Sunday Morning Wake Up Call

Sometimes when everything seems wrong and the deck seems stacked against us, the only thing to do is to start a fight. Get the juices flowin with our girl Pink this morning:

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#1 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 10:21 am

First!

#2 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 10:23 am

2nd?

#3 Worker Bee on 09.21.08 at 10:24 am

I feel so good this morning, beause I dropped some of DWP’s wonderful oPalin cash at the grocery store yesterday. grrrrrrrowwwwwwl-purrrrrrrrrrr.

#4 normapapuma on 09.21.08 at 10:32 am

On Fox news this am they were talking about SNL skits and how they NEVER spoof Obama. They ask can anyone come up with something funny about BO?
I thought of all the funny stuff on this site and others: Is it funny or SAD?

#5 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.21.08 at 10:32 am

Campaigns wage intense battle for women’s vote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080921/pl_mcclatchy/3050041

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I know a lot of us here aren’t women, but a LOT of us are. I say we show’em what we got girls! Make ‘em sorry they picked this fight. Printing flyers, emails flying, phone lists ready. Let’s roll!

#6 lizben08 on 09.21.08 at 10:34 am

#201 gd4Hill4EVA (downstairs):

Where can I find the Michelle Obama Whitey tapes? My husband has said this would change his mind, but he does not believe they really exist.

I have heard of them, but have never seen them!

#7 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.21.08 at 10:36 am

Evidence for talking points:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/52786.html

Out of bounds! Obama misstates McCain’s position on regulation

#8 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 10:41 am

In the top 10?

#9 hillfan4mccain on 09.21.08 at 10:43 am

Who knows if the “whitey tapes” are real, however the BO camp came out and made an excuse for them. We all heard the “why’d he” thing. Bob Beckle came out (on Fox)in May-June and said he did believed they were real. And Bob loves Bo. That to me says something is out there. Just dont know exactly what.

#10 tec1965 on 09.21.08 at 10:44 am

morning pumas

#11 greenfun on 09.21.08 at 10:47 am

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#12 indy on 09.21.08 at 10:47 am

Good Morning,

That McClatchey article on women voters who support McCain would have supported him anyway, is blarney.

First of all, if Hillary was the presidential nominee we would have been voting for her.

Second, a lot of Reagan Democrats who would have voted for Hillary, are now supporting McCain. Plus, older voters have been around too long to be sold a bill of goods by Obama.

Obama’s numbers are up because if the economy is down, then polls go down for the incumbent party. If the economy goes up, then McCain should go up in the polls and level the playing field.

#13 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 10:48 am

normapapuma :
Perhaps SNL has an agreement like FOX never to criticize Obama as a condition to his appearing on their site!

#14 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:50 am

The reason you see McCain drop in electoral maps, Florida was moved to toss up status. There’s a reason for that why Floridians especially Senior Citizens panicked….SOCIAL SECURITY. NOBAMA LIED TO THEM!!

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Obama’s Social Security Whopper

September 20, 2008

He tells Social Security recipients their money would now be in the stock market under McCain’s plan. False.

Summary

In Daytona Beach, Obama said that “if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would’ve had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week.” He referred to “elderly women” at risk of poverty, and said families would be scrambling to support “grandmothers and grandfathers.”

That’s not true. The plan proposed by President Bush and supported by McCain in 2005 would not have allowed anyone born before 1950 to invest any part of their Social Security taxes in private accounts. All current retirees would be covered by the same benefits they are now.

Obama would have been correct to say that many workers under age 58 would have had some portion of their Social Security benefits affected by the current market turmoil – if they had chosen to participate. And market drops would be a worry for those who retire in future decades. But current retirees would not have been affected.

Analysis

In our “Scaring Seniors” article posted Sept. 19 we took apart a claim in an Obama-Biden ad that McCain somehow supported a 50 percent cut in Social Security benefits, which is simply false. Then, on Saturday Sept. 20, Sen. Barack Obama personally fed senior citizens another whopper, this one a highly distorted claim about the private Social Security accounts that McCain supports.

What Obama Said

In Daytona Beach, Florida, Obama said in prepared remarks released by the campaign:

Obama, Sept. 20: And I’ll protect Social Security, while John McCain wants to privatize it. Without Social Security half of elderly women would be living in poverty – half. But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would’ve had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week. Millions would’ve watched as the market tumbled and their nest egg disappeared before their eyes. Millions of families would’ve been scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers, the secure retirement that every American deserves. So I know Senator McCain is talking about a “casino culture” on Wall Street – but the fact is, he’s the one who wants to gamble with your life savings.

That’s untrue. All current retirees would be covered by exactly the same Social Security benefits they are now under what the Obama campaign likes to call the “Bush-McCain privatization plan,” which Bush pushed for unsuccessfully in 2005.

Who Would Have Been Affected

As the White House spelled out at the time, on page 5 of the document titled “Strengthening Social Security for the 21st Century,” released in February 2005:

Bush Plan: Personal retirement accounts would be phased in. To ease the transition to a personal retirement account system, participation would be phased in according to the age of the worker. In the first year of implementation, workers currently between age 40 and 54 (born 1950 through 1965 inclusive) would have the option of establishing personal retirement accounts. In the second year, workers currently between age 26 and 54 (born 1950 through 1978 inclusive) would be given the option and by the end of the third year, all workers born in 1950 or later who want to participate in personal retirement accounts would be able to do so.

Nobody born before Jan. 1, 1950 could have participated, and anyone born on that date would be 58 years old now. The earliest possible age for receiving Social Security retirement benefits is 62, for early retirement at reduced benefits. Full retirement age is currently 66, and scheduled to go up to age 67 in coming years.

It is certainly true that the stock market carries risks, as recent events remind us. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down nearly 17 percent for this year, for example, and despite gains in other years it is still barely above where it was at the start of 2000. But historically there have also been rewards for those who make diversified investments and hold for long periods. When Obama spoke, the Dow Jones average still stood 305 percent higher than it had at the start of the 1990’s.

Disappearing nest eggs?

Also worth noting here:

The private accounts would have been voluntary. Anybody fearful of the stock market’s risk could simply stay in the current system.

Obama’s reference to “casino culture,” disappearing “nest eggs” and gambling with “your life savings” are also misleading exaggerations. Only a little over one-fourth of any workers’ total Social Security taxes could have been invested (a maximum of 4 percent of taxable wages, out of the total 15.3 per cent now paid, split equally between worker and employer.)

Speculation in individual stocks would not have been permitted. Workers would have had a choice of a few, broadly diversified stock or bond funds.

While McCain has voted in favor creating private Social Security accounts in the past, and endorsed Bush’s 2005 proposal (which never came to a vote in Congress), he is not making a strong push for them as part of his campaign. In fact, a search for the term “Social Security” on the McCain-Palin Web site brings up the following: “No documents were found.”

Footnote: When we contacted the Obama campaign for comment, spokesman Tommy Vietor defended Obama’s remarks as accurate:

Vietor: You don’t have to be retired to rely on Social Security. Millions of people who will one day retire rely on Social Security as they plan their future. Senator Obama’s bottom line is absolutely true. If McCain got his way and we had private accounts . . . people who are relying on that money for their retirement would be in a very difficult situation.

We would grant Vietor a point if Obama had made any mention of workers being fearful of their future retirement (although this would apply only to those who had chosen to participate in private accounts, and not to everybody.) But Obama did not say that. Instead, he referred to “elderly women” in danger of poverty. He spoke of families “scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers” a secure retirement – not to families worrying about their own retirement. If Obama did not mean what he said to be a reference to current retirees, he could say so clearly and amend his words.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_social_security_whopper.html
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#15 ladyhawkke on 09.21.08 at 10:51 am

Lisben08 The white tapes have never been seen. Rudy Guiliani is supposed to have them and is waiting to show them. Don’t know if they exist or not but I hope they do.

#16 ladyhawkke on 09.21.08 at 10:53 am

I love Pink. Does anyone remember that song she sang, Mr. President, against Bush?

#17 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:53 am

lizben08:
The “whitey” tapes have never been released to the public.

My PERSONAL opinion is that they do exist. The republicans have them and perhaps some people in the media have them. I think either (for whatever reason) the Republicans are holding them or the media was bought off by the Obama campaign.

#18 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 10:55 am

Here’s a Fight – Shut Up You Fauxminists!

Any woman who supports a candidate who exploits sexism against his female opponents and has more highly paid male staff than female staff is not a Feminist, she is a Fauxminist.

Only Fauxminists allow themselves to be coerced into voting for such a candidate because he tells them that they will have to bear the children of rape if they do not.

Feminists know that such a person is a fraud and a liar who will exploit them the way he has exploited others.

Are you Women or WIMPS? If you cannot promote women candidates or challenge them appropriately on the relevant issues… Shut up you Fauxminists!

P.S. It was scripted, telepromped and designed with a double meaning to avoid responsibility.

#19 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 10:57 am

I rather doubt if the “whitey” tapes will do much to damage Obama anymore at this point even if they do exist. If Rev Wright, Rezko, and Ayers didn’t do it; if his votes again the “born alive protection act” didn’t do it; if his lies and changing views all the time (and then accusing US of lying about what he said the first time) didn’t do it…. I rather doubt that will. That, after all, is his wife, not him. He’s managed to get away with the things HE has done, I can’t see where something his wife had done is going to do much anymore now… At least not enough to make much difference in the way the vote turns out….

#20 normapapuma on 09.21.08 at 10:58 am

Lillibet
I’d like to forward the youtube video of BO stammering and saying “I can’t hear myself!” to Fox with the message: Per request-Something funny about Obama.
Just don’t know how.

#21 GBPuma on 09.21.08 at 11:03 am

Talk about a self-centered greedy arrogant narcisitic self-righteous etc. SOB !!!!!!!!!!

This just shows exactly who and what he is all about. It’s all “mine” and you work more and harder to get me elected and more money, but it’s all “my” money and I’m not sharing any with anybody at all……..but you can use “my” name………like his name is going to be all anyone ever needs…LOL….like his name is going to pay for the ads and flyers and campaign expenses for downticket contests………….

Hey I have a solution for the financial crisis that is ahppening….we can elect the O-ssiah and he can have all his kiddies just keep donating to him to pay off this $700billion buyout because he is sooooo great at raising all these millions for wasted causes and likes to just throw it away….and then O-ssiah will own all the homes etc. of these failing banks.that way he can be the worlds biggest slum lord…just what he always wanted living in Chicago……..LOL….LOL

Obama Spurns Harry Reid’s Cash Request

Barack Obama has turned aside a direct request from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to share some of his fundraising haul to aid Democratic senatorial candidates this November.

Obama raised $66 million in August, leaving his campaign with about $77 million in cash. He has turned down public financing, meaning he can keep raising money through Election Day, while his Republican opponent John McCain, who has accepted the public money, can’t.

But McCain already has $84 million in public money, and will get significant help from the Republican National Committee, which has greatly outraised its Democratic counterpart, as well as from the GOP’s state and local committees, Politico reported. That makes Obama reluctant to share his campaign war chest.

Reid and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Charles Schumer had hoped to pick up as much as $10 million from the Obama campaign as they seek to pad their Senate majority and counter the tens of millions of dollars the Republican National Committee will spend in states with competitive Senate races.

But the Obama campaign so far “has agreed only let Senate Democrats use Obama’s name — as well as those of his wife and running mate — in mail and online fundraising pitches,” according to Politico.

“The campaign has planned no joint fundraising events with House or Senate Democrats, and insiders say none is likely to be held before Election Day.”

#22 jane-pa on 09.21.08 at 11:05 am

I can say Obama all day long at grocery store they still want money for food as down line does too but he says NO mine

#23 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 11:06 am

When Woopie Goldberg becomes belligerent with ignorance, towards a US Senator running for the Presidency, on national TV, it is clear that the BO tactics are aggression and ignorance are way out there. Woopie at least should find out the difference between a Supreme Court Ruling and a Constitutional Amendment before she runs her mouth.

Contact The View! http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/ask

Where is Palin? She needs to get on the View and straighten out those Koolaid Drunks.

#24 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 11:08 am

Here are some people with a non-profit womens group that appear to be starting up. Looks interesting.

http://thenewagenda.net/

#25 Rabblerouser on 09.21.08 at 11:10 am

OK PUMAs – I’m watching Meet the Press right now. I think Mike Bloomberg should be president. Period. I find it interesting that he hasn’t come out and endorsed either candidate and he says he’s been in touch with both on a weekly basis. Hope they are smart enough to use him in their administration.

#26 PumaDuma on 09.21.08 at 11:11 am

Yep, this is one of those week-ends where “real life” has eclipsed politics.

Nothing has been more important than finding our how much money your 401K has lost or your stock portfolio swirling round and round in the porcelain princess where she stops nobody knows.

All we’re sure of is 90% of our holdings are gone! If we live long enough seeing them return, it will indeed be a blessing!

Meanwhile the economic crisis has given us pause. We’ve taken a step back from information overload and low and behold… here is what we found the weaklings doing:

Pumas Unleashed

#27 john on 09.21.08 at 11:15 am

Sarah Palin serves the people, not entrenched powers

Excerpt: I stood on the floor of the convention center in Minneapolis, watching with pride as she gave her acceptance speech, and the energy in the room was electrifying. That same jolt of energy has spread through New Jersey where voters are still abuzz about this ticket of mavericks

It now looks like the Garden State, with its 15 electoral votes, might be the state that puts the historic McCain-Palin ticket over the top. And this will be no acci dent. Palin is exactly what our country needs — a no-nonsense leader willing to cut taxes and spending and to take on en trenched political powers because it is the right thing to do.

#28 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 11:17 am

asian4hillary:
I imagine that the best way to fight Obama’s false assertions that SS Benefits would be invested in the stock markets would be with letters to the editors in Florida Newspapers and on the radio blogs. However, since most of the seniors in Florida probably do not use the computer that much we would have to find another way to reach them.
I believe that even if, and thats a big if, McCain would try to privatize SS Benefits that would never happen.

#29 YesSheCan on 09.21.08 at 11:20 am

The reason McCain is down in the polls is because the Obama camp has managed to kill the “Palin factor.”

Made her look like an idiot, now the financial trouble has the headlines. She is out of the picture. Now we’re back to pre-convention numbers.

Of course Oprah can’t have her on, her audience would love Palin, and she couldn’t attack her. So the plan is to stop any good press for her, continue spreading lies and rumors, and manipulate and edit her interviews to make her look like an idiot.

Getting the real Palin back out there is the only way McCain can get back up in the polls.

#30 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 11:20 am

#28 lilibet

I think that should be our prowl today, email newspapers. radio and TV stations in Florida and give them the site of factcheck.org. Senior Citizens love to read their newspaper in the morning

#31 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 11:23 am

Lists of Radio Stations in Florida

http://www.usnpl.com/radio/flradio.php

BBL I’ll be sending email to newspapers in Florida, TV stations and radio stations.

#32 EWard on 09.21.08 at 11:24 am

YesWeCan #29

McCain and Obama are essentially tied in the polls. Rasmussen has them 1% apart. The others are in the tank for BO. And BO has done anything to damper the public’s enthusiasm for Palin. She’s the real thing.

#33 mick on 09.21.08 at 11:25 am

That Michelle Obama “whitey” tape DOES exist!! But, unfortunately, it’s not as damaging as we would like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ooBhnjl5v4

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#6 lizben08 on 09.21.08 at 10:34 am

#201 gd4Hill4EVA (downstairs):
Where can I find the Michelle Obama Whitey tapes?

#34 mick on 09.21.08 at 11:28 am

Sorry, but I couldn’t resist.

:twisted:

#35 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 11:28 am

BOgus Money

I know BO announced big $ this month for his campaign. $12 million of it was a transfer from the BO Victory Fund (Joint DNC/BO) that they cleaned out by also transferring another $31 mil to the DNC. Notice they have not announced the totals for the DNC/BO campaign.

All the transfers make it confusing, but they they appear to have spent about $68 million and brought in $83 million. But this does not include what was transfered to the Convention fund. This appears to be around $18 million but that cannot be confirmed until the quarterly reports are filed next month.

I would guess that the net of the BO/DNC dropped by about $3 million during August.

BO’s Campaign funds show the benefit of the Convention, but not the cost. BO has huge expenses and is going to end up with Campaign Debt if he does not slow down.

FEC reports http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/efile_search.shtml

Obama for America C00431445
Obama Victory Fund C00451393
Democratic White House Victory Fund C00450601
DNC Service Corp C00010603

#36 NobamaNetwork on 09.21.08 at 11:29 am

This is much more reliable. http://www.rove.com/election

#37 YesSheCan on 09.21.08 at 11:30 am

Edward 32

McCain has lost the advantage he had after the convention.

She is the real thing, but the bad press HAS hurt her. Especially the “I can see Russia from my house.”
Not with the republican base, but with the undecided.

If she keeps being un-invited to events and banned from tv shows, if the rumors keep flying, if the positive coverage on her is limited, it will hurt McCains numbers.

#38 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 11:32 am

Gallup Poll

BO has been messing with Gallup, also. I heard something about them starting to poll cell phones at his insistance. Here is one article asking question about the bias of the poll. Apparently the messing started the first week of September.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/world/-/1068/469652/-/rxnf86/-/index.html

#39 kat in your hat on 09.21.08 at 11:32 am

Website: Sarah Palin Sexism Watch

http://palinsexismwatch.blogspot.com/

Do you know of instances of sexism directed at Sarah Palin?

Please review the website, and then submit your tips to:

palinsexismwatch@live.com

#40 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 11:33 am

bobram I’m getting together tremendous stuff about B. Hussein. It looks like a roadmap to hell and back. I’ll let you know when it’s done and you can incorporate whatever you want with your list. I’ll probably have to send it to you in an email. Thanks.

#41 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 11:34 am

ASIAN4HILLARY:
I like your idea and I will act on it. I have the Florida radio stations bookmarked.

#42 Rabblerouser on 09.21.08 at 11:36 am

37 YesSheCan on 09.21.08 at 11:30 am

That interview, as we know, was heavily edited to make her look stupid. A lot of people didn’t even know it was that edited. The power of the MSM is great; I just wish people would realize by now that they always have to question anything they see or hear on it.

#43 Rabblerouser on 09.21.08 at 11:37 am

#33 mick on 09.21.08 at 11:25 am

Thank you, I needed a laugh!

#44 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 11:38 am

David Axelrod believes that Perception is Reality and that is the basis for BO’s hopey program. The polls and the $’s are being as influenced and phoney as they can get right now. STAY FOCUSED!

I think we should concentrate on getting a broad diversity of voters registered and signing up as poll workers.

#45 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 11:45 am

BOBRAM:
I don’t live in Wisconsin anymore but my maternal grandparents immigrated from Kent, England to Chippewa Falls, WI where I was born and I grew up in Milwaukee. Two uncles got their Law degrees at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and my brother got his PH D there as well.
Is it fair to give a former address in Milwaukee when I make comments?

#46 john on 09.21.08 at 11:46 am

Palin numbers are not falling, lol whoever believes that has been duped. Palin not McCain has broke a event record right here in Florida 16,000 tickets in 1 day given out another 4,000 more Monday. 20,000 people waiting to see her at the Villagers in FL. Their lining up in New Jersey (blue state) New York (blue state) to see her . Stop believing the media lies. As for poll ONLY Gallup give Obama more than a 2% lead. Palin and McCain represents the people. The folks in congress are shaking in their boots that if they win they will no longer make the American people spin 14 million on haircuts on congress, and pet projects for their friends, no more media monopoly….. Go McCain/Palin

#47 halligan on 09.21.08 at 11:54 am

Interesting article on poll from Stanford U that indicates the “race” issue has some effect on election. I was a little surprised at the results. I love diversity of all kinds. But this country isn’t there yet.

http://news.yahoo.com/topics/barack-obama;_ylt=AsETbeO0Tk1DRxAOnExzeOxYRJ54

#48 halligan on 09.21.08 at 11:55 am

#46 John

Diminishing numbers makes news so it isn’t surprising that MSM would start such a rumor :-)

#49 kat in your hat on 09.21.08 at 11:55 am

AHHHHH!

From Uppity Woman:

John McCain’s Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Warnings – MAY 2006

http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/john-mccains-fannie-maefreddie-mac-warnings-may-2006/

Also, must read:

Barack’s Wall Street Problem is Now America’s
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/baracks-wall-street-problem-is-now-americas/

#50 halligan on 09.21.08 at 11:57 am

#44 Headclunker

Before I left the blog for a wonderful two week vacation, there were efforts to encourage our PUMAS to become pollwatchers especially in swing states. Pumas, has that effort continued?

#51 halligan on 09.21.08 at 12:02 pm

The Democrats don’t care about the “elderly” or the retired. They seem to think we are all rich and have millions and billions stored away. And if we do or did, its because we worked hard for fifty years to save, save, save for these “golden” years. To all young ones, those golden years come all too soon.

#52 Rodham in Flag on 09.21.08 at 12:04 pm

AT WALMART – yes I am one of those ladies – was standing in the one lane open only — and three women in front of me were just going on and on about an article they were reading while in line on the National Examiner – so when they put it down and I picked it up headlines OBAMA A MUSLIM – subheadlines with documents to prove it -

I was one of the group that sent emails to National Inquirer regading the birth certificate to no avail – its amazing how many people do read and believe everything – maybe we should all do a PROWL to National Examiner – at least they have the guts to stand up and say something about BO — what say you guys.

#53 SunnySantaFe on 09.21.08 at 12:06 pm

Good morning! I wrote my first post yesterday – hoping to find PUMAs in Santa Fe, NM to connect with. I didn’t get a response, so wanted to re-post. The local paper is publishing articles almost daily about how Hillary supporters are flocking to Obama, how energized the Hispanics are, etc. etc. We need help in Santa Fe! So, anyone out there from my neck of the woods? Any suggestions on how to find PUMAs here? Thanks.

#54 NotFallingInLine on 09.21.08 at 12:10 pm

Poll: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

#55 NotFallingInLine on 09.21.08 at 12:10 pm

Poll: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

#56 halligan on 09.21.08 at 12:11 pm

The retired and the elderly are “not all baby boomers” who bought two plus houses, boats, toys, trips to Mexico, etc. We all largely what some sociologist call the “Sandwich Generation” (born just as WWII was closing and before the 1950s). We have our parents’ depression memories, but we also have our children’s embracing technology mentality. We are not caught inbetween. We are the “good” stuff of the sandwich. But politicians are forgetting us and not seeing our tremendous worth because there are not as many of us as the baby boomers. We paid for our children’s college education (out of pocket) because we had jobs that threw us out of financial aide. We started our careers in the 60s and were paid less than $4000/yr. We were loyal to our employer and stayed with them for over 40 years. Our employer was loyal to us as well. Now we see Democrats taxing our savings and investments which we worked so hard for so that our children don’t have us as burdens. The Republicans have continued to tax us to death since the Reagan years. I’m fed up with the “me” attitude of Congress and any politician under 60. They have forgotten us.

#57 kat in your hat on 09.21.08 at 12:11 pm

@ #52:

It’s probably the document from Indonesia. Obama was registered as a Muslim.

Here, scroll down…it’s below the books, and you can click links:

http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/radical/

#58 Rodham in Flag on 09.21.08 at 12:12 pm

SunnySantaFe – send an email to your moderator – think it would probably be the Southwest and they can link you up – I noticed that there are TV stations up for New Mexico in the media link – I will be sending out letters to each of them online – do you have any recommendations for the media center regarding newspapers that we can use to get rid of BO — any Latino ones as well??

#59 Rodham in Flag on 09.21.08 at 12:15 pm

LILIBET – in response to your question to Bobram – since I have had that experience myself already – the TV Stations ask for your name, telephone number and address – so that they can call you and verify you are who you say you are – I am not sure what preference they give to those that are out of their State – so far nothing of mine has been picked up – seems like it is almost like the Congressional districts where they will not respond to only their own voters.

I would go ahead and use your Wisconsin address and give your phone number where you live – see what happens and come back and let the rest of us know….

#60 halligan on 09.21.08 at 12:15 pm

SunnySantaFe – to get to the moderator, go to the PUMA ACTION Center (scroll up on this page to top). Look on right side. Scroll down until you come to PUMA Action Center and click. Click one more time for Action Center on next page. Then read how to get to moderator.

#61 Rodham in Flag on 09.21.08 at 12:17 pm

Guess I will be the only one sending a letter to the National Examiner …. sigh.

#62 halligan on 09.21.08 at 12:17 pm

Sunny,

You have to join PUMAPAC to get a moderator.

#63 2PumaSisters on 09.21.08 at 12:19 pm

Good morning Pumas

#46 Thank you John!

You have said what I needed to hear. All the media has been telling are LIES.

#64 greenfun on 09.21.08 at 12:25 pm

One of the recurrent themes in this election cycle for me has been the hostile, aggressive behavior from some BO supporters. I have not felt this type of aggression directed at Dems from other Dems in quite this manner before. It is the sort of behavior that dominated the caucuses. More and more, I am convinced BO’s relationship with ACORN is at the heart of the corruption and thuggery we have witnessed and been subjected to this season. This a long but enlightening article. I pulled out a few tidbits for you.

Inside Obama’s Acorn
By their fruits ye shall know them.
By Stanley Kurtz

What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn), the largest radical group in America.

IN YOUR FACE
Acorn’s tactics are famously “in your face.” Acorn protesters have disrupted Federal Reserve hearings, but mostly deploy their aggressive tactics locally. Chicago is home to one of its strongest chapters, and Acorn has burst into a closed city council meeting there. Acorn protestors in Baltimore disrupted a bankers’ dinner and sent four busloads of profanity-screaming protestors against the mayor’s home, terrifying his wife and kids. Even a Baltimore city council member who generally supports Acorn said their intimidation tactics had crossed the line.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=&w=MA==

#65 JaJo8845 on 09.21.08 at 12:28 pm

Sent an e-mail to the View. Told them,” You girls need to get some manners. Not to mention respect for a sitting Senator.

#66 john on 09.21.08 at 12:29 pm

2PumaSisters. It’s the media job to manipulate us Obama is not running for president for Obama African Americans or the America people he’s running for George Soros. Warren Buffett, Teresa Heinz Kerry, Raila Amollo Odinga. He’s running to align his pockets with money and give them power and control of the people and the country.

#67 Rancho on 09.21.08 at 12:32 pm

halligan! I guess I missed you last night. I haven’t been on much. Are you currently active in the state teacher’s union.

#68 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 12:33 pm

Good Sunday everyone.

NOW is one messed up group. Press release from The New Agenda:

September 19, 2008: The New Agenda responds to

“NOW Endorsement
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: newagendapress@yahoo.com
Sept. 19, 2008 – The New Agenda, a non-partisan women’s advocacy organization, recognizes the decades of worthy work and achievement by the National Organization for Women. But The New Agenda is concerned that NOW’s recent endorsement of Barack Obama leaves many women in this country out in the cold.

This precedent-setting move marks the first time in NOW’s 42-year history that it has endorsed an all-male ticket.

Since its founding in 1966, NOW has endorsed only five presidential candidates:
1972 Shirley Chisholm for President
1984 WalterMondale/Geraldine Ferraro for President/Vice President
2003 Carol Moseley Braun for President
2008 Hillary Rodham Clinton for President
2008 Barack Obama/Joseph Biden for President/Vice President

The New Agenda co-founder Amy Siskind says, “We find it quite perplexing that NOW has chosen this moment to endorse an all-male ticket.” The endorsement seems all the more puzzling given the fact that the Republican Party is running its first female candidate for Vice-President, Gov. Sarah Palin, and the Green Party is fielding its first all-woman presidential ticket with Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente.

“Women need to stand together and help one another,” says Siskind. “Women’s issues such as unfair pay, domestic violence, and unpaid leave impact women of all political parties.”

The New Agenda is a not-for-profit organization and will not be endorsing a candidate in the presidential election.

The group is in talks with representatives from both Senator Obama’s and Senator McCain’s campaigns about the platform of women’s issues it wants to see addressed.

The New Agenda has also requested a meeting with Gov. Sarah Palin to discuss the group’s platform.
Jennifer Borg, another co-founder of The New Agenda, says, “We want to give Sarah Palin a chance to tell us what Sarah Palin believes on women’s issues.”

#69 scarlet on 09.21.08 at 12:33 pm

The Reverend Wright Issue

PoliticsSat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:25:55 am PST

At the Wall Street Journal, Laura Meckler writes that the McCain campaign is getting ready to open a can of Reverend Jeremiah Wright: ‘Attack by Association’ Viewed as Fair Game by McCain Camp.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31310_The_Reverend_Wright_Issue/comments/#ctop

THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM of Trinity Church in Chicago

http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114

#70 Rodham in Flag on 09.21.08 at 12:34 pm

So long – out to drop off flyers.

#71 Rancho on 09.21.08 at 12:34 pm

I’m being blasted all over the place with union talk, and iI know it’s going to get worse. Our local union is endorsing Obama because of his stands on education.

#72 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 12:37 pm

THE OBLIGATORY DAILY POLL REMINDER:

1. Add 3 points to every poll.
2. Trust only Rasmussen’s state polls.
3. Remember that Zogby and Gallup are not accurate and are run by pro-Obama people (in other words, Obots are running the Zogby and Gallup polls).

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/pollster-ratings-v311.html

Thank you.

#73 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 12:38 pm

That’s add 3 points to McCain on ever poll.

#74 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 12:38 pm

every

#75 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 12:38 pm

JOIN:
http://www.pumapac.org/join.html

Regional Moderator:
southwest@pumapac.org

ACTION CENTER ITEMS:
actioncenter@pumapac.org

ACTION CENTER: http://pumapac.org/action_center.html

PS Leaving right now. Be back later.

#76 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 12:40 pm

Oh, and check out the new flyers that were posted this morning.
As well as Wisconsin media info
as well as… are you ready?

Murphy cash!
lol

later. peaace. out.

#77 Rodham in Flag on 09.21.08 at 12:41 pm

S U N N Y S A N T A F E – I am reposting Lara08′s wonderful letter both in Spanish and English – maybe you could print and circulate in your area – that would be great : I am already doing that if its ok with Lara08

?Barack Obama Para Presidente?
!Claro que NO!

?Pórque?

?Cómo trató a la Sen. Hillary Clinton? ?Cómo trató al voto de la comunidad Hispana? Nos ignoró. Si quiere saber como va actuar alguien en el futuro, nada más considere la manera de la que ha actuado en el pasado.

El Senador Barack Obama es alguien que ha llegado a su puesto actual de manera corrupta. La manera que atacó a Hillary Clinton para “ganar” la nominación presidencial es la misma manera en que atacó a la Rep. Alice Palmer en Illinous para arrebatarle su puesto politico.

Barack Obama no fue elegido por la gente. Obama fue seleccionado por los directores del Partido Democrata. ?Pórque no dejaron que Obama fuese elegido democraticamente? ?Qué es lo que traman?

Obama no es la persona más calificada para ser presidente durante un tiempo de guerra ni cuando hay tantos problemas económicos. ?Cuál es el plan ecónomico de Barack Obama? ?Cómo nos sacara de Iraq? No tiene ideas concretas porque no tiene la experiencia necesaria para ser presidente. Antes de correr para la presidencia en 2007 !nada mas había servido 143 días como senador! Esta no es una persona que esta lista para ser presidente de los Estados Unidos.

El Partido Democrata ha gastado más de 300 milliones de dolares tratando de convencernos que votemos for Barack Obama. Si esta persona estuviera calificada no tendrían que invertir tanto dinero. NO VOTE POR BARACK OBAMA ESTE NOVIEMBRE. No es un Democrate de verdad. Nos ha mentido repetidamente (y todavîa no es presidente) é ignoró nuestro voto. Lo único que le interesa es hacerse presidente- no nuestro bienestar ni el futuro de nuestra coumunidad y país.
——————-
Barack Obama for President?
Of course NOT!

Why not?

How did he treat Sen. Hillary Clinton? How did he treat the Hispanic community? He ignored our vote. If you want to know how someone will act in the future, just consider his past behavior.

Sen. Barack Obama is an overly ambitious politician who only cares about advancing his own political career, oftentimes in corrupt ways. He “defeated” Hillary Clinton by attacking her personally and through caucus fraud. He also used underhanded means to “defeat” Rep. Alice Palmer in Illinois to become state representative.

The voters did not elect Barack Obama. Democratic Party leaders selected Barack Obama. Why didn’t they let voters choose the presidential nominee? What are they up to?

Obama is not the most qualified person to lead this country during a time of war and while we face major economic turmoil. What are Barack Obama’s economic plans? How does he plan to end the war in Iraq? He doesn’t have concrete ideas because he doesn’t have enough experience to be president. Before he decided to run for president in 2007 he had only served 143 days in the U.S. Senate. This is not someone who is ready to be president of the United States.

The Democratic Party has spent more than 300 million dollars trying to convince us to vote for Barack Obama. If he were qualified to be president they wouldn’t have to spend such an obscene amount of money. DON’T VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IN NOVEMBER. He is not a real Democrat. He has already lied to us repeatedly (and he isn’t even president yet) and he ignored our votes. He is interested in BECOMING president, but not in our well-being or the future of our community or our country.

#78 Notyoursweetie on 09.21.08 at 12:42 pm

The silent flip-flop: Obama drops from his website language reassuring seniors that the age for Social Security won’t be raised
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/obama-quietly-changing-position-on-raising-age-for-social-security/

#79 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 12:42 pm

You can send email to your congressman or Senator for Logan Act. Just put your zip code then fill up the form, your name, mailing address and email.

http://www.rallycongress.com/americansentinel/1223/a-call-for-hearings-into-senator-barack-obamas-violation-of-the-logan-act/

#80 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 12:47 pm

DANCES:
I like the Palin Cash very much.
I laughed out loud when I saw the Obama Opalin cash, and
still have somewhat the same reaction each time I
look at it.

However, I really love the new MURPHY CASH!

#81 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 12:49 pm

DANCES:
SHE, MURPHY, IS THE ONE NOBODY WAS EXPECTING!

#82 bobram on 09.21.08 at 12:52 pm

DANCES – FANTASTIC job on the Action Center – and I don’t dole out praises needlessly -

As an FYI – Wisconsin – does not show EauClair, Lacrosse – my last email to you – the other two are perfect.

At this moment based on doubit digit information on high single digit – BO has all but wrapped up 10 States (most are small EV States – except for Illinois and California) MC has 19 States – and there are 21 back and forth – my action project for today is look up TV Stations for VA, MI, COLO and SCAR – then the next will be links on individual newspapers for those 19 States that we need to wrestle away from BO.

LILIBET – saw your question and Rodham answered it perfectly – try your Wisc address and use your own phone number so they can contact you to verify identification – seems they want more of that with newspapers and TV stations then they do for voters.

#83 taylorgrob1 on 09.21.08 at 12:52 pm

From NoQuarter:

“Let’s start with the numbers. Why is a first term Senator pulling down almost $300,000 a year from Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Countrywide Financial, and Washington Mutual? He has not even completed his fourth year in the Senate and received a total of $1,093,329.00 from these eight companies and their employees. (all data from OpenSecrets.org). John McCain’s numbers, according to OpenSecrets.org for the period 1990-2008 (i.e., 18 years worth of data) only collected $549,584.00. In other words, Barack is receiving $273,582.25 (and 2008 is not over) per year while McCain raised a paltry $30,532.44.

Want another shocker? Barack Obama has received more from one source–Goldman Sachs $542,252.00–than McCain has from all of the companies combined. Who the hell is more beholden to lobbyists? And why does a junior Senator from Illinois rate this kind of dough?”

#84 JaJo8845 on 09.21.08 at 12:53 pm

I’m for contacting TV stations and newspapers in FL. Was thinking we could just copy and paste Asian4Hillary’s post # 14

#85 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 12:55 pm

#53 SunnySantaFe
write to me at MamaPumaMass@aol.com

#86 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 12:57 pm

BOBRAM: Thank you.

However, that is EAU CLAIRE. My father, in another lifetime, used to conduct a “street car” between Eau Claire and Chippewa Falls. That was all before my time!

#87 bellecat on 09.21.08 at 12:58 pm

#18 headclunker:

I like your post.

fauxminist! ha ha. LOL

#88 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 12:58 pm

Hi again,
I went off to read other blogs. It seems clear now that the racism accusation will probably dominate the “news” this week. This is an old strategy (they did it against HC/BC and their voters), so don’t even think about it or get off your game plan because of it. If someone says that to you, forward or give them some of the flyers posted in the action pages. They outline exactly why BO shouldn’t be president and none of them talk about race. If they say that the racism is implied, just tell them that if that’s the case you can see racism everywhere on an every day basis (T.V., radio, movies,…you BO people appear a little racist yourselves!..). After all, who isn’t racist if Bill Clinton is a racist? This is a man who placed his offices in Harlem and has done tons of charitable work in Africa. Was Maya Angelou a racist because she supported HC? If she is then there are a lot of “racist” AA people because many supported HC. If they keep saying it, give them more info and so on and so on. No more backing off. They aren’t prepared to have us fight back. They expect that we will be guilted (real word?) into agreeing with them. I am not a racist, but I could say some really nasty things about the racial attitudes of some of those BO people (who are mostly white). I won’t because I’m a lady (hee hee) and I want to talk about the real issues, not made up drama.

O.K., off to read some more,
Lara08

#89 bellecat on 09.21.08 at 12:59 pm

Dances:

can I have your e-mail address?

so I can e-mail the flyer…

#90 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 1:01 pm

BOBRAM:
I remember hearing from my elder siblings that they used to sing: “A peanut sat on a railroad track,
His heart was all a flutter,
Around the bend came 207,
Toot, toot peanut butter!”

Just a little lightheartedness on a Sunday morning.

#91 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 1:07 pm

Good mourning Pumas.

Talk to my mom yesterday on the way to the Pirate fair. My poor mom hates Obama but she is voting for him because of R vs W. I felt sorry for all the Dem women at that moment. They hate BO but they are trapped by there own fear.

While I am free.
No matter what happens my vote is mine and no one other than myself owns it. That in it self is a real accomplishment.

I feel sorry for Dem women they don’t have equality and they never will.

The poor bar burners they can not enter the land of milk and honey and they worked so hard to get us here and they can’t even see it.

Now that is sad.

#92 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 1:09 pm

lara.. turn the tables on them and tell them that obama and michell are the racists because they believe in a racist black nationalist ideology

#93 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 1:11 pm

taylor..the answer to your question is easy..
because Obama is a crook!!
:lol:

#94 bobram on 09.21.08 at 1:18 pm

LILIBET – that was funny – needed light hearted today – and thanks for the correction on my spelling – trying to type too fast and get started on this project -

Good bye all for a few hours – not checking the posts in case some one is addressing me -

JAJO – great idea to contact TV and Newspapers with Asian4Hillary letter…..

#95 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 1:20 pm

89 bellecat

Send it to actioncenter@pumapac.org
They’ll get it to me, I’m sure. ;)
—————-
Bobram:
sorry about Eau Claire… will look into it and correct.
Thank you
—————-
Lilibet
The make me chuckle too!
Gotta have some fun.
—————-
Worker Bee
Glad you;re having fun with the cash.
Good to see you!
————–
Someone please let MamaPuma know that we’re all watching her. Thanks.

peace. out. again.

#96 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 1:23 pm

Since it was rather slow over here, I want to visit Hillary’s Village and this is what I found.

“Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton remains a major factor in the race.”
Sunday, Sep 21, 2008

Clinton Supporters Never Say Die

CQ Weekly – Vantage Point
September 14, 2008

By Shawn Zeller, CQ Staff

Three months after closing her presidential campaign, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton remains a major factor in the race. The big question is how many of her supporters in the Democratic primaries will transfer their enthusiasm or at least their votes to the party’s nominee, Sen. Barack Obama — especially now that Sen. John McCain is running with a woman, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, as No. 2 on the Republican ticket.

Pollster William Arnone, a former Clinton adviser, has found that many of the New York senator’s backers are still at risk of defecting to McCain. He surveyed 328 of Clinton’s “most fervent” supporters during the week of the GOP convention in St. Paul and found that 77 percent planned to vote for Obama, 11 percent back McCain, and the rest are either undecided or plan to stay home.

Last week, reporters following Clinton on the trail noted how little she criticized Palin, and one group of active Clinton backers even issued a press release defending Palin, saying she had been the victim of media smears because she is a woman.

“The very notion that Sarah Palin should not have accepted this nomination because she is a mother with demanding challenges underscores just how far we have to go,” said leaders of the group, called the WomenCount PAC, which was formed in May to rebut calls for Clinton to get out of the race.

Among those the group cited for smearing Palin were liberal radio host Ed Schultz, Washington Post columnist Sally Quinn and CNN correspondent John Roberts.

WomenCount founder Rosemary Camposano, a former Silicon Valley public relations executive, says the PAC isn’t planning to campaign for Obama and doesn’t even plan to endorse a candidate for president because of the “emotional” nature of the Democratic nominating campaign for many women.

“Our membership is very skewed in how they are going to go,” Camposano says. “By far most will remain loyal to the Democratic Party, but a lot of women feel the Democrats abandoned women and women’s issues. They are mad enough to abstain, write in Hillary Clinton or vote for McCain.”

The group includes a number of female business executives, including Susie Tompkins Buell, founder of the clothing label Esprit; Stacy Mason, a former Washington, D.C., newspaper editor and publisher; and Amy Rao, founder of the tech firm Integrated Archive Systems. And it is supporting a number of Democratic women running for Congress, among them Jeanne Shaheen, the former New Hampshire governor trying to unseat Republican Sen. John E. Sununu.

Camposano says WomenCount’s biggest campaign this fall will be titled “Stop the Silence on Sexism.” She won’t talk about details, but the group is still hopping mad at Howard Dean, the Democratic National Committee chairman, and at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for not doing more to defend Clinton from what Camposano calls “outright bashing.” Both party leaders, she said, were “incredibly disloyal.”

Meanwhile, another group of Clinton backers, calling themselves Democrats For Principle Before Party, has already bought space for a print ad in the battleground state of Michigan aimed at undermining Obama, and is pledging more to come. “Can the country trust a presidential candidate who is the product of a corrupt process?” asks the ad, which ran in the Lansing State Journal.

Heidi Li Feldman, a Georgetown University Law School professor who co-founded the group, ran ads in major Washington publications, including CQ Today, in advance of the Democrats’ Denver convention to pressure party leaders to give Clinton a vote at the convention. Ultimately party leaders acquiesced, but Feldman says Dean and the Obama campaign intimidated Clinton delegates and pressured the New York senator to release her supporters from their obligation to vote for her. The vote was short-circuited when Clinton called for Obama’s nomination by acclamation.

Feldman says she is now rallying support to have Clinton elevated to Senate majority leader next year, in place of Harry Reid of Nevada, and to have Dean removed as chairman of the DNC. All the energy the group put into winning Clinton a convention vote “is now going to be channeled into making sure the Democratic Party does not inherit such incompetent leadership as we have had to endure this election season,” she says. ###

(Sent by Rosa, footsoldier from NYC)

#97 LaureyPuma on 09.21.08 at 1:25 pm

Gypsy4Mc, would you please email me your list when you are finished? I am doing one also, a side by side comparison of McCain’s experience, accomplishments with Obie. I feel overwhelmed with it. laureyontheprowl@gmail.com

Thank you

#98 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 1:26 pm

Bobram
No Eau Claire on the listing you sent

#99 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 1:27 pm

Welcome SunnySanteFe!
Love that town!

#100 Nijma on 09.21.08 at 1:36 pm

Why is everyone touting the Factcheck website?
Isn’t it from Annenburg=Ayers=Obama?

#101 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 1:36 pm

NObama’s friends are people you don’t want to be associated with not unless you hate America and white people.

Watch this video, its enough to scare the living daylight out of you, you will have an inkling what kind of government we have if some people out there are foolish enough to vote for NObama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfRb87dtY4

#102 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 1:37 pm

Media Caught Fabricating White Racists?

http://faultlineusa.blogspot.com/2008/09/media-caught-fabricating-white-racists.html

#103 scarlet on 09.21.08 at 1:38 pm

Campaign Tracker
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/tracker/candidates/barack-obama/states/

Obama is scheduled to be in Green Bay WI tomorrow according to Campaign Tracker.
Green Bay message boards:

http://www.topix.com/city/green-bay-wi

#104 FLGirl on 09.21.08 at 1:39 pm

SOMEONE SEND THIS
This big push is to push the McCain/Palin ticket over the top because Obama is infiltrating Pennsylvania beyond belief and if Obama also gets Virginia,
then we get President Obama. It is a free event! We plan to have Democratic women speaking at the event as well as others with Cindy McCain on the big screen with a special address among other speakers and media
being arranged. Working out some surprises now!

CELEBRATE VIRGINIA
Oct. 2, Thursday night, doors open 7 pm, debate at 9 pm
parking available on site Fredericksburg Big Expo Center (in Central Park Shopping District (several blocks of all kinds of outlet stores)

Multi BIG SCREEN showing of Palin vs. Biden
in VP Debate

Food and beverages will be available on site
Women for Palin and McCain gear on site
Democratic Hillary supporters MOST Welcome

Goal: To pack thousands up to the legal capacity of the Expo

Get a car pull, drive a little over a hour from MD, less from DC, Northern and Lower Virginia
Any democrat welcome from any state to visit historic Fredericksburg, visit the battlefields and make it an early weekend to party with us, shop and visit the historic battlefields!

We are working out press and other details now and I am thrilled on just how wonderful the Stafford County Republican party has welcomed this democrat without any attempt to push me to their side. Campaigning in the region this weekend I have found these women and men to VERY MUCH RESPECT Sen. Hillary Clinton. Many of them have expressed the hope to push for Hillary to have some major role in a McCain administration. Most
certainly, Palin has deep respect for her and likes some important aspects of her platform even though she does not agree with other major things.
Outside of abortion, Sarah is very much PRO women’s issues.

Men are most wanted and most welcome as this is not just a femal event!
Make it a family event.

TICKET ARE FREE AT http://www.FREDGOP.com and we are assuming the EXPO will fill quick. I need you DEMS in Fredericksburg as we are more central and hope
to spin the whole state. The goal is to follow with a DEM/Republican Palin blog talk radio show through the month of October and election eve while we
await the VA and country results.

#105 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 1:39 pm

asia4..
..did you hear the latest news about the “bailout”..
they have announced the USA will include foreign banks that have instituions here in the USA in the bailout..

#106 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 1:40 pm

Annenberg is a rich philantropist that funded improvement for education in Chicago. Ayers seek funding from Annenberg. Obama doesn’t own Annenberg.

#107 NobamaNetwork on 09.21.08 at 1:41 pm

A little humor for today, The And and the Grasshopper

http://www.nobamanetwork.com/

#108 Seattlegirl on 09.21.08 at 1:43 pm

#18 Headclunker I have had it with the old line feminists too. At least they are being exposed for the irrelevant air heads they are and regardless of how this election turns out I think women will end up with a more intelligent group to represent real women. By the way I got another phone call from NOW yesterday and told them exactly what I thought of them and BO.

#109 joenewhaven on 09.21.08 at 1:47 pm

Hello all. More PUMA news….

“A group of Hillary Rodham Clinton supporters condemned the National Organization for Women’s endorsement of Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr. last week.”

http://patriotroom.com/?p=2239

#110 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 1:48 pm

Osaka puma

Yes I read it, Let the freaking foreign countries bailout their own banks. Not unless the US government control those foreign banks after bailing them out. I’m looking at this in a different angle which may not be agreeable to a lot of people, but I can see what’s the purpose of USA in doing it.

Bear in mind, USA is a TRUE follower of Machiavelli. The US government will not do anything that is not advantageous to them in the long run. This country is no fool, the few people running this country are very very intelligent and sly. BTW, the President is not the one running this country, he’s just a messenger. Go back to history after WW2 how USA send its own people around the world to establish finance institutions. USA is very protective of its own interest, we may not appreciate it right now, but count 10 years from now and we’ll see the impact of their decision.

I LOVE AMERICA!! This country is ALWAYS five steps ahead !!!! ha! :lol:

#111 NoHillaryNoVote on 09.21.08 at 1:49 pm

The votes I worry about & that I think will be very significant are the college students voting on campuses around the U.S. From what I’ve read students came out during the primaries in large numbers for BO. I’m guessing it’s attractive to college students to vote for BO as a vote against the establishment.
Students are a block of votes that are not probably well-represented in the various polls and I suspect that if they were more included in the polls would probably be heavy BO. BO’s camp is doing heavy recruiting on the campuses to make sure that the students register to vote.
Over the next weeks, any articles you read discussing the college vote’s impact – please post here for the rest of us to read.

#112 Ronan on 09.21.08 at 1:50 pm

Man. Ty each and everyone of you for you vigiliance. At the end of a day and an evening, I come to this space for sanity. Ty. I a deeply grateful.

#113 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 1:53 pm

So it is coming down to the wire Pumas:

According to CNN on Sept 21:
…in the key battleground states where the race will likely be decided, the two presidential contenders could hardly be closer
With six weeks to go until Election Day, just released CNN poll of polls out of Florida and Ohio, as well as a new survey out of Missouri, suggest the race for the White House just may be headed for a photo finish…

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
*********************************************

Can anyone kindly summarize what action plan(s) PumaPAC have organized so far regarding these key battleground states?

#114 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 1:54 pm

Oh, oh, the Obot Gallup Poll loses a point to McCain :)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110554/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Leading-McCain-Points.aspx

I can’t find any data on their sampling pool. On the “contact” form, I emailed the following query:

“Why don’t you show how many Republicans, Democrats, and Independents were polled? Without this information, how can I possibly have any confidence in your results?”

If by chance Gallup actually does provide data on how many dems, repubs, and indies are polled, could you give me the link?

#115 Seattlegirl on 09.21.08 at 1:55 pm

#91 shampoovta : Agreed! I too consider the old line feminists pathetic and irrelevant at this point. By now they are no longer fertile and many are lesbians. So how do they come up with this idea that abortion rights are the be all and end all of women’s issues when they can’t possibly need an abortion? They aren’t even bothered by the fact that BO pays women in his office less than men! They don’t even demand that he immediately stop that behavior and give these women back wages! They just follow like a bunch of pathetic little sheep. BO seems to attract hate filled men and frightened women.

#116 indy on 09.21.08 at 1:57 pm

Lara #88,

Two weeks ago, I was reading the Washington Post and an article from Professor Kennedy, (calling those not supporting Obama because he is black) got my ire.

He used Obama’s last resort talking point: the race card. This was my response, (I turned the table on him) I posted some of it here yesterday about Obama’s , but here goes:

“YOU are not supporting Obama for the content of his character.

If you were judging him for the content of his character, then how do you reconcile Obama’s:

1. Lack of experience: Obama’s record in the Illinois state senate was unremarkable. His voting over 100 times “present” not only shows his lack of a backbone on a stance but kowtowing to “business as usual” in the political arena. I know, I know, the Illinois politicians say that’s how it works there, but voting present is just a cowards way out of making a difficult decision. Obama spent just 143 days in the US Senate before announcing his run for POTUS. His time in the Senate is unremarkable just as in the state senate. I understand that some senators are annoyed because after months and sometimes years working hard to craft a Bill, Obama comes in at the last minute and adds his name to the Bill. As Chairman of a Foreign Relations subcommittee, Obama has not held one hearing or meeting. When asked by a reporter, Obama’s reply was “I’m too busy campaigning for President.” Is that what we pay him to do in Washington?

2. Questionable Relationships: Obama’s relationship to REZKO (known in Illinois as The Fixer and as Obama has called him many times as his Political Godfather). The Obama/Rezko relationship is more than Obama writing 5 letters for him as he has stated. Their friendship, yes, friendship (Obama had also called him many times his “friend”)goes back 20 years. Rezko is was Obama’s chief fundraiser. Rezko had ll slum buildings in Obama’s state senate district at the time. One building didn’t have heat in the dead of winter (due to non-payment of an elec. bill)but Rezko still contributed money then to Obama’s campaign. Nice. And Obama took it. Nice. Rezko introduced Obama to nice people also, i.e., Auchi, Alsammarae two Iraqis with big money. Rezko borrowed $3.5 million from Auchi a month before he and Obama bought the mansion and lot. Obama had a “note-taker” at Rezko’s trial daily, for 3 months (confirmed by Obama, the note-taker to reporters). There’s more about Rezko, but let’s move on. AYERS. The Obama and Ayers relationship goes back to the 1980′s and possibly to the early 80′s. Obama is very concerned about this coming out because he has tried to stop ads showing their connection by filing a lawsuit for those ads to stop. Thou doth protest too much. Ayers appointed Obama as Chairman to school iniative group which was an arm of Ayers group. Ayers would hire and a guy(Obama), he does not know, who is few years out of law school, with a thin resume, to Chair a group responsible for dispensing millions of dollars for school iniatives? Obama holds his first fundraiser in 1995 in Ayres home. They serve on the Woods Fund handing out millions in grants, one to Obama’s boss Alison Davis for $1 million (Obama should have abstained from voting as another member did. Obama voted) Obama moved into Ayers neighborhood. When questioned of the Ayers ties Obama says their kids go to school together. Ayers kids are grown ups. Obama says he was only 8 when Ayers bombed the Pentagon and wreaked havoc on America as head of the Weather Underground. How old was Obama in the 1980s, in 1995, in 2001 when Ayers said in the NYT that he wished he had bombed more, in 2005 when he moved into Ayers neighborhood? While Obama was at Columbia his closest friends were Pakistanis. They are still his friends. They are in his campaign as “bundlers.” Obama went to Pakistan with one when he was 20 and may have used an Indonesian passport. (There is a lawsuit filed in US Court to determine this and whether he is really a native born American). Do you notice a pattern here of who Obama’s friends are? Even Valerie Jarrett who helps run Obama’s campaign and is Michelle’s boss at Univ of Chicago, is Iranian born. There’s more but let’s move on.

3. Obama’s (now legendary) flip-flopping: FISA bill, NAFTA, Public Campaign Financing, Town Meetings, Cuba embargo, Jerusalem, Iranian threat, gun control, the death penalty, Iraq timeline, off-shore drilling, tapping the US oil reserves, his Russia/Georgia position.

These are just some of the many reasons I will not be voting for Obama and I must assure you as somebody who has voted for black candidates many times it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. It is rather the lack of content of his character.”

Sorry for the long post, but Kennedy waltzed right into it. And if some Obama supporter gets in my face, I will sit them down and tell them why I will not support Obama. I hope they have a couple of hours.

#117 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 1:59 pm

It appears that the is begging for a prowl. Fabricating stories to fit your agenda is certainly not professional. Even worse, is using someone’s name and attributing remarks to them that they never made is also calumny.

#118 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:01 pm

godzilla.. the polls are volatile and see-saw back and forth..
dont you think that could change dramatically if some bad stuff comes out about obama.. there is so much of it out there i would be surprised if mccain doesnt use it

#119 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 2:01 pm

That should be the-St, Petersburg Times-. I put it in brackets, so it was left out.

#120 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 2:03 pm

GODZILLE
I understand princetown is the most

#121 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 2:03 pm

….reliable

#122 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 2:05 pm

#111 NoHillaryNoVote

I am a non-traditional full-time college student at a community college here in MD.

My take on the college vote is that it’s overblown. I believe the interest was due to academically lax summer months. The election will happen right around fall mid-terms and that will interfere with the voting turn out. Also, the fall semester is a new or repeat social blending time for new and current students – time to go out and party and mingle. I seriously doubt that they will choose voting over that. Their level of committment is just not that high. I can almost guarantee with certainty that the only reason many of them are ground troops is because of the pay and because they are not directly monitored for results. I’m sure they all have strong ideas and preferences, but are not involved enough in the political process to actually turn out at the polling place.

JMHO!

(sorry about the jumbled nature of the post – I’m doing Ed Psych homework too)

#123 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:07 pm

maryland..
you should be working for rasmussen!! :)

#124 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:10 pm

Mick – If you’re around, post a note and I’ve got an idea for you!

#125 LaureyPuma on 09.21.08 at 2:10 pm

Happy Sunday Your northern neighbor!

Does anyone have the link to the American Sentinal petition re: Obama and the Logan Act violation?

I sent mine, and also to others, I have more people to send to and I cannot find it in the blogs.

Thank you!

#126 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:11 pm

i think palin will do just fine against joe biden in the debates..i’m concerned though about mccain,hope he connect with americans and not come across as another nixon in the nixon-kennedy debates

#127 Seattlegirl on 09.21.08 at 2:11 pm

At work I always have college student helpers over the summer and none of them were BOites. In fact they felt his followers were sort of creepy/silly in their almost religious devotion. I hope I influenced many of them to check out PUMA.org daily to find interesting articles outside the MSM on the the election. But these kids are smart and they don’t need to be told to look at non MSM sources, it is part of their nature.

#128 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 2:14 pm

Hey Murphy, no words of wisdom at the top post today?

Good morning PUMAs.

#129 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:14 pm

seattle..unfortunately with young people popular culture and peer pressure greatly affects them..
i mean no one wants to be “uncool” right?
because the new cool in the popular culture is obama..
just hoping enough comes out about obama that will turn them off to him

#130 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 2:15 pm

osaka puma:
Are you assuming that Obama will be akin to Kennedy?

No worry about McCain. He can think on his feet and give direct answers.
Hopefully they wont give McCain all the questions first so that Obama can agree with him, a la Obama-hillary debates.

#131 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 2:15 pm

#120 storytellers, I can’t find any information on Princeton Polls. Rasmussen is ranked high:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/pollster-ratings-v311.html

#132 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:18 pm

lilibet.. do i ever hope you are right!
i heard on a local radio talk show last week that the moderator for the debate is in the tank for obama..that has me very concerned

#133 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 2:20 pm

Just to let y’all know. Prowland finally got her electric back. She is back to managing her website if you want to welcome her back http//mcpalinmavericks.wordpress.com

I know I am glad to see her back. Now I can take a rest :lol:

#134 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 2:21 pm

sorry I forgot the colon for the link. It is http://mcpalinmavericks.wordpress.com

#135 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:21 pm

texas..thanks for the link.. by the way what is the purpose of prowlands blog?

#136 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 2:22 pm

Hey Laurey

It is always great to run into you!
I am happy to see many more new Pumas on here and I just wish more of the original Pumas would join in. :roll:

#137 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 2:22 pm

#122 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 2:05 pm

#111 NoHillaryNoVote

I am a non-traditional full-time college student at a community college here in MD.
————–
Funny you should mention that as I drink my wake up coffee (West Coast, stayed up late last night :roll: )

When you posted a week or so ago mentioning school and homework and not much time for the blog…I wondered how many Obots were back to school and knowing how many first time voters may not follow though when it comes time to going to the polls in November…I started snooping around the obie site and see that there are many moms trying to cover this situation. They are getting the mail in forms for their kids, making them fill it out, and taking the form and mailing it for them. I wonder how many are doing this, pressure from mom to make their kids vote for Obama? My 24 year old son has gotten quite an earful on the PUMA movement and at least considers the concept that Obama is not the holly One. I asked him if he would vote for him, he said he is not going to vote in the General. He then got an earful on how that is a right he should never take lightly, no matter who he chooses to vote for. I may try to tell him the truth about Obama’s corruption but I would never force him to vote for anyone.

#138 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:23 pm

texassherry – thank you so much for that update. have been thinking her. geez. what a long haul. and once you get your electric back, there’s so much to do related to having lost it in the first place, not to mention all the other clean up so many victims of Ike have had to face.

#139 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 2:23 pm

#115 Seattlegirl

My mom is scared. Plain scares the crap out of her yet she fought all of her life for this moment.

She understands what I am doing and she doesn’t try to stop me. The fact that her daughter is being tagged as a racist, bitch, fake liberal makes her hate the Dems.

It wouldn’t take much to tip the scales. Obama is just the one to push more women over the edge.

One big screw up by Obama and they will turn on him. I see that now. It is just a matter of time.

The old feminists can only take women so far after that it is up to us to go the rest of the way.

That is my mission.

#140 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 2:24 pm

#135 osaka puma,

It is a place where pumas can go to support McCain without disrupting this blog and taking focus off of the goals here. It is just one of the extensions of the Just Say No Coalition.

#141 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:25 pm

thanks for the info texas!

#142 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 2:25 pm

#138 Anna7000,

Yea, she has to do laundry and restock her freezer since she couldn’t do either one without electric. I feel for her.

#143 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 2:27 pm

A Call For Hearings Into Senator Barack Obama’s Violation Of The Logan Act
Write a Letter to Congress : 5,664 Letters Sent So Far

http://www.rallycongress.com/americansentinel/1223/a-call-for-hearings-into-senator-barack-obamas-violation-of-the-logan-act/

#144 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:28 pm

asian4..make that 5,665!

#145 lilibet on 09.21.08 at 2:29 pm

I hope that this has not already been posted. Does any one have any comments about any of these moderators?

First presidential debate

Friday, September 26

The University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.

Jim Lehrer

Executive Editor and Anchor, The NewsHour, PBS

Vice presidential debate

Thursday, October 2

Washington University in St. Louis, Mo.

Gwen Ifill

Senior Correspondent, The NewsHour, and Moderator and Managing Editor, Washington Week, PBS

Second presidential debate (town meeting)

Tuesday, October 7

Belmont University, Nashville, Tenn.

Tom Brokaw

Special Correspondent, NBC News

Third presidential debate

Wednesday, October 15

Hofstra University, Hempstead, N.Y.

Bob Schieffer

CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent, and Host, Face the Nation

Each debate will begin at 9:00 p.m. EDT.

Format

The format for the debates, announced on November 21, 2007, will be:

· Each debate will have a single moderator and last for 90 minutes.

· In the first and third presidential debates and the vice presidential debate, the candidates will be seated with the moderator at a table.

· One presidential debate will focus primarily on domestic policy and one presidential debate will focus primarily on foreign policy. The second presidential debate will be held as a town meeting in which citizens will pose questions to the candidates. The vice presidential debate will cover both foreign and domestic topics.

· During the first and third presidential debates, and the vice presidential debate, the time will be divided into eight, ten-minute segments. The moderator will introduce each segment with an issue on which each candidate will comment, after which the moderator will facilitate further discussion of the issue, including direct exchange between the candidates for the balance of that segment.

· The participants in the town meeting will pose their questions to the candidates after reviewing their questions with the moderator for the sole purpose of avoiding duplication. The participants will be chosen by the Gallup Organization and will be undecided voters from the Nashville, Tenn. standard metropolitan statistical area. During the town meeting, the moderator has discretion to use questions submitted by Internet.

· Time at the end of the final presidential debate will be reserved for closing statements.

#146 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 2:29 pm

#132 osaka puma wrote:

“lilibet.. do i ever hope you are right!
i heard on a local radio talk show last week that the moderator for the debate is in the tank for obama..that has me very concerned”

In a way that is good. If they played it strait It would be hard to prove. Bottom feeding in the tank just makes filthy fish. They can’t cover that stink.

#147 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:30 pm

asian4..
im puzzled why the US atty general has not investigated these charges..they are very serious charges indeed

#148 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 2:30 pm

New State Poll in Florida: McCain up by 2:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/695102.html

That means that McCain is really up by 5 (remember the PUMA factor).

#149 EWard on 09.21.08 at 2:31 pm

#122 MarylandPuma

Well said!

#150 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:31 pm

godzilla.. thats good news..i feel confident mccain will carry FLA

#151 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 2:33 pm

#116 indy
Lara #88,
————-
Awesome letter. Anyway this could also include the connection to ACORN and voter fraud going on ………
and be made really shortened an into a flyer.

I know that is a tall order, but I don’t think many people will question voting against Obama if they are given facts and proof.

#152 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 2:33 pm

#147 osaka puma

AG should do it but he wouldn’t due to the fact this is a Bush Administration, the Democrats will accuse the administration of “Witch hunt</b”, so these falls on ordinary citizens like us to do it. Why do you think Nancy Pelosi removed impeachment of Bush off the table? Start thinking, you’ll see the true picture. The Democratic Party actually is the biggest crook in Washington. They’re ready to let this country go under to stay in power. We just have to cut their legs.

#153 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 2:34 pm

#150 osaka, and Palin is rocking Florida today.

http://thevillagesdailysun.com/articles/2008/09/21/news/news01.txt

At least 18,000 tickets given out.

#154 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 2:36 pm

#148 Godzilla

Yep I remember how off the polls were against Hillary.

I don’t think it is racism. At my work there are plenty that are just quietly waiting to vote McCain. They just don’t want some Dem up in there face or there boss is a Obama supporter so they just keep to themselves.

But they talk to me.

#155 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:36 pm

THANKS to all who are working so hard to provide state by state media contacts in the AC! Wow! Is that your work, Bobram, in conjunction with Dances? Not sure who all is involved in that but just checked it out and it’s amazing. I’m totally blown away! Thank you! Great resource and helps us be more targeted in our actions!

#156 maxgrader on 09.21.08 at 2:36 pm

“Sometimes when everything seems wrong and the deck seems stacked against us, the only thing to do is to start a fight. Get the juices flowin with our girl Pink this morning”

So, is PUMA of the Pink persuasion? Among other colloquial misgivings she says Sarah Palin hates women.

How about Striesand, Damon, Anderson and Chase? Are their Sarah Palin commentary fair and acceptable to PUMA?

I’d like to know.

#157 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:37 pm

“I don’t think many people will question voting against Obama if they are given facts and proof.”

Oh, how I wish that were true. Unfortunately, loads of “proof” has already been exposed (Ayers, Wright, Rezko, flip flopping, etc) and no one seems fazed. It’s a strange time, indeed. JMHO.

#158 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 2:38 pm

The downturn of our economy, has MORE to do with Democratic lead Congress than Bush. It is the legislative branch who write bills from national security, economics (banking and finance), infrastructures, education, etc etc. The job of the President (executive branch) is to sign it into law.

When people understand the function of THREE Branches of our government, they’ll see the TRUE PICTURE who is SLEEPING ON THE JOB – DEMOCRATIC LEAD CONGRESS.

#159 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 2:38 pm

#123 Osaka Puma – LOL LOL – I don’t have time!

#137 BillieJo – nice to see ya! Honestly, I think our economy tanking this week has turned parental attention to things other than the election – like putting food on the table and keeping the roof over our heads – especially since neither candidate (nor the rest of joe public) understands what in the hell happened or how to fix it or prevent it again. Unless that parent physically takes that child to the polling place, I doubt many will show up – they’ll just say they did. We’ve ALL done that before in our youth haven’t we? LOL

#160 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 2:39 pm

#156 Maxgrader

I think it was more a reflection of the song not the artist. :)

#161 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 2:41 pm

Has anyone heard from Jeremy since hurricane Ike? He is the only Texas puma I haven’t see on here since then. Does anyone know if he is okay?

#162 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:41 pm

Texas Tigress, Snowtiger, MissyPUMA, Hillstheone, BarbNOBO, Gypsy

You’ll have mail (don’t forget to check spam). No need to respond unless you don’t have something from me today, then please do let me know.

#163 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 2:42 pm

I don’t think college students will be enthusiastic going to the poll voting for NObama or send their remaining money in their wallet. A lot of these college students have student loans, how can they pay for their tuition this fall when banks are holding on to their money to stay afloat. NObama never talk about how collapse of our banking system affects students relying on student loan from financial institutions.

#164 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:42 pm

texassherry – seems i hadn’t seen jeremy on here for long before ike hit…..

#165 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 2:43 pm

#158 Asian4Hillary

THANK YOU! I’m of like mind on that one. And that’s my rebuttal to everyone who wants to place ALL the blame on the Republicans. (and I am NOT a Republican but a fair minded voter who can see the forest AND the trees!)

Blaming the republicans is how the Democrats delude themselves. They blind themselves to the corruption in their own party by blaming someone else. No wonder BO is their candidate (NOT MINE!).

The fault lies with both parties and the partisan bickering. The fault lies with lazy ass Nancy Pelosi who wants to go on vacation during times of intense crisis for the American taxpayer or offer meaningless platitudes when asked where she/the Dems stand.

Abominable.

#166 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 2:43 pm

#164 Anna7000,

Thanks. I will email Murphy and see if she knows. I don’t have an email for him.

#167 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 2:43 pm

Many things is getting hit, one of them are student grants. NObama hasn’t offered any solution. He never talk about 401K these young people now in the workforce contribute to their pension.

#168 maxgrader on 09.21.08 at 2:46 pm

#160

Thank you Maryland PUMA.

I was hoping to hear something like that.

#169 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:51 pm

godzilla..
rock is a good word..i hope they “rock around the clock” until election day in FLA ..
i bet that sarah would look good dressed up in a rock star outfit.. that is one beautiful woman!

#170 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 2:53 pm

Posted link above.
Article on how to turn PUMAs into Obama voters on Huffpo. (This is a joke and will get your blood boiling)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/eat-crow-hell-yes-to-win_b_126712.html

If you’ve been an outspoken Obama supporter from the beginning, it’s time to make amends with Hillary supporters you know. Arguing with, or browbeating them to get on board is counterproductive, but showing you’ve come around to respecting Hillary may ease their hurt enough to do the trick. (Even if you don’t mean it. This is politics.)
————
This is my reply…………………………
What a great article, this falls right into the heart of why Hillary supporters will do their best to make sure your faux “Lord and Savior Barack Obama” will not win the General Election.
This is no game plan, and you haven’t even touched on the issues as to why this strategy will not work on ‘PUMAs. Talk to them about the caucus fraud in the primary election, http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/ , then the suppression of Clinton Delegate votes at the Democratic Convention…yes, we have proof…letters written by delegates for all states. That on top of the sexism towards women candidates and the corruption of the DNC………….and you will have a real conversation with PUMAs and not the trite dribble that is in this article.
Most PUMAs are educated adults and not the silly mindless people you think they are. Good luck on this plan. Hahahaha.

#171 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 2:54 pm

#157 Anna7000

This is the Kool Aid metaphor of witch we all speak. You can not convince them and they are doomed sooner or later it will come back to haunt them. I will be there when that happens.

You can not abandon reason and expect to escape the consequences.

Sooner or later no matter the out come of the race Obama will fail them as he already has. The only reason he is still afloat it the anger at the Repubs and the blind love of the Obamatrons.

That can not stay aloft for long. It is just hot air.

#172 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:55 pm

billie jo..what are you trying to do kill us with the boiling blood? :lol:
there goes the blood pressure!

#173 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 2:55 pm

#159 Maryland PUMA
BillieJo – nice to see ya!

((((Maryland))))) good to see you too. Miss you around the blog but understand why.

#174 indy on 09.21.08 at 2:56 pm

Lilibet (I forgot the number):

Out of the moderators for the debates listed, the only one I think will be fair is Bob Schieffer. The times I’ve seen him reporting on TV, he didn’t seem to take sides.

All I ask for is an even playing field.

#175 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 2:57 pm

There may be a live feed of the Palin rally at The Villages today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2087062/posts

Upwards of 30,000 people expected. Supposedly the MyFox website will have video. MyFox can be accessed from the freerepublic link pasted in here.

#176 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 2:59 pm

#172 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 2:55 pm

billie jo..what are you trying to do kill us with the boiling blood? :lol:
there goes the blood pressure!
————
More like stress relief. :lol:
I like just like going over there and popping their balloon.

Snag, swipe………………….. pop!

#177 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:00 pm

Asian4Hillary:
What are you talking about referring to student grants and student loans?

I think you are confusing some stuff….

#178 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:02 pm

Here’s the live feed page. Rally is already in progress.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7479175&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Sarah Palin is scheduled to speak at 3 PM eastern time.

#179 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:03 pm

#165 Maryland PUMA

We need more moderates in Congress from both sides of the party. We cannot allow ourselves to be continually hoodwink and bamboozled by politicians like Pelosi, Kerry, Rangel and others who are there in Congress to serve their selves and their own party instead of the people.

This could have been averted if Senate lead Congress pass the Senate Resolution John MCCain co-sponsored with Dole and Sununu. This problem has its roots in the 90′s during Clinton Administration when he removed regulation with Fannie Mae to make it accessible for people to get housing loan even if they have bad credit history. That’s the time subprime lending start growing like mushroom. Then democrats wrote regulations, the problem banking regulations they’ve written has too many loopholes, it was useless; too many regulations overlapping with each other which is to the advantage of scrupulous people in finance business.

A lot of people at this in haphazard fashion, they blame Bush right away. Actually its not his fault, the blame lies with our Legislative Branch of the Government – CONGRESS, but never Pelosi said right away “ don’t blame us“, Reid said, “ we don’t know what to do“. Solution of Democratic lead Congress? “They’re going on vacation starting September 26 and won’t be back in Congress until after November4. These people have just come back from their 5 WEEKS PAID VACATION, they’re having another vacation when they should be in Congress right now finding a solution to our financial problem. They’re like freaking rats, abandoning their own ship but EXPECT the American people to vote for them so they can stay in power and continue their stupidity!

#180 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 3:06 pm

I think McCain hurt himself this week with his comments and demeanor. He came across as not having a clue or viable solution.

It was all heated, possibly wreckless, rhetoric with no sense of understanding this situation. He also is now touting regulation when he’s been one of the biggest de-regulators in congress.

And “NO”, I’m not a BOT. Nobama won the week. IMHO

#181 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 3:07 pm

#179 Asian4Hillary

Amen! Twice! Burns me up.

I’m off to take my daughter to a college-sponsored Family Day for a while.

Be back later – with some regenerated brain cells hopefully!

Be nice to each other – keep the claws in the paws!

#182 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:08 pm

I like the music at the Palin rally.

#183 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 3:08 pm

179 Asian4Hillary “While the cats away, the mice will play.” How can we make sure their vacations are permanent?

#184 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:08 pm

asian4…
..obama,congress,bail outs etc etc..
theres an underlying theme that runs thoughout all these things.. and that is that they truly think the american people are a bunch of stupid dumbed-down spineless cowards who are too busy getting obese or sitting around watching american idol or some sports event and are too gutless to fight back..thats why they so boldly spit in the face of the american public

#185 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:09 pm

#180 heysandy

Constructive criticism makes us Kool Aid free thinkers.

#186 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:09 pm

#183 Alice1943

Vote them out of Office!

#187 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:11 pm

Godzilla – Thanks for the link. I waited for several minutes, but the video never came up. Bummer. Anyone else have that problem? Should I wait even longer?

#188 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:12 pm

asian4.. the goverment just prints more money!

#189 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:13 pm

hey sandy – i agree and am concerned about the ultimate outcome of the election for the reasons (among others) that you noted.

dem4hillary – good to see you!

#190 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:13 pm

#189 osaka puma

Printing more money causes inflation, lowers purchasing power of the dollar.

#191 GBPuma on 09.21.08 at 3:13 pm

Such a laugh…Obama and the Obama-bots love to keep mentioning that McCain voted 90% with the Party Line…..but they just forget to mention that Obama likes to do the Party Line even more with 95-96%..and that 90% is Mid-Low level Party Line voting………lol

The facts: Voting with their parties:
These scores represent the percentage of votes on which a lawmaker agrees with the position taken by a majority of his or her party members. The scores do not include missed votes. All lawmakers who served during this congress are included.
Party Voting Averages 110 th Congress
• 87.6% Democratic (49 members)
• 80.8% Republican (51 members)
• 89.1% Independent (2 members)
• 84.3% All Members (102 members)
Voting by Member
110th Congress: 96.0% 12th Highest of all Senators Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
109th Congress 94.8% …tied for 4th Highest of all Senators Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)

John McCain for last 6 Congresses:
110th: 88.3% 37th lowest of all Senators Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
109th: 79.4% 7th lowest of all Senators Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
108th: 84.5% 8th lowest of all Senators Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
107th: 76.2% 7th lowest of all Senators Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
106th: 83.1% 11th lowest of all Senators Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
105th: 83.6% 13th lowest of all Senators Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)

Obama’s complete list of votes against the Party…not much at all, a really very short list for his career as a US Senator..LOL
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/against-party/

So who is it that votes Party Line and who is it that Votes across the isle?

#192 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:14 pm

#188 Anna7000

Yes. I tried to copy the embed and it vanished. I just refreshed.

It is just a little touchy

#193 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 3:14 pm

#186 shampoovta

Thanks (I think)!

McCain needs to get his act together on the economy or he’s toast with everything he’s up against. Nobama’s taking no prisoners. That’s all I’m trying to say.

#194 Missy on 09.21.08 at 3:14 pm

have only had time to scan these blogs for the last couple of weeks, so I am just wondering:
are we going to do a prowl with respect to fraudulent voter registration? Maybe I have missed it?
There has been some talk about ACORN both on the media and what I have read here on the blogs. Since it is getting down to brass tacks at this point, do you think a prowl *before* the election would keep the states on their toes about prevention, and/or initiating a checks and balances system. FOX News reported (I think it was John Fund) this a.m. that “provisional” voting, now legal in all states is going to pose a real problem.
Anyway, just wanted to throw the idea out there to see if we are interested in or capable of making a dent in a “we are watching campaign.”

#195 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:15 pm

#188 Anna7000, check the troubleshooting links that on that page. Maybe you have to download an updated plugin.

#196 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:15 pm

Is anyone else having trouble posting? It’s really slow and I get a square image of the u-tube for a while, etc, etc. Just slow and clunky. Am I the only one who’s experiencing this?

#197 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:16 pm

It looks hot in Florida they all got fans.

The place is filling up it looks to me.

#198 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:17 pm

Well, since it’s already 3 PM Eastern Time, I guess Sarah Palin will be speaking later :)

#199 LandiPUMA on 09.21.08 at 3:18 pm

Please delete #190. It makes us look very bad, especially being in ALL CAPS, which implies shouting and draws attention.

#200 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:18 pm

#188 Anna7000, you can also try another browser, like Firefox, if you’re using IE.

#201 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 3:19 pm

QUESTION: – MURPHY – ANYONE!!!

I will be out of country from Fri, 26 Sept till Fri, 17 Oct. on vacation. I will not have a lot of computer time, and the only cable news I will be able to get will be CNN.

Is there anyway possible that someone could post a short Highlites of the Day, especially on the debate days?

#202 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 3:20 pm

New flyers up by TrishInCanada, Godzilla, and BillieJo.

Wisconsin and multiple states’TV contacts lists is complete and posted now. Bobram is tackling newspapers now.
(Anna7000, yes the TV listings in Media is the result of Bobram’s efforts, excepting Nevada… that’s one of NVPuma’s contributions).

Presidential and VP debate schedule is posted (Elections section)

Numerous political documents have been posted, brought to us by the tirelessTrishInCanada.

New funny money, brought to you by me, is also up.

http://pumapac.org?action_center.html

bye. see you later.

#203 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 3:21 pm

Looks like a lot of younger people in Fl at the Palin speech. I am a bit surprised they are doing country music in FL.

#204 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:22 pm

#204 Middle age female

I’m sure Murphy will post the whole transcript of the debate. But if she doesn’t, I will try to look for the transcript and save it for you, okay? :)

#205 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:22 pm

Godzilla – You are so sweet to try to help. Sadly, I am a technological primitive. No skills. No interest. No patience. Not a Luddhite, just….ugh. Don’t know what a “plugin” is nor exactly the role of a “browser”. I do have other talents and skills, though, just not related to computers. Time to call inthe troops: My Husband!

#206 LandiPUMA on 09.21.08 at 3:22 pm

…………………………………………………….
******* DEFEATING BO *******
…………………………………………………….

> We need to focus a lot of our efforts on the battleground (swing) states (esp OH, PA, FL, VA, CO, MI, WI, MN, NM, etc)

There are many things we can do, such as…

► Write & send persuasive emails w/links, – Forward good articles, – Email the media (see Action Center for media addresses and Talking Points to include in emails)… also – blog & post comments all over Web.

► Talk to & phone people, – go door-to-door, – distribute flyers (get ‘em in the Action Center), – reach out to key voting blocs (HRC-voters, Latinos, seniors, women, etc), – work w/groups doing effective “anti-BO” campaigning (including http://www.johnmccain.com/ to get phone lists, donate, etc)

……………………………………………

> See my complete ACTION LIST in the Action Center, under “Landi’s Strategies to Defeat Obama”:
http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

(the home page for Action Center: http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html)
……………………………………………..

#207 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 3:23 pm

Well, gettin’ a little too heated for a Sunday. The Steelers are playing at 4:15, and I’m gonna get the beer cold and the snacks ready. Have a good rest of the afternoon all. Time for some R&R. Tomorrow’s another day, as Murphy always says.

#208 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 3:23 pm

#190 Dem4Hillary

What is your problem?

I agree with Asian that this is no way no how a strictly Republican caused effect of shoddy government. That does not make me a NEO-CON.

It WAS a huge mistake during Clinton’s term – but not solely driven by him or the Dems. That’s the effect of the three branches of government – the PREZ takes all the blame and Congress gets off scott free which is BULLSHIT.

NEITHER PARTY IS WITHOUT BLAME – NOR IS ANY LEADER OF THE PARTIES.

Please – do take your idolization elsewhere along with your hatred. I, for one, don’t like it and it drags down the blog.

MarylandPUMA speaking as a PUMA Member

PS – Historians consider William Henry Harrison the worst president in US History.

#209 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:23 pm

re#195 sandy..
i agree! mccain needs to shore up his rear flank that being the economy or obama will attack that weak point

#210 marie on 09.21.08 at 3:23 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/eat-crow-hell-yes-to-win_b_126712.html

#211 normapapuma on 09.21.08 at 3:24 pm

Hey, PUMAs
Handed out PUMA money to kids today, gave business card to PA college student and Maryland and PA moms.
Let’s go McCain?Palin!

#212 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:24 pm

#208 Anna7000

Please email me faapuma geemail

Explain in your email what is your problem with your browser, indicate also what OS are you using, I might be able to help you with your problem. :)

#213 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:24 pm

#195 heysandy

Really who ever wins will be stuck with a pile of poop. That poop will touch every one in the winning party.

I expect no one has an answer.

If it is the Dems, people will be asking were is all the change within a few months.

I expect there will be calls to remove Obama in the first year if he wins. After all he is supposed to be the savior. I actually fear for the poor fool.

#214 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:25 pm

normapapuma

You rock!!!!! Well Done!!!! Fantastic job!!!!

#215 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:25 pm

#208 Anna7000. The browser is the program that shows you all the webpages. There are two popular ones: Internet Explorer and Firefox. You are most likely using one or the other. A plugin is a program that you download. It is usually an executable file that, when you doubleclick on it, will install itself on the browser. But, yeah, if your husband is around, he might be your best bet :)

#216 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:26 pm

Dances – Thanks for the updates! BTW, I sent a couple of e-mails to the Action Center. No need to reply unless you didn’t receive them. Both had an attachment.

Bobram and NV PUMA – Thank you so much!

Trish – As always, thank you so much. Few probably realize how much you do behind the scenes. Your contribution to our little tribe has been constant and amazing.

Dances, thanks, goes without saying for your ongoing work on the AC!

#217 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:26 pm

Dances – Thanks for the updates! BTW, I sent a couple of e-mails to the Action Center. No need to reply unless you didn’t receive them. Both had an attachment.

Bobram and NV PUMA – Thank you so much!

Trish – As always, thank you so much. Few probably realize how much you do behind the scenes. Your contribution to our little tribe has been constant and amazing.

Dances, thanks, goes without saying for your ongoing work on the AC!

#218 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 3:26 pm

#202 LandiPUMA

Please delete #190. It makes us look very bad, especially being in ALL CAPS, which implies shouting and draws attention.
———————————————-
I suggest that you email Murphy, Mama and Maryland to be sure that they get the message–they may not see your post. They will probably get more than 1 request. JMO

murphy@pumapac.org
mamapuma@pumapac.org
marylandpuma@gmail.com

#219 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:27 pm

sorry
sorry

Asian – Thanks for the offer. I got my husband right here now and we’ll work it out. (One of those “we” means “he”)

#220 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:28 pm

anna7000..
i had trouble with firefox browser not rendering the pUMA PAC web pages properly..
i downloaded OPERA browser and it works fine with that

#221 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:28 pm

#208 Anna7000, have you clicked on the troublehsooting links on the live feed page? If it’s set up well, all you’ll have to do click on links. The troublehsooting section itself will diagnose the problem and provide solutions, which might just be clicking on a link and downloading a program. Once the program is downloaded, doubleclicking on it will run and install it.

#222 normapapuma on 09.21.08 at 3:29 pm

Dem4Hillary-Please, did anyone criticize Pres. Clinton? I missed that, but we ARE “country before Party”.

#223 Maryland PUMA on 09.21.08 at 3:30 pm

#202 LandiPUMA

I would delete the comment but think it should be left up as an example that we are NOT voters who “idolize” the Dems and are willing to find fault with our own as well as other parties and their members.

Perhaps Murphy will delete it – I leave this one to her discretion.

#224 webfoot on 09.21.08 at 3:30 pm

#208Anna7000 I am listening/watching the live feed from a slightly different link than what Godzilla provided. Maybe this one will work for you:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7479175&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

#225 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:31 pm

I use Firefox. I have 8 tabs open right now.

#226 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:31 pm

The live feed page:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7479175&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

#227 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 3:33 pm

#228 shampoovta

I use Firefox. I have 8 tabs open right now
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I’ve only used Explorer. What are the advantages of using Firefox? Is it easy to use?

#228 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 3:33 pm

#228 shampoovta

I use Firefox. I have 8 tabs open right now
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I’ve only used Explorer. What are the advantages of using Firefox? Is it easy to use?

#229 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:33 pm

Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!

#230 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 3:33 pm

just think if this crook wins, what happen to our country, we would not know what is going, as it is now he has the media sequestrated, the news are not even reporting on the russian nuclear naval ships in the caribean, because it would probably hinder mr whine polls. State offices would be fulfilled not on profesional or occupational basis training¡¡¡¡¡¡. The ocamps would turn into militias, that would be like kgb etc, these militias would turn into finks at every corner informing you whereabouts, like a secret police…¡¡¡ GHU

#231 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 3:34 pm

#216 shampoovta

I agree 100%. I’d just like to say McCain on sturdier ground. Shore up his rear flank, as osaka puma said.

I suspect he’ll be pummelled on the economy and this crisis next Friday night, even though the debate is supposed to be about foreign policy.

Nobama will try to keep it on the economy, and the moderators will probably let him get away with it.

I’m really out of here this time.

#232 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 3:34 pm

Whoops! :oops: Hey Anna! I think it may be contagious! :lol:

#233 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:35 pm

I believe both major parties have a wide variation in perspectives re: how far center or how far from the center party members are in terms of their political views and values. I’m pretty far left leaning. Can’t speak for Dem4hillary and agree that screaming and using accusatory expletives is totally uncool, however, in speaking for myself, I too find that some of the discourse feels like I could just as well be on a Republican or conservative blog if I didn’t know where I was. I tend to avoid getting involved in such discussions cause, for me, it leads nowhere (or leads to no good!). But, I felt I had to speak up here because I empathize with what I THINK Dem4hillary is picking up on and want to acknowledge she is not alone.

#234 LandiPUMA on 09.21.08 at 3:35 pm

……………………………………………………..
******- HELP! – HELP! – HELP! *****
SARAH IS BEING VICIOUSLY SMEARED wide and far (through Viral Emails, etc) !!!

One of the things we’re up against, that may be affecting the polls in favor of BO, is the intense smear campaign that the Dems (esp the Liberals) are waging against Sarah Palin. I have received a few (I’ve lost count!) Viral Emails (mass-forwarded emails) and forwarded articles all with similar “lists” of negative false charges against Sarah. They’ve mainly come from my more Liberal contacts, but these anti-Palin Viral Emails have been circulating and spreading widely.

It’s like a hysteria going on! Even friends who I thought were very intelligent and objective seekers of the truth are sending me these emails smearing Palin that they’ve received and expressing how negative they feel about Sarah because of these charges (which they seem to take as fact).

There is a Website which brings out the truth about a lot of these charges and which debunks the falsehoods (they have a lot of things listed so it can be hard to find the more relevant ones). This is the website:

http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

I tried to take out the points that speak to the falsehoods being circulated the most, added some notes of my own, and sent it to some of my friends which have sent me the Sarah-smearing emails. But my email correcting the falsehoods is kind of wordy… We need to create a more succinct email, setting straight her record and the false rumors and then sending off the email virally! (I will work on one myself!).

** These BO fanatics seem to very good at creating and spreading Viral Emails… Why don’t we do the same thing… we need to circulate anti-BO Viral Emails!, but not w/falsehoods like theirs, but with facts!

#235 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:35 pm

jody
jody

it’s a social worker thing. don’t worry!

#236 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:36 pm

hey sandy.. i enjoy reading your posts..you are very perceptive..i appreciate your observations

#237 indy on 09.21.08 at 3:36 pm

Hi,

I was just surfing newspapers on the web and came across an article of voter registration in North Carolina.

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=304967

The Democrats note their new voter registration in Cumberland County has increased, since January, 10% for Democrats, 3% for Republicans and ll% for Independents.

A Republican spokesman said if the demographics change in NC in this election, it because of the Independent voter increase.

I don’t think they realize that the reason for the increase in Independents (they call them Unaffiliated) is because of the disaffected Hillary supporters.

I know a group who went in July and changed to Independent from Democrat. These people are professional people who were life-long Democrats. One told me he felt liberated afterward. They had worked hard on Hillary’s campaign and are working hard now to defeat Obama.

If you combine from that county the 3% increase of Republicans plus the 11% increase in Unaffiliated, that’s a 14% increase in voters that are possibly not voting for Obama. Add to that, those Democrats that didn’t bother to change affiliation but who are not going to vote for Obama, we may be making inroads.

If this is going on nationwide, Obama will be defeated.

I suddenly feel a little better.

#238 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:36 pm

shampoovta – you cannot post that without further explanation, especially if you’re watching the feed, which i couldn’t watch cause my computer wouldn’t bring it up. (bad computer day for me)

#239 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 3:38 pm

I thought I read somewhere where Obama wanted the questions ahead of time, and be able to use his teleprompter.

If so, doesn’t sound like he will have the teleprompter. I wonder if he will get the questions ahead of time?

#240 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 3:38 pm

Talking about the debates.

#241 scarlet on 09.21.08 at 3:39 pm

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#242 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:39 pm

Sometimes the cause of your PC getting bogged down to oblivion:

1. You forgot to defrag your PC (must be done once a week)

2. You don’t have utilities to clean your registry

3. Your HD was never formatted since you bought it (good idea to format your HD once a year to keep it clean)

4. You’ve installed too many programs/softwares that causes conflict with other programs you have in your PC.

5. You can’t have two anti-virus in your PC. You only need one.

6. You can’t have two firewall in your PC, you only need one.

7. Make it a habit to clean your cache DAILY, like before going to bed.

8. Please do NOT make a folder on your desktop. I’ve find out many people do that a lot. :lol:

#243 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:39 pm

Why Two Browsers are Better than One (Firefox)

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1551747,00.html

#244 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:39 pm

middle age..
i was thinking about that too…
obama is such a crook..

#245 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:42 pm

OMG, 245 Asian. I didn’t know you spoke Greek as well!

(Will copy your tips for future reference, but likely need to go buy a dictionary for defintions!)

#246 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:43 pm

#241 Anna7000

They were chanting for Palin. She and her family are just getting in to town but the crowed is impatient. Now there is some Repub whipping up the crowed on the economic issues.

#247 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 3:45 pm

187 Asian4Hillary :O I didn’t know you are a Republican….I thought you are an American. like everyone else.
Everything that’s wrong with this country can be laid directly at the doorsteps of the Republicans AND the democrats. What we need is a united American Party.
I guess it eluded Dem4Hillary that we’ve had a democratic congress the last 8 years who has taken more vacation days than work days.

#248 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:46 pm

come on GW and bernanke!!
if you guys are going to manipulate the markets for Gods sake manipulate them now so obama cant sling mud at mccain..make the DOW go up to 15000!!
:lol:

#249 Seattlegirl on 09.21.08 at 3:46 pm

I am spending the day cooking today and I just keep coming back to this thought which just irritates me. I can’t believe that NOW endorsed BO knowing he pays women in his office less than men. At the very, very least they should have said “you need to raise the pay of the women in your office to match that of the men, you need to restore their back pay and benefits and when this is done you may approach us and seek our endorsement”. But no, they just sign on to BO like a bunch of half witted little sheep.

#250 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 3:46 pm

Boy, that McCallum is a firebrand.

#251 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:47 pm

Now he is asking if we are ready for the first woman VP. Repubs cheer yes!

More chanting.

#252 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 3:47 pm

#239 osaka puma

Why, thank you. Right back atcha!

#253 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 3:48 pm

#250 Alice1943

I didn’t know I’m a Republican now! I be darn! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!

#254 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:48 pm

seattle.. NOW has become more liberal ideologues and less feminists

#255 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:49 pm

Some one in the crowed yelled, they running scared in response to think about what Palin and her family has ben through this week.

#256 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 3:49 pm

“Obama appears all too human” (and none too soon as far as I am concerned, LOL)…

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/21/obama-proves-all-too-human/

#257 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:50 pm

The Repubs seam to think the attacks on Palin shows the Dems are scared.

#258 EWard on 09.21.08 at 3:52 pm

#174 Indy

I believe Jim Lehrer is the first debate moderator. I’ve seen him on PBS, and he’s professional and fair.

#259 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 3:52 pm

After re-reading Dem4Hillary’s post I have to say….it sounded a whole lot like what I’d expect from an Obot.

#260 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:53 pm

this sarah palin..shes tough and smart.. those obama campaign pigs were so sure she was a “dumb hick bimbo” as they themselves refer to her.. shes proving them wrong and is kicking their asses..

#261 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:53 pm

Seattlegirl – Great post. It would be a great letter to NOW. Anyone interested?

#262 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 3:54 pm

Texas Tigress – If you’re around, you have mail (not directly related to our project. something else.)

#263 SunnySantaFe on 09.21.08 at 3:55 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll get working!

#264 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:55 pm

awww ..dem4 is having a bad day..give her some space..

#265 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 3:57 pm

I really like the music they are playing now! Rock concert movements or something it is funny.

#266 indy on 09.21.08 at 3:58 pm

Alice 1943,

The Democrats have been in control since 2006. Two years not 8 years. The republicans were in control from 1996 to 2006.

#267 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 3:58 pm

shampoo..obama sings and dances on his campaign stops..why couldnt sarah do the same..shes much better to look at then obama thats for sure :)

#268 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 3:59 pm

I lost the sound on the Palin event!

#269 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:00 pm

#270 osaka puma

I don’t want to see her dance. I want her to mosh!

#270 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:00 pm

Whew… there it is… the sound was off for almost 5 minutes there!

#271 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 4:00 pm

#262 Alice1943

After re-reading Dem4Hillary’s post I have to say….it sounded a whole lot like what I’d expect from an Obot.
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That wouldn’t surprise me at all. It wasn’t a single post though–there was a pattern of similar posts. Other times she said things that got trouble started on the blog–a typical Obot tactic. But she’s gone now.

#272 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 4:01 pm

shampoo. .. mosh as in “mosh potatoes”?
:lol:

#273 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:01 pm

269 indy Ok, I was wrong. They’ve only been on vacation for 2 years.

#274 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:02 pm

My sound cuts out then comes back. Maybe the page is refreshing itself or something.

#275 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:02 pm

oh yes, im an OBOT, I HATE BILL CLINTON… BLAME BILL CLINTON FOR EVERY SINGLE THING THAT HAS EVER GONE WRONG AND THEN ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS HAVE CONTROLLED CONGRESS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#276 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 4:02 pm

LETTER TO NOW INSPIRED BY SEATTLE GIRL’S POST. FREE TO GOOD HOME.
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I have been a life long Democrat and great supporter of NOW. I am writing to you at this time to express my profound dismay regarding your enthusiastic endorsement of Barack Obama for President. You claim, as does he, that he will defend women’s rights, including equal pay for equal work. If so, I find it astonishing that he pays his female staffers 83 cents on the dollar as compared to his male staffers. In addition, only 1 of his top 5 advisors is female and only 7 of his top 20 are women. So, while his rhetoric might sound great, his own behavior towards women suggests he no great ally of ours.

If NOW has endorsed him, why not at least, use some leverage with his campaign and insist on equal pay for equal work starting with his own staff? Why not create some minimum standards and expectations before you sign on the dotted line?

I’m deeply disappointed to see this once great organization follow along like sheep.

You’ve lost my support and I surely will not be voting for Barack Obama on election day.

Sincerely,

#277 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:02 pm

#278 shampoovta

can you give me the site please

#278 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:03 pm

275 Dem4Hillary LMAO–You didn’t go very far.

#279 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 4:03 pm

What time is Sarah suppose to speak?

#280 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:04 pm

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm………….. time to stop and take a deep breath guys. Let’s not have snarling and bitting among the pumas……. ok?

#281 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:04 pm

275 Dem4Hillary Oh, yeah, please turn your CAPS off. It’s considered shouting. ….. besides, you might spit on your screen

Your definition of neo-cons sounds alot like our Obots.

#282 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:05 pm

#284 Middle age female, Sarah Palin is the next speaker…could be any minute.

#283 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:05 pm

sorry… meant biting, not bitting….. fingers got carried away with the “t” key….

#284 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 4:05 pm

I posted this before a few days back but I don’t think anyone pays attention to the links I post.

But for those interested Bill Clinton will be making an appearance on The View according to this link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Politics/story?id=5830280&page=1

#285 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 4:05 pm

karenwi..
you’re a nice PUMA :)

#286 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:06 pm

Mosh as in heavy metal mosh pit. I did a lot of this in the 80′s and 90′s on in to 2006!

I am not my mother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LvVNDrhXmo

#287 gostrumcat on 09.21.08 at 4:07 pm

#275 dem4hillary

We are here to share information and our own opinions, which we graciously accept, think on, or agree to disagree. You are arguing with people who have many more years, elections,experiences, etc. behind them that do you. Show some respect. You have two ears and one mouth and they should be used in that proportion. asian and alice are good PUMAs and I take exception to your attacks on them.

#288 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:07 pm

That is some big crowd.

#289 pooh496 on 09.21.08 at 4:08 pm

Does anyone know if bitterpoliticz is still a running website? I used to be able to get on from my favorites but now it keeps asking me for a wordpress password. I signed up for another one but it still won’t let me in. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks

#290 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 4:09 pm

re#292..shampoo.

ohh..that moshing nothing compared to our annual family thanksgiving dinner.. :wink:

#291 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 4:09 pm

Re: NOW letter

Seattlegirl and others, I think that’s a good idea. I wrote NOW way back when they endorsed BO in the summer. They should know that their stance is highly questionable. I’ll get on that later today. Need to get some work done.

Best,
Lara08

#292 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 4:09 pm

Dem4hillary – Please stop shouting. I’m sure we all see all sorts of posts and points of view we disagree with. Seems like we have 3 choices:

1. Respond in a respectful way.
2. Ignore.
3. Leave the blog altogether if the tenor doesn’t like a place you’re comfortable.
4. If you think something is of profound concern, e-mail Murphy with your concerns.

What’s up?

#293 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:10 pm

#293 Dem4Hillary, this puts it in perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKgkBV-XBVs

#294 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 4:10 pm

dem4hillary… peace :)

#295 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:10 pm

Aw gee oasksa puma… thanks. That’s a great compliment for a repub to hear. I may be a repub, but I’m right with you guys on a lot of things. When it gets down to how important it is to keep Obama out of the white house, though (and I wouldn’t be saying this if Hillary hadn’t been trashed by the party and had gotten the nod), I think it’s so important for everyone to put away all of their differences and stand together shoulder to shoulder to defeat the commen enemy…. COUNTRY FIRST!

#296 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:10 pm

the crowed is very big and it looks hot there. You got to give the Repubs some props for that.

#297 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 4:11 pm

oops. said 3 choices and posted 4. at least the entire post didn’t duplicate. there’s something to hold onto!

#298 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:12 pm

shampoovta I was thinking the same thing….. everyone standing there in the hot sun like that so long. At least the McCain-Palin event I went to here in WI this week we were inside in the air conditioning!

#299 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 4:12 pm

Why can’t candidates ever show up on time?

#300 Missy on 09.21.08 at 4:13 pm

#237 LandiPuma
******- HELP! – HELP! – HELP! *****
SARAH IS BEING VICIOUSLY SMEARED wide and far (through Viral Emails, etc) !!!

237 LandiPuma

I too have received these emails. I usually hit “respond to all” so that everyone on the huge mailing address gets my message — which goes something like this: “when you are sending emails intended to sully the name of a candidate, you might want to check snopes.com, or factorg.com (not that I think they aren’t in the tank), PalinRumors, to determine the veracity of the *facts* as set forward in your email. I include the link which includes the “truth.”

I really think our efforts should be focused on “truth” viral emails as well. Time is of the essence. I have no clue what our numbers are, but we all know a lot of people, who know a lot of people, etc.

#301 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 4:14 pm

New bi-lingual flyer by Lara08 at the action center (Flyer, Money, Docs section)

bye. later.

#302 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:14 pm

#309 Middle age female, I can remember reading an article that stated she was scheduled at 4 PM. There was one article that said 3 PM, which might have been in error.

#303 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 4:14 pm

karenwi.. but just think about all those cool suntans they get down there.. :wink:

#304 sue66 on 09.21.08 at 4:15 pm

The easiest way to get firefox is thru yahoo.com. So far it is the only browser I can use to pick up every site I want. I had trouble with this one using Excplorer. Just joined today and look forward to a long and happy relationship.

#305 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 4:15 pm

Also… I totally distrust the gallup polls… but it’s still interesting that Obama is on his way down again in the polls

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110554/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Leading-McCain-Points.aspx

#306 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:16 pm

#309 Middle age female

Why cant Obama give a speech be for I have to go to work?

It is the grate unknown.

#307 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 4:16 pm

#285 Dem 4 hillary
take it easy¡¡¡¡
if you do not want this bimbom to win, because from what we know and what we might know in the near future, we think might put the country in peril, thus we do not have many cards to play¡¡¡¡

#308 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:17 pm

osaka…. cool suntans today… and skin cancer tomorrow, LOL…….

#309 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 4:17 pm

mzebest.. i guess the message is loud and clear..
“it’s the economy stupid!”..

#310 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:18 pm

sheesh that graph looks like a rock skipping across the water be for it goes in.

#311 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 4:19 pm

#318 osaka puma

“i guess the message is loud and clear.. “it’s the economy stupid!”

Not to mention that even “In the Tank for Obama” newspapers are noticing and advertising all his lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160179

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/52786.html

#312 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:19 pm

293 Dem4Hillary Then turn em off. You haven’t been around any longer than anyone else. Just take a chill pill. It’s all gonna be ok.

#313 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:20 pm

#314 mzebest, that might be because of the economy. I’ve read some articles that stated it helped McCain because of his lower taxes platform. I just wish I new the percentages of dems, repubs, and indies were polled in the sample.

#314 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 4:21 pm

Asian4Hillary, Dances:
Guess what? A polling opinion company just called me about the upcoming election. Wanted to know “do you sometimes vote Democrat, always vote Democrat, never vote Democrat,” etc. I said always. They asked about all of the upcoming races (down ticket, I’m in Oregon) but at the end they asked about the top of the ticket! Even though I still haven’t decided on top of the ticket (either a no vote or a McCain vote), I answered truthfully. Because I said:

“WELL, if someone put a gun to my head and said you HAVE to vote, I’d vote for McCain!” So they put down McCain. The woman was black but she was really friendly. I don’t think she likes Obama either!

Well, that was a fun phonecall!

#315 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 4:21 pm

And has anyone seen this?

Obama is quietly raising the age for Social Security

http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/obama-quietly-changing-position-on-raising-age-for-social-security/

Related link from above link that shows a side-by side comparison of Obama’s website before and after changes:

http://versionista.com/diff/O0rWJ6UUS6nPJdXjl@h@Rw/

#316 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:22 pm

#321 mzebest

Nicely don.

#317 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:23 pm

#324 hillstheone

I’m laughing here! Girl! You rock!!!!!! hahahahaha!

#318 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:23 pm

OMG!!! To be 30 again!!! Those WERE the days.

#319 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 4:23 pm

Lara08
If you’re still here…

Your flyer? Beautiful job!

I had to chagne the size of the fonts in your flyer because the overall length was a page and a quarter. I changed them proportionally though.

#320 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:24 pm

Must be close, they’re playing “Right now”.

#321 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:25 pm

We are a go on Palin live.

#322 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:25 pm

Alice1943…. ah to have the body of a 20-30 year old and the experience/knowledge of a 50-60 year old! I’m right there with you!

#323 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 4:25 pm

#323 Godzilla

Well — I posted these links yesterday… but will post them again for those that haven’t seen them yet. Both talk about how the polls can’t be trusted… especially the Gallup polls:

Cellphone polling myth
http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/the-cellphone-polling-myth/

Doubts cast on Gallup poll
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/world/-/1068/469652/-/rxnf86/-/index.html

#324 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 4:25 pm

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008 (I deleted all but Obama and McCain)

Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349

McCain, John S AZ R $21,550

#325 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:26 pm

yes alice1943 let me tell you something. Being 30 with a bachelor’s degree now means that you get to take an internship for god knows how long for NOTHIGN. it means that you get to carry huge debt from your college education while get paid substantially less in real dollar value than your generation did, alice1943. Thanks….

#326 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:26 pm

You know I hope they come to California. I would love to see her.

#327 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 4:26 pm

CNN Prowl

slyt2, michelle, snowtiger, dances, gypsy, whoever else: Here’s the letter we’re going to send. Please post feedback soon so we can get started later today and Monday morning, Thanks a lot.

~ ~ ~

To: Roland Martin, Campbell Brown, CNN
cc: Advertising Dept., CNN

I am a member of PUMApac and I am writing to tell you why, after years of being a CNN viewer, I have lost my confidence in your network’s ability to report the news objectively. During the Democratic Primary I watched with dismay as your network continued to promote the candidacy of Barack Obama – yet night after night, reported about the remarkable candidacy of our country’s first woman candidate as if it were a mere sidenote to the election.

Members of PUMApac are fully-informed voters, well aware of the fact that Senator Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in the primary (this is a fact you can verify yourself at thegreenpapers.com). Yet, in spite of the fact Clinton won the popular vote, the leaders of the DNC choose to pre-select Barack Obama to become the Party nominee. They did so even knowing full-well that caucus fraud was used by the Obama campaign, an unethical strategy deliberately planned and executed in order to steal the nomination away from the Party’s strongest, most qualified candidate.

Ms. Brown and Mr. Martin, there is a word for the actions of Obama and the DNC leadership and it’s called “corruption.”

Throughout the primaries Campbell Brown’s obvious bias for Barack Obama was both insulting to your viewers, and unprofessional. I also found Roland Martin’s promotion for Barack Obama during the primaries highly objectionable. I was especially offended with his ready willingness to overlook Obama when he played the race card against one of our country’s greatest civil rights champions and Presidents – Bill Clinton. I simply fail to understand how Martin can minimize the fact that Barack Obama sat in church for years listening to sermons based in black theology, yet not admit that this candidate is both racist and un-electable in this country in the year 2008.

Sadly, not only did you look the other way, Mr. Roland, you vilified the Clintons to millions of viewers with your remarks against them. Again, just one of hundreds of examples of CNN’s bias during the primaries.

Now that the primaries are over, your network – CNN – continues its pro-Obama and anti-McCain bias on a daily basis. Your network also routinely trivializes the views of women voters – especially women voters who have examined closely the remaining 2 presidential candidates and found that in terms of experience and working across party lines, John McCain is more of a centrist and has more positives in his column than Barack Obama.

Ms. Brown, isn’t it true in your recent interview with Lynn De Rothschild you tried to reduce her views about John McCain as being the superior candidates as “bitter?” That was wrong, and it again revealed the inability of CNN News to report objectively, or even require their reporters to do their pre-interview homework.

Like millions of voters, Rothschild has not been enamored by Obama’s speeches in front of fabricated Greek columns or his display of a mock presidential seal with his name on it. Had you, Ms. Brown, bothered to read Ms. Rothschild’s article in the Wall Street Journal you would’ve known she takes issue with Barack Obama’s elitist attitudes and his tendency towards self-absorption. These qualities are not desirable in a strong leader, and one need only look to George Bush’s presidency for confirmation.

As Ms. Rothschild so eloquently stated in her article: “In spite of Mr. Obama’s assertions that his campaign is about ‘you,’ much of his campaign is, in fact, all about him.”

Lastly, we would like to remind you that there is a world of difference between being a member of the elite – which Ms. Rothschild certainly is – and being a so-called “elitist,” i.e., someone who looks down their nose at others. We think Ms. Rothschild was correct in her parting words to you, Ms. Campbell: You can call Ms. Rothschild and millions of the rest of CNN’s viewers “bitter,” but as Rothschild said, “it doesn’t really advance the dialogue, Campbell.”

I’ll therefore be boycotting CNN News and am also attaching a list of some of the CNN advertisers that, as a consumer, I will go out of my way to avoid.

#328 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:27 pm

When I was at the McCain-Palin event in WI we went through really high security. I wonder how they did that with this outdoors??

#329 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:28 pm

#339 hillstheone

I sent him email during primary, he was the biggest critic of Hillary in my opinion. He didn’t bother to answer my email. He also call democrats not supporting NObama stupid. But what can we expect, he’s from Chicago.

#330 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:29 pm

They’re chanting “Sarah Sarah” and I detect a distinct female timbre to the collective voice :)

#331 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:29 pm

330 Dem4Hillary Damn, girl, would you stop hollering? Your insecurities are showing.

#332 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:30 pm

I see a lot of homemade signs there….. in the WI rally there a lot of neat homemade signs, but they had to leave them at the door… they weren’t allowed to bring them in…….

#333 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:31 pm

340 Dem4Hillary Umm, have you checked our SOUTHERN borders lately?

#334 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 4:31 pm

339 hillstheone

Please count me in on your CNN prowl.

#335 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 4:31 pm

hillstheone – what a great letter. should we assume murphy will be sending it out as an official prowl, or is it posted here, now, for us to act on as we see fit?

ps i would change one thing in the letter: i wouldn’t make an accusation about black liberation theology. it’s a point of view. i would, instead, simply spell out your concerns, be they about preaching hatred, elevating Farrakhan to great heights, etc.

but, back to praise: truly fantastic writing! was it a collaborative effort, or your work entirely? do share!

#336 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:32 pm

That li’l Piper gal…. she’s gonna take after her mommy……

#337 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:33 pm

What the HELL does being outside of the country have to do with what’s going on right now inside the country?
Unless you are Obama and would rather not say.

#338 catsarepumas on 09.21.08 at 4:33 pm

BERG LAWSUIT

For those of you following Philip Berg’s lawsuit requesting BO to prove his citizenship and for Dean to prove that the DNC properly vetted BO, here is an email response to a question I asked on the 18th.

“In any lawsuit the Defendants are given time to Answer, they are entitled to be heard. Mr. Obama and the DNC’s Answers to the lawsuit are due on or before September 24, 2008. If they fail, then I will seek a Default against them and request the Injunction and Declaratory Relief I have asked for in the lawsuit.

No, the Court is not stalling the suit. All cases must follow the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. There are avenues if the Defendants fail to respond, answer or defend the action.

Nothing is signed by the Court until the Defendants and/or Plaintiffs have a chance to respond, which there is only so much time allowed for the responses. The lawsuit is 20 days, the Motions are typically 14 days. The Court will then typicall set the matter for a hearing or Conference, if a party has requested such. After said answers, if any, and a conference and/or hearing, the Judge then makes their rulings.

Thank you for your email. Please keep up the great job and continue spreading the word. Together we can make a difference!”

#339 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:34 pm

My father have ONE advise to all of us, his children; “ don’t bring a child into this world you cannot afford and educate.” My nephew graduated college at University of Washington, my sister pay for his tuition 100% because we listen to our father. My nephew now is working for Microsoft.

#340 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:35 pm

Everyone…. TRUCE, ok? We have a common enemy and can’t afford to be scratching and biting each other! TRUCE!!!! We need to direct this energy and anger against our common enemy and not at each other, ok?

#341 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:35 pm

351 Dem4Hillary Ok, girl, you have to EARN my respect. So far you’ve been losing points ever since you opened your mouth the first time. I have a granddaughter your age.

#342 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 4:36 pm

330 Dem4Hillary

I’m a lifelong Democrat, except when I registered and voted Green one year. I’m a PUMA. Sarah Palin is not my savior, nor can I think of any politician who is or might be, and especially not a Repuiblican politician, of any gender.

The only reason I would vote McCain is to register a protest vote against Obamadncdeanpelosibrazile and other corrupt pieces of work in teh Democratic Party.
Sexism and mischaracterization of Palin are the only reasons I would defend Palin, or anyone else for that matter.

It sickens me to read the exuberant cheerleading for Republicans on this blog. As if, overnight, so-called Democrats suddenly devolved into gung-ho Republicans.

Puma PAC, as I understand it, is The Voice of the Voters of the Democratic Party. I haven’t read anywhere on this blog where its founder, or her staff, have said it is a forum for campaigning for, and singing the praises of the likes of Republicans, or any other party.

The only thing I can suggest is:
take the best and ignore the rest.

#343 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:37 pm

355 Dem4Hillary Damn!!! Now you’re sounding like a neo-con.

#344 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 4:37 pm

Dem4Hillary,
I hope you don’t leave the PUMA site because I also am a HUGE admirer of Bill Clinton. Although he wasn’t perfect he was DEFINITELY the best president in my adult lifetime!!!

And by the way, don’t you wonder what ever happened to Ken Star? That guy was such an #**-hole, & he wasted millions of taxpayer dollars for no reason.

#345 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 4:37 pm

OMG The discourse is becoming ridiculous! I’m taking a break cause it seems others can’t and it’s become intolerable. Hillstheone, will look forward to your respond when I check back in!

#346 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:39 pm

359 DancesWithPumas Or could it be that, nearly overnight, Obama’s values and propositions are so socialistic they make ours SOUND like Republicans?
Isn’t there such a thing as a right-leaning, or conservative democrat?

#347 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:40 pm

She is hiting Biden on the Patriotic taxes BS.

Go girl!

#348 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:40 pm

No teleprompter. Talking from notes, and looks down at them infrequently.

#349 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:40 pm

Hitting,.. sorry

#350 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 4:40 pm

Dem4Hillary

I think you’ve crossed the line here.

#351 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:41 pm

364 Dem4Hillary If you don’t turn off your caps, I am going to assume your Mother doesn’t know you got on her computer.

#352 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 4:41 pm

MURPHY
MAMA
MARYLAND

You have mail

#353 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 4:42 pm

KarenWI
“That li’l Piper gal…. she’s gonna take after her mommy……”

LMAO, very cute! I bet you’re right. ;) I sent good energy (“Reiki”) to Sarah Palin today because my spirit guides asked me to. I guess she is under a lot of stress.

(Wow I can’t imagine how it’d feel if someone told ME my best qualification was never having an abortion!)

It’s amazing all the lessons about racism / sexism / ageism the whole US population is getting this election.

#354 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:42 pm

#361 hillstheone

I hate Kenneth Star! I will never forget what he had done to Bill Clinton. I joined moveon in the 90′s, it was real bad. I mean so what if he had an affair, it didn’t affect his job as President. JFK had an affair with Marilyn Monroe, FDR had a mistress, that didn’t make FDR a bad President.

Bill and Hillary Clinton investigation cost us taxpayers $42 million, what did they get from that investigation? NADA! KAPUT! ZILCH! Hyde who lead the hearing had his mistress sitting there…….grrrrrr!

I have the book for the whole hearing up to now, every time I read it I get real ticked off!

#355 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 4:43 pm

I feel like getting in the ring and separating Alice and Dem4 before they pull each other’s hair out…… c’mon guys… chill out! You’ve taken your eyes off the goal and the common enemy and let yourselves get sidetracked to personal attacks…….

#356 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 4:44 pm

Hi Anna,
I am logging off too, BBL & I’ll go check my email.

Also everybody on Tues nite Bill Clinton will be on FOX, and on Wed nite he wil be on CNN I think.

#357 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 4:44 pm

Yo!
Enough is enough. Both sides.
Take this arguement and snark fest someplace else.
It doesn’t belong here.
This is a Political Action site… not a toxic waste dump site.

340 Dem4Hillary
366 Dem4Hillary
You”re out of bounds… language and verging on racism, if you haven’t already crossed that boundry.

#358 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 4:44 pm

If the accusation of racism is going to come up in the media again this week… here’s a great link to provide to show how ridiculous they sound when they tell us to vote for Obama so we won’t be a racist.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/10/what-convinced-me-to-vote-for-obama/

#359 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 4:44 pm

374 Dem4Hillary You know what? I think you’re kinda cute. Wanna go out Friday night?

#360 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:45 pm

#374 Dem4Hillary
OK ,we are done now.

I understand being angry but you need to cool your jets.

#361 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 4:46 pm

LMAO Alice

#362 bobram on 09.21.08 at 4:46 pm

Dances you have mail – did everyone see the attached post from Rodham – I just got back from the airport and purposely went to Walmart looking for that article – and I too ran into a couple of people looking at it – one worked there and was saying to one of her friends that she was going to tell her Mama about this – her Mama is a big BO fan – but not after this -

Remember the situation with National Enquirer – THEY broke the John Edwards story – after the fact – other media sources admitted they had known about it for a long time – several of us one late night decided to send emails to them about the Berg Case and Logan Act – but to my knowledge nothing ever got picked up or even a response -

This particular magazine has also linked Oprah with BO and his campaign – does anyone have a contact link for them – I think we should bombard them – even if it is this particular magazine – remember how people perceive things makes a lot of difference – this is what happened to BO in Kentucky and W. Virginia that gave HRC a landslide victory – BO complained that Fox and others were sending out negative emails about him and he did not even bother campaigning there – all perception —- anyone else want an action item to this magazine – I found their parent company link but not to them: HELP
===================================
Posted from above by Rodham in Flag

AT WALMART – yes I am one of those ladies – was standing in the one lane open only — and three women in front of me were just going on and on about an article they were reading while in line on the National Examiner – so when they put it down and I picked it up headlines OBAMA A MUSLIM – subheadlines with documents to prove it -

I was one of the group that sent emails to National Inquirer regading the birth certificate to no avail – its amazing how many people do read and believe everything – maybe we should all do a PROWL to National Examiner – at least they have the guts to stand up and say something about BO — what say you guys.

#363 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 4:47 pm

CNN Prowl – Anna / everyone: I’ll make whatever edits folks think appropriate & then send it off to the Action Center. I guess it’s an “unofficial” prowl? I don’t really know, maybe Dances can clue us in as to protocol..?

BBL..!

#364 TerryDo on 09.21.08 at 4:49 pm

366 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:39 pm TO YOU ASIAN4HILLARY WHO PROBABLY GOT A FREE EDUCATION IN OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT’S HOW IT WORKS, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW WHO CAN PAY INSTATE TUITION HAVE 8,000 DOLLARS A YEAR, BITCH
**************************

It sounds like you need a time out Dem4Hillary, you are twisting everything that is being said to you.

And you need to apologize to ASIAN4HILLARY.

#365 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 4:51 pm

390 Dem4Hillary
Danceswithpumas, Asian4hillary was out of bounds with her snarky little comment about who should and shouldn’t have children based on their ability to pay for an education.
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I know. Like I said. Take the best and ignore the ignorant.

#366 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 4:51 pm

Asian4 HILLARY
it is not of my business
I do not think you have to reply to this kind pathetics commentaries
we all know why we are here for, and that is all……
and from what I have seen, your contribution is very valuable………..
and I think the rest of pumas think the same way

#367 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 4:52 pm

This has gotten out-of-hand. Can you imagine what any newcomers to our blog might be thinking right now?!

Cool it, kids. Nasty tone and words. That’s not what we’re about.

#368 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 4:54 pm

#393 storytellers

Yup! Rise above it….I’m laughing here though. Oh my goodness! :lol:

#369 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 4:55 pm

#393 storytellers
Asian4 HILLARY
it is not of my business
I do not think you have to reply to this kind pathetics commentaries
we all know why we are here for, and that is all……
and from what I have seen, your contribution is very valuable………..
and I think the rest of pumas think the same way
———————————–
I agree. I know that it’s hard (for me too) but try to ignore the blatant racism and agism. Consider the source.

#370 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:56 pm

Whoever controls this blog, why are allowing Dem4Hillary to derail this blog. Give her one warning and ban her if she violates it, is my advice. She’s cursing, calling people terrible names. Why are you giving her this platform???

#371 catsarepumas on 09.21.08 at 4:56 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Can you please stop the in-fighting and get back on track here. We are a diverse group whose main focus is to defeat BO (unless one of you is a stealth obot). There are more important issues to focus on than which one of us is more righteous. Everyone, please, take a deep breath, exhale slowly, and get a grip. We need to move on.

Someone say something about my post on Berg’s lawsuit at #354 or say something about the election.

#372 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:57 pm

What has Dem4Hillary ever done here but create problems? And now to hear her filth?

#373 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 4:57 pm

#396 Dem4Hillary

Oh dear God why?

#374 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 4:57 pm

#399 Godzilla

People need to email Murphy, Mama and Maryland with these issues. They don’t always see all of the posts.

Murphy (murphy@pumapac.org);
MamaPuma (mamapuma@pumapac.org);
Maryland (marylandpuma@gmail.com)

#375 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 4:59 pm

#403 jody in florida, I’ll email them now. I suggest anyone else who is disgusted by Dem4Hillary’s behavior do the same.

#376 HP Boston on 09.21.08 at 5:00 pm

#250 Alice 1943-
I guess it eluded Dem4Hillary that we’v had a democratic congress the last 8 years who has taken more vacation days than work days.–????

Really???

#377 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:02 pm

#407 Dem4Hillary

You keep saying that you’ve had it. THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?

#378 bobram on 09.21.08 at 5:03 pm

CATSAREPUMAS – I think you should send all your information to the National Examiner and let them expose everything to the public – they seem to be our only hope to do so now —- hows that for changing the subject — now I have to go back to my TV Station projects – sorry if you respond and I am not here to reply back ——

#379 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:04 pm

I have a suggestion.

My husband plays City of heroes and when the chat gets to hot some one uses the code word Bacon.

This will change the subject to how we love bacon.

I love bacon don’t you.

Then you all respond with your love of bacon and the shouting match can be way laid that way.

I love a good BLT with crispy Bacon!

#380 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 5:04 pm

It takes more than one a fight to make.
Dem4Hillary is just the “identified patient”.

#381 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 5:05 pm

hello everyone. Seems like a pretty stressful day here. I have not read all posts…. why the name calling? We must stay united and not let anyone sway us from our cause. As we get closer to November we will all be stressed however we have come a long way together and I hope we can continue.

#382 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:05 pm

Actually I love to cook bacon. The way it sizzles in the mourning and smells so good.

#383 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:08 pm

#415 shampoovta

I like it real crispy! Have you tried Turkey bacon? Its good!

#384 bobram on 09.21.08 at 5:08 pm

Shampoovta – you would be SURPRISED at how many tourists love bacon for breakfast over any other food item

#385 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 5:08 pm

Speaking of vacations, I thought it interesting that Obama took two vacation times while running for president in the past year…. while McCain took none. Did the youngster need more rest than the old timer?

#386 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 5:09 pm

Dances With Pumas
the adjective or the noun???

#387 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:09 pm

bobram

I love biscuits and gravy for breakfast with tomato. Oh my gosh! talking about heaven! :lol:

#388 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 5:09 pm

Bacon….. toasted cheese with bacon is great. One of my personal favorites is thick BLTB (bacon, lettuce, tomato, bacon)…. Yummmmmmmmm!

#389 Grizzly on 09.21.08 at 5:10 pm

Obama – The Epitome of Form over Substance.

A great article in Politico on Obama’s non ban on taking lobbying money. He took it before he was against it and he still takes it from lobbyists in one form or another. Some Highlights:

http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/washington/2008/09/18/Obamas-Fundraising-Tactics?tid=true

He’d had no problem accepting contributions from registered Washington lobbyists in his previous races for the Illinois statehouse, the U.S. House of Representatives, and the U.S. Senate. So now that he’s scoring political points for the ban, what impact has it actually had?

Virtually none.

The campaign has no problem accepting money from the spouses of Washington lobbyists. A database search conducted for this column by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks campaign-finance issues, found that more than 20 spouses of prominent Washington lobbyists have donated to the Obama campaign…

The campaign accepts money from lobbyists registered in state capitals. It accepts money from partners at law firms that engage in lobbying. It accepts money from the C.E.O.’s, chairs, and officers of corporations, but not their lobbyists. Obama has received more than $627,000 in contributions from employees of Goldman Sachs, including, for example, $2,300 (the maximum contribution allowed) from the likes of managing director George Butcher. But Michael Berman, a registered lobbyist (and a former adviser to Walter Mondale), cannot give money to Obama because his firm, the Duberstein Group, has lobbied on behalf of Goldman Sachs on energy and tax issues. Aren’t such policies a little inconsistent with the ban? “Maybe,” said the senior Obama official. “But it’s important symbolism.”…
Even though the Obama campaign wouldn’t accept a check from the lobbyist personally, he says, Obama aides asked him to help them raise money in other ways. “They wanted my list,” the lobbyist says, referring to the many donors the lobbyist has solicited for other campaigns. “Since then, they’ve asked if I could organize fundraisers but said that I couldn’t donate.”

Lobbyists have found other ways to work for the campaign, despite the official ban. In May, it emerged that Francisco Pavia, a registered Washington lobbyist whose clients include the Puerto Rican government, was helping to run Obama’s efforts in Puerto Rico. The campaign insisted that he was merely a volunteer and not on staff, and thus not in violation of the campaign’s own rules. While he was helping the campaign, Pavia took no leave from the firm of Winston & Strawn. The Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call reported at the end of July that 42 registered lobbyists had donated to Obama’s campaign despite the ban; only two had their checks returned.

Meanwhile, it’s worth remembering that lobbying is actually a constitutionally protected right. The Constitution is pretty plain in declaring that “Congress shall make no law…abridging…the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.” That’s lobbying. It’s one thing for a campaign to decide that it doesn’t want, say, pharmaceutical lobbyists writing its proposals on Medicare’s funding of prescription drugs, but it’s another to ban lobbyists from participation in a campaign entirely. After all, lobbyists represent not only corporations but also all sorts of other groups, from the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation to the American Legion.

#390 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:10 pm

Sounds like it KarenWI. :)

#391 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:10 pm

#416 Asian4Hillary

I have never tried turkey bacon is it good?

Wink, wink. ;)

#392 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:11 pm

Geotta is the absolute best breakfast food.
Ever hear of it?

#393 heysandy on 09.21.08 at 5:11 pm

Nobama is taking the rest of the week in FL to prepare for the debate Friday. Some more Rest with a little campaigning mixed in.

I love bacon.

#394 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:12 pm

#424 shampoovta

OHHHHHHH YESSSS!!!!! cook it real crispy! its great for BLT and not too salty. :)

#395 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:12 pm

I love biscuits and gravy too with crispy bacon crumbled on top. :)

#396 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:12 pm

Patty,

Nope, what is it? Can I get it from my grocery?

#397 KarenWI on 09.21.08 at 5:13 pm

Speaking of bacon…. know something really good to do with leftover chicken? Take a half hamburger bun, put a dollop of cream of chicken soup on it and cut up leftover chicken… put under the broiler until hot, then add a slice of tomato, some crisp bacon, and a slice of cheese, and put back under the broiler until the cheese melts… !

#398 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 5:13 pm

POST REMINDER

If you have a link to a great article to share, how about just post the link along with a few sentences that describe what it’s about so folks can easily decide whether they want to check it out, or not. That way, saves blog space.

#399 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:13 pm

#428 shampoovta

Now I’m drooling here! :lol:

#400 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 5:15 pm

HILLSTHEONE – Saw your post. Thanks. Sounds like you and a few others have invested a lot of time and energy getting this informal prowl together. Please make sure you post an update to confirm all info we need to do it is in the AC, unless Murphy’s going to make it officical and send as an e-mail to eveyone.

#401 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:15 pm

Geotta is a Cincinnati local specialty.
We even have a geottafest.

#402 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:15 pm

Bacon Candy

http://recipe.aol.com/recipe/bacon-candy/79278

#403 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:16 pm

Oh my! Thats it! I must go out and eat! You guys are making me hungry here. Restaurant is just down the street, I’ll order biscuits and gravy with tomatoes and bacon! :lol:

BBL.

#404 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 5:16 pm

Asian4Hillary: Have I told you lately how much I think you rock?

For the record, I am 31, and I have *never* felt that on this site everyone was saying that I am “too young” to vote. My high school students can see through the O-bots as well.

On this blog, it is always important to be respectful to those with differing opinions and always respect PUMAs for being PUMAs.

#405 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:16 pm

#434 Patty
Geotta is a Cincinnati local specialty.
We even have a geottafest.
——————–
But what IS it?

#406 Worker Bee on 09.21.08 at 5:16 pm

The Vikings just won a game! Now that’s amazing.

#407 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 5:17 pm

My son is home for the weekend. This morning we had the first civil conversation we have ever had about this election. He knew I had worked hard on Hillary’s campaign but he had no idea I wold not vote Obama. He was happy and shocked to hear that I was a PUMA. He said it is pretty strange that Obama’s past keeps coming up with dead ends. Shared some of his conspiracy theorys with me also. He asked me how I felt about the Roe vs Wade issue . We both agreed that a womans choice for or against abortion is a very personal private matter and should not be controlled by the government. We also agreed that Roe vs Wadr would not be overturned.

#408 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:17 pm

Oh were is Dem4Hillary? Don’t like bacon?

#409 HP Boston on 09.21.08 at 5:17 pm

#409 Dem4Hillary—Whoa woman–Lets have some Tomatoes from my garden with that bacon and lettuce, you want plain or toast with that??

I questioned the 8 years of Alice 1943 post.
We have had full republican rule in congress for too dam long. the past 2 years the Dem’s have been tied up by the filibuster rule, so chill darling You are being SILLY!

#410 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:18 pm

Goetta is a peasant food of German origin that is popular in the greater Cincinnati. It is primarily composed of ground meat and oats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goetta

#411 Worker Bee on 09.21.08 at 5:19 pm

Vikings–tossing around a pig skin…

#412 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:19 pm

#436 Asian4Hillary

I know a place here in Ventura that has the best biscuits and gravy.

#413 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 5:21 pm

I’M REPOSTING A LIST OF TALKING POINTS THAT I PRINT ON THE BACK OF PUMA FLYERS FOR ANYONE INTERESTED AND IN THE HOPES THAT WE CAN SHIFT THE ENERGY ON THE BLOG TO ONE OF PRODUCTIVE ACTION.
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A SERIES OF QUESTIONS TO USE WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE ELECTION WITH AN UNDECIDED VOTER OR AN OBAMA SUPPORTER

· Is it ok to nominate for President of the United States a man with virtually no experience on the national or international stage?

· Do you find that it is in line with your moral standards that we nominate someone who found it acceptable to remain an active member of a church that espoused not only hateful rhetoric, but which elevated Louis Farrakhan to great heights, Farrakhan having gone on record as thinking Hitler was a “great man”.

· Is it fine with you that we nominate an individual who has a history of associating himself with a coterie of criminals and/or terrorists?

· And, if the above is alright with you, is it also ok that the man we nominate minimizes or claims innocence about these relationships?

· Are you comfortable with nominating someone who has shifted their position on so many issues in such a short amount of time that it is unprecedented for a Presidential candidate?

· Can you ignore the fact that we nominate a person who, as a state senator, avoided controversial issues by voting “present” a disproportionately frequent number of times?

· Do you care if we nominate someone who, as a state senator, ignored the plight of impoverished individuals and families, most of whom were African American, living in deplorable, sub-standard housing conditions in his congressional district?

· Should the above be alright with you, is it also ok that the nominee would have befriended the very person who was the slumlord of those housing units, and that he should accept seed money from this now convicted criminal in order to kick start his campaign?

· Do you feel it shows integrity to make a commitment to an adored colleague and friend by the name of Alice Palmer and then break your word, obliterating her name from the ballot?

· Are you comfortable with a nominee who professes to stand for change while reversing his decision on crucial issues like FISA and off shore drilling, while also expressing a desire to expand Bush’s faith-based initiatives?

· Is it acceptable that a Presidential nominee who touts equal pay for equal work pays his female staffers 83 cents on the dollar as compared to his male staffers?

· And what of nominating a man for President who during a press conference after winning his senate seat, tells the press corps and the American public, that he will not run for President, citing lack of experience, who then proceeds to run for President?

#414 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 5:21 pm

#440

Sorry about spelling errors. Watching a Dodger game.

#415 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:22 pm

#443 Patty

That looks good. My grandmother was German. She never made Goetta for me but she did like bacon.

#416 texassherry on 09.21.08 at 5:23 pm

#446 Anna7000,

That’s a good way to get them back on focus. Although I found the talk of food pretty funny and now I am hungry :lol:

#417 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:23 pm

Anna,
Great talking points.

#418 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:26 pm

Are we calm now. Is the bacon alert over?

My husband said now use the code words nerf bacon to stop the bacon alert.

He also said that in his game if the mod sees a bacon thread they delete it.

Hope that helps.

#419 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:26 pm

Shampoovta,
My family makes it with sausage and steel cut oats.
If you are ever in the greater Cincinnati area having breakfast ask for a side of it.

#420 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 5:27 pm

BOgus Money Balance

I meant to get these numbers up sooner, but I have been greiving for a dear friend who died on Friday of a massive oil leak. She was 20 years old and had hundreds of thousands of miles on her.

If you just looked at the BO/DNC receipts, you would think that they brought in $90 million, but there were alot of transfers and more realistically it was $67.0 million total for BO/DNC (down from $78.6 in July). And that is the convention month. BO’s report of $67.5 million includes a transfer of $12 Million and is more realistically $55.5 Million.

This does not include any contributions recieved by the DNC Convention Committee Fund that reports quarterly. There is $18 million in “missing” transfers that may have gone there.

The net result on the BO/DNC cash on hand was -$.3 million. So they spent just a little more than they brought in.

This guy is just not the big money machine that they thought was going to be bringing in $100,000,000 per month.

FEC Reports: http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/efile_search.shtml

I will send a spreadsheet to Murphy if anyone wants to ask for it.

#421 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 5:30 pm

Because trying to frighten us with abortion isn’t enough, the following is from, can you believe it, factcheck.org I guess they are trying to pretend to be non-partisan:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/scaring_seniors.html

A new Obama ad characterizes the “Bush-McCain privatization plan” as “cutting Social Security Benefits in half.” This is a falsehood sure to frighten seniors who rely on their Social Security checks. In truth, McCain does not propose to cut those checks at all.

#422 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:32 pm

I just look at that live feed of the Palin rally and it is showing driving on the free way.

Is she in the car? What is that?

#423 pooh496 on 09.21.08 at 5:33 pm

Here is a poll that you can vote on your preference for president. On the right side of the page. IOWA

http://www.huxcomm.net/#

#424 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 5:34 pm

Actually, I find the whole BLT conversation a bit icky, as someone noted on the blog recently that it could mean Black Liberation Theology or Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato. All the talk of sizzling bacon, etc, just strikes me as a joke that has potential double meaning. Not sure if it’s intended or not, but of all the foods to select, seems a bit wierd. The blog today is just a bit creepy.

#425 yellowMcpuma08 on 09.21.08 at 5:34 pm

Hello Lovely pumas (((())))) I don’t post much but I read every day, and after almost 100+ days in this blog, I can understand why member ot this blog get so up set for somebody coments, I think is not about republican or democrats, is about NObama, so please stop acting like little kids spending energy in none sense stuff , and concentrate in the real thing. love. -^..^-

#426 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 5:35 pm

Dem4Hillary we all loved Hillary but it’s time to get over it. She will have her time 2012. Meanwhile do you want Obama in power????? I will work for Mccain/Palin to keep Obama out. A no vote or to write Hillary’s name in is a wasted vote.But when you run down everything Mccain has done but not what Obama has done you make one wonder.Time to look forward do you want the lesser of 2 evils or the wrong one Obama???

#427 Defeat the Empty Suit on 09.21.08 at 5:36 pm

Hear Hear Yellow. If you are too busy arguing amongst each other, than all of that energy is taken away from the real issue which it to defeat Nobama.

#428 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 5:36 pm

And for the rest of you quit making me hungry i’m on a diet :)

#429 Cassie on 09.21.08 at 5:36 pm

This is the reason why it’s hard for me to come to this sight. Some people are bashing the Dems and others are bashing Repubs. BOTH SIDE ARE RESPONSABLE FOR CORRUPTION! I keep hearing people say the “holier than thou” crap.
Demforhillary- I don’t appreciate the fact that you, the only American here, is paying for me, an Asian student. I’m Asian and have been paying my taxes and doing my civil duties. I have never once asked for a handout. If you are receiving financial aid, I believe I’m paying for your education. Please do not group together. That does make you sound like a racist.

#430 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:36 pm

#457 pooh496

Who are you going to vote for in the 2008 presidential election?

* (63.89%)John McCain.
* (27.78%)Barrack Obama.
* (4.17%)Ralph Nader.
* (1.39%)Other.

#431 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 5:37 pm

Hi Sandi

#432 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 5:38 pm

Oh good. I’m glad things have calmed down somewhat. I didn’t want to interject earlier, but I’ll just reiterate that this is a NoBama site. I think that has been posted by Murphy on many occasions. I know I couldn’t get someone to vote for McCain or a third party candidate if I tried, so I don’t. We are united by our belief that BO corrupted the Democratic primaries and because we believe that needs to be addressed if we are to have a democratic country. Are the Republicans saints amongst sinners? I don’t think anyone would say that. People hold certain views and that’s their prerogative. We can debate issues without losing our focus.

Just giving my two cents,
Lara08

#433 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:38 pm

#458 Anna7000

What? BLTs are racist LOL :)

#434 LandiPUMA on 09.21.08 at 5:39 pm

TALKING POINTS LIST

Anna7000 #446

Thanks for all the work and for posting the list of talking points (very good, thought-provoking questions!).

Immediately following I’m posting something I prepared about creating & applying talking points-lists, which relates somewhat to your post.

#435 utahpuma on 09.21.08 at 5:39 pm

Anna7000 and others

I found this web site that will produce a news release to 800 college newspapers for a cost of five hundred dollars. Is this something that is of interest to Pumas? I was thinking of our talking points and the Obot voter registration drives.

http://www.uwire.com/content/uwirepr.html?gclid=CMSFs7vr7ZUCFQEQnQoddwEyfw

#436 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 5:40 pm

Anna7000

Just want to thank you for your hard work (as well as so many other Pumas) and contribution to this blog.

#437 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 5:40 pm

This is why i do more lurking than chatting in here anymore. I love to read and write letters from here. I go into most the links put in here and put some in myself.I used to be constantly in here with my 2 cents.I still do my work to keep out Obumbus but quietly

#438 LandiPUMA on 09.21.08 at 5:41 pm

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

TEXT for FLYERS, “VIRAL EMAILS,” and EMAILS to the MEDIA (TO HELP DEFEAT BO)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:arrow: – Share the talking points that you think would be most effective in exposing and bringing down BO. (See those in the Action Center for ideas).
– What points and links are “musts” to include in powerfully convincing Flyers, Viral Emails and Emails to the media?

:arrow: – Share any ‘brilliant’ text you come up with for Flyers, Viral Emails and Emails to the media so we can use as models to compose our own (and to offer our feedback).

:idea: – Good ‘working tittles’ for the Emails or Flyers:
“The Obama the media does not want you to know about” OR “20 Reasons to Not Vote for BO”.

…………………………..

#439 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:42 pm

Anna I put your talking points on word and will be putting them to good use.

#440 HP Boston on 09.21.08 at 5:43 pm

#451 Dem4Hillary———-I have one sister and the worst thing about her is she is a republican.
The sad thing is we have grown apart b/c of it . Most I admit is my fault, I can not bend at all when it comes to Bill and Hillary I simply LOVE them. I am trying to mending my ways b/c life is short and I have convinced myself that politics is a losing battle. I try to keep it in perspective and not drink ANY BODY’S kool-aide.
So read the posts you can , the ones that do not raise your bp and we need all the PUMAS we can get.
In November after the election I am taking my sister on a cruise, I have sold much of my gold jewelry(wow is gold up there) and a week with no husbands, just us and the things we like to do, I miss her.

#441 MKfromLA on 09.21.08 at 5:43 pm

Just sent new flyer to action center.

#442 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 5:44 pm

I WILL BE REPAYING MY federal financial aid at 8.5% thanks to the bush administration…

Repaid my undergraduate financial aid at 4.2% thanks to the clinton administration.

STILL will end up getting a job that pays in real dollar value less than what Alice1943 made at her nostalgic age of 30

#443 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 5:44 pm

457 Pooh496

Voted in poll

#444 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 5:44 pm

Dem4Hillary thats fine i don’t care if you vote for Daffy Duck but don’t be a downer as most of us in here are doing what we can to keep BO out.WE all loved Hillary.

#445 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 5:45 pm

#472 LandiPUMA
Last night I posted a draft of a bilingual flyer that discussed why people shouldn’t vote for BO. I e-mailed it to Murphy and Maryland Puma. They would need to post it in the action center. If anyone wants it they can e-mail me at: lara08pumadem@gmail.com

Best.

#446 LibertyPuma on 09.21.08 at 5:46 pm

Hi Puma’s! Wanted to drop in and check on everyone.

#447 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:46 pm

#479 sandipuma

Fo shizzle

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fo%27%20shizzle%20my%20nizzle

#448 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 5:47 pm

Everyone is not Bush.And look at who was the most and did the most voting in congress.

#449 MsBinMD on 09.21.08 at 5:47 pm

290 mzbest
Thanks for all your valuable info.Didn’t want you to feel ignored since you were always one of my fav pumas …ya know Michael Steele and all lol.
Don’t post much anymore, mostly lurk and todays activities are an example of exactly why……..just not worth trying to do anything good around all this bs.

#450 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 5:48 pm

There’s something wrong with my computer (I didn’t set up the mail section correctly). Is there a different e-mail to contact the action center or is it just Murphy’s e-mail? Thanks.

#451 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:48 pm

#480 Lara08

Did you mail it to Murphy and Maryland or to the Action Center at actioncenter@pumapac.org ? DancesWithPumas works with items sent to the Action Center.

#452 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:49 pm

I to voted for Hillary and will vote for her again but I don’t love politicians. I love my friends and family. :)

#453 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 5:49 pm

Thanks jody in florida. No, I hadn’t mailed it there. I’ll do that right now.

#454 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 5:52 pm

#490 Dem4Hillary

I need a break my self.

Off to post on my space.

See ya.

#455 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:52 pm

#488 shampoovta

I to voted for Hillary and will vote for her again but I don’t love politicians. I love my friends and family.
——————————
…. and bacon :lol: (Sorry, Anna. There is a reason…. You know us SWs. ;) )

#456 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:52 pm

#488 shampoovta

I to voted for Hillary and will vote for her again but I don’t love politicians. I love my friends and family.
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…. and bacon :lol: (Sorry, Anna. There is a reason…. You know us SWs. ;) )

#457 freddiebrown on 09.21.08 at 5:53 pm

Dem4Hillary – I thought you shouted your Goodbye many posts ago. Please come back another day.

#458 DeepSouth on 09.21.08 at 5:54 pm

freddiebrown I second that…..GEEZ! What a buzz kill!

#459 Patty on 09.21.08 at 5:55 pm

“Suppose for example you’re a blogger and you have blogger X and you have blogger Y,” . “blogger X agrees with you on everything but you don’t think that person can blog on anything. blogger Y disagrees with you on half the issues but you believe that on the other half, the blogger will be able to deliver. For whom will you blog?
lol

#460 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 5:55 pm

#479/483 sandipuma
Ditto from me.
#490
No one is degrading your vote.

Wondering how others feel about the fact that Obama needs three days to prepare for debate. Since he is running for President he should know his stuff, not have to study it.

#461 CyberFerret52 on 09.21.08 at 5:56 pm

Hi Pumas,
No mention of Hillary in this group:

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/806762.html

I have read a couple of articles besides this one that say Hillary is only doing what she has to to not be blamed if Oblabla loses. I have been annoyed myself at the “help” she has given the jerk but, we all need to remember that we have no idea what it takes to survive in Washington (especially now) and she has devoted her whole life to her work. I will trust in her judgment from now on. Nearly all of the negative things said about the Senator from New York have been from those people intent on taking her down. Go Hillary! We(?) still have your back.

#462 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 5:58 pm

Amen freddiebrown. Maybe then my headache will go away

#463 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:59 pm

#494 freddiebrown
#495 DeepSouth
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People need to email Murphy, Mama and Maryland with these issues. They don’t always see all of the posts. And they have already received a number of emails on this topic. It’s only a matter of time….

Murphy (murphy@pumapac.org);
MamaPuma (mamapuma@pumapac.org);
Maryland (marylandpuma@gmail.com)

#464 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:59 pm

#494 freddiebrown
#495 DeepSouth
—————————-
People need to email Murphy, Mama and Maryland with these issues. They don’t always see all of the posts. And they have already received a number of emails on this topic. It’s only a matter of time….

Murphy (murphy@pumapac.org);
MamaPuma (mamapuma@pumapac.org);
Maryland (marylandpuma@gmail.com)

#465 CyberFerret52 on 09.21.08 at 5:59 pm

#499 Oops, she was mentioned…but, not as one of his surrogates. Just the usual fund raising.

#466 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 5:59 pm

(I think I’ve turned into Anna, lmao)

#467 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 5:59 pm

If this was just some hokey blog, I wouldn’t care who said what to whom. But this is the PUMA Pac blog, for the 527. I’ve got flyers that will direct people to this site. What would first time visitors think if they see a member disrupting the blog with cursing and name calling? They’ll think that PUMA Pac is made up of nutjobs, that’s what they’ll think.

The cursing and the namecalling and the fillerbustering on anti-republicans must be stopped here. MamaPUMA, Murphy, DancesWithPumas, please put a stop to this!

#468 Dem4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 6:00 pm

I don’t care how many days obama needs to prepare for a debate… it doesn’t affect my vote nor does it appear to affect yours so what does it matter?

#469 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 6:00 pm

#500 if i was a new person coming in here i would swear you were a obot.Believe me you do this blog no good

#470 HP Boston on 09.21.08 at 6:03 pm

#486 Dem4Hillary
I agree it has been a freakish time with the repubs in CONTROL, BUT these greedy gluttons have all been slurping from the same trough. All the pigs in congress have the same color lipstick on, the shade is lobbyist brown. Some just wear a darker shade than others.
They are all trying to solve the worst mess in history and it like asking the fox to restock the hen house.

#471 freddiebrown on 09.21.08 at 6:03 pm

Osaka Puma – I see that you are one of the most active and verbal posters on this blog. You comment very frequently.

I keep looking for something that perhaps you have written, compiled, to help with the action center. Templates, flyers, anything..

I think with your consistent verbal outpourings you should try contributing so we can use some of them for the action center. You sound like you would be good if you put your thoughts into deeds to help us out.

Can you let us know what action you have taken to make sure Obama will not be elected ? You seem very passionate about your COMMENTS – I may have missed reading them, which would be a shame.

Do show us what you can do. I bet it is awesome stuff !

#472 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 6:03 pm

The Clinton Debt

Hillary Clinton’s campaign listed $22.2 million in debt and $1.9 million in Cash on Hand for the August Closing. She transfered $6.5 million, that could not be used to pay her debt, I am guessing, to her Senate Fund. She returned $16.8 million in donations, similarly not usable.

The debt of $22.2 million would include the $13.4 million she has committed to pay so her debt is realistically around $8.8 million. She paid out $2.6 million in operating expenses but I do not know what she is still incurring. It appears to be several million per month. She also has a Friends of Hillary Fund that reports quarterly so I do not know what they have on hand. I do not know what fund handled the T-shirt contest either.

The thing that stands out is the stupidity of the BO supporters that did not pay off her debt. If they had, the Clinton donors who got refunds may have been willing to donate it back to him. Well, maybe they did or maybe they are saving it for 2012.

#473 sandipuma on 09.21.08 at 6:04 pm

#506 i sent out several e-mails to a lot of people asking them to also send them on and to all join us.I don’t want it to all be a waste either.I go into blogs and put in http://www.blog.pumapac.org.

#474 DeepSouth on 09.21.08 at 6:04 pm

Dem4Hillary, you seem to be a person filled with hate and a huge chip on your shoulder. The anger I feel from you is unbelievable. I hope that friends I know who were going to check out this site over the weekend aren’t here right now. Your behavior is disgraceful.

#475 gostrumcat on 09.21.08 at 6:05 pm

#506

I’m with you, Godzilla. You’ve been contributing a lot of great links and material by the way. I haven’t given you my kudos!

#476 Patty on 09.21.08 at 6:05 pm

Just curios… What makes you a democrat?

#477 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 6:05 pm

#513 DeepSouth, I think it is intentional.

#478 sandtraps on 09.21.08 at 6:06 pm

I hope the Emmy Awards are not hudge stage to promote Obama tonight. Wishful thinking?

#479 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 6:07 pm

#514 gostrumcat, but right now the last place I would steer someone is to this blog. If I ran this site, I’d delete the entire thread and ban Dem4Hllary.

#480 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.21.08 at 6:07 pm

On w/ business. (ignoring the disruptions)
We don’t really have “weeks” until the election. Early voting is on the rise. Contacting a many people as possible, every single day is imperative from now until Nov. 4th.

A third of electorate could vote before Nov. 4
Early voting has been on the increase in recent years: In 2004, 22 percent of voters cast an early presidential ballot; in 2000, 16 percent voted early.

It’s a trend that is fundamentally changing the home stretch of American political campaigns. October surprises? They’d better come in September if campaigns want to influence every vote. Get out the vote operations? They’re already under way in some states.

“You can’t hold your big guns right to the end,” said Paul Gronke, director of the Early Voting Information Center at Reed College in Oregon. “When up to 25 or 30 percent of the electorate has already cast a ballot, it might not be wise to wait until the last minute” to make a game-changing play for votes.

#481 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:09 pm

#516 Godzilla
#513 DeepSouth, I think it is intentional.
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Divide and conquer by causing disruption and divisiveness on the blog. Sound familiar? Not very subtle, either.

#482 ladyhawkke on 09.21.08 at 6:09 pm

PHIL BERG: What you can do to help:
Friday, 19 September 2008 00:58

In case you haven’t noticed, this lawsuit is being ignored by the political parties, the candidates, and the media.

We hope you agree with us that Berg v. Obama is an important lawsuit which must be resolved to ensure the integrity of our democracy, constitution, and elections.

As a result, we would like to request that you:

* Phone in to radio and tv call-in shows. Mention the lawsuit and point out that it is important that the public be made aware of Berg v. Obama and the status of the lawsuit.
* Contact the ombudsmen, tip-lines, and action reporters of your local newspapers and radio / tv stations. Ask them why they are not reporting on this lawsuit.
* Post blog entries on popular blogs, especially the blogs of national radio and tv networks and major newspapers.
* Encourage your freinds and associates to take the above actions.
* Write letters to the editors of your local newspapers.
* Print the info sheet and distribute it.

The point of this is to make the public aware of the lawsuit, not to put pressure on the parties to the lawsuit or to affect the outcome.

Some of the talking points you might use are:

* The constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama to be elected president is questionable.
* We could have a major constitutional crisis if the lawsuit is not resolved quickly.
* If the lawsuit goes against Senator Obama, it is important that the Democrats have the opportunity to nominate another candidate for president early enough that the new nominee will have a fair chance to compete in the election.
* Our country will be thrown into turmoil if Senator Obama is elected and then determined to be ineligible to serve as president.
* Review the info sheet for additional talking points

Don’t forget that we can also use financial contributions to sustain this effort. Please click the “Donate” button at the upper left of this window.

Thank you for your time and effort in supporting the resolution of Berg v. Obama in a timely fashion.

#483 DeepSouth on 09.21.08 at 6:09 pm

518 I was here that night and you handled things the same way. You screamed and lashed out. You gave great info, but you presented it like a raving lunatic. You need to learn to communicate in a mature manner.

#484 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.21.08 at 6:09 pm

#519 Godzilla
meeeeee toooooo!

#485 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 6:10 pm

Dem4Hillary
Please email me at MamaPumaMass@aol.com
Thank you
Mama

#486 DeepSouth on 09.21.08 at 6:13 pm

511 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:09 pm
#516 Godzilla
#513 DeepSouth, I think it is intentional.
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Divide and conquer by causing disruption and divisiveness on the blog. Sound familiar? Not very subtle, either.
************************

Unfortunately it’s working

#487 gostrumcat on 09.21.08 at 6:13 pm

Mama’s watching…. YAY!!

#488 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:16 pm

#505 DeepSouth
Unfortunately it’s working
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Not for long. But people need to email Murphy, Mama and Maryland when this stuff happens and then IGNORE the person so that this crap doesn’t keep going on the blog.

#489 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:16 pm

#505 DeepSouth
Unfortunately it’s working
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Not for long. But people need to email Murphy, Mama and Maryland when this stuff happens and then IGNORE the person so that this crap doesn’t keep going on the blog.

#490 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:16 pm

(just call me “Anna” lol)

#491 mzebest on 09.21.08 at 6:17 pm

477 MsBinMD

“290 mzbest
Thanks for all your valuable info.Didn’t want you to feel ignored since you were always one of my fav pumas …ya know Michael Steele and all lol”

~~~~~

Thanks and just for you (and then I’m signing off) — two really great videos of Michael Steele speaking at the Values Voters Summit. I love this guy:

Part 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZZJH0Yqut8

Part 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyh5IDGByzM&feature=related

#492 gordana on 09.21.08 at 6:20 pm

DEMFORHILLARY -

Why don’t you just SHUT UP!!

Enough of your CRAP. If you have a problem, go see a shrink and work it out. NOT HERE!

#493 DeepSouth on 09.21.08 at 6:23 pm

You’re right Jody. I’m going to ignore it, but I do worry about friends. I saw a bunch of them recently and told them about the site. They said they would be taking a look over the weekend. Hopefully not today though!

Should I post this twice? :)

#494 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:27 pm

#501 DeepSouth

LOL. Anna posted 5 times last nite!!! (Don’t tell her I told.)

Just tell your friends that the obots are so afraid of us that they send their trolls here to cause trouble.

I think Mama has fixed the problem. (It was supposed to have been fixed hours ago but trolls sometimes tunnel out of the dungeon.)

#495 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 6:27 pm

This is Mama

All comment should be your considered opinions about the issues – never your opinions about each other.

Please be sure to obey that rule.

Please ignore bad behavior and write to MarylandPuma, Murphy or me – do not take on the offender. It distracts the flow of ideas, the support of each other and the good feelings.

Be good to each other

Mama

#496 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 6:27 pm

bobram I just had the Southwest moderator send you my email addy. I want to send you what I have so far on BO.

laureyI got your email info and will send it to you also.

Hopefully, with a good list we can get it put in the Action Center.

I’m outta here until things calm down a bit. :lol:

#497 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:28 pm

MAMA-

Thank you!

#498 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 6:28 pm

502 MamaPuma

Thanks Mama

#499 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 6:28 pm

MamaPuma

Would you please delete my posts and the other person, I was the main target. I don’t want anyone to see those exchange. Not good for this blog…Thank you madam. :)

BTW……..biscuits and gravy and thick slice of riped tomatoes was goodddddddddddd!!!

#500 windybon on 09.21.08 at 6:30 pm

I found this link on another blog and thought you might like to bookmark it like I did. It concerns O’s supporters and who some of them are.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-30-former-terrorists-bill.html

#501 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:31 pm

Asian–You’re back!

Just wanted to ask you… does turkey bacon taste much different from regular bacon? (off-topic, but I just wanted to know.)

#502 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 6:31 pm

501 JodyinFlorida

How do they get out of the dungeon?

#503 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 6:33 pm

#508 jody in florida

YES! YES! Turkey bacon has more flavor, not greasy and not salty. You’ll love it! You have to spray your frying with a little bit of “Pam”. It’s so good you can eat it for a snack or put it on top of your green salad. I’m not kidding.

#504 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:33 pm

#509 goofsmom
How do they get out of the dungeon?
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Not sure. (I had another answer having to do w/shovels, but I’d better not…)

#505 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 6:34 pm

511 jody in florida

hee hee….. ;)

#506 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 6:35 pm

ANNA, FORGIVE ME…

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ASIAN- RE: YES! YES! Turkey bacon has more flavor,

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Can it be microwaved?

#507 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 6:36 pm

#507 windybon

Thank you very much for the link. ACORN is doing that now. What I find totally appalling a lot of these young people has no idea what they’re getting into. It takes time for reality to set in, but once it does, they’d be full of remorse.

#508 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 6:37 pm

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-earlyvoting-wisco,0,7185096.story

Absentee voting expected to increase in Wisconsin
By RYAN J. FOLEY | Associated Press Writer
11:49 AM CDT, September 21, 2008
MADISON, Wis. – From Madison to the suburbs of Milwaukee, Wisconsin elections officials are reporting strong interest in absentee voting for this year’s presidential race.
–cut for space–
Lehrich said Obama’s campaign would use celebrities and politicians to spread the word about absentee voting on college campuses. But he said its efforts will not be as intensive as in other states because Wisconsin allows voters to register on Election Day and has a history of well-run elections.

#509 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 6:37 pm

Jody,

Yes you can cook it in microwave. :)

#510 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 6:38 pm

514 Asian4Hillary

I love it too… plus no guilt… it’s low fat… yummmmy

#511 DeepSouth on 09.21.08 at 6:40 pm

My darling daughter just got home!! She always brings the sunshine in with her :)

I’ll be lurking later! Have a great evening!

#512 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 6:40 pm

TOPIC: SUNDAY CNN PROWL

Yippee!!!! The CNN Prowl is UP! It’s in the Action Center under “Prowls,”

> Go to:http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

Feel free to add your own sentiments if you want, then come back here & brag!!

Have fun!!!

Hearts – Hills

#513 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 6:41 pm

Reposting link:

http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

#514 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 6:43 pm

As we get nearer to the election, and as a reponse to the flyers, we are bound to have Obots coming here. It might be a good idea to appoint some additional PUMAs as thread monitors…people who have a lot of free time, to ensure that the discourse remains civil and focused on the mission: NOBAMA.

While no one is telling anyone how to vote, it must be obvious to everyone that a concentrated effort to squash any enthusiasm for the McCain/Palin ticket will have the effect of boosting Obama. It is obvious that only McCain can defeat Obama. That’s why “the other’s” filabustering looks so suspect. Personally, I think she hates republicans more than she hates Obama, and will probably vote for him as well. How else can her actions be interpreted?

#515 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 6:43 pm

Would someone please explain to me how British journalists fall for this nonsense?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3024042/Race-an-issue-as-Hillary-Clintons-supporters-shun-Barack-Obama.html

#516 bobram on 09.21.08 at 6:44 pm

#489 LADYHAWKKE – my internet provider has been down for the last hour – so could not get back to the post – why don’t you go into the media part of the action center – under the TV stations that I have been working on for ever and life – send a link to each of them to the Berg lawsuit – these are all the local news stations and not the CNN, MSN, CBS, ABC – etc that will not do a thing for us – if at least one picks it up – maybe others will follow – also the post above from Rodham regarding the magazine that has been smearing Obama would love to have that information – I just can’t seem to find their email contact.

#517 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 6:45 pm

#511 hillstheone

Thank you doing it now. brb

#518 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 6:46 pm

Dances:

I didn’t mean for the postscript to appear at the end of the prowl (I have a million little sayings pop up randomly in my email signature file). Oh well!

folks if you want to leave off the bottom line (“There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other
women.” – Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright) – feel free! However I guess perhaps it is an appropriate saying for this group. ;D

Have fun w/the prowl, also if someone would re-post the prowl announcement in the next couple of hours I would sure appreciate it.

#519 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 6:47 pm

http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=116671

12:14 p.m. – Sen. Clinton on Gov. Palin’s Media Treatment
Reported by: RNS
Sunday, Sep 21, 2008 @12:14pm CST

Ever since Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate, New York Senator Hillary Clinton has mostly avoided discussing or attacking the vice presidential candidate.

Now Clinton is speaking at length about the media’s treatment of a female candidate over a male candidate.

“It’s been a long time that anyone has covered what Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and John McCain wear or their hairstyle or any other personal characteristic,” Sen. Clinton said.

#520 RememberNovember on 09.21.08 at 6:50 pm

MamaPuma

Is there a way to delete some posts but retain the numbers of subsequent posts rather than allowing them to be renumbered? For those of us who get to the blog late in the day it is difficult to follow threads and find information. It may not be technically possible but would be much appreciated if there is a way to do it. Thank you :)

Does anyone know which states allow early voting – particularly the swing states? We don’t have forty some days left to have an impact. The time is now.

I agree with the poster above
- notfollowinthepiedpiper – the October surprise better be a September surprise.

#521 LandiPUMA on 09.21.08 at 6:51 pm

#452 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 5:45 pm WROTE:

#472 LandiPUMA

Last night I posted a draft of a bilingual flyer that discussed why people shouldn’t vote for BO….
—————-

Yes, I did see it and read it. As you may know I’m bilingual (Spanish/Engl). It sounded pretty good to me. I live with someone who’s a professional translator and she read it and also thought it was good, but that there were some words/terms (maybe a couple?) which she felt were not standard Spanish but that maybe they’re OK if these terms are more used and understood among the Hispanic group that the flyer is more geared to (Mexican-Americans??)… I recall one of them was the term you used for “race” (as in “presidential race”).

Anyway, she’ll be back later, and if you want her input, she can offer it.

#522 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 6:52 pm

CNN PROWL

slyt2, michelle, snowtiger, scarlet, dances, gypsymamapuma,
I hope you have fun doing today’s #511 Prowl!!
and I hope middleagefemale, ladyhawke, Anna, headclunker, greenfun, kempion, yournorthern neighbor, EWard, paDem & everyone else will do the Prowl too!

and mamapuma I hope that you do my prowl too because I have been a good puma! ;D

#523 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 6:56 pm

511 hillstheone I haven’t forgotten you. I have 5 things I’m doing and they’ll be good. I’ll send it to you one way or the other.

#524 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 6:56 pm

Hello,
Yes, I used Mexican Spanish. Different regions use different words and people should feel free to tailor the flyer.

Actually, I have a problem with that file. If anyone knows how to convert a MS Word file to a pdf file please let me know and I will forward you the MS Word flyer. Otherwise, i don’t think the graphics will come out.

Thanks,
Lara08

#525 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 6:57 pm

http://earlyvoting.net/states/abslaws.php

Info on which states allow early voting and whether they allow it in person or via mail…

#526 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 6:58 pm

RememberNovember

post #523 for you….

#527 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 6:59 pm

Drudge Report Who has posted articles here before? Is it hard to do? There’s a couple of things I’ve gathered that I’d like to report! Thanks

#528 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 6:59 pm

Patty – Glad you can use what I posted.

Your Nothern Neighbor – Thanks for the kind post.

Utah (433) – Thanks for posting that link. I opened it but the font size was so tiny I just couldn’t make it out.

Lara08 – Keep meaning to say: Thank you so much for translating the flyer into Spanish. Much needed!

Jody – You’re starting to studder, girl! Hope I didn’t give it to ya’!

Hillstheone (510) – Thanks for posting an update re: the CNN prowl and for the link to it. I’ve got it on my “to do” list. Again, much appreciation to you and whoever else was involved in writing the letter and organizing everything!

#529 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 7:01 pm

hillstheone: I’m trying to do the CNN prowl, but the formatting seems to be weird when I paste it into gmail. Currently working to fix it.

#530 Godzilla on 09.21.08 at 7:02 pm

#525 1gypsy4mc, Drudge has a text box on the lower right for submitting tips. If you have URLs, you could paste them into the box, along with an overview of the contents.

#531 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 7:05 pm

#518 RememberNovember
sorry the software is not as smart as you are

#532 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 7:05 pm

This is amazing. I just found it on my space.

Black Hecklers interrupt Obama and say he’s a half-breed KKK supporter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwCJa-bwoOc

Runaway!

#533 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 7:05 pm

#511 Hillstheone

Prowl done to CNN… grrrrr… :)

#534 ladyhawkke on 09.21.08 at 7:06 pm

Someone sent me an e-mail regarding a poll whether Sarah Palin was qualified to be VP and was really upset that Sarah was at 50% and wanted it turned around. When I just voted YES, the result was 56% for Sarah! Go vote! Let’s get her numbers up.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

#535 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 7:06 pm

#513 pa dem

Because they have nothing better to do but interfer with our politics when they can’t even clean their own backyard. UK right now has a very high rate of unemployment. They have all kinds of problems dealing with Muslims in their own country who wanted to change their laws into Sharia.

hillstheone

Prowl is done. Thank you.

#536 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 7:07 pm

Gypsy – You have mail (check spam if not in regular in box). Not related to our group project. Something different. I’ll check my e-mail in a bit to see if there’s a response from you. Don’t post about it on the blog (other than to say you didn’t get it, in which case I’ll resend). Thanks.

#537 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 7:08 pm

Hillstheone

and mamapuma I hope that you do my prowl too because I have been a good puma! ;D

_________________

I know that you have been a good PUMA but I can not find the prowl. Can you please redirect me. As RememberNovember said the numbers have gone wonky.

_____________________

By the way if anyone see Dances, please tell her that I am watching

Mama

#538 Patty on 09.21.08 at 7:08 pm

You are allowed to early vote in Ohio. You can apply for an absentee ballot and vote as soon as you get it.
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/elections/voterInformation/regToVote.aspx

#539 RememberNovember on 09.21.08 at 7:08 pm

#524 VAKatforPalin

Thank you so much for the link.

#513 pa dem

Not making excuses for the journalists from the land of my birth, but they are just reporting the results of a study that came out of Stanford (which has a great reputation in Britain)! :) The more important question for us may be – will the electorate fall for it? I suspect that many will. I have not read the study yet but my husband was ranting and raving this morning about the poor design of the study which would obviously generate the desired result. He was fit to be tied so I guess I should go read it myself!
By the way I have been upset with the British press throughout this election process.

#540 utahpuma on 09.21.08 at 7:09 pm

Anna7000 – is this better?

UWIRE PRESS RELEASE SERVICE
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#541 bobram on 09.21.08 at 7:11 pm

1Gypsy – YOU HAVE MAIL

#542 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:13 pm

516 hillstheone
No problem. I’ll remove.
Lesson learned for next time.
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New Flyers by 55555… BO’s Job Application, in pdf and word (if you want to edit or add)
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Virginia TV stations have been posted
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Anna7000s Talking Pints #2 is up
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Hillstheone’s CNN Prowl is up
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Lara08
Google “pdf converter”+free
for small application to convert docs to pdf files.
I’ll leave the text file only file up until we get the pdf with graphics.
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Talking Points area added to the Prowls and Talking Points page
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Seems like there was something else, but I can;t recall what it is at the moment…
Oh yeah!!

MamaPuma, Everyone is watching you!

#543 bobram on 09.21.08 at 7:14 pm

MAMA – Thank goodness you are looking for Dances – she has her tail caught in the door in the Action Center and I could not pull her out of the room – please help her…

#544 CyberFerret52 on 09.21.08 at 7:15 pm

Pumas,
Usually I see the glass half empty rather than half full but, this time I truly think the door of opportunity is closing on Obama and the pollsters are trying to stick their foot in it. McCain is really ahead…probably in great part due to you. Fight on, get the message out there however you can think to do it. I am so proud to be a Puma! ROARRRRRR! Slash! Growlllll!

#545 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 7:15 pm

hillstheone: Prowl emailed!

Can I just say that our new Post Denver flyers totally ROCK?!

#546 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:16 pm

Hillstheone

I deleted that text in your CNN Prowl

#547 Pookie on 09.21.08 at 7:17 pm

I received this from my brother who, by the way, is a obamabot, simply because he thinks Nobama is for the unions. I sent him some information on Bo and this is what he sent back. I already see one thing on here that is incorrect the story about the jet she did not say she ‘sold’ the jet. Anyway this makes me sick!!!!

Dear xxxxxxx
I encourage you to check out her churchs website http://www.wasillaag.org

Her pastor is BLACK his name is Thomas Muthee, He is Kenyan by the way. You also may want to research him. Her church also believes in speaking in tongues and gov Palin stated ” that the bishop thomas muthee laid hands on her and that is the reason that she became governor”. She said all this before her nomination for VP. This was all on MSNBC. Her pastor is no different than Jeremiah Wright. Her church also believes that ALASKA will be the refuge during the tribulation. This also was on MSNBC. Her 5th child has downs syndrome, but she cut the funding for the alaska special needs program, she also DID NOT reject the bridge to nowhere it was shot down before it got to her. So again there is another lie that she has told. Keith Olberman on MSNBC has agreed to donate $100 for every lie that the Gov palin tells to the special needs program for children in alaska(the same program that she cut funding). The check he wrote on Friday evening 9/19 was for $3,700. Also she didnt know what Bushs doctrine was? She also stated that she put the Gov jet on ebay and sold it ANOTHER LIE… She said she fired the gov chef which she didnt she just gave him a different job description. Her husband refuses to comply with his subpeona for the troopergate investigation in which they tried to get her brother in law fired from his trooper job, but they have nothing to hide…. So before you put her on a pedestal you may want to research her a little more.
The website that the news channels use to check facts is http://www.factcheck.org

#548 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:19 pm

541 bobram
MAMA – Thank goodness you are looking for Dances – she has her tail caught in the door in the Action Center and I could not pull her out of the room – please help her…
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Man! Ain’t that the truth! Could be worse though… I could be you looking up all that contact information for TV and Newspapers.Makes me nauseous just thinking about it.

#549 TerryDo on 09.21.08 at 7:19 pm

Note to TrishInCanada:

I was about to send off your Prowl, Sexism of Sept.21/08 and after reading your letter I noticed that you referred to Heather Mallick as {Michelle Mallick}
I thought you might want to correct your letter.

If someone knows Trish’s email address, perhaps you can send her a quick note regarding same.

Thanks..

#550 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 7:21 pm

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) – Which Barack Obama will show up for the first presidential debate?

It could be the tone-deaf debater who condescendingly told Hillary Rodham Clinton during a Democratic debate that she was “likable enough.”

Or perhaps the confident candidate who absorbed a jab from Clinton about using her husband’s former advisers and responded with a devastating one-liner of his own: “Hillary, I’m looking forward to you advising me as well.”

For a man known as a powerful speaker, Obama has rarely wowed people in political debates. He can come across as lifeless, aloof and windy.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080920/D93AKC7O1.html

This is a MUST read news. :lol:

#551 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 7:21 pm

541 bobram
Oh MY!
Do you think that she is alright?

#552 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:22 pm

MamaPuma

Hillstheone’s Prowl:

Left hand column, second one down

http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

#553 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:23 pm

547 TerryDo

Will do. I think she’s planning on doing that prowl tomorrow.

#554 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 7:23 pm

I thought there was no radio show tonight? I just got an email reminder for it.

#555 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 7:24 pm

That was a hectic video on my space. Some crazy stuff is going on.

It is scary to even repost it.

WOW!

The race thing is terrifying.

#556 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 7:24 pm

Virginia polling data… just shows how wacky the polls are…

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/va/virginia_mccain_vs_obama-551.html#polls

#557 Patty on 09.21.08 at 7:25 pm

Whew prowl done! ;)

#558 bobram on 09.21.08 at 7:25 pm

Mama – I think DWP will probably be ok – just needs to have a little rest and a cold drink or two of the beverage of her choice – she has been a really hard working Puma these days – purrrrr

#559 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 7:27 pm

#553 shampoovta

Just take it easy, there’s a lot of them all over the internet. :) How’s your BLT? :lol:

#560 RememberNovember on 09.21.08 at 7:27 pm

#529 MamaPuma

Thanks MamaPuma – guess I’ll just have to get my act together and be here in real time! :)

#536 Patty, thank you for the OHIO early voting info.

#523 VAKatforPalin – does the action center have the early voting link for all states?

#561 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 7:28 pm

#548 Asian4Hillary

I think it will be the BO that needs a diaper for when he pisses all over himself.

#562 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 7:29 pm

#558 RememberNovember

I don’t know… I don’t think so…

#563 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 7:29 pm

#559 Headclunker

Remember he doesnt want to debate Hillary anymore. McCain asked him for a joint Townhall Meeting, people will ask questions, they answer, he refused.;)

#564 TerryDo on 09.21.08 at 7:30 pm

551 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:23 pm 547 TerryDo

Will do. I think she’s planning on doing that prowl tomorrow.
********************

Thank you, I am looking forward to sending that prowl out myself, I am totally disappointed with the trash coming out of Canadian Broadcasting Corporation especially since it is a crown corporation.

#565 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 7:30 pm

I got out my barf bag and watched the video that was sent out by the DNC with BO’s “economic plan”. He has all these great things planned that he is going to give and do for people but not one word about where he is going to get the money and resources to do it.

Pure propeganda.

#566 Pookie on 09.21.08 at 7:30 pm

#550 DWP: I sent my letters and so did my husband . they went to Rep. Ellsworth, Sen. Lugar and Sen. Bayh

#567 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 7:31 pm

#557 Asian4Hillary

Delicious that is some tasty theology LOL.

Man, I will be glad when I can go back to just being a Jane six pack. The racial land mines are scary.

#568 Patty on 09.21.08 at 7:32 pm

What? My prowl email was rejected.

#569 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:32 pm

558 RememberNovember
No, the SAction Center doesnt have the early voting link, but would love to post it.
Please send to actioncenter@pumapac.org
I thionk yoiu can just click on the link I posted to send the email.
Thanks.

#570 slyt2 on 09.21.08 at 7:32 pm

#511 hillstheone Ok just got online and I’m starting my prowl for you but question how am I suppose to put that in CC box when I don’t have a email for CNN? (inless I’m missing something don’t see a email for them).

#571 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 7:33 pm

McCain and Obama interviews on 60 minutes tonight (now on the East Coast.)

Just FYI….

#572 tillerylakelady on 09.21.08 at 7:34 pm

#433 Utahpuma,
Holy Cow,UtahPuma Thats a great Idea.That way we can reach out to the College Kids,and maybe we can sway a few,with all our info.
Count me In ,I’ll contribute

#573 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 7:34 pm

Well, I couldn’t convert the flyer to a pdf file, so if anyone is interested in it I used the photo of BO from the real Democrats flyer at the top of the page. You guys are better with computers you can use/manipulate the text and can add images/graphics.

Thanks for the help though.

#574 storytellers on 09.21.08 at 7:34 pm

I am not going to discus republican politics, because I am democrat, and what we have to get straight is our dp and the next 4 yrs we are better off without the democrats , unless a miracle happen and we have hillary , bozzo is a peril for our nation, therefore mccain is decent man, thing that i think i could not say about the other candidate

#575 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 7:35 pm

#561 Asian4Hillary

I do not know how he is going to get around this. He does OK with low pressure or one on one interviews but as soon as there is any challenge, like the Cornel platform where they asked him challenging questions. Ever other sentence was a “Uah”. He stank!

Now, he has to do an actual debate with someone who might bring up the Logan Act.

#576 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:35 pm

562 TerryDo
Thank you, I am looking forward to sending that prowl out myself, I am totally disappointed with the trash coming out of Canadian Broadcasting Corporation especially since it is a crown corporation.
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I’m looking forward to doing it too! It’s a good cause, and I love the idea of supporting TrishInCanada who has been mindblowingly supportive of PumaPAC!
I can’t even begin to enumerate the many major contributions she’s made to the PUMA movement.

#577 pa dem on 09.21.08 at 7:36 pm

Here’s the PA link for Absentee Ballots:

http://votespa2-px.rtrk.com/HowtoVote/VotingbyAbsenteeBallot/tabid/78/language/en-US/Default.aspx

#578 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:38 pm

571 Lara08
Can you save the entire flyer with graphic as a jpeg, so that we have a model of what you intended? Or just send the jpeg and I’ll upload that.
actioncenter@pumapac.org

#579 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 7:38 pm

Wow I think Obamas chicken little bounce has hit its peak. Not much of a peak ether.

#580 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 7:38 pm

Utah – Thanks. I should have thought of copying the text from the link into a word document and enlarging the font. Geez. Interesting service. Make sure you send the link to the Action Center.

Hillstheone – I couldn’t format the letter to fit in the e-mail text box right. Any ideas????

#581 Notyoursweetie on 09.21.08 at 7:39 pm

After reading Hillary’s statement on the bailout I set a countdown for how soon Obama will copy her. he didn’t disappoint me
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/what-she-said-watch/

#582 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:40 pm

I couldn’t format the letter to fit in the e-mail text box right. Any ideas????

hold on anna7000 I’ll email the text to you… not the document

#583 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 7:40 pm

528 Godzilla Thanks so much

bobram You have mail

534 Anna7000 Thanks

#584 warrior4hillary on 09.21.08 at 7:41 pm

Women’s Group Condemns NOW

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/20/womens_group_condemns_now_endo.html?hpid=topnews

#585 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 7:41 pm

Oh, gypsy. Glad to see you. I’ll go check my mail.

Dances, thanks. Another good reason to check my mail.

#586 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:42 pm

anna7000
you’ve got cnn prowl email

#587 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 7:42 pm

warrior4hillary

seattle girl posted a comment way up thread about NOW and BO, etc. i wrote a draft of a letter to now that i posted shortly after seattle’s post for anyone to use who might want to contact now, if you’re interested.

#588 Patty on 09.21.08 at 7:43 pm

Prowl done again. I forgot to put something in the subject line. :oops:

#589 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:44 pm

433 utahpuma
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

#590 john on 09.21.08 at 7:44 pm

Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages

THE VILLAGES — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told wildly cheering, flag-waving, chanting supporters that John McCain is “the only great man in this race” and promised Sunday he will fix the nation’s economy if voters give the GOP four more years in the White House.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#591 utahpuma on 09.21.08 at 7:44 pm

Anna7000 – I’m a dummy, how do I send that link to the
Action Center?

Thanks

#592 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:45 pm

586 Patty
That’s okay… at least they have to open it to see what’s inside!

#593 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 7:45 pm

#567 DancesWithPumas
#558 RememberNovember

I’ve sent the link to the action center email… it’s a page of all the states and the District of Columbia’s early voting requirements as well as the laws guiding those requirements…

#594 RememberNovember on 09.21.08 at 7:46 pm

#545 Pookie

If you want to engage your brother in a discussion about Palin, this link may help:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

In particular the comment about cutting funding for special need children – [she increased special needs funding so dramatically that a representative of local school boards described the jump as "historic."]

Your brother quoted factcheck.org as a source – perhaps you could suggest he use it himself! :)

#595 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 7:49 pm

thanks, dances! it worked.

utah – here’s the link to the action center:
actioncenter@pumapac.org

#596 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 7:49 pm

#588 john wrote:
“Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages”

Every last one was sweating like a,.. oh never mined.

#597 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:52 pm

Okay TerryDo
it’s done (Heather)

#598 RememberNovember on 09.21.08 at 7:52 pm

Thanks VAKatforPalin for sending the link to Dances – I was off looking for a link for Pookie.

#599 Patty on 09.21.08 at 7:54 pm

Ha Ha Roland responded with his blackberry.
He said:
“Oh stop with the form letter at least be original!”

We need to send Roland more emails. :evil:

#600 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 7:56 pm

Patty – Are you kidding me? How utterly rude and unprofessional. I’m still working on adapting my letter a bit. Wow, journalistic standards are in the garbage. No professional decorum whatsoever.

#601 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:56 pm

597 Patty
Send him something original then….
tell him what you really think!

#602 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 7:58 pm

591 VAKatforPalin
Fantastic!
I’ll put it in the Elections section and the Research section.

#603 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 7:59 pm

#591 Dances

Glad to be of service… I am very good at research…
:)

#604 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 8:01 pm

Dances – My thoughts exactly. I’m increasing the volume now with my edits to hillstheone’s letter.

Patty – You could always write back an innocent reply, like, So good to hear back from you. I greatly appreciate you not calling me bitter. Unoriginal, but not bitter. I cannot thank you enough.

#605 TrishfromCanada on 09.21.08 at 8:02 pm

TerryDo

Thank you very much for noticing the arror in the cbc prowl. I must have had Michelle on my brain, cause holy! i double checked her name twice and still got it wrong. Dance sent me your post so I popped in to say thank you.

Also wanted to let everyone know that I read that the cbc execs are meeting this week to determine what to do about Mallick, they’re bombarded with mail from angry women and men over the article. We need to leave comments on that article as soon as possible. Plus the prowl. One at a time we’ll nail the sexism if we all work together.

#606 bobram on 09.21.08 at 8:03 pm

Gypsy you have mail I hope – half the stuff I am doing today is getting lost because the internet provider is having severe problems today – ugh.

#607 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 8:04 pm

#579
Very interesting. I wonder if HC and BC set a trap. Kind of like, “look how long it took this guy to follow the leader” sort of thing. Otherwise, I don’t get why HC would talk about her own econ ideas now. Bush, BO and McCain should be presenting theirs.

#576 I’ll try that.

#608 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 8:06 pm

There is going to be a BlogTalk show tonight right?

#609 Patty on 09.21.08 at 8:07 pm

Ok so I sent him a text from my blackberry. I said how’s this for original? I’m not watching CNN because you and others are disrespectful to women.

#610 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 8:07 pm

588 john on 09.21.08 at 7:44 pm Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages

THE VILLAGES — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told wildly cheering, flag-waving, chanting supporters that John McCain is “the only great man in this race” and promised Sunday he will fix the nation’s economy if voters give the GOP four more years in the White House.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
***********
I just read on Yahoo where Biden was in FL and “Biden’s largest crowd during a visit earlier this month was about 2,000.”

Our Hillary’s crowd would have been huge. Dumb Dem’s. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

#611 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:08 pm

Link to early voting requirements/laws is up
(Elections and Research sections)

http://pumapac.org/action_center.html

#612 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 8:08 pm

#607 Patty

LOL

#613 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:09 pm

606 shampoovta
no. it was cancelled. personal responsibilities.
But, it will be on next week.

#614 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 8:11 pm

#608 Middle age female

“Biden’s largest crowd during a visit earlier this month was about 2,000.”

Wow Obama has to do all the heavy lifting himself.

#615 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 8:11 pm

Prowls done

#616 Patty on 09.21.08 at 8:11 pm

Well that was fun.
Good night Pumas.

#617 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 8:11 pm

#611 DancesWithPumas

Coolness thanx!

#618 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:12 pm

VAkat4Palin

Good at research, you say?
I’m going to keep that in mind and are you ever going to be sorry!! (kidding).

#619 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 8:13 pm

My prowls to CNN were rejected. Will try again

#620 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 8:15 pm

Dances,

;) Never… glad to do my part

#621 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:16 pm

603 TrishfromCanada
Also wanted to let everyone know that I read that the cbc execs are meeting this week to determine what to do about Mallick, they’re bombarded with mail from angry women and men over the article. We need to leave comments on that article as soon as possible. Plus the prowl. One at a time we’ll nail the sexism if we all work together.
__________________________________________
Whoa! I was excited enough about doing a Canadian Prowl, but this news makes it all the more exciting!
wooooooooooooohooo!!!
We should do the prowl tomorrow, but then just keep doing it every day, in addition to Murphy’s Prowls, until they have their meeting!

#622 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:17 pm

618 VAKatforPalin

I’m going to let Murphy know you;re available and good at research. I think she may want to enlist your services.

#623 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 8:17 pm

Okay… On 60 minutes Obama just said he was half black/half white… i thought he was half Arab?

Also, just said he got his midwestern Kansas values from his mom…. WTF?

#624 john on 09.21.08 at 8:18 pm

Hey Palin didn’t need a popular band or free beer and got 60,000 Americans of ALL races there

#625 Pookie on 09.21.08 at 8:18 pm

#592 RememberNovember: thanks for taking the time to do that for me I needed some ammo. that is another thing I Love about the Puma’s they not only fight solo but help other puma’s.I knew he hadn’t researched anything someone probably sent it to him when he showed them my emails on Babarf and they were good ones about the fart smeller. LOL

#626 Grizzly on 09.21.08 at 8:18 pm

Dances

Sounds like it’s about time to break out the Obama “beehive hairdo” pic!

#627 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 8:19 pm

Go, go Iraqi girl power!

Iraqi Women Praise American Women and Become Police Officers

http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/09/iraqi-women-praise-american-women-and.html

#628 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 8:21 pm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaRace.htm

Check out this site… scary…

#629 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 8:22 pm

440 Dem4Hillary So are you going out with me Friday night or not?

#630 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:23 pm

624 Grizzly
LOL! That thing cracks me up!
Have you looked at the new Puma Cash?? (Flyers, Cash, Docs section.

http://pumapac.org/action_center.html

#631 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 8:24 pm

okay… the Arab part is obviously a rumor… should have done my own research on that one…

#632 Grizzly on 09.21.08 at 8:25 pm

Dances – that’s PERFECT!!!

http://pumapac.org/docs/Obalin.jpg

#633 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 8:26 pm

This is something, I think all of us know exactly what this is all about. Maybe because we are not easily persuaded by platitudes but we use “thinking” which is alien to some who literally fall for his platitudes non-stop. As we’ve all experienced threats, intimidation, racist remarks, mysogynism, we remain steadfast to our objective to defeat him. Many are angry or wondering why we’re not supporting NObama, maybe if they understand the principles of Democratic Process they’ll never ask that question.

=====

The Incredible Shrinking of Obama

True, Oprah had passed her potent wand over him, but even the afternoon regent of a thousand therapies has stays on her sorcery. Mainly, his was very much a candidacy constructed by those who were drawn to him. If there was any meaning to that fortune-cookie poeticism that “we are the ones we have been waiting for,” it was that his campaign was a feedback loop. People saw what they came to see. Mr. Obama was the slate; the crowds brought their own chalk.

This is the nature of Mr. Obama’s particular kind of charisma. People project their best wishes on him, they fill in the blank of a very attractive and plausible outline. His is not, emphatically, a charisma of deeds. For what has he done, save run for president? He is an accommodating vessel – cool, smart, biracial and “unfinished.” This is the Gatsby quality of him that others have noted. Like Gatsby, he is a receptacle of others’ glamorous invention.

People see in him, or wish to see, the last great ideal of the American polity fulfilled, a final and full racial accommodation. That should he be elected president, America will have achieved, by his singular persona, the perfect emblematic demonstration of having exorcised at last the great stain of its racially riven origins.

Mr. Obama’s charisma is, in this sense, external, something extended to the candidate. And it follows that that which is given may equally be taken away. The sparkle has, in fact, dimmed. He travels now in a lower orbit, closer to Earth – which is to say, he grows more mundane. The great word “hope” sounds less frequently now. He picks a running mate thick with the dust and rancour of many long years in Washington.

His acceptance speech in the Olympic-style stadium could not gather the inspirational energy of his earlier arias. Of late, the flash supernova of U.S. politics is seen “competing” with a second-on-the-ticket female governor of a remote state. There’s more than a gap between the “audacity of hope” and “lipstick on a pig.” The mouth that spoke the first phrase should not be capable of the second.

He has shrunk into a combative partisan. He crowds his own screen, leaves less space for projection. Others are not writing his narrative now – he’s inscribing his own.

A candidacy that leached so much of its energy and drive from the imagination of others, Gatsby-like, is shedding its gift. The narrative stage is over. It’s all tactics from here on in.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080919.wcomurph20/BNStory/specialComment/home

#634 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:28 pm

629 VAKatforPalin
… should have done my own research on that one…
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:roll:
LOLOLOLOL
oh my.
Murphy’s Law (That other Murphy) ;)

#635 RememberNovember on 09.21.08 at 8:29 pm

Pookie – you are welcome – happy to help :)

#636 mick on 09.21.08 at 8:31 pm

I’ll take my BLT on wheat, thankyou! ;-) Glad I missed the fireworks. :lol:

********* Anna7000*********

Sorry, I was busy doing mommie stuff today. Hey Anna, are you still on the blog?

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#124 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 2:10 pm

Mick – If you’re around, post a note and I’ve got an idea for you!

#637 Defeat the Empty Suit on 09.21.08 at 8:32 pm

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/obama-picks-up.html

ABC’s Sunlen Miller reports: Since yesterday, Sen. Barack Obama has spoken on the phone with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd, Rep. Barney Frank, Sen. Chuck Schumer, Rep. Ralph Emmanuel, former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Clinton about the economic situation and the plan for dealing with it.

LOL PUMA’s. You can go to the link and comment if you want.

#638 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 8:33 pm

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-mediasep17,0,6325137.story

Good, this article was picked up by Drudge when I sent it. (So far, they have posted at least 4 things I put there, so keep it in mind.)

http://www.drudgereport.com/ Copy & Paste in the little box down on the right side.

#639 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:33 pm

630 Grizzly
I create dthat this morning, or was it yesterday? whatever…
I’ve been inserting it as a picture inton my responses when I receive email from Oooooooooocreepyick.
It says all I have ot say to them.

#640 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 8:33 pm

NOBAMA bumper sticker….

http://www.nobamastuff.com/

#641 halligan on 09.21.08 at 8:34 pm

Kentucky and Obama (just across the River is Ohio-swing, swing):

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0106/809210382/1060/NEWS0104

#642 halligan on 09.21.08 at 8:36 pm

Someone upstairs mentioned Obama following Hillary’s lead on “bailout”. See below:

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2151408020080921

#643 Patty on 09.21.08 at 8:37 pm

Ok I’m back. I think Roland is watching the wall. He knew I was going to bed for the evening, gave me just enough time to get comfortable and the responded to me again.
:lol: Seriously what big time TV guy corresponds via his blackberry to a complaining PUMA?

#644 slyt2 on 09.21.08 at 8:37 pm

Who’s talking about being original he send us all the same response
roland@rolandsmartin.com
to me

show details 7:41 PM (54 minutes ago)

Reply

Oh stop with the form letter. At least be original!
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
The one to Campbell brown came back not deliverable anyone else get send back?

#645 halligan on 09.21.08 at 8:39 pm

Financial Leadership, NOT:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7815778

#646 Patty on 09.21.08 at 8:40 pm

Me: I sent the form letter

Roland: Oh stop with the form letter. At least be original!
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

Me: Ok how’s this for original? I’m not watching CNN because of you and others who
are disrespectful to women.
Sent from my BlackBerry device from Cincinnati Bell Wireless

Roland: Your call. But women were never disrespected. And I see that you NEVER
complained in 2007 when CNN and everyone else called Sen. Clinton the inevitable
candidate and how she was unbeatable. Did you forget that? I’m sure you did.
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

#647 LaureyPuma on 09.21.08 at 8:41 pm

Asian4Hillary, thank you so much for the link! I am going to call the McCain campaign office (across the street from my office – convenient) and send the volunteers that link. They should have some people they can pass it on to!

I bought some Puma athletic shoes today – I love them ! Really comfortable and a great political statement all in one.

#648 halligan on 09.21.08 at 8:43 pm

The importance of the Presidential debates:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/3042964/John-McCain-secures-presidential-debate-advantages.html

#649 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 8:44 pm

btw, the Presidential and VP Debates schedule is posting in the Action Center

#650 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 8:50 pm

I am going to do Trish and hillstheone prowls now.

One question for hills: should we also cc the CNN advertisers?

#651 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 8:55 pm

#627 Alice1943

She’s gone now, for good. But I was going to ask you about that, LOL. Too bad you didn’t get back until AFTER she left. Would have been funny. And I was so looking forward to that….

#652 max on 09.21.08 at 8:55 pm

September 21, 2008

Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages

By Bill Cotterell news-press.com capital bureau

THE VILLAGES — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told wildly cheering, flag-waving, chanting supporters that John McCain is “the only great man in this race” and promised Sunday he will fix the nation’s economy if voters give the GOP four more years in the White House.

“He won’t say this, so I’ll say it for him,” the Alaska governor said in an almost confidential tone at the close of her first Florida stump speech. “There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you. John McCain wore the uniform of his country for 22 years — talk about tough.”

The Villages, a vast, upscale planned community north of Orlando, has about 70,000 mostly adult residents — many of them military retirees — who vote reliably Republican in statewide races. Tens of thousands inched along roads into the picturesque town square of the complex, where they stood in sweltering heat for about four hours as local GOP officials and a country band revved up the crowd.

“Sa-Rah! Sa-Rah!” they chanted at every mention of her name, applauding loudly and waiving tiny American flags that were distributed — along with free water bottles — by local volunteers. The fire chief estimated the crowd at 60,000.

Admiring throngs mobbed the Palin family’s arrival and departure, snapping souvenir pictures. Autograph seekers thrust campaign signs, caps with the McCain-Palin logo and copies of magazines with her face on their covers, and the Palins responded warmly.

Palin, her husband and three of their children arrived in Orlando but spent a family day at Disney World, she said as she introduced her entourage to the enthusiastic crowd. She joked about similarities and differences of the two states at opposite corners of America, but was all business when she focused on the need for a large voter turnout in a hotly contested state with 27 electoral votes.

Recent polls have given the McCain-Palin ticket a single-digit edge but Florida is clearly up for grabs. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., campaigned from Jacksonville to Miami late last week and the Democrats have mobilized a massive volunteer effort statewide. McCain, who led the Jan. 29 state primary with a big boost from popular Gov. Charlie Crist, has strong support in the vital I-4 corridor and across North Florida, where conservative southerners tend to register as Democrats but vote Republican in statewide races.

In a theme Palin would pound home, GOP Chairman Jim Greer Greer said Obama and his running mate, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, have records of voting for higher taxes and have said on the campaign trail that they would increase regulation of financial markets.

“John MCain and I are going to take our case for reform to every voter in every background and every party, or no party at all,” said Palin. “We’re going to Washington to shake things up.”

She said “John McCain warned Congress that we needed to do something before these problems became a crisis,” but that Washington — including Obama and Biden — did not act for months as financial giants teetered and toppled.

“Americans are caught in kind of a perfect storm between high taxes, high gas prices, greed on Wall Street and a shortage of courage in Washington,” she said. “But we need new leadership in Washington — we need serious reform on Wall Street.”

Palin, whose son shipped out for Iraq this month, made a point of asking veterans and military members in the crowd to raise their hands for a round of applause.

Then she recalled that McCain took an early, unpopular stance in support of the Iraq troop surge, a policy shift now widely credited with stabilizing Iraq. “That’s the kind of man I want as commander in chief,” she shouted, as applause and whoops rose in the town square. “John McCain is the only great man in this race.”

http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022

#653 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 8:56 pm

OBAMA’S FEMALE STAFF SALARIES NOW EVEN LOWER THAN PRIOR REPORT (just a penny above the national average that he claims he’s going to fix!) Sheesh.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972Home

#654 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 8:58 pm

REQUEST

If people have a news story, can they just post the link along with a brief description instead of posting the link AND the entire text?

#655 Anna7000 on 09.21.08 at 8:59 pm

Mick,

Regarding your offer to collect contact info for conservative publications, I had an idea related to that:

Given that conservatives have a vested interest in ensuring that Obama does not steal this election, and given his campaign’s track record on integrity (or lack thereof) in this area, and given that the Dems are going to great lengths to ensure nothing occurs as happened back in 2000 to Gore with Florida and all (i.e. the Dems have a vendetta), I’d assume conservatives would want to do all they can just as PUMAs feel similarly motivated regarding potential election fraud. So, this is a long winded way of saying: Do you think it makes sense to urge those who frequent conservative media to become poll workers?

Related to that, do you think it makes sense to alert conservative media about the caucus fraud that occurred in order to further drive the point home that no one can afford to feel secure how about his election will go down and how we all need to do our part, in addition to voting, to make sure the election is honest and fair? Providing a link to Dr. Long’s site, along with a brief summary of what happened in caucus states, would be an easy way of doing it (http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/).

I’m not proposing organizing any of this because I’ve already got a lot on my plate at this moment, but wanted to share the thoughts with you.

Also, just as an fyi, a piece about the caucus fraud that occurred is going to be printed in Pajamas media next week! This could serve as a great reference point toward any of the above action ideas.

#656 catsarepumas on 09.21.08 at 9:01 pm

RASMUSSEN POLL PROWL – apologies if anyone posted above.

Here is the response I received:

“Our weighting is based upon independent research. We do not set them arbitrarily.

Our research consistently shows more Democrats willing to vote for McCain than Republicans willing to vote for Obama.”

#657 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 9:02 pm

I’d really like to know why we taxpayers have no say in the approval/disapproval of this bailout of AIG. A little study reveals that it’s not necessary. In fact it is a huge scam on the taxpayers.
So much for a government ‘of the people, by the people, and for the people’. Oh, that’s right—no one ever said which people.

#658 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:02 pm

Oh my goodness…I thought I posted something earlier and now I cant find it..

My hip has been feeling like its out of socket so I had to take a pain pill..maybe Im just losing my head lol

#659 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 9:03 pm

#645 halligan

That was a good story.

#660 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 9:04 pm

Are the Democrats now in California are in panic because of Palin Factor? I thought it was McCain who is in the state of panic, something’s wrong with NObama and DNC rhetoric. :lol:

#661 4hillinca on 09.21.08 at 9:05 pm

#641
Mine came back too.

#662 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 9:06 pm

Dances
Can you dance?
Can you dance with your tail in the door of the Action Center????

#663 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 9:06 pm

mine didn’t come back. You have to put a comma after first email addy.

#664 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:11 pm

all this stuff we hear about the obama campaign paying the female staff less,sliming hillary with sexism,some referring to women as ho’s and making light of sexism in general…
all these things make me suspect that there is a islamic connection here because obama was brought up a muslim..islam distributes power and empowers men at the expense of women ..every man a king in his house..the slave of course being the woman..
and you have these idiot fools like NOW supporting islamic-like tactics

#665 TerryDo on 09.21.08 at 9:11 pm

603 TrishfromCanada

Also wanted to let everyone know that I read that the cbc execs are meeting this week to determine what to do about Mallick, they’re bombarded with mail from angry women and men over the article. We need to leave comments on that article as soon as possible. Plus the prowl. One at a time we’ll nail the sexism if we all work together.

Hey TrishFromCanada, I just finished my prowls regarding Heather Mallick, I sent one from my home email, my husbands, email and my gmail account. I also sent a copy of my email to my sister and asked her to forward the email after placing her name in place of mine.

You did not put a subject title so I typed ….Future V.P. Palin Insulted By Mallick

That should get his attention…

#666 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 9:12 pm

659 MamaPuma
Of course!
And I’m dancing as fast as I can, let me tell you! :)

#667 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 9:13 pm

#657 Asian4Hillary

I can tell ya every Dem Kool Aid drinker I talk to only talks about Palin.

Palin and trooperscam or she shoots wolves or she is a crazy Christian.

Yet, I saw a few McCain Palin yard signs just below Ojai.

Ojai is the Hobbeton of the Kool Aid drinkers but they for get that area was red neck central be for Hollywood discovered it. ;)

I grew up in Oak View and we don’t like that stuck up Hollywood crowed at all.

#668 Headclunker on 09.21.08 at 9:14 pm

Todays prowles done. One of the Cnn emails came back and the form did not deem to work so I sent it to the Advertising email link

#669 Middle age female on 09.21.08 at 9:16 pm

HILLARY’S DEBT:

I heard on tv last night that Hillary only took in a little over 1 million in Aug, and still owes her vendors 9 million, besides what she owes herself.

#670 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 9:16 pm

Just for the record.
I have already announced that everyone in the Western Hemisphere knows that I am up past my bedtime.

PUMAs you are going to have to learn how to get along with each other without me.

Love and good night
Mama

#671 tennaseepuma on 09.21.08 at 9:17 pm

He used some of Hillarys economic points on 60 minutes interview tonight.

#672 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 9:18 pm

#664 shampoovta

What makes Sarah Palin appealing to the people, she’s authentic, she’s real, she doesn’t have to be anything different; she’s like a breath of fresh air. She doesn’t pander, she tells it as is, which a lot of people appreciate a lot. She talks a common language, no hifalutin words NObama always use to show his prowess of the English language, in a subtle way telling his listeners, “ I’m smarter than you, I know what is good for you” which doesn’t bode well with the people. ;)

#673 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 9:20 pm

#667 MamaPuma

MamaPuma we sure of could use your help. I don’t mined a difference of opinion but that was just out of hand.

But don’t stay up to late. All good Pumas need there beauty sleep. :)

#674 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:20 pm

asian4..
prisons are loaded with some of the smartest people out there :wink:

#675 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:20 pm

I was wondering if anyone has any examples of sexism from Barack Obama. I have many from the media, and the lip stick on a pig comment and calling a journalist sweety…

Does anyone have anything else?

#676 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:21 pm

caracal..sure ..HILLARY CLINTON

#677 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 9:21 pm

667 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 9:16 pm Just for the record. I have already announced that everyone in the Western Hemisphere knows that I am up past my bedtime.
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Whoa, Mama must be reeeeally old…

#678 SARTOM on 09.21.08 at 9:22 pm

GO VOTE if you want to know if you agree or disagree with *61………. on all the issues…….takes about 5 minutes.

http://www.barackobamatest.com/?fuseaction=home.options

#679 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 9:22 pm

Voter fraud… (I’m sure this has been posted before, but…worth repeating…guy worked for ACORN)

http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1216864520180960.xml&coll=1

more voter fraud info…
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/24/acorn-watch-where-is-luis-r-torres-serrano/

Particularly the post on loosened voter registration rules for college students in Virginia

#680 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 9:23 pm

#673 osaka puma
caracal..sure ..HILLARY CLINTON
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You type faster than I do. LOL

#681 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 9:23 pm

#674 DancesWithPumas

I am veerrrrryy old. But you should meet my Mama

#682 blondlady on 09.21.08 at 9:24 pm

I’ve been pretty down the last few days because of the polls. Even though I’ve told myself they are too close to worry about I can’t seem to break the habit of reading every new one that comes out. Then today I met a friend who I haven’t seen in almost a year, she travels a lot and meets with lots of people. She said that when a group gets together for lunch break or after work, she can’t hasn’t found anybody who is voting for Obama. So, in spite of the polls, that made me feel better. And now Tony Romo just threw an interception that caused the Packers to go ahead. So now I’m down again. Marion Barber thinks he’s a train!

#683 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 9:24 pm

#674 DancesWithPumas

Forgot to tell you Dances. Mama left you a message before. Wanted us to tell you that SHE IS WATCHING YOU. LOL

#684 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:25 pm

look at it.. obamas fortunes have been won by using sexism and its worked very well for him..first he finished off hillary..now hes trying the same thing with sarah

#685 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:26 pm

Also I wanted to thank everyone for visiting the web site and for sending other people to it. We have had over 3000 visits so far. I am adding new content every day.

I am looking for links now on sexism, any confirmation on the Logan act information, and any other info you would like me to work on. You can send me anything you have on the contact us page on the web site.

http://puma-facts.com

#686 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 9:26 pm

675 SARTOM

Who benefits from the results of the survey on the site you just posted?
Not willing to assist oblowhard is deciding which side of issues will garner him teh most votes.

#687 tennaseepuma on 09.21.08 at 9:27 pm

Hey Carrie he pays his female staff less than his male staff……..

#688 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:28 pm

well, I know that sexism played a huge role and I have a page about all of the sexist remarks about Hillary on the site, but those were all from the media. I am really looking for anything from Barack himself.

#689 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:29 pm

caracal.. do you think obama is that stupid?

#690 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 9:30 pm

#669 Asian4Hillary

Just remember we have a Republican Governor that I didn’t even vote for. Now how do ya think that happened? There are a lot of Repubs in California.

For instance when I went to Pismo for our vacation all I saw was one Ron Paul sign. That is it. Ventura had a lot of Ron P signs be for Obama was even a factor. They are still up.

I see a few new Obama signs but it is not like 04. That W sticker was on a hell of a lot of surfers vehicles out here back then.

It is still a liberal fish bowl but that is because Democrats are load. I know I use to be one.

#691 Defeat the Empty Suit on 09.21.08 at 9:30 pm

FYI. Over at Free Republic there is a poster that was at the rally and said that some women had PUMA’s for Palin signs there.

#692 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:31 pm

ok osaka no I don’t and Im not stupid either…but I know that he has pulled some stupid crap so I was hoping maybe someone knew something….

Like maybe the 99 problems intro…that was pretty stupid.

#693 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 9:32 pm

#685 Caracal Carrie

How about all the times he minimized Sarah Palin’s experience–how he kept referring to her as a mayor from a small town w/no experience vs. governor of a large state w/more experience than he has?

#694 tennaseepuma on 09.21.08 at 9:32 pm

CARRIE here is two items listed about bozo talking trash about Hillary..

#695 MamaPuma on 09.21.08 at 9:32 pm

#680 jody in florida
Thanks!

I think that Texas and Gypsy are also watching.

Be wonderful to each other.

We are the ones that no one was expecting

Mama

#696 tennaseepuma on 09.21.08 at 9:33 pm

Sorry i forgot the post
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/is-obama-using.html

#697 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:34 pm

Thanks TennaseePuma

#698 tennaseepuma on 09.21.08 at 9:35 pm

CARRIE HE IS THAT STUPID……
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/is-obama-using.html

#699 shampoovta on 09.21.08 at 9:35 pm

Hay guys I got to give up the computer to husband and cook some dinner.

LOL;)

Ill be back later.

#700 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:35 pm

liberalism only works when the economy has a fundamentally sound basis ,theres more crumbs left over to throw out to the peasant and keep them quiet..
..people tend to not care about politics during good times because they are too busy consuming and being self-absorbed with their selfish interests..

#701 blondlady on 09.21.08 at 9:36 pm

#685 Caracal – That will be hard to find. Remember when talking about Hillary, Bill said BO doesn’t slime her, he gets everybody else to. And notice that BO says he “denounces” all of this bad stuff, yet he’s always in the room when it comes out. He’s very cunning when it comes to covering himself.

#702 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 9:37 pm

678 MamaPuma
#674 DancesWithPumas
I am veerrrrryy old. But you should meet my Mama
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LOL!

PS I was hoping to catch Maryland or Murphy so they could delete that comment before you returned tomorrow morning, but you tricked me by returning this very night!

#703 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:38 pm

blondlady..precisely..obama lets his surrogates say the really bad stuff

#704 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:40 pm

ok thanks

#705 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 9:41 pm

http://www.usafricaonline.com/chido.obama08houston.html

A little something to raise the blood pressure…and just a taste of what it says…

“…Senator Barack Obama, the savvy, hardworking son of a Kenyan immigrant and White mother, shattered the iron-gates of what seemed culturally and politically impossible.

He did it by creating the most cross-ethnic and trans-generational coalition in the history of American politics; indeed of any modern society. He did it by resolutely and clearly defeating his hard-charging, relentless opponent, former American First Lady New York Senator Hillary Clinton and the entire bare-knuckle Clinton machine for the Democratic nomination to become the first African American with a credible, viable and realistic chance of winning the presidency of the United States. On June 3, 2008, Obama won convincingly past the “magic number” of 2,118 delegates.”

#706 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 9:41 pm

TOPIC: CNN PROWL

Asian4Hillary
goofsmom
padem
Patty
Dances
slyt2
mama
Anna7000
4hillinca
yournorthernneighbor

Thanks Everyone for doing the prowl, keep it going!!

Quick clarification: this is a 2-part Prowl, first an email sent to Campbell Brown and Roland Martin at CNN, then posting the same message on CNN’s Advertising link. It is posted on the right side of this page, second link down:
http://www.pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

p.s. Patty I loved what you wrote back to Roland.
I’m going to do my prowl now and tell him about the Caucus Fraud, i.e., “so when’s CNN gonna start reporting about the Caucus Fraud?!” lol….

#707 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:42 pm

“I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal.”

I don’t think the sexism in that can be missed and that is definitely not from a surrogate…

Thanks TennaseePuma

#708 murphy on 09.21.08 at 9:42 pm

Hey it’s not Sunday morning anymore is it??

#709 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 9:46 pm

Carrie,

Here’s a site that lists a lot of obama quotes… if you think any of them help, let me know and I’ll see if I can find the background for them…

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaQuotes.htm

#710 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:46 pm

sometimes if you look at the big picture..its not really just about obama..its about something bigger that so many americans have connected with in his hope and change message.. he is just the messenger and he has deftly navigated so far the powerful currents of a raging river of anger and frustration..
…too bad the guy is a crook,fraud and liar..hehe

#711 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 9:47 pm

It isnt sunday somewhere in the world…true.

#712 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:48 pm

Thanks Kat

#713 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 9:49 pm

#675 SARTOM

Oh my goodness! I just took the test, I DISAGREE on EVERYTHING with NObama! Maybe the reason for this is simple, I’m a Constitutionalist, I treat the US Constitution second ONLY to the Bible. ;)

#714 murphy on 09.21.08 at 9:50 pm

has everyone voted in this fun, simple poll?

PBS wants to know if you think Palin is qualified to be VP:

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

thanks to discopuma

#715 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:50 pm

“If [black] nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.”

any idea what this one is about?

#716 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 9:51 pm

56% think Palin is qualified

#717 Pookie on 09.21.08 at 9:51 pm

#678 Sartom: I did the test and maybe I should not tell the results but I disagreed 46 out of 51 which meant I disagreed with Bo 90% ( I wish it had been 100%)

#718 Noblecascade on 09.21.08 at 9:52 pm

someone may have already posted this but did you see that Obama is going to take a 3 day study session before the debates! Article on Fox.com

#719 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 9:52 pm

664 osaka puma I have thought the same thing several times. It might help expplain why MO is rarely by her husband’s side.

#720 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 9:52 pm

caracal..it means.. we have to take care of business and who gives a damn what those white folks think

#721 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 9:54 pm

I disagreed with 49 out of 51.

#722 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 9:55 pm

Carrie,

Apparently, that quote is in his book, “Dreams from my Father” and is his way of stating that Farrakhan’s black separatist capitalism is just not practical…

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/03/17/obama-flew-to-dc-to-attend-farrakhans-million-man-march/

#723 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 9:55 pm

Murphy

Take this test.

http://www.barackobamatest.com/?fuseaction=home.options

I took the test. I did NOT agree with NObama even ONE of his stand! I’m still shock here!

#724 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 9:57 pm

Basically, in reading more, it seems that it was a discussion on anti-whiteism…

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/02/farrakhan-issue-its-always-all-about.html

#725 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 9:58 pm

On this question:

1. Should a doctor give medical care to a fetus that survives an abortion, or should medical care not be given?

NObama agree on this, but he voted AGAINST BAIPA . The man is a LYING SACK OF SHIT! :twisted:

#726 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 9:58 pm

osaka…. well said…

#727 TrishfromCanada on 09.21.08 at 9:59 pm

#662 TerryDo

Thank you for sending from so many accounts, I sent from 4 of my acounts also. I am so hoping she gets fired. And thank you for encouraging your family to do the prowl.

I didn’t even notice that I forgot a subject heading, thank you again. As you see I’m so used to doing Puma prowls I simply copy and paste without even thinking. Shows how much trust I have in the Puma leadership. And how good they are at their job, I bet they’ve never forgotten a subject line :)

On Friday, I had 7 of my coworkers send off letters to Harper and Dion after I gave them the article to read. Luckily, they have a lot of respect for what I say to them, so they knew that when I was so ticked off with CBC that it was for a good reason. Plus two of them happen to be Sarah Palin fans and are still angry about the lipstick comments, and three have disabled children, the other two are strong supporters of women (these two are men).

Friday was a big day for me, I stepped outside my comfort zone and involved my coworkers and it felt great.

#728 mick on 09.21.08 at 9:59 pm

#652 Anna7000 said,

“Do you think it makes sense to urge those who frequent conservative media to become poll workers? … “

“Providing a link to Dr. Long’s site, along with a brief summary of what happened in caucus states, would be an easy way of doing it
(http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/). ….”

“a piece about the caucus fraud that occurred is going to be printed in Pajamas media next week! This could serve as a great reference point toward any of the above action ideas….”

**********************

Anna7000,
on your first point, great idea! I can mention the voter fraud and encourage more involvement and add this link http://www.eac.gov/voter/poll%20workers
Adding Lynette Long’s link is good too.

I don’t have time to work on this tonight but I’d be happy to do this and can get on it tomorrow.

Goodnight all.

#729 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 10:00 pm

723 Asian4Hillary I have this strange feeling that Murphy took this test already. I posted this a couple of weeks ago. Ok Murphy – fess up! :lol: :lol:

#730 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:02 pm

#730 WHoo hoo!!!!

#731 Nijma on 09.21.08 at 10:02 pm

#619 Dances with Pumas:

I googled the Mallick thing and came up with this current thread:
http://news.spreadit.org/thats-all-we-have-for-now-on-heather-mallick-cbc-palinheather-mallick-sarah-palin-blast/#comment-2581
and left a comment that is now in moderation”

Does Ms. Mallick have no political differences with Sarah Palin to talk about that she has to resort to a crude personal attack?

But the comment I left is not on the thread of the agency that published it, so how much impact might it have?

When I originally read the article, I remember thinking well, I just can skim it to the end because this is an obvious crackpot article and unimportant. But thinking again, yes, we have to push back on this kind of thing. How can anyone even think it’s okay to write like that about any woman.

I wish you had some kind of sidebar with recommended stuff to comment on with a brief explanation, so we wouldn’t have to skim through 700 comments every day to find out what is important.

BTW I’m not signed up for the official “prowls” because 1) I wish to remain anonymous and 2) my time is limited– but leaving a one line comment for trash like that takes 5 minutes and is worth the time spent.

How many more people like me would go out of their way for 5 minutes a day to squash misogyny in the media?

#732 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:02 pm

you know if obama would have been honest and explained to the american people ..laid his cards on the table and explained his experiences and ideas..he would have made history and would have made the greatest stride in racial relations..i think americans would have accepted him more and he would have probably won easily the presidency..
BUT,he blew his chance at history by being a crook,liar and fraud..

#733 1gypsy4mc on 09.21.08 at 10:03 pm

729 1gypsy4mc “a week or so” ago.

Right Murphy? :lol: :lol:

Or it could have been someone else……..

#734 catsarepumas on 09.21.08 at 10:05 pm

Campbell Brown is not rejecting email.

“This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

campbellbrown@cnn.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected campbellbrown@cnn.com (state 14).

#735 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 10:06 pm

If this ‘bail out’ goes through, it’s not going to matter one whit who is elected. And our children and their children will have only slavery to look forward to.

#736 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:08 pm

CNN PROWL UPDATE

On CNN’s Advertising Page http://www.cnn.com/services/advertise/contact_us.html I entered:

Mary Richards
mary@mcvote.com
Title: CEO
Company: Women International
Category of Business: Political Action Committee

It wouldn’t go thru so I’ll try again tomorrow!

Since CNN’s their web page is kaput today, just
USE THIS EMAIL ADDY for their ADVERTISING EXECS:

cnndigital@turner.com

Oh & Campbell’s CNN email addy doesn’t work either (maybe she went into hiding?), however between Roland & the Ad Execs I’m sure Campbell will get an earful…!! ;D

> Thanks again everybody for contacting CNN! <

#737 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:08 pm

731 Nijma

Are you referring to TrishFromCanada’s prowl in the Prowl and Talking Points section of the Action Center?

The sidebar suggestion is a very good one. Would you be willing to take that on as a project…either by yourself or with a team you form?

You could participate in Prowls anonymopusly by creating a free gmail or other host account, and using it solely for the purpose of Prowls.

#738 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:08 pm

632 Grizzly on 09.21.08 at 8:25 pm

Dances – that’s PERFECT!!!

http://pumapac.org/docs/Obalin.jpg
————
God, that is frightening!

#739 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:09 pm

latest development on the bailout thing.. the US govt will include foreign banks that have institutions here in the USA..
..isnt that just “ducky!”

#740 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 10:10 pm

Thanks everyone, I have to lay down..this pill is making me loopy.

I will be on begging for links tomorrow lol

#741 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 10:10 pm

ichael Reagan: Wall Street Bailout ‘Robbery’

Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:08 PM

By: Phil Brennan Article Font Size

The runaway government bailout of Wall Street at taxpayer expense is nothing less than “robbery,” according to Michael Reagan.

The top-rated talk-show host and Newsmax columnist told the 5 million listeners of “The Michael Reagan Show” on Friday that their pockets and those of their fellow Americans were being picked clean by the panic-driven bailout.

“Democrats Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, Jamie Gorelick, Penny Pritzker, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are robbing the American taxpayer, and Republicans in the House and Senate had been tapped to drive the getaway car,” said Reagan.

“In a political system where well-paid Democrat operatives can enrich themselves at the expense of the American people with zero downside, there is no incentive to behave properly, when the taxpayer will bail you out. Enough is enough, bad decisions have consequences and those consequences ought to include indictments and jail time for those who cashed in.”

Speaking to Newsmax.com, Reagan added: “I hope John McCain will not shrink from pointing the finger of blame where it belongs – at Barack Obama, who fed greedily at the trough of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac while their top people, including two of his own campaign associates, were flim-flamming the American people. It’s a Democratic scandal from beginning to end, and the American people deserve to know it.”

#742 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:11 pm

#732 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:02 pm

you know if obama would have been honest and explained to the american people ..laid his cards on the table and explained his experiences and ideas..he would have made history and would have made the greatest stride in racial relations..i think americans would have accepted him more and he would have probably won easily the presidency..
BUT,he blew his chance at history by being a crook,liar and fraud..
————
After seeing him in the debates with Hillary, I was willing to let him ride with training wheels on….with Hillary in the drivers seat… but the feeling of giving the guy a chance when eroded quickly when I realized his supporters and media hated her. He was done at that point in my mind.

#743 catsarepumas on 09.21.08 at 10:11 pm

Whoops, I meant is now rejecting mail. #734

#744 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:12 pm

Has anyone heard any ‘good’ news today?

#745 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:12 pm

catsarepumas

I posted their email addy you can try that, thank you so much!

Also, catsarepumas & Everyone, there are some nice PUMA (cougar) photos on this link you can add to your stash!

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/wildlife/cougar/

They have a brochure w/great photos too but I’m still looking for it…just my way of saying “Thank You” for doing the prowl!

#746 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:14 pm

obamas fatal error..he doesn’t understand the american way

#747 Beca4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:14 pm

Good evening everyone,

I just want to let you all know that I went to The Villages in Florida today to see Sarah Palin and she was awesome! But something got my attention went she was coming out. I was looking at the screen and I saw a McCain/Palin sign that said “PUMAS 4 McCain Palin”. I was wandering who that was, I got all exited and I took a picture!

#748 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:14 pm

Got and email from Attorney Berg today, his reply to what is happening:

Hi Billie Jo,

If Mr. Obama and/or the DNC fail to Answer, I will seek a default judgment against them which grants what we have requested.

It is hard to speculate what the Defendants will do. Time will tell.

Phil

#749 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:14 pm

742 BillieJo
But BillieJo, up until a week or so before Denver, you said you woudl vote for him if him chose Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton his VP. Remember?

#750 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:16 pm

billi joe.. thanks for keeping us informed on the berg case.. were with him all the way on this one

#751 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:16 pm

Nice PUMA photos for all you Good PUMA’s:

click on the middle PDF, “Oregon is Cougar Country” :

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/wildlife/living_with/living-with-cougars.asp

#752 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:18 pm

I support bailing out foreign banks, you may wonder why. Plain and simple, USA will own it and CONTROL it. In Banking you better have a control over another banking institution if you can get it for a bargain, that is once in a blue moon chance to do so. This is real economics, benefits for every taxpayers will be felt about 10 years from now. If you want to be on top of the food chain, you better learn real quick and recognize when opportunity is offered is right infront of you.

#753 Pookie on 09.21.08 at 10:18 pm

#744 Billiejo: My little 2 year old grandson that I am raising put his arms around my neck and said love mamaw that was the best news I have heard today

#754 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:19 pm

#327 hillstheon
Hiya hills. :)
I just read your letter (trying to catch up).
Good points. However it may be a better idea to take the points and compose our own letters. Thats what I’ll be doing.
Great, probably better than what I’ll write. :)

#755 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:20 pm

I thought about Pauli and Marylou’s push to leaflet parking lots. We have very little avenues to get out the info on this guy.
Maybe we should start leafleting the Catholic Churches on sundays. lol

——–
I just got the above email from Goandersen about pushing flyers out….

HOW ABOUT POSTING FLYER INFO ON CRAIGSLIST?
YOU CAN TARGET INFO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, ALL AREAS FOR FREE.

#756 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:20 pm

#753 Pookie on 09.21.08 at 10:18 pm

#744 Billiejo: My little 2 year old grandson that I am raising put his arms around my neck and said love mamaw that was the best news I have heard today
———
That is just what you needed. :lol:

#757 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:21 pm

billiejo,
I think the best news I heard today (just my opinion) is that the Debates will start on Friday!

Murphy: Friday might be a good day to do a fundraiser, I’m sure our collective energies will be “up” that day! ;D

#758 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:22 pm

in today’s email:

“Dear USA TODAY Reader:

On behalf of the Editorial Board of USA TODAY, thank you for the letter
to the editor you submitted.

Your opinion is important to us. If your letter is one of those selected for publication, congratulations. The competition for space is keen… etc. etc.

Again, thank you for your interest in USA TODAY. We look forward to
hearing from you again.

Sincerely,

Brian Gallagher
Editor of the Editorial Page

~ ~

Comment: who knows what I wrote to them?! It’s been a while. Maybe it was comments about Obama Nation!

#759 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:23 pm

#749 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:14 pm

742 BillieJo
But BillieJo, up until a week or so before Denver, you said you woudl vote for him if him chose Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton his VP. Remember?
————-
I do, it had nothing to do with HIM, it was all about Hillary. I will do anything to push her up, even if it’s to step on him on the way up. Hillay 2 terms as VP, then as Pres 2 terms, I could live with that and give her time to get Universal Health Care going.

#760 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:24 pm

snowtiger: have at it, from the heart (or gut?) will be very effective, I’m sure!

I need to go see if Roland wrote back to me yet, he wrote back to several others…

#761 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:25 pm

Here’s another thing, which might have escape a lot of minds. Think what is the value of stocks now China bought in companies here in the US? The biggest competition of USA is China. Many of you are angry right now, let me just say this, USA have just save our necks. The Federal government is no fool, our people working behind the scene know exactly what they’re doing to keep this country on top.

I remember when wallstreet crashed in the 80′s, guess what country hit a nosedive? JAPAN. Up to now Japan has not recovered. The reason China’s economy is booming, they don’t want their currency (RMB) to be peg to any currency, they decide to assign value to their own currency. Our banking system “sneeze”…….oh brother! China got hit big time and middle eastern countries. :lol:

#762 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:25 pm

#750 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:16 pm

billi joe.. thanks for keeping us informed on the berg case.. were with him all the way on this one
———-
No problem, sometimes it takes him days to reply to my message. I asked him what would happen if Obie and Dean didn’t respond to his suit…that was his reply.

#763 murphy on 09.21.08 at 10:25 pm

Asian4Hillary — I took the test, thanks!

I guess I’m a Democrat — I agreed with the Obama position 59% of the time!

See! I really am NOT a Republican!

:-)

#764 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:27 pm

#763 murphy

Well after Nov 4th I guess 95% of us will all be considered Republicans……………. :roll:

#765 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:28 pm

:lol: murphy

#766 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:28 pm

759 BillieJo
It’s that your previous post didn’t seem to jibe with taht. I got it now. Thanks.

#767 hillstheone on 09.21.08 at 10:28 pm

From Wickipedia:

“Patrick Henry (May 29, 1736 – June 6, 1799)[1] was a prominent figure in the American Revolution, known and remembered for his “Give me Liberty, or give me Death!” speech.

Along with Samuel Adams and Thomas Paine, he is remembered as one of the most influential (and radical) advocates of the American Revolution and republicanism, especially in his denunciations of corruption in government officials and his defense of historic rights.”

I guess there is a little bit of Patrick Henry in all of us PUMA’s…

#768 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:29 pm

Well after Nov 4th I guess 95% of us will all be considered Republicans…………….

oh godjesus…

#769 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 10:29 pm

How many zeros in a billion?

This is too true to be funny.The next time you hear a politician use the word ‘billion’ in a casual manner, think about whether you want the ‘politicians’ spending YOUR tax money.

A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its releases.

A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.
C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our government is spending it.

While this thought is still fresh in our brain, let’s take a look at New Orleans It’s amazing what you can learn with some simple division

Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D),
is presently asking the Congress for $250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans . Interesting number, what does it mean?

A. Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, child), you each get $516,528.
B. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787.

C. Or, if you are a family of four, your family gets $2,066,012.

Washington, D. C

Are all your calculators broken??

Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

CDL License Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Dog License Tax

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax

Fuel Permit Tax

Gasoline Tax

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax

Inventory Tax

IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax),

IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax),

Liquor Tax,

Luxury Tax,

Marriage License Tax,

Medicare Tax,

Property Tax,

Real Estate Tax,

Service charge taxes,

Social Security Tax,

Road Usage Tax (Truckers),

Sales Taxes,

Recreational Vehicle Tax,

School Tax,

State Income Tax,

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA),

Telephone Federal Excise Tax,

Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax,

Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax,

Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax,

Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax,

Telephone State and Local Tax,

Telephone Usage Charge Tax,

Utility Tax,

Vehicle License Registration Tax,

Vehicle Sales Tax,

Watercraft Registration Tax,

Well Permit Tax,

Workers Compensation Tax.

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’

And I still have to ‘press 1′ for English.
I hope this goes around the USA at least 100 times

#770 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 10:29 pm

#763 murphy
I guess I’m a Democrat — I agreed with the Obama position 59% of the time!

See! I really am NOT a Republican!
——————————————
Oh good. Now I don’t feel bad about my 76%. I’m still a Democrat (whew!)

#771 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 10:30 pm

This is a link to the Tax Policy Center’s comparison of the tax plans of BO and McCain…

a little hard to read but if you click through the pdf doc is a little easier to understand… it shows the change to your individual income tax (in many different instances) as well as the change to corporate tax your employer will have to pay for you (I believe… :(

I’m not a great tax person, but it seems to be right…

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?template=simulation&SimID=266

#772 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:30 pm

hills.. puma slogan..” give me hillary, or give me sarah”
:wink:

#773 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:30 pm

I’m a big supporter of Second Ammendment (lifetime member of NRA). ;)

#774 murphy on 09.21.08 at 10:32 pm

The Chinese stock market is down 60% this year.
The Chinese government recently repealed most of the taxes it imposed on the market to cool it down, but the market’s recovery is far from certain.

The Chinese economy may be booming, but at what costs? Wages for professionals are down. A college graduate with a degree in computer science earns roughly $10 an hour in most provinces. Pollution is RAMPANT —

Quality control for crucial goods, like medicine and baby food, are an international DISGRACE.

Workers are sick and dying with absolutely INADEQUATE or NON-EXISTENT health care.

I dont want an economy that booms like that.

#775 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:32 pm

#772 osaka puma

Oh! I like that!

” give me hillary, or give me sarah”…….Good one!

I still wish Hillary is the one running for President right now. :(

#776 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:32 pm

#766 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:28 pm

759 BillieJo
————
Yes, I have always been the lone black PUMA on this issue. Hillary above all else. :lol:
She is my hero, what can I say.

#777 TerryDo on 09.21.08 at 10:33 pm

727 TrishfromCanada on 09.21.08 at 9:59 pm
Friday was a big day for me, I stepped outside my comfort zone and involved my coworkers and it felt great.

I am sure your coworkers, when they read that article by Heather Mallick were appalled also, and they probably respect you for your political stance.

What the DNC does to the highest of their(female) memberHRC, imagine what they would do to the least of their members.

It truly irks me when a woman attacks another woman, especially when Mrs Mallick has probably never even met Governor Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin is relatively new to the greater public and her entrance on to the public stage was pretty impressive to me.

I encourage all Pumas to send this prowl out tomorrow and that you keep it front and center for tomorrows prowl.

With election time coming around for Harper also, I am sure he does not need any bad publicity and just might act quickly with this incident.

#778 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:33 pm

#768 DancesWithPumas
Means the republicans have just improved. :)

#779 murphy on 09.21.08 at 10:35 pm

darn Jody, you got 79% ?? I feel inadequate!

I agreed 100% on reproductive freedom. I disagreed a TINY bit about gun control (I think hunting is okay, but I support a 500% tax increase on handguns (hell yeah!) and would love to see a total ban on handgun sales (not gonna happen I know, but I can dream)) and I disagreed a TINY bit on taxes.

#780 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:35 pm

#768 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:29 pm

Well after Nov 4th I guess 95% of us will all be considered Republicans…………….

oh godjesus…
———-
Now there’s a new expression :lol:

Better a temporary Repubublican then an Obot.

#781 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:35 pm

snowtiger…
their average intelligence quotient just went up 10%

#782 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:35 pm

#774 murphy

China ain’t booming now, you don’t hear a word from China since last week. I think all of them are busy doing their computation with their Abacus. …he he he

Don’t you know the number of of their unemployment is BIGGER than total population of USA? At least 350 million Chinese are unemployed. It is normal in China for one job opening to have 50,000 applicants.

#783 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:35 pm

BillieJo
I’m with you on that one!

#784 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:36 pm

Asian4Hillary
Took the test. Dissagreed wit Carpathis 90%.
Frightening.
10% agreed. I need to rethink those positions.

#785 murphy on 09.21.08 at 10:37 pm

wow — asian — I did NOT know that.

#786 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:37 pm

snowtiger

Oh my goodness! I don’t know what to say. :lol:

#787 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:37 pm

snowtiger

Oh my goodness! I don’t know what to say. :lol:

#788 jody in florida on 09.21.08 at 10:38 pm

#779 murphy

Some people on the blog disagreed 100% of the time. My mom tells me that people become more conservative w/age, so I’m gonna play the age card here, LOL.

#789 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:38 pm

murphy….
good points!
china is booming alright but china is also always on the edge of exploding into another revolution because of its slave state and utter contempt for human rights..
only 150 miilion chinese are sharing in this so called boom..many of them making less than 1000 dollars a year.. china has a population of about 1 billion 300 million people..
you dont piss off 1 billion 300 million people

#790 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:38 pm

DancesWithPumas
At as minimum, at a minimum my friend.
Funny thing I was talking to customer today and emphasizing how a McCain victory would pull the republicans toward the center. One of my constant talking points with the undecided.
I do believe I got through to her. :)

#791 slyt2 on 09.21.08 at 10:39 pm

A little story off topic (kind Of) my supposed best friend guess what she did? Any guesses anybody, No give up. Well she put a Obama/Biden sign in my yard last nite. I was sooo pissed I grabbed that thing and torn it into little pieces (it felt good) then i threw it into my pit fire (to be burned in a bit). Some best friend huh…..

#792 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:40 pm

#786 Asian4Hillary
Ah, I know how to see it. We have difrent reasons for our postions. I support the feds getting warrants to protect due proccess. He supports them to help the terrs.
Obvious now.
As I suspected I agree on nothing with him. :)

#793 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 10:40 pm

Love this site of BO lies….

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLies.htm

#794 goofsmom on 09.21.08 at 10:41 pm

791 slyt2

Yeah some best friend… hey you could return the favor and put a McCain/Palin sign in her yard….

;)

#795 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:41 pm

sly2..
now you have to go in your friends yard and plant a mccain palin sign :lol:

#796 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:41 pm

#791 slyt2
With friends like that, who needs a punching bag?
Remember, STEP into your punches.

#797 BillieJo on 09.21.08 at 10:42 pm

Murphy————–

Do any of the big paws have info on finding the count of the delegates in Denver? Is it dead in the water?

#798 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:42 pm

Murphy

VAKatforPalin excels at research…
I told her that you might require her services. ;)

#799 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:43 pm

Better yet Sly, send a donation to McCAIn in their name with all pertinent information. :)

#800 Lara08 on 09.21.08 at 10:43 pm

#791
A friend sent me an ant-Palin/HC e-mail and tried to make out like she was just making a joke. I sent her back quite an e-mail. She’ll never do that again.

#801 Your northern neighbor on 09.21.08 at 10:44 pm

777 TerryDo

I followed your lead on Trish’s prowl by adding the title: Mallick insulted V.P. candidate Palin. :mrgreen:

#802 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 10:45 pm

Dances…

Thanks soooooo much ;)

(but it’s the least I can do…)

#803 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:46 pm

DOes anyone have a link to but that republican button the was pink and said “It’s a girl” ?
My two female employees want one each.
I will give them out as a perk. :)

#804 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:46 pm

#785 murphy

The China we saw on TV is not the real face of China. The media itself is owned by the Chinese Government. When I went to China with my friend to visit her Auntie, it was an “unforgettable” experience. We’re going to have lunch with her Aunt’s family….oh my! I went to their family kitchen (more or communal kitchen), he Aunt was cooking roaches, all wings were removed. I mean deep frying it! Then she cooked it again with chinese spices. I was hungry, but NOT that hungry. I told my friend I was full, I had chewing in my mouth. They have two TV sets but the channel are all government propaganda.

The real face of China will never be seen by people outside of China; its not a beautiful face. :(

The Olympics look real nice, the poor people were moved out of the city by the military since last year, taken to provinces foreigners will never visit. Movement in China is LIMITED especially for foreigners. You just can’t go anywhere you want or please, you can ONLY visit designated spots by Chinese Government.

#805 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 10:46 pm

snowtiger,

I just ordered one today… I’ll send you the link..

#806 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:47 pm

Yeesh. I’m sure it has been talked abouot but, I just saw the poll about race. How the polls “says” racial issues turn some dems away from OBama.
Here we go people.

#807 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:48 pm

VAKatforPalin

Anything for the cause!
Seriously though, you will appreciate the salary that goes with that position.
:roll:

#808 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:48 pm

#805 VAKatforPalin
Thank you. :)

#809 Grizzly on 09.21.08 at 10:48 pm

675 Caracal Carrie on 09.21.08 at 9:20 pm I was wondering if anyone has any examples of sexism from Barack Obama. I have many from the media, and the lip stick on a pig comment and calling a journalist sweety…

Does anyone have anything else?
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Here’s a few:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/is-obama-using.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juy9NwI8_i0

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/05/27/video-a-compilation-of-sexist-comments-about-hillary-clinton-in-the-msm/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8

#810 NJPUMA on 09.21.08 at 10:48 pm

803 snowtiger

Buttons:

http://www.goptrunk.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=24

#811 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 10:49 pm

I handed a post-Denver Puma dollar to a clerk in Costcutter grocery store. She said she didn’t know Hillary was on money and asked me how to change a 44 dollar bill. I raised an eyebrow, thinking she was just kidding me and asked her who she’s voting for. She said Obama.

#812 NewOrleansPuma on 09.21.08 at 10:49 pm

MURPHY: You may not want a booming economy like that and neither do I but that is what globalization is about: Globalization is a cute word for a return to what in this country one would call Adam SMith 19th century capitalism, prior to the rise of the trade unions, labor laws, health prosciptions in working conditions and the like., unlimited work days, no child labor laws…no mininum wage. I know you know this but clearly many in this country have no idea of the history of labor and its effect on the workplace.. Globalization is not a good thing. It is that which is going to turn and it is happening very quickly this country into a 5th world country. Obama/s plans for this country send it further and further in that direction. I am heartsick at it all and have been since it really began in earnest under bozo Ronald Reagan.

#813 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 10:49 pm

Snowtiger,

Here you go (it’s $1)

http://www.goptrunk.com/product-p/btr4041.htm

#814 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:49 pm

asian4…
here in the USA they smoke roaches.. hehe

#815 Asian4Hillary on 09.21.08 at 10:50 pm

Osaka puma

that’s a different kind of roach…..hahahaha!

#816 DancesWithPumas on 09.21.08 at 10:51 pm

Alice1943

Ahahahahahah!!
You could get rich going around to different stores in obot neighborhoods and buying a pack of gum with those $44 dollar bills!

#817 VAKatforPalin on 09.21.08 at 10:51 pm

Dances,

There’s a salary? WOW! :lol:

#818 murphy on 09.21.08 at 10:51 pm

dwp #798 — excellent!

billie jo #797 — funny you should ask that! I was just talking today with someone who has tracked down the tally sheets for most of the states and is getting ready to release them.

#819 Alice1943 on 09.21.08 at 10:52 pm

810 NJPUMA The pink button with the elephant and words, ‘it’s a girl’ was cute, I thought.

#820 osaka puma on 09.21.08 at 10:53 pm

speaking of china..i’ll tell you one thing.. if they ever got those 1 billion 300 miilion chinese all rowing in the same direction it would be all over for the USA or for that matter everyone else..
:wink:

#821 slyt2 on 09.21.08 at 10:53 pm

thanks for the advice everyone I was thinking about the McCain sign in her yard , I also like the punching bag thing I told her last nite don’t come home (she lives across the street from me) lol.. Funny i haven’t seen her all day long.

#822 snowtiger on 09.21.08 at 10:53 pm

#813 VAKatforPalin
Thanks again. Very cool. I will order 20 of them and get free sign. A buddy of mine, union activist asked me to get hima y