Why We Fight

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They are so scared. More scared than they’ve been since Hillary Clinton moved into the White House. They do this every time they get this scared, and they never get this scared of a man. Other people might wonder how politics and the media can be filled with so many pearl-clutchers when there are so few women in either profession, but such is the case. Some might suggest these folks were a little too close to mamma to grow up to be functional men, if you know what I mean. Still others might suggest it’s an intimacy-issues thing, the result of being cuckolded by empowered, irritated, unsatisfied wives. Whatever the source of this neuroses and dysfunction, the result is always the same:

Gary Kamiya’s article in Salon was graced by that picture of Palin. That picture of Hillary is from Spy Magazine, circa February 1993, just a month after she and Bill arrived in Washington. This is the Fourth Estate’s enfeebled attempt police the political class. But it only shows how distorted and mentally diseased they are, how much privilege they’ve been able to secure, which is to say, way too much. Maybe we need to run a Psychiatrist for president, so we can have these images translated for the media as they publish them.

What they don’t think about, because it’s so far outside the limited borders of their bubbled brains, is what effect this sort of propaganda has on some people, especially people aware of and open to feminist sentiments. That Spy Magazine cover made me a life-long fan of Hillary Clinton at the tender age of 22, and articulated in one image what she’s had to fight as a woman in politics all her life. It also made me shed the bullshit rhetoric swirling around women in my age group at the time that feminism wasn’t necessary anymore, and was odious to boot. The sympathy it created in me spurred the birth of a barrier wall in my brain, which grew with every dirty trick Republicans of the 1990s threw at Hillary or Bill. A lot of other Americans experienced this too. This wall of static sound developed for a lot of people, so that by 1995 all most people heard when they listened to Clinton critics and naysayers was a whole lot of what Lucy and Charlie hear when adults speak in a Peanuts cartoon: Waa-WAA-Waa-WAA-WAA.

But there was a danger I wasn’t aware of at the time, and the thought of that missed danger plagues me today. The kids of the 1990s weren’t able to build that wall of static, they absorbed and internalized all of those unfounded charges and characterizations. And because they were too young to understand what was going on, because parents felt uncomfortable talking about it to them because of the Lewinsky-sex issue, the little seeds of hate Republicans were trying to sow at the time landed in a lot of young, fertile hearts. And look where we are today. We’ve got young women so stupefied from all the confusion they can’t even see overt, rank sexism before their very eyes. We’ve got other, older women so hooked in to the white male power structure they’re unwilling to risk losing anything, to risk being put into leather and chains themselves, even if just in pictures. We’ve got a lot of young men monkeying those Republicans from the 90s, even some young men ostensibly smart enough to know better. These are monsters built in the ideological ovens of the 1990s. This is the legacy of 1990s, of all those Republican hit jobs.

This is the also danger we face today. Make no mistake about it. You cannot just go back to your couch, to watching Lost and House and whatever reality TV show it is you follow. Young women and men today, my 14 year old daughter among them, are absorbing the heat of the hit jobs this year. It is baking into their very flesh. IF Hillary runs in 2012, my daughter will be old enough to vote. What choice will she make after all she’s seen this year? So far she’s still an Obama fan, even though she now understands what Hillary had to deal with, and sympathizes with me over the sexism she herself can now identify. But just yesterday, as she sauntered off to bed, she couldn’t resist snarkily throwing this little gem in my face: “Why do you want four more years of Bush, Mom?” This is where she is after living her whole life with a feminist Hillary Clinton supporter. After all she knows about what happened this year, and because I am her mom she knows the whole sorry tale (and is sorry to hear it again), this is still the argument that works for her in her politically budding mind.

This is why we fight. We fight for my daughter and the millions of girls like her who are endangered by the sexist rhetoric that passes for media these days. We fight for the millions of boys who are looking at the Progressive Dude Nation right now, at their style, their pazzazz, their irreverence, and who are wanting to posture the same stance one day if they haven’t adopted it already. There is more at stake than just this year, this election, or the next four years. There are legions of young minds being shaped, and we must inform them, using rhetoric that is natural to their intellect, of what is going on right now and what is possible for the future.

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Cross-posted from Peacocks and Lilies.

936 comments ↓

#1 Noblecascade on 09.10.08 at 5:36 pm

1st

#2 Noblecascade on 09.10.08 at 5:36 pm

ha! I did it!

#3 annabelle on 09.10.08 at 5:37 pm

Hope you don’t mind if I take the dinner shift, Murphy.

This needs attention, folks. Salon needs to hear from us. If you’ve got an account, post your complaint in their Letters to the Editor: http://letters.salon.com/.

If you don’t have an account, and are as outraged as I am, you might want to register for the free one. http://letters.salon.com/register/?submit=Register

#4 antifish on 09.10.08 at 5:38 pm

Yeah, I’m special!!!!

#5 annabelle on 09.10.08 at 5:39 pm

Congrats, Noble! Yes you are, antifish! Hehe.

#6 Patty on 09.10.08 at 5:44 pm

I’m #6 because I was busy donating for my first time.
YAY!

#7 murphy on 09.10.08 at 5:48 pm

yay Annabelle!

I like the cut of your jib and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

#8 Asian4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 5:48 pm

There are two kinds of men in the world, real men and girly men. Girly men are like NObama is scared to death of powerful women, it makes him revert to insults and sexist remarks to make him feel powerful. These girly men can’t even seduce a slug for a date, but they have the attitude of superiority when actually inside they’re scared to death.

Real men are not afraid of powerful and intelligent women, they welcome it, embrace it. They value her and appreciate everything she does; he’s not afraid to stand in the shadow and say to his self, “that’s my girl!”.

NOBAMA IS A GIRLY MAN

#9 nhforhillary on 09.10.08 at 5:48 pm

#6 patty

Welcome puma hug

#10 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.10.08 at 5:53 pm

ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO BY CLEANGOVERNMENT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUilh2Q45YQ&watch_response

#11 Patty on 09.10.08 at 5:54 pm

“Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight,” Biden said testily when a voter told Biden he was glad the Delaware senator had been chosen and not Clinton.

So is Biden saying BHO has poor judgment?

#12 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 5:54 pm

Tally and analysis of convention delegate votes.
Sorry if this is a repeat:

http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/09/convention-vote-tally-analysis.html

#13 ontherocks on 09.10.08 at 5:57 pm

Blog on Fox News. Some people should just leave their homes. The hate that comes out really shocks me.
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South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler reportedly lashed out at Sarah Palin Wednesday, saying the Republican vice presidential candidate’s “primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

#14 Blue Blue Gal on 09.10.08 at 5:57 pm

Patty
way to go !!!!!!

#15 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.10.08 at 5:58 pm

HI PATTY~ hun, joe doesnt have to say it, it is the obvious! :lol: and one comment on a youtube had a guy saying he is finished with NObama and his ignorance! I gave him a congratulations!! and a welcome to the other side~

#16 Rachel on 09.10.08 at 6:01 pm

Joe Biden just said that Hillary is more qualified to be VP than him. At least one member of the ticket has common sense. See story below:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/10/biden-hillary-might-have-been-better-vp-pick/

#17 murphy on 09.10.08 at 6:02 pm

PROWL TIME!

right here, right now.

copy-paste-send this email to Carol Fowler. Do it now. It will take you less than 2 minutes. Do it now, and then ask ALL your friends to do it too. CC or bcc me at murphy@pumapac.org

DO IT NOW PUMA PAC! NOW IS THE TIME TO STRIKE!

cfowler@scdp.org and murphy@pumapac.org

subject: THANK you!

Dear Ms. Fowler,

How DARE you make such a degrading and sexist comment about Sarah Palin’s reproductive choices?

How DARE you presume to know what reproductive choices Sarah Palin has made?

How DARE you mock every woman in America who has faced the choice of abortion?

How DARE you mock me?

Sincerely,

D. Murphy
Middlesex MA
Puma PAC Democrat

#18 Rugger_in_LA on 09.10.08 at 6:03 pm

Something interesting that was brought to my attention by my wife. I am sorry for being vague but had little time (or want) to look at the chuckle-heads on CNN.

On CNN yesterday on Larry King (I think) Hilary Rosen was repeating the now discredited item about how that Palin had cut special need education etc. etc. After that segment Anderson Cooper came on next with a guest who debunked that very rumor as — a rumor. Now today Wolf (egomaniac) Blitzer came again with Hilary Rosen who was again repeating this very same bunk rumor.

She wrote Wolf and Cooper emails demanding an explanation ..

I suggested sending along the fact check org link to be clear on this one.

fact check : http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

back to work for me …

#19 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 6:04 pm

hey I asked question the other day kind of made a joke it went along the lines of how many obama supporters does it take to change a lightbulb?

1) one to change the lightbulb and hundreds of others to scream racism
2)one to change the lightbulb and thousands of others to scream yes we can
3)none since changing a lightbulb is considered to be a “non-issue” and obama supporters are only concerned with issues
4)none since no lightbulbs are needed the messiah radiates with a glow brighter than any lightbulb

#20 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 6:05 pm

“Some might suggest these folks were a little too close to mamma to grow up to be functional men, if you know what I mean. Still others might suggest it’s an intimacy-issues thing, the result of being cuckolded by empowered, irritated, unsatisfied wives. Whatever the source of this neuroses and dysfunction, the result is always the same:”

It’s always a woman’s fault.
I’m not so sure about psychiatrists as Presidents. It isn’t as if they are any more credible than any of the other freakish androids in a long line of US Presidents.

We all know, or should know, about Freud’s Seduction Theory. That, it was discovered, he changed the conclusion of his study in order to protect his father who had been molesting his (Sigmund’s) sister. In his attempt to protect his father, and concretize his own denial, he concluded (blamed) his sister for seducing the father.

I’m tellin’ ya… the majority of them are freaks… pure and simple.

#21 ontherocks on 09.10.08 at 6:06 pm

Post # 16

Prowl done.

#22 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 6:15 pm

Prowl completed!

#23 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 6:15 pm

Breaking news out of New York: Joe Biden to meet with Bill Clinton for intermediary discussions – on Biden dropping out and Hillary taking his place!

Holy…

#24 Blue Blue Gal on 09.10.08 at 6:17 pm

kempion
tv? radio?
what station?

#25 murphy on 09.10.08 at 6:17 pm

kempion — link?

#26 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 6:18 pm

UPDATE: Steve Cohen is the same guy who called Hillary Clinton Glenn Close from Fatal Attraction.

UGH.

“Tennessee Rep. Steve Cohen riled Republicans Wednesday after he compared Barack Obama to Jesus Christ and suggested Sarah Palin is akin to Pontius Pilate.” (from fox)

Steve Cohen Campaigns for Obama on House Floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp_2Cw4RH1c

Obama = Jesus Christ?

Palin = Pontius Pilate?

(Donna Brazile and others have been repeating this on TV. It’s a viral email going around that has become a talking point.)

#27 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 6:18 pm

Inside info. When the story breaks for print, you KNOW I will post a linkk here. :D

Not trying to get your hopes up – just trying to keep yall ahead of the curve on these things.

#28 murphy on 09.10.08 at 6:21 pm

oh ok — a rumor.

#29 lionness on 09.10.08 at 6:21 pm

Prowl # 16 done with some additions about throwing out the entire leadership of the Democratic Party.

#30 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 6:22 pm

I do not believe that for a minute. Not you Kempion, who ever is saying this. And it will not make a difference.
HILLARY SHOULD NOT TAKE SLOPPY SECONDS. If you know what I mean.
It will still be NO OBAMA

#31 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:22 pm

DWP – Thanks for the poll workers info.

#32 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 6:23 pm

Murphy
you have email

#33 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 6:23 pm

Yall should already know about this scheduled meeting. Right???

Well, you can call it rumor. My source says Biden is tired of sticking his foot in his own mouth AND has publicly stated Hillary would have been a better choice.

#34 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 6:23 pm

Kempion’s rumor probably comes from here:

Biden said today that Hillary Clinton is “as, if not more, qualified to be vice president than [he] is.”

Are they trying to prime us up for Obama to drop Biden for Hillary?

HILLARY! Stay the F*** away from Obama! He is radioactive! He will ruin your career! You won’t help him win! You will lose on his ticket because of HIM and then YOU will get blamed!

Stay away. Thanks.

#35 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 6:24 pm

Hi Mama! I miss you :(

#36 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 6:25 pm

Obama will never apologize for the PIG remark like he would never pick Hillary for VP.

It is not with in him.

#37 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 6:26 pm

Kempion: Are you talking about the Bill Clinton/ Obama private lunch tomorrow?

It’s scheduled after McCain and Obama meet in NYC at ground zero, and to put aside their differences for anniversary of 9/11.

#38 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 6:26 pm

22 Kempion
Breaking news out of New York: Joe Biden to meet with Bill Clinton for intermediary discussions – on Biden dropping out and Hillary taking his place!
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“inside info”. Inside what, your imagination?
Why would Biden speak with Bill Clinton about this? Is Bill Clinton Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s guardian or something?

Either way… I hope she declines. president, or nada, zilch, nothing. I will not have oboy as President.
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Freddie, you’re welcome.

#39 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 6:28 pm

Just talked to an Obot here at work, we have been going around and around for months and the difficult time is keeping it civil. :roll:

The two important things I gained about the Obama youth vote downfall -in all these conversations are:

1 – They are afraid Obama will not be leading before the election and many young people will not take the time to go out and actually vote.

2 – Many young Obama supporters do not know that Obama voted for FISA.

Believe it or not, they do know about the concept, and that it is bad (FISA is aimed at regulating the collection of “foreign intelligence” information in furtherance of U.S. counterintelligence, whether or not any laws were or will be broken.), but………

many do not know what the acronym stands for, and therefore don’t know that when he voted ‘yes’ on FISA, what he voted for that amendment to be passed.

More informed Obama supporters that figured this out have already fallen off of the O’Train to the edge of the cliff.

————

Can you tell I am wording this in polite terms? Just in case the Obots take it back to their blog. :roll:

#40 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:28 pm

#22 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 6:15 pm
Breaking news out of New York: Joe Biden to meet with Bill Clinton for intermediary discussions – on Biden dropping out and Hillary taking his place!
****
We were joking about that in the last few days.. when we heard questions like where is Biden ? And Biden better ask for documentation of his VP job – the writing is kinda on the wall. I bet they will cook up a story like he has some health problems or something, and has to step down. Hillary gets thrown up to get those votes… that Palin is chipping away.

CLEARLY OBAMA CANNOT WIN THIS PRESIDENCY WITHOUT HILLARY. Obviously something big has to give. I hope to GOD that Hillary knows that this is second to the second fiddle. It would really dissappoint me if she took it – all in the name of propagating a diseased party.

#41 sarah on 09.10.08 at 6:28 pm

http://carpetride.wordpress.com/

new video up!

#42 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 6:29 pm

The private meeting, yes.

It WOULD makes a lot sense for Biden to play go-between in such a situation. Peacemaker.

I hear Biden has an “illness” which will require him to drop out of the race. *shrug*

Again, keeping PUMA’s ahead of the curve.

#43 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:30 pm

BREAKING STORY ITS COMING…

September 10, 2008
Biden: Hillary might have been better VP pick
Posted: 05:01 PM ET

From CNN Political Producer Alexander Marquardt

Biden campaigned in New Hampshire Wednesday.
NASHUA, New Hampshire (CNN) — Joe Biden told supporters at a town hall Wednesday afternoon that Barack Obama might have been better off choosing Hillary Clinton as his running mate.

“Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight,” Biden said testily when a voter told Biden he was glad the Delaware senator had been chosen and not Clinton.

Watch: Biden opens up about death of first wife

“She’s a truly close personal friend and she is qualified to be President of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be Vice President of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me,” he continued.

“I mean that sincerely, she’s first rate.”

iReport.com: Calling Clinton supporters — What do you think?

After dropping out of the presidential race in January, Biden refrained from endorsing either Obama or Clinton — unlike most of the other Democratic contenders who followed. He told donors at a fundraiser in Boston Wednesday morning that after his withdrawal, Obama asked for his support but Biden declined because of his relationship with Clinton.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Joe Biden

#44 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.10.08 at 6:30 pm

destroying the NObama/Biden ticket!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCF5Xgs2fg

#45 Wallamoose on 09.10.08 at 6:33 pm

US Weekly losing subscriptions!

Adding five free issues to people the subscriptions of those who want to cancel to try to keep them.

#46 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:34 pm

HA !!!
MARK MY WORDS…

Biden is setting the stage for a step down – to put Hillary up. It is so obvious now. What a sham.

They are throwing Hillary back into the bus.

#47 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 6:35 pm

“Rumor” #2: Biden was the only person on Obama’s ‘short list” who wanted (would accept) the position.

Hard to believe?

Either way, the clamps are on this baby. We won’t know anything until tomorrow afternoon.

#48 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 6:37 pm

#34 prplvette85

Hello there Purple!!

I have to tell all PUMAs that Purple worked as hard as any PUMA can to feed hundreds of PUMAs at the head quarters. She and Daddy’s Darling and Laurie worked and stirred and cooked and served so that every PUMA had a feast.

Love to you Purple
Mama

#49 Your northern neighbor on 09.10.08 at 6:37 pm

#258 kat in your hat from downstairs:

Axelrod has distributed new “talking point.” America wants to hear about the “issues” not all this other stuff….
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“Not all this other stuff…” because they are not working out for him!

I think McCain really has precious cornered now.

Unlike racism, sexism etc…, Issues are not Obama’s strong points, and that is why he has been avoiding debates with McCain all along. The reason he needs to go there now is that he is out of cards.

If Obama ever has to visit the “Experience” issue, then we can all start celebrating a McCain Presidency with a very heavy heart.

P.S. Pumas have to be alert not to let the DNC pull a Biden/ Hillary switch on us. You can see that one is coming.
The only acceptable switch is an Obama/ Hillary switch.

#50 gostrumcat on 09.10.08 at 6:37 pm

Sebelius was drooling all over herself at one point to get the nod for BO’s VP.

#51 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 6:37 pm

Fowler apologized …..

#52 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 6:38 pm

#16 murphy It’s done :)

#53 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 6:38 pm

TOPIC: ED SCHULTZ / RANDI RHODES, TOO
PART II

Well fellow (feline) PUMA’s, had a chance to click on Mr. Ed Schultz again today while driving, and of course you know I couldn’t resist eavesdropping on another tirade. Today’s “cry with me” hour featured a professor “pollster” interview in which Ed asked the poll “expert” about the latest turnaround with respect to white women voters!

Pollster said, “Do not worry, Mr. Ed! Remember the polls were wrong about Bush & Gore, or was it Bush & Kerry.” Anyway it was a sad & pitiful example of mainstream media trying to get the answers they like by asking the wrong questions.

Then, the polling “expert” said he was “skeptical” of the latest polls. Why, you may ask? BeCAUSE they indicated “such a _large_ shift” of bedrock Democrats into the “Independent” column. So, Mr. Expert said, this could not be right. Then Eddie says “Have you ever seen such great outreach to the Young voters as Obama has achieved?” and on & on it went. Hope on!

After that they went on the “usual” (scare tactics) tirade about ROE v WADE. Cry, cry, cry.

After that Randi Rhodes comes up to bat blasting away at McCain’s new ad, (and playing an Obama speech from today saying “Enough! Enough! Enough!” over and over again). And all the while Randi making sympathetic clucking noises about precious in the background, tisk-tisk.

All this I heard in a 20-30 minute span of time & that was all I could take, ha-ha!

You can email Mr. Ed Schultz about the polls, Palin, Hillary & Roe v wade at:
http://www.bigeddieradio.com/emailEd/index.asp

You can contact Randi Rhodes about the sexist attacks she made on Hillary Clinton all year long (& you may also BLOG) here:

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/

#54 doria on 09.10.08 at 6:39 pm

Our Prowl to Carol Fowler hit its mark! She just issued a statement ‘splainin’ what she really meant. LOL

#55 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 6:40 pm

She apologized in a statement saying ‘ It was a ‘clumsy’ remark ” Good work Pumas !

#56 Grizzly on 09.10.08 at 6:41 pm

Murphy

email sent.

#57 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 6:41 pm

#50 TexasTigress where did you see that

#58 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 6:42 pm

Sly ,They JUST read it on Fox .

#59 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 6:42 pm

#42 freddiebrown
Please post link…………..

#60 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 6:43 pm

#42 freddiebrown,
Let’s watch & wait, Hillary takes the place of Biden, then precious ruled unqualified, then…maybe the planets are finally aligning in favor of the Democratic Party. Only if that happens, we PUMA’s will hold our own special Convention Party for Hillary since she missed the glitz & glamour in Denver.

Nothing we hard-working women haven’t gotten used to, I guess.

#61 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 6:43 pm

Sly have you seen anything on the local news about our e-mails ?

#62 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 6:44 pm

#57 ummm ok then I was just there and I didn’t see it where I did just found out though it was her horrible husband who made that horrible comment about the hurricane and hitting during the RNC..

#63 Lara08 on 09.10.08 at 6:45 pm

Re: HC stepping in as VP

Some friends and I had started discussing this possibility about a week ago when “someone” came on to this blog and asked us what we thought about HC being the VP. If she took the VP slot now I would be absolutely torn but saddened that I could not vote for her. I’m soooo sorry HC, but I just couldn’t vote for BO and the ONC (formerly DNC) as it is now. At this point I am embarrassed to call myself a Democrat. I can’t believe that BO would attack Palin as he has. She attacked him on his lack of experience. She didn’t hurl personal attacks. Can you imagine the uproar if she had implied BO was a pig! No ma’am, Sen. Clinton. I can’t get involved with the DNC as it is now. You can’t help the party anymore, even as the VP. Keep campaigning for downticket Democrats.

Bye for now all. Need to keep up with weather news because there’s another hurricane heading to TX coast.

-Lara08

#64 michelina on 09.10.08 at 6:46 pm

Chrissie D: don’t forget about the “light” that’s going to give us an EPIPHANY—no need for Light Bulbs—we have OBAMA

#65 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:46 pm

Just curious – not to get side tracked… would you guys vote for Obama if Hillary was thrown back on the VP bus ? You never know,, Biden might just suddenly have to check into Alcoholics Anon. because he still has a slight problem after the death of his first wife.

I know I won’t. NEVER. I hope Hillary will not lose her dignity to be used by this man in the name of Unity.

#66 tennaseepuma on 09.10.08 at 6:47 pm

It was coming all along……..I hope she says no,but will she? How could she say no? It will ruin her career,I can not vote for Obama, He is not Americas voice,he is the worlds choice,because he can be bought and he knows nothing about running a country. I hope this is a rumor……damn.

#67 michelina on 09.10.08 at 6:47 pm

PS Prowl Completed and sent BCC

#68 bluegrasstrina on 09.10.08 at 6:47 pm

I am sick to death of hearing the one say that his remark was taken out of context and how the reps were swiftboating this election with lies. Does that man really think we, the Amercian people are that stupid??? Grrrrrrrr he makes me want to vomit.

ok, now back to my supper.

#69 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 6:48 pm

Sly – what’s his name picked up a piece of paper and read it word for word from Fowler right before they started showing the MCCain video . It was very brief .

#70 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 6:49 pm

18 chrissieD They first have to be able to SEE the light.

#71 NewOrleansPuma on 09.10.08 at 6:50 pm

I took a little run over to the McCain website. The place is absolutely inudated, crawling with every manner and kind of roach troll, the likes of which I have not seen in months anywhere. No one there would address an issue I posted over and over….Why are millions of women not going to vote for Obama?
The Obama crew is definitely getting worse and worse.
We must as well intensify every single thing we intend to do. Women will decide this election. We know it and they know it. FOR ONCE, WE WILL DECIDE. We will decide and I don’t care how many Obimbo dudes are emasculated in the process.

#72 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 6:51 pm

kempion..are you yanking our chain with that news about biden?

#73 bluegrasstrina on 09.10.08 at 6:52 pm

64 freddiebrown

No way will I vote democrat in the Presidential election this year. Nope, not even with Hillary as VP. The only way that I will vote for the dem is with Hillary on the TOP of the ticket. nope, no way, not going to happen in this lifetime for me. Nope no no no AND I hope and pray she would turn it down. He would ruin her in one way or another and I hope and pray she knows that.

#74 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 6:53 pm

#248 alice 1943……I agree, But seriously is there such a thing as poor in america. Poor is not owning a car, television, dishwashers and certainly not having cablevision. Poor is poor and those amenities do not equate with the word poor. In my city a couple of weeks back they were giving away 250.00 gas cards ( for the third time this year ). They were showing this on the news and let me tell you I have never seen so many brand new cars owned by POOR people, Oh and they were beating the hell out of each other to get them. You can not expect people to work when all they have to do is wait in a line and get it for free. I am a democrat, but the entitlements have gotten so out of hand that until somebody can step up to the plate and address this, I fear it will continue to get worse. It’s simply good, hard ,work ethic that we need to be doling out, until then China will continue to own us!
post.

#75 michelina on 09.10.08 at 6:53 pm

Couldn’t agree more: Freddiebrown

Too LITTLE TOO LATE, and I would be disappointed in the woman, I think I know, if she did say “yes” for the sake of the party,

I would CLEARLY re-think my JUDGEMENT.

#76 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 6:54 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

PUMAs
Carol Fowler is a disgrace. Let’s tell her so. You have email. Second one for today.

Mama

#77 bluegrasstrina on 09.10.08 at 6:54 pm

#70 NewOrleansPuma

Isn’t it exciting to know that we are being heard and we are not falling in line. I am loving every minute of watching them fall apart and would love to see a billboard in every city that says “what do you think of us now?”

#78 nokoolaid4me on 09.10.08 at 6:55 pm

I will NOT vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket.

He didn’t even consider her the first time around and now that he is dropping in the polls, he wants her back on the bus. HELL NO!!! If she wasn’t good enough to be picked the first time around, then absolutely NO SLOPPY SECONDS FOR SENATOR CLINTON.

Do you think that we should e-mail Senator Clinton and voice our concerns about this to her, what do you pumas think?

#79 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 6:55 pm

michelle..interesting discussion..
i heard on the news that two thirds of the people on earth live on less than 2 dollars a day..just to give you some perspective a high payed skilled worker in china will be lucky to make 900 bucks a year

#80 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 6:55 pm

BTW, Obama and Biden voted for the “Bridge to Nowhere.”

Also, as far as “reform” votes.

McCain scores 100; Obama 10; Biden 0.

Ugh. Obiden/Joebama suck.

#81 stoney42 on 09.10.08 at 6:55 pm

I will not vote for BO, even with Hillary on the ticket.

#82 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 6:56 pm

Freddie – My answer is HELL NO !!! I have been so pissed that he has been trying to pimp her out to do all of the work HE CAN”T – ie. get votes ! There is No way in hell I will vote for him – I don’t care if Janice Joplin comes back from the dead to run as his VP – I will NEVER vote for OBAMA !!! NEVER .

#83 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 6:56 pm

#64 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:46 pm

Just curious – not to get side tracked… would you guys vote for Obama if Hillary was thrown back on the VP bus ? You never know,, Biden might just suddenly have to check into Alcoholics Anon. because he still has a slight problem after the death of his first wife.

I know I won’t. NEVER. I hope Hillary will not lose her dignity to be used by this man in the name of Unity.
———
I can’t go there with this question yet…

The way things stand, NO!

Hillary to push both boys out of the position and pick her VP, HELL YES!!!!!!!!!

#84 mccaindemo on 09.10.08 at 6:57 pm

OH BROTHER…a panel of ol white guys(FOX) on ‘Lipstick’ saying BO ‘clearly’ didn’t mean anything about the lipstick gaffe..they really don’t get it ,they just don’t understand how that comment offends.

How about that abortion comment by Carol Fowler of South Carolina? Honestly, the lib demo women truly dump all over their own …doesn’t seem to matter if it is liberal(Hillary) or conservative candidates (Palin).

#85 Hillgirl on 09.10.08 at 6:57 pm

Hello, everyone,
I don’t think it would be wise for them to put Hillary in as VP at this point–blatant manipulation and more corruption. Also, I don’t know if she would accept. As for myself, I have always said that I am not in favor of her being VP because she would do all of the work, have all of the ideas, and get none of the credit. Obama has already plagiarized her unapologetically and without giving her credit. He has stolen her words during the primaries and has stolen her platform during the GE campaign.

#86 NewOrleansPuma on 09.10.08 at 6:57 pm

#48Yournorthernneihbor..and guess what?
The roach trolls right now on the McCain site are mimicking the same phrase, let’s talk about the issues..these sick succors. Can you believe this is the United States of America? All of these people willing to simply follow a script. This is really dangerous for our country.

#87 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 6:58 pm

hillary isnt stupid..she sure the hell knows taking a VP slot spells doom for her presidential aspirations

#88 tennaseepuma on 09.10.08 at 6:58 pm

Hillary should already know we wont support that ticket,we blogged nonstop about it right before dingbat picked Biden.

#89 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 6:59 pm

texas…. hillary dont need any “cheap thrills” like being VP
:lol:

#90 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 6:59 pm

- I don’t care if Janice Joplin comes back from the dead to run as his VP -

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I AM OLD ENOUGH TO APPRECIATE THAT ONE!
ROCK ON!!!!

#91 NewOrleansPuma on 09.10.08 at 7:00 pm

Hillary Clinton is supporting Barack Obama for President of the United States. That alone disqualifies her in my book for a VP, even if Biden was taken off by a spaceship to Pluto. She has chosen to do what she has chosen to do and I will fight against her choice as fiercely as I fought for her in the Primary. Hillary will take care of her political future. I will take care of my political present and my country, as will millions of others.

#92 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 7:01 pm

#71 osaka puma

Nope.

#93 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:01 pm

it looks like obama is going down..hillary has to be thinking 2012 is her year

#94 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:02 pm

osaka puma – LOL , GOOD ONE !

Billie jo – ya gotta love Janice , no matter how old you are !!!!! :)

#95 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:03 pm

lets flood hillary with mail and beg her please dont do it!!!!
dont do it hill!!!!!!

#96 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 7:03 pm

#68 TexasTigress Oh no I believe you I just thought you meant on the website and I couldn’t find it.

#97 murphy on 09.10.08 at 7:03 pm

so, does this mean we forced Carol Fowler to make an apology WITHIN ONE HOUR of her disgusting comment being published?

nice work Puma PAC.

nice.

#98 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:04 pm

i think if janice was alive shed be a big time hillary supporter

#99 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 7:04 pm

Please don’t start with the Hillary VP rumors. First off, MO will never allow that. Don’t forget that. Bozo despises Hillary. In addition, I think it would make him look weaker than he already does……going oh, McCain made me look stupid so let me have a mulligan on my VP pick. Hillary is also waaaaaaaay too smart to jump on this trainwreck. Bozo has lost his mind due to Palin. He will only get worse.

#100 bluegrasstrina on 09.10.08 at 7:04 pm

I am having trouble posting again. Have to try several times before it goes thru. Anyone else having this problem?

#101 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:05 pm

95 slyt2 Oh , I Know – and when I heard him reading it – I was trying to beat you to post it because we always watch the same shows !!! LOL I keep refreshing the fox page to see when they post it … :)

#102 andy85719 on 09.10.08 at 7:05 pm

Technically had I meant it that way – she would be the lipstick! The failed policies of JM would be the pig.
(Obama joking on Letterman) I want to vomit.

#103 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:05 pm

obama looks like hes losing it..i wonder about his mental stability

#104 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 7:06 pm

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
SWING STATES

A top pollster recently said that OHIO might be the deciding state in Nov… But Rasmussen, on Hannity & Colmes Mon. night, said that VA may be the OH of this election.

I think that the most crucial states (to put our energies into) are OHIO and then PA, Mich and FLand maybe also VA and CO because of their unusual drift to blue (BO!) lately.

*** According to the SF Chronicle (9-7-08), this year’s battleground states; the ones that will be the focus of the presidential campaign (for both Dems & Reps), are:
OH, PA, MI, FL, VA, CO, WI, MO, IN, OR, NM, NV, NC, MT, ND, SD, NH (the first 4 or 5 are the most crucial!)

*******************************************
>remember:
We’re brainstorming & gathering ideas on ways to defeat BO in key SWING STATES (& everywhere, for that matter!)
*******************************************

#105 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 7:06 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

Are you working PUMAs?

Mama

#106 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:06 pm

73 michelle47 I totally agree. But if Obama has his way, we will become a socialist or Communist country and then EVERYBODY will live on ‘entitlements’.

#107 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:07 pm

landi…good thinking!! we all appreciate the heads up on that!

#108 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:07 pm

96 murphy _ NO !!!!!! I looked at the time of your post and the time when Brit Hume was reading the apology and it was 32 minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEE HAAAAAWWWWWWW !

#109 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:07 pm

I will never vote for OB, no matter who his VP is.

nevvvvvvvvvvvver!

#110 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:07 pm

blues..obama can go to hell

#111 storytellers on 09.10.08 at 7:08 pm

good evening pumas
I will have to wait and see how the events develop in @ HILLARY,
but I think, unless she knows this guy does not meet the qualifications for POTUS,therfore might be high possibilities that she might be the candidate, then we talk, but if she just runs @ obimbo, that is not repectable for me

#112 michelina on 09.10.08 at 7:08 pm

HILLARY PRESIDENT

PUKING saying it: BO VP

NO Florida, NO Michigan,—no WHITEHOUSE—-NO DEAL

#113 Blue Blue Gal on 09.10.08 at 7:08 pm

75 MamaPuma
prowl done -

#114 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:08 pm

32 min. sounds better than within an hour :)

#115 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:08 pm

98 Sisterluck News item just on Yahoo says Bill C. is going to campaign for him until; the election. How WEAK is that!!!

#116 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:09 pm

the only scenario i can envisage hillary taking up obamas offer is that if he agrees on some type of power sharing agreement

#117 Boots-and-Saddles on 09.10.08 at 7:09 pm

WOW! just Wow!

Biden says Hillary would have been a better pick for VP.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/biden-on-hillary-may-have-been-better-vp-pick/

You can’t make this stuff up. The nobama campaign has officially transformed into the TRAVELING CIRCUS SHOW!

Hillary would be insane to take it now. She’d be booking a flight on the Hindenberg. Her best option is to sit out a Barry loss and play in 2012.

#118 lionness on 09.10.08 at 7:09 pm

NOBAMA will never dump Biden for Hillary. To do so would mean that he would have to admit that he made a mistake. This would make him look even weaker. They are just going to start saying that anyone who votes for McCain is stupid and they don’t get it. ..I would vote for a Clinton/Biden ticket.

#119 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 7:10 pm

The Dems are looking like crazy, vile baffoons to the nation right now, especially to the Independents. They won’t stop with the idiotic remarks on Palin. I hope the Clintons stay away from this downward spiral…….far, far away.

#120 ladyhawkke on 09.10.08 at 7:10 pm

Found this at http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Didn’t someone post that factcheck is an Obama website? However, the certificate looks authentic and was requested in June/2007. Was that the time he decided to run for POTUS?

I still don’t understand the lawsuit and that he isn’t a citizen because his mother wasn’t a certain age. Even illegal aliens that come here and have children, those children automatically become citizens and the parent doesn’t have to be here any number of required days. My gut feeling tells me this lawsuit isn’t going anywhere. If there were something to it, don’t you think he would have to drop out?

#121 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:10 pm

90 NewOrleansPuma Yes!! Right on!! No one held a gun to her head and made her choose to support him.

#122 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:10 pm

lioness.excellent point….
yeah i would vote clinton biden ..sure thats ok with me

#123 utahpuma on 09.10.08 at 7:10 pm

I emailed and/or faxed off 48 Letters to the Editors in Colorado this morning. Obie is trying to recruit folks from Utah (all expenses paid except food) to go to Colorado and gather support there for him. Poor baby, can’t get enough Coloradoans to support him.

I never heard back from the southwest regional folks and don’t know which Pumas they are.

#124 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 7:10 pm

2nd prowl completed, but got back the one for members returned, not valid email? usually it is to murphy ?

#125 webfoot on 09.10.08 at 7:11 pm

Hi Mama.

#126 texassherry on 09.10.08 at 7:11 pm

Murphy,

Prowl Done. Did you read my email? :wink:

#127 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:11 pm

One more time :) If you didn’t do this already , please do

OK PUMAS !!!!! Yesterday we did Pa. Today I have the Ohio local news e-mails for us !!!! I know we have some AWESOME Ohio Pumas that can keep tabs on the news to see if we pop up anywhere !!!!! Just send them an e- mail about what they are Not reporting on and ask them why – or tell them why you won’t be voting for obama . Include links or facts or both – Lets go get ‘em !!!

heather.pick@10tv.com; jerry.revish@10tv.com; andrea.cambern@10tv.com; 19tips@woio.com; morningshow@wkyc.com; news@wkyc.com; 5tips@newsnet5.com; newsdirector@wlwt.com; BreakingNews@wcpo.com; news@nbc24.com; wtvg.webmaster@abc.com; news@WTOL.com; bwhitney@wkyc.com; news@wfmj.com

#128 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:12 pm

Let’s give all the Puma’s A BIG hug for all the great work we all have been doing!

HUGS to all of you!

#129 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 7:12 pm

I am trying to write CBS and Katie C to find out why they made McCains ad come down but yet the other ad is allowed up there with Palin then McCain then Katie why isn’t that one forced to come down. Also emailing Ben Smith to see if he will write about it also since he wrote a article about it having to come down on politico

#130 ladyhawkke on 09.10.08 at 7:13 pm

#90 New Orleans Puma I know where you’re coming from and as Alice1943 says, no one is holding a gun to her head. But you have to understand, she has to do this as if she is seen not supporting him, when she decides to run, all the Obots will blame her if he loses and then she won’t have their support. I know, it’s a dirty business, but McCain ate crow 8 years ago and look at where he is now.

#131 storytellers on 09.10.08 at 7:14 pm

#98 sisterluck
and remember ms bozzo , is the one really behind him, and she would not allow that to happen
and also you have pelosi and brazile , they both hate HILLARY, and they would rather die than see HILLARY in the WH

#132 nokoolaid4me on 09.10.08 at 7:15 pm

Fox News just showed a clip of Biden making that statement that Hillary would have been a good VP choice for Obuma. What disturbs me is that the pundit at the end of story eluded that maybe Biden is up to something. Oh boy, I hope that this is not true…

#133 utahpuma on 09.10.08 at 7:15 pm

I will email/fax Nevada and New Mexico tomorrow.

I only have newspaper databases for several western states so will try to help by contacting them.

#134 nokoolaid4me on 09.10.08 at 7:16 pm

We have to prowl Senator Clinton and tell her not to accept the VP slot.

#135 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 7:16 pm

Can someone get the Palin picture to Sean Hannity?

#136 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:16 pm

hannity come on pretty soon.he should have some news on this biden thing

#137 lionness on 09.10.08 at 7:17 pm

#103 Swing state ideas

I think that we should buy radio advertising on small regional radio stations or in local newspapers in the rural/suburban areas of swing states, one week before the election so that the other side cannot respond. We should highlight our PUMA grievances and urge people not to vote for OBAMA. Perhaps we could publish the PUMA slate for that district and simultaneously target the superdelegates who took money from NOBAMA and voted against the will of the voters in their district.

#138 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:17 pm

132 utahpuma – I am working on a news station e-mail contact list right now for New Mexico that I will post tomorrow as well ..

#139 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:18 pm

I wish Hillary could go on a long vacation in another country until the election in November. Then no more helping Bozo.

#140 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:18 pm

The best thing BO could do for america is to get the HELL out of politics.

#141 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:18 pm

alice..AMEN!!!

#142 mpdamon on 09.10.08 at 7:19 pm

ChrissieD

Re: Obama & lightbulbs. The one I like best is that Obama just holds the light bulb and the world revolvers around him.

What an election! Note how the Repubs debunk all the maliscious rumors, pictures, and innuendos the Obamabots try to propogate. Wish the Dems had been half as pro-active.

#143 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 7:19 pm

#94 osaka puma
lets flood hillary with mail and beg her please dont do it!!!!
dont do it hill!!!!!!

Sounds like a plan!

#98 Sisterluck

Politicians love the chase as much as winning.

#128 slyt2

CBS claimed the material was copyrighted and YouTube took it down.

#144 mpdamon on 09.10.08 at 7:19 pm

Freddie

Are you working on any new posters?

#145 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:20 pm

obamas problem is hes a goddamn liar,fraud and phony..if he would have been straight and honest he could have won my support

#146 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:20 pm

129 ladyhawkke Let the Obots say or do what they will. Hillary could do much better by distancing herself from them anyway.

#147 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 7:21 pm

Nice to know what the current sentiment is regarding Hillary – just in case….it happens.

Mark my words – something is up with Biden – he is going to throw in the towel (seemingly voluntarily) and Obama is going to bring in Hillary since Biden is now out of commission . Something of that nature.

If I am right – I will heave and vomit and If I am wrong, I owe each and everyone a drink with an umbrella on top.

OK – back to serious stuff and holding of breath until tomorrow or ?

#148 michelina on 09.10.08 at 7:21 pm

No KOOLAID 4ME-Yes, if it is TRUE

We should Tell HER and BIG DAWG-NO DEAL !!!!!!!!

#149 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 7:21 pm

#134 hillary2008 which picture do you want?

#150 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:21 pm

i think bill will counsel hillary to wait until 2012 ..she will win then

#151 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 7:22 pm

Two prowls for today PUMAs

do both – it is good for you.

Mama

#152 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 7:22 pm

Murphy, supposedly the original Politico story about “lips” has been changed slightly – I did what you asked though and copied the whole page and saved it to my computer!!

#153 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 7:23 pm

Chris Matthews just called PUMAS the “lipstick” crowd to Brabra Boxer. They are soooooooo desperate. Maybe Trish can make a video to “Desperado”by Linda Ronstat (sp). BB is calling Palin “Cheney”without the experience.

#154 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:23 pm

Fowler’s apology :

“I personally admire and respect the difficult choices that women make everyday, and I apologize to anyone who finds my comment offensive,” she said in a written statement. “I clumsily was making a point about people in South Carolina who may vote based on a single issue. Whether it’s the environment, the economy, the war or a woman’s right to choose, there are people who will cast their vote based on a single issue. That was the only point I was attempting to make.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/sc-democratic-chair-palins-chief-qualification-is-she-hasnt-had-an-abortion/

#155 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:24 pm

i have bulk mail software im going to send out an email blast to hillary pleading please do not let us down and to tell obama..thanks but no thanks

#156 cjv on 09.10.08 at 7:24 pm

:lol: I get home from work, try to read a fast as possible, see a new post, read as fast as possible, then another new post……..

Tried to save a good link, to repost, but lost it….

One of the prowls done.

#157 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:24 pm

146 freddiebrown Maybe Biden is thinking about checking into Rehab. LOL

#158 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:25 pm

#149 Osaka Puma

Oh, I hope Bill will do that. I would love to see Hillary as our President in 2012.

#159 storytellers on 09.10.08 at 7:25 pm

did berg said anything about the lawsuit last night on the radio?

#160 Middle age female on 09.10.08 at 7:25 pm

45 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:34 pm HA !!!
MARK MY WORDS…

Biden is setting the stage for a step down – to put Hillary up. It is so obvious now. What a sham.

They are throwing Hillary back into the bus.
****************
That was my thought exactly. But, if that happens I see three things:
(1) It would make BO really look weak – more than usual.
(2)It would show BO does not have good judgement and continues to flip-flop.
(3) It would not bring back a lot of the Hillary for Pres voters as she belongs at the top of the ticket.

#161 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 7:26 pm

#143 mpdamon on 09.10.08 at 7:19 pm
Freddie
Are you working on any new posters?

******* I started but couldn’t get it together. People wanted this to be information in bullet form but factual.
With Obama fact and fallacy are so intertwined.

So now, we have an unfinished poster. I was thinking of a NO BAMA sticker that all you guys can use and hand out.

#162 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 7:26 pm

154 TexasTigress I really think it was our emails – next time though I have to do one for my husband and then for my brother!! :lol:

#163 Kelligesq on 09.10.08 at 7:26 pm

OHIO

VOTE AGAINST REP. JOHN BOENER 8TH DISTRICT

BOENER & REPUBLICANS TRYING TO REMOVE DEM CHARLIE RANGEL WHO IS ABOUT TO STEER HEALTHCARE BILL THROUGH CONGRESS – gee I wonder who put him up to that ? Donna .

#164 michelina on 09.10.08 at 7:26 pm

YOUR DAMNED RIGHT MURPHY—PUMA—UNLEASHED!!

#165 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 7:26 pm

Dances,

Thanks for posting the link way up thread for DemCon. Good sight, though it’s frustrating that they and other similar sites don’t always clarify if the numbers they’re posting are pledged or pledged + supers. In any case, glad to have it to add to my favorites. I thought the list of huge loses for her was great (if not also depressing). You look at those big states, know how big she won them, and then look at the loss and it’s just another one of those WTF moments. (WTF has become my new baseline of functioning of late!)

#166 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 7:27 pm

i wish sarah would invite chris matthews up to wasilla and trick him into placing his lips on a window pane..
I can just see his tongue and lips glued to that window..hahahaha

#167 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:27 pm

Hi MAMAPUMA!

#168 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 7:27 pm

It is like a the Dems are having a kinipshin fit. Some one put a wallet in there mouth so they don’t swallow there tongue.

Too late, call 911.

#169 murphy on 09.10.08 at 7:27 pm

QUICK UPDATE: Be sure to listen in tonight to The Lion’s Share on Puma United Radio (PURrrr) at 8pm eastern. Sheri, Riverdaughter, and I have a jam-packed show planned for tonight. Listen live HERE!

#170 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 7:27 pm

I feel strange, like maybe Biden is preparing the public for a switch.

OR, he’s the only half-smart person in Obama camp by behaving decently toward Hillary and her supporters.

Instead of Biden being an attack dog, looks like Obama is the attack dog. Let’s figure out why this is happening. Let’s ask why Biden is not with Obama during stumps like he was?

Palin is at McCain stumps.

Biden is the one who said that the attacks against Palin were sexist. Not Obama. Now Biden is saying this about Hillary.

What is going on? What’s this political strategy?

#171 murphy on 09.10.08 at 7:27 pm

i mean here!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

#172 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 7:28 pm

147 freddiebrown – Something IS up – he did not say that ‘off the cuff’ .. Maybe it is Obama that is dropping out though ….. hmmmm – that would be interesting …. Maybe he found out the Repubs have something he can’t get out of or maybe it’s the Berg case ……

#173 Middle age female on 09.10.08 at 7:28 pm

Also, if Biden drops out and BO then picks Hillary, it would look like a kid who got beat up at the playground and went home and brought his mommy back to make it all better.

#174 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 7:28 pm

Home.
Prowls down… well, email prowl from my email addresses, but couldn’t do the fax. Oh, wait!That free fax thingie! woo hooooo. brb

MamaPuma… see? You mustve been away too long… people have missed you!!

#175 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 7:29 pm

#174 Dances

What free fax thingie?

#176 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 7:30 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_obama

#177 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 7:30 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_obama

#178 storytellers on 09.10.08 at 7:30 pm

if HILLARY goes as VP, all the rabble that support him . would not vote for him, he will loose anyway

#179 lionness on 09.10.08 at 7:30 pm

September 10, 2008
Fowler Responds
Posted by BLAKE DVORAK RCP BLOG

Just sent over from her office, SC Democratic Chairman Carol Fowler responds to her comments earlier today that Sarah Palin’s “primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion”:

I personally admire and respect the difficult choices that women make everyday, and I apologize to anyone who finds my comment offensive. I clumsily was making a point about people in South Carolina who may vote based on a single issue. Whether it’s the environment, the economy, the war or a woman’s right to choose, there are people who will cast their vote based on a single issue. That was the only point I was attempting to

#180 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 7:31 pm

kat in your hat: http://www.faxzero.net or .com

#181 sandipuma on 09.10.08 at 7:31 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/politics

#182 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 7:31 pm

#140 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:18 pm

HA, that’s a pipe dream. Bozo only cares about himself. He will throw anyone and anything under the bus and stomp on it to get power even the country he supposedly wants to lead. He has a secret agenda. As Bozo said himself…..the devil is in the details. The details are these little comments, misspeaks, and eerily scary missing info on him that speak to who he really is.

On a different topic, beat it IKE! :(

#183 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 7:32 pm

#134 hillary2008 which picture do you want? Is it the one on Politico?

#184 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 7:32 pm

#143 Kempion well they haven’t taken the one down with the one with

#185 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 7:32 pm

Switching V.P. pick, has that ever happened? I seriously doubt it will, that would show the citizens of the world that Obama is getting his ass kicked by a so called pig….He is a loser, he knows it, we know it and soon the world will know it too! We know he is dumb, but that kind of stupidity? He would be showcasing how inexperienced he really is, I just don’t see it.

He still would not get my vote.

#186 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 7:32 pm

Hey Murphy,
what could you possibly have to talk about tonight??

#187 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 7:34 pm

Errr… we better stop this hypothetical Biden/Hillary discussion before Murphy throws me out of the bus.

I notice that quite a few folks are still having trouble posting.. I use the browser called Opera now . It opens up the blog like a charm. Before that, I was on Explorer and had to try a dozen times before it even opens – all the time. I was going crazy. but with Opera it tends to tell you you’re posting to fast. You just have to keep clicking submit.
So try Opera.com – no that that Oprah !

#188 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 7:34 pm

#184 1gypsy4mc

The one with the whip and moose.

#189 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 7:35 pm

Maybe they are finally seeing how they have all been duped by Karl Rove. The Repubs knew they couldn’t beat Hillary. So they sent in Rove to promote Obama, who is unacceptable to over half of americans.

#190 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:35 pm

Tonight on O’Reilly is OB’s last piece of his interview. i have been watching it. He always tries to squirm out of every question. I would like to see Hannity interview him. That would be something to see.

#191 kids1627 on 09.10.08 at 7:36 pm

They won’t switch VP it would be the end of the race there are some things you just can’t flip-flop on and that is one he would be done they are just petting Bill because they now realize just who the Clinton’s are and what they mean to the base it’s to late now .IMO

#192 ladyhawkke on 09.10.08 at 7:37 pm

PROTEST UNFAIR PAY FOR WOMEN
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/251859461?z00m=16544636

#193 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 7:37 pm

kat – it’s a campaign in full-meltdown mode.

#194 NewOrleansPuma on 09.10.08 at 7:37 pm

#130Ladyhawke: I am not naive. I know by logic and observation some of why she is doing what she is doing. But, let’s follow some other logic as well. If he wins, she will recieve no credit from the party, because their move, that which put up Obingo in the first place, was among other things a move to move both Clintons out of decisive power positions within the party, which they had retained since his Presidency. If he looses, she will be blamed within the party for the same reason. The tremendous effort to remove both from a major power base has so far been successful. Look where she is and where the Party is. This party is going to take more than a loss by Obambi for it to be reformed, but without a loss by Obambi, there is no reform anytime in the next 8 years. As I said, she made her choice for other reasons as well, none of which any of us will ever know. I don’t care what her reasons are now. She has not just eaten crow: she has eaten the dung of this fraud. That is her choice. My choice is as I stated. I will work as furiously against her choice..Obingo as I did for her. And I have as much told her that, by email, more than once. She understands that, I am sure. She is a pragmatic politician and so am I, a pragmatic politicial participant: a voter. so be it.

#195 sandipuma on 09.10.08 at 7:39 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105288&page=1

#196 ladyhawkke on 09.10.08 at 7:40 pm

At a Capitol Hill news conference today, Hillary Clinton defended Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment, accusing McCain of using the controversy to distract from substantive issues in the campaign.

“Barack has made this clear,” she said responding to a question about the lipstick remark, which Republicans have condemned as a “disgraceful” and “sexist” attack on Palin. “It was no way meant as an affront.”

#197 cjv on 09.10.08 at 7:41 pm

45 freddiebrown

It is possible that they may be rethinking their VP choice. I sure hope it is not so. The entire campaign is now unraveling which I predicted long ago. To include her into this mess is way too late in the game. And to include her is also incredibly demeaning. Again and again, we all know – She won, she is the qualifeid cnadidate for POTUS, nothing less.
What the right thing to do (and even now it may be too late) is to have Uhbama step down and give her the nomination for POTUS.
But again, it is too late. And I believe the general feeling among most was if to have her as the VP to begin with would not bring enough votes to give him a win anyway.
Let him carry this through as is so that he goes down so hard so fast that his reputation will be unrecoverable, get voted out of public office entirely and we can hopefully can think of him down the road only as a temporary nightmare and then quickly erase him out of our minds forever.

#198 bluesgal on 09.10.08 at 7:42 pm

I gotta leave for a while. Gotta go eat. See all of you later!

#199 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 7:42 pm

WINNING – Voters

The deceiver is being revealed and the poles are showing it. But there is still the election. Obama is registering new voters. We need to get the existing voters to the polls.

Voting and Registration 2004 Report:
http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p20-556.pdf

2006 Eligibility Estimates:
http://elections.gmu.edu/Voter_Turnout_2006.htm

#200 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 7:43 pm

Why isn’t Biden ever on TV news?

#201 utahpuma on 09.10.08 at 7:44 pm

All this talk about switching VP ‘s makes me fantisize.
Maybe Obie wants to pick a female VP now to match with Palin. Gee, how about Paloozi. Wouldn’t that just choke a donkey!! :)

Ya gotta keep your sense of humor with these guys!!

#202 turndownobama on 09.10.08 at 7:44 pm

chrissieD,

I have a lot of links at ironmyvote.com/#obamabackground to good sources about his mother and his early life.

I think his mother got some food stamps after Obama was no longer living with her. She wasn’t impoverished most of the time. His grandparents who raised him and sent him to private school were well off; his grandmother was a bank executive.

Most of his claims seem to be lies.

#203 ladyhawkke on 09.10.08 at 7:44 pm

#194 New OrleansPuma I, too, have told her how I feel, by fax, she should have kept her word and never given up. However, she is in a different position than Palin, Palin has the backing of her party, Clinton’s party is back stabbing her. The party is to blame as they were pushing her out even as she was winning, I can imagine how she felt. Sarah Palin would be in the same position if her party turned against her.

I’m still at a loss to understand the delegates, delegates who could be people like you and I. I would never have given in to their threats, never. CA stood their ground and the passed, so it is impossible for Clinton to do anything other than what she is doing. Dirty Politics.

#204 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 7:45 pm

#48 MamaPuma
Thank you mama. I loved cooking for all of our hungry, and tired Puma’s. We were all getting cranky from lack of real food. Thank you so much for supplying the food and just telling us to make what we can out of it. It was a challenge that I could not resist!
And thank you for being there for all of us. You truly are our MAMA PUMA, and I really appreciate you.

#205 Your northern neighbor on 09.10.08 at 7:45 pm

#86 NewOrleansPuma

….Can you believe this is the United States of America….?
*********************************************

The USA with her Statue of Liberty, has represented Freedom and Democracy around the globe to countless people in our lifetime. However, for the last 8 years and without a choice, the whole world witnessed this symbol of strength destroyed single-handedly by Bush and Cheney right before our eyes, all but for a few barrels of oil and change.

Well, ok, everyone thought that at least a lesson is learned and nothing can be worse.

Then out come Obama, Nancy and her gang, complete with thugs. Wow, just speechless! These guys will make Bush look like an innocent little kid in the park.

I can go on and on but we all know how the story goes.

I am just so thankful that people such as Murphy and Pumas stood up and say NO.

We Pumas have a lot of work to do.

#206 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 7:45 pm

kat in your hat

2 free faxes per day:
faxzero.com

#207 murphy on 09.10.08 at 7:45 pm

freddiebrown, throw you off the bus??

I thought you were driving this thing!!

#208 Kempion on 09.10.08 at 7:46 pm

#196 ladyhawkke

Something about lying with dogs and fleas… *scratching head*

#209 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 7:46 pm

“The problem is they are still speaking to the blogger boyz in the crowd, the ones there for the free concert. They haven’t figured out yet that this is now the general election and the rest of us are listening.”

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/10/the-day-pigs-flew/

#210 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 7:47 pm

Ok i think I emailed everyone I could think of to found out why that you tube is still up if Katie and CBS news had such a problem with McCain’s ad using her in it. We will see what happens if anything.

#211 michelina on 09.10.08 at 7:47 pm

Gotta Go now: Don’t Forget the PROWL:

NO DEALS: BIG DAWG, SENATOR CLINTON

A VP choice at this point is political suicide, just like the disenfrechisement of Florida and Michigan.

They don’t know it yet, the DNC and BO, but they LOST on 5/31/08

The DAY DEMOCRACY DIED

#212 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 7:48 pm

it just got me thinking thanks for the clarification on the food stamps thing it made me wonder a lot….since Obama seems to want to convicne people that he is just “one of them” and understands…

#213 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 7:48 pm

#210: slyt2

I think it’s because the ad makes it seem that Katie Couric is responding to Obama’s lipstick comment, which is misleading.

#214 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 7:50 pm

Biden is just sucking up, he knows he’s going down with the ship. He just needs a little life preserver for 2012! When Obama loses, which will happen, Hillary will emerge the leader of the democratic party once again! There will be plenty of lips plastered to her ass on November 5th, and the world will be just as it should be!

#215 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 7:50 pm

#71 NewOrleansPuma- maybe you could contact the McCain campaign on the website or via email and suggest they do to them what Murphy had the guts to do. Publish their ip addresses and posts. Its the only way they will get rid of them. PUBLIC SHAME…works everytime…right Murhy?

#216 ladyhawkke on 09.10.08 at 7:50 pm

What does everyone think of my post at #120? Has anyone checked out the BC?

#217 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.10.08 at 7:50 pm

#197 cjv

She should not get anywhere near the Obama stink bomb when it’s going down. She needs to stay completely clear until he falls completely flat so she can rise from the dust.

#218 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 7:50 pm

#213 I was hoping maybe they didn’t know that one was up there since it isn’t getting any air play on TV but that could be too. I don’t know I was mad so I emailed them all.

#219 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 7:50 pm

bluesgal

Hey there

Mama

#220 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 7:51 pm

My theme song right now. “Oh No You Didn’t!”
I am singing this to the Dems!

http://www.pandemicstudios.com/mercenaries/audio/Oh_No_Full_Length.mp3

You owed me Hillary!

#221 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 7:51 pm

On Citizens for McCain, they have a section to sign up to join and work, There is a section asking if you worked for HILLARY!

#222 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 7:51 pm

Actually, to Biden’s credit, they were bashing Hill when he made the, “she probably more qualified to be VP than I am,” statement. I don’t like Biden at all, but he was actually defending Hill…. (I guess even the jerks can be alright every now and again)

Claws Out!

#223 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 7:52 pm

Is anyone watching fox Shepard Smith was getting kind of mad at that guy who was sticking up for BO and friends, it was pretty good. A little tongue lashing lol.

#224 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.10.08 at 7:52 pm

#214 michelle47

“There will be plenty of lips plastered to her ass on November 5th, and the world will be just as it should be!”

Yeah, they will.

#225 Blue Blue Gal on 09.10.08 at 7:52 pm

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/EL/content/htm/el.011.00.000192.00.htm#192.031.00

remember when we all started to check into when the last day for a nominew’s name to be placed on the ballot? well i started to read what the replacement scenerio is – the above link is for texas – i believe all our states are somewhat similar – maybe someone can make heads or tails of the code.

#226 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 7:55 pm

the other thing that I don’t understand is the whole african american claim. I mean to me the way I understand it is that obama is half kenyan half american and biracial. and it seems to be to be very opportunistic on his part to claim to be african american in the traditional sense of the word and black just so that he can appeal to the aa voting bloc and ride on the glory of great aa leaders and activists like martin luther king. and I mean he hasn’t shared that much background at all with the average african american or average american like attending all those private schools in indonesia and hawaii while other aas were struggling and getting shot in the hood obama had all the advantages of his white side. its as ridiculous to me as an african american running in elections in a country in africa and seriously expecting to win since people would tell him/her listen u are american and u cannot identify with our issues. I mean to me the real reason this election is historic is that its the first time some1 who has kenyan heritage and is biracial has a chance not cos of being an aa. nor has he done that much for the aa communities I mean where are the charities and donations he has started and given to struggling aas. it seems to me that obama jumped on the aa ticket instead of just being who he is halfkenyan half american and biracial. I mean the people of kenya are proud for this reason that its the 1st time some1 who has kenyan heritage has a chance..

#227 Blue Blue Gal on 09.10.08 at 7:56 pm

scroll down a little on the link

bbl – thank you, husband – dinner on table

#228 annavedo on 09.10.08 at 7:57 pm

Just got my first tattoo yesterday… Check me out. One friend told me I carry the “mark of the PUMA!”

http://notvotingforobama.com/images/PUMA.jpg

#229 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 7:58 pm

Oh, you mean the picture on this thread? S.P and the moose and her whip?

#230 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 7:58 pm

Prowles Done

#231 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 7:58 pm

I posted this on a question and I got a response ” from a person who claimed to be biracial that obama is making it very difficult for biracial children who always feel pressured to take a side (choose one of their parents identities) instead of celebrating who they are as individuals and embracing the cultures of both she said to me that obama claims to be the great uniter but if he really wants to start uniting people he needs to start with himself

#232 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 7:59 pm

And I just loved the way so many were defending 61 and his “pig” self today…. OH, no, he would never mean that! Give me a break, he said it just as he wanted to say it…. He is such a PIG! I was reading (don’t remember where, geez) that they are still discounting the fact that PUMAs even are a real group of people…. They are in for such a rude awakening….

Claws Out….. Roar!!!!!

#233 murphy on 09.10.08 at 7:59 pm

radio show about to start

listen live here

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont%20

#234 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 8:02 pm

Oh No OOOOOOOO’Reilly!

#235 Kelligesq on 09.10.08 at 8:03 pm

LOU DOBBS TONITE

one of his radio broadcasters said ” I;ve been saying for years there’s going to be a revolution in this country – and it’s coming – and it’s wearing lipstick, a skirt, and heels. ”

It was a discussion about how the elected don’t listen to the people, in this context, about “sanctuary cities” and refusing to secure our borders.

Congrats Pumas. You are known around the country, and an awful lot is expected of us…. leading the revolution (lol) is a big order !

#236 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:03 pm

Yeah, O’Reilly, speaking of pigs…..

#237 Gogandalf on 09.10.08 at 8:04 pm

#122 UtahPuma – can you post on here the listing of editors in Colorado – I want to do the same -

#238 Tomboys on 09.10.08 at 8:04 pm

Is the chat open on blogtalk?

#239 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 8:04 pm

Bill O’Reilly does not believe that BO consciously compared Palin to a pig.

#240 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:05 pm

_________________________________

:!: WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO IN NOV. [#1]

** TACTICS & ACTION STEPS: **
——————

• – Make phone callsorganize phone-banks

• – Talk to others –> • Canvass door-to-door –-> • Give TALKS to groups. –->

• – Throw Anti-BO PARTIES or ‘get-togethers’ (w/ speakers, handouts, food & drinks)

• – Distribute flyers, brochures, info-handouts, etc –> • Put up FLYERS/posters all over (esp. where they’ll do most good). –>

• – Display & distribute bumper stickers, buttons, yard/window signs, etc (“NObama”, “Dems for Mac”, etc) w/web addresses on them of PUMA/JSND/Anti-BO sites.

• – Write Letters to the Editor AND put ADS in major newspapers AND in local ‘free’ papers & mags. –

• – Start & spread Viral Emails –> • Forward persuasive articles & links –>

• – BLOG… post comments & links in all good Websites (like news-sites) that reach many people (Let’s list their addresses here!). –> • Start your own Blog or Website or submit articles to existing ones –-> • Vote on Web polls

*************************************
• – Contact LOCAL media (TV, RADIO, NEWSPAPERS), in key SWING STATES, to encourage coverage of whatever can help our cause. –> Send them relevant info, stories, etc –>
• – Also, contact NATIONAL media, esp. those pundits & reporters NOT in the tank for BO who are more open to report our views …–>
• – Pass along any good anti-BO &/or PUMA-related info or news for them to report… –>
• – Also: Give TV & radio INTERVIEWS (like Murphy & Will do).

*** Contacting LOCAL media in key SWING STATES is the idea/project of TexasTigress… See her ongoing posts for contact addresses in the key swing states.

**************************************

–>> LET’S GET MORE IDEAS, ACTION-STEPS AND ACTION-COMMITMENTS GOING!

–>> POST YOUR IDEAS, WHAT YOU’RE DOING AND WHAT YOU’RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO!!!
_____________________________________

#241 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 8:05 pm

Ok, so for O’Reilly Obama is not a sexist, he is the village idiot.

Ok,…

#242 annabelle on 09.10.08 at 8:07 pm

You folks are so impressive! I just slipped off for an hour to have a couple of beers with feelow teahcers, and here y’all have already managed to force Ms. Fowler to apologize! Does anyone know if she’s related to our old friend Don Fowler?

http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/god-is-on-our-side/

http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/and-now-for-a-moment-of-outrage/

#243 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:07 pm

I am so disappointed in Bill O he has turned into such a wimp, the way he stands up for BO now makes me think he is on his payroll. Although he did throw that little bit in about BO would have to be “really stupid” to say that about her.

#244 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:07 pm

61, europe is mad cuz we don’t get it… What a piece of crap he is……….

#245 Dem4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:08 pm

okay so Nobama has apparently gotten Big Dog on board with him. If Obama apologized to Bill for tearing him down, it shouldn’t just be behind closed doors. I was offended by the accusations of declaring both of the Clintons racists. Damn, what are they doing?

Other than just keeping her name out there for 2012?

#246 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:08 pm

#241 annabelle yea it’s his wife go figure..

#247 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 8:08 pm

Bill O’Reilly interviewing BO. BO has no plan for energy development. Just spend money and and expect innovation. Sounds like something that would draw a left-wing feeding frenzy. I wonder what Bill Ayres is going to invent.

#248 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:08 pm

Annabelle – he’s her HUSBAND !

#249 YesSheCan on 09.10.08 at 8:09 pm

ladyhawke

For me it’s not where he was born, it’s the fact that he may have had dual citizenship, and used an Indonesian passport as an adult, probably when he went to Pakistan in 1981 for “around” 3 weeks, and maybe again in 1994 when he and Michele spent 3 months in Bali in Indonesia so he could write his book.

#250 Dem4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:09 pm

THE AUDACITY for Obama to compare himself to clinton is sickening.

Damnit, Bill

#251 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:09 pm

#237 Tomboys it should be I don’t see why it wouldn’t be

#252 goodcitizen on 09.10.08 at 8:09 pm

#121 Alice1943, right now Hillary is in DNC’s political prison. If Hillary is going to be put as VP, I believe she is smart enough how to deal with it. It might be a good chance for her to turn around, never say never. 2012 is still 4 more years to go, a lot of things can happen.

#253 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:10 pm

And 61 has some makeup on his mole, it was black the other day, now it looks like a zit…. (pop it!)

And his touching of the leg is so damn gross, that is why O’Reilly thinks he is so powerful… I think there is a man crush there.

#254 Amarissa on 09.10.08 at 8:10 pm

BIDEN SAYS HILLARY WAS BETTER… LOL

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/biden-on-hillary-may-have-been-better-vp-pick/

#255 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 8:10 pm

“Obama/Ayers/Annenberg Update: The NY Times finally mentions the A-word ”

http://globallabor.blogspot.com/

(Click on first title)

#256 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:11 pm

_______________________________________

:!: WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO IN NOV. [#2]

** TACTICS & ACTION STEPS: **
—————————-

• – Reach out to key voting blocs that can make a real difference in Nov., such as LATINOS, SENIORS, YOUNG PEOPLE, HRC-voters, WOMEN, Vets, gays, etc… ->>

• – Some ways to reach these key groups:
– Latino & Senior Centers (put/drop flyers, give talks)
publications geared to these groups (put ads, articles, Letters to Editors)
– Hispanic radio & TV stations (put ads, send newsworthy items)
– Hispanic food markets (flyers)
College campuses (flyers, give talks, etc).

—————————————-

–>> LET’S DEVELOP THIS ONE FURTHER…. Any ideas on reaching out to key voting groups?

–>> SUBMIT YOUR IDEAS ON STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO.
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#257 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 8:12 pm

Whaaaaat……did O’Reilly get cast under the kool-aid spell?

#258 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 8:12 pm

Amarissa, this is off topic, but I noticed an ad on the right hand side of the article you posted.

Is anyone else sick of the generic “hottie” doe doe head girl being advertised for singles/ dating internet sites all over the internet?

So.tired.of.it.

#259 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:13 pm

231 erickaAZ,

Hi!
Do you know why they are defending him? Because they do not want to loose their jobs or be demoted like the clowns from MSNBC, they have to be more neutral than ever!

#260 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 8:15 pm

Headcluncker -

Thanks for posting up thread about the Dems voter reg drive. It’s huge. Hundreds of thousands of new, mostly young college kids, being registered. None of us should be feeling like this is all locked up by any stretch of the imagination. There’s a long way to go till election day and we need to stay vigilant on all fronts. Thanks again for that post.

#261 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:15 pm

____________________________

:!: WAYS & STRATEGIES TO DEFEAT BO IN NOV. [#1]

** TACTICS & ACTION STEPS: **
————————-

• – We are compiling a LIST of “Reasons Why You Should NOT Vote For BO”

• – these talking points can be used not only in FLYERS & handouts AND to help us present our case when talking to others, etc… • but ALSO for anyone to copy portions and email them off (to friends, to undecided Dems, among key groups [translated to Spanish for Hispanics]).
• – CREATE YOUR OWN VIRAL EMAILS!!!

• – Gather & organize your favorite TALKING POINTS; the most cogent & powerful ones. • Write, carry them w/you & review them… so you’re always ready to persuade & convince!

————————————-

*** Feel free to contribute TALKING POINTS for our ongoing list of for “Reasons Why You Should NOT Vote For BO”

———————————

#262 YesSheCan on 09.10.08 at 8:16 pm

Fowler:
“I clumsily was making a point about people in South Carolina who may vote based on a single issue. Whether it’s the environment, the economy, the war or a woman’s right to choose, there are people who will cast their vote based on a single issue. ”

But they’ve been threatening us over reproductive rights for 2 weeks. They’re hoping we’ll vote on a single issue. lol

#263 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 8:18 pm

#242 slyt2 wrote”
“I am so disappointed in Bill O he has turned into such a wimp, the way he stands up for BO now makes me think he is on his payroll. Although he did throw that little bit in about BO would have to be “really stupid” to say that about her.”

“really stupid” That is his point and mine too.

You all argue with husbands and boy friends just like me. First they say something dumb. Then your angry. Then they say something really ignorant like ” Why are you angry?”. Then if you don’t kill them out right, you end up explaining why and they still don’t get it. No sex.

To all the men.

1. Acknowledge there feelings unqualified.

2. Say you are sorry.

3. Enplane your self.

4. mate hugs forgives, apologizes for over reaction and cries.

4. Have sex.

It is very easy.

Married 21 years.

#264 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:20 pm

Anna7000- Did you see my posts to you earlier today & last night?… I have incorporated some your suggestions into the ACTION LIST(s) to defeat BO (I’ve also broken it up into smaller lists, which I’ve been posting in this thread).…
Thanks a million, again, for all the time you took last night on this project.

#265 Shane on 09.10.08 at 8:21 pm

I would draw your attention to an entry on hillbuzz.wordpress.com
“Hillary Clinton en route to Ohio–to campaign only in Democratic stronghold areas.” Is she trying to ingrate
herself with the Omama’s supporters within this Democratic party. if she is going to replace Biden.
I will not comment on that ,other than to say that a
woman like Hillary who has been treated like dirt by the DNC and the Presidential nominee could not do such an
act… If she did she would be no better than Pelosi,
Obama and all the gang…..
Americans are well respected, highly principled and
their leaders be from whatever party usually hold these
values.. For HRC to contemplate this would I feel bring
forth an outrage against her and all we respect her for..
Its not looking good and there is not any reason or excuse to betray her supporters….Lets hope it is just
a rumour…… Shane..Ireland

#266 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 8:22 pm

Here’s the Video of Biden on Clinton

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/10/heres-the-video-of-biden-on-clinton/#more-4723

GD IT.

Biden: you better just be saying this to be nice.

UGH. No switch-a-roonie!

#267 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:22 pm

I hear you Beca, but I have noticed for a while that FOX has been fairly nice to 61, makes me sick…

Like they are trying too hard to be “in the middle.”

#268 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:22 pm

I am saying it one time;

I WILL NOT VOTE for the dem’s~ HILLARY or NO Hillary!!!

yes it is too little too late!!!

#269 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:23 pm

That last list of ACTION STRATEGIES should be labeled [#3], not [#1].

#270 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 8:23 pm

LandiPUMA – No, didn’t see. Been breezing in and out, often scrolling rapidly through dozens if not hundreds of posts. But, glad whatever I did was of some help. Really, the thanks is to you. It’s so great that you keep adding to the list, refining it, and reposting it. Keeps things grounded and focused on very concrete action. Greatly appreciated!

#271 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:24 pm

And Beca, how was your day? Mine kind of dragged on, least I didn’t have a headache…. I don’t know what happened last night….heheheh

#272 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 8:24 pm

#41 sarah
http://carpetride.wordpress.com/
new video up!
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Good video, love that song…………….it has part of my name on it………… hahahahahahahaha

#273 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 8:25 pm

Cat Nip ya, bingo! This girl on fox right. The pig comment is Puma cat nip.

#274 NativeFlower on 09.10.08 at 8:26 pm

hi, i’m listening to the show
i agree with the last caller… Hillary did not look good last week… what the $@#% has this party done to her?

#275 utahpuma on 09.10.08 at 8:26 pm

#236 gogandalf – I have tried multiple times to post the Colorado info for you, but I keep getting kicked off. Obviously I have little or no standing here.

Please email me at jesse seven two seven at live dot com and I can attach the info and email back to you.

#276 deadgirlsrise on 09.10.08 at 8:27 pm

Mama I did the prowls except faxes, no fax machine and too busy today :(

#277 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:27 pm

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TexasTigress… you really have a great ACTION suggestion (hitting the news media in swing states)… I incorporated it into my action list, post #239 above (I give you credit there, as I did the first time I put it in the list the other day)…

I do think your action item should be posted often, as a separate post (with the contact addresses), so I’m glad you’re doing that.

Don’t know if you saw my post last night responding to what you asked me.
Did the contact info someone posted for Univision and Telemundo work? Are there particular people or departments in those networks that are best for contacting?

#278 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 8:27 pm

LandiPUMA, For what it’s worth re: your formatting: I think the list is unnecesarily busy, visually. Caps, bold, italics, bullets, arrows, without really being clear why some if it is one way or another. I’d pick out the main message of each bullet point and use one way of making it obvious, be it caps and/or bold and/or italics. sort of in the style of a self help or how to book.

#279 tillerylakelady on 09.10.08 at 8:28 pm

Obama will not drop Biden,for the simple reason it will make him look weak.How many times has any body heard him apologise for any thing or admit he made a mistake? Hillary would have to be crazy to help him now.Obama ship is sinking, and I don’t think she wants to go along for the ride.

#280 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 8:29 pm

#271 BillieJo

I like the music but I still don’t think he is gay because my son used his gaydar on him and not a blip.

My son thinks he is gross. So dose his friends.

He is a smart consumer.

#281 NativeFlower on 09.10.08 at 8:29 pm

you guys, i heard either on FOX or CNN a couple of days ago say that BO’s campaign advisers are telling him, he’s gotta get tough and start criticizing Palin.
I was thinking maybe his lipstick remark was like testing the waters. but the Republicans nipped that in the butt REAL QUICK!
….CERTAINLY ALOT QUICKER THAN NANCY PELOSI!!

#282 LandiPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:30 pm

Anna7000- Don’t bother looking back for what I wrote. I’ll repost them later tonight (or summarize them)… whatever’s still relevant.
I have to go out now, but I’ll be back in an hour or so.

#283 annabelle on 09.10.08 at 8:32 pm

Holy freakin’ crap! The daughter I discuss in this post just came to asked me to explain to her why I won’t support Obama. She said she always tuned me out before and now she wants to know. She still walked away mad, but I got to explain it to her in a very cogent, fair, calm way. I hope it eventually sinks in…

#284 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:32 pm

#270 erickaAZ,

Crazy day at work, and trying to read the crazy news, it is so outrageous how the media is making a BIG excuse for Obama (the pig comment).

#285 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:32 pm

#270 erickaAZ,

Crazy day at work, and trying to read the crazy news, it is so outrageous how the media is making a BIG excuse for Obama (the pig comment).

#286 nokoolaid4me on 09.10.08 at 8:32 pm

I just went over the the Hillary clinton site and I was reading some of the blogs, it is obvious that the All of the comments were made by Obomabots. They are BEGGING Senator Clinton to fully through her support behind Obuma and want her to derail Palin. It made me sad and sick to my stomache at the same time. That site has been fully taken over by Obomabots…very sad to say the least.

#287 nhforhillary on 09.10.08 at 8:32 pm

Wow! I’m an independent and can’t wait to vote now for McCain and that sensational Sarah Palin! I saw her speak and I’ve made up my mind. She will be a strong leader .

John McCain has shown his wisdom and a strong committment to women by selecting one for his presidential partner, while his opponent thinks he can be clever and win by demeaning women as “lipstick wearing pigs”. The Obama campaign has become a battleground of disgrace and is feeling the pain in the polls.

It comes as no surprise that Obama is dropping in the polls, he is now running the dirtiest campaign in history.From insulting middle class Americans that live in small towns to sexual slurrs on the campaign trail. What a disgrace to our nation, someone certainly should have vetted this Arab man that would run for our highest office.

I’m done with the Democrats and will not vote for them! They are the majority in Congress and with Pelosi at the helm, they are keeping America enslaved to foreign oil. Democratic leaders felt that they were “entitled” to put their will over the will of the voters to select it’s party’s nominee. Caucus fraud was allowed to go unpunished because they were on a corrupt course, advocating that the end justifies the means.

The Republican ticket can’t be beat! They are the true change ticket while Obama and Biden represent the status quo. Poor “status quo” Joe. A stinky “old fish” floundering around in the ocean with the beautiful barracudas.

Once Sarah Palin was formally announced as John McCains VP pick, the Obama campaign started to use the “politics of fear” and the “old politics of smear” they claim to not be a part of, in an attempt to discredit this fine woman. Now they are desperately throwing out their best smears in a desperate attempt to make the polls go up!

Why are they so clueless??? Voters are fed up with Obama’s meaningless rhetoric, he has nothing to offer the American people while the Republicans are offering REAL AMERICANS as candidates for REFORM and CHANGE, that have proven accomplishments to get the job done. I most certainly would rather vote for a hero, than a zero.

Thanks you Sarah for entering this presidential race, you have given me HOPE for AMERICA. Your integrity, strong convictions, honesty and the heart for service to this country are admirable and will win the day. If Obama thinks he can take you down, he’s wrong! It’s about time we sent someone from the middle class to Washington to shake things up and to stop the corruption.

Alaska is a large state with an 11 billion dollar budget to manage. You have balanced the budget with a surplus. If you can manage one state, you can manage the rest with simple multiplication. Alaska’s National Guard is our first defense if Russia were to wage war on our country. We have entrusted the defense of our nation to you and I’m confident that with your record we can trust you to run this country from the oval office. Barbara Walters has also said that you are certainly capable of doing the job.

You will rise above the smears and slurrs to brush them aside.I admire that you stand strong on principles and that you have the proven ability to fight corruption and are willing to take on the good ole’ boys. You are certainly a profile in courage.

Has Obama ever stood up for anything? NO. He lacks moral convictions. Your ability and accomplishments put him to shame. He has become our new “bridge to nowhere” while your qualifications and ability to bring change far outweigh his meager accomplishments.

You bring with you a wide-range of experience, from running a business, serving on the PTA, to city council woman, a two-term mayor, and Governor of the Great State of Alaska. You understand our towns and states, and the challenges that we face. You can work with the unions, bring hope to our families, because you understand how to make change happen!

Can you imagine Obama giving up his private jet and selling it on e-bay to save his state money? To take commercial flights and to drive instead, like Palin? She said NO to the bridge to nowhere, she said if we want a bridge, we’ll build it ourselves. She asked for earmarks when it was expected and then stood uagainst the abuse of earmarks when it was the right thing to do.

I’m not just going to walk, I’m going to run to the McCain campaign to help see that these stellar reformers get elected. Their partnership will be good for America. I’m thrilled!!!

I wish I could say the same thing for Senator Obama, but he just doesn’t have the experience or leadership skills to think on his feet. Accomplishments beat misleading rhetoric every time, and until Obama can show me a resume of achievements worthy of the White house, I’m not prepared to put him in the oval office.

I’ll vote Republican because it’s what’s best for the American people. And I have news for you senator Obama, America is starting to see your true colors and they get it too! I’m not a “pig” but I’ll make sure I put on my “lipstick” to kiss you good-bye in the voting booth!

#288 nokoolaid4me on 09.10.08 at 8:34 pm

typo, through, I meant throw

oops sorry

#289 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:35 pm

I loved your double post Beca, thought I was the only one who did that… Yeah, I was pissed at the defenders of 61. He is a lawyer, he knows exactly what he is saying. And he tries to alwasy leave himself that lawyer wiggle room to deny what we hear….

#290 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 8:36 pm

#280 NativeFlower wrote:

“you guys, i heard either on FOX or CNN a couple of days ago say that BO’s campaign advisers are telling him, he’s gotta get tough and start criticizing Palin.
I was thinking maybe his lipstick remark was like testing the waters. but the Republicans nipped that in the butt REAL QUICK!”

Nip it in the bud LOL! :)

http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2008-09-08_516956708473044/tv/andy/nip_it1_no_thieves.wav

http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2008-09-08_516956708473044/tv/andy/nip_it3.wav

#291 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:38 pm

#273 NativeFlower I am sure she doesn’t look good she hasn’t had anytime to just relax it’s to much on anyone plus(please don’t hate me anyone) she isn’t a young woman anymore I am sure it has totally taken it’s toll on her they need to leave her alone and let her take some much needed rest and relaxation.They are jerks and they don’t give two sh*ts about her or her health and well being.

#292 doria on 09.10.08 at 8:39 pm

NoKoolaidForMe That’s amusing about the Bots at Hillary’s site. So now they need her.

I think O’Reilly is being overly fair to BO for a reason. He starts his Obama chronicles next week. They should be very tough. They will have greater credibility because O’Reilly has been very measured toward BO.

#293 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:39 pm

276 LandiPUMA Thanks :) as far as the latin stations , the contact was fine , although I think I only got contact info for the national divisions ,and I know there are local divisions in Miami and I would imagine elsewhere . I was hoping to find local Latino stations . I Did find an excellent resource that lists news papers , tv , radio etc. for each city , and if you scroll down , you will find the ethnic section that lists various media targeted to specific ethnic groups . I am working on New Mexico (per your info ) for tomorrow . I only hope that we have several Pumas sending the e-mails out . Here is the link to Mondo – this is the Miami section , but you can check out any city and state … :)
http://www.mondotimes.com/1/world/us/9/525
Thank you soooo much for all of your advice and hard work – it is so appreciated . :)

#294 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 8:39 pm

#120 ladyhawkke – Not sure if anybody replied to this. Thanks for providing the link.
My response – with so many things happening with the campaign that the birth certificate now seems to fade in memory. Given that there are now more animals referred to in the empty rhetoric from “Cupcake” with every passing day, people now have more reasons to look the other way. And as much as how people flocked to the chosen one they are sure enough cutting and running. My take is we will defer the certificate until “Mr more of the same” actually ends up talking about real change that I haven’t understood thus far.

#295 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 8:40 pm

Bozo had his stump speech prepared. He knew what he was saying and why and we all know. His smirk at the end of the comment said it all. Palin pissed him off with her speech at the convention and her popularity and poll surge REALLY pissed him off. He had to get a dig back at her. His ego could not handle not doing it. We all knew his arrogant ego would eventually be the end of him.

#296 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 8:40 pm

- I don’t care if Janice Joplin comes back from the dead to run as his VP

I AM OLD ENOUGH TO APPRECIATE THAT ONE!
ROCK ON!!!!

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For those of you too young to appreciate this post here is a taste of Janice………..go Janice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8npK1q6LY9Q&feature=related

#297 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.10.08 at 8:40 pm

#241~ dont you know that’s her husband~

#298 nokoolaid4me on 09.10.08 at 8:41 pm

nh4hillary, wonderfully stated. BRAVO.!!!

#299 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:41 pm

288 erickaAZ,
Ha! I sometimes had to do the double post because for some reason I get a lot errors and it kicks me out, anyways, the ironic thing is that BHO has been kicking women out on his 143 days political career, the lady from Chicago, Hillary, but I think he will not do it on this one because people are getting tire of his low blows, they are getting old…

#300 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:43 pm

Yes, the Fowlers are quite the pair…. SC should vote them both out….

#301 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 8:43 pm

Dennis Miller said Dems should have picked Hillary. Duh!

#302 tillerylakelady on 09.10.08 at 8:44 pm

I agree billiejo,
Theres not a snowballs chance in he** that even with Hillary on the ticket that I will vote for Obama.

#303 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:44 pm

#295 BillieJo don’t know her music but didn’t she die of drug overdose or something in like the 60′s.

#304 antifish on 09.10.08 at 8:44 pm

Just received from Ricki Leiberman!

All,

Please spread the word to everyone you know in the Bay State!!!

Voters in Massachusetts have a rare opportunity to knock off John Kerry, one of the most audacious, cynical supporters of Barack Obama, against the interests and votes of his constituents.

Next Tuesday, September 16, in the Democratic primary, MA voters have a chance to vote for Ed O’Reilly who is courageous enough to take on Kerry. Please let everyone you know in Massachusetts that this is a way to send a direct message to Kerry and the DNC that they:

1) made a grievous error in shoving aside Hillary Clinton, the electable Democrat for President, and 2) that we will find ways, such as voting for O’Reilly, to express our disgust that they have robbed us of our opportunity to take back the White House with the best Democratic candidate of our generation, Hillary Clinton.

So, flick off, Kerry.

GO GO GO!!!
Ricki

• Debate: Kerry finally agreed to debate O’Reilly for all of 20 minutes. You can watch it at: http://wbztv.com/video/?id=66544@wbz.dayport.com
• Belmont Citizen-Herald Endorses Ed O’Reilly: Excerpts from the endorsement: “….voters should also be incensed by the arrogance of power shown by the incumbent” and “….what difference does seniority make when you’re flat out wrong?”
• Website: http://www.edoreilly.com/

#305 Gogandalf on 09.10.08 at 8:45 pm

#274 Utah Puma thanks for trying – you have mail.

#306 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:46 pm

But Beca, he is soooo thick in the head. He thinks his ‘stuff’ doesn’t stink… And I get booted off of here a bunch too! I hit send, and it does nothing. I hit it again, nothing, I hit refresh, and suddenly I have a gazillion posts saying the same thing, and then I turn red as the blood flushes my cheeks…Whoops…lol

#307 nhforhillary on 09.10.08 at 8:47 pm

how do you get to blog on mccains website

how do you signup? What are the steps? Please help me get over there

#308 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:48 pm

And to all the lovely PUMAs here, even though we don’t really exist, WE WILL SHOW OB HOW MUCH WE DON’T EXIST COME NOV 4th…..

#309 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 8:48 pm

226 chrissieD From what I’ve read, he isn’t even AA. He is 5/8 white, 1/4 Arabian and 1/8 Kenyan. So he’s really riding on the coattails of true AA’s and getting away with it just because he has darker skin.
But, that shouldn’t really matter, anymore than gender should matter.

#310 bythelake on 09.10.08 at 8:49 pm

306..I think if you register first then you can blog.

#311 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:49 pm

302 slyt2 _ Are You Freakin Kidding me ??????? !!!
” Take it , take another little piece of my heart now baby ”

Or ” Windshield wipers slap in time – I was holdin Bobby’s hand in mine , and we sang every song that driver knew . ”
Or ” lord , won’t you buy me a new Nominee …” lol

#312 Amarissa on 09.10.08 at 8:49 pm

Don’t you think that if Biden said today that Hillary could have been a better VP is because they are considering it??? Maybe Biden will resign and make up some excuse so that Hillary steps in… ummmm

#313 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:51 pm

Hell, Amarissa, I don’t think Hill would want to go anywhere near that sinking ship…. I can feel her smiling as he finally gets his due….

#314 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:52 pm

Ok texasTigress I believe I know that one
Take it , take another little piece of my heart now baby.

#315 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 8:52 pm

#310 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:49 pm

Janis Joplin rules!! I’m only 30 yrs old but I have all her music etc.

lmao. I love that. “Oh lord, won’t you buy me a new nominee.” Awesome.

#316 antifish on 09.10.08 at 8:53 pm

Biden: Hillary is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVy2yh28eig

#317 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:53 pm

Alright I’m gonna have to go listen to this song Oh lord, won’t you buy me a new nominee that everyone keeps saying .

#318 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 8:53 pm

#87 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 6:58 pm

hillary isnt stupid..she sure the hell knows taking a VP slot spells doom for her presidential aspirations
—————-
Before you go jumping to conclusions about Hillary’s intelligence and thinking being a VP would hurt her future chances….think of this for a minute………

VP for 8 years, then President 8 more years. Time for her and Bill to clean out the DNC, push out Obie, clean up the economy and get Stem cell research, Universal Health Care though along with PEACE, prosperity, and environmental clean up.

I take for granted that Hillary is a lot smarter than I am on what is good for her career and we will have to see if this is just a lot of smoke being blown up someone’s buns or not.

#319 BarbNOBO on 09.10.08 at 8:53 pm

#238 Headclunker ….Where did O’Reilly get his Psychology degree? Unconsciously is probably true to some degree showing how BO really feels about Palin…he does have issues with women doesn’t he?? And about Biden stepping down and Hillary stepping into the VP slot…It would be political suicide for the Dems like it was for McGovern in 1972 when Eagleton was forced to step down because of his history of mental illness. This created a sure landslide defeat for McGovern!

#320 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 8:54 pm

305 erickaAZ,

You are hilarious, I am assuming based on your blog name that you are in Arizona, I went to the Grand Cayon last year, love it!

#321 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:54 pm

Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to loose
Nothing, I mean nothing honey if it ain’t free, no no
Yeah feeling good was easy Lord when he sang the blues
You know feeling good was good enough for me
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee. :)

#322 MamaPuma on 09.10.08 at 8:55 pm

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT

Before everyone settles in, make sure that you have done your 2 prowls today.

We are the ones that no one was expecting and we are the ones that are turning this race around.

But only if you do your work.

Mama

#323 tillerylakelady on 09.10.08 at 8:55 pm

We can only hope, Hillary doesn’t want to go down with the Captain!!

#324 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 8:55 pm

#316 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:53 pm

LOL. Actually the song is called “Mercedes Benz” and it says “oh lord, won’t you buy me a mercedes benz…..” but TexasTigress just revised the lyrics a bit to fit our situation.

#325 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:56 pm

Sly – it’s really “lord won’t you buy me a mercedes benz” I changed it :)

#326 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 8:57 pm

And in case I am whisked away by space aliens, I want to share my love for all within our puma-house….

You are beautiful folks, and bless all of you (and me too : )

#327 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:57 pm

323 Sisterluck I am 38 and Janice ROCKS !!! :)

#328 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 8:57 pm

#308 Alice1943 I agree fully with you but its obama and his campaign who spoke abt the whole historic nature of his campaign for that very reason that he claims he is aa. and i think he has taken advantage of what is a very painful history in the aa community. I mean I was reading some of the civil rights stories and how people died for what they believed in like emmet till and in the aa community it was very sad how people were deprived of rights but i was also reading that the first person who started the civil rights moment properly was a woman who also said “no we won’t” her name was rosa parks so i think b.o. has done a lot of damage to womens rights and movements started by woman for something that is not genuine. and i also feel strongly that by playing the race card which in my opinion obama had no right to do since he had all the advantages growing up of being half white he has made it very difficult for a real african american, who has background in the communities, who speaks well and does not have all the dubious associations, and understands the issues all americans face to run, and believe me their are tons more african americans like this out there who are much more qualified than obama

#329 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 8:58 pm

O’reilly – Pinhead section
Matt Damon and I think Betty – again typical leftist blabber about Palin and about animals and all that.

PUMA’s – Is it time to ditch Matt Damon movies?

#330 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.10.08 at 8:59 pm

IMHO- knew exactly what he was saying, it was completely scripted- watch it on youtube, he pauses- waiting for the crowd to chuckle- and then goes on. You can just see him rehearsing it w/ Axelrod and the rest before going on. I can just see the speech-writers re-hashing the lines. These were most likely the same part of the “creative” staff that came up w/ the fake presidential seal and the Grecian columns.
They know exactly what they are doing.
Hopefully the have some life jackets because their ship is SINKING!!

#331 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:59 pm

#324 TexasTigress you brat I was looking all over you tube for some dang song like that… now I feel stupid and I was just coming back to say that song isn;t anywhere to be found.

#332 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:00 pm

LotusBoy _ I would , but I’m F’ing Matt Damon :)

#333 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:00 pm

Oh Lotus, he still looks nice even if he is rock-dumb…

It goes back to the “crackers in bed.”… : D

#334 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:01 pm

((((330 slyt2 ))))))

#335 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 9:01 pm

318 BarbNOBO,,

OMG, I agree, that will never ever happened, it will really showed how inconsistence the Democrats are lately. It will demostrate that they cannot deal with difficult situations, that they constantly looking for an escape rather than a solution. That in top of showing that they picked Biden for foreing policy expertise, now they need Hillary to win? That will be the biggest joke a month before election. They are talking to Bill to ask for strategies since he advised Hillary in so many aspects.

#336 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 9:01 pm

#326 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:57 pm

Wow. A PUMA, a Joplin fan, and a Texan? You RULE!

#337 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 9:02 pm

#332 erickaAZ – I almost wanted to say “Gals – I know he is cute but please let him go”

#338 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:02 pm

You go girl (TexasTigress), we are thinking the same here….

#339 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 9:02 pm

#326 TexasTigress and Sisterluck didn’t you two listen to Bon Jovi, Poison, Ratt, Slayer, White Snake, you know long hair bands growing up.

#340 Gogandalf on 09.10.08 at 9:03 pm

Beca4Hillary – did you go to the North or South Rim – Grand Canyon – entrance to both are soooo different.

#341 Middle age female on 09.10.08 at 9:03 pm

185 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 7:32 pm Switching V.P. pick, has that ever happened?
******
Yes, Senator Eagleton who was the VP for McGovern, when it was discovered he had had mental health problems in the past.

#342 BarbNOBO on 09.10.08 at 9:04 pm

#334 Beca4Hillary …I agree…and MO would never allow Hillary on the ticket!! lol

#343 bythelake on 09.10.08 at 9:04 pm

Wouldn’t surprise me if Biden didn’t have a “reason” to resign… AA maybe, rehab? Who knows.

#344 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:04 pm

335 Sisterluck _ I do , but I just use small letters (rule) ’cause I’m humble :) LOL !

#345 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 9:04 pm

Hannity and Colmes is getting good right off the bat, turn it on if you can.

#346 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 9:05 pm

#331 TexasTigress – and go ahead and roar too!

#347 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:05 pm

8 slyt2 _I saw all of them except Slayer in concert , but Janice RULES ! :)

#348 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 9:06 pm

339 Gogandalf,

No, because it was a helicopter ride, beautiful. I was told that I was going to have lunch with Indians, but when we landed they were not there. I was told that they own most of the land, but that they are not there all the time.

#349 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 9:06 pm

339 Gogandalf,

No, because it was a helicopter ride, beautiful. I was told that I was going to have lunch with Indians, but when we landed they were not there. I was told that they own most of the land, but that they are not there all the time.

#350 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 9:06 pm

#338 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 9:02 pm

Are you kidding? Of course, I loved all those. I just respect the old school also. Speaking of, I met Poison and got on stage with them in Woodlands, TX a few years ago. They rock in concert! Don’t laugh at me, lol. No, I don’t have huge hair or terrible clothes.

#351 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:07 pm

Always watch when lawyers speak, they love to leave room to wiggle out… “If you examine my words…”

It is over in my heart and mind, McCain and Palin get my vote… end of game…

#352 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 9:07 pm

#294 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 8:40 pm

Bozo had his stump speech prepared. He knew what he was saying and why and we all know. His smirk at the end of the comment said it all. Palin pissed him off with her speech at the convention and her popularity and poll surge REALLY pissed him off. He had to get a dig back at her. His ego could not handle not doing it. We all knew his arrogant ego would eventually be the end of him.
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I totally agree with you on this. :roll:

#353 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 9:08 pm

#346 Cool and I’m sure she does rock, you know who I really like is Stevie Nicks all these years and she still looks good and still rocks. Sorry got off topic , please turn on hannity and colmes I’m telling ya it’s good.

#354 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:08 pm

LotusBoy- Please tell me you know the whole Jimmy Kimmel /Sara ” I’m F’ng Matt damon ” video I was referring to . :)

#355 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 9:08 pm

327 chrissieD I agree 100%. BO is a disgrace to the AA community and to all those who are more qualified and deserving in the AA community to be POTUS.

#356 BarbNOBO on 09.10.08 at 9:08 pm

#342 bythelake….Maybe also because he made a fool of himself today by asking the man in a wheelchair to stand up!!

#357 john on 09.10.08 at 9:09 pm

Trooper admits he Tasered Palin nephew
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#358 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 9:09 pm

I mean I also questioned why obama was not offended by biden’s “clean” remark. I mean am I wrong to assume that most african americans who have grown up in america and may have faced discrimination at some point in their lives would have been offended by this not chosen biden as their vp…also I questioned whether obama isn’t the new “media made” or “acceptable” african american since I don’t know if u guys were aware of the whole loreal beyonce scandal where they photoshopped her picture until she appeared white and its known in the media that darker skinned models have less of a chance than their fairer counterparts, I was reading an article on aol where they said that lighter skinned models in the aa comunity have a better chance in the media than darker skinned aas because they are more acceptable to the mainstream media that is in place so ironically I was wondering if obamas being half white didn’t save him from the medias scrutiny seeing as lets say reverend wright or jesse jackson had to run they are both considered to be radicals by the media yet obama gets a pass when he advocated some of the same things they did so I was wondering if obama only gets a pass because he is the “media made” or “acceptable” to the media or as biden would put it with his highly offensive remark “clean” african american. just a thought :-)

#359 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 9:09 pm

341 BarbNOBO,

That is right, if Obama picks Hillary MO will finish all the lemons from her tree….sucking those lemons Michelle….

#360 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:10 pm

And for those who are loving my AZ country, the canyon is so very beautiful as is so much of our grand state…. (well, those places other than my kitchen, I don’t feel like cleaning it right now…_)

#361 BarbNOBO on 09.10.08 at 9:10 pm

#294 Sisterluck…A BO supporter today told me that she was so proud of BO because he writes his own speeches…he knew exactly what he was saying…remember he is very good at manipulating!!!

#362 ipotter on 09.10.08 at 9:11 pm

#147 freddiebrown

Yeah, you are probably correct. Though, still fantasizing that the lawsuit will knock bo off his pedestal so the elected one can take her rightful place. :)

#363 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:11 pm

359 erickaAZ When I was in the Marine Corps I was stationed in Yuma – crazy hot , but the rest of the state was worth it :)

#364 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 9:12 pm

#353 TexasTigress – No not the entire one. Is it still on YouTube?

#365 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 9:13 pm

#301 tillerylakelady on 09.10.08 at 8:44 pm

I agree billiejo,
Theres not a snowballs chance in he** that even with Hillary on the ticket that I will vote for Obama.
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I can’t go that far, things would really have to change drastically for me to go there. He would have to kiss her ass big time, and give her a lot more than just replacement VP status.
We aren’t there yet, so I don’t want to think of what it would take for me to consider the circumstances of which I would go for it.
Him as the cup-asshole-cake, no way. Him as the pretend leader and Hillary making the wise choices and full power on Universal Health Care, I could do it -Maybe.

#366 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:14 pm

306 nhforhillary It’s sort of a secret – just kidding! I think I had to click on “post a comment”. First you click on Blog at the top of page; and it will bring up 1 or 2 threads like this one. Click on one of them that says comments. It will open one up like this. Click on Post a Comment – I think that is when you can enter your info. (Then uh, where’s NewOrleans?) Try that one and come back if you can’t get on. NewOrleans is a pro at it!

#367 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 9:14 pm

Middleagefemale…Thanks, but couldn’t we kick BO out of the top stop for suffering the same affliction!!!!!

JANIS JOPLIN ROCKS
Jimi Hendrix
The Doors
The rolling Stones
CCR
AC/DC
The Eagles
The allman brothers
Three dog night
Elton John( one of my favorites)
Queen (amazing)
David Bowie
Led Zepplin
Bob Seger ( another favorite )
I adore 60s and 70s rock, best music ever…
I am 38 and all 3 of my chidren adore that era…

And don’t forget Bob Dylan, the list could go on and on..

#368 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 9:15 pm

#302 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 8:44 pm

#295 BillieJo don’t know her music but didn’t she die of drug overdose or something in like the 60’s.
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She took a lot of drugs (The time of Woodstock era) but actually died of an alcohol overdose. Southern Comfort I believe. She, Jimmy Hendrix and Jim Morrison all died near the same time frame. What a loss.

#369 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:15 pm

362 TexasTigress Ike heading possibly to Sargent, TX………maybe

#370 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:15 pm

Sweet you are TexasTigress. I once was driving across country in a giant snow storm. I drove thru the middle of Texas to escape it, and other than all of the highway patrol, I enjoyed my drive. And that is after all of the “don’t ever want to drive thru Texas I heard over the years.” I loved my drive thru your state and at every stop, everyone was so friendly to me… : )

#371 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 9:16 pm

Did anyone see this today? The NY governor is accusing McCain/Palin of racism now b/c they laughed that bozo said his community organizing was better than being a small town mayor. The Dems have lost their minds.

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) _ New York Gov. David Paterson said Tuesday that there were racial overtones in the Republican presidential ticket’s criticism of Democrat Barack Obama’s work as a community organizer.

“There are overtones of potential racial coding in the campaign,” Paterson said at an event in New York City.

Paterson said that while Republican candidates John McCain and Sarah Palin haven’t directly talked about race, it’s strongly implied in comments Alaska Gov. Palin and others have made about Obama. McCain’s camp said Paterson’s claim is false.

“The Republican party is too smart to call Barack Obama ‘black’ in a sense that it would be a negative,” Paterson said. “But you can take something about his life, which I noticed they did at the Republican convention. A ‘community organizer,’ they kept saying it, they kept laughing, like what does this mean?

#372 ipotter on 09.10.08 at 9:16 pm

Is it goanderson keeping track of the poll workers? Sorry it took so long, just got the call. I’m officially a clerk.

ipotter – Indiana, clerk at polls

#373 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:16 pm

LotusBoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG3S5WzHig

#374 chrissieD on 09.10.08 at 9:17 pm

I mean thats why I have so much respect for condi rice when she goes to face some of the usas toughest opponents like hamas, russia etc and has to negotiate she can’t say to them listen to me because I don’t look like other secretaries of defense that the usa sent b4 like obama did when he said he didn’t look like other presidents. the russians would laugh at her instead she goes in there despite all the mismanagement by bush and gives it the best she has without ever having to resort to excuses, I have never once heard condi say or make a statement that people in other countries have to listen to her because she doesn’t look like all the other secretaries of state sent b4

#375 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:17 pm

My sister is just below Houston, I am praying for everyone in Texas…

#376 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:17 pm

Sorry, Good evening to everyone!!! :lol:

#377 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:18 pm

Gypsy – where is that ?

#378 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 9:19 pm

#310 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 8:49 pm

302 slyt2 _ Are You Freakin Kidding me ??????? !!!
” Take it , take another little piece of my heart now baby ”

Or ” Windshield wipers slap in time – I was holdin Bobby’s hand in mine , and we sang every song that driver knew . ”
Or ” lord , won’t you buy me a new Nominee …” lol
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:lol: Nice voice Texas….she might ask you about very popular groups of this era…do you know them? I like alternative rock groups now because of my son’s having his PC speakers up so loud and asking him years ago….Crystal Meth who? :lol:

#379 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:21 pm

#377 BillieJo – LOL !!!!!!

#380 murphy on 09.10.08 at 9:21 pm

erikaAZ — aw shucks!

you’re sweet.

but not a Sweetie, of course.

#381 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:21 pm

My daughter just mapped it out for me and Sargent is about 85 miles south on the coast from Houston.

#382 LeeinUSA on 09.10.08 at 9:22 pm

I have also seen this rumor about Biden stepping down & NO WAY would I vote the Dem ticket with BO at the top or anywhere on there for that matter!

Let him step down completey & give the top spot to Hillary! He is still a loser & not qualified to pick up dog turds!

#383 queen81 on 09.10.08 at 9:22 pm

Murphy, you have mail :-)

#384 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:23 pm

380 1gypsy4mc I am safe if it doesn’t turn north . YOU stay safe !!!!!!!

#385 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:24 pm

I take no offense, provided the speaked of course… ; )

#386 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 9:24 pm

#372 TexasTigress – Thanks to you I just saw the video (of course with blips). I had a peek a while back on this.

#387 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:25 pm

Whoops, I thought I could spell…. Should have been “speaker.”

#388 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 9:25 pm

#315 ((((((((((( antifish )))))))))

Biden: Hillary is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVy2yh28eig
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Was this yesterday or today? Is any of this stuff about him talking to the Big Dog about this real?

#389 murphy on 09.10.08 at 9:25 pm

Ipotter — as Gingy would say, Hooray! (with arms upraised in “praise the lord” manner)

#390 PumaPal on 09.10.08 at 9:25 pm

#317 Just for fun – not suggesting that this would happen

Okay, I am trying to think this through. Biden gets “sick”, Hillary is asked to be VP and says “yes”, they win, Obama is president for 8 years. Then Hillary runs for president. It is 8 years later and she has to run on Obama’s record. Is this a good strategy for her? (This is just a strategic analysis …. I am not saying that this would occur. I am just trying to understand how this would benefit her.) Would she be happy being a VP under Obama? I know how I would feel but I have no idea how she would feel.

(I am off for a meeting and won’t be able to check in for a few hours.)

#391 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:26 pm

383 TexasTigressI don’t know where exactly, but more between Houston and Sargent – so you could get some if it also hits a part of Louisiana.

#392 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:27 pm

385 LotusBoy _ well , crap , now my original statement isn’t nearly as funny as it would have been if you would have known !!! :) oh well , I cracked myself up ;) !!!

#393 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 9:28 pm

Fox news just asked some Dem governor if Hillary would replace Biden, he laughed and said absolutely NO.

Just caught the tail end…

#394 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:28 pm

1gypsy4mc We’ll just have to batten down the hatches and bring the horses inside ! :)

#395 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 9:29 pm

#374 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:17 pm

I’m in Houston. Ike is predicted to hit between us and Corpus right now but could change. They won’t know for sure, or as sure as they can, until Friday morning. All the areas to our south have had mostly mandatory evacuations. Our southeast Houston area had some voluntary ones that were located around Galveston Bay since there is no seawall there and it is prone to flood easily. Houston is going to get the dirty side of the storm also since we’re on the north side of it. Supposedly will be Cat 3 when it hits. Ike sucks :( I pray for all of us Gulf coast Texans also.

#396 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 9:30 pm

#389 PumaPal – With people now sick of the chosen one he will be out the door in 4 so 8 is unimagineable

#397 Beca4Hillary on 09.10.08 at 9:31 pm

387 BillieJo

You know, the more I hear that statement (Biden: Hillary is better), they more I convinced myself that they are just trying to bring women back to their base, it has nothing to do with bringing Hillary back! They think we are dogs, you paddle them they are happy!

#398 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:31 pm

394 Sisterluck I am straight up 59 on the evacuation route – If you have to clear out , give me a holler :)

#399 Grizzly on 09.10.08 at 9:32 pm

Just dug out a couple of Obama’s prior statements about hillary.

Claws coming out and “feeling down”:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/is-obama-using.html

Throwing the china at Obama
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obama-hillary-t.html

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

#400 cate on 09.10.08 at 9:32 pm

Prowl completed to Carol Fowler.

Thank you Murphy for all you do.

Cate

#401 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:32 pm

I think Biden is meeting with Presidnet Clinton to ask him to campaign vigorously for Osexist

#402 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 9:33 pm

#391 TexasTigress – No it was effective, seriously since I only had vague idea of that.

#403 alabamian18 on 09.10.08 at 9:33 pm

Right billiejo! I’ve noticed that Hillary’s name has been used quite a bit since the polls for BO went south!

No way! No how! NObama! NObiden!

#404 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:34 pm

Thanks – think I’ll be OK but it’s going into Cat 4!!

#405 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 9:34 pm

Wishing all Texans luck in regards to the hurricane..
I will be thinking of you.

#406 jenniforhillary on 09.10.08 at 9:34 pm

I have been too busy working 15-6 hours a day..I think about PUMA all the time and I have to do BOTH my prowls tomorrow morning early.

HILLARY should steer THE FUCK AWAY from the ZEREOS. AND, the fact that Bill is stumping for him makes me THISSSSSS close to getting EVERY PENNY of the money we gave the Clintons when they were campaigning and telling us how FUCKING DANGEROUS, UNVETTED, and INEXEPERIENCED this asshole is.

I am furious…actually beyond furious. I am LIVID. And sad. And I cannot sleep. If BO wins, it is ALL OVER. MARK my words….

HILLARY and BILL stop. Just stop. STOP NOW.

#407 NewOrleansPuma on 09.10.08 at 9:34 pm

Women will elect the next President of the United States. I have decided to state mindlessly on other blogs the following: I am following the lead of black voters. I will vote for Sarah Palin for the same reasons black voters voted overwhelmingly for Obama. As they state it is time to have a black presidident, I think it is time to have a woman in the White House. As they state it is a matter of pride, so I, agree, it is, for women, a matter of pride.
Now just how long do you think I would get by saying that, without attack? Obama solicits the absolute dark side of the human soul and is the ultimate seducer because he uses language that should be reserved to elicit the light. This, among other reasons, is why he is dangerous and must be defeated. I will vote to have a woman in the White House. I have concluded I need no other reason than has been made acceptable regarding the opposition.

#408 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:34 pm

371 ipotter

Congratulations!!
I’d trust you with my life.

#409 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:35 pm

1gypsy4mc on -Thanks – think I’ll be OK but it’s going into Cat 4!!
____________________________
CRAP .

#410 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:35 pm

Whoa – Hannity just read the Level 1 of BO’s sex training from grade K ??????

#411 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 9:36 pm

#397 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:31 pm

Cool, thanks! I’m near downtown so I hope my area will be ok but who knows. Let’s hope it doesn’t get to a Cat 4.

#412 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:36 pm

jenniforhillary

HILLARY and BILL … DON’T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE!

#413 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:38 pm

404 jenniforhillary – I agree – he’s never been vetted – that’s the one issue that he doesn’t want brought up…We need to do some prowls?? Why can we know everything about P (except her deodorant) ?

#414 slyt2 on 09.10.08 at 9:38 pm

#377 BillieJo thank you, yea what she said Texas :)

#415 cjv on 09.10.08 at 9:38 pm

#370 Sisterluck

I briefly heard about this today on the radio and had intended to check into it further. I am from the the general area of Albany NY.

For those who don’t know about Gov Paterson, he was the LT Governor under Spitzer where Spitzer had to step down after getting caught for a sex scandal. Paterson had to fill the empty slot. His honeymoon is now over and he is now getting some tough criticism for his how he is currently doing. To give him the benefit of doubt he did walk into a fiscal crisis that is riddling the state right now and does dare to make tough choices.

Yet he seems to be using the same exact tactics that Uhboma has been using. And it’s making me angry. And yes, he is black and now using the race card.

I’m ready to write a letter but considering asking for at least a northeast prowl to be generated.

#416 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:39 pm

404 (((((jenniforhillary )))) ;) I wish you would just learn to say how you feel … lol

#417 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:39 pm

Sisterluck, I will include you and yours in my prayers… And to think of how non-religious I have been most of my life. But still I do pray in these days of ours…. Be careful and be safe…. : )

#418 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 9:39 pm

#405 Neworleanspuma….AMEN TO THAT!

#419 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:41 pm

Sly –
‘yea what she said Texas ‘ LOL !!!!!!!!

#420 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 9:41 pm

Apparently McCain/ Palin had a record crowd in Virginia today.

I read it was 23,000. That’s not bad for a regular rally. Not even a big pre-planned/ concert type deal.

#421 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 9:42 pm

“McCain’s events before Palin joined the ticket were considered large at 2,300 people.”

Today it was 23,000.

#422 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:43 pm

419 kat in your hat – WOW – where were they today? I don’t remember!

#423 TerryDo on 09.10.08 at 9:44 pm

81 stoney42 on 09.10.08 at 6:55 pm I will not vote for BO, even with Hillary on the ticket.
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Why would Hillary even consider going on Obama’s ticket after all this time.

If she needs to save his as* then she should be running for the presidency and he can be her inexperienced v.p.

#424 Cassie on 09.10.08 at 9:44 pm

TexasTigress, Sisterluck and anyone I might have missed, stay safe!!! My parents are from Houston and I don’t know if they said anything about evacuating. They don’t speak much English. Dad keeps telling me hurricane not going into Houston. I told him not to be a hero. Leave when they tell you to leave.

#425 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 9:45 pm

#391 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:27 pm 385 LotusBoy _ well , crap , now my original statement isn’t nearly as funny as it would have been if you would have known !!! oh well , I cracked myself up !!!
________________________________________

I cracked up!

#426 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:46 pm

OMG – an BO person just called Hannity a “fool”! Not good!!!!!

#427 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 9:46 pm

jenniforhillary, the F word is my absolute favorite, at times I think I may have been a truck driver in a former life. It has many different meanings, but the one used to express anger is by far my favorite.

#428 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:46 pm

422 Cassie -stay on him to be SAFE !

#429 jody in florida on 09.10.08 at 9:47 pm

i want to see hannity interview bo. :rofl:

#430 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:47 pm

kat
was that the gathering in alaska? If so, Dr Lynette Long was there too. She addressed the crowd.

#431 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:47 pm

423 Caracal Carrie – unfortunately , I think ALL of my humor is designed to only make YOU crack up !

#432 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 9:48 pm

Here, click and scroll down to see topics.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

#433 GOSUEF4HIL on 09.10.08 at 9:48 pm

#405 NewOrleansPuma on 09.10.08 at 9:34 pm
Women will elect the next President of the United States. I have decided to state mindlessly on other blogs the following: I am following the lead of black voters. I will vote for Sarah Palin for the same reasons black voters voted overwhelmingly for Obama. As they state it is time to have a black presidident, I think it is time to have a woman in the White House. As they state it is a matter of pride, so I, agree, it is, for women, a matter of pride.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Great points- and here is what I don’t get= I am told by Dems- don’t support Palin just because she is a woman- you should support the man who is going to support you as a woman. Huh??? WTF???

You mean the misogynist who stood mutely by while Hillary was being bashed, the one who calls professional women “Sweetie” , the one who said “your nice enough Hillary”, the one who mentioned Hillary gets moody when she is feeling down? THat one??

The one who has flip-flopped on more social issues in the past 60 days- I have whiplash from watching his acrobats. Is that the man I should vote for b/c I am a woman?

GET OVER IT!

#434 scarlet on 09.10.08 at 9:48 pm

While Barack Obama didn’t vote often, when he did, he sure made his stance on social issues obvious. Here is the complete text of Illinois General Assembly SB0099 which mandates comprehensive sex education in public schools. That’s not the problematic part, the problematic part is in line #14 which shows that this bill was amended from 6th through 12th grade to include K through 12th grade.

Here’s the direct link: Illinois General Assembly Bill 0099

http://chickencrats.com/2…n-for-kindergartners.aspx

#435 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 9:48 pm

MIchelle47

That is offensive! My husband is a truck driver! He only says the F word if it is every OTHER word in the sentence!

ROFL j/k

#436 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 9:49 pm

Dances, no Virginia, I think.

There WAS a “Hillary supporter” who spoke today….that wasn’t Lynette Long was it??????

#437 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:49 pm

Who was asking for puma cash in a pdf format?
I ahve it wor anyone who is having problems with the word doc.
email myname atgeemail

#438 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:50 pm

422 Cassie – And , we may sound like Peggy Hill when we are speaking Spanish , but I’m sure he will understand us :) so if he needs to get up here tell him to pack up and go !

#439 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 9:50 pm

Good for you Cassie, keep on your parents, better safe than the other…. One of my best friends on earth was in New Orleans and was going to ride out Katrina, but luckily her daughter stayed on her butt until she left, and just in time, she would have been killed otherwise…

#440 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:51 pm

434 kat in your hat
could be. I heard it on NRP on my drive home today… didnt catch the entire piece.

#441 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 9:51 pm

Tex

Well ya for me!

Busted flat in Baton Rouge….

#442 prplvette85 on 09.10.08 at 9:51 pm

ipotter- I am in NWI, I must have really pissed them off during the primary, cuz they have not called me….. :(

#443 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 9:52 pm

#422 Cassie on 09.10.08 at 9:44 pm

He should be ok unless he lives around the Clear Lake, Kemah, bay area since it might flood there. We won’t have mandatory evacuations unless they predict a direct hit on Galveston/Houston. I just think we’ll get quite a bit of high winds and rain.

#444 Lara08 on 09.10.08 at 9:53 pm

#170

The “political strategy” might not be a VP switch, but for Biden to play good cop to BO’s bad cop. It seems that Biden and HC are friends (or friendly) so he possibly is being sent out to do what BO refuses to do- praise HC to win back Hillary supporters. Let’s see how it plays out; if Biden keeps saying nice things about HC. BO knows somebody in the campaign has to do this to possibly win back the Clinton base, but he sure isn’t going to do it because he is such an egomaniacal narcissist. He could never admit that he needs her. -Lara08

#445 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:53 pm

422 Cassie – they are evacuating Brazoria County now – don’t know exactly where it is, but Houston is in the “cone” I think. It can still turn somewhat, but not sure which way.

#446 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 9:53 pm

#259 Anna7000

You can look at the census report and get an idea of how many voters there are in various demagraphics. In 2004 there were 28 million people 18-24 yrs of age and 58% registered and 47% voted (Table 8). So about 13 million never registered and 15 million never voted. So, if BO got all 15 million to vote and they voted at a 2:1 for him, he would gain 5 million votes. More realistically, he may register 3 million and gain 1 million more votes. Even more realistically, he will get bubcus because the fad will have passed by Nov. 4

67.3 million women and 58.5 million men voted in 2004. Asian voters seem to have the lowest registration percentage at 52% of 9.3 million and only 2.8 million ended up voting. Whites had the highest registration and voting percentages and still 70 million ended up not voting.

126 million people voted in 2004 and 90 million did not.

The other reference in my post # 199 indicates that about 20 million people of voting age are not actually eligible, as of 2006.

#447 john on 09.10.08 at 9:56 pm

Obama Brags President Clinton to hit campaign trail for him
“There’s nobody smarter in politics,” Obama said on CBS’ “Late Show with David Letterman,” scheduled to air Wednesday night. “And he is going to be campaigning for us over the next eight weeks, which I’m thrilled by.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#448 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 9:56 pm

Prowled! :)

#449 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 9:56 pm

A friend of mine said McCain and Palin were around Kansas City and swamped out the nearby town where her parents lived.

#450 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:57 pm

429 TexasTigress – I always laught at you!! Say, who sent us the video of the RNC convention – the one with all the balloons—every time I think of it I crack up!!

#451 ABW4HRC on 09.10.08 at 9:58 pm

Good Evening Pumas,
I just wanted to peeop in quickly to catch up. I saw Cohen comparing Obama to Jesus and Palin to Pilate. I just finished writing him and told him I will be voting straight Republican ticket this year. I wrote to him when he compared Senator Clinton to Glen Close’s character in Fatal Attraction. I am sick of him and he better be glad I don’t live in his district here in Tennessee.

#452 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 9:58 pm

Caracal carrie

I worked as a dispatcher with truck drivers for over 15 years….I got the lingo down. They are the best at slinging the F word, I am proud of my foul mouthed education! That is the only way you get things done in that line of work and you do learn fast.

#453 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 9:58 pm

1gypsy4mc that video was soooo funny – no idea who posted it .

#454 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 9:58 pm

430 kat in your hat on
Here, click and scroll down to see topics.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
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I bookmarked the site! I love the rows of lipstick lips, and teh Oink poster, and teh Xerox poster for plagiarism!!! great! Thanks!

#455 Lara08 on 09.10.08 at 9:59 pm

#445

The only way the Dem Party will win me back is if HC is out campaigning for herself (as the presidential candidate).

#456 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 9:59 pm

bobram If you lurking, I want to be the first to say good evening!!

#457 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 10:00 pm

LOL Michelle

Im a former sailor and I am sure I have a mouth like one!

#458 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 10:00 pm

370 Sisterluck “overtones of racial coding”? cWhat is WRONG with that guy?

#459 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 10:01 pm

Doesn’t Palin’s son deploy to Iraq tomorrow ? God speed to him .

#460 madazzhel on 09.10.08 at 10:01 pm

#434 kat in your hat

It was Lynette Long. She has a blog.

Here is the speech:

http://WWW.LYNETTELONG.COM/my_weblog/2008/09/lynettes-commen.html

madazhel

#461 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:03 pm

#444 Headclunker – and when you break the Asian demographics by their region (Far East, South Asia, Near East, Middle East etc) there are still differences in how they are integrated politically.
A lot of South Asians historically vote blindly for the DEM ticket purely for immigration or any 1 specific issue (like foreign policy to Pakistan or India or Indonesia). Not sure if there are enough South Asian PUMA’s here but if there are they better do something to change that mentality. These voters are unaware that their voting for DEMS(or Repubs) is taken for granted and kind of like back home. So if they listen up I think PUMA can help deliver this against BO now and for HRC in 2012. Just a fellow South Asian 2 cents!

#462 john on 09.10.08 at 10:03 pm

I think Bill Clinton needs to hear from us.

#463 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 10:04 pm

445 john “There’s nobody smarter in politics,” Obama said on CBS’ — Ummm, that being the case, umm maybe he could take your place, Barack???

#464 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 10:04 pm

Caracal carrie

Wow a sailor and a truck driver, I hope your neighbors live at least a block away…HAHAHA

#465 Grizzly on 09.10.08 at 10:04 pm

john on 09.10.08 at 9:56 pm Obama Brags President Clinton to hit campaign trail for him
“There’s nobody smarter in politics,” Obama said on CBS’ “Late Show with David Letterman,” scheduled to air Wednesday night. “And he is going to be campaigning for us over the next eight weeks, which I’m thrilled by.

****************************************

So Obama is now thrilled by the prospect of having a man his campaign branded as a racist, a man whose legacy the Obama camp went to great pains to besmirch, a man to whom Obama has showed little to no respect, and a man married to a woman he destroyed with his bag of dirty tricks and while making little effort to help her with her campaign debt, campaign for him?

Sounds like Obie Uhh Kobamie is getting just a bit desperate.

#466 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:06 pm

Yeah, both Palin’s and Biden’s kids are being deployed tomorrow… Prayers for those and all the others going and already there…

#467 Gogandalf on 09.10.08 at 10:06 pm

New Orleans Puma – like it – fire with fire – good for the goose is good for the gander

#468 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 10:06 pm

#413 cjv on 09.10.08 at 9:38 pm

I know that Gov Paterson endorsed Hillary during the primary. He is now probably getting pressured by the bozo people to stand up and say something, anything. You know how that works.

I agree, that he deserves a PUMA email. Palin & company were not being racist at all and everyone knows it. They were laughing and showing how idiotic his argument about his “experience” to be President was based on community organizing and running a 2 yr campaign for Pres. I find it mind boggling how bozo keeps comparing himself to a VP candidate. Notice how he completely skips over Palin as governor of AK and makes fun of her being a small town mayor. Bozo can’t stop himself from offending people from small town America. HUGE mistake.

#469 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 10:07 pm

BO is getting tired….but he’ll do anything to keep from going home. Bet they divorce if he doesn’t get elected.

#470 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:08 pm

Politics, sholotics, I lost all respect for X-Prez Bill long ago… “Define is….” He is scum and will always be scum.

#471 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 10:08 pm

“Hillary Clinton en route to Ohio — to campaign only in Democratic stronghold areas”

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/hillary-clinton-en-route-to-ohio-to-campaign-only-in-democratic-stronghold-areas/

HA!

#472 TexasTigress on 09.10.08 at 10:08 pm

Night dear Pumas . Sept. 11 tomorrow – sleep well .

#473 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 10:08 pm

How about a Prowl to BO…. Suggesting that, since he cares so much about america, he could do the right thing and quit.

#474 murphy on 09.10.08 at 10:09 pm

dances #400 — Osexist. I like that.

#475 Cassie on 09.10.08 at 10:09 pm

I don’t know why I can’t seem to post. (Tried 3 times.)Maybe typing too slow. Everyone, thank you very much. I’ll call them again tomorrow. Thanks for the info. I am very touched!!! Mean that.

#476 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 10:10 pm

Michelle

LOL Naaahhhh but all they hear is the hubby screamin like a lil girl when I chase him through the house LOL

#477 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:10 pm

#463 Grizzly – the difference between me and bill (other than skin)

I would have shown BO the finger!
Perhaps Bill did and BO pleaded on bended knees!
Disgusting but true. Now this is change we can believe in.

#478 californiagal on 09.10.08 at 10:10 pm

Repost from downstairs:
300 californiagal on 09.10.08 at 9:18 pm

Here is my post on wordpress earlier today where I read the article by Carol Fowler about Sarah Palin:

registered Independent; usually vote Democratic.
voted Hillary; will vote McCain/Palin.

This woman is a disgrace to her party and her gender and to her political views. The empty suit she is supporting is a sexist and a lying/flip-flopper. What does he have in his favor????

I believe in abortion and I don’t care what Palin thinks; it is her right to have as many children as she wants. She will not reverse Roe vs. Wade.

I hope S.C. voters help defeat this Chair’s candidate.

Go Palin: Lipstick, she Has LIPSTICK…..

#479 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:10 pm

And Hill is starting to worry me. She needs to come down with a “virus” and get off of the campain trail. Whatever they have promised or threatened her with is not worth it. After all, they have proven to be nothing but thugs anyway, how can she continue to trust the scum bags?

#480 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:11 pm

#471 Alice1943 – That is change I can really believe in

#481 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:12 pm

Cassie, your parents have much to be proud of. : )

#482 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 10:12 pm

Isn’t that a nice infomercial O’ Reilly did for BO?

#483 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:12 pm

#470 TexasTigress – Good night

#484 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 10:13 pm

Night Tex

Call ya tomorrow

#485 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:14 pm

nite nite Texas!!!!!

#486 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:14 pm

#476 californiagal – and I am told she is also the wife of the ex-dem caught on flight saying “the hurricane is hitting NO to demonstrate God is in Dems side”.
Two make a company but I think they and BO must to sent to ANWR forever to go and hug Caribous

#487 Caracal Carrie on 09.10.08 at 10:15 pm

Think Ill follow my sisters lead and crash out.

Night yall! Hoping to get a lot done on the page tomorrow!

Sweet dreams

#488 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 10:16 pm

#470 TexasTigress

Goodnight TX! You’ll be dreaming about “Oh lord, won’t you buy me a new nominee…..”

#489 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:16 pm

nite nite Carrie!!!

#490 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:18 pm

“Oh lord, won’t you buy me a new nominee,
My friends all vote Palin, I mus make ammends…..”

#491 michelle47 on 09.10.08 at 10:19 pm

Good night Pumas…Sleep well and dream of the reality that BO is going to get his come November 4th……
A BIG FAT BOOT BACK TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO!

#492 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 10:19 pm

470 TexasTigress – nite – am going myself also

#493 lilibet on 09.10.08 at 10:19 pm

I was just checking my Email in order to do the prowels.I also received the following.

POLITICALLY DRUNK ON POWER

The Return Of Obama’s Chicago-Style Destruction-Based Politics

Posted: 10 Sep 2008 12:15 AM CDT
The sudden polling surge, representing as much as a 17 point bump, for John McCain has exposed the shady underbelly of the Obama Campaign. Senator Obama did not rise to power as a change candidate; he has never won an election in which his opponent has not suffered being personally destroyed and forced from the race; and it seems in the past two weeks that Obama is returning to his Chicago Political Machine roots.”

This is a long article. I wish there were a link, but I imagine everyone knows how to find POLITICALLY DRUNK ON POWER if they are interested.

#494 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:19 pm

nite nite Michelle47!!!

#495 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 10:20 pm

468 erickaAZ
Politics, sholotics, I lost all respect for X-Prez Bill long ago… “Define is….” He is scum and will always be scum.
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I didn’t vote for Presidnet Clinton either time (so sue me!), but, there’s no denying he has a brilliant mind.
And, he was smart enough to know the word “is” has a thousand definitions. He also toyed with them because they were relentless in their pursuit of him and their attempts to bring him down. As I recall, several of his hypocritical accusers fell instead.

Shah Ma’at.
(The Shah is Dead. Checkmate.)

#496 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:20 pm

nite nite gypsy!!!

#497 kat in your hat on 09.10.08 at 10:21 pm

Here, check out this pic from Uppity Woman’s blog.

http://uppitywoman08.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/obamasouthcarolinasupporters.jpg

(carol and don fowler)

#498 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:21 pm

my point is what he was as a husband…..

#499 1gypsy4mc on 09.10.08 at 10:22 pm

nite to all – come up with a good prowl for us in the a.m.! Prayers to all!

#500 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 10:22 pm

496 erickaAZ
Oh yeah… total cad.

#501 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:23 pm

If Hillary stays close to Obama,the 18,000,000 pieces of glass will fall on top of her. She would never recover.

Doesn’t Hillary and Bill care about the disappointment of the voters?

#502 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:23 pm

1gypsy, sleep well and may your dreams be vivid and enjoyable… ; )

#503 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:25 pm

thank you Dances, so many seem to gloss over what he did to Hill and Chel… I still get mad every time I see him on TV, that damn smile… Burns me up….

#504 turndownobama on 09.10.08 at 10:26 pm

#389 PumaPal on 09.10.08 at 9:25 pm
Okay, I am trying to think this through. Biden gets “sick”, Hillary is asked to be VP and says “yes”, they win, Obama is president for 8 years. Then Hillary runs for president. It is 8 years later and she has to run on Obama’s record.
===============

Never work. HIllary is 60. 68 would probabaly be too old for her to run; Bill may need more heart surgery in 2020. Also can you imagine Obama and the DNC actually letting her get the nomination?

#505 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:27 pm

caribbeanpuma, Bill cares about nothing but Bill, that has never changed over all of these years…

#506 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 10:27 pm

#457 TexasTigress wrote:

“Doesn’t Palin’s son deploy to Iraq tomorrow ? God speed to him”

Ya, man that is hectic to think about. I have thought about this particular ” what if my kid” sense I saw 1776 and heard this song as a kid. Man, we just got to win.

In this play the boy tells of a friend who was shot in a battle. If the boys didn’t come home the moms would go look for them. They were fighting only a few miles from there home. Get ready to cry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZyqY35NKX4

#507 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 10:27 pm

WTF. Geraldine on Greta now. Has she drank the kool-aid?

#508 cjv on 09.10.08 at 10:28 pm

#466 Sisterluck

Let him continue to campaign against a VP – people will begin to wonder what the heck he’s running for. He’s proving more and more how he is clearly incapable and way over his head. Hey thanks DNC for being as stupid!

I couldn’t wait for a prowl and sent him a tactful nastiogram via his email mail through his website. But hope to write another if necessary. Sen Clinton won NYS with 57% of the vote almost every congressional district and you could count on your hand the districts that she lost and they were by a slim margin. What did the SD’s do? Crossed over. I still, every day, walk around in disbelief of this whole thing.

#509 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:29 pm

#502 turndownobama and #503 erickaAZ
More reasons for NOBAMA forever

#510 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 10:30 pm

Here’s the sum up of CNN’s spin of the lipstick fiasco.
“We have to stop talking about lipstick, we talked about it all yesterday and now today and we have to stop. Obama has to stay on track and just talk about the issues, not get into talking about Palin or lipstick. He has to stop thinking of Palin. Other guys with him says, yea, we have to stop talking about Palin, we can’t keep talking about lipstick…bla, bla, bla, lipstick,…………..bla, Palin………… Obama has to stay on the issues and his surrogates need to take on Palin.

And I ask, who are his ‘surrogates”? Hillary, Biden, Bill……………..they aren’t going to talk lipstick on flippin’ pigs.

OBAMA HAS NO ONE THAT WILL TALK THE DIRTY LITTLE WORDS HIS OBOTS NEED TO HEAR….TO KEEP DONATING TO HIS CAMPAIGN.

#511 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:31 pm

erikaAZ

Then we can put aside Hillary for President. I think she blew it. And I feel very sad.
She had a wonderful opportunity but…

#512 ipotter on 09.10.08 at 10:32 pm

#440 prplvette85

Hope you get your call soon prplvette85. But if they don’t call you, politely call them again, and again, and again. Worked for me anyway. After a week and a half of calling every day, finally found out who was in charge of scheduling poll workers and got that person’s phone number, swore my vote to be true blue, etc. and was in (doesn’t mean I don’t own my vote though :) )

#513 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:32 pm

What is so embarrassing, is that at the start, I actually thought Obama was something special… Now, he turns my stomach every time I see or hear of him….

#514 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:32 pm

#506 cjv – Again a dem game to keep doing what they are doing for long. Thank god, along comes a Sarah that provides a benchmark of a different kind and all the skeletons of sexism is not more a home (dem) thing

#515 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 10:33 pm

#84 mccaindemo
Just getting here and trying to catch up. What the hell does “white guys” have to do with anything? I am a “white guy” and have been supporting Hillary all along and know that Carpathia meant it as a sexist dig.
I suggest the white male bashing gets thrown under the bus.
Oh and no I would not vote for “O” if Hillary is veep.

#516 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 10:34 pm

Obama is in a deep sh!t hole and he has no one left to pull him out. He has crapped on everyone he needs and now the poor little boy that got a free pass on his lack of experience and corruption has no one but……………………………………….drum roll ………………
……………………………………………………………..
…………………….MO to defend him!

Hahahaha…………….Bo only has Mo!

#517 Sunshinelvr on 09.10.08 at 10:35 pm

Rosa Park was a catalyst for civil rights. We should continue the tradition of women leading and step up to DRIVE the bus. I agree with the above poster, if blacks can vote over-whelmingly for *61 –women can vote in GREAT numbers for Sarah Palin and any other Democratic deserving of a vote!

prowls done..emails to fowler and news media..Can’t do faxes. prousd to do what I can though..

#518 SunnyPA on 09.10.08 at 10:36 pm

#442 Lara08

Hello All. I came onto the blog to get a summary of the “lipstick” fallout.

I see everyone is speculating on Biden’s defense of Hillary. I agree totally with Lara. It’s nothing more than a shitty attempt to win Hillary supporters.

Disenfranchised Hillary supporters have been enamoured(sp) by the Repubs protectiveness of Palin. So what do the dems do …. create a scenario where they do the same thing of Hillary.

Talk about shameless pandering.

Have a good night, everyone.

#519 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 10:37 pm

#499 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:23 pm

If Hillary stays close to Obama,the 18,000,000 pieces of glass will fall on top of her. She would never recover.

Doesn’t Hillary and Bill care about the disappointment of the voters?
——————
Oh baaaaaash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18 million supporters of Hillary Clinton have more depth than that.

#520 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:37 pm

Sunshine, I will drive the bus if you’d like… BEEP, BEEP Obama, gonna drive right over your lame ass self….

#521 cjv on 09.10.08 at 10:37 pm

#512 LotusBoy

Yes, and again, wasn’t it supposed to be the Dems that ‘were’ (I say in past tense) supposed to be the advocates for all races, for equality and so on and now they have shown not to be true to any values? As I don’t consider elistism really a value.

#522 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:38 pm

Yes BillieJo,he is in deep sh!t,and anyone close to him is going to stink.

#523 Caribbean Puma on 09.10.08 at 10:38 pm

I think its despicable for Obama and Biden to be putting this out there about Hillary was the better pick. I feel its a trick to try and get some of Hillary supporters back and to see what the feelings will be like if she does take the offer.

I will not vote for that ticket, and Hillary will really disappoint me if she does accept this now, all this is being done for one reason not to stop MaCain but as we all know to stop a new bright political star Palin.

This is one time I will go against Hillary if she lets Obama con her once again into this kind of nasty politics, and this may really mean political suicide for her I know a lot of people will not swallow this move, so she better think before she accepts anything

#524 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 10:39 pm

#178 storytellers
\Agreed. Was going to say that but, storytellers beat me to the punch.
Remember “o” and his goons HATE Hillary.

#525 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 10:40 pm

#502 turndownobama on 09.10.08 at 10:26 pm

#389 PumaPal on 09.10.08 at 9:25 pm
Okay, I am trying to think this through. Biden gets “sick”, Hillary is asked to be VP and says “yes”, they win, Obama is president for 8 years. Then Hillary runs for president. It is 8 years later and she has to run on Obama’s record.
===============

Never work. HIllary is 60. 68 would probabaly be too old for her to run; Bill may need more heart surgery in 2020. Also can you imagine Obama and the DNC actually letting her get the nomination?
————–
Since when does Hillary have to stand on Obamas record?
Some of you PUMAs really underestimate Hillary.
Hillary is not just a good female ‘someone’ that was running for president.

#526 murphy on 09.10.08 at 10:40 pm

SunnyPA!!! how the heck are ya??

#527 cjv on 09.10.08 at 10:40 pm

Speaking of Uhbama, isn’t he supposed to be on Lettermen tonight? BTY Letterman (before I got disguted and turned the TV off) was his sexist self last night and made a joke about having a special kind of dream of Sarah Palin.

#528 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 10:41 pm

Hannity and Colmes: Hannity on the lipstick slur said Sarah should not let that remark bother her he said she should come out and say ” this little pig is going to Washington.” LOL

#529 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:41 pm

#511 erickaAZ – I shared this sentiment with Asian4Hillary time and again that the minute (both of us) he came on the scene, we knew he was a big sham.
As long as you come good before Nov4th you are in good company.
If not, you would have been one of the stomped Bots (in victory or in defeat).
I generally spray “Holy Water” of welcome back and I consider you to have been completed detoxified from the BHOT VIRUS

#530 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 10:42 pm

503 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:27 pm

caribbeanpuma, Bill cares about nothing but Bill, that has never changed over all of these years…
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You must be talking about someone besides Bill Clinton here…………………..or you are really off base.

#531 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:43 pm

It will be her record backing Obama.

#532 Caribbean Puma on 09.10.08 at 10:43 pm

I wonder what Donna B is saying about Biden revelation today, she was the lady that was going to leave the party if Obama did not get the nomination and Hillary did.

Donna must not be too happy today

#533 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:44 pm

#525 cjv – Frankly Letterman is a Pr***. He is like Olbermann’s uncle prying at night.
I watch most late night stuff every night.
Jay Leno is perhaps one exception.

#534 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 10:44 pm

#515 Sunshinelvr on 09.10.08 at 10:35 pm

“Rosa Park was a catalyst for civil rights. We should continue the tradition of women leading and step up to DRIVE the bus.”

PUMA, “DRIVE the bus”= grate bumper sticker

#517 BillieJo wrrote

” #499 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:23 pm

If Hillary stays close to Obama,the 18,000,000 pieces of glass will fall on top of her. She would never recover.”

Biting and scratching!!

Hell, I am scared of you guys. LOL. You Rock!

#535 queen81 on 09.10.08 at 10:46 pm

Hey Sunny PA!!

#536 Sunshinelvr on 09.10.08 at 10:46 pm

even if they took biden off and put Hillary on..I cannot support empty suit. Ever!..
..
Yes ErikaAz..You can ceertainly drive the bus..We can ALL drive them..Actually, they are quite interesting to drive when there are NO kids on them!

#537 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:46 pm

#530 Caribbean Puma – For a change, can the party get Donna B out rather than the other way. And if they come out losing the elections the party itself will be tossed out

#538 BillieJo on 09.10.08 at 10:46 pm

#513 snowtiger

No fret snow…some weird conversation is going on right now with some folks…I need to step away before I blow a fuse.
You are a good male… ((((snowtiger))))

#539 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:47 pm

BillieJo, Bill Clinton cheated on Hill so damn many times, she can forgive him all she wants, but I will never do the same. Just like all of those preachers, “forgive me, I have sinned….”

God may forgive, but I do not have to… : l

#540 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:47 pm

We love Hillary. We see her going into a path of self destruction . We are worried.

#541 sandipuma on 09.10.08 at 10:47 pm

http://www.slate.com/

#542 cjv on 09.10.08 at 10:48 pm

I’m getting tired, and I need to go get rest but wish to make an off the topic request. Well, kind of on topic as it is a bit about remembering many many special heroes. Tomorrow as it has been for the past six years is always a tough day for me and I am sure it is for many others. I always pay tribute and give a silent prayer at the time of the WTC attack. And I wish to give my thoughts and prayers to any or all of you that have been affected in any way or manner by that event.
((((((((((((to all PUMAS and American Heroes))))))))))

#543 goofsmom on 09.10.08 at 10:50 pm

#513 Snowtiger

All the puma guys are good guys.

#544 Blue Blue Gal on 09.10.08 at 10:50 pm

nite all
pumas in wake of ike – be extra safe
and come up north if you need to
give a shout out
i’m off 35w
will be lurking in am

#545 Sunshinelvr on 09.10.08 at 10:51 pm

537 erickaAZ
Yes he did.. but that is NOT our business, it is their’s and Chelsea’s . Why would you want to get inside their union and impose YOUR feelings and beliefs on them? Bill is a scamp and scoundrel, but , obviously, Hillary loves him in spite of it. THAT is what devoted couples do, they take what they have and WORK it!

#546 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:51 pm

This has happened to me before, discussing B Clinton, I am not sorry. He may have been a halfway good Prez, but as a Husband, he was a piece of crap. I was hoping after “office” Hill would divorce his lousy ass. Her choice, not mine, and I have never held that against her. But he will always be a #@@%%^@@%%^%$ to me… (the man, not the office)

#547 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:52 pm

nite nite Blue Blue Gal…!!!!

#548 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 10:53 pm

When the party gets tossed out,I don’t want Hillary to be in it.

#549 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:54 pm

#540 cjv – You are very special to remember a truely heroic day tomorrow. I shall join in. To all those that stood up, ran to help out, cleaned up and cared for and helped heal all the psychological wounds that afflicted USA and the world that day – I salute you.

#550 murphy on 09.10.08 at 10:55 pm

Carribean #533 — Yeah, I keep waiting for Donna to follow through on her promise.

#551 mzebest on 09.10.08 at 10:55 pm

#282 annabelle

Mazel Tov. I was truly happy to see your post. I think this is a sign that she may be hearing things from friends that will (over time) bring her around. I would let her approach you again… and slowly contribute as she becomes increasingly receptive.

#552 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 10:56 pm

#512 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 10:32 pm

Agreed. The deal is, in my opinion, Hillary was the so called favorite in the primary. The DNC corrupt pieces of crap, we all know who they are, along with money guys like Soros, set up bozo to be the next Dem pres candidate after his speech at the 2004 convention. This bs was staged from the get go b/c the jealous losers like Pelosi, Brazilla, Reid, etc did not want Hillary as their nominee. They already had the caucus fraud and FL and MI fiasco planned. They played it like a movie script they wrote. America let the Hillary, sexist bashing (excluding some women and PUMAs) slide b/c they thought this was some new, great change candidate and Hillary was a Clinton who thought she was “entitled” plus the Dems sat back and let it go since it benefited their little puppet. Meanwhile, bozo has his own motives to become Pres that we all know about but he would never confess. America did not catch on to this bs fraud until too late in the primary; where you see how Hillary began to dominate in the end but bought off superdelegates dragged bozo over the supposed delegate count. Then we have the convention roll call fiasco bs.

What they did NOT guess was that McCain would resort to his true maverick ways and select a female, reformer candidate that no one really knows about that compliments his maverick image, is relatable to everyday Americans, and has the charisma that he lacks. This is the reason the Dems have flipped out and gone over the edge and offended their own base along with Independents. Their sexist bs has been exposed for real now. They have lost the election over it. McCain kicked their asses despite all their planning and they are beyond pissed! They can’t stop their idiotic rants and attacks. They’ve offended women, small town Americans, and Independents. They also didn’t count on the effect of PUMAs! Add that to bozo’s no experience and scary associations = Democrat defeat in the year they should have a landslide victory.

A bozo defeat will ensure a shake up in the corrupt Democratic party and we will take it back to the people where it belongs. I’m just hoping that Hillary can run and will run in 2012 and that is why she is putting on this charade of supporting bozo. Just my 2 cents.

#553 mzebest on 09.10.08 at 10:56 pm

And thank you annabelle for your supportive comment last night. :-D

#554 Sunshinelvr on 09.10.08 at 10:57 pm

night all.. tc and I will remember tomorrow is a special day for many, many people. May you find some com fort in your memories.

And erikaAz–don’t get upset over what I said about Bill & Hill..If you ARE not in THEIR relationship, it seems hard to understand why a good woman stays with a scamp –OR –why a GOOD man would stay with a wife who does that kind of stuff either. It justs takes the TWO of them to come to some kind of understanding and the rest of us to just say “God Bless–But for the grace of God there I go, too. “

#555 goofsmom on 09.10.08 at 10:57 pm

I’m watching some coverage on Ike, take care all you Texas pumas. This looks like it could be one mean, nasty storm…

#556 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 10:57 pm

Hillary can relax, 4 years is a long way away. Any thing can happen. Obama is not going to use her effectively because it is just not with in him.

All this stuff I seen looks like just a rumor.

Hillary can make in in 2012. I do agree that she needs to step it up. Next time she will be just another politician. Not that she ever played the gender card. However it will not be available to her in 2012. It will be a fair fight.

That will be good for every one.

#557 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:58 pm

I am so very proud of Hill, she has not sipped of the koolaid… She does her job, and doesn’t step on Sarah.
She is upright… : D

#558 sandipuma on 09.10.08 at 10:58 pm

To me Bill Clinton was one of the best Presidents we ever had and it’s so sad we couldn’t have had him for 16 years instead of 8 as this country would be in great shape right now.

#559 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 10:59 pm

536 BillieJo,#541 goofsmom,
This isn’t about me. But thanks anyway. :)
We have to be extra careful right now. “o” is using sexism and yes racism as tools. We must not allow knee jerk reactions to trip us up.
I can’t remeber the exact phrase but it goes somehting like this.
“Throughout history there have been those who, having achieved an inevitable victory have sat down to rest, and in doing so lost.”
I would hate to see PUMA start alienating a segment of the public. We have been portrayed as “bitter women” from the start. Don’t feed that image.
Now that the public at large is starting to see through Carpathia, we have an unprecedented opportunity to show what really happened during the primaries.
His illusion is cracking, now is the time for the truth to come to light.

#560 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 10:59 pm

Sunshine, don’t worry, I love you! rest well and nite nite…

#561 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:00 pm

556, 557, sandipuma, snowtiger, I couldn’t agree more!
Sigh.

#562 CTKEY on 09.10.08 at 11:01 pm

#540….cjv…Me too !! I shall join you in remembering tomorrow. I had the opportunity to drove by the World Trade Center site a couple of weeks ago. Was hard to see it. I pray for the families who lost their loved ones and for those who contributed and helped in the aftermath continuing to this day.

#563 Headclunker on 09.10.08 at 11:01 pm

#513 Snowtiger – don’t let ‘em push you around. You keep reminding us that there are so many good guys around and that they are more improtant than the jerks.

#564 SunnyPA on 09.10.08 at 11:01 pm

Didn’t mean to leave so abruptly

I took sinus med and I’m really drowsy. Hi Queen. Hi Murphy.

Happy anniversary Murphy. I stopped by last night to let you know what’s going on with me. And, to congratulate you on getting the blog back on track.

Well, gotta go … eyelids getting really haevy.

#565 Gogandalf on 09.10.08 at 11:02 pm

WELL SAID SNOWTIGER and so true —

#566 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 11:02 pm

(((((((((((((((((Hmmmmmmmmmm))))))))))))))))))))

You couldn’t get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.

You couldn’t become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.

You couldn’t get a job as a t eacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.

You couldn’t join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.

You couldn’t get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.

BUT….

‘From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That’s how many days the Senate was actually in session and working. After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World …. 143 days.

We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days , that’s all it is – a start.

AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn’t accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America? Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol!

#567 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:02 pm

Repost, #53 -
You can email Mr. Ed Schultz about the polls, Palin, Hillary & Roe v wade at:
http://www.bigeddieradio.com/emailEd/index.asp

You can contact Randi Rhodes about the sexist attacks she made on Hillary Clinton all year long (& you may also BLOG) here:

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/

#568 goofsmom on 09.10.08 at 11:03 pm

#557 Snowtiger

Hear, Hear, very well said.

I agree, as they try to attack Palin more and more they are also opening the dialog to question “O” on the same subjects.

#569 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:03 pm

561 Headclunker Thanks :)
Hey no one is going to push me around. I’ll just call in my PUMA sisters. :)
(my sister can beat up your sister) :)

#570 sandipuma on 09.10.08 at 11:03 pm

We are in very bad times and it will be a long time before the fighting stops if ever. The world is in shambles and so many lives are being lost ,Just like the young couple from Canada with 2 small children bothe were in the Armed Forces and bothe killed the same day. It’s all to sad.

#571 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:04 pm

And for all the Pumas, whether or not we agree or disagree on this, that, or the other, I do want you all to know that I really do love all of you. This is our house and our family, and we are of one heart… : )

Claws In, MEOW

#572 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 11:05 pm

Good night to all.
I’m disappointed with this charade.The Clinton’s should step aside and let Bozo sink deeper and deeper in his own sh!t hole.
LOL,He worked for it
He deserve it.

Love you all Pumas.

#573 SARTOM on 09.10.08 at 11:06 pm

Dennis Miller on the OReilly show tonight in commenting on the Nobama interviews, said that Hillary should have been the candidate. He then made a very funky comment re: *61 that even Oreilly would not touch.

Fox later replayed a Biden speech that id’d him as saying that Hillary should have been the VP. That she would have made a good President.

Made me wonder if Biden will step down??

#574 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:06 pm

nite nite caribbeanpuma, sleep well and love you too!

#575 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 11:07 pm

#550 Sisterluck – Well said. I admit.

#576 LotusBoy on 09.10.08 at 11:07 pm

Good night all! and my prayers all day tomorrow!

#577 goofsmom on 09.10.08 at 11:08 pm

#564 Pookie

Right on! Good analogies. Just makes me wonder where all common sense has gone.

#578 Cassie on 09.10.08 at 11:08 pm

Tomorrow is 9/11 and I too will be praying for the victims and their family. There will be a few extra boxes of tissue in my house.

The only thing about tomorrow is that Nobama is going to be there with his smug face acting like he really cares. I’m going to puke! It makes me sick!!!!!!

#579 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 11:09 pm

571 Sartom On Hannity tonight he said he had put a political amber alert out on Biden because he had seemed to have disappeared LOL

#580 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:09 pm

nite nite Lotusboy, sleep well!!!

#581 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:09 pm

LATEST RASMUSSEN ELECTORAL MAP

The gap is getting very very tight:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update

PS Does anyone know what happens if neither candidate wins enough electoral votes? Does it go to Congress and/or does the current VP decide? What’s the protocol?

#582 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:10 pm

nite carribean,
I think we really should take this opportunity to remind every one that “O’s sexist attacks are not “mistakes” or “out of context”.
I believe people will start listening more now.
Old adage:
Be careful of who you step on climbing upwards. You are going to meet them on the way down.
Time for “O” camp to meet us again. :)

#583 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:10 pm

George Stephanopoulos (don’t care for the guy but anyway) talks about the Swing voters here. Check out the stats on Women Catholic voters veering off for McCain:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5765443

White women shifted support from Obama to McCain after the Convention:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5765514

White Women and Movability
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/09/white-women-and.html

great post here, an excerpt:
“What I find interesting is that the media is all over Palin regarding her Christian faith , which amounts to religious bigotry in my opinion. While ignoring Obama’s very dubious connections to, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Pfleger, Khalidi and others, including Dr. al-Mansour,. Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour (born Donald Warden) whose 1995 book claimed that the U.S. government was planning the genocide of black Americans. Dr. al-Mansour also has been a harsh critic of Israel and has served as a major advisor to Saudi Royal family members seeking to improve and extend their influence in the United States.”

#584 greenfun on 09.10.08 at 11:10 pm

Thought I would share an email I just received.

If you want to put energy into something, help Cindy Sheehan beat Nancy Pelosi.

http://www.CindyforCongress.org

#585 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:10 pm

Oh and thanks all for the kind words.

#586 caribbeanpuma on 09.10.08 at 11:11 pm

Murphy
Happy Anniversary!

#587 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:11 pm

Cassie, you are so right. 61 is so fake it is … loss for words…

#588 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:12 pm

# 564 – Pookie – That post is fabulous! I’m stealing it if you don’t mind! I hope Murphy sees it and finds a way to use it. My hat’s off to you, and, thanks again!

#589 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:12 pm

# 564 – Pookie – That post is fabulous! I’m stealing it if you don’t mind! I hope Murphy sees it and finds a way to use it. My hat’s off to you, and, thanks again!

#590 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 11:12 pm

579 Anna7000
Sorry. I don’t know the answer to your question.

#591 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:13 pm

listen to snowtiger, she is so very wise…. : )

#592 murphy on 09.10.08 at 11:13 pm

sunshinelvr #552

Scamp!

ha! havent heard that one in a while.

I like that word!

#593 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:13 pm

Dances – Damn! I swear, you were one of a handful of folks I thought for sure would pop back a reliable answer! I think I’ll have to escalate things:

TTTRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIISSSSHHHHHHHHHH
where are you??????????????

#594 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 11:14 pm

hmmm This is so healthy.
I am proud! One day some young lady in the distant future will read all this and see how we hammered it all out.

Hay future girl!

#595 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:14 pm

Each elector casts one vote for President and one vote for Vice President. In order to be elected, a candidate must have a majority (at least 270) of the electoral votes cast for that office. Should no candidate for President win a majority of the electoral votes, the choice is referred to the House of Representatives.[5] Should no candidate for Vice President possess a majority of the electoral votes, the choice is given to the Senate.[6]

#596 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 11:15 pm

Anna7000: A family member sent that to me I can’t take the credit , but please do use it.

#597 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:15 pm

593 for Anna
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College

#598 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:16 pm

589 erickaAZ
Menopausal too, or so I have been told,
Rofl.

#599 goofsmom on 09.10.08 at 11:16 pm

#574 LotusBoy

Night, night – I always enjoy reading your posts. Sleep well, tomorrow our feelings will unite with the world in rememberence.

#576 Cassie

My home will have extra boxes of tissues also.

#600 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:16 pm

Just got an e-mail from an SD from KY in my mailbox. Incredibly sweet. Said she was innundated with e-mails from Hillary supporters, that she takes her e-mail very seriously and that she cast her vote for Clinton amidst enormous pressure to do otherwise. I was very touched and just wanted to share….

#601 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:17 pm

So, if there are not enough EV, then it goes back to the super delegates!

#602 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 11:17 pm

564 Pookie
Would you mind if I made a PUMA PAC flyer out of your post? I’ve already started… please say “yes”. ;)

#603 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:17 pm

Oh snowtiger, thankyou for your smile and I want you to know I am wearing it… : )

#604 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:18 pm

599 hillary2008
Yup. How scary is that?

#605 turndownobama on 09.10.08 at 11:18 pm

Bill and Hillary are both wonderful people. Bill is a wonderful husband: totally supportive of Hillary and letting her stand on her own feet and following her lead. He is crazy about her and totally devoted.

We should all be so lucky!

#606 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 11:19 pm

oops… just saw Anna7000′s comment.
Anna, are you going to make a flyer of Pookie’s comment? (#564)

#607 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:19 pm

601 erickaAZ
:) :) :)

#608 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:20 pm

snowtiger – thanks. how wierd that they split up the wording as if there could possibly be a way that one post (potus or vp) could win enough electoral votes but the other couldn’t. i mean, it’s a single pair you cast your vote for, so the ticket either wins enough electoral votes or it doesn’t. wierd.

dances – yessssssssssss! pookie’s post is such great material for a flyer!

#609 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:20 pm

Did anyone catch BO on O’Reilly when he said that he thought about going into the military but the Vietnam War was over so what was the point. What a pandering liar. Let us all say a prayer for Govenor Palin’s son who goes into harm’s way tomorrow, and to all our men and women in the Military. May God be with them all. Peace

#610 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:20 pm

someone please grab me and hold me back!

#611 murphy on 09.10.08 at 11:21 pm

ok, erikaAZ wins the Nicest Puma of the Day award.

:-)

#612 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:21 pm

dances – oy, we’re typing at the same time. here’s the deal, let me know what you think:

i can organize the text and play around with it,
but,
i have no, zero, zip, zilch computer abilities (my own skills and my old broken down computer) to do anything visually fancy.

want me to work on the text and lay out and then send it to you so you can create something artistic?

#613 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:21 pm

Grabs Ericka

#614 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 11:21 pm

billy jo.. so this is the sneaky lowdown trick they are going to use now to attack sarah..“We have to stop talking about lipstick, we talked about it all yesterday and now today and we have to stop.”
replace “lipstick” with other sexist terms

#615 Caribbean Puma on 09.10.08 at 11:22 pm

Does Obama make a speech at ground zero tomorrow, I sure as hell hope not, I dont think I can take listening to him and his hypocrisy

#616 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:22 pm

Eicka screams: “Snowtiger!”

#617 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.10.08 at 11:23 pm

Example of biased media…of course, consider the source. This is a poll on aol There’s no positive way to vote here. If you say yes, you’re agreeing that she’s just a distraction, if you say no, you’re saying she’s not helpful.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
09/09/2008Huffington Post
“Does Palin serve as a helpful distraction for the McCain campaign?”

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/10/hot-seat-palin-distraction/

#618 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:23 pm

thank you Murphy and thank you Snowtiger… I needed that!

#619 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 11:24 pm

the main stream media is determined to put that lying fraud obama in the whitehouse..
i blame the media for this travesty

#620 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:25 pm

and thank you Anna7000, I didn’t think I screamed as loud as I must have….

#621 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 11:25 pm

#607 hillary2008 wrote:
“Did anyone catch BO on O’Reilly when he said that he thought about going into the military but the Vietnam War was over so what was the point. What a pandering liar. Let us all say a prayer for Govenor Palin’s son who goes into harm’s way tomorrow, and to all our men and women in the Military. May God be with them all. Peace”

I was told if my son registered for the draft he wold be eligible for federal student loans. Is that true? Is that why Obama registered??

Any one?

#622 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:25 pm

Sept 9 2008 – INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY
Barack Obama — “Election ’08: Does Barack Obama owe his meteoric rise to an Israeli-hating adviser to a Saudi billionaire?”
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=305508174916939

Sept 10 2008 – A ‘Macaca’ Moment for Obama?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305938635299185

#623 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 11:26 pm

#600 DWP: I would love for everyone to read it. Like I already posted a Family member sent it to me.

#624 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:26 pm

and a big hello to Osaka!

#625 murphy on 09.10.08 at 11:27 pm

osaka puma — no worries there my friend.

Obama is going to lose in a landslide.

maybe in all 50 states even.

Either way, the guy’s had LOSER written all over his face since March.

#626 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:27 pm

#606 Anna7000
That was a good question. I didn’t know the answer myself. Makes the idea of leacing the top blank or voting for a third party kinda scary. I have said nothing about those who can’t bring themselves to vote for McCAIn. Their choice but, with the rules as they are, will they still make the same choice?
Look at Carpathias strategy lately. Pulling out of some states and heading for others. Trying to play the electoral map.
I think Anna , you stumbled on to something with that question.
Spooky.
try #5 #6 #7

#627 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 11:27 pm

ericka.. i feel disgusted today with the mainstream media..it seems they have the game rigged and theres not much we can do about it..i hate that helpless feeling

#628 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:28 pm

614 Anna7000 ;)

#629 murphy on 09.10.08 at 11:28 pm

hope you feel better SunnyPA.

Glad to know you’re still around acting all puma-like.

#630 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 11:31 pm

#620 hillstheone

“Sept 10 2008 – A ‘Macaca’ Moment for Obama?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305938635299185

I so said that first. If this Pig thing is a mistake he is a total idiot! Sexist or Idiot, Sexist or Idiot, dissections, dissections. Which wing do I pull off the fly first??

puzzling

#631 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:31 pm

snowtiger – what’s “5, 6, 7″?

ericka – oh, yeah, girl, you screamed LOUD!

dances – i’m going to sign off for the night. exhausted. you know how to find me. let me know if you want me to work on the text and send it to you. wish i had graphic capabilities on my computer along with skills in that area, but sadly, i have neither. but, like i said, i can get the text set up and think of a good title (i hope), maybe embellish it, etc. (though, truth be told, it’s pretty good as is, but i’d still love to play around with it and see what you think).

sunny pa – omg! just seeing your name makes my day! hope you’re doing well!

‘night all.

#632 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:32 pm

I feel the same way Osaka… But then I read comments on various articles at work, and I see not all have sipped from the koolaid. The networks will provide not relief until NOV 4th. But I find strength everytime I come here with my family…. Pumas….

#633 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:32 pm

As much as it looks like BO is going to lose, we have to assume it is a tight race and do whatever it takes to defeat him. I joined Moveon.org to see what they were up to. They sent oiut an e-mail urging us to go to a special camp to learn how to handle the battleground states. They have money and numbers. It is creepy this camp thing.

#634 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 11:33 pm

579 Anna7000 Doesn’t the Supreme Court decide or call another vote?

#635 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:33 pm

nite nite Anna7000!!!

#636 Anna7000 on 09.10.08 at 11:33 pm

hillary2008

ditto ditto ditto ditto
and good night

#637 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:34 pm

#625 osaka puma
Helpless?
No my friend. I remember when this pac started, I followed here from Hillarys website.
Since that time we have grown to a national movement, forced issues into the national spotlight, got the onc cornered and forced them to show how devious they are to the American public, made hundreds of thousands of calls, sent umpteen e-mails and letters, cheered up Geraldine Ferraro and countless others, caused more nightmares than we will ever know to the thugs and had a ball doing it.
Not to mention met some great people, hunted trolls for fun and profit, got educated and really made a difference.
This pac has proven that America, OUR America is alive and well.
We are powerful.

#638 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:34 pm

Goodnight Anna Sleep well.

#639 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 11:35 pm

623 murphy c You’ve been right about alot of things…I REALLY hope you are right this time about that.

#640 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:36 pm

#629 Anna7000
Oh ,how many times I try to post.
#1

#641 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 11:36 pm

this election has gone beyond a party thing..its more than that now..its about saving our country from tyranny..
I’m not a republican but I share a great concern with them now that has become a mutual cause..
not allowing obama to seize power in our beloved USA.. for this rerason I wish them good luck and they have my back in this great cause

#642 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 11:36 pm

610 Anna7000
No, that’s okay… it isn’t like a chart or anything, ya know? ;)

#643 shampoovta on 09.10.08 at 11:37 pm

Good night to all.

Good Night – The Beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQZJXkh88oM

#644 antifish on 09.10.08 at 11:37 pm

Is anyone watching Palin on CNN? Like I told the reporter that interviewed me this morning, I don’t agree with her politically, but I identify with her on so many levels. I even like her enough that she could be my neighbor.

#645 murphy on 09.10.08 at 11:37 pm

hear hear Snowtiger!

That is the SPIRIT!

We are making history folks. Never forget that.

#646 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 11:37 pm

#628 shampoovta
IMO that comment was not a mistake just listen how he made it he says’ You can put lipstick on a pig’ then he pauses and everyone laughs then he continues. No he meant it as a slur to Sarah

#647 osaka puma on 09.10.08 at 11:37 pm

thanks snow.. i needed that

#648 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:38 pm

623 murphy

I hope, hope, hope. I thought I would die after GWB won the second time. My husband was sick for three months after that loss. I don’t know how I would handle BO/MO in the White House.

#649 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 11:38 pm

I like Pookie’s ’143 days’ for a poster. Seems like it would grab alot of attention.

#650 murphy on 09.10.08 at 11:38 pm

good night shampoovta — how do you pronounce your name??

#651 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:40 pm

I hear you Osaka! Each of our votes will ensure Nobama does not get what he does not deserve….

#652 queen81 on 09.10.08 at 11:40 pm

Antifish you are watching CNN? I certainly hope you have a stiff drink by your side :-)

#653 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 11:40 pm

642 antifish

#654 Alice1943 on 09.10.08 at 11:41 pm

Haven’t watched CNN since the primaries finished.

#655 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 11:41 pm

Listening to Palin live on Fox back in AK. She is goooooood. Maybe Biden is tripping out and doesn’t want to face her in the debate. LOL.

#656 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 11:42 pm

635 snowtiger
Bravo, paisan!
———————-

Alice1943
Working on it as we type…

#657 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:42 pm

Hi shampoovta,
You know what’s funny about that, there was a time Keith Olbermann went ballistic about the “Macaca” thing (which, being naive or dumb, I never really knew what he was talking about). Ahem. Anyway (moving on, from my ignorance), now we have this “lipstick” comment being compared to it, yet I somehow _doubt_ we’ll find Mr. Keith Olbermann finding anything wrong about the lipstick comment.

Oh, also. No one has mentioned this but in the crowd Obama was addressing you can hear the snickers and sneers and laughter, and Obama pauses like he’s enjoying it & egging them on. Nuff said…

#658 Henerietta on 09.10.08 at 11:42 pm

Murphy: Regards to the daughter disagreeing:

My elder daughter deicded at about 17 to disagree with me and her father on everything. She rejected all she had been and done previous, dropped out of school her freshman year of college (blowing a fantastic scholarship) and moved to another state. After some time, she called me and said “Mom, you are right about just about everything.” I almost had a heart attack.

She is now a nurse, has a 4 year old daughter of her own, and is very politically active in almost every thing I am.

She told me once that she didn’t understand that things could get bad under a different president. She thought how Bill Clinton ran things was how things were always done. If it is any consolation to you, NOT ALL of the kids of that generation bought the denigration of Hillary and of women. My 27 year old daughter didn’t, and my 21 year old didn’t either. I also have a number of nieces who didn’t. But we have all talked and talked and talked. All of us ‘older’ women have discussed with these girls/women, one on one, the things our generation have endured, and the things our mothers and grandmothers had to put up with.

My youngest is a history major, and she really has absorbed the importance of these discussions. Keep the faith, you child is listening.

#659 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:42 pm

nite nite shampoovta!!!

#660 antifish on 09.10.08 at 11:43 pm

Queen,

Only because they are covering Palin’s homecoming to Alaska. Don’t normally watch them. I’d need therapy.

#661 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:43 pm

Great site if you have not been there yet:

http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.com/

#662 ipotter on 09.10.08 at 11:44 pm

Am hearing that in Indiana, they are going to have an expanded early voting system. No details yet, but it is something apparently new just for the upcoming election. Yes, we have always had early absentee in-person-voting, but this is different. It was mentioned that actual early voting, not just registrations, might be set up in malls and other public locations. Am wondering how they plan to staff such an endeavor.

#663 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:44 pm

#653 SISTERLUCK

I like Biden. He knows he is on a sinking ship. He stood up for Hillary today, which I respect. I think he truly knows BO is done. For Democrats, this is a sad, sad, election. We had this one, and Hillary was our ticket. I swear I am crying now.

#664 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:45 pm

#643 murphy #645 osaka puma
654 DancesWithPumas
Bravo pUMAS!!!!
I yield not, I fight.
=jumps up and starts dancing to “We are family”=

#665 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:47 pm

Night Shampoo :)

#666 antifish on 09.10.08 at 11:47 pm

#660 ipotter,

All of these sudden changes in voting laws are worrying me. I’ve heard the same from several people now on this blog. Maybe it’s something we need to monitor?

Don’t know, but it smells like a stinky fish with pig lips wearing a shade of hot pink wrapped in a newspaper.

#667 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:48 pm

I was saying the same earlier today Hillary2008, Joe, I don’t like him, was putting down those that were bashing Hill, and for that, he gets some respect from me. He didn’t have to do it… Course, still ain’t gonna vote for him…. : )

#668 Sisterluck on 09.10.08 at 11:50 pm

#661 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:44 pm

I think Biden is truly a good man at heart. I do think he’s afraid of debating Palin. He does know bozo is not good for America as he said time and time again in the debates that bozo is not ready to lead us. That’s why I find it puzzling that he accepted the VP spot but I guess he just assumed position behind the Dem platform hoping he could help this country in some way. However, bozo will try to destroy it and I don’t blame him at all……I’d be drinking too.

#669 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:50 pm

661 hillary2008
No Hillary, the dems never had this one. The corruption ran too deep.
Like lancing a boil, this cycle will clean the democratic party.
Had to happen this way, I am just glad so many registered democrats are true believers and are willing to stand up for their beliefs rather than the party.
I salute you all.

#670 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:50 pm

I lost my mother two years ago and have bad days alot. Hillary’s loss hit me hard because my mother loved her, it was like lossing her all over again. Boy I am sad tonight. The media, commentators don’t get that we are real people, with real hopes and dreams and love for our party. This thing is making me sick. I can’t believe the DNC screwed this up so badly.

#671 antifish on 09.10.08 at 11:51 pm

#665 ericka,

I’ve never liked Joe either. Always came off as a pompous blowhard. Like you, I do give him kudos for standing up for Hillary.

#672 Pookie on 09.10.08 at 11:53 pm

Good nite friends

#673 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:53 pm

Night Pookie

#674 Grizzly on 09.10.08 at 11:54 pm

Biden’s comments today about Hillary being the better choice are driving a ton of speculation about Obama swapping Biden for Hillary on the ticket.

Now, I give Hillary a lot more credit than that, since there is nothing but downside for her. If Obama wins, she is locked out until 2016 and will likely be facing an electorate shifting away from Democrats. Even if there is some deal cut that limits Obama to one term, Obama isn’t exactly a man of his word when it comes to promises made to those in his own party (Alice Palmer).

If Obama loses with her on the ticket, she is all but done as a national candidate in the future. The track record for the number ones on the ticket (Gore, Kerry) has not been exactly good for future runs, and being the number 2 on a losing ticket (Edwards, Leiberman) kind of puts you even further back.

And regardless of winning or losing, people are going to look very closely at what Obama ponied up in return – how much of her campaign debt did he promise to eat?

Obama’s judgment will be front and center, expecially after the criticism aimes at McCain for “blowing” his first major decision of a candidate in picking a VP. Plus, it will look like a major act of desperation, and reinforce the knock that Obama would do anything just to get elected.

It will also make Hill look bad, like she either forced Biden off the ticket or was willing to compromise her values to get onto the ticket. And it will send the message that sexism is fair game in the US.

I just don’t see any upside for Hillary at all, and would be very disappointed if she made that move.

#675 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:54 pm

National Holiday for Native Americans
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?indian

You might like to sign this petition OR read the comments of those who have

#676 DancesWithPumas on 09.10.08 at 11:54 pm

662 snowtiger
LOL!!

#677 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:54 pm

Hillary2008, my heart goes out to you…. I am feeling your pain, as my grandmother (who was more of a mother that my mom was) just passed in May. I have had so many bad and sad days. Remember your love is all I can say, it doesn’t make the tears stop, but it does the heart well.

#678 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:55 pm

nite nite Pookie!!!

#679 antifish on 09.10.08 at 11:55 pm

#668 hillary2008,

I know how you feel. I was watching Palin get off the plane tonight with all her supporters cheering. It drove me to tears because all I could think of was Hillary and how she should be the one getting off a plane to cheering crowds.

As long as I live, I will never forgive those who stole this election from her and that includes Barack Obama. I will spend the rest of my life doing all I can to fight them and make them pay.

#680 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:56 pm

674 DancesWithPumas
BOOGIE TILL YOU DROP :)

#681 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:56 pm

antifish, thanks, glad to hear a like feeling…!!!

#682 Henerietta on 09.10.08 at 11:57 pm

Check out this link about voting records. Read the entire article. It will tell you more than just raw data.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/

#683 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:57 pm

#668 hillary2008
I am sure your mother is watching and is very proud of you.

#684 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:57 pm

TOPIC: New Bumper Sticker

Dances & I have designed a new PUMA bumpersticker. It’s orange and says “PUMA PAC” on top,
“Stopping Caucus Fraud in its tracks!!” underneath,
with little PUMA paws all across it. and pumapac.org in the corner.

FreddieBrown: Can you help us put a plan together to get these printed up? Post a cost online? Or??

Thanks much.

#685 antifish on 09.10.08 at 11:58 pm

#672 Grizzly,

Wonderful analysis and I totally agree! Let’s hope Hillary doesn’t succumb to stupidity.

#686 hillary2008 on 09.10.08 at 11:58 pm

erikca AZ
antifish

Thanks. That means alot. It is really personal for us, and loss is loss. It all feels connected somehow.

#687 hillstheone on 09.10.08 at 11:59 pm

hi antifish, how are you doing tonight?! ;D

#688 snowtiger on 09.10.08 at 11:59 pm

682 hillstheone
I want one.

#689 erickaAZ on 09.10.08 at 11:59 pm

antifish, I cried too! but I was crying becuz I was thinking of all of the hate that is being thrown at her (like at Hill) and still her loyal people showed her their love… Damn I cried…. : )

#690 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:00 am

#681 snowtiger

Thanks. :)

#691 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 12:02 am

hillary 2008.. i always think of the things that now I would want to have talked to my parents about and questions that I would want to have answered..
parents are treasures of culture and history…
it’s too bad when we are young we see it differently..

#692 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 12:04 am

snowtiger, OK we will make sure you get one, but first we have to get them printed! ;D If you see freddiebrown online please refer him / her to that post.

Also I am off for a while & BBL tonite.

#693 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:04 am

Yes it does Hillary2008, I feel so damn close to all of “my” Pumas. I rush home every day just to be here, whether I post or not. This place has become a home filled with people I love and care about. Your words about your mom brought tears to my eyes and my heart hurt. I wanted just to let you know that you are loved even though knowing it wouldn’t take away your loss or pain.

This home has given all of us support and the knowledge that our family is around us everywhere in this country…. I truly love my Puma family… : )

#694 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:06 am

#684 hillary2008,

Yes it does. We are here for you. I hope you know that. Puma is a family and each of us is a genuine American hero. America just hasn’t caught on yet. :D

#695 Henerietta on 09.11.08 at 12:06 am

#672 Grizzly

For all the reasons you cite, I think Hillary turned him down, or made it clear before he asked, probably in the meeting they had after the primaries, that she would not accept VP.

There was some local discussion here in Indiana that Evan Byah also turned him down. This was a news story on a local channel.

I hope this is the case, and that there were others. Biden knows they are losing, and I think he is OK with that. He is playing the game, as all of them are, but he is very aware that this mess is going nowhere.

#696 sazzylady on 09.11.08 at 12:07 am

I found this on another blog

September 10, 2008Did Obama Mock McCain’s Arm Disability? (Video)Topics: Political News and commentaries

Sweetness & Light asks, “Did Mr. Obama imitate John McCain’s arm movements during his speech at Schott Glass in Duryea, PA. September 5, 2008″:

[...] You be the judge.

Notice Mr. Obama’s body language starting at about 12:15, when he talks about John McCain:

My answer, after watching the video is that clearly, Obama most definitely mocks John McCain’s arm disability at 12:20 into the clip, and it is accompanied by laughter from the audience.

S & L continues with:

Obama starts talking about the McCain ad. He sets the scene. He says McCain is looking into the distance. Then he, Obama, looks into the distance.

And then Obama does the arm thing — and it gets a laugh from the audience. Even though the line itself isn’t particularly funny.

Again, we admit we might be being overly suspicious.

Though Mr. Obama has given us good reason to be.

Just in case you may have forgotten, John McCain, as a Communist Prisoner-of-War, suffered two broken arms, a broken shoulder and a broken leg, plus a bayonet wound in the groin and years of enemy beatings and other bodily torture – all in the service of his country and the American people. He is a hero par excellence.

The title of this piece should be “Barack Obama, wannabe CIC, mocks disabled veteran war hero’s disability.” As a veteran, I find Obama’s gesture an appalling disgrace and disrespectful to every veteran, especially those who have suffered disabling injuries and wounds in the service of our country so that asshats like Barack Hussein Obama can have the freedoms to be disrespectful of us without any kind of legal repercussion. However, having the freedom to mock us shouldn’t give him the idea that we’ll vote for the SOB.

Just who in the hell does this b*****d think he is? Does he think being a Marxist, Alinsky-ite, community organizer entitles him to make fun of wounded and disabled combat veterans?

If you haven’t guessed by now, I’m mad as hell.

#697 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:08 am

#689 osaka puma

It is so true. I always thought I would have my mother like her mother, into her 90′s. She was in her 60′s, lung cancer. It is so crazy because I feel like she would get this and be a mamapuma too. She would love you guys.
She would have hated the way Hillary was treated. I know she would love Sarah.

#698 snowtiger on 09.11.08 at 12:08 am

Later hills

#699 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:09 am

#685

Hi hillstheone,

Doing great, how are you?

Thank you for the soap! It’s so luxurious compared to what I’m used to. Makes me feel special! :D

#700 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:10 am

#687 ericka,

I feel your pain, sister!

#701 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 12:11 am

Obama on Letterman now. Letterman auditioning for Chris Mathews job, trying to question Obama on issues.
Letterman getting a tingle…..

#702 snowtiger on 09.11.08 at 12:11 am

I couldn’t help myself. I went and looked at our enemy sites for a bit.
What is wrong with these people?
Aside from the rather ridiculous “articles” the post, replete with lies and smears, the comments (usally betweent 15 and 30 by he same five posters)
are more disgusting than ever.
Well, I can understand, they are doomed to lose. They should just get over it. :)
I am glad to be here.

#703 turndownobama on 09.11.08 at 12:11 am

It is disappointing. This is the year we hoped to clean up Washington, D.C. Instead we have to clean up the D.N.C.

#704 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:13 am

#694 sazzylady,

Is there a video of this? I’d like to see it.

#705 snowtiger on 09.11.08 at 12:14 am

I nust go will try and bbl.
Have a great night everyone.
And hIllary2008, your mom is our angelpuma.
=hugs=

#706 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:14 am

#642 antifish

Is anyone watching Palin on CNN? Like I told the reporter that interviewed me this morning, I don’t agree with her politically, but I identify with her on so many levels. I even like her enough that she could be my neighbor.
————–
I watched her and surprised that I liked her (being a Rep) and not having a lot of political beliefs in common.
I ended watching thinking, if I have to, I could vote for these people. It would make it more difficult if they were falling for the mode of trashing the Democrats. 8 weeks is a long time and God knows, anything could happen.
One question I was thinking when they were talking about abortion…the interview of her was in the past, did you get the impression that she would always choose life over abortion, but I didn’t get a strong sense that she would push it on her agenda. Did you get another impression?

#707 LaureyPuma on 09.11.08 at 12:15 am

Good evening fellow Pumas,

You know, I am really, really angry about Fowler’s comment today. My prowl email was returned as undeliverable. I plan on mailing it to her office tomorrow.

I know it is late and there are most likely few reading this blog now, so my next comment may not produce volumes of Pumas wanting to pound on me: I think I will vote strictly GOP this year and the dems can go to Hell.

#708 Henerietta on 09.11.08 at 12:15 am

694:
The media needs to be aware of this. If it is true, it would make a real difference.

My father is a WWII era veteran. He was not wounded, and the war ended before he saw combat, however, he has many friends who did see combat. The fact that my dad, as a 17 year old was willing to join the Marine Corps and to lay down his life for his country is significant to me and my siblings. I would not have any veteran, especially one who has endured what McCain has endured, be mocked. Shameful………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#709 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:16 am

#703 snowtiger

Wow, that is so wonderful. :)

#710 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:17 am

nite nite SnowTiger!!!!

#711 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:17 am

Fox just said the Republican main blog is Townhall.com

Does anyone ever go there to prowl?

#712 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:17 am

#700 snowtiger,

Bless your heart, Puma. I wonder out there to gather intelligence at least once a day, but the experience always leaves me in need of delousing and fumigation!

#713 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:17 am

hmm, wander. late

#714 Sisterluck on 09.11.08 at 12:18 am

I would like to punch bozo in the face. Sorry, just rewatched his idiotic pig/fish comment prepared stump speech.

#715 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:18 am

Antifish, we are family! : )

#716 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 12:19 am

682 hillstheone
TOPIC: New Bumper Sticker
Dances & I have designed a new PUMA bumpersticker. It’s orange and says
—————————————————–
hillstheone designed the bumpersticker, I just executed it for her, by direction.

#717 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:19 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pPAdN6XQG0

Another new McCain ad against Obie…funny they use wolves in the ad (Glad it wasn’t PUMAs)

#718 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:19 am

#709 BillieJo

Not me. I’m not ready to stick my whole foot into the Republican water. Just have my pinky toe in there to monitor the temperature.

#719 Grizzly on 09.11.08 at 12:20 am

Hey, since the topic of the day seems to be pigs and such, I thought this report posted on the “Swineline” made for interesting reading:

http://swineline.org/2008/08/28/pork-in-the-presidential-race/

I saw on another site that Biden may be up for “Porker of the Year”. And if we measured things on a pro rated basis, Obama may just be the Boss Hog at the trough. Sooo-weeee!

#720 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 12:20 am

Hi LauraPuma!

BillieJo- I feel the same way. She does’t push an agenda on other people.

#721 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:22 am

Antifish, jump on in, the water is nice…. : )

#722 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:23 am

they see to have room in this tub/pool, room enough to establish our owm spot… unlike the DEM pool….

#723 kasota on 09.11.08 at 12:24 am

I wonder what Howard Dean is doing right now…sweating I hope. Dispite the recent surge for McCain in the polls, Obama still leads in the all important Electoral College.

#724 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:24 am

Wow, Letterman has lost it. McCain and Cindy will be on the View on Friday.

#725 Grizzly on 09.11.08 at 12:24 am

Found the video of Obama mocking McCain. It’s 22 minutes long, but the part to see somes in a little after the 12 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L31go6-LAs0

I don’t know how to cut this down to repost.

#726 Missy on 09.11.08 at 12:25 am

I REALLY hope all this hype about Hillary replacing Biden is nothing more than that — hype.
Biden would have to have a good reason to drop out to protect Obama’s poor decision in choosing him in the first place. If Obama chose Hillary to replace him, it would be too transparent (choosing a woman who he dissed for months on end) for the public…I sure hope so anyway!
Hillary would be a fool to accept the VP position now if it were offered to her. Second place behind a losing candidate is NOT what she wants on her resume. By staying in the background, she gives strength to her next bid for the presidency. Obama is a loser, backed by the “selection” with Dean, Brazile, et. al. at the helm. Hillary needs to be rid of them at the DNC for her next bid, and Obama’s loss in November is the key to their ouster.
Suppose Hillary did accept a VP position now — the Republicans will only use her talking points during the primary against Obama, where she praises McCain and criticizes Obama. I still think the Republicans strategy has been brilliant. The Dems are painted into a corner big time.
To me, it is clear that they cannot use Hillary in this election, but maybe I place to much faith in the electorate — I do think they see through the smoke and mirrors.

#727 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 12:25 am

henrietta.. obamas chickenshit swipes at john mccain ..laughing at the man and sneakily calling him a “smelly old fish” is indicative of what kind of piece of s..it obama is..
while I dont agree with some of mccains ideas I still respect the man for what he has endured and sacrificed to serve his country..
obama doesnt deserve any respect in my opinion

#728 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 12:26 am

721 kasota
Dean’s wandering around cenetaries, recording names off gravemarkers. He needs all the voters he can get, and then some…
and they’re still going to lose.

#729 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:26 am

BO talking about his lunch with B ill Clinton, saying he is going to be campaigning for HIM for 8 wks. Now be loves Bill, what an a–! (on Letterman)

#730 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 12:27 am

cemetaries, even

#731 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:27 am

all we have is faith of each other, and the faith others out there see as we see…. (OBNuts excluded of course)
just be true to yourself and have faith in those around you…. : )

#732 Sisterluck on 09.11.08 at 12:27 am

LOL. Yep, and that is so true yet so scary.

#733 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:27 am

#726 Dances

I hope, please. This will be a long 8 weeks.

#734 Sisterluck on 09.11.08 at 12:28 am

#726 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 12:26 am

Oops, meant to add who I was replying to.

#735 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:28 am

#716 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:19 am

#709 BillieJo

Not me. I’m not ready to stick my whole foot into the Republican water. Just have my pinky toe in there to monitor the temperature.
——–
Don’t worry, I haven’t become a Republican….I am just being a spy over at their sites to see what is up. I also go to BOs site for the same thing…to spy. If I have to vote for McCain this Nov I want to see how deep the sh!t will be that I may have to step into. :roll:

#736 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:29 am

#704 BillieJo,

I have a warm and fuzzy feeling when it comes to Palin because although she has all these publicly stated positions, she has a record of not acting on them. I’ve done a little research the last few days about all the smears the Bots were throwing out and was able to debunk all of them. I think that is why she is so popular. She holds all these conservative convictions, yet she’s like, live and let live.

Disclaimer: This is an opinion I’ve formed in less than two weeks. Don’t hold me to it.

#737 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 12:30 am

Grizzly
Is it in the beginning or end? I can’t stand the sight of him or the sound of his voice more than I have to.

#738 jenniforhillary on 09.11.08 at 12:30 am

I just finished my work and took a bath. I am sad. And I am tired. I have been fighting for over one year and not sleeping for most of it. And I am just one girl.

I feel like something bad is happening. have felt that since ZERO came on the field. Today, I felt it like a weight on my chest keeping me from breathing.

Something is happening puma peeps. And it is not good. I will do my prowls tomorrow. I will send my check. But I am very very worried. And I am sad. So fucking sad.

without puma, I would not be able to exist. I come here and read and type and feel that this is reality. what is out there is some strange orwellian nightmare, and every woman’s worst nightmare (and man’s).

This race is so much more than D vs. R. This race is about right and wrong, and about the future of this country. Our time is winding down, and one can only wonder if we are gerbils on the spinning wheel….

I am concerned about Bill’s stumping…very very concerned. I think we need a prowl. I compare it to a the husband of the rape victim giving the rapist a job….UNacceptable and very very disconcerning to the District Attorney. Since PUMA is the DA, what should we do???

#739 sazzylady on 09.11.08 at 12:31 am

Thank you grizzly
I was watching the video and did not see the Antifish post
I didnt see much , but I get crosseyed whenever I see or hear the Obastard speak

#740 LaureyPuma on 09.11.08 at 12:32 am

#119 Sisterluck, you hit the nail on the head girl. I am trying to catch up on this blog – haven’t been on all day. I hope after reading more I will learn that the rumor about Biden stepping down and Hillary stepping in is just that – rumor.

I sincerely doubt it. As you stated, the Obama campaign is looking more and more crazy by the day. So are the democrats as a whole – either crazy, stupid, or spineless.

If that preposterous report turns into reality, I will not vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket. And I will also change by voter registration from Independent to Republican and be done with this whole sordid mess.

#741 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:32 am

Jenniferforhillary

We all have that feeling tonight. Puma’s connected somehow. It is weird.

#742 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 12:32 am

Changes in voting laws is just an extension of the way we were ripped off in the primary/caucus sham. We need to monitor this very closely or we will end up with another president who didn’t win honestly, like Bush did in 2000 and 2004.

#743 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:33 am

#705 Laurey,

My email to Fowler went through just fine. Here is the addy again if you’d like to retry.

cfowler@scdp.org

#744 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:34 am

#713 ericka,

Yes, we are!

#745 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:34 am

I, myself, am not worried about swimming in the Rep. waters. I know who I am and what I think. And If I don’t feel the same after the election, I will search for a different pool… But for now, I will be the life guard screamming, ” NO OBAMAS IN THE WATER!”

#746 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:35 am

#727 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:26 am

BO talking about his lunch with B ill Clinton, saying he is going to be campaigning for HIM for 8 wks. Now be loves Bill, what an a–! (on Letterman)
—————-
Yea, right. Like all the stumping Bill has done so far for him.
Hahahahahahaha!

The big dog can’t stand Obie for what he did to his Hillary and Bill doesn’t hide his feelings very well.
Bill’s speech at the convention…everyone I spoke to felt the same way, when Bill talked about Hillary at the beginning…he was sincere, and the rest of the speech he was barely able to force the lies out of his mouth.

#747 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 12:35 am

736 jenniforhillary It is a very healthy fear that we should all have. There are powers that be that are much stronger than anything in our government. More powerful that supreme courts, congresses, and presidents.
I think you are right about something happening. It is a time to be discerning and diligent.

#748 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:36 am

Big Hug for Antifish…. : )

#749 DancesWithPumas on 09.11.08 at 12:36 am

Yippieeeeee 9:30! Off to bed, and tomorrow is THURSDAY!! wooooooohoooooooooo!
Goodnight.

#750 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 12:37 am

It’s late so I’ll get silly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBS7dVrE1U&feature=related
You’re a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
You really are a heel.
You’re as cuddly as a cactus,
You’re as charming as an eel.
Mr. Grinch.
You’re a monster, Mr. Grinch.
Your heart’s an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You’ve got garlic in your soul.
Mr. Grinch.
I wouldn’t touch you, with a
thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.
You’re a vile one, Mr. Grinch.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Mr. Grinch.
You’re a foul one, Mr. Grinch.
You’re a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. Grinch.
The three words that best describe you,
are, and I quote: “Stink. Stank. Stunk.”

#751 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:37 am

#724 Missy,

Totally spot on!

#752 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 12:38 am

My cousin says that spirits are moving. That time is changing. Cataclysmic changes come on the winds.

#753 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:40 am

nite nite DanceswithPumas!!!!

#754 tennaseepuma on 09.11.08 at 12:41 am

#736 jenniforhillary……I feel the same.

#755 Sisterluck on 09.11.08 at 12:41 am

#734 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:29 am

I agree on Palin. She will not impose her personal beliefs on Americans. You can hold me to it regarding abortion and religion. I have to hand it to the Republicans this year. They put up their most moderate Repub this year and the Dems put up their most liberal, inexperienced candidate. The Dems should have won in a landslide. Uh wrong. Although we and Hillary were screwed over, we lucked out in that the Repubs put up their least Repub candidate, if you get what I’m saying. After the Bush era, they had to or they would lose even if the Dems put up Big Bird. Then I believe McCain really is Maverick on some levels so he added Palin, case closed. The DNC leadership looks like the corrupt morons they truly are. Good riddance.

BTW, Biden does like Hillary but I think his comment wasn’t to jump ship but was to respect the Hillary voters b/c he knows they are losing them by the day or more specifically bozo is losing them by the day on his own. It is a pander.

#756 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:42 am

#733 BillieJo,

Oh I got you. I spend half my day over in the enemy camps trying to find out what they are up to and how they are feeling. Any good military leader will tell you, when you’re fighting a war above all, know your enemy.

I may end up voting for McCain too, but Republicans are still the enemy. To me he’s never been a real Republican.

#757 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 12:44 am

jennifer..i feel the same..
this has been a sad year and i feel we are living in a land of shadows and negative vibes..

#758 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 12:45 am

Keep your friends close and your ememies closer.

#759 Your northern neighbor on 09.11.08 at 12:45 am

Hi Laurey, regarding your#705 post:

Nobody is going to pound on you for voting strictly GOP this year! However, absolute power will almost guarantee corruption: just think back how it was when the Republicans occupied all three branches of government prior to 2006.

By the way, I am curious why you alternate between LaureyPuma and Laurey4hill? Any particular reason? :?:

#760 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:46 am

Goodnight puma family. I have my green fleece Hillary scarf on, it is cold tonight. I am so proud of her and of us. Tomorrow is another day to prowl.

#761 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:47 am

#736 jenni,

To be honest, I’m worried too. Reality is, the polls are inaccurate. They do not poll cell phones which most people, especially young ones, now use. We must take nothing for granted. I fear there aren’t enough of us to educate the masses before November and that Obama, the media creation, may still pull this off. All we can do is all we can do to stop him. We must!

#762 snowtiger on 09.11.08 at 12:48 am

#736 jenniforhillary
Just swinging by for minute.
I’m sure not everyone knows it but, there a quite a few followers of “non-traditional” religions on this board. I noticed it a few weeks in and some of us have worked together in our non-traditional ways.
Anyway, its odd for so many to be in one place with out prior planning.
Rest assured people there is more going on than we like to post about.
Remember all is subject to law.
What you sow you most assuredly will reap.
We are the light in these dark times, never give up.

#763 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 12:48 am

…thought some of you may be interested in this email..

Hillary will be attending a reception for Sheila Jackson Lee on September 21st in Houston Texas and they need your help! This is no ordinary fundraiser… There appears to be an all out effort on to oust representatives that supported Hillary from their congressional seats. Sheila is one of them. Big money players are supporting Sheila’s opponent and really putting the heat on. The “politics of personal destruction” is their game. The smear campaign is in full swing. Sheila stood with Hillary though her entire primary run and received threats, intimidation and namecalling just for supporting her. This kind of behavior can not be rewarded! Please come to her defense by attending this Houston fundraiser. If you can’t be there, please consider donating to her campaign. JOIN HILLARY IN HOUSTON, SEPT 21, 1.30 PM Invitation (Please RSVP): http://www.sheilajacksonlee18.com In the Message box, please type “HOST: ANN MacNAUGHTON”. Donate To Shiela Jackson Lee’s Campaign It is important that Hillary keeps as many of her friends as possible in office to help carry out her work for the American people…us! Please support Sheila if you can.

#764 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:49 am

nite nite Hillary2008, sleep well!!!

#765 snowtiger on 09.11.08 at 12:50 am

#759 antifish
Gallup does poll cell phone users.
The obots have been spreading that rumor to dishearten anyone form seeing the polls as proof of “o”s doom.

#766 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:50 am

#740 Alice,

Agree completely.

#767 hillary2008 on 09.11.08 at 12:50 am

erickaAZ

I will:)

#768 jenniforhillary on 09.11.08 at 12:50 am

pumas have heart…we are connected through the common bond of decency and love for all that is wonderous in this world.

My second biggest concern, after ZERO stealing the win, is that I will not be able to keep being an American. I work for my parents and they depend on me. I do not know what I will do. But I know that I will not live in this country when it is ruled by the devil. As a woman, I could not exist here…

I don’t want to bring you all down, I am just so very concerned. I stopped reading everything 10 days ago. I used to spend 3-4 hours every night reading almost everything (I am big speed reader). I can’t sleep and so I thought less might be best. I got the sense last week that a Pahlin win was probable and that ZERO was imploding, so I felt peace and did not have to read everything.

However, Monday I read a small blurb about ZERO meeting with Bill in New York. DID NOT LIKE THIS ONE BIT. Then the Biden comment and now the comment about Bill stumping for him. I do NOT like this not one bit. I am sick about it.

I will do my prowls, and go to work tomorrow. I will pray. I will hope. puma….

#769 Alice1943 on 09.11.08 at 12:51 am

Everyone asks us for money. I am going to vote for the one that GIVES it to us.

#770 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 12:51 am

antifish..i was very concerned about the cell phone vote also.recently I heard an interview on the radio of rasmussen and zogby and the cell phone thing was brought up.. they said they have factored that in and have made statistical extrapolations.. so the polls are in the ball park

#771 snowtiger on 09.11.08 at 12:52 am

k bed time. Have a great night all. :)

#772 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:52 am

#744 BillieJo,

I don’t want Bill to stump for BO. He hates him so much it could lead to his having a heart attack. Seriously, I would hate BO if that happened. Leave Bill alone!

#773 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:53 am

#736 jenniforhillary
Don’t feel sad, there are 18 million of us that feel the same way that you do. That is why this election has evolved American’s of all ages. Everyone has someone in this race they can finally identify with. For me, it’s usually a choice of one white guy against another bla, bla white guy. Watched the two sling mud at each other for a few month and voted for the one I could tolerate.
This time is different, we have an older white guy that isn’t liked much by his own party but is a war hero, a minority white/black man that plays the rockstar with an unraveling ego, and at some point we had our wonderful hero Hillary, and a young white Rep woman that stirs up similar feelings for the right wing. On top of all these major players the old feelings of sexism have awoken the sleeping giant, Woman’s Rights.

We are normally able to disconnect from a Presidential election for the most part, unless there are hanging chads, butterfly ballots or the ending of an election by the Supremes…but this time, the drama is about the characters running in this election.

On top of that, we ride the rollercoaster with Hillary all the way to her running into a brick wall of corrucption and the betrayal of our party.

—— Wow wouldn’t be exausted and freaked out about all this? The only good thing we have in this American play is that we are watching it all unfold, at least we are not the players getting kicked around like a soccer ball in a snow storm.

——Take a deep breath, lay your PUMA head down and get some good sleep. We are on this roller coaster ride together, 8 weeks seems so long after all that has happened, but we are taking an active roll as a group this time, and we are finally being heard. Feel good that we are more than one lonely, stolen vote.

#774 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:54 am

#746

((((((((( ericka ))))))))))

#775 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:54 am

sorry, I suck at typos….
why this election has involved

#776 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:55 am

Polls or no polls, the one thing the Obama Scum Bags are not counting on is our votes…. I don’t agree with all of McCain/Palin’s thoughts of Gov. But I do trust both of them to listen and take into account my wants and needs…. Obama is in it for his own, he thinks all that he thinks must be right and that he is never wrong (just like Bush 2). So my vote goes to McPalin with open heartedness….

#777 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 12:56 am

and Antifish, I held my breath on Bill in your post… I can love you and still hold him in contempt… : )

#778 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 12:57 am

#770 antifish on 09.11.08 at 12:52 am

#744 BillieJo,

I don’t want Bill to stump for BO. He hates him so much it could lead to his having a heart attack. Seriously, I would hate BO if that happened. Leave Bill alone!
—————-
Anti, don’t worry….Bill loves being in front of the public, he will tell a few lies and then talk about how much he loves America and the Democratic platform. (He will mumble under his breath that he hates Obama.)

#779 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:01 am

THIS SHOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL TO ALL PUMAS! I got this in my e-mail:

Must Obama Bear The Cross Alone

“Must Jesus bear the cross alone and all the world go free? No, there’s a cross for everyone and there’s a cross for me.” Gospel hymn

I was listening to Rev. Al Sharpton’s commentary on the Tom Joyner Morning Show today and the words to the old gospel song; “Must Jesus Bear The Cross Alone” came to mind. Though, Sharpton rarely inspires me, when he’s right, well… he’s right.

Rev. Sharpton talked about the black community’s responsibility to work to ensure Barack Obama is elected on Nov. 4th. “It’s not a time for watching from the sideline”, he said. I agree. It’s easy for many of us to see it as a one-man mission but it’s not. If Sen. Obama becomes president it won’t solve all of Black America’s problems but it would be the most significant advancement of our cause since Pres. Truman integrated the military.

Many have gone to great lengths to say this election is not about race. Again, I concur. However, at its core Obama’s candidacy is the embodiment of the hard-work, dreams and aspirations of a long oppressed people who have fought harder than any, both at home and abroad, to make America the land of freedom and justice for all. Much blood, sweat and many tears were shed to provide him with this opportunity. If one from our legacy ascends to the pinnacle of power in a government that was once the source of our degradation, it’s a victory for us all. Therefore, all like-minded blacks are obligated to help him succeed.

Sarah Palin’s nomination has given the McCain campaign a lead in the polls. Many polls have white voters closely divided between McCain and Obama. My prediction is that it will remain that way right up until Election Day. Which means, an unusually large turnout from the African American community could offset the increased support among white women provided by Palin and tilt a close election in Obama’s direction. But the turnout has to be huge, possibly 20% to 30% higher than it’s ever been.

Large numbers of blacks have registered to vote during the primaries but millions remain unregistered. For instance, among the 219,000 convicted felons who recently had their rights restored by the State of Florida, a little more 9,000 have registered to vote. Many of those yet to register are African American. This population alone could be the difference in Obama winning or losing in Florida.

Through out our communities, in nursing homes and churches; on college campuses and on the corner; down the street, next door and in our homes, there are black people that are not registered to vote. The deadline for registration is Oct. 4th. Between now and then it’s every black Obama supporter’s duty to make sure as many of them as possible are registered and at the polls on Election Day. We must not let Barack Obama bear this cross alone!

#780 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:03 am

ericka,

We can agree to disagree. I love Bill Clinton. I can forgive him because Hillary did.

#781 kasota on 09.11.08 at 1:04 am

I just have a gut feeling, one of Obama’s wolves will find something in Alaska at the last second and then him and his DNC buddies will hammer it to the public just in time to win. If he cheated during the primaries, he’s going to cheat in the general election. I just know it.

#782 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:04 am

#776 BillieJo,

Yeah, you’re right. Bill has the gift of gab!

#783 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 1:05 am

I think I smell a troll….

#784 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:06 am

#779 kasota,

Then McPalin had better send some wolves to Chicago quick. I assure you they will find much more dirt there than BO’s Botourneys will find in Alaska!

#785 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 1:06 am

lol, and I truly am laffing, it is ok Antifish, Bill has that effect, or perhaps it is my own experiences that color my thoughts on him. But you are you, and you are a Puma, and you are my friend, my family, and I love you no matter…. so it’s ok…. : )

#786 goofsmom on 09.11.08 at 1:07 am

#766 jenniforhillary

Hang in there.. tomorrow for me (PST) today for you (EST) is a day that has alot of negative energy in our memories. For me 9/11 is a day I do not try to make sense of, I don’t make decisions on, I just try to make my way through the emotions.

#767 Alice1943 – I will light my candle at midnight and pray for the souls that pass.

I agree something is moving and it’s big, I just try not to feel small.

So much is going on with the election, I feel like there is something I’m missing, something that doesn’t belong in the way things are going.

I just take faith that good does win. Not without a struggle but it does.

#787 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:07 am

#781 Sunshinelvr,

Hey there! Good to see my fellow GA gal! I’m getting a whiff too.

#788 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 1:09 am

#780 antifish

And don’t forget when the media was talking for days about Obama waiting for Bill to call him back….how many days did Obama wait and then got a message from one of Bill’s PR people…………more tv drama waiting for a real comment from Bill to Obama………………more waiting, then Bill spoke when he felt like it.
Bill knows how to play the game, so does Hillary. I couldn’t do it, but I’ve got to love them both for being professionals at this dirty game of politics.

#789 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 1:09 am

Does anyone have a link where fowler apologised for her remark?

#790 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 1:12 am

antifish! How are you? Maybe if we ignore it, it will go away! :lol: kinda stinky though :mrgreen:

#791 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:12 am

God I want the GOP to strike back!!
i feel strongly obama has so much bad sh..it in his background..its hard to believe the GOP doesnt have the resources and the ability to go to chicago and digg up some skeletons.. i hope they are fighting a war !!

#792 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 1:14 am

#782 antifish

#779 kasota,

Then McPalin had better send some wolves to Chicago quick. I assure you they will find much more dirt there than BO’s Botourneys will find in Alaska!
————-
I’ll make it easy for them if they just open up an email address, we can send them endless information. :-)
The beginning of Murphys movie, the guy driving through Chicago showing the 77 years of no “change” in his pet project. His big claim to fame.

#793 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:15 am

Hopefully my post did not make you think I am a troll. I posted that since that is how *61 is attempting to win.

NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER!

#794 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 1:17 am

791 NoMoreInFL

okay..Missed the top part of the post.Are people SERIOUSLY comparing hin to Jesus???

#795 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:19 am

Yes, it is from a one very well known talk show host here in Orlando. I left it word for word…since I always call him *61.

#796 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:20 am

#777 NoMoreInFl,

That is wrong on so many levels. I’m not surprised though, Sharpton has always been a racist. It’s so sad that black people are buying into the myth that Barack Obama is one of them. He is not. His ancestors were not slaves and he did not live through the oppression in this country. Instead, he lived as privileged upbringing far removed from the racial strife of the 60s and 70s. If anything, history points to the very real possibility that his ancestors were Arab slave owners in Africa.

Oh well, I guess I get why 11 percent of the population would like to have someone in charge who they believe is one of them. Problem is, he’s not. He’s a Chicago elitist that could care less about anything but himself.

#797 RonniPUMA on 09.11.08 at 1:20 am

im glad to have my computer fixed and get to blog with you pumas im so proud of how you have helt all of us up. The greatest day of my life will be if ob looses and his big offey wife crys all night.
Ill party !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I stay on pins also about the wolves going to try to hurt sara
Ob goes to any means to get what he want as we all know, and it really is a worry he has no respect for any one or thing.
I always feel better when i get to vent with u.
Im so greatful for the pumas and the stand they have taken, and believe me it has made a difference.
When most of us vote for mc and sara it will shift the election in our favor.
Thats the hope that keeps me going from day to day.

#798 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 1:21 am

777NoMoreInFL
I can almost respect some of that letter.
It IS time to get people more active in politics, time to get more minorities and women in politics.
It would be great to have a woman as President.
Same goes for an African American.

It’s just that Obama has proven he’s the wrong man.

#799 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 1:22 am

#789 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:12 am

God I want the GOP to strike back!!
i feel strongly obama has so much bad sh..it in his background..its hard to believe the GOP doesnt have the resources and the ability to go to chicago and digg up some skeletons.. i hope they are fighting a war !!
——–
Oh the Republicans have the big bucks alright.
I get the feeling there are lots of pots boiling on the back burner and they are now playing with Obie like a cat (PUMA) plays with it’s prey before the big pounce!
That’s the drama I am waiting for. Maybe at this point McCain is being the nice guy while he watches Obie freak out that the media are not tingling over him, he is jealous of Palin’s media attention. Maybe like an adult watching a child over react to not getting what they want.
There could be real knowledge of something finally coming down on Obie, maybe that Hillary, Bill and McCain already know about that they are waiting to see if a law suit stings him first before they have to roll out the big guns.

#800 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:23 am

#789 osaka puma,

Patience my pumapal. That’s why they call it an October Surprise! It’s coming.

#801 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 1:24 am

777NoMoreFL
You mean that convicted people can vote in your state?

#802 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:25 am

It’s more than sad…it’s scary! I have seen too many elections “won” using the AA vote.

#803 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:27 am

obamas campaign has been run on race and hes succesfully used the race card and especially sexism to his advantage..
mccain has been squeaky clean and admirably above board in not using race.
actually racial identity politics is a dead end road that can only lead to the gates of hell…
when one race begins to push on another you can be assured sooner or later there will be a reaction that could be very dangerous..

#804 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:28 am

Yes, if they ask to have their rights restored and there is a push for all of them to request it…only in Florida that screws up every election!

#805 RonniPUMA on 09.11.08 at 1:29 am

im just reading some of the blogs and to #777 i hope ob is nailed to the cross and left there.
Hes a joke a lier a ripoff and wont take responsiblity for anything he has said or done.
im not happy he ripped off tax payers to the tune of 14 mil and whatever
As far as im concerned he would do or say anything
let him bear his cross alone for the good book says what you sow you will reap wouldnt want to be in his shoes
He mentioned the word pig what can i say

#806 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 1:30 am

801 osaka puma

you are right…he is getting some people all fired up and tryoing to set the stage for yelling “racism” one last time..on November 4th. I keep trying to tell my friends that he is playing them, he is not qualified, he does NOT have THEIR best interests at heart..but I know it is heart-breaking to some of them. There ARE worthy black men/women- but *61 is NOT one of the worthy ones.

#807 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:32 am

I will be sending it to Hannity. So did anyone hear those remarks in the news today!?!?! NOT!

#808 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:32 am

ronni.. like the old saying goes.. “the devils favorite hiding place is behind the cross”
i can see obamas grimace poking out behind the old cross

#809 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 1:32 am

Good post over at the Repub website about the lipstick-

Michael writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 7:19 PM
The 2nd shoe
A lot of guys are saying the pig story has been overblown, and they make some good points… but they are missing something big.

For starters, any woman who has had a sister, daughter, or friend called that epitaph will have a much more emotionally powerful reaction to the word than most men will grasp. And, while Senator Obama can say he was not intending to direct the comment towards Governor Palin, the reaction of the crowd tells anyone who is not socially tone deaf that the Senator was indulging in a bit of mischief. Of course, politics often gets far more nasty than this. There is, however, a second shoe to consider.

Obama’s answer to his short resume has been to claim great judgment and to promise to change ugly politics and government. This bit of mischief appears small to some, but in the Trent Lott era of political correctness it was also both petty and stupid. This incident undermines his twin pillars of judgment and change. But wait, it gets worse.

Since Palin’s introduction, Obama’s campaign has had a huge problem. By picking Biden over Hillary, Obama’s only executive decision since choosing which college to attend was, in addition to being an anti-change good ol boy, both petty and stupid.

Because the lipstick kafuffle revolves around Palin, it reminds everyone that Hillary was the right choice but Obama fumbled because of a grudge. Bottom line: Lipstick re-enforces the consequences of the Biden mistake.

If Senator Obama’s judgment is this bad at 3 PM, do we really want to find out what he might do at 3 AM?

#810 FemTheDem on 09.11.08 at 1:33 am

Just listened to the 09/10 radio show and love the idea to invite an Obama campaign rep/DNC to speak to PUMAs!

I think they actually might accept an invite, given Allred was on… meaning, the Obama elitists’ would see the PUMAs treated her with respect (even in disagreement)… so *maybe* they wouldn’t be so skeered to face us. Meh, maybe.

#811 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 1:34 am

This is part of an email I recieved…thought I would pass it on…

Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:

A.. He voted for partial birth abortion.
A. He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
A. Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government (quotas)..
A. In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing as being too severe.
A. Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.
A. Admitted his use of marijuana and cocaine in high school and in college.
A. His religious convictions are very murky.
A. He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
A. Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim Nations
A. Opposed the Patriot Act.
A. First bill he signed that was ever passed was campaign finance reform.
A. Voted to allow law suits against gun manufacturers.
A. Supports universal health-care.
A. Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
A. Supports granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.
A. Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
A. Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
A. Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
A. Wants to make the minimum wage a ‘living wage’.
A. Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes. (241 votes Demo, 10 votes Republican)
A. Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.
A. Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid into Soc. Sec. Tax Increase.
A. He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax which now hits middle income brackets.
A. He voted No on repealing the ‘Death’ Tax. Tax Increase.
A. He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax. Tax Increase.
A. Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded…which is not true.
A. He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

#812 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 1:34 am

What is the October surprise everyone talks of????

#813 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 1:35 am

TOPIC: Forgiveness and Judgment

antifish,
I’m glad you like the soap, I sure do enjoy making it but don’t have enough time it seems. My kids like it too & we haven’t bought store-bought in a looong time!

Re your post:
“I love Bill Clinton. I can forgive him because Hillary did.” SO TRUE. I have been wanting to post that for ages. Think about the hypocracy: the GOP always bashed the Clinton’s for this, and also the Democratic Party bashed the Clinton’s for this.

Isn’t it true, in almost every major religion the concept of Forgiveness is paramount! Get with it, people, and while we’re at it try to let go of judgment, too.

That brings me around to another topic, I never thought I’d say this (cause I still believe Hillary will land in the number #1 spot somehow), but if Hillary did choose a VP slot, I say, let her do it.

Think about it people, the Republican candidates can run one, two, three times. But can anyone name any Democrats who run more than once & actually WIN??!! It’s really not that common! Democratic candidates usually it’s a “now or never” type thing, our party has a history of looking for “new & shiny” every time (like O).

And also don’t judge Hillary & Bill every chance you get. They have FAR more experience at the helm, and know far more about what has gone on, and what is possible to take place in this election, than I’m sure any of us could guess at. And you best believe they are aware of PUMA and appreciate all we do.

Off my soapbox now…I am off to bed & puma’s, tomorrow’s an important anniversary so let’s be extra good and kind to each other tomorrow…thanks for letting me rant.

#814 goofsmom on 09.11.08 at 1:35 am

Updated Post on NQ re: Words Matter.

Scroll down the page about halfway and see the 1st time the “lipstick on a pig” was used against Palin on Aug. 30th. Makes me pissed all over again!

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/10/barack-words-matter-obama/#more-4724

#815 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:35 am

fem.. i think we can all conjecture what the obama reps would tell us..more BS and lies to get us to support beezelbubb

#816 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 1:37 am

As far as anyone being nailed on a cross, get real. That is not what we are about. Yes, we would love to see Hill knock the shit out of Obama, but this cross talk is beyond it all. We are constitutional, not biblical. So don’t bring that crap in our house…Thank you….

#817 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:38 am

ericka..id love to see hillary nail obama with a vicious right “cross” to the jaw..hehehe

#818 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 1:39 am

hi Billiejo,
Just wanted to say hi before I go to bed!
Also I watched the youtube you posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pPAdN6XQG0
& I have a one-word reaction: Wow!

#819 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 1:39 am

Osaka, my sister, I hope you can and will vote for M/P. They are not the repugs we have grown to hate. But, whatever your vote, you are still my sister, and that over-rules all of the other junk…. : )

#820 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 1:40 am

NoMoreInFL
My parents from Houston was suppose to give me writings of Nobama in Vietnamese. They were also going to give me contacts so that I could speak to them directly. (I have to wait now because of the storm) They hate Nobama and feel the same way we all do about him. A Communist B@#&$%^d. I will make copy and if there is a community around your area, you could pass it out. I will also see if I can find an Asian newspaper in FL. so that I could have the articles printed. I would write it myself but can’t read or write. I can speak Vietnamese though.
About the felons, that’s scarey sh!t.

#821 hillstheone on 09.11.08 at 1:41 am

TOPIC: turndownobama = Post of the Day Award

forgot to post this, too:

turndownobama on 09.11.08 at 12:11 am It is disappointing. This is the year we hoped to clean up Washington, D.C. Instead we have to clean up the D.N.C.

#822 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:41 am

ericka..youre damn straights im votin mccain palin..hellll yeah..
i dont want satan in the whitehouse..
:lol:

#823 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:43 am

OK, in my world, this how the next week goes down:

Biden, having assured the American public on a YouTube that went viral that Hillary is perfectly ready to be president and would more than likely make a better vice president than him suddenly admits to being an a alcoholic and checks into rehab.

Meanwhile, the DNC has been served the Berg lawsuit papers and are trying to get some strait answers from Obama who keeps stalling them about his birth certificate.

Smelling a stinky fish, the DNC panics and meets with Bill and Hillary. Grovelling at their feet, they swear total allegiance if only Hillary will temporarily accept the VP position. Hillary accepts with the caveat that she can feed Dean’s testicles to her dog with a nice chianti and some fava beans if anything goes wrong.

Hillary is announced as the VP nominee to replace Biden and just three days later, Patrick Fitzgerald indicts Obama on corruption charges linked with the Tony Rezko conviction. Days later, he is indicted on election fraud and federal immigration charges.

Hillary is automatically elevated to the presidential nominee position and begins the vetting process for a Vice Presidential running mate.

Almost immediately, Gallup polls show Sen Clinton running 12 points ahead of John McCain while Rasmussen shows and even larger gap of 18 points. against the Republican nominee.

Oh well, I can dream, can’t I?

#824 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 1:45 am

Oh my ever so sweet sister, you keep giving me such big smiles… OsakaPuma, I am proud to have you as a sister…. And let me stick a pencil into Satan’s eye…

#825 osaka puma on 09.11.08 at 1:46 am

cassie.. during the primaries Hispanics and Asians voted 2 or 3 to one for hillary..they were her big time supporters.. what many americans dont know is that many Hispanics and Asians came from countries where tyranny and demagogic polticians who make pretty speeches are rampant…they know all about such silver tongue devils..

#826 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:47 am

((((((((( hillstheone ))))))))))

Goodnight, sister!

#827 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:48 am

That would be great! There is a large Vietnamese presense here and I will be glad to walk shop to shop. I will check on their newspaper…if it is local.

reach me same name at gmail

#828 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 1:49 am

Antifish
Given what we know about him, it’s not impossible. Maybe that’s why Hillary is campaigning for him, to get the votes of his supporters when he’s out.

Trivia- In the book, it wasn’t chianti, it was an amarone.

#829 Cassie on 09.11.08 at 1:51 am

I’m so excited but I have to wait until after hurricane Ike. Hope everyone will be ok.

#830 Your northern neighbor on 09.11.08 at 1:52 am

#821 antifish

…and after Hillary finished her second term in 2016, a movie is then made with Murphy playing Hillary.

And wild parties and dancing were everywhere with fireworks..

#831 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 1:52 am

#816 hillstheone

Good night hillstheone, sweet dreams.

#832 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 1:54 am

Antifish…you may not be very off! *61 was served the papers on Sept. 4 and had until Oct. 21 to answer. Now they are filing papers to move the date to Sept. 30. I thnk that is why *61 looks like hell lately…he knows his gig is over!

#833 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 1:55 am

to those on the outside, the 61 koolaid drinking fools, we understand…. we don’t forgive, we understand…
if you believe in the crap he spews, then you are lost. we will help you as you stagger out of the waste land, but if you spout “his” lies, we will not give you water or food… If you fall, we will not help you up. OB threatens out very being, not in a mean way but as a fool on the devil’s errand. So be warned….. PUMAS live here!!!!!

#834 PumaRhythm on 09.11.08 at 1:55 am

Hello Pumas, I was’nt going to blog tonight…just reading….I’m very tired…but for a good reason.

I went to the McCain/Palin Rally today in Fairfax, VA and I have to say as a lifelong Dem [ now Independent] I was surprised that I had such a wonderful time.

I wore my puma orange including an orange hat and I had my Hillary Supporter for McCain/Palin sign complete with paper puma fur border and puma paws. It was an eyecatcher.

Everyone parked their cars at a Fair City Mall and shuttle buses were provided to take us to the park where the rally was held.

Everyone was very nice to me and gave a special cheer for me on the bus and took photos of me with my Hillary sign. They asked a lot of questions and we talked a lot about the primaries As for the GE..I told them as a Puma I would be voting NoObama on top and Dem on the downticket. I told them as a personal choice I would be voting for McCain/Palin and many others would be doing the same but not all. That brought about another loud cheer!

We were told that there was a croud of Obama supporters across the street from the entrance to park and we had to pass by them…we were asked not to respond to them. One of the larger sized men on the bus told me not to worry …they would protect me….two other men agreed….and he went on to say…they would have to come thru them to get to me. I told them that I was very grateful…but happily it did’nt come to that.
I have to say…that once I was spotted by the protesters…it caused quite a stir….they started spewing things about hillary over the megaphone, abortion rights…how Hillary is supporting Obie ….and yes one called me a Hillary hag.
Once inside…I was told…they were sorry but they could’nt allow signs to be carried in because if they alowwed mine then they would have to allow the protesters sign….but she said if I wanted to I could place it at the entrance so everyone could see it as they came in…she said it would make a lot of people happy…so i did and people were taking pics of it as left to go thru security.

It was wonderful inside the park….a sea of people…I thought I heard some say they were expecting 12,000 but I’m not sure what the actual count was….but there was a lot of people there!!! All chanting SARAH !! SARAH !!!

Will write more as it comes back too me…but for now …I must get some sleep.
Goodnite Puma Warriors…sleep well and Thank you for all you do!!

#835 LaureyPuma on 09.11.08 at 1:55 am

Hi Your northern neighbor, I don’t know if you are still signed on, but I am Laurey4Hill on my business computer and LaureyPuma on my home computer.

I understand what you are saying about the balance of power, but I am just disgusted by the stupidity, deception and corruption of the Democratic Party. I was a lifelong Democrat, now I cannot be a part of it any longer. I am doing one heck of a protest vote. The other reason I may be Puma pounded is that the longer this race goes on, the more I really like John McCain. To be truthful, my vote for him will be in earnest, not in protest.

And after reading virtually every post on this thread (it took forever!) I agree with Lara and Sunny PA. I think Biden’s supportive words of Hillary Clinton was just a sham attempt at rallying around a member of the party. I saw the REAL thing during the Republican Convention. Biden’s effort was too little, too late and tiresomely transparent.

#836 antifish on 09.11.08 at 1:59 am

PumaRhythm,

Thanks for the report. I’m glad you had a positive experience with the other side. Maybe McPalin will be the real uniters?

#837 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:00 am

#821 antifish
I have had the same dream without the fava beans. :lol:
I have been afraid to think it and start crying like a little girl when nothing happens and Biden was only telling a lipstick joke on youtube.
I have had hope for Hillary so many times over the past 16 years and every time, some nutjob pulls the rug out from underneath her.
I started thinking today of the day I could put my Hillary button back on and wear it in the Obama Nation of Berkeley.

#838 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:01 am

#830 NoMoreInFl,

You mean I have to keep my fingers crossed until September 30? OK, I can do that!

#839 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:03 am

#835 BillieJO,

I refuse to give up. I’ve dreamed several times of Hillary taking the oath of office. Now, that may be in 2013, but I’d like to think it will happen in 09.

#840 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 2:03 am

PumaRhythm

Great Story!!!

#841 LaureyPuma on 09.11.08 at 2:04 am

Puma Rhythm, What a great story thanks for sharing that! The McCain supporters are really, really nice. I have had to call their headquarters a couple of times and the reception is always great. They said the love Pumas.

They are quite the contrast from BO’s supporters.

#842 goofsmom on 09.11.08 at 2:06 am

Puma Rhythm,

Thank you, I can’t wait to read the rest tomorrow. Glad you had a good time.

#843 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 2:07 am

I have shared with no one this, I dreamed of Sarah Palin two days ago… She was speaking on behalf of the prez (McCain). She was so nice, she listened to everyone in a way everyone understood. I remember waking up thinking how very strange… It was what it was, a dream. Thinking about it, it is my dream, that our government will actually listen to us and care about us…

#844 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:07 am

#826 YesSheCan,

Hmmm, an amarone? Not familiar with it, but I’m sure it’s lovely. I didn’t read “Silence”, but did read “Hannibal”.
Great book, but a tad gory for my taste.

#845 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:08 am

#832 PumaRhythm
How darn sad is this story, the walk many of us will have to take to the dark side because Obama stole the election from Hillary!
Leaving her Hillary sign at the door and walking in to meet her new, temporary party. Like a Greek tragedy.

Obama, I pray that karma comes up and slaps you upside your fat head before November 4th!

#846 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 2:11 am

antifish
If you’re a wine drinker, save up and buy yourself one.
Kinda pricey.
They let the grapes dry a little before they crush them,
intense flavor, one of my favorite Italian wines.

Didn’t read “Hannibal”, my son told me it would upset me, lol.

#847 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:11 am

All right my Puma family. It’s very late on the east coast. See you all tomorrow. Good night to you all.

#848 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:12 am

#844 YesSheCan,

I’ll try it, thanks!

#849 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 2:13 am

#836 antifish I always said…Hillary in 2008! These next few weeks will be interesting to say the least! Bill knew exactly what he was saying on Nightline when he stated that he respected anyone that ran for president as long as they meet the “Constitutional Requirements”.

Can’t wait to wave my orange and say “bye bye *61!”

#850 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 2:13 am

I had an idea for a poster…

show *61 with a “jimmy carter” smile ..and ask the question ..”Do we really need ANOTHER Jimmy Carter in the White House?”

What do you think? nite 4 real everyone prayers for all who lost a loved one/friends/family today ..reading this blog feels like coming home to a safe place sometimes..love you Pumas..tc all

#851 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 2:13 am

there you go BilJoe…. may karma shit down his wind pipe… said in a most respectful way….

#852 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:15 am

#837 antifish
I refuse to give up. I’ve dreamed several times of Hillary taking the oath of office. Now, that may be in 2013, but I’d like to think it will happen in 09.
—————–
PUMAs never give up on Hillary. I have never had a political dream, maybe because I can’t sleep and totally crash when I hit the pillow.
I am just afraid to get my hopes up, but I still dream. I just fear that if she doesn’t get in this year, she may say screw it in the future.

#853 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 2:15 am

I feel the same Sunshinelvr, this is a home… And I love you too….

#854 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:17 am

#848 Sunshinelvr
What’s wrong with Carter? I really liked him and still do. He is a peaceful president and I respect that.
I was a little young to remember much else about his presidency, but why was he a bad president?

#855 NoMoreInFL on 09.11.08 at 2:18 am

With faith all things are possible…Hillary in 2008!

Good night…see you tomorrow or should I say in a few hours! :)

#856 greenfun on 09.11.08 at 2:18 am

Antifish…………………that is a beautiful dream. It brought tears to my eyes. Especially the sentimental part about feeding Dean’s b@lls to someone’s dog. Just a moment…..I need a tissue. I had a dream myself last night that Lorena Bobbit resurfaced and did a number on BO and Howie. Lord, it was gruesome too.

#857 Your northern neighbor on 09.11.08 at 2:18 am

Hi Laurey

I totally understand your feeling.
When compared to Obama, McCain who was handicaped right from the start in this race, so far has shown he is unqestionably the better candidate with better judgements. He out waited Obama on everything including the VP pick, and he can think outside of the box. Picking Palin as VP is a good example.

I cannot yet think of one thing that Obama did that
reflected good judgement.

I am not promoting McCain here, but he is our only path to defeat precious at this time.

Unless antifish’s dream come true of course.

#858 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:18 am

Before I go.

It is 9/11. Let us remember those innocent victims that died seven years ago at the hands of depraved murderers and keep their loved ones in our prayers.

Good night.

#859 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:19 am

#849 erickaAZ
We may not agree on all things ‘Clinton’ but we do agree on bozo being an @sshole of the largest.

#860 PumaRhythm on 09.11.08 at 2:19 am

#834 antifish Thanks antifish…..you know ….as I was watching the cheers go up today from that great croud for Sarah…..I kept thinking…thats what it should have been like for our Hillary…..it should be Hillary as POTUS.
I will never forgive the corrupt DNC and the MSM for taking that away from her…from us and from this country.
Thanks again Anti…..nite all.

#861 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:20 am

#856 antifish on 09.11.08 at 2:18 am

Before I go.

It is 9/11. Let us remember those innocent victims that died seven years ago at the hands of depraved murderers and keep their loved ones in our prayers.

Good night.
—–
Good night ((((anti)))), I am headed to bed too, night all. I hope it is a peaceful day in honor of all the people we lost and may karma come up and zap Bin Laden big time.

#862 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 2:21 am

he was very naive…in the way that *61 is..You can see the same things…They want peace AT ANY PRICE…and , as much as I would like that, too..you can’t lay down and let the tyrants of this world walk on you just to have peace…the economy was a shambles and carter told us to drive 55 and turn our thermostats down(to give him credit.doing THAT wasn’t such a bad thing) but he was just inept and made a lot of booboos which cost the country a lot ..

#863 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 2:22 am

NO experience…would be the same thing with this guy..IDEALISM>>>Not reality

#864 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:22 am

#854 greenfun on 09.11.08 at 2:18 am

Antifish…………………that is a beautiful dream. It brought tears to my eyes. Especially the sentimental part about feeding Dean’s b@lls to someone’s dog. Just a moment…..I need a tissue. I had a dream myself last night that Lorena Bobbit resurfaced and did a number on BO and Howie. Lord, it was gruesome too.
——————-
(((((((((greenie)))))))))))

:lol: :lol: :lol: Grab a tissue.

#865 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 2:23 am

remember, dreams are their name, but out votes, that is not the same. 61 thinks we have no strength, that we will submit. We shall shake his very being with our votes…. 61 shall be defeated, and it will be by our hands… ; )

#866 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:23 am

Bob-a-Bo Bobbit, not the Hobbit.

#867 YesSheCan on 09.11.08 at 2:24 am

Carter DID put solar panels on the Whitehouse, which Reagan promptly removed.

And the Camp David thing was a great effort.
And habitat for humanity is good.

Well, that’s all I can think of.

#868 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:25 am

greeeeeenie, you are like a huge pina colada in the Denver heat.

#869 BillieJo on 09.11.08 at 2:26 am

I am going to bed, I guess greenie came in, laid a funny and split….as always.
Where have you been girl?
I miss you and goandersen so much. We got anti back, now you too need to come back on.

#870 gina613 on 09.11.08 at 2:28 am

Foxnews website has an article saying Bill Clinton is going to campaign for Obama, for eight weeks leading up to the election.
Say it ain’t so! We need a prowl to President Clinton.

#871 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 2:29 am

nite nite BillyJo!!!

#872 greenfun on 09.11.08 at 2:29 am

Hi BillieJo

They are going nuts over at huffpo. I can’t stop laughing.
Arianna is in a big HUFF too. She wants BO to unleash some righteous anger. She wants him to show the fierce urgency of now. It is so hilarious.

#873 Your northern neighbor on 09.11.08 at 2:34 am

Hi antifish

Just to make sure that my #828 comment did not come across as making fun of your dream. I was only attempting to add to your dream with my own words, but my sense of humor is not the greatest. Hope I didn’t offend you or anyone else.

#874 greenfun on 09.11.08 at 2:37 am

Sorry Billiejo

I have been so dang busy, I have to check in here and my other usual haunts in a short amount of time. You know I have to do my valley girl. How the heck are you?

#875 storytellers on 09.11.08 at 2:40 am

good morning pumas

#876 erickaAZ on 09.11.08 at 2:41 am

All of my sisters and brothers, good night…. This puma is going to cirlce, lay, then sleep…. : D

#877 kat in your hat on 09.11.08 at 2:49 am

Hillary: “Media sexism?”

Well, she said she wouldn’t attack Sarah Palin.

Hillary Clinton, played it cool when pelted with questions asked about Sarah Palin on Capitol Hill today — deflecting her attacks to John McCain (as she promised to do) on his opposition to equal pay legislation.

And she didn’t seem terribly upset when asked about Jonathan Martin’s revelation that one of her best friends, a top fundraiser, had started a group to fight gender bias against Palin.

“Oh you’re kidding?” she joked, feigning surprise. “Media sexism?”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Hillary_Media_sexism.html#comments

#878 LaureyPuma on 09.11.08 at 2:49 am

I have been corresponding with a woman named Chelsea from NOW California for a couple of days now. However, I have a hunch she doesn’t think of me as a pen pal. For laughs I thought I would post my latest email to her:

Dear Chelsea,

I am confused about something. Please clarify. I received an email from you requesting women support Barack Obama because he is pro-women. Please explain how he is pro-women, because I am just not getting it. I mean the sexist, misogynist remarks from his campaign and supporters have me confounded. The latest today was the “Lipstick on a pig” fiasco. So how does his pro-women thing work exactly? Please do not insult my intelligence by explaining that his comment was taken out of context or misconstrued. We both know what he meant.

But the most perplexing thing about your position on this election is why you and Marcia Pappas, President of NOW, New York purport two different things. You might want to take a look at Marcia’s article entitled: WOMEN WHO LOVE THEIR PARTY TOO MUCH. It might be an eye opener for you – check it out.

Best,

Laurey XXXX
PUMA

#879 freddiebrown on 09.11.08 at 2:55 am

I was just watching the homecoming for Palin in Fairbanks – I believe it is live.. I must say, she still has it – It was an equally great speech and I can’t help but like her.

#880 freddiebrown on 09.11.08 at 3:16 am

Arianna Huffington – in Larry Kings interview today said that Palin is McCains Trojan MOOSE !! I don’t understand why the Democrats are so loose lipped these days. They keep putting their big foot in one after another. Could it be that they are taking the cue from Obama ?

#881 kat in your hat on 09.11.08 at 3:24 am

WATCH:

Obama Speech Plagiarizes a Political Cartoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qi0zbtzjjY&eurl=http://obamareport.blogspot.com/

#882 NewOrleansPuma on 09.11.08 at 4:18 am

TRISH FROM CANADA: I miss you!

#883 Notyoursweetie on 09.11.08 at 5:24 am

CBS tries to rescue Obama – twice in a day
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/obama-does-w-cbs-to-the-rescue/

#884 CommomSense12 on 09.11.08 at 5:29 am

Note to all great fellow PUMA team members…. The below has been approved to run in two major newspapers within the next 10 days. One is in PA, one in OHIO, and another in MAINE. I am signing it below here as CommonSense12.

Any and all PUMA folks are welcome to use any of this or all of this as you may want to.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

I AM SUPPORTING JOHN McCAIN AND SARAH PALIN, and here’s why.

On November 4th, Election Day, I will join millions of fellow Americans in “splitting” my vote. For President and Vice President, I will be voting for John McCain, and Sarah Palin. For congressional contests, both at the national level, and the state level, I will be voting for the Democratic Party nominee.

I am a strong supporter of the principles of the Democratic Party. We must continue to build up the strength of the Democratic majority in both the U.S. Senate, and House of Representatives.

Through this entire Presidential primary campaign journey, I was an avid supporter of Hillary Clinton. I felt she was the best qualified to be our next President. I was writing excellent material (as a volunteer) with excellent specifics, and with great success I will add in support of her candidacy for both on-line media, and print media all over the country, in whatever state was next to vote.

We came “close”. But, there was a flaw in the election process in that the voters who voted in Florida and Michigan did not have their votes counted, at the time of their vote. This allowed the non-elected “super-delegates” to come out of the woodwork, and follow the swooning masses in pledging their some 350-400 votes to Barack Obama. It was a close race to begin with, and the Hillary Clinton team couldn’t overcome that.

Also this primary election season should not have been about race, but the Obama campaign brought that up, and brought that into the equation. First, was early on in South Carolina, and then just recently when Mr. Obama reminded all Americans he didn’t look like all the other presidents on the dollar bills.

In my opinion, Mr. Obama may be a likable person, probably in the same way he once referred to Hillary Clinton in public, as “she’s likable enough”.

To my immediate subject, I have excerpted the flowing specific quotes from Mr. Obama’s recent acceptance speech on August 28th before 80,000 people in the Mile High Stadium in Denver, and that included an estimated 38 million viewers on TV, as he spoke between these two large grey styrofoam columns that came from “central staging” someplace.

From the speech: (A) “I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow”. (B) “I will cut taxes for 95 percent of all working families”. (C) “I will set a clear goal as president: in 10 years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East”. (D) “I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power”. (E) “I’ll help our auto companies retool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I’ll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars”. (F) “And I’ll invest $150 billion over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy — wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and 5 million new jobs that pay well and can’t ever be outsourced”. (G) “I’ll recruit an army of new teachers, and pay them higher salaries and give them more support”. (H) “Now is the time to help families with paid sick days and better family leave”. (I) “Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don’t, you’ll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves”. (J) “Many of these plans will cost money, which is why I’ve laid out how I’ll pay for every dime — by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens that don’t help America grow”.

Does anyone believe that Barack Obama could do all this, or even any of this? I don’t.

John McCain and Sarah Palin have real plans for real people, plans and specifics that I can believe in. They are all detailed on their website of http://www.JohnMcCain.com. On the site, start with the headings of “The Economy”, “Health Care”, “Education”, and keep going.

I’m voting for real people, people who can give me real plans – with specifics I can believe in, and don’t feel they have to deliver it with a booming hyped up oratory given between styrofoam columns before a fawning mass of 80,000 people. Just give it to me in straight talk. That’s all I need. Thank you.

Signed: Common Sense 12

#885 CommomSense12 on 09.11.08 at 5:47 am

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Barack-Obama-Unexamined/dp/1596985666/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221125993&sr=8-1

David Freddoso ….”The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate (Hardcover)
by David Freddoso (Author)

Suggest all PUMA folks check this out on Amazon.com. I just bought a copy. It was only $15.37 plus shipping. Looks good. Recommended by Jennifer Rubin in her article on http://www.RealClearPolitics.com titled “The Ten Ways Sarah Palin Has Shaken Up the Race”

Thank you.
Common Sense 12

#886 utahpuma on 09.11.08 at 6:31 am

gogandalf – you have email

#887 prowlland on 09.11.08 at 6:46 am

I think it is fitting that we watch this again today !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEeHl0h3NBo&eurl=http://www.puma08.com/

#888 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 6:57 am

Not sure if this has been posted….Commentary: It’s not Hillary’s role to attack Sarah Palin

….I can’t vote for you because we are on the opposite side of the issues. I don’t vote for people just because they have a uterus…..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/condon.palin/index.html

#889 slyt2 on 09.11.08 at 6:58 am

Good morning, Was watching morning joe and Joe said BO has let Sarah Palin get into his head just like he let Hillary get in his head after she started winning Texas,Ohio and they said that’s why he is messing up bad now. So there you go Sarah you got in his head , set up camp there and don’t leave.. I’m loving it.

#890 bythelake on 09.11.08 at 7:02 am

9-11-01…

We Remember…

God Bless America…

And all the lives it affected…

#891 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 7:04 am

Good Morning Pumas! This is a very symbolic day for all of us. There is not much I can say, but I know that I will be reminded of shock, pain, anger, and hurt. To any of you that lost family or friends during 9/11, my heart and soul goes out to you. My prayers to everyone.

#892 Headclunker on 09.11.08 at 7:21 am

#887slyt2

BO has an obsessive hostility towards women. Misogynist.

#893 MamaPuma on 09.11.08 at 7:22 am

Good Morning PUMAs

This is a sacred day of remembrance and we should stop and send out our best grace to those who lost loved ones on 9/11.

We should also cherish this day and live it to the fullest.

We should also rededicate ourselves to our work as PUMAs. We are the good guys.

Yesterday Murphy sent you 2 prowls. Make sure that you do both of them!!!

Mama

#894 utahpuma on 09.11.08 at 7:29 am

September 11th will truly be remembered for generations to come. I can recall that day vividly. How terrible for the families and friends to be reminded all over again. They are surely in my prayers today.

Remembering 9/11 today and relating it to current events just makes me so mad.

According to reports, we are losing the battle in Afghanistan. The new leader doesn’t want us doing anything inside the border without notifying them, and there is a problem with leaks to the enemy within their government.

Isn’t Obie’s committee involved? The one he doesn’t have time for. So much for leadership. He should be on top of this instead of worrying about Palin.

#895 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.11.08 at 7:32 am

Why is Kenya so interested in “one of their own” being president of OUR UNITED STATES?!

WE CAN’T LET THIS HAPPEN. SO MUCH IS AT STAKE! TAKE HEART AND CONTINUE STANDING TOGETHER PUMAS. Don’t let them divide us.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080911/ts_nm/usa_politics_kenya_dc

Low-level crime is common in the east African country, which was rocked by post-election violence at the start of this year.

But the interest of many Kenyans is now focused on the chances of the Democratic Party’s candidate in the neck-and-neck U.S. presidential poll in eight weeks time.

Obama was born in Hawaii to a white American mother and a Kenyan father, and he is idolized by many Kenyans as one of their own who has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

A survey this week showed 89 percent of Kenyans were rooting for him, versus 3 percent for his Republican rival John McCain.

#896 hoosiermike on 09.11.08 at 7:39 am

Good morning PUMAs.

As a firefighter, this day holds a special meaning for me as I think back to this very morning 7 years ago and remember seeing hundreds of service men and women enter those towers to never come back out.

This day is a special one for all of us. Let’s be kind to each other today, and any time we start to think things are bad–think back to the hell we were all going through 7 years ago on this morning. The fear, the sorrow and the anger.

These days, it seems that the mention of 9/11 is taken for granted all too many times, and it’s become almost cliche to talk about. But we have to remember that America and her cititzens were under attack, for real, and we have to make sure that it doesn’t happen again.

Lets not let this day, and its history and distinctiveness, become cliche to us. We were there–all of our hearts ached.

Everyone have a great day.

#897 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:40 am

Mornin’ Pumas . Today is the day that we , in the words of Mother Jones ,” Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living !”
Remember our fallen Americans today as we continue our fight for justice and Democracy in this country we love .

#898 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 7:46 am

Gypsy – It’s gettin ugly out there …. Galveston mayor said she wasn’t going to evacuate those folks … This morning they are saying it will hit as a 3 or 4 .. I think they are turning 37 into a ‘contra flow” (one way out ) to San Antonio – that’s by you right ?

#899 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 7:50 am

#896 TexasTigress We could be called to evacuate, but right now it is Galveston that is a mandatory evacuation. This will be closer to you? San Antonio is always used to help in evacuations, but hopefully, the people will go more north or west from here.

#900 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 7:56 am

#896 TexasTigress Ike is going to be ugly no matter where it lands! Am nervous, but like I said, I’m committed. Prayers to everyone in Ike’s path.

#901 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:02 am

Gypsy – Here , we get the evacuees from NO and Houston – unless it hits north of Houston , then they have to head farther up 59 . I volunteer when we have evacuees , and this last bunch from New orleans duirng Gustav was just really tough …
We didn’t get a lot of damage from Katrina , but Rita’s path left us without power for 2 weeks . I have 16 hunderd + year old pecan trees that aren’t fond of the wind , but I only worry about my big old babies out there in the pasture . They get into the barn , but I don’t it’s an old barn … Oh well , we’ll just pray and help whoever we can , right ? :)

#902 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:07 am

Gypsy , is there still that little Mexican ‘square’ off the river walk with that little restaurant that has the outside tables and pink flamingos on the walls ? They have the best Margaritas in the whole US ! :) When I was at Lackland for USMC – MP school , I practically LIVED downtown … I LOVE that city !!! :)

#903 zephyr on 09.11.08 at 8:07 am

#832 PumaRhythm….so nice that you could attend the McCain/Palin rally yesterday in Fairfax! I was hoping to but couldn’t make it. Heard 23,000 showed up. Not bad for a last minute shindig!

#904 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:08 am

(((zephyr))) Mornin” !

#905 utahpuma on 09.11.08 at 8:09 am

Back in July, ABC news did an indepth article on who attended meetings on Afghanistan, including Obama McCain, Biden and others

Here’s the link for anyone who is interested

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/hearing-gate-ex.html

#906 utahpuma on 09.11.08 at 8:12 am

I forgot to add:

Obama chairs the European Affairs Subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which has oversight of military operations in Afghanistan.

#907 ladyhawkke on 09.11.08 at 8:15 am

Good morning.

Hillary will be attending a reception for Sheila Jackson Lee on September 21st in Houston Texas and they need your help! This is no ordinary fundraiser…

There appears to be an all out effort on to oust representatives that supported Hillary from their congressional seats. Sheila is one of them.

Big money players are supporting Sheila’s opponent and really putting the heat on. The “politics of personal destruction” is their game. The smear campaign is in full swing.

Sheila stood with Hillary though her entire primary run and received threats, intimidation and namecalling just for supporting her. This kind of behavior can not be rewarded! Please come to her defense by attending this Houston fundraiser.

If you can’t be there, please consider donating to her campaign.

JOIN HILLARY IN HOUSTON, SEPT 21, 1.30 PM

Invitation (Please RSVP):

http://www.sheilajacksonlee18.com

In the Message box, please type “HOST: ANN MacNAUGHTON”.

Donate To Shiela Jackson Lee’s Campaign

It is important that Hillary keeps as many of her friends as possible in office to help carry out her work for the American people…us!

Please support Sheila if you can.

Pam
Clinton Dems
PUMA
Keep Fighting!

“Without courage you cannot practice any of the other virtues.”

~ Maya Angelou

#908 ladyhawkke on 09.11.08 at 8:19 am

Please spread the word to everyone you know in the Bay State!!!

Voters in Massachusetts have a rare opportunity to knock off John Kerry, one of the most audacious, cynical supporters of Barack Obama, against the interests and votes of his constituents.

Next Tuesday, September 16, in the Democratic primary, MA voters have a chance to vote for Ed O’Reilly who is courageous enough to take on Kerry. Please let everyone you know in Massachusetts that this is a way to send a direct message to Kerry and the DNC that they:
1) made a grievous error in shoving aside Hillary Clinton, the electable Democrat for President, and 2) that we will find ways, such as voting for O’Reilly, to express our disgust that they have robbed us of our opportunity to take back the White House with the best Democratic candidate of our generation, Hillary Clinton.

So, flick off, Kerry.

GO GO GO!!!
Ricki Lieberman
• Debate: Kerry finally agreed to debate O’Reilly for all of 20 minutes. You can watch it at: http://wbztv.com/video/?id=66544@wbz.dayport.com
• Belmont Citizen-Herald Endorses Ed O’Reilly: Excerpts from the endorsement: “….voters should also be incensed by the arrogance of power shown by the incumbent” and “….what difference does seniority make when you’re flat out wrong?”
• Website: http://www.edoreilly.com/

#909 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 8:22 am

TexasTigress Yes, many of the original River Walk and Market Square stores, restaurants, etc. are still there!! Yeah, margaritas – my favorite.

#910 zephyr on 09.11.08 at 8:24 am

(((((TexasTigress))))) Good Morning to you!!! I have been lurking for a few days….mostly busy emailing “feminist” friends who drank the kool-aide and countering all the viral emails floating around about SP.

Stay safe there with Ike!!!!
Will keep you and others in it’s path in prayer.

And a special thanks to all our firefighters and others who may have suffered personal loss during the 9/11 attacks.

Pumas…if you ever get discouraged….REMEMBER our country is worth protecting from the likes of NOBO.

#911 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 8:25 am

900 TexasTigress My former spouse of 25 yrs (??) retired AF – military police CMSgt!

#912 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:27 am

Mornin!

Waiting for the coffee to rehydrate my brain..

#913 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 8:29 am

903 utahpumaMaybe he missed them because he went there in person to get the information directly from the Generals. ? :lol:

#914 ladyhawkke on 09.11.08 at 8:33 am

#830 NoMoreInFL I’m reposting this website. What do you think? I know fact check is connected to Obama. I can’t seem to shake off the feeling that he actually has something he is presenting that they will accept whether fake or not.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

#915 vadaryl on 09.11.08 at 8:39 am

Has anybody got a link that has a picture of Hillary taken in the last few days. I heard from a lot of people that she looks horrible.

#916 mimi1020 on 09.11.08 at 8:40 am

#912 ladyhawkke

Sorry, I for one, do not believe it. As we have been following the progress of texasdarlin, tech dude and other sources, I believe completely that this COB is a fake and now hopefully with Phil Berg on the case, maybe we can get some straight answers from the Oblahma camp. Which, by the way, has not fought to have the law suite dismissed, which leaves me with no doubt.

He is NOT qualified to be Potus.

and yes, factcheck is totally in the tank for *61

#917 vadaryl on 09.11.08 at 8:42 am

Phillip Berg has filed new papers on Obama, all the info is on http://www.obamacrimes.com/

#918 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:43 am

909 1gypsy4mc How cool about your husband !!! I went through K-9 school at Lackland after Mp school so I got to spend a LOT of time there – Love that city :)

#919 GoHillaryGo on 09.11.08 at 8:45 am

#65 freddiebrown on 09.10.08 at 6:46 pm Just curious – not to get side tracked… would you guys vote for Obama if Hillary was thrown back on the VP bus ? You never know,, Biden might just suddenly have to check into Alcoholics Anon. because he still has a slight problem after the death of his first wife.

I know I won’t. NEVER. I hope Hillary will not lose her dignity to be used by this man in the name of Unity.
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This would be very difficult for me. I hope I do not have to face the choice.

I also have noticed Biden using too much alcohol. He is on Youtube drunk. A real shame. A simple sober up will just not do for a president. This is a major issue. In no way should America allow a President to be BRAIN IMPAIRED BY ALCOHOL AND OR DRUGS. I would like to see MSA cover this issue. The MSM has really let the public down big time on this election.

I think on my decision if I were forced to make one. I would go with unity with PUMA. It is in UNITY that my vote really has some strength. I am sure it would get discussed here and I would go along with the discussion. For now I prefer to skip this hypothetical.

I am not sure that removing Biden as a drunk and replacing with Hillary will win for Obama anyway. It might destroy the entire Dem Party. Remember most Obama bots do not like Hillary.

#920 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 8:46 am

910 Caracal Carrie Mornin’ Care , the site is looking GREAT !

#921 Caracal Carrie on 09.11.08 at 8:49 am

Thanks Texas!

I am trying to decide what section to leap into this mornin.

#922 vadaryl on 09.11.08 at 8:50 am

I am reading some info on the papers that were filed and I see on one file that says:

Plaintiff’s Motion for Extensive Discovery is GRANTED

Does this mean the court has accepted what Phil has files and Obama has to respond.

I am looking at this link:

http://obamacrimes.com/attachments/015_ObamaMotExpedDdiscovery09082008Pacer.pdf

#923 Henerietta on 09.11.08 at 8:54 am

I received the following from a KY delegate that I had written to before the convention. I replied and thanked her for her service. It would be nice if other PUMAS would do the same.

MBDec@aol.com

Sorry I did not get back to you before the convention. I take my e-mail seriously and try to respond to all. I was overwhelmed by hundreds of e-mails in support of Hillary. I want you to know that kept my word and voted for Hillary despite strong pressure to do otherwise..

Moretta Bosley
Kentucky

#924 1gypsy4mc on 09.11.08 at 9:01 am

916 TexasTigress The museum there should have a set of the clothing, etc. given to the POWs before being released from Hanoi Hilton were from us. But, I have the photos from their return!!! From them leaving Hanoi, their plane trip and arrival at Clarke AFB, Phillipines. The ones with Alvarez and McCain!!! The “dirt bag” retired as Senior Enlisted Advisor – Randolph AFB.

#925 vadaryl on 09.11.08 at 9:02 am

I just found a mistake, Obama has to respond by Sept. 31, there is only 30 days in September.

#926 GoHillaryGo on 09.11.08 at 9:05 am

#920 vadaryl on 09.11.08 at 8:50 am I am reading some info on the papers that were filed and I see on one file that says:

Plaintiff’s Motion for Extensive Discovery is GRANTED

Does this mean the court has accepted what Phil has files and Obama has to respond.

I am looking at this link:

http://obamacrimes.com/attachments/015_ObamaMotExpedDdiscovery09082008Pacer.pdf
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This is BIG TIME IMPORTANT.

What it means is that Berg case is going to go forward at full speed. The Judge is basically accepting the lawsuit and Obama is going to have to defend fully. It says that Berg is going to get full powers to force Obama to answer all questions and supply all documents he might ask for. DISCOVERY means Berg can ask questions and Obama has to answer them.

They set a date which seems a bit slow for Obama to have a depostion is Sept 31. At that time he will have to sit in a office with a steno person recording all words. lawyers on both sides will be present. Berg will get to ask ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS HE WANTS OF OBAMA AND OBAMA WILL HAVE TO ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS UNDER OATH. Extensive Discovery seems to mean the judge will allow wide latitude on questions.

this can be a major set back for obama.

The expidited discovery means the judge is not going to allow lots of delays. Obama will have to do things or he is in trouble. He has to bring his birth certificate.

NOW MOST IMPORTANT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH WHICH OBAMA HAS TRIED TO PAWN OFF. NO WONDER OBAMA IS ATTACKING PALIN. HE IS RATTLED.

OMG he has to bring a certified copy of his oath of allegiance which I am sure he never did. Obama might be dumped by the judge. this is incredible. this is huge. Obama had better have things or the judge will dump him from being president. Obama has big big problem now.

#927 shampoovta on 09.11.08 at 9:06 am

Good Mourning Pumas

911

:(

#928 TexasTigress on 09.11.08 at 9:06 am

Gypsy – That is sooooooooo cool that you have those pictures !!!!!

#929 murphy on 09.11.08 at 9:08 am

Morning All,

Today is a new day and the smell of burnt toast gets stronger.

Yes, I find I must indulge my schadenfreude regarding Obama’s meltdown. Otherwise I’d be in the corner with a bottle until 2012.

Feel free to repost comments in the new thread.

Take it upstairs!

#930 Sunshinelvr on 09.11.08 at 9:09 am

921 Henerietta…

I sent this–because I agree with you..sorry about the capitalization errors..forgot to proofread it..watching the memorials with eyes and heart full of tears..we must NEVER forget ..

Ms Bosely;

Thank-you for keeping your word and casting your vote for hillary clinton.America needs more up-standing, courageous people just like you! may you have continued success in your life and work.

Thank-you again.
——–my name–
Puma Pac Democrat

#931 GoHillaryGo on 09.11.08 at 9:17 am

HOLY COWS. IT KEEPS GOING ON. HE HAS TO PRESENT INCREDIBLE DOCUMENTATION IN 10 DAYS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS IN 20 DAYS THEN BERG WILL GET A CHANCE TO INVESTIGATE THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THE DEPOSITION.

THERE IS ALMOST NO WAY HE CAN GET ALL THESE DOCUMENTS. HE IS IN BIG BIG TROUBLE. BERG CAN KILL HIM IN QUESTIONING UNLESS HE HAS REAL GOOD DOCUMENTATION.

OBAMA BETTER BE ON THE LEVEL OR THIS JUDGE IS NOT GOING TO LISTEN.

OBAMA DEPENDING ON EVIDENCE COULD WIND UP BEING HELD FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES IF HE LIED ON ANYTHING. FOR EXAMPLE IT IS CLAIMED THAT ON HIS ENTRANCE APPLICATION TO COLUMBIA HE CLAIMED HE WAS A FOREIGN STUDENT AND NOT AMERICAN. NOT SURE IF THAT IS TRUE BUT HE WILL HAVE TO PRESENT THE DOCUMENTS. THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

#932 texassherry on 09.11.08 at 9:18 am

Good Morning.

You guys have to watch this. It brought tears to my eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

#933 prplvette85 on 09.11.08 at 9:30 am

Good Morning Puma’s. Lot’s of prayers going out today. I pray for our Texas Puma’s to be safe and sheltered from the storm. I pray for all the families that lost loved one’s on 9/11. I pray that our Puma families have the endurance, strength, wisdom, and success of our goal to defeat obama.

#934 jane-pa on 09.11.08 at 10:11 am

Sherry where did this one come from? Could you send it to Hannity? Would be a big move I feel. Thanks

#935 jane-pa on 09.11.08 at 10:12 am

931 Finally

#936 valleywitch on 09.15.08 at 3:52 am

:arrow: Hi, first let me say I’m sorry I forgot to sign my post last night, :oops: Second, Murphy I’m glad you are back,perhaps civility will return with you. :D I started to write about my feelings tonight, but I am too angry and disappointed, I could write a book and would be here all night. Let me just say I miss seeing BlueJay here today, and hope s/he’s back tomorrow. And know this, I joined PUMA to support Hillary, and to defeat Precious, how I do that is still up to me, I still own my vote, and I still believe if we don’t learn from his/herstory, we are doomed to repeat it. It’s obvious we have not learned.How we care for Mother Earth determines whether or not we will have one at all, so please, take a few minutes and think about your stewardship, what are you teaching your young ones about conservation of resources? Or perhaps, like Reagan, you feel that ‘if you’ve seen one Redwood(Cedar, Fir, Pine Spruce,etc) you’ve seen them all’ and we don’t need them anymore. I am going to quit now before I say something I might regret. Going to shut down and go to bed, tomorrow is another day, and maybe, since Murphy is back, I’ll even get some mail.
blessings to all, stay safe.
valeywitch, letting off a little steam!

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