The storms have passed; the sky is clear. Dances and others have designed several marvelous new Puma PAC flyers. They, along with the embarrassment of linky riches Pumas have collected since Friday night, will soon be available in our lovely ACTION CENTER.
Until then, please right click on the image below and download it as our first new flyer to print from home. Challenge yourself to distribute 50 flyers today. Grocery store carriages, public restrooms, seats on buses, senior centers, community bulletin boards, the possibilities are endless. Mail them to your friends. Mail them to 50 people in Pennsylvania. (You do know that PA is the Puma Keystone this year, right? Take a look at this righteous website, 270 To Win, to play Electoral Bingo all afternoon — no, wait! do that after you distribute the flyers!)
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Goodmorning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey….is this thing working? ::::::tap tap tap:::::::::
testing 1,2,3…
Good morning Dances!
lol They are still dwonstairs
This a repost from below. Helping others brings dignity to everyone.
The following is completely off topic. I heard last night that relief charities (Red Cross, Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, etc.) are hurting for donations due to all the natural disasters that occurred this year–tornadoes, flooding, hurricanes, fires. If you have a few extra dollars please consider donating to the one of your choice. When I was in high school, our town was hit by a tornado and I remember the Salvation Army giving us food and drink as we were clearing debris from a farmer’s field. They were a silent support force that kept us working longer and harder.
oh whew… thought I was still dreaming.
Good morning, cjv
647 Middle age female I agree with you – possibly they have been bought off or “something.” Can we believe our government is looking out for us? Does it take many voices to be heard before someone listens? Just scares the Heck out of me!! Always has!!
That kite photo looks like it could be from the Berkeley, CA marina kite fields, with the (green) Berkeley hills in the background to the, pardon the expression, right.
Should we go back downstairs and get them?
repost from below
Article from January- I’d really like to see a condom with Baracks name on it. lol
“Democrats Abroad Indonesia has been trying to register as many members as possible before the vote, and has found a novel technique — distributing official party condoms with a suggestive slogan.”
http://www.thebalitimes.com/2008/01/26/barack-obamas-edge-in-indonesia/
REPOST – Ballots were sent from Denver to DC last week and are “under review”. Please Fax Letters !
TRACK DELEGATE VOTES
I spoke to Alice Germond who told me to request the information from the State DNC. Here is a letter:
September 6, 2008
Karen L. Thurmon
Chairperson, Florida Democratic Party
214 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, FL 32301
Fax: 850-222-0916
Subject: DNC Convention Vote of Florida Delegates, August 27, 2008
Dear Ms. Thurmon:
I am a registered Florida voter and I am requesting the Florida Democratic Vote Count, by Delegate, for the Democratic Presidential Nominee, August 27, 2008 at the DNC Convention. I would like the results of the original ballot of each delegate as well as the final vote registered. It is my understanding, from Alice Germond at the DNC, that I should request this from my State DNC and that you could get this information if you did not already have it.
I prefer the Democratic Platforms and would like to elect Democrats to office. However, the inconsistent rules that appear to have been in play this Presidential Primary have given me some doubts about what is going on in the Party. This is a critical election and it seemed like people were playing games with the Florida Votes. I would like to be able to vote for Democratic Candidates as an informed voter.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Yours Truly,
XXX
CC: Alice Germond, DNC Secretary, 430 South Capital Street, SE, Washington, DC 20003 (Fax: 202-863-8174)
Sorry Gloria….No Way No How No Obama…..
THANK YOU GLORIA…WE’LL HANDLE IT FROM HERE.
Glad I didn’t tune in…would of just triggered a Migrane Headache.
Our goals MUST NOT CHANGE!!!!! People keep reposting pleas to give recommendations for PUMAs and any one they can convert to start getting busy to derail Obama.
I live in Pa, an undecided state. I will definitely be voting for McCain/Palin. I am a single Mom, a medical professional business owner with two offices I run by myself….I can definitely relate to Palin…this makes my choice easier>
I did most of my campaign work for HRC after hours because of my schedule, and I intend to do the same for McCain.
Today I will register to volunteer for their campaign and for voting day 11/4!
FORGET GLORIA…WHO? Just another surrogate PAID/I mean SENT by BO “Not For America” to sway voters.
OMFG. pardonez my frenchay, but I was just looking through the collected links that Dances culled from all of the Puma comments since Friday, and
HOLY SMOKESERONI!!
We have an AMAZING treasury of references. It’s almost so good I dont want to share it outside of Puma PAC.
Just Kidding!
But seriously Folks — this is going to be GREAT!
I am so pleased and proud of us.
I know this is off subject, but “commnity organizer’
on wikepedia
1940 to 1960
Saul Alinsky, a Chicago Marxist, actually originated the term “community organizer” during this time period. Alinksy is the author of two books, one of them “Rules for Radicals,” the other his earlier “Reveille for Radicals.” “Rules” was published in 1971, has been the bible of the radical movement since the 70s
let me ask you something, are the KKK’s community organizers, just curious, i hate their group, but are they community organzers
Well, I could have been first as there were no comments when I arrived and that was due to the fact that my computer froze when I clicked on a link downstairs. Then I certainly could have made on the top 10, but I ‘m not to keen on being in the forefront, I prefer to be in the background.
headclunker wins the Daily Puma PAC PROWL Prize!
thank you Headclunker!!
From a down post
#638 Seattlegirl – I hope you are able to get over your mother’s demise. Please accept my condolences.
I always believe that if you have the government and the institutions dictate what you need to do in terms of your personal health and when it is a dole out then it sure is not on your side of the court. In my book all “Benefits” are exactly benefits for the other side be it companies, organizations etc. And before I go back to my lurk mode this situation is a direct reflection of malpractice suits and all the charges that medical professionals have to endure just to be on the right side. Imagine a world when doctors could be just that without them fearing the lawsuit guys.
Geez Murphy, can I speak for all PUMA that we all are so pleased and proud of you?
And Dances, you are terrific in your efforts, it deserves applause!
MURPHY
We have an AMAZING treasury of references. It’s almost so good I dont want to share it outside of Puma PAC.
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Too bad we don’t have password protection for the Action Center. I don’t know…just hate to see the countercreeps feed off of all the PUMAs contributions to the AC.
A poem from Barack Obama
UNDERGROUND
Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18poems.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
CJV:
I think it is safe too say that all PUMAS would be proud to have you speak for them on that topic.
#20
is senator obama writing that poem maybe describing democratic headquarters?
morning all Have been reading back. I would like to see that Columbo as a half or full page ad. What say you?? I loved it and thanks so much for it.
I will stay in lurk and I think password not good for Action. I think lurkers also do action work. Just my thoughts. The show last night was an eye opener and offensive I think.After being told not to speak of our choices I thought it over the edge. Sorry not trying to offend just my thought. I will now stay in lurk mode and dont put them down,I think a lot there are working hard.Thanks Murphy for the great job and be safe.Tcb4n
Last question Murphy do you intend to do ads> or such.I wish something before Nov. 4th could be done so after it would be easier to fix or generate new party. I will still be helping all I can.
I missed where the 10.00 a month came in but I am doing 20. maybe others could to for those that cannt. Just an idea thanks.
This is very simple. HILLARY was SCREWED and so were we!
Hi Pumas – wasn’t feeling so well yesterday so I missed the radio show last nite – after reading here and over at RD’s, guess I didn’t miss much – there are so many phonies – pu
Just heard on faux news that the Nat’l Inquirer is coming out with an article about Palin that says she had an affair with a friend of her husband – I’m taking a wait & see on this – just because they were correct about Edwards doesn’t mean they know anything especially since it was revealed that alot of people knew about Edwards and kept their mouths shut – don’t know why – becuz of Elizabeth & how did that help?
Anyway, feeling better so am back…………………….
HeHe. I just had the pleasure again, to send a solicitation for money from BO and the DNC back with my personal messages.
I included some Puma fake cash and a copy of The Denver Group’s latest “Boss Tweed” principles before Party ad. And to return in it in their postage paid envelope – priceless!
Read Cannonfire. Read it now.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
via Riverdaughter, natch.
Fox News this am did a segment on Michigan voter fraud and said ACORN members were reporting other ACORN members for wrong doing..the newsperson mentioned there are many,many fraud investigations going on throughout the country. An official from Michigan was being interviewed. Hope this grows ‘legs’ and starts hitting the networks.
Also, mystery surrounding BO Columbia University days..vague reference only in his self-love bios..can’t obtain records..hmmmm …Bob Beckel trying his darndest to defend BO, it didn’t seem to be working.
Last, National Enquirer coming out Monday with expose on Sarah..affair with her husbands business partner…we can only hope they throw a libel suit against the NE pronto…why didn’t they report on John Edwards as soon as they ‘knew’ it?? Same old, same old…lets get the girl. She probably made soooo many enemies in both parties, the knives are out and false smears are surely to fly.
SIGN UP FOR OBAMA CAMP
This is an email I received yesterday from Obama campaign:
Dear Friend –
I wanted to get in touch with you again about the upcoming Camp Obama sessions we’re holding in Illinois.
As you might have heard, John McCain and his Republican surrogates used their convention to attack Barack and disparage his work as a community organizer.
What they don’t get is that ordinary people working together built this movement for change and will lead our campaign to victory in November.
That’s why we’ve had such an amazing response to our Camp Obama sessions so far.
Supporters of all ages and backgrounds, some new to politics and some seasoned veterans, have expressed tremendous enthusiasm for the opportunity to learn the basic organizing principles of this movement and become Deputy Field Organizers in battleground states.
We can’t do this without you, and there is still time to sign up. Learn more and apply for a Camp Obama session now.
Thanks,
Steve
Steve Hildebrand
Deputy Campaign Manager
Obama for America
—–Original Message—–
From: Jon Carson
Subject: Sign up for Camp Obama in Illinois
Dear Friend,
I want to tell you about an exciting program we’re launching in Illinois. It’s called Camp Obama.
During this two-day session, people like you will be taking their support for this movement to the next level by learning the organizing principles that this campaign and our movement for change are built on.
Camp Obama attendees will receive real world organizing experience that will have a direct impact on this election. Graduates of Camp Obama will go on to become Deputy Field Organizers who will lead this campaign to victory in crucial battleground states around the country.
Find out more about this exciting opportunity to take a leadership role in this movement for change.
By participating in Camp Obama, you’ll get the kind of experience that Barack got as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, where he learned that real change happens from the bottom up.
That experience transformed Barack’s life and made him who he is today.
Camp Obama is your chance to put those very same principles into action — to win this election and to strengthen democracy in communities around the country.
After completing the program, you’ll be required to work as a Deputy Field Organizer in a battleground state where you’ll be organizing supporters and helping lead our grassroots Get Out The Vote operation.
Apply for a spot at a Camp Obama near you and become a leader in our movement for change:
http://il.barackobama.com/CampObamaIL
This campaign relies on the passion and enthusiasm of ordinary supporters, but it needs leaders who can organize those supporters and turn their enthusiasm into votes on Election Day.
Camp Obama is your chance to step up and become a leader in this movement.
Thanks,
Jon
Jon Carson
National Field Director
Obama for America
Thursday, September 04, 2008
DNC releases total delegate vote
* Barack Obama: 3188.5
* Hillary Clinton: 1010.5
With the split in the Democratic Party (Clinton Voters) and the split in the Republican Party (Paul Voters) … this is the first year we have a chance to do something different altogether and send an entirely different message to the two major parties. Instead of voting for McCain/Palin, please consider voting instead for an Independent party candidate … for example, the Libertarian party candidate, Bob Barr. That’s what I intend to do and I’m trying to get other Clinton and Paul voters to do the same. Given that they robbed us of our delegates and our nominees, wouldn’t it be interesting to not only thumb our noses at the two major parties, but also rob both of them of the Presidential race in 2008. Spread the word … vote Libertarian … vote for Bob Barr!
Camp Obama ..scary in the extreme.
Every vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Barack Obama..period. A vote for Nader would take a vote from Obama..our main goal here to defeat BO.
#30 No! oh that is NO THANK YOU!
This is a wonderful video. hope you like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
UNITED WE STAND
D I V I D E D WE F A L L
Steve Hildebrand?
Whole Earth Catalogue, Steve Hildebrand?
Whole Earth Excess, Steve Hildebrand? or was it Brands?
Anyway… I’m off to luxuriate in non-computer related stuff.
cjv, nice of you to say. Thanks.
I am still suspect of the media….THE WAR they pushed with never investigating anything the WH claimed, the congress and house had very few who questioned??? the ones who did were poo pooed…wtf?????
The MSM was silent.
After the fact they all claimed that they were TOLD to go along…so many “journalist” LIED to us…is this happening again? Is the fix in really to deep seated to find out is it Dem’s or repubs behind the curtain???
To let everyone know if you are in SEPA or SCPA then John McCain will be speaking in Lancaster with Gov Palin. Wether you intend on voting for them or not, it is great to wear your Hillary pride stuff to, and they wont throw you out!
NoBama is the main thing here. Whoever we do vote for, we will have to live with as individuals. The simple fact is that voting for BO’s leading opponent gives you double impact.
#11 Thanks Headclunker
I am a Florida Voter and will send a copy of that letter over my signature tomorrow.
Hello again PUMAs! You nocturnal hunters were asleep mostly when I first logged on. Glad to see you!
PRINCETON, NJ — The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.
Murphy I hate to burst everyone’s bubble, but Kilkenny is a Democrat elitist and supposedly has an “axe” to grind with Palin. Just google it.
Good morning Pumas,
Here is an email I received from the New Agenda, for your reading pleasure.
I also sent more emails to NOW and Emily’s List. I did my prowl to Hillary, on Friday – I guess I was thinking ahead.
Senator Harry Reid
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Dear Senator Reid,
The New Agenda (www.thenewagenda.net), a non-partisan women’s rights advocacy group with men and women members nationwide, recognizes the history-making selection of Governor Sarah Palin as Senator John McCain’s running mate. As Governor Palin hits the campaign trail, The New Agenda members will serve as watch dogs monitoring news coverage and statements by political pundits, campaign surrogates, and other commentators for any sexist bias.
The New Agenda strongly objects to your press secretary’s characterization of Governor Sarah Palin’s speech last night as “shrill.” The New Agenda believes that Mr. Manley’s use of this word was intentionally meant to degrade and belittle Governor Palin because she is a female candidate.
Mr. Manley’s remarks are not a positive reflection on you or your leadership. The New Agenda requests an immediate public apology to Governor Palin by yourself and your press secretary, Mr. Manley.
As we all know, the word “shrill” has a very negative connotation when used to describe a woman or a woman’s voice. The term shrill has recently been used by the media as a purposeful weapon against female candidates, although never male candidates.
The word “shrill” was used to characterize Hillary Clinton. We call your attention to two examples:
On a Hardball panel February 10, 2008, former Rep. Joe Scarborough asserted that “there is a shrillness in Hillary that comes out on TV whenever she gets excited about something.” He then added, “every time her voice goes up she gets very shrill”
An article in New York Magazine on February 25, 2008, called Senator Clinton “terrifyingly shrill.”
Senator Reid, folks across our fine country are still aghast and upset by the treatment that Senator Clinton endured from the media, as well as from her own party, during the primary season. The Democratic Party has for years held itself up as the party of equality. As such, The New Agenda is especially troubled that a person in a leadership role in the Party would use a degrading and belittling term like “shrill” against a qualified female candidate running for public office. Issues are fair game. Sexist treatment is no longer fair game.
Sincerely,
The New Agenda
sandtraps — nice to see you!
do you have a link?
re#36
don’t forget the media is big business and has corporate owners who have other investments tied in with the defense industries..reporters are workers and have jobs they don’t want to lose..
the media isn’t as free as you think..
1gypsy#41 — enlighten me — who is Kilkenny?
#30 blogginrock
With all due respect to you as a person, that is not what we need to do as a group. Until the Independent Party becomes a power player and gets to participate equally in debates, caucuses, campaign finance, etc., the only ones we’d be thumbing our noses at would be ourselves! I did not come this far and endure this much frustration to turn around and punt when I’m in the red zone ( it’s game time and I’ll mix metaphors inevitably).
Did you see the post about Camp Obama? We need to march. Forward. In step. Together.
I need to hand these flyers and do something productive now. Thank you for allowing me to respond to you.
bobram on 09.07.08 at 1:08 pm Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%
McCain enjoying increase in support following convention
September 7, 2008John McCain has moved ahead of Barack Obama in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking, 48% to 45%, following last week’s Republican convention
Today gallup http://www.gallup.com/poll/110050/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Moves-Ahead-48-45.aspx
murphy She is mentioned on Cannonfire’s blogspot. This story is all over the net, but it does not say that she is a Democrat elitist. There’s much more to the story, but one would have to check it out for themselves. I read all of Cannonfire’s articles and it was good though. Thanks
Read Willi’s World in today’s SF Chronicle — he’s the inimitable former mayor of SF and down-home political genius.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/06/BALU12OCMV.DTL
via riverdaughter, via anglachel
thanks sandtraps!
thanks gypsy — looking now.
“McCain’s 48% share of the vote ties for his largest since Gallup tracking began in early March. He registered the same level of support in early May. This is also McCain’s largest advantage over Obama since early May, when he led by as much as six percentage points. Obama has led McCain for most of the campaign, and for nearly all of the time since clinching the Democratic nomination in early June. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.) — Jeff Jones”
via sandtraps via gallup
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110050/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Moves-Ahead-48-45.aspx
From Heidi Li, worth quoting at length, please read the whole thing.
“A wiser person than Senator Obama would not have let the pundits and the press treat Senator Palin with dismissive misogyny and sexism. A wiser politician would not have done so either. But time and again, Senator Obama fails to show wisdom when confronted with the hard cold fact of reality: that it has a stubborn way of refusing to be scripted and that you have to deal with that. You cannot, like George W. Bush, decide that you create your own reality – nobody has that much power. Writing a revisionist memoir will not serve as an effective response to immediate, pressing problems. Neither will staging a rally or trying to predetermine outcomes. That’s the point about reality: it defies stagecraft and rigging: it must be dealt with, preferably with wisdom.
Ultimately, Senator Palin’s selection and success as John McCain’s running-mate matters relatively little to me – except possibly to the extent that it demonstrates Senator McCain’s astute political dispositions, his ability qua politician to respond to difficult and uncertain circumstances with politically shrewd decisions. But what matters so much more is the paucity of Senator Obama’s response to the display of powerful political character by both Senator McCain and Governor Palin over the last week. If he cannot respond with acuity to this sort of problematic reality, what does that suggest about his readiness, his natural dispositions, to respond wisely when confronted with the unexpected events that arise in the course of every presidency? Nothing very good.”
Read the rest at:
http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/09/the-centrality-of-character-in-political-leadership.html
Mc’s Cabinet positions – will go to the most qualified persons in the White House – no matter what party!! Straight from the POWs mouth!!
A link that you may want to add:
Godafi and Friends
http://savagepolitics.com/?p=797
I don’t know if anyone captured this on the green papers – the actual tallies by state on the bogus roll call at the convention:
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml#roll
This link and updated on Aug 28 are white papers in reagrds to the issue of BAIPA. It is a site that is pro life, however, no matter where your personal views are this the site presents many facts and arguments on BO’s stance, flipping, lying on how he has handled and voted (this being one of the few that was not voted as ‘present’). An important read.
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/WhitePaperAugust282008.html
#40 sandtraps on 09.07.08 at 1:05 pm
#47 bobram on 09.07.08 at 1:10 pm
PRINCETON, NJ — The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.
[Keep up the good work, Sandtraps and bobram!]
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday, September 7, shows the race for the White House is tied.
In the first national polling results based entirely on interviews conducted after Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech, Barack Obama gets 46% of the vote and so does John McCain. When “leaners” are included, it’s all even at 48%.
ONE OF MOST BRILLIANT POSTS ON PUMA PAC
#659 NoHillaryNoVote on 09.07.08 at 1:09 pm
I am a 53 year old African American woman who voted for Hillary in the primary and will not be voting for Obama in November. I live in northern Virginia. I don’t post often – only when I feel really strongly about sharing my opinion. This will be long – I apologize but one of the great things about these blogs is that we are all able to say what we need to say to a wider audience than our own family & friends.
I heard on MSNBC this morning (around 11:40am EST) someone saying that the Dems are not worried about Clinton Democrats because all the polls show they will get behind Obama. That caused me to pause and wonder how that could be? Then it occurred to me that those Dems who rely on ONLY television for their political news (and are not regular Internet users or do not listen to talk radio) – those Dems are NOT hearing that they have options. They do NOT know or understand the underhanded methods that the DNC (especially Pelosi & Dean) have practiced during the primaries & the convention.
All they are hearing are the Dem pundits on the tv news programs saying the same old party-line jibber-jabber.
The way I see it, the only voices being heard on tv news are the actual news commentators / moderators and those pundits who speak for the DNC and those pundits who speak for the RNC. We know that the DNC pundits (and most of the mainstream media) will NEVER present the story as PUMAS see it and they will never make the case for why Obama is NOT the way to go.
However, if we get very serious about focusing on the media & pundits that lean FOR the RNC – we might begin to give them the words to make our case for us in the media – and especially through outlets that might reach those Clinton Dems who are ONLY relying on tv news for their political information sources.
I understand that it may make us feel better to send off letters & emails to those media who are clearly 100% behind Obama (especially those at MSNBC) – but the truth is that we are not going to change their minds. And they are probably NEVER going to report what we are writing to them.
Instead – I on the other hand – have started targeting most of my comments and opinions to those media who I believe might actually be open to arguments for why Hillary Dems are interested in supporting McCain or a 3rd party and NOT supporting Obama. If we can write our comments in a way that explains to those RNC pundits WHY Hillary Dems would be willing to vote McCain – there is a chance those comments will be considered and repeated on mainstream media.
The DNC machine keeps saying over and over on all the tv news shows that Hillary Dems will NEVER vote for anyone BUT Obama because of specific social issues (Roe vs Wade, abortion rights, gay marriage, etc). And so those Hillary Dems who rely on tv news are influenced when they hear that. However we have to get the other side of the story into those media conversations by providing the “meat” of the stories to the RNC and the RNC pundits.
We have to get the message out that the behavior & practices of the DNC during the primaries & the convention is a personal matter to each of us. As I see it the DNC basically manipulated the process to ensure that Obama would be the candidate.
The RNC & its pundits need to hear from Hillary supporters that we are mad as h*ll that our votes were dismissed and tossed out and we were ignored. The RNC & its pundits need to understand why we as Hillary supporters are turning our backs on the DNC and what the passion is that we feel which would cause us to turn away and NOT vote Democrat this November (and for many of us this would be the FIRST time to not vote Democrat).
We have to explain to the RNC & its pundits why for Hillary supporters that voting against Obama is MORE important to us today than the social issues that the DNC keeps trotting out as the reason that we will supposedly be driven to vote ONLY for Obama. With only a few months left – we need to focus our communications to those who will be able to speak for us in the mainstream media. The RNC & their pundits would be more than happy to repeat our messages on tv news show as to why NOT Obama & why NOT the DNC.
Flooding the DNC & their pundits with our communications is not going to accomplish our goals. I agree we need to let them know we don’t agree with them, but the truth is that they will continue to ignore us just as they have done all along. The DNC will continue to point to PUMAs as crazy and that we do not represent the majority of Hillary supporters.
But if the RNC & their pundits start sharing PUMA lists for why not Obama and if they RNC & their pundits start sharing the various arguments Hillary supporters have against the DNC – THEN our primary goal is accomplished which is to get more people to NOT vote for Obama. We have to get the information to those 18million who voted for Hillary but who are not as familiar with why voting for Obama is not in their best interest – especially if they want a democratic party that is fair and honest.
Voting republican is not something I am jumping for joy about having to do. I try to look for the positive if McCain is elected. Such as, I just heard on the news today that McCain will have to fill posts from Independents & Democrats because there are not enough expert, qualified resources left in the Republican party. Many have retired and others have burned out after 8 years with Bush. So there is a good chance that when McCain says he will reach across party lines and promote co-partisianship that he will be successful. For me, McCain’s POW story is compelling (I had not really heard the details until the night he spoke at the RNC convention). My husband is a Vietnam Vet and I choose to believe that McCain will do what he can to support the armed forces and the veterans who return home.
I try to look for the positive if Palin is VP. I look at Palin and I am hopeful that her knowledge of drilling issues & what resources are available in Alaska will benefit the administration. I try to focus on the fact that she is a woman and if she does a decent job in her role (whether I share her views on social issues or not) – her presence will move forward the idea of women in the highest leadership roles, just as Hillary’s campaign has done. And I much prefer Cindy McCain over Michelle Obama. I was very impressed to hear of all Cindy has done as a volunteer in other countries. She may have money but she’s did not sit home and just go to the country club. I like that the RNC has promoted where Cindy differs in political views from Palin because where I don’t agree with Palin, I sometimes do agree with Cindy,
Do I agree with McCain & Palin on key social issues?- not at all. But my reality is that I’m left with Obama on one side who will only continue to be a DNC machine and is in the back pocket of Palosi & Dean; or I can vote for McCain & Palin.
I refuse to use my vote to permit Palosi & Dean continue to run the DNC down this path of ignoring the democratic voters. Of course I disagree with Palin & McCain on some of their positions. But I disagree MORE with the DNC and how they strong-armed to get Obama into the top position over Hillary.
So my suggestion is for all of us to watch the news programs & read the news on the Internet. But when you do – take note of the names of the RNC pundits who are speaking for McCain & Palin and then WRITE those Pundits a letter or an email.
I say target the news commentators on Fox who are often looking for something to shake at the DNC. When you write identify yourself as a supporter of Hillary Clinton and a member of PUMA. Provide some demographic (age, race, gender) – so they can see we are a diverse group. Tell them your personal story as to why you are upset with the DNC based on what occurred with Hillary and why you are prepared to vote for McCain & Palin (or for those who can’t vote for McCain – why you are not prepared to vote for Obama). Speak directly about why the social issues are not going to drive you to vote for Obama even though you may not share all the views of McCain & Palin.
I always put in my email subject line – Hillary supporter voting for McCain. I figure that will at least cause someone to read the first few lines of my email if for no other reason because they are curious. Then in my emails I try to explain WHY I am voting for McCain. I try to explain what I have embraced that helps me to do this so that they may be able to repeat it or attract others who may share my point of view. My goal is to hurt the DNC and to send them a message that they have forgotten that democracy must be maintained in the Democratic party. The only way I know to get the attention of the DNC is to NOT get Obama elected. I want to have Pelosi & Dean crying the day after the election because their guy did not win. For me this is less about Obama and much more about sending a message to the DNC that I will NOT fall in line and do what they say – especially after watching how they treated the democratic voters.
I think our PUMA emails where we all copy the same words has it’s place, but I also think that when each of us writes & speaks to the RNC pundits from our hearts & based on our personal beliefs & personal stories – then the impact on the readers (RNC pundits) is more effective. We don’t want to be seen as robots who always say the same thing. We want to sometimes show our diversity and how our personal stories differ – but demonstrate that we are ALL in agreement about NO OBAMA. RNC pundits who write for newspapers & magazines are often very more likely to read a letter or email because their world is about the written word. Our heartfelt testimonies as to why we are turning away from the DNC for this year is important for them to hear. I say keep writing every day – but let’s send some of our words to those who might actually repeat what we are saying on tv news programs. I say target the RNC & the RNC pundits if we really want to help others keep Obama from being elected.
Don’t get me wrong – I still occasionally fire off an email to one of those crazy MSNBC commentators who make me yell at my television. But they are no longer my target audience when I communicate.
I also constantly scan the Internet for any site that is gathering signatures or promoting elevating Hillary Clinton’s status. Whether it is promoting that she be given some key position in the new president’s cabinet, or that she be given a leadership role in the Senate. Hillary is the one who got me energized about the election and I would still like to see her be a key player in the next 4 years!
Heidi Li, a great read–
Hi everyone, haven’t been here since late last night. Anyways, I’m sure everyone is aware:
Rasmussen Tracking: Tied
Gallup Tracking: McCain +3
Zogby: McCain +4 or 4.5
Heh, Heh, Heh, Heh!
The best way to overcome the smears against Palin is for everyone to remind the people they know that Palin has an 82% Approval Rating and whopping 86% favorability rating in her state, the highest of any governor in the nation. Obama and Biden are trying to paint her as out of touch with the middle class because she never said the words “middle class” during her speech. But remind them that she is the “Middle Class” which is more than any other candidate can claim.
But the best way is to direct those to the biography written before she was ever even considered as a potential national leader. My post for the day includes a link to the first chapter of her biography.
Sarah Palin Biography Catching Fire, Book Sales Soaring, Read The First Chapter
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-biography-catching-fire.html
Have a great day, I know it’s been a bittersweet week for Clinton supporters and remember just because her fight for the Presidency may be over for now, it does not mean that the fight to remove replace Reid cannot be won. If Obama can be stopped then Hillary may have the leverage against the buffoon leadership to act and restore the party to the ideals it once held true.
I wrote my letter to Gloria Allred. If anyone else wants to here is the link:
http://gloriaallred.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp
obama got so much mileage from running on his “personality”..now that governor palin is elbowing him out of the popularity contest he comes out bitching and moaning..”lets run this election on issues not personality”..
#659 NoHillaryNoVote
I agree with you totally. It would even be good to write to the John McCain’s campaign as well. It could work to their advantage to expose the DNC’s egregious acts. If the McCain camp was made aware of the 3rd world tactics, the DNC and Obama used in this primary election, while we have troops in Iraq dying to facilitate a fair election, they may want to help us expose it.
morning murphy & pumas
check out snopes re palin. the letter from kilkenny about palin –
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/kilkenny.asp
and go to http://www.votesmart.org – research palin’s voting record.
#61 Osaka –
That has been the basis of his entire campaign. He wants to run on Judgement, but when they question his Judgement he immediately comes out and says this election is about issues. When they ask him to actually talk about the issues, he immediately comes back to judgement…and the wheels keep on turning.
Once he loses his popularity edge, he loses everything.
#34 pooh496 wrote:
“This is a wonderful video. hope you like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
UNITED WE STAND
D I V I D E D WE F A L L”
Nicely made video! Cool minuet man fell. I liked it.
feel,.. good mourning Pumas. “yawn”.
#57 gave me a good idea.
the msm media refuses to listen.
call in to C-Span, every day, as a Puma, on independent
on democratic, on republican lines.
Tell them you’re a Hillary voter who is now going to vote for Mc AND why:
-un-democratic selection of democratic candidate, closing out Hillary even though she had more votes
- strong arm tactics against delegates voting for Hillary
-calling Hillary voters racists
-playing the fear card just as George Bush did
-dividing the party by age, by race, by gender
-stating they didn’t need women or older voters of
the democratic party.
-All the reasons for the first time in my life I will vote for
a republican president. It is a vote against an unvetted
candidate, Obama, who the media are pushing down our throats, but who have not told us who he really is. There;’s even a serious question and a lawsuit about whether he is a natural born American citizen qualifying to be a President of the United States.
I have left the democratic party which no longer is the party I knew. It seems like a coup has taken place of the dem party by forces who are doing incomprehensible
things. “
gina..i understand where youre coming from ..but if the DNC ever found out PUMA was ratting and snitching them off to the RNC PUMA would be excomunnicated forever by the DNC as traitors
#63 –
Watch out everyone, that letter first appeared in a Dayton Ohio blog following Palin’s announcement. The editor who posted the blog claimed it was from a close friend – of a friend – who wished to remain anonymous. Since then the letter has appeared in emails and on blogs all over the internet, each time stating it was from a confirmed anonymous source, or as in this case crediting the letter to various residents of the town. I have found atleast 4 different names credited to the story. It’s nothing more than spam and another aimless attack piece.
Looks like I posted on an old thread – so reposting here.
I am a 53 year old African American woman who voted for Hillary in the primary and will not be voting for Obama in November. I live in northern Virginia. I don’t post often – only when I feel really strongly about sharing my opinion. This will be long – I apologize but one of the great things about these blogs is that we are all able to say what we need to say to a wider audience than our own family & friends.
I constantly scan the Internet for any site that is gathering signatures or promoting elevating Hillary Clinton’s status. Whether it is promoting that she be given some key position in the new president’s cabinet, or that she be given a leadership role in the Senate. Hillary is the one who got me energized about the election and I would still like to see her be a key player in the next 4 years! Please continue to post links to such websites so that we can all support.
Up until recently I said no way would I vote for Obama AND no way would I vote for McCain. The idea of voting republican was hard to swallow. Then I read some of the links provided on this PUMA site discussing the impact of how the votes would be counted during the election. And it changed my mind. I was especially influenced by the article on http://practicaldemocrat.blogspot.com/
Here’s why I’m writing today – I heard on MSNBC this morning (around 11:40am EST) someone saying that the Dems are not worried about Clinton Democrats because ALL the polls show they will get behind Obama. That caused me to pause and wonder how that could be? Then it occurred to me that there are those Dems who rely on ONLY television for their political news (and are not regular Internet users or do not listen to talk radio) – and those Dems are NOT hearing that they have options. They may NOT know or understand the underhanded methods that the DNC (especially Pelosi & Dean) have practiced during the primaries & the convention. All they are hearing are the Dem pundits on the tv news programs saying the same old party-line jibber-jabber.
The way I see it, the only voices that will be heard on tv news up until the election are the actual news commentators / moderators and those pundits who speak for the DNC and those pundits who speak for the RNC. We know that the DNC pundits (and most of the mainstream media) will NEVER present the story as PUMAS see it and they will never make the case for why Obama is NOT the way to go.
However, if we get very serious about focusing on the media & pundits that lean FOR the RNC – we might begin to give them the words to make our case for us in the media – and especially through outlets that might reach those Clinton Dems who are ONLY relying on tv news for their political information sources.
I understand that it may make us feel better to send off letters & emails to those media who are clearly 100% behind Obama (especially those at MSNBC) – but the truth is that we are not going to change their minds. And they are probably NEVER going to report what we are writing to them.
Instead – I on the other hand – have started targeting most of my comments and opinions to those media who I believe might actually be open to arguments for why Hillary Dems are interested in supporting McCain or a 3rd party and NOT supporting Obama. If we can write our comments in a way that explains to those RNC pundits WHY Hillary Dems would be willing to vote McCain or a 3rd party – there is a chance those comments will be considered and repeated on mainstream media.
The DNC machine keeps saying over and over on all the tv news shows that Hillary Dems will NEVER vote for anyone BUT Obama because of specific social issues (Roe vs Wade, abortion rights, gay marriage, etc). And so those Hillary Dems who rely on tv news are influenced when they hear that. However we have to get the other side of the story into those media conversations by providing the “meat” of the stories to the RNC and the RNC pundits. We have to get the message out that the behavior & practices of the DNC during the primaries & the convention is a personal matter to each of us. As I see it the DNC basically manipulated the process to ensure that Obama would be the candidate.
The RNC & its pundits need to hear from Hillary supporters that we are mad as h*ll that our votes were dismissed and tossed out and we were ignored. The RNC & its pundits need to understand why we as Hillary supporters are turning our backs on the DNC and what the passion is that we feel which would cause us to turn away and NOT vote Democrat this November (and for many of us this would be the FIRST time to not vote Democrat). We have to explain to the RNC & its pundits why for Hillary supporters that voting against Obama is MORE important to us today than the social issues that the DNC keeps trotting out as the reason that we will supposedly be driven to vote ONLY for Obama. With only a few months left – we need to focus our communications to those who will be able to speak for us in the mainstream media. The RNC & their pundits would be more than happy to repeat our messages on tv news show as to why NOT Obama & why NOT the DNC.
Flooding the DNC & their pundits with our communications is not going to accomplish our goals. I agree we definitely need to let them know we don’t agree with them, but the truth is that they will continue to ignore us just as they have done all along. They are totally confident that we will fall in line & vote for Obama. The DNC will continue to point to PUMAs as crazy and that we do not represent the majority of Hillary supporters.
But if the RNC & their pundits start sharing reasons from PUMA lists for why not Obama and if they RNC & their pundits start sharing the various arguments Hillary supporters have against the DNC – THEN our primary goal is accomplished which is to get more people to NOT vote for Obama. We have to get the information to those 18million who voted for Hillary but who are not as familiar with why voting for Obama is not in their best interest – especially if they want a democratic party that is fair and honest.
Voting republican is not something I am jumping for joy about having to do. Do I agree with McCain & Palin on key social issues?- not at all. But my reality is that I’m left with Obama on one side who will only continue to be a DNC machine and is in the back pocket of Pelosi & Dean; or I can vote for McCain & Palin; or I can vote for a 3rd party. I refuse to use my vote to permit Pelosi & Dean continue to run the DNC down this path of ignoring the democratic voters. Of course I disagree with Palin & McCain on some of their positions. But I disagree MORE with the DNC and how they strong-armed to get Obama into the top position over Hillary.
So my suggestion is for all of us to watch the news programs & read the news on the Internet. But when you do – take note of the names of the RNC pundits who are speaking for McCain & Palin and then WRITE those Pundits a letter or an email. I say target the news commentators on Fox who are often looking for something to shake at the DNC. When you write identify yourself as a supporter of Hillary Clinton and a member of PUMA. Provide some demographic (age, race, gender) – so they can see we are a diverse group. Tell them your personal story as to why you are upset with the DNC based on what occurred with Hillary and why you are prepared to vote for McCain & Palin (or for those who will not vote republican – then why you are not prepared to vote for Obama). Speak directly about why the social issues are not going to drive you to vote for Obama even though you may not share all the views of McCain & Palin.
I always put in my email subject line – Hillary supporter NOT voting for Obama; or Democrat NOT voting for Obama; or African American NOT voting for Obama. I figure that will at least cause someone to read the first few lines of my email if for no other reason because they are curious. Then in my emails I try to explain WHY I am voting for McCain. I try to explain what I have embraced that helps me to do this so that they may be able to repeat it or attract others who may share my point of view. I explain that my goal is to hurt the DNC and to send them a message that they have forgotten that democracy must be maintained in the Democratic party. The only way I know to get the attention of the DNC is to NOT get Obama elected. I want to have Pelosi & Dean crying the day after the election because their guy did not win. For me this is less about Obama and much more about sending a message to the DNC that I will NOT fall in line and do what they say – especially after watching how they treated the democratic voters.
I think our PUMA emails where we all copy the same words has it’s place, but I also think that when each of us writes & speaks to the RNC pundits from our hearts & based on our personal beliefs & personal stories – then the impact on the readers (RNC pundits) is more effective. We don’t want to be seen as robots who always say the same thing. We want to sometimes show our diversity and how our personal stories differ – but demonstrate that we are ALL in agreement about NO OBAMA. RNC pundits who write for newspapers & magazines are often very more likely to read a letter or email because their world is about the written word. Our heartfelt testimonies as to why we are turning away from the DNC for this year is important for them to hear. I say keep writing every day – but let’s send some of our words to those who might actually repeat what we are saying on tv news programs. I say target the RNC & the RNC pundits if we really want to help others keep Obama from being elected.
Don’t get me wrong – I still occasionally fire off an email to one of those crazy MSNBC commentators who make me yell at my television. But they are no longer my target audience when I communicate.
Here. goes. I’m a Male, a Husband and a Father of two girls who recently found your site. Full-disclosure, I’m a moderate Republican. I too have been amazed and disgusted with the way the Democrat Party and the media not only threw Hillary under the bus during the primaries, but ran over her, backed over her and then ran her over again. Contrary to the talking points some of you may be used to hearing about us Republicans I can say that I have much respect for Hillary as do most thinking conservatives I know and I/we never had a question about her ability to perfrom as president…I would much prefer over Obama but that’s not my point. What has become even more shocking to find out is the same treatment is happening all over again with Sara Palin. It has become clear that it was not just Hillary the establishment turned against it is obvious now it’s women in general. I have two duaghters under the age of four and I want to raise them with the understanding that they can do and accomplish anything they choose. In the past few months I have realized that there is a faction of this Country that is only out for one thing and that’s talking the Country hard to the left by removing the power from the people and instead putting it in the hands of the elites and the MSM regardless of who they trample in the process. If Obama really cared about change in this Country and really was looking out for its betterment then why did he not choose Hillary as his running mate!? The answer is simple. Obama is a fraud to this Country and to the party he represents. I thank you for you ability to put aside party indentification and partisianship in an effort to prevent this new threat in politics. You have my support, a father of two girls who will do anything in his power to raise them in a world where there is no glass ceiling because that’s they way it should be. Shame on the MSM, the Obama campaign and the far left faction of the Democrat party that will trash any woman who stands in their way.
Thank you NJPuma – I usually get ignored.
I urge you to read the following article from this morning’s Seattle Post-Intelligecer, regarding Palin’s record on the environment. Educate yourselves. Is this really someone our country wants as VP?
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/377955_palinenvir07.html
from email:
“Please help me get this message into very broad circulation, as soon as possible.
In case you missed it, look what the Congressional Obama Nation cooked up 2 weeks in advance of the 9/21 event to raise funds to protect the seat of one of Hillary’s most courageous national co-chairs, US Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/casey/5984663.html.
This wonderful woman was boo’d at her own Texas Senate District convention for the sin of campaigning on her principles instead of on her skin color: Serious money now opposes her ~ of course. We must nip this in the bud.
Sheila needs all of our help ~ NOW. Groups from all over the country can help show that we who supported Hillary are not going to sit idly by and allow post-Denver bullying to ride any of HRC’s team out of town. We will be sure the press knows you are here.
———- Forwarded message ———-
HILLARY WILL BE IN HOUSTON, SEPT 21, 1.30 PM . . . !!
Please join
Senator Hillary Clinton
Marty & Parvin McVey
Ambassador Arthur Schechter
Barbara Ann Radnofsky
Amy Ashby
Dr. Karen Otazo Hofmeister
Gordon Quan
Ann MacNaughton
Invitation and donation link are at http://www.sheilajacksonlee18.com.
In the Message box, please type “HOST: ANN MacNAUGHTON”.
Many thanks ~ I look forward to seeing you there!
Ann
71 bobram One of my favorite people – hello! I am running from my TV in the other room to here, so didn’t see when you came on.
Just announced on FOX Gallup Poll:
McCain 48
Obama 45
firechief — let’s not start that up again.
Puma PAC is Protesting the Election — Nothing On Top for Obama — that means no vote for Obama for president.
Some Pumas will indeed vote McCain, not because they are too stupid or uninformed to know Palin’s envmtl record, nor because they suddenly SUPPORT Palin’s envmtl record, but because it is the STRONGEST Protest vote they can make.
Other Pumas will do other things at the top of the ticket.
No Pumas will vote for Obama.
Let’s leave it there.
#57 Kelligesq re: NoHillaryNoVote
I agree a million times. OK, where to begin. Ideas anyone?
Megan Kelly? I met her in Denver. She works with Bill O’Reilly.
Laura Ingrahm?
Any more suggestions?
Murphy,
My apologies.
Was just trying to put some factual info out there.
Murphy and PUMAs – I’m more concerned with A.C.O.R.N. If 49 people handled fraud voting in Milwaukee, I’m wondering how many votes were involved? Also, where did they get the “gas cards” being handed out for votes? Very dirty politics here and this is only one “city”!
Sorry-I just came back from sending Lou Dobbs an Email when I heard the result of the Gallup Poll. I didn’t see that someone had already reported it. I’ll be more careful next time.
#75 Lilibet
I thought I heard
McCain 48%
nOBO 35%
I could be wrong.
Thank you #57 kelligesq ! Going to start letter campaign today..I do think you are right, the RNC &conservative pundits do need to hear from us..they will surely LOVE to use our comments as ammo against BO and help with our education of Clinton voters as to why we will not support BO inspite of Hillarys endorsement. It is all about the DNC and the corruption of the party/rigging of the primary for BO, the most unqualified candidate for POTUS in 100 years.
#70 NoHillaryNoVote
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%!
I posted, I think on Saturday, not as beautifully as you did, but in essence most of what you are stating here. We have to be heard by the Media to reach the masses. I said forget about Oprah or others like her. By writing these people we get our anger out but it will not be made public. We need to get PUBLIC! Reach TV, radio talkshows (which I also suggested), and like you said, on a more personal level. We can choose an issue and lay out the same facts but not in exact words. We can have a list of subjects to attack on and serve as a guide and then, each one of us, in our own language, send these messages to the people you are suggesting. THERE IS NO TIME TO WASTE BY ATTACKING SINGLE PEOPLE! We must reach the MACRO! I am 100 % in favor of what you are saying in your post! IMHO
Thanks murphy #76
Gallup Daily
Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%
McCain enjoying increase in support following convention
September 7, 2008John McCain has moved ahead of Barack Obama in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking, 48% to 45%, following last week’s Republican convention. This is McCain’s best showing since May.More …
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110050/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Moves-Ahead-48-45.aspx
#82, McCaindemo, Who are you targeting? I don’t know who the RNC pundits are???? I’ll do a search in the meantime.
Firechief #72 do you live in Alaska, do you know anything at all about how the Alaskans see their own state on environmental issues…did you hear Obama putting the whole state of Alaska down yesterday while out stumping, he didnt even go there during the primaries…yet claimed he had visted all “57″ states LOLOLOLOL well 50 states, not Alaska, i guess his camp thought there weren’t enough people there to matter. huh
I knew her record on enviornment before you showed it anyway, a wolf lover such as myself, does not know the balance of the animal kingdom, but i do know the Eskimoes there live off the meat of caribou and moose, and when they see them start dropping down in numbers, they feel it is a must to do something. Hell, for that matter i dont even like to see moose killed. But that is their food. Hey Chinese love cat and dog meat, let’s not take this to a diet debate. To each their own.
Two things bother me this campaigne, and somehow, they intertwine this year…national security and energy,
which some how intertwine with the economy…I get it…do you
david axelrods next trick-pulling another widget out of his bag of tricks..they are going to try to use that old stereotype of women as being “overly emotional”"irrational” and “prone to psychological maladies”..
they will look hard to dig up something that they can use to create an image in the public mind that she has been treated for psychiatric problems before .or has taken psychiatric drugs ..in other words that shes “crazy”
Well, Harper called our elections today, the 3rd election in 4 years, lovely waste of tax payers money. We go to the polls October 25th. He isn’t wasting any time letting his opposition campaign.
He’ll never get my vote after his secret NAFTA meetings with Bozo.
ooops October 15
1GYPSY – right back at ya kid – I have enjoyed your posts over the last few weeks – you are always there for everyone – one of my many pleasures in life
#72 firechief – This was answered by Murphy.
I just add “more of the same”.
Prior to either candidate selecting their VP a PUMA( can’t remember which) posted a psychic’s premonition that said it wasn’t Hillary’s year, maybe 2012 would be, and the candidate that choses a women for VP would win by a landslide. She also said the President would become ill and step a side and we’d have our first women president. I know it is silly to believe in those thing, but it is starting to feel creepy.
Does anyone else remember that post?
diva2:
Oh how I wish you had heard right. Perhaps in a few weeks!
no prob firechief.
hey bobram!
*** Thank you Pooh…*****
Sent that video to everyone on my personal mailing list and to Lou Dobbs
Please watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
Barb
****** Tomorrow last day here for 3 weeks *******
Going in for bi-lateral knee replacement surgery tomorrow in Penn-Pres hospital in Philly… so no computer… i think, unless they have one available for use by patients at the hospital…
Fare thee well All… Stay united and strong and watch that YouTube video and call your Congressional Switchboard… We need a United States!!! Not a black, white, brown and divided United States!!!
DON’T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN POSTED BUT…
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/oopsies-my-muslim-faith/
Obama slips in ABC interview and says: : “My muslim faith”
A McCain-Palin adviser says an interview was offered to ABC’s Charlie Gibson several days ago and that they expect it to happen in the latter part of the week in Alaska. Palin is the governor of Alaska and is expected to return home at midweek after more joint appearances with McCain.
TRISH:
Good afternoon.
At least you didn’t repeat the mistake 3 times. That was one of the things I missed about your posts while you were away. When you came back your post was repeated 4 times!
GINA613: Just what I was going to ask for..Gloria Allred’s email. I just mailed an email to Gloria, the partial text of which appears here:
Dear Ms. Allred: As a PumaPac member and a lifelong Democrat, I want to assure you that your performance on Murphy and Friends last night moved me even more than I expected. I had thought that nothing could more solidify my opposition to the candidate submitted for election by the usurped Democratic Party. Your performance proved me wrong.
You might also like to review comments on that blog from last night and today.
We will not serve!..Not now..Not Later, and it is getting later, Not ever..Never..NOBAMA. And for the record, once more, this would be the position of millions no matter who the Democratic Primary opposition candidate had been, woman or not.
The Democratic Party needs to be reformed. We will do that whether you or the rest of the power mongers like it or not. Sincerely, my real name, , 62 year old very well educated lifelong Democratic, daughter of a 40+ year IAM trade union, who represented that union for 30 years….you know, that Democratic base that Donna and Howard and others do not need?…
End of email…Well…it was fun…sorta reminded me of the good ole Hillary Rapid Responder days…actually..
Shall I dare say it….actually…Ha…CATHARTIC.
#99 lilibet
I’m really going to try for 10 times one of these nights lol
Dear TrishfromCanada,
I have always wanted to ask this question and I hope you do not mind. Sorry if it seem obtrusive, but are you a US citizen living in Canada and if not, how did you find out about this movement?
Second question, what was the situation with Harper and Bozo?
#102, I meant to write “Intrusive”, not obtrusive. I guess I am just obtuse. LOL.
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96 bmw60 I wish you success and a speedy recovery with your knee replacement surgery. I may be having the same done in a month or so. The surgery I had 30 years ago has worn out and it’s just bone on bone now, and lots of arthritis. So I can empathize. Good luck.
BMW60 – Good luck tomorrow and wishes for a speedy recovery.
#97 Amarissa on 09.07.08 at 2:14 pm
Whoa. That is a huge slip up.
babramThose are very kind words. Thank you so much.
Good luck and speedy recovery, bmw60! Come back soon.
bobram
Amarissa great video.
Thanks Everyone….. I am excited, nervous and anxious, but in a good way… looking forward to dancing again!
Hope I will be able to dance on Nov. 4th when Obama loses!!!…
bmw60 Good luck with your surgery!! Prayers are with you.
#100 NewOrleansPuma
Great letter! Thanks for sharing.
BMW60: You certainly have my prayers…Ah to dance…that is a worthy act!
I saw on ABC news that bozo is out there saying he “almost” joined the military out of high school but since the war was over, he didn’t. HAHAHA. Guess he feels left out that people are amazed by McCain’s record. Then he said he might not raise taxes depending on if we are in a recession. GEEZ. Is there one issue he has not flipped on after he checked out the polls?
obama is an amateur, plain and simple.
every passing day makes that more and more clear.
#114, BMW60 – From your mouth to God’s ears!
#113, I meant…I need to get my synapses in order….
From your mouth to God’s ears!
#102 LaureyPuma
I’m Canadian with no ties to the US unless you count my grandfather who was born in one of the New England states, sorry I don’t know which one. He lived his last 20 years of his life in New York and always told me to move there.
I have always been a follower of Hillary ever since she was First Lady and when she ran for President I was overjoyed. I would spend my time on her website but after she suspended her website became bot filled and one day someone from the PAC advertised over there. so I came here and checked it out, saw that I could help and registered
Harper met secretly via phone with Bozo to negotiate the terms of Canada’s role in NAFTA. This conversation was denied until a staff member leaked the transcript to the public This staff person was fired as soon as he was identified. This didn’t sit too well with most canadians, we like our politicians to be upfront when dealing with other countries. Harper has always been trying to push US politics our way, but we are happy with our health care system and prefer to keep our systems as they are.
#97Amarissa
According to the fact that most of the men that profess that faith would never allaow women to be above them in any particular circumstance, could be reason of so much sexist & misogynist attacks, and male chauvinism
Even in my deepest slumber I will be able to correctly answer my faith, god etc. Wow! Is this change we can believe in or is this the change in the Belief (faith).
It sure is one tongue of the slip moment! lol!
obamas drawing power is the discredited republican brand.americans are very wary of electing someone who will continue GWs failed policies….thats why obama is still ahead in electoral college race..
mccain has to convince americans hes for shaking up and cleaning house in washington..if he does he will win..
BMW60
I googled bilateral knee surgery and came up with lots of information. Is your surgery, simultaneous total knee surgery?
I had 2 meniscus tears in my right knee repaired last year. After rehab the 82 year old knee is as good as new.
#125 lilibet
boggles my mind that you are 82, you seem so young in your posts
now because MCCAIN is a war heroe
he says he wanted join the army after HS
BS
he is the greatest liar on the face of the earth
this country never had such an indecent candidate running for the WH
Dances, You have mail.
osaka: McCain can counter with the fact that his 1st important decision, that is, picking a running mate that was so brilliant that it very much outshines Obama’s choice of a “politics as usual” choice.
MURPHY: Just saw your post to me from last night.
I have, assuredly, no doubt of your incorruptibility even as I have no reservations about the depth of corruption that will continue to attempt to encircle you from now until election day and beyond.
I am praying for you, Murphy..have for a while, from the beginning. I think I will have a little conversation with my favorite…Joan of Arc..you know…that regular person, who some thought “crazy”…but who saved France! If you have not read the actual published transcripts of her trial, they are fascinating in their embodiment of the reality of “inspiration”, in the face of evil manipulators.!
obama for sure is beginning to look ridiculous and that could prove be his undoing..but two powerful arrows he has in his sling are his millions of loyal obama supporters and the stigma of a failed republican administration..
#97 Amarissa
He did slip. He makes alot of slips. Last Friday on his interview with Bill O’Reilly, he was talking about how “they” were treating the Islamic states. I noticed the “they” was not an “us”. Is he not a member of the US Senate? Who is “they”?
It really disturbed me. He was clearly animated about the subject and came off as believing he had some higher understanding and we were all confused. He also refused to define his position.
He has been deceitful about his religious upbringing and his citizenship. Talk about being UNELECTABLE!
Before the election, they made a big deal that the GOP would try to make BO out as scarey. Well, he certainly is doing alot to reinforce that. I find him totally creepy and the more I see of him, the more I am creeped out.
Bmw good luck to you Have had members of family had it done and they all are so greatful they did. See ya back here soon
Dear Trish,
Thank you for that information! It is really good to have you on our side!!
I had heard about the Bozo/Harper situation, but I thought the coversation took place with an advisor not, the Prime Minister. Incidently, that issue was one of the first that caused me to rethink my support of NoBo. Initially – and I am embarrassed to admit this – but I supported him very early on. I switched after that particular incident and a another issue that demonstrated to me that he was the Bush of the left.
Osaka the scary thing he has is- his Chicago politics and people ready to use them.
O I know talking again cannt help I have a loud mouth at times LOL No you dont have to agree with me on that one
BMW60
You will be in my prayers. I recently had knee surgery. It was not fun but they are doing wonders these days and I am really enjoying my “new” knee. Make sure you have alot of ice and do all your physical therapy.
Best wishes!
#134 LaureyPuma
Sorry, you are correct it was an advisor, not Bo himself
#134 LaureyPuma,
It’s alright, we all make mistakes. : )
Obama has electile dysfunction and I will always say NO DEAL! I am happy and PROUD to vote for the two maverick’s!!
McCain/Palin 08!!
“Country First”
TrishfromCanada: Sure you don’t want to jump over the line and become a US citizen? I am sure Obimba could help you out with birth certificates and the like!
Good to see you here again. I also have always appreciated your posts and admire your dedication!
#134 LaureyPuma
The advisor was from Bo’s side, according the guy who was fired it was Harper on the phone call with two other of his staff
#73 Murphy on that getting out how about our blog list? It is quite large and if everyone on the other sites told some we should have a pretty large amount to get ball rolling. Just a thought and thanks for taking so much with such grace.I know we dont see a tenth of what you do and glad I dont. I would prob. smuck some of these bots. Thanks again.
I am very pleased by McCain saying he will elect Dems and Independents to his cabinet. It’s interesting that I actually believe he will do as he says. His word is extremely more trustworthy to me than bozo’s. I believe nothing bozo says b/c he changes his positions daily depending on the polls regarding that issue. I don’t think the bots even know where he really stands on anything. I do not trust bozo in charge of our country. There’s too much at stake. If our national security fall in jeopardy then there will be no economy to save. I trusted Hillary at the helm and now I trust McCain. I would not trust bozo to walk my dog.
dog.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/07/mccain-i-will-appoint-democrats-to-my-cabinet/
#138 NewOrleansPuma
lol maybe Bozo can xerox a new birth certificate for me, with a ready made drivers licence and health card. He already has the templates
#138, No Trish don’t. We need someone up there to write character letters on our behalf if Bozo wins and we need to seek political asylum…
BREAKING!!!!!
Freudian Slip – OBAMA – “My Muslim faith…” ON ABC with Stephanopolous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGMQ5DpVVTM
Obama has slipped on his own faith by saying “John McCain has not… talked about… My muslim faith”
Of which Stephanopolous carried the water and corrected him by saying “Christian faith”.
I am so mad that I am seeing… ORANGE.
I just drove almost 60 miles RT to get Hillary tickets for tomorrow just to be told that they were all gone but that I could get on the “waiting list.” Apparently I could have called to reserve tickets or done it online. What a crock! SOBama will stop at nothing to get people’s names, addresses, phone numbers & email addresses. There was also a question regarding whether you plan to vote for NObama (yeah, like we’re so stupid that we’re going to say “NO” and then not be called to get tickets.) So much for the One’s energy plan.
I got on the waiting list (the volunteer said she would call tonight and that I was “lucky because the waiting list is less than 100″) but didn’t have my glasses, so I’m not sure I wrote in my address or email address correctly, LOL. I also changed my nic on the blog today b/c the bots may be watching. Paranoid, huh? I even turned my PUMA bracelet inside out when I went to get the tickets.
I know, I shouldn’t have been surprised. Just needed to rant. I feel like I need a bath after walking through the “Change” door and stepping into the bowels hell….
#142 Trish
I thought the birth certificate template was from Hawaii?
Hi Laurey.
#143 LaureyPuma
lol, i’ll start writing them, I’ll leave the name and date blank. It’s truly frightening to think of him winning. Beyond frightening.
I don’t know if any of you paid attention to the news Venezuela and Russia is going to hold a “joint” military exercise. Venezuela is oil producing country, USA import oil from Venezuela; Russia supply oil to Europe. Last week Putin released a statement he is going to close pipeline for oil to Germany and Poland and another European countries. A lot of you may think it has nothing to do with USA. Putin will use oil to wage war against European countries, he wanted to build another Russian empire, he’ll have Hugo Chavez on his side who happens to hate USA.
My question to all of you, what are you going to do about it? Some of you are “environmentalist”, you don’t want to drill oil, are you willing to go to war, this country is the biggest oil user in the world. There are people who call themselves environmentalist but don’t want a windmill built in their backyard – I call them NIMBY (not in my backyard) environmentalist. Oil is the BIGGEST part of our national security, if our national security is unstable, that affects our economy. It would take 10 years for renewable energy to be accessible to all users in this country.
#145 Your northern neighbor
Hey, I’m fine with being from Hawaii, I always wanted to be a little more festive.
Yes, that just sounds like our Trish.
on every single speech obama gives lately he ties it in to GWs administration..
his election depends on how successful he is in convincing americans mccain palin would be a continuation of GW..
if he
cant pull that off he loses
#144 Boots-and-Saddles on 09.07.08 at 3:05 pm
Nobama is a MUSLIM! He can call his self a “christian” but his true faith is ISLAM.
Your northern neighbor! Hi my bud, nice to read you!!!
Yes, Trish get out those templates. God willing we won’t need them – although you know I LOVE Canada. I miss Canada and I love Canadians. My sisters and I are the only ones in my family who are not Canadian.
Asianforhillary, I am so happy you are back.
#144 Boots-and-Saddles – nightmare days have started!
When Joe was named as VP, He announced him mistakenly as the next Pres err VP and then after that gave an err kiss to Jill in the wrong place that got Joe to hit the booze and then Palin syndrome happened. Now this! I am beginning to see a pattern here. It is comical to say the least and would make a good BORAT sorry BARACKT collection!
thats the thing about obama ..he is not telling the truth about his true ideas and allegiances..hes hiding the truth because he knows the american people would reject him
#LaureyPuma..Hey..you’re right…didn’t think about a plan to escape! Except some of my friends swear they are moving to Costa Rica if Mojimba wins. ..I think I will just meander within the encircling interstices of New Orleans streets. There…we have lost many a neophyte!
BREAKING !!! On Cnn this afternoon…Republican Womens Committee (not sure if that is the proper name, as I am not up on Repub terminology!)..Massive boycott of Ophra Winfreys show and “O” Magazine because of Os refusal to have Palin on her show ! That just put a knife in my heart..just think how the DNC could have helped Hillary..all the more reason to work against Obama forces.
Regarding BOs Freudian slip this am with Stehanopolous…could explain his distain for women.
We could all move up to Canada with the Clintons and be a Government in exile. What about that, Trish.
#153 LotusBoy
lol its a downward spiral, you left out Biden giving Mo the hug that never ends in response to Bo liplocking Jill
Hi,
The latest polls are just out as of 9/06/08:
Gallup Tracking: Obama 45 McCain 48 +3
Rasmussen Track:Obama 48 McCain 48 Tie
McCain better brace himself, the onslaught by Obama and his MSM surrogates is going to be even more intense.
I hope the DNC is having buyer’s remorse. Well, don’t say we didn’t tell them so.
#144 Boots-and-Saddles – this is what happens when you don’t have a teleprompter all the time
re#156
thats a great idea!!
its about time
#157 lilibet
lol I’d love that we could call ourselves the NoBo party and Hillary can be our fearless leader with Murphy as Veep
#157 lilibet
lol I’d love that we could call ourselves the NoBo party and Hillary can be our fearless leader with Murphy as Veep
#157 lilibet – That is why we have an Alaskan on the ticket just in case.
Laurey
You know Canada would love to have you anytime of the day!
But for now I guess we need your vote to defeat *61.
#158 TrishfromCanada – Oh, yes. I forgot that! thanks
Does anyone have a list of issues that McCain differs on from GW Bush?
I’m thinking that it might be helpful to mention these issues when the Obie folks say McCain is more of the same.
Just trying to come up with more attack angles. Thanks
Not to spoil the moment, but today feels like old times here on the blog, when we’d relax on Sunday and talk politics, life, current affairs, etc. It’s good to have everything back to how it should be.
Thank you Murphy for stepping it up a notch
indy.. i think you are probably right about the DNC going after mccain..
they are going to try to sink his campaign by destroying sarah ..they will go after sarah for the kill
utah.. i applaud your proactive thinking!!
# 78 firechief posted:
Murphy,
My apologies.
Was just trying to put some factual info out there.
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Your factual info sounds like Obama spin. Furthermore, we are not voting for someone, we are voting against Obama.
It is a beautiful day here in Oak Brook, IL and I am off to a party with Murphy’s fliers.
#169 osaka puma
Bo needs to realize Sarah will just fight back harder and he’ll look even more like an idiot. She really has nothing to lose by fighting. With Bo’s ego he has so much to lose by her fighting.
I say “let slip the dogs of war”
I’m really concerned about the obama surrogates pulling voter fraud with electronic voting machines..
if the election is close that could be the difference..
it would be interesting to know if any of obamas supporters are connected to the electronic black box voting industry
bmw60
good luck on your knee surgery tomorrow!
and NOLA Puma, yup, I agree with you. What I’m hearing is many of the people we need for supporting the new party, they say are turned off because we’re getting too cliquish, too exclusive and driven by hall monitorship to shhh..and/or discouraging constructive discussion.
I read and heard on fox news a few weeks back that bozo does not give his children gifts on Christmas or their birthdays. Is there a religious significance to this or is it just some weird bozo thing?
On Fox – the pollster Doug S. said all indications are pointing to a HUGE convention bounce for McCain next wk. Much higher than BO’s.
I sure hope the Dem’s are having buyers remorse, because I think a lot of the country is.
I also heard last night that the Dem’s have approx 36 attorney’s, etc in Alaska trying to dig up dirt on Palin. They really are desperate without Hillary.
#173 osaka puma – Look up Diebold company. They have other competitors too. Perhaps something to look up
I am just now getting back to the blog and haven’t read any posts. However, I am listening to the radio show from last night and I am really annoyed that Gloria Allred is 1000% for BO. That is totally unacceptable to me and now I’m done with her too. Don’t know what everyone has posted but I am totally opposed to anyone supporting BO.
lotus.. i will do that ..some research is in order..thanks for the suggestion
http://londonamerican01.blogspot.com/2008/09/gallup-mccain-takes-lead-48-45.html
mccain takes lead in gallup tracking 48-45%, same trend seen in rasmussen, zogby, cbs polls released over weekend.
#176 Middle age female – Is this not the same way the state senate seat was fought (nomination signature validation etc) and won? this time it is going to boomberang though
if Bo keeps on about his desires for the medicare system, it’ll be a bigger drop for him. Simply because he can’t explain his stance well and his lack of knowlede is more and more apparant
i have a feeling that if the obama campaign starts to fall fast that could trigger some sort of “critical mass” that could bury them
#167 utahpuma – For starters GW did not have dems and independents in the governance process but MCC is open to it (with Lieberman almost being his running mate). Will see what I can muster
#174PumaDuma: You agree with me about what?
I am not clear to what you are referring.
#180 LondonAmerican i saw that too!!
YNN, I am going to do my best. If somehow we fail, do you need a roommate? LOL.
NOP: We could have a “Plan C” which would entail the mass exodus up North.
I also think we will start seeing a lot of heavy 527 ads coming out against BO. They apparently have a lot to work with.
I wonder if the Dem’s would ever admit they were wrong and bring back Hillary for president.
#12 1 Lucky Lady – “I live in Pa, an undecided state. I will definitely be voting for McCain/Palin.”
Me too
PUMA Democrat from ne PA
Keep in mind, the televised debates are really going to go against Bo, McCain will pick up voters there.
I’m not for McCain, I’m against Bo.
osaka puma:
That is exactly what happened in Ohio when Kerry “gave up” without a fight. There was evidence of fraud, but Kerry did not contest it and many Democrats were quite upset about his quick concession.
I have an abhorrence of fraud, but in this case, I console myself with the thought that the Republicans have a long history of fraud that can give Obama’s camp a run for their money.
Iranians Hoping for ‘Muslim’ Obama Victory
Iran’s leadership has expressed “great pleasure” at the prospect of a Barack Obama victory in November, according to Menashe Amir, the Iranian-born head of Radio Israel’s Persian language service.
But Iranian President Ahmadinejad has said he doubts that the American establishment “will allow” Obama to win.
“One of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation,” Amir told Isracast.com.
The Iranian leadership likes Obama “mainly because he is a Muslim,” according to Amir. His first name, Barack, comes from “al-baraq,” which is the name of the horse that Muslims believe Muhammad rode on his way to paradise.
His middle name Hussein is also a Muslim name, and he was “born in a Muslim family,” said Amir.
#187LaureyPuma: Oh, indeed, but Laurey …this tropical soul already knows, having lived in New England, that I would have to never leave the inside of a house again. Prior to that time I was in graduate school in Columbia , Mo and when I first got there it snowed…I kept opening the door for 3 days straight, waiting for this white “rain” to go away….Then I realized..oh NO…it isn’t going anywhere! You mean to tell me I have to go out in this? Oh…where am I?
Hey Trish, maybe ..you could make some sort of Canadian negotiations for me with British Columbia?
Isn’t that warmer? I could be a NewOrleanian in exile to BC via transcountry negotiations with Canada?
I am sure we can configure a group that pleases all.
We are the PUMAS…Those no one was expecting..Right?
ladyhawkke –
no need to scroll back re Allred. The overwhelming response was just like yours.
New Orleans PUMA – where are you these days since Gustav? It’s 100 degrees in the panhandle
#192 hillaryistheone -
Hey there! The Muslim connection comes through money too – al- Masour, who is connected to the Saudi prince, raised money to fund Obama’s Harvard pedigree and apparently helped him get in.
“Obama has slipped on his own faith by saying “John McCain has not… talked about… My muslim faith”
Of which Stephanopolous carried the water and corrected him by saying “Christian faith”.”
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I saw that this morning and believe it was just a sloppy way of expressing himself. He meant that John McCain didn’t bring up the “Muslim” accusations against obleagh. I heard it as an honest error on oboy’s part.
#193 NewOrleansPuma
lol the white stuff, that’s funny. I love the snow, winter is my favourite time of year.
You can hook up with YNN, she must know places in BC that rarely see snow lol
Middle age female:
That would take a little humility on their part. They will never allow a Clinton as President unless they have no choice. My thought on it is, they are ALL jealous of the Clintons. You have all those failed presidential bids: KERRY, KENNEDY, DEAN, GORE. Then there is Nancy who will NEVER get closer then being the 2nd in line to the Presidency. Why do you suppose that they started grooming Obama right after the 2004 convention?
OBAMA INDOCTRINATING THE YOUTH – from WND The tax-funded Chicago organization cited as a probable model for programs to integrate youth into the social and political world under an Obama tenure in the White House is the epitome of “Big Brother” that shovels impressionable youth through a course of brainwashing, according to critics.The organization is called Public Allies and Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of directors in 1992. He later resigned and his wife became executive director of the group. WND reported earlier when Obama asserted in a Colorado Springs speech that the U.S. needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force. In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”He continued, “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”"Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas,” said IBD. “They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ‘social change.’”The organization itself doesn’t seem that alarming. It describes itself as serving communities “while developing better leaders for tomorrow.” Young adults are placed in “community leadership” posts with various agencies and given weekly “training.” They get $1,800 plus health and child care.But IBD warns the real mission is something else.That, the editorial said, “is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about ‘social change’ through threats, pressure, tensions and confrontation ? the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul ‘The Red’ Alinsky.”
Do we really want this guy to be president? Think about your vote but please vote no for Obama.
#192 hillaryistheone – Another reason to be a NOBO this time and every time.
And perhaps recognition of Barackistan.
We have a lot of positives though. To name a few:
a)Future George or O-reilly interviews and slips there
b)Continued lack of substance
c)No more teleprompter situations
d)BOT World negativities
e) all existing documentation, youtube etc
and finally
f) PUMA Power
#195Dragonfly: I am in beautiful, dawlin New Orleans!
by the grace of God…with electricity! and it is hot outside. but I have the “air” on…Dragonfly, did you know that we call dragonflies here..mosquito hawks?
We love to see them..the more we have the more mosquitos are down! As a child we used to catch them.
I rated their speed: the green and blue ones are very very quick..and of course the big brown ones are like the ole time bombers…slow. I would catch them and then let them go….I love them..so I obviously like your name!
Hey, I’m putting together NObama’s two freudian slips, on top of everything else we know about him:
1: the “57″ states
2: the George Stephanopoulos interview quote
“my Muslim faith”
Wonder what’s really going on.
There is nothing honest about oboy!!!!
New Orleans PUMA.. I agree with your post #100. I was live blogging last night too. Alred was towing the party line for Obama Democrats. She couldn’t convince me to vote for Obama just to have a Dem in the WH. I’d rather eat lint!
I’d rather vote for down ticket Dems and make a protest vote against Obama either by voting McCain/Palin, McKinney or write in Hillary.
This is only my second post so I really don’t have any sense of who you all are as individuals, but I have to say #70 NoHillaryNoVote, you are an amazing strategist. I would hate to ever have to come up against you. (LOL) But you are correct. The percentage of politically active people are tiny! So we want to leverage our time and our effectiveness. Never having tried to do “virtual politics”, this is absolutely new to me. Will there be a place set aside to round up the names of media types that are not completely won over to Senator Obama? The other thing is to figure out the information that those people would be interested in and put it in a format that would be useful. The “harder” and more factual the information, the more useful. I also love the idea of telling the personal stories of PUMAS, but if there is not a sense of the numbers, I am not sure how effective it would be. Personal stories need to be tied to numbers of disaffected Democrats. Is there a poll with that type of question?
#54 1gypsy4mc -
that’s great news, where did you hear it? That McCain’s positions will go to most qualified, regardless of party? Awesome. I also heard, sorry to forget the source, that Obama people recoiled at the idea of gender parity in his administration – there would be no promise of selecting sufficient qualified females to achieve this. Oh yes, it was Dr. Long.
As a lawyer who has specialized in employment law for 13 years, with a drive to eliminating discrimination in employment, I don’t know what party I am seeing anymore. I am PUMA. I can’t say I am a Democrat without saying “PUMA Democrat.”
I saw Obama on ABC this morning. He sounded like a student of Reagan.
Trish, I was just going to mention the BC connection with YNN to NOP.
I personally love the cold and fall and winter are my favorite seasons. But, NOP you could go to Costa Rica and we could have a place to vacation…
pooh..
an obama national youth police force would be extremely deangerous because it could create another group opposing it..and that is very scary
#205 NewOrleans PUMA –
Thanks!
Dragonflies, especially the blue and green ones, are common in my home county and have always interested in me. Then I read about Native American spirituality and the Dragonfly totem – and it fits me now in this stage of life.
Must “dart” now to pick up the little dragonflies, but I wanted to “shout out” to everyone that I love PUMAs.
Roar on!
Dragonfly Rodham PUMA
NObama ’08
HILLARY ’12
190 LaureyPuma
YNN, I am going to do my best. If somehow we fail, do you need a roommate? LOL.
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ah..well, I happen to have some extra real estate so this roomate thing is not totally impossible….
BUT girl, what is this “if somehow we fail” thinking???
The way I see it, precious is running out of A’s in his deck of cards. I really don’t see what he can do from now on that can dramaticlly change the tide against him.
McCain has brought him down from his high horse and now they are fighting a hand to hand combat on the ground, and that is not what precious is good at.
210 Dragonfly Today on Fox and McCain said it. He said some people were going to be mad on the Repub side. He said he will take the most qualified from the Dems, Independents, and/or Republicans for his cabinet. I’m already sure the J. Lieberman will get something, but can’t prove it.
who knows maybe mccain really is a maverick??
pissing off all the other parties is a good sign..
Any Pumas planning on going to see Hillary tomorrow?
154 Asian4Hillary I heard that also. Russian is also going to have “talks” with Iran. Not good!!
wish I had “instant” spellcheck available!
#208PumaDuma: Got ya! You would rather eat lint?
Ha…I love that…I’ll drink to that…I would rather clear out my lint catcher in the dryer too….yum..compared to fraud, lier, sociapathic, (and this one is for you Gloria Allred) Alinsky mongering Obumble.
(((1gypsy4mc ))) I was just thinking about you a min. ago ! We had a TON of rain from Gustav and one of the girls horses ( Buck) came up lame yesterday
So I have been out there all day soaking and cleaning and wrapping his poor hoof (abcess ).. He’s happy now though because he just got a whole watermelon and the other horses can’t steal it from him !
Dragonfly: dart indeed!..very good..I love the wit of the people here…full of irony and fun!
YNN, Yes, you are right. I pray, I pray you are right. But since I am kind of a planner, I like to keep my options open!
****** JUST GOT THIS EMAIL FROM A FRIEND ****
PASSING IT ON TO YOU….
This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His
references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is said to be Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well known and well respected psychiatrist.
A German’s View on Islam
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II,
owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many
German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our
attitude toward fanaticism. “Very few people were true Nazis,” he
said, “but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more
were t oo busy to care. I was on e of those who just thought the
Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let
it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had
lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost
everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.”
We are told again and again by “experts” and “talking heads” that
Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of
Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified
assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish
the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one
of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who
systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout
Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor- kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.
It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape
victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the
“silent majority,” is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live
in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the
murder of about
20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China’s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese
Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered it s way
across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the
systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by
& nbsp;sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it
not be said that the majority of Rwandans were “peace loving”?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all
our posers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated
of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t
speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one
day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs,
Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and
many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak
up until it was too late.
As for tus who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the
only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who d oubts that the issue is serious and just
deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the
passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself
a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands,
world wide, read this and think about it, and send it on – before
it’s too late.
Emanuel Tanay, M.D.
PASS IT ON PLEASE TO YOUR CONTACTS!!!
THANK YOU FOR THE PRAYERS AND THE WELL WISHES… SIGNING OFF FOR 3 WEEKS…
STAY STRONG, STAY UNITED AND SUPPORT ANYONE BUT OBAMA!!!
TexasTigress: Obviously, Buck has a very good mama…
a whole watermelon …just for him. That will make him feel better, indeed.(It would me..I can tell you!)
I gotta go for awhile Texas and all: Keep the passion fires burning white hot coals, best for barbecue and
defeat of incompetent candidates.
BMW – you are in my family’s prayers for a safe surgery and a speedy recovery !!!!!! ((BMW))
NOP _ Take care “see” ya later !
How does The Confluence work? Do the bloggers have shifts, where they post their pieces at certain times, or do they just post their work whenever they want to?
It seems that unless you caught the reposting, by Riverdaughter, of Dr Long’s magnificent letter on the blog last night… you’re sorta outta luck… real luck. I mean, it’s still there, but working it’s way to the bottom of the blog. Instead you get to caption a photo of the jolly Green Giant with an RV parked near it… to “lighten the mood”.
Just a matter of preference, I guess, that, and if one suffers the consequences of sexism against women.
I guess I should lighten the mood:
1) What is the Pirate fish best known for?
2) How many baseballs wide is home plate?
#226 bmw60…Well wishes here for your speedy recovery! We will miss your great remarks and info!
221 TexasTigress Hope your horse is better. I had never seen an abcess until this past year, but then again I don’t have many rocks, pebbles, etc. I’m sure the watermelon was a great treat!! Missed ya, I’ve been in and out, but have a bunch of other things to do during the week. Rain? You got rain? We had hopes of more, but didn’t really get a whole lot. We need more rain before winter sets in. God you see you – you’re so funny!!
darn it…more typos
#69 jrhed
I totally agree and people need to understand that snopes is not always accurate in that they are run by a husband and wife team trying to research all this information so they are susceptible to being fallible.
Jrhed… there’s been times when I’ve wanted to share some link information with you — is there an email address you wouldn’t mind sharing with me? If so — you can email me at my screen name at aol dot com.
For starters here’s a very telling gaff made when Obama mistakenly refers to his “Muslim” faith rather than “Christian” faith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGMQ5DpVVTM
Obama just subscribed to trickle down economics
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/obama-throws-progressive-taxation-under-the-bus-trickle-down/
Is that true? Obama had a slip today on national television and said “my Muslim faith” ???
That is huge problem for him. Any youtube of this will go viral and it is surely going to sink him.
# 70 NoHHillaryNoVote Strategy
Joel Millman (joel.millman@wsj.com) just wrote a piece on Michigan and included information on disaffected Democratic voters. It is in the Wall Street Journal, Sept. 6, Page A1.
On the other hand, AP reporter Jocelyn Noveck wrote an article titled ” Most Clinton Supporters Too Far A Stretch.” Unfortunately, no email at the bottom of the article.
For those of you who have more facts and info than I do (remember, I am a newbie to this site), can you email these two reporters with your story and your info?
Sorry about no links, but I was not kidding when I said that I was new to this virtual politics stuff. I am a door-to-doorer!
#219 1gypsy4mc
“wish I had “instant” spellcheck available!”
~~~~~~
I’ve posted this before but will explain it again.
If you work on a PC and interested in a great little free utility that is a spell check for any program you are working in as well as a dictionary at your fingertips… then you can download this free utility (WordWeb) at
http://wordweb.info/free/
Click on the text that says “Get the Free Download Now”
You can also see images of what the program looks like.
Once installed — WordWeb always runs in the background and you’ll see an icon in the lower-right corner of your taskbar icons (it’ll have a big W on the icon for WordWeb).
To use this program… simply double-click on a word to select (highlight) the word… then click on the W icon and a list of words will appear if it’s mispelled — or a definition will appear if spelled correctly. If mispelled — click on correct spelling choice and click the Replace button and the word will be replaced in your original program (whether it’s in this blog, a web page, email… it’ll even give definitions when reading articles on other websites). As I said, it’ll work with any program and it’s wonderful.
If you have kids… it’s invaluable when they are doing homework. My kids grew up with it installed on all my computers and none of us know how to live without it once you get used to using it.
Here’s a little comic relief….Obamessiah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GVhFFak1k
Gypsy – isn’t it funny how all of your neighbors always know EXACTLY what to do when you have a hores situation ? I have been told everything from “soak it in Pine -Sol ” to lye to motor oil !! ( I’m sticking with epsom salt) LOL We don’t have a lot of pebbles – it’s mostly clay here in the Piny Woods , but when Gustav got here he just sat on us for 3 days ! It worked out though because now everyone is going to get another cutting – hay has been SCARCE the last few years .. Well, I have to go clean the corn I had shipped from Indiana by my folks
I’ll be back later ! 
Oops correction for #236
The AP article is titled “Most Clinton Supporters Say that Palin Is Too Far a Stretch.” That makes more sense!
Back to the Pirate fish?
Joe Biden lays flag on the ground.
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/954ab22f-5437-40ff-aa20-29ad7af10c75
237 mzebest Thank you, I just saved your information. Much appreciated.
Hi PUMAS!
I havn’t been on for a few days , have my car all fixed up bumper stickers added they are in this order, MCCAIN PALIN 08, more executive experience then obama, HILLARY for PRESIdent, Hillary suporters for MCCain. Also have a MCCAIN PALIN yard sign.
For humor and a good laugh go here http://www.peteyandpetunia.com/VoteHere/VoteHere.htm
I read the post upthread about Camp Obama and it chilled me. I know we are not promoting candidacies. But if anyone is inclined to go with McCain/Palin, here is an opportunity to help. I will be donating 10 days of my time in a swing state. I feel the future of our Country is at stake.
volunteer4@johnmccain.com
I read the post upthread about Camp Obama and it chilled me. I know we are not promoting candidacies. But if anyone is inclined to go with McCain/Palin, here is an opportunity to help. I will be donating 10 days of my time in a swing state. I feel the future of our Country is at stake.
volunteer4@johnmccain.com
#167 Lotusboy
Thank you. I had to leave for a bit.
I’m waiting on info from a fellow dem on the McCain site as well and will post here for others who might want to use it.
Just ran into a quote from NRO… I had to read it twice to make sure what I had just read…OMG!
Mark Steyn published a memorable example over at NRO from a chap in Shelton, Washington:
“This abortion prohibitionist hag won’t cut it among women with brains. And BTW she is a good example of reproduction run amok. 5 kids; 1 retard. I wonder if the bitch ever heard of getting spayed.”
How can someone be so damn cude? Esp. on our public radio…
Back on the prowl…
Polls – State by State
CQPolitics.com has up-dated the State by State analysis on September 5.
I am also looking at polls to find the specific questions that are being asked. The Battle Ground poll is very specific as to the questions asked, for example.
(If this line of attack is not helpful … or already done … just let me know.)
Hey don’t want to panic any of the folks in the Keys, Miami and Broward, but I was watching the satellite and I notice IKE took a bob to the North, waiting on the update from the National Hurricane Center , but people in those areas please stop to watch IKE very close NOW.
Am glad Hillary is NOT (keep my fingers crossed) going to do NOBAMA’s dirty work. And to think, just the other day he again said that he was ready to fight and wasn’t going to take it anymore.
I can almost see the tears forming in his eyes.
And prayers to all who may be in IKE’s way.
Take care of yourselves, please… : )
Sometimes I feel sorry for ’61 (speaking as a normal human being with feelings). He has aged so much, he has lost weight (his pants are falling) and he is on the downhill! He sounds boring, exhausted and saying the same things for almost two years must be a drag. And then, almost at the end, when he was so sure he would win in November, he gets smacked with a refreshing, younger female fenomenon, Sarah, who came from a place no one was looking at and strikes him with a bat!
Isn’t this incredible? If McCain proves right with his choice, and Sarah has no legal problems or hidden issues, he becomes the real winner in this long campaign. He came from way behind and at the end, he won the race! Isn’t America a fun place to live in? Aren’t American people incredible? To see people’s reactions, to have the freedom to express it openly, is one of the most precious gifts given to our nation!
Thanks mzebest for the spellcheck info. I downloaded a week or so ago.
BMW60, you may have signed off already, but I sent your article on to friends.
I had a McCain sticker on my car, replacing (sadly) my Hillary sticker. I had to take it off within the week because of: tailgaters and honkers. I now have the Puma Pac sticker on. Sigh. I live in California and can only dream of the state going red in November.
PumaPal and everyone, to follow through with “NoVotes” idea, does anyone have a thought on which direction we should take on mailing the pundits, writer’s, ect. that may champion our position.
To be more concise, what should we write?
If Saul Alinsky is of any concern to any of you, just wait and read what Obama has in store for us should he win the upcoming election.
More than ever, if we’ve ever needed a reason to protest the election of Barack Obama, I promise you after reading this article, any doubts you may have voting against Obama will vanish like a morning mist leaving your vision clear and wide open!
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/
#254 Amarissa …The problem with BO is that he peaked too fast and now he is on a downward spiral…It happened in the primaries with Hillary too…She gained at the end and would have clinched the nomination if it wasn’t for the early caucuses and caucus fraud. I think McCain has a good chance now.
bozzo just dye his hair white, he went to hawaii with his hair all black, he came back with a lot white hairs, unless something traumatic happen there that his hair all of a sudden starting turning white
it is sheer marketing manipulation
laurey..california is already red especially the bay area
ErikaAZ,
I saw your post and was horrified by the Obot’s comment. So much so, that I emailed it along with this question:
Greetings,
I am attaching a comment made by an Obama supporter on NRO radio. Why don’t you tackle this kind of sexism, instead of endorsing a candidate that makes no attempt to address misogyny in the media or in his campain – or by his supporters?
To NOW and Emily’s List.
amarisaaa..poor obama.awwwwwww
# 20 YesSheCan
That’s it – I’m convinced that Kool-aide poisoning can lead to brain damage. I think they should consider Obama’s message to be as damaging as cigarettes and have him completely removed from all media forums.
The McCain/Palin ticket wins 49.7% support, compared to 45.9% backing for the Obama/Biden ticket, this latest online survey shows. Another 4.4% either favored someone else or were unsure.
Zogby
star..
thats why they call it “obama mania” irrational thought patterns and behavior followed by long periods of “tingling “sensations in the leg area
Osaka Puma, Seriously??? Do not tease me!!!! How do you know?
laurey..
i joined OA” obama anonymous” Ive been sober for 6 months now
# 265 osaka puma
Isn’t a tingling in the extremities signs of stroke? Either way these people need immediate medical treatment so they can get off this warped, mind altering, thing they have for Obama.
ANYONE KEEPING TRACK OF OBAMA’S FLIP FLOPS???
HERE’S THE LATEST RELATED TO TAXES:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_el_pr/obama;_ylt=AkTCQtGaShASRf.Amz7eRImyFz4D
Osaka Puma, so you are saying OA is putting something in the water up there?
You were joking. I had a spurt of joy there for a sec.
BMW – My thoughts and prayers are with you. I’m sure all will go well, I know lots of people who have had this same operation and all came out terrific with just a minimum of down time.
I hope that someone who lives in Tampa or nearby can attend Hillary’s speech tomorrow, and let us know what she says. I read yesterday that she has no intention of trashing Sarah. I’m anxious to hear if this is on the level. I sure hope so. I’m also anxious to see what she wears.
star dust..
OMG!!
OBAMA’S LATEST COMMENT ON HIS “ABOVE MY PAY GRADE” COMMENT. In sum, he says it was a tough question and he wouldn’t presume to answer such questions that are more in the realm of theological issues.
Anyone keeping track of this s***? Is there going to be a category in the Action Center called BS?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_el_pr/obama_abortion_question;_ylt=AptvvgLSY81XGjIJgGwcxM.yFz4D
OBAMA’S LATEST COMMENT ON HIS “ABOVE MY PAY GRADE” COMMENT. In sum, he says it was a tough question and he wouldn’t presume to answer such questions that are more in the realm of theological issues.
Anyone keeping track of this s***? Is there going to be a category in the Action Center called BS?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_el_pr/obama_abortion_question;_ylt=AptvvgLSY81XGjIJgGwcxM.yFz4D
hoping in 6 months I’ll be saying “Owhoma???”
This is on Bozo’s blog. So much for him tackling sexism, he can’t even keep it off his website:
From a blogger:
After listening to both speeches from Palin and McCain, this is my conclusion:-
Palin flew in from the north on a broom stick sounded like a toothless rabid pit bull, no bite just wired sounds but I must say the lipstick did enhance the scary look. Funny thing is that she did mark her territory. It totally looked like a scene from dawn of the dead where the crowd were the zombies ready for some human flesh unfortunately what she dished out was not good enough thus she had to fly back to her cave of seclusion to conjure up some new poison.
Blond Lady, You are referring to the color – say orange? Or pants vs. skirts?
Your post made me laugh – I used to attend debate parties with fellow Hillary supporters and invariably someone had to mention her hair, ie: “it looks good today”, etc.
anna..obama meant to say “its above my paygrade…ask rezko”
trish..
you’re killing me!!!
Anna7000, we need a BS file, but I fear it would max out the memory on this site.
#27 murphy on 09.07.08 at 12:42 pm
Read Cannonfire. Read it now.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
via Riverdaughter, natch.
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Highlight of my day along with the polls!
PUMA Power!!! Yea Baby.
255 LauriePuma – I know how you feel, my Hillary bumper stickers never survived the Walmart parking lot. I live in Texas and for the first time in my adult life, I’m proud that Texas is a red state. However, I’m not proud of the voter/caucus fraud.
Hey Trish. Next time we’re chatting can you please help me (teach me) how to get my name to show up on blog radio. I kept trying and couldn’t get it to work. And then people were saying that the guests were all bots and I said I wasn’t, I was a PUMA, I just couldn’t get my name to show up. Then I got told, yeah right.
Was reading the funy read on how now 61 thought about joining the military (that itself made me giggle), but what made me split my sides was, “We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.” Can anyone picture that, still has me laughing… : P
Trish, I sent that blogger comment to Now and Emily’s List. Keep them coming. I may not change anyone’s mind over there, but I may irritate the hell out of them.
#283 webfoot
lol I’ll help you, I did see you when you said who you were. We’ll get it sorted or at least make it say guestofhonour lol
BTW, Hillary did not give up, she did what she had to.
blessings and stay safe.
bbl
valleywitch.
#286 Thank you Trish:-D
Pumas just found out some interesting info:
JODIE FOSTER: A Radical Anti-American Activist who collected over $600,000 in Aid to Islamic Radicals in Iraq,IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER and get this SHE IS A CO-FOUNDER OF CODE PINK!!!!
Oh, that was supposed to be a grin. I’m really losing my computer skills.
ok ok I just have to show one more post from bozo’s site because I so want to share the fun lol, I’m killing myself laughing at this one
“It’s time to unleash our might on the repugs, lets blanket the battleground states with Ads, surrogates, mailings and volunteers. The debates will be a gamechanger and i guess we’ll probably get a 5-7 point bump from that but we need to start raising expectations for John Mccain, he’s the one that has kept on asking for debates remember
“
NoHillaryNoVote Strategy ….
It appears that responding to columnists and reporters does have an impact.
Susan Reimer at the Baltimore Sun was shocked at the response she got. Unfortunately, much of it was rude and nasty … which I think is never helpful. But apparently, it was huge.
US magazine had many subscriptions cancelled.
Also, the advertisers were contacted; don’t know if there will be any fallout from that.
Newspapers and magazines are feeling the heat economically. Part is the internet and part is the economy. But I looked at my local paper and the stories about Palin and just now cancelled it. I will live.
I too need direction. I work long hours, so I don’t have that much time. And I am not so familiar with this environment, so I am not efficient Give us a couple of strategies based on whether we live in a red or blue state. Whether we are “connected” in some way or not. Whether there can be an economic “punishment” metted out for advertisers. Whether certain media types need information and focusing. Just narrow my options in terms of strategy and focus. I can then figure which I can do and stay focused.
There is not a lot of time. The Obama/Biden ticket is not a sure thing, but neither is the McCain/Palin ticket. Lots of things can go wrong for both tickets. But Obama/Biden do have the support of most of the media, and that is a huge advantage. It is not over until it is over.
Thanks for any help in narrowing the strategy and increasing the effectiveness.
277 LauriePuma – Yes, I was thinking orange. i can’t remember the last time I saw Hillary in a skirt, so didn’t even think of that. I did notice that Sarah had on a cute skirt and very high heels. that’s one great thing about being over 60, you don’t have to explain why you don’t wear them anymore.
#210 Dragonfly on 09.07.08 at 4:02 pm
As a lawyer who has specialized in employment law for 13 years, with a drive to eliminating discrimination in employment, I don’t know what party I am seeing anymore. I am PUMA. I can’t say I am a Democrat without saying “PUMA Democrat.”
I think of myself as PUMA Democrat too. Once I started thinking like that, I re-registered Dem. to work on reforming from within the party.
#289 Tillerylakelady, wow, that is very distressing to me. I would have thought pro-woman Jodie Foster would have been a Clinton supporter. Where was that published?
If this is true, I will add her to the list of actors appearing in movies I will not watch.
Reading is much more worthwhile activity anyway. Having worked in the entertainment industry, I know that most of them are twits.
#291 Trish, they actually think they will get a bump from the debates? Must be heavy doses of koolaid this weekend.
31 blogginrock~ peddle your rethoric someplace else~ no way would i vote Barr! are you kidding? GET THE HOSE OUT!!!!!
#292 Pumapal- I like your strategy. My local newspaper wrote something I REALLY didn’t like about Hillary once. I called and told them if they every did something like that again I was cancelling my subscription. And they didn’t do it again. Their coverage is actually quite good. They buried the Hillary article in the sports section. I told them I guess they thought women didn’t read the sports section which was another thing I didn’t like about what they wrote. Hide it where they think the men will see it.
#296 webfoot
It gets better, if they collect 250.00 in donations by the end of tomorrow each person who meets that goals gets to sit in on a conference call with the advisors lol.
I’m trying to figure out what they get for 1000.00 That’s the big prize according to the blog. Neither one of them over there will ever be mistaken for someone with intelligence.
WE COULD START “THE REFORMED PARTY”
Thanks for the clarification Blond Lady. If you find out let us know.
I thought skirts to show a subtle support of Palin…
#289 tillerylakelady
Jodie Evans is the name, not Jodie Foster.
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/JodieEvans.htm
#295LaureyPuma,
Go to youtube and type In (Taxie cab driver kicks out code pink)::: Also Obama was caught saying”MY MUSLIM FAITH” For that one type in (Obama gaff saying my muslim faith) should get ya there. so sorry on the mistake.
@ 289 & #302
Here is more on Jodie Evans, including a picture of her with Hugo Chavez…and Cindy Sheehan. Hmmm.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/meet-code-pinks-sugar-mommy-jodie-evans
tillery:
Here’s the video of Obama accidentally saying “my muslim faith.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw
with all this trash and filth that is going on in the DNC
I see bozzo as a pawn, I still do not who is the king and queen, like A marissa said he looks down, what kind of game they are playing,???? maybe the queen is ms bozzo¡¡¡¡, who knows¡¡¡
OK ,go to you tube and type in(code Pink kicked out of cab by veteran) Your right it was Jodie Evans,don’t even know where I got Foster so sorry.
well, over on his blog they’re gettingworried, many of bozo’s faithful are admitting he is going to lose in november, they’re blaming the media, accussing them of favouring McCain. And they’re saying no other candidate had to be perfect so why should Bo
lol right, they demanded Hillary be perfect and then still stabbed her back.
Thanks Kat in your hat for clearing that up. I like Jodie Foster. LOL.
No HillaryNoVote Strategies
Let me suggest two:
1. Contacting advertisers. There would need to be a central clearing place to link the advertisers to the offending material. A even better strategy would be to focus on advertisers based on the importance of the media outlet and the perceived vulnerability. If the effort is too diluted, it will not do much good. (The analytical skills of NoHillaryNoVote and others would be helpful here). This is where a clear analysis and strategy would really pay off.
2. Writing (respectfully) to columnists and reporters. There would need to be a central clearing place to list the columnist with the offending material. Again, analysis and strategy would ramp up the effectiveness.
Both require time and dedication to do. Is this even possible?
Wow you guys are so great!! Really up on stuff.
Thanks again
PumaPal and everyone,
Can we start with one? Everyone send in an email or snail mail letter to an advertiser, say Johnson & Johnson?
The Chronicles Of The Obamessiah, Volume II: In The Temple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ted9Hzn8foY
Trish, I love your resolve to infiltrate the enemy and report back.
I also love that the tables are turning on them.
While standing on a street corner in Denver with Daddy’s Darlin (where is she, btw?) an Obot drove by in a limo and said exactly:
“Hillary need to get over she a loser”
To which I yelled back: “Well, your boy will know that feeling soon enough.”
#304 Kat interesting reading about code pink and jodie evans and cindy sheehan.
There is a John McCain meeting 1 mile away from me on Friday, and I RSVPed.
Off to send my letter to Gloria that I will be volunteering in her honor.
#312 LaureyPuma
Where did Johnson & Johnson advertise? US?
If so, we need the date of the issue and the article name. I know that the cover was insulting, but what was in the internal article? The more precise and rational the letter or email, the more effective.
So, for now, where does Johnson & Johnson link up? Then we assemble the foundational information and launch. Or should I say … POUNCE?
From another blog, about Palin as a working mother…
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/sarah-palin-can-have-it-all/#more-4633
There is a comment on that blog that I thought should be spread. This is an alphabetized reasons for NO BO
Comment by karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now) | 2008-09-07 16:57:29
off topic.
Somebody asked me yesterday what I have against obama… well, how do I count the ways? For starters:
The ABC’s of BO
57 + 1 = number of states he visited in the US
99 problems but a bitch ain’t one
Ayers, William and Thomas
Auchi, Nadhami
Acorn
Alsammarae, Aiham
Annie Oakley
Apostate Muslim
Author of two fictional biographies
Axelrod, David
Brzezinski,Zbigniew
Bundlers millions of $$$
Black Liberation Marxist Theology
Blogovitch, Rod
Banking Committee he said he led
Brandenburg Gate
Biden – all that hoopla for change agent Joe
Bitter people clinging to guns and religion
Bros before Hoes
Blame Hillary – chief primary strategy
Civilian National Security Force
Camp Obama – Free indoctrination
Caucus fraud
Cell phone ringing
Chicago Annenberg Challenge
Code Pink
COLB photoshopped
Cone, James
Daley, Richard
DKos aka great orange satan
Davis, Frank Marshall
Davis, Allison
Dem for a Day
DEBATES *put foot in mouth here*
Dohrn, Bernadine
Doyle, Patty Solis
Edwards, John the diversion and in cahoots
Exelon radioactive drinking water and $$$
Fake Presidential Seal
FISA
Flag Pin and throwing out flags
First time in my life I’m proud of my country
Farrakhan, Louis lifetime achievement award
Florida and Michigan block revotes
Free music, beer and food to draw crowds
GAFFES (personal favorite – Soviet Union)
Gary, Indiana vote early, vote often, count really late
Get in line and Get over it
Goolsbee, Austin Nafta for Canucks
Harry and Louise ad part deux
Hamas Manifesto and endorsement
Hopey changey ad nauseam
Huffy Puffy
Inflate your tires energy plan
Jackson, Jesse Jr Tears for Katrina
Jackson, Jesse Sr. Cut his nuts off
Johnson, Hazel the real community activist
Jones, Emil
Khalidi, Rashid
Kilpatrick, Kwame
Killer-Spin
Lee, Spike Chocolate city
Ludacris
Maytag
Kahlid Al-Mansour
Marzook
McPeak, General
Meeechelle
Meeks, James
Moss, Otis
MSNBO aka General Electric
Moveon
Nation of Islam volunteers
National Anthem
New Black Panther party
Operation board games
Obongo Obama
Odinga, Ralia (Dick Morris and cousin ob)
O-Farce One
Pfleger, Father
Powers, Samantha Monster
Pritzker, Penny
Pets and dead people voting
Periodic moods feeling down
Public Financing
Puff Daddy obama or die
Punjab Hillary
Palmer, Alice
Quadaffi
RBC May 31, 2008
Racist Bill, Hillary, Gerry and all non-koolade drinkers
Rhodes, Randi
Recreate 68
Rezko the lord of the slums
Rulz are da Rulz ‘cept when they are the rules
Spring break in Pakistan 1981 during Jihad
Soros, George
Sweetie
Tea parties – all Hillary ever did
Teamsters oversight
Temple of Doom at Invesco
TUCC
Typical White Person
Ummmmmmmm
Union workers in Vegas had their own caucus sites
Victory declared shouldn’t have included SD’s
WAFFLE, Can I just eat my
Wright, Jeremiah GD America
Woods Fund
W.O.R.M.
X, Malcolm
Your likeable enough
Young, Donald RIP
Zero – what the big O stands for
Zee assorted dem mob – Kennedy, Kerry, Oprah, Caroline, Nancy, Dean and Donna Brazilenut
My cat Sophie is having kittens as I type,any good suggestions for names? I already have cats named Maxwell,Bootsie,Snow,Sugar,Spice…..
#310 Puma Pal-writing to advertisers/reporters
Here’s the text of an email I wrote to the Today Show the Wednesday morning of the Republican Convention. Something interesting happened about 20 minutes after I sent it. Dr. Phil “popped in” to chat with Kathy Lee Gifford and they both had nice things to say about Gov. Palin. Maybe a coincidence. I’ll never know.
To Whom It May Concern,
The Today Show has been my morning show of choice. I have been disturbed by most of the NBC sexist coverage of Sen. Clinton but still stayed with the your morning show. It certainly helped that you had sixteen days of coverage of the Olympics.
Your continued sexist coverage moving to Gov. Palin and her daughter is abhorent. This morning you had Dr. Phil on the show to discuss teenage pregnancy. You people still do not get it. The questions being asked would not be asked of a man.
In addition to the sexism displayed, the bias toward Obama is obvious. Kathy Lee Gifford’s remark after the pick of Gov. Palin was, “Has she ever even been
out of Alaska?” Gov. Palin is an executive (governor) of a state with a higher population than Sen. Biden’s state of Delaware.
I hope that every person on your staff who has treated Senator Clinton, Governor Palin, and Governor Palin’s daughter with disrespect examines his or her
conscience. And feels shame. And vows to tell the producers that the sexism stops today. Someone at NBC has to take the high road and say no to the blatant
condemnation of women that has become standard operating procedures in your broadcasting format. I hear anchors talking about negative campaigning. It is
time to take a look at yourselves and see your negative reporting.
I was stunned to hear comments about wondering if Gov. Palin was properly vetted by Sen. McCain. These comments from the media that WAS not, and is STILL not, concerned about whether or not Obama was properly vetted. Obama has stated his records from his years as a state Senator are lost. He does not provide any documentation to answer questions about his birth. His associations with felons is ignored. Yet the media is spending time on Gov. Palin’s teenage daughter because Gov. Palin will be “…a heartbeat away from the “presidency.” What about the proper vetting of the guy who actually WANTS the presidency? Oh wait, that’s right. He’s a man. He’s entitled to it. The women have to be dissected.
If you really want to know how much more Gov. Palin is qualified that Sen. Obama all you have to do is look at your own coverage. You are grasping at straws to find something negative to comment on about her such as a pregnant teenage daughter. Gov. Palin didn’t associate with Rezko, a convicted felon. She didn’t lose her records of her years in public service. She actually worked in her position as governor of Alaska versus Obama who spent his years in the Senate campaigning for president. Well, he did work 143 days and vote “present” most of the time when he was there.
How about some real coverage. I am so disappointed in NBC.
I think we should be careful about trashing people who support Obama. Everyone has the right to support who they want. What we are fighting against is the tactics of used by the DNC and the Obama camp to take over the caucuses, not count the delegates in Michigan and Florida, and the blatant sexism in the media. Despite the fact that we do not support Obama, I think we should respect other people’s right to disagree with our choice.
318, Deadgirlsrise. WOW.
I am pliagerizing this and sending it to everyone I know.
How bout Sarah, nice name these days ; )
that was for tennaseepuma meowwwwwwww
Kitty#one is here…
#317, PumaPal, my apologies, Johnson & Johnson is an advertiser on MSNBC. I will find out who is a big advertiser on US Weekly and post later today.
#318 deadgirlrising-for your alphabet list:
liar
flip-flop
flipped off Hillary
wishy-washy
President (has “accidently” said he is president twice at least)
one little puma
RE-POST OF AN EXTRAORDINARILY THOUGHTFUL PIECE BY LYNETTE LONG. (Thanks to Dances who posted it originally on yesterday’s blog)
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/a-letter-from-lynette/
RE-POST OF AN EXTRAORDINARILY THOUGHTFUL PIECE BY LYNETTE LONG. (Thanks to Dances who posted it originally on yesterday’s blog)
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/a-letter-from-lynette/
#297 SouthJerseyPUMA
There’s our b@tt kickin’ PUMA in action.
Hi Jersey.
Looks like a Calico…….
little meow #1
# 319 tennaseepuma
Congratulations on the new furry additions to your family!
#2 On the way……
# 319 tennaseepuma
I like Soot or Shadow for dark kittens
Mischief for trouble makers
NoHillaryNoVote Strategies
#326 LaureyPuma – Good! Do you know on which programs on MSNBC J&J advertise? Let’s try to get as much specific info. The program and what was said.n Help us other Puma’s!!!
#320 webfoot. Good job. My suggestion is to keep just to one point. They won’t spend much time reading any letter. They skim. So, any subtle points are not important. Keep it very short and save yourself your precious time. They have assistants that don’t have a dog in this fight and simply report negatives. Good for you for jumping on the opportunity!
Here’s the headline from today’s New York Post — that’s one of our sensationalistic tabloids:
Lady Killer: Hill to Check Hocky Mom
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09072008/news/nationalnews/hillary_plays_a_dem_fatale_127859.htm
And here’s the article itself:
Hillary Plays a “Dem” Fatale: Will Stump in Fla. to Parry Palin Appeal
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09072008/news/nationalnews/hillary_plays_a_dem_fatale_127859.htm
This requires no comment from me. Look at the pictures and you will see what I mean …
NYCgirl
article in LA Times says Hill avoided saying anything neg bout Sarah.
“Hmm, Hillary Clinton ducks chance to attack new GOP star Sarah Palin”
nymore little pumas yet, tennaseepuma?
#2, welcome! : )
NoHillaryNoVote – Economic strategy.
Anyone who has a subscription to THE ATLANTIC magazine might want to reconsider. The piece on Hillary’s campaign was gotten by persuading some of her staff to share staff memos that were written during the campaign and then interpreting them more broadly. Ugh!
Sorry, the first link to the NY Post article was supposed to be:
Hill to Check Hockey Mom
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09072008/frontback.htm
Click on the picture to get to the article.
NYCgirl
Hillary Acknowledgment
Fox News commentator (Brit Hume?) just said that if Obama does not get elected, the turning point would have been when he did not choose Hillary as VP. Juan Williams was on the panel and did not look happy although he did not disagree.
hi all pumas~
fox news “fox sundays” is telling the race as it is! 61′s “change” is nothing more than “same old pre clinton ways”! they all agree! so much for his change! they are saying McCain needs to address more directly on his intentions, which i think he is sitting on for a reason!
Stardust you have officially named one of kittens…Shadow….if I get a dark one I like soot too……
Sweet tennaseepuma
i cant believe after the way hillary was treated and slapped in the face by not even being veeted!!!!! WILL go out to attack Palin!!!! I am losing respect for her if this comes to be true!!! she shouldnt do squat for 61!!!!!!!!!!!!!! say she is not feeling well or anything to not get involved!!!
A reminder why I can’t quit on the NObama mission:
Barack Obama says his answer about abortion at the Saddleback Church forum was “probably” too flip….Now, Obama tells ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in an interview taped for “This Week”: “What I intended to say is that, as a Christian, I have a lot of humility about understanding when does the soul enter into … It’s a pretty tough question. And so, all I meant to communicate was that I don’t presume to be able to answer these kinds of theological questions.”
Obama goes on to give the answer he wishes he’d given: “What I do know is that abortion is a moral issue, that it’s one that families struggle with all the time. And that in wrestling with those issues, I don’t think that the government criminalizing the choices that families make is the best answer for reducing abortions.
This sounds a LOT like MO’s back pedaling when she was trying to pull her foot out of her mouth over the “for the first time in my adult life…” remark.
……“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. ”
As if CONSIDERING the military is even relevant next to McCain’s ACTUAL military record
hi billiejo~ i am in slow mode today~ :/
Asian4Hillary
SOOO good to see you again !!!
Don’t ever lose focus of what is important here – making sure Obama is not elected.
Keep your ideas coming and keep sharing.
We have one focus – No Obama.
Hello everyone,
This is Texas Turtle once again and not my boyfriend (domestic partner) Texas Pony. I still can’t get registered for some reason so please forgive me coming in this way. In case you have forgotten who I am I will give you a quick run down once more. I am a former Navy Seal and then Firefighter/EMT, though I no longer do that job as I couldn’t bear dealing with the kiddos anymore. Seeing their torn bodies in cars or abuse they suffer at someone’s hand.
Anyway I digress, before I do get started I would like to apologize up front to anyone who by the end of this is offended and especially to Murphy if it seems I high jacked anything as neither is my intent, so here goes…
*Sigh*
My fellow Americans (You will understand why I call everyone that in short order); I come to you tonight broken hearted. I do not see any Liberals, Conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Pumas here today/tonight. I don’t see red, yellow, black, white, purple, green, pink, any color, race, religion, gender, or sex. I come to you as Americans.
September 11th is close at hand, please, PLEASE bear with me, do not go away. I am not here to talk about war, or use the blame game. I am here as I said broken hearted. I am thirty five years old and this is the worst election I have seen in my entire life. While many of you are probably older and can remember many others I will tell you I am a very well read person who loves History and knows quit a bit. Damn, I’m sorry I am digressing again. I may wonder from time to time as I am so emotional right now.
As I was saying this is the worst I have ever seen and in my belief the worst in history. September 11th brought this nation closer than we have even been before, I dare say even more than Pearl Harbor. All of us then as I am doing now didn’t see any of what I mentioned above, what we saw were Americans. We all bled Red, White, and Blue that day. We stood shoulder to shoulder in solidarity. Now seven years later as we come up to that date I don’t think we have been more separated as a country than we currently find ourselves today. As the years have passed we have lost more and more of the spirit we found on that horrible day.
Today we see everything, Liberals, Conservatives, Democrat, Republican, red, yellow, black, white, blue, purple, green, pink, and every color in between. We see each race, religion, gender, and sex. I will admit that I am very guilty of this myself. It is the Civil War all over again. North against South, brother against brother, so forth and so on. I painfully wonder how we have gotten here and sunk this low. The world watched us very carefully that day to see what would happen. We showed the world we were first and foremost AMERICANS and we stood UNITED.
Ladies and Gentlemen the world is watching again, very closely once more. They are watching us and this election. We; all of us have failed; we have failed as a Nation. We are divided; we have been and are tearing each other and this Nation apart. In this way even though it is seven years later and not as soon as they would have liked, we have given the terrorists exactly what they wanted; we are today as a nation divided, thus allowing the terrorists to win, if not by their actual deed, then in principal.
It seems to me on September 11th we only go through the motions, nothing more, nothing less. On that day and several weeks to follow seven years ago you couldn’t buy a flag to save your soul as they flew out of stores, while internet sites had warnings up they were out or backlogged weeks to months. I have a huge collection of books on Sept 11th the stories I have read and what I saw on TV during that time and weeks to follow where nothing less of phenomenal.
We as a nation became heroes, in one town after a candle light vigil on the 12th as the Adults stood around after it ended wondering what they could do next the kids (ranging from 3 and up) answered that very question. They stood on one of the corners clutching their American flags jumping up and down screaming as passing cars, “Honk if you love America!” Cars all around began blaring horns, flashing headlights, or yelling back, “We do, we love America!” Those kids didn’t scream, “Honk if you’re Republican or honk if you’re Democrat. They screamed, “HONK IF YOU LOVE AMERICA!”
A couple from Arkansas upon seeing this greatest hour of need rented a U-Haul trailer, went to every last place in the town they lived and bought all the rakes and shovels there was to be bought. They drove non-stop save going to the bathroom, they packed food and switched out, but drove non stop to New York to Ground Zero to give their love. Their country had called and they had answered. They never asked when they bought those items from the owners of those stores if they were Republican or Democrat, nor did they when they handed them out.
A mother whose husband had lost his job and had been out of work for over two months, whose family was barely scraping by was asked by her six and eleven year olds why this happened, and a million other whys. Questions she couldn’t readily answer. After dropping her kids off to school their questions haunted her. While she was shopping at a Wal-Mart she found some red, white, and blue ribbon that cost a whole forty-four cents. She decided they could afford that, she bought it and made ribbons for her, her husband, and her kids. Her daughter pinned hers to her favorite teddy bear. Her mom thought she did so, so she wouldn’t lose it, she couldn’t have been further off. The girl then took her most precious teddy bear and handed it to her mom asking, “Can we send him to New York.” Her mom got tears in her eyes and said “Yes we can do that.” Later that night while she lay in bed she had an idea and Operation Teddy Bear was born. I’m sure you seen this as it made National News. They ended up sending over one thousand bears and never once did anyone ask if the receiver was Republican or Democrat.
After the civil war had ended, it seems that Columbia, South Carolina was still struggling to recover from the devastation of that war. The New York Firemen’s Association heard the city was still using bucket brigades to fight fires. The New Yorkers, many of them former Union soldiers took up a collection to buy Columbia a fire wagon. That wagon was lost (destroyed) during shipment, so they took up another collection. Former Confederate Col. Samuel Melton was so overwhelmed that he promised on behalf of South Carolina’s Capital to someday return the favor, “should misfortune ever befall the Empire City.”
When middle school students from White Knoll found out about this 134 year old debt they began in earnest to pay it back. They raised $447,265.00 to present to New York’s mayor. That covered the cost of one $350,000.00 truck/engine and a little to spare to buy whatever else the fire dept. needed. While all the adults asked how much does it cost, the kid’s only concern was who was going to get to drive it. Those kids raised that money, kids. They repaid that debt and kept their states promise. They never asked if the people getting it were Democrat or Republican. They cared because they were Americans, they owed a debt, a promise needed kept, and their country called.
How many of us emptied our wallets, checked on neighbors, gave blood, stood in line longer and was a lot more patient with everyone, and how many of you asked who you we helping or being patient with, or checking on, how many of you asked if they were Republican or Democrat? I could go on and on, but let me ask you. How many of you have heard stories or witnessed them, how many of you have your own stories?
I am now misting up I’m so broken up by all this, how selfish we have become, how divided. Well I’m sorry, I can’t do it anymore. Actually I refuse to. I won’t bash my candidate’s opponent anymore. I know we have to have elections and I know they has to be a winner and a loser, but I won’t be party to tearing this country, this nation I love so much apart anymore. A nation I have bled for, cried for, sweated for, and killed for. I would ask all of you for only two things if I might be so bold.
On 9-11 don’t just go through the motions be a part of that day. Put bickering, party, race, color, religion, all of it aside for the entire day. Fly your colors (red, white, and blue); check on your neighbor, being more patient that day. Show the world once again that we are united once more. Even if for just one day.
Under this exact letter on my blog (link below) I have put up a few items for all Americans and to show unity once more. The second thing I would ask is this, if you have a blog or website to copy and paste this letter and link to your own blog or website, or even email it to your friends. I am striving for us to be united once more on 9-11, just for the day. I have placed this here so early in hopes this will draw as much attention as possible leading up to and the day of 9-11. I just want us to get along for one day, like we did seven years ago. If you believe in what I have stated or asked please show your support by commenting on my blog under this post by following the link provided.
Please let us show the world once again we are united I’m asking; no even as a man and former Seal, I’m begging you. Please don’t let me down, please show me were still good.
Good bless each and every one of you, God bless America our great nation.
I Love you one and all;
Texas Turtle
http://texasturtle.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/911-tribute-my-fellow-americans-republicans-democrats-unite/
#347 SouthJerseyPUMA
Hillary’s camp has officially stated that Hillary will NOT engage Gov. Palin personally, but will direct her criticisms to McCain, since he is the presidential candidate, not Palin. They have said that Hillary will stick to substantive differences between the Dems and Repubs policies, and not get into any kind of personality issues with Palin.
Of course, the media will push the “cat fight” angle any way they can.
Just look at the picture:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09072008/news/nationalnews/hillary_plays_a_dem_fatale_127859.htm
Then click on that image to enlarge it and read the fine print.
NYCgirl
(((((((( Yard sign)))))))))))
I still have my Hillary yard sign in my yard and my neighbors want to know how long I am leaving it up. So today I ordered a new one and it say’s:
My Hillary vote is going to John McCain
I Love It!
#320 Webfoot….LOVE your letter to NBC!!!!
#293 blondlady
LOL about the heels over 60. Amen!
thx nycgirl~
zephyr Thank you.
#353 pookie Great yard sign!
pookie i want one!!! can i send you a check? lol.. (serious!)
Texas Turtle:
I am proud of Americans pulling together after 9/11. None of us will ever forget that day and the weeks following. But now the mission is just as great. Many of us belief that an Obama presidency could ultimately bring destruction to America. I am one of them. I’m not just “mad” because I don’t “like” the guy. I love my country and I believe he is a threat to our security and the very foundation of all that we stand for. Therefore, if I must be divided from those who would stand by and watch– or even worse contribute to this destruction, then so be it.
PUMAS in the headlines:
“The PUMAs are starting to love Palin because every single adult woman has stories of being patronized, passed over, etc., by men, and Palin has already shown that she will gut anybody who tries that on her.”
“Get this: I’ve now heard dozens of times that when Palin was trashing Obama, PUMA members say they were jumping up and down in their homes, screaming at the TV, in absolute flabbergasted wonder at this woman’s power, ease, style, grace, brains, and ability to speak and connect with the audience. ”
“Several feminists are now predicting a McCain-Palin landslide”
http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/09/06/palin-punditry-you-wont-see-in-the-papers-or-on-the-tv-news/
SouthJerseyPuma: I got it on cafepress.com
got to take some pain meds… uggg my neck n head! be back in 30~ pookie let me know!!
BMW, good luck with your surgery. I’ve had knee surgery, not real fun, but you’ll be up and about before you know it.
Good food tip while recuperating: salmon, blueberries, blackberries, and lots of vitamin C ascorbate. Reduces swelling, you’ll be much more comfortable.
POOKIE~ e a link at americaol
yuck, gots to drag myself and get some shopping done… everyone be good : )
see you erica and south jersey…..
I THOUGHT I WOULD RE-POST THIS ACTION ALERT WHICH I RECEIVED FROM CLINTON DEMOCRATS YESTERDAY
http://www.clintondems.com
I KNOW THAT MANY WOMEN OUT THERE DO NOT WANT TO SEE A “CAT FIGHT” BETWEEN HILLARY AND GOV. PALIN.
I PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT TO SEE WOMEN PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER IN ORDER TO GET *MEN* ELECTED.
HERE’S WHAT CLINTONDEMS SENT OUT:
ACTION ITEM
Please contact Hillary Clinton and let her know that you do not want to see her jump into a media mud-wrestling contest with Sarah Palin as has been suggested by so many Obama loyalists.
This would be offensive on so many levels and will add nothing positive to the debate. A backlash against her would certainly ensue. Please encourage Hillary to keep comments relevant to McCain’s policies only. After all, he is the one running for President.
Friends of Hillary
4420 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
Headquarters: 703.469.2008
Fax: 703.962.8600
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
New York Residents can contact her here:
http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm
Washington, D.C.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
United States Senate
476 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4451
General Fax: (202) 228-0282
NYCgirl
bmw60-Prayers for you for your knee surgery and healing afterwards. I have had three knee surgeries so definitely feel for you. The knee is doing great though.
PumaDuma
My girlfriend and I were two of those pumas jumping up and down while listening to Palin go after BO…love it!
ok lurking in the forum at HC and saw this…
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=25961
* i hope you can read it (?)
371# sorry forgot to add;
that post is about
**Massive Fraud Planned In Ohio**
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=25961
TexasPony – Thanks for your heartfelt words. The other day I had to start teaching my students who were just babies on 9-11 about the significance of that day, and it was hard for me to even get the words out–I choked up. The kids were stunned. They had no idea there were people in the world who hate us that much. And they didn’t understand how much that day wounded every American.
There are moments in time when every cell in my body knows something is wrong. I knew it on March 19, 2003 when Bush ordered the assault on Iraq. But now I pray and support our soldiers in their efforts to complete their mission.
I knew it the first time I laid eyes on BO. I knew he was a glory seeker. His presidency would be consumed with paybacks to those who had to hold him up on that fence post. It’s all about him. Tonight on FOX they showed an electoral map that still gives BO the edge, because he can get the states with so many electoral votes. It depressed me. It is so very wrong.
So, I hear you loud and clear regarding our passionate fighting–I get it. But I believe this is a worthy fight–we just don’t need to tear our opponents to shreds.
————
A suggestion for our PAC: If we can run commercials on TV, we already have portions within “The Audacity of Democracy” that are worthy–especially the testimonials of voter fraud in the Texas caucuses. I think those would be very effective. Do we need to raise money for the air time? I know it’s a lot–YouTube is cheaper, but that is some POWERFUL stuff.
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BMW – hope your surgery goes real well.
#19 DancesWithPumas on 09.07.08 at 12:23 pm
MURPHY
We have an AMAZING treasury of references. It’s almost so good I dont want to share it outside of Puma PAC.
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Too bad we don’t have password protection for the Action Center. I don’t know…just hate to see the countercreeps feed off of all the PUMAs contributions to the AC.
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I agree, maybe certain refs could only be accessible to members approved by an email to a big paw like Murphy, Mama or Maryland. That would keep obots out.
OBots post our prowls in our emails on the Obot blog.
Don’t forget to listen in to Sheri Tag’s program: NO WE WON’T . She’ll be discussing caucus fraud Oscrewthevoters and his thugs commited in order to steal the nomination and undermine the electoral processes.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingLeft/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/08/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO
#373
…and specially if continue with what they practiced in the primaries FRAU
#318 deadgirlsrise
I love the list too. May I use it. I will add some things like Breakfast roll call vote, Voter fraud, and whatever else. Would that be okay with you?
GUESSING ABOUT CLINTON/PALIN
Do not underestimate Clinton. BO is such a narcissist that I do not believe he would “send” her. I believe it is “The Party”. BO is failing.
If we believe in our own values and that Clinton and Palin are both good women who love their country (and want to win), they will lead by example and keep to the issues and stick to the facts. They will promote themselves, their party and their gender. That is the only way either can win.
#203 pooh496 – Sounds frighteningly similar to what Hitler did in Germany.
#371
WAKE UP REPUBLICANS OR YOU WILL HAVE THIS GENERAL ELECTION STOLEN FROM YOU LIKE WE HILLARY SUPPORTERS DID IN THE PRIMARY.
WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICAN BIG TANKS WE ALL SAW AGAINST US IN EVERY OTHER ELECTION?
OBAMA IS CORRUPT TO THE BONE AND WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOOP HOLES!!! WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH PUMAS IN ALL VOTING AREAS OF THE U.S. SO YOU NEED TO HELP OUT WITH THIS!!!!
In Ohio, Republicans are clearly not pleased with same-day registration and voting and have not ruled out a lawsuit against Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner’s office.
“You have to wonder, when they look at what they consider a loophole with such excitement,” said Jason Mauk, the Ohio Republican Party’s executive director. “That would suggest manipulating the process, and I think opens the door to suspicion.”
The voting window, so far, is only being implemented in some counties – typically, urban areas or those with college campuses – leading Republicans to cry foul.
*** FROM JUSTSAYNODEAL.COM ***
V O X B O X
“We, as supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton,
are alarmed by the vile denigration of Sarah
Palin and her family by unsavory elements of
the media glitterati and the fringe left. These
sensationalist bigots attack Gov. Palin’s
motherhood, insinuating that she cannot achieve
what male Vice-Presidents have done for
decades in balancing family life and executive
duty. We wonder why this has never been asked
of John McCain, father of seven; Barack
Obama, father of two; nor of Joe Biden, who
began his Senate career as a widowed father of
two.
Sexism from the chattering classes diminishes
Gov. Palin’s successful gubernatorial
experience, ignoring her credentials as an
executive who managed a $10 billion budget and
her record as a reformer who fought the good-ole-
boys in her own party and won. We wonder
where the outrage was when John Edwards – a
one-term Senator with no foreign policy
credentials or executive experience – ran for Vice-
President and President. We wonder also why
the media does not question the inexperienced
Obama – who has spent his single Senate term
running for President.
We stop our wondering when we note that Gov.
Palin is a woman while these others are men.”
Nobama. Nobiden. November. NODEAL.
659 NoHillaryNoVote on 09.07.08 at 1:09 pm
Great post. I totally agree and copied your suggestions to reference when I need some reminders for my letters.
Storytellers – Agree –I think this is a very vulnerable spot for the Dems–the party that always made the appearance of taking the “high road” and being “for all the people.” The voter fraud in Texas and other states is just about the stinkiest, ugliest scar one can prove right now, while the evidence is fresh. It would also put them “on notice” that they have been caught. The documentary we helped support has many uses–RIGHT NOW!
This is real dynamite against their image of “Hope & Change” and serves the larger purpose here as well: to build a more honorable political party in which more Americans can find a home. I know people will be stunned to see what Democrats did to each other–the message needs to be out there.
#172 McCain is much smarter than they think.
As for Sarah, she is going to kick some a@@. I think they will be running from her.
I am really pulling for her. I know she isn’t Hillary, but it would be a great achievement for all women.. That
glass ceiling would come down once and for all.
=^..^=
All of you PUMAs that post on Republican blogs and sites, please pass all this fraud info over to them. We have to warn them.
From BO’s own mouth in this video:
“How you campaign foreshadows how you’re going to govern”
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9630605&ch=4226716&src=news
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That’s enough right there to move me to action!
Besides the fact that he’s talking in circles and exhibiting traits of a habitual liar. Read the following traits of a habitual liar and then watch the video:
“(Habitual liars) often make the story up as they go along, meaning they have to stall for time, here and there. They do so by repeating questions from you, or saying “What?”, so you’ll have to repeat it while they think about it for a few seconds….People that are telling the truth can tell the same story consistently, over and over. They rarely have to go back and add something they forgot to mention. Liars, on the other hand, often fill in details as you ask questions. Then, if you say, “why didn’t you tell me that before?”, they’ll often say they had simply forgotten that detail.
People telling the truth misstate themselves, stutter, or repeat themselves far less often than someone that is lying. The liar pauses longer than he should, corrects his story, adds or takes away from the tale – even accuses you of misunderstanding what he originally said….The eyes tell a lot about if a person is lying or telling the truth. The innocent person will look you directly in the eyes without hesitation. The guilty person will avert his eyes, refuse to look you directly in the eyes, or will be unable to look at you for a length of time.
When a liar is trapped, and thinks it might all come out, he’ll usually become angry and/or confrontational.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/190733/signs_to_look_for_to_spot_a_liar.html?page=2&cat=47
Need to find out why this has not made it the MSM. Anyone have a friend in the Newspaper business?.
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed .
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
Can someone please list big Repub sites I can dump some info on to warn them? Over to the dark side………geez, what has this election become?
NYT prepares to front expose on Palin’s baby…developing…(druge)
I can’t believe it!! What now…when will the media stop this madness?!
http://www.drudgereport.com/
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=28318
pookie i found that sign! thanks
http://www.redstate.com/
GUESSING ABOUT THE MISSING YEARS
BO’s missing years are basically his undergraduate college years. He will not release transcripts and did not graduate with honors. So either his curriculum was controversial and/or his grades were poor. Remeber the comparison to McCain? Well, the Navel Academy was McCain’s undergraduate work. So that is apples and oranges.
BO met MO in Law Scool. Maybe that is how he got his good grades and started to achieve things? Maybe, he himself, is not so smart.
Another one
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/
There is another movement in love with the chosen one. it is called THEWHISPERSFANCLUB-SOUTH@yahoogroups.com . I was livid as i recieved a letter from them to watch some stupid video against Mccain that never did come up and I replied to never bother me again. Recieved it from a freind i used to work with and she wrote back that i was racist and i sure am not and never would be one.
#387 Snoopy
I sent the notice of the Lawsuit to all the relevant email addresses I could find. They know. No one wants to touch it.
Just think what they would have to acknowledge to believe it is a credible issue. I think they are waiting for some validity to be assigned to the charges. We need to watch and communicate.
Headclunker
GUESSING ABOUT THE MISSING YEARS………..
Better be a good guesser………………
Take away the BS and the missing years are from 1961 to 2008.
The only records recovered so far is the Indonesian school record.
This is the Daily News i suppose you all saw this allready about Obama using Hillary and other women to go against Palin,
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_sarah_palin_may_have_women_ flocking__to_.html
#394 sandipuma – You’re in good company. ANYONE committed to voting Nobama in November is being called a racist, among other things.
PUMA Democrat from ne PA
Nobama. Nobiden. November. NODEAL.
#397 Sandipuma
That link did not work.
it makes me so angry because when i asked her what has he ever done in a e-mail back to her she wrote a lot of Changes i also spit the water out of my mouth onto my screen
Grassroots idea:
An idea came to me while pow wowing in my own head today.. you all know about those little tupperware type home parties from long ago… You invite people to come, sell some stuff and you get a bunch of tupperwares – something like that.. I’ve never done it.
I think it would be worth debating if we can do subltle “No Obama” home parties… Invite any one who is anti – Obama, show them stuff that you “happen to have” Utube videos, hand out flyers on how to vote, talk about your “current” candidate of choice (even if it means Republican for a day) show them on your computer the PUMA blog…etc.. Of course you initiate this conversation like it was just a thing that has been bothering you -
At the end of the “party” they each get a great gift from you. Get others to host this “anti-Obama” party.
Everyone who attends – (and pays attention) will get a gift – as a thank you for coming. Every host will get a gift. You as the host will provide wine and tidbits after all, they are your friends
P/S: I will supply the gift. No limit to the number of guests. Unfortunately gifts are women related only…
Please vote on a scale of 1 – 10 on the viability and show of hands if you would be interested. Additional comments appreciated.
ok i’ll send it again
sry
DEADGIRLSRISE: The posting of the alpha list of why not to vote for Mojingo is great..Thanks…
You also have an email at alternate site!
HI… BACK A BIT AND WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THE GOOD WISHES GIVEN TO ME… THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!
HOW DO YOU L IKE THIS CARTOON:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/pit-bull-with-lipstick/
……….The implications of a female president for American foreign and domestic policy are profound, especially when the candidate has promised greater oversight of corporations, federally sponsored job programs and improving women’s human rights around the world. Such initiatives create jitters not only for Wall Street but for the Pentagon, the CIA, the State Department, and neoconservative think tanks planning the transformation from a democratic system of government to the Orwellian model of Big Brother. Under a Clinton-run Justice Department, officials accused of breaking U.S. or international laws (including the Geneva Conventions) could ostensibly be prosecuted.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_sarah_palin_may_have_women_ flocking__to_.html
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Jersey and SandiPUMA, do you know what we talked about….I put it on the Drudge
Sorry if this is been posted already, but:
Please join Sheri tonight at 8pm eastern with special guest Michele Thomas of HRC300 as they discuss the failures of the democratic party.
Also, Gigi Gaston, writer/director and olympian, Bettina Viviano, film producer/manager and John Siegle, Businessman and veteran political organizer will be joining Sheri to discuss their documentary, We Will Not Be Silenced, the roll call vote and issues in and with the press.
Here is is a link,
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingLeft/NO-WE-WONT/2008/09/08/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO
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#35 pooh496 on 09.07.08 at 12:53 pm This is a wonderful video. hope you like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
UNITED WE STAND
D I V I D E D WE F A L L
#380billieJoe: Same day registration and voting? That is a perfect environment for fraud..No time to verify info, even where the people live…Holy Lord…somebody better sue…I have to leave again.
Gallup Trend Posted on Craigslist:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol/831341210.html
sorry it works for me but not in here
#408 murphy
Is it on the east coast right now?
dcinlasvegas: That link was just too funny. If you don’t mind, I will repost it in case there are some that don’t want to back and read the earlier posts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GVhFFak1k
Hi all sorry I haven’t been on much this weekend..Been being a biker Mama with the hubby!
I am lurking trying to finish up the web site!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_sarah_palin_may_have_women_ flocking__to_.html
nope not going to
150 Asian4Hillary I really agree with your perspective. If we,(Americans) don’t become more concerned with survival than we are about issues, we aren’t going to have a country. People have had ‘issues’ since the beginning of time, and always will.
bille jo — yup! on now — should be a great show, michele and john are excellent.
Michele of 300 delegates talked about the what happened at the convention at the beginning of No We Won’t, so if you got there late, you probably want to hear it.
61′s VERBAL SLIP SAYING “MY MUSLIM FAITH!”
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/
Drill Baby Drill – right here in my back yard.
I would rather have displaced wild life than displaced (dead ?) American soldiers any day.
We can’t have our cake and eat it too. This great country is based on sacrifice for the greater good. If you are not up for it, don’t fight it.
Billie Jo
I have already blogged on JohnMcCain’s site about the lawsuit and the Breakfast roll call vote.
It has sparked a lot of interest. Some already knew, but there are other Pumas over there too.
Just let me know what else you want them to know and I can do it. It’s just another way to defeat the One.
BMW -
In my thoughts and prayers -
Only one suggestion!! Be diligent with PHYSICAL THERAPY – it really pays off!
greta
A year ago I would have disagreed Freddie But with my son over there Ill give em my back yard too!!
Terribly selfish I know…Ill go hang my head..
#386, NFTP: That is among one of the more frightening things I have read in a while.
PUMAPAL and others who are interested in the advertisers in the US WEEKLY edition that blazed the headline:
Babies & Scandel, etc. here they are”
Loreal
Dove Chocolate
Nestle, Nestea Ice Tea
JC Penney
Campbells Soup
Miller Brewing Company
Budweiser Brewing Company
NBC (shocker)
Verizon
Cover Girl
Lifetime Network
So many of those products are purchased and used by largely women. Pick one and let’s go to it.
MURPHY
Please proof the flyer at the top of this thread. It does not make sense to me. The line that heads columns with titles: “Candidate Popular”, “Votes Delegate Votes”, “Hard Total”, “Floor Vote”
Should it be “Candidate”and “Popular Votes”? Further clarification for other headings? Thanks
Hope this has not been discussed above.
Remember
Im so glad Im not the only one it confused!!
#289 tillerlakelady:
I just visited the CODE PINK site . JODIE FOSTER is NOT listed as one of the founders. The first name on the list of co-founders is a JODIE EVANS.
can someone good at searching find a video on that slip of his muslim faith by 61? thanks.. i suck at searching for what i want~
401 freddiebrown I am ABSOLUTELY going to have an anti- Obama Party ! What a FANTASTIC Idea !!!Of course I AM in Texas and will have to change the wine and cheese to Beer and Barbeque , but I bet I can make an Obama dart board and make an Anti-Obama Trivia / drinking game that would inform my guests about the corruption etc… This is a major Democratic area , but I am certain that a lot of people are just looking for a good excuse not to vote for him , and with all the info we have , I KNOW I can change some minds …
Probably not the kind of party you were thinking of , but ‘when in Rome ” ..
Carrie , want to come to my party ?
utahpuma #423 — what a great idea.
you are one heck of a puma.
MUSLIMS & GIFTS
#178 Sisterluck posted:
read and heard on fox news a few weeks back that bozo does not give his children gifts on Christmas or their birthdays. Is there a religious significance to this or is it just some weird bozo thing?
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In a magazine (forgot which one) interview last July, Obama and Michelle revealed that they do not give their children Christmas or birthday gifts.
Birthday gifts are not given by Muslims (Islamic faith). Shaykh Muhammed ibn Adam al-Kawthari said, “Principally, birthdays are not something that should be celebrated or to be happy about. When it is someone’s birthday, one year of his/her life has decreased, and not increased. As such, what intelligence is there in celebrating and showing happiness when a year has decreased in one’s life?”
I wonder if the Nation of Islam (Louis Farrakhan) adheres to the same principles/behavior.
My Muslim neighbors and family members do not celebrate or exchange gifts on Christmas. My mother sent a check to her Muslim great grandson who lives in another state on his first birthday . His Muslims parents did not cash it. That’s how we found out it was not polite!!!
Hi everyone!
I am so glad to be back . I feel like a newcomer again, since I have been away for over a month because of the operation I had to have. One day I just got sick, the next day, the doctor put me in the hospital, the next day, the doctor comes and tells me I have to have surgery. I said, if I agree, when. The doctor says in 30 minutes.
I should be completely over my operation in about a couple of weeks. I sure am glad.
I missed all the happenings that went on here at PUMA PAC in August. I feel so lost. August just passed me by. The last time I took flyers for our Pac to town was the day I started getting sick. I decided to get up early and go to the mall and around town and put Freddie’s posters all around. And I did too. But I kept getting sicker that day after I got home, so I didn’t get to do anything else and that was on July 30 and I was put in the hospital on July 31 and August 1st, I had the operation.
But now I’m back and hopefully get back into things again. There is alot to catch up on.
I am sooooooo glad to see all of you.
#409 bmw60
Thanks for the link. Love it.
Sarah Palin may have women flocking – to Barack Obama
can’t get my link to work poop
#433 Murphy
All’s fair in love and war, and I consider this war. Besides the Obots didn’t event the Troll.
Yes I doo!!!! Ill bring the tequilla!
Murphy
You have email
TENNASEEPUMA:
Poupee (poopay) doll in French
Andersen suggested PUMA POUPEE
TOUPIE
CASSIE
PRINCESS
REEKO
These are all names of cats that I know.
#423 utahpuma
I have already blogged on JohnMcCain’s site
Thank you for that. I am trying to take some caucus fraud and same day voter alerts over there too. Anything that is factual we can provide because the news does not put it out there.
Thanks.
I forgot to mention that US Magazine has lost subscribers in the thousands because of Sarah!
Ugh, I HATE watching bozo interviews. Besides all the uh’s, ah’s, & aaaaaaaand’s, he gives such long winded responses and never answers the question. When he’s done talking, everyone is more confused and going uh what?
444
lilibet
where did u read or hear that? is there a link?
#443 Billie Jo
Yes, we need to let them know the facts that don’t get reported in the media. I have always been polite and civil. But, they get some Obots on there that are really vile. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with over there.
#426 LaureyPuma RE NoHillaryNoVote Strategies
Economic Punishment
Great job, LaureyPuma!
Okay, here is my thinking. This becomes the “economic punishment”.
This issue will only cause concern with female identified products. So, my best guess is to focus on Cover Girl, L”Oreal and Lifetime. Does anyone one to comment on this strategy?
For US, I will get the issue and the exact wording on the cover. Can anyone provide information on the internal article?
Thanks.
#437 sandipuma
how so?
I found this little piece on NOT YOUR SWEETIE – Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.
However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn, who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief.
Sen. McCain did not vote on the Coburn Amendment, though he is on record as opposing the Ketchikan bridge earmark.
NOBAMA, here to help, here to save, and here until we flush him down and out…. (claws out!) : )
And if anyone knows, how many little kitties did tennaseepuma’s kitty-cat have? meow!
#431 TexasTigress – I am so glad you like the “anti Obama ” Tea party – Texas tea is beer right ?
I bet Jenni4Hillary will be having a party every weekend – if we can find her…
and
Asian4Hillary – will have a heck of a party too…
Dunno who else… ? I will save your names and contact you later for “party goodie bags”.
Hi all, I am new here, been lurking for about a month & tried to join, but realized my email was blocking out my password.
I come across some good news info now & then & wanted to be able to post it here. I admire your group & how organized you are.
I am sickened how the Dem party railroaded Hillary. I feel she & others were forced to do what they did & are being forced to show some kind of support now for BO. It sickens me to think how much corruption was involved in getting BO nominated!!!
Will do what I can to help, the days ahead will be crucial to keeping BO from taking over our country!
bluesgal
Welcome back. Hope you feel better.
NoHillaryNoVote Strategy – Voter Fraud
I just read that Fox News (no surprise) is looking for stories on voter fraud.
Try writing to voterfraud@foxnews.com. If you get a response, let us know.
THE OBAMESSIAH CODE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GVhFFak1k
*for a chuckle!
#430 Where is the interview with Obama/Muslim Faith
The Washington Times has an article on this with a link back to ABC. Does this help?
I have the templets for the articles and the front page done on the web site.
I haven’t linked the article pages as I am still building them, but I just got very excited because I typed in the URL and the front page as I have it so far without the links is live.
I was all woohoo
MURPHY—–YOU HAVE MAIL!!!!!
Please spread this message into very broad circulation.
IMHO every PUMA member should see this.
Video: Citizens for McCain press conference
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/07/video-citizens-for-mccain-press-conference/
posted at 2:00 pm on September 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
“I tried posting the press conference for Citizens for McCain that took place on day 2 of the Republican convention, but video conversion issues interfered with my ability to post it in its entirety. Here is the entire press conference headed by Carly Fiorina, introducing Democrats who have decided to support John McCain instead of Barack Obama”
#430
Obama — “MY Muslim faith”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw
#446 SouthJerseyPUMA:
I heard it probably on FOX since that is the only channel I listen to for news. I was not watching too attentively but stopped in my tracks when I heard the news on the US Magazine.
BIGCATLOVER
THANK YOU! I do feel alot better.
#446 SouthJersayPUMA
Just google, US Magazine losing subscribers, and you will find much to read about it. The magazine denies it.
GOP bounce: McCain overtakes Obama
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080907/pl_politico/13228
Rasmussen’s daily tracking poll also reported today that when “leaners” are included, Obama and McCain are now tied at 48 percent. That means that, by Rasmussen’s measure, Obama’s 6-point bounce has been erased. CBS News polling had shown the same outcome midway through the GOP convention.
McCain’s resurgence in the polls comes as Nielsen Media Research reported that the Republican convention earned more television viewers than the Democratic convention. Republicans earned an average audience of 34.5 million, while Democrats earned an average viewership of 30.2 million
Left this paragraph out of the last post:
McCain leads Obama 48 percent to 45 percent among registered voters, by Gallup’s measure. McCain has so far earned the same convention bounce as Obama, though at a more rapid pace.
This is part 3 of the interview with the ‘muslin faith’ quote – the quote is being taken out of context in the internet smear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYHFlGb2Ng
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$429 lilibit,
I know I was in a hurry to type cause I was getting ready to watch that JODIE FOSTER MOVIE The Brave One.So sorry to mix up the JODIE’S.
Bill O’Rielly Interview with BO
Get your barf bag. Very interesting. What do you think of his view on Islam? And “they”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oG3iZgT-CM
Freddie et al,
Trish has come up with a Puma Party Planner (result of Friday Work Night).
It’s really great to use as a template.
It will be on the ACTION Center asap for Pumas to download.
I love your ideas.
on Polling Report dot Com, they have it as 54 to 44 with McCain ahead… don’t know how accurate any of them are tho…. everytime you flush, visualize 61 going down in circles…. : )
welcome back bluesgal
Murphy
would you like to see the front page?
GREAT to see you Bluesgal!
caracal — mais oui!
http://puma-facts.com
#466 LeahBethM
“the quote is being taken out of context in the internet smear.”
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I watched that whole section of the interview and it didn’t look like a context issue to me. He said the “MY Muslim faith” line too easily and didn’t even catch it. He had to be corrected by G.S.
#466 LeahBethM
There is nothing out of context. He slipped and referred to his Muslim Religion. He corrected himself as it was pointed out but it is still a slip.
Who are you trying to kid?
Good evening everyone, It took me almost a hour and half toget through all these post but I’m glad I did a lot of interesting things on here. Glad to see you back bluesgal happy to hear your doing better. bmw60 I am so glad I didn’t miss you before you go to surgery good luck with that and my mom had her knees done and she said it is the best thing she could have ever done. Prays going out for a speedy recovery.
msnbc dropping matthews and obermann!!
#471 bmw60
THANK YOU!
Hope this ends up as true– Drudge—”MSNBC drops Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews from anchor chair… David Gregory will anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night…. Developing… –”
bye bye matthews and obermann..dont let the door slap you on your tingling behinds when you walk out the door
where did you hear that at sandtraps? OMG!
msnbc now cnn
where did you hear that at sandtraps? OMG! oh never mind read again
Headclunker – You need to listen to the audio again… Obama was referring to what McCain says ‘is his muslim faith’ – which is false since he is a Christian. The quote in the interview was from McCain’s perspective.
where did you hear that at sandtraps? OMG! oh never mind read again (laffing at self)
For those who don’t know, Bob Barr, running for Pres from the Libertarian Party, was one of the main Republican managers in charge of the witch-hunt and impeachment of Pres. Bill Clinton. Rabid anti-abortionist and hypocrite Barr was found to have driven his wife to an abortion clinic for an abortion of a child he didnt want.
Vote for Bob Barr? Sure, as soon as I go insane.
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#31 BlogginRock on 09.07.08 at 12:45 pm With the split in the Democratic Party (Clinton Voters) and the split in the Republican Party (Paul Voters) … this is the first year we have a chance to do something different altogether and send an entirely different message to the two major parties. Instead of voting for McCain/Palin, please consider voting instead for an Independent party candidate … for example, the Libertarian party candidate, Bob Barr. That’s what I intend to do and I’m trying to get other Clinton and Paul voters to do the same. Given that they robbed us of our delegates and our nominees, wouldn’t it be interesting to not only thumb our noses at the two major parties, but also rob both of them of the Presidential race in 2008. Spread the word … vote Libertarian … vote for Bob Barr!
Drudge- http://www.drudgereport.com/ We willsee if it is true
Murphy, thank you, glad to see you too.
#478 SLYT2
Thank you, glad to see you too.
bmw60
Hope your surgery goes well. Will be thinking of you. Hoping for a speedy recovery.
Really Leah? Do you have film of his confirmation or conversion 20 years ago? Do you have a copy of his certificate of conversion to Christinanity.
The Arab Muslim world seems to think that Obama is still Muslim and practicing deception to invade and change the US to a Muslim country from the inside.
As the saying goes, maybe 1.5 billion Arabs cant be wrong.______________________________________
486 LeahBethM on 09.07.08 at 10:00 pm
Headclunker – You need to listen to the audio again… Obama was referring to what McCain says ‘is his muslim faith’ – which is false since he is a Christian. The quote in the interview was from McCain’s perspective.
#482 osaka puma
LOL, tingling butts.
“joltin” joe biden ..razzle dazzling his way down the gridiron…. in the wrong direction!!
maybe if we all chant “bye bye” it will be true…eheheh
McCain is 48 in gallop polls and 61 45!!!!!!!!!!
woooohoooooo!!!!!!
ericak..yeah,remeber the “harmonic convergence” of the early 80′s ? maybe we can have a new one to get rid of obama and joltin joe biden.. let’s call it the “harmonic regurgence”
I think Palin is a good mother.
But I think the media will have a field day regarding her church.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K_1Eit0pxM
PHIL BERG
He is on a talk radio show now in Chicago WLS 89. He said he has been on 40 radio shows recently, so he is getting some air time. Phil Berg is the dem lawyer who has filed a lawsuit stating that Obama is not eligible to be president.
WASHINGTON — The Republican National Convention has given John McCain and his party a significant boost, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken over the weekend shows, as running mate Sarah Palin helps close an “enthusiasm gap” that has dogged the GOP all year.
McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican’s biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points…………..
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-poll_N.htm
I just watched the recreation of United 93 – it’s been showing on TNT (9/ll). I am having a hard time dealing with it right now. It is a strong reminder though that I don’t want any of B.Hussein’s friends, relationships, associates, money funders, crime lords, or anyone else running my country!!!
made me snort out some (non-driving beverage) out of my nose with that one Osaka… lmao
leah..your right thats what the axelrod gang is pulling now to destroy sarah palin..get into her personal life,family and church to tear her down..
it’s alot like the same sexist crap they pulled on hillary
#475 Caracal Carrie on 09.07.08 at 9:55 pm
http://puma-facts.com
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You’re doing us proud with your skills again Carrie.
Looks great
#429 tillerylakelady
No problem, thank you for clearing it up. I, too, do like Jodie Foster so I was really worried when I saw her name in that context. All’s well that ends well.
Nice article. Feminist for Palin
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/06/INB312NP3M.DTL
im not sure what the NY TIMES has in mind but I heard that they are coming out with a big spread on sarah palins baby
#488 Kelligesq
It’s a pipe dream to think that the Libertarian Party has a snowball’s chance in you-know-where of winning an election. The only role they can play is spoiler. Taking a chance on the spoiling the wrong candidate is not an option for me. Of course you can place your vote wherever you like and I’d fight anyone for your right to do so…but the reality is it will be a no-impact vote. Besides, I’ve seen the guys that stand on courthouse sidewalks and promote the Libertarian Party. They’re all a little nutty… one brick short of a load… half a bubble off. I’d sooner vote for BO.
yeah, I was really bummed when I read the Jodie Foster line, glad it wasn’t her…. : D
what the hell is wrong with NOW and all them so called feminists??? cant they see what the obama campaign,the DNC and the media are trying to do to sarah palin?
are they f****ing insane or what?
Here’s a link to cute 3:00am cartoon:
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/actual-post-from-a-soetorobama-supporter-on-why-he-is-going-to-lose/
#377 utahpuma on 09.07.08 at 7:50 pm
#318 deadgirlsrise
I love the list too. May I use it. I will add some things like Breakfast roll call vote, Voter fraud, and whatever else. Would that be okay with you
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Credit goes to the poster, on the noquarter blog, the link I provided with the list. Everyone who wants to add to it should go to that blog and add comments to the comment, with your addition. This one looks like its going to go viral, so we should give due to the one who came up with it and posted it on No Quarter: karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/sarah-palin-can-have-it-all/#more-4633
There is a comment on that blog that I thought should be spread. This is an alphabetized reasons for NO BO
Comment by karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now) | 2008-09-07 16:57:29
OLBERMANN AND CHRIS MATTHEWS DROPPED
MSNBC drops Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews from anchor chair… David Gregory will anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/media/08msnbc.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
NoHillaryNoVote – Strategy – Economic – First contact
Cover Girl is owned by Procter and Gamble.
Headqtrs: Procter and Gamble Plaza
Cincinnati, Ohio 95202
(513) 983-1100
There is also a wiki site listing their products, etc.
Finally, in one of the articles on the loss of subscriptions by US magazine, it was mentioned that the advertisers are being contacted!
I will come back with the other two contacts. Again, I would recommend short and brief … and then boycott their products as best you can. Procter and Gamble’s products are mostly purchased by women. Interestingly, the top of the corporation is men! Not much has changed in the last few decades.
I just saw this on AOL. I would love to be a fly on the wall. Notice that the turf will be Bill’s:
“Barack Obama plans to lunch with former President Clinton this week in what will be their first extended face-to-face meeting since the bitter primary season. Obama intends to meet Clinton for a private lunch Thursday at the Clinton Foundation headquarters in New York City, Obama spokesman Bill Burton said Sunday. Obama will be in New York that morning for a memorial ceremony at Ground Zero, where he will appear with Republican presidential rival John McCain to commemorate the seventh anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.”
new york times says they are both re-assigned…. yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
i think its afantastic idea that some people are wanting to boycott the main stream media ansd some of their sponsors for their destructive sexism..im with you 100% on that and I will help out..
nothing works on these bastards like threatening their profit margins..
heck yeah..lets boycott the hell out of em..
it worked Osaka! : D
I don’t recall McCain EVER questioning BO personally about his faith…is it documented? Help me?
#512 scarlet on 09.07.08 at 10:24 pm
OLBERMANN AND CHRIS MATTHEWS DROPPED
WHA???????????
Very INTERESTING!!!
proctor and gamble is PERFECT!!!!!
they are the biggies you want to boycott for sure..get them and the rest will fall in line
Be still my heart…Oblubberman and Matthews dumped from their anchor chairs ???!! Only for debates/election night or…are their shows going bye-bye ??? All I can say is…its about damn time.
514 taylorgrob1 It makes me sick thinking that B. Hussein will be at Ground Zero in New York! And my opinion is not up for debate!
they will still be on, but not as the leads of their shows anymore…Yaaaaaaaaaaaa!
NoHillaryNoVote Strategy – Economic – 2nd contact
Lifetime channel is a joint venture owned by Walt Disney (50%) and Hearst Corp (50%) and is called
Lifetime Entertainment Services
652 Glenbrook Road
Stanford, CT 06906
(203) 323-9317
Again, this advertiser is associated with the US Magazine (cover). Keep it short and remember to boycott please.
Strategy via NoHillaryNoVote and LaureyPuma identified the advertisers.
MURPHY :
#469 murphy on 09.07.08 at 9:49 pm
Freddie et al,
Trish has come up with a Puma Party Planner (result of Friday Work Night).
It’s really great to use as a template.
It will be on the ACTION Center asap for Pumas to download.I love your ideas
*****
Great !! I was slacking a bit on Friday and must have missed it… Looking forward to it the party planner GUIDE !!
It would be so fun if we could designate every Friday or Saturday night up till Nov 4 for the Obama party.
Can I still provide the party favours ?? If people will send in their request to me, I can mail it off Party favours to give out. We need to entice people to come to these parties… Perhaps raffle off the party favours.
chris matthews with his newly found free time will be doing an off broadway show “peter pan”.. he will play the role of “Tingle bell”..
This was a good comment below. Bozo laughed at Palin’s experience in the interview and her being from Alaska. His arrogance is disgusting and the way he acts as if he has any experience when he held not one meeting on the foreign relations committee. He was too busy preparing to run for Pres. I do not want this loser anywhere near the Sept 11th memorial.
bmc Says:
September 7, 2008 at 6:01 pm
In an electric interview [with George Stefanopoulos] Obama suggested again and again that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, McCain’s running mate, is unprepared for the job. At one point, he mocked her camp’s suggestion that Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her foreign-policy swat:
“Well, look. You know, I actually knew that Russia was next to Alaska, as well. I saw it on a map.” Obama lauged.
“It’s not a qualification?” Stephanopoulos press.
“I don’t think it is,” Obama replied.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13217.html
Don’t dismiss the fact that Gov. Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard. Consider this:
Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Misssile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska, Gov. Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Sen. Biden’s, and certainly far exceeds Sen. Obama’s.
She’s also the Commander in Chief [CinC] of the Alaska State Defense Force [ASDF], a federally recognized militia incorporated into the Dept. of Homeland Security’s counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country’s defense. Given Alaska’s proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don’t even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.
Here’s the proof of Gov. Palin’s Commander in Chief credentials:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=2483
http://www.airdefenseartillery.com/online/PhotoGallery/GMD/49thMissileDefenseBattalionHome.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/agency/49md.htm
497~
leah~ how do you know this is true? has it been proven or is this just the left making up attacks? 1) there are many demons in the world.. 2) at least they arent goddamn america! 3) choice of religion freedom is our constitutional right
for me it doesnt hold much water~ as they say.
not barking at you~ but somethings are better left on youtube~ and not posted here.
Olberman and Matthews have not lost their shows. They just won’t be sitting in the anchor chair during the debates and election – BUT they will be there as analysts so that they will be free to talk more openly. David Gregory is a twit and he won’t last long.
OH Peter, my leg doth tingle! (ok, that’s two times you’ve made me snort my brew out of my nose tonight Osaka….you very bad girl! : D )
#486 LeahBethM
What are you talking about? How much Koolaid have you been drinking? You listen to the video again.
im going to send msnbc a letter thanking them for reassigning “tingle bell” and “overendman”
I just got back from Rhode Island.
What did I miss??
msnbc..maybe they are getting a little worried eh?
NoHillaryNoVote Strategy – Strategy – Economic – 3rd contact
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For context, please see post #524 and #513
If you want to see how desperate the O’bots are to discredit Palin, go look at the video posted by LeahBethM at #497. It is complete with cheesy editing and tacky attempts at race baiting.
Na na na naaaaa, na na na naaaaaaaaaa, heyaaaaaa goodbye!
OBAMA VOLUNTARY PUBLIC SERVICE
Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife became executive director of the Chicago chapter of Public Allies in 1993. Obama plans to use the nonprofit group, which he features on his campaign Web site, as the model for a national service corps. He calls his Orwellian program, “Universal Voluntary Public Service.”
Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas. They plan to herd American youth into government-funded reeducation camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of “social change.”
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=305420655186700
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How in the world did Obama become a candidate for the democratic party????
#503 BillieJo
Thanks so much BillieJo
I am so glad you like it! I cant wait to get the rest of my pages loaded and get the links going! I think its going to be a great site.
Very interesting…….
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Headclunker – I am not an O’bot. I would appreciate the same respect that I have shown to you on this website. And there wasn’t anything in that video that had to do with race baiting. All of the major newspapers are talking about her church. It is just as much of an issue as any of the other candidates. Geez, why are you so touchy.
Thought you all could use a good laugh…
A teacher in Elmira , New York asked her 6th grade
class how many of them were Obama fans. Not really
knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked
by the teacher, All the kids raised their hands except for
Little Johnny.
The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to
be different again.
Little Johnny said, ‘Because I’m not an Obama fan.’
The teacher asked, ‘Why aren’t you an Obama fan?’
Johnny said, ‘Because I’m a Republican.’
The teacher asked him why he’s a Republican.
Little Johnny answered, ‘Well, my Mom’s a Republican
and my Dad’s a Republican, so I’m a Republican.’
Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, ‘If your
mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, What
would that make you?’
With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, ‘That would
make me an Obama fan.’
USA Today shows 10 pt lead over Obama with ‘likely voters’
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-poll_N.htm
the bad thing about these obama bloggers is that they are walking in lock step with some of the main stream media and serve as a conveying belt to get the slime up into the main stream..
it doesnt work that way for the anti-obama bloggers though..it just stays there
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/media/08msnbc.html?_r=1&hp
First two men down for PUMAS!!!!!!!!!!!
After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.
Murphy – Great interview yesterday!
I just spent the entire day speaking with several former Senator Clinton supportors who where going to vote for Bozo. It was a daunting task, to say the least, but I had them cornered. They really couldn’t offer me one credible explanation on why they would throw their support behind him. The best part of it all, after we hashed are re-hashed the issues, they left more informed and stated to me that they will no longer support Bozo. I know, it’s not a lot, but I guess I have to convince and convert one Obamabot at a time.
great news there about matthews and obermann
something to smile about
as soon as mccain gets elected then I can start tearing him down
I thought PUMA wanted new people and new donations. If ya’ll are going to keep running us new folks off then the group isn’t going to grow. I thought that this was a friendly website, I guess I was wrong. Ciao!
#545 BillieJo…Great news!! Great job fellow Pumas..2 down and several more to go!!
#510 ipotter:
Thank you for the link to the cartoon. The following article was VERY interesting. I imagine that is what you had in mind in giving us the link.
sandipuma: You mentioned that women would be flocking – to Obama.
Perhaps you have not heard that women are already imitating many things about SARAH. Two ladies from Hillary’s Village who work at Lenscrafters say that they are experiencing an influx of ladies who want glasses like Sarah’s. Of course, this reminds me of Jackie.
549~ TEARING DOWN MCCAIN?
leah..did someone attack you here? i must have missed something?
#526 Osaka
You’re TOO MUCKENFUTCH!
Thanks for the chuckle/belly laugh………
I agree with you – happy to see the sob’s gone – I boycotted both of them for the past several months – two despicable turds!
greta
oh Barbnobo, loved your story…hehehehe
gordana..i will never forgive that rat matthews for the evil crap he pulled on hillary.. as for obermann well,he’s just a fool..
and everyone just remember, no matter how the polls look, we must not relax, we can not trust that voter fraud will not overcome the real vote unless we put our vote to work….
#549 osaka puma on 09.07.08 at 10:56 pm
as soon as mccain gets elected then I can start tearing him down
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Our goal is to fix the Democratic party and take those people out, not just go after everyone.
#557 Osaka
I despise them almost as much as the IMPOSTER – can’t stand the sight of any of them. I used to feel that way about ‘W’, but he’s even tolerable now compared to them (if that’s possible?)!!!!!!!!!
greta
LETTERS SHOULD BE SENT STILL TO MSNBO EVEN THOUGH THESE TWO HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SEAT THEY SAT IN~ i WILL STILL BOYCOTT MSNBO AND NBC, AND CNN, AND ANYONE ELSE THAT TALKS SEXIST, MISOGYNISTIC CRAP!!!
AND THEIR ADVERTISERS
#550 LeahBethM:
Au revoir, arrivaderchi, dosvidanja, adios , auf widersehen
LEAH~ maybe you would be more suited for the left-blogs..
#528 SouthJerseyPUMA
I agree w/ you. Freedom of religion is a sacred right of American’s. BO’s church wouldn’t even be an issue IF it weren’t preaching hatred for America, to the man who wants to become the president of America.
evening everyone:
I am happy to say that I am well on my way to reclaiming my space/home after the conventions. I’ve finally moved my computer from in front of the TV which means it will be less likely that I will be on here for extended periods of time….
I am very excited because I have been asked to help staff an Al Gore event next month.
Does anyone have footage of Hillary’s speech today?
562 lilibet
I think that makes one down and two to go……..not sure.. Thanks!
**** Really great letter written about O’s Character***
Personal parts are not in it, but the well written character analysis is wonderful… My Honey wrote this to his daughter … she is an Obama supporter.
The measure of a person is his/her character. A review of a person’s life and past associations reveals much about one’s character and judgment and the prospects for future behavior. Before getting into their respective programs, let’s examine the experience, character and judgment of McCain and Obama.
There is no doubt that Obama is intelligent, articulate and is an enthralling and entrancing public speaker. His accomplishment in being chose president of the Harvard law review is commendable. Did he actually do anything to contribute to the law review. I don’t believe he authored any contributions to the law review. What has he done since then? What is a community organizer? What did he accomplish as a community organizer? How can we measure his results? He was an Illinois state senator for 8 years. During that time there were 130 occasions when he voted “present” and was unable to make a decision. He has been a U.S Senator for four years during which time he was present in the Senate only 142 days, An average of only 35 days per year. The one Senate sub-committee he chaired has never been called to meet while he was chairman. I believe you might find one piece of legislation that he actually co-authored. However he has found the time to write two memoirs and has spent a significant amount of time running for higher office. Yes, he speaks a great game, but what has he actually accomplished?
Let’s lake a look at his friends and associates. For twenty years the Obamas were members of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. They considered their pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright to be their spiritual mentor and advisor. Reverend Wright is a vocal proponent of black liberation theology. This theology contends that all blacks are good and whites are the cause of all ills and troubles of blacks. He preaches, loudly, a vitriolic hatred of whites that can only be called racist at best. For example, “There will be no peace in America until white people begin to hate their whiteness”. For twenty years the Obamas listened to this racist garbage! What brand of Christianity is this? Where in Christ’s teachings does He speak of separating the races. For that matter, how does this relate to living Dr. Martin Luther King’s “Dream”. If a candidate were a member of The Aryan Nation for twenty years and claimed he didn’t hear what they were preaching, would you believe him and vote for him? When finally confronted by his long association with his racist preacher during the primaries, Obama stated he never heard any of this, and he could not disown the Reverend. Huh? If he didn’t hear it, he’s stupid. And he is not a stupid man. If he did hear it, does he actually believe in it? That really scares me. If he didn’t believe what he heard, why did he stay and listen to it for twenty years? Is this a testament to his bad character or poor judgment, or both? Which of these qualities do you want in a President?
What about Obama’s long term association with William Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn? These two domestic terrorists were founders of the SDS Weathe Underground which began its terrorist activities during the Democratic National Convention in 1968.. It would be one thing if they were just demonstrating against the establishment. But these two were involved in numerous bombings over the next 11 years including the Capitol, the Pentagon and police stations. In 2001 Ayres wrote a book in which he expressed the opinion the he was not sorry for what he did and that he didn’t do enough. Yet two of his associates were killed when one of their bombs “accidentally” exploded before they could plant the device. Yes, Barack Obama was only 8 when Ayres started his revolution. However, Ayers’ past activities were well known in 1995 when Obama was introduced at a fund raiser in the Ayres/Dohrn home as a candidate for state senator of Illinois. Later that year he was appointed by Ayers as president of the board of a charity founded by Ayres. He continued until 2003. He also served on the board of another charity with Ayres from 1999 until 2002. When confronted about his association with Ayres during a debate in the Pennsylvania primary, Obama replied that he was just a guy he knew from the neighborhood. He also asked what relevance did Ayres’ activities of 40 years ago when Obama was only 8 eight years old have on the campaign. This is a rather disingenuous reply made to deflect attention from his long association with Ayres. Again, what about Obama’s judgment and character? How could Obama not know of the violent past of Ayres and Dohrn? He lied and continues to do so about his association with Ayres. His long term association with Ayres and Dohrn scares me even more than his association with Reverend Wright.
I could go into just as much detail about Obama’s equally scary associations with PLO fund raisers Edward Said and Rashid Khalidi, and convicted criminal slumlord Tony Rezko, who helped the Obamas buy their $1+ million home in Chicago. But the incident that concerns me more is his vote in the Illinois Senate against the Infant Born Alive Protection act. Without getting into a discussion about abortion, his stance on this issue is repulsive. This act was presented to the state senate to protect infants who escape the abortionists’ knife and made it into this world alive. He not only tried to bottle up the legislation in committee, but he was the only member of the state senate to vote against it. He favors infanticide because the mother only wanted to abort the baby anyway.(that part is gleaned from hearing his reply to actual testimony given before his committee). Incidentally, a similar federal bill passed in U.S Senate by a vote of 100 to 0. During his 8 years in the Illinois senate he voted “present” 130 times. Isn’t that remarkable? One hundred and thirty times he couldn’t make up his mind how to vote on an issue, but he voted to kill babies!!! Is this really the type of individual we want in the White House? I certainly don’t think so!!
During the Democratic National Convention did you hear anybody, other than his wife and his Vice-Presidential running mate, give testimony to Obama’s good character and past good deeds? I sure didn’t. The Clintons both spoke eloquently about the Democratic Party and their own accomplishments. The only thing they said about Obama was they supported him and wanted everyone to vote for him. Nobody else gave testimony to anything he did because he hasn’t accomplished anything. He promises a lot in his speeches but there is less than nothing to back it up.
And now for McCain. First of all John McCain is a true American hero. He has served his country bravely and with much distinction his whole life. Maybe he did graduate near the bottom of his class from the Naval Academy. Many never even make it through. Once he graduated, however, he served his country with honor and distinction. Can you or anyone else possibly imagine the fortitude, guts, discipline, character and honor it took to survive the 5½ years of torture he endured at the infamous Hanoi Hilton? Despite all of this, while he was a Senator, he went back to Hanoi to spearhead the process of normalizing relations between Vietnam and the U.S. After the way he was so inhumanely treated by the North Vietnamese, it took great character for him to undertake this endeavor. Prior to his ill fated flight which landed him in Hanoi, there was an incident aboard the USS Forrestal when a missile misfired on board the aircraft carrier and caused great destruction and loss of life. John McCain heroically rescued several of his fellow sailors from the shipboard fire. During his tenure in Congress, McCain has often reached across the aisle to work with both parties to press for legislation that was unpopular in his own party. I don’t suppose you noticed that virtually all of his former opponents for the Republican nomination gave glowing testimonials the McCain’s accomplishments, experience, character, honor, judgment and love of his country. One, Joe Lieberman, actually reached back across the aisle form the Democratic side to pay honor to Jon McCain. I haven’t seen or heard anyone from the Democratic side make any similar statements about Obama. I know you are incensed about the “joke” McCain you heard McCain tell. Yes, you are right about one thing. If I ever heard anybody make a similar remark about you, I would certainly try to take him out. I think you have already seen me do it once. In spite of the offensive nature of McCain’s remark about Chelsey, I don’t think this one incident should negate the sum of his accomplishments.
In fact I was a McCain supporter before Bush was elected, and I am even more of one now. I believe he is the only candidate who has a chance to straighten out the economic mess Bush has created. He is not Bush and his administration would not be a continuation of the Bush administration. The tax cuts that Bush engineered are good for the economy. It’s the rest of his fiscal non-discipline that has caused the economic problems we have. The one “issue “ I will comment about here is the respective tax proposals. In addition to the Obama proposals listed below, he wants to extent the payroll tax, that is, FICA taxes, on all salaries and wages above the current limit of about $100,000. Obama’s tax proposals are a prescription for fiscal insanity. By adding the payroll tax rate of 15.4% on top of the top income tax bracket of 39.6%, the effective marginal tax rate would be 55% in addition to all the other taxes he proposes. The last time we had a top tax rate of 50% was during the Carter administration. You were too young to remember but the prime interest rate was 18%, unemployment was 13% and inflation was 15%. Obama will out-Carter Carter. The result will quite possibly be a depression equal to or worse than the 1930”s. He can’t understand that you can’t increase economic activity by raising taxes. His proposals may sound great, but the pursuit of his “politics of envy” will only create an economic disaster.
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales
How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that ‘higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K – tax $4,500
Single making 50K – tax $12,500
Single making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 125K – tax $31,250
OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K – tax $8,400
Single making 50K – tax $14,000
Single making 75K – tax $23,250
Married making 60K – tax $16,800
Married making 75K – tax $21,000
Married making 125K – tax $38,750
Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren’t high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)
#549 osaka puma on 09.07.08 at 10:56 pm
as soon as mccain gets elected then I can start tearing him down
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well i see you havent answered me~ i guess you do mean mccain~ christ, give the guy a chance to work for the people before you “start tearing him down”!!! maybe you should read what our puma aganda is~
I am sorry for the long post, but it was so wonderful… I had to share it with You all!!!
#550 LeahBethM
One of the stated purposes is to keep BO out of office. You don’t seem to be much in step w/ that purpose.
Finally- a website that has guts!
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BillGwatney.html
A Superdelegate Murdered:
Has Karl Rove declared open season on Democrats?
In just the past two years, Rove has sent the governor of Alabama to prison, replaced eight U.S. Attorneys with political operatives, and helped Donna Brazile’s candidate dominate the 2008 Democratic presidential primaries despite his thin resume. Now a prominent Arkansas Democrat is shot dead the day after joining a petition drive to nominate Hillary Clinton. Did the G.O.P.’s Machiavellian warlord catch a break, or is there something else going on here?
Manchurian Candidate
After reading that story, here are more:
Bush’s Third Term
The Donna Brazile – Karl Rove Connection
Obama’s October Surprise
Bamboozling the American Electorate Again
Still Under the Bus with Senator Clinton
Election ’08 Rogues Gallery of Journalists
Who is Nancy Pelosi? (PDF file)
Michael Moore Weighs In on the Primaries
#547 nokoolaid4me
That was a fantastic job you did today!!!
Nokoolaid4me—FRICKIN FANTASTIC….I was talking to my mother today and I BELIEVE that, aside from dealing with voter fraud (BIGGEST ISSUE), the MOST IMPORTANT thing is to GET THE WORD OUT. One puma tellls another person tells another person and so on and so forth….
NO BO…this is our goal and we have MUCH to do in 60 days….NO BO!!
Postcards from Europe to US voters for Obama
http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/4g82l
569 bmw60 You always present the “facts” and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
and still I sit here wondering, how many little kitties did tenneseepuma’s kittie have? it was two last count… hope they are all ok and doing well….
#547 nokoolaid4me
and they’ll tell 2 friends…
and they’ll tell 2 friends…
and they’ll tell 2 friends…
and they’ll tell 2 friends…
and they’ll tell 2 friends…
(Like that old commercial. Probably dating myself here.)
Multiplication is the key! Great job!!
excuse me please, tennaseepuma’s kitties… ; )
The Truth In Politics With Mike Flannery
Do you ever wonder if the political spin is all bull? Do you have a question you wish the candidates would answer? CBS 2 Political Editor Mike Flannery has the experience and perspective to give you the Truth in Politics. Send us your questions and Mike may answer them on the 6 p.m. news.
Here is a reporter who is asking his audience for questions they wish the candidates would answer. I think we could come up with a lot of questions, such as Berg lawsuit, obama camps, etc.
http://cbs2chicago.com/
PumaPal you are amazing. I will call these sponsors tomorrow. I hope others on this blog will too.
I missed the article you referred to, does anyone have a link?
#274 Scarlet
Why don’t we blast them with PUMA postcards?
BMW~ wow!!! that pretty much sums it up!! what a great letter!
#580 LaureyPuma
I put that on my “to do” list also.
Yikes, looks like Ike could be aiming for Houston now. Hope the forecast maps are wrong….but I don’t want to wish it on anybody else either.
maybe we could all chant for IKE to target the DNC….
: )
Evening all. Just got back late yesterday. No way I can catch up. I see Mccain is ahead
See a lot of new faces and some old ones missing. Hope everything is going smooth. Any new deviltry from the dnc? I have been way out of touch up in the mountains.
Yo south.
ACTION CENTER: Grassroots Org
Together4Us
http://www.together4us.com/
snowtiger – so great to see your name. while you were away (by the way, hope your trip was great!) murphy has been collecting stuff for the action center: links, data, resources, etc. no sure who, if anyone, is scrolling through collecting the info right now. billie jo was doing is a couple of days ago, then dances took it on yesterday. anyway, if you have helpful stuff to share, just wanted to make you aware murphy is working on developing the action center so we have resources and don’t have to keep reinventing the wheel.
snowtiger – so great to see your name. while you were away (by the way, hope your trip was great!) murphy has been collecting stuff for the action center: links, data, resources, etc. no sure who, if anyone, is scrolling through collecting the info right now. billie jo was doing is a couple of days ago, then dances took it on yesterday. anyway, if you have helpful stuff to share, just wanted to make you aware murphy is working on developing the action center so we have resources and don’t have to keep reinventing the wheel.
Thank you fellow pumas, this forum has given me many talking points and ammunition to fire back at them (obamabots) when I am trying to complete our mission.
thanks again!!!
#586 Anna7000
Evening Anna,
Just for the the hellof it, when has it ever been the responsisblity of the loser to unify a party? Isn’t that the job of the winner. A chance to show his true leadership skills? OH and i noticed reading that Carpathia wnats Hillary to step,out to counter Palin. Tis is reminding me of that snl skit where “O” calls Hillary at 3 am and asks her advice. If Carpathia were to win he would have to have a red line to Hillary. I swear.
snowtiger – looks like you’re pretty much all caught up!
good night…
snowtiger – looks like you’re pretty much all caught up!
good night…
We have 3 new kittens, all doing well. We named them Shadow,Soot, and Puma.
#542 BarbNOBO
Now that was funny! Thanks for sharing it with us.
Great article in the San Francisco Chronicle this morning:
A feminist’s argument for McCain’s VP
Tammy Bruce
Sunday, September 7, 2008
In the shadow of the blatant and truly stunning sexism launched against the Hillary Rodham Clinton presidential campaign, and as a pro-choice feminist, I wasn’t the only one thrilled to hear Republican John McCain announce Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. For the GOP, she bridges for conservatives and independents what I term “the enthusiasm gap” for the ticket. For Democrats, she offers something even more compelling – a chance to vote for a someone who is her own woman, and who represents a party that, while we don’t agree on all the issues, at least respects women enough to take them seriously.
Whether we have a D, R or an “i for independent” after our names, women share a different life experience from men, and we bring that difference to the choices we make and the decisions we come to. Having a woman in the White House, and not as The Spouse, is a change whose time has come, despite the fact that some Democratic Party leaders have decided otherwise. But with the Palin nomination, maybe they’ll realize it’s not up to them any longer.
Clinton voters, in particular, have received a political wake-up call they never expected. Having watched their candidate and their principles betrayed by the very people who are supposed to be the flame-holders for equal rights and fairness, they now look across the aisle and see a woman who represents everything the feminist movement claimed it stood for. Women can have a family and a career. We can be whatever we choose, on our own terms. For some, that might mean shooting a moose. For others, perhaps it’s about shooting a movie or shooting for a career as a teacher. However diverse our passions, we will vote for a system that allows us to make the choices that best suit us. It’s that simple.
The rank bullying of the Clinton candidacy during the primary season has the distinction of simply being the first revelation of how misogynistic the party has become. The media led the assault, then the Obama campaign continued it. Trailblazer Geraldine Ferraro, who was the first Democratic vice presidential candidate, was so taken aback by the attacks that she publicly decried nominee Barack Obama as “terribly sexist” and openly criticized party chairman Howard Dean for his remarkable silence on the obvious sexism.
Concerned feminists noted, among other thinly veiled sexist remarks during the campaign, Obama quipping, “I understand that Sen. Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal,” and Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen in a television interview comparing Clinton to a spurned lover-turned-stalker in the film, “Fatal Attraction,” noting, “Glenn Close should have stayed in that tub, and Sen. Clinton has had a remarkable career…”. These attitudes, and more, define the tenor of the party leadership, and sent a message to the grassroots and media that it was “Bros Before Hoes,” to quote a popular Obama-supporter T-shirt.
The campaign’s chauvinistic attitude was reflected in the even more condescending Democratic National Convention. There, the Obama camp made it clear it thought a Super Special Women’s Night would be enough to quell the fervent support of the woman who had virtually tied him with votes and was on his heels with pledged delegates.
There was a lot of pandering and lip service to women’s rights, and evenings filled with anecdotes of how so many have been kept from achieving their dreams, or failed to be promoted, simply because they were women. Clinton’s “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” were mentioned a heck of a lot. More people began to wonder, though, how many cracks does it take to break the thing?
Ironically, all this at an event that was negotiated and twisted at every turn in an astounding effort not to promote a woman.
Virtually moments after the GOP announcement of Palin for vice president, pundits on both sides of the aisle began to wonder if Clinton supporters – pro-choice women and gays to be specific – would be attracted to the McCain-Palin ticket. The answer is, of course. There is a point where all of our issues, including abortion rights, are made safer not only if the people we vote for agree with us – but when those people and our society embrace a respect for women and promote policies that increase our personal wealth, power and political influence.
Make no mistake – the Democratic Party and its nominee have created the powerhouse that is Sarah Palin, and the party’s increased attacks on her (and even on her daughter) reflect that panic.
The party has moved from taking the female vote for granted to outright contempt for women. That’s why Palin represents the most serious conservative threat ever to the modern liberal claim on issues of cultural and social superiority. Why? Because men and women who never before would have considered voting for a Republican have either decided, or are seriously considering, doing so.
They are deciding women’s rights must be more than a slogan and actually belong to every woman, not just the sort approved of by left-wing special interest groups.
Palin’s candidacy brings both figurative and literal feminist change. The simple act of thinking outside the liberal box, which has insisted for generations that only liberals and Democrats can be trusted on issues of import to women, is the political equivalent of a nuclear explosion.
The idea of feminists willing to look to the right changes not only electoral politics, but will put more women in power at lightning speed as we move from being taken for granted to being pursued, nominated and appointed and ultimately, sworn in.
It should be no surprise that the Democratic response to the McCain-Palin ticket was to immediately attack by playing the liberal trump card that keeps Democrats in line – the abortion card – where the party daily tells restless feminists the other side is going to police their wombs.
The power of that accusation is interesting, coming from the Democrats – a group that just told the world that if you have ovaries, then you don’t count.
Yes, both McCain and Palin identify as anti-abortion, but neither has led a political life with that belief, or their other religious principles, as their signature issue. Politicians act on their passions – the passion of McCain and Palin is reform. In her time in office, Palin’s focus has not been to kick the gays and make abortion illegal; it has been to kick the corrupt and make wasteful spending illegal. The Republicans are now making direct appeals to Clinton supporters, knowingly crafting a political base that would include pro-choice voters.
On the day McCain announced her selection as his running mate, Palin thanked Clinton and Ferraro for blazing her trail. A day later, Ferraro noted her shock at Palin’s comment. You see, none of her peers, no one, had ever publicly thanked her in the 24 years since her historic run for the White House. Ferraro has since refused to divulge for whom she’s voting. Many more now are realizing that it does indeed take a woman – who happens to be a Republican named Sarah Palin.
Tammy Bruce is the author of “The New American Revolution” (HarperCollins, 2005) and a Fox News political contributor. She is a former president of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Organization for Women. A registered Democrat her entire adult life until February, she now is registered as a decline-to-state voter. E-mail comments to insight@sfchronicle.com.
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206 bruce55555
I have to disagree with your assessment of oboy’s muslim mention on stephanopoulis this morning as a Freudian slip.
Oboy was saying that he was glad mccain didn’t go after him about (the accusation) his being muslim.
It was just a poorly worded sentence / phrase, and was self-corrected immediately.
588 Anna7000
Nice to be back. Terrible trip. got to the cabin and a water pipe had broke. Lol. Spent my first vacation in three years tearing carpet and fighting mold.
Thnaks Anna.
Was going to go hunting for sharks teeth in the mountains , found out the locals won’t because of some spore that makes you sick and sometimes kills you. Spore comes up when your digging for the teeth.
Anyway glad to see the resources all set up.
Can’t wait to get active. There was a democrartic headquarters setting up the day I left i the little town I was close to. Couldn’t go say hi. No one was there yet.
Did see a couple “O’ supporters. Wlked by them gave them the fist and yelled PUMA!!! They just kind of stood there with their mouths open.
I’m six ft 200 plus lbs and my buddy makes two of me. Big beard and HUGE. We looked like mountain men after a couple days in the back country. Big old knives on our belts and old walking staffs. Think we scared them a little. Was hilarious.
Here’s an analysis of why and how HC would have won a roll call vote: http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/09/she-could-have-won.html .
The crushing in detail of the delegates was an absolute necessity for Oblabla to win.
Good night Anna.
“Going back to 1999, John McCain did an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle saying that overturning Roe v. Wade would not make any sense, because then women would have to have illegal abortions.” Since he made this statement, McCain has waivered. Read the entire article.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/from_the_rnc_podium_mccain_doe.html
This and Sarah Palin’s position on abortion is what I have to fight with my family when I say that we cannot support Obama. I don’t believe that they will overturn roe v wade even if they get more conservative judges in the supreme court. Hillary, Obama and Biden voted for Alito and Roberts. Why didn’t they vote no on these conservative judges? The democrats who voted for these men should have had more fortitude and voted no until someone was nominated that everyone could have lived with.
I really believe (although I don’t think that it will happen) that if McCain and Palin came out and said that they are pro abortion, but don’t believe that Roe v Wade should be overturned because of all the problems and back alley procedures that result from this, that they feel that it is in the best interest of the nation if it remains the way it is!! If they said that, do you know how many more votes they would get. It would be a shoe in!!!
Thanks NFTP!!!
SouthJersey Puma, I read the entire article and you are right. Keep boycotting NBC and their affiliates: MSNBC, CNBC, Bravo – am I missing any?
They only removed those sexist pigs from anchoring the debates and the election night show. Both will be present as “analyzers”. The are just anal recepticles to me.
I am writing a letter to Zucker – head of NBC tomorrow. “Perceived bias” my hiney. It will be professional, don’t worry. Just venting here.
Yaaaaaaaaa! Good to hear Tennaseepuma…. I have been asking about you alnight, and I’m sure many have been scratching their heads over it too! Meow! Hello, and welcome the world little Shawdow, Soot, and Puma! (gee, I wonder where ever did you get the name puma from? : )
oh, and are they all tri-color too?
#584 erickaAZ
Thanks, I’m on it.
DWP;
Several listenings fail to support your reinterpretation. “What McCain says is” is not there, or implied.
Suggestion: find, please, a Muslim who knows Oblabla’s background who does NOT think he’s a Muslim. Good luck with that.
We it is the year of the Puma if the Puma isn’t it? lol
as to the 497# post by leahsomething
# yes, she was an Assembly of God Holy Roller. No, she doesn’t attend an AoG church now. Yes, she did leave the AoG because they were getting too weird for her.
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/sarah-palin-sexism-watch/
ok I meant it is the year of the Puma………
BOYCOTT CNN, NBC, MSNBC
WE the people has the POWER to say enough is enough of this three networks with their partisanship. This three TV stations depend on advertising to stay in business, if we start boycotting this three networks, their ratings will go down, advertising revenue will go down. CNN is owned by TIME WARNER; if you internet server is Time Warner, find another server in your area. NBC, MSNBC is owned by GENERAL ELECTRIC, don’t buy products with GE logo, and use another brand.
This three TV stations are PARTISAN, they’ve done it to Hillary, now they’re doing it to Sarah Palin. Journalists should stay neutral; these people have crossed the line far too many times. These reporters don’t observe their Code of Ethics anymore; they’ve become part of a political machine, they’ve become the mouthpiece of the extreme leftwingnuts of the Democratic Party. If you visit their website, do NOT click those ads they have.
If these reporters lose their job due to their bias reporting, they better ask NObama for salary; they’ve lose their credibility in serving the people. Don’t watch Oprah Winfrey Show and her OH! Network. We have to do a prowl on these companies using their network to advertise their products. We must tell them direct to the point we will boycott their products if they advertise to these networks. If you’re a subscriber to US Weekly, please cancel your subscription, the same goes with National Enquirer.
We don’t have to put up with these pundits and their commentators; we have recourse, BOYCOTT THEM! Let’s hurt them where it hurt the most, REVENUE.
Don’t forget newspapers too like New York Times.
Any California PUMAS here tonight? Does anyone know anything about the AG’s investigation into voter fraud and intimidation? I haven’t received any info since I got my first response.
TO: Gina613; Kelligesq; LaureyPuma;
#63 gina613
I absolutely agree about writing the McCain campaign. I have sent several emails via the McCain campaign website.
- I let them know when a particular campaign ad speaks to me and why it might speak to others who share my point of view as a Hillary supporter.
- I let them know when a pundit did a good job of speaking about issues that matter to me as a Hillary supporter and encourage that they get that pundit on more tv news shows.
- I let them know what I can support (when there is something) within what is said by McCain in a speech or interview.
- I promote the idea that I hope McCain will utilize the expertise of Hillary in the next 4 years.
So YES – definitely we should write the McCain campaign!
#58 Kelligesq
Thanks so much for reposting my comments (#659 NoHillaryNoVote).
I realized I had posted on an old thread so I also reposted today (#71 NoHillaryNoVote) – before I saw your repost.
#79 LaureyPuma
Your idea of writing to those who work with or around key RNC/McCain commentators & pundits is also a great idea. I have been focusing specifically on the main commentators or main RNC pundits – but your strategy is sound.
Communicating also with people who are close to those we are trying to reach (and who we hope we can encourage to repeat our reasons for No Obama) – makes so much sense – assuming that these closely related people have influence.
Anyone who knows the names of those who work closely WITH or FOR Fox commentators or RNC / McCain Pundits –please post the names so we can try to contact by letter, email or fax.
Wow! Too little, too late.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/media/08msnbc.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
Ericka they are all different,one is black and gray,one is white and dark orange,one is calico.
still made me giggle… all the little baby mews… glad everything went well… : )
TO: mccaindemo; Amarissa; NJ1313
#84 mccaindemo
You are right on target. If each one of us commits to take the time and begin our own personal letter or email campaign (in ADDITION to what we do within the PUMA prowls) – our individual voices do matter.
We have to keep reminding others that this is ALSO about the DNC – not just BO.
At this point all I’m trying to do is write something every day to somebody. Election day is getting close and I feel an urgency for getting the message out about the DNC in the media – so I’m looking around to see who might speak up on our behalf. What I write may not be perfect as I’m usually rushing to write before or after work, but at I feel like at least I’m doing my part to be heard.
When BO loses I don’t want the DNC to be able to say “oh – it was all about racism”. Instead I want there to be some serious questioning within the Democratic party about what role the DNC (and especially Dean & Pelosi) played in pushing away Democrats and disrespecting our voting process and tuning out our voices. I want the discussions after the election to be about what mistakes the DNC made with Hillary and with their own democratic voters who supported Hillary. I want BO to look at the DNC and question if they were the best allies to have, and if he would not have done better to align himself with Hillary as his VP.
#85 Amarissa
Sorry I missed your post on Saturday. I try to scan through all the postings each day but sometimes I just don’t have the time to read them all. I’m glad to hear what I wrote is in line with what you proposed too.
I’m going to give some more thought to your idea of creating a list that targets specific issues with key points. I like the idea that we could then all pick & choose from the list based on what matters to each of us personally. It’s our small way of injecting a voice into the pundits script but we would have some “meat” / facts from our own resource network to strengthen what we are writing.
#382 NJ1313
Thanks for your comments.
597~
hey Snow!! glad you had a safe trip, but sorry it was some what of a bummer~
now..
“Walked by them gave them the fist and yelled PUMA!!! They just kind of stood there with their mouths open.”
made me go into a bad belly laugh!!
#571 BilleJo:
Thanks for the link. I will never believe that murder was anything other than a political assassination.
612#
already posted 5 x’s…
616 SouthJerseyPUMA
Lol. Yeah it was funny. I wanted to swing by the HQ last night we were there and leave a message. My buddy said I was being childish (this from a man who enjoys “Vern” movies) and since it was his truck I couldn’t.
Imagine a very large PUMA paw print on a window.
605 BrianH
I wasn’t quoting anyone. When obiy said the muslim thing, stephanopoulis corrected, and obama rephrased his statement.
Brian, your name is familiar… didn’t you used to be a commenter here?
#611 NHNV,
You are a terrific writer. Thanks for putting your ideas out there. Please share some of your contacts so that we can write to them as well. I will do some more searching tomorrow – the home computer is dial up and it takes forever to find anything. I need to use my computer at work. When I find addresses I will post.
Here is another link about David Gregory taking the place of Matthews and Olberman in covering future political news at MSNBC:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080908/pl_politico/20838
TOPIC: MCCain pulls ahead in polls
#49 – sandtraps,
Re- the Gallup Poll, we _NEED_ to get them to start polling voters about “If Hillary Clinton were running”!
PUMA’s – who was it who was working on this, please respond w/any info, & thanks!
Recap: NoHillayNoVote .. and a question
First this is a huge and dynamic place. Wonderful, but that makes it difficult to keep track of things and get anything done. Let me give you an example from today… and you will see what I mean.
Keep in mind that the purpose was to create action from NoHillaryNoVote’s wonderful post. It was difficult to get conversation started and was almost impossible to sustain.
So I am asking ….how do groups of Pumas devoted to a particular action come together and sustain it?
#58 Kelligesq called out NoHillaryNoVote as “brilliant”
#63 Gina613 concurred
#71 NoHillaryNoVote moved her original comment to this thread
#79 LaureyPuma quickly concurred
#84 mccaindemo also picked it up
#85 Amarissa saw the value of it
#209 PumaPal (me) posted to get the conversation going on the original ideas I then posted #232 and #250
#256 LureyPuma posts to me to start some action
#292 PumaPal (me) misses LauraPuma’s response but posts
#298 webfoot responses with desire for action
#310 PumaPal (me) suggests two strategies to try
#312 LaureyPuma instantly responds with a suggestion
#317 PumaPal (me) asks LaureyPuma for more info
#320 webfoot responds with action she has already taken
#322 LaureyPuma responds to webfoot
#326 LaureyPuma responds to me
#337 PumaPal (me) replys back to Laurey and webfoot
#341 PumaPal (me) post info
#343 PumaPal (me) posts again
#382 NJ1313 comments of the initial post on NoHillaryNoVote
#426 LaureyPuma gives me needed information
#448 PumaPal (me) responds to LaureyPuma
#513, 524, 535 Pumapal posts three contacts
#516, 520 osaka puma gives encouragement
#580 LaureyPuma responds with her plans for action
I think this gives a good view of the problem if you try to follow each of these posts. It takes forever and is tedious. Only someone who is very determined will do it. Help … especially if there is a desire to act and get results.
Dances: I sent that letter by Lynette Long you posted to all of my friends & contacts today. Now 2 of my closest friends are mad at me, they can’t make cool bumper stickers like you can, though! ;D
p.s. That letter was quite a statement.
#512 scarlet wrote:
“OLBERMANN AND CHRIS MATTHEWS DROPPED
MSNBC drops Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews from anchor chair… David Gregory will anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/media/08msnbc.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin”
Kneeling on the ground be for her own sword shampoovta thanks her maker for this victory. Chivalry!
BillieJo–Thanks for the links to two great articles.
#17 LotusBoy: Thanks! I am doing as well as can be expected. I have a great family around me and my Mom lived 89 good years and chose how she went out. Once we got her in hospice she was in a great mood for her last 4 days. But apparently hospice is not covered by Medicare however they would have continued paying for unwanted medicines and procedures indefinitely. This is very bad for poor folks.
So sorry, NoHillaryNoVote, I missed your posts at #611 and #615
I am glad you are back since it was your post that inspired me!
You know I would really like a very large puma paw print stamp. I think I might make one out of a sponge if I can’t find one. I feel some mischief coming on.
#310 PumaPal – you have shared much good information today in your several posts.
1 – I’ll gladly write advertisers. I just hadn’t thought about doing that. I’ve so very much been searching for a way to impact MSNBC. I quickly realized that writing the commentators was a waste of time because they don’t care. So instead I scan the Internet and look for publication websites that have articles posted talking about the NBC or MSNBC or CNN bias – and then I always try to chime in my agreement where they have an option to add a comment.
But your idea of writing advertisers who sponsor the specific shows is a good idea. MSNBC might ignore volume of letters – but advertisers might be more concerned at large numbers of negative reactions.
From now on I’m going to pay attention to the ads that I see on MSNBC when those commentators talking are making me nuts or have me yelling at the tv, and I will take the time to write the advertiser a letter. I’m guessing that many of those companies (advertisers) have websites with a place on the site for “Contact Us” where they invite consumers to send comments, and I will definitely make my thoughts be heard going forward.
2 – Your point about respectfully writing to columnists & reporters is very important. Our goal is to get the individual (a RNC / McCain pundit) receiving our communication to actually read it.
- We all know most of these commentators or columnists or pundits have “readers” who are pre-reading email & letters that are sent in, and so our goal is to get that first level screener to read our letter. Whether that screener is passing on the email/letter or summarizing for someone else – we don’t want what we submit to get tossed. The minute the screener sees profanity or what could be interpreted as “hate mail” directed toward BO or if they view as simply ranting -– they will stop reading. So if we use disrespectful language in discussing BO or the DNC, we are less likely to be read by the RNC / McCain pundits.
- When I write I don’t just complain or vent. Instead I try to list my reasons for not voting for BO in a manner that would allow someone to actually repeat my words or quote me.
- I had to tone down the really over-the-top negative descriptors of BO or the DNC (even if it’s how I felt) and instead use language that identifies that I have thought about my reasons and can present my thoughts logically with my emotions under control.
- I try to imagine someone reading my letter on one of those tv news shows – and what wording could I write that would be appropriate for that setting. I try to provide specifics that can be repeated. I want to hear the pundits saying on the tv news shows “some Hillary supporters feel that…”
- Let’s face it – I have lots of negative opinions about BO and many examples of why I will not vote for him – but those we are writing – they need specifics. Such as I try to explain what exactly did I hear or see or read that influenced me to conclude that BO was not the candidate for me. Or what exactly do I believe the DNC did (action) and why did it personally offend me / upset me.
- I decided that it’s not enough to say I’m mad at the DNC & I’m not voting for BO”. – and then to write on and on along that theme. Instead I want to have the RNC/McCain pundits or tv commentators talk to the other Hillary supporters and explain why voting for BO is not working for me as a Hillary supporter – so those out in the viewing audience who are unaware can consider the PUMA option of not voting for BO. I want those Hillary supporters who ONLY watch mainstream tv for their political news and to date believe the DNC/BO pundits who say “all Hillary supporters will vote for BO” – I want them to know that is simply NOT true!
#597 snowtiger – Hillarious, & welcome home!
#630 Seattlegirl
NOw now. We discourage anything that may be unlawful.
Of course if you want such a stamp for your own legal purposes you could use many small sponges and glue them on a piece of fabric. Easy to roll up and carry around.
RE: Oberman and Matthews; Bill O’Reilly explains:
With much of the nation sampling TV coverage of the Democratic Convention, things are getting a bit dicey for NBC News. For months, that organization has tilted heavily toward promoting Barack Obama for president, thereby violating traditional journalistic tenets.
According to a recent study by the Media Research Center, NBC News has the most lopsided pro-Obama coverage among national TV news operations. The MRC found that pro-Obama reports outnumber anti-Obama reports by 10 to one on NBC News, an amazing statistic.
The Media Research Center is where we need to send sexist bias. Cnn, ABC and CBS should be next!!!
http://www.billoreilly.com/newslettercolumn?pid=24133
#632 hillstheone
Evening Hills, thanks, glad to be back in the den.
Other stories on the 2008 election:
Bush’s Third Term
The Donna Brazile – Karl Rove Connection
Obama’s October Surprise
Bamboozling the American Electorate Again
Still Under the Bus with Senator Clinton
Election ’08 Rogues Gallery of Journalists
Who is Nancy Pelosi? (PDF file)
Michael Moore Weighs In on the Primaries
This site has guts.
Go wants to get together with us, let me know when you have time.
http://www.thecityedition.com
Forgot the site…here it is Greenfunny.
Miss you.
If any PUMAs want a list of MSNBC sponsors, I prepared a one in June when PUMAs first began. The list includes addresses, phone and fax information and all brands associated with each individual sponsor.
Since I seldom watch MSNBC anymore, I’m not sure how up to date the sponsor list is, so it is possible, though not likely I would think, that some sponsors have changed (or additional ones added). In any case, it is a start.
If you want me to send you a copy of this information, you can email at “missypuma” at gee mail dot com.
PumaPal, I don’t know you, but I love you.
I am going to write and phone all of the contacts you have listed today, tomorrow and Tuesday. I am also going to find contacts at Fox or other news sources to write about the possibility of voter fraud in Ohio.
I am going to come back to the blog and brag about it. I hope others will do the same.
Brick by brick. Please email me at laureyontheprowl@gmail for further information, if you need to because it will be faster.
Keith Olberfart?? Who’s he? Poof, and he’s gone.
#638 MISSY
Yes. I definately want the list. Would you please email it to me at laureyontheprowl@gmail.com?
I want to get started right away. Thanks so much!
and just in case, we want Hill at the top of the ticket, no last second VP junk… she won, he must give it back… No Vp spot for our votes, we can’t give up….
$638, Missy.
I got so excited I did not read your entire post. I have emailed you.
I’m very concerned about the violation of all the tenets of our Constitution, and I’ve noticed neither side has mentioned a word about restoring it .
Got this in the e mail today:
“It’s time candidates start talking about…
…rejecting warrantless wiretapping.
…closing Guantánamo.
…ending torture.
Let candidates know that you are a Constitution Voter and get your free bumper sticker today.
Dear ACLU Supporter,
You can’t ignore the Constitution.
For eight years now, that’s what we’ve been telling the Bush administration with every lawsuit we’ve filed . . . every illegal act we’ve exposed . . . every dangerous piece of legislation we’ve challenged.
And now, we’ve got to deliver that same “You can’t ignore the Constitution” message to every candidate running for office in 2008.
The ACLU has come up with a powerful way to make it clear that, for millions of voters all across America, there is nothing more important than protecting the Constitution.
Sign the ACLU’s “I Am a Constitution Voter” pledge and get your free bumper sticker now.
American voters are being buried in a blizzard of speeches, TV ads, emails and phone calls from political candidates. But are they talking about the issues that matter to you?
They’re not debating how quickly to close down Guantánamo and how to do it right. Who will act with energy and conviction to restore our lost liberties? Who will put their foot down to end torture? Who will hold accountable those who condoned illegal activities?
Well, it’s time to introduce a new kind of voter to the political lexicon. And it’s time to focus the candidates seeking our votes and the media covering these elections on some fundamental issues involving core American principles.
Sign the ACLU’s “I Am a Constitution Voter” pledge and get your free bumper sticker right now.
On September 17th — Constitution Day — the ACLU will officially launch our “I Am a Constitution Voter” campaign.
Our Goal: To make sure that candidates running for office and media outlets covering their campaigns know that there are millions of voters who care deeply about protecting the Constitution and defending the Bill of Rights.
Our Strategy: If we want politicians and the media to focus on protecting the Constitution after the elections, we’ve got to get them to discuss our fundamental freedoms before the elections.
You can help set the stage for our “I Am a Constitution Voter” campaign.
Sign the ACLU’s “I Am a Constitution Voter” pledge and get your free bumper sticker right now.
We’ll be telling you about lots of other ways in which the ACLU is going to make sure the future of our fundamental freedoms is at the center of the debate in the weeks ahead.
But, it all starts with you and other ACLU supporters stepping forward to declare: “I Am a Constitution Voter.”
Let us hear from you. Better still, let them hear from you. Act right now.
sign up here:
https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=bumper_sticker&s_s=email1&JServSessionIdr012=iyr7cnixx2.app26a
In defense of freedom,
Anthony D. Romero
Executive Director
ACLU
our WalMart store has Obama halloween masks
Murphy,
I think we need some Pumas to go to camp Obama and become deputy field marshals for the battleground states. (I mean keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.) Nothing like first hand knowledge.
Caucus Fraud
#371 SouthJerseyPUMA – Maybe that’s a good link to give Carrie to post under “Caucus Fraud,” I’m sure she’s got a list started…
Murphy,
We need to become familiar with Saul Alinsky’s handbook because that is the game plan we are fighting. It will help us to know how to form our own counter strategy.
#638 Missy , why don’t you just post the list here, I’m sure a lot of people would appreciate it.
645 Pookie
Now thats just to much. I mean Halloween is supposed to be scary but, thats just to far over the line imo. The kids will have nightmares for years to come.
#646 CyberFerret52
Good idea. Maybe we can start a fund for stealth pumas to go.
snowtiger I hope no one comes to my door with one on. I go all out for Halloween I might just give him some odor eaters and watch him disappear.
TOPIC: EMAIL ADDY’s
Re: #58 Kelligesq – ONE OF MOST BRILLIANT POSTS ON PUMA PAC
#659 NoHillaryNoVote on 09.07.08 at 1:09 pm
Please post the Email addy’s for FOX & others.
thinking about # 29
some of us should really go – to find out how they intend to intimidate voters, to confirm the policy of shouting racist in people’s faces as a form of intimidation, and to become community organizers – har har har on the last…
but I can’t as I’ll be on vacation where there are no hurricanes
must go bbl.
Billiejo (& SoJerseyPuma),
I like the cityedition link, I bookmarked it, thanks for posting.
Are you laughing about the Olbermann / Matthews thing? I’d swear they had a falling out because Matthews was mad he got the brunt of the PUMA fury that day in Denver instead of Olbermann, lol…
Two very incisive posts about the self-defeating core of the Oblabla camp:
Divided Democratic Party to spite and demean HC
Conventional wisdom foresees Democratic loss.
PUMA PAL
your #624
I’m in agreement.
You will notice that yesterday and today I have barely been on thread.
I simply cannot spend 3 to 5 hours a day going through one continuous blog of 600 to 900/1000 messages.
The suggestion has been made tht the blog should change over to one with separate columns and titles.
It’s a very good suggestion.
TOPIC: Hear-ye, hear ye, “IN SUMMATION…” !!!
Billiejo, I was just reading yesterday’s posts & liked what you wrote, am re-posting it here in case some people missed it. & then going to bed, tomorrow’s Monday!
Be well, everyone.
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The Big Picture
BillieJo on 09.07.08 at 12:13 am
Okay PUMAs let’s look at the big picture of this election, putting aside the corruption and party policies for a minute and look at what both parties have in common.
1. Neither candidate has any experience in economics.
2. Neither candidate has members in high places that are trustworthy.
3. Iraq wants the US out of their country, so the end is near for both even if some troupes are left in to watch over the situation.
4. Both candidates keep talking about energy independence yet both have ties to the oil companies.
5. Both candidates want to control women’s reproductive rights.
BO supports this theory because he did everything in his crooked past to prevent Hillary from winning and even becoming VP. The Democrats have used Roe vs Wade over women’s heads since the amedndment was first past. Palin may be a woman, but she is more of a pretty pawn that does not serve woman’s rights except as a female to puncture the glass ceiling.
One is more crooked than the other, that we know. One has no experience in anything needed as President.
Why are the polls still even, with all the flash and mirrors that have been tossed out, the millions of dollars that have been spent to persuade voters to come to their side.
Am I missing something here, could the missing people in the poll statistics be JUST PUMAs…or people that don’t know they are PUMAs but have the same gut feelings?
If so, we will determine the next President, we will finally get back at our party back good for tossing out our votes, we will get back at the DNC and Obama for stabbing the Clinton’s in the back. Yes, the poor Democrats will have to take our vote seriously in the future. They will have to respect women’s rights, not just putting in a female that is pro-life.
We will have the last say in this election even if our media and party have failed votes, we will not fall for the BS of either party. We will vote and split this election wide open.
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hills add-on comment: “and we’ll keep waiting for Hillary to come back!!” Miracles do happen.
Bill clinton extended Obama a lunch invitation for Thursday. WTF????????
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_el_pr/obama_clinton
# 236 PumaPal
Yes – what you shared is exactly the kind of details I look for when I visit the PUMA site. People share links to articles that I’ve not read – articles which support what PUMA is promoting so we can write to express support.
- In addition to writing a personal note to the author of an article, I try to visit the publication website and see if the article is online as many times one can register and write a response directly to the article on that publications website.
- So it’s a two prong strategy that I use – (1) a personal email to the author to offer kudos and to explain why what was written matches my views as a Hillary supporter – and (2) then a more public response in the online thread attached to the article that says I agree and says loud & clear that I will not be voting for Obama.
- Of course the trick with the 2nd strategy (writing on the publication where article is posted) is that I don’t go back to the online thread to read all the attacks that come at me from Obama supporters – that’s just a waste of time to start debating all of them. Debating the BO voters is what I did during the primary season, but now that we are in the election season and I don’t believe I am going to be able to really influence any BO supporters at this stage.
– In both cases I identify my demographics (race, age, gender) so others will not make assumptions about who I am.
And I like that you are a door-to-doorer. PUMA needs to get the word out in every way we can. I read the other day about ideas regarding fliers for distribution, etc. We need all that too. I’m more of an Internet person but I totally respect that there are many ways to get things done. Phone call, faxes, emails, letters, in-person – it all is important!
#209 & #292 PumaPal
You pose some really good questions of where strategies would be of value. I am going to start thinking about what you asked and I encourage others to offer input as well. There are some very smart people who are PUMAs who probably have some great ideas to respond to your request for strategies.
“Barack, my friend, if ya wan ta get out of da swamp, ya gonna hav ta let my liddle lady lead ya.”
let them know, and let it be heard: Hill #1 or no votes!…
I WAS A HILLARY SUPPORTER. HOWEVER SHE IS NO LONGER RUNNING. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY. AND STOP LOOKING FOR MIRACLES. VOTING McCAIN/PALIN.
I will vote McCain/Palin, but I will also change it if 61 suddenly understands he is VP and Hill is P….
hahaha ErikaAZ
I mean seriously, Bill should be demanding some stuff from Obama….
Like get out of the election
#663 erickaAZ
it wont happen.. it is over so move on to what choices we have as none of this is a joke!
SouthJerseyPuma, I am taking it all very seriously. I sense 61 squirming and plotting…. And just so he knows, it is Hill on top, or McCain n Palin for my vote… Nothing less….
good evening PUMA’s I was just checking in on what was going on here. I got cable finally and am NOW connected to the world…yay for that.
But besides that I was checking one of my other account and forums that I’m on (it’s an anime site to post pictures and photo’s) and this one girl posted on my account saying that she wished Obama would win because he was for gay marriage….
I don’t really recall him saying anything like that…what should I tell this girl? She’s sixteen and I think has drunk the punch along with her parents…
644 Kelligesq
Guantánamo??? IMO, I dont think that terriost have rights!! and i dont think that aclu crap belongs on here! you got it as “your” email~ keep it that way!
hill will nopt be on top!! stop dreaming!! it wont happen!!! whew! do you read any of these threads/links posted? stop already!!
billiejo~ i cant take the newbies.. ping me per last night!
jeesh… amazing!!!
512 scarlet on 09.07.08 at 10:24 pm
OLBERMANN AND CHRIS MATTHEWS DROPPED
Woohoo tweety’s gone : – )
72 NH Dad
You are awesome.
try decaf, it isn’t as stressful as you make it… I am fine and secure with my vote and with my mind… and the newbies comment was not needed… relax
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_muslim_mccain/2008/09/07/128559.html?s=al&promo _code=6975-1
SOUTH JERSEY
IF YOU DIDNT LIKE THE FISA BILL AND THE TELCOMS GETTING OFF THE HOOK, YOU SHOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE ACLU RESTORING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES,. YOU’RE GODDAM RIGHT IT BELONGS ON HERE, AND IF THAT’S NOT PART OF WHAT IS BEING FOUGHT FOR HERE, I GODDAM WELL DONT BELONG HERE WITH A BUNCH OF SHORT SIGHTED TUNNEL VISION PEOPLE PLAYING AT RECOVERING DEMOCRACY.
PRIVATE MAIL IS ALSO INFORMATION SOUTH JERSEY OR HAVENT YOU FIGURED THAT OUT.
http://www.newsmax.com/ruddy/Obama_Secret_Strategy/2008/09/07/128063.html
SOUTH JERSEY
I ALSO DONT EXPECT TO BE TALKED TO BY YOU, LIKE THAT, EVER AGAIN
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670 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.08.08 at 2:20 am
644 Kelligesq
Guantánamo??? IMO, I dont think that terriost have rights!! and i dont think that aclu crap belongs on here! you got it as “your” email~ keep it that way!
#624PumaPal: I am amused by your post. Having spent the time to construct an annotated bibliography of posts, the purpose of which seems to be to reveal a problem here, you then note how tedious it is to go through the posts…and wonder how we get anything done…It is a fascinating place, similar to the sharing of morse code signals, communication in shorthand that makes sense if one is committed to be here over time.
The dynamic of this blog and pac and the all of what we have accomplished, among other things, have you noticed ? we will determine the outcome of this election . You need to hang around more and longer .
Or, for example, rather than constructing an annotated bibliography of posts, you could simply pick one or two or three of the posts and seek further information.
This is a very fertile site, lots is going on all the time.
And, I assure you much has and will continue to get done here.
#669 MakowashiNatsuko on 09.08.08 at 2:16 am
Search for variations on ‘To me, marriage is a man and a woman’. That’s what Obama is on record saying.
Obamas new organizatiob groups ,
TheWhisperSFanclub-South@yahoogroups.com
This was sent to me in a e-mail and when i wrote her back and told her i was not interested then she wrote back and said i was a racist ,I have been freinds with her for years. She knows better than that.
Russia has announced today that they are moving warships into the Caribbean. Of course a payback for
George’s missiles in Georgia.
That will affect the election. With threatened war or a challenge similar to the Cuban missile crisis, either Putin wants McCain to be President, or he’s betting Obama will be and he can run all over him.
These are not just interesting times, they are perilous times for the United States.
#661 NoHillaryNoVote on 09.08.08 at 1:49 am
# 236 PumaPal
Yes – what you shared is exactly the kind of details I look for when I visit the PUMA site. People share links to articles that I’ve not read – articles which support what PUMA is promoting so we can write to express support.
- In addition to writing a personal note to the author of an article, I try to visit the publication website and see if the article is online as many times one can register and write a response directly to the article on that publications website.
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You might be interested in PumaResponders.com. Like the old HIllary Responders, we’re an email group that sends out alerts about articles that need response.
#683Kelligesq: ….they are perilous times for the US..
You are so right. I believe the peril within is the most dangerous, for if the peril of an Obama Presidency is not stopped, the very nature of this democratic Republic is at stake. Why I have said to the younger Pumas here , this is the cause of their lifetime!
I have been coming here since Murphy opened and i have learned so much and i love to go around the web and see what i can find new. Also suscribe to all the online news papers for breaking news political. You would be amazed at what people on here find and write and the way they make changes and try to make a better Democracy and fight for Human Rights.
hillistheone said:
Am I missing something here, could the missing people in the poll statistics be JUST PUMAs…or people that don’t know they are PUMAs but have the same gut feelings?
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Haven’t seen a recent poll of Hil’s but up till the conventions I’ve been comparing polls for months at turndownobama.com and a diary at clintondems that links from it. In June and July Opinion Research asked Hil supporters waht they were going to do and about half said vote for Obama but the other half was maybe 3 million for McCain and 4 million protesting by staying home.
Most of the polls seem to ignore the stayhomes and just count those who will actually vote for McCain, which is about 20-30% of those they poll.
I have been ill and very tired but i used to be able to spend 10 to 12 hours a day on here. I hope i can again soon. We deffinately need to keep making changes in this country for all our sakes. I will start soon manning phones for the other campaign but will allways wish and want Hillary. It broke my heart to see her on TV for a minute today she was so loud and clear about how we must vote for Obama and the Democratic Party. She had heavy lines under her eyes and looked tired. I felt like someone had put a knife in my heart and agun behind her head.
#658 Kelligesq on 09.08.08 at 1:30 am
The suggestion has been made tht the blog should change over to one with separate columns and titles.
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That software is set up ready for us to use at pumaparty.com, or was the last time I checked. They need people to participate and hopefully do some moderation.
#687turndownobama: Interesting. On another note, the USA/gallup or Sept 5-7 has McCain at 54% and Obimbo at I believe 49%. I think maybe some of those protest stay at homes may have reconsidered.
FORGIVE ME IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED. NEW INFORMATION ON THE MUSLIM BO!!
Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics
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ST. LOUIS, Mo. – Sen. Barack Obama’s foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, “my Muslim faith.”
The three words — immediately corrected — were during an exchange with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “This Week,” when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.
But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.
Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it “deeply offensive” that there are efforts “coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I’m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith.”
The exchange came after Mr. Obama said that Republicans are attempting to scare voters by suggesting he is not Christian, which McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said was “cynical.”
Asked about it on ABC, Mr. Obama said, “These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand.”
“The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections,” said Mr. Stephanopoulos, who repeatedly interrupted Mr. Obama during the interview.
“I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks,” Mr Obama responded, and Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted: “But John McCain said that’s wrong.”
Mr. Obama noted that when Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin “was forced” to talk about her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, he issued a forceful statement to reporters that the line of inquiry was “off limits.” But he said the McCain campaign tried to tie him to “liberal blogs that support Obama” and are “attacking Governor Palin.”
“Let’s not play games,” he said. “What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come.”
Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, “Christian faith.”
“My Christian faith,” Mr. Obama said quickly. “Well, what I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith — something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.”
Asked to comment on the accidental misstatement illustrating the difficulty of the issue, Obama spokesman Bill Burton offered this comment: “I’m not surprised that the only outlet doing this story is The Washington Times.”
You can view the full context of Mr. Obama’s comments on ABC here.
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Erika 675 – agree with your newbies criticism. patience is a virtue. If this site stops listening to others and thinking about what is said, it will lose credibility.
As I look at all the suggestions, I am reminded of meetings that I have attended in which there is a lot of talking at one time which results in others not really hearing what everyone is saying. I fear that is what is happening here. There are many good suggestions. However, Murphy as our leader, really is the one who has to mull all of them over and then arrive at “the plan of attack”. As in any organization, also, there are committees that are set up to for different objectives. Perhaps, that is what needs to be done here – some way or the other. If there are those PUMAS who live near each other, they can form a committee either under Will’s or Murphy’s tutelage. Of course, the prowls are also working well.
No one expected this group to grow as quickly and as big as it did. As an organization grows, it needs more direction at the top so that it does not become overwhelming and out of control. Murphy and Will, do you think that you should form some sort of “governing body” that all organizations have in order to decide how and what should be done, how and what monies should be raised etc., (different committees etc.) so that it doesn’t all fall on your shoulders? Just some suggestions!!!
Also, for anyone who is interested – Sarah Palin’s plans for global warming in Alaska.
http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-32531.html
good morning pumas
#692 LuckySeven
That is a great idea, I have assisted companies in turning their top down management into the bottoms up paradigm. This type of organization would be helpful as would reorganizing this blog site into categories that are user friendly.
Lucky Seven: This group’s success exists precisely because of the natur e of the structure here, not despite it. New people, like all new people in a group,
need to take the time to learn what is going on and not seek immediate knowledge of everything at once. This is a dynamic site and interchange…moving…and proposing and composing directions and actions…This is not a drop in site for a quick fix of overview. No one legislated that…the dynamic nature of the site results in at least a committment to engage, before one critizes, i.e. new people I mean. We were all new once .
But one can not expect in a physical group that meets somewhere or especially here that one somehow needs to know everything that everyone is involved in. That is simply an unreal…cyber influenced unreal expectation .
I am so sleepy that I forgot to post the link to BO using the term Muslim.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/
goodmorning Storyteller,
you alwys come on just when I’m going to sleep
and about to say g’nite.
hi Storyteller i am tired and going to bed and would like someone to tell me a bedtime storey lol. I am getting senile i guess
Thanks TurndownNobama,
I’ll take a look at that site.
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New Orleans
Thanks for the blow by blow of Stephanoupolis with the
pretender.
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FineArtist
good suggestions.
Subject: Boycotting
For those who are promoting boycotting advertisers; specific tv/cable networks; specific newspapers/magazines; or specific television shows – you may want to take a look at an Internet resource “..Boycott’s Organizers Guide” http://www.coopamerica.org/PDF/GuideBoycottOrganizers.pdf
Although the guide is written to a particular audience, I think many of the suggestions & tips are good. Please note page 7 of this resource, where it discusses what to do before launching a boycott. One of the steps is that FIRST you write to voice your grievance and indicate IF the action is NOT changed THEN you will initiate a boycott. I think this is a good strategy. For me, this will be my first time writing the advertisers, and so I would like to give them time to read what we are submitting and then see if there is any change BEFORE I take the negative action of boycotting. (as compared to writing to tell advertisers what I don’t like and in the same breath say that I will begin immediately not using their products).
I’m hoping that writing the advertisers will perhaps put a reign on those pundits & commentators who were permitted to say ANYTHING they wanted about or against Hillary (and Bill) Clinton during the primaries. The media bias was so alarming. For years I had not watched Fox news and suddenly I found myself having to turn to Fox just to hear balanced news or to hear the good things about Hillary. That didn’t make any sense to me at all!
Personal note before I sign off for the night – It’s been an unbelievable year for me. I’m as dedicated as many of you are to NOT getting BO elected. And as I promoted earlier today I’m trying to identify ways to encourage RNC & McCain pundits to speak up about the views held by PUMAs & Hillary supporters.
Today I find myself in a situation I never thought would be: (1) actually talking about voting Republican for the first time in my life (2) not choosing to vote for the first African American presidential candidate (3) watching Fox news on a regular basis and (4) today I have more distrust and dislike for the DNC than I do the RNC.
Me – an African American woman – I find myself in a situation I never would have imagined. A year ago if you had told me I’d be in this situation I would have said absolutely no way!
However I KNEW things were changing for me when I became so outraged with the Democratic party & so upset at how Hillary was being treated by the media – that I found myself standing on a street in Washington DC early in the morning on Saturday May 31st – in the rain – waving a sign outside the DNC Rules Committee meeting – and yelling at the top of my lungs “count the votes!”
(p.s. – so really happy to hear that MSNBC will not have Matthews & Olbermann sitting in the anchor chairs for coverage of the upcoming debates or on election night. I’m sure those two will still be there blabbing off & on, but at least they won’t be the focal points any more).
Sandi
Have a good night. I only wish I can have half of your energy!
From your admiring fan.
ALL THE NEWS THE NEW YORK TIMES WONT PRINT
I would title this:
Who Am I Really- or Getting To Know You – or maybe even “The Friends We Keep”
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September 04, 2008
Having written a book on intellectual fraud, “Hoodwinked,” and being something of a literary detective, I had no doubt on reading Barack Obama’s 1995 memoir, “Dreams From My Father,” that Obama did not really write it.
The style is above his pay grade, way above.
As Obama tells the story of the book’s genesis, “a few publishers called” after he had been elected president of the Harvard Law Review in 1990.
In the real world, publishers don’t call unknowns unless someone influential prompts them. Obama does not tell us who.
Nor does Obama tell the reader how he got elected president of the Review in the first place. Historically, the position had gone to students whose writings in the Review had shown real skill.
Prior to his election, however, Obama had written only one unsigned note and that one heavily edited. Once elected, Obama contributed not a word.
As Matthew Franck has pointed out in National Review Online, “A search of the HeinOnline database of law journals turns up exactly nothing credited to Obama in any law review anywhere at any time.”
Beyond his ethnic appeal, however, Obama had something else going for him. As I previously reported, this information came to light last week courtesy of a newly surfaced DVD that features an interview with Percy Sutton on the New York-based “Inside City Hall.”
A Manhattan borough president for 12 years and the most powerful black politician in New York state, Sutton spoke knowingly with host Dominic Carter about the Obama candidacy.
“I was introduced to [Obama] by a friend,” Sutton told the interviewer. Sutton named the friend as “Dr. Khalid al-Mansour.” Sutton described al-Mansour as “the principle adviser to one of the world’s richest men.” The billionaire in question is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.
Knowing that Sutton had friends at Harvard, al-Mansour asked Sutton to “please write a letter in support of [Obama] … a young man that has applied to Harvard.”
Sutton gladly did so. Unclear in the interview is whether Sutton intervened to get Obama in to Harvard, to get him elected president of the Law Review, or both.
Khalid al-Mansour is a piece of work. Although impressively well connected, the Texas-born attorney and black separatist has not met the paranoid racial fantasy unworthy of his energy.
His many books include titles like “The Destruction of Western Civilization as Seen Through Islam” and “Will the West Rule Forever?”
Several of his speeches can be seen on YouTube. In one named, “A Little On the History of Jews,” he shares his distinctive insights into the creation of Israel.
“God gave you nothing,” al-Mansour says to the world’s Ashkenazi Jews in a typical rant. “The children from Poland and Russia were promised nothing. But they are stealing the land the same as the Christians stole the lands from the Indians in America.”
No matter how many books he has written, al-Mansour himself lacks the talent to have written “Dreams from My Father.” He was, however, one of many people in Obama’s network with enough money and influence to get the book written and published.
That network includes the inevitable Tony Rezko. The Syrian-born scalawag owed his bank account and his clout in Chicago politics to Jabir Herbert Muhammad, son of Nation of Islam founder Elijah Muhammad.
The younger Muhammad knew something about bogus memoirs. In the mid-1970s, he recruited the now celebrated writer Toni Morrison to “edit” Muhammad Ali’s fictionalized account of his life, “The Greatest.” Muhammad reviewed every page to make sure it hewed to the Nation’s racist worldview.
Muhammad made Rezko general manager of his company, Crucial Concessions, in 1983. Muhammad later created the Muhammad Ali Foundation to spread Islam and appointed his confidante Rezko executive director.
Just last week, Muhammad died in Chicago. “Jabir did much for the cause of Islam,” said the keynote speaker at the memorial, none other than Louis Farrakhan.
Much has been made of Rezko’s Catholic background. The question has to be asked how he could possibly head a foundation whose express purpose was to promote Islam around the world, let alone the racist Islamic cult, the Nation of Islam.
Khalid al-Mansour had other friends of influence in the literary and publishing world, foremost among them the late, literary leftist superstar and terrorist suck-up, Edward Said.
Said and Obama knew each other. A photo floating around the blogosphere shows the pair engaged in intimate discussion at an Arab-American community dinner in Chicago 1998.
Bloggers ask how a then obscure state senator managed to wangle a seat next to the evening’s keynote speaker, a man the Nation would describe as “probably the best-known intellectual in the world.”
The answer can be traced back to Obama’s two-year stint at Columbia University in the early 1980s, where Said taught as a distinguished professor of comparative literature.
The Los Angeles Times reports that Obama took at least one course from Said. The intimacy of their 1998 conversation suggests a deeper relationship.
Obama, however, will not talk at all about Said, his New York years or his trip to Pakistan during those years despite numerous requests from the New York Times.
Like Obama, Said made his deracinated childhood the central, compelling metaphor for his significant life work. His identity as a Palestinian and a refugee, driven from his homeland by Israeli violence, would inform everything he wrote.
Said did not shy from using his grief and his influence to advance his cause. For 14 years, he served on the Palestine National Conference, a kind of parliament-in-exile alongside the likes of the PLO’s Yassir Arafat and still harder core radicals from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the terrorist group that hijacked the Achille Lauro.
Unfortunately for Said, an Israeli scholar named Justus Reid Weiner did two years of hard-nosed, boots-on-the-ground background research on Said’s life and published his findings in Commentary.
Weiner had proved beyond all doubt that America’s most celebrated Palestinian refugee was not a Palestinian or a refugee, let alone a Muslim.
In reality, Said was a Christian and an American citizen from birth, who grew up not in Palestine but in Cairo, where he attended the best British schools before leaving for a pricey American prep school as a teenager.
Although the New York Times reluctantly confirmed Weiner’s findings, the major media had no more interest in exposing the fraud of Said’s life any more than they do Muhammad Ali’s or Obama’s.
Among Said’s friends and allies on the American-hating, Arafat-loving left were none other than Khalid al-Mansour and – drum roll, please – William Ayers.
Radical turned actor Peter Coyote suggests as much in his diary written for the 1996 Democratic National Convention.
“After that,” Coyote writes, “I inform Martha that I’m dragging her to the apartment of old friends, ex-Weathermen, Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, hosting a party for Senator Leahy. Perhaps Edward Said will be there.”
When Ayers published his memoir, “Fugitive Days,” in 2001 – the book that made “unrepentant” part of our everyday vocabulary – Said was happy to provide a blurb.
“For anyone who cares about the sorry mess we are in,” Said wrote, “this book is essential, indeed necessary reading.”
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