Howard Dean: Unfit to Lead

Howard Pilots the Swift Boat

We warned yesterday that the Obama Movement and the DONC were preparing to head for the low road. Less than a day later they’re well on their way down into the mud. They’re trying to raise money from Democrats to fund this little pipe bomb of malodorous gas under John McCain. 

Remember, Democracy for America, the group begging for money to fuel up the Swift Boats, is the PAC founded by Howard Dean to put his 50-State Strategy into action. It’s what catapulted him into the driver’s seat at the DONC, and is now run by his brother Jim.

Oh, and it’s a pathetically lame attempt at swift-boating on top of everything else. The entire ad is boring, unpersuasive, and embarrassing. The talking-head guy has a sour-puss on and rushes through his innuendo-laden attack as if he’s ashamed to be where he is. He oughtta be.

And another thing. Back in 2006, John Kerry said, “I won’t stand for the Swift Boating of any candidate. Help me in fighting back!” Hmmm, wonder what he’ll have to say about Howard and Obama’s new ad. I hope you’re not holding your breath.

UPDATE: Riverdaughter reminds me of Anglachel’s article from late last night that is a MUST read. Basically, Anglachel is explaining in far more detail and with more background evidence what I was saying last month:

Oh, and the DONC still gets the willies when it gets in close contact with actual representatives of THE WORKING CLASS! EWWWW! I see poor people. YUCK! Why can’t they just go to the dentist for crying out loud? We don’t really have to associate with those freaks do we? (Great way to appeal to voters, Guys).

The thing about Republicans, as wrong as they are about pretty much everything, is that they are UNAPOLOGETICALLY BADASS about their base. They like Christy Todd Whitman and Carly Fiorina and Orrin Hatch, but they LOVE T. Boone Pickens, and Tom Delay, and now, Sarah Palin. Republicans are not embarrassed by the more kooky, less groomed wings of their party — the religious fanatics and gun nuts, the cowboy bizness men who thumb their noses at the law, the down-home shotgun ranch families with more children than dogs or more dogs than children, who can keep count — they LOVE them. They are proud of them and proud to be in the same political party with them.

I don’t think it’s a simple pander for votes (and even if it is, why the hell can’t the DONC learn to do this effectively??) I think a college drop-out like Karl Rove, who makes it all the way to the highest pedestal of power in the world, is absolutely flat-out tickled pink that half of his party is made up of people who have never been inside an Institute of Contemporary Art or an Ivy League library, but yet can still beat the political crap out of every lily-livered weakling in the Whole Foods parking lot. I think they LOVE that stuff.

The DONC, on the other hand? Love their base? Not so much.

The DONC hates their base. Hates, hates, hates us. Wishes we would all just go under a rock and pretend we don’t exist (except on Election Day when they try to shame and goad us into going to the polls for them). I argued then that the RNC is the exact opposite. They LOVE thei r base. Love, love, love them. From the hillbillies to the oil billionaires; the church ladies to the Carly Fiorina’s, the Republicans get all giddy and chest-thumpin’ PROUD when they’re all in the same room together. THAT’S WHY THEY WIN AND WE ALMOST ALWAYS LOSE. Riverdaughter is also a Must Read this morning.

801 comments ↓

#1 bythelake on 09.17.08 at 10:03 am

Top 10?

#2 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:04 am

Carrie – I’m still laughing!

#3 bythelake on 09.17.08 at 10:04 am

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! (#1 this morning)

Am waiting to post so others can get up the stairs…

My downstairs post;

OBAMA, Party Unity My Ass!

#4 queen81 on 09.17.08 at 10:07 am

goodness Carrie, I’m still wiping the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard at that story!

#5 mkp651 on 09.17.08 at 10:08 am

Murphy Swift boat is also buying ads on facebook. Found some loop hole where they don’t even have to list who they are.

#6 Kempion on 09.17.08 at 10:08 am

Or, perhaps, Hillary is showing her true colors: she wants to be the center of attention. Just a thought.

The Jewish-American League (or whatever their name is) has come out and said they will not support Obama.

#7 justnotright on 09.17.08 at 10:09 am

I still think of Howard Dean as that crazy guy who shrieked like a strangled muppet during his failed presidential bid.

#8 stoney42 on 09.17.08 at 10:10 am

If Hillary and Sarah both appear at the rally, the msm will concentrate on them and not the purpose of the rally. Since the UN is in NY, I think Senator Clinton should have been invited. Gov. Palin was invited because she is running for VP. Palin should not have been included as a speaker at the rally.

#9 blondlady on 09.17.08 at 10:10 am

I was downstairs fiddling around, looked up and everybody was gone. So, I’ll say it again:

I just heard about Hillary pulling out of the UN Jewish rally supposedly because Sarah Palin was also invited. At first I was disappointed, but after a second cup of coffee, I saw the light. I think the Clinton’s know that this would anger many in the Jewish community and the response would be a jump to the McCain side. I read recently that BO has made good strides in recruiting the Jewish vote and this oughta check it. I don’t think the Clinton’s want BO to win any more than any of the PUMAs, but, they have party obligations that we don’t have. If we don’t see a trend of Jewish votes going to McCain, then I’ll go back to being disappointed and more.

#10 hillaryistheone on 09.17.08 at 10:11 am

#8 stoney42, LMAO another you can’t play…this is my playground…I thought we were grown up??????

#11 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 10:11 am

scarlettpuma on 09.17.08 at 9:07 am Puma’s I just heard on Fox News that Hillary isn’t attending the Rally outside the UN Monday, because Sarah Palin is to be there. I think we should email Hillary to let her know how disappointed PUMA’s are in her!
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The reason for the cancellation coming from Hillary’s staffers (not Hill herself at this point) is that she was upset because she did not know Palin was also attanding and was unaware this was a “partisan” event. Huh?

With both Dems and Repub’s invited there, it would have been a BIPARTISAN event. It would have only been a partisan event if Hillary was the only one there. This is a private organization, and can invite whomever it wants.

Biden was not invited because he is in the bag for Iran. He has taken a load of contributions from groups linked to the regime in Iran, and has gone so far as to tell Jewish officials in Israel that they needed to get used to the idea of Iran having nukes.

I’ll withhold final judgment until we hear from Hill herself, but this looks incredibly BAD. It makes Hill look like a petulant child. And it makes her look like a partisan hack that refuses to be her glow dimmed by Sarah Palin. I was shocked to hear about this, and it will not bode well with voters, let alone Jewish voters, who support Israel and/or believe Iran is a serious threat to our security.

And it is just another example of the same old partisan bickering that drives people from both parties toward the independent column. How about putting your country before your party, for once?

#12 hillaryistheone on 09.17.08 at 10:12 am

Why shouldn’t our Country be JOINED in this effort…excuses, excuses, excuses!!!

#13 justnotright on 09.17.08 at 10:12 am

I can’t blame the organizers… they have to do what they have to do to get attention for their issues…

I don’t blame Hillary for backing out and I don’t blame Palin for accepting.

I do blame Obama and the DNC for putting Hillary in this general predicament she is now in.

#14 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:13 am

Fox showed a picture of a Cougar, but it is one of Puma’s photos and said they have their “claws” out!

#15 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:13 am

Hey , these are African killer bees ,people !!!!! They hurt !!! LOL

#16 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 10:13 am

“The turmoil in the capital markets is bad news and is forcing each candidate to reassess their current pronouncements on the economy. So, let’s ask some questions. Of the two candidates for President, who got the most money from the two financial giants now in the news–Lehman Brothers and AIG?

McCain received $117,500 from Lehman Bros.
Obama received $370,524 from Lehman Bros.

How about AIG?

John McCain got $36,875 from AIG
Barack Obama raked in $75,899 (+205%)

Got that? Barack Obama, the guy who supposedly is not beholden to special interests, took three times as much money from Lehman Brothers and more than twice as much from AIG.

Gee, and who did the now Government financed mortgage broker Fannie Mae give its money to when it wanted to influence a politician?

OpenSecrets lists the top three politicians in which FNMA “invested” from 1989 to 2008.

Top Recipients of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008Name Office State Party Grand Total

Dodd, Christopher S CT D $165,400
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 ($6000 came from the PAC)
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000

What about McCain?

The folks at Fannie Mae didn’t show him a lot of love. According to Open Secrets:

McCain, John S AZ R $21,550 (all from individuals).

Oh yeah, and who tabbed the former head of Fannie Mae to head up his Vice Presidential search team? OBAMA, that’s who. Back in May Barack turned to Jim Johnson, former CEO of Fannie Mae.

When it came time for a tough decision who did Barack turn to? A former community organizer per chance? Hell no! He went with the inside the beltway uber lobbyist.”

READ MORE: Barack Obama, Wall Street’s Go to Guy?
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/17/who-was-in-wall-streets-pocket/#more-4868

#17 SARTOM on 09.17.08 at 10:13 am

Hillary concedes to Sarah…….Jewish votes now to go to McCain! WOW~!!

#18 Kempion on 09.17.08 at 10:14 am

The worst of the worst:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A

#19 justnotright on 09.17.08 at 10:14 am

“Biden was not invited because he is in the bag for Iran. He has taken a load of contributions from groups linked to the regime in Iran, and has gone so far as to tell Jewish officials in Israel that they needed to get used to the idea of Iran having nukes.”

So true.

#20 hillaryistheone on 09.17.08 at 10:14 am

This action by the Obama camp, just proves that they do NOT have the best interest of OUR country in their plan.

#21 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:15 am

TexasTigress

Well, was the honey worth it? Did you get any?

You could have been hurt very, very badly!

#22 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:15 am

Kempion1. Obama refuses to support protest of Iran at the UN.
I hadn’t heard anything about this please give details??? You know the MSM they don’t say much against their beloved.

#23 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 10:18 am

Good morning PUMAs

I’m waiting today to see Lynn De Rotschild giving her press conference why she’s endorsing McCain and will campaign for him. Rotschild is not just an ordinary democrat, she’s a member of the DNC Committee. When she said, “I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him,” rings a bell in my head, its the same feeling I have against NObama. What does De Rotschild know about NObama the public doesn’t know? Why she feels she cannot trust him? A committee member of DNC endorsing McCain? That should make ANYONE thinking of voting for NObama think twice voting for him. something stinks here like a rotten fish the DNC and Democratic Party is not telling the American people about NObama.

What we know about NObama is what we’ve dig so far through our own research, and what the media and NObama is saying about his self and we’ve connected the dot. De Rotschild have her info about NObama from WITHIN the DNC committee itself as member of the said committee.

NObama supporters are calling her now racist, these people have just shown their own brand of racism.

Don’t be afraid to express your support for McCain, De Rotschild rise above those threats as I’m sure she’ve received a lot of them from the DNC.

#24 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 10:18 am

Obama is a fraud and so are most of his dem backers. I am so angry that the MSM is not informing voters. I cannot express how disgusted I am of Obama and his lies.

#25 Kempion on 09.17.08 at 10:21 am

#22 slyt2

Tune into whichever news outlet you prefer. :)

#26 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:21 am

#23 Asian4Hillary they just said coming up soon (didn’t say her name but sure that’s who they are talking about).Now coming up soon could be 5mins to a half hour but wanted to give you the heads up

#27 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:22 am

24 kat in your hat Then go on FOX – fair and balanced!

#28 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:24 am

Asian4Hillary it’s on now fox

#29 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:24 am

1gypsy4mc – See , the hive was in an itty bitty crack in a tree , and I recalled that bears will sttick a twig in the crack to get the honey , and justbefore i realized that i was , in fact , not a bear , I plunged my twig into the crack only to anger the entire hive …. They came out slowly at first , causing me to think , “Oh shit” and I casually started jogging across the 3 acres back to the house ,and swatting at them . then I turned and saw a black , angry mob swarming after me . they started stinging me and I started ripping off articles of clothing while my twin girls were running away laughing their asses off at me . Finally i was down to covering my privates with my bandana and running like a Special Olympics atlete(if I were only that good) with body parts flying in all different directions all the way back to the house ! So , the short answer is NO I did not get any freakin honey – until the next day when my neighbor sent a jar home with the girls with a message saying ,” This way is safer ” ……

#30 tillerylakelady on 09.17.08 at 10:26 am

Pumas, look whos gonna be on ED’S Show, Plains Radio Network’s No Obama Talk show will have as its guest Steve Schmidt, John McCain’s senior advisor, on its radio program tonight (Wednesday) at 7 pm central. Steve will be taking our guestions for 1 hour.

They are also in the process of booking Gov Sarah Palin on our show too. If everything goes right, They will have her in the 2 weeks or so.

#31 Caracal Carrie on 09.17.08 at 10:26 am

My sister the Bee Charmer..LOL

#32 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 10:26 am

Well, I’m happy to say that I’m a Wal-Mart shopper, i.e., whenever I can get a ride.

McCain leads 58% to 38% among those who regularly shop at Wal-Mart while Obama leads 61% to 36% among those who don’t frequent the retail giant. Overall, Obama leads among those who earn less than $40,000 a year while McCain leads among those with higher earnings. Among white voters, Obama has the edge only among those who earn less than $20,000 a year and his advantage among those lower income white voters is just four percentage points (see crosstabs).

#33 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 10:27 am

Let;s see…both Obmbo and McCain did a joint appearance at the 9/11 remembrance ceremony, but Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton can not do that as a result of an invitation of the protest group? Why not?
In other words, only Hillary is allowed to protest in public the Iranian hate monger of Israel? Why?
A vice-presidential candidate can not accept an invitation from the protest group? Why not?
Hillary is not appearing because she does not want an occasion where she, the former female candidate for President is seen with the female candidate who by many accounts is drawing former supporters from the Democratic Party….This event became partisan when Hillary cancelled! I am not impressed by her move.

#34 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 10:27 am

What a great morning PUMAS! Could we have reached the Jewish community to turn towards McCain/Palin? Could we have recruited Lynn De Rotschild to endorse McCain/Palin?

Simple answer…NO! Little by little, secret PUMAS will arise and defeat the evil one! Thanks Hillary for helping!

NO WAY NO HOW OBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#35 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 10:27 am

#18 Kempion

HOLY CRAP!!! That is a creepy video. What if we all just stopped paying our taxes?

Did you notice the symbol in the video at 6:22. It is eerily like Obama’s symbol, don’t you think?

#36 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:28 am

#29 TexasTigress LMAO omg you made me spit my coffee out I was laughing so hard, not that you almost got stung but the explanation of special Olympics atlete and you running and screaming I can so picture it in my head.

#37 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:28 am

29 TexasTigress Oh – I have tears rolling down my eyes!!! I have got to meet you one of these days!!!

#38 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 10:30 am

Kempion
Or, perhaps, Hillary is showing her true colors: she wants to be the center of attention. Just a thought.
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Thank you. I can now delete that reason as a possiblity since your speculations/breaking news/ and other comments haven’t once been right in the time you landed here.

#39 mimi1020 on 09.17.08 at 10:31 am

#320 Hillgirl

NICEEEEEE, Thanks for the link.

About HRC not going to the Iran Protest. There could be a zillion reasons why she is not going…..We don’t know. I am sure we will find out

#40 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 10:33 am

Obama raises 9 million last night with Barbara Streisand in Beverly Hills.

Tough times HUH?

#41 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:34 am

Gypsy and sly – you have twisted senses of humor ! lol

#42 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 10:35 am

Kat–
It makes me sick that there are so many people out there struggling and losing their homes, and Oboy is out there raising money like that with the rich and famous. Disgusting. That money could be put to good use, but no, they have to support this disgusting fraud of a candidate instead.

#43 Caracal Carrie on 09.17.08 at 10:36 am

LOL Texas count me with them cause I still crack up on that story!

#44 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 10:36 am

Next time Obama complains about the economy, just imagine him with celebrities in Beverly Hills, like last night, and how they were laughing it up, spending $30,000 on a meal and a Barbara Streisand song.

PHONIES.

Like these people give a crap about the economy.

#45 Jenny on 09.17.08 at 10:37 am

I’ve been lurking for sometime and really admire what PUMAs are doing. Thank YOU. I saw this today and wanted to share it. Obama says that Capitalism is dead and he solution is him. This is the scariest thing I’ve seen so far. Is he the Manchurian Candidate?

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

#46 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:37 am

41 TexasTigress hey, you were the one with the honey stick!!

Beckle says she isn’t going to bring in votes – P had 7,000 people in Ohio yesterday!!!

#47 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:37 am

Carrie – i can never trust you when i don’t have power again !!!! lol

#48 Caracal Carrie on 09.17.08 at 10:38 am

Oh come on I would so have told that story anyway!

#49 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 10:39 am

What a great morning PUMAS! Could we have reached the Jewish community to turn towards McCain/Palin? Could we have recruited Lynn De Rotschild to endorse McCain/Palin?

Simple answer…NO! Little by little, secret PUMAS will arise and defeat the evil one! Thanks Hillary for helping!

NO WAY NO HOW OBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

Won’t give to see the Hillary & Bill video…I taped them and the e-mail does not say it is to “pay down the debt” like the ones in the past. NO $$$ for *61 except PUMA dollars! :)

#50 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:40 am

DancesWithPumas I think Hillary is taking a risk – one that she has to. She cannot afford to lose her base by appearing either for or against Palin. Either way, the media would tear her up. IMHO.

#51 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:40 am

46 TexasTigress hey your twins are worse they stood right there and laughed lol and i said i wasn’t laughing at the almost getting stung part.. man now I have to go to the bathroom.

#52 mick on 09.17.08 at 10:41 am

#42 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 10:35 am

Yep, poor guy, the timing for this event just sucked for Obie. (snort)

#53 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 10:41 am

TexasTigress…too funny! :) Have to go get another cup of coffee!

#54 Headclunker on 09.17.08 at 10:41 am

How Can a Traitor Swiftboat?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?&

What about the Logan Act?

McCain issued a challenge to BO to answer these charges. What does his BIG MOUTH have to say?

#55 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:42 am

carrie, at least you didn’t tell them about when my nephew was being born and they gave us gowns to go back for the birth and i ripped off my clothes and shoes and went running down the hall into the delivery room with my bare ass hanging out !!! Why do all of my stories end with me naked ?? !!!

#56 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am

How many here can afford a $28,500.00 dinner plate? That amount is at least ONE YEAR budget for a family of 5. NObama can be President for the elite people, they have so much money coming out of their ears they’re throwing it around.

I want a President for the common people, one I can relate to, one who knows shopping in Walmart is not something to be ashame about but makes sense to stretch a dollar.

I bet they’re eating arugula last night. They must be eating steak or lobster made of gold, caviar which pops in their mouth – what freaking special about caviar, IT IS A GODDAMN FISH EGGS GOOD ONLY FOR BAITS!

#57 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am

Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap. Good for you Hillary smart move.

#58 Caracal Carrie on 09.17.08 at 10:44 am

LOL Omg Remember the nurse said “Um, aren’t you missing something??”

#59 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:45 am

Can someone explain to me please something I must have missed. Why do this movie to show on Innaugral day when it could help the cause showing the illegal moves of Obama before election?
I know this must have been explained and I feel lame not seeing it .I just think it would be of use before?? Sorry will wait the reason.

#60 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 10:46 am

Hillary doesn’t care if the media tear her up, she’s not running for President in general election. :lol:

#61 Kempion on 09.17.08 at 10:46 am

#38 DancesWithPumas

Do as you see fit. You have been nothing short of cranky and unhospitable toward me since my arrival here.

If you had bothered yourself to read my follow-ups, then you would be aware that I corrected myself when necessary. To say ALL I have stated has been wrong is an extremist view.

I come here and post mostly hopeful (if not helpful) comments). For example, this morning I tried to convey to Murphy not to take the death threats too seriously (previous thread). If such things are not welcome, please let me know.

My comment about the POSSIBLE reasoning behind Hillary refusing to show up to protest Iran’s nuclear aims alludes to a greater question: What’s more important here – supporting Hillary or defending voter rights from corruption? however you choose to look at it, Hillary has chosen to put party before country – the Obama party vs protesting Iran.

You don’t have to like me. Frankly, I don’t care for personalities like yours. You have sniped at me repeatedly. There are much better ways to make your objections known to me than posting such comments HERE.

I digress… and I’m out.

#62 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:46 am

Obama for the working people?? Ca. closed raiser like the one he made fun of Pa working people??

#63 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 10:46 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC-NhJnl7YA&feature=related

hillary’s stance on Iran
why cant our leaders just stand together one time and show the world we will defend our friends, and they want to be our friends cant they make any kind of concessions as they ask us to do over and over again, time after time

#64 Headclunker on 09.17.08 at 10:47 am

MURPHY!

Where is Howard’s Lipstick?

#65 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:48 am

Texas – we need to find out more about your “natural” instincts here!!

#66 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 10:48 am

Hey, Obama has the perfect opportunity to meet with the infamous Iranian leader right there in New York City, why not go, not to protest but just meet the man he wants to sit down and talk to, ah America, the land that allows other leaders to come here while America has to meet their leaders in other countries, totally amazing to me.

#67 DeepSouth on 09.17.08 at 10:49 am

I’m thinking Hillary had her people tell the Oblahblah campaign bots that this wouldn’t reflect well so that they would make the decision to pull her out.

This accomplishes 2 things for Hillary:

1. She can put the blame on him for cancelling the appearance

2. Obama suffers by losing even more of the Jewish vote

Bill and Hill despise this disgusting excuse of an “American”. I think this move was to hurt him.

Guess we’ll see how it plays out.

#68 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 10:49 am

OBAMA’s PANIC
by Michael Gerson, Washington Post

Fave quote: “…as a presidential candidate, Obama has run his campaign with all the constancy of a skittish sailboat on an erratic ocean.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/16/AR2008091602876.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

#69 mick on 09.17.08 at 10:50 am

#55 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am

Well, I ate duck gumbo for dinner last night, and I bet it was better than their $28,500 dinner. Plus, it was free, (my dad made it). Lol

Hmm, wonder if Oboy is kicking himself for not taking federal campaign financing?

#70 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 10:50 am

#62sistermoon3: It appears not.

#71 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:51 am

#60 Kempion don’t go some of us enjoy reading what you have to say

#72 Notyoursweetie on 09.17.08 at 10:51 am

Meanwhile, NYR (and Obama) are still wondering “What do women want” while McCain gets it
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/ny-times-obama-wonder-what-do-women-want-hint-respect/

#73 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 10:52 am

jane-pa

I am wondering about it too. IF PUMAPAC is contributing money making this film, and that money is coming from members of this organization, why they’re showing the said film during inauguration instead of BEFORE general election?

The film do NOT have an impact to enlighten voters about the truth after November 4. If the person doing this documentary independently, why is it PUMAPAC is contributing money to produce this film? IF our organization contributes money, the said film MUST be release to the public BEFORE November 4.

Murphy, would you please answer this.

Thank you.

#74 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 10:52 am

#55 Aisian4Hillary
I bet they’re eating arugula last night. They must be eating steak or lobster made of gold, caviar which pops in their mouth – what freaking special about caviar, IT IS A GODDAMN FISH EGGS GOOD ONLY FOR BAITS!
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You crack me up! They should all go for the honey by bear method!!! lol Give em a stick and hey stop going to the movies…I am cancelling netflix too!
;-)

#75 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 10:53 am

TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:24 am
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This is not the Winnie the Pooh I thought I knew…..

#76 michelle47 on 09.17.08 at 10:54 am

Murphy

Just wanted to let you know that there is a story about the puma movement in our local Toledo city paper.
A repoter that traveled to Denver for the convention was talking about the goings on there and reported about the puma’s at the msnbc tent. It was a pretty decent article, so if our little city paper is reporting on it, then other little city papers may be telling the story also.

The major paper here is the Toledo blade, city paper is an independent paper based out of downtown toledo.

#77 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 10:54 am

#56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am

Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap.
See this is what doesn’t make sense to me what you just said how and why would she attack her when this has nothing to do with the election and it is about standing up for what is happening Iran and a protest.

Ok Texas Tigress you need to stop now or I am gonna have to keep a towel next to me….lmao

#78 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 10:54 am

OK – Back to Dean-0 We have some really good writers here. Why can’t we do the same thing that Huff-Puff does, and send a really good article to:

American Thinker
Canada Free Press
Real Clear Politics

RCP is always printing crap from sleaze writers, let’s give them something to run with!! We just need to back it up with FACTS!! If we can get one article printed, then maybe we can get more. Even if it is to direct them to the TRUTH!!

#79 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 10:57 am

The amount of money needed or imagined to run for public office is one of the ongoing reasons why reform is needed in Congress re financing campaigns. And who …what candidate is interested in doing that? Why is our country ruled by millionaires? Why are we?
Because we, increasingly, have become the latter day peons of so called globalization, which is another word for a return to unbridled greed at the expense of country after country…certainly, this country included.
If this cannot be stopped or curtailed, our children and grandchildren will return to the sweat shops of old, just as other countries have. We are fast on our way to that horror. Obimbo is the yesman who will finish this off.

#80 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 10:59 am

#60 Kempion…before you bolt consider this. Not everyone agrees with everyone else on the blog. I happen to enjoy your posts. I am sure others do as well. This thing with Hillary. Personally, I think she made a huge mistake. Others may see it as a brilliant politcal move. Who is right ? You see my point.

Speak your voice.

#81 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 10:59 am

GYPSY:
Fox just showed the COUGAR in a heart, by mistake! IT WAS ABSOLUTELY GREAT. BUT THERE IS A STORY COMING \UP.

#82 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 11:00 am

#75 michelle47 are you talking about the blade??

#83 SARTOM on 09.17.08 at 11:00 am

What a scam. I understand that besides the $28,500, there was an extra fee for hearing Barbra sing a song!

Yes, I ate leftovers last night.

Still wondering if the Obama campaign approved Hillary’s cancellation of the Jewish community rally?

#84 mick on 09.17.08 at 11:00 am

#56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am

“Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap. Good for you Hillary smart move.”

Huh? Why would she have to attack her? If I’m not mistaken, the event has always been a non-partisan event. I don’t think they were going to be on stage together. They were both scheduled to speak about a very inportant issue that effects ALL Americans, not just democrats.

I don’t see how not going is “taking the high road” and more importantly, I don’t see the jewish community seeing it that way either.

#85 outragedinmaryland on 09.17.08 at 11:01 am

#53 Headclunker

Why isn’t there an investigation into this story or more coverage by the MSM? Last night I was listening to conservative talk radio (not easy for me – a lifelong Dem) but they brought up a good point. Following the 1980 hostage crisis, there was an investigation into whether the Republicans interfered with that situation, asking Iran to delay the hostages’ release until after the election to make Carter look bad. There was no evidence, but the investigation went forward just because of the seriousness of the charge. Now, in the current situation, not only is the charge just as serious, but O even admitted to the story’s accuracy!!! This needs to be investigated!!!

On another note, I love Hillary. As a Jew though, I am disappointed in the fact that she will not be attending this rally. I feel like I need to hear directly from her as to whether it is true she will not attend and why.

#86 murphy on 09.17.08 at 11:01 am

UPDATE: Riverdaughter reminds me of Anglachel’s article from late last night that is a MUST read. Basically, Anglachel is explaining in far more detail and with more background evidence what I was saying last month:

The DONC hates their base. Hates, hates, hates us. Wishes we would all just go under a rock and pretend we don’t exist (except on Election Day when they try to shame and goad us into going to the polls for them). I argued then that the RNC is the exact opposite. They LOVE thei r base. Love, love, love them. From the hillbillies to the oil billionaires; the church ladies to the Carly Fiorina’s, the Republicans get all giddy and chest-thumpin’ PROUD when they’re all in the same room together. THAT’S WHY THEY WIN AND WE ALMOST ALWAYS LOSE. Riverdaughter is also a Must Read this morning.

#87 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 11:01 am

OPPS nevermind didn’t see the bottom part I don’t get that paper can I see it online?

#88 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 11:02 am

80 lilibet I have to hay, so will probably miss it! Darn. Please post the info, OK?

#89 one4all on 09.17.08 at 11:02 am

Hollywood, Thugs, Racists and Sexists = Obama

What a Base! With Hollywood’s money, Chicago-style Politics, Race cards and Palin trashers, Democrats have hit all time lows. Who would have dreamed that the Democratic Party we were so loyal to in the past could get so ugly? I continue to be amazed yet so disappointed..
Murphy,Maryland,Dances,Antifish and All Fellow Pumas
STAND STRONG! ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Obama’s fundraisers would better serve paying down the National Debt!

#90 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:03 am

#80CTKEY: I concur. Speak your voice as all of us do and have done. Disagreement does not have to end with discord: discourse is a better end.

#91 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 11:03 am

#60 Kempion Don’t know if you still on. Did not read the post where you told Murphy to not take death threats seriously…you are kidding aren’t you!?!?!

A death threat is a crime that needs to be reported and the authorities need to make the call. Too many bots have warned of “race” riots if *61 losses. Who are they kidding…they will riot even if he wins!

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#92 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:04 am

Asian, ya exactly. It was $28,500 per person, and an extra $2,500 for the show. $31,000 STINKING dollars in one night. A person’s entire year’s salary.

#93 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 11:04 am

At first look, I am really disappointed that Hillary has pulled of her speaking engagement, but when I think about it, I have to agree with Outragedinmaryland that I want to hear directly from Hillary why she made this choice.

#94 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:04 am

My #90 post is intended for Kempion, via CTKEY comment in #80.

#95 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 11:05 am

#56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am ,
Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap. Good for you Hillary smart move.
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Yes Jane this is the reason……this is a PRO HILLARY site, she is the reason I and I hope we all are here.
I love that woman and let us give her the benefit of the doubt, she is between a rock and a hard place these days and we have to pull up our big girl pantsuits and SUPPORT HER! NO MATTER WHAT!! SHE WILL BE BACK

#96 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 11:05 am

#22/25 SLY, YOU CERTAINLY NAMED YOURSELF WELL!

#97 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 11:06 am

Godzilla,
I liked (really liked) your letter to the pollsters about needing to factor in the PUMA effect.

I have to work today so when you get your letter done please post it on this page several times so I can find it quickly & send it out at lunch, thanks & great job.

#98 murphy on 09.17.08 at 11:06 am

TexasTigress #29,

That is the FUNNIEST story I have heard in a LONG time!

But very glad you were not injured. then it wouldnt be a funny story.

But MAN! you tell a good story!

#99 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 11:07 am

Murphy :)

#100 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:08 am

Like Obama gives a crap about the damn economy, getting his Oblow followers to have to worry about supporting his stupid campaign.

If Obama ever gave a crap about people, he would have taken the public campaign money like he promised he would, but NOOOO, he has to keep jacking his supporter’s wallets. His dumb faithful followers skip meals to support his ass and he’s out with the richies, laughing it up with Barbara Streisand. Effing phoney.

UGH, I cannot stand him.

#101 antifish on 09.17.08 at 11:09 am

Good Morning Pumas,

I see many here agree with me that Hillary pulling out of the rally is a very bad idea. It seems to be motivated by the same partisan politics that have caused a veritable stalemate in Congress while our country falls down around our ears.

I encourage you to do as I did and voice your displeasure by going to Senator Clinton’s site and sending her an email. You can further demand that she explain her decision publicly.

#102 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 11:09 am

#92 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:04 am

We’ve just seen ELITICISM of NOBAMA right out in the OPEN. 95% of US population cannot afford NObama’s LUXURY! Are these people sending their hard earn money to NObama campaign are as rich as the people NObama rub elbows in Hollywood? I bet he was telling those people last night while eating their freaking outlandish meal people in small town America are stupid, bitter and clinging to their guns and religion. If he talk about us behind our backs in San Francisco during a private fundraising; NOTHING will stop him to do the same last night!

#103 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 11:09 am

Texas,

Maybe next time you should at least try to disguise yourself as a rain cloud before stealing the honey. At least that is what Winnie the Pooh did.

Oh yeah, it didn’t work out so well for him either. He ended up hiding in a mud puddle after being chased by the bees. LOL.

#104 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 11:10 am

TexasTigress You are now unofficially named: She who runs with Honey Stick……. :lol: :lol:

#105 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 11:11 am

Hey! Did ya’ll see this article. There’s a picture of Hill marchers in Denver with it – any Pumas in there? ;)

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Obama-Will-Face-a-Tough-Time-Keeping-Clinton-Voters-In-The-Face-of-Palin-Power/Article/200809315100627

Excerpt:
‘ “24% of those who backed Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary now support John McCain, up from 14% on August 26.”

This statistic, buried deep within Quinnipiac University polling out of Florida is a reversal of the trend that we’ve been seeing all summer.

So what’s going on here?’

#106 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:11 am

antifish:

It is good she is not going! I cannot stand her lying to jews and telling that Obama is the man to vote for.

Also, with her gone, and Palin in, it could help with the jew vote for McCain.

Any public event Hillary cancels is good! One less opportunity to yap about Obama.

#107 murphy on 09.17.08 at 11:12 am

headclunker #64, I dont know. I think dwp has it!

#108 greenfun on 09.17.08 at 11:12 am

Donna Brazille in a Politico article.

She said that at times “Obama’s voice is strong and articulate, but people don’t feel attached to him, and they have got to feel attached to him. That would answer some racial aspects that simmer below the radar and sometimes percolate over the top.”

“He has had some moments where he seems unsure of his own voice,” Brazile said, “but I still think he can pull this off.”

And if he doesn’t?

“If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose,” she said. “The country just wasn’t ready.”

Hey Donna, do you think it’s possible the country feels BO isn’t ready? If BO loses- it’s because the dem leadership and BO lost it. I guess Donna believes BO needn’t accept any responsibility for a loss in Nov.
She is an unbelievable jack@ss.

#109 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:13 am

Besides, it would be a spectacle, and ruin the whole point of the cause for the day which is to protest.

Also, Hillary doesn’t want the “smiling Palin/ Hillary shaking hands” photo all over the news.

#110 mspecht on 09.17.08 at 11:13 am

hey murphy,,I think it’s a great idea you have for meeting up nov 4th..I live in allentown pa & would be more then happy to open my home up to the puma’s,,but here r somethings I think we need to think about..I don’t know how many puma’s there r,,but I think we need to spread out across the country,swing states for sure..I know where I am some may be to scared to even go into polling places if they see a bunch of obots standing outside…I think we need to be in groups in some of these area so that all people feel safe when going to vote…what do you’s think???

#111 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:15 am

#86Murphy: True! ..moreover ..they love anybody who is not a part of their base but who for whatever pragmatic or other reasons becomes a temporary part as in this election cycle…This is the essence of politics, the ability to gather and direct any and every possible support for as long as it takes to win. That used to be the purview of the Democrats in the “old days”…

#112 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 11:15 am

Whoopssssssssss there it is!

Matthews and Olbermann might just start shopping for a job soon.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashtwn.htm

#113 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 11:16 am

Ok , Ok , While I love to be the “Butt ” of a good joke ( I really do) I feel guilty for not being focused …. :) I am going to prowl all of our media contacts with the Logan act stuff again – if anyone comes up with something else for me to do – holler ! :)
“She who runs with Honey stick ” roflmao !!!

#114 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 11:17 am

I have question for anyone who would know. Usually I send links of good articles to friends and family, but it is much easier to get them to read the article if I send the whole thing and not just the link. Is that a legal thing to do if I make sure that the author’s name is there and the name of the website, or do I have to ask the author’s permission?

#115 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 11:22 am

I dont know the inner workings of the Dem. party especially now. I dont trust Obama and was thinking he set Hillary up somehow. We think of this as a protest that should be but I think he only thinks of number 1 and politically. I may be wrong and was museing outload for input from you all. Thanks and wish I had the ans to it all. I just dont trust BO at all on anything.That is the one thing I am sure of

#116 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 11:22 am

#96 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 11:05 am

#22/25 SLY, YOU CERTAINLY NAMED YOURSELF WELL!

lilibet you lost me on that comment.

#117 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 11:22 am

I believe that we need to write a letter to Barbra Streisand and give her the facts on her chosen one! Just read her remarks, no wonder she never sang the whole songs last night…she is on kool-aid!

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/index.php?page=statements&n_id=828

#118 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 11:23 am

#101 antifish on 09.17.08 at 11:09 am

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You are right Antifish. I worked my tail off for this women, she was the BEST canidate the dems have put forth in such a long time and would have been the BEST POTUS the world has seen for quite a while. But seriously, this move shocked me. I nearly fell out of my chair this morning when I first heard the report. Yes it is clearly partisan posturing, yes it was not a very good move for her politically at all. For one thing, she is very popular among the Jewish constituency, and this will put a major dent in that. I cannot imagine why she would do something like this. It’s not an astute political move, NOT Hillary Clinton at all.

I agree, send her a note now Pumas! Let her hear about it. She’s listened to us before, she needs to listen now as well.

#119 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 11:24 am

Kempion on 09.17.08 at 10:08 am Or, perhaps, Hillary is showing her true colors: she wants to be the center of attention. Just a thought.

The Jewish-American League (or whatever their name is) has come out and said they will not support Obama.
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Good Morning Pumas.
The Jewish American Leaque will not support Obama, bravo for them, take that Barbara Striesand listen more closely to your elders and intellectuals!

#120 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:25 am

TexasTigress: Some kind of beegod was watching over you! These wild bee hives can be huge…Listen to your “mama”, “GURL” !!! Given her comment to you, I see where some of your humor comes from!

#121 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 11:30 am

NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:25 am TexasTigress: Some kind of beegod was watching over you!
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You think the beegod protected her beehind?

#122 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 11:30 am

Help

Pumas, I’m looking for that video about caucus fraud that was out a while back. Not our PAC ‘Audacity of Democracy’ video – there was nother one out as well. I think it was in four parts. Was pretty good. I’m sending a copy of the AOD video clips and would like to inlcude that other one also, to my sister who’s clearly drunk the Kool-Aid and keeps trying to get me to drink as well. BWAAAAAHAAAAA! not going to happen!

Can someone direct me to that other video? Thanks!

#123 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 11:31 am

#29 TexasTigress ,

ROFLMAO :lol: You are too funny. I do hope that you are alright though.

#124 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:32 am

#121Grizzly: Oh yes, Grizzly…no doubt about that one!
(Your comment made me laugh outloud!, as I also did with Texas Tigress’s story!)

#125 annabelle on 09.17.08 at 11:32 am

Oh man, I’m tempted to give them some money so they can run with that ad. It will hurt, hurt, hurt them, I say, Not John McCain. Unlike Democrats, who grumbled and looked away as Kerry was being smeared for his service, Republicans will rally and make a bit freaking stink about this (as well they should, the man was POW AFTER ALL. Sheesh!). This will backfire. And I almost want to help them fall off that cliff. But I can’t. Too broke, and I don’t play that way. Thanks for the tip!

#126 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 11:34 am

95 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 11:05 am #56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am ,
she is between a rock and a hard place these days and we have to pull up our big girl pantsuits and SUPPORT HER! NO MATTER WHAT!! SHE WILL BE BACK
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I agree with both of your statements, I will always back Hillary and her decisions because she can see the underpinning of any political situation and adjusts to the appropiate conduct…

#127 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:38 am

#126TerryDo: I support Hillary Clinton. I do not support her support of Obama. I do not think it appropriate at all.
I understand this is not a new comment here and I do not want it to be a point of contention, etc. I just wanted to share with you and others my view, as the occasion of the cancellation has brought up the what and why is she doing this issue, again here. So we comment! And that is good, I think, regardless of conclusions.

#128 murphy on 09.17.08 at 11:38 am

Anyone spending anytime over at the BloggerBoiz? Dont know how you do it, but if so, what’s the mood in Obama Nation?

#129 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 11:39 am

Jane PA:

I agree with you. I find it very difficult to be excited about the tardy release of the movie. I imagine there must be a good reason or reasons.

#130 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 11:40 am

The boys from Red State now advising Ralph Nader?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYKyts6EdSw

#131 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:40 am

Sarah palin will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight.

#132 PumaPal on 09.17.08 at 11:43 am

I surprised to see the Puma sign … “Puma with a wink inside the heart” on Fox. What was that about? The anchors seemed little surprsied to see it on the screen. But pleased. (Or is that my projection?)

#133 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:43 am

September 17, 2008
Obama’s Panic
By Michael Gerson

“…Obama’s campaign is rootless, reactive and panicky. At every stage since securing the nomination, it has seemed fearful of missteps and unsure of its own organizing principle.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/obamas_panic.html

#134 PumaPal on 09.17.08 at 11:44 am

Oops 132 “surprised” I am a terrible typist.

#135 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 11:45 am

#110 mspecht on 09.17.08 at 11:13 am

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Wonderful idea! Group Puma voting on Nov. 4. There is definitely safety in numbers, and it would make it less potentially intimidating if you’re in one of those areas, to go to the polls that way.

In my small town here in Central PA, I really do not need to worry about that – I’m in the heart of Repug country. I believe there are probably 5 Dems in our rural county. Reason I know that is because when Big Dawg Clinton came to visit us during the primaries, all 5 of us from our county there in line together taking stock of our situation! :lol: Once inside I ended up chatting with a true blue repug who had utmost respect for Bill’s statesmanship abilities, had switched to dem to vote for Hillary, and stated emphatically that if John McCain did not win the election, he would feel quite content with Hillary being the POTUS, but that he’d never vote for Oblahblah. I asked him point blank if he was one of those El Rushbo Operation Chaos voters, he said no way. He just trusted the Clinton’s more then he’d ever trust Oblahblah, and that was his strategy by switching – if not McCain then NObama! Gotta love it.

#136 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 11:48 am

#132 PumaPal

Saw the winking PUMA on Fox — they actually used it to introduce a story about two older women who were suing a snotty reality TV show after they were caught up in a hidden-camera episode making fun of older women who intentionally seek out younger men (aka: cougars).

Murphy should consider a copyright infringement lawsuit — LOL!

#137 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 11:49 am

#131 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:40 am

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I’m sure Shawn Hannity will be lobbing soft balls, but that’s ok I guess. Especially after what ABC and Charlie Gibson did to her during their interview. Blatantly editing out half her answers to make her look stupid. No way, now how, no trust the media!!!!

#138 BarbNOBO on 09.17.08 at 11:50 am

I went to a victory rally in Vienna, OH yesterday for McCain-Palin. The President of the AFL-CIO who was a Hillary supporter, endorsed McCain. I spoke to many people there that were for Hillary and now are for McCain. I passed out a few Puma business cards…many people were interested. BO is really losing ground…people were saying they just don’t trust him! We need to continue spreading our message!!

#139 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 11:50 am

Nobamadem-
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

#140 PumaPal on 09.17.08 at 11:52 am

I was watching FOX last night (yeah, I know) and saw Greta’s interview with Todd Palin. Seemed like a good guy. More interesting was a very short interview with the creator of a documentary about outstanding women across the world. It was done some months ago. The man seemed to be French. Said Palin was smart, focused, calm, very nice and exactly the same off-camera as she was on camera. He liked her a lot. For what it’s worth.

#141 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:53 am

#137 NObamaDem:

Ya, Hannity will be softer on her, but he will ask serious questions as well.

It’s a two part interview, tonight and tomorrow.

#142 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 11:54 am

Good morning Pumas,
Has anyone seen this article ?

http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Interesting!
I don’t knnow what to think about Hillary!

#143 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 11:54 am

carrie -please post the link to the puma facts site so I can fav. it on this laptop and so NObamadem can use it. Thanks

#144 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 11:56 am

in a way this comment by barbara S. is a compliment of just how powerful the selection of Palin was.
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“John McCain has served this country. No one in this election is denying him that. But his selection of Governor Palin has demonstrated that he is willing to put his desperation to win this election above the welfare of the American people”

#145 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 11:57 am

How do you get email addresses to be red! I copied
and pasted.

#146 Beca4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 11:57 am

Okay, two big news in CNN:

Hillary cancelling an event where Sarah Palin will be attending! Ah?

Big Hillraiser from DC backing and endorsing McCain, what a big surprise!! I love it! :)

#147 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:57 am

Aw, some guy who owns a small zoo swam in the TX flood waters with a lion and they wound up sleeping in a church. Other people slept in the church with the lion.

(All the animals of the zoo are now accounted for, no more roaming tiger.)

#148 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 11:58 am

Did anyone see my post #114 above:

I have question for anyone who would know. Usually I send links of good articles to friends and family, but it is much easier to get them to read the article if I send the whole thing and not just the link. Is that a legal thing to do if I make sure that the author’s name is there and the name of the website, or do I have to ask the author’s permission?

Does anyone have an answer? Murphy?

#149 mick on 09.17.08 at 11:58 am

#117 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 11:22

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/index.php?page=statements&n_id=828

In spite of what Babs and others think, Sarah Palin was not put on the ticket to court liberal Democrat women.

Palin was put on the ticket to accomplish two things:

1. To firm up and energize McCain’s support with 2 very important parts of the Republican base–the Evangelical Christians and the Pro-Life community.

The Evangelicals were not comfortable with Romney at all, a Romney VP nod would not have sent Evangelicals to the Obama ticket (because that’s not how voters behave) but instead would have made Evangelicals reluctant McCain supporters. Reluctant supporters don’t always make it to the polls. If the weather is bad, the baby is sick, or they get ‘busy’ they don’t vote. It’s not intentional behavior, but it’s what happens.

The Pro-Life wing of the GOP has grave concerns about McCain and embryonic stem cell testing, as well as his choice of potential Supreme Court judges. They are worried that McCain will put up one good nominee, who will get shot down by the Democrat-controlled Senate, and then McCain will nominate someone who can be confirmed, rather than continuing to force the Senate to reject excellent candidates.

Palin’s nomination gives the Pro-Life community the feeling that there will be someone with strong Pro-Life convictions whispering in McCain’s ear and helping to give him some backbone where those judicial nominations are concerned.

2. Excitement. If McCain hoped to step on Obama’s thunder, he had to name a running mate who would get people talking and just another white guy wasn’t going to do that.

McCain needed to secure his base and excite … he did both with a Palin pick. IF he gets some female democrat votes, … well, that’s icing on the cake. :-)

Just my 1/2 cent.

#150 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:59 am

@147, can you imagine that situation? Must have felt so surreal, like the end of the world. Homes totally disappearing. awful. swimming with lions…christ.

#151 mspecht on 09.17.08 at 12:00 pm

Nobama,,I was thinking that in some of these areas if we could have some puma’s & repubs standing outside of some of these places so that the elderly and others fealt safe to go in and out of polling places…we need to put people in the places that need it most!

#152 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 12:04 pm

While it is certainly true that there are some persons here in agreement that it was a bad idea for Hillary to bow out from speaking, there are many more of us that trust Hillary to do the right thing and will continue our unabashed support or her. It occurred to me that perhaps Hillary WANTED TO GIVE SARAH ALL THE ATTENTION.

#153 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 12:04 pm

Well, I think the Pumas have gotten the word out about the polls. The San Antonio office said they have had “many democrat and Independent folks” offering to help at the polls and with data!! They are not turning anyone away!! They need help with data entry bad!!

#154 ChristineRI on 09.17.08 at 12:05 pm

A request for a donation from the Democratic Party was preceded this morning by my listening to WTKK. My reply:

‘This is where Obama states that the American people are basically decent, just confused by listening to the ‘wrong’ radio stations and watching the ‘wrong’ television channels. And he will change all that for us, because only he can end our confusion.
I, for one, do not need or want someone else deciding which radio station to listen to and which television channel to watch.
And the fact that he refers to the American people as ‘THEY’ should make anyone wonder, who is HE?

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3386492

#155 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 12:06 pm

#149 Mick

BINGO!

#156 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 12:06 pm

148 KarlaforHillary Once it’s posted online , it is not protected . it’s nice that you give the authors credit though . :)

#157 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 12:06 pm

127 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:38 am
#126TerryDo: I support Hillary Clinton. I do not support her support of Obama. I do not think it appropriate at all.
I understand this is not a new comment here and I do not want it to be a point of contention, etc.
I would concur with your statement that “I do not support her support of Obama”
However, unless one knows and understands why Hillary is supporting Obama then and only then can one state whether it is appropriate or non-appropriate.
That is just my humble opinion, of course.

#158 mimi1020 on 09.17.08 at 12:08 pm

I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT HILLARY, SHE IS MY NUMBER 1! No matter what she does in THIS disgusting display of an election.

She earned my support in 2008 and I am sure she will EARN it in 2012.

MCCAIN/PALIN 08

#159 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:10 pm

122 NObamaDem
There are several videos related to caucus fraud in the http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
Click on the Voter and Caucus Fraud link

#160 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:10 pm

Karla, not only is it perfectly legal, the original sources are jumping for joy when you spread their messages around the internet.

Dont worry a pin.

In fact, you should send them a bill for your publicity work,
;-)

#161 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:11 pm

Barbnobo,

In the trenches! you go girl!

So, did you hear McCain openly mocking Obama for his double-talk and flip-flopping?

#162 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 12:12 pm

From FOX: “Clinton bails on U.N. rally against Ahmadinejad after learning organizers invited GOP veep pick Sarah Palin.”

I can see where Ms. Clinton might have thought her and Palin together would have overshadowed the event. That said, Ms. Clinton should have honored her commitment.

#163 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 12:12 pm

KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 11:58 am Did anyone see my post #114 above:

I have question for anyone who would know. Usually I send links of good articles to friends and family, but it is much easier to get them to read the article if I send the whole thing and not just the link. Is that a legal thing to do if I make sure that the author’s name is there and the name of the website, or do I have to ask the author’s permission?

Does anyone have an answer? Murphy?
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KarlaforHillary, yes you can copy and paste a complete article and email it to friends or family, normally you make sure the author’s name is included, one to respect their work and two, it helps your recipients to further research that person’s work further if they so desire…

#164 tillerylakelady on 09.17.08 at 12:12 pm

Are we gonna get a prowl today? Did I miss one for yesterday? I mean other than Individual Prowls.

#165 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:15 pm

Just sent the Prowl to the Presses.

Should be in your inboxes shortly!

#166 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 12:16 pm

#149 mick Agree but this is what I had an issue with Barbra S., she needs a PUMA education on her chosen one!

“I believe John McCain chose Gov. Palin because he truly believes that women who supported Hillary—an experienced, brilliant, life-long public servant–would vote for him because his Vice President has two x chromosomes. McCain’s selection of Governor Palin is a transparent and irresponsible decision all in the name of trying to win this election.” and

“This calculated, cynical ploy to pull away a small percentage of Hillary’s women voters from Barack Obama will not work. We are not that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

#167 sandtraps on 09.17.08 at 12:16 pm

Please vote— I know never are prue but I am not over the Obama primary slim http://www.politico.com/index.html Fair and square
Which candidate do you think has been running the more honorable campaign?

John McCain

Barack Obama

#168 A-Will on 09.17.08 at 12:16 pm

#152 – lilibet – I was thinking the same thing. Hillary also knows that if she is there with Palin, the media focus will be on the two women being together at the same venue, not on the event itself. Perhaps she is just trying to bring the focus back to the event??? Food for thought. IMHO.

#169 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 12:16 pm

Thanks Texas, Murphy and Terrydo. I will sent out articles without worry.

#170 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 12:19 pm

The Democratic Party is UNFIT even to be majority in Congress. Fact of the matter is, the mind boggling collapse of Wallstreet has MORE to do with Democratic lead Congress than Bush itself. McCain supported a proposal in 2005 to oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; what the democrats in the senate had done? KILLED IT!

And now the Democrats are busy LYING to the American “don’t blame us.” The crash of our housing has MORE to do with the Democratic Party than the GOP. We all have to face the truth instead of acting blind what the Democrats in Congress are doing. Being hoodwinked by party loyalty is not the way to live.

#171 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 12:19 pm

#167 sandtraps

Wow, you can tell the Obamabots are out. We need more people to take the poll:

John McCain 26 %
Barack Obama 74 %

#172 SparkForHill on 09.17.08 at 12:19 pm

TOP Clinton Fundraiser backing McCain

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20080917/McCain.Clinton.Backer/

#173 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:21 pm

Politico poll:

Fair and square
Which candidate do you think has been running the more honorable campaign?
John McCain 26 %
Barack Obama 74 %

Results are based off 4305 votes

#174 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 12:21 pm

Good news!!!!!!

http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/17/the-big-ticket-pumas-start-defecting/

#175 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:22 pm

I voted. it’s easy and fun:

http://www.politico.com/index.html

#176 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 12:23 pm

SLY:
I was referring to the comment you made, as it was something that I have resisted making for a long time. I just did not to include names. Because of the diversity of Pumas there are many who enjoy posts that others may find offensive, and I do try to respect the opinions of all.

#177 BarbNOBO on 09.17.08 at 12:26 pm

Murphy….It was great to hear McCain mocking BO and Barbara S! I could not believe how many people said that they were formerly for Hillary…The area we were in is predominately democratic and there were at least 5,000 people there.

#178 mick on 09.17.08 at 12:26 pm

166 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 12:16 pm #149

Oh I agree, Babs definitely needs a reality check about Obie.

#179 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:26 pm

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don’t like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

“Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.”

http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/17/the-big-ticket-pumas-start-defecting/

PS They never mention that she was a self-made multi-millionaire before she married. The omission creates a gold-digger impression. Just saying…

#180 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 12:26 pm

Hey y’all. I just heard from Prowland. I told her all about the site and she said she was so pleased and had no idea that the site would do this well. She also asked for an update on political news because she had now way to hear what was going on. I told her as much as I could. She said it could be up to 3 more weeks without electricity. She said they were doing okay but she missed the internet. She said to tell everyone hello and that she missed us.

#181 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 12:27 pm

#157TerryDo: And I accept your “humble” opinion!
Perhaps I should clarify: It is not appropriate from my point of view relative to what I think she should have done in regard to him,who by her own campaign tactics and language revealed why the man is incompetent. Cetainly, you are right: no body knows why she felt for her it was appropriate. If and when that story ever is known, I know I won’t be around on the earth to hear it…but I still will be interested ! ..as each and every one of us will also,I am sure. And, by the way, Terrydo,
I don’t think your opinion is humble..I think it is …appropriate!!! Cheers to you.

#182 jody in florida on 09.17.08 at 12:28 pm

MURPHY-

What is the email address for the Action Center re: corrections, suggested additions, etc?

#183 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 12:29 pm

Have you seen this??

Dear Mr. Obama: Who Are You?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aBNduAyQ4

(I was getting mesmerized by the O-masks.)

#184 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:30 pm

actioncenter@pumapac.org

research drops you off at boycotts…
at work cannot correct from here. Interested in hearing about all other corrections/glitches, etc.
thanks

#185 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 12:31 pm

#177 BarbNOBO

Your OHIO report is verrrrrrrrrrrry encouraging!!

#186 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:31 pm

Asian4Hillary, great link. I commented on the article.

I have a pet peeve with people pretending that “elite” and “elitist” are synonyms.

Eleanor Roosevelt was not an elitist. Neither was Robert Kennedy. Many, many members of elite groups are NOT elitists — most pro athletes for example. Or, how about Bill Clinton?

#187 jody in florida on 09.17.08 at 12:31 pm

#184

Thanks Dances!

#188 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:32 pm

actioncenter@pumapac.org

This email address shoud also be added to the action center page.

#189 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 12:33 pm

Palin Will Meet with Foreign Leaders at the United Nations General Assembly

this is certainly a common sense way of meeting them and introducing herself to them, unlike the (some part of obama’s european tour) paid for by the american taxpayers

#190 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 12:34 pm

TX Tigress:
Thank goodness they were not those “killer bees”. When I moved to Brownsville. TX in1984 my brother asked if I wasn’t afraid of Communists from Mexico. I answered him saying, I’m a lot more afraid of the “killer bees.”

BTW, I ‘m pretty sure he was kidding about the Communist remark.

#191 bellecat on 09.17.08 at 12:35 pm

Murphy:

Who won in Mass?

O’Reiley? (spell?)

#192 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:35 pm

TexasTigress

Great story telling.
Have you read The Secret Life of Bees?

#193 DeepSouth on 09.17.08 at 12:36 pm

This is a great article by Susan Estrich. Though y’all might enjoy it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421741,00.html

#194 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 12:36 pm

This is about Dean How he hired a pundit from Daily Kos to work for him, etc.

Campaign Crawlers
Howard Dean’s Shrill Shill
By Patrick Hynes
Published 1/14/2005 12:05:25 AM

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7631

#195 DeepSouth on 09.17.08 at 12:37 pm

Though=Thought

#196 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 12:37 pm

#181 NewOrleansPuma,

My opinion is….I am so tired of trying to read between the lines and read body language. The truth is we have no idea what Hillary is thinking or doing. I will be so glad when this election is over and hopefully she will come out and tell us what she REALLY thinks and what is REALLY going on.

#197 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 12:37 pm

#59 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:45 am

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I was sort of wondering that myself. Although I understand that part of our mission here is to take back the party and part of that being primary election reform within the party, this could help with our mission of NObama. We are going to need all the ammunition we can get because this will be a close election.

#198 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 12:38 pm

Confirmed: Obama / Biden Demand that Iraq Not Negotiate w/Bush Admin on the Withdrawal of Troops
Washington Prowler
By The Prowler
Published 9/17/2008 12:08:47 AM

STANDING BY THE STORY
The Obama campaign spent more than five hours on Monday attempting to figure out the best refutation of the explosive New York Post report that quoted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari as saying that Barack Obama during his July visit to Baghdad demanded that Iraq not negotiate with the Bush Administration on the withdrawal of American troops. Instead, he asked that they delay such negotiations until after the presidential handover at the end of January.

The three problems, according to campaign sources: The report was true, there were at least three other people in the room with Obama and Zebari to confirm the conversation, and there was concern that there were enough aggressive reporters based in Baghdad with the sources to confirm the conversation that to deny the comments would create a bigger problem.

Instead, Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi told reporters that Obama told the Iraqis that they should not rush through what she termed a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of U.S. forces until after President Bush left office. In other words, the Iraqis should not negotiate an American troop withdrawal.

According to a Senate staffer working for Sen. Joseph Biden, Biden himself got involved in the shaping of the statement. “The whole reason he’s on the ticket is the foreign policy insight,” explained the staffer………

Thought this was interesting. If no one has seen it!

#199 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 12:38 pm

#18Murphy: Neither was FDR nor was John Kennedy. One can be a member of an elite group, mades so by money, status, power, or world view. An elitist, to my mind, is someone who either in reality or in their imagination holds that “apart” one, by that difference, has the right and obligation to hold anyone not of that group with disdain, and thus, with control over those disdained.

#200 bellecat on 09.17.08 at 12:39 pm

Oops! How can I get the PUMA money to download?

I got a letter from Howie asking for money and I can hardly wait to comply…

#201 ROSEMAY57 on 09.17.08 at 12:39 pm

My niece works at the MVR Club Restaurant in Youngstown, Ohio and John & Cindy McCain were there yesterday for Dinner. She was soooo excited, she told me that John McCain looked smaller than she thought and Cindy McCain she said was really pretty.
I asked what they had, and she told me they both had spaghetti and meatballs, also they insisted on paying their bill. This morning he was in Gustavus, Ohio which is only about12 miles from our business… this is farm country!! Back to work for me….

#202 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 12:40 pm

Fox will be talking about Hill not going to the protest NEXT …. tune in …

#203 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 12:40 pm

#196 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 12:37 pm

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I believe we’ll need to wait for a while for all that to come out. She has options right now that will need some Party help and backing, including the possibility of being the Senate Majority Leader in 2009. She’ll likely have to bite her tongue for some time to come.

#204 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 12:40 pm

183 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 12:29 pm Have you seen this??

Dear Mr. Obama: Who Are You?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aBNduAyQ4

(I was getting mesmerized by the O-masks.)
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kat in your hat, that was a very interesting and true commentary.

The many Face Masks of an empty Obama is a good symbol of Obama’s many personas.

#205 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 12:40 pm

Oblow supporters think “elitist” means “wealthy.”

They actually have no idea.

Or, like Murphy says “elite” and “elitist” are very two very different things.

#206 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 12:41 pm

#168 A-Will regarding the rally:

“Hillary also knows that if she is there with Palin, the media focus will be on the two women being together at the same venue, not on the event itself.”
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I thought of that before you did. :-)

#207 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 12:42 pm

#167 sandtraps I went and voted and tried something after I did I went back and tried to vote again and it let me, so it may also be the same obot voted more then once (so you get a bunch of BO supporters they could vote several times or at least twice) ususally they let you only vote once so this can’t happen (double voting) ..
#176 lilibet Ok

#208 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 12:42 pm

US attacked inside Pakistan , and Pakistanis were told to fire on US troops …. uh oh …

#209 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 12:43 pm

#204 TerryDo, I agree. The guy who made that video did a very good job and it’s so very true.

WHO is Obama? Where does he stand? Well, no one really knows…it’s so strange.

Ya, those O-Masks are perfect.

#210 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 12:43 pm

#196Texassherry: Yes, I think that is so very true…in every way.

#211 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 12:44 pm

http://www.johnmccain.com/mccaintv/live.htm

Sarah Palin along with John McCain will be answering questions straight from citizens at a townhall meeting today, im leaving this link just in case some stations decide to cut into it as they have done the last couple of rallies while she was speaking, it’s at 4:30 pm

#212 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:45 pm

200 bellecat

Go to http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
Select: Flyers, Fake Cash, Documents
Click on Fake Cash
Right click and then click on “save picture as”
Thne save to your desktop, or documents, on your harddrive.

#213 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 12:46 pm

175 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:22 pm I voted. it’s easy and fun:

http://www.politico.com/index.html
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Just voted also, it was easy, bottom right hand corner!

#214 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 12:46 pm

#199 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 12:38 pm

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Elitism to me is an attitude, and has got nothing to do with real status or money, or how many homes one has. It’s a general attitude that “I know what’s best for you because I know more then you.” It’s offensive, even to some well-to-do’s who have enough common sense to realize that most people in this country, no matter their educatoin level or monetary status actually have their own sense of what is best for them and their families. It’s generally failing to realize that if you give an American the right tools and then get out of his/her way – they’ll get-r-done in their own best interest.

Just my humble opinion.

#215 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 12:47 pm

Another Dean Article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/22/lanny-davis-howard-dean-s_n_98083.html

#216 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 12:47 pm

THANKS SLY- You can vote as many times as you want – go vote !!!

http://www.politico.com/index.html

#217 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 12:47 pm

#208 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 12:42 pm

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What??

#218 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 12:48 pm

#198Accordin to the Obama campaign before this jerk went over there, this was a fact finding mission right…that we paid for not a campaign event…Let usnot let that be lost or forgotten..Who the hell are these two …attempting to influence the actions of Iraq and bartering foreign policy for political prowess, profit, and control. Somebody needs to pull both of these jerks by the ears, or I have another place I would rather pull, and tell them ….they have no legal moral or intellectual standing to do that.

#219 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:49 pm

200 bellecat

If it doesn’t work that way, do this:

Go to http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
Select: Flyers, Fake Cash, Documents
Click on Fake Cash
Right click and select “Copy”
Paste into a blank word document
Then print.

The fake cash document is three bills to a page.

#220 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 12:50 pm

NObamaDem Breaking news on Fox . US sent a drone inside the Pakistan border and fired a missle …. I’ll find a link ..

#221 TerryDo on 09.17.08 at 12:50 pm

211 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 12:44 pm http://www.johnmccain.com/mccaintv/live.htm

Sarah Palin along with John McCain will be answering questions straight from citizens at a townhall meeting today
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Maybe Poor Baby Obama will watch how townhall meeting are done and he won’t be so imtimidate by citizens asking honest questions and then he could join McCain in these townhalls. MAYBE!

#222 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 12:50 pm

“… attempting to influence the actions of Iraq and bartering foreign policy for political prowess, profit, and control. ”

I thought that was illegal?

#223 mick on 09.17.08 at 12:51 pm

*** Murphy *** Murphy *** Murphy ***

Question …

Have you ever thought about placing a forum page to your blog? It’s very user friendly and has many benefits over the current blog comment section. If you are interested I would be happy to set it up for you, at no cost of course.

http://www.freeforums.org/features.php

#224 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 12:51 pm

good afternoon pumas
look people¡¡¡
bozzo is not a socialist or a communist, what is going on looks more like terrorism, like coup thru fraud
right now socialists & communists parties in europe play their games by the rules of democracy

#225 murphy on 09.17.08 at 12:51 pm

I am looking for help in finishing the Puma PAC Slate for All 50 States.

If gogandalf is around at all maybe you would send me another email?

I have a little less than half the states completed but would love to get them done today and tonight.

Thanks!

#226 hillaryistheone on 09.17.08 at 12:51 pm

http://www.politico.com/index.html

This is one of those polls…like CNN where you can vote a 1000 times. Those are a waste of time. I did vote 3 times though!! LOL

#227 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 12:51 pm

Sadiepaws

Please post the URL about Obama / Biden Demand that Iraq Not Negotiate w/Bush Admin on the Withdrawal of Troops

#228 ontherocks on 09.17.08 at 12:52 pm

Good afternoon everyone.

I have to say I am a little upset with Hillary for opting out of the event.
I sure hope she knows what she is doing.

#229 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 12:53 pm

Just in:

Second NETWORK interview of Sarah Palin granted to Katie Curic.

Also, I hear Ms. Palin will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight on the Fox channel. This will actually be her second interview to the media in general. This is the one that should be more fair and balanced.

#230 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 12:53 pm

#214Nobamadem: Oh..you defined it so much better than my attempt here…Yes, I think your description is excellent and true!

#231 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 12:54 pm

by the way
russians naval ships are in front of venezuela´s coast¡¡¡¡¡,, ??????

#232 bellecat on 09.17.08 at 12:55 pm

Sherry:

Hillary is still a senator for New York and elected as a democrat. I think she is doing the right thing of fullfilling her obligations as senator and at the same time protecting her record as a politician.

She is a pretty wise woman. The way BOBO has forced himself into politics is quite messy; and she knows that things fall by their own weight.

Just like a good PUMA biting time for a good catch.

#233 ontherocks on 09.17.08 at 12:56 pm

post # 231
What? Where did you hear that?

#234 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 12:58 pm

#232 bellecat ,

I agree that if her goal is her senate position the she is doing the right thing. I am so glad that she hasn’t joined in on the personal smear campaign. As always she is staying professional and classy. I hope when this is over that she will join Palin in a fight for women’s rights. They can both be proud that they made history this year for women all over.

#235 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 1:00 pm

I wonder when, or make that IF, NBC will ever get an interview with Ms. Palin.

Personally I don’t think they deserve the ratings she’ll bring in.

#236 sandtraps on 09.17.08 at 1:01 pm

#207 slyt2— yes you can vote over and over http://www.politico.com/index.html Likely a waste of time but I would love for once : one of their polls to not be 75%for Obama.

#237 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 1:02 pm

NobamaDem-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,424023,00.html

#238 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 1:02 pm

#222Dances: Well, what else is new? He is consistent in that regard for sure, since he stepped out his ObamaPandora box. Laws? What the hell is that..when one has successful ly usurped them, broken them, and otherwise had no inclination to worry about them. That is the “no boundries, no methods out of line to achieve selfinterest…Machiavelli and a worse version..Alinsky way.

#239 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 1:02 pm

I hope you all are reading the Dean articles – especially the one from Huffington. I’m trying to get info enough to shut his mouth up!! He is just as corrupt as Rezko. And what the hell is the Ethics Committe doing? Hiding more crap!! They haven’t done a thing about some of the other “bennies” that Deano and others have received from Countrywide!! Where are they? Does the Ethics Committee really exist?

#240 jody in florida on 09.17.08 at 1:03 pm

#226 hillaryistheone

http://www.politico.com/index.html

This is one of those polls…like CNN where you can vote a 1000 times. Those are a waste of time. I did vote 3 times though!! LOL
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This poll either doesn’t really allow multiple voting or something is fishy. I voted about 2 dozen times and noticed that the percentages did not change at all (very possible) but that several times that the total # of votes did not change as many as 3-4 times in a row.

#241 bellecat on 09.17.08 at 1:04 pm

Dances:

Thanx a bunch. I got my PUMA money.

#242 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 1:05 pm

maybe the republicans would have take out of the closet buzzo´s dirty cloth
also could be that DNC knows something is coming out soon and figuerd they burn all the candles before the end

#243 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 1:05 pm

Ugh…Russian missiles down south, hanging out with Venezuela, terrorists set off bomb at US Embassy in Yemin today…and apparently US soldiers are getting shot in Pakistan?

Economic crisis…Afghanistan…Iraq…hurricanes…nukes everywhere…

Obama cannot be president.

#244 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:06 pm

Storyteller

Chavez and Putin is going to have a joint military exercise which is very alarming. The pentagon is paying a close watch on this. USA import a lot of our oil from Venezuela, European countries are importing their oil from Russia. Putin informed European countries like Poland and Germany he’s going to shutdown oil pipelines going to their country.

The Democratic lead Congress is NOT paying attention by the move of Venezuela and Russia. The oil drilling bill passed by Congress yesterday is USELESS, they’re enabling Russia and Venezuela.

A lot of you here don’t want offshore drilling, then be ready to send your sons and daughters to go to war if this country goes to war because of oil. I guess you don’t mind few young Americans to die to feed your vehicles, electricity and your house warm during winter time. Sorry to be brutally honest folks, but it is what it is! That is reality, not ideology!

#245 sandtraps on 09.17.08 at 1:06 pm

Work to be done as it is so close: Print E-mail September 17, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama 47%, McCain 45%Obama gains an edgeUSA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ — The Sept. 14-16 Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows Barack Obama regaining a slight, although not statistically significant, edge over John McCain, 47% to 45%, among registered voters, marking the first time since the week of the Republican National Convention that McCain has not held at least a one percentage point margin over Obama.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110446/Gallup-Daily-Obama-47-McCain-45.aspx

#246 sistermoon3 on 09.17.08 at 1:08 pm

Here’s a Nobel Peace Price winners six ways to fix wall street, I found it totally correct, now which candidate will listen?

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. We need first to correct incentives for executives, reducing the scope for conflicts of interest and improving shareholder information about dilution in share value as a result of stock options. We should mitigate the incentives for excessive risk-taking and the short-term focus that has so long prevailed, for instance, by requiring bonuses to be paid on the basis of, say, five-year returns, rather than annual returns.

2. Secondly, we need to create a financial product safety commission, to make sure that products bought and sold by banks, pension funds, etc. are safe for “human consumption.” Consenting adults should be given great freedom to do whatever they want, but that does not mean they should gamble with other people’s money. Some may worry that this may stifle innovation. But that may be a good thing considering the kind of innovation we had — attempting to subvert accounting and regulations. What we need is more innovation addressing the needs of ordinary Americans, so they can stay in their homes when economic conditions change.

3. We need to create a financial systems stability commission to take an overview of the entire financial system, recognizing the interrelations among the various parts, and to prevent the excessive systemic leveraging that we have just experienced.

4. We need to impose other regulations to improve the safety and soundness of our financial system, such as “speed bumps” to limit borrowing. Historically, rapid expansion of lending has been responsible for a large fraction of crises and this crisis is no exception.

5. We need better consumer protection laws, including laws that prevent predatory lending.

6. We need better competition laws. The financial institutions have been able to prey on consumers through credit cards partly because of the absence of competition. But even more importantly, we should not be in situations where a firm is “too big to fail.” If it is that big, it should be broken up.

#247 murphy on 09.17.08 at 1:09 pm

DeepSouth #193, agreed — a GREAT article. I loved loved loved this line:

“Men do not generally identify with other men when they are belittled. Women do.”

Why is the DONC so stupid??

here’s the link again:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421741,00.html

#248 c4hill on 09.17.08 at 1:10 pm

McCain had a fund raiser on Monday-with Robert Duval & Anne Hathaway-raised 5million dollars…tough times all around.

#249 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 1:11 pm

#222 DancesWithPumas

It would be a clear violation of The Logan Act:

The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization.

http://law.jrank.org/pages/8357/Logan-Act.html

I hope McCain is gearing up to lay this directly at NObama/NObiden’s traitorous feet!

#250 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 1:12 pm

Asian, I was always against drilling, but not anymore.

I want us to do absolutely everything and I want to be energy independent. I really do.

We just cannot depend on people and countries that HATE us.

It’s become absurd. Why the hell are we depending on our enemies for survival?? STUPID.

There is more to this than I must know because it’s not just because of the environment that we haven’t drilled.

The only reason Alaska became a state is because of its energy.

I remember learning about that back in the 6th grade!

#251 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 1:12 pm

DancesWithPumas, I have modified the Godzilla prowl, so that now it is more cogent, more of an organic whole. When I got the idea yesterday, I slapped it together piecemeal. I’m sending the modified rtf to the Action Center as an attachment, giving it the name godzillaprowlmaster.rtf.

#252 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 1:12 pm

Here is the new spin buster to find out about news, etc.

http://spinspotter.com/home

#253 bellecat on 09.17.08 at 1:12 pm

Talking about biting time for a good catch, my fellow PUMAs:

I strongly believe that the BOBO”S violation of the Logan’s Act is a “must” for us to prowl on.

This Fraud was not even an official candidate when he went to Iraq and spoke in behalf of who? Himself of course.

Now that is a crime, a felony. He has broken the law of the land and should be held accountable.

C’mon PUMAs we are SPARTANS!

#254 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 1:13 pm

sistermoon….
your platform is impressive..theres only one thing that would never allow it to work..
MONEY!
:lol:

#255 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 1:15 pm

storytellers on 09.17.08 at 12:51 pm
good afternoon pumas
look people¡¡¡
bozzo is not a socialist or a communist, what is going on looks more like terrorism, like coup thru fraud
right now socialists & communists parties in Europe play their games by the rules of democracy
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I am convinced we have terrorist at work here….America so greedy it will self destruct.

#256 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 1:16 pm

Asian4Hillary,

This is the address:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#257 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 1:16 pm

c4hill: fundraiser for what? The RNC? McCain gets public campaign finances. He doesn’t need to raise money for his personal campaign. RNC helps McCain but also other republicans.

Where’s the link? I want to know why he was at the fundraiser.

#258 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 1:16 pm

You have to realize who is really behind all of these major institutions going under. It is the big investors like Warren Buffett, George Soros, etc. They are playing with our lives, jobs, the economy, and they don’t give a damn who it hurts. They are bored, it’s an election year, they are causing the majority of these problems. It’s also the ones that took the majority of donations, loans, bennies, etc., but yet tell “us” how bad the companies are, etc. It’s a game, a very dangerous game!!

#259 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 1:16 pm

bellecat…
the burden of proof would be on the accuser..im sure they would lie and have witnesses to deny that..
I’m all for it but it would take an army of lawyers to tackle that one..

#260 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 1:17 pm

#211 sistermoon3 yea i heard that there will be having people who are independents ,Republicans and democrats at this townhall meeting. In her few short weeks of being VP I think she has already done more then BO.. he only has let people ask him questions at his rally’s who he knows are drinking the kool-aid (safe-haven) lol.

#261 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 1:18 pm

Interesting. “Strong pressure” being applied to get Palin “disinvited” from Anti-Iran rally next week:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Iran_rally_gets_complicated.html

#262 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 1:19 pm

#9 blondlady, I think you’re right. Even if it doesn’t work, there is no doubt that Hillary’s pulling out will upset the Jewish community. There can be no rational reason other than that Hillary has acted in a way that should help McCain.

#263 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 1:20 pm

sounds like the organizers of that anti-iran rally are obama supporters .. what a bunch of fools..

#264 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 1:20 pm

#248 c4hill I wonder why they didn’t talk about that on the news and if that’s true that is kind of dumb of McCain to be bashing BO for doing it if McCain had done the same thing.

#265 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:22 pm

Sadiepaws

Thank you very much.:)

Okay everyone read this.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_objects_129453.htm?page=0

#266 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:22 pm

251 Godzilla

Okay.

#267 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:23 pm

Obama’s campaign was based on his “good judgement” about Iraq when he was a state senator, therefor couldn’t cast his vote in the US Senate.

#268 bellecat on 09.17.08 at 1:24 pm

#259 osaka puma:

However, we as citizens and voters have an obligation to request for the elected officials to look and investigate into and not to ignore and dismiss an act that violates our laws.

#269 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 1:24 pm

@258: I wonder if it is true that George Soros is the one who blew the whistle on Halliburton, got all the moveon types to fight against it, but then on the down low he bought the most Halliburton stocks (in its history) when they were really cheap, and then it normalized and he made a KILLING. Wonder if that is true.

Some people are so rich, they literally play with the markets and our lives like it’s a game. They can manipulate wars and the economy and buy presidencies.

A handful of billionaires rule the world.

#270 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 1:25 pm

The McCain campaign should go after the actions of Obama on his visit to Iraq. His campaign has now, supposedly, admitted that in fact he did what the Iraqi guy said he did. And if not that campaign, we should.
This was touted as a fact finding mission. It was paid for with taxpayer money. We now know this in fact is not what occurred. We should do a major Prowl about this. Murphy< will you please at least consider writing a thread about this, and consider a Prowl. Once again, fraud does fraud…lie does lie, phony shows phony and the MSM will not go after it. We, the voices in the wilderness, are the ones who need to do so.

#271 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 1:25 pm

@265 Asian:

Thank you!

#272 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 1:25 pm

247 murphy
“Men do not generally identify with other men when they are belittled. Women do.”

Why is the DONC so stupid?
—————-
Two thoughts on is quote:
Men do not like to think of themselves as being belittled, it shows weakness and God forbid men with weakness…they just reframe the presentation to the public….

Men do rally around each other when they are threatened:

1. Ever listened to how unfair ex-wives are and how men always get stuck paying child support? They are sing the same song.

2. Obots are men, and they were feeling threatened by Hillary and PUMAs that are women, their way of getting back………… sexism.

#273 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:25 pm

Oil and our national security are closely intertwined, Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats still DO NOT GET IT! DAMN IT!! :twisted:

#274 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 1:25 pm

264 slyt2 – because McCain opted for public funds, at midnite of his nomination, he had to start over….he is only allowed 84 million. I don’t know what he started with, does anyone here know?

#275 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:26 pm

241 bellecat
Dances:
Thanx a bunch. I got my PUMA money.
—————————————
Good!
I have to update the pre-Denver faux money.
Any ideas?

#276 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 1:26 pm

obama,biden and hillary non-shows at that anti-iran rally?? WHY??
could be they are all reading off the same zbignew brezhinski foreign policy mandate,because if obama gets in he will carry out zbigs strategy..which is to sing kumbayaa with the middle east oil producing countries and lessen israeli-american relationship

#277 JackOkie on 09.17.08 at 1:27 pm

#110 mspect:

I skipped the rest of the comments to say this:

I have been wondering how I might make myself useful on Nov. 4 since McCain has a lock on Oklahoma. It would be a privilege to escort PUMAs (or anyone else) to the polls where there is a real threat of intimidation. Based on your stories of the caucuses I wouldn’t be surprised to see it tried on election day.

Does the PUMA site have a way for people to list the city they are concerned about, and let people like myself sign up for escort duty? We should not let the Obabatrons hassle one single person.

#278 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 1:27 pm

re#268 belle..
I’m all for it!!

#279 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:29 pm

Ever listened to how unfair ex-wives are and how men always get stuck paying child support?
——————————————————–
Imagine? Complaining about supporting your own children? Bizarre. They should also have to pay their exes for 24 hour round the clock, including weekends (time and a half over 8 hours, and double time for weekends) childcare.

#280 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:32 pm

277 JackOkie

If you want to take the lead and gather the info, send to actioncenter@pumapac.org, and we could post it in the PumaPAC Action Center under Elections or Actions/Prowls.
Unless I’m reading you incorrectly.

#281 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 1:33 pm

dances..
there are way too many selfish men and women who should never get married or have children..
SELFISH people can never have good relationships..

#282 dreffein on 09.17.08 at 1:35 pm

Folks – been a long time since I visited the site. I truly appreciate all that has been done by PUMA PAC to elevate the national dialogue regarding the role of sexism in Democratic politics, the role of the DNC and the role of the Obama campaign. I believe that the treatment of women is and has been horrendous.

But as I stare down at the election, I think that the choice for the country is clear and I’ve decided to vote for Obama (I was going to write in HRC). Too much is at stake. Issues even more important than our own agenda – war, the economy, global warming, energy…I will continue to be politically active to push women’s issues and stature.

Best wishes to all of you.

#283 john on 09.17.08 at 1:35 pm

Asian4Hillary Every American should be outrage we need to force them to investigate whether Obama violate the LOGAN ACT….Obama needs to step down NOW if he did this, which I have no doubt he did.
Who should we contact on the vital issue?

#284 mick on 09.17.08 at 1:37 pm

#248 c4hill on 09.17.08 at 1:10 pm

Let’s be clear … DailyKos is reporting this BUT the dinner was BEFORE the RNC NOT this past Monday!! Be careful were you get your news.

McCain excepted federal campaign financing so he isn’t fundraising anymore.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/74910/1514/702/601380

“McCain had a fund raiser on Monday-with Robert Duval & Anne Hathaway-raised 5million dollars…tough times all around.”

#285 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 1:38 pm

I HAVE DECIDED TO BECOME A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE.
HERE IS MY PLATFORM:

(1) ‘Press 1 for English’ is immediately banned. English is the official language; speak it or wait at the border until you can.

(2) We will immediately go into a two year isolationist posture to straighten out the country’s attitude. NO imports, no exports. We will use the ‘Wal-Mart ’s policy, ‘If we ain’t got it, you don’t need it.’

(3) When imports are allowed, there will be a 100% import tax on it.

(4) All retired military personnel will be required to man one of our many observation towers on the southern border. (six month tour) They will be under strict orders not to fire on SOUTHBOUND aliens.

(5) Social security will immediately return to its original state If you didn’t put nuttin in, you ain’t gettin nuttin out. The president nor any other politician will be able to touch it.

(6) Welfare – Checks will be handed out on Fridays at the end of the 40 hour school week and the successful completion of urinalysis and a passing grade.

(7) Professional Athletes –Steroids – The FIRST time you check positive you’re banned for life.

(8) Crime – We will adopt the Turkish method, the first time you steal, you lose your right hand. There is no more life sentences. If convicted of murder, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for your victim; gun, knife, strangulation, etc.

(9) One export will be allowed; Wheat, The world needs to eat. A bushel of wheat will be the exact price of a barrel of oil.

(10) All foreign aid using American taxpayer money will immediately cease, and the saved money will pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we’ll ask the American people if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision whether it’s a worthy cause.

(11) The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.

(12) The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc.

Sorry if I stepped on anyone’s toes

GOD BLESS AMERICA .

Bill Cosby

#286 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 1:38 pm

#282dreffein: How pitiful. You will be placed in our RIKA
Memorial book: Rest In Kool-Aid.

#287 Caracal Carrie on 09.17.08 at 1:38 pm

Sorry it took so long to post this..trying to work..not going well lol.

http://puma-facts.com

#288 john on 09.17.08 at 1:39 pm

McCain was in Florida Monday at the Continental Hotel where he raised 5 million

#289 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 1:39 pm

Think about how much has been wasted on getting the One in as president:
1 – One of the best people that could get America out of all these problems was slottered by her own party and her media.
2- All the money that was wasted on buying off superdelegates, MileHigh field and glitz, corporations, and the liberal media. And all the other payoffs we don’t know about. (This money could have helped America get out of debt)
3- Distroying one person one vote, democracy.
4- Bringing out the idea of a woman’s value in our society no matter how intelligent, good or worthy she is. Her aging makes her more worthless. (IE: women are only useful to look at and use)
5- Working American’s are only to be used for their tax money and manipulated for most of their votes.

How could one person running for President bring out the worst problems of our society? Maybe this is a wakeup call from the rest of the world to us, to see what it is they hate most about American society.

Am I angry, H@ll yes! Am I sick of what my party and more than half of it’s followers are allowing…H@ll yes!

Can PUMAs fix these problems alone? I don’t think so. Maybe this is one of those huge problems that things have to hit rock bottom before enough people stand up and say, ENOUGH!

#290 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 1:40 pm

#97 hillstheone, I modified the prowl and sent it to the action center, but it hasn’t replaced the old one yet, so for now consider the prowl as innactive, waiting for final massaging. The idea will be to do the prowl as a COORDINATED PUMA effort, to strengthen its impact. If Murphy or DancesWithPumas wants me to lead it, then that’s okay. I’m waiting to hear from them.

#291 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:41 pm

251 Godzilla

The action center mail client doesn’t like .rtf documents.
Would you send a .doc, or we might have better luck if you send the master rtf to me at geemailcom. Thanks.

#292 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:41 pm

kat in the hat

Oil was not discovered in Alaska til the 70’s, the real reason Alaska was bought its for national security. It the closest state of the Union to Asia, next door neighbor is Russia. The Aleutian chain is only a few minutes away from Russia, our defense shield is located there. The National Guard in Alaska is on 24 hours alert even before 9/11. The Coast Guard is ALWAYS on patrol in Alaska. These two groups are the first defense in case of invasion from Russia. Alaskans are heavily armed, there’s a reason for that. In case of invasion, they’ll face the russkies before people from lower 48 do. During World War II, the japanese reached Alaska but they died, all of them. ALACAN highway was built in a hurry to bring supply to Alaska because USA knew Japan might plan have another attack against USA through the “Last Frontier”. Imperial Japan have done that, they’ve sent expeditionary team in Alaska, but they were not ready for the harsh weather, they all froze to death.

#293 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 1:42 pm

#286…New Orleans PUMA. You crack me up. That’s a good one.

#294 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 1:42 pm

285 Pookie

Too bad Bill Cosby is a big Oboy supporter.

#295 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 1:42 pm

sorry for errors

#296 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 1:43 pm

How come PUMAs aren’t running advertisements? We should be running ads in some of the swing states. I think that having Democrats rebel against their candidate is something powerful and may be the nail in the coffin. I work in the industry and I know where to go to air ads for cheap. We need anti-Obama ads on the air. People need to know that PUMA is here and still in full force. What do you all think?

#297 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:43 pm

290 Godzilla

I don’t decide anything. I’m just a worker bee. Murphy is the puma pac decider.
I’m at my day job and can’t upload anything from here. Will do as soon as I get home this afternoon.

#298 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 1:43 pm

#284 mick Ok thank you Mick for clearing that up for me I was thinking why wouldn’t it have been reported on tv and also that would have been pretty bad for him to say things about BO yesterday if he just did it Monday..

#265 Asian4Hillary why the H*LL isn’t the media reporting this all I heard is fox mentioned it twice and all they said was we asked the BO campaign and they denied it then I heard McCain’s campaign demanding answers from BO if it’s true..??? THis is a bunch of crap

#299 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 1:44 pm

#285 Pookie ,

I love Bill Cosby!!! He has my vote :lol:

#300 mick on 09.17.08 at 1:44 pm

Oops, accepted not excepted.

#284 mick on 09.17.08 at 1:37 pm #248 c4hill on 09.17.08 at 1:10 pm

Let’s be clear … DailyKos is reporting this BUT the dinner was BEFORE the RNC NOT this past Monday!! Be careful were you get your news.

McCain accepted federal campaign financing so he isn’t fundraising anymore.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/74910/1514/702/601380

“McCain had a fund raiser on Monday-with Robert Duval & Anne Hathaway-raised 5million dollars…tough times all around.”

#301 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:44 pm

#283 john on 09.17.08 at 1:35 pm

State Department

Department of National Defense

National Security Council Administration

#302 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:45 pm

296 pumasupporter
Good idea!
Would you happen to have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around that you could spare? :)

#303 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 1:46 pm

No Oil for Blood
Thanks to three American senators (Schumer. Kerry and McCaskill), China will be pumping Iraqi oil.
by Frederick W. Kagan
09/16/2008 3:15:00 PM

This morning, I had the honor of testifying before the House Budget Committee on the situation in Iraq. The discussion was polite and civilized, and was a reminder that even now it is possible for people who disagree about what to do in Iraq to argue without raised voices and disagreeable language (apart from the Code Pink women, yelling for those who think that shouting opponents down is preferable to arguing with them). Congressman Brian Baird once again demonstrated that it is possible even for those who bitterly opposed the war to recognize the importance of doing the right thing now–as well as the possibility of crossing the Republican-Democrat sectarian divide on this issue. One question came up repeatedly in the hearing that deserves more of an answer than it got, however: Why, after all the assistance we’ve given to Iraq over the past five years, was the first major Iraqi oil deal signed with China and not with an American or even a western company? The answer is, in part, because three Democratic senators intervened in Iraqi domestic politics earlier this year to prevent Iraq from signing short-term agreements with Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total, Chevron, and BP.

The Iraqi government was poised to sign no-bid contracts with those firms this summer to help make immediate and needed improvements in Iraq’s oil infrastructure. The result would have been significant foreign investment in Iraq, an expansion of Iraqi government revenues, and an increase in the global supply of oil. One would have thought that leading Democratic senators who claim to be interested in finding other sources of funding to replace American dollars in Iraq, in helping Iraq spend its own money on its own people, and in lowering the price of gasoline for American citizens, would have been all for it. Instead, Senators Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, and Claire McCaskill wrote a letter to Secretary of State Rice asking her “to persuade the GOI [Government of Iraq] to refrain from signing contracts with multinational oil companies until a hydrocarbon law is in effect in Iraq.” The Bush administration wisely refused to do so, but the resulting media hooraw in Iraq led to the cancellation of the contracts, and helps to explain why Iraq is doing oil deals instead with China.

Senators Schumer, McCaskill, and Kerry claimed to be acting from the purest of motives: “It is our fear that this action by the Iraqi government could further deepen political tensions in Iraq and put our service members in even great danger.” For that reason, presumably, Schumer went so far as to ask the senior vice president of Exxon “if his company would agree to wait until the GOI produced a fair, equitable, and transparent hydrocarbon revenue sharing law before it signed any long-term agreement with the GOI.” Exxon naturally refused, but Schumer managed to get the deal killed anyway. But the ostensible premise of the senators’ objections was false–Iraq may not have a hydrocarbons law, but the central government has been sharing oil revenues equitably and there is no reason at all to imagine that signing the deals would have generated increased violence (and this was certainly not the view of American civilian and military officials on the ground in Iraq at the time). It is certain that killing the deals has delayed the maturation of Iraq’s oil industry without producing the desired hydrocarbons legislation.

Nor is it entirely clear what the senators’ motivations were. Their release (available along with their letter to Secretary Rice at the New York Observer quoted Senator McCaskill as follows: “‘It’s bad enough that we have no-bid contracts being awarded for work in Iraq. It’s bad enough that the big oil companies continue to receive government handouts while they post record breaking profits. But now the most profitable companies in the universe–America’s biggest oil companies–stand to reap the rewards of this no-bid contract on top of it all,’ McCaskill said. ‘It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to connect these dots–big oil is running Washington and now they’re running Baghdad. There is no reason under the sun not to halt these agreements until we get revenue sharing in place,’ McCaskill said.” So was this about what’s best for Iraq and American interests there or about nailing “big oil” in an election year?

Either way, like Barack Obama’s asking the Iraqi foreign minister to hold off on a strategic framework agreement until after the American election, it was nothing but harmful to American interests and our prospects in Iraq.

Frederick W. Kagan, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is a contributing editor to THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

© Copyright 2008, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.

#304 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 1:46 pm

#296 pumasupporter

I have thought the same thing for a long time. We need to get our message on the air. TV ads are a lot more powerful than blogs. You can reach so many more people. The people in my small town only listen to the news. Many of them don’t own computers. They have no idea the things Oboy has done.

#305 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 1:46 pm

302, DWP, lol no I wish. But it won’t cost that much, depending on the market that you buy in.

#306 JackOkie on 09.17.08 at 1:47 pm

#280 DancesWithPumas

What I have in mind is somewhat like a bulletin board: Any PUMA who is concerned about being hassled could put their PUMA name and city on the list; volunteer escorts could then see which city best fit their circumstances and sign up to escort the concerned PUMAs in that city.

You know, now that I think about it, this might be something the aMcCain GOTV operation could consider – a ride to the polls with some muscle.

If we got the guys from Rolling Thunder involved those Obama weenies would pee in their pants (sorry for the indelicacy but 1gypsy4mc started it).

#307 mspecht on 09.17.08 at 1:47 pm

#277 &#280
that’s what I’m talking about if we can organize the puma’s across the country we could place ourselves outside of polling places ,,,know for sure that BO will have his bots out to intimadate people tring to vote..we need to have a plan…for sure in states that are close,we can not let are guard down..

#308 FairMindedRepub on 09.17.08 at 1:48 pm

A female Hillary fund raising all-star backing McCain?

I don’t know if anyone has seen this yet, but I figured that if anyone would know more it would be the PUMA’s!

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/clinton_backer_mccain/2008/09/17/131672.html

What do you think??

-FMR

#309 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 1:48 pm

#282dreffein:

If you truely care about America you will not vote for Obama. Please look at the other candidates websites and read their views on the issues before casting your vote. Do not listen to everything you hear on Tv because it is biased and they don’t tell you everything. Obama is all talk and will not help our country and if anything he will destroy it.

#310 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 1:49 pm

Obama must go down! The very thought of him in the
white house with all his thugs makes me sick!!!

#311 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 1:50 pm

#289BillieJoe: We are at rock bottom. Anything after this is the demise of this country. Enough is already Enough. If these people have, in fact, figured out how to win through manipulation of electronic voting machines, paperless voting booths, et al, then, we are already in the demise. We are tired and we ARENOT TIRED. We must continue to attack from as many angles as possible. We must do this now, tomorrow, and every day and night until election day.
And if he wins, then the right to bear arms will be the single most important right not yet taken from us.
I have said more than once here that this cause is the cause of our lifetime, as important, and as defining as the citizen response to Dec 7,1941. We will not waver.
We will not stop. We will prevail for if we do not we will be enslaved. And if that occurs, I will stand to my last dying breath against those who enslave, as surely as I know my name, my heritage, and my heart…Onward!

#312 JackOkie on 09.17.08 at 1:51 pm

The upside to the China – Iraq oil deal is if things get tense with Iran there is at least a partial replacement for the oil China currently gets from Iran.

#313 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 1:52 pm

#282 dreffein

It will be hard for me to vote republican, but McCain is so much better than Obama. Obama with his ties to terrorists and big oil and lobbyists isn’t going to help our country. He only wants to help himself. Now he has violated the Logan Act. Is this really someone that you want for President?

#314 BarbNOBO on 09.17.08 at 1:53 pm

Some predict there will be huge problems with the economy if BO gets elected….
http://w3.newsmax.com/a/jun08/?s=al&promo_code=6A75-1

#315 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 1:54 pm

#251 DancesWithPumas, I’ll convert the rtf to doc and send it to the action center.

#316 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 1:55 pm

ASIAN4 HILLARY
I guess that if 1/2 of the americans would have had
your experience bobo would not be running for president
he is a disgrace for democracy, he is going to make america the laughingstock of the world

#317 JackOkie on 09.17.08 at 1:55 pm

#307 mspect:

Well I’ve been slacking and haven’t toured the entire site yet. Is there a way to set up the kind of list we’re talking about on this site?

#318 mick on 09.17.08 at 1:56 pm

#288 john on 09.17.08 at 1:39 pm

“McCain was in Florida Monday at the Continental Hotel where he raised 5 million”

Please give me a link to the news article.

This is my link and it’s dated 8-26-08

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/26/mccain_holds_celeb-packed_fund.html

DailyKos and HuffPo are reporting this like it happened on Monday of this week but that’s not true.

PLEASE consider the source when reading this stuff.

#319 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 1:56 pm

neworleanspuma

I agree wholeheartedly! You are a true Puma!
We have to dig deep and fight hard!

#320 mspecht on 09.17.08 at 1:57 pm

#317
I don’t know but if not we need one

#321 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 1:57 pm

Dances-
My idea for PUMA bucks.

Where it says “Take it to Denver”, replaced with
” Betrayed by her own party”

Keep Hillary’s photo on it, and add before her name,
“Future President Hillary R. Clinton”

If you can change the number 44 (difficult) maybe something like Worthless DONC????

#322 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 1:57 pm

texas sherry
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SLOGAN¡¡¡¡¡¡

“IF YOU CARE ABOUT AMERICA YOU WOULD NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA”

#323 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 1:58 pm

KarlaforHillary and pumasupporter–
I wonder if informative flyer mailers or newspaper inserts woul dbe more effective and less expensive?

#324 ROSEMAY57 on 09.17.08 at 1:58 pm

Why can’t we use the federal governments power to investigate BO and his clandestine meeting with Iraqi government leaders without US government approval as it applies to the Logan Act. This is against the wishes of our own government and the American people. President Bush can do something about this.

#325 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 1:58 pm

#319sadiepaws: Yes, dig as deep as the unlimited nature of the human soul. Fight until there is no breath.
For if not us, WHO?

#326 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 1:59 pm

mick on 09.17.08 at 1:37 pm

#248 c4hill on 09.17.08 at 1:10 pm

Let’s be clear … DailyKos is reporting this BUT the dinner was BEFORE the RNC NOT this past Monday!! Be careful were you get your news.

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Man – that’s about the biggest pile of disinformation I have seen on this site yet. The Streisand/Hollywood event was INDEED last night. There was a different Hollywood event he and I believe Michelle attended before the GOP convention.

Careful where you get your news from. Even the CBS Chicago station is reporting about last night’s event.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.hollywood.2.819585.html

#327 sadiepaws on 09.17.08 at 2:00 pm

I have to take my dog for a walk and I will check back
later and will be ready for prowling!
We Pumas are strong and must continue the fight!
Be back soon!

#328 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 2:00 pm

#297 DancesWithPumas, okay. I’ve sent the modified prowl to the action center in doc format, and will wait to hear from Murphy. Since Murphy is probably tapped into PUMAs in other blogs, she (or he?) can probably advertise it to a wider audience than I can.

#329 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:01 pm

NObama said he does not approve what Daily KOs spew in the internet, but he attended their convention

What does it say about NOBAMA? He talks with FORKED TONGUE!

#330 murphy on 09.17.08 at 2:02 pm

rosemay #201 — great story!

I have to admit that I read last week’s in-depth profile of Cindy McCain in the New Yorker and I was rather troubled.

Although she seems like a very independent and can-do woman, as well as being clearly committed to charitable giving, the way she supposedly has treated her sisters is deeply wrong in my personal opinion.

The article itself was fair and balanced in my opinion, so I dont think it was a hit job. But I would like to know more about why it is that Cindy has ALWAYS referred to herself as an only child and if she has in fact kept virtually ALL of her parents’ Half-BILLION dollar inheritance to herself.

The cynical side of me also says that whether I support her choice to keep her sisters out of the inheritance, it is STILL a bad political move.

anyway — it doesnt much matter because she’s not running for office, he is, and either way, a Puma PAC vote for McCain is a Protest Vote not an endorsement. Just sharing.

here’s the link to the article if anyone is interested (it’s a good read). Lately the New Yorker has been less kool-aid drenched and therefore safer again for public consumption.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/09/15/080915fa_fact_levy

#331 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:02 pm

Asian, thanks for the history review, I used to like history a lot. I remember learning all that about Alaska, and one of my best friends lives in Fairbanks so I have a tiny bit of insight into the way of life there as well.

I really do remember learning that Alaska became a state because of its energy. Either the history book was wrong or my teacher, but that’s what I was taught, lol. Though it’s hard to imagine that the USA figured out Alaska had one of the highest sources of energy in the world only a decade or so after it was bought from Russia.

Also, wiki:
“The area that became Alaska was purchased from the Russian Empire after Congress concluded its resources could be vitally important to the nation’s future growth.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska

dunno.

#332 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 2:02 pm

#282 I see we have another one with their head between their legs trying to see things from Bo’s point of view. Well now that you are down there they all are the same aren’t they they all stink!

#333 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 2:03 pm

And by the way, the McCain appearance in Miami was a GOP fundraiser, not a fundraiser for the MCCain campaign. If you recall, Obama was asked by the DNC to help them out with fundraising and he flatly refused.

#334 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:04 pm

DANCES WITH PUMAS – FINALLY FINALLY – I found the Florida TV stations for you to post above – have to advise though that every letter I wrote – they came back and asked me for MY Florida telephone number to comfirm that I lived in the area —-Bradenton
Bradenton Herald
(941) 748-0411
cwille@bradenton.com

Charlotte Harbor
Charlotte Sun
(941) 206-1000
letters@sun-herald.com

Daytona
Daytona Beach News Journal
(386) 252-1511
letters@news-jrnl.com

Fort Lauderdale
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
(954) 356-4000
letters@sun-sentinel.com

Fort Myers
Fort Myers News-Press
239-335-0233
dplazas@news-press.com

Fort Walton Beach
Northwest Florida Daily News
(850) 863-1111
jims@nwfdailynews.com

Gainesville
Gainesville Sun
(352) 374-5075
cunninr@gvillesun.com

Jacksonville
Florida Times Union
(904) 359-4111
letters@jacksonville.com

Lakeland
Lakeland Ledger
(863)802-7000
voice@theledger.com

Melbourne
Florida Today
321-242-3500
letters@floridatoday.com

Miami
Miami Herald
(305) 350-2111
HeraldEd@MiamiHerald.com

Naples
Naples Daily News
239-262-3161
letters@naplesnews.com

Ocala
Ocala Star Banner
(352) 867-4100
osbletters@starbanner.com

Orlando
Orlando Sentinel
(407) 420-5000
insight@orlandosentinel.com

Panama City
Panama City News-Herald
850-747-5000
news@pcnh.com

Pensacola
Pensacola News Journal
(850) 435-8500
cwernicke@pnj.com

Sarasota
Sarasota Herald Tribune
(941) 361-4800
wendy.dial@heraldtribune.com

St. Petersburg
St. Petersburg Times
(727) 893-8111
http://www.sptimes.com/letters

Stuart
Treasure Coast News
(772) 287-1550
tcnletters@scripps.com

West Palm Beach
Palm Beach Post
(561) 820-4100
letters@pbpost.com

Tampa
Tampa Tribune
(813) 259-7600
tribletters@tampatrib.com
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MURPHY – Politico poll is now 73 Obama – 27 McCain – obots at work again.

#335 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 2:04 pm

328 Godzilla

If you watch the video, Audacity of Democracy, on last night’s blog, you will know which gender Murphy is…

Look for the one wearing the cowboy hat or baseball cap . ;)

#336 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 2:05 pm

Sorry if already posted:

Major “Hillraiser” to endorse McCain/Palin today.

“The McCain-Palin campaign announced that a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter who is a member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee will endorse John McCain at a press conference at the Capitol Hill Club today, September 17th.”

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/09/prominent-hillraiser-and-democratic.html

#337 hillaryistheone on 09.17.08 at 2:05 pm

#240 jody in florida, If you will notice that it usually takes a number of votes before it will tally, or a number of minutes.

I have played with these polls before. When they let you vote mutiple times you can’t believe the totals.

BO fans set on these polls…it is their job.

#338 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 2:05 pm

#323 DancesWithPumas

I think newspaper inserts would be wonderful, but wouldn’t it be really difficult to try and get them to all the newspapers. I’m sure we could hit all the big ones, but no one I know buys those. People around here just read their home-town paper.

Sorry for being difficult, but everywhere I go there are Oboy signs. I am constantly sending people I know articles and telling them what I know, but they act like I am crazy. They listen to the MSM and it drives me insane.

#339 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:06 pm

# 122 NObamaDem

The videos you’re looking for have/had been posted on the Clinton Dems web site. Check out the Action Center for the link.

I wish others had those videos and not just Clinton Dems. They are really crucial and it seems wierd that others don’t have them.

Murphy – Any way to try to get a hold of those videos for PUMApac, as well?

#340 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 2:07 pm

#282 dreffein on 09.17.08 at 1:35 pm

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Ok , who left the door open again downstairs?

#341 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:07 pm

Murphy, seriously? The New Yorker? I saw the cover recently of a cartoon of John McCain drinking a martini, playing the boardgame Monopoly in a tuxedo, like he was a smarmy richie who thinks this is all a game, and the background shows Cindy looking like the step-mother from Cindarella at the foot of a gold guilded master staircase.

lol

#342 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 2:08 pm

I think this is originating from FOX (?)

Here is the new spin buster to find out about news, etc.

http://spinspotter.com/home

#343 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 2:08 pm

Bobram
Cool! Will upload this afternoon when I am home from my day job.

Happy post birthday!
———————————–
KarlaforHillary,
You’re not being difficult. We’re brainstorming Good point about the newspapers.
Maybe a single sheet mailing through the post office like the rest of the junk mail we get?

#344 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 2:09 pm

323, DWP, I just looked up the cost of running an ad for one month on Cable TV in, for example, Ohio, a Clinton Hotbed. Starting from October 6 to November 3rd (right before election day) it would cost $21,000. That is a good price. The ad would be on Bravo, CNN, Headline News, Fox News, CNBC, FX, Home and Garden, Lifetime, TNT, USA, Tru TV, MSNBC, TV Land and a couple of others. So it can be affordable if you go to the right places.

#345 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 2:09 pm

#270 NewOrleansPuma

I am with you 100%:

A former POW calling out a man-child violator of The Logan Act seems like a powerful strategy to bring down The Pretender.

Will participate in any/all PROWLS to get this issue front and center.

ps that RIKA reference gave me a good laugh (suspect you scored a direct hit with it)!

#346 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:10 pm

BILLIEJO – I have tried to post on the McCain site the following information but I guess my computers browser is as old as I am – will not let me do it – several people thought last night that Scarlets information was critical for the Republicans to know – and since you advised you have posted other things on their site would you be so kind to do this one as well – pretty please with sugar on it???? Besides – it would be nice to know that the Republicans are doing something – anything – like we Pumas are…

Obama supporters drown out media messages opposing their candidate

(Chicago Tribune (KRT) Via Acquire Media NewsEdge) Much of Barack
Obama’s political success can be traced to a database listing contact
information for millions of people, a tool that has proven invaluable
in raising record sums of money and organizing a national volunteer
network.

Now Obama’s presidential campaign is increasingly using the list to
beat back media messages it does not like, calling on supporters to
flood radio and television stations when opponents run anti-Obama ads
or appear on talk shows.

It did so as recently as Monday night when it orchestrated a massive
stream of complaints on the phone lines of Tribune Company-owned WGN
in Chicago when the radio station hosted author David Freddoso, who
has written a controversial book about the Illinois Democrat.

Called the Obama Action Wire, the latest use of the database is
proving yet another new and potentially powerful tactic in the closing
weeks of a campaign that has already been dominated by Internet-based
messages and media.

More at:

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/16/3654849.htm

#347 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 2:11 pm

Dances,

Yep, I think a single-sheet mailing through the post office would be good, really good.

#348 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 2:11 pm

kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:02 pm Asian, thanks for the history review, I used to like history a lot. I remember learning all that about Alaska, and one of my best friends lives in Fairbanks so I have a tiny bit of insight into the way of life there as well.
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I doubt we had a clue about Alaska’s energy resources when it became a state. But, I remember that when Alaska was originally acquired by the US it was mocked.

William Seward was Lincoln’s and Johnson’s Secretary of State. Seward negotiated a deal with Russia to buy Alaska from them (it was theirs at the time) for the whopping sum of $7.2 million in 1867. The press and Seward’s critics dubbed Alaska as “Seward’s folly”, and ridiculed the deal without mercy.

Good thing we have leaders that can see further than their nose on their faces.

#349 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 2:11 pm

CAREFUL, #282 dreffein, the PUMAs on this site know how to hunt!!

#350 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 2:14 pm

Gotta go for now. Talk to you all later.

#351 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:14 pm

@341 cinderella* oops

k, be back later

#352 mick on 09.17.08 at 2:15 pm

#326 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 1:59 pm

UGH!! You are right Grizzly, it’s this kind of bad journalism that drives me crazy. Our country is in big trouble when the MSM is getting its talking points from places like HuffPo and DailyKos.

Here’s one example of what they post on Huffington Post after reading the false information.

“NOT ONLT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY DID MCCAIN TAKE THE FED MONEY IF HE WAS GOING TO KEEP FUNDRAISING AND IS ANYONE WATCHING HIM”

Clueless!!

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“Man – that’s about the biggest pile of disinformation I have seen on this site yet. The Streisand/Hollywood event was INDEED last night. There was a different Hollywood event he and I believe Michelle attended before the GOP convention.

Careful where you get your news from. Even the CBS Chicago station is reporting about last night’s event. “

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.hollywood.2.819585.html

#353 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 2:16 pm

#296 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 1:43 pm

How come PUMAs aren’t running advertisements? We should be running ads in some of the swing states. I think that having Democrats rebel against their candidate is something powerful and may be the nail in the coffin. I work in the industry and I know where to go to air ads for cheap. We need anti-Obama ads on the air. People need to know that PUMA is here and still in full force. What do you all think?
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What is cheap? It’s all about money not about value.

#354 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:17 pm

Thank you DWP – I FEEL a year older as well – hang over and all LOL :)

#355 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:18 pm

ahhh, one more tid bit about Alaska. K, I’ll be back later.

“The United States completed the purchase on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million at 2 cents per acre, about 5 cents per hectare. When adjusted for inflation, the total sum paid equates to approximately $360 million in 2008 dollars.The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized territory on May 11, 1912 and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.”

#356 JackOkie on 09.17.08 at 2:19 pm

#279 DANCESWITHPUMAS

For a few years during the ’90s I was the single parent coordinator for my church. We have a large outreach to folks who have been divorced or are in the throes of one. Our singles group generally runs 300-400 members, with “Divorce Adjustment Workshops” for adults, teens and elementary school aged kids.

I remember one spring we were having a picnic, and I was getting to know a couple of women newcomers and their kids. One of the little girls was about 3 or 4, blonde, cute as a button, sitting on the blanket wearing these heart-shaped sunglasses. Her mom told me her husband had bugged out to Houston, and was laying low. Looking at that little girl, my heart ached. I just could not get my mind around how anyone could abandon her, no matter how tough it got.

After a few years I learned that many men are tough in the things they choose – sports, pain, endurance, physical stuff. But confronted with an emotional mess, they are the worst kind of coward. Single moms are the most courageous people I’ve even encountered – yes, even more than our brave troops, because the single mom has to keep it up for months, even years.

The opposite side of the coin is those fathers who stuck around and did their best to meet their responsibilities. I saw too many women try to punish their ex with their kids – playing games with visitation, bad-mouthing and lying about the father, etc.

Bottom line: Better know who you’re marrying beforehand.

#357 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 2:20 pm

353 Billie Jo, in my earlier post I said that I found to advertise in a hotbed Hillary state like Ohio (at least part of it) would only be $21,000 and the ad would be everywhere, so cost and value is counted.

#358 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:21 pm

Arianna Huffington is dumber than a turd! McCain can raise campaign funds but NOT for him, only for RNC. He made a commitment of 5 fund raising events for the RNC.

NObama is totally a different matter, he must raise $100 million a MONTH all the way to October. The DNC is FLAT BROKE! NObama made DNC a promise he will raise the money if he’s the nominee. A day or so ago Harry Reid asked NObama if he could give $10 million to help increase numbers of Democrats in the senate, NObama told Reid, NO. The Democratic Party is in TROUBLE……..BIG TROUBLE!

#359 Pretjene on 09.17.08 at 2:21 pm

I am sick of fighting with Obama lovers, I keep having to lower my standards, they attack without any basis of the issues, here is what I wrote on a post attacking Sarah Palin for hunting!

I am just astonished on the people who are on Sarah Palin for hunting…

WHICH of you eat a complete vegan diet? DID you know that cattle are slaughtered by a dull bolt being driven into their skull while they stand in a hold gate? Did you know that pigs are strung up by their hindquarters and their throats slashed? AND a shotgun is inhumane? Let me tell you, wolves are killed in Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and most states to keep the numbers down, they attack livestock, and even children, did you know that alligators are killed in Florida because otherwise they would multiple like rodents….

AND the CHINESE and VIETNAMESE eat DOGS…yes, our little furbabies are on the menu! You can see footage of Chinese clubbing dogs to death for the menu during the Olympics, these are served in Native restaurants there in China.

The French and British eat horse…

SO, now Sarah Palin looks so barbaric! Give me a break….I live in Texas, we hunt, we also like steak…big deal….IF there were NO HUNTERS animal species would starve and be over populated, which is a worse death to starve or be shot? I am also AMERICAN INDIAN this is my country you people are fighting over! THIS is my ancestors land before the Europeans or Africans got on it! WE survived and lived on the Buffalo….the white man came along and killed the Buffalo just for sport. The PALINS eat ELK, and deer, and fish….WHICH of you eat SALMON, that is caught mostly in Alaska!

KILLING babies all the way up till their due dates is ACCEPTABLE, that is a CHOICE….who gives that baby a choice? At least a deer or Elk can run, they have some decision…the baby gets NONE….

All of you in your judgement of Palin for being a mother to a Downs baby, for being a MOTHER period, or for her daughter taking responsibility for her pregnancy ( which includes KEEPING not just KILLING a baby) ought to re examine what you are saying….IF you eat any MEAT or ANY cheese or EGGS you contribute DAILY to the slaughter of an animal…..

IF we did not kill or eat any animals wild or domestic we would be over run with animals….

Rabbits breed like every 21 days….and have litters as big as 12…

NONE of you can bring Obama’s platform on the economy forward because he doesn’t have one except to raise all taxes across the board….

ASK yourself while you are talking about the middle class, WHO gets the blunt of a tax increase when CORPORATIONS are overtaxed? GUESS WHAT? Jobs are cut, pensions cut, retirement suspended, and wages dropped for the CORPORATIONS to HANDLE the BURDEN of higher taxation! STORES are closed, people laid off! WALMART is a perfect example, they have already said that IF Obama’s tax increases are passed they will have to cut benefits and pay scale and jobs, and raise prices to compensate, its SIMPLE economics….

HATE BUSH fine….BUT to blame PALIN and MCCAIN when they are their own people is like blaming Obama for Bill Clintons Whitehouse affair!

THINK….IF no animal died right now from this point forward what would happen?

Go to Cuba and see all the poor diseased dogs and cats roaming the streets, you would want them put to sleep if you saw that, see a herd of deer starving, the young dying because their is not enough food to support the herd, you would then KNOW that nature HAS a BALANCE and that includes hunting for food and sport!

#360 murphy on 09.17.08 at 2:22 pm

Big PROWL on the way –

Let’s make some NOISE today!

#361 murphy on 09.17.08 at 2:24 pm

kat in your hat #341 — yep, that’s the one. I think they were trying to equal the Obamas as Muslim/BLT Terrorists cover that caused such an outrage amongst the Blogger Boiz in July (or was it August?)

The article is not satire though — a pretty straight-up profile of Cindy. I found it fascinating.

#362 michelle47 on 09.17.08 at 2:24 pm

SLYT2, sorry I posted and ran, here you go…

http://www.toledocitypaper.com/

It is on page 8…But the cover says 96 hours in Denver.

#363 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:25 pm

Sorry if this is a repeat – went back to Post #298 and did not see any mention of the below:

Gallup Daily: Obama 47%, McCain 45%
Obama gains an edge
September 17, 2008The Sept. 14-16 Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows Barack Obama with 47% support among registered voters, and John McCain with 45%; although not a statistically significant lead for Obama, this marks the first time since the week of the Republican National Convention that McCain has not held at least a slight edge.More …

#364 michelle47 on 09.17.08 at 2:25 pm

Oops that didn’t work, sorry still trying to learn how to post a link….

#365 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:26 pm

RE: ADS, THE MEDIA, THE SWING STATES (Oh Boy!)

1. I think it will all boil down the swing states.

2. I think it will all come down to independents and Dems still sitting on the fence. The challenge there is knowing who those folks are, but there are probably ways to to some targeted things in terms of analysis of demographics, swing state areas, etc.

3. Perhaps now is a good time to consider partnering up with The Denver Group re: ads since that’s been their primary tactic since their inception. Why reinvent the wheel or duplicate efforts. Perhaps a good juncture to see what they have planned and in the works.

4. I’d forget about trying to convince any Obama supporter to feel otherwise. It seemed impossible during the primaries when the other choice (Clinton) was at least in the same party. Now it’s a million times harder cause Obama’s been nominated and those who support him automatically feel like the only other choice is McCain, which they surely aren’t going to go for.

Just a few thoughts….

#366 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:27 pm

bobram

I don’t pay attention to national polls, but I watch state by state polls like a hawk. We don’t have national election, all elections are local.

#367 mick on 09.17.08 at 2:28 pm

#359 Pretjene on 09.17.08 at 2:21 pm

Great post Pretjene, but you are wasting your valuable time arguing with these Obot idiots.

#368 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 2:29 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

PUMAs, you had yesterday off, so we are making up for it today. You have 2 emails and a lot of work to do.

Get to it and then come back here and brag. Be “SWIFT” about it.

Mama

#369 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:29 pm

TO ANYONE CONTACTING ALICE GERMOND AND/OR STATE DNC RE: CONVENTION TALLIES

I’d recommend contacting the Obama campaign as well with any e-mails or faxes you’re sending with these requests for numbers. I say this because:

1. The Obama campaign and the DNC are just about one and the same entity at this point.

2. Obama spoke early on in the primaries about his desire to make government more transparent. Well, he can start now and cut through the red tape run around that we’ve all been getting and assist in making the numbers “transparent”!

#370 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 2:29 pm

#346 bobram:

the interesting one is against Jerome Corsi author of The Obama Nation. They are asking the Nobama supporters to send emails critical of this book. Mr. Corsi said he will stand behind that book and every note in it. The book proves one thing Nobama will distort the truth or out and out lie to serve his purpose and make him look good !

#371 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

ahhhh, I am trying to leave and came back for that NY Post link.

Saw your post Grizzly, thanks.

I still remember being taught that Alaska became a state because of its energy though.

#372 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

Rush Limbaugh giving a detailed explanation of how the Obots used Community Agitator intimidation and white-guilt-pressure-tactics to STEAL the caucuses!

#373 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

Interesting perspective from a UK news source, calling Joe Biden a “Hollywood sock-puppet”. Wonder if Obama’s selection of Biden was influenced by the Hollywood support that Biden garnered.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/08/25/obama-picks-hollywood-sock

“Obama picks Hollywood sock-puppet for running mate

Anti-pirate, anti-privacy, anti-encryption, not too sure about net neutrality.

By Nick Farrell: Monday, 25 August 2008, 10:15 AM

BARACK OBAMA has chosen one of the most rabid pro-music and film industry senators in the business to be his running mate in the forthcoming presidential elections.

Joe Biden has been selected as Obama’s choice for vice presidential candidate over the weekend.

While his boss might have glowing credentials on technology, Biden has spent most of his career allied with the FBI and copyright holders. He ranks toward the bottom of CNET’s Technology Voters’ Guide, and has come up with some of the worst anti-privacy legislation.

Biden has been one of Hollywood and the recording industry’s biggest fans and has been working to expand copyright laws. In 2002 he tried to make it a felony to trick certain types of devices into playing unauthorized music or executing unapproved computer programs. The law was caned by almost every technology outfit in the land and was quietly dropped.

Later he wrote to the Justice Department demanding that it use taxpayer money to do the work of the RIAA and MPAA to drag P2P users into court. Fortunately this was ignored by the DoJ.

Last year, Biden sponsored an RIAA-backed bill aimed at restricting Americans’ ability to record and play back individual songs from satellite and Internet radio services. This was in support of his chums at the RIAA who were suing satellite radio companies at the time.

Biden has refused to answer questions on technology. This might have something to do with the fact he supports Internet taxes and censoring libraries and schools, which is a wee bit different from Obama’s official stance.

He has also sponsored the anti-privacy Violent Crime Control Act which was anti-encryption and demanded users turn over encryption keys to the government. It was a reaction to this bill, which failed, which lead to the creation of PGP.

In 2001 he took the FBI’s stance during the debates on the Patriot Act although this changed last year when Democrats wanted to embarrass President Bush over warrantless wiretapping. At the time his conversion on the road to Damascus was seen as trying to court liberals in his party at a point where he was thinking of running for President himself.

He seemed to go back to his own ways recently when he demanded the government spend $1 billion in US tax dollars so police can monitor peer-to-peer networks for illegal activity.

As far as Net neutrality is concerned, Biden has stood back claiming it was not necessary to have laws to protect it.

Fortunately the history of US Vice-presidents usually indicates that they are not there to actually do anything unless the President is shot, or caught assisting in a burglary. “

#374 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

Asian4Hillary – I WATCH all polls – as I am a statistican or was by trade – and especially when one candidate is on top for a great period of time and then it flip flops and then goes back again – I try to analyze what made the flip flop – the economy – statements made to the press – etc.

#375 mick on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

#358 Asian4Hillary,

Spot on girlfriend!! :-)

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#358 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:21 pm

Arianna Huffington is dumber than a turd! McCain can raise campaign funds but NOT for him, only for RNC. He made a commitment of 5 fund raising events for the RNC.

NObama is totally a different matter, he must raise $100 million a MONTH all the way to October. The DNC is FLAT BROKE! NObama made DNC a promise he will raise the money if he’s the nominee. A day or so ago Harry Reid asked NObama if he could give $10 million to help increase numbers of Democrats in the senate, NObama told Reid, NO. The Democratic Party is in TROUBLE……..BIG TROUBLE!

#376 ontherocks on 09.17.08 at 2:31 pm

post # 359.
Nicely put. I personally do not eat wild game, red meat or pork; but I understand the balance of nature.
I happen to agree with you.

#377 murphy on 09.17.08 at 2:32 pm

oh, that reminds me — someone in comments (I’m sorry I can’t remember who) asked me if I have something against vegetarians bc I’ve made at least 2 snarky references to vegetarianism recently.

I can see why you might feel that way, and I’m sorry for lazy writing.

I love vegetarians. My 16-year old is a committed vegetarian and I am an imperfect one.

I absolutely loathe industrial agriculture, which I believe has contributed to the rise in breast cancer and other mysterious illnesses, as well as childhood obesity and diabetes.

I hate how nitrogen and other chemicals are DESTROYING our land and putting our farmers in mortal danger.

I hate that only upper middle class people can AFFORD to buy safe and healthy and nutritious low-fat food.

I also am a dabbler in Buddhism (nope, I also dont have anything against dabblers — I’m a dabbler at lots of things) and am sickened by the animal cruelty inherent in industrial agriculture.

#378 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 2:32 pm

LOL POOKIE YOU CAN SMELL ABOT A MILE AWAY!! :-)

#379 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 2:32 pm

273 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 1:25 pm

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I’m a democrat, and I work in an environmental field, and I get it. I say drill, drill, drill. It’s not going to alter gas prices or anything like that, but it sure as heck is going to make us less dependant on foreign oil and all the potential consequences that go along with that dependency. To just keep talking about it or debating about it is getting nothing done and threatenting our national security AND our economy more and more every day. We can do it cleanly, actually more cleanly then pumping it into a tanker and shipping it across the oceans. The risks of spills froim platforms are minute compared to the risks of one of those tankers cracking open. And the process is so very highly regulated now. Does everyone realize what would happen to our nation if one of those ‘major’ sources of oil suddenly stopped? Everything, and I mean everything that we produce nowadays uses oil. We need to drill AND get other sources like wind, solar, and others moving in the pipeline. Use our OWN resources. The time for debating this issue has long since passed. We’ve been debating it for what 30-40 years now. No more talk – we need action now.

#380 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:33 pm

bobram – in my view the polls are settling down to the same baseline they were before both conventions. i expect obama will continue to have a slight edge over mc cain, if not more so now due to what’s going on in the economy and mc cain’s less than stellar ability to address it. add to that, the media’s vetting of palin which hasn’t been pretty, and you’ve got an equation for obama pulling this out. not a big win, but he only needs to hit 270, and as of a few days ago, he was awfully close. the swing states hold all the power.
just my perspective.

#381 turndownobama on 09.17.08 at 2:33 pm

“24% of those who backed Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary now support John McCain, up from 14% on August 26.” This statistic, buried deep within Quinnipiac University polling out of Florida is a reversal of the trend that we’ve been seeing all summer.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Obama-Will-Face-a-Tough-Time-Keeping-Clinton-Voters-In-The-Face-of-Palin-Power/Article/200809315100627
No registration, easy post.

#382 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 2:37 pm

#375 mick on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

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But Mick, I cannot understand how the DNC can be broke…I keep sending them all our Puma cash everytime they ask! Along with my personal messages of “support” skrawled across their remittance slip. :lol:

#383 murphy on 09.17.08 at 2:38 pm

bellecat #232 — I’ve never heard that expression before:

“things fall be their own weight”

I love it — thank you.

#384 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 2:39 pm

#346 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:10 pm

BILLIEJO – I have tried to post on the McCain site the following information but I guess my computers browser is as old as I am – will not let me do it
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I actually don’t put most of these things on the McCain website I put them on the Drudge Report!

http://www.drudgereport.com/

It is a right winged website that you can copy and paste into a box and don’t need to worry about putting in all your contact info first. I see many of the things that have been passed on the blogs have made it on their site. Many Repubs look at this site, and it is getting better at covering the election and less info then before the election of the star bs.

I would like to remind PUMAs that our getting more and more informed is great, but we also need to inform people that are not PUMAs, we can not do this alone. Find one or a few sites you can post factual articles on and keep it up. We are fighting the liberal news blackouts and this is one way to at least reach others.

I am posting this important article and also the link to what is on BO’s site.

#385 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:40 pm

Anna7000 – you are absolutely right on – thats why I have been watching ALL polls and expected exactly the same – and the key will be certain states – I am compiling a listing hopefully will be done by tomorrow or Friday at the latest regarding the States that Obomi HAS to lose – those will be the ones we need to put our attention to newspapers and other sources – at this moment – Obomi has 4 States in his pocket that have good amount of electoral votes – most of his states are smaller ones like RI, VT, DE etc – New York, California, Illinois and Massachusetts has helped him considerably. More on this later.

#386 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:40 pm

LATEST RASMUSSEN ELECTORAL MAP

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update

As you can see, the four “toss up” states are all colored red to signify those are states that traditionally have gone Republican. And, there’s another red state now “leaning Dem”. For those of us against BO, it’s not a pretty picture. Close, but with Obama in the lead.

#387 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 2:40 pm

PROWL DONE!

Now let’s see what we can do to bring our PUMA voices to The Ones admittedly traitorous visit to Iraq, in direct violation of The Logan Act!

#388 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 2:41 pm

I just received a email from Bo’s campaign and my name was wrong until I realized it was the name I filled out the survey with last evening. They will answer to anything LOL

#389 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 2:42 pm

Meat is MURDER . Tasty, tasty murder . :) sorry , couldn’t help myself ..

#390 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 2:42 pm

((((((((( PROWL))))))))))

I did not receive one today?

#391 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:42 pm

BILLIEJO – Thank you – did not know that – will mark it into my fav file.

#392 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:43 pm

Now its on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WVVcv8izbY

#393 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 2:43 pm

Crap , when the e-mails in the prowls aren’t seperated by semi colons, I have to re do the whole thing – oh well – one done , working on the next ..

#394 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 2:44 pm

#386 Anna7000, if you look at the dates of when the data was taken to decide leaners, you’ll see that some of the dates are from before the republican convention.

#395 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:45 pm

Here’s more news….confirming NObama’s conversation with Foreign Minister of Iraq

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13897

#396 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:46 pm

BILLIEJO – are you sure DrudgeReport is Republican information — all I see is you know whos face on the home page and all articles about him and what he said and how he is going to change the world —- I did not drink the kool aide in fact I almost snapped off one of my puma paws getting out of the door as they were trying to slam in on me to lock me in – OUCH.

#397 john on 09.17.08 at 2:46 pm

McCain sweeps in $5 mil in Miami

Is is the Palin effect? Republican John McCain raised an estimated $5 million at the Intercontinental Hotel in Miami last night. It was his best fundraiser in Florida of the campaign.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/09/mccain-sweeps-i.html

#398 rosebud on 09.17.08 at 2:46 pm

I just took a survey from Disneyland ( I’m an annual pass holder), and at the end the let you write comments. This is what I wrote:
I think the Disney Corporation should let their subsidiaries and affiliates know that biased views may eventually hurt their parent company.

I know this is old news re: boycotting, and I did let the sponsors that I use know how I felt about the situation. I just figured I’d go down an avenue that was presented to me.

Gotta go make lunch for my baby chica, will read when she’s taking a nap….

#399 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 2:47 pm

Don’t know if this link was posted earlier. I am off to work. This was in the Chicago Tribune today and will start making Chicagoans rethink supporting *61.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-mediasep17,0,6325137.story

#400 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 2:47 pm

393 TexasTigresswhich prowl are you doing?

#401 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 2:49 pm

I personally support drilling wherever it is safe and feasible. While Congress is not allowing drilling where the oil and natural gas is, they are forcing companies to drill in places that pits the interests of the caribou with the health and safety of your neighbors. Texas is a good example.

Here in Texas, you do not necessarily own the space beneath your home. Those mineral rights are bought and sold separately. And Texas has very favorable laws for the oil and gas industry. If someone owns the mineral rights beneath your home, you cannot do much to stop them from getting it out.

A lot of land here in Texas could have been bought for a song 10 years ago. Since that time the population has grown and land that was once pasture is now residential.

North Texas reportedly sits on a large deposit of gas called the Barnett Shale. And gas companies are putting wells in anywhere they can. There is now active drilling going on in many residential areas, which is pretty much killing property values. The drilling uses enormous quantities of water which is in short supply already. And the extraction process brings up more than just gas – at the depths they are going, there are sizeable deposits of radioactive materials like radium. And salt. So they use up the water and expose residents to radioactive materials, heavy metals and saturate the topsoil with salt.

We are looking at that issue here, and are not happy about it. Some of these gas wells are going right next to public schools (or under them). A gas explosion from a well pretty much levels everything within a quarter mile.

So, if I’m looking at the possibility of giving a caribou gas, versus having our kids subjected to the risk of explosion or radioactive exposure, I am inclined to let the caribou fart a little more.

No one is paying much attention to this, because it is not a national issue. That, and the fact that these gas companies are throwing money around faster than an Obama advisor gets tossed under a bus.

Sorry for the rant.

#402 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 2:49 pm

1gypsy4mc The one Murphy just sent to us.

#403 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 2:49 pm

#393 TexasTigress hmm all my letters with through without any problems (so far at least) and I even got a automatic response back .

#404 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 2:50 pm

#397 John, notice how the article does not specifiy the date. I wouldn’t be surprise if the fundraiser was accomplished weeks ago.

#405 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:50 pm

INTERESTING TAKE ON THE STATE OF THE RACE

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/what_states_are_really_in_play.html

The author is the chief political correspondent for the American Thinker, which is an extraordinarily conservative publication. The piece has been printed on the Real Clear Politics site. However, he writes with honesty and fairness and I’ve read pieces he’s written that were very blunt in their assessment of the situation, even if it meant painting a less-than-rosey picture for his candidate(s).

#406 Heidi Li on 09.17.08 at 2:51 pm

Howard Dean is, as we speak, working the halls and backrooms and streets of Washington DC to ensure that he remains in power after this election. DNC leadership politicking is happening NOW. And just like the Kerry debacle did not bring good leadership, neither will a defeat or lame victory necessarily get Dean out.

Democrats For Principle Before Party wants to run an ad ASAP targeted at Washington DC insiders specifically addressing the need to clean house. But we must raise at least $3500 to do it. I’m sorry to be so blunt about money and I know there are a million causes and candidates seeking everybody’s. But if every PUMA pac person gave 5 dollars toward the new ad we’d be a long way to being able to run it. Marc Rubin and I have collaborated on the ad – just as we did on all The Denver Group ads, including the FDR one, which helped get national attention focused on putting Senator Clinton’s name in nomination. So we have a bit of a track record. But of course Dean, Pelosi, etc. made sure that the roll call was a sham, and now we need to get them to release their grip on the Democratic Party.

If you have 5 bucks, please consider donating. See http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/time-to-make-sure-the-the-washington-political-crowd-gets-it.html
to learn more.

Sorry to post at such length.

#407 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 2:51 pm

Florida SunSentinal.com
September 12

McCain will be back in the state next week. The schedule includes a Monday fund raiser at the Intercontinental Hotel in Miami.

#408 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 2:51 pm

393 TexasTigress

Ugh. I feel your pain.

My “real” email accounts don’t have a bbc function, unless I add the names to my address book, which would have to be added individually, and I will not do that. Therefore, I have to add the bcc code by hand to each email address… royal pain.

#409 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:52 pm

godzilla – thanks for pointing that out. it’s a crucial issue re: polling since different polls have different degress of lag time, frequency of polling etc. much appreciated!

#410 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:53 pm

John

Don’t you think its a bit strange over a week ago McCain was in Chicago and raised $5 million for 5 hours in NObama’s backyard?

#411 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 2:54 pm

408 DancesWithPumas it SUCKS , but it’s for a good cause :)

#412 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 2:54 pm

I finally just read this entire article and I am blown away by it. The NY Post writer, Amir Teheri has been getting death threats, and he says so at the end of the article, and he really makes his case against Obama and how he tried to stall withdrawal of GIs in Iraq–how he negotiated for our country and the war behind Bush’s back. He even says that lately Obama has been saying he wants to do exactly what we have been doing in Iraq for 5 years, but wants to get the kudos for all the hard work if he wins the WH. He also brings up how Biden wanted to carve Iraq into three sections and separate people by ethnicity/ religion. (Horrific idea, and Iraq is against it.)

OBAMA OBJECTS
BUT THE EVIDENCE SAYS I’M RIGHT
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_objects_129453.htm?page=0

#413 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 2:56 pm

#351pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 2:20 pm 353 Billie Jo, in my earlier post I said that I found to advertise in a hotbed Hillary state like Ohio (at least part of it) would only be $21,000 and the ad would be everywhere, so cost and value is counted.
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OHIO is so so important, no one wins the election without OHIO!
Maybe a fund raiser to advertise there, see how it goes…may be the straw that breaks the camels back!
Money is tough but if we really pony up we can do ONE ad. I will start with $100.00 if this is a go.
We can email rothchild for a few thou! :-)

#414 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 2:57 pm

Let’s hope this 527 ad gets TV time

#415 scarlet on 09.17.08 at 2:57 pm

Sebelius: Obama’s race ‘may be a factor’
By John Deeth 9/16/08 8:31 PM

IOWA CITY — Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius publicly considered the possibility that Sen. Barack Obama’s race might be a factor in this year’s presidential election during an appearance here Tuesday.

“Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American?” Sebelius asked in response to a question about why the election is so close. “That may be a factor. All the code language, all that doesn’t show up in the polls. And that may be a factor for some people.”

http://iowaindependent.com/5627/sebelius-obamas-race-may-be-a-factor

#416 michelle47 on 09.17.08 at 2:58 pm

Everyone seems to think Hillary pulled out of the rally, but maybe just maybe she was forced out of it by Obama and the dnc.

I think that is the likely scenario. Obama and his minions know she will not attack Palin, nor is it the place to do so, but by being at the same event and not railing against her it may look to her supporters that she is giving Palin the nod. Just my opinion……
And Obama cannot control her as he wishes in public when he is not in attendance, This is about Obama, not Hillary being in the same place as Palin.

#417 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 2:58 pm

Heidi – If you ever include the word “sorry” in one of your posts again, I’m going to have to come over there and yell at you! YOU? “Sorry?” Heidi, you’ve been an outstanding leader in this grassroots movement. Forget the sorry. I say: Thanks!

#418 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 2:58 pm

Heidi Li – I am grateful for your efforts and I am HAPPY to donate to such an effective cause . Thanks for the scoop .

#419 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 2:59 pm

411 TexasTigress
408 DancesWithPumas it SUCKS ,
but it’s for a good cause
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Eggszactly! Who needs sleep when you have a good cause?

#420 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 2:59 pm

#408 DancesWithPumas

TexasTigress

Ugh. I feel your pain.

Easy, free solution:

You could set up a free Windows Live Hotmail Account just for Powerrrrrr Prowling. The bcc function works beautifully with the cut-and-paste Prowl address lists.

I end up opening two windows, one with the PROWL and another with an e-mail to toggle back and forth with my pasted material — literally takes only seconds to do.

#421 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:00 pm

420 just.words…
#408 DancesWithPumas
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bless you…

#422 Heidi Li on 09.17.08 at 3:00 pm

Anna7000 – I take your point.

Meanwhile, because I believe in giving when I ask people to give, here’s a receipt for a donation I just made to PUMA pac :
Contributor:

Heidi

Confirmation Number: xxxxxx331H Placed on Sep. 17, 2008
Purpose Donation
amount
Thank you for giving us all a platform. $10.00 USD
Total Amount: $10.00 USD

#423 murphy on 09.17.08 at 3:00 pm

dwp #335

:-p

#424 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 3:01 pm

Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 2:53 pm John

Don’t you think its a bit strange over a week ago McCain was in Chicago and raised $5 million for 5 hours in NObama’s backyard?
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McCain CAN raise money for the RNC! He does attened fund raisers for the RNC!
The RNC has more in thier coffers than DNC! The dnc is a hurting………

#425 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:01 pm

just.words… cool – i’ll try it !

#426 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:02 pm

Email prowls done.

#427 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 3:03 pm

#374 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:30 pm

I WATCH all polls – as I am a statistican or was by trade – and especially when one candidate is on top for a great period of time and then it flip flops and then goes back again – I try to analyze what made the flip flop – the economy – statements made to the press – etc.
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I have a question for you…Do you believe the Bradley effect is true? If so, could it be worse for Obama when the polls show a dead heat?

Just part of one of many articles I saw….

“…But the way Obama lost California raises the specter of the dreaded Bradley Effect.

Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, an African-American Democrat, in 1982 unexpectedly lost his candidacy for governor of California. His defeat followed voters telling pollsters they prefer a black candidate and then voting the other way. In California’s primary last Tuesday, Obama lost by a landslide 10 percentage points after a late survey showed him ahead by 13 points and other polls gave him a smaller lead.

Was this presumed 20-point reversal caused by the Bradley Effect, which has worried Democratic leaders about Obama since he became an obstacle to Hillary Clinton’s majestic procession to the Oval Office? ”
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What do you think?

#428 JeffInNC on 09.17.08 at 3:03 pm

I hate to break it to you but we aren’t their base.

#429 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:04 pm

SheWhoRunsWithHoneyStick Be careful that you don’t get into any more “sticky” situations!!

#430 Flasunshiner on 09.17.08 at 3:05 pm

Prowl sent.

A few weeks ago I told my father I am a PUMA. He e-mailed me that he now has PUMA on his buddies list.

I am thrilled. He is a conservative republican, but he respects our position.

I was also delighted when a friend of mine, who works for a federal agency, asked me for PUMA’s website info. He also admires the PUMA stance.

Thought Murphy and all the other wonderful PUMA’s would be happy to hear that PUMA power is spreading. Both my father and my friend live in Alabama.

#431 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 3:06 pm

Note to Sebelius:

ENOUGH!!!

If The One WASN’T part African-American we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

No white male with a resume soooooooooooooooooo thin would have made it out of the Senate after only 143 days (especially after having pledged NOT to do so on Meet The Press, because, in his own words, “…[he] would not be ready”…).

#432 atypical on 09.17.08 at 3:06 pm

#68 Just.words…
I saw that column in my morning paper and I forced myself to read it after the part about BO’s being cool, firm, and permanently unruffled. OMG, but I really hooted at the last paragraph:
“The candidate who said those words the night he won the Iowa caucuses did pretty well. But whatever the outcome of this presidential election, that candidate is no longer in the race.”
(michaelgerson@cfr.org)
Well, yes, the person who could articulate the Democratic position and had some answers about how problems could be solved is no longer in the race; she somehow lost!!!

#433 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 3:08 pm

Murphy,

It seems that Cindy McCain was raised as an only child. Her father supported his x wife and daughter but stopped benefits in his will at the time of his death. Apparently he thought of Cindy as his only child. Cindy’s mom had a 10 year old child from a previous marriage when she married Cindy’s father. The article didn’t mention much about her so she may not have had much of a relationship with Cindy and her father or maybe she was raised by her biological father. Anyway I think that explains why Cindy says she was an only child. My son’s father had children by other mothers but my son was not raised with them and considers himself an only child too since he was raised alone by me. Anyway here is the article where I got my information:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

#434 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:09 pm

“SheWhoRunsWithHoneyStick”

lol hahahaha

#435 mick on 09.17.08 at 3:10 pm

#397 John

Thanks for the link John.

Clearly, this fundraiser was McCain raising funds for the Republican National Committee but DailyKos and Huffington Post are posting misleading information to make people think that McCain is pocketing these funds for his campaign. And they’re posting old articles from August too.

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#397 john on 09.17.08 at 2:46 pm

McCain sweeps in $5 mil in Miami
Is is the Palin effect? Republican John McCain raised an estimated $5 million at the Intercontinental Hotel in Miami last night. It was his best fundraiser in Florida of the campaign.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/09/mccain-sweeps-i.html

#436 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 3:10 pm

#425 TexasTigress

I highly recommend this approach — you’ll feel like an UberPuma once you are Powerrrrrrrrrrr Prowlin’.

Fairly self-explanatory, but let me know if you need any help.

#437 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:10 pm

I think from what I found that her siblings are deceased too.

#438 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:11 pm

half-siblings

#439 john on 09.17.08 at 3:11 pm

But Obama’s staff said McCain was on shaky ground, as he was flush with more than five million dollars after his own big fundraising event in Miami late Monday.

“I don’t know who showed up in Florida where he raised five million dollars, but my guess is that it wasn’t a lot of nurses, firefighters and police officers,” Obama’s top strategist David Axelrod told reporters.

Senator McCain raised an impressive 5.1 million dollars at his own fundraising dinner late Monday in Florida, the Republican’s campaign said
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080917/pl_afp/usvoteobamafundraising_080917141720

McCain Addresses State Of Economy In Florida Stops
Some of those American workers met McCain with protests at Miami’s Intercontinental Hotel, where he has a fundraiser planned for Monday night.

No rallies or town hall meetings are scheduled for Monday evening. The event is strictly a fundraiser in which some donors are spending $50,000 a plate to have dinner with McCain.
http://www.local10.com/news/17480045/detail.html

Pretty good dough: John McCain speaks 10 minutes, gets $5.1 million

Here’s a quick lesson in modern political math:

Tonight, Sen. John McCain spoke for 10 minutes at the Intercontinental Hotel in Miami to a small crowd of people, who were a little less rich by the end of the session.

It was, of course, a presidential campaign fundraiser, this time for the Republican Party.

The attendees, who dined buffet style because there were only a few tables scattered around, had each paid $50,000 to be there, according to the pool reporter’s notes.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/mccain-money.html

#440 Notyoursweetie on 09.17.08 at 3:12 pm

McCain takes lead in Hominid simulations
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/mccain-takes-lead-in-hominid-elections-simulations/

#441 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 3:12 pm

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

Forester was a major donor for Clinton earning her the title as a Hillraiser for helping to raise at least $100,000 for the New York Democratic senator’s failed presidential bid.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don’t like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.

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Maybe we should add a list to the action center of all the Clinton supporters that are going to Repub. for a protest vote? Dances………?

#442 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:12 pm

434 DancesWithPumas – I don’t think she sees it yet!!

#443 atypical on 09.17.08 at 3:13 pm

424 HP Boston
I had the pleasure of stuffing an envelope for Obama this AM, have another one for the DNC to go. Funny thing, I noticed that the envelopes they are sending out now are quite a bit smaller than they used to be. The sides of the envelopes are sealed on the inside so that there is just about room for a check. (never mind the people, just get their checks)

#444 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:14 pm

Just words – ok , now who do I give my new e-mail to for the prowls ? mama?

Gypsy and Dances – I’m watching you two ….. ;)

#445 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 3:14 pm

#432 atypical

Well said, but…

It’s not really losing, when the game has been rigged!!

I’m with Sarah Palin on this — Hillary “showed a lot of grit and class with all that they threw at her.”

#446 MJT on 09.17.08 at 3:14 pm

Did anyone see the VIEW on ABC when John and Cindy McCain were on the show a few days ago? I watched and was shocked at the total disrespect those women showed the McCains. I wanted to vomit at the outrage. Guess Cindy McCain was as disgusted as I was. Here is an article and video on what Cindy said:

http://www.popeater.com/television/article/cindy-mccain-practically-calls-view/176975

(Cindy McCain Practically Calls ‘View’ Hosts Vultures)

#447 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:15 pm

TexasTigress

SheWhoRunsWithHoneyStick

Be careful that you don’t get into any more “sticky” situations!!

#448 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 3:15 pm

PROMISES PROMISES

Someone please tell me… if he were to be elected where in the world is Obama going to get the money for universal health care, early education or clean energy.

The federal government has committed hundreds of billions of dollars this year to stimulate the economy, rescue failing Bear Stearns Cos. and American International Group Inc., and take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It may extend hundreds of billions more to buy distressed mortgage debt, prop up Detroit automakers and stave off recession.

Those expenses, on top of a 2009 budget deficit projected to approach $500 billion, will make it hard for Obama.

As for McCain he would also find it extremely difficult to cut taxes by $3.3 trillion over eight years.

I don’t know about you Democrats, but between the two candidates and their inevitable broken promises to come I can live and forgive the one who can’t deliver on tax cuts.

#449 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:16 pm

441 BillieJo

Now wouldn’t that be fun!

You did mean all the prominent Democrats, didn’t you?
Recruit some interested folks to develop a list and we’ll upload to the Action Center, and then add to it as we go!

#450 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:17 pm

446 MJT

ergo our boycott of The View.

http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html

#451 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 3:17 pm

#444 TexasTigress

Texas, you don’t have to do anything differently — just use the hotmail account exclusively for sending your PROWLS.

Remember the tip to have two windows open at the same time:

One with your e-mail that Mama and Murphy have to copy from and the other with the Hotmail account open to paste into.

#452 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:18 pm

MJT – If you go to the Action Center and look under “Boycotts” you’ll see a list of advertisers for “The View” if you want to write to any or all of them regarding your perspective about the show. I’d also recommend contacting the show, as well.

#453 Grizzly on 09.17.08 at 3:18 pm

Despicable news of the day:

Obots hack Palin’s personal e-mail account.

http://gawker.com/5051193/sarah-palins-personal-email-account-hacked

I hope someone goes to jail over this.

#454 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:19 pm

451 just.words… – aaaaahhhhhhh- ok , I see :)

#455 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:20 pm

TexasTigress
Gypsy and Dances – I’m watching you two …
———————————————
Would you happen to be MamaPuma in drag?
She’s watching me too.

Sometimes heightened awareness is misidentified as paranoia.

#456 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:20 pm

RE: KEEPING A RUNNING LIST OF “DEFECTORS”!

What would be the point of doing it? And, while they are out in the public eye announcing their decision, could we be creating an easy place for others to find such names to use just to hassle them? Just trying to figure out how such a list could help us and/or harm those on the list.

#457 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:20 pm

RE: KEEPING A RUNNING LIST OF “DEFECTORS”!

What would be the point of doing it? And, while they are out in the public eye announcing their decision, could we be creating an easy place for others to find such names to use just to hassle them? Just trying to figure out how such a list could help us and/or harm those on the list.

#458 SARTOM on 09.17.08 at 3:20 pm

#448 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 3:15 pm
PROMISES PROMISES

Someone please tell me… if he were to be elected where in the world is Obama going to get the money for universal health care, early education or clean energy.
>>>>>>

Fund raisers with the Hollywood STARS……

#459 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 3:23 pm

#359 Pretjene ,

WOW, Powerful post. :wink:

#460 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:23 pm

448 maxgrader
PROMISES PROMISES
—————————
These are the things ‘fairytales’ are made of.
Oops, forgot, “fairytales” is a racist term in The World According to Obiteme.

#461 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 3:23 pm

TexasTigress
Gypsy
Dances

I am watching you!!

#462 LandiPUMA on 09.17.08 at 3:24 pm

The Sarah Palin interview (first part) will be aired tonight on Hannity and Colmes.

Also Sean Hannity’s anti-BO radio program is on now (he’s talking about BO’s hypocrisies) and he’s going to have John McCain on today. His program is 12 to 3 EST and you can listen live NOW online:

http://www.hannity.com/article.asp?id=397001

#463 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:24 pm

oh godddddddd….

#464 bobram on 09.17.08 at 3:25 pm

#427 BillieJo – I have tried to post this 5 times and would not take – might be a sign from up above that I am going to be attacked over my comments – but you asked and this is my own personal opinion to your question:
I personally don’t think the Bradley effect applies to Obomi – (I personally Liked Bradley myself) – I truly believe that Obomi has a stout group of supporters as did our Hillary – and they will support him to the end no matter to what extent that will be – its scary – never have I seen anything quite like it – and I have run a campaign or two myself – you have the politicans who want him because they think they can control him – and then you have many – not all – but look at the voting percentage of AA that really sincerely think he can make a change and help their lives to be better – and who amonst us does not want someone to make our lives better for us – and then you have the others who do not like the Republican candidate – there are a lot of many many factors involved in this particular campaign – and like it or not and I don’t personally – he has a pretty good team of statisticans or at least he did in the primaries – and I am not talking about the illegal things that were done – but they knew exactly where he had to make his speeches to get his votes to get the most of delegates -

So put all that together and I guess I still did not give you the answer you needed – I say no – not the same.
Don’t everone yell at me for my answer – I testify with my right puma paw in the air I am a Hillary Supporter from the get go and want NOBAMA ever in the White House.

#465 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:26 pm

461 MamaPuma Hello there MamaPuma! How are you doing?

:oops:

#466 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 3:26 pm

This is MAMA

Get going on these prowls!!!

We are the people who held the DNC’s feet to the fire and the ones that are changing the face of Democracy in the USA.

That is only because you did all the work and wrote all the emails and made all the phone calls.

Now is the time to work even harder.

Anyone who did not receive a prowl should email me at MamaPuma@pumapac.org

MAMA

#467 atypical on 09.17.08 at 3:27 pm

415 Scarlet
Not only Sibelius saying “code language” of racists are making the race close, but Cafferty again this morning said that the the race is close because of racist issues. I’ll say it again, I don’t care if his mother is white, and his father is black. He is running this race as a black person purposefully so he can cry race whenever he wants. He is losing because he is an arrogant, unscrupulous excuse for a human being.

#468 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:27 pm

mama – that was perfect !

#469 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:28 pm

bobram – why in the world did you think your post would incur the wrath of anyone. i, for one, thought your post was very thoughtful and a very worthy addition to the discourse. you sound realistic, fair-minded and thoughtful.

#470 maxgrader on 09.17.08 at 3:29 pm

SARTOM, thank you.

#471 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:29 pm

468 TexasTigress
mama – that was perfect !
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That’s because Mama is perfect in all ways.
:roll:

#472 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:30 pm

Dances- butt kisser

#473 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:32 pm

bobram – why would anyone yell at you ??? Are you still drunk from the big bash ??? lay off the sauce !!! ;)

#474 atypical on 09.17.08 at 3:32 pm

I see in the internet news that Palin will be interviewed by Katie Couric. I shuddered when she gave interview #1 to ABC, but why does the McCain campaign continue to reward the MSM, especially CNN, when it’s easy to see that they haven’t been at all fair in their coverage. Why not choose someone who walks the walk?

#475 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:32 pm

472 TexasTigress
Dances- butt kisser
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Damn right!
If you knew Mama, like I know Mama, you’d be kissin’ up too!

#476 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:33 pm

To my mind, the ultimate expression of racism is when one person treats another differently because of their “race” (or any other “ism” factor). So, I turn Obama’s campaign’s cry of racism on its head: It would be racist to say I liked him, supported him, thought him worthy of the job of POTUS BECAUSE he is black.

Are there folks out there who won’t vote for Obama because he’s black? I’m sure there are. America is full of racist individuals, as it is full of those who wouldn’t vote for someone because they’re a woman, a Jew, a Muslim, a Catholic, etc, etc, etc. Racists and all other “ists” have always participated in elections, so this year will be no different.

However, to paint anyone and everyone who doesn’t support BO as racist is pitiful and profoundly desperate and offensive!

#477 bobram on 09.17.08 at 3:34 pm

Anna7000 – thank you for your kind comments – but I have to get busy now or Mama knows where I live – and I ain’t messing with Mama – even though I am old enough to be her Mother….LOL – Mama

#478 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:34 pm

Mama you look pretty .

#479 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:35 pm

Texas Tigress – You are cracking me up! Can’t wait to see how Dances outdoes you!

#480 Caracal Carrie on 09.17.08 at 3:35 pm

Texas butt kisser

#481 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:36 pm

“However, to paint anyone and everyone who doesn’t support BO as racist is pitiful and profoundly desperate and offensive!”
and racist in and of itself.

#482 bobram on 09.17.08 at 3:37 pm

Texas Tigress LOL :)

#483 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:37 pm

#478 TexasTigress
Mama you look pretty
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Is that the best you can do??

#484 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 3:37 pm

forget the butts and get on with the prowls!!!

#485 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:38 pm

My prowls are done mama :) – Shut up dances (lol)

#486 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:38 pm

RE: PALIN INTERVIEW(s)

Just a quick comment re: the Charlie Gibson interview: I saw a clip on link someone provided recently.

What was up with them being seated so on top of each other that when they had their legs crossed as both did, their feet barely touched. Are interviews with Obama set up quite that intimately? Seems like a certain physical boundary would signify respect and would also allow the person being interviewed some degree of physical comfort so they didn’t have to worry that if they re-crossed their legs or moved their foot even an inch it would bump the interviewer. Just couldn’t help but notice that. I know they were likely trying to keep them both in the camera frame, but it just seemed uncomfortably close.

#487 bobram on 09.17.08 at 3:38 pm

Mama is a strong woman – we need more like her – thank you Mama for watching over us all.

Now before I get my behind smacked – off to other sites doing my projects for ya’ll

#488 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:39 pm

SheWhoRunsWithHoneyStick

Mama, my email prowls are done because I know how to use bcc!

:lol: :lol:

#489 hillfan4mccain on 09.17.08 at 3:39 pm

Murphy, Only child;
I have a sister 17years older than I. I was too young to remember her at home. I tell people I am an only child cuz thats how I was brought up. It is what it is.

#490 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:40 pm

oh, lord, now gypsy is sucking up!

oh, gypsy, you’re so good!

#491 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:40 pm

oh, lord, now gypsy is sucking up!

oh, gypsy, you’re so good!

#492 marie on 09.17.08 at 3:40 pm

PBS: Palin Vote
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:08:21 PM · by FlashBack · 21 replies · 625+ views
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html ^
PBS Online Poll…Palin is getting hammered http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html BS

Go vote

#493 marie on 09.17.08 at 3:41 pm

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13524.html
Can Obama really pull it off?

Donna Brazile, Al Gore’s campaign manager in 2000, is used to this “bed-wetting” phase of the campaign. “Democrats are notorious for whining when things go bad,” she said. “A presidential campaign is not for the fainthearted.”

She is not without her own criticism of the Obama campaign, however. She believes that the race is “essentially tied” and that Obama’s media strategists “need to sharpen their ads so they are more memorable and have a shelf life of more than 24 hours.”

She also worries that the Obama campaign is “insular.” She said: “It doesn’t feel like a family with all voices at the table are as diverse as the party itself. It still feels like a primary campaign with some additions. It doesn’t feel like all hands on deck.”

She believes Obama “should get back to issues, instead of talking about change.”

“People still have lingering doubts about Obama as to whether he can be trusted as commander in chief,” Brazile said. “I thought his campaign would have more meat on the bones by now. They did great job at the convention, but it was short-lived.”

She said that at times “Obama’s voice is strong and articulate, but people don’t feel attached to him, and they have got to feel attached to him. That would answer some racial aspects that simmer below the radar and sometimes percolate over the top.”

“He has had some moments where he seems unsure of his own voice,” Brazile said, “but I still think he can pull this off.”

And if he doesn’t?

“If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose,” she said. “The country just wasn’t ready.”

#494 mimi1020 on 09.17.08 at 3:41 pm

PROWL COMPLETED! ROOOOOAAAARRR!

THIS ONE’S FOR YOU!

#495 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:41 pm

487 bobram What are we supposed to do with the Logan Act?

#496 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 3:42 pm

Someone just emailed me this:

OBAMA CAUSED THE HOUSING & FINANCIAL CRISIS Since his days as a “Community Organizer” for ACORN, Obama has been an advocate for lowering mortgage underwriting standards for inner-city Blacks, and now 92% of those loans are in default. One expert writes: “[T]he greatest scandal of the mortgage crisis is that it is a direct result of an intentional loosening of underwriting standards – done in the name of ending discrimination, despite warnings that it could lead to wide-scale defaults.”

#497 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 3:43 pm

SheWhoRunsWithHoneyStick is looking for a new crack to cram it in – look out ! :)

#498 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:43 pm

Mama,
Forgive me my sins… I can not do prowls from work…
but, I’ll work twice as hard when I get home, in honor of you.

*Texas… listen and learn.;)

#499 bobram on 09.17.08 at 3:44 pm

1Gypsy – you caught me again on the way out of the den – like yesteday – this was Ladyhawkkes action item – I just found a spot that you could ask for investigate action on the subject – add your comments and any linkes you have to : http://www.thehansenfiles.com – its for Dateline and a brand new action center for them just about three days old now – already got a response thanking me and would start investigation – the more that sends it to them the faster they make move —-

Really gone now —–

#500 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:46 pm

ACORN Why can’t we prowl on ACORN about all of this voter fraud? They receive Federal Funds!! I’m going to try to see how much they get.

By the way, BHO got over 15 million for Reverend Wright’s church, etc. Guess how much Rev Wrights retirement was – $15 million !!!!!!!!!! Sounds like a sticky situation to me!!

#501 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 3:47 pm

if only all the little PUMAs did their prowls then we could take back the Democratic Party and relax. But until then its work those prowls.

#502 atypical on 09.17.08 at 3:48 pm

445 just words
That why I said, she somehow lost!!

#503 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 3:48 pm

Pretty?
Forgive sins?

Teaching the little ones to misbehave.

Oh My!!

#504 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:48 pm

“She believes Obama “should get back to issues, instead of talking about change.””
———————————-
Since when has Oblahblahblah talked about issues…
his positions on issues? (The echoing of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s positions do not count).
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“If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose,” she said. “The country just wasn’t ready.”
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Right! Blame it on the country…never blame anything on OemptyRacistSexistLackwit.

#505 marie on 09.17.08 at 3:49 pm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2084530/posts

Poll shows McCain, Warner leading races in Virginia (McCain 48%, Obama 39%)
Virginian-Pilot ^
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:25:06 PM by Chet 99
Republican presidential nominee John McCain has opened a clear lead over Democrat Barack Obama among Virginia voters in the race for the White House, according to a new statewide poll.
The survey, taken last week for the Center for Public Policy at Christopher Newport University, found McCain with the support of 48 percent of state voters, compared with 39 percent for Obama. Just under 13 percent were undecided.
The poll also showed Democrat Mark Warner is maintaining a huge advantage, 54 percent to 30 percent, over Republican Jim Gilmore in the state’s U.S. Senate contest. Warner leads Gilmore among virtually all voter groups, the survey indicates, even claiming the support of nearly one in four Republicans.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2084524/posts
If He Can Make It There . . .
McCain shows strength in New York

#506 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 3:49 pm

#374 bobram & 427 BillieJo, re: declaring one candidate and voting for another, I am stunned. I wish someone who had done this come forward and explain the reasoning. Since I come from an independent, individualist point of view, all of my guesses for this behavior would be nothing more than abstract swags.

#507 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 3:50 pm

********* Prowls done**********

#508 jennforhillary on 09.17.08 at 3:51 pm

prowl done!

#509 queen81 on 09.17.08 at 3:52 pm

My prowls are done….now can I have an ice cream?

#510 atypical on 09.17.08 at 3:52 pm

#489 Hilfran
It’s true that when there are five or more years between sibs, the younger child is considered an only child if he/she doesn’t have any close younger sibs. That’s the psychology of birth order.

#511 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:53 pm

Well, I started the research on B. Hussein and ACORN. We could write a book on how he received funds, etc from groups within ACORN. One article says $800,000 and it just goes on and on and on………

#512 just.words... on 09.17.08 at 3:53 pm

#502 atypical

Got it!

I overlooked your intentional choice of the word “somehow” — still can’t think of the way that the DNC conspired against her without FIRED UP!!!

#513 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 3:54 pm

Prowls done- I was a stealth Puma and did them from work! :)

#514 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:55 pm

511 1gypsy4mc

Wonder if we could work up an informational flyer?

#515 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 3:55 pm

I can’t do the prowl. It keeps giving me this message:

“missing or malformed recipient”

I even changed all the commas to semicolons inbetween the addresses. I have this problem all the time. I use Yahoo mail. Any suggestions?

#516 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 3:58 pm

Need to clarify – B. Hussein paid ACORN $800,000 – sounds like money laundrying to me!!

#517 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:58 pm

515 KarlaforHillary
It could be that one of the addresses is trucated..
either at the beginning or end?

#518 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 3:58 pm

#515 KarlaforHillary- I get that too when I use yahoo too. had to switch to geemail, and they go thru all the time!

#519 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 3:59 pm

^truncated, even

#520 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 3:59 pm

RE: ACORN RESERACH

Many writers over at American Thinker have been digging into this for months. I think there’s even a piece on their today about ACORN fraud in New Mexico. If you click on “Archives” and scroll through “Articles” and “Blogs” you’ll probably find a wealth of stuff to help get you started. Many articles include references to where they got the info.

I gotta go –

http://www.americanthinker.com/

#521 Nijma on 09.17.08 at 4:01 pm

Hmm…I’m being moderated?

#522 freddiebrown on 09.17.08 at 4:02 pm

I am glad Palin is keeping the vicious reporters at the back of the plane where they belong. They have been very upset that they cannot get to ask her questions. She has a journalism background so she understands their mentality. All they are interested in is asking her damaging questions and twisting things around. Now she is granting interviews to select people though I didn’t know why they set her up with Charlie Gibson who is just so smug and condesending.

Greta was very nice and respectful of Todd Palin’s interview. Even my husband liked it.

I really don’t think Palin should be on Oprah because she would definately paint Palin in a less than favourable light.

I talked my neighbor into voting McCain. He is a 94 year old World War II vet but it sounded like he was getting swayed by Obama’s sweet talk. I had to set him straight. Now he said he needs to set his daughter straight and vote for the good person – Country First.

I think our daily prowl is to keep talking to people.

#523 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 4:02 pm

Ok, finally got the prowl e-mail to work. I have no idea how. I just deleted all the addresses and re-entered them a couple of times. Then it worked. A few came back undeliverable though.

#524 Alice1943 on 09.17.08 at 4:02 pm

I wish FOX would get it right. Was it the Fed (Federal Reserve) which is a private organization, or was it the Government that gave AIG 85 million dollars?

#525 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 4:02 pm

Topic: Swift Boating
“Back in 2006, John Kerry said, “I won’t stand for the Swift Boating of any candidate. Help me in fighting back!” Hmmm, wonder what he’ll have to say about Howard and Obama’s new ad. I hope you’re not holding your breath.” – Be fun to do a PUMA Prowl on John Kerry w/cc’s to FOX & media.

#526 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 4:03 pm

#515 KarlaforHillary- And whatever Dances said! :D :D

luv ya sis!

#527 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 4:03 pm

Queen81 – How about a double scoop of the flavor of your choice, w/sprinkles?!!

#528 Nijma on 09.17.08 at 4:03 pm

Oh, no, sorry, I have a feedreader and not all the comments are coming through on the feed.

#529 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 4:04 pm

#492 marie I went and voted and that appears to be another one where you can continue to vote .

#530 A-Will on 09.17.08 at 4:04 pm

MamaPuma – email prowl done. :) I will have to do the fax later, after work.

#531 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 4:04 pm

321 Billiejo,
I like your suggestions for our new “currency.”
Always thinkin’, that Billiejo…!!

#532 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 4:05 pm

Thanks for the help Dances and prplvette

You two rock :!:

#533 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:05 pm

#506 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 3:49 pm

#374 bobram & 427 BillieJo, re: declaring one candidate and voting for another, I am stunned. I wish someone who had done this come forward and explain the reasoning. Since I come from an independent, individualist point of view, all of my guesses for this behavior would be nothing more than abstract swags.

———–
Type Bradley effect into google and see the articles on it, they are talking about the polls. One example is BO being way up in the Calif. polls in the primary and Hillary winning by 10%.

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Mama, before you wag your tail at me about the prowl, they are ready to go but have to wait at work until my coworker (Obots) go to lunch so I can use the fax and our mail server is down at the moment, but they are made up and ready to fly.

#534 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 4:05 pm

#522 freddiebrown, exactly. Working on converting people one person at a time. Each day I email my sons a couple of articles/YouTubes on Obama, with just that intent.

#535 atypical on 09.17.08 at 4:06 pm

I did that Hansen File thingy yesterday. I also copied McCain’s response yesterday to BO’s saying that he came up with the idea of the Congressional stimulus package. He didn’t even vote on it. I sent McCain’s statement and my comments to media in NY, Indiana, OH, and PA. I also mentioned that among BO’s other Pinocchioisms is the one that he led the Senate Banking Committee. Remember that one?

#536 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 4:06 pm

515 KarlaforHillary I used Yahoo and they went through perfectly. I just copied and pasted the email addy’s into the bcc.

#537 PumaPal on 09.17.08 at 4:07 pm

Off-topic but of interest to feminists.

I was reading the TimesOnline and was surprised to see that a network of five sharia courts have been set up in Britain to deal with Muslim civil matters. Two more are in the works.

Seven months ago, the Archbishop of Canterbury (Anglican Church) set off a news firestorm when he said that sharia law was inevitable. These courts were set up under Britain’s Arbitration Act 1996 and have the full force of law.

The article goes on to give some examples of how women have fared under these courts. It will come as no surprise to anyone that the women have been at great disadvantage.

The article appears in the http://www.timesonline.uk in the Sunday edition, September 14th. Its under the heading of UK News/Crime News.

#538 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 4:08 pm

I am 18 yrs apart from my younger sibling , the others are 20 and 22 yrs apart
I was supposed to be an abortion, because my mother had me at 48 and the obstetrician recomended an abortion due to her age
I consider my siblings my nices and nephews that I grew up with, otherwise I consider myself an only child

#539 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 4:08 pm

Gotta go again.

No, not to the bathroom, just to the laundry room. Hee! Hee!

#540 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:10 pm

#531 hillstheone

321 Billiejo,
I like your suggestions for our new “currency.”
Always thinkin’, that Billiejo…!!
—————-
((((((Thanks Hills…))))))

#541 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 4:11 pm

537 PumaPal Yep, they took over England like they are trying to take over the U.S. Trust me, when companies start giving them special holidays, etc., then something’s wrong. People need to wake up. They are at every major university in the U.S.

#542 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 4:11 pm

That interview that Greta had with Todd Palin was fun to watch. She was actually flirting on camera, it was obvious. She even did the sweeping the hair back thing, a dead giveaway. It’ll be fun to watch Hannity tonight, to see if his eyes are glazed over.

#543 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:12 pm

freddie..is your neighbor senile or something?
i cant understand why in the hell any WW2,korean or vietnam vet could ever consider voting for some anti american military hater like obama ..its ludicrous to even compare obama to mccain as far as service and sacrifice to our country

#544 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:12 pm

Part of prowl done, waiting for server for the rest.
Whooooooya!

#545 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 4:13 pm

Why is the movie being shown AFTER the election..that is too far ‘after the fact’ the viewing public will be bored as it will be considered old news..except to us PUMAS.

Have tried to post 3 times, keep getting 500 error message..something new or me.

#546 PumaPal on 09.17.08 at 4:13 pm

#537 Oops

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/

#547 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 4:14 pm

sorry..meant ‘or me’ should be ‘for me’

#548 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 4:14 pm

#545 mccaindemo

No, error message is not something new. Just make sure that you make a copy of your post so that if you lose it, you can paste and post again. I happens to me all the time.

#549 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 4:15 pm

For anyone who wants to see Big Hillary Supporter voting now for McCain turn on FoxNews now it’s up after commercial (so they say, and nope I’m not even gonna try and spell her name cuz I know i’d spell it wrong you all know who i’m talking about.

#550 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 4:15 pm

ice cream, pats on the head, pitchers of beer.

All of these things await good PUMAs who do their work!!!

Mama

#551 tennaseepuma on 09.17.08 at 4:18 pm

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#552 tennaseepuma on 09.17.08 at 4:19 pm

Prowls Done…..

#553 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 4:20 pm

523 KarlaforHillary

By the way, sometimes when you copy and paste email address(es) there’s an invisible character at the very beginning of the line, place your cursor there (don’t highlight anything) and hit delete, not backspace, but delete.

#554 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:22 pm

dow down 450 points

#555 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 4:22 pm

545 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 4:13 pm Why is the movie being shown AFTER the election..
——————————————————
The election is probably part of the story…
That may be the reason segments are being shown as the production progresses.

#556 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 4:22 pm

Sly – she did it!! She DID IT!! WOW!

#557 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 4:23 pm

Murphy,

Why did you have to put a picture of Howard Duck at the top of the post. It is bringing back bad memories of the Crawford rally for me :lol:

#558 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:23 pm

All prowls done.

——–
Just got this from obies head d!ck…. wants more money from him although all I have ever given are cuss words back to them:

Billie Jo –

Want a look inside our strategy to win the battleground states?

I recorded a video on my laptop yesterday to brief you on the plan — including details that haven’t been shared publicly before.

Our fight in the battleground states is going to be tougher than a lot of you may think. Take Florida, where George Bush won by just 381,000 votes in 2004. The campaign we’re running there is going to cost more than $39 million.

That can only come from supporters like you — unlike John McCain, we don’t take money from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs.

To reach our goal, we need 50,000 new donors by Friday at midnight.

And if you make your first online donation today, your gift will go twice as far. A previous donor has promised to match every dollar you donate.

————
I wish I could charge them for sending me emails…

#559 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:25 pm

Oooops, I have to slow down, type slowly or I totally suck.

…..wants more money from ME

#560 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 4:26 pm

#556 1gypsy4mc Yep Yep now let’s hope and see if others will follow suit.. That would be great.

#561 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 4:26 pm

That’s Lynn De Rothschild. Yes, and she spoke very well. Calmly giving her reasons for her choice. Also, not commenting on Hillary’s choice to pull out of the protest.
Yes, and intelligent lady keeping her own counsel.

#562 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:27 pm

#549 slyt2

I posted it up above your head a ways.

#563 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:28 pm

rothschild..?? of the rothschild dynasty..she must be loadeded with money..hope she gives some to mccain palin

#564 Headclunker on 09.17.08 at 4:29 pm

TREASON!

Please post your opinions of BO’s troop withdrawl deal on Fox:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/15/obama-camp-denies-he-tried-to-delay-withdrawal-agreement-of-troops-from-iraq/#comment-693503

#565 murphy on 09.17.08 at 4:31 pm

hillstheone #525 –

we ARE doing a Prowl to Kerry with bcc’s to major media.

That’s what this one is!

silly puma.

Everyone still Prowling??

Prowling is fun.

Prowling is pretty easy to do (yay Gypsy!)

Prowling makes you powerful.

Prowling makes your hair shine and your eyes glow.

Prowling is GOOD for you and good for AMERICA.

Get Prowling!

#566 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 4:31 pm

I also finished my prowl. It is always such a project for me. Perhaps someone could give instructions on a simpler way.
I copy everything and send it to myself. Then I forward it and take out all the instructions. Copy and paste the email addresses in the instructed box. I end up with a good email, but it seems complicated.

#567 michelle47 on 09.17.08 at 4:31 pm

Slyt2

Did you see my post #362, I gave you the link to the City paper….

#568 taylorgrob1 on 09.17.08 at 4:35 pm

I saw an amazing statistic today in an article that discussed Oil’s dramatic price drop over the past few weeks:

“During the last two months, the world’s total energy costs have dropped $4 billion a day…An oil drop of $30 a barrel is significantly more damaging to Iran’s economy than UN Security Council sanctions.”

Energy is a huge cornerstone in correcting our economic woes. Conservation, alternative fuels, and national energy independence are critical.

#569 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 4:36 pm

Hillary was probably pulled from the event by BO’s team….hurts Hillary with Jewish base..no skin off his nose as he knows he won’t be supported by them anyway. She may have had NOTHING to do with being pulled…will we ever know ?

#570 emme on 09.17.08 at 4:37 pm

Prowls done.

Nobama. Nobiden. November. NO DEAL! :mrgreen:

Emme
PUMA Democrat from the swing state of PA

#571 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:38 pm

mccaindemo…
hillary must be taking orders from her new bosses..

#572 Notyoursweetie on 09.17.08 at 4:38 pm

Did you know that Global warming, while not opposing Obama, is nevertheless racist? has to, Clyburn sez so
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/global-warming-is-racist-and-no-it-doesnt-oppose-obama/

#573 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 4:39 pm

#545 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 4:13 pm

Why is the movie being shown AFTER the election..that is too far ‘after the fact’ the viewing public will be bored as it will be considered old news..except to us PUMAS.
———-
I totally agree, unless the movie is just for PUMAs, if not, it should be finished to have an impact at least a week or two before Nov 4th.

#574 KarenWI on 09.17.08 at 4:42 pm

Just heard Hannity say on his radio program that some hackers hacked into Palin’s private email and is taking screen shots of her private emails and posting them on websites.

#575 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:43 pm

notyoursweetie..
you mean you didnt know that everything you do is racist?
why the very fact you’re alive is proof that you are a racist…when you breathe air and drink water and eat..well thats all racist too..
your very existence is proof of racism

#576 Bluejay on 09.17.08 at 4:45 pm

I understand that oil drilling has been a controversial topic here, and I don’t mean to be adversarial. But a picture speaks a thousand words, and I found a map that explains so much more than I can say in words.

The map at the link below shows how tiny the “1002″ lands are in relation to the land that is already available for drilling oil and natural gas. Almost the entire northern coast is already involved. Because of this, the birthing ground of the entire Alaskan porcupine caribou herd has been squished into the small red area on the map known as the 1002 lands. The town marked “Arctic Village” is one of the Gwich’in villages along the migratory path of the caribou. I have already explained several times that if the caribou are forced away from the northern coastal plain, their chances of successfully propagating the herd are slim. They require those particular circumstances (i.e. northern sea breeze to keep away devouring insects, lack of wolves in that area, etc.)

All I ask is that you take a quick look at this map so that you can see how much has already been taken away, and how little still remains.

EVERYTHING is just too much to ask . . .

http://www.sierraclub.org/arctic/maps/images/oil-development-large.jpg

#577 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:46 pm

what the hell is wrong with that useless piece of feces GW..
theres all this obama fraud running rampant and this stupid sob GW who can order federal agencies to investigate and prosecute obama vermin who are doing all kinds of illegal things

#578 Seattlegirl on 09.17.08 at 4:47 pm

#522 freddiebrown: About Palin keeping the reporters at the back of the plane. I agree the back of the plane and silent is where the reporters belong. Some how these people think that directing an outrageous statement that is always distorted and often a flat out lie at a candidate is somehow informative. I mean reporters do not even ask questions they state blah blah blah….blah…blah! do you agree?! Yes or no?! YES! OR NO!?? I guess you aren’t going to answer me?! Was that a yes or a no??!!

#579 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:49 pm

typical media reporters questions..
governor palin. how many times did your husband beat you?
how many times have you abused your kids?
how many times did you miss cooking for todd and the kideees?

#580 Seattlegirl on 09.17.08 at 4:50 pm

#569 mccaindemo: Hate to say it but pulling out makes Hillary look petty. Which means it was probably BOs idea that she should pull out.

#581 Alice1943 on 09.17.08 at 4:50 pm

563 osaka puma Although she married the man, she was a self-made millionaire before she did.

#582 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:52 pm

its so sad to see hillary reduced to a humiliated errand runner for obama and dean..
another proud woman broken by powerful men

#583 NJPUMA on 09.17.08 at 4:53 pm

September 17, 2008
Poll: McCain, Obama virtually tied in battleground states
Posted: 04:06 PM ET

From From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

Florida: Obama 48, McCain 48
Indiana: McCain 51, Obama 45
North Carolina: McCain 48, Obama 47
Ohio: Obama 49, McCain 47
Wisconsin: Obama 50, McCain 47

We have got work to do. GO PUMA!!

#584 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 4:54 pm

Here’s something vile. Baby Trig should have been aborted

I guess Sarah Palin is losing the anti-special-needs crowd.

#585 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:54 pm

NJ puma..we have to go to work for what?

#586 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 4:56 pm

#579…Osaka…Are they really asking her these questions? I am not surprised at anything anymore, but just checking. I don’t even think Hillary was asked this.

#587 dcinlasvegas on 09.17.08 at 4:57 pm

There’s a time and a place for stepping up on personal soapboxes. I don’t feel that this blog is either. When a person starts repeatedly espousing their personal beliefs on an issue it detracts from the purpose of the blog. We all have our own beliefs on many important topics, be they feminism, the environment, etc. If you post your beliefs, okay, I’ll read them. It’s good to weigh other’s views against your own. But please, quit harping on one subject. I still choking from the DNC trying to shove BO down my throat and I really don’t need people here trying to do the same with their opinions. Sorry, don’t mean to offend. It’s just that sometimes it’s aggravating, and after all the goal is to keep BO OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. Let’s sink his ship and then worry about other issues. Just my humber opinion.

#588 dcinlasvegas on 09.17.08 at 4:58 pm

typo: humber is supposed to be humble. sorry!

#589 NJPUMA on 09.17.08 at 4:58 pm

585 osaka puma

I meant that we had to make sure BO does not win Florida or Ohio in November.

#590 slyt2 on 09.17.08 at 4:59 pm

#567 michelle47 Yes I did but I couldn’t get it to work when I clicked on it :(

#591 Alice1943 on 09.17.08 at 5:00 pm

Obama is the ultimate racist and, if he has his way, will make everyone else a racist. Which makes absolutely no sense. In order for their to be ‘racists’ there have to be ‘non-racists’., but if everyone is…….. um, er, could you uh, maybe explain and clarify this a little more, BO?
It’s starting to feel like a person can’t be part of the ‘in crowd unless they are ‘racist’.

#592 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 5:00 pm

#139 TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 11:50 am

———————–

Ah yes. That’s the one! Thank you.

Now I’ll send it and the PAC’s AOD video off to my kool-aid drunk sister! ;) She just cannot seem to understand why I will not heed Hillary’s plea to get behind “The One” since I worked so hard for Hillary and they believe in the same issues. I’ve already tried to explain that Hillary does not own my vote; that I am pi$$ed at the DNC leadership and that they MUST not be rewarded for their blind arrogance and ignorance; that BO is an illegitimate fraud candidate who lacks integrity, character, and any semblance of leadership qualities; and that I am so very tired of being branded a d$#ned racist just because I will not ‘fall in line’. And that’s just the tip of the proverbial iceberg of my issues with BO and the DNC. So I guess it is time for some caucus fraud show and tell. :lol:

#593 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 5:00 pm

this entire obama phenomenon in my opinion has created a new american “cold war”..
i know obama supporters are american citizens but honestly i cant stand them and the further they are away from me the better it is..
i dont know if im the only one who feels this but whenever im around obama kool aid drinkers a wall of ice goes up between us..
i am so outraged at all the immoral and illegal crap they have done and continue to do to get obama up there..
it seems no one can stop the criminals..not even the GOP!!

#594 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:01 pm

Email addy for Kerry?

#595 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 5:01 pm

PUMA Alive And Well In VA

#596 freddiebrown on 09.17.08 at 5:01 pm

PLEASE READ:

Extracted from Vogue September. I found it helpful and hope PUMAs will too.

When discussing politics, always keep in mind you’re conversing, not campaigning.

As the plot really begins to thicken in a presidential election year, talking politics in social life has become tricky. Here are a few suggestions to keep everything cool.

1) Of utmost importance, respect boundaries. Do not ask whom someone is voting for. That is, initially, too invasive. Something along the lines of “How do you feel the election is going?” will allow discussion to unfold in a general way, becoming more personal soon enough but in a mutually agreeable manner.
The reason politics can become so contentious is that we confuse it with values. Politics is theoretical, historical, scholarly and impersonal. Values are emotional; they define us. Telling people they are wrong about anything – from their candidate of choice to Iran, Iraq, health care, or whether the candidate’s wife will be a good First Lady – WILL FEEL LIKE AN ATTACK IF WE ARE TALKING PERSONAL VALUES, NOT POLITICS.

In response, we find ourselves defending our beliefs to the end because one’s definition of self, unwittingly or not, seems to depend on being found right. In short, no one wants to be found rooting for the wrong guy.

2) If you find yourself under verbal attack, when trying to make your point, divert the conversation immediately. “Oh, well, enough about me, how are you doing ? “

3) If you’re talking to someone younger, do not condescend. If you are talking to someone older, back up feelings with facts and never be in such a rush to make your point that you forget the art of listening. And please, no one try to emulate the histrionic, discursive style of the talking heads you see on TV.

#597 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:02 pm

574 KarenWI

Hope authorities use unlimited resources to track and catch the Ocreeps.

#598 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:04 pm

# 579 – please cite the source of these questions. if they are simply you being dramatic, please state so in order not to spread/start a rumor and/or create confusion.

# 587 – well said.

#599 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:04 pm

# 579 – please cite the source of these questions. if they are simply you being dramatic, please state so in order not to spread/start a rumor and/or create confusion.

# 587 – well said.

#600 freddiebrown on 09.17.08 at 5:04 pm

TO DANCES W/PUMA :

Post # 596 could be useful for the action center as a HOW TO DISCUSS YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS WITH FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.

Anyone can add to it if they have other ideas. Hopefully it makes less confrontational conversations at work too.

#601 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 5:05 pm

I have to believe that McCain is doing about 3 – 4 points better than the polls show, and here’s why: the samples are weighted according the demographics. Nationally, there are more registered democrats than republicans. Consequently, democrats are sampled more heavily…this is intentional…to get an accurate read on the electorate. However, this year, the electorate has effectively changed. It’s has if millions of democrats have disappeared and in their place millions of republicans poofed into existence. This is a double whammy. However, if you keep polling heavily weighted toward democrats, the results will not reflect the PUMA factor. This is the whole purpose of the Godzilla Prowl getting worked up…don’t do it yet, it’s not ready.

#602 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:06 pm

# 600 – nice idea. i’d add to it:

if obama supporter appears “genuinely” interested in your perspective, you can offer to provide them with some info and/or links to web sites where they can learn a bit more about where you’re coming from and why. (in my experience, that usually stops things dead in the tracks since they really DON’T want to know my rationale – they just want to attack me)

#603 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:08 pm

godzilla – interesting thinking. but, per your initial point, i think most reputable polls account for disproprotionate ways results could be skewed based on party affiliation.

#604 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:08 pm

godzilla – interesting thinking. but, per your initial point, i think most reputable polls account for disproprotionate ways results could be skewed based on party affiliation.

#605 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:08 pm

godzilla – interesting thinking. but, per your initial point, i think most reputable polls account for disproprotionate ways results could be skewed based on party affiliation.

#606 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:08 pm

#584 Godzilla ,

I wish WE could lose the anti special needs crowd. Somewhere far far away from America :lol:

#607 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:09 pm

ugh
ugh
ugh

glad i’m on my way back out — hanging my head in multiple click shame –

#608 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 5:09 pm

anna7000… english is my second language so excuse me if my post confused you..
when i studied english at UC i was taught that unless a statement has specific sources noted or other references indicated it would be interpreted as a “rhetorical statement or question”..
sorry if you got confused

#609 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:09 pm

600 freddiebrown

I was thinking the same as I read it. Would you copy and paste and email to:
mailto:actioncenter@pumapac.org
?
Thanks.

#610 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:09 pm

MamaPuma I’m trying to do my prowl, but I don’t have Kerry’s email addy and no one is answering me. Thank you so much!! :lol:

#611 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:11 pm

#587 dcinlasvegas,

Well said :wink:

#612 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:11 pm

email prowls done

#613 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 5:12 pm

#Anna7000, Rasmussen doesn’t account for PUMA. <a href=”http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_rasmussen_reports_party_weighting_targets_38_7_democrat_33_6_republicanRead this article

Rasmussen goes by the electorate demographics, and PUMA is not figured in.

#614 Shane on 09.17.08 at 5:13 pm

Ref. BarbNobo
Sorry to lessen your bright news on your particular,
but CNN News at 9.00pm(GMT) this evening per Bill
Sneider confirmed per new CNN polls that Senator McCain’s
recent gains in the battleground states had been wiped out overnight .Very disappointing even in Ohio as well.
What has happened, unless all blame for Wall Street
collaspes are being set at McCain’s doorstep.
As far as CNN are concerned there is only one Presidential Candidate in this election ……..Obama.
Let us hope that this will not turn out to be a rout and
the end for Senator Clinton.

Good fortune, Shane, Ireland

#615 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:13 pm

duh!! :oops:

#616 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:13 pm

Gypsy

Kerry, John F.- (D – MA)
304 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2742
Web Form: kerry.senate.gov/v3/contact/email.html

#617 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:14 pm

I just went back to look at the prowls – looks I’m now I’m in a sticky situation……….

#618 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 5:15 pm

#582 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 4:52 pm

its so sad to see hillary reduced to a humiliated errand runner for obama and dean..
another proud woman broken by powerful men
———–
Come on, she isn’t broken. Seems you are freaking out today PUMA, deep breath.

Maybe Hillary didn’t want to be caught in a media circus with reporters and their spin machines with Palin in the same event. Bo has tried to turn her into an attack dog with Palin and she refused.

#619 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 5:15 pm

repost to #603 Anna700: Rasmussen doesn’t account for PUMA. Read this article.

Rasmussen goes by the electorate demographics, adn PUMA is not figured into it.

#620 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:15 pm

616 DancesWithPumas – we did one to Dean & Kerry, but is this a better one for Kerry?

#621 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 5:16 pm

#569 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 4:36 pm

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She’s a confounded U.S. Senator from NY for crying out loud! Why the heck should the BO campaign be able to tell her to attend or not to attend this rally in NY? She’s a representative of the people, not the BO campaign. this is why the people should be contacting her U.S. Senate Office and demand to know point blank why she pulled out of this thing just because Palin was going to be there. This was billed as a non-partisan ’support’ event, she’s spoken there before when other repugs were there, and yet it’s clear that for some reason Senator Clinton must have felt that it was going to be partisan and politically reactive. As her constituents the good people of NY, her constituents and all of us since she is a federal representative, have every right to know exactly why she pulled out. If it was to somehow protect BO’s campaign then that in my mind, as much as I respect her and still want her to be our next POTUS, is just plain wrong.

#622 murphy on 09.17.08 at 5:17 pm

the email address for John Kerry was in the first Prowl.

It is:

support@johnkerry.com

#623 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:17 pm

620 1gypsy4mc

It’s all I could find for the moment. I haven’t seen the prowl yet as I am at “wack” (c. kat in your hat)

#624 bobram on 09.17.08 at 5:19 pm

Politico Poll – who has run the most honorable campaign is obviously rigged – I have been voting on it for hours and every time I vote a new figure shows of at least 8 or 9 votes after the last one and figures have not moved from 73% BO to 27% McCain – for hours now – I think with 6785 votes – that they gave him a head start of 5000 votes beginning with 65% — they all drank the kool aide over there.

#625 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 5:19 pm

#607 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 5:09 pm

——————————

Anna! :lol: :lol:

#626 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 5:20 pm

#605 Anna7000
Now you have triplet posts……….:lol:

#627 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:20 pm

621 NObamaDem

It may be part of the bargain for barACK! to assist with her campaign debt. (I hope she got in writing any promises he made).

#628 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 5:22 pm

610 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:09 pm

MamaPuma I’m trying to do my prowl, but I don’t have Kerry’s

——–
Kerry’s is a fax number not an email. All the fax numbers are together in a little group.

#629 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:23 pm

THE ONY TWO POLLS I CARE ABOUT:

PUMA POLL
For Obama 0%
Against Obama 100%
——–
NOV 4 POLL:
Obama 0%
McCain 100%

any questions?

#630 murphy on 09.17.08 at 5:24 pm

kerry’s email is:

support@johnkerry.com

it’s in there if you copy and paste.

#631 murphy on 09.17.08 at 5:25 pm

dances — good one!

#632 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:25 pm

BillieJo
do you have this:
Two Free Faxes a day
http://www.faxzero.com

#633 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:26 pm

#629 DancesWithPumas ,

I like your poll results the best :lol:

#634 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 5:26 pm

Hey PUMAs! I haven’t been posting lately, but have been here daily reading! I live in Jacksonville and Monday John and Cindy McCain were here. My partner, Pete and I went to see them and I was amazed at the number of young voters that were there supporting him. From all we hear on the MSM, you’d think that everyone under the age of 30 is automatically in the Nobama column! Not so! Thank God!
I am a commercial realtor and I get a lot of chances to talk with all kinds of people! It amazes me at the number of people who are voting for McCain and like most of us, were life long Democrats!
Just wanted to share that! I hope you are all well!
SusyT

#635 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 5:27 pm

“Rasmussen Markets data gives McCain a 49.2% chance of victory while expectations for Obama are at 49.3%. These figures are updated on a 24/7 basis by market participants.”

Not much difference, but I would be more comfortable if McCain had a huge lead.

#636 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:27 pm

#634 SusyT,

Great News!!! Thank you for sharing.

#637 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 5:28 pm

1gypsy4mc

Anyone who can not send their prowls in just two letters needs a lesson on how to do the prowl.

your life is going to be soooooooo much easier when you learn how to do this.

write to me at MamaPumaMass@aol.com

now get the work the rest of you.

#638 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 5:29 pm

Well I suck at this…has all the email set up went to send and no go.
Telling me one address is wrong……..I am stymied.
Do not have a fax machine…….flustered and flustered did not make calls. I fired myself!!
Now have to go to son-in-laws birthday family cake and ice cream tradition.
The best part is my grandson will be sooo happy that Gram and Gramps will be visiting. He is my only grandchild, 8 years old and a little smart ass!

#639 marie on 09.17.08 at 5:29 pm

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/17/hollywoods-noblesse-oblige-to-us-little-guys-race-card-in-ks-define-sleaziest-chicago-change-means-more-of-the-same-and-dem-platform-member-switches-to-mccain/
Dem platform member switches to MCcain

#640 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 5:30 pm

You are welcome, Sherry!

#641 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 5:30 pm

#632 DancesWithPumas
Thanks Dances but I have a real fax machine here at work and needed to wait for all the Obots to clear out of my office to use it. One fax, no one notices, multiple with my laughing…raises eyebrows.

My prowls were finished awhile ago.

Murphy – some of us are ready to go for another round of prowls, if you want to pass another one out.

#642 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 5:30 pm

Dances
I think that you should update Gallop and Rasmussen

#643 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:31 pm

634 SusyT

Good to hear! Thank you for sharing that info with us.
Puma Pac has business cards posted at the Action Center if you’d like to print some and distribute to those dems 4 McCain who might like to participate in and with PUMA PAC.

http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html
Click on Flyers, Fake Cash, Documents

#644 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:31 pm

Yes, Mama
As soon as I get home from my day job. :)

#645 ladyhawkke on 09.17.08 at 5:32 pm

Have been gone all day, just did the e-mail prowls. Will be doing the faxes shortly. They’ll have them in the morning.
Ed Hale’s radio show tonight:
Hi Folks.

Plains Radio Network’s No Obama Talk show will have as its guest Steve Schmidt, John McCain’s senior advisor, on its radio program tonight (Wednesday) at 7 pm central. Steve will be taking your questions for 1 hour.

We are also in the process of booking Gov Sarah Palin on our show too. If everything goes right, we will have her in the 2 weeks or so. The McCain people are reaching out to all of us Hillary Clinton supporters to try and earn our vote. We are the block of voters that they know will put them in the White House. So here is your chance to call and ask a question or give a brief comment to Steve.

All calls will be restricted to 3 minutes so we can get as many calls in as we can. Please do not get anrgy when I drop your call after you have asked your question.

Click Here to listen live and chat.

Be sure and listen Wednesday night from 7:00 pm to 8:00 pm for Steve Schmidt. Hope to see all of you in our chat room.
Thanks
Ed and gang

#646 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 5:32 pm

I just saw John McCain on the news he was speaking at a auto factory in Michigan when he finished they were chanting Obama 08 I felt bad for him, most of the employees were black maybe that was why

#647 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 5:33 pm

Dances,
Thanks! I will do that. We have a great printer in the office and I’ll print a bunch of them in the a.m.!
I’ve been checking on the flyers I’ve posted around the city and so far…none, none have been ripped up or torn down!!!!!

#648 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 5:35 pm

#646 Pookie

That is so rude. Obama supporters have absolutely no class. Even if they don’t want McCain, he came there to talk to them. They didn’t need to be so disrespectful.

#649 ontherocks on 09.17.08 at 5:36 pm

Pookie post 646,

That is very sad. Whatever happened to respecting our elders? My Me-Ma would kick my butt if she found out I was being rude to someone.

#650 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 5:36 pm

Sorry for the bad grammar in above post.

#651 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:37 pm

I’ve been checking on the flyers I’ve posted around the city and so far…none, none have been ripped up or torn down!!!!!
—————————–
Well, that’s a good sign!!!
___________________________________________
642 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 5:30 pm Dances
I think that you should update Gallop and Rasmussen
—————————–
What do you mean?

#652 catsrlove on 09.17.08 at 5:40 pm

GREAT NEWS….A huge Hillary Clinton supporter, someone who has MONEY – even more than Oprah, is changing to vote for McCain/Palin.

Lady Lynn Forester De Rothschild is now supporting the McCain/Palin ticket…

Wolfe ask her if she had called Hillary. She said, “No, this is a personal choice. My Country means more than my party”.

He said was it because she didn’t like nobama. She said, “No, I don’t think he is ready to be president”.

If I had been there, I would have hugged her. She was so sincere. Wolfe tried to get her to say things, but she was clear about her choice.

She is head of something in the DNC. She said she had resigned..

God bless you Lady Rothschild..

#653 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 5:41 pm

#646..
such rudeness and disrespect by an almost 100% AA group pisssed you off didnt it?
what makes you think it wouldnt piss off other people? :lol:

#654 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:42 pm

#648 KarlaforHillary,

Maybe so but if Obama came to talk to us wouldn’t we be shouting McCain 08? :lol:

#655 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 5:42 pm

I just received an email from the Indiana Dems. It was regarding Linda Pence who is running for Attorney General. It stated to call in and talke to a representative about gas price gouging in Indiana. I called the number and got her campaign manager on the cell phone. It just so happens, I got the “press release”! I said well I am a PUMA DEMOCRAT- but Linda is on my list to vote for in the General Election, I was going to forward this email to all the Indiana Puma’s. He said hmmm interesting, your a Puma huh? I said yes do you know who we are? He said OF COURSE! He gave me his number at the campaign HQ because he was right in the middle of the press conference with a big crowd around him!

If any Indian Puma’s out there want to call about the gas prices, you can call the HQ for Linda Pence at 317-687-9144.

I told him I would forward the email to all the Puma’s so here it is. Sorry for the long post!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wed., Sept. 17, 2008 Contact: Joel Miller (317)-750-5757 LINDA PENCE CALLS FOR INVESTIGATION INTO HIGH GAS PRICES Hard-Working Hoosiers Deserve An Attorney General Who Will Advocate For Them Indianapolis, Ind. – Today, Linda Pence, candidate for Attorney General, held a press conference to call attention to the skyrocketing price of gas. In Indiana, the average price of gasoline hit $4.17, marking a sudden and across-the-board increase in the state. Indiana is paying higher prices than 44 other states, but no one is currently investigating why. “When Hoosier families are wondering about the sudden and uniform increase, it is the responsibility of the Attorney General to look into the matter and demand an answer. The people of Indiana need someone who will advocate for their interests, and not roll over for Big Oil,” said Linda Pence, candidate for Attorney General. Right now, the Attorney General’s office touts a gas price-gouging hotline. However, when a constituent called the number, the message merely stated: “Thank you for calling the gas-gouging line. We want to let you know that we can only pursue gas gouging complaints when the governor declares a state of emergency. The governor has not yet declared a state of emergency, but we want to go ahead and collect your information. Please remain on the line for a representative, and thank you.” Linda Pence knows the Attorney General should do more, and stated today that she would “take a more aggressive and vocal role to investigate price gouging, price fixing and potential anti-trust violations.” Leaving an innocuous outgoing message is not action; it is not the solution or answer Hoosiers deserve. They deserve a person of action; not simply empty words and rhetoric. While at the U.S. Department of Justice, Pence fought oil companies over oil pricing. She has a history of standing up for honest, hardworking Hoosiers in the face of Big Oil and the special interests. She believes it is not the job of the Attorney General to make excuses; it is the job of the Attorney General not to turn a blind eye to Big Oil. Rather in this situation, the Attorney General should actively investigate them with a robust, proactive agenda that will ensure consumers are protected. If Pence were attorney general today, she would launch a serious investigation into the pricing practices of gasoline in Indiana. She would publicly pursue complaints in order to deter oil companies from trying to reap more money at the expense of Hoosiers. She calls on the Attorney General’s office to report to the people of Indiana what they have done to ensure that the Hoosiers are protected and not being treated differently than any other state in the country, and make known what–if any–lawsuits have been filed. “Price gouging is good for the oil companies, but bad for all of us. This is all happening at a time when the oil companies are reaping record profits, but Hoosiers are paying record prices at the pump,” said Pence. ###

#656 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 5:43 pm

Murphy – thanks, I realized it was one of the email addy’s that I inserted in my prowls. Sorry for my own confusion. Thanks again. :oops:

#657 atypical on 09.17.08 at 5:43 pm

I finished the prowls-except for the calls. Sorry I cannot speak without a teleprompter.

#658 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 5:43 pm

648 and 649 I thought it was rude but typical, I would not even do that to BO and MO, but then I grew up with manners his followers have none and they are to be feared!

#659 mick on 09.17.08 at 5:44 pm

#584 Godzilla,

This kind of vile crap really disturbs me and just breaks my heart. It’s just pure hate driven. People like this are evil. Something has gone terribly wrong in our country when this kind of thinking is becoming the norm. There used to be a time when the average person condemned this kind of thinking but now people laugh and agree.

Kill the weak and old, this is what the Nazis believed.

In my experience, Down Syndrome children are filled with just pure love and I believe they are a gift from God.

******************************

#584 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 4:54 pm

Here’s something vile. Baby Trig should have been aborted

I guess Sarah Palin is losing the anti-special-needs crowd.

#660 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:45 pm

#657 atypical,

:lol: I have that problem too

#661 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 5:46 pm

if this terrorist underground movement continues, we are in for bad business,, I just read in a previous post that palin´s email had been hacked, this people are harassing everything and everyone that is not within their fanaticism

#662 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 5:47 pm

#653 OsakaPuma: It really did not piss me off as much as it made me sad John had to walk through the middle of them and he was just smiling I really got a lump in my throat and I am not republican but I am an American and a human being I hope it did not sit well with the voters

#663 Godzilla on 09.17.08 at 5:49 pm

#659 mick, I think it’s self-hatred projected outward. Sarah Palin has caused the nihilists to become unglued to an astonishing degree. She obliterates their entire belief system. In fact, they probably see her as an existential threat, and quite rightly so.

#664 MsBinMD on 09.17.08 at 5:49 pm

Fax and Emails done

#665 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:50 pm

#658 Pookie,

You are right. When I went to the Dean rally I wanted to shout Hillary all through his speech but I didn’t. I let him have his say and kept quiet but afterwords when he wouldn’t answer questions then I forgot my manners and my anger kicked in :lol:

#666 shampoovta on 09.17.08 at 5:52 pm

Hello Pumas

I see the silly world is going crazy again. Ho hum, stalks are down. The Dems are crying.

I am just about “The sky is falling” out.

Come on think about it. Now every thing that happens is the Repubs fault as long as they are in office.

If the Dummycrats get in to office guess what well happen. Nothing. That is right, they wont do any of the stuff they promised. The only thing they are selling is ” we don’t suck, vote for me”. Yet they do. They all do.

Just look at congress. They suck right now yet they never take responsibility.

So old. So over

#667 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 5:52 pm

#654 texassherry

Yeah, I guess you’re probably right. I hate to admit. . .

#668 freddiebrown on 09.17.08 at 5:52 pm

shucks! I need to re-read my post about politico talk. I just told my investment manager: Vote carefully. As long as you don’t vote Obama, you’re fine. Why mince words eh?

#669 ABW4HRC on 09.17.08 at 5:53 pm

Good evening. I don’t know if you guys have seen the Right Change commercials but check out their website. It gives info about Oblahblah’s tax plan. Scary to say the least. http://www.rightchange.com/

#670 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 5:53 pm

“In my experience, Down Syndrome children are filled with just pure love and I believe they are a gift from God.”
Agree! (except for the “from God” part).
As are all chidren.

#671 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:55 pm

#667 KarlaforHillary,

I think this election is bringing out the worst in everybody. There are strong feelings on both sides.

#672 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 5:56 pm

#654 texassherry: some of might want to but another thing if we were at a Nobama rally and done that we would probably be mobbed
———————————————————–To Rusty Weiss. how low can you go? I know some down syndrome children and they are so sweet and loving.

#673 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 5:58 pm

#672 Pookie ,

Nah…I’m pretty brave but not stupid enough to go to an Obama rally :lol:

#674 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 6:00 pm

#672 Pookie,

Dean is just a whimp so that was easy especially in a mostly republican town like Crawford :lol:

#675 puma.sf1 on 09.17.08 at 6:00 pm

I did my prowl, MamaPuma! I miss you, too. We sure had some fun in Denver, didn’t we?

#676 Pookie on 09.17.08 at 6:00 pm

If I was at a Nobama rally I should be mobbed .LOL

#677 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:00 pm

This is ACORN’s email addy:

natexdirect@acorn.org

Does anyone want to help me about voter fraud, etc.?

http://www.acorn.org/contactus/national.html

I’m not saying it will stop them, but we can bcc to Dems and Repubs AND Independents and the news media. Something to the effect they are receiving Federal Funds, etc.

Any takers? If not, if you don’t hear from me for a couple of days, please come looking for me?!?

#678 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 6:02 pm

Time to get the baby pumas some supper. bbl tonight.

#679 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 6:04 pm

#645 ladyhawkke- Do you have a link for the show?

I feel bad for McCain- yes that was so rude. I live in Obama hell so I know how rude they can be. No manners, and they really think oblowme is going to magically make their lives better, without them having to do a thing, they think it is owed to them.

#680 utahpuma on 09.17.08 at 6:05 pm

#677 1gypsy4mc

I will help you, but I work during the days so my time is limited to early a.m. and some evening.
What do you need?

#681 queen81 on 09.17.08 at 6:09 pm

Just popped in…who said something nasty about Trig?

#682 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 6:09 pm

1gypsy..
joking aside i sure the hell wouldnt let those ACORN characters know where i lived..
this obama movement has contacts and pull all the way from wall street to neighborhood street gangs..
you think they wouldnt jack you up if ordered.. think twice my friend we are dealing with a pack of extermely well organized criminals.

#683 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:10 pm

680 utahpuma – Thankyou. I think they need to be sent an email along with Congressmen/Senators/Representatives – both parties, including Independents. I’m not a good writer though, but there are quite a few that good draw up a pretty good email. Let’s see if we can get some more in this corner. Thanks again.

#684 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 6:11 pm

what happen to MMCAIN in the car factory in michigan probably was not something that happens spontaneously
more like it was some sort crafted boycoot

#685 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 6:12 pm

Perhaps we should send a Puma Pounce to the union or the factory and let them know how dis respectful they were, and let them know…that we buy or don’t buy their cars….we are very good about boycotting….and writing union reps. :)

#686 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 6:13 pm

story…
maybe mccain knew what would happen before he went into that factory….
..get it?

#687 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 6:13 pm

This letter was posted on the obie site…….. corruption in progress…………….

The Associated Press State & Local Wire

DATELINE: BIRMINGHAM Ala.

Alabama inmates are registering to vote from prison in a precedent-setting
effort organized by activist groups with the blessing of state corrections
officials.

Nearly 80 prisoners had filled out registration forms during drives at two
lockups, and organizers plan to help them and hundreds more obtain absentee
ballots in time to vote in the presidential election on Nov. 4.

Laura Schley, 34, has eight months left on a four-year sentence for illegal
possession of prescription drugs. She had a hard time believing she was
registering Tuesday at the Birmingham Work Release Center.

“It just blew my mind,” said Schley, who was wearing prison whites. “My
voting rights are very important to me and have been ever since I was 18.”
Angela Wright, in the work-release center for cocaine possession, said she
has to study before casting her vote for either Republican John McCain or
Democrat Barack Obama for president.

Studies have estimated that more than 250,000 Alabama residents are barred
from voting because of criminal records.

Glasgow believes about 3,000 people could be eligible to vote from inside
Alabama prisons, and he plans to register as many as possible in coming weeks.

Completed voter registration forms will be sent to the secretary of state’s
office and volunteers will return to state lockups to make sure prisoners cast
their absentee ballots.

“We’re not telling them how to vote. We just want to make sure they get them
in the mail,” he said.

————
Yea right, I’m sure they won’t mention that they support Barack and he is helping them get their right to vote. Going to dump this over on the Drudge.

#688 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 6:14 pm

When I read this news it made my blood boil, greed in Wallstreet and politicians in Congress has no limitations. As long as their pockets are lined with green bucks to hell with investors and the American people who pay their taxes religiously. Our people in Congress are irresponsible and just as greedy as those people in Wallstreet.

===

This greed was beyond irresponsible
By John Gapper

Published: September 17 2008 19:09 | Last updated: September 17 2008 19:09

I have a fine seat in the FT’s New York office looking down the canyon of Sixth Avenue towards the banks of Midtown. From my perch, I have watched the flabbergasting events of the past week.

My initial reaction was excitement – what a time to be observing Wall Street for a living! This steadily gave way to bafflement, fear and finally, after the US government’s $85bn (£48bn, €60bn) bail-out of AIG , anger.

I was pleased that Hank Paulson, the Treasury secretary, heeded my advice (OK, that of others too) and refused to rescue Lehman Brothers. Guess what? The world did not end on Monday, even if the stock market dropped, and on Tuesday, the Federal Reserve was also defiant.

Its unanimous decision not to bow to market fears and cut interest rates was greeted with boos on the New York Stock Exchange floor. But the stock market took the medicine and went on to rally again.

Then came Mr Paulson’s retreat, executed with gritted teeth, as the government and the Fed reluctantly decided that the risks of letting AIG founder in the same way as Lehman were too great.

That frightened me.

There would be no justification for rescuing AIG under other circumstances. The chances of the average homeowner not getting an insurance claim paid if AIG’s holding company had been allowed to go under were slim, since its local property and casualty operations are sturdy and well-run.

Propping it up also creates moral hazard. Although its shareholders will lose most of their money, it encourages the idea that institutions can run amok in markets and will be bailed out. Indeed, the bigger they are and the worse they have behaved, the more likely it is to happen.

But forget all of that. It can be considered at leisure later on. The thing that frightened me was that Mr Paulson put up US government money when he so obviously did not want to. Having examined the heart of darkness – AIG’s $60bn book of derivatives written on other derivatives based on bad residential mortgages – his resolve crumbled.

Lord knows where this leaves us, since only He knows what a credit default swap (CDS) on a collateralised debt obligation (CDO) is worth.

Warren Buffett warned in 2003 that derivatives were “financial weapons of mass destruction” and that, while the Federal Reserve system was created in part to prevent financial contagion, “there is no central bank assigned to the job of preventing the dominoes toppling in insurance or derivatives”.

Incidentally, I recommend re-reading the entire passage, in the report for 2002 to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, because it is amazingly prescient about the “time bomb” that has now detonated.

For want of an alternative, the Fed has now become that central bank. This alone is a mess. At least when the Fed rescued Bear Stearns in March, it could turn itself into the de facto regulator of investment banks. But insurance groups are supervised – absurdly – by a network of state regulators. What happens now?

Mr Paulson is not only picking up the bill for the states. He is also doing a favour for European governments, whose banks would have been hit. Many of AIG’s toxic insurance contracts linked to subprime CDOs were sold to European banks to allow them to treat the securities they held as double A rated.

Given that AIG was helping them to dodge Basel I capital requirements by taking out flawed insurance contracts, it is not surprising that confidence and interbank liquidity have collapsed. A spike in Libor and the need for Lloyds TSB to take over HBOS are two consequences.

My final reaction is anger.

We are now, unquestionably, in the worst financial crisis since 1929. We do not know how many more banks and institutions will fail – Washington Mutual, the US counterpart of HBOS, is under severe pressure – but Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Lehman and AIG are plenty.

There are lots of people and institutions to blame for that, from regulators to mortgage brokers to, let us admit it, all of us who decided to speculate on house prices.

But AIG takes the biscuit. Here was a huge multinational insurance group with a reputation for solid underwriting and risk management that decided to diversify from insuring risks it knew well – car crashes and fires – to covering derivatives it did not understand.

Of course, it thought it understood them. In presentations to investors this year, it emphasised how thoroughly its AIG Financial Products arm assessed the risks of insuring CDOs. It ran all the data and decided that, in the worst case, it risked losing $2.4bn on the portfolio.

Well, $24bn of write-downs later – a mere 10 times its maximum estimate – the company has burned through its equity, spread financial chaos to all corners of the earth and humiliated the US Treasury. The job of insurance companies is to guard others against catastrophes, not cause them.

The word “irresponsible” does not begin to describe AIG’s behaviour. Like Bear, Lehman and others, it saw a way to get in on the growing action in mortgage-backed derivatives. Its bankers were soon earning huge fees for themselves and AIG by piling up unimaginable risks.

Call me a spoilsport, but I do not believe that AIG or any other capital markets institution should be allowed to play like that with my money (I am a US taxpayer) in future.

If this means going back to basics, and redesigning the global regulatory system so that a renegade insurance company is denied the chance to blow up the world’s banks again, so be it. Regulation cannot solve everything but enough is enough.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9c0e75cc-84e1-11dd-b148-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1

#689 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:15 pm

682 osaka puma uh well, maybe that wasn’t a good idea???? How do we get things reported on the Drudge Report?

#690 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 6:16 pm

#686 osaka puma- Yes perhaps…but we could again notify media to the dis-respect and arrogance that trickles down from oblowme to his obots.
At least the Puma’s know how to protest with respect.

well…except for that one little mishap with drooling Chris Matthews in Denver. lol :)

#691 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:17 pm

hey Dances,

My youngest brother was a Downs baby. My Mom had him the year she turned 40. I was 17. When I see Trig, it brings tears to my eyes. My brother passed away this past Dec. 1. He looked so much like Trig when he was a baby. You are right about all children. Downs children are so loving and precious. I believe that God gives these children to special families, those who will open their hearts and accept the love and the joy they bring to your life. They do. I’m an expert. Sarah’s family is one of those families.

#692 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 6:18 pm

642 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 5:30 pm Dances
I think that you should update Gallop and Rasmussen
—————————–
What do you mean?
——–
nevermind… over-thinking again.

#693 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 6:18 pm

#677 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:00 pm

This is ACORN’s email addy:
——————
Do what I do, take the repub website email addresses, some are in today’s prowl and shoot this info over to them. I am working on my own prowls right now that are similar in nature.

#694 john on 09.17.08 at 6:19 pm

Please join

John McCain & Sarah Palin

for a Straight Talk Town Hall Meeting!

Wednesday, Sept. 17th

Doors Open at 4:30 pm

***We regret to inform you that due to size limitations, we will not be accepting any additional RSVPs to the September 17th Straight Talk Town Hall Meeting with John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Tickets will be required for admission and will only be provided to those that have already reserved their tickets online.
Thank you for your interest and please watch for upcoming events in your area.***

***UPDATED: This event is full. Tickets are no longer available. The event will be available to view online. To view the event online, 7 pm est please click here. http://www.johnmccain.com/mccaintv/live.htm

#695 mick on 09.17.08 at 6:20 pm

OMG, these people are lunatics!!

These Obot idiots are the gift that just keeps on giving! Lol Although this is a horrible crime, it will be another positive, … it evokes sympathy and just continues to show what kind of scum make up the Obama camp.

Plus, it’s free publicity and when it evokes sympathy, even better.

“Sarah Palin’s private e-mail hacked, family photos raided; cesspool blog gloats

By Michelle Malkin
September 17, 2008 02:59 PM

Hacking e-mail is a federal crime. A TV anchor who broke into his colleague’s e-mail account recently pleaded guilty and faces a maximum five years in prison.

The law will catch up to the hackers, but what about the lowlifes who are now gleefully splashing the alleged contents of Palin’s private e-mail account all over the Internet?

The Gawker smear machine …”

Link ~

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/sarah-palins-private-e-mail-hacked-family-photos-raided/

#696 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 6:20 pm

#689 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:15 pm

682 osaka puma uh well, maybe that wasn’t a good idea???? How do we get things reported on the Drudge Report?
——-
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Copy/paste in the lower right hand box. Easy! I usually write a little and don’t just give them a link, to get their attention.

#697 queen81 on 09.17.08 at 6:21 pm

Okay, read the article and am outraged that anyone would say that about a Downs baby, or any baby for that matter. In my experience, those with downs are the most loving and sweet people out there. And seeing as there are varying degrees, I think this guy is a damn fool! There are many folks out there with downs who have jobs pay taxes are contribute far more to society then a lot of others do. We need to prowl his sorry a**!

#698 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:22 pm

#693 BillieJo- well, maybe that is better.

#699 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 6:23 pm

#695 mick- they are just doing what they do best….lie, cheat and steal. It will come back to them…..in the form with a great big Puma Puma Stomp on Nov 4th

#700 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 6:23 pm

#695 mick —– Drudged

#701 shampoovta on 09.17.08 at 6:24 pm

hay look at what my friend sent me.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&pop=1&indicate=1

#702 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 6:24 pm

1gypsy… neo fascist organizations like the obama campaign are vindictive and cruel to their enemies..
I’ll tell you what..if I was a public PUMA figure I would be extremely careful and concerned what dirty tricks could be pulled..
if obama gets in he can make such trouble for PUMAS your head would spin..
he could harrass PUMAS many ways..harrasing IRS audits and investigations,grand jury investigations for internet ,fraud tax evasion or embezzlement,debt collection agencies,criminal investigations,health records,licenses,contracts ..the list goes on and on of the things a president has at their disposal to intimidate or destroy their enemies..
if obama gets in be careful..very careful..
if possible dont be so willing to expose your identity in public..thats stupid and dangerous

#703 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 6:25 pm

I could not read the article on PALIN´s baby , it is filthy,revolting , disgusting….etc

#704 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 6:26 pm

#686 osaka puma,

Unions are primarily Democrats from my experience and I think he knew what he was in for before he went…but if he could get his message out and convert just a few of them then it could help him get more votes.

#705 warrior4hillary on 09.17.08 at 6:26 pm

Got an email Nobama wants some feed back, So lets give him something to think about!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/surv9page1

#706 ladyhawkke on 09.17.08 at 6:26 pm

#679 prplvette It’s http://www.hcsfjm.com
You will have to go there and maybe call before the show as Ed is now giving out passwords to sign in to keep the obots out. He e-mailed me mine.

#707 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 6:26 pm

#687 A post that followed on the obie site:

By Cagey, a vigilant member of the Obama.Biden.Defense.League. 24 minutes ago (Updated 24 minutes ago)
Thanks, for this. The fact that so many ex-felons are going to be exercising there voting rights is going to drive the opposition to some dirty tricks. Let’s Be Ready for them, you all!

—————
They think they are the good ones and everyone else is corrupt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MURPHY ************************
This is why the movie needs to come out as soon as possible.

#708 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 6:28 pm

osaka
then , we are in real trouble

#709 mick on 09.17.08 at 6:29 pm

#691 SusyT, Thank you for sharing about your brother, it brings tears to my eyes. I’m so sorry for you loss.

*********************************

#691 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:17 pm

hey Dances,

My youngest brother was a Downs baby. My Mom had him the year she turned 40. I was 17. When I see Trig, it brings tears to my eyes. My brother passed away this past Dec. 1. He looked so much like Trig when he was a baby. You are right about all children. Downs children are so loving and precious. I believe that God gives these children to special families, those who will open their hearts and accept the love and the joy they bring to your life. They do. I’m an expert. Sarah’s family is one of those families.

#710 Rabblerouser on 09.17.08 at 6:30 pm

This is pretty funny, if any one needs a good laugh…

http://www.peteyandpetunia.com/VoteHere/VoteHere.htm

#711 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:34 pm

Mick, thank you. I was happy to share. His name was David and he was a joy. When you have the privilege of knowing and loving a Downs child, you get so much more than you could ever possibly give.
Anyone who could speak those hateful words about a Downs child, should brace his feet, for what goes around, will surely come around!

#712 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 6:35 pm

DWP

What is your email I have some NObama stickers to send you.

#713 BrianH on 09.17.08 at 6:36 pm

Here’s another take on the pullout:
NY & NJ in danger!

//HRC has the best possible relations with the Orthodox of the Tri-State area, and with Malcolm Hoenlein and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. At the same time, the Conference is deeply bipartisan with excellent relations with both parties in Congress and with all possible candidates. This is not AIPAC, but it is a close cousin, and there is no party of candidate favoritism. For Mrs. Clinton to cancel this event, a center piece rally in the Big Apple the day before the UN opens for another year of wackiness, a rally where Mrs. Clinton has spoken before as keynoter, requires more than the offered explanation that HRC was ambushed by the announcement of Sarah Palin’s attendance — and that somehow the presence of a vice-presidential candidate makes the moment partisan.

John McCain is going to be with Bill Clinton this week and no one can spin that as anything less than smart. So why?

The Game Within

New York numbers are shockingly bad for Obama-Biden. The latest is that the candidates are within 5%, which is bizarre and unacceptable. The Democrats win NY state by 15% or more. As my best Democratic source on New York said, “This is ridiculous.” More, there is confirmation from the GOP side and the Democratc side that McCain-Palin are within 3 points in New Jersey. These two blinding stats seem a truer explanation of Mrs. Clinton’s sudden cancellation.

The Obama Team is in a panic.

The Obama Team does not have time, money or staff to work New York and New Jersey. They have to win in the bluest of states without effort. And to look at the field, to consider that the real possibility of a handshake or nod between HRC and Sarah would be enshrined on the front pages of the New York Post and Daily News, was unacceptable.//

#714 janelb1950 on 09.17.08 at 6:37 pm

E-mail and fax prowls done.

#715 Headclunker on 09.17.08 at 6:38 pm

I sent the email and faxes for the prowl but did not call because I am having a major anger problem about Lipstick & Treason. I do not believe I could have maintained any reasonable standard of courtesy on the telephone.

#716 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 6:40 pm

hillary….shake hands with your little sister sarah!!!!!
:)

#717 mkp651 on 09.17.08 at 6:43 pm

#691SusyT

I also have a brother who is downs a sister also. Are parents are gone now so both live with me. They are so much fun. My kids and grandkids all enjoy there company so much. There are really alot of mean people out there. My brother is 50 and my sister is 44. She was adopted by my parents when she was 11 months old.

#718 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 6:44 pm

Is obobo going to get away with the logan act
is he going to get away with everything????????????????????????????

#719 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 6:45 pm

When at a loss for ideas as to how to talk about politics and the election with friends, neighbors, co-workers, see post 596,

OR, for another approach,

see post # 668.

LOL!

#720 Headclunker on 09.17.08 at 6:47 pm

Sarah Palin’s Email

I would not worry too much about Palin’s government email address. Under the Freedom of Information Act, it is public information, anyway. The stupid hackers are probably in more trouble than she is.

#721 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:47 pm

#717mkp651,
They are so much fun. I miss David’s laughter more than anything! He had just turned 42 when he passed. He loved Thanksgiving and Christmas. It isn’t the same without him. Both of our parents are gone now, as well. I know he’s with them and that is a comfort!

#722 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 6:50 pm

was her personal e-mail or the government ´s????

#723 mkp651 on 09.17.08 at 6:51 pm

#721 SusyT

I forgot to say that I am sorry for you loss, I worry about that day when it comes. I am older than both but not that much. I’m off to bed, picked up a flu at my doctors office yesterday. Was fine when I went and now am sick as a dog. Hates doctors offices.

#724 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 6:52 pm

i’m so disgusted with these obama gremlins that all they want to do is destroy sarah palin..
the more they attack her the more protective and concerned I am for her..

#725 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 6:52 pm

Just catching up on posts….

Susy – Oh my God. Losing a sibling is so huge. I am so sorry that your brother, David, died. The loss must feel so raw and fresh. How hard. I’m truly sorry.

#726 Headclunker on 09.17.08 at 6:53 pm

#718 Storytellers

BO is in a no win situation, so he is not going to get off scott free. Even if he can effectively deny it, he still has to call the Iraqi Prime Minister a liar. Not good diplomacy.

The thing is that BO was so STUPID to take his egotrip and place himself in the position to be accused, that it demonstrated clearly he is no diplomat.

McCain/Palin drew blood and the sharks in the water are comming for the feeding frenzy.

We just need to tell everybody who will listen. Blog, blog, blog, post, post, post, talk, talk, talk.

#727 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 6:53 pm

# 677 gypsy – what do you have in mind?

#728 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:53 pm

Mkp651, take care of yourself and thank you for your kind words. Talk again soon.

#729 mick on 09.17.08 at 6:54 pm

#711 SusyT,

I agree 100%. My friend has a son with Downs and he is pure love and joy. A funny but sweet story, one day he was in line at the grocery store with his mom and standing next to him was this big AA man. The man looked very sad and low. He was dirty and looked homeless. Her son turned to the man and said real loud, “I love you”. The man just stood there, ignored the boy and said nothing. Again, he said real loud, “I love you.” My friend tried to distract her son but he wouldn’t stop. He just kept staring at the man, and persistently said, “I love you.” Finally, the man smiled real big and said, “I love you too.”

It was like he knew that this guy needed to hear that he was loved. It just warms my heart thinking about that sweet boy telling a total stranger how much he loved him. :-)

#730 osaka puma on 09.17.08 at 6:54 pm

susy…. people live and die..but love lives forever..
my condolences

#731 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:55 pm

Thank you, Anna.

#732 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 6:56 pm

Mick,,I love that story it is so typical of a Downs child. Osaka puma, indeed…love does live forever!

#733 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 6:57 pm

Headclunker

The secret service and NSA are on the tail of those hackers. They have no idea how deeply in trouble they are!

#734 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 6:57 pm

727 Anna7000 I think Osaka may be right…but I will start using Druge when I see or hear things..

also it was P’s private email that was put on the internet – according to Drudge.

#735 texassherry on 09.17.08 at 7:01 pm

#731 SusyT,

My condolences also. I used to be a Special Ed teacher aide and my students with downs were the sweetest of them all. They are a special group of people indeed.

#736 bobram on 09.17.08 at 7:03 pm

This is for Asian4Hillary – click on this link to see the most updated STATE polls – especially loved the Texas one and surprised at the closeness of Illinois:
Will have a complete campaign assessment by Friday – and suggested action items as well as electoral conditions based on all polls that I am now researching up to date

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

#737 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 7:05 pm

mick

I think Down Syndrome children are a gift from God. There’s something so special about them you just can’t help hugging them. I have a favorite grocery here in my city, I only go there because they have a bagger with Down Syndrome. Every customer calls him “boss” even the checkers. He loves it when customers call him Boss, he have this huge grin and then a very sweet giggle. One time i try to give him a tip for loading up my groceries, he refuse my tip. He said to me, “Sorry Maam, I’m the boss I don’t accept tips for my service.” I have this huge smile! :lol:

#738 SusyT on 09.17.08 at 7:05 pm

Thanks, Sherry!

#739 warrior4hillary on 09.17.08 at 7:07 pm

Did you see this?

Got an email Nobama wants some feed back, So lets give him something to think about!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/surv9page1

#740 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 7:09 pm

asian 4 hillary
it would be good if they are caught that it would be made public and more if they are related to x……., so people wake up and realize what could happen

#741 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 7:10 pm

739 warrior4hillary don’t think so. We called called 4-6 times a day during the primaries. I’m not starting over! Just do an extra one for me! thanks

#742 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 7:11 pm

we got.called

#743 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 7:11 pm

Bobram

Thank you very much sir. It doesn’t look good for NObama in Illinois, I have relatives living in Chicago, they’re democrats but voting for McCain. What made me laugh Bob during primary NObama was bragging he’ll turn Idaho into red state and Alaska. These two states are as red as it gets. He even abandon Georgia now; SC and NC will stay red. Missouri will go red this year the same with Kansas birthplace of his grandparents on mother side.

#744 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 7:12 pm

In addition Bob, Texas is a red state since time immemorial. I think only Lyndon Johnson turn Texas into blue.

#745 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 7:13 pm

There’s a PUMA at McCain’s Town Hall in Michigan! She got called by McCain and asked a question about women’s equality! This is great!

#746 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 7:14 pm

storytellers

Think of Homeland Security, those boys must be thinking they’re doing something cool and brag to their friends about it. We have Cyber Law in the US.

#747 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 7:15 pm

108 greenfunny,
“Hey Donna, do you think it’s possible the country feels BO isn’t ready? If BO loses- it’s because the dem leadership and BO lost it. I guess Donna believes BO needn’t accept any responsibility for a loss in Nov.
She is an unbelievable jack@ss.”

- Way to say it, sister! ;D

#748 LandiPUMA on 09.17.08 at 7:15 pm

NOTES from today’s HANNITY radio program:

Hannity spoke of the gov’t-sponsored Companies Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac and how, through their practices, helped bring about last Monday’s Stock Market “crash.”

Obama has strong ties to Fannie & Freddie and their corruption.

Some of BO’s economic advisors and associates are top dogs in Fannie Mae and they’re part of BO’s campaign.

Between 1989 and 2008, of the 300+ lawmakers who received money from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac, BO is the second largest recipient… and he was only there for 3 of those years.
BO did nothing with all that money in the IL senate or US senate.
Now he claims he had some role in oversight to these industries (a LIE)… and he’s blaming the Republicans and McCain for the crisis.

McCain introduced the federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act in 2005 that, if it had passed, could have helped avert the current Fanny/Freddie crisis. McCain (in his speech when he pushed for the Act) was prophetic in foreseeing what may happen without regulation and warning of the risk in not reforming the F/F enterprises.
BO opposed the Act.

#749 GoHillaryGo on 09.17.08 at 7:16 pm

All expressions of love are maximal.

Love is eternal.

http://www.unitedbeings.com/acim/Chapter%2001.htm

#750 kasota on 09.17.08 at 7:16 pm

#745 pumasupporter – YES, YES, YES! I saw it too. She said she was a democrat, that she supported Hillary, that she was upset that Hillary didn’t get a full roll call vote at the convention and she now supports McCain…..FREAKIN AWESOME. Way to go PUMA!!!!!!

#751 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 7:16 pm

pumasupporter,
But was she wearing a PUMA t-shirt or wearing anything PUMA-related?

#752 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 7:17 pm

No. She said that she was a PUMA on the mic, and that she and some other PUMAs are working hard to get out the vote for McCain.

#753 dcinlasvegas on 09.17.08 at 7:18 pm

Has anyone else seen this? I don’t even know how they got my email address but this is what they sent (sorry, it’s rather lengthy):

It’s the ugliest attack on voting rights we’ve seen in recent history–if you live in Michigan and you’re in danger of losing your home to foreclosure, Republicans will try to take away your right to vote.1

McCain’s response? Silence. Like Bush in 2000 and 2004, he’s trying to keep a safe distance from these tactics, while benefiting from them. McCain could end this with a phone call. But he won’t.

It’s voter-suppression at its worst. They’re taking advantage of folks falling on hard times and using it for political gain–kicking people while they’re down. It’s time to hold McCain publicly accountable for this strategy.

Will you join us in outing McCain for not denouncing these tactics and invite your friends and family to do the same? It just takes a moment:

http://colorofchange.org/michigan08/?id=1947-638603

For years, Republicans have engaged in “caging”–challenging the eligibility of voters on election day to suppress turnout and intimidate voters.2 They’ll often try to reject voters by claiming they don’t live at the address where they’re registered. This year, they’ve taken it to a new low–the chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County, Michigan said last week, “We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses.”3

In other words, they’ll target every voter whose house is on a foreclosure list, and challenge their voting rights on election day. But just because your name is on a list, it doesn’t mean that you’ve lost your home or moved. In fact, many homeowners stay in their homes for months after the foreclosure process has begun, and some people are able to catch up on their payments and reverse the process.4

So why are Republicans illegally targeting homeowners who’ve had a tough time under Bush’s economy? Because they know they’re likely to vote for Democrats, and for Obama for President. In Michigan, over 60% of sub-prime loans were made to African-Americans.5 And in general, people who’ve been hit hard by the economy are less likely to vote for Republicans. This tactic won’t just affect struggling homeowners–it will cause longer lines and delays at the polls for everyone that lives in a neighborhood with a high number of foreclosures. And that’s the point.

After making the plan public, Michigan Republicans are backtracking and claiming they were misquoted.6 But everything indicates that these are exactly the kinds of tactics they’ll use,7 and they’re just trying to squash an embarrassing story.8

Similar tactics are being used across the country, but the McCain campaign simply sits in the background, quietly benefiting from voter suppression. The Obama campaign is fighting against this plan in the courts,9 but they need our help to expose these dishonorable tactics and make this a national story.

If enough of us step up and connect the dots, we’ll give the press a reason to make the connection between McCain and what’s happening in Michigan. And as we’ve seen in our other campaigns,10 when we stand together behind a clear message, the press covers it and moves our message forward.

Calling on McCain to publicly reject these tactics is just the first step in our campaign to shame the Republican Party for attacking the voting rights of struggling homeowners.

Please join us:

http://colorofchange.org/michigan08/?id=1947-638603

Thanks and Peace,

– James, Gabriel, Clarissa, Andre, Kai, and the rest of the ColorOfChange.org team
September 17th, 2008

1. “Lose your house, lose your vote,” Michigan Messenger, 9/10/08
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=1

2. “Caging list,” Wikipedia
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=2

3. See reference 1.

4. “Obama campaign files suit over “voter-foreclosure” plans,” Michigan Messenger, 9/16/08
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=4

5. See reference 1.

6. “Flap over foreclosure challenges in Michigan grows,” Chicago Tribune, 9/16/08
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=6

7. “Former GOP operative explains why Republicans will use foreclosure lists to block voters,” Michigan Messenger, 9/15/08
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=7

8. “Messenger rejects GOP plea for retraction,” Michigan Messenger, 9/12/08
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=8

9. See reference 4.

10. ColorOfChange.org campaign against Congressional Black Caucus debate on Fox News
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=10

11. “D.N.C. Shuns Fox in Debate Schedule,” The Caucus (New York Times blog), 4/5/07
http://colorofchange.org/link/?cat=mich&?id=1947-638603&link=11

#754 kasota on 09.17.08 at 7:19 pm

The camera angle was from the back so you couldn’t see what she was wearing.

#755 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 7:19 pm

The show Lions Share will air in 40 minutes.
5 PM Pacific / 8PM Eastern
Copy and paste the link below:

http://www.Blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/18/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO

#756 storytellers on 09.17.08 at 7:20 pm

the media is mentally sick
if palin would have gotten a prescribed abortion, the media would have ripped her into pieces

#757 Nijma on 09.17.08 at 7:22 pm

The NY event isn’t just a political rally, it’s an anti-Iran rally against a particular political leader. In the Arab world I’m sure this would be viewed as inappropriate meddling or even a sign of possible future aggression on the part of the West. What if Hillary has to negotiate with Iran some day? Better not to have a photo of her at a Jewish rally bandied about the Middle East.

Also she needs to protect her ‘brand’ as DNC, including who is on the same stage, and how much control she has over the venue. Trust her political instincts on this–it’s her back yard and there are so many good reasons on so many levels for her to make socially acceptable excuses.

#758 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 7:22 pm

#736…Bobram…Will be waiting for your assessment. These polls are driving me nuts.

#759 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 7:22 pm

Biden is going to have all he can handle with Palin. I’m watching her and McCain streaming live rightnow at their town hall in MI. She’s very very good.

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream4

#760 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 7:23 pm

#758 – I meant in the VP debate.

#761 hillstheone on 09.17.08 at 7:24 pm

pumasupporter,
WOW! That’s a Big Headline for PUMApac today!!

#762 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 7:24 pm

I saw on another site that someone said Hillary was going to make some sort of public announcement tomorrow..has anyone heard that or anything like that?

#763 mick on 09.17.08 at 7:25 pm

#737 Asian4Hillary,

:-) Great story! I agree that ALL children are gifts from God but IMO what makes Downs children so special is that it’s like their sole purpose in life is to bring us love and joy and put a smile on our face.

#764 pumasupporter on 09.17.08 at 7:25 pm

760, hillstheone, yes it is. When she said she was from PUMA, McCain smiled and nodded his head. This PUMA thing is bigger than anyone realized.

#765 vickie80 on 09.17.08 at 7:28 pm

Did you hear about Sarah Palin’s email account being hacked into and pics of her email being posted on different websites, i.e. huffington post?? Absolutely outrageous!!!!!!!!!

#766 bobram on 09.17.08 at 7:29 pm

#677 1Gypsy I am on it now —-

#767 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 7:30 pm

#758…NobamaDem…Am watching this … Its all ad hoc. Amazing. No script. No teleprompter.

#768 bobram on 09.17.08 at 7:31 pm

CTKEY – what I am discovering is amazing to me as well – I think there is a big wind a blowing SOON

#769 dcinlasvegas on 09.17.08 at 7:31 pm

MURPHY
Could you release my post at 753. It has too many links and is in moderation. I posted it because it shows another facet of what we’re up against.

#770 mick on 09.17.08 at 7:32 pm

758 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 7:22 pm

Thanks for posting this link ~ :-)

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream4

#771 GoHillaryGo on 09.17.08 at 7:33 pm

the real possibility of a handshake or nod between HRC and Sarah would be enshrined on the front pages of the New York Post and Daily News, was unacceptable.//
******************************************

That is exactly the picture I want to see. Glorious. A big picture of the two of them smiling together would be tremendous. Obviously Obambie pulled the plug. He hates all women and could not let it happen.

Well Obie I filp my finger to you.

#772 GoHillaryGo on 09.17.08 at 7:36 pm

I must admit that I am always worried that Obambie might pull it out. The financial crisis on Wall Street is the kind of thing that gives him the opportunity to bounce back. He is lieing up a storm to win votes based on the crisis.

The Attn Gen of US should arrest his butt on Treason for what he did in Iraq. We should demand it. He compromised the entire country for his selfish lust for power. Imagine what he would do if he were president. OMG. God save America.

#773 prplvette85 on 09.17.08 at 7:37 pm

The town hall meeting is on fox now

#774 queen81 on 09.17.08 at 7:42 pm

Just have to shar this story, still makes me smile to this day. Back when I was in retail management an employee’s friend came in with her son who was 20 and had Downs. Well during the course of our visit, he proposed to me and offered me his high school ring…but my favorite part, we were near the magazines and on the cover of one was Sandra Bullock..he pointed and said “she’s pretty, she looks just like you”…well who am I to argue with this fabulous human being…made my year!

#775 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 7:43 pm

#712 Asian4Hillary

me at geemailcom

#776 shampoovta on 09.17.08 at 7:45 pm

Town hall looked good. They were playing as a team. Looked real good.

#777 DancesWithPumas on 09.17.08 at 7:45 pm

The show Lions Share will air in 40 minutes.
5 PM Pacific / 8PM Eastern
Copy and paste the link below:

http://www.Blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/18/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO

I’m off the blog for a few hours now.
If you have anything for teh Action Center, email it to:
actioncenter@pumapac.org

#778 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 7:48 pm

Dances
642 MamaPuma on 09.17.08 at 5:30 pm Dances
I think that you should update Gallop and Rasmussen
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What do you mean?
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I mean that your polling results
Obama 0%
McCain 100%
were much better than the other polls and you should teach Gallop and Rasmussen how to do their polls properly.

Back to prowl work
30,000 emails have gone out.
this is not up to our best work and needs attention.

PROWL!!!!!!!!!

#779 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 7:49 pm

Watched the town hall. They are a team. There is no doubt about that. She is good. He is solid. You won’t see BO pressing the flesh like this with questions form regular folks.

#780 1gypsy4mc on 09.17.08 at 7:50 pm

766 bobram You’re on what?

#781 murphy on 09.17.08 at 7:50 pm

Thanks dwp and mama.

Great work today Pumas, and tomorrow is another day!

Lion’s Share post is up. Feel free to repost comments.

Take it upstairs!

#782 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 7:51 pm

Thanks to whoever posted the link to the Town Hall meeting. I think the best sound bite from it was when Palin said how their opponents keep hammering away about how they will fight for you, but that John McCain is the only candidate who ever fought for you.

(That said, just can’t get excited about this ticket. But, no way can I vote for Obama.)

#783 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 7:51 pm

767 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 7:30

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And the best part…no ah..ah..um..ah! :lol:

#784 shampoovta on 09.17.08 at 7:51 pm

Ya, I think more town hall goodness will be a grate idea.

#785 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 7:56 pm

782 Anna7000 on 09.17.08 at 7:51 pm

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Have to agree Anna. Can’t get excited, but may be comfortable with it for four years. They’re solid, even though I do not agree with half their policies. Still can’t make up my mind how to do NObama on Nov 4. It’s tough without the only one who should be getting my vote even an option – one Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton!

#786 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 8:00 pm

#779 CTKEY on 09.17.08 at 7:49 pm

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What I really liked about their interaction with one another was that he actually let her be the “expert” on the energy questions and even said “Sarah knows more about that then me…” He deferred to her quite a bit to actually let her try to shine on certain issues. Somehow I just do not get the feeling that Oblahblah would want to shut up long enough to let a lowly woman outshine him. :lol:

#787 LotusBoy on 09.17.08 at 8:04 pm

#576 Bluejay – Here is the other side of the story. The links below pertain to Caribou as well as Gwichins info in the Artic.
These links tell me that a slightly different story.
http://www.gwichin.org/map-pch.pdf
http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/ANWR/anwrgwichin.html
http://www.absc.usgs.gov/research/caribou/images/herd-map.jpg
http://arctic.fws.gov/caribou.htm

#788 Dem4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 8:06 pm

Just finished my email prowl!

#789 atypical on 09.17.08 at 8:08 pm

I had two undeliverables so far:
countdown@nbcuni.com and
bwhitney@wkys.com because the mailbox was full

#790 NObamaDem on 09.17.08 at 8:08 pm

Hey folks! We’re upstairs now!

Follow meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee….

#791 atypical on 09.17.08 at 8:09 pm

countdown was just undeliverable period.

#792 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 8:32 pm

Post #289 BillieJo…….Please send that concise, perfectly worded note to everyone possible…to every blog..email…comments to media…YELL it from the rooftops. I will do my part and send it on with your permission…how about all the PUMAs ?? Thanks,BillieJo

#793 EWard on 09.17.08 at 8:34 pm

CNN is an Obama network. I wouldn’t believe their polls. Rasmussen is more accurate.

I’ve been reading the posts about the Obama cyberbullies picking on Trig. This confirms everything about Obama and how he inspires the worst traits in his followers.

#794 BrianH on 09.17.08 at 8:58 pm

Here’s another take on the pullout:
NY & NJ in danger!

“HRC has the best possible relations with the Orthodox of the Tri-State area, and with Malcolm Hoenlein and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. At the same time, the Conference is deeply bipartisan with excellent relations with both parties in Congress and with all possible candidates. This is not AIPAC, but it is a close cousin, and there is no party of candidate favoritism. For Mrs. Clinton to cancel this event, a center piece rally in the Big Apple the day before the UN opens for another year of wackiness, a rally where Mrs. Clinton has spoken before as keynoter, requires more than the offered explanation that HRC was ambushed by the announcement of Sarah Palin’s attendance — and that somehow the presence of a vice-presidential candidate makes the moment partisan.

John McCain is going to be with Bill Clinton this week and no one can spin that as anything less than smart. So why?

The Game Within

New York numbers are shockingly bad for Obama-Biden. The latest is that the candidates are within 5%, which is bizarre and unacceptable. The Democrats win NY state by 15% or more. As my best Democratic source on New York said, “This is ridiculous.” More, there is confirmation from the GOP side and the Democratc side that McCain-Palin are within 3 points in New Jersey. These two blinding stats seem a truer explanation of Mrs. Clinton’s sudden cancellation.

The Obama Team is in a panic.

The Obama Team does not have time, money or staff to work New York and New Jersey. They have to win in the bluest of states without effort. And to look at the field, to consider that the real possibility of a handshake or nod between HRC and Sarah would be enshrined on the front pages of the New York Post and Daily News, was unacceptable.”

#795 BrianH on 09.17.08 at 9:02 pm

Sorry for the dupe posts. Wordpress informed me the first didn’t go thru, so I tried again later.

Do you think the danger of losing NY would make Oblabla clutch at Hillary to replace Biden and save him? Would she agree?

#796 BrianH on 09.17.08 at 9:05 pm

Rasmussen Reports has Sarah beating Joe for POTUS! By 3%. What do you think the margin will be after the VP debate?

#797 BillieJo on 09.17.08 at 9:33 pm

396 bobram on 09.17.08 at 2:46 pm

BILLIEJO – are you sure DrudgeReport is Republican information — all I see is you know whos face on the home page and all articles about him and what he said and how he is going to change the world —- I did not drink the kool aide in fact I almost snapped off one of my puma paws getting out of the door as they were trying to slam in on me to lock me in – OUCH
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The Drudge was always been a right leaning, out there sort of site. There are articles on the web about Obama having advertising to get people on this site, I saw a little box on the top of the page for a few seconds.

Don’t be such a chickenPUMA, lots of people go to the Drudge and many talk show hosts take their info from that site and other websites. The point of putting articles that expose Bo dirty tricks is for others besides PUMAs to see it, right????????????

#798 NoHillaryNoVote on 09.17.08 at 10:49 pm

Anybody heard how this forum turned out?
http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/charlotte_front_and_cente/
“Biden and Clinton held an online video forum with women voters where they took questions on pay equity, abortion rights and other issues. The forum was to be broadcast Wednesday evening on Obama’s campaign Web site.”

The site post also said:
“Advisors to party nominee Barack Obama and to Clinton say that she will resist pressure to speak out against Palin, believing it would diminish her own stature while creating a “cat fight” sideshow that would only distract voters from the contest at the top of the ticket.”

#799 mccaindemo on 09.17.08 at 11:48 pm

Just over at The Confluence….super quote by ‘I’m Not a Fish,Sweetie’ Sept 17……..

“It’s NOT the pigmentation that I’m opposed to… it’s the pig mentality” what a come back for anyone foolish enough to call you a racist !!! (chuckle,chuckle!!!)

#800 Pretjene on 09.18.08 at 9:09 am

I WONDER how Obama’s global poverty tax for 845 Billion is going to fit into our economy? He can’t even take a position on the economy because he has none! WHAT a leader….LOL….

#801 Pretjene on 09.18.08 at 9:13 am

I’ve been reading the posts about the Obama cyberbullies picking on Trig.

Picking on a 5mth old with Downs….HOW PRODUCTIVE, these people make me sick! Keep in mind many of the Obama bots on the net are teenage kids or people who hate America without jobs!

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