Let’s Learn Them

Are you a woman considering a career in politics? Are you a woman with ambition? Would you like to participate in government or other forums for the powerful and influential? Well, Girls — be prepared! The Democratic Underbelly sees you like this:

Dear Puma PAC,

This is the first of today’s PROWLS. It’s not exactly hush-hush, as you can see, but I want this one to reach far and wide. Today we are talking back to the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Underbelly.

Here is an excerpt from Matt Taibbi’s article in the latest Rolling Stone:

Sarah Palin is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the modern United States. As a representative of our political system, she’s a new low in reptilian villainy, the ultimate cynical masterwork of puppeteers like Karl Rove. But more than that, she is a horrifying symbol of how little we ask for in return for the total surrender of our political power. Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she’s the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV — and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the base energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.

–snip –

She appeared to be completely without shame and utterly full of shit, awing a room full of hardened reporters with her sickly-sweet line about the high-school-flame-turned-hubby who “five children later,” is “still my guy.” It was like watching Gidget address the Reichstag.

Here’s the PROWL:

1. Send an email to rgscustserv@cdsfulfillment.com and tell them what you think of political discourse that uses sexist stereotypes to belittle women candidates. Give them an earful.

2. Call the Rolling Stones office today and demand an apology from Matt Taibbi and his “editors.” Telephone: (212) 484-1616. Give them an earful.

3. Blog the Democratic Underbelly. Let them know what real Democrats look like, think like, and talk like. Click on this link and post your comments. Let’s take this fight back to where it started so we can nip this ugliness in the bud every chance we get. Blog the Puma message HERE. Give them an earful.

 

Here is today’s Second PROWL. First, read Riverdaughter’s excellent take-down of the condescending Obots who desperately, though ignorantly, in classic concern troll fashion want to teach us about “what the Democratic Party really stands for” and why it is so crucial that we submit to their superior understanding. Then read THIS heartfelt post on the Democratic Underbelly by a woman who really wants to get it right. I don’t blame her — she did her best (though why in the HELL she is blogging at the Democratic Underbelly when she is clearly an intelligent and subtle thinker I’ll never know . . .). The point of this BLOG PROWL is not to confront the author, but the madness she provoked in her Underbelly readers. If the author hasn’t been PUMATIZED by the reaction of her supposed allies to her post, then she is likely beyond help. This is an Open Invitation to NikkiStone! Join Puma PAC and become part of the solution you so clearly and sincerely wish to facilitate. For the rest of us, get over there and COMMENT! Take the fight back to their Swamp! Give them an earful.

683 comments ↓

#1 lilibet on 09.22.08 at 3:05 pm

First??

#2 lilibet on 09.22.08 at 3:06 pm

I like the prowls today.

#3 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 3:14 pm

I called Rolling Stone. They said he is a freelance writer, and connected me to “us” magazine. I got a voice mail of course, but left an earful and my phone number, told them I was a Puma, and this would not be the last they hear from us. I also told Rolling Stone that they are still responsible because they printed the article.

#4 NJPUMA on 09.22.08 at 3:16 pm

4th?

Karl Rove’s Electoral College Map of today:

http://www.rove.com/election

#5 lilibet on 09.22.08 at 3:17 pm

Now that I’ve read the prowl completely, I am so dumfounded that I am wordless because I don’t have the appropriate words in my vocabulary to describe this worthless creature that is MATT TAIBBI!

It will give me great pleasure to do those prowls today, the least that I can do.. I’ll leave it to others to describe this excuse for a human being.

#6 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 3:17 pm

337 Rodham in Flag Hi there! Haven’t had a chance to talk to you much these days.

There are other PUMA sites that we interact with so some of us are doing more than just what is seen here. You are only seeing a part of the action here, there’s alot of PUMAs doing alot of different things. The majority of ideas do come from here though.

#7 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 3:20 pm

Good prowls. Also, for more instances of obvious sexism and misogyny against Palin, here:

Website: Sarah Palin Sexism Watch

http://palinsexismwatch.blogspot.com/

Do you know of instances of sexism directed at Sarah Palin?

Submit your tips to:

palinsexismwatch@live.com

#8 murphy on 09.22.08 at 3:20 pm

oh and btw, thanks very much to Taggles for clueing me in to the Democratic Underbelly posts.

She does this work for us so we dont have to!

#9 Rodham in Flag on 09.22.08 at 3:20 pm

Hey Gypsy – that was not my point – I KNOW there are a lot of people doing things here and you are one of them – I was just agreeing with Freddie that there are a couple that must have a teleprompter in front of them that needs a chat room to say everything that they are saying – there is no way they can be doing anything else but typing – look back at the previous post -

I ALWAYS love your letters that you contribute and have STOLEN a few from you with my letters to editors and blogging on line in some of the key states newspapers…

#10 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.22.08 at 3:21 pm

#133 murphy on 09.22.08 at 12:58 pm (re-posting from downstairs)

If I were President, my agenda would be:

1. Universal Health Care
2. New Deal on Public School Education
3. 1 year Military/Public Service requirement for ALL 18 year-olds
4. Practically Free College education at State universities and colleges with Major investment in rebuilding and improving the quality and infrastructure of the state college system
5. Major investment in Mass Transit, including funding green-collar constrcution and engineering jobs for American citizens

That would be my 5 Point Plan for attacking poverty at the roots in America.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Murphy- you have my vote

#11 Grizzly on 09.22.08 at 3:21 pm

If I were a Democratic candidate “down ticket” in November I would be greatly concerned at this point. The tactics Obama is employing runs a very high risk of painting all other candidates with the same brush. DO they really want to be viewed as misogynysts and empty hacks willing to do and say anything to get elected?

And i would be especially concerned since Obama rejected Harry Reid’s plea for help out of hand. Obama not only refused to share his campaign war chest, he also refused to make appearances at DNC events which would help all DEmocrats running in November. He did graciously agree to allow them to use Obama’s name in their campaign literature.

This is just not a concern for Democrats; it is critical concern to the American people. A strong two party system provides choices and theoretically at least, keeps both sides honest.

With just 6 weeks to go, it would not surprise me at all to start seeing down ticket Dems begin to actively distance themselves from Obama.

#12 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:22 pm

Look out, Iran!! Here we come!!!

#13 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 3:22 pm

Called the number above and an exasperated receptionist transferred me to a voice mail line for US magazine.

#14 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 3:23 pm

Copied from downstairs:

#286 Hillfan wrote: Many AA were voting more than once. BUT the DNC decided ‘they didnt know better’ and didnt want to embarrass the AA community not with an AA candidate.”
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Well, I hate to say this… but if they are not bright enough to know they voted more than once than I don’t think they are bright enough to vote at ALL – and that is irregardless of color. They knew very well what they were doing;and the DNC not only knew it, but went along with it. What happened to our rights? What happened to democracy? Why are we being controlled by a “machine” like the DNC or the Chicao politics? What happened to “we, the people”??? Who cares about US anymore? Surely not the MSM and surely not the DNC…..sigh…………..

#15 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 3:24 pm

Copied from downstairs:

Did anyone notice that in those so-called polls asking if Palin is qualified to be Veep there are always zero percent “not sure”? It’s all one way or all the other…. no “not sure”…

#16 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 3:24 pm

Rodham in Flag You’re funny…I understand what you’re saying. I also know how serious you are also about your contributions. I think some of us just get tired and have to release the tension – I know I do. Just keep doing what you’re doing.

:lol:

#17 murphy on 09.22.08 at 3:25 pm

Billie Jo — reposted from downstairs in case you missed it;

“Billie Jo #314 — I got the EXACT SAME email!! The Obama Movement is trying to make this viral.

This is the response I sent back — TO THE WHOLE LIST!! — and there are some nice people, whom i like, on the list:

“The liberal attacks on Sarah Palin play on the most stereotypical insults of working class and rural white people as trashy, slutty, and dumb.

I dont think it is funny to ridicule a teenage girl with an unplanned pregnancy. I dont think it’s funny to ridicule a father of teenage daughters by implying that he has sex with them, because obviously, heh-heh — that’s what hillbillies do.

Democrats are supposed to be the party of gender equality and progressive values — not of stereotyping, prejudice, bias, and the politics of personal destruction.

Would it be amusing to parody Joe Biden’s supposed alcoholism? Michelle Obama’s supposed dominatrix tendencies?

I’m a Democrat and I’m not enjoying this hogwash one bit.”

I got back a response from the list owner saying, ahem “Each to their own views. I think it is fun to parady all the candidates male or female. Otherwise, we would all go crazy given how important this all is.”

yeah yeah — whatEVER!

Nothing from the rest of the cowards, except this, and I am so glad I sent my email because otherwise maybe this person on the list wouldn’t have sent hers:

“I found the skit extremely insulting, and wish my son had not watched it. Thank you for making your thoughts known.”

see? one action CAN cause a small and good chain reaction!

Forward your email list to me and I’ll respond for you!”

#18 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 3:26 pm

Tweaked the above referenced article a bit so it would be true!
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B. Obama is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the modern United States. As a representative of our political system, he’s a new low in reptilian villainy, the ultimate cynical masterwork of puppeteers like Karl Rove. But more than that, he is a horrifying symbol of how little we ask for in return for the total surrender of our political power. Not only is B. obama a fraud, he’s the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV — and this country is going to eat him up, cheering his every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the base energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.

#19 pooh496 on 09.22.08 at 3:26 pm

My email in action 1

Using sexism and stereotypes to belittle women candidates in this day and age is pitiful. Come out of the dark ages into the light where we can see just what kind of cavemen you are.

#20 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 3:27 pm

1gypsy4mc

Thanks, use the letter all you want. Everytime I post, a new thread goes up and people don’t see my posts, again thank you, glad you read and liked it!

#21 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 3:27 pm

We really need to prowl Congress – as long as they’re sitting on the banking dilemma our gasoline prices are going up. I heard already that Congress is trying to attach earmarks to an extremely grave issue – it makes me sick to my stomach…I guess I’m going to have to fax or email my Congressman – again!!

#22 puma.sf1 on 09.22.08 at 3:28 pm

Man, the woman I talked said very snidely “this is a controversial magazine”. I let her have with both barrels. Thanks, Taggles & Murphy.

#23 Rodham in Flag on 09.22.08 at 3:28 pm

Prowl done -

MURPHY – thought that we were going to do one regarding BO’s salary for women vs men.

#24 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 3:29 pm

#20 michelle47 It’s a very well written protest! I’ve already email Brown and Martin!! :lol: :lol:

#25 mkp651 on 09.22.08 at 3:29 pm

I will do the prowls up top but I for one will not stop there. I want to know where my dimming hero is. How any self respecting women today can allow this bullshit. Having said that I will be emaling Senator Clinton and asking her to make a public statment condeming this kind of action. I hope others will join me. I am so pissed!

#26 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 3:30 pm

About the whole race issue……

Would this even be a discussion if the first black nominee were say…..

Colin Powell
Codoleeza Rice
Clarence Thomas
Or hey even Bill Cosby
I think not.

#27 Rodham in Flag on 09.22.08 at 3:30 pm

Gypsy – I already did my own prowl to all Senators regarding the gasoline prices – this is one of the only ones that everyone responded back with how great they are and what they are going to do about things – deleted them all – and they keep on sending them to me – more and more emails with nothing accomplished.

#28 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 3:30 pm

#343 murphy *****************************

Billie Jo #314 — I got the EXACT SAME email!! The Obama Movement is trying to make this viral.

Prowl please, send us YOUR comments and the reply to all email address and let us send it back in mass. They want to take it viral……….. let’s darn well help them!!!!!

#29 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 3:30 pm

reposted from downstairs

#324 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 2:58 pm

Now this is scary: Pelosi has a shot at being the first female POTUS…….tell me it isn’t so.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7626471.stm
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I posted about the SNL on Fox earlier today. Are we supposed to report in that we’ve have spent the day posting and prowling?

#30 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.22.08 at 3:30 pm

OK, called Rolling Stone but I did not ask for an apology- I do believe in a free press but I expressed my disgust in how this article contributes to the misogyny in the MSM and why so many democrats are not supporting BO.

I could not figure out how to post at the Democratic Underbelly- I must be one of those ignorant dumb white woman.

I read Riverdaughter’s article. And here is what I say to those stupid Obots- just keep it up, keep up your divisive tactics- it is too late anyway for any of us to be swayed to your “logic” but it will continue to feed our stock-pile of “I told you so’s” on November 5th.

#31 webfoot on 09.22.08 at 3:32 pm

A number of Pumas must be making the phone call because the guy that answered the phone when I called immediately said he was transferring me to the correct department. Then I got transferred to a voice mail for Allison. I couldn’t understand what she said her surname was.

Note to Freddie: This type of post is what I will post when I do an action; one I feel might help other Pumas. I do not get on and post about what I am doing. Also, I agree with what Dances said to you in the prior thread.

#32 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 3:35 pm

Good news being reported.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080922/pl_politico/13714

#33 Kempion on 09.22.08 at 3:36 pm

All Obama bin Biden has to do is eat a plate of pork ribs. That will end the debate about his religion.

#34 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 3:36 pm

“All because most Americans no longer have the base energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.”

The freakazoid equates “Americans” with males: “allow ourselves to be jacked off…”

Will do my prowl when I get home from wack (c. kat in your hat).

#35 murphy on 09.22.08 at 3:37 pm

no it wont Kempion.

#36 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 3:38 pm

#9 Rodham in Flag
Idk who you are referring to but, I will spend someimes hours here because aside from business in RT I have a GPT site that needs attending. So I am often working while here. Could be others are as well.

#37 Worker Bee on 09.22.08 at 3:39 pm

Prowled RS, got transferred to Allison whatsherlastname, and left a legnthy growl.

#38 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 3:40 pm

Just read the Democratic Underbelly post.

Ugh, there are several weaknesses in her argument, one point: she speaks of discrimination. Well, what about discrimination against women from within the dem party? Obviously it is highly socially acceptable to belittle women like Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. If such a party is willing to denigrate these women in power, then you KNOW I don’t feel like they would respect everyday women.

#39 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:40 pm

17 murphy LMAO @ Michelle’s ‘Dominatrix tendencies”!!! hahahahahahaha

#40 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 3:41 pm

“Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she’s the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV — and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the base energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.”

Wonder when was the last time they published something like this about Blacks (Oh god! Heavens no!)
Seem the last groups that it is okay to insult and publish hate speech about is women and gays, and gays not so much.

#41 Kempion on 09.22.08 at 3:41 pm

Sure it will. If Obama refuses, then he’s a Muslim. If he eats his fill, then he’s not.

That debate over, we can destroy what little of his credibility remains. :)

#42 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:41 pm

33 Kempion Good call!! Let’s see if he’ll sit down to a plare full o dem baby-back ribs!!!!

#43 zolo on 09.22.08 at 3:42 pm

Just got this in my email:
Friends, Please,

PBS has an online poll that is asking: “Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP?” Right now the majority says that Palin is qualified to be VP. Yikes! Let’s turn this around ASAP.

You don’t have to give your name or email address to vote. It’s simple; a small thing you can do in two clicks.

Vote on this and forward to everyone you know! Please, and fast.

The Right is having people vote — in a concerted effort — that Palin is qualified. Let’s turn this around!

Here’s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

Please go vote. She is ahead in the yes column right now.

#44 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 3:43 pm

Holy Smokes and Gadzooks! I go to bed and wake up and there’ve been like a zillion new threads and a hot bed of discourse about such minor matters as race and sexism in America! Geez. I must have seriously overslept! No way can I go through and read. Just jumping in here, and sorry if this has already been posted:

Latest data on Obama and his pay to his female staffers shows an even greater drop in pay. The latest numbers based on Oct – March show that he now pays his women an average of 78 cents on the dollar, down from 83 cents in the prior cycle. So, he is now only 1 cent above the national average that he moans about in his speeches with equal pay for equal work and gotta improve this 77 cents on the dollar for women. Guess he figures 78 cents is an improvement so he must be off the hook! Sheesh.

#45 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:43 pm

41 Kempion Your take on the AIG meltdown a couple days ago was so awesome and so right on, I not only printed it off to show to people, I also added your feed to my favorites!

#46 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 3:44 pm

40 dances, sometimes i think it’s cause nobody fear us (women).

#47 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:44 pm

hhmmm, but then….I don’t eat pork either, and I’m definitely NOT Muslim!!
Pigs wear lipstick and give you worms.

#48 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 3:45 pm

#25 mkp651
I want to know where my dimming hero is. How any self respecting women today can allow this bullshit. Having said that I will be emaling Senator Clinton and asking her to make a public statment condeming this kind of action. I hope others will join me. I am so pissed!
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No, I will not help you write to Hillary and ask her to speak out against the same people that did this to her. Rub her nose in it why don’t you!
Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!
How about taking that anger and placing it right on the offenders instead of the victim!

#49 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:45 pm

46 Anna7000 They fear the HELL outta Lorena Bobbit!!!!

#50 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 3:45 pm

46 Anna7000

If they dont fear us, they haven’t met enough of us and have never had a convo with my hubby. LOl

#51 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 3:46 pm

Noticed something curious in my neighborhood. I live in Obamaland. But,this year,though I see my fair share of yard signs and bumper stickers,not as much as prior years (though we still have weeks to go before the election). And, I’ve seen some McCain/Palin signs, which is veryunusual for around here. Also, observed that the bumper stickers and yard signs just say Obama. Haven’t noticed Obama/Biden. What’s up with that?

#52 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 3:47 pm

43 zolo Why on earth would we want to do that?

#53 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 3:47 pm

Carical Carrie – How’s your hip feeling today? I hope it’s doing better. And, I hope you’re feeling out from under the haze of pain meds.

#54 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 3:48 pm

#52 Alice1943

I did it just to give my lil teeny blow to the ego of the BO people who will be voting no…even though I personally am not voting rep.

#55 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 3:49 pm

Think it’s be worth it to contact the Women’s Media Center to see if they’re pouncing on these latest sexist attacks on women?

#56 Worker Bee on 09.22.08 at 3:49 pm

mkp651: once i read your statement, i realized that i agree w/ you. but i think hrc did issue such a statement over the weekend, however measured it was.

#57 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 3:50 pm

Anna

Thanks! Way less loopy and Texas told me how to fix my hip so when the hubby gets home and can torture me with Texas’ midevil ways Ill feel all better. Its just appearently out of place.

#58 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 3:50 pm

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#343 murphy…:roll:…:roll:..:roll:…:roll:

Billie Jo #314 — I got the EXACT SAME email!! The Obama Movement is trying to make this viral.

Prowl please, send us YOUR comments and the reply to all email address and let us send it back in mass. They want to take it viral……….. let’s darn well help them!!!!!

#59 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 3:51 pm

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#343 murphy :roll:

Billie Jo #314 — I got the EXACT SAME email!! The Obama Movement is trying to make this viral.

Prowl please, send us YOUR comments and the reply to all email address and let us send it back in mass. They want to take it viral……….. let’s darn well help them!!!!!

#60 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 3:51 pm

Here’s the email I sent to the SON OF A BITCH! I’m very angry here, very very angry!

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ATTN: Matt Taibbi and Editors

Mr. Taibbi,

Your article about Governor Sarah Palin is downright sexist, insulting to all women of this country. I take great offense what you’ve written about her. Governor Palin is the NEW SYMBOL of America’s women, YOU, Mr. Taibbi is the TRUE EPITOME what is wrong with journalists in this country, as you have NO OUNCE OF ETHICS ANYMORE! For people like you, so insecure of yourself you’ve just shown how INEPT you are, how you feel your manhood is threatened by strong women like Governor Palin.

I’m a woman, a feminist, but my kind of feminism is not aligned with Gloria Steinem or Paglia, I belong to a different generation. Governor Sarah Palin is my generation. Men like you come by the truckloads, too stupid to admit to the fact there are more women out there who are not subservient to the male specie. You’re a male chauvinist PIG! You think women would fall all over you and listen to your gutter, no class, totally inept, moronic and downright crass stupidity! If retroactive abortion is legal, you should be aborted, you’re an insult to your own gender, you’re too stupid to see how your opinion about Sarah Palin have angered so many people, not just women but fathers out there raising their daughters. You’ve insulted your own mother!

Mr. Taibbi, by the time you can read women like a book, you’re too old to collect a library!

To Editors of Rollingstone, I always buy your magazine, starting TODAY, I will NEVER spend even a penny with your publication. Many of us will be BOYCOTTING your magazine. WE DEMAND APOLOGY FROM YOUR PUBLICATION! WE DEMAND PUBLIC APOLOGY what Matt Taibbi have said about Governor Palin is UNACCEPTABLE. You’ve drag your OWN REPUTATION to the mud!

Sincerely,
xxxx
PUMA Democrat

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I also called them, the operator told me to calm down, I was screaming, talking about invectives!! I was transferred to a department and left a freaking message and trust me my message wasn’t nice! This is totally OUTRAGEOUS! My nephew subscribe to Rollingstone for me, I ordered him over the phone to cancel his subscription immediately, he knows me too well; he doesn’t want to be on my bad side.

#61 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 3:51 pm

Wow, I just scanned some of the posts at the DU, and so many are still falling for the false idea that we are republicans.

They really are clueless. Which is fine, whatever. They can live in denial–doesn’t matter.

#62 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 3:52 pm

Wow, Asian! Get ‘em, woman.

#63 catsrlove on 09.22.08 at 3:54 pm

#26Michelle47 The only name on your list that has the experience to be President: Colin Powell

I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

Bill Cosby I love him. The Cosby Show was the best comedy ever..

#64 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 3:56 pm

I didn’t really know what to say this time – I just sent “something” to Matt Taibbi

Again, you have shown that the far left liberal enjoys hurting innocent individuals to make a name for yourself. Just to let you know, I think someone has already put your article on the Drudge Report. When you graduate from High School Newspapers, maybe we’ll have a more enlightened educational commentary from you.

God Bless You and May He Save Your Soul

#65 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 3:57 pm

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******* DEFEATING BO *******
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> We need to focus a lot of our efforts on the battleground (swing) states (esp OH, PA, FL, VA, CO, MI, WI, MN, NM, etc)

There are many things we can do, such as…

► Write & send persuasive emails w/links, – Forward good articles, – Email the media (see Action Center for media addresses and Talking Points to include in emails)… also – blog & post comments all over Web.

► Talk to & phone people, – go door-to-door, – distribute flyers (get ‘em in the Action Center), – reach out to key voting blocs (like Latinos, seniors, HRC-voters, women, etc), – work w/groups doing effective “anti-BO” campaigning (including http://www.johnmccain.com/ to get phone lists, donate, etc)

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> See my complete ACTION LIST in the Action Center, under “Landi’s Strategies to Defeat Obama”:
http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

(the home page for Action Center: http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html)
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#66 madazzhel on 09.22.08 at 3:58 pm

Here’s my letter to the editor:

Subject: Matt Tabbi — living in the past

Dear Editor,

I take issue with Matt Taibbi’s description of Governor Sarah Palin in the current issue of Rolling Stone.

That Mr. Taibbi dislikes Governor Palin is obvious however rather than analyze the Governor’s policies and political stances, he resorts to frankly rather adolescent name-calling such as “too dumb for TV” and “full of shit” intermingled with phraseology such as “eat her up” and “be jacked off”.

His article is a diatribe not analysis. It smacks of elitism and sexism. It is rude, disrespectful and ugly.

Governor Palin enjoys a high approval rating in her state including a 75% approval by Democrats.
She is a role model for women interested in pursuing a career in politics regardless of party affiliation.

I suggest the boy’s club starts learning how to deal with capable women. Throwing a hissy fit won’t change the change that is coming though it does make the author and the magazine that publishes him look antiquated, backwards, even neanderthal and ultimately, oh so uncool.

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madazhel

#67 mkp651 on 09.22.08 at 3:58 pm

#48 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 3:45 pm

I’m sorry you don’t agree with me, but I respect that. I for one don’t think this is going to get any better if people don’t start speaking out. Even the one’s who have been subjected to it. I remember in the 70′s I had to give a statement about a fellow employee. He was doing the same thing to other that had been done to me. When I was ask to help out I was more than willing to do so. Did I like talking about it in public hell no. Did his sorry ass finally get fired? Yes !

#68 catsrlove on 09.22.08 at 3:59 pm

#43 zolo What’s the problem?? She IS qualified to be VP.

She is the only one of the four that has executive experience.

#69 Pretjene on 09.22.08 at 4:00 pm

Please get this video out, regardless of your postion on abortion, this is too much!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRpIf2F9NA&feature=related

#70 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:02 pm

@#7

Please folks, submit Palin sexism tips to #7, I know that website is missing stuff.

I don’t even think there is a mention of that Moose/ Dominatrix pic and story on Palin, or Sandra Bernhardt’s tirade, or this Rolling Stone article, or the Canada story (white trash, porn star look, etc)…

I think it’s a good website to help maintain because we can *always* refer to it as *proof* of sexism and misogyny.

It is so important to document these instances. Some brave few did it for Hillary, and it helped to prove our case.

#71 hillstheone on 09.22.08 at 4:02 pm

Wow, can’t wait to go do the RS prowl, I’ll be sure & mention I subscribe & am SICK of this kind of crap!
And I will tell them I only buy it to read the latest in music, & please SPARE ME the continual sexism!!

BBLater!!!

#72 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:03 pm

#66! woohoo!

#73 lilibet on 09.22.08 at 4:06 pm

ASIAN4HILLARY:
I JUST KNEW SOMEONE WOULD SAY ALL THE THINGS I WAS THINKING, BUT ONLY BETTER. But then again, you said something I never could have thought of.(dangling preposition)
“If retroactive abortion would be legal, you should be aborted.” I laughed out loud at that remark, even if it was no laughing matter to you at the moment.

#74 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 4:08 pm

Thank God they are thinking twice about that idiotic bailout!!!

#75 AniEm on 09.22.08 at 4:09 pm

My e-mail to Rolling Stone:

I just read excepts of the Taibbi article on the PUMA website.

Tell me, in addition to assaulting Governor Palin, what are Taibbi’s other hobbies? Watching snuff films? Throwing acid in the faces of women who refuse to date him?

The trash emanating from the media on behalf of Obama is repulsive. Taibbi needs to be muzzled; actually he is inhuman and indecent to the point that dogs are insulted by comparison.

#76 utahpuma on 09.22.08 at 4:09 pm

Here’s the latest on the hacker of Sarah Palin’s email:

“The FBI is stepping up its investigation of a University of Tennessee student — the son of a Democratic state representative — who allegedly hacked into the personal e-mail of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin. David Kernell is the son of Mike Kernell, a Democratic state representative from Memphis. Earlier, Mike Kernell had confirmed that it was his son being identified as the hacker on the web. “

#77 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 4:10 pm

It’s really a damn shame Obama’s mother wasn’t into abortion.

#78 Grizzly on 09.22.08 at 4:10 pm

The publisher of Rolling Stone, Jann Wenner, is in lust with Obama. He has published numerous highly loving articles about The One, and is a big contributor to his campaign. Wenner is also the publisher for US Weekly.

I don’t think Wenner cares much about women. He divorced his wife of 27 years a couple of years back and left her and his kids for a much younger plaything. The other woman, however, was the other man. Wenner and his partner recently adopted and were living a blissful life until he was seen stepping out on his new love, this time with an older man.

Now, he is certainly entitled to live his life as he wants, but his loving articles on Obama compared with his hit pieces on Palin does make one wonder whether he has any respect for women at all.

#79 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 4:11 pm

I just contacted Henry Cuellar’s (Dem Rep) office concerning the debacle with the banking solutions and asked that we get rid of all the stupid earmarks. He needs to start standing up for his state or he won’t be re-elected – bottom line. Am calling Joe Farias next!!!!!!!! I’m tired of all of this!!

:lol:

#80 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 4:11 pm

Oh, that’s for TX!!

#81 Kempion on 09.22.08 at 4:12 pm

#45 Alice1943

Thank you for your kind words. I have added two updates to it since you last read my blog. While I have received plenty of feedback, few actually take the time to register with blogspot to post there.

The scary part, as if the entire thing isn’t scary, is how accurate my caluclations were to the actualy figures. 3/10ths of 1%!

http://kempion.blogspot.com/2008/09/we-joyfully-enslaved.html

Oh, Murphy, he may not like pork but he would take a nibble just to shut up his critics, yes? :D

#82 lizben08 on 09.22.08 at 4:13 pm

Just prowled Matt Taibbi and Rolling Stone. No more!

#83 TerryDo on 09.22.08 at 4:14 pm

77 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 4:10 pm It’s really a damn shame Obama’s mother wasn’t into abortion.
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Or if Obama had his way, she could have had the abortion in her last trimester.

#84 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:15 pm

#76:

I know, and guess who Mike Kernell supports and campaigns for? Obama, of course. You can just imagine that household! Obama zealots, a father inspiring his own son (likely indirectly) to commit a federal offense in the name of Obama.

#85 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 4:17 pm

78 Grizzly What a guy!!! Makes ya wonder about all the other men in positions like his.

#86 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 4:18 pm

84 kat in your hat It’s his campaign manager, but I guess B. Hussein will overlook that one also. He did say though that he would “fire” any of his personnel if he found out they were involved with anything!! Yeah, right!!

#87 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 4:18 pm

Yeya, or even waited until just after he was born.

#88 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:18 pm

Pumas, please check this out:

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/did-you-catch-snl-this-weekend-they-actually-suggested-todd-palin-has-sex-with-his-daughters-a-new-low-in-attacks-on-this-family/

#89 murphy on 09.22.08 at 4:20 pm

Puma PAC is the BEST!

the THIRD Prowl of the day should be hitting your inboxes imminently!

Oh, and thanks zolo, please comment on this PBS poll — the Obama Movement is sending out mass emails asking Democrats to trash woman candidate for being inexperienced even though the Precious is preciously less qualified than she is to be Veep.

Send this link to ALL YOUR EMAIL LISTS!! This is what the OMovement is doing — asking Democrats to laugh at “hillbillies” because the fathers have sex with their teenage daughters as a matter of custom.

here’s the PBS link:

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

#90 TerryDo on 09.22.08 at 4:20 pm

snip –
She appeared to be completely without shame and utterly full of shit, awing a room full of hardened reporters with her sickly-sweet line about the high-school-flame-turned-hubby who “five children later,” is “still my guy.” It was like watching Gidget address the Reichstag
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My email sent to Matt

Mattie, Mattie, shame on you! The only uttering of sh*t is the diarrhea coming from your pathetic misogynist mouth.

What is the matter Mattie, did mommy dearest take you off her breast to early, or perhaps you just never made it to the mother ship?

Get use to it because Sarah Palin will be the next vice President of America. Never ever Obama!

I would bet you are best friends with that other ugly semi-breed Sandra Bernhard who’s rants against Sarah Palin matches her ugly soul.

And I will wager no one in this world would ever refer to you as First Dude.

#91 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:21 pm

#86: What? I didn’t know he is O’s campaign manager…

hmm..

I think the republicans should take off their gloves, and get dirty. I don’t even care anymore. Let them put out shocking fear-mongering ads, whatever.

I am so fed up with the O camp tactics and how they get away with it all.

#92 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.22.08 at 4:23 pm

Interesting thought I had while reading through the down-stairs post-

How is it the same people who deny sexism in the media and who say Hillary didn’t loose (and we all know we didn’t loose but I’m not going to preach to the choir here) because of sexism- these are the same people who will now blame racism if Obama loses??? WTF???

Did anyone catch Bill on the view this morning? I thought he was great, he reiterated how BO outspent Hillary and how Hillary did win the popular vote- I also thought his “support” for BO was lukewarm at best. And Joy Behar w/ her inflated lips sat w/ that pout on her face while Bill was talking about the primary season, I felt like slapping her. I never watch that show but had seen someone’s post about Bill being on, glad I caught it- very inspiring to say the least. He had a lot of good things to say about McCain too and why some women will not vote for BO.

We are making a difference. We are the ones no one was expecting! GO PUMAPAC!

#93 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 4:23 pm

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*** URGENT *** ACTION NOW!!! ***
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:arrow: We need PHONE LISTS to call people in battleground swing states, esp. of undecided Dems…

– How do we get them?
– How can we get set up for making phone calls?
– We need to come up with good “SCRIPTS” to guide us when we call others !!

+++++++++++++++++++

:!: The BO campaign is sending volunteers to NV (from CA)…

– Maybe some of us in CA can carpool over there… esp to hit their large Latino population !

– PUMAs in around other swing-states:
- Let’s organize to go DOOR TO DOOR!

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#94 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 4:24 pm

Hi all,
Here is the e-mail I’m sending to ??? Is this going to Rolling Stone magazine? That’s where I’d like to send it.

Also, I sent the article to The New Agenda at ReportSexism@yahoo.com. -Lara08

Re: Matt Taibbi’s article

Matt Taibbi’s article is pure unadulterated trash. If Sarah Palin is a “symbol of everything that is wrong with the modern United States” then Rolling Stone truly epitomizes the demise of print journalism. You have sunk to new lows by printing this so-called article. Your attacks on women are despicable and simply show your lack of political astuteness. These type of hate-filled articles simply strengthen my resolve never to vote for Barack Obama. I may never vote for another Democrat again. Nice work Rolling Stone magazine. If you keep printing such biased misogynistic political essays you may single-handedly cost Obama the election.

#95 ontherocks on 09.22.08 at 4:26 pm

Prowl done
I called Rolling Stone and they transferred me to some voice mail for a lady named Victoria. I left a message. I tried to be nice, but the more I said the more angry I got. LOL
*********************************************
Post #88: This crap has gone to far. These crazy people will stop at nothing to trash a woman. Very sad.

#96 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 4:28 pm

Thank you for this link, thought it was good enough to post here and on Drudge and many other places.

#88 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:18 pm

Pumas, please check this out:

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/did-you-catch-snl-this-weekend-they-actually-suggested-todd-palin-has-sex-with-his-daughters-a-new-low-in-attacks-on-this-family/

NBC, under Jeff Zucker, has stooped to a new low.

This weekend’s Saturday Night Live actually ran a skit based around the suggestion that Todd Palin has sex with his daughters — because “there’s nothing else to do in Alaska”.

Each day, it’s getting increasingly more evident the Democratic Party has split permanently in two — with the radical, leftist wing swinging hard at Sarah Palin in the ugliest, most vile ways possible. The other half of the party, the Centrists, moderates, and conservative Democrats, are appalled by what the Democrats now stand for under SoetorObama – which seems to be nothing more than hate, sexism, and misogyny at this point.

Todd Palin having sex with his daughters?

Why is that appropriate for Saturday Night Live to air — when we can’t imagine them doing the same joke about Michelle Obama having sex with Sasha and Malia, or Jill Biden sleeping with Beau or Hunter Biden.

Why does SoetorObama cheerleader NBC think it’s funny to suggest the spouse of a Republican candidate for office engages in incest, when it would never be acceptable for a show like Saturday Night Live to run the same sketch about Michelle Obama or Jill Biden committing the same statutory rape or child abuse?

Someone needs to take Jeff Zucker to task for this…the NBC brand, during this election, has been permanently tarnished – we think beyond repair.

And you know full well what we think of the Democratic Party’s own brand under Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and SoetorObama himself.

There are 43 more days to go before the election — we don’t know how much lower SoetorObama’s supporters can stoop, but we think this incest business is about as low as anyone can get before a huge public backlash begins.

And we think it needs to start against Jeff Zucker at NBC.

PRONTO.

How do we make this happen? Please comment with your ideas, beginning with how best to reach Zucker to draw his attention to what SNL is up to.

#97 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 4:28 pm

Hi Murphy and everyone else,
Is this Rolling Stone’s e-mail or who am I writing by using this e-mail: rgscustserv@cdsfulfillment.com?

#98 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:29 pm

More sick sexism and hate brought to you by the democrats (horrible hatred from Bill Maher)

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/more-sick-sexism-and-hate-brought-to-you-by-the-democrats/

#99 ontherocks on 09.22.08 at 4:30 pm

# 93
You could always sign up to make calls for BO, then use the numbers to try and get the truth out there about him. Use his call list against him.

#100 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 4:31 pm

Hi all,
Please also forward your incidents of sexism to NOW (let’s see what they do!) and ReportSexism@ yahoo.com (The New Agenda’s website asked that people send info there).

#101 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 4:32 pm

This country has become the world’s biggest Nut House without walls, whose patients are happy to be here.

#102 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 4:34 pm

I couldn’t get a post through on the DU sooooo – I wrote Niki 9sp) a personal e-mail . She posted her addy , so I just told her why I can’t vote for BO … Stay tuned to see if she responds … Yes , I sent a link to Puma :)

#103 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 4:34 pm

93 LandiPUMA

Compose an action to include Nevadans and Northern, or all Californians for actions in Nevada, and send to southwest@pumapac.org to send as a “broadcast”, if Murphy approves of your notice.

It’d be great to have a meet-up, partner with Pumas in Nevada, and go at it.

#104 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 4:35 pm

I am going to forward Murphy’s prowl to The Women’s Media Center and ask them what they’re doing to speak out about this treatment of Palin. (My guess is that they have a political bias that results in more, or less, action depending upon WHICH woman is being attacked, even though they don’t come out and say they have this bias. I want to put them on the hot seat (not that I plan to be confrontational…I’ll start out completely professional and innocent, since I don’t, indeed, know how they’ve responded) and see what they say and then take things from there. Anyone else interested, here’s the contact info:

The Women’s Media Center Home Page:
http://www.womensmediacenter.com/index.html

The Women’s Media Center Contact Us Page:
http://www.womensmediacenter.com/contact.html

#105 tennaseepuma on 09.22.08 at 4:35 pm

I called Rolling Stone and asked to speak To the editor,They transferred me to someones voice mail named Natale ,did not catch last name but I did leave am earful.

#106 puma.sf1 on 09.22.08 at 4:36 pm

What? I make one post and I’m banned?

ERROR: Your posting privileges have been revoked. If you do not know why this has happened, please take a moment to read our Message Board Rules.

What’s with the Democratic Underbelly?

#107 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 4:36 pm

Landi – what if we signed up to make phone calls for Obama and then when we get the phone list we call the people and tell them not to vote for him ??? :twisted:

#108 puma.sf1 on 09.22.08 at 4:36 pm

Hey Dances.

Did you get my email the other day?

#109 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 4:37 pm

92 gosue4hill – exactly! i often write media letters making that very point (including their apparent lack of concern about anti-semitism as well re: obama’s church).

#110 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:38 pm

MIKE KERNELL
D – Memphis
District 93 – Part of Shelby County
University of Memphis area
and part of zip codes 38111, 38114, 38117,
and 38119 in Southeast Memphis

District Address
3583 Allandale Lane
Memphis, TN 38111-5601
Phone (901) 454-1113

Nashville Address
38 Legislative Plaza
Nashville, TN 37243-0193
Phone (615) 741-3726
Fax (615) 253-0320
Staff Contact: Kyle Faulkner

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/soetorobama-supporter-mike-kernell-d-tn-confirms-his-son-david-kernell-hacked-sarah-palins-email-to-help-soetorobama/

#111 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 4:39 pm

94 lara – what is that about? is it only to report sexism on yahoo articles, or sexism in the media in general? i’m very interested.

#112 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:39 pm

#107, Yes, that is fairly brilliant. lol. I used to suspect Obama supporters were doing that against Hillary.

#113 LilyMaid on 09.22.08 at 4:40 pm

I took this MatchoMatic quiz…since I am a Democrat I think you can guess the outcome…but HE does not get my vote. The guiz adds cuteness with it’s pop-ups.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/MatchoMatic/fullpage?id=5542139

#114 zolo on 09.22.08 at 4:42 pm

Sorry for the confusion, looks like what I posted was from me. My posting should have been quoted and is what I got from a client who never sends me political email. A lot of them just assume that since I am so liberal that I am voting for OB, which I am not. I hope all of you go vote in the PBS poll.

#115 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 4:43 pm

SARAH IS BEING SMEARED through mass-forwarded viral emails!

This smear campaign could be helping BO inch up in the polls! My wife and I have been receiving Viral Emails and forwarded articles with negative false allegations against Sarah (and McCain). These anti-Palin/McCain emails have been circulating and spreading widely!

I try to reply back correcting the smears. There is a Website which lists many of the allegations and rumors spreading about Sarah and tells you what’s true or false:

http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

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!!!!!! These BO fanatics seem to very good at creating and spreading Viral Emails… Why don’t we do the same thing?!… We need to circulate anti-BO Viral Emails!, but not w/falsehoods like theirs, but with good, incriminating facts. !!!!!
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#116 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 4:44 pm

96 Billie Jo – You are so right on. F***! My head is spinning. This feels like a tidal wave that just gets bigger and bigger and just never ends.

#117 Patty on 09.22.08 at 4:44 pm

I just went to my email account to do the Prowl and found
an email from Hillpac. They want Hillary supporters to go door to door for Obama and tell people “Hillary sent me”

#118 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 4:45 pm

#237 LandiPuma
******- HELP! – HELP! – HELP! *****
SARAH IS BEING VICIOUSLY SMEARED wide and far (through Viral Emails, etc) !!!

237 LandiPuma

I too have received these emails. I usually hit “respond to all” so that everyone on the huge mailing address gets my message — which goes something like this: “when you are sending emails intended to sully the name of a candidate, you might want to check snopes.com, or factorg.com (not that I think they aren’t in the tank), PalinRumors, to determine the veracity of the *facts* as set forward in your email. I include the link which includes the “truth.”
I really think our efforts should be focused on “truth” viral emails as well. Time is of the essence. I have no clue what our numbers are, but we all know a lot of people, who know a lot of people, etc.

————————————-

YES! Some of the people sending me ANTI-Palin/McCain viral emails mass send them to hundreds, and all the addresses are often in the “Send” field. By hitting “Reply All” you can send back something to everyone.

Again, one site that clears up the Palin rumors:
http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

#119 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:45 pm

Who has the details of early voting?

States are voting for president right NOW.

#120 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 4:45 pm

The New Agenda’s address: http://thenewagenda.net/

#121 mimi1020 on 09.22.08 at 4:45 pm

#115 LandiPUMA

yes, yes, yeeeeessssss – But how

#122 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 4:45 pm

Dems Threaten Anti-Iran Rally Organizers With IRS Attack if They Let Palin Speak
By Warner Todd Huston | September 21, 2008 – 02:06

News has emerged that the organizers of that anti-Iran rally that famously got snarled up in Senator Hillary Clinton’s ire at Governor Sarah Palin last week were threatened by New York Democrats with IRS action against their tax-exempt status if they allowed Palin to speak. CBS local NY news reported this little fact and so did NBC but most of the national news has ignored this outrageous threat to use the IRS to silence Governor Palin.

Accusing New York Democrats of using “McCarthyism” to shut Palin down, Democrat Assemblyman Dov Hikind was flabbergasted by the behind the scenes threats against the rally organizers. “It’s an absolute shame that this has happened,” CBS quoted Hikind as saying. “To threaten organizations … to threaten the Conference of Presidents that if you don’t withdraw the invitation to Gov. Palin we’re going to look into your tax exempt status … that’s McCarthyism.”

#123 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 4:46 pm

#117 “Hillary sent me to tell you not to vote for BO.”

#124 Patty on 09.22.08 at 4:46 pm

Here is my response,

No way! Sorry, I worked my a** off for Hillary. I went door to door in the rain, charged campaign contributions to my credit card all the while Barack Obama sat by quietly while the main stream media used sexism as a tool against her.
All he could say is “She is likable… enough” and I’m sure I can get her voters, not so sure she can get mine.
And his lovely wife touts on a stage
“If you can’t run your own house you sure can’t run the White house”
Now you want me to go door to door for Obama and tell people Hillary sent me. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
If I go door to door I’m gonna tellem’
PUMA SENT ME!

#125 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 4:46 pm

these DNC scoundrels have to be stopped!!!

#126 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 4:47 pm

In 118, I left out the person’s name that I was replying to:
Missy on 09.21.08 at 4:13 pm WROTE (yesterday in reply to my email):

#237 LandiPuma
******- HELP! – HELP! – HELP! *****
SARAH IS BEING VICIOUSLY SMEARED wide and far (through Viral Emails, etc) !!!

237 LandiPuma

I too have received these emails.

#127 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.22.08 at 4:48 pm

#104 Anna 7000-

Darn Anna! You beat me to the punch- I just sent them an e-mail & was getting ready to post their address-

Please everyone- write to them re: the RS article:

http://www.womensmediacenter.com/index.html

#128 murphy on 09.22.08 at 4:51 pm

landipuma — yess!!! also, see ontherocks comment about a veddy veddy sneaky way to get phone lists.

hint, hint.

IF ANYONE READING OUT THERE HAS ACCESS TO DEM VOTING LISTS IN SWING STATES, OUR MAILING ADDRESS IS PO BOX 556 CARLISLE MA 01741.

OUR EMAIL ADDRESS IS murphy@pumapac.org

just sayin.

#129 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 4:53 pm

I’m not that great on the phone. Does anyone have a contact e-mail for Rolling Stone? Thanks.

#130 slyt2 on 09.22.08 at 4:53 pm

#20 michelle47 where’s this great letter I missed it :(

#131 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 4:54 pm

I can’t help but think they are purposely baiting us so all our time is trying to dispell and counteract the sexism in these articles, Which we do need to act on. But don’t forget, these obots are tech savy…and they know what will draw us in, We need to concentrate also on issues… I am by no means saying let it go by, so don’t go mis understanding me. I just remember this happening at the end of the primary season to Hillary as well. We cannot take our focus off of our goal which is NO OBAMA. I think if we reply to the prowls, send to media etc…then move back to our focus. Don’t let them take us off our goals.

I am wondering if someone called the obambi hq and said they dont have a computer but would like to make calls, if they could mail a list of dems in key states. Might be a way to get a list. Otherwise, you would have to sign up on his website.

#132 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 4:56 pm

OMG. Is this true?

Penny Pritzker is holding a reception For Ahmadinejad at the grand Hyatt? (He is in NYC today)

Every puma should know who Penny Pritzker is in relation to Obama. She is the Hyatt heiress, one who owes the gov. nearly half a billion dollars due to her bank closing, in part stirring the banking failure domino effect, and she is Obama’s national campaign finance chairperson.

Penny Pritzker:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/22/revealed-obama-finance-chairwoman-pritzker-the-toxic-catalyst-of-the-current-financial-crisis/

Scroll down for Penny:
http://www.barackbook.com/Friends.htm

#133 bobram on 09.22.08 at 4:58 pm

DANCES WITH PUMAS – all the completed TV Stations are now at the action center – done – now
1GYPSY I will work on the bullet points on what to say to these TV Stations that are on a local level -
One thing that I did get out of this project – I now know from reading the links how each State is looking towards the Presidential Election – we really do need to get some action on those swing states – and even if you just send your comments – almost ALL of them have blogs that you can type your message and other each political caption you can do the same – so I am taking one State at a time and writing three or more comments to inflitrate each TV station and will be looking up for each newspaper in the meantime – hopefully I can count on other pumas to help out as well.

Gypsy on to your project now..

#134 ontherocks on 09.22.08 at 4:59 pm

Contact info for Rolling stones:

Rolling Stone Magazine
1290 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10104 – 0298
(212) 484-1616

letters@rollingstone.com

#135 Patty on 09.22.08 at 4:59 pm

When I made calls for Hillary you just dail a number and then that would generate the calls for you. So maybe we need to sip a little koolaid and make our way to the *61 head quarters see if they have a number you can call.
Or better yet talk to an Obot on facebook and tell them…
Well I really really want to make calls for *61 but gas is sooo expensive, hmm I wish there was a way I could do it from home.:evil:

#136 heysandy on 09.22.08 at 5:00 pm

#51 Anna7000

All signs in this area and surrounding communities say “Obama” only, as well.

Doesn’t surprise me in the least.

#137 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:00 pm

kat.. you can bet the media will lay off that one and spin it as an example of “peaceful statesmanship” on the behalf of obama..
what can we do.. ?were almost helpless against the main stream media..they control the media they can win this election for obama..

#138 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 5:00 pm

“Obama Staff Leaves North Dakota: Guess He Isn’t Rewriting That Electoral Map, Is He?”

“It is ironic, however, that one of the reasons the DNC was so anxious to nominate Senator Obama, aside from his deep, deep pockets, is that they were so sure those “Obamicans” would reshape the electoral map and turn classically red states blue this year.

Well, not so much…”

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/22/obama-staff-leaves-north-dakota-guess-he-isn%e2%80%99t-rewriting-that-electoral-map-is-he/

Bwahahah!

#139 LilyMaid on 09.22.08 at 5:00 pm

Seems to me that Matt brainstormed his pea brain to find the filthiest adjectives and nastiest descriptive phrases to make the point that he himself exemplifies all that is nasty and filthy.

#140 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:01 pm

118 LandiPUMA – Thanks so much for posting that link. Got it book marked. Great resource!

#141 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 5:01 pm

#131
Perhaps. The more dumbass things they say about Palin, the more the Republican base and women are fired up. That’s not very smart. The more they call us racists, the more determined I am not to vote for BO. Bullies keep bullying because they think they can intimidate. Maybe the Republicans are doing this?! It doesn’t seem very smart on the Dems part.

#142 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 5:02 pm

#134 Thanks!

#143 mesofreee on 09.22.08 at 5:03 pm

Here’s what I wrote:

What has happened to Rolling Stone?

Why are you allowing yourselves to become the mouthpiece for sexism?

You consider yourselves to be a progressive news outlet, is this what progressivism has become?

Flay women using sexist stereotypes?

Why is there no political discourse?

Why is your only attack on Palin filled with vile name calling, and sexist villainy and oppression?

I can only assume you are of the Democratic Party because you are so obviously filled with hatred for Palin. I certainly cannot assume you are Democrats based on your behavior, or how you uphold long held Democratic standards such as equality for women, human rights, or even intelligence.

For a giggle – there is a picture over at HCF of what the Palin/Biden debates will look like:

http://www.overthebrandywine.com//McCainPalin/PalinTakesCareOfBiden.jpg

#144 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 5:04 pm

#137: I don’t know. The McCain camp can keep calling out liberal media outlets like NYT and MSNBC, but then it could also hurt them. But, I think it doesn’t matter what the McCain camp says because these groups will be unfair no matter what.

Maybe the McCain camp should issue a sound statement to America, or McCain and Palin should mention in every stump speech that the liberal media (which is the majority of the media) is in the tank for Obama, and to always keep that in mind.

It will get out to anti-McCain’s that there are being fed Obama-news, and even if they don’t care, at least it might flicker in their brain that they are getting duped on some level.

#145 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:04 pm

EVERYONE -

Don’t forget – If you have a great link that’s not already in the Action Center, send it on so it can be included there!

#146 ontherocks on 09.22.08 at 5:04 pm

I am signing up at his site (YUCK) right now. Hopefully they will a phone bank list.

#147 atypical on 09.22.08 at 5:05 pm

#7 Kat in Hat
Why don’t we just send them the comments section from the democratic undrground,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×7141749#7141877

Those are some of the vilest comments I have ever read . I did not even try to add my voice to that sorry
mess. Who knows what they would have done if they had my IP (and any of the PUMAs, for that matter.) ?

#148 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:05 pm

i just ordered my son to cancel his sub of rolling stone.. i will not have that rag laying on my cofee table!!

#149 gordana on 09.22.08 at 5:05 pm

#76

Do we know if this e-mail hacker was being paid and/or if he’s on someone’s payroll????? I would love to know!!!

Thanks -

#150 slyt2 on 09.22.08 at 5:05 pm

Got this back (so far)
Rolling Stone Magazine
to me

show details 5:00 PM (2 minutes ago)

Reply

We have received your correspondence and it is being sent to a customer
service representative for proper handling. If additional information is
required regarding your inquiry, the representative will contact you
directly. Please do not respond to this e-mail. Thank you.

#151 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:06 pm

Gosue4hill – BTW, you’ve got mail!

#152 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:06 pm

Gosue4hill – BTW, you’ve got mail!

#153 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:07 pm

everybody call rolling stone and if you have a sub cancel it and tell them why

#154 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:07 pm

This is the e-mail i have been sending out in response to the proXo e-mails I receive :

This is the Obama the media doesn’t want you to know about …

In Texas alone there were more than 2,000 complaints filed regarding caucus fraud . Obama hired Acorn thugs to criminally disrupt caucuses and violate State and Federal laws all across Texas and the other caucus States .

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/04/texas-caucus-fraud/

http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

Obama gave this group over $800,000.00 during the primaries and now has them setting up in Ohio , Michigan , Fla. Co. And TX !! http://www.rottenacorn.com/

And watch the videos on this site : http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

During his trip to Iraq , Obama attempted to subvert ongoing negotiations with the Iraqi Government and the current Administration and generals on the ground by asking Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari to delay any Troop withdrawal until AFTER the elections !!!!

Not only would this keep our Troops in harms way longer than necessary , this is a direct violation of the Logan Act which states , ”

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. ”

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

Further , there has been a lawsuit filed in Pa. By the Frmr. Pa . Deputy. Atty. General charging that Obama is not qualified to run for POTUS under the Constitution . This case was found to have merit and was NOT dismissed ! http://www.obamacrimes.com/

As a life long Democrat , I understand the importance of our maintaining control of the Congress during this critical juncture in our history , but as an American , I REFUSE to support a criminal simply because my party wishes it .

#155 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:07 pm

slyt2′s post reminded me – in general, when e-mailing, or calling, for that matter, businesses, the e-mail typically goes through some automated channel, just as when you call into a main number, you get first line workers. i think it’s always best to contact the person highest up in the org as possible: pres, ceo, etc.

#156 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:09 pm

shit – I hate being in moderation …

#157 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:09 pm

if you have cable..call your local cable company and register your complaint..tell them you are considering cancelling your cable tv and will get the dish if they do not request from msnbc,cnn ,nbc,cbs abc, that they refrain from such unbiased reporting

#158 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:10 pm

How many links puts you into moderation ?

#159 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 5:11 pm

I just got this ni the mail.

> Another reason not to watch channel 12, ABC.

> ABC News Bans Flag Lapel Pins
> Yesterday, the brass at ABC News issued orders forbidding reporters to wear lapel pin American flags or other patriotic insignia. Their reasoning was that ABC should remain neutral about ’causes’.
> Since when is support for preventing our death & destruction some sort of a “cause”? Since when is patriotism to be discouraged. I urge you to boycott ABC and its sponsors and affiliates.
> We’re slowly losing everything our country stands for, and everything our men and women fought and died to preserve.
> Please forward this to as many as you can. You can verify it by going to:
> http://www.snopes.com/rumors/noflags.asp
>
> This one needs to get out if it hasn’t already…

#160 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:12 pm

the DNC is out of control folks.. we have to put some hurt on them to stop their craziness

#161 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:12 pm

Snow – what do the initials ABC stand for ???? hmmmm

#162 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 5:13 pm

#147 atypical:

I know, I don’t even recognize these people as democrats. I must be old school (skool), because I never knew how nasty the democrats could be. I never knew how truly and horribly biased the liberal media was. I just thought it was…media.

So, I recognize that there is a definite split in the party. I do NOT like many Obama-democrats, I think they are villains. No kidding. Such a shame.

#163 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 5:13 pm

All Bo Channel I believe Texas.

#164 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:13 pm

they might as well change the letters msobc, obc,cbonn,cbo,abo

#165 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 5:14 pm

LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 4:23 pm

****************************
*** URGENT *** ACTION NOW!!! ***
****************************

:arrow: We need PHONE LISTS to call people in battleground swing states, esp. of undecided Dems…

– How do we get them?
– How can we get set up for making phone calls?
– We need to come up with good “SCRIPTS” to guide us when we call others !!

+++++++++++++++++++

:!: The BO campaign is sending volunteers to NV (from CA)…

– Maybe some of us in CA can carpool over there… esp to hit their large Latino population !

– PUMAs in around other swing-states:
– Let’s organize to go DOOR TO DOOR!

——————

Goandersen, Greenfun and I are taking a road trip to Nevada next month to do just that. Maybe we can meet up and have a PUMA ROAR there. I am printin’ flyers and found some caucus stuff over at Dr. Longs website about Nevada. Here is the link:

http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/nevada.html

#166 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:16 pm

billi joe.. try the nevada yellow pages reverse street directory ..they have numbers up the ying yang

#167 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.22.08 at 5:17 pm

#151 & 152- Anna-
got it, have the time blocked out for tomorrow morning, will e-mail you back sometime tomorrow, late AM

#168 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 5:17 pm

McCain is getting the media being in the tank for the PovertyPimp, attacks the New York Times.

Thank God they are starting to corner the little rat and the media too.
Whoooooohooo!!!!!!!!!!

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McCain campaign savages New York Times
Sep 22 04:04 PM US/Eastern

Write a Comment

A New York Times paper rack. John McCain’s White House campa…

John McCain’s White House campaign Monday lashed out at the media and declared the venerable New York Times was “150 percent” behind Democratic hopeful Barack Obama.

McCain senior strategist Steve Schmidt rebuked journalists he said had failed in their duty to submit Obama to intense scrutiny and accused news organizations of hounding McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin.

“Whatever the New York Times once was, it is today not by any standard a journalistic organization,” said Schmidt on a conference call with reporters.

“It is a pro-Obama advocacy organization that every day attacks the McCain campaign, attacks Senator McCain, attacks Governor Palin, and excuses Senator Obama.

“This is an organization that is completely, totally, 150 percent in the tank for the Democratic candidate, which is their prerogative to be, but let’s not be dishonest and call it something other than what it is.”

“It is an organization that has made a decision to cast aside its journalistic integrity and tradition to advocate for the defeat of one candidate — in this case, John McCain.”

The McCain campaign complaints were reminiscent of comments by the campaign of former Democratic hopeful Hillary Clinton, which claimed the media was giving Obama an easy ride and not properly “vetting” his candidacy.

Schmidt’s outburst came in specific response to a question about a story in Monday’s paper which said McCain campaign manager Rick Davis had lobbied for 30,000 dollars a month for five years to defend mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The two firms were taken under government control earlier this month in the early stages of the economic crisis which has consumed Wall Street and transformed the presidential campaign.

Davis said on the conference call he had been on leave of absence from his company for 18 months, and had not done any lobbying work in the area for up to a year-and-a-half before that.

The McCain campaign also defended Palin over her lack of contact with journalists, saying she had spoken to ABC News and Fox News and would soon do an interview with CBS.

“If anybody ever asked us to make a choice between seeing 60,000 people at a rally … or spending an hour with a reporter, I don’t imagine that we’d have many questions as to what we’d rather do,” said Davis.

Anger at the media was not just confined to the ranks of McCain’s campaign braintrust on Monday.

At a rally Scranton, Pennsylvania, one woman stood up in the question-and-answer period, and berated journalists, pointed a journalists and accused them of exploiting the pregnancy of Palin’s unwed teenaged daughter.

“They need to start doing their job and stop picking on little children because of their age and their pregnancies, shame on you,” she shouted, provoking delighted cheers at the rally among the mainly Irish American audience.

The Obama campaign mocked Schmidt’s comments as a “laughable screed” and sent journalists a list of 40 “probing” stories the paper had written on the Illinois Senator.

Spokesman Bill Burton said the Times had not done any stories on McCain’s role in a 1980s Savings and Loans scandal when he was accused of improperly helping a financier counter regulators.

McCain was cleared of corruption in the “Keating Five” case but accused of showing poor judgement. He overcame association with the scandal by throwing himself into the reform of campaign finance laws.

The New York Times is regarded by some observers in America as a paragon of journalistic standards which keeps its news reporting and opinion comment strictly separate.

But it is reviled by conservatives who rail against the perceived liberal bias of the mainstream media.

#169 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:17 pm

billi joe..one other thing…it would be helpful if you had someone who speaks spanish

#170 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 5:18 pm

GETTING PHONE LISTS TO CALL :

#107 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 4:36 pm
Landi – what if we signed up to make phone calls for Obama and then when we get the phone list we call the people and tell them not to vote for him ???
*********************************

If anyone is interested, you can sign up (don’t use your info) and get a list of people that Obama wants you to call. This is from their Neighbor to Neighbor project.
Once you get this list, you can either choose to NOT call (therefore tying up their list) or call and them them not to elect NoBama. I have signed up many times to get the list…

Use this link and go to the sign up. The list will appear on your screen right away so you can copy and paste to call or just ignore it.

http://my.barackobama.com/modules/votercontact/login_signup.php

#171 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:18 pm

bille joe..
“Thank God they are starting to corner the little rat and the media too.
Whoooooohooo!!!!!!!!!!”

:smile:

#172 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:19 pm

164 – This is the sort of thing that, ideally, requires numbers and coordindation. Would be so great if some of the really credible grassroots orgs could collaborate on this.

#173 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:19 pm

164 – This is the sort of thing that, ideally, requires numbers and coordindation. Would be so great if some of the really credible grassroots orgs could collaborate on this.

#174 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 5:21 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

PUMAs you have mail!
Yet another action for you today.

Now get to work and get your claws sharpened for the job ahead of you.

Mama

#175 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 5:22 pm

by the way
PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

PUMAs you have mail!
Yet another action for you today.

This prowl is late so for some of you you will have work waiting for you in the morning.

That is a nice way to start the day.

Mama

Mama

#176 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 5:23 pm

133 bobram Thank you. and Laurey wants to help – she wants to do a comparison of BHO to McCain.

:lol:

#177 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 5:23 pm

Mama

Mama

I wonder why I need to sign twice. I will have to ask Gypsy and Texas. Don’t tell Dances she will say it is a senior moment.

#178 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:24 pm

any good puma speakers in the bay area?
i think we can get a PUMA on for at least a half hour interview on KSFO brian sussman show..ksfo has a huge listernership surpassing radio titan kgo in the mornings

#179 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 5:24 pm

This is a great post I picked up from Jews against Obama.
Could anyone help in verifying the statements? After we verify we can put it in the action center,
***********************************************
rom atlasshrugs2000@typepad.com

Obama’s Mythical Intelligence

Much has been written about Obama’s “mythical intelligence” by a media completely in the tank for the boy blunder. His intelligence is , in fact, a myth. Atlas reader Carolyn wrote an excellent piece peeling back the layers of the mendacious narrative to uncover what a lightweight the Soros stooge really is. She describes the unmeritorious means Obama used to achieve his goals – particularly President of the Law Review. When I was in Washington yesterday we were discussing this little mentioned truth – Obama’s year as President produced little worthwhile or significant. Obama’s year is the least cited review. He produced nothing of import.

The smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ Carolyn

Obama’s much vaunted intelligence is in reality nothing but smoke and mirrors.

As nearly everyone has noted lately, Obama’s grasp on facts is being revealed as tenuous at best and embarrassing at worst, as evidenced by his recent gaffe about his uncle having ‘liberated’ Auschwitz when in fact NO American soldier did anything of the kind (in fact – as the quickest glance at a history book will tell you, no American soldier ever set foot in Poland where Auschwitz is located). Now, this kind of lapse could be excused as a typical political mistake, etc. – but in Obama’s case, that excuse can’t be used. It’s not just because this type of typical ‘political’ mistake is what Obama has sworn he’s not – i.e., a typical politician – more to the point, this silly mistake reveals Obama’s ignorance of the bare minimum of historical fact. And such ignorance shakes the very foundation of Obama’s chief qualification for being President – i.e., Obama’s vaunted intelligence. Since everyone acknowledges he lacks experience for the job, the only reason left to support Obama’s claim to the position is because of his intelligence.

Constant references have been given as to Obama’s near-mythical intelligence – and over and over again, every one claims that the ‘proof’ of that intelligence is the fact that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. And that is a staggering achievement. Only the best and the brightest achieve that – only a student at the top of the grade scale, only a student of outstanding writing skills and superb legal acumen is accorded that honor. It is such a high honor that this accomplishment follows that student through to the rest of his life – it is mentioned in his vitae, his honors, indeed in his very obituary as the incontestable proof of his intelligence. Therefore, it is understandable that all doubts of Obama’s intelligence are instantly assuaged by revealing he was President of the Harvard Law Review.

Assuaged, that is, until one looks a bit closer.

To begin with, the NY Times 1990 article on Obama being elected President of the Harvard Law Review casts the first troubling clues that all is not what it appears to be.

“Until the 1970’s the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.

That system came under attack in the 1970’s and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.”

There is the Achilles heel. The former high standards which all previous Presidents of the Harvard Law Review had been forced to meet – grades, papers, etc.- no longer existed by the time Obama was elected. Instead, the post was selected on something different than grades, papers, etc. It was selected on race. Obama was the ‘right’ race. He was black. Now of course, that doesn’t mean Obama did NOT have intelligence – but what it makes clear is that by the time he was elected, Presidency of the Review no longer proved he DID. Indeed, at the very moment of his election, the proof of his intelligence was so missing that his predecessor at the job refused to confirm it. Of course, the predecessor trode very cautiously and carefully in his statement issued after Obama had just been elected – but the meaning was clear.:

“Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama’s election ”was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.”

Mr. Yu’s words are ominous – ‘others may read something into it.” Clearly, Mr. Yu clearly can’t say he’s one of those ‘others’ recognizing ‘merits’ to instead mean ‘race’. After all, Yu sees which way the PC winds are blowing and he certainly doesn’t want them howling in his face by saying Obama got his post for something other than his intelligence. At the same time, however, Yu’s unease at the choice of Obama is telling for what Yu does not say, as for what he does. For instance, Yu does not cite Obama’s grades nor does Yu cite Obama’s legal writings. Yu says nothing about them at all – and the silence is deafening.

Reading the NY Times further reveals other telltale signs that Obama did not possess the intelligence for that position. As with Mr. Yu’s painfully parsed statement, the signs are noticeable more for what they do not say, than for what they do.

We begin with a brief explanation of the legal world Obama claims to belong to by reason of his intelligence. That world is defined by 3 inescapable proofs of such intelligence. They are: (1) high grades, (2) prestigious organizations (i.e, the Law Review) and (3) clerkship with a judge.

We will begin with the first and most obvious sign of intelligence – grades.

Obama doesn’t have them. Oh, he’s given the aura of possessing them – but when one looks closely at that aura, it disappears like smoke before your eyes. For instance, not once has anyone, ever, at any time, produced those grades. In no publication, either Obama’s or anyone else’s, has any cite been made of that average – was it a 4.0? (Straight A’s?) Was it even higher – 4.3? (A+) (And today’s high school seniors are graduating with 5.0.) Okay, how about a 3.9 or 3.8? No. The answer is none. Never. At no time have Obama’s grades ever been cited. And that is damning. Because as any person who’s ever graduated from elementary, high school or college will tell you, their grade point average is so close to their identity as to be the identity itself. Therefore – for that ‘identity’ to be invisible as is the case with Obama, is quite revealing. In plain words, if someone doesn’t mention a high grade point average, it’s for only one reason – there isn’t a high grade point average.

(2) prestigious organizations

Yes, Obama was elected President of the law review. But, as I’ve already cited, this election came when the qualifications of high grades had been eliminated. Therefore one has to look at the other reasons for that election – which necessitates looking at how Obama was elected.

As the NY Times article cites, “Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review’s 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.” In other words, 80 people got together and in a wearying all night session in which fists were banged on the tables and the air was loud with ‘we have to get a BLACK in this position, it’s 1990, for crissakes and we haven’t got one” – the weary people in the early morning hours, exhausted, worn out and unable, unwilling to fight any longer simply chose the only candidate they could think of to be President of the Review. Obama.

And if you think I’m laboring too much on the PC reasons for Obama’s election, the NY Times itself describes the vicious political background against which Obama was elected.

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“…Mr. Obama was the most prominent minority student on a campus shaken by racial politics. A group agitating for greater faculty diversity occupied the dean’s office and sued the school for discrimination; Derrick Bell, a black law professor, resigned over the issue.

The law review struggled to decide whether affirmative action should factor into the selection of editors, and how much voice to give to critical race theorists, who argued that the legal system was inherently biased against minorities.”

Well, it is clear the committee choosing the President of the Review did ‘factor in’ affirmative action. And it is just as clear they didn’t factor in his grades. Nor did they cite his papers written. In fact, there was not a mention of either. Instead, the committee abandoned them altogether and went to something completely unrelated – politics. In citing Obama’s qualifications, they pointed out that he had worked the political wards in Chicago before he came to Harvard. You may well ask – what does this have to do with grades or legal acumen? The answer is – nothing. And the answer gets even more troubling when one then realizes that after Obama was elected to President of the Law Review, he wrote no papers. That’s totally unheard of. Writing no papers for the Law Review is like taking a class in gymnastics without even putting on your leotards to work out. The whole reason for existence of the Review is to write a paper. And yet the very President of it writes none.

(3) clerkship with a judge

This is a shocking failure of Obama’s that he did not clerk with a judge after graduation. The fact that it is a shocking failure is evidenced by the embarrassed committee admitting it up front so as to beat others to it.:

“The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”

“..usually goes on to serve as a clerk”. This polite sentence means ALL Harvard Law Review presidents serve for judges after graduation. Even Obama’s predecessor, Mr. Yu, did that. Indeed, Yu cited his clerkship with a judge so fast you almost thought it was part of his name. And in a sense, it is. There’s a reason why ALL graduates who clerk with a judge trumpet their clerkships instantly in your face. Clerking with a judge is the sign of a law graduate’s intelligence. Bar none. That’s why it’s on their resumes, why it’s the first thing they talk about in conversation “ah, yes, when I clerked with Judge so and so,” etc. It is so prestigious it’s the first thing other attorneys cite when they discuss that particular person – ‘Ah yes, HE clerked with Judge so and so”, etc. In short, clerkship is the shining golden symbol that this attorney is smart. Why? Because judges do not pick stupid people. Why not? Because the clerks oversee the papers for the judge, help write them, do the bulk of research for them, etc. The judge then stands on that work in reaching his decisions, rendering his judgment. Thus, if the work produced by that clerk is faulty – which it will be if the clerk is stupid – than the judge pays for it with his own career, his own reputation. And of course, no judge will do that. Which is why no judge will hire a stupid clerk.

Which thus brings us to the unstated but painfully obvious sign of Obama’s lack of intelligence. Despite holding the staggering position of the Harvard Law Review – NO judge, not one, not a single one, offered a clerkship to Obama. It wasn’t because Obama wasn’t free for the asking. As he made clear in his statement upon accepting the position of President of the Review, Obama eagerly made his availability known by declaring that he would be practicing law for ‘two or three’ years after leaving Harvard. I.e., he was open for the clerk’s position. Except – no judge gave it to him. None.

And Obama painfully admitted he knew this would happen. While other graduates went on to clerkships with judges, the Court of Appeals, even the Supreme Court, etc. or even to prestigious top flight law firms which take only the best of the best, Obama admitted he was not in line for any of that. He would be going for something else. The same ’something’ which had landed him the title of President of the Harvard Law Review – but not the benefits of such. Once the glitter and glisten of that title had worn off, the bare reality beneath was that Obama was nothing a politically glib individual able to talk well in abstract – but not produce in concrete. And the judges had recognized that fact by refusing to give him a clerkship. The brutally competitive law firms had also recognized that by not giving him a position at their firms. Therefore, there was only one venue open to him – politics. As the NY Times put it, Obama would be returning to Chicago to “re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”

Such then is the smoke and mirrors of Obama’s vaunted ‘intelligence’. To this day, he has blown that smoke skillfully in the faces of the liberals to lull them into not asking questions – much the same way the ancient Kings of France blew smoke into the faces of their hunting birds to quieten and lull them into inaction. The terrible problem is that modern bloody birds of prey like Ahmadinijad, Chavez and the Taliban, etc. are not lulled by smoke. To the contrary, these terrorists have mastered the art of blowing their own smoke into the world’s face to lull it into submission and inaction. Such years of mastery means these terrorists will make short shrift of the untested Junior senator from Illinois’s huffing and puffing. Obama’s smoke will be blown back instantly into his face by the hot breath of their hate and insane contempt for human life.

Which will leave Obama with only his intelligence to defend him – and us. Unfortunately, as the above arguments sadly prove, Obama’s intelligence itself appears to be smoke. Thus leaving us with a potential Commander in Chief able to defend this country with — what?

For this country’s safety, we must pierce the smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ at the earliest possible moment. If Obama’s smoke of obfuscation obscures long enough to gain him the White House, that fatal smoke could be blown away only to reveal a greater smoke rising from the ruins of America – a deadly smoke which next time will surely dwarf the ghostly clouds which broiled up from the burning buildings and planes on 9/11.

Posted by Pamela Geller on Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM in Muslim in the White House? | PerObama’s Mythical Intelligence

Much has been written about Obama’s “mythical intelligence” by a media completely in the tank for the boy blunder. His intelligence is , in fact, a myth. Atlas reader Carolyn wrote an excellent piece peeling back the layers of the mendacious narrative to uncover what a lightweight the Soros stooge really is. She describes the unmeritorious means Obama used to achieve his goals – particularly President of the Law Review. When I was in Washington yesterday we were discussing this little mentioned truth – Obama’s year as President produced little worthwhile or significant. Obama’s year is the least cited review. He produced nothing of import.

The smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ Carolyn

Obama’s much vaunted intelligence is in reality nothing but smoke and mirrors.

As nearly everyone has noted lately, Obama’s grasp on facts is being revealed as tenuous at best and embarrassing at worst, as evidenced by his recent gaffe about his uncle having ‘liberated’ Auschwitz when in fact NO American soldier did anything of the kind (in fact – as the quickest glance at a history book will tell you, no American soldier ever set foot in Poland where Auschwitz is located). Now, this kind of lapse could be excused as a typical political mistake, etc. – but in Obama’s case, that excuse can’t be used. It’s not just because this type of typical ‘political’ mistake is what Obama has sworn he’s not – i.e., a typical politician – more to the point, this silly mistake reveals Obama’s ignorance of the bare minimum of historical fact. And such ignorance shakes the very foundation of Obama’s chief qualification for being President – i.e., Obama’s vaunted intelligence. Since everyone acknowledges he lacks experience for the job, the only reason left to support Obama’s claim to the position is because of his intelligence.

Constant references have been given as to Obama’s near-mythical intelligence – and over and over again, every one claims that the ‘proof’ of that intelligence is the fact that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review. And that is a staggering achievement. Only the best and the brightest achieve that – only a student at the top of the grade scale, only a student of outstanding writing skills and superb legal acumen is accorded that honor. It is such a high honor that this accomplishment follows that student through to the rest of his life – it is mentioned in his vitae, his honors, indeed in his very obituary as the incontestable proof of his intelligence. Therefore, it is understandable that all doubts of Obama’s intelligence are instantly assuaged by revealing he was President of the Harvard Law Review.

Assuaged, that is, until one looks a bit closer.

To begin with, the NY Times 1990 article on Obama being elected President of the Harvard Law Review casts the first troubling clues that all is not what it appears to be.

“Until the 1970’s the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.

That system came under attack in the 1970’s and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.”

There is the Achilles heel. The former high standards which all previous Presidents of the Harvard Law Review had been forced to meet – grades, papers, etc.- no longer existed by the time Obama was elected. Instead, the post was selected on something different than grades, papers, etc. It was selected on race. Obama was the ‘right’ race. He was black. Now of course, that doesn’t mean Obama did NOT have intelligence – but what it makes clear is that by the time he was elected, Presidency of the Review no longer proved he DID. Indeed, at the very moment of his election, the proof of his intelligence was so missing that his predecessor at the job refused to confirm it. Of course, the predecessor trode very cautiously and carefully in his statement issued after Obama had just been elected – but the meaning was clear.:

“Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama’s election ”was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.”

Mr. Yu’s words are ominous – ‘others may read something into it.” Clearly, Mr. Yu clearly can’t say he’s one of those ‘others’ recognizing ‘merits’ to instead mean ‘race’. After all, Yu sees which way the PC winds are blowing and he certainly doesn’t want them howling in his face by saying Obama got his post for something other than his intelligence. At the same time, however, Yu’s unease at the choice of Obama is telling for what Yu does not say, as for what he does. For instance, Yu does not cite Obama’s grades nor does Yu cite Obama’s legal writings. Yu says nothing about them at all – and the silence is deafening.

Reading the NY Times further reveals other telltale signs that Obama did not possess the intelligence for that position. As with Mr. Yu’s painfully parsed statement, the signs are noticeable more for what they do not say, than for what they do.

We begin with a brief explanation of the legal world Obama claims to belong to by reason of his intelligence. That world is defined by 3 inescapable proofs of such intelligence. They are: (1) high grades, (2) prestigious organizations (i.e, the Law Review) and (3) clerkship with a judge.

We will begin with the first and most obvious sign of intelligence – grades.

Obama doesn’t have them. Oh, he’s given the aura of possessing them – but when one looks closely at that aura, it disappears like smoke before your eyes. For instance, not once has anyone, ever, at any time, produced those grades. In no publication, either Obama’s or anyone else’s, has any cite been made of that average – was it a 4.0? (Straight A’s?) Was it even higher – 4.3? (A+) (And today’s high school seniors are graduating with 5.0.) Okay, how about a 3.9 or 3.8? No. The answer is none. Never. At no time have Obama’s grades ever been cited. And that is damning. Because as any person who’s ever graduated from elementary, high school or college will tell you, their grade point average is so close to their identity as to be the identity itself. Therefore – for that ‘identity’ to be invisible as is the case with Obama, is quite revealing. In plain words, if someone doesn’t mention a high grade point average, it’s for only one reason – there isn’t a high grade point average.

(2) prestigious organizations

Yes, Obama was elected President of the law review. But, as I’ve already cited, this election came when the qualifications of high grades had been eliminated. Therefore one has to look at the other reasons for that election – which necessitates looking at how Obama was elected.

As the NY Times article cites, “Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review’s 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.” In other words, 80 people got together and in a wearying all night session in which fists were banged on the tables and the air was loud with ‘we have to get a BLACK in this position, it’s 1990, for crissakes and we haven’t got one” – the weary people in the early morning hours, exhausted, worn out and unable, unwilling to fight any longer simply chose the only candidate they could think of to be President of the Review. Obama.

And if you think I’m laboring too much on the PC reasons for Obama’s election, the NY Times itself describes the vicious political background against which Obama was elected.

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“…Mr. Obama was the most prominent minority student on a campus shaken by racial politics. A group agitating for greater faculty diversity occupied the dean’s office and sued the school for discrimination; Derrick Bell, a black law professor, resigned over the issue.

The law review struggled to decide whether affirmative action should factor into the selection of editors, and how much voice to give to critical race theorists, who argued that the legal system was inherently biased against minorities.”

Well, it is clear the committee choosing the President of the Review did ‘factor in’ affirmative action. And it is just as clear they didn’t factor in his grades. Nor did they cite his papers written. In fact, there was not a mention of either. Instead, the committee abandoned them altogether and went to something completely unrelated – politics. In citing Obama’s qualifications, they pointed out that he had worked the political wards in Chicago before he came to Harvard. You may well ask – what does this have to do with grades or legal acumen? The answer is – nothing. And the answer gets even more troubling when one then realizes that after Obama was elected to President of the Law Review, he wrote no papers. That’s totally unheard of. Writing no papers for the Law Review is like taking a class in gymnastics without even putting on your leotards to work out. The whole reason for existence of the Review is to write a paper. And yet the very President of it writes none.

(3) clerkship with a judge

This is a shocking failure of Obama’s that he did not clerk with a judge after graduation. The fact that it is a shocking failure is evidenced by the embarrassed committee admitting it up front so as to beat others to it.:

“The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”

“..usually goes on to serve as a clerk”. This polite sentence means ALL Harvard Law Review presidents serve for judges after graduation. Even Obama’s predecessor, Mr. Yu, did that. Indeed, Yu cited his clerkship with a judge so fast you almost thought it was part of his name. And in a sense, it is. There’s a reason why ALL graduates who clerk with a judge trumpet their clerkships instantly in your face. Clerking with a judge is the sign of a law graduate’s intelligence. Bar none. That’s why it’s on their resumes, why it’s the first thing they talk about in conversation “ah, yes, when I clerked with Judge so and so,” etc. It is so prestigious it’s the first thing other attorneys cite when they discuss that particular person – ‘Ah yes, HE clerked with Judge so and so”, etc. In short, clerkship is the shining golden symbol that this attorney is smart. Why? Because judges do not pick stupid people. Why not? Because the clerks oversee the papers for the judge, help write them, do the bulk of research for them, etc. The judge then stands on that work in reaching his decisions, rendering his judgment. Thus, if the work produced by that clerk is faulty – which it will be if the clerk is stupid – than the judge pays for it with his own career, his own reputation. And of course, no judge will do that. Which is why no judge will hire a stupid clerk.

Which thus brings us to the unstated but painfully obvious sign of Obama’s lack of intelligence. Despite holding the staggering position of the Harvard Law Review – NO judge, not one, not a single one, offered a clerkship to Obama. It wasn’t because Obama wasn’t free for the asking. As he made clear in his statement upon accepting the position of President of the Review, Obama eagerly made his availability known by declaring that he would be practicing law for ‘two or three’ years after leaving Harvard. I.e., he was open for the clerk’s position. Except – no judge gave it to him. None.

And Obama painfully admitted he knew this would happen. While other graduates went on to clerkships with judges, the Court of Appeals, even the Supreme Court, etc. or even to prestigious top flight law firms which take only the best of the best, Obama admitted he was not in line for any of that. He would be going for something else. The same ’something’ which had landed him the title of President of the Harvard Law Review – but not the benefits of such. Once the glitter and glisten of that title had worn off, the bare reality beneath was that Obama was nothing a politically glib individual able to talk well in abstract – but not produce in concrete. And the judges had recognized that fact by refusing to give him a clerkship. The brutally competitive law firms had also recognized that by not giving him a position at their firms. Therefore, there was only one venue open to him – politics. As the NY Times put it, Obama would be returning to Chicago to “re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing.”

Such then is the smoke and mirrors of Obama’s vaunted ‘intelligence’. To this day, he has blown that smoke skillfully in the faces of the liberals to lull them into not asking questions – much the same way the ancient Kings of France blew smoke into the faces of their hunting birds to quieten and lull them into inaction. The terrible problem is that modern bloody birds of prey like Ahmadinijad, Chavez and the Taliban, etc. are not lulled by smoke. To the contrary, these terrorists have mastered the art of blowing their own smoke into the world’s face to lull it into submission and inaction. Such years of mastery means these terrorists will make short shrift of the untested Junior senator from Illinois’s huffing and puffing. Obama’s smoke will be blown back instantly into his face by the hot breath of their hate and insane contempt for human life.

Which will leave Obama with only his intelligence to defend him – and us. Unfortunately, as the above arguments sadly prove, Obama’s intelligence itself appears to be smoke. Thus leaving us with a potential Commander in Chief able to defend this country with — what?

For this country’s safety, we must pierce the smoke of Obama’s ‘intelligence’ at the earliest possible moment. If Obama’s smoke of obfuscation obscures long enough to gain him the White House, that fatal smoke could be blown away only to reveal a greater smoke rising from the ruins of America – a deadly smoke which next time will surely dwarf the ghostly clouds which broiled up from the burning buildings and planes on 9/11.

Posted by Pamela Geller on Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM in Muslim in the White House? |
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#180 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:26 pm

Snowtiger – You know I love ya’, but Lordie, man, just post the link!

#181 utahpuma on 09.22.08 at 5:26 pm

Landipuma, Ontherocks, TexasTigress, Murphy

I have more than one email from Joe, David, and obama to make phone calls.

Heck, I’ll register to make calls and do whatever it takes to get as many lists as I can. I’ll make the calls but need to come up with what I’ll say. Maybe just mark them as calls made and get another list. And then
see what happens.

Problem is, the Obots might do the same to McCain’s call lists.

All’s fair in love and war, right? And if this isn’t war, I don’t know what is!!!

#182 Shane on 09.22.08 at 5:26 pm

Ref.LandiPuma (93) Congratulations on your Action Plans
to beat Obama….you have produced, with obvious hard work, and a very comprehensive list of opportunities and
and appropriate actions to be undertaken by the Pumas.
to rid the Democrats of this American Fuehrer and allow
Senator Clinton to return in 2012
Donald Trump has assessed Governor Palin correctly, he usually makes the right decisions.
Her Florida support at the weekend (estimated at 60,000 at her rally enhances Mr Trump’s endorsement.
All hurt Hillary supporters should give every assistance to the McCain-Palin ticket to prevent the American Fuehrer, Obama from reaching the White House and
bringing disaster to the nation.
Good Fortune, Shane, Ireland

#183 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 5:26 pm

hey there puma-sf1
Yes, received it.
Didn’t respond because you were out the door.
Thanks for writing. Will contact you after I get home from wack (c. kat in your hat).
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133 bobram
DANCES WITH PUMAS – all the completed TV Stations are now at the action center – done – now

Fantastic!!

#184 NJPUMA on 09.22.08 at 5:27 pm

“Candidates fight it out in must-win Pennsylvania”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080922/ap_on_el_pr/battleground_pennsylvania

#185 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 5:27 pm

#158 The lapel pin story is priceless. Maybe Rush will pick it up soon. Nothing gets conservatives riled up like attacks on the flag. Plus, I didn’t know flag lapel pins necessarily had to be political statements.

Also, I sent my e-mail to Rolling Stone.

#186 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:28 pm

You know, sometimes I feel like we’re trying to do what is McCain and the Republican party’s job to do: Expose Obama and beat him! Except we’re small and with few resources, and the GOP is huge with massive resources. Some days I feel like just cashing it in and just volunteering for their campaign. Sometimes this fight feels so huge for how small we are. Sorry, just feeling ssssoooooooooooo tired.

#187 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 5:29 pm

anna..
we cannot allow under any circumstances for a criminal like obama to seize control of our country

#188 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 5:30 pm

#185
Really, I feel reenergized. Like a “phoenix rising from Arizona” (line from “Seinfeld”). Ha Ha

#189 Patty on 09.22.08 at 5:30 pm

Prowl 1 and 2 done.

Headed off for #3

#190 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:31 pm

Hillstheone, Barb, Gypsy and Gosue4hill – Still waiting to hear back from you.

Missy and Snowtiger – Waiting for your follow up.

I know it may take a day or two, but want to make sure everyone has at least initiated their contact.

Thank you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#191 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 5:31 pm

Rant two from the Pimped out land of UC Berkeley frickin’ @holes.

Believe it or not, this is the second email to come down the pike from the Graduate School of Education today and I am about ready to swipe them but don’t want to loose my job…
Here is what was sent out to all of us:
(I am so flippin’ pissed off)
See what I am working with PUMAs, and why I haven’t ‘turned any of them’, this was from a graduate student.

Dear friends and colleagues in the field of education,

It seems that the character assassination and slander of Bill Ayers and
other people who have known Obama is not about to let up. While an
important concern is the dishonesty of this campaign and the slanderous
McCarthyism they are using to attack Obama, we also feel an obligation to
support our friend and colleague Bill Ayers. Many, many educators have
reached out, asking what they could do, seeking a way to weigh in against
fear and intimidation. Many of us have been talking and we agree that this
one gesture, a joint statement signed by hundreds of hard-working
educators, would be a great first step. Such a statement may be
distributed through press releases or ads in the future.

Please go to http://www.supportbillayers.org in order to sign the statement and,
just as importantly, forward it to other friends and colleagues who would
like to stand up against these attacks. (*Title/Affiliation will be listed
for identification purposes only. Please be assured that we have no
intention of using your name for any other purpose than beneath the words
on this page.)

Thank you!
Friends and supporters of Bill Ayers

#192 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:31 pm

osaka – you’re preaching to the converted!

#193 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 5:32 pm

119 kat in your hat
I don’t know if it’s what you require, but there’a link in the Action Center (Elections) regarding Early Elections

#194 Patty on 09.22.08 at 5:32 pm

Anna we may be small but we are strong.
Hang in there. ;)

#195 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:34 pm

Mama , prowls done , and might I add , you are looking exceptionally pretty and youthful today :) Oh I hope Murphy doesn’t mind , but I added the statistics from the top of the e-mail into the body for the NOW one …

#196 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 5:34 pm

Isn’t UC Berkeley a state run campus, and as such, aren’t there rules/laws regarding using govt resources to campaign. Doesn’t the Hatch Act, or some version thereof, apply?

#197 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 5:35 pm

I read in September’s Vogue magazine, one of the Assistant Publishing Editors, quit her job to campaign full time for Obama. She is African American and she believes in him. Obviously, just in case Dances is reading this, I am not advocating anyone do this – just illustrating how passionate and hungry Obama’s people are. I admire their convictions. If Obama were a White man, I don’t think anything like this will happen.

#198 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:35 pm

190 Billie Jo

I don’t know how you manage to work in that environment every day and not lose it! That e-mail is outrageous. I mean, a group called “Friends and supporters of Bill Ayers”! Talk about ivory tower bs! And what exactly is it about a man who built bombs that he set off against his fellow Americans, an act which he feels he did not do enough an for which he remains unrepentent to this day?!* These people live in a bubble, not the real world. The sort that sit around in cafes and talk in some high brow way….fiddling while Rome burns, as a friend of mine say. My blood is BOILING!!!!!!!!!

#199 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 5:35 pm

194 TexasTigress
Mama , prowls done , and might I add , you are looking exceptionally pretty and youthful today

:::::::::::shakin’ head back and forth and :roll: )

#200 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 5:36 pm

160 TexasTigress African Broadcasting system???

#201 jennforhillary on 09.22.08 at 5:36 pm

Prowl done!

#202 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:37 pm

Eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww 195 dances

Good thinking. Anyone know anything a bit more about this and I’ll do a bit of research.

#203 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 5:37 pm

#185 Anna7000
Anna, you are dooing a grat job for being”small’. Plus you have our voices making you LOUD.
We are in the right.
We are fighting for our country and one of the oldest political parties in the country.
Imagine what the political landscape will be if the current crop of crooks maintains control of the DNC?
The republicans are not “evil’, they just have a certain base philosophy. Wrong in some ways right in nothers. We need the Democratic party to counter them. The true democratic party. Democrats , true democrats are not “evil”. Like republicans they have a certain base philosophy. Wrong in some way right in others.
W thee people need each side to act in a manner befitting the greatest achievement of mankind.
A society where individual rights are the norm, not the exception. A place where no man woman or child can be intimidated into not expressing their own opinion.
A place where people of differeing opinions can come together for the common good.
A place called “The United State of America.’

#204 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 5:40 pm

190 BillieJo Wasn’t Berkeley home to Angela Davis, and the SDS back in the late 60′s, early 70′s? And didn’t Huey Newton or Eldridge Cleaver have something to do with them, also?

#205 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 5:41 pm

I can’t put my job in jeopardy (I love my job) so forgive me for posting what I almost sent to the Dean of our school.

Dear Dean xxxxx,
I am sorry to bother you but even though I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary, I have true concerns about the Graduate School of Education being a platform for political views to be sent on the listserve.
Maybe I am out of line, but I find these emails inappropriate on the listserve.
I’m sure people wouldn’t want to know how I feel after being at the Denver Convention.
Thank you.
Billie Jo

#206 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:41 pm

snowtiger – what a great post. i really appreciated it. it truly helped me (and i’ve been told i’m not easy to help!). thank you.

#207 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 5:42 pm

205 Anna7000 Somebody helped you….I see ur doing single posts now. LOL

#208 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:43 pm

billie jo – absolutely, positively you cannot put your job in jeopardy. good idea to vent and post your letter here! i’m on hold right now trying to find out the contact person/dept at the state level re: UC schools, etc…..will keep you posted if i find out anything, though these days the rule seems to be: run around! ugh.

#209 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 5:43 pm

#203 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 5:40 pm

190 BillieJo Wasn’t Berkeley home to Angela Davis, and the SDS back in the late 60’s, early 70’s? And didn’t Huey Newton or Eldridge Cleaver have something to do with them, also?
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I think Berkeley is the place all the good and bad nut cases were at…one time or another.
Unibomber ring any bells?

#210 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 5:43 pm

Another thing obottots do is post on PUMA sites, express racist/republican rants, then screen capture them, and post to anti-puma sites, as a way of convincing omorons that we are racist and or republican. Just their way of trying to invalidate our credibility and influence in obloatmyego’s defeat.

#211 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:44 pm

alice – yes. thanks for noticing, but no body helped me (god forbid!!!). i’m just copying my posts and trying to be more patient as it often takes several tries.

#212 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 5:44 pm

…………………………………………….
GETTING PHONE LISTS

TexasTigress, freddiebrown, ontherocks:

GETTING PHONE LISTS TO CALL :

#107 TexasTigress wrote:

Landi – what if we signed up to make phone calls for Obama and then when we get the phone list we call the people and tell them not to vote for him ???

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freddiebrown wrote:
If anyone is interested, you can sign up (don’t use your info) and get a list of people that Obama wants you to call. This is from their Neighbor to Neighbor project.
Once you get this list, you can either choose to NOT call (therefore tying up their list) or call and them them not to elect NoBama. I have signed up many times to get the list…
Use this link and go to the sign up. The list will appear on your screen right away so you can copy and paste to call or just ignore it.
http://my.barackobama.com/modules/votercontact/login_signup.php

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I had that idea too but was a little unsure about whether to post it here!

– I also thought that signing up at the McCain site would be another way to get phone lists:
http://www.johnmccain.com/

Even if some of us don’t want to campaign directly for McCain, we can encourage the people we call (from Mac’s list) to NOT vote for BO (and give them good reasons).
McCain/Palin would love us for that extra help!

I’m not sure, though, how many of the names they would give us would be Dems… Many might be Republican undecideds… But even talking to them to discourage them from voting for BO is helpful!

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#213 Godzilla on 09.22.08 at 5:45 pm

The NRA is coming out strong:

http://blip.tv/play/Ac6yA4L1Gw

Devestating ad playing in swing states.

More can be viewed from this page:

http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx?NavGuid=430d7335-d158-44f5-aab6-bb7d1226f3fa

#214 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:45 pm

Anna – ” i’m on hold right now trying to find out the contact person/dept at the state level re: UC schools, etc…..will keep you posted if i find out anything, though these days the rule seems to be: run around! ugh.” You’re amazing !!!!

#215 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 5:45 pm

208 BillieJo Oh yeah, I remember that nutjob.

#216 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 5:45 pm

Bill Clinton is right. Hot off the AP:

NEW YORK -Bill Clinton said Monday he understands why Sarah Palin is popular in the heartland: because people relate to her.
“I come from Arkansas, I get why she’s hot out there,” Clinton said. “Why she’s doing well.”
Speaking to reporters before his Clinton Global Initiative meeting, the former president described Palin’s appeal by adding, “People look at her, and they say, ‘All those kids. Something that happens in everybody’s family. I’m glad she loves her daughter and she’s not ashamed of her. Glad that girl’s going around with her boyfriend. Glad they’re going to get married.’”
Clinton said voters would think, “I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They’re wonderful children. They’re wonderful people. And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy.”
Palin, the governor of Alaska, became an overnight star when Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her for his running mate. Her family, including her Down syndrome baby, Trig, her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, and her husband, Todd, four-time winner of the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, have garnered intense media interest.
“I get this,” Clinton said. “My view is … why say, ever, anything bad about a person? Why don’t we like them and celebrate them and be happy for her elevation to the ticket? And just say that she was a good choice for him and we disagree with them?”
The global initiative, a project of Clinton’s foundation, will hold its four-day annual meeting in Manhattan starting Tuesday.

#217 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 5:45 pm

205 Anna7000
Thank you Anna. :) I swear I heard the Battle hymn of the republic in my head while I was writing that.

#218 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 5:45 pm

REPOST from downstairs because I don’t think you have the latest news on the HACKER.

from Fox news re: PALIN’S EMAIL ACCOUNT:

“The FBI has served a search warrant against a 20-year-old college student in connection with the hacking of Sarah Palin’s personal e-mail account.

A witness told WBIR-TV that FBI agents served the warrant at the college residence of David Kernell, a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. Kernell is the son of Mike Kernell, a Democratic state representative from Memphis.

The FBI and Secret Service launched a formal investigation on Sept. 17 into the hacking of one of Palin’s Yahoo! e-mail accounts. Yahoo! declined to comment Sept. 18 on details of the investigation, citing Palin’s privacy and the sensitivity of such investigations.

A Department of Justice spokesman told WBIR-TV that there has been “investigatory activity” in Knoxville regarding the investigation. A witness told the station that several agents arrived at Kernell’s apartment complex early Sunday morning.

A witness told the station they took photos inside Kernell’s apartment and that his three roommates were subpoenaed to testify this week in Chattanooga.”

#219 Patty on 09.22.08 at 5:46 pm

OK I went to the DU. Wow what a shame to see all of those post, and from democrats. (shaking head)
The DONC is the party of the classless.
I couldn’t even figure out how to post.

#220 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 5:46 pm

Hmmmm….. just got this in from Donna Brazile. Interesting that they are even sending these out to repubs now….
*******************************
Dear Karen,
Everything Democrats fight for comes down to these last 42 days.

Universal health care, energy independence ending the war in Iraq – it all hangs in the balance.

All that stands in the way is John McCain and a group of Republican senators who have blocked more legislation than any Congress in U.S. history.

You and I and every other committed Democrat must be dedicated to electing Barack Obama and defeating Republicans wherever we find them.

Forty-two days remain and from Alaska to Mississippi, Democratic Senate candidates are positioned to unseat at least eleven Republicans.

These candidates depend on the DSCC — the DSCC depends on thousands of activists just like you. They need $4.4 million to reach the last quarterly goal of the cycle and to maintain a fighting chance to win the nine seats necessary for a filibuster-proof majority.

All of us have to do our part to meet this critical goal. Even as little as $5 from you gets the DSCC one step closer to victory.

Please rush a contribution of $5 or more to the DSCC to help them win a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate majority. Give now and a group of Democratic Senators will raise $2 for every $1 you give. That triples the impact of your money!

I cannot stress enough how urgent your help is. Here’s why:

McCain/Palin are radically out of touch with the American people but they have fired up the Republican base in a big way. Republicans may have been demoralized during the primaries, but those days are over. They will be turning out in full force to support Republicans up and down the ticket.

They want this thing every bit as bad as we do, and as you can see from the rapid fire GOP attacks on your TV every night they will stop at nothing to win.

I for one will not be outworked or outhustled by the Republicans. And neither will the DSCC.

They’re flooding battleground states with staff and volunteers and they’re helping drive our message of change. Most importantly, DSCC Chairman Sen. Chuck Schumer has instituted a rule that every single GOP attack must be answered unequivocally within 24 hours.

I’m telling you, we’re taking it to the Republicans, but we are out of time. We need thousands of contributions to get us to $4.4 million in a few days otherwise Democratic Senate candidates will get short shrift and we will lose races we could have and should have won.

It may not sound like much, but even $5 from you can be part of a massive wave of grassroots energy that can and will win these Senate races. I know you can have a huge impact.

Please rush a contribution of $5 or more to the DSCC to help them win a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate majority. Give now and a group of Democratic Senators will raise $2 for every $1 you give. That triples the impact of your money!

No matter what the polls say, Election Day will come down to the wire.

The race for the White House and a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate majority will be decided purely by who wants it the most.

How badly do you want to take our country back?

Sincerely,

Donna Brazile

#221 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 5:47 pm

Anna7000 Please read

I am helping with the McCain camp BUT what I did was ask the local office to collect names and numbers of any Hillary supporters that came in. I gave them my Hill yard sign, they hung it up. I now work with a great group of dems only over there. The office even ordered a truckload of DEMS for MCCAIN gear. They have many splinter groups not just repubs all with the same goal
STOP OBAMA. I couldnt do it w/out like minded others.

#222 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 5:48 pm

Anna7000 Please read

I am helping with the McCain camp BUT what I did was ask the local office to collect names and numbers of any Hillary supporters that came in. I gave them my Hill yard sign, they hung it up. I now work with a great group of dems only over there. The office even ordered a truckload of DEMS for MCCAIN gear. They have many splinter groups not just repubs all with the same goal
STOP OBAMA. I couldnt do it w/out like minded others.

#223 Cassie on 09.22.08 at 5:48 pm

This is my letter to the editor. Short, sweet, and to the point?

How dare you have Matt Taibbi write that column about Gov. Palin. Everything he said about Gov. Palin, he is saying about your grandmother, your mother, your wife and your daughters. Nothing in there says anything about the issues. This is all about sexism. How do you people sleep at night? It’s all because of this kind trash talking that lead this country into division. I hope for your sake that you don’t have a son because I don’t think you would want him reading that article. How will he treat his mom? How about “Hey bitch, where’s my dinner?”. I don’t think it sounds too sweet to the ears does it? You better rethink about putting that kind of crap for all those teenage boys out there because they will imitate that kind of hatred against women and you will have blood on your hands.

#224 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 5:48 pm

MURPHEY:

I am not getting the Prowls in my mailbox. MamaPuma has my email.

#225 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 5:49 pm

double posting…………sorry dont know how that happened……happy fingers I guess

#226 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:52 pm

Link to info re: Hatch Act

http://www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm

Just spoke to someone who connected me to someone who connected me …. (you get the picture) …. am an now about to e-mail a labor law attorney for the UC system. To be continued……….

#227 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:52 pm

Link to info re: Hatch Act

http://www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm

Just spoke to someone who connected me to someone who connected me …. (you get the picture) …. am an now about to e-mail a labor law attorney for the UC system. To be continued……….

#228 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 5:52 pm

#211 LandiPUMA -

I posted the Obama Neighbor to Neighbor campaign a few times here and I also email Murphy. She did check it out. Sometimes you may not get any phone numbers – it depends on the zip code. You just have to try again. Once I didn’t get anything, it said no phone numbers available but I poked around and when I came back to the page, there were 25 phone numbers waiting for me.

Please put this in your collection of things we can do that DOES NOT COST MONEY – no big funds needed

#229 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 5:53 pm

#207 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:43 pm

billie jo – absolutely, positively you cannot put your job in jeopardy. good idea to vent and post your letter here! i’m on hold right now trying to find out the contact person/dept at the state level re: UC schools, etc…..will keep you posted if i find out anything, though these days the rule seems to be: run around! ugh.
————
Please don’t tie any complaint to me, I think I am the only one that speaks out at the Graduate School and they all know me, and I will get nailed.

#230 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 5:54 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

PUMAs you have mail!
I don’t know why every other comment does not start with prowls done?????????????????????

Mama

#231 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:54 pm

snowtiger – you make me laugh.

texas – we may be duplicating efforts. lemme write the e-mail and we can always communicate about this further off blog!

hillfan4mccain – great post. thanks.

hugs to all!

#232 rlp33 on 09.22.08 at 5:55 pm

Over all – are we making progress? Are we PUMAS making a difference? I just feel like the odds keep stackin up agaisnt us. Not saying we should give up or anything, I’m just wondering if we are getting through to anyone??

Is anyone hearing any GOOD news for us/Mccain?

Does anyone truly (seriously) feel that McCain will win come November?

I just need to hear some positive news……

#233 monap on 09.22.08 at 5:56 pm

Prowls done – called NOW – save yourself some time – hit 9 to leave a comment. Let them have it for the full 2 minutes allotted.

Woman at Obama’s office told me that they had no comment as to how he was going to address the gender bias in his office. Wonder if she’ll start thinking why she’s getting 78 cents now that we brought it up!

#234 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:56 pm

billie jo – you are wise to post your 228 post. as for me, here’s the deal: i’m a privacy maven. but, it is always prudent to make sure you cover all your bases ie, letting people know the boundaries of what they should should not reveal as we humans can often cross a boundary with all the best of intentions. me, like i said, i air so far on the side of caution it’s a miracle i function! if i were you, i’d re-post your post in bold with a very big heading!

#235 sandtraps on 09.22.08 at 5:56 pm

prowl done

#236 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 5:57 pm

anna – huh what duplicate efforts ? ??Ok , I’ll wait for you . Do you mean for me to stop finding the info you had asked for ?

#237 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 5:57 pm

#232 monap:

LOL. Exactly.

#238 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 5:57 pm

monap – love your last sentence! good one!

#239 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 5:59 pm

BBl

#240 storytellers on 09.22.08 at 6:00 pm

what can you expect from the rolling stones, about 2 yrs ago more or less , the most ugliest of them sniffed his father´s ashes thinking it was something else
I WOULD NOT EVEN BOTHER WITH THEM

#241 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 6:01 pm

#231:

McCain, for a republican in 2008, is doing extremely well in the electoral map. No matter what the MSM says about voter bloc polls and BS, McCain is doing well when it comes to the states.

All that matters is how the states look, not who is sturdier on whatever issue. A republican should be getting slaughtered on the map, and McCain is not. Obama is moving out of red states left and right and becoming just like Kerry …a basic democrat who is likely to lose.

#242 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 6:02 pm

YOU HEARD DONNA BRAZILE :

********
How badly do you want to take our country back?
********

I must admit I got a bit emotional today – because I can see that the Obama machine is in full throttle and just like Hillary’s campaign, it seems such an uphill battle. But we must perservere , we must keep trying.
Some of us are tired, some of us must take over if we have not been do’ers.

#243 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:02 pm

texas – i saw a post from you (i think) regarding billie jo’s post about the whole uc berkeley/bill ayers thing and i had the impression you were going to try to chase down who to contact in the uc system to find out the legalities of what is or isn’t allowed. and, i had already done that. duplicating efforts didn’t pertain to our prowl project. hope this makes sense. if not, send me an e-mail!

#244 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 6:04 pm

My letter to Rolling Stone editors….

Dear editors,

I have come to the conclusion that the once insightful, intelligent and especially ever fresh rolling stone magazine is alas, at it’s end. All the signs have been there for the last few years- culminating in the once coveted cover being offered to the little talented, immature, Warner Brothers teen actress katie holmes. Important long lasting publications should grow, mature and get better with time. Sadly, Matt Taibbi’s immature and over the top diatribe aimed at Governor Sarah Palin only proves my point. The once great rolling stone magazine is now immature with little talented, pre-pubescent minded writers at the helm.

Sincerely,
A fast fading fan

#245 slyt2 on 09.22.08 at 6:04 pm

Sorry Mama prowls are done, been busy do some other prowls of my own too.. :)

#246 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 6:05 pm

ANNA _ LOL – I copied and pasted YOUR words , and then said you’re AMAZING !!!! I am not working on the Berkley stuff , although if something comes out of it that would require something from me – I’m in !

#247 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:05 pm

231rlp33 – who knows what’s going to happen. good news? let’s see. we’re all here, working our asses off and knowing that in so doing we can live with ourselves at the end of the day. there’s a limit to what we can control, but lord i’m getting tired of hitting up against walls. that said, it seems i keep flailing my body at them!

you healthy? if so, there’s some good news. no joke.

#248 slyt2 on 09.22.08 at 6:06 pm

#219 KarenWI I just got the exact same letter and I sent back a message not that she will get it but it makes me feel better…

#249 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:07 pm

Texas – OK. I think we both better breathe! LOL! Keep on runnin’!

#250 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 6:07 pm

“Obama …a basic democrat who is likely to lose.”

… and we’re working hard to guarantee a HUGE loss, not a squeak-by where it is easier to cheat. A HUGE LOSS.
Who could be more deserving of one?

#251 emme on 09.22.08 at 6:08 pm

(((((((FREDDIE)))))))

Freddie – I’ve been making calls for McCain for the last few days. McCain needs help here in PA to ensure that O loses big. So he has my vote and my time after work and on weekends until Nov 4. Not just calling to ask folks to NOT vote for O – here in PA they need to vote FOR McCain. If O loses PA, he loses the White House.

Still have some posters left, but I will run out soon and email you when I’ve distributed them all.

Thank you again for helping me actually feel like I’m doing something everyday!

NObama. NObiden. November. NO DEAL.

#252 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 6:09 pm

Prowl to website done, can’t call at work…you all know why.

#253 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 6:09 pm

Thank you MamaPuma; I’m on it.

I’ve doing some of the earlier ones listed on the actioncenter and I’ve done some blogging and news searching. Didn’t mean to rush you, but I am glad to be in the loop.

#254 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:10 pm

Not to add one more prowl idea into the mix cause today’s blog is already all over the place (but at least filled with great energy!), but, does Obama’s web site list staff? If so, perhaps we could pluck out all the women’s names and send them a short and sweet little note, like, So how do you like working for someone who talks about equal pay for equal work, but pays you 78 cents on the dollar as compared to male staffers?

(I’m just entertaining myself here while waiting for a bunch of e-mails to hit my box!)

#255 Patty on 09.22.08 at 6:10 pm

Prowl Done.

#256 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 6:10 pm

Oh did you just hear FOX, “for the first time in a long time did not fill the arena.” ha!

Some friends in Charlotte told me, he had a hard time pulling in a crowd at a local downtown park yesterday.
hope its true

#257 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 6:11 pm

Above post about BO…..sorry……my little one was talking to me…..

#258 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 6:12 pm

Anna You’ve got mail

#259 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 6:13 pm

What are we doing to target critical states?

#260 Middle age female on 09.22.08 at 6:13 pm

WOW – did you see/hear the place where BO spoke in WI today was only about two-thirds full. They showed all the empty seats. I hope that is an omen.

#261 murphy on 09.22.08 at 6:13 pm

dwp, how about this:

sign up here:

http://pol.moveon.org/obama/teams/index.html?id=13976-3950511-zXs0pex&t=3

#262 Patty on 09.22.08 at 6:13 pm

I left my number with NOW. I told them I wanted to know
if they had researched this not so equal pay charge. So I look forward to hearing from them. We’ll see.

#263 emme on 09.22.08 at 6:14 pm

#256 hillfan4mccain – bound to happen every time there isn’t a free concert anwith a captive audience immediately prior to each of his “huge crowd” appearances! :lol:

#264 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 6:14 pm

A hard working PUMA asked me to post this for her

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid61930.asp#Receipt

First he toured with Donnie McClurkin, an ex-gay who took the opportunity during that tour to rant about us, then he refused to be photographed with Mayor Gavin Newsom (but hangs with Ayers and Wright!), last week in an interview with a gay publication, he said he would not end “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” by executive order as previously promised, and went on to say that the anti discrimination bill is not his responsibility as president (how about as senator???). Anyway, make room for the entire gay community as they (hopefully) wake up to this fool masquerading as a politician with merit

#265 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 6:15 pm

I NEED LINKS !!!!! I need all the links anyone can find FACTUAL ONLY about Obama’s violation of the Logan Act and his conversation with Iraqi leadership . Please help …

#266 murphy on 09.22.08 at 6:15 pm

from e in email:

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid61930.asp#Receipt

First he toured with Donnie McClurkin, an ex-gay who took the opportunity during
that tour to rant about us, then he refused to be photographed with Mayor Gavin
Newsom (but hangs with Ayers and Wright!), last week in an interview with a gay
publication, he said he would not end Don’t Ask Don’t Tell by executive order as
previously promised, and went on to say that the anti discrimination bill is not his
responsibility as president (how about as senator???).

Anyway, make room for the entire gay community as they (hopefully) wake up to this
fool masquerading as a politician with merit.

#267 murphy on 09.22.08 at 6:16 pm

damn you mama!

#268 Susie1945 on 09.22.08 at 6:16 pm

Hi Pumas – Been very busy today doing life stuff so only stopped early this morning & saw what the blog was doing – guess I’m a racist- what the hell……….. I’ve been called worse things in the last four months or so

Just caught cupcake finally giving a response to the big trillion dollar bailout (don’t get me started – only reason they(meaning all those assholes in Washington & Wall Street) are jumping in to save this mess is because that’s where their money is – greed, greed, greed – should let the whole thing go to hell – anyway – cupcake is now parroting JM – unfrickin’believable – makes my head hurt……………………

gotta check out the stuff for the prowls – may have to wait until tomorrow…………….

#269 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 6:18 pm

MamaPuma

I saw the other day on the ticker about Dont Ask Dont Tell, how BO will not overturn it. I NEVER heard it on the MSM, just on the ticker

prowls done

#270 diva2 on 09.22.08 at 6:19 pm

Murphy,

Are you here? Hey that Tucker guy from MSNBC is downstairs talking to an energy my husband belongs to. I could not go listen as I might have gone nuts. But if he is at dinner and I get the opportunity, I will introduce myself as a Hillary supporter and PUMA democrat. If possble, do you want me to try and get you an interview again with MSNBC? No guaranty but will try if you want.

Dinner is at 5:30 pst.

Thanks

#271 hillstheone on 09.22.08 at 6:19 pm

Rolling Stone Prowl
Matt is probably all of 28 years old.
Here’s what I wrote:

I am writing to give you some feedback on the story in Rolling Stone about Sarah Palin.
RE: this passage in particular:

“…she is a horrifying symbol of how little we ask for in return for the total surrender of our political power. Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she’s the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV — and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the base energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.”

There is nothing dumb about being the Governor of the state of Alaska and understanding national defense issues including outfitting the National Guard. Nothing dumb in working on energy issues from your side of the aisle – doesn’t mean you have to agree with it, but this is not a dumb person.

I’m sorry but as a woman voter, a subscriber to Rolling Stone & lifelong Democrat I don’t see how you can call Sarah Palin a “fraud” or “tawdry.” Those seem like incredibly sexist terms especially given the fact the our own Party Leaders – Harold Dean and Nancy Pelosi – did a lousy job of vetting the candidate they selected to run for President (Obama). He is neither qualified nor has leadership qualities, i.e., backbone.

In fact he doesn’t appear to have half the backbone of Palin! Governor Palin enjoys a high approval rating in her state including a 75% approval by Democrats. A publication like Rolling Stone oughta know Palin is a Republican and doing her job AS A REPUBLICAN quite well. NewsFlash, she’s also a role model for girls and women interested in pursuing a careers – regardless of party affiliation!

But maybe this is a good opportunity to communicate with you from the reader’s perspective. I subscribe to RS and read your sexist commentary and look at your sexist ads month after month. I only continue to read your publication while holding my nose because I want to keep current on Music. Why can’t you just stick to the topic at hand, Music – instead of trying to be what you are so clearly not?! I’m weary – and truly offended – at the continued gender bias displayed in the pages of Rolling Stone month after month.

Think about it, guys. If you feel “jacked off” (your poor word choice) by the Republican Party for putting a woman Governor into the race, how do you think women feel for what the Democratic Party pulled on them this election cycle, choosing a candidate who used Caucus Fraud instead of the (WOMAN) candidate who won the Popular Vote?

The article about Governor Palin comes across as gender biased and elitist. Oh, wait, I forgot, that’s what the Democratic Party stands for now that they threw Hillary Clinton under the bus and preferred Obama instead – CAUCUS FRAUD tactics, and all.

Change? I think not!

In short, may I suggest your staff and writers take some required training in learning how to live alongside capable women. Might not only help you do well in the corporate world, but in your personal relationships as well.

Parting words, guys:
THIS IS 2008, Wake Up, Grow Up, Figure It Out!!!

#272 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 6:19 pm

261 murphy

Unless it was intentional, you’ll want to delete tha portion of you link beginning at: id=… to the end of it.

#273 hillstheone on 09.22.08 at 6:21 pm

diva,
If you get Murphy an msnbc invite get her on Olbermann this time, so she can really tell him off! ;D
He’s lucky only by fate did he escape the PUMA wrath at the msnbc stage in Denver, lol…

#274 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 6:21 pm

267 murphy
damn you mama!
——————-
If I had said that to Mama, she would have sent me to my room…oh, wait, this is your room. Nevermind.

#275 diva2 on 09.22.08 at 6:23 pm

#273 Hillstheone

I need to go check out this Tucker guy and find out what power, if any, he has at MSNBC. Will do my best.

#276 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 6:25 pm

Dances
I may be old but I beat MURPHY
NannyNannyBooBoo

By the way does that is= stuff identify the computer?

#277 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 6:26 pm

Ok, so Bill O’Reilly is doing a small thing on Obama and his Bill Ayers-Bernandine Dorhn connection.

If “Chicago Annenberg Challenge” is not mentioned, I am going to SCREAM.

We will see.

#278 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:29 pm

Texas Tigress

You may want to check out this link. It’s a super conservative publication that’s been vetting Obama all year, usually running several pieces per day. Go into their “Archives” section and look around in the “Articles” and “Blog” to see titles that may relate to the Logan Act. Some of the writing is sloppy and doesn’t include references, but a lot of the writing does, so you may find what you’re looking for there. Plus, you get the added bonus of reading media that tells it like it is when it comes to BO!

http://www.americanthinker.com/

#279 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:29 pm

Texas Tigress

You may want to check out this link. It’s a super conservative publication that’s been vetting Obama all year, usually running several pieces per day. Go into their “Archives” section and look around in the “Articles” and “Blog” to see titles that may relate to the Logan Act. Some of the writing is sloppy and doesn’t include references, but a lot of the writing does, so you may find what you’re looking for there. Plus, you get the added bonus of reading media that tells it like it is when it comes to BO!

http://www.americanthinker.com/

#280 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:30 pm

oops

#281 mzebest on 09.22.08 at 6:30 pm

Suggestion when receiving viral smear Palin emails

Why don’t you hit the reply all button (so it goes to everyone in the viral email list) and send a link that explains the truth about Palin… but then also include a link that explains something true about Obama (which will always be something bad in Obama’s case).

Also — has anyone seen this AP interview article with Bill Clinton. Again… he subtly gets the message out that McCain/Palin are a great choice. Gotta love that guy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080922/ap_on_el_pr/bill_clinton_palin_1;_ylt=Ah9wT64tjdCaXFu_5FDIggzCw5R4

#282 thecandypoem on 09.22.08 at 6:31 pm

On View today, Bill Clinton clearly gave every woman and every Hillary voter “permission” to vote for whomever they want. That is how I interpret his message: NOBAMA!

#283 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 6:31 pm

anna – thanks , I love american thinker !

anna – thanks , I love american thinker !

#284 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 6:33 pm

Texas

I was asking for Logan links yesterday. I didnt get any.

#285 slyt2 on 09.22.08 at 6:34 pm

Dinner time be back in a little bit….bye for now.

#286 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:35 pm

Murphy – Just got the prowl. Already did part of it yesterday. Quick question: Whenever we do these kinds of prowls, why not make it a habit to bcc the media?

#287 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:35 pm

Murphy – Just got the prowl. Already did part of it yesterday. Quick question: Whenever we do these kinds of prowls, why not make it a habit to bcc the media?

#288 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:35 pm

forget “oops”
i’m escalating to
f***

#289 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:36 pm

Texas and Carical – Have you tried doing a google search with key words to see if any press articles come up?

#290 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 6:37 pm

thecandypoem

Bill Clinton
Plz tell me more

#291 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 6:39 pm

#216 kat in your hat

class act!

#292 4hillinca on 09.22.08 at 6:39 pm

Prowls Done!!

#293 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 6:39 pm

************ ACTION ***********
– Send this data & link to nat’l & local (swing-states) media and encourage coverage (see Action Center for media addresses)
***********************************

OBAMA PAYS WOMEN LESS THAN MEN IN HIS STAFF

Obama pays his female Senate staffers, on average, only 78 percent of what he pays male staffers.

Women on McCain’s staff, meanwhile, earn 24 percent more on average than women on Obama’s Senate staff. McCain also pays his female Senate staff members a higher average salary than his male Senate staff members.

Women occupy seven of the top 10 highest-paid positions on McCain’s staff, and five of the top 10 highest-paid positions on Obama’s staff.

The numbers come from the most recent Report of the Secretary of the Senate, which includes the salaries of every member of each U.S. senator’s staff during the period of Oct. 1, 2007 through March 31, 2008.

This is the second consecutive six-month period reviewed by CNSNews.com in which McCain, an Arizona Republican, has paid women on his Senate staff a higher average salary than he pays men and Obama has paid men a higher average salary than he pays women.

The pay gap between men and women in McCain’s office closed in the most recent six-month period compared to the previous period, but the pay gap widened slightly in Obama’s office. The CNSNews.com analysis included all staff members for each Senator—except those listed as “interns”—that were included in the Report of the Secretary of the Senate.

Gender issues have played a role in the presidential race recently as McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, the first woman to be nominated for vice president by the Republican Party.

In the period from October 1 through March 31, Obama paid women on his Senate staff an average annual salary of $44,953.21, which was $12,472 less than the $57,425.00 average annual salary he paid men. Women outnumbered men on the staff 30 to 27.

McCain paid women on his Senate staff an average annual salary of $55,777.39, which was marginally higher than the average annual salary of $55,165.29 that he paid men.

In percentage terms, McCain paid female staffers 101 percent of what he paid men. Women outnumbered men on McCain’s staff, 26 to 16.

Thirteen of the 20 highest paid members of McCain’s Senate staff were women during the sixth-month reporting period. Eight of the 20 highest paid members of Obama’s Senate staff were women.

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Above excerpts from:
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972
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#294 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 6:40 pm

#251 emme on 09.22.08 at 6:08 pm

(((((((FREDDIE)))))))

Freddie – I’ve been making calls for McCain for the last few days. McCain needs help here in PA to ensure that O loses big. So he has my vote and my time after work and on weekends until Nov 4. Not just calling to ask folks to NOT vote for O – here in PA they need to vote FOR McCain. If O loses PA, he loses the White House.

Still have some posters left, but I will run out soon and email you when I’ve distributed them all.

Thank you again for helping me actually feel like I’m doing something everyday!

NObama. NObiden. November. NO DEAL.

*********
Thanks Emme !! If I can get a few people to feel like you do, then I will endure every scolding and insult that DWP throws my way. There are things I care about and things I don’t.

Right now, only one thing I care about NoBama. Email me for more posters before you run out – in fact I will email you the new poster for your input. I am considering helping out at the McCain campaign myself.

#295 Notyoursweetie on 09.22.08 at 6:41 pm

Christopher Hitchens is afraid the Clintons might return. So he is asking: Is Obama another Dukakis?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/ia-obama-another-dukakis/

#296 ipotter on 09.22.08 at 6:42 pm

Link to video discussing unethical editing job abc did on Palin interview to bias the public against her:

http://blogsforjohnmccain.com/abcs-breach-ethics-palin-interview

#297 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 6:42 pm

Anna: Thanks for the “American Thinker” reminder. I know enough to visit them regularly and should do so.

McCain hits Obama’s Chicago Ties in new ad
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/mccain_hits_obamas_chicago_tie.html

#298 murphy on 09.22.08 at 6:43 pm

yes please diva2 and thank you!

hi ipotter!

gotta go do a dancing school pickup.

brb.

#299 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 6:44 pm

anna – I think I’ve googled the hell out of the topic …. Without the MSM reporting on this stuff , no one believes it’s real ! it’s a fucking wonder how people get out of bed in the mornings with out the MSM telling them the sun came up !!!!!

#300 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 6:46 pm

Anna yeah I do them all of the time I did just find one where he denied it…

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/15/obama-camp-denies-he-tried-to-delay-withdrawal-agreement-of-troops-from-iraq/

#301 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:46 pm

dances – not ignoring your post re: how to hit the swing states. this is crucial and also a real head scratcher since we just don’t have access to names and contact lists. aarrrgggghhhhhhhhh. having specific media links by state in the ac seems like a move in the right direction. and i think the denver group were certainly going to be focusing their ads in swing states. but, it’s frustrating. gotta eat. will think about it more. have been thinking about it for days (or has it been years, no,no, that’s right, just days…living in a time warp!)

#302 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:52 pm

Texas and Carical – One more (zaney) idea: How about calling Obama’s campaign headquarters with a little script prepared ahead of time saying you’re interested in learning more about his meeting with…….blah, blah, blah…..and see if they can’t point you in a direction as to where you can find more info about it. Be really enthusiastic when you call!

#303 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:52 pm

Texas and Carical – One more (zaney) idea: How about calling Obama’s campaign headquarters with a little script prepared ahead of time saying you’re interested in learning more about his meeting with…….blah, blah, blah…..and see if they can’t point you in a direction as to where you can find more info about it. Be really enthusiastic when you call!

#304 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:52 pm

Texas and Carical – One more (zaney) idea: How about calling Obama’s campaign headquarters with a little script prepared ahead of time saying you’re interested in learning more about his meeting with…….blah, blah, blah…..and see if they can’t point you in a direction as to where you can find more info about it. Be really enthusiastic when you call!

#305 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:52 pm

oops
f***
and
s***

#306 wontbackdown on 09.22.08 at 6:53 pm

#299 TexasTigress

Did you check in the “E” ?

#307 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 6:55 pm

uhoh you been hit with the E

#308 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 6:57 pm

shit

#309 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 6:58 pm

#260 middleagedfemale… NO I DIDN’T see where the Green Bay Obama one was 2/3 full! Does anyone have a link about that???? That was the same place as where McCain-Palin spoke at last week and I went to. The seats were PACKED and the floor space (standing room only) was shoulder to shoulder! In my local paper (which is very liberal) almost all the opinion things posted are REALLY nasty and dirty against Palin and just oozing Obama. I thought for sure it would be just as packed as for McCain-Palin. I don’t know if Obama had his usual rock band playing here, but I know that we didn’t even have any standing room last week for Mac-Palin, and the only band there was a local school band, LOL………..

#310 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 6:58 pm

ANNA _ WOW ! 3 in a row !!!! You are on fire , girl !

#311 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 6:59 pm

Ok, in case you guys haven’t seen this one yet (lol)

“Barack Obama In Veggie Burger Hill”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XarnrGy0mVw&eurl=http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

#312 wontbackdown on 09.22.08 at 6:59 pm

#307 Caracal Carrie

…that “f*%king” “E” ;-)

#313 bobram on 09.22.08 at 6:59 pm

#179 Snowtiger – that was a long ass post – took up half my memory bank on the computer LOL

#314 heysandy on 09.22.08 at 7:01 pm

#251 emme

God bless you, dear. Where are you in PA?

#315 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 7:02 pm

#312 wontbackdown

LOL

#316 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 7:04 pm

Texas did you see I actually got Indiana’s page done on the caucus fraud link? I am trying to break down all of the other states now.

#317 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 7:04 pm

Landi Puma – Anna 7000 had this post 3 times so she must really want us to read it :) Pls put it on your list of things to do.

#302 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:52 pm
Texas and Carical – One more (zaney) idea: How about calling Obama’s campaign headquarters with a little script prepared ahead of time saying you’re interested in learning more about his meeting with…….blah, blah, blah…..and see if they can’t point you in a direction as to where you can find more info about it. Be really enthusiastic when you call!

#318 turndownobama on 09.22.08 at 7:04 pm

On the current Puma Prowl, here’s soem good information to give the targets:

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972

“Women occupy seven of the top 10 highest-paid positions on McCain’s staff, and five of the top 10 highest-paid positions on Obama’s staff.”
Obama’s staff: 30 women to 27 men
McCain’s staff: 26 women to 16 men

Barack Obama: 202-224-2854
National Organization for Women: call: 202-628-8669

#319 Laurey4Hill on 09.22.08 at 7:04 pm

I am no longer sure how many prowls are out there today. I did Now, penny pinching, sexist BO, Thank you to Hillary, The Logan Act group, I did not do CNN as I have been written them 3 times about their bias in the last six months. I just do not watch anything at all on the channel now – I am even giving up Lou Dobbs.

But I digress, is there anything I am missing?

#320 bobram on 09.22.08 at 7:06 pm

#183 Dances – the last four States do now show up in the Action Items – unless my eyes have just fallen out of my head and I can’t pick them up –

Michigan, Colorado, South Carolina and North Carolina

#321 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 7:06 pm

Hay Pumas back from work.

Did Prowl. :)

#322 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 7:08 pm

#313 bobram
Sorry about that. :)
It does have some really good info.
I’ve been reading different newspapers and it seems there is a standard letter supporting Carpathia.
It always mentions his Harvard Law review “presidency”.
If we can verify the information, we can use it as talking points.
I just don’t have time right now.
So if any PUMAS have some free time…..
Maybe one of our more personable PUMAS can try contacting Mr. YU.

#323 bobram on 09.22.08 at 7:08 pm

Dances – oops – my eyes have fallen out of my head – was reading my own words – sorry – your response was fantastic…..now I will crawl back into the den and cough up my fur balls…ugh.

#324 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:08 pm

Ok, Anna, you asked about Obama and Logan Act? This came to people’s attention because of two NY Post articles by Amir Teheri. McCain camp made a statement and Obama camp made two statements. We are now waiting for Amir Teheri to respond the latest from republican Hagel who stood up for Obama, and said that Obama behaved during the meetings, but he cited the first meeting with someone else, and NOT the second meeting with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, and besides, Hagel endorsed Obama and really wanted to be his VP, so this guy is useless.

It’s like a conversation going back and forth, the NY Post writer and the O camp. Read Amir Teheri’s articles:

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

OBAMA OBJECTS
BUT THE EVIDENCE SAYS I’M RIGHT
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_objects_129453.htm?page=0

#325 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 7:12 pm

Please tell me why I have only seen a few
“Prowl Done”‘s

Everyone is screaming for action – now go do the actions! That seems pretty simple and also pretty clear.

Mama

#326 turndownobama on 09.22.08 at 7:12 pm

Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:35 pm
Whenever we do these kinds of prowls, why not make it a habit to bcc the media?
====================

Right. The targets just try to deny it happened. We need to cc some outside observer. But I don’t want to tie up any good guy’s email or phone. So who? POlitico?

#327 Laurey4Hill on 09.22.08 at 7:13 pm

1Gypsy4Mc, I have sent you the list I have compiled for you to look over.

#328 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 7:14 pm

kat – it was me , and thanks – that’s the only info I have however . On the rally congress letter , it says that it was also reported on NBC but I can’t find that … I did , however, get an auto-response from Sen. Cornyn from the letter…

#329 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:14 pm

# 325:
Oh, sorry Prowls done! One part needs to be continued tomorrow, but basically all done!

#330 Laurey4Hill on 09.22.08 at 7:15 pm

Any Pumas interested in looking at my comparison of McCain and Obama which I put together to email to people en masse?

I would love others to look it over for content, add anything I may have missed or offer suggestions.
If you would like to take a look, please post your gmail address.

#331 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 7:15 pm

I just got an email “from” Michelle Obama on my gmail account. An account I use strictly for this blog. I wonder how that happened? Anyway, lets see if we can’t learn from the best and use their game plan.

Freddie —

This Friday, we’ll reach another milestone in this campaign — the first debate of the general election, on September 26th at 9:00 p.m. Eastern time.

Millions of Americans will tune in to watch Barack debate John McCain about America’s foreign policy and our role in the world.

Barack will share his plan to bring the change we need — to restore our place in the world, ensure security at home and abroad, and reestablish the United States as the world’s economic leader.

This is a great opportunity for you to learn more about the issues. And it’s also a great opportunity for you to share Barack’s message of change with your friends, family, and neighbors by attending a Debate Watch Party.

Watch the debate with friends and supporters, and talk about how you can get involved in this movement.

I recorded a brief message about these parties. Please take a moment to watch the video and sign up to attend a Debate Watch Party in your community.

#332 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 7:16 pm

Kat

I saved all of the information from the original NY Post article.

However, there are claims that Amir Tehiri has been accused of making up claims to generate news stories.

I would love to be able to use the info on the web site, but I am trying to stay away from using sites that are stictly anti-Obama. Or any information that can be dismissed as less than fact. There are enough facts out there that people need to know.

So anyway, I was hoping to have any kind of back up to that article that has come to light.

#333 ElyLos Angeles on 09.22.08 at 7:18 pm

Prowls, DONE!!!!
:roll:

#334 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:18 pm

Texas: I have the NBC link. It was reported by MSNBC. From another blog:

Comment by tminu:

“Isn’t the MSNBC article from June an admission of guilt by obama about violating the Logan Act with Zebari?

Superimpose this upon Zebari’s going on record in the NYP that Obama tried to get him to delay withdrawal (so OBama could take credit for it).

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1146192.aspx

this was reported on back in June, by MSNBC.
Read for yourself:
“Obama spoke briefly (about 10 minutes) with reporters about his telephone conversation with Zebari.

Obama told Zebari, he said, that Congress should be involved in any negotiations regarding a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq. He suggested it may be better to wait until the next administration to negotiate such an agreement.”

(and wouldn’t it be IRONIC that MSNBC holds the proof of Zebari’s statement in its own archives?)”

#335 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 7:19 pm

COURTESY OF THE LOVELY – MICHELLE OBAMA
Don’t blame me for gag reflexes..

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/debate-watch-party-a

#336 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:20 pm

#332 Caracal, see #334

#337 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 7:20 pm

omg Kat that is awesome.

#338 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 7:21 pm

324 kat in your hat (aka, information central – you and trish, that is!)

actually, whatever post you saw from me re: logan act was trying to help carical and texas brainstorm how to access info on obama’s trip. i’m sure they saw your post with the helpful links. i think this is exactly what they were looking for.

TEXAS and CARICAL – SEE POST 324!!!

#339 Worker Bee on 09.22.08 at 7:21 pm

prowls done.

#340 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 7:22 pm

KAT #334 – THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#341 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 7:22 pm

Prowl done Mama.

#342 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 7:22 pm

Good vid. This guy gives a play by play of Obamas speech.
Obama in Green Bay Wisconsin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqXGv40-eU4

#343 Headclunker on 09.22.08 at 7:23 pm

I tried to vote on a PBS link and got a notice:

Your IP address [xxxxxxxx] has been blacklisted by the PBS.org technical staff. This usually happens because exessive requests to the PBS.org or PBSKids.org webservers were made by that IP address. If you are reading this message, it probably means it’s not your fault. If you think you have been blocked mistakenly, please email the following technical information to webtech@pbs.org: …

Here’s the link: http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

The O’bots are circulating the poll for vote.

I sent notice that the blacklisting was fraudulent.

#344 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 7:24 pm

turndownobama – i just think that if we’re going to bother to contact NOW, for example, regarding their support of bo yet his pay discrepencies among his own staffers, that we can get the most mileage by ccing the media as well. it serves two purposes: let’s them know what we’re doing while also informing them about pay scale issues. i’d hit all the msm for all of it all of the time, but that’s just me.

#345 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 7:24 pm

#335 freddiebrown
I could only watch 11 seconds.
Will try and view the rest after I get drunk.

#346 Grizzly on 09.22.08 at 7:25 pm

Remember when Hillary was pretty roundly savaged far and wide for her “Tuzla Moment”? Well, apparently Biden has his own:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/the-story-behin.html

Is anyone surprised that Biden’s identical incident is getting NO play in the MSM? I don’t count an ABC blog as the MSM, although Jack tapper has done yoeman’s work in being one of the most fair and balanced reporters in this election.

#347 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 7:26 pm

Texas and Carical – Don’t want to be discouraging, but, since it seems that the majority of the Ethics Committee are Republicans, it would seem that if there really were something there, they would have pounced on it by now, no? We’re not experts and I’m sure the details of the Logan Act are typed on pages of legal fine print. I would assume the folks on the Ethics Committee would have a good grasp of it and, as I said, would have been all over it since there are so many Republicans on the committee.

#348 HP Boston on 09.22.08 at 7:26 pm

Prowls done ………………MINUS ……………………………………………………….the fax parts.
PumaPac.org http://www.pumapac.org
fax part, no fax not never.

#349 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:28 pm

Your welcome guys. Have no worries on this, I’m sure there is some behind the scenes investigating on this that we don’t even know about.

At the very least, the Obama/ Logan Act petition/ letters to congress is annoying the hell out of them and making them look into it–or at least be aware that WE know about it.

#350 heysandy on 09.22.08 at 7:28 pm

Prowls done (email only)

#351 TerryDo on 09.22.08 at 7:28 pm

287 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 6:35 pm Murphy – Just got the prowl. Already did part of it yesterday. Quick question: Whenever we do these kinds of prowls, why not make it a habit to bcc the media?
********************

All Prowls Done!

Excellent suggestion Anna7000, since we are sending out an email, what is 15 more or more email addresses added to the prowl….

#352 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 7:28 pm

I feel a little better but not yet good

More
Prowl’s done please

Mama

#353 BarbNOBO on 09.22.08 at 7:29 pm

Prowls done. Anna you have mail!

#354 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 7:30 pm

#347 Anna7000

personally I dont give a crap if it violated the Logan act. I do give a crap that it means that he said to leave my son in Iraq until he gets elected so he can look good.

#355 janelb1950 on 09.22.08 at 7:31 pm

Prowls done.

#356 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 7:31 pm

#345 snowtiger
I lack ovaries – so I didn’t dare watch – I have to go help unload a 40 foot container this evening. Yes, I sweat for my funds.

For those interested, Michelle Obama is advocating a house party during the debates to convert more people.
Something like the home partie that we talked about – except that Obama’s campaign took it way, way further.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/debate-watch-party-a

#357 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 7:32 pm

#346 Grizzly

Poor Biden. You know why Apple computers don’t have viruses. Because no one cares. Everyone uses a PC.

Biden isn’t worth hacking.

Now Palin on the other hand needs some fire wall action real bad.

LOL!

#358 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 7:33 pm

Prowls done
Uploaded another Denver action youtube to PumaMedia
Added TV contact lists for 4 more states. So far we have TV, and some radio and newspaper contact listings for these states:
Colorado

Florida
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan

Minnesota
Missouri
New Hampshire

Nevada
(Newspapers, TV, and Radio)

New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio

Oregon
Pennsylvania

South
Carolina

Virginia

Washington

Wisconsin

#359 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:34 pm

You guys already know about this, but here’s some more on Palin’s “hacker” (funny how he calls himself an Obamacrat on his Facebook profile)

“Obamacrat Served: Welcome to “Get In Their Face” Politics”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/22/obamacrat-served-welcome-to-get-in-their-face-politics/#more-4951

#360 Luckyseven on 09.22.08 at 7:34 pm

Prowls done!
This was posted on Larry Sinclair’s site. It could be an interesting tactic.
SUIT TO CHALLENGE OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE ON MINNESOTA BALLOT
It appears that a civil suit will be filed in Minnesota State Court as well to challenge Barack Obama’s constitutional right to be on the Minnesota State Ballot in November.

I urge everyone to file legal challenge to Obama’s right to be on your states ballot as well, and do so now. The Defendants will be Barack Obama, your states Democratic Party and the Secretary of State for you state.

Until Obama has proven he is constitutionally entitled to be on the ballot on a federal level, he should not be on any state ballots and the states must determine if he is eligible for the state ballots.

#361 indy on 09.22.08 at 7:35 pm

GET THIS!

I was listening to the financial news on tv and part of the Government bailout Paulson said is to be used to bailout Foreign banks not only US banks. Paulson said the Foreign banks have US employees here. It’s bad enough we’re bailing out US banks now Paulson wants us to bail out foreign ones!

You know if the Government would have listened to Hillary last winter when she said to freeze mortgage payments and renegotiate them to more affordable payments, this financial crisis wouldn’t have happened.

The people would have been able to make their payments and the banks, while not getting the higher mortgage payment, would have been getting paid and the collapse of these institutions would have been averted.

But Nooooooo, Obama’s the Democratic nominee. What does the “little woman in the pantsuit know?”

Here’s a link that says a PR firm tied to Axelrod is behind the Palin smears.

http://www.mypetjawa.mu.nu/#194057

#362 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 7:36 pm

Sorry, didnt mean to post live links

#363 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 7:36 pm

Carical Carrie – I hear every word you’re saying. And, I had no idea your son was in Iraq. I hope and pray he will come home safe and sound and soon.

BarbNOBO – Got your e-mail. Thank you!

#364 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 7:38 pm

Thanks Anna

#365 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 7:38 pm

Anna7000
Do you recall, off-hand, the link you asked someone to forward to teh action center earlier today? I was at work and couldnt capture it.

I’ll look for it… just tell me what it was if you recall.

#366 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 7:39 pm

347 Anna7000 – I agree with you about the ethics committee – this is regarding my own personal e-mail I have been sending out ( wish it were viral) on post #154 . Someone in my inbox accused me of fabricating the Logan act violation and I needed to respond . I go to great lengths to make sure that I am not spreading false information . It would make me seem less credible , and there is no need when there is such a vast amount of information on this corrupt candidate !!! :)

#367 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 7:39 pm

#356 freddiebrown

Like what? a Tupperware party? Bring you check books! There will be door prizes.

LOL

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/mba0280l.jpg

#368 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:39 pm

#354 Caracal Carrie. Yes, you are right. Obviously the act is immoral and cold as ice.

#369 thecandypoem on 09.22.08 at 7:39 pm

Bill Clinton on View today–MUST SEE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98

#370 bobram on 09.22.08 at 7:39 pm

Thank you Dances – starting tomorrow I will get the major Newspaper links for all those key states — I do not want to be the cause of you slinking in the den away from the sunlight though – forgive me??

#371 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 7:40 pm

MAMA!!!! Dances is touching me !

#372 HP Boston on 09.22.08 at 7:40 pm

Mmmm my Norton antivirus just told me my computer
had an intrusion attempt was blocked!
First time that ever happened and the last time I go to an OBUMA SITE!

#373 Laurey4Hill on 09.22.08 at 7:41 pm

I also did the Rolling Stone prowl. I just remembered that.

#374 rain on 09.22.08 at 7:41 pm

Hi all been lurking thought I would sign in and post the following email I received from Hillary, did anyone receive this one also? I have unsubcribed from HillaryClinton.com but I guess they kept my email address:

I got my start in politics the old-fashioned way, knocking on doors 35 years ago in Texas and talking to people about a candidate I believed in.

And I will never forget the people in my campaign who got on a plane, hopped in a car or got on a campaign bus so they could knock on doors and talk to voters, and ask them for their vote. It was a special thing you did for me and it made an incredible difference.

I know you all worked your hearts out and now I am asking you to do that once again to help elect Barack Obama, Joe Biden and to expand our Democratic majorities. That is why at HillPAC we are launching Hillary Sent Me! — a grassroots program for you where you can hit the road each weekend to knock on doors and talk to voters.

Tell them Hillary sent you and let everyone know we need change and that change begins by electing Barack Obama President and creating a filibuster-proof majority in Congress. As we read the headlines about our troubled economy, the stakes of this election only get higher and that is why we don’t have a minute to lose.

I want as many of my strong supporters as we can send out going to battleground states and urging voters to choose Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Democratic majorities in Congress this November.

Sign up today to join our “Hillary Sent Me!” program to reach out to voters in battleground states.

I don’t have to tell you what’s at stake, because you’ve been involved in this fight from the very beginning. Now is the time for us to put everything we can into winning. We can’t let John McCain keep us moving down the path that George W. Bush has set.

America is depending on us, on our leadership. Every door we knock on, every voter we speak to, can make the difference in this election.

So let’s hit the road and talk to every voter we can between now and November 4.

Sign up now and help deliver a big victory for Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Democrats on November 4.

Throughout the campaign, I depended on your support time and again. Now America is counting on you to keep working, to keep fighting.

Everything we believe in is at stake in this race. I want to thank you for all your hard work. And when you knock on those doors, you can tell them that Hillary sent you.

Sincerely,

Hillary

My response is: sorry Hill I will be knocking on doors for Mccain!

#375 pa dem on 09.22.08 at 7:43 pm

I emailed my state party chair for the list of delegates who voted for Clinton, and she sent me the same tally sheet that was posted by the DNC secretary, saying that that was all they had received. How useless! Still no delegate by delegate count.

Anyone else more successful?

#376 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 7:43 pm

370 bobram
Forgive you?? You have all my praise and admiration!

#377 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 7:44 pm

dances – i don’t recall exactly, but i’ll scroll up and look, and will send to the ac when i find it. not to worry (yeah, right)

#378 warrior4hillary on 09.22.08 at 7:45 pm

Vote in the polls

http://www.sfgate.com/polls/

#379 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 7:45 pm

335 freddiebrown Is that woman frickin serious? never heard anyone I thought was further out in left field. Her and her husband are drunk on kool-aid spiked with STP or something. I think I’m goinfg to start calling him ‘Nero’. I’ve never seen anyone so absolutely out of touch with reality.

#380 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 7:45 pm

376 Anna7000

Don’t worry about it. I’ll scroll the blogs trolling for useful and missing links, etc.

#381 bobram on 09.22.08 at 7:46 pm

Gypsy already sent this to you – but anyone else able to give me suggestions on my letters to the TV Stations – asking them why the media does not pick up on following: (Also did not put into this format anything that can not be proven – we all know about the smears and race card – but could never prove it)
Each of these bullet points could be a story within itself for the TV stations.

Which heading most effective??

A.WHO IS THIS PERSON OBAMA:
B.Scary Things that go Bump In the Night:
C.The REAL Barack Obama.
D.Everything that you did not want to know:

. Flip Flops – abortion, gun control, Iraq troop withdrawal, campaign
financing, taxes (capital gain), FISA, economic plans, running for
President, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell

. Affiliations – Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayers, ACORN, David Kernell, George Soros, CPUSA, Khalidi,

. Inexerience – 143 Days in the US Senate – never voted against Iraq
War

. Debates – Avoids direct questions requiring direct answers – wants
to minimize his exposure to the American Public by avoiding debates

. Wages- Female Staff .77 cents to the dollar

. Berg Lawsuit

. Logan Act

. Voting Record – Present or not taking a stance – not a unifier -
voted
yes three times for babies born alive due to failed abortion be allowed
to die –

. International Experience – wants to sit down at the table with enemy
nations.

I like brief – I like to get their interest and hopefully will
research a little themselves to add on to it

#382 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 7:46 pm

#369 thecandypoem

WOW! Just WOW!

#383 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 7:47 pm

If this country is not in a depression or worse by the time the election gets here, we should all get on our knees and give thanks. Right now, this election is just about the least of our worries.

#384 bobram on 09.22.08 at 7:48 pm

Dances – ah shucks – t’aint nothing —- besides I am now able to predict polls from all this research – wait until you see what I come up with tomorrow – I KNOW the winner – and how he can win…

#385 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 7:48 pm

dances – found the two and sent them to the ac

#386 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 7:49 pm

327 Laurey4Hill Laurey You’ve got mail

Everyone, Laurey did alot of work and she actually has what I would call a Documentary that is worthy of publishing. It is excellent. She did major work on it!!

#387 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 7:49 pm

PUMAS

Watch #369 right now.

Bill, Bill, Bill…lol.

#388 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 7:50 pm

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/debate-watch-party-a

This woman is convinced she actually KNOWS something.

#389 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 7:51 pm

Can anyone sober even consider this woman as First Lady in the White House?

#390 bobram on 09.22.08 at 7:51 pm

1Gypsy you have mail – and please have Laurey send me her comparisons – THANK YOU LAUREY for your hard dedicated work.

#391 goabigirltx on 09.22.08 at 7:57 pm

President Bill Clinton on The View 9/22/08

Bill Clinton on The View 9-22-2008 part 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODoSotQmkKA

Bill Clinton on The View 9-22-2008 part 2 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIiLJIk32_0

Bill Clinton on The View 9-22-2008 part 3 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U08fA93lpEk

#392 Your northern neighbor on 09.22.08 at 7:57 pm

330 Laurey4Hill

Any Pumas interested in looking at my comparison of McCain and Obama which I put together to email to people en masse?
*********************************************
Laurey

I don’t know If I can add anything, but I sure would like to look at your comparison.
prowlnorth@gmail.com

#393 madazzhel on 09.22.08 at 7:58 pm

prowl done

#394 LizzyinCT on 09.22.08 at 7:59 pm

Bill O’Reilly is supposed to do an expose on “How close is Obama with radical extremists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn? The Obama Chronicles investigates!” 8pm and 11 pm tonight.

We’ll see how far O’Reilly really digs. I hope he doesn’t wimp out.

PS – prowl done

#395 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 8:03 pm

I did my prowl to NOW and immediately got back a membership enrolment form. Here is what I replied

“If you had read my email, you’d have noticed the tag line at the end. Why would I want to join your organization at this time in history.If you still believe in “fair treatment for women,” you’d have spokem up when Obama was denigrating Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin –both of whom are women who deserve our respect and the right to “equality and fair treatment” no matter which candidate you support. By the way, Obama does not believe in equal pay for women; have you regressed on that issue? Or maybe you no longer believe that a woman can be a good mother while she works or is it that you do not believe that a woman should be able to choose whether to have as many children as she wants. Once you were an important movement, NOW you mean nothing.”

NObama

#396 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 8:03 pm

Laurey You’ve got more mail

bobram You’re request has been forwarded

#397 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:05 pm

369 thecandypoem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98

Wow. Keep posting that. Every thread until all pUMAS have seen it.
That was an Endorsement for MCain. period.
GOtta love it. :)
ANd our girl Hill did NOT want to be vp. :)

#398 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 8:06 pm

OK my count is way down..every one go to my website!

http://puma-facts.com

LOL

#399 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 8:07 pm

I did a post the other day about the millenium bill obama/biden here is a link on what it costs. It supposedly will end World Poverty, while putting the United States in poverty. Here is the link

http://bearcreekledger.com/2008/02/14/obamas-global-tax-bill-s2433/

I received this email to ask a question regarding Global Poverty during the debate. There is a form you can fill out to send your question, here is the email if anyone interes

Hi Prplvette,

Only two questions about global poverty have been asked in the history of modern presidential debates, going back to Kennedy-Nixon in 1960. That’s less than 1 percent of all questions asked.

Change that shockingly low figure >>

The first debate at the University of Mississippi at Oxford, Mississippi, will focus on foreign policy and is only 9 days away. Now is the time to ask debate moderator Jim Lehrer to ask a question on the fight against global poverty.

This first debate will happen just one day after world leaders gather at the United Nations in New York for an emergency meeting on the Millennium Development Goals – the global pledge made in 2000 to halve extreme poverty and global disease by 2015.

Please, make sure that the issues being discussed at the United Nations in New York are also being raised with Senators Obama and McCain at the debate in Mississippi. We can’t afford to have another presidential debate that ignores extreme poverty and global disease.

Urge Jim Lehrer to ask how Obama and McCain will fight global poverty at the first debate >>
From Care2 Thank you,
LiAnna
Care2 and ThePetitionSite Team

Now, I am all for helping with global poverty, but we are facing our own US poverty right now, and IMHO, we do not need to be spending that kind of money, the taxpayers cannot afford anymore. We just got nailed for the bail outs right, how much do they think we can take?

#400 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:07 pm

I love the part.
Walters “Will MCain win?’
Bill “Yes, because I am a loyal democrat.” OMG. What a slap to CArpathia. :)

#401 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:08 pm

#387 Alice1943

What is with that nurse look?

I fixed it up a little.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/NurseObamacopy.jpg

#402 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:09 pm

#397 Caracal Carrie
There. Went ten times. :)

#403 LizzyinCT on 09.22.08 at 8:09 pm

catsarepumas #394

High five!!! This is what I replied, when I received that N.O.W. enrollment email:

“”" I have NO interest in joining the N.O.W. operatives of the UNdemocrat party. Shame on you for condoning a corrupt, sexist process that elevated an unqualified candidate who is no friend to women. Shame on you for your hypocrisy in supporting only those women who buy your Roe v. Wade fearmongering. Shame on you for not supporting rights for ALL women. N.O.W. is an obstacle to true feminism and, guess what ….. you’re obsolete.

Don’t bother contacting me again. “”"

Felt good. :D

#404 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:10 pm

400 shampoovta
Now I will have nightmares.
You have completely destroyed all my nurse fantasies.

#405 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 8:10 pm

sorry, here is the link for the petition, I am sick, going to bed now. Sorry if post is messed up :(

#406 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 8:10 pm

Woot((((snow)))))

#407 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 8:10 pm

dam, too much cold medicine,

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/718205238?z00m=16826693

#408 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 8:11 pm

Feel better PRP dont make me drive 2 hours with soup

#409 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 8:11 pm

snowtiger – i didn’t hear that. i thought clinton was asked if obama would win and he said, “yes” (as he’s been saying), but not because i’m a loyal dem.

???

#410 LotusBoy on 09.22.08 at 8:11 pm

#400 shampoovta – out of my lurk mode after 2 days.
I saw this video just now.
This is the worst Nurse look I have ever seen.
Man what is going to happen when this ugly duckling sits as a First lady
I am not going to apologize for my language – This is what happens when OBUM shows his sexism shit and give it back to him/his..

#411 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:11 pm

#403 snowtiger

LOL she has got your meds ready.

800 cc of Kool Aid.

#412 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:12 pm

A friend just sent this to me. I chose to be “o’ and let Hillary shoot the crap outof him. Rofl.
http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/presidential-presidency

#413 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 8:12 pm

prplvette85 – feel better.

#414 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:13 pm

#409 LotusBoy

Oh but don’t forget, his wife is off limits. LOL

#415 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:14 pm

#410 shampoovta
AAgghhhhhhhh.

#416 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:15 pm

#411 snowtiger

Love miniclip grate flash games! Good site!

#417 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:15 pm

#408 Anna7000
Yes Anna he says it. Leans over to Barbara and says because Im a loyal democrat. I will go get the time, BRB.

#418 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 8:15 pm

#342 Shampoo.. THANK YOU so much for putting that link on about the Green Bay Obama visit! As you know, I was at the Mac-Palin one in the same center last week. This was very interesting. For the one I was at the seats were not only packed but the floor space was standing shoulder to shoulder. So BO didn’t get that many? I guess I’m surprised considering what a hotbed of liberalism I’m in here….. anyway, THANK YOU again for posting that link!

#419 TerryDo on 09.22.08 at 8:16 pm

356 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 7:31 pm #345 snowtiger
I lack ovaries – so I didn’t dare watch – I have to go help unload a 40 foot container this evening. Yes, I sweat for my funds.

For those interested, Michelle Obama is advocating a house party during the debates to convert more people.
Something like the home partie that we talked about – except that Obama’s campaign took it way, way further.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/debate-watch-party-a
***************************

Something like a home party, more like an
“In your face caucus party, wherein if you are dare cast an opposing opinion, you would be quickly elbowed”

First Obama’s campaign stole all of Hillary great policies and solutions , now they are stealing PumaPac’s great ideas.

#420 indy on 09.22.08 at 8:17 pm

It seems Obama’s plan to have his surrogates disinvite Sarah Palin to the Ahmadinejad Rally backfired on him.

The rally turned into an Anti-Obama Rally. Some Jewish people felt that if Palin were there they would have had thousands more at the rally.

There were Anti-Obama signs at the rally.

Here’s the article and video:

http://wcbstv.com/campaign08/united.nations.general.2.823131.html

#421 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:19 pm

Anna 3:37 through 3:41
And I meant he said no, because I am a loyal democrat. Typo monster got me.

#422 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:20 pm

#417 KarenWI

Trick is to put in the search bar News & Politics, then

Sort by:Relevance▼
Channels
Relevance
Date Added <<<<<<<<<<<<<do this one
View Count
Rating

You will see all new videos added and not just a few.

You Tube is very hard to sift threw.

#423 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 8:20 pm

#415 shampoovta
A relaxing way to take a break.
Must go for a wahile. BBL.

#424 atypical on 09.22.08 at 8:24 pm

Your northern neighbor!!!

Please e-mail a copy of McCain vs Obama to me if you will:
plainjane31@gmail.com

#425 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 8:25 pm

#407 Caracal Carrie – Thanks Carrie, that sure does sound good though! Think I will just lurk for a while, then fall asleep…good nite

#426 LotusBoy on 09.22.08 at 8:26 pm

#413 shampoovta – accepted. An actual ugly duckling would actually be prettier than Michelle but for a sc** like BO this sweetie of his is what he can have
It will take time for me to get back to normality after I read about Mr Palin’s alleged rape of his daughter
Thank god I am not BarryObummer’s colonoscopy doctor

#427 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:27 pm

#419 indy

Good link! Grate story!!

#428 thecandypoem on 09.22.08 at 8:28 pm

Thank you Bill Clinton, thank you Bill Clinton. You rock! No Barack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98

#429 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 8:30 pm

I noticed that Mama mentioned “paying for the lights” on the blog she wrote a few days ago (Saturday morning?).
I know we paid for Denver (most have seen the basic accounting), and we’ve been encouraged to contribute to the Real Democrats USA for their anti-obama campaign, and for Denver’s ad campaign, and numerous other campaigns and causes, and it’s rough for me to ask , but, I’m wondering if we all of us who can affod to, would mind contributing to “keeping teh lights on”? The blog has monthly fees associtaed with it, and we use it as our base, to connect and communicate, and support each other… it’s important to all of us.

So, I’m asking for all who can afford to, to pitch in to keep it going. Thanks for listening.

#430 catsarepumas on 09.22.08 at 8:30 pm

#402 LizzyinCT –
high fives back at you—:)

#431 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 8:31 pm

Thanks for that “tip” for youtube shampoovta!

#432 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 8:31 pm

WATCH OREILLY NOW

#433 prplvette85 on 09.22.08 at 8:33 pm

#412 Anna7000= Thanks, maybe tomorrow, sure hope so!

#434 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:33 pm

Look what was floating around on
http://labs.digg.com/swarm/

This is an NRA add

http://www.gunbanobama.com/default.aspx?NavGuid=5b2961fd-7987-4cbf-9555-388b8fe4fb8c&ID=1284268&ArchiveGuid=430d7335-d158-44f5-aab6-bb7d1226f3fa

#435 Middle age female on 09.22.08 at 8:35 pm

309 KarenWI – I do not have a link for the info that in WI the place was only 2/3rds full – I saw it on Fox this afternoon, and they showed the empty seats several times while BO was talking. Then afterwards it was mentioned by Major who is embedded with BO. I tivo’d the program, so I ran it back several times just to see how many empty seats, and there were a lot.

#436 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 8:35 pm

snowtiger – wow. thanks. you’re saving my sanity today!

#437 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 8:36 pm

Oreilly sucks – he manages to hype up big stories and then – pfffttt – nothing .

#438 normapapuma on 09.22.08 at 8:36 pm

Email to Nikki: I am a proud PUMA voting McPalin because
1) Repubs may have different priorities, but they still care about Americans as much as Democrats do.
2) Because I choose to vote for their candidate doesn’t mean I change MY priorities. I can still work for my issues and pressure that candidate to support them.
3) Enabling a dysfunctional Party is bad for America, bad for me, and bad for women!

#439 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:38 pm

#436 TexasTigress

Ya after all these years of the Libs making him out to be a monster,.. zip, nada, nothing.

Liberals get to worked up about stuff.

#440 atypical on 09.22.08 at 8:38 pm

396 snowtiger

Do you know of a link to the whole View interview with Bill Clinton?

#441 FL_Debby_Puma on 09.22.08 at 8:39 pm

Hiya Pumas…Rollingstone can count on me not buying another mag and also some friends cancelled their mags also…dont suprise me the junk he writes…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Taibbi

#442 LandiPUMA on 09.22.08 at 8:39 pm

Billiejo, Dances, etc.
That’s great about organizing to go to NV from CA! Will look into an action plan for the Action Center.

I’ve been preparing to go on business trip today. By the time I get to the hotel & get settled in the room tonight most of the nation will be in bed.
Wish I had more time to develop ideas here today…

Thanks freddiebrown & others… and emme, Glad you’re calling for Mac in PA! It’s a crucial state!

I’ll have more time this week after today for activism. Will check into O’s & Mac’s site for phoning.

#443 BarbNOBO on 09.22.08 at 8:39 pm

I received a copy of More Magazine today at my office with MO on the cover trying to look like Jackie O. I could not bear to put it in the waiting room….Disgusting!!!!
http://www.more.com/more-women/politics/michelle-obama/

#444 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 8:40 pm

#390 goabigirltx
Thanks for the links to the Bill Clinton interview. Wow! I really see him casting a vote for McCain. Great interview!

#445 LotusBoy on 09.22.08 at 8:40 pm

#311 kat in your hat – Good Video.
Wish after OBUM loses in Nove 4th dusk this garbage can keep his 3 legs in the attic in South Chicago and not show up to the world for 100 years

#446 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 8:42 pm

Article: “Dukakis: McCain using same race tactics as ‘Willie Horton’ ad”… sounds to me like he’s a bit mixed-up. It’s Obama who is “playing the race card” not McCain!

http://www.politickerma.com/jeremyjacobs/1251/dukakis-mccain-using-same-race-tactics-willie-horton-ad

#447 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 8:44 pm

Did half of the equal pay prowl. I sent a letter to NOW. I didn’t send an e-mail to BO because the comment form said I had to include my street address. By the way, did people notice BO doesn’t have anything related to women under issues (except “reproductive rights”)? He even lists “Amtrak” as an issue. Are a lot of people concerned with Amtrak at this moment? Geesh! -Lara08

#448 yellowMcpuma08 on 09.22.08 at 8:44 pm

Hello lovely Pumas! I think the big problem with this guy matt tabbi is: he is so jealous of we the ladies, he wish he were a woman ,…. J.K.

#449 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 8:45 pm

For Murphy and the pac…..

Donation Details

Donation amount: $10.00 USD
Total: $10.00 USD
Purpose: keeping the lights on!
Contributor: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

#450 Your northern neighbor on 09.22.08 at 8:47 pm

423 atypical

I will email you a copy of Laurey’s McCain vs Obama comparison as soon as it is available to me. :smile:

#451 BarbNOBO on 09.22.08 at 8:47 pm

I hope this is not the October Surprise!!
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/october_surprise_attack/2008/09/22/133139.html?s=al&promo_code=6B0C-1

#452 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:51 pm

#445 KarenWI

DUKAKIS,… still losing in 2008.

#453 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 8:51 pm

BarbNOBO – Or, you could put it in the office with a bunch of PUMApac flyers in between every page!

#454 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 8:53 pm

Hi all….am working on prowls. Dare I say I posted on that dreaded undemocratic website…my post…

I am at the age when I just can’t believe the crap that is written about people. Every single one of you should be ashamed of yourselves. This is what our country has become? A bunch of low life computer bloggers? Some day you will “hopefully” grow up and see how stupid you are. Yes, stupid. No respect. What did your parents teach you? Your disgraceful. Your a disgrace to our country.

#455 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:53 pm

#450 BarbNOBO

Hope not. Yikes.

#456 bellecat on 09.22.08 at 8:54 pm

Can someone help me to see this right?

Sarah Palin is a “fraud” because?

But Obama is “not a fraud” because?????

#457 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 8:54 pm

#450 BarbNOBO

I’m certainly no foreign policy expert, but wouldn’t a terrorist attack before the election send people running in droves to vote for McCain and his more reliable experience in national security? Don’t the terrorists want Obummer in the oval office? I don’t see how this would benefit the elections in their favor.

#458 LotusBoy on 09.22.08 at 8:54 pm

#442 BarbNOBO – Saw that. I am no fashion expert but honestly what little I have seen of MO and of Jacquline I can tell you MO will have to try 1 million dresses before she can be watchable by normal standards.
The kind of clothes she wears, I promise, had I been a woman, I would never even by in a Flea market
PUMA – Give me some more time till I get over my fury over liberal bums (now I add Deal or No Deal Bald head and many after yesterday’s Emmy’s) continuing to stoop low. I know their stupidity is only helping McCain but I still can’t bite my tongue without ranting here..

#459 ipotter on 09.22.08 at 8:55 pm

#442 BarbNOBO You brave soul. Afraid it would have gone straight to the trash if I was in your position.

#460 GBPuma on 09.22.08 at 8:55 pm

“Cross off North Dakota”
well the Obomassiah packed up another state and closed the doors and went running home to “mommie”(Pelosi) saying ….”they don’t like me….waaa….waaa”……LOL

Well fellow Puma’s I forced myself to go to the Freakshow in Green Bay today……and I will give you the full playback when I wake up from a very long nap…….because he really knocked me out with BORDOM….he needs to just pack up WI too.

#461 LotusBoy on 09.22.08 at 8:56 pm

#457 LotusBoy – I meant buy not by.
When the rage subsides, the writing might improve

#462 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 8:56 pm

448 michelle47

Way to go!!
I know they’ll appreciate your contribution!

#463 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 8:57 pm

#371 TexasTigress
I will give Dances a smack!!!! Oops not PC but true.
We have to be able to understand boundaries!!

Texas and Gypsy
send me an email I have a picture for you.

PUMAs
I am hoping to motivate you to action, and hoping that the collective we can move mountains.

I believe that this is what life is meant to be. Each of us must put food on the table, make sure that the children brush their teeth and do their homework, try to keep a roof over every head and clean sheets on every bed. But when all that gets done – or only half gets done – we have to answer to a belief that there is more. That m voice can and should be heard.

So get your little PUMA butts in action.

Mama

#464 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 8:59 pm

448 michelle47
You know what? I have a few bumperstickers:
-Howard I’m not coming home
-PUMA Democrat
and
NOBAMA with teh PUMA PAC logo.

I’d be happy to send you a couple as a thank you for your contribution.

How about it?

#465 MamaPuma on 09.22.08 at 8:59 pm

Oh my!
Look at the time!
Waaaaaaay past my bed time
Mama

#466 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 9:00 pm

#459 GBPuma

LOL! :)

And this little piggy went wee…wee…wee all the way home.

#467 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:00 pm

464 MamaPuma

heh…

#468 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 9:02 pm

Jon Meacham of Newsweek hired a DailyKos blogger/writer to bring something to the table for this magazine (Markos Masolitos) spelling??

Meacham was on FOX and doesn’t see anything wrong with the DailyKos. I sent an email to them stating what I thought of DailyKos, etc.

webeditors@newsweek.com

#469 Your northern neighbor on 09.22.08 at 9:02 pm

459 GBPuma

How was the attendance there?

#470 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 9:04 pm

I did it for you Dances, also for Murphy and all the others that work so very hard here. I lurk non-stop and only post here and there, but I do all the prowls and plenty of GROWLING on my own all day everyday of the week. NOBAMA ever for me and I work everyone I know over on a daily basis, they all think I’m nuts at this point, but hey they are not voting Obama either, nuttiness pays off from time to time.

#471 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:04 pm

#390 goabigirltx

Thank you! Bill Clinton is the best President in my generation, my personal opinion.

In 2000, Bill Clinton stated VP Al Gore will be our next President. Like other volunteers I was so excited, I work twice harder for Gore – VP Gore LOST against Bush.

In 2004, Bill Clinton stated again John Kerry will be our next President, as a volunteer for the Democratic Party I was excited. Kerry lost against Bush.

Would I believe him now when he said NObama will win? Hell shit NO!

True, the Democratic Party have new registered Democrats, but the report last July, the Democratic Party have lost about 3 or 4% Democratic members. Where did these 3 to 4% Democrats went? Why did they left the Democratic Party? These group of people amounting to millions are the BASE of the Democratic Party, who always go out and vote rain or shine even with freaking ice up to their waist line. These group of people also are RELIABLE to turn out in every precint in USA and wait for hours on long lines to cast their vote.

These group of people who left the democratic are now independent voters, these are the people who will decide the outcome in general election who’ll be the next President. I’m one of those independent voters, I left the Democratic Party June 5, 2008.

Now lets start the subject in relation to Bill Clinton. President Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, an executive level positon, his experience was Domestic, that means domestic policies; economy, state security and so on and so forth. When he ran for President, he choose Senator Al Gore of TN to be his VP; Gore was well verse with Foreign Policy which Clinton lacks. By Choosing Al Gore, Clinton balance what is lacking on his experience to be Commander In Chief of United States of America. Between him and Al Gore, they’ve covered both areas which is a MUST for President of USA.

When Senator John McCain choose Governor Sarah Palin as his VP, it was a VERY SMART MOVE on his part. McCain is a US Senator like Obama, he doesn’t have any executive level experience which is a MUST for a President, he’d be dealing more with Domestic Policies than Foreign policies which is McCain’s field as US Senator for 20 odd years. By choosing Palin as his VP, it balanced out what he is lacking. Another thing, when he choose Palin, he have a VP who is a maverick, a reformist with a track record for reforming her own state even going after her own party which is rather unique and never heard in this county.

This is the BIGGEST problem of the Democratic Party with NObama/Biden ticket. Both of this men do NOT have track record running an executive level position which deals with Domestic Policies like economics. Both of these men are in the US senate, LEGISLATING BILLS to be signed INTO LAW by the President. They don’t know how to run a state, how much more a country! They don’t know what it’s like to balance a budget in the state level, you need to be in the executive level position to do that. In fact, among the four of them; NObama, NObiden, McCain, Palin, ONLY Sarah Palin has EXECUTIVE LEVEL EXPERIENCE. McCain is on the safe side on this, he has Sarah Palin with experience to run a state and rich oil state to advice him when it pertains to Domestic policies. With our economy right now in bad shape, I would trust McCain/Palin to make the right decision than NObama/Biden who do NOT have an ounce of experience in executive level position. Writing Bills and sponsoring or co-sponsoring them is easy, NO ONE is responsble, a Governor is responsible for EVERYTHING whenever he/she affix her signature that includes signing bills into LAW passed by the State Senate.

Who would I trust to be our next President? Senator John McCain, his VP is a GOVERNOR. That’s the reason we seldom elect a US Senator for President, always a GOVERNOR due to the factgubernatorialship is an EXECUTIVE LEVEL position like President of USA in the FEDERAL LEVEL.

#472 jenniforhillary on 09.22.08 at 9:04 pm

back after 12 days ….. ike was like nobama — a fucking nightmare!!

#473 BarbNOBO on 09.22.08 at 9:05 pm

#452 Anna7000….I didn’t put it out yet…but i will tomorrow with flyers…one of our fellow Pumas in the office said she would be happy to put a mustache and horns on it for me!! LOL

#474 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 9:05 pm

Not sure if this is on the blog yet, found it on the Drudge.
Big Dog and it made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary did not want VP, he speaks so well…. bravo to the Big Guy!

#475 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 9:06 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98

Forgot the link

#476 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:06 pm

469 michelle47

Thank you.

and… so….
do you want the bumperstickers or not?? lol

#477 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 9:06 pm

Dances, please send them my way woohoo!!!!!!!!

#478 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 9:06 pm

michele47 – you have exactly the right attitude ! We should all be nice to Dances , even though she says such mean and hateful things to our dear mama . Maybe , oneday , dances will be receptive of all our love and kind thoughts and change her evil , evil ways .

#479 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:07 pm

471 jenniforhillary

Welcome back! Glad you’re okay!

#480 BarbNOBO on 09.22.08 at 9:07 pm

#456 notfollowinthepiedpiper….I would think Bin Laden would want BO not McCain…but your right McCain would have the edge if this was to occur!

#481 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:08 pm

477 TexasTigress
Tigress, Tigress, Tigress…
Just for that? Go make a contribution! : P
lol

#482 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 9:09 pm

#462 MamaPuma
Mama PUMA, you are so darn cute even when you ‘get tough’………..((((Mama)))))

Sweet dreams.

#483 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:09 pm

476 michelle47

Will mail them off tomorrow!
Send your mailing address to myname at geemailcom.
I’ll destroy the email once I address the envelope.

#484 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:09 pm

Barb – sounds like a plan.

Jenni – Wow, it’s so great to see your name on the blog again. Hope you’re doing ok.

Anyone know what happened to goandersen, antifish, firebelle, dragonfly, tree, or how bmw60 is doing post knee-surgery?

#485 1gypsy4mc on 09.22.08 at 9:11 pm

MamaPuma You’ve got mail….you can’t go to bed yet!!!

#486 warrior4hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:11 pm

I got this DVD in the mail today called “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against The West

It was very scary! Have any of you got this DVD free in the mail?

After watching it I went to the web site here

http://www.radicalislam.org/

#487 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 9:12 pm

Just for fun OMGROFLMAO!

PUMAS in burkas? I love this new womens lib. LOL!!

Saudi women beat peeping-Toms at mosque

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/09/22/57047.html

#488 Your northern neighbor on 09.22.08 at 9:13 pm

450 BarbNOBO

It is sad to say this – but if that is the October Surprise, it would be game over for BO.

#489 jenniforhillary on 09.22.08 at 9:13 pm

We just got internet back–I have 1200 messages to go through…will be back tomorrow. I missed you all (had puma withdrawal).

PUMA PARTIES in texas…I spoke to over 300 people over the last week (and got CONVERTS)…had nothing else to do:)

#490 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:14 pm

483 Anna7000
Dragonfly was blogging here last night. I always appreciate her comments.
Was thinking about Tree again yesterday and this morning.

#491 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:14 pm

RE: BERKELEY E-MAIL FROM “FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS OF BILL AYERS” (yes, such a group actually exists!)

Finally made my way through a lot of hoops trying to get to the right person to speak to about UC policies and legalities re: staff sending out political e-mails. I hope to be hearing from the appropriate attorney soon. Will keep everyone posted, if anyone’s interested.

#492 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:14 pm

RE: BERKELEY E-MAIL FROM “FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS OF BILL AYERS” (yes, such a group actually exists!)

Finally made my way through a lot of hoops trying to get to the right person to speak to about UC policies and legalities re: staff sending out political e-mails. I hope to be hearing from the appropriate attorney soon. Will keep everyone posted, if anyone’s interested.

#493 normapapuma on 09.22.08 at 9:15 pm

#437 Trying to do the prowl-

Well my email to Nikki came back undeliverable and I couldn’t figure out how to post at that wretched site. At least I gave out PUMA business cards today!

#494 jenniforhillary on 09.22.08 at 9:15 pm

Anna….i missed you all and the lack of news. But I did my part and went door to door with the PUMA anti-obama message….

It is a real mess here…beyond belief. We were without electricity for 1 week and without internet for 12 days. Felt like 1200.

Have to go through messages, read all the prowls. Do them late but better late than never…

40 some days until VICTORY (i.e. NOBAMA will be DONE)!!

#495 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:15 pm

#488 jenniforhillary

Welcome back jenni!!!!! Great to see you. :)

#496 Your northern neighbor on 09.22.08 at 9:15 pm

Dances

Speaking of Tree, also where are goanderson and antifish?

#497 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 9:15 pm

485 warrior4hillary………..I got that in the mail too. First I wondered where “they” got my name.

I have not watched it…..not sure I want too!

#498 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:16 pm

thanks, dances. i missed a whole batch of posts between last night and today. i miss dragonfly’s posts and i’m so glad to hear she’s been around. thanks for posting the news. lifts my spirits.

#499 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 9:17 pm

anna – Thanks for bring up BMW – I wish I had her address so I could send a card …
PUMAS – let me tell you something about that ANGEL BMW … a long time ago on the board someone mentioned that they were having financial troubles , and they had a similar name to mine – the next day when I was on the board , BMW told me to email her and she said it was urgent . I e-mailed her and she responded that she wanted to pay to keep my electricity on … It wasn’t me , and I think she figured out who it was , but I had only spoken with that wonderful Puma a few times prior to that interaction .
Everyone knows that she is an inspirational blogger and an unwavering activist , but I wanted you all to know that our BMW is also an angel …

#500 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 9:17 pm

#486:

I LOVE IT!!!!

Geesh, way way better than hearing about one of those women getting stoned to death for sneezing wrong.

#501 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:18 pm

jenni – take care. you must be completely exhausted. i can’t believe you’ve still been taking action, going door-to-door. you are something! i hope you’ll take a few days to settle down and settle in. we had a few puma’s in ohio that were also without power for a week or more. what a mess. but, i’m so glad you’re back!

#502 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:20 pm

texas – nice story. i surely hope bmw60 is doing ok. knee surgery can be a slow recovery. hopefully things are moving in the right direction with her physical therapy. hopefully no post-surgical complications.

#503 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 9:20 pm

I think goandersen ( clink) and trish have a website . I think it was posted on that thread where Murphy posted all of our puma friend links . I miss go … :(

#504 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 9:21 pm

#459 GBPuma…. you were at the Obama rally at the Reisch Center? Were you also at the McCain rally there? I was…. with all those people I wouldn’t have been able to see you there though, LOL…. I wasn’t going into “the Lion’s Den” by going in where the Obama nuts were, like you did! That took courage!

#505 Middle age female on 09.22.08 at 9:21 pm

459 GBPuma – anxious to hear about how the BO went. From what I saw on tv, and heard, the place was only about 2/3rds full.

#506 LatinPuma on 09.22.08 at 9:23 pm

Was this posted yet? It tells who the culprits who orchestrated the Sarah Palin smears. Surprise? You won’t be after you read this!

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php

#507 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 9:24 pm

WB, jenni. I’m so glad you are back and safe but sorry for any mess you have to contend with.

#508 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 9:24 pm

Dances

Thank you I can’t wait to recieve them.

#509 catsrlove on 09.22.08 at 9:24 pm

I don’t know if this has been discussed yet, but I was very disappointed to hear that President Clinton went on The View today.

Those witches should be fired – all of they. Why would Bill do that after the disrespect they showed John McCain and his wife.?

So maybe they don’t like McCain or his policies. You don’t disrespect a war hero. A POW that had nearly every bone in his body broken serving his Country..

Guess Whoopie doesn’t like white men that she isn’t sleeping with. Sorry, that was nasty, but true..

#510 halligan on 09.22.08 at 9:24 pm

McCain fundraising more?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/breaking-news/story/697231.html

#511 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:25 pm

Texas Tigress – Yeah, but I wish Go and Trish would come visit. I miss them both. Really good people. Good vibes. Funny. Helpful. Just all around great. Miss their energy.

#512 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 9:26 pm

jenni – YOU ROCK !!!!! Glad you’re back !!!!!!

#513 halligan on 09.22.08 at 9:26 pm

Anna,

Where’s go and trish?

#514 halligan on 09.22.08 at 9:26 pm

I miss Go and trish, too.

#515 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 9:27 pm

#493 jenniforhillary

Welcome back! We got electricity on the 6th day and internet was still ok. Felt sooooo disconnected! Awesome work in the down time! All I accomplished was roof patching and tree cutting, feel like a real slacker after your report :-)

#516 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:27 pm

505 LatinPuma

Not to put you on the spot or anything….
but, if you want to write, or copy and paste teh essnce of that article… I think it would make a great flyer for distribution.
If you’re willing, send to: actioncenter@pumapac.org

Thank you in advance.

#517 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 9:27 pm

The Bums over at the undemocratic underground blog deleted my message…so, I’m going to post it again here. I was #59….*poof*

I am at the age when I just can’t believe the crap that is written about people. Every single one of you should be ashamed of yourselves. This is what our country has become? A bunch of low life computer bloggers? Some day you will “hopefully” grow up and see how stupid you are. Yes, stupid. No respect. What did your parents teach you? Your disgraceful. Your a disgrace to our country.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7141749&mesg_id=7141755

#518 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 9:28 pm

#509 I don’t think anyone can win presidency without FL and that McCain raised twice as much as BO there says something.

#519 TerryDo on 09.22.08 at 9:28 pm

400 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 8:08 pm #387 Alice1943

What is with that nurse look?

I fixed it up a little.
******************

That is her, I am getting ready to give America an enema.

#520 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 9:28 pm

anna -I see Trish often , but I haven’t seen go on here since before the hurricane . I was hoping that she would be here when I got my electricity back … Sucks , but she is one strong woman and you can count on the fact that she is still out there fighting !!! :)

#521 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 9:29 pm

#509 halligan
Those were last month’s numbers I think. The fact that McCain outpaced BO 2 to 1 is impressive and encouraging!

#522 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 9:30 pm

Clinton on the view made it clear that Hillary would have been a better VP choice (we know he meant POTUS)….

He also stood up for Palin. He’s a great guy!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

#523 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 9:31 pm

#518 TerryDo
“getting ready to give America an enema.”

:lol: :lol:

Not if we have anything to say about it!

#524 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 9:31 pm

Saddleback Mashup With Obama on Abortion (VIDEO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGFPR6H6aE

#525 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 9:32 pm

Governor Sarah Palin Draws Crowd of 60,000
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/sugar_n_spicea_meeting_pl/2008/09/governor-sarah.html

(wow)

#526 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:34 pm

#509 halligan

He’s fundraising for the Republican National Committee not for his own campaign. :)

#527 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:35 pm

I have several bumperstickers from Denver.

I’d be happy to send a bumpersticker or two to anyone who makes a contribution to puma pac before I sign off for the night. We need to kjeep the blog lights on!

-Howard I’m not coming home
-PUMA Democrat
and
NOBAMA
and they all have the Puma PAC logo on them.

C’mon, lurkers, don’t be shy! ;)

Going once… going twice… bettah hurry!

#528 GBPuma on 09.22.08 at 9:35 pm

#503 KarenWI and 504 Middle age female

Just a quick follow up before I totally passout her from the “traumatic” event…..I’ll have the full notes on tomorrows comments.

But as far as it goes it was only less then 1/2 full…I counted between 3-4,000….thew Resch holds over 10,000+….and they had been expecting 10,000 …..reports are saying 6,000 but that isn’t what I personally counted, buit then people did leave even before he got there………….
look in tomorrow for my full notes on the “Freakshow”
later

#529 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 9:35 pm

#518 TerryDo

Squeel like a pig! LOL

#530 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:35 pm

BTW, NObama couldn’t be bothered to raise funds for the DNC and wouldn’t share his money with Democratic lead Senate. Reid asked him if he could give $10 million for Democratic Party to gain more senate seats, NObama flatly REFUSE.

#531 halligan on 09.22.08 at 9:36 pm

525 Asian

How sweet of him? Is the RNC helping him at all?

#532 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 9:37 pm

Right on, Sean Hannity. Obama IS the only one who’s brought up ‘race’. And, Man, can you ever tapdance, Al Sharpton!!!!

#533 halligan on 09.22.08 at 9:37 pm

How does one get to Trish and Go’s website?

#534 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 9:38 pm

529 Asian4Hillary NObama prolly wants to APPOINT his own congress.

#535 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 9:39 pm

I tried to post again on that nasty ole undemocratic underground thread…here’s the message I received.

ERROR: Your posting privileges have been revoked. If you do not know why this has happened, please take a moment to read our Message Board Rules.

If, after reading our rules, you still cannot figure out why your posting privileges were revoked, then it may have been an error. If so, you may appeal by sending an email to mail@democraticunderground.com. Please include your forum username.

We do occasionally reinstate posting privileges for members who have been banned, after a cooling-off period has passed. If you would like to have your privileges reinstated you may state your case by sending an email to mail@democraticunderground.com. Please include your forum username.

We read all correspondence sent to us. If you do not get a response to your appeal, it is because your request was denied.

*********************************************

Well, I sent my email…..hehehe….

Can’t take it can you? Someone has a different opinion than your sick obamanots and you can’t take it. I didn’t want to post on your nasty old blog anyway…

Hey, just in case you didn’t know…your an Asshole with an Asshole thread!

Go get PLUCKED!

Devil worshiper!

NOBAMA/NOBIDEN/NOVEMBER
NOWAY

*********************************************

Ahem, their email address is above for anyone else who wants to give them a piece of PUMA!

#536 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 9:39 pm

Does anybody know the answer (or how to get the answer) about why the Rasmussen Reports poll numbers only show “match-up WITH leaners” after McCain started taking the lead. I wonder if they aren’t showing the actual numbers because they’re not favorable to BO and they show the numbers with leaners so they can skew it in his favor. Why else would they hide the actual numbers?

#537 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:40 pm

532 halligan
I’m looking for it … for you

#538 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 9:40 pm

I just received an e-mail from MO informing me that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. I didn’t know BO’s voting record. Found this info. -Lara08

“Obama often says that McCain voted 90% of the time with Bush. What he doesn’t say is that Obama himself voted 88% of the time with Bush and even voted for the Cheney energy plan. Hillary didn’t and neither did McCain.

What they don’t tell you is that McCain voted 97% of the time with the Democrats and that he has the worst conservative voting record of any Republican. He voted liberal 20% of the time.” http://www.redhotandbluepolitics.com

#539 GoHillaryGo on 09.22.08 at 9:41 pm

I am so proud to be a PUMA Democrat. I want a Puma Democrat bumper sticker. I will donate. let me know what to do.

do you have my email. habs2u at yahoo.com

Thanks

GoHillaryGo

#540 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 9:43 pm

#537 Lara08 it never ceases to amaze me how Obama’s team is managing to convince people that McCain would be a third Bush term, when he and Bush were at each other’s throats most of the time! Also, why do you think a lot of republican leaders were extremely unhappy when McCain won the nomination and didn’t cheer up until he picked Palin? Until he ran for president and won the nomination he was more popular with the democrats than the republicans, LOL. With that history how people can possibly belive that garbage about him voting with Bush 90% of the time is beyond my comprehension!

#541 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:44 pm

#530 halligan

YES! But McCain is helping them more, that says a lot about McCain.

#533 Alice1943

Oh Yes! He’s the adopted son of Nancy Pelosi!

BTW, sugar and spice is fantastic! She was one time in blogtalk radio, terrific lady.

I think this is terrific; “Four days to the first presidential debate. I pray that McCain mops the floor with Obama’s teleprompter addicted ass. –SUGAR“. It made me laugh when I read it. :lol: :lol:

#542 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:44 pm

538 GoHillaryGo

Just click on teh puma pac contribution link on teh right hand side of this page… upper right.
Then send your mailing address to me at gmaildotcom

#543 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 9:44 pm

If Obama loses it will most likely be cuz he doesn’t know how to speak. Everytime I hear him he sounds like some belligerent drunk in the back of the bar talking down to everyone else. And it seems like his speeches involve badmouthing McCain or Sarah more than anything else, especially not talking about HOW he will do anything to correct everything he thinks is wrong with America. He just plain obnoxious!

#544 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 9:45 pm

Speaking of the debate on friday, anybody know what channel(s) it’s going to be on, and the time?

#545 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 9:46 pm

Are they going to allow teleprompters at the debates?

#546 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 9:46 pm

Voter fraud coming to Cleveland.

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/17529868/detail.html

#547 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:46 pm

#534 bythelake

Oh my goodness!!!!! YOu’re sooooooo naughty! ahahahah!

I love it!!!!!!

#548 TerryDo on 09.22.08 at 9:47 pm

Atypical perhaps you can check out goabigirltx’s post listed below that might help…

439 atypical on 09.22.08 at 8:38 pm
396 snowtiger
Do you know of a link to the whole View interview with Bill Clinton?

390 goabigirltx on 09.22.08 at 7:57 pm
President Bill Clinton on The View 9/22/08
Bill Clinton on The View 9-22-2008 part 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODoSotQmkKA
Bill Clinton on The View 9-22-2008 part 2 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIiLJIk32_0
Bill Clinton on The View 9-22-2008 part 3 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U08fA93lpEk

#549 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:47 pm

Halligan

http://voicesofvoters.myeweb.net

#550 Pookie on 09.22.08 at 9:47 pm

Prowls done!

#551 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 9:48 pm

Karen , Bush is a Moron and a liar . (period) No one believes a freaking word that comes out of that idiots mouth and I would GLADLY have him in office for 4 more years instead of Obama because at least “no one believes a freakin word that comes out of his mouth “! some people actually BELIEVE Obama and THAT is scary !!!! :)

#552 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 9:48 pm

546 Asian4Hillary…..I had a great teacher….my mother.

#553 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:48 pm

By the way, the schedule for the Presidential and VP debates is posted at the Action Center… Elections section

http://pumapac.org/action_center.html

#554 Luckyseven on 09.22.08 at 9:49 pm

Isn’t interesting that Michelle Nobama is pushing house parties with a scripted message on a video which can be edited. I guess that they are afraid of how she would tell people to have house parties in person. Maybe she would reveal that nobama wants women on one side and men on the other.!!!!

I had posted #360 about state suits relating to challenging bo’s right to be on the ballot. Does anyone know about the validity or time frame of such suits?

#555 atypical on 09.22.08 at 9:49 pm

#284 carrie
Do you have the original links from the two newspapers? I have this and I will look for more I have stashed, if you want.

Benedict Obama Strikes Again!!

OBAMA IS DENYING!!!
BECAUSE
OBAMA IS LYING!!!

FOX NEWS- CAMPAIGN DENIAL!! NO SUCH DISCUSSION EVER TOOK PLACE
Barack Obama’s campaign denied a New York Post report Monday that said the Democratic presidential candidate privately tried to persuade Iraqi political leaders to stall an agreement on scaling back American troops in Iraq while publicly campaigning for a speedy withdrawal.
Obama’s request for a delay was a major theme of his talks with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said in an interview with the Post.
Obama also tried to persuade the U.S. commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to offer a “realistic withdrawal date,” the Post reported. The commanders declined, the newspaper said.

A top foreign policy adviser to Obama sat in on the meetings between the candidate and Iraqi officials this summer and said no such conversations occurred, the campaign said Monday.

However MSNBC covered exactly what he said back in JUNE!!!
OBAMA’s TALK WITH IRAQI FORIEGN MINISTER
Posted: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:22 PM by Domenico Montanaro
From NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones
FLINT, Mich. — Obama reiterated his commitment to withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq during a telephone conversation this morning with the country’s foreign minister, he told reporters in a 10-minute press conference on the tarmac here.
The presumptive Democratic nominee told Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari that he looked forward to seeing him in Baghdad and told reporters he also wanted to visit Afghanistan, saying the situation there continued to deteriorate — noting a prison break this past weekend. He declined to specify when such trips would take place, but said he would like to go before the election.
VIDEO: NBC’s Richard Engel, author of “War Journal: My Five Years in Iraq” joins the “Morning Joe” team to discuss the progress of the war.
The men spoke about the progress U.S. troops have made in helping to reduce the violence in Iraq but Obama told Zebari troop withdrawals must go forward.
“I emphasized to him how encouraged I was by the reductions in violence in Iraq, but also insisted that it is important for us to begin the process of withdrawing U.S. troops, making clear that we have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq,” the senator said. “I gave him an assurance that should we be elected, an Obama administration will make sure that we continue with the progress that’s been made in Iraq, that we won’t act precipitously, but that we will move to end U.S. combat forces in Iraq in a manner that’s as careful as we were careless getting in.”
The need to withdraw is twofold, Obama said. Reprising an argument he has been making for months, he cited the need to encourage the Iraqi government to make the political accommodations on matters like oil revenues and provincial elections, which the surge was supposed to help happen. He argued that the progress made in the South and in Sadr City showed the need not for a longer commitment but a shorter one, because they indicate a greater capacity on the part of Iraqis to deal effectively with their security. Obama said the second reason was the $10- to-12 billion being spent each month in the country, a statistic he often cites when discussing the need to withdraw.
In response to a question about how much flexibility there would be to withdrawal plans, Obama said he still believed U.S. forces could be out of the country within about 16 months and that “I’ve also consistently said that I will consult with military commanders on the ground and that we will always be open to the possibility of tactical adjustments. The important thing is to send a clear signal to the Iraqi people and most importantly to the Iraqi leadership that the U.S. occupation in Iraq is finite, it is gonna be coming to a foreseeable end.”
He said he told Zebari that negotiations for a Status of Forces agreement or strategic framework agreement between the two countries should be done in the open and with Congress’s authorization and that it was important that that there be strong bipartisan support for any agreement so that it can be sustained through a future administration. He argued it would make sense to hold off on such negotiations until the next administration.
“My concern is that the Bush administration–in a weakened state politically–ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next administration, whether it was my administration or Sen. McCain’s administration,” Obama said. “The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that’s currently made.”
And again Here is todays report from NYPost for Comparison!!!!
OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
Amir Taheri
Last updated: 4:10 am
September 15, 2008
Posted: 4:02 am
September 15, 2008
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops – and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”
“However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open.” Zebari says.
Though Obama claims the US presence is “illegal,” he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the “weakened Bush administration,” Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.
While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.
DENIAL?
WHY?
WHO IS LYING NOW BEEYATCH!!!!!!
BUSTED AGAIN BACKTRACK OBUMMER!!!!!

#556 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 9:49 pm

Vote!

Youtube ’08 Presidential Election (Vote now)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8GN5BgaPQ

#557 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:49 pm

Alice,

NOPE! They’ll hide the teleprompter, Lets just say the fool with be stuttering worse than Mel Tillis!

#558 Lara08 on 09.22.08 at 9:49 pm

#539 KarenWI, the thing is that Republicans can’t publicize McCain’s political past because it will deter the conservative base from voting for him. So, if BO portrays McCain as ultra-conservative (which he isn’t) it actually helps them with their base. I did see an ad that called McCain a “maverick” so I think they were trying to reach out to undecided people with that. McCain is not a third term Bush. McCain seems like a thinking person and not cynical like W.

#559 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 9:50 pm

Uh oh, more folks are clinging to religion with the economy troubles…bad news for obuma. :-)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

With Wall Street in turmoil, some turn to religion

By Christine Kearney Mon Sep 22, 2:04 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080922/us_nm/financial_religion_dc
NEW YORK (Reuters) – As financial workers suffer through tumultuous times on Wall Street, some are turning to an old source of solace: religion………

#560 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 9:53 pm

Debate Party :

It looks like Michelle Obama’s followers are not party shy at all. I keyed in my zip code to see how many parties were volunteered…. there are 25 within a 50 mile radius. That is only one zip code. Obviously they are connected.

Key in your zip code and see who is a nice Obama supporter.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/debate-watch-party-a

#561 Seattlegirl on 09.22.08 at 9:53 pm

I really enjoyed the prowl! I would like to see some sort of statement from NOW regarding BO and the way he pays women 78% of men’s salary’s and why NOW didn’t make an issue of this forcing BO to do something about it if he wanted their endorsement. Also the very fact that BO does not have a heading on his comments site for “women’s issues” tells us a lot about how important he thinks we are. It would be interesting and probably funny to see what convoluted excuse making comment NOW would make for BO.

#562 ipotter on 09.22.08 at 9:53 pm

#537 Lara08 Yeah, they seem to think we aren’t smart enough to actually look up the record. Funny! They also say the President votes… ha ha… he isn’t in the legislature and he doesn’t drop in for pizza and a vote and head on back to the executive branch.

#563 BillieJo on 09.22.08 at 9:53 pm

#491 Anna7000 on 09.22.08 at 9:14 pm

RE: BERKELEY E-MAIL FROM “FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS OF BILL AYERS” (yes, such a group actually exists!)

Finally made my way through a lot of hoops trying to get to the right person to speak to about UC policies and legalities re: staff sending out political e-mails. I hope to be hearing from the appropriate attorney soon. Will keep everyone posted, if anyone’s interested.

————
Please don’t get me in trouble at work, this guy is connected to the Graduate School of Education – the building I work at and I don’t want it coming back to me please. Everyone knows I am a lone wolf that doesn’t support Obama. I may be the only one.

#564 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 9:54 pm

#559 notfollowinthepiedpiper
Those bible clinging gun totin’ rednecks. They are just all over wall street.

#565 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 9:55 pm

GO HILLARY GO

I too am proud to be a puma democrat…
Very proud indeed!

#566 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 9:57 pm

561 Seattlegirl
I’d like to see you send that comment to NOW.
And, I’d love to read their response… as long as it isn’t an auto-responder sterile one.

#567 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:57 pm

#560 freddiebrown

Only 1 in my area and guess where it’s located? Democratic HQ………ahahahahaha!

#568 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 9:58 pm

#560 freddiebrown
22 in 50 miles. All in either the black part of town or the rich white part.
These aren’t people, they are stereotypes.

#569 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 9:58 pm

#567 Asian4Hillary
Can I come live with you?

#570 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 9:58 pm

#560 freddiebrown

It is like a map of stupid.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/Itisamapofstupid.jpg

#571 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 9:59 pm

#569 snowtiger

Sure! studmuffin! :lol:

#572 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 9:59 pm

#561 Seattlegirl
Yup. It was a good one today. Only problem is I got an invite to join NOW.
My computer threw up.

#573 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.22.08 at 10:00 pm

#560 freddiebrown

I think we should sign up for those parties so we can slip nobama flyers into the couch cushions, leave them on the bathroom counters and hang ‘em around the car mirrors (with rubber bands). Accidentally drop puma business cards w/ the web address scattered all around when no one’s looking. Puma under cover.

#574 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:00 pm

#571 Asian4Hillary
ON my way. I just love asian women so quiet and obedient. :)
(heading for cover)
Rofl. ;)

#575 KarenWI on 09.22.08 at 10:00 pm

#560 freddiebrown….
none in my city (at least not yet). 3 within 50 miles of my city, LOL. Interesting… none in Green Bay. One in Appleton, one in Chilton, and I forget where the 3rd one was.

#576 Cassie on 09.22.08 at 10:01 pm

Hey everyone! There is a virtual debate party going on at the McPalin Mavericks website on Friday at 9:00. We will be meeting there with our favorite beverages to discuss the debates. Everyone is welcome to come as long as it is kept friendly. It will be fun so I hope that you will join us.

http://mcpalinmavericks.wordpress.com/

#577 Pookie on 09.22.08 at 10:01 pm

********Rangel calls Sarah Palin disabled*********

beltwayblips.com/story/astonishing_rep_rangel_calls_palin_disabled

#578 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:01 pm

21 in San Diego County.
Debate watching parties… if I read that correctly.

#579 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:02 pm

#573 notfollowinthepiedpiper
I was thinking the same thing.
At the very lest we can now send out snail mail to our neighbors.

#580 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:02 pm

#574 snowtiger

Oh yeah! Obedient alright, you better OBEY if you know what’s good for you. :lol:

#581 atypical on 09.22.08 at 10:03 pm

548 terrydo
Thank you. that seems to be the whole thing.

#582 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 10:03 pm

WHAT did MO do to her head? EGADS!

Now, no house party’s around me but Oh my, Northwest PA is drinking the koolaid! They need antidote!

Bring on the TEA!

#583 Seattlegirl on 09.22.08 at 10:03 pm

Since we are talking of bloggers we miss I miss Living Grace/Morning Song!

#584 GoHillaryGo on 09.22.08 at 10:04 pm

I phoned Rolling Stones and left a strong message on the answering machine. I am sure they did not like to listen to what I said. I told them I would not buy their magazine any more until they fix the mess. I told them to fire the guy for the article. haha. I teld them the article was absolutely disgusting.

#585 tillerylakelady on 09.22.08 at 10:04 pm

mamapuma,
e-mails completed
will make calls tomorrow
Got home late

#586 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:05 pm

#580 Asian4Hillary
Yes dear.

#587 TrishfromCanada on 09.22.08 at 10:05 pm

ok I know I’m late weighing in on this but it’s been a busy rollar coaster of a day.

Murphy, I just finished reading the discussion on race and I have to say I’m so proud of you and the Puma’s who joined in. Wow, it was mature and thoughtful, I learned quite a bit from it. There were several talking points there that I’d like to haul out of everyone’s discussions. I’ll do that in the next few nights.

But mostly I wanted to share what I sent Dances with you and the blog, particularly for the two or three people who felt the discussion was a waste of time:


Murphy was very wise today, opening up the race discussion. I just finished reading it. Tensions were getting high on the blog, its good that she brought most people together by addressing such an important reality that we are all different in many ways but to use colour to define us is wrong. And I agree when people use colour to win battles its about power not race. She really really summed up the whole problem. No one else could ever bring up race in the way she did without getting lynched, I admire the way she handles contentious topics.

Thank you for being you Murphy.

#588 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:08 pm

snow,

you’re funny! hahahahaha!

#589 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:08 pm

587 TrishfromCanada
Agreed trish, incredibly touchy subject at anytime, now a bomb ticking.

#590 atypical on 09.22.08 at 10:08 pm

Anyone hear anymore about the cbc bigwigs meeting to discuus the numerous complaints they have received re: their columnist whatshername?

#591 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:08 pm

588 Asian4Hillary
Yes dear.

#592 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:11 pm

I have several bumperstickers that I brought back from Denver.

I’d be happy to send a bumpersticker or two to anyone who makes a contribution to puma pac before I sign off for the night. Let’s all help Murphy keep the blog lights on!

-Howard I’m not coming home
-PUMA Democrat
and
NOBAMA
and they all have the Puma PAC logo on them.

C’mon, lurkers, don’t be shy!

Going once… going twice… bettah hurry!

#593 jenniforhillary on 09.22.08 at 10:11 pm

BACK AGAIN! cannot tell you the withdrawal I have had (puma is worse than heroin)…

I am scared people…SCARED!!

I am leaving the country if he steals the election, and I will lose much of what I love. I am talking and working as fast as I can. I think I have reached about 1000 people myself through direct contact or contacts my converts have made…

The scariest thing lately is that I think Bill O’Reilly has swallowed. I had my hand crank radio and I listened 24/7 and I think he has gone and done it…either that or they put a hit on him.

Cannot work fast enough, cannot stay and play. Am going to get organized so I can first do prowls and then do back reading…

GO PUMAS!!

#594 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:12 pm

snow,

Not that obedient..darn it! :lol:

#595 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 10:12 pm

Trish , would have loved to have your insight on that thread . Many people miss you on here – we were just talking about you and go upthread :) Please tell go I said ‘clink” :)

#596 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 10:12 pm

I live in Toledo,Ohio and there is only 1 debate party here. It lists 27 in my area and almost all are in Detroit Mi. Home of the great role model Kwame Kilpatrick disgraced mayor of that cespool of a city and all are at some democratic center.

I travel to Detroit often for work and believe you me cespool is an understatment!

#597 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:13 pm

#594 Asian4Hillary
I shall try to be more assertive because you tell me to be so.

#598 BarbNOBO on 09.22.08 at 10:13 pm

#582 bythelake…It looks like I have a lot of work to do..too many OBOTS in my area!!!

#599 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 10:13 pm

Sorry for my misspelling, a bit tired this evening.

#600 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:14 pm

#596 michelle47
I have a friend in Rosemont and she has one goal. Getting out.

#601 Pookie on 09.22.08 at 10:14 pm

#582 bythelake: LOL I’m glad someone else noticed where was her makeover artists when she made that video she could have passed for Bo’s twin with a chew of tobacco in his lip

#602 CyberFerret52 on 09.22.08 at 10:14 pm

Has anyone contacted the RNC and McCain’s campaign to tell them about the viral e-mail on Palin? (I don’t know how) They need to get on this one FAST!

#603 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 10:15 pm

aol straw pole vote

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/18/aol-straw-poll-sept-18-25/

#604 shampoovta on 09.22.08 at 10:15 pm

See ya later Pumas.

#605 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:16 pm

#602 CyberFerret52
What e-mail? I must have missed something being in and out all day.

#606 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:16 pm

#604 shampoovta
ASta shampoo

#607 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:16 pm

Go Hillary Go

You have email.

#608 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:17 pm

snow,

That’s good. Behave jackal while I’m singing here on my desktop..I sing jazz :)

#609 TrishfromCanada on 09.22.08 at 10:17 pm

#590 atypical

The CBC execs copped out, said it was an opinions column and Mallick was merely stating an opinion. We can approach the ombudsman though. I do not believe the cbc has heard the end of this. I think writing the government is that answer here. Dances is going to update the prowl with the ombudsman’s e-mail.

The execs are stating that the responses they are receiving are worse than the actual article so I beg everyone to please be courteous in your response to cbc. They’re in Bo’s pocket and they’ll use any excuse to defend themselves.

#610 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 10:18 pm

Short story.

I have an older lady who comes in the store almost daily and she sits down and likes to chat.

She started bashing Sarah Palin and I stopped her dead in her tracks and told her she wasn’t being very nice.

Then she called me a racist.

Excuse me? Me? She said I was racist because I was not voting for Obama.

I told her I was not voting for him because he lacks experience to run our country.

I told her that we need not talk politics. She has her views, I have mine.

Then I got thinking about her calling me a racist. Me. I have wonderful AA friends. The local President of the NAACP is a good friend of mine. We sit together at city council meetings.

The past President of the NAACP is a friend of mine. We also sit at city council and school board meetings together. We think alike. I respect both of them, they respect me.

They know my veiws on Obama. I know theirs. I won’t vote for him, they will. Why. Why are we all democrats yet I’m not supporting Obama?

I took off my rose colored glasses and can see clearly. To my friend who comes in the store, I am not a racist. I have common sense.

Okay, just venting.

#611 Pookie on 09.22.08 at 10:18 pm

#602 cyberferret52: could you tell me what this is?

#612 Godzilla on 09.22.08 at 10:19 pm

Here’s video of the McCain/Palin rally in Media today:

http://www.delcotimes.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20132721&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18171&rfi=6

#613 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:19 pm

NOBAMA CAN NOT WIN, NO HOW NO WAY!!

#614 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:19 pm

#603 Caracal Carrie
Voted JM 63% :)

#615 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:19 pm

#608 Asian4Hillary
Yes dear.

#616 hillfan4mccain on 09.22.08 at 10:19 pm

jenniforhillary The scariest thing lately is that I think Bill O’Reilly has————-

Yup, we have lost OReilly. I cant watch him anymore, so weak on BO. Oh well, it viewing of Factor was shorted lived. God what’s left?

#617 michelle47 on 09.22.08 at 10:20 pm

Pookie

I can’t say that I blame her, it’s like a third world country up there. Detroit is one nasty place and one that needs some serious reform.

#618 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:21 pm

#610 bythelake
THis is the insidious power of the race card. I was going to mention it downstairs. Take a look at how many of us felt a need to prove we are not racists.
Imagine how it is going across the country.

#619 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:22 pm

Dances is going to update the prowl with the ombudsman’s e-mail.
——————————————-
uh, oh, okay… lol

Trish do you also want to add a paragraph to it explaining what you just explained?

#620 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:22 pm

#608 Asian4Hillary
Jazz? Ever do any classic rock? :)

#621 TrishfromCanada on 09.22.08 at 10:22 pm

#595 TexasTigress

Thank you, I read the blog every evening, I’m just terribly swamped lately at work and in the evenings but I really do love relaxing after work to catch up. LOL wow you guys really do type a lot, it’s great. I never realized it til I had to stop logging on during work and then catching up later. 2 hours of reading and I’m only half way though the day.

Work will even out soon and i’ll be able to keep up better. Besides, Dances is very good at e-mailing me when I need to pay attention lol.

#622 atypical on 09.22.08 at 10:23 pm

609 Trish
Thanks for the update. I’m glad we’re not letting it die.

#623 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:23 pm

#616 hillfan4mccain
Say it aint so. I don’t have time for tv (thank god) but, I always respected O’RIelly as a good hard nosed interviewer.

#624 Luckyseven on 09.22.08 at 10:24 pm

330 Laurey4Hill
Please send McCain v Obama to
cheerietarts18@taol.com – thanks

newspaper links for nobama and his lie with the iranian pm

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1146329.aspx

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

#625 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:24 pm

God what’s left?
—————–
Puma PAC and PUMA PAC PUMAS

#626 Luckyseven on 09.22.08 at 10:24 pm

oops meant iraqi not iranian!!!

#627 freddiebrown on 09.22.08 at 10:25 pm

Debate Party : The far and effective arm of Obama

I put in a random zip code 90003 – 97 parties signed up. I didn’t make this up. you can see the address and little snippets of comments from the hosts.. enough to make me give up .. but I can’t give up.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/debate-watch-party-a

#628 Luckyseven on 09.22.08 at 10:26 pm

Yesterday in the Villages, a mainly retirement community in central Florida, Palin drew 50,000 people according to today’s local tv.

#629 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 10:26 pm

McCain’s Old Flame Finds Fame

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/mccains-old-flame-finds-fame/184124

Apparently McCain was a good kisser. heeee

#630 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:27 pm

Keep those contributions to PUMA PAC and your snail mail addresses coming in Pumas!

Bumperstickers will be mailed tomorrow!

#631 Pookie on 09.22.08 at 10:27 pm

#616 hillfan4mcCain; Hannity and Glenn Beck have not sipped the kool-aid.

#632 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:28 pm

I have to stop listening to my favorite classic rock station because of yhe obama ads, if any one cares to contact them it is http://1073theeagle.com/

#633 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:29 pm

“Apparently McCain was a good kisser.”

Now I have an image I really do not need. ;)

#634 NVPuma on 09.22.08 at 10:29 pm

Hi all
I found a poll in need of some Puma attention. Sorry if it’s been posted already. No time to read the blog today.
Thanks.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/

#635 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:29 pm

snow,
I like singing songs of Queen, Styx. :lol:

#636 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:30 pm

No name will be in Duneiden Fl tomorrow :(

#637 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 10:30 pm

OMG, I can see it now….The White House turned into THE RAP HOUSE! Walking through The White House with “lolli lolli pop” playing.

What in the world is WRONG with the DNC that they would destroy our PARTY and COUNTRY? They’ve made such a MESS!

Get out the brooms and we need to sweep them all to the curb!

#638 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 10:31 pm

Dances, McCain was not so bad when he was young. I can see him doing just fine with the ladies.

#639 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 10:32 pm

nvpuma – did it

Thanks for your vote.

Response Percent Votes
John McCain (Republican) 40% 130 votes
Barack Obama (Democratic) 49% 160 votes
Ralph Nader (independent) 4% 13 votes
Bob Barr (Libertarian) 4% 16 votes
Cynthia McKinney (Green Party) 1% 5 votes
Total Votes 324 votes

#640 kat in your hat on 09.22.08 at 10:32 pm

McCain’s Brazilian model/ ballerina was very pretty.

:)

#641 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:32 pm

#635 Asian4Hillary
Rock on ASian!!!
After this is over I will find a way to come hear you sing.
Queen is one of my all time favorites and I have eery Styx album. Funny thing is they are actually albums.
SOMeone should make a vid of Carpathia to the tune “The Grand Illusion”. You could sing. ;) !!!
That would rock.

#642 mick on 09.22.08 at 10:33 pm

WOW!! I don’t have time to read everything but there’s so many great post on this thread and the last … and not enough time for me to post tonight. :-(

Thanks Murphy for your wonderful topics! I can’t wait to do my prowls in the a.m.

******#191 BillieJo ******

BillieJo,
have you thought about forwarding that email to Bill O’Reilly or Greta? Tell them both that you fear for your job if you complain and that you want them to expose how UC Berkeley is using the email system to support leftist rhetoric for Obama. I know O’Reilly’s been very vocal about this kind of stuff. Just a thought.

Btw, just heard on Greta that the CBC reporter that she called a Pig isn’t happy about that …BooooFreakinHooooo

So Greta said, well maybe she would rather I call her white trash. :lol: hahaha I love Greta!!

#643 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:34 pm

#638 kat in your hat
That dog. Glad hes not here. I would be ignored.

#644 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:36 pm

634 NVPuma
Voted.

o is ahead: http://www.lasvegassun.com/

NVPuma if you’re still here… I need your email address.

#645 atypical on 09.22.08 at 10:36 pm

610 by the lake
I went to have a perm today and I usually talk to the lady with the appt. just before mine anout politics. Today she let loose about she can’t vote for BO because he’s black, but did tell her sister that they’re not really going to paint the white house black, she met Hillary and talked to her when she worked at Lockheed (I think she said), she likes Hillary, but most of the people she knows and worked with won’t vote BO as he is black. I tried to tell her that wasn’t the reason that BO is unacceptable, but she insisted, ” That is my reason”.
It is out there, and we seem to be fighting both wars at the moment, trying to refute the idea that we are racist and trying to convince others that they should not vote for BO because of his many shortcomings, not because he is half-black. (poorly stated but I hope you get my intent. )

#646 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:36 pm

Snow,

Guess what I have the whole collection of Queen. :lol:

I only have one album of STYX. Have you heard of Sypro Gyra? I have their album for greatest hits. ;)

#647 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 10:37 pm

OoooOoooo Canadian columnist getting bashed for bashing Gov. palin on FOX now!

#648 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:38 pm

638 kat in your hat
Agree. My visual overlooked that part.

#649 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:38 pm

#645 atypical
Its not surprising there a people out there like that.
Makes it harder for us but, we will succeed.

#650 mick on 09.22.08 at 10:39 pm

Greta is talking about Mallick ….

Mallick is actually trying to play the victim here :roll:
… I think it’s time for another prowl. hehe

Meow.

#651 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:39 pm

#646 Asian4Hillary
Not really inot Jazz, however I will listen to the band on oyur reccomendation. :)
Btw, Enigma?

#652 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:41 pm

#650 mick
Oh prowl it is. Since I decided to boycott everything Canadain , except Trish, I have a hard time getting good maple syrup. She will pay for that.

#653 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 10:41 pm

645 atypical ………. understand…..

I have another friend, AA who comes right out and says;

“My brother is gonna be President”. I can talk to him and try to reason with him that voting for skin color is not reason enough.

He doesn’t listen, but I try! And yes, this is an AA who has NEVER exercised his right to vote before THIS election. I find that sad.

#654 snowtiger on 09.22.08 at 10:41 pm

Nuts, must go. Will BBL.
PUMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#655 Pookie on 09.22.08 at 10:42 pm

#nvpuma: I voted JM 133 and Bo 161

#656 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:43 pm

I have a few views to say :
1. The Primary election should be held all on the same day just like the general election and no early voting.
2. General election should be held all on the same day with no early voting.

#657 bythelake on 09.22.08 at 10:43 pm

656 mijabsnji………I AGREE!

#658 TrishfromCanada on 09.22.08 at 10:44 pm

#619 DancesWithPumas

lol thanks for volunteering to update the prowl. lol I’m laughing so hard here.

Could you add the paparagraph about being courteous to the top of the prowl please, pretty prety please, I’ll put in a good word with Mama for you!

#659 atypical on 09.22.08 at 10:45 pm

652 Snowtiger
What’s wrong with VT maple syrup or NY for that matter. I live in NY and get very good syrup locally. Lots of people around here with taps into their trees.

#660 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:45 pm

637 bythelake
OMG, I can see it now….The White House turned into THE RAP HOUSE!
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637 bythelake
OMG, I can see it now….The White House turned into THE RAP HOUSE!
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Have you, by any chance, read this morning’s blog?
Blacks aren’t a monolithic group with one taste in anything. Don’t we have enough real reasons to vote against Obama without projecting our worse unsubstantiated fears unto him?

#661 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:46 pm

snow,

You’re the only person I know who mentioned “enigma” I have three of their CD, I know they have a 4th one, I wasn’t able to buy it. ;)

#662 Asian4Hillary on 09.22.08 at 10:47 pm

I have one of enigma song I posted on my website for poetry I wrote.

#663 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:47 pm

#657 bythelake
Thank you
Also give parenting back to the parents, get rid of political corectness and get rid of big brotherisim. Give us back our freedom and right to make decissions.

#664 TrishfromCanada on 09.22.08 at 10:48 pm

#652 snowtiger

My aunt owned a maple syrup farm in montreal when i was growing up, I always think of her whenever i smell it. Hey, if you want some just send me your snail mail and you’ll have some sent to you. prowlngrowl @ gmail . com

#665 TexasTigress on 09.22.08 at 10:49 pm

Night Pumas !!!!!!!!
Asian and snow – get a room !!! :lol:

#666 murphy on 09.22.08 at 10:49 pm

Howdy Folks, was on a conference call for a while and my ear hurts!

New post up! Dwp and Mp will be THRILLED to know that we are finally opening the Puma PAC Emporium for all fine things Puma.

All of the items we are offering in exchange for donations ARE IN STOCK and READY TO SHIP (Thanks to MP!)

Every contribution helps SO MUCH — thank you!

Be wonderful to each other and

Take it upstairs!

#667 DancesWithPumas on 09.22.08 at 10:49 pm

658 TrishfromCanada
Send the paragraph and email address(es) again, and I’ll be happy to do it.
And, pleeeeeeeeeeeease do not try to assist with Mama’s relationship to me…
She always turns those good intentions around and seems to sense that I am more guilty than she is aware, or than I really am.

But, thank you anyway.

#668 NVPuma on 09.22.08 at 10:49 pm

Dances

Sent you my email.

#669 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:50 pm

One more very important item, get rid of the electorial vote and let the popular vote rule!

#670 murphy on 09.22.08 at 10:50 pm

yes yes yes yes!!

I got #666.

dang! I love it when that happens!!

I feel like whoever get #666 deserves a PRIZE!

I think I’ll give myself some cheese!

#671 osaka puma on 09.22.08 at 10:51 pm

mijabsnji…
i notice in your post the words GIVE ..
uh uh.. in this world you have to TAKE IT.. because no one is going to GIVE you nothing

#672 murphy on 09.22.08 at 10:52 pm

good night texas tigress — thank you for your wonderful input earlier today during our discussion — as well as everything else that you do!

#673 murphy on 09.22.08 at 10:52 pm

Hi mijabsnji! How the heck are you?

#674 Caracal Carrie on 09.22.08 at 10:54 pm

Night o’sister of mine.

#675 mick on 09.22.08 at 10:56 pm

#560 Freddie,

Hmm, we can’t let the Obot’s have all the fun! Let’s all have our own dang debate parties or click below to find one near you.

http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainNation/

#676 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 10:59 pm

673 murphy
Hey Murph I’m great! Fighting hard to defeat nobama , I’m at war LOL ! Love this site and love you , PUMA POWER we rule!

#677 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 11:00 pm

I wanted to go to denver so bad !

#678 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 11:04 pm

By the way, isn’t a certin something legal in Alaska? Did the Gov have anything to do with it? I am from back in the day and still a hippie after all these years :)

#679 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 11:05 pm

Is everyone sleeping?

#680 mijabsnji on 09.22.08 at 11:07 pm

NO WAY NO HOW OBAMA

#681 Alice1943 on 09.22.08 at 11:11 pm

557 Asian4Hillary That’s wonderful. I cna’t wait to hear how his mind doesn’t work without one. Maybe he will claim Affirmative Action should allow him to use a teleprompter.

#682 Hispanic4Hillary on 09.23.08 at 12:09 am

today I received a letter and picture of Obama and Biden together..and of course they wanted money. well I painted lipstick on both of them and returned the picture in their paid envelope and wrote PUMAS all accross the picture….I did write ” Hey assos, I stick with PUMAS and will be voting McCain/Palin”

#683 freddiebrown on 09.23.08 at 1:50 am

Hey – you guys posting on the wrong thread… there is another one upstairs…

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