eat something….and I need to check out…
Long live Grits!..either as food or as leftovers to fix holes in driveways! I surely do love the people here…
Thanks, Murphy….thanks to you all….See you, I hope, on the morrow.
I think McCain will be there…but just picture the look on NOBAMA’s face if Palin walked out in his place…….talk about deer in headlights……I giggle just thinking about it
nite pumas, angels on your pillows
Night NewOrleansPuma
halligan and shampoovta – thanks for your perspectives. curious thing: i just went back to read the article again and the writer consistently refers to McCain as MR McCain, yet refers to Obama as SENATOR Obama. How f****** up. I think I’ll need to contact them tomorrow.
I’ll be at a wedding rehearsal tomorrow night so I’ll miss the debate. I’d rather be at the rehearsal. Can’t stand to listen to “the great one” talk and the stage show afterwards by the MSM is more than I can take.
Night all! Sweet PUMA dreams.
If you really want to know what we’re up against in November, take a look at these two videos on Obama’s links to ACORN. Most of the tape is from ACORN’s June 2008 convention. It is a very sobering look at Marxism in action, and the possible future of the US if Obama gets into the White House:
ACORN Convention June 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Ep1tkNOUU Part 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625jUE78zjE Part 2 or 2
I think I’ll stick with deer and moose meat.
The House Repubs and McCain are trying to revise the so-called bailout to get rid of the bs millions on dollars to ACORN earmark that Pelosi and Reid added.
The biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression…..those are bozo’s words. Then he says “call me if you need me”.
Our economy is on the line……and Pelosi and her minions are concerned about adding MILLIONS of $$$ to ACORN? Are you f’ing kidding me? We MUST vote these idiots out and replace them with good Democrats that hold our values. Our country is at stake. These people are completely nuts. I cannot believe this is my party now. I am so close to registering as an Independent. I am so disgusted.
Notfollingthe piedpiper: I just saw your post…that is the most creative use of grits I ever saw…oh..I love that!
Regarding okra: If you fry it, it is not slimy…if you put it in something raw without frying it first it will be slimmy.
So if you use it in anything like a soup or a gumbo, you have to pan fry it off first…not deep fry…until it is a bit dry, then put it in the pot…this also enhances the okra flavor, which I like also..
Ok…that’s it…gotta go…Hugs to all.
329 Anna7000 Obama always looks so much like a little boy. Who would ever thing to put “Mr.” in front of his name?
I’d better head off to bed. They’ll probably be expecting me at wack (c. kat in your hat) tomorrow.
Goodnight.
If you get bored, do a Prowl ; p
Grits are good with butter and bacon and toast! Boy I wish I had some!
Forget it! Couldn’t go to bed without contacting the two authors of that NY Times piece. Done. Now I can sleep (for at least 2 hours!)
I sent 14 reasons I will not vote Obama to the editor of my newspaper I will probably hear about this. the town is full of obot pin heads! ouch!!
#296 Anna7000
Hey, my hero….
Obviously, McCain KNEW what was going on with his party and the bailout. The truth of the matter was that the Repub. House was not on board with the plan and there was NO plan or a deal. Repubs. were getting all sorts of calls, etc from their constituents to not vote for it. McCain knew this and he made the right choice. It probably would not have gone through as the Dems and some Repub. Senators were going forward as if it would have passed. Wrong! Shows how out of touch nobo is with the realities of what is going on re: the bailout. It makes him look like an idiot because he was so clueless. His Congress counterparts are so anxious to get to vacation that they were blinded to what was happening with the House part of Congres. Just because the Senate agrees to something they can’t do anything unless the House also agrees with it. I think nob really looked like a fool, but more so, Reid and Pelosi looked even worse. Frankly, the Repubs. should have been furious for the Dems trying to push through a horrendous bill.
Now, we know one of the reasons that the Repubs didn’t like the bill is because ACORN was going to get 20% of the money used to retire the debt.
What? No Baby-back ribs and collard greens? I thought ya’all were talking about southern food!
That would be jowls and collard greens!
We had mixed greens for supper tonight
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
Another good one from Marc Rubin.
diva – pull that post together into a letter to the media. it’s great!
meanwhile, talking with my husband cause i’m so pissed off and worked up. he thinks all our elected officials are still waiting a bit to see how things settle somewhat since they’re all being inundated with e-mails from their angry constituents about the entire matter.
i don’t know.
i’m going to get going on my 2 hour sleep window. if i’m lucky, i’ll get 3!
wow… dick morris just described john mccains latest move as to the bailout..”glorious,wonderful,genius”…
gingrich desrcibes it as” brilliaint and a big game changer”..
my head is spinning here..
mccain is dancing circles around obama!
I am amazed at how Congress can consider giving ACORN a dime with all of the past problems. And even more amazed how they could even think of including a provision for giving them funds with today’s testimony before the House Judiciary Committee:
http://www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/JamesTerryACORN9-24.pdf
Good night my smart pumas
Dances – I think that is a different project that Murphy is talking about – for the 50 states slate – not the newspaper blitz
Obama Admits Dual Citizenship September 25, 2008 by texasdarlin
Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author So, at long last, Senator Obama admits that he was born with Dual Citizenship:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2090836/posts
Pumas,
When you have good information that can be substantiated COPY THAT LINK and POST IT EVERYWHERE!! That is something so easy to do and many will finally get the real stories that the msm refuses to tell the American public. Like a ripple….it will go to others who will tell others who will tell others……
greenfun – so glad i saw your post before shutting down. as you said, another great piece from marc!
Leftover grits (if you are so lucky) can be cut into 2″ squares and fried in butter until slightly brown. So good topped with grated cheddar cheese and snipped chives or green onion tops. Some like them served with maple syrup. And now about okra, cook whole okra in very little water. When they change color add about two teaspoons of vinegar, salt and plenty of pepper. The vinegar checks to slime. Don’t forget buttermilk pie. Now you have a true southern feast.
Can’t wait to see what tomorrow brings. I’m beginning to love John McCain as much as I love Bill Clinton.
#346 Anna7000
Will do tomorrow. Been oout of the work world for so long, just don’t hae the “groove” for writing. But I’ll try and you can critique. I actually can be a pretty good writer.
Try Ambien. Wake up feeling great, goodnight’s sleep, no real side effects except a great night of sleep. Ask your doc. Stay away from the Ambien CR.
#348 Grizzly: No way should tax payer money be going exclusively to ACORN. They could put some provision in the bail out to have established agencies apply for grants to provide housing for the poor. But there are many groups with a proven track record who should be eligible to apply, the Catholic church comes to mind, so I think it is clear that this is a plan pushed by liberals because they can’t stomach the idea of religion based services so they went for ACORN.
If this goes through then at least half of our Congress should be tried for treason.
Anna 7000———I always look forward to Marc’s posts too.
Goodnight, hope you get good rest.
#356 Seattlegirl
If you didn’t see my earlier post, you have to read this about George Soros who practically owns the DNC and nobo. It also explains about all the organizations that endorsed nobo, especially the women’s groups. There is also another page that talks about his secondary affiliations. It is pretty scary. He is THE machine behind all the money and far-far-far left liberalism.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
Well, Washington Mutual just failed. FDIC cut a deal to sell the assets to Morgan/Chase.
Largest bank failure in history at over $300 billion.
356 Seattlegirl They should ALL be tried for treason whether it goes through or not!
Grr
Went on Tiki Central for a break and some dope posted some Obama tiki thread but then some one pasted this pic.
LOL
Obamas Island
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/2706x48dc528a.jpg
Had to show ya be for bed time.
Let me ask this one more time, are we sure the Democrats were going to give ACORN some money on this $700Billion $ bailout, or was on one of the previous bailouts?
#358 diva2: Very interesting. I had heard Soros name come up over and over but I never read a background on him. That does explain the behavior of the supposed “feminists” I actually got another E-mail from NOW today asking for money and ripping Palin again. They just do not get the message that I am through with them.
I guess everyone went to bed.
I am up alone again in the den wandering in the dark…
Goodnight all! This is very exciting and I can’t wait to see what shenanigans they are up to tomorrow. I think I will go out and buy a big bag of rice and a big bag of dried beans and a couple cases of stewed tomatoes. You know, emergency “earthquake supplies”.
That picture says it all! Too much!
Obama get to sit at the big table with the adults.
He looks like a bump on a log.
I’ve been watching TV listening to the latest on the financial talks, then I went web surfing and I just came from WaPo where I gave Chris Cillizza a piece of my mind. His column was about Bill being lukewarm this week on TV towards Obama. This is what I said:
“The reason for Bill’s lukewarm support for Obama is that he and Hillary probably vetted Obama themselves during the primaries. Remember Hillary’s Rezko reference, Obama’s slumlord co-hort, during the debates? Obama is bad news. And Bill’s in a “catch 22.”
Obama has too many controversial and disturbing ties which has been all but covered-up by Obama’s MSM surrogates across the nation. It’s a far-left agenda that is not in concert with the average mainstream Democrat. That is why so many Democrats supported Hillary, who was by far the better candidate, rather than Obama and his ties with Rezko, Ayers, al Mansour, Khalidi, McKnight, Auchi (arms dealer to Saddam Hussein), Alsammarae, his Pakistani friends now his bundlers, ties to radical activist groups, sympathizer to Palistine, Iran, etc.
Bill knows more than I do about Obama and even if Hillary hadn’t been in the race, I think he would still be lukewarm for a candidate like Obama with his “controversial” background. Notwithstanding, Obama’s lack of experience, unremarkable career as a state senator and US Senator and his many flip-flops on positions.
The MSM, including you Chris, due a great disservice to the public by spending more time to lipstick on a pig, rather than truly doing your job as a member of the “free press.”
To many of us, 2008 is the year journalism died.”
The coalition sites have been reporting the fact that ACORN benefitted from the bailout a week or so ago… the link below was from the 15th. I think no quarter also had an article on this. I thought everyone saw those links on this topic.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/housing-bailout-bill-includes-millions-for-acorn-national-council-of-la-raza/
Also… did you see the above link on Obama’s dual citizenship? He has a factcheck posted on his site fight the Smears that ADMITS to a dual citizenship (a day after answering to Berg). Read about it here (which includes a link to his Fight the Smears page):
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/
shampoovta on 09.25.08 at 11:33 pm
How about R.E.M. –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmxyj6iInMc
——————-
I LOVE IT- nothing like this kind of music to escape a bit!
It’s The End Of The World As We Know It
Off topic, but I’m tired of everyone dissing Bill Clinton by saying that the economy was only strong during his presidency because of the dot.com boom.
What about the cell phone, ipod, big screen tv, video game, laptop boom that we’ve had since Bush has been in?
It would have been soooo cool to have Bill as the First Dude.
Bill Clinton, Cindy McCain, first spouse material.
Michele Obama???????
Barack Obama’s Advisers Wrote Bill Barack Obama Decries On Campaign Trail
“Let me welcome you all here today for the signing of this historic legislation. With this bill, the American financial system takes a major step forward towards the 21st century, one that will benefit American consumers, business, and the national economy for many years to come.” — Larry Summers, Then-Clinton Treasury Secretary And Current Obama Adviser, On Gramm-Leach-Bliley (1999)
Today, The Obama Campaign, As Barack Obama Has Done Over The Past Few Days, Blamed The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act For The Current Economic Crisis:
Obama Campaign Memo: “Gramm Was ‘Principal Author’ Of The 1999 Gramm-Leach-BlileyAct, Breaking Down Walls Between Banking, Insurance, And Securities Firms Erected By Depression-Era Glass-Steagall Act. ‘Mr. Gramm, a principal author of the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which broke down the walls between banking, insurance, and securities, left Congress in late 2002 to become vice chairman of UBS Warburg.’ [American Banker, 3/11/08].” (Obama Campaign Memo, 9/19/08)
However, Just Today, The Washington Post Highlighted The Utter Hypocrisy Of Obama’s Position Considering Some Of The Very Same Advisers He Met With This Morning Were Major Supporters Of The Bill:
The Washington Post: Obama Supporters And Advisers Were Authors And Proponents Of The Very Same Bill Barack Obama Attacks On The Campaign Trail. “One element of the Obama campaign’s brief against Mr. McCain is that he supported repeal of the law separating commercial banks from investment banks. … Would it be churlish to point out that another author of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley law is former congressman Jim Leach, a founder of Republicans for Obama? Or that Obama advisers Lawrence H. Summers and Robert E. Rubin supported the repeal which was signed by President Bill Clinton?” (Editorial, “‘Always For Less Regulation’?” The Washington Post, 9/19/08)
Barack Obama Advisers Who Lobbied For The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act:
• Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) — Barack Obama’s Running Mate
• Robert Rubin — Obama Economic Adviser Who Met With Obama Today
• Larry Summers — Obama Economic Adviser Who Met With Obama Today
• Gene Sperling — Obama Economic Adviser Who Met With Obama Today
• Former Rep. Jim Leach (R-IA) — Leads “Republicans For Obama” And Spoke At The Democrat National Convention
• Former President Bill Clinton — Signed The Bill And Whose Support Barack Obama Has Constantly Sought
Joe Biden — Obama’s Own Running Mate — Voted In Favor Of Gramm-Leach-Bliley:
Joe Biden Voted For The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Modernization Act Of 1999. (S. 900, CQ Vote #354: Adopted 90-8: R 52-1; D 38-7; I 1-0, 11/4/99, Biden Voted Yea)
Robert Rubin — Former Treasury Secretary (1995-1999) — Lobbied For Gramm-Leach-Bliley:
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act Only Became Law Because Then-Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin Urged President Clinton To Sign The Legislation. “[T]he Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act … only became law when Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin prevailed upon President Clinton to sign the bill.” (Robert Scheer, Op-Ed, “Candidates Seek Banking ‘Expertise’ We Don’t Need,” San Gabriel Valley [CA] Tribune, 8/3/08)
President Clinton: Former Secretary Bob Rubin “Worked Very Hard On This.” CLINTON: “But I do want to thank all the members here and all those who aren’t here and I’d like to thank two New Yorkers who aren’t here who have been mentioned — former Secretary of the Treasury Bob Rubin, who worked very hard on this, and former chairman, Senator Al D’Amato, who talked to me about this often.” (President Clinton, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD): “I Want To Thank The President, Secretary Summers, Former Secretary Rubin For Their Strong Support Throughout This Process.” (Senator Sarbanes, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
Lawrence Summers Former Treasury Secretary (1999-2001) Worked For The Passage Of Gramm-Leach-Bliley
Obama Adviser Larry Summers Was Involved In Negotiating The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, And Called It A “Major Step Forward Toward The 21st Century.” “Mr. Summers, the Obama adviser, was among those who negotiated the [1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley] measure on behalf of the Clinton administration, and he praised it as a ‘major step forward toward the 21st Century.’” (Michael M. Phillips, Elizabeth Holmes and Amy Chozick, “Candidates Call Upon Big Names For Advice,” The Wall Street Journal, 9/18/08)
• Then-Treasury Secretary Summers Called Gramm-Leach-Bliley “Historic Legislation” That Is “A Major Step Forward Towards The 21st Century.” SUMMERS: “Let me welcome you all here today for the signing of this historic legislation. With this bill, the American financial system takes a major step forward towards the 21st century, one that will benefit American consumers, business, and the national economy for many years to come. This is the culmination of years of effort by many, many people, reflects the work of presidents, Treasury officials, members of Congress, those in the private sector, from both parties, and dedicated professionals, both inside and outside the government. With their help, I believe we have all found the right framework for America’s future financial system.” (Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
President Clinton” “I Want To Express My Gratitude To Those Principally Responsible For The Success Of This Legislation … Secretary Summers.” CLINTON: “Like all those before me, I want to express my gratitude to those principally responsible for the success of this legislation. I thank Secretary Summers and the entire team at Treasury, but especially Undersecretary Gensler for their work, and Assistant Secretary Linda Robertson.” (President Clinton, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
Secretary Summers: “And I Want To Thank Especially My Predecessor, Bob Rubin, Who Cared Deeply That We Get This Bill Right…” (Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
Gene Sperling — Former National Economic Adviser for President Bill Clinton (1997-2001) — Lobbied And Worked On Gramm-Leach-Bliley:
Secretary Summers: “…Gene Sperling And Sarah Rosen And Their Colleagues At The National Economic Council For Everything That They Have Done In Bringing Us To This Point.” (Secretary Summers, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
Rep. Jim Leach (R-IA) — One Of The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act’s Co-Authors — Is An Obama Supporter And Leader Of “Republicans For Obama”:
Former Rep. Jim Leach (R-IA) Was The Co-Author Of The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Which Repealed The Glass-Steagall Act And Allowed Competition Between Commercial And Investment Banks And Insurance Companies. (S. 900, Signed 11/12/99)
• Leach Endorsed Obama And Serves As A Leader Of “Republicans For Obama.” “Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, picked up the endorsement today of former Republican Representative Jim Leach of Iowa, an important state in the general election.” (Jonathan D. Salant, “Iowa Republican Leach, Ex-House Member, Backs Democrat Obama,” Bloomberg News, 8/12/08)
• Leach Spoke At The Democrat National Convention. “The Democratic National Convention Committee (DNCC) and the Obama For America Campaign have confirmed that former Rep. Jim Leach (R-Iowa) will speak Monday, the opening night of the convention, themed ‘One Nation.’” (Mary Ann Akers, “Surprise GOP Speaker At Dem Convention: Jim Leach,” The Washington Post’s “The Sleuth” Blog, voices.washingtonpost.com, 8/24/08)
Representative Jim Leach: “Mr. President, Secretary Summers, colleagues in the House; let me just say, this is a bill that’s bipartisan, bicameral, ‘bi’ — in fact, tri-institutional, with officials of the legislative, executive, as well as the independent regulatory branches of government working well together.” (Representative Leach, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD): Representative Leach “Shepherded” The Bill Through The Congress. SARBANES: “I want to thank Chairman Leach, who served as such an able chairman of the conference committee and kept us at the table on a — when, on occasion, it looked like maybe people would walk away from the negotiating table. He shepherded the process through, I think, in an exemplary way.” (Senator Sarbanes, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
President Bill Clinton — Who Signed The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act — Is The Leader Barack Obama Has Been Constantly Meeting With And Getting Advice From:
President Clinton Signed The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act Into Law On November 12, 1999 As Public Law No. 106-102. (P.L. No. 106-102)
President Clinton: “This Is A Very Good Day For The United States.” (President Clinton, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
President Clinton: “So This Is A Day We Can Celebrate As An American Day.” (President Clinton, Remarks, Washington, D.C., 11/12/99)
364 BillieJo
Sorry it took so long to respond to ya. I just took a quick run around the web and I do not see any source for that including on Fox.
Fox is usually 1 day behind on show transcripts so it may show up tomorrow. For now I would have to say I’m not for sure that Senator Graham said this.
check out the links I posted at #367… good night PUMA’s
372 thanks mzebest and night
Barney Frank stated today that they want to give 20% (I think from any profits) to ACORN. Well, how about us Americans that want to get paid first?
#367 mzebest
The fact that the Dems have put ACORN in the bailout is a disgrace. Also I heard on Lou Dobbs last week that the bailout includes bailing out FOREIGN BANKS also. Because they have US citizens over here working for them. How many workers? Find them another job!
In the past I have sided with the Repubs on very few issues, but lately they have been on the correct (I can’t say “right”) side of the issues.
Also, on Obama’s citizenship. He may have used an Indonesian passport when he went to Pakistan at age 20 with a college friend who was from Pakistan. He’s now one of Obama’s bundlers.
Remember last winter when the US Passport computer system was hacked and someone went into Obama’s file. That someone was traced back to ties with Obama’s campaign. When the tie to Obama came out, the MSM squashed the story. I think Obama may have thought he was a US citizen then, and his application for a passport was turned down. Then, because he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father, he found out he was actually Indonesian. Maybe, that computer hack wiped out Obama’s application to the Passport Office?
At every turn, there’s a new wrinkle about Obama.
Wake up, America!!!
#371 goofsmom on 09.26.08 at 1:23 am
364 BillieJo
Sorry it took so long to respond to ya. I just took a quick run around the web and I do not see any source for that including on Fox.
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Thanks, I haven’t seen it anywhere about today’s bailouts. I did see it for a previous bail out. On McCain’s blog they are also talking about it, 20% to ACORN.
You guys would be surprised how many PUMAs and Independents are on McCains blogs. No one I know so far. Their site takes forever to post and has no number to find your place, a nightmare.
376 BillieJo
Far as I can tell, this is what everyone is referring to.
This is the same bailout plan that was discussed over the last couple weeks.
It has just become more urgent, so all the previous items discussed in the Home bailout plan continue.
Greta is being replayed now on fox so am watching with one eye to see if Senator Graham is on… may have already missed that part… sigh…
goofsmom & BillieJo-
Sen. Graham said the bailout included 20% of the 700 billion will go to ACORN. He also said that he and other republicans do not want to vote for that. They do know all about ACORN. Newt Gingritch mentioned them in an article.
hmmm, could it be the Democrats want ACORN funded so they can continue to perpetrate voter fraud in the swing states?
Considering the Indonesian passport, and lack of Oath of Allegiance ceremony, I think not only is Ruh-Roh not a natural-born citizen, he may actually be an undocumented illegal alien!
Perhaps he can apply for amnesty.
379 Cassie
I was trying to find where Sen. Graham said it. Some one posted earlier that it was on Greta but I couldn’t find it. Do you know where he said it?
380 LaureyPuma
My thoughts exactly
##358;
Re: Soros. At age 14, while rationalizing betrayal of some friends, he decided someone else would have if he hadn’t, so he was inherently blameless, and free to do as he wished. Which meant, he decided, that he was God. And has ever since acted on that belief.
Not kidding. YCLIU.
He just only said it on Greta. But I can find an article about the bailout with ACORN included. This one is not it but just to give you guys an idea. BBL Gotta look for article.
http://www.acorn.org/
385 Cassie
I think I found the article from the 14th or 15th.
I can’t believe I missed it on Greta again. I must have really bad timing today…
This might help you. It’s also the best I can do.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
387 Cassie
Thanks for the assist… I have a cousin Cassie, I’ve always loved that name..
Not to be an egomaniac but the name fits my personality.
SUBJECT: JOHN MCCAIN’S 2005 HOUSING REGULATORY REFORM ACT
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Bill Summary:
1/26/2005–Introduced. Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 – Amends the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish:
(1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and
(2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board. Sets forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions of the Agency, including provisions respecting:
(1) assessment authority;
(2) authority to limit non-mission-related assets;
(3) minimum and critical capital levels;
(4) risk-based capital test;
(5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises;
(6) enforcement actions and penalties;
(7) golden parachutes; and
(8) reporting. Amends the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation.
Transfers the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation. Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements. Abolishes the Federal Housing Finance Board.
The bill introduced in 2005 — John McCain sponsor.
Get this out to everyone you know and prove:
That Obama is a liar and blaming the republicans for our financial crisis when the record shows that it was the democrats including Obama and Biden, that voted against regulatory reform. They blocked this bill from passing!
Democrat Barney Frank was very vocal speaking out against regulatory reform in 2005/6. Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd chair the banking and finance committees. However, where were they during the buildup to this crisis? They had ample warning from John McCain and Alan Greenspan in 2005/6 and did nothing. They fought against regulatory reform of Freddie and Fannie which lead to the root cause of America’s financial crisis on wallstreet. Their incompetence is obscene!
Now we look to them to solve the problem? With their record, its no wonder they’re stumbling all over themselves to blame the Republicans. Even Bush tried to pass regulatory reform in 2003 and the democrats blocked him.
Let’s chalk this catastrophe up to Obama’s good judgment? Obama is ready to RUN away, not ready to accept responsibility, and definitely not ready to lead, not now, not ever!! Can we trust Obama with our economic security? NO. Obama tried to push the blame for his bad decision onto John McCain. Obama voted against regulation and McCain sponsored a bill for it.
It’s pretty clear that John McCain can be trusted with our economy and Obama should go hide under a rock!
Obama: Sex Education for Kindergartners (The real story)
While a member of the Illinois state legislature, Barack Obama voted YES on SB99, the so-called “comprehensive sex education” act sponsored by planned Parenthood and the ACLU. The act includes a provision for sex education for kindergarten children. It passed March 6th, 2003.
… The Obama campaign and some commentators are trying to spin the sex education bill as a device to prevent sexual predators, slaming am ad run by McCain pointing out Obama supporting the bad bill. Sorry folks, the part of the bill Obama refers to is only one part of the bill, SB99
SB99 foundation is based on the Guidlines for Comprehensive Sexuality Education K-12
http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf
Here is a QUOTE from those guidlines, starting with Page 25.
Developmental Messages:
Level 1 (ages 5-8)
• Each body part has a correct name and a specific function.
• A person’s genitals, reproductive organs, and genes determine whether the person is male or female.
• A boy/man has nipples, a penis, a scrotum, and testicles.
• A girl/woman has breasts, nipples, a vulva, a clitoris, a vagina, a uterus, and ovaries.
• Some sexual or reproductive organs, such as penises and vulvas, are external or on the outside of
the body while others, such as ovaries and testicles, are internal or inside the body.
• Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.
(Page 26) LEVEL 1 (age 5-8)
• Men and women have reproductive organs that enable them to have a child.
• Men and women have specific cells in their bodies (sperm cells and egg cells) that enable them to reproduce.
• Reproduction requires that a sperm and egg join.
• Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
Unquote:
Still think it was strictly about preventing sexual predators? Obama is a liar and the McCain ad got this one right!
Night all puma’s
Lil’goof gets me up early….
nhforhillary – if you’re still here – do you have a link i can reference re: your post about mc cain sponsoring that 2005 bill?
What’s in the heart comes out via the tongue !
From Rush Limbaugh’s radio show yesterday…..
Hey, folks, you want to tweak the Drive-By Media with me right now?
You are aware, probably, that Barack Obama lost his bearings recently and
said that he was going to campaign in all 57 states.
You heard this ? And most everybody chalked it up to,”Well, he’s tired.”
You know, this is a Dan Quayle moment. I mean, Dan Quayle goes out there
and misspells ‘potato’ and we still hear jokes about it.
Barack Obama says he’s gonna go out and campaign in 57 states! He was just tired,you know, it’s been such a long campaign, he’s been so many places,he probably thinks there are 57 states.
Well, I have here a printout from a web site called the International Humanist and Ethical Union.
And here is how the second paragraph of an article on thatwebsite begins.
“Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the United Nations Commission on human rights called commbating.”
Obama said he’s going to campaign in 57 states and it turns out that there are
57 Islamic states.
There are 57 Islamic states !
So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen?
Wow Sandipuma! What a find. Please repost your comment during the day tomorrow. I believe it is a more telling slip.
sandipuma – hate to burst your bubble, but i think that take on it is old news.
Yes it is
I don’t usually post so late, but couldn’t sleep. Didn’t think there’d by a soul on the blog. You all on the west coast or a bunch of insomniacs or both?!*
Well i’m off to bed.Need to get up early for a change lol(((PUMAS)))
West Caost lol but am off to lala land
sandipuma – hey, you buying into BO’s jargon there with you 399 post? Good night.
Yes it is but was retold yesterday by Rush.
For those not aware
Yikes no way .What a thought.Growwllllllllll
402 – good.
403 – yup.
405? – good night!
i’ll be mumbling down here by myself now!
You’re pretty peppy for someone about to go to bed. No scram and get so sleep!
Anna, actually for me it is both.
Sandipuma, I had never heard that reference before.
hum dum dee dum. down in the basement all by myself. ho hum. not much to do. whistling a tune……lots of echo. ideas for tomorrow are brewing…..la dee da. well. guess i’ll give sleep another try…..oh. hm, just stumbled upon an old can. looks like a rusty maxwell house coffee can that the former tenants must have left in the house. wonder what’s in it. wow, look at that: old wooden clothes pins.
laurey – uh oh. thought i was all alone. what state are you in (if you care to share)?
Hi Anna, I am in California.
You know, I have created this long document that lists facts about Obama vs. McCain that I plan to send out to anyone I can. I have asked for feedback on it but I have not gotten any input as of yet. Would you be interested in taking a look?
Yes, post it now!
It is about 11 pages long.
Oh. Oops. A tad long, though this thread is likely nearly over. You wanna post it. I don’t give out my e-mail. So, posting is the only option. If you post it, I’ll copy it into a word document, look at it tomorrow and get back to you. What do you want to do?
OR, you could just post the first page and I could get a feel and see if I want to see more (no offense).
Before you vote think about this:
The following information is a side by side comparison of Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McCain on their presidential platform, their campaign and their political record. This data was compiled by a former Hillary Clinton for President supporter and a registered Independent voter. All factual data has been reported or is available on line. I encourage you to investigate these facts as well.
Experience:
McCain Obama
35 Years as a US Senator 2.5 Years as a US Senator – only
145 days active, the remainder
campaigning for President.
Character:
McCain Obama
POW, refused to early release after repeated Business associates with convicted
torture that has left him near death and permanently felons, William Ayers (domestic
disabled. He refused to be released until the last man terrorist whose bombs killed
in his battalion was also released also. He remained in the people), Tony Rezko, convicted
Hanoi Hilton for 3 additional years. Felon, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, an
Racist who gave Louis Farrakan a
Lifetime achievement award.
Currently being sued by Phillip
Berg, who is challenging Obama’s ability to run for President under the Constitution, due to dual
Citizenship (Kenya & Indonesia).
Currently under investigation for
Violation of the Logan Act, which occurred during his summer tour. Admits to striking a deal with
Iraq’s new government leaders, in
Particular, Hoshyar Zebari. Obama
Requested that Zebari postpone
Advancement of the government
Transition until the new admini-
stration took office. Zebari refused.
Had Obama been successful, he
would have delayed troops return
by six months. His motive was to
continue anti-war sentiment in
this country to bolster is campaign.
He violates the Logan Act for usurping the Bush
Administration’s agreement and for
negotiating with a foreign country
without the consent of the President
or Secretary of State.
Michelle Obama’s infamous speech
Stating “It was the first time in her
life, she was proud to be an
American”
Painting over the American flag on
His private jet with his personal-
ized logo.
Obama said his Grandmother was a “typical white person.”
Refused to put his hand over his
heart during the STAR
SPANGLED BANNER, although
every other candidate did.
Platform:
McCain Obama
For offshore drilling as a temporary Against off shore drilling
fix to current gasoline prices while
alternative fuel options are obtained. Talks a lot about “change”
Wants to end America’s dependency America will continue to be
on foreign oil. dependent on foreign oil
until alternative fuel options
Stated he will not create new taxes. exist.
Does not want to keep troops in Iraq. Obama’s new tax plan will increase
Wants to achieve stability in the region. taxes on everyone. See attachment.
His 100-year comment was about keeping
A military base there. Like we have in Tried to negotiate a deal that would
many other countries. keep troops in Iraq longer.
Does not want to privatize Social Security. Wants to raise the age of eligibility.
Would adopt plan to allow those born after
1950 to voluntarily participate by contributing
a portion of their benefits now paid in payroll taxes
to an investment fund that follows the stock
market.
Does not want to raise the minimum age. Obama has distorted McCain’s position on Social Security. 9/23/08
Washington Post, 9/23/09
Has promised to secure our ports and borders Wants to give driver’s licenses to
before implementing an illegal immigration illegal aliens. Wants immigration
reform. reform akin to amnesty with no
plans to secure our borders or ports.
Sarah Palin initially supported the “Bridge
to nowhere” then changed her mind after Both Obama and Joe Biden mock
reviewing additional information and voted Palin’s involvement with the
against it. Infamous bridge, yet they both
Voted for it. As quoted by
Bill Allison of the Sunlight Foundation, a taxpayer watchdog group. “Because, yes, they had a chance to vote specifically against the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska to redirect the money to people, to bridges and infrastructure damaged by Hurricane Katrina going in to New Orleans, and they chose not to.” CNN 9/25/08
Campaign:
McCain Obama
Stated he would rather lose Said he voted against the war.
an election that lose the war in He wasn’t even in the Senate
Iraq – by losing, the countless during that vote.
Iraqi’s who helped our efforts Joe Biden voted for the war. So
would face certain death. The area did Hillary Clinton and all other
would be unstable and ripe for an Democrat and Republican
increase in terrorist activity. candidates. The catch was: if
there was proof of Weapons of
mass destruction. The rest as you
know was a manipulation by G.W.
Bush and his administration.
Has voted in every Senate election, Has voted 10 times “present” – no
with a either a “yay” or “nay” vote. vote cast as “yay” or “nay” He has
Voted while running for President. Not voted while running for
President.
Remember Obama’s gaffe
Saying that he was going to
“campaign in all 57 states”?
The media chalked it up to
Obama’s fatigue on the campaign
trail. I think a more telling reason
is this:
From the International
Humanist and Ethical Union.
and here is how the second paragraph of an article on that website begins.
“Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the United Nations Commission on human rights called combating.”
Social Issues:
McCain Obama
Stated that he will never overturn Talks about “change” a lot.
Roe V. Wade Aside from Driver’s licenses
For illegal aliens, I have not
Continually reaches across the aisle heard him state a specific plan
with Democrats and Independents on any issue. Although lately, he
to bring legislation to benefit has been adopting Hillary Clinton’s
the working class. Platform.
He is called a “maverick” for a reason. He used sexism to further his
He is frequently at odds with the conservative campaign.
Base. He and George W. Bush have a history of
animosity because McCain disagrees with most He stated he was the agent of
of Bush’s policies. “change”, yet he bi-passed Hillary
Clinton as his VP and selected old
Continually reaches out to the female voters. He has school, Joe Biden. Biden has since
established a committee to hear what is important stated that Hillary Clinton was
to women now. The New Agenda, a non-partisan more qualified than he, and that
women’s group formed as an effort to combat misogyny Obama should have picked her.
and bias in the media following the assault on Hillary Clinton,
has met with John McCain and Carly Fiorina on several occasions. Obama has not furthered the cause
The New Agenda now endorses him. for women. He has not made an
effort to reach out to the disen-
McCain selected a woman running mate. Not just any woman. franchised Clinton voters. Instead,
A Governor with 2 years executive experience – supporter Donna Brazile has stated: more experience than Obama has – with an 80% approval “We don’t need those people.” rating in a state populated by largely men
and that borders two foreign countries.
Sarah Palin is a reformer. She cut spending in her Obama assured Democrats he
state, she balanced the state budget, she broke up would support the FISA Bill.
the partisan (on both sides) old boy network. He ended up voting against it.
contrary to Obama attacks, she does not endorse Could it be because donations
that rape victims pay for exams and her administration were in short supply after Clinton
has never charged a woman for one. Her was forced out of the race, and Republican predecessor did. She abolished the practice. this influenced democratic
She also sold his private jet on Ebay – making a profit donors? The DNC was worried
and fired the personal chef. That they would not have the funds
to pay for the Democratic
Contrary to Obama’s attacks, she increased the budget convention. Did you know that
for contraception and sex education for women AT&T subsidized the convention?
in her state by 300%. Could that be the reason Obama
changed his position? Is this what
She has stated she will not overturn Roe V. Wade. Obama means about change?
She has never made any policy to restrict a woman’s right to Obama cannot decide if he thinks
choose in her state. The surge is working – he has
refused to answer this question
She has never influenced any public policy based on her directly.
religious beliefs.
McCain supported the surge. Obama refuses to comment on the surge.
McCain agreed to public financing. Obama agreed to public financing, and then
changed his mind.
McCain supports free trade. Obama told the American people that
NAFTA wasn’t good for our country.
A few days later, Obama’s financial advisor
Told the Canadian government that they
need not fear a change in NAFTA under an
Obama presidency as it was “just political
posturing.”
John McCain suspended the first The Democratic Convention greek stage
night of the Republican Convention and light show cost 6 million dollars.
out of respect to the communities
facing the onslaught of hurricane Obama decided not to host Saturday Night
Gustav. Live a week ago out of respect of the other
hurricane.
McCain selected a running mate Obama called Middle Americans
who is of Middle Class, attends “bitter” and that they “clinged to
Church and who hunts. guns and religion.
When speaking in front of a group Obama never once stopped his
of supporters, a woman called supporters from making sexist
Hillary Clinton a “bitch” McCain remarks against Hillary Clinton.
publicly chastised her. Take for instance, the “Bros b4 Ho’s”
T-shirt his campaign sold.
The Republican Party rallied around
Sarah Palin and called for a halt when The Democratic Party did nothing
The mainstream media began the to quell the sexist attacks against
sexist attacks that plagued Hillary Hillary Clinton. The DNC called
Clinton’s campaign. for Clinton to drop out of the race when she was still winning in large states (Texas, Ohio & Pennsylvania). The rules and bylaws of DNC primary process was manipulated
several times to ensure that Obama was
selected.
Mathematician, Dr. Lynette Long has
compiled statistics showing the Caucus
fraud that was perpetrated in Texas. Sworn
testimony was given by poll workers to the
State election committee that Obama
supporters who were paid, and bussed into
several large urban communities intentionally submitted caucus roll call ledgers containing the names of deceased people and phony names and addresses. Several pages were written in the same hand writing, instead of the individual voters signatures as required by Texas law. Clinton voters testified that they were intimidated by Obama’s staffers, locked out of their caucus voting rooms and their tally sheets were stolen.
Obama and his staff is affiliated with
ACORN, an organization devoted to
registering urban and inner city residents
to vote. ACORN has been under Federal
investigation for voter fraud in several
states, including: Washington, Nevada,
New Mexico, Virginia, West Virginia,
and Ohio. Right now, Ohio election
Officials are trying to substantiate thousands
Of new voter registrations submitted by
ACORN, they have already discovered
Hundreds of fraudulent registrations.
Obama has been quoted as saying:
“You can tell the kind of Presidency a
candidate will have by looking at his
campaign.”
McCain introduced the Federal Housing Enterprise Barack Obama opposed the Act.
Regulatory Reform Act in 2005 that, if it had passed,
could have helped avert the current Fanny/Freddie crisis.
McCain (in his speech when he pushed for the Act) was
prophetic in foreseeing what may happen without
regulation and warning of the risk in not reforming
the F/F enterprises. This initiative, had it passed Obama and Biden both voted AGAINST
would have also created an oversight entity in HUD this legislation. Democrats are trying to
to monitor loan practices. Place blame on Republicans. The respons-
ibility for our current economic trouble
falls squarely on the shoulders of the Bush
administration and the Democratic congress.
John McCain has been reaching out to Independents Barack Obama instructed a group of
And Hillary Clinton supporters. supporters in Ohio to “get in the face”
Of people who were undecided.
Obama and Biden are promising to
spend $50 billion on a United Nations anti-poverty program that critics say will drive up American debt. The program is one of eight sweeping “Millennium Development Goals” the U.N. adopted in 2000.
Between 1989 and 2008, of the 300+ lawmakers who received money from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac, Barack
Obama is the second largest recipient, and he was only in the senate for 3 of those years. His take was over $500,000.00.
McCain pays his female and male staffers the same Obama pays females staffers less than
Wages. their male counterparts, .78 cents to
Dollar earned by males.
For more on the difference between John McCain and Barack Obama:
Why is Barack Obama, a first term Senator pulling down almost $300,000 a year from Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Countrywide Financial, and Washington Mutual? He has not even completed his fourth year in the Senate and received a total of $1,093,329.00 from these eight companies and their employees. (all data from OpenSecrets.org). John McCain’s numbers, according to OpenSecrets.org for the period 1990-2008 (i.e., 18 years worth of data) only collected $549,584.00. In other words, Barack is receiving $273,582.25 (and 2008 is not over) per year while McCain raised a paltry $30,532.44. Here is another concerning fact: Barack Obama has received more from one source–Goldman Sachs $542,252.00–than McCain has from all of the companies combined. With that information in mind, ask yourself who is more beholden to lobbyists? And why does a junior Senator from Illinois rate this kind of money?
Still think the Bush Administration is to blame for the problems with the economy and Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress can solve them? Read this from the Wall Street Journal, Sept. 23, 2008:
“Blame Fannie Mae and Congress”
By CHARLES W. CALOMIRIS and PETER J. WALLISON
Many monumental errors and misjudgments contributed to the acute financial turmoil in which we now find ourselves. Nevertheless, the vast accumulation of toxic mortgage debt that poisoned the global financial system was driven by the aggressive buying of subprime and Alt-A mortgages, and mortgage-backed securities, by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The poor choices of these two government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) — and their sponsors in Washington — are largely to blame for our current mess.
How did we get here? Let’s review: In order to curry congressional support after their accounting scandals in 2003 and 2004, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac committed to increased financing of “affordable housing.” They became the largest buyers of subprime and Alt-A mortgages between 2004 and 2007, with total GSE exposure eventually exceeding $1 trillion. In doing so, they stimulated the growth of the subpar mortgage market and substantially magnified the costs of its collapse.
It is important to understand that, as GSEs, Fannie and Freddie were viewed in the capital markets as government-backed buyers (a belief that has now been reduced to fact). Thus they were able to borrow as much as they wanted for the purpose of buying mortgages and mortgage-backed securities. Their buying patterns and interests were followed closely in the markets. If Fannie and Freddie wanted subprime or Alt-A loans, the mortgage markets would produce them. By late 2004, Fannie and Freddie very much wanted subprime and Alt-A loans. Their accounting had just been revealed as fraudulent, and they were under pressure from Congress to demonstrate that they deserved their considerable privileges. Among other problems, economists at the Federal Reserve and Congressional Budget Office had begun to study them in detail, and found that — despite their subsidized borrowing rates — they did not significantly reduce mortgage interest rates. In the wake of Freddie’s 2003 accounting scandal, Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan became a powerful opponent, and began to call for stricter regulation of the GSEs and limitations on the growth of their highly profitable, but risky, retained portfolios.
If they were not making mortgages cheaper and were creating risks for the taxpayers and the economy, what value were they providing? The answer was their affordable-housing mission. So it was that, beginning in 2004, their portfolios of subprime and Alt-A loans and securities began to grow. Subprime and Alt-A originations in the U.S. rose from less than 8% of all mortgages in 2003 to over 20% in 2006. During this period the quality of subprime loans also declined, going from fixed rate, long-term amortizing loans to loans with low down payments and low (but adjustable) initial rates, indicating that originators were scraping the bottom of the barrel to find product for buyers like the GSEs.
The strategy of presenting themselves to Congress as the champions of affordable housing appears to have worked. Fannie and Freddie retained the support of many in Congress, particularly Democrats, and they were allowed to continue unrestrained. Rep. Barney Frank (D., Mass), for example, now the chair of the House Financial Services Committee, openly described the “arrangement” with the GSEs at a committee hearing on GSE reform in 2003: “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have played a very useful role in helping to make housing more affordable . . . a mission that this Congress has given them in return for some of the arrangements which are of some benefit to them to focus on affordable housing.” The hint to Fannie and Freddie was obvious: Concentrate on affordable housing and, despite your problems, your congressional support is secure.
In light of the collapse of Fannie and Freddie, both John McCain and Barack Obama now criticize the risk-tolerant regulatory regime that produced the current crisis. But Sen. McCain’s criticisms are at least credible, since he has been pointing to systemic risks in the mortgage market and trying to do something about them for years. In contrast, Sen. Obama’s conversion as a financial reformer marks a reversal from his actions in previous years, when he did nothing to disturb the status quo. The first head of Mr. Obama’s vice-presidential search committee, Jim Johnson, a former chairman of Fannie Mae, was the one who announced Fannie’s original affordable-housing program in 1991 — just as Congress was taking up the first GSE regulatory legislation.
In 2005, the Senate Banking Committee, then under Republican control, adopted a strong reform bill, introduced by Republican Sens. Elizabeth Dole, John Sununu and Chuck Hagel, and supported by then chairman Richard Shelby. The bill prohibited the GSEs from holding portfolios, and gave their regulator prudential authority (such as setting capital requirements) roughly equivalent to a bank regulator. In light of the current financial crisis, this bill was probably the most important piece of financial regulation before Congress in 2005 and 2006. All the Republicans on the Committee supported the bill, and all the Democrats voted against it. Mr. McCain endorsed the legislation in a speech on the Senate floor. Mr. Obama, like all other Democrats, remained silent.
Now the Democrats are blaming the financial crisis on “deregulation.” This is a canard. There has indeed been deregulation in our economy — in long-distance telephone rates, airline fares, securities brokerage and trucking, to name just a few — and this has produced much innovation and lower consumer prices. But the primary “deregulation” in the financial world in the last 30 years permitted banks to diversify their risks geographically and across different products, which is one of the things that has kept banks relatively stable in this storm.
As a result, U.S. commercial banks have been able to attract more than $100 billion of new capital in the past year to replace most of their subprime-related write-downs. Deregulation of branching restrictions and limitations on bank product offerings also made possible bank acquisition of Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch, saving billions in likely resolution costs for taxpayers.
If the Democrats had let the 2005 legislation come to a vote, the huge growth in the subprime and Alt-A loan portfolios of Fannie and Freddie could not have occurred, and the scale of the financial meltdown would have been substantially less. The same politicians who today decry the lack of intervention to stop excess risk taking in 2005-2006 were the ones who blocked the only legislative effort that could have stopped it.
Mr. Calomiris is a professor of finance and economics at Columbia Business School and a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. Mr. Wallison, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, was general counsel of the Treasury Department in the Reagan administration.
And in summary (with help from NO QUARTER):
After winning his U.S. Senate seat, Barack Obama stated that he would not run for President, citing lack of experience and the need to begin running the moment he had just become a Senator. He has precisely 143 days of work experience as a U.S. Senator under his belt and now presumes to be prepared to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief. Since when do we elect neophytes for President?
Obama has never remained in any single job or position for any length of time to actually make a contribution. Where do his convictions lie: With those he is slated to serve, or with his own personal ambitions?
Obama has no history of being a so-called “uniter”. His voting record reveals a pattern of digging in or not voting. He does not find common ground in order to gain consensus, unify, and get legislation passed. With no track record of doing so, how does he plan to unite this great country and a highly polarized Washington?
Obama has not sponsored a single piece of legislation during his term as a U.S. Senator. Why should this man be President if he hasn’t even made a mark as a U.S. Senator?
Obama has changed his position on numerous serious issues, including abortion, gun control, Iraq troop withdrawal, campaign financing, taxes, and FISA while also embracing Bush’s faith based initiatives. Why should anyone trust what he says if he changes his mind so often on substantive issues?
Obama was the only Senator to vote “yes” on a bill that would allow babies born alive due to failed abortions to be left to die. And he did so three times (state and federal votes combined). Even passionately pro-choice Senators voted “no” on this bill. Why would anyone condone such barbaric behavior as infanticide?
Obama’s word cannot be trusted. In addition to his flip-flopping on issues, he has a proven propensity to go back on his word or blatantly lie. In 1996 he went back on his word to Alice Palmer. In 2004, he went back on his word to the American people that he would not run for President, by immediately running for President. If someone proves their willingness to go back on their word, how can you trust them regarding anything they say, particularly when there is so little evidence of achievement to go on and all we have IS their word?
Obama also has a history of affiliating himself with questionable characters, including convicted felons and terrorists. Once exposed, he either claims innocence or minimizes these relationships. He publicly stated he was unaware of Wright’s hateful rants, despite having embraced Wright as a father figure while sitting in the pews of his church for 20 years. While trying to prove to the American public that he was Christian (a point which is neither here nor there), Obama stated his weekly devotion to attend Sunday church services. Once Wright became a controversial issue, Obama started to back peddle regarding how often he went to church services. So which is it? Every week or rarely? And what of someone who takes on as a father figure a man who honors Farrakhan with a Lifetime Achievement Award? Surely there are countless great men and women in the black community worthy of such an honor. Is not the selection of Farrakhan a telling and important piece of information?
When asked about his relationship with Rashid Khalidi, Obama brushed it off as one simply based on the coincidence of them both teaching at Columbia and having children who attend the same school, when in truth, he and Khalidi have scratched each others backs in mutually beneficial ways over the years. How can you trust someone who consciously minimizes a relationship with a former terrorist who was affiliated with the PLO and what do you make of someone having such associations?
Obama claimed innocence about Tony Rezko while receiving large sums of money to support his campaigns and became entangled with him personally over his home and land purchase. Why should you put stock in Obama’s claims to care about Americans when he ignored so many impoverished families living in sub-standard housing in his Illinois congressional district and, to add insult to injury, was in the pocket of the slumlord of those building?
Obama has a history of developing relationships with individuals who express through their words and actions profoundly anti-American sentiments, including Bill Ayers, a terrorist who built bombs that killed fellow Americans and who, to this day, remains unrepentant. Why should anyone have a shot at becoming the President who has affiliated himself with the likes of Bill Ayers?
Obama routinely expresses a confused understanding of history, including his own personal history, noting that he is the product of the march on Selma, despite the fact that he was born four years prior to the march. Why would you accept a candidate who is so willing to distort facts and manipulate public perception in this way?
Obama appears to feel he is above the fray and undeserving of scrutiny, despite applying for the job of the highest office in the country. He routinely scolds the press when they asked him a question or scolds his opponent if he feels at all attacked. How in the world will this man handle the very real and dangerous threats that exist in the world if he appears to lack the fortitude to withstand media scrutiny and attacks made by his opponent during the campaign?
Obama claims a desire to reach as many people as possible, yet declines invitations from the McCain campaign for additional debates. Since the best way to reach the most people is on national television, why support a candidate who prefers to minimize such exposure? In addition, given his claims about energy use and energy policy, why support a candidate who prefers to jet around the country consuming enormous amounts of fuel, when he could sign up for more debates, use less fuel, and reach more people?
Obama speaks of equal pay for equal work, yet pays his female staffers 83 cents on the dollar as compared to male staffers. In addition, among his top 5 most highly paid aids, only 1 is a woman. Among his top 20, only 13 are women. Why support a candidate who talks the talk, but appears not to walk the walk?
There is mounting evidence of voter fraud and intimidation in all caucus states during the primaries that benefited Obama’s campaign. For more information visit http://clintondems.com/ to see video taped testimony and http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/ for written documentation. Is it acceptable to elect to the office of President of the United States a man who quite likely stole the election within his own, co-opting party?
Obama is willing to sit down with leaders of enemy nations. In these dangerous times, can we afford to have an inexperienced President with no international experience and with a stated willingness to sit down with our enemies without precondition? Do you grasp the implications of what could happen with just one misstep, one misjudgment, one naïve, and wrong choice?
And from the Wall Street Journal, a detailed explanation of Weatherman Terrorist William Myers and his relationship with Barack Obama:
“Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools”
By STANLEY KURTZ, September 23, 2008
Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.
Bill Ayers.
The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama’s first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers’s home.
The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” and “not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis.” Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I’ve recently spent days looking through them.
The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago’s public schools. The funding came from a national education initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation’s other key body, the “Collaborative,” which shaped education policy.
The CAC’s basic functioning has long been known, because its annual reports, evaluations and some board minutes were public. But the Daley archive contains additional board minutes, the Collaborative minutes, and documentation on the groups that CAC funded and rejected. The Daley archives show that Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda.
One unsettled question is how Mr. Obama, a former community organizer fresh out of law school, could vault to the top of a new foundation? In response to my questions, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. Ayers had nothing to do with Obama’s “recruitment” to the board. The statement says Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham (presidents of other foundations) recruited him. Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.
The CAC’s agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers’s educational philosophy, which called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism. In the mid-1960s, Mr. Ayers taught at a radical alternative school, and served as a community organizer in Cleveland’s ghetto.
In works like “City Kids, City Teachers” and “Teaching the Personal and the Political,” Mr. Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression. His preferred alternative? “I’m a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist,” Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk’s, “Sixties Radicals,” at about the same time Mr. Ayers was forming CAC.
CAC translated Mr. Ayers’s radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with “external partners,” which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).
Mr. Obama once conducted “leadership training” seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama’s early campaigns. External partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education. CAC’s in-house evaluators comprehensively studied the effects of its grants on the test scores of Chicago public-school students. They found no evidence of educational improvement.
CAC also funded programs designed to promote “leadership” among parents. Ostensibly this was to enable parents to advocate on behalf of their children’s education. In practice, it meant funding Mr. Obama’s alma mater, the Developing Communities Project, to recruit parents to its overall political agenda. CAC records show that board member Arnold Weber was concerned that parents “organized” by community groups might be viewed by school principals “as a political threat.” Mr. Obama arranged meetings with the Collaborative to smooth out Mr. Weber’s objections.
The Daley documents show that Mr. Ayers sat as an ex-officio member of the board Mr. Obama chaired through CAC’s first year. He also served on the board’s governance committee with Mr. Obama, and worked with him to craft CAC bylaws. Mr. Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Mr. Obama. Mr. Ayers spoke for the Collaborative before the board. Likewise, Mr. Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the Collaborative.
The Obama campaign notes that Mr. Ayers attended only six board meetings, and stresses that the Collaborative lost its “operational role” at CAC after the first year. Yet the Collaborative was demoted to a strictly advisory role largely because of ethical concerns, since the projects of Collaborative members were receiving grants. CAC’s own evaluators noted that project accountability was hampered by the board’s reluctance to break away from grant decisions made in 1995. So even after Mr. Ayers’s formal sway declined, the board largely adhered to the grant program he had put in place.
Mr. Ayers’s defenders claim that he has redeemed himself with public-spirited education work. That claim is hard to swallow if you understand that he views his education work as an effort to stoke resistance to an oppressive American system. He likes to stress that he learned of his first teaching job while in jail for a draft-board sit-in. For Mr. Ayers, teaching and his 1960s radicalism are two sides of the same coin.
Mr. Ayers is the founder of the “small schools” movement (heavily funded by CAC), in which individual schools built around specific political themes push students to “confront issues of inequity, war, and violence.” He believes teacher education programs should serve as “sites of resistance” to an oppressive system. (His teacher-training programs were also CAC funded.) The point, says Mr. Ayers in his “Teaching Toward Freedom,” is to “teach against oppression,” against America’s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.
The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming “guilt by association.” Yet the issue here isn’t guilt by association; it’s guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.
Mr. Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
Is Obama the Manchurian Candidate?
How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States ? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota?
By Ted Belman
Is Obama a Manchurian candidate? Rich Carroll, The Jihad Candidate, Barry ‘Barak Hussein’ Obama, certainly thinks so or at least makes the case for it. I certainly don’t subscribe to the conspiracy, so called, but I do accept the facts as set out therein.
Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. ‘The Manchurian Candidate’ and ‘Seven Days in May’ are examples of plausible chains of events that captures the reader’s imagination at best-seller level. ‘What if’ has always been the solid grist of fiction…
Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but before you continue, visualize the television photos of two jet airliners smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years…
Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a ‘freedom fighter’ when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya ‘S history. Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa , a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile…
Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barak Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of ‘racism’…
Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim Middle East connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa…
Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as ‘bigoted racism’; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs…
Where is the bloodhound American ‘free press’ who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case? Where are our nation’s reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush’s ‘Skull and Bones’ club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work? Why haven’t ‘newsmen’ pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the presidential primaries? Where are the stories about this candidate’s cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa? Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent?
Why haven’t they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this ‘out of nowhere’ Democrat candidate or that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his ‘close pastor friend and mentor’ met with Middle East terrorist Moammar Gaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)? Why isn’t the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?
As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history. Why has the American main stream media clammed-up on any negative reporting on Barack Hussein Obama? Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton’s name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name? Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from main stream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth? Why isn’t our media connecting the dots with Islam? Why do they focus on ‘those bad American soldiers’ while Islam slaughters non-Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer to Darfur as ‘ethnic cleansing’ instead of what it really is; Muslims killing non-Muslims! There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barack Hussein Obama to peek the curiosity of any reporter. Where is our investigative media?
A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohamed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. ‘The process of settlement’ of Muslims in America, Akram explained, ‘is a civilization jihad process.’ This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in ‘America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.’
There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings-forth a volley of ‘racist’ from the left-wing Democrat crowd…
Lies and deception behind a master plan – the ingredients for ‘The Manchurian Candidate’ or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation’s White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States? Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to dis-arm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?
Change for America? What change? To become another ‘nation of Islam’…
He followed this up with:
A Story About a Man Applying for a Job, The Jihad Candidate II, Rich Carroll
Imagine for a few moments that you are the human resources director of a major multi-billion dollar corporation. You are sitting in your large, luxurious office when you receive a phone call from the Chairman of the Board of Directors.
He tells you that the board is considering a candidate for a high-level executive position. He advises you to complete a thorough background investigation and have it to him within 10 days.
You immediately call the private detective agency you have used for years and give them the name and address of the prospective candidate, along with the deadline for a high-level security clearance.
Your next move is to call your assistant to your office, giving him/her the candidate’s personal information along with instructions to “do your standard beginning background checks.”
Preliminary findings begin landing in your fax machine on the third day:
* Your candidate has used more than one name.
* His original birth certificate is unavailable.
* He was mentored during his youth by a high level communist in Hawaii, Frank Marshall Davis.
* You receive a 3-page dossier on Frank Marshall Davis.
* You also learn the candidate was proctored into an elite eastern private university by a Middle Eastern Muslim, Khalid al-Mansour.
* You receive a short dossier on Khalid al-Mansour.
* You learn the candidate has terrorist organization “Nations of Islam” employees on his current staff, and one of his advisors is a member of the global terrorist group “Muslim Brotherhood.”
On day four, you receive in the mail from the security agency two books the candidate has written:
* You read both books, highlighting the anti-American, anti-white racist passages.
* You note the admissions of drug use.
* You also receive in the packet a copy of the bitter anti-white thesis his wife wrote as a college undergraduate.
* You receive a 4 page fax on the candidate’s relative, Raila Odinga, who is connected with brutal Muslim politics in Africa, and background information on the candidate’s estranged father who was part of Kenya’s most corrupt regime.
The fifth day brings to your special delivery mail the complete background on Bill Ayers; his association with your candidate, his FBI criminal record, and a copy of the book “Rules for Radicals” written by communist Saul Alinsky:
* You are advised your candidate used tactics from “Rules for Radicals” at his previous employment.
* You are advised the candidate’s wife used an excerpt from this book during a recent speech.
* You receive by fax, a background on A.C.O.R.N. and an alert that this group is being watched by the U.S. Department of Justice and other state and local law enforcement agencies.
* You learn your candidate is endorsed by every Muslim terrorist organization on Earth; that he holds Muslim beliefs.
* His friend, Louis Farrakhan, is head of Nations of Islam.
* You learn that the candidate’s pastor met with global terrorist Mohmmar Gaddafi in Libya, along with their mutual friend and anti-American Louis Farrakhan.
* You receive printed transcripts of his pastor’s anti-White, anti-American “sermons” and are advised your candidate has been close personal friends with this “pastor” for two decades.
* Your candidate has referred to this radical pastor as his “personal spiritual advisor,” and in fact, the title of one of your candidates memoirs was inspired by a line from this pastor’s “sermons.”
In your fax machine on the sixth morning is a file on one Tony Rezko:
* His friendship, associations and business transactions with your candidate, as well as high level “people” of middle eastern origin, and his federal conviction.
You will spend most of day seven compiling a file on the candidate, The Obama File, complete with footnotes and cross references.
* Additional information is arriving regarding the candidate’s friends and acquaintances during college.
* You learn that he did not run with a mainstream crowd, but chose radicals and communist agitators for his social group.
The morning of the eighth day has arrived and you and your assistant have placed a small mountain of background information into manageable “piles” – including photographs of the candidate’s family in Africa, he and George Soros (including a brief file on the Soros “Open Society Institute”), photos of the candidate and Louis Farrakhan and anti-Israel Arafat advisor Edward Said.
You begin to outline and write your “Summary Evaluation” to the Chairman of the Board of Directors:
* This candidate has a tissue thin work experience resume.
* He has not managed large groups of personnel, departments, material, or P&L statements.
* This candidate’s own writing exhibits a deep-seeded anger and resentment towards people of the Caucasian race over the issue of slavery.
* His emotional gravitas is centered upon his African heritage, and his belief that the white man is responsible for global poverty and unequal sharing of wealth.
* The candidate’s personal associations since childhood have been mostly with radical African Americans, Muslims, and communists; those who harbor anger towards The United States of America.
* Particularly disturbing is his lengthy relationship with Bill Ayers, an unrepentant Weatherman radical who bombed government buildings and abdicated the overthrow of the United States.
* Given the current global situation of nearly twelve thousand Muslim acts of terrorism since 911, it is disturbing to find his close associations with Muslim groups, MAFO2008.com.
* I have highlighted passages in both books and find one particularly disturbing: “Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction I will side with the Muslims.”
* The candidate has surrounded himself with anti-American grievance mongers, and appears to manipulate “typical white people” by appealing to their guilt about slavery.
* He is a socialist, and totally disenfranchised from the history of “root America.”
* The candidate refuses to discuss his years at Columbia University, although he lived off campus and made few friends.
* He will not release his application to the state bar notes, which raises questions on several issues including the use of drugs.
* Very little is available about his experience with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation that spent $100 million with no discernible benefit for the schools and students that it was putatively designed to help.
It is therefore my strongest recommendation this candidate not be considered for any position within the corporation.
And my favorite editorial from Real Clear Politics:
September 24, 2008
Media Campaigns Hard for Obama
By Tony Blankley
The mainstream media have gone over the line and are now straight-out propagandists for the Obama campaign. While they have been liberal and blinkered in their worldview for decades, in 2007-08, for the first time, the major media consciously are covering for one candidate for president and consciously are knifing the other. This is no longer journalism; it is simply propaganda. (The American left-wing version of the Völkischer Beobachter cannot be far behind.)
And as a result, we are less than seven weeks away from possibly electing a president who has not been thoroughly or even halfway honestly presented to the country by our watchdogs — the press. The image of Obama that the press has presented to the public is not a fair approximation of the real man. They consciously have ignored whole years of his life and have shown a lack of curiosity about such gaps, which bespeaks a lack of journalistic instinct.
Thus, the public image of Obama is of a “man who never was.”
I take that phrase from a 1956 movie about a real-life World War II British intelligence operation to trick the Germans into thinking the Allies were going to invade Greece rather than Sicily in 1943. Operation Mincemeat involved the acquisition of a human corpse dressed as “Major William Martin, R.M.,” which was put into the sea near Spain. Attached to the corpse was a briefcase containing fake letters suggesting that the Allied attack would be against Sardinia and Greece.
To make the operation credible, British intelligence concocted a fictional life for the corpse, creating a letter from a lover and tickets to a London theater — all the details of a life, but not the actual life of the dead young man whose corpse was being used. So, too, the man the media have presented to the nation as Obama is not the real man.
The mainstream media ruthlessly and endlessly repeat any McCain gaffes while ignoring Obama gaffes. You have to go to weird little Web sites to see all the stammering and stuttering that Obama needs before getting out a sentence fragment or two. But all you see on the networks is an eventually clear sentence from Obama. You don’t see Obama’s ludicrous gaffe that Iran is a tiny country and no threat to us. Nor his 57 American states gaffe. Nor his forgetting, if he ever knew, that Russia has a veto in the U.N. Nor his whining and puerile “come on” when he is being challenged. This is the kind of editing one would expect from Goebbels’ disciples, not Cronkite’s.
More appalling, a skit on NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” last weekend suggested that Gov. Palin’s husband had sex with his own daughters. That show was written with the assistance of Al Franken, Democratic Party candidate in Minnesota for the U.S. Senate. Talk about incest.
But worse than all the unfair and distorted reporting and image projecting are the shocking gaps in Obama’s life that are not reported at all. The major media simply have not reported on Obama’s two years at New York’s Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers. Later, they both ended up as neighbors and associates in Chicago. Obama denies more than a passing relationship with Ayers. Should the media be curious? In only two weeks, the media have focused on all the colleges Gov. Palin has attended, her husband’s driving habits 20 years ago, and the close criticism of the political opponents Gov. Palin had when she was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
But in two years, they haven’t bothered to see how close Obama was with the terrorist Ayers.
Nor have the media paid any serious attention to Obama’s rise in Chicago politics. How did honest Obama rise in the famously sordid Chicago political machine with the full support of Boss Daley? Despite the great — and unflattering — details on Obama’s Chicago years presented in David Freddoso’s new book on Obama, the mainstream media continue to ignore both the facts and the book. It took a British publication, The Economist, to give Freddoso’s book a review with fair comment.
The public image of Obama as an idealistic, post-race, post-partisan, well-spoken and honest young man with the wisdom and courage befitting a great national leader is a confection spun by a willing conspiracy of Obama, his publicist (David Axelrod) and most of the senior editors, producers and reporters of the national media.
Perhaps that is why the National Journal’s respected correspondent Stuart Taylor wrote, “The media can no longer be trusted to provide accurate and fair campaign reporting and analysis.”
That conspiracy not only has Photoshopped out all of Obama’s imperfections (and dirtied up his opponent McCain’s image) but also has put most of his questionable history down the memory hole.
The public will be voting based on the idealized image of the man who never was. If he wins, however, we will be governed by the sunken, cynical man Obama really is. One can only hope that the senior journalists will be judged as harshly for their professional misconduct as Wall Street’s leaders currently are for their failings.
Copyright 2008, Creators Syndicate Inc.
Laurey – If it’s 11 pages, it probably needs to be edited way down, anyway to have any chance of someone actually reading it. Why don’t you post the first page, unless the first half is all about one candidate and the last half is about the other. Or is it split down the center in two columns? (If so, I doubt that formatting would show up on the blog format.)
Anna, there it is. The first few pages did not post the way the word document is set up, with McCain and Obama info side by side on the page.
Yes, that is a good point. I could have a one page quick fact list and include the rest for people who want to dealve more deeply.
Laurey – I copied it into a word doc and will take a look tomorrow. Have you checked out my talking points in the AC? Even those, however, take up nearly 2 pages and I’ve been trying to edit it to fit on one. Lemme take a very quick glance at what you’ve done to see if any general things jump out at me. BRB.
Uh oh. It’s a mess. The text that you had formatted into 2 coumns didn’t translate when I pasted it into a word document, so it’s like a wierd blend of half sentences that pops from one candidate to the other and back and forth. Makes no sense as it appears on the page. F***.
I think your idea is great because you’re not only making the case against Obama, but also making the case for McCain. That could be a very effective tool for undecided voters. Damn, I wish I could make sense of it, but I can’t.
Hey, where’d you go?
Laurey – It’s been about 15 minutes since your last post. Don’t know if you left or if you’re lost in the Action Center, or what. I’m going to sign off. Sorry I couldn’t read what you wrote. You’ve obviously spent a lot of time putting it together. All I can say is:
1. Try to edit it to maximize your chances of someone reading it.
2. Prioritize your issues. There’s so much on Obama and we want to talk about all of it. But, too much can overwhelm someone, so pick the one’s you think are most important and dump the rest.
3. Speak in a consistent tense. It breaks the flow if you move back and forth between past and present tense.
4. Avoid anything that is purely speculation. Stick to the facts. (There are plenty.)
5. One way of reducing the amount of text without losing content is to edit your text and refer the reader to a link that will give them more info should they be interested.
That’s all I can think of right now.
Gee, there are perks to late night blogging. You could never post an 11 page piece on the blog during rush hour! This was fun, though I wish I could actually read what you wrote!
Laurey – It’s been about 15 minutes since your last post. Don’t know if you left or if you’re lost in the Action Center, or what. I’m going to sign off. Sorry I couldn’t read what you wrote. You’ve obviously spent a lot of time putting it together. All I can say is:
1. Try to edit it to maximize your chances of someone reading it.
2. Prioritize your issues. There’s so much on Obama and we want to talk about all of it. But, too much can overwhelm someone, so pick the one’s you think are most important and dump the rest.
3. Speak in a consistent tense. It breaks the flow if you move back and forth between past and present tense.
4. Avoid anything that is purely speculation. Stick to the facts. (There are plenty.)
5. One way of reducing the amount of text without losing content is to edit your text and refer the reader to a link that will give them more info should they be interested.
That’s all I can think of right now.
Gee, there are perks to late night blogging. You could never post an 11 page piece on the blog during rush hour! This was fun, though I wish I could actually read what you wrote!
Oh, Lordie. Ending the day with a double post.
Anna – you still up? Was just checking before I put out the light and here you are working away
Now I will have to read up thread and se who got a second wind!
What Are Your Thoughts On Tonight’s Show?? Share Them Right Here …
Sep 25, 2008 … Makes a whole lot more sense than 700 billion to be spent as …. Lindsay Graham just said dems want some of the money to go to Acorn… …
gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/25/what-are-your-thoughts-on-tonights-show…/all-comments/ –
Here’s the google link to the ACORN story, but I can’t get the page to load, check later
The ACORN Poison Pill
By Larry Johnson
Here is the outline of the draft agreement for the bailout:
draft-bailout-agreement.pdf
The problem is in paragraph 3c–it earmarks money for the Capital Magnet Fund. A site, Blogs for McCain, has the story:
In the “agreement in principle,” there is the effect of a major “earmark” which commits money from future “profits” to be given to nonprofits organizations like ACORN, National Council of La Raza and potentially the National Urban League. This agreement clearly evidences that the Government expects to benefit in the future from the bailout when the values of property rises and mortgages or properties are then sold by the Federal government. The agreement –
“Directs a certain percentage of future profits to the Affordable Housing Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund to meet America’s housing needs.”
In the proposed bailout agreement, Sen. Christopher Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee and other Democrats desire to pre-direct that future funds (profits) not be returned to the taxpayers via the treasury but that they be used to underwrite potential questionable (maybe even illegal activities) of certain nonprofits which have had a hand in promoting and expanding access to “no money down” loans for minorities, illegal voter registrations and extensive lobbying activities.
My guess? The Republicans in the House will hold firm and the Dems will have to relent on this point. Earmarks for ACORN won’t fly.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/26/the-acorn-poison-pill/
Even the nutbirds are freaking out on DailyKos…
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Graham On Greta-ACORN Was To Get $140 BILLION (1+ / 0-)
Now you know why Republicans went nuts over this…
by IndianaDemocrat on Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:54:48 PM PDT
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I would feel the same way (1+ / 0-)
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IndianaDemocrat
I know that this opinion is heresy, but I wouldn’t give ACORN 140 Billion either.
by oceanstar17 on Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:59:36 PM PDT
Katinyouhat…you still up too?
#428 kat in your hat on 09.26.08 at 3:57 am
The ACORN Poison Pill
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Good find. I posted it on the Drudge.
Hi, just woke up from a nap, here’s some comments about the long post.
~People won’t read something that long, but they WILL read bullet points with a a surprising amount of detailed information.
~Obama just put a nasty attack add on about McCain voting against equal pay for women. Info about the differences between Obama and McCain own employment practices should be at the top. Obama’s female staffers make less for doing the same job! McCain has more female staffers in more responsible positions. He hires women and he pays them.
~People hate special interests and a politician who is bought by lobbyists. The list of corporations buying Obama ..hmm, Obama changed his vote on FISA after all those donations from AT&T, what about all the money from Freddie Mack and Frannny Mae?
Nobamas try to prevent freedom of speech again! Maybe they should take their own advice.
Obama Campaign Cease and Desist Letter
http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/ObamaLetterNRAAd.pdf
good morning pumas
1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09232008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/democrats_ridiculous_scapegoat_130324.htm#comments
Hi all, just checking in to let you know I’m still here, have been having computer problems and spent all day trying to fix them. I copied the 14 reasons and will try and send later today, I’ve been ill, and am very tired, so I’m going to shut down for now and check in later today.
blessings
valleywitch
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I’m experimenting with this indentation-thing.
If I can turn it off.
Economists are recommending that Bush NOT sign the bailout bill! 1000 economists had also warned Hoover not to sign the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act as it was the opinion of most , the Smoot-Hawley act was partially responsible for the severity of the Great Depression.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/21-4
Some more racism – this country is going to be so divided – it is absolutely horrendous.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/florida-congres.html
Well Acorn sent the boys for *61 to my Daughters college.
She told me they gave her a side by side comparison of *61 and McCain.
They told her that these are the facts vote for who you want, but you should know the facts first.
The first thing she read: Obama is going to bring change.
McCain will bring more of the same.
She told her friends that she thought it was insulting her
intelligence to tell her these were the facts, it’s clearly bias based on the first statements she read.
I’m so proud that she doesn’t drink the koolaid.
McCain’s gamble: to respond to his 3 AM call, McCain takes great risks. They may be the only way to move past Obama’s media
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/mccains-gamble/
GO Vote – the O’bots are busy
http://news.aol.com/article/white-house-summit-ends-on-sour-note/187754?icid=200100397x1210062306x1200628005
On the debate tonight – McCain – no deal if we don’t have a deal
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/mccain-theres-no-deal-until-we-have-a-deal/
good morning I went and voted #442 Headclunker
Morning Joe is all over McCain over this bailout, Pat B tried to defend him but Joe wouldn’t stop. Mika ran her mouth (I swear no one listens to her, she mumbles ).
Good Morning PUMAs!!!!
Good morning! Just found an editorial – all about PUMA – but the name never comes up
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/puma-powerwhere-will-the-anti-bush-voters-go/
Notyoursweetie:
Thanks for the link.
Turn on fox now they are going to talk about voter fraud and how the election is being STOLEN how it’s already happening. Right after commerical
I hope McCain can find a way to go tonight. NObama will be there spouting off at the mouth if he does not go.
I think what McCain is doing is a good thing but he needs to put NObama in his place and this debate is a perfect way for him to do that.
So sad but true. Some people will stop at NOTHING to make sure NObama is in the White House.
Voter fraud coming on NOW FOX NEWS!!!!
NObama was ACORNs attorney. WOW.
John Fund is 100% right NObama needs to out and demand that ACORN clean up their act and do things by the book.
I didnt write this, someone on greta’s blogs did
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The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend’s family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India. NOW, It all sounds very innocent, ‘a college trip to Pakistan‘. Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik). Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. There would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981: To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every ‘True Believer‘. For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa. In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace. Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone’s family in 1981.”
BillieJo on 09.26.08 at 1:38 am
You guys would be surprised how many PUMAs and Independents are on McCains blogs. No one I know so far. Their site takes forever to post and has no number to find your place, a nightmare.
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It a 1000% percent better than it was a few months ago, so many are thrilled. I used to post over there, just got too frustrated. I dont know why they dont take it to the next level. crazy.
Is Zogby predicting a McCain landslide?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/zogby-predicting-an-obama-landslide/
BillieJo
There is a Hillary supporter group over there, I joined but havent been so active blogging. Its under groups
I missed the rest of the voter fraud (hopefully not anything important) my son just tells me know (20 mins before the bus comes) he needs a apple and it has to be peeled and cut (no core), so I am running around calling neighbors to see if anyone has a dang apple… Kids…grrrrr. So I missed the rest.
Did anyone see that ad msnbc is running about McCain and his cancer? Fox was just talking about it. Horrible ad, even CNN refuses to run the ad. I wish the repubs. would do ‘prowls’ like us and use their voices more!
tells me now not know sorry…
Failure To Be Real Capitalists Caused Crisis
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=307228725989304
Fox to talk about the VP switch rumor.
I’m sorry but after listening to Palin with Curic I have to conclude I have dug smarter things out of my carrot patch! Where do I go now? I really don’t like the independents so I guess no one is my only choice.
JPMorgan buys WaMu
In the biggest bank failure in history, JPMorgan Chase will acquire massive branch network and troubled assets from Washington Mutual for $1.9 billion.
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Maybe they need to call the CEO’s of JPMOrgan Chase
to the capitol hill and ask them, how did you survive the mass failings? How did you maintain during these times?
Why not start looking at the successes instead of the pure down right negatives of fannie, freddie, aig, etc. etc, go to the people who know how to run a damned business
sue66
No need to say sorry. Afterall we are Americans and we have the right to vote or not.
I like McCain and he will be getting my vote. Palin not my first choice but between her and NObama it makes the choice easy for me.
New Poll up:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/25/aol-straw-poll-sept-25-oct-2
Good Morning Pumas am just getting my caffeine – looks like all were up pretty late last nite.
sue66 – you can get the whole speech on line – carrots and all!!
Palin has had pure propaganda thrown at her left and right since she came on the scene. Katie Curic asks Joe Biden about the crisis and he states that Roosevelt came on tv to discuss this with american. No tv, he wasnt eve President during that period. If Palin had said that, John McCain would have had to send her back to Alaska, the dems get by with murder, and the repubs
take pure progaganda on a minute by minute basis. I would rather have an honest Sarah Palin any day over that lying fraud, (Muslim~ raised) hiding behind rev wright’s church (anti american white hating church) any day of the week.
sue66
All I can say is keep your eyes open in the time until the election. I understand how you feel. I am currently without candidate…So I feel like all I can do is stand up and point and yell loudly when I see something wrong..
Don’t let people make you feel like your position is wrong at all..Your not alone.
Also Mornin Pumas!!
Miguel is back on!
Miguel is spot on … oh, so sweet!!!
472 mick I like him too. That was a great gesture he made!
Hey Sue66 I couldn’t agree with you more that I was a little disappointed in Palin on Couric. When she started to repeat her answer about the guy reclusing himself. I thought that was a regrettable response. IMHO I could only think that she is not preparing herself with the news of the day. Which would only take a few mins. each day. That news about Fannie Mae was totally rejected by McCain. That’s all she had to say. I have heard her speak off the cuff at regular events and she sounds so much more intelligent. I am hoping that the VP debate will solidify her presence.
Fingers crossed.
Top of da morning PUMAs!! How y’all doing?
Me? I’m feeling really, really good about a NObama in Nov.!! I feeling very optimistic today!
NOBAMA!! NOBAMA!! NO HOW!! NO WAY!!
Morning Joe yesterday and fox news both said and a lot of the people they had on, that the question that Katie C asked about accomplishments in the last 26 years was bullsh*t, it wasn’t suppose to be a bio on McCain, they said do you think Al Gore would have been able to name things Clinton did while he was Governor??? I bet not they went on a little more. I guess my point to #464 sue66 I understand what you are saying but if she would just have one fair interview without throwing all this bull crap at her (like Hannitys) then we could see how she really does. They are trying to hard to make her look bad and I guess they did this time.
“Senator McCain has no need to be fearful about a debate,” Obama told reporters. “He’s a person of strong opinions and he’s been expressing them on the campaign trail.”
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dont you just love the way barak defines McCain
and I guess yours are weak opinions mr. obama
someone who has to study for 3 days and today
of course as it’s ongoing. for someone who has some
very strong negative opinions about our country
im sure you might have to study, maybe for the
rest of your natural born life
Sue66 I feel Couric’s question to Palin about regulations was unfair. The only relevant one concerns Fannie and Freddie. Why would Palin know about Washington regulatory minutiae? She’s been dealing with Alaska. It was designed to embarrass her and not to advance understanding of her views.
477 slyt2 my brother is a real politician sleuth and he said he didn’t know if he could have answered that question either. He knows alot of different bills from Dems & Repubs that have passed, but he said he couldn’t tell anyone everything. Plus, they used the 20 second segment she really did not know and put it on TV!
I’ve already seen the above statement on other posts!!
Let’s not forget, Katie Couric’s ratings have not been all that great, but come monday and tuesday night they will go boom, what a crock of shit
Good mourning Pumas
I want to post this be for the dark ages start. lol
Video: The Financial Crisis: Watch It, Email It, Post It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
Good Morning, PUMAs. Here’s a link to an article explaining, in simple terms, what the financial problem is. Maybe we should let all the banks fail and do our lending and our borrowing over the internet – cut out the middle man and all those usurist fees….
http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/not-buying-it.php
Also, driving in to work this AM, I heard a Prof. Steven Lawson of Rutgers speak about how white voters who are not voting for BO are not doing so because of some secret racism, but black voters are not voting for him because they are racist, why, they’ve vote for white folk in the past, so therefore they’re not racist…
I emailed a long rant to NPR listing all the reasons why I wasn’t voting for BO and oddly, none of them had to do with race…
morning all — hey Doria!
Morning horse race thread up –
Today is a new day,
Take it upstairs!
come on now folks.. dont fall for the sexist media trickery ..
you expect perfection from a woman and if she isnt perfect shes not intelligent..but a man,if he doesnt know it all hes amusing or curious but not un-intelligent..
come on now..
#480 1gypsy4mc See that is what I am saying if just one person would just give a fair interview instead of trying to be the one who tripped her up made her look dumb (as some have said) then people could decide on a fair level how prepared she is. I think she is very smart , educated woman but I couldn’t tell you everything she knows because they don’t ask her those important question. It is just stupid.
On a happy note I have been trying for months to get my mother to vote McPalin or stay home. She is 60 and a lifelong democrat. Was behind Hillary but was towing the party line. Me believes she had an email exchange with a puma friend last night and has seen the light of day. Of course she went on to spew all the talking points I have been battering her with for months as if she had never heard.
If you’re on here from Washington Sharon’s son says THANKYOU! My brothers and I were planning on having her committed for that 72 observation thing on Nov 3 as a danger to others(hee hee). So my immediate family alone is 12 dems for McPalin in PA.
I think it is imperative that we continue to share what we read here and on other cites with those we know. We may be rebuffed but if they hear it from you and then again from someone else it just might work. My mother typiclly only watches the local 6 o’clock news which is in the tank for waffles. I think she thought I was just a bitter HRC supporter until she got the same spiel from someone else.
OMG – He (BO) looked SO out of place there. He looked hopeless without his 10,000 staffers telling him what to say and do.
Mccain/Palin all the way, fight for us
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