American Women’s History Lessons: September 14th Edition

One of the things I focus on at my own blog is telling the stories of Women’s History. As a teacher, it became obvious to me early on that there was a lot of focus on black history and practically none on women’s history in grades K-12. In fact, I myself had to attend college to learn anything about this fascinating trajectory within history. I was 22 years old before I ever heard the names Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Alice Paul. I swore then that I would do my best to educate as many women as I could about their own compelling history. With that in mind, I offer you the tale of one of the most controversial American women to ever grace our great nation. A leader in business and journalism, she came from a poor and questionable background, but she eventually made her way so high that she directly challenged the existing status quo. That’s what gadflies do.

Victoria Woodhull is a special case, and no other time in our history has been more appropriate to a lesson on her than right now. Maybe it’s because I share her wildness, having come from similar poor and roaming roots. Maybe I have an affinity for her because she was ahead of her time. Whatever the reason, she’s one of my all time favorite historical figures. She was controversial and courageous in so many ways. So indulge me a little if you will (it is Sunday after all), as I tell you the story of a poor girl exploited by her family, who then took on the world with her doe eyes, her rosy cheeks, and her mental acuity, and actually made some progress for women in America.

In her most controversial act, fearlessly, Woodhull declared her candidacy for U. S. President in 1872 (Equal Rights Party), and she had the money to support such a campaign, though not the vote. She was the first woman ever to run for that high office in America. But her origins were much different, and along the way, she left a trail broken barriers. She was nothing like Hillary Clinton, who has always played it straight every day of her life, but she was similarly defiant in the face of criticism, and every bit as accomplished and inspiring.

Victoria California Claflin was born in Homer, Ohio to a rough and ready family. Her father, Reuben, eventually took Victoria and her sister Tennessee on a traveling medicine show, exploiting them for “psychic healing.” Tennessee and Victoria grew very close during this tumultuous, uncertain time, and would remain together throughout their lives. At 15, Victoria married a doctor, Channing Woodhull, whose name she would keep even after they divorced ten years later. They had two children, Byron and Zulu.

Before the divorce, though, Woodhull had moved herself, her sister Tennessee, and her two children to New York City where she began to make connections among wealthy New Yorkers. One of these connections, a certain Mr. Cornelius Vanderbilt, helped finance Victoria in the very first female-run brokerage house in New York City in 1870. Calling it Woodhull, Claflin & Company, she proceeded to expand her empire from there, establishing the Woodhull & Claflin Weekly newspaper shortly thereafter. After success in their brokerage firm, the sisters were given the nicknames “Queens of Finance” and “Bewitching Brokers,” and they quickly earned a notorious reputation for the content of their newspaper. As if it were perfectly normal, the newspaper published articles on “free love,” divorce, sex outside of marriage, and, famously, was the first publication in America to publish the Communist Manifesto.

Of course, this entire time, rumors were swirling within the privileged NYC community (and beyond, due to tabloids) that the sisters were promiscuous or worse, prostitutes, and how their rhetoric was irreligious and immoral. But the sisters didn’t care. They recognized that any publicity was good publicity for women’s rights. And they wanted to be a part of that. Others within the women’s movement disagreed. They thought Woodhull and Claflin were bringing shame and notoriety to the cause of women’s rights, and that it would set it back. I contend that as a matter of history, the sisters were right. They set the margin, quite frankly. Give us rights, or you get more of this. And apparently, it worked, because by 1871, Victoria was giving a speech before Congress.

In fact, she preempted the opening of the National Women’s Suffrage Associations 3rd Annual Convention in Washington D.C., which immediately convened to go see her speak. There she argued such a revolutionary idea–that women already had the right to vote because woman was man’s equal, and thus covered under the Constitution–that many Suffragist leaders, including Stanton and Anthony, immediately invited her to represent their cause. Just as importantly, the argument was powerfully logical to several of the Committee members to which she delivered her speech. Thus, politics was the third realm, after business and publishing, that were traditionally men’s realms, that Victoria had taken on and won.

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917 comments ↓

#1 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 1:39 pm

Good mourning Pumas.

Wow, that was a neat read.

#2 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 1:44 pm

Who wrote the thread text?

#3 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 1:46 pm

New Polls in Ohio shows Mccain 51% BO 44%

#4 annabelle on 09.14.08 at 1:46 pm

I wrote the thread text. And let me tell y’all how difficult that was…

#5 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 1:47 pm

I think women should watch the movie Iron Jawed Angels especially young girls so they’ll understand what women before them had done so they can have their right to vote. Just like freedom, somebody has to pay a high price sometimes with their life, so that others may live. Sometimes we don’t know what we have, until we lose it. (:

#6 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 1:48 pm

I bet it was. You put in a great deal of time. Good work annabelle

#7 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 1:49 pm

REPOST IF ANYONE WANTS TO ACT ON THIS.

I’m faxing this out this morning, don’t know if it will do any good. If anyone wants to participate, be my guest. I would suggest changing the wording. Mine is so long, hope they read it. . Be sure to change to YOUR STATE:

BY FAX
(850) 245-6125
Secretary of State Kurt S. Browning
400 S. Monroe St #P12
Tallahassee, FL 32399

BY FAX
(850) 410-1630
Attorney General Bill McCollum
Office of the Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050

cc; Matthew W. Friedrich, US DOJ, Criminal Div.
By Fax: (202) 514-9412

Subject: Objections to Special Status Granted to the Democratic Party on FL State Ballots

Dear Sir:

As a follow-up to my August 26, 2008 letter, I am again writing to you to protest the state of Florida allowing the Democratic Party access to our state election ballots.

Upon contacting the SOS, I was told that state officials cannot intervene in the internal operations of any political party and was referred to the DNC. Why would I contact the DNC when they are the ones violating their own Rules? To whom do I turn to make them accountable? I am a taxpayer and expect our state officials to act on our behalf when it is obvious citizens are being deprived of their votes. Howard Dean made clear he would do nothing regarding FL & MI stating they violated the Rules by holding primaries out of turn although other states did that as well and they were not punished. However, at the Rules Committee meeting on May 31, the rules were again broken by giving uncommitted delegates to Sen. Obama and taking 4 pledged delegates from Sen. Clinton and giving them to Sen. Obama. After Howard Dean & Nancy Pelosi “selected” Sen. Obama as the nominee by pressuring and threatening super delegates to vote for Sen. Obama, they again changed the Rules to allow FL & MI a full vote.

At the DNC Convention in Denver, the DNC, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and others, threatened and intimidated delegates prior to the Roll Call and did not hold a bona fide floor vote on the nomination. States were not allowed to go in order and others were passed solely for the purpose of keeping Sen. Obama ahead in the delegate count. Delegates were not told that some states had bound laws and they were bound to vote for the person who won the primary on the First Ballot. Investigations are ongoing in this regard.

We spend taxpayer money for elections that are fair and honest, and support the will of the people. The DNC has shown through its nomination of a candidate by dictum that they are not abiding by our state’s principles. Barrack Obama was given the nomination by super delegates without reaching the proper number of pledged delegates needed to secure it. The super delegates do not officially vote until the convention. It is well known that the super delegates did not vote at the convention and a secret ballot was held prior to the floor vote, all against Party rules.

Furthermore, there are widespread reports and investigations of fraudulent voting irregularities in several states. In the Texas caucuses there was massive voter fraud and voter intimidation. In Oregon there were dead people voting. In Los Angeles, gang members were hired to walk neighborhoods and threaten people to vote for Obama. In some southern states there is an investigation of votes being sold for $20.00, or in some cases, for drugs. These problems affect the results of voting in all states, Florida included, i.e. see website http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/

The foregoing fraud was seen by countries all over the world. I am alarmed that a rigged roll call and nomination was allowed to happen in the USA. Our soldiers are dying all over the world for democracy and to give others the privilege to cast an honest vote. Former Pres. Jimmy Carter goes to many countries to monitor elections for fraud, yet he did nothing to stop what was going on in our own country. Jimmy Carter endorsed Obama. No Party should be above the law and as a citizen I expect you to do your job. If it is not your job, then whose job is it? .

The spending of our state tax dollars to allow a private club such as the DNC to pick their own candidate in violation of even their own rules, and run that candidate on our state ballots is outrageous. . I assure you, I intend to work to amend our state laws so that from now on the DNC will not be allowed access to our state ballots without the requisite fees and petitions that the other political parties such as the Green Party or the Libertarian Party must pay and supply, unless they return to holding fair elections based upon votes of citizens.

In the interim, I demand that you revoke the special status that our state laws grant to candidates from the Democratic Party to get on the ballot. I await your response.

#8 goofsmom on 09.14.08 at 1:49 pm

Excellent article annabelle

#9 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 1:50 pm

#4 ANNABELLE Thank you for the excellent post!

#10 PaulHillary on 09.14.08 at 1:51 pm

Good morning,

I wanted to let everyone in the Pennsylvania area know that there is a new action group for women. It sounds really exciting and my friend Daryl is one of the founders. I am hoping that everyone will take a look. They are all former Hillary Clinton people and have started approaching some very strong people in Pennsylvania. Anything you guys can do to help is really great! http://womensactiongroupofpa.com/index.html is the web address! So anything you can do to help is great!

#11 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 1:51 pm

One thing I’ve notice in this country, a lot of people don’t exercise their right to vote; in other countries people die so they can have their right to vote. Something’s wrong with America. I know what its like to lose your right to vote, to lose your voice – it is something you will NEVER forget. Once you get out of it, you make a promise to yourself never to allow it to happen again wherever your fate takes you; your voice becomes a whisper in a crowd. The only thing you can hope is there’s one single soul who heard your whisper.

#12 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 1:54 pm

#10 PaulHillary Welcome Back!

#13 MissyD77 on 09.14.08 at 1:58 pm

Hi Everyone! How are you today?

#14 Susie1945 on 09.14.08 at 2:06 pm

Hi Pumas – I mentioned previously that I was selected an election judge for my city for both the primary just held on 9/9/08 and also for the general election coming up in November. Our primary is usually just a beauty contest – although this year the senate race is turning out to be interesting -

My 2 cents worth – my precinct has 3,368 registered voters – turn out was 289 which included absentee ballots & 18 new voters who registered on 9/9/08 – another 2 cents – if it weren’t for the ‘older’ voters (and I’m one of those) the turnout would have been even more abysmal – looking forward to November 4 – will see if this presidential election is different that all of the rest have been – young voters have never turned out like the predictors always predict -

#15 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:11 pm

Hi eveyone…I have to ask, where is Murphy? Is she ok, she hasn’t been around for a few days!

Went to the Republican HQ today and got a couple of badges. The first one says:

Nobama
Nobiden

The second one I love the best:

O
Crap!

Wore them all through the store today just waiting for someone to say something to me, but no one did, I think I intimate people…

#16 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 2:12 pm

Ohio Lady – I believe someone posted on a prior thread that Murphy is fine, just away for a few days. Not to worry.

#17 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 2:12 pm

Did you guys see this stem cell ad by McCain? Sounds good to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-2ayFo3BXs

#18 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:13 pm

Thank you Anna.

#19 hillaryistheone on 09.14.08 at 2:14 pm

Way to go John and Cindy, they are at the Nacar Race. He just spoke before the words ‘start your engines’. Cindy is a big Nascar fan.

#20 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 2:17 pm

The right stuff.

Palin in Nevada – Sept. 13, 2008 — Sarah wows them in Carson City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp9ozv5u7p4

#21 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:18 pm

The street I live on is mostly O Crap supporters so I got a couple of yard signs too…Democrat for McCain/Palin. I’m going to tie one of them to the rails on the porch because I just know someone will try to remove them.

#22 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:23 pm

Also, I am going to use a magic marker to add to the sign but I don’t know if I should put PumaPac Democrat or just P.U.M.A. Democrat. What do you all think?

#23 CyberFerret52 on 09.14.08 at 2:24 pm

Obama reports 66 million for the month of August. I want his fund raising apparatus investigated! With him sinking in the polls and many of Hillary’s donors refusing to fund his campaign, I want to know where his money is coming from. Someone here on the blog contacted the FBI and they told her that an investigation would have to be requested for them to take any action. Well…how do we go about making a request? Anyone?

#24 annabelle on 09.14.08 at 2:25 pm

Just to show you how committed I am to making sure y’all have good stuff to read, let me tell you how this post came to be.

It was ready to post at 11:30 EDST. I was 90 SECONDS away from hitting publish when the power went out due to windstorms. No problem, hubby and I went to IHOP, which has wifi. Not functioning. So we go to Denny’s. Wifi is also not functioning there. So after having breakfast, I go home to find the power still out. So what do I do? I war-drive for you folks.

War-driving is when you drive around looking for a functional, accessible wifi connection. I found one, and just lost it when the power went out here. So now I’m going to go back to my car, and war-drive some more so I can’t post this comment. Sheesh…I hope you appreciate me for this. :)

#25 annabelle on 09.14.08 at 2:26 pm

FTR, it took me half an hour to find the connection that allowed me to post that last comment. Now my battery is about to die. GRRRRRRRRRR.

#26 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 2:27 pm

Idiot Quote of the Century
‘My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you will join with me as we try to
change it.’ -
Barack Obama

******** That sounds like a Mo quote*********

#27 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:29 pm

#23 CyberFerret52, I don’t know the answer to your question, sorry, but no one seems to be answering any questions today!

#28 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 2:29 pm

#24 annabelle

“War-driving is when you drive around looking for a functional, accessible wifi connection.”

OMG my girl annabelle knows what war driving is. You are the shizznet! That’s killer!

#29 annabelle on 09.14.08 at 2:31 pm

You knoes it, shamptoovta. I might be an old bittter 30-something with a vagina, but I pay attention! :D

#30 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 2:31 pm

Pookie thats got to be the all time high flipflop.roflmao

#31 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:32 pm

#26 Pookie, when did O Crap make that quote?

#32 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 2:32 pm

#24 annabelle

I use my PSP to sniff for open nodes and use them around town. So fun..

This is old but check this
Wi-Fi Detector Shirt

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/illuminated/991e/

#33 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 2:33 pm

Hi PUMAS! I would first like to let you all know I am a Republican and I have been reading your forums daily for a few weeks now. I can honestly say you are a very organized, informed, intelligent group of people. I have become more educated on Barack Obama just from reading your posts. I hope you all would welcome me here as I would love to become involved in your conversations. There are a few things I would like to share with all of you. I worked at an event on Friday night, at an arts festival to hand out McCain/Palin signs, bumper stickers, etc. We had a conversation about Hillary Clinton and the census among the majority of us was that we had gained a new appreciation and respect for Hillary through the democrat primary’s. Many of us were actually rooting for her to win the nomination even though she would have been a much stronger opponent for us to face. We all agree that if the climate of the country were to elect a democrat (yes, I have voted for a few democrats myself) this season, we would have been sad to lose, but comforted in the fact that she would have the best interest of this country close to her heart. Having an Obama presidency is the most FRIGHTENING prospect I think I have ever faced. We also had a meeting yesterday morning to discuss the next month’s campaign activities and we all agreed that we believe Hillary will have a prominant place in a McCain cabinet. We would actually be honored to have her. We are of course ecstatic about Sarah Palin, but having them both working closely together would be beyond our wildest dreams! I am thrilled to have Senator McCain as our candidate this year, for I am not about right and left but right and wrong. If he says he will have democrats and independents in his adminstration, that is exactly what he will do, it is what this country needs. This is why he has driven so many Republicans CRAZY at times for he is not a party hack. I think he will do the right thing for America, republicans, democrats and independents, they will all have a place in OUR government, this is something Senator McCain has always strived for…bipartisanship. I don’t come here as a Republican, just as a friend, a fellow American. I am not here to convince anyone to do anything or vote for anyone. My only concern is an OBAMA presidency. I may not agree with all of Hillary’s policy’s but I would have rested easy at night if she would have ended up being our next President for I know she would take care of America, stand beside her and guide her. I know Senator McCain has always had great respect for her and has always treated her with the dignity she deserves. The sexism being shown in this campaign cycle by the FAR left has no place in this great country and we need to show them just what the saying “never underestimate the power of a woman” is all about. I am fighting for WOMEN this season, we have been shoved aside and degraded long enough. An Obama presidency will be disasterous for our America, if he gets a hold of her, she will never be the same.

#34 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 2:34 pm

30 go_Ohio_Lady I don’t know my family and friends send me that stuff because they know I like to post anything on Bo.

#35 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:35 pm

O Crap gives a whole new meaning to the word “STUPID”.

#36 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.14.08 at 2:38 pm

BBL

#37 stoney42 on 09.14.08 at 2:38 pm

I have been sending e-mails on my own every day to the media, saying I am a Dem that will not vote for BO, or asking about voter fraud. Not sure it does much good, but I do it anyway. I think it is better when we all attack at the same time.

Thanks, Slyt2

#38 gostrumcat on 09.14.08 at 2:39 pm

#11 asian4hillary

I think that is one of the reasons I read all of your posts and respect what you have to say so much. You GET it. We are spoiled because many things come easy to us. The vote is one of those things, because we are so far removed from the struggle we feel entitled and why do we need to bother with voting anyway? That attitude makes me sick because even though I am fortunate enough not to know from experience, I am well read enough to know what others have had to do to get certain rights if they indeed have them at all.

#39 CyberFerret52 on 09.14.08 at 2:39 pm

#27 go_Ohio_Lady Thank you. I’ll keep asking and sooner or later someone may know. It may be just the thing to pry into to further our cause.

#40 jane-pa on 09.14.08 at 2:42 pm

Not sure on the sign what to put. Been thinking about it to no avail. lol I am putting a dem for McCain sign out front as soon as I find one and a puma sign in window. Does that help?where did you get the sign dem for McCain?

#41 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 2:43 pm

#37 gostrumcat ,

I agree with you and asian4hillary 100% about how so many Americans take their freedoms for granted and do not understand the importance of their votes. It is not a right but a priviledge that our forefathers and mothers gave their lives for.

#42 gostrumcat on 09.14.08 at 2:43 pm

#22 go_Ohio_Lady

I’d put PUMA Dem on it, but I guess it depends on where in Ohio you are. I’d have done it in Columbiana County where I grew up and Portage County where I went to college, but probably not in the Cleveland area where I lived before coming to WA state…

#43 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 2:44 pm

10 PaulHillary
Good of you gals to pass on that information. Thank you.

#44 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 2:45 pm

Repost from downstairs
#6 Asian4Hillary
“There’s something I notice about NObama in every speech he delivers heavily covered by the media; “he’s close and yet so far.” He connects with the people for a few minutes like a good lecturer but once a person leaves the lecture room, they can’t remember a damn thing what the lecturer talked about.”

So true! One day a friend at work jokingly said,”Great speech, but what did he say? Something about hope? Hope and change?”, he was laughing but he’ll vote Obama. Sad.

#45 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 2:45 pm

#26 pookie – can you provide the link to that quote? or let me know where it’s from so i can find the speech? thanks.

#46 gostrumcat on 09.14.08 at 2:45 pm

#40 texassherry

That’s my biggest argument against BO. There are so many countries gaining military strength and we’re pissing them off. If we don’t elect a strong President who can keep us safe, we’ll have to go all the way back to the beginning and learn those lessons again.

#47 gina613 on 09.14.08 at 2:46 pm

#23 CyberFerret52
Great idea! We need a prowl to the FBI.

#48 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 2:49 pm

go_Ohio_Lady Lucky you. The Repub Party here has virtually nothing. I would love it if they had pins like that. The woman I spoke to said she was having to buy her own yard signs with her credit card and then sell them to get reimbursed. I’ll have to call her again and see if they have anything I can get. I bought a yard sign/bumper sticker on special from johnmcain.com for $7 with shipping. But I would love buttons.

#49 gostrumcat on 09.14.08 at 2:51 pm

#39 jane-pa

I googled Democrats for McCain right around the time I found PUMA and found a site where I got a Dems for McC bumper sticker. I don’t know more than that as the payment went through Paypal and I didn’t pay attention to who it went to. Mine is on one side of my bumper and my Hillary sticker is on the other side. Folks here in Oly still have Americans for Wes Clark and WWRD? (What Would Reagan Do) stickers on their cars, so I don’t have trouble with mine even though it’s a pro-BO world out here!

#50 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 2:51 pm

Topic: New PUMA site

If you have the url for the site Carrie’s been working on, could you please post it again, I’d like to look at it so I can see what else I can send her for it now, thanks.

#51 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 2:53 pm

http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2008/03/11/quoth-obama.htm

#44 anna 7000 as I posted I received it as a email but go to this link and I guess it is not factual. I should have looked it up before posting it. But when you go to the link look at some of the asinine posts that the obots have on there, they are defending him without even checking to see if the quote is correct. Sorry next time I will check out the quotes about him before posting

#52 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 2:56 pm

#45 gostrumcat,

Yep. I agree again :wink:

#53 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 2:57 pm

cable public access talk shows are an excellent way to get local attention..get on one and let the people know what PUMA stands for!!

#54 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 2:58 pm

Annabelle, thank you for your excellent post. Not many know about the early feminists. We think we have an up-hill battle, but nothing compared with them.

I am an oddity – a feminist and Democratic woman who is pro-life. (I leave a lot of blank spots on election ballots. ) I am not welcome in my own party, but I have refused to be forced out when most of my social values are better represented in the Democratic party. Needless to say, I am used to the feeling of alienation, and a certain sense of detachment has been a shield for me.

However, most do not know that the early feminists were solidly pro-life. They believed in the sacredness of each and every life, and it was what drove them. Feminists for Life has a section of their website on Herstory. If you are interested, it is very good.

I know that this is not a popular stand, and I won’t bring it up again. IHowever, I wanted to add to the sources for the historical roots of feminism.

#55 pumasupporter on 09.14.08 at 2:59 pm

Hey everyone, I saw this website that was selling Sarah Palin clothes and I even saw a Puma 4 Palin shirt. The back of it has the McCain/Palin logo with Palin on the top of the ticket. The site is palinpower.spreadshirt.com. Just figured I’d let you know.

#56 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:00 pm

pookie – thanks. unfortunately, this is the nature of the world we now live in. rumors abound on the internet and some are presented in such a way that makes them appear very legit. then stuff goes viral and before you know it someone tells someone tells someone etc. it’s hard to be a careful consumer of information, as if you have to maintain a level of vigilence and skepticsm while being your own detective. ugh. anyway, thanks again for answering my question. much appreciated.

#57 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 3:03 pm

make no mistake about it..the obama campaign finds itself sinking and it will out of sheer deseration do everything they can to destroy governor palin..because they know from practice that sexism is their most lethal weapon..
they are going after the woman..
this is nothing short than a WAR on women..

#58 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:06 pm

FOR THOSE STILL UNSURE OF THEIR VOTING STRATEGY, ESPECIALLY THOSE CONSIDERING NOT VOTING FOR MC CAIN (and of course it goes w/o saying no one’s voting for bo):

In order to make sure you understand the voting rules and regulations of your state and in order to make sure you don’t allow any window of opportunity to give Obama a single vote not cast for him, you may want to contact your Secretary of State’s office to find out about the voting parameters in your state.

If, when you call, the person you speak with sounds unsure about any of their answers, or prefaces their answer with “I think….” or “I’m pretty sure….”, insist that you speak with someone in the office who can answer you question(s) definitively.

Here is a template to use when making your call.
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -

SoS Phone:

SoS Web Address:

Person I spoke with:

Date and Time:

If I vote for everything except President and leave the President slot empty, will it be counted toward the candidate of the party of which I am a member anyway?

If I am not a member of either major party, how would leaving the President slot blank be counted?

If I write in a name in the President slot that is permitted under CA law, will it be counted toward the person who I write it?

If I write in a name in the President slot that is NOT permitted under CA law, will it be counted anyway, be ignore, or will it go toward another Presidential candidate? If the latter, how is that determined?

Is there any other scenario other than what I’ve described whereby if I don’t vote for one of the Presidential candidates on the ticket, my vote may still be counted toward one of them in some way? If so, please describe.

If I don’t vote for President, but vote for down ticket candidates, is it possible for my ballot to be discounted because it wasn’t complete?

#59 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 3:06 pm

#7 Ladyhawke, wow, right on, ladyhawke..!
p.s. did anyone see my post #49, thanks.

#60 jane-pa on 09.14.08 at 3:06 pm

gostrumcat thanks its a starting place.

#61 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:08 pm

PS As per prior posts, despite the nature of the first two questions on the SoS template, I, for one, wouldn’t recommend leaving the top slot blank due to the risk of someone being able to tamper with your ballot after you cast it.

#62 gostrumcat on 09.14.08 at 3:10 pm

#51 texassherry

Weren’t you also a Buckeye once, or am I thinking of someone else?

#63 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:10 pm

hillstheone – http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx

#64 jane-pa on 09.14.08 at 3:10 pm

pookie or Ohio lady I think there was an u tube on that line he used it in primarys and it has been used as a gaffe few times. does that help?Help me change great nation line I am talking about

#65 diva2 on 09.14.08 at 3:12 pm

#24 Annabelle

Thanks for working so hard to get your post out. My husband using one of those gadgets that you plug into your computer and you can get internet access anywhere. It isn’t too expensive but very worth it. I don’t know how well it works in complicated weather, but it has been great for him. Just an idea!

#66 pumasupporter on 09.14.08 at 3:13 pm

Repost to New Orleans Puma from the “What is Puma” discussion.

“New Orleans Puma, I think that you may have been told some false information. It is a fact that the G.O.P did more for civil rights and women’s rights than the Democrat Party. All you have to do is look back in the old platforms of both Parties. The GOP was the first party to support civil rights and women’s rights in their platform while Democrats EXPLICITLY supported slavery in their platforms. If you’d like, I could get you all the information so that you could see for yourself. We can debate on issues, but there’s no debating a fact. The Republican Party did more than the Democrat Party for civil rights and women’s rights and that’s not a partisan opinion, that is a fact.”

#67 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:14 pm

PS Sorry again. I wrote the voting template for myself, originally, hence references to “CA”. Needless to say, replace with your own state.

#68 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 3:14 pm

#60 Anna7000 I agree with you I have mentioned this to some knowledgeable people and they said it would be taking a big chance to leave it blank. No one knows for sure what dishonest people can do with our ballots. Especially This election.

#69 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:16 pm

Two good things to remember, (I hope I am correct on this) there is no caucus voting in the General Election!

This is were BO scammed the system. He did poorly in almost every other election.

His base- is first time voters of the immature type, so many will not vote for someone they think will be defeated.

#70 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 3:17 pm

Anna,great info should be posted several times a day………..I would hate to think of obama getting any vote because we did not know the rules or procedures.

#49 here is http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx

#71 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 3:20 pm

#61 gostrumcat,

Yep, I am a transplant Texan. I was born in California, raised in Ohio, and have now lived in Texas for 13 years.

People say my southern accent is different than most. That is because it was influenced by West Virginians (which Ohio has a lot of) and Texans.

#72 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 3:22 pm

#61 gostrumcat,

I have a sister that still lives in California. She talks funny because she doesn’t have an accent :lol:

#73 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:23 pm

http://larrysinclairbarackobama.com/?page_id=2

For those of you asking about Larry Sinclair, here is his site and he has a radio show.

#74 NJ1313 on 09.14.08 at 3:23 pm

569 FreddieBrown
I would like to make calls. I received a list from the Election Board “Party Declaration Report” with names, phone #’s, party of voters by town in my County. It is public domain and anyone can request it, but must fill out form to get it. That is for NJ of course.
I would like some help on figuring how to present myself, a script like I used to make calls for Hillary.

#75 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:23 pm

Is anyone here using a Mac computer?

#76 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:24 pm

tennessee – thanks. i added a note on the original piece discouraging voters from leaving the top blank due to risk of voter tampering. i will repost the new and improved version later today per your encouragement! (if anyone gets made at me for reposting a relatively long post, can i blame you?!*)

#77 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:25 pm

no, dances. but if no one answers with a mac and you think there’s any way what you need could be addressed with a pc, let me know. (my very computer savy husband is here and he may know a few tricks!)

#78 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:26 pm

BillieJo and Anna7000

Could you do me a favor?
Click on the Action Center link…
and tell me if the main links are working… and if the formatting is all scrambled?

#79 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:28 pm

Here we go……………………………………..

*** States Restore Voting Rights for Ex-Convicts ***

New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14felony.html?ref=politics

#80 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:29 pm

78 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:26 pm

BillieJo and Anna7000

Will do

#81 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 3:29 pm

#75 DancesWithPumas

I work on a Mac

#82 ChristineRI on 09.14.08 at 3:30 pm

Repost #544 NewOrleansPuma

Check out #179 pumasupporter and:

Republicans and Women
Standing in sharp contrast to the two existing political parties’ present stereotypes regarding minorities and women, once again the Republican Party was the vanguard in relation to women. In 1917, Jeannette Rankin, a Montana Republican, became the first woman to serve in the House. Committed to her pacifist beliefs, she was the only member of Congress to vote against entry into both World War I and World War II.
Shortly after Rankin’s election to Congress, the 19th Amendment was passed in 1919. The amendment’s journey to ratification had been a long and difficult one. Starting in 1896, the Republican Party became the first major party to officially favor women’s suffrage. That year, Republican Sen. A. A. Sargent of California introduced a proposal in the Senate to give women the right to vote. The proposal was defeated four times in the Democratic-controlled Senate. When the Republican Party regained control of Congress, the Equal Suffrage Amendment finally passed (304-88). Only 16 Republicans opposed the amendment.
When the amendment was submitted to the states, 26 of the 36 states that ratified it had Republican-controlled legislatures. Of the nine states that voted against ratification, eight were controlled by Democrats. Twelve states, all Republican, had given women full suffrage before the federal amendment was finally ratified.

#83 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:31 pm

81 GOSUEF4HIL

Oh, excellent.
Would you mind clicking on the Action Center and telling me if the formatting is all whacked out when viewed on a Mac?

#84 tillerylakelady on 09.14.08 at 3:32 pm

Don’t expect Obama to play fair on NOV.4th. In Florida with the new Anti-Voter fraud Law now in place,The NAACP has filed a law suit trying to stop it. We know why. Voters now have to have positive ID. It also has to match their Voter Registration info. This LAW NO MATCH NO VOTE is great. Wish every state had it.

#85 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 3:32 pm

*83 DWP- I went there, everything looks good from where I sit

#86 murphy on 09.14.08 at 3:32 pm

Hey All,

Back from beautiful North Carolina — wow southerners are nice.

Our rental car broke down 1/2 hour from the airport and we thought we’d miss our flight. rescued by two good samaritans — a North Carolina State coach and his wife drove us all the way to the airport, helped us check our bags and didnt leave until we were safe through boarding.

GO WOLFPACK!

#87 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:32 pm

Dances, all looks good and lined up except:

McCain attacks Clinton supports with VP Pick………..or
something like that near the bottom on right.

VP is way off to the left side.

Links I tried were good.

#88 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:33 pm

gosue… thank you! Just in time for Murphy’s return! LOL

#89 murphy on 09.14.08 at 3:34 pm

A million thank you’s to annabelle.

there was ZERO internet connection, so I’ll be reading the comments from the weekend all evening.

Have I been fired?

#90 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:34 pm

#86 murphy

Welcome home Murphy, I missed you. Glad you had a great tip except at the end and met some great folks.

#91 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:34 pm

dances -

AMAZING WORK!

all looked fine, except:

1. “Boycotts” had Denver info.

2. “Media contacts” only had first link underlined in blue, but maybe you’d need to highlight it all and cut and paste into e-mail. not sure.

#92 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:35 pm

87 BillieJo
Thank you. I noticed that myself. It was part of the original page. I tried to fix it and couldn’t. The webmaster will have to deal with it. I ‘ve had my hands full just doing my part. lol

#93 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:36 pm

dances – i went through the stuff asap so i could give you a quick answer. if there’s anything specific you want checked out, post here and will go check.

DANCES – AGAIN, I HAVE TO SAY – WHAT YOU DID IS AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!

#94 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:36 pm

Have I been fired?
———————-
uh, no. Actually you’ve been promoted, with a substantial raise in salary to boot!

#95 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:36 pm

Had to repost, I think this is very big!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we go……………………………………..

*** States Restore Voting Rights for Ex-Convicts ***

New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14felony.html?ref=politics

#96 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 3:37 pm

#86 murphy ,

Welcome back. A lot of good prowl ideas have been submitted since you were gone. I hope some of them can be materialized into prowls.

#97 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 3:37 pm

HELP WANTED :
Is there anyone who is good at writing to help us out ?
We need a talking template to initiate conversation with people about voting Anti Obama. Several versions would be great. We can pick and choose which one is applicable at any given time. See post below:
Sorry, I am working on Sunday as well but I will try to post some ideas and perhaps we can gather them all up and have Dances put it in the action center.

#74 NJ1313 on 09.14.08 at 3:23 pm

569 FreddieBrown
I would like to make calls. I received a list from the Election Board “Party Declaration Report” with names, phone #’s, party of voters by town in my County. It is public domain and anyone can request it, but must fill out form to get it. That is for NJ of course.
I would like some help on figuring how to present myself, a script like I used to make calls for Hillary.

#98 gostrumcat on 09.14.08 at 3:37 pm

#71 texassherry

That’s funny! I used to say I was first generation Ohioan on my Dad’s side because he and his parents were born in WV and my mom’s dad was born there too. It’s certainly a different kind of flow for sure!

#99 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 3:38 pm

Hi all, been out of town but am back to start prowling! I have a few democratic emails to share with you. Just received this one;

There’s so much at stake in this election (you bet there is)– fixing our economy, solving the energy crisis, dealing with climate change, and restoring America’s position in the world. (and keeping dishonest politicians out of office)

You and I know that.(agree on that last line) But John McCain is trying to distract voters from the real issues. (oh please, is that the best you can come up with?) And he’s willing to take the low road by making cheap personal attacks (ahem, lipstick and pig, recall that Barack?) and lying outright about Barack and his record(OMG, what record? broken record is the only one that I can find for Obama).

It’s up to each of us(right about that, US PUMAS) to talk to voters across the country and make sure they know what this election is really about (fraud, corruption, lies, sexism, hatered, biased opinions from MSM, want more?) — especially in a battleground state like yours (OHIO SAYS PLUCK OFF OBAMA).

We have an exciting new tool called Neighbor to Neighbor (can’t wait to call MY neighbors!)that makes it easy to talk to potential supporters in your community about Barack and the issues that matter (I will let them know that Obama is an empty suit).
Nothing is more powerful than having undecided voters hear from ordinary people. (oh, I am SO ordinary!) And right now, that’s needed more than ever. (you got it….sweetie)

No prior experience is required.(kind of like Obama’s resume’) Neighbor to Neighbor gives you a list of potential supporters,(LOL-NOT) suggested topics to talk about, (more voter fraud) and an easy way to report back on who you’ve contacted(oh, why so he can BUY votes in OHIO?).

With less than eight weeks until Election Day, (Obama will FAIL) we can’t allow voters to lose focus on the big issues (ALL THE ABOVE ISSUES) and get swept up by the smears and lies coming out of the McCain campaign. (Oh, you people just are not RIGHT! Talk about liars, look at yourself in the mirror!)

********************************************
They leave a link for me to click on to try to do his dirty work but, this is one democrat who says….”If it looks to good to be true than it probably is!”

#100 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:38 pm

Anna7000
will look into the feedback… in a minute or hour or so ;)
I have more to add, but I wanted to get something up… something useful, while I add more info.

Thank you for the compliment!

#101 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 3:39 pm

McCain ahead 20 points in the electoral college:

http://realclearpolitics.com/

Still need to work on some of these swing states, we are still way too close for comfort.

I say we up the ante, let’s not just look for an Obama loss this year but let’s make it a sweeping loss, I would like to see him loose as many states as possible.

I am in Az but think I will concentrate on N.M., as it is a neighbor and Judas has been there pontificating about the chosen one since when? March? Lots of hispanic voters, we need to concentrate on- along w/ us bitter females over 40, the Latino vote will be a big decider this year.

#102 scarlet on 09.14.08 at 3:40 pm

Florida may be falling from Obama’s grasp
By Adam C. Smith, Times Political Editor
In print: Saturday, September 13, 2008

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article808637.ece

#103 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:41 pm

93 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 3:36 pm dances – i went through the stuff asap so i could give you a quick answer. if there’s anything specific you want checked out, post here and will go check.
———————————————————–
Nothing specific. I just needed to know if it was way out of whack on other people’s machines. I know there are glithces… uneven spacing between categories on main page, etc… but I need a short break right now, and will approach again when my head had defragged.

#104 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 3:42 pm

BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:28 pm Here we go……………………………………..

*** States Restore Voting Rights for Ex-Convicts ***

New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14felony.html?ref=politics

I want to know what percentage is Black?

#105 Missy on 09.14.08 at 3:44 pm

#69 BillieJo

Two good things to remember, (I hope I am correct on this) there is no caucus voting in the General Election!

This is were BO scammed the system. He did poorly in almost every other election.

************************

I agree — and most of the caucus states were red states — which was the exact point that Hillary was trying to desperately make with the public, MSM and the DNC. He just can’t close the deal. (Hopefully!)

#106 murphy on 09.14.08 at 3:46 pm

wow wow wow.

dances the ACTION Center is amazing. that was a LOT of work.

holy smokes — Prowling will be easier than ever now!

#107 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:47 pm

Thanks, Murphy.

#108 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 3:48 pm

11 Asian4Hillary We lost our vote in 2000. If you remember, Gore won the popular vote (that is-OUR vote) It happened again in 2004 and may happen again this year.

#109 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 3:49 pm

WELCOME BACK MURPHY, WE MISSED YOU. ALTHOUGH ANNABELLE IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

#110 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 3:50 pm

#104 bythelake Blacks make up most of the felons, with Hispanics a close second.

#111 Doctor Di on 09.14.08 at 3:51 pm

Hi PUMAs,

Annabelle … Thanks for a very eloquent and thoughtful post.

To #33 girlsrule… Thanks for your positive Hillary comments and a GOP perspective. You’re right … an Obama presidency is a very frightening thought!

#112 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 3:53 pm

I hope everyone sees post #33 so you will know who I am. I wanted to share a video with all of you titled “Dear Mr. Obama” by an Iraq War Veteran named Specialist Joe Cooke. It is VERY powerful and I have been writing to find someone who could fund this for tv. It has almost 6 1/2 million views on you tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

#113 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 3:55 pm

Anna7000,
just changed “boycotts”… thanks! And, yes, media contacts only teh first email address is live linked.
I decided to leave it as it was and let people copy and past for now. You can see how densely populated that emai listing is, and frankly, I just didnt have it in me to go through them all.

Thanks again for all your help!

#114 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 3:56 pm

#95 BillieJo I heard you , I have been posting about this for a month now, and haven’t gotten a response, I saw a interview about it on TV

#115 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:57 pm

#104 bythelake
Here we go……………………………………..

*** States Restore Voting Rights for Ex-Convicts ***

New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14felony.html?ref=politics

I want to know what percentage is Black?
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Here are a few parts of the article that might give you a hint:

Striding across a sweltering strip-mall parking lot with her clipboard in hand, Monica Bell, a community field organizer in Orlando, Fla., was looking for former convicts to add to the state’s voter rolls.

“I can’t vote because I got three felonies,” Mr. Benton told Ms. Bell. He had finished a six-month sentence for possession of $600 worth of crack cocaine, he said. But Ms. Bell had good news for him: The Florida Legislature and Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican, changed the rules last year to restore the voting rights of about 112,000 former convicts.

Felony disenfranchisement — often a holdover from exclusionary Jim Crow-era laws like poll taxes and ballot box literacy tests — affects about 5.3 million former and current felons in the United States

A loose-knit group of national organizations working to restore voting rights includes the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn (Ms. Bell’s employer); the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People; and the Brennan Center for Justice.

Charles J. Ogletree Jr., a Harvard law professor and senior adviser to the Obama campaign on criminal justice issues, said he had briefed campaign officials about felony disenfranchisement issues and the various and often-confusing state requirements to restore voting rights to former convicts.

Last month, Obama campaign workers took down a sign at their headquarters in Pottstown, Pa., that said “Felons can vote,” because it might have sent the wrong message.

#116 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 3:58 pm

Felony disenfranchisement — often a holdover from exclusionary Jim Crow-era laws like poll taxes and ballot box literacy tests — affects about 5.3 million former and current felons in the United States

How many PUMAs are there……………… could wipe out our vote.

#117 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 3:59 pm

In case Redskins here.J.Campbell pass short middle to S.Moss for 67 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
#112 girlsrule Oh I saw that the other day it was very powerful ad then when he walks away and you see his leg…. Anyone who hasn’t see it click on the youtube

#118 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 4:00 pm

116 BillieJo
But not all felons are having their voting privileges restored, only the 112,000 in Florida.

#119 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 4:01 pm

#114 slyt2

#95 BillieJo I heard you , I have been posting about this for a month now, and haven’t gotten a response, I saw a interview about it on TV
———-
Now we are on the same page, I am going to email the link to Republican websites as my own prowl. Put it on the Drudge already.

#120 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 4:05 pm

#118 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 4:00 pm

116 BillieJo
But not all felons are having their voting privileges restored, only the 112,000 in Florida.
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affects about 5.3 million former and current felons in the United States, according to voting rights groups. But voter registration and advocacy groups say that recent overhauls of these Reconstruction-era laws have loosened enough in some states to make it worth the time

Dances- other states can be involved, and the laws change pretty quickly. Also, if these felons go into vote, same day voting, who can check if they are eligible in time?

#121 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 4:09 pm

120 BillieJo

But, but, but… aren’t most felons Republicans? ;) (kidding…sorta).
Good points. Thanks.

#122 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:10 pm

Is Hillary clinton on drugs? As I watch her campaigning for Obama, she sure doesn’t look or sound the same as she did in the primaries. Her voice just kinda drones on in a monotone and makes ya wanna change the channel.

#123 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 4:11 pm

It takes a lot of COURAGE to stand up against a party you’ve embraced for years, you’ve promised your loyalty. What are you going to do when the said party no longer stand up for what you believe in but rather oppresses you, would you still support it?

There are no tyrants where there are no slaves.

Abuse to your own person can only happen and continue if you allow the abuser to keep on doing without repercussions coming from you; it goes the same thing with politics and politicians. You discipline a child when they misbehave, you tell them to stand up in the corner and ponder what they’ve done; you should do the same with politicians.

Loyalty to a political party and politicians has its limitations, you must learn to draw the line. When you put their own well being ahead of you, you’d pay a price, a price you can’t afford. I know what it means, those that comes before me was negligent and allow the abuse and manipulation of the powerful to bring the whole country down to its knees; it was my generation who had to pay the heavy price so the future generation don’t have to suffer what my generation had gone through. When you lose it, it would take blood to gain it back, it will never come easy, it requires all the courage you have, from the tip of your hair to the tip of your toes, it requires real devotion, real commitment that if giving up your life is required, you will not hesitate to give it.

The more I learn about the Democratic Party, the more they remind me of my own nightmare. I see in the party I used to embrace a high probability of a tyrant, such a beguiling tyrant. Always be true to yourself. At the end of the day, the only one who’ll be there for you is you.

Use plain common sense when you cast your vote this November, think what is best for you and your family, not what is best for your political party.

#124 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:11 pm

101 Gosuef4Hill – McCain may be up 20 points, but Obama is up 18.5 points. End result, the race is super, super close. Saying McCain is “up 20 points” sounds like there’s a 20 point gap between him and Obama,which isn’t the case. Not sure how you intended it, but could easily be mistakenly perceived that way.

#125 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:11 pm

101 Gosuef4Hill – McCain may be up 20 points, but Obama is up 18.5 points. End result, the race is super, super close. Saying McCain is “up 20 points” sounds like there’s a 20 point gap between him and Obama,which isn’t the case. Not sure how you intended it, but could easily be mistakenly perceived that way.

#126 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 4:13 pm

#122 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:10 pm

Is Hillary clinton on drugs? As I watch her campaigning for Obama, she sure doesn’t look or sound the same as she did in the primaries. Her voice just kinda drones on in a monotone and makes ya wanna change the channel.
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Tea leaves, Hillay doesn’t want Barry to win and she isn’t good at BS.

#127 john on 09.14.08 at 4:13 pm

Obama continue to look for ways to steal this election

Bad Voter Applications Found: Clerks See Fraudulent, Duplicate Forms From Group

Several municipal clerks across the state are reporting fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications, most of them from a nationwide community activist group working to help low- and moderate-income families.
continue reading: http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#128 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:14 pm

EVERYONE!!!!!!

We have a new Action Center with fabulous resources thanks to days and days and days and days of work that Dances did on behalf of PUMApac. I suggest a standing ovation for her right now!

#129 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 4:16 pm

#122 Alice1943 wrote:

“Is Hillary clinton on drugs? As I watch her campaigning for Obama, she sure doesn’t look or sound the same as she did in the primaries. Her voice just kinda drones on in a monotone and makes ya wanna change the channel.”

Poor thing. It sounds like she is just laying there and staring at the sealing, saying ” Just get it over with.”

Flip’n Color Purple. Poor thing.

#130 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 4:17 pm

billi jo..
not only do i think violent felons and gang bangers should be denied the right to vote I also think their citizenship should be taken away..by some drug dealers because he was
hetre in california crminals and gangs are a huge and extremely dangerous threat to everybody.. just recently a 22 year old mexican amerirican councilman was assasinated because he based his campiagn on getting tough with gangs..

#131 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 4:18 pm

#128 Anna7000 wrote:
“EVERYONE!!!!!!

We have a new Action Center with fabulous resources thanks to days and days and days and days of work that Dances did on behalf of PUMApac. I suggest a standing ovation for her right now!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M1c7itPy3Y&feature=related

#132 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 4:18 pm

#120 BillieJo…I wonder how many felons, will actually vote? I would think very few but I wonder if there are any statistics on this?

#133 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 4:23 pm

#33 girlsrule

I too am an R who has been reading the PUMA blog. I am disturbed by the thought of an OBAMA administration…if the way he treated Hillary (whom I have much respect for) is the way he treats all women, well, it’s just not a pretty thought…

PUMA’s, you are truly an amazing group!

#134 Middle age female on 09.14.08 at 4:24 pm

MURPHY:

How many did you convert to Puma’s while you were gone. LOL

#135 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:24 pm

What scares me the most about Obama is….George Bush. Looking back over the last 8 years, I remember all the time it seemed like bush just ignored the will of the people to do as he pleased. I remember all the ‘vacations’ and trips around the world. He has laid the groundwork for future despots. It’s probably been that way with every president. (Actually, I remember how upset people were at the incredible,expensive, waste of money Bill clinto spent on his inauguration with the five fancy Ball, when everyone wondered why he couldn’t have just one).
But, once they get into office, the voters no longer have any voice in what they do. Bush set a precedent for the abuses of power and I’m sure Obama would make him look small in comparison. Really scary stuff!

#136 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 4:24 pm

:::::::::::: curtsey:::::::::::

Three days. ;)

#137 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:26 pm

132 BarbNOBO Seems like it would depend on how much they hate the ‘system’ and how badly they want to see a black president.

#138 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 4:26 pm

the obama campaign is going for the jugular they are furiously attacking sarah palin in the media..
we cannot stand by and let them do that again ..they robbed hillary ..now those pack of thieving jackals are doing it to sarah…

#139 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 4:26 pm

131 shampoovta
LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!
good one!
Thanks. LOL

#140 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:27 pm

humble woman.
anyway,
days and days and days = 3
perfect!

#141 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 4:28 pm

#108 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 3:48 pm 11 Asian4Hillary We lost our vote in 2000. If you remember, Gore won the popular vote (that is-OUR vote) It happened again in 2004 and may happen again this year.

==

In General election, it is the electoral votes that count not the popular vote. In primary election, popular vote is the deciding factor who’ll be the nominee.

#142 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 4:31 pm

#141 Asian4Hillary ,

This year in the primaries it was the delegate vote that counted because if the popular vote counted then Hillary would be the nominee.

#143 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 4:31 pm

IMHO….given the urgency and magnitude of the threat americans are facing with a possible obama presidency PUMAS in my opinion should make a temporary united front with the GOP and other NOBAMA groups in order to protect our country..
we should coordinate with them and have high level talks as to how we can work together to stop obama

#144 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:31 pm

130 osaka puma I wish EVERYONE could be educated about the incredibly extensive power that the gangs and criminal element, just in California, exert over the law enforcement agencies, corrections department and governing bodies. It was bad when I lived there in the 60′s but has grown exponentially with the population and is now very much reminiscent of Mexico and third world countrys. To get what they want, they simply threaten the victims families. I had friends who left the state because of such threats.
I have no doubts that many of the people who threaten others at voting registration and the caucuses and primaries were those kind of people.

#145 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:32 pm

“In primary election, popular vote is the deciding factor who’ll be the nominee.”

Sadly, this was not the case this year and, technically, is not the case any year. It boils down to delegates.

So, we truly have no system whereby the popular vote wins the day. It may, but no guaranteees.

#146 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:32 pm

“In primary election, popular vote is the deciding factor who’ll be the nominee.”

Sadly, this was not the case this year and, technically, is not the case any year. It boils down to delegates.

So, we truly have no system whereby the popular vote wins the day. It may, but no guaranteees.

#147 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 4:34 pm

Hillary must be exhausted and depressed. I am her age, and I cannot imagine how she kept going through the primary at that amazing clip.

The fact that she is out there is nothing short of amazing. On another thread, someone commented that she does not look quite as good as she did during the primary. The fact is that it is doubtful that she can afford to keep her assistant or that it would be a good use of her money. How much of her campaign debt is left? Of all the contributions, I feel that should be at the top of our list.

#148 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:34 pm

In General election, it is the electoral votes that count not the popular vote. In primary election, popular vote is the deciding factor who’ll be the nominee.

#149 Middle age female on 09.14.08 at 4:36 pm

Like I mentioned earlier – the Rep’s will NEVER allow happen to Palin what the Dem’s allowed to happen to Hillary.

I feel the more BO tries to dig up dirt on Palin, the more voters defend her. At this point, I have the feeling even if he could dig up horrible stuff on Palin, few would care, because they would dig in even deeper to defend her. The Dem’s should learn a lesson here on how to treat a lady – something they never learned with Hillary.

And, make no mistake about it, the Rep’s know how to get down and dirty – they have had a lot more practice at it.

#150 GAPeach on 09.14.08 at 4:36 pm

Does anyone else remember during the primaries when the press was constantly reporting statistics showing that professional, educated people were voting for Obama and the uneducated, blue-collar people were voting for Hillary? They’d show some hillbilly saying he wouldn’t vote for Obama because he was black. I was so bothered by this because the insinuation was clear and it was unfair to use someone who obviously did not reflect the average voter to explain why people were voting the way they were. Why does the media insist on putting down groups of people, especially hard working people? I wonder if they’ll do this again since Palin is a small town girl–who knows how to use a gun?

#151 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:37 pm

146 Anna7000 Then, sadly, it matters little what we think or who we vote for. Democracy in america has died and a monster is taking it’s place.
I knew I would live to see the end of life as I have always known it.

#152 Middle age female on 09.14.08 at 4:37 pm

148 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:34 pm In primary election, popular vote is the deciding factor who’ll be the nominee.
**********
Unfortunately, if that were really true, Hillary would be the nominee.

#153 murphy on 09.14.08 at 4:38 pm

shampoovta #131

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M1c7itPy3Y&feature=related

brilliant! bravo Dances!

or is it Brava?!

also thank you to anna7000 bc she ran herd on dances and everyone to keep the resources coordinated.

;-)

#154 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 4:38 pm

#148 Alice1943 ,

Actually for the Democratic party it is the DNC that decides the nominee :sad:

#155 Middle age female on 09.14.08 at 4:39 pm

150 GAPeach on 09.14.08 at 4:36 pm Why does the media insist on putting down groups of people, especially hard working people?
**************
Because they have gotten away with it for years.

#156 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 4:40 pm

alice…
gangs and criminals are everywhere in california..our state is infested with them.than extreme danger to the american way of life ..so much that we need to declare WAR on these elements because they have declared war on US..
this is deadly serious ..california is already becoming like a third world country..
my proposal is to take away citizenship from violent felons and gang bangers..emprison them or deport them to countries that will take a stipend fee from us to keep them in their countries…send blacks to siberia..whites to africa and hispanics to eastern europe..
we also need to NOT ALLOW visitor priveleges to gang leaders in state prisons because they are the command centers for murder and other dangerous crimes.. we have got to get serious about this problem because its going to destroy us sooner or later

#157 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 4:41 pm

Dear Newsmedia,

Two critical issues may affect the outcome of the November General Election:

1. Same day voter registration and voting in many states.
2. States restore voting rights for ex-convicts.

Both of these issues will help the Obama campaign if Republican’s are not active in these areas.

3. Here is an article that just came out about item #2 above
States restore voting rights for ex-convicts. -

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14felony.html?ref=politics

——–

There are many articles out about the pitfalls and potential fraud of same day registration and voting, here are a couple articles to give you a heads up:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122125136545029511.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Wall Street Journal – Ohio Republicans Use Lawsuit
To Fight for State’s Crucial Votes

http://www.demos.org/page52.cfm
Election Day Registration (EDR), also known as “Same Day Registration,” permits eligible citizens to register and vote on Election Day.

Please warn fellow Republican’s of this potential manipulation of the election.
Thank you for your time and concern.
xxxx xxxxx

(Prowl I am doing now to Republican websites, hope others will follow, you can use my letter or edit or make your own links.)

#158 Luckyseven on 09.14.08 at 4:43 pm

Great job Annabelle.
Here for just a second then must leave.
Better site for Larry Sinclair is:

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

#159 antifish on 09.14.08 at 4:44 pm

According to the Daily Kooks:

“CHICAGO – Senator Barack Obama’s campaign announced today that more than half a million new donors contributed to the Obama campaign during the month of August, bringing the total raised for the month to over $66 million and the cash on hand to more than $77 million. More than 2.5 million people have contributed to the campaign”

So if he had 66M, raised 66M and now has only 77M, this means he spent 55M in August! Wow! For all that he is trailing in the polls? Is anyone out there reading this? Are you still giving him money? If so, seek help!

My God, I can’t wait to see his expenditures!

#160 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 4:46 pm

VAKatforPalin….nice to meet you! I come over here because I am so impressed with the organization, determination and strength of all the PUMAS. There is a wealth of credible information over here. You know if the democrats ran their primary’s with the same rules as the republicans, Hillary would have won the nomination….just some food for thought, she won ALL the big states and was kicking his a** at the end of the primaries.

#161 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 4:46 pm

142 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 4:31 pm #141 Asian4Hillary ,

This year in the primaries it was the delegate vote that counted because if the popular vote counted then Hillary would be the nominee.

=====

Actually Hillary won in popular and delegate votes, the DNC gave the uncommitted in Michigan to NObama, then stole 4 delegates from Hillary. When Edwards endorsed NObama, he also gave all his delegates to him. What made it TRAGIC for voters; superdelegates and DNC people are pushing for Hillary to quit, but she didn’t. What Hillary had done, totally disregarding pressure from her own party which many have forgotten, she GAVE VOICE TO THE PEOPLE; come hell and high water all voters must be heard; that REQUIRES a lot of courage. I salute Hillary for doing the right thing for the people, she has TESTICULAR FORTITUDE more than those men in DNC and women like Pelosi or Brazille. Hillary is a FIGHTER, she did not yield even to the point of embarassing herself as spinmeisters chant 24/7. She was under tremendous pressure, her own party abandoned her; the only people who stand up beside her was Bill Clinton and WE Hillary supporters.

It was very hard for me to watch her being treated viciously by NObama, Nobama campaigners and supporters and the media. I will never forgive them what they’ve done to her.

NObama due to his hunger for power evokes hatred from those who listen to him, as he himself is the source of such hatred he playfully spread out throughout his campaign continue doing it.

#162 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 4:47 pm

antifish -

perhaps a new mental health diagnostic category should be added to the DSM called:

persistent donations to failing campaign syndrome

#163 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 4:48 pm

#121 DancesWithPumas i heard different when they interviewed most our democrats and (not trying to offend anyone stating the facts) AA’s.

#164 antifish on 09.14.08 at 4:51 pm

#162 Anna,

LOL!

#165 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 4:52 pm

isnt it a nascent form of terrorism when many of us at this juncture are scared and worried that we will be threatened ,intimidated or have our property vandalized by obama supporters..
you think its bad now?? just wait and see what will happen to you if obama gets his hands on the presidency.. this obama movement has many unsavory people in it who could easily be persuaded to jack you up for any reason they feel warrants
you are against terrorism..then you should seriously get behind mccain palin because they are the ONLY FIREWALL now that can protect us.

#166 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 4:53 pm

This is funny as all heck. Can you imagine these 2 running against each other in 2012? Comedy gold!

I would love to see that.

I know Huffpo thinks this works for Nobama but he is only on a campain button in this. Obama is history.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/13/tina-fey-as-sarah-palin-o_n_126249.html

#167 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 4:55 pm

girlsrule….back at you!

The treatment of HRC was absolutely terrible and the media has continued that with Sarah. It just goes to show that all is not equal when it comes to men and women, and as women, we have to continue to fight the fight…. with McCain/Palin hopefully we will have a chance…

I watched the DNC and the RNC and I was shocked as to “the chosen ones” arrogance. I try to have an open mind with politics and not just vote the party line, but he was just a little too much. I also think that he KNOWS Hillary is a very strong, very intelligent and decisive woman and he didn’t want to be upstaged by her.

I learned of the PUMA’s when Geradine F. talked about the group on FoxNews. When I found the web and blog, I was totally impressed. I work in DC and let me tell you, our government needs a total shake up! And to hear all the information on why Hillary was not the Dem nominee is just astounding….

#168 murphy on 09.14.08 at 4:56 pm

annabelle, this is a beautiful post.

one of my longish-term plans for Puma PAC is to write an elementary and middle school curriculum on women’s rights/women’s history.

I was shocked and dismayed after watching Iron Jawed Angels. Shocked because I had never even HEARD of Alice Paul and dismayed because my two older kids, products of gold-star public schools have studied the civil right movement for five years in a row (which is a good thing!) but have no frickin clue that there even WAS a women’s movement.

Annabelle, I think you should write it.

#169 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 4:58 pm

167 VAKatforPalin

Welcome!
We’ll have to send a thank you note to Geraldine Ferraro!

#170 LotusBoy on 09.14.08 at 4:59 pm

#159 antifish – Good point!

AND to OBOTS or Worshippers of the BO dynasty – This is also a precursor of Federal Spending that would be unleashed in BO’s presidency.
There is still time to come out of the kool-aid. Act now or feel sorry later.

#171 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 5:00 pm

#151 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 4:37 pm

146 Anna7000 Then, sadly, it matters little what we think or who we vote for. Democracy in america has died and a monster is taking it’s place.
I knew I would live to see the end of life as I have always known it.
—————-
Ladies, ladies………….take a deep breath. This is not the end of Democracy…………. this is the end of the year of corruption in the DNC and our party. If PUMAs gave up and accepted this election was over………we wouldn’t all still be here on the blog working our paws into nubs. Nubs………but our claws are still sharp. Kick back and enjoy the ride.

#172 ladyhawkke on 09.14.08 at 5:00 pm

THANK YOU DANCES!!!

#173 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 5:01 pm

This will make you vomit but I am not so sure I believe the writer was a PUMA, it seems a little coontrived to me…

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/14/1456/12347/455/598560

#174 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 5:02 pm

#168 murphy on 09.14.08 at 4:56 pm

I think our public schools should teach our children about the Women’s movement, if they don’t know how women like Alice Paul change our country, they’ll never understand the relevance of electing a woman up to the Whitehouse.

I grew up in Asia, when I was in grade school we were taught about our heroes and that includes women who gave up their lives for freedom. When a woman run for President, the people never hesitate to vote for her. When powerful men try to oust her through coup d etat, the one who stand up beside her are men and women, but majority are men.

For a society to be considered as advanced or modern, they must first treat women as equal with their men; that she too can aspire for the highest office of the land and achieve it.

#175 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 5:04 pm

Good article by a former Hillary supporter and female Psychologist about putting gender first…

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.palin14sep14,0,4638337.story

#176 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 5:05 pm

Re: girlsrule’s comment

I know a lot of Republican women because of my pro-life stance. My experience (take it for what it is worth) is that none of the Republicans I knew wanted Hillary to win because it was perceived that it would be a slam dunk win for the Democrats all down the line. At the same time, these same women were truly disturbed by the treatment that she was receiving from the media. (They did not “get” the inside the Party game at all.) They did not see Hillary as ever changing her stance on pro-life but they were horrified (as am I) by Obama’s record on this issue. And finally, they were never concerned about Hillary’s ability to manage the actual job of President. They gnerally saw her as a moderate. I have heard of the “hatred” of Republicans towards Hillary. Because of the people I am involved with are a subset of Republicans, I did not encounter that emotion. I did encounter the hope she wold not be selected because she would win! And finally, the fact that she was not offered the position of VP was stunning; they instantly undertood it was a bad decision on Obama’s part and could cost him the election. That was before Palin was on the horizon.

#177 LayawayLou on 09.14.08 at 5:06 pm

I think that someone should do something with the electorial college and allow the people to elect their own president. This is all just a game for them to try and destroy our country.

Does anyone want to attempt this or have the knowledge. Im sure that I dont but have thought this for several years.

This would stop alot of this garbage..

#178 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 5:08 pm

VAKatforPalin…I live in Virginia too, central Virginia!!! I come to DC occasionally to Walter Reed. We must get together for a McCain/Palin rally, would love to go with some PUMAS, it would be GIRL POWER!!!!! Here are links for everyone who has not seen the National Press Club by Larry Sinclair, it has six parts:

Larry Sinclair National Press Club:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUNEip42xsM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw2hc05HwPw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ13qyFup98&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AfVPvASc_4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYin6nMAz-o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeyYWr4Jao&feature=related

#179 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:09 pm

billi jo..
american democracy is not totally dead..it is on life support now..
america is at the gate of hell.. the economy, social and political degeneracy ,corruption,drugs,crime ,job losses by the millions due to outsourcing..
we are in serious trouble here people..
obama represents thefinal straw that will break the camels back unleashing a new american style of fascism that will only create an explosive divisive reaction
in the guise of food riots and race wars ..
look at whats happening in LA with the low intensity race wars.. that will give you a sneak preview of whats in store for america
we have to stop obama!!!!!!

#180 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 5:12 pm

#169 DanceswithPumas

Geraldine has been a very good marketer for the PUMAs…

#176 PumaPal

As an R, you are correct! Hillary would have been a VERY strong opponent and one we weren’t sure we could overcome BUT we absolutely hated the way she was treated and we didn’t even know the “inside politics” stuff…

#181 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:12 pm

Hey, Billie Jo – I didn’t write the dramatic statement about the “end of democracy”. Someone was referencing something I said. From where I sit, our system has been as it’s been for a very long time in terms of how votes get translated into delegates or electoral college votes. This year was the result of corruption within the Obama campaign and the DNC, and, perhaps, the drawbacks of having a caucus system during the primaries.

#182 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 5:14 pm

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http://toledo.craigslist.org/rnr/840579092.html

#183 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 5:15 pm

Ok this is really good my husband found..sorry me no speak well lol

#184 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:18 pm

LayawayLou – I think Clinton actual tried to take this issue on very early in her career as a US Senator, which was around the same time as the whole mess with Gore and Bush and Florida and hanging chads. Anyway, my impression was that she was lamblasted for being too overly reactive. Ugh.

#185 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:18 pm

LayawayLou – I think Clinton actual tried to take this issue on very early in her career as a US Senator, which was around the same time as the whole mess with Gore and Bush and Florida and hanging chads. Anyway, my impression was that she was lamblasted for being too overly reactive. Ugh.

#186 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:20 pm

the question now is will hillary clinton become part of the problem or part of the solution…

#187 murphy on 09.14.08 at 5:22 pm

billie jo #171 — aMEN sister.

that is exactly right.

we ARE the ones no one was expecting.

were going to upset the outcome of a presidential election, retain our identity as democrats, and chnge the face of the Demparty forever.

#188 Middle age female on 09.14.08 at 5:24 pm

Have you seen the SNL skit?

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b28904_snl_scores_sarah_palin_in_comparison_fey.html?sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

#189 thecandypoem on 09.14.08 at 5:25 pm

Hillary was treated wrong. If she doesn’t look as good on the “campaign” trail today, it is because she is purposely not sending out a strong message for BO. She’s doing the speeches, maybe in exchange for something, but her heart is not in the message. Her lack of enthusiasm is a signal to us. Don’t vote for BO.

#190 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:25 pm

a puma reform faction in the democratic party??
good luck ..sounds like a nasty civil war in the making between reformers and the obama faction..
civil wars have a way of become very UNCIVIL..

#191 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 5:26 pm

#175 BarbNOBO

That was very good.

#192 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:26 pm

Except for sociopaths, everyone is “pro-life”.
The question regarding reproductive rights is:
Do they support a woman’s right to choose (pro-choice), or do they not (anti-choice).

#193 murphy on 09.14.08 at 5:26 pm

oh lordy I’m disconnected.

What are Obambi’s numbers for August??

How much did he raise??

#194 RoBoTech on 09.14.08 at 5:27 pm

To see what Obama’s faith really is, see
http://www.obamareligion.net/

#195 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 5:28 pm

Hi Anna7000,
Thanks for the voting strategy info, & your post #63!

(((Anna7000)))

#196 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 5:30 pm

#181 slyt2

I like that “What a woman!”

#197 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 5:30 pm

Hi Murphy,
I don’t know how much he raised, however I just overheard a commentator on FOX say that regardless of the amount of money he made, “it has not helped him in the last 50 days of this campaign,” something to that effect.

#198 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:31 pm

robotech..i think obama has no other faith than power and selfenrichment..
religion has meaning only for good people

#199 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 5:31 pm

Sunday, September 14, 2008
Developing: Obama Raises $66 Million In August, But Spends $54 Million
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/09/developing-obama-raises-66-million-in.html

#200 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:32 pm

obama 66 million dollars raised.
mccain and obama have roughly the same amount of money in their campaign coffers

#201 murphy on 09.14.08 at 5:34 pm

oh god. 66 million?? that is a LOT of money. that’s a record.

oh lord.

we have to WORK hard for the next 7 weeks.

#202 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 5:34 pm

September 14, 2008, 3:08 pm
Palin on Fey: “Quite Funny”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/palin-on-fey-quite-funny/

#203 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:35 pm

its sort of twisted ain’t it that democratic feminist women libs will be the ones leading the charge that will tear down and destroy another woman who can make history and set a shining example of achievement for other women??

#204 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 5:35 pm

#195 shampoovta thank you for reading that I thought it was really good and she must have done a lot of research before posting that, but you watch all these idiots who can’t even spell BO’s name will get on and tear her apart

#205 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:35 pm

187 Middle age female

Thank you for that! I missed it on SLN last night. The link is now in the Action Center in teh Sexism section.

#206 Headclunker on 09.14.08 at 5:35 pm

#192 Murphy

The BO campaign announced $66 million, but last time they announced the amount, it included $12.55 million that was transfered from other funds shared with the DNC. You can tell better by the total BO/DNC funds. The $66 million could include $20-30 million in transfers. To really know, you have to see the FEC report that will be released after the 20th.

#207 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:36 pm

Murphy -

It looks like you’ve been out of the sun for a while. You need to get some color back in your cheeks, or at least your posts!

#208 prplvette85 on 09.14.08 at 5:38 pm

#33 girlsrule &#167 VAKatforPalin
Welcome to Puma! As you can see, we are a dedicated pac of Puma’s. Thanks for dropping by.

#209 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:38 pm

EVERYONE

Make sure you save this link to your “bookmarks” or “favorites”. It’s the alternative site in the event this site were to go down for any reason:

http://pumapac.blogspot.com/

#210 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:38 pm

sexism,ageism and racism… that’s the obama campaign for you..

#211 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:40 pm

I call it “The Democratic Partly” now.

#212 murphy on 09.14.08 at 5:40 pm

66 million bucks? wowee.

we’re trying to raise $10 thousand.

who the heck is still giving to the guy??

#213 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 5:40 pm

#191 DanceswithPumas

I am passionate about this subject and I would be willing to go toe to toe on this. But this is not the place to do it. It is too divisive and counter-productive for this forum. I mentioned it only to explain my … at times … “outsider” (even though I am a Democrat) point of view. I also disclosed this point of view when I registered to make sure that I would be acceptable as a member.

#214 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:41 pm

#206 Anna7000
I think she’s trying to disguise herself. :)
Liek a kid who when she closes her eyes, thinks you can’t see her!

#215 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:42 pm

i think its time to seriously consider forming a third party..
i think the democratic party is too far gone and corrupted with obama DNC forces..they have seized control of the democratic party.. why waste time and energy warring with them

#216 nokoolaid4me on 09.14.08 at 5:42 pm

# 33 girlsrule…thank you for your post.

#217 Worker Bee on 09.14.08 at 5:43 pm

Take a look here: http://www.campaignmoney.com/
for who gives how much to whom.

#218 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:44 pm

212 PumaPal
I know you did.
I don’t have any problem with your position.
I just think “pro-life” is an inaccurate and misleading term.
The opposite of pro-choice would be ant-choice.

#219 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 5:45 pm

Friday, September 5, 2008
Berg v. Obama Update — Friday, September 5
Obama, DNC Served Yesterday Afternoon

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was served with papers yesterday connected with the lawsuit filed more than two weeks ago in federal court in Philadelphia questioning his constitutional eligibility for the American presidency. Service was made at his Washington, D.C. Senate office at approximately 1:00 p.m.

From a press release provided by filing attorney Philip Berg and available on his Web site:

Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.

A telephone call to Obama’s Senate office in Washington, D.C. yielded no official comment, as his staffer maintained that she was “not familiar with any legal action” and, even though I mentioned that service was made in D.C. to that office, it was “probably a campaign-related issue.”

The subsequent call to the senator’s campaign headquarters, however, yielded the same result but in a more entertaining fashion.

“That’s very interesting,” said a campaign official who declined to provide a name and admitted that this was the first he had heard of Berg’s lawsuit. He asked whether anything about the civil action had appeared in the newspapers, and when told that the story had appeared in the Washington Times, he laughed.

“Has the story appeared in the New York Times? How about the Washington Post? Or the Los Angeles Times? The Chicago Tribune?” he asked. “Those are all more trustworthy papers than the Washington Times. When the story appears there, then we might have something to say about it.”

“If Sen. Obama were ineligible to run for president,” he said, “I think we would have heard about it by now.”

Berg, over the phone, mentioned that he has received phone calls and advice from dozens of lawyers across the country, and was currently working on preparing a motion for expedited discovery to be filed before the next conference with Judge Surrick. While he was unable to provide a copy of the affidavit of service–as soon as I get a copy, it will be posted here–he was more than happy to offer his perspective on the predictable response I received from Obama’s senate office and campaign headquarters.

“They know about it,” he said, noting that the story has catapulted across the Internet and radiowaves, citing 7.9 million hits on his Web site and mentioning that he is booked for a pair of radio interviews this evening, and will be sitting with a newspaper photographer for another story to appear in the [Norristown, PA] Times-Herald. “Too many times, a lawsuit can be filed and nobody knows about it. This time, the political people must know for sure.”

“The silence is proving me right,” he said, wondering why no doctor or nurse has come forward to claim the inevitable publicity which would accompany an admission that they were in attendance for the Illinois senator’s birth. “I think it’s an insult to the American public and even more so to his campaign supporters who have worked so hard and donated so much money. All they’re doing is prolonging the agony. If I’m right and they stay quiet, they could sit on it for 60 days, get elected, and the only way out would be impeachment by this do-nothing Congress.”

“What does that do for America?” He asked. “This deserves a comment one way or another.”

Posted by Jeff Schreiber

Labels: 2008 Election, Barack Hussein Obama, Berg v. Obama, Constitution

*** If this is old news I am sorry ***

#220 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:45 pm

214 osaka puma
We have 3rd parties, and a new one was recently added to that list: The Puma Democratic Party.

#221 antifish on 09.14.08 at 5:46 pm

#173 GOSUEF4HIL,

I read all the comments on that diary. It’s amazing how some of them are so hate-filled that they attack the person who says she was a Puma and has changed her mind.

I do think the diary is bogus. Why would the Republican convention have changed her mind? If anything, the sham Democratic convention should have turned true Democrats into Pumas!

#222 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:46 pm

dances – i knew it! thought that was a typo in the action center, but then it hit me! You clever lassie, you!

#223 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:47 pm

218 Pookie
Yippieeeeeeeeeeeee

#224 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:48 pm

i dont think anyone “likes” abortion..
we all value life..
the question is a profound one..when does human life begin? and at what point do we protect that life?
i dont know the answer to that question..(its above my paygrade”)
however i strongly think a woman who is pregnant from rape or incest should have the absolute right to abortion

#225 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 5:48 pm

221 Anna7000
lol… i had to have a little fun while working at those repetitive tasks!

#226 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:49 pm

Puma democratic party??
will it be a seperate political entity independent of the democratic party?
sounds like a great idea!!

#227 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 5:50 pm

#216 workerbee; Oprah Winfrey $2,300 ? ROFLMBAO

#228 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:52 pm

“i had to have a little fun while working at those repetitive tasks!”

thank god. that relieves a small bit of my own personal guilt!

#229 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:53 pm

what I think of Oprah…….”CLICK”
:lol:

#230 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 5:54 pm

#223 osaka puma wrote:

“i dont think anyone “likes” abortion..
we all value life..”

Totally! We women can’t even work this stuff out because it gets caught up in partisanship. I think the world divides woman up in to groups yet we all suffer form the same problem. It is ridicules.

#231 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 5:55 pm

shampoo.. beautifully said!

#232 Headclunker on 09.14.08 at 5:56 pm

#211 Murphy

The $66 mil was from the August closing. It is probably from the convention shake downs, when they still thought BO could win.

#233 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 5:57 pm

I stated my position as pro-life not to argue the issue but 1. to suggest some other information about the early history of feminism and 2. to explain my connection to some Republican women.

Again, I refuse to get drawn into a debate about the issue itself. This is not the forum. In another forum, I would gladly debate the issue. Just not here.

I think we can agree on this.

#234 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 5:57 pm

UPDATE (from where i sit)

Obama not as far ahead in the polls as likely many anticipated he would be at this point.

Obama continues to raise enormous sums of money.

Obama still has a slight edge over McCain in the electoral college and most recently has come within just a few votes of the magic number of 270.

McCain and Palin been hit hard by the press in recent days.

Palin is now being vetted and there’s no room for error since election day looms on the horizon.

McCain’s post-convention bump drifting down, as would be expected.

No matter how passionately we may feel, how outraged, how shocked, the fact remains, Obama is raking in tons of money, still appears to have a slight edge over McCain and the Dems are registering new voters like crazy.

We have precious few days to make the biggest push we can! We don’t have to wait for Murphy’s prowls. We can act on our own. Dances just put together an incredible Action Center with all the tools we need. Let’s put it to good use!

#235 RoBoTech on 09.14.08 at 5:58 pm

#197 osaka puma

No argument here.

What scares me is that 72% of Americans identify themselves as somewhat religious.
But, VERY few of those actually know what theology Obama is a believer of.
Black Liberation Theology is SCARY!
If a White Christan (and most Black Christians) knew what was being preached in Trinity Church, they would outright reject Obama!
The problem is, just talking about BLT is a loser. Nobody will pay attention.
Rev Wright had some attention a year before the clips we have all seen. The reports were just ignored because people just can’t imagine what the fuss was. UNTIL the clips of ranting Wright became public, Boy Howdy people paid attention then because it was SHOCKING to see and hear.
The MSM will NOT do a special on Trinity, or even BLT. So we are all fat, dumb, and happy, just like they want us.
I am asking everyone. Religious or not. Become educated on BLT and let’s get the threat of a President that believes in BLT out to the uneducated. I’m telling you guys, when people actually pay attention and get over the shock, Obama’s BLT faith is a killer.
To think he has raised his two daughters in this racist, American hating church, is appalling!
This video is NOT BS! It’s the facts!
http://www.obamareligion.net/
And go to wikipedia and read some more there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology

You want to sink Obama without fatally hurting the Democratic Party? Then make sure everyone you know is aware of BLT and Obama.
I hope it’s not too late.

#236 Headclunker on 09.14.08 at 5:58 pm

REPOST – Please review and post comment.

ACCOUNTABILITY

The DNC has posted the Convention Delegate Tally.
http://www.demconvention.com/securing-the-nomination
There was only one “official” vote. I received an email from Alice Germond and she is basically saying that we need to get the individual delegate votes from the state DNC’s. We not only need to compile this information for general accountability, but for assessment. The two main questions would be:
• Did each delegate vote as the record indicates?
• Were state binding laws violated by the delegates?
We still need a database of specified attributes for each of the 4,000+ delegates.
1. Name
2. State
3. Type (SuperDelegate/Bound)
4. Convention Ballot (Hotel Room/Breakfast)Vote
5. Convention Floor Vote
6. Tallied Vote
7. Verified by Delegate (Yes/No/Unknown)
8. Preconvention Vote (June Campaign Suspension)
What are the thoughts on how we could get this done? Anyone want to ask Alice? (First 6 Items)
Alice Germond
Secretary, Democratic National Committee
430 So. Capitol St., SE
Washington, DC 20003
202/863-7183
GermondA@dnc.org
Fax 202-863-8174

#237 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 5:58 pm

#190 shampoovta…and others…Dr. Long needs help over there…please submit comments…

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/baltimore-sun/T1SS3FTKK039302ET

#238 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 6:00 pm

my God..the obama campaign has thrown everything except the kitchen sink to get ahead..they have the money,the main stream media,legions of morons to carry out their bidding…
maybe america is trying to send a message..”senator obama we don’t like you”

#239 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:00 pm

Headclunker – Here’s one problem with Ms. Germond’s numbers. I believe they are a total of the pledged and supers. I want the pledged only, since they are the ones pledged to reflect the will of the voters. Supers, by definition, have always been able to vote however they see fit.

#240 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 6:00 pm

Speaking about Bo’s contributions this book I am reading has a paragraph: When we examine where Obama has gotten most of the funds to run his 2008 presidential compaign, we find that hypocrisy is evidently not a fault Obama minds having. According to watchdogopensecrets.org, Wall street investment firms and U.S. law firms representing multinational U.S. contributors. At the top of Obama’s contributor list is Goldman Sachs, followed by UBS, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers, and Morgan Stanley. Among the law firms leading the list of Obama 2008 campaign contributors are New York- based Skadden, Arps;Los Angeles-based Katgan&Watkins; Chicago-based Kirkland&Ellis and Sidley Austin, the law firm where Michele Obama was an associate and met her future husband.

#241 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:02 pm

Pookie – Seems to me you’ve got great material for a letter to the editor right there! Go for it!

#242 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 6:04 pm

pookie.. the obamas are being used by greater powers than them..and these powers are almost all white..go figure it..
wall street and fortune 500— 95% white males..

#243 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:05 pm

I want the pledged only, since they are the ones pledged to reflect the will of the voters.
————————————————————–
I votes, as did thousands of others. Why did California “pass”? I wish we had money to burn… we could initiate a class action suit.

#244 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:06 pm

Letters to the Editor Assistance:

http://www.publishaletter.com/

#245 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 6:08 pm

#173 GOSUEF4HIL & #220 antifish,

The DailyKos (who posted this “diary”) is well known as a site who strives to print untruths. They posted pictures with an article about Trig being the son of Bristol. The pictures were of Gov Palin from 2006 (when she was obviously not pregnant) and said they were taken in 2008–thus Trig could not be her son, but had to be the oldest daughters (“proved” by the “stomach” pooch Bristol had in the picture)–however, I believe they were called on it big time and because that article and it’s proof pictures were taken down. Clearly a disgrace to respected journalism everywhere…

#246 murphy on 09.14.08 at 6:11 pm

yep — the Puma Democratic Party — that’s us.

anna700 — exactly right.

alright, maybe it’s not 66 million raised from individual dem donors, but wtf — we have WORK to do.

#247 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 6:11 pm

VAK… those obama goons are scoundrels

#248 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 6:13 pm

i like the sound of “The PUMA Democratic Party”
sounds very hip :)

#249 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 6:13 pm

You know what ya ask?
Not were do you stand on R vs W but would you like to have kids some day. I’ll bet 99% of women would say yes.

This R vs W issue is a negative zone. Enter at your own risk.

It is legalization of a necessary evil in a fallen world. If we worked to make woman lives better then there would be fewer visits to the abortion clinic. We argue about how to get to that point sex ed or promis rings. Now we are right back at the partisan looserness again. I want off this marry go round.

Let us girls work it out and the anti religious crowed and the Sex ed is taught at home crowed just shut up!

This is about $$ and status. Rich girls are falling over themselves to adopt! They got the $$!

Now lets get this girl in there swinging for us, for our bank account and social standing to cure the disease and not the symptom.

#250 antifish on 09.14.08 at 6:13 pm

And the Daily Kooks remain in one of the extra seven states…denial.

Gallup

McCain 47
Obama 45

Rasmussen

McCain 50
Obama 47

Daily Kos

McCain 45
Obama 47

#251 pa dem on 09.14.08 at 6:14 pm

Murphy: WELCOME BACK :)

I am very willing to help out with mailings, and canvassing (if I have a partner–I’m not going door to door by myself).

#252 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:15 pm

Gratifying video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ajJYkMd74&eurl=http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

#253 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:16 pm

LETTER TO THE EDITOR INSPIRED BY POOKIE’S POST. TOOK ALL OF 5 MINUTES TO WRITE AND THE MEDIA LINKS ARE IN THE ACTION CENTER. HAVE AT IT FOLKS. (BY THE WAY, LETTERS THAT TARGET A SINGLE ISSUE ARE GREAT FOR LETTERS TO THE EDITOR BECAUSE YOU CAN KEEP THE SUBJECT MATTER CONTAINED AND THE LETTER BRIEF.)
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - –

To whom it may concern:

Senator Obama has a track record of talking about the need to get big money out of politics. Not so very long ago, he was in support of accepting only public financing for his campaign. He boasts of having a “grassroots” organization.

But the facts reveal something quite different from the lofty words. The senator from Illinois declined John McCain’s invitation to agree to accept public financing. And, it appears that the Obama campaign is funded by some of the largest, most powerful multinational corporations in America. He does not raise tens of millions of dollars a month from the little people of his presumably grassroots organization. No. Instead, he is funded by the likes of Lehman Bros, Goldman Sachs, and JP Morgan Chase among countless others.

In this, and so many other ways, Senator Obama appears to speak out of two sides of his mouth, saying one thing, but doing quite another.

How can any thinking person trust this individual? How can anyone truly say what it is that he stands for?

I grew up knowing that actions spoke louder than words and Senator Obama’s actions speak volumes.

Let there be no mistake lest anyone have any doubt, Senator Obama is not fit for the most awesome job of President of the Untied States and Commander in Chief. He simply can’t be trusted.

Sincerely,

#254 antifish on 09.14.08 at 6:16 pm

RASMUSSEN BREAKING POLL!

35% Expect McCain Victory, 34% Say Obama Will Win

Sunday, September 14, 2008

John McCain’s convention and his choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate have moved him from 18 points behind to a one-point lead over Barack Obama when voters are asked who is likely to win this year’s presidential election, according to a new Rasmussen reports national telephone survey.

Thirty-five percent (35%) say they expect McCain to win, 34% expect an Obama victory, and 30% say the race is too close to call.

While McCain’s 35% to 34% edge is statistically insignificant, it is a remarkable turnaround from a month ago when 46% expected an Obama victory versus 28% who thought the Republican would win.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/35_expect_mccain_victory_34_say_obama_will_win

#255 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:17 pm

247 osaka puma
and it makes the connection between Puma and the DP.
Better than having to establish a new identity all over again.

#256 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 6:17 pm

antifish..thanks for the update!
I’m very impressed and glad to know that someone out there is making obama eat humble pie..

#257 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 6:19 pm

#251 DancesWithPumas

Perrrrrfect!

#258 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 6:20 pm

dances with pumas..
it is a wonderful idea and i think it has tremendous potential!!
there are miilions of us orphans out here who arent welcome or dont fit into either the democratic or republican party..
we need a home to call our own!!

#259 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:21 pm

# 243

OR

how about we all get in the habit of going to the action center to look for what we need lest we risk being diagnosed with blog co-dependency syndrome!

#260 pumasupporter on 09.14.08 at 6:24 pm

I saw a comment earlier mentioned about creating a temporary alliance with the GOP in order to keep BHO out of the White House. This can work and has been done before. FDR had a “New Deal” coalition which was a temporary union of Conservative Democrats, Liberal Democrats and some Liberal Republicans that had a goal of ramming the New Deal through Congress. The Reagan Coalition is well known for its union of Republicans and Conservative Democrats who were appalled by the far left taking over their party starting with the McGovern nomination (and blowout) in 1972. Some people switched parties but for the most part, the Democrats stayed as Democrats. They were united by a common cause, a common goal. This is evident in the actual Republican Party today. The entire party is full of alliances between differing viewpoints. You have Neoconservatives (like George W. Bush), Libertarian Conservatives (like Ron Paul), Social Conservatives (like Sam Brownback), Populist Conservatives (like Mike Huckabee), Moderate Conservatives (like John McCain), Economic Conservatives (like Mitt Romney) and Liberal Conservatives (like Rudy Guiliani, Dennis Miller, etc.) all in the same Party. What they disagree on, they disagree passionately on. What they agree on is what unites them. PUMA voters should create an (even if its temporary) alliance with the GOP to keep Obama out of the White House. Remember that old saying, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

#261 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:25 pm

258 Anna7000

Good idea. If people familiarize themselves with what’s available at the Action Center, it will cut down on BcodS.

#262 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 6:25 pm

I am confortable with two parties that are about equally divided. If that were not the case, corruption would be worse than it is now. No party is free of corruption because all politics is about power.

Call me cynical but I am just trying to be realistic. I am more concerned about a media that is skewed to one direction only. That does not bode well for our country. The internet (for all of its problems) developed just in time. And Pumas … we are on the front lines for democracy and honest government … right where we are at this moment. The few Pumas that bear the brunt of most of the actual work … and we know who you are … thank you from the bottom of my heart.

The fact of the matter is that if Obama loses this election, there will be a “come to Mama” moment big time. This will be the shocker of all shockers … and soul searching is guaranteed.

#263 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:27 pm

257 osaka puma

It’s all Ms Murphy’s doing.

#264 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:28 pm

SUGGESTION:

Everyone who’s on the blog or lurking, take a couple of minutes and go check out the Action Center. Familiarize yourself with the tools available. You may even decide to put some to use today. (No time like the present.) You’ll like it! It’ll be fun! You’ll feel empowered! You’ll feel proud! And, you’ll feel grateful! How great will that be?!*

#265 oneilma on 09.14.08 at 6:32 pm

What a great text. I especially liked the first part about Hillary, who did all the right things and was paid back with a lack of respect and dishonesty. I too am one of those women who has always been obedient, but I won’t obey now. thanks for an inspiring story.

#266 NewOrleansPuma on 09.14.08 at 6:34 pm

ANNABELLE,ANNABELLE: Thank you, Annabelle for introducing me to someone I did not know anything about ! And as far as appreciating what you did to get the post up, Annablelle, you are exactly the kind of guerilla warfare person I have always loved, no matter the cause! Where are you located, i.e., what state?

#267 GAPeach on 09.14.08 at 6:35 pm

#223 Osaka Puma

I went though IVF to have my child. That experience made me more pro-life and it made me understand the desperate need for young girls to be educated about their bodies. Most women don’t seem to know exactly what their bodies are doing each month. From my experience I can tell you the moment my ovary drops an egg! I do know that a woman is not pregnant until the embryo implants, which is 5 days after conception. An embryo does not guarantee a pregnancy. Which is why I also support embryonic stem cell research for embryos that would be discarded otherwise. In my my mind, life begins when a woman has a viable pregnancy…on that 5th day. I understand rape and incest is a problem–there are drugs that can be given after intercourse to prevent pregnancy and I admit I would allow abortion for those victims. I don’t know what the legal solution is, but I do know we need more education for women and major self-esteem courses/counseling for young girls. It is shocking how many teenage girls think sex is the only way to make them popular or loved.

#268 lilibet on 09.14.08 at 6:36 pm

texas sherry:
I agree with you about the California accent. I’ve always thought that they did not have an accent because they spoke like I did. Now, when I am on a trip people often think that I am from Canada, because I don’t have an accent.

#269 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 6:37 pm

Some links I sent to Carrie for the new website & thought I’d post some here too for any New PUMA’s:

* Flip-Flops / FISA info
Today’s Coverup of Surveillance Crimes and Barack Obama

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/09/10243/

* Sexism – excerpts from one of Murpy’s July posts:

What we didn’t know was that a major candidate would accept the side effect political benefits to him of a sexist onslaught fueled by the noxious fumes of Swamp Misogyny. We didn’t know our political leadership would stand by like cowardly, weak-willed onlookers at a daytime mugging. We didn’t know they would classify our support of the most popular and competent woman candidate in history as emotional, angry, irrational, hysterical, ugly, and stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbzT2YqhGT4

About us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUeb0PSxDzw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n7TjVU7XGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWeETTOrCRY&NR=1

PUMA’s in front of msnbc tent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNolsoPFQAw

#270 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 6:38 pm

I didn’t want to print all this: where the hypocrisy part came from was this: Lee Cary a Conservative commentator shared the observation about Obama’s GlobalPoverty Act that “those who feel like victims want the guilty exposed and loathed.” In this context, Cary noted the Obama campaign was airing radio ads in Texas in which Obama claimed that “some CEOs make more in 10 minutes than some American workers make in a year”. arguing that this was somehow unfair. Cary noted that Obama did not include in this derision his endorser, Oprah Winfrey. Calling Obama the “Global Candidate,” Cary said his goal was to “cite multinational corporations as the leading exploiters of the world’s poor, with wall street’s favorites leading the pack

#271 NewOrleansPuma on 09.14.08 at 6:39 pm

#211Murphy: If anybody really knew that then we would have some idea of who is really going to be running this country if he wins, wouldn’t we?
Hope you had lots of fun at your wedding event! Annabelle clearly has been taking good care of the blog!

#272 annabelle on 09.14.08 at 6:40 pm

Welcome back, Murphy! Thanks so much for letting me fill in for you this weekend. I’d be happy to any time.

And, to update people on my own status–we are still without power here in So. Indiana. BVetween us and Louisville, KY, we have nearly a million people without power here. I am very worried about the groceries I bought yesterday. It sucks living pay check to pay check.

Anyway, it’s an hour wait here at the local IHOP, if that gives you any idea. Luckily I can recharge my laptop and post comments with you folks while I wait.

Thanks to everyone for making me feel at home here this weekend. I’ll be back soon!

#273 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 6:43 pm

#248 shampoovta…very well said!!

#274 Pookie on 09.14.08 at 6:46 pm

annabelle I am not as far south in Indiana as you probably are but our neighborhood looks like a tornado went thru we have large trees and they are all over the yards but we still have our power

#275 nhforhillary on 09.14.08 at 6:46 pm

OREILLY/OBAMA interview tonight – The entire interview is being shown – all segments back to back.
If you missed a segment this is your chance to watch it again! 8pm E.T.

MEGAN McCain will be on LARRY KING this MONDAY!

#276 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 6:48 pm

So the Obama campaign raised 66 million dollars last month and they continue to sink in the polls??? Does that speak volumes???

#277 Nijma on 09.14.08 at 6:48 pm

for your relaxation and amusement, even though I’m not sure exactly what this is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tds28mzrAk

#278 Hispanic4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 6:49 pm

I have a suggestion…Perhaps we need to unite with other anit-obama people who belong to other groups. We need to build bigger and stronger groups to avoid getting Mr BS in the white house. If the groups were to pull together our voices would be louder. Not only will our voices be louder, we can have more support to get the word out.. Just a suggestion, because I need help in Collin County..

#279 nhforhillary on 09.14.08 at 6:50 pm

OREILLY/OBAMA interview tonight - The entire interview is being shown – all segments back to back.

If you missed a segment this is your chance to watch it again! 8pm E.T.

MEGAN McCain will be on LARRY KING this MONDAY!

#280 4hillinca on 09.14.08 at 6:50 pm

I have been gone for 10 days without internet or TV. Can anyone briefly fill me in? Thanks. I will try to go through posts but may take me some time. THANKS

#281 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 6:51 pm

#275 Nijma wrote
“for your relaxation and amusement, even though I’m not sure exactly what this is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tds28mzrAk

The mask.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arv5OQd3Exc

#282 NewOrleansPuma on 09.14.08 at 6:52 pm

Annabelle: Thanks again for your work! I will be thinking of you in Southern Indiana! I have concluded you get the New Orleans honorary title of Dawlin..Annabelle and had you read a former post here you would know what a world apart and above that is from planet Sweetie! Thank you, Dawlin Annabelle!

#283 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 6:52 pm

276 Hispanic4Hillary
I need help in Collin County..
——————————
Hi,
Where is Collin County?

Which groups are you thinking about uniting with?

#284 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:52 pm

Hispanic4Hillary – Others have made this suggestion. I, too, wish some of these grassroots orgs would consolidate. Probably a bit late in the game for any chance of that happening, even if they were inclined to do so. I figure, we just gotta work with what we’ve got. Meanwhile, just as an fyi, PUMApac does have regional moderators who may be able to focus you in terms of where you live. Also, maybe post your state so others in your state may be able to link up with you.

#285 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 6:52 pm

This is funny…..NObama in Germany :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5wM_LdsrU

#286 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:54 pm

4hillinca -

things are about the same!

#287 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:54 pm

4hillinca -

things are about the same!

#288 one4all on 09.14.08 at 6:58 pm

Love this video…Thanks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ajJYkMd74

#289 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 6:59 pm

Hispanic4Hillary
texas?

#290 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 6:59 pm

FYI – I think the remnants of the hurricane are impacting many areas of the country. Just heard some folks in Ohio are without power.

#291 NewOrleansPuma on 09.14.08 at 7:00 pm

#283Asian4Hilary: Video is hilarious…thanks so much!

#292 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:00 pm

evening pumas – forgetting my manners -

#293 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:01 pm

BlueBlueGal – As a result, you will have to sit quietly in the corner with your hands folded for the next ten minutes.

#294 pooh496 on 09.14.08 at 7:01 pm

#33 girlsrule

WELCOME to the site! Glad to meet you. Yes, I did see the you tube video. It was wonderful.

#295 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 7:01 pm

#283 Asian4Hillary wrote:
“This is funny…..NObama in Germany :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5wM_LdsrU

Kind a like this..
Young Ones – Doctor Marten Boots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uw2BbSv8M&feature=related

#296 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:02 pm

murphy – welcome home

just got my democratic – time for change – bumper sticker yesterday. how appropriate that it would arrive with hurrican ike – i have seen how many of you have returned this in the prepaid envelope so will do same.

#297 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 7:02 pm

Comment to posters re: joining efforts, pooling resources-

AGREE!! Main focus Nobama.

But several of us who believe the best way to defeat Nobama is by supporting McCain (even though WE ARE NOT REPUBLICANS)- there will be some info in the next few days on the swing states and ways you can help by putting your efforts where it matters most.

I will share info when I get it, I am on an e-mail list thru hireheels- sure some of you here are too-

Perhaps the best way to get the word out is thru Murphy- or if there is another e-mail list that Murphy keeps?

This will cut down on the trolls picking up our info.

#298 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:04 pm

291 Anna7000
hands ???? – i thought these mitts were paws !! lol lol

#299 hillaryistheone on 09.14.08 at 7:04 pm

THIS IS MOVING. HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET…..IF ….WE EVER KNEW……

WHY WOMEN SHOULD VOTE

This is the story of our Grandmothers and Great-grandmothers; they lived only 90 years ago.

Remember, it was not until 1920

that women were granted the right to go to the polls and vote.

The women were innocent and defenseless, but they were jailed
nonetheless for picketing the White House, carrying signs asking
for the vote.

(Lucy Burns)
And by the end of the night, they were barely alive.
Forty prison guards wielding clubs and their warden’s blessing
went on a rampage against the 33 women wrongly convicted of
‘obstructing sidewalk traffic.’
They beat Lucy Burns, chained her hands to the cell bars above
her head and left her hanging for the night, bleeding and gasping
for air.

(Dora Lewis)
They hurled Dora Lewis into a dark cell, smashed her
head against an iron bed and knocked her out cold. Her cellmate,
Alice Cosu, thought Lewis was dead and suffered a heart attack.
Additional affidavits describe the guards grabbing, dragging,
beating, choking, slamming, pinching, twisting and kicking the women.

Thus unfolded the’Night of Terror’ on Nov. 15, 1917,
when the warden at the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia ordered his
guards to teach a lesson to the suffragists imprisoned there because
they dared to picket Woodrow Wilson’s White House for the right
to vote.

For weeks, the women’s only water came from an open pail. Their
food–all of it colorless slop–was infested with worms.

(Alice Paul)
When one of the leaders, Alice Paul, embarked on a hunger strike, they tied her to a chair, forced a tube down her throat and poured liquid into her until she vomited. She was tortured like this for weeks
until word was smuggled out to the press.
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/suffrage/nwp/prisoners.pdf

So, refresh my memory. Some women won’t vote this year because-
-why, exactly? We have carpool duties? We have to get to work?
Our vote doesn’t matter? It’s raining?

Last week, I went to a sparsely attended screening of HBO’s new
movie ‘Iron Jawed Angels.’ It is a graphic depiction of the battle
these women waged so that I could pull the curtain at the polling
booth and have my say. I am ashamed to say I needed the reminder.

All these years later, voter registration is still my passion. But the
actual act of voting had become less personal for me, more rote.
Frankly, voting often felt more like an obligation than a privilege.
Sometimes it was inconvenient.

My friend Wendy, who is my age and studied women’s history,
saw the HBO movie, too. When she stopped by my desk to talk
about it, she looked angry. She was–with herself. ‘One thought
kept coming back to me as I watched that movie,’ she said.
‘What would those women think of the way I use, or don’t use,
my right to vote? All of us take it for granted now, not just
younger women, but those of us who did seek to learn.’ The
right to vote, she said, had become valuable to her ‘all over again.’

HBO released the movie on video and DVD . I wish all history,
social studies and government teachers would include the movie in
their curriculum I want it shown on Bunco night, too, and anywhere
else women gather. I realize this isn’t our usual idea of socializing,
but we are not voting in the numbers that we should be, and I think
a little shock therapy is in order.

It is jarring to watch Woodrow Wilson and his cronies try to persuade a psychiatrist to declare Alice Paul insane so that she could be permanently institutionalized. And it is inspiring to watch the doctor refuse. Alice Paul was strong, he said, and brave. That didn’t make her crazy.

The doctor admonished the men: ‘Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity.’

Please, if you are so inclined, pass this on to all the women you know.

We need to get out and vote and use this right that was fought so
hard for us by these very courageous women. Whether you vote democratic, republican or independent party – remember to vote.

History is being made.

#300 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 7:07 pm

#267 lilibet ,

:lol: What is really funny is that me and my sister sounded exactly the same when we were kids but after I moved off and was gone awhile that all changed. Now we don’t even sound like we are related. :lol:

Gotta go fix supper. bbl

#301 NewOrleansPuma on 09.14.08 at 7:08 pm

I wish I could get a receipt as at the grocery store for my vote, i.e. a copy of the name of the person I voted for! I would put it in a frame with my Hillary bumper sticker and a JohnMcCain/Palin sticker, which I do not have…for posterity…

#302 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 7:09 pm

I don’t know if anybody read my last post with the link i wanted everyone to read except for #195 shampoovta but here is another one I thought goes with what we have discussed here before.
http://toledo.craigslist.org/rnr/840717937.html

#303 Sunshinelvr on 09.14.08 at 7:10 pm

294 Blue Blue Gal

Why send them back? Slap a McCain/Palin sticker over it and put it on your bumper :lol:

#304 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:11 pm

Received this a few minutes ago:

The show NO WE WON’T PUMA RADIO will air in 55 minute(s) (5PM PACIFIC 8 EASTERN).

Or copy and paste the link below:

http://www.Blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/15/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO

And do not forget, if you want to call in live and speak with the hosts, be sure to dial (347)539-5420. You will be placed into the caller queue where you will still be able to hear the show while you are on hold.

#305 NewOrleansPuma on 09.14.08 at 7:11 pm

Hillaryisthe One: Thank you for this post. Easy to forget how long the powermongers in this country have hated, and feared the power of women….They will remember the power this year. Women will decide who the next President of the United States. will be.Every woman who VOTES will decide that!

#306 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 7:12 pm

I have a Mac……and every thing looks good in action center.

#307 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:12 pm

Anna7000
if these are hands, then i have opposing thumbs. if i have opposing thumbs, then i have no excuse for typos!!!!! lamo

#308 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 7:13 pm

#244 VAKatforPalin- I know the Kos is a poor excuse for journalism- but those of you familiar w/ me know that I live in a split household and my husband cannot understand why I am not on the unity train- I only go on these sites when he forgets to delete his cookies- I backtrack, read the pablum and post what I think others should read.

So, unfortunately, Huffy and Kossok both get hits from my house, as well as that fat blow-hard Oberman (sorry for my rant but I feel like I can do it here- if I do it in my own home- I don’t even want to go there)

#309 john on 09.14.08 at 7:13 pm

McCain is holding his own in FL and Ohio. We need to make PA PUMA territory. We need to put all our resource time, and energy into PA. Obama must win PA. Iif we can take PA out of the hand of Obama, PUMA will be one political force forever. We have Corbett and we have Obama’s bitter statement about the good folks of PA. This should be a PUMA Take AWAY. We need a map of all the rural area’s Hillary won and concentrate on them. You don’t have to vote McCain just take PA away from Obama

#310 Sunshinelvr on 09.14.08 at 7:13 pm

300 slyt2 I read your post..you know that MO is scheduled to be on Paula Deen’s cooking show September 20th , don’t you? I am sure they script her every word!!

http://www.pauladeen.com/tv#m_obama

#311 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 7:14 pm

I’m in NE Ohio and power is going on and off.

Is anyone going to going to see John McCain & Sarah Palin at a Victory Rally in Vienna, Ohio on Tuesday, September 16th at Winner Aviation, 1453 Youngstown Kingsville NE. ? (Doors open at 1:00pm)

Any PUMAS planning on attending? I’m only 45 minutes away and find golden opportunity in this!

#312 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 7:15 pm

#244 VAKatforPalin- yep, I read ‘em both, keep posting, I love it!!

#313 Hispanic4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 7:15 pm

Collin County is in Texas…North of Dallas…

#314 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 7:17 pm

#307 john…………I have the link from Obama’s website that you can sign up to make phone calls…they will provide a list of numbers….all you need do is put in your zip code to get phone numbers.

We could all put in different state zips and get numbers to POUNCE!

Any takers….Murphy?

#315 kat in your hat on 09.14.08 at 7:18 pm

Must Watch:

The Lying King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWP5ljQV79s

#316 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 7:19 pm

I found this video last night. I don’t want to come off like I am the boss in my home, I am not but this was so funny.

The Man Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc6xR0KBzAE

Then there was this one that struck me as funny. I love Jim!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpapdB-bCFI

Just for giggles.

#317 Missy on 09.14.08 at 7:20 pm

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I am disgusted — why I keep tuning in to the MSM shows, I don’t know, but here goes:

1. Why are the hosts and commentators STILL saying Palin made a huge error by her inability to correctly answer Gibson’s question about the Bush Doctrine? If WE all know that Gibson screwed up, that there is a transcript of unedited interview…why should we not hold them to a higher standard when reporting???

I really think we need to do a GROWL to ABC for the Gibson interview, his condescending, disrespectful and rude treatment of Palin, the edited telecast that completely misconstrued her words in order to give the wrong message. My own paper’s headlines said “Palin wants war with Russia.”

And while we are at it with ABC — let’s not forget the treatment of McCain and Cindy on the VIEW. I actually heard on ABC This Week this morning that McCain was taken off guard by the nature of the questions and was angry and defensive — not *my* VIEW!!!

2. How can we gag McCaskill? She simply does not get it. I’m happy to say that Carly Fiorina is a formidable spokesperson for McCain. She left McCaskill in the dust this morning.

How many commentators, and/or Obama supporters do we have to continue to hear that Hillary supporters will “come around come election.” It is making me crazy!

Another GROWL — to McCaskill, Bedaglia, Rendell, Mitchell, and all the others — we are NOT going to “come around” and that we are intent on voting against Obama today, tomorrow, a week from Thursday and on election day. And after that, we copy to the Republican talking heads that seem favorable to our efforts…so next time these guys are on the air spouting their BS, they can be held accountable. MSM is not hearing us, but the Republicans are. If Geraldine Ferraro is using our communications, just think how the Republicans will!

On the upside — I was talking to a Vietnamese friend today, a former Hillary supporter, and who now supports McCain and loves Palin. He told me that all of his Vietnamese friends are voting for McCain. McCain was a POW, has publicly stated that a corrupt government stands in Vietnam in spite of our efforts, and has been sympathetic to and instrumental in bringing thousands of Vietnamese to the US. (I am repeating what was told to me.) Also, I had heard on the radio that Palin’s dealings in Alaska were numerous with Asian countries and that Alaska actually had satellite offices in many of them, specifically because of fish exports. This could be a huge demographic voting bloc…do any of our Asian Pumas have any suggestions on how we can reach out to our Asian friends?

One more thought about voter fraud. I posted this yesterday but I think it got buried. Here in CA there is concern that with the high number of home foreclosures, voter fraud will be a real problem. Efforts are underway to determine how best to match residents with an address. The worry is that people will have moved from one location but will vote more than once since they are still registered at their former addresses. Worse still, that there will be imposters using foreclosed addresses as their residences.

I don’t know what the incidence of foreclosure is in Ohio, but it might be worth a mention with this register/vote in the same day business that they are promoting in that state.

Okay, I’m done…someone else’s turn. Have a good day, PUMAs!

#318 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 7:21 pm

GOSUEF4HIL

I was going to post the link to the “retract” but the blog afterwards was no absolutely ridiculous I could hardly stand it! We know that if Sarah was not a woman, none of this would be going on….

#319 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:21 pm

dances -

OR

you can alert to 55 min to showtime and redirect to action center for radio link!

blue – it seems you did not take your time out for bad manner seriously. now you’re going to have to eat gibble for dinner. no wet food for you!

#320 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 7:21 pm

that should have been “so absolutely ridiculous”… ;)

#321 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:22 pm

Missy – So many great points. Why not contact the media and make them there are well?

#322 john on 09.14.08 at 7:23 pm

bythelake , I had 48 people signed up to do just that
also here’s the map of PA and the area Hillary won
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/PA.html
Take a look we could take PA out of Obama’s habds.

#323 john on 09.14.08 at 7:24 pm

hands*

#324 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 7:25 pm

Action Center – Outstanding job!

What a lot of work; I will be using it a lot. Thank you so much.

#325 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:29 pm

311 Hispanic4Hillary

There are lots of very active PUMAs in Texas.
email southwest@pumapac.org and they can probably hook you up with the active groups there.

#326 diva2 on 09.14.08 at 7:29 pm

#266 PACPeach

I might add, I think they also need to learn how and what to say to ensure that BOTH of you are using protection and to refuse to go any “further” until all the prep has been done. From what I have seen, kids (unfortunately are going to want to try certain experiences) need to be able to speak comfortably with each other before they go any further. The heat of the moment doesn’t stop the repercussions. Both men and women need to know how to use a condom IF they are going to engage in sexual activities. In many colleges, they teach freshman how to put on a condom, where to get them and go over basics on sex and what can happen. This doesn’t encourage them to be sexually active, but encourages them not to be, but if they choose, use common sense and here is how to do that.

#327 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 7:30 pm

#307 john …I agree with you 100%. I am from western PA and Hillary won here by 70% in most of the rural counties. Many are blue collar workers whose jobs went overseas. Many do not like BO but don’t know what McCain has to offer them. I am willing to get as much NOBO information needed to bombard this area.

#328 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:31 pm

322 PumaPal
Thanks, PumaPal.
————————

Anna7000

It was just as easy to copy and paste from my email reminder. Although, the next time someone asks, I will direct them to teh AC.

pssst… did you memorize the contents, or what?? lol

#329 dcinlasvegas on 09.14.08 at 7:33 pm

Does anyone know of other sites besides opensecrets where you can find info on donations to candidates?

#330 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:33 pm

contact the media
—————–

There’s a plethora of media contact links and alpahabetized addresses in the Action Center.

anna7000 trained me well.

#331 Hispanic4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 7:34 pm

323 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:29 pm 311 Hispanic4Hillary

There are lots of very active PUMAs in Texas.
email southwest@pumapac.org and they can probably hook you up with the active groups there.

Thanks…#323….

#332 californiagal on 09.14.08 at 7:34 pm

239 Pookie:

Heard earlier today that Lehman Bros are going to go into bankruptcy if Wall Street doesn’t help them ot. They have told employees to call tomorrow to see if they have a job to report to.

What goes around….

#333 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:34 pm

Anna7000
did my 10 in corner, can i have my wet food instead of kibble?

#334 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:36 pm

327 dcinlasvegas
someone earlier posted a site -
campaigncontribution or
camapigncontributions
don’t know if dot com or dot org

#335 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:36 pm

dcinlasvegas – huffington post had something whereby you could check, but i think you had to know the name of the donor. not positive. you may want to check out that site. otherwise, i know of no other sites. maybe type “HELP WANTED” above your post so it stands out for those quickly scrolling through the blog.

#336 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 7:37 pm

Missy, et al…

Have you considered letting the MSM continue to say you all “will come around”… give them a false sense of security and then…wham, bam….

Or another thought is that they KNOW you’re not going to come around, but they want to make it SEEM like you are so other Dems who are on the fence, feel like its okay to vote for BO…if that’s the case, then your best bet is websites like this, youtube videos, phone calls–all the “grassroots” stuff…AND, I think you might find some “women for palin” groups (R & D) who you could work with to move this along…

And I think your best bet are people like Geraldine Ferraro, John Coale, and even Dick Morris to get the PUMA message out… Sean Hannity would definitely put your message out there, but I fear the Obama machine would counter with something like “he’s a Republican, of course he’d say that…”

“Top Clinton Supporter John Coale Defects and Endorses McCain”

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=62341

Just thought I’d throw in my two cents….

#337 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:37 pm

blue – ok. yes. you will find your wet food in the action center. go look for it!

#338 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:38 pm

311 Hispanic4Hillary
there is one puma, as far as i can tell, in each of the following counties
dallas, tarrant, denton
what kind of help do you need?

#339 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 7:38 pm

http://www.campaignmoney.com/

#340 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 7:39 pm

Obama campaign money

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

#341 Missy on 09.14.08 at 7:40 pm

Anna7000

Missy – So many great points. Why not contact the media and make them there are well?
*******************

I am beginning to think that contacting the media, other than FOX, or possibly Lou Dobbs, is a complete waste of our efforts…hence, my suggestion to begin copying the Republican talking heads.
Carly Fiorina’s job has been to reach out to those of us who were Hillary voters — I personally think it was due to her efforts that the Republicans embraced Palin for the VP slot.
Can you imagine next time on TV when one of Obama’s talking heads is stating with all sorts of “authority” that we will come around — and the Republican talking head can retort with “that’s not what we are hearing from the thousands of letters we have received from alienated Hillary voters…which by the way was sent to you as well.

#342 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:41 pm

335 Anna7000
yes maam, on my way now -

#343 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:42 pm

LOLOL @Blue Blue Gal and Anna7000!!!

331 and 335

#344 dcinlasvegas on 09.14.08 at 7:42 pm

Thanks all! :mrgreen:

#345 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:44 pm

dcinlasvegas – keep us posted as to what you’re up to with this project you seem to have cooking!

#346 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:44 pm

ACTION CENTER HAS PUMA POWER !!!!!!!

#347 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 7:45 pm

Anna7000 ARe we doing a follow up tomorrow of the sponsors we got the other day??

#348 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:45 pm

blue – you found your food! fresh new unopened can, i presume.

#349 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:46 pm

335 Anna7000
wonderful selection of goodies – enough to keep one very full

#350 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:47 pm

slyt2 – thanks for following up on that. here’s my plan:

1. wait to see if murphy wants to do a prowl (she has an e-mail from me about it in her mailbox along with what are probably a zillion other e-mails).

2. if murphy wants to do a prowl, i will ask for help on the blog to gather the names of the ceo’s for the various companies along with e-mail addresses.

3. if murphy doesn’t want to do a prowl, i will post what i have and see if there is interest among bloggers. if so, we can try to do our best to gather what we need and take action on our own.

what do you think of this plan?

#351 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 7:48 pm

trash night – brb

#352 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 7:48 pm

337 bythelake
http://www.campaignmoney.com/
—————————————
What kind of site is this? I’ve posted it to the Action Center but only glanced at the site.

#353 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 7:49 pm

blue – remember! no need to rummage through garbage anymore for food. forget about the trash. you’re livin’ large now!

#354 Sunshinelvr on 09.14.08 at 7:51 pm

324 diva2
“In many colleges, they teach freshman how to put on a condom, where to get them and go over basics on sex and what can happen. This doesn’t encourage them to be sexually active, but encourages them not to be, but if they choose, use common sense and here is how to do that.”

Call me bad! I did that for my sons when they were teenagers. I talked openly and honestly that I do not approve of teenagers having sex..but safety above all was extremely important. I KNOW teens fool around and I did not want them getting diseases because they were too ashamed (or unprepared) to ask about doing things properly. I was pretty red-faced but I bravely bought them , opened them and demo’ed as much as I could. They were teenagers and dating. I stressed repeatedly that I did not advocate sexual activity at that time, but I wanted them to know how to protect themselves .

#355 john on 09.14.08 at 7:52 pm

#325 BarbNOBO
Ive been looking for newspapers , tv stations and blogs in those area’s. If we could take PA away from Obama what a STATEMENT that would be about PUMA Power

#356 4hillinca on 09.14.08 at 7:53 pm

#285 Anna 7000
Thanks

#357 NJ1313 on 09.14.08 at 7:53 pm

339 Great pt abut contacting the Repubs.
348 I would love to do that prowl. I have drafted a letter to Disney already.

#358 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 7:53 pm

#312 bythelake…I would be up for that!

#359 CommomSense12 on 09.14.08 at 7:55 pm

HEADS UP EVERYBODY

I just bought for only about $15.00 from Amazon.com the following book. It came yesterday. “The Case Against Barack Obama” by David Freddoso. It’s an excellent current report of some 290 pages.

Among other things on page 163 we have the following: “Michelle Obama’s employer, University of Chicago Hospitals, raised her pay from $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005, two months after her husband became a U.S. Senator. Barack Obama would later request a $1 million federal earmark for the hospital. Her job is public relations. There’s a lot more in this book.

Suggest you get a copy and check it out.

Common Sense 12

#360 kat in your hat on 09.14.08 at 7:56 pm

“Devastating Video, Obama talks about job Ayers gave him”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I-N5I

(This is especially for those pumas who are following the Obama/ Ayers history: Chicago Annenberg Challenge)

#361 john on 09.14.08 at 7:56 pm

Back Channels: Don’t Cry Racism if Obama Loses. He Couldn’t Have Gotten This Far Without White Support.

Excerpt: Hey, Barack Obama could not have clinched the nomination without votes from white Americans. The other party isn’t supposed to just concede the election based on skin color. Voters shouldn’t have to choose based on race when they disagree on issues or believe a candidate isn’t up to the job.
entire story http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#362 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 7:57 pm

#348 Anna7000 sounds like a plan after all our work so far just don’t want to see it not happen… So sounds good to me.. :) Hey blue did you get bite by any snakes yesterday ?????

#363 BarbNOBO on 09.14.08 at 7:57 pm

#353 john….The Sharon Herald and the New Castle News are two that I know of but will check for others. I would like to get others here involved to do some canvassing and calling!

#364 Asian4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 7:57 pm

PUMA RADIO IN 3 MINUTES

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/15/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO

#365 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 8:00 pm

Did a Puma do this? It’s awesome!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYc7QsWLhrA&feature=related

#366 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 8:00 pm

360 slyt2
bought bottle – saw proof !!! bottle unopened for safety!!! lol lol

#367 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 8:03 pm

Keep losing power…..I certainly feel for the hurricane victims.

Okay, I have to get this off my chest since I know it will never be shown on the Obama newest youtube!
*********************************************

I’d rather have a President who can talk face to face with a foreign leader than one hip hop, blackberry typing, knuckle bumping, inexperienced, poor excuse of a candidate for President of the United States.

NOBAMA/NOBIDEN/NOVEMBER

#368 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 8:04 pm

#364 Blue Blue Gal What????? Don’t be a wimp, you were the one who was going ride shot gun into a hurricane and your scared of a bottle oh the shame..

#369 mick on 09.14.08 at 8:06 pm

Ugh, I need a shower now. After reading some of the comments from the Obots on DailyKos, I feel so dirty, ick.

One poster said, “Gosh that angry mob at the Republican convention was scary.”

WTH? The only angry mob that I heard about was all of the crazy moonbats outside the convention.

And another poster said this, “I would also be willing to bet that most of them [republicans] have never been outside the US.” I find this so amusing! I guess my mission work in Nicaragua doesn’t count. Lol

Maybe you all can help this ignorant republican with this line of thinking … why do some democrats think that Republican peeps have never been outside of the U.S.?

GOSUEF4HIL, I do think that you will see some PUMAs jump ship over to the Obama camp. I’m sure the pressure from family and friends to vote party line is enormous so I can understand why some would vote Obama.

#173 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 5:01 pm
This will make you vomit but I am not so sure I believe the writer was a PUMA, it seems a little coontrived to me…

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/14/1456/12347/455/598560

#370 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 8:10 pm

This should be a link in the action center

http://www.obamareligion.net/

#371 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 8:11 pm

366 slyt2

shotgun not scary
snakes are

husband gave me same warning you did – 1 per hour -
will give it a shot ( no pun intended lol) when no alarm clock the following morn -

#372 jamesinseattle on 09.14.08 at 8:14 pm

I love Hillary Rodham Clinton. I love her because, as a 45 year old man, she is one of only a handful of human beings (note, I said human being and not woman) in my lifetime that I truly admire, respect and aspire to be like. Yet Hillary is a woman, one who has devoted her life to the cause of woman’s rights around the world, and as a man, I find that to be an extremely noble cause. In my opinion, women are generally the ones who truly see the world from a balanced intellectual, emotional and spiritual point of view, and it’s this amazing perspective that qualifies them to govern and lead, above men.

Unfortunately, most men don’t see it as I do, or they do but fear that power in women, so they must suppress and control women to feel empowered themselves. They easily do this because men are generally physically larger and can dominate them, and/or they control all the governments, wealth and corporate power which allow them to stifle ‘their’ women. In most societies, women are to be seen and not heard and are possessions of their men, and any woman who tries to advance herself is chastised with sexism and misogyny. And don’t get me started on religion, because that has always been man’s greatest tool to suppress women. I’ve lived all over the world and I’ve seen it first-hand. I also have a mother and two sisters, aunts, and countless female friends. To most of them, and many men like me, Hillary Rodham Clinton represented, and still does, a modern movement for women across the globe. To finally see a female POTUS would be the ultimate shattering of male dominated society in our modern times. But it was not to be….this time around, at least.

I became a PUMA because, as a male Democrat, I am ashamed at the behavior of the DNC, Obama campaign and many of his supporters. We are supposed to be the party of the people and we had a golden opportunity to take a giant leap forward for women’s rights and equality. This was Hillary’s and all women’s moment, not just because it was high-time to take that leap, but because Hillary is a highly intelligent, articulate and experienced leader with an encyclopedia about the issues that affect us all in her brain; exactly what we need in these chaotic times. She is our generations FDR and because she is a woman, she would have changed the face of gender politics forever.

But the powers that be, which apparently isn’t us voters any longer, opted for yet another man, only this time one who pseudo-represents a political social movement that has nothing to do with being a Democrat at all. With all due respect, women of all races have been suffering oppression much longer than any one specific race or class of people. But that’s the male dominated powers for you. They push a racial movement to mask their sexism because they think we’re all stupid and will buy it. They over-turned the will of the voting Democrats to select a sexist, homophobic “Bush-like” slick-tongue Willy who’s mesmerized a lot of shallow minded, angry and/or fearful people with empty promises of change. And they call it “new politics”. Yeah right.

I believe in the PUMA movement because I believe it is time for woman, and frankly men, everywhere to say NO to this archaic way of treating and thinking about women, and a big NO to the corrupt and manipulative way in which Obama stole the nomination from Hillary. I believe the Democrats have proven to us all that they are no longer the party of the people because they ignored the will of the people and more than half of those people are women, a constituency they clearly don’t support the advancement of. I support strongly a protest vote against Obama and the DNC at the top of the ticket in November. Only by defeating Obama will women everywhere win this battle, which in itself is a victory for all Americans, and in 2012, we will have Hillary as our President.

#373 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:15 pm

john – i think focusing on pa is crucial. i have the impression that philly will likely go to bo, but pittsburg is less certain. and then there’s all the rest of that gorgeous green, rolling hills state in between!

#374 Hill4me on 09.14.08 at 8:17 pm

girlsrule, VAKaforPalin:
thanks for stopping by and sharing. I too have been visiting…..your neighborhood. It was there that I connected with the vid you mentioned “Dr. Mr Obama”. Hopefully it will get even more play to help keep O out of the WH. The Bots must really be running scared and taking queues from their leader since your site was unbelievable overrun by the droves this weekend by the Bots. From what little I was able to glean, your site is totally open to anyone–no moderator or dungeon.
Too bad.
Here, Murphy and crew do a fantastic job of keeping our Puma paths cleared for research and prowls. A safer haven for viewing the trees through the forest, and truths.
Come visit again. You are welcome.

#375 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 8:17 pm

Good evening everyone! I finally finished cramming all my homework in. 8) Just read some of the posts.
#367Mick- I really doubt that is a Puma member.
VAKat- Welcome!

#376 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 8:17 pm

Great job Dances !! Thanks for your time and energy to the Action Center page.

#377 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 8:17 pm

#369 Blue Blue Gal There you go that’s the Brave Puma I know :) #359 john hmmm I watched to shows today that said that this is democrat year and if BO loses could it be , is it because…… he is a AA.

#378 webfoot on 09.14.08 at 8:19 pm

dcinlasvegas-here is the federal government website for campaign contributions. The August information isn’t on there yet.
http://www.fec.gov/disclosure.shtml

#379 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 8:20 pm

#112 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 3:53 pm
I hope everyone sees post #33 so you will know who I am. I wanted to share a video with all of you titled “Dear Mr. Obama” by an Iraq War Veteran named Specialist Joe Cooke. It is VERY powerful and I have been writing to find someone who could fund this for tv. It has almost 6 1/2 million views on you tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
*****

I watched the “Dear Mr. Obama” video last week when someone posted it. It is very touching at the very end.
Perhaps some of us who are so inclined can blitz the McCain people to use it for their TV ad. It is very factual and powerful without smearing anyone.

#380 mick on 09.14.08 at 8:24 pm

#358 kat in your hat

Did you read the comment part of that YouTube video?

This scary comment below caught my eye. Even before reading this, I’ve often thought that if Obama loses that we will see riots. I hope I’m wrong. It will be a very sad day in American history if we do.

“TawanaObama (20 minutes ago)
You racist white motherf#ckers are going to pay if you bring our proud black brother, Barack Obama down.

The only reason white people aren’t voting for him is because he is strong, smart and BLACK. You’re all a bunch of racists. If Obama is not elected president we are going to riot in the streets and burn the cities down. We’ve had enough of sitting in the back of the bus. We aren’t going to take this sh#t lying down. We black Muslims are going to serve you up some black justice!

Obama4ever”

#381 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 8:25 pm

Yes I am catholic don’t know how they knew this but I got this letter today and I wanted to share the polling .
CATHOLIC POLLING DATA:

Pollster John Zogby remarks that McCain is winning Catholic voters by double digits:

“The striking thing here in this poll is that McCain has pulled ahead among Catholics by double-digits…”
– John Zogby, “Republicans Hold Small Post-Convention Edge,” Zogby International, 9/6/08

CNN Poll shows McCain winning white Catholic voters by a 23-point margin:

“But McCain-Palin have pulled ahead among independents (50-43), among married women (48-44) and especially among white Catholics (59-36).”
– Andrew Malcolm, “2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women,” Los Angeles Times, 9/8/08

They have a website catholics for McCains.

#382 Hill4me on 09.14.08 at 8:27 pm

Jamesinseattle: thank you for posting.
good to read a man’s intellectual and candid point of view.

#383 Hill4me on 09.14.08 at 8:31 pm

Jamesinseattle: (…continued)
…if you could only viral those viewpoints down south here in PDX.

#384 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 8:36 pm

need to cook dinner – bbl

#385 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 8:38 pm

Even though we don’t endorse McCain, amybe we should do a special fundraiser/donation to his campaign ans PUMS against Obama. LOL

#386 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 8:39 pm

oops (typos) PUMAS against Obama.

#387 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:40 pm

QUESTION – HELP

What’s the approx number of e-mail addresses it’s safe to put into the bcc box w/o risking it all being perceived as spam?

What’s the point of using the bcc box instead of “to” or “cc” for mass e-mails?

Thanks.

#388 NobamaNetwork on 09.14.08 at 8:40 pm

#378 Mick,
ignore those kinds of comments. They called us racists, angry white women, stupid, etc. That didn’t work. Threatening to riot isn’t going to work any better. Let them riot. They can watch the election results from jail.

#389 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:40 pm

blue – just open the flip top of the can and you’re good to go!

#390 NobamaNetwork on 09.14.08 at 8:42 pm

Remember, a vote for McPalin is a vote Obama will never get! If you are planning to write in a name or vote for none of the above you need to check your state laws to find out if those kinds of votes are assigned to a candidate anyway.

#391 Bella-Me on 09.14.08 at 8:44 pm

These open threads are getting longer and longer day by day. I can barely find the time to read them in their entirety. Phew

Where is the moderator? #378 needs to be removed.

#392 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 8:45 pm

#378 mick I had to go look that up after you posted that and it’s funny almost every single comment is going after that comment now. i was thinking about reporting it but it’s better letting these people tear him/her up.

#393 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 8:47 pm

#389 Bella-Me maybe it’s your computer mine is going fine unless others are having trouble too. Why do you want #378 removed??

#394 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:47 pm

RE: POST # 388
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In order to make sure you understand the voting rules and regulations of your state and in order to make sure we do not allow any window of opportunity to give Obama a single vote not cast for him, voters are encouraged to contact their Secretary of State’s office to educate themselves about the voting parameters in their state. For those who plan to vote for John McCain, this will not be an issue. However, for those still unsure about their strategy, education about how your ballot will be treated is crucial.

If, when you call, the person you speak with sounds unsure about any of their answers, or prefaces their answer with “I think….” or “I’m pretty sure….”, insist that you speak with someone in the office who can answer you question(s) definitively.

Here is a template to use when making your call. To find the phone number for the Secretary of State’s office, check the blue pages in the front of your phone book or call information.

Note: The first two questions pertain to leaving the top of the ticket blank, however leaving the top of the ticket blank is not advised since it will leave your ballot vulnerable to being tampered with. Therefore, likely best to have a voting strategy that leaves no areas blank.
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SoS Phone:

SoS Web Address:

Person I spoke with:

Date and Time:

If I vote for everything except President and leave the President slot empty, will it be counted toward the candidate of the party of which I am a member anyway?

If I am not a member of either major party, how would leaving the President slot blank be counted?

If I write in a name in the President slot that is permitted under (your state) law, will it be counted toward the person who I write it?

If I write in a name in the President slot that is NOT permitted under (your state) law, will it be counted anyway, be ignore, or will it go toward another Presidential candidate? If the latter, how is that determined?

Is there any other scenario other than what I’ve described whereby if I don’t vote for one of the Presidential candidates on the ticket, my vote may still be counted toward one of them in some way? If so, please describe.

If I don’t vote for President, but vote for down ticket candidates, is it possible for my ballot to be discounted because it wasn’t complete?

#395 osaka puma on 09.14.08 at 8:48 pm

re#378 mick
“The only reason white people aren’t voting for him is because he is strong, smart and BLACK. ”
strong..he bowled a pitiful 37..hehe
smart..he thinks there are 57 states hehe
black..well they have that half right..hehe
:lol:

#396 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 8:49 pm

#389 Bella-Me opps sorry misread it’s they are long my fault i thought you meant it was taking a long time for your computer to refresh at first.. lol.

#397 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:52 pm

NICE PIECE ON WILL BOWER’S WEB SITE:

It’s time to build, and build big. As PUMAs let us make it our personal mission to personally recruit 3 people to our cause between now and election day. Once we bring them on board, let’s have them go out and get 3 as well. Think of it this way, if you personally get 3 people infused with PUMA power, and they get 3 people each, that’s 9 new PUMAs, if those 9 get 3, that’s 27 new PUMAs, if those 27 get 3, that’s 81 PUMAs, 81 PUMAs getting 3 each, that’s 243 new PUMAs, when those 243 get 3 that’s 729 PUMAs, and when those 729 get 3 PUMAs, you would have brought in 2,187 PUMAs to the cause simply because you showed your PUMA pride and had 3 people join the cause!

So let’s go, go, go!

PUMA Power!

#398 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:52 pm

NICE PIECE ON WILL BOWER’S WEB SITE:

It’s time to build, and build big. As PUMAs let us make it our personal mission to personally recruit 3 people to our cause between now and election day. Once we bring them on board, let’s have them go out and get 3 as well. Think of it this way, if you personally get 3 people infused with PUMA power, and they get 3 people each, that’s 9 new PUMAs, if those 9 get 3, that’s 27 new PUMAs, if those 27 get 3, that’s 81 PUMAs, 81 PUMAs getting 3 each, that’s 243 new PUMAs, when those 243 get 3 that’s 729 PUMAs, and when those 729 get 3 PUMAs, you would have brought in 2,187 PUMAs to the cause simply because you showed your PUMA pride and had 3 people join the cause!

So let’s go, go, go!

PUMA Power!

#399 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:53 pm

sorry
sorry

#400 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 8:59 pm

Anna7000- Very funny. You had a question about bcc and cc. Use bcc because others will not know they are being sent mass mail.

#401 Hill4me on 09.14.08 at 8:59 pm

NobamaNetwork: Remember, a vote for McPalin is a vote Obama will never get! If you are planning to write in a name or vote for none of the above you need to check your state laws to find out if those kinds of votes are assigned to a candidate anyway.

I agree. Everyone MUST get the facts from their states. I’ve stated this on our blog multiple times.
You can use OREGON as a perfect example: here in this state, if you sign-in someone’s name, based on tallies and percentages, your vote will automatically go to the Dem’s winner, which in this state IS Obama.
Yes, it’s not fair. But in this state, it’s legal.
Please Pumas, whatever your decision on how to vote, you must check with your own state’s voting rules & requirements.
I urge all Oregonian Pumas to not sit at home or write-in, but vote top of the ticket: McCain/Palin for this reason.

#402 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 9:00 pm

#336 Blue Blue Gal ,

I am in Bosque County. There are also some in the San Antonio and Houston areas but don’ t know the county names.

#403 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 9:01 pm

On foxnews if anyone cares greta is going to be doing a show on Sarah Palin starting right now.

#404 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 9:01 pm

What’s the point of using the bcc box instead of “to” or “cc” for mass e-mails?

with blind copies (bcc) teh recipients don’t know who else the email was sent to

#405 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 9:02 pm

Anna

when I send BCC (Blind copies) I put my own name in teh TO text box

#406 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 9:02 pm

cassie and dances – thanks. that’s what i thought, but wanted to make sure.

meanwhile, anyone know the number limit, or is there no limit if you use bcc?

#407 mick on 09.14.08 at 9:07 pm

Ugh, still no satellite TV.

Is it an interview? slyt2, can you please update me from time to time?

#401 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 9:01 pm On foxnews if anyone cares greta is going to be doing a show on Sarah Palin starting right now.

#408 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 9:07 pm

#352 Sunshinelvr ,

I, too educated my son on sex and birth control when i thought he was old enough. I also taught him to stay away from strangers. I didn’t want the school to teach him. I believe that is the parents job. I think the school can send a note home that they will assist if the parent needs or wants it but that is as far as they should go. Let the parents be parents and the teachers be teachers. Religion, culture, and morals should be taught at home. My opinion but a strong one.

#409 KarenWI on 09.14.08 at 9:09 pm

Hi. I’m new here. I’ve been a regular on the McCain blog and heard about you from someone who is on both blogs. I’ve been reading your blog regularly for some weeks now, and now just joined. I hope you don’t mind a repub (don’t worry, I’m not going to try to make you repubs) who is just as FURIOUS at what the dem leadership (and BO) did to Hillary, and has an absolute TERROR at the thought of BO winning.

#410 Amarissa on 09.14.08 at 9:10 pm

Hi, all, don’t know if you saw this but it is great to pass on: “Evidence Gibson Was Prejudiced Against Palin: Comparison of Palin and Obama Interviews”

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=29535

It is very well documented with links to ABC’s original scripts. Please pass it on, especially to the media in protest!

Texassherry: I posted it on your site also!

#411 thecandypoem on 09.14.08 at 9:10 pm

Hillary cancelled her Willamette fundraiser today–because of “weather.”

#412 Amarissa on 09.14.08 at 9:11 pm

#399 Hill4me
Amen to that!

#413 Bella-Me on 09.14.08 at 9:13 pm

391 slyt2 I think it is not appropriate to post the comments from those sites especially when it has the flaming content it has in it.

I personally feel #378 is offensive. Going to those sites and bringing those type of comments to this site serves NO positive purpose. Discussing racial voting and riots are only forms of intimidation and fear tactics and using vulgarity is inappropriate.

If no one else has a problem with it then I respect that. I am new since Friday and just will not be back.

#414 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 9:13 pm

#405 mick sure can , it’s not a interview (yet) it has interviews in it (things about being a govern her life ) it is interviewing friends and a woman who wrote a book on her and talking about her life growing up her parents, siblings, highschool, college. It is really good and interesting she is funny and had a normal middle class up bringing.Greta is narrating it.

#415 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 9:16 pm

#410 Bella-Me WHOA i asked a question what is your problem, this is all I said “Why do you want #378 remove”?? I’m going back to watch the show whatever.

#416 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 9:17 pm

#407 Amarissa ,

Thanks.

#417 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 9:18 pm

#385 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 8:40 pm

QUESTION – HELP
WE SEND OUT 4,000 EMAILS AT A TIME. TYPICALLY BREAK THEM DOWN TO 100 AT A TIME. I USE COX SO I CAN GET AWAY WITH SENDING 300 OR 4OO BEFORE IT CATCHES THAT I AM SPAMMING (ITS TO OUR CUSTOMERS) AFTER THAT, I HAVE TO WAIT 2 HOURS BEFORE I CAN SEND AGAIN. SO TO BE SAFE, JUST SEND 50 AT A TIME.
What’s the approx number of e-mail addresses it’s safe to put into the bcc box w/o risking it all being perceived as spam?

What’s the point of using the bcc box instead of “to” or “cc” for mass e-mails?
A FEW PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY REPLIED TO THIS. HOWEVER, I PUT MY OWN EMAIL ADDRESS AT THE END OF THE BCC EMAIL LIST SO THAT I KNOW THAT MY BCC WORKS. IF YOU PUT IT IN THE “TO” I ALWAYS WORRY THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT THE EMAIL.

IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF EMAILS TO SEND AND THE CONTENT IS IDENTICAL, BCC TAKES NO TIME AT ALL.

ACTUALLY, IF ONE OF US HAVE A LOT OF EMAILS TO SEND AND WE DON’T WANT TO USE OUR OWN EMAIL ADDRESS, WE CAN FORWARD THIS EMAIL LIST TO SOME WILLING PUMA TO DO IT. OTHERWISE, JUST CREATE ANOTHER EMAIL ADDRESS JUST FOR SPAMMING PURPOSE.

#418 thecandypoem on 09.14.08 at 9:22 pm

Huffington Post has banned me, and deleted all my posts. I have no idea why. Apparently they only deal with the converted. Tough times there. Anyone else have that experience?

#419 mick on 09.14.08 at 9:28 pm

Whoa, didn’t mean to offend you #410 Bella-Me.

I only viewed that YouTube because if was posted on this blog. That comment wasn’t MY comment, it’s from one of the Obama supporters. It caught my attention because I found it so crazy and I thought I would share my thoughts about it. My purpose in posting it was to show how crazy some of the Obots are getting in their hate speech. If admin. wants to remove my post its okay by me.

There’s really no need to get so upset, it’s not the first time some of the hateful Obot comments are posted here from another site.

#410 Bella-Me on 09.14.08 at 9:13 pm 391 slyt2 I think it is not appropriate to post the comments from those sites especially when it has the flaming content it has in it.

I personally feel #378 is offensive. Going to those sites and bringing those type of comments to this site serves NO positive purpose. Discussing racial voting and riots are only forms of intimidation and fear tactics and using vulgarity is inappropriate.

If no one else has a problem with it then I respect that. I am new since Friday and just will not be back.

#420 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 9:28 pm

#410 Belle Me i was at the store next to where i live and a young fellow came in and the owners wife was talking to be about Hillary. I said yes i just love that lady. Well he went off on me. Called me every name in the book. Said when BO got in they would take older women like me and sliit our throats and the younger ones make slaves out of them. Burn our homes and steal everything we have. The owner grabbed him by the scuff of his neck and threw him out of the store. This is what and who they really are and how horrible his followerd talk.

#421 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 9:31 pm

If you are not a adult then you can be affended but the truth is the truth and we all are adults in here.

#422 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 9:33 pm

Post # 417 – SandiPuma – the guy that verbally assaulted you, was he AA or ?

I am getting quotes for orange ribbon as pins with No Obama on it – for Murphy . I wonder how many will actually wear it ? I know I won’t.

#423 scarlet on 09.14.08 at 9:34 pm

FUND RACE

FundRace makes it easy to search by name or address to see which presidential candidates your friends, family, co-workers, and neighbors are contributing to. Or you can se if your favorite celebrity is putting money where their mouth is.

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/index.php

#424 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 9:35 pm

Here are links for everyone who has not seen the National Press Club by Larry Sinclair, it has six parts:

Larry Sinclair National Press Club:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUNEip42xsM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw2hc05HwPw&feature=related

#425 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 9:36 pm

Parts 3 and 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ13qyFup98&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AfVPvASc_4&feature=related

#426 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 9:36 pm

Yes Freddie he was and about 25 yrs old. Yet my best bud is AA and so to me i never look at color because God made us all equal

#427 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 9:37 pm

400 texassherry
collin county is next county over to the right of me -
but then i never heard more from hispanicfor hillary – hopefully she took the e-mail addy for southwest pumas and will use it to reach out. i have only received one , maybe two emails from them since waaaaay back.

#428 mick on 09.14.08 at 9:37 pm

Oh, check this out … this is good.

“Ex-Clinton Aide: Media Tougher On Palin
Political Players: Former Clinton Chief Strategist Mark Penn Argues The Press Has Lost Its Credibility”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/politics/politicalplayers/main4442492.shtml

#429 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 9:38 pm

I hate to see the Obot’s comments posted here but this one that is now in debate certainly is powerful in that it shows us WHY WE SHOULD STEP UP OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS NOBAMA. . We should totally blitz all media and everyone , to show them what Obama’s Black brothers and sisters intend to do. This offends me to the max. This is not how America should pick a president – under threat of our cities burning.

#378 mick on 09.14.08 at 8:24 pm
#358 kat in your hat
Did you read the comment part of that YouTube video?

This scary comment below caught my eye. Even before reading this, I’ve often thought that if Obama loses that we will see riots. I hope I’m wrong. It will be a very sad day in American history if we do.

“TawanaObama (20 minutes ago)
You racist white motherf#ckers are going to pay if you bring our proud black brother, Barack Obama down.

The only reason white people aren’t voting for him is because he is strong, smart and BLACK. You’re all a bunch of racists. If Obama is not elected president we are going to riot in the streets and burn the cities down. We’ve had enough of sitting in the back of the bus. We aren’t going to take this sh#t lying down. We black Muslims are going to serve you up some black justice!

Obama4ever”

#430 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 9:38 pm

I can’t wear them where i live. LOL

#431 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 9:39 pm

Parts 5 & 6 of Larry Sinclair (parts 1-4 listed above in posts numbered 422 & 423:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYin6nMAz-o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeyYWr4Jao&feature=related

#432 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 9:40 pm

HELP WANTED :

#378 mick on 09.14.08 at 8:24 pm
#358 kat in your hat

Can you post the link where this “obama4 Ever” posted his comments. We must serve this up to the media.

#433 NobamaNetwork on 09.14.08 at 9:41 pm

Too funny Fox is doing a story on Palin, CNN I mean ONN is doing a story on Palin at the same time but of course they are demonizing her. CNN advertisers need to hear from the PUMAs.

#434 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 9:41 pm

if you have watched the links to the Larry Sinclair National Press Club briefing, and you question whether or not Obama was still using drugs in 1999, maybe these two videos will raise a few eyebrows as to whether he is STILL using them…note in this video he says “hold on a second I can’t hear myself and NO ONE is uttering a word”…he appears a bit “tipsy” to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

#435 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 9:41 pm

Geraldine F is being interviewed about Palin she is just going on and on about her saying I can’t give her any advice she is doing great on her own , she doesn’t need any help from me. She is said Joe Biden better be careful during debates because Sarah is good.

#436 girlsrule on 09.14.08 at 9:42 pm

Just in case you are wondering if this was the only time he appears “tipsy”, here is another example (maybe he is the one who needs a breathalizer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Sorry if these things have already been posted.

#437 NobamaNetwork on 09.14.08 at 9:42 pm

Please make sure to read the Biden out Hillary in notice on http://www.nobamanetwork.com

#438 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 9:44 pm

girlsrule
Can’t see the video. What’s wrong?

#439 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 9:47 pm

This op-ed from Jon Voight might have been posted before. Sorry if it is a repeat.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/28/voight/

#440 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 9:49 pm

Sandi Puma- God made us equal ? Sure- but God has nothing to do with the evil stuff that is in people’s heads and the evil stuff that comes out of their mouths.

Also, if God were equal, I would have preferred he gave me a pair of 34DD instead of the girl down the street.

#441 mccaindemo on 09.14.08 at 9:49 pm

Welcome back Murphy! Annabelle, wonderful post and Thank you,Dances for all you to.

Well, hang on for a terrible week of trashing Sarah Palin–The National Enquirer is GOING AFTER HER KIDS. I wonder how much $$$$ Obama minions gaveto the NE to spread around to ferret out “true-ahem” stories up in Alaska. When did kids become political fodder ???

A Message to Obama,Michelle Obama, the Media:

Are your kids ‘fair game’ now ? Can we lie, slander, report any thing someone says because they’don’t like’ them??? Your enemies are probably chomping at the bit to dig thru your childs school records, medical records (gosh, is one of your kids hitting the cough medicine a bit too much for a high? Hmm lets see, what else…), can we drag their names thru the mud, flog them pubicly just to ‘get’ to you ??? Katy Couric..what about your little girls…fair game ?? What about the rest of you media types on CNN,MSNBS,ABC ..your little ones fair game ?And BO&MO have you given us tacit approval to ravage your two daughters in the press ??? There seems to be a true Saul Alinsky , ‘win at ALL COSTS’, truly dirty campaign . Moms & Dads throughout this great country of ours should have no trouble sending Obama sleazy ways back to Chicago in November. Good Riddance!

#442 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.14.08 at 9:53 pm

**********************************************

PERCEPTION IS REALITY

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this is now what i believe the democrats are banking on, I truly believe they think

“if we say it, they will vote”…

Total BS!! We are not coming around. I am w/ all of the posters above, not today, not tomorrow, not next week, not next month and most certainly NOT ON ELECTION DAY!!

so put that in your pipe Howie…

#443 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 9:57 pm

You racist white motherf#ckers are going to pay if you bring our proud black brother, Barack Obama down.
———————————————————
I’ve already paid. I contribute to puma pac.
Sometimes I think it’s McCain freaks posting those comments to drive whomeve is left away from teh obama camp.
Burn the place down. Who cares? I don’t. Although, it woudl be fun to what your sorry ass being dressed in PUMA Orange and being frog jumped to prison.

#444 LaureyPuma on 09.14.08 at 9:57 pm

#315, Missy, I can empathise with your frustration. I think everyone will get that we will not come around for Obama on November 5th.

#445 john on 09.14.08 at 9:58 pm

Anna 7000 and BarbNOBO No doubt PA is crucial an if we can take PA from Obama thats a POWERFUL statement by the PUMA’s

#446 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 9:58 pm

freddie – thanks for answering my question (been away from the blog for a bit. sorry for the delay in getting back to you). i’ve typically used links to media outlets, but now plan to use the media links in the action center more often on my own and wanted to make sure i didn’t overload how many to do at a time. your post was exactly the info i needed.

#447 lilibet on 09.14.08 at 10:00 pm

Thank you, Cassie, for the link to the Washington Times article. I had not already read it. I believe that Mr. Voight points out clearly what we will be facing if Obama should be elected President.

#448 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 10:00 pm

LOL Freddie good one

#449 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:00 pm

john and barb – i think sunny pa has been pretty focused on PA, but she doesn’t blog here that much any more, which is a shame cause she’s a great person and a real addition to this blog. but, i know she’s off doing her thing elsewhere and is the type of person who will do everything in her power to make sure bo doesn’t win pa.

#450 Headclunker on 09.14.08 at 10:01 pm

Greta on Fox did a really good job with the Palin Story

#451 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:02 pm

#424 Blue Blue Gal ,

I think the last time I got an email from them was when Howard Dean was here.

#452 shampoovta on 09.14.08 at 10:03 pm

Good night all!

#453 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 10:03 pm

LuareyPuma

Did you try to get in touch with me?

#454 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 10:05 pm

Oops Laurey Puma … so sorry ..can’t seem to type today.

#455 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 10:06 pm

441 LaureyPuma
are you the laurey that I once knew? ummm, magnolia house?

#456 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 10:07 pm

good night shamooovta sweet dreams

#457 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:08 pm

lilibet
I was actually feeling lonely and didn’t know if anyone knew I was around. :cry: I had read that and really feel that alot of people feel that way but would be afraid to say it. He is a courageous man. Did you know he was being blacklisted from hollywood?

#458 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:09 pm

INTERESTING ANALYSIS OF WHY CERTAIN TRADITIONALLY RED STATES IN THE WEST ARE LEANING BLUE:

Just saw a story in the paper about how lots of Californians are moving from CA to states like Wyoming, Montana, etc and are impacting the political scene. It is surely clear when you look at this electoral map:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/electoral.map/index.html

#459 Headclunker on 09.14.08 at 10:09 pm

DancesWithPumas #440

Where did you get that? Don’t get into it with those O’bots. I usually tell them that Obama is biracial and it is generally considered to be one of his assets. He is bringing himself down and his opposition is diverse.

#460 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 10:10 pm

Hill4me,

yes the trolls seem to “love” our neighborhood…. that’s why I come here! :)

#461 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 10:10 pm

#447 Headclunker Yea she did,
I didn’t know CNN was doing a show on her also glad I didn’t but sure I wouldn’t have watched it anyways.

#462 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 10:11 pm

Topic – Small Favor

Too many bots where I live here in the PNW, esp in msm. In one prominent newspaper, ALL of the articles, columns, letters to the editor and even the editorial cartoon today were incredibly biased; each and every one, either flailing away at Palin or crying foul about how bad, awful-bad, the Republican ticket is (Garrison Keiler’s column http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped0910keillorsep10,0,7101227.column) (“in politics we bring forth phonies and love them to death”).

With that in mind, could, would a few of you please help me out by sending an email w/ whatever quick & dirty message you have on-hand (don’t go to any extra trouble for this) about either the media’s continual bias for a Obama-the-unelectable, or about the strength of the McCain / Palin ticket?

Oh, & please in your message do state you were “considering” advertising with them, “but since viewing the stories in your editorial section on Sunday,” decided against it!

Here’s the email addy’s you can BCC your email to:

donovan.mack@registerguard.com
gail.whiting@registerguard.com
curtis.diama@registerguard.com
rgletters@registerguard.com

Thanks a bunch!

#463 bobram on 09.14.08 at 10:12 pm

JOHN – are you still on here – last week Texas Tigress gave us some Penna TV stations that some of us sent emails – maybe this is what you might need

need.newsroom@thepittsburghchannel.com; assignments@wpxi.com;
dbelmondo@wjettv.com; aiannetta@wjettv.com; bsheridan@wjettv.com;
fox43assignment@tribune.com; DawnHensley@cbs21.com; news@fox8tv.com;
news@wjactv.com; programming@fox29.com; tips@cbs3.com;
joanne.wilder@nbcuni.com;

#464 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 10:13 pm

Hi Headclunker,
I’m all with you on holding the delegates accountable.
Hope we undertake that as one of our very near & dear tasks.

(((Headclunker!)))

#465 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:13 pm

hillstheone – sounds from your post that you’re already well on your way to a letter. if you want to write a draft and post, i’d be happy to look at it and edit/comment. i gotta go eat, but will check back. if you do post a letter, make sure you type a heading that’s easy to find.

#466 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:13 pm

hillstheone – sounds from your post that you’re already well on your way to a letter. if you want to write a draft and post, i’d be happy to look at it and edit/comment. i gotta go eat, but will check back. if you do post a letter, make sure you type a heading that’s easy to find.

#467 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 10:14 pm

456 Headclunker
I copied it from Fred’s comment.
I wouldnt bring obot trash in here…

#468 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 10:17 pm

#461 hillstheone on 09.14.08 at 10:13 pm
Hi Headclunker,
I’m all with you on holding the delegates accountable.
Hope we undertake that as one of our very near & dear tasks.
————
I agree, I want the delegates to wonder if they will get our support in Nov. when we did not get theirs in Denver.

Here is the website mentioned by Sherri on blogtalk radio for original delegate allocations.
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http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D-Del.phtml

Dances, could you please put this link for ‘The Green Papers’ – list of delegate allocations for each state, on the website if it isn’t already on…please.

#469 Luckyseven on 09.14.08 at 10:17 pm

#379 re the zogby poll
I got an email from zogby asking if I was interested in taking part in their polls, Of course, I said yes. The poll that I just filled out had those questions in it. I tried to compress the form for your perusal. Note – they wanted to know if I shopped at Wal-Mart – Of course on the opposite side, they wanted to know if I was an investor.

Top of Form

Thank you for agreeing to participate in this online survey about a variety of subjects.
What state do you live in? *
State **
How likely are you to vote in national elections? *
*Very likely *
*Somewhat likely *
*Not likely *
*Not sure *
Are you registered to vote in the United States? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
In the 2004 presidential election, the candidates were Democrat John Kerry, Republican George W. Bush, Constitution Party Michael Peroutka, Libertarian Party Michael Badnarik, Green Party David Cobb, and Independent Ralph Nader. For whom did you vote? *
*Kerry *
*Bush *
*Nader *
*Peroutka *
*Badnarik *
*Cobb *
*Someone else *
*Did not vote *
*Not sure *
In which party are you either registered to vote or do you consider yourself to be a member … *
*Democratic *
*Republican *
*Independent/unenrolled/Unaffiliated *
*Libertarian *
*Constitution *
*Green *
*Natural Law *
*Reform *
*Other *
*Not sure *
.If the election for President of the United States were held today and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, for whom would you vote? *
*Barack Obama *
*John McCain *
*Someone else *
*Not Sure *
If the election for President of the United States were held today and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, Independent Ralph Nader, or Libertarian Bob Barr, for whom would you vote? *
*Barack Obama *
*John McCain *
*Ralph Nader *
*Bob Barr *
*Someone Else *
*Not Sure *
If the election for President of the United States were held today and the candidates were Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden or Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin for whom would you vote? *
*Barack Obama and Joe Biden *
*John McCain and Sarah Palin *
*Someone else *
*Not Sure *
Which presidential candidate did you support this year in your state’s primary or caucus? *
*Barack Obama *
*Hillary Clinton *
*John McCain *
*Mitt Romney *
*Mike Huckabee *
*Fred Thompson *
*Rudy Giuliani *
*Ron Paul *
*Someone else *
*I did not vote in my state’s primary or caucus *
*Other/Not sure *
In the election for Congress this year, will you vote for the Democrat or the Republican? *
*Democrat *
*Republican *
*Neither/someone else *
*Will not vote for Congress *
*Not sure *
Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable opinion of the following, or are not familiar enough to form an opinion? *
*Very Favorable*Somewhat Favorable*Somewhat Unfavorable*Very unfavorable*Not Familiar*Not Sure*
John McCain *******
Barack Obama *******
Joe Biden *******
Sarah Palin *******
Congressional Democrats *******
Congressional Republicans *******
Your own Congressional Representative *******
Have you changed your mind in the last week about who you will vote for, for President? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
What are the two top issues facing the country today? (Choose up to two.) *
*Taxes *
*Jobs and the economy *
*Education/Schools *
*Immigration *
*Health care/insurance/ Prescription drugs *
*Crime/Drugs/Violence *
*Terrorism/Security *
*Welfare/Child care/Homeless/Housing/Poverty *
*Budget/Spending/Deficit *
*Social Security/Elderly *
*Environment *
*Morality/Values *
*Utility rates/Gas prices *
*Politics/Government/Corruption/Campaign finance reform *
*War in Iraq/Peace/Foreign policy *
*Other (specify:) *
*Not sure/None *
What are the two top issues facing your state today? (Choose up to two.) *
*Taxes *
*Jobs and the economy *
*Education/Schools *
*Immigration *
*Health care/insurance/ Prescription drugs *
*Crime/Drugs/Violence *
*Terrorism/Security *
*Welfare/Child care/Homeless/Housing/Poverty *
*Budget/Spending/Deficit *
*Social Security/Elderly *
*Environment *
*Morality/Values *
*Utility rates/Gas prices *
*Politics/Government/Corruption/Campaign finance reform *
*Other (specify:) *
*Not sure/None *

Which party do you trust more to find practical and effective solutions to the major problems facing the nation today? *
*Democrats *
*Republicans *
*Neither/other party *
Now, for some questions about identity theft or fraud.

When thinking about identity theft or fraud, would you say it is something that worries you? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
What steps do you take to protect yourself from identity theft or fraud? (Choose all that apply) *
*I subscribe to a credit monitoring or alert service and check my reports regularly *
*I check my credit card/checking account statements regularly to look for fraudulent charges *
*I shred documents with my name and personal information *
*I am careful about who I interact with online *
*None of these/Other *
*I do not do anything *
*Not sure

Have you or anyone you know ever been the victim of identity theft or fraud? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
Which of the following things scare you the most? (Choose only ONE) *
*Haunted houses *
*Ghost stories *
*Horror movies, like Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Saw, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc. *
*Becoming the victim of identity theft or fraud *
*None of these/Other *
*Nothing *
*Not sure *
And lastly a question about your occupation.

Are you a nurse or a Medical Doctor? *
*Yes, I am a nurse *
*Yes, I am a medical doctor *
*No *
*Not sure *
If the election for President of the United States were held today and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, for whom would you vote? *
*Barack Obama *
*John McCain *
*Someone else *
*Not Sure *
If the election for President of the United States were held today and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, Independent Ralph Nader, or Libertarian Bob Barr, for whom would you vote? *
*Barack Obama *
*John McCain *
*Ralph Nader *
*Bob Barr *
*Someone Else *
*Not Sure *
If the election for President of the United States were held today and the candidates were Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden or Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin for whom would you vote? *
*Barack Obama and Joe Biden *
*John McCain and Sarah Palin *
*Someone else *
*Not Sure *
Which presidential candidate did you support this year in your state’s primary or caucus? *
*Barack Obama *
*Hillary Clinton *
*John McCain *
*Mitt Romney *
*Mike Huckabee *
*Fred Thompson *
*Rudy Giuliani *
*Ron Paul *
*Someone else *
*I did not vote in my state’s primary or caucus *
*Other/Not sure *
In the election for Congress this year, will you vote for the Democrat or the Republican? *
*Democrat *
*Republican *
*Neither/someone else *
*Will not vote for Congress *
*Not sure *
Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable opinion of the following, or are not familiar enough to form an opinion? *
*Very Favorable*Somewhat Favorable*Somewhat Unfavorable*Very unfavorable*Not Familiar*Not Sure*
John McCain *******
Barack Obama *******
Joe Biden *******
Sarah Palin *******
Congressional Democrats *******
Congressional Republicans *******
Your own Congressional Representative *******
Have you changed your mind in the last week about who you will vote for, for President? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
What are the two top issues facing the country today? (Choose up to two.) *
*Taxes *
*Jobs and the economy *
*Education/Schools *
*Immigration *
*Health care/insurance/ Prescription drugs *
*Crime/Drugs/Violence *
*Terrorism/Security *
*Welfare/Child care/Homeless/Housing/Poverty *
*Budget/Spending/Deficit *
*Social Security/Elderly *
*Environment *
*Morality/Values *
*Utility rates/Gas prices *
*Politics/Government/Corruption/Campaign finance reform *
*War in Iraq/Peace/Foreign policy *
*Other (specify:) *
*Not sure/None *
What are the two top issues facing your state today? (Choose up to two.) *
*Taxes *
*Jobs and the economy *
*Education/Schools *
*Immigration *
*Health care/insurance/ Prescription drugs *
*Crime/Drugs/Violence *
*Terrorism/Security *
*Welfare/Child care/Homeless/Housing/Poverty *
*Budget/Spending/Deficit *
*Social Security/Elderly *
*Environment *
*Morality/Values *
*Utility rates/Gas prices *
*Politics/Government/Corruption/Campaign finance reform *
*Other (specify:) *
*Not sure/None *
Which party do you trust more to find practical and effective solutions to the major problems facing the nation today? *
*Democrats *
*Republicans *
*Neither/other party *
Now, for some questions about identity theft or fraud.

When thinking about identity theft or fraud, would you say it is something that worries you? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
What steps do you take to protect yourself from identity theft or fraud? (Choose all that apply) *
*I subscribe to a credit monitoring or alert service and check my reports regularly *
*I check my credit card/checking account statements regularly to look for fraudulent charges *
*I shred documents with my name and personal information *
*I am careful about who I interact with online *
*None of these/Other *
*I do not do anything *
*Not sure *
Have you or anyone you know ever been the victim of identity theft or fraud? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
Which of the following things scare you the most? (Choose only ONE) *
*Haunted houses *
*Ghost stories *
*Horror movies, like Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Saw, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc. *
*Becoming the victim of identity theft or fraud *
*None of these/Other *
*Nothing *
*Not sure *
And lastly a question about your occupation.

Are you a nurse or a Medical Doctor? *
*Yes, I am a nurse *
*Yes, I am a medical doctor *
*No *
*Not sure *
Thank you. Please give us some information about yourself.

What is your age? *
Age **
Which of the following best represents your race or ethnic group? *
*White *
*African American *
*Asian/Pacific *
*Arab American *
*Other-Specify *
*Refused *
Do you consider yourself Hispanic or Latino? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Which of the following best describes your highest level of education? *
*Less than high school graduate *
*High school graduate *
*Some college *
*College graduate+ *
*Refused *
Which of the following best represents where you live? *
*Large city (100,000 or more residents) *
*Small city (less than 100,000 residents) *
*Suburbs *
*Rural area *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Which description best represents your political ideology? *
*Progressive/very liberal *
*Liberal *
*Moderate *
*Conservative *
*Very conservative *
*Libertarian *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Which of the following best represents your religious affiliation? *
*Roman Catholic *
*Protestant/other non-denominational Christian *
*Jewish *
*Muslim *
*Mormon *
*Atheist/realist/humanist *
*No affiliation *
*Other-Specify *
Are you or is anyone in your household a member of a union? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Are you a parent or guardian of a child under 17 who is living at home? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Refused *
Which of the following best describes your marital status? *
*Married *
*Single, never married *
*Divorced/widowed/separated *
*Civil union/domestic partnership *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Do you consider yourself to be mostly a resident of: your city or town, America, or the planet earth? *
*My city or town *
*America *
*The planet earth *
*Not sure/refused *
Are you or is any member of your family a member of the Armed Forces? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Do you consider yourself a NASCAR fan? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
How often do you attend church, mosque, synagogue or other place of worship? *
*More than once a week *
*About once a week *
*Once or twice a month *
*Only on religious holidays *
*Rarely *
*Never *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Would you consider yourself to be a member of the “investor class?” *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
How often do you shop at Wal-Mart? *
*Every week *
*A few times a month *
*A couple times a year *
*Never *
*Other *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Do you currently have a valid passport? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *
Which of the following best represents your household income last year before taxes? *
*Less than $25,000 *
*$25,000-34,999 *
*$35,000-49,999 *
*$50,000-74,999 *
*$75,000-$99,999 *
*$100,000 or more *
*Refused *
Are you male or female. *
*Male *
*Female *
*Refused *
Were you born in another country? *
*Yes *
*No *
*Not sure *
*Refused *

#470 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:19 pm

Subject: Guess Who I Am?

I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less
than two years in the governor’s office.

Did you guess?

I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900.

Hmmm, so Sarah Palin is not qualified but Obama is?
I don’t think so!

#471 bobram on 09.14.08 at 10:21 pm

Amazing tonight on 60 minutes – CBS interviewed Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia – they even dug us his grade school report cards – now why can’t they do that for Nobama – was he hatched from an egg or just evolved – it makes no sense that records can not be found anywhere on him.

#472 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 10:21 pm

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D-Del.phtml

Dances, could you please put this link for ‘The Green Papers’ – list of delegate allocations for each state, on the website if it isn’t already on…please.
————————————————————
Sure. The URL that teh guest recited was a dead link. Your’s is working. Thanks!

#473 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:22 pm

hillstheone – gotta go eat, but quicly skimmed garrison’s piece in the link you provided. here are a couple of things that jumped out at me at first glance. the excerpts from the article are in quotation marks. my commentary is below. don’t know if you want to work with any of that. if you do, make sure you reference quotes, writer, publication, etc in your letter.
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“And if you question her qualifications to be the leader of the free world, you are an elitist.”

And if you question Obama’s qualifications, you’re a racist.

“When you check the actuarial tables on a 72-year-old guy who’s had three bouts with cancer, you guess you may be looking at the first woman president, a hustling evangelical with ethics issues and a chip on her shoulder who, not counting Canada, has set foot outside the country once—a trip to Germany, Iraq and Kuwait in 2007 to visit Alaskans in the armed services. And who listed a refueling stop in Ireland as a fourth country visited. She’s like the Current Occupant but with big hair. If you want inexperience, there were better choices.”

Could anyone imagine replacing “hustling evangelical” with “religious Jew” for one example. Of course not! As for international experience, where was Obama’s? And, is the better choice for inexperience Obama?

#474 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:24 pm

# 469

OR

check the action center under blah blah category.

#475 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:24 pm

# 469

OR

check the action center under blah blah category.

#476 bythelake on 09.14.08 at 10:26 pm

#429 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 9:40 pm HELP WANTED :

#378 mick on 09.14.08 at 8:24 pm
#358 kat in your hat

Can you post the link where this “obama4 Ever” posted his comments. We must serve this up to the media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I-N5I

(comments on this video screen saved)

#477 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 10:26 pm

It’s been an observation of mine over the course of my lifetime, that usually the person accusing someone of being a racist is the one who really IS racist. They try to use somekind of perverse reverse psychology or something. Proof is how mad they get when you call them on it.

#478 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 10:27 pm

472 Anna7000

BillieJo was contributing a link… not asking for one.

#479 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:28 pm

hillstheone – one more quick thing. unfortunately, because palin is pretty much an unknown, mc cain took a huge chance because of course the press was going to vet her, but because the election is looming so close, there’s no room for error, no room to recover what whatever the press digs up on her. no way around that problem. BUT, you could go back and do a bit of research re: how well the press vetted obama (NOT) and compare what they doing now (which is, in fact, their job) to what they did not do with obama, where they fell down on the job. ok. gotta eat —

#480 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:28 pm

hillstheone – one more quick thing. unfortunately, because palin is pretty much an unknown, mc cain took a huge chance because of course the press was going to vet her, but because the election is looming so close, there’s no room for error, no room to recover what whatever the press digs up on her. no way around that problem. BUT, you could go back and do a bit of research re: how well the press vetted obama (NOT) and compare what they doing now (which is, in fact, their job) to what they did not do with obama, where they fell down on the job. ok. gotta eat —

#481 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:28 pm

#454 Cassie ,

Thank you for sharing your post. You are a good hearted puma.

#482 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 10:29 pm

dances – oh
476 477 – oops

#483 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:32 pm

texassherry
(((((I’m alive)))))
Thanks. For a while now I thought everyone wanted to ignore me. :P
How are you doing?

#484 LaureyPuma on 09.14.08 at 10:33 pm

PumaPal, YES! I am supposed to get in touch with you. I have been very busy at work and what my friends refer to as my “part time” job: Pumas – had to go on the back burner last week. I will contact you tomorrow.

Dances With Pumas, by Magnolia House do you mean the Puma Headquarters in Denver? If so, yes.

#485 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:35 pm

By the way, I went to your website and posted there too. No one was there either so I guess I was talking to myself here and there.:grin:

#486 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:37 pm

#480 Cassie,

Sorry I missed you. I have to step away from the computer once in awhile. I tried to call Prowland but no answer. Hopefully she went somewhere with electric so she can have air conditioning.

#487 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 10:39 pm

#473 bythelake -
Thanks for the link. Making a screen shot of the comments and sending it to media.

#488 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 10:39 pm

481 LaureyPuma
Dances With Pumas, by Magnolia House do you mean the Puma Headquarters in Denver? If so, yes.
———————————————————-
I meant ‘the hippie house”. Thoiught that was on Magnolia? Forever lost! I thought you spelled your name differently. Good to see you! I have you HRC tamborine.

#489 Luckyseven on 09.14.08 at 10:39 pm

Cassie – one addition to Teddy Roosevelt -
he was assistant secretary of the navy for one year from 1897 – 1898.

#490 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:40 pm

I thought we were supposed to sleep, eat and do personal business in front of the computer. Gross! Gypsy was here all day and night yesterday.

#491 LaureyPuma on 09.14.08 at 10:40 pm

#474, Alice – Yes it’s called Projection.

#492 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:41 pm

Luckyseven
I stole that from gretawire. Thanks for the info.

#493 LaureyPuma on 09.14.08 at 10:44 pm

Dances, take good care of them. I broke my maracas (sic?) in the march. I am also Laurey4Hill during the week.

I am used to my name being spelled a million different ways. I am thinking of just going with Laura. LOL

#494 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:45 pm

#489 Cassie,

Great article. I was talking to you at the other site until I figured out I was talking to myself :lol: I knew he was supporting McCain but never heard his views. He has a good head on his shoulders. Too bad most celebrities don’t.

#495 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 10:47 pm

Any late night prowl tonight ? When Murphy is catching zzz’s we can do our own late night prowl.

Anyone game to toss out any issues close to your heart ? I am ready and willing to prowl

#496 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:47 pm

I just caught up with you here. I’m tired from running all over.

#497 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:49 pm

#493 Cassie,

Ah Ha… I caught up with you :lol:

#498 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 10:53 pm

#469 DancesWithPumas
I know, it took me awhile to find it because she did not mention in the
D-Del there are Caps.
Thanks.

#499 Dem4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 10:54 pm

just came from multi-national corporation, Barnes and Noble where they had “inspirational 2009 Obama calendars” and “Obama’s plan for America” printed and published by “Obama for America”

#500 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 10:54 pm

LaureyPuma …feel free to contact me whenever you have the time. I am up to my eyebrows at work, so there are times I am not so responsive as I should be. Also, I don’t always check my personal email as regularly as I should. Bad PumaPal!

#501 goofsmom on 09.14.08 at 10:54 pm

Cassie

How are your folks doing after Ike. I saw on the news that people have no water and ice, were they well stocked up for supplies? Do they need anything? Do they still have power?

#502 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:54 pm

#492 freddiebrown,

I tried to set up a mass telephone calling prowl earlier with the website owner of high heels but never got an answer. She has some info that I needed to set it up. I will share the info if I ever get an answer.

#503 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:55 pm

Did you send out e-mails to the boycott list? My letters suck but I did get my message across.

#504 CTKEY on 09.14.08 at 10:56 pm

#496…BO Calendars !!! Heavens. Can you imagine looking at that for 365 days. Worse than those “Bushism” ones.

#505 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 10:57 pm

goofsman
Thanks for asking. They do not have power but they did stock up on alot of water. Do you live near there?

#506 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 10:57 pm

#492 freddiebrown I’m game

#507 Dem4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 10:58 pm

haha, I know #501 CTKEY:

It’s crazy….

#508 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 10:58 pm

#500 Cassie ,

No, I didn’t have a chance. I think it is Mass. that is voting in a couple of days and was trying to get some info.

#509 BillieJo on 09.14.08 at 10:59 pm

#476 Anna7000
You still have twin posts, what’s up with that? :lol:

#510 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 10:59 pm

#496 Dem4Hillary OMG you freaking kidding me , no way~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#511 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:00 pm

freddiebrown
We did one yesterday with boycotting The View and their advertisement.

#512 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 11:03 pm

495 BillieJo
I had thegreenpapaers link at the Action Center, and it takes you to the actual delegate count (17 delegate difference), then it shows the floor vote. I can barely look at it anymore. Makes me feel ill.
Your link is more targetted.

#513 Dem4Hillary on 09.14.08 at 11:03 pm

#597 slyt2:
I couldnt’ make this stuff up. In all fairness regarding “Obama’s plan for america” it is the same principle as John Kerry and the “Kerry/Edwards plan for America” which i bought a copy of in 2004 to read and try to relay to voters what in the hell the message was in 2004.

#514 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:03 pm

Do you need help? There are alot of people here who seem really anxious to do something.

#515 freddiebrown on 09.14.08 at 11:04 pm

We need one every night no ?
A late night prowl – that’s what PUMA’s do.
Since we can’t call , we can send emails… use the BCC!
Its easy.

We can make it simple, just copy and paste damning information… anything. The press does not necessarily know everything. PUMA’s on the other hand are so good at digging and sharing info.

#516 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:05 pm

#511 Cassie,

Are you talking to me or Freddie? :lol:

#517 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 11:05 pm

#508 Cassie what we did it yesterday, how did I miss that??? I remember friday writing the letters to view and I remember friday nite looking up their advertisers but when did we boycott the advertisers, how did I miss that :(

#518 VAKatforPalin on 09.14.08 at 11:05 pm

This is a snip from an “email” being floated from the BHO camp (supposedly)…has anyone seen it before?

“Finally, someone asked about the gorked-out kid. Until two/three weeks before she hatched it in April in the middle of the legislative session, no one knew that Sarah was pregnant. Those of you who have been pregnant can decide how odd that was. It was so odd that it provoked a swirl of speculation that the kid actually is Bristol’s, Sarah’s seventeen-year-old daughter. But those rumors went as quickly as they came. If the kid is Sarah’s, she told the press that she knew from the get-go that it was gorked-out with Down syndrome but, being a Bible-thumbing right-to-lifer, she decided that God wanted her to have it. That story, which as I type is ripping through the evangelical hard-right, will energize the Republican base to McCain’s advantage in a way that McCain never could have himself.”

Because I haven’t seen the actual email, I’m wondering if it’s “true” before I send a complaint to FoxNews… if it is, it’s disgraceful…why would ANYONE refer to a baby as “gorked-out”!

#519 LaureyPuma on 09.14.08 at 11:07 pm

Here is one for the late night prowl, Freddie Brown:

I have been bothering NOW and Emily’s list for a few days. I have been sending them emails voicing my displeasure at their goal of pursuading 6 million women to vote for Obama, using reproductive freedom as a weapon. They also have the audacity to refer to NoBo as “pro-women”. Please everyone, write them and give them your view on Bo’s pro-woman stance.

BTW, I also add a link to Marcia Pappas (of Now NYC) story entitled WOMEN WHO LOVE THEIR PARTY TOO MUCH.

#520 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:07 pm

Tx- I’m sorry I meant you.

slyt2- I’m sorry again too. I swear I don’t know what day it is anymore. I don’t think I left my computer. Took a shower her too.

#521 goofsmom on 09.14.08 at 11:08 pm

#502 Cassie

No, I’m not close. I have family in Ft. Worth and would have volunteered them to run some stuff down.

#522 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:10 pm

Do we have any Pumas from Mass. here? If so do you know anything about them having an election on Tues? From what I heard through the grapevine is that we need to promote an O’Reilly vote there. I tried to get more info today but was unable to get any. It sounds like something that we need to do right away.

#523 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:11 pm

Cassie,

Do you know anything about the Mass. vote? Is that where John Kerry is running for re election?

#524 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:12 pm

goofsman
That is very kind of you but no need to. I think they’ll do fine.

#525 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:13 pm

Cassie,

I got information from another puma by telephone but it was a bad connection and I couldn’t get all of the details.

#526 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:13 pm

texas
Yes. I’ll try to look up more info for you.

#527 Seattlegirl on 09.14.08 at 11:14 pm

#516 LaureyPuma Interesting, I doubt that Emily’s list and NOW oe MS magazine have 6 million women who will listen to them. I think they have pretty well discredited themselves when it comes to women’s issues. FYI I am on their mailing lists because I have given them money in the past and I am fed up with them and will not give them anything in the future. I am sure I am far from alone.

#528 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:14 pm

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Sponsor $2300, Patron $1000, Friend $500, Guest $250
To join the host committee or to RSVP, contactMelissa Midgett Melissa@kayhagan.com or (336) 617-5301 RSVP and contribute online at http://www.actblue.com/page/raleigh On the Ed O’Reilly – John Kerry contest: The Editorial Staff of the Boston Herald writes: “There is a reason 24-year-incumbent Sen. John Kerry has an opponent in this Tuesday’s Democratic primary, and frankly it has little to do with the war in Iraq and Kerry’s convoluted and frequently tortured stand on it.” “O’Reilly is an engaging populist with a down-home touch. … he has worked hard to build the kind of bridges with communities and local officials that Kerry has for too long neglected. When was the last time (or the first time) John Kerry attended the Leominster Stroll or visited a firehouse or a ham and bean supper in the Berkshires?We will say what so many people in Massachusetts have whispered for so very long: John Kerry needs to pay far more attention to the people who have sent him to Washington year after year than he has in the past. And if voters want to send him that message by casting a vote for Ed O’Reilly – well, we can’t disagree.”Please call Rebecca Kennedy at 617 924-2008 to make a contribution, do visibility, or work the polls on Tuesday.

#529 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:15 pm

#523 Cassie,

Thanks. If it is a chance to get Kerry out of office I would love to help if I can.

#530 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 11:16 pm

Im on for a prowl,I read in a post earlier that national enquire was going after palin children this week,maybe we can stop them before they start by a quick email?

#531 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:16 pm

Sorry. On down tix race post, didn’t seperate the Kay Hagan info from the Kerry/O’Reily race info. Sorry – it all blurs together…

#532 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:17 pm

On the Ed O’Reilly – John Kerry contest: The Editorial Staff of the Boston Herald writes: “There is a reason 24-year-incumbent Sen. John Kerry has an opponent in this Tuesday’s Democratic primary, and frankly it has little to do with the war in Iraq and Kerry’s convoluted and frequently tortured stand on it.” “O’Reilly is an engaging populist with a down-home touch. … he has worked hard to build the kind of bridges with communities and local officials that Kerry has for too long neglected. When was the last time (or the first time) John Kerry attended the Leominster Stroll or visited a firehouse or a ham and bean supper in the Berkshires?We will say what so many people in Massachusetts have whispered for so very long: John Kerry needs to pay far more attention to the people who have sent him to Washington year after year than he has in the past. And if voters want to send him that message by casting a vote for Ed O’Reilly – well, we can’t disagree.”

Please call Rebecca Kennedy at 617 924-2008 to make a contribution, do visibility, or work the polls on Tuesday.

#533 sandipuma on 09.14.08 at 11:17 pm

VAKatforPalin that is how they talk in there and even worse.

#534 Seattlegirl on 09.14.08 at 11:18 pm

I was listening to Meet the Press and they had mayor Gulianni on asking him about McCain/Palin. He said that the investigation against Palin in Alaska is far from non partisan because three Alaska congressmen who are devout BO followers are behind it and have vowed to take Palin down for their all great leader. So apparently the Republicans have this in their sights and are ready to pounce.

#535 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 11:18 pm

Is anyone else getting paranoid?
It just occured to me that we could all be being played somehow. I guess it doesn’t matter, really. I am doing what I would have done alone, at least ion terms of how I will probably be voting.
Okay. Just disregard this comment. :roll:
I’m tired.

#536 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:19 pm

#528 Anna7000,

Thanks for trying. I’m afraid by the time I get info it will be too late to do anything. I guess some states are having early elections but I don’t know where to find the information. It would be nice to get some of the corrupt leaders that are up for re election out of office such as Kerry, Reid, Pelosi, etc.

#537 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 11:20 pm

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/

#538 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 11:20 pm

#527 tennaseepuma On saw her on the cover of National Enquirer but didn’t have time to look through it but the cover said something about dark secrets or something.

#539 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:21 pm

#529 Anna7000 ,

Great!!! You found it. Anybody have any suggestions on how we can do a fast prowl on this tomorrow? Or do you think it is too late?

#540 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:24 pm

texassherry – what is it you have in mind to do?

#541 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 11:24 pm

To late…. http://www.nationalenquirer.com/_palin_family_shockers_what_sarahs_really_hiding/celebrity/65407

#542 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:27 pm

#537 Anna7000 ,

I’m not very good at thinking up prowls but I thought maybe we could email or call somebody to urge then to vote for O’reilly?

#543 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:29 pm

#537 Anna7000 ,,

I know that Murphy was talking about ways to get rid of some of these people. I wish I would have heard about this earlier but just heard it today.

#544 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 11:29 pm

538 tennaseepuma sadly you couldn’t stop that trash rag if you wanted to . Stars with nothing but money have tried to sue them stop things from being printed to no end. It doesn’t work these people print what they want and don’t care. I saw for 3 weeks straight made up stories about Hillary and some woman .. I read about BO and some girlfriend and Michelle found the love notes. It doesn’t stop and it won’t…

#545 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 11:29 pm

For anyone interested i read the article and it sounds like someone may be jealous of the Palin Kids. They cant come up with any thing about her so they are talking again about the two oldest in this article..to me teenagers are a rare breed. turn 18 and its party city. you might think they were the only kids to stretch their wings………imho

#546 antifish on 09.14.08 at 11:30 pm

This is on Bill Ayers blog site:

“The end of an empire is messy at best….
and this one is ending like all the rest.” Randy Newman

http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/the-end-of-an-empire-is-messy-at-best/

Another reason why we must stop Obama.

#547 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:30 pm

texassherry – you could always take the initiative to call the contact person listed in the post and see how people might be able to help who don’t live in MA. since it sounds like the election is this tuesday, i doubt there’s much to do, though they may be engaged in a last big phone push tomorrow. plus, i’m sure they’ll gladly accept donations. other than that, can’t imagine how else you could help, but those would be meaningful ways and the woman you speak to could tell you first hand.

#548 goofsmom on 09.14.08 at 11:30 pm

#538 tennaseepuma

The National enquirer is quoting highschool friends of Track and Bristol. What absolute and utter crap!!

Great sourcing by their reporters…

Another way to look at it is, well, this was the best they could turn up.

#549 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 11:31 pm

That is true Sly2.

#550 slyt2 on 09.14.08 at 11:31 pm

Ok well I’m gonna head to bed I guess, gotto get up at 5 so if you think of anything I will start it the minute I get up.Nite everyone..

#551 Bluejay on 09.14.08 at 11:31 pm

#526 texassherry

I’m sorry, what am I missing? Why is it that you want John Kerry out of office?

#552 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:32 pm

texassherry
J. Kerrr over 10 million raised
O’Reilly over 400,000

We should have done something earlier. I’m not saying we can’t try but it would be difficult.

#553 tennaseepuma on 09.14.08 at 11:32 pm

goofsmom I totally agree.

#554 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:34 pm

#544 Anna7000,

Thanks. I guess I will call tomorrow and ask. I don’t have any money and it is too late to have a fund drive but maybe something else to help. Wish I had a mass email list from Mass and I could send emails asking them to vote for O’reily.

#555 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 11:34 pm

texassherry
sorry, i was eating dinner

#556 PumaPal on 09.14.08 at 11:35 pm

“American Thinker” http://www.americanthinker.com

This is another very conservative magazine. I was looking for information about Obama time at Columbia and found an article that does not give answers but explains why the question needs to be asked.

I don’t know this magazine/website … Who is beind it, etc. … but if you have information about the what happened at the Democratic convention, I’ll bet that they would be interested.

I am simply not up to speed on the specifics as are a number of the Pumas … for the reasons I have stated in my previous posts, I am not a Democratic Party insider and not so familiar with how the convention worked.

#557 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:35 pm

cassie – your post is kind and heartbreaking. i think it’s safe to assume this grassroots movement is relatively small (in terms of active members), has precious few dollars and is spread incredibly thin. i wouldn’t spend too much time feeling regret. we’re just trying to cover way too many bases with very little resources and very little time.

#558 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:36 pm

#548 Bluejay,

He was one of the ones that was not supporting Hillary. I believe that Murphy wanted to replace those that were supporting Obama. I think he was one of those super delegates.

#559 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:38 pm

PumaPal – I stumbled upon American Thinker this year trying to save my sanity during the primaries. It’s an extremely conservative publication. I think there is some interest about what happened at the convention, though for the most part their agenda is more about Republican/conservative issues and not doing our dirty work for us. However, they have been very very very anti-Obama, not that they loved Clinton. But, for the most part, they were printing anti-Obama stuff on a daily basis all year, with just a little about Clinton. I am sometimes in contact with one of their regular writers and do pass information along to her that I think might aid her research, including stuff about caucus fraud, etc.

#560 Anna7000 on 09.14.08 at 11:38 pm

PumaPal – I stumbled upon American Thinker this year trying to save my sanity during the primaries. It’s an extremely conservative publication. I think there is some interest about what happened at the convention, though for the most part their agenda is more about Republican/conservative issues and not doing our dirty work for us. However, they have been very very very anti-Obama, not that they loved Clinton. But, for the most part, they were printing anti-Obama stuff on a daily basis all year, with just a little about Clinton. I am sometimes in contact with one of their regular writers and do pass information along to her that I think might aid her research, including stuff about caucus fraud, etc.

#561 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 11:39 pm

texassherry
i think my last email info was about a rally in dallas

#562 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:40 pm

#549 Cassie,

You are probably right. I have just been focusing on getting rid of Obama and haven’t been working on down ticket dems. I just thought if we could rid a couple of them then maybe it would scare the others and let them know we were serious.

#563 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:41 pm

#558 Blue Blue Gal ,

Yeah, I got that one too but never any details. That group must have broken up.

#564 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 11:41 pm

nite all
sweet puma dreams

#565 turndownobama on 09.14.08 at 11:42 pm

Millions of us will vote John McCain as a PROTEST against the DNC and the Obama Movement. Millions will vote 3rd Party or leave the top spot BLANK.

Guys, is BLANK really safe? The bots will probably be counting the votes. If it’s blank, they could fill it in as they want to. If it’s write-in, they might mess that up.

Imo the only really safe thing to do is vote for someone named on the ballot. Third party also sends a clearer message. I plan to vote Green to show that some liberals oppose Obama (unless my state is so close that McCain actually needs my vote).

#566 Blue Blue Gal on 09.14.08 at 11:44 pm

texassherry
perhaps, i don’t know if any are on here as we all use our blogging names, and the only puma who has acknowledged location out that way is lotusboy.
am signing off for real –
nite all

#567 turndownobama on 09.14.08 at 11:45 pm

Puma Pal,

As for Obama’s time at Columbia and other aspects of his early life, I have links to some very good profiles etc at http://www.ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground

#568 Always4Hil on 09.14.08 at 11:45 pm

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#569 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:47 pm

Anna7000
Wow! You sure know how to get your way around.

#570 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:47 pm

#561 Blue Blue Gal ,

Good nite.

#571 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:48 pm

texassherry
I was thinking the same. Even though what Anna said was true, I still feel guilty.

#572 Bluejay on 09.14.08 at 11:51 pm

Oh . . . thanks for the reply.

I believe that the Massachusetts state primary is this Tuesday, September 16.

#573 scarlet on 09.14.08 at 11:51 pm

TODAY’S EMAIL FROM OBAMA

Friend —

There’s so much at stake in this election — fixing our economy, solving the energy crisis, dealing with climate change, and restoring America’s position in the world.

You and I know that. But John McCain is trying to distract voters from the real issues. And he’s willing to take the low road by making cheap personal attacks and lying outright about Barack and his record.

It’s up to each of us to talk to voters across the country and make sure they know what this election is really about.

We have an exciting new tool called Neighbor to Neighbor that makes it easy to talk to potential supporters about Barack and the issues that matter.

Help get the conversation back on track today by making phone calls.

Nothing is more powerful than having undecided voters hear from ordinary people. And right now, that’s needed more than ever.

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With less than eight weeks until Election Day, we can’t allow voters to lose focus on the big issues and get swept up by the smears and lies coming out of the McCain campaign.

Reach out to fellow voters now and grow this movement for change:

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Thanks,

Jon

Jon Carson
National Field Director
Obama for America

#574 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:52 pm

#568 Cassie,

Since I heard about this from another puma site I will look at some other sites tomorrow and see if someone is doing anything on this and if we can help. I wish all of the pumas had a central location on the internet with information about what everyone was doing so we could work together but I guess that would make it easier for bots too.

#575 Cassie on 09.14.08 at 11:53 pm

I had wondered about that too. Why not have everyone in one place but I guess you are right. If you get any info, let me know.

#576 goofsmom on 09.14.08 at 11:55 pm

Sorry if this video has been posted already. Goofsdad found it on Riverdaughters site.

It’s worth watching again!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ajJYkMd74&eurl

#577 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:56 pm

#569 Bluejay,

Thanks. I guess I will search other puma sites and see if anyone is working on this. Murphy was talking about this a while back and I have heard pumas from other sites talking about it but I am not sure what to do outside of the Nov. vote. Murphy was talking about replacing democrats with other democrats but that would have to be done at the primary stage I think.

#578 texassherry on 09.14.08 at 11:59 pm

#572 Cassie,

Will keep you informed if I find anything. My head is hurting from too much thinking today. I am going to go back to the other site until bedtime.

Good nite y’all. Sweet dreams.

#579 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:00 am

RE: CONVERSATION ABOUT DOWN TIX

I think that to change the party, two basic things have to happen:

1. Boot out those in power who are corrupt.

2. Elect others to office who seem like they will operate more in accordance with your values. (For some, that means working within the party to make changes.)

It’s a long, slow process and isn’t something that happens overnight. It will take work over the long haul. Perhaps there will even be some PUMAs who will decide to jump in, run for school board, city council, etc.

Meanwhile, we just have to prioritize for this upcoming election and go from there.

My 2 cents.

#580 Godzilla on 09.15.08 at 12:04 am

Here’s an article from Alaska’s Juneaue Empire Newspaper in which Stevens, a republican senator up for reelection, expects Palin to help in Novemeber, “unless something unforseen happens”. Since he is obviously aware of TaserGate, this is a good indicator that its impact on the election is being discounted. This is good news.

#581 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 12:05 am

#570 scarlet on 09.14.08 at 11:51 pm
TODAY’S EMAIL FROM OBAMA

**** Scarlet **** I’ve never been to Obama’s website but I will register just to see what material we can use.

As you all know, Obama’s campaign is very focused on grassroots – one on one talking to your neighbor. Come to think of it, it sounds very much like our prowls… don’t you guys think ?

“This campaign is built on the belief that everyday Americans, when organized and focused, can change their country.

When you log in you’ll see that we’ve prepared all the resources that you need, including:

A list of voters in your neighborhood who we need to reach out to
A script you can use in your conversations
A customized flyer you can distribute
Easy interfaces to report back the results of your efforts to the campaign
Support and training to answer any questions along the way”

#582 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:09 am

godzilla..
the polls are a good barometer as to the effectiveness of the pailn smear campaign..
if mccain can sustain or increase his lead it will show that obamas slimers are not convincing the american people..that they dont believe the lies..

#583 scarlettpuma on 09.15.08 at 12:13 am

Pumas: I just got through watching some more ads on tv where they have made up Sarah Palin. I am so tired of them doing her that way! I think since they are female bashing her, someone needs to make up an ad about Michelle Nobama and let the Nobama campaign see how it feels! What’s fair for one campaign is fair for the other!!

#584 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:14 am

people that like governor palin after seeing her and knowing her better will reject the slimers..her job is to get people to like her and I think shes so attractive and authentic that most people will like her

#585 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:16 am

scarlettpuma – in all fairness, palin is running for vp. michelle obama is the spouse of a candidate. in any case, how about taking notes when you watch and then contacting the station and pointing out your concerns? you might also get involved with the women’s media center. they track how women are portrayed in the media and speak out against sexism (though i felt they could have been more vocal regarding clinton’s treatment).

#586 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:16 am

scarlettpuma – in all fairness, palin is running for vp. michelle obama is the spouse of a candidate. in any case, how about taking notes when you watch and then contacting the station and pointing out your concerns? you might also get involved with the women’s media center. they track how women are portrayed in the media and speak out against sexism (though i felt they could have been more vocal regarding clinton’s treatment).

#587 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:17 am

scarlett..the obama people understand the incredible power of sexism in our country..their task is to bring out the worst in people in order to destroy this woman..its very negative and evil

#588 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:17 am

Evening all, Had a nice debate in the middle of my store today with a member of operation Chaos.
Made the mistake of saying if it wasn’t for them Hillary would not have won what she did.
There was a “O’ supporter listening in.
Oh the sparks did fly. :)
I decided after last time I was on here to be more vocal. Profits be damned

#589 Seattlegirl on 09.15.08 at 12:18 am

#562 turndownobama I agree leaving the top of the ballot blank is not safe and especially if you live in Washington State where dead people vote and however many votes are need to put Democrats in office magically appear in the Seattle court house basement weeks after the election in sealed ballot boxes. You must vote and you must punch something besides BO on your ballot. I’m voting McCAin but Nader is a good guy or I am sure there are others. BUT DON’T LEAVE IT BLANK IN THE PRESIDENT LINE.

#590 hillstheone on 09.15.08 at 12:21 am

#340 Missy,
I think you are on to something, contact the Talking Heads in the Republican Party, yee-haw!!!

Or should I say, ROARl!!!

#591 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 12:22 am

godzilla
I doubt Sara Palin will endorse Stevens. He was the one who wanted the bridge to nowhere. He’s very corrupt and was recently charged of it a few months ago.

#592 Godzilla on 09.15.08 at 12:23 am

Here’s something that won’t be mentioned in the MSM:

Job Approval for Gov. Palin: 86%
Among Independents: 86%
Among Democrats: 75%

Source: American Viewpoint Poll

#593 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:23 am

I’ve been looking at the pols. Does anyone else think its strange we keep having these wide swings?

#594 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 12:23 am

I just got this from a group that is attacking McCain. There is a method to their Palin Bashing. They intend to bash her until she has no credibility, and follow through with an attack on McCain for his age and health. Please be aware that this is the planned one-two punch.

Just look at this:

1. Watch the video
2. Sign the open letter

Dear Henerietta,

The state of John McCain’s health is an issue of grave concern for all Americans, regardless of political persuasion. Given the fact that he has been treated for an invasive melanoma and other maladies, it is important that he release his full health records.

For a very brief three hours in May, McCain released 1,173 pages of his medical records to a carefully selected group of reporters. They were not allowed to make any copies or phone calls. Why such secrecy?

We have enlisted a group of doctors from around the country to lead the effort to make sure the public is able to see and make judgments for themselves. Secrecy is not of service to our democracy, transparency is. Please have other doctors sign the open letter.

Watch the video and sign the open letter.

Cancer is a serious issue. That’s why 30 medical doctors have already signed our open letter telling McCain to issue a full, public disclosure of all his medical records. Send this video far and wide to request that McCain release his full health records. Ask every medical doctor you know to sign onto the letter, and don’t forget to sign the letter yourself! McCain’s records must be made public and soon.

While McCain doesn’t really care about our health care, we all should care about the health of McCain.

Yours,
Robert Greenwald
and everyone at Brave New Films


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#595 hillstheone on 09.15.08 at 12:23 am

Flasunshiner,
You around tonight?

#596 scarlettpuma on 09.15.08 at 12:24 am

I just feel for the children of Sarah, I hope they aren’t seeing any of this! I don’t want any of this to affect them. I wish it could be stopped in some way!

#597 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:24 am

polls*

#598 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:26 am

591 Henerietta,
Seems we shuld counter wiht demanding ALL of “O”s records be made public. Transparency, thats the ticket.

#599 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:26 am

yeesh I really need to proof those posts. lol

#600 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:27 am

snowtiger – what wide swings? to me, the polls look pretty tight, with predicted movement around the conventions.

#601 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:27 am

henrietta… thats the obama game plan- to keep hammering on governor palin with non stop volleys of disinformation and lies to discredit her..
goebbbels..hitlers chief propoganda minister once said..”tell a lie long enough and keep repeating it and eventually people will beileve you”
thats what this obama smear campaign is all about

#602 goofsmom on 09.15.08 at 12:28 am

#590 snowtiger

goofsdad said that the difference in the poll numbers maybe if they polled the registered voters or likely voters.

Likely voters means they voted in the last election and registered means well, they are registered not whether or not they voted.

This makes a big difference in the true outcome of an election.

Don’t know if that helped or if you already knew that. Just my 2 cents.

#603 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 12:28 am

#585 snowtiger
Tell me. Tell me. :D What exactly did happen?

I thought the polls have been pretty steady. Alot of the swing states seems to be going towards JM.

#604 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:28 am

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/Interactive-Graph-Follow-General-Election.aspx
These swings Anna. Seems kinda strange to me that so many people can be undecided and move back and forth.

#605 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 12:30 am

I think the McCain campaign needs to know this is happening. Maybe we should contact them. Of course they may already know.

I, too, would like to see Obama’s records. Most particularly, I would like to see a drug screen, including a hair sample, to see if he is a cocaine user. Maybe that would be the appropriate response to this?

#606 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:31 am

Out of respect for the millions who died at the hands of Hitler, I think it prudent to take care how his name is thrown around. I know concentration camp survivors. Most do not support Obama, nor do they feel comparisons to Hitler are reasonable. It only reveals a lack of true awareness of what Hitler did to toss his name out in a provocative fashion. Take care.

No need to invoke his name anyway, since the nature of politics has always involved lying. Both parties do it. Candidates do it. It may not be right, but it’s become part and parcel of how it works.

#607 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:31 am

Out of respect for the millions who died at the hands of Hitler, I think it prudent to take care how his name is thrown around. I know concentration camp survivors. Most do not support Obama, nor do they feel comparisons to Hitler are reasonable. It only reveals a lack of true awareness of what Hitler did to toss his name out in a provocative fashion. Take care.

No need to invoke his name anyway, since the nature of politics has always involved lying. Both parties do it. Candidates do it. It may not be right, but it’s become part and parcel of how it works.

#608 hillstheone on 09.15.08 at 12:32 am

#533 DancesWithPumas on 09.14.08 at 11:18 pm
“Is anyone else getting paranoid?
It just occured to me that we could all be being played somehow,”

Hi Dances,
Well yeah of course. We’re getting played by KARL ROVE because he helped the DNC put Obama in the game instead of Hillary.

But our bigger betrayal by far was done to us not by the GOP but by our OWN Party.

That is why this election calls for more showers than ever – everywhere we turn there is toxic corruption we need to continually wash it off our PUMA fur.

But our own Party’s principles are not being upheld. We are staring down the enemy (DNC) PUMA style, and while we may be outnumbered remember one PUMA can take down a lot of enemies…

No wonder y(our) tired.

#609 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 12:33 am

I see how they understand the voter: We can tolerate them picking on a woman, after all if she cries foul, they call her a whiner and say she wants special treatment. But attack O and you are racist, after all, there is not one possible reason you would attack such a perfect person on substance, is there? So it has to be racism.

#610 MKfromLA on 09.15.08 at 12:34 am

Hello all –

Regarding NObama’s $66mil – this piece from a UK newspaper implies that he’s actually running low on money

“team Obama are lagging behind with some insiders stating the party has just $13m in the bank compared to an estimated Republican war chest of $100m.”

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/world/It39s-time-for-some-fighting.4490026.jp

#611 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:34 am

henerietta.. i cant believe the mccain campaign will just sit by idly and let obama run away with the election by smearing palin.surely thay have a plan to fight back..
I have the feeling they have some ammuntition of their own but are holding thier fire until the right time comes..

#612 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 12:34 am

#370 jamesinseattle on 09.14.08 at 8:14 pm

I am with you 100%. What I find troubling some people say they would leave the top blank, for me, that is defeatism; don’t want to take responsibility, non-committal, fence sitter. That doesn’t bode well if changing the system is the main objective. Hillary was my first choice, she’s a brilliant woman and a policy wonk, she knows how to solve the problems of our country. What I find attractive about Hillary and why I support her, her mind is something to behold, her devotion for the common good and not afraid to voice out her opinion even when the State Department told her not to say anything about Human Rights when she was in Beijing. My vote will go to McCain, at least with McCain I know what I am getting into, a plus on his side, his VP is also like him a reformist, a maverick. Washington is corrupt to the bone, billions of dollars annually in wasteful spending. If we allow these people to do our household monthly budget, we would be heavily in debt.

#613 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:35 am

600 Cassie
sheesh Cassie, This republican started in on Hillary for no real reason I could fathom. Saying she was essentially a has been now. That started it it. I started in as to how she won more popular votes and countered with operation chaos which he was a part of, I laughed and said it was the only time Rush did something good for the country, getting votes for Hillary and we took off from there.
I went inot the mistreatment, Hillarys accomplishments, the corruption in the odnc etc. He went on about how Hillary was only a senator cause of Bill and his cigar etc. Got pretty heated.
An “o’ supporter just looked at us, particularly when I mentioned PUMA and shook her head as she walked out of my store.
A the end though we wished each other luck in our pursuits.

#614 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 12:37 am

We need to start a prowl on Obama’s whereabouts from 1985 to 1988. Some researchers think he may have been out of the country during that time, or even in some drug rehab place. According to Andy Martin, a journalist from the Chicago area, he can find no address or other evidence of Obama’s hereabouts during that time. Does anyone have that information?

#615 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:38 am

snowtiger – no way to know if the swings you see on the graph are normal or unusual without comparing the graph to prior elections.

#616 Anna7000 on 09.15.08 at 12:38 am

‘night all.

#617 GoHillaryGo on 09.15.08 at 12:40 am

#474 Alice1943 on 09.14.08 at 10:26 pm It’s been an observation of mine over the course of my lifetime, that usually the person accusing someone of being a racist is the one who really IS racist. They try to use somekind of perverse reverse psychology or something. Proof is how mad they get when you call them on it.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is a well known Spiritual Truth. It is a projection of inner guilt out onto another person. The person projecting out his inner guilt usually believes the other person is guilty and they are innocent. It is done to try to smooth over the inner guilt by finding guilt in another person. But once we accept that we are all ONE. then obviously we are only looking at ourself. And guilt of another must be guilt of the self because we are ONE with the other.

The problem is solved when we completely let go of the ego. The first step in healing our inner self of this problem is to realize that the other person did not do what it is that I think he did. Therefore forgiveness is so complete because there is nothing to forgive since he did not do what it is that I thought he did.

This is always true.

It is impossible to judge another person because we are always judging ourself. Once we accept that then we can no longer accept anyone juding ourself. Because as the other criticizes us we hear him judging himself. It is really very revealing.

When Obambie attacks Palin or anyone else he is attacking himself and telling the world what he personally feels guilty about in himself. Very revealing.

I highly recommend that you accept that your judgement of others is simply judgement of your self and then you will have a spiritual awakening that others peoples judgement of you is simply a revelation of the attackers inner self and has nothing to do with the person attacked who in this case is ourself.

It is great freedom when you reach the state that no one can judge you. IMPOSSIBLE.

#618 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:40 am

#599 goofsmom
OH the polls will change the closer we get to the election as the emphasis shifts from “voters” to “likely to vote’. that much I knew.
I just have an odd feeling about the “undecided” that must be answering one way today and another tomorrow. Maybe I’m just getting paranoid.

#619 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:41 am

Night Anna. :)

#620 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 12:42 am

I agree, they surely know that the Obamaites will attack Palin with everything they have. I think this is why McCain was so smart in waiting to the last minute. Of course, Obama kind of forced him to do that, because Obama didn’t announce his running mate until the last minute either. But Palin’s name was kept entirely secret for so long, in an attempt to not have her ‘Hillaried’ by the Obamites and the msm, if there is even a difference in the two (o&msm).

#621 Godzilla on 09.15.08 at 12:42 am

It was interesting reading your September 3rd liveblogging post of Sarah Palin’s convention speech. That must seem like a long time ago now, but I was curious as to what effect it had on all the members here. I had been so apolitical prior to August 29 that I didn’t even know what a PUMA was. I didn’t watch any of the DNC convention, and wasn’t expecting to watch GOP convention either. Hadn’t watched any of the debates, either party. Sarah Palin changed that in a heartbeat. It’s funny, but people have a hard time explaining why they like her. Dozen’s of times you hear, “She just so real. She’s like me.” and so on. Personally, I attribute this to a failure of philosophy and the demise of a “classical liberal” education. The qualities that Sarah Palin embodies have never been defined absolutely: Beauty, Virtue, Goodness. Socrates tried, Plato tried, but they failed. We still can’t define these concepts absolutely, but we can recognize them when we see them demonstrated. I trully don’t know how a woman like Sarah Palin can even be. Not in this day and age. I’m in awe.

Needless to say, I’m no longer apolitical LOL!

#622 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:42 am

snow..one thing ive noticed about obama supporters..thay have a snottty holier than thou attitude about supporting obama..
i think there is so much white guilt going on there the BS is piled high with hypocrisy and phony sanctimonius breast beating..”look at me im so good and righteous now..im voting for a black man”

#623 hillstheone on 09.15.08 at 12:43 am

Off-topic
I just know there are some busy moms lurking tonight, just wanted to share that I rarely eat meat but love to cook and sometimes do make a nice pulled pork dish in the crockpot.

Texassherry, you online tonight, haha!
Anyway, it’s easy to make, look for McCormicks pulled pork recipe on the back of the spice packet. Makes great pulled pork sandwiches for the baby puma’s, serve with a nice salad and dinner is done.

OK now everyone hates me I’m outta here! Just call it my irreverent post for the week.

#624 MKfromLA on 09.15.08 at 12:44 am

Several days back there was a prowl to become an election observer. I found these links

Election Observer handbook
http://www.shapethefuture.org/documents/Election-Observer-Handbook.pdf

California Election Observer Rules
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/eop.htm

Nominating persons to be observers
http://www.lavote.net/VOTER/PDFS/06032008/Election_Observer_Request.pdf

It appears in California that to be an observer you have to be nominated by some organization like the League of Woman Voters or Dem Party?

HELP? Does anyone know how to get on the list if not a member of one groups? (I tried calling the various official agencies; they didn’t know what I was talking about)

#625 hillstheone on 09.15.08 at 12:45 am

#620 osakapuma, Right on! I totally concur, there is nothing they enjoy more than sticking their noses up at us. And you’re right, it’s so phony!

#626 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 12:46 am

snowtiger
thanks for the story. curiosity didn’t kill the cat.

#627 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 12:47 am

614 GoHillaryGo

When I was a child, my mom taught me that to accuse someone without good cause would always indicate what my darkest thoughts were. To say that someone intended some result or was motivated by some bad thought or plan, was to see what you might do in a similar situation. Thoughts are private, to suggest, without some strong evidence that someone is racist, or jealous, or some other motivator, is a reflection fo the accuser as much or more than the accused.

Mom called it measuring another person’s corn in your half bushel.

#628 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:49 am

619 osaka puma
Osaka you may be right. I wouldn’t know. All the people I know have no white guilt but, none are racists either.
I think “white guilt” gooes with Gohillsrygo s post above.
I was a t my friends wedding last week. He, anglo saxon , she Fillipina/black (funny thing she was born o military base in Japan. I told her that she had a typical Japanese ancestory :) ) and no one there was a fan of “o”s. Well maybe a couple.
This whole “white guilt” thing has always amazed me.

#629 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 12:49 am

Asian4Hill – Where U been ? I thought you left long ago. I had to work for most of the day.

You are so right. We must check off something for the Presidential Box. Leaving it blank is just like Obama voting “Present”. Not only is it lame, it is ripe for fraud.
Is this like No Brainer 101 ?

#630 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:49 am

623 Cassie
Lol. But it made a PUMA bite a republican.

#631 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:51 am

#623 Cassie
You know smehting cassie? Re reading my response I think the repubs are STILL scared of Hillary.

#632 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 12:53 am

hills..
the obamas have so much anti american and racist crap to hide..it would be the “heist of the century” if they pull this election off without ever showing the american people who they really are,what they really think and what they really stand for.

#633 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:55 am

#622 hillstheone
well hills, keep this in mind. As I once told a particularly vile piece of crap. “Put yourself as far above me as you like. Just remember that sharks attack from below.”

#634 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 12:56 am

snowtiger, you know what? I agree. I haven’t said it to any one before but they will not mention anything about Nobama’s birth certificate. Why would they be hurting themselves. Hillary is the stronger candidate.

#635 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 12:58 am

#631 Cassie
Could it be that they , the republicans, are holding back to prevent an 11th hour switch to Hillary?

#636 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 12:59 am

Please read this below and click on the link to register.
You can enter any information and put in a fake zip code. (I did and it went through) You will get a list of names RESERVED for you to call. No one else will get this list. We need to do sneaky stuff to prevent Obama’s minions from brainwashing more people. If every one of us did this, there will be less people brainedwashed. Then come back and brag..
Will some PUMA on the East coast re-post this early again ?

TODAY’S EMAIL FROM OBAMA

Friend —

There’s so much at stake in this election — fixing our economy, solving the energy crisis, dealing with climate change, and restoring America’s position in the world.

You and I know that. But John McCain is trying to distract voters from the real issues. And he’s willing to take the low road by making cheap personal attacks and lying outright about Barack and his record.

It’s up to each of us to talk to voters across the country and make sure they know what this election is really about.

We have an exciting new tool called Neighbor to Neighbor that makes it easy to talk to potential supporters about Barack and the issues that matter.

Help get the conversation back on track today by making phone calls.

Nothing is more powerful than having undecided voters hear from ordinary people. And right now, that’s needed more than ever.

No prior experience is required. Neighbor to Neighbor gives you a list of potential supporters, suggested topics to talk about, and an easy way to report back on who you’ve contacted.

Reach out to fellow voters now and grow this movement for change:

http://my.barackobama.com/n2n

#637 DancesWithPumas on 09.15.08 at 1:00 am

621 MKfromLA
I’m placing your links in teh Action Center in the Elections category.
Thank you!

#638 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 1:00 am

Yes. Just think about it. Would you rather run against a guy you have a really good chance of beating or someone who has a very good chance of beating you?

#639 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 1:03 am

#635 Cassie
It seems so Machivellian.
Lol
Politicians. I forgot. :)

#640 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:04 am

cassie.. as much as i have despised karl rove in the past…no one can accuse the man of being stupid..
you can be assured that there are many clever and intelligent advisors that the mccain camp has maybe even including karl rove himself..who have a game plan..
these people are tough competitors and so far have shown they know what they are doing..
its all about timing and i have the feeling they are waiting until the right time to put their plan in action

#641 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:06 am

#626 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 12:49 am Asian4Hill – Where U been ? I thought you left long ago. I had to work for most of the day.

You are so right. We must check off something for the Presidential Box. Leaving it blank is just like Obama voting “Present”. Not only is it lame, it is ripe for fraud.
Is this like No Brainer 101 ?

======

Well said girlfriend! That’s what I’ve been saying earlier over blogtalkradio!

#642 snowtiger on 09.15.08 at 1:07 am

Well. I only planned on lurking. (snort). Been up since 4 am and its tim efor this kitty to get some rest. So good night all. :)
Have fun and “constant vigilance.”
Thats a quote form a book and movie. A cookie to the first person to name them.
Good night all. :)

#643 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:11 am

Freddiebrown

I can’t get my head around it when some people say they’d leave the top blank. To me that is flirting with disaster, it shows lack of conviction. When you’re in the trenches (that’s how I look at us against corrupt DNC and Democratic Party), there’s no such thing as “grey area”, either you’re all in or all out.

We have a saying in Alaska for mushers (Iditarod); “Either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.:lol:

#644 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 1:12 am

osaka puma
I don’t believe Karl Rove is helping the McCain camp out. I heard that McCain was really angry when Rove gave a call to Jo Lieberman to turn down VP. But I agree that they are not stupid and that something will come out soon.

#645 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:13 am

asian4..
you can go crazy trying to understand people..
i learned that a long time ago.. :)

#646 MKfromLA on 09.15.08 at 1:13 am

634 Thanks. If I learn how to be designated a Calif observer I will email to the action center.

My concern is this: what can we expect from BO having the power of the executive branch , given his organization’s fraud & intimidation, his willingness to buy friends and obliterate legitimate opposition, magnified by the complete lack of pushback from the MSM.

#647 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:15 am

cassie.. karl rove is a scoundrel no doubt..but on the other hand he was right to persuade lieberman to turn down VP.. :lol:

#648 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:15 am

#642 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:13 am asian4..
you can go crazy trying to understand people..
i learned that a long time ago..

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I know what you mean, kinda irritating though. Here we are taking this very seriously, and there are others out there playing freaking footsy! :lol:

#649 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:17 am

asian4..
why cant people be perfect like us goddamn it!!!
:lol:

#650 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 1:18 am

osaka puma
good point. :lol:

#651 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:19 am

#646 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:17 am asian4..
why cant people be perfect like us goddamn it!!!

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Not perfect, but at least have some freaking conviction!!! :lol:

#652 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:19 am

Is anyone still on the blog

#653 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:20 am

Hello……………anyone out there?

#654 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:24 am

Well, I guess I am alone so will post this web link to the East Coasters gang to read this.

Hillary, Biden VP Switch Imminent

Let me share some info with you that i have gotten from excellent sources within the DNC:
On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to occur after the VP debate on 10/2.

http://camp2008victorya.blogspot.com/

#655 goofsmom on 09.15.08 at 1:24 am

hey billiejo

#656 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:26 am

hi billi joe.. what do you think about that switch?
you think theres something to that?

#657 goofsmom on 09.15.08 at 1:28 am

#651 Billiejo

How accurate has the info been on this blog before? Just curious, I have never read this blog and maybe you have some insight

#658 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:30 am

billi jo..i like what carolyn has to say about us being proactive in turning this thing around to blunt obama manipulation and discredit him..good idea

#659 goofsmom on 09.15.08 at 1:31 am

#651 Billiejo

I mean the blog you gave the link to.

#660 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:34 am

billi jo..you still there?

#661 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:35 am

Oh God, I’m not alone. This happens to me every time I am searching, find something and have no one to share it with.

I am reading it, and folks………………… I am leaning towards thinking the info could be real. Please read and let me know what you think by what is written.

Will they go though with it, we will have to see.

#662 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:37 am

#654 goofsmom on 09.15.08 at 1:28 am

#651 Billiejo

How accurate has the info been on this blog before? Just curious, I have never read this blog and maybe you have some insight
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I don’t know anything about this site, searching info about Hillary that is recent, one site let to another and then I found this one. (I am still reading, will be back in a couple of minutes)

#663 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:38 am

billi jo..thats incredible news…
maybe we can frame this obama manipulation to get hillary on board as an ADMISSION of his failure and poor judgement..also portray it for what it is.. obama throwing another friend under the bus!!

#664 CyberFerret52 on 09.15.08 at 1:39 am

#33 girlsrule I know it was a long time ago that you posted but, in case you are lurking…welcome! It sounds like we are on the same page and you are right, it’s not about party this year it’s PEOPLE for this country and its democracy. Glad to have you.

#665 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:41 am

billi jo..maybe that obama meeting with bill is connected to this information..

#666 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:41 am

Read this……….

Thus, they despise Sarah Palin because she threatens their livelihoods. So, look for a growing number of calls for Obama to: (1) “get tougher” — to sling more mud and be more negative than he already is; (2) get rid of Biden and replace him with Senator Clinton (or perhaps even someone else).

I hope all the thousands of bloggers and other onliners who are supporting McCain-Palin will highlight the “Hillary” story. That’s exactly what Obama, Axelrod, Brazille, and Dean don’t want you to do. Continued discussion will shed light on developments the Obama Campaign would rather spring on Americans at the last moment. Note: If you start hearing more stories, as we did last week, of Senator Biden’s “health issues” (in actuality, he really doesn’t have any), you will know the time is drawing nigh for Joe to exit Left.

#667 Pookie on 09.15.08 at 1:43 am

If Hillary let’s the DNC and Nobama do this to her then I hope all these people that detest her so much all go over to John McCain I have never in all my life seen such garbage as this campaign they will stop at nothing to get control. I still won’t vote for this unqualified, inexperienced , boy scout.

#668 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:46 am

#664 Pookie on 09.15.08 at 1:43 am If Hillary let’s the DNC and Nobama do this to her then I hope all these people that detest her so much all go over to John McCain I have never in all my life seen such garbage as this campaign they will stop at nothing to get control. I still won’t vote for this unqualified, inexperienced , boy scout.

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Even if they put Hillary at the last minute as VP of NObama, I will not vote for him! NObama and DNC are definitely playing with the American people, they’re treating voters like a bunch of kids in nursery school.

#669 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:47 am

#662 osaka puma

billi jo..maybe that obama meeting with bill is connected to this information..
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This is what makes this all make sense for me, when I watched the tape of Bill with asshole, Bill looked like he was trying to hide a big smile and he certainly wasn’t mad. He only glanced at the jerk once and it was apparent Bill was in control not Obie.

I have also heard that down ticket dems are really freaked out that they will be out of a job if the One does not win, the money is not rolling in, obie is freaking. I am sure obie would not ask Hillary unless he was really sure he can’t win without her. Maybe they are putting off making this switch (if it’s true) until Oct 5th to see if obie goes up in the polls. We can watch to see the polls and obie should start unraveling around Oct 1st if the polls for him are still below McPalin’s.

#670 goofsmom on 09.15.08 at 1:48 am

#659 Billiejo

if it is factual, the only reason “O” would bring Hillary on the ticket would be because he is desparate. I hope she won’t take it as he would take her down with him if he losses.

#671 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:49 am

BTW, I find that quite insulting to the intelligence of EVERY voters. I hope Hillary will not allow herself to be use by DNC and NObama like a kitchen rag that can be thrown in the corner anytime NObama pleases and pick up again and put to work!

I swear! If Hillary do this, I will send a letter to her campaign office to REFUND my campaign contribution in full, I’ll tell my friends who contributed to her campaign to do the same.

#672 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:50 am

billi jo..
we need to do what the author suggests..talk about this story and spread it around publicly to as many places as is possible..

#673 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:51 am

I just straight up miss Hillary

#674 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:51 am

#660 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:38 am

billi jo..thats incredible news…
maybe we can frame this obama manipulation to get hillary on board as an ADMISSION of his failure and poor judgement..also portray it for what it is.. obama throwing another friend under the bus!!
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Here’s another thought I have had on this situation, the Biden, his son and Larry Sinclair situation. I read something somewhere that obie’s offering Biden the VP job was pay-back for making Larry ‘go away’. Maybe Biden himself doesn’t like being offered VP on a dirty deal. Maybe that’s why he said the nice things about Hillary, maybe that is what he really wants?

#675 Pookie on 09.15.08 at 1:52 am

666Billiejo they have made a mockery of our constitution so they might as well kick Joe out and do what they want our laws mean nothing to them they are so in the hole since McCain chose Palin they are grasping at straws I sure hope Hillary has the intestinal fortitude to say NO! I do not like to be this angry but I am

#676 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:53 am

I had this dream the other night that I had been sent DNC credentials but I didn’t know it until I got back in town. I woke up screaming at my party chairman saying “you knew I was out of town, why didn’t you call me” “I would have stood on the floor until she was the nominee”

God I was pissed all day and it wasn’t even real.

Damn, this election.

#677 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:53 am

God I pray Hillary doesn’t get into obamas game..

#678 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 1:54 am

It looks like it could be a rumor,but then again there are always surprises in october….any thing is possible,but I will not put Obama in the white house with anyone……

#679 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:55 am

Osaka:
good grief, who knows. I’m so confused over all of the crap. I’m soo disappointed that this is the outcome after 8 years of the B.s.

#680 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:56 am

dem4.. i’ve been pissed off since the primaries..
:lol:

#681 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:57 am

my god, if H ends up on the ticket, I personally will be picketing up one side of the local Obama headquarters and down the other side.

#682 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:58 am

If this happens, if…………. I will not blame Hillary. I will blame the DNC and Obama. If it happens, everyone will see how very, very weak Obama really is. He couldn’t win this on his own.
Another thing to remember, if this is true and obie was talking to the Big Dog, you KNOW Bill would make sure the deal was for more for Hillary than just a symbolic VP spot. They would have obie by the ‘ears’ and would be asking for much more for Hillary. Queen of Universal Health Care, or possibly something powerful and not VP at all, possibly something like Sec of State?

#683 Pookie on 09.15.08 at 1:58 am

well I have taken a muscle relaxer for my back and I feel stoned so I better sign off

#684 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:59 am

How much money NOBAMA received from Lehman Brothers through his bundlers?

#685 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:59 am

#669 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:50 am

billi jo..
we need to do what the author suggests..talk about this story and spread it around publicly to as many places as is possible..
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I agree, no text message from obie on this one.

#686 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 1:59 am

osaka why would we want to blog it all over the place?

#687 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 1:59 am

watch the main stream media come out with all kinds of phony tear jerker stories about poor ole joe biden having some terrible health problems..

#688 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 1:59 am

I also know if obie pulls this off, any young people will not vote for him.

#689 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 2:01 am

tennasee..read the blog that billi jo posted..it explains it much better than i can

#690 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 2:01 am

osaka,
I’ve been pissed off since January. I personally feel beaten up for literally 9 straight months.

Can’t wait for it to end.

#691 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:01 am

672 Pookie on 09.15.08 at 1:52 am

666Billiejo they have made a mockery of our constitution so they might as well kick Joe out and do what they want our laws mean nothing to them they are so in the hole since McCain chose Palin they are grasping at straws I sure hope Hillary has the intestinal fortitude to say NO! I do not like to be this angry but I am
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Pookie, don’t get upset….we don’t know if this will happen. If obie stays down in the polls he will do something.

#692 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 2:02 am

Lehman Brothers is filing for Chapter 11, Merril-Lynch was bought by Bank America. How much money NObama received for his campaign from this two companies thru his bundlers?

NObama received a lot of money from lobbyists thru his bundlers.

#693 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:02 am

I read it and really did not comprehend, guess it is late and I will have to read it again………

#694 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:02 am

670 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 1:51 am

I just straight up miss Hillary
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Me too Hill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#695 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 2:03 am

dem4.. i hate the mainstream media.. i hate their guts :lol:

#696 Pookie on 09.15.08 at 2:05 am

The DNC are the ones to blame they fell in love with Nobama on the first date they should be brought up on treason charges for what they have done or are trying to do to our country.

#697 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 2:06 am

Actually I posted last week(based on nothing but a hunch ) that Biden may be tossed out and Hillary brought in. It’s apparent that Biden has been very low key and almost absent from any news bites. It does seem that the boss is not so hot about Biden since Palin came on the scene. It is very obvious when you add 2 + 2 together. Who would he put to counter Palin – of course another woman , Hillary !! Listen to how he is saying that Hillary is probably the better VP pick. He knows he is being thrown off the bus soon enough. I read yesterday that his “entourage” is one photographer and two reporters. Compare that to Palin ?? Night and Day.

#698 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:06 am

#687 Dem4Hillary

osaka,
I’ve been pissed off since January. I personally feel beaten up for literally 9 straight months.

Can’t wait for it to end.
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Same here, but think of how strange it will be when the drama is over. I will probably go though withdrawls :lol:

#699 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:10 am

694 freddiebrown
He knows he is being thrown off the bus soon enough. I read yesterday that his “entourage” is one photographer and two reporters. Compare that to Palin ?? Night and Day.
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I feel sorry for Biden in this situation…. but do you think he is innocent in helping (his son) to silence Larry Sinclair?

#700 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:11 am

I caught a little of a blog radio show last night Larry Sinclair was planning to go to the midwest and tell his story. This guy must have a death wish with the Obama thugs.

#701 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:12 am

I guess I am alone again…. good night all.
Sweet deams.

#702 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 2:12 am

I must sleep now…

Have sweet dreams of 5 dollar gas, DNC shams, the financial sector falling apart, can’t pay my credit card bill, and my thesis is due and then when I get done with that, I owe about 80,000 in student loans…

Goodnight everybody

I’M READY TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.

one of my favorite goodnights from PUMAPAC:

Goodnight comb
Goodnight brush
Goodnight woman at RBC slamming her gavel and yelling “hush”

#703 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:15 am

Billie I went back and read thru old posts,Whoever this person is they used to blog here under the name toptalk65?

#704 CyberFerret52 on 09.15.08 at 2:15 am

#127 john A.C.O.R.N, that’s Obama’s group. He has worked with them for years. Nuf said ain’t it? I’m reposting your link PASS IT ON PUMAS!!

http://countusout.wordpress.com/

We have 300,000,000 pairs of eyes in this country and we all need to be watching.

#705 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 2:16 am

freddie.. do you think hillary will accept?
it doesnt make any sense to me that she would because a mccain win would get him one term and she could have a good shot at 2012..
an obama win would tie her to his administration which will be a flop..
i dont get it

#706 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:17 am

#700 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:15 am

Billie I went back and read thru old posts,Whoever this person is they used to blog here under the name toptalk65?
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Well, at least they are not an obie supporter.
How did you figure that out?

#707 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:19 am

Was going back thru old posts to see how long the blog had been active,and he posted his email address on one of the blogs and I recognized the name.

#708 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 2:20 am

Billie Jo – I havent connected the dots about Biden helping his son to silence Larry Sinclair – I didn’t keep up with that except that no one is talking about Larry Sinclair anymore. One thing I can tell you, the only person in the DNC I can trust, is Hillary. If you look past her blind support of Obama, she is pretty decent.

Anyway, I threw out my hunch last week and asked PUMAs if they would vote for Hillary is they threw her the VP bone. It caused quite a stir and I had to tell people to stop as I didn’t want them to go off focus on a hunch. Apparently even the daytime PUMAs will not vote for Obama if he picks Hillary.

#709 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 2:21 am

y’all are going to hate what I’m going to say given the “sexist” nature of it… But, I honestly hope, I really do, I honestly hope that if this really is an issue or possibility that Bill would protect her. Why do I say that? It’s not because she can’t see or can’t make her own decisions but really he has nothing to lose at this point. He is her biggest advocate. She has been by his side for 30 years. He owes it to her to literally take her out of the limelight, in that situation and have a private meeting with her and their advisors at a private location, possibly out of the country. When I say advisors I mean at most himself, Hillary, Terry McAuliffe, Harold Iches, and Madeline Albright. They have GOT to protect her from this machine, I mean it.

#710 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:21 am

Was just trying to see how legit that blogger was,so many sights you have to be careful,you know?

#711 Asian4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 2:22 am

YOu all MUST WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!!!! ITS AMAZING!!!!

Who’s Sorry Now………ROTFLMAO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ajJYkMd74

#712 osaka puma on 09.15.08 at 2:23 am

dem4.. i dont think thats sexist after all bill is hillarys husband and they do have their own loyalty

#713 Godzilla on 09.15.08 at 2:23 am

Today on ABC’s This Week, the Obama surrogate said that Sarah Palin criticized for whining during the primaries. This was to imply that Palin was only posturing when she spoke admiringly of Hillary during the Gibson interview. Blatant bullshit. This is what Palin actually said:

The Perceived Whine

That’s not criticism, that’s supportive advice. That interview took place when she was still pregnant with Trig. I really believe that Sarah Palin is an admirer of Hillary.

#714 Godzilla on 09.15.08 at 2:24 am

That should have been “criticized Hillary”.

#715 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:28 am

What about this situation………..

The One continues to free fall in the polls, he finally offers VP and Queen of Universal Health Care to Hillary, she accepts knowing that Obie will have to concede the election because of either illegal US birth certificate stuff or fraud in caucuses, or one of the other billions of dirty things he is involved with. Hillary is elected by the DNC to the top of the ticket, and she picks Biden for her VP.

#716 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:30 am

Obama will never concede…….

#717 BillieJo on 09.15.08 at 2:32 am

And with that last thought, I will go to bed with my fantasy of Hillary as the top of the ticket.

One extra thought, when she wins, she gets rid of Howie, Nancy and Donna for corruption and manipulation charges. “The come back kid.”
Amen.
Sweet dreams.

#718 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 2:34 am

Osaka – I hate to say it but I think Hillary will accept because she is very pro party. What reason could she give for not accepting ? She has to be very careful if she wants to be in politics in future.

I knew way 2 or 3 years ago, that Hillary will be running..you know how… there were pictures of Chelsea and her boyfriend all over the fashion magazines. Every month, different magazines. She would be hosted by Donatella (of Versace) etc and going to fashion week etc . I think Donatella is to be credited for her new look – straightened hair etc. Reports of Chelsea partying with fashion crowd. Then it stopped. Nothing. My hunch then was that Mama Hillary put an end to it. That was what my husband and I were saying. Because Hillary didn’t want this to come back to haunt her when she ran . Sure enough, it happened.

Part of my job is to get a feel of trends – what is going on in fashion . It is not a concrete thing – it is a hunch . You just look and read everything going on around you. Then you will find a certain message coming through. It is also called trendspotting. In this case of course it is not about trends but the same hunch applies.

#719 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 2:35 am

He has been in dirty politics forever,we watched the primary thinking he could never win,when we had all that trash on him,but look what he did,humiliated hillary rodham clinton in front of the world on nationwide international tv and got away with it? how? how? how?It makes no sense,we saw it and could not stop it?

#720 Dem4Hillary on 09.15.08 at 2:38 am

Osaka – I hate to say it but I think Hillary will accept because she is very pro party.

Nope, Bill puts a stop to it. That’s who…It’s something that happens that we don’t even know happens. I think Biden is in for the long haul.

Bill DID NOT negotiate a VP for Hillary. That did NOT happen. I swear it didn’t.

#721 CyberFerret52 on 09.15.08 at 2:49 am

#182 Slyt2 They removed it. We are going to have to save this kind of information to disk and not just save the links. We are fighting not only the msm but, their billionaire backers that want puppet Obama to win. If it’s bad for Obama then expect that someone may remove the source document. I am working on a library of documentation and will begin to save it to an exterior source that can’t be tampered with. This is not the first time I have seen this kind of thing happen.

#722 CyberFerret52 on 09.15.08 at 3:01 am

I think now that everyone can understand why Hillary has been under attack for years.
The msm has tarred and feathered her at every opportunity because of sexism and because corporate america doesn’t want to be ham strung by her policies. They have known for a very long time how capable she is and like McCain, is for the country and it’s people first. She would clean up the swamp in washington so they have tried to destroy her. She is truly incredible to have withstood this bashing for so long and is still standing. It has taken Obama, the msm and billionaires to defeat her this year and they still couldn’t do it without rigging the primaries. Amazing!

#723 tennaseepuma on 09.15.08 at 3:06 am

Cyberferret what was the video, i watched it and knew that I had seen it before,maybe you can refresh my memory and i will find it.

#724 Luckyseven on 09.15.08 at 3:39 am

Manning defending Bristol Palin!!! warning – his rating here is not exactly g or pg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-TZspqlOs&feature=related

#725 Luckyseven on 09.15.08 at 3:40 am

Pastor David Manning

#726 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 3:52 am

Who the hell is this Manning character that is spouting about Bristol ? If this guy is not setting himself up to be the Rev Wright for the Palins on purpose, I will eat any hat there’s out there.

It seems very over done and contrived – Manning is definately doing this video to hit back at the Republicans but making it look like he is sympathetic to the Palins. Like a “see, the Republicans have their own Rev. Wright’ So sad. So vile. So twisted.

No black person will talk about Obama like that and live.
It is a set up.

#727 Notyoursweetie on 09.15.08 at 4:14 am

One lonely criticism of the “No longer Mr Nice Guy” so called change of strategy
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/obamas-campaign-not-flawless-ohnoes/

#728 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 4:16 am

723 freddiebrown – You need to listen to all of Rev Manning’s videos – he never wants Obama in the white house – he believes he’s evil. He is standing up for Bristol. If you pull up all of his videos, you will see that he is “for” McCain!! He believes Obama is very evil, etc. Rev Manning has millions of followers and he is not afraid of Obama!!

#729 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 4:50 am

The American Thinker has some good articles. The author of 10 things for Obama, etc., has an email address at the bottom with a web site. Maybe we can get some help here.

Also, there is a reference on A.C.O.R.N. – shouldn’t this be a prowl?

http://www.americanthinker.com/

#730 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 5:11 am

Hey Gypsy – are you an early bird or a late one like me ?
I’m still working in between posting. All this nonsense is a bit much sometimes. I think east coasters should be up by now..

#731 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 5:13 am

727 freddiebrown – hi, I’m just up early and reading the news on different sites. Trying to keep up with things here. Are you in CA?

#732 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 5:23 am

Yes, am in CA. Its 2.20 am. Lets see what today brings. Life was not as stressful 20 months or so ago
for a lot of us.

#733 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 5:23 am

Good Morning!

Does anyone have a list of XO’s flip flops plus all the lies he told? Like about Rev. Wright, Ayers, etc.
I’m trying to compose a letter to the editor in Daytona. There is an article that the Dems are saying the GOP lied about Palin in Iraq. I find it laughable if it weren’t serious. They are taking all the attention off of XO’s lies, distortions and lack of qualifications.

#734 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 5:26 am

#723 I like Rev. Manning, I’ve spoken to him on Ed Hale’s blog radio talk show. Manning said Clinton was robbed, warns that Obama will ruin America and that black people hate white people, that whites can never do enough to make them happy. He also spoke of Donald Young’s murder at Trinity and also believes Larry Sinclair. Say Obama is pure evil.

#735 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 5:29 am

731 ladyhawkke – Good morning. I like him too – he’s a hoot and he says it all from the heart. Yes, he believes BO is pure evil – so do I!!

I’m looking for the list – Maybe we have one in the Action Center?

#736 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 5:38 am

I came across this website recently. It has a LOT of Anti-Obama articles and info all in one place. Perhaps Ladyhawkke, you can find what you need.

http://dontvoteobama.net/

#737 Notyoursweetie on 09.15.08 at 5:39 am

media playing surrogate for Obama – again
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/obama-jump-media-how-high/

#738 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 5:42 am

This website has an article about Donald Young too !!
picture and all.

#739 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 5:46 am

OK – that’s it for me. See you all in a few hours. Nap time for me. Hope tomorrow brings us one small step closer to NoBama.

#740 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 5:53 am

Thanks Freddie, have a good nap. I’m an early bird. I get up around 5am.

#741 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 5:57 am

Ladyhawke – flip flops

http://www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/asymmetric/2008/07/09/comprehensive-obama-flip-flop-list

#742 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 6:00 am

LadyHawkke – Obama’s flip flops can also be found on
http://dontvoteobama.net

specifically in this page;
http://dontvoteobama.net/adobe/flyer_nobama_mission.pdf

#743 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:04 am

739 freddiebrown – that site has EVERYTHING on it!! And I mean EVERYTHING!!!!

#744 freddiebrown on 09.15.08 at 6:11 am

Gypsy – I intend to donate to the site tomorrow.
Whoever it is , is doing a damn good job – all in one place. If anyone knows an easy way to do it, we should
let the other sites know and link to it.
http://dontvoteobama.net

I would love to make a booklet of this website to hand out. Now I must go to bed or it would be too late to do so.

This evil man is all consuming.

#745 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 6:18 am

Today on CNN webpage: The Obama campaign accuses McCain of running ” the most cyncial and sleziest campaign in modern Presidential history:….
Once again, they say of the opposition what they themselves do…
Obama says in New Hamphire…that they are trying to distort my record..What record?
See most read article re Rove for these quotes…

Don’t you think, given all the material we have on Obama, we should remind everyone who is the Sleze meister here?

#746 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:23 am

741 freddiebrown – see you later.

#747 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:26 am

742 NewOrleansPuma – I can’t really understand how BO thinks McCain’s campaign is “low”. McCain, himself, has never uttered anything against BO.

Also, BO wants his youth boot camp, and now he’s sending out his “women’s army” to attack Palin. Sounds like Hitler to me!!

#748 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 6:33 am

Murphy: Please consider doing a Major prowl regarding the Obama campaign statement regarding..the accusation that the McCain campaign is running
the most cynical and sleaziest campaign in modern Presidential history….This is outrageous….when it is and has been clear fo 10 months these Alinskyites are in fact the ones who have and will continue to do this..

#749 Notyoursweetie on 09.15.08 at 6:34 am

More Hillary talk on Sunday
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/he-should-have-picked-her-sunday-talk/

#750 ontherocks on 09.15.08 at 6:35 am

Good Morning PUMAS!!
Happy Monday.
**************************************
post # 742
You would think with ALL the info people can find about BO; he would running away from this race but sadly he is not.

#751 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:35 am

#745 NewOrleansPuma
Murphy: Please consider doing a Major prowl regarding the Obama campaign statement regarding..the accusation that the McCain campaign is running
the most cynical and sleaziest campaign in modern Presidential history….This is outrageous….when it is and has been clear fo 10 months these Alinskyites are in fact the ones who have and will continue to do this..
=================================
second that one!

#752 NoMoreInFL on 09.15.08 at 6:35 am

I agree 1gypsy4mc he does sound and act like Hilter! I have friends and they keep saying…why is the media not saying what you all know? Easy…just like Hilter, they are promoting the evil one!

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER! He’s a “Sleeper” set out to destroy our great country from within. I will vote McCain/Palin and do everything I can to educate others!

#753 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 6:39 am

#7441gypsy4Mc: This is a tactic that they have used cosistently no matter the issue: Attribute to the opposition what you yourself are doing…It is one of the oldest and slimiest tactic in the book…This is why I have asked Murphy for a Prowl…We need to select Obama sleaze and shove it back to the media et al regarding who and what in fact has and is being done…
Re obimbo and Hitleer: There is no doubt the tactics and the model for so called governing as well as campaigning used by the Alinskyites is the same as Hitler and every other socialist, fascist movement that has arisen in modern history.
It will continue and get worse. We must not let up on this guy and his crew.

#754 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:39 am

749 NoMoreInFL – this man has to be stopped! I called my daughter about the “sex ed” and she flipped. She is ready to do home schooling. She is going to sit in on my grandchildren’s classes this year to see what is being taught in the schools. The schools want federal funding, but the Teachers’ Union wants BO – doesn’t compute in my books!!

#755 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 6:40 am

#741 Yes, a booklet would be great. I’m losing e-mail pals by the dozens because of not supporting XO. Seems people must vote the PARTY, just like Commies.

#756 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 6:42 am

good morning Puma’s

#757 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:43 am

750 NewOrleansPuma – yep – his friends and associates are either marxist muslims, anti-americans, George Soros (Hitler protege!!), and it goes on and on and the damn media doesn’t care!! The only one that keeps beating the drum is Hannity – on the news media. Many do this on the radio, but it isn’t being passed on either!!

#758 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:45 am

753 slyt2 – hey there – good morning! Can you see we’re ready to roll?

#759 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 6:46 am

#750 NewOrleansPuma See my post #384 from yesterday if you want to act on a prowl to your state. One of our Pumas sent it to Hannity & Greta and also nobamanetwork put it on a lot of anti-Obama websites. Ricki Lieberman also e-mailed me and is going to use all or part of it.

#760 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 6:47 am

Re Rove and his comments on CNN webpage today:
No one should think that Rove supports McCain or any other alternative to Obimbo. It has been my thought for many, many months that a portion of the top %1percent of individuals and corporations who run this country and this world are, in fact, behind Obimbo..That in fact of this group some who were and are Bush backers, some have from beginning moved to support Obama.
They certainly were not behind Clinton, Soros , only one among them. …In this group, party is of no interest or use. Karl Rove is the most sinister political operative since Rasputin, in my view. And, no one should believe that he is not involved in a move, no matter the candidate, to retain financial and political power and influence .

#761 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 6:49 am

#756 ladyhawkke – is it on the previous thread or this one? I had to re-generate yesterday to help prepare for the rest of the fight!!

#762 justnotright on 09.15.08 at 6:51 am

Did you see this?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/joe-who.html

It’s sad. The DNC has really screwed the pooch on this one.

They will be begging Hillary to take over for Biden, but if she’s smart, she’ll turn it down.

She should accept nothing less than to take over from Obama! Either that or 2012, period.

#763 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 6:52 am

BillieJo and everyone re: Biden stepping aside for Hillary. I have already sent a fax to Hillary and asked her not to accept that as I still would not vote for him. I also told her she was in control and tell him she wants to be on top of the ticket, that we could put up with his lies only if she were on top. To stand up for herself and take what is hers.

#764 NoMoreInFL on 09.15.08 at 6:56 am

I keep praying that *61 would be exposed and as his associates and connections to destroy our country keeps coming to light…all I can do is pray, he falls swiftly!

He is a wake up call for America to not acept party over country! NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#765 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 6:58 am

#757comment, continued: And, certainly, Rove and others know McCain is not Bush and will never be able to be led or manipulated as Bush has, which is why, Obama campaign continues to try to equate Bush and McCain . George Soros, for example, asserts a pseudo, quasi socialist agenda, but that only refers to the masses, i.e., us…At the top of any socialist or fascist governing body are those who run the show and the money: Soros and other 1% financiers and money changers in this world..the globaliztion crew, the world citizen crew…are of this mindset. This is also why I have thought and believe that Obama represents an attempted coup in this country, using by distorting the current political structures, i.le. DNC to accomplish what a blood coup would be too messy to do.
This is also why I consider Obimbo the most dangerous phenomenon to ever hit this country in its entire history. I have not one paranoid or cynister vein in my body..Follwing the moves, and tactics from the beginning point in certain clear directions, it seems to me.

#766 ontherocks on 09.15.08 at 6:58 am

I honestly believe that BO knows he screwed up big time by not picking Hillary. If if he would have picked her I would still not be voting for him. They are just mad because McCain/Palin are getting a lot of news coverage and it isn’t all bad.
I respect Hillary and think she will come out strong in 2012 and hopefully she will have the FULL support of the DNC.

#767 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.15.08 at 7:01 am

thank you PUMA’s for the visits to my blog~ I also had done a blog on why women should vote~ the video’s are a powerful reminder of what our grandmothers and great-grandmothers fought for. Thanks again for the visits and comments.

http://southjerseypumas.blogspot.com/

I call my blog; Lip-Stick It!

#768 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 7:03 am

#763 ontherocks we don’t know if the rumor is true or not; however, I do believe we need to do a PROWL to Hillary asking her NOT to accept the VP slot, to accept nothing but being on top of the ticket. This election was stolen from her and if she accepts the VP slot, I have lost all respect for her. She is holding the cards now and can demand to be put on top. The Obots would have to get over it, they could still have their liar on bottom, but not on top.

#769 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.15.08 at 7:04 am

It has been reported by fox that when compared with McCain’s agenda, O will be like a 2nd term bush~ not Mac! lmao! can you imagine he is the one that will eat his own words!

#770 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 7:05 am

#764 South Jersey Puma See my post #765. Get your blog going on this. I faxed Hillary days ago when I heard the rumor and also faxed a copy of Bill Clinton’s NY office.

Have a tennis match at 8:30, will be back later.

#771 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.15.08 at 7:06 am

if Hillary is asked, I do believe she will run. She will swallow her pride and do it hoping to get this dem party in the WH~

#772 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 7:10 am

yes i see that 1gypsy4mc I’m trying to catch up on all these great postings.

#773 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 7:11 am

For those of you that have other web sites, please post here and leave your link. This is prowlland’s site for Texans or anyone else that wishes to post. It is a new site and she can use your help. Prowlland doesn’t have electricity at this time so TexasSherry is helping her. Thanks.

http://mcpalinmavericks.wordpress.com/

#774 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 7:11 am

Hillary swallowed her pride or what ever else one maycall it the day she said she supports the fraud. I will not and can not ever forget that. And obviously, I don’t care what she is doing. I am doing what I am doing and what I believe people in this country must do: Nobama, Not now, Not ever, Never, Not ever!
I have sent her these kinds of messages to her Senate site since before and after she ended her campaign. And I have also noted my rejection of her as VP.

#775 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.15.08 at 7:14 am

they are busting on the O camp for the attack on McCain for not being able to do emails etc… hahaa.. bo did this to lock in the young vote as those “kids” will find this as depicting McCain illiterate with the pc, which he is not. and yes, i know it was already discussed here, just saying what the O camp thinking is~ or better “NOT” thinking!

#776 NoMoreInFL on 09.15.08 at 7:16 am

#762 NewOrleansPuma You are so right on!

Here is a link that gives an overview of Tarpley’s book:
http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/obama-the-postmodern-coup-making-of-a-manchurian-candidate/

Here is a link to the author:
http://www.tarpley.net/

Off to rest…be back later.

#777 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 7:16 am

Let’s say the rumor is true if she is asked to be his VP wouldn’t she have to kiss her run for the white house goodbye in 2012 because you know he’d run again in 4 years and she would automatically be vp again(that is assume he would win) but I guess she would have to decide what’s more important running in 4 years or saying well i made it pretty fair and be happy with second spot.

#778 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 7:30 am

#7701gypsyformc: Thanks for the website link. I have visited…looks good…I have also just now gone to McCain website and told them about it. I will do that several times today. Place is crawling with roaches. ..running out the Obimbo cracks. I will enjoy seeing how our Puma friends fry the roaches when they attempt to post over at the new site they have set up!

#779 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 7:37 am

Has anyone seen the cartoon pic of BO as the Pied Piper? I have it, but can only send it email.

#780 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 7:42 am

#7761gypsy4mc: I have not, would like to..can you gmail it to me, if you do not mind. Can it be posted on
the site by prowland…can it be posted here if you email it to Murphy? That would be great..

#781 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 7:45 am

anyone watching Good Morning America?

Nobama is on defending Biden’s remarks….

and why he chose him….LIAR.

#782 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 7:47 am

777 NewOrleansPuma – I just sent it to Sherry, but don’t know if she’s up yet.. gmail and name?

#783 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 7:48 am

Dear Senator McCain:

I am a former Hillary Clinton supporter who is considering voting for the McCain/Palin ticket. There are many issues I disagree with you on but am willing to overlook except for the following:
(1) Illegal Immigration. I am against all illegal immigration. I do not want to hear the word “comprehensive immigration reform” which is a code word for amnesty. I have read the McCain/Feingold/Kennedy bill and it is a bad bill. It does not take a book to write a bill to stop illegals from entering our country. Illegals have no rights as citizens of this country and should not have access to our schools and hospitals. We do not have an obligation to educate and teach them English. There are many poor American citizens who have been denied benefits that illegals readily obtain. I am against the border fence because of the environmental impact on the animals that migrate between Mexico and the U.S. The solution is the Real ID act and fining employers. If there are no jobs, they will go home.
(2) ANWR. I am unalterably opposed to Gov. Palin’s stance on drilling in ANWR. I believe you need to take into consideration the viewpoint of the Gwich’in Indians who live in this pristine area. In their own words:
“Maybe there are too few of us to matter. Maybe people think Indians are not important enough to consider in making their energy decisions. But it’s my people who are threatened by this development. We are the ones who have everything to lose.
The oil companies keep saying that all their roads and pipelines aren’t going to bother the caribou. But we know the caribou. We know they don’t like all that stuff, especially when they are having their calves. We are concerned about all the salt and chemicals they put on their roads. It can drain onto the tundra, get into the water, and be unhealthy for the young caribou. A report from the Canadian government tells us that the caribou have already been disturbed around the oil fields. If we lose the caribou there will be no more forever.”
by Sarah James
Board Member/Spokesperson
Neet’sai Gwich’in, Arctic Village
http://www.gwichinsteeringcommittee.org/index.html
These are very powerful words. If you don’t protect this area, who will? Please do not change your stance about drilling in ANWR. My vote depends on it

#784 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 7:50 am

1gypsy4mccain: NewOrleansPuma@gmail.com
Thank you.

#785 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 7:51 am

#778bythe lake: Liar, Liar, pants on fire, burn your arse, you’re more than dire…

#786 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 7:57 am

781 NewOrleansPuma – it’s coming from Yahoo.

#787 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 7:59 am

#778 bythelake nope didn’t see him was watching Morning Joe (which I can think of another name morning ….) but I’d get banned from here. So i’m watching them fall all over Robert Gibbs serious why don’t they just have BO’s camp move in and talk to them all day. The scariest part is one JUST ONE comment was made about them not being nice to McCain’s camp (as far as ads go)and it came from Andrea Mitchell believe that one.

#788 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:00 am

NewOrleans – if it’s too big, I can fix that.

#789 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 8:00 am

1gypsy4mccain: Got it..Love it…Thanks so much!

#790 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:02 am

786 NewOrleansPuma :lol:

#791 hillaryistheone on 09.15.08 at 8:03 am

#771 NewOrleansPuma, I totally agree. Hillary is for Party….not Country!! Otherwise she would NOT be out there supporting that empty suit!! She is hurting herself by doing so.

#792 john on 09.15.08 at 8:03 am

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL (FOR POLITICAL GAIN)

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
continue reading: http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#793 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:08 am

Murphy – you’ve got mail along with a good pic (IMO).

#794 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 8:09 am

Sorry about the two video links I posted last night, they were incomplete. Here they are again. They are the ones where he appears to be on “something”, so maybe Larry Sinclair has some credibility to his drug claims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc&feature=related

#795 hillaryistheone on 09.15.08 at 8:09 am

#780 ladyhawkke, I agree with the immigration. But, ANWR is a farse. It isn’t going to hurt the caribou and the Gwich’in Indians do not even live close to where they will drill.

#796 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:12 am

792 hillaryistheone – plus most of them live in Canada too!!

#797 ladyhawkke on 09.15.08 at 8:13 am

#792 hillaryistheone I don’t agree, the caribou travel a long way. The oil they get from ANWR will be nothing compared to the destruction of the environment. I’ve seen what happens here in my town when they continue to plow down trees to put in more concrete, more condos. Across the street from me when they trashed the empty lot to build, they didn’t consider the hawks who had a nest there. The poor hawk was in my yard with nowhere to go. Don’t know where you live, maybe in a big city, but I look at places all over the world that are being destroyed, all in the name of greed.

#798 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 8:13 am

# 789john: tHANK You for the post regading Obama’s attempt to manipulate crucial issues to his own political gain. This is a must read for everyone. I hope you will read this “article”. i.e..post.

As we all have said so often and must continue to do so:This man will turn anything and everything into an occasion for his selfinteres: It is the Alinsky way and he is the Alinsky Master. That is his identity. That is his only identity and the only consistency he has shown in his entire adult life: Using the method to get what he wants. He is a sociopath. No self and all selves, whatever works. He is whatever needs to be mirrored in the moment to achieve ..”himself.” Why he is a dangerous succor.

#799 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:15 am

<b?789 john Where’ve you been? :lol:

#800 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:15 am

well, that didn’t work!

#801 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 8:16 am

784 slyt2………Nobama is so pathetic. He claims McCain is the one making the campaign negative. Geez, need he get glasses?

#802 hillaryistheone on 09.15.08 at 8:17 am

#794 ladyhawkke, I agree about the trees also….did you look at the land where they will drill….there are no trees. Barren land.

#803 Henerietta on 09.15.08 at 8:17 am

As we discuss all of this, it is becoming more and more obvious that reform of the DNC is going to be difficult. It would appear to me that more than 1/2 of the super delegates participated, either a little or a lot in this cabal to keep Hillary from being president. When we consider that the super delegates are the core officials of the party, that becomes a scary specter.

If we are to purge the corruption from the party, that means we have to get rid of, or reform 1/2 of the party inner circle. Hillary and Bill see the writing on the wall. Either they go along with this now, or they leave the party. If there ever was a house divided, this is it.

The real problem here is that the rank and file democrat on the street does not know the depths of the corruption within the party. Some that I talk to do not even know how the nomination process and delegates works. It would seem that we have a huge job ahead of us. The first thing we need to do in our efforts to reform the party (after or while we are derailing Obama) is to educate the public on how the party works, and the mess they made. An informed electorate will be vital in rebuilding the party into something we can live with.

#804 ontherocks on 09.15.08 at 8:18 am

Post # 789
John,
Thank you for posting the link. Very interesting.
This guy will stop at nothing to win. That is scary.

#805 hillaryistheone on 09.15.08 at 8:19 am

#794 ladyhawkke, I live in Wyoming (LOL, big city, there isn’t a big city here) …they drill here and much of the land is barren…just like ANWR.

#806 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 8:28 am

OMG, I am SO angry at the statement Obama made in this youtube about asthma. He’s an idiot! My daughter almost died because of an asthma attack. Did I ever have to take her to the emergency room? You bet! Oh, he makes me SICK! He needs to get a real clue about healthcare!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

#807 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 8:30 am

So angry, wrong link………..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc&feature=related

#808 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 8:32 am

Gypsy I am happy to see you! My sister was asking about you and your mini’s.

Everything ok?

#809 lilibet on 09.15.08 at 8:40 am

The problem with incorrect links is that they cost a lot in wasted time, at least for some of us. Often when I click on such a link it causes a freeze and that really frustrates me as I have to restart. That makes me hesitant to click on any links and that is unfortunate because they are links to some good readings. Also I, for one, would appreciate knowing to what I am linking. Why? Because there are so many posts to read and for me a link to an off topic video, as amusing as others find it, is just lost time for me.

#810 lilibet on 09.15.08 at 8:42 am

Sorry: ..it is unfortunate because THERE are links…

#811 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:42 am

Carrie – tell her I said Hello!! I’m find down here; we got very little rain and hardly any wind. How is she doing? Ike went up her way, didn’t it?

#812 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 8:43 am

gee whiz 806 lilibet……….won’t happen again. If your computer is freezing, time to get a new one. Have a good day.

#813 kids1627 on 09.15.08 at 8:44 am

I guess what we have to do is defeat the party we use to love but what else can we do wouldn’t that be step one than work on reform if it is possible . But as we speak we our in great trouble the market looks to me like it just might crash. I own a small business so it won’t have much to do with me but big comapny’s invested in cash markets to make payroll may be in real trouble thier stocks will be worth nothing or very little . Now is when we really needed Hillary and Bill . I take that back I am just a hobby as they now say a sm business is worth 10,000,000.

#814 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 8:49 am

#804 bythelake OMG right there with you I have had to take my oldest to the emergency room because her asthma was so bad and they admitted her over nite and she had to be in a “breathing tent” (it was over her head to shoulders ) I believe that’s what they called it, it’s been awhile..
Hey Carrie missed you yesterday, tell your sister hello.

#815 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 8:50 am

They are without power Gypsy. We have no idea for how long. Some parts of their area wont be on until the 17th, but we are hiping that they will get to them before that.

#816 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.15.08 at 8:52 am

#809 bythelake, how was the wind around your area last night? I’m in NE Ohio, Youngstown, and we had winds from Ike clocked at 61 miles. I have a hell of a mess outside to clean up. Tree limbs all over the place.

We kept losing power so I’ve been off computer since yesterday afternoo when the wind started.

#817 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:52 am

812 Caracal Carrie – do we need to send care packages or something to her – where does she live? Does she have water, food, etc?

#818 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 8:53 am

Thanks Sly!
I popped on at one time, but find myself with irritated sometimes when I get on here so I didn’t say much and got right off.
I spent some time screening web sites for info, but some of them have stuff that is only confirmed by far left sites and Im afraid to use that kind of stuff so its not just dismissed as an unfounded attack.

#819 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 8:53 am

#798 bythelake how did you do with the storms the other day, are you by Cinn my nephew lives there and winds and storms from Ike took their power out (my mom said something like 4 days, I assume to be without power).

#820 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 8:55 am

She has plenty of food and water. She can get to a store that’s open. They are just very very hot. They spent the day yesterday cleaning up the fallin branches from her pecan trees.

#821 kids1627 on 09.15.08 at 8:55 am

We have asthma in our family and two of the girls had to be taken often in the middle of the night. This guy is so shallow he left elderly with no heat for the winter and just what did they spend the money on they got from the goverment I wonder no one is asking the questions. If this country goes down it will be MSM fault and the dems. Biden saying Hillary’s the best is what makes me so mad I can’t see .

#822 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 8:56 am

Ohio and bythelake

we had the same thing here in Indiana. I have to have someone out today to puck up this huge antenna that was ripped off of my house.

#823 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 8:57 am

Carrie – I’m sorry to hear that. I imagine she had to take everything out of her fridge also. Please let me know what I can do, ok?

#824 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 8:59 am

#817 Caracal Carrie OMG I was so mad about what I read from bythelake that I didn’t see your post about her losing power just saw you on . I’m so glad she is ok and can get to a store tell her I said I’m thinking of her and glad to hear for the most part she is ok. Like 1gypsy4mc said if she needs anything let us know. That goes for any of our fellow pumas. I am going to drop off water today for the red cross and other things they need to take to victims.

#825 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 8:59 am

Well gypsy everytime I talked to her all she asked is if I had seen you or knew how you and your horses came out!

#826 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 8:59 am

kids1627: Re Biden comment…That is simply more pandering to women.we are supposed to think more of him I suppose for having said that…They really don’t know women very well…do they?
They will know much more by the time we are finished!

#827 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 9:01 am

We had on/off power all night. Winds in Ashtabula had 78mph gusts. Only one school closing today though. I know there are trees down per local paper. Can’t imagine being in a real hurricane.

#828 kids1627 on 09.15.08 at 9:01 am

My nephew is a lineman for Southern Power they told him he would be in Tx and LA for up to six weeks he has been down there two now.

#829 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 9:01 am

CaracalCarrie: Tell her we are all thinking of her!

#830 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:01 am

Carrie – you and your sister are both so nice. Tell her all my minis are fine. Hopefully she has a laptop or something, otherwise I think she’ll go bonkers not being able to join us!

#831 NewOrleansPuma on 09.15.08 at 9:02 am

I have to go for now, Pumas…God bless you all and the important work that we are doing and will do!

#832 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 9:04 am

I think Texas is enjoying her bacon flavored spam. She may have gotten herself dropped to the bottom of the turn on power list by telling the power company alll about themselves. But they are safe.

She let Buh the bull dog out towards the end of the storm and they had to do a dog search, so that was a bit of a panic. But turns out he was out running in the rain with the horses doing his lil dog laugh.

#833 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:05 am

828 NewOrleansPuma – bye – send that pic to everyone! :lol:

#834 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.15.08 at 9:06 am

#810 kids1627, I am a small business owner too. I have been been in business since 1995 but selling to the online community since 1998. I have never seen business as bad as it is now. I had high hopes in Hillary being our CIC and donated money that I could not afford but that didn’t matter because I wanted her to win. Now what hurts me the most is not the loss of business nor the amount of money I’ve spent, it’s the sadness that Hillary has turned her back on all of us! When she stopped the roll call vote I took that as a direct slap in the face. And now she is stumping for O Crap! She reminds me of a woman who has had the shit beat out of her, insulted and terrorized, and all it took was a “I’m sorry, I won’t do it again apology” from O Crap and there she is telling all of us how great her abuser is and we should all vote for him. I’m done with Hillary! She is a politician and she will never have my support again.

#835 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:06 am

829 Caracal Carrie – you’re so funny! :lol:

#836 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 9:06 am

She has a lap top, but probably will not get on it, since with no power all she would be able to use would be dial up and no dial up isp.

#837 lilibet on 09.15.08 at 9:10 am

bythe lake:
I am so, soooo very sorry. I did not see YouR posts before I wrote the complaining note about links. I had jumped from the middle of the page to the leave a comment. After I made the comment I saw your response and was sorry in the extreme because I thought that you might think I was chiding you. PERISH THE THOUGHT. I JUST WOULDN’T DO THAT. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY!

#838 hillaryistheone on 09.15.08 at 9:11 am

#831 go_Ohio_Lady, Exactly!! Hillary has turned her back on us that supported her and on her country for “the party”. Very sad indeed.

Isn’t that what women are suppose to do. Get beat up and then take the SOB back??? She sure is doing just that.

#839 Notyoursweetie on 09.15.08 at 9:13 am

Obama is in Wall Street’s pocket – how can he reform it?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/obama-beholden-to-wall-street/

#840 kids1627 on 09.15.08 at 9:14 am

#831 I to am getting a little pissed at Hillary can’t help myself I know they would really black ball her if they have not already I mean after all they are the same people that called them white trash when Bill won in 92. They are the same people who look down thier noses at us all Kennedy,Kerry, Dodd, Thier lap dogs are Biden Obama etc and I guess Bill and Hill now.IMO

#841 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 9:15 am

Ok i’m watching fox news here and has anyone heard about this photograph who took pictures of McCain for a magazine then went on her Blog and bragged about the fact she purposely made McCain look bad. It’s coming up on fox they are going to talk to the mag about it (Megan Kelly is back) so turn it on and see. Oh big surprise photographer is a BO supporter..

#842 will13smith on 09.15.08 at 9:15 am

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL (FOR POLITICAL GAIN)

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?&page=0

#843 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 9:15 am

I’m still very upset over that asthma youtube. That one really hit home and brings up bad memories.

Short story; 1989 per my doctor’s orders, I took my then 5 year old daughter to the “emergency” room to be quickly admitted to the hospital due to an asthma attack.

With asthma being so unpredictable, she almost died. She was life-flighted to Rainbows in Cleveland on a breathing bag, collapsed lung and comatose.

I didn’t know if I would see her alive when I got there. It was without a doubt one of the worse nightmares of a mother.

For Barack Obama to minimize an asthma attack of “taking up a bed” in an emergency has fueled my fire. I will personally let this idiot know the seriousness of asthma.

I thank God today, no everyday that my daughter is okay.

#844 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.15.08 at 9:18 am

#835 hillaryistheone, When Hillary had to face the things Bill did I admired her because that was their personal business and how she handled it was her business also. I never judged Bill or Hillary. But now, she is trying to get her 18 million voters to accept BAD Behavior and turn our cheeks to get slapped again and I’ll be damned if I’ll do it. For me it’s McCain/Palin all the way to the White House.

#845 prplvette85 on 09.15.08 at 9:18 am

Good Morning everyone. It has been a long night. No power, and my basement is flooded, lost everything in it. I watched that video just now about obama and the asthma remarks. What an asshole. I have asthma, as do my grand daughter. And just what are you supposed to do when you HAVE NO MEDICAL INSURANCE and cannot get an inhaler? or treatment? I had just that problem last night, because of the heat and no circulation in my house, I had a hard time. I am better my mother in law had an inhaler that she did not use, so she gave it to me.
I have been so worried about my texas friends, then my own basement got flooded, and getting pissed everytime I have to see oblowme on tvI think the stress is getting to me. I hate being here in the first place, and with all that is going on, I find myself more with more days that I am angry and depressed, than happy and optimistic like I normally am. Does anyone else feel that way? I wish I could move back to Denver! Oh well life goes on….and I sound exactly like an old, bitter, gun clinging bitch….thanks alot obiteme!

#846 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:18 am

This is an older article that refers to George Soros and England’s bank. This is just what is happening here. And do we really think that BHO wouldn’t be happy about this also.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/05/george_soros_and_the_future_of.html

#847 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 9:19 am

834 lilibet ……..it’s okay, I’m sorry, that youtube really, really hit a nerve.

Recipe for the day….

COOK OBAMA’S GOOSE!

#848 CTKEY on 09.15.08 at 9:22 am

#708 Asian…that was a great video to start the day with ! Thanks.

#849 lilibet on 09.15.08 at 9:23 am

Thanlkyou, bythe lake.
I’ll try to help you COOK THAT GOOSE.

#850 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:24 am

842 prplvette85 – I’m sorry about your loss. Also, can you get to a pharmacy or anything? Are you stranded? Where are you?

And yes, I was feeling like that yesterday, but just regrouped (I think).

#851 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.15.08 at 9:26 am

842 prplvette85, OMG, I can’t stop laughing! I’m sorry about your basement flooding and your breathing problem, honestly I am. But the way you say O Craps name is too funny, oblowme, obiteme. I needed the laugh and you gave it to me. Now is there anything I can do to help you?

#852 kids1627 on 09.15.08 at 9:27 am

Opening bell in six min. it will be the big story of the day. alot of people will lose thier money and thier jobs today.

#853 prplvette85 on 09.15.08 at 9:29 am

#847 1gypsy4mc- I am in Northwest Indiana, right on the line where they evacuated people! My husband was out until 3 in the morning, he drives a shuttle bus for a trucking school and hotel, they had to evacutate the hotel and find places for all the students. So I was home alone dealing with the freekin basement flood, then the power went out during the blog radio show…thats when I discovered the basement was getting worse, I am ok, still no power now we are trying to find sump pumps to get the water out….there is a shortage of course.
I am ok though, thanks for asking. I am going to see If I can get to work through the streets, I am an insurance agent and I am sure the phone will be ringing off the hook today with homeowners with the same problem as me.

#854 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 9:30 am

I actually got an email from a puma this morning telling me they don’t want to send people to the site because they don’t like they way its laid out…

#855 go_Ohio_Lady on 09.15.08 at 9:32 am

#849 kids1627, is your business online? Maybe we could start a list of our members with online businesses and we could try to support one another since I don’t see things getting much better this year. I am 3 w’s shirtlady dot com

#856 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:33 am

AIG – possibly a Warren Buffet link there – I haven’t totally checked it out yet.

#857 Notyoursweetie on 09.15.08 at 9:33 am

Mr Anti-war stalled US withdrawal from Iraq
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/anti-war-candidate-stalled-withdrawal/

#858 lilibet on 09.15.08 at 9:33 am

SLY:
I DID YOUR BIDDING AND QUICKLY TURNED FOX ON. IT WAS JUST BEFORE A COMMERCIAL, AFTER WHICH THEY WILL COMPARE THE INTERVIEWS THAT CHARLIE GIBBONS GAVE TO SARAH AND OBAMA.

#859 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 9:34 am

They are going to talk about the photographer (with the magazine) who admits on blog that she made McCain look evil at 10:00. Also any minute they are going to talk to BO’s camp about them going too negative, already talked to McCains camp about it (the guy wasn’t very good at defending McCain’s ad’s I think he was caught off guard).

#860 prplvette85 on 09.15.08 at 9:35 am

#848 go_Ohio_Lady- Thanks, but I will be fine. I am trying to maintain my sense of humor. It is the only thing aside from my dignity, and my vote that I will not let him steal from me!

#861 1gypsy4mc on 09.15.08 at 9:36 am

850 prplvette85 – I’m so sorry. I was shocked when I saw how far the Ike storms went. I was so very, very lucky being “south” of Galveston, but I see there is so much damage going all the way North!! Please take care.

#862 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 9:41 am

#851 Caracal Carrie who doesn’t like the way what site is laid out this one , yours???
#855 lilibet well thank you I guess I jumped the gun alittle bit but they only say coming up then they give you a time after I posted it..lol.. I am curious to see what this mag says for it’s self about McCain’s picture also.

#863 gojoyknocks on 09.15.08 at 9:43 am

#842 prplvette85….I ‘m home, too depressed to go to work. Your post snapped me out of it. Thanks for the laugh. What can I do to help?

#864 shampoovta on 09.15.08 at 9:45 am

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

“LONG VIEW: Barack Obama tours Iraq with Gen. David Petraeus in July, when he sought to stall any agreement for US troop withdrawal until President Bush left office.”

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?page=0

#865 sistermoon3 on 09.15.08 at 9:45 am

First of all, when Obama went to Iraq, he was only speaking as a presidential candidate, he must have thought he was already the President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought he went there to assess things, that’s what he said, what a joke!
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Treason is the violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

#866 kids1627 on 09.15.08 at 9:50 am

#852 Go I own a an Assisted Living have tapped out to Hillary so has my husband I am now giving to JM/ Palin and feel blessed that I don’t have much to lose this stock market is terrible and the poor people who have been thru Ike . It would help if they would show how many were hurt by it .

#867 emme on 09.15.08 at 9:51 am

#325 BarbNOBO – I’m in northeastern PA, and Hillary won here as well by 70%. I’m a life-long Democrat, but I’m in the process of contacting as many other Hillary supporters as I can find to join PumaPac and protest by voting Nobama in November.

Nobama. November. NODEAL.

McCain/Palin ’08

#868 Daniella on 09.15.08 at 9:55 am

Request for PUMA Prowl: We need to contact Robert Greenwald and request that he demand questions answered by Barack Hussein Obama. Look at what Greenwald’s requesting of John McCain:

Help spread the word about McCain’s health records:

Email this video to everyone you know and encourage them to send it on.
Click the “digg it” button the right. Be sure you’re logged in to digg so your vote counts.
Add the video to your Facebook, MySpace, or MyBO page.

John McCain has not yet released his medical records to the public. McCain is 72 years old, and has been diagnosed with invasive melanoma. In May of this year, a small group of selected reporters were allowed to review 1,173 pages of McCain’s medical records that covered only the last eight years, and were allowed only three hours to do so. John McCain’s health is an issue of profound importance. We call on John McCain to issue a full, public disclosure of all of his medical records, available for the media and members of the general public to review.

http://therealmccain.com/doctors/?utm_source=rgemail

#869 emme on 09.15.08 at 9:56 am

#865 Daniella – he should demand the same of Joe Biden as well

#870 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 9:57 am

No its my web site they don’t like. I responded. Im not going to say who it is, but I will post my response so other pumas can keep it in mind.

I am sorry that you do not like the set up of the web site. I am not asking for you to use it, or demanding that you send other people to share its content. I am only trying to create a resource for you to have available if you should CHOOSE to use it.

I am no where near finished with the site. I hope that when it is done it is a site that people will like, but I am aware there are just some people you can not please.

I am just a private person, not a professional web designer, not a journalist, not a political organization. I have used the information that people have taken the time to send me to create the site. People have taken a lot of time to help me gather links and I have taken a lot of time putting it together.

While I understand that some people may not like the site, I do expect that they will respect and appreciate the time that has gone into the building of it.

Thank you for your comments,

Carrie

#871 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 9:58 am

someone posted this link on here yesterday and I was able to read it yesterday:

http://toledo.craigslist.org/rnr/840579092.html

I went to print it out this morning, and it has been removed. Have you noticed that ANYTHING negative, even though factual,about Obama is being swiftly removed from the net, while all the negatives and trashings of Sarah Palin are NEVER removed. There is something very frightening happening in our MSM, we have to climb a mountain to win this fight, but win we must!

#872 SparkForHill on 09.15.08 at 10:01 am

No way, no how, no BO!!!! no politicians to put them self above PEOPLE. Enough is enough.

#873 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 10:01 am

As to a matter of Senator McCain’s health….I noticed that Barack Obama has some sort of bump on the side of his nose that I have not seen before, have we seen his latest medical records? Since when does age determine when a person will face death. Unfortunately death has no age limits.

#874 BrianH on 09.15.08 at 10:03 am

#23 CyberFerret52 on 09.14.08 at 2:24 pm
Obama reports 66 million for the month of August. I want his fund raising apparatus investigated! With him sinking in the polls and many of Hillary’s donors refusing to fund his campaign, I want to know where his money is coming from.//
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I saw an analysis lately that said anything short of about $120 million was mostly eaten up by fund-raising and other expenses for a public appeal campaign. So the $66M is more or or less a dead loss.

McCain has no such expenses to speak of now, because he’s on public government funding, so net net McCain has much more to work with.

#875 mccaindemo on 09.15.08 at 10:03 am

NewOrleansPuma…what you have been saying regarding a coup from within is something I have thought for some time. I am wondering what you think can be done…won’t they just rig the GE as they did the primaries ? Who is backing McCain ? And if BO keeps dropping in the polls won’t they just get rid of the competition ? Where do the Clintons figure into this..part of or fighting it ? What can we do other than VOTE ?

#876 NJ1313 on 09.15.08 at 10:04 am

851
Love the set up on the site, especially the orange. I found it to be very easy to use.
thanks for the hard work and it is a very valuable site for people who need facts and answers fast.

#877 hillaryistheone on 09.15.08 at 10:04 am

#865 Daniella, LMAO….we have called for full account of Obama dealings, whether or not he is even a citizen of these United States. We all could drop dead tomorrow….get real!!

#878 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 10:09 am

girlsrule I AM THE ONE THAT POSTED IT, I know it had to be a da*n OBOT I am glad you were able to read it before, My husband said if things get flagged enough they will get rid of it someone or somebodies must have been busy because it has to be flagged several times.
#867 Caracal Carrie screw them, I mean it screw them, you have been busting your butt for what money NO, for the fame NO, just because you wanted to do something nice, i am so sick of people I think it looks great.
They have the Mag on now about photo of McCain.

#879 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 10:14 am

#865 Daniella ok I got on a read this , so some BO doctor is trying to start trouble is that what you are getting out of it and he got 29 other doctors to follow suit. Bo had released his medical records a while ago because there was something about his smoking. As far as who said that about the bump I the side of his nose if it’s the one i think you are talking about it’s a mole(i believe)and in younger pics of him it’s been there too.

#880 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 10:17 am

slyt2….LOL, I have never seen it before, but then again I don’t make it a habit of looking too close at BO’s face, thanks for clarifying.

#881 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 10:19 am

OMG are you watching this A*SSHOLE on fox from BO camp.

#882 DancesWithPumas on 09.15.08 at 10:23 am

851 Caracal Carrie
I actually got an email from a puma this morning telling me they don’t want to send people to the site because they don’t like they way its laid out…
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Wow, now there’s a great example of constructive criticism. Why would anyone go out of their way to tell you that, knowing that you’ve expended energy creating something that is meant to benefit Pumas?

We have 50 days left to defeat oblahblah, and that doesn’t leave a lot of time to waste mucking around trying to please everyone’s taste.

Just let it go. Do your best and leave the rest. It, they, aren’t worth the upset.

#883 Cassie on 09.15.08 at 10:25 am

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain attracting 49% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 47%.

#884 texassherry on 09.15.08 at 10:26 am

#842 prplvette85 ,

I am so sorry to hear about your flooding. I lost my first house (13 years ago)like that. My insurance didn’t cover flooding so it was a complete loss. I hope that you had flood insurance.

#885 texassherry on 09.15.08 at 10:27 am

Sorry about my bad manners this morning…Good Morning Y’all.

#886 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 10:30 am

We need something big to happen with BO I am not liking these poll numbers to close for my comfort. Chuck Todd said this morning that McCain will probably lose Pennsylvania because he already had his big bump and with Palin if he hasn’t gotten ahead or closer then he won’t win it now.What else can we do there ????

#887 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 10:38 am

Since the other one was removed, here is a good comparison of obama/palin:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/

#888 bythelake on 09.15.08 at 10:40 am

Here’s a copy of the original craigslist posting that has since been removed;

In 1997, Obama won a seat in the Illinois State Senate, while Sarah Palin was unseating the incumbent to become Mayor for Wasilla , Alaska . As Mayor, she reduced property taxes by 40%, improved the community through infrastructure investment, and earned the respect of her peers by being elected President of the Alaska Council of Mayors.

In June of 2003, Obama was busy raising money for a run at the US Senate. This included attending a lavish fund raiser for his Senate campaign, hosted by Tony Rezko, who was later indicted for corruption and accepting kickbacks. At the same time, Sarah Palin was busy taking on the good old boy network in Alaska politics, exposing corruption within her own party and taking a stand against politics as usual, which led to the resignation of state’s Republican Party chairman as well as the state’s Attorney General.

As Barack Obama was missing almost half (45.5%) his votes in the US Senate while organizing his campaign for President, Sarah Palin was defeating former governor Tony Knowles 48% to 40%, despite being outspent by her political rival.

In January of 2005, Barack Obama was inaugurated into the US Senate and has been a member of the lowest rated Congress in US History, with the lowest all-time low approval rating of 9%.

In 2006, Gov Palin entered off and earned approval ratings between 75% and 90% during her first two years in office.

In 2007, while Barack Obama was busy winning the designation “Most Liberal US Senator” by the National Journal, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska , was killing the “Bridge to Nowhere” project, saving US Taxpayers $200 million. While Barack Obama was talking about energy policy, Gov. Sarah Palin was drafting, introducing, and getting passed, a bill called the Alaska Gasoline Inducement Act, which would build a $26 billion natural gas pipeline from the North Slope to the Lower 48, helping reduce America ‘s dependence of foreign energy.

In 2008, while Barack Obama was criticizing a campaign to eliminate the Federal Tax on gasoline to help consumers, Governor Sarah Palin was suspending the Alaska state tax on gasoline and returning $1,200 of increased energy revenues to Alaska ‘s families.

Sarah Palin also runs a private business and is raising a family of five children. Her oldest has joined the U.S. Army and is deployed to Iraq .

What a women!

#889 Caracal Carrie on 09.15.08 at 10:46 am

Thank so much for your support yall. I feel better (((((((puma squish))))))

#890 mijabsnji on 09.15.08 at 10:47 am

Isn’t something big supose to come out about obama in October? Personaly I am convinced he will not win in Nov.

#891 mkp651 on 09.15.08 at 10:49 am

#886 Carrie

Can you post a link for your site? Hear you talk about it but haven’t been on to see the link. Thanks.

#892 mijabsnji on 09.15.08 at 10:49 am

On another note my Hillary suporters for MCCain baseball jersey has arrived, I think it wil be perfect on election day as I cast my vote for Mccain :)

#893 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 10:52 am

#885 bythelake Oh thank you how did you get that , I was so mad when I read it got flagged I would have had my husband save it right then and there after I posted it last nite had I known this would happen.See there is nothing even worth flagging just a OBOT not liking to hear the truth.
#886 Caracal Carrie You’ve got mail…. ;)

#894 DancesWithPumas on 09.15.08 at 10:55 am

“Part of my job, I think, as president, is to make government cool again.”
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, during a public service forum at Columbia University.
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He’s right, ya know.
Things like a bad economy, citizens defaulting on home mortgage loans, banks going under, the stock market nose diving, wars in iraq and afghanistan, and potentially pakistan, millions of citizens uninsured, global warming, extreme climate changes, all of these are just annoyances and distractions from obama’s goal of ‘making government cool’ again, which is a lofty goal to which any president should aspire.

#895 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 10:57 am

#885 by the lake…thank you for posting that craigslist article. I was beating myself up for not saving it yesterday, I have people I want to send this to!

#896 just.words... on 09.15.08 at 10:57 am

#878 slyt2

I saw NObama’s mouthpiece, Bill Burton, on Fox this morning. My primary reaction was repulsion: This young man was arrogant, unprofessional and overtly aggressive in his attempts to prop up his empty suit candidate — Burton actually sneered at the Fox interviewer a number of times, while he stuck to his snotty talking points and refused to answer a legitimate question about the inherent unfairness about ridiculing McCain for his inability to use a computer, when his prisoner-of-war wounds preclude him from typing on a keyboard.

A clown speaking on behalf of a clown!!

#897 mijabsnji on 09.15.08 at 10:58 am

no obama, never never never, he wouldn’t know the truth if it slaped him in the face.

#898 mijabsnji on 09.15.08 at 11:00 am

#878 slyt2
I saw that, it is awfull what obama is doing, he is desperate. I can’t wait to see Johns reply to that jerk.

#899 murphy on 09.15.08 at 11:00 am

dwp #891,

the one word that comes to mind when I think of Obama is AMATEUR.

#900 murphy on 09.15.08 at 11:01 am

new thread open — feel free to repost comments.

Take it upstairs!

#901 mijabsnji on 09.15.08 at 11:02 am

#896 murphy
The word I think of is Pretender

#902 DancesWithPumas on 09.15.08 at 11:03 am

896 murphy

I probably shouldn’t post the words that enter my mind when I think of obama.

#903 slyt2 on 09.15.08 at 11:03 am

#893 just.words Oh i know I was so mad he just laughed and laughed . #891 DancesWithPumas you know it would be a lot funnier (which I did laugh) if all you said wasn’t so true, it’s scary but hey his a hip hop new age wanna be president and he will have a cool government, makes you sleep good at nites huh…

#904 girlsrule on 09.15.08 at 11:07 am

#894 just.words…HILARIOUS, “a clown speaking on behalf of a clown”…I am rolling over that comment!!!!

#905 lilibet on 09.15.08 at 11:13 am

just .words:
That was Bill Burton speaking for the Obama Campaign from Chicago. Bill Hemmer helped to prove how ridiculous Burton was when he said that Burton had sort of answered some questions. He just could not get a credible answer from Burton. It was my thought that that Bill Burton and Bob Beckel are two of the “best” supporters that FOX could have on to support Obama. They were so ridiculous this morning.

#906 californiagal on 09.15.08 at 11:18 am

lilibet: new forum upstairs. come join us.

#907 prplvette85 on 09.15.08 at 11:46 am

#860 gojoyknocks-Thanks. What you can do for me is…don’t let him get the best of us. It is very depressing, we have been through a lot. But we cannot let this get the best of us. We have got to give our best succeed in NOT GETTING HIM ELECTED. If we all stick together and keep lifting each other up…we will be just fine!

#908 shampoovta on 09.15.08 at 11:48 am

Have to turn down TV Biden yelling.

#909 shampoovta on 09.15.08 at 11:51 am

Biden is load, like if he yells it it is true.

#910 Daniella on 09.15.08 at 12:02 pm

Why PUMAs Fought and Continue to Fight:
(video)

Democratic Presidential Candidate Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton strong armed by the corrupt DNC Leadership and the corrupt Chicago Political Machine’s very own Barack Hussein Obama. A sad, sad day for what was known as The Democratic Party, for All Women and for the United States of America.
http://www.CountUsOut.WordPress.Com

#911 hillstheone on 09.15.08 at 1:12 pm

factcheck.org

Somebody just referred me to this site, is this a credible site, anyone know?
Thanks for info!

#912 Notyoursweetie on 09.15.08 at 4:57 pm

NY internal party polls: PUMAs on the move!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/internal-ny-polls-show-puma-movement/

#913 john on 09.15.08 at 5:15 pm

Obama Has Issues And He’s Dead Wrong on All of them!

Empty rabble rousing rhetoric

This is the problem with blindly entrusting your future to an individual who has accomplished nothing of any consequence in his past. It’s not hope you’re feeling, its euphoric blind faith.

As is always the case with career rabble rousers (aka community organizers), the fact that they have never been in the game does not hamper their ability to talk a good game. Obama says that words mean something and without any deeds to talk about, he’s right. However, compared to action and real experience, or in his case a complete lack thereof, empty words mean damn little.

Read Entire Article: http://countusout.wordpress.com

#914 Mad Mama on 09.15.08 at 6:00 pm

Calling on all PUMAs…..

Alice Paul is under consideration for a Congressional Gold Medal for her work to help women win the right to vote.

Email, call and write to your Congress and Senate representatives and tell them to award the CMG to Ms. Alice Paul.

#915 TerryDo on 09.15.08 at 7:08 pm

I was blogging on another site and read this funny comment.

For all those who cannot vote for McCain and yet do not want to vote for Obama, the suggest is to write PRESENT IN THE BOX! lol

#916 GBPuma on 09.15.08 at 7:59 pm

“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is accusing his Republican rival, John McCain, of resorting to smears and lies to win the election. In a new ad out today, the Obama campaign quotes several media sources assaulting the GOP candidate and accusing him of running a sleazy campaign and repeatedly lying to the public.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK3Y1KPzW9k

My question is WHO is running the nastiest sleaziest campaign and ads?? From what I see it is Obama! Nothing from him is anything except whining and negative sleaze toward McCain and everything…………where are the issue ads that are important? all this mambypamby whining and negative sleaze is going to back fire on him again people are tired of the negative ads 24/7 from Obama……….I don’t think he has done more than 5 ads all year on issues everything is negative or whining otherwise.And this last ad here is just another piece of sleazy negative “WHO THE F*** CARES” nothingness again from Obama.

#917 zolo on 09.15.08 at 8:41 pm

It seems that sexism is popping out its ugly head everywhere, and in almost everything I am involved with. Help! A film I am getting ready to shoot (my first speaking role) is suddenly filled with sexist remarks from everyone and I stand alone. The band I play music in suddenly sees me different and thinks they can change my mind to vote for BO and I stand alone. Woman friends of mine are sending me smear emails about SP and I stand alone. My only friend through all of this is my republican mother who knows how women have always been seen as second class. Help! I want to get involved. I live in the getto in West Oakland so please don’t ask me to put a sign in my window. But I really would like to find other women who are awake and active. Where are the groups in the bay area? I love men, am married to one, but feel very alone with all of this.

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