Comments on: Let’s Talk About Race http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/ People United Means Action Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:24:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: NoHillaryNoVote http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-162571 NoHillaryNoVote Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:48:51 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-162571 I am African American, and I don't believe that the statements made by the Dems (i.e. if BO loses it will be because of racism) has much at all to do with all the perceived manipulative "white guilt" strategy. I think it's all about the Dems (especially Dean, Brazille, Pelosi & Reid) trying to protect their jobs. If BO loses they don't want anyone pointing at them for their bad leadership and instead they want to start now building a case that says it's racism in America that defeated BO and that they did all they could do. They want to appear to be above everyone else when the election is over. It's just a smoke screen. If they can get us all focused on defending our decision not to vote for BO, and if they can keep us talking about how we are not racist - then they know that No One will be talking about what a lousy job those four have done or how they manipulated everything and in fact chased Democrats away from the party. Don't fall for this scam. Stay on topic. Keep slamming the Dem party for what they did during the primaries. Keep speaking up against all 4 of them as incompetent. Don't let them redirect the discussion to "race" to keep us from talking about the Dem Party and how they removed the democracy from the process. When we use our blog time to debate race it's one less argument we are making against the Dem Party. We can't solve the race issue here - but we can sure make very strong cases for why others who visit our site should not vote for BO. I am African American, and I don’t believe that the statements made by the Dems (i.e. if BO loses it will be because of racism) has much at all to do with all the perceived manipulative “white guilt” strategy.
I think it’s all about the Dems (especially Dean, Brazille, Pelosi & Reid) trying to protect their jobs. If BO loses they don’t want anyone pointing at them for their bad leadership and instead they want to start now building a case that says it’s racism in America that defeated BO and that they did all they could do. They want to appear to be above everyone else when the election is over.
It’s just a smoke screen. If they can get us all focused on defending our decision not to vote for BO, and if they can keep us talking about how we are not racist – then they know that No One will be talking about what a lousy job those four have done or how they manipulated everything and in fact chased Democrats away from the party.
Don’t fall for this scam. Stay on topic. Keep slamming the Dem party for what they did during the primaries. Keep speaking up against all 4 of them as incompetent. Don’t let them redirect the discussion to “race” to keep us from talking about the Dem Party and how they removed the democracy from the process.
When we use our blog time to debate race it’s one less argument we are making against the Dem Party. We can’t solve the race issue here – but we can sure make very strong cases for why others who visit our site should not vote for BO.

]]> By: BrianH http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-162470 BrianH Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:30:52 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-162470 #358 minivee; "ABC’s Breach of Ethnics". What did "ethnics" have to do with it? Sorry, couldn't resist! :D ;) #358 minivee;
“ABC’s Breach of Ethnics”.

What did “ethnics” have to do with it?

Sorry, couldn’t resist! :D ;)

]]> By: BrianH http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-162468 BrianH Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:28:31 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-162468 #200 osaka puma; My understanding is that much better financed and organized Mexican drug gangs are wiping the floor with the local black versions, too. That may have much to do with the black-brown racewar scenario. #200 osaka puma;

My understanding is that much better financed and organized Mexican drug gangs are wiping the floor with the local black versions, too. That may have much to do with the black-brown racewar scenario.

]]> By: BrianH http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-162464 BrianH Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:23:27 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-162464 Ario, Pumasupporter, Alice1943, Asian4Hillary; I b'lieve he’s not even technically black. The numbers I saw and think are accurate are: 8/16 Caucasian, 7/16 Arab, 1/16 Negro, which is below the usual bar (1/8). Moreover, he was raised Indonesian and white, not ever black … so he’s pretense from A to Z. Does this make any difference to how AAs see him? Ario, Pumasupporter, Alice1943, Asian4Hillary;
I b’lieve he’s not even technically black.

The numbers I saw and think are accurate are: 8/16 Caucasian, 7/16 Arab, 1/16 Negro, which is below the usual bar (1/8). Moreover, he was raised Indonesian and white, not ever black … so he’s pretense from A to Z.

Does this make any difference to how AAs see him?

]]> By: Caribbean Puma http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-162244 Caribbean Puma Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:36:43 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-162244 Race the only race am seeing is the democrat party is now being shaped and designed to reflect itself as a party of another ethnic group. Then is that now what we were told in the primaries that there were lots of blacks joining the party since Obama was the candidate, were we not made to feel that our votes were really not needed since all these new voters were coming in so what if some of us left? America is changing the polls are already saying pretty soon America will be the land of minorities, so the DNC is tapping into that, they are paving the way for years to come, this is the changing face of the DNC, and its up to some to either accept that and go along or move on and find another party to support, but bet your sweet life win or lose the DNC with Obama and his supporters will never be the same as it was. There are new power brokers in there, new movers and shakers all in tune with Obama, the Clinton years are over and we must all accept that because it will never change back to how it was before, to believe that is wishful thinking the stage is being set. Race the only race am seeing is the democrat party is now being shaped and designed to reflect itself as a party of another ethnic group.

Then is that now what we were told in the primaries that there were lots of blacks joining the party since Obama was the candidate, were we not made to feel that our votes were really not needed since all these new voters were coming in so what if some of us left?

America is changing the polls are already saying pretty soon America will be the land of minorities, so the DNC is tapping into that, they are paving the way for years to come, this is the changing face of the DNC, and its up to some to either accept that and go along or move on and find another party to support, but bet your sweet life win or lose the DNC with Obama and his supporters will never be the same as it was.

There are new power brokers in there, new movers and shakers all in tune with Obama, the Clinton years are over and we must all accept that because it will never change back to how it was before, to believe that is wishful thinking the stage is being set.

]]> By: oneilma http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-161857 oneilma Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:13:39 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-161857 I grew up in the South in the 1950s before segregation, yet my parents, being good Christians, were never racist and raised us not to be so either. I suffered a lot in college in the 1960s because I was from the South. Now my white friends accuse me of racism because i will not vote for Obama. What a set back for everything MLKing stood for. Now, we ignore the content of a person's character and concentrate on the color of his skin! Wright and his religion are blatantly racist. I grew up in the South in the 1950s before segregation, yet my parents, being good Christians, were never racist and raised us not to be so either. I suffered a lot in college in the 1960s because I was from the South. Now my white friends accuse me of racism because i will not vote for Obama. What a set back for everything MLKing stood for. Now, we ignore the content of a person’s character and concentrate on the color of his skin! Wright and his religion are blatantly racist.

]]> By: GoHillaryGo http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-161774 GoHillaryGo Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:24:54 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-161774 #11 mlhath on 09.22.08 at 11:26 am Osaka Puma: yes, it was an epiphany. I have had several lately. There were a number of entities that I have grown up with in the complete assurance that they and I were on the side of Right. #1: the church: I lost that community when I chose McCain. #2 the Dem party: I don’t think I need comment. #3 feminists: I marched for the ERA, I marched for RvW. And now I find out I am once again relegatged to 2nd class because I do not support Obama. This has been a hard year for my idealism. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sit quietly in a chair. close your eyes. feel LOVE. sit and mediate and FEEL. Feel Love. With practice you can do it for a very long time. Now as you are feeling Love be aware that the Love is flowing through YOU. Feel how wonderful you are because you can feel love inside of yourself. As you do this each day you will become aware of more TRUTH. For you will experience that the LOVE is who you really are. It is in this place of feeling love that you are in the Eternal Now moment. This is where your happiness resides. not out there in groups or ideas of the world. But inside of yourself in the place of Eternal Love which is who and what you are. For it is here that you will experience an eternal incredible BLISS that you will feel as if LOVE Is going to OVERPOWER YOU. But have no fear. Love is who you are. You are feeling the TRUTH that the ONE TRUE GOD is inside of you. Everything external is an illusion of the mind. So rejoice that the church the party and the feminists have not brought you eternal happiness for they never could bring you eternal happiness. Eternal Happiness can ONLY be fround inside of yourself as you experience LOVE flow through you as being who you really are. #11 mlhath on 09.22.08 at 11:26 am Osaka Puma:

yes, it was an epiphany. I have had several lately. There were a number of entities that I have grown up with in the complete assurance that they and I were on the side of Right.

#1: the church: I lost that community when I chose McCain.
#2 the Dem party: I don’t think I need comment.
#3 feminists: I marched for the ERA, I marched for RvW. And now I find out I am once again relegatged to 2nd class because I do not support Obama.

This has been a hard year for my idealism.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sit quietly in a chair. close your eyes. feel LOVE. sit and mediate and FEEL. Feel Love. With practice you can do it for a very long time.

Now as you are feeling Love be aware that the Love is flowing through YOU. Feel how wonderful you are because you can feel love inside of yourself.

As you do this each day you will become aware of more TRUTH. For you will experience that the LOVE is who you really are. It is in this place of feeling love that you are in the Eternal Now moment. This is where your happiness resides. not out there in groups or ideas of the world. But inside of yourself in the place of Eternal Love which is who and what you are.

For it is here that you will experience an eternal incredible BLISS that you will feel as if LOVE Is going to OVERPOWER YOU. But have no fear. Love is who you are. You are feeling the TRUTH that the ONE TRUE GOD is inside of you. Everything external is an illusion of the mind.

So rejoice that the church the party and the feminists have not brought you eternal happiness for they never could bring you eternal happiness. Eternal Happiness can ONLY be fround inside of yourself as you experience LOVE flow through you as being who you really are.

]]> By: tec1965 http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-161770 tec1965 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:23:04 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-161770 murphy i really think we should all partake in a massive boycott of advertizers on these biased media sites and let them know why we are boycotting them , maybee if we hit them in the wallet/pocketbook they will start reporting on facts and not biased b/s/ if any one has any orginizational skills who can get something like this going i would love to participate and im fairly certain many others might act on this as well murphy i really think we should all partake in a massive boycott of advertizers on these biased media sites and let them know why we are boycotting them , maybee if we hit them in the wallet/pocketbook they will start reporting on facts and not biased b/s/
if any one has any orginizational skills who can get something like this going i would love to participate
and im fairly certain many others might act on this as well

]]> By: mini vee http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-161709 mini vee Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:44:08 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-161709 interviewing = interview...sorry for typo interviewing = interview…sorry for typo

]]> By: mini vee http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/22/lets-talk-about-race/comment-page-8/#comment-161708 mini vee Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:43:33 +0000 http://blog.pumapac.org/?p=1398#comment-161708 OT: A video clip from NewsMax discussing ABC's Breach of Ethnics in editing Palin's interviewing. The last time I felt this manipulated by the media, George Bush became our president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds6IjV0__BA&eurl=http://blogsforjohnmccain.com/abcs-breach-ethics-palin-interview OT: A video clip from NewsMax discussing ABC’s Breach of Ethnics in editing Palin’s interviewing. The last time I felt this manipulated by the media, George Bush became our president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds6IjV0__BA&eurl=http://blogsforjohnmccain.com/abcs-breach-ethics-palin-interview

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