From the Department of

What Riverdaughter said:

“One of the most insulting outrages is how the Obama contingent continues to use racism as a weapon against us while at the same time setting free the societal restraints against sexism.  Those restraints were already weak.  What we have seen is a pandering to the neanderthal tendencies in men from the left that is no less disgusting and unacceptable than the pandering to the white segregationists of the south by the Republicans since Richard Nixon.  In the process, it is the Obamaphiles who have voted against their own interests by passing on the true leader, a woman, in favor of a man who stroked their egos.”

For some reason this photo is my mental image of Riverdaughter. Is Democracy a woman? As Harold Ickes would say, “You bet your ass she is.”

 

 

And, in case you doubted Riv’s claims of sexist threats, bullying, and condescension, I’m reposting a comment we received yesterday from an enlightened, progressive, liberal Democrat. These sorts of comments are legion on the Boiz Blogz. We only receive a handful these days because the men who anonymously send open letters like this to women have learned they’ll get no quarter here. Their ugly views will NOT be aired, except in cases where we want to expose and mock them.

“As a progressive, I’m stunned by the self delusion and self inflicted destruction on the part of some (few) ill informed Clinton supporters who just can’t get over the fact that their candidate was beaten by a smarter, better prepared candidate. So, in a fit of pique and motivated by overblown and hysterical charges of sexism, you are prepared to vote for John McCain, a guy who cares nothing about women’s issues excepting his readiness to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Some of you even support Sarah Palin though her rightwing radicalism bears no similarity to your own politics. You are voting on gender. So why not Ann Coulter?

The very sad part of your efforts is that in trying to advance a women’s agenda, many of you resorted to racism, traces of which are reflected even in the posts here.

You should be really proud of yourselves. Stupidity has its consequences and I can only hope you or someone you love suffers the adverse consequences of a back alley abortion.”

Yeah, that’s true nitwit. Stupidity DOES have its consequences. Consequences like LOSING IN A LANDSLIDE ON NOVEMBER 4th.

This is an Open Thread while I get my political-economical act together. Be wonderful to each other! And check out the Puma PAC Action Center for PROWL ideas and resources. It’s quite LOVELY!

279 comments ↓

#1 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.24.08 at 10:35 am

8 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.24.08 at 10:28 am

This is who we MUST reach! The people we see everyday on the streets and in our business contacts.

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-the-persuadables
Undecided voters not satisfied with both candidates
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) — With Wall Street in turmoil and the economy in shambles, whichever presidential candidate convinces a swath of persuadable voters that he gets it — and can be trusted to lead the country back to fiscal stability — could well win the White House.

A recent AP-Yahoo! News poll found that 18 percent of likely voters are up for grabs — undecided or willing to change their minds — little more than five weeks before Americans choose between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain.

A large chunk of these voters say they are hurting on a personal level from the country’s economic woes, and, like everyone else, they say the economy is the top issue. Most haven’t decided who would best solve their problems as president; neither candidate has an advantage on handling the economy.

Simply put: Most are looking for a better life and a leader to help make it happen — and most haven’t found what they seek in Obama or McCain.

“There’s a person out there who could inspire change, mend the ways of the system and start fixing the economy, but I don’t think these two are up to the task,” said Rick Villiere, 39, of Saratoga Springs, N.Y. A married father of two children under age 3, he feels the tug of economic turmoil and says: “It’s impossible to get ahead.”

It’s difficult simply to stay afloat, says Cristy Jackson, 29, of Hazel Green, Ala. She’s on disability, her husband was laid off and they have two kids. “I don’t have faith in anyone on the economy,” she says, adding that neither Obama — “not experienced enough” — nor McCain — “he doesn’t care about people like me who are not even middle class” — is likely to help her family.

Tough times, tough crowd………

#2 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 10:38 am

On Bill Ayers’ blog this morning:

“The end of an empire is messy at best
And this empire is ending
Like all the rest
Like the Spanish Armada adrift on the sea
We’re adrift in the land of the brave
And the home of the free
Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.”

#3 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 10:38 am

(When you have a minute…I haven’t finished it yet)

The Trojan Candidate
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/23/the-trojan-candidate/

#4 Grizzly on 09.24.08 at 10:42 am

And a new empire emerges from the old…

First we had the Obama “possum” Presidential seal, then the airplane that replaced the US flag with the Obama logo, then the hand sign making the “O”, and of course, the Greek Columns.

A new empire demands a new coin of the realm. And team Obama now brings you that new tender, already proclaiming Obama’s ascension as out new caesar:

http://www.birminghampost.net/birmingham-business/birmingham-business-news/business-entrepreneurship/2008/09/16/birmingham-firm-strikes-barack-obama-presidential-coin-65233-21832869/

As I recall, it was Julius Caesar who was the first ruler to have his face adorn the coin of the realm.

Hail Caesar!

No, this is not a joke.

#5 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 10:43 am

Osaka I don’t believe for one minute that the economy situation has hurt McCain. I think the polls are a load of BS. The most looked at polls are biased towards Bozo and conflict with state polls and AOL national polls (which, by the way, I have found to be on the mark in the last 3 elections).

#6 Delle on 09.24.08 at 10:44 am

I read The Trojan Candidate.
It’s an excellent piece.
So thoroughly investigated and so well written.
It should be sent around the blogs for everyone to read.
Surely, we will never see it in a newspaper or popular magazine.

Delle

#7 murphy on 09.24.08 at 10:45 am

Grizzly — ugh. if the DONC gets any more tone deaf there’ll be a run on earplugs at Walmart.

#8 murphy on 09.24.08 at 10:46 am

kat in your hat — are you the author of that article??

#9 bythelake on 09.24.08 at 10:48 am

Unbelievable that ANYONE would make a statement like this one on today’s above post….

You should be really proud of yourselves. Stupidity has its consequences and I can only hope you or someone you love suffers the adverse consequences of a back alley abortion.”

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My take, jerks come in all sizes, races and sexes. Good example of one!

#10 indy on 09.24.08 at 10:49 am

#718 Notfollowinthepiedpiper,

McCain has to use Palin in those towns where the economy has eroded and in the swing states. Palin is the only candidate who can relate to everyday people.

Wasn’t “Everday People” a song? Palin should use it as her theme song.

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IMPORTANT:

I don’t know if this was posted yet, but there’s new info from NEWSMAX that Obama’s Harvard tuition may have been partially paid by al Mansour, who at the time was close to the royal family in Saudi Arabia. al Mansour was also a member of the radical Black Panther Party.
NEWSMAX has confirmation in the following article:

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html
Leave a Comment

#11 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 10:50 am

Just in case anyone didn’t get to see any of the new content yesterday..

http://puma-facts.com/ACORN.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/Ohio.aspx
http://puma-facts.com/dont.aspx

I have several more pages I hope to complete today as well.

#12 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 10:52 am

i COPIED THE FOLLOWING JUST IN CASE MURPHY WOULD LIKE TO USE IT AS A HEADER SOMETIME.

http://i3.photoblog.com/photos5/16929-1218654315-25-l.jpg

#13 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 10:52 am

lilibet, LOL!

#14 osaka puma on 09.24.08 at 10:54 am

printing all that money for the bailout will put a band-aid on the gangrening wound ..
the printing presses will be burning up..but gradually killer inflation will have you spending half your check to buy a bag of groceries and the other half on gas and energy….
man the life boats folks.. because thats where were going..take care of your family first or you’re going to wind up on the streets

#15 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 10:55 am

DEEP SOUTH

Thank you. It’s always reassuring to know that someone approves of what you have done.

#16 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 10:56 am

I am also wanting some input on an idea I had. I was searching for ways to make the site more interactive, and it is difficult to do so and protect peoples privacy with my current domain provider.

So I created a section called from the PUMAs. I wanted to make it a place where if people want to write an article, express an opinion, comment on the site, whatever. Pumas can send me a submission through the contact us page and I will publish it on the site.

I hope you all like the idea and that people want to participate, but right now I just kind of want to know if its a dumb idea lol.

#17 Headclunker on 09.24.08 at 10:56 am

Is BO’s response to the Berg Lawsuit due today? Anybody hear from Berg?

#18 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 10:58 am

Caracal it’s a great idea and you should also send the invitation to everyone on the blogroll.

#19 prplvette85 on 09.24.08 at 11:02 am

Good morning Pumas- there is an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this morning, on Ayers and obiteme- Title is Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism on Schools- here is the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html

#20 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:02 am

Media play the race card for NObama.

#21 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 11:03 am

I will check in later. BUT I will be mailing out my envelope I received from the Dems for a donation. It contains Palin fake cash and the flyer by Bellecat regarding he Berg suit.

The majority of Bots don’t know about the Berg suit. I figured if I could just reach one of them, the one that opens the donation email, perhaps that one would tell another and so on. At the very least maybe I could get them to check it out.

I didn’t include any personal info or the return slip so they won’t know who to cross off their mailing list. That way when I get another donation plea I can do it again.

I definately think the Berg flyer would be the most startling to a general Kool aid drinker.

#22 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 11:03 am

Thanks Deep South! I have no idea how to do that, but I shall try and figure it out!

#23 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 11:04 am

I guess I would just go to each site!

#24 osaka puma on 09.24.08 at 11:05 am

All Roads Lead To Hyperinflation
What is this?
Losses and bankruptcies of the major banks that we predicted, trouble for the taxpayer who now shoulder a trillion in debt from bank failures, Why do we have to bail out Wall Street fraud? Lehman Brothers left to expire, We are watching our Zombie economy implode, Buy-outs are just throwing good money after bad, Toxic waste eats your equity capital, eats your stocks, your bonds, and eats your retirement funds. 1929 all over again

#25 PumaDuma on 09.24.08 at 11:05 am

No word from Berg as yet. I’ll check on any progress today. We’ve been covering the BailOut debacle. We have a series over the next few days going on here..

http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/mccain-tells-wall-st-drop-dead/

We’re hoping McCain stands up to Wall St. and just says, “NO”!

We know Obama CAN’T say no because they OWN him. Bambi is waiting for his cues from Nancy Pelosi..before he releases a plan.

#26 mlhath on 09.24.08 at 11:11 am

Reposted from downstairs, because my posting means everyone moves.

As I am one with all on here, Obama will never get my vote. As a life-long Democrat (turned Indy after RBC) I still have many friends asking me how I could vote for McCain?

What about health care?

What about the economy?

What about my retirement?

And I realized that it really is all about the money.

My congressman, Patrick Murphy of PA, sold his vote for @ $18,000 even tho his district went 67-23 for Hillary.

And I was watching fox last night as they were interviewing a man in Fla who was about to lose his home. He was waiting to decide voting based on home bailout.

So…are all votes for sale? Is all voting just an excercise in “I want to get mine”. Is it a matter of degree, or is each one of us for sale?

I also want to provide for my children. I also want healthcare and retirement. But at what cost?

I hope I don’t have a price. I know it’s not 30 pieces of silver.

#27 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 11:11 am

Yes, Caracal! Perhaps you can send the invitation to the site owner asking them to pass it along on their blog or make a post on each blog inviting them yourself!

#28 greenfun on 09.24.08 at 11:11 am

Many of these liberal organizations are simply frustrated that not even on the issue of the economy can their candidate catch ground. The more people investigate Obama, the more they find out that he PERSONALLY benefited from our economic disaster but chose to blame EVERYONE ELSE (albeit not a single Democrat). The more they study our current problematic, the more they realize that while John McCain may not be a saint, he simply didn’t benefit from this disaster to the same extent as Mr. Obama and his cronies. This rabid fear of defeat is driving them to cook up any nasty story that they can envision against the Republican candidate, even to the point of exaggerating their poll numbers, just to extend the perception that “most people like Obama on the economy better”.

http://savagepolitics.com/

#29 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 11:13 am

CARRIE:
i DON’T BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD EVER COME UP WITH A DUMB IDEA.
And if the impossible should by some means become reality, TEXAS would enlighten you.

Congratulations again on your great work. I tremble to think of the day when we “almost” lost you and TEXAS!

#30 catsarepumas on 09.24.08 at 11:14 am

#22 sounds just like Ahmadinejad yesterday:

“And in a direct attack on the U.S., he declared that the “American empire in the world is reaching the end of its road,” and urged the next presidential administration to “limit their interference to their own borders.”

#4 that is scary

#31 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:15 am

I don’t know if any of you have seen supposedly “fact check” of Anderson 360 vote of NObama and Biden “Bridge to Nowhere”. A young reporter supposedly doing “fact check” stated NObama and Biden voted for the first time to build bridge to nowhere in Alaska, and their second vote for “Bridge to Nowhere” was against it because money is needed to rebuild in New Orleans after Katrina devastation.

The First fact check was correct

The second fack check was wrong

NObama and Biden voted against diverting the earmark for Bridge to Nowhere to rebuild New Orleans after Katrina. It was CNN last night who reported it how NObama and Biden cast their vote. 80% of Democrats in the US Senate voted against diverting the money for Katrina.

You may wonder why? In 2004, Lousiana voted for Republican in general election, while in Alaska the governor was a Democrat.

#32 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 11:17 am

Thanks Lilbet!

I hope everyone likes the idea and that people will not be afraid to submit content. The subject heading page has been created and I will begin to add things as I receive them!

http://puma-facts.com/Puma.aspx

#33 Henerietta on 09.24.08 at 11:21 am

PUMA ALERT:

I just saw Obama’s new ad. It is targeting women by claiming that McCain voted against equal pay for equal work. It is obviously a slam against McCain that is intended to appeal to women.

With Obama’s current status of discrimination against women on his staff, and the way Hillary and Palin were and are being disrespected, we need to move quickly to counter attack.

Any Ideas?

#34 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 11:22 am

One last thing before I leave for the day. Bookmark this poll. AOL has hundreds of thousands of users of all parties, race, etc. They don’t ask for any particulars, just a straight up question for the poll. AOL represents pretty much everyone. Their polls have been consistently on the mark since I started paying attention to them 3 elections ago.

As the day wears on you will see the amount of voters grow. They usually get between 300,000 and 400,000. I’ve been watching this one for a couple of hours. McCain had the lead in the beginning and his lead is growing.

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/economy-gives-obama-clear-edge-in-poll/186312?icid=200100397x1210365284x1200562138

OH…and on election day don’t waste your time with the news to get the results. I’ve always known the winner way ahead of time thru AOLs exit poll.

#35 Silence Dogood on 09.24.08 at 11:23 am

Congress already passed one bailout bill in July for 300 billion. Should we see how that goes first?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26839037

#36 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 11:23 am

Henerietta…we have to email McCain’s ad group to put out an ad on what McCain pays his female staffers versus Bozo’s payment to his, which is considerably less.

#37 DeepSouth on 09.24.08 at 11:25 am

Okay….this time I really have to go! Have a good day everyone!

#38 Seattlegirl on 09.24.08 at 11:25 am

Some of you have been talking about the economy and sound very worried so I throw this out as a way to perhaps hold on to your IRAs or retirement savings and not let them get eaten up by inflation or a dropping stock market. IT seems Warren Buffet is buying stakes in companies for very reasonable amounts right now since the companies what to use his willingness to invest in their stock to show they are stable. So who knows what will work but I think one angle is to buy Berkshire Hathaway B shares. Unfortunately Buffet doesn’t believe in splitting stock to keep prices low so one share costs about $4,440. Still I think it is a good bet for retirement.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BRK-B

OK leaving for work!

#39 Grizzly on 09.24.08 at 11:27 am

#3 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 10:38 am …

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kat – the article you posted in an incredible piece of work. I would urge everyone to read it, and copy and forward the link and the article to your contacts.

Dr. Kate, the author, hits the nail squarely on the head.

#40 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 11:27 am

I just want to give a shout out to Larry King: Way to go on your Mahmoud Ahmadinejad interview!

You asked ALL the right questions! Ya right. You idiot.

Couldn’t ask him about Iran’s relationship with Russia? You know, how Russia sells Iran military weapons? Like just a few days ago? What does Russia get in return besides money? What else does this relationship entail? How about how Iran funds and trains Hamas and Hezbollah? How can he speak of peace and yet sponsor terrorism? Does he not see a more peaceful solution? Or does he realize the hypocrisy since he does not lead by example?

Larry! Hello? These things are not important, Larry? Not curious at all?

You idiot.

Larry: So, Mahmoud, where in the USA would you like to visit?

Mahmoud: Los Angeles. (Smiling) California.

Yippeeeeeeee.

#41 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:28 am

Henrietta

Nobama have been lying a lot in his ad campaign but the media never point it out to the people.

The campaign ad NObama targetting women is a LIE. The woman who filed a case for equal pay, filed it after a year, the court gave the decision she should have filed the case for equaly pay within 180 days after she received her first paycheck.

McCain voted against the bill because it would set a precedent to file lawsuits, he’s not against equal pay for women, in fact McCain pay his staff higher salary compared to NObama and he has more women on his staff on top position than NObama.

#42 murphy on 09.24.08 at 11:28 am

Thanks deepsouth #34. I took the polls — they’re quick and easy to do.

bookmark this page, vote, and watch it grow!

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/economy-gives-obama-clear-edge-in-poll/186312?icid=200100397×1210365284×1200562138

#43 indy on 09.24.08 at 11:28 am

#3 kat in your hat,

Wow! Thanks for the link to a great article by Dr. Kate.

This article should be disseminated throughout the US.

Obama will change America as we know it today, if elected.

In my own research, I, too, have felt the undercurrent Dr. Kate discusses. Obama IS the Trojan Horse.

Every time I found another figure in Obama’s life it was controversial. I have found no average people as friends or associates of his. Obama’s associates are radical Americans, Syrians, Iranians, Pakistanis, Iraqis (even an arms dealer to Saddam Hussein), Saudis, Palestinians(members of the PLO), etc.

Maybe, that’s one of the reasons Obama flip-flops so much. Obama might be purposely evasive to throw us off guard. Well, it must be working because almost half the voters are falling for his bull….

I’m going to McCain’s campaign office in my county, making them aware, and hopefully giving them a more focused purpose to their get out the vote campaign.

It may just be us Hillary supporters and web bloggers who actually save this country from the Trojan Horse. We’ll become the Helens of America.

God, please, please help us.

#44 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 11:29 am

#39 Grizzly, yes, I am only half way through it, and I am already aware of much of it, but like all puzzles, it helps to have someone put the pieces together to see the full picture.

#45 sistermoon3 on 09.24.08 at 11:29 am

question?

If Obama was so aware of the wall street fiasco, could someone who might have followed all his campaigne speeches tell me when he said anything about it?
I have tried my best to follow both candidates to keep my brain straight..anyone out there?

#46 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 11:32 am

good morning folks, just checking out the internet and things aren’t looking too good for McCain.

#47 Delle on 09.24.08 at 11:32 am

After reading The Trojan Horse, read this commentary which was sent to me by a friend:

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=5663

#48 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 11:33 am

#31Asian4Hillary: Thanks for the clarification. For the record, from my point of view and experience, both parties have used New Orleans, its Mayor, the former Governor of La, we, the people, and any other item related to Katrina as political ploys. I, of course, resent it far worse from the Democrats, as they continue to ape the now hollow language of the ghosts of themselves and our Party. I never expected Bush and his cronies to do anything less.

#49 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 11:35 am

#46Noblecascade: With that introduction, proceed so I can decide if in fact your cascade is noble or just another run of Obimbo diarehha….here-ah.

#50 Dragonfly on 09.24.08 at 11:37 am

Lurking Boiz -

How can you even suggest that you hope one of us or someone we love should suffer the consequences of a back alley abortion? It betrays your own misogyny to think that way and your arrogance to put it in writing – thank you Murphy, for exposing this bullsh*t.

As a lawyer, just as de Rothschild, a Columbia-educated lawyer, said, ROE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. IT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION.

BOIZ, if you ain’t got nuthin’ else, you betray your own stupidity. VOTE NADER, BOIZ, if you are really liberal and progressive. You can be a good Democrat and still say NObama.

#51 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 11:37 am

I don’t know anything other than what the websites tell me….my only prayer is McCain can make a good showing in the debates…to bring his numbers up.

#52 catsarepumas on 09.24.08 at 11:38 am

Today is the day that Obama and Dean are supposed to provide documents/answers to Berg’s lawsuit. Whether they will or not is another question.

#53 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 11:38 am

this neck and neck stuff is killing me….

#54 Henerietta on 09.24.08 at 11:41 am

Attention everyone who opposes the bail out:

THIS IS A GOOD THING! Don’t knock it until you understand it.

1. Most of the ‘money’ isn’t money at all, but guarantees. That means the Government is cosigning in case of default.

2. A portion is loans that must be paid back with interest.

3. A large part is made up of the government buying up defaulted mortgages and properties that have been foreclosed. These properties will be either refinanced with government guaranteed loans, or, will be sold to recoup the money invested.

Why is this necessary?

1. Many pension funds, life, health, auto, homeowners insurance policies are affected. 401K funds are affected. Student loans and mortgages are affected. If all of these things are not covered by someone, the entire economy may very well collapse.

2. If all of the defaulted (unforeclosed) loans go into foreclosure and the properties are liquidated (are sold at a discount) the value of real estate in this country will certainly fall, maybe as much as 90%. That means if you own a $100,000 house today, in a collapsed market, it might be worth about $10,000. That very thing happened in Detroit recently, where you could buy houses that once sold for $200,000 or more for less than $30,000.

What this does is hurt us all. This ‘bail out’ will eventually be a zero expenditure if it is handled right. A recent example is the savings and loan crisis of 1987. We absorbed and rectified that one, most people never even knowing how it resolved.

This bail out is a page right out of FDR and Bill Clinton’s handbook. If it has proper supervision from the various agencies within the Department of Treasury, it will work, the economy will be saved, and the budget will not be broken in the meantime.

To give background: I am a real estate appraiser who studies these things. These opinions are influenced by 33 years in the business, stats from Resolution Trust, HUD, and Rural Development.

#55 Dragonfly on 09.24.08 at 11:42 am

catsarepumas -

I heard also that today is the deadline. Obama will probably file a motion to dismiss or something. Berg is supposed to be on Ed Hale’s show tonight.

#56 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:44 am

#52 catsarepumas

The case filed by Berg against NObama has no legs, Bill O’reilley and FoxNews have already done their research about BC of NObama. He was born in Hawaii, his mother was a US citizen. Although his father was a Kenyan citizen, it does not affect his citizenship. Like other countries, the father give his child automatic Kenyan citizenship which his child when reaching the age of maturity (18) may keep or reject.

#57 Dragonfly on 09.24.08 at 11:44 am

Thanks, Heneri. It’s good to hear an informed perspective on this.

Too bad the powers that be did not listen to Hillary and Ralph Nader, both of whom predicted this and had plans to deal with it.

#58 Dragonfly on 09.24.08 at 11:45 am

Asian4Hillary -

I would trust Berg before I would trust O’Reilly. I was hoping he was a big enough jerk to stand up against the media sell out, but he’s afraid of being called a racist. The media won’t say anything about Obama.

#59 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 11:46 am

I agree Asian4Hillary…this lawsuit is a waste of time.

#60 MamaPuma on 09.24.08 at 11:46 am

lilibet
I think that is pretty much a super worker!!!

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT
PUMAs today is a day for an adventurous prowl and a day to have some fun.

Get to work – read your mail – do the work – come back and tell us all about it!

Mama

#61 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:47 am

#54 Henerietta

I support the bailout 100%. My nest egg when I reach 65 is tied up, if the feds won’t do it, we’d hit depression in a hurry, my nest egg that I’ve started since I was in my 20′s will turn to nothing.

#62 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 11:47 am

Just like I don’t believe that silly rumor about Biden stepping down for Hillary…that is totally stupid.

#63 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 11:49 am

#49 on #46

I almost always can count on someone to say something that reflects how I am thinking. Thank you.
:roll: , :lol:

#64 mimi1020 on 09.24.08 at 11:49 am

#56 Asian4Hillary

Then why the altered COLB on his website that has already been found as a forgery by several experts?
Then why travel on an Indonesian passport in 1981?
Sorry, I dont trust O’Reilly as far as I can throw him.
If indeed it had no legs, they why has it not been thrown out by now? Why can’t BO just come up with his CORRECT AND AUTHENTIC BC?

I usually agree with everything you share – but not this.
TOOOOOOO FISHY!

#58 Dragonfly
I’m with you on this!

#65 TerryDo on 09.24.08 at 11:50 am

12 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 10:52 am i COPIED THE FOLLOWING JUST IN CASE MURPHY WOULD LIKE TO USE IT AS A HEADER SOMETIME.

http://i3.photoblog.com/photos5/16929-1218654315-25-l.jpg
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That was a great cartoon, speaking as one of the commoners of course….LOL

#66 Kempion on 09.24.08 at 11:51 am

#54 Henerietta, something that has been lost (in the MSM reporting anyway) is the ACTUAL losses at AIG. AIG lost less than 8.5% of its asset value. This is hardly a “crisis.”

Merril Lynch, Goldman Sachs, Leehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley and, of course, AIG are all victims of a hostile takeover by the Fed. The Fed is keeping the tradable assets while shifting the entire burden of the losses to the American taxpayer.

Fanny and Freddie are a ruse – a distraction. The fact that Dodd is running the hearings is a clear indication of the treachery in play here.

The real crimes and “crisis” are at the Fed. How can they get away with what will be a two TRILLION dollar transfer of wealth from investors and taxpayers to a private corporation: the Fed?

#67 Beca4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:51 am

I smell fraudddd!

Obama and Democrats Trying To Steal The White House
September 24, 2008
By AJ Strata

Well, it seems the democrats are going to try to stop voters from voting, mainly Republican voters of course:

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has a reputation as the most partisan state official in Ohio. And she works hard to earn it. The Democrat’s latest stunt rejected absentee ballots for thousands of Republicans.

Brunner sent a memo telling county election officials to reject those applications for absentee ballots if the box was not checked. “Failure to check the box leaves both the applicant and the board of elections without verification that the applicant is a ‘qualified elector’,” she wrote.

But that’s contrary to state law and Brunner doesn’t have the authority, according to the lawsuit and an opinion from Hamilton County’s Republican Prosecutor Joe Deters.

Ohio law allows voters to request an absentee ballot on the back of a grocery sack if they want to, as long as they include their name, address, date of birth, signature and either a driver’s license number, last four Social Security numbers or a valid picture I.D.

There is nothing in the law about checking a box to verify a qualified voter. The voter’s signature is enough, because that’s what is checked to send ballots, said Hamilton County Clerk of Courts Greg Hartmann, who ran against Brunner in 2006 and is now county chairman for the McCain-Palin campaign. “It’s just bald partisanship,” he said. “She’s trying to disqualify likely McCain voters.”

So this is “Change” Barack? SS-like tactics? This is your brave new world? I do recall that you used legal challenges to clear the field of all contenders when you ran for the Senate. Seems democracy is something of an inconvenience for you on the path to becoming The Messiah?

Source: The Strata-Sphere

#68 scarlet on 09.24.08 at 11:53 am

#26 mlhath posted:

I still have many friends asking me how I could vote for McCain?
What about health care?

What about the economy?

What about my retirement? (end)

How many times have we heard politicians, pundits and guardians of our news media say that President Bush cut taxes, or Obama is going to raise taxes?

The fact of the matter is that presidents have no power to raise or lower taxes. They can propose tax measures or veto them but it is Congress that has the ultimate power to raise or lower taxes since they can, with a two-thirds vote, override a presidential veto. The same principle applies to spending. Presidents cannot be held responsible for budget deficits or surpluses. A president cannot spend a dime that Congress does not first appropriate. Given these plain facts, are politicians, pundits and media people — who persist in talking about a president cutting or raising taxes, or creating a budget deficit — ignorant, stupid or deceptive?

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams091708.php3

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Isn’t health care, retirement, the economy and everything in the hands/votes of Congress? And/or, is it our own personal responsibilty?

#69 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 11:56 am

mimi1020

Think of this, the US government has CIA, NSA, Homeland Security; do you think this three who’s purpose is to protect our country from foreign and domestic will allow NObama to squeeze in if he’s not a natural born US citizen? Do you think the Republican Party will not bring it out into the open if Berg’s lawsuit is true and correct?

#70 scarlet on 09.24.08 at 11:57 am

E FROM MCCAIN CAMPAIGN TODAY

Team,

Last week, our campaign launched a grassroots effort to put you in touch with voters all across the country through our online phone bank.

The polls all show this election is in a dead heat, and we expect the polls to stay close until Election Day. That’s why it’s so important for you to get involved today. This election will be won by turning out key voters all over the country. You can help the McCain-Palin campaign win by taking 30 minutes out of your evening to make 20 calls for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Follow this link to make calls: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank

The Obama-Biden campaign has hired hundreds of paid staff and is spending millions of dollars bombarding undecided voters with advertisements filled with negative, misleading and false information about John McCain and Governor Palin. We need your help to combat this and get the truth out to these voters. You are the most effective surrogate we have in this campaign. By reaching out to undecided voters, one by one, you are taking a crucial step towards our victory.

Today, we are only six weeks away from Election Day and we need your help right now. In such a close election, taking 30 minutes to make 20 calls for John McCain and Governor Palin can make the difference.

Follow this link to make calls: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank

As always, I appreciate your hard work and dedication to our team!

Sincerely,

Christian Ferry
Deputy Campaign Manager

#71 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 11:58 am

#51NobleCascade: Your response to my direct confrontation answered my question. Do you like living in the dark…? Underground? Dungeon time!

#72 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:07 pm

what is dungeon time?

#73 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:09 pm

I answered your confrontational question…the numbers are not looking good for McCain. I am only hoping he can do well in the debates. Hillary whipped Obamas ass in their debates I can only hope McCain can do as well.

#74 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:10 pm

gee NewOrleansPuma you might think about taking a chill pill while you are doing all this confronting.

#75 mimi1020 on 09.24.08 at 12:11 pm

#69 Asian4Hillary

I see your point, however, with all the corrupt actions of our Government to date, I would not put it past anyone to let this guy slide.

I do believe the McCain Camp is on this and I believe he wants to win this thing on his own merritt, however, if the situation gets sticky enough, I do believe the Repubs are ready and set to bring this to light or enforce it anyways.

However, the question still remains – Why the Fake COLB? I cannot get anyone to answer this one logically for me

#76 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 12:13 pm

Noblecascade

Yes the number doesn’t look good for McCain in national polls, but we do not have national election, all elections are local ;)

I pay attention to state by state polls, those are the polls we must watch, 18% of registered voters are undecided up to now.

#77 Headclunker on 09.24.08 at 12:15 pm

I believe the Berg Lawsuit is important because Berg is a private citizen challenging the credentials of a candidate for election. Americans need to do more of this. Hold them accountable! Elected officials need to answer.

The next most important thing is the information itself, birth certificate and college transcripst, etc. Get it into the record. What reason could he have for not providing the court with a physical copy of his birth certificate?

If BO does not respond, he looks bad and creates mess. Call out the chicken!!!

#78 michelle47 on 09.24.08 at 12:15 pm

A quote from my all time favorite movie BRAVEHEART…
It happens, when on the battlefield the scots are staring at an incoming attack from the english…..

Mel Gibson’s character is waiting and says……..

HOLD,HOLD,HOLD………..

That is what the republicans are doing to the Obama campaign….It will be a blitz attack, one that Obama will not see coming…In my humble opinion.

#79 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:15 pm

that is a good point Asian4Hillary. I have been looking at each state but will pay more attention. Thanks for kindly pointing that out. Geeezzzz. Gettin a little testy here.

#80 mick on 09.24.08 at 12:15 pm

Berg Lawsuit UPDATE:

Hi PUMAs,

I’ll continue to watch Jeff Schreiber’s blog today and give updates.

******************************************

Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Berg v. Obama Update — Wednesday, September 24

Answer to Berg’s Complaint Due Today from Obama, DNC

As today is “Answer Day” with regard to Berg v. Obama, keep checking back here from time to time should I hear anything from my contacts in the federal courthouse.

I expect something will be filed–motion to dismiss or for extension of time–and probably, for insulation purposes, by the DNC and not by Obama’s camp, and will keep everyone here abreast of any changes. On the off-chance that nothing is filed today, I’ll do my best to obtain comment from Phil Berg and will attempt to present details, options and analysis later this evening.

In the meantime, have yourselves a wonderful autumnal Wednesday.

– Jeff

http://www.americasright.com/

#81 john on 09.24.08 at 12:17 pm

The media campaigns hard for Obama ,the pollsters manipulate the polls for Obama. Thank god for the people we will decided this election. McCain will win FL and OH, but to seal the deal he needs to win PA and/or Michigan which all indications says he can. Make calls for McCain in those 2 states and we can show the media we the people are still the deciders

#82 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:17 pm

Dungeon time is what every instinct in me tells me you will experience sooner or later.
We are testy here. We are the ones no one was expecting.

#83 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.24.08 at 12:18 pm

Just received the following email:
Oh, God , say it ain’t so…….

All… This must definitely be considered an unconfirmed rumor. However, I am sharing just one of many messages we received from several reliable sources AND was discussed today on the Sean Hannity show as possibly Obama’s “October Surprise”. Barb Coe – CCIR

hi all

let me share some info with you that i have gotten from excellent sources within the DNC:

On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to occur after the VP debate on 10/2.

there have been talks all weekend about how to proceed with this info. generally, the feeling is that we should all go ahead and get it out there to as many blog sites and personal email lists as is possible. i have already seen a few short blurbs about this – the “health problem” cited in those articles was aneurysm. probably many of you have heard the same rumblings.

however, at this point, with this inside info from the DNC, it looks like this obama strategy will be a go. therefore, it seems that the best strategy is to get out in front of this obama maneuver, spell it out in detail, and thereby expose it for the grand manipulation that it is.

so, let’s start mixing this one up and cut the obamites off at the pass – send this info out to as many people as you can – post about it on websites and blogs – etc etc

lastly, i have put an excerpt from Rudy’s speech at the RNC below – it seems to address this very issue!!

excerpt from R.Giuliani’s speech at the 2008 RNC:

“Obama — Obama promised to take public financing for his campaign, until he broke his promise.

Obama — Obama was against wiretapping before he voted for it.

When speaking to a pro-Israeli group, Obama favored an undivided Jerusalem , like I favor and like John McCain favored. Well, he favored an undivided Jerusalem — don’t get too excited — for one day, until he changed his mind.

Well, I’ll tell you, if I were Joe Biden, I’d want to get that V.P. thing in writing.”

#84 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:19 pm

#74NobleCascade: No one here takes chill pills. We create chills in the souls of those who will defeat Obimbo.
You know him? Fraud Obimbo…Mr. Alinsky clone and his Oblah blah bots.

#85 storytellers on 09.24.08 at 12:20 pm

#69, A 4 H
I do not know anymore, that is what my partner tells me, but ,the way the media is behaving, the trash he is getting away with
I am totally confused as to what the institutions that suppossedly protect our democarcy are doing

#86 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:22 pm

#82 New Orleans Puma…yeah, you are right…I wasn’t expecting you that’s for sure. I have chatted on this blog many many times and everyone has been very friendly and professional till somehow I have offended you and that all came to a screeching halt. Don’t know what your problem is, maybe you have experienced too many tropical depressions but you need to get a grip.

#87 storytellers on 09.24.08 at 12:22 pm

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM , EVEN IF HILLARY IS VP,
WHAT KIND OF SH*T IS THIS
WHAT A MESS¡¡

#88 slyt2 on 09.24.08 at 12:23 pm

I was watching fox this morning and Michelle M was on talking about a you tube video put out by a “behind the scenes person” anyways she had said they know this ad is totally false and she believes David Alexrod(whatever he name is)is behind this please read this I think it’s interesting and shows more unhanded, dirty works of the BO camp.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/22/bloggers-sniff-out-anti-palin-astroturf-campaign-and-the-cover-up-begins/

#89 Your northern neighbor on 09.24.08 at 12:23 pm

70 scarlet
…Today, we are only six weeks away from Election Day and we need your help right now. In such a close election, taking 30 minutes to make 20 calls for John McCain and Governor Palin can make the difference.

Follow this link to make calls: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank
*********************************************
I think this is a great idea.

In my personal opinion, the swing states should be the focus.

#90 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:25 pm

#86Noblecascade: I have a grip. I have experienced too many Obama bots, as has this country. And if you were not expecting me then, you do not know what this group is about.

#91 mick on 09.24.08 at 12:27 pm

#83 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.24.08 at 12:18 pm

This was started in the blogosphereand it’s nothing but pure rumor. I wish that everyone would stop spreading it around. There’s no FACTS to support this.

#92 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:29 pm

yeah, right whatever NOPuma…no here to argue with the likes of you….just here to get an idea of how to get McCain’s numbers up.

#93 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 12:29 pm

Well, MAMA, this posting by me on GRETAWIRE was a direct result of following the prowl to the ACTION CENTER.

“Foreign Experience at the PRESENT MOMENT is paramount. With Russia linking up with radical states opposed to the United States, we need a leader who can deal with an explosive state of affairs. The current dealings of Russia with Venezuela is being compared to that of the Cuban relations with Russia. The trouble is we don’t have a KENNEDY to deal with the problems that such an alliance will bring with it. We could have had the CLINTONS with the most astute political minds of our day, but the stupid and jealous Democratic leadership chose a neophyte that they thought they could control. Did they not know that he is being controlled by the Chicago radicals?

#94 slyt2 on 09.24.08 at 12:32 pm

#83 notfollowinthepiedpiper Now I can’t swear on a bible or anything but today Megan Kelly and Bill Hemmer(spelled wrong/right) just brought that up today and said that is the newest rumor going around the web now biden will fake a illness and drop out and they said that is no that is NOT TRUE so hopefully they are correct. :)

#95 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 12:32 pm

#85 storytellers

The media is in cahoots with NObama, they’re literally campaigning for him. There’s something to our advantage technology. Without our keyboard, mouse, internet server; we the people would believe whatever the media says; now we can cross check what they’re saying on TV and radio, newsprint by using the internet. Senior citizens alone spend at least 70 hours every week surfing the internet, they’re retired, they have all the time in their hands. Many people thought senior citizens don’t know anything about google. Our senior citizens are very savvy when it comes to internet.

The media has lost its credibility and integrity; they have no ethical standard to speak of. Would be tyrants are always supported by the media, it gives them power to change the tide how people cast their vote for catering to a political party instead of staying neutral. I have no ounce of respect for the media at all, in fact I look at them as a bunch of highly paid menace of society and the biggest threat towards democracy. The more people are uninformed or ignorant of issues at hand, the more it enables the media to spread their lies.

#96 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:34 pm

#92: Noblecascade: This Pac does not have as its purpose how to get MCCain’s numbers up. We are as certainly you know since you said you have visited here many times an antiObama site. We are about getting Obimbo defeated. The McCain site certainly can help with ideas for getting his numbers up. Perhaps you should visit them as well. Oh, and regarding arguing with the likes of me, there is no argument here about what this group is about. Therefore, there is nothing for you to argue with me about it.

#97 BillieJo on 09.24.08 at 12:35 pm

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Barack Obama attracting 49% of the vote while John McCain earns 47%.

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F%u$@%!

#98 Delle on 09.24.08 at 12:37 pm

26 – mlhath,

Tell your friends that if Obama and his Marxist thugs get into office, these questions from your democratic friends will be irrevelant.

#99 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 12:37 pm

#97 BillieJo

Don’t worry about it, every poll has a slant either +/-5 or +/-3. 18% of registered voters are undecided up to now.

#100 sistermoon3 on 09.24.08 at 12:38 pm

I bought my house in dec 1989 on a fixed rate…after a divorce and waiting out 7 years of bankrupcy due to divorce and lack of child support…so i guess i missed the days when fannie mae and freddie mac was handing out loans to people who didnt earn or deserve them..all i know is john mccain receive 26 thousand over a twenty year period from them, while Obama only in the senate 4 years now has received the most after Chris Dobbs, that reeks of evil right there if you ask me…and then we have Biden today preaching Obama will be great for the national security…like im supposed to believe that crap.

I am a bit sick of both these loud mouths, and hey, if Obama is so ready to be President, why the hell does it take him 3 days to prepare for a debate, while mccain is out there stumping… this should be a cake walk for Obama sense he’s the Messiah of the world

#101 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:39 pm

#99Asian4Hillary: Once again your straight eyes see the truth!

#102 BillieJo on 09.24.08 at 12:39 pm

Doing prowl while I work. Making new flyers for trip to NV to spread the word of obies corruption.

I have made a new flyer using Lynette Long’s post on the top: http://www.lynettelong.com/

Not sure if it can go in the Action Center since it is written by her or not.

Dances please let me know.
It talks about all the reasons – she as a Democrat will not vote for BO and connects to her caucus website.

#103 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:40 pm

thanks NO puma for the advice but I like this site best…it is comforting to know you are the keeper of the flame. I like to do the prowls.

#104 catsarepumas on 09.24.08 at 12:40 pm

Asian4Hillary:

evidently BO did not reject Indonesian citizenship since he used that passport to travel to Pakistan when he was 20.

All Mr. Berg wants is to see documents that prove BO is a citizen. If BO has them, case closed. If not, he’s not eligible to be POTUS.

Read the actual lawsuit at obamacrimes.com.

If Obama doesn’t not respond today, Mr Berg can ask for a summary judgement. Why would BO do that if he is a citizen?

#105 murphy on 09.24.08 at 12:43 pm

Quit fighting you whippersnappers. We have more important things to do today!

Dont worry about the polls BillieJo — they’re within the margin of error, and everyone in the country is watching Wall Street and Congress right now.

The polls will be even until:

1. after the first debate
2. after the ground settles under the financial crisis

right now we voters are, of necessity, in a holding pattern.

#106 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 12:45 pm

thanks Murphy for a voice of reason

#107 murphy on 09.24.08 at 12:45 pm

billiejo and dwp — it sure can go in the ACTION Center, and thank you!

As long as Dr. Long is credited as the author of the words and proper quotation marks etc etc.

definitely.

I think dwp can add our disclaimer and logo to the bottom, right dwp?

;-)

#108 ClintonDem4Cynthia2008 on 09.24.08 at 12:47 pm

Obama-Biden chose the “bridge to nowhere” over the Katrina victims.

“That is probably the most disturbing element of this and the campaigning on the Bridge to Nowhere,” said Bill Allison of the Sunlight Foundation, a taxpayer watchdog group. “Because, yes, they had a chance to vote specifically against the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska to redirect the money to people, to bridges and infrastructure damaged by Hurricane Katrina going in to New Orleans, and they chose not to.”

#109 murphy on 09.24.08 at 12:47 pm

Anyone else excited about the debate on Friday??

We’re going to spend the entire radio show Saturday night discussing it with a political analyst and callers.

I think Obama is going to bomb.

#110 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 12:47 pm

#101 NewOrleansPuma

Here’s a good example, wayback in 2004, we’re so excited Kerry would win in GE, national polls tells us he’s way ahead especially Mason-dixon polls, especially the polls they’ve done was in dixie line giving Kerry +10 against Bush. I was so excited thinking red turning blue. Then reality hits (november 4). It was a big letdown, even Edwards of NC were not able to carry his own state for Kerry, even Gore lost in his own state (TN) in 2000.

You know how NObama is going to lose this election? Democrats who cannot vote for him will vote for Nader especially those he hoodwinked and bamboozled – FISA, he made a promise to extreme leftwingnuts he will filibuster and vote against FISA , he voted for it.

NObama’s promise is like fresh milk or eggs you buy at the grocery near you; NOBAMA’s promise has expiration date.

#111 murphy on 09.24.08 at 12:48 pm

second prowl coming up shortly.

#112 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:50 pm

Noblecascade: I am not the keeper of the flame.
I am one hot spark of it., as are all the others.
As I hope you are too.

#113 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 12:50 pm

#8 murphy:

Sorry I missed your question! No, I am not the author, but I am very aware of much of what is in that article (and a lot more). The overall message (Trojan Candidate) as a theory has gripped me at different times. My logical side always tries to shoo it away, but I understand that author’s fears easily. I’ve researched Obama, and it’s a very strange process because everything links to another unnerving revelation, and it gets scary, mainly because the MSM hides it…so it feels quite worrisome.

Overall, I agree with the author on quite a bit.

#114 rain on 09.24.08 at 12:52 pm

Scarlet/Northern— I have started to make calls for McCain here in Florida.

I think all of this financial stuff is to help Obama, I hope someone will start paying attention to national security; these nations that want complete power are trying to make their moves while we are in house fighting and trying to survive this economic crisis.

#115 storytellers on 09.24.08 at 12:52 pm

#104 CATS…
could it be that they do not release the bc and other documents for propagandistic reasons????, and at the end let it go

#116 murphy on 09.24.08 at 12:52 pm

kat — same here. some of the stuff seemed a bit biased, but overall I was left feeling quite disturbed.

has everyone read this from Stanley Kurtz in the WSJ yesterday?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html

#117 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.24.08 at 12:53 pm

mick and slyt2:

Thanks! What a horrible scenario!

#118 kevink on 09.24.08 at 12:53 pm

Could it really be? CNN reporting something damaging about Obama/Biden? No way…..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/biden.earmarks/index.html

#119 NewOrleansPuma on 09.24.08 at 12:55 pm

Noblecascade: If I offended you, I am sorry. OK?

#120 murphy on 09.24.08 at 12:55 pm

my prediction is that the case will either be dismissed or postponed until after the election.

I think this a political hot potato. the last thing the Republicans want to do is to be seen as trying to manipulate the outcome of the election by pulling a “technicality.” For better or worse they have to be seen as winning fair and square.

and the last thing the DONC wants is for this to go forward (obvi), so I’m not holding my breath.

#121 tillerylakelady on 09.24.08 at 12:56 pm

Mama,
went to action center,and retrieved all main stream media e-mails,except fox of course and sent info on,
1. caucus fraud
2.public allies
3.Violation of the Logan Act
4.Obama’s Ear Marks
5.William Ayers and Obama
6.terrorist ties
Asked them why there Not doing there Job and if we the People could research this info,Why couldn’t the MAIN STREAM MEDIA.
By the way the action CTR. is GREEEEEEEEAT

#122 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.24.08 at 12:57 pm

#97 BillieJo

See my #710 and #716 regarding Rasmussen polls in the previous thread. I have absolutely NO respect for it any more.

#123 Notyoursweetie on 09.24.08 at 12:58 pm

Finally figured out why Bushco is behind Obama
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/obama-a-hand-grenade-thown-at-the-democratic-party/

#124 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 1:02 pm

Please put this link to our blog. This is a watchdog organization for taxpayers.

SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION
http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/

#125 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 1:04 pm

#47 Delle:

Thanks for the interesting link. I am going to read it now.

#126 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:05 pm

Thanks Asian — great link.

The Sunlight Foundation helps fund the site opensecrets, one of THE BEST sources of facts about campaign finances.

I’ll email dwp.

#127 slyt2 on 09.24.08 at 1:08 pm

Ok went to the action center and printed out Marylands two faces of BO once I get those passed out I will come back and get another more. I have to go get prescription in a bit and to the bank so i’ll be dropping off a lot of fliers between here and there.
notfollowinthepiedpiper glad I could help (hopefully they know what they are talking about.

#128 thecandypoem on 09.24.08 at 1:09 pm

Third article in three days in the mainstream press about Obama’s ties to Ayers:

U.S.News & World Report:

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/09/24/mainstream-media-should-pay-attention-to-obamas-ties-to-william-ayers.html

#129 ontherocks on 09.24.08 at 1:12 pm

Printed flyers; I will be passing them out today.
:lol:

#130 doria on 09.24.08 at 1:12 pm

Hi Pumas, I have decided that I must do what I can to prevent the election of a dangerous candidate. I will donate 10 days of my time before the election working for McCain/Palin. This is more a practical means to an end rather than an endorsement. The campaign has requested I go to Ohio. If anyone is able and feels so inclined, I’ve posted the following:

Thank you for your willingness to give up your time and dedicate a week of your life for the McCain/Palin campaign! Your interest is greatly appreciated!

Currently we are recruiting volunteers to go into battleground states the final days prior to the election. A battleground state is one that is highly contested. This state may be the state in which you live, and it may be a state nearby. We are asking that you dedicate the 10-14 days prior to the election however volunteers who aren’t able to provide the full amount of time requested are still eligible for participation.

The Get-Out-The-Vote activities include making phone calls, recruiting more volunteers, going door to door, and assisting with any additional campaign activities and operations needed in that particular state. Volunteers will need to provide their own transportation to, and within, the battleground state, and arrange for their own housing. Regretfully, we are unable to reimburse any expenses.

Please provide the top 3 state choices where you would like to serve. Because we are unable to provide compensation for this program, we are willing to place volunteers in states in which they can most easily obtain housing, transportation, etc. If you have no preference you will be asked to travel to the states in which we have the most critical need as determined by the volunteers’ coordinator’s discretion.

If you have further questions please contact our volunteers’ office at the national campaign headquarters in Arlington, VA, at (703) 650-5893 during the hours of 2:30 and 5:30 p.m. EST.

Thank you for your support of John McCain, Sarah Palin, and our campaign!

John

John T. B. Cummins
Deputy Director of Volunteers
McCain – Palin 2008
703.650.5893

#131 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 1:15 pm

For anyone who didn’t see my posting earlier.

The website is coming along and I added new content yesterday and a new section today.

I am very ecited about the new section. It is called From The PUMAs. It’s for articles, opinions, comments on the site, or anything you PUMAS would like to submit on the site. Feel free to vent, pontificate, or just add your 2 cents. Just send me a submission from the contact us page and I will publish it to the site!

I am adding new stuff all of the time and I am no where near complete.

Who knew when I started this just how much crap was out there!?!

Go look around and be the first brave person to add a page to From the PUMAs!

http://puma-facts.com

#132 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 1:15 pm

PUMA PAC have morphed into EYES and EARS TRUTH TO POWER. We are no longer beholden to anyone, we’ve become the neutralizer of lies and misleading information.

Created by disgruntled democrats, have now become real voice of voters. Opinion and research majority of you have done and posted here, keep this country, beacon of democracy, shining bright. Be proud of yourself, in your own way you stood up for something many consider as insurmountable.

You folks is making my eyes water here! This is what I’ve been waiting for, this is what I wanted to see from all of you. You’re standing up for your country!

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!

#133 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 1:16 pm

To whom it may concern:
Murphy was NOT taking sides. If the shoe fits … …

#134 HP Boston on 09.24.08 at 1:19 pm

I have a story..really an incident at the eye doctors yesterday( I am the culprit that started it).
I just thought what the hell speak and see what happens, a packed waiting room and a mix of people. This is a large group practice of many doctors, and an upscale town.
Usually I am chickenshit when it comes to speaking out but I saw a Time Mag with a Palin pic on the cover and a crappy report on her inside sooooooooo……
I held it up after an elder lady(not well and somewhat confused) asked her caregiver(the youngest one in the room) who she was voting for.
The reply was she never talks about politics. I piped up and asked why not?
She stated it was scary and there are to many crazy people around. I looked about and said no one scary here and policitic are very important and should be discussed. No came a reply from most, it is to frightening to many people get in your face and yell and scream.
Will suffice to say you get the picture and the chit chat went on to “safer topics”. People are really AFRAID!

#135 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:19 pm

19 prplvette85 – thanks for posting that fantastic Wall Street Journal piece!

33 Henerietta – I’ll re-post a letter regarding the issues of concern you stated in your post. You can send it on to the media.

#136 Henerietta on 09.24.08 at 1:23 pm

#66 Kempion:
8.5% of a company can be a major loss if it leads to other losses. In insurance, the funds are subject to be called upon by claims. When they have a major loss, it eats into their margin. The 8+% loss could culminate in a larger loss if the loss snowballs. It is prudent to find some back up in the event there is a loss like this that is tied to the mortgage crisis.

I am not an expert on insurance, but have some knowledge as to how it is tied to real estate finance. Some of the debt that is not yet in crisis may be soon.

I do not think it is a bad thing to make these moves IF there are oversight strings attached. That means regulation by outside entities that will make most of the rules. This is a good thing if bad mistakes have been made to cause the crisis, or if bad mistakes are leading to a certian crisis.

What we have here is a situation were there was no oversight at all by anybody. The new rules will call for auditors and bank examiner type oversight by either the FED or by some agency within the Treasury Department.

Treasury has a number of agencies under its umbrella. Federal Trade Commission, Office of Comptroller of the Currency, other sub regulatory services, Resolution Trust, IRS, ATF, and even the Secret Service. If the treasury secretary has jurisdiction, then any or all of these agencies can intervene where it is appropriate.

This bail out is not without oversight. That is the point. Maybe it could be done a little differently, but this plan is better than the status quo by far. And it will work if the Congress will move on it in time.

#137 mick on 09.24.08 at 1:24 pm

Attention all PUMA friends,

Whether you are voting for McCain or not, we can all agree on a NObama outcome. Most of you are Democrats, and I’m a Republican, but we all benefit by working together.

I think we can all agree that the BEST way to do that is by taking it to the undecided voters. IMO, the best way to do that is either by f2f or by making phone calls.

Everyday I continue to be impressed with you all and I’m addicted to reading this blog. I love doing the “prowls” and I’ve learned so much this past month. I wish I could meet many of you in person … I would love to have a beer together after we win in Nov.

Anyway, back on topic.
Please read this email below and join me in making some phone calls to help stop Obama.

Team,

Last week, our campaign launched a grassroots effort to put you in touch with voters all across the country through our online phone bank.

The polls all show this election is in a dead heat, and we expect the polls to stay close until Election Day. That’s why it’s so important for you to get involved today. This election will be won by turning out key voters all over the country. You can help the McCain-Palin campaign win by taking 30 minutes out of your evening to make 20 calls for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Follow this link to make calls: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank

The Obama-Biden campaign has hired hundreds of paid staff and is spending millions of dollars bombarding undecided voters with advertisements filled with negative, misleading and false information about John McCain and Governor Palin. We need your help to combat this and get the truth out to these voters. You are the most effective surrogate we have in this campaign. By reaching out to undecided voters, one by one, you are taking a crucial step towards our victory.

Today, we are only six weeks away from Election Day and we need your help right now. In such a close election, taking 30 minutes to make 20 calls for John McCain and Governor Palin can make the difference.

Follow this link to make calls: http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank

As always, I appreciate your hard work and dedication to our team!

Sincerely,

Christian Ferry
Deputy Campaign Manager

#138 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:24 pm

Henerietta – Changes of plans. Forgot you like to write and we have a great action center. I would encourage you to write a letter to the media regarding the fact that despite Obama’s rhetoric about equal pay for equal work, he pays his female staffers 78 cents on the dollar as compared to his male staffers (that’s just 1 penny above the national average of pay discrepency based on gender). AND, this is a further decrease from a year ago, when he paid his female staffers 83 cents on the dollar. (The latest figures are from 10/07 – 3/08.) In addition, among his stop advisors the majority are male and when Dr. Long met with his campaign post convention and said he’d need to have an even gender split for her to consider joining/supporting them, she was flat out told they couldn’t commit to that. I believe she pointed out that among the 300 million women in America, surely they could find 10 to fill half of the top slots. Ugh. Look into it. You’ll write a great piece, I’m sure!

#139 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:25 pm

Hey Mick – Did you ever put together a media list of conservative outlets?

#140 CTKEY on 09.24.08 at 1:26 pm

Asian..I have always enjoyed your posts. I am moved by your post acknowledging this site and and all of us that proudly call ouselves PUMAs.

Yes, we morphed and yes we have raised the standard of our posts and information.

Thank you for contributing…

btw…remember the movie…”There is no crying in baseball !!” Love that line !

#141 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 1:26 pm

@47 Delle:

Ok, I read it. I am aware of almost all of what is in that article. I don’t naturally have that right of center “islamic extremist” fear. I’m not sure why it is not an immediate fear for me. I can’t explain it. I certainly recognize the threats to the West. I think Bush has desensitized me a little, and I think he desensitized the the far left completely–almost to the point of having a reverse effect.

I will say that I think the majority of the article has very important points, and I thought the second portion (job application and background check) was smart. It makes Obama’s candidacy for president appear to be an insane consideration.

#142 prplvette85 on 09.24.08 at 1:27 pm

this is just a thought, pure speculation but…did anyone ever think that Biden is acting this way purposely? So that when they use the excuse for him to drop out the symptoms would make sense, outbursts, sounding like he has been drinking etc. ? I saw an episode of “House” where there were brain tumors or anuerisms, and thats how the patients acted. I dont think Hillary would be put on the ticket, but the asskisser Richardson comes to mind, to try to seal up the Latino vote….just something to ponder.

#143 Delle on 09.24.08 at 1:28 pm

#17,

BO and DNC have until midnight to respond.

So far nothing.

Stay tuned.

Delle

#144 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:29 pm

dragonfly – keep forgetting to say how nice it is to see your name on the blog. i’ve missed you!

#145 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:29 pm

Henerietta — I’m with you. Thanks for enlightening me.

Mick — thanks for the kind words. Gotta tell you though that after “we” win in November, WE will be working our asses off to make sure the Republicans stay out of the White House for the rest of our lives!

;-)

just sayin.

Where’s the beer?? It’s lunchtime right?

#146 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 1:30 pm

prplvette85:

No, I don’t think Obama will switch his VP pick now. It would just be a negative.

#147 thecandypoem on 09.24.08 at 1:30 pm

“The Media Campaigns Hard for Obama”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/the_man_who_never_was.html

A good article. I left my comment there:

“It is time to look into Obama’s missing years. The press could do it, but they are “in the tank.” Well, I have a PUMA in my tank, and I will work my hardest to convince people to vote against this cardboard man, who is beholden to dubious or dangerous interests.”

PumaInMyTank

#148 mick on 09.24.08 at 1:31 pm

Hi Anna,

Yes, but I’m still working on it. I’ve had way too many mommie stuffs going on the last 4 days but I do have some time this afternoon to get back to it.

Sorry for the delay. :-)

#139 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:25 pm Hey Mick – Did you ever put together a media list of conservative outlets?

#149 slyt2 on 09.24.08 at 1:31 pm

HA HA HA HA Nancy P got the smack down from Catholic Church (anyone who’s a catholic knows this …. Read this not to long.
http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15970

#150 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:31 pm

There’s often a lot of informative posts on the blog. If folks just took a few extra minutes to formulate their ideas into a letter, they could send it off to some media outlets that bobram, nv puma and dances have worked so hard to provide for all of us. Bobram and NV PUMA have even started breaking contacts down by state, so we can target swing states, or our own state, etc. Let’s us the AC, otherwise everyone’s work will amount to nothing more than an OCD exercise.

#151 DancesWithPumas on 09.24.08 at 1:32 pm

Hey, stupidboy :
“I can only hope you or someone you love suffers the adverse consequences of a back alley abortion.”
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That’s your “tell”, and that’s all I need to know about you as a human being, your concern for roe v wade, and women’s reproductive rights in general, and the depths to which you will sink to garner a vote for your sexist boy. GFY.
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BillieJo,
“Not sure if it can go in the Action Center since it is written by her or not. Dances please let me know.”
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Billie Jo,
of course it can. Dr Long is credible. ‘As long as Dr. Long is credited as the author of the words and proper quotation marks etc etc.’–Murphy. Exactly.
That reminds me, I’ll correcr the other one of the two flyers you sent also. Should be up not later than 6pm today.
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Asian, Please put this link to our blog. This is a watchdog organization for taxpayers.
SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION
http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/
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Got it, thanks.

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Getting Current:

1) Coordinating, through the Southwest Moderator, with other CA and Nevada groups for month of October flyer and an ddoor knocking blitzes.

2) Working on a trifold leaflet (text on both sides) with a variety of talking points taken from docs in the Action Center, includes an invitation to check out Puma Pac.

3) Bobram has completed the TV station contact listing, and is now collecting newpaper contacts in critical states. Three states have been posted. See: Media Contacts section of the Action Center.

4) Henrietta’s notes on debating have been posted in Media and Prowls and Talking Points sections of the Action Center.

5) Working on a flyer idea for prplvette85 to accompany a Prowl idea she will pitch as soon as she recuperates. The flyer should be up no later than Friday.

#152 MamaPuma on 09.24.08 at 1:33 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT
Everybody better get over to the Action Center RIGHT NOW!

Read the prowl and do you work!!

We need you if we are to succeed.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Mama

#153 prplvette85 on 09.24.08 at 1:34 pm

#146 kat in your hat- common sense, that only Puma’s seem to have these days would tell us it would be a negative, but I see the rumors all over the news…as Murphy says: “just sayin” !
If he did, it will be after the debate..and after Sarah rips him a new one :)

#154 mick on 09.24.08 at 1:34 pm

Murphy,

:lol: Yeah, I figured that!! :lol: To bad, cause I feel damn lucky to have y’all on my side for once. ;-)

#145 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:29 pm Henerietta — I’m with you. Thanks for enlightening me.

Mick — thanks for the kind words. Gotta tell you though that after “we” win in November, WE will be working our asses off to make sure the Republicans stay out of the White House for the rest of our lives!

just sayin.

Where’s the beer?? It’s lunchtime right?

#155 Kempion on 09.24.08 at 1:34 pm

#136 Henerietta, your focus is on your nest egg.

There is much more going on. I lay out the rape of AIG in my blog. AIGs TOTAL loss is less than 8.5%.

The so-called “mortgage crisis” is pure fabrication. Fanny and Freddie are playing Bonnie and Clyde, but those losses are also trivial – in the scope of all that’s happening.

So, again, I ask WHAT crisis exists? My investments are doing just fine. I am not vested in areas of interest to the Fed.

#156 sistermoon3 on 09.24.08 at 1:36 pm

let’s get real here…obama is a one generation american at best…he’s not that tied to this country, he’s from so many variations of people he surly must be a confused person…i would be…he quotes so many presidents it’s as though he has been wanting to be president because well, he hasnt done anything else well, maybe this is what he thinks he can do best…run everything cause he’s a free spirit…and we are all stuck in our cultural upbringings. I dont know, I just get from him and his wife, we are all idiots and they know everything…like how to get a house LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

#157 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:36 pm

HP Boston, yep — people are afraid.

I got into a conversation with a Republican hockey mom last winter one ungodly early morning at the rink. I didnt know she was a Republican at first — we were talking about Iran. She basically supported Cheney’s plan of nuking them. I said I thought Bush should be tried as a war criminal. just kidding, I wasnt all that provovative, just politely disagreeing. OOOHH, she was MAD! She was livid! I hate confrontations like that — they serve very little purpose.

Actually, I take that back. Because there was a Dad sitting there quietly until the conversation became heated — then he jumped in and calmly backed me up (yay!). It defused the situation which was a good thing. But the best thing is that I made a friend, and learned that people arent what they always look like at first glance. The woman looked like a “typical limousine liberal,” well-off but stylish and hip. The man looked like a “typical white guy hunting/fishing dude,” right down to his John Deere cap. But he was the most mild-mannered, thoughtful and compassionate thinker. She was RABID.

It was extremely enlightening.

#158 Kempion on 09.24.08 at 1:36 pm

#136 Henerietta, you may think oversight by the Fed is a good thing. I see it as pure evil.

#159 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 1:37 pm

@128:

Ya, the whole thing is cover up. It’s getting exhausting. Back in the day, investigative journalists went out of their way to break the news. Now much of the MSM is just a propaganda arm for Oblow.

#160 Alice1943 on 09.24.08 at 1:38 pm

6 BillieJo on 09.24.08 at 2:21 am #583 Henerietta on 09.24.08 at 2:08 am

I would like to walk away and let the people who made the mess suffer. The problem is, we are all going to suffer if we let this thing go too far. If you own a house, have an insurance policy (health, car, or life), a pension fund or a 401K, you are affected, whether you participated directly in the creation of the mess or not. That is the reality. If we don’t do something, it will take down the value of all of our assetts, perhaps wipe them completely out.
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This is part of the problem in my opinion. You are worried about the value of your assets, and don’t want to lose anything. Is it right for everyone to have what they bought on credit and have everyone else pay more taxes for all those people that want to keep their assets? I have no assets, I rent an apartment, I have no stock…I one my used car. I work full time yet I am already in my early sixties. Should someone that didn’t buy into the hype pay more taxes so others with a home and assets can keep what they have in loans? If you own something free and clear, it’s yours. You can’t have it taken away, but if you bought a home and have loans………………you are in the mess.

I agree. The bailout is obscene and an insult to the millions of us who work hard, pay cash when we can and go without when we can’t. I am almost 65. I work hard doing physically demanding labor (landscaping/gardening) I rent an apartment. My old car is paid for and gets me from point A to B and back again.
I saw this day coming years ago. But I don’t think I’m unique. We all knew it, yet at some point, greed got in the way and people bought into the hype that they could ‘own’ something and make payments on it.
Well, I’ve got news. If you have a mortgage, your house is NOT yours. If you make car payments, the car is NOT yours. Same with furniture, boats, TV’s etc.
I believe it is obscene and fundamentally wrong to take one damn dime of my hard-earned money to pay for someone elses’ greedy choices. I would rather choose to give it to the American Red Cross or some other agency that represents people in REAL need.
This ‘bailout’ is just another damned band-aid and will fail like all the rest have failed.
It’s time for americans to make some hard choices. Hopefully they will choose in favor of their children and grandchildren and pass on a healthy world.
We can’t begin to heal until we hit bottom. and we can’t hit bottom until we put down the damned shovel.
Thinking this bailout will fix anything or bring a lastinmg change is like standing in a bucket and trying to lift yourself by the handle.

#161 RoBoTech on 09.24.08 at 1:38 pm

#2
That poem of Ayers is laughable.
It looks like some of the stuff I used to do after I had consumed a fairly stout dose of a THC based product.
I would sit, alone, and spend what seemed hours at the time on a verse.
When I had it down, I would read and re read it. Marveling at my own profoundness, occasionally a tear for how wonderful it was.
The next day when I was sober, I would re read it and trash it because it made no sense, and was an insult to Poets everywhere.
I don’t think the guy has ever been straight, so he always sees his “profoundness”.
The rest of us see a jerk.

#162 DancesWithPumas on 09.24.08 at 1:39 pm

“Bobram and NV PUMA have even started breaking contacts down by state, so we can target swing states, or our own state, etc.”
——————–
They’ve been doing that from the beginning.
I haven’t worked hard on those contacts, they have.
I just format and upload. Not being modest, just keeping it honest.
I also didn’t have anything to today’s Prowl, for reasons I’d rather not publicize here right now.

If you have useful links, example letters, contact info,
or any other valuable resources, suggestions for other useful sections to be added to the Action Center, etc.,
please email them to: actioncenter@pumapac.org

Thanks.

#163 PumaDuma on 09.24.08 at 1:39 pm

Don’t be fooled by the BailOut crybabies. It’s not a good thing. The Tax Payer doesn’t need to be put on the hook for $700Gazillion dollars. The idea behind it is to break the Middle Class.. Taxpayers DO NOT FUND or Bail Out Corporations or Private Enterprise!

It’s UNConstitutional!

Read here for yourself in a 3pt continuing series rather than take someone word for it:

“http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/mccain-tells-wall-st-drop-dead/>Pumas Unleashed”

#164 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 1:40 pm

@147: thecandypoem

Thank you for the link. I think after only reading two sentences I am going to like it.

#165 PumaDuma on 09.24.08 at 1:41 pm

Don’t be fooled by the BailOut crybabies. It’s not a good thing. The Tax Payer doesn’t need to be put on the hook for $700Gazillion dollars. The idea behind it is to break the Middle Class.. Taxpayers DO NOT FUND or Bail Out Corporations or Private Enterprise!

It’s UNConstitutional!

Read here for yourself in a 3pt continuing series rather than take someone word for it:

“http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/mccain-tells-wall-st-drop-dead/>Pumas Unleashed”

#166 Rodham in Flag on 09.24.08 at 1:41 pm

Newspaper information from Philadelphia BO talks to Gay Newspaper: OBAMA TALKS – MCCAIN BALKS

http://www.epgn.com

#167 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:41 pm

kempion — “rape” is a trigger word — please refrain.

Will you post a link to your blog? I’d like to read it.

thanks!

Mick — maybe we’ll convert you!

;-)

dwp and anna — thank you for all you’re doing!

#168 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 1:43 pm

I send emails out from the action center almost everyday. prowl done?

#169 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 1:43 pm

@163 PumaDuma,

Ya, I thought that was O’s plan, maybe his puppet master is in bed with our gov. and wall street.

This is just not normal that this happened. I think there is a much bigger problem here. I’ll see you link in a few..

#170 RedStateGuy on 09.24.08 at 1:45 pm

http://www.obamaresearch.com/

Check out this new book: “The Accomplishments of Senator Barack Hussein Obama”

Text from the site:
“A comprehensive, factual book about presidential candidate Barack Obama has finally been written. Based on hours of research, listening to dozens of speeches and discussing various topics with dozens of his supporters, this book accounts for all the presidential qualifications of Senator Barack Obama.

Some of the various topics this book discusses are:

* His Detailed Plans of Change
* His Senate Accomplishments
* His Presidential Qualifications
* Important Points He Has Made Without a Teleprompter or Prepared Script

This book includes a title page, a table of contents and a conclusion. Each book’s chapters, however, are BLANK!

*

Help your misguided friends ready to vote for Obama!
*

Infuriate your liberal sister or neighbor!
*

Straighten out a lost college student!
*

Grab a handful of copies and pass them out now! Help defeat The Messiah. Order your copies today!

#171 CTKEY on 09.24.08 at 1:45 pm

murphy…right click on Kempions name

#172 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:46 pm

kat #159 — wouldnt it be great if Sy Hirsch looked into Obama?

Think the New Yorker would publish that??

I dont THINK so!

#173 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:46 pm

CT Key — thanks, I will.

right after I give myself a dope slap.

#174 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 1:47 pm

Sometimes you need to laugh when others are sweating by the buckets.

Watch this video and have a good belly laugh :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAtmzjbCZOA

#175 mick on 09.24.08 at 1:49 pm

#157 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:36 pm

:shock: Yep, we have extremist on both sides. I don’t usually talk about politics with strangers either. I’ve had some very serious debates with friends/family BUT I stop the debate when I see that it’s getting too hot. I guess that’s how I’ve remained friends with my democratic friends.

I think having such talks are important because we can learn from each other. But sometimes people get too emotional and personal and it creates resentments.

#176 michelle47 on 09.24.08 at 1:52 pm

Does anyone have the link explaining Black liberation theology, trying to do a little converting.

Please and thank you!

#177 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:53 pm

murphy – you’re welcome.

dances – sent an attachment to the ac. could be helpful for today’s prowl.

#178 goodcitizen on 09.24.08 at 1:53 pm

I hope this is not a repeat link:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html

#179 murphy on 09.24.08 at 1:55 pm

asian4 — hi-LAIR-ious!!

I love those guys!

#180 Notyoursweetie on 09.24.08 at 1:55 pm

The ABC/WaPo poll results – accomplished by goosing (oversampling) the # of African Americans in the sampe. Why only them?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/oversampling-the-aas-wapoabc-poll/

#181 PumaDuma on 09.24.08 at 1:56 pm

Woopsy! (talkin on the phone to another puma)

Don’t be fooled by the BailOut crybabies. It’s not a good thing. The Tax Payer doesn’t need to be put on the hook for $700Gazillion dollars. The idea behind it is to break the Middle Class.. Taxpayers DO NOT FUND or Bail Out Corporations or Private Enterprise!

It’s UNConstitutional!

Read here for yourself in a 3pt continuing series rather than take someone word for it:

“Pumas Unleashed”

#182 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:57 pm

bobram and dances – once i finish my prowl, i will gladly help with media resources. not sure how bobram is finding them. cntacting chamber of commerce in target cities? yellow pages? once i’m available to help, perhaps we can exchange ideas as to how best to find this info. bobram, you’re an expert by now!

#183 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:58 pm

ps, by “my prowl” i mean a project of my own that i’m working on, not what was sent out today. mine will need a few more days to complete.

#184 thecandypoem on 09.24.08 at 1:59 pm

Why is Obama allowed to run for president? With his friendship with Bill Ayers, he would never be allowed to be a CIA or FBI agent. Are we ready to make this shadowy man our Commander in Chief?

#185 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 1:59 pm

#119 New Orleans Puma…sorry took a lunch break. No offense taken…thanks

#186 DancesWithPumas on 09.24.08 at 1:59 pm

182 Anna7000
That’s between you and Bobram. He’s the lead on that project.

#187 hebrew.que. on 09.24.08 at 2:00 pm

GOD HELP AMERICA TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT IN NOVEMBER.

Throw Away The Coin Of Obama

Open Our Eyes To The Enemy That Stands In Our Face

Stand For Your Country and Fight Your Enemy From -Within

Your Vote Is Your Sword

Fight Those Who Rise-Up With Him

Those Who Back, and Support Him

Those Who Advise Him

Those Whose Alliance He Will Forge

Our Country can not Withstand 8 Years Of Obama.

Julius Caesar became Dictator for Life and the first Roman to put his own portrait on a coin:

“Gaius Julius Caesar is one of t”he most famous men in history. At the end of his brilliant military and political career he had gained control of the Roman state. His puppet senate heaped more and more honors upon him. In February 44 B.C. the senate named him dictator for life. Many senators, however, feared that he wished to become king, ending the Republic. On the 15th of March 44 B.C., 63 senators attacked him with knives they had hidden in the folds of their togas. This most famous of assassinations plunged the Roman Republic into 17 years of civil war, after which it would re-emerge as the Roman Empire.”

#188 puma.sf1 on 09.24.08 at 2:01 pm

I just gotta say that whoever wrote that is a complete and utter moron without a clue or a touch of reality.

#189 DancesWithPumas on 09.24.08 at 2:02 pm

177 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:53 pm murphy – you’re welcome. dances – sent an attachment to the ac. could be helpful for today’s prowl.
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I’m at work.

#190 DancesWithPumas on 09.24.08 at 2:02 pm

177 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 1:53 pm murphy – you’re welcome. dances – sent an attachment to the ac. could be helpful for today’s prowl.
—————–
I work during the day.

#191 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 2:03 pm

@176 michelle47

This (interesting) 3 part video explains/ shows Obama’s black liberation theology.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/the-christian-heresy-of-barack-and-michelle-obama/

Also:

wiki’s “black liberation theology”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology

#192 Noblecascade on 09.24.08 at 2:03 pm

#63 Lilibet…and no offense taken from your kind words either.

#193 PumaDuma on 09.24.08 at 2:03 pm

It’s a beautiful day here. We Just put out 100 fliers at Faneuil Hall in downtown…

#194 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 2:04 pm

This is what I find appalling to the nth degree, people like Ayers call USA an “empire,” the problem is this, USA used to be an isolationist. In fact USA used to be contented being an isolationist, they don’t want to interfer what other countries are doing. Even during WW2 when Churchill and FDR had a meeting on board a ship, FDR made it clear USA don’t want to join the war in Europe as it was far from our shores but we will supply UK with weapons. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, that’s the time USA joined WW2.

Moving forward, after WW2 USA still remain isolationist. This country focus on building itself, until it becomes a powerhouse economically and militarily. In fact majority of big corporations in USA put Americans to work, Americans enjoyed a good life. Although we do trading with other countries (USA have created a surplus – we’ve become bread basket of the world). The Democrats in Congress are pushing for opening our market to foreign investors and for USA also to start sending money to foreign countries (who doesn’t like us) through foreign aids. Take for example Pakistan, 15% of their annual budget is from USA (foreign aid). As years goes by, anytime there’s trouble in any part of the world, foreign leaders expect USA to fix the problem while majority of the time European leaders drink their champagne in spite of the fact the problem is in their own backyard (Balkan war).

People like Ayers, NObama and other arseholes sitting in Congress are quick to point out we must do something about it; that’s how USA end up being called an “empire.” We’ve become police of the world by FORCE not voluntarily, because too many people out there in Congress are just plain dumb and stupid!

#195 mick on 09.24.08 at 2:04 pm

#176 michelle47 on 09.24.08 at 1:52 pm

A very good article here -

http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php

************************************

Does anyone have the link explaining Black liberation theology, trying to do a little converting.

Please and thank you!

#196 indy on 09.24.08 at 2:04 pm

I just read an article on why Hillary didn’t attend the Iran Protest Rally. The article says Obama’s position on Iraq is sophomoric and dangerous. Hillary has been more responsible and didn’t want to clean up Obama’s mess. It says her sight at 2012 are more important than presenting a united front against Ahmadinejad.

Here it is:

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-hillary-and-palins-disinvite.html

#197 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:05 pm

In appearance it must seem that I have been out of the loop. But not really. For financial reasons, I have had to travel to make money. But having said that,
I have been very much paying attention. My vote will go to McCain/Palin without any doubts. I have managed to give a little of my time making calls for McCain.
My partner is back from Argentina, and my 24 hour politics have had to be cut down some. Not that I want it that way !! As this sham of an election continues on, I am more and more sickened by NOBAMA and his gutter tactics to steal and cheat his way to the white house.

I am very afraid for my nation. And the media !!! CHRIST…….. When will they start reporting the truth about this THUG?? I love my country but I do not recognize it anymore.
The left wing nutcases have gone insane !! I don’t even know if I can ever be a Democrat again. The corruption runs so deep, and I have lost all respect for the dem leaders.
I just can’t imagine what in the HELL people are thinking who support NOBAMA. I can only assume that the truth eludes them, and they would rather walk in the dark shadow
of hope rather than actually know the facts.

My own Father has drank the koolaid. And as much as I hate to say this, my father is pretty much a racist. But he will cast his vote for the IDIOT. I find my self eluded and without
understanding about the ignorance that runs rampant in this country. And the nasty gutter, low life behavior NOBAMA and his cronies are showing. These are serious times in our
nation, and I just pray that good prevails over evil.

#198 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 2:05 pm

188

#199 Hispanic4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 2:07 pm

We need someone to get into the Acorn / Bo camp and record, sneak out doc’s, find out how corrup they are and bring them down….

#200 Asian4Hillary on 09.24.08 at 2:07 pm

BTW, Great Britain owed United States of America $350 million during WW2 for arms and weapons we provided that they haven’t paid, not a freaking dime. During the time of Bill Clinton, he had to write it off from Account Receivable because UK has no plan to pay their debt to us!

I bet 90% of the posters here don’t even know about that.

Maybe we should reverse the entry in our Federal Accounting book and start collecting money from these countries that owed USA by the millions plus interest amounted to BILLIONS OF DOLLARS! :twisted:

#201 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:08 pm

MURPHY @@@@ I miss you !

#202 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:11 pm

Kendal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HI :) Yeeeeee Hawwwwww!

#203 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 2:11 pm

the candy poem – the content of your post would make a great letter to the editor! it’s a huge issue and one that i believe the mc cain campaign will be focusing on increasinly. go for it!

#204 murphy on 09.24.08 at 2:12 pm

Hi Kendal!!

I miss you too!!

:-)

#205 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 2:12 pm

mick:
A very delayed “thank you.”

:lol:
:roll:
:cry:
:evil:
:cool:
Sorry, I got carried away!

#206 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:12 pm

TexasTigress…………..yeeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwww
texas girl. miss you !!

#207 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 2:13 pm

(((((((((((kendal)))))))))))))))))

#208 tennaseepuma on 09.24.08 at 2:14 pm

Has anyone seen this? I cant believe my state is changed…….This is not good.

http://w3.newsmax.com/a/morrismap/?s=al&promo_code=6B21-1

#209 Kempion on 09.24.08 at 2:15 pm

Murphy, apologies… I don’t intend to offend. I just don’t have any other words to describe what has happened.

My blog – http://kempion.blogspot.com/2008/09/we-joyfully-enslaved.html

#210 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 2:15 pm

Hispanic for Hillary – There’s plenty of into out there on the internet about this. I think lilibet noted yesterday that is you google “ACORN voter fraud” you get 179,000 hits. You could put together a great letter to send to the mediaa about this specific issue. AND, it’s central to all voter’s concerns since the election could literally be stolen. You’ve hit upon something very important that the media is not focusing on enough. Help them focus!

#211 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:16 pm

((((((((((((((Caracal Carrie )))))))))))))))))

miss you too..

#212 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 2:17 pm

I was just wondering where you have been yesterday!

#213 taggles1 on 09.24.08 at 2:18 pm

James Cone, founder of BLT, if you have 20 mins. watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1X5sZ6Q4Fw

#214 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:18 pm

I should be back full force by the end of this weekend.
I have missed all of you, and the work too. Puma’s are my family….you guys are great !! thanks for keeping up the hard work..

#215 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 2:19 pm

tennessee – i don’t know where dick morris gets his numbers. i’ve yet to see any electoral colllege map that looks like that. seems way off to me compared to other stuff i’ve seen. but, we should wait for our resident in-house polling expert, godzilla, to weight in on it.

#216 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 2:19 pm

The thing that gets me, is that the Clinton’s must have opposition reseach on O. They have to be aware of a lot. If they are actually serious about electing O, I do question their patriotism.

There is probably stuff going on behind the scenes.

I feel a mild sense of impending doom. We have Russia and Venezuela sitting in the Carribean, and Iran Prez Ahmadinejad gallivanting around NY at cocktail parties. The press in the tank for Obama. The DNC and many dem party big tops fighting so hard for Obama, to the point of it being bizarre and unethical. This huge economic collapse…

The “change” is already here, who are we kidding. I think it would be the best for our nation if Obama loses. But there might be serious repercussions. There is a big part of me that has seen how this has all gone down, and I think they will cheat to win. Don’t mean to sound defeatist because I am not. But everything is very sketchy.

#217 slyt2 on 09.24.08 at 2:20 pm

Ok Chris Rock is a f**king jerk (sorry but he really is) this is him on David Letterman last nite he was mad (to put it mildly that Bill Clinton didn’t say BO’s name enough
http://gawker.com/5053486/chris-rock-to-bill-clinton-hillary-lost
Then after you watch the video you can watch this one which is Bill’s response to Chris Rock
http://gawker.com/5054019/clinton-responds-to-chris-rock-on-obama

#218 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:21 pm

Caracal Carrie……..well, lots of reasons. My partner came back from Argentina. And we have a few house’s out of state that we have been restoring. AND……….When I am by myself, I have more time to do what I WANT TO DO. LOL……… but I will be back full force after this weekend. I have missed my puma’s…

#219 KENDALBLUE on 09.24.08 at 2:25 pm

have to run………..will log back on later….big hugs !!

#220 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:26 pm

Kendal – oh your partner came back after you haven’t seen each other forever and you haven’t been on here because you have been ‘restoring houses’ — ummm hmmm OoooooKKKKKKKK ;) lol

#221 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 2:26 pm

Well I am so glad to see you! we have missed you around here!

#222 A-Will on 09.24.08 at 2:27 pm

tennaseepuma – I am not sure this is acurate at all. It shows that my state – Washington is “strongly” behind Obama. Most of the other electoral maps indicate us to be “leaning” democratic. I believe we have a large silent Republican demographic that almost got the governorship 4 years ago.

#223 michelle47 on 09.24.08 at 2:27 pm

Kat…

Thank you very much!
Not very computer savvy here.

#224 utahpuma on 09.24.08 at 2:27 pm

I have already emailed/or faxed The Trojan Candidate to the media, state Dem and Repub parties, day before yesteday.

That should give them all food for thought!

#225 tennaseepuma on 09.24.08 at 2:28 pm

Kat, I agree with you. I have barely met anyone for Bozo in my town (highly Repub) yet I feel that he will win, I believe life as we know it will change forever.
I worry for my children and grandchildren,so much of what we knew in the 50s and 60s is gone already. What is the most damaging for us is the Electoral College is for Obama they way they were for Bush, On top of that Obama is related to Bush and Cheney.
40 out of 42 presidents have been related,the two that were not: Lincoln and JFK.

#226 utahpuma on 09.24.08 at 2:30 pm

kat in your hat

I would rather deal with the repercussions of Obama losing than the consequences if he wins.

#227 DancesWithPumas on 09.24.08 at 2:31 pm

188 puma.sf1

Are you on Southwest Region’s mailing list?
If so, is it okay if tehy give me your email address?
I have to speak with you sooner than later.
Thanks.

#228 murphy on 09.24.08 at 2:35 pm

“Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?”

http://www.slate.com/id/2200587/

#229 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 2:35 pm

LATEST RASUMUSSEN ELECTORAL MAP

New Hampshire just became a toss up states. Check out the map and think about targeting your actions to those states that are the most vulnerable.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update

#230 rlp33 on 09.24.08 at 2:35 pm

Is anyone hearing anything positive? Any good news our way.

I just would like to here some positve news not all doom and gloom.

please everyone, anything good???

We’ve got to believe we can do this…..

#231 sistermoon3 on 09.24.08 at 2:36 pm

question:

who is barak not related to?

#232 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:37 pm

#231 sistermoon3 _ ME !!!!

#233 murphy on 09.24.08 at 2:38 pm

rlp33 — Anna tells us that NH just became a toss-up state.

That’s good news!

#234 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 2:38 pm

@225:

Is that true? Is that the Skull n Bones…NWO…CFR stuff?

I get confused on that.

#235 murphy on 09.24.08 at 2:39 pm

rlp33– Christopher Hitchens in Slate magazine calls Obama “vapid, hesitant, and gutless.”

And Hitchens is a liberal!

That’s good news!

#236 A-Will on 09.24.08 at 2:40 pm

#195 – mick – is this what you are looking for?

http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114

#237 mimi1020 on 09.24.08 at 2:40 pm

#208 tennaseepuma

Don’t pay ANY attention to this…….It changes everyday – Trust me – there is NOWAY he will win FLA!

#238 atypical on 09.24.08 at 2:40 pm

I sent out a copy of the Ayres poem to 25 or so people today, under the subject heading,” Some insight?”
Also I wrote in parenthesis uner the title, (Yes, that Bill Ayres, Obama’s terrorist friend)
I also sent it to a couple of media outlets that I happened to have in my personal e-mail list, and to my congressman, a Republican, and to my Sen. HRC is also my Sen., but I don’t have an e-mail for her.

#239 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:42 pm

Carrie – I think this is a great idea . Would it be cool if we wrote just a short Statement as to WHY or HOW we came to be a PUMA ??? I love hearing each Puma’s path , we are soo diverse and eccletic .. I LOVE puma’s stories …
___________________________________
131 Caracal Carrie on 09.24.08 at 1:15 pm For anyone who didn’t see my posting earlier.

The website is coming along and I added new content yesterday and a new section today.

I am very ecited about the new section. It is called From The PUMAs. It’s for articles, opinions, comments on the site, or anything you PUMAS would like to submit on the site. Feel free to vent, pontificate, or just add your 2 cents. Just send me a submission from the contact us page and I will publish it to the site!

I am adding new stuff all of the time and I am no where near complete.

Who knew when I started this just how much crap was out there!?!

Go look around and be the first brave person to add a page to From the PUMAs!

http://puma-facts.com

#240 michelle47 on 09.24.08 at 2:42 pm

Kat, mick, taggles…

Thank you!

#241 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 2:43 pm

“The Man Who Never Was” (I haven’t read it yet)

“Tony Blankley writes a blistering critique today of the media’s failure to investigate and report the news seriously or fairly. He aptly labels Barack Obama The Man Who Never Was, claiming the real Obama is nothing like the caricature painted by the media. A media is accused of being “straight-out propagandists for the Obama campaign….[where] for the first time, the major media consciously are covering for one candidate for president and consciously are knifing the other. This is no longer journalism; it is simply propaganda.”

And as a result, we are less than seven weeks away from possibly electing a president who has not been thoroughly or even halfway honestly presented to the country by our watchdogs — the press. The image of Obama that the press has presented to the public is not a fair approximation of the real man. They consciously have ignored whole years of his life and have shown a lack of curiosity about such gaps, which bespeaks a lack of journalistic instinct.

Thus, the public image of Obama is of a “man who never was”……

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/24/the-man-who-never-was/

#242 hebrew.que. on 09.24.08 at 2:46 pm

Murphy-Can we FOCUS, BRAINSTORM, HAVE PUMAS REPORT ON THE BLOG “WHAT ACTION THEY DID FOR THE DAY”. WE REALLY NEED TO CONCENSTRATE ON THE TOSS UP STATES. Getting Out Flyers In Places of Business, Bulletin Boards, talking to friends, relatives and neighbors.

#243 sistermoon3 on 09.24.08 at 2:47 pm

I was just sitting here thinking

wow, what would sarah palin wear at the ball if mccain and she wins, i bet she will look stunning:)
just a though

#244 sistermoon3 on 09.24.08 at 2:47 pm

thought

#245 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 2:48 pm

REVAMPED FLYER TEXT FOR A LETTER TO THE MEDIA FOR ANYONE TO USE.
———————————————-
To all interested parties:

I am writing as a concerned citizen regarding our upcoming Presidential election. My research on both candidates has resulted in significant questions regarding Barack Obama’s qualifications which I would like to pose to the media, and if my letter is printed, to the readership of your publication:

Is it ok to nominate for President of the United States a man with virtually no experience on the national or international stage? In addition, do you feel comfortable with nominating someone who found it acceptable to remain an active member of a church that espoused hateful rhetoric and which elevated Louis Farrakhan to great heights by honoring him with a Lifetime Achievement award. Surely there are countless outstanding African-Americans in the United States worthy of such an honor without having to select an individual who has gone on record as stating that he thinks Hitler was a “great man”.

And is it acceptable that we nominate an individual who has a history of associating himself with a coterie of criminals and/or terrorists? And if that is alright, is it also ok that the man we nominate minimizes or claims innocence about these relationships?

Are you comfortable with nominating someone who has shifted their position on so many issues in such a short amount of time that it is unprecedented for a Presidential candidate? And can we afford to ignore the fact that we nominate a person who, as a state senator, avoided controversial issues by voting “present” a disproportionately frequent number of times?

Does anyone care if we nominate someone who, as a state senator, ignored the plight of impoverished individuals and families, most of whom were African American, living in deplorable, sub-standard housing conditions in his congressional district? And is that is acceptable, is it also ok that the nominee would have befriended the very person who was the slumlord of those housing units, and that he should accept seed money from this now convicted felon in order to kick start his campaign?

Is there any reason for concern that a Presidential nominee who touts equal pay for equal work pays his female staffers 78 cents on the dollar as compared to his male staffers?

And what of nominating a man for President who during a press conference after winning his senate seat, tells the press corps and the American public, that he will not run for President, citing lack of experience, who then proceeds to run for President?

These are some of my profound concerns. I hope you will address them in the coming days as these issues deserve to be front and center in our current political discourse.

Sincerely,

#246 rlp33 on 09.24.08 at 2:48 pm

How many have changed peoples minds?

Who were for Obama but are now for McCain…..Are we making any progress there?

#247 Anna7000 on 09.24.08 at 2:49 pm

rlp33 – “Believing” we can do this is great, but acting is even better. It helps to improve the chances of having the outcome we want.

#248 john on 09.24.08 at 2:49 pm

Gallup, PPP, Research 2000 and Quinnipiac are paid by Obama. Their Obama pollsters. CNN, ABC, Washington, NBC, and CBS are news organizations and should not be taking national polls. I prefer polls done in the state by the news people of that state. Again the national polls are only to manipulate the masses. The key to victory is FL, OH, PA and MI. win 3 out of those states and you win simple as that. McCain will win FL and OH, if the GOP can stop all the dead democrats from voting. I believe McCain will win either PA or Michigan. I would say he has a very good chance of winning those bitter, gun clinging folks in PA

#249 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:50 pm

Mccain suspends campaign and challenges Obama to also suspend to fix the financial crisis !!!!!

#250 PumaDuma on 09.24.08 at 2:50 pm

YAY!

Sunlight and Krugman siding with NO BAILOUT!

Paul Krugman nailed it here tongue in cheek!

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/2... If the taxpayers are going to get fleeced one more time by having to bail out companies who reward their people for risky speculation, then let’s get some assets too.

Heck, let’s get all of those assets, shall we?

Personally I want to see as many of the guilty parties — those who could have done the right thing and didn’t — lose everything too. I want to hear about culpability and punishment, not how much free money the banks get for squandering our money on bailouts and ruining our investments with their worthless financial instruments.

I want to see disincentives built strategically into the next system that include asset forfeiture and hard time. This is not a game, it’s people’s lives, their jobs, their retirement, and their hard work that’s being sacrificed on Wall Street this month. Bailing these fools out, even if we must, is odious and obscene.

For the full Monty:

http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/mccain-tells-wall-st-drop-dead/

#251 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:50 pm

MCCAIN SUSPENDS CAMPAIGN – TUNE INTO FOX !

#252 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:52 pm

May not be a debate this week . he challenged XO to also suspend !!!!!!

#253 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:53 pm

Am I yelling to my self ??? I should quiet down :)

#254 rlp33 on 09.24.08 at 2:53 pm

What does that mean??? McCain suspends campaign for the financial crises….

#255 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:54 pm

Asked debate to be postponed !!!

#256 gocleffnote on 09.24.08 at 2:54 pm

Here’s a new video about the orange pantsuit some of you may want to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxGQdf6WfWo

#257 ontherocks on 09.24.08 at 2:54 pm

McCain is taking a huge risk. I say good for him!!!

#258 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:54 pm

Mccain and xo are both senators and mccain says it’s their DUTY to pass legislation on this bankiing crisis .

#259 A-Will on 09.24.08 at 2:55 pm

#250 – PumaDuma – Sorry, no can do. This crisis affects all of us, not just Wall Street.

#260 ontherocks on 09.24.08 at 2:56 pm

McCain is a smart man. I wonder what BO is going to do???

#261 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:56 pm

XO loses either way – either he FOLLOWS MCCain back to DC OR he blows off the banking crisis !!!

#262 A-Will on 09.24.08 at 2:58 pm

Whoo Hoo!!! Way to LEAD McCain! :) I can’t believe I’m rooting for a Republican. LOL! This is too funny!

#263 kat in your hat on 09.24.08 at 2:59 pm

ooh, did you hear that:

McCain says this is a national crisis. Wants to delay debate. Hold off on campaigning.

Does Obama *follow* McCain’s *lead*?

Or does he oppose and appear to be incompetant, or like he doesn’t care about us?

“Big Move by McCain”

#264 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 2:59 pm

This is just a BRILLIANT political move – smells Rovian , and it is BRILLIANT .

#265 murphy on 09.24.08 at 2:59 pm

Bailout post up,

please repost comments wrt to the bailout or other actions.

take it upstairs!

#266 TexasTigress on 09.24.08 at 3:00 pm

Even MORE of a bonus – I bet MC is going to PUSH for Sen. Clintons plan on the Crisis !!!!!!!

#267 A-Will on 09.24.08 at 3:01 pm

I love the CNN homepage today. It has Obama and Biden’s hypocritical stance on the Bridge to Nowhere.

#268 rlp33 on 09.24.08 at 3:02 pm

I would say this is good news right?
(McCain suspending campaign for crisis)

Shows that he is putting the country first…..right?

#269 gocleffnote on 09.24.08 at 3:04 pm

Henerietta your assessment for the need of the bail out is spot on. Thank you for sharing this with us.

#270 lilibet on 09.24.08 at 3:08 pm

Well, I can’t stand Christopher, but I sure do likee his description of Obama.

Oh, oh McCain is speaking about the financial crisis right now. Suspending campaign temporarily.

#271 michelle47 on 09.24.08 at 3:09 pm

McCain is again thinking- CHECKMATE!

#272 gocleffnote on 09.24.08 at 3:09 pm

Kempion in response to your saying that the AIG’s loss was small and that there isn’t really a problem is odd. The stock market is all about perception and buying and selling in order to make money. The perception was that AIG was failing and therefore, their company paper became virtually worthless. We can’t allow that to happen. This does not just affect us and our retirement and the economy of the US, it affects the whole world. Please study a little economics before yall get on this bandwagon.

#273 Middle age female on 09.24.08 at 3:14 pm

McCain’s statement is HUGE. Now we will wait to see what BO’s next move is.

#274 webfoot on 09.24.08 at 3:25 pm

McCain suspension-one of my local stations just reported that BO’s camps response was that they called McCain’s campaign six hours ago and suggested the plan.

#275 webfoot on 09.24.08 at 3:27 pm

Sexism-
Here’s a letter I wrote to the McCain campaign a little bit ago:
Dear Senator McCain,

My husband and I have noticed that when reporters and anchors on the news are commenting on the political race you are referred to as Senator McCain just as the Democrats are referred to as “senator.” Yet, Governor Palin is referred to as Sarah Palin. This deliberate absence of her title has a two-fold purpose in my opinion.
One is sexist; it minimizes her in relation to the men in the race. They are afforded the respect of their titles; she is not.
The second reason they do not use her title is that it keeps attention away from her executive experience.
I suggest, in the future, that instead of introducing her at rallies and meetings as Sarah Palin she is introduced as Governor Palin. With an emphasis on “Governor.”

#276 blondlady on 09.24.08 at 4:46 pm

Obama talking now on Fox regarding the bailout. This is so blatantly staged, it could have been pre-recorded.

#277 ipotter on 09.24.08 at 4:50 pm

On the comment above, it could have been made by my significant other. He’s a great guy other than he has become a obot. Anyone else have to deal with that crap in their household? Just wondering. I’m not doing too good a job of it lately and would like some pointers. Don’t get me wrong, no way in hell bo gets my vote. But the “great uniter” has not only divided the democratic party, but he is probably going to split this household.

#278 storytellers on 09.24.08 at 5:07 pm

I just walk in
& read about MCCAIN in the blog, this is really good shows character, responsibility, determination and judgement>>>>>>>>>GREAT
I turned on CNN int. and there was mrpimppoverty with blabla. just turned off do not want to listen to trash

what happen to the posts from 3:27 to4:46??

#279 jane-pa on 09.24.08 at 5:33 pm

well Bo says a president has to do more than one thing at a time.

This is why he has chaired a committee for Afganistan and nato-not ont metting -he was campaigning
The Black state of union missed him cause he was campaigning couldnt do both.

So he is telling us now to bad for reg america I am out to win. What a dutzie/

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