The Puma PAC Slate for Each and Every State!

The Puma PAC Slate for Each and Every State

(Note: This is a work in progress. Thank you to Gogandalf and Trish and her Crack Team of Political Researchers. If you have any important objections or corrections to a slate, please let us know in comments.) We will be printing and mailing Puma PAC Slates to mail and hand out in Swing States starting in October.

These are the candidates Puma PAC recommends as deserving of your support on November 4th. We urge EACH AND EVERY Puma PAC member to go to the polls and VOTE on November 4th – PLEASE do NOT stay home.

Help us make sure the Obama Movement does not force its way into the White House and that the DONC hears our message LOUD AND CLEAR: There will be no unity in the Democratic Party until the voices of 18 million Democrats are respected and our votes COUNT each and EVERY TIME.

Use the slate for your state as a guide, but make up your own mind in the voting booth. We urge you to NOT vote for Barack Obama for president and to support as many congressional Democrats as you can. We also recommend that you NOT leave the top of the ticket BLANK. Write in Puma PAC or some other name or word, but don’t leave it blank. If all of our slates win in November, we maintain a healthy majority in Congress at the same time that we send Obama packing back to Chicago.

Notes: While we tried to withhold support for those elected officials who supported Obama against the wishes of the voters in their districts, that wasn’t possible or practical in every case. However, the most egregious instances of Super Delegate betrayal were duly noted, and those incumbents are NOT receiving our support.

*indicates incumbent.

NEW HAMPSHIRE

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Puma PAC
  • Governor:
  • John Lynch D*
  • Congress:
  • Jeb Bradley – R
  • Grant Boss R
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: One Democratic incumbent for Governor and Two Republican challengers for Congress.

NEW JERSEY

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Puma PAC
  • Senator:
  • Frank Lautenberg D*
  • Congress:
  • Frank Pallone D*
  • Bill Pascrell D*
  • Vince Micco R
  • R
Albio Sires D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Four Democratic incumbents and One Republican challenger for Congress.

DELAWARE

  • PRESIDENT: Puma PAC or 3rd Party
  • Governor:
  • John Carney – D
  • Lt Gov – Bill Lee R
  • Senator – Joe Biden (BO) D* (he’s going to need the job!)
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: One Democrat for Governor, One Democratic incumbent for the Senate, and One Republican challenger for Congress.

MASSACHUSETTS

  • PRESIDENT: Puma PAC or 3rd Party
  • Senator:
  • Ed O’Reilly D, or Jeff Beatty R if Kerry wins the Primary
  • Congress:
  • John Olver D*
  • Barney Frank D*
  • Patrick Murphy Ind
  • John Tierney D*
  • Ed Markey D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: One Democrat for Senator, Four Democratic incumbents for Congress, and One Independent challenger for Congress.

PENNSYLVANIA

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin (or Puma PAC if you really, really, really can’t vote R)
  • Congress:
  • Mike Muhammad – R

  • Adam Lang
R
  • Melissa Hart R
  • Tom Manion
R
  • Mike Doyle D*
  • Tim Holden D*
  • Joe Sestak D*
  • W. Craig D*
  • Paul Kanjorski D* 

  • John Murtha D*
  • Allyson Schwartz D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Seven Democratic incumbents for Congress, Four Republican challengers for Congress.

COLORADO

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin (or Puma PAC if you really, really, really can’t vote R)
  • Senator
  • Mark Udah D*
  • Congress:
  • Diana DeGette D*
  • Jared Polis – D – (replacing Udall)
  • John Salazar D* 

  • Ed Perlmutter D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Four Democratic incumbents for Congress, One Democratic candidate for Congress.

MICHIGAN

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin (or Puma PAC if you really, really, really can’t vote R)
  • Senator:
  • Carl Levin D*
  • Congress:
  • Bart Stupak D*

  • Dale Kildee D*
  • Sander Levin D
  • Greg Creswell, Libertarian

  • John Dingell D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Four Democratic incumbents for Congress, One Democratic candidate for Congress.

MINNESOTA

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Puma PAC
  • Congress
Tim Walz – D*
  • Betty McColum – D*
  • Keith Ellison – D*
  • Collin Peterson D*
  • Jim Oberstar D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Five Democratic incumbents for Congress.

MISSOURI

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Puma PAC
  • Governor :
  • Jay Nixon – D

  • Congress:
  • Robb Cunningham – Liber.

  • Chris Sander R

  • Ike Skelton D*

  • Emanuel Cleaver D
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: One Democrat for Governor, One Democratic incumbents for Congress, One Democratic candidate for Congress, and One Republican challenger.


TEXAS

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Blank
  • Hinojosa (D)

  • Reyes (D)

  • Jackson-Lee (D)

  • Ortiz (D)

  • Cuellar (D)

  • Green (D)

  • Lampson (D)

  • Walters (Lib)

  • Litoff (R)

  • Morovich (R)

  • Wood (R)
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Seven Democratic incumbents for Congress, One 3rd Party, and Three Republican challengers for Congress.

OHIO

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin (or Puma PAC if you really, really, really can’t vote R)
  • Rich Stobbs (R)

  • Marcy Kaptur (D)

  • Kucinich (xoxoxo, D)

  • Tubbs-Jones(RIP) Replacement,
Betty Sutton (D)
  • Tim Ryan (D)

  • Fred Dailey (R)
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Four Democratic incumbents for Congress and Two Republican challengers.

GEORGIA

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Puma PAC
  • Congress:
  • Hank Johnson D*
  • Jim Marshall D*–
  • John Barrow – D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Three Democratic incumbents for Congress.


FLORIDA

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin (or Puma PAC if you really, really, really can’t vote R)
  • Congress:
  • Allen Boyd D*
  • Kathy Castor D*
  • Tom Rooney – R
  • Ben Graber, Ind (switched from D to challenge Wexler)
  • Margaret Holstetter IND
  • Allen West R

  • Alcee Hastings D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Three Democratic incumbents for Congress and Two Republican challengers, and One 3rd Party challenger.


INDIANA

  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin (or Puma PAC if you really, really, really can’t vote R)
  • Congress:
  • Peter Visclosky D*
  • Luke Puckett
R
  • Gabrielle Campo R


  • Brad Ellsworth – D* 

  • Mike Sodrel R
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Two Democratic incumbents for Congress and Three Republican challengers,
  • ARIZONA
  • PRESIDENT: McCain/Palin or Puma PAC
  • Congress:
  • Ed Pastor D*
  • Harry Mitchell D*
  • Gene Chewing – R
  • Gabrielle Giffords D*
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Three Democratic incumbents and One Republican Challenger for Congress.


CALIFORNIA

  • PRESIDENT: Puma PAC or 3rd Party
  • Congress:
  • Mike Thompson D*
  • Doris Matsui D*
  • Lynn Woolsey D*
  • Ellen Tauscher D*
  • Jackie Speier D* 

  • Brad Sherman D*
  • Diane Watson D*

  • Lucille Royball D*

  • Jane Harman D*
  • Laura Richardson D*
  • Joe Baca D*
  • Loretta Sanchez D*
  • Cindy Sheehan – Ind.

  • Anna Eshoo D*
  • Dean Andal R
  • Zoe Lofgren D
  • Sam Far D
  • Dennis Cardoza (LEAVE IT BLANK, he’s unopposed)
  • Jim Lopez R
  • Adam Schieff D
  • Maxine Waters D
  • Linda Sanchez D
  • Pete Stark D
  • Mike Honda D
  • Lois Capps D
  • Bob Filner D
  • Susan Davis D
  • DOWNTICKET TOTAL: Twenty-two Democrats, Two Republicans and One 3rd Party for Congress.

 

865 comments ↓

#1 NObamaDem on 09.11.08 at 6:32 pm

Palin on ABC right now!

#2 NObamaDem on 09.11.08 at 6:32 pm

Oh my gosh! I’m #1!

#3 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 6:34 pm

Repost of Email from Alice

I recieved this email from Alice Germond, Secretary of the DNC, but the link page is blank:

Fwd: State Tally Information
Date: 9/11/2008 3:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: GermondA@dnc.org
Reply To:
To:xxx

Thank you for your interest in the State by State Tally of our historic Convention. You will find these publicly posted at:
http://www.demconvention.com/securing-the-nomination.

In addition, all delegations have now received copies of their individual delegate tally sheets. Due to privacy issues around posting signatures on the web, if you wish you to view them you may contact a state party to see a specific delegation or you may come to my Office at the Democratic National Committee to view all of the 56 Delegation Tally Sheets here.

Alice Germond
Secretary, Democratic National Committee
430 So. Capitol St., SE
Washington, DC 20003
202/863-7183

Alice Germond
Secretary, Democratic National Committee
430 So. Capitol St., SE
Washington, DC 20003
202/863-7183

#4 LandiPUMA on 09.11.08 at 6:39 pm

[Action List #1]

********************************
WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO
(& promote our PUMA-cause)
********************************

• – Make phone calls… – organize phone-banks –

• – Talk to others –> Canvass door-to-door –-> Give TALKS to groups. –->

• – Throw Anti-BO PARTIES or ‘get-togethers’ (w/ speakers, handouts, food & drinks)

• – Distribute flyers, brochures, info-handouts, etc –> Put up FLYERS/posters all over (esp. where they’ll do most good). –>

• – Display & distribute bumper stickers, buttons, yard/window signs, etc (“NObama”, “Dems for Mac”, etc) w/web addresses on them of PUMA/JSND/Anti-BO sites.

• – Write Letters to the Editor AND put ADS in major newspapers… AND… in local ‘free’ newspapers & magazines (found in Coffeehouses, bookstores, libraries, etc) . –-> Put flyers inside those free newspapers & mags.

• – Start & spread Viral Emails (w/ good talking points, like: “20 Reasons to NOT vote BO”) –> Forward all good, persuasive articles & links.

• – Post comments & links in all good Websites (like news-sites) that reach many people (Let’s list their addresses here!). –> Start your own Blog or Website or submit articles to existing ones –-> VOTE on Web polls

*************************************
>> FEEL FREE TO CONTRIBUTE YOUR THOUGHTS, OTHER IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS AND SPECIFIC *ACTION STEPS*… and also what you’ve been doing that’s working … &/OR what you’re willing to commit to!
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#5 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 6:41 pm

I think Charles Gibson is being a little shitty, he has got a scowl on his face. She is doing good but he is hitting her with some sh*t , ok now he is being more then a little sh*tty but she is still doing pretty good.

#6 antifish on 09.11.08 at 6:41 pm

Top Ten!!!

#7 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 6:41 pm

Repost from downstairs:
573 TexasTigress They might play it that way. However, it would be an even bigger blunder—I’m sure there were alot of people there today who also have sick children, sick directly due to the fallout from that viscious attack. People who’s children lost their very lives.
It’s NOT a political event—it’s a day of reverence for those who made the ultimate sacrifices. Her absence was a disgrace. What other word is there for it?

#8 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 6:42 pm

534 ladyhawkke
Would you mind very much copying and pasting the links you posted downstairs and emailing them to actioncenter@pumapac.org?

I believe we already have both lists, but just to be on teh safe side. Thanks.
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NOTE: The slate listed above will also be posted in the Action Center for future reference.

#9 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 6:43 pm

Palin do ok but the media wants her destroyed– the Bush doctrine got her

#10 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 6:43 pm

Gibson is being wayyyy harder on Palin than O’really was on XO ….

#11 LandiPUMA on 09.11.08 at 6:43 pm

[Action List #2]

**********************************
MORE WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO
(& promote our PUMA-cause)
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** MEDIA-related ACTION:
——————

[A]

• – Contact NATIONAL media (TV, radio)

— Email those pundits, reporters & show-hosts who are NOT in the tank for BO (they might be more open and willing to report on our cause and our views.)

— Pass along any good anti-BO and/or PUMA-related info or news-story or link for them to report or talk on.

——–
->> A few who are NOT in BO’s tank:

— Sean Hannity – http://www.hannity.com/contactus.asp
— Greta Van Susteren – http://gretawire.foxnews.com/ (her blog)
— Lou Dobbs – http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?9
— Glenn Beck – me@glennbeck.com or stu@glennbeck.com

* NOTE: Does anyone have a good email address for Greta?

— WHO ELSE WOULD YOU PUT IN THE ABOVE LIST of people in TV or radio who are NOT in the tank for BO?
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[B]

• – Contact LOCAL media (TV, RADIO, NEWSPAPERS), in key SWING STATES, to encourage coverage of whatever can help our cause.

— Pass along good info, talking points, links, etc… Tell them why you’re turning down BO, etc, etc..

*** Here are some email addresses of LOCAL TV stations (News Dpt.) in the key SWING STATE of PENNSYLVANIA

newsroom@thepittsburghchannel.com assignments@wpxi.com dbelmondo@wjettv.com aiannetta@wjettv.com bsheridan@wjettv.com fox43assignment@tribune.com DawnHensley@cbs21.com news@fox8tv.com news@wjactv.com programming@fox29.com tips@cbs3.com joanne.wilder@nbcuni.com

*** Here are some email addresses of LOCAL TV stations (News Dpt.) in the key SWING STATE of OHIO:

heather.pick@10tv.com jerry.revish@10tv.com andrea.cambern@10tv.com 19tips@woio.com morningshow@wkyc.com news@wkyc.com 5tips@newsnet5.com newsdirector@wlwt.com BreakingNews@wcpo.com news@nbc24.com wtvg.webmaster@abc.com news@WTOL.com bwhitney@wkyc.com news@wfmj.com

*** Thanks to TexasTigress for the addresses and for rallying us to contact local Swing State media. Look for her postings w/more swing-states info & contacts.
>>> The more of us do it, the more the chances that we’ll sway their reporting choices in our favor!

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>> ALL ACTION-IDEAS FOR WAYS TO DEFEAT BO!
——– ARE WELCOMED !!! ———
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#12 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 6:45 pm

Hi Tigress,
I agree. Also, I voted on your link & asked about said lawsuit.

#13 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 6:45 pm

i dont know but could it be possible that bill and obama met to discuss a possible hillary vp ?

#14 john on 09.11.08 at 6:46 pm

Governor Sarah Palin Replied, “In Readiness You Don’t Blink.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#15 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 6:46 pm

#10 TexasTigress ever since he got his a** chewed out for being to hard on poor BO in that debate he goes after anyone who is against BO tough now I swear. He is being really shitty to her now IMHO. Anyway Texas Tigress I was wondering what’s up you slacking , where’s my new email to sent? I did PA then OH who’s today????

#16 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 6:47 pm

REPOST from downstairs
hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 6:42 pm

NV PUMA,
Regarding delegates & accountability: we are on the same track, but maybe it takes a while to collect all the email addy’s? I’m not sure. I did email Murphy a while ago with a prowl suggestion for us to be contacting all of the Elections Officials, especially in the Caucus States, with our concerns about fraud.

That’s a little different than your idea of holding all of the delegates accountable who switched from Hillary to Obama even tho their constinuents voted for Hillary, but I think we’re on the same page.

Right on NVPuma, it’s all about holding them accountable.

p.s. still cracking up over yesterday’s prowl & getting to put my lip-print on that fax, lol…

#17 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 6:47 pm

The bush doctrine is a media creation. He didn’t nail her, she nailed him. Don’t blink obama she’s coming to kick your ass!

#18 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 6:47 pm

is obama running to hillary and bill to save his sorry ass?

#19 NObamaDem on 09.11.08 at 6:48 pm

She did well for her first major national media interview. Gibson’s being tough, but she’s giving it right back. I’ve a feeling that she’ll only improve with practice with more interviews and feeling more confident in her obvious abilities as a quick study. She’s got to be less political though and more direct in some of her answers though in my opinion, some hedging on foreign policy. I did like her answer that we should never lose site of the fact that energy is a base on which our national security rests and thus has significant foreign policy implications. Right on.

Biggest thing – not a single uh, uh, hum, uh… :lol:

#20 LandiPUMA on 09.11.08 at 6:48 pm

[Action List #3]

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MORE WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO
(& promote our PUMA-cause)
**************************************

• – Reach out to KEY VOTING BLOCS that can make a real difference in Nov., such as LATINOS, SENIORS, YOUNG PEOPLE, HRC-voters, WOMEN, Vets, gays, etc… ->>

• Some ways to reach these key groups:

– Latino community centers; Senior Centers, etc (put/drop flyers, give talks)
– Newspapers or magazines geared to these groups (send Letters to Editors, articles, put ads)
– Hispanic radio & TV stations (pass along good info & links, put ads)
– Hispanic food markets (put flyers)
– College campuses (flyers, give talks, etc).

*************************************

–>> ANY OTHER IDEAS ON WAYS TO REACH OUT TO KEY VOTING GROUPS?

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–>> SUBMIT *ANY* IDEAS ON WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO !!!
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#21 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 6:49 pm

18 osaka puma
is obama running to hillary and bill to save his sorry ass?
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Well, of course he is! Has he ever lifted a finger to save his own sorry ass? No!

#22 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 6:50 pm

Oh, one other thing, Texas Tigress. If you don’t have friends sending you emails to post things against Sarah Palin, consider yourself lucky!

PUMAblog = saying sane in a politcally insane world.

p.s. Also, very GLAD people aren’t trouncing on Bill Clinton. He knows more than we do, and I love to see him all happy & smiling again. You know he cannot hide it when he’s mad! ;D

Obama also had his arms crossed at one point, I don’t think Bill volunteered “for free,” lol…

#23 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 6:50 pm

yes no stammering, I think that counts for something

#24 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 6:51 pm

landi puma..
i hear ya but..

you propose to defeat obama but what are you offering them as an alternative?
are you urging them to vote for mccain and palin?

#25 LandiPUMA on 09.11.08 at 6:51 pm

[Action List #4]

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WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO
(& promote our PUMA-cause)
******************************

• – We’re compiling a running LIST of “Reasons Why You Should NOT Vote For BO”

• – These talking points can be used:

— in FLYERS & handouts
— to help us present our case when talking to others
— for anyone to copy portions and email them off to friends, to undecided Dems, among key groups (translated to Spanish for Hispanics), etc.
— to create your own VIRAL EMAILS & send them off!
— to gather & organize your favorite or most cogent & powerful talking points to carry them w/you & review them… so you’re always ready to persuade & convince!

*** Feel free to contribute TALKING POINTS or “good reasons” for our ongoing list of “Reasons Why You Should NOT Vote For BO”

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>> POST ANY ACTION-IDEAS FOR “WAYS TO DEFEAT BO”!
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#26 Blue Blue Gal on 09.11.08 at 6:52 pm

i am going to the first meeting to be held by my democratic precinct chair tonight. as chair it his responsibility to help turn our precinct blue. i just got off the phone with him – he thinks his responsibility is to get our precinct to vote for bo. i “gently” suggested that he needs to help the down ticket peeps – he says we will wait and see what the other guests think. when i go to my volunteer position tomorrow at headquarters i will be addressing his position with my field director if he does not change his stance !! anyway, i know i will be fuming and steaming all during this meeting, so i will thinking of all of you here thinking – blue, now hold your temper. and in addition, i have houston hurricane peeps showing up here, so i don’t know when i will be relate my experience.

#27 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 6:53 pm

Sly – I think he’s getting pissed that she keeps calling him “Charlie” – as far as the e-mails , there were only a couple of us doing them , and that’s not very effective . I never heard back from Murphy or anyone , so I just felt like I was wasting a whole lot of time . I keep re-sending the ones to Pa. and Ohio though . Maybe I will have a new one for you tomorrow :)

#28 IowaPuma on 09.11.08 at 6:53 pm

Phew! Got left downstairs talking to myself….LOL!!

Repost from downstairs…
#583 slyt2
LOL … I didn’t make myself clear in that first post. (picture me embarassed here) I was just trying to say I was just joining for today to excuse the fact if I was being repetitious with the link.
#588 hillstheone – I actually voiced my concerns about the caucus cheating by Nobama here in Iowa quite firmly to a DNC rep. (who is/was also on the DNC executive committee) at our state convention. I also let her know how incredibly disappointed & angry I was with the DNC & Howard Dean for not speaking out against the sexism against Hillary during the primaries & asked her to specifically communicate that message to Mr. Dean. She said she would. At her precinct, they checked everyone’s ID because of issues they were having with people who didn’t live in the precinct trying to participate.
All of this is to say, I’ve tried to communicate on some of the caucus fraud & agree that it should be done in a more formal way to actual elections officials.
I guess I should add that I personally witnessed cheating in our precinct & heard several first hand stories at the after-caucus Hillary campaign gathering in Cedar Rapids of others who encounterd cheating in their precincts. I think we were all extremely surprised & had no idea we’d be up against such underhanded tactics.

#29 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 6:54 pm

hi antifish,
Tell us what you know about Patrick Fitzgerald lately.
I love that guy, & I have not had time to read up!
He is REALLY brainy, and has a bachelor pad somewhere (Chicago?) where he never uses his oven. He stacks pizza boxes on top of it, however. And he cannot be bought.

See? I really _do_ try to keep up, lol!!

#30 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 6:54 pm

landipuma..you’re going to need to be more specific in your message because you’re only going to confuse them..

#31 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 6:55 pm

11 LandiPUMA I would be very careful about trusting anyone, including Greta. I think she leans toward BO.
But as with most, will probably go with whichever way the wind is blowing. I’m sure her job is more important to her than who gets elected.

#32 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 6:55 pm

#27 TexasTigress well I’ll tell ya if he keeps interrupting her and not letting her finish a sentence I’d be like LISTEN CHUCK. Yea that sucks about the emails I was happy we got one response back.. Ya let me know I’ll be happy to help maybe others will too.

#33 Rabblerouser on 09.11.08 at 6:56 pm

Charlie Gibson was a lot harder on her than anyone’s been on BO. I like the fact that she never stutters or squirms ala BO and she never looks away. Some of the questions were inappropriate – what does taking a trip around the world have to do with being a foreign policy expert? I travelled around the world, and I don’t think I’m an expert, though I didn’t give a speech to a crowd of thousands. It that what makes you an expert?

Also, doesn’t it occur to anyone that she’s running for VP and not President?

#34 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 6:56 pm

i’ll never forgive the clintons if hillary accepts VP with obama and helps him get the presidency…
if shes runs again for president i sure the hell will not vote for her

#35 antifish on 09.11.08 at 6:58 pm

Sent my previous email about Michelle to all those local stations in PA and OH. I just signed with my first name and chose a town in each state. My emails were from Pittsburgh and Sandusky. LOL!

#36 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 6:59 pm

I have to say – his BOMBARDING her on her “God” statements just helped her out with the right …

#37 Rabblerouser on 09.11.08 at 6:59 pm

OK, so she knows how to throw the BS too – all politicians should know how to do this. She sounds a little more convincing doing it than BO and his constant stuttering and squirming.

#38 antifish on 09.11.08 at 7:01 pm

#29 hillstheone,

Hey there! I wish I knew Fitzgerald a little better so I could convince him to file those charges instead of just dreaming about it. :D

#39 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:02 pm

35 antifish _ You ROCK !!!

#40 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:03 pm

The BEST way to defeat BO is to DEPORT him. Can we do that?

#41 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:04 pm

No school tomorrow . Hmmmmm I wonder why ???

#42 antifish on 09.11.08 at 7:04 pm

I’m watching Gibson interview Palin and he looks like he wants to kill her. What is his problem?

#43 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 7:05 pm

Palin handle the “God” questions well.

#44 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:05 pm

Palin was good…That God answer was really good if you look at it closely…She was just saying she believes in God and that we all hope he is on our side. It’s easier to wow people with speeches, interviews never really pack the WOW punch. She really was very good, very calm and measured.

#45 Notyoursweetie on 09.11.08 at 7:06 pm

Adding Eric Massa for NYC – please include him – he came to the count the vote rally in DC!
PUMA power in Florida!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/florida-pumas-from-14-to-25-mccain-almost-doubles-lead/

#46 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:08 pm

you know I think she was calling him Charlie a lot (she used that almost every sentence) because she knew he was being shitty to her and maybe being called Charlie makes him mad. Anyways I know someone here said not to waste time with Susan Sarandon because she is kind of a hot head but I just say her and her comment again and she is just a cold b*tch and “that’s all I’m gonna say” quote from her.

#47 zephyr on 09.11.08 at 7:09 pm

Think Palin held her own pretty darn good against
Charlie’s line of questioning. They are going after her as if she is running for POTUS not VP. After all this time the MSM has barely touched NOBO…except O’Reilly. She seems very confident and determined. I like her. She’s no wimp and I don’t think MSM is going to know what to do with that. Makes it easier for me to vote a McCain/Palin ticket.

#48 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:10 pm

slyt2, What did susan sarandon do?

#49 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 7:11 pm

he is being an azz..NOBODY HAS EVER QUESTIONED *61 About anything like Charlie is doing toher.But she is good and holding her own!! What an azz Charlie is!

#50 NJ1313 on 09.11.08 at 7:12 pm

Sarah did pretty good. Charlie really hammered away and she answered just as quickly. I’d like to see Biden and BO answer the questions. BO would take 5 x more time in his response ~ Ugh and Charlie would only cover 1/8 of his material. Sarah needs to slow down some.

#51 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:13 pm

You know we’ve all been sitting here wondering why MO didn’t go with BO today. Well it just struck me what the heck did BO do but go there. Joe Biden made a speech, Palin was making a speech for her son being deployed, John McCain was out earlier this morning shaking hands making speeches. BO had lunch with Bill then went to ground zero and didn’t say anything about today or speak to anyone.

#52 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:14 pm

send that sad ass clown biden to hannity and let see how he does

#53 LandiPUMA on 09.11.08 at 7:15 pm

Oska puma–

A lot of the action-ideas in my ACTION LISTS I’ve just gathered from the discussions in these comments boards… and from what people have suggested when I’ve posted my previous lists.

I gather the ideas that seem to have aroused most enthusiasm… or that just seem good. I try to distill them… make them simple to understand and apply, etc. That’s just a project I’ve taken on, in here.

In PUMApac we all agree that we’re not voting for BO… and defeating him is just one aspect of what we’re about.

#54 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:15 pm

well Michelle47 first this http://www.mollygood.com/sarandon-clinton-a-whiner-20080904

#55 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:16 pm

hi guys just wanted to know if there was no way to get hillary on the ballot by a petition I mean if enough people signed it in each state is there no way to put her on the ballot as an independent by petition. also I read abt this guy who changed his name to no vote or something thats the equivalent on the ballot in the usa and legally it stood and people had to get through a whole legal process to get him off and say those votes do not count for him since they were counted in his name so just wanted to know if there was no way to do the same with hillary i mean even if she said no but her name was on the ballot legally those votes would go to her I hope can some1 enlighten me

#56 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:16 pm

51 slyt2 – oooooohhhh – good point . Did he even make a statement ???? Maybe they are protesting 9-11 … hmmm

#57 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:16 pm

landi puma..thats not going to work with those latinos..
youre only going to confuse them..

#58 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 7:16 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoxkQUHZrTg

this is good on MO MO

#59 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:17 pm

Lou Dobbs said Palin did great in the interview, he says Biden better hit the books before the vp debate.

#60 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:17 pm

#592 I like the fact that she is honest abt who she is and what she believes in unlike b.o. I mean as I said b4 I don’t agree with her but at least shes honest and didn’t lie and say oh I’ve always been proud and then meanwhile its not true. so I respect her for her honesty and that shes a strong woman in her own right. I feel shes wrong abt her views abt the usa

#61 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 7:17 pm

I sent emails to the ohio papers and the ohio papers..how will we know if they are published ??

#62 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:17 pm

im happy to hear sarah held her ground and did well in her interview..God bless her..she has my support

#63 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:18 pm

#592 I also feel there has been sexism in the media against michelle …shes been targeted yet her husband gets a free pass. I’ve heard some media pundits even going as far as saying michelle would have an influence in her husbands loss and I was like wtf? now they blaming his wife another woman…what abt his flip flops on FISA, his voting records, his promises of change and then getting biden, the fact that HE can’t speak without a teleprompter that had nothing to do with michelle yet the media is always looking for a woman any woman to blame stuff on

#64 NYCStray on 09.11.08 at 7:18 pm

Couple more for the CA list:

Dr Durstin CD4

http://www.durstonforcongress.org/

Charile Brown CD3

http://www.charliebrownforcongress.org/

#65 maxgrader on 09.11.08 at 7:19 pm

# 34 osakapuma,

Hillary Clinton has already shown her devotion to party, not the people. Self ambition is no longer a relevent option. Therefore, she has nothing to lose now by replacing Biden as VP. It’s all or nothing at all this election year for the Democrats. If they lose then not even her own party will be relevent anymore.

BTW, Sarah Palin wowed me again tonnight. She has a solid unwavering mind. Seems well versed on world affairs and media ploys. “Charlie” is taking a back seat to her manner in my opinion. Turned on PBS after the abridged interview with “Charlie” and a BBC Washington correspondent thought she came off very well. Very well, indeed.

#66 john on 09.11.08 at 7:19 pm

Gov Palin didn’t stutter, she didn’t blink and she did NOT flip flop….All Leadership QUALITIES
Opposite of Oblah blah

#67 EWard on 09.11.08 at 7:19 pm

Please add my name to the donor list for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee – Donated $20

Charles Gibson is in the tank for BO. The only way this nonsense ends is Cupcake’s defeat in November. I was so thrilled to hear that Olbermann and Matthews were being demoted to analysts. Maybe, Gibson can join them in the dungeon.

#68 NJ1313 on 09.11.08 at 7:19 pm

I’m curious about Susan Surandon. I had my pic taken with her this summer while she was making movie with Pierce Bronson at the Jersey shore. Please fill me in. I know she isan activist and I believe she voted Nadar last time around.

#69 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:20 pm

#592 I was also really angry when I asked questions abt people saying palin should look after her kids then I asked didn’t the same thing apply for b.o on this other blog site and then u know what some people replied…that it was michelles job to look after the kids and I was like she was a successful lawyer who came out of a really struggling background unlike b.o. who lived a life of privilege shes the one who had the background in the a.a communities not b.o. now he gets to do whatever he wants and she must stay home and look after the kids …just made me so mad at the sexism sorry for the reposting ;-)

#70 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:20 pm

chrissie d…
i think youre way off on that one!
MO stands on her own merits and she is a mean spirited woman full of hatred for america and white people especially..

#71 NobamaNetwork on 09.11.08 at 7:22 pm

Nevada List

President and Vice President
McCain, John Palin Sara Rep

Representative in Congress
District1
Kenneth Wegner Rep

District 2
Heller, Dean Rep

District 3
Porter, John Rep

#72 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:23 pm

#56 TexasTigress NO he didn’t, he talked to a couple of people here and there like if you were at a party making your rounds so then you can say you came, you were seen and leave.

#73 heysandy on 09.11.08 at 7:23 pm

Repost from downstairs

#559 TexasTigress

MO deserves to be called out for not being at Ground Zero today. Today isn’t about politics, it’s about being an AMERICAN.

If you’re theory is correct; it just further brings to light their TRUE COLORS, which aren’t, first and foremost, RED, WHITE & BLUE!

GOD BLESS AND HELP OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

#74 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:23 pm

maxgader..you are an uncritcal supporter of hillary and that’s fine..I am not.. as far as im concerned if she helps obama get the presidency she can go to hell…i will never ever vote for her again..

#75 KR on 09.11.08 at 7:23 pm

You gals and guys are amazing, all of you. I’ve been lurking here for a few weeks and, as a disgruntled, disgusted and disillusioned (former) Democrat, I really appreciate the reality check that this blog provides.

The disgusting anti- Palin propaganda has now filtered down to even smallish town America. Our local “independent” weekly, “Cascadia Weekly” has been publishing anti -Palin tripe for the past 2 weeks, culminating in a drawing of her in the famous Marilyn Monroe wind-up- the-skirt pose.

What’s particularly interesting about this “pile on Palin” jamboree is that she is the _only_ candidate that has recieved such treatment. Not Obama, not Biden, not McCain. Palin and Palin only has been reserved for rough treatment.

To me, this is a flashing red light and loud siren signal that this country is absolutely in need of a Woman at the Top.

I am very worried that, if people vote Independent this time, Obama could/*might* win, much as Gore lost to Bush with the Nadar voters in FLA. eight years ago.

I think it is absolutely crucial that McCain/Palin win this election. And fear a repeat of the 2000 upset if people vote other than McCain.

Just my 2 cents.

Again, thanks to all for this valuable blog.

#76 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:25 pm

#65 maxgrader hillary has had a lot of principles during this whole media frenzy election I think I mean she refused to attack palin and she runs the risk if she doesn’t support obie or at least make a pretense of it now the dem party will blame her and he will then probably run on the ticket again and try to get the sympathy vote in the next elections since the dem party would claim hillary was the reason he didn’t make it. Obie will sink all on his own the last thing I’d want is for hillary to come out and attack him that way the media would blow it up (remember jesse jackson and co) b.o gets to make a speech and then he looks like the “positive one”

#77 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 7:25 pm

RE: INFO AT TOP OF THE THREAD

Thanks to all who compiled that data. Amazing! So much time and energy. Thank you! Thank you!

RE: HEADCLUNKER’S POST OF ALICE GERMOND STATS

Thanks for posting that Headclunker. Here’s what I’d like to know (first is for real, second is cynical):

1. How can we see a break out of pledged delegate votes from the overall total? Since we know supers could vote however they wanted, but pledged were the votes that should reflect the will of the voters, I want to see the pledged numbers so I can compare it to the numbers immediately following the primaries.

2. I wonder just what exactly was it about the convention that Germond thought was so “historic”? Was it the fact that they stole the election from the first candidate in history, and a woman no less, to win more primaries than any other who had come before her?

Sheesh and Sheesh.

#78 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 7:26 pm

61 Sunshinelvr

the ohio AND PA papers! :lol: did anyone get any feed back from the emails??

#79 jane-pa on 09.11.08 at 7:26 pm

nobama thank you

#80 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:26 pm

heysandy – I agree with you . I just feel like this is a trap – that’s all . It will all depend on how the MEDIA portrays it ….

#81 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:26 pm

#70 I agree with you I was just responding to the things murphy put up earlier abt finding positive things abt michelle. I was just saying that look she does have some positives but I’m in full agreement the negatives outway the positives.

#82 heysandy on 09.11.08 at 7:27 pm

Why are we supporting Sestak in PA?

I don’t think I can write-in PUMA PAC in a town of 5000. Everyone has a way of knowing peoples’ votes, and that would stick out like a sore thumb and possibly paint a target on my back,

#83 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:27 pm

michelle47 well I can’t find the other link but I guess she was asked about Palin and her answer was jesus was a community organizer (like BO’s shares the same job with Jesus) and then said someone else was a gov.then said that’s all I have to say and walked away. I want to find the link about it. She also said if McCain wins she is moving, well move lady your a washed up has been anyways.

#84 murphy on 09.11.08 at 7:28 pm

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#85 tec1965 on 09.11.08 at 7:28 pm

i dont think hill would accept a vp she belongs at the top period , they dont need hjill or her supporters remember !!! i hope if this assumption people are making about this is a reality i hope she tells him to stuff it

#86 jane-pa on 09.11.08 at 7:29 pm

why posatives on MO?? Did I miss something here. I am sorry if i am out of sinc here but I am posative I got a slap in the face and many other Americans too.

#87 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 7:29 pm

Hillary is doing what she needs to do to stay in good standing with the Democratic party so she can run in 2012. If you will notice she is not doing one thing more thing than is necessary. I do not believe she wants Bo to win if she did she would be campaigning more aggressively, please don’t give up on her, she needs us.

#88 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:29 pm

#72 slyt2 hmmmmm – so , in a sense , both HE AND MO boycotted 9-11 … I hope the conspiracy theorists take that and RUN >>>>>

#89 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 7:30 pm

This is what I sent out to news media.

Did anyone see someone missing today at the Memorial? What an embarrassment!
Michelle Obama could have been there to honor all those who have died on this tragic day seven years ago. Shame on her! Is this what she thinks of America? She’s never been proud of her country so I guess this would be too much to ask from her. I do not want to have that kind of First Lady in the White House.

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#91 heysandy on 09.11.08 at 7:30 pm

#79 Texas

It could very well be, and I know you feel as I do. But, if that’s the case, it will backfire down the line, IMHO.

As for the media, they can all go scr*w themselves; pardon my “PIG ishness”, but Nov. 4 can’t come too soon for me!

#92 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:31 pm

slyt2, Thanks…..

Who gives a flying fuck about anything these hollywood types have to say, I mean really.
That is the last place I would go for information about politics, who do these morons think they are?
And who in the hell would vote for or against someone, because of what the hollywood assholes think.
This makes me ill, honestly, do people really listen to these freaks!

#93 monap on 09.11.08 at 7:31 pm

Like the idea of the list of Dems in our states BUT….I’m still angry at those who didn’t side with Hillary and went with BO – I’m going to have a hard time voting for these ‘traitors’ in my mind. I understand the logic of wanting the Dems to keep the Congress to offset anything McCain et al may want to do – BUT…….

#94 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:32 pm

chrissie.. i find it quite amusing that someone would ask others to look for positive things in someone who would not feel any compunction or guilt at all in putting that persons people in ovens and pushing the buttons..
because make no mistake about it MO in her heart hates white people and she hates america..

#95 jenniforhillary on 09.11.08 at 7:32 pm

PISSED AS HELL and about to GET EVEN MORE FUCKING BITTER. BILL CLINTON is STOMPING for ZERO and PREDICTS BIG WIN!!!

CNN STORY WITH PICTURES. Clintons getting DAMN close to the UNDER DA BUS position….GOD DAMN CLOSE…..

LOVE PUMA…working too hard and hurricane in Texas so way behind on puma reading :(

Love to Murphy and all old and all new members…PUMA IS simply the only place where democracy has a chance…

STOP IT BILL. STOP IT NOW. It is not too late for me to ask for every single dime we donated when you ran for 1 year telling us how DANGEROUS, UNVETTED, and INEXPERIENCED this man was. ADDITONALLY, you QUESTIONED his MORALITY and JUDGMENT. YOU CANNOT SUPPORT HIM NOW without being PART OF THE PROBLEM….

#96 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:32 pm

#85 jane-pa on the other thread maybe I read it wrong oops. but anyway I just wanted to say that I think m.o. is very wrong on her stance on america since a lot of people in africa (where I’m from) would love to be in her shoes and the grass isn’t always greener on the other side sometimes one must thank god for what you have especially if hes given u that many blessings

#97 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:33 pm

88 Cassie – Is your dad getting out ? Where’s he headed ?

#98 Blue Blue Gal on 09.11.08 at 7:33 pm

Anna7000
it is possible to get the name address etc of the pledged delegates. every county’s democratic party has the pricinct info – in turn when the delegates moves up to state the state party will have the names of the delegates that were voted to go forrward to national. the national party ( which is where i believe you are being stonewalled)

#99 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:35 pm

90 heysandy :) LOL you always make me smile !

#100 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:35 pm

but I think they spent to long listening to a bitter man like reverend wright I mean how can that man even call himself a pastor; a pastor is supposed to uplift and give people hope not make them rage against other races and despair abt their situations esp if they have so much more than other people have but i think they let his negativity influence them I would be soooo depressed if I had to attend services there

#101 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 7:36 pm

I just read Murphy’s post. Yes, I do not post often because I type too slow and when I want to send it in, I get an error message. Very frustrating!

#102 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:37 pm

Hey cassie, it took me months to learn anything!

#103 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:38 pm

i reallly reallly reallly hope hillary doesnt do it and accept the VP slot to help obama reach the presidency.. thats a nightmare scenario as far as im concerned

#104 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:38 pm

#95 chrissieD I understand what you were saying but it’s sometimes hard to find the good in some people. But I do not believe for a moment that woman has ever had to stay home with those kids she is a career woman and does what she wants when she wants. I do not see her home baking cookies and cleaning house with those kids, not saying she never has though.

#105 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 7:38 pm

BlueBlueGal – I don’t want the names and addresses (I got that info). I just want total numbers by state regarding how the pledged delegates voted at the convention. I want to compare each state to how they were assigned to vote after the primaries were over. I want to see just how many didn’t uphold their moral obligation to honor those who voted for Clinton by casting their vote accordingly.

#106 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 7:38 pm

BlueBlueGal – I don’t want the names and addresses (I got that info). I just want total numbers by state regarding how the pledged delegates voted at the convention. I want to compare each state to how they were assigned to vote after the primaries were over. I want to see just how many didn’t uphold their moral obligation to honor those who voted for Clinton by casting their vote accordingly.

#107 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:39 pm

#93 osaka puma I agree and I think the o shouldn’t want to be potus if they hate america it doesn’t make sense to me it would be like applying for ceo at microsoft but you openly declare u don’t like microsoft and have spent 20 yrs working for apple or something

#108 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 7:40 pm

BlueBlueGal – Sorry, I just typed a completely incoherent post, but I’m flying out the door. Hope you can translate my chicken scrawl blog style!

#109 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:40 pm

The more I listen to all these pundits and wanna be pundits the more I wonder how in the hell I call myself a democrat. Some of these pieces of shit are really over the top! UGH…………………………………….

#110 murphy on 09.11.08 at 7:42 pm

jenni — how the heck are you??

a bunch of pumas were commenting on Bill and saying he looks like the cat who swallowed the canary (let’s see, Bill’s a puma and BO is a chicken!)

Maybe he knows something we dont??

Someone earlier pointed out that when Bill says that BO will “win big” in Nov it does no harm but it makes him (and Hillary) look good — positive, upbeat, and loyal to the party.

I think he KNOWS BO is a sure loser no matter what HE says, so he might as well take the “high road.”

osaka puma — settle down there! michelle obama is not about to put any people in any ovens. that’s hyperbole over the line.

#111 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 7:42 pm

Michelle47
Hi. I just learned something knew. Copy your message first before you send it. Saves alot of time. Yesterday I wanted to post to a few people but I always got an error message. I had to really shorten up my posts.

#112 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:43 pm

chrissie d ..im going out on a limb by saying this a very un PC thing.. but i truly believe that if obama gets elected it will create the conditions for a race war in this country that could potentially destroy the USA..
these obama are racists and full of hate..they are bad for america

#113 heysandy on 09.11.08 at 7:44 pm

Calm down jenniforhillary! I’m right there with ya, girl, but you’re gonna have a stroke!

Texas, good!

#114 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:45 pm

Please do this poll posted by BOBRAM earlier . also , above the poll is a box where you can ask a question or send the station an e-mail . PLEASE do that – ask whatever you want , many of us have asked about the Berg case …

267 bobram on 09.11.08 at 2:59 pm ATTN ALL PUMAS

Friend of mine in Penna just sent me an email to have all the pumas go vote on an important TV Channel 8 in Penna – poll is who could better protect the United States – choices – BO – John McCain or Neither —-
Help —–

http://www.cn8.tv/channel/channelhome.asp?lChannelID=617#

#115 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:45 pm

Just a little reality check:
Medicare and Medicaid are broke. Lehman Bros and WAMU are going down. Fredding Mac And Fannie Mae have already failed and the ‘government’ (taxpayers) is bailing them out. Others have already failed and the government came to their rescue. We are broke, with no income to pay for all these failures.
Does ANYONE have any idea how many nanoseconds we are away from total destitution? Have you all picked out the ghetto you want to live in?
Yes, I’m scared. NONE of the candidates have any clue how to fix this, let alone make anything better. I have to believe the Creator has the answer because nothing and no one else does. Burying my head in the sand of denial is not an option.

#116 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:45 pm

#103 slyt2 yep I hate it …I mean there are a lot of single dads out there I don’t know if u guys watched that show on oprah(yes I’m so mad at her for turning her show into an advertising agency for one candidate) but b4 she did that there was this one guy she featured that raised his son alone and they lived in street shelters and in the end he ended up making millions but he was determined never to give up his son. I think he wrote a book as well called the pursuit of happiness will smith stars in the movie…so I so disagree that people say women should look after the kids only they discrediting all the single dads out there as well who do a great job..and palin has a husband and she seems to be capable of multitasking she achieved more than b.o who only has two kids yet all he could manage to do was turn up and vote present

#117 antifish on 09.11.08 at 7:45 pm

#77 Sunshinelvr,

I got a couple of Out of Office replies.

#118 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:45 pm

texas..is channel 8 CBS,NBC,ABC?

#119 jane-pa on 09.11.08 at 7:46 pm

Chrissie I agree with all you say . I understand for sure. Osaka that is what got us here. If he wins or loses we may have trouble but better to have it on our turf not his.

#120 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:47 pm

111 osaka puma Thank God others see this.

#121 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:47 pm

Osaka puma #111 , If he wins? I am more concerned about it when he loses and I could care less if that’s politcally correct.

#122 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:48 pm

alice…i see it..i am not deluded with PC rose colored glasses

#123 kasota on 09.11.08 at 7:48 pm

I watched some of the Palin interview. She holds her ground against Gibson and does a good job. However, I can see where some of Obama supporters are going to take bits and pieces of her responses and attack her. She is a religious woman which is why she appeals to Christians and I can see Howard Dean just licking his lips waiting to pounch on her. Watch for heavy negative remarks from Obama campaign and supporters over the next week.

#124 sandipuma on 09.11.08 at 7:49 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_bill_clinton/2008/09/11/129854.html?s=al&promo_code=6A08-1

#125 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:49 pm

#114 Alice1943 and in south africa the news is saying that 147 banks in the usa are on the verge of going under. I don’t know if u read my earlier post where I asked if there was no way to get hillary back on the ballot as an independent if enough people in each state voted for her to get on the ballot since I read abt this 1 guy who legally changed his name to no vote or whatever is the equivalent and he received all the votes of the voters that ticked that option and there was a lengthy process legally to get this undone but it took a while. so basically i want to know if people tried to get a petition going to get hillary on the ballot could this be possible ? does anybody know..

#126 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:50 pm

99 chrissieD Rev Wright DOES uplift people nd give them hope. Just not US people.

#127 Blue Blue Gal on 09.11.08 at 7:51 pm

107 Anna7000
i understand what you want – now-
will think and dream on your request

#128 doria on 09.11.08 at 7:52 pm

Go vote Pumas. Gap is closing.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/11/aol-straw-poll-sept-11-18

#129 tillerylakelady on 09.11.08 at 7:52 pm

Are we just debating weather Hillary will take the VP slot or has something happened?
Last night Hannity asked Gov.Rendall if Biden was here to stay and he said that it was clearly Bidens Position. And then today on fox they were talking about it again,and the same question was asked and the Dem. said It would make Obama look like he could not make a precise decision if he switched VP’s in the middle of an Campaign.

#130 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:53 pm

Alice 1943

I hear and agree with everything you say….
We really are in trouble people, WAKE UP!

#131 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 7:54 pm

It’s getting a little heated in here (not anyone fighting I mean we are all getting heated over BO and MO) so let’s all take a moment PLEASE FOR ME and listen to this and remember today. http://www.brownielocks.com/godblesstheusaWAVE.html then we can go back to being mad…lol.

#132 jane-pa on 09.11.08 at 7:55 pm

no bomma thanks if I didnt get it in earlier I did see it thanks again.

#133 Blue Blue Gal on 09.11.08 at 7:55 pm

i am leaving shortly to go to the first meeting my democratic precinct chair is holding. as chair it his responsibility to help turn our precinct blue. i just got off the phone with him – he thinks his responsibility is to get our precinct to vote for bo. i “gently” suggested that he needs to help the down ticket peeps – he says we will wait and see what the other guests think. when i go to my volunteer position tomorrow at headquarters i will be addressing his position with my field director if he does not change his stance !! anyway, i know i will be fuming and steaming all during this meeting, so i will thinking of all of you here thinking – blue, now hold your temper. and in addition, i have houston hurricane peeps showing up here, so i don’t know when i will be share my experience.
think they would turn me away if i wore my puma shirt and bracelet? roflamo !!!!!!

#134 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:55 pm

94 jenniforhillary Amen!!! I have a REALLY hard time believing that Bill and Hillary are in any way as much for US and we have been for them!!!!

#135 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 7:55 pm

obamas meeting with bill today has me worried that some type of deal has been brokered that will rescue obamas campaign by taking on hillary as his VP..
thats very distressing

#136 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 7:56 pm

there were even ads in some of our local papers advertising mortaged homes in florida. it was selling for 250000$ which converts to abt R960000 which is not that expensive for some south africans its in fact cheaper than buying some places here in south africa that have higher prices

#137 tec1965 on 09.11.08 at 7:56 pm

hi guys i am wondering why massachusetts top only says either pumapac or 3rd party and no option for mcain /palin ?? just curious

#138 john on 09.11.08 at 7:58 pm

8 p.m. est tonight McCain and Obama forum on FOX

#139 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:58 pm

129 michelle47 I hate to be the one to say this, but Jesus said, in the Bible, that in the last days, people would be doing the same old things, living life as usual and taking their prosperity for granted and suddenly….it would end. He also said to beware and vigilant of the theif that comes in the night.
It’s way PAST time for us to wake up!!!

#140 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 7:59 pm

I do not buy for one minute that Obama will ask Hillary to be VP. It would show a tremendous weakness in Obama, even he is not dumb enough to showcase his inexperience by doing that.

#141 maxgrader on 09.11.08 at 8:00 pm

#74 osaka puma,

Correction… I’m a FORMER supporter of Hillary Clinton. I have found something better.

#69 chrissieD,

I must admit that Hillary has impressed me no end by finally drawing the line where attacking someone like Sarah Palin is concerned. She’s a lady of class and I would be extremely dissapointed in her (again) if she attacked Sarah Palin… especially given the fact Palin has credited her with deep appreciation for breaking that glass ceiling for women.

Although I’m not a supporter of hers anymore I sure wouldn’t be displeased if Ms. Clinton is president someday ( it might make me feel better too for giving away all that money to her campaign). But I think her endorsment of Obama this year has really messed things up for her career. It’s almost as detrimental as associating the Bush name with McCain.

My apologies to the Hillary die hards. I really do like that gal in many respects and understand the hopes and dreams she represents for the women who love her no matter what.

Remember, the main point to the puma claws this election year is to thwart Obama and then to reform the party. All it takes is enough women to vote against him on November 4 and the deed will be done. Simple as that. Obama can not win without the women.

#142 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:00 pm

michelle… how much i hope and pray that you are correct!

#143 EWard on 09.11.08 at 8:01 pm

Murphy – Response about MO

I am voting for McCain.

However, this is the way that I wanted to answer your question about MO. Any political candidate/wife that can withstand the unrelenting attacks in the age of the Web deserves my respect.

Ground Zero – I am not a fan of MO. However, if she had made an appearance at the Ground Zero ceremonies, her critics could have easily lambasted her for doing it for political reasons.

Our focus is to defeat Cupcake in November. The spouses and families should be off limits.

#144 prplvette85 on 09.11.08 at 8:01 pm

There is a presidential forum from Columbia University in NY on Fox news right now. John McCain up first.

#145 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:01 pm

What is this presidential forum bullshit? They will do anything for Obama to look good.
Obama debate McCain you chickenshit!

#146 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:02 pm

Ok, that’s it, Bill going rescue OB, what a flipping jerk. What little respect I had for him is now completely gone.

And Sarah was interviewed harsher than O’Reilly interviewed 61 (seems O’Reilly has a man-crush). NO matter what, Hill included as vp, I will never vote 61….

#147 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:02 pm

on 9/11/01 obama probably celebrated and thanked Allah for 911

#148 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:03 pm

#125 Alice1943 I disagree respectfully with u just on the reverend wright issue ;-) . I’m so tired of reverend wright and co using africa as a means to get their congregation to believe in them. reverend wright has never done anything for or donated anything to africa in a big way. its just lip service people like angelina jolie have done more for africa than reverend wright ever could and bill clinton who sponsored a drug to help malaria victims in africa that is going to save milliona, this reminds me kind of of obama spending 20 yrs in a church that claims to put africa first, but then obama conveniently forgets abt his brother living in poverty in the very africa the church and all its members are supposed to put first and doesn’t help him out. I hate it I’m so tired of people using africa and just talking abt it. and reverend wright is a hypocrite he makes money off poor people in the communities spreading his msgs of hate but then lives in an all white neighbourhood. people must wake up just because some1 happens to be the same colour as u doesn’t always mean they have your best interests at heart

#149 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 8:04 pm

HA , Bill Kristol just said it the media was out to get her, hence Charlie Gibson media. Brit Hume asked how she did they all said they were trying to trip her up, she didn’t fell into any trap doors. She was good. Juan Williams who i reported earlier is drinking the kool-aid now said she didn’t put anyone’s mind at ease with her answers but she didn’t have any gaffes..

#150 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:06 pm

sltt2, My mind is completely at ease, maybe they should ask me!

#151 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:07 pm

I mean wheres the orphan from africa that reverend wright adopted or the money he gave from that 15 million he got from the us government. no reverend wright like obama is only interested in himself and they’ll say whatever they need to say in order to get ahead

#152 Middle age female on 09.11.08 at 8:07 pm

Campbell Brown was talking about Palin and the inteview and saying that Palin wants to go to war with Russia, and that McCain said he did not, and there will be uproar over this.

#153 terrirobin on 09.11.08 at 8:09 pm


I don’t understsand the choice of Edward Lynch R to replace Robert Wexler. Ben Graber was a Democrat that left the Party to run as an Independent against Wexler. He supported Hillary Clinton and has chosen not endorse either candidate for president in the general election. http://www.graberforcongress.com
He has a much better chance of defeating Wexler than Lynch.

#154 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 8:09 pm

I just read the petition submitted to Pa Court by Attorney Berg. Everyone should. He has not missed any issue surrounding the country of birth, citizenship, and choice of fraud Obama. No wonder he says he is
a world citizen!”
The only way I will not vote McCainPalin is if this petition and its discovery reveals and receives a judgment of non citizenship and Obimbo is disualified and Hillary is candidate for President.
Any cute little moves about Biden going away and or other items with Hillary as VP does nothing to correct the fraud, thief, amoral
empty suit at the head of the ticket.

It is enough to have to watch her support this fraud, let alone resurrecting the whole VP fantasy again.

#155 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 8:10 pm

Confirmation No.: 271062
Contribution To: Sheila Jackson Lee U.S. Congress Campaign Committee
Contribution Date: 9/11/2008
Amount: $25.00
Contributor: Luanne Moore

Go Sheila!

#156 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:11 pm

campbell brown should do his homework and learn that obamas guru zbignew his foreign policy advisor is the architect in the elite policy formation group that WANTS TO DESTROY RUSSIA..hes written some famous books on how he thinks this could be done..so campbell brown is talking BS

#157 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:11 pm

like obama claiming to be aa and for the aa community but he voted against giving the hurricane victims in katrina aid palin actually voted for this so obama is all talk and no action or substance

#158 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 8:13 pm

#152 NewOleansPuma

First, Hillary replaces Biden. Then BO gets disqualified. The Hillary runs for President.

#159 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:13 pm

Chris matthews said she only gave responses she was trained to give and that her trainers didn’t do a good job . Pat B agreed with him ……. They kept bitching about her response to Israel saying ” We wouldn’t second guess them ” Charlie asked her the question 3 different ways and she said the same response . Like just because he worded it differently she should have a different answer … Assholes .

#160 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:14 pm

I am trying to find some documented sexism from the barack Obama campaign. I found one actual media coverage for his “99 problems” . This is really making me mad.. Especially the post ealier with the Susan Sarandon link…I have liked her since she was Damnit Janet

#161 bobram on 09.11.08 at 8:15 pm

#27 Texas Tigress – please continue with your project – I was lurking but sent mine to Ohio and Penna and I bet there were a lot of others of us lurking that did too – I think I counted 9 or 10 people who said that they had completed your prowl —- all it takes is just one of our emails to be chosen by someone

#162 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:15 pm

#159 bobram

I agree!

#163 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:15 pm

they are just used to BO’s often changing of answers and opinions… Don’t look now, they’ve changed again as I sat here typing…

#164 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 8:16 pm

BlueBlueGal – Quickly dashing in, then out again. Good luck tonight. More power to you! I’m sure you’ll do great. Have 100% confidence you’ll strike just the right balance between knowing what and when to speak and when to hold back. I admire you for what you’re doing, girl!

#165 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:16 pm

i give credit to john mccain for having enough faith in sarah to take on assholes like charlie gibbon..or whetever the hell his name is..

#166 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 8:17 pm

Since Palin’s name has come up again on the blog, I’m reposting a link that has a really insightful, thoughtful piece about her:

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/09/09/is-palin-a-law-and-order-candidate-this-veteran-feminist-sure-hopes-so/#comment-6442

#167 kasota on 09.11.08 at 8:17 pm

That didn’t take long. A part of Palin’s answer to the question of Russia invading Georgia would be to use military force possibly against Russia. Of course, that is in the NATO Chapter that all members of NATO must support other countries in NATO so if Georgia joins NATO, something Obama supports, and Russia invades Georgia, which it never will, then NATO is committed to helping Georgia, with or without military action…but ABC picked up the war with Russia sentence and that is their talking point….Palin supports War with Russia….LOL. It begins!

#168 ladyhawkke on 09.11.08 at 8:18 pm

I’ve been reading the posts regarding Bill Clinton and XO. The only thing I can think of is both he and Hillary have been promised something. The Clintons undoubtedly asked for something in return for their support. I do have a problem with that as for once, I would love to have a candidate stand up and quit lying. I’m tired of the lies. That’s why I like Nader. The truth of the matter is the only person qualified to run this country and get rid of corporate pork, save the environment, etc. is Ralph Nader. Too bad it’s a wasted vote.
I do remember feeling that the Clintons were using us to get their debt paid as when they found out people were still supporting them, Bill Clinton felt the need to send out an e-mail thanking us for supporting Hillary and then asking about that “pesky debt” and to contribute. That rubbed me the wrong way and I didn’t send anything in response to that e-mail. But we all did contribute the weekend of July 4th and I’d like to know once and for all how much all the Pumas and other websites contributed over the July 4 weekend. I know we contributed more than was stated.

#169 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:18 pm

I think that is the name of a monkey Osaka, but yet, it fits…. : b

#170 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:18 pm

158 Caracal Carrie

the comment that susan made about hillary is at post # 54 on this page..I do not know what other post you mean..

#171 murphy on 09.11.08 at 8:19 pm

hi Sandipuma!

#172 jenniforhillary on 09.11.08 at 8:19 pm

Murphy…miss you much!

I have to disagree though. I have been calling Florida and Ohio and LOTS of people are voting ZERO that I thought would NOT.

AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, Bill and Hillary telling Loyal and uniformed (95% of Democrats KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THE DNC HAS DONE) dems to vote for ZERO is DANGEROUS to us and America…

I think we need a prowl on the Clintons. I am crying as I write this and I love them like my own family but I cannot risk the future of this country and my family on ignorance, greed, and politics.

Alice, please give mountainsong my love. FREDDIE I think of you and I have been having puma parties and I always think of you.

#173 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 8:20 pm

Headclunker: No Headclunker, not for me. First, Obimbo is disqualified, removed forever, with no leverage whatsoever. Then, with all leverage, Hillary is at top of ticked and picks her own VP choice.

#174 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:20 pm

159 bobram

yes –these today and those yesterday (or maybe the day before?) :lol: :oops:

#175 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:20 pm

Falling behind!

#176 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:21 pm

like what the hell did charly gibbon expect from sarah??
for her to say..”oh yeah, we should kiss russias ass and let them take us down little by little”
:lol:

#177 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:22 pm

Sunshine

no that was the only post I am ssoooo disappointed in her..

The other part was me venting on trying to research for the site..Im trying to stay away from sites that are stickly NOBO for a lot of the content so the stuff I hav on there can’t just be brushed off. So anyway, I in my search for reactions from the media to the very wrong use of the song “99 problems” I get almost nothing.

Sorry just venting. Trying to add to the site.

#178 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:23 pm

McCain is doing very well on Fox. I like this guy.

#179 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:24 pm

mccain is straight up..obama is full of shit..excuse my french

#180 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:24 pm

I understand politics, but there comes a time when one must truly do what is best for the country instead of the party… I am soooooo unhappy with the Clintons, even though they know BO is fake, they continue to back him and even try to get him in the WH… And for Bubba to back BO on this day is the ultimate of disservice to our country… (seeing red to the Nth degree)

#181 bobram on 09.11.08 at 8:25 pm

#105 ANNA 7000 -

How they voted at the Roll Call

http://www.demconvention.com/securing-the-nomination

#182 ladyhawkke on 09.11.08 at 8:25 pm

Someone from LaRouche called me. I know he is somewhat of a kook but the woman said no one knows who the candidates will be, we still have 55 days left. She said Hillary could end up being on top of the ballot and both Obama & McCain will take the country down and also voted for the Dodd-Frank bill which they are trying to repeal. I forgot to ask, how did Hillary vote? http://www.larouchepac.com/ They are the ones who produced the 1932 video and the booklet about “George Soros, Your Enemy.”

#183 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 8:26 pm

Now is this like the last one BO is in a room can’t hear the questions and will be asked the same questions when it’s his turn.
#157 TexasTigress I’m telling ya the words out of Bill Kristols mouth was they were out to get her. Someone on fox also stated how he asked the question 3 times the woman on the panel said it was a trap and she didn’t fall for it.

#184 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:26 pm

Bobram

OMG thanks so much for posting that…it helped me a ton too!!!!

#185 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 8:26 pm

I will tell her, jenni.
To the other post above–I didn’t say anything about the people in Africa.
On another note, I’m starting to think this country is such deep doo-doo that it doesn’t really matter who gets elected.

#186 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:27 pm

Carrie…

I found one blog that talks about 99 reasons..does this help??

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/a-ludacris-obam.html

#187 murphy on 09.11.08 at 8:27 pm

jenni, that’s not good. I hear you.

We will be raising funds this weekend to get our Puma PAC slates for Ohio and Florida (and PA, VA, and CO) printed on cards to mail and hand out in those states.

Please take a look at the slates for OH and FL and let me know what you think?

Also, if anyone has any access to phone lists for Dems in the crucial states of PA, OH, VA, CO, and FL

PLEASE email me.

thanks.

#188 KR on 09.11.08 at 8:27 pm

#114Alice 1943

I’ve been following the financial news for 2 years like a hawk.
So I’m really clear on what’s coming.
There is nothing government can do at this point to “fix it”. The whole mess has got to unwind. There’s way way too much bad credit out there.

All we have now is a choice between an inflationary or deflationary depression.

What Congress has been doing for the past year and a half, with all the bailouts and a$$ ki$$ing on Ben Bernanke, Paulson and the Investment Banks and Wall Street will lead us into an inflationary depression.

This inflation has only just started to feed through and already has thrown many on the bottom rungs of society into destitution. Many small businesses are gone. Truckers hurting, etc. etc.

Inflation is an absolute killer for the average person. But it’s been a nice, unexpected bonus for the Banks and Wall Street! They’ve got Congress on their side! Lucky Folks!

Witnessing the Democratic Congress go to bat for Wall Street and the Banks this year ,while throwing the rest of us under the bus with inflation, is what finally turned me against them after 40 years of voting Democrat.

Until I found this blog, I didn’t know they were flaming sexists on top of everything else. Sheesh.

As to the list of “people to vote for” on this post, if you are concerned about the financial mess and still want to support democrats, there are THREE (out of 231 Dem. votes) who voted against the Fannie/Freddie bailout. One of them is Marcie Kaptur (sp?) of Ohio. Another was from Oregon and I forget the last. The bill was HR3221 if anyone is interested.

I called Marcie Kaptur after the vote and thanked her profusely for standing up for the people and against her party. It took a lot of courage to do that.

#189 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:27 pm

Osaka puma

Obama is not only full of shit..He is SHIT personified!

#190 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:28 pm

McCain said some colleges block ROTC,.. why?

My dad got his college $$ from his ROTC in the 60′s. Why would they block it from a college? A high school yes. college? Why?

#191 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:28 pm

#180 ladyhawkke is there no way to get hillary on the ballot on each state by petition as an independent I read abt this one guy in the states who legally changed his name to no vote or something like that and votes were counted for him they had to go through a whole legal process to get those votes overturned. I mean if hillary was on the ballot in every state and people voted for her what would this mean?

#192 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:28 pm

Obama is up now.

#193 sandipuma on 09.11.08 at 8:28 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105455&page=1

Hi Murphy how are you

#194 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:29 pm

Oops not yet

#195 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:29 pm

Carrie..

and this one

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_brushes_off_Ludacris_over_Hillary_0731.html

#196 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 8:29 pm

bobram – thanks. someone posted the link earlier. the problem is, they combine the pledged and the supers to get each state’s total. i want to see how the pledged voted, only, so i can compare to how they were literally pledged to vote after the primaries and before all the arm twisting at the convention started. i can’t find a place where the numbers of pledged and supers are teased apart.

#197 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 8:29 pm

Caracal Carrie What do you need I can help you look.

#198 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:30 pm

#183 Alice1943 oh sorry my mistake oops. :-) didn’t mean to get so defensive its just that everytime I see reverend wrights photo and preaching abt africa I see red

#199 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:30 pm

slyt2

NO, Obama can hear all his answers, so right now he is copying the good ones on his hand, and he will change a few words around and say the same thing McCain did.

#200 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:31 pm

Thanks so much sunshine!

#201 murphy on 09.11.08 at 8:31 pm

Shampoovta, because so many kids (and their parents) at private college suffer from what Riverdaughter brilliantly calls, AFFLUENZA. They are SO protected and sheltered from the dangers, sacrifices, and compromises of the real world that they believe even the CONTEMPLATION of military service is disdainful and BENEATH them.

It should be against the law for private institutions to prevent ROTC from campus.

#202 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:32 pm

Carrie..
Are these links what you wanted?

Here is another one..

http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/clinton-supporters-demand-obama-denounce-ludacris

#203 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:33 pm

Murphy…

Amen!

#204 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:33 pm

alice.. unfortunately liberalism which at one time was progressive has mutated into a twsited virus that has spawned millions of self hating destructive fools who have turned anti americanism into a cottage industry..
look at all those millions of damn fool obama kool aid drinkers who applaud and cheer on anything that puts down america..
what these fools dont realize is that we live in a dangerous world with dangerous enemies out there who want to destroy america,her way of life and everything she stands for..
all those spoiled rotten self-satisfied well fed obama morons dont realize that they are helping enemies out there who would have them like slaves living the same life as a peasant in calcutta ..damn fools!!

#205 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:33 pm

And you are so welcome ..Glad to help..want more?

#206 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:33 pm

#183 Alice1943 sorry abt that. I forgot abt those groups in the middle east who endorsed b.o. also i wanted to know that it says b.o has been a christian for 20 yrs I read an interview with his sister that said she was upset “because the man has been a christian for twenty years”. so if obama is 45 now 20 yrs ago would have meant he was 25 when he became 1 what was he then at 25 (faith wise) and b4 25 does anybody know…?

#207 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:33 pm

Sly

I am trying to find references to the sexism and well basically all of the bad behavior on Obama, but the key is..I am trying to stay away from Nobama sites. Just so the info can’t be dismissed out of hand.

This would probably be a lot easier if I didn’t drink the Kool aid the whole first six months of the year…

Thanks God for you guys

#208 Grizzly on 09.11.08 at 8:34 pm

Old Charlie needs to do a little more homework:

“GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” Are we fighting a holy war?

PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.”

GIBSON: Exact words.

What Palin actually said:

“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

Gibson’s questions looked like they were based off the AP half truths that were debunked a week or so ago. Charlie came out of the gate trying to paint Palin as some religious zealot. A “Holy War”?

I think Pakin did fine, but Gibson looked like he was out to do a hatchet job. That looking down the nose at her ahd the little sigh was a bit much. Made Charlie look like he is intimidated by a strong woman.

#209 LeeinUSA on 09.11.08 at 8:34 pm

Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:45 pm Just a little reality check:
Medicare and Medicaid are broke. Lehman Bros and WAMU are going down. Fredding Mac And Fannie Mae have already failed and the ‘government’ (taxpayers) is bailing them out. Others have already failed and the government came to their rescue. We are broke, with no income to pay for all these failures.
Does ANYONE have any idea how many nanoseconds we are away from total destitution? Have you all picked out the ghetto you want to live in?
Yes, I’m scared. NONE of the candidates have any clue how to fix this, let alone make anything better. I have to believe the Creator has the answer because nothing and no one else does. Burying my head in the sand of denial is not an option.
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And BO wants to ADD National Healthcare to the mix! The government cannot even manage SS & Medicare but HE, the MESSIAH, wants to add more to the mix!!!

And, take about 55% of our pay in taxes!!

#210 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:34 pm

Mc just said he would have xo in the cabinet … I hope he meant in the kitchen cabinet !

#211 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:36 pm

Anything You got will be great sunshine.

If you want to go look at the site and see which areas I haven’t finished it may help..

http://puma-facts.com

I have to get just a bunch of stuff and try to put it together to make sense. So I am collecting links and reading what all they say and trying to make an article about them, then I include a few of the supporting links with it. If that makes any sense.

#212 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 8:36 pm

#189 shampoovta hmm lucky me McCain is still on here it’s not BO’s turn…lol..
#196 michelle47 you know I almost wish he was copying down his answers so he wouldn’t have to uhhh uhhh so damn many times and well I , let me be clear,,, I I I will I ummmmmmmm

#213 antifish on 09.11.08 at 8:38 pm

#207 TexasTigress,

He meant the closet.

#214 chrissieD on 09.11.08 at 8:38 pm

#204 Caracal Carrie has anybody done an interview with alice palmer maybe to find out her side of the story and what actually happened when obama took her off the ballot and if there were any nasty rumours started by people that supported obama back then. that seems to be o’s m.o the only way he wins is if he is running unopposed and one of his supporters spreads rumours abt the opposition

#215 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:39 pm

number one, some of these orginizations need to fall, the gov doesn’t need to be in the rescue business bizz. The Fannie and Freddy dump was cause by Dems who wanted everyone and their neighbors to own a home, whether or not they were qualified. And now we are going to have to pay for it…

#216 normapapuma on 09.11.08 at 8:39 pm

Yes, McCain’s doing well on tv! I want to repost from downstairs:Obama said he used the pig phrase in reference to McCain’s positions (pig) being dressed up with Palin’s likeability (lipstick): So he thinks the choice of words is appropriate??? Please! NOT!
(Hey,Obama, Spare us your obnoxious hypocritical excuses! We are educated women and we know a dirty,slimy,sexist,misogynistic remark when we hear and see it!) I hope this election is OVER. I don’t think he will win, so the Hillary scenario discussed earlier will not be likely. I saw BO say he’s “putting” Bill to work, as if Bill Clinton has nothing to do. Arrogant. Personally, I pray that Bill and Hillary will return to the helm after the election. Supporting Sheila is a good way to help.

#217 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:39 pm

210 antifish :) I wrote a whole bunch more , but I had to delete it before I posted it so I wouldn’t get in trouble …. :)

#218 maxgrader on 09.11.08 at 8:40 pm

If I respected Bill Clinton the way I used to I’d say his “prediction” of Obama winning this election “handily” would be be most annoying. But, I don’t get annoyed that easily anymore.

As it is now all he ever says sounds like a cartoon from the Sunday funnies. Being associated with Obama has tremendous drawbacks and Bill is not the Bill I once knew because of that association.

What a lousy election year this has been for the Democrats!

#219 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:40 pm

number two, putting a business on life support provided by the gov is not practicing our so called Free Market Plan.

#220 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 8:41 pm

208 Caracal Carrie

okay > I gotcha ya! Look for the more solid , reputable sites. Ones that can not be dismissed as just some PERSON’S opinion…so , maybe some of those links I found may not be so great :oops: but I will help ..And try to do better!

#221 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:42 pm

Ya my dad became a city supervisor and just retired recently. Not just my family has benefited from ROTC. His leadership skills and college education helped to repair our run down infrastructure in this town. He also worked with Audubon to help save The Least Tern. He couldn’t afford college we are from the hills son. WE ARE THE HILL BILLYS. ROTC helped my family BIG time.
PS: Mom said he had the loudest voice on the base. I have that voice to.

#222 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:43 pm

I don’t trust either party, that’s why I have never been in either party, but have always been an Ind. Voter.

#223 chicagoroadrunner on 09.11.08 at 8:44 pm

Oops — I posted this below. I just finished making my donation to Shelia Jackson Lee’s campaign. I hope she wins! I hope Ed O’Reilly wins in MA!

#224 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 8:44 pm

Carrie I found a good one mail it or post it.

#225 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:45 pm

Chrissie

I haven’t found one yet. I just read the article about how all of that went down and have started doing the research. I have reached out to a lot of the actual people involved. I will see about reaching out to her.

#226 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 8:45 pm

#214 TexasTigress:

Did you get the email from that publisher?

#227 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:46 pm

yay sly! Mail it so I can keep it!

witchway2go@hotmail.com

#228 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:46 pm

ericka..all these bail outs are going to be paid by guess who???
the fed will be running the printing presses overtime and the dollar will become almost worthless,inflation will kill us all..just go shopping and tell me im wrong

#229 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:47 pm

Sunshine

Your always an angel and all of the sites are definately educating me!

#230 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:47 pm

wontbackdown – they had already sent it to the E

#231 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:48 pm

I am watching McCain but I can not stomach watching Obama….Hope he screws up royally…He doesn’t know what service is…..We need patriots now…We need millions of Sarah Palin’s to step up, I really believe that!

#232 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 8:48 pm

McCain does well in forum settings. He is pragmatic, I am a Dem but appreciate the fact at times simple answers and solution work.

#233 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 8:48 pm

:D

#234 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 8:49 pm

michelle47..
God bless you my fellow American!

#235 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 8:49 pm

Five more for your Murphy – how say you?? Up for re-election in November -

VIRGINIA
All for BO
Bobby Scott – William Grogan – Ind/green
Jim Moran – Mark Ellmore – R
Rick Boucher – Tom WIlliams – Ind/green

WASHINGTON
Gov – Christine Gregoire – D – BO – Dino Rossi R
Congress
For HRC
Jay Inslee – Larry Ishmael R
Norm Dicks – Doug Cloud R
Und – Rick Larsen – Rick Bart R

BO
Brian Baird – Michael Delavar – R
Jim McDermott – Steve Beren R
Adam Smith – James Postma R

WEST VIRGINIA
Gov – Jim Manchin – D – BO – Russ Weeks R
Sen -
JAY ROCKEFELLER – BO – $5K – Jay Wolfe R ***************************
Congress
Nick Rahall D – BO – Marty Gearheart R

WISCONSIN
Cong – Tammy Baldwin – D* HRC – Peter Theron R
remainder for BO

Ron Kind – Paul Stark R
Gwen Moore – Mike La Forest – Independent
Dave Obey – Dan Mielke R
Steve Kagen – John Gard – R

OREGON – Congress
David Wu D* BO – Joel Hangen R
Earl Blumenaner D* BO – Delia Lopez R
Peter De Fazio D – und – Jaynee Germond (Constitution)
Kurt Schrader D – Mike Erickson – R

#236 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:50 pm

(((((wontbackdown))))) LOL

#237 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 8:52 pm

yes Osaka, we have already bee paying for all of the previous bailouts… Instead of just bailing out banks and such, we should be putting money in re-tooling our industries and in our roads,sewers, power-grids and such…. (heavy sigh)

#238 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 8:53 pm

#40 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 7:03 pm

The BEST way to defeat BO is to DEPORT him. Can we do that?
—————–
:lol: of course you can Alice1943! I don’t know if it’s a legal issue but H@ll, nothing about this election is legal concerning O’no

#239 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 8:53 pm

Caracal Carrie ok you got mail I gotta run to the store let me know how ummm well let me be clear,,, uh uh does..

#240 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 8:53 pm

This is being held at BO’s alma mater? Hello?? Also, they don’t want ROTC there because they would be trained to go into areas they are FROM. Also, this university is known for many activist groups!! They will be applauding BO all through his speech – he will say “Hello” and they will come unglued!!!!

By the way, good evening Pumas!!

#241 normapapuma on 09.11.08 at 8:54 pm

Hillary will be campaigning in PA for the One. Ive been to her rallies in the past, but I will not go see her helping BO. I will vote for McCain/Palin and pray that they have a wonderful administration. I hope the Clintons will work with the McCain administration for our country and not make partisanship their trademark. I just want to kick BO off the national scene.

#242 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 8:54 pm

Osaka

God bless you also my fellow American!

#243 KR on 09.11.08 at 8:54 pm

#181Ladyhawke

Unfortunately, when it came time for the Senate vote on the Bailout Bill, ALL of them, McCain, Obama and Hillary did not vote!

This ability on the part of our representatives to _not _vote_ is something that should be taken care of if we’re serious about doing a sweep of DC corruption, IMO.

#244 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:54 pm

Me and McCain are like sympatico. I so just said the same thing. Service inspires. Milliary or Volunteer both weave harts in to one. Familiarity is found in a common cause.

Just like Puma

Commitment

“There are only 2 people of worth in this world.
People with the commitment and people who require the commitment of others.”

1776

#245 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 8:55 pm

#233 TexasTigress

That little temper tantrum could be making you some bucks right now. Too bad it’s in the trash can.

:D

#246 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 8:56 pm

Emil Jones??? Helped to get him into politics, etc??

#247 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:57 pm

Obama.

Suck UP!

#248 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:57 pm

241 wontbackdown – You kill me . One of these days I am going to go back and find the ORIGINAL “E” conversation from the begining to end and post it just for you !!!! :)

#249 Middle age female on 09.11.08 at 8:57 pm

BO said he had the home court advantage, since this was his alma mater. Wow – that sure shows impartiality.

#250 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 8:57 pm

If Obama didn’t have hands he couldn’t talk….geez.

#251 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 8:58 pm

Uh did Obama just rip off joe lieberman?

#252 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 8:58 pm

240 shampoovta That’s very nice what you said!

#253 Middle age female on 09.11.08 at 8:59 pm

Since BO could hear the questions and answers, he already has his talking points ready – but still stammering.

#254 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 8:59 pm

#244 TexasTigress

Just send it to the “EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”

:D

#255 normapapuma on 09.11.08 at 9:00 pm

#228 I agree. I’m switching tv. I wonder if the obamamanic press will ask if BO was kept in a sound proof room since he’s being asked the same questions?
Last night CNN’s Anderson kept asking Can all this interest in Palin CONTINUE?

#256 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:00 pm

Uhm,…and,…uhmm,….one girl has orgasm,…wwwooww,..and,…

Oh Obama.

#257 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:00 pm

Quick, get the lipstick! Some Bot just made a pig squeal about something BO said.

#258 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 9:01 pm

Carrie..sent a few links by email..just a tip..if you get a link you want to keep .copy it ..put it on your computer in notepad or wordpad.. then you can acess any time you want to.. you probably know this already..

#259 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:01 pm

citizenship=legal birth certificate

#260 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:02 pm

he probably had his blackberry in his pocket….one a cheater, always a cheater

#261 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:03 pm

He was at the University this morning during the opening 9/11 ceremonies. I believe Biden went to an exclusive “by invitation only” affair.

Also, in 9/11/01 we were NOT in a gas crisis!! Need to listen to these words….just words….. how dare him use 9/11 for his agenda!!

#262 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:03 pm

Oh, is he going to tell us about his civilian army?

#263 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:03 pm

#215maxgrader: Well, maxgrader, I feel as you do. Not what any of us expected..

#264 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 9:03 pm

Goodnight. “Hunker Down, Houston” – and make sure the pets are all safe too!

#265 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:04 pm

Is he said any thing? It goes in and out. like it starts to sound good and then it is back to American spirit and vagueness.

#266 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:05 pm

BO

Please show your birth certificate! The Columbia University audience is a BO site! Is ACORN there?

#267 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:05 pm

wontbackdown see ya tomorrow – Ike not supposed to come in until tomorrow night :)

#268 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 9:06 pm

Commander in chief…Comands the greatest military the world has ever seen, keeps AMERICA safe and inspires other nations to want to follow our lead…

I am a big Hillary supporter, but I sometimes think military service should be a MUST in order to command the greatest military men and women…Their love of country is amazing.

#269 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 9:06 pm

Judge Judy says uh is not a word

#270 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 9:07 pm

Sunshine

Yup thats what I am doing!, But I had a bunch off of the page..which when I had to restore my computer to factory settings because it got possessed…I lost em all…

So the ones in my email are safe!

#271 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:07 pm

We do not need a so called civilian Army: we have the National Guard..
that is the National Guard…What he wants is an internal sercurity force which he can cross train and use to control any opposition in the country to his fascist/socialist agenda. This guy is a despot.

#272 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:07 pm

258 antifish I bet he talks about it – he’s off the charts! Here we go – different question!!

#273 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:07 pm

the commentator is a scum, he is rewording and trying to do highlights, when they take comments out of the whole, they remove the context of what was said… think he has sipped of the koolaid…

#274 normapapuma on 09.11.08 at 9:09 pm

Headline News-Glen Beck is criticizing BO campaign as SEXIST and OFFENSIVE. Women are being driven to McCain…
Yes, especially to PUMAS.
Have to make money in am. Good night, PUMAs.

#275 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:09 pm

The future president is out there some were fighting in Iraq or some future struggle. I can’t wait to see that.

That is exciting.

#276 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:09 pm

BO cannot talk without “Uah”. I mean, at least every other sentence! My mother would have slapped him in the back of his head.

NOBAMA

#277 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:10 pm

BO would be a disaster for our economy. That is a lie that he wouldn’t have to scale back his community service programs.

#278 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:11 pm

270 normapapuma Make sure you save up enough $$ for your tire gauge – get a warranty!

#279 Asian4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 9:11 pm

I knew its just a matter of time, the Democratic Party is shitting bricks now.

====

Democrats on Capitol Hill fear Obama fallout
By Andrew Ward in Washington

Published: September 11 2008 23:30 | Last updated: September 11 2008 23:30

Democratic jitters about the US presidential race have spread to Capitol Hill, where some members of Congress are worried that Barack Obama’s faltering campaign could hurt their chances of re-election.

Party leaders have been hoping to strengthen Democratic control of the House and Senate in November, but John McCain’s jump in the polls has stoked fears of a Republican resurgence.

A Democratic fundraiser for Congressional candidates said some planned to distance themselves from Mr Obama and not attack Mr McCain.

“If people are voting for McCain it could help Republicans all the way down the ticket, even in a year when the Democrats should be sweeping all before us,” said the fundraiser, a former Hillary Clinton supporter.

“There is a growing sense of doom among Democrats I have spoken to . . . People are going crazy, telling the campaign ‘you’ve got to do something’.”

Concern was greatest among first-term representatives who won seats in traditionally Republican districts in the landslide of 2006. “Several of them face a real fight to hold on to those seats,” the fundraiser said.

Tony Podesta, a senior Democratic lobbyist, said members of Congress were “a little nervous” after Mr McCain shook up the race with his choice of Sarah Palin as running mate and intensified attacks on Mr Obama.

“Republicans have been on the offensive for the past two weeks . . . You don’t win elections on the defensive.”

The campaign manager for a first-term Democratic congressman from a blue-collar district in the north-east rejected suggestions that Mr Obama had become a liability. He said his candidate would reach out to Republicans and avoid attacks on Mr McCain.

I’ve said this a long time ago, if NObama is the nominee for the Democratic Party, there would be a domino effect down the the line for democrats running for office this November.

#280 kasota on 09.11.08 at 9:11 pm

# 205 Grizzly – I totally agree with your take on the interview!

#281 NVPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:11 pm

RE: #381 from downstairs
Wow, that’s what I’m talkin about!
Are we keeping this posted and is there anything I can do to help?
Dances knows my email, I don’t and can’t spend all that much time on the blog these days-my doggie had puppies a month ago and it’s like having a new baby-that can walk and doesn’t wear a diaper.

And, brobam #433 if you’re around, thanks for the NV media idea. I’ll collect all my contacts and post ‘em, posted some last friday.

Gotta go cook dinner but I’ll check back later.
Thanks to all that replied to my post-don’t blog much and you made me feel at home!

#282 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:12 pm

antifish – there’s his national guard – college for service!!

#283 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:12 pm

Role of government – Look to the future – Chicago style politics?

#284 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 9:12 pm

Headclunker

I am a mother I would gladly slap him upside the head
But then I would not be able to stop slapping the shit out of him….

#285 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:12 pm

Serve doing what? Who organizes that? Will it be expensive?

I feel my pocket being picked.

#286 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:13 pm

BO is a very poor speaker. He is making alot of plans for individuals that may not even elect him. He obviously thinks the government should direct the people, instead of people running the government.

#287 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 9:13 pm

I am so bias , Obama could be doing great and I would hear nothing but uh uh. Tell me is he doing well?

#288 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:13 pm

now he is going off on education, I am a teacher, the biggest problems are the administration, the gov, and lots of parents who do care until their “little billy” is failing. Take away their damn X-boxes and such, have them go to be early, take away all of the crappy junk food and then I might have a greater chance to help the kids. Also, teachers now have so damn much extra work to do, the paper work is never ending and sucks up quite a bit of after hours time. Also, we have to keep going to school ourselves and we have to pay out of our own pockets. In AZ, we are forever on one-year contracts, so they can boot us any time…. People don’t realize….

#289 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:13 pm

why does the moderator keep giving BO McCain’s answers? Fair….iiiiiiiiii…..donnnnnn’ttt thiiiiiiiiiiiiiink sooooo….uuuuuuuhhhhh…..iiiiiiiiiii.

#290 NVPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:13 pm

#275 Asian4Hillary
HAHA! Woohoo!!!!!!!

#291 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:14 pm

Hey..Headclunker: I like your mama!

#292 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:14 pm

280 michelle47…………llllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooolllllllllll

#293 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:14 pm

he got to listen, and now he gets reminders, how great is that…and still he suckssssss

#294 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:15 pm

Clean energy core?? Senior?? What??

#295 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:15 pm

Government expand – how do you pay for these things?

President willing to inspire – President McCain

#296 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:15 pm

#275 Asian4Hillary

I Love it!

#297 normapapuma on 09.11.08 at 9:15 pm

#274-Yeah, tire gauge and a TUNE UP. What an idiot!
Go McCain/Palin!

#298 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:15 pm

281 shampoovta $4,000 a year for college in return for national service – your tax $$.

#299 Asian4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 9:16 pm

BTW, the news is from Financial Times

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6c2f69ce-8031-11dd-99a9-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

#300 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:16 pm

#284 erickaAZ

I do. I got your back. Classified Employees ROCK!

#301 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:16 pm

#232 {{{Gogandalf}}}}

I am confused about the top post list and just getting back on the blog, so sorry if it has already been discussed.
1- Why do some states have McPalin and others have none or PumaPac
2- Why are some Repubs listed at all on the down ticket? Is it because they are running against Hillary betrayers?

#302 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:17 pm

Michele47: Hey Michele..let’s hear it for another mama who knows how to straighten out scrambled brains!

#303 Mary Beth613 on 09.11.08 at 9:17 pm

Biggest thing – not a single uh, uh, hum, uh… oh gosh, i can’t remember who said this, but I’m still LOL
Can’t wait to see the interview..coming on in 5 minutes

#304 mlhath on 09.11.08 at 9:18 pm

Thr Clintons are hardly campaigning for Obama at all. They are doing the least amount that they can do to still stay in the party. There is no viable third party, so in order for them to get anything accomplished, they have to play with the hand that was dealt them.

Hillary and Bill both did everything they possibly could to avoid this outcome, but the DNC ignored them like they ignored us.

And for now that means smiling while they are throwing up in their mouths’.

Hillary absolutely needs the help and support of the Dem party to be both re-elected to the Senate and elected to the Presidency.

They are both laying in the weeds until the time is right.

One of the cultural issues we have in America is that we are always looking for instant gratification. Like the commercial says, “I want it all, and I want it now.” Business are always at current and next quarter results.

In many other countries they look at 5, 10 or even 20 year plans.

We just need to be a little patient, and continue our path. I believe the Clintons have more than a two month plan.

#305 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:18 pm

It’s pissing me off how the commentators are telling BO what McCain said, so he can contrast himself. That is not fair and not the ground rules laid out in this forum. I hate the freaking Obamedia!!!

#306 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:18 pm

Remember, he believes in Marxism – control of the government over the people. I think Asian gave us some of the theories before!!

#307 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:18 pm

Send BO back to school so he can learn how to speak.

#308 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:19 pm

US Military facing challenges – Keeping America safe – echoing McCain’s words

#309 lizben08 on 09.11.08 at 9:20 pm

Did Biden really say Hillary is a better pick than him? Too bad the DNC couldn’t see that!

#310 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 9:20 pm

266 Caracal Carrie

:lol: sounds just like me..I finally started using Cd’s to back -up ! :mrgreen: I am doing Chicago Politics..I don’t know exactly what we are looking for ..so it will have to be weeded out..All of it IS about Chicago Politics, Emil Jones, and I am going to look up uinfo on Alice Palmer (thanks to who-ever suggested it! : ): ) and see what else I can find. I will email it to you okay?

#311 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 9:20 pm

sunshine

Those links were great!

Would LOVE to find the media hall of shame they mention in the secone one..think Ill search for it!

#312 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 9:20 pm

Found it!

#313 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:21 pm

Uah! He is driving me crazy! This man is going to negotiate with terrorists?

#314 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:21 pm

What other parts ?

#315 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 9:21 pm

NOTE:
“Affluenza: The All-Consuming Epidemic ” was written by John DeGraaf.

John create the term, AFFLUENZA, while on an airplane flight. His definition for it: is something akin to “a painful, contagious, socially-transmitted condition of overload, debt, anxiety and waste resulting from the dogged pursuit of more.”
http://www.affluenza.org/

John is also the co-founder of Take Back Your Time
http://www.timeday.org/
and is associated with the Simple Living Network
http://www.simpleliving.net

Personal note: John and I met when I was 19 and a VISTA volunteer working on the L’Couteoreiles Chippewa Reservation in Wisconsin. We lost touch, and after several decades, re-connected on the SimpleLiving board when he saw my name on the list of contributors and contacted me. Cool reunion!

#316 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:21 pm

bring on the tea!

#317 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:21 pm

You will never be Commander in Chief, Bozo——– we are going to stop you in your tracks!

#318 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 9:22 pm

Neworleanspuma and bythelake

You know it..WOOHOO!

#319 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:22 pm

lizben08 on 09.11.08 at 9:20 pm Did Biden really say Hillary is a better pick than him? Too bad the DNC couldn’t see that!…………..

Oh without a doubt I bet the DNC saw that! Priceless Joe Biden!

#320 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:23 pm

Good question about ROTC & Columbia – Notice how the audience response was tepid?

#321 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:23 pm

shampoovta, you are more underpayed than I am, I salute you! I appreciate what you do (just ignore the many snobby teachers, some of us have actually worked real jobs in the past : D )

#322 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:23 pm

We need HILLARY!

#323 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:24 pm

#303 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:18 pm

Send BO back to school so he can learn how to speak.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Bring back the ROTC on campus…………..that will go over like a lead balloon in UC Berkeley, Code Pink!

#324 scarolina on 09.11.08 at 9:24 pm

over on HC forum someone was asking:

I think Obama just lied about where he was during 9/11.

He stated that he was in Chicago, in the State Legislature at the time, he was driving down Lake Shore drive on the way to a committee hearing downtown…

For some reason I remember that Obama said that he was somewhere in Florida?

Anyone here know???

#325 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 9:24 pm

Does anyone feel that the questions for McCain were like a ticking bomb. I remember the woman said something like Gov. Palin’s comments about Nobama (community org.) were derisive. Nobamba gets all the easy questions. Remember, one is from Time mag. and the other is from ABC news. How biased!!!!

#326 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:24 pm

Uah Uah! I can’t listen anymore! He is not saying anything anyway.

#327 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:24 pm

Guess they can’t ask him about his service duty….too busy going to school on out of country dollars!

#328 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:25 pm

Go into the foreign service………….what is that, the CIA?

#329 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:25 pm

now he just stole ‘ a cause greater than yourself ‘ and they let him get by with it !!!

#330 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:25 pm

#306 Sunshine,

Here’s a great, indepth article about Chicago politics and BO’s very dubious associations. Covers the entire Rezko thing as well. It is in five parts. I only saved the last part because it has links to the other four at the top.

http://www.countercurrents.org/pringle220508.htm

#331 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:26 pm

SO how’s MR O doing (just got back)

#332 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:26 pm

As if BO would have joined the service right after Nam, I joined and many of my friends thought I was a sell out at the time… I just wanted to see something other than AZ…hehehe Yes, you guessed it, NAVY… But they made us wear the ugliest clothes, wanted to wear what the guys were, wasn’t fair at alll.. (yes, still have issues hehehehehe)

#333 john on 09.11.08 at 9:26 pm

This guy is a damn dummy, he rambles forever. SAYING NOTHING. My GAWD

#334 wildpuma on 09.11.08 at 9:27 pm

I think you have Missouri selection right. We are holding our breath. I am voting for a candate and not leaving it blank. My t-shirt Hillary voter for MCCain is getting me into alot of trouble with city voters. We are going to have a real hard time out voteing the city folks they are for BO big time. I have been told off by strangers walking the down the street as well as neighbors. I stand my ground and can’t wait to vote against BO in November it can’t come soon enough!

#335 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 9:27 pm

cassie

Obama gets softballs, because he only has softballs!
If they throw him a hard fast one his head will explode!

#336 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:28 pm

Well, you think they will bring up the town hall with McCain?

Come on BO….face to face….chicken……
bababababaack

#337 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:28 pm

Will the real BO please stand up? Does anyone believe that he would serve in the military?

#338 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:28 pm

Well we all heard him in the beginning he said I have a advantage this is my school or something like that.
Carrie did the link work?

#339 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:28 pm

yes, Cassie, but still McCain cruised through. He doesn’t have to stop and think, he just says what he believes… Makes it so simple…

#340 lilibet on 09.11.08 at 9:29 pm

slyt2:

Thank you so much for the link to the USA song. I just realized how good my speakers are. I book marked it so I can take refuge there when I need an uplifting moment.

#341 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:30 pm

erickaAZ- Carrie was in the Navy too .( she’s my little sister)

#342 warrior4hillary on 09.11.08 at 9:30 pm

Why I’m (Finally) Supporting Sarah Palin
by Paulie Abeles

Since John McCain announced Sara Palin as his running mate, like many of you I suspect, I’ve been constantly asked: “What do you think of Sarah Palin?”
The struggle that I’ve been going through in trying to answer that question honestly, is that all the things I find compelling about her:
that she’s attractive and charismatic, has a great personal narrative, is eloquent, a ‘breath of fresh air’–yes, even “tokenism” (for lack of a better word)
were also true of Obama. And, I, like many Clinton supporters, decided those were not sufficiently strong reasons to support him.

So, in one sense, I would feel like a hypocrite supporting Palin for any of those reasons.

Although I think she is more experienced than Obama—(She, has, after all, directed a budget of over $10 billion, supervised 24,000 employees and negotiated with foreign governments -Russia and China over fishing rights); she is lightly credentialed in terms of the possible field of socially progressive Republican women McCain could have chosen (Snowe, Whitman, Hutchinson etc.).
And, although I respect her integrity, there is virtually no social issue on which I share common ground with Sarah Palin. Unlike John McCain, who has never been ideological; Sarah Palin is, and unabashedly so.

However as I’ve struggled with these issues since her selection, I keep coming back to two points.
Of all the basic rights—human rights– that Democrats have stood for—there are two that seem to me to be the most important:
the right to vote (and have that vote counted fairly) and the right to free speech.

The right to vote, it seems to me, is not simply about exercising your franchise—but actually having that exercise tied to a result. Whether we look narrowly at Florida and Michigan, or broadly at caucus and convention intimidation and fraud—what becomes clear—crystal clear—is that the delegates—both in number and composition– did not accurately represent the ‘will of the people’ that voted for them. And, as a tribute to their organizational skill, if not their integrity, the Obama campaign did everything in their power to ensure that that would be the case.
Just as importantly, throughout the nomination process, the Obama campaign did everything possible to curtail the free speech of those who opposed him. Whether it was as simple as harassing supporters at the local metro, or as brazen as intimidating delegates at state conventions and threatening members of the Black Caucus—opposition to Barack Obama put people at risk—to be taunted, insulted and harassed in a way I’ve never before experienced in a political campaign.

So, I come down to this. Do we believe that the Obama campaign curtailed the freedom of speech of those who opposed him? Do we believe that Clinton’s supporter’s votes were not counted fairly? If we answer ‘yes; as I have answered, than it seems to me that the fact that we disagree with Sarah Palin on reproductive choice, or creationism, or even protecting the Polar Bears—is the human rights equivalent of small potatoes. There are two basic rights that make us a democracy; two essential rights that keep us free. If I have my voice—and my vote—I can work for all the other issues. Without them, I can do nothing.

So, this fall I will vote for John McCain and, yes, Sarah Palin. I will vote as a protest, and as a promise. A protest at what took place; a promise that it will never happen again. I will vote as a democrat.

Paulie Abeles is co-founder of Real Democrats (www.RealDemocratsUSA.org)

#343 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:30 pm

asshole

#344 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:31 pm

You look at BO and he seems so passive. But, remember the fraud of his Obambots and ACORN in the primary, this man is deceptive.

#345 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:31 pm

#317 erickaAZ

Mine is not to question why mine is but to do or die. I would just be a ditch digger if I hadn’t ben blessed to do this grate work. It defines me. I hated school too isn’t that funny.

#346 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:31 pm

#336 lilibet Oh you are so welcome that song brings me to tears and lefts me up when I listen to it. I’m glad someone else enjoyed it :)

#347 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:32 pm

Boy this is a long story. Rap it up.

#348 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:33 pm

#329 john on 09.11.08 at 9:26 pm

This guy is a damn dummy, he rambles forever. SAYING NOTHING. My GAWD
————–
That’s because the attention span of his followers is about 10 minutes and then he runs out of content.

HOPE, bla, bla……….Change…ah, ah………pig………lipstick
……………….. my grandmother…..
……ah……….. Montana …………….ah.

Thank you Senator Obama but we have run out of time.

#349 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:33 pm

Re list for Louisiana: Any other Louisiana Pumas here?
I will vote against Mary Landrieu, having voted for her for 25 years. She did not lift her head above the deck when the media and Obimba surrogates relentlessly went after Hillary Clinton. She raised her head after Hillary suspended to supposedly support women…with the crew of female Senators…I am a chronic Democratic voter. She needs my vote and will not get it. Why? I will punish her for her acts. I and many others supported Mary Landrieu some years back when the Archbishop went after her for her abortion stand.
right before an election. She did not have the moral integrity to stand up against the very kind of stuff we stood up against for her. Do not tell me to vote for her.
If you do, I am telling you in advance and any other Louisiana voters to please send Mary a message:
Stand up when it counts for other women as we stood for you! Vote against Mary Landrieu.

#350 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:33 pm

Memo to BO – call off your attack dogs at the Daily Kos and Huffington Post

#351 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:34 pm

He is not ansering the question. OMG another story.

#352 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:34 pm

#343 shampoovta

Boy this is a long story. Rap it up.
——-
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah…………….

#353 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 9:34 pm

Bo calling Sarah a pig, he sounds like Porky don’t you think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmzxOh89vbQ

Just some late nite humor!

#354 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:34 pm

Community Organizing – BO’s way – directing funds to ACORN, intimidating your opponents in a political race, taking money from Rezko

#355 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:35 pm

can’t watch anymore – be back later……..

#356 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:35 pm

Obama was the one who dissed Sarah, now he is saying he is surpised? What a dick! I want to slap his dumb ass self…. GGGRRRRRRR!!!!!

#357 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:35 pm

For crying out loud, even my daughter just said….he rambles…about nothing….

#358 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:36 pm

Change the rhetoric – Defeat BO in November

Lobbyists – collected $125 million dollars from bundlers and lobbyists in the Democratic Primary

#359 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:36 pm

We yack in the Senate and vote ‘present’.

Working with churches…………..you dumb shit, you did nothing………….go look at what a great city you left behind………..
Murphy, roll that film piece again for the audience.

#360 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 9:36 pm

Love this:

“I will vote as a protest, and as a promise.
A protest at what took place;
a promise that it will never happen again.”
–Paulie Abeles

#361 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:36 pm

house cleaning and I have the mop!

#362 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:36 pm

No BO. Palin’s got the goods. More executive experience than McCain, Obama and Biden put together. She’ll make a great president of our Christian nation if McCain keels.

#363 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 9:36 pm

#339bythelake: excellent paraphrasing- LMAO

#364 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:37 pm

I don’t want his nasty Bots taking over the government!

#365 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:37 pm

transperancy….seeing through BO.

#366 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:37 pm

Now he’s bragging about his evil Bots!

#367 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:38 pm

#339 bythelake
asshole

ROTFLMAO that’s the best answer of the night I love it….
He does ramble on doesn’t he, let me tell you a story blah blah

#368 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 9:38 pm

Yup sly I replied in an email but that was a great article!

I just went to the media Hall of shame and I am just sick to my stomache.

Well, it gave me a lot of add to the sexism part..all of it from the media and not Obama, but I thinks its important.

http://www.now.org/issues/media/hall_of_shame/index.html?open=1&page=2

#369 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:38 pm

Memo to BO – You are the problem in DC –

Channeling fraud, buying off super delegates, threatening your political opponents – BO style politics

#370 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:38 pm

Did he just say make government cool. What like D.A.R.E.?? Ya government can be cool, right.

#371 Kempion on 09.11.08 at 9:38 pm

Is “PUMA PAC” planning to release its votes to McCain/Palin?

#372 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:39 pm

Let’s make government cool again. Yea, that sounds great, wow, we really want to be part of all of this cool shit.

Let me donate to your campaign again, “Mom, where is your purse?”

#373 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 9:39 pm

Reminder:

PUMA UNITED RADIO
The show Conflucians Say will air at
7PM Pacific / 10 Eastern

http://www.Blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/12/Conflucians-Say

If you want to call in live and speak with the host,
dial (347)539-5420.
You will be placed into the caller queue where you will still be able to hear the show while you are on hold.

#374 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:39 pm

coolaid….new brand….

No thanks BO, not my drink….

Tea please.

#375 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:40 pm

shampoovta, I did and do too… how funny, that is probably why the kids love me, they know I am there just for them…. : )

#376 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:40 pm

Turn off the video game it is mom’s turn.

#377 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:40 pm

#367 Kempion,

What are you asking? PUMA Pac cannot release our votes, it doesn’t own them.

#378 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 9:40 pm

These people are clapping at everything. He passed gas and they just clapped. Stupid people!

#379 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:40 pm

Carrie , antifish posted this link earlier on Chicago politics

http://www.countercurrents.org/pringle220508.htm

#380 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:41 pm

Good grief – I can’t stand to listen to him anymore!

#381 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:41 pm

Pig phart.

#382 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:41 pm

OH, THANK GOD HE’S DONE!

#383 EWard on 09.11.08 at 9:42 pm

#374 Cassie

LOL

#384 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:42 pm

You know I probably will get in trouble for this but I swear when he gets stammering (I I I I I I ) I want to stand behind him and smack him up side he head and say SNAP OUT OF IT,

#385 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:42 pm

377 bythelake _ rotflmaosapalb !!!!!!!

#386 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 9:42 pm

douche bag

#387 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:43 pm

slyt2………….mamamamaeeeeeeeeeeee 222222222

#388 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:43 pm

notice the after applause was so much weaker than when he showed up… while, McCains was louder when he finished….HHHMMM… will anyone else notice…

#389 Middle age female on 09.11.08 at 9:43 pm

#367 Kempion on 09.11.08 at 9:38 pm Is “PUMA PAC” planning to release its votes to McCain/Palin?
************
A high percentage of people here are voting for McCain/Palin as a protest vote. Some will stay home, and some will vote 3rd party or write-in. I, for one, am doing the protest vote – the first time in my life I have been forced to vote for a Republican because of the DNC.

#390 antifish on 09.11.08 at 9:43 pm

CNN says Ike is gaining strength, becoming a monster, and has changed path, heading straight toward Houston.

#391 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:43 pm

I’m not even listening to him, but reading about all of you listening to him makes me not even want to read about your listening to him. It just makes me feel sick that he might be president because there is absolutely nothing about him that is any value as a leader of anything at all.

#392 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:43 pm

rollin on the floor laughin my ass off and peed a little bit :)

#393 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:44 pm

A waste of a good 1/2 hour of my time. HoHum.

#394 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 9:44 pm

More details on #345New OrleansPuma: The archbishop made this move almost the night before the election . Her opponent was Livingston, another Catholic..remember him? This is the dude who resigned right before he was to have been Speaker of the House, because all the while he was lambasting in public Bill Clinton’s infidelity , was having an affair with someone.
Larry Flynt brought that forward. After this , the Archbishop went on about what a good man he was…
My point: I do not support abortion; I also do not support a Theocracy. This is American, not Iraq or Iran where one religion dictates. And I sure as hell do not support or tolerate an Archbishop using religion in a secular process, while not applying the same norm to a man. No. Stand up or go down! We stood up. Mary did not.

#395 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 9:44 pm

I think beer pong wins out over Bo’s cool government.

#396 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:44 pm

TT, let me grab the white house mop.

#397 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:45 pm

Wow, get out of Texas bay areas (Gaveston)……………..”certain death” to those by the shore in 1 or 2 story homes.

GET OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#398 murphy on 09.11.08 at 9:46 pm

Tune in tonight at 10pm eastern (that’s 15 minutes from now!) for riverdaughter and the gang on Conflucian’s Say!

Listen live here!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

#399 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:46 pm

#374 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 9:40 pm

These people are clapping at everything. He passed gas and they just clapped. Stupid people!
Man you guys are cracking me up,#388 Texas I think I just did too.

#400 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:46 pm

McCain had shorter punch to his answers. They agreed most of the time. Obama used it to attack the Republicans.

So how is McCain Bush then?

#401 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:46 pm

Unbelievable. No wonder they kept him scripted. He brags he works the O’bots like dogs and claims they love it! And it sounds like he is going to “inspire” them to fix the country. I wonder what he is going to do if they want to get paid?

He better not have and ideas about indoctrinating my child or he will wish he had a momma wildcat on his back instead of me.

#402 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:47 pm

PUMA PAC Mighty Maid Service

Guaranteed to keep the white house free of fraud…..

Will sweep BO’S & MO’S to the curb…..

#403 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:47 pm

#383 Stop I need the mop too,

#404 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:47 pm

BO should make a campaign stop in Galveston in like a day or so!

#405 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 9:47 pm

He can’t dazzle with brilliance so he baffles with bull shit

#406 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:48 pm

My vote for McCain/Palin is no longer a protest vote….

(see Clintons working to help Obama)… : l

#407 Middle age female on 09.11.08 at 9:48 pm

FOX is saying that McCain and BO both said a lot of the same things. Well, duh, BO heard all of McCains’s answers.

#408 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:48 pm

Did anyone know if Cassie’s dad got the hell out of Houston ? Do I need to go drag him out ?

#409 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:48 pm

#388 TexasTigress
Gross! :lol:

#410 atypical on 09.11.08 at 9:49 pm

I give up Murphy, What to hell does it mean that I’m posting too fast? I’ve lost two posts already and that happens practically every time I’ve tried to post on here. No wonder my name has an asterisk next to it.

What I want to say is that I will never vote for BO, even if the Virgin Mary sends her Only Son with an endorsement. I do not feel very Christian about MO either. She apparently hates most of us, and I have no sympathy or understanding of that hatred.

I am trying very hard to not be discusted with Hill and Bill, also. I’m hoping they are working on Plan B. I will never forgive them if they get BO into the WH, knowing that he is the world’s worst slimeball.

Country Before Party.

#411 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:49 pm

#402 erickaAZ ;)

#412 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:51 pm

406 atypical that happens to me all the time , just copy your message before you hit send – then when you get the error- just go back and paste your message . sometimes it takes a few times …

#413 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:51 pm

It blows my mind to think that thousands listen to this hot air from BO and come out with tears running down their cheeks………..inspired. He’s the ONE.

Am I living in another dimension? Is this the Twilight Zone, WTF?

#414 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 9:51 pm

Now you guys are cracking me up. Husband thinks I’m cookoo!

#415 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:52 pm

Does BO have technical people that are making it hard to post. I wouldn’t put it past him.

#416 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 9:52 pm

OMG, Cassie, did you stutter? coooookoooooooo? lol

#417 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:52 pm

#400 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:47 pm

BO should make a campaign stop in Galveston in like a day or so!
———–
He should leave now and go check it out to make sure everyone else is out.

#418 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:53 pm

Ok on CNN they are gonna talk about Palin’s interview with Gibson.. They got Bay Buchanan on and Candy C and ROLAND MARTIN.

#419 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:53 pm

410 Cassie did your folks evacuate ???

#420 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:53 pm

#406 atypical

It should say ” Hay girl you be work’n dat button!”

I thought may be it meant to many people posting or it has a timer. Maybe it is just sick of me. I don’t know.

#421 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 9:54 pm

CLAPPING FOR PASSING GAS?

MUST SMELL LIKE FREE MONEY!

#422 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:54 pm

Shit , peeps , they just said we are going to be in the nasty for 72 hours ……yuck .

#423 doria on 09.11.08 at 9:54 pm

Looks like BO been told to give more direct answers. Did anyone catch that he listened to the questions to McCain?

Go vote.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/11/aol-straw-poll-sept-11-18

#424 NYCgirl on 09.11.08 at 9:55 pm

MURPHY AND PUMA PAC

Murphy,

Thanks so much for your message a couple of threads ago regarding the loss of my mother last Sunday. I do appreciate your kind words and the condolences of all the PUMAs who expressed their sympathy for our loss.

I look forward to returning to the blog next week and catching up on the threads I missed.

Thanks again to Murphy and PUMA Pac.

Best,

NYCgirl

#425 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 9:55 pm

slyt2 , I hear you! : D

#426 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 9:55 pm

I have spent some time in Galveston. It is a neat city. I used to love the outside beach bars. They had a bad hurricane, years ago that wiped the place out. It killed alot of people because they did not have the kind of information that we have these days and they did not expect it.

#427 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:55 pm

#411 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:52 pm

Does BO have technical people that are making it hard to post. I wouldn’t put it past him.
————
Not that I mind you blaming BO for anything, but that happens when you try to post at the same time someone else posts. Believe, I have lots of experience at refreshing and posting millions of times.

#428 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 9:56 pm

TexasTigress
Thank you for asking. My dad is at the airport to pick up my mom who came to visit CT. I can’t get a hold of them though. I want to tell them to get out of dodge. I’m really worried for them though.

#429 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 9:56 pm

Am I living in another dimension? Is this the Twilight Zone, WTF?
Yes we are BillieJo didn’t you know the people have been invaded by the obot people kind of like the Pod people but worse and scary.

#430 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 9:57 pm

#423 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:55 pm

I blame BO for everything!!!!

#431 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:57 pm

#419 doria

Wow the map is all red!Like 60%

#432 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 9:59 pm

Give me a break, the Bush Doctrine……………….. I know what it is, he makes it up as he wakes up in the morning and gets another stupid idea that rides over our constitution.

Get that Roland the fcuk off the flippin show, that guy is so up Bozo’s buns……………….he wears lipstick.

#433 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:59 pm

#420 NYCgirl

Oh man. Take care.

#434 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:00 pm

424 Cassie it’s mandatory now and the roads are backed up all the way up where I live (2 and a half hours north ) He needs to get out now .

#435 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 10:00 pm

326 antifish

Thanks so much Antifish…I included it in my email to carrie.. I missed all the fun you guys were having..I was busy searching for info! :lol: But glad you were all having fun..gotta let some of the steam out now and then..

#436 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:01 pm

Caracal Carrie – Just took a quick look at your site. What an ambitious undertaking. As for caucus fraud, probably lynette long is the best link for that. As for what happened at the convention, might want to make sure you’re in contact with Ricki Lieberman as she appears to be gathering stories from delegates. Will take a longer look at your site later or tomorrow and get back to you with more stuff if I think it can be helpful.

#437 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 10:01 pm

Gonna listen to the radio show and turn Roland on mute.

#438 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:02 pm

“There is a lot of exuberance in GOP circles these days and some panic amongst Democrats but the Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll shows that about half of the voters are awake and the other half are voting for Obama.”

LOL

http://www.stephenkruiser.com/?p=235

#439 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 10:02 pm

TexasTigress: You are all in my prayers, Texas Tigress!

#440 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:03 pm

slyt2 , I am so tired, I need to sleep, hope those pods won’t get me, and I’m thirsty too, the koolaid looks so refreshing, just a sip….. OBAMA IS THE BEST, OH MY GOD, HE RULES, MUST DRINK MORE KOOLAID AND GIVE THE “O” MY MONEY……

#441 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:03 pm

RE: THE MAP LOOKING RED

It always does. Typically the Republicans win lots of mid west states and the Dems pick up the states on the coast and new england. It always looks very red cause the Rep states are far less populated than the Dem states. So, don’t go by color, go my electoral votes!

#442 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 10:03 pm

Didn’t sound like Bozo had any believers on the blog tonight………….

#443 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 10:03 pm

The Bush doctrine is give them justice – American style. Bomb them all to smithereens. Diplomats never solved anything. Sarah knows what to do and she won’t hesitate to do it. She should send BO to Galveston to campaign! LOL

#444 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:04 pm

Thanks Anna!

I have an email into Lynette Long and am awaiting a response. I will try and reach out to Ricki Lieberman as well.

It still a small site so far but I hope to make it a great one.

Sunshine

Thanks so much to you!!!

#445 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:04 pm

435 NewOrleansPuma _ You’re the best ;) thanks !

#446 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 10:04 pm

OMG My dad is stuck in traffic and my mom has been waiting at Hobby for an hour now.

#447 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:04 pm

Texas becareful and squish my girlies and smooch my Buh..

Call me if and when you can

#448 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:05 pm

#297 BillieJo – will let Murphy address why some do not have McCain on the top – I can tell you what I did on this project -

I gathered information from DemconWatch and LobbyDelegates on who originally endorsed BO and HRC – then I went into a website that showed every State the individual that was up for re-election – I then took each of these people and made notes which one was for BO and which one was for HRC – (this was before the big switch over of so many delegates from HRC to BO) I then made note of the ones that had received money from BO and Pelosi especially those where HRC won big in their districts or State —

Hope that I explained what I did on the research – I really do have all the 50 States – been feeding them a few at a time as I just did above.

#449 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 10:05 pm

So, now I am hearing from the O’bots that we are going to be engaged in community service. People cannot pay their bills but they are going to go work for free?

#450 michelle47 on 09.11.08 at 10:06 pm

civilityforusa….

AMEN!

#451 Middle age female on 09.11.08 at 10:06 pm

I liked the way McCain kept pushing for town meetings.

#452 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:06 pm

442 Cassie Prayers for them , and tell them to get the hell out – have you seen the size of this thing ?

#453 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:07 pm

#436 Ericka – Oh No Oh No – woman down – woman down – need to save her – she drank the kool-aide – help her LOL LOL LOL

#454 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:07 pm

David Gergen thought the Bush Doctrine question was BS… hahhaha

#455 Nijma on 09.11.08 at 10:07 pm

just saw this on another thread:

“Jim Jones was a community organizer.”

hee, hee, hee

#456 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:08 pm

hahaha Gogandalf, here, sip of the koolaid, the grape flavor is soooooo nummy….

#457 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:09 pm

436 erickaAZ……..slap

Coming to….thank goodness….puked it up.

Your good now.

#458 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 10:09 pm

Huge!!! Are you ok where you live?

#459 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 10:09 pm

440 Caracal Carrie

No thanks neccessary Carrie.We are all in this together. WE have to defeat *61~~~~ so when it’s all over, and I ask myself—”did I do everything I could to help defeat him? I will be able to answer YES I TRIED!!!!~~ :lol: :lol: :lol: I will be doing the “Happy Dance!….oh wait..didn’t I hear that “happy dance ” thing from someone on TV??!!! OMG!!!! But that is what I will be doing!!!!

#460 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:10 pm

erickaAZ….if you don’t behave your going to have to go to the closet and only one of you and ?? is coming back out lol!

#461 murphy on 09.11.08 at 10:10 pm

civilityforusa, your username seems at odds with your bellicosity.

nijma — hee-hee – that came from our radio show last night. I cant remember if Riv or Sheri said it.

#462 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 10:10 pm

#436 erickaAZ lol, yes the blue is the best, drink , drink , drink…………
Roland Martin want can i say about that man, nothing that can be said on this blog….But I will say that I am sure when sitting next to him you need a spit towel.

#463 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:11 pm

454 Cassie It’s only supposed ot be a 2 when it gets here – we will be safe . We already have every rosary in the house out :) !!!!!! LOL

#464 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:11 pm

388 TexasTigress You are so bad.

Remember what Huckabee said the other day:

As long as they’re kicking you in the a@@, then you’re still out front!! Just loved that one!!

#465 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:12 pm

thanks bythelake, and it looks like you could use a DRINK…. lol I am just so damn thankful they don’t make nobama’s koolaid in a sugarfree form…lol

I was saved by a Zero Coke… BuuuuuuuuuuuuYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#466 CyberFerret52 on 09.11.08 at 10:12 pm

Murphy,
My hair is on fire about voter fraud!! It’s all for nothing if the Obamafiles are allowed to defraud the voters again. (and we have so little time) How about a VOTER WATCH sign along the lines of the neighborhood watch signs that we are all familiar with? Underneath the logo could be something like:
Due to excessive voter fraud in our elections we are advising all voters to be vigilante and report any suspected illegal activity. Take pictures to document these activities or call the police if necessary.

#467 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 10:12 pm

I’m just angry and doing what I need to do to regain civility for our nation.

#468 Beca4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 10:13 pm

All,

This is a petition to ask Oprah to bring Sarah Palin before the election. If you cannot open it let me know.

http://news.newsmax.com/?SKORXqSQNL41A8wziwyjYrRKG3lfxJUAS&http://www.PalinPetition.com

#469 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:13 pm

erickaAZ…..pepsi please lol…..

#470 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:13 pm

451 Nijma :lol:

#471 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 10:13 pm

I should try to calm down, I suppose.

#472 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:14 pm

spit towel, lid up on the toilet, in the street, and alley,,,,,,,,, in his face, they all work…

#473 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 10:14 pm

You know my son love’s kool-aid so we tease him all the time about drinking the kool-aid now his scared to drink it lol so we stopped teasing him so much.

#474 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:14 pm

#367Kempion – are you still on here – what happened to that insider information you got on Biden/Clinton today??? Is it still going on or hit the floor like a broken egg??? You know us inquiring minds..

#475 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:14 pm

They are showing Palin on Fox right now.

#476 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:14 pm

gypsy !!! LOL I loved that !
You are going to have to be putting those mini horses in bed with you tomorrow night !!!! Ike is lookin UGLY !

#477 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:15 pm

well bythelake, only if it is vanilla diet pepsi…

#478 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:16 pm

oh, sly2, that is soo funny, a kid afraid to drink of the koolaid, give a sunny delite then…hehehe

#479 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:17 pm

ehhhhhhhhhhh, no, yuck, worse than koolaid….lol…..

hey, we have plenty of wineries in our area…about 20…our town is drunk on grapes

#480 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:17 pm

All this drinkin stuff on this board and no goandersen for me to ‘clink’ with …. :(

#481 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:18 pm

oh gooooooooooooo, where are you?

#482 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 10:18 pm

nobody at radio show???http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

#483 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 10:18 pm

201 osaka puma I so agree with that. And it’s not just them. We have a whole class of people that encompasses all strata of society who have become so complacent, take-it-all-for-granted and and sure that the merry go round is going to go around forever that when it all crashes down, this is going to be one scary damn place to be.

#484 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:19 pm

flip flop obama is being embarrassed on fox.

#485 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 10:19 pm

slyt2
you are wicked!!!

#486 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:20 pm

#451 Nijma wrote:

“just saw this on another thread:

“Jim Jones was a community organizer.”

hee, hee, hee”

It just works. ROFLMAO

#487 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:21 pm

well, I am sippen of the Heineken….. : P

#488 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:22 pm

Im just trying to think of something I can shove up my husbands nose while he is sleeping so I can hear the tv..

#489 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:23 pm

Sunshinelvr, my computer is linked via phone modem, so those kind of links don’t work for me… sorry : (

#490 Pookie on 09.11.08 at 10:23 pm

The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans.

To show our solidarity as Americans, let’s all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice.

It’s time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support the policies and character of John Sidney McCain,

please drive with your headlights on during the day.

If you support Barack Hussein Obama

please drive with your headlights off at night.

#491 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:24 pm

tampons

#492 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:24 pm

no, make that straws

#493 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:24 pm

Oh let’s see, Caracal Carrie, try one of his socks…hehehe

#494 CyberFerret52 on 09.11.08 at 10:24 pm

I really hope Bill Clinton told him that Hillary has fulfilled her obligation and won’t be kissing his a$$ any more. Seems like that would put a smile on Bill’s face and make Barak cross his arms. Hope so, as this has gone on long enough and her people are getting really disgusted with it. She needs to think about herself now, screw the party! (that screwed her)

#495 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 10:24 pm

#481 OH now I feel bad :( but it’s not just me , and it is fun :)

#496 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:25 pm

484 Caracal Carrie – Might I suggest a lit stick of dynomite ?

#497 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 10:25 pm

I wonder what the chance are of finding someone, or better yet, a group who participated in the registration/vote fraud of the primaries/caucus that would be willing to come out and blow the whistle publicly on the whole sad scam.
Wow!! Was that all one sentence?

#498 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:25 pm

#484 Caracal Carrie

Breath right. LOL

#499 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:25 pm

oh, that’s a very bad Pookie! sure made me laugh tho..

#500 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 10:26 pm

Pookie
bythelake
LMAO

#501 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 10:26 pm

#484 Caracal Carrie A pillow over his nose… But seriously go to the store tomorrow and buy breath strips they work great. Won’t help tonite but will the next time.

#502 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 10:26 pm

486 Pookie OMG ROFLMAO!!!!!

#503 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:27 pm

you could always roll him on the floor….

#504 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:27 pm

LOL Texas! Be sweet to your brother in law or I will send him down for a nice long visit!

#505 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 10:28 pm

484 Caracal Carrie

If you want to wake him up..try waving a sandwich that has a strong smell ..like bologna or tuna..under his nose

:lol:

#506 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 10:28 pm

All of these suggestions sounds like “count the ways to kill your husband”.

#507 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:28 pm

you could always tell him that BO is at the door!

#508 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 10:28 pm

464 Beca4Hillary Is there a petition to NOT let Sarah Palin be on that bigot Oprah’s show?

#509 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 10:29 pm

as soon as he starts waking–hide the sandwich and act innocent… :lol:

#510 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:29 pm

#499 bythelake wrote:
“you could always roll him on the floor….”

He is not on fire. LOL. OK I am only making my self laugh.

#511 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:29 pm

LOL I just stuck his own finger up his nose!! He barely woke up but now he is on his belly and its blissfully quiet!

#512 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:29 pm

472 TexasTigress I’ll lay on top of them and save them first – I have 5 foals out here. We built a really good steel frame 3 bay garage and we’re all going to huddle in there I think. I know it’s not that great of protection. The only thing is I don’t think I can convince my husband to back out his 1967 Ford Ranchero or the 1966 Ford Truck!! Or his bass boat!!

Seriously though, they’re sending Corpus Christi evacuees to San Antonio, but we still have to listen to the latest news.

Thanks though!! :lol:

#513 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 10:30 pm

Ok you wild gals and guys(if any tonite) I’m gonna go cuddle with hubby ;) then go to sleep gotta get up at 5 yuck Cassie hopefully your parents get to a safe place soon. Texas T you be carefully and keep those rosary’s up for awhile Good nite Ya all…..

#514 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:30 pm

This poor man. LOL

#515 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:30 pm

500 Caracal Carrie – NOOOO !!!!!!! THEN i WOULD evacuate !!!!!! lol

#516 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:30 pm

LOL I thought of a pillow but the side affects seemed a little extreme.

#517 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:31 pm

here is one from the past – “Born free, as free as the wind blows”

#518 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 10:31 pm

slyt2
thanks. Good night!

#519 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 10:31 pm

Good Night ..You WONDERFUL bunch of people!!!!
Maybe I might lurk a little bit later! Keep having fun!

#520 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:31 pm

507 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:29 pm LOL I just stuck his own finger up his nose!!

check for boogies

#521 shybuttough on 09.11.08 at 10:32 pm

NobamaNetwork #71 [9/11/08]re:list
Thank you for your information.

#522 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:32 pm

Gypsy – just be safe .

#523 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:32 pm

goodnight sunshinelvr

#524 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:33 pm

#504 Alice1943 Say Alice, I really don’t want her on Oprah’s. Wouldn’t it be nice if “we” could set up a talk show with her? Everyone could get questions answered, etc. Wouldn’t that really make the media sit up and listen????

#525 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:34 pm

sunshinelvr, nite nite

#526 bluegrasstrina on 09.11.08 at 10:34 pm

Got my “begging” letter today from the ODNC, long letter from coward Dean, telling me how the Republicans will do and say anything to win this election. I put my card back inside it, with NOBAMA written across it, that I will NOT vote for the selected one and not the elected one, sealed it, then wrote on the outside, NOBAMA and the only ones I see doing and saying anything to win is the Democrates and being total sexists. Heck don’t know if that word is spelled right, but they will get the message.

Got home tonight from a Fiscal Court meeting, had printed off the lawsuit, gave it to our Judge Executive who is a democrat and everyone had to read it. Told them about PUMA.

Now, my boss, wants to know where he could get a sweatshirt made up with a pig’s butt, with 61 holding a mirror at the pig’s crack, wearing lipstick to wear to Alaska???? I told him he would have to have Puma Democrat on the back of the shirt too!

Today I have talked with a dozen solid democrats and none of them are voting for 61. All said that no way would they ever vote for him, and for a lot of them, this will be their first time ever voting for a republican. I have told all about PUMA and handed out our web site address.

Murphy, still can’t get my donation to go thru, will call my bank and have them try in the morning. I do not understand why I can’t do this.

#527 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:34 pm

Texas

Ok Ill just send ya the Mom in law. Put her in a bed room you’d never know she was there. cept all the missing food…….You know you want a visitor!!

ROFLMAO

Take someone dangit

#528 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:35 pm

518 TexasTigress You’re always so nice, and Carrie has been a 5 star for us – wish we could make stars!!

#529 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:36 pm

Caracal Carrie – Fine , I’ll take YOU ! :)

#530 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:36 pm

Gypsy

Dont eat the texas toast!!! (closest I could get to the koolaid) Texas is awnry!

#531 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:37 pm

Hey better plan here I come!!!

#532 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:37 pm

Did anyone see CNN say that they were the most fair and balanced news channel. Almost puked.

#533 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:37 pm

oh shit bluegrasstrina, now they are going to take you off of the christmas card list!!!!!

#534 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:38 pm

goodnite sunshinelvr!

#535 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:38 pm

Come to Ohio, we don’t have huricanes, we have huricane leftovers….rain…oh, rain McCain!

#536 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:39 pm

Caracal Carrie:

Here’s Dr. Long’s caucus fraud site
http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/

Clinto Dem’s site w/caucus fraud video testimony
http://clintondems.com/

As for snoring, roll him onto his side!

#537 NotFallingInLine on 09.11.08 at 10:39 pm

For New Jersey could we make the slate McCain/Palin? We’re only ‘likely’ to go blue but not ‘safe.’ :-) I think McCain does have a chance here and he opened an office in our state. It’s only been going to the Dems since Clinton in 92. http://www.270towin.com/states/New_Jersey

#538 terrirobin on 09.11.08 at 10:39 pm

Murphy, I emailed Ben Graber about the posting of Edward Lynch and not Ben for Wexler’s seat in Florida. He wants me to give you his cell #. Please PM me.

#539 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:39 pm

goodnite slyt2

#540 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:39 pm

Good night Silver!

#541 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:40 pm

Oh look at this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_ipqk6dj4

#542 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 10:41 pm

Caracal Carrie: what are you doing to that poor soul?
I am in hysterics reading this …

#543 bluegrasstrina on 09.11.08 at 10:41 pm

529 erickaAZ maybe I shouldn’t have put the card back inside it, then they would send me another card. boo hoo at least I cost them a stamp! If they know Santa, they might have him put coal in my stocking, ya think?

#544 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 10:41 pm

Ok I am going to crash out!

Night Pumas

#545 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:42 pm

Caracal Carrie

Can you post the link to your site again? If I scroll through this blog one more time trying to find it my head’s going to explode.

#546 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 10:42 pm

Goodnite Pumas – I’m going to listen to the re-run propaganda so I can see what I want to document next and send to Carrie :lol:

#547 bluegrasstrina on 09.11.08 at 10:43 pm

My 22 year old, said that 61 has a group that is at her college campus, set up with a table, as she walking past them, (this kid will not discuss politics) a lady called out to her to come over to the table, she said she started walking over, saw a 61 sign hanging from a chair, and she turned and kept on walking. I had to laugh. So see? It’s sinking in.

#548 sandtraps on 09.11.08 at 10:44 pm

I think it good: quote ” Palin doesn’t know what is the Bush doctrine” — makes it harder to call her Bush’s third term.

#549 murphy on 09.11.08 at 10:45 pm

notfallinginline #533 — yep , thanks. will do.

#550 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:45 pm

I missed your nite nite sly2, but I wish you a nice sleepy sleep : )

#551 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 10:45 pm

520 1gypsy4mc Now THAT would be awesome. To heck with Oprah. (Wasn’t gonna say ‘heck’, but what the heck)

Geez!!! When did we start having to make an appointment to post here?

#552 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:46 pm

anna – here is the puma facts site
http://puma-facts.com/default.aspx
Not bad for a former kool aide kid ! :)

#553 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 10:48 pm

I wonder if we could just start a petition to deport Obama. Kinda like voting early!

#554 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:48 pm

Caracal Carrie

If you’re still around, perhaps should add a link on your site: “Ways to Stop a Spouse from Snoring”*

(*without inadvertantly killing him)

#555 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 10:48 pm

omg, bluegrasstrina, would santa drink of the koolaid? I think not… and you raised your daughter welll : )

#556 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:50 pm

Texas Tigress – OK. I think I’ve been out of it. So is this a site Caracal Carrie is putting together as a kind of extension of PUMApac, or is it her own thing entirely? And, who’s the former kook aide kid? C.C.?

#557 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:50 pm

Texas Tigress – OK. I think I’ve been out of it. So is this a site Caracal Carrie is putting together as a kind of extension of PUMApac, or is it her own thing entirely? And, who’s the former kook aide kid? C.C.?

#558 pa dem on 09.11.08 at 10:50 pm

Who lives near Washington DC that can help us get this information? I want to know WHICH 20 Clinton delegates stayed strong in Pennsylvania.

—————————-

In addition, all delegations have now received copies of their individual delegate tally sheets. Due to privacy issues around posting signatures on the web, if you wish you to view them you may contact a state party to see a specific delegation or you may come to my Office at the Democratic National Committee to view all of the 56 Delegation Tally Sheets here.

Alice Germond
Secretary, Democratic National Committee
430 So. Capitol St., SE
Washington, DC 20003
202/863-7183

#559 blondlady on 09.11.08 at 10:51 pm

Thanks everybody, y’all were good for a lot of laughs tonight and this was a day when laughing didn’t come easy.

#560 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:51 pm

RE: POST 554

In all fairness, disclaimer should read:

without inadvertantly killing him or her

#561 murphy on 09.11.08 at 10:51 pm

terrirobin #153 — thanks very much. I did not know that. I will change it now.

Folks, please take a look at the slate for your state and if you see any reasons for changes, please let me know in comments.

Gogandalf has done AMAZING work, and I’ve done my best to choose the slates, but only YOU know your local reps. It’s quite possible that some of the R’s I’ve chosen really should NOT be voted for.

Thanks!

#562 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 10:52 pm

shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:40 pm Oh look at this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_ipqk6dj4

EXCELLENT VIDEO!

#563 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:53 pm

pa dem – have you e-mailed ricki lieberman to see if she knows of any pledged delegates who might be sympathetic and willing to come forward to help?

#564 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 10:53 pm

I see my husband siting on the couch. I think it is snuggle time like that other Puma said.

Goood night.

#565 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 10:54 pm

Murphy – Just went up to check on my state. What does a square icon indicate?

#566 civilityforusa on 09.11.08 at 10:55 pm

Our behavior while hidden in the comfort of our cars and participating in anonymous blogging have much in common. Both provide some individuals with the sense of invulnerability and recklessness that most people would not exhibit in personal contact. Road rage by an impossibly impatient driver almost got me killed once. Hateful, shrill, demeaning, thoughtless speech is the coin of the realm here. Civil society and our shared future dies right here and on innumerable other message boards – post by post.

The moderators will do what they will with this post.

All the best.

#567 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:56 pm

Can’t find you anymore – whoever the poster was regarding the top spot for New Jersey slate – you are lost in the crowd of hundreds of comments now – my suggestion is that you send an email to Murphy with your thoughts on it – you made a lot of sense – sorry I could not direct this to you by name.

#568 shasta2001 on 09.11.08 at 10:58 pm

#486 Pookie,

That is the funniest thing I have heard all week!

I have received a few Gop McCain/Palin smear things from my Dem friends. Not a peep for months and now stupid stuff about Mccain and his divorce from his first wife. (what 30 years ago??) Smears about his POW accomplishments as just, he stayed alive and got released. The email was addressed: “If there is anyone out there who is considering voting for Mccain, please read this first.” I even got the “viral” email from Alaska from the disgruntled Dem woman.
They must be getting worried looking at the polls for #61!

#569 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 10:58 pm

anna – carrie was putting it together for us to have like a ‘one stop’ source for our important factual links … She was an obo supporter until about a month or so ago . I am very proud of her .

#570 NotFallingInLine on 09.11.08 at 10:58 pm

#567 gogandalf – murphy already caught it – see 549 – thanks, though :-) The link I posted is actually pretty interesting for election history and lets you play around with combinations. http://www.270towin.com/

#571 Henerietta on 09.11.08 at 10:59 pm

Indiana:

Jill Long Thompson for governor
Barry Welch district 5 for congress
Mark Montagano for congress 3rd district

Democrat not to vote for:
Baron Hill in the southern area, not sure what district. he took $$$$$$$$$$$$$ from Obama and voted with Obama as a super delegate, even though his district went almost 70% for Hillary.

Will see what else I can find

#572 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:59 pm

Murphy I did not know that either about Post #153 – its a great idea for people to express these thoughts that live in the area – I will take anyone to replace Wexler at this point.

#573 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 11:00 pm

civility
What are you talking about?

#574 murphy on 09.11.08 at 11:01 pm

terrirobin, changed the Florida slate — thanks again.

How GREAT would it be if Pumas unseated Wexler and replaced him with a good Independent (with a D heart)??

Also changed NJ Prez pick to: McCain or Puma PAC.

The idea is that you dont leave the top of the ticket literally blank. There IS the fear of vote tampering. So be sure to write something in. I like Puma PAC because it’s unambiguous and it’s like we’re “leaving our mark.”

Here’s the strategy on voting McCain/Palin: In the crucial swing states (PA, OH, FL, CO, VA, MI, MO, IN and maybe more as we go along), Puma PAC is recommending that members exercise the Full Throttle Protest Vote and pull the lever for McCain/Palin. If you really, really, really cannot bring yourself to vote for a republican ticket, that is OKAY. Just DONT vote for Obama.

In the safe red states it’s either McCain/Palin or Puma PAC — doesnt make much difference. If McCain/Palin have it sewn up, your Protest Vote can be cast a bit less drastically. In the safest blue states, same thing.

#575 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 11:01 pm

566 civilityforusa What’s wrong with that post? Kinda mild, actually.

#576 bluegrasstrina on 09.11.08 at 11:03 pm

#555 erickaAZ naaaa just pranking with you, Santa here drinks only Pepsi……..:)

Thanks, she is a great kid. Does exactly what momma says which means NOBAMA. Not ever.

#577 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 11:05 pm

shampoovta, nite nite, I was cast off for a bit, had to hit the keys to get back on…

#578 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 11:08 pm

to raise her to repel the onslaught of peer presure is somethng to be proud of for sure… good job!

#579 Nijma on 09.11.08 at 11:08 pm

@Murphy

“Jim Jones was a community organizer.”

hee, hee, hee”

that came from our radio show last night
It was a great show, I was really getting into the story about how NOW had changed to being totally about abortion issues–I remember it was so much more back in the 70′s. But work comes early in the morning so I couldn’t listen to it all. Wish there was a transcript.

I saw the line on the liberal blog I used to hang out at–they’ve gone totally koolaid, print the BO talking points verbatim, and delete any comments about primary vote totals. Riverdaughter and others have the identical story about being captivated by a political blog then becoming estranged. It’s not just a national Democratic party fracture– that’s just a mirror of the smaller fractures that have happened on a personal level many times over that affect who people are willing to drink their morning coffee with..

#580 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 11:08 pm

#575 Alice1943.

I interpret as “being offended”.

#581 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 11:08 pm

Texas Tigress – Thanks.

Murphy – Are you 100% positive that there aren’t states whereby anything less than an actual vote for a candidate on the ballot won’t go to the candidate of the party a person is a registered member of? And, last time, trying to check my state but need to now what the square box means. About to go to bed. Will wait a few minutes and then screw it!

#582 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 11:10 pm

Thank you NotFallingInLine -

Oh Oh Murphy – did I get you into trouble with the Wexler thing????

Found Ben on my listing as follows Ben Graber – Ind.
Ex-State Rep., Ex-Broward County Commissioner, Physician & ’96 Candidate

Great Job keeping track on all of this Murphy YOU ARE THE ONE that deserves the credit -

Nite all.

#583 bluegrasstrina on 09.11.08 at 11:11 pm

578 erickaAZ
Thanks! I appreciate that. She is her own person. She is stubborn and independent just like us.

#584 bluegrasstrina on 09.11.08 at 11:13 pm

Good night all.

#585 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.11.08 at 11:13 pm

Yikes…Ike’s eye is now scheduled to pass w/in 1/2 mile of my house….and we’ll still be on the wet side…..

#586 atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:14 pm

I received a couple of replies to my e-mail sent to media outlets, re: Where’s Michelle?. Some were automated or out of office responses. However I had a reply from Lou Dobbs, saying he wanted me to call in to his program between 3-5PM EDT, however he sent his reply at 6:24CDT so he must mean tomorrow. Big problem for me; I could never call into a TV station. I would do an OBie. all over myself. Who wants to make the call?1-877-553-6227.

#587 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 11:14 pm

nite nite Bluegrasstrina!!!!

#588 terrirobin on 09.11.08 at 11:15 pm

Thanks Murphy. I’m on a personal crusade to unseat Wexler. HE STOLE MY VOTE. I guess I am bitter. LOL

#589 PumaPal on 09.11.08 at 11:15 pm

ABC Interview – Bush Doctrine – Gibson erred

(If this has been covered already, please forgive me.)

I was not sure what the Bush Doctrine was, so I just looked it up on the Wikipedia. (I know how it is put together … but it is a place to start.) According to the entry, the “Bush Doctrine” is a series of foreign policies related to one another. It is not just one policy. It would seem that Palin’s clarification question was reasonable and Gibson was unreasonable in his response. The media hits bottom and keeps on digging.

#590 Beca4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 11:17 pm

508 Alice1943,

No, sorry, I thought that everyone wanted Sarah to be interview by Oprah. That was my understanding according to all the blogs the other day.

#591 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 11:18 pm

From my husband who doesn’t blog, does some of the prowls and often snores:

Confirmation No.: 271081
Contribution To: Sheila Jackson Lee U.S. Congress Campaign Committee
Contribution Date: 9/11/2008
Amount: $20.00

#592 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 11:18 pm

From my husband who doesn’t blog, does some of the prowls and often snores:

Confirmation No.: 271081
Contribution To: Sheila Jackson Lee U.S. Congress Campaign Committee
Contribution Date: 9/11/2008
Amount: $20.00

#593 atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:18 pm

Why can’t Wexler be declared ineligible in FL. He doesn’t really have a residence there.

#594 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 11:21 pm

atypical – just as I was signing off read your post – that is wonderful – I would be the same way as you – send your post to Antifish – I think she just recently gave an interview in Georgia and is quite good at it – and I think she even did the media prowl today as well..

I will try and post it tomorrow morning for you if I can – we do NOT want to miss this opportunity for sure.

#595 terrirobin on 09.11.08 at 11:21 pm

Atypical:

Friday – Aug 15, 2008
Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Ben Graber, running as an independent candidate for Congress, said this afternoon that he and a “team of attorneys” will go to court in an attempt to have U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler thrown off the ballot.

#596 Nijma on 09.11.08 at 11:25 pm

What does #61 mean?

#597 pa dem on 09.11.08 at 11:26 pm

Anna–I emailed Ricki, but I hope someone here also can get the info.

#598 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 11:27 pm

nijma, it is obama’s birthdate year….

#599 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 11:27 pm

596 Nijma
It’s the year osexist was born.
Which also means his parent didnt conceive him during teh Selma march for civil rights in…….. 1964

#600 atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:27 pm

By the way, which are the two states where majority doesn’t rule, splits delegates according to district’s vote?

#601 sandipuma on 09.11.08 at 11:28 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396

#602 Dem4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 11:30 pm

Murphy,
I would like to provide one name for Tennessee:
Congressman Lincoln Davis

He is running for re-election to the US House and has been the representative for the 5th most rural district in the U.S. for many years. He was a light supporter of Senator Clinton but made a statement to the media where he basically refused to endorse BO.

Oh I almost forgot, please please please add Congressman John Tanner to the list. Congressman Tanner signed a letter to all Democratic Congressional superdelegates endorsing Senator Clinton and strongly urging their vote for Senator Clinton. John Tanner Represents the 8th Congressional District in Tennessee.

#603 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 11:30 pm

one is nebraska I think

#604 KR on 09.11.08 at 11:31 pm

Just another piece of anti -Palin sexism from the editorial page of todays Seattle Times:

“Parsing the Palin Phenomenon” by (feminist- sic!) Joni Balter
exerpt: “All the enthusiasm and rooting for this woman will give way to a realization that she has too much on her plate. She is being asked to manage a steep learning curve on national and international issues and still be a mom in a family with five kids, including a special needs baby and a pregnant daughter.”

GRRRRRR!!!!

FYI to Joni : Just because YOU are completely incapable of finessing the above, and just because FOR YOU it would be a learning curve that’s too steep to contemplate, do not assume that ALL WOMEN have your handicaps. Thanx.

#605 murphy on 09.11.08 at 11:31 pm

anna7000 — I dont know what state you are in!

I dont see any square icons on my screen so I’m not sure to what you are referring.

er, No, I am NOT 100% certain of the voting regulations in every state wrt to writing in a candidate or a bogus name, like Puma PAC.

Though I find it extremely difficult to imagine that a write-in for an entity not on the ballot would revert to the candidate of the party of the voter. That makes no sense. How on earth would they do that?

No one knows how I vote. There is no name on my ballot. There is only a record that I showed up at the polls and a record of my party affiliation. They cant even know for sure that I even did vote. I check in at the door and then I could just turn around and walk out.

I think what you are referencing is the law in many states, or so I have heard, that if you write-in Hillary Clinton, your vote goes to Obama because HE is in the same party as Hillary, not because YOU are in the same party as Obama.

but maybe I’m wrong. . .

#606 NaplesPuma on 09.11.08 at 11:32 pm

#571 Henerietta – Baron Hill is from the 9th District

#607 MARGARITAG588 on 09.11.08 at 11:32 pm

HAVING TROUBLE POSTING. JUST CHECKING

#608 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 11:33 pm

pa dem – another option if you really run out of ideas might be so send snail mails to all the pledged delegates in the area you’re interested in with your inquiry. i think antifish had a data base with snail mail addresses.

#609 Right to Vote on 09.11.08 at 11:34 pm

LandiPUMA
To vote for McCain is the only way to make sure BO will not win. We don’t know what kind of tricks he is going to play. I can’t speak for other, for me I don’t want to wast my vote just to write in.

#610 atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:34 pm

#594 Gogandalf, Thanks, please post it in case antifish is on before I post.

#595 terrirobin, Was the basis of the suit that he wasn’t a resident?

#611 Anna7000 on 09.11.08 at 11:36 pm

murphy – on my screen there are squares scattered around next to several names on all different states. some have two squares. but, no matter. it sounds like it’s not anything since you didn’t intend them to be there. as for how a vote could count, i got that from an e-mail with someone i trust in this grassroots orgs as a possibility. i agree, it seems implausible for the reasons you’ve stated, but so much has occured that no one would have imagined a year ago that i assume nothing!

#612 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 11:37 pm

TOPIC: In post-convention interview, RFK Jr says the Democratic Party is Corrupt

My eyes were opened wide when I went to Denver. However, this is interesting too (ignore his comments about Obama, just read the rest of it).

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/8/we_need_to_remind_people_that

#613 LotusBoy on 09.11.08 at 11:38 pm

Asian4Hillary, Alice1943 and to a lot other PUMA’s – I am back after 16 hours and it feels like ages.
Asian – loved the tax post, dem situation today and plenty
Alice – Ditto. Plenty of stuff to read and useful too
Keep rocking!
Ok, I step back to lurch mode.

#614 Dem4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 11:38 pm

hahaha just checked Tennessee polls and I just came from a Democratic event.

hahaha, good news, McCain, I just have to sit down because I don’t even think kerry was this bad, hahaaha McCain 56% to Obama 32% and that was during the DNC

Which hahahahahahaha, is up for McCain from the beginning of August 41% to 36% which, hahahahaha was a zogby poll in early August and that dumb zogby put Kerry winning Tennessee by 2 points on the day before the election in 2004.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA freaking 24 point lead for McCain.

#615 terrirobin on 09.11.08 at 11:39 pm

#610 atypical Here’s Graber’s statement:

Graber says it is clear Wexler abandoned his Florida residency in 1999 and he sought and obtained Maryland residency the same year. Wexler also applied for and received a Maryland homestead exemption.

“Wexler has represented a Florida district while living as a Maryland resident,” Graber said. “He has used his public position to create tax advantages for himself in two states and with the federal government.”

Graber says Wexler also falsely registered to vote at an address of convenience in Florida and has fraudulently voted in Florida since 2000. Using this potentially illegal address, Wexler has also falsely registered his vehicles in Florida, Graber said.

“By abandoning his Florida residency nine years ago, Wexler has forfeited his seat in Congress,” Graber said. “He is not eligible to run in 2008 because he falsely claimed he was qualified under the Constitution to run for this office, while it is obvious he is not.”

by Anthony Man

#616 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 11:40 pm

AsianforHillary:

Loved this part of your post!
““There is a growing sense of doom among Democrats I have spoken to . . . People are going crazy, telling the campaign ‘you’ve got to do something’.”

#617 Dem4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 11:41 pm

So, I’m just trying to keep myself composed. Just came from Democratic meetup because i wanted to see some friends and the local self-anointed kool-aid drinker was there talking about how they were just going to change the face of the electorial map in East Tennessee.

I mean SERIOUSLY. hahahahahahaha

But, these WOMEN actually said that they were happy that they saw and heard the “lipstick on a pig” comment yesterday because they thought it was HALARIOUS. Unbelivable

#618 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 11:42 pm

Warrior4Hillary,
Re: “Why I am voting for McCain / Palin,
#342 – GREAT post, may I suggest you re-post it over the weekend so that new visitors & members of media checking in on our site can read it?

#619 atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:42 pm

#594 Gogandalf. I double-checked that number and it was 1-877-553-6227, in case you want to check the original post.

#620 Blue Blue Gal on 09.11.08 at 11:44 pm

605 murphy murphy murphy

they do know how you voted -
i work with the info every day -
they know dem , rep, ind,
early, primary, if you donate, etc -

#621 MARGARITAG588 on 09.11.08 at 11:46 pm

WHY WAS ABC CHOOSEN TO DO THE FIRST INTERVIEW WITH PALIN? WHEN EVERY ONE KNOW’S HOW ABC FEEL’S ABOUT OB.

#622 atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:47 pm

615 terrirobin
That sounds like he has a great case. When I first heard that he was living in his m-i-l’s house in FL, I couldn’t believe that he had gotten away with that for so long. And then the stupe-arse brings all that attention upon himself. What did he expect?

#623 wontbackdown on 09.11.08 at 11:48 pm

Should Have Known This Was Coming

The following is ABC’s headline tonight from Charlie’s interview:

BREAKING NEWS:

EXCLUSIVE: GOV. SARAH PALIN SAYS SHE AGREES TO DISAGREE WITH JOHN MCCAIN ON DRILLING IN ALASKA, SOFTENS STANCE ON GLOBAL WARMING

Dear ABC NEWS (otherwise known as: Obama buys so much advertising from us that we would allege Sarah Palin is a WMD to help him in the polls)

It is hard to fathom that you call this “Breaking News.”

Where is the story here? Where is the earth-shaking scoop? That “Palin has agreed to disagree with John McCain”? That Palin has “soften her stance” on Global Warming”?

It is a sad day in American journalism when ABC News has placed itself in such a prostituted position for Barack Obama that it thinks American voters do not see how utterly ridiculous they are.

Here is the scoop ABC:

BREAKING NEWS! ABC NEWS IS IS NO LONGER A NEWS ORGANIZATION! ABC NEWS IS UNETHICAL, FRAUDULENT AND SO POLITICALLY BIASED THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER QUALIFY AS A JOUNALISTIC NEWS ORGANZATION!

—————————-

P.S. ABC NEWS: It’s called the Anniversary of 9/11. Or, can you spell “Hurricane?” Or, how about “OBAMA CAMPAIGN VOTER FRAUD, WILLIAM AYERS, ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC.”

Next time you think you have a “scoop” Charlie Gibson… check your pants, first… before you waste our time and intelligence.

#624 turndownobama on 09.11.08 at 11:49 pm

PumaResponders alert: Maria is a great puma who dared to write an op-ed. We’ve helped her with online comments but email “Letters to the Editor” are important too in her situation.

mariaconz Says:
I have not gotten even one letter to the editor in support of my PUMA editorial, “Why I’ve left the Democrats”:

press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080909/OPINION01/809090324/1019

If anyone could write a letter in support of my article, another group of letters to the editor will run on Saturday, after the five that ran in the Iowa City Press-Citizen today, and they are ALL NEGATIVE against PUMAs. My editor said so. Not one in support. I know that some of you were kind enough to support me on line, and I really appreciate it. Would anyone be willing to write a letter in support of PUMAs in general and possibly my article in particular to:

pcopinion@press-citizen.com

#625 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 11:50 pm

TENNESSEE
BO – Jim Cooper – Gerard Donovan R
Steve Cohen – - Jake Ford – Independent
Und – Lincoln Davis – Monty Lankford R
Bart Gordon – Chris Baker – Independent
HRC – John Tanner – D – unopposed

#626 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 11:52 pm

Something interesting on Wexler.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,400201,00.html

Wexler said in a statement Tuesday that he knew some constituents were concerned after he said last week he hadn’t had a South Florida home in 11 years. Wexler, his wife and three children have a home in Potomac, Md. Wexler uses his in-laws’ house in a Florida retirement community to meet residency requirements.

#627 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 11:54 pm

#448 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:05 pm

#297 BillieJo – will let Murphy address why some do not have McCain on the top – I can tell you what I did on this project -

——————–

Thanks for explaining (Go)Gandalf and for all your hard work, thank you also Trish and others that worked on this.

#628 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 11:55 pm

580 wontbackdown I don’t understand.

#629 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 11:56 pm

wontbackdown
Great comment! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Could I use that also?

#630 Dem4Hillary on 09.11.08 at 11:56 pm

Gogandalf:
Look I know Steve Cohen, personally. i also know that Steve’s District voted overwhelmingly OVERWHELMINGLY FOR Obama. Steve is a GOOD Democrat, not just good but great. I live in Tennessee, so as a responsible PUMA and Democrat and I am respectfully going to submit that Steve Cohn not be on the PUMA oust list. I think that we should take into account information people are providing. Furthermore, Lincoln Davis is a good man, centrist Democrat, who is NOT campaigning nor endorsing Obama and should remain in office.

#631 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 11:58 pm

Thanks got it Atypical – now I am walking over to my computer and I am really really pushing the off button – I do this every time I get on here – I think maybe I will peek at just one more post and then I have gone on for an hour and a half – early morning tomorrow – so outta here.

#632 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 12:00 am

I didn’t finish my sentence,
I think we should take into account information people provide “from the field”

If we don’t want to endorse Steve Cohen, as a PUMA, I am fine with that. But, he SHOULD NOT be on the oust list. Although he will his race against Jake Ford handily but PUMA should not have Cohen as an oust. We should just disregard the election because it won’t even be close and Steve did go with his district and will continue to be a champion and leader in the House.

#633 Gogandalf on 09.12.08 at 12:00 am

Dem4Hillary – that is exactly what we need to know – not living in Tenn all we can do is provide the facts that are just black and white on the internet – I am sure that Murphy has read your post —- see I did it again – I peeked – no more posts from me tonight. 4AM comes too early…

#634 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 12:01 am

#449 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 10:05 pm

So, now I am hearing from the O’bots that we are going to be engaged in community service. People cannot pay their bills but they are going to go work for free?
————
You are so funny tonight PUMA, I know you meant it seriously….but they are not going to get into the Whitehouse the way it stands…they probably will see Bo down in the polls on November 3rd and will go out bar hopping instead. If they slide in the back door by some werid way of scamming the election AGAIN… then they will have to worry about getting on BO training wheels first and watching MO decorate the white house and buy herself some pill box hats.
We may all be taking a road trip up to stay with Trish!

#635 wontbackdown on 09.12.08 at 12:03 am

#628 Alice1943:

The ticker “BREAKING HEADLINE NEWS” on ABC’s front page is:

“EXCLUSIVE: GOV. SARAH PALIN SAYS SHE AGREES TO DISAGREE WITH JOHN MCCAIN ON DRILLING IN ALASKA, SOFTENS STANCE ON GLOBAL WARMING”

This is so stupid (like they have caught her in some kind of “flip-flop”, like they have “got her now”)

It is such a stupid “Breaking News” on their front page.

NOT ONCE HAVE THEY DONE A “BREAKING NEWS” HEADLINE ON “MASSIVE CAUCUS VOTER FRAUD”, OBAMA’S “FLIP FLOPS”, OBAMA’S LIES ABOUT HIS 20 YEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH DOMESTIC TERROIST, WILLIAMS AYERS (HIS FINANCE GUY), ETC.!

#636 KR on 09.12.08 at 12:03 am

I’m a bit confused about the reasoning for not voting McCain/Palin in MA. and CA., considering they are very Blue States.

I suppose the reasoning is that they are so Blue they would never tip towards Republican?
But didn’t Reagan win CA. in the 80′s? And don’t they have a Republican Governor right now?

I’m in a solid Blue State and am voting McCain/ Palin on the off chance that they could WIN here.

In the meantime, I’m talking them up to everyone I can.
I really think that, as this goes on, and especially once the debates start, they’ll get more and more support.
Isn’t that one of the big reasons Obama refused McCains’ invitation to do the Town Hall Debates across the country: he knew it might make him look bad/lacking too early in the running?

I’m pretty sure that he and Biden will, in fact look pretty bad after the debates, or at least make some O supporters think twice and start getting rational.

So I’d like to re-think this idea of assuming that Obama has the Blue States sewn up and encourage people in those states to…ahem… Vote Republican!

I cannot believe I just said that, but there it is. Said. Done.

#637 murphy on 09.12.08 at 12:08 am

Blue Blue Gal, #662 — I think not. Of course I do not know the regulations in all the states, but in Massachusetts, what they know is

1. I am a Democrat
2. That I checked in to vote on Nov 4th as a Democrat (that’s how they figure out the “likely” voters from the merely “registered” voters.
3. How many votes were cast for the Democratic candidate in my polling place.

When I go to the polls to vote, the party knows that I am a registered Democrat and that I voted on November 4th (although they can’t REALLY know that since maybe I sneaked out of the polling place after checking in)

Put it this way, If 100 people show up to vote, say 60 Democrats and 40 Republicans, and the vote count shows 60 votes for the Dem candidate and 40 votes for the Repub candidate, then the Democratic Party can feel pretty safe in assuming I voted for the Democratic candidate. And the Repub Party can feel pretty safe that each of their 40 party members voted for the Republican. But they cant actually know for certain that each party member voted the party line. Perhaps 2 dems voted repub and 2 repubs voted dem.

If, on the other hand 60 Dems and 40 Repubs show up to vote and the Dem candidate receives 20 votes while the Repub gets 80, then the parties know for sure that many Democrats crossed over and voted for the Repub.

But they dont know exactly which ones.

That’s what a “secret” ballot means.

#638 Alice1943 on 09.12.08 at 12:11 am

623 wontbackdown RIGHT ON, LADY, RIGHT ON!!!!! You rock!

#639 murphy on 09.12.08 at 12:14 am

Demforhillary #630 — absolutely! thank you.

Listen, if an official endorsed Obama after his or her district VOTED for Obama, especially if it was by a big margin, then of course we wouldnt try to oust them.

I mean millions of real, live American citizens VOTED for Obama — in primaries even. Their votes are EQUALLY as valid as ours. Those officials were correct to endorse Obama after their voters voted for him.

We are targeting those Dems who either took big bucks from Obama and then endorsed him, and ESPECIALLY those Dems who not only took big bucks but ALSO endorsed him even though their voters voted for Hillary.

#640 KR on 09.12.08 at 12:14 am

Never had that Breaking News banner that Obama and Biden BOTH voted for the Bridge to Nowhere, either. Nor that they declined to include relief aid to Katrina victims in said Bill.

#641 LotusBoy on 09.12.08 at 12:15 am

Before I say good night to you all.
I just flipped to CNN and watched precious babble about Community Service
2 questions -
1) What did he say specifically? I did not get anything concrete
2) Why do paid people clap before he has conveyed anything

#642 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 12:15 am

#474 Gogandalf on 09.11.08 at 10:14 pm

#367Kempion – are you still on here – what happened to that insider information you got on Biden/Clinton today??? Is it still going on or hit the floor like a broken egg??? You know us inquiring minds..
—————

I agree, what was your inside info you stated yesterday? Biden was going to talk to Bill?

Was it just the nice words Biden said to people yesterday about Hillary, and that Obie got some face time with Bill-could-hardly-contain-some-possible-secret?

#643 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 12:17 am

TOPIC: ABC News
I would like to offer a different perspective on ABC. Frankly, in my opinion they are one of the lesser-biased news outlets. For instance, their Tom Abrahams wrote several fairly objective pieces about PUMA on his website.

I have also observed they have been less strident in their support for Obama than other networks. Lastly, recall it was an ABC news reporter got ARRESTED by the police for trying to cover a (corrupt, no doubt) Democrats breakfast meeting Democrats in Denver. I still wonder to this day if that was the meeting they discussed what to do about Rollcall.

CNN, msnbc are much more in need of a good smackdown, as goanderson would say.

#644 Missy on 09.12.08 at 12:18 am

#635 wontbackdown

NOT ONCE HAVE THEY DONE A “BREAKING NEWS” HEADLINE ON “MASSIVE CAUCUS VOTER FRAUD”, OBAMA’S “FLIP FLOPS”, OBAMA’S LIES ABOUT HIS 20 YEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH DOMESTIC TERROIST, WILLIAMS AYERS (HIS FINANCE GUY), ETC.!
********************
I agree and have posted this same sentiment. While I do not mind the lipstick story, it does amaze me that not one of the networks or MSM has even hinted at the caucus fraud. I keep hoping that FOX will come out with this business closer to the election when the Dems will not have time to recover…crossing my fingers anyway.

#645 Blue Blue Gal on 09.12.08 at 12:19 am

637 murphy
here in tx the sign in sheets are scanned – the unique voter id # is tied to the election headquarter cross reference, so the # matches a name – it goes into a database – it says:
Blue Blue Gal voted Democrat (rep or ind) in primary, (options would be – early voter,)
google the website – http://www.myngp.com – i may have it inccorect it may be dot org – after i post this i will check. i volunteer at party headquarters – this is how they know who to hit up for donations, who is a precinct chair, judge, if they already gave to a down ballot candidate so that they would be a potential presidential donor etc. our votes are not paper ballots anymore – they are in the computer age -

#646 wontbackdown on 09.12.08 at 12:19 am

#638 Alice1943: It’s maddening!

#640 KR: I hear you KR, I hear you!

[Obama and Biden BOTH voted for the Bridge to Nowhere, either. Nor that they declined to include relief aid to Katrina victims in said Bill.]

Is that not “BIG NEWS” or “AN IMPORTANT STORY” when it comes to the issue of Palin?

#647 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 12:20 am

whats this news i just heard about charley rangel in hot water for tax fraud and other corruption

#648 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 12:22 am

OSAKA, my cali friend… whaaats up??????? Hehe

#649 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 12:23 am

hi dem4..yeah i just heard on the news something that charley rangel is in hot water for tax fraud and other things

#650 Nijma on 09.12.08 at 12:24 am

@erickaAZ & Danceswithpumas

it is obama’s birthdate year….
Which also means his parent didnt conceive him during teh Selma march for civil rights in…….. 1964

Hee, hee, hee, my second good laugh today.
As I recall, that was his credential where the AA community decided he had enough AA street cred… and that means…MAYBE HE ISN’T BLACK ENOUGH AFTER ALL…..
hee, hee, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#651 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 12:24 am

#110 Murphy,
I think deals were made today, for sure! Bill looks like a happy camper, that makes me happy, too.

p.s. whatever happened to the “Audacity” teasers on YouTube?

#652 wontbackdown on 09.12.08 at 12:24 am

#644 Missy: I hear you, also. What could be more important to consumers, voters, Americans?

#653 murphy on 09.12.08 at 12:25 am

blue blue gal. thanks for the info.

geez, that is troubling to me.

i like the boston way MUCH better.

#654 Blue Blue Gal on 09.12.08 at 12:25 am

murphy
the site i provided is correct – but to know the info they are able to import you will need to google the company. both parties use this from the info i hear.

#655 Blue Blue Gal on 09.12.08 at 12:27 am

find a puma who volunteers at party headquarters in mass – ask: how do they compile the mailing lists?

#656 KR on 09.12.08 at 12:29 am

#647Osaka-

The Rangle thing has to do with more RE fraud- Rangle hasn’t paid taxes on some rental properties he owns and also (correct me if I’m wrong here), I heard something today about him getting his hands on “low income ” housing, since he’s not trully low income now, is he? lol.

He outed himself about the tax fraud about a month ago, which surprised everybody.

#657 Blue Blue Gal on 09.12.08 at 12:29 am

went to precicnt meeting tonight – husband putting dinner on table in a few for us and our houston hurricane evacuees who arrived prior to my getting home, thank you husband – bbs

#658 goofsmom on 09.12.08 at 12:31 am

#649 Osaka puma

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/nyregion/10rangel.html?em

Article on Rangel owing 5 years back taxes

#659 Missy on 09.12.08 at 12:32 am

Like some of the posts I have read, I too am confused. Why is it that McCain is not recommended as the choice for all the states referenced above? While I can appreciate that there are some PUMAs unwilling to pull the switch for Republicans, and I respect their positions, doesn’t a vote for McCain mean that Obama needsTWO votes to compete? To me, that is reason alone to vote McCain. Isn’t it our goal to ensure that Obama is not elected?
Most people outside of CA think of San Francisco and the Bay Area as being representative of the state (liberal). But, there is a huge republican constituency in our Central Valley and in Southern CA. (We didn’t get Aaah-nold for nothing!)
It might be that I have missed something right in front of my face, but if someone could explain to me why it is that we are not recommending McCain to all PUMAs who feel comfortable with that vote, I would appreciate the enlightenment. Thanks!

#660 EWard on 09.12.08 at 12:34 am

#624 turndownobama

I will try to write a letter tomorrow. Already posted a comment….

#661 pa dem on 09.12.08 at 12:36 am

Kempion: I understood your joke, and I thought it was funny. PUMA PAC releasing their votes to McCain/Palin…..LOL.

#662 antifish on 09.12.08 at 12:37 am

MURPHY,

I researched the GA slate and sent you an email. Enjoy!

#663 wontbackdown on 09.12.08 at 12:38 am

Goodnight everyone. Have some work to do.

#664 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 12:38 am

billiejo,
I just sent NPR a story idea to think about relative to the election, including the link you posted.

All, if you want to suggest a story idea to NPR about delegate intimidation, PUMApac, why you’re voting for Palin, oops, I meant, McCain, or about caucus fraud, you can do so quickly here:

http://www.npr.org/contact/

#665 Right to Vote on 09.12.08 at 12:39 am

#636 KR

I agree with you. We need to start working on BLue State.

#666 greenfun on 09.12.08 at 12:40 am

#642 BilliJo—-Hey girl, have you been over at huffpo?

#667 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 12:46 am

I love going over to the *61 blog and doing a search for content, here is one about PUMAs that I hope they take seriously!

Post from F MARSH’s Blog:
PUMA GROWS MORE DANGEROUS, BY THE DAY
By W.C. – Jul 25th, 2008 at 1:33 am EDT
Also listed in: 1,000,000 Americans for Obama | Walnut Creek/Lamorinda for Obama
Comments | Mail to a Friend | Report Objectionable Content

PUMA HAS BEEN INFILTRATED, AND WE KNOW THEIR EVERY MOVE BECAUSE WE RECEIVE THEIR E-MAILS AND THEIR PREPARED SCRIPTS. THEY’VE REALLY BEEN ON THE PROWL THIS WEEK, CONTACTING MID-WEST AND SOUTHERN SUPER DELEGATES. AS OF THIS DAY, THEY ARE BOMBARDING GOVERNORS, SENATORS AND HIGH-RANKING MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THEIR SPIEL ALWAYS INCLUDES SOME MENTION OF HRC AND THEIR STRONG SUPPORT FOR HER; BARACK’S ILLEGITIMATE WIN; AND THEIR THREAT AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!

THEIR WEBSITE SHUT DOWN ON MONDAY, DUE TO A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF E-MAILS SENT TO :MAMAPUMA@PUMAPAC.ORG. AS I’VE STATED BEFORE PUMA IS A 527 REPUBLICAN ATTACK GROUP; AND UNDER THE GUISE OF PROMOTING HRC THEY ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. PERHAPS WE NEED TO START SENDING E-MAILS OUT OURSELVES. I’M NOT SURE WHY, HRC HAS NOT PUT A STOP TO THIS, BUT IT APPEARS SHE WILL NOT.

PERHAPS WE SHOULD BOMBARD PUMAPAC.ORG WITH OUR SENTIMENTS, AND AS I STATED THE LEADER’S E-MAIL ADDRESS – xxxxx@xxxx! xxxx, HAS KNOWN TO BE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH OLDDIRT FOR YEARS. PUMA IS USING THE GULLIBILITY AND ANGER OF HRC SUPPORTERS TO CAUSE HAVOC – THEY MUST BE STOPPED. IN MIGHT ALSO GALL YOU TO KNOW, THEY ARE PARTICULARLY FOND OF SENDING E-MAILS TO ‘FIX NEWS – HANNITY AND O’REILLY IN PARTICULAR. I FOR ONE, CANNOT STOMACH ‘FIX’ NEWS SO I’M NOT SURE WHAT IS BEING SAID THERE – BUT I HAVE READ, THAT ‘FIX’ IS PARROTING THE PUMA VIEW OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MEMBERS.

PEOPLE, THIS IS WAR, DON’T LET PUMA RUIN THIS ELECTION – WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ELECT, THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND CHARISMATIC CANDIDATE TO COME ALONG SINCE KERRY – DON’T LET PUMA HELP TO IMPLODE THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION OR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!

—————
I have seen emails by this poster before, Lamorinda…close to were I live, and this person thinks Obama is CHARISMATIC like Kerry…………….
:lol:

#668 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 12:48 am

#666 greenfun on 09.12.08 at 12:40 am

#642 BilliJo—-Hey girl, have you been over at huffpo?
——
Hey Greenie, I was over twice…sign as notyourcupcake, and looking for your handle…found it once but can’t remember how I did it.
How about you?

#669 KR on 09.12.08 at 12:48 am

#659Missy-
Have you had any luck encouraging pro Obama voters to take a second look at McCain/Palin in CA?

I’ve got some hope about this situation. The ones who are die-hard Jim Jones koolaid drinkers get upset at the mere notion. But there’s a huge faction out there of people who are “just used to” voting Dem. They are the ones who can be swayed pretty easily I think, especially after the debates.

I guess the question is: how many Obama supporters are off the beam “in love with their master” types and how many have simply never voted Republican, as a matter of habit?

Our impressions of just how many TRUE Obama supporters there are out there may be skewed due to the barrage of rampant and extreme anti -Palin acting out that we’ve witnessed in the past couple weeks.

It could be there is a huge faction of “silent Democrats” who will change their vote along the way.

That’s what I’m betting on.

#670 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 12:51 am

Murphy – you’re still up.

If one is inclined to vote McPlain, what is the harm in doing it for all states? The more votes against the anointed one the more powerful the message.

#671 Gogandalf on 09.12.08 at 12:51 am

Could not sleep so here I am again – but just in time to find Antifish – atypical got a response as you can see below and knowing that you already gave an interview would you be up to talking to Lou Dobbs tomorrow -
I would be as bad as Oboy with my umms and ahhhhs

here is the post:

atypical on 09.11.08 at 11:14 pm I received a couple of replies to my
e-mail sent to media outlets, re: Where’s Michelle?. Some were
automated or out of office responses. However I had a reply from Lou
Dobbs, saying he wanted me to call in to his program between 3-5PM
EDT, however he sent his reply at 6:24CDT so he must mean tomorrow.
Big problem for me; I could never call into a TV station. I would do
an OBie. all over myself. Who wants to make the call?1-877-553-6227
If not I will see if Ladyhawkke could do it – hate to lose such a good opportunity for us.

#672 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 12:53 am

Murphy – I am glad to see the change to Ben Graber in Florida. I believe that Terrirobin #153 was absolutely correct. In addition, the word is that the incumbent, Wexler, doesn’t even live in Florida.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2008/07/22/0722oreilly.html

However, you might want to check into 2 candidates – Murtha-D from PA and Richardson-D from CA. They are listed on the following report: CREW RELEASES FOURTH ANNUAL MOST CORRUPT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS REPORT http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/34046
Sent my money in for Sheila Jackson Lee

#673 antifish on 09.12.08 at 12:53 am

#667 BillieJo,

This really stood out. Kerry charismatic? Really? The guy nearly bored me to tears! LOL! Oh well, good to know we have spies among us. I figured as much.

“WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ELECT, THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND CHARISMATIC CANDIDATE TO COME ALONG SINCE KERRY -”

#674 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 12:54 am

BillieJo,
Too funny what they think about PUMA on obambi’s site. What is up w/that?

Can anyone tell me what happened to the Audacity of Democracy videos that were posted on youtube & why they got pulled. I’ve been asking for daaaaays…thanks!

#675 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 12:54 am

I got the same answer from Lou Dobbs

#676 Cassie on 09.12.08 at 12:55 am

BillieJo
I’ve always wondered if obots come here to “infiltrate”. Sometimes I feel paranoid.

#677 antifish on 09.12.08 at 12:55 am

#671 Gogandalf,

I got the same invitation from Lou Dobbs. I will try to call in tomorrow afternoon. Thanks.

#678 hill4pres on 09.12.08 at 12:56 am

FYI… California District 50 (Duke Cunningham’s old seat) Brian Bilbray (R) in there right now…we want him OUT and vote for Nick Leibham (D)

#679 antifish on 09.12.08 at 12:57 am

#675 (((((((( Sandi ))))))))

How are you doing?

#680 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 12:57 am

antifish,
they may be spies, but they are stupid spies.

Hey, TROLLS! We are LIFELONG DEMOCRATS, I was a precinct worker for Kerry, for crying outloud, stop trying to delude yourselves, your idiocy is laughable but also sad.

#681 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 12:57 am

#673 antifish
I feel the same way, Democrat, white guy……… swift boat …………. boring. Still voted for him because I was a good Democrat.

#682 Gogandalf on 09.12.08 at 12:58 am

ANTIFISH – Y O U are a FANTASTIC Puma – thank you for being here —- HIGH FIVE PAWS – now I can really go to bed and rest -

#683 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 12:59 am

As good “little obedient democrats”, we all voted for Kerry. But this time, “it is time for a change”!!!

#684 queen81 on 09.12.08 at 1:00 am

Hey everyone! went to see the Indigo Girls tonight, so I missed everything…anything major I need to know about?

#685 KR on 09.12.08 at 1:01 am

“PUMA GROWS MORE DANGEROUS BY THE DAY”

L.O.L. Apparently, this bozo does not know that pumas are dangerous wild animals from the moment of birth, NOT pwitty little pwutty cats or kittens.

#686 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 1:02 am

If this link has been posted, I apologize – just got on a few minutes ago http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Carnahan_Theres_no_way_you_can_dress_up_that_record_even_with_a_lot_of_lipstick.html?showall.

#687 greenfun on 09.12.08 at 1:03 am

Hey BillieJo,
I only go there to be an irritant. Where is goandersen?
I sent you an email with a great idea for us.

#688 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 1:04 am

Murphy..just my 2 cents worth. In Colorado I WILL NOT be voting for Ed Perlmutter even though he is the incumbent. He came out strongly in favor of bo in Feb. I wrote asking why. His letter back to me says “although I will fight for whoever is the Democratic nominee, it is my belief that our most promising presidential candidate is Barack Obama. Senator Obama has captured my imagination and represents the promise of hope and change for our country.” He has even changed his signs to read Perlmutter for change. (I hope we really change him!) He was rude to Hillary delegates throughout the caucus system. (I went as far as state and campaigned for national but knew I could never back bo so my heart wasn’t in it.) He is also considered an extremely liberal member of Congress, and if the figures are correct has voted with Pelosi 96.3% of the time. Although the Republican candidate (John Lerew) is new to the political scene, having only interned in Washington, he will have my vote.
Here is a comparison sheet for anyone who wants to check it out. Note that the site is put up by John Lerew but I won’t vote Perlmutter anyway so…..

http://www.lerew2008.com/about/john-lerew-vs-ed-perlmutter/

#689 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 1:06 am

How the Islamic world views Barack HUSSEIN Obamahttp://www.israelunitycoalition.org/news/article.php?id=3123

#690 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:07 am

OMG! Just got an email from Andy Martin, Read this! It makes so… much sense! Could this be the “smoking gun”?

Andy Martin exposes Barack Obama’s lies about William Ayers

(NEW YORK, NY)(September 9, 2008) Nailing down the relationship between “mad bomber” William Ayers and Barack Obama has been the greatest challenge of the 2008 presidential campaign.

The second biggest challenge of 2008 has been deciphering and understanding Barack Obama’s campaign structure. His campaign is unlike any other presidential campaign in U. S. history. Obama’s operation is authoritarian, disciplined and centralized in Chicago. Obama’s reliance on a nationwide network of local “offices” and mailing lists points inexorably to a political latticework straight out of William Ayers’ revolutionary playbook.

The bottom line: After an exhaustive investigation ContrarianCommentary.com can confirm that Barack Obama appears to be William Ayers’ “front” for a national, ongoing Maoist-style revolutionary campaign structure which will endure past November 4th.

Ironically, as we searched for the Ayers-Obama relationship in the present, it was staring us in the face: Obama’s campaign is structured precisely the way Ayers would want. That is why Obama has created “Camp Obamas” across the United States to indoctrinate workers, and adopted other similar Fidel Castro/Hugo Chavez tactics.

The puzzle pieces are finally starting to fall into place. Last week we asked why would Black Panther party revolutionary Khalid Al-Mansour start soliciting money for Obama’s legal education? The answer: Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, were close associates of the Black Panther Party and even unleashed a terrorist attack on a New York judge who heard a Panther case.

In the 1980′s, the Ayers/Dohrn revolutionary terror network was still working through individuals such as Al-Mansour, who had sufficiently laundered his radical past to assume respectability as a front for a Saudi Prince. The same way Ayers laundered his own past to become a professor of “education” at Illinois’ taxpayer-subsidized university.

Ayers and Al-Mansour appear to have been in contact. Ayers vouched for Obama to Al-Mansour, who then began a law school fund-raising campaign among prominent African-Americans.

Obama’s law degree thus appears to have been financed through the encouragement of persons who had been violent revolutionaries and remain unrepentant to this day, the same unconventional way the purchase of Obama’s Chicago mansion was party financed by an Iraqi billionaire.

Why did Obama get hired as a “summer associate” in 1989 at the law firm which had hired Ayers’ wife, and where Ayers’ father was a prominent friend of the managing partner at Sidley & Austin? The answer is obvious. Ayers was grooming Obama as his future “front.”

Where did Obama get his first and only legal job after Harvard? At a law firm where Tony Rezko was a prominent client and where name partner Judson Miner was a law school classmate of Bernadine Dohrn-Ayers. Yes, the pieces are starting to come together.

Was Obama telling ABC the truth when he said met the Ayers’ at a coffee klatch at the Ayers home in 1995? Ayers had already been working with Obama for seven years; Ayers had appointed Obama to head a $50 million foundation. Did Ayers appoint a stranger? Or a front man? The answer is obvious.

Obama has relentlessly tried to conceal the Ayers/Obama time line, and the ongoing connections between the men. When bits and pieces of the Ayers/Obama relationship have popped up this year, Obama has sought to debunk and deflate each isolated piece of information. No one was able to grasp the big picture.

Until today, no one had actually connected all of the dots. ContrarianCommentary.com is the first to do so.

More:

http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/262/Default.aspx

#691 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:07 am

PUMA’s, sorry in advance for the long post, if scrolling down hurts your arm, go get a massage this weekend!

~ ~ ~

* * * The Democratic Party is Corrupt to the Core, Listen Up, TROLLS & MEDIA, THIS ONE’S FOR YOU! * * *

These are the Reasons for the Puma PAC Protest of the 2008 Election

* The DNC punished the VOTERS of Florida and Michigan with DISENFRANCHISEMENT because of the actions of their elected officials. In Florida, Democratic VOTERS WERE DISENFRANCHISED because of the shenanigans of a REPUBLICAN legislature.
* The DNC CHANGED THE VOTES of 600,000 Michiganders on May 31, 2008 when it stole 4 pledged delegates from one candidate and re-pledged them to another.
* The Obama Movement PAID THE SUPERDELEGATES who endorsed Senator Obama. Crucial Super Delegates pledged their support to Obama after the Obama Movement contributed tens of thousands of dollars to them. These were Super Delegates whose constituents had voted overwhelmingly for Senator Clinton in the primaries!!!!!!
* The DNC ALLOWED SEXIST BIAS to handicap THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE RACE. When Tucker Carlson said that Hillary Clinton was a CASTRATOR, the DNC WAS SILENT. When Chris Matthews said that Bill Clinton’s INFIDELITY was the ONLY REASON for Hillary Clinton’s achievements, the DNC WAS SILENT. When the MEDIA CIRCUS unleashed a sexist onslaught of criticism against Senator Clinton regarding: her laugh, her cleavage, her pants, her wrinkles, her earrings, her “bitchiness,” her emotional “instability” the DNC WAS SILENT.
* The DNC and the Obama Movement SUPPRESSED THE VOTES OF CLINTON DELEGATES at the National Convention in Denver. On August 27th, 2008 the DNC and the Obama Movement maneuvered an undemocratic and underhanded voting script to ensure that Hillary Clinton’s pledged delegates (and the 18 million votes they represented) HAD NO VOTE.

Entire state delegations were brow-beaten into voting Present or Passing their votes to other states. August 27, 2008 is a day that will live in infamy for the Democratic National Committee.

If you are a Democrat and you are FED UP with the DNC and the Obama Movement’s tactics, JOIN US

~ ~ ~

PUMA’s, we need to keep repeating this message.
Sigh…

#692 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 1:07 am

OOPs – try again
http://www.israelunitycoalition.org/news/article.php?id=3123

#693 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 1:07 am

680 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 12:57 am

antifish,
they may be spies, but they are stupid spies.
————-
Their tolls actually are on our prowl mailing list and post our prowls, at least they did.

——————–

************ HEY OBAMA SUPPORTERS, FIND OUT WHAT FISA MEANS AND AFTER THAT, ASK OBAMA WHY HE SOLD OUT YOUR RIGHTS OF PRIVACY!!!

FISA – wire tapping, the BS Bush is doing in the Whitehouse that doesn’t need a court order to tap your lines, save your phone calls, watch what you send on the internet, download all those cool songs and movies from Pirates Bay………….yea, you! Check your record and find out if Obama voted YES on FISA….and Hillary kept her word and voted AGAINST it. Why do we admire her and will make sure Obama does not get elected?
Because he STOLE the election, read about the reseach data………….
http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/
Read and be informed… if Obama lies to you before he is elected, do you trust that he will keep his promises to you if he get in the Whitehouse?

#694 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 1:07 am

Hi antifish good to see you

#695 greenfun on 09.12.08 at 1:08 am

I received this from a true hero-a Hillary delegate who stuck to her guns.

Sorry I did not get back to you before the convention. I take my e-mail seriously and try to respond to all. I was overwhelmed by hundreds of e-mails in support of Hillary. I want you to know that I kept my word and voted for Hillary despite strong pressure to do otherwise..

xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx-I wanted to protect her privacy
Kentucky

#696 KR on 09.12.08 at 1:08 am

They are really re-writing history here by putting Kerry and charismatic in the same sentence.

He got my vote, but it had nothing to do with “charisma”.

#697 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:11 am

hi antifish, how are you doing tonight?

I saw billiejo’s post about the bots idiot spies on here thinking we are Republicans. I couldn’t stand it any more so I re-posted part of one of Murphy’s old posts.

Yeah, that “could” be a smoking gun, but as long as it’s on some obscure website, it ‘aint smokin’, I’m afraid…

#698 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:12 am

#682 Gogandalf,

Nitey nite sweet Puma!

#699 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 1:12 am

http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396 says i sent this but i didn’t

#700 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:13 am

greenfun,
Re: I want you to know that I kept my word and voted for Hillary despite strong pressure to do otherwise..”

Be sure & send that email (without her name), to Carrie for the website.

#701 Missy on 09.12.08 at 1:13 am

#669 KR

I am in the Bay Area so my experience has been mixed. To tell you the truth, I’ve talked to many who are afraid to show their preference for McCain, who are reluctant to post signs in their yards, who won’t risk bumper stickers — for fear of retaliation– this is a very diverse area. My husband tells me that he is hearing the same thing at work. People are just reluctant to say anything anti-Obama.
In our area, we know of a family who hosted a fund raiser for Bill Clinton years ago — a prominent (obviously) family, very pro-Dem. They have no signs, no indication at all. We all think that the *absence* of McCain signs in our area is indicative that not all have had the kool-aid. But, that is merely a guess based on what we have witnessed over the many years we have lived in this area. There are Obama signs, but even those are scarce.
On the other hand, I know people in the valley and in the south of CA who are NOT voting for Obama, and who are not afraid to say so. I think there is a large “no-Bama” coalition in Los Angeles.
I really think CA could be a closer race than is being reported, but that is just a gut feeling.

#702 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 1:14 am

690 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:07 am

OMG! Just got an email from Andy Martin, Read this! It makes so… much sense! Could this be the “smoking gun”?
————-
I’m off to send this info to Drudge, Fox, Hillary, Berg and anyone else I can.

At least this one isn’t as bad as the other one I have, I will have to reread the one I have to see if it fits.
Thanks Anti.

Twlight Zone or Hell????????????????????

#703 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:14 am

#697 hillstheone,

He sent me the story in an email. I just posted off the site because it was in a better format. Maybe we should go viral with the email? If we all send it to everyone we know and ask them to forward to everyone they know, it will get attention. What do you all think?

#704 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 1:15 am

hey antifish you ready to go back to Denver lol

#705 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 1:15 am

#695 greenfun on 09.12.08 at 1:08 am

I received this from a true hero-a Hillary delegate who stuck to her guns.

————-
Awesome!

#706 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:18 am

sandipuma,
I tried to watch it but I couldn’t get past the first sentence, how dare that be the first question out of the box, the interviewer is incredibly biased & comes off very condescending to me. He should be asking Obama that very question.

Still, all in all ABC hasn’t been as bad as some networks. I guess that’s not saying much, though.

#707 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 1:19 am

anti….you really need to read obama the postmodern coup. There are so many things in there I haven’t heard about before. Starts out as heavy reading but gets easier. I wrote to a university professor of political science and asked him to read it and let me know his feelings. He claims Brzezinski (yes, father of Mika on MSNBC) actually recruited bo at Columbia 25 years ago and likens him to a Manchurian Candidate.

#708 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:20 am

#684 queen,

I LOVE the Indigo Girls! I’m sure they were fantastic, as usual. They are here this Saturday, but I had plans already before I found out. I’ve seen them at least a dozen times. Lucky you!

#709 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:20 am

antifish #697, it’s worth a try I guess!
If I promise to send it to all my friends, will you promise to buy me a drink when I come visit Atlanta in November, lol..

I am very excited about visiting Atlanta, btw, & I hope we can organize a nice little PUMA party for all local or not local PUMA’s who can come!

#710 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:21 am

Sandi,

The only way I’m going back to Denver is if we get to redo the role-call vote for real this time! LOL!

#711 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:23 am

#709 hillstheone,

I don’t know about getting the Pumas here together. We tried this weekend and only got three people. As I told you, they are from other sites, so I guess they decided to move on after Denver.

I will buy you a drink though! :D

#712 A_MALE_PUMA on 09.12.08 at 1:23 am

OK,

I’ve been reading the list. Gabrielle Giffords in AZ got $9,000 from the Obama campaign as a superdelegate, acccording to Lynette Long’s Info. I am a constituent and Hillary won in her district. I know she’s not voting as a Congressional Rep, but then again that shows she’s not listening to her constituency. I have a problem voting for her, but if we look at too many superdelegates will we end up not electing a Democratic Congress? I’m struggling with that.

The buying off of delegates is just a symptom of how undemocratic the system has become, IMHO. It needs an overhaul, and it looks like PUMA PAC will be the shop that does it!

Take care PUMA’s, especially those on the Texas Coast.

#713 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:25 am

#707 Taffy,

Is that a book? I’m still trying to get through “Obama Nation” and haven’t started “The Case Against Barack Obama”. Guess I’ll have to take some time off from the blog to read.

#714 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 1:26 am

Sandi…actually it’s really nice in Denver now :D It cooled down the following week and I’ve even been using the furnace! supposed to get out of the 60′s and up to a whopping 82 on Monday!

#715 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 1:27 am

I cannot believe this from these people…. HAHAH puma has been infiltrated we are receiving their emails.

Yes and I have infiltrated other groups that I want to keep a watch on by requesting emails from that group. Guys do you think Obama receives the daily emails from the McCain campaign, I think so, that is how it works.

Now my question from these folks, like the DEMOCRATS who I talked to tonight is this… If we are truly fringe, if you have this new excited base of young voters this new excited base of people who’ve never voted before, this new excited base of people who are flocking from GWB as you like to insinuate, then why does it bother you SOOO MUCH that a bunch of “bitter old women” get together on the internet and plot.

You all are the same type of people who plot on the internet, why can’t we plot too. You know we have nothing better to do with our lives, as you all like to point out, than to plot. So, what does it matter to you. You have all these new YOUNG voters who are going to save the party.

#716 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 1:31 am

Anti…it’s by Webster Griffin Tarpley and is totally different from any other anti bo book I’ve seen. Goes clear back to Carter as the start of this trend. Talks about how Bush has served a purpose and his kind now needs to move on so next phase can be put in place. Talks about how grass roots movements have been used in the past to bring Hitler and Mussolini into power and how we may be facing war with Russia and China if bo gets in. very scary! and this from an anti Hillary who now says we need her!!!

#717 KR on 09.12.08 at 1:32 am

#690antifish-

okay, that was one creepy little post up there re. authoritariansm, Marxism, etc. in the Obama campaign. Here’s why:
I noticed a couple days ago, for the first time, in a clip from his acceptance speech at the convention a startling thing:

Everybody in the “audience” was sitting straight forward, holding their sea of “OBAMA” signs at the SAME LEVEL and in the SAME direction. They ALL had the exact same signs.

And I thought, my god, I have never ever seen such an image of “group think” in the United States. Ever. Mussolinis’ Italy, yes. Hitlers’ Germany, yes. Maos’ China, yes.

But never. ever. in the USA.

It made me re-think some of the chatter I’d heard here about Obama being kind of Fascist.

And then I contrasted that to the Republican Convention (the _first_ one_ I’ve ever watched in my life!) and how the people in the audience were jumpin’ around, wearing silly hats, waving signs in all directions, some of them hand made!- a kind of joyful ode to individualism.

That image from the Dem Convention really rattled me and I cannot for the life of me think how I missed it the first time around.

#718 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:32 am

#711 OK antifish, but I’m betting we can get at least one or two to join us!

PUMA’s: here is who I sent antifish’s #690 article w/ link to, have at it and when next we PUMA’s get together, we’ll toast to you.

shuster@msnbc.com, abrams@msnbc.com, ontherecord@foxnews.com, LindaMuller@Buchanan.org, yourcomments@foxnews.com, SPECIAL@FOXNEWS.COM, FRIENDS@FOXNEWS.COM, colmes@foxnews.com, HANNITY@FOXNEWS.COM, rmaddow@airamerica.com, 2020@abc.com, 48hours@cbsnews.com, 60minutes@cbsnews.com, abcnews@abcnews.com, americasnewsroom@foxnews.com, cavuto@foxnews.com, Colmes@foxnews.com, comments@foxnews.com, earlyshow@cbs.com, editor@usatoday.com, EIRushbo@eibnet.com, evening@cbsnews.com, Foxreport@foxnews.com, ftn@cbsnews.com, geraldo.rivera@foxnews.com, gretawire@fox.com, Hannity@foxnews.com, hardball@msnbc.com, hemmer@foxnews.com, hume@foxnews.comi, info@ap.org, info@cnbc.com, joe@msnbc.com, letters@latimes.com, letters@msnbc.com, letters@newsweek.com, letters@nytimes.com, letters@time.com, letters@washpost.com, loudobbs@cnn.com, me@glennbeck.com, morning@npr.org, moyersonpbs@thirteen.org, netaudr@abc.com, newshour@pbs.org, nightline@abcnews.com, nightly@nbc.com, nytnews@nytimes.com, ombudsman@washpost.com, Oreilly@foxnews.com, phil.boyce@citcomm.com, primetime@abcnews.com, readers.rep@latimes.com, rush@eibnet.com, senioreditor@nytimes.com, special@foxnews.com, thisweek@abcnews.com, tips@upi.com, today@msnbc.com, totn@npr.org, weekendlive@foxnews.com, wsj.ltrs@wsj.com, yourworld@foxnews.com

#719 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:36 am

#717 KR,

Yes, I’m amazed at BO’s power over some people. All I have to say is I’m glad I was never taken in. Thank you, Hillary Clinton!

#720 queen81 on 09.12.08 at 1:36 am

Hillstheone- count me in for November!

#721 NewOrleansPuma on 09.12.08 at 1:37 am

#143EWard: For the record: Michelle Obama has injected herself in the public issues of the day and this election cycle by activing campaigning all around the country, and by constructing at the Democratic Convention another reconstruction of her fraud of a husband and fraud of a candidate. What she says, does not say, how she says it and everything else she does, is as much fair game as any other political surrogate.
If your wife or your husband is on the stump campaiging, then what they say or do or do not say or do there is game. One can not have it both ways…One is either publicly in the play, and she obviously is, or one is not. This is Hole in Soul Michele, this is the purveyor of invective as much as her fraud of a candidate husband.

#722 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:38 am

Dem4Hillary,
LOL! “You all are the same type of people who plot on the internet, why can’t we plot too…So, what does it matter to you. You have all these new YOUNG voters who are going to save the party.”

BBBBBBBWWWWAAAaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!

You made me laugh & I needed that. Hey, all that the GOP needs to do to derail Obama is throw in some X-boxes into the college dorm rooms, supply the Hopey-changey Bongs and free KoolAid for all. nite-nite, nappy time for all the big “change” voters.

No worries though, I’m still happy cause Bill Clinton looked happy today.

On that note, I think I need to get to bed, “rise & shine” comes early for me.

Haven’t said this in a while so here it is:
“Goodnight, comb,
Goodnight, brush,
Goodnight to the old lady at the DNC Rules Committee pounding her gavel & whispering ‘HUSH!”

#723 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:39 am

#718 hillstheone,

Yeah, we should be able to get a couple. lol!

I sent the email I recieved to all those media outlets you posted. Let’s see what happens.

#724 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:40 am

queen81 – Definitely! You best block out the week before Thanksgiving week until we set the date. I hope lotsa puma’s can join us.

#725 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:41 am

antifish,
cool, a late-nite mini-prowl. Hope others join in, too.
Hey people, post on here & brag if you join in.
See ya tomorrow!

#726 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:42 am

#716 Taffy,

Thank you. I’ll get it and try to find time to read it. :)

#727 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 1:43 am

hillstheone:

Goodnight, comb,
Goodnight, brush,
Goodnight to the old lady at the DNC Rules Committee pounding her gavel & whispering ‘HUSH!”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL,

(holding myself from peeing) hahahahahahahahah
hahahahahahaah

#728 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:44 am

Nite hillstheone!

#729 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 1:45 am

This is indeed a horrendous article. But is it a harbinger of things to come if they think that bo has converted from the Muslim faith to Christianity? Or will bo be carrying his prayer carpet and the wife and daughters be wearing burkas?
http://www.israelunitycoalition.org/news/article.php?id=3132

#730 Firefly on 09.12.08 at 1:49 am

Since the Obama campaign was successful in stealing the Democratic nomination, does it not follow that they’d do anything to steal the election as well? If you leave the top of the ballot blank, can some election thief put in Obama’s name. I am under the impression that if you are a registered Democrat, your vote will be counted for the Democratic candidate whether or not you write his name on the ballot. Wouldn’t marking xxxx (if not writing in McCain/Palin or some third party) work better instead of leaving the top blank. If that is allowed, that should make it more difficult for ballot thieves to insert Nobama’s name on it. Just wondering.

#731 KR on 09.12.08 at 1:49 am

#701Missy-

I relate totally to your experience in the Bay Area. I also confess to being a big enough weenie at this point to not being at all able to put a sign for McCain in front of my house!

Which is why I’m taking it directly to the people! I talk easily with strangers I bump into during the day. So that’s where I’m starting.

I figure it’s harder to hit a moving target.

#732 LaureyPuma on 09.12.08 at 1:50 am

#636, KR: I agree. I live in a blue state as well. Although I may hope my state’s color will change on Nov. 4th, my joy will come from exercising the ultimate protest against a dangerously ill-equipped candidate who robbed me of the legitimate one. The roll call was a joke – the real catharsis will be my vote.

#733 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 1:52 am

There is an email that is now being sent around about bo’s Jewish connection. It seems that mo has a cousin who is the rabbi of a large black synagogue in Chicago. As I have told people who send this to me – “You can choose your friends, but you can’t choose your relatives”. bo has made his choices. With a Jewish cousin who is a rabbi, I guess it didn’t bother them to sit in a church that supported the black liberation theory and had anti-semitic ravings.
http://www.forward.com/articles/14148/

#734 bettyboo on 09.12.08 at 1:54 am

Mike Doyle is running unopposed, we are having a grass roots effort here to have people write in Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton name, to send a message, Mike refused to back Senator Clinton for president, please all in Mike Doyle District write in Senator Clinton’s name, support this effort in PA…
Sincerely Je’Amour (BettyBoo)

http://democracyinsuffrage.blogspot.com/

Sincerely

Ms. Je’Amour P. Matthews “BettyBoo”

#735 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:55 am

INFO:

If you do the little prowl above, you will receive a anti-spam verification email from Glen Beck. Make sure you verify by clicking on the link and entering the code.

#736 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:57 am

Hey Je’Amour!

Good to see you made it back from Denver in one piece. It was a pleasure meeting you and protesting with you. I love your spirit!

#737 NewOrleansPuma on 09.12.08 at 1:57 am

Re “Spys Among Us”: Dear Spies among us…Isn’t this a fun place to spy? Certainly, you can easily see all of the Republican sentiment here?? Listen…Spies supposedly among us…Go back to your fraud of a candidate and to your brainwashed sites and tell everyone that , indeed, we Pumas are dangerous. We have the AUDACITY to continue to protest the illegal candidacy of empty suit, Obambi and guess what? We are to continue to do that plus whatever else moves us as fun and effective.
We are not citizens of the world. We also know where we were born…in contrast to multicountry Alinsky clone Obimba. So, “spies among us…keep spying…there is so much more interesting things going on here than what you goofballs are doing!

#738 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 1:58 am

Commenting on post #731 KR

I wonder how many of us, when push come to shove ,
will admit that this particular candidate has instilled a fear in us. Whether directly or indirectly caused by him, we feel that if we displayed any sign of preference towards anyone other than him, we have this fear of RETRIBUTION AND RETALIATION. Whether we care to admit it or not… it was the same with Hillary and now it is the same with McCain. We are somehow afraid to put our yard sign out or a sticker on our car.

This is not right and I wonder at what point it started to happen and why it happened.

#739 LaureyPuma on 09.12.08 at 1:58 am

#701 Missy: I think you are correct. I had to take my McCain bumper sticker off my car because of a small group of Obots. Of all of the people I know – be it in my personal or professional life, the overwhelming majority are voting for McCain. I live in L.A.

I think California will be closer than most people think also. Even if Obama does take the state, it sends a message when that formidable, former gap is significantly narrowed.

#740 antifish on 09.12.08 at 2:02 am

#738 freddiebrown,

As someone who is also afraid to put a McCain sign in my yard after having a Hillary one for several months, I can only say that it’s not worth the possible retaliation that I may face. Many of the people who support Obama just seem irrational and hateful. I don’t know what it is about him that inspires that.

#741 pooh496 on 09.12.08 at 2:03 am

Just stopped by to post this e-mail I recieved from MS Bosely. I was so happy to hear that she stood strong for our Hillary!

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:24 PM

Sorry I did not get back to you before the convention. I take my e-mail seriously and try to respond to all. I was overwhelmed by hundreds of e-mails in support of Hillary. I want you to know that kept my word and voted for Hillary despite strong pressure to do otherwise.. Moretta BosleyKentucky

#742 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 2:03 am

WOW i just got a letter from Andy Martin too

#743 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:04 am

#701 Missy on 09.12.08 at 1:13 am

#669 KR
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I’m in the Bay Area and Hillary won our state. Obama is the new Moonies of our area too and most Hillary supporters are back in the closet except for me.
I get daily negative feedback but at least many can’t deny that I am more informed then they are and talk circles around them thanks to all my PUMA friends here that pass so much info my eyes almost bleed at night.
:roll:
I live in Walnut Creek, and see very few political signs at all…not sure what that means.

#744 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 2:06 am

sending out these letters were worth it antifish

#745 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:06 am

#742 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 2:03 am

WOW i just got a letter from Andy Martin too
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I hate to sound like a dumb PUMA but who is this Andy Martin? I have sent his email info to Drudge, Berg and Fox so far.

#746 antifish on 09.12.08 at 2:07 am

#741 Pooh,

Maybe we shouldn’t post their names on here unless they say it’s OK? Don’t want to cause trouble for them.

#747 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:08 am

#718 hillstheone on 09.12.08 at 1:32 am

#711 OK antifish, but I’m betting we can get at least one or two to join us!
———–
I’m doing it too…I will start from the bottom of the list.
Thanks for re-posting the list.

#748 NewOrleansPuma on 09.12.08 at 2:09 am

freddiebrown: Intimidation has been an integral underbelly tactic of the Obimbo campaign from the beginning almost 11 months ago. It started and continues in the utter degenerate threats and vile disdain for others in every single Obamablogger on every single site out there. It continued in caucuses;
It continued in reports, remember? of trashing of cars;
Remember Alinsky methods of deconstructing a group or an individuals point of view does not preclude any method. Any and all means may be used. Moreover, the topside phony proclamations of so called hight tone rhetoric by Obimbo while the underbelly tactics continue are precisely the same methods used by every revolutionary, socialist, fascist socieatal move in the history of the West. This is a radical, dangerous man and history will show that wheter he wins, God help us or whether he loses.
This is also the main reason why from the beginning until now I totally reject not voting for one of the two candidates up in the election. He has already shown as well the unbridled use of attempted voter registration fraud and I know he will continue that all the way through the election day. We need every vote against him and for the opposition. I do not think this election can afford to take votes off the table anywhere.

#749 antifish on 09.12.08 at 2:09 am

Andy Martin is a legendary Chicago muckraker, author, Internet columnist, radio talk show host, broadcaster and media critic. He is currently based in New York selling his new book, Obama: The Man Behind The Mask. Andy is the Executive Editor and publisher of http://www.ContrarianCommentary.com. © Copyright by Andy Martin 2008. Martin comments on regional, national and world events with over forty years of experience. He holds a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Illinois College of Law.

His columns are also posted at ContrarianCommentary.blogspot.com; contrariancommentary.wordpress.com.

#750 queen81 on 09.12.08 at 2:11 am

My original plan was to put my McCain bumper sticker next to my Hillary bumper sticker so that it would be obvious that I was protesting. I am a bit skiddish of that now and will just put my McCain sticker on for the safety of my vehicle. I don’t really give a damn if people want to assume I’m a republican. I know I’m not and don’t feel the need to justify that to anyone.

#751 DancesWithPumas on 09.12.08 at 2:12 am

674 hillstheone
Brad Mays mentioned on the PUR radio program with Sheri, Murphy, and Riverdaughter last week, that he was pulling the video off YouTube. He might have said that he was making the film from a different angle now… but, I’m not sure.

#752 pooh496 on 09.12.08 at 2:12 am

I sent the Andy Martin story to all the e-mails listed. I hope they get the point. Lol!

#753 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 2:12 am

freddie…very easy to answer. started at our precinct caucus (can’t speak for other precincts because by time it was over we just wanted out of there!) in Colorado when we walked in and entire place was plastered with bo signs and people were trying to put stickers on everyone. really stood out who didn’t have them! Then bo people were registered first, edwards second, and Hillary people last. When it came time to talk bo people were allowed to go first. Then it waas interesting to find out some “Hillary” supporters were actually bo supporters and joined Hillary group because it was smaller and they wanted to get on to the county convention. Never knew after that who you could trust! And we only have one yard sign in our neighborhood. For bo. Usually there are 8-10 on our block.

#754 antifish on 09.12.08 at 2:13 am

Thank you to all who are doing the mini-prowl for tonight. Please try to keep it going as others come in.

It’s 2:11 here in GA and my Puma ears and eyelids are drooping. Goodnight ((((((((((( Pumas ))))))))))

#755 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 2:14 am

obama has lost support in some of the liberal left areas such as LA and the bay area..
all that obama mania silliness has toned down somewhat because obama has flip flopped on so many issues dear to libs and the left..
obama is starting to look just like another politician…
obama had a huge lead over mccain before but that lead has been cut to 9 points in cal

#756 NewOrleansPuma on 09.12.08 at 2:15 am

Good night, antifish!

#757 RonniPUMA on 09.12.08 at 2:16 am

I also had a hillary sign in my yard and now have a mc in yard
I put mc bumper sticker on my car too
In protest I want them to know what they have done to me.
not that dnc cares but it really hurts that we have to do this change over.
Hillary was by far the smartest one like she said which part didnt they like the peace or prosperity

#758 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:17 am

#723 antifish on 09.12.08 at 1:39 am

#718 hillstheone,

Yeah, we should be able to get a couple. lol!

I sent the email I recieved to all those media outlets you posted. Let’s see what happens.
————-
Did you send the all in one email – will the server handle all at once?

#759 pooh496 on 09.12.08 at 2:17 am

Antifish, maybe you should put the letter and e-mail addresses together and then post them every once in awhile so people don’t have to follow the posts back like I did. Lol!

#760 RonniPUMA on 09.12.08 at 2:17 am

my god world wake up and get off that coolaid

#761 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 2:22 am

i feel really “hip” and “cool” being up late at night discussing politics with a bunch of PUMAS..sort of makes me feel “bohemian”..
:lol:

#762 NoMoreInFL on 09.12.08 at 2:28 am

Wow…what my mind is swirling from reading tonight! First I was laughing, then just reading and then Antifish…bam between the eyes!

*61 is a sleeper. When I was young, my mom married a man that worked for the government and we moved to the D.C. area. He made us eat healthy way before it was even considered, no TV, stringent manners, etc.

Once when he was talking…he stated that our country was coming down from the inside out. He left for work one day and never returned. The F.B.I. came to our house looking for him. He was a communist after the secrets of our government.

When I first say *61, something went off inside like a siren. Could not explain but he is a sleeper…groomer to destroy our country from the inside out!

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#763 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:29 am

#749 antifish on 09.12.08 at 2:09 am

Andy Martin is a legendary Chicago

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Thanks Anti

#764 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 2:29 am

so, Ive been playing with math tonight, because it helps to focus after dealing with self-annointed people who are political virgins who put themselves in charge of Obama’s campaign in East Tennessee because even obama knows he can’t win here. So, these women declare themselves the know it all go to people for this campaign.

They talked tonight about how what we’re going to see in East Tennessee is going to be unprecedented. God, I could go on and on, but I’m going to just talk about numbers because even though they want to preach about a new kind of politics, it still comes down to numbers and these red necks in East Tennessee aint gonna vote themselves a Democrat, no matter what and I’ve looked back since 2000 and it has gotten worse. I couldn’t find data for 1996 for my specific county other to find out that my county, Knox county, tn, did NOT VOTE FOR BILL CLINTON in either 1992 or 1996.

But, what I did find since 2000 is astounding and it cracks me up that this woman tonight truly believes she is going to change the electorial map single handedly by switching East Tennessee… Okay.

Anyway:

Gore lost this county by 25,882 votes in 2000 and the spread was 57.6% Bush to 40.49% Gore

Now, from 2000-2004 Knox County saw a population increase of approximately 18,142 people

In 2004 Kerry lost this county by 44,790 votes and the spread was 62.10% to 37.00%. Now get this, from 2000-2004 the Republicans picked up 23,952 voters that means the republicans gained more votes than the net population gain in the county and showed a 27.5% increase in voters from the 2000 election.

The 2004 Democratic performance had Kerry with 37% of the vote and an overall voter increase of 5,044 votes or an 8.27% increase in total number of Democratic voters from 2000. That means for every single voter the Democrats gained in this county from 2000-2004 the Republicans gained approximately 5 voters.

Now here comes the real shocker that its like, if this self-annointed Queen Obamite really thinks about this and thinks about the fact that she has done NOTHING yet to GOTV for obama here, she is going to get her face smashed on election day… hahaha here it comes

2004-2006 we had a major senatorial race in 2006 so i wanted to see how we did in voter turnout. The Democrats had a 19% decrease in voter turnout from 2004-2006 and the Republicans had a 37% decrease in this county from 2004-2006 and the Republican STILL carried the county by 13 percentage points. That means that 17% less Republicans turned out from 2004 to 2006 than Democrats and the Republicans STILL won the race in this county….

DOES THIS WOMAN seriously think that “new politics” is going to win it here? McCain is polling overall in this state by 24 points (according to the last poll taken just after the DNC) I mean seriously.

I won’t even get started on how they legally have to form a PAC in order to raise money for a headquarters, phones, gear, etc if they don’t have national money, which trust me, they don’t.

WTF do they think is going to happen here? hahahahaha, Hillary would not have carried this county. She COULD have carried the state but she would not have carried this county and I would have worked my heart and as- off for her here.

NOW, I just want to go to the headquarters and go in and sit down and prop my feet up and bring a bag of popcorn, pop it, and eat it. Drink a coke and watch the show because there are going to be these koolaid drinking queens running around trying to prove that they can single handedly change the electorial map with “new politics” and they are going to take an even bigger defeat than in 2004 and I’m going to LOL but i really want to spend five minutes, eating some popcorn and watching the show, LITERALLY. Because I deserve it.

#765 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:31 am

#750 queen81 on 09.12.08 at 2:11 am

My original plan was to put my McCain bumper sticker next to my Hillary bumper sticker so that it would be obvious that I was protesting.

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I have a big Hillary sicker on my car, and after denver cut out the PUMApac paw with web link on it and stuck it connected to my Hillary sticker. I like listening to McCain right now on tv, wish he was a Democrat. Not ready for any Rep sticker. A vote is as far as I can go.

#766 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:32 am

goodnight Go

#767 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 2:33 am

Goodnight Antifish

#768 EWard on 09.12.08 at 2:35 am

#690 antifish

I just printed the Andy Martin article connecting the dots between BO and Ayers over at ABC on one of the blogs about Palin. Excellent piece of journalism…..

#769 pooh496 on 09.12.08 at 2:35 am

Andy Martin exposes Barack Obama’s lies about William Ayers

(NEW YORK, NY)(September 9, 2008) Nailing down the relationship between “mad bomber” William Ayers and Barack Obama has been the greatest challenge of the 2008 presidential campaign.
The second biggest challenge of 2008 has been deciphering and understanding Barack Obama’s campaign structure. His campaign is unlike any other presidential campaign in U. S. history. Obama’s operation is authoritarian, disciplined and centralized in Chicago. Obama’s reliance on a nationwide network of local “offices” and mailing lists points inexorably to a political latticework straight out of William Ayers’ revolutionary playbook.
The bottom line: After an exhaustive investigation ContrarianCommentary.com can confirm that Barack Obama appears to be William Ayers’ “front” for a national, ongoing Maoist-style revolutionary campaign structure which will endure past November 4th.
Ironically, as we searched for the Ayers-Obama relationship in the present, it was staring us in the face: Obama’s campaign is structured precisely the way Ayers would want. That is why Obama has created “Camp Obamas” across the United States to indoctrinate workers, and adopted other similar Fidel Castro/Hugo Chavez tactics.
The puzzle pieces are finally starting to fall into place. Last week we asked why would Black Panther party revolutionary Khalid Al-Mansour start soliciting money for Obama’s legal education? The answer: Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, were close associates of the Black Panther Party and even unleashed a terrorist attack on a New York judge who heard a Panther case.
In the 1980’s, the Ayers/Dohrn revolutionary terror network was still working through individuals such as Al-Mansour, who had sufficiently laundered his radical past to assume respectability as a front for a Saudi Prince. The same way Ayers laundered his own past to become a professor of “education” at Illinois’ taxpayer-subsidized university.
Ayers and Al-Mansour appear to have been in contact. Ayers vouched for Obama to Al-Mansour, who then began a law school fund-raising campaign among prominent African-Americans.
Obama’s law degree thus appears to have been financed through the encouragement of persons who had been violent revolutionaries and remain unrepentant to this day, the same unconventional way the purchase of Obama’s Chicago mansion was party financed by an Iraqi billionaire.
Why did Obama get hired as a “summer associate” in 1989 at the law firm which had hired Ayers’ wife, and where Ayers’ father was a prominent friend of the managing partner at Sidley & Austin? The answer is obvious. Ayers was grooming Obama as his future “front.”
Where did Obama get his first and only legal job after Harvard? At a law firm where Tony Rezko was a prominent client and where name partner Judson Miner was a law school classmate of Bernadine Dohrn-Ayers. Yes, the pieces are starting to come together.
Was Obama telling ABC the truth when he said met the Ayers’ at a coffee klatch at the Ayers home in 1995? Ayers had already been working with Obama for seven years; Ayers had appointed Obama to head a $50 million foundation. Did Ayers appoint a stranger? Or a front man? The answer is obvious.
Obama has relentlessly tried to conceal the Ayers/Obama time line, and the ongoing connections between the men. When bits and pieces of the Ayers/Obama relationship have popped up this year, Obama has sought to debunk and deflate each isolated piece of information. No one was able to grasp the big picture.
Until today, no one had actually connected all of the dots. ContrarianCommentary.com is the first to do so.
More:
http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/262/Default.aspx
1. shuster@msnbc.com,
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#770 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 2:37 am

I am reading each post above and I can’t believe it. I can, but I keep thinking that it is not right. Is there a certain demographics out there that we think will cause this kind of threat ? I mean, I have spoken to some serious Obama followers in their 50′s and above.. regular folks – I don’t think they will do anything. I feel that it is the younger folks (not necessarily white folks ) that are more likely to do this. I am just trying to understand this because I don’t recall anything like this.

#771 purrrNona on 09.12.08 at 2:37 am

As a realtor, I have long working hours so haven’t been able to read every comment. I hope everyone noticed (and, I’m sure I’m at least a day late mentioning) that Bill O’Reilly wore an orange tie when he interviewed Barack Obama. Did Barack notice?

Bill O’Reilly was quite the well-known anchor man in Portland, Oregon for many years prior to his Fox News position. Being a Porlander, I think I’ll re-connect with Bill.

Gosh, what is it about this election that has me no longer ever listening to CNN and finding relief at Fox News?

#772 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 2:39 am

poor hillary..what rotten luck… if obamas rev wright connections had been aired before the iowa primary and if edwards cheating had been outed then hillary would be the nominee now. just rotten luck

#773 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 2:47 am

hey osaka,
did you see my comment, I want to go to the Nobama headquarters, take my popcorn, bring my camp chair, prop up my feet and watch the idots run around and “change the face of the electorial map” in a place that even Bill Clinton didn’t carry for the GE in EITHER 1992 or 1996.

I went to a Dem event tonight to see some friends and saw the local self-annointed Obamqueen, too.

She’s an idot.

I’m calling tomorrow to see if they are even legally set up to collect and spend money locally for the campaign.

#774 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 2:48 am

dem4.. you are a brave woman..i admire your guts..dealing with obots would be very aggravating to me.. i would lose it and go off on them..
:lol:

#775 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 2:52 am

I have been working and not keeping up since 6 pm – I am getting it… took a few tries scrolling but I think Pooh’s post # 769 — email the A.M.’s letter to all the media addresses posted… I got it now.

Nice to do something useful and constructive. I think Anti Fish’s idea – Greeat idea…anyway you wrap it, it is still AntiFish.

#776 NoMoreInFL on 09.12.08 at 2:55 am

No osaka puma..I am beginning to believe more and more that evil that is attempting to destroy our country has to be stopped, especially after visiting the site Antifish posted.

If Hillary won…the sleepers would of just waited a while longer and no one would of done the research that has happened nor would there become PUMAS across this country that has said…

Country before Party! It would of been “his” time but that time is never!

#777 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 2:56 am

Anyone still here ? We don’t have to send the email individually, right? We can do a BCC so it doesn’t show up that we spammed everyone. The prowl can be done in just one email. I usually send myself one at the end of the BCC so that I know it went out.

#778 purrrNona on 09.12.08 at 2:56 am

#772 osaka puma
I totally agree with you.

#779 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 2:57 am

I just didn’t talk to her, because she’s literally a political virgin. She knows nothing other than what her savior tells her, it’s ridiculous. Even local attorneys have sort of left her to her own devices. At least in 2004 we had an infrastructure in place.

She actually said tonight “well we’re doing targeted registration and we’re registering DEMOCRATS”

I’m like, dumbass, wtf do you think we’ve been doing. We didn’t go to the most expensive part of town and set voter reg. And it’s illegal to ask for party affiliation in Tennessee. So, what, she thinks this, what? New Politics?

hell we’ve got the technology, now to look at a database and find precincts with high turnout in areas that vote Democratic. you find the HOUSES in those precincts with NO political activity and you register THOSE people. Then you call them, you make sure they get to the polls. That’s targeted registration and I know they are not that refined because they don’t even have a legal means to collect money.

She’s so stupid or ignorant that she doesn’t know that a PAC is required to collect and spend money because she says that since Obama is NOT accepting PAC money, then there will be no PACs. Well in order for her to legally set up a campaign here and accept money, she HAS to set up a PAC and I have every intention of calling to find out if it has been set up. Which I doubt.

There is no way to open an account and have purchasing power or to have power to even sign for a headquarters if she is NOT a PAC. Geeze and it could be as simple as Knoxville for obama.

I don’t care if someone on here is reading this. Y’all in Knoxville are already 6 months behind the Kerry campaign of 2004 and 12 months behind the Gore campaign of 2000. So, if you’re reading this and do what I say, you’re still behind and you’re still idiots for beliving that you’re going to change the face of the electorial map through voters in East Tennessee.

#780 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 3:01 am

nomore… i think you are seeing the same handwriting on the wall I am..
i dont want to sound corny..but I feel like it’s “Apocalypse Now”..
the america we grew up with and knew is dying..it was a beautiful dream that i feel so privileged and happy to have experienced..
we are heading into the pits of hell..

#781 EWard on 09.12.08 at 3:07 am

#777 freddiebrown

Ditto!

#782 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 3:07 am

Mini prowl done . There are 10 undeliverable emails that got kicked back.

#783 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 3:11 am

i see we have some nocturnal feeding pumas in the room that like doing their prowling at night :lol:

#784 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 3:11 am

There is something that is very troublesome. If what Andy Martin says is true, if bo is some type of a sleeper, the fact that the Democratic party was fraudulent in the caucuses etc., how can Bill and Hillary support him? If it is country first, WHY do they support him? Surely they are aware of all of these theories. Nevermind that they “have to”, especially if Andy Martin is correct.

#785 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 3:12 am

#775 Freddie – I also got about the same amount back.

#786 BillieJo on 09.12.08 at 3:17 am

I did the midnight prowl.
Good night all.
Sweet dreams.

#787 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 3:18 am

lucky seven… lets call it some type of evil “chain reaction” a political “black hole” where everything gets sucked into it..

#788 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:18 am

freddie that’s what I find so fascinating in this book i’m reading. it talks about fascism and how it starts as a grass roots movement with the promise of a better life. Get rid of political squabbling, class struggle, corrupt politicians, have moral renewal, national unity, sounds great! But then reality sets in and there is no resistance since all institutions for independent organization have been destroyed. Imagine bo declaring war and his thugs taking out any congressman or citizen who objects! Short term looks great but long term??????

#789 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:19 am

hahah, they have to be scared, I mean for real, the Obamites are scared.

this is what I just got from a local DFA leader:

I do not attend DFA meetings ANYMORE.

But here is the email, they are scared!

Far too many of you are prepared to vote for this guy in November. Yes, this email went out to everyone in my address book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

#790 osaka puma on 09.12.08 at 3:20 am

taffy..there are many elements of fascism present in obamas politics

#791 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:24 am

lucky… i think bill and hill know bo can’t win and hillary knows she has to stay in the senate with power to try and help control the devastation. if she goes against party wishes she will be out the door so fast!!! bo has big money behind him who will help buy a candidate to replace her. same as they got ny delegates to switch from her. she’s still fighting for us!

#792 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:25 am

I am tired. I should go to sleep.

Man I can’t spend time with the obamites again. They make me sick. just wanted to see my friends. But, we can’t even talk right now.

They are crazy, seriously.

#793 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:30 am

my in laws just drank the koolaid. they are against privatizing social security so feel give bo a chance. up until a month ago they were for hillary or mccain. can’t talk to them any more either. amazing how the “uniter” is “dividing” even families!!

#794 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 3:33 am

taffy – I pray that you are correct. It has been so difficult to get my family to switch – it has reached a point where they won’t even discuss this with me as they are so in the tank for bo.

#795 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:35 am

taffy,
I know what you mean. I’ve lost many friends over this. i got a lecture tonight regarding “community Organizer” and huow much better that was than governor.

Geeze, i didn’t say I loved Palin, i said she was a good pick because she was young, motivated, and a governor.

I just can’t wait for results to come out, in this area. i can’t wait for these people to have to literally eat all the crap they’ve said and all the chaos they’ve caused.

But i tell you, for the guy who is a local DFA leader to send out an email that panicked regarding McCain, is funny to me. They must seriously be scared. There must be people getting under his skin, seriously.

#796 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 3:36 am

I can’t imagine Hillary knows about stuff like Andy M. writes about and still campaigns for him. It is unimaginable – even McCain, it is un-imaginable that they would risk our country should this guy win.

Perhaps they are so sheltered that they don’t get this kind of information. You know, something like hiding in plain sight, can’t see the forest for the trees…

Anti and SheriPUMA. You guys say that you got the email from AM – you should ask him if anyone in The Clinton or McCain administration knows about this stuff and if they do, why has anyone not done a thing.

I know Obama has skeletons in his closet but if I were to play devils advocate – could these authors be spinning these to sell their books ? Just wondering because I find it hard to believe – I have read similar
“stories” (SandiPuma your article brings to mind) that seem equally fantastical. I want to believe that its true but at the same time I don’t want to believe that it could be true.

#797 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 3:36 am

Taffy – you are right about dividing families. I think that I am the only one in my family (3 married children plus hubby) who refuses to vote for bo. The task of converting them a point of no return. They have drunk the kool aid and I can only hope that something is revealed by the Mccain camp about bo that will change their minds.

#798 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 3:37 am

OOPs i meant refuse to vote for Mccain – my mind is so on not voting for bo -

#799 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:39 am

you know I didn’t go review the previous entries, tonight. Who or what is Andy M and what is the story?

#800 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:42 am

freddie…remember the clause in the 2008 roll call. Nobody can be a nominee for president unless they have shown good faith toward the party. you bet the clintons know what is going on. they got sucker punched in iowa….now it’s keep your friends close and your enemies closer. there is a clue i keep seeing in hillary’s stump speeches but because of eyes i won’t mention here.

#801 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 3:43 am

now it must be late cause i am getting myself all confused. so let me start again – i am the only one in my family who refuses to vote for obama. the rest have drunk the kool aid. one of my friends keeps telling me i have to do more research. i have been sending her more articles etc, but it still doesn’t help. these people have been indoctrinated about the supreme court and abortion.

#802 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:44 am

go back to anti at #690. I met andy martin in denver. he is very serious about bringing bo down. has been on to him for years! he’s a columnist in chicago.

#803 freddiebrown on 09.12.08 at 3:47 am

Dem4Hillary -
The story is on post # 690

#804 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:48 am

hmmm, I guess I don’t understand everything… Probably very tired.

I hate my new email because it recognizes semi-colons; but, not commas (,). So, all these lists of emails are a pain in the butt to send because I have to reformat the list to something my stupid email can read. Otherwise it will read the first one and that is it.

#805 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:50 am

yeah, thanks everybody. i found the post and read it.

i don’t understand what I read. i think I’m just too tired to think about how a crooked politician and potential felon works in his bid to becme POTUS.

#806 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:50 am

lucky…turn it around and tell her to bring the research to you. Not speeches of hope and change but proven facts of what he has accomplished. IF they can come up with anything, at least you know what to research to counter. Most anything he says he has done has been in illinois senate or in community. Lots of research there to counter any greaat claims! Also have them look into the global poverty bill. it’s about the ONLY thing he has done in the US senate and it’s downright scary to think it might get passed. we definitely need a prowl on that!!!!

#807 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:54 am

my god his arrogance just never freaking ceases to amaze me.

“We yack in the senate” “small town mayors have to actually fill potholes, trim trees, and make sure the garbage gets picked up”

It’s appalling. It’s truly appalling.

#808 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 3:55 am

it’s in the video up on yahoo.com right now.

He’s awful, horrible, no good, arrognat, SOB.

#809 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 3:58 am

Dem….very simply put they want a coup in the U.S. Get bo in power and our rights are gone. bo’s “civilian force” will be our new military.

#810 Taffy on 09.12.08 at 4:00 am

no different than his “I didn’t spend 19 months on the road and eat hotel food to come in 2nd” speech!

#811 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 4:04 am

Taffy thanks for the suggestion. There will be an email going out as soon as I finish this!!

#812 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:06 am

Im sorry but I believe we had a coup in 2000 and our party had a coup this year.

I don’t know what to say anymore.

I don’t know what to believe anymore. I still TRUST Bill clinton. I’m not AFRIAD of mccain. I trust Hillary to take care of the Senate. I want PELOSI OUT.

But literally there are fewer and fewer leaders that i TRUST. I guess that just comes with the territory. But, I trust Bill Clinton with every single fiber of my being. So, although I disagree with him on campaigning for Obama, I trust his decision for the good of this party, this country. I can’t do what he is asking me. I cannot.

However, he doesn’t have power, now. So, i don’t know.

I TRUST Hillary.

#813 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:12 am

Oh SH-t. There’s a shortage of gas here and ididn’t even know it. Apparently due to the incoming hurricane.

Damn, i’m going to go buy gas….

ahhhhhhhhh I’m very very scared for the future of this country. It’s on the front page of our paper.

My mother used to give me a 5 dollar bill and say “run in and tell them Im putting 5 bucks in”

#814 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:30 am

well i guess pumas are curled up sleeping and im prowling around

#815 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 4:32 am

What is the thinking on Biden withdrawing and making room for Hillary? If that happens, I hope that she doesn’t accept. Wouldn’t that be poetic justice now for her to decline? What they would be doing is just using her again.

#816 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 4:34 am

Dem4 – I remember when my father would take our ’41 plymouth, that had no heater/ac and we would freeze in the winter and sweat like bullets in the summer. He would put $2 worth of gas in it and that practically filled it up!!!

#817 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:35 am

Biden isnt going to resign. He can’t they got what they got and now they gotta run with it. It would ruin HRCs career to step in now. It would prove BO can’t make a decision on his own and has no judgement. It would give fire for the republicans that he needs HRC as VP because he can’t do it without her and therefore she would be surrogate president. Aint going to happen.

#818 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:38 am

I got my license late, I was afraid to drive. I had a friend killed in a car wreck and I was just afraid. So, I didn’t get a license until about 22 or 23. I took the car back to college with me and i remember in December of my junior year well my 5th year ( I was a 6-year student), I had to fill it up from about 1/4 of a tank and literally between 10 and 15 filled it up and that was like, 2001.

#819 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:43 am

I lol earlier when someone said “have you picked out the ghetto you want to live in?”

But, I will probably be moving back home after grad school because of lack of jobs, ect.

I already live in what I call El Mexico Ghetto. I’m sorry and I know it sounds redneck but I walk through the Mexican Ghetto of drunk men every day. I cant afford to live anywhere else.

#820 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 4:44 am

Dem4 – You are right – however what if they came up with something where Biden was involved – not as bad as Edwards – but something that would prevent him from running – but still would not hinder his senatorial career – even a feigned illness! They are so cocky that they might believe that they can pull something like that off and the kool aid drinkers would keep sipping.

#821 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:46 am

I should sleep for a little bit.

Man I can’;t drink caffine after 10pm AND go see Democrats/aka Obamqueens at the same time. My god, I’ve been up all night.

Actually they aren’t democrats. They’ve never even voted with the party or been involved or anything. That is what i REALLY don’t like. They don’t understand platform or anything and they just call it new politics. They don’t even know politics so how can they differentiate new politics from old politics?

#822 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 4:47 am

Andy Martin sent me part 2 of this storey from #690 i have bothe

#823 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 4:50 am

Barack Obama and William Ayers: PART TWO
The mysterious Mr. Obama

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BARACK OBAMA AND WILLIAM AYERS: DID THEY MEET AT COLUMBIA?

WHY THE SECRECY ABOUT OBAMA’S COLLEGE RECORDS?

(NEW YORK, NY)(September 12, 2008) Barack Obama had the wrong calling. Instead of being a “community organizer” he should have joined the CIA. Obama knows how to cover his tracks. He could be called the “clandestine candidate.”

Obama spent two years at Columbia University yet left virtually no fingerprints of his presence there. Could that be because Columbia was where Mr. Obama first met “mad bomber” William Ayers?

Obama has also refused to release his Columbia University transcripts. What secrets lurk there? Likewise for Occidental College where he attended for two years. What is he trying to hide? I arrived in the Columbia area to study theology at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine shortly after Obama had left, so I know the neighborhood well. I have gone back to retrace were he might have been. No luck. No footprints, either.

What has Obama’s past behavior over the past four years taught me? When Obama is hiding something he is hiding something.

Is it just a coincidence that Obama and Ayers were on the Columbia campus together? Did they meet and make their initial contact at that time? Had Obama been turned on to Ayers by Frank Marshall Davis? Was there a Khalid Al-Mansour and William Ayers connection during this early period. Questions, questions. But no answers from Mr. Obama.

Did Ayers point Obama in the direction of Chicago as a place to hone Obama’s “organizing” skills?

Fox News also tried to search for Obama. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108881386721289.html
They had no luck either.

The fact that Obama has crated a void concerning his college years, after claiming in his own book he went to New York to study in an urban environment, makes me queasy. Did he find what he was looking for in New York? What did he find? Who did he find? Blank.

What is Obama hiding?

No major party nominee for the presidency has led a life with, pardon the expression, black holes at crucial points in his life. Why was Obama invisible at Columbia? What would his college transcripts show? Why are the mainstream media tiptoeing away from any searching examination of Obama’s college years?

The Wall Street Journal speculated that Obama is concealing that he received racial preferences and obtained his degree through affirmative action. Why wouldn’t Obama want to put that theory to rest by releasing his college records?

While the Journal’s theory is as equally plausible as mine, I believe Obama is concealing that he had his first contacts with William Ayers while both were living in the Columbia neighborhood. Ayers had recently surfaced after having been “underground” for a decade.

No one has been able to nail down when Obama met Ayers. My 2.0 timeline leaves the matter open (see below). There is no hard evidence. The only concrete information we have is that Obama has blatantly and repeatedly lied about the timeline of his relationship with Ayers.

Deception of Obama’s sort is probative in and of itself. The fact that he lies, lies repeatedly and lies blatantly, is indicative of the sensitivity of the Obama-Ayers connection.

While Obama’s minions obviously want to vet Sarah Palin’s past, he has precluded any vetting of his own peculiar history. He claims in his own words that he went to Columbia to find a black experience, and then says virtually nothing about those experiences.

Eight years ago, I made a very controversial TV commercial that aired on Channel 9 in New Hampshire, questioning George Bush’s qualifications for the presidency. My words then resonate now. I said, “Don’t trust George Bush with your vote until he trusts you with the truth about his past.” The same words can be applied to Obama. Eight years later, my words have found a new target, and a new void.

In the meantime, did Barack Obama meet William Ayers in New York? It sure looks that way from all of the secrecy surrounding Obama’s Columbia years.

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THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)

1981-1983[William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]

1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago

1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education

1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)

2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.

2008Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie.

Even though we have finally started piecing the puzzle together, we continue to investigate. For example, where in Chicago did Barack Obama live in 1985-1988? Help if you have an address.

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#824 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 4:51 am

Sandi – do you have the link?

#825 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:51 am

I don’t know what to say about Biden…

I mean honestly, it’s not a valid argument to vote for a ticket no matter how you slice it, if you knock off your VP nominee, bring in the heavy hitter as VP, and try to run the ticket as though obama has control, vision, prepardness, ect?

It puts Hillary in an awful position. It puts the Democrats losing terribly. The party would literally dissolve, I think…

This has been such a disaster and was planned from the beginning.

I mean even though I didn’t believe hillary was actually going to run 4 years ago there was enough talk and enough people knew that Obama should have NEVER been allowed to do this. But he was chosen at least 4 years ago, if not 8.

You know that slot he got at the DNC four years ago was supposed to go to Harold Ford Jr. HFJ was the rising African American and he had been in the US HOUSE for 8 years at that point. Good god, this guy from no where gets the keynote address and hasn’t even provided any elaboration on his message from that time. If you listen to his speech, it’s literally got entire drafts lifted and placed in his nominating speech.

#826 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 4:57 am

I just sent you what i could

#827 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 4:58 am

oh my gosh, Obama is missing from Columbia. My goodness, I made the front page of my college newspaper on more than one occassioin. I am listed in multiple publications and you’re telling me Obama has nothing? What the hell?

As far as Hillary taking the VP. i swear, I know I know I know this sounds sexist, like she can’t make her own decisions. But, I hope, I mean I really hope, Bill would get her and take her away. Maybe meet with close advisors like Terry McAuliffe and Harold Iches. But seriously get her the hell out of the country for some time to take a step back and figure out for themselves what THEY want to do. They may not see eye to eye but they are ultimately a political couple and Bill will do anything to stand up for her and that has been probably the thing to keep him so resilent. There would come a point where literally, they would have to walk away from this party, I believe that, I believe that.

#828 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 5:00 am

I was told by someone about 3 months that if we can’t stop him we are not going to beAmerica as we once knew. We will have bloodshed on our own soil and that the terrorists are allready here for when Obama becomes President

#829 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 5:02 am

Hil4 – I know that Ford was the original scheduled speaker. What I don’t recall is the reason for the change. What was it?

#830 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:03 am

part of me feels very very sad, because I just feel in my bones that the Democratic party is going to completely dissolve and do you know how long it will take for a new center-left party to emerge and run against the Republicans?

I think 2000 was the beginning of the end and now we’re going to see it come crashing down. There is going to be a fight from hell in that party when obama loses this election. He deserves to lose, period. That party needs to clean house like no other.

#831 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 5:05 am

I can’t make it into a link sorry

#832 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 5:05 am

Sandi – what did you send and to whom?

#833 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:06 am

luckyseven, i don’t know when or why it got changed. I just don’t remember. I was so focused on the election, I watched roll call. I’ll never forget Sharpton’s speech “We’re gonna ride this donkey as far as it’ll take us”

But, the irony is, I didn’t see obama’s speech. i didn’t care. The next day everyone had already been drinking kool-aid the night before and were on cloud-nine. It was really really weird.

#834 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:08 am

I would say that since HFJ was a leader of the Democratic leadership council that he was removed because of that.

What I don’t understand was, how much influence did Terry McAuliffe have over that convention? He was party chair. It’s just soooooo weird to me that McAuliffe who is a lifelong friend to the clintons was dem chair through early 2005 and had to have influence over that convention. I don’t understand how in the HELL obama got that speech.

Maybe McAuliffe looks back on that too and wonders. Who knows.

#835 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 5:09 am

There are so many trying to find out about Obama and his tracks are to dang hard to find. This whole thing has been a cover up. A perfect terrorist cover up.

#836 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 5:10 am

I am really afraid that there will be a lot of rioting when bo hopefully loses. They will claim that the election was fraudulent and fixed by the republicans. Now of course the shoe will be on the other foot. Hillary people didn’t riot as we voiced our disdain through the democratic means by voicing our opinions etc. But, I fear that the obamites will not be so civilized.

#837 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 5:13 am

#690 and #823 i sent to a Republican i know in Florida and he has sent these to 50 others

#838 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:13 am

I’m just wondering… Did anyone notice all the weird stuff with the internet during this election. Like you couldn’t find hillary supporter sites, beyond her own. Everything exploded online after he “wrapped up” the nomination. But, before, it was like google and yahoo and all fo the search engines couldn’t find any sites at all. I talked about this and about how weird this was to many people and I got shrugged off. But seriously, I believe the internet was being seriously tampered with and is still being seriously tampered with regarding obama’s nomination and election.

That scares me. I started a blog because of the weird stuff going on with the internet.

#839 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 5:15 am

I get a tracking cookie everyday.

#840 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 5:16 am

Dem4 – I must admit that we were all impressed with bo in 2004. He was a newcomer, clean cut looking, spoke well etc. Who would have thunk that his speech (as Hillary said – all he has is a speech) would have created this furor that we have now!! Unbelievable!

#841 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:17 am

lucky seven thanks for calling them Obamites. I call them Obamites too. The term comes from termites. What do termites do? They infiltrate a house or building. they destroy the infrastructure and leave a facade.

That is what Obamites are. These people are NOT real Democrats for the most part. They’ve infiltrated this party from the highest levels to local seats and party organization. They have made Obama their leader and savior. They have used his nomination to destroy the very foundation and infrastructure of this party and are going to leave us on November 5 with a facade of a party that (could/is going to come crumbling down)

Obamites – just like termites.

#842 sandipuma on 09.12.08 at 5:17 am

I really need to go to bed (((PUMAS RULE))) there is nothing we can’t do

#843 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:19 am

i missed the speech. I went back to watch it online and thought, “this guy didn’t say crap about anything, not the nominee, not the party, not anything.” “He just talked about there’s not a red America or a blue America”

I was NEVER impressed. The more I heard people goo goo and gaa gaa over him, the less comfortable I was with it.

#844 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:23 am

I know there is nothing we can do. It’s very very difficult. I’ve been working for so long. For four years non-stop and 8 years overall and really 12 if you consider, I did my first political action for President Clinton. It’s hard to stop. it’s hard because I don’t know what to do now. I don’t know who these people are who have infiltrated MY party and can’t stop themselves from talking in such a deragatory way about President Clinton and Hillary Clinton. they didn’t do ANYTHING to these people.

I kind of feel like these people are just backlashing against “establishment” because of Bush and they don’t have a clue. It’s like, they in some way feel responsible for Bush being in because maybe they feel they didin’t do enough so now, it’s like, I’m here so now that I’m here, to hell with everyone else whose ever done anything from a local level to a former president.

#845 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 5:24 am

Dem4hillary – I didn’t have a problem, but poor Larry Sinclair was thrown off of his sites and had to change about 8 times. Have you seen his site? I guess the msm will discuss this once bo loses! This guy has really been raked over the coals. Actually, I do believe him and so do quite a few other people.
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

#846 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:28 am

I added it to my favorites. I’ll read it when I have a chance.

#847 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:33 am

haha, this came off a Dem meetup group tonight. They are upset by the turnout tonight. They are really scared. it must be panick time in Chicago. I mean if the newly inspired are this panicked, what about the longtime crook? This is just WILD. i have never seen stuff like this coming from people. Not in 2002, 2004, or 2006. Its falling apart.

I know you’re out there! I saw lots of members listed – even pictured : mug shots, thug shots, glamor shots, big shots, sure shots, Simpsonized shots… but now that we’re in a fight for our nation’s life and the real freedoms of its people, it seems to be blank shots.

We need you now. If you care about electing a Democratic President and fighting the smears, fears, and tears which are detracting voters from the real issues, THIS is the time to get involved. With more people finally getting involved in politics because we have a candidate inspires us to do more than complain, we need to harness this grass roots power for the next 50+ days and work to elect Obama as our next President.

Contact the organizers (Dan & Linda Haney)– there isn’t time to wait until the next meet-up.
Contact the Obama Campaign office (865-540-1609) and help with the campaign.
There is plenty to do — including this Saturday at 11:00 AM (confirm details with the office)
Visit the Obama-Biden website and review the issues and fight the smears at barackobama.com

Let’s get Barack elected — we cannot afford another 4-8 years of national manipulation and degradation!

I hope that we can count on you and will hear from you very soon! Let’s trade a few hours of volunteering to avoid 4-8 years of suffering!

Mary Ann Page
(a newly involved member – inspired by Obama)

#848 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:35 am

BAHAHAHA, I wonder if they’re going to the UT game. Oh my god, I feel for them, I really do. I’ve done that crap and my god, I will NEVER mix politics and SEC football EVER again.

I wouldn’t even do it for Hillary this year.

#849 Luckyseven on 09.12.08 at 5:43 am

Well- I think I better go to lilly white’s party!
Make sure you read about Larry Sinclair – he claims to have had a 2 nite “down low” stand with him in 1999 and bo did crack which he bought while with Larry.

#850 warrior4hillary on 09.12.08 at 5:59 am

I just got an email from Democrats.com asking me to

Tell The Media to Call Sarah Palin a Serial Liar

What? I will do no such thing.

Have we lost our minds? Are they really asking us to partake in the sewage of smearing another woman? Hasn’t the media already played their hand in sexism? Now the democrats are asking me to sling mud at another woman?

Did anyone get a note from the republicans asking us to trash Biden?

http://www.democrats.com/call-sarah-palin-a-serial-liar

#851 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 6:05 am

I got that email as well. it’s truly appalling.

#852 Notyoursweetie on 09.12.08 at 6:08 am

Obama jumping the shark
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/obama-jumping-the-shark/

#853 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 6:09 am

Damn I’m pissed, I’m seriously pissed I can’t go to another event until I don’t know when.

#854 Dem4Hillary on 09.12.08 at 6:14 am

notyoursweetie,that’s awesome..

oh my god, NPR news is doing a report on the HUGE CROWDS of the Republicans. hahahahaha. NPR. NPR who’s in the tank every day for obama, including doing a report this week on the influence of race and voting this year.

NPR is doing a report on huge crowds at the republican rallys.

Everyone is panicked, seriously, seriously.

#855 missy1208 on 09.12.08 at 6:21 am

Confirmation No.: 271098
Contribution To: Sheila Jackson Lee U.S. Congress Campaign Committee
Contribution Date: 9/12/2008
Amount: $20.00

Thanks Murphy, for all you do for this site!!

#856 murphy on 09.12.08 at 6:21 am

Morning Folks, new thread up.

Feel free to repost comments. Especially you, Not Your Sweetie!

I’ll be away from the computer for a few hours. Be wonderful to each other.

Today is a new day,

Take it upstairs!

#857 NewOrleansPuma on 09.12.08 at 6:22 am

Regarding politicians “having ” to support Obama:
Nobody has to support anybody. It is the repercussions of not supporting that many will not risk.
Not very many St Thomas Mores around….in this country and day and age…. Not much integrity in any of them, from bottom to top.

#858 prplvette85 on 09.12.08 at 6:22 am

The governor of Illinois, Rob Blogoyavich (sp?) stuck up for Palin, saying that she has enough experience to be a vp. He said she is the executive of a State, that it is more experience than being a Senator, that a Senator’s decision making is part of a team. A Governor has to make the decisions themselves, and is responsible for every person in that state. Pissed off a lot of the obots!

#859 Shainzona on 09.12.08 at 9:36 am

ARIZONA…..Gabrielle Giffords should NOT be endorsed. She not only went early to Obama, she did so against her district and her state. AND she’s a member of Arizona List…which works for women candidates – HA!

I had high hopes for her, but not after that “boneheaded” move.

And I have called her office and told her so.

#860 votingtopless on 09.12.08 at 11:07 am

Correction on Delaware. John Carney, who was endorsed by the Delaware Democratic Party, lost his bit for to run on the democratic ticket for governor to Jack Markell, current StateTreasurer. The primary was held Tuesday. Jack is a progressive and should prove to be a good governor. He acutally has a health care plan to assure all Delaware citizens have health coverage.

#861 Michigan Puma on 09.12.08 at 11:18 am

Please add to Michigan the name of Mark Schauer for the 7th congressional district. Mark is the Democrat opposing the ONLY Freshman Republican from the 2006 campaign, Tim Whalberg. Whalberg is so far to the right that he makes McCain/Palin look like flaming liberals!! Whalberg has received a lot of support from Dick Cheney – who has held fund raisers for him. Mark Schauer is the first serious candidate the Democrats have put up in this area in more than 20 years. We need all the support we can get.

#862 melk tx on 09.12.08 at 3:48 pm

Excuse me for not getting it , but is this the list of folks we should vote down ticket from the President??????
Do I vote for the ones that have stars behind them??
Not sure and have been wondering who to vote for when I decided to vote for McCain.
melissa

#863 will13smith on 09.12.08 at 6:45 pm

Biden Releases 10 Years of Tax Returns

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/09/biden-releases.html

Bidens have been amazingly tight-fisted when it comes to their charitable giving. Despite income ranging from $210,432 – $321,379 over the ten-year period, the Bidens have given only $120 – $995 per year to charity, which amounts to 0.06% – 0.31% of their income:

#864 hillstheone on 09.13.08 at 2:34 am

EWard, they should modify that video and add a section where the DNC comes in the room and serves arrest papers, then the staff breaks out into a cheer and everyone looks down at the telephone at the same time.
It says “Hillary Clinton, 3 a.m.” on it!

#865 Patty on 09.14.08 at 8:47 am

:)

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