Psst, Obama is a Weakling — Pass it on.
News last night from The NY Times, via Riverdaughter, that Obama has run home to Big Sister to plead with her to fight his battle with Saracuda Palin for him. Oh, the poor Precious! Can’t face a tough woman on his own, huh? What’s the matter Barack? Just tell Saracuda that she’s likable enough. Call her a Sweetie and tell the media that she gets moody and bitchy periodically when she’s feeling down. That oughtta work. Or send Sebelius — woo-hoo! I’m sure she can take on Palin and come out of the encounter victorious.
Or, in the words of Anglachel (”Audacity Defecit”):
“Biden is a sign of weakness because of who Obama passed over.Whether or not you would have wanted to see Hillary as VP, that choice would have been a measure of his confidence in working with a more senior politician with her own dedicated power base. There is no corollary for McCain to choose from on the Republican side because there is no one of that stature in his party. I mean, can you think of anyone? To have selected Hillary would have fallen somewhere on the “no guts, no glory” scale between JFK offering the post to LBJ (grudgingly, wanting a rejection, knowing it was the key to victory) and Bill asking Al (unafraid of the competition, respectful of Al’s greater national statute, gambling on a powerful adminstrative team). Biden has mocked Obama in public, there is no synergy in the pairing, there is not enough contrast to produce creative counter balance, and Biden stands as repudiation of all the message of change.”
OR, BARACK — IF, AS HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE JANUARY WHEN YOU FIRST DECIDED TO SIT BACK AND ALLOW THE SEXIST ONSLAUGHT FROM YOUR CRONIES IN THE MAINSTREAM AND NEW MEDIA DO YOUR DIRTY WORK FOR YOU, YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON “LIBERAL, PROGRESSIVE” POLITICAL THINKERS LIKE THE GEMS AT THE DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND TO PUT THIS KIND OF STUFF OUT THERE FOR YOUR BENEFIT. (h/t to Taggles for finding this scum)
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First?
Where is everyone?
Okay, I came to my store today and had automatic “bad mood” radar. In this “lovely” part of the Historic Harbor in my small town you can’t strive to be better. You can’t have nice things in front of your store, kids like to pull the plants, throw papers, scratch on the windows, throw drinks on the windows, throw bottle rockets in the doors…..I am sick, sick, sick of all this $hit!
Today I will fax, email or call anyone and everyone who has ticked me off. The list is long. It starts with the following fax to the astute Governor Strickland from my home state of Ohio.
Dear Governor Strickland,
I am from the small town of Ashtabula that you visited on Monday at KSU. When I read the local Star Beacon I was appalled to read that you said that Deborah Newcomb would make a better Vice President than Governor Palin under your pictures. I’m sorry, but your wrong. Deborah Newcomb is like Barack Obama, they were both “selected” for their positions.
I had so much respect for you as our Governor but now, all I see is that the politics have consumed you and changed you.
Barack Obama is NOT for me. Deep down, you know he is NOT for you either. He’s for Barack! I know your smarter than that. What happened to country over party?
Hillary was demonized during this election and not one member of the DNC put a stop to it. I’m disgusted as are millions of others. The DNC has lost yet another faithful member and voter.
I won’t be voting for McCain as a protest vote, I’ll be voting for McCain because he is more qualified to run OUR country, as is Governor Palin.
My entire registered democratic family feels the same way. Sad day for the democrats. No unity here. Don’t preach it, it’s a lie.
ME
P.S. I want to see a real copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate. I’m not a believer!
Why I am voting for McCain/Palin….simple, *61!
Where did you get that picture!
Can someone fill me in on what *61 refers to? At first I thought it was a Roger Maris reference….?
Wow, how things are degenerating. BO and his bots must feel very threatened…
Sorry for the spam, but with a new post up, I felt I needed to. Thought some of y’all might enjoy this: Alternate Universe: Where We’d Be If Suffragettes Had Been Disaffected Clinton Supporters.
Now, back to read the new post!
Great Post! That picture just says it all, doesn’t it?
that is so, so disgusting so male chauvinist, I FEEL LIKE VOMITING, so degenerated
61* refers to BO’s birth year, some have also used it as the reference you mentioned. As you no doubt know, the * was used with marris to denote that he wasn’t the real leader in the home run count
McCain TV Ratings Beat Obama in Preliminary Numbers
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/09/mccain_tv_ratings_beat_obama_i.php
First let me say ICK! regarding the picture above and also I am not surprised and thanks for the information. The Dems have a long, long way to go to regain credibility with thinking women. They so don’t get it. And then I have to say I was solidly for Hillary, she was the best candidate, however she doesn’t own my vote or tell me who to vote for. AND I especially do not want to see a prick whipped Hillary on the campaign trail for BO and his band of beta male idiots. No one wants to see that and it is time for BO to stand up and take responsibility for his own future. Besides they will need someone to lead the party after their landslide loss and if Hillary has the stench of loss all over her then who will they go to?
Hey Annabelle!
I am appalled and sickened by that picture. My outrage is boiling, boiling, boiling by that picture.
My tongue is bleeding because I am biting it so hard to prevent myself from spewing every vile, pugnacious swear word in my vocabulary.
Oh, and thank you to Taggles for sending it along to me. I have immense admiration for you brave souls who are willing to wade through the slime of Swamp Misogyny to find images like that and share them with us. I hate, hate, hate it — but it MUST be exposed.
if HILLARY is going to go after palin, she will be committing political suicide
maybe the thugs from DNC
#750 hillary2008 From the previous post
Well it seems as if she is giving everyone an equal show. Good for her.
And for today’s header…Oh My! But I love it!
Murphy,
Who posted that picture first. Just curious………
not spam at all Annabelle — your writing is beautiful and smart and deserves as wide an audience as possible.
Please read Peacocks and Lilies:
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/alternate-universe-where-wed-be-if-suffragettes-had-been-disaffected-clinton-supporters/#comment-950
the post was submitted unfinished
…..the DNC thugs probably are sending HILLARY to the slaughterhouse, they want to kill her politically
#11
Thanks Queen81! I thought so!
Oprah taking sides? Say it ain’t so!
The queen of talk appears to be balking at inviting newly minted Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on her show, according to The Drudge Report.
Winfrey’s staff reportedly is sharply divided on booking Palin.
“Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on,” a source told Drudge. “Oprah’s Web site is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama.”
Oprah, who hosted and has campaigned with Democratic nominee Barack Obama, last year blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.
The Drudge Report also cites Oprah and her executive producer Sheri Salata as big contributors to Obama’s campaign.
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wow, and this is the woman who made her billions off women…what a woman, what trooper, oooops, what
a unracist woman this is, even racist against her own if they dont suit her agenda, now let me get this straight
she had members of the KKK on her show once, (by the way let me give her credit, she did regret it sometime
later) but come on now, where’s the respect for all
Americans, just because they dont go with your political views I mean, hey, is this fair…oh well, i guess it is, it’s her show afterall.
I will be out of the country on vacation for three wks, beginning the 26th of Sept. The only news channel I will be able to get will be CNN for the debates. I will have little computer access the first two wks, so I am hoping I can get some good info on the debates here. I will really, really miss FOX while I am gone.
so much for your caring soul Oprah, your love for all humanity, what the hell, has your show turned into a
politcal campaigne just like cnn’s daily news journalist!
Maybe the View will have her on, we shall have to wait and see I suppose.
Oprah’s Web Site Email
https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp;jsessionid=ac1106ea30d9b80575a7d6b14d6c8f02fef6bbf9e9dc.e3qNah8Kc34Ne3uLb3uRbN4ObO0?_k=_cqot5kbh_kqju
“WE HEAR YOU: OPRAH’S MAIL
It’s an all new season of The Oprah Show—tell us what’s on your mind! Do you have something you want to say to Oprah?’
Gee, and maybe she will read it a show…….
Obama camp denies Sutton story
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_camp_denies_Sutton_story.html
Oh wow, Murphy, thank you so much! I think we’re both in this Mutual Admiration Society. I have long admired your ability to organize, and the energy you bring to this cause. After meeting MamaPuma, I understand where you get it from. You and your mom remind me of me and my mom, as she is very involved in my blog and talking me through things, though she doesn’t participate like your mom does.
And I hear you on the swear words, lady! My mind is ticking with the same list, I bet.
I stopped watching oprah long, long ago. I would like to think that Sarah Palin would NOT want to go on oprah. (I hope she doesn’t) but I do hope she goes on Ellen, because Ellen was FAIR. oprah’s just FREE! As for obama - he’s now hiring WOMEN to fight for him.
He is:
http://elect2009.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/breaking-obama-sends-supporters-to-blunt-palins-impact/
****** UPDATE ON EBAY SALE OF DONC ******
UNDER TELEVISION MEMORABILIA
AS OF 11:30 AM EST:
1010 HITS…….. BID IS UP TO $10.50
QUESTIONS ASKED OF PRODUCT AND MY ANSWERES:
Q: Does this item come with a community organizer? My closets are in bad shape, and really need to be organized. Sep-05-08
A: Community organizer, closet organizer,… what’s the heck… can’t see any difference…You take your chance on if ANY organizing gets done or if they show up… sorry no guarantees from the DONC
Q: Are any of the obnoxious media included as part of this package? I don’t think the DNC has much value without their media support. Sep-05-08
A: I posted answer to this question… Air America and CNN go with the package… oh, what the heck, let’s put the whole Main Stream Media in with the package.
Q: I was told that I already bought this item by Joe Kennedy and Barack Obama ,after donating all the free oil. How can you resell this? Hugo C Sep-05-08
A: Its easy… I am flip flopping like Obama… see how bad an influence he is?
Q: Any idea what the chemical and metal value of the whole bunch may be, I’ld hate to bid and then lose more than we are losing already. Sep-05-08
A: you always take your chances on ebay!!!
Q: Could you post an MSDS sheet on this item? I’m sure that some of the contents are hazardous so if I win the bid, I want to make sure I have the right protection. Sep-05-08
A: NO MSDS… VOTE FOR THEIR CANDIDATE AND YOU DON’T GET THAT EITHER!
Q: I live in a red state, but there’s a hurricaine coming and I need sandbags. Could you compromise on the shipping and meet me half way? Sep-05-08
A: FEEL YOUR PAIN, BUT I THINK THE DONC IS WORSE THAN A HURRICANE… GOTTA GO… REALLY GO!!!
Q: This is the kind of change I don’t need, but good luck with your auction. I might be persuaded to bid if it comes with the styrofoam Greek columns from the studio lot? Sep-05-08
A: Sorry to say they were returned to Brittany Spears after being fumigated!
Q: I voted against bidding on this auction before I voted for it. But I was wondering if I should win this auction could you possibly throw in” an angry black woman who is ashamed of the United States”. It would be nice to complete the set. Sep-05-08
A: She goes with the package… attached to Barack Hussein Obama… they were married in the racist Black Theology Church and are committed to each other.
Q: my question is are you selling this item for 8.50 or are you going to pay 8.50 for someone to take it away either way its seems like a bad deal Sep-05-08
A: IT IS A BAD DEAL FOR THIS COUNTRY TOO!!!!!
Q: Is it too late to change the auction so that you pay us to take the DNC off the democratic voters hands? I’d make a nice large negative bid and then happily deliver them to an uninhabited island. Sep-05-08
A: SORRY…ALREADY HAD SOME BIDS AND EBAY DOESN’T ALLOW THAT…. DAMN I AM REALLY SORRY I DIDN’T THINK OF THAT TOO
Q: I am very interested in your product, any proof that this DNC thing works? Is there a warranty, can I return it for a full refund, what about shipping how big is it? Finally, according the most knowledgeable MSM, we’re in a recession/depression and now I am hoping a second stimulus check will be forthcoming. If the bidding goes too high can I pay (I’m good for it) once that check arrives? Sep-05-08
A: I KNOW IT DOESN’T WORK, THAT’S WHY ITS UP FOR BIDS
Q: I see you listed the ingredients, but is there any Hillary in there or did they remove that ingredient completely? I need to know because I think I have an allergy… Sep-05-08
A: They removed Hillary due to “cheating” “lying” and “sexism”.
Q: Are you absolutely sure you will not ship them? I was thinking I would bid high if I could get you to ship them out of the country for me. Sep-05-08
A: NOPE….. don’t like the package I would have to send….. you won’t like receiving them either!!!
Q: Since they will not drill can they be burned for fuel? Will there be the normal confiscatory socialist taxes applied to this sale? Sep-05-08
A: You know the answer to both questions… natural gas is what they breathe out, perhaps perhaps their hot air will solve the energy crisis!!!
Q: Does this item have a “use by” date? What is it? Sep-05-08
A: Clever question… I wonder … let me look… nope it looks like their all used up to me!!!
Q: I’m not quite sure if I want this. Can I bid “Present” for now until I figure out whether this item will be popular? Sep-05-08
A: If Barack Hussein Obama can vote present many many times in the Illinois Senate and can’t make up his mind, then any citizen can. But my question is do you want to follow his example?
Q: I heard that the DONC already sold out to lobbyists and special interest, are you sure this is the real thing? If it smells of arugula and has a picture of Greek columns on the box it is definitely a fake. BTW, I did not and will not bid on your item, it’s something that impulse buyers and youth with to much time/money on their hands might be interested in purchasing. Good luck on your auction! Sep-05-08
A: Well, whoever the buyer.. they would be the fool!!!
Q: Can this be picked up locally? I happen to be in Moscow this week and I will be in Tehran next week. Sep-05-08
A: If you have an Indonesian passport only!!!
Q: Do you take any othe currencies other than US? I understand that the DNC has some “funny money.” I just want to make sure that paypall is still okey dokey for the transaction. Sep-05-08
A: Does paypal take money from Soros? I wonder!!!
Q: Your red and black armband is on too tight and it’s cutting off the circulation to your brain. Sep-05-08
A: Naw!.. My brain is working,… what’s a red and black armband ???
Thanks Murphy for another great topic/blog intro.
I find it unbelievable that the Republicans are riding Hillary Clinton’s coattails to the White House (by choosing Palin as the VP and then by having McCain wear that orange tie the night of Palin’s speech) and now BO realizes he can only win by riding HC’s coattails. We all knew the only way the Democrats could win was if HC was on that ticket- as the presidential candidate! I still don’t understand why Sen. Clinton doesn’t say “no” to these BO people. Is it because of that friggin campaign debt? I don’t get it. What does she owe the Democrats? They didn’t do anything for her. That’s the part that most aggravates me now.
Just venting. Best, Lara08
#21 sistermoon3,
If what you say is true, Oprah needs to be called out on it. As an AA, I’m totally offended at her blatant support for the inexperienced, arrogant precious - just because he’s Black. No other reason. She quickly trashed Hillary and Bill for this idiot and viewers should boycott her show. I for one don’t watch her anyway. She’s way too smug and uppity for me. Hey, maybe that’s why she support the village idiot.
Are you kidding me???? And this is from a blog that calls itself a Dem site??? As for Oprah…..hit her where it hurts. I will never buy another one of her magazines, watch her show, or put one more penny in her pocket again if I can help it. This is what she has chosen to do with her money??? Help buy an election for a “brother”? But not a “sister”. Bad call. The term “vaginal politics” has been around for along time. But I never thought I’d live to see the day when my former party would use it as a gender-specific smear against a woman because she belonged to another party. Unbelievable. God I’m glad I’m an Independent.
******* MURPHY ********
I THINK I STARTED A BLOG ON EBAY…. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO GOT THIS GOING….. I AM HAVING SOOO MUCH FUN!!!
bmw60 can you post your link?
I am furious at the picture above.. how dare anyone demean any woman that way at this time in our history… Hillary better not go after Palin or I will totally lose my respect for her.
Here’s the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230288207913#description
HILLARY KNOWS!
I was upset to see Clinton going and stepping up for BO. However, I actually went to see her the last time she was in Florida and I believe she is doing the smart thing. I, myself, am politically obtuse but can recognize a great politician. They walk a tightrope between their values and how they are percieved. How do you succeed and not sell out?
I think Clinton is doing the right thing, trying to be loyal to the Party and keeping herself in the spotlight. She knows who we are and that nothing she can say or do will make BO ok. And then, in the back of my mind, I think, “Maybe in is not too late for 2008?”
Murphy- it feels good to laugh again!
Great thread!
You guys are great, I think I would have needed ECT by now had I not been on this blog.
As it is, I am on my way to a liver transplant, looking forward to cocktails and basking in the glow tonight guys,
Later…
21 sistermoon3 Can it be, as I have suspected, that Oprah Winfrey controls the Democratic Party? That, perhaps, BO is just someone else’s puppet?
Ewwwwwwww, that picture is so disgusting. *#^@#%*
Hi, Murphy,
I sent you an email last night. Did you get it? If not, I’ll re-send the info.
NYCgirl
I like Palin, but I could never be a Republican. I perceive them as people deficient in empathy and understanding.
Do you think I should go see Clinton in Florida and flash a PUMA sign?
We have to get this e-bay Q and A to FOX.
#40 Headclunker
YES!
re: #22 Middle age female
Yikes . . . what a bad time to feel out of touch. That would be crazy making! I hope you can find a decent source for your news . . . .
I have never heard so much garbage coming from a democrat before. Thank god for Murphy and you other Pumas.
I will NOT hold anything against Hillary this election season, since she and Bill are political prisoners.
Murphy,
I sent an e-mail re: the documentary.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26549704/
Can we somehow compile and post a list of Oprah’s sponsors? Let them know how many customers they stand to lose…
#32 bmw60
Why don’t yor forward the link (with an explanation and few examples) your “new blog” to ALL of the news media? Someone such as Greta may jump on this.
Did anyone notice the orange flags waving during Sarah Palin,s speech. Wondering if that was a stste thing or orange revolution.
Actually my friends at capital hill found it and that is where I saw it. they keep a running tally of the filth found at that site! I am ashamed to have participated there for many years with people I thought held my same values. If you saw the presidential forum right now and looked through the threads you would be disgusted.
Thanks CH! Keep up the good work!!
#40 Headclunker
I use to feel the same ways as you about repubicans but not anymore. There are heartless people in all walks of life believe me. After watching Cindy McCain last night ,this is one women who has empathy and understanding for all mankind.
Here is an interesting read - Don’t Drink The Kool-Aid Oprah, Obama, Occult
http://www.carringtonsteele.citymax.com/page/page/5663569.htm
Here is what *61 said in Excerpts from the Book”, “My job is to be so persuasive that if there’s anybody left out there who is still not sure whether they will vote, or is still not clear who they will vote for, that a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany … and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama” New Hampshire. January 7, 2008
Any questions…NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW OR EVER! With the two choices McCain/Palin wins!
Orange is not a color associated with Alaska as far as I know… good catch #48.
Oprah campaigned for and with Obama. I’m not sure why so many here are surprised by her hypocrisy. I’m not in the least.
Per ladyhawkke’s request, for those who haven’t seen yet or performed this prowl!
REPOST THRU FRIDAY I’m posting this again as I believe we have until the end of the week to try and get Obama knocked off the ballot in all 50 states. Send by fax so they are aware of what’s coming and then take to P.O. and have letters certified with a return receipt. I’ve already done Florida and so have several others. Someone is keeping a list of states but we are trying to get all 50 states represented. Feel free to use points in my letter but don’t copy it verbatim as I’ve already sent to Mukasey & Friedrich. I don’t think it has any punch if we all send the same letter. I also sent a letter to my Governor, that is up to you if you wish to do so.
For those of you who have been getting responses from your SOS or anyone asking for proof, please be sure to write back to them reminding them that they have the power of subpoena and investigation.
Attorney General,
Michael B. Mukasey YOUR STATE’S SOS
U.S. Dept. of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW YOUR STATE’S AG
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Fax: (202) 307-6777
U.S. Dept. of Justice
Criminal Division
Attn: Matthew W. Friedrich, Acting Asst. AG
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20430-0001
Fax: (202) 514-9412
Subject: Objections to Senator Obama being placed on ballot in Florida as Democratic Presidential nominee
Gentlemen:
I am a registered (YOUR STATE) (Dem-REPUB-IND) and a long time voter. According to the Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States
I respectfully request that the laws of the U.S. Constitution be enforced. Furthermore, please demand that the Democratic Presidential Nominee Senator Barrack Hussein Obama be required to provide (1) a certified copy of the vault Certificate of Birth; (2) a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance he would have had to take between the ages of 18-21 to regain his U.S. citizenship after leaving Indonesia; and (3) verify that he registered in the selective service (he would have had to do this within six (6) months of turning eighteen (18).
Before Senator Obama is named on a (YOUR STATE) state ballot for the office of President, the foregoing documents must be produced. Unless Sen. Obama produces evidence to the contrary, I believe he:
• Is not a natural-born citizen; and/or
• Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
• Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.
Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers:
• Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada?
• School records list Obama as a citizen of Indonesia. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?
• Explanation of the names he has used: Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, & Barry Dunham.
• Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama,
As Attorney Generals of the U.S. and (YOUR STATE), Secretary of State of (YOUR STATE), and(USE IF YOU SEND TO YOUR GOVERNOR) Governor of (your state) , I request that you investigate the possible forgery of a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth and require Sen. Obama to answer whether he was ever a citizen of Indonesia and further require him to submit all documentation that led up to him being a U.S. citizen. Senator Obama has refused and/or failed to provide proof of his birth as a natural born U.S. citizen. A falsified birth certificate has circulated the Internet and has been proven by experts to be a forgery. Additionally, a lawsuit has been filed against Sen. Obama, Berg v. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083 regarding his qualifications to become President of the U.S.
As a natural citizen of the U.S. and a dedicated American patriot, I am adamant for the security of our nation that we choose our elected officials as required in our federal and state constitutions and laws.
Please require that Senator Obama provide absolute proof that he is a natural born citizen of the U.S. before his name is placed on the (YOUR STATE) state ballot for President of the United States. Thank you.
bmw60 — you are a GENIUS! Your responses are absolutely priceless.
truly hilarious.
One word Obama is a LOSER!!!!!! NOW he wants her help, Now he finds her useful, NOW she is good for his campaign. Go ahead Cry baby, and cry me a river because I don’t care. I hope you lose.!!!!
********* EBAY UPDATE *********
1118 HITS!!! A MONSTER HAS BEEN BORN!
THANKS MURPHY…. OH HOW I APPRECIATE YOUR PRAISE… BUT COMES FROM MY HEART TOO
bmw60
Hysterical, we have to get this on Greta somehow.
Friends Like These
How the Detroit mayor’s fall hurts Obama.
By Keith Naughton | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Sep 5, 2008 | Updated: 8:15 a.m. ET Sep 5, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SODIFZXIPA
Obama/Kilpatrick Ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6_zdeJ79E&feature=related
Kilpatrick & Obama: New ad linking disgraced Detroit mayor and prez hopeful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q&feature=related
Obama Endorses Kwame Kilpatrick
Good morning from the sunny PNW:
Obama now says “the surge” is great. Another backslide when its convenient.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5984413.html
Murphy please explain for me cause I’m confused at the “nothing on top” of the ticket - doesn’t this leave us open?
Or is it just nothing on top on the democratic side? simply NObama?
bmw 60 — I mean it sincerely.
I was hoping against hope that someone would actually post the DONC on Ebay for sale, and you came to our rescue!
This is what it’s all about Folks!
That picture above is truly and deeply disturbing — but we need each other here to keep laughing and working productively in SPITE of and in the FACE of that despicable onslaught.
I would like the Pumas too stay focused.
Our goal still is Nobama. The vote must be McCain/Palin. You must use your vote where it counts, McCain/Palin.
Sign-up to work at the Polls to prevent voter fraud by wimpy and his supporters.
Sign
I can’t bear to watch Hillary praise her abuser.
I’ve been abused and it kills me.
I’m sorry.
Bruce5555555555555555555 #62, exactly right.
N.O.T. for Democrats 2008 means Nothing On TOP for the Dems this year. Pumas will support as many down ticket Dems as they can, BUT will NOT vote Dem for Prez. YOU decide what to do for the top spot, as long as it is a Protest vote and NOT for Obama.
**** 1140 hits on Ebay Sale *****
2 new questions answered:
Q: Does this auction include all state and local taxes or do I have to pay extra? Sep-05-08
A: If you take this product home you will always pay extra for everything! Especially TAXES!
Q: Sandbagging seems to be a hallmark of this item. Do you think the item could be used to protect the shoreline from the rising oceans? Or would it be as insubstantial as its policies and rhetoric and just wash away? Sep-05-08
A: I THINK I WILL SAY: YOUR SECOND QUESTION ANSWERS IT ALL… OBAMA WOULD PROBABLY LEAVE AND FLIP ON THIS ISSUE TOO… AND SINCE THE DO NOTHING CONGRESS IS “DO NOTHING” THEY WOULDN’T HELP! AS FAR AS THE REST OF THEM WELL, TOO MUCH HOT AIR TO BE MUCH HELP IN THIS CRISIS!
For those of you who favour a more liberal candidate, but refuse to vote for Obama, we have Cynthia McKinney as the Green Party candidate for president . A former Democrat (like many of us) who knows the system is broken and wants to fix things. She isn’t perfect by any means, but no one running is. Her platform is amazing, and very few people know anything about her beyond the cop slapping incident.
Voting Green sends a message that our votes count.
If you cant bring yourself to vote for McCain, but refuse to vote for Obama, then the choice is clear. This would be the year to vote Green and send a message that roars as loud as a lion.
Obama and McCain take states (like California) for granted. They assume the vote will go ‘Democrat’, so they dont focus too much attention on us. What they misunderstand is the rising number of us who will not vote Democrat or Republican this year. Why should we chose between them? Shouldn’t a liberal vote for a liberal? Who said there can only be one liberal candidate? Did the Democrats tell you that lie??
The old excuse about your vote “not counting” unless you vote Democrat/Republican is a lie. Every vote counts. At the end of the day California may vote ‘Democrat’ in 2008, but there will be a small asterisk highlighting how many of us voted Green instead.
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Cynthia supports IMPEACHMENT, Obama does not!
Cynthia will end the war and Obama will not!
Cynthia wants to end the War on Drugs, Obama will not.
Cynthia does not pander to the Christian right, Obama does.
Cynthia is not a supporter of faith based initiatives, Obama is.
Cynthia is not aligned with the big lobbies such as AIPAC, Obama is!
Cynthia supports the environment, Obama does not.
Cynthia does not support domestic spying on American citizens, Obama does!
Cynthia is open to foreign policy issues, Obama has employed the same old cronies.
Cynthia supports the rebuilding of New Orleans and bring the original residents back home, Obama has been silent on this issue.
Cynthia will support single payer, not for profit health care and Obama will not.
Cynthia is pro-choice, Obama is not sure if life begins at conception.
Cynthia will sign the Kyoto Treaty, Obama has been silent.
Cynthia wants to bring the troops home, Obama wants to send more!
Cynthia wants to subsidize higher education, Obama does not.
Cynthia takes no corporate funding and contributions, Obama does.
Cynthia wants to take the private corporations out of the criminal justice system and prisons, Obama does not.
Cynthia wants to cut the Pentagon budget and Obama wants to increase it.
Cynthia would repeal the Bush tax cuts, Obama will not.
Cynthia wants to cancel funding for the F-22 Fighter and Weapons in Space, Obama does not.
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#21 sistermoon3
Oprah’s message board does not allow anti-Obama posters so she surely would not allow Sarah on her show because she may say something that is anti-Obama - ya think?
Because there were so many anti-Obama posters on her site, they did a redo of her message board which did not allow for political discussion.
Here is what one poster said:
How strange for Oprah to endorse a candidate for the Presidency, and then to shut-down
and censor any discussion of politics on a board once known for its political discussions.
Another wrote this open letter to Oprah on her message board.
Oprah,
More than 4,000 threads and posts of mine have apparently been deleted from this site
during the recent “cleansing” that took place.
I have been a part of this message board for the better part of a year and I have never been
banned - not once - because I have always remained within the posting guidelines of this
website. So, why the removal of all of the threads and posts I have ever written?
I am so concerned that our media is becoming one not unlike that of communist and
dictator-controlled countries in the world whereby the media is controlled by political
figures and the government and I fear those who are in leadership in the media industry
are not only allowing it, but abiding by it. I am surprised that what has taken place here
has taken place.
Has this become another Barack Obama ONLY website where people cannot give their
true opinions about a political candidate that has been publicly endorsed by the website’s
owner? The Daily Kos is known for its selective banning of posters who question
anything at all about Barack Obama. It is very unfair, in my opinion, and it is the
squelching of the voices of many. Is that what is happening here? I have always thought
Oprah GAVE a voice to the voiceless.
I just heard Barack Obama speaking today about the current “New Yorker” cover
featuring he and his wife in satirical theme. He said he believed in the First Amendment
rights of those who create and publish such material. But, I question whether or not this is
just Mr. Obama’s public statement while his private statement is his encouragement of his
friends in media to control the written expression and opinion of people wishing to post
and requiring that they make ONLY positive statements about Mr. Obama without
questioning anything he says or does.
Is this the same Oprah Winfrey who has always seemingly supported freedom of speech
and expression? Is this the same Oprah Winfrey who has had many people from all
different walks of life on her show to discuss their honest feelings about race and other
social issues - to open a dialogue and to educate? Is this the Oprah who earned the respect
of so many of her fans and viewers because of her fairness and her willingness to listen to
all sides of an issue - even if she disagreed?
I am disillusioned, surprised, and offended.
Another poster said:
Even though the vast majority of people who posted in the political area were FOR
keeping the board, Oprah Winfrey apparently couldn’t stand the heat, just the way her
candidate can’t stand criticism.
So, the board was censored out in favor of salad recipes and such compelling notions as
dog diapers.
More of Oprah’s disenfranchised posters:
http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/82261?tstart=15
http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/82361?tstart=0
Thanks Murphy!
Clinton’s role:
Clinton’s camp says the message will be honed on her long-standing appeal to kitchen-table issues that helped her win 18 million votes, but not the nomination. There are no plans for Clinton to directly engage Palin, largely because the election is about the president, not vice president.
hey, you know, we might see Biden needing to attend to some personnal affairs or something, well, who knows really, he might just say, i have decided someone else can best suit Obama’s campaigne, hmmmm
wonder who that would be
#35 bmw60 - you are a genius. Your Q & A’s are hysterical. Thanks for the laughs.
MURPHY
YOU HAVE MAIL!!
NYCgirl
sistermoon3
There ARE SCANDALS ABOUT bIDEN WAITING TO BLOOM, THE HEDGE FUNDS, CLARENCE THOMAS TO NAME TWO..SORRY ABOUT CAPS, MY COMPUTER IS LOCKED.
This is a repetition of a post downstairs -
If HRC works for NOBAMA, I will bid goodbye to PUMA and DEMS forever and walk out. Sorry I thought I could do something. Sounds like the world is for sure going to be worse off and I will reconsider being outsourced to where I originate from. Here I come my equator brothers and sisters!
I reread my earleir post on the opening thread and hope that no one misinterprets the intended message. I even worried how I wrote it…all it was is that I was simply thankful to Murphy for having the guts to put that picture there.
At the same time, evoking emotions as being appalled, outraged, etc seems to become less and less of a response for me. And it because it’s personal as the never ending sexism and mysoginy that I have personally experienced throughout the years. To prevent the anger from erupting, I had to build a defense mechanism in order to try to avoid these types of emotions anymore as it began to destroy my soul. Do I give up fighting this? No. Yet, it is often so hard to keep in pace with the fight. Someone please tell me not to give up…..
I posted a link to your ebay sale in comments on my blog. I just add a link in the blogroll, since you have a new “blog.” I agree with others, genius. I loved reading those comments.
I just sent Oprah an email.. telling her I will no longer watch anything she does or purchase any of her publications. Something, I should have done months ago!! Let her know how you feel.
https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp?_k=_c7h74kkd_kr3w
BILLIE JO
YOUR # 541 ON PREVIOUS THREAD
with link to story about Rove and Brazille - and Fox- makes sense Rove is running this, because democrats have never acted this way before.
I found info yesterday : Rupert Murdoch owns Fox , BUT has sold big chunks to Prince Waleed of Saudi Arabia…
the alleged Obama Saudi contact through Khalid al Mansour/formerly black panther supporter DonWarden and rabid hater, anti-American (black or white) and anti-semetic, who now denies knowing Obama after Ken Timmerman’s story.
Since Al Mansour asked Sutton for a letter of recommendation, it’s not necessarily true that Obama had to know about it…wonder if Harvard has that letter, or that’s another record that has disappeared ?
But we know Obama is a bastion of truth, right.
How is it everybody who is dug up who knew Obama and especially in his New York days refuses to talk about him, including his drug dealing room-mate?
More on Obama from posts on Texas Darlin:
( I have to say we have a heckuva bunch of diggers and investigators online)
“lenorag said, on September 1st, 2008 at 9:33 pm
“For years, the Obamas had been regular dinner guests at the Hyde Park home of Rashid Khalidi, a Middle East scholar at the University of Chicago and an adviser to the Palestinian delegation to the 1990s peace talks. Mr. Khalidi said the talk would often turn to the Middle East, and he talked with Mr. Obama about issues like living conditions in the occupied territories. In 2000, the Khalidis held a fund-raiser for Mr. Obama during his Congressional campaign. Both Mr. Khalidi and Mr. Abunimah, of the Electronic Intifada, said Mr. Obama had spoken at the fund-raiser and had called for the United States to adopt a more “evenhanded approach” to the Palestinian-Israel conflict.”
Source: http://www.americanissuesproject.org/pdf/AIP_Know_Enough_Research.pdf
“Obama’s unabashed admiration for Malcolm X and his embrace of Black LiberationTheology it isn’t hard to imagine:
“Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me; the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. All the other stuff, the talk of blue-eyed devils and apocalypse, was incidental to that program, I decided, religious baggage that Malcolm himself seemed to have safely abandoned toward the end of his life. And yet, even as I imagined myself following Malcolm’s call, one line in the book stayed me. He spoke of a wish he’d once had, the wish that the white blood that tan through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged. I knew that, for Malcolm, that wish would never be incidental. I knew as well that traveling down the road to self-respect my own white blood would never recede into mere abstraction. I was left to wonder what else I would be severing if and when I left my mother and my grandparents at some uncharted border.” p.86
It may be coincidence but the Rev. Jerimiah Wright and Islamist Warden/Mansour both attended Howard University. Wright attended Howard about a decade after Warden. But they both can be placed at Howard University in 1969.
In Dreams of My Father, Senator Obama explained how he met Rev. Wright, whom he mentioned had been “dabbling with liquor, Islam, and black nationalism in the sixties.”
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/127619”
(sorry I dont know how to make italics on this site- but Ayers named his children after Malcolm X - Obama’s mainstream citizen, and to this day Ayers hangs with these people - who knows who Obama met at these soirees - see Al Mansour’s books and videos ” A Muslim In The White House
But , Obama had $ 42,000 debt from college loans for Harvard ?
How far and how many semesters do you think $42,000 would get you at Harvard ?
#76 LotusBoy
Can I come with you?
you can post on her blog as well…. (sorry if this is a repost.) The below thread is about Sarah Palin
http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/86611
bmw60 I went on my ebay account and now i am watching this item. This is too funny.
#81 goandersen - Sure, I want to be out of Barackistan for good!
#84 LotusBoy
I don’t want to be in this county when it crashes and burns!
The bounce is back.
“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce. Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46% ”
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
I have said repeatedly that Obama made Hillary the most important person in the party when he had to have her come to his aid.
When he loses, she will be the most important woman in the US, IF the senate puts her up as Majority Leader. Sarah will be the president of the Senate, a job that Dick Cheney held. Think about it: Two strong women in the Senate, one running things day to day, the other breaking ties on legislation………. and obama in the dustbin……………………
ok, I’m just curious. How many of you TRULY feel McCain will win in November? really….
He does have our vote…. I just hope his ratings continue to go up. Looks like they have a little. : )
Thank you Annabelle… and slyt2!!!… You make my day… wish I could stay longer, but have much to do today before my surgery on Monday… will be back later… keep the faith… fight on you all…. Obama must be defeated for this country to survive!!!
I personally am going to work for McCAin.. I am sorry, but I must…
He is patriotic, the Republican party is the one formed to free the slaves, I am sick of the MSM… and I need to do something positive to defeat this man….
Hope this does not discourage some of you, but the only way to defeat him is to do voter drives like he is… to get out the vote against him.
CBS News, Andrew Taylor (over 1 hour ago)
McCain’s selection of Palin as his running mate is drawing a mostly favorable though partisan response from the public, an ABC News poll said Friday. People also have substantial doubts about her experience, and her selection is having little impact on who they’re likely to support.
By 50 percent to 37 percent, they have a positive impression of her — less than their 54 percent to 30 percent favorable view of Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden. Eighty-five percent of Republicans, 24 percent of Democrats and 53 percent of independents have a positive opinion of Palin.
People say her choice makes them likelier to vote for the McCain ticket by a slender 25 percent to 19 percent — less than the 12-point margin by which Biden makes them likelier to support Obama. Just 42 percent say Palin has the experience necessary to serve as president
PUMAS - MURPHY
I need to get in touch with Webfoot -
If you see her would you please tell her to email me
at Kellig at starspath dot com.
Seems in 2004 there were rumors of criminal activity
concerning bambi’s citizenship and it was reported to
reported to Director Mueller - although in my mind it would have gone through the Chicago office. I’m looking
for any info or confirmation of this.
Thanks all.
LotusBoy:
“Barackistan”
That would be funny if it weren’t so scary!
Hillary will go out and stand for the democratic platform which she is dedicated to for the long run. It’s not so much Obama.
I’m just wondering when some of you PUMAS sleep. When I retired for the night at midnight some of you were blogging. When I got up this morning some of you were still here,
Henry: I heard on FOX this morning that the US magazine is losing subscribers by the thousands because of their story about Sarah. There is “some” justice in this world after all.
TRISH: Are you really gone? I certainly hope not. You are one of the most cherished PUMA. If you left because of some bloggers statements, you know that no one who is engaged in making change will be spared harsh and and unwarranted criticism.
PLEASE COME BACK.
((((((((((((((((((TRISH)))))))))))))))))
Made my day with the EBAY posting.
Go Pumas
I’m not about to change my position on Hillary. She’s out of the game now and will do what she has to do to move “her” and “our” issue forward. To sit in a corner and not be public is not Hillary’s style. She definitely can move issues ahead much better in a democratic congress and that I believe is her focus.
#86 A-Will and it’s that funny I haven’t see any polls on the tv today. The other day when BO had his bounce they were saying it reporting it , and running it across the bottom of the screen but now that it’s getting close again it’s like the BIG SECRET no one wants to tell.
#89 bmw60 make sure you come back before your surgery .
#88 rlp33 - By natural inclination they all flocked to the DNC for the answer. A lot of folks mistakenly think (D) is the answer. Hence the general feeling that the chosen one is still good. If the unthinkable happens, a ton of people are going to regret that choosing (D) in protest would be wrong again. Just my 2 cents of thought.
#98 slyt2
See #91 for a poll.
#88 rlp33 - I do believe McCain/Palin will win in November by a landslide! Even someone here that read the stars said the person with the woman on the ticket would win!
Sent email to Oprah!
We need more than 2 percent more to help McCain…a lot more.
Gotta go and do normal things - like shopping, laundry,
get ready for IKE ,
be back later….
#93 notfollowinthepiedpiper - Oh yeah, when I coined the term, I was flip flopping between laughter and horror. But it is what it is and hopefully it would never happen
Trish, come back. Webfoot and I will miss you.
NoMoreInFL
I sooooooo hope you are right.
#105 halligan - add Asian4Hillary and others.
Oprah issues a statement
Oprah to Palin: I Can Pencil You In Later
http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/05/oprah-to-palin-i-can-pencil-you-in-later/
I’m out of here for over two weeks. Going to NYC and upstate New York for a vacation. Take care PUMAs.
Out of intense frustration, I sent this letter to Gloria Allred this week:
Dear Ms. Allred:
Like most Americans, I have been impressed with your stance on civil liberties for some time. I am writing today not for any personal issue. I am writing to inquire if there is anything that can be done regarding the manner in which individual voters were denied their rightful representation in the recent Democratic nomination process.
You were involved in the process to get Hillary Clinton into nomination. And you obviously know that the votes cast by the states during both the “breakfast” roll call and the abbreviated suspended roll call were not reflective of the primary results.
She won the majority of the popular vote, but only received 341 delegate votes. How does this happen in the United States? I live in Pennsylvania. I took several days of vacation time to work for Hillary for the primary. But my vote, including the votes of every other resident of Pennsylvania, and most of the eighteen million other Clinton voters did not count. Obstacles to the nomination were imposed on Senator Clinton that
were never imposed on male candidates.
Is there nothing we can do about this? Is there a class action suit on behalf of the disenfranchised voters that can be filed? The media should be doing it’s job and exposing this hijacking of the election process. But the manner in which they attacked Hillary, and now Sarah Palin and her daughter show me they no longer possess the integrity that was formerly entrusted to the fourth estate.
I am a PUMA. But I am not writing as a member of that organization, but as a concerned and saddened American citizen.
Please, is there anything that can be done?
With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hopefully, she will respond soon.
#95 lilibet yea i am afraid that Trish is gone i was here the day she left but she didn’t say goodbye forever so maybe, i will email her later and she what she says.
#100 halligan thanks for the post but like I said why is the TV media not running it across the bottom like they did when the mighty one got his bounce it’s bias and bull crap I have had fox on all day and morning Joe this morning and I didn’t see one word on it.
Lotus
I hope everyone will be here when I get back.
If the Palin voting booth piture doesn’t turn off the female bloggers over there, then they are brain dead.
I hope the bloggers keep being as viel as they are now, so that the females get sick of being beaten up.
#28 bmw60…Great e-bayer!!! I don’t usually watch Jay Leno because of his sexist comments but he does do a segment on “things I found on e-bay”….I would send the info to him!
#40 Headclunker
Cindy McCain sure put a dent in the “lack of compassion” impression of republicans. No one’s asking pumas to “become republicans”. But for a LOT of us, voting McCain is the only effective way to destroy the BO machine.
Here’s and analogy I posted downstairs, for what it’s worth:
~~~~~~~~~~~repost~~~~~~~~~~
My thoughts on not being able to cast a protest vote based on economy/reproductive rights/party platforms etc:
All those things are VERY important, and must be addressed. HOWEVER, this election is not your average election. If I could use a health care analogy (since that’s my chosen profession), Democracy in this country is on life support right now. The economy and women’s rights and all those other issues are simply being used as tools to control and manipulate the voting public. Voting or not voting, based on party platforms for those issues, is like spending time and energy trying to cure a skin rash on a dying patient who is fighting for the next breath. You must get the patient’s vital organs and life support systems functioning again before you worry about the peripheral details. IMHO this is a fight for the survival of democracy. Not a fight for party platforms.
Henry kissenger interview on McCain, Obama, Palin
very very very interesting indeed
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417404,00.html
Ha! tried to write to Noprah on her site and it gave me a 505 Error for an unspecified reason. Hit the “back” button to try it again and all of what I had typed was deleted! Sounds like China or Belarus or someplace, but no… it’s just Chicago.
there is a video of if as well, it really hit home when asked about this whole national security issue.
#107 LotusBoy,
Can you tell me how come we don’t see Asian4Hillary no more? I asked about her the other day, I miss her messages!
#111 slyt2
The networks have been too busy this AM defending their coverage of Palin. The polls will probably come out later.
#67 bmw60 WhewHooo I Love It !! I have you in my watchbox.
I just called my sister in NC….she is a seller on ebay and she is loving this too….she told me to keep her posted. She is at her vacation home without a computer.
This was a great idea……Thanks!
Oh finally in 20 minutes foxnews will have New gallop poll and then they are gonna have body expert on the body lang of BO on Bill O show last night(may have Bills bod lang too)lol. I couldn’t believe that last nite he was talking to somebody after his interview and he is like BO is not a wimp he looked me right in the eye he isn’t a wimp. First Bill you are not a scary man, second so what that is polite to look at someone when they are talking to you idiot.
#91 Halligan - Gorgeous day in the Great NW!
To contrast Halligan’s #s above.
“Fifty-one percent (51%) of voters now believe that McCain made the right choice when he picked Palin to be his running mate while 32% disagree. By way of comparison, 47% said that Obama made the right choice by picking Delaware Senator Joe Biden as his running mate. Voters are evenly divided as to whether Palin or Obama has the better experience to be President. ”
We need to keep in mind that polls will change daily and change depending on the demographic polled. While pollsters try to gain a “representative sample,” I don’t think they can always acheive that.
Oops. Sorry I forgot to post where that polling quote was from. It’s from Rassmussen polls.
Women vote with their intuition and understanding, of political issue.
And because some men do not use their intuition and have little understanding of political issues they are confused about strong women and how they evaluate situation and thus they attack that which they love…….
For those men, who claim women vote with their vaginas, I would tell them that the only time their mothers’ voted incorrectly with their vaginas, was when they decided to give birth to their misogynist sons.
The only thing that loser like yourselves, snatch from life is your futile inability to effect anything positive that is why most of your rhetoric confirms your constant use of gutter and unintelligent commentary.
As for more virginal dialogue, we will proudly vote with our beautiful vagina leading the way.
Vaginas, God’s greatest gift to humankind, where developing children are protected nurtured and grown!!!
slyt2
keep us posted on the results.
The news about Hillary campaigning for Bo is really upsetting. She is being treated like a mop to clean up after the DNC mess. I will be highly disappointed in her, because as much as she has to be loyal to her party, she needs to be respectful to the women who supported her. She has gone above and beyond what any losing candidate has ever done for the nominee and I say enough already.
#119 Beca4Hillary - may be (s)he is not in town or is at work or something. SO I am keeping my fingers crossed.
#111 slyt2
info on the new polls coming on fox in a few.
#112 halligan - I wil be there
bmw60 - good luck to you on the surgery. You will be in my thoughts on Monday.
Fox news article says Oprah won’t allow Palin on her show.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417523,00.html
Oprah’s email:
https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp;jsessionid=ac11067f30d98b7f4e2c3b1d471c8261f606af6fd2f9.e3qNbNuOaNmPe34Tch0Mc38Nb310?_k=_cqn1glhl_ksbk
Empty promises?
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/adding_up_the_cost_of_obamas_agenda.html
#76 LotusBoy
If you give up now, then they have won! We must stay and fight - this is no longer about Hillary, although we love her and will ALWAYS support her, except for voting for *61.
Stay, fight —stand for something!
cjv #77,
DONT GIVE UP!!
WE NEED YOU.
Bill & Hillary have done what they could all these long years to wrestle the Dems to the center, where most of us live. They have championed us, not ‘the Party’. John McCain has fought the same fight to keep the Repubs in the center.
Now that ‘party’ is all that matters to the Dems. Does BO expect to be the President of the far left or of all of us? He’s not speaking to anyone I know.
I really hope Hillary doesn’t lower herself to participate in trashing Sarah, after all the trashing she got this year.
My prediction, Biden will begin to get ‘palpatations’ and back out, Bo will try to tap Hillary. Hil’ should say no way NoBama. Look at BoJoe, runnin’ from a girl!
IT’S NOT UP TO HILLARY TO WIN THE WHITEHOUSE FOR BO!
Did you catch the press conference with Cindy yesterday a.m? Wearing Orange, she detailed the areas that she DISAGREES with Palin & Her Husband, including abortion rights! I think it was a message to women, John has no intention of challenging Roe Vs. Wade. When did you last see a Dem (other than Geraldine) go out and detail what they disagree with in their Partys platform, their freakin’ husbands platform!?
Did you catch the statement from Sarah re her daughters pregnancy? ‘We are delighted with our daughters CHOICE to have her baby.”
G’day everyone,
BMW60.. Kudos to you for taking up the e-bay challenge. I thought it might be an ingenious tool for a fundraiser.
Maybe a toy stuffed animal donkey, as a tangible offering replete with an orange satin sash with the letters DNC “RIP” 2008..emblazoned on it in gold or black letters? (collector’s item on Antiques Road Show in 50 yrs?)
Folks, things are looking up in the Obama Birth Certificate dept. The forgery has been verified as a “forgery” and a tentative ID of the forger.
I have it here at Pumas Unleashed..
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/
Serve yourself a well deserved cocktail for the article below it and enjoy the next article…
Obama, the DNC and the Elections Committee have been successfully served! YAY- **Hi-5’s**
“Never Give Up and Never Give In; Winners Never Quit and Quitters Never Win.”
#77 cjv
YOU BETTER NOT! WE NEEEED YOU, REMEMBER….WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING.
PLEASE, STAY & FIGHT……
Hey, can I get some help rating this, my first ever, video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FxIgAChaoE
I’d appreciate it. Let me know if you like it or not. If I suk, I’ll try to get better. Heh.
slyt2
any news yet on Fox??
#134 mimi1020 - Thanks. I wil defer my position until I know better and for now I will keep going! thanks for lending me a hand
Oh, it’s work-safe, ftr. Unless political stuff is verboten at your work, of course. But there are no offensive images.
BO/MO/DONC use Hillary to Kill Pumas, the same time damage her political image - one stone kill two birds.
Have they not done enough to abuse her and Pumas??
I don’t always keep up with the blogs, so I am not sure if there has been any recent prowls to Hillary. Maybe we could all write letters expressing why she should stop campaigning for BO.
cjv…#77…I would listen to murphy…It all gets so hard sometimes. But, it will get even worse if we walk away.
Don’t quit…maybe take a break…but be back
gina613 — get out of my head woman.
a new Prowl just like the one you described is signed, sealed, and about to be delivered to your inbox.
oh, gina — i meant to add:
Messiah sinking!
New Gallup Poll for today:
BO - 48%
McCain - 44
“Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Tuesday through Thursday finds Barack Obama with a four-percentage-point lead over John McCain in the presidential preferences of registered voters, 48% to 44″
OPRAH: There was talk that Tyra Banks (top black model) is the new Oprah. Tyra is young and fierce and poised to take over the stale union of Oprah/Obama.
Sarah Palin should be on her show or Ellen - better yet.
Oprah caters to the you know who group.
McCAIN- I think he is a decent guy with a sincere message - whether you like his issues or not. I think it would be tough for him to beat Obama - if he beats O officially, he would also have to beat O’s imminent voter fraud which is inevitable.
HILLARY : I would loose a lot of respect for Hillary if she comes out attacking Palin. At some point in time, one has to be true to one’s self or at least pretend to be in the eyes of the public.
The “issues” have always been very important to me - in particular, the environment, health care and the war. If I’m going to vote for someone, I certainly want to know what they stand for.
In my view, if the earth is ruined, if we’re sick…or dead, we will hardly have the luxury of debating politically.
I’ve posted a few times regarding my grave concerns about Sarah Palin’s environmental views, and the reception here has ranged from chilly to downright nasty.
The things that concern me the most, in no particular order . . .
She wants to open ANWR (a tiny, tiny refuge in an enormous state, situated where it is to protect the ONLY birthing ground of the porcupine caribou herd)
She sued the Federal Government to have polar bears removed from the endangered species list in order to make oil and gas extraction “easier.”
She paved the way and promoted the aerial hunting of wolves, shot en masse from low-flying aircraft.
This is not propaganda, but a matter of record. If you can disprove any of this, I welcome the correction.
I’m struggling to understand why it’s been a problem to discuss this here. Could you please choose one of the following and let me know?
1) Her environmental views are not important to me
2) She probably can’t do much damage as VP
3) I more concerned with the big picture
4) Any bad reports about her are coming from the Obama camp
5) It makes it look like Bluejay is supporting BO (not true)
6) Other (please specify):
While you are deciding whether to reply or not, you can check out her environmental/energy record here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
http://www.greendaily.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palins-environmental-record-baked-alaskan/
#139…Annabelle..beautiful video !
BO doesn’t know how to attack Palin because what worked so well for him in the Democratic primary—-using the race card, and taking advantage of and not denouncing the sexism directed at HRC. The Republicans are calling him out LOUD and CLEAR on these two cowardly tactics.
I watched Oprah for many years until she built a “shrine” to herself in Africa. That wasn’t all - she made a speech calling the girls there her daughters. I am a poor mother of a wonderful daughter and no rich woman can claim her as her own. I cried for them. Oprah has changed alot over the years.
I have an idea - to reach Hillary personally… as a mischievous thing,, I would write to Hillary, all hand written on good stationery (of course) and mail them all to Ms Ferraro in C/O… I will mail a nice empty box and ask if Ms. Ferraro could box them up and bring it to Hillary. They have been friends for a long time and very loyal.
The only stipulation is to be respectful in your letters.
Anyone think it is a good idea ? At least we know that there is a good chance that the letters will reach Hillary.
Otherwise, who knows what Black Hole ?
#149 freddiebrown - and if HILLARY does come to BO’s rescue how will the GE be about you (us) and not about him (me) per BO’s speak.
31 Irlandese on 09.05.08 at 11:41 am Are you kidding me???? And this is from a blog that calls itself a Dem site??? As for Oprah…..hit her where it hurts…………………..
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I agree with your assessment of Oprah, I have boycotted her show since June and I shall never return.
She says she will not have Sarah Palin on her show until after the election. Why would Sarah needs her after the election?
Gallup Daily (runnung average of 3 days) is BO48% and McCain 44%. BO maxed at an 8% spread several days ago. This is the first day that would have any influence from Palin’s speech.
#36
Right-on, Headclunker!
#140 rlp33 of course not they know I am waiting.
Oh here it is counting Palin’s speech BO 48% and Mccain 44% not counting McCain’s speech yet.
Headclunker,
Please, DO go to Florida & flash that sign.
And send us a picture! ;D
Murphy CTKEY
Thank you.
There are days where I feel as if I can carry on without skipping a beat. I’ve been here since June 5th or within a day or two of that date. It gets so overwhelming sometimes. I’ll check the prowl, do it and maybe take the rest of the day to stay away from this ‘puter’ and to do other things in order to refresh. I can’t live anymore without this PUMA community, that is for sure.
TOPIC: E-Bay
My Top Media Choices for doing a story:
1. Comedy Central (is there ANY way to reach them?!!)
2. FOX News
3. Anderson Cooper (a dream, but I’d still like to see it)
#150 Bluejay - I always reply to your posts and you know it. As much as love the polar bears and unfortunately cannot hug them just one question - Where would we find our energy needs for tomorrow and if we have to undo all the industrialization, transportation and all that to boot please tell me where would we go from here. I know Brazil, India, China and Russia are all hungry for infrastructure power and energy just to keep going. With all said please tell what is the alternative and I will go with you. Meanwhile I see those websites as simpley lobbyists promo to get the Congress to act(or inaction to enact). Please tell me these promo materials are not used in DC?
******BREAKING NEWS!!!*****
Obama Crimes
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
Friday, 05 September 2008 12:26 administrator Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08
SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED
Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 09/04/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
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ok after commerical they are gonna have bod language expert on to tell us BO and Bills mood…..foxnews.
BMW Can’t post a question on ebay re: your item? Ebay says it is an invalid item. I agree but………..
Bluejay,
The answer to your question, and I mean this sincerely and with respect for your very valid question, is this:
Puma PAC is NOT supporting McCain/Palin.
McCain/Palin are WRONG on many, if not most, of the issues that are of grave importance to REAL Democratic VOTERS, like: health care, women’s rights, the environment, govmt spending, etc etc.
Puma PAC is Protesting the Presidential Election because we WILL NOT reward the DONC and Obama for stealing the nomination, savagely attacking a woman candidate (or letting the media dogs do it for them) using sexist weapons, and for DISENFRANCHISING millions of Democratic voters.
A vote for Obama/Biden is a stamp of APPROVAL for what they and the DONC did to OUR party this year.
Puma PAC is voting Nothing On Top for Democrats this year. That means — vote for as many down-ticket dems as you can, but leave the top spot blank on the Dem side. You can Protest the Election by leaving the Prez spot blank, voting 3rd party, writing in Hillary or another candidate, OR voting McCain/Palin. It is up to YOU.
Puma PAC’s goal is to reform the Dem Party — not to become Republicans.
Our greatest challenge is also the source of our greatest power.
IF we stay united as Democratic Voters who Protest the Election and lead to an Obama defeat, we will OWN the Dem Party on Nov 5th.
If we allow ourselves to be ensnared into thinking we should actually SUPPORT McCain/Palin, our unity and our leverage in the Dem Party will be diluted and dismissed on Nov 5th.
There IS a distinction between Voting AGAINST Obama/DONC and voting FOR McCain/Palin.
A Puma PAC vote for McCain is a PROTEST vote, not an endorsement of McCain.
Hey.. the ebay site has been taken down!!!
slyt2
i look forward to hearing the results…..
Will Bower, Founder of PUMA and Clinton-Backer, To Support McCain
Recently, the group known as “Party Unity My A—“ (PUMA) was formed by those frustrated that Hillary Clinton was not the Democratic nominee. Will Bower said that he will support McCain.
Go visit Marc, read about the continued strong-arming of any type of dissent among our former “party”.
It is appalling, one would think we live in China or Iran- where is that gag that Gloria Alred was sporting last week?
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
77 cjv on 09.05.08 at 12:18 pm I reread my earleir post on the opening thread and hope that no one misinterprets the intended message. I even worried how I wrote it…all it was is that I was simply thankful to Murphy for having the guts to put that picture there.
At the same time, evoking emotions as being appalled, outraged, etc seems to become less and less of a response for me. And it because it’s personal as the never ending sexism and mysoginy that I have personally experienced throughout the years. To prevent the anger from erupting, I had to build a defense mechanism in order to try to avoid these types of emotions anymore as it began to destroy my soul. Do I give up fighting this? No. Yet, it is often so hard to keep in pace with the fight. Someone please tell me not to give up…..
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CJV..Do not give up, remember when things get tough, the tough get going, and you are one of us tough Pumas, and we never give up on each other or our goals.
Stand Up and Fight, Keep Going, Keep Going CJV Keep Going!
******BREAKING NEWS!!!*****
Obama Crimes
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
Friday, 05 September 2008 12:26 administrator Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08
SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED
Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 09/04/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
#150 Bluejay
Last updated January 8, 2008 5:25 p.m. PT
Listing polar bears wrong move
SARAH PALIN
GUEST COLUMNIST
The entire world has seen animated holiday images of cute, cuddly, polar bears smiling and dancing — and pitching cold soft drinks on TV and movie screens.
That’s the closest most Americans will ever get to a polar bear. To steal a line from one of the commercials, it’s not “the real thing.”
It’s unfortunate, because polar bears are magnificent animals, not cartoon characters. They are worthy of our utmost efforts to conserve them and their Arctic habitat.
For Alaska, that means recognizing that although climate change is a serious concern for everyone on the planet, it is not the only issue surrounding polar bears.
To help ensure that polar bears are around for centuries, Alaska has engaged in research and worked with the federal government to protect them. This includes a ban on most hunting — only Alaska Native subsistence families can hunt polar bears — and habitat protection measures such as set-asides around known denning areas to prevent bear harassment.
We are also participating in international efforts aimed at conserving polar bears worldwide.
The state takes very seriously its job of protecting polar bears and their habitat and is well aware of the problems caused by climate change.
But we know it will take more than protecting what we have — it means learning what we don’t know, which is why state biologists are studying the health of polar bear populations and their habitat.
As a result of those efforts, polar bears are more numerous now than they were 40 years ago. Despite what some may want you to believe, the polar bear population in the southern Beaufort Sea off Alaska’s North Slope has been stable for 20 years.
Listing the bears under the Endangered Species Act is the wrong move at this time. My decision is based on a comprehensive review by state wildlife officials of scientific information from a broad range of climate, ice and polar bear experts.
There is insufficient evidence that polar bears are in danger of becoming extinct within the foreseeable future — the trigger for protection under the ESA. And there is no evidence that polar bears are being mismanaged through existing international agreements and the federal Marine Mammal Protection Act.
We’re not against protecting species under the ESA. Alaska has supported listings of other species, such as the Aleutian Canada Goose. The law worked as it should — the species was near extinction and a recovery plan resulted in goose recovery and delisting under the act.
Listing a currently healthy species such as the polar bear is based on uncertain modeling of possible effects. The listing is not justified.
The group asking for the polar bear listing recently disclosed that its goal is to force the government to either stop or severely limit any public or private action that produces, or even allows, the production of greenhouse gases. Such limits should be adopted through an open process where environmental issues are weighed against economic and social needs, and where scientists debate and present information that policymakers need to make the best decisions. But the act actually prohibits any consideration of broader issues.
Climate change is a serious issue and I urge all Americans to get involved by offering comments and suggestions to their state governments for action. But listing the polar bear as threatened is the wrong way to get to the right answer.
Sarah Palin is the 11th, and first woman, governor of Alaska.
mimi..thats great news!!
thanks for bringing us up to date
#167 murphy
There is validity in the point brought up downstairs. A ballot that is completely dem. except for the top spot, can be counted as a vote for Obama. If someone just can’t vote rep. that’s understandable, but something should be marked even if it has to be a write-in, or 3rd party vote.
MURPHY
READ YOUR EMAIL.
THANKS.
NYCgirl
#175 october surprise
Your name is appropriate for this post especially! LMAO!
The DNC will never learn.
re: #167 murphy
Thank you for your reply, Murphy. I understand and agree with your strategy . . .
I only hope that those of you who are committed to carry out your protest via a vote for McCain/Palin truly understand the policies you will be voting for.
Received an email from DFA (democracy for america) just now. Here’s the first 2 paragraphs:
“On Sep 5, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Matt Blizek, Democracy for America wrote:
Supporter,
As painful as it may have been, I hope you had a chance to see John McCain and Sarah Palin lie and hurl petty insults at Barack Obama this week. They made clear they’ll stop at nothing to win, and that it’s going to take a greater grassroots effort than we’ve ever seen to change this country for the better.
The job is too big for any one to tackle alone. That’s why we’re working together. Next week, DFA Night School teaches the tools for mobilizing your social networks into action.. . .”
AND, my response:
“Stop at nothing to win?
Seems to me they’re just telling the truth about the current failed leadership of the DNC and the glaring inadequacies of Obama as a presidential nominee.
Good luck with your grass roots effort. You do know that the growing season for grass is over in most parts of the country right? I haven’t had to mow the lawn for two weeks now.
Just saying,
Darragh Murphy.”
#150 Bluejay
Oops, forgot the link . Here it is:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/346563_bears09.html
Hillary is in a complicated position.
If she goes against Palin too much, she could be perceived as a woman who doesn’t want any other woman to get ahead. It’s tough.
Actually, I have to say, after everything I learned about Obama, how he is not only an obnoxious person, but a total fraud–absolutely corrupt and dangerous, I am wondering why the Clinton’s would show much more support.
Hillary Clinton’s opposition research team must have found out a lot about Obama, maybe more than I can imagine.
Hillary knows who Obama is, and if she continues to fight for his candidacy (which she will), I swear on my life, my opinion will change about her, and I will actually judge her for it. The question in my mind will be: Does she REALLY love America or NOT?? Because I know she must know about him.
Unless, maybe she has some bigger plan, and she knows Obama will lose, and her campaigning for him now wins over the right people for her 2012 run…we will see.
I will be watching Hillary closely. I am telling you, she has to be careful. She can actually ruin…RUIN her political future if she does this wrong.
Hillary has a blue collar base and a rural America voting bloc of dems…but I think many of these people will shift to McCain/ Palin. Hillary could alienate her own voters because for so many people: Obama is NOT an option, and she needs to watch out!
Obama doesn’t give a crap if she pisses off her base or loses them forever. Hillary better think ahead.
bluejay..
a protest vote is just that a protest vote..it doesn’t mean you support all the policies of the GOP…
Mimi1020 - My heart skipped a beat!
Everhopeful.
I tried to go on E-Bay and it’s not there anymore. Can someone check it out for me?
PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT
PUMAs you have mail
Get to work. You are going to like this prowl, especially if you have ever been required as a woman to make some man’s life easier at your expense.
For that matter every man can make the same claim.
Not surprising since PUMAs are inclusive and abhore sexism.
Not for goodness sake get to work, and come back here and brag.
Mama
#169 rlp33 oh gag , it was man love fest, BO was insulted at one point, by the look he gave. then at another by putting his hand out he was trying to win BIll over he wants to get him to come to his side. BO wants Bill to like him and want him as president i guess. So basically he isn’t scared of Bill, he has the HOW DARE YOU LOOK and then wants Bill bad at the end.
ok — nyc girl — reading now . . .
nycGirl — you have mail.
PLEASE! When you re-register, don’t register (R)!
It makes no sense! We are now ‘outsiders’, belonging to neither! We can place a protest vote for McCain /Palin without becomming (R’s). It’s not our intention to swell the (R) ranks, but to diminish the corrupt (D) ranks!
I re-registered Independent on the day Murphy opened this site. Independents are forecasted to outnumber each traditional party in the next 10 years. It’s the middle that will have the most powerful effect this year.
Please, Please, we need to have the effect of rejecting BOTH parties fringes.
Prowl Completed…. will also call after work!
It’s been a while, man that feels gooooood!!!!!
ROOOOOAAAARRRRR!!!!!
PM..i agree we must reject both parties fringes..
mccain and palin did that that’s why they are called “mavericks” so i guess we could do the same and become “mavericks”
#182 kat in your hat
Yup! It’s already happening with so many that I talk to.
IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST 2 TIMES. THIS IS GOOD NEWS GUYS!
******BREAKING NEWS!!!*****
Obama Crimes
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
Friday, 05 September 2008 12:26 administrator Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08
SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED
Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 09/04/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
mimi1020 — that was FAST!
You could probably just outrun the hurricane!
Oprah is a racist in the worst way. I have seen her work for years. She is totally for black power….anyway she can get it.
#190 Pm
If enough people register independent, it could automatically build the viable 3rd party. The Independent American party.
murphy.. I am not receiving prowls.
Thank you.. nativegirl
kat dont assume automatically that hillary would win in 2012..
unless you have a crystal ball or are nostradamus
Drill baby drill -
Read all about ANWR so you are informed..
http://www.anwr.org/
#195 murphy
I’m counting on it!!!
Anyways, Ike’s got NOTHING over Pumas!
#40 Headclunker on 09.05.08 at 11:49 am
I like Palin, but I could never be a Republican. I perceive them as people deficient in empathy and understanding.
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i’m sure this means something entirely different from what i’m actually reading, but it seems a little demeaning…as a Repub myself.
i dont want to vote for McCain but i will do so JUST so i can help keep *61 out of the white house.
i know several Repubs who are still in pain over what happened to Hillary and they don’t lack empathy.
i’m not angry over the above comment but it’s not one i enjoyed reading. I’m a Repub with feelings
Pm is right. The only way for people like me (centrist) to get what I want is to be independent. “Changed” dem party has left me to feel alienated since they became the MoveOn party. I’m also a traditional patriot, like McCain and like Hillary. I don’t go for this screw America, let’s start over and change it BS.
If more people in the nation became independents, BOTH parties would fight for them. They would have to come to the middle just for votes.
I’m still a dem, but will change to independent.
#196 hillaryistheone on 09.05.08 at 1:41 pm
Oprah is a racist in the worst way. I have seen her work for years. She is totally for black power….anyway she can get it
***** Is there any doubt to the above statement ? She and Obama are fervent in their quest for their race at whatever cost *****
Prowl done! After the numbers I added “I don’t think the ‘math’ adds up to a victory in November.” I crack myself up. LOL!!!
Okay I’m a geeky CPA, whaddya want.
Hey, PUMAs. I have been trying to figure out where the picture came from. Murphy, from what part of the Swamp of Misogyny did it gurgle up from the slime?
#202 ClintonRules
ditto
nativegirl
The prowl is good. But there needs to be a second one.
Addressed to Hillary.
mimi1020
We have much more here at PUMA UNLEASED.. and have been in contact with Mr Berg by telehone and e-mail.
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/
and adding to Berg’s progress proof of the falsification and promotion of the KOS version of Obama’s certificate of birth!
We’re on it!
mimi1020
We have much more here at PUMA UNLEASHED.. and have been in contact with Mr Berg by telehone and e-mail.
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/
and adding to Berg’s progress proof of the falsification and promotion of the KOS version of Obama’s certificate of birth!
We’re on it!
Can someone help me find the item on E-Bay. What happened?
#209 PumaDuma
woohoo
did not know this! will check you page!
thanks!
To those who even think that Hillary’s chances are as good in 2012 - I hate to burst your bubble.
The same Hillary bashing crowd will still be there except they will now, in addition, call her OLD, GREY AND FEEBLE - perhaps even senile.
I am a realist..which is to say, that i also think Obama stands a very good chance of winning.
I did the prowl and I feel a whole lot better! I received a phone call last night asking who I would vote for if the election was on Friday and I said John McCain and I also said I would like to add that I am a long time Democrat and she said Oh really ? well how sure are you that you will vote for him in November I said 100% Absolutely sure! She said thank you for your time.
#200 freddiebrown
That is NOT an Arctic National Wildlife Refuge website. That is an oil industry website. If you actually want to read about the Refuge, look at the website of the people who actually LIVE in it:
http://www.gwichinsteeringcommittee.org/
i guess this will be my last post for the day, but just one last thought…I have thought for sometime there is something really wrong when many muslim nations seem to be so glad and happy that Obama will be our next President. NOw, I dont know about anyone else, but I find that disturbing…the question is WHY? Seriously, why?
I wanna be a Maverick!!!
I sent my email….
I did my Puma Prowl, but I put McCain/Palin ‘08 at the end because that’s who I am voting for.
Who’s hungry for mooseburgers?
84 LotusBoy ~~~ It sounds as if you assume that BO is going to win. I have no doubt that he will not. We are not about to just hand our country over to a terrorist.
Today, my heart is filled with a sadness, at the same time my mind feels relief. I have been absolutely thrilled to be a part of PUMA since it began. I felt like I was actually DOING something when I donated, and participated in the prowls. I absolutely adored Murphy~~~to me, she was a female version of Crazy Horse, who was not only a fierce warrior, but was also a very revered holy man among my people.
Today, I am sad because, while I still revere Tashunka Witko, I no longer feel that way toward Murphy.
There does exist a tight little clique on this blog. We are free to express our opinions, only with their approval. Yesterday, I made a very simple, innocent statement of fact~~~that the population of the US is only 13% black so that even though some have made this race about ‘race’ it’s not a huge threat.
Because anitfish and Billi-jo didn’t understand, I was the victim of harsh and unwarranted critcism. Subsequently, because U refused to bow to the powers that be (the clique) I was sent to the dungeon. The first time that happened to me, I was wrong. And I made a heartfelt public apology to the PUMA blog.
But this time, my only crime was to disagree with a couple of the ‘favored ones’ and I refuse to bow to their bigotry.
So, this morning I sent a fax to cancel my request to be a Poll Watcher. I also sent faxes to the Washington State Attorney General, the Washington State Secretary of State, and to the US Department of Justice cancelling the prowl over Obama’s birth certificate. I said that I am no longer a member of the group known as PUMA. In my community, my name is well-known and I am regarded as an informed, empathetic, compassionate woman, with a passion for passion that sometimes boils over at injustices. I no longer want my name associated with PUMA. (I might feel differently if women like ladyhawkke and kellig formed a splinter action group)
I join the growing number of others that have left….asian4hillary,Trish,KendalBlue,Sheila7, etc. etc.
I don’t know about the others, but I will now donate my time, money and energy to the MCCain campaign. I have reams of blogs and PUMA information which the McCain campaign might find useful.
All the negativity and backbiting and whinning on this blog is setting back the very progress and equality women everywhere so deeply desire and deserve.
I’m not the only one who has noticed the obvious maturity expressed by the McCain campaign when compared to whatever is left of the so-called Democrat Party.
So to my friends here, as well as everyone else, I offer this prayer of my people:
“O Great Spirit, whose voice I hear in the winds,
and whose breath gives life to all the world, hear me.
I come before you, one of your many children.
I am small and weak.
I need your strength and wisdom.
Let me walk in beauty and make my eyes
ever behold the red and purple sunset.
Make my hands respect the things you have made,
my ears sharp to hear your voice.
Make me wise, so that I may know the things you
have taught my people, the lesson you have
hidden in every leaf and rock.
I seek strength, not to be superior to my brothers,
but to be able to fight my greatest enemy–myself.
Make me ever ready to come to you with clean hands
and straight eyes, so when life fades as a fading sunset,
my spirit will come to you without shame.
May the Creator bless you all with all good things in life.
Now my heart is free. Good bye for now~~~
MountainSong
I wrote to Oprah.
It is obvious that Nobama was raised by his mother without a strong male figure in his life. When something goes wrong call on a strong woman. So why did he not choose Hillary for his VP?
IMHO..please consider this pumas…by advocating not voting “top of the ticket”…
you help obama win..
by telling PUMAs not to vote top of the ticket you could be drawing enough votes away from mccain/palin to give obama enough of a margin to win..in other words ..
telling people not to “vote top of the ticket” is like telling citizens..”you can defend your home,just don’t have any guns in your house”
170 october surprise
Will Bower, Founder of PUMA* and Clinton-Backer, To Support McCain
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*party unity, my ass
Will has always stated publically that he would vote for McCain if Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton wasn’t the Democratic nominee.
#213: freddiebrown
Oh, I also think Obama stands a good chance of “winning.” BUT only because I know he will cheat cheat cheat to win.
It’s not gonna happen again.
The way to beat Obama is not just with votes. I’m also a realist, freddiebrown…Obama needs to be fully exposed on a grand scale!
by telling PUMAs not to vote top of the ticket
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I think it’s clear that we’re being asked not to vote for the DEMOCRATIC top of the ticket = NOBAMA, and not, as some have interpreted it, to leave the top blank.
I have been a lifelong independent and changed to dem in Dec 07 so that I could vote in primary. But left the dems in April 08 because of the way H was treated. I wrote a few letters to Dean, ect. But when I went to read what the independents stood for I realized I wasn’t an independent at all so I switched to the green party. Check beliefs of Independent party especially prolife position.
re#225
will bower is smart and right!
Dearest mimi1020,and pumaduma,
sent copy of info about lawsuit to my local paper.
ALSO PROWL COMPLETED WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Feels good to be back prowling again,huh pumas???
Sent email to Obaby……….Tried to phone, wouldn’t go through…had the nerve to cut me off…..trust me, I will try again!
LOLOLOL im back, CNN has a ticker post about Oprah
OH CRAP, I forgot city and state, did name but forgot that.. crap sorry. Anyways first part is done , second when hubby gets home with cellphone. Sorry Murphy about city and state I will go in corner now
#167 Murphy
With all due respect , I do worry that leaving the choice of President blank on the ballots in November will leave us so open to the possibility of someone else filling it in for us, particularly if all the down-ticket choices are Democrat. We know what occurred in the primaries - it just seems too dangerous.
On another point, is it technically possible to keep the numbers of the posts the same when you delete one, instead of allowing them to be re-numbered? It is so frustrating for those of us West coasters who arrive when the blog is racing along already to follow the discussion or find information. It may not be possible but if it is, please consider doing that. Thanks
Wake up PUMAs - we are back in business - you have mail
Get to work. You are going to like this prowl so go and do it!
Now for goodness sake get to work, and come back here and brag.
Mama
#221 Alice1943 - I do not want BO ever but I am just resonating a false world in Barackistan. Just another viewpoint to make more aware of what one should do to do the right thing come D-Day or shall I say R-DAY for a change. And thanks for your blessings. I have always said I am an eternal optimist so I hope for the best (read NOBO)
little off the subject here, but I just found this fascinatiing, as Condi Rice makes first American visit by any US official today since 1953, look whose guarding their leader!!!!!!!!!
Gadhafi is expected to be surrounded by an all-female bodyguard corps.
I’m a center of the road, christian, gun owning (ex) democrat and Farmer.
The Dems deny I exist to their own detriment.
I will make my vote count for ME, not a political party. Hey! I AM a maverick!
I will hold my nose, watch Fox news and vote McCain/Pallin.
Did my prowl and now must go harvest beans and corn to feed my community. Visit a Farmers Market tomorrow people! Support local businesses and SUPPORT EACH OTHER!
repost from earlier-
66 murphy on 09.05.08 at 12:11 pm
Bruce5555555555555555555 #62, exactly right.
N.O.T. for Democrats 2008 means Nothing On TOP for the Dems this year. Pumas will support as many down ticket Dems as they can, BUT will NOT vote Dem for Prez. YOU decide what to do for the top spot, as long as it is a Protest vote and NOT for Obama.
RememberNovember #234 — I hear you and cant fault your logic. Voting McCain/Palin is an absolutely effective, perhaps the MOST effective, way to stop Obama.
Prowl done on first email part, still trying on second part.
#223 Pookie
Because, the repubs helped him push her out.
I am getting invalid email trying to send prowl please help
NO LEAVING BLANKS….not this year, not any year.
BEST protest vote: McCain Palin (2X whammy saying to the DEMOCRAZED leadership NO to BO and YES TO HILLARY 2012)..
Or fill in with green party or whatever other choice is there…
Blank is BAD for Hillary
Prowled !!
if you really buy into the repubs helped push hillary out, you must have forgotten May 31, 2008, it was all over the news and media, never forget that day…ladies and gentlemen, never forget that dayl
Whatever you give a woman, she’s going to multiply.
If you give her sperm, she’ll give you a baby.
If you give her a house, she’ll give you a home.
If you give her groceries, she’ll give you a meal.
If you give her a smile, she’ll give you her heart.
She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her.
So - if you give her any crap, you will receive a ton of shit.
By Pumas gotta go Batten down the hatches and get ready for the hurricane,its expected to come as far inland as Greensboro NC. The last time we got blasted from a hurricane was ole HUGO,saw my neighbors swimming pool flying through the air.Scarry stuff.
SEE Ya’LL later Wish us Carolinians North/South good luck.
jennifor..
precisely!!!
thats what will bowers said the other day on the bill bennett radio show and he made alot of sense to me..
#242 goandersen
I think a McCain/Palin vote will help bring about some house cleaning in the repub party as well. Look at Palin’s record.
#216 sistermoon3 why is this your last post of the day are you leaving for good or just because you have somewhere to go? For the rest of your post, I do not have a clue how any of his shady “friends” and there are a lot does not raise eyebrows to every single American out here so i can only ask “WHY TOO” .
Weird, Prowl done through gmail, wouldn’t go thru yahoo? Anyway PROWL DONE!
jenni #245 — “democrazed” !!! I love it.
#748 Noblecascade
I started responding to their emails with “Unsubscribe me or I will sue you” in the Subject line and ‘Nobama” in the body of the email. They finally stopped sending them. Or maybe it’s because I blocked the Democratic Party email address. Either way, it seems to have worked. I haven’t gotten one from anyone connected with the party or the campaign for over a week now.
oh i wouldnt leave the puma blogging for anything, im going out of town to see 2 of my sons play a concert tonight, maybe they will play barracuda, LOLOL just kidding, but they do play rock, one is is Sevendust in case any of you might have heard of them:)
Ok
The emails are clicking away, now I feel better
Mama
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
…read it and weep president obama..
Breaking up good-old-boy networks is something that women need to do. This came out today:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122057381593001741.html?mod=todays_columnists
“How Palin Beat Alaska’s Establishment”
Women are good at cleaning house!
Hillary/Palin 2008
#245 jenniforhillary
The other reason I am strongly in favor of this form of protest vote is that a McCain win would not only deny BO boy the throne, it would also put two pit bulls (one with lipstick, and one without) in a position to clean up the corruption that has very nearly cost us our freedom.
prowl done!
As for the caption under the voting booth photo above (’You vote with your vagina’), I’d reply: ‘You do everything else with your dick.’
Prowl done.
#258 notfollowinthepiedpiper
ditto! My sentiments exactly!
FLIER MATERIAL FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT
(It’s a bit long. Couldn’t get it to fit on one page. Will print it front and back for my fliers)
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SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER IN THIS HISTORIC ELECTION YEAR
As we head toward the general election, I am reaching out to members of my community regarding profound issues of concern that I hope you will take a moment to consider. I am not a Republican. I am a Democrat and have been one my entire life. In fact, I’m a rather left-leaning Democrat. However, this year history has unfolded in an extraordinary way, and that includes some things you may not be aware of. Note that all of what is stated here is established and corroborated and not the product of internet rumor or any other sort of distortion of the facts.
After winning his U.S. Senate seat, Obama stated that he would not run for President, citing lack of experience and the need to begin running the moment he had just become a Senator. What has changed between when he made that comment in 2004 and now?
Obama has scant experience for this most awesome job of President of the United States. Since when do we elect neophytes for President?
Obama has never remained in any single job or position for any length of time to actually make a contribution. Where do his convictions lie: With those he is slated to serve, or with his own personal ambitions?
Obama has no history of being a so-called “uniter”. Quite the opposite. His voting record as a state senator and in Congress reveals a pattern of digging in or not voting. He does not find common ground in order to gain consensus, unify, and get legislation passed. With no track record of doing so, how does he plan to unite this great country and a highly polarized Washington?
Obama has not sponsored a single piece of legislation during his term as a U.S. Senator. Why should this man be President if he hasn’t even made a mark as a U.S. Senator?
Obama has changed his position on numerous serious issues, including abortion, gun control, Iraq troop withdrawal, campaign financing, and FISA. In addition, this candidate of change has embraced Bush’s faith based initiatives, promising to expand them. Why should anyone trust what he says if he changes his mind so often on substantive issues?
In addition, Obama was the only Senator to vote in favor of a bill that would allow infanticide by allowing babies born alive due to failed abortions to be left to die. He was the only Senator who voted this way, and he did so three times (state and federal votes combined). Even passionately pro-choice Senators voted “no” on this bill. I am pro-choice, but wonder why would anyone in their right mind vote to allow such barbaric behavior as allowing babies born alive to be left to die?
Obama’s word cannot be trust. In addition to his flip-flopping on issues, he has a proven propensity to go back on his word or blatantly lie. In 1996 he went back on his word to Alice Palmer. In 2004 he went back on his word by telling the press and the American people he would not run for President, and then proceeded to run for President. If someone proves through countless actions that they are willing to go back on their word, how can you feel you can trust them regarding anything they say, particularly since there is so little evidence of achievement that all we have to go on is words?
Obama also has a history of affiliating himself with questionable characters, including convicted felons and terrorists. Once exposed, he either claims innocence or minimizes these relationships. He publicly stated that he was unaware of Wright making the kinds of comments and rants that we all came to be aware of, despite having sat in the pews of his church for 20 years and embracing Wright as a mentor and father figure. In addition, early on in the campaign when trying to prove to the American public that he was Christian (a point which is neither here nor there), he stated his weekly devotion to attend Sunday church services. Once Wright became a controversial issue for his campaign, Obama started to back peddle, stating that once his children were born it was hard to go to church regularly. So which is it? Every week or rarely? And what do you make of someone who takes on as a mentor and father figure the leader of a church that elevates the likes of Farrakhan to great heights by honoring him with a Lifetime Achievement Award? Surely there are countless great men and women in the black community worthy of such an honor. Is not the selection of Farrakhan a telling and important piece of information?
When asked about his relationship with Rashid Khalidi, Obama brushed it off as one simply based on the coincidence of them both teaching at Columbia and having children who attend the same school, when in truth, he and Khalidi have scratched each others backs in mutually beneficial ways over the years. How can you trust someone who consciously minimizes a relationship with a former terrorist who was affiliated with the PLO and what do you make of someone having such associations?
Obama claimed innocence about Tony Rezko while receiving large sums of money to support his campaigns and became entangled with him personally over his home and land purchase. Why should you put stock in Obama’s claims to care about Americans when he ignored so many impoverished families living in sub-standard housing in his Illinois congressional district and, to add insult to injury, was in the pocket of the slumlord of those building?
Obama has a history of developing relationships with individuals who express through their words and actions profoundly anti-American sentiments, including Bill Ayers, a terrorist who built bombs that killed fellow Americans and who, to this day, remains unrepentant. Why should anyone have a shot at becoming the President who has someone like Bill Ayers as part of their history?
Obama routinely expresses a confused understanding of history, including his own personal history, noting that he is the product of the march on Selma, despite the fact that he was born four years prior to the march. Why would you accept a candidate who is so willing to distort facts and manipulate public perception in this way?
Obama appears to feel he is above the fray and undeserving of scrutiny, despite applying for the job of the highest office in the country. He routinely scolds the press when they asked him a question or scolds his opponent if he feels at all attacked. How in the world will this man handle the very real and dangerous threats that exist in the world if he appears to lack the fortitude to withstand media scrutiny and attacks made by his opponent in the campaign?
Obama is willing to sit down with leaders of enemy nations. In these dangerous times, can we afford to have an inexperienced President with no international experience and with a stated willingness to sit down with our enemies without precondition? Do you grasp the implications of what could happen with just one misstep, one misjudgment, one naïve, boneheaded choice?
There is mounting evidence of enormous voter fraud and intimidation in all caucus states during the primaries. The evidence shows that this behavior worked in favor of Obama’s campaign. For those interested in learning about this, I invite you to visit http://clintondems.com/ to see video taped testimony (the 3rd video is particularly) and http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/ for written documentary and summary broken down by state. Is it acceptable to you that we elect to the office of President of the United States a man who quite likely stole the election within his own, co-opting party?
Prowled! Felt good. I am about to puke at the idea that Hillary would do the dirty work on Palin. Please let’s have a prowl letter to Hill begging her not to do it.
Did my prowl. Getting better at copy/paste.
Waiting for Hanna here.
have you noticed how the obama campaign has become even more nastier,mean and snotty lately?
I emailed the Prowl, but, as I recall, I was derided a few days ago, by a fellow Puma, for suggesting Hillary Clinton would do such a thing.
#254 sistermoon3 you are f-ing kidding me, which one is your son….
#224 october surprise - While I respect and agree with your view that voting for McCain may be the most effective way to ensure Obama does not become the next POTUS, we have to remember that we are all democrats and are having a VERY DIFFICULT TIME voting republican. Personally, I am more to the center than most dems economically, but that does not make it easier to vote repub.
As a post in the previous thread reminded us, there are other options for people who live in solidly red states, which is to either leave it blank, or as in #68 above, vote for a “green party” candidate.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for Senate Majority Leader
2009
http://tdg.typepad.com/hrcsenatemajorleader09/
re#268
it’s my opinion that if you dont vote for mccain/palin to keep obama from seizing control of the highest office in the land…
believe me..you will have a “very difficult time” times a thousand..
Murphy…Will you be attending the Hillary benefit September 19th?
Hillary Clinton has no choice, or has made her choice, to do Nobama’s bidding and allow him to continue to humiliate her. Nothing we do is going to change that … IMHO.
******** BOO HOO *********
WENT OUT AND GOT MY NAILS DONE AND GUESS WHAT?
MY EBAY LISTING WAS CLOSED…LOL
HAD 1138 HITS THOUGH!~!!!! ON TO NEXT PROWL!
Prowled. Tried to call and got a pre-recorded message that all the volunteers were busy with others - hopefully the others were PUMAs!
Sorry gang but PUMAs aren’t going away quietly - we’re not sitting down, we’re not getting in line - we have somewhere else to go - anywhere but Obama/Biden 08!
Everyone should do what they are comfortable with doing - vote McCain/Palin, write in Hillary, leave it blank - just don’t vote *61* - see if they can win without us unimportant bloc.
First executive decision - no Hillary - very stupid - who knows what other stupid decisions this fool has up his sleeve - whatever anyone thinks about McCain (hey he’s never been my favorite) at least I can sleep at night knowing someone who knows what is going on in the 50 states and world will be in the White House.
268 A-Will
i don’t suggest leaving it blank. as had been stated previously, forgive me for not remembering who, that blank leaves the ballot open for fraud. i like your idea of “other ” candidate in solidly red states.
i’m hesitant to say anything, because I guess, I don’t know what to say or think at this moment.
I’ve been back from Denver since tuesday (stayed wth family over holiday) and have been here everyday to read and listen to what everyone is thinking .
Murphy, or DWP’s I have pictures from Denver and will be happy to send them to you to do what you want with them.
NYCgirl email me cause i have some for you also.
I don’t have a clear thought and haven’t since I left the convention…i guess cuz, I was so angry and fed up with how the DNC treats it’s most valuable and consistant base.
We represent 51% of the DNC…and we have been treated like children who need to be told how to act and when t speak, and when to shut the fuck up!!!I want this to end and I want my vote to count and my voice heard!!!
Yes Mama…it’s time to wake up..and get back to work!!
re#272
at what point does a human being resist further humiliation??
like they say..
“the road to hell is paved with good intentions”
that road being supporting obama
#249 notfollowinthepiedpiper
Having been a Democrat for 41 years and now an Independent since June 3rd. I will not vote for the Zero or a Republican. Palin is way to far to the right for me. Politicians say what people want to hear. End of story.
I’m voting for Nader
#272 heysandy I agree with you, however I am dissapointed, Hillary left all women hanging out to dry and now is she going to do to Sara what the DNC and media did to her? This will make it hard for her in 2012, and Babarf the winnie arm dickless wonder is going to use 3 women to counter attack Sarah
Rush Limbaugh was on with Greta last night. He predicted that BO might have to Deep Six Biden and choose Hillary after all. Of course, Biden would have to suddenly discover a previously unknown “health” problem.
I’m sure he strategically put this on the record to prevent it from happening. No fool, he.
It would be nice to hear even one person mention about Berg’s lawsuit against BO on any news station.
re#278
of course we all will vote our conscience but consider this..
the end of your “story” could result in the beginning of another “story”..president obama
REPEAT FROM YESTERDAY’S POST:
I would caution anyone against leaving the top blank. It leaves you open to voter fraud via ballot tampering. Fill it in somehow! If you’re not voting McCain, consider voting 3rd party. But, if you leave it blank (particularly in states that use paper ballots, someone can mess with your ballot and we all know where that leads!).
#283 october surprise
Your opinion, which you are entitled to.
re#281
that would be fascinating if theres any truth behind it..i doubt it
I don’t think we should get complacent and pat ourselves on the back just because we did some prowls and vowed to vote O on top or whatever.
I sat by and read all the pre-Denver high hopes for Hillary. I didn’t think there was any chance in hell that she would get the nomination . I donated because people wanted to go to Denver and my focus was Nobama. I didn’t for a minute think tht us PUMAs could cause any upset within the convention. My point is, I think it is difficult for McCain to win - even with Palin at his side and it will be an uphill for us PUMAs with our limited resources.
8 out of 10 people (strangers and friends alike from different parts of the country) I “polled” myself are voting for Obama. These are nice educated caucasian folks - who turned around and tried to talk me into Obamanation.
#269 goandersen - great link to the site re: HILL for Senate Majority Leader. MURPHY, CAN WE MAKE GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS A PROWL?
got to go get my little guy - promised him some Mommy time.
Y’all have a great weekend, and my prayers for all in Hanna’s path. You had a Hugo, we had an Ivan, and now we will be watching out for Ike. He seems to be headed for the Gulf.
take care!
Dragonfly Rodham Puma
#280 Pookie
I hear ya, dear! I have lost almost every once of respect for Hillary I had. It’s very disturbing, disgraceful, and just down right wrong.
What the hell have we been fighting for the past 3 months?!
I know this goes far beyond Senator Clinton, but her participation in this sham is inexcusable to me.
freddie - hey, I love ya, girl. Generate the momentum and let’s hear what we can do about it. Reality checks are good, and we need to act on them.
okay, really need to go to my buddy now.
269 goandersen
i couldn’t find a date for the letter with signatories, so my question is: did i recently hear something negative about act blue and the denver group? do i have my groups mixed up? can you clarify this for me?
re#289 heysandy
theres an old saying that has been around for a long time that’s worthy of repeating..”mama told me never to fall in love with cowboys or politicians because they’ll break your heart every time”..
MURPHY
You have mail.
#280 Pookie I feel sorry for Hillary and the other Dem woman going after Sarah, remember the other day those Rep woman had that conference bashing the media for attacking her, well if they think she is in trouble again they may come and butt heads with Hill and crew. And that last woman (the AA one) looks like she isn’t gonna take any crap..LOL.
#291 Blue Blue Gal
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/2008/09/act-blues-pro-obama-stance-de-lists.html
Blue Blue Gal - ACT BLUE dumped The Denver Group since it seems Act Blue is in the bag for BO and TDG is doing what they’re doing. More bs. It just keeps on comin’!
McCain beat all of the TV rating last night…meaning BOs and Palins
Murphy, please…I don’t like looking at the picture. The lever looks like a bloody cervical tool. I know it will painful to be in the voting booth, but now they want a piece of me? Waiting for the new thread. Sorry, but that picture is sickening. I know you wanted us to see what is being done to denigrate us, but this is nightmarish. Thanks for illuminating us, but I am anxiously awaiting a new thread.
re#297
at last!!
a possible turn of the tide ..hopefully obama will get some of his own medicine
Hope alot of Hillary supporters show up when she campaigns for BO. Hope they cheer her and BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! when she mentions his name.
RNC wants the country to allow Precious to be eligible, then they can allow Schwarzenegger to run. That may be the next RNC Ticket Palin/Schwarzenneger. This is all leading up to that….
No Leaving Blanks! BO is looking for loopholes to cheat. Do NOT TRUST THEM!!!!
Voting the other opponent, will assure no positive or by default vote goes to Obama.
Voting GOP doesn’t mean we support all their causes!
If we took BO’s cheating at the caucuses more seriously, perhaps we could have anticipated what they were going to do at the polls to HRC during the primary.
These Chicago operatives are NOT to be trusted. We should EXPECT that irregularities will go on.
Do not leave question as to the intent of your vote.
A vote FOR McCain= A vote AGAINST Obama
Excuse my persistance with this issue. This election is VERY CLOSE! For those who don’t want Obama/Biden….the only way to assure this is vote on top GOP.
sistermoon,
In Gadhafi’s world, women are expendable.
I hope you’re right about women being able to expand everything they’re given, especially the last one.
Hi all … haven’t commented for a while, Fay, Gustav, Hanna have kept us water logged in South Florida.
I want to say Thank You for everyone that participated in Denver …
I also wanted to comment on Senator Clinton being asked to pack her pistols and visit Florida to speak with Women Voters on Monday … I guess the Obama Campaign really does need our Annie Oakley … to do his dirty work … I’m sure Senator Clinton will take the HIGH ROAD when speaking in Florida, but other Calvary members have and will not.
For those of you in Hanna’s path, stay safe … all eyes right now in South Florida are on Ike.
Murphy, pssst… we still use the “H” in “Sarahcuda.”
Maybe, someone can explain this concept of voting straight party line except at the top. I vote for the best candidate regarless of party. To me, voting blindly - not actuallt learning about a candidate - is silly. neither party is absolutely right. To vote absolutely for party makes a voter irresponsible in my humble opinion.
I want good PEOPLE in office not any party ideology in particular. Look at John McCain. He’s a Republican but acts as a moderate and votes reasonably not necessarily along party lines. This so-called 90% voting record is arbitrary. It applies to specific bills not his overall voting record. Joe Lieberman, stands for the People and is going to be paying another hefty price for doing what’s right.
These, and many others, are good people. Vote for the person not the party.
that would be a hell of a legacy hillary would leave wouldn’t it..
humiliated and robbed of her presidency by a pack of criminals..
allowed herself to be used and manipulated by her foes to destroy another woman..
hell of a legacy
295 goandersen
296 Anna7000
thank you both -
i will now go and reread.
It’s friday it is 3 oclock and General Hospital is on , be back at 4 later….
Hey, Pumas.
Let’s get Hill’s debt paid. $20.00 from 1,000,000 strong will do the trick. Show the world how powerful we are!!!!!
#718 BigCatLover on 09.05.08 at 10:50 am
Sandipuma, BillieJo, freddiebrown, Prowlland, etc.
Brazille-Rove connection article. Sandipuma posted that months ago and I went and read the entire article, then sent it to Murphy. Got no response so sent it to Mama or Maryland (I forget which) and reposted it here. I also sent it to freinds. It is such a long article that most people don’t read it all the way through so there’s no reaction. Murphy, I do think mentioned it in one of her articles shortly after I sent it, but it never seems to go anywhere. You have to read the whole thing to get the full impact and most people won’t do that.
***BIG CAT *** We were up till 5 am discussing this.. This link is news to me but sometimes there are a dozen links in floating about and not everyone clicks to read links. This article is so extremely long and convoluted, I read a few pages and my head was spinning… Most people have short attention spans and as one PUMA said - if a post is longer than 5 or 6 lines, she skips it. Well…that’s a pretty narrow window if you ask me.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
Does any one believe this article ? If you are brave enough to read it.
Huff sent out their regular daily e-mails which i faithfully delete every day.
HEADLINE: McCain got higher ratings than you know who. More people tuned in for McCain than Obama. (His name is Zeus in Greek. That is why he wanted the columns.)
re#308
sly
i heard CBS is going to have a new General Hospital episode soon where a dying democratic party patient will be on his deathbed and asks the priest as a last wish to speak to senator obama,and after obama speaks to him he miraculously recovers and goes out disco dancing that same night wearing a hope and change tee shirt
#292 october surprise (I love your optimistic name!)
I never heard that saying, but it’s sure true! Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has broken my heart.
I’m going to be 50 tomorrow and held such high hopes that this year would be different … it wasn’t.
Hillary had to endure unforgivable treatment from Nobama, the ODNC, and the media, and I am extremely empathetic.
The decisions she’s made over the past several weeks, however, are ones I can’t understand or accept.
I just came in from running errands and had a message from my wonderful grandson who wanted to tell me that Oprah just declined to have Sarah Palin on her show. Sorry if this has already been posted, I didn’t have time to read thru. My message to Oprah is to have Sarah on her show is the only way she could get me watch!
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/09/despite-86-favorablility-rating-they.html
Yahoo News source: Palin Power: Fresh Face Now More Popular Than Obama, McCain.
I little dumb MichelleBO punch line stolen and modified by me - For the first time in my adult life I am proud to be a man and it is because Palin has finally become BO’s waterloo.
#92 Kelligesq
Will send an email to WEbfoot that you are looking for her.
#314 blondlady - establishes the color of green is more powerful than the color of skin but in all seriousness the color of orange is much above all the other and that is the PUMA color
I’m an ex-dem now voting Republican and consider myself Moderate or to the right of moderate. I am pro-choice and an over 40 white female/feminist. Like all of you, I am shocked and appalled by what has gone down with the DNC and although I disagree with Palin on many of her issues, I think the women of America owe it to her (and ourselves) to see that she gets elected. She is a feminist, albeit a right wing one.
This has been the problem with feminism, it has always rejected women like her and has not allowed different opinions and beliefs.
I trust her to be fair and intelligent, and hopefully open to ideas other than her own, unlike the current feminists of the Dem party. I truly resent people like Gloria Steinem going after Palin. Where was she when HRC needed her. I didn’t see her or one Godd*m “so-called Feminist” standing up for her when she was being sent to the slaughter. So don’t talk to me about how you’re the party for women and the disadvantaged and underpriveldged. BS!
Also….Karl Rove is absolutely brilliant….what an evil genius. He set up Brazile and she ate right out of his hand. He got HRC knocked out of contention by first having the Florida legislature force the DNC to move up it’s primary (with Brazile’s help). He orchestrated this whole thing. Now he can get around the rules of only being eligible to run for President of you are a natural born citizen. If we allow Obama to run and he is not a U.S. citizen, guess what? Schwarzenneger will be next. And HRC will be up against a Palin/Schwarzenegger ticket in 2012. Brilliant!
Mountainsong….
you posted upthread somewhere…what a beautiful poem. Thank you.
I know how you feel. But I wish you wouldn’t leave.
#150 bluejay…thank you for continuing to point out issues related to Palin’s environmental stance. Thank you for all your good information and clarifying facts, and clear head.
General comments: We all need to be asking lots and lots of questions about Palin and McCain, just as we do Biden and Obama. Don’t buy into the R’s so quickly…..analyze first.
I understand it is not a puma goal to vote McCain. But it seems many people here are doing that anyway. I have to say, I don’t agree with rewarding the Republicans by voting for them; they don’t deserve it. Their policies are completely contrary to mine and most old-time Democrats — Clinton Democrats, you might call us. And with Palin, the R’s are really playing women for fools here. McCain and Palin are a disaster. To vote for them would be, in my opinion, a complete waste of a vote. If you want to send a message to the Dems and the Republicans, maybe you ought to vote third party.
But rewarding an undeserving party like the R’s with your vote because you are angry with the Dems??? Where does that really get you a few years from now? It gets you more years in Iraq, a continued downspiral of the economy, more oil and less green energy, possibly a military draft, and so many other problems. Why reward these people???? They do not deserve it. And the possibility of being much worse off because of them is, IMHO, much greater with the Republicans in the White House..
With McCain you get Karl Rove and all the rest of them. You want more of that? Who do you think put up Palin to begin with?? That’s a classic Rove move.
Advisers to Mrs. Clinton said that she stood ready to help the Obama-Biden ticket, but they urged the campaign not to overestimate the impact Mrs. Clinton could have, noting that she had other commitments this fall, like campaigning and raising money for Senate candidates. Obama aides said the Clinton trip had been in the works before Ms. Palin was named the running mate.
This is an article from New York Times posted on Real Clear Policits.com website.
I was a true Hillary supporter. I was sorry that she caved into NNNobama at the RNC…..my prayer was that she would have thrown him under the bus.
IF, Hillary campaigns and speaks ante to Sarah Palin, I will NEVER support Hillary again. I expect her to speak on issues, but don’t expect her to focus on the ‘female issue’, etc.
Have you noticed that BO is having problems getting media coverage. tehehehe It is ALL about Sarah.
Poor DNC - they have to be crying in their arugula right now.
#323….I meant to print DNC.
McCain/Obama now tied in the polls.
310 freddiebrown
i only started to read a little of that link - it got confusing, but i’m thinking the gist is - who is the puppeteer, why, and how the outcome can be predetermined while making it look like the voters really were the ones who chose their new president.
to keep my enemy closer, i listen to am talk radio in my car. so i heard, too, that rush limbaugh encouraged peeps, republicans, to go and vote for obama in the primaries, so as to keep hillary off the ticket. and other dems, in the know, have also said they heard this. so, it is either a rumor gone viral, or factual.
#319 october surprise - this is the change game. And the bots are seeking intellectual property protection with the “Change” terminology. Soon they will discover they are short changed cause change is nobody’s property..
I really don’t think Hillary will talk much about Palin, I think she will go after McCain.
I think it is hilarious that poor BO is being pitted against the republican VP nominee, and not the presidential nominee.
not meaning to leave in the middle, but -husband ready to take me out on afternoon date - bbl
Can you just imagine the flurry at the BO’s camp when Palin was announced. I am sure they had all the sound bites of Romney and others ready to run against McCain.
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall.
Why Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton must be the next Senate Majority Leader
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-senator-hillary-rodham-clinton-must.html
Can someone tell me if Joe was on the news even for a minute today? for all those that do not know the person in the question and for the sake of clarity it is the DEM VP candidate.
So, the band Heart has decided to rake in profits while sending a cease and desist order to the McCain/palin camp.
“Barracuda” is now the #1 downloaded song on the internet. Legal downloads from sources such as Amazon.com are generating huge profits for Heart. Sarahcuda’s emergence has granted publicity to Heart.
I am a Heart fan; however, if they are going to profit and protest while at the smae time, then I will have to reconsider my interest in their music. This two-faced behavior is exactly why entertainers should keep out of the political scene.
Does anyone know how to contact the band Heart to ask them, politiely, to reconsider their protest, continune to make their profits and allow Sarahcuda to be her own women while promoting their song?
#332 - Obama’s camp is trying to keep Biden out of the news for a few days. He f-ed up on Monday when he told a crowd that Obama would push for prosecution of Bush when he took office. When he was confronted on the remark on Wednesday he F-ed up again by telling the reporter he stood by his statement although he was not aware that the President nor anyone in his admin had broken any laws. Since then, Biden has been largely silent to keep it from hitting the news. Apparently, O’s campaign realized that Biden’s remarks aren’t necessarily the unifying message they wanted to send.
well.. I emailed their music company and told them that I would no longer be purchasing their cd’s because of the fact that they asked the RNC to stop using that song.
umpg.newmedia@umusic.com
nativegirl
I did however, love Bidens response to Palin’s speech on Wed. Night when he stated that she failed to once mention the middle class. Oops! Wait, she is the middle class.
Real quick during a commercial MO is going on Ellen Monday. YUCK.
BMW
What was the last bid. When I last saw it, it was $132 something. Amazing and very, very funny.
Down Ticket Dems in November
http://www.dscc.org/races
Hello PUMAs
Has anyone been on the BO blog to see how his fans feel about Hillary coming to his rescue? I can’t go on there I get to angry.
Hey, don’t know if this is a PUMA but it is FUN.
http://conchapman.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/fighting-arrogant-image-obama-says-presidential-library-will-be-free/
310 freddiebrown
I printed it out…still reading…. it has put me to sleep twice..
332 LotusBoy - Yes, I saw a news clip this morning on him. He’s in Scranton (his hometown). But I didn’t listen to hear what he’s saying.
It seems that everyday I’m hearing on the news that Sarah is not pulling in the Hillary supporters. Where are the newspeople getting this information? They didn’t ask me, I’m a Hillary supporter and a Puma, and I’m voting against BO by going to McCain. My husband has to watch Katie Curic in the evening and the rest of the time we only watch Fox News (remember, I’m boycotting CNN, except I did watch Glenn Beck’s show last night on BO). McCain has had my vote since the Dem Roll Call, and Sarah has certainly sealed it.
MSM still refuses to report……………
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08
SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.com
This was sent to me by one of my neighbors. It is just FYI
Subject: Presidential Candidate Info
2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE INFO
ISSUEJOHN McCAIN BARAK OBAMA
Favors new drilling offshore US Yes No
Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it Yes No
Served in the US Armed Forces Yes No
Amount of time served in the US Senate 22 YEARS 173 DAYS
Will institute a socialized national health care plan No Yes
Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy No Yes
Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately No Yes
Supports gun ownership rights Yes No
Supports homosexual marriage No Yes
Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase No Yes
Voted against making English the official language No Yes
Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals No Yes
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!
You can verify the above at the following web sites:
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html
http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/
all the thugs at DNC are a bunch of shameless, they do not know the word HONOR not even by reference
AFTER THEY RAPE HILLARY POLITICALLY
now they are forcing her to campaing for this guy
they are being very sadist to her
I do not understand how in God´s name she is able to put up with this BS
nativegirl, thanks!
I don’t know why anyone is surprised by Oprah’s actions.
Here is a Woman who has defended the “spokesperson” for an evil cult that has ruined countless lives – Cruise.
Here is woman that promoted the very people that lied about the information that led to the invasion of Iraq.
She had these people on her show back when it was ‘popular’ to push the propaganda of those who wanted to invade.
And when someone questioned these “facts” used to push for the war…SHE would have none of it…take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoWfYL_GKRk
Not once has she ever apologized for her outrageous actions or been called to account.
Now she is trying to bully people into voting for Obama.
I have always looked upon her as a Cultist. Obama and his crew mirror a cult in so many ways. Any wonder Obama never questioned this Woman on her responsibility that led to the war? Isn’t he the one who accused Clinton of voting for the war? Give me a break…
I know there has been quite a bit of “men” blaming on this site, but Women like her and Huffington have done as much, if not more, damage to Hillary than any man has.
334 kempion,
it’s my understanding that most artists/bands don’t make a dime off the songs sold off the internet. depends on their recording contracts, but I’m told it’s the record companies that make the money and the bands never see it. that’s what my friends here in the music business tell me….and they are both in very popular rock bands with many CDs to their credit.
so although i don’t know the specifics for Heart, you might ask their record label first.
Heart is a local band in my town. The Wilsons are very cool, generous, and very aware women, and I doubt they’d ever wish to profit off of something like this situation. just sayin.
Hillary does not trash people, people trash her.
Hillary will question and debate people on the issues.
Hillary will campaign for the democratic party.
Hillary is a democrat, she will not campaign for McCain.
You will be happy to know this is my last comment on this blog.
#354 pamawo
Thank you! I am sick and tired of people bashing Hillary.
#353 firechief
I sholuld have clarified.
For many bands who are on the rise, this is true. However, well-established bands (legends even), secure a large portion of the profits from sales of their music. All income goes through the record label and then is divided up among the concerned parties.
#310 freddiebrown
I emailed the editor of the city edition and explained that her articles have such important information, but people can’t digest them. I asked her to do an article that summarizes the info or else a series of shorter articles with the same info. I also told her I don’t get what the dem party gets out of this arrangement. I’m awaiting her reply.
#347 - These are the same news networks like CNN that reported earlier that Palin may hurt McCain by overshadowing him. That is certainly an interesting way of putting it. I couldn’t help but laughing considering that these were the same anchors that said there was no possible way she could go after BO during her acceptance speech. Fortunately, I highly doubt Palin or McCain will be accepting campaign strategies from CNN anytime soon.
Good morning PUMAs, long night last night and there is no way I can read all the posts to get caught up.
Thank you #164 mimi1020 for that post. I just sent the article:
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
to Berg and asked for direction and his feedback on it.
I feel like a dummy for not knowing this before, since many ‘old time’ PUMAs say it’s been on the blog for awhile and I had no clue other than small parts of it.
If anyone wants to brainstorm further on what we can do with this information before the election, I am up to it.
I find it’s difficult to discuss some of what is on the blog today without discussing the elephant in the room.
Oprah’s peeps said that Palin’s being on her show has not been discussed, but they made a decision not to have any political interviews on the show. Oprah may invite Palin after the election, as someone has already reported. Oh, but they haven’t discussed Palin’s appearing!!
Ha, Ha, Called Obama’s headquarters and asked why he needs women fighting his battles for him… (they went bonkers)
and why would he think women don’t like him.. ha, that was the best one.. they couldn’t give me a reason.. so, I said maybe it’s the disrespect his campaign showed Hillary, who represents us?
All set here, Mama!
Prowl completed. My computer wouldn’t let me cc the copy.
I think Heart should let this one go…I’m a singer/songwriter and I would be thrilled with the exposure. I realize they are legends and don’t necessarily need it, but they are closing the door to a new fan base. they are still touring and would stand to make profits off of this.
You kick a** PumaDuma!
PumaDuma
How Funny…… LOL
Oprah and Sarah Palin…..
“The item in today’s Drudge Report is categorically untrue. There has been
absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show. At the
beginning of this presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to
take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision
not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that
Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on
after the campaign is over.” – Oprah Winfrey, September 5, 2008
When calling the Obama campaign. The message cut me off and said I didn’t put in a valid attendant number. What does that mean?
pamawo - your post leaves me feeling sad. i long ago stopped engaging in “conversations” on the blog, but post info from time to time that might be of interest to others. i have found your voice to be very very grounded and thougtful and one that offeres a perspective that balances some of the discourse and makes the environment all the richer because of it. i will miss you.
#354 pamawo
We have been like minded in many cases, and I don’t want to lose touch with you. If you don’t want to post, maybe we could each send a contact address to a mod and she could swap them. Is that possible??
Poor, poor Obama. His daddy ( Biden) is making inappropriate statements and his mommy ( Clinton )
has to help him out because those mean people ( McCain and Palin ) are threatening his reign. Don’t people understand that he is the one he has been waiting for. It’s just not fair to deny him the Presidency. He deserves it. After all, someone’s ancesters ( not necessarily his ) had to endure slavery and by voting for him it will somehow magically be expunged.
What is this entitled narcicist going to do if he actually becomes president . . . send Clinton or Biden to meet with foreign leaders? Can’t he handle his own responsibilities . . . yet? Oh I forget . . . he has no experience. Oh well, the Presidency sounds like good on-the-job-training for . . . God.
Wrote long e-mails to Clinton and Oprah . . . neither one of them complimentary. It really frosts me when women attack other women. Let Brazile go campaign
for Obama . . . she’s the one who said they didn’t need us in their new coalition.
There, I feel better now. Time to go distribute the last of my posters. Freddie mentioned printing new ones, now that we’re through the primary. Great idea. Also, how about a prowl of e-mailing Hillary just expressing our opinion that she should let the crybaby clean up his own mess.
#335 jrhed and #347 blondlady -
So he is somewhere in the deep away from BOTWORLD and trying to find his moorings. Or trying to keep away from the DE attorney issue he is involved in (or his son rather). Good for him and good for the BOTS!
#354 pamawo
I agree with you………… The blog is different since the convention, many new people come on and don’t have the same respect for Hillary that this blog represented.
Now they will trash me for saying this……….I am thinking that maybe I will move on too.
I am rallying all of my friends (online and irl) to take a stand against Heart and their two-faced antics.
LET SARAH BE HER OWN WOMAN!
#376 BillieJo
Oh, no you don’t. We will just get rid of them.
OK PEOPLE - ENOUGH!
LISTEN, PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO THEIR OPINIONS HERE.
AND MURPHY CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
BUT
THIS WEB AND BLOG IS DEDICATED TO TWO THINGS AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND….
1) NOBAMA
2) FIGHT THE CORRUPT DNC AND GET OUR PARTY BACK!
I SEE MANY HAVING BEEN CHOOSING TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT THEY DID NOT APPRECIATE - IT GET YOU FRUSTRATION - HOWEVER,
THAT WOULD BE LIKE LEAVING THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT THE REPUBS HAVE TO SAY. IT IS BESIDES THE POINT.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN,
STAY FOCUSED.
IF YOU CAN NOT TAKE THE HEAT - OK - BUT NO ONE SAID THIS WAS GOING TO BE EASY AND THAT THE CHOICES WE MAKE WOULD BE SIMPLE. THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR ALL OF US.
TO STRAP IT ON, GET A GRIP AND STAY FOCUSED.
SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE!
NOW, WHERE WERE WE, RIGHT EMAILING THE DNC…..AND DEFENDING HILLARY
#374 mpdamon
Good idea… I think we should swamp Hillary with emails protesting her help for BO.
#227 Dances with Pumas - (had to post this before going out the door to the airport) please reread Murphys # 167 regarding the choices - one does say leave BLANK on the Dem side for Presidency, other choices third party or write in - to defeat someone you have to vote for the other person right - or am I just completely ignorant and don’t get it - will look for your post when I return. Thanks.
BillieJo
Don’t make me come find you!
#374 mpdamon - good one! this could be a good narrative to say - “Not Ready for the POST, Never Ever”. Go HRC whenever you are ready.
#228 zolo
There is now an Independent something party, but in the past being registered Independent meant not affiliated with ANY party. Now in my state the registration term is Unaffiliated. You may have registered incorrectly.
Goooooooooooo, I hate fighting for this blog every day and getting trashed for it. I want to fight for Hillary and work together to do something meaningful to stop all this corruption. I don’t want to discuss the praises of Sarah Palin and if Oprah wants her on the show. I want to do something, put my neck out on the line to stop what is happening in this election. I am so sick to death of what a few people are doing to ruin out country.
#387 BillieJo
email me.
FYI - The American Independent Party is not the same thing as being registered as an Indpendent. The AIP is an actual party and has views that are not as benign as the name sounds. For anyone changing their party status, be careful about which box you select. The choice to be an Independent varies in wording from state to state. In some states it may say: “I Decline to State a Political Party”. In other states as per post # 385, it may be labeled as “Unaffiliated”. When in doubt go to the government pages of the phone book, check under county listings and go to Elections.
Hi,
I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I was channel surfing on my car radio and heard Hillary’s name, it was Rush Limbaugh and he said Hillary is not going to campaign for Obama, that her schedule is too busy and she already had prior engagements, or something to that effect.
I tried to verify it on google when I got home, but I can’t find anything on it. I don’t know if Rush was being facetious or he was telling the truth.
I thought maybe somebody here would know if it true. I hope it is true.
It may be true, because I now remember Rush saying something like “sure Hillary had prior engagements” in disbelief.
Also, here is a link to a great thread you may not have seen:
http://politicalforumblog.blogspot.com/
Anyone with graphic skills - perhaps you want to volunteer a new poster ?
Ignoring those who keep bickering…..hmmmm
so can we all just take a breath and come back later?
mimi, generally, yes. However, there are a great many issues which go into those generalities.
I supported Hillary when she was being attacked for daring to be a woman just as strongly as I support Sarahcuda.
Misogyny kept Hillary off the ticket; therefore, fighting misogyny is an honorable task - even when the msiogynists are women.
Murphy.. Mama..Maryland….
Still No Prowl!!
nativegirl
BillieJo and Goanderson
I need suggestions. I’ll be making the 800 mile drive from SC to NY next month. I will go through SC, NC, WV, VA, PA, NJ, and NY
I feel this is a great opportunity to get our Puma message out. Any suggestions for “tasteful” car decorations?
Prowl partially completed. I keep re-dialing the number and immediately pressing 6 to get a person, but get a message that all volunteers are busy. I have til 9 tonight CST and until 5 tomorrow CST to contact his campaign.
I did add the following to the email:
Is it because you will need a scapegoat when you fail? I know people like you who won’t assume the blame when they are wrong or fail. Need a woman to do your fighting, huh? There is a name for a man who hides behind a lady’s pants suit. Being a Lady myself, I won’t lower myself to use it. But, I know it immediately popped into your head.
PUMAS….i love you all
But, we need to tighten up and get a little thicker skinned.
First, no more melodrama. Let’s just agree to disagree. You know how I feel, and I am honest when I say I am sad to think of people not being able to vote McCain Palin when it might mean the difference between Hillary ever being president or 8 years of Bo.
HOWEVER, there are MANY OTHER FORMS OF PROTEST. JUST DO NOT LEAVE IT BLANK AND DO NOT VOTE FOR BO.
I do not think people should LEAVE puma over a disagreement. NO ONE AGREES ON every small issue, but we agree on the main one. WE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE DEMOCRAPPY party leadership or ANYONE WHO hurt our Hillary. We will not vote for them and we will ACTIVELY work to rid our country of these people…get them OUT of politics. We want to DEFEAT BO, and we want to elect Hillary ASAP.
I think we should be able to love and disagree, and fight the WAR with the enemy. If not us, who…if not NOW, when?
Murphy…what do you think?
#391 october surprise , #387 BillieJo et al - If you were united here for Hillary, please for PUMA sake find a common ground cause like someone advised me in a post a few hours back this will be victory for the other side and in this case for both parties cause you go to either side. Come together for the sake of yourselves.
Apologize if I tried to chase off anybody else but that is not my intention.
I was tempted to maybe vote for *61 after Hilary’s speech but after republican convention, I have decided to vote for McCain. I wanted to write in Hillary’s name before, but I do not want it to go to Obama if I do that.
#386 jenniforhillary
Right On, you said it better than me….
as us Cubans say… AYYYYYY
Prowl completed. Think we should do one to news stations
PUMAS UNITE!!!!!!
Ok read the article..brain is hurting now….all i have to say is.. ok …… and ?
#384 queen81
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Tasteful that would keep you safe PUMA, that is a difficult one.
Maybe stickers of PUMAs saying we are Democrats that are fighting for accountability in our party and in the news media…?
Jenni — I agree.
Our common enemy is much greater than the small differences that distinguish us from each other as individuals.
We still have ground rules for posting here — and the most important one is NO INSULTING other Pumas.
Thanks Jenni — and thank you to everyone who has mastered the art of not engaging troublemakers.
We have lots and lots of new and WELCOME members. We also get a few troublemakers who sneak through.
C’est la vie — we DO need thick skins.
Prior to the convention it seemed easier to feel unified. There was a relatively concrete goal as it pertained to Clinton’s candidacy and we seemed filled with hope.
Post convention, the goals appear to be more broad, harder to go after, coupled with post convention emotions. I, for one, feel the impact of having my voice muted for so long.
Now, it seems, the blog often gets bogged down in the kind of discourse that rarely leads anywhere, i.e. the old “never discuss politics or religion” adage. It’s as if the blog reflects debates between Republicans and Democrats regarding how to vote. It appears that many, if not most, have posted at least once, their thoughts as to how they plan to vote, and it goes round and round. I also think that if the subject of threads were not about the Republicans or Palin, etc it might reduce the temptation to keep revisiting these topics. If the thread is about them, then it’s probably hard to expect the conversation to be focused otherwise.
Maybe, in addition to Murphy’s prowls, we can keep posting ideas, or things we’re doing, helpful links, etc. to stay focused. As far as I can tell, ongoing discourse about McCain, Palin, Clinton, Obama, etc, leads to nowhere. Haven’t we all said the same things countless times? Perhaps because the blog is continuous, it’s tempting to keep restating it, but as far as I can tell, it leads nowhere. I stopped engaging in exchanges recently for this recent. I just no longer saw the point. But, I do visit and look for links or other posts that might be helpful toward my own projects to shed light on this corrupted and co-opted party.
That’s my two cents and now I’m going back to lurking and scavenging for ideas.
BillieJo
It is difficult isn’t it? I just feel like I’m going to pass thousands of vehicles and it would be a great opportunity to let folks know that they do have options
#221 Alice1943 and others censored by other bloggers
I saw your post yesterday and you did not say anything offensive, but some were afraid that it would be perceived by others not on the blog as racist. Later that evening I experienced the same thing when Dem4Hill made the comment that she wondered if the Obama campaign would attack McCain’s war record. I replied to her that they already had and listed a couple things they had said to swiftboat him. Gypsy something read my post without reading the one I was replying too and demanded to know if I had a source for the charges against McCain. I replied that I was repeating what I had heard and told her 2 sources where I had seen the information, then explained that these were attacks, not facts. She must not have read the last sentence about this being attacks not facts, and cautioned that we must not start rumors on this blog. Silly stuff, but you’ve got to get used to the fact that some aggressive people here like to lecture others and monitor the site. They’ve been told to email Murphy but can’t resist censoring others. Don’t worry about it, just do the prowls and read the great info provided here.
LOL, Precious even got beat on his infamous speech!!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
John McCain has won the ratings race.
The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama’s record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000 viewers.
McCain’s address at the Democratic National Convention was seen by about 38.9 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. Obama received 38.4 million.
That means McCain’s speech is now the most-watched in convention history — 41% higher than George W. Bush’s acceptance speech four years ago, and 1% higher than Obama.
#388 mimi1020
Hey… us natives say that too!!!
“AAYYYYY”
#BMW60: Hilarious….wonderful…brilliant..some of the best satire this whole season!! I hope you advertise this EBAY AUCTION to the media…like Fox … Send info to Meg Whitman!,…Send it to everybody….Oh so good!
Congratulations!
#393 Anna7000
I agree with you.
bmw60
MommaE is cracking up on her radio show about your post on ebay about the DNC.
Does anyone have riverdaughter’s email address?
#383 nativegirl I have it still do you want me to send it to you.
Maybe Hillary got the message from us about not doing BO’s work.
Where did the ebay post go?
bmw60: I used the link you provided and it said this item is no longer available…has it been removed by EBAY? Please check
#402 slyt2
Yes.. please….
anativegirl at ymail dot com
Thanks you!!!!
Democrats in Trouble
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_dick_morris/democrats_in_trouble
Tough love
Do your part. This blog is a distraction and helping get Obama elected. You could be doing something constructive instead of lamenting.
This do nothing blog is driving people away!
You could be using your email lists to send information to other voters. And ask them to forward it to more voters.
examples:
Palin’s speech, or McCains or excerpts from both.
You could send them notice of the lawsuit slapped on Obama today.
You could send them the article saying that Oprah is banning Palin as sexism toward the woman cadidate.
There should be media lists and websites listed in the action center to use to send messages.
Organize and have people in different parts of the country write letters to local media.
Create a letter center to deposits letters for others to use. Tell everyone that if you post a letter here, we can use it.
Get the show on the road!
I end up most of the time spending more time reading this blog than posting on it, because there is so much to sort through. Why don’t you take the important links etc as they are posted and move them up to the top?
Let’s do something.
BMW60: Can you send the list so far to Ninepercent Nancy and Coward Scream and DonnaGotDeals?
I would love to think of them reading this!
(My new name for Nancy: her approval rating! and her Democratic Congress!)
#405 nativegirl you should have mail coming anytime
401 BillieJo on 09.05.08 at 4:36 pm Does anyone have riverdaughter’s email address?
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theconfluence08atyahoodotcom or
confluence08 at yahoodotcom
Hey “Firechief”, you are really an Obamacon in disguise aren’t you?!!! Your comment is ridiculous! As a staunch Hillary supporter, I can tell that you aren’t! Obama is weak to ask Hillary to fight his battles! Obama is getting his karmic justice for how his campaign and he, as well as the obamacon Media, tried to “destroy Hillary’s political career”. You are an obamacon, I can tell. You have the nerve to tell women like myself, who know what we witnessed happening to Hillary, to vote Obama!!!!!! You should really unveil yourself for who you are. If you want to advocate to those PUMA’s who are female, and who have given up on the “male Washington Good ‘Ol Boys Club”, to Not vote for MCCain, you are “singin’ up the wrong tree”. We are voting for McCain, because we believe that is the ONLY WAY the DNC and Obamacons will learn their lesson, and NEVER MISTREAT A FEMALE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE, ESPECIALLY HILLARY CLINTON AGAIN!
did the prowl but the can’t get through on the phone lines.
#409 slyt2
Thank you.. Thank you.. Thank you.. I thought I was speaking in sign!!!!
nativegirl
Advisers to Mrs. Clinton said that she stood ready to help the Obama-Biden ticket, but they urged the campaign not to overestimate the impact Mrs. Clinton could have, noting that she had other commitments this fall, like campaigning and raising money for Senate candidates. Obama aides said the Clinton trip had been in the works before Ms. Palin was named the running mate.
This is from Realclearpolitics.com under OBAM Women to Campaign for Obama. Article fron New York Times.
#412 nativegirl sorry I was holding our friends baby and just got back to the blog .
#411 NJ1313 what happens when you call , husband just got back so I still have to call on cellphone.
Prowls calls are all fine and good. But let’s do more to prevent Obama from getting elected.
Take the best lines from Palins speech and the best from McCains and send them. Get someone to find them and to take excerpts or you may decide to send them whole.
You should post the Oprah link at the top
you should post the press release for the Obama lawsuit
what was that website for writing letters to newspapers? Make a list for each state and post it?
CJV: Please do not give up! We are stronger than those who do this…We are..all of us together are…don’t you dare give up..maybe take a break if you need to…get off the computer…for a couple of days…I have had to do that numerous times in these 10 months…I am sure many have…No..Never. Never. Never give up!
#413 sweetpea,
additionally,
“She’s not the answer when it comes to winning conservative women — she never was — and we’re not going to be anybody’s attack dog against Sarah Palin,” said a Clinton insider. “To be fair to Obama’s people, they haven’t asked us to do that.”
Slamming Palin to win back women already hostile to Obama is pointless, the insider said, because Clinton’s most loyal base is working-class voters, not women in particular. “Attacking Palin is checkers, attacking McCain on the economy is chess.”
email sent!!! (again.. thank you sly2)
trying to get throught the phone line. busy.. busy.. busy!!!
nativegirl
I finally got disentangled from the DNC after weeks of trying to unsubscribe. The elusive 4-digit code ended up in my spam folder (so be sure to check there), but it’s the first time I was actually sent one . . .
Is there are reason why resources aren’t growing in the Resource Center? It seems many many people have posted requests and suggestions along with offers to help organize information, links, etc. There’s so much reinvention of the wheel, like a tire spinning in the mud.
Thanks nhforhillary — those are all good ideas.
This blog is a reprieve and a resource for Pumas who have to live in, as jenni so aptly put it this morning, the “democrazed” world of the DONC and the MSM every day.
SNOOPY
I have an idea :0 Post it on Gretawire - repeatedly
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#343 Snoopy on 09.05.08 at 3:39 pm MSM still refuses to report……………
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08
SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.com
Prowl done, I used Riverdaughter’s words (cleaned it up a little) along with my own to smack Obama:
Letter for Senator Obama,
I am sending you the words of another that express my feelings better than I do, I expect you to fight your own battles to win the Whitehouse, not send Hillary Clinton to face the Republicans for you. You have gotten a free pass by the media, used others to fight for you so you can pretend to be ‘clean’ and above all the nastiness of your campaign.
This is what I think of your wanting to send Hillary to fight Sarah Palin for you, and I might add, you are not only a corrupt man, you are a wimp. I will never, never help you in anyway get to the Whitehouse. I and millions of honest American’s are doing everything in our power to make sure you are not the President of the United States. Not next year, not four years from now, never.
When you got in bed with Karl Rowe on this election, you did not count on the American people finding out about it. It is all over the internet so you can run, but you can’t hide.
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It has come to our attention that Obama is going to bring out his big gun to neutralize Sarah Palin. From the NYTimes an hour ago, we have this, Obama Camp Turns to Clinton to Counter Palin:
ST. PAUL — Senator Barack Obama will increasingly lean on prominent Democratic women to undercut Gov. Sarah Palin and Senator John McCain, dispatching Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to Florida on Monday and creating a rapid-response team to deploy female surrogates to battleground states, Obama advisers said on Thursday.
Mrs. Clinton’s campaign event in Florida, her first for Mr. Obama since the Democratic convention last month, will include a forceful response to the searing attacks and fresh burst of energy that Ms. Palin injected into the race with her convention speech on Wednesday night, Obama aides said.
This is a career ending move for Obama for countless reasons. Let me enumerate a few:
!.) Let me get this straight, Sarah Palin beats you up and steals your lunch money and instead of standing up for yourself, you send out a little note about how she hurt your feelings as a community organizer and you send out another girl to fight your battle. Er, OK. Will you also be sending her out to do business with the Russians, the North Koreans, the health insurance biggies? How about if she does all the debates for you too? Because if you need Hillary to do all the fighting on your behalf, then maybe she should be nominee.
2.) Your surrogates in the blogosphere have been raking Sarah Palin over the coals for 6 days now.
3.) We LOVE Hillary Clinton and we want you to treat her with respect. If you send her to Florida to kick in Sarah’s teeth, we will see it as a mark of disrespect for her. She is a brilliant politician and a dedicated public servant, not your personal gladiator.
4.) She would do this for the party and the Democratic principles that she believes in. But after this primary season where she was treated so horribly by her own party, we are beginning to think that Hillary and Bill Clinton are the only ones in the party who still *have* any Democratic principles. Now, she will write a brilliant and probably very convincing speech as to why we should not support John McCain and Sarah Palin. And she would be right if the party she represents weren’t composed of a bunch of middle aged white sexist men. We want to get rid of those middle aged sexist men. We will be voting for downticket Democrats who represent our values. But we won’t be voting for you under ANY circumstances. If the party finds itself in a pickle now with an unelectable nominee, then we have a suggestion for it: CHANGE THE NOMINEE!
5.) It is time Hillary Clinton stopped being a doormat. If it’s campaign debt that keeps her indentured to you, we’ll have as many fundraisers as we need to to pay it off. But there is no reason you need Hillary to go after Palin. Get Richardson to do it. Or Dodd or Edwards. Ahh, but it has to be Hillary, right? Because otherwise it looks like these guys are attacking a female. What does that suggest to us? Well, to me it means that you got a problem with women. Color me shocked.
If Hillary is out there reading, don’t do it for him. Or if you must, stick to the Conflucian rules: No character assassination and no rumormongering without evidence. Actually, we can trust you to behave honorably but it’s the creeps you are promoting who won’t. So, ask yourself, where do you draw the line?
For us, this is it.
#418 nativegirl depending on how many people called and got through they probably took the phone off the hook because we made them mad.
I have a question also for anyone here, how can heart (the band ) say the RNC couldn’t play there song? If I am at a bar or a dance does the DJ have to call every single band that they are going to play and ask permission, i don’t think so. I could see when Jackson Browne said that about using his song in a commercial for McCain but a song at the RNC along with several other song that is stupid.
#310 freddiebrown - Wow. That was quite an article. Some of the early information on Rove, Brazille, Rezko, Bush, et al. seemed a bit convoluted, but actually made a lot of sense, and is pretty well documented. Ugh! The DNC was played like a fiddle. It seems to me that those of us here at PUMA and other Nobama coalition groups had always seen the truth behind it. I know I constantly questioned everything that was going on in the media and with the two campaigns. I had a discussion with a friend once about how I thought it was the Repubs orchestrating the democratic primary. It was so obvious it makes me sick to think that intelligent democrats were soooooo taken by this whole scheme.
There seems to some tension on this blog. Not sure why. The DNC needs a complete overhaul and one of the ways to make sure it happens in the future is to make sure BO does NOT become the next POTHUS.
Take a break PUMAs. Here is a quiz about BO and McCain.
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/MatchoMatic/fullpage?id=5542139
Pumas , these last 2 “prowls’ have been funny , but to what end ? I am still committed to either keeping XO off the ballot or defeating him in Nov. I have friends all across the United States who have never even heard about the caucus fraud (except from me now) . I still have faith that , when people are given all of the information , they will make the right decision .
When we don’t have a productive prowl , what we become is a whole bunch of strong minded , opinionated Pumas trapped in a room -picture that for a second and you will be able to unserstand why the board gets so messy lately .
We need some direction , some focus - a legitimit TARGET . When we are working together , we are a force of nature ! We come back from our prowls with responses and results - our views have been aired on tv and we are giving each other hi- fives . We need that again .
Those caucus tapes from ‘I won’t be silenced’ NEED to get out . The Berg lawsuit NEEDS to get out . We have been very successful in the past , but I haven’t even heard the word PUMA on the news in quite awhile ….
I hope we get to reintroduce ourselves to America soon or I’m affraid there won’t be many Pumasof us left in the den … ( I’ll still be here , but I may not be nearly as pettable )
#150BlueJay: I and others are supposed to go to a website that reduces complex issues to one line summaries of a so called position by a Governor or any other candidate? I and no one else knows the compiler of this information. There are no citations to laws, Executive Orders, texts, and any other references which allow a reader or researcher to read whole texts within context? Your dependenance on such slim and superficial so called research is your business. This is an example of the difference between the original documents, the written texts, and knowledge and internet “information.” I never let someone else summarize original data for me, upon which I am supposed to draw important conclusions… Point of view…Control of point of view resides always in the editor and one who summarizes. I have researched Palin. These summaries and your desire to have people take a one line poll regarding the so called issues are simply superficial. Don’t be offended. I am addressing the issue you raised and the methodologies presented to respond to them.
AARP is going to do 2 live webcasts. One with McCain and the other with obie. I posted the link this morning to send in questions to them. Here is the email with the times and the links for the webcasts tomorrow.
Dear Prplvette85,
In less than 24 hours, AARP CEO Bill Novelli hosts separate, live sessions via satellite with Senators Barack Obama and John McCain at the AARP Life@50+ National Event!
You can WATCH BOTH EVENTS LIVE on AARP’s special streaming webcast.
Saturday, September 6
Watch Senator Barack Obama at 8:30 a.m. ET
http://www.aarp.org/obamawebcast
Watch Senator John McCain at 12:30 p.m. ET
http://www.aarp.org/mccainwebcast
Since this morning, we have received more than 10,000 questions from AARP supporters asking how the senators will tackle the health care and financial security challenges facing the nation. We’ll be asking some of those questions directly to them – but every question not asked will be personally delivered to Senators Obama and McCain.
Don’t miss this exclusive opportunity tomorrow to hear their positions on the issues that matter most to you.
Can’t catch the live streaming broadcast? Watch a replay of the talks anytime at http://www.aarp.org
Watch the webcast and then visit AARP’s blog, ShAARPsession, to tell us what you think.
Sincerely,
Barry Jackson
AARP Online Advocacy Manager
Palin’s ex-brother law admits on CNN that he tasered his son-in-law though he said it was meant to be a training lesson and regrets doing it.
#325 Blue Blue Gal
i listen to am talk radio in my car. so i heard, too, that rush limbaugh encouraged peeps, republicans, to go and vote for obama in the primaries, so as to keep hillary off the ticket. and other dems, in the know, have also said they heard this. so, it is either a rumor gone viral, or factual.
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Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:25 AM
By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size
It may be sound unbelievable, but conservative Rush Limbaugh is urging Republicans to cross party lines this Tuesday in primaries in Ohio and Texas and vote for Hillary Clinton.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/republicans_vote_hillary/2008/02/28/76379.html
#430 TexasTigress
I totally agree with you. Maybe there should be a small group of us that all work together to do hardcore prowls together.
Sign me up, I want to be on that list. I want to get this out too: http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
I have already started sending it out before the site is scrubbed. Sent it to Berg too.
Hillary, do not let anyone attack Palin. If Obama dumps Biden, and picks you, a new game will be on! My vote will be for a woman, and may the best woman win!
PA will go to Nobama, no matter the actual vote total, in my opinion. They know they need us and will get us by any means. It’ll be close, by the state’s count, but it will go to Nobama. Ed Rendell is governor here, and what Ed Rendell wants, Ed Rendell gets…no matter what.
As far as those who are upset by any contrary, non-worshipping, blinders-on remark about our Hillary, you’re beginning to remind me of Nobama’s maniacal followers. Very scary. IMHO
Maybe this will be MY last post. (cry, whine, cry)
Face facts, folks.
Revised…..Palin’s brother-in-law tasered his step son, not son-in-law…
Revised…..Palin’s brother-in-law tasered his step son, not son-in-law…
“Maybe this will be MY last post. (cry, whine, cry)”
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LOL.
Second funniest post of today.
#435 BillieJo
#430 TexasTigress
I am pretty sure that Goandersen, Antifish, Sandipuma and Greenfun will also be up for it. We are all working behind the scenes and I am sure there are more.
FLIER SUGGESTION
Make Your Own!
Everyone has some issues they’re hell bent on, be it the Berg lawsuit, caucus fraud, etc. (I tend to go with the laundry list approach!). Make a flier that states in simple, clear, easy-to-read text what the issue is. Make sure you cite credible resources. You can include links to direct people if they want additional info. Again, I’d avoid u-tube stuff and keep it as credible as possible.
Easy to do. We’ve got lots of info. Can do it at home on your computer. Printing is pretty cheap. Can print it on brightly colored paper.
FLIER SUGGESTION
Make Your Own!
Everyone has some issues they’re hell bent on, be it the Berg lawsuit, caucus fraud, etc. (I tend to go with the laundry list approach!). Make a flier that states in simple, clear, easy-to-read text what the issue is. Make sure you cite credible resources. You can include links to direct people if they want additional info. Again, I’d avoid u-tube stuff and keep it as credible as possible.
Easy to do. We’ve got lots of info. Can do it at home on your computer. Printing is pretty cheap. Can print it on brightly colored paper.
#436 thecandypoem - If BO dumps JOE, would that not show him to be a weakling. Oh, actually since he is one I think there is some truth to this story. In my books then, he is not ready to take a call at 3 p.m. let alone when kids sleep at 3 a.m.
435 BillieJo - Man , that’s the old ‘ Brazile- Rove connection ‘ article . I posted that back on HRC . I think I posted it here a long time ago as well . I have really been wantying to prowl local news stations in swing states ( as you know ) Maybe Anna could write something short but powerful and pertinent that we could attach a link of the caucus fraud or Berg case to and send out . ( PLEASE Anna - you are so good
)
#429 ontherocks I just did it and it threw BO off that seesaw and it said McCain, I only matched up with BO on 2 answers .
#430 TexasTigress me too, I’d like to help
Now Obama wants Hillary and realizes that he needs her. Great job of pointing this out!
“I know there has been quite a bit of “men” blaming on this site, but Women like her (oprah) and Huffington have done as much, if not more, damage to Hillary than any man has.”
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bullshit.
I have a question for anyone here, how can heart (the band ) say the RNC couldn’t play there song? If I am at a bar or a dance does the DJ have to call every single band that they are going to play and ask permission, i don’t think so. I could see when Jackson Browne said that about using his song in a commercial for McCain but a song at the RNC along with several other song that is stupid.
Clinton set to strike McCain, not Palin (standing with women not against them)
Hillary Rodham Clinton has no intention of becoming a Sarah Palin attack dog — but has no qualms going after John McCain, people close to the former first lady say.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Rush transcript on Community Organizer. I have complete transcript which I e-mailed to Murphy don’t know if I can post due to length and copyright etc. My friend’s husband is a big Rep. and Rush fan so he is getting a real kick out of me. He e-mails me with alot of stuff about the election!!! I don’t lioke Rush but this is priceless!!!
“Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out of touch politicians and their failed policies.” (laughing) Okay, so we got a great new definition of what community organizing is about: “Ordinary people respond to out of touch politicians and their failed policies.” Well, then who is the community organizer interfacing with? If the out of work people talked to the community organizer, who does he then go to to fix the problem? In Obama’s case I’ll guarantee you it’s another lawyer or it was Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright or maybe some state or national congressman. I mean, you talk about out of touch? Ordinary people run for city councils and become mayors! Ordinary people do not become community organizers! That’s why it’s so rare!
How many of you in your town, if you wanted to become a community organizer, where would you go to apply? To whom would you give your resume? What would be your qualifications if you sought to be a community organizer? You gotta be a community organizer? Don’t give me social programs. Don’t give me Meals on Wheels. Those are handled by other people. Don’t give me all this other stuff, homeless shelters. It’s not community organizer. What the hell is it? How many of you people in your town know where to go to apply for that job? How many of you in your town know a community organizer? And how many of you have known a community organizer who went on to something big and great? Not that they haven’t, but how many of you know of one? Well, yeah, okay. Al Sharpton organized the community with Tawana Brawley. I mean, what are we talking about here? We’re talking about an Obama campaign that has been rocked…back…on…its…heels. They are in deep trouble. They have a lot to fear today. They know it and they are feeling the fear.
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Pumas,
I just read this blog about Obamots spamming anti-Barak sites. This is incredible. Shows they will stoop to anything.
http://bloggasm.com/whos-responsible-for-shutting-down-a-number-of-anti-obama-blogspot-accounts
((sly))) they can ask , and out of respect , the RNC will probably drop it .
From my “It’s Yours to Lose” Prowl
“I also am compelled to look at how I, as a feminist, have been conned. For years, I bought into the Democrats advocacy of women’s rights. What a lie. There is room in the party for Claire-Pabulum-McCaskill, but a woman who exhibits the strength, intelligence and stamina of Hillary Clinton? Never, never, never, never, never to quote King Lear. Gloria Allred? Shut her up! Geraldine Ferraro? Smear her as a racist! Stephanie Tubbs-Jones? Desecrate her funeral for political points! The Democrats have engaged in a scam to get volunteer hours and those all-important campaign dollars from women, while bashing women methodically and systematically. ”
Puma is the change the Democrats are looking for.
One of the previous concerns I have had was that if Pumas fail in our efforts to help nominate Hillary, we Pumas would be wandering in the wilderness for who know how long.
Right now, it seems like we are fighting everyone on every front and must choose between mostly contradictory choices: i.e.:
- not to vote for Obama (this is the easy one)
- not to endorse any particular candidate(except Hillary of course)
- only to support good Dems.
- not to become or to support Republicans
- Nothing on Top (this is the most difficult one because we all know to vote McCain/Palin is the sure, and possibly the only way to defeat Obama – otherwise it is like telling a soldier to go fight a war but without real bullets)
I do not have any easy answer to this situation, but like someone has said earlier, now its either McCain or Obama, and one of them will become the President of the United States of America. If we don’t bite the bullet now, then when?
I think Puma PAC, if continue to be an action group, needs to come up with a more defined goal(s) to unite all members. Either we go after the media, the DNC, or to find a way to negotiate what we want with McCain / Republicans etc…Without reaching this we will continue to disagree daily with each other. I believe only Murphy can do this.
I am still hoping the Berg thing will come through for Hillary.
A record 38.9 million U.S. TV viewers watched John McCain accept the Republican nomination for president on Thursday, slightly more than the 38.3 million people who tuned in for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s speech, Nielsen Media Research reported.
#445 TexasTigress on 09.05.08 at 5:25 pm
435 BillieJo - Man , that’s the old ‘ Brazile- Rove connection ‘ article . I posted that back on HRC . I think I posted it here a long time ago as well . I have really been wantying to prowl local news stations in swing states ( as you know ) Maybe Anna could write something short but powerful and pertinent that we could attach a link of the caucus fraud or Berg case to and send out . ( PLEASE Anna - you are so good
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I have just emailed Antifish, Goandersen, SandiPUMA and Greenfun to see if we can work together on the hardcore prowls to get this stuff out.
Anna, I have had a lot of trouble with fliers were I am, is total Obie land and the fliers are never read but torn up. I hope to send though email to news agencies and blogs…maybe if we work on it together we can choose our own way to get the info out.
MKfromLA — that happened to us on June 25th. It took almost 2 weeks for the site to be republished by Google.
Luckily it wasnt our main site, but what if it had been?
It’s only been 3 months Folks, but what a long,strange trip it’s already been.
I’ve already forgotten a good portion of things that have happened here at Puma PAC in the last 3 months.
nice one aniem!
Hay Pumas
Hard day at work. One of the kids I work with made the paper today with a weapons position. We had lock downs at 3 schools. Tired. No one was hurt.
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/sep/05/no-headline—nxxfclockdown06/
All this politics stuff is fun but then there is the real world.
Man, this being a teenager thing is a hell of a job. Glad to be 42.
Poor stupid kids.
#448 DancesWithPumas
#459 murphy
Murphy HI!!!
Do you think the email I sent you was too dangerous?
Michelle Obama HATES the CLINTONS particularly HRC, and SHE was NOT going to stand by and let her husband work with HRC! SHE even said so on the View and other interviews that it would send the WRONG message for Obama to select HRC as his running mate! I am so done with the DNC its not funny, that fiasco of a convention and all the wasted money and the obvious fraud perpetuated on the voters…it is too much. I feel confident with McCain and Palin, and McCain said more in his acceptance speech than Obama has said his entire career, he speaks still in riddles and never gives direct answers…I will be glad he is GONE after November…
#437 heysandy, I say get off your duff and do something about it…there is NO way Obama should win PA!!!!!!!!!
#431 NewOrleansPuma
If you would prefer, I could saturate this page with hundreds of sources that say exactly the same thing. But I carefully chose a source that appeared to present a fair sampling of only ON THE RECORD policy decisions - a website which included all of the candidates in all of the parties and at least appeared to be unbiased. The source I chose also included links to the original sources of many of the policy claims for folks like you who were inclined to dig deeper.
I don’t see many other websites posted here that are held up to such scrutiny. I’m a human being, and I did the best I could to present my concerns about Governor Palin in a respectful way.
If you are distrustful of online sources, then I encourage you to hear about the Arctic Refuge from an absolutely impeccable source - the people who live there:
From: Sarah James
Board Member/Spokesperson
Neet’sai Gwich’in, Arctic Village
“We are the Ones Who Have Everything to Lose.
Maybe there are too few of us to matter. Maybe people think Indians are not important enough to consider in making their energy decisions. But it’s my people who are threatened by this development. We are the ones who have everything to lose.
The oil companies keep saying that all their roads and pipelines aren’t going to bother the caribou. But we know the caribou. We know they don’t like all that stuff, especially when they are having their calves. We are concerned about all the salt and chemicals they put on their roads. It can drain onto the tundra, get into the water, and be unhealthy for the young caribou. A report from the Canadian government tells us that the caribou have already been disturbed around the oil fields. If we lose the caribou there will be no more forever.”
Sarah James, Arctic Refuge: a Circle of Testimony
http://www.gwichinsteeringcommittee.org/whoweare.html
“Either we go after the media, the DNC, or to find a way to negotiate what we want with McCain / Republicans etc…”
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Personally, I think it would be a mistake to choose between “either or”, because we’d be placing all our eggs in one basket.
I think we can act multilaterally and have an positive effect on several fronts.
.07 cents
PS The only thing I want from McCain, besides having him become a liberal democrat in policy, is for him to defeat sissy-boy obama.
#464 hillaryistheone
Hi girl, are you up for our brainstorming and working together…see post #457
OMG on fox they said they are getting swamped with emails from outraged WOMAN claiming Sarah Palin SHOULD NOT be VP because she is a mother. WTF, way to go ladies ,woman have been working and taking care of their families for years now. Most families have to be a two income family. Now I understand that VP isn’t a normal job for most woman but come on they must be BO supporters.
468 slyt2
They are from Obots! They don’t like to see anyone that tarnishes the pretenders image.
Obama throws a tantrum
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/obama-whaaa-she-attacked-me-why-cant-i-attack-her/
#468 slyt2, I will bet it is the Obamabots!!!!!!!!!!
No one else is that stupid!!!!!!!!
462 BillieJo
if you want ot work on something here is a “hardcore “prowl for ya
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_sutton_saudi/2008/09/03/127490.html
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman, Newsmax ,Wed Sept 3, 2008 5:58 PM
New evidence has emerged that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was closely associated as early as age 25 to a key adviser to a Saudi billionaire, Khalid al Mansour who had mentored the founding members of the Black Panthers. - snip-
Sutton gives no clues as to why al-Mansour would be raising money to help Obama go to law school. Obama has said during his campaign that he paid his way through Harvard with student loans. -snip=
For Jesse Lee Peterson, founder of the Los Angeles-based Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny (BOND), these latest revelations about Obama’s ties to Saudi financiers were an important wake-up call.
“To me, this opened up more questions about Barack Obama and his relationship to the Muslim world,” Peterson told Newsmax.
#469 BillieJo that is what I figured too, alright I have to run and grab some taco bell for my hungry crew here, be back in a bit. Oh yea if you and texastigress still need more help with brainstorming and working together count me in if you want.
462 BillieJo
go back and read
80 Kelligesq
#432………..AARP…………….God I hate these people!
They are merely a lobby group and crummy INSURANCE company. They pushed through the worst piece of crap for seniors with the prescription B plan, a failed and waste of resources.
Oh and of course they will lead you by your nose and tell you how to vote! What a scam!!
Prowl complete! You’re right - it feels good.
That picture was gross and those people are scum. Just sent $50 to McCain/Palin. Keep up the sleeze, more support for the Barracuda.
#475, I agree HP Boston, I won’t even join that group and I could have 9 years ago. I throw their garbage in the garbage!!!
Backlash Against Vicious Media Attacks On Americas New Leading Woman Continues - Updated
Published by AJStrata at 12:16 pm
America has embraced Sarah Palin as one of us, part of our family. How could we not, she is one of us. No clearer indication is out there than the drubbing the liberals and left wing media are taking for their low life treatment of Sarah and her wonderful family:
Three celebrity weeklies OK!, People and Us Weekly featured Sarah Palin on their cover, but one of those magazines is reportedly losing subscribers because of it.
Us Weekly, which unlike People and OK!, chose a rather caustic cover line (Babies, Lies and Scandal) is said to have lost thousands of subscribers in just the first 24 hours following the printing of the issue.
Im hearing its 5,000, maybe more, says one well-placed source in the industry. Another source claimed that as many as 10,000 readers have already cancelled their subscriptions.
If the message is not clear now it will be soon. Dont mess with the Palins because they are one of ours now and we will not allow a bitter DC/NY establishment to trash our family.
Update: The media is now blaming surprise as their excuse for running gutter rumors and demanding the Palins provide DNA samples to prove who where the parents of young Tigg:
David Westin, president of ABC News, said the intense focus on Palin who was not widely known before McCain tapped her as his running mate last week exacerbated a perception that the media were piling on.
Some of whats happened this week is inevitable when you have a true surprise, he said. Youre compressing months, if not years, of examination in a few days.
Bull crap! The fact the media ignored the well known possibility Palin may get selected is not an excuse to throw all professionalism and basic decency out the window and run with rumors and lies. The media is even trying to exploit the charges of a stalking ex-husband of Sarahs sister to create some dirt on the Governor.
Since when did the liberal media take up the cause of a stalking ex-husband? There is no excuse for the crap the media peddled - and the longer they deny THEY control the quality and professionalism that goes into their so called product the more America will turn to other news outlets.
Seems Sarah is starting to purge our nation of a major element of the Political Industrial Complex which has sunk DC back into the swamps it was built on. We dont have to vote to fix the media - all we have to do is switch the channels and cancel subscriptions. And that is what we are doing since the unrepentant media doesnt want to clean up their act. Think anyone will miss these clowns? I dont.
Fox had a woman from “The Working Womans magazine that said the majority of women voted that Palin should stay home and take care of kids !
Now somehow I can’t believe working women would say that !
I think a boycott of that magazine would also send a message that women can do anything ,even bring down a magazine that pretends to be for women
DIVA,
Thanks so much.
Will check the kellig at starspath dot com mail once an hour.
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Looking for Webfoot - need to “talk” to her - she may have some info needed …
Thanks
Will be glad to help Billie Jo with research or whatever is needed. Not a good speech writer…but I can sure email and do research.
#474 prowlland
I saw that. There is a lot of dirt out there on obie and something has to stick before November. We have to bring him to his knees and the others that were working with him.
If you are in bed with that many creeps, you will come crashing down at some point. I hope it happens before he brings down the honor of the USA if he is Prez at that time. Nixon was a disgrace, but this is much worse.
#481 hillaryistheone on 09.05.08 at 6:00 pm
Will be glad to help Billie Jo with research or whatever is needed. Not a good speech writer…but I can sure email and do research.
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Great Hilaryistheone….can you put up your email or ask Murphy to send it to me. I have the others I mentioned except Anti, and asked Go to pass it on.
Are you an email that starts with cynthiaxx@xxx.xxx ?
If so, I have it.
#262 Anna 7000…..always love your posts..they are so detailed. Thanks for that composite info. Was looking for that kind of info to bring to a PUMA PARTY a friend will have in the future, where I am invited to share my perspective on this election. I will be honored to represent the PUMAS!!!! Maybe change a mind or two!!!
Have had this thought…..many, including me, are concerned about women’s rights…even lots of fair minded men. Always thought the democratic party would be the ones to bring the issue to fruition. OBVIOUSLY NOT this year! But I personally believe that Sarah Palin by virtue of her being selected and hopefully being VP…will do MORE for women’s rights and overcoming pervasive SEXISM than years of debating the issues or trying to get equal pay legislation passed. Reproductive rights….a separate issue. Am not talking about that.
Sure wish Hillary would have an epiphany and join us PUMAS as a 3rd party!!!! She is really my hero.
The Elephant in the Room.
This describes me in a nutcase-shell…I can’t believe I have loosened the reins of the Dim-ocratic Party’s shackles,
and have jumped into the Lion’s den of the Republican camp.
Just testing the water, and so far, the peanuts are the same…except for…SARAH PALIN…
finally a woman on the top ticket. Yes, I am that kind of feminist.
http://www.carpetride.wordpress.com
Go, anti, greenfun- you have mail
prowldc @ gee mail.com
482 BillieJo
we have sent this to every media we can think of…
be sure and read all of the article/// and watch the video at the bottom.
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_sutton_saudi/2008/09/03/127490.html
and dont forget the 8th person on the list of dead people
With reference to post 221 by Alice 1943
It’s one thing to say you are leaving, it’s another to vindictively and unnecessarily go out of your way to withdraw complaints to DOJ, AG , and whoever.
You hurt the effort and hard work of Lady Hawke, and our efforts to stop Obama from possibly becoming the president of this country, so what did you accomplish?
I cannot speak for Lady Hawke, but don;t mention my name as a person you would follow because I would never ever in a milllion years work with someone who has done what you have done.
Shame Shame on you.
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We now return to scheduled programming.
This is the second day in a row the handyman hasn’t shown up to put the shutters down and move the furniture inside before IKE. That’s what I like. Reliability (:
See ya later guys, gotta go struggle with the shutters,
Kelli
488 prowlland
I think that is why he was sent to Hawaii at the age of 10
PROWLLAND
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#454AniEm: I disagree with your suggestions of what Murphy and this Pac should be doing and will be doing.
In fact, Murphy has taken an excellent nuanced, practical position regarding this Pac. She knows that the Pac must position itself as an independant entity, apart from immediate allegience with other entities for the purposes of immediate acts. On the other hand, she consistently restates the purposes articulated at the beginning of this Pac and practical actions, prowls, etc.
still take place regarding that position. This Pac as an independant entity has nothing to gain from a formal allegiance with the Republican Party, simply because the Pac’s position is an antiobama one. She also knows that after this election, if we succeed in defeating Obama along with millions out there, the Pac must continue to maintain and act on the other purposes stated at the beginning of the Pac: Reform of the Democratic Party. When one adds her steady, tolerant hand on allowing so many different opinions, other than Obamablots, on this blog, the combination is a winning one, i.e., winning in that the Pac retains independance and variety within, even as it pursues its purpose.
As a community organizer (and not the Alinsky kind)
and builder of groups for almost 15 years, I find her tactics and approach to the construction and maintenance of the group to be excellent! Murphy, I love the combination of nuance and directness that this Pac and your leadership have provided! Follow your instincts….they are great…and the rest of us will continue to do our thing in concert, on our own, and any other variety of ways…..This is true freedom of expression and action!
#468 slyt2 on 09.05.08 at 5:45 pm OMG on fox they said they are getting swamped with emails from outraged WOMAN claiming Sarah Palin SHOULD NOT be VP because she is a mother. WTF, way to go ladies ,woman have been working and taking care of their families for years now. Most families have to be a two income family. Now I understand that VP isn’t a normal job for most woman but come on they must be BO supporters.
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My first thought is that they are coming from many male BO supporters who are using female names. I would love for FOX to check some of them out.
This morning, I heard a report on Fox that Hillary would be going out to attack Palin starting Monday. My heart sank at the news because, yesterday, I visited the Cheetos and they were all thrilled that Sebelius and Wasserman-Schultz were out attacking Palin. They stated they couldn’t wait until Hillary joined in the attack.
Needless to say, that made me so mad, I went to Hillary’s website and wrote a very convincing email as to why such an attack would be a horrible idea in light of what she, herself had suffered and that she risked alienating some of her supporters who were angry about the attacks on Palin already.
This evening I was listening to Hannity’s radio show when he announced that Clinton’s aides had stated that she would not attack Governor Palin, but would go after McCain instead.
I know it’s a stretch, but I hope my email had a little influence? Anyway, I’m glad she made this decision and I was able to confirm it from another source.
Go Hillary!! Although the Democratic Party is devoid of morality, you are still a classy lady and it is not worthy of you.
Clinton set to strike McCain, not Palin
By GLENN THRUSH | 9/5/08 3:39 PM EST
Hillary Rodham Clinton has no intention of becoming a Sarah Palin attack dog - but has no qualms going after John McCain, people close to the former first lady say.
“She’s not the answer when it comes to winning conservative women — she never was — and we’re not going to be anybody’s attack dog against Sarah Palin,” said a Clinton insider. “To be fair to Obama’s people, they haven’t asked us to do that.”
Slamming Palin to win back women already hostile to Obama is pointless, the insider said, because Clinton’s most loyal base is working-class voters, not women in particular. “Attacking Palin is checkers, attacking McCain on the economy is chess.”
Clinton will continue to yoke McCain and Palin to President Bush on pocketbook issues. But sources say that Clinton, who supports abortion rights, isn’t likely to criticize the Alaska governor for her anti-abortion stance. She may, however, question Palin’s record on equal-pay issues.
The Obama campaign, alarmed by Palin’s instant popularity, has given Clinton’s staff a proposed fall campaign schedule in economically distressed battleground states — including Ohio and Pennsylvania — where she did well during the primaries, according to people familiar with the situation.
The former first lady, who is due to appear at an Obama event in Florida on Monday, hasn’t gotten back to them yet. When she does, she’s likely to add a few stops of her own — fundraisers, including at least one in Texas to help her repay more than $20 million in debt incurred during the primary.
“They probably don’t want her in Texas, but, hey, that’s where the money is, so that’s where she’s going to go,” said a source familiar with travel planning.
489 Kelligesq
did you tie that together ? The 8 person on the list ?
#488 prowlland
Be a part of the group?
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#487 - got it, will add it to the email list
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zephyr
“Sure wish Hillary would have an epiphany and join us PUMAS as a 3rd party!!!! She is really my hero.”
If someone tells me where she’s going to be speaking in Florida, if it’s anywhere near, I’m going to try to talk to her, or at least slip her info about that very thing,
kelli
496 BillieJo
well Kelligesq
and i are working on this….not sure what you mean by “being apart”……on your doing it through email ?
“Poor stupid kids.”
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Male?
I ask because I’ve observed that more often than not, when it’s reported that a boy or man achieves a notable accomplishment, the specific gender is included. When something heinous occurs, gender is often genralized or omitted entirely, as in “kids”.
#496 BillieJo,
Hey! I haven’t checked my email yet. Will go do it now.
#479 KUDOS!! MY kind of action! Ignore, do not tune in, cancel, boycott and keep the garbage in the trash and the answering machine on at all times!
Kelligesq read 495
498 prowlland
Yea, I need to do it on email.
Just thought some of us working together behind the scenes might brainstorm and work together on prowls and research, etc.
Keep insulting working Moms. I hold a grudge and I don’t forget.
I agree that the site seems to have lost a little focus since the convention but I think that the core of the PUMA leadership needs a break. For me right now, the site is a way to preserve our sanity in this election. It is very, very sad what has happened to the democratic party but I can’t afford to dwell on that sadness 24 hours a day. If Nobama loses, it will be the fault of Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Kennedy, and Daschle-all senior party leaders who pushed his candidacy for their own gain. They put themselves and their own ambitions above the fate of the country. They sold the formerly-democratic party down the river.
I would like to see the DONC for sale on the PUMA site under items for sale with a product description since ebay took it down.
#500 antifish on 09.05.08 at 6:19 pm
#496 BillieJo,
Hey! I haven’t checked my email yet. Will go do it now.
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Do you have an email address you can post or not?
503 BillieJo
I have a better idea…email me at my name…gggmail
Murphy,
Are you planing on the Liberty Hotel for the 16th and the Hillary debt reducing fund???
#497 Kelli….great….keep me posted. Hope you get a chance to see her! I saw her at her suspension speech in DC and another time in Manasass, Va. Not anywhere near close enough to speak to her. GOOD LUCK!!!
#3 bythelake - am with you buddy. Can not believe what a choice we have to make in this country for POTUS. Those for radical muslims have an easy choice. Those for a hero and heroine who believe in this country, now that’s change I can believe in too. I thought our Gov. Strickland was standing behind our Hillary. But.. he turned his back on her, too. Too bad because I thought he would have made a good VP for her. She did want him at one point, you know. Guess, she was asking the wrong man here in OHIO. I’m not bitter. I don’t even own a gun. But I do have my God above. I’ll keep my faith. And the Repubs are looking good about now.
PROWL Completed!
Scratching post a bit tattered but nonetheworse for wear & tear. Yes my claws were not lethal but they are still sharp, heehee!
Thanks for the catnip, oops I meant prowl, Murphy & mama!
#506 BillieJo,
Yes, antifishpuma at geemail dotcom.
p.s. we shoulda cc-ed mainstream media, lol…
PROWLLAND
8th dead person? 8th dead voter..sorry Prowl, I’m a little dense - dont get it…
I have been wondering with all we’ve dug up, certainly
the FBI must know…why have they let him get this far ?
One person suggested he’s been put up by the agency or the biggest agency - and that could be since Zig Brzienski, Mika’s pappy , was one of his professor’s at Columbia.
It just doesnt make sense, with all his nasty connections why would they let him get this far,,,,,even as far as being a Senator?
Something’s up.
Wouldn’t it be funny, if all us lil women, stand in the way of the worst agency in the world who used to be the shadow govt, trying to outright outfront take over the govt. ?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
anti, you have mail
8 out of 10 people (strangers and friends alike from different parts of the country) I “polled” myself are voting for Obama.
I am not sure what part of the country you are in but I find just the opposite, and I am in Texas, he is pretty much hated here except for those voting on color….
Obama and the DNC can NOT be rewarded for 18 million plus voters being deceived….
NEVER in history was an election determined like this! THE DNC was bullied, but WHO did the bullying, that should scare us all! I would LOVE to know other than the OBVIOUS whose pockets Obama is in!
Obama will NOT win, IF just 10% of us vote for McCain WE will GET our VOTES heard! YOU can NOT be discouraged you have to know this is SO CLOSE that of us 18 million just barely 10% of those of us voting against Obama WILL be ENOUGH for him to LOSE this ELECTION!!!
McCain Tops Obama’s Record-Breaking Ratings
On Thursday night, John McCain’s acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention bested Barack Obama’s record-breaking viewership numbers from last week by 500,000 viewers
#430 TexasTigress, do you have a safe email address you can post so I can include you on the email?
Prowls are done.
Vickie80–you MADE MY DAY with that comment!! one person at a time we can win this thing…
Murphy–I think PUMA is important and when I say I love PUMA I mean it. We are doing important things here, and other than minor ups and downs I find this place to be my heart’s home.
To all pumas who lurk and do not post (esp. Trish)–come back to the pack, lick your wounds, and come purr with us
I called the OBAMA camp today and on my 23rd try I got through. I spent 10 minutes on the phone with them explaining WHY Hillary should not be fighting SOB’s battles. When I asked them what cabinet role she would be getting if he got elected, there was dead silence. I mentioned that perhaps she should have been president and he should go back to his mommy until he learns to fight his own battles. That is when they hung up on me…
HILLARY WON….DONC STOLE IT….WE WILL BE GETTING IT BACK….
NO BO in NOV!! NO BO in NOV!!!
You all do know, dontcha, that Gov. Palin didn’t actually SELL the plane using EBay. She did “put it on EBay” and TRIED to sell it on EBay, but there were no takers. So “she” (or someone in the administration) sold it through a traditional aircraft broker.
‘Just like to point out the facts…
PUMAS
I’d like everyone
I hope you all realize that IF McCain is elected and something happens to him and IF there is a vote of “No Confidence” against Palin (90% probability) Nancy Pelosi becomes the President. Just sayin….
I hope that you all realize that if BO is elected HIllary will never be president and DEMOCRACY will be dead, perhaps forever!!!
Oh, and NO ONE COULD BE WORSE THAN SOB!!!!
NO ONE COULD BE WORSE THAN SOB!!!!
Remember too that with Sarah Palin on the ticket the Republican base who really don’t like McCain are much more excited. The churches have the ability to use their church vans and drive people to the polls to vote. Or set up a vote buddy driving system, or have big gatherings with day care so your kids can play for awhile at church while Mom goes to vote. That will bring out several million more votes most of which will be for McCain. Puma’s I think will easily give McCain 10% of Hillary’s vote.
Kellie - PUMA’s party chair
514 Kelligesq
do you have that list of people that have died…around BO ?
I know you all have your dander up here and really want to make something out of this, but HRC released a statement that NO ONE in the Obama Campaign has asked her to speak on or about anything in FL next Monday.
Maybe that is why you all have received “dead silence” when asking the Obama campaign about this.
someone made up this story just to watch you dance. The Repubs play you folks like a fiddle!! And you fall for it every single time/
WhataShame
CNN ALERT
WOLF BLITZER SAID TODAY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CONDUCT ALOT OF POLLS THIS WEEKEND! ARE HILLARY SUPPORTERS GOING TO PALIN?
POST ALL POLLS HERE AND RESPOND TO THEM!
Firechief and Whatashame:
I guess you’re here to try to maintain “the highest, hardest glass ceiling” for women in place?
No way, No how, NoBama!
Does anyone know where asian4hillary,Trish,KendalBlue,Sheila7, and 18millioncracks,and the many others who posted here forever and now have gone as in have they joined another blog somewhere. I think I may go and check it out.
I have spoken to over 1000 people this week (yes, I talk a lot) and my ‘informal’ texas polls shows 98% voting MCCAIN…..
DO NOT GIVE UP….and I polled anyone I saw that would talk to me (hispanic, black, white, old, young, rich and poor)….
PEOPLE are beginning to see SOB, and they do not feel like they can TRUST HIM….
YES, there is a GOD….
GO GO PUMA!!
#523 Look this crap about Palin not being ready on day one to be President is silly. She is running for VP not President. Should she become President I would guess she would take the standard route of Presidential candidates unqualified to deal with foreign policy (BO) and immediately appoint a VP who is foreign affairs qualified, Colon Powell or Condoleza Rice come to mind and I haven’t even really thought much about it so I am sure there are many others. She would also inherit a fully functioning cabinet. No, this ridiculous charge is just more misogyny from the Democrats who are perfectly happy with an unqualified top of the ticket.
Asian said she would lurk but not post much a few days ago, trish told me she was leaving because something upset her…don’t know about the others…maybe they are resting
#528 WhataShame
Then you better tell the Miami Herald
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/09/clinton-vs-pali.html
You sound more like WhatFool
I smell kool-aide ! #523 #528
Who the the troll out of the dungeon ?
Rugger ..
JENNIFORHILLARY
what’s a party chair ?
people are going to sit on me ?
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now I really have to go out and screw down those shutters,sounds easy but it’s not.
one more comment though
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“”#523 WhataShame on 09.05.08 at 6:41 pm I hope you all realize that IF McCain is elected and something happens to him and IF there is a vote of “No Confidence” against Palin (90% probability) Nancy Pelosi becomes the President. Just sayin….”
vote of no confidence? I’ve never heard of that in America. Britain yes. But we dont have a Parliament, we have a line of succession.
If they dont like someone, they can impeach, ….
if there was such a thing as a “Vote of No Confidence” dont you think Georgie Porgie would have been getting one daily ?
lololo…hee hee hee…..laughing at my own brilliance - duh.
#521 firechief - We know you feel obligated to put out the “fire” in regards to Palin. Please let it go and let PUMAs exercise their freedom to do as they seem fit - we are focused in our cause - No Obama.
Any way you do it, as long as it is NO OBAMA is a good cause.
#430 TexasTigress
# 430 TexasTigress
Count me in.
I agree with you on this:
When we don’t have a productive prowl , what we become is a whole bunch of strong minded , opinionated Pumas trapped in a room -picture that for a second and you will be able to unserstand why the board gets so messy lately .
We need some direction , some focus - a legitimit TARGET . When we are working together , we are a force of nature ! We come back from our prowls with responses and results - our views have been aired on tv and we are giving each other hi- fives . We need that again . - TexasTigress
We are losing too many wonderful productive PUMAs because of it, IMO. How sad.
It is frustrating.
MoveOn.Org has a letter writing campaign to newspapers talking about Sarah.
http://pol.moveon.org/lte…36<e_campaign_id=95
Letters to the Editor are one of the most widely read sections of the newspaper. They are a quick, effective and continuing means of communicating your message to a wide audience.
I spent a month (about 8 hours a day) finding political message boards on the internet and posting the PUMA message. That was last June.
Then, I spent over a week emailing radio talk show hosts spreading the PUMA message.
I do our PROWLS, but there are not enough of them.
# 528 well i guess that is because we are a bunch of stupid silly women who supported Hillary. Right dude?
208 kat in your hat on 09.05.08 at 1:47 pm The prowl is good. But there needs to be a second one.
Addressed to Hillary.
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Absolutely right, I would rather send our concerns to Hillaryy than Obama’s followers, who will more than likely ignore our prowls.
Hillary tell the Obama and his campaign to go fight his own battles. Tell him to stop running to you to be rescued.
#523 WhataShame…I guess if this is the case there would be an even better chance for Hillary in 2012. What a horrible thought though, Pelosi as POTUS!!!!
#499 DancesWithPumas wrote:
“Poor stupid kids.”
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Male?
” I ask because I’ve observed that more often than not, when it’s reported that a boy or man achieves a notable accomplishment, the specific gender is included. When something heinous occurs, gender is often genralized or omitted entirely, as in “kids”.”
Oh I work with kids who need more supervision and help than others. Many are on probation and some just have poor attendance. we are there to help them make better decisions.
“Stupid” is just my frustration coming out. Many have challenges.
I have only done this for 3 years. I was a teachers aid in special ed for 12.
I am just a rent a mom.
Ahh I see we are letting them out for some Puma fun .. don’t play too rough ! they are apt to hurt themselves - kool-aide can do that you know
#521 firechief
No I didn’t know that, but I looked for a source:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/05/plane_not_sold_on_ebay.html
523 WhataShame on 09.05.08 at 6:41 pm I hope you all realize that IF McCain is elected and something happens to him and IF there is a vote of “No Confidence” against Palin (90% probability) Nancy Pelosi becomes the President. Just sayin….
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This statement applies to obiden as well.
jus’ sayin’
514 Kelligesq
Ok im going to water it down so people in here wont jump all over me….lol
8.DARSANO RAHARDJO – Childhood classmate of Barack Obama when he attended a madrassa in Indonesia.
Was found dead in a Jakarta alley way in 1970. Many children at the school attributed Rahardjo’s murder to the young Barack Obama.
It was likely done as an initiation ritual,since Islam demands that a boy spill another’s blood before the age of ten to prove their loyalty to Allah.
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I think that is probably when he was sent to live with his grandparents.
Correction to #535
WhatFool > WhataFool
Hot Air has talked about the Puma PAC today - “RNCC interview: PUMAs for McCain” - and just put up a news link to this post.
Interview:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/05/rncc-interview-pumas-for-mccain/
543 shampoovta
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wasn’t being critical of you, per se.
The “kids” thing was just a handy example. Gotta wonder why so many boys, and boys in men’s bodies, are so destructive too.
#492 New Orleans Puma
You may have my post with confused with #455. I’m impressed with what Murphy is doing here. She’s provided a forum and method of organizing for a lot of very confused people in a very confused time.
My post was about sexist treatment in the Dem party and I am holding them accountable for that, but I support the rights of others to make choices for themselves.
Do your part. This blog is a distraction and helping get Obama elected. You could be doing something constructive instead of lamenting.
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You are right. before I started blogging here I was spending all day posting on other blogs supporting Hillary and opposing Obama. I was spreading all kinds of info. I was posting all kinds of links to info. Now I struggle all day to find nothing on this thread. It is ridiculous. they are so long and full of nothing.
There must be 10 good questions I am waiting for the answer. the answer was probably posted but impossible to find the question again and never get the answer. That is not acceptable.
There is cheap software that solves the problem. We simply will never get anything done or too little done if we continue on this way.
contact Mischka the owner of Tomatoville.com he set up his software in a few mintutes and it was super cheap. You must sign up to read the postings. but this is the kind of structure you want. I am not a software person. but I think he got his software free or at super low price with extras already programmed into it. I am pretty sure he was up and running in no time.
you get a structure and you customise it to your desires. The point is you can have areas and different threads discussing different topics. It becomes very efficient for spreading information.
You can join Tomatoville. the owner lives in Massachusetts the same as Murphy. You can personal message him and tell him what you are trying to do. He will be able to help big time. He might also know other software that might be better for us. I am simply the wrong person to do this as I dont know software at all. I am not a member of Tomatoville or I would try to get the info.
goto tomatoville.com
USCF uses the same kind of software but it cost money to join them. I have seen the same structure elsewhere but not recently as I have not been surfing for new territory.
Now some one might post the needed info and I might never read it on this blog. It is ridiculous inefficient. great with a few users but impossible with many users like we have now.
521 firechief
Didn’t know that. Thanks
#532 jenniforhillary - You are such a crack up all the time. I love your energy and your passion but would hate to be on your bad side…
Keep up the passion - I certainly draw from it.
Our cause of No Obama is bigger than all our pain here.
I will develop a thick skin and will not let any one drive me away or out of focus…
#494 antifish
Thanks for all you do. That is great news. I hope and pray she restores her independence. Free Hillary! I’m kind of a Hockey Mom-Gotta go to a football game. Hope PA delivers POTUS to McCain 08! Nobama!
HA…kelli, nope, just thought with your good attitude you could plan our social events for POST SOB
I know who to contact for software. contact Brian Mottershead he lives maybe in Carlisle MA or very close to Carlisle. He knows the software very well. He has run it for the US Chess Federation. He is a Software Expert. He does software for free for chess, I am sure he will help us out for free. He could get the software and have it up and running in a few minutes.
I remember Obiden during the Anita Hill trauma, and he couldn’t lead an ass much less a country..
And his drinking should disqualify him from running for squat….
OMG on fox they said they are getting swamped with emails from outraged WOMAN claiming Sarah Palin SHOULD NOT be VP because she is a mother.
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Standing in a garage, doesn’t make me a car, any more than signing an email with ‘Eve” instead of ‘Steve’, makes me a woman.
Dances…you ROCK!!
HypoGARBAGE….whether Palin could or could not effectively run this country PALES in comparison to something WE ALREADY KNOW…
SOB couldn’t run the dishwasher so he cannot be POTUS….
#553 WhataShame
Not me. Never.
As I said the other day, Sarah Palin is not worthy to breath the same air as Hillary. Governor Palin wants to teach Creationism in public schools, take away the homeland of the Gwich’in, shoot wolves from helicopters . . .
Please tell me how voting for her is a tribute to Hillary???
194 mimi1020 on 09.05.08 at 1:40 pm IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST 2 TIMES. THIS IS GOOD NEWS GUYS!
******BREAKING NEWS!!!*****
Obama Crimes
Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
Friday, 05 September 2008 12:26 administrator Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08
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mimi1020 Thanks, is their a website that we can add to our favorites and follow the procedure.
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
Do you know when Obama has to report to the court.
WhataShame…
Think about what you’re doing.
This blog is NOBAMA, other than that, everyone’s decision as to how they will cast their vote is their own and to be respected.
Now take your mantra and shove it up your ass.
#464 hillaryistheone
I’ve been a PUMA member since early June.
Have done all the prowls/growls, contacted my delegates/super-delegates, AG, SOS, Governor, and have a call in to be a poll monitor.
I have contributed more than I could afford. I also contributed to pay down Hillary’s debt. Made phone calls and sent faxes I also couldn’t afford. I’m on disability and a fixed income. I’m in the red.
I’ve also been threatend by an NObama supporter who lives right around the corner and have been watched during the night for the past 9 weeks.
What more would you like me to do!?
#553 Sorry that is garbage. Your need for purity makes you sound like a BOite. I was for Hillary and I greatly admire her. I am voting for Palin and I greatly admire her. The reason Hillary will not be President is because of the misogyny of the Democrats , her own party who were so busy participating in the misogyny they did nothing to stop it. It is not Palins fault that Hillary was dissed by her own party. It is not Palins fault that Hillary will not be on the ballot. Although it is very BOite of you to find a woman (Palin) and blame the whole thing on her.
freddie…I could say and WILL say the same thing about you. And yes, you do not want to be on my bad side, not that you ever could.
The only one I feel safe with leading the country right now is Hillary.
Prowl Done
It’s funny how on one questions the fact that Obama is going to get like 95% or more of the black vote, including many Republicans! I remember Sean Hannity asking an African American Republican during the primaries why he was for Obama. The guy said,”he brings Hope”! Hannity laughed and said,” it’s ok you must be proud of this historical accomplishment, and you should be.I don’t blame you”! That’s the only time I ever heard the issue raised. How dare poor stupid women vote for a vagina is what the Democrats say! Are they about to go check with all African Americans voting Obama to make sure they are aligned on all the issues? Of coarse not, The Dems think identity politics are swell as long as they work for them and don’t cost them votes! They are the divisive Party! Just so you know, I’m a more socially conservative moderate Independent and I had a hard time choosing between McCain and Clinton in the primaries. I went with Clinton, and I have NEVER liked or believed in Obama! I have voted Republican before and I have NEVER been attacked for it! I have been for McCain since Hillary was out of the race because I think he’s best for the country! It only became a problem when he chose a woman to be his running mate! Telling me I can only vote with my vagina is not the best way to court my vote! I guess liberals know everything about everyone! Way to go, putting everyone who voted for Hillary into one group with a fascist label!! Not everyone leans hard to either side or agrees with any Party on everything,I don’t! What issues would I support McCain on? Here’s ONE example-he has the best energy plan(The Lexington Project)! Despite the Democratic and MSM media lies it’s a plan that includes EVERYTHING in much detail. Drilling was only added when gas hit $4/gal to ease our pain as we move forward very quickly to ENERGY INDEPENDENCE!! I’ve never once heard the media say his plan is anything but drilling! It must be so nice having 95% of the media doing your campaigning for you! What’s wrong, gotta get Hillary Clinton to do the other 5%? Please visit John McCain.com and read about the Lexington Project! Maybe you want to make a protest vote-GOOD FOR YOU!! Most Obama “followers” don’t know anything about politics–he’s the American Idol President! I saw the protesters outside the RNC on t.v. the other day and many were wearing their Obama “Hope” shirts. A news reporter for fun went around with pictures of all Republican Governors,including Sarah Palin and they couldn’t identify anyone! What was more shocking? They showed them a picture of Joe Biden and they couldn’t identify him either!!!!!! These are the people educating us on issues! hahahaha Maybe you want to vote for a woman—GOOD FOR YOU!! Many African American Republicans will vote Obama this November out of PRIDE! I wish the women of the Democratic Party could have that same PRIDE without having to answer to their abusive boyfriends at the DNC!! It’s your vote,you own it,vote for whatever reason you want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Stand up and fight!Stand up and fight with me!Fight with me! Fight for each other!”-John McCain
GO HILLARY GO
This tomatoville sounds like a good thing. I’m in agreement with you - we need to be able to break into separate titles so people can follow a train of thought through. Much like Clintondems. You can start a topic, receive answers…One of my posts had 55 answers. An uninterrupted conversation. I’m all for it.
By the way,
FLORIDA PUMAS - PLEASE EMAIL ME
we have so many Seniors her who vote democratic…dont know what’s going on with the ZERO and feel no other choice but to vote for him.
I have ideas for a flyer that will turn them right off, and where to pass them out…and would like to organize with Florida PUMAS….I’m going away on the 18th for 3 weeks , so guys, please get in touch…use your PUMA name or I will delete you, right ?
kellig at starspath dot com
heysandy…YOU are my heroine and I did MANY of those things also…
Keep writing letters, keep emailing, and keep talking. If 10,000 PUMAS talk to 10,000 people a day and help them see the light and they talk to 10,000 people the following day and so on and so forth by the GE….
SOB IS SOL!!!!
# 523 WhataShame….what country are you in????
Unless England just took over America…I don’t think we have a problem with a vote of no confidence!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, No, the Obama campaign is sending out the Mean Girls to diss Sarah Palin.
How pathetic will these elitist Mean Girls look attacking a small town governor?
558 jenniforhillary
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Yep. I remember all of those MEN at that hearing. Didn’t have a clue, and of course bonded in service to their ‘manhood’.
#550 DancesWithPumas wrote:
“543 shampoovta
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wasn’t being critical of you, per se.
The “kids” thing was just a handy example. Gotta wonder why so many boys, and boys in men’s bodies, are so destructive too.”
Well to be fair boy develop a bet slower than girls. Honestly my opinion is we baby them. However I don’t know every thing about what happens at home. We can control there school life but every thing ells is unpredictable. Gangs offer responsibility and man hood. I thought may be if they were on a fire crew or park rangers they would man up a bet but wiser heads than I showed me that it is not that cut and dry.
It is a cultural issue. Out here in Ca you also have a sort of Gang mentality that I can only describe as like joining the boy scouts. It is just expected. Some gangs I have learned have a lot of history and geography involved in them. Families going back to the 40’s or 30’s have ben involved.
whoo, tired, it Friday!
TGIF!
Prowl done (and did it ever feel good)!
Open Letter on Sexist Treatment of Sarah Palin
http://donedems.com/front-page/
I’m going to send it to the clueless reporters who insist that the mainstream media coverage has not been sexist.
I just got home from work and trying to catch up on what everyone is doing.
Is anyone writing Letters to the Editor about the August 27th Breakfast Roll Call and/or the lawsuit papers filed on Obama and the DNC today?
I haven’t seen anything on the news about either one and thought maybe I would send a letter out to the 400 plus editors I have in my database.
The problem with obama not addressing Palin directly and of his own accord, is he is
1) Playing victim of gender differences
2) He’s treating women as if they are another species*, instead of citizens, just like men, that he can’t communicate with or to. Does this mean he will be President to less than half the population only?
*a superior one at that
#573 TerryDo…I’ve been getting e-mails from a group of women who I volunteered with for Hillary here in PA. They are extremely negative about Palin. I keep sending them back with reasons why I will not vote for BO and now they are getting vicious with me….This is one of the saddest elections I have ever experienced!
Dances…I remember them all…GOD does too.
I wish women had burned down some cities after that one, but we just knitted…
I really want to respond to a couple of things.
1) Hillary on the stump and what to expect:
As I said previously, Hillary is a democrat, period. If Hillary chooses or forced or somewhere in between feels like she HAS to go on the stump for Obama, then that’s what she does. It is the purpose of a Democrat to pick apart the argument of a republican. Hillary Clinton did NOT engage in personal attacks during the primary. She brought out her message and why she was the best choice. So, given Hillary’s experience, I would expect that she will draw distinctions between the republicans and democrats and yes, between Obama and McCain and between biden and Palin. That is politics. We truly need to differentiate between providing a political arguement and engaging is sexist or even just low-down mud slinging politics. You all cannot expect Senator Clinton to NEVER say a negative thing about Governor Palin. They are opposite in probably all major political issues. So, she will make a point of differentiating herself (which is probably where the Obama campaign is going to use her) from Governor Palin and it will be drawing stark differentiations that will be negative criticism to the Republicans. So, it is naive and unrealistic to expect that if Senator Clinton will be engaged in this campaign to not do her job as a Democrat and paint a picture of Senator McCain and Governor Palin in a negative light and the Democratic ticket in a positive.
My second request has to do with today’s prowl:
I humbly request that in any further prowls that we do we refer to Hillary as Senator Clinton and Bill as President Clinton. Hillary has been so disrespected. They need to see that we respect her as a leader and respect her office. Regarding Bill Clinton, using the term president clinton means that they just didn’t insult the man bill clinton, they insulted President Clinton and that is a whole different ballgame. We can say what we want on here. To me they will always be Bill and Hillary and with Hillary that is part of her appeal because she is on first name basis with the world. But, when we ask/request/demand certain action for her or on her behalf, we need to refer to her as Senator Clinton because we respect her and they need to see that, too.
Okay, getting off my soapbox now.
I really think that now is the time to really pour on the steam and not let up until November.
I see Oprah is taking a hit in the news for not letting Palin on her show. It’s about time.
#517 john on 09.05.08 at 6:37 pm McCain Tops Obama’s Record-Breaking Ratings
On Thursday night, John McCain’s acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention bested Barack Obama’s record-breaking viewership numbers from last week by 500,000 viewers
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I would have never believed McCain could have drawn that in a million years.
We need Hillary!!!
WE NEED LETTERS FROM EVERY STATE!
It is time to get serious on the prowl Murphy suggested in this post:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/03/were-your-delegates-votes-even-counted-on-august-27th/
Letters and Faxes to the DNC Chairperson to every state! Request the listing of every delegate from the state and how they voted on the Ballot of August 27th for the presidential nominee.
They are scared. Don’t Stop!
HEY SANDY
“464 hillaryistheone
I’ve been a PUMA member since early June.
Have done all the prowls/growls, contacted my delegates/super-delegates, AG, SOS, Governor, and have a call in to be a poll monitor.
I have contributed more than I could afford. I also contributed to pay down Hillary’s debt. Made phone calls and sent faxes I also couldn’t afford. I’m on disability and a fixed income. I’m in the red.
I’ve also been threatend by an NObama supporter who lives right around the corner and have been watched during the night for the past 9 weeks.
What more would you like me to do!?”
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What I would like you to do is call the police, have them come to your house so the bastid can see the police car, and make out a complaint against him - make sure the police put it in writing and get a copy of it.
For harrassment, for threatening bodily harm, for whatever it is. THE WAY TO HANDLE BULLIES IS TO STAND UP TO THEM. IF YOU DONT DO IT, THEY, HE WILL JUST KEEP COMING!
now I really have to go do the shutters
580 jenniforhillary
Dances…I remember them all…GOD does too.
I wish women had burned down some cities after that one, but we just knitted…
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Some may have knitted, but from what I witnessed, heretfor unpolitical women had their conciousnesses raised and inadvertantly politicized. You could almost see the lightbulbs turn on over their heads, it was that apparent. There were many (conscious) men who were embarrassed by the proceedings and expressed sympathy.
578 DancesWithPumas on 09.05.08 at 7:16 pm The problem with obama not addressing Palin directly and of his own accord, is he is
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Actually, BO should not even be addressing Palin. I have never heard of a pres nominee being so concerned over the other parties VP nominee.
BO is giving McCain a free ride, and making himself look like a bully on the playground.
#571 jenniforhillary
You are very kind. Thank you so much. You’re not so bad yourself! God bless you.
Hello fellow Pumas, have been gone all day. My son flew in from LA last night in spite of the storm coming.
Murphy, I love the opening statement and that picture is something else.
Thanks #54 bruce55555 for reposting that link for me. I just received a return receipt from my FL AG.
Got this from Phil Berg, don’t know if this was already posted but I am really stoked about this!! Hope it goes somewhere!
Hi Lady Hawkke,
I would remind the SOS that it is their job to investigate or refer it to the United States Senate, Committee on Rules and Administration. (This in response to my telling him that the SOS was putting it upon us to investigate when they have the subpoena and investigative powers)
I just received confirmation that the DNC and Senator Obama were in fact served today, 09/04/2008. The DNC was served at noon and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. All Defendants have now been served so the case can proceed. Phil
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
obamacrimes.com
#68 ClintonDem4Cynthia I don’t know why you keep posting about voting for Cynthia McKinney. We all own our vote but I will go out on a limb and say that most of us will not vote for Cynthia as (1) it is a wasted vote and (2) I would never vote for someone who punched capitol police officer because he didn’t recognize her.
“Capitol Police incident
Main article: March 29, 2006 Capitol Hill Police Incident
On the morning of March 29, 2006, McKinney entered the Longworth House Office Building’s southeast entrance and proceeded past the security checkpoint, walking around the metal detector. Members of Congress have identifying lapel pins and are not required to pass through metal detectors. The officers present failed to recognize McKinney as a member of Congress because she was not wearing the appropriate lapel pin. She proceeded westward down the ground floor hallway and about halfway down the hallway was grabbed by United States Capitol Police officer Paul McKenna, who states that he had been calling after her: “Ma’am, Ma’am!”; at that time it is reported that McKinney struck the officer. Two days later, Officer McKenna filed a police report claiming that McKinney had struck “his chest with a closed fist.”
In the midst of a media frenzy, McKinney made an apology on the floor of the House of Representatives on April 6, 2006, neither admitting to nor denying the charge.
Though not indicted for criminal charges or subjected to disciplinary action by the House, the president of the Fraternal Order of Police said of Officer McKenna, “We’re going to make sure the officer won’t be harassed. We want the officer to be able talk to experts, who can look at his legal recourses, if he needed to.”
579 BarbNOBO on 09.05.08 at 7:16 pm #573 TerryDo…I’ve been getting e-mails from a group of women who I volunteered with for Hillary here in PA. They are extremely negative about Palin. I keep sending them back with reasons why I will not vote for BO and now they are getting vicious with me….This is one of the saddest elections I have ever experienced!
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What they don’t seem to understand we wanted Hillary, we demanded Hillary, we expected Hillary to be the next president.
But after what the DNC, et al did to Hillary, that was when PumaPac decided NOOBAMA. And Protest Vote.
I just hate to think of our Hillary attacking Sarah just because the girlyman Obama can’t speak with or against Palin, and that is because he does not want to be beaten by a women again, just like he was beaten in the debates by Hillary LOL.
The girlyman stands behind women so how the hell is he ever going to be capable of leading?
More Tough Love
Even if you live, breathe, and are on this blog all day, nothing is getting done, to prevent Obama from winning!
Make phone calls
Blog on the major news channels add a comment.
we should be able to send emails at the drop of a hat by filling our action center with the addresses
Answer polls and be sure to try ctrl f5 to refresh screen and to see if you can vote multiple times like the Obots do.
Go to AOL CHAT and give links to here and caucus fraud and spread the word about the lawsuit served today. I personally sent it to my entire email list. I asked them to pass the information along.
Print out the Website for the caucus fraud and send it to your friends and ask them to send it to their personal addresses and friends. Tell 5 friends.
Talk about Palin and get friends interested. Have some envelopes and a phone book? send infor about Obama to them with Infor about Palin on other side to them. Give them information so they can make informed decisions in the voting booth. Don’t let Obama fool them.
I love the talk about fliers. Put them under the flag of peoples mailboxes with a voter registration card.
Go to nursing homes and get absentee ballots filled out.
Print anything here and get it out to some voters. Walk up to strangers at the fall fairs and hand it to them.
Getting information into the hands of the voters is the strongest way to get the job done.
Use facts figures percentages.
I love that some Pumas want to make fliers.
Why doesn’t Murphy create a seperate thread to put flier information into. Then we can add to it and pull from it to screen the information and put it into the actions part of this website.
Make an only flier information thread on this website - not for comments - but for information only to help us make fliers. This way we can get it done fast Why should everybody be recreating the wheel, when we can all add a wheel of our own, then pick and choose from it what we want?
Regarding Clinton action on contacting Seantors for HRC as majority leader:
If you choose to contact a senator to urge their support of HRC as majority leader, please make sure it is a DEMOCRAT. The selection of majority leader comes from the majority party. Republicans would not EVER have anything to do with this. If Republicans were to regain the Senate, then, they would choose their own leader to be majority leader.
hillary is going to need support from Republicans to get healthcare passed and any other major legislation passed that she wants. It will only piss off republicans if we innundate their offices with phone calls that don’t pertain to them.
I would also humbly request that you only call a Senator’s office, if you live in that state. Senators generally do not respond to constituents outside of their state and often do not appreciate having to deal with excess contacts from outside the state.
So… if you have a Democratic Senator in your state, please call them as part of the Clintondems action and request that they support HRC for Senate Majority leader in the next term.
You all cannot expect Senator Clinton to NEVER say a negative thing about Governor Palin. They are opposite in probably all major political issues.
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Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is a lifelong Second Wave feminist… there’s no way she would attack Palin based on gender. The very idea of it just doesn’t exist in the realm of possibilities.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton will campaign on the issues and policy differences between the candidates and parties.
Acorn ongoing investigations
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/why_obamas_community_organizer.html
DancesWithPumas:
You just reiterated my point. I just have been reading earlier on here and other places that people are just going to walk away from HRC if she attacks Palin. I just wanted to point out, that HRC will make what may appear to be negative comments to some because it’s going to be a campaign…. It’s not sexist to draw a contrast betwen your party/self and your opponent or the other party.
82#
I have joined Oprah to put in bold ORANGE “Hillary supporter for McCain/Palin! No empty suit Oprah! PUMA!” on the blog! my name is SoJerzPUMA~
I wonder how long I will last before being thrown out!! lol..
nhforhillary - thanks for the list of action ideas. i believe landipuma was also posting similar kinds of lists. the problem is, this stuff just disappears/gets lost on the blog freeway. what a waste we have no place to put this stuff and build our resources.
#561WhataShame,
We obviously aren’t being moderated at the moment. There is a clear line of succession already established for the presidency. It does not take into consideration your obvious bias against Governor Palin. May I suggest you crawl back under the rock you just left before the hose gets you? Oh, and change your name to WhataBot, while you’re at it.
#521 fire
Yes, you and CNN today have pointed that out today. I thought is was silly when CNN reported that today, it doesnt matter. Sad they felt it did.
#564 DWP said
WhataShame…
Think about what you’re doing.
This blog is NOBAMA, other than that, everyone’s decision as to how they will cast their vote is their own and to be respected.
Now take your mantra and shove it up your ass.
Now that is the Dances I know and Love!
Rock on Sister
Working Mother Magazine has poll on whether Sarah Palin should be running for VP in light of her “family challenges”:
http://www.workingmother.com/?service=vpage/106
Totally off topic, but it is Friday night . . .
Tonight at 9 pm EST is the season premiere of “Dogtown” on the National Geographic channel.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/dogtown
Tonight’s show involves the rescue of the infamous Michael Vick dogs. This series features one of my favorite charities, the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary:
http://www.bestfriends.org/index.cfm?
How can I find out what would happen in my state if I left the top of the ballot blank? I was told once that any incomplete ballot would be destroyed. Not so?
#591 nhforhillary
I agree.
528 WhataShame on 09.05.08 at 6:45 pm I know you all have your dander up here and really want to make something out of this, but HRC released a statement that NO ONE in the Obama Campaign has asked her to speak on or about anything in FL next Monday.
Maybe that is why you all have received “dead silence” when asking the Obama campaign about this.
someone made up this story just to watch you dance. The Repubs play you folks like a fiddle!! And you fall for it every single time/
WhataShame
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Hey WhataShame, we received an email from Obama he want you to know your shift is over, and your check will be ready tomorrow …
What a shame you have to leave just when the Pumas were starting to have fun with you….
But do come back another day to play and don’t forget in November do your Protest Vote!
Hillary Clinton should not being doing Nobama’s dirty work … period!
Considering everything that’s been done to her, I can’t believe some of the comments I’ve been reading.
There are other women “surrogates” who could go out and attack policy issues who weren’t personally gutted by NoName; Clare McKaskill (s), who is in love with Precious comes to mind. Senator Clinton is going specifically to address the nomination of Sarah Palin.
Come on, people!
jhanelb1950
Where do you live? I think that is a violation of constitutional rights to destroy blank ballots.
In every single election if you look, the elections at the top always get the most votes and the vote totals drop off as you go down. that’s because people don’t vote down ballot. So, in my very humble opinion, it should not matter what elections you leave blank: president or dog catcher.
good evening pumas ,
lets keep coming to our site and get some actions going against the one
im sure they donc plan on trying to steal this election
we cant let that happen , im so praying for the mo tape as the october suprise , and the berg suit to side track this sob ,
also love love love sarah and mcain as (fingers crossed actual reformers
this is what our country needs
i beleive hillary would reform our govt if she were potus
Great job, attack media: Palin more popular than McCain, Obamaposted at 11:03 am on September 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Send to a Friend | printer-friendly Rasmussen’s latest tracking poll has some good news for the McCain campaign. In the first tracking poll with post-Palin speech data, John McCain has begun his convention bounce, coming within two points of Barack Obama after being down as many as six this week. And in an ironic twist, Sarah Palin has better favorability numbers than either of them.
According to the internals, Palin now has solid favorable majorities from men (65%) and women (52%). Palin also has majority positive favorability ratings in all age demographics and in all income brackets. She also has majorities among conservatives and moderates, while trailing with liberals and black voters.
One embarrassing result for Obama comes from a comparison of their experience as a preparation for the Presidency. Obama only beats her by four points overall, only by nine points among women, and trails by three among men. She runs within the margin of error in all college-educated demographics, only trailing significantly among high-school graduates and drop-outs. And of course, she’s not running for President; Obama is. It looks like the attack on Governor Palin’s experience backfired on Obama, and as long as he keeps running against the GOP’s #2, he’ll continue to lose.
The final question is very interesting. Overwhelmingly, people believe that Sarah Palin has boosted McCain’s chances to win in November with her acceptance speech on Wednesday. Obviously, this could only get asked of the people in the final day of the rolling poll, and this should give an indication how far the bounce will get. By 58%-10%, respondents felt she helped, a wide margin that appears in every single demographic of the poll.
#534 jenniforhillary
A message for you from TrishfromCanada. I quote:
“I left because I was tired of those who have been through the Hillary ordeal getting trampled on by the republican bullies who have joined recently”
I am off to see the world now.
Since when have “challanges” ever slowed us down or stopped us from doing something? How dare the media or anyone even bringing that kind of bullshit up. I was a single mother with cancer and worked two jobs to raise my kids. Sarah has a whole network to help her, she has a huge family and a stay at home husband.
I know for a fact that it cant be women writing these emails to Fox, and if it is, it must be the friggin koolaid drinking, brainwashed obama cult doing it. Get a f’n clue…who really believes this bullshit?
And where the fuck is the NOW and other women groups….wtf is going on
heysandy:
I don’t disagree with you about Senator Clinton being on the stump for Obama. I would feel much much better if someone else did it. I think he HAS used her and her name enough.
I’m just pointing out that if she out there, she will be delivering speeches that will draw contrasts between herself/Democratic Party/Obama and Palin/McCain/Republicans.
600 prplvette85 on 09.05.08 at 7:34 pm
#564 DWP said
Looks like the pac is starting to split, those that built the community and those that want to redefine it.
Maybe we need two different sites so things could get done instead of wasting time with all the BS.
Just got my McCain yard sign from the mail man and put it up!
#598 antifish & #564 DancesWithPumas
Thank you for the fine examples of how not to speak to a fellow PUMA.
Your posts are disrespectful and only do harm to the point of view that you wish to promote.
Nobama supporters are flooding fox news since Obama went on, to tell them that a woman cannot be Vice President. They are in other countries, what’s a matter,
Sarah too much woman for Nobama?
Tell fox to lay off the woman can’t work and be raising a family. She’s not a single mother and has a VERY SUPPORTIVE family. Her sister has a special needs child and will pitch in. She can handle it.
Looks like the pac is starting to split, those that built the community and those that want to redefine it.
Maybe we need two different sites so things could get done instead of wasting time with all the BS
Evening post up —
Take it upstairs!
Panic on Huffington Post. It’s all Hillary now. Where are the Hillary bashers? Haha. They are very quiet there.
janelb1950 - can’t speak to what you were told, but if you leave the top of the ballot blank you are inviting voter fraud since someone could tamper with your ballot. i would urge you to consider voting for SOMEONE, be it third party, mc cain, or whoever other than bo. that way you can feel more secure that no one can mess with an empty space.
Upstairs is open.
Performed my PUMA prowl today.
The “picture” above is so incredibly offensive. It is hard to believe ANYONE would create that and think it funny. It had to be a pervert.
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Re: Oprah–She has joined the growing group of paper dolls that have sold their souls. She joins Donna and Nancy in my “No Value” box. Couldn’t sell them at a yard sale.
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disappointed in Geraldine Ferraro this morning saying she votes “policy” and will be voting Democratic. Was pleased she mentioned PUMA, but it was almost dismissive.
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Murphy, thanks for everything….just wanted you to know you are appreciated.
611 prplvette85 on 09.05.08 at 7:40 pm ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I know for a fact that it cant be women writing these emails to Fox, and if it is, it must be the friggin koolaid drinking, brainwashed obama cult doing it. …………..
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Truer words were never spoken, the kool-aids are pretending they are concerned about Palin’s children. Perhaps, they should take a closer look at themselves in their mirror..
#613 BillieJo- Are you suggesting I go somewhere else? Why? I have been here since the beginning. I know exactly what our mission statement is. I am not going anywhere. I am here for the long run. I was talking to Dances. I didn’t mean to offend you. I just agree with her. You have to call it like you see it. I see a lot of comments here trying to start trouble. They are the ones who need to go somewhere else.
Sarah Palin thought the luxury jet that her predacessor bought over the objection of the people of Alaska, was over the top and had to go. She put it up for sale on e-bay. The guy paid too much for it and they weren’t able to get a good price and put it in the hands of a broker who sold it. E-bay was advertising the sale, after 2 rounds of no sale, but there were bids, they had a broker sell it. They couldn’t get enough money on e-bay and it was costing the people money to keep it. The man who bought it is filing a suit for $50,000 for maintenance he thinks the plane needed.
A woman that worked in her office said that Sarah Palin is the most ethical and honest person she knows. She is the “real deal”.
If everyone just holds on for a bit, we’ll be fine. Denver just happened and for those who were there, I know you came home in pain. Those of us who didn’t go held out some hope that we’d see all of you marching through a big old cloud of dust with Hillary on your shoulders as our nominee. That didn’t happen.
We just had a shock to our systems with a terrific showing at the RNC by Governor Palin, and some of us were lovestruck for a time. We are dealing with a lot of emotion, mostly frustration that goes back to the Iowa caucus and everything thereafter.
I’m pretty sure that all of us did something to help our cause. The fact that so far it hasn’t been enough to change the lineup for November is sad, but nothing to be ashamed of.
I have learned something from every one of you, even if it was just how not to speak to/treat someone. I have gotten to enjoy a lot of your posts and some of you always put a smile on my face or a warm feeling in my heart.
Work it out, work it through, come back if you still believe in PUMA. God knows I do.
Biden is just one aneurysm away from Pelosi. Ugh. I wonder if they will put Hillary back into the VP race.
The Kissenger article has good information. I am a Kissenger fan. He has known McCain for 30 years.
I read the article and Kissenger is saying that McCain would defend our national interests, and international interests simultaneously, and take action (economically, diplomatically, militarily or etc. has he indicated in his GOP speech), and use policies, and plans to prevent “the fundamental change” from occuring. You secure your national interests first and protect your borders. Then you secure your international interests. Next, the people’s economic and social interests.
I think McCain is the better candidate. He has experience, and a better grasp of foreign policy then Obama. I am chosing between the two candidates that would be the best choice for commander-in-chief, John McCain. You chose the “lesser if two evils”. To make sure that Obama doesn’t win you would have to chose John McCain. I am not implying that McCain is an evil man; to the contray he is a honorable man.
I believe McCain is the better qualified, more ex
#179 Bluejay on 09.05.08 at 1:29 pm
re: #167 murphy
Thank you for your reply, Murphy. I understand and agree with your strategy . . .
I only hope that those of you who are committed to carry out your protest via a vote for McCain/Palin truly understand the policies you will be voting for.
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Bluejay, respectfully, you have been carrying on so like this in every posting, but please, do not insult us. It seems your becoming almost denigrating. Just stop, please. We are intelligent enough to know what we are doing. We are activists with a mission. The way you go on, I feel like it’s just a heartbeat away from holding roe v. wade against us or over our heads to manipulate our behavior on election day, only you are using the environment. You should change your tone and stop coming just short of insulting us. I feel like you have been badgering us about this, and it will not win you many allies and it also makes me wonder what exactly is your agenda here. So I will ask YOU a question.
Are you No Obama or Anti-Palin? You can certainly be both, but at some point, your tearing down of one of our really effective and wholly legitimate choices on election day crosses a certain line somewhere, I think. We know how to think for ourselves, so no need for you to belabor your points and demand answers from us after we educate ourselves to suit your demand for it, so that you can decide whatever it is you are trying to make up your mind about.
You would not be the first to join in the chorus of “those women are off their rockers and shooting their selves in… insert: the foot, insert: the uterus, or insert: the ozone layer, or whatever.
ok pumas
if we want to find out how obingo paid his way to college and law school is very easy to find, specially for journalists
the records are there
if he had loans, grants , scholarships,etc
loans and grants are centralized
is also interesting that he enterd harvard as a foreign student because if you have dual nationality, your entrace is always as an american citizens, among other reasons because you would be taken the place of a foreigner that have numerus clausus
Does anyone know where Hillary will be speaking in FL on Monday?
595 Dem4Hillary
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Yes. I forgot to start my comment with: Eggszactly!
#630 storytellers Where is there a link to that info? That he entered college as a foreigner? Berg needs to know that if he already doesn’t. We need to keep feeding him info for the lawsuit.
I meant to say that I believe McCain is the better qualified, more experienced candidate.
#622 Lin4Hill
disappointed in Geraldine Ferraro this morning saying she votes “policy” and will be voting Democratic. Was pleased she mentioned PUMA, but it was almost dismissive.
I think that all the people we saw as absolute bull dogs for Senator Clinton are going to come on board to the Democratic Party. When I personally know one person who was a member of the DNC and who got a phone call from Hillary at the convention asking them to vote for Obama, I can only imagine the pressure that her staunchest allies must be under. We are NOT going to see a traditional national leader just go all out and say I’m not voting Democratic even though I’m a Democrat. Ain’t going to happen. I’ve been so downtrodden and so disappointed and so angry, that I think we just have to let that stuff roll off our backs and keep going.
I write all the time to various people in high positions. I don’t expect to hear back from them anything like “wow, you’re amazing and I support you all the way.” But I hope, somewhere, in the silent rebellion of say, Terry McAuliffe’s heart, he or whomever reads his official email, get a little warmth for my stance.
AS we all know from various campaigns, especially HRC’s campaign, it’s easy to get caught up in the minor details in the moment. You’re in the middle of it and then you go have a conversation with someone outside who looks at you like you landed from a different planet. You wonder, where have they been. Why is this not reaching them. That’s how it has to be for these national leaders. I think when they hear from us, even if they NEVER respond, because they can’t, that they KNOW people watched, people saw what happened and people will remember and hopefully those people will rally again for Hillary.
So, it’s okay what Ferraro said. Otherwise, she’d be dismissed as a bitter old woman. So, let it go, doesn’t matter.
635 = THANKS NEEDED THAT
630= TOTALLY AGREEE & GOOD POINT
597= AGREE TOO ~
I AM NOT ON TOO MUCH AND MISS A LOT OF GOOD INFO DUE TO SKIMMING. I TOO MIGHT CHECK OUT OTHER SITES IF THE POSTS AREN’T MORE PRODUCTIVE. I LIKED THE CLINTONDEMS ACTION RE hILLARY BING MAJORITY LEADER ( THINK THAT WA WHAT IT WAS) CASE IN PT. IT IS HARD TO DIGEST SO MUCH. JUST GIVE ME THE FACTS. SORRY FOR OFFENDING ANYONE, BUT I AM ALL ABOUT BUSINESS! I BARLEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THE PROWLS & MY PUMA MEET=UP GROUP.
#590 TerryDo
I like that name: ‘GIRLYMAN’. It seems to suit the IMPOSTER! If he finds it intimidating, all the better!
KEEP THE FAITH
greta
#430 Texas Tigeress - I agree completely with you - we are losing at least 4 to 5 a day these days of OLD TIME pumas - we can’t afford to do that - we have to make a stand with what we have available to those that do not know as much about what has gone on as we do -=— we have to have a prowl that is substantial that does makes sense to the average Joe out there - too many here now taking cat snipes at each other and inhouse fighting - will be an implosion before we know it - we have to stick together and get the information that we have and believe in as a group to those that are now aware.
@432 Purplvete - sent my question to AARP regarding his citizenship —
DWP - why are you so negative
DWP - do you realize that i have seen your quotes on so many other sites that really indicate a hate for men - and they are expressing that you can get my email address from Mama or Maryland or Murphy and I will be glad to share them with you directly rather than exposing on of that on this blog.
PUMAS
Listen, guys, let’s stop soothing each other, pick an avenue we want to work on, divide into groups, AND
START WORKING THAT AVENUE.
KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE CURRENT GOAL
TO NOT NOT NOT GET OBAMA ELECTED. and we have only 60 days to do it.
1) I’D LIKE TO BE IN TOUCH WITH ALL FLORIDA PUMAS
PLEASE. I dont believe in leaving flyers around. I hand them out and talk to the people, and I want some Florida
Pumas to do it with me. Let them connect the flyer with a pleasant face and smile…and why we have decided to do what we’re doing -
2) The birth certificate case has to be worked. Collecting information on it. Finding a way to get info on his passports . Connections, connections. Who do you know in the FBI,? in the passport service ? in the state department which handles passports?
3) His rabid muslim connections have to be followed and put into an order….to show people and the media if they ever wake up , who and what he is.
5) the media has to be continued to be bombarded , sooner or later they have to start printing.
6) Murphy has to continue to do tv interviews AND real radio interviews, not just the blog radio, to bring more people awake and conscious.
7)WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT THE EMAILS OF THE “LETTERS TO THE EDITORS” OF ALL NEWSPAPERS
AND GET MURPHY TO PIN IT AT THE TOP, so it’s not hard for us to bombard the media. ? !
Gloria Steinem needs some contact:
In an e-mail to The Associated Press, Steinem added: “I have yet to meet one single human being who was for Hillary and is now for McCain, with or without Palin, but some must exist somewhere.”
If anyone has Steinem’s email, send it to me?
tdo@turndownobama.com
Pumas…Did you see the Bill Maher show on HBO…he really insulted women tonight….he used the word cuntry…..His show needs to be sued.
Here is someone from Sarah home town that seems to be helping out the BO team found this on their web site.
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
From: http://www.washingtonindependent.com/3671/the-reform-candidate
Submitted by Michael Wrightson on Sept 1, 2008
A note to all by Anne Kilkenny
Dear friends,
So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .
Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in
common: their gender and their good looks.
You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts
with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on
any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .
[ This was already posted on Washington Independent comments area,
with a controllable hotmail account, and was obviously meant by the
author to be read. ]
Thanks,
Anne
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.
She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a “babe”.
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.
She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out
there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly
sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
like that of native Alaskans.
Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
She’s smart.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s
surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated”
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t
fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.
There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.
However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.
CLAIM VS FACT
•“Hockey mom”: true for a few years
•“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
school, not since
•“NRA supporter”: absolutely true
•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill
that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships
(said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to
promote it.
•“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life
legislation
•“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has
residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city
administrator to run town of about 5,000.
•political maverick: not at all
•gutsy: absolutely!
•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at
explaining actions.
•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
•”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores
and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city
without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built
streets to early 20th century standards.
•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on
residents
•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city
government in Wasilla’s history.
•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union
doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim
that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen
when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because
few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out
of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no
fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100
or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s
attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in
spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor)
from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of
Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust
for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible
for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are
swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the
population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The
day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the
current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was
5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to
2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90’s.
Anne Kilkenny
annekilkenny@hotmail.com
think Every small town has a town crier like anne Kilkenny.
I should have added IMO.
Oh, that graphic is by GoPsUx. That’s very disappointing. I used to enjoy his posts. What the hell is his problem?
To DU’s credit, there was one infuriated response and it was locked right away.
What awful genie has been let out of the bottle? Obama has a lot to answer for.
Are there any plastic surgeons out there? What do you think? Is it possible that BO had his nose “fixed”? Look at the difference between the following 2 pictures. Usually your nose gets wider and bigger as you get older. His seems to have gotten smaller!!!
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-4-obama-was-endorsed-by-far.html
http://www.starpulse.com/Notables/Obama,_Barack/gallery/EKP-002365/
Is it just me, or is anyone else concerned about Hillary taking Obama up on his plea for her to “surrogate” for him?
If Obama loses this election, Hillary has a clear shot at 2012. And Obama will join the ranks of Kerry, Gore and Dean as guys that could not get it done. If she helps him and he is elected, chances are she’s going to be out of the running until 2016, and than will probably be facing an electorate that has had it with 8 years of Obama.
The other concern is that if she starts in on Palin, she risks losing the support of some of those 18 million people that voted for her. It might be perceived as “sour grapes” - if she can’t have it no other woman can. Or it might be perceived as Hillary selling out and surrendering to Howard Dean and Barak.
I just do not see an upside for her here in pimping for Obama. As far as I’m concerned, the Party trashed her while sending a message that sexism was OK in politics. If Obama had picked her as the VP, I truly believe that he could have skated into the Oval Office.
Am I too concerned about this?
Louis Farrakhan states “Where is God in this? and why now? Who is this young man? (BO)
This reveals Farrakhan’s round about way of stating that the Nation Islam thinks Obama is Islam’s awaited Messiah. Remember their interpretation of Messiah is in fact the worlds Anti-Christ. Since the snow in Kenya this past week, they are believing this is another sign that BO is the Messiah, while scholars would view this as being an sign of end times. We as Americans have been in an Holy War since 9-11. And as stated by someone in Homeland Defense “If people knew exactly what was planned and what had thus far been stopped by Homeland Defense….they could not sleep at night”. I can only provide this link and another link to shed some light. I will be providing you with more information that prooves exactly what we are dealing with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7QUftErt_M
Below is a web-site that is full of information to assist you in studying what is happening. When you watch the video, DON’T FORGET TO WATCH THE SMALL VIDEOS UNDER THE LARGER ONE they reveal some great information.
http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?page_id=1430
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