Were Your Delegates’ Votes Even Counted on August 27th?

FIRST? Good Morning Murphy & my fellow Pumas.

REPOST & CONTINUE TO REPOSTI’m posting this again as I believe we have until the end of the week to try and get Obama knocked off the ballot in all 50 states. . Send by fax so they are aware of what’s coming and then take to P.O. and have letters certified with a return receipt. I’ve already done Florida and so have several others. Someone is keeping a list of states but we are trying to get all 50 states represented. Feel free to use points in my letter but don’t copy it verbatim as I’ve already sent to Mukasey & Friedrich. I don’t think it has any punch if we all send the same letter. I also sent a letter to my Governor, that is up to you if you wish to do so.

Attorney General, Michael B. Mukasey YOUR STATE’S SOS
U.S. Dept. of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW YOUR STATE’S AG
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Fax: (202) 307-6777

U.S. Dept. of Justice
Criminal Division
Attn: Matthew W. Friedrich, Acting Asst. AG
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20430-0001
Fax: (202) 514-9412

Subject: Objections to Senator Obama being placed on ballot in Florida as Democratic Presidential nominee

Gentlemen:
I am a registered (YOUR STATE) (Dem-REPUB-IND) and a long time voter. According to the Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States
I respectfully request that the laws of the U.S. Constitution be enforced. Furthermore, please demand that the Democratic Presidential Nominee Senator Barrack Hussein Obama be required to provide (1) a certified copy of the vault Certificate of Birth; (2) a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance he would have had to take between the ages of 18-21 to regain his U.S. citizenship after leaving Indonesia; and (3) verify that he registered in the selective service (he would have had to do this within six (6) months of turning eighteen (18).
Before Senator Obama is named on a (YOUR STATE) state ballot for the office of President, the foregoing documents must be produced. Unless Sen. Obama produces evidence to the contrary, I believe he:
• Is not a natural-born citizen; and/or
• Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
• Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.
Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers:
• Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada?
• School records list Obama as a citizen of Indonesia. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?
• Explanation of the names he has used: Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, & Barry Dunham.
• Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama,
As Attorney Generals of the U.S. and (YOUR STATE), Secretary of State of (YOUR STATE), and(USE IF YOU SEND TO YOUR GOVERNOR) Governor of (your state) , I request that you investigate the possible forgery of a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth and require Sen. Obama to answer whether he was ever a citizen of Indonesia and further require him to submit all documentation that led up to him being a U.S. citizen. Senator Obama has refused and/or failed to provide proof of his birth as a natural born U.S. citizen. A falsified birth certificate has circulated the Internet and has been proven by experts to be a forgery. Additionally, a lawsuit has been filed against Sen. Obama, Berg v. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083 regarding his qualifications to become President of the U.S.
As a natural citizen of the U.S. and a dedicated American patriot, I am adamant for the security of our nation that we choose our elected officials as required in our federal and state constitutions and laws.
Please require that Senator Obama provide absolute proof that he is a natural born citizen of the U.S. before his name is placed on the (YOUR STATE) state ballot for President of the United States. Thank you.

Ref: post # 1
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Thank you ladyhawkke I will send it out to the people in my state.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/obama-ayres.html

University of Illinois reverses decision, unseals Obama-Ayers documents

#5 tiggboriqua I believe the documents were re=released because Obama probably had them SCRUBBED, like everything else, it just disappears. Hope I’m wrong. I want this guy out and I want Hillary back.

I just got an e-mail from one of my friends who was going to support McCain but now will not vote for him because of Palin’s extreme views. I, too, have strong reservations about her, her environmental record, her stance on gays, she does not even believe in civil unions. My vote is a protest vote against Obama but I believe McCain lost a lot of women’s votes with his extreme pick. Kay Bailey Hutchinson would have been better, I don’t think she is as radical as Palin. IMHO

He may have lost my vote if he had picked KBH… and she is from my state

Good Morning PUMAS!

I’m home today, no work, on the bright side I can prowl with all of you

#10,11 Prowland, I’m pretty sure my son told me she was against civil unions.

Anyway, then they’re both radical. As I said my vote is a protest vote and I will vote for McCain/Palin. Anything to keep the Pretender out.

Wow, what a night! I can’t wait to see Palin! I thought the folks on CNN were going to cry. I hope Chris Mathews gets a warm feeling up his leg tonight!

Hey did you hear on CNN yesterday that obie was being interviewed by a government agency (maybe fbi) they said to get a security clearance. CNN said even John McCain and Biden (who have a clearance will be interviewed)& Palin, I never heard of anything like this. I think someone is investigating obie. Once you have a clearance you don’t have to go through another interview and process. Keep praying…maybe it’s about all those docs on Ayres!

I loved it when they would blast Obama! They are all upset over Leiberman! hee hee!!

did you hear nobama is going on O’Riely thursday,that should be good,Bill will put him on the spot and we can watch him squirm !

I won’t hand over this election to that snake, McCain gets my vote!

Great letter ladyhawkke. I will revise it and make my own version and send it to the Indiana SOS, AG and Gov. He has to be stopped, and I think it’s BS that our nation is allowing this charade to continue without investigating it.

I think it’s HILARIOUS that NY Times’ readers have declined 3.9%. Serves them right.

Let’s please take the issue with boycotting advertisers seriously. That is one sure-fire way to get them to listen. If they know we’re the ones not putting the money in their pockets anymore, they’ll pull thier ads off the air on those stations until something is done about those sexist, biased scum.

hillaryistheone on 09.03.08 at 8:25 am
I got a letter from Obama in the mailbox yesterday. I sent it back with Return to Sender, NO Obama….NOT Now…NOT Ever on the front and back!!
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I do that too, only I send ALL the crap BACK. Of course I write noBUMA on all and never will I give my vote to a phony and an UNQUALIFIED bobble head of the DNC!
NO money, no vote, no support, NOBAMA!!
Mmm I haven’t received any lately………

Wanted to share this email I received:

By Bill Brown of the Billy Graham Team!

Bill Brown, is a highly respected retired member of the
Billy Graham team so, I take his assessment of Obama very seriously and for that reason accept his challenge to pass this on.

I share his concern about the ‘rock star’ image Obama has and watch with growing concern at the celebrity status the media has foisted upon him. Here is hope this informs you in a wise way.
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The Obama Tidal Wave

We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of ‘Change’ or that he says he will be a ‘Uniter’.

The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma. Both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions.

On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler, too, inspired millions and the results were catastrophic.

Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans riding on the Obama Tidal Wave it is just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, but the reality of the ride is what happens when it hits shore.

*Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama*

Obama voted for partial birth abortion.

Obama voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

Obama supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government (quotas)

In 2001 Obama questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing as being too severe.

Obama says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.

OBAMA admitted his use of marijuana and cocaine in high school and in college.

Obama’s religious convictions are very murky.

Obama is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Obama said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations. Why?

Obama opposed the Patriot Act.

First bill Obama signed that was ever passed was campaign for finance reform.

Obama voted to allow law suits against gun manufacturers.

Obama supports universal health-care.

Obama voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.

Obama supports granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.

Obama supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.

Obama voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.

Obama voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

Obama wants to make the minimum wage a ‘living wage’.

Obama voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
(241 votes Demo, 10 votes Republican)

Obama is a big believer in the separation of church and state.

Obama opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid into Soc. Sec. Tax Increase.

Obama voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax which now hits middle income brackets. Tax Increase.

Obama voted No on repealing the ‘Death’ Tax. Tax Increase.

Obama wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax. Tax Increase.

Obama has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded..which is not true.

Obama is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama’s and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride.

If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the very foundations of this Great Country. We have limited time to save America or the Supreme
Court as we know it.

Inaction is action.

If you agree this is important, pass it on. The mainstream
Media will not do it for you!

Bill Brown
Billy Graham Team, Retired

Some ammunition for Prowl

Ask your state party chair if this was prepayment for their delegates and how much has he given them now that they did their work for him.

from http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/efile_search.shtml

(from Aug 20 Monthly filing)
Obama for America is Obama’s main fundraising committee

OBAMA FOR AMERICA disbursements on 7/17/2008
Colorado Democratic Party $108,098
Florida Democratic Party $244,709
Iowa Democratic Party $88,223
Indiana State Democratic Party $83,341
Maine Democratic Party $22,350
Montana Democratic Party $33,939
Michigan Democratic Party $134,062
Minnesota Democratic Party $49,405
Missouri Democratic Party $110,813
North Dakota Democratic Party $37,207
New Hampshire Democratic Party $52,584
Democratic party of New Mexico $57,294
Nevada Democratic Party $1,000
Oregon Democratic Party $30,694
Ohio Democratic Party $208,545
Pennsylvania Democratic Party $174,059
Democratic Party of Virginia $118,907
Democratic Party of Wisconsin $89,942
Washington Democratic Party $42,000
Alaska Democratic Party $46,126

OBAMA FOR AMERICA disbursements on 7/28
Colorado Democratic Party $19,203
Florida Democratic Party $11,268
Georgia Democratic Party $11,243
Iowa Democratic Party $11,165
Indiana State Democratic Party $8,192
Michigan Democratic Party $10,877
Ohio Democratic Party $34,116
North Carolina Democratic Pty $8,968
Oregon Democratic Party $4,290
Pennsylvania Democratic Party $11,760
Democratic Party of Virginia $12,199
Democratic Party of Wisconsin $16,942

Some more interesting contributions:

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
received $3,500,000 from OBAMA VICTORY FUND on July 31
received $7,500,000 from WHITE HOUSE VICTORY FUND on July 8
received $1,500,000 from WHITE HOUSE VICTORY FUND on July 31

DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE ACCOUNT
disbursements $126,160 to OBAMA FOR AMERICA in June and July

19 joanna0902
Hey did you hear on CNN yesterday that obie was being interviewed by a government agency (maybe fbi) they said to get a security clearance. CNN said even John McCain and Biden (who have a clearance will be interviewed)& Palin, I never heard of anything like this. I think someone is investigating obie. Once you have a clearance you don’t have to go through another interview and process. Keep praying…maybe it’s about all those docs on Ayres!
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That made my day !!!

Isn’t it interesting how a woman’s personal life becomes fodder for the media and “strange” gentleman like the one in your video. Why didn’t anyone ever question how Bobby Kennedy could consider running for the Presidency with 12 kids and another one on the way, and also with a disbled father requiring 24 hour per day care. Ah, double standards.

#9 ladyhawkke on 09.03.08 at 8:06 am

As a gay woman, that particular issue is very important to me. Palin in fact is against “gay marriage” (it’s a long hard fight for us). She did, however, allow domestic partnership rights for State of Alaska employess. As with everything, remember, it is a process. Unless it’s Bush, with the VETO stamp attached to the end of the wrist, ANY and all legislation goes through a process. I fought and fought hard in the state of NJ, just to get Domestic Partnership in that state. One thing at a time.
I for one, believe that she has more to offer, than you know who, and she actually ensured my vote for McCain.
I’ve said it before, I believe I know what McCain will do in office. I haven’t a clue what Mr. BOnehead will do. I will take the lesser of the two evils. One of the two of them will be President. None of the independents, green party, etc, will make it. I will do my part to ensure BOnehead does not make it.
NO Thing on Top
No Way
No How
NO BAMA!

Item: A CBS News / New York Times poll finds that 48% of Republican delegates support either gay marriage or civil unions for gay people.

Item: The Log Cabin Republicans, after some dawdling, formally endorses the McCain-Palin ticket. Said LCR president Patrick Sammon in a statement:

“On the most important issue that LGBT Americans faced in the last decade-the federal marriage amendment-Sen. John McCain stood with us. Now we stand with him. Sen. McCain is an inclusive Republican who is focusing the GOP on unifying core principles that appeal to independent voters.”

The media is DISGUSTING! I guess it doesn’t matter if your a democratic woman or republican woman, the MEDIA is responsible for trashing WOMEN!

I agree with BOYCOTTING advertised products from these trashing news stations as well as magazines! Hit them where it hurts, the pocket!

Remember one thing, WOMEN are the MAIN shoppers in a home. We’re smart, we’re resilient and we’re not going to take this anymore!

First, we stand up for Hillary who really got beat up and now the outrageous attacks on Sarah Palin?

Our country is in a state of denial and I for one and sick and tired of it!

omg you wont believe this Chomes emailed me back

Senator Joe Liberman thinks this is a good season for Democrats to cross the floor and vote for the Republican ticket.

McCain/Palin

This is a good season for a Protest Vote by (Nothing On Top for Democrats) do not vote for the top Democratic Ticket..

The Democrats ruined our excellent chance to win the White House with Senator Hillary R. Clinton, but the DNC, the RBC, Pelos, Reid, Dean and other corrupt democrats selected Obama instead of Clinton.

Show the dictators this is America not some third world country.

Protest Vote!, Protest Vote! Protest Vote!

Wow, I was a supporter and admirer of your movement and what you all were doing. We don’t agree on everything but I respected your guts and your tenacity. But because I am of a different political persuasion, I am no longer welcome here. That’s basically what I saw in that post. I felt that what you all were doing was important because we all are so quick to pre-judge one another and we really don’t listen to what each other are saying. I believe that most Democrats love this country just as much as most Republicans. We all want to help. We just have different ways of helping. I know that all Democrats aren’t crazy liberals and all Republicans aren’t bigots. These are all stereotypes that have been fed by the media, but according to the post, I am not welcome here because I am just an admirer with respect for what you do, but I’m still not a Democrat. I don’t expect you to convert to being a Republican. I don’t try to “convert” anyone. If you want to know my view on it, I’ll tell you, but I respect everyone’s right to be whatever they want to be. But what about me? Am I not welcome?

Nijma – She was there in her roll as a CNN contributer .

#47…I didn’t get that interpretation.

Here’s what I just emailed the Chairman of my state’s democratic party:

I’m wondering if you could provide me with some information. I’d like to know how our (State) delegates voted during the “breakfast” vote on 8/27/08. The reason I’m inquiring is that I voted in the primary, and I was under the impression that pledged delegates to a convention were there to represent the votes of their constituency.

The Green papers (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml) lists the total pledged delegates going into this convention as: 1,747.5 (39.55%) for Obama and 1,730.5 (39.17%) for Clinton and yet the floor vote was: 1,549.5 (35.07%) for Obama and 341.5 (7.73%) for Clinton before it was halted.

I’d like to know why there is such a discrepancy and why our votes were not allowed to be counted. It seems to me that this is a flagrant violation of one of democracy’s most fundamental principles, and I’m confused as to why it was so violated by the Democratic party.

Please don’t use the “unity” argument; I don’t recall that that was an option on the ballot when I voted during the primary. I voted for one of the two candidates and I want to know if my vote was represented as it should have been.

Any information you can give about this would be most appreciated.

If you don’t vote on top, they will look at how the other votes were cast and claim your intention was to vote for the top of the ticket…it’s a vote for Obama…an Obot thought of this for sure.

When the chads were in question, they looked at the rest of the ballot to determine what the actual intention of the voter was in order to count the votes.

#51 CTKEY on 09.03.08 at 9:29 am #47…I didn’t get that interpretation.

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I got that feeling, and I am a Democrat and have been all my 58 years

I sent this to Berg

New MC ad coming out at noon addressing the msm and bloggers for smearing Palin .

Women can’t be president or vice-president. The media will NOT let it happen. Forget sending girls to school, be sure to tell them that they will NEVER be president!

When women attack other women who want to aspire to be the Vice-President, they are telling my children and theirs, that it will NEVER come true. Throw away your DREAMS because you can’t be anything you want when you grow up! Forget college, you are NOT worthy to run this country.

Is this the country we live in now?

Rablerouser – I’m using your letter ( with a few alterations ). Hope you don’t mind but you said what I was going to.

I predict that this will be the most fraudulent election ever . . . judging by previous actions and caucus fraud by the Obamabots.

Has anyone seen the latest nonsence showing McCain/Palin with McCain having a “milk mustache”?

Don’t know if anyone has posted/read this article yet. Just more of Nobama hiding his record. I wonder what type of political science courses he took….???

http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/?verify=o2swzn3b

And they are scared of us:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/theyre-scared-of-puma-yessss/

Powlland , you may know this , what kind of HARD evidence does Berg have that XO traveled with an Indonesian passport ? We need that info . So far , I have only seen it referenced and never have I seen it substantiated with records . That would be great to present to our SOS in Tx. and it would be even greater for Oreily to confront him with it on live tv !

Letter to
Oreilly@foxnews.com
Subject: Obama during the Rep. Convention

WHY are you doing this…. oh I forgot ratings !!!!!!! Scr*w the ratings!!!!!!!!! you just lost me… I wont watch you show anymore !!! McCain respected the Dem convention… but i guess i can’t expect anything less from the Chicago thug !!!!

71 TexasTigress
I think he said that in his book… not sure though

This was what was in my letter :
AND – It is know that from the age of 20 to 21 Barack Obama traveled from the U.S.
to Pakistan using an “”"”"”"Indonesian Passport”"”"”"”. I propose to you that if he was
a “natural” born American citizen he would have been using an American citizen throughout his life.
Plus if you have dual citizenship that makes him disqualified by law, ineligible to run for office.

bythelake on 09.03.08 at 9:15 am The media is DISGUSTING! I guess it doesn’t matter if your a democratic woman or republican woman, the MEDIA is responsible for trashing WOMEN!

I agree with BOYCOTTING advertised products from these trashing news stations as well as magazines! Hit them where it hurts, the pocket!

Remember one thing, WOMEN are the MAIN shoppers in a home. We’re smart, we’re resilient and we’re not going to take this anymore!

First, we stand up for Hillary who really got beat up and now the outrageous attacks on Sarah Palin?

Our country is in a state of denial and I for one and sick and tired of it!
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OMG you are a minieME!!
Exactly—————-BOYCOTT(girlcott) all!
No newspapers no products advertised therein………pocketbook will get their attention.
I do not subscribe to cable TV……..they spew garbage 24/7 who needs that BS in their homes, not me!

78 TexasTigress
I sent the letter to Berg… but he hasn’t emailed me back… that was the first time i had emailed him…

80 TexasTigress
Then what the H#ll are they saying in that letter… its like they didn;t even read it !!!!!!!

82 TexasTigress
Rocking Texans… Dont mess with Texas

Is there proof he used his passport ?

#80-TexasTigress and #81 – prowlland

That’s the frustrating part. We are trying to do the work that should have been done by the DIMWITS AT THE ONC… how to get proof that they will look at is the frustrating part…

I cannot remember who said to boycott all the MSM sponsors, but that’s definitely a good idea.. ALONG WITH SENDING LETTERS OR EMAILS TO THEM TELLING THEM THAT’S WHAT WE’RE GOING TO BE DOING…

it’s no hardship for me anymore not to turn my TV to CNN or MSNBC.. but I want to let them know I am doing it… I think we should deluge their email boxes and snail mail with letters and emails saying we’re doing it!!!!

It could be an easy thing to do … get up, brush your teeth, wash your face.. send your emails to MSM and others.. LOL

84 TexasTigress

Maybe you would have better luck
This is who i sent the letter to :

Elections@sos.state.tx.us

I personally know quite a number of Republicans who voted for Hillary in the primaries and are sympathetic to our cause. They have witnessed all the sexism and the race card being played and feel in concert with us regarding the detriment to our society. I said it before but the party lines are a bit blurred this season.

So, I DO welcome here anyone of any either party persuasion. I am an Independent but have always voted primarily democratic. I know I won’t be voting back in the Dem. Gov. Kaine of Virginia ( if he runs again)because of his early and unsubtantiated support of NOBO.

And I don’t want my taxes raised….especially the capital gains tax. Thanks to those who have elightened us on Palin’s stance on employee benefits for gays in Alaska. I just copied that to a lot of my gay friends.

91 prowlland I have written and called them 800 times , but I have no proof . Thats why I keep asking if Berg has the hard evidence we need . Your letter was PERFECT all it is lacking is the hard evidence – without it , we have nothing …..

90 TexasTigress
someone needs to follow up on this… I dont have the smarts to do it !!!

I am a strong supporter of womens rights in the Democratic Party. However, I am also a strong supporter of womens rights in the Republican Party. As a supporter of womens rights I do not love one and hate the other. I must learn to love all.

The object in life is to come to love ourself. that is the ultimate goal of life on earth. We are all ONE therefore in order for me to love myself I must love everyone else. Then and ONLY then will I come to love myself.

I oppose all ideas that Palin is not suitable for office. I support her for office 100%. I would vote for Hillary 100 times more than Sarah but I do not have that opportunity.

I need to keep my eye on the prize. The prize is the defeat of Obama. First logical conclusion is that the only way to defeat Obama is to have someone else win. Therefore I must vote for McCain.

A Republican white house with a Democratic congress is probably good at this time. all one party is too big an opportunity for big time corruption and more old boys club. I support the idea of a divided washington for the next 4 years.

Many issues that people do not like about Palin will never come up in the next 4 years. There is not going to be a change in abortions or many other issues. We will have Hillary back in the white house in 4 years. The world is not coming to an end. let us put aside our fears and vote for McCain and Palin. This is the only road to success in stopping Obama. Do NOT be side tracked by opposition to some view of Palin. She is only the VP and her view will not become law.

When it comes to making decisions I believe and trust Palin to make good decisions. She listens well and is very practical and objective. She makes decisions based on what is best for the country. Exactly the kind of decisions each of us would make. I am sick of the decisions of corrupt people voting only for which company pays them the most money.

Understand that of the many decisions over the next 4 years we will get decisions bases on what is best for the country. some decisions will be different than what I want or you want but they will be honest decisions. maybe we are wrong sometimes who knows. All of this is so much better than having corruption make decisions.

This is fundamental to all politics. We have a clear choice to vote for honesty or corruption. I will vote for honesty in John and Sarah over the guaranteed corruption of Barack and Joe.

Better to have a house wife making decisions then a drunk. I do not want a person like joe with an alcohol impared mind making decisions. not sure barack stopped his drug use either.

MURPHY -I just spoke with with Stephanie , the TX Dem. Party Convention Director . She told me Tx. Went 124 Obama and 96 Clinton . She doesn’t have the certified roll call back from Germond which lists the dels and how they voted , but will publish it as soon as she gets it .

PROWL DONE !!!

MURPHY -I just spoke with with Stephanie , the TX Dem. Party Convention Director . She told me Tx. Went 124 Obama and 96 Clinton . She doesn’t have the certified roll call back from Germond which lists the dels and how they voted , but will publish it as soon as she gets it .

Palin’s social security has been released by BO supporters.

Ooops, meant social security number.

Is there nothing we can do to highlight the fraud of our votes not counting? We have attorneys on most sites. Have my civil liberties not been compromised?

Is it possible to have a class action suit? I am not content to hope that BO loses in November. If he does, it will not be attributed to the electorate protesting the election. It will be attributed to racism. I can see a Diddy/Ludacris rant already.

I would love to think the news outlets would do their job and expose the DNC. But to believe that if we just air the truth, they will run with it, is wishful thinking, in my opinion. That is not going to happen. They are all
up in Alaska trying to figure out how many times Bristol had sex before she got pregnant.

Every day I think I could not be more disgusted. And every day I am.

Why is the burden of proof on US? When HE is the one running for President?

107 WolfmanJack
I dont know.. Dont think this will ever fly… but it if there is proof… then it means that he deliberatly frauded the whole country… because he is a Constitional lawyer… he should know what is is doing.

#102 TexasTigress how do you find ones State Party Chair ?? Phone book or website??

WolfmanJack _ EXACTLY !!!! You would think the US government would be all over this !!! This is sooo WRONG !!!

what did they find out from the SS number ?

(((sly))))

http://www.ohiodems.org/site/c.mhLRKZPCLmF/b.3630699/

This is your state party . There is a ‘contact us ‘ at the top

OMG! Is there no end?

#63 – YOU ARE SO RIGHT!

Concerns Raised about Palin and PMS
September 3, 2008

As McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin for vice president continues to be engulfed in controversy, new questions have been raised about her fitness for office. “The fact that Sarah Palin has just given birth, shows that she is still menstruating,” explained noted feminist author Nola Wright. “Because of that, once of month she will suffer cramping, mood swings, and adopt a temperament that may be unsuitable for public office.” “There’s indeed a reason for concern, “ said Dr. Karen Karlson of Seattle, Washington. “’That Time of the Month’ is a difficult time for many women and I would expect it to be no different for Mrs. Palin”.

Palin’s defenders point out that she is 44 and is moving out of her child-bearing years, but others still profess their doubts. “She may be moving out of her child-bearing years, but she is also moving into menopause, “ replied Dr. Karlson, “and for many women menopause is more debilitating than PMS. I think concerns have to be raised about her fitness for high office for many years to come.”

#105 Sorry ….They are were reporting it on Fox….not publishing on FOX. Typing too fast.

122 scarlet Please post the link to that article .

FOXNEWS JUST REPORTED

SARAH PALIN smears are a “coordinated” effort by Democratic operatives with the goal to throw Palin out of the running within a week!

Obama is the head of the democratic party…I’ld say guilty by association! He’ll do anything to get elected, I believe it now!!! Smears, lies, attacking his opponents children and babies!!!

The news media is making me sick, sick, sick. They are horrible. They are sick! Throw up! I’m disgusted by them! They make Americans look soooooo bad!! These slimey, lowball, attacks, will be remembered in November!!! I just can’t ever consider voting for Obama in my wildest dreams, not now, not ever. No way!!!
Sarah Palin will get my vote, in sympathy.

What the news media is doing is just wrong, wrong, wrong!!!

122 scarlet

OMG! Okay, can they tell that to Condi Rice?

McGovern’s supporters were belligerent and overzealous too. And down right scary. One reason why he lost.

The more they do this to Palin the MORE VOTES McCain will get!!!!!
I HOPE they note the CHANGE they are bringing to the MAJORITY of voters, WOMEN!!

107 Wolfman
I’ve come to believe EVERYONE in power knows he’s not eligible under the constitution to be Pres, and Pelsosi is just planning to pass a Senate resolution declaring him to be a Natural Born Citizen once he gets elected, “for the good of the country.”

The Dem’s sponsored a senate resolution saying John McCain is a citizen. It wasn’t ever a question, this wasn’t needed.

“Yesterday, the Senate passed a resolution declaring that McCain is a natural-born citizen. The resolution was passed by unanimous consent. More surprising than the result, however, was the fact that the bill was written and submitted by Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO), and co sponsored by both Democratic presidential candidates, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL). Politics makes strange bedfellows.”

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/05/01/clinton-obama-sponsor-mccain-citizenship-bill/

I read somewhere a draft of language that Obama had personally tried to add to the resolution, that did not relate to John McCain in any way. Can’t find it now.

A poster on a Republican group wrote this:

After seeing the perverted coverage of Sarah Palin, it is time to give the media and their left wing bloggers a taste of their own medicine. We need to establish and fund a web site that compiles information about the personal lives of the major media and the left wing bloggers in a consolidated place.

It should be modeled on YouTube so that anyone can submit a video of past predictions, compromising pictures and other embarrassing items in their past. We all remember how Larry Flynt offered to pay a $1,000,000 bonuty for Republican dirt. We don’t need to go that far, just provide a forum for them.

The Web Site could be called MediaHypocrites.Com (if this is not already used). Since the media controls much of it’s own destiny (except the ad revenue flow), the best way to get back at them is through humiliation. Make them look like the Emperor Without Clothes to the average American.

And the beauty of this is that they also fall under the ‘Public Figure’ category, making them less able to sue for defamation.

—
I will try to follow this group and see if they do anything about it.

#119 Marie and PUMA’s

I think this is what she was referring to regarding US magazine. This kind of media makes me ILL. If it’s one thing I cannot tolerate it is injustice or being unfair..

http://michellemalkin.com/

I only post this website because it was their lead story.

-FMR

#128 nhforhillary on 09.03.08 at 10:41 am FOXNEWS JUST REPORTED

SARAH PALIN smears are a “coordinated” effort by Democratic operatives with the goal to throw Palin out of the running within a week!
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I heard that also. I have a feeling this is going to backfire big time on the Dem’s. And they thought Hillary was a problem for them. This shows you how afraid they are of Palin. BO is trying to do to her what he did in Chicago.

Sarah I now I have your back……..I will now CONTRIBUTE to the McCain campaign b/c of your pain.
This is a very difficult thing for me to do but the devil OBuma made me do it!

144 HP Boston
Can he still take contibutions ?

OH and Sarah I know you will cause them great distess when you WOW the world with your speech tonight…GIVE EM HELL!
It will make my donation extra special!!!

Now they are vetting Sarah’s dau’s b/f Levi. This is getting sickening and I hope someone can put a stop to it soon.

5pm on fox – hour long special on the smear campaign against Palin . Mcs camp and xos camp will be there ….

150 Middle age female
Acually it is just swaying female to her side… they are cutting for their nose to suit their face…

151 Rabblerouser
good idea..

First I want to thank all of “you” PUMAS,

I am a 38yo/m Blue Reagan Democrat from CO,

This election, I am going to enthusiastically cast my vote for John McCain & Sarah Palin.

I do not need to say anything about John McCain, his heroic character speaks for itself and I believe it when he says he will put the people first, he will!

Sarah Palin will not only “break the ceiling” for women, she will also break the ceiling for “We the People”

This may be the only chance that we the people ever have of getting and “honest look” into the corruption in Washington.

We need Washington to be held “accountable” to much higher standard and Sarah lets “small town” America have a stake in the direction that this country is headed to in the future.

- Sarah in a Washington outsider
- She has an impressive track record of reform
- Solid moral character
- And a refreshing perspective on “family values”

Sarah Palin should be viewed as an example for us all.

I believe Sarah I a person of strong moral conviction, and has shown that she has outstanding judgment in times of her own families personal crisis.

John McCain and Sarah Palin have shown me that they have the best moral compass to lead our great nation into the future.

They do seem very afraid of the Palin nomination. McCain was SUPPOSED to pick an old white guy. Then they would be chanting” two old white guys, two old white guys”. Had he picked Colin Powell, they would have called it “playing the race card”.

He was also SUPPOSED to be an old man drooling on himself. He is at least as sharp mentally as Obama. And maybe 72 isn’t so old anymore. Of course, Obama’s college-kid base thinks 30 is old.

McCain isn’t following the script written by the Obama camp. They underestimated him. And over-estimated their Messiah.

Oh, & btw everyone, good morning!
BBL…

158 StaunchPatriot
I was a Reagan Dem also… i can remember telling my Dad ..”but Dad he use to be a Dem”…lol… so he seemed ok with that.

155 HP Boston on 09.03.08 at 11:03 am prowlland on 09.03.08 at 10:57 am 144 HP Boston
Can he still take contibutions ?
?????
I will send money to McCain and used tampons to the DEMS!!!!
Ah so what, delete if you must. It makes me feel better!
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That is too funny! That is what we should do, find out the Democratic office where where they receive donations and everyone mail a tampon… Brilliant! LOL

163 TexasTigress on 09.03.08 at 11:06 am Does anyone know what article scarlett is referencing in #122 ???
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Not yet, apparently it is her word for it so far….

165 SouthJerseyPUMA
Maybe he would like to see our letter about BO dual citizenship ?

First he TRASHED Alice Palmer, Then he TRASHED Hillary, Now Palin. Obama hate for women is displayed in all his actions, from refusing to talk or go and see his dying mother. Letting his grandmother live in the SLUMS of Hawaii. Ladies if you don’t bond together and let your voices be heard this will continue to happen. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, or NBC will not air you’re outrage, my suggestion is you send thousands of emails to FOX NEWS letting them know you’re a (Democrat, Independent and Republican )women and you reject what Obama and the DNC party is doing to Sarah Palin. Don’t stay silent, because silence means consent.

#158 StaunchPatriot

Sadly, I’m afraid that Sarah Palin may break more than the glass ceiling if she is elected. She may also ‘break’ the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge if she is given the chance, and there is no way I could ever support that.

Come back, Hillary – - you’ve left me in such a predicament.

Remember the words of Madeleine K Albright “There is a special place in hell for women who do not help other women.” I’m sure Gov Palin is tough and can take care of herself but where is the compassion for her children? I forgot – only O’s family is deserving of consideration.

#174 Bluejay

Amen to that.
I cannot in good conscience vote for McCain Palin, either.
Looks like I may leave the ballot ‘blank’ for President, but will vote for the good ones I know I can count on down-ballot.

We are in a hell of a mess.

#147

I have been on so many sites today that I can’t remember where I picked up the excerpts on #122 and I could just kick myself for forgetting to post the link. But, I will continue to look so just give me some time.

I guess Michelle Obama is again fair game?

Or does Obama “not see it that way?”

What a horse’s ass.

Lieberman on Obama
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_lieberman

This has to sting the BO camp just a little. Where was the Republican supporting BO at the Dem Convention? I guess BO’s Republican supporters were busy that night.

Have a good day,
Lara08

As far as ANWAR, the Senate and House votes not to drill in ANWAR were driven by voters in their home states who opposed it. Even a number of conservative states had majorities who opposed drilling.

BUT, if gas prices make people in many states change their minds (which I think is happening) then maybe drilling in ANWAR will go forward.

Maybe Palin has nothing to do with it?

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

NEW THREAD on o’reilly interviewing NNNNobama.

it’s my opinion that it would be wrong to stand by and watch the obama campaign destroy another woman ..this fight has become a greater matter of principle and not individual issues..
the greater wrong would be to not vote for mccain and palin and allow obama to become president ..
we need to look beyond individual issues and look at the big picture which is obama as president..that is the worse thing that can happen..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN54Fb9dLKs
Newt on MSNBC

Way to go Newt

And to think I used to hate him and his Contract On America

What is the world coming to

NYT retracts story
The original story
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02vetting.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin
Conservatives rallied around Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, who is Senator John McCain’s choice for a running mate, after the disclosure that her unmarried teenage daughter was pregnant.
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: September 1, 2008
Palin Disclosures Raise Questions on Vetting

The retraction
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/?scp=2&sq=alaska%20independence&st=cse
September 2, 2008, 10:32 pm
Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member
By The New York Times

I am a Clinton Democrat and will always be.

185 LizzyinCT
we have overload the website… its down

#182 WolfmanJack on 09.03.08 at 11:22 am I guess Michelle Obama is again fair game?

Or does Obama “not see it that way?”

What a horse’s ass.

He is opening the door for the Whitey Tape he is cutting his own throat.

looks like o’reilly is playing along with obama by allowing him on his show today to blunt sarahs speech with his phony lying propaganda..
nice going Bill– having Obama on the same day as sarahs speech …so much for your SPIN FREE ZONE

I haven’t read all the post yet so I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but do you mean to tell me that someone can be on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and not have a security clearance?

202 october surprise
Yeah after i got over my mad fit… i got to thinking… he would be on before the speech….

#122 scarlet I was reading your post with my jaw dropped. I am dumbfounded by that piece of trash. Wow. First I felt angry, and then I was almost in tears. This is what our country has become? SOOOOO SAD and sick.

I have so many thoughts I am having trouble organizing them in my head!

First of all, I am still here and as commited as ever to NOT vote for Obama. I have NEVER even considered it for one second. NO way!

Joe Lieberman gave an excellent speech last night, and if anyone missed it, you should look it up on YouTube. He spoke directly to democrats and independents. Of course this is politics, and the idea is to win the most votes, but I know he truely believes in his message.

The video in the previous thread ( I can’t believe I made it through the entire 6 mins) is a disgusting display of sexism and ageism. It is so sad he does not realize how ignorant he comes across. Sick-o.

I wonder what the Clintons are making of all this? I’m sure Hillary feels for Gov. Palin. The attacks on her are outrageous and totally uncalled for. I think, and hope, the attacks will backfire.

One more thing. I am extremely angry at the tactics used at the D Convention. Not counting the votes? Afraid they were too close? Silencing the millions of voters who took the time to make a choice? Where is the political equality? Why bother voting? There are many who feel it is a waste of time, and this just helps perpetuate that feeling. WOW. I am stunned. They really did have their “chosen one” and nothing was going to get in the way of his nomination.

OK, I need to step down off the virtual soapbox for now before I get a headache!

GO PUMAS!!!! (and to me that includes anyone and everyone who wishes to be one and help the cause)

SOME GOOD NEWS

MURPHY SHOULD CALL HIS RADIO SHOW

Radio Host Jumps Parties After Hillary Debacle – 1 new
——————————————————
Just an FYI: Nowhere to post just good news. Steve Corbett, a rabid Hillary
Clinton stalwart who packs clout as the biggest talk-show host in northeastern
Pennsylvania, has abandoned the Democratic Party to shout across the airwaves:

“Nobama! Nobiden! Nobull!” [link] – Tues, Sep 2 2008 3:00 pm

why dont o’reilly have someone on exposing the obama bill ayers terrorist –rezko—rev wright–farrakhan connection ..??
oreilly is an egomanical rat..all he cares about is bill o’ reilly..the man has no principles at all

204 BigCatLover
No kidding.. I almost emailed the FBI…someone said don’t do it you will have a file…lol..i told them i already have one.. i think… hubby works for the gov… it took 6 months for them to do a background check on us… So I think it would be in a FBI file.

O’Reilly Goes Nuts on NBC/MSNBC for Extreme Bias against Hillary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2t156yd8s4

#202
Sarah’s speech is tonight. Obama’s interview is tomorrow night.

I love how NOW, after months of the DNC blasting Hillary Clinton and decades of misogyny, the MSM is coming around to talking about (however slightly) sexism in America.

Have I not been beating this drum since I arrived here? Maybe I am just ahead of the curve. That cracking sound you just heard was my arm breaking…

Obama’s camp will claim that O’Reilly treated him unfairly. It will be an attempt to blunt criticism of the press over its handling of Palin.

Boo hoo woe is me. Big bad O’Reilly asked me a tough question….

obamas intent on going on oreileys show is one thing and one thing only..to spread his lies and propaganda to destroy sarah palin..
oreilly knows this..
just watch oreiily bend over for obama..he’ll get that same TINGLE chris got..

#198 prowlland

Awesome !!!!!

REPOST FOR ALL TRYING TO KNOCK 0 OFF BALLOT:

#965 Kelligesq on 09.02.08 at 10:35 pm
GOGANDOLF , PROWLLAND, LADYHAWKE & ALL PUMAS

If I may,
I have had “business”with Attorney General Mukasey when he was the Chief Judge of Southern District Federal Court in New York. He is a company man , and nothing you write to him is going to go very far.
He wont do anything because it will look like his boss (we are his boss, but he thinks he’s GWB’s personal lawyer) so here is my suggestion:

-continue sending registered mail to him and the others, but realize they will not get it til about two weeks after you send it,since it has to go through special P.O. machines etc for anthrax etc, & FRIDAY IS THE LAST DAY TO OBJECT/CHALLENGE LADYHAWKE SAYS.

- so 1) FAX a copy of your letter to him , WITH the number of the certified certificate, or copy of it attached.

2) call up his office and speak to his legal assistant, get the name, and register your complaint verbally that they have allowed someone who appears not to conform to the restrictions of the Constitution of the United States
to run for office of the President of the United States, etc.

3- BYPASS mukasey by writing to the U. S. Attorney of your state, or of your district –Each district of a state has a US Attorney. SEND YOUR US ATTORNEY The Letter, certified etc….

4- IF YOU ARE ANYWHERE NEAR A US ATTORNEY’S OFFICE GO IN AND ASK TO TALK WITH THE US ATTORNEY, THEY’LL GIVE YOU AN ASST. OR A PARALEGAL. BRING YOUR LETTER , AND ALL THE PROOF YYOU CAN PRINT OUT FROM THE INTERNET.
5) That US ATTORNEY HAS JURISDICTION OVER HIS LOCAL FBI

6) BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE – CALL UP OR VISIT YOUR LOCAL FBI WITH THE SAME LETTER OF COMPLAINT AND PROOF – OR FAX IT TO THEM AND ASK WHY THEY HAVENT VETTED A PERSON WHO IS RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO WAS STILL USING AN INDONESIAN PASSPORT WHEN HE WAS 20 /21 AND YOU HAVE SEEN NO PROOF HE IS NATURALIZED, AND IF HE IS NATURALIZED IT IS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION FOR HIM TO BE RUNNING OR ON THE BALLOT. WHY ARENT THEY DOING THEIR JOBS? (they’ve vetted Palin’s daughter more than O)

Draw yourself up to your full height, dress nicely, conservatively, practice what you want to say, get your papers in order,evidence, in order
And JUST DO IT.

lu ya guys, – if you’ll do it, something will come of it, I promise.

Finally FOR FLORIDA RESIDENTS,

OUR GOV IS A REAL CRIME BUSTER GOOD GUY. SEND THE COMPLAINT LETTER TO THE GOV, OR TO HIS FAX….FOLLOW UP WITH PHONE CALL. SAYING YOU ARE NOT GETTING PROPER RESPONSE FROM SEC OF STATE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO HANDLE THIS.
ALSO , SEND COPY TO NEW STATE’S ATTORNEY OF FLORIDA, BILL MC COLLUM, (HE OF THE FANATICAL IMPEACHING OF CLINTON).. FOLLOW UP WITH PHONE CALL – WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT???
IS IMPEACHING OVER SEX MORE IMPORTANT THAN VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION WITH AN UNQUALIFIED NATURALLIZED CITIZEN?
THEY WILL HAVE TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER HE IS NATURALIZED OR CITIZEN BORN IF YOU ACCUSE THEM OF VIOLATING THEIR DUTY AND CONSTITUTION

Bill once said Obama would come on his show when he got worried about his campaign…I guess that time has come.

I heard a woman caller on Washington Journal this morning say over and over again that that woman (meaning Hillary) caused her own defeat because she would not shut up. She used the term numerous times in a threatening way over and over about ‘that woman’. Even though it was a female caller it was definitely sexist and threatening, meant to intimidate all women from speaking out. These Obama supporters are going to be their own doom if they don’t stop threatening women.

My prowl is in limbo, I got a machine so I left a message with number and waiting for the person to call me back. Don’t know if they will but if not I will call back around 3 and then tomorrow.

you know, I’m a new Republican.

i’ll agree that the parties differ greatly on the issues, but right now i’m enjoying the fact that i am now in a party that may not agree with me when it comes to most of my views, but will at least listen to what i have to say.

I’m not saying you should all become Repubs, i would never say that. I have now realized that the only Democrat I can ever be, the ONLY Democrat I ever was, is a CLINTON DEMOCRAT.

The Clintons represent the Democratic party, the REAL Democratic party. Since this new and “improved” Dem. party has decided to all but erase the Clintons from memory, I see no reason to remain a Dem.

When the Clinton factor comes back into play and the Dem. party I once belonged to returns, this Clinton Dem. will always be here…ready, willing, and anxiously awaiting MY President’s return to the campaign trail.

Hillary IS my President, and in 2012 we’ll make it official.

i asked this before but didnt receive a response (which is fine, i know its difficult to read EVERY post):

does anyone know what time Sarah Palin is speaking tonight?

i have to work but i want to tape it so i can watch later

i think sarahs speaking at 10:00PM EST

I heard a woman caller on Washington Journal this morning say over and over again that that woman (meaning Hillary) caused her own defeat because she would not shut up. She used the term numerous times in a threatening way over and over about ‘that woman’. Even though it was a female caller it was definitely sexist and threatening, meant to intimidate all women. These Obama supporters are going to be their own doom if they don’t stop threatening women.

rush is going after obama with more detail and passion..its nice to hear someone go after obama instead of hillary or sarah

#231 Kelligesq awesome letter, please post if you get a response from that.
#230 Noblecascade MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
#215 stoney42 I would almost hate him to ask because knowing BO he would give some song and dance make us out to be horrible people that he has bent over backwards for and then say maybe they just don’t like me …………..cuz i’m different

Media bias study from last year reveals fix was in
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/media-vs-voters-how-long-since-the-fix-was-in/

Prowlland – if you haven’t called the Tx. Dems yet – I forgot to ask them why in the f*** they certified the caucus votes when there was documented voter fraud and 2000 complaints !!!! Could you please ask them that ?

#171 Seattlegirl – PALIN AND SHARP SHOOTING

Loved it!

now some media a-holes are calling for paternity tests to prove that sarahs baby is actually her own

Murphy or Marylandpuma, My mom has been trying to get on this site for weeks. I talked her through the process so if either of you received her e-mail could you please reply…Her e-mail is spot@buckeye or something like that…Thanks.

so…

10 pm on Fox

thanks guys

#256 ClintonRules Ok smarty pants – I didn’t see that someone had posted it for you already !! lol

Called my State Party Chair who did not know. Referred to Office of Secretary for Democratic Party (Emily). I left a message with her. If I do not receive a call back in 4 hours I will call again. It was interesting that when I called State Party Chair # the guy went into defense mode about Hillary and her meeting. I did not even bring her name up

260 4hillinca – I asked to speak with the State convention chair – they are the ones with the info .

I mailed O’reilly,and told him that we expect hard questions asked to Obama,not the usual kool-aid drinking questions that Obama is used to.But we don’t expect any direct answers back.

#21 mijabsnji

“did you hear nobama is going on O’Riely thursday,that should be good,Bill will put him on the spot and we can watch him squirm !”

~~~~~~

Don’t count on it… as much as O’Reilly can be an A$$ to his guests… I’ve also seen him give Obama a free pass at times. So don’t expect it to be fair and balanced is all I’m saying.

#265 sandtraps…I could only catch a part of the coverage last night of the convention. It was the part where they introduced the two girls that Cindy McCain saved from Mother Theresa’s orphanage. One girl the McCains adopted, the other went to anther family who spoke. They spoke about it last night. It was very moving. They are two beautiful girls.

Now isn’t Cindy a CEO of her company,(formerly her father’s company) and hasn’t she travelled the world for her humanitarian causes.

The emptiness of Obama gets more and striking by the day. He isn’t qualified to be a Senator either.

“Mother’s role is different than father’s role…” – Sally Quinn (elitist?)

Sally’s interview
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=166243

She said that evangelicals are suppose to stay home and be subservient (I am so angry that I may not have spelled that word correctly) to their husbands. I have evangelicals friends and none are subserviant to anyone and some work outside the home – horrors. And, to stop the stereotype of Muslim women, I have Muslim neighbors on both sides of me and in back of me and my niece by marriage and nephew are Muslim (she from Pakistan and he a convert) and the women rule the roost.

Today I am GRRRRRRRRRRRRRowling!

I would not be surprised if the interview with BO has already been taped on the condition that it would be shown on the night McCain is giving his speech.

Wasn’t it just last wk that BO’s supporters were whining that if McCain did anything on the night of BO’s speech it would be “political malpractice”?

Fellow PUMAs – The more I watch and hear the attack on Sarah Palin’s family the angrier I am getting. Time for a little blowback. Take a look at this video – is this really Joe Biden drunk???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ
I did notice a white pickup truck in the background, the same one as here?: http://www.236.com/feed/2008/08/20/joe_biden_says_hes_not_the_guy_8381.php

Now if this is Biden, well come on, this would be big news! Who vetted Joe Biden?

What I got from the lieberman speech last night was that he is very fearful of where our country is headed. He obviously believes McCain to be the better candidate and I don’t think it’s all about friendship. I give him alot of credit for speaking and standing up for his convictions, because we all know the backlash he will be recieving will be a tidal wave! Country before party!

231 Kelligesq
what address did you use?

MoDo tries to fight the sexism claims, shoots self in the foot
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/modo-how-dare-they-bring-sexism-we-disposed-of-that-idea/

More Anti-Palin Pack Journalism

http://www.anchorrising.com/barnacles/006281.html

….And Juan Williams – yep, I’m sure he drank the kool-aid. So sad, he said he likes BO’s proposed health care, etc….the stolen ones from Hillary!!!

In case you have not seen it, they are mentioning PUMAs….

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/02/palin.women/index.html

272 Middle age female
i dont think it was taped..because Greta is taking questions for us
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/03/your-big-chance-what-would-you-ask/#comment-1754214

so ask away !!!!!!!!

TOPIC: Wanted: URL re: Sexism in the Primaries

anti, go, anyone,
Do you still have the youtube URL that portrays some of the “highlights” of the gender bias in this year’s primaries? If so could you post?

I need it, because a good friend emailed me that she didn’t think the primaries were sexist! Puh-leeze…!

Thanks for your help PUMAs, I do appreciate it & you!!!
Keep fighting the good fight, & BBL…

285 BillieJo
It sounds like if they had proof……you know ??

‘You’d probably be spending your time better trying to make the polar bears cry or writing love letters to Ann Coulter or something. Be wonderful to each other.’

Irony and hypocrisy.

#192…I have always hated Newt. Now I have to give him a “way to go Newt!” Thumbs up !

The Dems better wake up. I am with you…what is this world coming to.

PUMAS

Finally had some time to watch the media coverage this AM. CNN is a waste (Obrien is so bias). Listen to FOX, more interesting – never thought I’d ever watch their coverage, always despised it, but I do respect David Gergen’s views (don’t always have to agree). I’ve even starting listening to conservative talk radio out of Portland, Oregon (Air America and Obama stronghold). What I’ve found is that at least I’m getting both sides of the story and somewhere in the middle is “an ounce of truth or moderation.”

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I am almost 79 yrs. old, a life-long Dem who has never voted for a Repub. at any level, but sick to death that Obama will scam this election as he has the primaries. I will vote for McCain/Palin and hope to hell that they have the goods to win. I will worry about the Republicans in the presidency when I don’t have to worry about the Democratic Nazi Party trying to take over our govenment. When we have to worry about obots posting our personal information, ss#, medical records, and invading our homes, posting lies about us, and calling our employers, it’s time to do whatever we have to do to stop them. Republicans are not our greatest threat at this time.

(Bluejay – the PUMA formerly known as sandbag)

re: #205 StaunchPatriot

Yes, I am serious, although I presume your question was rhetorical . . .

Geologists feel that there is a very limited amount of oil under the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge – some sources say a year’s worth. It would take many years to build the infrastructure to even begin to get at the oil under the coastal plain, at great cost to the environment. This is far from a quick fix for high oil prices. Most, if not all oil extracted there would be shipped to Asia, thereby doing nothing to decrease our dependence on “foreign” oil. It would be a yet another quick buck for big oil, and so what if the Gwich’in lose their homeland.

Have you seen what Prudhoe Bay looks like – just down the coast from the refuge?:

http://www.sitnews.us/0306news/030606/030606_leak_located.html

The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is small – only about the size of South Carolina. It was declared a refuge for very good reasons. Is it too much to ask to just leave it alone??

I quite simply will never (no way, no how) support anyone in an election who does not endorse the permanent protection of the Refuge.

Wow! We are really pissed today, it is like a flash back of HillaryClinton.com website. Tireless people here trying to fight all these people bashing women in the 21st century. It has been only five days and the BOTS are on full speed, including women, doing the same low tactic against another women in politics. How much more we have to take? I don’t care if is a Democrat, Republican, or Independent, it is sick, evil, disgusting, and un-American to do something like that. Boy!, the Democratic Party is not the same with Obama as their leader, that says a lot to me, this problably creates fear among little girls, I assumed. What about BHO little girls? Is he telling them what his party is doing to women?

IF IT QUACKS LIKE A DUCK,

ITS THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE

Pumas, I have been against Obama for his crookedness, cheating, empty suit and vile racism. Then on top of
Berg revealing the Indonesian passport and other questions:

Now, I realize there are much more serious reasons to make certain he never gets near the WH. I poo-poo’d those who suggested he was “manchurian” – now I know they’re right. IF YOUR A PATRIOT AND LOVE OUR COUNTRY – you need to get this message out;

If you belong to a black church, go there with this info;
If you belong to a synagogue go there with this info;
If you belong to any club, go there with this info;

Prowland and I and Gandolfo did some posting on this and now others have picked it up – it’s long , and the more you read the scarier Obama gets:

“Who is Dr.Khalid al-Mansour, and why was he backing Obama in the 1980s?

Who is Khalid al-Mansour? And more importantly, why was he promoting Barack Obama in the 1980’s when Obama was in his twenties and raising money for him, ?

In the video of oldtime NYC power broker Percy Sutton
( posted by Prowlland) claimed he was asked by a certain “Dr. Khalid al Mansour”, adviser to one of the richest men in the world’ (Saudi prince) to write a letter of recommendation on behalf of Barack Obama to help him gain acceptance to Harvard in the 80’s.

Mansour was raising money for Obama at the time, according to Sutton,(remember Obama in his book said when he was in New York he was living on the streets when he wasn’t living with his Pakistani friends)

In the video Sutton says: “I was introduced to him by a friend who was raising money for him and the friends name was Dr. Khalid al Mansour from Texas. He is the principle adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama. He wrote to me about him and his introduction was ‘there is a young man that has applied to Harvard and I know that you have a few friends left there because you used to go up there to speak, would you please write a letter in support of him?’…I wrote a letter in support of him to my friends at Harvard saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I sure hoped they would treat him kindly.”

“Al Mansour, a lawyer with 2 other Arab partners represents OPEC.

Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tario Al-Mansour is an internationally acknowledged advisor to Heads of State and business leaders in Africa, Asia, the Middle East and North America. He has been actively involved in structuring investments and joint ventures worldwide for over 35 years. Dr. Al-Mansour was also responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s investment company. During his distinguished career, Dr. Al-Mansour has been a guest lecturer at Harvard University, Bombay University, Columbia University, UCLA, University of Kenya, London School of Economics and the University of Ghana.
In addition to Africa Venture Partners, Dr. Al-Mansour sits on the Boards of: Saudi African Bank; Kingdom Holdings, Africa; Multimedia Super Corridor (Malaysia); Space Tech Inc.; AmNet Corp. International; New Avenues Fund Ltd; United Bank for Africa; United Networks; and Landmark Entertainment.

Dr. Al-Mansour has authored 24 books and is listed in Who’s Who in the World; International Who’s Who in the Arab World; Two Thousand Men of Achievement; Royal Blue Book of London; World’s Who’s Who of Intellectuals and American Hall of Fame. Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour has a Bachelor of Arts degree from Howard University (Phi Beta Kappa) and Doctor of Jurisprudence from the University of California at Berkeley.
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Dr. Mansour is also known as a rabid Islamist, as can be seen in his video. About those 24 books Mansour authored, here are some of the titles and as you read the titles of Dr. Mansour’s books, which tend to rabid Islamism, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS OBAMA’S MENTOR AND FINANCIAL BENEFACTOR:

Video: KHALID AL MANSOUR PROSELYTIZING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS (video)

A Radical Muslim in the White House?
http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/343429/32792086

the video promo on thE dvd,”Will the West Rule Forever?

The Challenges Of Spreading Islam In America Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 213 $16.95 Out of Stock

Americans Beware! The Zionist Plot Agnst.S.Arabia Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 19 $3.00 Out of Stock

The Destruction Of Western Civilization … Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 316 $19.95 Out of Stock

Cultural Dynamism In The 21st Century Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 488 $19.95 Out of Stock

Laws Without Justice Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 343 $19.95 Out of Stock

PC Vs TV – Can America Be Saved? Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 289 $21.95 Out of Stock

Welcome To Islam Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 717 $27.95 Out of Stock

The Reflections Of An African Arabian In Captivity Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 378 $19.95 Out of Stock

The Pentecostals: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 343 $19.95 Out of Stock

Strains Of Modern Marriage Dr Khalid Tariq Al-Mansour S 322 $21.95 Out of Stock
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From another online site originally posted here by Prowlland:

Jack Cashill of World Net Daily
Posted: August 28, 2008 1:00 am Eastern

A few weeks back, I wrote a column titled, “Who Wrote ‘Dreams From My Father’?” My research led me to the conclusion that a literary neophyte like Obama could not have written the memoir on his own. It was simply too well crafted.
I was also suspicious about his claim that publishers had sought him out, while still unknown, contract in hand. I doubted, too, that the publisher would have paid him a hefty advance.
And I refused to believe that his publisher would have invested the hefty ghostwriting fee needed to rescue the project after four years of amateurish dithering, a dithering that included an extended stay for Barack and Michelle on Bali.

“The whole story smells of purposeful intervention,” I wrote. “The whole book does. A political career holds more promise when launched with a lovely memoir under one’s belt than with an unfulfilled contract over one’s head. Much more.”

“The question remains,” I concluded, “who did the intervening and why?” I sensed and still do an affluent and unseen political godfather, someone with a grander vision than Bill Ayers or Tony Rezko.

A recent televised interview with octogenarian entrepreneur and politico Percy Sutton, on a New York City show called “Inside City Hall,” sheds light on the question of who this godfather might be.

A Manhattan borough president for 12 years and a credible candidate for mayor of New York City in 1977, Sutton spoke knowingly about the Obama candidacy. Although unspecified as to date, the interview likely took place within the last few months.

“I was introduced to [Obama] by a friend,” Sutton told the interviewer. The friend’s name was Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, and the introduction took place about 20 years ago.

Sutton described al-Mansour as “the principle adviser to one of the world’s richest men.” He also implied that al-Mansour was currently raising money for Obama.
………
Although Sutton does not specify a date in the video, this would likely have been in 1988 when the 27-year-old Obama was applying to Harvard Law.

Two years later, while still a law student, Obama improbably received an advance to write a memoir that would be called “Dreams From My Father” when finally published in 1995.

Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour, described as “an internationally acknowledged adviser to heads of state and business leaders in Africa, Asia, the Middle East and North America.”

Apparently, al-Mansour serves on the Board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings,
Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s investment company.

al-Mansour fits the profile of the political godfather. When (Cashill) was speculating whose “purposeful intervention” had steered Obama’s career through its rough spots, he could not have imagined a more likely candidate.

This story is still developing, not in the major media of course, but in the blogosphere, where just about all serious reporting now takes place”
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Put this together with Obama;s other associations,Black theology, the Black Muslims, Ayers and Bernadine Doehrn

2001 NYT quote:
Today, Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn, 59, who is director of the Legal Clinic’s Children and Family Justice Center of Northwestern University, seem like typical baby boomers, caring for aging parents, suffering the empty-nest syndrome. Their son, Malik, 21, is at the University of California, San Diego; Zayd, 24, teaches at Boston University.

Marcia Froelke Coburn of ChicagoMag.com reveals the reason for the Ayer’s childrens names:
“For two radicals once living underground, Ayers and Dohrn have raised three accomplished children: Zayd (named for a fallen Black Liberation soldier and colleague), 24, graduated from Brown University and has an M.F.A. degree in writing from Boston University, where he now teaches;
Malik (for Malcolm X), 21, is attending the University of California at San Diego; and Chesa, 20, their adopted son, just finished his sophomore year at Yale University.”

Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour, Senior Advisor, to Saudi Prince HRH Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal
Dr. Al-Mansour is the Co-founder of the international law firm of Al-Waleed, Al-Talal and Al-Mansour. He served as Special Advisor to: HRH Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulazziz Al-Saud of Saudi Arabia and represented OPEC in a lawsuit in California.

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Obama’s Benefactor: Dr. Khalid al Mansour,

» Yet Another Radical Obama Association?

“This guy has more skeletons in the closet than a house of horrors, and this time it’s a radical Muslim named Khalid Al-Mansour that helped Barack Obama gain acceptance into Harvard Law.

Prowlland has also found Dr. Mansour is a director of a chemical company in Illinois.

another clue:
Obama wont talk about his years in New York, or how he supported himself, although from his book you could draw the conclusion that Obama was a drug dealer since he wrote that his roommate was a drug dealer and supported himself that way.

But:
Who paid for Columbia College?
Who paid for Harvard ?
Why hasnt anyone been able to talk to the only living person who could shed some light – his grandmother?

Why was he not vetted by the DNC, by the FBI, by the CIA ? Okay, forget the CIA since Zig Brzienski was Obama’s professor.

America, America – we are in serious trouble of losing this 235 year experiment in freedom.

I dont think PUMA realized any of this, I didn’t. But Murphy and the rest of the PUMAS are involved in a fight
for America’s very continued existence.

Wow!!!!!!!!!! I just got off the phone with Senator Torres (Ret.) of Calif. He is Chair. It was a great conversation until I mentioned Obama and him not saluting the flag. Then he went off and said I had lost my credibilty. I did not have a chance to finish my statement…he hung up on me. He was a firm Hillary supporter through the convention (he said) and agreed that she was treated unfairly by the media. He was not happy when I told him I would not be voting Obama because I did not feel he was Presidential in any way. The conversation ended with a ‘click’. Oh, he said Hillary got 166 out of 441 votes….still checking on that!!

New Mccain Ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIn_fFWPaUU&eurl
Alaska Maverick

#308 4hillinca
Can you post his contact info?

#300 Atypical… thank you for your continued wisdom brought out here on this blog!!!

now off to the shower… and off to buy a new laptop for me to have at the hospital…

knee surgery this Monday… wow… no more pain!!!

PUMA input needed here on whether the media should back off attacking Palin’s background.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26527513/

#299 Onelove That smear about the Alaskan Independence Party has been debunked. Sarah was never a member. Just one more example of the Media’s attempts to destroy her.

#312 Goandersen
I called Sacramento office and they connected me.
I sent him a fax after phone call saying I am sorry our conversation ended like it did but I would not vote for Obama even if Hillary was not in the mix. Also said I deserved respect just as he does. Obama just not Presidential.
Senator Art Torress (Ret.)
Sacramento Office
1401 21st Street, Suite 200
Sacramento, California 95811
(916) 442-5707 phone
(916) 442-5715 fax

Los Angeles Office
1801 Avenue of the Stars, Suite 825
Los Angeles, California 90067
(310) 407-0980 phone
(310) 407-0981 fax

306 Kelligesq
im going to rewrite this a bit and send it to the media ..if thats ok with you ?

Obama bin Biden’s audience is lethargic and unmotivated. They know… they know.

#213 queen81 on 09.03.08 at 11:49 am

I do worry that if you leave the box for President unchecked, you leave the door open for fraud. Research all candidates that will be on the ballot in your state and choose one. I personally will vote McCain. I do understand why some will/cannot so this. But please choose someone. You own your vote, don’t give anybody an opportunity to choose it for you.

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Actually it doesn’t matter who we vote for if we don’t have more honest PUMAs watching the polls.

Obama stole the election from Hillary, why wouldn’t he try gaming the system again in the General Election?

That’s the reason I was trying to excite everyone yesterday to sign up for yesterday’s Prowl.

Poll inspectors and poll workers are our only defense in November.

well that was interesting…just got off the phone with a *61 follower:

this guy is now an ex friend (we cant talk about anything without arguing now)

he asked me this:

“are you now ready to pledge your allegiance to Obama?”

i said “pledge my allegiance? the only thing worthy of pledging my allegiance to is the American flag.”

guess he didn’t like my answer because he graced my ears with this gem:

“oh yeah? well Hillary is never going to be President, she’ll be too old in 4 years and besides, she’s a b****”

to which i replied, “gee, thanks for putting everything into perspective. if i wasn’t determined to make sure *61 loses before, you just gave me a much needed second wind.”

i then went on to say that his mother had been on the other line (i like his mother, a very nice woman) and she heard everything he had said. they’ll be having a chat soon

Morning All,

I donated to Sen. McCain this morning and e-mailed his campaign congratulating him in his selection of Gov. Palin for VP. Called his campaign headquarters at
(703) 418-2008 and left a voice mail message urging them to take a stand against the sexist and misogynistic attacks launched by the BO campaign, his bias media and his paid blogging boys against Governor Sarah Palin.

Back to work.

HI MURPHY!

I HAVE TOO MUCH WORK TO DO AND I CAN’T READ THE COMMENTS TODAY — COULDN’T GET TO THEM YESTERDAY EITHER …

I JUST CAME ON TO SAY I LOVE THE OPENING STATEMENT TODAY ABOUT HOW WE ARE NOT REPUBLICANS!!

YEAH!! YOU GO, MURPHY!!

NYCgirl

The hate within then DNC is now exposed. The vile nature of what constitutes liberalism in America is a disgrace to us all.

By no means am I suggesting there aren’t hateful elements within the Republican party; however, the scope of hatred which exists within the leadership of the DNC goes beyond all reason.

If I were a Deomcrat, I wouold be outraged and flailing against the DNC machine. You go PUMA’s.

Typos… good lord.

My two cents; Palin is not helping McCain and I am getting worried that he might lose the election because of her! What does everyone think? I can’t stand CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS!!!!

Look at what they are reporting today:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/aip_founder_professed_hatred_f.php

What is our strategy from here on? Can we focus on one goal and all work towards that?

redraz

Oh no! I hate to lose you! I have absolutely no idea what arguments to use to keep you here, but just to say your insights and comments will be missed to much so dont go!

#340 onelove – please – go back and read the top of this thread and you will have your answer……………….

I think McCain will do just fine with Palin!!!

340 onelove
well i was going to vote for McCain with reservations…. not now…I was praying he would chose Palin… i looked her up about 2 month ago…

Did you see some of the GOP women on FOX – lay off Palin unless it’s about the issues or “we will get with you.” NO MORE SEXISM

OneLove This message is all over the web – let it go!!!!

onelove,

The Democrats and BO supporters want her out and quickly. Not many people know her and all they hear is BS from the MSM. I think her speech tonight may have just as many viewers as BO’s acceptance speech. If the MSM really thought that McCain would lose the election with her, they would all be silent. Don’t forget she got all the Evangelicals to solidly come on board. Also, there are a large number of undecideds which will probably go for McCain.

PROWLLAND

Yes, edit it by all means…
Chills go up the spine when Mansour is lecturing on a
“a muslim in the white house” – he’s also in Chicago with that Grey Chemical Company you found ! Wonder how much money is being bundled from the muslim community through him.

Rezko is an Arab, not Italian or slavic as most would suppose from the name .

All O’s associations are Black Muslim, muslim, radical radical stuff. That isn’t left, it’s beyond anything we could have imagined

And I wouldnt have gotten onto it if you hadnt posted the Video of Percy Sutton. I may be a bit older than some, or because when I was young I remember Percy Sutton and who he was.

PROWL – can you put in the links to the videos and other stuff ?

I couldnt go to sleep last night until almost 5 AM, I was so upset about what’s happening.

Did the Saudis launder money to the leadership of the Dem party ? Durbin ? Pelosi ? and the rest ? Why would they all be going ga ga over him and shoving him down our throats if not ?

Suann Therese Maier, the mother of four and former director of non-profit support organizations for pregnant women and children with disabilities, is a teacher in Colorado:

http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=1161

- FMR

Does anyone know what time Palin will be speaking tonight. Pacific time zone.

omg This guys says obama’s parents are both MEN….I am not Joking check it out. http://countusout.wordpress.com/

It didn’t matter who we voted for in 2000 or 2004—why would it matter this year? Whoever the Council on Foreign Relations, and The Trilateral Commission deem to be the most compatible with their long range plan for Economic Globalization, WILL be the next President. No matter how we vote or what we believe. It is their power alone that caused the Democratic primary and convention fiasco. It is their power that caused Hillary to do a turn-about and they are the force behind President Clinton’s capitulation to Obama’s campaign. What else could ever explain it? And it doesn’t matter which party a president belongs to—every president is always a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Too many people fail to distinguish between the Committee on Foreign Relations and the COUNCIL on Foreign Relations, the latter of which is a worldwide organization.

#361 FairMinedRepub

Thank You for sharing that article.

#358 mkp651
Sarah will speak tonight after Rudy Giuliani about 9PM EST. So I suppose 6PM PT

#306 Kelligesq on 09.03.08 at 1:32 pm
America, America – we are in serious trouble of losing this 235 year experiment in freedom.
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Exactly the way I see it.

I knew most of this before. This is only part of Obamas problems. there is more. this is why I keep saying our objective is to defeat Obama. America is at stake. I strongly believe he is sponsored by foreign interests and we will suffer big time for that.

His energy policy of no oil seems designed to cause riots in the streets so he will be able to declare martial law. I believe is following much of Hitler’s rise to power. His use of children in similar. Why did not people stop Hitler well why do we not stop Obama. Hitler promised change and Germany got change right into world war II.

http://www.fetchbook.info/search.do?search=+Al-Mansour&searchBy=Author&Submit=Search

However, I want to say that some of his books are available from used book dealers go to the above link. I include the online description of 2 of them. Obviously blaming whites for all black problems.

LOST BOOKS OF AFRICA REDISCOVERED-WE CHARGE GENOCIDE represents a literary masterpiece. This well-researched & intellectually friendly milestone offers 1000 pages of bold, blunt answers to questions unanswered for far too long. Why so many Black teenage pregnancies? Black-on-Black crime? School dropouts? Family disintegration? Economic disempowerment? Religious exploitation? Social unrest? Readers will also be fascinated with the accounts of two 19th-century Christian clergy eye witnesses. Recognized intellectual Edward W. Blyden carefully documents the advanced West African civilization that prevailed during the slave trade. Rev. C.C. Jones (Religious Instructions of the Negroes) describes in detail how conditions of forced illiteracy & immorality combined to permanently fracture the inner personality of the slave (cultural genocide). In his weakened condition Christianity was layered onto a group personality disorder. The result has produced the crippled African American community in full bloom today. One of the many highlights in LOST BOOKS is a 46-page dedication to former Heavyweight Champion Muhammad Ali.

unfortunately this first one is offered above $200. the next one is more reasonable.

Betrayal by Any Other Name…….Word from the Publisher:

A systematic, scholarly attempt to answer the controversial question of who truly speaks for African & Hispanic Americans. Discussed with an historical framework from Africa before & during slavery, the 300 year American slave system, slave emancipation, Civil War reconstruction, Civil Rights & Black Nationalist Movements vis-a-vis African-American leadership. A similar treatment is presented in the evolution of Hispanic American leadership couched in little known historical facts about Aztec & Mayan civilizations, how the West was really won & how Hispanic leadership came into existence. Many penetrating insights & ideas are presented, a few of which are: The psychological phenomena “multiple personality disorder” applied to African-Americans as “group multiple personality disorder.” Islamic influences on the development & growth of the fiery nationalist leader, Marcus Garvey. The meteoric rise & philosophy of a former slave & one of the wealthiest Blacks in the history of America, Paul Cuffe.

and of course his book

Rise ‘N Unite – The Black Man’s Back

which title is a testiment to Obama. Obviously he would be finding people to support Obama. This book is just published in JULY 2008. so it is new.

Rise ‘N Unite – The Black Man’s Back
Khalid A. T. Al-Mansour, Paperback, First African Arabian Pr
July 2008, List Price $29.95, 9781883136161 (1883136164)

The mentality of the ISLAMIST is that it is good to lie to your white enemy to take over his power and country. This is praised by Islam. So be careful.

there is simply too much far too much of this kind of association for Obama. He is not acceptable in any way to be President. He must be stopped.

Have you read the article on his mom being an anthropologist who never opens up but takes in from others. scary. that is exactly the way Obama is. He tells us nothing but sucks in all information from everyone else. His loyalty is probably to blacks and or islam. definitely not to white america. Change will be catestropic and almost unbelieveable. America as we know it will be gone.

I am here to stop obama and help with womens rights and equality for women. However, I feel Obama is critical NOW. He must be stopped NOW. Immediately these next 2 months. We all have more time to finally attain womens rights and equality which will take more time and work anyway. So I am focused these two months on stopping Obama. I can not imagine if he brought in Saria law which would take all rights away from women.

Right now the big picture is to stop Obama and the best way to do that is to elect McCain. so we need people to vote for mccain. not leave the spot empty. as someone said leaving a blank on the ballot only allows someone corrupt to fill in Obamas name. the best way to make sure obama is stopped is to elect McCain. The other place we need to work hard is on the berg lawsuit ideas that he is not a citizen.

We want to get attention off of Palin. when all the attention was on Obama recently he was slowly going down. Now with attention too much on Palin we have mccain going down. Attention seems to be negative. so we must find a way to get the negative attention back on Obama and keep it there.

God sent Sarah to startup a natural gas picpeline from Alaska to the rest of the USA. And Obama says the Repubs aren’t talking about the economy. This kind of beats keeping your tires inflated, Barack. LOL

I happened to see Gerry Ferraro on Good Morning America this morning with Robin Roberts. She talked about Pumas and our voting options. She said McCain, write-in for Hillary, or NOTHING ON TOP.

MURPHY, she’s lurking. Go Gerry!

#335…While I am sorry to see anyone go, I wish you well and I thank you for your kind words.

#368 GoHillaryGo

I believe this what TrishFromCanada was attempting to do last night. Very few were listening and in fact, were
knocking down her view.
Palin is a distraction from Oblahblah, that is the game. The roots of sexism run deep around the world, they will not be derailed in one fell swoop. Stay on the mark Pumas.

Watch Geraldine Ferraro’s interview now :

http://abcnews.go.com/gma

376 goandersen -Oops! Didn’t mean to put that all in bold!

Here, go after MO

http://chronicle.com/blogs/election/2390/grassley-raises-questions-about-michelle-obamas-former-employer

#352 shasta2001 on 09.03.08 at 2:10 pm

I have looked at the polls and yes Sarah Palin is helping McCain by solidifying his support from Republican women … BUT, he is loosing independents and democrats (both men and women). And, that worries me because there are less republicans in this election year!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109975/Obama-Gains-Overall-McCain-Among-GOP-Women.aspx

I hope the poll is wrong, but it scares me!

You know, it is interesting, some of the comments in MSM. Interestingly, I poked over at the Huffy Po yesterday, home page stated something like PALIN TO DROP OUT BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

It is really ridiculous, the MSM think they control events, if they say it, it will happen.

And unfortunately, I think it is happening.

I think the way around all of this is a concerted attack on the MSM. I will mull it over today and see if I can come up w/ a plan.

I am sick of reading their “predicitions”, it started back in March or April, w/ democratic “leaders” calling for Hillary to drop out, which the MSM fueled.

I was an Activate caller for Hillary, I cannot tell you how many people in how many states stated “Oh, I thought the race was over, I thought HIllary didn’t have any chance to win so why should I vote?”

And remember the morning of the last primary, the AP put out that BO was going to claim victory that night!

WTF??? I am sick of the media and I am ready to fight them. I think this borders on harrassment.

340 onelove on 09.03.08 at 2:03 pm
What is our strategy from here on? Can we focus on one goal and all work towards that?
******************************

Onelove, Pumas have one goal Nothing On Top for Democrats, that means they do not vote for Obama nor Biden.
They can vote for whomever they wish.

But I say to all women, especially this year of the 88 anniversary of Women Suffragettes, to honor their memory and definitely vote this year

1 Make sure as a woman, you get out and vote.

2. Make sure you get your female counterparts to get out and vote

3. Make sure you vote N.O.T. for Democrats…

4. This is your Protest Vote against the DNC, the RBC for discounting the votes of Florida and Michigan and selecting Obama instead of permitting the citizens to vote for their leader.

Whatever our individual feelings are, logically, the only way to stop BO is to get McCain/Palin elected.

We know the Obamabots are lurking, too, on this blog. They know we know of the caucaus fraud and they know we are going to try to prevent election fraud on Nov. 4th. Someone on this blog pointed out that if you vote Nothing on Top, and for some reason the ballots have to be recounted, and they see that there’s nothing on top but you’ve voted democrat the rest of the way, they could just assume something was wrong with the process and count that toward BO. Just something to think about…

PROWLLAND – GOHILLARY GO

Prowland,

include the one of Percy Sutton -should be first,

then the one on Betrayal- which is why he wouldnt mention Martin Luther King, or have any of American black leaders who marched in Selma and elsewhere on
the podium — MIGAWD, it is all true

then on the bottom of the article, list the other lectures there links.. as more reference

PROWLLAND
FORGET ABOUT MAINSTREAMMEDIA – FOX YES, GRETA, OREILLY, HANNITY, OKAY – RUSH LIMBAUGH, ANY OTHER RIGHT WINGERS YOU CAN SEND TO -

start sending or asking to see your republican senators, and show it to them.

I’m just beside myself on how to get this all out…

prowl – write it up good, we’re taking it to every FBI office any of us have.

GO HILLARY GO

if you knew all of this why didnt you educate us to it.
SARIA law, – that;’ s why he was so rude to Hillary

I keep holding my face like the “scream”

Sweet Cheezus – we need all the hands on this we can get –

If Murphy will make it a prowl, many many will see it.

#385 greenfun on 09.03.08 at 2:40 pm

Murphy please remove … This is absolutely not helping our movement. I hate to say this, but these kinds of comments should not be allowed here!

Hey who is moderator on this fine board today??

385 greenfun
This was posted in here yesterday… thought you might be interrested :
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The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to Barack HUSSEIN Obama during his time inside the United States. Read the list and judge for yourself…

SARAH BERKLEY – Author of “The Jihad at the Ballot Box” – a book examining Obama’s relationship with radical Islam. Died in a mysterious car crash in 2003.

RUSSELL MCDOUGAL – Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2007. McDougal was known to hold sensitive information about meetings Barack Obama had with arms smugglers. His wife was murdered March 2006 after he went public with his initial reports. His father died July 8, 2006 four hours after McDougal presented his findings on the Savage Nation. Suffered administrative retaliation after reporting discussions by jihadist groups concerning Obama to his superiors.

RODRIGO VILLALOPEZ, a television news camera man who shot the footage of Obama describing small town voters as “bitter” and “clinging to their guns during the primary season.

BRIAN GORING – A defense attorney for Obama patron Antoin Rezko during his trial for extortion and bribery. Died of apparent “natural causes.”

MERCEDES HUGLEY, one of Obama’s many white, female conquests while at Harvard. Filed sexual a s sault charges against Obama for date rape in 1990. Because “date rape” was not considered a crime like it is today, she ended up dropping the charges. Two years later, she was found dead of an apparent cocaine overdose.

TAMIKA HILL – A former secretary for Obama’s office in Chicago was murdered July 6, 2005 at a rib shack in the south side. Hill had spoken off the record with a reporter from the Chicago Sun Times about meetings Obama had with black militants in the city. She was murdered before she could ever be properly interviewed.

HASAD AL SHAREEZ – FBI informant. Reported to his handler in January 2001 that he had a tape about of a person named simply “B. Hussein” meeting with 9/11 hijacker Mohatma Atta in Prague. Was found shot in the basement of a mosque in Dearborn, MI in October, 2001.

DARSANO RAHARDJO – Childhood cl a s smate of Barack Obama when he attended a madr a s sa in Indonesia. Was found with his head cut off in a Jakarta alley way in 1970. Many children at the school attributed Rahardjo’s murder to the young Barack Obama. It was likely done as an initiation ritual, since Islam demands that a boy spill another’s blood before the age of ten to prove their loyalty to Allah.

REVEREND DAVID MANNING – Former head of the Trinity Baptist Church in Chicago. Was murdered during the apparent robbery of a catfish restaurant in 1972. Shortly afterwards, Rev. Jeremiah Wright took over as head of Trinity and a many parishoners (who later left the church) suspected Wright in having a hand in Reverend Manning’s death. Decades later, Manning’s son JAMAL MANNING was found dead of an apparent crack overdose in 2004. It was rumored he was going to bring evidence of Wright’s complicity in his father’s death. His testimony was timed to coincide with Obama’s first senate race.

CHRISTOPHER HARGROVE, A former lover of Larry Sinclair. Found dead in a hotel room of apparent auto-erotic asphyxiation in January 2001. Was said to have been enraged when he found out that Sinclair had cheated on Jackson with Obama in the back of a limousine. To get revenge, Jackson planned to release digital pictures Sinclair had taken of the encounter on the Internet.

PAUL ROTHCHILD – Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Washington DC in 2003. A “friend and trusted advisor” to senatorial candidate Barack Obama. Dead of an apparent suicide.

CURTIS “POOKIE” JACKSON – Chicago drug dealer. Was the subject of a police investigation in which he was suspected of funneling money to Obama’s many various community projects. Killed in 1998 in an apparent gang murder.

HARVEY KENYON – Head of Obama’s senatorial security team in Chicago. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside of Grant Park in 2005. Kenyon’s son said his father was building a dossier on Obama. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house

SHEILA BAUGH – A Washington DC madame. Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited the prostitutes in her brothel. One of those names was allegedly Barack Obama.

KEYSHAWN “SPOON” CALWORTH – Was found dead of an apparent heroin overdose May 18, 1997. Was reported to have ties to Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

LAWSHAWNA MARTIN- 26 year old mother of five, a Cabrini Green resident with a history of substance abuse. Told two of her co-workers at the Blue Peppermint Gentleman’s Club that she would have to quit work because she was pregnant again. Strongly implied that the “baby daddy” was Barack Obama. The next week, she was reported missing. No body was ever recovered, but Lawshana has not resurfaced since making those remarks.

BILL FERGUSON- Senior aide to Barack Obama. Found dead of an apparent heart attack.

GANDY BAUGH – Attorney for Obama friend Antonin Rezko died by falling out an eightieth story window of the Hanc o c k Tower, January, 2003. His client was a convicted Chinese spy

Donald Young, BO’s latest (also brutally murdered) alleged lover from Trinity United Church shot in Dec. 07.

I am a former DEM now an Independent–May 2008; now I can look at both parties without any bias. Last night as I watched the REPUBS, I realize that both parties want the our nation to prosper they just have different ideas on how to achieve the end results. Unfortunately the DEMS went with an unknown with an unknown agenda who has created nothing but division and that is problematic. I found both speeches, Thompson/Liberman inspiring, no rhetoric, just in my opinion honest words. I really don’t know what the DEMS are selling, because of the situation with Hillary I do not belive that honesty is in their vocabulary. I think they are so out of whack with the Palin pick because it displayed the abilty of the REPUBS to reach outside of the box and support a woman; they could have done the same with Hillary but refused to recognize how far we have come ; the spirit and energy we bring to the table, too bad for them for being so exclusive in the good ole boys club.

I hope that we all are welcomed to this site regardless of our party affliation; our goal and cause is the same, NO OBAMA.

#394-onelove

Excuse me, but I think it is perfectly responsible to ASK questions. This is a story that just disappeared from the media, and left a lot of questions unanswered. I don’t think we should be a site that censors what sort of questions should be be asked.

#288 Thanks Prowland, here is what I wrote:

Senator Obama, many Democrats that voted for Senator Clinton can not find anyone in the Democratic Party that will tell us how our delegates represented our vote in the Democratic Convention. We know that Senator Clinton decided to give her personal vote to you as a show of unity in the party. As the Democratic Party Nominee for President please release the accurate count of the delegates and how they voted at the breakfast meeting before the convention, and explain the extensive documentation of the major voting fraud in the caucuses ( http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/ ). Many of the Hillary supporters that show up as undecided in the polls are waiting for you to address these issues and the deliberate sexist smear campaigns against Senator Clinton and Governor Pail in this election by your supporters and the liberal media. Your answer to these questions may determine if you become our President or not.
Thank you.
Billie Jo – Life long California Democrat.

(Fox, you may edit down my questions if they are too long, but their answers are very important to the undecided voters of Hillary Clinton. Our views are not represented by our party nor by the liberal news media of MSNBC nor CNN, so we are hoping Fox will be more fair)

383 Mac
I think this day should make everyone feel sad about our country.
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This day? How about the past couple of hundred years?

#398 prowlland on 09.03.08 at 2:51 pm

Can someone please tell me how this comment is helping our discussion? Is it just me fellow PUMAs? I mean, anybody could put a list of people who were supposedly killed by *61’s thugs … Can someone tell me how this helps PUMA? THANKS!

#408 onelove
Think JFK
Think RFK
Think MLK
Think John Lennon

Think corruption at it’s deepest level. If we do not stop skimming on the surface, we will definitely lose this country and all it has stood for.

408 onelove
I want the truth about him… no one said he had anything to do with it… but do you have and people around dying like this ?
I didn’t post it yesterday…
later all .

Sent this email to Bill O’Reilly

Dear Mr. O’Reilly,

Could there be a more inappropriate time for a BO interview? Are you really interviewing him on the day of McCain’s acceptance speech?

I expected better from you. Perhaps this timing is not in your control? Are you being manipulated?

I hope that you are as tough on him as you are on other guests. He cannot speak without a teleprompter – I hope you will not afford him one.

I am sorry to say, though, that I will not actually watch the interview. My home is a BO-free zone. I do not allow his face on my television nor do I allow his voice anywhere in my living space. However, I will monitor the interview through the blogs.

I am waiting for the MSM to expose BO for what he is. You know as well as I do that his agenda is to destroy our country and our democracy. You know as well as I do that he is not qualified to serve as POTUS. You know as well as I do that his supporters are vile creatures who only know how to spew hatred, racism, and sexism. They could not put forth a rational and reasonable argument in favor of BO if you gave them 10 years to formulate one.

Thank you for your consideration.

sharpclaws
Former PUMA
Independent voting Republican for the first time in my life
McCain/Palin 08

THANK YOU—Goandersen, DancesWithPumas and Kelligesq.

Does anyone have the link to the website that lists the states and information regarding write in votes? I know in some states if you write in Hillary it goes to Obama. I think it is safer to leave blank if you are not voting another party.

I am sick to the very core of my being. The Government of this country is corrupt and that includes both Dem and Repub elites and elected officals.
I am not liking having either shoved down my throat.
Choice? What choice?
The media is playing the American people like a game of marbles.
WAKE THE HELL UP!

393 Alice Paul

Have you reviewed the green papers link Murphy posted in her blog today?

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml

I’ve been sending it to everyone I know and asked them to demand an accounting.

421 onelove
No problem.

murphy@pumapac.org
marylandpuma@pumapac.org

#292 prowlland on 09.03.08 at 1:16 pm

285 BillieJo
It sounds like if they had proof……you know ??
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Yea, sounds like a legalistic reply to you to cover their @sses. They are too well prepared to answer one voter that has talked to them.

418 4hillinca
Honestly? Be careful about the sites you get your info from… if it isn’t a .gov site, I wouldn’t believe a word.

#303 prowlland on 09.03.08 at 1:27 pm

New Poll on fox
BO 49 / 43 McCain
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Bo is going down again.
Are PUMAs the 8% ?
They keep saying about 30- 48% of us are either undecided or not voting for Obie…Which are we? I never get asked, do any of you get called for a poll?

Flowers to Geraldine Ferraro : will be delivered tomorrow Sept 4 at her NY apt. Message: Thank you again for our voice on Good Morning America. From Pumas

PUMAs if you still have nice stationery – by all means do write to her.

I hate to say this, but these kinds of comments should not be allowed here!”
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Forunately, Murphy and Maryland aren’t obots. The comments posted represent the views of individual commenters, not PUMA PAC as a whole. There isn’t anything in the comment that break the rules of this blog.

#429 Kempion
Excuse me. Who made you the moderator of this blog?

Since when do you get say whether my comments are appropriate or not?

Have a nice day.

That’s what his Reverend Wright said.

He’s just saying anything he has to , to get elected ,
with a sly big smirk.

#422 DancesWithPumas

Jinx!

Sounds like we collaborated on that post . . . LOL

#432 freddiebrown

tHANKS FREDDIEBROWN! YOU ROCK!

419 Kempion on 09.03.08 at 3:09 pm #410 goandersen

Just how far down the rabbit hole are YOU willing to go?
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Kempion, your babbling you sound just like Obama all fluff and not substance.

And we prefer goandersen’s perspective than your self-promoting rabbit hole analogy.

Time for you to check your reality, you are too funny!

#419 Kempion

“Wars are fought for profit – plain and simple. If you don’t understand what I mean, then I encourage you to look for answrs. However, looking for answers has a very negative effect: finding answers.”

Information and truth is our power, without it we continue to be powerless.

#444 TerryDo
“And we prefer goandersen’s perspective than your self-promoting rabbit hole analogy.”

Trust me Do, I am not following anyone down a rabbit hole!
Thanks bud!

Oh, and remember we discussed how the ugly behavior would get worse if the Obama group is threatened.
Obviously, McCain’s choice of Palin for VP has pushed the Obots over the edge.
Palin is a tough cookie so I think she can handle it, but I keep thinking what Obama said when he returned from Hawaii, that he was going to win the Presidentcy and there was no question about it. I keep wondering why this man is so obsessively desperate to get into the office of President. Gives me nightmares!!!!

405 goandersen

“#394 onelove
With all due respect. This information absolutely needs to see the light of day.”

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I agree with you on this goandersen. In fact… even clintons4mccain has posted this information on their site. Scroll down to title of Article: The Death Count Begins…What Really Happened in Arkansas?

and you’ll see this information along with related links (inside the story) to more information.

http://www.clintons4mccain.com/index.php?view=article&catid=1:latest-news&id=1:do-not-edit-this-article&tmpl=component&print=1&page=

onelove on 09.03.08 at 3:11 pm #417 DancesWithPumas on 09.03.08 at 3:06 pm

THANKYOU! I am kind of new here so I don’t know most of the rules! I appreciate it!

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Yes please post the rules and I would also appreciate it.
You too goandersen, just so we all know, and kempion you too I bet….

Well, one of our graduate students that I considered a friend just told me she wouldn’t talk to me until I ‘converted”. I said if you mean will I vote for Obama, no way in H@ll! She started to walk away and I said, “What if you knew your candidate had their votes stolen…she tossed up both arms and said she would not talk to me any more……..walked out of my office.
This is really someone I thought of as a friend…not my best friend but a friend. I haven’t even spoken to her about the election so her perspective has come from one of my 3 co-workers.

Steam is coming out of my ears right now.

#443 goandersen – and my critics

No offense taken. I am used to being misunderstood because my views are very center line. I also tend to speak/type that way as well.

Take the example I gave: War. how many people are even willing to accept wars are not fought for the reasons we are told? Wars are fought for “profit”? What does that mean.

Look at the Vietnam War. It was fought as a stalemate – never advancing, never going after the enemy where they were and only countering the aggression of Vietcong and NVA. Who fights a war in this manner? We were sold on the idea that, arguably, the most powerful military in the world couldn’t chase down and destroy a third-world army and band of insurgents.

At the same time, American corporations were financing military weapon production in SOVIET Russia. Where did those weapons end up? In Vietnam, of course. Profiteering was taking place on BOTH sides of the conflict in Vietnam.

Is this a stretch? I offer you: Prescott Bush. I’m sure many posters here know he was the Vice-president of the Union Bank Corporation during the WWII era and that the UBC helped to finance Standard Oil and I.G. Farben (a Nazi weapons producer – including nerve agents used on the Jews in Nazi concentration camps).

I don’t have to make this stuff up. It’s historical fact. The fact that UBC was later charged with crimes associated with supporting an enemy combatant and broken apart is enough evidence for any rational person.

What is going on today, politically, is being manipulated at a level much higher than the political parties. I used to believe the parties were simply corrupt. Now, I know they have sold their souls for political gain. There are no exceptions, no “good” guys. Once you enter a political machine, you MUST embrace it or you will be cast aside. That’s how it works.

#458 BillieJo

I have similar stories of friends that are suddenly mad at me for my position. This is what I hate most about Obama. He draws these lines of hate and revels in watching the people take sides. He’s the great divider — not the great unifier.

“Truth is illusive, because it knows where to hide.” Right, BO?

461 goandersen

You’re welcome. Personally I think there’s not enough published on this topic. I suspect Obama is running his camp like the mafia. Personally — I still think he’s responsible for Tubbs Jones death. I suspect he had someone slip her a drug that might cause hemmorhaging. I believe it’s a possibility and not ruling it out. In my mind, the reverse is true for Obama — he’s guilty until proven innocent (without a shadow of doubt).

Hello my dear Pumas,

I don’t know if someone has already given this reference, but I think this article confirms Murphy’s post today : some delegates are very, very angry :

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/some-hillary-cl.html

460 Kempion

It’s no secret that, of course, wars are fought for profit.
Industrial military complex and all of that. The US economy is war based. The US, in theory, has to have a war at least every ten years in order to sustain itself.

444 TerryDo
Please speak for yourself only.
Although I don’t have a pony in this race, at least not one that I want to share at the moment, you haven’t asked any of us whose persepctive we prefer, etc.

What is going on today, politically, is being manipulated at a level much higher than the political parties. I used to believe the parties were simply corrupt. Now, I know they have sold their souls for political gain. There are no exceptions, no “good” guys. Once you enter a political machine, you MUST embrace it or you will be cast aside. That’s how it works.
__________________________
We all KNOW this Kempion!

I am going to find a happier place to hang out.
See ya!

#470 DancesWithPumas

Perhaps I didn’t make my point very well. War for profit does not go deep enough into the problem. Profiteering from all sides in a war and the coordiantion which is required to do so, make it clear there are much stronger forces in our world than simple politics. In fact, the powerbrokers CONTROL the politics.. and the media… and… and… and.

goandersen on 09.03.08 at 3:47 pm I know what the freaking rules are.
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I know you do but me and the other freaks do not! lol
You were just the decoy!

IDEA/SUGGESTION:

I watched a few clips in the internet of Larry King’s panel on RNC/Palin the last two nights and I could not believe my ears. It was sooooo obvious Larry kept antagonizing and pushing for the commentators to bash Palin. My fellow PUMAs, here is my suggestion/idea –lets not allow the media do what they did to Hillary…Lets send Sarah Palin letters of encouragement and support telling her that we have her back (Any McCain campaing e-mail contacts anyone?) Lets empowered her, there is nothing like EMPOWERMENT when you are facing the travesty we are seing today. Remember when I told you the other day; that Fidel Castro and Che Guevara took over the media and silenced the people…”hint” Has Obama accomplished the same? No, if we stand up today.

goandersen on 09.03.08 at 3:54 pm I am going to find a happier place to hang out.
See ya!
————————————–Well sheazzzzzzzzzzz
I was trying to make you laugh and you did not get it, my bad.

#481 BillieJo

Was there a point in here somewhere? Your attempt to use me as an example of some—thing failed.

McCain holds conference with women — see links below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAq0zyIi-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2wiBCJyGM

If anyone has a full link of the entire conference broadcast — please post the link.

Hey, I had to step out for a while……………….Thanks for having my back goandersen.

May I suggest to those sending letters to their state attorney generals and secretary of states that you attach info that clearly documents fraud perpertrated by the Obama campaign, the Knoxville article on what happenend with the coercion of Hillary delegates and any other attachments that is “right in their face” about the fraudulent voting. Use only facts. That way you have blatantly provided documented info they can’t deny.

The issue with Obama travelling on an Indonesia passport is because, at the time, you could NOT get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport. I forgote what kind of law it was imposed at the time, but that is why the questioning on the passports, which therefore he would have had to be a citizen of that country to have their passport.

The one person who has really researched this is Momma E. She is no longer on Ed Hale’s show so I don’t know how she can be contacted.

TOPIC: Caucus Fraud

An excerpt:
“In all, we know about 40 precincts out of 170 with irregularities, ranging from false delegate counts, to false entries on sign-in sheets for Obama, to a few incidents following the statewide pattern of illegally taking or attempting to take caucus materials from elections judges. Like Greg Palast might say, it doesn’t take much to change the outcome of an election. In El Paso, pro-Hillary volunteers seem to have protected the caucus results so they were similar to the popular vote, but that was not the case in most caucuses.”

http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/06/02/updatetexas-caucus-fraud/

Go -just make sure you’re back bfore cocktail hour !!! CLINK !

TOPIC: Caucus Fraud

An excerpt -
In other words:

35 Primaries with 33.8 million voters have Clinton leading in both votes and delegates.

Caucuses with 1.1 million voters gave Obama 300,000 more votes and 193 more delegates.

….After 47 state elections to date, Obama leads Clinton by 152 pledged delegates. 97% of the difference – 148 delegates – is directly attributable to lopsided victories in caucus contests.”

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/27/92144/7994

EVERY question posed to Palin needs to be asked to Obama.

Hillary says…….You gotta love her!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GQadAAlK9c4

Forgot the link….hehehe

BBL, everyone be wonderful to each other.
Also, if you’ve the youtube url w/Olbermann & others showing off their gender-bias, please post the link here, thanks.

To call and complain to US magazine regarding Sarah Palin.. the number is below. If this is a re-post… my apologies!!

212-484-1616 – ask for complaint line.

nativegirl

493 mzebest
You should think about emailing Murphy if you have a complaint about a particular poster. She’s asked, often, that we not call people out on the blog but email her instead.

BillieJo-I am so down with your point of view.
I am sending you gmail.You too GO.

#463 TexasTigress on 09.03.08 at 3:45 pm

billie jo – did you ever get the links to local stations in swing states I posted for you last night ?

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No Texas, I didn’t get them, could you repost them again here for me. Thanks.

I know some of us feel our world has turned upside down politically. This is a link to Republican women’s response to sexism from Sugar n’ Spice’s site. It’s galvanizing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2wiBCJyGM

DELPHINE IN FRANCE

BON JOUR

Where are you in France?

I will be in Paris on Sept 20 and then to Nice

If you are near, let me know, and we shall have lunch together

Kelli

Palin Slashed Funds for Teen Moms?

NOT SO FAST!

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/03/finding-the-true-story-is-nearly-impossible-in-the-mainstream-media/

PUMAS

In actuality what Kempion is tellling you about Prescott
Bush is true, and about who make money out of the wars while pitting nationalitie against each other is true.

I think we shouldn’t be too hard on him, and maybe have a little more patience. It’s obvious he’s been around a block or two and wants to share what he knows.

Kelli

TURN ON FOX NOW HARRIETT CHRISTIAN IS ON may have spelled it wrong in a hurry.

Bonjour Kelli !

Pleased to meet you !
I live in Lyon : do you know this French city ?
I’m glad to learn you’ll be in Paris and Nice, but I’m afraid I live a little too far…
What are you going to do In France ?

Do you speak French ?

(Bluejay – the PUMA formerly known as sandbag)

#474 goandersen

You still here? It’s not just you – I’ve had my share of “troubles” today too. Come back!

Billie jo I am going to repost them with the new ones I have added today . In case it gets put in moderation , the ones we had gotten up to yesterday are in post 841 on the ‘Accounting’ thread ( 2 threads ago )

HEY do not blame Billiejo……It was my fault for the snafoooo
I added goadersen name asking for rules knowing he did not need them, it was just so that Icould have them along with onelove and kempion…we need them I said b/c I wanted them to have them!!

Harriet Christian was just on fox tv and said that Hillary supporters had met with John McCain earlier in the summer and had discussed Sarah Palin as one of the possible repub VP candidates. And will wonders never cease, Neil Cavuto was not only deferential to her, but actually apologized for interrupting her. She is something else.

#527 prowlland yea she said the name of it but I don’t remember she said it so fast and they didn’t post it. She said they are watching what happens and it the same thing that happened to Hillary (which I don’t agree) and she said we won’t let it happen again. That was about it.

Can anyone from California give me a fax #, phone #
for Art Torres. I sent an email using the address from the website and it bounced.
Thanks

Yes, thank you Kelli – have an appointment tomorrow in person to follow through

Billie jo- yep , it’s in moderation again …

527 prowlland
on 09.03.08 at 4:22 pm 522 slyt2
dang i missed most of it…just heard her say she was with a watch group..
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The name of Harriett’s group is
THE NEW AGENDA

JUST LEFT A COMPLAINT ON THE COMPLAINT LINE OF US MAGAZINE ABOUT GOV PALIN COVER.

LOSERS!

delphinefromfrance – It may just be the case that the MEDIA is not reporting what the delegates are saying … remember that Hillary put out 3 press releases after the Texas caucus fraud where there were 2,000 complaints and documented fraud , and the MEDIA did not pick up even ONE of her press releases …

#531 Hi Mzebest

How are you ?
It’s a long time since we haven’t spoken together !

Did everyone join the new democratic party that we got an e-mail about? I missed the whole month of August here at PUMA Pac because I got sick and had to have an operation. I was just wondering if everyone joined and if you can tell me more about it. Thanks!

#525 OnlyHill

Thank you SO much for posting that link! I knew of Hillary’s position on Refuge – which is one of the many wonderful things about her – but I had never read her official statement.

And thank you for noticing the difference between disaggreement and disrespect.

Bristol Palin’s baby daddy is ‘psyched’ to be father, says his pal (Photo’s Included)

The cold-country hockey jock who knocked up the 17-year-old daughter of Sen. John McCain’s running mate is “psyched” to be a baby daddy, his pals said.

A day after 18-year-old Levi Johnston was revealed as the future father of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s grandchild, his closest friends touted him as a standup dude.

“Of course he is psyched to be a father,” said Blake Weiland, 18. “I mean he loves the idea of being a father and raising a child.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

Hay hay Pumas.

The Obamatrons at my work still have got nothing. Today I heard how Palin shoots wolves from a helicopter. What? Uh,.. wolves are not high on my list of concerns, hello?

Then I hear one Obot say just look at the odds in Vegas, they show Obamas going to win! WHAT?? What the heck do people base there vote on?

Teen Pregnancy
Wolves
The odds in Vegas

God help us.

Greenfun you have mail back from my sbcglobal account. You say Gmail but to tell you the truth I only have a gmail account to chat with Go, and I have forgotten the login and password on it.

#484 Kempion on 09.03.08 at 4:04 pm

#481 BillieJo

Was there a point in here somewhere? Your attempt to use me as an example of some—thing failed.
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Now you are attacking me too?
What the heck is wrong with you? I was trying to call Go back to the blog and didn’t say anything to you at all.

Hey BillieJo,
How’s the weather up there?

544 mzebest
She must be busy.
Thanks.

Slyt2

Skins!

#559 BillieJo – and the handful of others who have been taking shots at me today -

I haven’t attacked anyone.

YOU made reference to ME, as have others. If you don’t understand that implication is reference, then you need to learn it. You quoted a knock against me. What have I said to you previously to cause you to go out of your way to do this to me?

Disagree with me if you like; however, calling me out – directly or indirectly – or simply calling me names (such as troublemaker) won’t win you or anyone else favor with me. It’s discriminatory and empty since I have not said two words to you or those others who feel the need to address me in such a way.

I don’t have any ill-will toward anyone here.

However, I accept I will be misunderstood.

Delphine From France,

This will be my third trip to Paris, I’m hooked, and if I were a millionaire I would move there ! I love the city and the architecture and especially the Luxembourg Gardens. I go to just enjoy the city. And I haven’t been to Nice in many many years and so I thought I’d visit again.

I will also be looking for a reasonable place to rent during hurricane season here in Florida, we have another three hurricanes coming and I’m beginning to wonder if I’ll be even able to fly out of here.

No, I speak Italian and Spanish in addition to English mother tongue, but whenever I try to speak Francais it comes out with an Italian accent and then the French people know immediately that I’m American- and after they stop laughing, they switch to English.

When I come home from my trip, I will begin a course in Francais, but I have done well making my way around in Italian.

No I dont know Lyon although I hear many people who have traveled there love it. Maybe one day I will make a side trip there, … although of course I drive in the U.S. I am not brave enough to drive in France or Italy –

I’m so glad that you are on this site and realize how our elections are stolen. Every time I have been in France I have been asked why we elected Bush and I tell them “we didn’t, the machines were fixed.” and then they, for the most part, understand.

Now the democrats are doing the same thing to us, stealing our votes and election ! c’est terrible e anche pozzo. Cry for America.

223# STAUNCHPATROIT

he is already done in my eyes for being so ignorant as to have this tomorrow night when McCain will be speaking!!!!!!

NO ONE INTERUPTED THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
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170 &179# PROWL~

thas why I posted that~ maybe cali puma’s can work with him on it.

Did anyone else hear this on tv? I heard that the opening season of football – which is tomorrow night when McCain gives his acceptance speech – was originally suppose to be last Thurs, but it was changed when they made out the football schedule for this year so it would not interfere with the Dem Convention.

I must say though – GO REDSKINS!!!

Has anyone anyone heard of this woman Angie Coiro some radio person is all I really know, she was asking questions about PUMA’s and not being really nice, not horrible but not nice. I guess I feel if she wanted to know about us why not ask us why ask people who don’t know us or don’t like us.

574 Middle age female -I agree with you 95% … GO COLTS !!!

CALIFORNIANS

Just finished viewing the videos on the CA Dem Party web site from the 3 breakfasts during the convention. Took notes and in the process of transcribing for some work that I’m doing. Below are highlights from the Mon 8/25 breakfast. If you want the 8/26 and 8/27 leave a post with a heading that’s easy to find. If no one’s interested I won’t bother posting those. Meanwhile, as an fyi, the videos do NOT show Clinton speaking to the delegates or any of the actual voting. However, I’ve found many of what speaker’s had to say interesting in light of all of what has transpired.
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MONDAY 8/25 BREAKFAST

Art Torres, CA Dem Party Chair
Makes a rather ironic statement while referring to voter demographics: “…it’s the women who win elections in 2008.”

Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House
Pushes Obama as the candidate

Dean Florez, CA State Senator
Observes how quiet the CA delegation is; Alinsky style, instructs delegates to “stand and join in a chant” says their “mantra at this convention” should be “We are one!!!” States, “…will make sure Barack Obama becomes our next President.”

Art Torres
Before introducing next speaker notes that “Obama raised 42 million in CA.”

Lt. Gov. John Garamendi
Pitches Obama and the whole “yes we can” chant

Jack O’Connell, Sup of Public Instruction
Notes that he wasn’t the first choice to speak in this slot, but others weren’t available, and among the “others” he lists are Hillary Clinton and after a few more names are mentioned, ends with Paris Hilton.
Pushes the Obama/Biden ticket

John Chiang, State Controller
Pushes Obama

Debra Bowen, Sec’y of State
Discusses constitutional right to vote, the importance of ballots being honored, counted, etc. Referring to the GE, notes that in CA, we wouldn’t do anything to contribute to an unwanted presidency; makes a big issue of types of voting machines and wanting to do everything possible to make sure all voting is accurate.

((((ANNA)))))

I gotta get off the computer for now. See you all later.

#580 diva2

And… Indonesia does not allow for dual-citizenship. Correct?

#553 JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The cold-country hockey jock who knocked up the 17-year-old

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE JUST ONE MORE FREAKING DISGUSTING DOWNGRADING POMPUS ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE THOSE TERMS!!!!!!!! YOU COULDNT SHOW SOME RESPECT SINCE I AM SUUE YOU KNOW WE ARE PISSED ALREADY ON SEXIST BS MEN SPEW TOWARDS WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!

YOU COULD HAVE JUST SAID PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!

127 Beca4Hillary

I emailed that article to Oreilly@foxnews.com – great article, thanks.

I asked him to please question him about it, also, why is NObama not strongly condemning his supporters and bloggers for making ugly and unnecessary comments against Gov. Palin.

382 goandersen

If Grassley turns up dead, then we really know it’s a conspiracy…

#587
Ditto!!!

#592
I thought the quote was just the ‘psyched’. I guess my mistake also. Sorry John!!!!!!!!!!!!

#569 Kelli ,

Great ! I’m happy to learn you love Paris !
You’re right, French people have not understood why you elected Bush a first time, and then reelected him a second time !
That’s probably the reason why they are all pro-Obama here in France : they think he will be exactly the opposite… And they’re sure he’ ll stop the war in Iraq… Most French people believe he voted against the war and don’t know he was not in the Senate at that time ! !

Hello all,
Has ladyhawkke come around? Ladyhawkke, if you come by and read this please let me know if someone from TX has sent the letter. I’m still at work and haven’t been able to get that done. Also, can I fax the letter? I can do that tomorrow.

Also, Murphy’s initial comments for this thread make me wonder if we shouldn’t keep asking much more pointed questions about the caucus fraud issues and the convention/roll call. To me, that is a big deal. It is at the heart of why I could never vote for BO.

Best,
Lara08

547 delphinefromfrance

“How are you ?
It’s a long time since we haven’t spoken together !”

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LOL! I agree. Things are going well… right now trying to multitask by doing my work but also keeping up with the news on the blog. Thanks for posting that article. I also saw someone post this excellent article by Buchanan (worth reposting). Who would have thought I’d see the day when I agree with someone like Pat Buchanan. LMAO!

http://buchanan.org/blog/2008/08/pjb-and-if-obama-loses/

Mama here

When Murphy is trying to find her towed car and has now certainly be abducted by alien gypsies, it is not the time to attach each other.

You MUST BE POLITE to each other. Disabgree without name calling and sarcasm.

Don’t get Mama mad

All the Denver PUMAs know that a mad MAMA is a bad MAMA

Thanks Emme

#564 BillieJo

“I really wish that there were PUMA dings for nasty behavior…”

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There is — don’t enable or validate. Just ignore… it’s the worst you could ever do to their egos.

I am one of the PUMAS who will have a difficult time voting for McCain because of the social issues. But for me it is going to be worth it to see VP Palin sitting in the top seat in front of Congress on TV during the State of the Union speech given by McCain. Since both houses of Congress meet together for the State of the Union, Pelosi, Obama, and Reid will have to sit there and watch this. The prospect of that sight alone and the belief that a McCain victory is the only way we are going to reform the DNC. An Obama victory means that Pelosi and Obama can foist their undemocratic ways of governing on the party.

I tried to do the prowl and am just reporting in. Called the DNC and asked for the Chair. Was told he wasn’t available and would be hard to reach, so I asked the gentleman who could provide me with a breakdown of the breakfast vote for our state from the Convention. He said he could give it to me and would email it later today. That was this morning. It is now 5:30 and haven’t gotten anything. Somehow I’m not surprised. Will try again tomorrow.

OK, I have been saying this all along … I know most of you don’t agree with me that Palin is not helping McCain! But here is what the republicans (Mike Murphy and Peggy Noonan – Regan speech writer) are saying; CAUGHT ON LIVE MIKE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Please watch and tell me what you think … I don’t like the sound of this! Am I being paranoid?

# 535 Pamawo-

Art Torrres info Phone # (916) 442-5707 Fax # (916) 442-5715.

Let me know if you need anything else.

#542 gogandalf

yes, I’m here, but lurking since I’m at work. didn’t see your post until just now.

what’s up?

What’s been going on? I haven’t had cable for the past two weeks….

#611 onelove I didn’t doubt for a moment that not all the Repubs are Happy over McCains choice but whoa did everyone listen to that? I wonder if that is going to show up on the news or if BO’s camp will get a hold of it they would have a great time with that.

Not to say one of my room mates has something against me and thinks that it is to cold when a room is at 73 or 75 degrees….and thinks that a room at 90 is perfect….

#335 why did redraz leave?

My lone post for the day.

I started not hating Sarah Palin until I saw this quote:

“Palin is anti-abortion rights, belongs to the National Rifle Association and is a conservative Republican. And she’s been critical of Clinton, calling the New York senator’s charges of “sexist” news coverage — whining.”

Whining? I mean seriously. Especially with how often the GOP throws out the sexism charges going around lately.

She’s a new face in the political spectrum of course the press is going to jump on any story they find.

In the interest of full disclosure that was from CNN.

Still undecided on my vote for Nov.

I just had a little fun, went over to O’Reilly’s, they want to know what he should ask NObama at the interview:

Comment by Bruce55555
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Questions for O’Reilly to ask of Barack H. Obama:
1: You’re not an American citizen, why the fake birth certificate? Thought you’d get away with it?

2: Please call off your goons, enough on the attacks against Governor and VP nominee Sarah Palin, her newborn baby, her daughter, and husband.

3: What’s the latest with Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Louis Farakhan, Tony Rezko, Ayers, and all the other shady characters in Chicago?

4: How did your apology go with Alice Palmer? Did she accept your apology for unfaily kicking her out before the elections in Chicago?

5: How did your apology go with Hillary Clinton? Did she accept your apology for unfairly kicking her out before the democratic national convention?

6: How many Europeans and Arabs are coming here to vote for you?

7: Like Delphine from a previous post brought up: Why the Islamic name of Barack Hussein Obama, if you are a Christian like you claim?

This is it for now, I’ll be back with more.”

Phew!! this made me feel a little better!!! :LOL:

#468 delphinefromfrance
Thank you for posting this…looks like some more of the delegates are willing to speak out about the scam rollcall.

627
sorry, it was at Greta’s

one love – yes you are being paranoid , but it’s ok because they know where you are and they ARE out to get you !!!!!

has hillary come out and made a statement condemning those nasty smear jobs on governor palins family?

#627 Bruce55555 – way to go!

8: tell us how you are going to stop voter fraud.

9: what is your connection to ACORN

Couple of suggestions for your next mail

Awesome job

hi everybody
Just called NV State Chair-
“Out of 32 or 33, Hillary got 8 votes.”
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He was very nice. Is this what we were doing? Is there more to it? Don’t have time to read everything.

#601 Mzebest

I’ve been busy too !

Thank you for the link to Buchanan’s article : I had read it already a few days ago, and I had the same feeling as you ! I told myself : my God ! I agree with this man ! that is terrible !
Do you remember how hateful he was during the 1992 convention when he spoke about Hillary, when he accused her of being the devil itself, encouraging children to sue their parents, etc…
It’s funny to finally approve of what he says now so many years after !

o’reilly will fold like cheap suit when obama is on his show..
look for him to throw him softballs and kisseees after he gets the “tingle”

Green papers show B0 with only 17 delegates ahead – far less than the RBC gift from Mi to say the least

#625 StealingHistoryFromHillary on 09.03.08 at 5:38 pm
My lone post for the day.
I started not hating Sarah Palin until I saw this quot “Palin is anti-abortion rights, belongs to the National Rifle Association and is a conservative Republican. And she’s been critical of Clinton, calling the New York senator’s charges of “sexist” news coverage — whining.”
Yes she is Pro life but what’s wrong with National Rifle Association my husband belongs does that make him a bad person We all here saw the interview and all she said was perceived as a whiny if that was even exactly what she said but I can provide you with the link if you would like it wasn’t horrible