Howard Pilots the Swift Boat
We warned yesterday that the Obama Movement and the DONC were preparing to head for the low road. Less than a day later they’re well on their way down into the mud. They’re trying to raise money from Democrats to fund this little pipe bomb of malodorous gas under John McCain.
Remember, Democracy for America, the group begging for money to fuel up the Swift Boats, is the PAC founded by Howard Dean to put his 50-State Strategy into action. It’s what catapulted him into the driver’s seat at the DONC, and is now run by his brother Jim.
Oh, and it’s a pathetically lame attempt at swift-boating on top of everything else. The entire ad is boring, unpersuasive, and embarrassing. The talking-head guy has a sour-puss on and rushes through his innuendo-laden attack as if he’s ashamed to be where he is. He oughtta be.
And another thing. Back in 2006, John Kerry said, “I won’t stand for the Swift Boating of any candidate. Help me in fighting back!” Hmmm, wonder what he’ll have to say about Howard and Obama’s new ad. I hope you’re not holding your breath.
UPDATE: Riverdaughter reminds me of Anglachel’s article from late last night that is a MUST read. Basically, Anglachel is explaining in far more detail and with more background evidence what I was saying last month:
Oh, and the DONC still gets the willies when it gets in close contact with actual representatives of THE WORKING CLASS! EWWWW! I see poor people. YUCK! Why can’t they just go to the dentist for crying out loud? We don’t really have to associate with those freaks do we? (Great way to appeal to voters, Guys).
The thing about Republicans, as wrong as they are about pretty much everything, is that they are UNAPOLOGETICALLY BADASS about their base. They like Christy Todd Whitman and Carly Fiorina and Orrin Hatch, but they LOVE T. Boone Pickens, and Tom Delay, and now, Sarah Palin. Republicans are not embarrassed by the more kooky, less groomed wings of their party — the religious fanatics and gun nuts, the cowboy bizness men who thumb their noses at the law, the down-home shotgun ranch families with more children than dogs or more dogs than children, who can keep count — they LOVE them. They are proud of them and proud to be in the same political party with them.
I don’t think it’s a simple pander for votes (and even if it is, why the hell can’t the DONC learn to do this effectively??) I think a college drop-out like Karl Rove, who makes it all the way to the highest pedestal of power in the world, is absolutely flat-out tickled pink that half of his party is made up of people who have never been inside an Institute of Contemporary Art or an Ivy League library, but yet can still beat the political crap out of every lily-livered weakling in the Whole Foods parking lot. I think they LOVE that stuff.
The DONC, on the other hand? Love their base? Not so much.
The DONC hates their base. Hates, hates, hates us. Wishes we would all just go under a rock and pretend we don’t exist (except on Election Day when they try to shame and goad us into going to the polls for them). I argued then that the RNC is the exact opposite. They LOVE thei r base. Love, love, love them. From the hillbillies to the oil billionaires; the church ladies to the Carly Fiorina’s, the Republicans get all giddy and chest-thumpin’ PROUD when they’re all in the same room together. THAT’S WHY THEY WIN AND WE ALMOST ALWAYS LOSE. Riverdaughter is also a Must Read this morning.
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Carrie - I’m still laughing!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! (#1 this morning)
Am waiting to post so others can get up the stairs…
My downstairs post;
OBAMA, Party Unity My Ass!
goodness Carrie, I’m still wiping the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard at that story!
Murphy Swift boat is also buying ads on facebook. Found some loop hole where they don’t even have to list who they are.
Or, perhaps, Hillary is showing her true colors: she wants to be the center of attention. Just a thought.
The Jewish-American League (or whatever their name is) has come out and said they will not support Obama.
I still think of Howard Dean as that crazy guy who shrieked like a strangled muppet during his failed presidential bid.
If Hillary and Sarah both appear at the rally, the msm will concentrate on them and not the purpose of the rally. Since the UN is in NY, I think Senator Clinton should have been invited. Gov. Palin was invited because she is running for VP. Palin should not have been included as a speaker at the rally.
I was downstairs fiddling around, looked up and everybody was gone. So, I’ll say it again:
I just heard about Hillary pulling out of the UN Jewish rally supposedly because Sarah Palin was also invited. At first I was disappointed, but after a second cup of coffee, I saw the light. I think the Clinton’s know that this would anger many in the Jewish community and the response would be a jump to the McCain side. I read recently that BO has made good strides in recruiting the Jewish vote and this oughta check it. I don’t think the Clinton’s want BO to win any more than any of the PUMAs, but, they have party obligations that we don’t have. If we don’t see a trend of Jewish votes going to McCain, then I’ll go back to being disappointed and more.
#8 stoney42, LMAO another you can’t play…this is my playground…I thought we were grown up??????
scarlettpuma on 09.17.08 at 9:07 am Puma’s I just heard on Fox News that Hillary isn’t attending the Rally outside the UN Monday, because Sarah Palin is to be there. I think we should email Hillary to let her know how disappointed PUMA’s are in her!
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The reason for the cancellation coming from Hillary’s staffers (not Hill herself at this point) is that she was upset because she did not know Palin was also attanding and was unaware this was a “partisan” event. Huh?
With both Dems and Repub’s invited there, it would have been a BIPARTISAN event. It would have only been a partisan event if Hillary was the only one there. This is a private organization, and can invite whomever it wants.
Biden was not invited because he is in the bag for Iran. He has taken a load of contributions from groups linked to the regime in Iran, and has gone so far as to tell Jewish officials in Israel that they needed to get used to the idea of Iran having nukes.
I’ll withhold final judgment until we hear from Hill herself, but this looks incredibly BAD. It makes Hill look like a petulant child. And it makes her look like a partisan hack that refuses to be her glow dimmed by Sarah Palin. I was shocked to hear about this, and it will not bode well with voters, let alone Jewish voters, who support Israel and/or believe Iran is a serious threat to our security.
And it is just another example of the same old partisan bickering that drives people from both parties toward the independent column. How about putting your country before your party, for once?
Why shouldn’t our Country be JOINED in this effort…excuses, excuses, excuses!!!
I can’t blame the organizers… they have to do what they have to do to get attention for their issues…
I don’t blame Hillary for backing out and I don’t blame Palin for accepting.
I do blame Obama and the DNC for putting Hillary in this general predicament she is now in.
Fox showed a picture of a Cougar, but it is one of Puma’s photos and said they have their “claws” out!
Hey , these are African killer bees ,people !!!!! They hurt !!! LOL
“The turmoil in the capital markets is bad news and is forcing each candidate to reassess their current pronouncements on the economy. So, let’s ask some questions. Of the two candidates for President, who got the most money from the two financial giants now in the news–Lehman Brothers and AIG?
McCain received $117,500 from Lehman Bros.
Obama received $370,524 from Lehman Bros.
How about AIG?
John McCain got $36,875 from AIG
Barack Obama raked in $75,899 (+205%)
Got that? Barack Obama, the guy who supposedly is not beholden to special interests, took three times as much money from Lehman Brothers and more than twice as much from AIG.
Gee, and who did the now Government financed mortgage broker Fannie Mae give its money to when it wanted to influence a politician?
OpenSecrets lists the top three politicians in which FNMA “invested” from 1989 to 2008.
Top Recipients of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008Name Office State Party Grand Total
Dodd, Christopher S CT D $165,400
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 ($6000 came from the PAC)
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000
What about McCain?
The folks at Fannie Mae didn’t show him a lot of love. According to Open Secrets:
McCain, John S AZ R $21,550 (all from individuals).
Oh yeah, and who tabbed the former head of Fannie Mae to head up his Vice Presidential search team? OBAMA, that’s who. Back in May Barack turned to Jim Johnson, former CEO of Fannie Mae.
When it came time for a tough decision who did Barack turn to? A former community organizer per chance? Hell no! He went with the inside the beltway uber lobbyist.”
READ MORE: Barack Obama, Wall Street’s Go to Guy?
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/17/who-was-in-wall-streets-pocket/#more-4868
Hillary concedes to Sarah…….Jewish votes now to go to McCain! WOW~!!
The worst of the worst:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A
“Biden was not invited because he is in the bag for Iran. He has taken a load of contributions from groups linked to the regime in Iran, and has gone so far as to tell Jewish officials in Israel that they needed to get used to the idea of Iran having nukes.”
So true.
This action by the Obama camp, just proves that they do NOT have the best interest of OUR country in their plan.
TexasTigress
Well, was the honey worth it? Did you get any?
You could have been hurt very, very badly!
Kempion1. Obama refuses to support protest of Iran at the UN.
I hadn’t heard anything about this please give details??? You know the MSM they don’t say much against their beloved.
Good morning PUMAs
I’m waiting today to see Lynn De Rotschild giving her press conference why she’s endorsing McCain and will campaign for him. Rotschild is not just an ordinary democrat, she’s a member of the DNC Committee. When she said, “I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him,” rings a bell in my head, its the same feeling I have against NObama. What does De Rotschild know about NObama the public doesn’t know? Why she feels she cannot trust him? A committee member of DNC endorsing McCain? That should make ANYONE thinking of voting for NObama think twice voting for him. something stinks here like a rotten fish the DNC and Democratic Party is not telling the American people about NObama.
What we know about NObama is what we’ve dig so far through our own research, and what the media and NObama is saying about his self and we’ve connected the dot. De Rotschild have her info about NObama from WITHIN the DNC committee itself as member of the said committee.
NObama supporters are calling her now racist, these people have just shown their own brand of racism.
Don’t be afraid to express your support for McCain, De Rotschild rise above those threats as I’m sure she’ve received a lot of them from the DNC.
Obama is a fraud and so are most of his dem backers. I am so angry that the MSM is not informing voters. I cannot express how disgusted I am of Obama and his lies.
#22 slyt2
Tune into whichever news outlet you prefer.
#23 Asian4Hillary they just said coming up soon (didn’t say her name but sure that’s who they are talking about).Now coming up soon could be 5mins to a half hour but wanted to give you the heads up
24 kat in your hat Then go on FOX - fair and balanced!
Asian4Hillary it’s on now fox
1gypsy4mc - See , the hive was in an itty bitty crack in a tree , and I recalled that bears will sttick a twig in the crack to get the honey , and justbefore i realized that i was , in fact , not a bear , I plunged my twig into the crack only to anger the entire hive …. They came out slowly at first , causing me to think , “Oh shit” and I casually started jogging across the 3 acres back to the house ,and swatting at them . then I turned and saw a black , angry mob swarming after me . they started stinging me and I started ripping off articles of clothing while my twin girls were running away laughing their asses off at me . Finally i was down to covering my privates with my bandana and running like a Special Olympics atlete(if I were only that good) with body parts flying in all different directions all the way back to the house ! So , the short answer is NO I did not get any freakin honey - until the next day when my neighbor sent a jar home with the girls with a message saying ,” This way is safer ” ……
Pumas, look whos gonna be on ED’S Show, Plains Radio Network’s No Obama Talk show will have as its guest Steve Schmidt, John McCain’s senior advisor, on its radio program tonight (Wednesday) at 7 pm central. Steve will be taking our guestions for 1 hour.
They are also in the process of booking Gov Sarah Palin on our show too. If everything goes right, They will have her in the 2 weeks or so.
My sister the Bee Charmer..LOL
Well, I’m happy to say that I’m a Wal-Mart shopper, i.e., whenever I can get a ride.
McCain leads 58% to 38% among those who regularly shop at Wal-Mart while Obama leads 61% to 36% among those who don’t frequent the retail giant. Overall, Obama leads among those who earn less than $40,000 a year while McCain leads among those with higher earnings. Among white voters, Obama has the edge only among those who earn less than $20,000 a year and his advantage among those lower income white voters is just four percentage points (see crosstabs).
Let;s see…both Obmbo and McCain did a joint appearance at the 9/11 remembrance ceremony, but Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton can not do that as a result of an invitation of the protest group? Why not?
In other words, only Hillary is allowed to protest in public the Iranian hate monger of Israel? Why?
A vice-presidential candidate can not accept an invitation from the protest group? Why not?
Hillary is not appearing because she does not want an occasion where she, the former female candidate for President is seen with the female candidate who by many accounts is drawing former supporters from the Democratic Party….This event became partisan when Hillary cancelled! I am not impressed by her move.
What a great morning PUMAS! Could we have reached the Jewish community to turn towards McCain/Palin? Could we have recruited Lynn De Rotschild to endorse McCain/Palin?
Simple answer…NO! Little by little, secret PUMAS will arise and defeat the evil one! Thanks Hillary for helping!
NO WAY NO HOW OBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
#18 Kempion
HOLY CRAP!!! That is a creepy video. What if we all just stopped paying our taxes?
Did you notice the symbol in the video at 6:22. It is eerily like Obama’s symbol, don’t you think?
#29 TexasTigress LMAO omg you made me spit my coffee out I was laughing so hard, not that you almost got stung but the explanation of special Olympics atlete and you running and screaming I can so picture it in my head.
29 TexasTigress Oh - I have tears rolling down my eyes!!! I have got to meet you one of these days!!!
Kempion
Or, perhaps, Hillary is showing her true colors: she wants to be the center of attention. Just a thought.
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Thank you. I can now delete that reason as a possiblity since your speculations/breaking news/ and other comments haven’t once been right in the time you landed here.
#320 Hillgirl
NICEEEEEE, Thanks for the link.
About HRC not going to the Iran Protest. There could be a zillion reasons why she is not going…..We don’t know. I am sure we will find out
Obama raises 9 million last night with Barbara Streisand in Beverly Hills.
Tough times HUH?
Gypsy and sly - you have twisted senses of humor ! lol
Kat–
It makes me sick that there are so many people out there struggling and losing their homes, and Oboy is out there raising money like that with the rich and famous. Disgusting. That money could be put to good use, but no, they have to support this disgusting fraud of a candidate instead.
LOL Texas count me with them cause I still crack up on that story!
Next time Obama complains about the economy, just imagine him with celebrities in Beverly Hills, like last night, and how they were laughing it up, spending $30,000 on a meal and a Barbara Streisand song.
PHONIES.
Like these people give a crap about the economy.
I’ve been lurking for sometime and really admire what PUMAs are doing. Thank YOU. I saw this today and wanted to share it. Obama says that Capitalism is dead and he solution is him. This is the scariest thing I’ve seen so far. Is he the Manchurian Candidate?
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
41 TexasTigress hey, you were the one with the honey stick!!
Beckle says she isn’t going to bring in votes - P had 7,000 people in Ohio yesterday!!!
Carrie - i can never trust you when i don’t have power again !!!! lol
Oh come on I would so have told that story anyway!
What a great morning PUMAS! Could we have reached the Jewish community to turn towards McCain/Palin? Could we have recruited Lynn De Rotschild to endorse McCain/Palin?
Simple answer…NO! Little by little, secret PUMAS will arise and defeat the evil one! Thanks Hillary for helping!
NO WAY NO HOW OBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
Won’t give to see the Hillary & Bill video…I taped them and the e-mail does not say it is to “pay down the debt” like the ones in the past. NO $$$ for *61 except PUMA dollars!
DancesWithPumas I think Hillary is taking a risk - one that she has to. She cannot afford to lose her base by appearing either for or against Palin. Either way, the media would tear her up. IMHO.
46 TexasTigress hey your twins are worse they stood right there and laughed lol and i said i wasn’t laughing at the almost getting stung part.. man now I have to go to the bathroom.
#42 KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 10:35 am
Yep, poor guy, the timing for this event just sucked for Obie. (snort)
TexasTigress…too funny!
Have to go get another cup of coffee!
How Can a Traitor Swiftboat?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?&
What about the Logan Act?
McCain issued a challenge to BO to answer these charges. What does his BIG MOUTH have to say?
carrie, at least you didn’t tell them about when my nephew was being born and they gave us gowns to go back for the birth and i ripped off my clothes and shoes and went running down the hall into the delivery room with my bare ass hanging out !!! Why do all of my stories end with me naked ?? !!!
How many here can afford a $28,500.00 dinner plate? That amount is at least ONE YEAR budget for a family of 5. NObama can be President for the elite people, they have so much money coming out of their ears they’re throwing it around.
I want a President for the common people, one I can relate to, one who knows shopping in Walmart is not something to be ashame about but makes sense to stretch a dollar.
I bet they’re eating arugula last night. They must be eating steak or lobster made of gold, caviar which pops in their mouth - what freaking special about caviar, IT IS A GODDAMN FISH EGGS GOOD ONLY FOR BAITS!
Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap. Good for you Hillary smart move.
LOL Omg Remember the nurse said “Um, aren’t you missing something??”
Can someone explain to me please something I must have missed. Why do this movie to show on Innaugral day when it could help the cause showing the illegal moves of Obama before election?
I know this must have been explained and I feel lame not seeing it .I just think it would be of use before?? Sorry will wait the reason.
Hillary doesn’t care if the media tear her up, she’s not running for President in general election.
#38 DancesWithPumas
Do as you see fit. You have been nothing short of cranky and unhospitable toward me since my arrival here.
If you had bothered yourself to read my follow-ups, then you would be aware that I corrected myself when necessary. To say ALL I have stated has been wrong is an extremist view.
I come here and post mostly hopeful (if not helpful) comments). For example, this morning I tried to convey to Murphy not to take the death threats too seriously (previous thread). If such things are not welcome, please let me know.
My comment about the POSSIBLE reasoning behind Hillary refusing to show up to protest Iran’s nuclear aims alludes to a greater question: What’s more important here - supporting Hillary or defending voter rights from corruption? however you choose to look at it, Hillary has chosen to put party before country - the Obama party vs protesting Iran.
You don’t have to like me. Frankly, I don’t care for personalities like yours. You have sniped at me repeatedly. There are much better ways to make your objections known to me than posting such comments HERE.
I digress… and I’m out.
Obama for the working people?? Ca. closed raiser like the one he made fun of Pa working people??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC-NhJnl7YA&feature=related
hillary’s stance on Iran
why cant our leaders just stand together one time and show the world we will defend our friends, and they want to be our friends cant they make any kind of concessions as they ask us to do over and over again, time after time
MURPHY!
Where is Howard’s Lipstick?
Texas - we need to find out more about your “natural” instincts here!!
Hey, Obama has the perfect opportunity to meet with the infamous Iranian leader right there in New York City, why not go, not to protest but just meet the man he wants to sit down and talk to, ah America, the land that allows other leaders to come here while America has to meet their leaders in other countries, totally amazing to me.
I’m thinking Hillary had her people tell the Oblahblah campaign bots that this wouldn’t reflect well so that they would make the decision to pull her out.
This accomplishes 2 things for Hillary:
1. She can put the blame on him for cancelling the appearance
2. Obama suffers by losing even more of the Jewish vote
Bill and Hill despise this disgusting excuse of an “American”. I think this move was to hurt him.
Guess we’ll see how it plays out.
OBAMA’s PANIC
by Michael Gerson, Washington Post
Fave quote: “…as a presidential candidate, Obama has run his campaign with all the constancy of a skittish sailboat on an erratic ocean.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/16/AR2008091602876.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
#55 Asian4Hillary on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am
Well, I ate duck gumbo for dinner last night, and I bet it was better than their $28,500 dinner. Plus, it was free, (my dad made it). Lol
Hmm, wonder if Oboy is kicking himself for not taking federal campaign financing?
#62sistermoon3: It appears not.
#60 Kempion don’t go some of us enjoy reading what you have to say
Meanwhile, NYR (and Obama) are still wondering “What do women want” while McCain gets it
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/ny-times-obama-wonder-what-do-women-want-hint-respect/
jane-pa
I am wondering about it too. IF PUMAPAC is contributing money making this film, and that money is coming from members of this organization, why they’re showing the said film during inauguration instead of BEFORE general election?
The film do NOT have an impact to enlighten voters about the truth after November 4. If the person doing this documentary independently, why is it PUMAPAC is contributing money to produce this film? IF our organization contributes money, the said film MUST be release to the public BEFORE November 4.
Murphy, would you please answer this.
Thank you.
#55 Aisian4Hillary
I bet they’re eating arugula last night. They must be eating steak or lobster made of gold, caviar which pops in their mouth - what freaking special about caviar, IT IS A GODDAMN FISH EGGS GOOD ONLY FOR BAITS!
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You crack me up! They should all go for the honey by bear method!!! lol Give em a stick and hey stop going to the movies…I am cancelling netflix too!
TexasTigress on 09.17.08 at 10:24 am
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This is not the Winnie the Pooh I thought I knew…..
Murphy
Just wanted to let you know that there is a story about the puma movement in our local Toledo city paper.
A repoter that traveled to Denver for the convention was talking about the goings on there and reported about the puma’s at the msnbc tent. It was a pretty decent article, so if our little city paper is reporting on it, then other little city papers may be telling the story also.
The major paper here is the Toledo blade, city paper is an independent paper based out of downtown toledo.
#56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am
Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap.
See this is what doesn’t make sense to me what you just said how and why would she attack her when this has nothing to do with the election and it is about standing up for what is happening Iran and a protest.
Ok Texas Tigress you need to stop now or I am gonna have to keep a towel next to me….lmao
OK - Back to Dean-0 We have some really good writers here. Why can’t we do the same thing that Huff-Puff does, and send a really good article to:
American Thinker
Canada Free Press
Real Clear Politics
RCP is always printing crap from sleaze writers, let’s give them something to run with!! We just need to back it up with FACTS!! If we can get one article printed, then maybe we can get more. Even if it is to direct them to the TRUTH!!
The amount of money needed or imagined to run for public office is one of the ongoing reasons why reform is needed in Congress re financing campaigns. And who …what candidate is interested in doing that? Why is our country ruled by millionaires? Why are we?
Because we, increasingly, have become the latter day peons of so called globalization, which is another word for a return to unbridled greed at the expense of country after country…certainly, this country included.
If this cannot be stopped or curtailed, our children and grandchildren will return to the sweat shops of old, just as other countries have. We are fast on our way to that horror. Obimbo is the yesman who will finish this off.
#60 Kempion…before you bolt consider this. Not everyone agrees with everyone else on the blog. I happen to enjoy your posts. I am sure others do as well. This thing with Hillary. Personally, I think she made a huge mistake. Others may see it as a brilliant politcal move. Who is right ? You see my point.
Speak your voice.
GYPSY:
Fox just showed the COUGAR in a heart, by mistake! IT WAS ABSOLUTELY GREAT. BUT THERE IS A STORY COMING \UP.
#75 michelle47 are you talking about the blade??
What a scam. I understand that besides the $28,500, there was an extra fee for hearing Barbra sing a song!
Yes, I ate leftovers last night.
Still wondering if the Obama campaign approved Hillary’s cancellation of the Jewish community rally?
#56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am
“Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap. Good for you Hillary smart move.”
Huh? Why would she have to attack her? If I’m not mistaken, the event has always been a non-partisan event. I don’t think they were going to be on stage together. They were both scheduled to speak about a very inportant issue that effects ALL Americans, not just democrats.
I don’t see how not going is “taking the high road” and more importantly, I don’t see the jewish community seeing it that way either.
#53 Headclunker
Why isn’t there an investigation into this story or more coverage by the MSM? Last night I was listening to conservative talk radio (not easy for me – a lifelong Dem) but they brought up a good point. Following the 1980 hostage crisis, there was an investigation into whether the Republicans interfered with that situation, asking Iran to delay the hostages’ release until after the election to make Carter look bad. There was no evidence, but the investigation went forward just because of the seriousness of the charge. Now, in the current situation, not only is the charge just as serious, but O even admitted to the story’s accuracy!!! This needs to be investigated!!!
On another note, I love Hillary. As a Jew though, I am disappointed in the fact that she will not be attending this rally. I feel like I need to hear directly from her as to whether it is true she will not attend and why.
UPDATE: Riverdaughter reminds me of Anglachel’s article from late last night that is a MUST read. Basically, Anglachel is explaining in far more detail and with more background evidence what I was saying last month:
The DONC hates their base. Hates, hates, hates us. Wishes we would all just go under a rock and pretend we don’t exist (except on Election Day when they try to shame and goad us into going to the polls for them). I argued then that the RNC is the exact opposite. They LOVE thei r base. Love, love, love them. From the hillbillies to the oil billionaires; the church ladies to the Carly Fiorina’s, the Republicans get all giddy and chest-thumpin’ PROUD when they’re all in the same room together. THAT’S WHY THEY WIN AND WE ALMOST ALWAYS LOSE. Riverdaughter is also a Must Read this morning.
OPPS nevermind didn’t see the bottom part I don’t get that paper can I see it online?
80 lilibet I have to hay, so will probably miss it! Darn. Please post the info, OK?
Hollywood, Thugs, Racists and Sexists = Obama
What a Base! With Hollywood’s money, Chicago-style Politics, Race cards and Palin trashers, Democrats have hit all time lows. Who would have dreamed that the Democratic Party we were so loyal to in the past could get so ugly? I continue to be amazed yet so disappointed..
Murphy,Maryland,Dances,Antifish and All Fellow Pumas
STAND STRONG! ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Obama’s fundraisers would better serve paying down the National Debt!
#80CTKEY: I concur. Speak your voice as all of us do and have done. Disagreement does not have to end with discord: discourse is a better end.
#60 Kempion Don’t know if you still on. Did not read the post where you told Murphy to not take death threats seriously…you are kidding aren’t you!?!?!
A death threat is a crime that needs to be reported and the authorities need to make the call. Too many bots have warned of “race” riots if *61 losses. Who are they kidding…they will riot even if he wins!
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
Asian, ya exactly. It was $28,500 per person, and an extra $2,500 for the show. $31,000 STINKING dollars in one night. A person’s entire year’s salary.
At first look, I am really disappointed that Hillary has pulled of her speaking engagement, but when I think about it, I have to agree with Outragedinmaryland that I want to hear directly from Hillary why she made this choice.
My #90 post is intended for Kempion, via CTKEY comment in #80.
#56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am ,
Hillary is doing the high road thing and it will help her in 12. She will not attack another woman(Palin) and will not fall in there trap. Good for you Hillary smart move.
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Yes Jane this is the reason……this is a PRO HILLARY site, she is the reason I and I hope we all are here.
I love that woman and let us give her the benefit of the doubt, she is between a rock and a hard place these days and we have to pull up our big girl pantsuits and SUPPORT HER! NO MATTER WHAT!! SHE WILL BE BACK
#22/25 SLY, YOU CERTAINLY NAMED YOURSELF WELL!
Godzilla,
I liked (really liked) your letter to the pollsters about needing to factor in the PUMA effect.
I have to work today so when you get your letter done please post it on this page several times so I can find it quickly & send it out at lunch, thanks & great job.
TexasTigress #29,
That is the FUNNIEST story I have heard in a LONG time!
But very glad you were not injured. then it wouldnt be a funny story.
But MAN! you tell a good story!
Murphy
Like Obama gives a crap about the damn economy, getting his Oblow followers to have to worry about supporting his stupid campaign.
If Obama ever gave a crap about people, he would have taken the public campaign money like he promised he would, but NOOOO, he has to keep jacking his supporter’s wallets. His dumb faithful followers skip meals to support his ass and he’s out with the richies, laughing it up with Barbara Streisand. Effing phoney.
UGH, I cannot stand him.
Good Morning Pumas,
I see many here agree with me that Hillary pulling out of the rally is a very bad idea. It seems to be motivated by the same partisan politics that have caused a veritable stalemate in Congress while our country falls down around our ears.
I encourage you to do as I did and voice your displeasure by going to Senator Clinton’s site and sending her an email. You can further demand that she explain her decision publicly.
#92 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:04 am
We’ve just seen ELITICISM of NOBAMA right out in the OPEN. 95% of US population cannot afford NObama’s LUXURY! Are these people sending their hard earn money to NObama campaign are as rich as the people NObama rub elbows in Hollywood? I bet he was telling those people last night while eating their freaking outlandish meal people in small town America are stupid, bitter and clinging to their guns and religion. If he talk about us behind our backs in San Francisco during a private fundraising; NOTHING will stop him to do the same last night!
Texas,
Maybe next time you should at least try to disguise yourself as a rain cloud before stealing the honey. At least that is what Winnie the Pooh did.
Oh yeah, it didn’t work out so well for him either. He ended up hiding in a mud puddle after being chased by the bees. LOL.
TexasTigress You are now unofficially named: She who runs with Honey Stick…….
Hey! Did ya’ll see this article. There’s a picture of Hill marchers in Denver with it - any Pumas in there?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Obama-Will-Face-a-Tough-Time-Keeping-Clinton-Voters-In-The-Face-of-Palin-Power/Article/200809315100627
Excerpt:
‘ “24% of those who backed Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary now support John McCain, up from 14% on August 26.”
This statistic, buried deep within Quinnipiac University polling out of Florida is a reversal of the trend that we’ve been seeing all summer.
So what’s going on here?’
antifish:
It is good she is not going! I cannot stand her lying to jews and telling that Obama is the man to vote for.
Also, with her gone, and Palin in, it could help with the jew vote for McCain.
Any public event Hillary cancels is good! One less opportunity to yap about Obama.
headclunker #64, I dont know. I think dwp has it!
Donna Brazille in a Politico article.
She said that at times “Obama’s voice is strong and articulate, but people don’t feel attached to him, and they have got to feel attached to him. That would answer some racial aspects that simmer below the radar and sometimes percolate over the top.”
“He has had some moments where he seems unsure of his own voice,” Brazile said, “but I still think he can pull this off.”
And if he doesn’t?
“If he doesn’t, then Obama didn’t lose,” she said. “The country just wasn’t ready.”
Hey Donna, do you think it’s possible the country feels BO isn’t ready? If BO loses- it’s because the dem leadership and BO lost it. I guess Donna believes BO needn’t accept any responsibility for a loss in Nov.
She is an unbelievable jack@ss.
Besides, it would be a spectacle, and ruin the whole point of the cause for the day which is to protest.
Also, Hillary doesn’t want the “smiling Palin/ Hillary shaking hands” photo all over the news.
hey murphy,,I think it’s a great idea you have for meeting up nov 4th..I live in allentown pa & would be more then happy to open my home up to the puma’s,,but here r somethings I think we need to think about..I don’t know how many puma’s there r,,but I think we need to spread out across the country,swing states for sure..I know where I am some may be to scared to even go into polling places if they see a bunch of obots standing outside…I think we need to be in groups in some of these area so that all people feel safe when going to vote…what do you’s think???
#86Murphy: True! ..moreover ..they love anybody who is not a part of their base but who for whatever pragmatic or other reasons becomes a temporary part as in this election cycle…This is the essence of politics, the ability to gather and direct any and every possible support for as long as it takes to win. That used to be the purview of the Democrats in the “old days”…
Whoopssssssssss there it is!
Matthews and Olbermann might just start shopping for a job soon.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashtwn.htm
Ok , Ok , While I love to be the “Butt ” of a good joke ( I really do) I feel guilty for not being focused ….
I am going to prowl all of our media contacts with the Logan act stuff again - if anyone comes up with something else for me to do - holler ! 
“She who runs with Honey stick ” roflmao !!!
I have question for anyone who would know. Usually I send links of good articles to friends and family, but it is much easier to get them to read the article if I send the whole thing and not just the link. Is that a legal thing to do if I make sure that the author’s name is there and the name of the website, or do I have to ask the author’s permission?
I dont know the inner workings of the Dem. party especially now. I dont trust Obama and was thinking he set Hillary up somehow. We think of this as a protest that should be but I think he only thinks of number 1 and politically. I may be wrong and was museing outload for input from you all. Thanks and wish I had the ans to it all. I just dont trust BO at all on anything.That is the one thing I am sure of
#96 lilibet on 09.17.08 at 11:05 am
#22/25 SLY, YOU CERTAINLY NAMED YOURSELF WELL!
lilibet you lost me on that comment.
I believe that we need to write a letter to Barbra Streisand and give her the facts on her chosen one! Just read her remarks, no wonder she never sang the whole songs last night…she is on kool-aid!
http://www.barbrastreisand.com/index.php?page=statements&n_id=828
#101 antifish on 09.17.08 at 11:09 am
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You are right Antifish. I worked my tail off for this women, she was the BEST canidate the dems have put forth in such a long time and would have been the BEST POTUS the world has seen for quite a while. But seriously, this move shocked me. I nearly fell out of my chair this morning when I first heard the report. Yes it is clearly partisan posturing, yes it was not a very good move for her politically at all. For one thing, she is very popular among the Jewish constituency, and this will put a major dent in that. I cannot imagine why she would do something like this. It’s not an astute political move, NOT Hillary Clinton at all.
I agree, send her a note now Pumas! Let her hear about it. She’s listened to us before, she needs to listen now as well.
Kempion on 09.17.08 at 10:08 am Or, perhaps, Hillary is showing her true colors: she wants to be the center of attention. Just a thought.
The Jewish-American League (or whatever their name is) has come out and said they will not support Obama.
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Good Morning Pumas.
The Jewish American Leaque will not support Obama, bravo for them, take that Barbara Striesand listen more closely to your elders and intellectuals!
TexasTigress: Some kind of beegod was watching over you! These wild bee hives can be huge…Listen to your “mama”, “GURL” !!! Given her comment to you, I see where some of your humor comes from!
NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:25 am TexasTigress: Some kind of beegod was watching over you!
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You think the beegod protected her beehind?
Help
Pumas, I’m looking for that video about caucus fraud that was out a while back. Not our PAC ‘Audacity of Democracy’ video - there was nother one out as well. I think it was in four parts. Was pretty good. I’m sending a copy of the AOD video clips and would like to inlcude that other one also, to my sister who’s clearly drunk the Kool-Aid and keeps trying to get me to drink as well. BWAAAAAHAAAAA! not going to happen!
Can someone direct me to that other video? Thanks!
#29 TexasTigress ,
ROFLMAO
You are too funny. I do hope that you are alright though.
#121Grizzly: Oh yes, Grizzly…no doubt about that one!
(Your comment made me laugh outloud!, as I also did with Texas Tigress’s story!)
Oh man, I’m tempted to give them some money so they can run with that ad. It will hurt, hurt, hurt them, I say, Not John McCain. Unlike Democrats, who grumbled and looked away as Kerry was being smeared for his service, Republicans will rally and make a bit freaking stink about this (as well they should, the man was POW AFTER ALL. Sheesh!). This will backfire. And I almost want to help them fall off that cliff. But I can’t. Too broke, and I don’t play that way. Thanks for the tip!
95 HP Boston on 09.17.08 at 11:05 am #56 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:43 am ,
she is between a rock and a hard place these days and we have to pull up our big girl pantsuits and SUPPORT HER! NO MATTER WHAT!! SHE WILL BE BACK
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I agree with both of your statements, I will always back Hillary and her decisions because she can see the underpinning of any political situation and adjusts to the appropiate conduct…
#126TerryDo: I support Hillary Clinton. I do not support her support of Obama. I do not think it appropriate at all.
I understand this is not a new comment here and I do not want it to be a point of contention, etc. I just wanted to share with you and others my view, as the occasion of the cancellation has brought up the what and why is she doing this issue, again here. So we comment! And that is good, I think, regardless of conclusions.
Anyone spending anytime over at the BloggerBoiz? Dont know how you do it, but if so, what’s the mood in Obama Nation?
Jane PA:
I agree with you. I find it very difficult to be excited about the tardy release of the movie. I imagine there must be a good reason or reasons.
The boys from Red State now advising Ralph Nader?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYKyts6EdSw
Sarah palin will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight.
I surprised to see the Puma sign … “Puma with a wink inside the heart” on Fox. What was that about? The anchors seemed little surprsied to see it on the screen. But pleased. (Or is that my projection?)
September 17, 2008
Obama’s Panic
By Michael Gerson
“…Obama’s campaign is rootless, reactive and panicky. At every stage since securing the nomination, it has seemed fearful of missteps and unsure of its own organizing principle.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/obamas_panic.html
Oops 132 “surprised” I am a terrible typist.
#110 mspecht on 09.17.08 at 11:13 am
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Wonderful idea! Group Puma voting on Nov. 4. There is definitely safety in numbers, and it would make it less potentially intimidating if you’re in one of those areas, to go to the polls that way.
In my small town here in Central PA, I really do not need to worry about that - I’m in the heart of Repug country. I believe there are probably 5 Dems in our rural county. Reason I know that is because when Big Dawg Clinton came to visit us during the primaries, all 5 of us from our county there in line together taking stock of our situation!
Once inside I ended up chatting with a true blue repug who had utmost respect for Bill’s statesmanship abilities, had switched to dem to vote for Hillary, and stated emphatically that if John McCain did not win the election, he would feel quite content with Hillary being the POTUS, but that he’d never vote for Oblahblah. I asked him point blank if he was one of those El Rushbo Operation Chaos voters, he said no way. He just trusted the Clinton’s more then he’d ever trust Oblahblah, and that was his strategy by switching - if not McCain then NObama! Gotta love it.
#132 PumaPal
Saw the winking PUMA on Fox — they actually used it to introduce a story about two older women who were suing a snotty reality TV show after they were caught up in a hidden-camera episode making fun of older women who intentionally seek out younger men (aka: cougars).
Murphy should consider a copyright infringement lawsuit — LOL!
#131 kat in your hat on 09.17.08 at 11:40 am
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I’m sure Shawn Hannity will be lobbing soft balls, but that’s ok I guess. Especially after what ABC and Charlie Gibson did to her during their interview. Blatantly editing out half her answers to make her look stupid. No way, now how, no trust the media!!!!
I went to a victory rally in Vienna, OH yesterday for McCain-Palin. The President of the AFL-CIO who was a Hillary supporter, endorsed McCain. I spoke to many people there that were for Hillary and now are for McCain. I passed out a few Puma business cards…many people were interested. BO is really losing ground…people were saying they just don’t trust him! We need to continue spreading our message!!
Nobamadem-
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/
I was watching FOX last night (yeah, I know) and saw Greta’s interview with Todd Palin. Seemed like a good guy. More interesting was a very short interview with the creator of a documentary about outstanding women across the world. It was done some months ago. The man seemed to be French. Said Palin was smart, focused, calm, very nice and exactly the same off-camera as she was on camera. He liked her a lot. For what it’s worth.
#137 NObamaDem:
Ya, Hannity will be softer on her, but he will ask serious questions as well.
It’s a two part interview, tonight and tomorrow.
Good morning Pumas,
Has anyone seen this article ?
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Interesting!
I don’t knnow what to think about Hillary!
carrie -please post the link to the puma facts site so I can fav. it on this laptop and so NObamadem can use it. Thanks
in a way this comment by barbara S. is a compliment of just how powerful the selection of Palin was.
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“John McCain has served this country. No one in this election is denying him that. But his selection of Governor Palin has demonstrated that he is willing to put his desperation to win this election above the welfare of the American people”
How do you get email addresses to be red! I copied
and pasted.
Okay, two big news in CNN:
Hillary cancelling an event where Sarah Palin will be attending! Ah?
Big Hillraiser from DC backing and endorsing McCain, what a big surprise!! I love it!
Aw, some guy who owns a small zoo swam in the TX flood waters with a lion and they wound up sleeping in a church. Other people slept in the church with the lion.
(All the animals of the zoo are now accounted for, no more roaming tiger.)
Did anyone see my post #114 above:
I have question for anyone who would know. Usually I send links of good articles to friends and family, but it is much easier to get them to read the article if I send the whole thing and not just the link. Is that a legal thing to do if I make sure that the author’s name is there and the name of the website, or do I have to ask the author’s permission?
Does anyone have an answer? Murphy?
#117 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 11:22
http://www.barbrastreisand.com/index.php?page=statements&n_id=828
In spite of what Babs and others think, Sarah Palin was not put on the ticket to court liberal Democrat women.
Palin was put on the ticket to accomplish two things:
1. To firm up and energize McCain’s support with 2 very important parts of the Republican base–the Evangelical Christians and the Pro-Life community.
The Evangelicals were not comfortable with Romney at all, a Romney VP nod would not have sent Evangelicals to the Obama ticket (because that’s not how voters behave) but instead would have made Evangelicals reluctant McCain supporters. Reluctant supporters don’t always make it to the polls. If the weather is bad, the baby is sick, or they get ‘busy’ they don’t vote. It’s not intentional behavior, but it’s what happens.
The Pro-Life wing of the GOP has grave concerns about McCain and embryonic stem cell testing, as well as his choice of potential Supreme Court judges. They are worried that McCain will put up one good nominee, who will get shot down by the Democrat-controlled Senate, and then McCain will nominate someone who can be confirmed, rather than continuing to force the Senate to reject excellent candidates.
Palin’s nomination gives the Pro-Life community the feeling that there will be someone with strong Pro-Life convictions whispering in McCain’s ear and helping to give him some backbone where those judicial nominations are concerned.
2. Excitement. If McCain hoped to step on Obama’s thunder, he had to name a running mate who would get people talking and just another white guy wasn’t going to do that.
McCain needed to secure his base and excite … he did both with a Palin pick. IF he gets some female democrat votes, … well, that’s icing on the cake.
Just my 1/2 cent.
@147, can you imagine that situation? Must have felt so surreal, like the end of the world. Homes totally disappearing. awful. swimming with lions…christ.
Nobama,,I was thinking that in some of these areas if we could have some puma’s & repubs standing outside of some of these places so that the elderly and others fealt safe to go in and out of polling places…we need to put people in the places that need it most!
While it is certainly true that there are some persons here in agreement that it was a bad idea for Hillary to bow out from speaking, there are many more of us that trust Hillary to do the right thing and will continue our unabashed support or her. It occurred to me that perhaps Hillary WANTED TO GIVE SARAH ALL THE ATTENTION.
Well, I think the Pumas have gotten the word out about the polls. The San Antonio office said they have had “many democrat and Independent folks” offering to help at the polls and with data!! They are not turning anyone away!! They need help with data entry bad!!
A request for a donation from the Democratic Party was preceded this morning by my listening to WTKK. My reply:
‘This is where Obama states that the American people are basically decent, just confused by listening to the ‘wrong’ radio stations and watching the ‘wrong’ television channels. And he will change all that for us, because only he can end our confusion.
I, for one, do not need or want someone else deciding which radio station to listen to and which television channel to watch.
And the fact that he refers to the American people as ‘THEY’ should make anyone wonder, who is HE?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3386492
#149 Mick
BINGO!
148 KarlaforHillary Once it’s posted online , it is not protected . it’s nice that you give the authors credit though .
127 NewOrleansPuma on 09.17.08 at 11:38 am
#126TerryDo: I support Hillary Clinton. I do not support her support of Obama. I do not think it appropriate at all.
I understand this is not a new comment here and I do not want it to be a point of contention, etc.
I would concur with your statement that “I do not support her support of Obama”
However, unless one knows and understands why Hillary is supporting Obama then and only then can one state whether it is appropriate or non-appropriate.
That is just my humble opinion, of course.
I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT HILLARY, SHE IS MY NUMBER 1! No matter what she does in THIS disgusting display of an election.
She earned my support in 2008 and I am sure she will EARN it in 2012.
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
122 NObamaDem
There are several videos related to caucus fraud in the http://pumapac.org/action_center.html
Click on the Voter and Caucus Fraud link
Karla, not only is it perfectly legal, the original sources are jumping for joy when you spread their messages around the internet.
Dont worry a pin.
In fact, you should send them a bill for your publicity work,
Barbnobo,
In the trenches! you go girl!
So, did you hear McCain openly mocking Obama for his double-talk and flip-flopping?
From FOX: “Clinton bails on U.N. rally against Ahmadinejad after learning organizers invited GOP veep pick Sarah Palin.”
I can see where Ms. Clinton might have thought her and Palin together would have overshadowed the event. That said, Ms. Clinton should have honored her commitment.
KarlaforHillary on 09.17.08 at 11:58 am Did anyone see my post #114 above:
I have question for anyone who would know. Usually I send links of good articles to friends and family, but it is much easier to get them to read the article if I send the whole thing and not just the link. Is that a legal thing to do if I make sure that the author’s name is there and the name of the website, or do I have to ask the author’s permission?
Does anyone have an answer? Murphy?
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KarlaforHillary, yes you can copy and paste a complete article and email it to friends or family, normally you make sure the author’s name is included, one to respect their work and two, it helps your recipients to further research that person’s work further if they so desire…
Are we gonna get a prowl today? Did I miss one for yesterday? I mean other than Individual Prowls.
Just sent the Prowl to the Presses.
Should be in your inboxes shortly!
#149 mick Agree but this is what I had an issue with Barbra S., she needs a PUMA education on her chosen one!
“I believe John McCain chose Gov. Palin because he truly believes that women who supported Hillary—an experienced, brilliant, life-long public servant–would vote for him because his Vice President has two x chromosomes. McCain’s selection of Governor Palin is a transparent and irresponsible decision all in the name of trying to win this election.” and
“This calculated, cynical ploy to pull away a small percentage of Hillary’s women voters from Barack Obama will not work. We are not that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Please vote— I know never are prue but I am not over the Obama primary slim http://www.politico.com/index.html Fair and square
Which candidate do you think has been running the more honorable campaign?
John McCain
Barack Obama
#152 - lilibet - I was thinking the same thing. Hillary also knows that if she is there with Palin, the media focus will be on the two women being together at the same venue, not on the event itself. Perhaps she is just trying to bring the focus back to the event??? Food for thought. IMHO.
Thanks Texas, Murphy and Terrydo. I will sent out articles without worry.
The Democratic Party is UNFIT even to be majority in Congress. Fact of the matter is, the mind boggling collapse of Wallstreet has MORE to do with Democratic lead Congress than Bush itself. McCain supported a proposal in 2005 to oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; what the democrats in the senate had done? KILLED IT!
And now the Democrats are busy LYING to the American “don’t blame us.” The crash of our housing has MORE to do with the Democratic Party than the GOP. We all have to face the truth instead of acting blind what the Democrats in Congress are doing. Being hoodwinked by party loyalty is not the way to live.
#167 sandtraps
Wow, you can tell the Obamabots are out. We need more people to take the poll:
John McCain 26 %
Barack Obama 74 %
TOP Clinton Fundraiser backing McCain
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20080917/McCain.Clinton.Backer/
Politico poll:
Fair and square
Which candidate do you think has been running the more honorable campaign?
John McCain 26 %
Barack Obama 74 %
Results are based off 4305 votes
Good news!!!!!!
http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/17/the-big-ticket-pumas-start-defecting/
I voted. it’s easy and fun:
http://www.politico.com/index.html
SLY:
I was referring to the comment you made, as it was something that I have resisted making for a long time. I just did not to include names. Because of the diversity of Pumas there are many who enjoy posts that others may find offensive, and I do try to respect the opinions of all.
Murphy….It was great to hear McCain mocking BO and Barbara S! I could not believe how many people said that they were formerly for Hillary…The area we were in is predominately democratic and there were at least 5,000 people there.
166 NoMoreInFL on 09.17.08 at 12:16 pm #149
Oh I agree, Babs definitely needs a reality check about Obie.
“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don’t like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”
“Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.”
http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/17/the-big-ticket-pumas-start-defecting/
PS They never mention that she was a self-made multi-millionaire before she married. The omission creates a gold-digger impression. Just saying…
Hey y’all. I just heard from Prowland. I told her all about the site and she said she was so pleased and had no idea that the site would do this well. She also asked for an update on political news because she had now way to hear what was going on. I told her as much as I could. She said it could be up to 3 more weeks without electricity. She said they were doing okay but she missed the internet. She said to tell everyone hello and that she missed us.
#157TerryDo: And I accept your “humble” opinion!
Perhaps I should clarify: It is not appropriate from my point of view relative to what I think she should have done in regard to him,who by her own campaign tactics and language revealed why the man is incompetent. Cetainly, you are right: no body knows why she felt for her it was appropriate. If and when that story ever is known, I know I won’t be around on the earth to hear it…but I still will be interested ! ..as each and every one of us will also,I am sure. And, by the way, Terrydo,
I don’t think your opinion is humble..I think it is …appropriate!!! Cheers to you.
MURPHY-
What is the email address for the Action Center re: corrections, suggested additions, etc?
Have you seen this??
Dear Mr. Obama: Who Are You?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aBNduAyQ4
(I was getting mesmerized by the O-masks.)
actioncenter@pumapac.org
research drops you off at boycotts…
at work cannot correct from here. Interested in hearing about all other corrections/glitches, etc.
thanks
#177 BarbNOBO
Your OHIO report is verrrrrrrrrrrry encouraging!!
Asian4Hillary, great link. I commented on the article.
I have a pet peeve with people pretending that “elite” and “elitist” are synonyms.
Eleanor Roosevelt was not an elitist. Neither was Robert Kennedy. Many, many members of elite groups are NOT elitists — most pro athletes for example. Or, how about Bill Clinton?
#184
Thanks Dances!
actioncenter@pumapac.org
This email address shoud also be added to the action center page.
Palin Will Meet with Foreign Leaders at the United Nations General Assembly
this is certainly a common sense way of meeting them and introducing herself to them, unlike the (some part of obama’s european tour) paid for by the american taxpayers
TX Tigress:
Thank goodness they were not those “killer bees”. When I moved to Brownsville. TX in1984 my brother asked if I wasn’t afraid of Communists from Mexico. I answered him saying, I’m a lot more afraid of the “killer bees.”
BTW, I ‘m pretty sure he was kidding about the Communist remark.
Murphy:
Who won in Mass?
O’Reiley? (spell?)
TexasTigress
Great story telling.
Have you read The Secret Life of Bees?
This is a great article by Susan Estrich. Though y’all might enjoy it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421741,00.html
This is about Dean How he hired a pundit from Daily Kos to work for him, etc.
Campaign Crawlers
Howard Dean’s Shrill Shill
By Patrick Hynes
Published 1/14/2005 12:05:25 AM
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7631
Though=Thought
#181 NewOrleansPuma,
My opinion is….I am so tired of trying to read between the lines and read body language. The truth is we have no idea what Hillary is thinking or doing. I will be so glad when this election is over and hopefully she will come out and tell us what she REALLY thinks and what is REALLY going on.
#59 jane-pa on 09.17.08 at 10:45 am
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I was sort of wondering that myself. Although I understand that part of our mission here is to take back the party and part of that being primary election reform within the party, this could help with our mission of NObama. We are going to need all the ammunition we can get because this will be a close election.
Confirmed: Obama / Biden Demand that Iraq Not Negotiate w/Bush Admin on the Withdrawal of Troops
Washington Prowler
By The Prowler
Published 9/17/2008 12:08:47 AM
STANDING BY THE STORY
The Obama campaign spent more than five hours on Monday attempting to figure out the best refutation of the explosive New York Post report that quoted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari as saying that Barack Obama during his July visit to Baghdad demanded that Iraq not negotiate with the Bush Administration on the withdrawal of American troops. Instead, he asked that they delay such negotiations until after the presidential handover at the end of January.
The three problems, according to campaign sources: The report was true, there were at least three other people in the room with Obama and Zebari to confirm the conversation, and there was concern that there were enough aggressive reporters based in Baghdad with the sources to confirm the conversation that to deny the comments would create a bigger problem.
Instead, Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi told reporters that Obama told the Iraqis that they should not rush through what she termed a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of U.S. forces until after President Bush left office. In other words, the Iraqis should not negotiate an American troop withdrawal.
According to a Senate staffer working for Sen. Joseph Biden, Biden himself got involved in the shaping of the statement. “The whole reason he’s on the ticket is the foreign policy insight,” explained the staffer………
Thought this was interesting. If no one has seen it!
#18Murphy: Neither was FDR nor was John Kennedy. One can be a member of an elite group, mades so by money, status, power, or world view. An elitist, to my mind, is someone who either in reality or in their imagination holds that “apart” one, by that difference, has the right and obligation to hold anyone not of that group with disdain, and thus, with control over those disdained.
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I got a letter from Howie asking for money and I can hardly wait to comply…
My niece works at the MVR Club Restaurant in Youngstown, Ohio and John & Cindy McCain were there yesterday for Dinner. She was soooo excited, she told me that John McCain looked smaller than she t