Satan is the King of the So-Called Reality Based Community, in case you were wondering. Read on.
The Palin effect
by kos
Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 07:00:26 PM PDT
PPP teases us about their Colorado poll tomorrow, giving us a “clue”:
Date 9-9 9-21
Palin Favorability 41/38 38/47
Spread Obama +1 ?What’s PPP getting at here? Obviously, that a -12 point collapse in Palin’s net favorability will have an impact on McCain’s numbers.
With Palin neutralized (and there’s a reason they’re hiding her from view), it’s much easier to knock down McCain on the economy, his desire to deregulate healthcare just like Wall Street, his lies, and so on.
Again, for those who counseled leaving Palin alone because she was too popular and because it took attention off McCain, had we done so, she’d be entrenched as a woman of the people, propping up the Republican ticket. Instead, she’s been relegated to the far less glamorous (and helpful) task of keeping the GOP base intact, nothing more. She may be popular with the base, but people outside wingnut circles aren’t impressed.
Um, Satan, I know your job is to deliver the DONC Talking Points (Unqualified! Slut! Bimbo!) but damn! that must be one hell of a dose you have to take to quell the cognitive dissonance. “Hiding her from view”?? You mean like this,
Or maybe, like this?
Headline in Miami Herald this morning: Sarah Palin Excites Huge Florida Crowd More photo evidence of Palin’s dwindling popularity HERE.
Meanwhile, there’s news that Obama is talking to partially empty halls these days. His speech yesterday drew 4,000 fewer than the previous week in the same location.
Hey! Where’d everyone go?!
Over 10,000 waited up to 5 hours to hear Palin yesterday in Florida. Biden’s biggest draw has been about 2,500. (Oh, and Biden, or King Gaffer as I like to call him, is now forced to walk back yesterday’s remarks about Obama’s “terrible” decision to air an ad ridiculing McCain’s war injuries. For some reason I have an image in my head of a dog chasing its tail in a panicked, out of control spin. Sigh. Should have picked Hillary.)
Jeralyn, for one, has heard her marching orders clearly and is “100%” on board with continuing the onslaught:
We wrote days ago that Gov. Sarah Palin had peaked when polls began to show a noticeable decline in her favorability ratings.
PPP will have a new Colorado poll out this morning. They offer one stat as a teaser. Palin’s favorability rating in the has dropped 3 points and her unfavorable rating has increased 9 points.
I’m 100% with Markos of Daily Kos on this. . .
Great, you can safely hold your breath while we wait for the first round of slime to be hurled from the Democratic Keepers of Swamp Misogyny. This is a good one, an ad currently running on several of Da Boiz’z blogs:
(get it? A “BUSH” we can’t trust? ha-ha! we said “bush”! Thanks to Melissa McKewan)
Oh, and the Freudian projection is almost too much to bear these days. Naomi Wolf, card-carrying member of the So-Called Reality Based Community (SCRBC), raises the Panic Flag about, get this, how our open society is being threatened by a weak figurehead candidate backed by a mysterious cabal and inserted into office using election fraud and corruption! Lordy, lordy. She also lets loose a Freudian slip at the end, corrected in my brackets:
You have to understand how things work in a closing society in order to understand “Palin Power.” A gang or cabal seizes power, usually with an affable, weak figurehead at the fore. Then they will hold elections — but they will make sure that the election will be corrupted and that the next affable, weak figurehead is entirely in their control. Remember, Russia has Presidents; Russia holds elections. Dictators and gangs of thugs all over the world hold elections. It means nothing. When a cabal has seized power you can have elections and even presidents, but you [can't] have freedom.
Sheesh.
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#446 indy (from downstairs)
“Obama wanted to create an agency to investigate this financial debacle. However, there is such an agency in place already, the Government Accounting Office (GAO).”
This just sums up how the guy operates….create another money hungry agency to blow millions more dollars to investigate why we’re having to shell out billions of dollars……
First? how’d that happen?
Hello PUMAs,
I may not agree with Palin on some of the issues, but I do like her.
Top 5?
Nice read Murphy!
I’m still here Puma’s. I miss you all. Have been out of the state working on a house. But have managed to take a few hours once in awhile to make calls for McCain Palin. My vote is going there. I miss all of you very much. I will have more free time in a few weeks.
big hugs…..!!
Hello PUMAs -
These people are despicable!
Oh, and regarding their claims of “hiding” Palin, how do you suppose they will respond to Obama’s retreat into a bunker for the next 3 days to prepare for his debate with MCCain? A guy running for President puts everything on hold for 3 entire days for ONE appearance? You think the World is going to give him 72 hours to respond to every tense situation or crisis a President faces?
#5 KENDALBLUE miss you!!
I believe in press coverage but this year the press want total control of political perception. Therefore I love when the Press feels snub. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13783.html NEW YORK – Journalists, displeased with Sarah Palin’s efforts to restrict their access to her, are threatening not to cover her events surrounding the United Nations conference here unless they’re allowed more access.
The unfolding boycott is the latest development in a rocky relationship between Palin’s handlers and the press, in which the campaign has sought to tightly control her interactions with the media.
just announced on fox news a man caught sneaking onto BO’s property after they got him they search his car and he had a weapon. That is all the details so far.
Opps sorry (((((((Kendalblue)))))))) how you doing..
Oh, a couple of you asked about Ethics Committee? Dems have one and Repubs have one. Pelosi said she hasn’t seen anything that warrants anyone going before the Ethics Committee……… it’s up to the people (PUMAs) to put up a fight!!!!
1gypsy4mc@@@@ I miss you to sweetie !! hope you are well. I haven’t even had the time to check my gmail. But will send you an email so we can catch up.
NOW ON CSPAN 2: Treasury Sec; Head of FED; and SEC appearing before Senate committee re bailout. Not to be missed.
Murphy: Great thread..!
#7 grizzly…well said!!! I’m lol just thinking about the picture you put in my head. BO in a bunker..low ceilings, standing at podium, and his 300 “advisors” questioning him..with sweat pouring off him, and saying
“enough..enough..can’t we get the questions first?”
slyt2 @@@@@ I am well, just been busy remodeling a house. I hope you are well too. I miss you. all of you. I will be trying to get back on here and getting back to work.
PRINCETON, NJ — U.S. voters are closely divided in their 2008 presidential preferences, with 47% favoring Barack Obama and 44% backing John McCain.
Obama’s three percentage point advantage over McCain in today’s report, based on Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Sept. 20-22, is within the margin of error for the survey. Obama led the race by a slightly greater margin of four and six points in each of the previous five Gallup Poll Daily election updates (starting with last Thursday’s report). http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/Gallup-Daily-Election-2008.aspx
McCain’s poll numbers went up because of Palin, went back down because of Palin and will go back up again because of Palin.
Fighting the Palin smears, exposing the unfair editing of her Gibson interview, getting her more good media coverage, and getting Saturday Night Live to tone it down, this is how to beat Obama.
IF she kicks Biden’s ass in the debate. IF the debate is fair.
Whether or not we agree with this kid and his father, he does have a right to free speech. Doesn’t he? Or have we drifted that far away from shore in this ocean of kool-aid ?
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Fifth Grader Suspended For Wearing Anti-Obama Shirt
by FOXNews.com
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
An 11-year-old boy in Colorado was suspended from school after he refused to take off a shirt that read, “Obama is a terrorist’s best friend.” His father says that the school is violating his son’s First Amendment rights.
Daxx Dalton, a fifth grader at Aurora Frontier K-8 School in Aurora, Colo., wore the homemade shirt on a day when students were asked to show their patriotism by wearing red, white and blue, according to MyFOXColorado.com.
When he was given the choice of turning the shirt inside out or being suspended, Dalton chose suspension.
“They’re taking away my right of freedom of speech,” he said. “If I have the right to wear this shirt I’m going to use it. And if the only way to use it is get suspended, then I’m going to get suspended.”….
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/23/fifth-grader-suspended-for-wearing-anti-obama-shirt/
16 KENDALBLUE Whenever you get the time, ok? I was going to email you this morning….. weird, hu?
#15 Mary Beth613
That visual will keep me going for at least 3 days! Thanks!
1gypsy4mc @@@@@@@@ kindered spirit. right blue?
lol……….I’ll shoot you an email this evening ….
Great post, Murphy, as always!
TexasTigress,
The Indy is for Independent. I have been an Independent for over 35 years.
Although I am a moderate with a lean to the left, I have always mixed my vote each time because I like the Dems and Reps to look over each others shoulders. Try to keep them honest. At least I try.
I haven’t voted for a Republican since Nixon in 1968, he said he was going to end the Vietnam right away. Right. Seems like, this year, there’s a certain candidate promising to withdraw all our troops from Iraq within the next 16 months. Sound familiar
#9 sandtraps,
Maybe the press are using that as an excuse not to cover her (hiding Palin).
Maybe it’s part of the ONC’s new plan.
FOX NEWS-RESPOND to a QUESTION
Fox just a poll showing how many Hillary supporters have got on board behind nobo.
June 58%
September 58%
They want people to write in as to why they think this number hasn’t changed:
americas-talking@foxnews.com
I juse got on board
from the last thread.
I do not believe that Obama has to answer any questions on the Berg Lawsuit as yet because I do not believe that the Judge has signed the order for him to answer any questions. I could be wrong. but my understanding from the web site it that the request was made but not acted on by the judge.
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
is the web site run by Berg himself.
448 Silence Dogood on 09.23.08 at 12:42 pm #7 mijabsnji
Popular vote would be a very bad thing. Presidential candidates would only concentrate on densely populated areas and cities. Entire areas would be completely ignored. No campaigning, no money spent, no issues addressed.
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That is a valid point about sparsely populated areas losing it to densely area, but we can still count the popular vote at a 25% of the simple majority need to win the presidency.
In 2008 there are a total of 538 electoral votes.
270 votes – a simple majority – are needed to win the presidency.
Ie., 25% of 270 votes = 67 electoral votes.
Thus, 471 electoral votes spread amongst the 50 states and the winning candidate of each state will acquire the designated number of electoral votes for that state and then the candidate with the popular vote automatically received 67 votes.
That seem to me fair and equitable.
TOPIC: CAUCUS
Anna7000,
Had to leave a message at the Office of my Prowl assignment – maybe they’re understaffed there, who knows. So we’ll have to be patient gathering our preliminary prowl info!
I can be a patient PUMA and also, remember Rome wasn’t built in a day, and COLUMBO didn’t solve cases in a day, either, ha-ha!
As soon as I gather my info. I will email it to you, fyi.
Gallop shows the BO lead narrowing to 3%. I sent them the following comments through their website:
I have been following the election results and have been very disturbed to see some anomalies starting in September when McCain started to lead in the polls. We are hearing that you changed your basis on DEM/REP sampling and that you are now calling the Obama supporters on their cell phones. I thought you had more integrity.
I also noticed that you did not post the gender breakdown for the second week of September. I hope that Gallup is not contributing to the death of journalism in this country by selectively releasing selective information.
I can add, subtract, multiply and divide.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/networks-revolt-against-r_n_128608.html
Murphy,
Isn’t it interesting how even Huffpo has it’s own separate link for Palin on the top of their site? Wow they must be sooo scared, haha.
You know I think it was a smart move on McCain’s part – very smart – to keep Palin isolated from the media a bit. The media are like attack dogs right now.
All I think that we need to do a prowl to congress regarding the large bailout. It should not be approved without a lot of restrictions. We the tax payers are going to be paying this for the rest of our lives if we do not act. Anyone has any suggestions on letters to send congress?
29 Headclunker on 09.23.08 at 1:14 pm Gallop shows the BO lead narrowing to 3%. I sent them the following comments through their website:
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Did they forget again,to post that the margin of error is +or -3.5%
MURPHY:
This is a very long post, so you can delete it if you want.
I took it off the Hillary Village site.
Lynette Long is NOT JUST VOTING FOR John McCain and Sarah Palin…
Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008
Washington Post, Sunday, September 21, 2008
Switching From Clinton To Palin: Pride Or Provocation?
Lynette Long’s friends can barely sputter their objections. “How could you?” they say. “What about the environment? What about gay rights? What about Roe v. Wade?”
Long’s son calls, flabbergasted. And her patients in affluent, liberal Bethesda? They can hardly fathom it.
Lynette Long — psychologist, feminist, Democrat, DuPont Circle dweller, Whole Foods shopper, George Bush hater, Hillary Clinton supporter (to the max) — is not just voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin, she even took the stage at their rally in Fairfax to trumpet her decision to the world.
Long got the call from the McCain campaign at 10 the night before the rally this month. With a twinkle in her eye, the struggle for women in her heart and a bit of mischief in her mind, she agreed to be a warm-up speaker for the Republican ticket.
She had never been to a candidate’s rally before. She had voted for the Democrat for president in every election except for the elder George Bush’s first time, against Michael Dukakis in 1988. Sure, she had demonstrated against the Vietnam War, but she basically wasn’t the political type. That is, until Hillary Clinton came along.
All of a sudden, Long saw hope. As she told her son: “How would you feel if every day all the people you saw in authority were men, all the statues in Washington are all men, the money in your pocket, all pictures of men — and then finally, a woman comes along and she could be president? How would you feel? I would vote for her.”
Long didn’t just vote for Clinton in the D.C. primary. She blogged for her, campaigned for her, even wrote op-ed columns about her. But as Clinton’s campaign faltered, Long felt wronged. She blogged about purported irregularities in caucus voting, accused Barack Obama and his supporters of taking women for granted, put all her hope in the Democrats picking a woman for vice president.
After Clinton’s campaign ended, Long was among a group of local supporters who called McCain headquarters, asking, “What can you do for us?” To Long’s shock, they were invited to a meeting — with McCain himself.
“We told him we wanted gender parity, on the Supreme Court and in the Cabinet, and he listened,” she says. “His eyes opened.” At meeting’s end, a senior staffer asked Long if she would endorse their man publicly.
“No way,” Long said. “I’m a Hillary supporter.”
Then, lo and behold, Sarah Palin happened.
By coincidence, Long was on an Alaskan cruise that week. “Everybody there loved” Palin, Long says. “I could see people glowing with pride.”
The next time the McCain campaign called, Long was ready. She had 10 hours to write a speech, sleep and get herself to Fairfax City.
“What do you want me to say?” she asked the organizer. “Do you want to see my speech?”
Whatever you want to say, she was told. And no, we don’t need to see it.
“I was shocked,” Long says. “I wouldn’t let someone go up and speak without seeing the speech. But they did, and that told me something about the man.”
Long agrees that Palin is not exactly, um, worldly, and that she lacks a certain base of knowledge. (“But I know character and instincts, and she is real.”) And yes, Long vehemently disagrees with the Republicans’ social conservatism.
But other factors trump those issues, she says, naming Obama’s inexperience, Clinton’s treatment by her party and the media, and the Democrats’ failure to choose a female running mate.
The issue that has most of Long’s friends recoiling in abject horror from her decision is abortion. Long calls herself unwaveringly “pro-choice.” But, she says, “as long as we let that determine our votes, we are hostages to the Democrats. If someone really tried to turn around choice, there’d be a revolution in this country. And I’m not going to let a future possibility nullify my vote. Women have sacrificed our power as the largest voting bloc in the nation because of one issue, abortion.”
Now hold on: Long disagrees with McCain on many issues and concedes Palin’s limitations. Then, when her e-mail lights up with unfounded rumors that Obama might dump Joe Biden and switch to Hillary Clinton, she nearly explodes with excitement. Is she really pro-McCain, or is she just being provocative?
Long is the kind of person who is drawn to a fire, she grants that. She says she wore her Palin button to the Whole Foods on 14th Street NW just to see if she’d get a rise out of the assembled crunchies. No one would even look her in the eye, she reports.
She seems downright gleeful as she describes her fellow liberals’ faces draining of blood when she sings Palin’s praises. But when I suggest that the McCain camp is using her even as she uses it to teach fellow Democrats a lesson about taking women for granted, she says: “No, that’s too crass. You have to break down a house to rebuild it, but Palin is likable, popular and has integrity. She’s a person who will listen. Is she smart enough to do the job? Hey, Reagan was no brain surgeon, but people would follow him. It’s about leadership. Sarah has made mistakes, but out of naiveté, not out of corruption.”
Every couple of minutes, Long — looking like the unPalin in black T-shirt, cargo pants and canvas sneakers — reflexively checks her e-mail, revealing a new list of fire-spewing rants accusing her of betrayal, sexism and worse. She loves it.
I posit that her newfound activism is really more about sticking it to Democratic men than about any real belief that McCain might promote the interests of women or that Palin would be a good president should she ascend to that role. Long protests that she really would be happy with a President Palin, a woman who understands the majority of Americans as no man could.
And then she says this: “I just don’t understand how the Democrats couldn’t see that women wanted a woman. I’m not getting back in bed with someone who’s just abused me. Yeah, it’s payback time.”
(Sent by taylorgrob)
If the school has a rule in place about wearing shirts with slogans than they can ask the kid to take the shirt off or turn it inside out.
I’m with the school on this one.
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#19 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.23.08 at 1:03 pm
Whether or not we agree with this kid and his father, he does have a right to free speech. Doesn’t he? Or have we drifted that far away from shore in this ocean of kool-aid ?
10 slyt2 on 09.23.08 at 12:56 pm just announced on fox news a man caught sneaking onto BO’s property after they got him they search his car and he had a weapon. That is all the details so far.
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He wasn’t doing anything wrong except he overstepped some sort of a boundary.
I think this is more of Axelrod hype to get attention and sympathy for Obama…. Not going to work!
#32 TerryDo
No, they maintained enough semblence of dignity to say that the difference was negligable at this point. I have some background in statistics and there is more to it than comparing the two points. There is also a statistical significance to the trend.
For instance, 2 out of 3 consecutive points being out of the 2 sd limits have a similar statistical significance to 1 point being out of the 3 sd limit. (sd=standard deviation). Comparing two trends gets somewhat more complicated but can be considered along the same lines.
I never saw this, I was just digging around and found it for anyone interested.
http://elect2009.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/breaking-obamas-hollywood-gala-where-cameras-werent-allowed-think-again/
#35
that might be the very o team to divert the attention from lawsuit ¡¡¡¡maybe????
#25 diva2: i just sent fox my response to their query about the lack of movement from HRC to Obobo.
Just love the T-shirt, check it out, he definitely wore something with red, white and blue LOL
19 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.23.08 at 1:03 pm
Whether or not we agree with this kid and his father, he does have a right to free speech. Doesn’t he? Or have we drifted that far away from shore in this ocean of kool-aid ?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/23/fifth-grader-suspended-for-wearing-anti-obama-shirt/
Daxx Dalton, a fifth grader at Aurora Frontier K-8 School in Aurora, Colo., wore the homemade shirt on a day when students were asked to show their patriotism by wearing red, white and blue, according to MyFOXColorado.com.
#25 diva2 just wrote my letter.
#35 TerryDo I was wondering about that I mean they said one thing about it and never came back to it and god knows if it was serious it would be all over tv talking about it. Thanks for letting me know they just said creeping and then weapon and that was it…
americas-talking@foxnews.com
My nice email to them on Hillary supporters falling in line….
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Hey, where you coming up with these numbers of Hillary supporters falling in line with Obama?
Not me, sweetie.
Not my daughter.
Not my friends….have lots and lots of friends.
Not my family.
No one I know.
Do a real poll would you? Hit the heart of America.
Not falling in line,
Puma Democrat
McCain/Palin 2008
NOBAMA/NOBIDEN/NOWAY/NOVEMBER
Debbie in the battleground state of OHIO.
36 Headclunker on 09.23.08 at 1:26 pm #32 TerryDo
No, they maintained enough semblence of dignity to say that the difference was negligable at this point.
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Thanks Headclunker, but I have seen many polls and most do not show the margin of error and so I am suspicious of their polls.
#33 lilibet
Thanks for that post. Definitely worth the read.
#26 GoHillaryGo *61, Dean and the FEC were served. The judge does not have to sign an order for them to respond. They have so many days to ask for it to be “Dismissed” or answer. If they do not answer, that is what Berg is saying on filing a default in his favor.
Palin drew over 60,000 in The Villages in FL according to the Fire Chief with no “music” to draw the crowds. *61 is losing and will loss!! The coverage for him and the remarks his bots made on TV = more votes for McCain/Palin! Thank you *61!
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
Lillibet: thank you and TaylorGrob for the above read; these women are to be noted for their spunk and stamina.
Sara Palin is not Hillary but she does have a character of her own that I find likeable. She appears to be for the good of this nation, speaks well, loves her family, supports her daughter and is the rose in Jonh McCain lapel. For she has energized a party that had been on it’s last leg to reeling in sixty thousand folks to hear her speak. Sometimes as BC said, you have to look beyond qualifications and look at the character of the person and Sara’s certainly outshines that of Obama/Biden.
#33 lillibet…Sarah has made mistakes, but out of naiveté, not out of corruption” And that to me says it all!
turn on Fox..their talking about Hillary supporters and why they aren’t falling in line…and what Bill Clinton has to say about Palin..now
OOps… I owe an apology. When I sent my email to fox about why the numbers aren’t changing, I just forwarded part of an email I’d sent to my address book including the talking points from the action center…. just realized I didn’t include the site address or credit to the author with it. My deepest apologies. I also sent it from my personal email w/ my full name….
just not thinking today. Hope it doesn’t cause any problems.
A gang or cabal seizes power, usually with an affable, weak figurehead at the fore. Then they will hold elections — but they will make sure that the election will be corrupted and that the next affable, weak figurehead is entirely in their control.
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She’s talking about the DNC and BO, right??????? I mean, that’s what’s been happening with them, no???????
well, i watched the president give his last speech at the un and watched the arrogant iranian president’s facial expression…what a joke
the cameras were flashing like lightning as sarah met with the afghanistan president so I can tell you there were reporters there, of course we know what the dems will say already, oh what a great photo opp….
like the great obami trip to europe was not a photo opp
….anyone ever hear anymore about his supposedly asking for a troop withdrawl delay?
HELP PLEASE
My filing system has not worked too well. I have misplaced the long list of all BO’s documents/records that have never been seen, ie: his birth certificate, his college applications, his college records, his Illinois state records, etc.. Does anyone have that please? Thanks
ARTICLE RE: OBAMA MAKING LITTLE HEADWAY WINNING OVER CLINTON SUPPORTERS:
http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-hillary-s-voters
oh by the way, the view ladies said this am they want sarah on their show….LOLOLOLOLOLOL them and everyone else
Sorry, hello everyone! I was so excited about getting on here before noon, CA time, I forgot my manners!
THIS IS SICK! Ahmadinejad on Larry King Live tonight:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
#1 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.23.08 at 12:47 pm
#446 indy (from downstairs)
“Obama wanted to create an agency to investigate this financial debacle. However, there is such an agency in place already, the Government Accounting Office (GAO).”
This just sums up how the guy operates….create another money hungry agency to blow millions more dollars to investigate why we’re having to shell out billions of dollars……
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It sums up BO’s inexperience – he probably didn’t know the agency exists…
I’ve always admired Lynette Long and that has not changed. The more vocal we are the more the DNP will get the message, that no you cannot win without us, and yes..you have lost us for ever!!!
Reposted from downstairs.
447 TerryDo on 09.23.08 at 12:39 pm
I would say this is another Clinton endorsement, would you?
As reported on Fox blog:
Bill Clinton said Monday he understands why Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is popular in the American heartland: because people relate to her.
“I come from Arkansas, I get why she’s hot out there, why she’s doing well.”
“People look at her, and they say, ‘All those kids. Something that happens in everybody’s family, I’m glad she loves her daughter and she’s not ashamed of her. Glad that girl’s going around with her boyfriend. Glad they’re going to get married.”‘
“I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They’re wonderful children. They’re wonderful people.
And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy!”
“I get this,” Clinton said. “My view is … why say, ever, anything bad about a person?
Why don’t we like them and celebrate them and be happy for her elevation to the ticket?
And just say that she was a good choice for him and we disagree with them?”
If anyone wants to see it the boy who chose to get suspended instead of removing his home made anti obama shirt is coming on next on fox..
HELP, HELP–
Ok Pumas. I need some help here. I just lost a girlfriend of 30+ years today because I sent her some more facts about Obama. She drank the kool-aid a long time ago. Then, after sending the same facts to my sister, I received the following e-mail:
So, vote for John McCain who ranked 894 out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who has no college degree to substantiate his claim of being qualified to run this country. With that, vote for Sarah Palin whose only degree is a bachelor’s degree in journalism. She can report the news of our country, but she is not qualified to make the decisions. Or, better yet, vote for Ralph Nader. You just never know where he can take this country. All I know is, when I weigh out who if more qualified, I’m voting for Obama who holds several degrees and graduated from Harvard University with a doctorate. Education matters!
Does anyone have any information on the education of McCain or Palin? I don’t. My sister is a teacher and she believes that anyone without college is an idiot.
55 Godzilla – Read post 52 and you may feel a bit better.
Meanwhile, perhaps a Larry King prowl is needed!
RE: POST 55
I wonder if this is now going to be what we can expect if Obama wins – a whole new tone of who’s acceptable to be given credibility. I mean, we’ve already given passes to Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan, etc. It’s going to be a whole new world.
53 sistermoon3 on 09.23.08 at 1:50 pm oh by the way, the view ladies said this am they want sarah on their show….LOLOLOLOLOLOL them and everyone else
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I would not go near that disfunctional show until the balance their views.
They have five gals on the show, to have a balanced view and to represent all of the five races in America and the world, they should have the following
A black, white, asian, red (native) and brown (Pakistan/India) lady, then they might have credibility.
#53 sistermoon3,
good gookamookie(that’s short for @$%#!@%),
Theres is not a snowballs chance in Hades,that Sarah Palin should go on the view.That’s like putting a lamb in the lions den. Read my lips,NOOOOOOOOOO way.
Terrydo, i agree with you dear
The View is only saying that because they believe Hussein will be the…………………. oh, I just can’t say it…….
girls, i didnt say she was going on there, i said they acted all sweet and ga gah saying they would like her and biden on there, i could tell it was just to clear the air or guilt from their own interview they did with the McCain’s , im not that naive, jees
Mary Beth613 on 09.23.08 at 12:59 pm #7 grizzly…well said!!! I’m lol just thinking about the picture you put in my head. BO in a bunker..low ceilings, standing at podium, and his 300 “advisors” questioning him..with sweat pouring off him, and saying
“enough..enough..can’t we get the questions first?”
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A sneak peek inside Obama’s debate preparation indise the bunker (Sandy Berger smuggled this out):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4mKWceq0vY
60 KarlaforHillary Talk to Laurey – she has everything – it’s like a documentary. It should be published!! If someone can’t get the picture after reading it, then they’re “blind.”
#60 KarlaforHillary Don’t know the facts you sent her but here is a site that covers all of his connections to terrorists. Maybe, she will read it. I pray for those on the juice and amazing how after a while…they listen to reasoning and change!
http://dontvoteobama.net/
I just heard someone from the Obama campaign tap dance around a reporter’s questions about what Obama proposes for a solution to the financial crisis. He was trying to steer away from giving a straight answer.
Obama suffers from “paralysis by analysis.” Paralysis by Analysis – No decision can be made at all due to devoting a disproportionate effort to the analysis of a decision. Managers then become “unable to create value and manage.”
Another topic:
I just read a great article on Why Senior Voters Are Not Going to Support Obama.
There’s also a great picture of this older woman at a rally. A picture’s worth a thousand words!
Here’s the link:
http://www.savagepolitics.com
KARLAFORHILLARY:
Don’t tell your sister this, but the thought that people without college degrees are idiots is an idiotic thought.
I have examples in my own family that could refute that. But there are many on this site who could probably tell us of some very famous and productive people who never went to college. Being self educated, in my view, is greatly underrated.
KarlaforHillary on 09.23.08 at 1:52 pm HELP, HELP–
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Don’t know if this helps, but Obama has REFUSED to release his college or law school transcripts. We know nothing about his academic record. His refusal strongly suggests that his admission to both college and law school was the product of racial preferences, and that his academic record was abysmal. You can bet if his performance was something to be proud of, he would have splahsed it everywhere by now.
McCain has not kept his record a secret. He has nothing to hide. Obama does have something to hide, and I think it would be pretty damning to him if released.
#64 tillerylakelady
“That’s like putting a lamb in the lions den.”
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I think she might chew them up and spit them out.
Karla:
My question is does academia and the # of degrees give you the ability to run this nation instead of the ability to sustain five and a half years of torture for your country. What has Obama done to display his love of his country. His inabilty to create his own speeches without taking other folks words demonstrated to me his lack in academia. Anyone can receive a degree but not everyone can survive five years of inhumane torture. Sometimes it is about the innate strength of the person not how smart they think they are. Degrees do not make a person a leader, their character , integrity, and honesty does in my opinion.
Madam Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi has come out with her statement regarding the financial fiasco..
The Party’s Over!!!
Question Nancy, why did you and the Senate permit the party to continue until it ended in a blast out?
lilibet
I so totally agree with you. There are many things that college can’t teach someone:
Compassion
Work Ethic
Tact
Common Sense
Parenting Skills
Reason
Just to name a few
try this karlaforhillary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin scroll down to her early life and education read that see if that helps can’t really find out much about McCain. Yea ask her if BO is so proud of his college years why is it such a secret we can’t even find out where he lived (the streets) his friends from college refuse to be interviewed or have there pictures show.
#60 KarlaforHillary, ask your sister why is it that no one can get access to Obama’s transcripts. Also, George W. Bush has an undergraduate degree from Yale (1968) and an MBA from Harvard (1975). Would she vote for Bush over McCain?
#60 KarlaforHillary
Sorry to hear about what you are going through. You know, you and your girlfriend could agree to disagree, the relationship does not have to end.
Regarding your sister, well, looks like she is drunk on koolaid. But, I know that http://dontvoteobama.net/
has good info if you dare!
Don’t worry, your girlfriend will be back and your sister will let it go (after they lose in November
)
#60…my retort to the education question…where have the Ivy League degrees gotten us? I got that BO hails from Harvard/Columbia, the Clintons and Bush from Yale, but so what? Where is the result ? It’s what you do with the education you’ve got, no matter where it’s from, not the education in and of itself.
71 indy on 09.23.08 at 2:04 pm
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LOL LOL LOL that picture says it all!!!
ABBO
Ohio Secretary of State (Dem) rejects thousands of republican absentee ballots:
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080923/COL05/809230318/1055/NEWS
KARLAFORHILLARY: yOU MIGHT WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH YOUR FRIEND AND/OR SISTER.
http://www.collegedropoutshalloffame.com/
73 Grizzly on 09.23.08 at 2:06 pm KarlaforHillary on 09.23.08 at 1:52 pm HELP, HELP–
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Don’t know if this helps, but Obama has REFUSED to release his college or law school transcripts. We know nothing about his academic record.
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So it seems that we don’t know if Obama was born in America and we don’t know if he even graduated from these colleges or even attended them.
Where is the proof of either of these claims…
Who is Obama, everything that we know about him so far, has to do with corrupt churches, corrupt friends and corrupt family members in Kenya…
No wonder he is trying to hide the truth about himself.
oh I dont know tillerylakelady, sarah seems more like a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I’m sure she could handle their brand of nastiness — she’s probably handled it a thousand times already.
Karla — I’ve never heard anyone refer to a JD, law degree, as a “doctorate.” it does stand for Juris Doctor, and all, but calling it a doctorate sounds both pretentious and unsophisticated at the same time (a particularly embarrassing faux pas)
George Bush also went to Harvard. He went to Yale too!
McCain earned a bachelor of science at Annapolis, one of the most prestigious and exclusive colleges in the world — granted, he was a shoe-in since both his father and grandfather were admirals, but although he may have had help getting in, the Naval Academy doesnt give anyone an easy time. His class rank was low only because of his demerits for behavior — he had a habit of standing up to authority and was well-loved by his peers and those below him in rank. His academic scores were always high, esp in literature and history — he stuggled more in math, but always passed.
Both Biden and McCain are obviously intelligent people.
Obama has NEVER struck me as person with a superior intellect. I just dont get it. Ario’s description of him yesterday as a “Slick Rick” is exactly right as far as I’m concerned. He knows how to con people, and I guess that requires a certain amount of weaselish intelligence, but I think that’s a pretty shallow pool of smarts. People like that are mentally lazy — they learn only as much as they need to know to get by the next skeptic.
Palin? Who knows? She seems savvy and street-smart. Maybe she’s not all that intellectually curious, who knows? She certainly has a sharp wit.
Anyway, will the Democrats EVER EVER learn? Ridiculing people because they lack an ivy league degree is a DEAD LOSER as a strategy for winning votes.
I said last week that the Boiz were the type of guys who bring a report card to a fist fight. I didnt mean it literally, but lord I guess I’ll have to amend that.
You can read more on the wikipedia entry for McCain.
#26 GoHillaryGo: It is Berg’s site.Yes
And here is what Mr. Berg wrote to me the other day”In any lawsuit the Defendants are given time to Answer, they are entitled to be heard. Mr. Obama and the DNC’s Answers to the lawsuit are due on or before September 24, 2008. If they fail, then I will seek a Default against them and request the Injunction and Declaratory Relief I have asked for in the lawsuit.
No, the Court is not stalling the suit. All cases must follow the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. There are avenues if the Defendants fail to respond, answer or defend the action.
Nothing is signed by the Court until the Defendants and/or Plaintiffs have a chance to respond, which there is only so much time allowed for the responses. The lawsuit is 20 days, the Motions are typically 14 days. The Court will then typicall set the matter for a hearing or Conference, if a party has requested such. After said answers, if any, and a conference and/or hearing, the Judge then makes their rulings.
Thank you for your email. Please keep up the great job and continue spreading the word. Together we can make a difference!
Phil
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
obamacrimes.com”
OK, PUMAs, who made this statement on September 3 of this year?
“Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we’ve got Democrats in charge of the machines,”
Answer here: http://blog.dispatch.com/politics/2008/09/updated_gop_blasts_obama_comme.shtml
#60 KarlaforHillary
Send this to oyur sister. It can be found on Jews against Obama.
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May 31, 2008 at 4:55 pm
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Obama’s Mythical Intelligence
Much has been written about Obama’s “mythical intelligence” by a media completely in the tank for the boy blunder. His intelligence is , in fact, a myth. Atlas reader Carolyn wrote an excellent piece peeling back the layers of the mendacious narrative to uncover what a lightweight the Soros stooge really is. She describes the unmeritorious means Obama used to achieve his goals – particularly President of the Law Review. When I was in Washington yesterday we were discussing this little mentioned truth – Obama’s year as President produced little worthwhile or significant. Obama’s year is the least cited review. He produced nothing of import.
The smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ Carolyn
Obama’s much vaunted intelligence is in reality nothing but smoke and mirrors.
As nearly everyone has noted lately, Obama’s grasp on facts is being revealed as tenuous at best and embarrassing at worst, as evidenced by his recent gaffe about his uncle having ‘liberated’ Auschwitz when in fact NO American soldier did anything of the kind (in fact – as the quickest glance at a history book will tell you, no American soldier ever set foot in Poland where Auschwitz is located). Now, this kind of lapse could be excused as a typical political mistake, etc. – but in Obama’s case, that excuse can’t be used. It’s not just because this type of typical ‘political’ mistake is what Obama has sworn he’s not – i.e., a typical politician – more to the point, this silly mistake reveals Obama’s ignorance of the bare minimum of historical fact. And such ignorance shakes the very foundation of Obama’s chief qualification for being President – i.e., Obama’s vaunted intelligence. Since everyone acknowledges he lacks experience for the job, the only reason left to support Obama’s claim to the position is because of his intelligence.
Constant references have been given as to Obama’s near-mythical intelligence – and over and over again, every one claims that the ‘proof’ of that intelligence is the fact that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. And that is a staggering achievement. Only the best and the brightest achieve that – only a student at the top of the grade scale, only a student of outstanding writing skills and superb legal acumen is accorded that honor. It is such a high honor that this accomplishment follows that student through to the rest of his life – it is mentioned in his vitae, his honors, indeed in his very obituary as the incontestable proof of his intelligence. Therefore, it is understandable that all doubts of Obama’s intelligence are instantly assuaged by revealing he was President of the Harvard Law Review.
Assuaged, that is, until one looks a bit closer.
To begin with, the NY Times 1990 article on Obama being elected President of the Harvard Law Review casts the first troubling clues that all is not what it appears to be.
“Until the 1970’s the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.
That system came under attack in the 1970’s and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.”
There is the Achilles heel. The former high standards which all previous Presidents of the Harvard Law Review had been forced to meet – grades, papers, etc.- no longer existed by the time Obama was elected. Instead, the post was selected on something different than grades, papers, etc. It was selected on race. Obama was the ‘right’ race. He was black. Now of course, that doesn’t mean Obama did NOT have intelligence – but what it makes clear is that by the time he was elected, Presidency of the Review no longer proved he DID. Indeed, at the very moment of his election, the proof of his intelligence was so missing that his predecessor at the job refused to confirm it. Of course, the predecessor trode very cautiously and carefully in his statement issued after Obama had just been elected – but the meaning was clear.:
“Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.
Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama’s election ”was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.”
Mr. Yu’s words are ominous – ‘others may read something into it.” Clearly, Mr. Yu clearly can’t say he’s one of those ‘others’ recognizing ‘merits’ to instead mean ‘race’. After all, Yu sees which way the PC winds are blowing and he certainly doesn’t want them howling in his face by saying Obama got his post for something other than his intelligence. At the same time, however, Yu’s unease at the choice of Obama is telling for what Yu does not say, as for what he does. For instance, Yu does not cite Obama’s grades nor does Yu cite Obama’s legal writings. Yu says nothing about them at all – and the silence is deafening.
Reading the NY Times further reveals other telltale signs that Obama did not possess the intelligence for that position. As with Mr. Yu’s painfully parsed statement, the signs are noticeable more for what they do not say, than for what they do.
We begin with a brief explanation of the legal world Obama claims to belong to by reason of his intelligence. That world is defined by 3 inescapable proofs of such intelligence. They are: (1) high grades, (2) prestigious organizations (i.e, the Law Review) and (3) clerkship with a judge.
We will begin with the first and most obvious sign of intelligence – grades.
Obama doesn’t have them. Oh, he’s given the aura of possessing them – but when one looks closely at that aura, it disappears like smoke before your eyes. For instance, not once has anyone, ever, at any time, produced those grades. In no publication, either Obama’s or anyone else’s, has any cite been made of that average – was it a 4.0? (Straight A’s?) Was it even higher – 4.3? (A+) (And today’s high school seniors are graduating with 5.0.) Okay, how about a 3.9 or 3.8? No. The answer is none. Never. At no time have Obama’s grades ever been cited. And that is damning. Because as any person who’s ever graduated from elementary, high school or college will tell you, their grade point average is so close to their identity as to be the identity itself. Therefore – for that ‘identity’ to be invisible as is the case with Obama, is quite revealing. In plain words, if someone doesn’t mention a high grade point average, it’s for only one reason – there isn’t a high grade point average.
(2) prestigious organizations
Yes, Obama was elected President of the law review. But, as I’ve already cited, this election came when the qualifications of high grades had been eliminated. Therefore one has to look at the other reasons for that election – which necessitates looking at how Obama was elected.
As the NY Times article cites, “Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review’s 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.” In other words, 80 people got together and in a wearying all night session in which fists were banged on the tables and the air was loud with ‘we have to get a BLACK in this position, it’s 1990, for crissakes and we haven’t got one” – the weary people in the early morning hours, exhausted, worn out and unable, unwilling to fight any longer simply chose the only candidate they could think of to be President of the Review. Obama.
And if you think I’m laboring too much on the PC reasons for Obama’s election, the NY Times itself describes the vicious political background against which Obama was elected.
Obamalaw_school
“…Mr. Obama was the most prominent minority student on a campus shaken by racial politics. A group agitating for greater faculty diversity occupied the dean’s office and sued the school for discrimination; Derrick Bell, a black law professor, resigned over the issue.
The law review struggled to decide whether affirmative action should factor into the selection of editors, and how much voice to give to critical race theorists, who argued that the legal system was inherently biased against minorities.”
Well, it is clear the committee choosing the President of the Review did ‘factor in’ affirmative action. And it is just as clear they didn’t factor in his grades. Nor did they cite his papers written. In fact, there was not a mention of either. Instead, the committee abandoned them altogether and went to something completely unrelated – politics. In citing Obama’s qualifications, they pointed out that he had worked the political wards in Chicago before he came to Harvard. You may well ask – what does this have to do with grades or legal acumen? The answer is – nothing. And the answer gets even more troubling when one then realizes that after Obama was elected to President of the Law Review, he wrote no papers. That’s totally unheard of. Writing no papers for the Law Review is like taking a class in gymnastics without even putting on your leotards to work out. The whole reason for existence of the Review is to write a paper. And yet the very President of it writes none.
(3) clerkship with a judge
This is a shocking failure of Obama’s that he did not clerk with a judge after graduation. The fact that it is a shocking failure is evidenced by the embarrassed committee admitting it up front so as to beat others to it.:
“The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”
“..usually goes on to serve as a clerk”. This polite sentence means ALL Harvard Law Review presidents serve for judges after graduation. Even Obama’s predecessor, Mr. Yu, did that. Indeed, Yu cited his clerkship with a judge so fast you almost thought it was part of his name. And in a sense, it is. There’s a reason why ALL graduates who clerk with a judge trumpet their clerkships instantly in your face. Clerking with a judge is the sign of a law graduate’s intelligence. Bar none. That’s why it’s on their resumes, why it’s the first thing they talk about in conversation “ah, yes, when I clerked with Judge so and so,” etc. It is so prestigious it’s the first thing other attorneys cite when they discuss that particular person – ‘Ah yes, HE clerked with Judge so and so”, etc. In short, clerkship is the shining golden symbol that this attorney is smart. Why? Because judges do not pick stupid people. Why not? Because the clerks oversee the papers for the judge, help write them, do the bulk of research for them, etc. The judge then stands on that work in reaching his decisions, rendering his judgment. Thus, if the work produced by that clerk is faulty – which it will be if the clerk is stupid – than the judge pays for it with his own career, his own reputation. And of course, no judge will do that. Which is why no judge will hire a stupid clerk.
Which thus brings us to the unstated but painfully obvious sign of Obama’s lack of intelligence. Despite holding the staggering position of the Harvard Law Review – NO judge, not one, not a single one, offered a clerkship to Obama. It wasn’t because Obama wasn’t free for the asking. As he made clear in his statement upon accepting the position of President of the Review, Obama eagerly made his availability known by declaring that he would be practicing law for ‘two or three’ years after leaving Harvard. I.e., he was open for the clerk’s position. Except – no judge gave it to him. None.
And Obama painfully admitted he knew this would happen. While other graduates went on to clerkships with judges, the Court of Appeals, even the Supreme Court, etc. or even to prestigious top flight law firms which take only the best of the best, Obama admitted he was not in line for any of that. He would be going for something else. The same ’something’ which had landed him the title of President of the Harvard Law Review – but not the benefits of such. Once the glitter and glisten of that title had worn off, the bare reality beneath was that Obama was nothing a politically glib individual able to talk well in abstract – but not produce in concrete. And the judges had recognized that fact by refusing to give him a clerkship. The brutally competitive law firms had also recognized that by not giving him a position at their firms. Therefore, there was only one venue open to him – politics. As the NY Times put it, Obama would be returning to Chicago to “re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”
Such then is the smoke and mirrors of Obama’s vaunted ‘intelligence’. To this day, he has blown that smoke skillfully in the faces of the liberals to lull them into not asking questions – much the same way the ancient Kings of France blew smoke into the faces of their hunting birds to quieten and lull them into inaction. The terrible problem is that modern bloody birds of prey like Ahmadinijad, Chavez and the Taliban, etc. are not lulled by smoke. To the contrary, these terrorists have mastered the art of blowing their own smoke into the world’s face to lull it into submission and inaction. Such years of mastery means these terrorists will make short shrift of the untested Junior senator from Illinois’s huffing and puffing. Obama’s smoke will be blown back instantly into his face by the hot breath of their hate and insane contempt for human life.
Which will leave Obama with only his intelligence to defend him – and us. Unfortunately, as the above arguments sadly prove, Obama’s intelligence itself appears to be smoke. Thus leaving us with a potential Commander in Chief able to defend this country with — what?
For this country’s safety, we must pierce the smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ at the earliest possible moment. If Obama’s smoke of obfuscation obscures long enough to gain him the White House, that fatal smoke could be blown away only to reveal a greater smoke rising from the ruins of America – a deadly smoke which next time will surely dwarf the ghostly clouds which broiled up from the burning buildings and planes on 9/11.
Posted by Pamela Geller on Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM in Muslim in the White House? | PerObama’s Mythical Intelligence
Much has been written about Obama’s “mythical intelligence” by a media completely in the tank for the boy blunder. His intelligence is , in fact, a myth. Atlas reader Carolyn wrote an excellent piece peeling back the layers of the mendacious narrative to uncover what a lightweight the Soros stooge really is. She describes the unmeritorious means Obama used to achieve his goals – particularly President of the Law Review. When I was in Washington yesterday we were discussing this little mentioned truth – Obama’s year as President produced little worthwhile or significant. Obama’s year is the least cited review. He produced nothing of import.
The smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ Carolyn
Obama’s much vaunted intelligence is in reality nothing but smoke and mirrors.
As nearly everyone has noted lately, Obama’s grasp on facts is being revealed as tenuous at best and embarrassing at worst, as evidenced by his recent gaffe about his uncle having ‘liberated’ Auschwitz when in fact NO American soldier did anything of the kind (in fact – as the quickest glance at a history book will tell you, no American soldier ever set foot in Poland where Auschwitz is located). Now, this kind of lapse could be excused as a typical political mistake, etc. – but in Obama’s case, that excuse can’t be used. It’s not just because this type of typical ‘political’ mistake is what Obama has sworn he’s not – i.e., a typical politician – more to the point, this silly mistake reveals Obama’s ignorance of the bare minimum of historical fact. And such ignorance shakes the very foundation of Obama’s chief qualification for being President – i.e., Obama’s vaunted intelligence. Since everyone acknowledges he lacks experience for the job, the only reason left to support Obama’s claim to the position is because of his intelligence.
Constant references have been given as to Obama’s near-mythical intelligence – and over and over again, every one claims that the ‘proof’ of that intelligence is the fact that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. And that is a staggering achievement. Only the best and the brightest achieve that – only a student at the top of the grade scale, only a student of outstanding writing skills and superb legal acumen is accorded that honor. It is such a high honor that this accomplishment follows that student through to the rest of his life – it is mentioned in his vitae, his honors, indeed in his very obituary as the incontestable proof of his intelligence. Therefore, it is understandable that all doubts of Obama’s intelligence are instantly assuaged by revealing he was President of the Harvard Law Review.
Assuaged, that is, until one looks a bit closer.
To begin with, the NY Times 1990 article on Obama being elected President of the Harvard Law Review casts the first troubling clues that all is not what it appears to be.
“Until the 1970’s the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.
That system came under attack in the 1970’s and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.”
There is the Achilles heel. The former high standards which all previous Presidents of the Harvard Law Review had been forced to meet – grades, papers, etc.- no longer existed by the time Obama was elected. Instead, the post was selected on something different than grades, papers, etc. It was selected on race. Obama was the ‘right’ race. He was black. Now of course, that doesn’t mean Obama did NOT have intelligence – but what it makes clear is that by the time he was elected, Presidency of the Review no longer proved he DID. Indeed, at the very moment of his election, the proof of his intelligence was so missing that his predecessor at the job refused to confirm it. Of course, the predecessor trode very cautiously and carefully in his statement issued after Obama had just been elected – but the meaning was clear.:
“Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.
Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama’s election ”was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.”
Mr. Yu’s words are ominous – ‘others may read something into it.” Clearly, Mr. Yu clearly can’t say he’s one of those ‘others’ recognizing ‘merits’ to instead mean ‘race’. After all, Yu sees which way the PC winds are blowing and he certainly doesn’t want them howling in his face by saying Obama got his post for something other than his intelligence. At the same time, however, Yu’s unease at the choice of Obama is telling for what Yu does not say, as for what he does. For instance, Yu does not cite Obama’s grades nor does Yu cite Obama’s legal writings. Yu says nothing about them at all – and the silence is deafening.
Reading the NY Times further reveals other telltale signs that Obama did not possess the intelligence for that position. As with Mr. Yu’s painfully parsed statement, the signs are noticeable more for what they do not say, than for what they do.
We begin with a brief explanation of the legal world Obama claims to belong to by reason of his intelligence. That world is defined by 3 inescapable proofs of such intelligence. They are: (1) high grades, (2) prestigious organizations (i.e, the Law Review) and (3) clerkship with a judge.
We will begin with the first and most obvious sign of intelligence – grades.
Obama doesn’t have them. Oh, he’s given the aura of possessing them – but when one looks closely at that aura, it disappears like smoke before your eyes. For instance, not once has anyone, ever, at any time, produced those grades. In no publication, either Obama’s or anyone else’s, has any cite been made of that average – was it a 4.0? (Straight A’s?) Was it even higher – 4.3? (A+) (And today’s high school seniors are graduating with 5.0.) Okay, how about a 3.9 or 3.8? No. The answer is none. Never. At no time have Obama’s grades ever been cited. And that is damning. Because as any person who’s ever graduated from elementary, high school or college will tell you, their grade point average is so close to their identity as to be the identity itself. Therefore – for that ‘identity’ to be invisible as is the case with Obama, is quite revealing. In plain words, if someone doesn’t mention a high grade point average, it’s for only one reason – there isn’t a high grade point average.
(2) prestigious organizations
Yes, Obama was elected President of the law review. But, as I’ve already cited, this election came when the qualifications of high grades had been eliminated. Therefore one has to look at the other reasons for that election – which necessitates looking at how Obama was elected.
As the NY Times article cites, “Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review’s 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.” In other words, 80 people got together and in a wearying all night session in which fists were banged on the tables and the air was loud with ‘we have to get a BLACK in this position, it’s 1990, for crissakes and we haven’t got one” – the weary people in the early morning hours, exhausted, worn out and unable, unwilling to fight any longer simply chose the only candidate they could think of to be President of the Review. Obama.
And if you think I’m laboring too much on the PC reasons for Obama’s election, the NY Times itself describes the vicious political background against which Obama was elected.
Obamalaw_school
“…Mr. Obama was the most prominent minority student on a campus shaken by racial politics. A group agitating for greater faculty diversity occupied the dean’s office and sued the school for discrimination; Derrick Bell, a black law professor, resigned over the issue.
The law review struggled to decide whether affirmative action should factor into the selection of editors, and how much voice to give to critical race theorists, who argued that the legal system was inherently biased against minorities.”
Well, it is clear the committee choosing the President of the Review did ‘factor in’ affirmative action. And it is just as clear they didn’t factor in his grades. Nor did they cite his papers written. In fact, there was not a mention of either. Instead, the committee abandoned them altogether and went to something completely unrelated – politics. In citing Obama’s qualifications, they pointed out that he had worked the political wards in Chicago before he came to Harvard. You may well ask – what does this have to do with grades or legal acumen? The answer is – nothing. And the answer gets even more troubling when one then realizes that after Obama was elected to President of the Law Review, he wrote no papers. That’s totally unheard of. Writing no papers for the Law Review is like taking a class in gymnastics without even putting on your leotards to work out. The whole reason for existence of the Review is to write a paper. And yet the very President of it writes none.
(3) clerkship with a judge
This is a shocking failure of Obama’s that he did not clerk with a judge after graduation. The fact that it is a shocking failure is evidenced by the embarrassed committee admitting it up front so as to beat others to it.:
“The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”
“..usually goes on to serve as a clerk”. This polite sentence means ALL Harvard Law Review presidents serve for judges after graduation. Even Obama’s predecessor, Mr. Yu, did that. Indeed, Yu cited his clerkship with a judge so fast you almost thought it was part of his name. And in a sense, it is. There’s a reason why ALL graduates who clerk with a judge trumpet their clerkships instantly in your face. Clerking with a judge is the sign of a law graduate’s intelligence. Bar none. That’s why it’s on their resumes, why it’s the first thing they talk about in conversation “ah, yes, when I clerked with Judge so and so,” etc. It is so prestigious it’s the first thing other attorneys cite when they discuss that particular person – ‘Ah yes, HE clerked with Judge so and so”, etc. In short, clerkship is the shining golden symbol that this attorney is smart. Why? Because judges do not pick stupid people. Why not? Because the clerks oversee the papers for the judge, help write them, do the bulk of research for them, etc. The judge then stands on that work in reaching his decisions, rendering his judgment. Thus, if the work produced by that clerk is faulty – which it will be if the clerk is stupid – than the judge pays for it with his own career, his own reputation. And of course, no judge will do that. Which is why no judge will hire a stupid clerk.
Which thus brings us to the unstated but painfully obvious sign of Obama’s lack of intelligence. Despite holding the staggering position of the Harvard Law Review – NO judge, not one, not a single one, offered a clerkship to Obama. It wasn’t because Obama wasn’t free for the asking. As he made clear in his statement upon accepting the position of President of the Review, Obama eagerly made his availability known by declaring that he would be practicing law for ‘two or three’ years after leaving Harvard. I.e., he was open for the clerk’s position. Except – no judge gave it to him. None.
And Obama painfully admitted he knew this would happen. While other graduates went on to clerkships with judges, the Court of Appeals, even the Supreme Court, etc. or even to prestigious top flight law firms which take only the best of the best, Obama admitted he was not in line for any of that. He would be going for something else. The same ’something’ which had landed him the title of President of the Harvard Law Review – but not the benefits of such. Once the glitter and glisten of that title had worn off, the bare reality beneath was that Obama was nothing a politically glib individual able to talk well in abstract – but not produce in concrete. And the judges had recognized that fact by refusing to give him a clerkship. The brutally competitive law firms had also recognized that by not giving him a position at their firms. Therefore, there was only one venue open to him – politics. As the NY Times put it, Obama would be returning to Chicago to “re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”
Such then is the smoke and mirrors of Obama’s vaunted ‘intelligence’. To this day, he has blown that smoke skillfully in the faces of the liberals to lull them into not asking questions – much the same way the ancient Kings of France blew smoke into the faces of their hunting birds to quieten and lull them into inaction. The terrible problem is that modern bloody birds of prey like Ahmadinijad, Chavez and the Taliban, etc. are not lulled by smoke. To the contrary, these terrorists have mastered the art of blowing their own smoke into the world’s face to lull it into submission and inaction. Such years of mastery means these terrorists will make short shrift of the untested Junior senator from Illinois’s huffing and puffing. Obama’s smoke will be blown back instantly into his face by the hot breath of their hate and insane contempt for human life.
Which will leave Obama with only his intelligence to defend him – and us. Unfortunately, as the above arguments sadly prove, Obama’s intelligence itself appears to be smoke. Thus leaving us with a potential Commander in Chief able to defend this country with — what?
For this country’s safety, we must pierce the smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ at the earliest possible moment. If Obama’s smoke of obfuscation obscures long enough to gain him the White House, that fatal smoke could be blown away only to reveal a greater smoke rising from the ruins of America – a deadly smoke which next time will surely dwarf the ghostly clouds which broiled up from the burning buildings and planes on 9/11.
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84 Grizzly Call Ohio and verify it…….We have some Pumas from Ohio, right?
74 notfollowinthepiedpiper,
Your right,I forgot there a moment,Sarah is a big girl.
I guess I’m getting my maternal instincts all in a uproar. I just get so frustrated with the medias biased opinionated reporting on the Palins.
I just logged on to remind all y’all to please do the quick add-on to TrishInCanada’s Prowl: Sexism. The explanation of the add-on is included in the Prowl document. Thanks.
It’s the first one in the right hand column. Thanks.
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html
OMGosh lilibet
I love you for that website link. Thanks so much.
Hi everyone,
I posted this info early this morning. The New Agenda, a new women’s group, put out a press release criticizing NOW for endorsing BO/Biden. They’ve received feedback from the bots who are now criticizing/attacking them for supporting Palin and criticizing BO. Please take a minute to respond to some of the things they are saying about Palin. They are the usual (“she’s the most unqualified VP candidate ever,” “I can’t believe she makes rape victims pay for rape kits” and so on). I’ve already left a comment and it was posted (the site is moderated).
Go to:
http://thenewagenda.net/feedback/
If that link doesn’t take you there type http://thenewagenda.net/ and click on “feedback”
Best,
Lara08
Also, thanks so much to:
Murphy
1gypsy4mc
NoMoreInFL
Grizzly
rain
Slyt2
Godzilla
Mimi1020
CTKEY
Snowtiger–wow, thanks
You have all helped me so very much. Pumas are so great. I love you all. Now I have a response for my sister that she won’t be expecting.
#84 Grizzly I just send that out to every single media station here in Ohio that I have Michelle47 if you are still on do the same. I am gonna look and get some from other parts of Ohio too, all I saw was more or less my area not the others.
Here’s my answer to FOX
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I don’t know how many times we have to tell you “MEDIA” the same thing over and over and over.
NO MICHIGAN, NO FLORIDA, NO WHITEHOUSE
HELL HATH NO FURY, REMEMBER,
A SELECTION NOT AN ELECTION
THE VILE, CORRUPT, INEPT, DISHONEST CAMPAIGN IN HISTORY AND THE DNC IN CHARGE,
WITH BARKY HIS LEADER
HIS SUPPORTERS ARE THE WORST, HATEFUL, AND DISGRACEFUL AND A LOT OF THEM GET PAID FOR IT,
I WONDER FROM WHO.
WHERE ARE HIS: BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THESIS, MEDICAL RECORDS, ILLINOIS STATE RECORDS, NO PAPER TRAIL,
EVERYTHING’S A SECRET, NOTHING ABOUT HIS COLUMBIA YEARS AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON
WE ASKED HIM THE QUESTION: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR US???
HE ANSWERED IT, ABSOLUTELY F&&$$NG NOTHING———————-EXCEPT MAYBE TAKE ANOTHER LONG VACATION AND SPEND MORE MILLIONS OF OUR MONEY TO ACCOMPLISH NOTHING.
# 58 TerryDo
Bill Clinton said Monday he understands why Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is popular in the American heartland: because people relate to her.
“I come from Arkansas, I get why she’s hot out there, why she’s doing well.”
“People look at her, and they say, ‘All those kids. Something that happens in everybody’s family, I’m glad she loves her daughter and she’s not ashamed of her. Glad that girl’s going around with her boyfriend. Glad they’re going to get married.”‘
“I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They’re wonderful children. They’re wonderful people.
And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy!”
“I get this,” Clinton said. “My view is … why say, ever, anything bad about a person?
Why don’t we like them and celebrate them and be happy for her elevation to the ticket?
And just say that she was a good choice for him and we diagree.
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See that is why I love Bill Clinton, no bad mouthing needed. I like Palin, she has guts and stamina, she is a real person with values and NO TIES TO WASHINGTON LOBBIESTS! Her values may not match mine but hey I am terribly jaded.
http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/
“Thank you for giving me the opportunity to express my outrage at the level to which John McCain and his ill-advised advisers were willing to stoop to get him elected president. The selection of Sarah Palin has only served to distract both presidential candidates from addressing the real issues. I am insulted as a women and as an American at the desperation of John McCain and his use of “Country First” as a campaign slogan. Clearly, this selection of Sarah Palin has everything to do with John McCain and his last possible chance to be elected. It is sad to see how far he has fallen in 8 years.
I have nothing to say about Sarah Palin that hasn’t already been said other than to ask what kind of America she believes in that she would even consider—given her lack of experience and questionable governing policies—the offer to run as McCain’s VP choice.”
-Kathleen S., 60, Charlotte, NC
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Hey Kathleen here is a newsflash for ya!
If experience is you bag, you might want to rethink your obvious O vote.
If you are questioning Palins “governing policies”, she’s got experience.
I wonder if Kathleen can name some of the One’s governing policies?
I can’t even begin to address the “what kind of America she believes in” comment. It would take hours to give it justice.
#60Karlafor Hillary: Obama himself has said more than once on the written record that he learned more in his few years of practicing the Alinsky method of so called organizing than he had ever learned in both his undergraduate time and his time at Harvard….
Does your sister even know anything about this method and the epistomology of it? ..meaning…its purpose, and how , what, it “teaches” to the human mind? The entire method’s purpose is to teach the total deconstruction of every habit of logic and rational thought for the purpose of producing a pragamatic result….Is this what your sister would call the effects of education that Obama has, according to her? Is this what she and every other teacher, including myself , spend years attempting to teach our students to do?
Is not the function of a teacher the opposite? How to penetrate that which interferes with discovery of the truth, not how to practice those techniques to hide, destroy, deconstruct or subvert it? Your sister, for all of her so called education, has been brainwashed and is herself espousing her own elitist postion. Send her this post and ask her to respond, here…will you? I hope so.
For the love of your sister and the truth, she is lucky to have you. Keep at it!
By the way, in regards to comments left by the bots at The New Agenda site, I have to wonder about women and men who think this is an appropriate way to speak about women (no matter their political affiliation). I guess I do come from a different generation (30 and over crowd) because I would never let someone speak to me that way in my personal life and I definitely don’t think it is appropriate in a public forum. Who raised these people? How do these women let men treat them in their personal relationships? How could a woman not think BO is sexist? Just wondering and venting. Best, Lara08
About BO’s education and intelligence… remember the Meg Ryan movie IQ? Dressed up a garage mechanic to pass him off as a scientist (coached in the wings by Einstein and friends)
Bo’s campaign is the same plot, different characters.
And finally, if someone tells you McCain is a third term Bush and that BO is “Mr. liberal” please pass on this info:
“Obama often says that McCain voted 90% of the time with Bush. What he doesn’t say is that Obama himself voted 88% of the time with Bush and even voted for the Cheney energy plan. Hillary didn’t and neither did McCain.
What they don’t tell you is that McCain voted 97% of the time with the Democrats and that he has the worst conservative voting record of any Republican. He voted liberal 20% of the time.
(A little tip when you hear Obama lying about McCain’s voting record: most votes in the Senate are unanimous consent.)” http://www.redhotandbluepolitics.com
Hello Pumas, have not been able to post but check in to see what’s going on. Hope to have more time in a few days.
If I remember correctly, when BO did his world tour, he did not allow reporters in the room to ask questions when he talked to world leaders – so why is the MSM so upset that Palin is not allowing reporters in the room. You would think this is breaking news.
How soon they forget!!!
#60 karlaforhillary….send these videos to your friend and sister and tell them if this is what a degree from Harvard gets you, you will pass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F-PMY72luY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjaoJuAYnaI&eurl=http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc&feature=related
Lara08 on 09.23.08 at 2:38 pm And finally, if someone tells you McCain is a third term Bush and that BO is “Mr. liberal” please pass on this info:
“Obama often says that McCain voted 90% of the time with Bush. What he doesn’t say is that Obama himself voted 88% of the time with Bush and even voted for the Cheney energy plan.
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I can hear the bot response now: “Oh yeah? Well, Obama has voted “present” more times than any candidate in history!!!!!!!”
HELP NEEDED
Does anyone remember, have info, and/or have a link to info from a couple of months ago (I think; time has lost all meaning!) when a group met with Dem party leaders to present platform suggestions and the ideas were all rejected outright, without even so much as a discussion. And, the ideas included eliminating caucuses, and also had to do with equality for women, etc.
PLEASE, I need to put my hands on that info. When, where, etc.
Post with a heading that’s easy to find. Thanks!
Yesterday I received a response from Sen. Nelson (FL) regarding Obama’s violation of the Logan Act. First, he did not answer my question, referred to Obama’s travel as a violation which is not my complaint. Second, he told me to contact the candidates for more inforation and was confident the nation’s voters will make informed choices in the upcoming election.
Is the guy stupid? I called his office and had an argument with the person answering the phone. Why in the hell would I ask Obama if he is in violation? He didn’t have an answer and kept hemming and hawing. I told him since Nelson had no answers, I’m sure Hannity and other news organizations would love to see the response he sent me. I’m going to e-mail the media regarding this “in the tank for Obama” response.
#99 HP Boston
Lol. Bill CLinton never mistakenly said anything in his life.
I know how good Bill is, I was opposed to some of his policies during his administartion and watched rip apart the reps who I agreed with, He did it with a smile and that southern charm
He is tearing CArpathia apart at every step.
The funny part is, “O” can only thank him for it. President Clinton wasn’t called “Slick Willie” for nothing.
I am loving it.
Also for anyone who does not know this about Sal Alinsky….Here is Saul Alinsky’s dedication to his own book: “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” Saul Alinsky dedicated the book that Barack Obama has learned from to the devil, to Satan. The book is “Rules For Radicals” by Sal Alinsky.
gee woke up to Fox news and thought i slept through the election/BO was speaking forever.um hum aw
#112 girlsrule
Son of a …
Alinsky was a Luciferian.
Oh you just explained more than you know.
Okay fellow MM. Time to get rolling.
sistesrule, LOLOLOLOL the breathalizer youtube is hillarious, LOLOLOLOl made my day
i meant…girlsrule with video links on youtube
ANNA ANNA ANNA
Here are the ‘points” http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/08/i-own-my-vote-virtual-democratic-platform-survey-results/
Here is the meeting on video: http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=280379-1
#109 Anna7000 Anna, I found this which might help you
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080907/OPINION01/809070321/1166/OPINION01
Maybe y’all have read this by now, but i just found it and had a few laughs…even though it’s by m.dowd.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opinion/21dowd-sorkin.html?em
This is great. Anyone catch the whole Biden interview with Katie Couric last night? That was the one where he called the Obama ad hitting MCCain for his lack of use of e-mail as “terrible”. There was so much attention on the e-mail comment, that the bigger gaffe just about slipped through the cracks – just about.
Biden was talking about the economic ptoblems now, and noted that FDR got on TV after the stock market crash and talked about it. A couple of minor details – FDR was not elected until 1932, and the first regular TV broadcast did not happen until 1939: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_garbles_Depression_history.html?showall
I am becoming more and more convinced that Biden actually attended Faber College, and that he legally changed his last name after graduation to “Biden” from “Blutarsky”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
#60 KarlaforHillary on 09.23.08 at 1:52 pm
So, if BO has all that education, why does he still say such stupid things?
PS: I have two Master’s Degrees….
#111 snowtiger
Me too. It is heart warming to see a real professional tighten the noose ever so gently, your death is painless.
A Rhodes scholar and a sweet talking man.
snow “Son of a …
Alinsky was a Luciferian.
Oh you just explained more than you know.
Okay fellow MM. Time to get rolling ”
Trismegistus would be proud
114 snowtiger
I have a lot of Luciferian friends…I love em, but they just don’t thinkgs through sometimes I am afraid…
#60 KarlaforHillary on 09.23.08 at 1:52 pm
You might cite all the presidents, their education level and their success. Woodrow Wilson, a professor (Yale or Princeton I think) is considered a very weak president.
123 TexasTigress
Poor Hermes….hiding my Thoth deck
Carrie – your friends are dunbasses lol
oops !! dumbasses lol
Hi Everyone,
Another busy day and I’m at a conference the next two days so I wanted to again ask you all to help with this prowl:
Prowl idea if anyone is interested. Thank you in advance It’s also in the Action Centre
E-mail:
ombudsman@cbc.ca
Prime Minister Stephen Harper – pm@pm.gc.ca
Hon. Stéphane Dion – Liberal Leader – info@liberal.ca
Dear Prime Minister Harper,
On September 5, 2008, Heather Mallick, a columnist with CBC.ca published an article regarding Sarah Palin and the American people. Her supervisor
publically approved and supported the article. This article was filled with slurs, sexism and derogatory comments directed at Alaskan Governor Palin and
the citizens of the United States of America. This type of journalism is totally unacceptable and repulsive, and it certainly does not speak for all Canadians, even though the author implies it does.
I am calling on you to ensure Heather offers a sincere public apology to all Americans. I also expect her boss to offer an apology for supporting such a vile and disgusting attempt at journalism. Then, I expect her
resignation over this article. As a American I am appalled that Canadian tax dollars are paying for such trash. The Canadian Government oversees the
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as it is a crown corporation. The written opinion of every reporter and columnist of CBC will be viewed as the Canadian perspective. I assure you that referring to Americans as white trash, or Gov. Palin as a porn actress is definitely not the opinion that Canadians hold.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/09/05/f-vp-mallick.html
Thank you
Name
Location
Just a repost for you from the previous post…462 pumasupporter on 09.23.08 at 2:11 pm GBPuma, based on those numbers, who has been the worst?
#463 GBPuma on 09.23.08 at 2:39 pm #460 pumasupporter…here is the full list just fyi.
President surplus or deficit for their own term budgets based on
Revenues – outlays fiscal responsibility. (the year after a President is elected is included in the previous President because it is their budget that is in operation.)
Combined total for Presidents 1789–1849 6.03%
# Combined total for Presidents 1850 – 1901 -6.17%
32 Franklin D. Roosevelt -112.74%
(an exception because of Great Depression and WW2 comnbined)
28 Woodrow Wilson -92.58%
(an exception because of WW1 expenses)
31 Herbert Hoover -61.54% ( We blame the Great Depression on Hoover but in reality it was already signaled and started in the last year of Collidge’s term, but his and congress’s failed policies did made it full blown)
(prior to the major effects of the depression had a positive surplus of 1929 = 19.01% and 1930 = 18.19% 1931 was 1st negative year of -14.83% and then 1932 = -142.15%, 1933 = -130.30%, 1934 = -121.35%)
41 George H. W. Bush -23.91%
40 Ronald Reagan -22.99%
38 Gerald Ford -19.27%
43 George W. Bush -14.03%
39 Jimmy Carter -12.77%
37 Richard Nixon -6.50%
35 John F. Kennedy -5.59%
36 Lyndon B. Johnson -4.84%
34 Dwight D. Eisenhower -2.43%
33 Harry S. Truman -1.19%
27 William Howard Taft -0.18%
42 Bill Clinton 0.47%
26 Theodore Roosevelt 0.47%
29 Warren G. Harding 20.53%
30 Calvin Coolidge 22.96%
#464 GBPuma on 09.23.08 at 2:53 pm Given all the circumstances that they had to deal with the cleanup of the depression and ww2 I would say that Harry S. Truman and then FDR were the best financial managers as President.
And G.W. Bush could have had a surplus if it wouldn’t have been for all the war expenses….but as usual just like he did with what was it the Texas Rangers baseball team that he owned take a profitable situation and run it into the ground…..
One suggestion is NEVER elect a President that has consistent business financial failures. LOL
Just to think of Obama’s lack of experience in anything I’d hate to speculate on how large his negative (deficit) numbers would be…..sad LOL….
Murphy,
I asked a few friends to check out the blog, they live in the US, so they looked in yesterday and said to tell you they were impressed with the conversation here and the knowledge people have. I’m hoping they look in again, they’re Bo supporters but there is still time to convert them.
Just prowled in Canada.
109 Anna7000
No link but it was a week or so before Denver…
and took place in… close to where Proud Military Mom lives… and, I kno wthis isn’t helpful… but thought it might jog the memory of others. It was held in a building that had a very large puma statue outside, and was in view of a billboard with Confluence written on it.
See? I recall details… just not the useful ones.
131 TrishfromCanada
I made a brief comment this morning about the add-on to your sexism prowl. Maybe you coul dremind folks again?
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132 Worker Bee
Just prowled in Canada.
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Great!
Trish… oops
Sorry.
I read the blog from the bottom up.
Gotta go for now. I just wanted to thank you all again for all of your help today. I am working hard to get these kool-aid drinkers to see the light.
#132 Worker Bee
woohoo thank you
I received a standard reply from the Prime Minister today:
Please know that your e-mail message has been received in the Prime Minister’s Office and that your comments have been noted. Our office always welcomes hearing from correspondents and being made aware of their views.
Thank you for writing.
Sachez que le Cabinet du Premier ministre a bien reçu votre courriel et que nous avons pris bonne note de vos commentaires. Nous aimons être bien informés de l’opinion des correspondants.
Je vous remercie d’avoir écrit au Premier ministre.
#25 diva2 on 09.23.08 at 1:09 pm
FOX NEWS-RESPOND to a QUESTION
Fox just a poll showing how many Hillary supporters have got on board behind nobo.
June 58%
September 58%
They want people to write in as to why they think this number hasn’t changed:
americas-talking@foxnews.com
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I haven’t had time to blog today, but wrote this as my reply to Fox and also sent the info on Lynette’s article:
http://www.lynettelong.com/
Here is my letter:
To Foxnews,
In response as to why Hillary supporters are not ‘falling in line’ to support Barack Obama I will pass on the reasons listed below by Lynette Long, which are more eloquent than I am able to express.
The main reasons are that Barack Obama and his campaign held Camp Obama http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11012254 groups all over the US (and still are) to rev up young voters to intimidate and bully opposing voters, (telling them to ‘get in peoples’ faces, they had to win at any cost)…this worked well in the primary caucuses and led to caucus fraud in the election, STEALING the win from Hillary Clinton!
http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/
On top of that travesty, the Obama Campaign and the DNC not only shut out communication of the Hillary Delegates (before the convention in Denver) with one another in multiple states (so they could be supportive of each other in voting for Senator Clinton) , but also threatened to cut off funding from the DNC to their local Democratic Parties for their future political campaigns) bullied them into not representing Hillay’s 18 million voters, and giving their votes to Barack in a ‘show of unity’. We have proof of this in about 15 pages of notes written by those Clinton delegates. Why do the delegates not come forward and make this public? Because the liberal and conservative news will not print it… and believe me, many of us have sent information of the caucus fraud to Fox, MSNBC, CNN, and all news agents.
These two issues are the elephants in the room, but the news will spin it as something else, many will say that Hillary supporters are voting for McCain because Palin is a woman, this is not the real reason. There are millions of us, some call themselves PUMAs and we will do what ever we can to keep Obama out of the Whitehouse. I will be voting for a Republican for the second time in my long life. I remembered I did vote for Arnold in California because I was sick of the financial mess in my state and I hoped that Maria – being a good democrat would make sure he didn’t pull any Republican shenanigans in our blue state.
That being said, here are the reasons I will not vote for Obama and will vote for McCain as a PROTEST vote against Obama and the DNC in November.
If joe biden keeps making gaffes, LOLOLOLOLOL
obama will throw him under bus and back over it
#135 DancesWithPumas
I did see your post when I logged in a few minutes ago, thank you very much
I appreciate it!
Good post, billijo
#25 diva
“They want people to write in as to why they think this number hasn’t changed”
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And… we’re just the group to do it!!
19 notfollowinthepiedpiper
That is pushing the limits on free speech because it is possible that it would en site violence…..and do you citizens understand that free speech and the rights of the constitution have been cited as not applying until you are the age of voting age and a “full voting” responsible citizen……so there are restrictions placed on free speech based on topic and persons age, that you/we can not just say and do whatever we want.
From Ricki Lieberman
All,
In the pursuit of a veto proof Congress, we have a wonderful opportunity to show support for a strong Hillary Democrat, Mike McMahon. Mike is running for an open Congressional seat serving Staten Island and Brooklyn which has been in Republican hands. Please join us on Monday, October 6, but if not, please contribute as generously as possible and indicate your appreciation for Mike’s strong support for Senator Clinton.
GO GO GO!
Ricki
n.b. Senator Clinton along with the New York Congressional delegation has been invited to attend.
Please Join
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Christine C. Quinn
At the home of
Ricki Lieberman
for a reception honoring
Michael McMahon
New York City Councilman
Candidate for Congress, District NY-13 (Open Seat)
“This year we have a historic opportunity to turn the last Republican Congressional District in New York City Democratic. We are committed to seeing that Mike McMahon is successful.” – Joint Statement from the New York City Congressional Delegation
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TOPIC: PUMA’s & UPCOMING DEBATES
Q – Anyone got any good ideas how we could organize a PUMA prowl to help form the Q’s & A’s in the upcoming debates?
Specifically I’d like to see both candidates answer to questions about women’s issues including Equal pay, maternity leave (I’m done having babies but I’d sure like to see US advance a little so that I don’t have to hear any more horror stories about women going back to work after 3-4 weeks “off” at the checkout line), also help for women-owned business, any other things near & dear to the hearts of PUMA’s?? Oh, and maybe we could ask them how they think the issue of gender has influenced the election, haha…
While researching my newspaper project – found Kansas City, Missouri newspaper where you can make your comment known and do not have to get an account number – anyone want to send anything to them – Berg Lawsuit, Logan Act, etc etc – link is as follows: — I have already put in my two cents worth
Missouri is a key state to defeat Obama.
http://www.pitch.com/feedback/add/716869/
Did you guys see on Fox the story about the 5th grader getting suspended for wearing an anti- Obama t-shirt ? Is that a glimpse of what our society will look like if he gets elected ???
http://buchanan.org/blog/2008/09/pjb-an-amnesty-for-stupidity/
137 Trish — you’re welcome. my relatives in Quebec are amused by the election antics, and are quite liking the Palin effect. Can’t wait to tell them about my prowl.
#124 Caracal Carrie
Lol and all other travelers.
Idk about your contact with followers of the light bringer, mine have been very very bad.
I wouldn’t trust one if they told me the sun rose in the east.
Lara08,
Good link & I posted there, thanks.
#123 TexasTigress
I should hope so.
Or is that a paradox? LOL
snow –
lol
McCain and Obama to be at Pres. Clinton’s annual meeting:
I received an email from Pres. Clinton’s foundation today. Part of the email is shown below, including the link to be able to get transcripts, etc.
“On Wednesday, leaders from business, government, philanthropy, and religion will again gather in New York City for the fourth Clinton Global Initiative Annual
Meeting”
“Distinguished guests will include Her Royal Highness Rania Al-Abdullah, Queen of Jordan, President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, Senator Barack Obama, Senator John McCain”
“In addition to live webcasts of all the events, you can find schedules, transcripts, and photos at
http://www.clintonglobalintiaitive.org
during and after the meeting. “
I thought this was very interesting:
John Kerry Tops List of 10 Richest in Congress
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:04 PM
By: Jim Meyers
Roll Call newspaper has issued its annual list of the “50 Richest Members of Congress” — and despite the oft-held view that Republicans are the only fatcats, there are actually more Democrats in the top 10 than Republicans.
Democratic Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., heads the list with nearly a quarter of a billion dollars, and a fellow Democrat, Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, squeaks in at No. 50 with $5.02 million.
But Washington, D.C.-based Roll Call cautions that the list can be misleading. It is based on the lawmakers’ financial disclosure forms, which are “extraordinarily unreliable sources of information.”
For one thing, the rules do not require the disclosure forms to include the value of a primary residence or other home not used for rentals, or the value of cars, airplanes, antiques or other valuable items.
Also, Roll Call notes, “there is no way to tell the difference between a $20 million investment and a $5 million investment.”
And because the top category on the members’ forms is “over $50 million,” it is impossible to accurately account for anything worth more than that.
Sen. Ted Kennedy, for example, reports a worth of less than $48 million on his disclosure form, while his trusts have reportedly been valued at over $500 million.
Here is the top 10:
1. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. — $230.98 million.
Kerry’s wife Teresa is the widow of Heinz ketchup heir John Heinz, and Forbes magazine has estimated the couple’s actual worth at $1 billion.
2. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif. — $225.96 million
Harman is heavily invested in Harman International Industries, an electronics firm founded by her husband.
3. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. — $160.62 million
Issa is the founder of Directed Electronics, which manufactures car alarms.
4. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. — $80.4 million
The senator is a descendant of oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller.
5. Rep. Robin Hayes, R-N.C. — $78.96 million
Hayes inherited millions when his mother died in 2007, and he has large holdings in stocks, bonds, and real estate.
6. Rep. Vern Buchanan, R-Fla. — $65.49 million
The congressman owns several car dealerships and an aircraft charter business.
7. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. — $55.33 million
Lautenberg made millions from the payroll processing firm he founded.
8. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. — $52.34 million
The senator is married to financier Richard Blum, and the couple own all or part of numerous limited partnerships.
9. Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. — $47.62 million
Much of Kennedy’s wealth comes from family trusts, including one valued from $25 million to $50 million.
10. Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore. — $28.65 million
Smith’s fortune comes largely from Smith Food Sales, which markets frozen vegetables.
The list includes 23 Democrats in all, including Rep. Nancy Pelosi at No. 17 ($18.71 million) and Sen. Hillary Clinton at No. 29 ($10.39 million).
Sen. John McCain is No. 13 with $19.64 million, although some media outlets have stated that his wife Cindy’s net worth may exceed $100 million.
TEXAS TIGRESS, LADYHAWKKE AND DANCES (sort of)
Thanks for the info. Texas, that’s exactly what I needed! Ladyhawkke, very interesting and super relevant article. Got it all book marked. Dances, you helped to create a visual back drop for it all!
#57 Mary Beth613
I’ve always admired Lynette Long
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I agree, she is one of my favorite people in this PUMA revolution along with Murphy and Mama, Will and the big paws.
Lynette is the one that proves the caucus fraud!
#138 BillieJo, Just sent this.
If the media had treated Obama they way they have treated every politician in my life time, that is to say do their job, you would already have your answer. Instead it has fallen to independent groups to fully examine Senator Obamas history and claims.
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California Independent
PUMA PAC member.
ARTICLE POSTING SUGGESTION
Anyone who wants to post an entire article (not just the link) has to pay for ad time! Maybe $5 or $10. What do you think?
#159 Anna7000
Kinda like our non-binding first person in has to donate.
No. Some of us are broke atm. A suggested donation would be better.
#60 KarlaforHillary on 09.23.08 at 1:52 pm
HELP, HELP–
Ok Pumas. I need some help here. I just lost a girlfriend of 30+ years today because I sent her some more facts about Obama. She drank the kool-aid a long time ago. Then, after sending the same facts to my sister, I received the following e-mail:
So, vote for John McCain who ranked 894 out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who has no college degree to substantiate his claim of being qualified to run this country. With that, vote for Sarah Palin whose only degree is a bachelor’s degree in journalism. She can report the news of our country, but she is not qualified to make the decisions. Or, better yet, vote for Ralph Nader. You just never know where he can take this country. All I know is, when I weigh out who if more qualified, I’m voting for Obama who holds several degrees and graduated from Harvard University with a doctorate. Education matters!
Does anyone have any information on the education of McCain or Palin? I don’t. My sister is a teacher and she believes that anyone without college is an idiot.
————
Karla, what trumps formal education?
CAUCUS FRAUD AND DELEGATE INTIMIDATION!!!!
This is your proof why a formal education isn’t the issue.
HELP NEEDED (again)
Does anyone have info that verifies that the DNC Drafting Committee mtg summarily rejected the I Own My Vote platform outright? I have the C-Span link of the entire meeting (thanks to Texas Tigress), but before I launch into another thrilling day of watching Howard Dean and his cronies drone on and one trying to find the 12 second segment where they rejected the I Own My Vote Platform without even a discussion about it, though I’d try to cut to the chase and see if anyone has info about that Moment of Rejection!
GBPuma-I made a note to myself that you had a question regarding investigation of BO, a few days ago I think. Do you recall the question? I did some investigating regarding security clearances, background checks, etc. I have been keeping my eye out for a time when we would be on at the same time.
BHO entirely missed one of the questions. He was asked about what would happen to the AUTO Industry and he went on and on and on about something – everything except the automobile industry!
Karla – Don’t forget that obo won’t release his college records , so he could very well be the dumbass we know him to be – just because we paid for him to go to those great schools doesn’t mean he is not a fucktard .
Further , George Bush went to Ivy league schools as well , what good did it do him ? He can’t even say NUCLEAR !!!!
#122 HP Boston
This such a weird election cycle. All these democrats looking forward to the republican machine to rollover “O”. I was actually rooting for Gloria Alred (whom I despise, politically speaking) and so many republicans must be cheering president Clinton on.
Yup. “O” has brought many diverse people together.
#149 Worker Bee
What part of Quebec?
My mother is from Montreal.
And my absolute favourite city in Canada is Quebec City, its just so cute.
150 snowtiger
LOL snow they are my special way ward kids….
A few fries short of a happy meal though..they get mad at me when I tell them being a Luciferian means they belive in God…well DUH!
#159 Anna7000 on 09.23.08 at 3:39 pm ARTICLE POSTING SUGGESTION
Anyone who wants to post an entire article (not just the link) has to pay for ad time! Maybe $5 or $10. What do you think?
So better yet why don’t we charge everybody that comments at all by the letter….come on now get real.
not sure if anyone has seen this video…what Hillary really thinks about Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQadAAlK9c4
#168 Caracal Carrie
More importantly, Jehovah. You might want to add that Saint MIchael and company won.
Or maybe not. Some aren’t very stable. Ever read Michael Ford?
Makes Crowley look like a toddler.
#60 KarlaforHillary on 09.23.08 at 1:52 pm
Typically, your college education is only important for your first job right out of college. After that recruiters usually focus on REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. I think those who live in the world of academia don’t always understand this.
Take it upstairs!
#163 webfoot on 09.23.08 at 3:46 pm GBPuma-I made a note to myself that you had a question regarding investigation of BO, a few days ago I think. Do you recall the question? I did some investigating regarding security clearances, background checks, etc. I have been keeping my eye out for a time when we would be on at the same time.
Whoo that’s a long time ago …the mind is lucky to remember 2 hrs ago…LOL
can you give me a hint….I usually get to looking for the information myself…..was it about the Berg case or …. usually I am the one that finds the answers for onthers questions
171 snowtiger
I have read Michael Ford! But I truly think Crowely is soley based on his love of the sound of his own voice.
All my luciferian friends tease me that Satan could show up standing right infront of me and I would argue with him about his own existence…they are probably right.
JUST GOT THIS E-MAIL RE: PALIN POLL FROM A BOT COLLEAGUE
We REALLY need to turn this poll around! Please take the 30 seconds to Vote NOW.
The GOP is urging people to vote in a PBS to show that Sarah Palin is qualified to be a heart beat away from the Oval Office. When I last checked – - – the ayes were leading!!!
You can help to turn this around!!!
The poll asks: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP? Yes or No. You do not have to give your name or email to vote. It’s very simple.
Here’s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
(sorry if someone already posted this link)
Just click & vote…and forward this note to your friends and colleagues!
#60 KarlaforHillary
McCain’s degree from the Naval Academy is in Electrical Engineering (1958). He flew jets off of aircraft carriers, and was certified to drive naval ships. All Naval Academy degrees back then were in some form of engineering.
Yes he graduated 894 out 899, he is very intelligent but liked to have a good time. He was known to do well in subjects he enjoyed like literature and history, but worked just hard enough to pass other subjects he did not enjoy.
Keep in mind that this is the Naval Academy of the 1950′s. It was very tough physically and mentally. Many more cadets washed out back then. McCain could have easily skated through most liberal arts schools with good grades.
He was a naval aviator and squadron commander overseeing other pilots and millions of dollars of equipment.
McCain attended the National War College 1973-74. Kinda like a graduate program. “The College is concerned with grand strategy and the utilization of the national resources necessary to implement that strategy… Its graduates will exercise a great influence on the formulation of national and foreign policy in both peace and war….”
Mid-level and senior military officers who are likely to be promoted to the most senior ranks are selected to study at the War College in preparation for higher staff and command positions. This means that not just any bozo gets to go to the National War College.
McCain retired from the Navy in April 1981 with the rank of Captain. A rank above commander and below rear admiral. It is equivalent to the rank of colonel in the other uniformed services.
#147Texas Tigress: I like the spirit of that fifth grader…
He is a Puma and doesn’t know it. I wish we knew how we could send him an Orange PumaTee shirt for his expression of his free speech rights…Good for him…
and …shutting him up, along with everything else Obimbo has done in the campaign to assault dissent and distort truth are only an inkling of what to expect if this man wins. He does this to gain control; what would one expect after he has it? Openness
That’s…Openess???????
CarricalCarrie: I hope your Luciferian friends live there and not here! What do your Luciferian friends espouse that in anyway is worthy of following?..i.e. I mean are Luciferians the same as Satanists or is this a new variation on a very old, old, dangerous theme.
The financial bailout may end up being the deciding factor in the campaign. Political capital will go to the candidate that makes the right choice. McCain has already said he is deeply concerned about the bailout, so his chips are coming down on the table. Obama has yet to put down his marker.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,426505,00.html
I just spoke to my sister in nj
and she said on rt 80 , there was one of those trucks with sort of tractor wheels with a huge sing that said
YOU WANT CHANGE
VOTE NOBAMA
and I said that must be a puma
And in a recent poll, only 28% of the people were for the bailout.
“Funny thing about auras, though — they’re kind of hard to stick a pin into.”
True and they also have a muddy color when they are being disingenuousness.
Their true light does not shine forth, we will never have to worry about Obama’s true light or lact thereof.
Here’s good news about Omamamania waning in Wisconsin:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1178184,obamarally092208.article
Statistical dead heat.
If they kill the bailout, McCain will look prescient, and Obama will seem like a deer caught in the headlights.
Wow, McCain can make political hay out of this:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/stephanopoulo-4.html
Democrats won’t pass bailout bill unless McCain votes for it. How absolutely craven this appears.
Unbelievable, they are giving away free Obama buttons.
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They’ll have to rent out the Stadium when Palin comes to Scranton PA. Think it holds about 8,000. Won’t need to offer a free concert before her appearance to fill the stadium either!
188 ladyhawkke See if you can get about 30-50 of them and then send them back C.O.D.??
185 Godzilla He’s aleady said he doesn’t like it. Plus there are (were) earmarks attached it it and that’s a BIG no-no to McCain, even on a good day!
Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?
Yes 50%
No 48%
Not Sure 0%
Your first and only allowed vote for this poll has been counted. This is not a scientific poll.
Re: Sarah Palin crowd in Florida – Our local Fliorida news station estimated the crowd to be 50,000!!!
Also, for the PUMAS who live here in Florida, how many of you saw this article in the St. Pete Times
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/23/fl-paper-quotes-white-woman-racist-against-obama-she-says-she-ne
Another interesting article about Obama’s tuition payments at Harvard.
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html
Amazingly enough, McCain/Palin outdraw Obama in Wisconsin rally by 4,000. How is that possible? How will Obama spin this?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1178184,obamarally092208.article?plckCurrentPage=8&sid=sitelife.suntimes.com
Dear PUMA Folks,
The below are the Battleground State numbers this morning off of RealClearPolitics.com.
WE CAN DO THIS…. I encourage everybody to get some good stuff out into on-line media in the below markets NOW! It works. The material I posted earlier this week in the Miami Herald (two different postings, same day) is getting the highest number of Recommends over some 5-6 pages of reader comments. PEOPLE ARE LISTENING. Get your stuff out there. Use my material (posted here earlier this week) if you want to.
I may write something new this weekend, or add to what I have already written.
Thank you.
Signed: CommonSense12
Ohio (20) Obama 45.1 McCain 46.7 McCain +1.6
Pennsylvania (21) Obama 47.0 McCain 44.5 Obama +2.5
Florida (27) Obama 46.0 McCain 48.0 McCain +2.0
Virginia (13) Obama 46.0 McCain 47.3 McCain +1.3
Wisconsin (10) Obama 48.0 McCain 44.8 Obama +3.2
Colorado (9) Obama 48.4 McCain 44.4 Obama +4.0
Minnesota (10) Obama 48.0 McCain 45.2 Obama +2.8
Indiana (11) Obama 45.5 McCain 47.8 McCain +2.3
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Common Sense 12
“Obama wanted to create an agency to investigate this financial debacle. However, there is such an agency in place already, the Government Accounting Office (GAO).”
This just sums up how the guy operates….create another money hungry agency to blow millions more dollars to investigate why we’re having to shell out billions of dollars……
BRILLIANT! I loved this post had to repost it….OBAMA the TAX and SPEND politician! HE wants his OWN organization….he will do this throughout his Presidency if he makes it! PEOPLE he will be more of a DIVA than OPRAH!
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