UPDATE 9/16/08 AT 10:05am, eastern: BARACK OBAMA CALLING OUT THE SWIFT BOATS. ACCORDING TO JOSH MARSHALL AND NAMED PARTICIPANTS IN AN “URGENT” CONFERENCE CALL AMONG BIG DONC DONORS AND OPERATIVES LATE LAST WEEK, GROUPS ABLE TO PRODUCE “DRASTIC” ATTACK ADS AGAINST MCCAIN/PALIN HAD “GOTTEN THE MESSAGE FROM OBAMA THAT HE DOESN’T WANT SUCH ACTIVITY – [BUT] NOW RECOGNIZE THAT TEAM OBAMA IS PRIVATELY HOPING FOR SUCH EFFORTS TO GEAR UP IN EARNEST.” SO MUCH FOR THE HIGH ROAD, HUH? (NOT THAT MR. PERIODICALLY SWEETIE WAS EVER ON THE HIGH ROAD, BUT, HEY PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING, AS OBAMA NOW LEARNS TO HIS EVERLASTING SHAME) (h/t to greenfun in comments.)
Today’s polls show a tie in Virginia, and McCain leading Obama in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and Colorado. Here’s the thing though: Obama’s lead in New Jersey is down to THREE POINTS. New freaking Jersey?? Wow. Remember back on June 5th (BEFORE it was too late; BEFORE Hillary was forced to suspend) when we said that Obama was headed for a LANDSLIDE 50-STATE LOSS? Here’s what we said then:
We must be united against the DNC’s usurpation of the will of Democratic voters. If they appoint Obama as the Democratic nominee, he will lose in a 50-state landslide. Don’t listen to the pundits or the polls. Listen to your own mind, your own common sense, and your own determination to turn this thing around.
All Pumas, please send an email to Howard Dean, chair of the Democratic National Committee right now @ howarddean@dnc.org
Tell him that we are Democrats who will not vote for Barack Obama for president. We will not support a “Unity Ticket” with Hillary Clinton as the vice-president. We will not donate one thin dime to the DNC or any of its affiliate organizations until they wake up, listen to the voices of the voters in ALL 50 states, and start distancing themselves from this disastrous nominee.
Please copy and paste this letter into the body of your email and write “Puma democrat” after your signature so he knows who we are. By August he’ll be ruing the day he ever tried to dismiss our votes and our voices.
Seems like a lifetime ago, doesn’t it? We sure have been consistent. Hey Obama and the DONC! Don’t blame Sarah Palin. We’ve been warning you for months exactly what we intended to do if you continued on your path to destruction. And we WILL do it. Barack Obama will lose on November 4th because he attempted to destroy the strongest candidate our Party has seen in a generation (yes, she IS a stronger candidate than Bill circa 1992) and offended every decent Democrat in the United States with his divisiveness and disdain for the VOTERS.
New Jersey going red?? Sing it, Bruce!
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red is my favorite color
OOOOOOOoooooooooo I love red!
FL will be red also…I hope!
#3?
good morning~~
good morning~~
oopssie!“
6 is not bad
good morning! I like red too!!!! (very big evil grin)
Can’t beleive I’m chanting red red red, instead of blue blue blue. rotlmbo
The local Obama campaign called yesterday. I’d just gotten home from work (after having a bad day) and when the guy said he was calling from the Obama headquarters, I cut him off and said in a rather nasty voice “Don’t EVEN bother!” To which he hurriedly replied OK and quickly hung up. I don’t think he wanted to go further than that…
do you think we are doing it? I am sendding emails and talking alot to everyone I can! and I signed up to work polls here and work for Mccain/Palin!
good morning all from sunning Arizona
ditto bluegrass
Poll shows Obama’s lead in NY at 5 points
By The Associated Press – 23 hours ago
THE POLL: The Siena Research Institute, presidential race in New York of likely voters.
THE NUMBERS: Barack Obama 46 percent, John McCain 41 percent.
OF INTEREST: The lead is down from 18 points in June, when Obama led 51-33 percent over McCain in a Siena poll. New York, home of Obama’s main primary opponent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, is solidly Democratic, with 5.5 million registered Democrats and 2.9 million registered Republicans. The state has 31 electoral votes.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jr11lu2a_ODsnVHDuv080L-RtvsAD9376UDG0
so far nobody on my email list has asked to be skipped!
Hi sunning Arizona, I like how changed it to a verb. the sun in Arizona sure does act like a verb.
The youtube link works now.
ooohhh I just LOVE Bruce Springsteen. you’ll be dancing in your chair:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQ1pGrYr-Q&feature=related
sunshinelvr, please see kat in your hat #13.
yes, yes, and yes — we ARE doing it. Let’s repeat:
“OF INTEREST: The lead is down from 18 points in June, when Obama led 51-33 percent over McCain in a Siena poll. New York, home of Obama’s main primary opponent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, is solidly Democratic, with 5.5 million registered Democrats and 2.9 million registered Republicans. The state has 31 electoral votes.”
Almost twice as many Democrats in New York than Republicans. And those are real, true-blue Puma Democrats. They are BASE of the Dem Party– not youngsters or limousine liberals who dabble in politics like they dabble at downhill skiing and vegetarianism. They are US.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jr11lu2a_ODsnVHDuv080L-RtvsAD9376UDG0
Obama camp is so stupid, how they keep harping about McCain and emails.
Meanwhile, supposedly Bill and Hillary Clinton don’t use the internet.
Bill Clinton wrote his tome of an autobiography “My Life” BY HAND…he wrote it out on paper! It took many notebooks, but he did it.
So, the O camp may or may not know it, but they are also insulting the Clinton’s and about 20% of voters who do not use the internet.
(stupid Odohs)
rabblerouser — ouch!
Hope today is better.
Good Morning PUMA
My best friend is living in New Jersey but work in NY, she’s a big Hillary supporter voting for McCain/Palin ticket. Her daughter too is voting for McCain/Palin – the young woman was a former koolaid drinker.
Good morning!
The Oprah sponsors listing is up to date as of three minutes ago, and posted at the AC. Trish filled in teh bulk of missing contacts!
Okay, off to “wack” (c. kat in your hat).
Just a little adjustment to a famous song…
Don’t it make Obama’s brown eyes
Don’t it make Obama’s brown eyes
Don’t it make Obama’s brown eyes……blue
Don’t Obama make the blue states
Don’t Obama make the blue states
Don’t Obama make the blue states……………… red!
I’m seeing red, flood the country!!!!
I’m clinging to my Bible and praying it continues all the way til November 4th. AMEN!!!
I say….God Bless America!!!!!
my daughter in law was a rabid supporter of oblahblah..but I just kept talking..and she finally started looking on her own and she says she cannpt believe how mislead she was! she said his speeches always sound so good but he never said anything! And she has been talking to HER mom and sister, too! they are all taking a second look!
Of course, we are having an impact. Murphy this is all thanks to you. I know everyone here was as devastated as I was when Hillary stepped out of the race. I cried. Then I got mad. Then I decided to get even. I am tired of being treated like as a woman that I am stupid and should not open my mouth. Well, the good Lord didn’t make me that way, he gave me a voice, a mouth to use it with, and the stubborness to carry a plan out. That’s why I am a PUMA!!!
Yeah, it’s looking ugly for BO all right.
Maybe we should fundraise for an AD for after the election, that says …..way to go—Nancy, Howie,Donna,Richardson,Ted,Kerry, moveon.org,MSNBC.
Poll Results Spread
Pennsylvania FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 47, McCain 47 Tie
Ohio FOX News/Rasmussen McCain 48, Obama 45 McCain +3
Florida FOX News/Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 44 McCain +5
Virginia FOX News/Rasmussen McCain 48, Obama 48 Tie
Colorado FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 46, McCain 48 McCain +2
National Rasmussen Tracking McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1
New Jersey Quinnipiac Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3
Monday, September 15
Race Poll Results Spread
National Gallup Tracking McCain 47, Obama 45 McCain +2
Letter sent and now off to a doctor appointment in California. Have a nice day all!
my main theme is “country over party” who do you trust more? who can get the job done? who loves America? who?? we do, that’s who!!!
#11 mkp651- sunning in Az-
I am a NJ transplant living in Az, have struggled for years being blue in this red state. Who would have ever thought I would be tickled pink (which is really a light shade of red, right?) to see NJ sway!!
mpk- e-mail me off line, I am looking for some local PUMAs I am suefreeman1@cox.net
I am off to the doctor’s , too..got a little thing going on here..will bbl…tc have a great day all!
NObama NEVER experience against a strong Republican candidate in Chicago. Alan Keyes was the opponent of NObama in Chicago for US Senate. Alan Keyes was forced to ran in Chicago (he was from Maryland) because Nobama’s opponent was involved in messy divorce and investigation. He won the election easily. We know the story of Alice Palmer.
His theme now is changing; from “change we can believe in” to “believers for Obama,” sounds very cultish to me, reminds me of David Koresh, the whacko from Waco, Texas. Even here in my state (Washington) NObama is losing steam, its now turning light blue like New Jersey. My radical state is usually very solid blue, not this year.
all Mass voters go to vote Kerry out.!! Will make a big difference. When is Pelosi’s??
Hey Murphy, if you’ve sent me e-mail in the last three days, I haven’t gotten it. My annabelle account is down until the power is back up. We’re on day three of regional power loss here.
If you need to reach me, I can still access my gmail account a couple of times a day. peacocksandlilies AT GEEmail DOT com. Just an FYI.
lol Dances…
Hay need to get to work. See ya all later.
I have been adding pages to the site and I am still working very hard on adding more. I would love for people to go and take a peek.
Of course if you have anything you’d like to add or any input I would appreciate any thing.
Please however, be mindful that I am not a professional and that I am doing this on my own time with help from other Pumas sending me links to research. So please try and be constructive rather than mean or destructive.
http://puma-facts.com
I know 12 solid Dems never voted Repub are this year and thats just my family. Upstate is going red. City is going there too I believe .
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/top_democrats_privately_urging.php
“The call was organized to let donors know that things are pretty serious and that if something is going to happen, it needs to happen fast,” Dem operative Mike Lux, president of the Dem firm Progressive Strategies and one of the call’s organizers, tells me.
“The message was that it’s pretty damn urgent,” continued Lux, who played a key role in raising money for outside groups in 2004. “We said we think that dramatic things need to happen.”
Let’s see….. Biden tells a crippled man to stand.
Obama expects McCain, an injured vet….. to type on a keyboard.
I guess these two men have NO understanding or compassion to the disabled Americans.
An oversight of a crippled man in a wheel chair.
An oversight of a disabled veteran, McCain, unable to use his fingers to type just proves how out of touch these two men really are.
Carrie
Please add this too
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=99&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session
The bill for sex education in Illinois was from K6 to 12. But it was changed from K to 12, Nobama voted for it. McCain did not lie in his campaign ad, it was a FACT, NObama LIE again!
And just a few weeks ago the obamabots were typing LOSERS all over teh interwebs in ALL CAPS shouting.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up; that’s how you might get treated on your way down.
Fellow PUMAs.
We’ve got The One on the run!
His campaign handlers don’t trust him to speak at all anymore without his precious teleprompter:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/15/obamas-teleprompter-hits-the-trail/
Looks soooooooooooooo natural when set up in the middle of a rodeo ring!!
Can you say “rope and ride”, boys and girls?!?
Weeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha!
The Neocons’ Palin Project
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Will the neocons who tutored George W. Bush in the ideology he pursued to the ruin of his presidency do the same for Sarah Palin?
Should they succeed, they will destroy her. Yet, they are moving even now to capture this princess of the right and hope of the party.
In St. Paul, Palin was told to cancel a meeting with Phyllis Schlafly and pro-life conservatives. McCain’s operatives said Palin had to rest for her Wednesday convention speech.
Yet, on Tuesday, Palin was behind closed doors with Joe Lieberman and officials of the Israeli lobby AIPAC. There, according to The Washington Post, Palin took and passed her oral exams.
“Palin assured the group of her strong support for Israel, of her desire to see the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and of her opposition to Iran’s aspirations to become a
nuclear power, according to sources familiar with the meeting.”
AIPAC’s mission, like that of Likud, is to goad America into launching air and missile strikes on any and all Iranian nuclear facilities.
AIPAC went away happy. Purred spokesman Josh Block, “We were pleased that Gov. Palin expressed her deep personal commitment to the safety and well-being of Israel.”
Heading home to Alaska to prepare for her interview with Charlie Gibson, Palin was escorted by Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s foreign policy guru and, until March, a hired agent of the Tbilisi regime.
Scheunemann’s lobbying assignment: Bring Georgia into NATO, so U.S. troops, like 19-year-old Track Palin, will be required to fight Russia to defend a Saakashvili regime that has paid Randy and his partner $730,000.
Reportedly, a phone conversation was held between Saakashvili and Palin, in which Palin committed herself to the territorial integrity of Georgia, though South Ossetia and Abkhazia have declared independence and been recognized by Moscow, which now has troops in both.
Also on Palin’s plane was Steve Biegun, formerly of Bush’s National Security Council, and Scheunemann’s choice to tutor her. Of Biegun, Steven Clemens of the New American Foundation says, “He will turn
her into an advocate of Cheneyism and Cheney’s view of national security issues.”
During her interview with Gibson, Palin often took a neocon line. Three times she said that, should Israel decide to attack Iran, the United States should not “second guess” Israel’s decision or interfere.
This contradicts U.S. policy. Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs, has warned Israel not to attack Iran, as the United States does not want a “third front.” And the Pentagon is withholding crucial weapons the Israelis want and need to carry out any such attack.
Palin also volunteered that the Russian invasion was “unprovoked,” though Georgia attacked South Ossetia first. She followed up by saying that Georgia and Ukraine should be brought into NATO.
Would that mean America would have to go to war with Russia on behalf of Georgia in any new conflict, asked Gibson.
“Perhaps so,” said Palin.
Scheunemann should get a fat severance check from Saakashvili for that one.
One ex-White House aide at American Enterprise Institute, asked by Tim Shipman of the Daily Telegraph if AEI sees Palin as a “project,” replied: “Your word, not mine. … But I wouldn’t disagree with the sentiment. … She’s bright, and she’s a blank page. She’s going places, and it’s worth going there with her.”
In fairness to Palin, on issues like NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia, her answers reflect the views of the man who chose her. She has no option at present but to follow the line laid down by Scheunemann.
But make no mistake. Sarah Palin is no neocon. She did not come by her beliefs by studying Leo Strauss. She is a traditionalist whose values are those of family, faith, community and country, not some utopian ideology.
Wasilla, Alaska, is not a natural habitat of neoconservatives.
And her unrehearsed answers to Gibson’s questions reveal her natural conservatism. Asked if she agrees with the Bush Doctrine, Palin asked for clarification. “In what respect, Charlie?”
Gibson: “Do we have the right of an anticipatory self-defense?”
Yes, said Palin, “if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against (the) American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.”
Exactly. The intelligence must be legit and the threat “imminent.”
Interviewed by Alaska Business Monthly in March 2007 on the surge, Palin said, “I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place.”
That is not the language of empire or “benevolent global hegemony.”
Palin may disappoint many conservatives in the next seven weeks by having to parrot the McCain-neocon line on NATO expansion, NAFTA and a “path to citizenship” for illegal aliens. But the battle for
Sarah’s soul is not over.
For, again, the lady is no neocon. Nor is the husband Todd, First Dude of Alaska and former member of the “Alaska First” Independence Party.
Can you imagine a little 5 years old hugging his playmate and can be accuse of touching his playmate the wrong way. Where are we going to draw the line? It would be horrible a little child of being accuse doing something inappropriately. Children are very affectionate especially towards their playmates of the same age.
Hillary trounced BO in NJ. The only places he won were Newark and some fancy pants exurbs where Big Pharma resides. There are plenty of blue-collar Hillary voters in North Jersey that McCain/Palin can grab. At the very least, it would cause Nobama to spend tons of money on expensive TV ads in NYC.
http://www.politickernj.com/editor/23521/quinnipiac-poll-obama-has-razor-thin-lead-nj-mccain-trails-just-3-points#comment
Thanks Asian! I was just looking for a link to that and trying to decide if I need to make a section just for him being an idiot.
As long as PUMAS and friends keeping chipping away at that shiny veneer thus exposing to everyone the nothingness underneath the suit, we will be rejoicing on November 5th perhaps about 3:00AM.
I TOLD YOU SO
Do we need to do a follow-up Prowl on the Logan Act?
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
As Murphy so well put it – Rasmussen today shows that McCain has a one point lead nationally over Obam -
and Colorado McCain – 48-46 – Florida 49-44 for McCain
Ohio is 48-45 for Mc – Penna and Va both a tie -
Letters to the editors of these states necessary -
I am starting to dedicate energy where it is known that it will be a close race as the above to include Indiana and Michigan and I guess even New Jersey -
Obam from polls of all polls shows a significant lead in Delaware – 3 Electorial Vote – Vermont – 3 Electorial Votes – Maine – 4 Electorial Votes – Hawaii – 4 Electorial Votes – Rhode Island – 4 Electorial Votes – but the biggies are Illinois 21 Votes – Massachusetts 12 Votes, California 55 Votes – New York 31 Votes – Maryland 10 Vote -
As in the caucus in the primaries – if we direct our attention to those States with the highest amount of electorial votes – this could be pulled away from Obam – of the 5 States today – at least the men got it right in their polls – they do not want Obam – we need to work on the women in Penna who are supporting Obam.
Don’t forget New frigging York – only 5 points lead!
Hillary was asked her opinion about Obamas VP mistake
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/what-does-hillary-think-of-obama-vp-pick-mess/
#34 Caracal Carrie
I think you have done a very impressive job with the site. Thank you for this excellent resource.
RED IS MY NEW FAVORITE COLOR!
ONLY UNTIL 2012!
“Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not facing any kind of financial crisis”.
Now, who on Earth said that back in 2003?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
If anyone has any good links on the delay of troops issue can you please post them real fast or send them to me? Im so sorry if they have already been posted, I am trying to juggle a bunch of stuff and want to get them together. Thanks and sorry.
Thank you Just.words! Your support means so much!
#46 Headclunker Yes, I do think we need to follow up on the Logan Act. Murphy needs to initiate a prowl.
Carrie
Here’s the link for NObama delay troops withdrawal in Iraq
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?page=0
I think this may be right.
The Sarah Palin Phenomenon Is Doomed
This is how the world works in the age of 24/7 news cycles. Whether the subject is Britney Spears, Michael Jordan or Sarah Palin, we inevitably raise stars to mythic levels, out of all reasonable proportions. Then we knock them down. (Look out, Michael Phelps. Your time is coming, too.)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/15/business/marketwatch/main4448337.shtml
What a JOKE !
This morning on TODAY McCain was on talking with them about the economy crisis…but Obama didn’t have time to show up so he sent his angry attack-dog Biden to go against McCain…LOL…LOL….well maybe the O-boi was too tired and had to sleep in or too stupid and scared to be up against McCain……..I think both are the case.
Who’s running against whom?…It seems that it’s McCain vs Biden and Palin vs Obama………So who is the Dem Presidential candidate anyway?…LOL
Thanks to you again Asian!
You’re welcome Carrie
http://countusout.wordpress.com/ Info regarding prowl re: THE LOGAN ACT
Murphy if your still around you have mail!
#34 Caracal Carrie
My compliments on the puma facts web site. IT CAME OUT GREAT! Thank you for all your hard work. This will turn out to be a GREAT source of info for us to refer to when trying to deprogram obamabots!
Thank you….
((((mimi))))) Thank you so much!
Morning PUMAS!! Is that victory that I am smelling so strong in Nov!?!?!
Was on Real Clear Politics and read this, Here are a few excerpts that I thought would bring a smile to PUMAS!
Tucker’s a card, but you can’t argue that a McCain win, for liberals, will be the political equivalent of Black Friday back in 1929.
Tom Bevan, co-founder of Real Clear Politics, was succinct: “Two words: Hari Kari. The base of the [Democratic] party is so vested in its nominee…that to lose in November would be one of the most demoralizing in the modern era.”
Here is the full article:
http://www.splicetoday.com/politics-and-media/the-audacity-of-defeat
PUMAS towards the finish line…
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
NObama is a LYING SACK OF SHIT! This man is true epitome what lying politician is!
Taxpayers bailed out Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to the tune of $100 billion. Who voted for it? DEMOCRATS! Republicans were against it. Why punish the taxpayers for investors cooking up their book? The Democratic Party is TRUE ELITIST. They give people crumbs, but the big bulk goes to big corporations worth Billions and billions of dollars!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akvmVsNc5gHk&refer=worldwide
#56 vadaryl
I think this may be right.The Sarah Palin Phenomenon Is Doomed
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Hopefully there is not enough time for this to happen with the election being so close. I think the MSM will keep her going longer due to BO being such a ’sensation’ for so long, kinda riding his media coat tails. Its about the $$. The repubs are making her ‘hard to get’ to with the media. So it should keep the focus on her. It always surprized me how long Bo was in the limelight.
UPDATE 9/16/08 AT 10:05am, eastern: BARACK OBAMA CALLING OUT THE SWIFT BOATS. ACCORDING TO JOSH MARSHALL AND NAMED PARTICIPANTS IN AN “URGENT” CONFERENCE CALL AMONG BIG DONC DONORS AND OPERATIVES LATE LAST WEEK, GROUPS ABLE TO PRODUCE “DRASTIC” ATTACK ADS AGAINST MCCAIN/PALIN HAD “GOTTEN THE MESSAGE FROM OBAMA THAT HE DOESN’T WANT SUCH ACTIVITY – [BUT] NOW RECOGNIZE THAT TEAM OBAMA IS PRIVATELY HOPING FOR SUCH EFFORTS TO GEAR UP IN EARNEST.” SO MUCH FOR THE HIGH ROAD, HUH? (NOT THAT MR. PERIODICALLY SWEETIE WAS EVER ON THE HIGH ROAD, BUT, HEY PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING, AS OBAMA NOW LEARNS TO HIS EVERLASTING SHAME) (h/t to greenfun in comments.)
#64 NoMoreInFL on 09.16.08 at 10:24 am
NObama has a problem not just with conservative and moderate democrats, he also has a problem with extreme leftwingnuts; when he VOTED FOR FISA which he promised he would vote against, they withdraw their support from him. You would see a lot of extreme leftwingers voting for Nader this election.
NObama do not have the support of the base of the democratic party which is US, he relies on AA and independent voters, the problem with independent voters they prefer McCain over him, great example of that was New Hampshire last primary.
link. usually i dont link to Teh Boiz, but Josh plays this one straight as a news report, so hey what the heck.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/top_democrats_privately_urging.php
Caracal Carrie on 09.16.08 at 10:05 am Thanks Asian! I was just looking for a link to that and trying to decide if I need to make a section just for him being an idiot.
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A section? When a website includes anything Obama, the entire website becomes the idiot section.
PS I like the layout and information in your website.
Asian4Hillary #68. exactly right. That’s why I call us the ones no one was expecting.
Obama and the DONC’s strategy was that once he had been selected as the nominee he would be FORCED to tack right in order to pick up Independents and disaffected Republicans. In so doing he would necessarily lose a small but still significant number of far-left voters. What was SUPPOSED to happen was all of us so-called “Hillary supporters” would rush back in at Obama’s hour of need to staunch the flow of the left-wing exodus. They expected us to fall in line; to be cowered by the Roe bat; and to fill in the left-wing gaps he would need to make to appeal to centrist voters in Swing States.
oops. They NEVER expected us to do what we are doing.
Remember one of our favorite Ghandi quotes from the early days:
“First they ignore you; then they ridicule you; then they attack you; then you win.” ?
They ignored us in June; Ridiculed us in July; Attacked us in August. and
WE WIN IN SEPTEMBER.
#18 murphy on 09.16.08 at 9:46 am rabblerouser — ouch!
Hope today is better.
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So far so good, but it’s only 10:48am…it cheered me to see so many states turning RED…listening to the news -ABC, CBS, NBC you get quite a different picture…
Murphy
In my state, the shift is truly amazing; in the middle of primary election all you can hear people talk about how great is NObama. After the primary there was dead silence, people doesn’t want to talk about him anymore. It was his vote for FISA, an ultimate BETRAYAL for those that supported him during primary in this state. When I had my small party, the biggest axe they have against NObama was FISA. People in Washington State are very particular about their right to privacy like people in Alaska. Before Palin come into the picture change have taken place, now its getting deeper with Palin as VP pick of McCain. There’s probability McCain will carry Washington State in general election, Alaska and Washington are sister state.
Morning all,
#34 Caracal Carrie Site looks great I love and wiil be spreading it around.
I spent last night and this morning debating the obots. I can tell anyone here that they are out in as a force I haven’t seen since before the odnc convention
They are really really sweating now.
Way to go PUMAS !!!
I’m one of those Democrats that don’t pay much attention to polls. I saw polls putting Obama ahead in North Carolina by three points. I live there and know better. In my District there are only about three people saying they will vote for Obama. This goes back three or four months, yet the polls kept showing Obama ahead. I think McCain is ahead in all states (not showing that much in polls). I have friends and relatives in many states and the majority is solid behind McCain, that was before he chose Palin as VP. People I talk to love Palin mostly because she is a Washington outsider, intelligent, not especially controlled by any party, experienced in what counts. I think people all over the country are starting to wake up to what Obama is, and the influence Pelosi will have on him if he is elected. At least, that’s what people are saying to me. They seem to fear Pelosi as much as they do Obama. The media is still desperately trying to spin Obama but having a harder and harder time doing it.
56 vadaryl
You know in any other situation I would agree. However, we are dealing with Carpathia here. Every time he makes a sexist remark it will strengthen PAlin and put her backm in the spotlight.
Considering he and his cronies rely on sexism as a weapon, we will see the Palin factor all the way through the general. Imho anyway.
#47bobram and MURPHY: I think your idea is excellent..very pragmatic..How do we do that?
I thought some of y’all might be interested in this: Why I Agree with Sarah Palin on Abstinence Education
#37 you bring up a point I was thinking of. I wish there could be ads out showing Biden saying that to the handicapped vet; and then a clip of the ad against McCain with the newpaper clipping of why he can’t type. Then end with something like “Obama-Biden: not respectful of those who were handicapped defending our country. Do you really want them as commander in chief?” By the way, did any of you see Hannity on tv last night with the lady who survived a botched abortion? Wow. I wish I could’ve seen that whole ad she’s in, find out who put out that ad, and where it’s being shown. That is one POWERFUL idea. I may be wrong here, but I think even those who are prochoice would be aghast at the idea of letting a baby who is out of the womb, and survived the abortion, should just suffer and die alone of neglect.
The difference between McCain and NObama is this:
NObama = A warm soothing cup of chocolate you sip as you sit dreaming in front of a fire on a cold winters day.
McCain = That cup of coffee you drink in the morning to wake you up and face your day.
#50 mimi1020 on 09.16.08 at 10:10 am
RED IS MY NEW FAVORITE COLOR!
ONLY UNTIL 2012!
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And in 2012, it will be Blue – and ORANGE…
Headclunker on 09.16.08 at 10:09 am I TOLD YOU SO
Do we need to do a follow-up Prowl on the Logan Act?
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I agree I think we should strike while this subject is still HOT!!
#81 Rabblerouser
RIGHT ON!
Just want you all to know I’m working hard to flip NJ Red. I wanna see Obama get crushed. When first I saw him four years ago, I thought smooth talker… no substance.
I’m an independent, but I admire the way PUMAs are working hard for honesty in politics. Most of you may be Democrats, but I think you are also having a big impact on the Republicans. I look to a future of better, more capable, more honest politicians on both sides. Politicians that actually listen to those that they serve. PUMAs are helping make that possible.
Thank you.
#80Asian4Hillary: Nobama is poison no matter what form he is taken in!
McCain/Palin are not only that cup of coffee but that cup of coffee with a hit of chicory to add a litte bite!
I agree about polls…still waiting for my call as an Super Voter Independent! They do not want FL to become too red too soon…makes lying baby cry!!
#85 NewOrleansPums
mmmmm – french market coffee….. yummy
The CBS article about the waning of Sarah Palin’s star said one thing I totally disagree with:
“Gibson, as dignified a newsperson as America has now, treated Palin fairly and didn’t resort to hectoring her with “gotcha” questions, either.”
That’s bull, because in most every other interview I’ve seen, the interviewer always explains what the Bush doctrine is (for example) so that the viewers know what they are talking about. Gibson purosefully didn’t do that in order to make Palin look like she didn’t know what he was talking about.
Attention Indiana Puma’s : I received this email from Jill Long- she is an avid Hillary supporter running for Governor of Indiana…she is having a debate tonight that you can watch live here is the email
Dear PumaDem,
It’s a big day for the campaign.
Tonight is the first gubernatorial debate of the campaign season in Merrillville, Indiana. Jill will face Governor Mitch Daniels and Libertarian challenger Andrew Horning at the Star Plaza Theatre at 7:00 p.m. CST.
Even if you can’t make it to Merrillville, you can catch all of the action live on the following television stations:
WFYI-TV, Channel 20, Indianapolis
WJTS-TV, Channel 27, Jasper
WFWA-TV, Channel 39, Fort Wayne
WTIU-TV, Channel 30, Bloomington
WIPB-TV, Channel 49, Muncie
WNIN-TV, Channel 9, Evansville
WRTV-TV, Cable Channel, Indianapolis
WTHR-TV, Cable Channel, Indianapolis
Several media outlets will also be streaming the broadcast live over the Internet:
Indianapolis Star (www.indystar.com)
Times of Northwest Indiana (www.nwi.com)
WEHT-TV (http://www.abc25.com/)
WANE-TV (http://www.wane.com/)
WRTV-TV (http://www.theindychannel.com/index.html)
WXIN-TV (http://www.fox59.com/pages/main)
WTHI-TV (http://www.wthitv.com/)
WLFI-TV (http://www.wlfi.com/)
I hope you have an opportunity to tune in or log on to hear Jill’s message of change for Indiana — change that will re-start our economy, grow good paying jobs, and make taxes fair for all Hoosier families.
Sincerely,
Travis Lowe
Campaign Manager
Hoosiers for Jill
PS: Also be sure to check out our live blog of the debate at http://www.hoosiersforjill.com/blog.
Did anybody see Fox last night With the Author of STEALING ELECTIONS,John Fund?
He said that Obama not only supports ACORN,he was their CHIEF TRAINER for conferences and there Lawer for 3 years.
No wonder there corrupt.
Hey Murphy- why am I in Moderation…..I have been a good Puma
Great article comparing the reaction of crowds to Obama to the reaction to Hitler. Must read.
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/09/16/idols_of_crowds
#84SilenceDogwood: Iagree with you and add that this election cycle gives us the opportunity and the necessity to elect someone who will begin a return to some kind of balance in the Republican party, and certainly to stop and to finally end the apex of radical socialism embodied in Obimbo and the usupers of MY PARTY! Donna GotDeals will need to write another cookbook, other than “How to Poison a Country” by HighStench Press!
#85 NewOrleansPuma on 09.16.08 at 10:49 am #80Asian4Hillary: Nobama is poison no matter what form he is taken in!
McCain/Palin are not only that cup of coffee but that cup of coffee with a hit of chicory to add a litte bite!
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I love your coffee in Lousiana, my Aunt living in New Orleans sent me a can one time. It was fantastic! Although Starbucks originated from my state, I consider it overrated. I bought 2lbs of Starbucks coffee beans one time and send it to my brother in Ireland, he heard a lot about it. When he received the package, and try his first cup of starbucks, he called me right away. I’ve never heard the man cuss like crazy about coffee until he had starbucks……hahahaha!
hey prplevette, how’s the grandkids??
sry I’ll go check,
brb.
#56 VADARYL I’m a little concerned about that to. Have you seen my post #41 above? No one has commented on that but we should be concerned about it. I like Sarah just as she is, I don’t want Washington politics getting to her, she is a breath of fresh air and speaks her mind. I hope she doesn’t get so scripted that we lose who she really is.
Thanks Murphy, they are great! Still wearing their Puma buttons and shirts proudly! They even tell people WHY they are Puma’s
#79 You seem to stick out like a sore thumb…this is not an anti abortion site!
Well Murphy and Pumas sue me but I will not give this a pass. You can put me in moderation and address the #79 post. I was not feeling secure when “Karen” wanted our NUMBERS!
prplevette — all set. Comments with more than 5 links automatically go into moderation to prevent spam-robots.
sry!
Oh, I forgot to report on the “good news”, last night at work CNN was on (between 8 – 9 p.m.) with a panel of four men and are you ready for this…
They are going to have to start reporting on *61…the real *61! They said they are going to tell him that they will not be covering him like before; not give his “stops” the coverage that they have if *61 will not allow them to interview him without being scripted! They will not be accepting *61’s “talking points for their people when they interview or cover him.”
They said the American people need to know the “real” *61 and all about his past!
What a great day today is!! We need to keep up sending e-mails to the networks so they really do keep their words.
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
I know this has been posted before but, I’ll put it here for anyone that wants it.
Keep spreading it.
Charlie Gibson interviewed Obama and Palin. Below are the questions. Who do you think is being vetted and who is the media hiding and treating with kid gloves?
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to %u201Cwin%u201D?
How does your family feel about your %u201Cwinning%u201D breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor%u2019s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you%u2019re seeking?
Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren%u2019t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
The more we keep Sarah in the spotlight the less “celebrity’ 61 has. Take that away and the people will see the empty suit.
#93Asian4Hillary: So glad you do! Do you remember the brand she sent? Probably French Market, CDM, or Luzianne..Does your aunt still live here?
Do you know how chicory in coffee got to be a tradition here?
After the War Between the States, coffee like so much else was unavailable, so people started drying things like chicory, even sweet potatoes to make mixes of faux coffee to drink…When coffee became available long after, a shot of chicory was added because it does in fact add a bite and zap up the coffee flavor! And people had come to like the zap.
Love that coffee and chicory!
VIOLATION OF LOGAN ACT
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmRmMDAwNDc1ZTMxMDAzNGJlYjA5NWY1MzRlMGJmM2M=
Hi everybody,
I’m back at work after not feeling well yesterday, I hope all PUMA’s looking for jobs find the job of their dreams this month or next. Remember Sept & Oct are good job-searching & job-finding months so I have my fingers crossed for all PUMA’s out there going to job interviews.
And yes our economy is one thing Hillary could have fixed up for sure. Is Hillary on Good Morning America right now? Please post about her interview so I can check back later.
Murphy, right-on on the Ghandi quote.
Another great day to be a PUMA!
100 NoMoreInFL
Wow. Do you remember who was on the panel?
p.s. Bruce Springsteen is another Judas as far as I’m concerned!
Goodmorning #234 ladyhawkke,
This is in response to what you posted downstairs.
To keep things balanced, here’s some opposing viewpoints on the ANWR issue.
“Given the phenomenal national press coverage focused on the Gwich’in Indian ANWR position, the uninformed can only assume they live at ground zero on ANWR’s coastal plain and that their lives and cultures would be destroyed by any development there. To the contrary, the coastal plain is home only to the Inupiat Eskimos of the City of Kaktovik, population 260, who support development.
George Tagarook, Kaktovik’s vice-mayor since October 2001, eloquently explains how this issue has been misrepresented in his article entitled ANWR Reality Lies Far North of Gwich’in. In Kaktovik, a community survey (January 2000) showed 78% of residents supported ANWR development. For background, a history of the coastal plain is given in Alaskan Natives Support Development, and Tara MacLean Sweeney explains how the Inupiats’ views have been ignored in the ANWR debate.”
Read here for more …
http://www.anwr.org/features/players/inupiat.htm
http://www.anwr.org/features/kaktovik.htm
#234 ladyhawkke on 09.16.08 at 7:17 am
“also not to drill in ANWR. I am totally against drilling there. Most people don’t realize the daily destruction that takes place and to say it is a tiny area and won’t be impacted is not true. The area they are speaking about, as has been stated before by BlueJay, is home to the Gwich’in indians. The indians are fighting to save their land and the key migration paths of the caribou. I signed my letter and then hand-printed P.U.M.A. to he side. I posted my letter to him yesterday. Please take a look at the website to see for yourself.”
http://www.gwichinsteeringcommittee.org/history.html
Thank you Murphy! I am at work…just dropped in to see what was going on…lots of flood calls here…very busy…and still dealing with my own flooding basement…I will be back later to see if I need to be “prowling around”
murphy
and i would add to ghandi´s quotes … they have over done gender maltreatment,
My above prowl is done….I tweeked it to fit me…all in RED, lipstick RED and added my special Red State thoughts!
#103 NewOrleansPuma on 09.16.08 at 11:03 am #93Asian4Hillary: So glad you do! Do you remember the brand she sent? Probably French Market, CDM, or Luzianne..Does your aunt still live here?
Do you know how chicory in coffee got to be a tradition here?
After the War Between the States, coffee like so much else was unavailable, so people started drying things like chicory, even sweet potatoes to make mixes of faux coffee to drink…When coffee became available long after, a shot of chicory was added because it does in fact add a bite and zap up the coffee flavor! And people had come to like the zap.
Love that coffee and chicory!
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I can’t remember now the brand but the colour of coffee can was yellow. I saw it only once here, one grocery outlet, they’re selling a small can for $12.00
She moved out of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, she is now living in Metaire something.
#109prplvette85: So sorry to hear about your flooding basement..where are you located?
I hope this is not a repeat.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows John McCain attracting 48% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 47%. This is the third straight day Obama has been at 47% while McCain has dropped a point on each of the past two days. One week ago, the candidates were tied at 48%.
McCain Holds 48% to 45% Lead in Ohio
Colorado: McCain Pulls in Front in Toss-Up State
Premium Member Benefits
Florida: McCain Opens a Five-Point Lead
FOX/Rasmussen Swing State Polling – September 14, 2008
Majority of Voters Say Only McCain, Biden Prepared To Be President
Goodmorning Susie1945, in response to #294 post from downstairs, …
you and others may find this article from National Review a good read …
“What Was Feminism?
The media treatment of Sarah Palin reveals four ugly truths about the new feminism.
By Victor Davis Hanson
The media went hysterical over Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska and Republican nominee for vice president. She may have appeared to the public as an independent, capable professional woman, but to a particular elite she couldn’t possibly be a real feminist or even a serious candidate. And that raises questions about what is — and what is not — feminism.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MDA4OGY2NzVlZTA1YjQwY2YzMDEwMTAzODFkMjBkYTM=
Gallup says the race has stabilized with McCAin having a 2% edge.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110365/Gallup-Daily-Race-Stabilizes-McCain-Two.aspx
Good morning Pumas,
On my way out the door again this morning but just wanted to remind Massachusetts Pumas to get out and vote for Ed O’Reilly today in your Democratic Primary. Let’s send John Kerry home for good!
Good luck, Ed! I’ll be rooting for you.
HP Boston #98, Howdy Neighbor!
Why on earth would we sue you??
You are right. this is not an ant-abortion site. Puma PAC is 100% committed to reproductive freedom, just like Hillary Clinton.
Medical horror stories are ghastly. They inflame our emotions. Stories of unlikely survival inflame our empathy and admiration. How could they not??
However, we are rational, thinking citizens who know that the era of forced pregnancy is long gone. No woman, republican or democrat, is going back to those dark ages.
Sarah Palin can claim to be pro-life, anti-abortion whatever, all she wants. The cold, hard fact is that she has reaped ALL the benefits of reproductive choice and MADE THE CHOICE to give birth five times.
The anti-abortion argument has become incoherent. Every woman of child-bearing age in America today entered her child-bearing years AFTER THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL AND AFTER ROE v WADE. It is NONSENSE for any woman to claim to NOT BE pro-choice. It’s like an American MIT professor living in LEXINGTON MASSACHUSETTS (avg home price $800,000) (yes, I’m looking at you Noam Chomsky) claiming to be an anarchist. hogwash.
If you claim to be an anarchist and you’re not living in Darfur right now, I’m not buying it.
If you claim to be an anti-choice woman and you’re not living on the FLDS Farm right now or in Uganda, I’m not buying it.
antifish! how the heck are ya?
#112Asian4Hillary: That would be CDM (abbreviation for Cafe Du Monde, the place in the quarter by the river in front of Jackson Square where you can get beignets.)
Yes, Metairie, it is right next to the city limits of New Orleans: pronounced Met-tree. Sounds like they are selling CDM as a gourmet type coffee given the price, which it is , but not here, because almost everything here is considered gourmet somewhere else…
Where are you located?
Doing great, Murphy.
Gotta go grocery shopping. Check back in later.
NEW ORLEANS PUMA – thanks for noticing my post -what I will be working on this week is exactly what I posted earlier – those states where polls show McCain ahead by double digits or high single digits -hopefully will remain – Idaho, Wyoming, Ga, Ky, W. Va, Nebraska, S. Dak. Arizona, Miss, Utah Kansas – those States that are key for McCain to get the electoral votes – Va Co Mich, Penna, Fl, Ohio need action – by that go to http://www.usnpl.com or http://www.publishaletter.com and write your heart out to the editors – or as I do – go to the individual newspaper on line – look for political articles about either candidate – sign up to post on their site and post away – did that for Hillary during the primaries – and its amazing how much you get to the public that way – of course you will have to go against the OBOTS – but still there will be people listening to what you have to say.
Its all about electoral votes now – if we can not turn the big states of California and New York, Illinois and Massachusetts – will have to make it up elsewhere -
Anyway – I am going to do extensive research on the STATES that he has to win the electoral votes and publish it later on this week.
#120 NewOrleansPuma on 09.16.08 at 11:12 am #112Asian4Hillary: That would be CDM (abbreviation for Cafe Du Monde, the place in the quarter by the river in front of Jackson Square where you can get beignets.)
Yes, Metairie, it is right next to the city limits of New Orleans: pronounced Met-tree. Sounds like they are selling CDM as a gourmet type coffee given the price, which it is , but not here, because almost everything here is considered gourmet somewhere else…
Where are you located?
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I’m in Washington State, the most radical state of the Union.
YES! that’s the one CAFE DU MONDE! Oh my goodness! smooth tasting coffee!
who cares if CNN choses to do its job, now. I don’t. CNN should have taken care of things earlier. The people who watch CNN are all already in the tank for Obama and it won’t matter whether or not CNN spends 5,10, 15, or 20 minutes a day covering “the real” Obama. CNN went after the Clintons and EVERY SINGLE CLINTON VOTER EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. I’ve been called a racist enough by CNN and Campbell Brown and Donna Brazile that I don’t think they’ll actually do sh-t with any of those people on there.
Oh, Just one thing I wanted to thank DanceswithPumas publically for sending me the pictures of my grand daughters and I at Puma HQ, they are wearing the shirts Murphy gave them. I was so happy because I lost my camera at the Chris Mathhews protest, and lost all my Puma pictures of the first 3 days in Denver. It was the best gift I have got in a long long time.
Thanks again Sis!
#106 snowtiger No, I did caught towards the end when they were summarizing their stands. One man was heavy set with blondish hair.
I was so shocked when I heard them say that *61 has been giving them “talking points” to talk to him…that was a shock! But they will go along with it no more. One of them said it makes them “look bad.”
God Bless America, Murphy and all PUMAS that have stood firm for Country First!
After we win this battle, watch out Congress…we will be heard and your votes will reflect us not special interests!
#122bobram: Thanks very much, bobram for the details. I will check that out and look forward to your futher posts for additional details re specific states!
HEY GUYS….
I’M FEELING RAMBUNKTIOUS TODAY. WHO WANTS TO JOIN ME IN A LITTLE BRAZILLE EMAIL. TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE…..
Hi Donna,
Just wanted to thank you for the demise of the Democratic party as we once knew it, and thanks for getting us excited about getting involved in politics. Thanks for making us take notice and most of all, Donna, thanks for bring to light who the Under Belly of the DEM party really is……
We appreciate all you have done for us. We can now say we are reaping the rewards of our fight and we owe it ALL to you……..
Yours Truly, (not really)
mimi1020
PUMA DEMOCRAT
#125 prplvette85 on 09.16.08 at 11:19 am
I don’t know if your picture is in the video I’ve made for PUMAs that went to Denver Convention. All pictures was provided by SouthJerseyPuma.
Here’s the URL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8atlgFlINCE
#126 NoMoreInFL
TIME TO BRING THE WEISEL TO THE LIGHT…..ROFLMAO.
FINALLY, AT LEAST IT’S SOMETHING!
antifish…on my way out to vote, usually wait for hubby to come home at 5 but I CAN’T WAIT TO VOTE FOR ED!!
I have little hope of keeping Kerry off the ticket but one MUST try!
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Thank you Murphy, you are the best. You look like a PUMA should but your ROAR is priceless!
KUDOS neighbor.
put on cspan. the do nothing congress is discussing nancy pelosi’s do nothing energy bill is being discussed. People need to listen and wake up!!
124 Dem4Hillary
No more 24/7 “O” commercial on cnn.
I agree as far as we are concerned but, thinkn of what the obots will go through.
A lot of people will begin to see the real Carpathia and that will just bring him down faster.
I’m loving it.
#133 snowtiger on 09.16.08 at 11:27 am
Good morning snow! How are you? Oh I think you’re our stud muffin here!
#123Asian4Hillary: Yes, that is a very old local brand here and well beloved. I went to Washington state once in my life for work…Spokane…only there for 2 days, but truly thought it beautiful…the topography…
I saw two, what I thought looked like giant squirrels!..but to this day I do not know what they were…Looked like giant chimpmunks to me too..They sat and looked at me for quite a while…and I , they!
I wonder what they were, as I had never seen anything like them before..They were cute.
#129 Asian4Hillary- Thank you! That is a beautiful video!
Thanks Jersey!
Oh My!!! Look what I found:
http://www.gop.com/ycmtu.htm
This shows voter fraud all over the United States. Read it and weep.
#135 NewOrleansPuma on 09.16.08 at 11:29 am
Yup! our state is gorgeous EXCEPT for the rain which made our state famous…..too much rain even in summer time
But I still prefer Alaska, if you haven’t been there, you must visit Alaska during summer, 24 hours daylight, wildflowers growing all over the place. When I moved temporarily to Hawaii, I can’t wait to go back home in Alaska.
Obama admits playing the race card. Old video but still true. It’s how he won S.C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQY_9ZcsjpQ
Thanks so much Dances and snow!! Sorry for the delay in response, had an emergency lunch run! LOL
NoMoreInFL,
Hello, did you get my email lastnight?
134 Asian4Hillary
Good morning . Rofl. Stud muffin?
I’m loving it. All these strong intelligent beautiful women and me? Who could ask for more?
Anonymous said…
I can’t believe you stabbed Murphy in the heart by starting your own blog.
September 16, 2008 10:42 AM
First of all, my “Blog” is to post what I want to address and be able to piss and moan about! It is no way stabbing Murphy in the heart! Murphy is a big girl and if she has a problem with it she know’s who I am and can speak for herself! I am not out to “STEAL PUMA’sfrom this blog! And as I responded to you, since you are not woman/man enough to say who you are, last time I checked, this is a “FREE COUNTRY!”
To whoever commented, you are a ridiculous twit! Don’t like my blog? Then don’t read it!
Murphy, if you have an issue with me, or not, starting my “own” blog, please set this straight here. I’m sorry I have to even address such a “STUPID” issue! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re my #79 post earlier….. I was not talking anti abortion. I was talking about the “born alive” law that almost very dem in congress voted FOR including Pelosi… to protect a baby who had survived an abortion. This same law was one (identical to the one congress passed almost unanimously) that Obama voted against in IL. This was what that ad was talking about… that law that Obama voted against, and ALMOST everyone in congress voted for. In defense of my post, I am not sure why I am being attacked as being against abortion, when this is (as I stated in post #79) something that almost everybody in congress whether prochoice OR prolife saw as a good law and Obama saw as a bad one. Please explain why I am being accused of sticking out like a sore thumb and being anti abortion for saying something like this?
#141 Beca4Hillary Yes I did. Did you get my reply?
#143 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.16.08 at 11:38 am
I visited your blog, I think its beautiful! I left a comment there. I don’t like the way NObama toss his flowers, it was very disrespectful, I also don’t like that poster of NObama supporters using Trig for their hate.
#143 SouthJerseyPUMA
Morning south,
I iddn’t see the post by anonymus but
*********TROLL ALERT***********************
No one would oppose another PUMA creating a blog for petes sake. At least none of us. The more our message gets out the better.
I commented at your blog this morning and love it btw.
I am sure Murphy has no problem and will probably encourage you.
Italians are so hot headed sometimes.
#15 Murphy
I am not someone who has ever idolized movie stars, rock stars,etc (or liars), but I was a fan of Bruce Springsteen. I love his lyrics, like his commitment to working class ideals, and down-home attitude even as a star. However, he has gone over to the other side with BO, and I have to “wipe that man right out of my hair”.
Regarding voter fraud, as I mentioned a couple of days ago, I received an absentee ballot application although I didn’t request it. I am a life-long Dem, have lived in this house for 42 yrs. and I have never asked for nor have I been sent one. It made me wonder if someone had marked my poll information, sent me the application, and knowing that I wouldn’t respond to it, sent one in for me, having my ballot mailed to Tim-buk-to, OH. Yesterday I called my election board and inquired about my voting status, I was assured that nothing says I’m an absentee voter and that they have procedures in place to prevent my voting twice!!! Well. I want to make sure that when I vote in person at my regular polling place that there is no question which vote I want to count. Also, I asked what I could do to make sure that they have it on record that if an application shows up in my name, that it is fraudulent. The lady I talked to said I was being paranoid, but I said I have every reason to be paranoid this year. Her answer was that I should call the Dem. Party. Yikes, ask the fox if my vote is safe. I asked her for the Republican party number. Called them and they were also “paranoid”, said that they would have the party chairman get right on it, and make sure that my and others are not being scammed out of their votes. The ballots do not go out until about 3 weeks before the election, so I plan to call my election board back and make sure that I’ve still got my vote.
By the way, the election board told me that they did not send out that absentee ballot, that it came from a Dem. campaign,
SJP
Good for you starting your own blog! I have often thought it would be good to have an extra place to go sometimes to be able to caps locks scream out my opinion.
I usually just stay here and call my sister to vent LOL.
I dont think its a betrayal. I think its a growth and a branch for people who may feel along the same lines as you, though I admit I am not sure how that is..(sorry until you posted didn’t know you had a blog).
Good luck and much love to you
#144 KarenWI Don’t get defensive! As PUMAs we have one goal…
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
#144 KarenWI on 09.16.08 at 11:40 am
YUP!!!! NOBAMA voted AGAINST BORN ALIVE INFANT PROTECTION ACT. The man is PURE EVIL! We should call NOBAMA from now on the DEVIL IN BLUE SUIT and EMPTY SUIT at that!
145 NoMoreInFL,
I am at work, I will check tonight
GOOD NEWS
I just talked to the RNC of Texas and asked them about the internet rumor that the democrat and republican parties filed too late to be on the ballot. She said that it wasn’t true. She said that the ballot was late at being released to the Secretary of State but that all candidates filed on time and were listed.
91 prplvette85 on 09.16.08 at 10:54 am Hey Murphy- why am I in Moderation…..I have been a good Puma
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Be careful, PurplePaisanPuma, otherwise Mama is going to start “watching” you, and believe you me, you do not want that to happen.
Before I leave for the day which state is voting today? Or did I read info wrong?
Thanks Asian~ It just pisses me off that some twit accuses me of stabbing Murphy in the heart because I have done a site to post things that I find insulting, pisses me off, or whatever else I feel I want to address!! as I said I am not another “PUMA” blog out to steal PUMA’s from this site~ I just asked for my PUMA family to come read and comment~ actually I dont know why I am letting some twit piss me off! maybe they are just jealous because they dont know how to write their own! and a “TRUE PUMA” here in this blog~ would not make such a comment!
#36 greenfun
Thanks greenfunny, gave it to Drudge.
((((((greenfun)))))))
#143…OK South Jersey PUMA…what/where is your blog?
Also, if one were to look at JSND, you will find a host of sites and I am willing to bet that not all “PUMA-like” sites are there ! Many if us float between a few sites. This is not competition between sites but folks expressing their political beliefs with the tools they have and folks going out and seeking where they can best fit in and participate, learn and be a part of the political process. Just my thoughts on this.
#144KarenWI: Hi, KarenWi…good to see you here!
We have wonderfully energized, adamant souls here, which is why this Pac has worked…As a matter of fact, sooner or later, lots of someones ” seem to some others to stick out like a sore thumb on something or other, whether that perception is real or not…Roll with it, Karen Wi…I know you can.. The place rocks and rolls in many ways..and you know who I am….Right? New Orleans…your cohort from way down yonder!
On KarenWI:
She was not an advocate for anti- abortion in her above post. She was absolutely right, in my opinion, about the young lady who was on FOX yesterday. That young lady survived an abortion and if the doctor had been present she would have been left to die of worse could have been suffocated. In the doctor’s absence the nurse called 9-1-1 and the hospital saved the infant.
I’m not anti-abortion either,nor am I pro-abortion.
SouthJerseyPUMA ,
What is your link???
148 atypical
I used to enjoy Barry Horomitz’s music too. Aka bruce springsteen. That was until the “We are the World ” video was made.
Barry showed up in his limo and complained, along with others that the shoot wasn’t catered. Almost wound up being canceled over that until the producer asked the complainers how they would feel when the story broke.
If you remeber those days it mightb come to mind how many othe people in the video suddenly disappeared from the fund raising efforts after that. “The Boss” being just one who suddenly had other “commitments”.
Bruce is and has always been a fraud imho.
wow snow… I didn’t know that…losing so many heros this year..
Morning PUMAs!
Please let me know if you tried to contact either the DNC or your state Democratic office and requested a list of how your Clinton Democrats voted at the convention, and what the results were even if you were turned down.
I am trying to gather info on what was told to the voters that requested these results and if anyone was successful in getting the info.
thanks Carrie and Snow! and just like I said a true PUMA would NEVER!!!!
(((Jersey))))
Barry Horowitz*
Before I leave for the day which state is voting today? Or did I read info wrong?
Test
yeah. but I like his music.
I like John Cusack’s acting too.
and Matt Damon is hot.
BECA~
http://southjerseypumas.blogspot.com/
Massachusetts is voting today!
GO ED!!
Actually I better GO vote before I put it off again.
SJP, I didnt see that comment. Did someone leave it at your site??
Of course I’m happy that you started a blog!! I’m sorry this is the first I’ve heard of it. Can you send me a link so I can put it on the blogroll??
Thanks! and never let the grumblers get you down.
1gypsy4mc on 09.16.08 at 11:47 am Before I leave for the day which state is voting today? Or did I read info wrong?
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Massachusetts Dem primary
#159. Hi NewOrleans. Yup, I know you from elsewhere. Were you aware that I had to change my “handle” there from KarenWI, and changed it to MacPalin? LOL… With all the trollfests in there lately I didn’t mind too much because it probably was best that I didn’t show I was female, LOL (just as Pammie used “Joe” for awhile). I’m not all riled up…. it’s ok. I just was taken by surprise when there was such a strong negative reaction to that post, that’s all. You know me…. I’m not a quitter.
If I have anything to do with it, NEW JERSEY WILL BE A RED STATE REAL SOON!!!!
#163 Caracal Carrie
I’ve often told people that hllywood “liberals” are no suchthing. Thye really have no political afiliation and spout the leftist line because it makes easy sound bites. There a few of course who know what they are talking about but, for the most part they are just self serving con artists.
Did you know that their are business’s that research what causes a cerrtaain celebrity should support? Based on their fan base?These companies are in constant demand in hollyweird.
What a joke.
#42 Asian-
That has already happened, I don’t remember where, but a K or 1st grader kissed a girl in his class and was suspended.
Good grief, I have 3 sons, and it was always the girls who chased them, even in pre-school. I should have had them arrested!!
MA is voting today? What? A primary? We just had ours in WI last week. It took most everybody here by surprise because it wasn’t publicized at ALL. Suddenly the sample ballot shows up in the paper the night before and everybody was taken off guard. Voter turnout was REALLY low as a result unfortunately.
170 SouthJerseyPUMA,
Thanks, do you sell those t-shirts?
Thank you Murphy~ you know I love you! and that was never an intention by me~ I know you know that! I will send you an email~ now GO VOTE!!!!!! xoxo
As usual spent more time here than I meant to. Must go.
Have fun all. BBL if I can.
Here is the PROWL regarding Obama’s violation of the Logan Act. I’ve already done it. All Pumas here should send it out, and MURPHY, this is all done, all you have to do is send it by e-mail all Pumas.
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BY FAX: (202) 224 – 7416.
Senate Ethics Committee
Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Room 220
Washington DC 20510
Re: Senator Obama’s violation of THE LOGAN ACT*
Dear Senate Ethics Committee:
I am again writing to ask you to conduct an investigation into Senator Barak Obama for possible violations of the Logan Act.
(1) During his trip to the Middle East, as well as conduct unbecoming a United States Senator for his political campaigning in foreign countries.
If Obama’s trip to Israel was official fact-finding and not campaigning, why do Obama supporters there have large official Obama campaign banners up? Please see the following link showing Obama supporters with campaign signs written in Hebrew.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-campaigned-at-western-wall
(2) McCain Responds to Obama’s Reported Undermining of the Commander-In-Chief During Wartime [Andy McCarthy]
The McCain Campaign has issued a statement responding to the report from Amer Taheri (see today’s web briefing) that Sen. Obama secretly negotiated with the Iraqi government regarding U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. McCain spokesman Randy Scheunemann stated as follows:
“At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq’s Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama’s judgment and it demands an explanation. “
I have not received a response to my previous fax and ask that you please investigate this matter and respond to me.
Thank You, (Name, Address)
*Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects
THANKS – SEE YA’LL LATER!
BECA! DEAR GAUD HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who would even consider buying them? DID YOU READ THE POST? It DISGUSTED ME!!
#147 snowtiger-Italians are so hot headed sometimes.
Hey watch it! (I say this with Puma Love)
!!!!
I prefer to say we are a passionate people!
we are not fricken hot headed
#173KarenWi: That is right you are not a quitter…and neither is this crew…for sure…Yes, I saw you had to change your username…I have been at the squashing the roach trolls for 11 months. I need a rest from it..
At this point, I think on that site, more factual info posted by supporters would do more good than trying to squash the crawlin roaches, whose only intention, as you know ,is chaos… There are strong, bright, action oriented warriors here, as you can see and you are one among them! So very good to be on here when you are!
Yes, that is why I was a little surprised
I have
Yes, that is why I was a little surprised
I have to go now, talk to you soon
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183 SouthJerseyPUMA
Yes, that is why I was a little surprised
I have to go now, talk to you soon
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my mix of irish doesnt help either!
hope your good!!!
News Flash…just on the radio that in the Orlando Sentinel there will be an insert on “Muslin Extremists” to educate the public.
*61 should of never said…my Muslim faith.
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
Be back in a while. Have to reboot to another site for work.
Carrie, Here’s another link to the Iraq withdrawal delay:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/obama-appears-to-use-us-soldiers-as-pawns-to-win-the-presidency/
SouthJerseyPUMA,
I am working hard in North and Central Jersey. BTW… I have been using these articles from Investors Business Daily. Great detail on who Obama is and the damage his policies would inflict. I’ve been successful in getting people off the fence. Even got two Obots to flip. Which was a shock. Facts are like kryponite to an Obot.
IBD keeps coming out with more editorials good editorials every week on Obama, McCain, Palin, Biden. I’m thinking of creating a PDF with all the IBD highlights and emailing it and handing it out.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/FeaturedCategories.aspx?sid=1823&cid=1803
#170 SouthJerseyPUMA
Well done!!
I agree that NObama’s rose “free throw” had a careless, cavalier feeling to it — inappropriate for the solemn 9/11 ceremony.
Murphy, your kind reassurance and encouragement of SJP in developing her web voice was EXACTLY what I have come to expect from you.
#156 SouthJerseyPUMA ,
Ignore those comments. Many of us have our own blogs. Murphy is well aware of that. Murphy has the largest and best action site on the internet and has nothing to worry about. There are hundreds of puma sites in the Just Say No Deal coalition. We are all pumas. The other sites are just additional places to get information or to vent your opinions. Everyone comes here to take action to reach our common goal of NOBAMA.
NewOrleans (let’s see if this turns out), LOL :”)
Hmmm.. it didn’t…. it was supposed to be blushing smiley… LOL
Murphey:
This is the second day someone has mentioned vegetarianism in this blog. Are you a vegetarian? Do you just dislike dabblers? As a most of my life vegetarian, with 2 kids who are all their life vegetarians, I find the introduction of the subject odd.
btw: Independent, Hillary supporter, NObama, but think comments about the beliefs of someone else is out of place when our main job in fighting the stolen nomination and the dangers to our party. Abortion, race, religion, etc. should not be a factor in this fight’
Assert your authority and keep people on task; we are running out of time.
Polls looking good, we have Hope WE can believe in. But Change can be swift and we could lose.
Thanks for the hard work and long hours you put in; we are ALL happy to be able to come here and share the information.
For NObama to go to Iraq and ask Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari to stall withdrawal of our troops is downright EVIL. He doesn’t care about the welfare of our soldiers or their safety, he is all for this ONLY for HIS SELF. Arrogant freaking ARSEHOLE!
My nephew is leaving for Iraq this week, I worry about his safety but I understand he must do his duty as member of our Armed Forces. His two cousins are already in Iraq.
For NObama to go to Iraq asking to stall the withdrawal of our troops is making me angry. I want to slap him silly until he would look like an freaking old shirt not even fit to wipe my kitchen floor!
KAREN WI – GO HERE – print the page and save it to your documents:
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
bbl – honestly
KAREN WI – DON’T PRINT – ONLY SAVE!
193# wow! thanks silent dogood!! great things there to bring out in point!!! thanks for the heads up!! UPS stores are great to print up alot of flyers, as well asa office depo and such. get the news out anyway you can!
194# thank you also for the kudos!
*McCain is on fox in Tampa now~
#108 mick on 09.16.08 at 11:05 am
I, for one, have never stated that the Gwich’in live IN the 1002 lands. However, the tiny area on the coastal plain known as the 1002 lands is the site of the ONLY birthing ground of the Porcupine Caribou herd, upon which the Gwich’in depend upon for their very lives.
The Gwich’in live in the far north, near the refuge, their villages scattered all along the migratory path of the caribou herd. For thousands of years, they have relied upon this herd as their primary source of sustenance. Each spring, the herd makes its way northward in a massive migration to their SOLE birthing grounds along the northern coastal plain – the 1002 lands. Nature, in her infinite wisdom, has helped to make this the most ideal place for the caribou to give birth. The insects, which torture the caribou in other areas, and can actually devour a newborn, are mercifully at their lowest concentration in this northern coastal plain, mainly because of the thin band of coastal winds. The rest of the coastal plain, Prudhoe Bay for example, has already been taken over by the oil industry. This small section of the refuge is all that is left in that area. There is no other place for the caribou to successfully give birth that would allow the Gwich’in to remain in their homeland. If the caribou herd is forced to change their migratory path, or die out without the intrinsic protection of the northern coastal plain, then the Gwinch’in will indeed lose their life as they know it.
I really have no problem with the people who disagree with me on this issue . . . they are absolutely free to do so. What I DO have a problem with is when people make ridiculous arguments without ever taking the time to find out even the basic information. For example, there is one poster here who has argued that this whole thing is a hoax, and that there are no Native Americans living in Alaska. That sort of ignorance is makes me crazy.
It had always been intended that the 1002 lands receive permanent protection. A loophole in the Act left that small area vulnerable, a fact that has been exploited by the oil lobby. President Carter, for one, had vowed to pass the resolution for permanent protection before he left office, but it didn’t happen.
Hillary Clinton has also worked very hard toward the permanent protection of the entire refuge.
Here’s another article regarding the plight of the Gwich’in that I recently came across:
http://www.alternet.org/story/11050/drilling_in_alaska:_over_dead_gwich‘in_bodies/?page=entire
SouthJerseyPuma
I got a simple advise for those nitwits posting in your blog
Sit down on your reclining chair, put your feet up make a fist with your right hand, raise it on eye length level, slowly turn your fist with palm facing towards you and slowly extend your middle finger and SMILE.
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thank you!
#197KarenWi: Thank you…I see it in my imagination!
Caracal Carrie is developing with others a great site with material to use against Obimbo. Now, I can not remember the link..can someone help me? You need to visit it and use the materials, as well as pass it around to Nobama advocates. It is filled with the best and most useful information on the Internet!
Someone please post the link again for Karen Wi, please? Thank you.
DONE ASIAN!! lmao!!!
Thanks 1gypsy… done.
ok got to check out Asian’s video of PUMA’s in Denver!! Asian I have so many more but had a hard time loading them the other night~ will try to work on it after lunch~ havent had a bite yet today!! bbl~
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#205 SouthJerseyPUMA,
Caracal Carrie: Will you please post again here the link to the antiobama material site you are continuing to develop? Thanks.
Ok, I”ll watch for the link N.O. (trying something from a different page)… <3
Hmm… that other page is no good… supposed to be a heart. Sorry
Hey, Barry, you CAN judge a man by the company he keeps!
Did Bernadine and Bill let you try on the rings that the North Vietnamese presented to them (made from the metal of downed US Military Aircraft)?
From: ttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2083301/posts
“Even before Weatherman began its notorious bombing campaign, the group’s future leaders had formed relationships with others who shared their hatred for “Amerikkka.”
Bernadine Dohrn made numerous contacts with Fidel Castro’s Cuban Mission at the UN in 1968 and 1969, during which time she arranged for SDS groups to visit Havana.
After returning from Cuba, Dohrn and others met with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong representatives in Budapest, Hungary, to discuss antiwar strategy on US campuses. Speaking a few days later at an assembly of revolutionary student movements at Columbia University, Dohrn reported that the Vietnamese communists she met in Budapest were working with US GIs in Saigon, attempting to obtain military information.
As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he “left the room to cry.” He said, “I realized…America was an evil… and that I was… living inside the belly of the beast….”
#80
Hell no, who would want to think of Obama at all?
McCain is only in the “if you’re not with the one you love, love the one you’re with” category for now.
#203 BLUEJAY I agaree with you 100%. No one wants to face the facts that we are slowly destroying the earth and this area is very critical. However, I will say that Bill Clinton when he left office had the opportunity to forever safe ANWR and simply said “I will leave it up to the next President to decide this.” I have never forgiven him for that. Will you please e-mail me at prowlhawkke at gee mail
I faxed a letter to John McCain regarding this issue yesterday and want to forward it to you.
#199 Asian4Hillary Please see my Post #181 and take action. Just talking about this does nothing to stop him. At least, we can try.
Oooops:
Live link to #214 above:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2083301/posts
I’m not sure what to think about ANWR…. as we’ve learned from Palin, the people in AK are dependent upon the wildlife for food to survive there. Therefore, keeping their habitat safe for their wildlife is VITAL to them. And yet it is the Alaskan people who are the strongest supporters of drilling in Alaska. Why? They MUST feel that it would keep their wildlife safe, or they wouldn’t be doing it. I guess my personal train of thought about ANWR is this…. those who life there, and who depend on the wildlife being untouched for them to have food to survive, should be the ones to decide whether to drill there or not. If they are against it, don’t do it. If they are for it, then who are we to be against it? My personal opinion only here.
For all of you still debating here about ANWR, we have made huge techology changes since 30 years ago, let’s continue to listen to Sarah Palin explain this issue, she does live there afterall. Do you really think she would want her state’s enviornment destroyed?
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on another note, here’s what Black Barry (barak) said on this phone with the Iraqi leader before he went to Iraq
“I emphasized to him how encouraged I was by the reductions in violence in Iraq, but also insisted that it is important for us to begin the process of withdrawing U.S. troops, making clear that we have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq,” the senator said. “I gave him an assurance that should we be elected, an Obama administration will make sure that we continue with the progress that’s been made in Iraq, that we won’t act precipitously, but that we will move to end U.S. combat forces in Iraq in a manner that’s as careful as we were careless getting in.”
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is this not undermining what our President was doing, even before the visit and the ‘delaying troops withdrawl” til after the elections…?
184 prplvette85
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147 snowtiger-Italians are so hot headed sometimes.
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Hey watch it! (I say this with Puma Love)
I prefer to say we are a passionate people!
we are not fricken hot headed
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Oh yeah? Then why is my hair on fire?? huh? huh?
This is Gianna Jessen, survivor of late term abortion. IF NOBAMA have his way, Gianna wouldn’t be alive today. He voted AGAINST Born Alive Infant Protection Act (BAIPA).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ
#100 No More,
I can hardly believe that. Someone will have to let us know when it happens as many of us boycott them.
I USED to be a fan of Chevy Chase. Here is his view of Sarah Palin:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26718574#26718574
Listen to what his wife says too. It is disgusting.
#75 MJT
I agree!! The BO Campaign is very, very worried in N.C. They came to my house and had all my and my husbands voter registration information. They wanted to know who we were voting for. First he asked who I was voting for and when I answered McCain/Palin, he had enough nerve to ask who my husband was voting for!!! As if I would live in a divided home!! This made red flags go up and I have concerns about their having my information knowing that I am voting as a reg. Dem for Rep. I think they are already up to something here.
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Please let me know if you tried to contact either the DNC or your state Democratic office and requested a list of how your Clinton Democrats voted at the convention, and what the results were even if you were turned down.
I am trying to gather info on what was told to the voters that requested these results and if anyone was successful in getting the info.
Asian4Hillary the video is beautiful! thank you!
♥ ( I have hosted it for all to see)
#219KarenWi: I agree with your conclusions here.
OMG I cannot believe what I just heard come out of Obama’s mouth (then again maybe I do) as he is currently speaking I “believe” in Colorado. In referring to this Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Lehman Brother collapse he says, and I quote, “This isn’t 9-11, we know how we got into this mess”. Sounds eerily familiar to the teachings of Reverend Wright and his views of 9-11. He has taught his disciples well.
#225fineartistinoil: I agree. No one should tell anyone calling or coming to the door this kind of information.
We do not owe anyone from the Obama camp any information. The hell with them and their sleze. Actually, from this point on, I would and will do everything I can do to give them disinformation or nothing. I tell people like this: that is my business, not yours and hang up or close the door. This is especially true regarding absentee voting. For all you know these people can forge an absentee vote and by the time you get to the polls, you have already voted! Please everyone be very careful here.
Great post KarenWI. The links that I posted were articles from people that live there and that’s exactly the point that they are making. I live in Louisiana and I’ve seen first hand the pros and cons of drilling in this area. IMO, the locals are the people that know what’s best for their community.
#219 KarenWI on 09.16.08 at 12:37 pm
I’m not sure what to think about ANWR…. as we’ve learned from Palin, the people in AK are dependent upon the wildlife for food to survive there. Therefore, keeping their habitat safe for their wildlife is VITAL to them. And yet it is the Alaskan people who are the strongest supporters of drilling in Alaska. Why? They MUST feel that it would keep their wildlife safe, or they wouldn’t be doing it. I guess my personal train of thought about ANWR is this…. those who life there, and who depend on the wildlife being untouched for them to have food to survive, should be the ones to decide whether to drill there or not. If they are against it, don’t do it. If they are for it, then who are we to be against it? My personal opinion only here.
#226 Billie Jo I did speak to the FL DNC and I believe, Alice Germond. She said there was a privacy problem and if I wanted to see the results, I would have to go to the FL Dem Party office in Tallahassee to see them. Also, I told her I was voting for McCain/Palin and she said “thanks for sharing” and hung up on me.
230 NewOrleansPuma
That is what I am concerned about. They are up to something..I have never in past elections been approached before. Someone needs to seriously watch N.C. for possible voting fraud in Nov.
girlsrule#229, you have got to be kidding me, jees, oh my lord…i agree with you.
#219 KarenWI Please go here and see what drilling has done. Just because Palin thinks it’s o.k. doesn’t make it right. I don’t see any rigs off the lake she is living on.
http://www.gwichinsteeringcommittee.org/history.html
#221 DancesWithPumas I agree, us Italian-Americans are not “hot-headed”, we just know those that need cement shoes!!
SouthJerseyPuma
That is fantastic! TY
Ladyhawke
I already made phone calls when I read the news, I called the Whitehouse my US Senators and the State Department. I have a lot at stake here, I have two nephews in Iraq, another one leaving for Iraq this week.
#233 fineartistinoil,
Howdy there,
I went to my local Elections Office and we talked about voter fraud.She told me that NC does not only count votes with the Machine,they keep the forms and compare the votes.They keep a paper trail.
#144 KarenWI I am both pro-choice and pro-life. I agree with Karen that Obama not voting for the born alive act is despicable. I am also against late term abortions, I consider that murder. If you don’t know whether you want your baby before having to suck it’s brains out, then I have a problem with that.
#233fineartsinoil: I received a call on behalf of a candidate running to replace Jefferson in the 1st Congressional District…I stopped them in the tracks and said..hey, you need to take me off that list…He said ok and hung up. I need to check now to see if I am still registered where I had been 5 years ago, actually,
For all I know I am…even as I know I have been registered outside that districl for 5 years. For all I know I i.e., someone fraudulantly posing as I,
will “vote” in that election,\ in that district, even as I vote for real and have in my district of 5 years!
No one would know the difference., actually. This is old time sleaze tactics, not removing voters who should have been removed and using their former residences as a residence in a district. I will need to check this before Nov 4.
solar,wind,nuclear and other alternative energy resources should all be developed to lessen our reliance on foriegn oil..
key word here is LESSEN
#162 snowtiger
Hey thanks for the insight. I don’t know that video nor had I ever heard before that Bruce was uppity. Well, now he is on my list so it doesn’t matter. (I do remember one negative thing, when he was married to #1, he was photographed on the balcony in his shorts with now wife #2. That shocked me, but what do I know about star morals._
Caracal Carrie or anyone else. I lost the copy of the video of the Pumas Caracal made and also RedRaz made one. I was in it as Ladyhawkke from Florida. If anyone has a copy of that, please post it. Thank you.
Will someone please tell me if Caracal Carrie is posting her resource links directly to our action center or on a separate site? I think I missed something over the last several days….SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND..THANKS.
The OSCE will be sending foreign election observers, but is doesn’t say where they will be stationed. I wonder if they take requests?!
http://www.osce.org/documents/html/pdftohtml/32444_en.pdf.html
#241 osaka puma on 09.16.08 at 1:05 pm
We have a LOT of NATURAL GAS to support this country for 60 years. We must use it NOW instead of leaving it there, in Alaska alone they’re sitting on big natural gas deposit. Building natural gas pipeline (Alaska to lower 48) is already approved by Governor Palin, the state of Alaska already give $500 million (seed money) for the company who will build the pipeline. The Natural Gas Pipeline will be owned by the State of Alaska not by oil companies. We must start converting to renewable energy now, within 10 years majority of our energy would be renewable. In UK they use diesel for their vehicles, some people are now mixing their diesel with cooking oil (60% diesel, 40% cooking oil). They use straight diesel on winter time only. If people do research in the internet they’d see how engine that uses diesel can use cooking oil for their vehicle.
Red State Update ~ hehe … this is really, really funny!!
Warning: for adult viewing only.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHBPQyoYXQ
Looks like Obama got caught in another whopper. Recall that Obama went on TV to tell the world he never stood against the “born alive” legislation, and that anyone saying otherwise was a liar. Turned out that Obama in fact voted against providing life saving measures to infants born alive in the abortion process.
Obama has taken a similar bent with his support of a bill that McCain said provided sex ed down to the K level. Obama again said that was a lie and that what the bill only provided was instructions on avoiding sexual predators. The MSM quickly picked up on that meme, apparently without checking the law.
A thorough analysis on what the law said, and its background:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzI3ZDUzOTE0ZThlMTU3MTY0MDI4ZTY0MTZhY2I2MGY=
That is one where I’ll bet Obama wishes he voted “present”. Whether you believe in sex ed at the K level or not, the real issue here is Obama’s attempts to bury his past record on issues that now don’t play well in the mainstream. What a snake – I wonder how many skins he has shed this week?
Article back in Feb claims Clinton was going to try and grab Obama’s pledged delegates and that pledged delegates are not bound to a candidate.
Article Pledged delegates are not really pledged at all, not even on the first ballot. This has been an open secret in the party for years, but it has never really mattered because there has almost always been a clear victor by the time the convention convened.
But not this time. This time, one candidate may enter the convention leading by just a few pledged delegates, and those delegates may find themselves being promised the sun, moon and stars to switch sides.
“I swear it is not happening now, but as we get closer to the convention, if it is a stalemate, everybody will be going after everybody’s delegates,” a senior Clinton official told me Monday afternoon. “All the rules will be going out the window.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html
Why do I bring this up now? Because this means the voters in the primary really have no say on who wins at the convention, and maybe if Hillary knows this, might be why she tossed in the towel in Denver.
this guy john fund just wrote a book about ACORN and obama .. it’s shady history of voting fraud..
he was on hannity show yesterday..he is worried about how obama and ACORN could steal the election with voting fraud
Palin ‘phenomenon’ hijacks online sales
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/16/palin.online.sales/index.html
Just came on to post a few news items I saw this morning. I haven’t read through the posts — so forgive me is this is duplicate news.
First: I saw them get a really old lady out of the audience at a Biden rally (I’m sure she was an attempt to appeal to PUMA’s or their perception of what us PUMA’s look like). She gets up to the podium and is asked what she thinks of Palin. To which, this elderly woman replies, “She’s an empty sack of fluff,” or something to that nature.
Is this the higher politics that Obama aspires to? I’ve never seen such a disgraceful display of crap.
The second item everyone needs to be made aware of if they hadn’t seen or heard the report. On Fox — Hemmer (is that his name?) had some guy on the phone from Palin’s area talking about the Troopergate problem. The man on the phone said that things were supposed to move along smoothly and everyone supports Palin and there was a panel of independent neutral people that were picked that are supposed to review the case. But Obama sent in a team of Obama supporters (that have a predetermined outcome for this thing) — and they are trying to replace the panel members with the Obama supporter people. Palin is not recognizing them. So if you hear reports from MSM that Palin is refusing to resolve this thing… that’s the real scoop behind the MSM talking points.
We need to get the word out on the truth about this. Can No Quarter, Riverdaughter, and other coalition sites report on this latest trickery from the Obama camp. The guy on the phone mentioned the Obamabots that are infiltrating this investigation are people that are well known on the Obama website for endorsing Obama.
238 tillerylakelady
Hello there! I need to call my local Elections Office as well. Now I am ready to place the McCain/Palin sign in my yard. You know, this close to Nov 3rd, I would expect to see some signs being placed in yards….This has not happened in my community yet???
WELL WELL WELL! It is OFICIAL!!
looks like the obots are running scared!! my my… the problem is obots lurking here, is that it’s my blog and I get to approve what comments post.. so keep wasting your breath and time responding~ lol… nice to know you my blog makes you sooooooooooooo mad and upset!
#249 BillieJoe With the exception of those states like CA that are bound by law to vote for the person who won the most pledged delegates.
#254 NJ Puma and where exactly is your blog? I would like to take a peek.
mzebest..
the obama campaign are real sleeeze balls and crooks..
these guys remind me of al capone and his old gang
#232 ladyhawkke on 09.16.08 at 12:51 pm
#226 Billie Jo I did speak to the FL DNC and I believe, Alice Germond. She said there was a privacy problem and if I wanted to see the results, I would have to go to the FL Dem Party office in Tallahassee to see them. Also, I told her I was voting for McCain/Palin and she said “thanks for sharing” and hung up on me.
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So, according to the FL state Democratic party, you would have to see the list in your capital but it is a privacy issue to list the voting to the public?
Unless you make the trip to Tallahassee to look at them yourself, you have no idea if they are even there.
Another PUMA in another state was told that their state’s Demo party did not have the tallies, that the DNC has them.
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Anyone starting to get the picture here?
The DNC is not making the voting public, I smell more corruption!
153 texassherry
i saw the sample ballots for every precinct in tarrant county yesterday and all candidates are accounted for – top to bottom – they came from our local county election headquarters – i imagine both parties counties’ headquarters will have them by now – i got to proof read one – eveyone is accounted for by my eyes.
opps had a chnge of thought on the last post. what i meant to say was, it’s nice to know that my blog makes you sooooooooooooo mad and upset! booohooo… can’t wait for the final sink~
Grizzly
so good to “see” you -
thought the train had left and i would never be able to redeem my ticket for the shotgun seat!!!!!!!
#257 osaka puma
You should have heard the voice of the guy talking to the Fox reporter. He sounded like he was desperate for help to get the Obama people out of this investigation… that they were causing more problems than anyone in the media could imagine. It sounded like he was discovering for the first time the level of meanness associated with Obama and it frightened him.
#181 Did prowl – will be gone later so I couldn’t wait for the e-mail.
this guy obama has brought out the worst in americans politics ,hes like a type of magnet that attracts all sorts of bad things to it..
Will someone please tell me where I can go to hook up with thelinks and materials that Caracal Carrie is work/ing on? I first saw a separate site and now I need to get back there but do not know the link>
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION?
iS THERE STILL A SEPARATE SITE OR IS SHE POSTING ALL TO OUR ACTION CENTER? I have asked several times for this…WILLSOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND?
tHANKS.
#255 ladyhawkke on 09.16.08 at 1:19 pm
#249 BillieJoe With the exception of those states like CA that are bound by law to vote for the person who won the most pledged delegates.
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I am from California and besides a ‘pass’ at the convention to spoil the momentum, some switched to Obama in the count.
Maybe this is a waste of time at this point to even try to find out how delegates really voted? I can only try to pressure Calif but if other PUMAs aren’t interested in this……one lone voter isn’t going to change anything.
hillary made a comment on mccian at a press confernece today..she sounded like a robot with a flat tone saying mccain doesnt understand economics and will just carry out bushes policies if hes elected..
she said it is a forced monotone voice..didnt sound right
256~ http://southjerseypumas.blogspot.com/
* I sit here laughing at how irritable i’ve made the obot that is commenting my blog~ hahhahhaa!! lmao!! Oh wait! Let me do what Asian suggested!! put my feet up, [done], make a fist with your right hand, [done], raise it on eye length level, [done], slowly turn your fist with palm facing towards you, [I'm there], and slowly extend your middle finger and SMILE [ahhh yes it can't get any better than that! except for the belly laugh!]
Deee-licious!
Obama refuses to share to bolster other Dems running in Novmeber:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13485.html
All he is giving them is permission to use his name! Last time I checked, Obama was pulling the rest of the Democratic ticket down with him – the congressional polls for November were rapidly slipping for democrats. Perhaps the only way using Obama’s name would help another Dem’s chances in November is if they started attacking him!
hey mzebest #252, great to see you.
fineartsinoil, havent seen you before, welcome!
Are you an oil painter? dumb question I suppose.
for a few minutes I was trying to work my brain around the idea that you are a fine artist who also works in the oil industry. would not compute.
Prowl will be distributed soon.
srry for the deelay.
253 fineartistinoil
in my community (hoa) we can only put out political signs 30 days out from the election.
overall, as you said, i, too, am seeing very few political signs in yards. however,the parties, both, are just now doing the -”may we place a yard sign in your yard “thingee with the voters here in my county. they are just now doing the email fundraiser to help them buy signs.
HOWDY ALL!!
I was wondering if you all seen this…
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/15/traitor-obama-betrays-soldiers/
#258 Billie Joe Rickie Lieberman of EW told me we were being stonewalled. I would love for anyone who lives near their state capitol to go there and demand to see the tally sheets. Seems like Alice Germond was going to have to alert them if I were going there. Why wouldn’t I just be able to go there? Why the alert? Me smells a rat!
Blue Blue Gal on 09.16.08 at 1:23 pm Grizzly
so good to “see” you -
thought the train had left and i would never be able to redeem my ticket for the shotgun seat!!!!!!!
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Right back at you. Folks in Houston are doing fine, just waiting for power. Galveston is another story.
southjersey..
those items obama morons are selling are really sick and stupid..
i think there are many sociopaths that are attracted to the obama campaign and i think many of them are hypocrites and just enjoy any opportunty to express their chickens..t crazy selves..
265 NewOrleansPuma
perhaps this is what you are asking for? our very own puma powered site?
http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx
#235… Like I said, I don’t know what to think. We know that all the food that Alaskans get is either shipped in or put in their freezers from hunting. Therefore keeping the wild game is VITAL to their survival. I can’t help but wonder at the accuracy of that page, because it seems really odd that Alaskans as a whole (not just Palin) are for drilling. If you listened to her speech when she arrived back in in AK last week (was it last week? LOL) you would have heard her say she would tell them to drill in AK and would have heard the wild, excited cheer that went long and loud there from the Alaskans. There must be SOME reason why they, who already have drilling done there, feel confident that it wouldn’t threatent the wildlife that they need to survive on. Again, I go back to my original statement. Let those who live there, and need the game to survive, decide. We shouldn’t be deciding FOR them when it is the very food on their table that is involved. Take a vote maybe… if the vote indicates that the majority of them want driling there (as it SEEMS to indicate), then DRILL. Why are we deciding this FOR them when it is their land and their food?
#265 NewOrleansPuma
http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx
New nickname for The Man-Child: Benedict Obama
BillieJo, my friend,
Maybe this is a waste of time at this point to even try to find out how delegates really voted? I can only try to pressure Calif but if other PUMAs aren’t interested in this……one lone voter isn’t going to change anything.
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It isn’t a waste of time! We never want to see a travesty of this nature happen again. If anything, you might want to adjust your timing… that is, pursue the matter after we completely defeat Ogoddamnamerika.
But, I think the matter is of utmost importance. I didn’t take the time to vote just so some chosen delegates could ignore it.
“one lone voter isn’t going to change anything”
Whaaa? Gandhi was one lone voter. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was one lone voter. Darragh Murphy is one lone voter. Riverdaughter is one lone voter. LadyBoomer is one lone voter. All PUMAs are lone voters.
One person with an idea can maniifest a movement of like minded lone voters. Take heart. Carry on. We support you!
#231 mick ,
I agree with you view on ANWR. I also like McCain’s view that offshore drilling should be left to the states that they border. This is my opinion and not necessarily the view of Pumapac. I only speak for myself so if anyone disagrees that is fine. We all have a right to our own opinions.
275 Grizzly
what i see on the news is frightening. entire houses washed away, foundation and all !!!!!
i think that seeing the pictures on the news, rather than finding out for yourself, may be too overpowering for many people. it can cause unbelievable depression.
It seems Obama’s campaign is not taking any chances anymore – he’s now using his teleprompter at the small campaign stops:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/15/obamas-teleprompter-hits-the-trail/
Anone remember Charlie MCCarthy, or better yet, Howdy Doody?
265 NewOrleansPuma
A SEPARATE SITE OR IS SHE POSTING ALL TO OUR ACTION CENTER?
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Carrie’s website is a separate site than the PumaPAC Action Center:
Carrie’s site:
http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx
PumaPAC Action Center:
http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html
#273 texas4hillary All the more reason to do ACT on my Post #181. Send to Senate Ethics Committe, put the heat on Obama. DO IT!
What’s wrong with the site? It’s freakin out. Took me forever and a half for it to come up.
NewOrleans was the link in #277 and 279 the one you were referring to?
278 KarenWI
don’t know why i have the impression that somewhere i was told -”the residents of the state of alaska benefit monetarily from the pipelines” don’t remember if it was a once a year check or only a once per resident check. maybe someone here knows where we can find out.
Howdy Doody for you young-uns:
http://www.doodyville.com/
Greetings to you all. Stopping by to encourage folks to take a look at these suggestions for what we can do – apart from applaud the failure of the fraudulent candidate the current DNC foisted upon us – to make sure that we rid the DNC of Howard Dean, who is clinging to his post as we all laugh at him and to make sure that the Clinton wing of the Party remains empowered.
Oh, and I’m from NJ and when Springsteen endorsed Obama I realized I would never feel the same about Bruce again. And, right when I returned from Denver I heard first hand from a NJ superdelegate about how Corzine and NJ State Dem chair got up and told all the delegates in the state’s morning meeting – uh, coercion session – that it was in the Party’s best interest for everybody to vote for Obama on the first ballot.
Two posts I respectfully suggest reading: http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/09/want-to-fix-the-broken-democratic-party-steps-you-can-take-now.html
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/time-to-make-sure-the-the-washington-political-crowd-gets-it.html
And now, I’m going to send Pumapac a small contribution.
Where does one go to fight the bots, I love a good fight
and since I do not know any Obama supporters, encountering a few would be wonderful. I have been spoiling for a fight for months now, LET ME AT EM!
Re: The Sarah Palin Phenomenom Is Doomed.
Blatant wishful thinking. Every time the MSM even mentions Sarah Palin, it increases her impact. The only thing they could try would be a media blackout, but that wouldn’t work either. And Fox’s ratings would go out the roof, because they will keep covering her. It’s obvious that Greta loves the Palins. Then there will be the debates, where she will most likely disembowel Biden.
284 Grizzly
buffalo bob and princess winter fall summer spring – you bet i do !!!! lol lol
#287 NVPuma
Recurring periodic maintenance
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289 BlueBlueGal
They receive an annual royalty payment of thousands of dollars, plus a subsidy on their heating bills.
#259 Blue Blue Gal,
Thank you for that info. That is good news and will save me a little work.
Here’s a youtube you all might enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=affW-ZgGswA
#289 they would get jobs there… no doubt about it. However, if it’s a choice between jobs and food, which would you choose? I guess everything I’ve heard (and this could be wrong) is that so many Alaskans are so proud of the pristine beauty of their land, not counting the dependence on the wild game. If things from drilling were as bad as that page indicated, surely they would know that, wouldn’t they? I mean…. I just can’t fathom them pushing for something that would not only destroy the pristine beauty that they are so proud of (plus their tourist industry as a result), but also their endanger their lives by not having the game needed to survive. It’s possible, of course. However, I stil think… it’s their land that they see every day and live off of… let them decide. Personal opinion only.
291 Heidi Li
Stopping by to encourage folks to take a look at these suggestions for what we can do – apart from applaud the failure of the fraudulent candidate the current DNC foisted upon us…
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Yes!!
And, thank you for all that you do!
295 DancesWithPumas
would that explain why an alaskan resident would want to forward with additional drilling – that it would increase their income?
By the way, the $1200 per person (or house I don’t know) isn’t for a new pipeline in AK… it is already passed into law because all of the excess money that the state has in it’s account from all of their natural resources there. Gov Palin is just sharing some of the excess of money with the residents (isn’t that unusual?)… this MAY be what post #289 was referring to?
How the DEVIL IN BLUE SUIT(NOBAMA) will answer to this? Every Democrats in the US Senate voted FOR IT, NObama voted AGAINST it as State Senator of Illinois and Chairman for health. The reason of NObama for voting against it, it was not identical what the US Senate had passed, he was a LYING, it was identical!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMwDq73gbm4
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari has apparently revealed that the centerpiece of Barack Obama’s conversation with Iraqi leaders in July was his hope of delaying the draw-down of American military forces in Iraq. Zebari’s recounts that Obama “asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington.” Obama also reportedly insisted that Congress steer negotiations on the time-table of troops withdrawal, rather than the Bush administration, which he described as being in a “state of weakness and political confusion.”
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Obama’s usual explanation
He is not the man i used to know LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
246 Asian4Hillary on 09.16.08 at 1:13 pm
Further to your comment:
Alaska is the largest State in America followed by Texas and California and has 663,267 square miles of land and water.
ANWR is a 19 million acre refuge that lies in the top northeast corner of Alaska. The area called 10-02 is named after section 10-20 of the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA), a congressional bill that expanded ANWR in 1980. 10-02 occupies 2000 acres, or roughly 3 square miles, of ANWR, and is legally classified as neither refuge nor wilderness.
Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told a radio audience in a recent interview with Glenn Beck, “I flew over and I also went down on the ground, I talked to the Eskimos there that want to drill. It’s 19.6 million acres.
There’s not a single tree in that entire area, not for 700 miles from where they want to drill for oil. This is a carbon copy of the ecosystem that we drilled in the north slope of Alaska in the early seventies.”
America needs oil Independance from the Middle East.
Thanks Puma-pac:
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#291 I know. Bon Jovi did a fundraiser for BO and that really bothers me. He was for Hill. It’s hard, I’m wanting to boycott ALL celebrities that endorse BO.
#292 You go Michelle!!!
#295 Thanks Dances.
300 Blue Blue Gal
Bingo!
#301 KarenWI on 09.16.08 at 1:54 pm
That is $1200 for EVERY man, woman and child in Alaska, that is just profit from oil not counting royalty the state received from oil (yearly permanent fund for every man, woman and child living in Alaska). Starting September 1 or Sept 29 of this year until October 2009, the people of Alaska will not pay state tax for they’re buying at the pump. Palin signed it into law this spring.
#146 Asian4Hillary on 09.16.08 at 11:42 am
I don’t like the way NObama toss his flowers, it was very disrespectful,
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Asian4Hillary, I thought I was the only one to notice how Obama STANDING, tossed the rose AT the heap of flowers.
This was during the memorial during 9/11 ceremony. In contrast McCain and wife bent down to LAY THE ROSE DOWN.
The small gestures, speak volumes about who we are – when things are unrehearsed, that’s when you see the actual person for who they are.
296 texassherry
glad to help.
also -the other day a puma from texas stated that she had received, as a pdf file, the sign in sheets for the texas delegates in denver. i said that we could sure use the info from the secret breakfast ballot. she/he then said ” that is exactly what this is, the breakfast ballot info” . it was suggested she mail it to murphy, to be forwarded to me. (thank you to the puma who made the suggestion) i am here frequently enough to note that i have not seen the login name again, so i cannot ask if info was forwarded to murphy. hopefully it was and all us texans can use it for some beneficial purpose.
#79 KarenWI,
I imagine you’re participating on various contentious blogs. Here’s the url to the Biden “Stand up, Chuck” video. Just paste it into the comment. There’s also a good one titled “It’s too late Obama” Here are the urls:
http://www.youtube.com/v/SRV5Y1JCGRI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_ipqk6dj4
#270 MURPHY,
Fineartsinoil is my baby sister.Talked her into checking us out,She liked what she saw and became a PUMA.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/the-sense-of-the-species/
I love riverdaughter’s post on why millions of PUMA will not vote for Obama in November. I am going to send it to newpapers and delegates and the DONC.
I had a nice conversation with our County Court Clerk this morning. In Indiana they handle all voter registration issues, and supervise the voting.
I had called her several weeks ago regards to voter fraud. She has taken steps to make sure the precints are secure and that no fraud takes place. She has had conversations about some of the fraud in Gary and Lake County Indiana, and they have also sharpened security.
She says this internet voter registration by Obama will not be accepted in our state. They are running pieces in all the local papers warning people not to give out personal information like ss # and DL numbers. She was already aware of some of his activities. She asked me to report any new schemes to her asap.
At least we have one state that may be safe from his fraud.
terry do..
i think oil usage could be reduced quite a bit if we had some type of driving rationing program here in america … there are way to many people out there driving just fooling around and not doing anything productive..take them fools off the roads.. (while youre at it get rid of those idiotic boom car stereo systems)
MISC STUFF
#56 – I agree.
# 144 – I found your post, as all of your posts, clear. No problem from where I sit, and I’m seriously left leaning person. Welcome and thanks for posting your thoughts, which I find to be very honest, non-confrontational and articulate.
Trish – Thanks for all your work gathering info for the Oprah boycott. I know you prefer to work behind the scenes, but girl, sometimes you’ve got to accept being acknowledged. so, thank you!
Gypsy – Thank you, as well!
Carical Carrie – You have turned out to be one smoking, self-starting, smart, tenacious member of the tribe! Thanks for your investigative work and for putting together that web site. How do you do it?
MA Primary – Will somebody post the results once they’re known.
VA and CO polls – Remember that these are states than are normally red, so I wouldn’t get too excited. I know the Dems were trying to turn some red states blue, but that’s a challenge. The fact that McCain is ahead in those states is how it should be for Republicans, traditionally. In fact, the fact that the races are tight likely has Republicans concerned.
Ouch!
“Cash-poor Obama says no to Reid
By: John Bresnahan
September 16, 2008 01:38 PM EST
Earlier this month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made a personal appeal to Barack Obama: Help me grow the Democrats’ Senate majority by sharing some of the $77 million you’ve got in the bank.
Obama’s campaign said no. ”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13485.html
#312
O yea Murphy forgot to mention,she is an artist.She paints beautiful pictures.
“America needs oil Independance from the Middle East.”
The United States gets 6% of its oil from the Middle East. We could knock out that 6% by using alternative energy sources. Peak Oil is on its way… are we going to late for the last moment and then go into crisis mode, as per usual?
PS When they quote land mass for drilling in ANWR, they never mention that the acreage isn’t contiguous.
Obama takes his “most serious financial crisis since the great depression” to $28,500 a plate dinner in Hollywood:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbh.htm
You can’t make this stuff up!
You know how to cut use of oil consumption in this country? WE NEED more railways! I used to live in Hongkong, people don’t bother driving their car, they use the subway or public bus all over the place. We can do the same thing here in the US. We LACK public transportation.
#310 Blue Blue Gal ,
Please keep us updated to anything you find out.
Someone may have posted this already, but it just boils my blood.
Obama is flying to California where Barbra Streisand is having a fundraiser for him at $28,500 per person.
How can he expect Americans to find him credible with this kind of money flowing to him and the rest of America is losing homes, losing jobs, have no health care, going bankrupt, etc.
This is crazy!
#270 murphy
Hello Murphy, I do paint in oil, and can use any other media. I was born with artistic ability that began as early as age four. In college I majored in Justice and Policy studies and have been employed in Law enforcement and Quality Management Director. Currently, I have two major art projects that I am working on. Feel free to view my website, just email me at fineartinoil@gmail.com and I will give you the link.
dances.. dont get into PEAK OIL because that entire scenario is just too nighmarish in scope to wrap ones head around
#288KarenWi: Yes, that is the site! Hurray…Thanks to
Blue,Blue Gal; Mimi1020 and Dances With Puma…I thought I was going nuts…because I could not remember the link .!
mick
“Help me grow the Democrats’ Senate majority by sharing some of the $77 million you’ve got in the bank. ”
Obama’s campaign said no. ”
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Ironically, one of the justifications for selecting obama was his ability to bring in cash which was predicted to assist the entire party. We knew ocrap didn’t play well with others, but I guess their money lust blinded them to that reality.
Senate majority… unda the bus!
Meanwhile, the Obots take another run at shutting down freedom of speech:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/wgnam_again_target_of_obama_ca.html
McCain only leading by 1 point. This race is too close for me. I will have to leave the country if XO gets near the WH.
312 tillerylakelady
We must have been typing at the same time. Ha!ha! I had to visit Fox and add my comments for the day regarding BO.
It occurs to me that IF Obama were all that concerned about poverty in America, he would not be spending 12 a billion $ campaingning, and hitting up every little old lady who attends an AA church for $5 per week to help him with his big project.
OOOPS! that should have been 1/2 a billion $ campaigning!
291 Heidi Li
Heidi, so glad to see you on the blog and admire you from afar……… Honestly, what is the best thing we can do as a group to keep Barack from winning? Many of us are trying to get the delegate vote at the convention out, and protesting sexism in the media in many ways.
What is the most effective attack we can do at this point in time in your opinion?
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy and other nitwits within the freaking Democratic Party have CREATED a MONSTER!!!!!
SERVES THEM RIGHT!!!
POETIC JUSTICE!!!
Karma is a bitch!!!!!
BillieJo
After the convention I called NV’s state chair who said Hillary got 8 votes, out of 33.
#329 ladyhawkke
Have faith my friend, I seriously doubt Oblahma will be Potus.
I know this much, Repubs are sooooo close (even ahead ) that they aren’t about to fold! They are coming with guns blazing and pretty soon we will ALL know for sure that the chosen one has been un-chosen!
322 texassherry
all good pumas share
mimi… thats the spirit!
Wow.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/cnns-crowley-obama-team-wanted-horrific-wall-street-headlines.html
$28,500 a plate! Less money for the Texans…..I just took all my Barbara Streisand albums off my IPOD. Didn’t she say NO, when HILLARY requested her to do a fund raiser????
SARTOM on 09.16.08 at 2:19 pm $28,500 a plate! Less money for the Texans…..
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Sure is.. “let them eat arugula”….
327 DancesWithPumas
my understanding is because he did not take public funding that he can call the shots as to where the money is disbursed. down ballot people in my county apparently are not benefitting from national party, according to my eavesdropping. hehe
Don’t be surprised if Washington is not as blue as people might think… I went to our local big fair and the Republican booth was hopping and everyone was wearing McCain/Palin stickers and pins, or carrying a rally sign. The news on Saturday said most recent polling went from a 17 point BO lead down to 4 points, for whatever a poll result is worth to anyone.
Puma.com
Search Item # 806878-18
I think I may buy this and wear it Nov. 4th.
the conventional wisdom has it that the debates will determine the outcome of the election..
i have a feeling that there is a “wildcard” somewhere in the works ready to be dealt that could take obama out..
obama has way too many unanswered questions hidden out there about his past connections,his ideology and his associates..
#319 DancesWithPumas,
Last year 16% came from the Persian Gulf countries. IMO, our goal should be “foreign” independence not just middle east independence. Canada or Mexico ?? … fine, but Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, or Nigeria … not okay with that.
“We imported only 16% of our crude oil and petroleum products from the Persian Gulf countries of Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates. During 2007, our five biggest suppliers of crude oil and petroleum products were:
Canada (18.2%)
Mexico (11.4%)
Saudi Arabia (11.0%)
Venezuela (10.1%)
Nigeria (8.4%)
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/energy_in_brief/foreign_oil_dependence.cfm
#319 DancesWithPumas on 09.16.08 at 2:05 pm
“America needs oil Independance from the Middle East.”
The United States gets 6% of its oil from the Middle East.
ACORN ON NOTICE: MCCAIN/PALIN CAMP SAYS:
CHECK IT OUT. ACORN SPOTTED IN MI AND ALREADY THEY HAVE CAUGHT MANY FRAUDULOUS REGISTRATIONS. SWING STATES BEWARE!!! ALL PUMA EYES AND EARS OPEN!
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-acorn-on-notice-mccain-palin-launch-anti-fraud-initiative/
334 Asian4Hillary
POETIC JUSTICE!!!
Karma is a bitch!!!!!
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and…
she’s wearing a pantsuit.
343 gostrumcat – did you go to the Puyallup fair? I love that fair, especially the Hurricane burgers, scones, elephant ears, etc.
CaracelCarrie: The Pumafact site is so very well done..Thank you again for all of your hard work! So much good…”bad” stuff there! And to the point..or points since there are so many regarding fraud Obinja.
I watched John McCain this morning(on TV ) even though he was only a few miles away. He looked fired up like he is done playing games and means buisness! He looked very presidential and I liked what he had to say. Good ridence obama.
#335 NVPuma on 09.16.08 at 2:16 pm
BillieJo
After the convention I called NV’s state chair who said Hillary got 8 votes, out of 33.
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Thanks NVPUMA, they didn’t tell you the names of the delegates that voted for Hillary – did they?
#204 What we need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil is Fuel Economy Standards which the auto industry lobbyists are against and, thus, convince our congress not to pass them. imagine how much energy would be saved if 30mpg were the norm.
LADYHAWKKE – I did my ACTION ITEM for you – however – I sincerely do not believe that Murphy will assist you in a prowl on this – the SOS and AG never became one either – maybe something to Donna or Dean would make more sense —-
My thoughts are to do as you did above – pinpoint those pumas who are into action items and call them forth to help you out – at least you will get a few takers that way – BillieJoe is always good as well as Gypsy1 and TilleryLakeLady – by now you should know who the talkers and who do the doers are. Just my two cents worth and past experience.
WORTH REPEATING:
291 Heidi Li
Greetings to you all. Stopping by to encourage folks to take a look at these suggestions for what we can do – apart from applaud the failure of the fraudulent candidate the current DNC foisted upon us - to make sure that we rid the DNC of Howard Dean, who is clinging to his post as we all laugh at him and to make sure that the Clinton wing of the Party remains empowered.
Oh, and I’m from NJ and when Springsteen endorsed Obama I realized I would never feel the same about Bruce again. And, right when I returned from Denver I heard first hand from a NJ superdelegate about how Corzine and NJ State Dem chair got up and told all the delegates in the state’s morning meeting – uh, coercion session – that it was in the Party’s best interest for everybody to vote for Obama on the first ballot.
Two posts I respectfully suggest reading: http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/09/want-to-fix-the-broken-democratic-party-steps-you-can-take-now.html
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/time-to-make-sure-the-the-washington-political-crowd-gets-it.html
And now, I’m going to send Pumapac a small contribution.
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(Bolding mine)
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/cnns-crowley-obama-team-wanted-horrific-wall-street-headlines.html
All *61 does is critique McCain. Nothing else. Sure doesn’t care about the people struggling in this country. NOT one concrete plan in his ‘change’ rhetoric.
LADYHAWKKE – this is what Dances with Pumas did last night – those that were workers helped her out – the popcorn eaters went away – thought that was a brilliant strategy.
When I grew up in queens ny and long island you didn’t need a car. Moms drove dads to the trin and kept the car if needed. Buses ran every few minutes, you had long island rail road, sub way and buses,and also two legs for walking, cars were not depended upon. I never realized that not every place had transportation like this untill I left home as a teenager to go to Cal in the day.
#347 mimi1020 on 09.16.08 at 2:23 pm
ACORN ON NOTICE: MCCAIN/PALIN CAMP SAYS:
CHECK IT OUT. ACORN SPOTTED IN MI AND ALREADY THEY HAVE CAUGHT MANY FRAUDULOUS REGISTRATIONS. SWING STATES BEWARE!!! ALL PUMA EYES AND EARS OPEN!
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-acorn-on-notice-mccain-palin-launch-anti-fraud-initiative/
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Thank you for posting this, looks like some of the caucus fraud website links we have sent to the Drudge and repub. websites is working!!!!! I will send this and the caucus website to Repub papers and send it to the DONK and every freaking person I can think of.
Oh happy day!!!!!!! I am also going to send them the link to Obamas site where people can register to vote and they collect personal info.
GROWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
heidi – how great to see you on the blog! regarding your post about the pressure applied to delegates at the convention, you might be interested in taking a look at the video posted on the ca dem party web site from the 3 breakfast meetings. speaker after speaker touting obama, which i consider an outright from of pressure, i mean, the delegates were there to vote as they were assigned. some speakers engaging obama campaign training alinksy style tactics when observing the ca delegation was less than enthused about all the obama talk. amazing they posted it on their site. is suppose they’re feeling glib and overly self-congratulatory. the videos are no longer posted, but i took notes on each one to save for posterity and as part of my own research.
heidi – how great to see you on the blog! regarding your post about the pressure applied to delegates at the convention, you might be interested in taking a look at the video posted on the ca dem party web site from the 3 breakfast meetings. speaker after speaker touting obama, which i consider an outright from of pressure, i mean, the delegates were there to vote as they were assigned. some speakers engaging obama campaign training alinksy style tactics when observing the ca delegation was less than enthused about all the obama talk. amazing they posted it on their site. is suppose they’re feeling glib and overly self-congratulatory. the videos are no longer posted, but i took notes on each one to save for posterity and as part of my own research.
heidi – how great to see you on the blog! regarding your post about the pressure applied to delegates at the convention, you might be interested in taking a look at the video posted on the ca dem party web site from the 3 breakfast meetings. speaker after speaker touting obama, which i consider an outright from of pressure, i mean, the delegates were there to vote as they were assigned. some speakers engaging obama campaign training alinksy style tactics when observing the ca delegation was less than enthused about all the obama talk. amazing they posted it on their site. is suppose they’re feeling glib and overly self-congratulatory. the videos are no longer posted, but i took notes on each one to save for posterity and as part of my own research.
I’ve gotten these emails every day for a week now. Could it be that Obie is getting desperate??
From the Evil Ones Campaign:
As of today there are just seven weeks left until Election Day, November 4th.
And I wanted to let you know that there are still some spots available at Camp Obama this weekend.
The Camp Obama training sessions are a great opportunity to learn all the strategies and techniques that have already made this campaign so successful. They’ll empower you to become a Deputy Field Organizer and a leader in this movement for change.
With the crucial general election battleground of Colorado right next door, Barack supporters here in Utah have an opportunity to make a big impact.
Sign up now to apply for a spot at Camp Obama.
We can’t do this without you.
Thanks,
Suzanne
Suzanne Gelderman
Utah State Director
Obama for America
#330 Fineartsinoil ,
I don,t think Birds were just falling out of the sky,I think they took up residence in that town in California.
oh no
oh no
oh no
help!
#321… I think the problem with having more public transportation in the U.S. is how much rural area we have. We have quite a bit of public transportation in New York… we also do in other areas. In my area of Wisconsin, there is none. We don’t even have a taxi here in our city of 11,000. I think it safe to say that where there IS public transportation available, it is in heavy useage. However, for the majority of the country… us rural people…. we must have our cars. We tried carpooling years ago. Because everybody has their own lists of things “to do” and places they need to go to, that wasn’t feasible most of the time either. In the eye disease support group I own we often hear from people in CA or NY who tell us when we can’t see… well, just take the bus line or the subway. But.. those aren’t available in small cities; and, in many cases, the distances between would make rail transportation not cost effective for those either.
#343 gostrumcat, I live in Silverdale, part of Kitsap County in Washington, and I have yet to see an Obama/Biden bumper sticker. I haven’t seen a McCain/Palin one yet, either. Very odd.
dances – did you copy heidi’s suggestion list for the action center? it would compliment landiPUMA’s list (probably some duplication). my only issue with heidi’s list is about leaving the top blank, but i think i and others on here have already stated the case many times regarding the risk one runs of leaving it blank so i will stop my post here!
#352 NO. I will call him again, see what I call get out of him.
284 Grizzly
I’s say Mortimer Snerd would be about right.
#292 Michelle… if you want to go at the obots, try the McCain blog site. There are usually quite a few of them hanging around there. They even sometimes take our ID’s and change one letter of it and then post obscene stuff (no lie) to make us think our friends are being obscene with us! You’re more than welcome to roll up your sleeves and join in the fray there!
MORE ON THE “ROLL CALL”:
ANONYMOUS: “Ultimately, the roll call vote was a sham and did not even come close to reflecting Senator Clinton’s historic achievement. As of this writing, all of what went on behind the scenes has yet to come to light. From what we know thus far, it is apparent the vote was rigged. Unlike Jesse Jackson’s historic campaign for the Democratic nominee in 1984 when his name was placed in nomination and his 465 ½ delegate votes were accurately recorded for the history books, Senator Clinton’s delegate votes ultimately did not reflect the will of the voters. As a result, the fact that she won more votes and primaries than any candidate in history will forever remain obliterated from the official record.”
Karen Murphy, Alegre’s Corner: “Too many have worked too hard for too long to have this historic vote shoved under the rug like this!”
Let the record show that Senator Clinton led in the popular vote, and that there was only a separation of 47 pledged delegates, even with all the caucus fraud and manipulation.
Democratic Convention
Presidential Nominating Process
Automatic selection of unpledged delegates: Saturday 1 March 2008
Rules and Bylaws Committee Meeting: Saturday 31 May 2008
45th Democratic National Convention: Monday 25 August – Thursday 28 August 2008 Democrats
Candidate Popular
Vote Delegate Votes
Hard Total Floor Vote
Clinton, Hillary Rodham 17,857,446 48.04% 1,730.5 39.17% 341.5 7.73%
Obama, Barack Hussein 17,584,649 47.31% 1,747.5 39.55% 1,549.5 35.07%
Edwards, John Reid 994,022 2.67% 32.0 0.72%
Uncommitted 293,075 0.79% 908.0 20.55%
Richardson, William B. “Bill”, III 104,051 0.28%
Kucinich, Dennis J. 99,962 0.27%
Biden, Joseph Robinette “Joe”, Jr. 79,754 0.21%
Gravel, Mike 35,303 0.09%
Dodd, Christopher J. “Chris” 34,663 0.09%
No Preference 31,255 0.08%
Blank, Void, Scattering 28,698 0.08%
(others) 25,871 0.07%
Uninstructed 861 0.00%
Scattering 468 0.00%
Undecided 42 0.00%
(available)
(not voting) 2,527.0 57.20%
Total 37,170,120 100.00% 4,418.0 100.00% 4,418.0 100.00%
4,418 total delegate votes – 2,316 district / 794 at large; 456 Pledged PLEOs; 771 Unpledged PLEOs; 81 Unpledged add-ons
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml
Votes:
Clinton: 17,857,446
Obama: 17,584,649
Pledged delegates
Obama: 1,747
Clinton: 1,730
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 2 PM: Clinton releases her Delegates (approx. 1920)
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 after 4 PM: Provisional Tally
Obama: 1,549 Clinton: 342
Wednesday, September 3, 2008: Final Tally: (http://articles.latimes.com/2008/09/04/news/na-trailunity4)
Obama: 3,188.5 Clinton: 1,010.5
Sorry if this has been posted up above before – did not see it :
Election 2008
Gallup Daily: Presidential Contest Remains a Dead Heat
McCain 47%, Obama 46%
September 16, 2008The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows the presidential race essentially tied, with John McCain holding just a slight one-point advantage over Barack Obama, 47% to 46%. The candidates have been in a statistical dead heat for each of the last five days
#367 I know whatcha mean. When the DNC sent me a bumper sticker, I was expecting it to be Obama/Biden. Its says Vote Democrat.
297 Heidi
Love that video.
Makes me want to cry in my V-8.
373 and other poll posts
mc cain’s lead has been drifting steadily downward post convention bump. don’t be surprised if you see obama overtake him as was the baseline before either convenion, especially in light of recent economic issues and mc cain’s less-than-articulated platform when it comes to addressing the economy. not that i’m here to promote mc cain, cause i’m not. just don’t think there’s reason to feel confident about how any of this will turn out. just gotta stay focused and do what we can.
ps needless to say, i’m not here to promote obama, either. (sorry for not stating the obvious is my prior post)
from ricki lieberman today:
DELEGATE ACCOUNTABILITY: Please contact your state’s Democratic Party chair. The DNC’s Alice Germond says that each state chair now has the list of how each delegate voted in Denver. Once you have the sheets, you can compare them with the pledged lists (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml, scroll down to the bottom and click on Democratic Pledged and Unpledged Summary) to identify HRC pledged delegates who voted for BO, and which Super Delegates determined that BO was the most electable Democrat. Another way to view the material is at http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D-Alloc.phtml to find the lists of delegates by state who were pledged to Clinton and to Obama along with a chart which shows the total numbers originally pledged and the actual vote in Denver.
It will be no surprise to anyone that the DNC is making it as difficult as possible to get the lists of the votes, but we must push back on this very anti-democratic withholding of public information. So much for transparency.
We have the tally sheets for Oregon and New Mexico, so it can be done! Please forward to me other states so that we can distribute the comparisons for delegate accountability.
I was just thinking today: I wonder what Obama will do when he loses this election. Do you think he will stay in the senate, go back to Kenya, or crawl under a rock and hide for a while? He will probably give a big speech about how racist we all are before he does anything else.
funny how we – pumapac – an others in the jsnd arena are all on the same page – now if we could only do this work once!
MURPHY MAMA MARYLAND
is there some we we can work on some items as one group – the work would get done in a more timely manner as there would many more doing less. i hate to see all of us duplicating efforts.
anna..
i agree
anna7000… dick morris thinks an economic crisis will make voters less willing to take a chance on an unknown candidate and that it could make people more cautious and conservative so that they would prefer someone in office who is more trusted and a known quantity
Heidi Li, along with Puma PAC, suggests leaving the top of teh ticket blank:
From Heidi Li’s blog:
“Feel free to abstain from voting the top of the Democratic ticket. Conscientious withholding of one’s vote is not copping out. Nobody should vote for a candidate they do not trust. If you don’t trust either major party candidate, don’t vote for either of them. Leave the Presidential line blank. ”
I still can’t seem to come to terms with this suggestion,
because, I think,
1) leaving the top of one’s ballot leaves it open to a range of cheating / fraudulent possibilities, and
2) No one seems to have researched and reported how individual states handle ballots with the top left blank.
I’m not going to tell anyone how to cast their vote, god knows we’ve heard enough rantings on that subject, but, I will ask people to consider the two points above, and if you do decide to leave the top of the ballot blank, please check iwth you state to see how they handle such ballots. Thanks (I feel better now).
PS The only thing I think of when I see our orange ribbon is: A ribbon is not a BO.
blue blue gal – thanks for the post and sharing ricki’s e-mail. a word of caution to those digging into the counts: make sure you know whether the numbers you’re looking at are for pledged delegates only, or if the number is a combined number for pledged AND supers. for me, it’s the pledged counts that matter since those are the delegates morally bound to vote for the candiate they were assigned to vote for based on how voters voted. supers have always been free to vote how they wanted, and as we all know, they’re a whole other ball of wax.
ok dances, you’ve inspired me to re-post this!
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In order to make sure you understand the voting rules and regulations of your state and in order to make sure we do not allow any window of opportunity to give Obama a single vote not cast for him, voters are encouraged to contact their Secretary of State’s office to educate themselves about the voting parameters in their state. For those who plan to vote for John McCain, this will not be an issue. However, for those still unsure about their strategy, education about how your ballot will be treated is crucial.
If, when you call, the person you speak with sounds unsure about any of their answers, or prefaces their answer with “I think….” or “I’m pretty sure….”, insist that you speak with someone in the office who can answer you question(s) definitively.
Here is a template to use when making your call. To find the phone number for the Secretary of State’s office, check the blue pages in the front of your phone book or call information.
Note: The first two questions pertain to leaving the top of the ticket blank, however, in my opinion, leaving the top of the ticket blank is not advised since it will leave your ballot vulnerable to being tampered with. Therefore, likely best to have a voting strategy that leaves no areas blank.
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SoS Phone:
SoS Web Address:
Person I spoke with:
Date and Time:
If I vote for everything except President and leave the President slot empty, will it be counted toward the candidate of the party of which I am a member anyway?
If I am not a member of either major party, how would leaving the President slot blank be counted?
If I write in a name in the President slot that is permitted under (your state) law, will it be counted toward the person who I write it?
If I write in a name in the President slot that is NOT permitted under (your state) law, will it be counted anyway, be ignore, or will it go toward another Presidential candidate? If the latter, how is that determined?
What is the deadline to find out about which candidates, if any, are available to be legitimately written in? How do I find out who they are?
Is there any other scenario other than what I’ve described whereby if I don’t vote for one of the Presidential candidates on the ticket, my vote may still be counted toward one of them in some way? If so, please describe.
If I don’t vote for President, but vote for down ticket candidates, is it possible for my ballot to be discounted because it wasn’t complete?
368 Anna7000
No, I copied the links and will post in the AC
Well, it turns out that my congressman (Jay Inslee, Democrat) is up for reelection this year. I just emailed him with this message:
“Dear Mr. Inslee, to help me make up mind as to how I will vote in the down-ticket this year, could you please tell me whether you are supporting Barrack Obama for president? My vote will be made purely on this issue alone.”
Jay Inslee represents the Bangor Submarine Base and the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard area. Inslee keeps getting reelected because he is one of the pro-military voices in the democratic party. I’ve voted for him. In fact, I’ll vote for him again this time if he says he’s not supporting Obama. If he supports Obama or does not return my email, then I’ll vote for the republican whoever it is.
mccain better get his act together on the economy..hes already made a few goofs and the obama campaign has jumped on it ..
that could be mccains achilles heel the economy..
his advisors better jump on that pronto
Godzilla – Jay Iinslee endorsed HRC early on in the primaries – unless he drank the koolaide – he was a good guy.
Thanks so much for all the support Pumas!
Some days I feel like I should always carry a copy of the Catcher in the Rye. LOL
But you all make it worth it!
384 Anna7000
thanks for the good advice re pledged vs pledged and supers. i would have forgotten by the time i get my states’ list – if and when – lol lol
godzilla
i’d say, prepare yourself for learning that mr. inslee supports obama. for one, his platform is very much in line with obama’s. second, inslee’s a dem and i’m assuming that it’s “party first”. what’s he gonna say, that he supports mc cain? or a third party? anyway, i loved your letter and hope you’ll do the second part of your little prowl once you have your response, which will be to inform mr. inslee that he does not have your vote due to his support of obama. (that’s if you get a straight answer from him at all.) keep us posted!
#383 DancesWithPumas You are so right! Leaving the top “blank” if the race is close will be “decided” by those reviewing the ballots.
Remember Florida!?!?! You may have gotten the short version on national news but our news showed various “local” SOE, that came to the conclusion that if someone voted Dem. down – it must be Dem. Same for Rep. The sad ones where were people mixed their vote – those were “placed” to the side for later review. Don’t know if they were ever counted!
I will never leave the top blank or write-in someone that did not agree to be put on the ballot. I hope there are no PUMAS that would want their vote not counted.
I for one will vote…
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!
godzilla’s post reminds me – at this point, it’s probably safe to assume that any and all down ticket dems support obama. that’s the nature of being part of a political party. but i think there are dems and there are dems. seems like our first priority is to oust those who actively took part in this election sham. so, godzilla, i wouldn’t necessarily just vote for a repbulican who you know nothing about just because inslee (presumably) supports bo. if we all took that approach, i think we’d all be voting for republicans. i think that’s taking things too far, no? we’re trying to clean up the party, not all become a bunch of republicans.
Im sorry I have been off here working, are we doing a media prowl on the Obama violation of the Logan act or anything?
I am working on a page on the site for it now.
364 tillerylakelady
I was wondering what he was talking about. Glad to hear the birds are not falling and BO is! Ha!ha! Once he cannot get into the White House, America will have to be on extra Alert because of his previous statements Particularly the comment From Audacity of Hope:
‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political
winds shift in an ugly direction.’
anna7000..
“seems like our first priority is to oust those who actively took part in this election sham. ”
…that could be quite subjective..wouldn’t that just open up a pandoras box of recriminations and deepen divisions?
#383 DancesWithPuma- Leaving the top of the ticket blank:
I totally agree- PLEASE THINK TWICE if you are considering leaving the top of the ticket blank.
We just had a mayoral election in Scottsdale, which is contested and the ballots that did not vote for mayor were in question- some advocating for interpretation -
I think it is too risky to allow some bone head to interpret how you meant to vote. Look at Florida. Look at the caucuses here. Too much at stake.
I have said it many times here, sorry if you are sick of my mantra- I am a democrat voting Republican first time in my life- I will not waste my vote and I want it to count against BO as much as possible- therefore McCain gets it.
#349 middle age female
Sure did and I ate too darned much but it sure was good.
PUMAS:
I think I stumbled onto something that has slipped under the radar. Recall the attacks on Sarah Palin regarding her now debunked support of the Alaskan Independence Party? Well, I recalled this morning that there was a similar and stronger movement in the State of Hawaii. I wondered where that stood now, and what Obama’s position was on Hawaiian independence.
What an eye opener. The movement in Hawaii is still very much alive:
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?title=Native+Hawaiians+Seek+Self-governing+Body
Not only that, but there is a bill pending before Congress that is supported by both Obama and Biden:
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17315510/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news
“Hawaii’s delegates at the Democratic National Convention said they are grateful for the Democratic Party and Sen. Barack Obama’s support of the Native Hawaiian Recognition Bill.”
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So just what is “The Hawaiian Recognition Bill”?
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/27/news/story10.html
“This year, Democrats said: “We support the efforts for self-determination and sovereignty of native Hawaiians, consistent with principles enumerated in the Apology Resolution and the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act.”..
With this and Barack Obama going to be president and Senator (Daniel) Inouye in an extremely important position, Democrats are stepping forward and doing what is right,” Hanabusa said…
If he becomes president, Barack Obama is expected to sign the bill if it passes Congress.”
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Does this pass the smell test?
http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200508190812.asp
“It is spectacularly unconstitutional. The 15th Amendment forbids racial restrictions on voting. The Akaka bill is wholly dependent on such restrictions. The Supreme Court in 2000 struck down an arrangement that permitted only Native Hawaiians to vote for board members of a state agency providing services to Native Hawaiians. The Akaka scheme takes the unconstitutional principle from that arrangement and makes it the basis for a new government…
The conceit of the bill is that Native Hawaiians will merely get the same status as American Indian tribes, which exist as sovereign, extraconstitutional governments. But such tribal governments weren’t created by congressional legislation. They already existed when territory around them was incorporated into the U.S. Congress can recognize new tribes, but they have to meet standards, including existing as a distinct community and exercising sovereignty. Native Hawaiians do neither.”
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007117
“The Senate is poised to sanction the creation of a racially exclusive government by and for Native Hawaiians who satisfy a blood test. The new race-based sovereign that would be summoned into being by the so-called Akaka Bill would operate outside the U.S. Constitution and the nation’s most cherished civil rights statutes. Indeed, the champions of the proposed legislation boast that the new Native Hawaiian entity could secede from the Union like the Confederacy, but without the necessity of shelling Fort Sumter.”
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So, Sarah Palin gets attacked on a rumor that turns out to be untrue. But Obama and Biden both support the Hawaiian Independence movement and the creation of a race based government in Hawaii that will cause de facto discrimination against non native Hawaiians there?
Holy S—!!!!
Maybe it’s just me, but I think this is a BIG deal. What’s next, Hispanic rule in the Southwestern US? Sharia law in Dearborn? The Constitution is good for the rest of us rabble but not for native Hawaiians? Talk about a divide and conquer strategy. Let’s trash the Constitution of the US in favor of racist enclaves.
Topic: Today’s prowl
Has everybody been doing their prowl? Here’s what I wrote to Howard:
Dear Mr. Dean,
I’m a lifelong Democrat and a former precinct worker and there is no way I will vote for Barack Obama for president, Howard I want to tell you just a few reasons why I do not think he can win the election for the Democratic Party:
* his REZKO ties & campaign corruption will be used against our party in a big way by the GOP any day now
* he turned too many women voters off by running a sexist campaign
* his racist pastor(s) were a turnoff to mainstream American voters and centrist Democrats.
* his flip-flopping & arguing with Palin made him seem un-Presidential
* he voted for FISA & lost the confidence of too many Democrats.
* Most importantly, he engaged in Caucus Fraud to narrowly steal the nomination from the more qualified candidate, Hillary Clinton. To all of the women & men members in PUMA, this is a grevious sin that needs to be remedied by our Party Leaders.
Mr. Dean, too many Democrats are not going to vote for Barack Obama for president. We will not support a “Unity Ticket” with Hillary Clinton as the vice-president. We will not donate one thin dime to the DNC or any of its affiliate organizations until they wake up, listen to the voices of the voters in ALL 50 states, and start distancing themselves from this disastrous nominee.
Please, re-think the direction of our ticket before it’s too late.
Sincerely,
XXX – Lane County Oregon – PUMA Democrat
osaka – as for the first part of your response, i’d say ‘yes” and “no”. yes, because on the face of it your point is well taken. no, because we do have some hard facts to guide us, i.e. superdelegates, those who actively engaged in promoting obama even while their district or their state went heavily for clinton, etc. as for the second half of your response, i’m not sure i understand it. what do you mean?
#392 Anna7000, I don’t even know what a Prowl is!
Today’s Prowl
Hey I didn’t realize Murphy’s post was a repeat so I sent Dean an email.
Hey everyone, why don’t you all joine me in reminding Howard of the errors of his ways??!!!
It takes about 3 minutes tops and it feels soo goood!!
grizzly… california..its next governor will be a hispanic..antonio villaraigosa mayor of LA..he was a big time supporter of hillary ..hillary just loves this man..hope he gets in!!
BillieJo
Update on what looks to be a HUNT for info.
Called NV’s Democratic Party asked for the info and was told she had no idea and didn’t know how I could find out, so I asked to speak with Sam Leiberman, NV’s chair. Was given another number and told he (Sam) doesn’t go to that office anymore. So, I called this new number that turned out to be BO’s NV HQ. WTF!! Spoke with the receptionist that put me on hold to transfer me to him. She came back asking what it was about, then put me on hold again. She then came back on the line giving me a number to get ahold of him. It’s the same number I called the first time.
?????
Now I’m really on a mission!!! And pissed!
FYI, BO will be in Vegas tomorrow. Doors open at 2:30 and it starts at 5pm. 850 Las Vegas Blvd.
Gonna see if I can make it down tomorrow. Anyone gonna be close so we can make a scene?
Anyway, gonna eat lunch and then I’ll make some more calls, try to figure this out.
#395 CARACAL – Ladyhawkke has been begging for people to do it but to no avail – I think maybe a couple of us have responded to her request – personally think its important – but hey what do I know – I only ran a campaign just once – not enough experience for me.
godzilla – sorry. yikes. i hate jargon speak and now i’m doing it. a lot of us have come to use the term “prowl” just to refer to any actions we take, individually or collectively. it’s because murphy refers to her actions that she sends to everyone as “prowls”, based on our puma/cat identity. no big deal. just means taking action, something you do that’s politically-related.
Springsteen
Also I wanted to say here is the song Obama can have Bruce sing to him the next time he’s in New Jersey:
“I go to put my arm around you
And you give me a look like I’m way out of bounds
Well you let out one of your bored sighs
Well lately when I look into your eyes
I’m goin’ down, down, down, down,
I’m going down, down, down, down,
I’m going down, down….”
#367 GODZILLA
I love your name! That is odd because I would expect Kitsap to be very politically opinionated. Lots of smart, hard working folks there. It could be that some usual blues are a little uncomfortable with going red all of a sudden. For some of us Country first Party second is a new idea. That sounds so horrible, doesn’t it? I have to say I never considered it so deeply as right now.
Murphy I hope you are laughing, I did my prowl like a good PUMA & even cc’d mamapuma.
I’m ROTFLMAO, hey it’s another great day to be a PUMA!! Wish I was there to see Howard’s face when he reads my email…sometimes mistakes happen for a reason.
#222 AsianforHillary- thank you for that video. Yes, that was the lady I saw on Hannity last night, only here she gave more detail. I still think (personally) that it would be nice to know who made the ad with her in it that Hannity showed a blip of on his show, and what state it’s running in. I wish that could be shown in every state. I think (personally) that Obama voting against that “born alive protection act” in IL (which MOST dems in the nation, even the most liberal, supported) was despicable. This, I think, would be a powerful ad to run. Thank you again.
Bobram thanks I will scroll up and find ladyhawkes post. I think it’s extremely important. I am having a hard time finding any reporting on it from any site that is not NoBama or where the author can not be discredited.
I hope everyone does a prowl for it.
400 Grizzly
How much more proof is needed to show that the democratic party is insane? I’ll include the six republicans who have signed on.
Finally, I’m registered thanks to my teenage daughter who calls herself a PUMA too. I joined PUMA in June and have been lurking, doing prowls, and posting on other blogs. I live in Norwich, CT. I’m so happy to see others on here from CT. I hope we can work together to turn this state around. Dodd is another one I will never vote for again I feel like I’m in BO land and like others mentioned, I’m very hesitant to put up a McCain/Palin sign or wear a button. I worked on Hillary’s campaign in Providence and Philadelphia (my hometown, yes, I’m a small-town, bitter middle-aged woman who’s mad as heck at the Democratic Party.) I switched to Independent during the summer and always voted country and candidate before party. I met some of his goons during visibility shifts and they were condescending and nasty from the Raging Grannies in Providence to the starry-eyed college students. In honor of my parents who served in WW2 and my 3 cousins who are Vietnam vets, No Way No How NoBama. He is dangerous.
380 Blue Blue Gal
funny how we – pumapac – an others in the jsnd arena are all on the same page – now if we could only do this work once!
MURPHY MAMA MARYLAND
is there some we we can work on some items as one group – the work would get done in a more timely manner as there would many more doing less. i hate to see all of us duplicating efforts.
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I know people are supportive of more websites, and I understand their points of view, i.e. filling in gaps by specializing; more variety in tone and tenor; more variety in approaches to actions, etc.. I’m just not one of them.
I prefer consolidation (which equates to less work for more people), vs fragmentation, duplication, and dillution of effort. I like knowing with whom I am interacting, what strengths they contribute, in what ways they can be relied upon, and the degree of trust I am willing to allot, etc.
This is just my personal preference. I am powerless over what anyone does (thank goodness, because my vision is often myopic).
If there is any one thing that I really don’t like about other websites, it is when they chose to deposit their conflicts and dramas and negative feedback in this blog. I consider it an inappropriate disruption to, and distraction from the flow and intent of this blog.
My .14 cents worth (adjusted for inflation) :::shrug:::
#184 prplvette85
Yo! You talkin ta me? Or what?
This commercial was done by a local kid in the Walnut Valley at the eastern edge of Los Angeles County.
You have to watch the whole thing.
When he finishes talking and walks away, you get a sense of how this could
be the commercial of the campaign season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
Here is the PROWL regarding Obama’s violation of the Logan Act. I’ve already done it. All Pumas here should send it out, and MURPHY, this is all done, all you have to do is send it by e-mail all Pumas.
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BY FAX: (202) 224 – 7416.
Senate Ethics Committee
Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Room 220
Washington DC 20510
Re: Senator Obama’s violation of THE LOGAN ACT*
Dear Senate Ethics Committee:
I am again writing to ask you to conduct an investigation into Senator Barak Obama for possible violations of the Logan Act.
(1) During his trip to the Middle East, as well as conduct unbecoming a United States Senator for his political campaigning in foreign countries.
If Obama’s trip to Israel was official fact-finding and not campaigning, why do Obama supporters there have large official Obama campaign banners up? Please see the following link showing Obama supporters with campaign signs written in Hebrew.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-campaigned-at-western-wall
(2) McCain Responds to Obama’s Reported Undermining of the Commander-In-Chief During Wartime [Andy McCarthy]
The McCain Campaign has issued a statement responding to the report from Amer Taheri (see today’s web briefing) that Sen. Obama secretly negotiated with the Iraqi government regarding U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. McCain spokesman Randy Scheunemann stated as follows:
“At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq’s Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama’s judgment and it demands an explanation. “
I have not received a response to my previous fax and ask that you please investigate this matter and respond to me.
Thank You, (Name, Address)
*Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects
This is what Lady Hawke put out earlier if anyone hasn’t done it. I will also be contacting all of my media contacts to try and get some action on this. Please help if you can.
#408 Anna7000, okay. I’ll keep an eye out for prowl posts.
Bluejay , Lady Hawke and DanceswithPumas your comments about the The Arctic NATIONAL Wildlife Refuge are well said!
http://resourcescommittee.house.gov/images/stories/Documents/truth_about_americas_energy.pdf
Hey guys, have you heard that the lawsuit Philip Berg has going against BO and DNC is moving along? He served papers to BO,DNC and FEC on 9/4/08. Now he has asked for an expideted trial w/I believe he has gotten since they have been told they have until 9/30/08 to produce papers on everything Bo has ever written in college, his vault Birth Certificate, Passport, selective service registration and on and on . Dean must submit all paperwork showing all vetting on BO done before allowing him to run for office.
Go to obamacrimes.com and read all legal documents submitted and served. On the right side of page is unbelievable info that has been proven against BO. He is not a citizen! He was born in Kenya! GOP has copy of Kenya B.C. and much more. Read copy of his school record in Kenya saying he is Indo citizen and Muslim religion. He also has 3 different birthdates!
obamacrimes.com and spread the word
Also keep up the great work everyone. The people still rule.
In God We Trust and God Bless America
Dances
I agree. and I am guilty.
I got mad one day that someone sent me an email saying they would not use the web site I am making since they didn’t like the way it was laid out. I responded via email, but then I also came here to vent. (though I did not name names).
I shouldn’t have done that….
Obama knows nothing about the economy, all he knows is to wave money pass your nose in a falling ecomony. I can’t afford Obama economics. Millions to groups like ACORN, and crooks like Rezko. Giving contracts to contractors that never finish the jobs. Sending money to faith bace group’s like Trinity Church ( Rev Wright). Michelle Obama non profit group has received 1 million already. Obama wants to take my money and line the pockets of his friends and racist groups.
No Obama
380 – yes!
415 – yes!
(hopefully, despite two yes’s, this’ll only post once!)
jrc… im really rooting phillip berg on with his lawsuit.. has the judge granted him his petition for discovery yet??
In the story about the “emergency meeting” with the biggest of Obama’s supporters, did you all notice that his problems are being specifically attributed to “aging white women.”
Hmmm, aging as in “unattractive”, “”bitter”, “over-the-hill”? As in “invisible”? As in “not powerful”? Not very smart. We live a long time and we vote. Not smart at all.
#383 Dances,
I share your concern. Guess I don’t have much trust in this election process and I wonder why?..anyway, thank you for your post. Placing McCain/Palin on top will definately be counted and as a long ago girl scout leader, I don’t leave any important decision to “chance”. Just make sure you cover all bases.
Sorry,
I forgot to also ask if you all noticed that Michelle was missing from ground zero on 911? The news media said she was home with the kids since it was the first week of school. Well again it was a LIE. Follow this link to see where she really was that morning.
While our thoughts were with those we lost on 911 Michelle was campaigning for black votes! That is where her priorities lye. Please read the following. http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/13/michelle-obamas-priorities/
Have a great day.
watching fox~ i believe I just heard them say Hillary on in a few minutes in studio B~ showed a shot of her and Chelsea
Topic: PROWLS
Hey Pumassssss,
I am worried if Howard Dean only gets one PUMA email today maybe he thinks we are history, oh noooo…, we simply cannot let that happen! Oh and we need to give Grizzly a lesson in hunting & prowling.
Puma’s c’mon up to bat aka Springsteen’s Glory Days, & send Howard a little email about your favorite election fauxpaus.
Howard’s email addy: howarddean@dnc.org
Be sure & tell him you’re a PUMA!
#421jrc… last I heard the judge hadn’t signed the papers yet. Do you know if they are signed now? Is this really and truly the last step and that now the papers are being served requiring the information to be turned over? If so… HIP HIP HOOORAY….
#410 gostrumcat, it is definitely strange here in Kitsap County. From outward appearances you wouldn’t even know that an election was impending. I’ve lived here since 1990 when my boat (that’s a submarine for you land lubbers
pulled into Bangor. I have never seen anything like this, with the lack of stickers. NOT ONE BUMPER STICKER. Either party.
fox is asking if Hillary is able to bring the sisterhood of the traveling pantsuit’s home to the dem party~
HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
no Hill yet~
just cuts of tape with Hillary with Diane Sawyer~
Why Obama won’t win Montana
One word: guns.
#432 Godzilla
I noticed lack of bumper stickers too, my car is well decorated and sends a message. Other years cars are usaly voiceing there owners opinion by now.
I’ve recently noticed that , if you are out in the front yard chainsawing limbs and trees after a hurricane , people will drive by and everyone honks and waves . Now – does that mean they are saying , ‘ I feel your pain .” or are they saying , ” I have to do the same thing ” or maybe , ” You’re doing a good job . ” or perhaps they are just saying ,” Hey , you’ve got a chinsaw in your hands and you’re naked ! ” … I guess we’ll never know …
#420 OnlyHill
Hey . . . there you are. I did send my address to Murphy as you requested, but I didn’t hear from you.
Did you ever get it??
Redtumble, when I watch that video and then think about Barry Obama/Soetoro (whatever the hell his name is) not bothering to put his hand on over his heart for our national athem , I get a bit angry. Thanks for sharing the clip.
lets just hope the “pantsuit” wont go over to the other side
Well last night, in a fit of patriotic ferver, I found my county’s Republican Party website and got on their mailing list. Almost checked the volunteer box but decided to wait until I find out more, because the check boxes didn’t have schedule information or anything concrete, just vague tasks like phone banks, going around with candidates, monitoring the polls, etc.
Texas!!!!! Power?????!!!!
JOHN – are you going to be hanging out here for at least two minutes – I know people have been sending you information the last three days and you seem to pop on and off and never get it – its about Florida TV stations, Ohio and Penna – you had mentioned before you wanted to do something – do you still want them or one in particular – I will research and post for you if you stay awhile for it.
The papers were served on 9/04/08. As I said you can see for yourself on his website. I would hate to mislead anyone. The proof he has is astounding. My son spoke to Philip personally over a week ago by phone and he assured him that everything on his site is absolutely true and his proof is absolute and the suit is moving forward. He also told him he would help us also if we want with a suit against DNC for voter fraud.
obamacrimes.com
#406 NVPuma
BillieJo
Update on what looks to be a HUNT for info.
Called NV’s Democratic Party asked for the info and was told she had no idea and didn’t know how I could find out, so I asked to speak with Sam Leiberman, NV’s chair. Was given another number and told he (Sam) doesn’t go to that office anymore. So, I called this new number that turned out to be BO’s NV HQ. WTF!! Spoke with the receptionist that put me on hold to transfer me to him. She came back asking what it was about, then put me on hold again. She then came back on the line giving me a number to get ahold of him. It’s the same number I called the first time.
?????
Now I’m really on a mission!!! And pissed!
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That makes three of us. I took several links and wrote this letter. Let me know what you think……..please.
Please let me know of typos or funky stuff.
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Dear News Reporters, Clinton Delegates and the DNC,
Although I am a life long Democrat, I was shocked at the corruption in the primary election for the next President of the United States.
The extensive caucus fraud in the Democratic Primary Election, which is documented at this site: http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/ is just one of several reasons Senator Obama is not winning this election in the poles. Millions of us are aware of what happened during the primary and will not support the corruption in the DNC and the Democratic Party this year.
Another problem that split the Democratic Party in the Primaries is the bulling by the Obama Campaign to force the Clinton Democrats to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention instead of those delegates representing 18 million voters in the primary, to show a false since of Unity at the convention. Voters have tried their best to get those Clinton Delegates to come forward and let the public know what happened, but most are too afraid of their political futures to do so. We have taken off their names to protect their identity, but here are a few to prove my point:
ON THE “ROLL CALL”:
ANONYMOUS: “Ultimately, the roll call vote was a sham and did not even come close to reflecting Senator Clinton’s historic achievement. As of this writing, all of what went on behind the scenes has yet to come to light. From what we know thus far, it is apparent the vote was rigged. Unlike Jesse Jackson’s historic campaign for the Democratic nominee in 1984 when his name was placed in nomination and his 465 ½ delegate votes were accurately recorded for the history books, Senator Clinton’s delegate votes ultimately did not reflect the will of the voters. As a result, the fact that she won more votes and primaries than any candidate in history will forever remain obliterated from the official record.”
(My comment: To this day, the DNC has not published the official voting at the ‘Roll Call’ in the Denver Convention, along with the names of the delegates that cast those votes. The public is scrambling to find out if their vote was represented at the Convention by Clinton Delegates. Since voters are already weary that their vote was not represented, not making this information public gives little credibility to the DNC in this election so far.)
-CALIFORNIA: xxxxx xxxx: “This is such a pile of dung. I WAS a Hillary delegate from California and that’s not at all what happened. Hillary supporters flipped to Obama and we passed so as not to embarrass Hillary. Xxxx xxxx made a fool of herself in order to get publicity for herself and lost most of us in the process, her stunt was embarrassing and out of place. Ray Panko was NOT a delegate and had no knowledge of the real goings on if he even does exist. I have my doubts about many of your so-called respondents. NOT ONE DELEGATE that I spoke to (and I spoke to a LOT of Hillary delegates) was disillusioned after the amazing week so stop spreading these falsehoods.”
-xx: xxxx xxxxx was handing out the petitions to get a vote on the floor and Chris Lavery, who I had a run in with when volunteering for Hillary months earlier, came over to me and intimidated me by saying, “You realize you are an At-Large delegate for Hillary and Hillary does not want people to sign this. This would be an embarrassment to Hillary.” Later, in a message to my facebook account, Chris told me “he would remember what I had done” basically telling me I would never get an at-large delegate slot again for Hillary. I told him I could care less because politics was not my life and I was there to represent the public and to stand up for the constitution.”
-COLORADO: xxxx: “A request for Unity has no place in a political party until after the roll call vote is over and the candidate has been selected. The Democratic Party essentially committed suicide on August 27, 2008, with that joke of a roll call vote, thereby reaffirming yet again that Barack Obama was selected, not elected. The roll call vote essentially laughed at democracy. In the name of “Unity,” votes were taken wholesale from Hillary supporters and given to Obama, thereby creating more division. Authentic votes no longer matter just like in any autocratic country. Individual liberty and free speech are under severe attack. Obama cannot be vetted or criticized in any way, or you are a racist. Police force and Obama thugs now attempt to control behavior. You will support Obama or you will pay dearly. This is the message from the Denver Convention to those of us who have been watching from home. This message is loud and clear.”
The list goes on with the Clinton delegates that were bullied into giving their vote representing the public vote- to Barack Obama at the convention. Millions of voters know this happened and are not going to support the inexperienced and wrongly selected candidate and the corrupt practices of the DNC. I am glad to see that the Republican’s are aware of the voting fraud and are going to watch for this in the General Election. See article below that someone posted about the Republican’s way to combat this potential election fraud.
Many of you may want to see the link below to Obama’s website where voters are able to register to vote and their personal information is kept by the Obama Campaign: http://www.voteforchange.com/index_obama.php?source=091008emailR#
“The Honest and Open Election Committee”
http://www.johnmccain.com/honest/
This is a brilliant move by the McCain campaign. It signals to Obama that the Republicans know all about the caucus fraud, ACORN’s mischievous voter registration practices, and Obama’s habit of cheating to win elections. (See our Sunday article, ACORN Fraud Epidemic Hits Michigan: ALERT, for a bit of background).
By going on the offensive publicly, by inviting the Obama campaign to join their dialogue aimed at pre-empting fraud and other ballot irregularities, the McCain campaign comes across as the more ethical and professional organization, which I have no doubt that it is. And it has once again out-smarted Team Obama. Note that this is a bi-partisan committee, which also demonstrates McCain’s ability to forge teams which transcend party politics.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-acorn-on-notice-mccain-palin-launch-anti-fraud-initiative/
Thank you for your time in researching this important issue.
It is a shame for voters to realize they can be scammed by their own party, and wonder if Democracy is really lost forever.
Yes, I am a PUMA and millions of us will not go away and will keep fighting to make the Democratic Party represent the voters, the party and policies we have supported all of our lives.
California Democrat
Carrie – yes – phone is charging
Hey , that was a funny post though – I know you laughed 
jrc…are you saying you dont know if the judge has granted berg discovery?
I thought that the major reason to support offshore, Alaskan, ND, and other national drilling was to decrease our dependecy on foreign oil, not necessarily to reduce cost. When you factor in the costs of the wars to protect our foreign oil interests, it is mighty expensive on so many fronts.
I also believe that we should do everything feasible to encourage development of alternative sources and in conservation.
LOL All I could think of was the Bees!
ACORN will just turn it around and accuse their detractors of racism and keeping down minority voter registration.. they are experts at that..
best way to beat obama is to get out the vote for mccain palin..make sure they win by a comfortable margin
I sent an e-mail to all media with the Berg Court papers attached asking:
Will anyone choose to verify and report on this subject for the people?
Just to keep attention on it…
415 DancesWithPumas
dances, both we and ricki are doing the exact same (looks that way to me, anyway) action. getting the roll calls, includng secret breakfast info, from each chair of our respective states’ dem party. i was hoping that there could be some coalition so our activities, where agreeable, so there could be a cooperative effort.
TexasTigress
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
woo hoo
so glad to see you back
do you need grizzly and me to come down – he offered me shotgun!!!!
Here is my e-mail to Howie:
Chairman Dean,
I was a little startled yesterday to find your request for a donation in my mailbox.
I suppose you forgot (or am hoping that I have) but I not only changed my registration to Independent after the May 31st debacle, I have requested to be removed from your e-mail and snail mail list.
I will not support the candidate you and your cronies “selected” for us.
And just to insure an Obama defeat this November, I have crossed party lines and am working for and donating to the RNC.
I only wish you and Nancy and Harry and the Obama group had been as concerned about your core of Democratic voters as the Republicans have proven to be. And they have made a concerted effort to pull in disenfranchised voters.
I have decided to go where my vote is valued.
I hope to one day return to the Democratic party. The sooner you and your pals drop out, the sooner my return,
Sue Freeman
PUMA democrat
Registered Independent (hoping to turn Blue in the near future)
453 Blue Blue Gal – YEEEEE HAWWWW ! I am just so freakin happy right now – you can’t even imagine !!!
#219 KarenWI
I agree with you, in principle – that the people most affected by the drilling should have the biggest say. But when we are talking about oil, some people living in Alaska stand to make piles of money, while others may have their land and lives devastated. Unfortunately, as is often the case, money may have the louder voice.
That’s why I think it’s a good idea to for people like us to have these discussions. Also, the land we are talking about is federal . . . if it were state-owned land I agree that we wouldn’t have too much to say about it.
OH!! I forgot to post this earlier- Section A, page 27 of today’s NYT- full page ad, here is the link
http://www.myonemansopinion.org/
bluejay… who are those others who may have their lands and lives devastated..
have they opposed drilling?
#451 Great move!
#445 BillieJo
oooops, I see typos already, so let me know if you see more.
Hope this isn’t a repeat; Democrats Sue Michigan G.O.P. on Voter Issue
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/obama-campaign-files-lawsuit-against-republicans-in-michigan/?nl=pol&emc=pola1
455 TexasTigress
electricity !!!!!!
really does have alot of “power” over us – doesn’t it?
glad you able to communicate with your family again.
Here’s my letter to Howard Dean:
Dear Howard Dean,
I started out supporting Obama last winter. When I saw how the media unfairly trashed Hillary Clinton, I changed my mind. As a woman, I decided not to tolerate that kind of treatment any longer. During the campaign, I realized that Hillary was the very best and most experienced person to run this country.
Your superdelegate manipulations, your allowing of caucus fraud, your refusal to come to Hillary’s defense when under sexist attacks by the media, your stone-faced arrogance towards all women, and your DNC convention machinations to deny Hillary delegates their pledged duty–these have turned me against you and your candidate.
I will not vote for your candidate Obama. If you think the real Hillary supporters will stand behind you, you could not be more mistaken. This election is not just about your “issues.” One of my “issues” is to end sexism now. Obama will not get my Hillary vote.
Sincerely,
ThecandypoemPUMA.
bythelake..sounds like the dnc obama are for voter fraud
I’m reading right now in NoQuarter, President Bill Clinton invited John McCain to do the Opening Remarks for Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) annual conference this year which world leaders and and economic leaders will attend. McCain will be there to deliver the opening remarks.
Bill is a democrat, why is it he has McCain on top instead of NOBAMA?
It just say one thing to me, Bill Clinton is not buying the bullshit NObama is selling; he knew NObama is Walking Eagle; so full of shit he can’t freaking fly.
Texas did Mom get power? nvm Ill call her
457 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.16.08 at 4:07 pm OH!! I forgot to post this earlier- Section A, page 27 of today’s NYT- full page ad, here is the link
http://www.myonemansopinion.org/
AWESOME! Thanks for sharing! I emailed it friends and foes!
Does this surprise anyone? LOL…
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/cnns-crowley-obama-team-wanted-horrific-wall-street-headlines.html
Okay folks!!!!
Bill Clinton is the BIG DAWG!!! NObama is pissing like a puppy!! ROTFLMAO!!1
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/16/big-cheers-for-bill-clinton/
Blue Blue Gal on 09.16.08 at 4:01 pm TexasTigress
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
woo hoo
so glad to see you back
do you need grizzly and me to come down – he offered me shotgun!!!!
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Yeah, I can see the news at 11 – naked woman with chainsaw fends off strangers……
Watch this video of a US soldier who served in Iraq addressing NObama. Will make your eyes water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
I guess I take exception to the very notion of our dependency on “foreign oil.”
Oil is a global economy, and as such, all of our oil is “foreign.”
Oil that we drill on American soil or off our coastlines does not go into our gas pumps. It’s drilled by international oil companies and sold back to us on the world market at the same price we pay for oil drilled anywhere in the world. We don’t get a special discount for ruining our wildlife refuge or poisoning our coastlines. On the contrary, the massive infrastructure costs for developing the Arctic refuge, or constructing off shore oil rigs (and cleaning up ocean spills) will most certainly come back to us in the price at the pump.
I just sent the Logan Act fax out.
NOW PAC Endorses Obama-Biden
NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy stated, “Women of all ages, races and ethnicities are coming together in support of Sen. Obama and his pledge to fulfill this country’s promise of equal opportunity for our daughters as well as all our sons.”
Learn more
WHERE THE HELL WAS GANDY AND NOW WHEN HRC WAS
CAMPAIGNING??????
Gandy and NOW are out of touch. They probably received mass emails from a desperate BO campaign and moveon.org. Let’s send Gandy some of our own emails. What a useless, worthless, anti-feminist organization NOW has become.
#469…Asian4Hillary…You gotta love him. Bill has still got it . Would love to go to this conference.
#451 ONE FOR ALL – good for you – what I have been doing with the Berg lawsuit is posting it on any and every newspaper blog that I can find and including those for tv stations – sometimes you can sneak it in on them – when they ask you for advice on reporting information – NONE to date have picked it up and have done it at least 500 times – but I will continue to do it:
FOR ALL PUMAS – on Dateline last night they had a sement about terrorism and now have a website: http://www.thehansenfile.com – for anyone to request something for their show – don’t we all have something that we could ask them to talk about – from Bergs law suit – to everything else that we have uncovered. Lets do it -
karen.. we should all expect the worse from obama
470 Grizzly – LOL !!!!!!!
Texas go look at the site!
Murphy ~ I am getting ready to go punch the ticket for Ed O’ Reilly… but I’ve not done my homework yet… you would not happen to have a MA Primary slate handy would you?
Hi Pumas
What about all those people that have been displaced because of Ike? I assume they will have to re-register to vote. Galveston is completely gone. Could some voter registration fraud occur?
470 Grizzly
that sure would defeat our purpose of rescuing her – lol
481 stoney42
what an excellent point !!!
will now go and think about the ramifications-
Sorry typo – keep having to refresh to repost this : should have been – http://www.thehansenfiles.com
to suggest a topic for Dateline shows – we could do Berg, Acorn, Caucus Fraud, Roll Call Votes, illegal registrations, Logan Act – we could do ten shows for them.
greenfun on 09.16.08 at 4:24 pm NOW PAC Endorses Obama-Biden
NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy stated, “Women of all ages, races and ethnicities are coming together in support of Sen. Obama and his pledge to fulfill this country’s promise of equal opportunity for our daughters as well as all our sons.”
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I don’t get it. Obama offiers mere lip service to women’s issues but has no record to point to. McCain, on the other hand, practices what he preaches. Actions versus “just words”: (sorry in advance for the length of this post)
From the Seattle PI, 9/11/2008
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/378772_murdockonline12.html
“A watchdog group called LegiStorm posts online the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers. “We have no political affiliations and no political purpose except to make the workings of Congress as transparent as possible,” its website explains…
Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397…
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average…
Again, on average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign website condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1. In spite of this 17-cent gap between Obama’s rhetoric and reality, he chose to chide GOP presidential contender John McCain on this issue…
McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878…
On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIM7GOVizI
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/12/opinion/main4443922.shtml
‘Now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day’s work,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said August 28 in his convention acceptance speech. He told the crowd in Denver: “I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.”
Obama’s campaign website is even more specific. Under the heading “Fighting for Pay Equity,” the women’s issues page laments that, “Despite decades of progress, women still make only 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. A recent study estimates it will take another 47 years for women to close the wage gap with men at Fortune 500 corporate offices. Barack Obama believes the government needs to take steps to better enforce the Equal Pay Act.”
Obama’s commitment to federally mandated pay equity stretches from the Rockies to Wall Street and beyond. And yet it seems to have eluded his United States Senate office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that Obama pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make….
Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average. ..
Of Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women…
On average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. ..
Obama’s criticism notwithstanding, McCain’s payment patterns are the stuff of feminist dreams.
McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.
On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, ceteris paribus, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart – while adding $10,726 to her annual income – by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain…
Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women – much more than men – for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels…
In short, these statistics suggest that John McCain is more than fair with his female employees, while Barack Obama – at the expense of the women who work for him – quietly perpetuates the very same pay-equity divide that he loudly denounces. Of all people, the Democratic standard bearer should understand that equal pay begins at home. “
#455 ((((((((TexasTigress)))))))))) glad your back and glad to hear you were ok……..
#461 bythelake Wow. It’s terrible the mortgage crisis is making so many lose their homes, but hopefully they can get their new addresses on file properly before voting. Remember reading where bo folks registered homeless using park bench addresses (and paid them to vote bo). Goes to figure they would fight this. Sad our election process has become so corrupt.
Blue Blue Gal on 09.16.08 at 4:29 pm 470 Grizzly
that sure would defeat our purpose of rescuing her – lol
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Rescusing HER? Somehow I think we’d be the ones hollering for help!
486 slyt2
maybe tonight is the night ! have no need for alarm in am !!! lol lol
you’ll be able to tell from my post, inho !!!!!!
Just got the following email from Bill. My response follows. I don’t know how he can do this????????
————– Original message from Bill Clinton : ————–
Dear Diane,
If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!
That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.
Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.
Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.
After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.
It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.
Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!
If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!
This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.
Thank you for everything,
Bill Clinton
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Wake up Bill, we will not vote for that crook, empty suit Obama!!!
McCain/Palin 08
A Dem campaigner was just at my front door-and boy she caught me in one of my PUMA Angry Moments. I let her have it, told her to take me off of their lists, do not call me, stop sending me absentee ballots, told her I called the election board and the Republican Party yesterday and told them about the absentee ballot, and furthermore, to stop trying to steal votes. Goodbye, Adios.
Good explanation of NObama tax cut in simple words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM3Ls8NNc5Q
#469 Asian4Hillary
I LOVE IT……LET HIM TAKE BACK SEAT TO THE BIG DAWG!…. YOU GOTTA HAND IT TO BILL, HE’S GOT BRASS BA**S!
It appears more and more that the will and votes of the people doesn’t matter, doesn’t even count. Not in 2000 anyway, or 2004 nor in the primarys of 2008. So there is every reason to believe the same will happen in November.
Does anyone suppose there may be a group of people who have so much money that money doesn’t matter anymore? To whom only power matters? And if this group does exist they certainly wouldn’t want to trust their existence and future to the will of people with no money or power whatsoever. They would manipulate and control the system which controls the masses to preserve their power.
In essence, our entire political and election process is merely ‘entertainment’ provided by this group to keep the masses preoccupied.
It’s scary to contemplate because it’s such a real likelihood. We all are barely pawns on a giant chessboard and, at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what we think or feel at all. It makes sheeple of Democrats, Republicans, Independents and the whole process. That’s why nothing ever changes and politicians run for office on the promises of ‘change’.
Think about it!!! The people didn’t wnt Viet Nam. The people didn’t want Korea. The people didn’t want Iraq. The people didn’t want Bush. The people DID want Gore. Did want Kerry. Did want Hillary Clinton. Do want universal healthcare. Do want jobs.
Our decent paying jobs have been stolen~~outsourced to countries where wages are more reasonable.
If the country had voluntarily deflated in the early 80’s, our economy would be sound and those jobs would still be here. People would really OWN their own houses.
The Civil War didn’t abolish slavery—it legalized it. How does it feel to be a slave? To debt? How does it feel to know you have sold all your tomorrows to this group of people? This whole country has been sold out and it’s probably too late to do a damn thing about it. So we just keep playing this same game, getting older in the process. We choose teams–repubs, dems, indys. And as long as we keep playing this game this ‘Group’ of people continue their plan to enslave the entire world.
Now ask yourselves WHY?
(((sly))) thanks
Carrie – the site looks awesome !!
PS—It doesn’t matter who we vote for. We lose no matter what!!!
Cash-poor Obama says no to Reid
Harry Reid and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Charles Schumer had hoped at one point to get as much as $10 million from the Obama campaign.
Earlier this month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made a personal appeal to Barack Obama: Help me grow the Democrats’ Senate majority by sharing some of the $77 million you’ve got in the bank.
Obama’s campaign said no.
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I guess all those Clinton Democrats that gave away our votes at the convention to the One, are starting to wonder if selling their souls to the Devil did them any good. Many were threatened that their state Democratic office would get noBo $ if they supported Clinton voters……………….. Karma!
Link to Clinton for Senate Majority Leader
http://hrcforsenatemajorityleader09.com
Alice1943 – On one level, I do believe you are absolutely right!
488 Grizzly
picturing naked woman shoeing us off her property with a chainsaw – probably wielding it in a very authoritative manner -full on and head on –
roflmao
#418 Caracal Carrie
Ready to fax…Is this a prowl?
497 BillieJo
that is exactly why he did not go for the public funding for his campaign – he could withhold where ever and when ever he chose.
PUMAS – if enough of us filled out the form on Dateline – (they have always been fair to date) maybe someone will take some action on this – at least it does not go into moderation like CNN – this is what I wrote – you have 3000 characters – so you can write a lot.
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I think it would be a breaking news story if you investigated the Penna lawyer Berg lawsuit against Barrack Obama – papers have been served on him – no media is picking it up – you don’t have to take sides – just research – as well as l. caucus fraud in the primaries – 2. Logan Act – who violated it and why – 3. ACORN – 4.fraud in Michigan and other States with new voter registrations – I think this is the type of information that citizens would appreciate from a news source – Dateline has always always been the most fair approach of any other news media and hope that an investigation would be involved.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25837141/
from website of : http://www.thehansenfiles.com
DATELINE
#489 Blue Blue Gal there you go just remember no matter what you think hour, hour, hour,,,lol.
Sent my letter out to Howard Dean.
#488 Grizzly glad to see you again.
500 Blue Blue Gal You guys are cracking me up !!!!!!!Don’t you realize that if you approach in a non- threatening manner , crouching and holding a Corona in front of you , you will not be maimed ???
This Real Clear Politics Electoral Map looks good for McCain. McCain leads in the solid and leaning category. Plus they have PA and VA as toss ups, when PA is trending toward McCain.
SUGGESTION
RE: GRASSROOTS ORGS COLLABORATING
and
SPECIFICALLY RE: GATHERING DELEGATE NUMBERS
Murphy meet Ricki.
Ricki meet Murphy.
Talk amongst yourselves.
SUGGESTION
RE: GRASSROOTS ORGS COLLABORATING
and
SPECIFICALLY RE: GATHERING DELEGATE NUMBERS
Murphy meet Ricki.
Ricki meet Murphy.
Talk amongst yourselves.
One4all
LadyHawk put it out earlier. I didn’t get it in my email, but please fax away and if you have any email media contatcs maybe send them a letter too. It is very very important! Thanks so much!
499 Anna7000 Which level would that be?
If we think about it—we don’t want Obama and we don’t want McCain. Where is the ‘win’ in all this? What changes? Besides Fall to Winter?
Obama abandoning Virginia?
Think I will go for a long walk – and no not on a short pier – I do thank you Caracal and New Orleans Puma for responding to my 30 posts or more today – nice to be loved – and I am not a sensitive guy either.
Caracal was it you or Texas Tigress that was doing the TV stations for Penna Ohio and Florida – do you have others as well – I know – as usual there was not that much support and was going to give it up – but I personally and have a good dozen friends that follow up on anything that will make a difference – if you have any more that you have researched would love for you to post it – as I have my own prowl power behind the scenes -
Please make it in CAPITAL LETTERS OF BOBRAM – as I said going for a walk..
#438 Bluejay
Hey Bluejay! I’ve been crazy busy with work and not blogging as much as I would like to.
I’ve not seen anything yet so how about trying another email thru Murphy.
#509 Caracal Carrie No fax machine sorry but I can sent it out to the media if you like
Alice1943, this is a serious question. What don’t you like about McCain?
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http://sweetness-light.com/archive/did-obama-turn-down-a-wall-street-career
It’s absolutely amazing how many people don’t know that the Federal ‘Government’ has nothing to do with the PRIVATE entity, the Federal Reserve.
I’d really like to know when we voted Allan Greenspan the leader of our national economy. And when did we give Bernanke the same power when Greenspan ‘retired’?
This same PRIVATE entity just infused 70 billion dollars into Wall Street. Think about it.
Godzilla – why do you say that about Obama and Virginia – was going for a walk but that peeked my interest – would love for him to go away from that KEY STATE
Repost for #312 GIRLSRULE and other wonderful newbies:
Meant to welcome you to this site the other day. I like your name and your attitude. I’m a center to left Dem and have no qualms in crossing party lines for a good, moderate candidate when faced with a candidate that is further left than I’d EVER be. I think partisanship is ridiculous and a threat to our country. Sure, we can have differences, but keep it real!
Sorry peaked not peeked -
513 bobram – AWESOME Idea ! I just did it ! I hope more pumas will as well ! Power in numbers ! Love it ! I sent them 3 links also .
#509 Caracal Carrie,
Consider it done!
516 Godzilla Let’s say our lives are ruled by a ‘quarter’. Obam (dems) is one side of the quarter. McCain (repubs) is the other side of the quarter. Both make up the whole quarter. Heads we lose, tails we lose. It is this ‘group; I refer to that owns the quarter. The group is the only entity with power to create change. Neither Obam nor McCain can do anything more than sit up at the pedestal and say what they think, don’t think, promise, etc. They can’t say HOW they will change anything because they both know they can’t change anything—except their minds.
SLYT2 – http://www.faxzero.com – two free faxes per day.
#519 bobram, check out that article I linked to. Obama operatives in VA are being directed to PA. And in a Zogby poll, McCain is up 49 to 44 (scroll down to PA)
Sly I can fax it for you!
Thanks One!
look at what the dems are calling offshore drilling. as i type in the senate, they have stuck this onto it and limited miles off our coast
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423462,00.html
hey let’s ask them if you are gonna do an 18 billion dollar tax on oil companies, dont give it to be blewn away on “maybe they wil invest in wind, solar, etc. etc.
do what Palin did, give us a rebate check, taxpayers:
let’s see let’s just say there are 250 million taxpayers, and thats just a guess with 310 million in this country according to stastics, divide 310 million into 18 billion, what do you get?
give that back to taxpayers, like she did in alaska
Murphy, I looked up the ballot on MA dem party website, no surprises there, except for the one John Kerry is going to wake up to!
Words can barely describe how good it felt to vote for Ed O’Reilly, one, he is a stand up guy, and two, he actually cares what happens in Massachusetts, and finally, three, I hope to see John Kerry lose his seat in the Senate. John Kerry has done nothing for the people he represents as far as I can tell. I mean, I could be wrong, but my impression is that John Kerry has a sense of entitlement to his seat here, and I have not noted a stronger presence in that regard now that he has a democratic primary challenger. He just could not give a flying rat butt, again, as far as I can tell.
MINI-PROWL REQUEST:
Tell NOW they should be defending Hillary and Palin instead of endorsing Obama!
NOW at 202-628-8669 Got a live operator just now by pressing Zero.
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Did you write the letter to the editors the other day about the contributions from the ‘big’ corporations? If you did the last line on there said Obama is not fit for the most awesome job of President of the’ Untied ‘States.the word Untied is the one I am questioning if you meant it that way that is fine , but I want to send it to my newspaper just like you wrote it. Please reply.
Email prowl to Howard Dean done.
Where is the ‘win’ in all this? What changes? Besides Fall to Winter?
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What changes is, potentially, the Democratic Party internalizes the message that they are never to tamper with our electoral processes, that we will not tolerate the violation of their own rules, that we will not enable them to select whomever they please, that our votes count and should be counted, and that we will not stand by and allow sexist/misogynist, nor racist, nor ageist statements to go unchallenged. That’s what we hope (uck, I hate that word now) will change, and not in any hopeydopey changey barACK! way either!
#524 Alice1943, I was just wondering about the issues. McCain is against drilling Anwar, iffy on illegal immigration (though he won’t give them driver’s licenses), believes in global warming…I mean why is he even a republican? Obama would be president if not for Sarah Palin.
Posting Suggestions
I have noticed an escallation in the Obamabot activity, more of the paid bloggers I would guess. One thing they really do not like posted anywhere in the Berg Lawsuit.
Bergs website http://www.obamacrimes.com has linkes to several PDF documents. I would recommend posting them everywhere you can. The MSM knows and they are acting like three monkeys.
The voter registration stuff is scary, too. I would like to suggest that PUMA’s get the legitimate state information for voter registration and post those links on local boards, urging people to vote.
#490… I wonder what happened to Bill’s statement about candidate A and candidate B? Remember that one? I just don’t understand how he and Hill can really say things like that after what BO and the dem leadership did to them! I mean, talk about kicking them in the tush, grinding their heels in their faces, and then spitting on them! WHY WHY WHY are they still staying loyal to them??? You know, I am getting sick and tired of people (Bill/Hill AND people in my own area) who vote one party regardless of who is in it, what they stand for, and what has happened in there, just because they always vote that party! That is dangerous! My gosh, what happened to these peoples brains ? I hate to say this, but it’s when people stop thinking for themself, and just vote party, they are setting up for another Hitler. I’m not just cutting dems here, I’m cutting repubs too. COUNTRY FIRST!
Hi Puma Pals,
I do believe even CA will turn a light purple.
There will be a new “Bradley Effect” but this time NOT because of actual racism. (It is still debatable if that was ever a factor to begin with) There are many non-racist voters who are afraid to tell the pollsters their true leanings and women, in particular, who have had it with the gender bias. At the moment this group of voters is unseen and incalculable unless one is really paying attention.
The political atomosphere has become so charged many simply won’t discuss their choice. They will pull the lever for anyone but Senator Obama on Nov. 4.
Could it be as high as 8% ?
madazhel
Has anyone received an e-mail from Tesstown today besides me?????
DancesWithPuma
What changes is, potentially, the Democratic Party internalizes the message that they are never to tamper with our electoral processes, that we will not tolerate the violation of their own rules, that we will not enable them to select whomever they please, that our votes count and should be counted, and that we will not stand by and allow sexist/misogynist, nor racist, nor ageist statements to go unchallenged. That’s what we hope (uck, I hate that word now) will change, and not in any hopeydopey changey barACK! way either!
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You’ve hit the nail right on the head!!!
#532 I meant this post to go to Anna7000
513 bobram
joined “your” prowl
As long as the people refuse to think about these things, continuing to play the slavery game, we stay in denial and nothing changes. We will have either a dem or a repub as president, perhaps a slight change in congessional makeup, and we will still have financial crisises, home foreclosures, job outsourcing, poverty, natural disasters—and the ‘Group’ will continue to leach all our wealth as usual while we happily grumble about ‘politics as usual’.
The first really huge irem in their ‘plan’ was establishing ‘credit’. When the people finally wake up to the fact that this institution has actually enslaved them, this country will explode. But to what avail?
Completed e-mail to howarddean@dnc.org
#531 Prowl
Called and gave them a piece of my mind. WIMPS!
Anyone else having extreme difficulties blogging – taking 5 minutes to work -
I always lie when I say I am going for a walk – I still lurk —
TEXAS TIGRESS – YOU ARE AWESOME – now if we can get Caracal to do it and LADYHAWKKE – if you are lurking somewhere – this is YOUR opportunity to bring out the Logan act to Date Line – and each and every other PUMA that has their own agenda about OBAMI – BILLIEJO you have some – ANNA 7000 you have some – this is your opportunity to go for it – they JUST PUT up this website last night – and once we infiltrate it with our suggestions – BEFORE they have a moderator we might have a chance to get our message out there – I already got a response back this quickly saying they would get a team looking into some of my suggestions –
http://www.thehansenfiles.com – this is for Dateline who exposes everything from child molesters in the US – Thailand – and last night about terrorism -
Please help out on this project.
535 Godzilla It doesn’t frickin matter who is elected. Nothing is going to change. Just like the only thing that has changed in the last 60 yeas I’ve been alive is poverty and debt have grown.
The CEO’s escape with their 10’s of millions in bonuses and the people who go to work every day lose their entire livlihoods. Neither one of them ‘gets it’.
Bobram – carrie was just doing it ( I was on the phone with her when I was doing it ) and BlueBlue gal did it as well !
#512 Godzilla
Obama’s bots travelling to PA? We’re ready for ‘em.
PUMA Democrat from northeastern PA
HEADCLUNKER – post that on http://www.thehansenfiles.com – its for Dateline – OBOTS will really hate it then.
THANK YOU BLUE BLUE GAL – I am keeping a journal on those that can be counted on as being active and then well – then the others — you are one that can be counted on to be sure.
452 Blue Blue Gal
I agree. I should have inserted the term “credible” members of the Puma coalition in my comment. Ricki is credible (except for the leave the top of the ballot blank, which, as stated earlier, I have a problem with.)
#527 Caracal Carrie cool what are we faxing the letter that was posted or do we have to make up are own??
Alice – I knew you’d come back at me with that question as soon as i typed my post! Truth be told, hard to articulate. I guess it boils down to knowing i cannot vote for bo. Nor do i support Mc Cain. But my feelings about bo are far stronger. So maybe that’s the whole “level” thing.
PS You and Osaka remind me of a couple of folks who used to blog here. One blogger in particular!
536 Headclunker
Your right! I have been posting about the Berg Lawsuit and I am getting a lot of unintelligent hate mail. This is eating them alive. Now, thanks to your links….I can go back and see if they can come up with any new words. Ha!ha!
Hi Ladies! I’ve been reading your blog for about 3 weeks now and I must say you are a very resourceful group and I admire your gumption.
I’m a Lou-Dobbs independent. We were going to sit this election out…until Sarah Palin became the VP elect. I am now fired up because I feel that with Sarah’s nomination, the One has revealed his true self, along with his supporters – and they disgust me. They must not win.
I’ve joined today, because I wanted you all to know how your comments have made me feel more empowered and I’m happy that I’m not alone in my disgust at the sexist attacks that occurred both on Hillary and Sarah.
Anyway, lots to say. Just thought I’d give you this story:
Greta has the “Obama trying to trick the media” story:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/this-is-pretty-ridiculoussenator-obamas-campaign-trying-to-trick-the-media/
Greta found the rest of the interview:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/got-it-this-is-the-entire-statement-by-carly-fiorina/
Wasn’t it the ONE who just called McCain out for running sleazy ads?
We have to have ‘issues’. We have always had ‘issues’. They keep us hooked on the game.
There is an old saying, “When the ship starts to sink, all the rats jump first.” So—if you see Obama elected, it might be time to bend over and kiss it all good-bye.
#40 just.words… on 09.16.08 at 10:03 am
Fellow PUMAs.
We’ve got The One on the run!
His campaign handlers don’t trust him to speak at all anymore without his precious teleprompter:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/15/obamas-teleprompter-hits-the-trail/
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I laughed M.A.O. about this news tidbit. They probably have a special car for the teleprompter and a back-up teleprompter!!! I am sure all of the candidates use them to one degree or the other, but the thought of this ultra-intelligent and uh, articulate, and um, utterly arrogant candidate needing to rely on his computer fed lines is beyond hilarious. The Party Hubris.. and My Own Schadenfreude, a match made in the inferno surely…
553 Anna7000
550 bobram
puma blushing – thank you
Anna7000: Please read post 532. Thanks
Just got home from a long a$$ drive and I found an email from Bill Clinton asking to give Obama money. Here is my response back:
I will only donate if the monies go to retire Hillary’s debt. I do not want one penny of my money to go to Senator Obama! Please sent the link to go towards the debt and then I will donate. Please know that I have the most respect for you and Senator Clinton. Just not the head of the Democrat Party. Howard, Harry, Donna and lets not forget BARRY! I said NO DEAL
Sincerely
Mary XXXXX
Puma Pac Democrat
422 Caracal Carrie
It happens.
Lots of us are overworked (underpaid, heh), stressed, and anxious.
The comment was meant to be a general one, not directed at you personally.
Well, I received my first letter from the DNC asking for money. I tore up the bumper sticker they sent me and wrote “NOBAMA” on one side of the return slip and “SEXISTS” on the other side. I’m mailing both the slip and the torn bumper sticker back on their self-addressed stamped envelope. Just protesting in a small way.
Best,
Lara08
#560 mkp651 – You very likely made his day!
oops—wonder who. BTW, I totally agree about BO.
Bobram Im sorry..Done!
Sly I think its ok to fax as written.
#547 Alice1943, I won’t argue that the corruption in Washington isn’t entrenched. I could go through a list of things that I don’t like about Obama, but the scariest of all is the fact that he simply doesn’t have the experience or the intelligence to be the Commander In Chief of the military. Not with Iran racing to get Nuclear Weapons, and who knows what’s going to happen with North Korea when Ding Dong croaks?
I was surprised to discover that Alan Greenspan is actually married to the journalist Andrea Mitchell.
DWP
I didn’t take it that way. I know you weren’t saying “out damn spot!” at me LOL. Just thought I’d take some responsibility.
562 Lara08 – I received one too. Mailed everything back with a “donation” of $44 Fake PUMA Dollars! Enjoyed that.
#278 Drilling does not effect the wildlife. The gas and oil companies have safety precautions that they take and have been doing it for years. The corrupted Dems are the ones putting that in peoples heads because they want to keep buying oil from foreign countries. Oil is down to 92 dollars a barrel as of this morning and convience stores are buying gas at 2.56 and WHY and gas prices are still rising they are only suppose to charge a little over cost not over a dollar. If you think about it the convience stores are the ones ripping us off. everyone needs to report price gauging. I will find out tonight from my other half what the cost of oil per barrel was today when he gets home.
551 DancesWithPumas
i also agree – no empty top – leaves room to be stuffed (falsely – like when i was in eighth grade) lol lol
i have had this point of view for some time and have not been shy about posting it. just not emailed it to murphy. ): ):
PUMAS _ If you haven’t done this – PLEASE do it now . It is a great prowl and ,when we all work together , we can really make some noise !!!!!
503 bobram on 09.16.08 at 4:42 pm PUMAS – if enough of us filled out the form on Dateline – (they have always been fair to date) maybe someone will take some action on this – at least it does not go into moderation like CNN – this is what I wrote – you have 3000 characters – so you can write a lot.
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I think it would be a breaking news story if you investigated the Penna lawyer Berg lawsuit against Barrack Obama – papers have been served on him – no media is picking it up – you don’t have to take sides – just research – as well as l. caucus fraud in the primaries – 2. Logan Act – who violated it and why – 3. ACORN – 4.fraud in Michigan and other States with new voter registrations – I think this is the type of information that citizens would appreciate from a news source – Dateline has always always been the most fair approach of any other news media and hope that an investigation would be involved.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25837141/
from website of : http://www.thehansenfiles.com
DATELINE
I am looking for the site for those up for re-election. I saw it posted the other day. Anyone know??
Here’s my daily email from the Obama campaign. This one is from Bill Clinton. This makes me so mad that Bill would do this and on top of it, use Hillary as a tool to get people to donate to the unworthy jerk Obie.
Dear xxxxxx
If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!
That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.
Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.
Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.
After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.
It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.
Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!
If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!
This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.
Thank you for everything,
Bill Clinton
#565 Caracal Carrie Well is ladyhawkkee online ? If it’s ok with her then that’s what I can do and then send it out to media also. I will change it up a bit though.
560 mkp651
i am under the impression that once the convention is over there can be no more monies accepted for debt reduction. she can put the monies in her warchest for future senate campaign or future presidential campaign only –
any puma know for sure?
#538 madazzhel
Funny you should bring this up. For the first time in my life, I am afraid to discuss my political opinions and concerns. Some of my friends are talking about this. Any dissent from the party line is met with such shocking and personal upbraiding; I have never experienced this before. (Keep in mind that I am a pro-life Democrat so I am very familiar with tense discussions. But I have never felt threatened.)
I am politically active; I have walked door to door and pounded in signs. I am nervous about doing so now. Combine this with the lack of bumper stickers and signs in some areas of the country, and maybe this is significant. We won’t know until November. My fear is that we might not even then.
I am concerned about the blatantly unbalanced media and now the subtle sense of retribution if Obama is not elected. My greatest fear is that there will be violence is Obama is not elected. I don’t like where this is going and I greatly fear for my country. I am struggling not to feel intimidated. And I am not easily intimidated.
Sly
I have no idea. I used hers and chaged it a bit.
#574 UtahPuma
I got the same email. Pissed me off too!
If all the people here that are trying to make us more and more conscious of the harm that some drilling can do to the environment are trying to plant seeds of distrust in Governor Palin, then you are out of line since we do not campaign here.
I am quite confident that all of us here are also environment conscious. However, our aim here is to keep a greater evil from taking over the country, namely OBAMA AND “HIS GANG” of no gooders.
Vote the way you want, but do not try to convince us how to vote.
#574 utah
Daily? Yuck!
#574 utahpuma
I got that to, after changeing the subject line to no obama my reply was: ” I will vote Hillary in 2012 but now it is McCain. Sorry the Dem party is broken this election and nothing can change it.”
#418 Caracal Carrie THANK YOU!! I think I’m going to do a media prowl on this also. But the Ethics Committee is very important.
#572 TexasTigress: I sent mine .
Was someone looking for PA TV stations?
Puma Pac Action Center
http://www.pumapac.org/media.htm
Just saw this interesting annoucement. Hmmmmm.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/16/1407489.aspx
Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:53 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton, Palin
From NBC’s Chuck Todd
Both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin will participate in a protest on Monday of the presence of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadienjad, NBC News has learned.
The two politicians will not appear together at the protest but will both participate, according to those close to the organizing of this protest. The event is being organized by a coalition of groups (mostly Jewish) upset by the presence of Ahmadienjad in New York at the opening of the U.N. General Assembly and the threat Iran presents to “global security.”
The protest will take place across the street from the U.N.
Two questions…
Are we organizing on this site still and do we just take today’s Prowl from the blog?
Let me add..The BO people hated my comments so much on the lawsuit that they have had my comments disabled!! Ha, ha.
#580 Lilibet No one is telling you how to vote. I am against drilling in ANWR and am still voting for McCain. I faxed McCain and told him how I felt. McCain has never wanted to drill in ANWR. Sarah does. I just hope he doesn’t listen to her.
I heard BO is charging $38,000.00 per person for his fund raising dinner tonight. Another $5,000.00 to hear Barbra S. afterwards. Who are these people?
I think you might be right about the debt. Thats not really the point, I will not give any money for Obama. He is having a dinner in Hollywood tonight let them cough up 50,000 a plate instead of 28,500. Give me a break! My bitter dollars can go the something a hell of a lot more important than that asshole!
ladyhawke – I sent part of the info to the prowl bobram set us up with. I think it is so great that you are working to get this out !!! I had no idea about the Logan Act violations ! we need to spread the word fast and far … Thanks
573 NVPuma
I think Murphy posted a suggested slate for critical states three days ago. If you wnat to wait two hours, I can post it to the PUMA PAC Action Center when I get home from “wack” (c. kat in your hat).
LETTER TO THE EDITOR TYPO!!!!
No, I did not mean to write “untied”. Meant it to say “United”. My spell check didn’t catch it since untied is a word. Sorry I didn’t see the post about it. Pookie, thanks for pointing it out.
BO’s campaign continues its dirty tricks campaign.
Fiorina: Obama Camp ‘Deceitful’ in Clipping My Quote
by FOXNews.com
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
“it clipped part of an interview in which Republican Victory 2008 Chairwoman Carly Fiorina said John McCain was not qualified to be the head of a corporation, Fiorina said Tuesday.
Earlier in the day, Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewlett-Packard, appeared on MSNBC, where she said none of the candidates is qualified to run a major corporation, but that should not prevent them from running the country.
“I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation. But on the other hand a major corporation is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States,” Fiorina said.
“It is a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company. So of course to run a business you have to have a lifetime of experience in business, but that’s not what Sarah Palin, John McCain, Joe Biden or Barack Obama are doing,” she said.
But the Obama campaign, pointing to a version of Fiorina’s statement that was clipped after the first sentence, berated McCain for not winning the trust of even his own supporter…”
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Berg’s site: obamacrimes.com
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I sent 4 to Barry but I could not force myself to kiss the envelope so I pasted a picture of a Raccoon on the back flap .( Raccoons are thieves) I doubt they will take the hint.
587 NVPuma
I thought Murphy emailed it to registered Pumas this morning.
#585 Dances, do we still need media contact info for NV? I can get together the Reno/Northern Nevada.
#587 NVPuma The prowl I put on at #181 was mine. I asked Murphy to send to all Pumas but I guess it wasn’t. If you want to do it, please do. I think it’s important.
The Untied Demo* Crated Party
*demo (as in demonstration or demolished)
FINEARTISTINOIL
UTAH PUMA
Fineartistinoil – if you post the berg information on :
http://www.thehansenfiles.com – I bet you will get some attention there – its a new site as of last night -
Utah Puma – you are always great at action items – bet you could add something for that site above Dateline – to investigate.
Thank you Caracal -
Thank you again Texas Tigress – both you and Caracal can always be counted on as action partners – some reason Superwoman comes to mind
I was in the car for 4 1/2 hours so I listened to rush Limbauh this morning and he was talking about the Logan Act violation. Did not sound like he was going to let it die by any means. Maybe thats way my mood turned so sour. I really can’t stand rush.
#596 that should have said Voter Registrations. that makes 2 x’s today this has happened to me I always copy my post’s in case they don’t go thru and it is leaving the heading off. Oh well
#597 Dances
Last thing I received was yesterday’s prowl. Could you email it to me? Pretty please?!
Ok I had to pop in and share this. I just got a letter from the dnc complete with a free bumper sticker. The letter, asking for a contribution of course, says we have only 68 days left.
Roflmao.
I can’t believe this. They must have had a lot of these left over and started mailing them to any random address.
The bumper sticker? Says vote democrat. NO mention of “O”.
This is too funny.
LADYHAWKKE – put YOUR prowl on the hansenfiles – Dateline – let them investigate it for you — Logan Act -
http://www.thehansenfiles.com
587 NVPuma -Murphy mails out the official prowls , but there are times when things come up during the day that are worthy of our attention . If I think something has the potential of being PRODUCTIVE – I will do it in an instant . Some personal puma prowls have great potential to make a real difference and I strongly support all pumas who put in their personal prowl requests .
598 NVPuma
Absolutely! We need contacts from all states. Our work will not end on Nov 4. The Puma Democratic Party and PUMA PAC will continue.
Send info to: actioncenter@pumapac.org
Thanks!!
590 stoney42
oprah, oprah, oprah
#599 ladyhawkke
Will do!
I would not worry too much about fraud, the republicans are not sucking their thumbs, the federal government seems not to care about how each party picks its candidate, but for general elections they are going to be on the watch, the thugs probably are not going to get away with it this time, plus there would be international observers, that is if bozzo gets that far
I shall send them one million dollars in PUMA cash.
Hi just jumping back in after 4 days of being under the weather (hurricane weather that is). It will take ma a while to catch up. Especially since we’re still running on generators here in Houston. Did I miss any big news over the weekend?
bobram -”Superwoman ” !!!!! Ok , I can live with that .
604 NVPuma
#597 Dances
Last thing I received was yesterday’s prowl. Could you email it to me? Pretty please?!
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I couldn’t do it even if it was an “Ugly please”. I’m at my day job and don’t have access to my email. I will send when I get home though… unless another PUMA volunteers right now.
Email from President Clinton:
Dear,
If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!
That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.
Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.
Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.
After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.
It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.
Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!
If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!
This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.
Thank you for everything,
Bill Clinton
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Here’s my reply:
Dear President Clinton,
I’ve worked hard for your campaign in the 90’s, I was one of your volunteers; I’ve worked hard when VP Gore ran for President in 2000, I’ve done the same thing for Kerry in 2004. I’m a bleeding heart Democrat.
Bill, I have a lot of respect for you, you’re the best President in my generation as far as I am concern. Now you’re asking me to contribute to Obama? Bill, I can’t send even half penny for Obama, he is wrong for America.
You can ask me for anything, but NEVER ask me to support Obama financially or vote for him, that is like selling my soul to the devil. You and Hillary will always have my support; but when it comes to Obama, we have to part ways.
Sincerely,
#605 BOBRAM GREAT IDEA! But I don’t know how to do that. Am I supposed to make a video for a story? No way can I do that. I just want to post my letter to the Ethics Committee there.
dances – what about the “partly” part?
notfollowinthepiedpiper _ SOOOOOOOOOOOO Happy you are all ok !!!!! We just got power a couple hours ago ! Keep the faith ! This Logan act violation by obama that ladyhawke posted and Carrie re-posted shocked the shit out of me ! I hate not having news !!! Also , bobram has a good prowl up thread . Glad to have you back !!!
mkp651
in case they send you a link ( suggesting it is debt reducing for hillary) i wanted you to know that that can no longer happen.
i am open to correction,pumas.
Asian4hillary, nice letter. That’s where we part ways is right. I love me some Hillary but even if she showed up at my door and asked me to vote for obama, I respectfully would have to say “NO way”.
#591 and anyone else… how does BO get away with $50,000/person with the $2400 donation limit???
DATE: September 15, 2008
TO: Puma PAC
FROM: Murphy
SUBJECT: Register PROWL
Hello Puma PAC,
We have 50 days until Election Day. Right now the Obama Movement is in meltdown. The polls show a continuing decline for Obama/Biden and a continuing upward trend for McCain/Palin.
This is when we have to start worrying about desperate, last-ditch efforts by the Obama Movement to try to manipulate the outcome on November 4th. Voter fraud, perpetrated by Obama followers, through “absentee balloting” is a very real possibility.
Today the Obama Movement unveiled a nifty little internet tool that makes it VERY EASY to register to vote. (They also sneaked in a way to hold on to YOUR private information, including your Driver’s License number.)
Today, we are sending the message to the Obama Movement that Puma PAC is WATCHING. Chicago style might work where they come from, but it is NOT the way voters like things done. Puma PAC believes in free and FAIR elections. Cheating and rule-bending are UNACCEPTABLE and un-American.
Please go to this site and fill out an application to register to vote. http://www.voteforchange.com/index_obama.php?source=091008emailR#
Here is the information to use when filling out the form:
Name: Barry Sotero
Address: 233 North Michigan Avenue,
City, State: Chicago IL, 60601(Obama’s Chicago campaign HQ)
Tel: 866-675-2008
Email: democraticparty@democrats.org
Last 4 digits of Social Security Number: 0061 (I made that up)
Be SURE to type Puma Democratic Party in the spot that asks for your party affiliation.
Once you’ve filled out the online form, print it out and mail it to the Obama HQ. Be sure to include some Puma PAC cash as a friendly donation and seal the form with a kiss.
The address again: Barack Obama, 233 North Michigan Avenue, Chicago IL, 60601
The second part of this PROWL is to call the Obama HQ immediately and ask the following question: When will Barack Obama stop trying to steal elections? Use this phone number: 866-675-2008.
This might seem like a game, but it IS NOT. We are trying to attract attention to our cause BEFORE it is too late.
Thank you and Good Luck,
Murphy.
#615 Dances >Ok thanks, that’ll work because if I don’t get away from the computer for a minute I’m going to go blind.
604 NVPuma
#597 Dances
the above is for you, puma hugs for asking for it -
snowtiger, I got the same thing in the mail. I hope you sent their mailer back with their own postage with the big fat “Hellllllll no!”
#577 Puma Pal
I too have worried about a violent aftermath. I’ve ended all discussions with anyone I know about politics – I am tired of hearing accusations, and even my neighbors don’t know who I’m voting for. I’m sick of the hateful anger and I worry about what they might say to my children. How sad is this – I thought we were living in a democracy.
LADYHAWKEE – No – I would just post what you said in your letter and any links that you might have to substantiate anything – they already got back to me earlier saying they would investigate it and all I gave them were little tidbits here and there – they reach a much larger viewing audience than a newspaper would.
Cut and paste and you are good to go.
#100 NoMoreInFL..
Your post is amazing. My take is that CNN is admitting they have been doing public relations and electioneering for the selected one. I wonder if they were paid to do so. Also, I doubt they are going to change but then against it does not matter since the MSM has lost credibility.
I was wondering the same thing KarenWI, I think maybe its the food. Better be some fine ass food!
I wouldn’t vote OBAMA if Hillary and Bill begged me to. I remember Hillary’s campaign and everything she said about OBAMA. She tried to get the people to see the light and when she did it is like she slammed the door in our faces and started kissing his booty. If she could only see how she looks campaigning for him. Hillary is the one who brough all of this to our attention about OBAMA and now she wants us to vote for him. Has she lost her freaking mind. that is a NO BUT HECK NO!!!!!
Anyone have John McCain’s mail address for my letter? Sarah Palins too?
Thank you Pumas that helped in my personal action item to thehansenfiles – you all do make a difference – have a dinner engagement that I must attend since its for me – 70th birthday SURPISE party – but don’t tell anyone – again love working with those action pumas – hopefully with the 5 or 6 that helped on thehansenfiles will make a difference – have a great day.
#502 Blue Blue Gal on 09.16.08 at 4:42 pm
497 BillieJo
that is exactly why he did not go for the public funding for his campaign – he could withhold where ever and when ever he chose.
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Well, I am sending my letter out bipartisan…no where left to hide.
#578 Caracal Carrie ok you’ve got mail…..
BOBRAM, I did it, I thought I had to make a video. I just sent him the content and asked him to investigate for me.
633 bobram
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday dear puma,
happy birthday to you !!!!!!
#623 Why don’t we just go to spencer’s at the mall and buy the poop spray and spray the voter registration being sent to OBAMA instead of sealing it with a kiss?
Happy Birthday BOBRAM!
Anna7000
What about the “partly” part?
DancesWithPumas
“The Untied Demo* Crated Party
*demo (as in demonstration or demolished)”
Demolished and crated completely, not partly.
Then we can rebuild anew as a cohesive voting block as the PUMA DEMOCRATIC PARTY
alice..
hillary had her shot at the presidency..it just wasn’t in the cards for her to win..thats the fickle finger of fate..we all have our own theory why she lost..
dont look to hillary for help in your puma cause because there isnt anything she can do..
yes,we feel bad for her..but life must go on.. it’s really a shame i know..
638 TEXS4HILLARY that is soooooo funny ! Might piss off the postal workers , but it is funny
Thank you for going to hansenfiles Ladyhawkke – I have a GOOD feeling about this one and thank you and Blue Blue Gal for the Birthday wishes – out the door I am a going…..
I tired sorry so I stole Blue’s lyrics lol.
633 bobram
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday dear puma,
happy birthday to you !!!!!!
BOBRAM _ HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!!!!!
Delegate Count Prowl 9/8/08
Below will be a long post, but I thought it would be good to report results of this Prowl.
After my phone conversatin with Alice Germond I tried to get the information form the NJ State DNC. After 2 days of calls with no results I e-mailed Craig Smith, who was mentioned in my conversation with Alice Germond as someone from the Clinton Campaign who had checked the delegate records in the head office in DC.
My e-mail…
Subject: Citizen Requet
Dear Mr. Smith,
I am writing as an interested supporter of Hillary Clinton and one time democrat. I was very upset, as were many others, by the DNC and the entire primary and convention process.
I would like to know how the delegate votes were cast at the convention. I called the DNC and Alice Germond returned my call. She told me you had been in that morning to check the records for Hillary Clinton. She also gave me the number to call here in NJ to get the information I requested. I have called several times over two days but was unable to reach anyone with the proper credentials to speak with. That explains why I have decided to contact you.
I would like to know 1. The convention ballet vote taken in the morning at the hotel or breakfast, 2. Did each delegate vote as record indicated?
In reference to questions 1 & 2 I believe as a citizen of the U.S. and a resident voter I have the right to know who (by Name) were the delegates that voted for each candidate. I hope I have presented my concerns and questions clearly. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
C. Smith response…
Thanks for your inquiry and we looked into that situation.
The ballots were distributed in the morning at the delegation breakfasts. Delegates could vote then and could continue voting until the roll call began.
During the course of the day, about 60 people who had voted changed their mind and voted for a different candidate than originally indicated. During the course of the day about 40 people switched from Obama to Hillary and about 20 switched from Hillary to Obama.
All told there were several hundred people who did not vote including Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy (who did attach a letter indicating his support for Obama but because he was not there to sign his ballot, his vote was not counted).
In total, it appears that voting process was fair and accurately reflected the will of the delegates as express on the ballots.
Now several delegates reported that they felt pressured to vote one way or another and that I cannot comment on. All I can say is that the ballots were fairly distributed, the voting process was appropriately handled by the DNC and that the final totals reflect the will of the delegates as indicated by the ballots.
Hope this helps.
As for New Jersey, every delegate that voted in the delegation voted for Barack Obama. It was one of about 5 delegations that cast unanimous votes.
And my resply…
Dear Mr. Smith:
Thanks you for your speedy response to my questions. However, your answers only convey something kin to double talk. From my observations at the very least one can say there was confusion at the convention. As Don Fowler said on a YouTube video, last February, “bad conventions lose elections.” I suppose it all depends on what one defines as “bad.” The pseudo “Unity” displayed at the convention only left doubts in the minds of many voters, especially supporters of Hillary Clinton. We would like to know why our votes weren’t represented as we intended. In New Jersey Hillary won the state on February 5th. Sorry if this sounds like I am beating a dead horse, however there can’t be unity in a party that refuses to respect voters’ wishes. Since I can’t find out which delegates honored their responsibility to their constituents I will assume none did. Hence I will not support any Democratic candidate in the upcoming elections. Lastly, the “bad” convention statement will likely come to fruition in November, when the Republican Party wins AGAIN!
I have changed party affiliation and now call myself “independent” and will remain so until there is true reform in the Democratic Party. I believe in the philosophy of the Party but not in their undemocratic actions. We all know actions speak louder than words!
Thank you again for your response and hope the Clintons know there is still a huge amount of support for them among “independent” thinking Democrats!
—– Original Message —–
TexasTigress,
Well they also have the fake cow pattie but it might be to big to fit in an envelope. LMAO! Just a thought but that is how I really feel about him.
http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/776704.html
hillary and palin to protest iranian president new york un
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOBRAM
632 BillieJo
if you get mccain’s contact info would you forward to:
actioncenter@pumapac.org, please? Thanks.
oh, and an other info you’d like to have ease of access to at the puma pac action center.
644 slyt2
a duet !!!!
Interesting article on Sarah Palin and the American Myth – how she embodies it more than BO and that’s her appeal…
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1840388,00.html
How come everyone else’s links are in red and mine are in black????
dances – wow, things have deteriorated since a few days ago when you came up with the clever “partly” name, but i guess that’s the nature of demolition!
RE: RICKI LIEBERMAN’S NUMBERS
Just had a chance to take a look at Ricki’s most recent e-mail. For all those interested, her graph at the end reflects totals that combine pledged and super delegate votes. The numbers are not just pledged.
641 osaka puma
alice..
hillary had her shot at the presidency..it just wasn’t in the cards for her to win.. thats the fickle finger of fate..we all have our own theory why she lost..
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What bs. Sorry, but, that wasn’t the “fickle finger of fate”, that was the middle finger of the corrupt males (and women saturated with patriarchal attitudes) of the DNC/RBC who conspired to drag their boy over the finish line.
Do you have any idea why PUMA was esatblished and exists?
Happy Birthday BOBRAM!
May your heart be light and your purse be heavy……:)
dances – geez, i so wanted to address that, but you beat me to it. thanks for covering that base asap. i don’t respond to much, but that deserved being addressed. i can see you got one eye on your wack and one eye on the pack!
dances..
i dont want to quibble over definitions or semantics so i will say you are right and i am wrong.. i was wrong ok..
NOBAMA!!!!!
#165 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.16.08 at 11:51 am
thanks Carrie and Snow! and just like I said a true PUMA would NEVER!!!!
and:
“TRUE PUMA” here in this blog~ would not make such a comment!
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Hi SouthJersey,
Someone prolly already said this earlier, but I’d like to also reiterate…
Not to worry, that was not a real puma, but an Obot sent to sow dissension in the ranks here.
SJP, come visit my partially tended blog (I am insane busy anymore) that I started for all my Puma pics I’ve collected… The more PUMA sites the better, the more PUMA the better. There are all flavors of PUMA, and everyone has a voice that needs to be heard, and we will all be working together for the rest of our lives and beyond with our generations to come. I’ll come check you out!
ps – Obots, get a life, because you will definitely need something to do after November 5th (after you all stop crying, rioting, committing hara-kiri, meditating, or whatever)
http://deadgirlsrise.blogspot.com/
KarenWI:
In what city are you? My father was born in La Crosse. My mother was born in Chippewa Falls, as was I. My father drove a “streetcar” between Eau Claire and Chippewa Falls.
They moved to Milwaukee when I, child number 7, was a babe in arms.
Happy Birthday Bobram!!
#646 NJ1313
Delegate Count Prowl 9/8/08
Awesome letter and thanks for posting. If I were you, I would take all of them and start sending them to the news media. I wrote one long letter I am sending out, and would add yours if my letter wasn’t already 2 pages long. #445 above.
PUMAs need to start sending this info out to the media, DNC and delegates instead of just posting for PUMAs to know this info.
The Action Center is loaded with email addresses and makes it easy.
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Dances, McCains email : info@johnmccain.com
Happy Birthday BOBRAM!
#572 TexasTigress alright just send that letter out too, not only to Hansen, but hannity and beck and dobbs. We will see if anything happens..
OMG I think I might have to become a repub.
Busing, schools, democrats
I live in an area of NC that is quite racially divided. There are many poor black areas with under preforming schools, not due to lack of money. Mainly due to lack of interest by the parents in these poor areas (not an opinion, its a fact, thats why they want busing). A new school board is up for re-election. ALL the dems that are running want to go back to busing. My street is one picked to send kids 40mins across town to a school that is not preforming and has the highest crime rate in the area. Not only will I not be able to sell my house, its value will not hold to the houses around the corner slated to stick with our neighborhood school. The repubs. want to keep neighborhood schools. The dems dont. stating diversity. Which is fine for them, their kids arent being bused. So lets see, if BO gets in I will pay more in taxes (small bus. tax) to help pay for programs for the poor (fine) BUT my home value will decrease, my children will be bused, and I get to pay for it! WTF
RE: LETTERS TO THE MEDIA
I strongly recommend that:
1. You read the guidelines for some of the mainstream press to get an idea of maximum length. No point in sending a fantastic letter that won’t get read cause it’s simply way too long. Click on the Washington Post or NY Times sites and go to letters or op-ed guidelines.
2. Assume most papers have a maximum of around 1,000 words. Some allow a bit more (1200), some require less (750).
Hone your letter. Might find you have enough ideas to break out into several different letters.
#656
Yes Danceswithpumas, I agree. It was not the “fickle finger of fate.” It was calculated direct action by the DNC and the Obama camp.
I’ve started to think about our movement and what direction it might take and I am ambivalent or maybe pessimistic about what course we could take. Our ideology doesn’t fit with that of conservative women’s or so-called women from the Left, so where do we go from here? I am a Democrat (or will be one once the Party is reformed), but I’m also a feminist. In any case, I might just be thinking out-loud here. I’ll bring this up again once I have concrete plans/ideas. I just don’t see women on the Left embracing a new feminist movement. They are totally stuck in the 1970s. I mean, NOW endorsed BO. I don’t know what that’s about. They should have kept their mouths shut. I just don’t understand NOW’s mentality.
Be back later,
Lara08
Lara – Your post gave me an idea: Maybe a NOW spokesperson could be invited to come onto Blog Talk Radio and this time Murphy could be prepared for the worst (instead of being taken by surprise by Gloria Allred’s endorsement of BO).
663 thanks
will look into sending off.
I am on my way to a Puma meetup in Cental NJ ~~ Matawan~ Anyone near there come and join us It is at the Court Jester on Rt 34
Obama campaign headquarters singing “One Day More” from Les Mis. I used to really like that song.
They look like brainwashed zombies, fighting the “revolution”. Funny and creepy at the same time.
Actors playing McCain and Palin come in at about 2:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ijYVyhnn0
These kids are going to need some serious de-programming in November. Anyone looking for a new job should consider that field. BIG BUCKS!
Thye are showing red to me. I noticed mine were black as well. I guess when you post a link it shows black too yourself.
669 Anna7000
should we take time to prowl gloria in the l.a. papers’ editorials? that would kill her credibility/practice.
#626 mini vee
I’m going to send them PUMA cash. Maybe use the bumper sticker for my dart board.
Ok, so WHY did California pass?
Did you all see James Carville stating Sep 15 will be the day McCain lost the election.
Something stinks in Alaska, and it’s not moose poop:
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/131386
“Five Alaska Legislators, Rep. Wes Keller, Rep. Mike Kelly, Rep. Bob Lynn, Sen. Fred Dyson, and Sen. Tom Wagoner, will file suit in state superior court in Anchorage tomorrow morning (9/16/08) at 9:00 am (Superior courthouse 4th Avenue) against Sen. French, Sen. Kim Elton, Stephen Branchflower and the Alaska Legislative Council in order to halt the investigation of Governor Sarah Palin and others because the investigators have lost the appearance of impartiality required under the Alaska Constitution…
The investigation, which began after Monegan’s dismissal in July 2008, is being led by outspoken supporters of Barack Obama and members of the Democratic Party. Sen. Elton, the Chair of the Legislative Council donated $2,000 to the Obama campaign but has failed to disclose this to the Legislative Council and he continues to preside over the Council with respect to the investigation, refusing to convene meetings of the Council at the request of a majority of the Council’s membership. Sen. French the investigation “project manager” failed to disclose to the Legislative Council the comments he made on a radio program criticizing the Governor’s conduct regarding the termination of Monegan as “criminal” prior to being appointed as the investigation “project manager” and even prior to a vote to investigate at all. Sen. French also failed to disclose to the Legislative Council that he had a personal bone to pick with the Governor over the Monegan firing because Monegan was a friend and because he had worked closely with Monegan during the 2008 legislative session regarding attempts to include in the state budget items that Governor Palin had vetoed.”
blue – what do you have in mind? by the way, i rarely buy any notion that any single thing will be the thing that destroys…(whatever, fill in the blank). and, as for ms. allred, i see no reason to think letters to the editor in la papers from us or anyone else critical of her (and lord knows, she’s had lots of critics over her life!). that said, i see no reason not to contact the papers to express a point of view. i just don’t expect that any letter i send it going to somehow tip the scales. but, it’s part of my way of participating in a free democracy and having a voice.
669 Anna7000 ,
BLOG TALK RADIO
Maybe we should invite the woman investigative reporter who writes for the cityedition, too. She rocks, big time.
GOSUEF4HIL, thecandypoem,
You rock, I loved your (candy sweet) notes to Howie!
(((GOSUEF4HIL))) (((thecandypoem)))
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/news/columnists/ladies_man_mac_is_a_player_in_ny_129211.htm
McCain in NY-
TOPIC: Gloria Steinem
People keep emailing me Gloria’s editorial (barf), I need a canned reply I can email, anybody got one? Maybe Lynette’s Op Ed mentions it, can’t remember (brain dead today).
Fox reported tonight that Biden, Obama, and Dowd were the senators that had accepted the most money from the Freddie and Fannie lobbyists.
Obama has his nerve to be pointing fingers at McCain.
If you see this in written up in an article, please post the amounts.
678 Anna7000
have no mind
that said – just thinking outloud
hillstheone -
dr. long’s piece was featured on the confluence web site. might want to check the action center and see if you can find it.
also, here’s a link to another extremely thoughtful, articulate piece that also makes an interesting case:
http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/09/09/is-palin-a-law-and-order-candidate-this-veteran-feminist-sure-hopes-so/
then, of course, i’m sure you have your own list of reasons you could state quite well without needing anyone’s help. go for it!
Just saw that McCain suggested Obama is exploiting the financial shape of the country, using it for opportunism..and to raise more funds.
McCain and Palin sat down in a diner with locals after a rally, while Obama was in Bevery Hills for a fundraiser: Barbara Streisand…$30,000 for meal and show.
puke.
How can Obama keep running around complaining about the economy with a straight face? HE’S THE ONE who chose private campaign financing…putting the burden on the public to support him financially.
What has Obama raised so far? Half a billion or what?
Pumas, be very careful when considering the shape of the economy. I know it’s not amazing, but Obama-Media controls so much right now, and I think there is some spin or some exploitation to HELP OBAMA.
hillfan4..
I am in the process of writng a proposal of mine to my state senators and congresspeople concerning schoo,busing for the purpose of integration..
we here in the USA are in a serious deep energy crisis that demnds serious solutions to lessen our dependence on foreign oil and make our country more energy efficient.My proposal is that the USA END all forms of school busing for the purposes of integration and that all students attend the school that is nearest their residence.Nationally this would save an incredible amount of gas,oil and public expenses…it would help our country become more independent..
#661 rather than say the exact city, I’ll tell you I live in the Fox Valley… that’s a collection of cities (Neenah, Menasha, Kimberly, Combined Locks, Little Chute, Appleton, Darboy, Wrightstown, and Kaukauna) that all run one into the other. Chippewa Falls is near Eau Claire (I know because years ago I was a public school teacher in Bloomer) and quite a ways a way (near MN), and Milwaukee is near IL. The Fox Valley is just south of the Green Bay Packers and is in the East-Central part of the state.
@683:
“Barack Obama who is the #2 recipient of lobbying handouts, out of 354 lawmakers, from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (Don’t miss Jennifer Rubin’s excellent post today, “Whoops!“: “The Agent of Change, it seems, didn’t exactly walk the walk on this one.”)”
“While Obama Attacks and Takes Lobbyists’ Money, McCain/Palin Propose Reform”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/15/while-obama-attacks-and-takes-lobbyists-money-mccainpalin-propose-reform/
I found these two great YouTube videos on a another PUMA blog ~ Uppitywoman08.com
This first great video is from the same veteran with just one leg who produced the “Dear Mr. Obama” video that someone posted earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aBNduAyQ4
And this one is very funny, hope you enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URIypadX3n0
Btw, I don’t know who Uppity Woman is but I love her blog …
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
(I certainly hope you pumas know about Penny Pritzker!)
Obama’s Finance Chair, Failed Bank Owner Penny Pritzker And Today’s Wall Street Problem
“You see, while Barack Obama is faking outrage over all the bankruptcies and bailouts, he doesn’t mention that a number of his top ten contributors are from Wall Street, including Goldman Sacs, Lehman and the JP Morgan Chase. He also fails to mention that one of the first subprime lenders to stick it to borrowers and have her bank seized is a woman named Penny Pritzker, who just happens to be Barack Obama’s campaign Finance Chair (as confirmed on April 3, 2008) and a potential Secretary of the Treasury in an Obama administration.”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/16/obamas-finance-chair-failed-bank-owner-penny-pritzker-and-todays-wall-street-problem/
If this was already posted sorry but saw this and wanted to share.. a little interesting (i thought) I’m sure the media will be stupid about it.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/clinton-palin-to-find-common-ground-at-iran-protest/
@ 691:
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/PennyPritzker.htm
#432 Godzilla – I don’t know if you’re still lurking, but here in King County I’ve seen lots of Obot stickers/signs. In the tank for Obot.
#566 – Well said.
TexasTigress: So glad to see you again…power back too…Now, Texas, you know chief among the reasons those people honked that horn is beause every red blooded Texan is going to honk their horn for a naked Texan woman cutting down trees! Go Texas Tigress…How do you make out ?
Texas Tigress: How did you make out..How did you fare after the storm?
just voted for ed oreily i hope enough mass residents do the same but the polling place was deserted there werent any lines and most people dont even know there is an election today (primary)
Hello, Pumas! I just joined. I have been reading PumaPac since just before the conventions, and often wished I could send you information or answer questions I’ve seen other post.
I must be up front with you, I am not a Hillary supporter, but I am anti-Obama and think our country would be heading for a disaster if he were elected. I admire your dedication and focus to prevent O’s election.
Someone asked above about Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac donations to politicians.
Opensecrets.org has the scoop. It lists all of them.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html
I am puzzled … I recognize that polling is not a science … more of an “art” … and I know that polls are done differently ….
but I don’t understand the Gallup showing McCain/Palin losing ground in the past couple of days when they are closing the electorial numbers. Anyone understand this? Some Pumas seem to have experience and expertise in reading the polls.
Here’s a link to some Palin pics from Colorado today. I’m sure you’ll appreciat the second one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2083407/posts
692 slyt2
thanks for bringing that to my attention – sometimes i get tunnel vision and forget to check out what’s happening outside pumapac – and that particular bit of information is important to me.
slyt2 – thanks for posting that link. interesting. be curious to see how it unfolds in the press next week.
puma pal – ugh. i think there are so many factors that go into polling, who can sort it all out. in any case, it’s probably statistically quite possible to be going one direction in the polls (though not dramatically so) and yet be going in another in the electoral college. that’s why, for me, the electoral college map is way more significant than basic poll percentages. also, i follow the iowa electronic market and the other trading markets since those have proven to be far better predictors of outcomes than traditional polls. i’ll be interested to read what other’s think about your poll question….
Why can’t we form “Puma Tipsters” and send the media news from the internet non-stop? They will pay more attention if it comes from many people.
It would be easy, we would get an article and some links in our emails, along with media contact info and just send it off.
I have been LIVID about how Obama is not getting fully vetted in the media and now we have 50 somethin’ days left.
A friend sent me this, written by
Dick Morris
OBAMA AND WOMEN: AN UNHAPPY COURTSHIP
Obama has never gone out of his way to relate to women. Only seven of his top twenty Senate staff positions are filled by women (McCain has thirteen of twenty) and women on Obama’s staff earn 83 cents for each dollar his male staffers are paid. (McCain pays his female staffers $1.04 for each dollar he pays to his men).
From the very first moment Obama entered the presidential race, feminists resented him for trying to stop Hillary from becoming the first woman to be elected president. In the minds of feminists, the fifteenth Amendment (giving blacks the vote) competed with the nineteenth (women’s suffrage) for national attention. Even though women had to wait more than fifty years longer than African-Americans to get the vote, feminists were in no mood to let a black man get elected in place of a white woman, especially if her name was Hillary Clinton.
Clearly the Obama/Clinton race triggered ill feelings among many women and laid the basis for the problems Obama was to have in the general election. He won the nomination by beating a woman and then hoped to capitalize on the votes of women to get elected in November. As the race developed, the elbows got sharper and the rhetoric of both sides seemed to emphasize race and gender more and more. Hillary appealed for the votes of “white working people” while Obama lambasted and ridiculed her defense of guns by calling her “Annie Oakley.”
Although Obama always spoke of Hillary respectfully in public, it was clear to all voters that some ill will had crept into their relationship. After the primaries, Hillary postponed her concession for at least a week as pressure built on her to step aside. For his part, Obama seemed to snub Hillary, passing up opportunities to meet her and doing little to help her raise funds to pay off her campaign debt.
As it became clearer that he was not about to select Hillary for vice-president, the mutual animosity seemed to escalate. Obama made it clear that he would not even consider Hillary for vice president, ostentatiously refusing to vet her or to include her on his short list of candidates.
By early July, even as Obama led McCain in the polls, it was evident that his drawing power among women was dwindling. The downhill progression of that relationship and the steps the Republicans took to hasten its demise, may explain the true turning point of the 2008 election.
Then the McCain campaign pulled off one of the most successful head fakes in modern American politics. Obama had to decide not only whether or not to choose Hillary, but whether to go with another woman, likely Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius. Had he opted for either woman, the odds are that he would have won the election, but McCain out maneuvered him. Through leaks and judiciously planted stories, the McCain campaign convinced Obama and his people that the Republicans were going to nominate a man – Romney, Lieberman, or Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty – instead of Sarah Palin who they had, in fact, been eyeing for the job for weeks and weeks before.
But then the Democrats compounded the error by attacking Palin and doing so on personal, gender based issues, no less. It was a gift to the Republicans even their most sophisticated strategists could not have anticipated. And what was the leading charge against Palin? That her daughter was pregnant and not married!
McCain wisely told the media that Sarah had informed him of the situation before he offered her the job and that he said it would make no difference in his decision. In one stroke, the Democrats undid all the good for themselves they had accomplished in decades of support for welfare, food stamps, day care, rent subsidies, headstart programs, and abortion. By seeming to suggest that a woman should be disqualified because her daughter was pregnant and unmarried was a slap in the face of the tens of millions of Democratic single women voters upon whom the party depended for its fabled gender gap.
Have you all heard what michelle was doing on 9/11??
Turns out she was at a mostly black babtist convention rallying the balck vote for Obama.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/13/michelle-obamas-priorities/
#676 hillfan4mccain said Did you all see James Carville stating Sep 15 will be the day McCain lost the election.
What was his explation for this???? Or was he just rambling?
tec1965: Good job. Do you know what time the polls close?
puma pal.. i heard rasmussen and zogby on the radio discussing the question you ask..
they say that the post convention bounce is finding a new level,thay also said the economy is giving obama some leverage against mccain in the past few days..
they both agree its too close to call now..
Did you all get your Hillary/Bill Clinton email today? Here is the letter:
Dear _________,
If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!
That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.
Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.
Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.
After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.
It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.
Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!
If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!
This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.
Thank you for everything,
Bill Clinton
_____________________________________
Here is my response:
Dear Hillary,
I have been a democrat my entire voting life. The way the DNC broke the rules and dismissed you as a valuable and worthy candidate has made be look closer to who I would like to support come November 4th. I feel both campaigns have done their share of negative ads. Both candidates use rhetoric during their campaigning. So when I sit and give much thought to my decision as to who I feel I can trust as the next President of the United States my gut instincts tell me Senator John Mc Cain is the candidate up for the job. I also believe Governor Palin is more experienced than Senator Obama, and she is ready to step into the oval office if need be.
When you were running against Barrack Obama you told your supporters we could not trust in his lack of experience. You told us he would not be ready to take on the big problems this country will be facing if he would be elected President. You told us he would not be able to take the 3:00 a.m. phone call. You told us he is NOT ready for the oval office. You told us we need someone with experience and a record to prove it. I listened to you and believed in your words. I can NOT dismiss these words of warning and not heed them just because you have decided to stay true to your party, and support a man, you did not trust in or believe to be ready for this job.
The DNC and Barrack Obama were wrong in the way they treated you during the primaries. They were wrong to force you out, they were wrong to disenfranchise your 18 million voters. They mocked you, they disrespected you, they cheated you from your rightful spot on this ticket and if that were not enough, they then snubbed you and overlooked the fact they should have chosen you as Obama’s Vice President.
You were a true inspiration to your 18 million supporters who went to the polls to cast their vote for you. This was your time and the country knew it. Governor Sarah Palin even said she is sure he regrets not picking you. I detest how the liberals and media have attacked Governor Palin and her family. I will never call myself a Democrat ever again. The Democrats have made me ashamed to say I was a part of this party. They have some serious rebuilding of the people’s trust after this election is over. They have taken the democracy out of the party.
For the first time in my adult life, I am proud, to vote Republican.
Regrets,
(One of your 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling, hoping Governor Palin will shatter it.)
Lady
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DsOSThhMYl0
Are all of you aware of Philip Berg’s lawsuit??
I have spoken to him PERSONALLY!!!!!!! He assures everything on his site is legit!!!!!!!!
He says that Obama’s mother on his father’s side, his half sister, and half brother say that BO was born in Kenya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That i can find BO has three birthdays.
8/4/61
8/8/61
4/8/61
The third one is listed on his ORIGINAL school records from Kenya. Which not only list him as an Indonesian citizen, but also list his religion as ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you PUMA’S realize what this means???? Even if BO was born in Hawaii, when his mother moved to Kenya and married Seotoro, she and BO AUTOMATICALLY LOST THEIR CITIZENSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which Berg says BO never reapplied for according to his investigation. Even if he did, he would only be “naturalized” not “natural-born.” Which means he is NOT ELIGABLE to even run for president!!!!!!!!!!!
According to Berg there was NO VETTING OF BO BY THE DNC TO EVEN CHECK HIS ELIGABILITY!!!!!!!!! They just picked him.
We need to ban together and flood the media with email and the DNC to let them know we are watching this lawsuit CLOSELY!!!!!!!!!!
Berg has been granted EXPEDITED DISCOVERY IN THE CASE!!!!!!!!!!
BO and Howard Dean have until Sept. 24th to turn over all aspects of BO’s birth certificate, any adoption papers, any papers published by him clear back to Columbia, his THESIS, senate records, the works!!!!!!!
http://www.obamacrimes.com
Belle-Ma – Wow, what a great letter!
#706BellaMe: Your letter is most impressive! Certainly
appreciate your sending it and sharing it here !
685 Anna7000
hillstheone -
dr. long’s piece was featured on the confluence web site. might want to check the action center and see if you can find it.
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If you’re referring to Dr Long’s latter regarding sexism…
It’s posted at http://www.pumapac.org/sexism.html
#687 osaka puma I am in the process of writng a proposal of mine to my state……….
If you would ever like to share any parts of your proposal, I would love to see it. There are 3 board meetings coming up, I need to get on it. I couldnt agree with you more in regards to the gas used for busing. Its beyond reason. Right now I am so angry with this whole issue. It will put us under. We are already in $$ hardship due to housing market. All savings gone. All we have left is our home and found solice in the investment of our neighborhood for the schools. We have 4 children. If you would like to share any of your ideas my puma email is hillfan4mccainpuma@gmail.com
Thanks
#706 Bella-Me, Great letter!!!
http://www.pumapac.org/sexism.htm
dances – i wasn’t able to open the link. the piece i was thinking of was the one where dr. long makes a case for sarah palin based pretty much solely on the fact that governor palin is female. it was a thoughtful piece, and whether one agreed with her argument or not, i thought it was very well written.
#631 TEXS4HILLARY, Hillary is in DNC’s political prison, she has no choice. The show has to be on until that puppet Obama loses in Nov. Hillary and Bill already suffered a lot, we, the Hillary supporters know exactly what we will do in Nov. I cry every time when the OB camp put Hillary and Bill on the stage to speak for him as if they are the hostages. I swear to god that puppet Obama will get the same treatment when he loses in Nov.
#704 hey puma sf1 yup they close at 8pm eastern time
are u in mass ??
dances – was able to open the reposted link. i think that’s the piece i had in mind, but it’s formatted pretty strangely on the page. it’s very landscape!!!!
email prowl to Dean done.
Was this the only one today?
Happy Birthday Bobram!
#703 slyt2
James was saying McCain did himself in with the economy remark yesterday. That Bo will use that every day now until Nov. in his favor. Never letting us forget.
Then he rambled………….
GREAT LETTER BELLA-ME¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
I do not know what kind of games is hillary & bill playing??????????????
http://www.pumapac.org/sexism.html
It is “hmtl”, I used a different naming convention, but just corrected all the resources sections of the action center to reflect ‘html”
Thank you all….I must say it hurts my soul to have to write that letter. Hillary and Bill are not being true to themselves or their supporters. They have chosen party over country. I feel so betrayed every time I see one of them try to convince us to support NOBAMA.
Speaking of James Carville… did y’all see this?
http://bentcorner.com/2008/08/why-is-james-carville-wearing-pumas/
#692 slyt2 on 09.16.08 at 6:42 pm
If this was already posted sorry but saw this and wanted to share.. a little interesting (i thought) I’m sure the media will be stupid about it.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/clinton-palin-to-find-common-ground-at-iran-protest/
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I think that is great that both women are protesting the head of a children killing, women killing and gay killing death cult appearing at the U.N.
OMG!! This afternoon, not feeling well, I was dozing on the couch when I was suddenly brought wide awake. FOX was on the TV I think it was Cavuto interviewing someone who said he thought someone was attempting to start a race war. The other guy said that we are already in one.
Now that’s just great.
Going back to my earlier theory about the Power “Group’, that is just exactly what their strategy would be if they think the American people are getting wise to their schemes.
Anna7000
Try Dr Long now
http://pumapac.org/sexism.html
Here’s something to make you all laugh
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The Blind Bunny
One morning a blind bunny was hopping down the bunny trail and
tripped over a large snake and fell, kerplop right on his twitchy
little nose.
‘Oh please excuse me,’ said the bunny. ‘I didn’t mean to trip
over you, but I’m blind and can’t see.’
‘That’s perfectly all right,’ replied the snake. ‘To be sure,
it was my fault. I didn’t mean to trip you, but I’m blind too,
and I didn’t see you coming. By the way, what kind of animal
are you?’
‘Well, I really don’t know,’ said the bunny. ‘I’m blind, and I’ve
never seen myself. Maybe you could examine me and find out.’
So the snake felt the bunny all over, and he said, ‘Well,
you’re soft, and cuddly, and you have long silky ears, and
a little fluffy tail and a dear twitchy little nose.
You must be a bunny rabbit!’
The bunny said, ‘I can’t thank you enough. But by the way,
what kind of animal are you?’
The snake replied that he didn’t know either, and the bunny agreed
to examine him, and when the bunny was finished, the snake asked,
‘Well, what kind of an animal am I?’
The bunny had felt the snake all over, and he replied, ‘You’re cold,
you’re slippery, and you haven’t got any balls …You must be a
DEMOCRAT’
Question? I know there has been more talk of Hillary’s support of DONC. One here so wisely said DNC prison. But at what point does this work against her? I have heard from many people, what they like about Hillary was her ‘fight’. Now they dont see her as a fighter anymore. So by her playing the game, getting the vote that turned against her back for future gain. Is she turning off her true supporters?
#697 tec1965 on 09.16.08 at 6:53 pm
just voted for ed oreily i hope enough mass residents do the same but the polling place was deserted there werent any lines and most people dont even know there is an election today (primary)
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That is interesting when you consider it! What if the motivated people getting out the vote today are mostly FOR Ed O’Reilly, and succeed in knocking John Kerry off the ballot! I am gleeful at the thought, having cast my own ballot today for Ed O’Reilly as well!!!
Bill has disappeared again and I think I’m going to take a good hard look at just exactly who Hillary Clinton is. Earlier today, I heard some of the things she was saying about supporting Obama because he represents the Democratic Party now. That’s not the woman I was campaigning for in the primaries.
And if BO represents whatever the Dem Party is now, then I’m not a memeber of either party. They are just two sides of the same game coin.
Loved your letter Belle-me
I believe there are powers that be in the world and they want Obama to be president. They will allow are economy to fail to achieve there objective, hense the sharp market fall yesterday. The worse ox does the worse the economy gets……just my opinion.
BillieJo
Dances,
McCains email : info@johnmccain.com
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Thank you, ma’am
Well! I’m a registered voter in Illinois, and I have a kind of “mistery ” name; Barry Soetero and I’m from Hawaii.
How about y’all?
727 Asian4Hillary LMAO So the bunny was the repub?
what time do the polls close in MA?
osaka puma:
Probably because the failure of Lehman Bros and the drop of the Dow has given BO a new focus – it is all the Republican’s fault the banks are failing and “we” (not him) are in such dire straits.
#732 tennaseepuma
Gas prices always go up before an election, its to help put the repubs in office. Its all a horrible game.
#738 hillfan4mccain, If that is the case…gas has been going up for over three years…dems control congress two of those three!!!
Henry, the polls close at 8, you’ve got time, grab your keys and go cast your ballot!
Nancy Pelosi is now saying the Democrats are not to blame for collapse of Lehman Brothers (Chapter 11) and Merrill Lynch.
The question is this, what the hell the Banking Committee of Democrat lead Congress of Pelosi have been doing?
The Banking Committee is the one to blame controlled by the Democrats. They haven’t done a damn thing to correct the problem. Nancy acting like a prima donna spending taxpayers money out of style with 757 to fly her back and forth to California!
The ONLY reason our economy was good during the Clinton years, the Republicans helped him do it, the democrats were against him especially idiots like Kerry and Kennedy.
#730 Alice1943
I have to agree. I am finding it hard to defend her, I still am defending her. But I’m not believing myself anymore. Maybe I was holding on to the ‘Bill and Hill will pull something out of this’ notion. However they have just faded into Ob-land like the rest.
deadgirlrise
doubt I could make it to MA in16 minutes from PA but I did send him a few bucks last week
Nancy Pelosi is a typical democrat, talk the talk but can’t walk the walk. Now she orders probe on Wallstreet AFTER the fact! It could have been averted if these people think of their country first instead of their freaking wallet!!!!!!
unless something spectacular happen, and i hope it does
hillary has been bashed politically
many of her supporters that i know can not understand why she did not revolt against the thugs???
I hope her legacy will prevail
WELCOME to all the new members and commenters!
Thank you to the inimitable and charming Heidi Li for popping in. Somehow I knew she was from New Jersey.
I love New Jersey!
Alice1943
That BEST thing that ever happened to me when I join millions of independent voters (june 5, 2008).
732 dances – yup. that’s the article and it looks perfect re: formatting! thanks.
It goes way beyond gas prices…….The stock market fell almost 20 points yesterday,upper middle class got hit hard. last night on Fox they said the WORLD BANKS got together and gave us a loan for 70 billion dollars…..how nice.
#743 hillaryistheone
Yes, I know. But that is a known tactic that the repubs have always used. This is a different year. But in the past about 1-2 months before the election gas prices spike. The price goes down after the election. The country believes ‘gas’ is a repub. strength. But as I said this is a different kind of election.
californiagal
Lehman Bros is a big bundler for BO.
REPOSTING LETTER TO THE EDITOR RE: OBAMA AND CAMPAIGN FINANCES, IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS WITH LEHMAN BROS, ETC. SHORT AND SWEET. FREE TO GOOD HOME.
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To whom it may concern:
Senator Obama has a track record of talking about the need to get big money out of politics. Not so very long ago, he was in support of accepting only public financing for his campaign. He boasts of having a “grassroots” organization.
But the facts reveal something quite different from the lofty words. The senator from Illinois declined John McCain’s invitation to agree to accept public financing. And, it appears that the Obama campaign is funded by some of the largest, most powerful multinational corporations in America. He does not raise tens of millions of dollars a month from the little people of his presumably grassroots organization. No. Instead, he is funded by the likes of Lehman Bros, Goldman Sachs, and JP Morgan Chase among countless others.
In this, and so many other ways, Senator Obama appears to speak out of two sides of his mouth, saying one thing, but doing quite another.
How can any thinking person trust this individual? How can anyone truly say what it is that he stands for?
I grew up knowing that actions spoke louder than words and Senator Obama’s actions speak volumes.
Let there be no mistake lest anyone have any doubt, Senator Obama is not fit for the most awesome job of President of the United States and Commander in Chief. He simply can’t be trusted.
Sincerely,
754 Anna7000
i think this may be the email for general mills –
at least from our prowl the other night- this is the return email address on their response i received a few minutes ago -
Corporate.Response@genmills.com
Our United states of america is for sale to the highest bidder thru both political parties……..We have a repub pres and a dem legislature..not good for any of us peons!
733 Asian4Hillary
Rofl.
Just what i needed after the last hour of trying to educate obots.
The reason the price of oil is dropping right now, there’s a DECREASE in DEMAND. The drop in the price of oil is not reliant on US market but WORLD market.
Bella-Me – very strong letter.
At this point, BO’s opponents could recite nursery rhymes and boogie dance instead of giving political speeches, and I would still vote for them, because my goal is to NOT vote for BO. They can’t say anything to sway me–they can’t paint an ugly picture of inadequacy or war mongering. I’m not watching them anymore.
(I know to some that may sound ignorant, which I know I’m not.)
What I am is so royally p…………..d that if they won’t be true to themselves, then I will be true to myself. It is one of those moments of shock when you realize your heroes have been wearing masks all this time. They took my money and my hopes, and laid it down on the altar of the Democratic House of Worship as a sacrifice to their newly appointed god.
So, I’m dishing up a little penance with my vote in November.
thanks, blue. you are such a reliable trooper! i’ll add it to the word doc.
i gotta go lie down. don’t feel so well.
later –
Another reason for that which a lot of people who call themselves “economic expert”, the dollar is GAINING its strength against other currencies especially the Euros.
#653 Rabblerouser on 09.16.08 at 5:54 pm
How come everyone else’s links are in red and mine are in black????
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Once you visit a link, it changes color. Since you’ve already visited your own link, it shows up as the darker color to your computer . . .
#755 tennaseepuma
Agreed. This is some *****d up stuff.
This middle class family got hit long before now. My husband is a sub in construction. We closed our small business of 18years, 9 mos ago. He took a job 4 hours from here and we see him once a month now because of gas prices. We have 4 children and our savings is GONE. We have nothing left other than what we have put into this house (that the bank owns). 4 years ago we were doing well. Now we are borrowing money from the in-laws to survive.
764 Anna7000
please take care -
I returned a email to Bill Clinton tonight, telling him that I am totally disappointed that both he and Hillary are now campaigning for *61. As previously posted, I agree that they are now contrary to all that they stated for over a year in their ‘fight’ for the presidency. Also, why is the “Hillary for President” requesting donations, when Obama said he would help her retire her debt.
As for the Banking Committee, yes, it has been chaired by a Democrat…..Chris Dodd, who also received a very favorable re-mortgage on his two houses from CountryWide. Pelosi is just part of the downsided left wing liberals that are contributing to this fiasco of the financial industry.
#755 cont..
PS we were hoping to re-open our business to get my husband back here. We didnt default on a damn thing so we could re-open one day. Think I can get a bail out? No, not even a loan anymore.
This is an official communication from the Office of Senator John Ensign. Any tampering or alteration of this communication is prohibited and may result in criminal investigation or prosecution.
September 16, 2008
Ms. Sandra Txxxxxxxxx
920 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Las Vegas, Nevada 89169-9360
Dear Ms. Txxxxxxxxx:
Thank you for taking the time to contact me about rising gas prices. I value the opinions of every Nevadan and am always grateful to those who take the time to inform me of their views.
As a Nevadan, I share your frustration regarding the considerable rise in gasoline prices. I agree that oil prices are too high and the United States must become less dependent on foreign oil. An important part of decreasing America’s dependence on foreign oil is to develop alternative fuel sources and increase domestic production in a fiscally responsible and environmentally sensitive way.
To that end you will be pleased to learn that on April 10, 2008, the U.S. Senate successfully passed my bill, the Clean Energy Tax Stimulus Act, that extends incentives to encourage renewable energy. My bill encourages electricity production using renewable energy resources such as geothermal, wind, and hydropower facilities.
In addition to bringing these alternative sources online, it is equally important that we dramatically increase domestic petroleum production and refining capacity. Our domestic production should include oil development on federal lands where I believe that there are areas suitable for further exploration which can be done in an environmentally sound way. In fact, estimates indicate that if President Clinton had not vetoed the drilling of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in 1995 an additional one million barrels of domestically produced oil would be available for the market today. Also, in addition to increasing crude oil production, we need to refine the oil into a consumer product such as heating oil or gasoline.
The United States is blessed with vast oil reserves that remain untapped. The Department of the Interior released a comprehensive inventory of the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) resources in February 2006. That report estimated that there are 8.5 billion barrels of oil ready for extraction with another 86 billion barrels of oil classified as undiscovered resources. This area also contains nearly 30 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, an important fuel source for cars and trucks. Oil shale and oil sands are prevalent in the western states of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. The resource potential of oil shale reserves is estimated to be the equivalent of 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. As a comparison, reserves in Saudi Arabia are only 200 billion barrels of oil.
Unfortunately, the Democrat-controlled Congress has placed a moratorium on exploring ANWR, OCS, and oil shale resources forcing us to import more foreign oil instead of producing it ourselves. While I fully recognize the importance of preserving America’s natural beauty for future generations, I believe that we can open these areas in an environmentally sensitive manner. This would help diversify our sources of crude oil, lessen our dependence on foreign oil, and improve national security.
Conservation and new technologies are another important part of reducing our dependence on foreign oil. In the long run, as more and more cars and trucks are powered by alternative fuels, the demand for oil should decrease. I am pleased with the strides that the automotive industry has made in developing renewable power plants such as hydrogen, electric, and hybrid-powered engines. The automotive industry has also been successful in developing natural-gas-powered engines, which power many fleets of government cars, city buses, and some commercial trucks. With our country’s vast resources of natural gas, I am hopeful that more natural-gas-powered cars and trucks will be made available to consumers. I encourage the automotive industry to continue working to develop these exciting new engines which are vitally important to our long-term national strategy.
You will also be pleased to learn that that, in December, Congress passed the Renewable Fuels, Consumer Protection, and Energy Efficiency Act of 2007 H.R. 6, with my support. This bill included a provision that would raise the national fuel economy standard to 35 miles per gallon by the year 2020. This new standard would be applied to all cars and light trucks. Through this conservation effort, Congress has taken measures that will make cars and trucks more efficient, lowering overall consumption of gasoline.
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me. Please feel free to contact me in the future on matters of importance to you. Should you have any other questions or comments or would like to sign up for my newsletter, please do not hesitate to either write or e-mail me via my website at http://ensign.senate.gov.
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Anna7000 – I wish the media would mention that information regarding BO’s funding sources (perhaps Lou Dobbs would be interested). It is the height of hypocricy for a man who is funded by Oprah and the wealthiest of the wealthy to wag a finger at Wall Street and blame Republicans. There’s an awful lot of very rich Dems.
In Dover on Friday, Sen. Barack Obama did not exactly pledge not to raise taxes on Americans who make less than $250,000 a year. He didn’t say that he wouldn’t raise taxes on you. He said his “plan” wouldn’t.
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“I pledge to you that under my plan, no one making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not income tax, not capital gains tases, not any kind of tax.”
If circumstances change and his “plan” changes, well, all bets are off. But even if Obama sticks to his plan, he’ll have an enormously hard time keeping that pledge. That’s because he has another plan. This one calls for hundreds of billions of dollars in new spending.
►In Dover, Obama makes ‘pledge’ against tax hikes on most Americans (41)
Obama’s own campaign estimates that he proposes $130 billion in new spending. The National Taxpayers Union has done the math and come up with $345 billion. Either way, Obama’s proposed tax increases on people making more than $250,000 a year won’t pay for his new spending. He will have to either cut massive amounts of federal spending, raise taxes or borrow billions — or all three.
There is something else Obama doesn’t mention. His tax increases on the “rich” and corporations are not consequence-free for middle-class Americans. Higher taxes on the wealthy and on businesses mean fewer new jobs for everyone. The same goes for increased government regulations. Obama might not raise taxes on you directly, but his plans to raise taxes and increase regulations are bound to affect you indirectly.
Sen. John McCain, it is worth noting, responded to Obama’s statement by pledging to cut taxes for everyone. That doesn’t suit those who think the wealthy and business owners are enemies of America. But in reality, reducing taxes across the board would be more beneficial for the economy, and thus for all Americans no matter their tax bracket.
Murphy
I emailed you a request for a prowl on NOW, who has apparently become the National Organization of Wimps.
It is a fax, does anyone have an email address?
BOBRAM #503
Action completed! And, I am VERY glad to have that link. I will make use of that BIG TIME. Thank you.
Anna7000 #758
Excellent letter. I will be emailing lots tonight.
NOBAMA should have this now written in BOLD letters in his private jet
HAVE A TELEPROMPTER WILL TRAVEL
Good Evening, Everyone & Murphy
I received the same letter from Bill Clinton. I was surprised to see written on the bottom:
“Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President”.
What does this mean? Could it be that the contributions we made to pay down Hillary’s debt, is now being used for….I can’t even say it!??????????????
greta
Received this email from Cindy Sheehan:
Mondale and Me (More FISA Revelations)
Cindy Sheehan
I was flying back to the states from Kristiansand, Norway, after receiving an award and was flying on the leg from Oslo to London. The flight’s purser pointed out one of my “countrymen” sitting in 2D. I had already been recognized on the flight by the crew because I had won the award and been on Norwegian TV. The purser pointed to seat 2D and told me that it was Walter Mondale.
I looked and did a double take, because he did not look so much like Mondale from about 10 feet away. I was eventually convinced that it was Walter Mondale (Former Senator from Minnesota; Jimmy Carter’s VP, Democratic presidential Candidate in 1984 and Ambassador to Japan during the Clinton administration). So being the shrinking violet that I am, I immediately went to introduce myself.
After we established who I was and that he supported “Nancy” even though I was a “wonderful person,” he looked at me and said: “Boy wasn’t the FISA thing awful?” I said, “Yes, it’s awful and my opponent supported it.” He returned with: “Oh, I don’t think she was really for it.” My last question went unanswered: “Well if she was against it, why would she allow it to go to a vote, as Speaker, and then vote for it, as a member?” Note: On many controversial votes, Pelosi often does not vote, on the FISA Act she voted the wrong way.
Our chat was then over because he said: “Nice to meet you, good luck with everything,” and looked back down at the paperwork he was reading. I had been dismissed for asking a question that has no reasonable answer. Nancy allowed the Act to come to a vote and voted for it, against the wishes of our liberal district, because SHE WAS FOR RETROACTIVE IMMUNITY. Not only are telecoms some of Pelosi’s biggest donors, she has been in on the illegal wiretapping crimes from the beginning. As a member of the Democratic minority leaderhip’s “Gang of Four” with Jane Harman (D-CA), Steny Hoyer, (D-MD), Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), not only was the gang briefed on Bush’s FISA felonies, they were also briefed on torture. There was and is a rightful outcry on the FISA abuses (if the crimes weren’t retroactively legalized, the penalites for breaking FISA laws are steep), but to me, torture is a crime against humanity and, in my opinion, that issue, and lying to a nation about going to war and funding war, are the ones on which the Gang of Four and the Bush Crime Mob should be held accountable.
Ever wonder why “impeachment” has always been inexplicably “off” of Pelosi’s table?” Ever wonder why the most criminal and corrupt administration, in this country’s long and checkered history that is liberally peppered with corruption and violence, is going to walk away and be allowed to live the rest of their lives in relative comfort and ease? Ever wonder why Pelosi’s Congress has an approval rating under double digits? It’s because the twin parties of corruption are the “Lawmakers” and the “Lawbreakers.” How can Mondale credibly say that Pelosi did not “support” the legislation when she voted “Yea?” Did he mean that it is common for one to sell out his/her constituents and his/her principles when money and crime and punishment are involved?
Walter Mondale (a man whom I voted for three times) has been a political insider for generations and would not even broach the subject of accountability with me. Ever wonder why the system was allowed to decay so far that it appears that only a miracle can save it now from total socio-economic destruction?
This nation is in dire straits partially because of blind allegiance to a two-party monopoly (I used to say “duopoly,” but what’s the use?) that only exists to perpetuate itself and the unscrupulous system that supports it. That system built of popsicle sticks and set on a shaky foundation will soon go the way of all Empires unless our “leadership” becomes more responsive to the people’s needs and less concerned with their bank accounts and personal power trips.
“Change” will not come from inside the monopoly. How much more proof do we need?
Vote for true change.
Vote for Cindy.
#417 redtumble on 09.16.08 at 3:33 pm
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When he finishes talking and walks away …
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… saying, “Freedom is always worth the price.”, you then see his left leg is a prosthetic.
Hilfan, I know where your coming from,I think alot of us here are feeling the strain and there is no where to go. My daughter in law (23),woke up blind a little over a year ago,her and my son lost everything when she lost her job,3 days before her health ins was to kick in. My son now is a driver for dominoes so any tips he gets are going right back in gas. They and their 2 little girls 1 and 3 had to move in with us,I could go on and on.
I just realized this post showed up downstairs so I’ll repeat it here and say Hi to all and I’m very happy to finally be here. I was originally from the Hillary Clinton.com blog until the Obots hijacked it and then I found ClintonDems and PUMA. I also volunteered in Providence and Philadelphia during the primaries and got to meet Chelsea. What a beautiful, intelligent young woman, just like her mom.
My first post on here is still in moderation. I live in Norwich, CT and have been a PUMA since June. My teenage daughter registered me so that tells you how great my computer skills are. I was a Democrat and and switched to Independent in July. It was nice to see that there are some CT PUMAS. I hope we can work as a group to change this state red. I feel like I’m in OBville here. My family will be voting McCain/Palin. We vote country first. Obama is an insult to all Americans who care for this country and he is too dangerous and scarey to be anywhere near the White House. His remarks about asthmatic children made me see red since my daughter has asthma and doesn’t his older daughter have asthma and was hospitalized when she was little. His dislike of regular folk, small-town, hard-working, women, men children, babies: take your pick, we’re all under the bus. Anyway, glad to finally be posting. I have done some prowls and written on other blogs.
Bobram – happy birthday – it’s mine too! Sorry I didn’t read your message before you left for your party – hope you had fun.
Welcome Susan5!!! Glad to have you with us.
759 Blue Blue Gal 754 Anna7000
i think this may be the email for general mills -
at least from our prowl the other night- this is the return email address on their response i received a few minutes ago -
Corporate.Response@genmills.com
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Got it … will add.
Anna7000
Dr Lynette Long’s letter and defense of Gov. Palin are in teh Sexist section of the Action Center.
Formatted.
Hapy Birthday scarolina and Bobram!
How come I had to log in after having been on here all day??? My new password is about 20 characters long. I could paste it in this time, but geez, how about next time.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105455&page=1
782 scarolina
happy birthday to you
happy birthday to you
happy birthday dear puma
happy birthday to you!!!!!
#780 tennaseepuma on 09.16.08 at 8:06 pm
First let me say how sorry I am for your daughter in law. I was in an accident which left me disabled unable to hold a job. My husband made a good living so my condition didnt hurt ($$) us. It is all so fragile, my heart goes out to your son and his wife. Thank God they have you to help them. But its horrible that making a living just to survive is so hard and heart breaking.
what is going on with each state “official recognition” of the candidates????
is each state sort of supposed to give “security clearence” on each candidate????
John McCain
Remarks
Vienna, OH
September 16, 2008
John McCain: “We’ve seen a telling moment in this campaign today. Senator Obama saw an economic crisis, and he’s found a political opportunity. My friends, this is not a time for political opportunism; this is a time for leadership.
“Too often, we hear people say America’s in decline. I reject that. I believe America’s best days are ahead of us. Governor Palin and I are going to reform Wall Street. We’re going to reform Washington. I’m going to fight for you, and I’m going to lead our nation forward in the greatest periods of prosperity in its history.
“And let’s have some straight talk. Senator Obama is not interested in the politics of hope, he’s interested in his political future and that’s why he is hurling in insults and making up facts about his record.
“Today, he claimed that the Congressional stimulus package was his idea. That’s news to those of us in Congress who supported it. Senator Obama didn’t even show up to vote.
“He talks a tough game on the financial crisis, but the facts tell a different story. Senator Obama took more money from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac than anyone but the chairman of the committee they answer to, and he put Fannie Mae’s CEO, who helped create this problem in charge of finding his Vice President. That’s not change, that’s what’s broken in Washington.
“He talked about siding with the people, siding with the people, just before he flew off to Hollywood for a fundraiser with Barbara Streisand and his celebrity friends. Let me tell you, my friends, there’s no place I’d rather be than here, with the working men and women of Ohio. I’m going to fight for you and together we’re going to win in November.”
#781…Welcome Susan5…many if us are from the old Hillary site. CT may be hopelessly for BO, but it’s important that we get out there and vote.
781 Susan5
so glad you found your way upstairs and welcome !
Oh, brother!
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/689044.html
Sebelius: ‘Code language’ hindering Obama campaign
Posted on Tue, Sep. 16, 2008
By NIGEL DUARA
Associated Press Writer
IOWA CITY, Iowa — Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius said Tuesday that a belief among some voters that Democrat Barack Obama is different from them is hindering his campaign for president.
Asked at a brown-bag lunch at the local library why the campaign is neck-and-neck, Sebelius said “code language” raising doubts about Obama is invalid because his life experience “has a lot more to do with me and my family.”
“I think that the notion that, ‘By the way, have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African American?’ I think that is for a number of people difficult,” Sebelius said. “I think we need to talk about the fact that that is a real issue.”
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Hey, isn’t it racist to call it a “brown bag lunch”?
790 storytellers
i’m a liitle slow tonight – slyt2 gave me a recipe the other night so i am busy with that –
i am not understanding your question.
Happy Birthday to Bobram!
Happy Birthday to scarolina!
Happy Birthday to all September 16 pumas!
Im not looking for sympathy,but Im here because I believe that Barack Obama is not the man to be president if we are to take back our country and party.
#749 henry on 09.16.08 at 7:44 pm
deadgirlrise
doubt I could make it to MA in16 minutes from PA but I did send him a few bucks last week
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LOL Henry!
Thanks for helping us out here, I cast my ballot for Ed for you and all the other PUMA who contributed to Ed’s campaign in whatever capacity that they could! Democrats working together for a common goal, now this gives me HOPE! (but not the dopeyhopeychangey kind)
well well well, Obama did NOTHING today but criticize the idea of creating a commission and producing a report and information regarding the financial crisis.
Obama is a do-nothing.
blue blue gal
thank you
I understood that after the conventions, each state has to validate each candidate in order to put them in the ticket
and this validation somehow has to be similar to a security clearence, and it should be done sometime soon
does anyone knows about him
blue blue gal
thank you
I understood that after the conventions, each state has to validate each candidate in order to put them in the ticket
and this validation somehow has to be similar to a security clearence, and it should be done sometime soon
does anyone knows about it??????
After seeing this clip from Iron Jawed Angels and what women went thru for the right to vote, I’m very disappointed Hillary did not stand up for herself. I have lost a lot of respect for both her and Bill Clinton asking us to support someone they know is unqualified.
http://www.blinkx.com/video/iron-jawed-angels-force-feeding-scene/c0KqmZvssXxXixW9_JIOvg
Susan5 #781 and CTKEY #792
Hello, from Litchfield County !!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HERE IS THE EMAIL I JUST FROM BIG DOG.
If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!
That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.
Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.
Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.
After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.
It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.
Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!
If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!
This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.
Thank you for everything,
Bill Clinton
#803…Hello Lizzy. I’m from Fairfield county ! There are a few of us PUMAs from CT.
#673 YesSheCan on 09.16.08 at 6:14 pm
Obama campaign headquarters singing “One Day More” from Les Mis. I used to really like that song.
They look like brainwashed zombies, fighting the “revolution”. Funny and creepy at the same time.
Actors playing McCain and Palin come in at about 2:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ijYVyhnn0
These kids are going to need some serious de-programming in November. Anyone looking for a new job should consider that field. BIG BUCKS!
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Holy crapcakes Batmat, the One is really in deep sh!t if this represents his followers…notice most are young, white boys. We have a name for them, BOTS!
Oh well:
Kerry Bests 1st Primary Opponent in 24 years
By Associated Press
BOSTON – September 16, 2008 – Sen. John Kerry has fended off his first Democratic challenger in nearly a quarter century, handily defeating political newcomer Ed O’Reilly.
O’Reilly had tried to make Kerry’s 2003 vote authorizing President Bush to launch military action against Iraq a central issue in Tuesday’s primary.
But the Gloucester attorney was unable to gain traction against Kerry, who’s held the same seat since 1984. He was the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee just four years ago.
Kerry will face Republican Jeff Beatty, a former CIA official and member of the Army’s Delta Force, in the November general election.
BOBRAM, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. MANY MORE OF THEM.
I just sent my list of concerns for investigation at Dateline:
The American people need to see unbiased reporting on the following subjects:
Obama’s connections to Retzko, Ayres/Dohrn, other Chicago persons of questionable character, Black Liberation Theology, ACORN, Obama Camps and his Public Allies Program,The Berg Lawsuit, The Alinsky Method of Community Organizing (the handbook by Saul Alinsky dedicated to Lucifer),The Obama Lies and Flip-flops, His and Biden’s gaffes, Obama’s purged records for birth certificate, college and Harvard transcripts,
Illinois Senate voting records, his previous elections for state and federal office, his earmarks for donors,The Annenberg Challenge Program (for schools in Chicago)to mention a few.
684 hillstheone
Dr Long’s Op-ed piece (and her incredible letter!):
posted at the Puma PAC Action Center:
http://www.pumapac.org/sexism.html
801 storytellers
in my state there is in position a process – and i imagine each state has a similar scenerio – that only requires the party to provide the name of the pres and vp to the secretary of state 70 days prior to the election . in my states’ election code there is nothing about security.
#677 Kempion on 09.16.08 at 6:18 pm
Ok, so WHY did California pass?
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Which version do you want?
1- It got so confusing to count to a little over 400 when some were called back to their state by Arnold for the budget.
2- They didn’t want to embarrassed Hillary.
3- Some woman wanted fame by calling it.
4- Someone that wasn’t a delegate jumped up and made the decision.
Who knows.
Russia halts trading after 17% share price fall
By Catherine Belton and Charles Clover in Moscow and Rachel Morarjee in London
Published: September 16 2008 15:07 | Last updated: September 16 2008 19:11
Russian shares suffered their steepest one-day fall in more than a decade on Tuesday, losing up to 20 per cent, as a sharp slide in oil prices and difficult money market conditions triggered a rush to sell.
The heads of the Russian central bank, the finance ministry and the financial market regulator met on Tuesday night for an emergency discussion on ways to halt the crisis.
Earlier, trading had been suspended on both the Micex and RTS stock exchanges as investors ignored assurances by Russian officials and a cycle of distrust set in amid liquidity fears.
Margin calls forced domestic traders to liquidate positions and brokers pulled credit lines. At least one Moscow bank failed to meet payments.
The rouble-denominated Micex Index closed 17.75 per cent down, the sharpest one-day drop since the August 1998 financial crisis, while the dollar-denominated RTS index closed down 11.47 per cent, its lowest lvel since January 2006.
Interbank money market rates climbed to 11 per cent, their highest since a mini-banking crisis in summer 2004.
Chris Weafer, chief strategist at Uralsib investment bank: “We’re in completely uncharted territory where the prevailing emotion is of fear and numbnes. No one knows where this could stop”.
Alexei Kudrin, finance minister, insisted that the financial system was not in a systemic crisis but the central bank injected a record $14.16bn in one-day funds into the money market.
The finance ministry also placed an additional R150bn ($5.8bn) in one-month deposits into the banking system. Konstantin Korishchenko, central bank deputy, told Russian news agencies that the bank and the finance ministry could provide a total of $117.6bn in liquidity to the banking sector.
But market players said banks were ceasing to lend to second and third-tier companies and brokers were pulling credit lines. KIT Finance, big Moscow investment house confirmed rumours that it had been unable to make payment on a series of short-term loans.
It said: “In connection with the fact that a series of our clients did not meet their obligations to our bank, we have not met our obligations to our counterparties.
“We recognise our responsibility to our counter-parties and to the market and we are working intensively to resolve the situation.”
Andrei Sharonov, managing director of Troika Dialog, a Moscow investment bank, and a former deputy economic minister, said: “This is a vicious circle,” said , .
“It is a situation of total mistrust. The liquidity crisis is being caused by a crisis of confidence in which people are frightened to borrow and frightened to lend.”
Shares in Russia’s biggest state-controlled banks led the slide with Sberbank, the state-controlled savings bank, closing 21.72 per cent down and VTB losing 29.26 per cent. The bank was suffered on investor fears about its securities portfolio, which makes up about 10 per cent of its assets.
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Ain’t that a kick in the head. USA is the biggest economy in the world, we sneeze, the world market suffers pneumonia. Think of investment of China with Lehman Brothers…..ouch! ouch!
I remember when this happened before in the 80’s. I wonder what country got hit this time, I mean got hit real hard with bankcruptcy of Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch sold to Bank of America. I am sure their portofolios dropped for billions to millions.
scarolina
happy birthday to you
happy birthday to you
happy birthday to you!!! (i’m dueting again)lol
Blue, how’s it going ?????
Did anyone watch Bill O tonite
#681 hillstheone on 09.16.08 at 6:23 pm
669 Anna7000 ,
BLOG TALK RADIO
Maybe we should invite the woman investigative reporter who writes for the cityedition, too. She rocks, big time.
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Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Someone over their really knows a lot of dirt about Obama or is a pretty good guesser!
#797 tennaseepuma
Same here, on the same page with you!
You know, everyone has the right to feel however they feel. But, for those people who lost all faith in Hillary clinton, I ask you, what was she supposed to do? She had the ENTIRE NY congressional delegation call her up and tell her she had their support til the last moment of the primary but that moment was the night of South Dakota. Do you HONESTLY think that with the tide that turned in those days and weeks, that her elected officials were just going to stand by her at their own peril? I think not.
What do you think would have happened? All the leaders who stood by her would have jumped ship and it would have been her and Bill, that’s it.
So, for all those people who’ve lost respect because Hillary didn’t play it out to convention, because Hillary didn’t make a Shakesperian tragedy out of it (because that’s what it would have been) will you not support her in anything she ever does again? Are you so pious in your intimate knowledge of the position that she was put in or not or of her own judgement that you’ve truly lost all respect?
do you really think Hillary clinton would win third party? Would she even want to be a third party? The democratic party for good and bad is her home.
Despite everything that happened, and yes, I am very very angry. What the HELL else was she supposed to do?
I’ve not lost respect for the Clinton’s, I’ve lost respect of many other people, the process of choosing our nominee, the DNC chair, many many people. But just because Hillary decided not to become a shakesperean tragic character, does NOT make me lose respect for her, but I have NO respect for pious people who are so flippant about their politics as to throw the person they claimed to follow under the bus with I’ve just lost all respect for her.
Wasn’t it Japan who took the hit the last time this happened in the eighty’s
#781 Susan5 on 09.16.08 at 8:06 pm
Susan5, what did Obama say about kids with asthma?
O’Riley just read emails he received, one guy saying Obama had a false BC, etc… O’Riley said that is not true, don’t believe everything you see on the net.
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I see someone posted something about the Berg law suit, and last we heard the judge did not even sign it as of yesterday.
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holy toledo !!! lol lol lol
following your suggestion – 1 per hour -
1 at 7, 1 at 8, then start new hour – 1 at 8…..with cheesecake for dessert …
This is absolutely STUNNING, the insight Senator McCain showed back in 2005, predicting what was going to happen to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac three years ago! In 2005 John McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005. The bill was never passed and was shot down largely by Democrats and some Republicans in Congress. Senator McCain addressed the floor on May 26th, 2006 and this is what he said:
Sen. John McCain [R-AZ]: Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
Quick Info
S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Last Action: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.
Status: Dead
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/16/john-mccain-supported-a-proposal-for-an-agency-to-oversee-fannie-and-freddiein-2005/
Obama lies about creating the stimulus package
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/obama-i-created-the-stimulus-plan-psst-he-missed-the-vote/
OMG that was too powerful. I could not take it and had to shut it off. INCREDIBLE.
Hillary is not fighting hard enough. I agree. I think she could do a little more. I wish she would stop supporting Obama.
I am proud to be a PUMA. We have the correct answer. Hillary should listen more closely to PUMA.
Do not watch this movie unless you are prepared for some strong stuff. Too much for me.
Love is giving FREEDOM. When you control someone or force them then it is NOT Love. I can not take some scenes of Non Love. They rip me up inside too much. I like sitting in a place of love and peace.
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After seeing this clip from Iron Jawed Angels and what women went thru for the right to vote, I’m very disappointed Hillary did not stand up for herself. I have lost a lot of respect for both her and Bill Clinton asking us to support someone they know is unqualified.
http://www.blinkx.com/video/iron-jawed-angels-force-feeding-scene/c0KqmZvssXxXixW9_JIOvg
#821 Blue Blue Gal BURN BABY BURN.. Yes for sure.But Yummy….
Anyone watching Hannity and Colmes??? It looks like it could be good. Is tonite the nite he interviews Sarah Palin?
#819 deadgirlsrise, listen to the Oboy genius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno
#819 deadgirlsrise on 09.16.08 at 9:01 pm #781 Susan5 on 09.16.08 at 8:06 pm
Susan5, what did Obama say about kids with asthma?
Gov. announces $85 billion loan to save AIG
There goes more of our tax money
747 Asian4Hillary Wellllll….. they DID take a 5 week long vacation.:P
#807 antifish on 09.16.08 at 8:46 pm
Thanks for the update Anti, I guess I will mark that part of my ballot “red” for sure. John Kerry has got to go!!!!!!!
(funny thing though, in Massachusetts, the Democratic Ballot has a red top, while the Republican Ballots are quite blue at the top)
794 Grizzly
Here we go again, the old race thingy. Hasn’t anyone told them lately that BO is different: he wasn’t elected, he was selected by a corrupt Dem party?
It has nothing to do with his white mother and his black father.
#312 Girlsrule: Meant to welcome you to this site the other day. I like your name and your attitude. I’m a center to left Dem and have no qualms in crossing party lines for a good, moderate candidate when faced with a candidate that is further left than I’d EVER be. I think partisanship is ridiculous and a threat to our country. Sure, we can have differences, but keep it real!
143 SouthJerseyPuma
“And as I responded to you, since you are not woman/man enough to say who you are,”
I thought you posted the comment under “anonymous” to protect their identity! I didn’t realize they had psoted as “anonymous”! That’s chicken-s***
So who gets the stimulus this time? Boy, those printing presses must get HOT!!!!
I tried to rent Iron Jawed today from Blockbuster and they said they did not carry it in stores so I went online and was told there is a long wait possibly months. Checked my cable company and they said they were not offering that particular movie at this time!WTF?
#822 Girlsrule-PS. Great info on McCain’s reform work.
Yep, I never got a job from a poor person either.–Hannity
825 slyt2
been eating between recipe suggestions – so, having had many years of preperation for tonight, am in pretty good shape – , however, smart enough to follow instructions – and bottle put away. will continue with usual recipe for evenings – captain and coke.
open bar here in texas for anyone showing up tonight – within the next 120 minutes!!!!!
#826 mick on 09.16.08 at 9:06 pm
#819 deadgirlsrise, listen to the Oboy genius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno
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Geez, seems almost like he was high as a kite or something to flub that up so bad. He was literally unable to articulate much more than dithering gibberish!!! All out of whack… something not right with him that day for sure!
Hi Lizzy, CT Key and all CT PUMAS.
Thanks for the welcome, antifish.
Mick, I watched the utube with BO talking about Healthcare costs and how one of the things that could reduce costs would be not to hospitalize children who come in with asthma attacks. He said that they just need a little medicine from the machine that he couldn’t think of the name (what else is new) and said that hospital beds didn’t need to be taken up by these cases. His own daughter has asthma and has had attacks. What an idiot!! This is the first time I feel really afraid for our nation if someone like BO wins the election. Such a crook and would sell this country down the river in a heartbeat. I am also hesitant about putting out a McCain/Palin yard sign or wearing a button. I want to volunteer, but I don’t know if they will be using the Rep. office near me. It wasn’t listed. My parents served in WW2 and 3 cousins served in Vietnam so my family has always been country before party.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/09/17/The-Nocturnal-Warrior
No Quarter radio on now…
National Organization for Women PAC Endorses Obama-Biden
STATEMENT OF KIM GANDY
Chair, National Organization for Women Political Action Committee (NOW PAC
Ewwwwwwwwww I’m glad they don’t get any more of MY money!
#838 deadgirlsrise on 09.16.08 at 9:18 pm
Lol This is what happens when he’s without a teleprompter.
#827 tillerylakelady – Can we prowl the Congress bums to go without pay for 2 years given that BHO says he does not believe “Economy is fundamentally strong”?
Is this not something that should be truely bipartisan and caring?
My definition of change – BHO should point to at least 10 lobbyist that can refund to the tax coffers amounts that equals the bailouts done for AIG for example?
If this can be done and no one in DC talks about it, I wish cupcake aka BHO can visit the 58th state that he has not visited yet!
Instead of this what is BHI doing today – Rocking with Barbara Streisand – Perhaps holding her hips and giving her a kiss. What does he get in return – 28 to 33 grand ticket and food that includes Caribou meat???
Hello PUMA PAC!
Hi Maryland, missed you. What have you been up to?
#766 Bluejay on 09.16.08 at 7:55 pm
Thanks for the tech advice – should have known that, duh…
844 Maryland PUMA
welcome home !!!!!!
If I were born to Sarah Palin, my name would be:
Stinger Assassin Palin
Ever wonder, What would your name would be if Sarah Palin was your mother? Well now you can find out!
http://politsk.blogspot.com/
asian4….
hang on for the roller coaster ride… oil prices are being manipulated now and after the elections they will jump right back up there again and start to go back up… china,india and the developing 3rd world nations are trying like hell to catch up with us
I swear, I think I have hit my end with this blog… This place has become wayyyyyy to pro-Republican, not pro-Mccain but pro-republican. It has become way tooo anti-Hillary.
I just have one question. Given the fact that Hillary is working for major and minor candidates up for re-election. Given the fact that SENATOR Hillary Rodham Clinton is in serious contention to be the Senate Majority Leader NO MATTER WHAT THE OUTCOME, given the fact that Hillary decided to play the game to keep herself in contention for 2012 or any other political future she wants, WHAT THE FU-K do you want her to do now?
WE CAN PROTEST. WE CAN VOTE THIRD PARTY. WE CAN PROWL ON THE DEMOCRATS. WE CAN DO EVERYTHING TO REFORM OUR PARTY BUT I AM STUNNED BY SUPPOSED DEMOCRATS who watch videos that have NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and decide that she just isn’t tough enough but yet will go licking their chomps for Palin. Let me tell you someting about Palin. Palin has less than 1/4 the campaign requirements that Senator Clinton had simply because she will have two months to campaign.
I am a Democrat. I am protesting the 2008 election. But, I’m not running the republicans and I’m CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO SUGGEST THAT SINCE HILLARY DECIDED TO LIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY RATHER THAN FIGHTING TO THE DEATH THAT SHE IS NOT WORTHY OF MY RESPECT. I believe all you people need a cinema hero rather than a real person who is a champion for you. HONESTLY, what else was she supposed to do? Hillary clinton is alive to fight another day and when she picks that day and that battle, I will be there with her. Until that time, I’m going to do the damn best that I can to reform my party, to keep the neo-libs out, to reform platform, to really reach out to young voters on issues and platform that really impacts their lives rather than on some lofty speech that means nothing.
McCain slams Obama for taking credit for the stimulus package
Hey maryland Puma, was anybody watching Hannity and Colmes I was LMAO, they had Nancy Pelosi daughter on oh lord like Mother like daughter (got her head up BO’s….)anyhow her and hannity were going back and forth and she wasn’t making any sense and she kept talking he interrupted her and said what was coming on next she was still talking and in the middle he went to a commercial LOL!!!
Oh Blue do you hear that the bottles crying (get me, I’m scared I’m lonely in here…..
Wow, so glad to be back online. I was having Puma Pac withdrawals. Hurricane Ike sucked. Got my power back today. yay! Looks like I missed quite a bit.
I’ve missed you too!
It would be easier to ask me what I haven’t been up to! LOL
College started for me three days after Denver (and I hadn’t bought my books yet!) and my daughter started school two days after Denver. I’ve already had two quizzes and I have a test tomorrow and one on Monday. I’m still working at the college as a federal work study student 15+hours a week – this Fall has been their largest enrollment in the history of the college (community) and it’s been supremely busy in the registrar’s/student services office where I help out. Also had to get the house and yard work caught up and give the cub some loving. I spent 12 hours enroute to Denver and 12 returning so jet lag caught up with me too! LOL
I go 25+ boxes of the PUMA gear delivered about a week later. I’ve been trying to figure out where we shoved everything when we packed up and get it straightened out so we can offer it to those who couldn’t go. I just sent Murphy the pics yesterday.
Tonight is the first night I haven’t been innundated with reading or writing and falling asleep at the helm.
Hi pumas! Apologies if this was already posted but I just came across this veeeeery interesting article. Apparently BO is suing the MI repugs claiming voter disinfranchisement. Pffft – if I lived in MI, I think I’d be wanting BOTH of these two parties to just get the he$$ away from my voting rights, period.
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/09/obama_dnc_file_lawsuit.html
http://www.hotmoviesale.com/store/productView.aspx?idProduct=18203&ec=1&ProdID=39&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=cpc&ysmwa=RiyHQAbK92C7TE6sCGCyvZLjYjcVBxC_RztCDz0_ERv6t3d6Z2-IDZbCX2w1DbJ6
You can purchase Iron Jawed Angles for $4.90 with free shipping. Better than a rental. I want to watch it but you were first to look.
Good luck I hope you get a copy.
Go Hillary Go
826 Mick – because of bad weather in Ohio, the interview was delayed one day. It will be shown Wednesday and Thursday.
Hi, Puma Pac! Please see my intro posts at 700 and 702.
Don’t know if this was posted earlier or not (I’ve been off-line for awhile and now will be going over to the McCain blog as usual), but I just saw that the newest PA poll is TIED!!!
By the way, McCain is going to be in Green Bay thursday. I hope to pick up a ticket tomorrow to go. The lady who called me about it (from MI) had never heard of PUMA when I mentioned it to her, so I explained it to her. If I can get over to the Victory Center for a ticket tomorrow I’ll be sure they’ve heard about PUMA’s too; also at the rally if I can make it there thursday.
thanks gohillarygo, I hope this movie will fill your need for a cinema hero and I hope all of you people will be able to differentiate between the film and modern reality.
See this synopsis of Iron Jawed Angels:down left side
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Iron+jawed+angels%3A+in+1917%2C+the+U.S.+went+to+war+to+save+democracy+in+…-a0113301398
Good night Pumas,
I’m so sick of these government bailouts of huge corporations. If the freaking Congress had been enforcing anti-monopoly laws all along, one corporation going under would not be a threat to the entire US economy.
I wish we could throw all the incumbents out. That would send a message. Unfortunately, as we saw in Massachusetts today, people are content to vote for the same old crap over and over and then wonder why nothing ever changes. It’s all so pathetic.
dem4hillary..
do you suggest that we keep our mouths shut and not say anything critical of hillary or something positive about governor palin..??
i read here before that “it’s not about hillary any more.it’s about our country”.. yet there are some here who in respect to hillary…”hear no evil, speak no evil,see no evil”..and seem to be looking for any excuse to boot people they don’t agree with..
is intolerance what PUMA stands for?
Obama sidesteps reform in Illinois
For those of you who still cling to the fantasy that Barack Obama is “about change,” you should note how he, or his minions, want nothing to do with reforming politics in Illinois, perhaps the most corrupt state in the Union.
“Throughout his political career, Barack Obama has fought for open and honest government,” proclaims his campaign Web site. Apparently, no longer. When the Democratic presidential candidate—now his party’s industrial-strength voice for our deliverance from political corruption everywhere—was asked by a reformer if he would help get his political mentor back home to get off the dime and move the most minimal of state ethics legislation toward passage, the Obama campaign sent word back that amounted to a “no.”
continue reading: http://countusout.wordpress.com/
852 slyt2
leave them right out here with me, don’t want them to get scared and turn to vinegar !!!!!!!!
MURPHY,MURPHY please remove my post at #816….This sight is in the tank for Obama. Sorry Pumas I should have researched more before I posted it.
Reminder:
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osaka,
I personally have NO POWER TO BOOT ANYONE. I’m merely suggesting that a f-ing movie has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton.
what would you have her do Osaka? What would you have her do since say south Dakota? I mean, what? You have to have allies, period. You have to. The superdelegates would have made DAMN sure she didn’t win a floor fight. They would have also ended all future possibilities for her. No, it’s not about Hillary but it sure as hell ain’t about some damn movie either.
Im just a user here, just like you so don’t go accusing me of booting anyone!
#850 Dem4Hillar- I am hopeful you will stay, please keep in perspective what has happened over the past 9 months and with only 2 months to go, we need to do everything we can to defeat Nobama.
And just because some people express disappointment in Hillary, doesn’t mean they don’t support her.
I couldn’t count how many times I have been disappointed w/ my husband or kids but would fight for them to the bitter end.
This allows us a place to express our emotions- our wide array of emotions.
I think it is like church- I don’t necessarily believe but I get something out of it- take the good from here and ignore what you don’t like.
For instance (BRAGGING NOW!) because of the info I got on this blog today- I contacted the Senate Ethics committee re: the Logan Act, I contacted NOW by phone b/c the # was posted, I contacted MSNBC to ask for better coverage of BO, I e-mailed Howard Dean. Because of my association w/ this blog, on my own today, I wrote the NYT in disgust, I sent back my snail mail donation request to the DNC, ripped up my bumper sticker I got from them and sent an e-mail back to Bill CLinton.
Not to mention, 2 friends called asking about info (both are Republicans and I am better informed than they!).
Anyway, stick around and tolerate us. Or, there are other places to go where there is just as much dissent against the Republicans. But please, allow us this safe place to express our emotions.
858 KarenWI
There are various flyers and documents at the PUMA PAC ACtion Center that you may want to print out and distribute while there.
850 Dem4Hillary on 09.16.08 at 9:29 pm
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My advice to you, having been at one time or another where you seem to be right now with regards to this blog — just take some time away. Just walk away for a while, gather your own thoughts, don’t even think about it for a while. Chances are pretty good that you’ll come back with a whole new point of view and a different sense of what exactly you want to get out of being a part of this blog. Or you may just find that it’s not the place for you. I hope not.
This has been a long, long slog through some of the ugliest politics imaginable. It can wear on us all, wear us down, and plain old wear us out emotionally and even physically.
Just walk away for a while, friend. We’ll understand.
UMM quick question for anyone, I noticed that everytime McCain gives a speech you see Cindy right by his side or right behind him, when you see Sarah Palin you see her husband Todd most of the time, I’ve seen a couple times Joe Biden and his wife… But never Michelle what’s up with that???She doesn’t campaign with him at all!!
*869…. give me the link again to that site and where I can print out some stuff to hand out. I want to go prepared to ADVERTISE for PUMA (if I can get a ticket and get there!)…
I posted that previous comment from Bill Clinton because that’s the first correspondance I’ve gottem from “him” in a while and its about Hillary continuing to stand up, well really it’s just a request for funding for Hillary but it’s appealing to her voters and I think it’s clear there is a distinction between Clinton and Obama.
IT’S also politics. They are NOT ralph nader. They aren’t going to run against the grain just because.
#850 Dem4Hillary on 09.16.08 at 9:29 pm
Den4Hillary said:
“I swear, I think I have hit my end with this blog… This place has become wayyyyyy to pro-Republican, not pro-Mccain but pro-republican. It has become way tooo anti-Hillary.”
For what it’s worth, I agree with you about what you said about Hillary. I think what she’s doing is a smart move to position herself for 2012. However, I don’t think this blog is a “pro-Republican blog”. I think many peeps here are tolerant of other views … and IMO, that’s a good thing.
I think some people may be going through an anger phase with Hillary but they will get over it at some point.
Michele has been hidden since nobama went to europe, they must be afraid she will screw up again. I woild have loved to seen her face when McCain announced Sarah as his running mate! MO is probably being taught how to act and dress.
844 Maryland PUMA
Hello PUMA PAC!
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She livesssssssssssssss!!!
Great, great, great to see you!
#856
I went to the site for purchase of Iron Jawed, but did not purchase the one copy, even tho the book came with free shipping and a $5discount. I do not give my credit card online, especially to a company link I don’t know. I was just curious. Hope someone above who wanted it did get it.
So O’Reilly says that (1) BO’s birth cert is legit, and he was born in Hawaii, and (2) his parents were married.
Hello Maryland I thought you went republican on us..roflmao.Its good to see you.
dem4hillary.. i dont understand your hostility towards other pumas who don’t see or share your exact viewpoint on things..
there are some of us here who do not go around broadcasting what they did to support hillary during the primaries ..we know what we did..so please stop the hostile tone..
I would like to think were all here to NOT let obama seize control over the presidency..so please don’t lose sight of this ..we are all in that same boat..
by the way I DID NOT ACCUSE YOU..so please dont make stuff up..thanks
#864 Tennaseepuma
I deleted your comment as requested.
Im not fond of Mo. And I usually don’t engage. But realy do we have to stoop to name calling?
871 slyt2 Umm, er, well, uh….cuz she makes him look BAD???
874 re MO
MO didn’t show for the 9/11 ceremony, said it was her kids first week at school and she needed to be home for them. However, she appeared on the campaign trail on 9/10 and 9/11 (away from home), I forget where. Maybe someone else remembers.
Atypical thank you for the info,but I found it at another movie rental place(hollywood).
#862 osaka puma on 09.16.08 at 9:37 pm
and dem4hillary –
Hang on dem4hillary – I am a nobody but would like to say this –
Oblah blah has brought such division in the country that has enabled PUMA and JSND become a focal point of true hope. A lot of diversity exists here and hence it is not 100% HRC. Given that Bill Clinton letters keep coming about voting the precious in, there are situations when not all of us agree. I have not agreed with bluejay and ladyhawkke but they provided me stuff that I could do my homework on. Henerietta offered to help me on an article I am ready to pen dowm (no, it is not ‘Memoirs of my South Asian father and I kick his ass’ – it is about Social Political and Monetary America in challenging time). I haven’t seen any PUMA in person but all the posts make me feel we have to put aside our indifference and move forward with the most honorable mission of NOBAMA, NoWay.
Beyond Nov 4th of course there are a lot of stuff PUMA need to address (education, personal responsibility – as simple as looking back at your 401K and re-allocating portfolios and so on). Hang on and continue Prowling!
Prowland, Tennesee Puma, Texas tigress and plenty others on the video (the 10 minute one) – I watched the video and I am proud of you.
If Obama wins this election can some one explain to me how Hillary is positioning herself for 2012, should I take it that she is going to challenge Obama for the position of President, is Obama going to be a one term president so Hillary will get a chance then?
If Obama wins would the DNC, Dean and crew fall out of love with him and toss him out by 2012 for Hillary? I would love to know the answers because am getting confused the only chance I see for Hillary running in 2012 is if Mc Cain wins, if some see it differently I sure would love to know how this 2012 run by Hillary is going to happen.
Well, I mailed in that Voter Registration form with Barry Sotero as the name. Also, in my travels today through my area in Kitsap County, WA, there were no bumper stickers for either ticket.
“I think some people may be going through an anger phase with Hillary but they will get over it at some point.”
Count me out. I will never get over the treatment of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. The vile sexist/misogynist treatment of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was directed at all women, by default.
This is not “a phase”. I will not get over it until the miscreants of our species get over their probem with women. I’ve been a feminist for almost 40 years…
and I’m through waiting. Enough is enough. It’s time for unconscious men to get the hell out of our way.
atypical
She was in Cleveland campaigning at a church function.
Thank you Maryland Puma…
#884 atypical – she was in Cincinatti, OH in some convention meeting on people who are not even supposed to side dem or repub…
#875 DWP
Har har! Great to see you too. It’s been driving me nuts not to be able to prowl with the PUMAs. Love you too!
#879 Tennaseepuma
I admit, the republican tone of the blog was a real turn off to me – I’m not a republican, I’m a democrat – and I want my party back. My vote is my own and I will use it as I see fit and don’t want anyone shoving their choice down my throat. I’m a HRC supporter until I walk into the polling station – November isn’t here yet. It’s nice to see the blog has refocused somewhat.
dem4hillary
Senator Clinton cannot reform a party that BO controls. All bets are off, if this thug gets in. He is deceptive, dangerous, and delusional.
Obviously, it sickens Hillary’s supporters to see her campaign for this Chicago thug. Every prominent Democrat that is campaigning for him is tainted by association. The only way to have this nightmare end is a McCain/Palin victory.
oops thanks Lotus. I knew it was an Ohio C name!
I wonder if MO went with him to Barbra Streisand thing fundraiser.
#811 BillieJo
I “heard” they did not want Hillary to be ahead at any point during the roll call vote so CA passed because it would have put her ahead at that point. Just another thought to add to your list.
#876 mijabsnji i was watching Bill O and he had two woman on tonite and he said something about BO probably listens to MO’s advice or something like that ask her for advice and the one lady says Yea you can tell She Wears The Pants In That Family…lmao…
Average doesn’t cut it for vice president
This was in our newspaper today and I want to reply to it so badly but I am not good at composing a letter would one of you wonderful writers on here please compose a letter for me , I mean I realize that Sarah is not running against Nobama but they are attacking her like she is;
Americans have an unhealthy desire to see average people promoted to positions of great authority. Part of George Bush’s appeal with voters was his regular guy persona, and many people can relate to Sarah Palin for similar reasons, but can this country afford to have someone who,according ,according to actuarial tables,has a one in four chance of becoming our president?Being governor of an isolated state of only 680,000 people doesn’t meet the high standard that we should have of someone seeking the highest offices in our land. No one wants an average neurosurgeon or even an average carpenter, but when it comes time to vest a man or woman with more power and responsibility than any person has held in human history, Americans say they want a regular guy, someone just like themselves. We need to return to placing exceptional people into high office, people that are articulate, people that can give rational explanations for their course of action, people that don’t mind talking about complex issues in detail, and grown-ups that don’t cry sexism when asked tough questions. Like Bush and Cheney before them, McCain and Palin don’t like criticism and seem poised to continue with the Republican tradition of keeping the people in the dark.
I would like to add this is a college town( Depauw) full of Obamabots
I’m still waiting for a good definition of ‘democrat’. Both terms have become quite ambiguous.
#896 Alice1943
She was probalby spending 9/11 meeting with her designers to get the “perfect” dress for the “stars party.” Can you tell I don’t respect her?
#876 mijabsnji
Please refrain from that type of labeling on the blog. It’s against Murphy’s rules.
Thanks.
I still don’t see how anyone can be talking of Hillary 2012 if Obama wins he is there till 2016 and Hillary is dead in the water till then, I cant support that can I
i think no one should ever get over the treatment of sarah palin is getting now because they are doing the same vile thing to her as was done to hillary.. so let’s show a little outraged about that too and support governor palin in her battle against sexism
Osaka, i don’t get angry with people who disagree with me on fact. Im PISSED that someone would watch some goosebump trailor and talk about how they’ve lost all respect for HIllary clinton and feel it appropriate to put that on here. That is BS.
Last night i was pissed by some neo-con coming here pretending to be a Democrat and spouting off Republican lies and watching people fall over themselves with concurring with them just because they were against the Democratic Party.
#870Slyt2
YA know what they say,out of sight out of mind.
I think they know all about that whitey tape,and there hoping that the Republicans don’t show it.As a matter of fact I heard that it was on the Trinity Church web site but was pulled immediately as soon as word got out about the tape.
Tomorrow, 5 members of the Alaska Legislature are filing suit with the Alaska State Superior Court to halt the investigation because of the loss of impartiality (no shit!). I’m not sure how Alaska’s federal court system is tiered, but if the Superior Court performs the function of the district and appellate courts, then the next level up from Superior would be the Alaska Supreme Court (for the appeal).
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/131386
#887 Caribbean Puma – I doubt Oblah blah will be challenged in 2012 because if dems have done harm to Bill and Hill in 2008 when GW was in office imagine what they could do with BHO in the WH? BOTS all over and perhaps even cloned.
It will not be a good example for BHO to be challenged. He does not, I suppose, like fair elections anyway, so that is completely out of question. Same goes for Repub incumbent.
HRC’s best chance – McC in office now and she leading Dems in a overturned / overhauled real DEMS party with JSND and PUMA at the forefront in 2012 and non-dems like me will tag along PUMA
#880 osaka puma, AMEN
Greta just said that Feminists HATE Sarah Palin. Does that mean they LOVE MO?
Greta pt. 2 interview on.
#850 Dem4Hillary on 09.16.08 at 9:29 pm
Interesting posting. However, I just feel all the love here at PUMA.
Country first
Puma second
Party last
I don’t think of this as a “pro-Republican” blog, but as a Republican, I have been treated very nicely here, and certainly made to feel welcome.
I will never be president of Hillary’s fan club, but she certainly earned my respect for her campaign. From my perspective, she not only became a more skillful campaigner, she became more confident and more of her own person. She would have been a formidable opponent this year. Thank goodness (from a Republican perspective) the poobahs of the Democratic Party knew better than you mere voters and gave us the One.
I have been quite impressed with can-do attitude and initiative you all have shown. But MarylandPUMA – Wow! Just Wow!
So…I guess if a person is addicted to being ‘pissed’, this is a good place to go.
#889 DancesWithPumas,
You misunderstood what I meant. I think that some Hillary supporters are angry with Hillary for supporting BO. I wasn’t talking about “getting over” the way she was treated, which was horrible.
“I will never get over the treatment of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. The vile sexist/misogynist treatment of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was directed at all women, by default.”
I agree 100% with what you are saying here.
Ok on fox they are talking about feminist what the hell is a feminist I am fifty five and I have heard this most of my adult life maybe I am one and don’t know it.
That is what I was feeling LotusBoy, I just did not see why some still feel she has a chance in 2012 so they are going to support Obama, I also don’t feel if he wins he is going to give her anything he will discard her once again and there is nothing anyone will be able to do about it.
Hillary’s best chance is a Mc Cain win, she can regroup the DNC will have to face the fact they messed up and they will have no choice but to run Hillary against Palin in 2012
Fine carribean Puma,
I guess Hillary should have fought to the death. no political allies just delegates, not even the majority of delegates due to the formula and due to the turncoats, so say 35% of the pledged delegates standing on the floor of the national convention raising hell.
She would have just about been forced out of her Senate seat. So, she’s still stnading to fight another day and we’re debating 2012 or 2016.
Obama is an idiot. Look at 2004. They ran a “anybody but Bush” campaign with nothing to stand up for and they LOST. They’re doing the same thing again and it’s not going to work
It’s idiotic to suggest that she would run against Obama in 2012, im suggesting that McCain will win, and that the CLINTON faction of this party will be in control in JANUARY. THAT’S WHY IM TALKING 2012. Im talking realistic possibilities rather than a shakespere tragedy. DAMN!
Christine Pelosi and the old feminists from NOW and Emily’s List are a disgrace. They talk about women’s rights being set back with the Rep. ticket. What about the rights of the voters that were stolen by BO and the DP? Invasion of the Body Snatchers Obama Style….
915 kids1627 LOL I’m 65, but I can relate.
#877 Middle age female
Did he give his proof or sources to see the proof?
tillery…
i’m sick and tired of obama and michelle mocking all of us with their lies and hidden agendas..
but you know what.i think so many white people are self hating and self destructive so f..ked up on white guilt they would applaud and cheer any HATE WHITEY tape..
but think of this timely and eternal saying..”there is a thin line between love and hate” ..wrap your head around that one..
914 mick
Thank you for the clarification. I read the blog from the bottom up.
Still, my statement stands, eveb if it isn’t in response to that specific comment.
I’m glad you agree. Many of our PUMA men are conscious, and most of us recognize that fact.
Thanks again.
I swear—Obama can use more words to say absolutely nothing, than anyone I ever saw.
bobram I just got on – are you doing a prowl? I tried to read through the posts, but everyone has really been busy today. Please help me.
If bobram is gone, please let me know what to do. I have to work on my Oprah stuff still.
Thanks
Im sick of idiots here and everywhere. I’ve been accused of supporting McCain by local Democrats and now, I’m accused of supporting OBAMA by PUMAS.
Im just sick of stupid people getting caught up in stupid rhetoric and stupid movie trailors who need a stupid hollywood type hero rather than a real champion.
IM PROTESTING THE ELECTION LIKE I SAID I WAS. IM NOT VOTING FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE I DON’T HAVE TO BECAUSE MY STATE IS 25 (TWENTY FIVE) POINTS AHEAD FOR MCCAIN. IM NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE OF ALL REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH HERE. I AM A FORMER PARTY LEADER WHO DID TAKE A STAND, WHO HAS SPOKEN OPENLY AND HONESTLY WITH THE MEDIA, WHO HAS RESIGNED FROM POSITIONS IN THIS PARTY, WHO DID TRAVEL WITH THIS CAMPAIGN, WHO HAS PUT IN APPROXIMATELY 4,000 HOURS OF SERVICE TO THIS PARTY AND WHO UNDERSTANDS MORE THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON ABOUT POLITICS.
To be totally honest, even as a republican, when Hillary conceded I sat back in shock and wondered why she didn’t run as an independent. I mean…. after all the dem leadership and Obama had done (and tha doesn’t even include the upcoming convention, LOL) it amazed me that she stayed with them and didn’t make her own party! I think she would have had a good shot at wiping BO out and make a brand new dem party if she had done that.
What worries me with Hillary is what I hear outside this blog. People who supported her for the fight in her. They dont see that side of her anymore. Quite frankly many have told me they dont care about what she ‘has to do’ and I’m tired of trying to convince them. They believed she was a fighter and now they dont. Plain and simple. They are not as in tuned politically. Those are the votes she will still need in the future. I worry she is changing too many minds, I have friends that have stated they wont vote for her again.
First, thank you Anna osaka puma for our insight on what is happening in the polls. I appreciate it.
Second (for other Pumas), please keep in mind that Hillary won the popular vote and carried most of the states that traditionally vote Democrat or are important swing states. She fought hard and she fought honorably; we all know that she has little choice in supporting the party if she is able to be effective as a senator. She really has no options if she wants to remain a viable political figure. Sarah Palin gave her more credit than we are. Politics is a game of the possible.
Iron jawed angels is one of my favorite movies. It is completely inspiring.
I wish I could name a female in politics today that would stand up for themselves against everything, and everyone. Against husband and country. Those women were beaten and forcefed.
It makes me wonder how far up I would be able to stand…
918 EWard
Christine Pelosi and the old feminists from NOW and Emily’s List are a disgrace.
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Most baby boomer feminists are so far ahead of NOW that it isn’t even funny. I remember when they got in bed with Washington, DC. They were trying to be “acceptable” to the DC establishment, and everything changed, except for their lip service.
Opps #928 “and” between Anna and osaka. My bad!
I guess I am now going to have to look it up in Websters what a feminist is
Dem4Hill, take it easy we are all on the same side here, I dont like what was done to Hillary, I cannot vote for Obama and honestly I do like Palin she is a natural.
I hate looking at Hillary with this support OB, and I hope she can recover from all this, I know one thing win or lose Obama is not going to give up the DNC just like that he is a nasty politician and power mad, so he will fight to stay in the limelight and control all that he can so Hillary better watch him closely
921 osaka puma I disagree. Most of the white people I know are pissed that this could become all about race and are ready for whatever. America has always been a land of opportunity and if you work hard you can get somewhere. There are plenty of examples of successful blacks, just like there are plenty of examples of unsuccessful whites. There might have been something to feel guilty about 150 years ago, but that was long before any of our lifetimes.
Maryland, I think we had a big shock watching the Dem Convention,it was like we were being abused right beside Hillary. I couldn’t believe it happened in front of the whole world and no one stepped up to stop it? It befuddles my mind. I still believe in Hillary and will continue to support her.There is noway I will ever vote Obama in tho.
PS Alice what are you talking about? Who is angry? Us? You bet your sweet a** we are at Obama and His hound group.
#899 Pookie
My response to that type of doublespeak is this:
Palin, as a governor, has essentially run a mini-country for two years inasmuch as a state operates as an entity of itself as well as a part of the nation. She has had control of a military force, the National Guard; she has gone against her party to rout out the corruption and won (and there’s PROOF, not supposition like Obama’s Chicago); she has been in a position to HAVE to make decisions that affect millions of people – from the natural preserves of her state to the natural resources, from budgeting to human resource management and oversight. She’s been an ACTIVE politician, fully engaged in her state and it’s people’s welfare. In addition to this, she’s run a HOUSEHOLD – and any woman (and some men) can tell you that job makes you an excellent multi-tasker: priority-setter and peace-maker and authoritarian and nurse and teacher and taxi and ATM machine and accountant and playmate and supervisor, etc.
What has Obama done? So far, the only thing I have EVER seen ANY of his supporters say when asked that question is “ah, eh, well, he’s got charisma”. The only thing I KNOW he’s done is vote present. There is very little evidence that he did ANYTHING for the people in his district in IL, any legislation that bears his name was passed to him by another (not naming names here), and he spent a whopping 143 days in office before actively campaigning for POTUS. HE does not manage his campaign – his cohorts do. Michelle runs his house – that’s obvious. So tell me again why he’s so great?
DISCLAIMER: I am not a republican but sure am sick and tired of the inference that Palin is not experienced and the assurance that BO is.
She could not vote PRESENT.
Topic: PROWL Suggestion
Laughing at myself tonight, first doing a prowl that wasn’t a real prowl (Howie Dean) and then posting the Springsteen lyrics to “Going Down” because I hadn’t seen the youtube Murphy posted cause no video showed up on my browser at work.
Oh well, great minds think alike?!!
OK Murphy, I got the Springsteen song right so now why don’t we all do a new Prowl on Mr. Howard Dean just to let him know we’re still alive & Roaring?
Puhleease, Oh Pretty Please?!!
Dinner tonight is rigatoni with veggies and italian sweet sausage, while it cooks I’m having a drink (“ontherocks”) & then off to find a video of Hillary’s interview today. Hope she was indeed on television or else I’ll know I was totally out of sync with PUMApac today!
Happy Birthday BOBAM
Happy Birthday scarolina !
BOBRAM thanks for the idea regarding Hansen/MSNBC-sent him a request, hope he got quite a few!!!
dem4hillary.. i’m with you!
we all want this obama nightmare to get over.
we admire and respect you for your passion ..you are a fighter!
Hi Maryland Puma,
How you doing tonight?
We gave them hell in Denver, didn’t we?!!
#916 Caribbean Puma – and hypothetically if McC can prove he is a true maverick he can get her in his government as a bi-partisan and country first way of ruling. That is the change I can believe in!
I do not believe BHO will use any of good wisdom Bill and Hill have (based on known facts that BHO campaign is not listening to Dem governers and other leaders across the country) once in the office. He will be busy expanding his kingdom beyond the 58 states!
926 KarenWI
To be totally honest, even as a republican, when Hillary conceded I sat back in shock and wondered why she didn’t run as an independent.
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Perhaps the constant portrayal of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton as willing to do anything to get into the White House would have been reinforced had she changed parties. She could have transformed into God, and they still would have crucified her. (no pun).
TexasTigressso glad you’re OK. You were missed.
#372 ladyhawkke
Random question, who was the woman who led the rollcall, I think she had too much plastic surgery, and also perhaps a lobotomy to boot?
It might be quite refreshing if nobody here accused anybody here of anything!!!!! Except for Obama And MO!
But it’s pretty kewl you can vent here and not be judged, Dem4Hillary.
Good night Pumas
Be peaceful and sleep well.
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944 hillstheone I can’t remember her name but I think she was the local head of the Dem party in Denver.
#902 #916 Caribbean Puma,
Hillary is in a good position to run in 2012 assuming that McCain will win in Nov. 2008. In order to stay in good standing with her party she HAD to support BO. Politically speaking it’s a smart move for her.
#925 Dem4Hillary
My advice – take a walk and get away from the blog for the night.
JUst a quick note: NORAL ,NOW, EMILYS LIST to name but a very few are funded by….Gerge Soros..along with ACLU,NAACP…see WHY a few of those entities endorsed the hateful one ??? In answer to a question about children with Asma (SP?) BO says that they shouldn’t be taken to an emergency room, should go to clinic for help as it is not serious or some such nonsense…what a guy.
sorry…GEORGE SOROS
Caribbean Puma,
I think in FOUR YEARS that if Hillary is in good health and makes the personal choice to run, she will make a hell of a run and win the nomination. Four years is a LONG LONG time from now. so, these petty people who say “well I’m not going to vote for her” can do what they want, just as we can do what we want regarding the election this year.
I don’t have an answer about those people. They may cost her, they may not. We PUMAS may cost Obama the election, we may not. Four years is a long time, a lot longer than 3 months. I think all 99% of those who voted for her would vote for her again.
Here is the other thing I know about this party, there is nothing as lonely as being the losing candidate and the inner circle of the losing candidate for president. Howard Dean’s term ENDS EARLY 2009. I think in January. The question is who will replace him. He will not run for re-election, especially if his candidate looses. The balance of power will shift when obama loses this election.
I should say if Bill and Hillary are in good health, she will run. I do think that if Bill were to get very ill, she would not seek higher office. She may stay in the Senate, but she would not seek higher office.
Goodnite Carrie…
Sry if this has been posted already, but tune in to Blogtalk Radio for riverdaughter and co on Conflucian’s Say.
It’s on now!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT
Bill looked GREAT everytime I saw him during the campaign, which was quite often and he didn’t possibly have time to be galavanting with women since he made as many as 8 campaign stops in a day, but there have been some times on TV that I really wonder how healthy he is.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think they start running 2 years before (if not earlier)… so if Hillary is going to make a run in 2012 she would start next year or 2010.
I’m curious. I wonder if it occurs to Obama that the voters of america are watching how he SPENDS money.
#953 Dem4Hillary – Remember Bill saying something about ‘I will talk to you about it in January’
Perhaps there is something brewing. They say there is lull before the storm. Another is if you don’t have all the ammunition do go for the battle. Hit the enemy in the weakest spot at the most appropriate time.
My Reading – Wait for BHO to lose and her action items will start rolling.
Again as a non-dem, I am now not averse to her HRC 2012 run and I will say this till 2012.
GO PUMA
I do want to apologize to PUMA’s for thinking it was one here that made the comment this am… I know many of you here, but with new add’s each day, I just thought it may have been someone that just wanted to growl~ and didnt know what they were talking about! and yes, it is a obot troll who claims to watch here and laugh at us purely for entertainment~ like any candidate would care about the couple hundred we are~ lol.. if they only knew there are so many more!!! such denial!
so forgive me plz~
662# deadgirlrise~book marked you~and thanks! ♥
832# DWP~ ohh the bots are trollin the blog huge! I guess they dont like the info I found and have posted~ they can comment all they want, they wont make the post as I approve the comments~ and I love how irritated my blog makes them~ it really is funny!
after I get more I may post about them~ but then again, why give them the time of day!!!
yeah, well it would be after the 2010 elections, so it would be late 2010 or early 2011. This time, it was just after superbowl or right at superbowl 2007. So going with that timeline it would be Feb 2011
Murf (heh)
865
****FROM BILL CLINTON via email *********
If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!
That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.
Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.
Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.
After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.
It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.
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My response:
Bill,
I was in Denver. I saw what they did to Hillary. I saw what she endured from the DNC. So did you.
I am a Democrat, but no longer associate with my party because I no longer recognize it.
If I give to any organization for the remainder of this election season, and beyond, it will NOT be for the DNC. It will NOT be for the DNCC. It will not be for ANY Democrat who sat back and shut up as Hillary was villified and shat on and abused by her own party – the party that she (and you) have lived and breathed for years.
If I give, it will be to PUMA PAC, the Voice of the Voters of the Democratic Party. I am now a PUMA Democrat, and I will stand strong with my PUMA brothers and sisters of all races, religions, cultures and orientations as we fight to eradicate the diseases in the Democratic Party named Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Donna Brazile.
I still believe in Hillary; believe that she was the BEST candidate for POTUS 08. But I no longer believe in the sanctity of our democracy or our party.
repeat request Hello?????
bobram I just got on – are you doing a prowl? I tried to read through the posts, but everyone has really been busy today. Please help me.
If bobram is gone, please let me know what to do. I have to work on my Oprah stuff still.
Thanks
#959 Alice1943 – can he refund part of his collection to his poorest donors? No, he Won’t.
Oh!!! How cool is that!!! We ‘over-leveraged’ ourselves so now we bail ourselves out. The government just gave 85 million dollars to AIG. So we bail out Freddie, Fannie, AIG… Obama doesn’t have to raise our taxes. They just went up anyway!!
Oh, yeah…the Russian stock market crashed and closed today, also. I wonder if we get to bail them out, too.
but their exploratory committees were set up long before that, i believe.
I am curious if she can keep her committee together, if she will put a new one together, etc.
Committees allow them to raise money for a “potential” run.
Dem4Hillary We PUMAS may cost Obama the election, we may not.
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We will, he will be part of, as you put it ‘the losing candidate inner circle’. Then the path will be clear for 2012. And Hillary will fight on again. But for now, we do what we do and stop Bo however we see fit.
I really think if Mc Cain wins he will embrace her I don’t know why but I feel he would, he has always spoken highly of Hillary and Mc Cain is a man that dances to the beat of his own drum, he would quicker get Hillary working for him than Obama, Obama will never offer Hillary anything that is how I see it, he is only using her now because he wants to be President.
966 LotusBoy Of course not. MO can’t afford to buy her own wardrobe—she only makes $300,000. per yr.
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Interesting News
Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member Lynn Forester de Rothchild, to endorse McCain.
Lynn Forester de Rothchild was a major donor for Clinton earning her the title as a Hillraiser
962 Hill4- if you’re referring to when Hill would start running, didn’t Obama start a full 2 years before? That would be 2010 for her wouldn’t it?
Oh… and where is that link to things I can print out to take to advertise PUMA if I can go tomorrow for tickets, and get to the thursday McCain rally?
MarylandPuma: Oh I love you! thank you for that letter. Now do you mind if I send it to my newspaper ?
Oh, I was wrong. It’s the Fed giving them 85 million and taking over 80% ownership. Not the gov’t.
Sorry bout the bold PUMAs – coding mistake!
#970- did you ever see that photo of McCain and Hillary looking at each other and smiling? I don’t recall any other picture of McCain looking quite like THAT with anybody else…. I mean he was really looking at her sweet! They are good friend, McCain and Hillary…
Hillary Clinton on Economy, Palin
http://abcnews.go.com/gma
Oh, I just got the most fun email from the Nobama camp. You have got to click on the link and take the survey. If your as slick as me you’ll PUMATIZE them!
Your passion and energy are crucial to electing Barack Obama president and moving this country in a fundamentally different direction.
Right now, you can help shape this campaign in the final stretch.
Fill out a short online survey, and share your feedback on what is most important in the general election.
Whether you’ve been involved heavily or just a bit, whether you’ve been a supporter since the beginning or are new to this movement, your feedback will inform the planning and help us adjust for the next phase.
Building a grassroots movement of this scale is unprecedented, and it has been shaped by you every step of the way.
And with less than 50 days left, your input is essential to moving our campaign forward.
Which issues are you interested in? How would you like to get involved?
Share your feedback now:
http://my.barackobama.com/survey
We’ve learned a lot together over the past 19 months, but the next few weeks are going to be tougher than any we’ve faced so far.
Thank you in advance for your participation in this important survey and for your hard work in the weeks ahead.
#975 Pookie
Have at it! LOL
It usually works with those who want to bash Palin with me. They shut up.
They had their exploratory committees established and fundraising for them in late 2006 or early 2007 but it wasn’t a public campaign until AFTER the 2006 elections. Speculation was abound everywhere about who, what, when, where, why, and how, but there was not an active primary campaign until AFTER those elections. It would have undermined the 2006 elections and it would have split off too much money that was needed to congressional/senatorial/gubnetorial candidates,.
965 1gypsy4mc
check the oprah boycott list before you knock yourself out:
http://www.pumapac.org/boycotts.html
Hi everyone, Just lurking, once again…
Dem4Hillary – I agree with your (#849) post.
#974 KarenWI if you’re referring to when Hill would start running, didn’t Obama start a full 2 years before? That would be 2010 for her wouldn’t it?
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Okay, 2010 I should be well rested by then. I just need a couple years worth of sleep after this election ride. haha
#940 hillstheone
Yeppers – and we’re not done yet….not by a loooooooooooooooooooong shot.
924 1gypsy4mc
bobram’s 70th birthday tonight – he went out to celebrate -one of those “i am not supposed to know about it
and sly2t and i sang a duet –
maryland – take a deserved break, please.
crusaders cross – was nice to see you this am
as for me- i’ve been here 15 hours today – husband want some attention – he made a dinner recipe from gourmet magazine – believe me, after sly2t’s recipe and magazine recipe, i am looking forward to purring my way to sleep.
i have not forgotten that i will think about the voter fraud that is possible from the galveston texas homeless peeps –
till tomorrow pumas ……………………………zzzzzzzzzzzz
BO is changing his slogan. Even he knows that he is not believable anymore. Story on Fox for comment:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/obama-fine-tunes-change-message-as-race-tightens/#comment-686693
Maryland-freaking-Puma!
back with a vengeance!
Great to see you Girl!!!
thanks pumetta…
“Maryland-freaking-Puma”
… has a certain ring to it.
849 Dem4Hillary … Sadly I think that “they” meaning the BO camp will promise Hillary the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow…. but I think it will be an empty one, just like his suit.
She is out campaigning for him and he will dump her and kick her to the curb after he’s used her up.
Shame on her for allowing that to happen. I hope it doesn’t but, I’m taking a back seat to watch. My preference of course is that Hillary would be our next president. That will not be the case, so personally I will vote McCain in protest.
849 Dem4Hillary
tritto what pumetta said.
#990 Dem4Hillary
You’re welcome. I’m glad I stopped by the site tonight – it’s good to know I’m not alone. (Sometimes I feel that way. Never used to…)
There is no great Hillary supporter than me. I am sick that the woman I thought was going to fight until the bitter end….didn’t!!!
When she didn’t fight for the votes at the convention…I think that was her downfall and she will never be elected President.
She let the Democratic party take everything away from her for the “Party”. Too bad for us and Hillary. It also made me sad that she really didn’t acknowledge Bill in her speech at the convention. That told me a lot and she was doing just exactly what the party wanted.
My goal is to see that Nobama is NOT elected to be the President of this Great Country!! The ONLY way that can be done is to vote for McCain.
I have been a Democrat all my life and still am, I will not give that up. I will fight for our Country and our Party….The REAL Democratic Party. Not the one we are seeing this year.
There is no great Hillary supporter than me. I am sick that the woman I thought was going to fight until the bitter end….didn’t!!!
When she didn’t fight for the votes at the convention…I think that was her downfall and she will never be elected President.
She let the Democratic party take everything away from her for the “Party”. Too bad for us and Hillary. It also made me sad that she really didn’t acknowledge Bill in her speech at the convention. That told me a lot and she was doing just exactly what the party wanted.
My goal is to see that Nobama is NOT elected to be the President of this Great Country!! The ONLY way that can be done is to vote for McCain.
I have been a Democrat all my life and still am, I will not give that up. I will fight for our Country and our Party….The REAL Democratic Party. Not the one we are seeing this year.
#993 Dances…
Loooovvvve it!
I want so much to support the Dems but when I hear them introducing Biden and referring to Palin as “a bucket of fluff” geez I just get sick of all this and disgusted to even think for one moment I was a democrat.
#989 Murpuma & #991 DWP
Har har.
Missed you all too!
Your post reminded me of a joke one of my teachers shared a couple days ago.
Some kindergarten students were looking at pictures of animals and naming them. The teacher held up an elephant. One of the students said “That’s a freakin elephant!” The teacher was shocked and asked where the student had heard that.
The student replied – “right there in the book – African Elephant.” He was pronouncing the word phonetically.
What the teacher didn’t realize is that the child
hahahah, Obama has asked his supporters to fill out a survey
email: dem4Hillary@hotmail.com
first name: Hillary Last Name: Democrat
Address: 2012 Pennsylvania Ave
Democrat, NY 10023
Occupation: Soldier for Hillary
#980bythelake: I filled out the survey and on the last comment they asked for was comments about the election I said “Bo had better put his head between his legs and kiss his skinny a*s goodbye”
RE: Hillary suspending her campaign and going along with nobo.
A couple of things I KNOW… the Dems could have kicked her and Bill out of the party as the party rules more or less say if you don’t follow the party line, we can kick you out. This is what is going on with Reid and Lieberman. He has been or is being stripped of any committees, etc. that he is on.
Also, she had no time to get enough money, the support and the field offices, etc. to get up and running as a liberal. Any and all money in her possession re: her campaign probably would hae to be turned over to the DNC..
I also heard that they told her if she ran for re-election, she would get NO support financially or otherwise from the Dem party and it’s members. As a matter-of fact they would make it miserable for her. This also meant ANY bills and/or anything else she proposed in the Senate or try to get passed would NOT. This would mean her healthcare bills, her pro-child bills and more.
Additionally, we do NOT know if she/Bill/Chelsea may have been threatened with their lives. We know they are bullies and will do whatever is “necessary to win.”
So, [please don’t be angry as none of us had to walk in her shoes during that time or now.
As for her run in 2012, she has a fund started for that. Better she has the money than the DNC or nobo. However, it doesn’t mean she will run in 2012. The entire Congress would have to substantially change for her to get the support to run. Four years is a long time and there could be new challengers, people may be loving Repubs and she will be older. Although she appears to have the energy of a 25 year old and she may just prefer not to run and enjoy less responsibility as a Senator or some other area in government or out of.
Thank you for your consideration!
Obama slogon has been changed from “Change We Can Believe In,” to “Change We Need.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/obama-fine-tunes-change-message-as-race-tightens/
Now he’s got it right, Change We Need, get BHO out of there and replace him with Hillary!!!!
1001 Pookie…..LoL….I put;
Red State
Blue State
Obama is a
Big Mistake
(I think this could be a midnight Puma Prowl, Murphy?)
Obama requests survey;
http://my.barackobama.com/survey
Third request… I hope to go tomorrow and pick up a ticket for the McCain event in my area on thursday. I plan on telling everyone I see there (tomorrow and thursday) about PUMA. I already told the lady in MI who called me about the event about PUMA. She had never heard of you, but she does now! Someone said there were some things to print out and take tomorrow and thursday. Where is a link there?
From the Bo campaign:
That’s why we need your help. As an Obama supporter in California, you can make a huge impact by traveling to Nevada to talk with voters about why Barack Obama and Joe Biden will bring the change we need.
We have a real shot to win in our neighbor state Nevada, but the race is extremely close and you could make the difference.
We are organizing a special trip for Californians travel to Nevada and grow our movement there. Will you take a short trip to Nevada to make a big difference for Barack?
ATTENTION NEVADA PUMAS
BO will be in Vegas tomorrow 9/17. Doors open at 2:30, it starts at 5pm.
850 Las Vegas Blvd.
Anyone want to go protest? It’s open to all.
Hi everyone…
I’ve posted before but for those who don’t know, I am a Rep but I have huge respect for the PUMA’s and appreciate hearing what you have to say.
Now, while we might not agree all the time, I think we can agree on two things:
1) The sexist treatment of Hillary and Sarah. I firmly believe that we, as women, can have a strong voice and a bipartisan voice at that!
2) Keeping “the messiah” out of the White House (even though I’ve been hearing a lot that if you don’t vote for him, you’re racist….please!)
and on a seperate note, I believe the VP (which if McCain is elected would be Sarah) is the president of the Senate–Hillary and Sarah working together for women everywhere!
tec1965 on 09.16.08 at 7:17 pm #704 hey puma sf1 yup they close at 8pm eastern time
are u in mass ??
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Well we had a tough hill to climb but at least 33% is a good sign in MASS. So looking on the bright side 1/3 of Kerry’s support has eroded. If that can happen in blue, blue mass then we have hope. The GE is coming and just maybe we will get Kerry to do some work for a change, I am not voting for him!
The repub looks okay and we do need some fresh blood that is not so dam BLUE!
#1002 diva2 – on the threat – I thought Nancy Pelo was sh** scared during the vote call. I watched the convention on TV and thought she was too surreal. For that matter most except BHO!
About Alaska:
“In the same fiscal year, an additional $310 million from oil production went into the Alaska Permanent Fund, which pays annual dividends to residents who have lived in the state for more than one calendar year, regardless of age.
Last year’s payout was a record $1,963.86 per person. In 24 years, oil has contributed about $9.7 billion to the permanent fund. Although the fund was established in the 1970s to ensure stability in state government operations once oil production declined, the dividend is now considered an entitlement by most Alaskans.”
The $1,200 Palin mentions was, AFAIK, an additional one-time payout because of the “windfall” high oil price profits.
As for ANWAR, drilling would affect about 3 sq. mi. out of 3,000 in the refuge. Alaska has about 560,000 sq. mi., so the drill area is 0.1% of 0.5% of the state.
Could’ve had a Hillary O8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=affW-ZgGswA
Oops. Most of the above info comes from here:
http://www.juneauempire.com/anwr/oilandgas.shtml
yes the VP is president of the senate. They have one vote if and only if the senate is in a tie and they hardly ever show up to preside over the Senate. (Like how many times have you seen Cheney in the Senate). They show up to their party caucuses, etc.
KarenWi-go to the action center link up on right side of page…..
Senate President has no power over legislation brought to the floor of the Senate, that is the Senate Majority leader. It’s more of a figurehead role.
Dem4Hillary,
But maybe Sarah would be different? We can hope…
how many folks got the bumper sticker and beg for $$$ from the DNC???? hee hee I sent them my PUMA cash and stuck my “former Hillary supporter for McCain” bumper in their pre-paid envelope….
No Way
No How
No Bama
Obama pocketed $126,000 from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
http://blogwonks.com/2008/09/15/obama-got-12600-from-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/
Most of Lehman brothers financial woes are directly related to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Whilst Obama blasts McCain and Republicans for the current financial crisis he fails to mention this :
While Barack Obama likes to talk about how he’ll change Washington, and how it’s wrong for Washington insiders to be making big bucks from other Washington insiders, Obama once again is just talk. Jen Rubin links to an article showing that Barack Obama in just a few short years has taken in over $126,000 from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, more than any other politician in D.C. except one. Here are the top ten:
All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008
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#987 Blue Blue Gal Thanks, it was lonely here. You sang a duet? Is it on a video? Or is it above on the thread? If you’re already gone, I’ll see you tomorrow.
BYTHELAKE, MURPHY AND EVERYONE; OH..You want to really have a good time? Go take the survey mentioned by by the lake over at Obimbo’s site…about the campaign…So much fun…I checked other and gave comments in two places, and I checked every group on thepage re what groups I identified with…In response to what would like to do for the campaign, an other with response box: I will continue to work every single day to assure that fraud Obama is not elected President of the United States. Then in another other place, in which they asked what I thought of the campaign, I said it is the sleaziest gutter campaign I have ever seen evern more so than Marc Moriel;s against Donald Mintz (Mayoral campaign in NO…Moriel is attached to Obimbos hip in this election…and the race card played nationally by Obimbo is right out of Moriels book)
Talk about a fun little survery..and of course my name was NewOrleansPuma.
You all should take a little trip and give Obinjo comments about his campaign! Great catharsis! Thanks by the lake for posting site link.
http://thenewagenda.net/2008/09/14/why-the-attacks-on-sarah-palin-are-the-best-argument-for-voting-for-her/
Here is a link to an article linked to the New Agenda website. It is about misogyny and womenin politics and media. Very good read!
I saw Hillary on TV today a young woman was interviewing her about Sarah Palin and she would not say anything negative about her. But I also thought she looked drained she did not look well. I think it is a shame what those shysters did to her, I know she did not desert us and we will not desert her not when she needs us the most.I know all the puma’s love her and we will have her back!
#1005 KarenWI
Here ya go: http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html
I was watching Hannity & Colmes earlier, their guest was daughter of Nancy Pelosi. The rhetoric she use about Sarah Palin is the same rhetoric women use against Hillary; “I want a woman in the Whitehouse but not that women.” What’s the matter with these women calling themselves feminists?!?!?!?!
Mothers either single or married can EASILY relate to Sarah Palin, juggling career while raising a family; I call these mothers “SUPERMOMS, ” because that’s what they are. They go beyond what is expected of them which these vicious feminists considers downgrading women. Christine Pelosi said if Sarah Palin become our next VP it would be taking women of America backward! I cannot find rationality what the freaking daughter of Nancy Pelosi is talking about!
I am seeing VAGINA ENVY here, these feminist are against Sarah Palin simply because she’s a Republican. These women are not after forwarding womens cause but holding them back under the banner of the Democratic Party. I do not believe in that one bit. The worst enemy of a woman to move ahead are other women!
Many of us CAN relate to Sarah, her husband is a blue collar worker, she is a working mother; husband and wife have to stick to their schedule so they can be there for their growing family. Why is it some women out there put their own double standard against other women? When Nancy Pelosi run for office did any of these feminist rant and rave about her kids?
Palin reminds women of America the pioneering women of this country that have to go through all kinds of barrier to forge ahead and the one holding them back is their own kind. The Suffragates encountered the same thing when they have to demonstrate infront of the Whitehouse demanding their right to vote!
#1009 LotusBoy
I imagine she was but maybe she was worried her candidate – “the chosen mistake” wouldn’t win, that the “real votes” would actually show up, that the states would decide last minute to skip or not throw all their delegates to nobo or if he lost, she would be up a creek because she didn’t do the job for which she was tasked (win at all costs) or maybe she feared for her life for what she knew she had done. She really screwed California and I hope they reciprocate accordingly. Of course, that is how I feel.
1005 KarenWI
There are business cards too…
http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html
click on Flyers,….
#1011 greenfun – save this great video for Nov 5th for a sequel – Should Have had HRC as my PRES – Nightmares from BHO the loser?
seriously, the president of the Senate has the power to preside, not control legislation, but preside. They may cast a deciding vote in a tie. That’s it.
Sarah Palin has virtually no power as president of the Senate.
This is all the reasons why HRC deserves and needs to be Senate Majority leader. Power to appoint committees, power to make legislative calendar, power to close debate, power to hold hearings, etc.
#1007 VAKatforPalin : Hey I didn’t think of that! Hillary and Sarah working for women everywhere in the Senate! See there is a plan, it is for the good of good people and we don’t need to waste our energy worrying because we don’t yet understand it.
Obama has been trying to make progress by blaming McCain for the mess. Wasn’t Obama a senator in 2005 when the meltdown became obvious? Why didn’t he introduce some legislation to fix it then? McCain was on the right track back then, so why didn’t Obama reach across the isle and help him? Hillary Clinton was also expressing some concern about these issues about then. Why didn’t Obama help her?
As a real estate appraiser, I remember this being discussed in the Appraisal Institute’s news letter. The editor thought it was a good bill. We all thought then that Fannie and Freddy should have been reigned in along with several other large players in the game. Looks like McCain, and Hillary, were way ahead of the game.
McCain is on the right track. He said appoint a commission to study the economic problems. I think he should expand that thought and form an economic task force made up of people from the Clinton Administration and others who could be helpful. I would personally like to see Bill Clinton serve on that kind of task force. Of course as soon as McCain comes up with that kind of thing, Obama will co-opt it.
#973 Terrydo that is huge! She is the one I believe who said Baby Cakes was real snippy when he spoke to her….She gave him no MONEY!!
Dem4Hillary
Catching up on posts and saw your evolution on the blog tonight. First, I thought the points you made early on were/are incredibly right on. Second, I’m so glad you didn’t step away and hung in, responding to posts. Third, I found it quite remarkable how you managed to express your very strong feelings so eloguently and then to see how you slowly shifted gears into providing tangible information about various issues for the rest of us. I think you are quite impressive!
#1018 Greenfun
Hey!
Fannie broke and Freddie broker apparently put on some rather expensive parties at the Denver Convention.
I wonder if they would give that back to the people from who they took the money in the first place? That is a rhetorical question, of course.
Thanks guys. I’ve got the site now. Is there any particular flyer you think would be better to print out to take? Oh, by the way.. a question I’ve been wondering. I had always heard that PUMA was “party unity my a@@”. When/how did it change to what you have now, or is that a different group?
It takes a special person to be a political figure and a much loved one at that. Hillary left her ego in check even in the face of defeat, that is a special person and that is a professional politician.
Not many people would be capable of that, that’s why there are very few politicians and millions of average Joe’s…..
Had that been me, let’s just say I would have taken all those Mother F*$#ers down with me, I would have not stopped, I would have been punching people’s teeth down their throats and that is why I am not a politician.
My EGO would never allowed me to be trampled on like that!
Would never have allowed me……that is.
Sorry, I think I wasn’t clear in what I was trying to say… not that they (Hillary and Sarah) would co-sponsor legislation because the VP is not supposed to use their position to influence passage or act in a partisan matter but, as is sometimes the case, “the VP is the drafter and spokesperson for the administration’s policy…” they might be able to support some of the same things…that’s all I was trying to say (not well, I admit)
I’m headed to the den y’all. Have a math test bright and early tomorrow – right after I fight with the cub to get out of bed and RACE to get her to school on time and then RACE to get me to class on time. LOL
Hope all our Texas and Louisiana PUMAs are safe and well. You have all been in my thoughts and prayers. Please let us know if you need anything.
MDPUMA
#1035 michelle47 on 09.16.08 at 11:22 pm
Hillary got testicular fortitude, Sarah Palin is the same way; this two women are both strong and smart with common sense; they have MORE COJONES than NOBAMA!
Hi diva2–so great to meet you in Denver!
Do you have SJP’s link to her new blog?
thanks anna7000:
now Im ready to go yell at CNN, talk about out of touch. They are in my living room blabbering about how people with money in 401K and stock market, etc are going to weather this storm and they refer to people like me with a checking account, savings account, loans, and credit card debt as sort of this fringe group.
Geeze, I wouldn’t have used my credit card if I hadn’t HAD to. I don’t have 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 laying around to put into the stock market, bonds, 401K. It’s so out of my realm…
Some woman called into tonight about how she lost 20,000 dollars last night. Damn, I have 80,000 in student loan debt, ha.
#1025 diva2 – the best thing California can do is keep Hollywood from politics, Mark my words, the more celebs court DEM candidates no matter what, more the certainity of a repub winning the GE – Michael Moore said to Larry King, you put a donkey on DEM ticket, I will vote for it. So much is the love for themselves or hatred to common man.
All the George Clooney, Michael Moore movies would do before election is get more of common man against them / dems. Either they are faking their loyalty to the DEM ticket (cause they are rich right ) or they are too drugged. The height of stupidity is Lohan talking about Palin when she did nothing to bring honor to her gender and of Spears – I would like to see her dressed first!
Happy Birthday Scarolina – and thank all of you for your wishes -
Thank you LIZZY in CT (you have always been one that could be counted on for a project) and Atypical as well for sending information to my Dateline link for further investigation of anything that had to do with Obama.
I think it is time for a local paper prowl. Some of us are prominent Democrats. At least everyone in our little town here in Indiana knows who I am and what I believe. That is a powerful position to be in sometimes.
I plan of doing a series of letters to the editor. In them I will first talk about the corruption in Obama’s past, his Chicago roots, and his association with Ayers and Rezko.
The second letter will be one where I talk about his primary campaign and the buying of super delegates. I will include some information and some internet links to incidents of caucus fraud.
If I do a third letter, I will discuss why I am voting for McCain and compare the two candidates’ Senate records and accomplishments.
I will close every letter with a statement that I put democracy above all other principles. That I cannot vote for a person who would be so corrupt as to purchase the votes of super delegates in an effort to override the 18 million voices of the Hillary voters and the voters in MI and FL.
What do you all think about this idea?
Hello all (jrc, one4all, bobram, Headclunker, fineartsinoil, TexasTigress, californiagal, ldog70, atypical, BillieJo)
About the Berg lawsuit – I visited PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records) and looked at the docket of the case. I don’t see any judge’s order entered yet. Looks like the fight is currently over proving service upon defendants.
For Action Center maybe? Here is how one can look at the case status
- visit http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov
- sign up for an account (they charge you 8 cents per page…I am up to 48 cents so far)
- after you get your account & pw log into PACER
- supply the case info (2:08-cv-04083-RBS BERG v. OBAMA et al)
- look at the docket – it is a summary of all the motions, actions, decisions etc
- if you choose HTML format report then the docket has hyperlinks to the actual documents
bobram:
Thank you for that Free Fax number that you supplied for Sly. I was happy tp be able to complete the prowl.
WORKING ON A NEW FLYER. HERE’S THE ROUGH DRAFT. FEEL FREE TO TAKE IT AND EMBELLISH AS YOU SEE FIT:
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BARACK OBAMA IS ALL ABOUT CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
What’s really scary is, I believe him!
Never before have we had a Presidential candidate with a laundry list of ties to convicted felons and terrorists.
Never before have we had a Presidential candidate with such a total and complete lack of experience.
Never before have we had a candidate who changed his position on substantive issues so many times in such a short period of time.
Never before a candidate who went against the grain so as to be the only senator to vote for a bill that gives a green light to allow babies born alive from failed abortions to be left to die.
Never have we had a candidate who embraced a place of worship that preached hate and honored the likes of Louis Farrakhan.
Never before a person who enabled voter fraud in caucus states.
Never someone who goes oversees and speaks ill of his own country.
This truly is a change.
And I say: Never! Never! Never!
Michelle47
In politics you must have your ego always in check before you enter the door. Once you let your ego supersedes common sense, you’re out of politics.
Obama’s tax plan – is he promising to buy votes?
I’ll admit, Obama’s proposed tax plan is not the easiest thing to get your arms around. He claims he will only increase taxes on the top 5% and corporations. With those additional taxes, he proposes to almost double the federal budget to over $4 trillion.
So, 95% of taxpayers will not see an increase. But most of those people will see no decrease either. It appears that taxes will remain the same for almost all taxpayers. The “breaks” he talks about are concealed in the rhetoric of “working families”. I think his “working families are actually those people who pay no taxes at all now. And under the Obama plan, those who pay no taxes AND receive a refund (or rebate) will increase.
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6
Top 1% ($388,806+) earners pay 39.89% of all federal taxes.
Top 5% ($153,542) earners pay 60.14%;
Top 10% ($108,904) earners pay 70.79%;
Top 25% ($64,702) earners pay 86.27%;
Top 50% ($31,987) earners pay 97.01%;
Bottom 50% (<$31,987) earners pay 2.99%.
Right now, roughly 40 million tax filers pay no income tax at all. None. And half of those that pay no income taxes at all end up getting a check via the earned income credit. Under Obama’s plan, expect to see the number of people who do not pay any tax and who receive payments from the federal government increase. The numbers have seen on the amount of that payment is $1000.
Call me a cynic, but it looks to me that Obama is telling people that a vote for him means $1000 in your pocket.
Folks, our Country had turned over on its head. Over 200 years ago, we went from the start of a revolution over the concept of taxation without representation. Today, we have a proposal for representation without taxation.
I cannot recall the writer’s name, but the subject was the dangers of a democracy. The inherent danger being collapse from within. And when one group of voters obtains the power to control the public treasury by voting themselves wealth at the expense of a minority of voters, a democracy is well down the path to decay. A concept similar to the tyranny of the majority, which our Constitution is supposed to guard against.
Obama’s “vision” for our Country is the vision of Marx. His words of “hope” in reality a death bellow to democracy. This goes well beyond socialism in my view. He is embarking on a course to set the state up as nanny and sole provider. A provider that rewards only the “good children” in its care, while punishing those who dare to dissent.
I hope that the voters will send Obama packing back to his cobweb infested Senate office (if he can find his way back there).
I don’t know if we have any tax experts on board here, but i’d sure like to get an impartial view of their thoughts on this.
Asian, I agree, it’s just that I would have shoved my cojones down their throats and they would have all been laying there gasping for air. I like revenge it keeps me going and that is why i am not a politician.
1045 MKfromLA
About the Berg lawsuit – I visited PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records)
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Got it. Thank you!
DancesWithPumas – welcome! bbl.
Asian4Hillary on 09.16.08 at 11:12 pm
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Or, put another way, we are seeing misogyny coming from people that should find it appalling. Is there such a thing as “feminist misogyny”?
#1050 michelle47 on 09.16.08 at 11:31 pm
me too. I think if i’m a politician, both parties will hate me. I have no grey area
#1047 Anna7000
Anna, I loved your post. Would you mind if I copied it and sent it to the DNC along with my PUMA cash?
Palin and the Experience Canard
bobram:
I just found out it was your birthday. Happy Birthday, sorry that it is almost over.
Thank you MKfromLA – will check it out now -
You are welcome Lilibet – glad to be of service ma’m
#1053 Grizzly on 09.16.08 at 11:35 pm
Yes !!!!! We’re seeing it now, feminist are downright nasty with Palin but they can’t give you a valid reason why they’re mad at her, they’re the same way with Hillary.
grizzly———you tell em!!!
I hope that the voters will send Obama packing back to his cobweb infested Senate office (if he can find his way back there).
Maryland Puma——good luck on your test.
#1047 Anna7000 – Time to change his name too and finally bring his White grandmother to connect with Gun clinging, faith infested, xenophobes that love HRC and Palin.
Perhaps his Kansas Grandmother will say – Go HRC and save Barry from his hallucination of a leader he is not!
Women who hates other women, hate themselves
bobram on 09.16.08 at 11:36 pm
Happy B Day!
Anyone tell you your handle here reminds them of a 50’s song?
Lilibet – thank you again -you are so sweet to me – but now these old eyes need to go to bed and this blog has too many posts on it and takes forever to post —
New ideas are coming up for tomorrow stay tuned.
Hmmm… think I’ll try making a PUMAs for McCain sign…. I’m not very artistic but I can try….
Hey everyone, new treat presented just now.
Feel free to repost comments.
Anna7000 — love the new flyer. Is he really the ONLY senator to vote for that bill??
Take it upstairs!
So today my husband’s Newsweek arrives in the mail. Every political article was about Palin and every one was negative. Even Wasilla, Alaska was made to sound like a totally disgusting place. I flipped around to all the news stations tonight and every one had commentators trashing McCain and Palin. Only Lou Dobbs and Fox News had real news and issues. If I went by the media I would think this election is a shoo-in for Obama. What is going on? And is anyone else getting sick of this?
Karla – Be my guest. I’m sure you and others can make it better. It’s just a skeletal idea, but you get the gyst. I’ll post one more I got started and then I’m hitting the hay. Just can find my energy today. Not sure what’s up…
Correction… maybe I should say PUMA for McCain-Palin rathan than PUMA’s? That way it wouldn’t sound like the whole organization is for him? What do you think?
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
(or at least confirm)
Senator Obama talks of equal pay for equal work, a platitude that some women may find reassuring. His web site reminds us that “despite decades of progress, women still make only 77 cents for every dollar a man makes” under the heading “Fighting for Pay Equity”. While the senator sounds like he will be a true advocate for women’s rights including equality in the work place, best check out the facts before getting too filled with hope:
· Barack Obama pays the women in his U.S. Senate office 83 cents for every dollar a man makes.
· John McCain pays the women in his U.S. Senate office $1.04 for every dollar paid to male staffers.
And, there’s more…
· Among Obama’s 5 top paid advisors, only 1 is a woman. Among his top 20 advisors, only 7 are women.
· Among McCain’s 5 top paid advisors, 3 are women. And, among his top 20 advisors, 13 are women.
Words are cheap. You do the math….
For all of Barack Obama’s lofty rhetoric about equal pay for equal work and for presenting himself as an advocate for women’s rights, it seems that that such values don’t begin at home, leaving Obama with nothing to show for all of his hopeful talk except a large chasm between his words and the reality of his actions.
Apparently, the change we can believe in is rooted in the salaries of Obama’s female staffers, who are indeed paid in change on every dollar earned by the men he employees.
Data gleaned from LegiStorm, a non-partisan watchdog group that tracks salaries for Capital Hill Staffers.
Grizzly thank you – Barb Barb Barbara Ann —- too funny – you are the first – ok computer off for the night – good night all.
What I’m trying to say, there are women out there who hates to see another woman succeed, especially women like Boxer, Gloria Steinem, Paglia, Maureen Dowd, Christine Pelosi and etc. They’re very territorial, they believe ONLY them has the right to be successful, the rest just have to wait for their turn until they’re freaking dead!
None of these women showed hatred towards Tipper Gore, she belong to their generation. Sarah Palin belong to a different generation.
murphy – i do believe he was the ONLY one, but always good to corroborate facts. but, that’s what i’ve read from several sources (and not u-tube). but, again, never hurts to check for yourself to be sure.
Palin’s defense team getting tough and it’s about damn time.
Anna7000
Good one.
Send when you’re done with it?
Asian4Hillary
I totally get what you are saying. My best friend and I were discussing all the sexism we’ve dealt with in our lives and she said the worst time for her was when she was in med. school working on her PhD and the mistreatment was from female professors she had to work with. Women can be so jealous!
#1069KarenWi: For the record, PumaPac does not formally support McCain or any other candidate. PumaPac is against Obama….Technically, why don’t you write your user name and put Puma after it if you want to make a sign….re McCain…This distinction is held firmly here!
Ok, no sign. I thought I had seen signs like that at other McCain rallies… didn’t know that it was a “no no”. Sorry.
I’m getting the idea nobody here is too happy about being a democrat. Two different days I’ve asked if anyone could define just what democrat is. Only one I reall got was: A democrat is not a republican. LMBO
Ok, so define either one. LOL
#1079 Alice1943 – there is a new post upstairs and some are already out there.
Let me try to define it – Democrats or the party is supposedly representative of common people, farmers, unions, woman, choice, ethinicity, diversity, secular vision. In sharing wealth top down and preserving jobs, lives, environment, flora and fauna.
Republicans are by contract supposed to be representative of wealthy, oil drilling, faith based, men at the helm, corporate mongers, us versus them guys that is not in touch with common folks or their needs, blood suckers that live like leech off poor folks, xenophobic, gun totting, animal killing, environment destroying, kind of guys.
This is not my definition but what I have gathered in my almost decade of living in the US coming in from South Asia. When I say what I have gathered, I mean this is what I get from Hollywood, CNN, MSNBC, TIME, Newsweek, NYT, SF chronicles, Chicago tribune to name a few.
I have hardly seen anybody – americans on the road reflect the above definition.
So there you have it.
No what do I think – Totally the opposite. Dems are now hijacked by ultra left just as people said the repubs became neo-cons. Repubs are the new dems and dems are the new sorry ODEMS
PUMA ACTION ALERT suggestion. I think we should prowl the hell out of the polling companies, Zogby, Rasmussen, Gallup, all of them. Their sampling data does not account for PUMAs. McCain is actually more ahead than the polls show. For example, look at this Rasmussen article that breaks down the sample. In past years a 38 to 33 dem to repub would be representative of the country, but this year, PUMAs (democrats) are effectively voting for McCain. This means that Rasmussen should be sampling more republicans than he is. Obama is actually worse off than Rasmussen’s polls show.
Here is what I just wrote to the Rasmussen contact email address:
“Dear Sirs,
Your daily election poll is faulty because you are not taking into account the PUMAs. You should be polling more republicans, because for this election cycle, PUMAs are voting the McCain/Palin ticket.
Regards,
Godzilla (real name goes here)
#1081 Godzilla;
Actually, the PUMA factor shows up as registered Democrats voting Republican. Look at any breakdown that shows that segment.
#1081 Godzilla
PUMA ACTION ALERT suggestion.
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Also, my guess it that the polls assume that those of us that are and will remain registered as Democrats will vote for our party, what they do not know is most of us will vote Repub at the top of the ballot. Another thing I read is that when the pollsters call people, some are not willing to vote for someone outside their race but are not honest telling that. They take this from an AA in Calif that was up in the polls and was off from 4-6%.
#1081 BILLEJO
Also, my guess it that the polls assume that those of us that are and will remain registered as Democrats will vote for our party, what they do not know is most of us will vote Repub at the top of the ballot. __________
Maybe it is best to keep them in the dark,
WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING!
I love that line from Murphy, and if they don’t see us they won’t fight us, just a thought.
I believe PUMA are properly included in all the polls. What is missing is that everyone I talk to has never heard of PUMA. We are a tiny minority. We need to get people to know who we are. We need a million PUMA or 10 million PUMA.
Although we are very small as an orginized PUMA. There are a few millions who are doing what we are doing. We need to reach them to encourage them to do the right thing and make sure they all vote etc. Support is very important. Seeing that many other people agree with you gives them power to carry out their vote properly.
I am shocked that everyone I tell them I am PUMA and they all say they dont know what that means.
After all how many names are logged on this blog. certainly not the 18 million we represent. most people seem to pay little attention to politics.
I just now watched Campbell interview Lady Rothchild on CNN. Campbell is terrible. kept interrupting her. But I think she got her point across as to some important problems with Obama.
Obamba does seem to be taking advantage of the financial crisis which his lies. Obama is such a ZERO. How is Berg doing on his lawsuit. what is happening in Texas with Barr suing to remove the Dems and Repubs off the ticket for filing a day late.
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