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	<title>Comments on: Obama Turning New Jersey Red? Say it ain&#8217;t so, Bruce!</title>
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		<title>By: GoHillaryGo</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/16/obama-turning-new-jersey-red-say-it-aint-so-bruce/comment-page-22/#comment-155771</link>
		<dc:creator>GoHillaryGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just now watched Campbell interview Lady Rothchild on CNN.  Campbell is terrible.  kept interrupting her.  But I think she got her point across as to some important problems with Obama.  

Obamba does seem to be taking advantage of the financial crisis which his lies.  Obama is such a ZERO.  How is Berg doing on his lawsuit.  what is happening in Texas with Barr suing to remove the Dems and Repubs off the ticket for filing a day late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just now watched Campbell interview Lady Rothchild on CNN.  Campbell is terrible.  kept interrupting her.  But I think she got her point across as to some important problems with Obama.  </p>
<p>Obamba does seem to be taking advantage of the financial crisis which his lies.  Obama is such a ZERO.  How is Berg doing on his lawsuit.  what is happening in Texas with Barr suing to remove the Dems and Repubs off the ticket for filing a day late.</p>
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		<title>By: GoHillaryGo</title>
		<link>http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/16/obama-turning-new-jersey-red-say-it-aint-so-bruce/comment-page-22/#comment-155761</link>
		<dc:creator>GoHillaryGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe PUMA are properly included in all the polls.  What is missing is that everyone I talk to has never heard of PUMA.  We are a tiny minority.  We need to get people to know who we are.  We need a million PUMA or 10 million PUMA.  

Although we are very small as an orginized PUMA.  There are a few millions who are doing what we are doing.  We need to reach them to encourage them to do the right thing and make sure they all vote etc.  Support is very important.  Seeing that many other people agree with you gives them power to carry out their vote properly.

I am shocked that everyone I tell them I am PUMA and they all say they dont know what that means.  

After all how many names are logged on this blog.  certainly not the 18 million we represent.  most people seem to pay little attention to politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe PUMA are properly included in all the polls.  What is missing is that everyone I talk to has never heard of PUMA.  We are a tiny minority.  We need to get people to know who we are.  We need a million PUMA or 10 million PUMA.  </p>
<p>Although we are very small as an orginized PUMA.  There are a few millions who are doing what we are doing.  We need to reach them to encourage them to do the right thing and make sure they all vote etc.  Support is very important.  Seeing that many other people agree with you gives them power to carry out their vote properly.</p>
<p>I am shocked that everyone I tell them I am PUMA and they all say they dont know what that means.  </p>
<p>After all how many names are logged on this blog.  certainly not the 18 million we represent.  most people seem to pay little attention to politics.</p>
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		<title>By: HP Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1081  BILLEJO 
 Also, my guess it that the polls assume that those of us that are and will remain registered as Democrats will vote for our party, what they do not know is most of us will vote Repub at the top of the ballot. __________

Maybe it is best to keep them in the dark,

WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING!

I love that line from Murphy, and if they don&#039;t see us they won&#039;t fight us, just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1081  BILLEJO<br />
 Also, my guess it that the polls assume that those of us that are and will remain registered as Democrats will vote for our party, what they do not know is most of us will vote Repub at the top of the ballot. __________</p>
<p>Maybe it is best to keep them in the dark,</p>
<p>WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING!</p>
<p>I love that line from Murphy, and if they don&#8217;t see us they won&#8217;t fight us, just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: BillieJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillieJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1081  Godzilla 

    PUMA ACTION ALERT suggestion.
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Also, my guess it that the polls assume that those of us that are and will remain registered as Democrats will vote for our party, what they do not know is most of us will vote Repub at the top of the ballot. Another thing I read is that when the pollsters call people, some are not willing to vote for someone outside their race but are not honest telling that. They take this from an AA in Calif that was up in the polls and was off from 4-6%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1081  Godzilla </p>
<p>    PUMA ACTION ALERT suggestion.<br />
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Also, my guess it that the polls assume that those of us that are and will remain registered as Democrats will vote for our party, what they do not know is most of us will vote Repub at the top of the ballot. Another thing I read is that when the pollsters call people, some are not willing to vote for someone outside their race but are not honest telling that. They take this from an AA in Calif that was up in the polls and was off from 4-6%.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1081 Godzilla;
Actually, the PUMA factor shows up as registered Democrats voting Republican.  Look at any breakdown that shows that segment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1081 Godzilla;<br />
Actually, the PUMA factor shows up as registered Democrats voting Republican.  Look at any breakdown that shows that segment.</p>
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		<title>By: Godzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PUMA ACTION ALERT suggestion. I think we should prowl the hell out of the polling companies, Zogby, Rasmussen, Gallup, all of them. Their sampling data does not account for PUMAs. McCain is actually more ahead than the polls show. For example, look at this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_rasmussen_reports_party_weighting_targets_38_7_democrat_33_6_republican&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rasmussen article&lt;/a&gt; that breaks down the sample. In past years a 38 to 33 dem to repub would be representative of the country, but this year, PUMAs (democrats) are effectively voting for McCain. This means that Rasmussen should be sampling more republicans than he is. Obama is actually worse off than Rasmussen&#039;s polls show.

Here is what I just wrote to the Rasmussen contact email address:

&quot;Dear Sirs,

Your daily election poll is faulty because you are not taking into account the PUMAs. You should be polling more republicans, because for this election cycle, PUMAs are voting the McCain/Palin ticket.

Regards,
Godzilla (real name goes here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PUMA ACTION ALERT suggestion. I think we should prowl the hell out of the polling companies, Zogby, Rasmussen, Gallup, all of them. Their sampling data does not account for PUMAs. McCain is actually more ahead than the polls show. For example, look at this <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_rasmussen_reports_party_weighting_targets_38_7_democrat_33_6_republican" rel="nofollow">Rasmussen article</a> that breaks down the sample. In past years a 38 to 33 dem to repub would be representative of the country, but this year, PUMAs (democrats) are effectively voting for McCain. This means that Rasmussen should be sampling more republicans than he is. Obama is actually worse off than Rasmussen&#8217;s polls show.</p>
<p>Here is what I just wrote to the Rasmussen contact email address:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Sirs,</p>
<p>Your daily election poll is faulty because you are not taking into account the PUMAs. You should be polling more republicans, because for this election cycle, PUMAs are voting the McCain/Palin ticket.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Godzilla (real name goes here)</p>
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		<title>By: LotusBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LotusBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1079 Alice1943 - there is a new post upstairs and some are already out there.

Let me try to define it - Democrats or the party is supposedly representative of common people, farmers, unions, woman, choice, ethinicity, diversity, secular vision. In sharing wealth top down and preserving jobs, lives, environment, flora and fauna.

Republicans are by contract supposed to be representative of wealthy, oil drilling, faith based, men at the helm, corporate mongers, us versus them guys that is not in touch with common folks or their needs, blood suckers that live like leech off poor folks, xenophobic, gun totting, animal killing, environment destroying, kind of guys.

This is not my definition but what I have gathered in my almost decade of living in the US coming in from South Asia. When I say what I have gathered, I mean this is what I get from Hollywood, CNN, MSNBC, TIME, Newsweek, NYT, SF chronicles, Chicago tribune to name a few. 
I have hardly seen anybody - americans on the road reflect the above definition.

So there you have it.

No what do I think - Totally the opposite. Dems are now hijacked by ultra left just as people said the repubs became neo-cons. Repubs are the new dems and dems are the new sorry ODEMS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1079 Alice1943 &#8211; there is a new post upstairs and some are already out there.</p>
<p>Let me try to define it &#8211; Democrats or the party is supposedly representative of common people, farmers, unions, woman, choice, ethinicity, diversity, secular vision. In sharing wealth top down and preserving jobs, lives, environment, flora and fauna.</p>
<p>Republicans are by contract supposed to be representative of wealthy, oil drilling, faith based, men at the helm, corporate mongers, us versus them guys that is not in touch with common folks or their needs, blood suckers that live like leech off poor folks, xenophobic, gun totting, animal killing, environment destroying, kind of guys.</p>
<p>This is not my definition but what I have gathered in my almost decade of living in the US coming in from South Asia. When I say what I have gathered, I mean this is what I get from Hollywood, CNN, MSNBC, TIME, Newsweek, NYT, SF chronicles, Chicago tribune to name a few.<br />
I have hardly seen anybody &#8211; americans on the road reflect the above definition.</p>
<p>So there you have it.</p>
<p>No what do I think &#8211; Totally the opposite. Dems are now hijacked by ultra left just as people said the repubs became neo-cons. Repubs are the new dems and dems are the new sorry ODEMS</p>
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		<title>By: Alice1943</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice1943</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting the idea nobody here is too happy about being a democrat. Two different days I&#039;ve asked if anyone could define just what  democrat is.  Only one I reall got was: A democrat is not a republican. LMBO
Ok, so define either one. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting the idea nobody here is too happy about being a democrat. Two different days I&#8217;ve asked if anyone could define just what  democrat is.  Only one I reall got was: A democrat is not a republican. LMBO<br />
Ok, so define either one. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: KarenWI</title>
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		<dc:creator>KarenWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, no sign.  I thought I had seen signs like that at other McCain rallies... didn&#039;t know that it was a &quot;no no&quot;.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, no sign.  I thought I had seen signs like that at other McCain rallies&#8230; didn&#8217;t know that it was a &#8220;no no&#8221;.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: NewOrleansPuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewOrleansPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1069KarenWi: For the record, PumaPac does not formally support McCain or any other candidate. PumaPac is against Obama....Technically, why don&#039;t you write your user name and put Puma after it if you want to make a sign....re McCain...This distinction is held firmly here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1069KarenWi: For the record, PumaPac does not formally support McCain or any other candidate. PumaPac is against Obama&#8230;.Technically, why don&#8217;t you write your user name and put Puma after it if you want to make a sign&#8230;.re McCain&#8230;This distinction is held firmly here!</p>
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