Labor Day Share

 

UPDATE 9/1/08 AT 12:17PM: Please read Riverdaughter’s Post on the BBC Blog about Pumas and the Power of REAL Unity. Puma comments needed. Read it HERE.

Happy Labor Day Puma PAC! One of my favorite bumper stickers is “Labor Unions: The Folks Who Brought You the Weekend.” The Obama Movement often tries to pretend that we are rich, lazy housewives with nothing better to do than sit around and whine like sore losers, or worse — Republicans.

We all know this is not true. In comments let us know what you do for a living (if you’re retired, what you DID for a living) and whether you love your job or mostly do it to pay the bills. Also, let us know if you have health insurance.

Relax and enjoy the day. Our minds and thoughts are all on the Gulf Coast this morning as Gustav bears down. Stay safe and wonderful to each other Puma PAC — today is a new day!

964 comments ↓

#1 Huong on 09.01.08 at 9:01 am

:lol:

#2 murphy on 09.01.08 at 9:01 am

Hi Huong!

#3 Sagepuma on 09.01.08 at 9:02 am

Repost:

Greta is asking if PUMAs are real. She has gotten 1400 comments so far. If you haven’t done so already, please leave a comment or post the link to any other site you have access to. Thanks!

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/30/puma/#comment-1727941

#4 tec1965 on 09.01.08 at 9:02 am

morning puma !

#5 Huong on 09.01.08 at 9:02 am

good morning PUMAs!
have a great holiday!
dont forget to watch GOP convention in MN
;)

#6 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 9:05 am

GOOD MORNING MURPHY
I hope you have rested & recharged youself with good energy

#7 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 9:05 am

G’morning and Happy Labor Day.
Kinda sad to see “Rosie” up there today. I’m a union member and totally pissed that they are in the TANK for obama. :(
Have a good one guys.

#8 Huong on 09.01.08 at 9:05 am

hi Murphy :)
i am sooo lucky today ;)

#9 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 9:05 am

textasturtle, great¡¡¡¡¡¡

#10 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 9:06 am

HAPPY LABOR , to all of you in USA

#11 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 9:06 am

Good Morning Pumas, I thought I would share a guide for gardening.

HOW TO PLANT YOUR GARDEN
First, you come to the garden alone,
While the dew is still on the roses……

For the Garden of your Daily Living,

Plant Three Rows of Peas:
1. Peace of mind
2. Peace of heart
3. Peace of soul

Plant Four Rows of Squash:
1. Squash gossip
2. Squash indifference
3. Squash grumbling
4. Squash selfishness

Plant Four Rows of Lettuce:
1. Lettuce be faithful
2. Lettuce be kind
3. Lettuce be patient
4. Lettuce really love one another

No Garden is Without Turnips:
1. Turnip for mettings
2. Turnip for service
3. Turnip to help one another

To Conclude Our Garden We Must Have Thyme:
1. Thyme for each other
2. Thyme for family
3. Thyme for friends
4. Thyme for oneself

Water freely With Patience and Cultivate With Love.

There Is Much Fruit In your Garden Because You Reap What You Sow.

I am sorry that I do not have the name of the person who originally wrote this guide, but I thank her for her insight and may God Bless he/her!

#12 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:09 am

#726 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:01 am Good morning All… trust you all slept well… thinking of all the people down south…

Watched the sorry excuse for a man named Fowler leave his….ooops I am sorry I got caught saying what I did and sorry if I offended anyone… sorry excuse for a sorry…and how stupid I was to even think it…

With all the chaos in the Democratic party, he should be praying for God to shut his sorry mouth… with all the people down south affected by this mass exodus and terrible storm he can only think that it will disrupt the DNCC…. what a amoral excuse for a human being.

#13 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 9:09 am

THANK YOU Terry Do

#14 yellowMcpuma08 on 09.01.08 at 9:12 am

Good morning lovely Pumas, Today is labor day and thanks God we don’t have to work, so enjoy the day, take care of yourselves and be safe. Thank you Murphy for all you have done,and to all Puma pack have a great day

#15 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 9:14 am

O O O I blogged about CNN being scum and received this comment:
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fsudirectory
jaike2@gmail.com | 76.108.11.36

Id like to know why the PUMA PAC Leader Murphy released e-mails of people that did not support them and go as far as to threaten people and say they are Obama Private Investigators!!

http://www.nopuma.com

From CNN is SCUM!, 2008/09/01 at 4:40 AM
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NOTE: Now I ‘know’ that PUMAs didn’t threaten anyone..however Murphy might want to address this.

#16 LilyMaid on 09.01.08 at 9:15 am

#712 texaspony from prior Thread “Sunday Night Recap”…..This post was actually written by Texas Turtle

I went to your site and read your declaration. I was inspired, angered and motivated. You did a great job remaining true to the spirit of the speech.
Thank you. I would like to repost your site

http://texasturtle.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/war-declared-on-the-dnc-obamanation/

#17 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 9:15 am

Good morning Puma’s #12 bmw60 what is this about, that man apologized for what he said, did they play it on the news I was at a labor day party all day and nite I didn’t watch TV.

#18 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 9:19 am

Good morning Pumas !!

I just told Greta I was real.

#19 prowlland on 09.01.08 at 9:20 am

You want to know what I did… well I was a bussiness owner….
I made more money than My hubby… when we were young…
He was making more than me in about 3 years…
Now i stay home raising Grandkids.. most rewarding job God ever gave someone. We have an adopted daughter… my best friend.

#20 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 9:21 am

slyt2 #17:
Sometimes people only apologize for ‘getting caught’ – get it? And then sometimes ‘sorry’ just isn’t enough.

#21 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 9:26 am

“In comments let us know what you do for a living (if you’re retired, what you DID for a living) and whether you love your job or mostly do it to pay the bills. Also, let us know if you have health insurance”

-public elementary school teacher 23 years
-LOVE my job . . wouldn’t do anything else . . it’s more than a job, I consider it a ministry
-have great health insurance, but know that not everyone is as fortunate as me

#12 bmw60 Whose Fowler? Haven’t been able to be on much lately. What did I miss?

#22 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:26 am

Yes, this sorry a$$ FOWLER said he was dismayed that anyone would record him… and he seemed to think that his freedom of speech was infringed on…

#23 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:27 am

he was the DNC leader for some time and he was on a plane and said… this hurricane that is hitting the gulf coast was an act of god… and laughed…

#24 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:28 am

because it would disrupt the RN Convention…

#25 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 9:28 am

Rancho:
http://mrpresidentjohnmccain.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/breaking-former-dnc-chair-inserts-foot-big-time/
Comment Fowler made…ya gotta listen. It’s horrible!

#26 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:28 am

He got caught alright… someone had a cell phone and recorded the whole thing

#27 bmw60 on 09.01.08 at 9:30 am

I am out of here for a day trip to Lancaster and a BIG craft show…… be well all of you…..

I am retired… due to handicap, but do a lot of crafts… to give as gifts…

Getting my knees done next week…

#28 Caracal Carrie on 09.01.08 at 9:35 am

I am a buyer for core automotive parts.

I love that I get to do my job from home, hate that the market is so up and down, so paydays can sometimes be pretty far apart.

No insurance. They offer it at my hubby’s work, but it is veerrryyy expensive.

#29 mkp651 on 09.01.08 at 9:35 am

Good morning Pumas. Noticed Murphy you have ask us to let everyone know what we do or did for a living.

I am a 58 year old women who worked in special education most of my life. When my parents died in the 90′s I brought my brother and sister who are downs to live with me. I no longer am able to work outside of the home as they require 24 hour attention. I do get paid for taking care of they 7 out of the 24 hours. I do this because I love them and all the joy I get from being with them. My brother is 50 and I am in awe of this sweet gentle sole. This wonderful man has never in his life ever hurt anyone by words or deeds. I for one love my job!

#30 lookingforguidance07 on 09.01.08 at 9:38 am

I work my you know what off as a nurse–shift work. While I don’t know if I can bring myself to vote Republican, I am conflicted to support the Democrats and DNC with all the overt and shady stuff that occurred during the primaries–and having fellow Democrats furious at me for supporting Hillary during the primaries. I thought the Democratic Party was supposed to be the party most supportive of women?–they sure threw their female candidate under the bus. One of the biggest things I can’t get over is that many of the superdelegates went for Obama when the voters in their district voted for Hillary–like Robert Byrd of W.Va. when Hillary won over 40% of the vote!! Secondly, I expected the right to crucify her–but then the left did too–and left women!!! I have tried to be open to Obama–but then he’s shifted positions and I can’t look back and see the voting record to know if he really will be true to my liberal positions. I have never been undecided before –kind of a weird feeling…I accept Hillary is out–with grace–but I am on the fence.

#31 mpk on 09.01.08 at 9:39 am

I am currently a professor -nurse/physiologist-teach physiology and pathophysiology at a local university in a college of nursing-great job! I am very blessed to have been able to spend my years as a nurse and now a teacher of nurses and a physiology researcher-for 10 years before I became a nurse I was a nursing assistant /student and loved that too! So I have been given much in life-

#32 prowlland on 09.01.08 at 9:40 am

Oh and yes we have heath insurance now ..but ——
When i was 10 years old..we didn’t have health insurance… that was when my Dad lost his farm…
It was a combination of getting crops hailed out and my hospital bills… I had open heart surgery when i was 10…

#33 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 9:40 am

Oh I have to goggle this one and see if someone wrote about his ” opps sorry” , i wrote every single media station yesterday and emailed Fowler also. I wish I could have seen that I pray to god the media blasted him somewhat for what he said. I hope he is embarrassed I know if I was his family I would be.

#34 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 9:41 am

#25 elect2009 WOW! Thank you for posting . . It took me time to get back on. I had to send it to a very vocal friend! Do tell me someone has sent it to Hannity, or some place where it MIGHT get exposure. It looked like it had a lot of hits!

#35 NJ1313 on 09.01.08 at 9:41 am

GLAD fOWLER GOT CAUGHT AND IT WAS ON THE NEWS. BUT WHERE, I DIDN’T SEE THE APOLOGY?
I e-mailed him last night.

#36 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 9:41 am

#27…bmw60…I see you are having your knees done next week. My mother had one done last year and now she walks without pain. Good luck and do all the exercises afterward !

#37 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 9:42 am

I just posted a novel about my journey to becoming a puma on the new “no puma ” site if anyone cares to take a gander .
http://www.nopuma.com/2008/08/31/puma-releases-e-mails-of-those-opposed/#comment-14

#38 doria on 09.01.08 at 9:46 am

Are we off politics today? Forgive me if I send you to this post…scroll down to P. Diddy. These are the Obamaphiles the DNC has chosen to ally with. I could not be more disgusted!

http://countusout.wordpress.com/

Have a great Labor Day, Pumas.

#39 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 9:48 am

Opps sorry started reading post before I read what Murphy wrote. I am a Domestic Engineer , my husband is a cement mason (concrete) .
#34 Rancho yes I did I sent a article and the utube to several media’s including Hannity in hopes it would get air play.

#40 LotusBoy on 09.01.08 at 9:48 am

I am a software / management consultant and do independent assignments and contract work. I do pay for my own insurance and plan my revenue / expense etc the way one should. My insurance just went up plenty this month for the new fiscal year, but instead of whining, I am looking to marginally increase my income.
Motto – Help yourseleves before you ask for help from others (goverment included)

#41 Hillgirl on 09.01.08 at 9:51 am

Repost from downstairs,

Good morning PUMAs,
For those of you who are collecting information about the sham roll call in Denver here is a website that is doing the same thing. Murphy, you probably know this already, but Shtuey is hosting this site which is collecting data about the intimidation of delegates. Perhaps a coalition on this project would be helpful.

http://rollcallsham.blogspot.com/

Also, Heidi Li has a great and beautiful letter from Marsha Pappas, President of the New York NOW which she wrote to Hillary. Just magnificent.

Finally, I posted above about how Obama responded to the impending natural disaster, Gustav. It is essential that we all take heed of the less than inclusive language in his comments. While McCain was inclusive of Dems and Republicans in his call for awareness and help in this impending crisis–asking all Americans to participate, Obama was only interested in flexing his imperial muscles stating that HE could get HIS supporters to help out. This is highly significant in that it speaks to his overall arrogance, narcissism, and lack of leadership by excluding those who do not support him. As I keep saying, this is a PREVIEW of a presidency which will also be EX-clusive–meaning that if you don’t support him you will be EX-cluded. Casual comments such as this are more indicative of the character of an individual than a scripted speech. Buyer beware!
Have a great day everyone and let us pray for the people and animals in the path of this horrendous storm.

#42 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 9:52 am

Well here is his “sorry” sounds like excuses and sounds half a*sed to me
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/01/ex-dnc-chair-sorry-for-hurricane-gaffe/

#43 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 9:54 am

Happy Labor Day !!!
My great grandmothers were Rosie the Riviters and I still have one of my Great Grandma’s Delco Remy Id card ! :)
My whole family has been union members for several generations . My mother was the first woman President of what was the larges Union in the UAW . ( 18,000 members ) After I got out of the Marine Corps ( I was a K-9 MP ) I worked on the line and as a Bargaining Rep and in Civil rights for 11 years . Thye closed all of our plants in Anderson ,Indiana so my partner and I had to move to the Shreveport plant and we have lived in east Tx. ( yeeee hawwwww )for the last 4 years . They are now getting rid of this plant so we took buy outs and I went to school to become a Medic ( still going for RN ) . Making a man’s heart start beating again with my own 2 hands 2 days before Christmas was one of the greatest feelings I have ever had ! :) I have always been , and I always will be a Democrat , but I WILL get my party back to faithfully representing it’s core values . Peace Pumas !

#44 Hillgirl on 09.01.08 at 9:55 am

Hello, again! In response to Murphy’s request, I have my Ph.D and I am the director of a graduate education program in a local university. I worked as a psychotherapy clinician for 22 years prior to going into academia. Hillary was a spokeswoman for recognizing that mental health benefits needed to be equitable to those of medical health benefits. Those who suffer with mental illness are a huge constituency of the invisible Americans. I am so proud to be amongst the PUMAs who are a dedicated, diverse, and generous people. Happy Labor Day!

#45 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 9:55 am

#25 elect2009
“I thought the Democratic Party was supposed to be the party most supportive of women?”
I found this in my archives. I failed to site where it came from. I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN . . BUT FOUND IT INTERESTING.
Republican Women
Standing in sharp contrast to the two existing political parties’ present stereotypes regarding minorities and women, once again the Republican Party was the vanguard in relation to women. In 1917, Jeanette Rankin, a Montana Republican, became the first woman to serve in the House. Committed to her pacifist beliefs, she was the only member of Congress to vote against entry into both World War I and the World War II

Shortly after Rankin’s election to Congress, the 19th Asmendment was passed in 1919. The amendment’s journey to ratification had been a long and difficult one. Starting in 1896, the Republican Party became the first major party to officially favor women’s suffrage. That year, Republican Sen. A.A. Sargent of California introduced a proposal in the Senate to give women the right to vote. The proposal was defeated four times in the Democratic-controlled Senate. When the Republican Party regained congrol of Congress, the Equal Suffrage Amendment finally passed (304-88). Only 16 Republicans opposed the amendment.

When the amendment was submitted to the states, 26 of the 36 states that ratified it had Republican-controlled legislatures. Of the nine states that voted against ratification, eight were controlled by Democrats. Twelve states, all Republican, had given women full suffrage before the federal amendment was finally ratified.

#46 RickKS on 09.01.08 at 9:56 am

I am currently a recovering stay-at-home dad.

In my previous life I was a Systems manager but the need arose for one to stay home and since my income was less so I took that job. (It was the highlight of my life)

I homeschooled both of the kids. The youngest just started college and I am ready to get my life back.

My partner and I pay for health insurance on our own. Talk about sticker shock….

#47 LilyMaid on 09.01.08 at 9:56 am

#27 bmw60
Enjoy Long’s Park, if that is where you are going. The park is having its annual fantastic crafts show.

#48 jadwiga on 09.01.08 at 9:56 am

My jobs?
I was an accountant/bookkeeper (whatever came), until I couldn’t take the overtimes anymore. Now I wait for Medicare to kick in and grow tropical plants for sale. Until last year business was good.
My husband is an unemployed carpenter for over a year. This means, we will move soon. Whith the dogs. Just don’t know yet where.
I wish I would be a rich housewife. Or a well off housewife. Or a fairly poor one. This is beyond anything I ever could forsee.

#49 murphy on 09.01.08 at 9:58 am

I’m a volunteer political activitst and blogger.

No health insurance, but my husband is a software consultant and we pay $1500 a month for insurance.

Before that I was a college student, a secretary for a school committee, owned a construction company , and before that — published a community newspaper.

Never enough to pay the bills, and that’s still true — But I have always (pretty much) loved what I do.

#50 NJ1313 on 09.01.08 at 9:59 am

I am retired school librarian and computer instructor. Watch my granddaughter now with my husband who is also a retired teacher.

#51 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 10:00 am

Oh I forgot about the healt insurance – I have none but pay $600 a month for my twin girls who are both athletes and racked up $8,000.00 in ER visits and MRIs last year with injuries that their ‘insurance’ doesn’t cover !!!

#52 Sagepuma on 09.01.08 at 10:01 am

I see there are a few nurses on this blog. I too, am an RN. I previouly worked in ICU and now as a House Supervisor, (meaning I over see the hospital when upper managment is gone). I am just about to end a 12 hour shift, go home, sleep 5 hours, then come back to work again. I actually only work part-time, usually on weekend and holidays. My husband carries the health insurance for myself and our 3 kids(age 3,4 and 6)

#53 mpdamon on 09.01.08 at 10:02 am

PUMAs are ” rich entitled Republicans”? I don’t think so.
I’m retired, worked in hospital administration, raised 3 kids on my own after husband decided to enter 2nd childhood. ( When I graduated from HS there wasn’t a college in MA that would accept a woman into an engineering program. ) So, I went to college nights ( while working days and raising children ) to do both undergrad and graduate work. After retiring I traveled and got my pilot’s license. Now I work part-time following my 1st love, designing buildings and gardens. I have 5 grandchildren and live on Cape Cod with my dog Yoda . . .who looks like, Yoda.

#54 mkp651 on 09.01.08 at 10:03 am

I also forgot health insurance. I am one of the lucky ones I have insurance through my husbands state of california retirement.

#55 OnlyHill on 09.01.08 at 10:03 am

#30 lookingforguidence07

I’m having the same struggle. The way that puts me OK with my decision is to vote for Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente, http://www.gp.org/index.php. This is an MSM ignored historical team whose VALUES and issue align with mine. The key to all this is to make sure we elect a progressive congress.

Hope this helps.

#56 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 10:03 am

I am a retired Mental Health/Chemical Dependency therapist. I have a Masters Degree, and several minor degrees. I worked for a HMO so had great ins. Now I have ins through my husband, who works for the gov. Kids all grown and gone. Love the grandkids.

#57 Lorelai on 09.01.08 at 10:06 am

Dem4Hillary —-you asked late last night about what speech did Hillary say “when knocked down, not knocked out etc. etc….” It was her victory speech at the Ohio Democrat Primary evening standing with Ted Strickland and Stephanie Tubbs Jones :(

#58 mpdamon on 09.01.08 at 10:06 am

Rancho – interesting info. I did not know that. Makes good argument for me voting Republican this election.
( I keep saying it to get used to the sound . . . still doesn’t sound right. ) But if I wait for the DNC to come around we may be up to the 2024 election.

#59 Rabblerouser on 09.01.08 at 10:06 am

Good Morning, fellow PUMAs. Thought I’d check in while I was enjoying a cup of tea and looking out at this beautiful day (here in VT).

I’m a high school Librarian and put a lot of emphasis on accurate information (which I never seem to find in the MSM). Reluctantly, our school board provides health insurance, but we have to fight for it (and all our benefits) every time contract time comes around. I am part of the the NEA, our union which has done a lot for us.

As a hobby I breed and show dogs.

Saw that Fowler apologized, but he also complained that his private comments were publicized by some “rightwing nutcase”. I guess since we’re all offended by his comments, that we too are “rightwing nutcases”. Hmmm….

#60 missy1208 on 09.01.08 at 10:07 am

Thanks Sagepuma, I blogged to Greta, I use to read her blog, when Hillary, was still a candidate!!
To everyone enjoy Labor Day, to our friends in Louisiana, you have our prayers and love!!

Here is my post to gretawire:

I am definately for real I will never ever vote for the dems choice this year, there are a group of us that went to the Nevada DNC, and we are going to for the first time in our adult lives vote for McCain/Palin, a Republican, and not all of us are PUMAS, we want it to rain McCain.
Most of us are tired of the dem party giving us un-electable candidates, this is the first time I really got involved with supporting a candidate, and I don’t like the way Senator Clinton, was treated, I think the dems knew they wanted *61, and no matter what the results showed, this is who we were going to be stuck with! I say no way, this man likes credibility, he was never vetted, he has little or no experience and I hope the democratic party pays for their mistake, with all that is going on in the world, we do not need someone who votes present!
I am tired of people saying PUMA’s are racist, we are just tired of Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazile, and yes Harry Reid, my senator telling us to fall in line, no way will I ever vote for a person that is not American, enough for me, John McCain, is a true American.
Sara Palin, does not represent my views, she does not take the place of Hillary, at all! I just think the democratic party has stopped listening to the people that vote for them.
I think *61’s supporters are rude and have no class, everyone knows what happened with the caucuses and no one did anything about it, just like a blind eye was turned to the treatment of Senator Clinton, and Former President Bill Clinton, no way, what Bill said, was racist, it is a fact, deal with it. You want racist Michelle Obama, Jeremiah Wright, (and no he does not deserve to be called a Reverand) you talk about scary!!

missy1208 a Proud African American PUMA!!

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, and know I am not bitter, I just think we missed the chance to have a “GREAT CANDIDATE!”

Please Post: http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/30/puma/#comment-1727941

#61 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 10:07 am

#37 TexasTigress I went and read that it was very good and I thought you really made good points, stating how you came to the be a Puma.

#62 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 10:08 am

I forgot to say my hubby is also retired Air Force, which gave us a great opportunity to travel and live many interesting places overseas and stateside. We use to move an average of every two years.

#63 Hillgirl on 09.01.08 at 10:08 am

#11 TerryDo–Love the Garden metaphor. THANK YOU. It is just beautiful.

#64 Hillgirl on 09.01.08 at 10:11 am

#61- Great post, Missy. You go girl! It is great to read the Greta blog so if you haven’t done it, give yourself a treat to see how many PUMAs have reported in!

#65 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 10:11 am

#46 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 9:55 am
Thanks for that info.

#66 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 10:12 am

#59 mpdamon ( I keep saying it to get used to the sound . . . still doesn’t sound right. ) I SO AGREE!

CAN YOU IMAGINE, THO! CLINTON AND PALIN 2008!?
WOW! WOULDN’T THAT BE FUN TO SEE! MAY THE BEST WOMAN WIN!

#67 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 10:13 am

Does anyone know who started that no puma site ? Is it someone who was on here for a time ? They wrote a very nice response to my post :

admin | 1/09/08
Texas Tig,

I thank you for a great post and someone actually with beliefs and not crazy ranting. I also applaud you for not going and swearing to vote for McCain, you are a great person and I hope that maybe one day your vote can be won back.

I think the majority of us don’t rant and swear . I really think most pumas come from the same position of being anti-corruption and disenfranchisement . I wish more people understood that …

#68 hillaryistheone on 09.01.08 at 10:17 am

I have worked in IT (Information Technology) for the last 12 years. Started college when I was 43, was going to get a degree in accounting…but in my first semester I fell in love with the computer.

I very much enjoy my job. I do have health insurance. It is still very hard to make ends meet today with the price of gas, utility, food and housing.

I am also raising my 5 year old grandson. I am a MOM at 58…LOL.

#69 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 10:17 am

#15 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 9:14 am

I support Murphy FULLY to publish email addresses of those people who try to post their invectives in this blog. A righteous person will NOT hide the devil, but exposed him/her.

They’ve NOT shown any respect for Murphy’s privacy, they’ve publish even her home address all over the internet. RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT. Are they embarass now their friends and family members visiting this blog READ and SEE how vicious they are when they thought no one knows them?

As we expose hate organizations in this country, we too has a MORAL OBLIGATION to our fellow Americans to EXPOSE hatred of NObama supporters. All this hatred can be CREDITED TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, he expressed his hatred and disdain for Hillary using subtlety. Even his supporters who are famous like Jay_Z married to Beyonce Knowles said in his rap during NObama rally (Nobama was there) “bro before ho’s). Did NObama say anything about it? Hell no! He condoned it!

#70 FLgayGuy4Hill on 09.01.08 at 10:21 am

Good Morning PUMAs!

I work in healthcare as head of new business development and product development for a hospital bill audit firm. We audit hospital bills making sure that they are accurate and appropriately billed. My company is only about 50 people. We are privately held and owned by two women who grew the company organically from its infancy. I love working for women and honestly hope I’ll retire from this firm. :)

#71 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 10:23 am

Hey Murphy you got mail if you could look really quick, thanks :)

#72 yellowMcpuma08 on 09.01.08 at 10:23 am

My sisters and I owe a small CNC machine shop(here in Illinois) where we manufacture parts per print ( this is a man job) but we are women on charge . For the last almost seven years the manufactury industry has been struggling so bad in this country due to a high porcentage of manufactury been shipped to china and that is one of our biggest concern of we the small business force of this country. Hillary was the only one who brougth this “subject ” during her campain. We don’t belive Nobama can do something about this, he is so weak to conduct business. -I bet you he has no clue what a CNC stand for- So today is labor day , so we are off today -

#73 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 10:25 am

Goodmorning,
As some of you know, a local superdelegate has been posting a blog about the convention. I don’t know what to make of all of this. To me, it is just higher level arm twisting than just a Clinton whip throwing a fit about unity. But read for yourself. You can write a response on the link that I posted below… I do have on some level, regained some respect for this person even though I’m still angry about him raising a “koolaid” (champagne) glass with the governor on the front page of the paper at their unity brunch the day of the final primary. I tthink on some level this is about people keeping positions..

http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/dnc2008/2008/08/the-american-dream.html

Vote for Hillary– Vote for Obama

On Wednesday morning at our delegation breakfast we discussed the procedure for casting our votes for president. The TNDP staff had a tally sheet that we were to sign and to place a check mark under the name of either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I voted for Hillary and went to change clothes to head downtown for the final Hillary for President delegate reception and speech.

Some of the Obama delegates called and asked me to change my vote to Obama in the interest of party unity. As a so-called super delegate, I was not bound by Tennessee law that requires a vote for the candidate to whom one is pledged. I told them that I would think about it, but I was not doing anything until I spoke with HIllary.

I then went downtown to the CCA luncheon and then over to the Convention Center for the reception. I saw Ann Lewis (Hilllary staffer, confidant and sometime alter-ego) at the reception and told her about the requests for me to vote for Obama. I asked her what to do?

I also saw Terry McAuliffe and asked him what to do. He took me back stage. As I was standing there, Hillary walked up and gave me a hug. We spoke for a moment and she went in to the ballroom to give her speech.

When I heard her release her delegates, I walked out the back door of the back stage area. I was still undecided how to vote and the deadline for final voting was 42 minutes away.

I walked over to my rental car and sat in the car pondering–I had told many people that I would vote for Hillary on the first ballot and that it was important that she receive more votes than any other woman ever had. On the other hand, the Obama campaign wanted to have unified support from DNC Members and he was going to be the nominee.

Suddenly the phone rang from a 202 (Washington, DC) area code. I answered it and I was surprised at the voice. I said, “Thank you so much for this call. It means a lot to me.”

I then sent the following text message to, “Gray Sasser and TNDP. At the personal request of HRC, l request that my delegate vote for president be recorded for Barack Obama.”

Thus, at the risk of looking like John Kerry, I voted for Hillary and then I voted for Barack. This was a difficult decision, that without that call I would not have made.

#74 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 10:25 am

Asian4Hillary:
As I posted earlier #15-I blogged about CNN being SCUM because of the way they were actually treating Gov. Palin. Anyway..this person (see post) left that comment about Murphy. As for Murphy’s privacy…I’m aware that they’ve published LIES and personal info, however I also know that Murphy or any other PUMA would send ‘hate’ mail OR for that matter act as private investigators. You just can’t make this stuff up that people come up with…As for nobama – I’m so frustrated over him and he’s high falutting ass it’s beyond fairytales.

#75 BigCatLover on 09.01.08 at 10:27 am

#3 Sagepuma

So what’s the consensus on gretawire? Are pumas real? ;)

#76 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 10:27 am

I’m aware that Murphy or any other PUMA would NOT send hate mail or act as private investigators is what that should have said. My bad.

#77 elect2009 on 09.01.08 at 10:28 am

Why in the world would a nopuma person be HERE?

#78 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 10:29 am

Murphy did you get my email.. slypuma on duty here.lol

#79 taggles1 on 09.01.08 at 10:30 am

I work full time in IT sales. Have for the past 8 years or so. Took a short hiatus after my third lay off from the same company and was a medical assistant for 1 year. It just wasn’t for me, that is the understatement of the century, and went back into sales. I do have health insurance through my husbands work.

I have always loved sales, the pressure in sales to meet goals has always been a motivator for me. Although it is the same pressure sometimes that makes it very stressful.

#80 Notyoursweetie on 09.01.08 at 10:31 am

quote of the day
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/quote-of-the-day-2/

#81 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 10:31 am

I work with seniors, and I rescue lost animals and people. I have health insurance through work so I am lucky.

I want to state, after reading for a few hours the filth the (Democrats, MSM, etc) are writing about Gov. Palin that I would vote for her as a PROTEST vote NO MATTER WHAT. NO MATTER WHAT. I think that NARAL/NOW/DEMS should LOSE (i.e. women should walk for GOOD) all women who are members….COME BE PUMAS!!!

We protest vote this year, and then GO GO PUMA!!

#82 dcattorney on 09.01.08 at 10:33 am

I’m an attorney in DC; started as a union-side labor lawyer, joined the gov’t (Dept of Labor, DHHS), then went into private practice in the health law/government reimbursement area. I really like my job, I work hard and for good causes – to provide access to healthcare, equipment and heath services for low income and elderly people.
I support two people in college full time (husband and one son, with a second son headed for college next year). I have health insurance but I pay for it myself – about $1200/month for me and my family. The premiums went up 40% in 2008.

#83 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 10:34 am

no- puma – I dont put hate in my posts – I am guilty , however of posting nonsense on here when tensions get to high … I can’t help it , those Jack Handy quotes crack me up . I also think that , if you notice , tensions are the most high when someone is trying to force a candidate on everyone . That’s what the DNC did to us , and it is uncomfortable . Oh , I posted again on your site .

#84 BigCatLover on 09.01.08 at 10:34 am

I was a computer software tester. Very stressful job but I loved it. Had to retire after 2 heart procedures. And, I love retirement too, but my insurance coverage took a nosedive. I don’t think America really values our older folks. If you aren’t producing in the workforce, you’re extraneous. I got caught in the generation that stayed home and raised the children, then went back to work and struggled after a divorce to get financially sound. Then, I had to retire before I get a proper retirement built up. It happended to alot of my generation. But, we are very strong in spirit and are fighters.

#85 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 10:37 am

Morning Pumas – ALERT to MARYLAND PUMA – did you get the information from Drac regarding the officials up for re-election that went against HRC or got money from BO – my internet provider was down -

ALERT to any PUMA from PENNA –
from my count – Indiana, California, Ohio, Georgia, Utah and Florida have had a Puma file a complain with the Sec of State or other officials in charge of their State Elections – if we can get one of these officials to stop BO then maybe we might have a chance of getting HRC back – have copied an excellent letter from Utah Puma on how she went about it – hope she does not mind my copying it for you to use -

Hi Pumas,
I mentioned earlier on another blog that I had written my letter to our Lt. Governor concerning the state requirements for being named on our state ballot.
In Utah, the Lt. Governor is responsible for the elections. I imagine each state is a little different. I am sending my letter certified and also sending a copy certified to the state attorney general.
Here is my letter if anyone would like to use it as a template.

Lt. Governor Gary Herbert
Utah State Capitol
Suite 220
Salt Lake City, UT 84114

Dear Lt. Governor Herbert,

I am a Utah resident, a U.S. citizen, and a longtime registered voter. According to Utah state law, an individual seeking to be a candidate for a federal executive or legislative office must meet all qualifications of the office as listed: 35 years old; natural born citizen of the U.S.; and a resident of the U.S. for 14 years.

As such, I am respectfully requesting that the Democratic Presidential Nominee Senator Barrack Hussein Obama be required to provide absolute proof of his birth as a natural born citizen of the U.S. before he is named on a Utah state ballot for the office of President of the United States. So far Senator Obama has refused and/or failed to provide proof of his birth as a natural born U.S. citizen. A falsified birth certificate has circulated the Internet and has been proven by experts to be a forgery.

As a natural born citizen of the U.S. and a dedicated American patriot, I am adamant, for the security of our nation that we choose our elected officials as required in our federal and state constitutions and laws.

Please require that Senator Obama provide absolute proof that he is a natural born citizen of the U.S. before his name is placed on the Utah ballot for President of the United States. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Name
Address
City State Zip
email address

Certified Return Receipt Requested

Cc: Utah State Attorney General
Mark Shurtleff
Utah State Capitol Complex
350 North State Street, Suite 230
Salt Lake City, UT 84114-2320

#86 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 10:37 am

((((sly))))

#87 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 10:38 am

jack handy:
I love jack handy :)

btw that previous post wasn’t to force anything on anyone…

I just thought people would like to read something from a Superdelegate because in one way it does CONFIRM what we all suspect, what we all think. They’ve done multiple rounds of voting before. So, why in the world couldn’t this have been multiple rounds of voting if “the nominee” had not gotten enough votes on the first round.

#88 Bluejay on 09.01.08 at 10:40 am

(Bluejay – the PUMA formerly known as sandbag)

I’m a full-time mother of three (almost grown) kids. I haven’t had a real job for a while because my oldest child was semi-recently diagnosed with a chronic illness. I spend all my spare time volunteering and blogging for issues like animal rights and the permanent protection of Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Previously I was employed as a newspaper copy editor, a circulation specialist at a magazine, and an early intervention teacher for infants & toddlers with special needs.

I currently have insurance through my husband’s employment, but the benefits have dwindled year after year to the point where it hardly seems worth the cost. I’m very worried that my child will be denied coverage at some point because of the “pre-existing condition.” We ALL have a pre-existing condition – being human – and Hillary’s health care plan was what this country so desperately needed. :(

#89 kpw26 on 09.01.08 at 10:40 am

I am a reading teacher in the public school system in New York State. Love my job. Have been doing it for 18 years. Prior to that I taught 6th grade, subbed a lot and moved around a lot my my former husband’s job. I have health insurance– so grateful for that and am a member of the teachers’ union. I have three daughters. They have not been so fortunate with jobs and health insurance. I have supported 2 through college to better their circumstances. My middle daughter has bordeline personality disorder. So hard to be a parent of a child with a mental illness. Still, she got an associates degree in human services and works full time right now. I am impressed that we “uneducated” teachers and nurses and Phd’s and college professors and software specialist are so bitter as to not fall in line. Maybe the Obama people should look into who is opposing them instead of presuming who we are. Bless you all. We are intelligent, educated and thoughtful people. I am so proud of us.

#90 Lin4Hill on 09.01.08 at 10:41 am

Teach elementary school in an inner-city school in the South. I always work weekends and nights trying to grade papers and plan lessons–so it seems like a full time job forever. Great insurance right now–so that’s a blessing.
Previously worked in a factory (rivetting–for real), clerked in bookstores, and did adminstrative work for a local university’s Dept. of Pediatrics before completing my teaching degree at the age of 38.
Long for retirement, but I’ve miles to go before that wondrous time.

#91 heysandy on 09.01.08 at 10:42 am

Happy Labor Day, Pumas!

I worked many jobs to make ends meet… from laboring in a steel mill (when women weren’t wanted) to customer service to computer operations. My disability made it unable for me to continue working 14 years ago.

I would give anything to be able to work and now live on a fixed income. It’s difficult, but I’m grateful for what I have.

I do have health insurance, but can barely afford the premiums and co-pays. They have gone up 70% in the last 2 years!

When you take many medications for chronic illnesses, pay for utilities, gas, food, and taxes, there’s nothing left. Many times I have to borrow against my line of credit at the end of the month.

So, no, I’m not rich or uneducated or bitter or a sore loser.

I’m informed and fed up with the DNC and the Democratic Party and their disgraceful tactics. The same holds true for Mr. NObama.

#92 gina613 on 09.01.08 at 10:42 am

Over 1400 comments in less then 24 hours. I’m sure Greta will think we’re real.

Going to sleep now. I’ve been up for more than 30 hours. I hope for good news when I wake up. Something like “BO ineligible for Presidency” would be good.

#93 LJSNAustin on 09.01.08 at 10:44 am

I am an elementary school teacher–beginning my 19th year in this profession. I like the work enough, but for the most part it just pays the bills. Thank God, yes, I do have health care through my employer.

PUMA!

#94 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 10:45 am

nopuma – I really don’t think my position is one of few . I honestly believe that I am a part of the majority of Pumas who really are disenfranchised Democrats who hate what has become of our party . I think it will be very dificult for a lot of Pumas to vote for Mccain , but I know they will out of protest and I respect them and their convictions . If I thought Murphy or this site was just a republican front , I would not be here . I ‘KNOW” these people and the majority are good Democrats who just refuse to sit idly by and watch their party fall to corruption .

#95 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 10:46 am

The ‘Bounce’ is now officially gone….

I bet it soooo hard for cnn to report these results. It is amazing how biased they have been. Especially Jack Cafferty – he is a disgrace.

ST. PAUL, Minn. – The ‘bounce” is gone.

So says a new CNN/Opinion Research poll released just now.

With a survey of voters taken Friday through today, the results show that 49 percent said they support the Democratic presidential ticket Barack Obama and Joe Biden and 48 percent support the Republican team of John McCain and Sarah Palin.”

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/barack_obamas_nobounce_bounce.html

#96 nativegirl on 09.01.08 at 10:46 am

#70 no_puma
Texas – Its me that started it. Maybe you guys should disavow these republicans that stir up cr*p and not feed into it on your site.

Well… I think I take offense to that comment. I am now a PUMA ( and very proud of that) and also a moderate republican. Who was on this site from the beginning.. but who did not join until the PUMA’s lost their fight for Hillary to be on the Democratic ticket. I never once came on this site to promote republicans. I only joined later when I felt that I could be a legitimate PUMA. I feel,as I am sure most voters feel, that a political party does not have the right to take away an individuals vote or their right to vote.

And I must say.. the PUMA’s have welcomed me with open arms!!

#97 goingtoMcVote on 09.01.08 at 10:47 am

I’m a chemist that works in an analytical testing lab. I like my job sometimes, but I only get paid in the 30th percentile for my experiance according to the American Chemical Society salary survey. I’m pretty sure if I was a man I’d at least be closer to the 50th percentile :( My husband is looking for work right now and I have insurance through my work (I pay about 3K a year for it). So far we are making it month to month and I’m looking for a better company to work for.

#98 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 10:47 am

thanks to poster notyoursweetie, that was a good post. I liked it…

#99 gina613 on 09.01.08 at 10:49 am

That’s weird at work the computer wouldn’t let me blog under gina613 so I changed my name to sagepuma. Now I’m at home and the posts are under my orginal name again. Oh well, I’ll figure it out later.

#100 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 10:49 am

#99 TexasTigress
” I honestly believe that I am a part of the majority of Pumas who really are disenfranchised Democrats who hate what has become of our party ”
I AGREE! ANOTHER ONE HERE. A VOTING DEM FOR 30 YEARS, THAT LOST MY FAITH IN THE PARTY MAY 31 WHEN THE RBC CONDUCTED THAT TRAVESTY OF A MEETING. I LOST MY VOICE THAT DAY, AND FOUND IT AGAIN A FEW DAYS LATER WITH PUMA!

#101 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.01.08 at 10:50 am

Out of town all weekend putting a daughter in college. Glad to be back.

Info per Murphy’s request: I’m a midwife. Delivered hundreds of babies in my 17 year career. Both enjoy my job and depend heavily on it to take care of my house full of teenagers. Hubby is a public schoolteacher (chemistry and physics). No, we do not have health insurance since the policy the school offers would eat up the better part of $1000/mo. to cover the whole family. The kids were on CHIP but have been dropped because he earned a performance pay bonus in January, so they now say we make too much money for CHIP insurance coverage. Go figure. Hubby just recovered form cancer among other health problems so private insurance not an option.

***Funny joke I got in an email today for those who need a dose of laughter (sorry if it’s a repeat):

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, ‘What are all
those clocks?’ St. Peter answered, ‘Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.’

‘Oh,’ said the man,
‘whose clock is that?’ ‘That’s Mother Teresa’s. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told
a lie.’

‘Incredible,’ said the man’. And whose clock is that one?’ St. Peter responded, ‘That’s Abraham Lincoln’s clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.’

‘Where’s Barack Obama’s clock?’ asked the man.

‘Obama’s clock is in God’s office. He’s using it as a ceiling fan.

#102 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 10:50 am

I just spoke to someone related to NJDP
and they all know how corsine behaves as p*g in denver
and for sure it would be his end
unless the wh is assaulted by mr estravaganza

#103 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 10:50 am

#101 (((((((((nativegirl ))))))))))))
#100 ClearlyClinton thank you for that great information puts a smile on my face :)
((((((((TexasTigress))))))))) right back at cha.

#104 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 10:51 am

I’m a CPA by profession, I used to work as auditor, trader(export/import). I almost accepted a job offer from the IRS, my friends told me everyone will hate me and wanted me dead. :lol: I didn’t take their offer. I love numbers but at the same time I don’t want to do a job people will hate me. Right now, I have a small farm in Asia, exporting bananas to Japan. Yup! the same bananas we’re buying here in USA. I use my profit from my farm to pay tuition of 5 young adults (not related to my family) now in college. These 5 young adults came from the poorest of the poor, but they’re intelligent, I don’t want to see it wasted. They’re also first member of their clan to have a bachelor’s degree soon. The only thing I ask from all of them, to help their family by sending their young siblings to school. That’s the best gift they can give me. I have a huge responsibility, their future lies in my hand, I can’t screw it up; my Dad would rise from his grave and slap me I think if I don’t do right with those kids. :lol:

#105 HP Boston on 09.01.08 at 10:52 am

‘Where’s Barack Obama’s clock?’ asked the man.

‘Obama’s clock is in God’s office. SHE IS using it as a ceiling fan.

#106 AniEm on 09.01.08 at 10:52 am

I work part-time in the field of adult education, teaching ABE, ESL, computer and jobs training – when funding permits.

My husband is a retired Philly fire fighter and we have had good health care coverage through the years. The problem now is he is eligible for Medicare, but I am still five years away from that (ah, youth!). I’m exploring low-cost coverage, but am angry that so many Americans are under the gun with respect to healthcare.

#107 heysandy on 09.01.08 at 10:54 am

#89 gogandalf

I am from PA and faxed my AG and SOS. Others from PA did as well, but not specifically concerning the BC.

#108 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.01.08 at 10:55 am

#110 HP Boston

:-)

#109 nativegirl on 09.01.08 at 10:58 am

Ok.. Murphy this is what I do.

I work for a state agency in Texas that is basically information and referral. We work 7 days a week 24 hours a day. In times of disaster, we become activated through the state’s emergency disaster group and work to get information out to the public. I am the disaster coordinator for my agency. I live in a small town and the building that I work in houses many state agencies that work with advocating for the aging, disabled and individuals in need. I volunteer, which now that my youngest is going off to Georgia to college, I hope to do more of. I am married to a veteran, who has just started a new career at 46!!!! (aagghh!!) So, if any Puma Texans are turning 65 and need a great medicare policy… just let me know!!!! Oh… I love my job.. of course I do not get paid what I am worth… and here I am working on a holiday weekend, trying to keep Texans safe. And yes.. my insurance for my family is off the hook expensive!!

#110 PouncingPuma on 09.01.08 at 10:59 am

#109 AsianForHillary

You are wonderful!
But most of us have known that for a long time.

#111 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 11:02 am

Say Goodbye No_Puma.

You’ve had your shot.

Enjoy the free air fare.

#112 NYCgirl on 09.01.08 at 11:04 am

MURPHY WROTE:

“The Obama Movement often tries to pretend that we are rich, lazy housewives with nothing better to do than sit around and whine like sore losers, or worse — Republicans.

We all know this is not true. In comments let us know what you do for a living (if you’re retired, what you DID for a living) and whether you love your job or mostly do it to pay the bills. Also, let us know if you have health insurance.”

It’s interesting to see the mixture of people on here. I am a working person from a poor family that managed to pull themselves up from poverty to “working class”. I do data entry for a nonprofit. I don’t earn much money, but I am fortunate to have a full-time job with health insurance.

My dream is to retire and relax! :-)

NYCgirl

#113 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 11:06 am

#117 THANK YOU MARYLAND PUMA – BYE BYE NO PUMA

HEY SANDY – Great – thank you so much for doing that in Penna – now if we ONLY HAD NEW JERSEY to send a letter to their Sec of State – then the States that THE KING has to have to get elected will all be covered – of course any other Puma from any other State would always be appreciated too – HAPPY LABOR DAY

#114 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 11:06 am

#111 Maryland PUMA

YEAH! MARYLAND TO THE RESCUE!

#115 bydesign001 on 09.01.08 at 11:07 am

Happy Labor Day Fellow PUMAs. This day is about us the American worker. As a former shop steward (AFL-CIO OPEIU LOCAL 153), I am saddened about the union’s non-questioning support of the DNC and as a union supporter, this is where we differ. I am recently disabled, but before that I was a paralegal/legal assistant. For the past 27 years, I worked 7 to 17 hours a day, 5 often 7 days a week and while doing so I took care of a disabled husband, raised my son and 4 my nieces from two sisters who are deceased. Yes, I worked hard but I did it for my family. I wanted them to reap the benefits of being a good American. I wanted my nieces to know that a woman could do anything and be anything she wanted to be. I miss working and I am plan to eventually get back out there, but I must admit, good healthcare is a problem. I am concerned about Obama’s ideas on healthcare because he is pro healthcare rationing. He claims he embraces universal healthcare which is Clinton’s proposal not Obama’s and since he has reneged on everything he promised Clinton, it is very clear that he will not embrace universal healthcare either.

#116 NYCgirl on 09.01.08 at 11:08 am

#111 Maryland PUMA

THANKS, MARYLAND!! :-D

NYCgirl

#117 nativegirl on 09.01.08 at 11:08 am

(((()))) I can’t remember what that stands for… I have not had enough sleep in these past few days… bad or good???

nativegirl

#118 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 11:08 am

PUMA PACers

No_Puma is now in moderation at the request of many PUMA PACers who emailed me.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention in a non-public way.

MarylandPUMA

#119 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 11:08 am

#109 AsianForHillary

Ditto, Pouncing Puma! It’s so nice to hear abt. wonderful caring PUMAS like you! Great focus today!!!

#120 tillerylakelady on 09.01.08 at 11:09 am

I Work for the State of North Carolina. I have been a Foster parent for 23 years.And because of Foster Care I have adopted four wonderful Guys.Three that are now 22 years old(not triplets) and my last a 9 year old.We have been blessed with these guys and have loved shareing our life with them.My youngest thinks he’s a PUMA Too.And yes I am a Democrat.

#121 NYCgirl on 09.01.08 at 11:10 am

#116 nativegirl

((((()))))))) means “hugs”! :-)

NYCgirl

#122 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 11:10 am

#102 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 10:50 am

I just spoke to someone related to NJDP
and they all know how corsine behaves as p*g in denver
and for sure it would be his end
unless the wh is assaulted by mr estravaganz
I think I’m slow on the uptake explain this to me not sure what exactly this is about. thanks ;)

#123 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 11:11 am

ME IN A NUTSHELL

I worked for many years as a bookkeeper/girl Friday and then one day I had enough of that life style and decided to go back to university at the age of 45.

When I returned to university I took on the full courses and it took me five years to receive my degree in Psychology.

I always wanted to attend university but I was unable to when I was younger because of finances. After putting my children through university I decided it was my turn to complete a long held desire to have a university degree, it was a personal goal.

I am now retired and receive my brilliant granddaughter Vanessa each day after school and we do her homework together and I remind her often about what a great brain God has blessed her with.
(Did you notice no bias on my part here is there?) smile!

She watched the primaries with me, witnessed how I used to yell at the TV. screen whenever CNN and the taking heads would denigrate Hillary.

She asked me who do you support, Obama or Hillary, I told her Hillary.
She wanted to know why, so I told her because Hillary was smarter and she has more experience and it is her turn to be president.

When Hillary did not get the nomination, she told me she was sorry that Hillary did not win.
I told her Hillary did not lose, the Democratic party lost.

She asked me who do I support now McCain or Obama and I tell her McCain, for the same reasons; McCain is smarter, has more experience and it is his turn to be president because he truly love America and all Americans.

#124 utahpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:12 am

I am a 64 year old degreed accountant and a published freelance writer. I work as an assistant to the VP of Finance for a very large malpractice insurance company.
I was a single mom who raised three kids alone from the age of 20 without any financial support other than holding down 2 and sometimes 3 jobs. My kids are grown now, all have degrees, a mechanical engineer, an accountant, and a computer programer.

I lived in Alaska for 30 years where I homesteaded for five years. I was a community activist and involved in local politics. I moved to Utah 4 years ago with my youngest son who is now disabled.

I am also a war orphan and very proud to be an American.

Thank you Pumas for this opportunity to be heard.

#125 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 11:13 am

PUMA PAC ALERT

If you do respond to the TROLLS in the past thread, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT USE YOUR *HOME* email address to protect your privacy.

Use the email address you opened specifically for PUMA PAC action.

There is a troll in the dungeon who claims a PUMA PACer sent s/he an email and used their personal email addy.

#126 nativegirl on 09.01.08 at 11:14 am

#103 slyt2
OH!!! Thank you so much for that hug.. I needed it… along with a pillow!!!

(((slyt2)))!!!!
(((all PUMA’s)))) enjoy your family and friends today!!

#127 queen81 on 09.01.08 at 11:14 am

Good morning all!

Well lets see, I currently do route delivery and sales and was a 911 operator prior to that. My wonderful other half is a regional computer systems installer. I do have health insurance. I’ve been very lucky in that area. MY prior job paid for my insurance completely and I pay very little for my current plan. We are certainly not rich but we do make a farily comfortable living. We spent out lives as democrats but saw very early on what was happening in this election and will not reward bad behavior with our votes!

#128 BigCatLover on 09.01.08 at 11:14 am

#76 Dem4Hillary

If this delegate’s phone call came from Washington DC, then it could not have been from Hillary (she was just at the reception). So did it come from her office? That would not have been good enough for me to change my vote.

#129 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:15 am

I am a 60 year old grandmother. I work for a company that have homes for special people with disabilities. The house I take care of has three females in it. I thoroughly love my job! It is so fulfilling. I raised 2 sons and am going to be a grandmother in 2 wks! I can hardly wait! This is my first time posting. I hope it takes. I have been lurking since early June. Can someone tell me how to change my password! Thanks!

#130 oneilma on 09.01.08 at 11:15 am

I’ve been a teacher for about 40 years. It’s such an honor to work with the young. I try never to manipulate but to encourage open minds, analysis and always to question oneself.

#131 scarlet on 09.01.08 at 11:16 am

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 47% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 46%. Those figures are unchanged from yesterday and little changed over the past several days.

54% Celebrate Labor Day As End of Summer, 33% Honor Workers

#132 NYCgirl on 09.01.08 at 11:17 am

#115 bydesign001

I have heard Hillary Clinton say that she has been working on trying to get us single-payer universal health care for the past 35 years! What has Obama been doing for us all that time? He has barely been AROUND for 35 years, let alone working on legislation for us! What a joke!

NYCgirl

#133 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 11:18 am

GUEST

I will allow your posts with the following comment on behalf of PUMA PAC:

We are PRO-DEMOCRACY. WE DO NOT ENDORSE McCain/Palin, nor do we encourage our members to take some sort of collective action with their vote in November. Voting is a very personal private choice and we respect that.

Some of our members will vote McCain, some will abstain, some will vote third party, some will write in HRC.

Keep your dialogue respectful and civil and ask the questions you desire answers to regarding our movement.

I will not tolerate attacks on any PUMA PACer.

MarylandPUMA
Moderator

#134 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 11:18 am

#129 scarlettpuma

Welcome!!

#135 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:21 am

I also have a degree in elementary education and a masters in Special Education, but chose to use it to help adults with disabilities. I have two yorkies, who are like my babies. I am a widow of four years. I am proud to be a PUMA! I am so afraid for our country. I think we can make a difference in this election! At least I pray to God to help us to!

#136 NYCgirl on 09.01.08 at 11:23 am

#130 scarlettpuma

When you log in, under “Leave a comment”, click on your username. It will take you to your “profile” where you can edit your password.

NYCgirl

#137 PouncingPuma on 09.01.08 at 11:25 am

Welcome scarlettpuma!

#138 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 11:26 am

#127 nativegirl you are very welcomed that was a thank you for defending us to no puma that was very nice.
#130 scarlettpuma welcome :)

#139 PUMA KY on 09.01.08 at 11:26 am

To the question of jobs and insurance, I am in sales and merchandising was fulltime, now part-time (not my choice) because I lost 2 companies I work for due to gas prices and a buy-out. My husband recently lost his job 2 days after getting out of the hospital, our main source of income, his company vehicle and our health insurance. So we are in the uninsured, nearly broke, struggling middle-class family. So how’s that for the American Dream?

#140 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 11:28 am

Good Morning everyone,

Thought I’d join in on my employment, I run (do not own, it’s owned by a group of shareholders) a company that imports and sells medical devices to all health sectors throughout Canada. We have about 42 dealer stores with every province represented. Recently I was offered the opportunity to manage a sister company that sells rehabilitation equipment to the general public. So basically, I’m the Operations Manager for two companies and recently became a shareholder of the 1st company

Last year I started working on my Masters of Business Administration (MBA), which I do with a University in Ottawa through correspondence. Basically, I do the courses through online classes then go to the University to write the exams.

I have provincial health insurance, plus my work health insurance and then a private health insurance. I pray that one day the US decision makers will realize that while they are the leaders in many areas, they could benefit from following Canada’s health insurance guidelines.

#141 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 11:28 am

Good Morning everyone,

Thought I’d join in on my employment, I run (do not own, it’s owned by a group of shareholders) a company that imports and sells medical devices to all health sectors throughout Canada. We have about 42 dealer stores with every province represented. Recently I was offered the opportunity to manage a sister company that sells rehabilitation equipment to the general public. So basically, I’m the Operations Manager for two companies and recently became a shareholder of the 1st company

Last year I started working on my Masters of Business Administration (MBA), which I do with a University in Ottawa through correspondence. Basically, I do the courses through online classes then go to the University to write the exams.

I have provincial health insurance, plus my work health insurance and then a private health insurance. I pray that one day the US decision makers will realize that while they are the leaders in many areas, they could benefit from following Canada’s health insurance guidelines.

#142 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:31 am

Thanks NYCgirl. That was helpful!

#143 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 11:32 am

#129 BigCatLover:
I don’t know… maybe she used someone’s cell phone. I honestly don’t think that he would lie. I know him and I KNOW that he KNOWS Senator Clinton and her staff.

I believe him when he says that the DNC was expected to be united. After all we’ve seen OF COURSE they would expect, in fact demand, everyone to line up who’s a member of the DNC.

It’s just stunning. It truly is.

#144 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 11:33 am

Here is my response to Greta:

I am a Democrat and I am NOT unified with this party. I’ve been a Democrat since my first vote in 1996. The level of disrespect during this campaign has been astonishing. The outcry for unity over and above the respect of voters and even delegates is stunning. The EXPECTATION that anyone who voted for Senator Clinton in the primary will automatically line up behind “the nominee” only because Senator Clinton said so is disgusting. “The nominee” has not made any attempt to reach out to Clinton voters. His surrogates ran around during the primary bashing Clinton and her voters by suggesting that everyone in the states she won was “racist.” The disrespect has continued even past the convention with the new suggestion that it will be Clinton and the Clinton voters’ faults if “the nominee” loses. I don’t understand this discrepancy in thought. “The nominee” has suggested that he has lots of Republican support. He even had has nominating speech start off with “as a life-long registered republican.” So, if we really as small and insignificant as the DNC displays, then shouldn’t their new energized young voters and new energized former republicans more than make up for a bunch of “old” “bitter” “women” who didn’t get their way? Furthermore, if the voters for Clinton were so disrespected during and after the primary, if we don’t count enough to even be truly acknowledged, thanked, and then ASKED rather than Demand to support “the nominee,” then why are they so concerend, now, that “the nominee” might be vulnerable to an actual loss. Why are they so concerned now, that disenfranchised, discounted, and disrespected Clinton voters just might not go in there and cast that vote for “the nominee” and some may EVEN cast a vote for McCain. If they’re concerned now, maybe instead of doing so much arm twisting and bashing of Clinton supporters up to high echelons of the party, they should have twisted Donna Brazile right off of CNN for her egregious partisianship for “the nominee” and extreme vitriol against ANYONE who even questioned her messiah, “the nominee.”

#145 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:34 am

I have insurance through where I work I wish everyone was fortunate to have it! Maybe one day everyone will!

#146 Bluejay on 09.01.08 at 11:34 am

(Bluejay – the PUMA formerly known as sandbag)

I guess the first thing I should do is take a deep breath and look at the situation with Sarah Palin as an opportunity for more people to gain a better understanding of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge . . .

I’ve heard several people say things like . . . “Oh . . . it’s only a tiny area of the refuge that they want to drill. That doesn’t sound too bad.” I’ve spent the better part of the past ten years studying this issue, and trying to rally support for the continued protection of the refuge. It’s not complicated, but it does take a bit of effort to come to an understanding. The Refuge itself is roughly the size of South Carolina. It’s akin to saying . . . “Don’t worry, we’ll leave almost all of South Carolina alone. We just need to take over the coastline.” Clearly, this would have an enormous impact to the state, even though most of the acreage would be left untouched.

Most of the refuge is protected, with the exception of the northern coastal plain, known to the US government as the “1002″ (ten-o-two) lands. This small area is the most environmentally critical spot of the entire region.

The Gwich’in are the northernmost of Alaska’s indigenous people, living in villages scattered along the migratory path of the Porcupine caribou herd. For literally thousands of years, they have relied upon this herd as their primary source of sustenance. Each spring, the herd makes its way northward in a massive migration to their SOLE birthing grounds along the northern coastal plain – the 1002 lands. The Gwich’in people call this place, “Iizhik Gwats’an Gwandaii Goodlit,” or “the sacred place where life begins.” Nature, in her infinite wisdom, has helped to make this the most ideal place for the caribou to give birth. The insects, which torture the caribou in other areas, and can actually devour a newborn, are mercifully at their lowest concentration in this northern coastal plain, mainly because of the thin band of coastal winds. Wolves, another threat to the newborn herd, are located in a more southerly region during the birthing time. The Gwich’in people consider these birthing lands to be sacred, and it is said that they would not enter them even during times of great famine.

Unfortunately for the indigenous people, the caribou birthing grounds fall within the area we often hear described as the small “footprint” for Arctic Drilling. This action could quite literally drive a stake into the biological heart of their homeland. Forcing the caribou away from this ideal spot would clearly upset the environmental factors which have taken centuries to evolve in their favor. And if the caribou are forced along a different path, or to a different region, the people who have depended upon them for millennia will also be forced to leave.

Geologists feel that there is a limited amount of oil there – some sources say a year’s worth. It would take many years to build the infrastructure to even begin to get at the oil on the coastal plain, so this is far from a quick fix for our high gas prices. Most, if not all oil extracted there would be shipped to Asia. “Big Oil” – - Chevron and Exxon in particular, have been pushing to drill there for decades. They would do what they do best — make a few more bucks for themselves, and so what if the Gwich’in lose there homeland.

It’s just not worth it . . .

More info here:

http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/

http://www.alaskawild.org/news-and-events/fact-sheets/

http://oilonice.org/

#147 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 11:34 am

You’re welcome nativegirl. It put a smile on my face too…

I can’t wait to see that smug smile wiped away from that empty-suited face on Nov. 5th.

People have been underestimating McCain all along (just like Clinton – let’s not forget all her amazing comebacks,especially NH, went all but ignored by the Party & Media). Palin was a shrewd move – He was just shoring up his base. Remember, the conservatives of the party HATED McCain…they said he was too liberal. Go figure. So he shores up his base while attracting those people who are still mad at what happened to Clinton.

Now the polls have them effectively tied. Remember, history has shown that after the DNC convention the lead / bounce is typically between 10-20 points. Obama actually dropped once during the convention and then again a few days later. Not good…

For him.

#148 Noblecascade on 09.01.08 at 11:36 am

well here is my story…I am a single parent of a teenager. I am an Oil and Gas Accountant for an Exploration Oil Company and damn proud of it. I had to leave my home in Shreveport, La. and move to DFW Texas area so I could find a job. I didn’t want to be a blackjack dealer or in the service industry. I have health insurance for me and my son thanks to my company. They pay for everything. My company is small and we struggle to make a profit but we are looked at as all the other big oil companies. Very unfair.

#149 tec1965 on 09.01.08 at 11:38 am

good morning puma’s
i am currently a drywall contractor
i am a carpenter by trade but about 15 years ago i got tired of working outside and being at the mercy of the weather so i switched trades
i like not having to be stuck in one place for too long
we go to a job stay for a couple days and then move on to the next one ,i have health insurance for the first time in 10/15years we pay for a family plan ,we are a family of 3 who live in southeastern mass :)
mcain /palin 08 down ticket dems 08

#150 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 11:40 am

I am an accountant/CPA by profession. I work as a Chief Financial Officer of a medium sized international consulting firm. I am a working mother and my husband is self-employed . Our health insurance is through my employment. I am also a PUMA.

I am a first generation American as both my parents were immigrants. Both my parents really loved this country and it was a very big deal in the house when my father would go out and vote after he became a citizen. He never missed an election. Neither will I. I hope to carry on that same pride in voting to my children. This is one reason why PUMA is so important. The choice when you go and vote and the integrity of the election process in critical to our country staying strong.

#151 PouncingPuma on 09.01.08 at 11:40 am

I have been a registered nurse for 33 years. 12 of those years I worked weekend-premium-package which means I worked every weekend.
Last year I began drawing SS widows benefit so that I could help care for 2 grandaughters while their parents are at work . My daughter and her husband are gone 12 hrs. a day.
I continue to work 1 shift per week to supplement my income so I am semi-retired.
I was able to find private insurance at an affordable rate for me. The coverage is minimal and the deductable is $2,500. Couldn’t afford it otherwise.
Not old enough for medicare.
Nice to read about what other Pumas do.
Keep those posts coming.

#152 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 11:40 am

My job is a Domestic engineer, i have many responsibilities with my job ,such as chef, a chauffeur, a warden and parole officer. I am a maid/housekeeper, I am a zoo keeper also. My husband is a cement mason(concrete) he belongs to a union (who endorsed BO only after Hillary was out of the race when my husband works money is good and bills get paid, work has been bad last couple of years so he went back to school to get associate degree in Computers but now everyone wants higher degree and 3 years experience so now he is back to concrete…As far as insurance I just say thank god for assistance.

#153 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 11:41 am

#148 ClearlyClinton
“Now the polls have them effectively tied. Remember, history has shown that after the DNC convention the lead / bounce is typically between 10-20 points. Obama actually dropped once during the convention and then again a few days later. Not good…”

well if you want a sign to compare it too, John Kerry only got about a 2point bounce after the convention. He even had the fortune of having the convention before the Olympics, so people could see him, have a feel good time of the Olympics, and then go to the RNC.
Kerry got a 2pt bounce that I don’t think lasted a week.

So, if that tells us anything, “the nominee” is on his way to being a “former presidential candidate”

I’m sorry but I just can’t call him by his name anymore so I just call him “the nominee” in HONOR of his SELECTION.

#154 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 11:44 am

146 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:34 am I have insurance through where I work I wish everyone was fortunate to have it! Maybe one day everyone will!
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Correct me if I am wrong Scarlettpuma, but if you lose your job, does that mean your insurance wil be gone also?

That possibility is what is scary about not having a basic universal health care for all Americans.

When I read about older people losing their homes and their assets, because one or the other gets sick and needs surgery, that is indeed an American tragedy.

The Baby Boomer will have to move on mass to make sure that all Americans will have basic health insurance which also covers necessary surgery.

#155 deadgirlsrise on 09.01.08 at 11:45 am

Hello Labor Day PUMA, shout out to New Orleans PUMA, I hope you are yours, your friends, and neighbors and your wonderful city are safe and well…

I work in academia as an analyst, and I am in a Union that was very pro-Hillary and then jumped on the O bandwagon right away, much to my dismay. It makes me want to join management and leave the Union. That’s how strongly I feel about any professional associations going to Barack Obama who is so bad for this county in countless ways.

When this is all said and done, people will be questioning everything. There will be a post-McCarthy era reckoning, that our fear of being called McCarthyites effectively lead to the take over of a major political party by radical marxist radicals and racialists, and everyone sat there and said nothing, because we were complacent and self-absorbed. We will have one of two scenarios here, one, we lose our great country, or two, we ALMOST LOSE OUR GREAT COUNTRY!!!

#156 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 11:45 am

Well said, Dem4Hillary…

I live in NYC. During the primary I was riding on the subway with my Hillary button on and an ObamaBot stood up, got in my face and asked me why I wasn’t supporting Obama. I told him my reasons and when I was finished explaining why she was the Clear choice to win and had the most experience he promptly responded…”you mean you don’t like black people”. Then he went on to viciously blast Clinton.

I was speechless.

I got off at the next station even though it wasn’t my stop. The hypocrisy displayed by his supporters is just beyond belief.

#157 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 11:48 am

Dem4Hillary…

Kerry actually had (depending on the poll) a ten point bump. Dukakis had even more.

#158 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 11:49 am

ClearlyClinton:
Wow!

It really is amazing.

#159 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 11:50 am

157 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 11:45 am Well said, Dem4Hillary…
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ClearlyClinton after such a rude confrontation, you surely know how in your face those Caucuses thugs must have been to voters, who are not use to such rogue tactics.

#160 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 11:51 am

clearlyclinton can you give me the link for that? Because I was working every day at headquarters and I don’t remember that kind of bounce. I remember it being like 2 points.

#161 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 11:52 am

but it has been 4 long years and all hell has broken lose inside the party.. So maybe I’m wrong. I just remember people being perplexed.

Maybe I’m thinking of my own state.

#162 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:52 am

Terrydo: I get an airforce annunity from my husband, so when I decide to retire I will get insurance from the airforce. My husband left me in fairly good shape.

#163 LotusBoy on 09.01.08 at 11:53 am

I am headed now to the show me state on a new assignment. Will get back to PUMA world later in the evening. Keep rocking!

#164 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 11:54 am

153 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 11:40 am My job is a Domestic engineer, i have many responsibilities with my job ,such as chef, a chauffeur, a warden and parole officer. I am a maid/housekeeper, I am a zoo keeper also.
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Slyt2, being a Domestic Engineer is one of the most important jobs being done around the world. Imagine if we were paid for each and every job done in that capacity. Such as job is priceless because it is always done with love. You just can’t buy true love..

#165 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 11:56 am

163 scarlettpuma on 09.01.08 at 11:52 am Terrydo: I get an airforce annunity from my husband, so when I decide to retire I will get insurance from the airforce. My husband left me in fairly good shape.
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Scarlettpuma, I am very happy to hear you are covered…

#166 DawnE on 09.01.08 at 11:57 am

morning all

I am a Warehouse Distribution Manager. Until I found this job in Austin, I had not had health insurance in about 20 years. My current boss provided them to me at his cost, which doubled in 6 months. I am now lucky enough to have been able to reduce his costs by getting coverage through my partners job. Rollins Inc. provides domestic partnership benefits for anyone interested in knowing.

#167 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 11:57 am

Thug is an appropriate term.

I was brought up in a Democratic household, in Massachusetts no less. So you can imagine how profound I feel about this to change my affiliation to Independent.

The ObamaBots are so much more concerned with “making history” than they are about actually winning. And when they lose (and they will) what are they going to do? Blame Clinton and Racism.

They have no one to blame but themselves…

#168 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 11:57 am

Signing out for a few hours, must get some work done as my capacity as dometic engineer also.

#169 SparklePuma on 09.01.08 at 11:58 am

Hi Puma friends;
I am a 65yr old widow woman semi retired. Can’t retire not enough to live on. I work in a medical office and really love what I do. I also sent Greta a note stating that I am PUMA and a registered Independent and I will be voting McCain/Palin.

#170 Rabblerouser on 09.01.08 at 11:59 am

157 ClearlyClinton

That has always been one of my reservations about BO: the people he attracts are questionable at the very least…

#171 Lorelai on 09.01.08 at 12:00 pm

Maryland Puma – you have mail thx

#172 EWard on 09.01.08 at 12:00 pm

Good Morning Pumas and Welcome to our New Members,

I just left a message on GretaWire about Puma.

Just like Murphy, I earned my BA degree later in life and it’s in journalism. For years, I had jobs but no real career. I am a resume writer now and it’s a rewarding experience. In addition, I do have health insurance.

This weekend on the blog, Pumas were posting comments about Ohio’s loophole in their voter registration law. For a short time voters can register one minute and then vote the next. However, an AP article stated the details are being worked out how those votes are counted. I am attaching one paragraph from the story.

“Ohio elections officials say they are working out potential kinks, such as questions about whether a vote counts when it is cast or when it’s counted. They also are trying to address potential fears of massive voting fraud, and what effect this influx is going to mean on vote security.”

#173 Pm on 09.01.08 at 12:01 pm

What do I do for a living? The best job in the world! I’m a Washington State farmer that does NOT take subsidies. I love my job and I love my land! My husband is a teacher so we do have insurance.

Murphy, has anyone reached out to Sarah Palin? It wasn’t right what the MSM did to Hillary and regardless of party affiliation, it not right what they’re doing to Gov. Palin. Where’s the action alerts!?!

#174 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 12:01 pm

#165 TerryDo ohhhh thank you :) my husband says that all the time if you got paid for your job we’d be rich or he’d be broke if he was paying me, but he also says I wouldn’t want your “job” for NOTHING. He says to much work …lol

#175 jrhed on 09.01.08 at 12:01 pm

I was trying to play along with a break from politics today, and as I was watching coverage of the Hurricane I turned on CSpan to see Obama at a rally in Michigan, RIGHT NOW AS THE HURRICANE IS MAKING LANDFALL!!!!

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/09/as-hurricane-gustav-makes-landfall.html

#176 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:02 pm

I was living in London at the time and remember reading it on the BBC. Not sure if I can find it, but it stuck in my mind that with that kind of lead and momentum, Bush would lose for sure.

What a difference 2 months can make…

#177 LivingGrace on 09.01.08 at 12:03 pm

#11 TerryDo~~~Thank you so much for that gem. I liked it so much I printed it and will put it in a little frame in my bathroom as a daily reminder.

#178 NoMoreInFL on 09.01.08 at 12:03 pm

I had a job that I loved for many years and would of retired this year with health benefits and a larger retirement but instead I stood for what was right and was illegally terminated…that is life!

I worked for years two jobs to support myself and my two sons since child support was nadda! I continue to this day to work in catering (was my second job) and became a Personal Assistant and Chef to a senior. I love my two jobs but don’t have health insurance. Thank God, I have had no issues that He has not taken care of! :)

#179 TexasTigress on 09.01.08 at 12:04 pm

Ok , it looks like we have about an hour left here before we start getting the winds from the outer bands . Power will be out for a few days . ( this is soooo rural , we lose power when normal winds blow ) I will have lots of firewood to chop up :) Maybe it will slow way down and I’ll get lucky , but just in case – (((((( PUMAS)))) keep up the good work and stay positive ! You are on the good guy side and you never have to resort to negative tactics to get your point across – thats for the poor folks who don’t have a legitimit leg to stand on !
In case I’m off for awhile , I will leave you with my FAVORITE Jack Handy quote so you don’t forget me :)
“If you’re in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it’ll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. ” PEACE !!!!

#180 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:09 pm

TerryDo,

Agreed. I can only imagine. And think about what Clinton had to go through herself? My god…here is the partner of “The first black President of the United States” (a well known quote about Bill for those who don’t know) and she is treated like this?

After all she has been through…the betrayals, the attacks, the ridicule…and she still gives a great speech on behalf of Obama.

She is one strong woman.

#181 tec1965 on 09.01.08 at 12:13 pm

be carefull tigress ,stay safe
to all puma and others in the path of gustav
be safe and god bless you you are in our thoughts and prayers

#182 EWard on 09.01.08 at 12:14 pm

#74 Dem4Hillary

I have no doubt that Senator Clinton had no choice but to release her delegates to BO. This DP belongs to him. They were using any means for Precious to be the nominee. They got their wish.

Guess What? There is no bounce. The McCain/Palin announcement checkmated BO’s fake speech on Thursday.

We are writing about our jobs on this thread. Any career person knows you work within the system. Something as bureaucratic and top heavy as a political party exerts a tremendous amount of influence to conform. THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES DO NOT WIN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. Everything that Senator Clinton worked for would be thrown away.

BO/Biden are going down to defeat and they have no one to blame but the chosen one.

#183 LivingGrace on 09.01.08 at 12:15 pm

It occurred to me a few minutes ago that a small silver lining in the cloud that is Gustav~~~we all know about and were upset, to say the least, about the rampant sexism and misogyny in the press coverage of Hillary and the democratic primary/caucus. Of course, to increase viewership, the press sensationalizes everything from sporting events to political conventions to fleas bites on a dog’s butt~~~now is our chance to express our ‘appreciation’ to CNN and MSNBC by totally BOYCOTTING their coverage of Gustav.

Also, remember that while WAR is expensive, PEACE is priceless.

#184 EWard on 09.01.08 at 12:18 pm

Texas Tigress

Stay safe! Our thoughts and prayers are with you and all the other residents in the path of Gustav.

#185 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 12:18 pm

#176 jrhed they just said on foxnews BO decided to cancel his speech in Michigan and focus on the hurricane so he said it’s time for a little silent pray.
#180 TexasTigress be safe little cheerleader, seriously everyone in possible danger please be careful and i’ll be praying for everyone

#186 susanforhillary on 09.01.08 at 12:19 pm

Happy Labor Day Puma’s! I am in the process in finding a full time job, but I go to the flea market on the weekends to sell. Well, most of you must think I have it made selling at the flea market, but it is a job. 2 hours to set up on Fridays, Get up early to get out there, stay out in all kinds of weather, deal with people, go home, and start all over again on Sundays but at the end of a long day on Sunday, I pack up everything and go home. I have been selling at the flea market for 13+ years. But it doesn’t stop there. I have a family to take care of, a house to clean, carrying the boys to their sports outings, cook, wash & dry clothes several times a week, and whatever else their is to do. I might get money at the flea market, but a full time mom doesn’t get one red cent. But at least my husband works his job at home and we have insurance.

#187 murphy on 09.01.08 at 12:20 pm

UPDATE 9/1/08 AT 12:17PM: Please read Riverdaughter’s Post on the BBC Blog about Pumas and the Power of REAL Unity. Puma comments needed.

http://www.bbc-news.org/politics/labor-day-there-is-power-in-a-union

#188 hillaryistheone on 09.01.08 at 12:20 pm

They just announced on Fox that Sarah Palin’s 17 year old daughter is pregnant and is expected to marry the father.

I am sure the DNC will drag that young lady through the mud. This can happen to anyone, more power to Sarah!!

#189 FLgayGuy4Hill on 09.01.08 at 12:21 pm

Just joining back in on the conversation…

I work in healthcare as head of new business development and product development for a hospital bill audit firm. We audit hospital bills making sure that they are accurate and appropriately billed. My company is only about 50 people. We are privately held and owned by two women who grew the company organically from its infancy. I love working for women and honestly hope I’ll retire from this firm.

#190 cardinalsfan on 09.01.08 at 12:22 pm

Hi everyone. First I send a prayer to any Pumas affected by the storm. I am a medical technologist-Microbiology-and have been for many years. I am college educated, unlike what Andrea Mitchell says about us. I have never voted for a Republican-ever. I am so angry that the DNC has put me in the position of considering a vote for McCain. I have never trusted BO from day one. I will never forget how he and the DNC treated Hillary. Breaking new about Palin-her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Oh, God, here we go.

#191 Susie1945 on 09.01.08 at 12:23 pm

Good morning Pumas -

Been watching the coverage of Gustav – bad bad bad – don’t understand why a city is even there but guess that answer is above my pay grade

Just heard them confirm on faux news that Palin’s 17 year old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the father – what will this do to the crazy religious nut jobs in the republican party and the democratic party also for that matter – I could care less but you know what an uproard this is gonna cause…………………………

#192 JaJo8845 on 09.01.08 at 12:24 pm

Hi! PUMA’s left note for Greta. I live in MN and will have to figure out how to get to work this evening. Lots off streets closed. I work in Hosp 3 blocks south of Excel Center. Local news says there will be only 2 or 3 hours today.

#193 hillaryistheone on 09.01.08 at 12:25 pm

#191 cardinalsfan, Hi cardinalsfan…are we talking baseball. If so, I have been a cardinals fan for many, many years.

#194 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 12:25 pm

went over to Gretawire’s “Are Pumas Real” article and posted, we had so much fun!!!

this was my husband’s post:

Comment by Steve
September 1st, 2008 at 12:20 pm

Oh yes we’re real – were told by Donna Brazile that we’re not needed and to stay home on election day.
Well, I don’t like to be told what to do……
will not vote for the DNC’s cupcake.
They trashed Hillary Clinton, the most qualified candidate we had to stand up to the republicans and win office in Nov.
Obama, his goons, the DNC, the media, they all ganged up on her.
OK, she’s no longer in the picture.
Now it’s our turn.
McCain/Palin, maybe, we’ll see, but NEVER OBAMA.
“For the first time in my adult life”, I’m not voting democrat.
And what’s the latest with Obama’s birth certificate? I hear he’s not even an American citizen.

(I’m afraid I’ll get lost if I go back to get mine, but it was similar, I’ll try later)

#195 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 12:27 pm

Texas Tigress . .stay safe, and we will all be looking for your next post SOON.! :)
Thoughts and prayers are with all residents in the path of Gustav and those organizations called on to rescue and assist.

#196 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 12:27 pm

So what if her 17 years old daughter is pregnant as if that is rare nowadays. :lol:

#197 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:29 pm

I hope everyone makes it through this storm safely. We should pull together as Americans…

#198 YesSheCan on 09.01.08 at 12:30 pm

I’m lucky enough to have health insurance from my employer, but every year, the employee share of the premium rises, deductibles and co-pays rise, and coverage decreases.
I have so many friends and family members who make major life decisions based on health insurance.

People who have kids with disabilities and are stuck in jobs because of pre-existing clauses, people who can’t retire when they had planned to because of cost of premiums, mothers who work full time when they’d rather not, just because their husbands are self-employed and can’t afford to buy health insurance.
And the premiums my parents pay on Medicare supplements, combined with the property taxes they pay, eat up most of their pension.

I have a friend who couldn’t afford the premiums anymore, dropped coverage, went to get her annual gyne exam and was charged over $400.

Hillary Clinton was the candidate who could of made some REAL change in the health care crisis. I have NO faith in Obama’s ability to get anything done. The hospital his wife works in tripled her salary when Obama was elected to the Senate, and they turn the uninsured away. He’s sooo for sale.

#199 cardinalsfan on 09.01.08 at 12:31 pm

hillaryistheone-major Cardinals fan. I’m so sad, looks like we won’t be in the playoffs. I’m in St. Louis and got a call last night from McCain campaign. I don’t remember signing up for anything with them, but at any rate, they asked for my vote and will be sending me an absentee ballot. I thought that was great.

#200 hillaryistheone on 09.01.08 at 12:31 pm

#197 Asian4Hillary, I totally agree!!

#201 Headclunker on 09.01.08 at 12:32 pm

WHAT HURRICANE VICTIMS NEED

I have been really tripping on the events of the last week. GWB’s reelection in 2004 and Katrina in 2005 effected me in ways I cannot even explain.

I have been living on the east coast of Florida for several year after living on the Gulf Coast of Texas for some years. Hurricanes are relatively routine to me. The preparation and evacuation are the easy part.

Yes, afterwards is the real challenge. Victims need food, water, ice, shelter, clothing and money. They also need generators, fuel, chain saws and INFORMATION. I was in Florida when the Gulf Coast was hit in 2005. It is difficult to ship supplies or money yourself, but one of the thing I did form effected people was get information to them after the storm. Even people with computers frequently have no power and the power sometinges takes weeks to restore. So if you know people in the effected areas, check the FEMA and other sites for information and make sure they are getting information on status and all available services.

Usually a central information website comes up, but I do not know if there is one for Gustav at this time. They may announce it on TV or radio.

#202 NoObo on 09.01.08 at 12:32 pm

My Prayers are with everyone in the path of this terrible storm.

I am a widow of a union man who worked on industrial and commercial air conditioning with Local 803. My oldest son is also in the same union. My youngest son is in Local 15 Sheet Metal Workers.

I, myself, own my own interior plant scaping service since 1992. I have just switched health insurance.
I now pay $462/mo for just myself!

I was born on Labor Day and so was my husband…

HAPPY LABOR DAY TO ALL! :)

#203 sarah on 09.01.08 at 12:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZWAUtWQ1Y
http://carpetride.wordpress.com/

Great new video response to Greta wire…

#204 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:34 pm

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out here but…

If (when) McCain wins in November. It is very likely he will not run again in 2012. Palin will be the VP and will most likely run for President herself. Do you folks here realize that if that happens this country will probably see two women running for the top job in the USA?

Clinton vs Palin.

My God…now that would be history, wouldn’t it?

And Puma will have had a hand in making this happen.

#205 halligan on 09.01.08 at 12:35 pm

In comments let us know what you do for a living (if you’re retired, what you DID for a living) and whether you love your job or mostly do it to pay the bills. Also, let us know if you have health insurance.
——————————————————-

Retired
Teacher (23 Years)
College Instructor (part time)
Elected Politician (12 years)
Yes – Health Insurance
Now on Public Employees Insurance through the State (not as good of coverage and high premiums)

#206 EWard on 09.01.08 at 12:35 pm

#192 Susie1945

Well said!

As a Puma, I am not going to let Governor Palin and her daughter be trashed by anyone. We know BO’s thugs will try to unleash their smear campaign. It isn’t going to work.

#207 halligan on 09.01.08 at 12:36 pm

#206

Add:

Member of National, State, and local Education Association, now member of state retired teachers association.

#208 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 12:36 pm

well, here’s my response to Greta’s “Are Pumas Real”

Comment by Bruce55555
September 1st, 2008 at 12:03 pm

Thank you for asking Greta, love your show, and yes, I’m a Puma and very proud and lucky.
If Hillary had lost the primary FAIR AND SQUARE I wouldn’t have a problem with Sen. Obama and I would have supported him.
But after witnessing the hatred, backstabing, false accusations that Hillary and Bill are racists, caucus vote fraud, and lies against Hillary from Sen. Obama, his camp, the news media and the DNC (who unfairly promoted him from the very beginning), I’ve decided to vote for any but Obama.
I like Sen. McCain’s choice for VP, I’ll probably vote for them but I am also looking into the candidates Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader.
Also finding out now that Sen. Obama is an illegitimate candidate, fake birth certificate.
Also not comfortable as to where he came from. Tough Chicago politics, has accomplished NOTHING to help people of his state Illinois, or Chicago, was a member of a church that preached hatred for 20 years, and a set of currupt and shady characters as friends and associates.
No, not for President of the United States.

#209 TexAsia on 09.01.08 at 12:37 pm

I am a retired from offshore landman….worked my way through the ranks from secretary on up. Since my retirement from the oil & gas industry in 1998, I have spent most of my time doing volunteer work advocate for the Asian/Asian American communities’ issues and concerns, but I have also served on the Gulf Coast Workforce Board aiming to improve the conditions of our workforce to be intelligent and ready to compete in the global markets. Since I was eligible to vote 40 years ago, I have voted Democrat except for Ronald Reagan. I voted for Al Gore but did not voted for Kerry. I came back to the DP because Hillary was running, but now I will either vote for McCain/Palin or stay at home in November since the DP has thoroughly messed up the primaries and the nomination of the best candidate they have ever had. Regardless of what Sarah Palin stands for, I will celebrate the fact that another woman has been nominated for a VP position on a major party, and she is not afraid to stand up against the good ole boys!!

#210 Headclunker on 09.01.08 at 12:38 pm

I heard on Fox a while ago that Palins daughter is pregnant now. And that McCain knew it when he picked her and that he consideres it her private family matter.

#211 NobamaNetwork on 09.01.08 at 12:39 pm

For the past 10 years, I am a self employed Web Designer, SEO master, graphic designer, computer geek. I am also a Diabetic with no health insurance. I never have a day off, I just steal an hour once in a while. I love technology and what it has done for us all. In my spare time, I am an artist. That is my passion. I am proud to have been a part of this election 2008. It is the best thing I have ever done. Nobama2008

#212 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 12:40 pm

Good Afternoon Fellow Pumas. I graduated from high school in 1952 and was unable to afford college. I researched the best jobs and decided to become a legal secretary. I worked as a legal secretary until 1968 when I became pregnant with my son. After his birth, I stayed home with him for 3 years and after that put him in day care. I have always been a legal secretary and retired in 1999, a total of 44 years.

I, too, am an avid environmentalist and animal lover and strongly agree with #147 Bluejay about protecting ANWR. There is no need to drill there, what needs to be done is to have the fuel efficiency raised in autos. Lobbyists from the auto industry are preventing bills in congress from passing.

#213 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 12:41 pm

Regarding the question of the day. I work full time in a Medical research lab. I really love my job. If you have ever taken a class with a lab, that is basically what I do all day, set up experiments. I like it because I like science anyway and I get to wander around various buildings to use core lab equipment which means I don’t sit in one place all the time and I get to see many different people whom I enjoy. One drawback is we run on grants and so my job could be over with a few months notice at any time. While I am employed I have good insurance benefits. If I won the lottery I would continue working.

However I was a Housewife and Mother for 17 years and that is the most rewarding and also the most difficult and energy consuming job I have ever done. I went back to a paying job when my husband pointed out that I had four volunteer jobs that kept me hopping and also made it so that I was not available to my kids.

It shows how out of touch the people in charge of the Democratic party are when they use the term “lazy housewives” but it does not surprise me to see the Dems showing a lack of respect for women and their contributions to our country. They clearly show contempt for the experience and knowledge women gain in life.

#214 Notyoursweetie on 09.01.08 at 12:42 pm

Palin smears – debunked, but still going – updates
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/anatomy-of-a-slander/

#215 shampoovta on 09.01.08 at 12:43 pm

#189 hillaryistheone wrote:

“They just announced on Fox that Sarah Palin’s 17 year old daughter is pregnant and is expected to marry the father.

I am sure the DNC will drag that young lady through the mud. This can happen to anyone, more power to Sarah!!”

They better not go there or Palin may shoot them in the face. Just kidding.

That is exactly how I came in to the world.

What are Demarcates going to argue? Should of aborted it?

They got zero.

Gustav is the stunner. This will help Republicans with this go round. They really are “acting” as states men.

This will make a striking comparison. Demarcates are show boats. Republicans want redemption.

This is there chance to “show me” what they can do.

Man I hope they have learned. America needs both parties healthy and effective.

Gustav,.. yikes.

#216 cardinalsfan on 09.01.08 at 12:43 pm

I’m sure Palin’s family values will be attacked. It makes her more real to me because she’s experiencing what any parent of a teenager daughter fears.

#217 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 12:44 pm

#205 ClearlyClinton My thoughts exactly!! :)
See # 66 :) CAN YOU IMAGINE, THO! CLINTON AND PALIN 2008!?
WOW! WOULDN’T THAT BE FUN TO SEE! MAY THE BEST WOMAN WIN!

#218 halligan on 09.01.08 at 12:45 pm

#173 EWard

I’m collecting information on Ohio (from this weekend blog). Where was the AP article?

#219 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 12:45 pm

Hi again everyone! I’ve transported to my mom’s office to do some tech work and can monitor or assist monitoring from here.

Remember to report suspicious comments or users via email to me or Murphy. I hope Mama is getting some well deserved rest and quiet.

marylandpuma@gmail.com
murphy@pumapac.org

(One of these days I’ll get my pumapac email up and running LOL)

#220 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 12:46 pm

ClearlyClinton

Nice to see you here. Welcome!

#221 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:47 pm

The age of consent is 17 in Alaska. It’s a non-issue. What will be an issue however is what Palin has stated about pre marital sex and family values blah blah blah. But for the Dems to go after her based on this would backfire I’m sure…

#222 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 12:47 pm

I’m a realtor working in southeast Florida, mostly in Broward County. Very hard work (when I’m busy), no insurance or any benefits, lucky my husband carries health insurance, not the best, they pick & choose what to pay, but it’s something.
Business has been extreeemeeely slow this past year, but still running around paying around $4. a gal. for gas showing foreclosures that 9x out of 10 don’t close.

Very frustrating but trying to make the best of it.

Love & hugs to all. :-D

#223 gostrumcat on 09.01.08 at 12:48 pm

Hi honeys, I’m home! It seems like the whole world has changed while I’ve been gone. I have been trying to skim the last 3 weeks worth of posts to see what’s going on with everyone.

I trust nobody was arrested in Denver but a lot of shenanigans were had. I’m glad so many of you were able to meet face to face. We hadn’t heard from someone in awhile as I was leaving, was it sandipuma? The one in Vegas I believe, has anyone heard from her? Also, I saw that NewOrleansPuma was ready to leave town due to the storm and hopefully we’ll be hearing from you soon.

I saw the newspaper headlines when Hillary released her delegates and I was glad I was high up in the mountains. We all did as much as we could. We’ve got a good thing going here, so let’s stick together. There’s so much more to do, this country’s a mess and we’re just the ones who can fix it.

I belong to the International Union of Operating Engineers , but work for a city park system. I oversee operations and revenue for a visitor funded segment that concerns wildlife. I have an HMO and not much better for dental, but I am paying so very little for it that I can’t complain once I see what some of you are having to do. My dad and brother are Aerospace Machinists, so union is good in my world.

Before I go read some more – Murphy, Maryland and Mama, you are incredible people and I don’t say that often. I am tough to impress and especially without knowing someone in person, but you’ve done it. We are all stronger, smarter and more dangerous to the “business as usual” political machine because of you three. We really don’t have to put up with this crap. We really do matter. We can unite to make our voices heard. So simple to say, but until now, so difficult to accomplish.

You are all wonderful! Thank you!

#224 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 12:48 pm

#86 gogandolf & 114 I think we need to keep a list of all the states that have sent in challenges to BO’s qualifications. I’m going to repost again the info to find your state and read up on what you need to do. Phil Berg, the lawyer who filed suit against Obama sent me this link for Florida. Also, go to his website obamacrimes.com to list the reasons for your objection.
“Lady Hawkke,
When a person sends a letter to any State or Government Agency, it is always best that they sign their letters. Notarizing your signature is entirely up to you as it is not a requirement on any letter you may send The procedures of the Secretary of State and the laws surrounding them vary State to State. Whether you choose to send the letter via certified mail would be up to you. I, myself, would send the letter with a signature and return address and I would send it certified mail so I know the letter was received by the Agency and the exact date they received it. It would take a considerable amount of time to check and verify the laws for each State. As you can imagine, my office is extremely busy and this would take time to research the laws of other States. The Secretary of State in each state has a website, which will give the procedures for the individual who wishes to object to a candidate or request investigations. Have you checked the SOS website for Florida? When you ask for the laws governing Agencies, I cannot give a fast response, I must research the law for that particular State. Again, my office is extremely busy and we are working pretty much 7 days a week. Florida has a Division of Elections, that site is http://election.dos.state.fl.us/division/director.shtml When you pull the website, look to the left there is a pull down menu entitled “Opinions/Rules/Laws” If you click there, you will find a wealth of information for your State. This would be a great starting point, as you may find you have further questions. Phil”

#225 Susie1945 on 09.01.08 at 12:48 pm

Happy Labor Day Pumas -

I am a retired Puma – since July 2007. I was almost always a member of a union while working – depending upon where I lived………………….Florida, not so much – Michigan – ex husband was union, me no – did mostly computer stuff ……………. Minnesota – oh yeah – most of my life(living & working here).

Good thing I am in good health & working on getting the bod back in shape because I’m not eligible for Medicare or Medicaid – whatever the hell either one is – not old enough & I will not pay $500/mth for health insurance that I will not probably use – I’ve only been in a hospital twice – when I was born and when I was 14 – had my tonsils removed – otherwise, (knock on wood) I’m in good shape – take no medications, etc. Used to just have a physical once a year which was paid for by my insurance carrier thru work……………….mostly used the insurance for dentist & vision.

I plan to be around for awhile – my curiosity to see what’s gonna happen next is very strong and I’m not ready to give up on anyone or anything at this particular moment in time – life is too short, eat dessert first….. ;)

#226 Kempion on 09.01.08 at 12:49 pm

“The Obama Movement often tries to pretend that we are rich, lazy housewives with nothing better to do than sit around and whine like sore losers, or worse — Republicans.”

Wanting to be seperated from Republicans is fine and all. But… is more division necessary?

Hate takes many forms. Some more insidious than others. We have to work hard to purge hate from our society but, also, to cleanse our own hearts of hate.

:)

#227 StarDust on 09.01.08 at 12:50 pm

I had the chance to go to college when I was young; my mother had saved for all of her girls to go to college. I was young and headstrong, thought I knew better than her and got married and started a family at age nineteen instead. My first marriage ended in divorce, so much for being young and naïve. Both of my parents had PHD and I have regretted not going to college ever since.

I made good money working for General Motors for 25 years and was forced by the company to retire early because of a devastating back injury I had received on the job, when the fork lift truck’s cab had taken me to the ceiling of the warehouse to move large metal bins (loaded with heavy car parts) decided for no apparent reason to plunge into the cement pavement of the building’s floor.

At that time they retired me from my job with only 25 years of service. I was a workaholic, with very strong work ethics. I bored easily with retirement. So I began to study everything that interested me. I studied Physics, Computer Programming, Math, Video Games, Website Designs, I wrote scores of books filled with tutorials and notes. I even had time to write 3 screen plays (never got anything published(LOL)).

Since my husband saw that I loved studying so much he finally suggested that I return to college to earn a degree for all my hard work. Puma actually gave me the idea for that degree choice (Web Design) so now I attend online college full time and blog with (you) my Puma friends. I love Puma and will never forget everything that you have done for me. I probably would not be in college now if the idea was not presented here.

#228 cardinalsfan on 09.01.08 at 12:50 pm

I am still battling with the idea of voting for a Republican. But my instincts have been warning me about Obama from the first time I saw him. My concerns are how will the economy be under McCain? Republicans aren’t known to help middle class. What about health care? Don’t think we’ll see universal health care under McCain. What about social security? Will he try to privatize it? These are real concerns for me. What say you?

#229 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 12:51 pm

Palins daughter….It’s a private family matter. If Obama wants to take this up, he would be on very, very lethal ground.

#230 NobamaNetwork on 09.01.08 at 12:51 pm

STATEMENT FROM SARAH AND TODD PALIN

For Immediate Release
Contact: Press Office

Monday, September 1, 2008
703-650-5550

ARLINGTON, VA — Today, Sarah and Todd Palin issued the following statement regarding today’s Reuters story:

“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”

###

#231 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 12:52 pm

The DNC have wasted $100 million for their Hollywood Convention, no bounce for NONAME at the polls. What an expensive smackdown against DNC and NObama.

You can dress a pig diamonds from head down to its hooves, it is still a PIG!

They have their fake greek temple, fireworks flying like Olympic 2008 in China, it did not transform into increase of support but its heading in the wrong direction.

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” – Abraham Lincoln

#232 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 12:52 pm

#195, bruce55555
Donna Brazile ” that we´re not needed and to stay home on elections day”
is this a hint of what may be coming is a generelized frau???

#233 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 12:53 pm

#221 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:47 pm The age of consent is 17 in Alaska. It’s a non-issue. What will be an issue however is what Palin has stated about pre marital sex and family values blah blah blah. But for the Dems to go after her based on this would backfire I’m sure…
***********
I would suggest they not go there, because I would bet that their kids and grandkids are/were not all angels.

#234 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 12:54 pm

#192 If it is true that Palins daughter is pregnant the religious people will not care. It is important to realize there are different cultures in our country and the people in them are for the most part fine people. They have been painted as foaming at the mouth morons by people who have contempt for their life style.

Several years ago we went to my husbands 20 year HS reunion. He comes from a small Midwest town. They basically party all weekend when they get together. I did not go to the Friday night function because I could not find a babysitter I felt good about for my 2 year old daughter. Sat night the folks I met said “hey where were you last night” I told them my babysitter problem and they said “Oh how old is your granddaughter?” They were shocked to hear a woman my age just had her second child. Some of them had their first child with their husband whom they are still married to during their senior year. These are fine religious people they are just a different culture. They will not care about her marrying and having a child at a young age. It will be the Dems who push the story, violate her privacy and will wind up looking like out of touch nags.

#235 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 12:54 pm

Check it out – video response to Greta

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZWAUtWQ1Y

I just LOVE secret informants! Specially when they’re PUMA PACers!

#236 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 12:55 pm

very good for you quote of AL
Asian 4Hillary

#237 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 12:56 pm

#229 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 12:51 pm Palins daughter….It’s a private family matter. If Obama wants to take this up, he would be on very, very lethal ground.

======

NObama will exploit it using his campaign people and supporters then he would say, ” I can’t control everything in my campaign.”

ANYTHING negative coming out of NObama supporters, I put the ENTIRE BLAME ON HIM! He CONDONE those invectives from his campaigners and supporters. His supporters are true reflection of NObama – TOTALLY UNDESIRABLE IN A CIVILIZE SOCIETY.

#238 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:58 pm

Thank you, Maryland PUMA.

I gave it another shot. Not sure how many other men are out here, but I want to dispel the notion of PUMAS being just a bunch of sore losing women…

You don’t have to be a woman to be disgusted by sexism. And it is certainly not about being a sore loser. There are many men who supported Clinton and are just as outraged at how she was treated.

We all have moms, after all.

If anyone had attacked my mom or sisters with the bile and vitriol that was spewed by the ObamaBots…well let’s just say they wouldn’t be able to talk the next day.

#239 EWard on 09.01.08 at 12:59 pm

#218 Halligan

I am attaching the link about the AP article:

ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmJpgsrR27lwSUQ24

In case my link doesn’t work – the article is dated Aug. 13 and written by Philip Elliot. If you Google Ohio’s new registration law – the article’s title is: “Ohio voting law may be a boon for Obama supporters”

#240 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 1:00 pm

232 storytellers

I’m sorry don’t understand “generalized frau”? :-)

#241 Rabblerouser on 09.01.08 at 1:00 pm

230 NobamaNetwork

How much we have changed as a society!

When I was 16 (just prior to when all hell broke loose in the 60′s) a schoolmate of mine got pregnant. They did everything but hang the Scarlet Letter on her! Her father, calling her a whore, beat her unconcious and sent her off to a nunnery to have the baby that she was then forced to give up for adoption.

BO and his henchmen better not go there…

#242 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:02 pm

#238 ClearlyClinton

Would it surprise you to know that PUMA PAC’s membership is about 45% male and 55% female?

You are not alone. I’m sure snowtiger, gandalf, goalcucard, and all the other brave members who will stand up for women.

Wizard, a dearly loved male PUMA PACer, recently passed during a white-water rafting accident. I’m sure he is smiling down at you and giving you a big PAWS UP!

#243 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 1:04 pm

#235 Maryland That was a great video, made my day. Looks like Peloser’s botox isn’t working!

#244 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 1:05 pm

#242 Maryland I’m so sorry to hear about Wizard, I remember him blogging. I’ll say a prayer for him and his family.

#245 PouncingPuma on 09.01.08 at 1:08 pm

#187 Murphy

Went there. “Comments Closed.”

#246 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 1:08 pm

Yes I am surprised. Due to what the ‘media’ is reporting. But thanks 4 telling me…

Maybe it’s because of the word PUMA and what it means in popular culture right now. I’m sure people have talked about it out here.

That’s too bad about Wizard.

#247 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 1:09 pm

Good morning from the West Coast PUMAs.
Loved Riverdaughters morning wake up call to give Hillary the rest of the year off from carrying precious over the finish line in November. Let the rockstar try to win his own flippin’ election and let us do what we can to make sure he ends up back in the senate to finish his first term as senator.
What do I do for a living? I work full time at UC Berkeley. I am a staff member working for faculty and our graduate students. The pay leaves me living paycheck to paycheck but the benifits and health insurance are great. I love my job and adore the faculty I work for. I am experienced enough to have a higher paying job, but having good health insurance and wonderful people to work with are more important to me. I am old enough to retire but can’t afford to so I will work as long as I can do my job well and continue to have good health.

#248 NobamaNetwork on 09.01.08 at 1:09 pm

241 Rabblerouser, How true times have changed. When I was 16 legal abortions did not exist in this country and young girls whose family had money went to Canada or Japan for help. The rest of the pregnant girls were locked away in a home until the baby was born and adopted out. Pregnant girls were treated like outcasts but the boys were just being boys. Time have changed. It is a shame people don’t understand the whole R vs W issue. It will not remove abortion rights, and what woman would allow that to happen, it will just take it off the federal level to the state level. Legal abortion is her to stay.

In my Grandmother’s day, women used a tool called a Slippery Willow to give themselves abortions in the bathtub. So many died. Women have suffered enough. Women will not allow governing men to send us back to the abortion dark ages. Abortion is not a magic eraser, but it is an individual choice for every woman to make. IMHO, men have no say in this matter for they will never be faced with this kind of decision and its aftermath.

#249 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 1:10 pm

I would never condemn a woman getting pregnant at a young age, anyone who do so usually have skeletons in their closet enough to commit them in state penitentiary for life. There’s something I cannot stand regardless of race – hypocrisy, it gets to me big time. When my friend’s daughter got pregnant at 15, everyone who knows her daughter called her all kinds of name. The worst was their next door neighbor. Well, lo and behold, her neighbor’s daughter was also pregnant and she was 14!

#250 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 1:14 pm

Palin’s daughter is pregnant, and she is going to get married and keep the baby. THIS IS HER CHOICE.

If the DEMS or SOB say word one about this OTHER than the fact that HOLLYWOOD, MASS MEDIA, and PRO-SEX have a deleterious effect on the young people for the last 50 years and that is a GOOD THING this young girl has a strong LOVING family, than shame on them….

This election is going to be very interesting….very very interesting…

glad I can camp at PUMA…ROCK solid and PRO-AMERICA and PRO-WOMEN…

PUMA power gives me hope for real change, and you can quote me on this :)

#251 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:15 pm

Hello PUMAs! I am new around here. While I must admit that I tend to be conservative I supported Hillary Clinton over Obama because I felt that she had the greater experience.

As an American male in his mid 20s I am completely amazed by the sexism against Hillary Clinton and now Palin.

I like to listen to liberal talk radio AND conservative radio so I can get a balanced prespective on things. I was AMAZED at the comments Obama callers would say about Hillary Clinton (“She is an old hag” “Those ‘girls’ could never get a date”)

In the end this shouldn’t be tolerated in the year 2008. Best of luck to your group!

#252 1 Lucky Lady on 09.01.08 at 1:18 pm

Palin is now feeling what HRC felt in her campaign sexism!

We need to send a clear message to the media that DESPITE our party affiliation or our voting in November….we will not stand for ANY woman being abused by the media for being a woman.

#253 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 1:18 pm

I’m an accessory designer – and owned my own business for 6 years now. It has been very successful since day one. Been featured in magazines and such.

I started with practically nothing… $8,000 loan from my husband and two credit cards. Paid everything off in 6 months. I have been debt free. However, I
worked almost 20 hours for the first 2 years with one part time employee – blood, sweat and tears is putting it mildly. I am surprised I stayed healthy all this time with lack of sleep, food, exercise etc.

Being that I didn’t have seed money, I didn’t want to go all out with expenses so did pretty much everything myself. There were days I was sweating like a pig hauling tons of heavy boxes and days when I was packing until 3 am in the morning. But I allowed myself no chance of failure. None.

I still work at least two shifts a day – sometimes till 3 or 4 am- Murphy thinks I am up early on the West coast. Fact is, I was still working.

I had no idea what kind of money I was supposed to make in order to consider my self successful in this industry. Took me 3 years to finally admit and realise that yeah, I think I did OK. When you are able to buy your husband (in the first year) a Red Porsche sports car with cash – I suppose I did well.

However, I am in all sense still the same person, I don’t own any designer items (just one Marc Jacobs leather tote last year), my SUV is 7 years old, I still shop at Ross a lot – though I do research in high end places. To me, money is not everything. Being successful in what you do is important for me.

The point of my story is that – this truly is the land of Milk and Honey if you give it your all. We are responsible for everything we do and we reap what we sow. Nothing is free and everything needs to be paid back. Help others because it will come back to help you when you least expect it.

That is why I am so passionate about who Hillary Clinton is. I respect and admire her determination, her grit and grace. I had no role model before – just a blind need to not fall flat on my face with my business. Now, I hold her famous speech in my heart.

#254 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:19 pm

Oh, by the way look at where the debate has gone down to… commenting about a t-shirt that Palin wore in college–>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/sarah-palin-photos-a-bust_n_122816.htm

#255 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:19 pm

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#256 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 1:19 pm

238 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 12:58 pm

Thank you, Maryland PUMA.

I gave it another shot. Not sure how many other men are out here, but I want to dispel the notion of PUMAS being just a bunch of sore losing women…

You don’t have to be a woman to be disgusted by sexism. And it is certainly not about being a sore loser. There are many men who supported Clinton and are just as outraged at how she was treated.

We all have moms, after all.

If anyone had attacked my mom or sisters with the bile and vitriol that was spewed by the ObamaBots…well let’s just say they wouldn’t be able to talk the next day.

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Welcome ClearlyClinton. I am a woman (even though my name may reflect the opposite :-) We are equal opportunity PUMAs and enjoy having our male PUMAs as part of the pack. I only wish the MSM that degrades women would not be able to talk for the rest of the election. That wack job that called African American girls Nappie Headed XXXX was fired from his job. Why haven’t Keith Obotman been fired along with all the other sexist pigs on MSNBC and CNN? I guess dissing a female candidate running for President and one of our First Ladies is fair game for disrespect. We will show them if their ugly behavior helps the pretender win this election.

#257 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 1:20 pm

Well, PUMAS
I have to go to my classroom to set up substitute plans for my class. This is only our second week in school, but we just found out Thursday that my husband needs surgery tomorrow . . .demotofibrosarcoma . .short term, cancer. The surgeon is a personal friend and prognosis is very good, but I’m still very worried. PUMA has been a great outlet for me. I hesitated about sharing. With all that is going on with Gustav, if I could ask for a little prayer for him from some of you I’d appreciate it. We’ve been married 35 years. . my family says I married UP! :) He really is a great man, and was once an Obama supporter, but not any more! Thank you for this place to vent.

#258 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 1:21 pm

my son has a friend from ALASKA
he went to college
but he got married right after HS
it seems that is common for people from the area and certain religious background to marry at an early age
both of his parents are HS teachers
they have travel quite a bit, and have lived abroad for years, he had been exposed to diffent cultures …etc
but still he married at a young age
in ref. to palin, that is the kind of thing that we do not want to happen to our teenagers, but if it happen ,you have to cope with it
maybe this make her more like ordinary people

#259 halligan on 09.01.08 at 1:22 pm

#239 Eward

Got it. Thank you so much.

#260 hillaryistheone on 09.01.08 at 1:23 pm

Notice my comment is awaiting moderation…LOL

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Unanswered question: Where was Obama born and wasn’t he born of the same situation???

Where is Obamas real BC. Is Obama a US citizen????

Where are the answers Obama???

#261 murphy on 09.01.08 at 1:24 pm

Yup. Teeneage girls have been getting pregnant and becoming mothers for millennia — Though it is VERY young to face motherhood at 17, the young woman has a large and supportive family and doesnt seem to lack financial resources — the MOST important factors in ensuring that a mother is able to be calm and secure enough to be a good parent.

Choice means CHOICE. A woman can choose to have the baby or terminate the pregnancy — no questions asked and no judgments made. That’s my story and I’m sticking with it.

Every pundit and political person in the USA should just keep their damn mouths shut about this.

#262 1 Lucky Lady on 09.01.08 at 1:24 pm

Now we will be hearing about Palin’s daughter by the MSM to offset the enthusiasm about Palin in the polls!

I am sure Obama people are HAPPY that this family is not as perfect as the public once thought. But they are human, and real! At least we KNOW about their family as compared to Obama’s family which we still don’t have a clear understanding what is what.

What is going on with the Birth Certificate……is the media talking about that? Obviously NOT.

#263 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 1:24 pm

#252 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 1:18 pm

Freddie and all women in this blog, I salute all of you! Majority of us are business owners or working for a living. But the HARDEST job in the world is being a mother, she doesn’t get overtime pay but expected to work ’round the clock.

To all mothers, grandmothers , this Labor Day is for you too! All Presidents of this country were raised by WOMEN.

As my father used to say, “women are the least appreciated group of people in our society, now go out there and kick butts of men who says you can’t do it.”

#264 NobamaNetwork on 09.01.08 at 1:25 pm

Murphy, here here!

The Obamanots but be desperate to find dirt of Palin, and this is all they have got so far. It is laughable.

#265 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 1:26 pm

#254 BillieJo you know I always think about that and I have often thought should I sent some of this u tube videos that have all those sexist comments on them to these pundits who just don’t understand why we begin why we won’t fall in line also sent them video’s of the fraud that has been done this election and then tell them this is why. I think some maybe shocked as I was I was not aware of all of it until I saw it on video’s but then i question would any of them have the guts to show it or talk about it? It just makes me mad when they say nasty things about us knowing we have the proof maybe I should.

#266 murphy on 09.01.08 at 1:27 pm

Best best to your husband, and to you Rancho — I’m sure all will be fine!

#267 halligan on 09.01.08 at 1:27 pm

PUMAS

Thank you so much for sharing your personal information about jobs, life’s duties and family involvement. You are all great American, Canadian, and Asian treasures. I’ve been blessed in my life and feel so honored to be in your company as well.

I’m working on gathering Ohio voting information. Many have shared. (myhalligan1@gmail.com) I hope to have it out by tomorrow. Delayed a bit because I went blackberry picking yesterday. Ended up picking cherries instead so the blackberries are today. Got dumped on in a rain storm, soaked to the skin, but nothing like our friends to the south (Gulf Coast). Keep them in my prayers every minute, every hour, each day.

Again, thank you for sharing about your lives.

#268 1 Lucky Lady on 09.01.08 at 1:27 pm

If Obama’s people even try to paint the Palin daughter issue as an ISSUE it will backfire on them. This is a private matter.

People who live in Glass Houses should……. you know the rest.

#269 NobamaNetwork on 09.01.08 at 1:28 pm

It has been lovely to see something other than Oblahblah on Fox the past couple of days. I am happy to see things have turned around in New Orleans. I am looking forward to the GOP convention. McCain is already showing wonderful leadership in changing the format of his convention to serve his country instead of hiself. Refreshing.

#270 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 1:28 pm

palin´s family is more real that a barbie´s family

#271 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 1:29 pm

Thank you Murphy . . tears are overwhelming me. I know it will be fine, though.

#272 shadowbee on 09.01.08 at 1:31 pm

#196 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 12:27 pm So what if her 17 years old daughter is pregnant as if that is rare nowadays
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This is what the Dems are saying in response to Bristol Palin’s pregnancy.
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Some out there will call this insensitive or a smear, but the facts are facts….Bristol Palin is only 17 years old, and she is pregnant. Some may not think this is a big deal in today’s society, but when your mother is running for VP of the United States and is running on ultra-conservative family values, and advocates abstinence, this sure as hell deserves front page headlines! Why can’t people see through this Republican VP nominee as a joke and a smokescreen to hide John McCain’s poor record????

Its all just more of the same.

#273 halligan on 09.01.08 at 1:31 pm

#257 Rancho

My prayers are with you and your husband. Lesson plans at the beginning of the school year – yuk! I remember those days very clearly. It took longer to make the sub plans than to teach. Let the sub earn their pay and you just be with your hubby. School goes on, no matter what.

#274 queen81 on 09.01.08 at 1:32 pm

Good luck Rancho, you will certainly be in my prayers.

I also have not shared, but in early July my mother was disgnosed with Cancer. Her’s is not operable so lots of Chemo. My posting certainly tapered off after that, as I handle most of her care and dr appts etc. Know that you are certainly not alone in this and if you need to vent or chat please do not hesitate to let me know :-)

#275 mkp651 on 09.01.08 at 1:34 pm

#257 Rancho
Many prayers to you and your family!

#276 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:35 pm

Believe me PUMAs, the conservative religious won’t turn away from Palin because of her daughter. They will rejoice that the family is coming together to support each other.

You PUMAs won’t turn away from Palin (if you do support her, I know that you can certainly be a PUMA and not support her) because you believe a young woman should be supported in her choices… regardless.

But watch. Dailykos is going to be very rough. You folks are going to have to defend this young girl.

#277 slyt2 on 09.01.08 at 1:35 pm

#257 Rancho you don’t even have to ask twice , I will put you in my prays. Surgery is scary and the word cancer is even scary thank you for sharing what your going thru and we will all be here to support you and pray for you in your time of need and I am sure your surgeon friend knows what he is talking about which sounds like very good news..

#278 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 1:36 pm

#254 BillieJo

“I guess dissing a female candidate running for President and one of our First Ladies is fair game for disrespect. We will show them if their ugly behavior helps the pretender win this election.”

Actually, I knew a girl in HS named BilleJo.

The ‘pretender” is not going to win. Thanks to him and his supporters, the Party is divided. No matter what propaganda they spew.

It will be interesting to see in 2012 if Palin and Clinton are both the candidates. How is the sexist media going to cover that? Ha!

I agree…they should have been fired. No one questioned the outrage led by Sharpton. So why is it that when PUMAS are outraged about something equally offensive that nothing done? Why is it that the ones who were offended are being attacked once again?

Because no one thinks there will be any repercussions.

Prove them WRONG.

#279 Rancho on 09.01.08 at 1:36 pm

Thanks halligan for “words of wisdom”
and queen 81 for living through it and understanding

#280 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 1:37 pm

#267 halligan on 09.01.08 at 1:27 pm

Do you make blackberry jam? I have to buy next week a case of peaches, and strawberries. I always make preserves in summer, I send them to all my friends during christmas with homemade baked cookies. I can’t remember the last time I bought preserves at the grocery, I always make my own including grape jelly. I try making orange marmalade one time, I gave up. So hard to do. :lol:

Here’s a funny stuff about my “oatmeal cookies”. I experimented one time adding dried cranberries to my cookies. I didn’t know you must “rehydrate” it. It was soft when it got out of the oven and taste good too. The following day I pack my cookies and mailed it overnight to my friend in LA. About 4 days after he received the package he called me. The first thing he said, “do you hate me?” I was kind of surprise. He told me he’s in his dentist office, one of his tooth broke while eating my cookies, he told me it was hard as a rock. After we hang up, I went to my kitchen and try my cookies…..it was hard as a rock. I soaked it in milk, it was still hard. So, I wear my cowboy boots, went to my driveway with two cookies on my right hand. Drop cookies on the pavement, stomp them – it didn’t break. I start jumping on them! they’re still whole!!!!!! ahahahaha!!

I quit making oatmeal cookies after that. My friend now has a crown, thanks to my cookies. :lol:

#281 Tomboys on 09.01.08 at 1:40 pm

I am self employed in pet care and I pay $420 a month for health care even though I am in perfect health and rarely use it.

#282 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:44 pm

Update: MAJOR CLINTON SUPPORTER REFUSES TO SUPPORT OBAMA–> See the video:

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/01/top-hillary-supporter-switches-to-mccain.aspx

#283 john on 09.01.08 at 1:45 pm

How Many Good, Qualified Women Will We Allow Obama and the DNC to Destroy?

#284 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:47 pm

Ok, I’ll share, although I have already!

I’m a full-time college student, single parent, part-time eBay seller, part-time employee at the college I attend, a ‘helper’ for my family, school volunteer (daughter’s), Murphy’s right paw for PUMA PAC and a staunch defender of democracy and activist against sexism and misogyny in all venues of life.

#285 dcattorney on 09.01.08 at 1:47 pm

that’s it. I’ve had it. The continual trashing of pregnant women, young women, old women, all of us reduced to our reproductive organs by the remaining people in the Democrat Partry. It’s got to change and SOON. I’ve been sitting on the fence but I’m now PUMA.
Enough is enough!

#286 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 1:48 pm

#228 cardinalsfan

I am still battling with the idea of voting for a Republican.
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You don’t need to vote for a Republican, you can do what ever you think is best, just know us PUMAs will not vote for Obama.
I wondered about all the policies the Democratic Party has fought for all my life, but this year we saw corruption in our own party that well surpasses any dirty tricks the Republicans have ever pulled in past elections.
Do you really think the pretender will fix our economy (neither he nor Biden have economic experience), stand up for American integrity in the world (while he is corrupt to the bone in the election), set up Universal Health Care with the economy in the dumper and he didn’t agree to Universal Health Care, that is Hillary’s baby, he just agreed to a discount in health care deductibles. After all his lies, flip flops and corruption do you really believe we will be better off with him driving the bus? The only advances that will come if he wins is with the Democratic congress (and we have seen how badly that has gone in the past 8 years), and if he has the wisdom to put good people in his cabinet. He is afraid of not having the spotlight so he will probably not be wise in those decisions either.
These are thoughts I struggled with and these are my conclusions with my vote.

#287 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 1:49 pm

#224 LADYHAWKKE – I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO KEEP A LIST OF THOSE THAT SENT A LETTER TO THE Secretary of State and AG regarding OBAMAS eligibility to be on the ballot of each state -
So far that I know about is: Indiana, California, Ohio, Penna, Georgia, Utah and Florida – if there are any others here that sent a letter let me know for the continued list – I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST WEEK TO DO SO because of State deadlines -

#288 TMendez on 09.01.08 at 1:50 pm

shadowbee: Why can’t people see through this Republican VP nominee as a joke and a smokescreen to hide John McCain’s poor record????

While I don’t agree with some of McCain’s positions, to say that Palin is a smokescreen to hide his record is itself a joke. McCain has an admirable record of reaching across the aisle and standing by his principles.

And the fact that Palin has a 17 year old daughter who is pregnant just further confirms that she is a regular American working mother who is facing regular American issues. The fact that her daughter is facing up to the consequences of her actions speaks well of her and her parents.

#289 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 1:50 pm

#282 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:44 pm Update: MAJOR CLINTON SUPPORTER REFUSES TO SUPPORT OBAMA–> See the video:

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/01/top-hillary-supporter-switches-to-mccain.aspx
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That is Greta’s hubby.

#290 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:51 pm

#282 ManAgainstObamasSexism

THAT IS Greta Von Ses’s HUSBAND in that VIDEO – a Clinton supporter going for McCAIN!

#291 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:51 pm

Dailykos questions whether a mother of five can hold a high office. “Questions her devotion to her family.”

Wow, so now working moms with kids at home are being questioned about their devotion to their family?

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/9/1/13540/20367/15#c15

#292 mesofreee on 09.01.08 at 1:52 pm

Laura Bush is coming out against misogyny against Palin, Hannity is too.

Obama keeps using Hillary. I don’t like it at all.

#293 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:53 pm

They’re from MARYLAND? OMG!

#294 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 1:54 pm

#224 ladyhawkke
Thanks for spear-heading this. It is incredibly important.
My letter is going out to Debra Bowen, SOS in CA, cc to Jerry Brown, Attorney General.

Thanks again!

My all the animal spirits hug you!

#295 Headclunker on 09.01.08 at 1:54 pm

WAS CLINTON’S CONVENTION SPEECH EDITED?

I think the MSM is up to their old tricks hyping BO. I watched the speech on Fox and MO was making nasty faces during the speech. I went to look at the speech videos on Fox, C-Span and CBS. Fox edited out the audience shots and the others have cheery clips of MO. The thing is, that it looks like the same clip, inserted again and again.

Did anyone record the speech off of Fox to compare the MO shots?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaUbFk4xp9A

#296 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 1:56 pm

Asian4Hillary – When I grow up, I wanna be like you..
except no thanks on the cookies.

I loved hearing what everyone does for a living.
I think I have to add that since July 6, I am a full time PUMA and a part time business owner. No joke.

And not sure which job I love more..

#297 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 1:56 pm

#283 john
Oh no, they are not destroying us, they are fueling the fire. The Wild Fire. :lol:

#298 nativegirl on 09.01.08 at 1:57 pm

A PUMA earlier had stated that websites would post up for donations. You can help the victims by making a financilal gift to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund. The Red Cross honors donor intent, if you wish to designate. Call 1-800-257-7575. You can send contributions to your local Red Cross chapter and by visiting http://www.redcross.org. I will post more information on organizations you can donate to for victims of the Hurricane as I get them.

nativegirl

#299 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 1:57 pm

Hillary better not make a mistake of attacking Sarah Palin, she will lose support from her base of the party. I have the gut feeling NObama and DNC will use her as a proxy to attack Sarah Palin, I hope she would say NO to that.

#300 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 1:59 pm

I need to go out and decompress. See all of you later….

#301 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 2:03 pm

Ok – out of pocket for a bit. Shopping and goin home – back to my satellite internet….sigh. :(

#302 pamawo on 09.01.08 at 2:04 pm

I am always glad to see people fighting sexism, misogyny. But, where were all these people when it was directed at Hillary? I guess it’s OK when it isn’t one of your own. This is the reason it thrives and will continue to do so.

#303 Susie1945 on 09.01.08 at 2:09 pm

Hi Pumas -

been checking out the other blogs today and I found something disturbing on No Quarter – when the DNC moved from the Pepsi Center over to Invesco Field for “the one’s” coronation – clean up of the center was obviously on the agenda – however, they threw the American Flags in the Garbage??????????!!!!!!!!!! WTF???? I truly cannot believe that my Democratic Party is really, truly, that stupid – this is absolutely unforgiveable and if they are not called out on it – then there is something seriously wrong about us too. As I write this, my little brain is churing furiously – as I’ve stated before, I have not had good luck with getting letters published in our local rag – but I am composing a letter in my head as I write & if they do not publish it I will keep sending it and sending it and sending it & I will also be sending it to the DFL here in Minnesota and two my senators – 1 repub, 1 dem – and we’ll see what kinda shit hits the fan from this. How I loathe that empty suit and his thugs……………….. :evil:

#304 gocleffnote on 09.01.08 at 2:09 pm

I love my job as the Development Director for a large social service agency. I have insurance through work but the premiums come from our salary and they just went up another $100 per month at the beginning of this fiscal year. College grad with graduate work under my belt.

#305 Lin4Hill on 09.01.08 at 2:11 pm

PUMAs, isn’t it wonderful to see how diverse and educated, and intelligent we PUMAs are????
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Re: Palin’s family

Probably every family in the world has had to deal with the situation Governor Palin is experiencing now. No one has the right to cast a stone or point a finger.
The MAJORITY of my students have parents who were anywhere from 15 to 18 years old when they gave birth, and many remain unmarried. Most of them have siblings from a variety of fathers. Our country should be way beyond making anything like this an issue.

If the media does–it is just another jump on the sexist ladder. Certainly there is a male counterpart to the situation—???? I agree–it is a totally private matter. Not everyone behaves as Jamie Spears and makes money off of it.
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Rancho, I will keep your husband in my prayers and hope all will go well.
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Prayers to all my fellow Gulf Coast neighbors–stay safe. My city is crowded with Louisiana cars. Saw several at the local Krispy Kreme place this morning. Take care Texas, Mississippi, and my friends in southern Alabama.

#306 firechief on 09.01.08 at 2:13 pm

I manage construction projects.
Am also parent of two totally wonderful teenagers.
We also own a business that employs 25 people, all of whom are provided excellent health insurance and benefits…so we know first-hand how difficult and expensive it can be, especially for small businesses. Hard to find good insurance, and hard to pay for it.

I miss Hillary.

#307 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 2:13 pm

Laura Bush and others speaking out against misogyny directed at Gov. Palin.
I think this is wonderful.
Was Hillary an orphan?

#308 StarDust on 09.01.08 at 2:14 pm

I think it’s great that Greta’s husband as a Hillary supporter is coming out now in support of John McCain. The interviewer could not understand him going against his own party and asked questions about how he could support a republican after supporting Hillary and what his defiance was going to do to her.

Stop blaming Hillary this is not her fault, she was the solution. The DNC has no one to blame but themselves for this mess. I am also so sick of people trying to say that we should just fall in line like good little unintelligent creatures. If the party insists on pushing an ill prepared, unintelligent, unscrupulous character for President, it becomes our right and duty as American citizens to stand up and fight against it.

I refuse to fall in line to corruption and only hope to enlist as many intelligent, courageous Pumas as I can – to stop it.

#309 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 2:14 pm

#282 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 1:44 pm Update: MAJOR CLINTON SUPPORTER REFUSES TO SUPPORT OBAMA–> See the video:

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/01/top-hillary-supporter-switches-to-mccain.aspx

Wow, thanks for the update!

#310 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 2:15 pm

Rancho, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

#311 maxgrader on 09.01.08 at 2:18 pm

I was born on an island where the ponies swim from Maryland to Virginia. Mom was married to a man in the Navy.

Grew up near a beach in California.

Man in the Navy divorced Mom to pursue other women.

Was a normal, gregarious little runt who loved to collect Beatle cards and watch sports.

School to me was like Disneyland. My 5th grade teacher is still alive and my friend today.

Loved being a cub scout.

Last went to a barber at the age of 12.

Started high school and was told to cut my hair. Got into a fight with the vice principle about that(almost). Did not cut my hair. Dress code was changed the very next year.

Switched from being outgoing to a loner. Why? Because all my so called friends were growing up and starting to smoke dope. I told them to F*** off. That was not for me. I also couldn’t get laid (oops, can I say that?). Delete if you must. :-)

Started living in a car after graduating from high school.

Failed in my attempt to be the greatest thing to music since the Beatles.

Moved to Texas to be a gas station attendent

Discovered I hate work. Retired for a short time. Seeing that Mom lived in Texas too I asked if I could come back and rest a while from a “hard life”.

THEN… I was offered a “tentative agreement” with an insurance company. Spent the next 22 years there just stuffing envelopes and talking to friends. With the exception of the friends, the job bored me but paid well enough.

The paucity of my paychecks I considered capital to be invested. Then created a finacial goal for myself… SO I COULD STOP WORKING ASAP… FOREVER.

Finally it happened. At the age of 50 I retired for the last time and metricualted at a community college just for kicks. Got involved with broadcasting and had my own radio show (played the oldies and jazz). My fondest memory is of a lovely young lady who once during class walked up to me, messed up my Beatle haircut and said to the rest of the class, “Isn’t he cute. Isn’t he cute?”

I was also called PHAT in college.

Always have had good health. I run and pump. Don’t smoke or drink. Haven’t been to a doctor since my tonsils were taken out (probably wasn’t necessary).
Only thing in life I despise are medical doctors. I believe in fate and will not fight it when it’s my time to go.

Lord willing, I’ll make it to 100 and my cat Cici to 20. I love life and her so much.

I’m currently having fun as a silly puma

:-)

P.S. My hero is Mom, God rest her soul.

#312 kat in your hat on 09.01.08 at 2:21 pm

Hello Pumas,

I’m sure some of you heard that Governor Sarah Palin’s 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Her name is Bristol, and she is unmarried, and she will be marrying the father.

John McCain knew of this before he decided on Sarah Palin for VP.

This announcement came today to squelch vicious rumors on liberal blogs; these blogs were spreading the rumor that Sarah Palin’s newborn son Trig was really not her child but her eldest daughter’s son. Now we see that it is not possible because of birth time tables, apparently.

Many of Obama’s supporters now have switched gears and they are now blaming Sarah for her daughter becoming pregnant at 17. They are also calling her daughter names.

I would just like to say, that I don’t think this is anything to be ashamed about, and she is going on to marry the father. This family is pro-life, and maybe it should be embraced as a blessing, albeit a challenge.

To Obama supporters who want to judge:

Barack Obama’s OWN MOTHER had him when she was a teenager!!

Don’t be hypocrites.

#313 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 2:22 pm

let the trash media portray themself as what they really are a bunch of misogynistic, sexist ,male chauvinist

#314 Beca4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 2:24 pm

299 Asian4Hillary,

I will be very surprised if Hillary makes a comment about this, Hillary cares about all women issues, including having a child.

#315 bruce55555 on 09.01.08 at 2:25 pm

oh maxgrader, loved reading your story, you should write a book!

#316 ssmithssmith on 09.01.08 at 2:25 pm

Hi guys…hillary supporter for mccain here. I understand Palin’s daughter is preganant, and I as, a PUMA wanted to express that that has nothing to do with my support for mccain/palin.

I will be sick to my stomach if these frauds go after this poor kid. I AM A STAUNCH PRO-CHOICE PERSON: People need to realise.. pro-choice means ITS YOUR CHOICE.. some may abort such a baby, others, like bristol, would want to keep it..IT IS A CHOICE. Just b/c I’m pro-choice, I’m not pro-abortion, the kid got pregnant, it happens, I am more upset.. that these loser Dems (and I say this as a TRUE progressive dem in the mold of FDR/CLINTON) are going to drag this poor kid thru mud, along with her mom..

the loony left, who now run the undemocratic party are mad b/c bristol did not make the CHOICE they wanted.. which is abort the baby.. for bristol’s case and for sarah’s 5th kid who had down syndrome

I for one am thankful Mccain looked at Palin’s qualifiecations and still decided to make her the VP… a man in that same position who be treated this way. Mccain did not allow this double standard to get in the way of picking someone qualified like sarah palin.

I’m still voting mccain/palin…. and wanna talk about hypocrasy? just look up the john edwards affair! I am sick to have ever been part of this stupid “democratic” party!

You know if this had happened to a man, they would not be making such a big deal of it. I have more respect for Mccain b/c apprarently he knew this and still judged Sarah Palin on her qualifications only, and I will be still proud to support mccain/palin.

I am no longer watching any TV, Obama and his minions will no doubt go after Sarah and this poor kid, and BUT this PUMA will still support Mccain/Palin and thank Mccain for not having a double standard for Palin.

#317 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 2:26 pm

Wow. CNN, in the tank for Nobama, is now going after Palin’s husband, Todd. Apparently, he got a DUI 24 years ago so all the Obots are attacking their entire family now. Nevermind, that Nobama is friends with terrorists and racists and we have no clue where he was actually born, a 24 yr old DUI when the guy was in his 20s and a pregnant daughter is the main concern of this country. The Democrats have turned into the epitomy of hypocrisy and hate-filled people. Terrible.

#318 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 2:27 pm

really cute story maxgrader

#319 maxgrader on 09.01.08 at 2:28 pm

#315 bruse5555,

Thank you, my friend. My 5th grade teacher has suggested the same. If I ever need some extra cash I may just give writing a try.

Oh by the way. My tonsils were taken out at the age of ten.

And I don’t want health insurance. Screw the system and the ethics of doctors.

#320 LivingGrace on 09.01.08 at 2:29 pm

If I hear one more time about Palin’s daughter being pregnant, I’m going to break this computer. It’s really not a unique event, unless she pregnant by immaculate conception, and even then, it would not be unique.

#321 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 2:31 pm

There is something I have been wanting say for awhile:

If there was any doubt that the media was in the Obama camp from the beginning.

Consider the following:

Bill Clinton in 1992 came in 3rd in Iowa. Then he came in 2nd in NH. He called himself the “comeback kid” and the media jumped all over it.

Flash forward…

Hillary comes in 3nd in Iowa in 2008. Then, she turns around and then WINS in NH. Now, me being a bit naive, naturally thought the media would draw the obvious comparisons with Bill back in 1992. At the very least, I thought the story would be about Hillary’s amazing win – especially when ALL THE POLLS had Obama winning by a large margin.

Then, Hillary not only wins, but wins HUGE.

What was the story?

HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT OBAMA!

Huh???

If there is anyone out there with a strong stomach and don’t have breakables in the room, just watch this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xax4ibL7po

Charlie Rose had one Politician & several Journalists on his show that night – gushing about Obama:

Bill Bradley, Arianna Huffington, Al Hunt, Steve McMahon & Mark Halprin.

Only Mark Halprin, towards the end of the show came right out and said that “the media” was Pro Obama. He was then promptly shouted down – more than once.

Just watch it…It is sickening.

From that day forward I knew the deck was stacked against her.

Someone please tell me how someone who comes in 3rd in Iowa, then turns around and WINS New Hampshire is not THE STORY??? She performed better than her husband, who went on to WIN THE WHITE HOUSE for God’s sake!

And Obama is still the story???

Disgusting.

I don’t care who wins in 2008 (actually I have my own preference) just as long as it is not Obama.

This was a coronation / conspiracy between The DNC & the Media that circumvented the voice of the people and destroyed the democratic process.

He cannot win. We will not allow him to win.

Period.

#322 Beca4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 2:32 pm

BHO camp will do anything to go after Palin’s family because there is nothing on her record that they can talk about, the only matter pending is the investigation for getting corrupted Republicans out of the office, I feel sorry for them, they will be sore loosers for not nominating Hillary!

#323 mijabsnji on 09.01.08 at 2:33 pm

I have retired from being a stay home house wife and now groom dogs because we can not make it on social security. My Husband is retired and an amputee,he has medicare and I will too next year. My United Health Care comes from my husbands place of work before retirement and is 219.00 a month. I use to show dogs till we could know longer aford it. My husband and I have both been boy scout leaders for our two boys.

#324 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 2:35 pm

OK – who hasn’t shared yet? What do you do for a living ?

#325 Lin4Hill on 09.01.08 at 2:35 pm

This will only backfire on BO’s camp if they take this attack. BO himself admits to drug use, and there is much worse in his history that has not been unveiled. Half of Hollywood (his endorsers) have histories in drugs or worse. BO and your thugs, shut up already!

Our current president snorted a few himself and guzzled bottles dry. This is idiocy.

McCain chose the Governor. Not her husband or her children. He chose her.

McCain himself says he is an imperfect man.
I am an imperfect PUMA.
Back to the real issues, America. The real issues. The voter fraud. BO’s people don’t want us talking about that–it’s a decoy.

#326 antifish on 09.01.08 at 2:36 pm

Oops, I posted on the wrong thread. Repost:

Don’t know if anyone posted this yet, but it’s another awesome Puma video. Give it some love!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZWAUtWQ1Y

#327 mijabsnji on 09.01.08 at 2:36 pm

Nobama is just running scared because he knows he won’t win now.

#328 LivingGrace on 09.01.08 at 2:38 pm

The only way anyone can sell any product is by convincing a certain population that they really need or cannot live without the product. The same applies to healthcare. If people watched their diets, and exervised the muscles that God gave them, they might find they are actually mormal, healthy human beings who do not need witch doctor’s with pieces of paper that say they are experts. We have the most advanced ‘health care’ on trhe face of the earth, with the lowest ‘cure’ rate. How many people here can actuall;y say they know someone who was ‘cured’ by going to a doctor? How many can say they go to the doctor and are sent for ‘tests’,'xrays’, ‘treatments’, given ‘prescriptions’ ( drugs pushed on us by Pharaceutical Company DEALERS)~~~ and told to come back in two weeks for more of the same, while they are given outragewous bills or their ‘insurance’ companies are given outragous bills. When we purchase insurand we are just betting against ourselves~~~betting that we WILL get sick, rather than affirming that we are really in excellent health.
Our ‘healthcare system’ is the biggest scam on the face of the earth. It actually causes more illness than health. But it’s providers enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the woprld while we grovel and beg for ‘insurance’ to pay for their excess.

#329 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 2:39 pm

Bristol Palin and Levi live in a small town and have probably known each other since they we 2 years old. Their grandfathers probably know each other, their fathers and mothers probably work together. I would guess they will be just fine and that their affection for each other probably started long before the burden of hormones came over them.

Anyone who has a problem with this young couple has a problem with small town reality.

#330 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 2:40 pm

i grew up thinking that it was the GOP that had control of the MSM ..now I’m beginning to see I was wrong.
One would imagine that the GOP with it’s powerful rich corporate members would and could counter MSM unabashed bias for obama and against his opponents..
it’s mind blowing to think how much support the obama campaign has received from the MSM..
now they are going to slime palin with sexism just like they did hillary..
are we going to let them get away with this twice?
if we do SHAME ON US!

#331 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 2:44 pm

I find something interesting in that Hillary askedher supporters to follow Bo. She didn’t half ask or hint at asking, she came right out with it. Like it or not.

But Bo has never asked his supporters to lay off the attacks that they are so famous for.

If Hillary can convince some of her supporters to follow her wishes, surely Bo can convince some of his. But he chooses to not ask. Therefore, when he lays claim that he can’t control what his supporters say, he’s full of it. He hasn’t tried.

#332 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 2:44 pm

I find something interesting in that Hillary askedher supporters to follow Bo. She didn’t half ask or hint at asking, she came right out with it. Like it or not.

But Bo has never asked his supporters to lay off the attacks that they are so famous for.

If Hillary can convince some of her supporters to follow her wishes, surely Bo can convince some of his. But he chooses to not ask. Therefore, when he lays claim that he can’t control what his supporters say, he’s full of it. He hasn’t tried.

#333 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 2:44 pm

I find something interesting in that Hillary askedher supporters to follow Bo. She didn’t half ask or hint at asking, she came right out with it. Like it or not.

But Bo has never asked his supporters to lay off the attacks that they are so famous for.

If Hillary can convince some of her supporters to follow her wishes, surely Bo can convince some of his. But he chooses to not ask. Therefore, when he lays claim that he can’t control what his supporters say, he’s full of it. He hasn’t tried.

#334 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 2:45 pm

Someone posted on CNN comments re: Todd Palin’s 24 year old DUI, :

” Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne in his car, and he’s still in the senate. The Democrats better leave this one alone.”

#335 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 2:45 pm

Sorry for the triple post.

#336 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 2:47 pm

re#334 freddie
hey freddie great point!

#337 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 2:48 pm

#257 Rancho So sorry to hear about your husband. I will certainly pray for him and do wish him a speedy recovery. He can fight this, nothing is impossible.

#338 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 2:49 pm

obamas been lucky so far in burying his past.. but sooner or later his luck is going to run out

#339 thecandypoem on 09.01.08 at 2:50 pm

Hillary, don’t do anything more for Obama. You have done more than enough! He did nothing for you.

OK. I am a mother, my son is in law school, I just got my second MFA, in writing, I support all women who try to break glass ceilings. In this crucial election, I don’t have to agree with Palin on all the issues, but I admire her attitude, her spunk, and her gutsy demeanor. Moreover, I do not trust Obama at all. Who is he? Who owns him? And I loathe what he, and the DNC, and the media, did to Hillary. Woman-bashing has to end in this country. So I feel very comfortable in my two-pronged move, to vote against Obama and his cronies, and to vote for Palin, who can finally break the highest glass ceiling in the world. This election has suddenly become fun again.

#340 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 2:51 pm

Trish–I like reading your posts…3x is fine with me

#341 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 2:51 pm

NObama sow the seeds of HATRED and MYSOGYNISM, now he’s washing off his hand about rumors his own campaign and supporters about Down Syndrome son of Palin.

NObama and his supporters belong to the gutter where pigs wallow in the mud!

NObama and his supporters are totally DISGRACEFUL! Their hatred, viciousness and lies makes a devil looks like an angel!

#342 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 2:52 pm

thecandypoem—
YES. YOU WIN THE AWARD for SPOT ON DEFININITION of why I am happy again…

“because this election has suddently become fun again.”

And may the best woman win :)

#343 Ario on 09.01.08 at 2:52 pm

hey guys and gals..

im a classical musician and music teacher for 10 years. black, male, single and 35 years old. i just left greta a message.

as far as palins daughter…my mom got pregnat with me at 15 and abortion in my family isnt even an option. i think obama and his buffoons know better than to utter one word. i think they realize they have the sexism card tied very closely to his name.

#344 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 2:53 pm

I second everything Asian says…if she will allow me to….

#345 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 2:53 pm

#340 jenniforhillary

lol thanks, most people I know stop listening to me on my first try nevermind the third :P

#346 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 2:53 pm

ario–honestly if puma was a dating scene you would not be single for long :)

#347 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 2:54 pm

http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/up-yours-obama-sticker-bumper/274255398

I know I probably shouldn’t put up commercial things but you can get a bumpersticker with the sort of images at the top of this page at the above link. I plan to photocopy mine onto iron on transfer paper (Oh yes I was a room mother and campfire leader!) and iron it onto the back of my Hillary voter for McCain shirt.

http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/item/lemmings-for-obama-womens-cap-sleeve-tshirt/263049084

They also have this nice “Lemmings for Obama” shirt but I don’t have the guts to wear it. I think it could be pretty confrontational. Still I love it too!

#348 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 2:54 pm

PUMAs : What in your opinon, do you think we as PUMAs can do to help stop Obama from winning this election ?

Please put on your thinking cap. Everyone has a voice and an opinion. Please let us hear it. If Murphy put you in charge and said, this is your focus – what would each of you do ?

This is not a fun question – it is to get collective input to execute a plan.

#349 Ario on 09.01.08 at 2:55 pm

jennifer…

if i could blush i would…lol

#350 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 2:57 pm

I am so sorry for all the (((((PUMAs that are seriously ill and have family memebers that have serious health issues.)))
My son has Ulcerative Colitis, he is 24 with no health insurance, so what little I make I always have to help him pay for medication and doctor bills. He often has lost his job from this ugly disease.

On a lighter note….

I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one, “The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo

Any I missed?

#351 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 2:57 pm

freddie..the answer is obvious and simple..
support mccain palin ..
there is no other option at this point..

#352 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 2:58 pm

#343 Ario on 09.01.08 at 2:52 pm
hey guys and gals..
im a classical musician and music teacher for 10 years. black, male, single and 35 years old. i just left greta a message.

as far as palins daughter…my mom got pregnat with me at 15 and abortion in my family isnt even an option. i think obama and his buffoons know better than to utter one word. i think they realize they have the sexism card tied very closely to his name.

***** ARIO ******* You da Man !! Thanks for sharing.
The more I know about people, the more I love my dog Fred.

#353 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 2:58 pm

palin just aannounced that her 17 yr old daughter is pregnant~ ohh boy! here we go!! they are gonna make such bs of this!

#354 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 2:59 pm

freddiebrown,
that is a valid question… I’m just feeling REALLY good right now and I want to share some stuff from a conversation that I just had in person with a delegate.

#355 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 2:59 pm

#349 Ario on 09.01.08 at 2:55 pm

I love classical music, my first exposure to music before I could write my name. I studied piano when I was 6 years old, the first piece I’ve learned was composition of Chopin. But I quit! :lol:

My Aunt was a concert pianist, she was my teacher, but was soooooooo strict!

#356 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 3:00 pm

billiejo~ bozo!!! how could you forget?

#357 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 3:00 pm

#348 freddiebrown

my first thought is we reach out to more people through e-mails, opinion pieces in newspapers, letters to the editor. i know we’ve done that but this time with a different message, this time we talk about why its important that America is presided over by the right person and why we think Obama is not that person. Write positive, uplifting articles, letters, etc. not placing blame but rather commending who you think the right choice is. Even if that choice is out of the running right now.

#358 sunnypuma on 09.01.08 at 3:00 pm

Hi, Way back in 1974, when they decided to implement affirmative action, I was the first female cable splicer in the state of Michigan for the phone company. Froze my retirement . My husband and I now have our own company. We have insurance for family of 5 at $1000 a month that doesn’t cover anything. There are no groups in which we can fall into.

#359 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 3:00 pm

Pink PUMA –

I mean detailed plan. As in what CAN we do – action wise. Not words, not thoughts but actual ground /grass roots work.

We cannot afford to be angry amoungst ourselves. We have to “do something” to reap something.

#360 CasperCat on 09.01.08 at 3:01 pm

I was a District Manager for an upscale resturant for about 12 years. I got so tired of doing that and I decided to start investing in Real Estate (income producing real estate) after purchasing several properties I stared law school and went for 3 1/2 years at night to get my JD. Now, I am Real Estate Investor and work for myself. I collect Antiques and I volunteer alot with helping the Animals…Especially, Spay and Neuter and with the Feral CAT Problems… TNR Trap Nueter and Release( as long as they have a caregiver)..I am 45 years and have worked for myself since I was 35 years. My Health Insurance cost me $250.00 per mo.(Major Medical) I would have to cover the first $5,000.00.

#361 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:01 pm

obama hypocrite bastards..
obamas mom was a teenager when she was pregnant with the messiah.. and i can bet you it was not an immaculate conception

#362 utahpuma on 09.01.08 at 3:01 pm

#348 freddiebrown

I have already sent certified letters to the Utah Lt. Governor (who is responsible for state elections) and the Utah Attorney General requesting that Obama be required to provide absolute proof of being a natural born U.S. citizen as stated in the Utah law for anyone seeking federal office, before his name is placed on a Utah state ballot. I have emailed the state Republican Party and notified them of my request-hoping they will assist in this. I will also be submitting a Letter to the Editor of the Salt Lake Tribune asking others to also request this. That’s all I could think of for now, but I’m not done!!

#363 Ario on 09.01.08 at 3:02 pm

asian…

cool!

hey does anyone think mccain knew about this “situation” before he picked palin?

#364 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:02 pm

Oh good grief about Palin:
Hillary and Palin need to have a conversation about keeping your child out of the media…

The clintons may have been bashed but the media went after Chelsea ONE DAY in this campaign and that was IT.

Bill and Hillary have done a hell of a job of protecting their daughter, even now.

#365 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:02 pm

348 Freddie – What can we do to make sure Obama is not elected -That is an easy one for me – but seems to be overlooked by a lot – GET TO EACH OF THE SECRETARY OF STATES and not have his name on the ballot – if he does not have the credentials to get on the ballot then he will get NO VOTES – and that is the end of him – UNFORTUNATELY THE TIME IS RUNNING OUT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK – AT THE VERY LEAST there is a record of people requesting that – so in the event one or two or all the things that have been rumored comes about maybe – just maybe – Hillary will be back into nomination again -

#366 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:02 pm

re#358 freddie
well good..lets plan away!
got any ideas you’d like to share with us?

#367 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 3:03 pm

#217 Rancho

Hi & thanks! I just saw your post…

It could & might happen. Can you imagine? What would “the media” do then? I’m laughing just thinking about it.

Sorry to hear…I wish you my best.

#368 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 3:03 pm

#347 Seattlegirl

:lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:

OMG, the tee and bumper sticker are GREAT.

I want to wear them so much. If I wore them to work in Berkeley I would not make it home alive. I would have to wear them under my jacket and be a flasher to the few closet Hillary supporters. I want them!

#369 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:03 pm

Ario,

YES! McCain knew about it, he still choose Sarah Palin as his VP.

#370 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 3:03 pm

yea i hope if they start any bs on Palin’s daughter being prego, it will come back on bo’s mom and her having him at a young age~!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr….. it happens in the best of homes, but one that Palin could have done without!

#371 MsMaVotes on 09.01.08 at 3:05 pm

CasperCat, I too volunteer for TNR. I also rescue strays and try and get them into shelters. The problem is that I can’t always find them good ones. I currently have 6 kittens I am fostering but the shelters are so full, I may have to keep them

I am a Business Manager at a bank. I pay $200 per month for medical insurance.

#372 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 3:05 pm

Oh, forgot to put my info. I am a 30 yr old female, MBA student. I have a Bachelors in finance and work in the energy biz in Houston. Luckily, I do have health insurance through work and I pay a portion pre tax and the company pays the rest.

I love Hillary and despise Nobama. My gut instincts became suspect of him during the primary debates then I saw how he treated Hillary and grew to despise him. His hateful supporters only further sealed the deal. I think he’s a fraud which explains why he changes positions according to the polls. I don’t trust him being in charge of this country and he is the least experienced candidate ever nominated. I miss Hillary.

#373 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 3:05 pm

I really think we have to reach the general public, many do not access the internet, they are not completely informed of Bo’s empty plans. But I bet they all read newspapers especially local ones. That’s an area we can target and it won’t cost anything other than a stamp

#374 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 3:06 pm

On a lighter note….

I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one, “The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo (How could I forget NJP)

#375 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 3:06 pm

#282 Great Video! I think Obambi’s campaign is going down the drain!! People are flocking to the Republicans. The only thing we have to worry about is voter fraud but I’m sure the Repubs know a lot about that. Good for Obama to get a dose of his own medicine.

#376 hillary2008 on 09.01.08 at 3:06 pm

It is a good thing that she is not BO daughter, he would have taken away her choice and walked her into the clinic.

#377 EWard on 09.01.08 at 3:07 pm

#348 freddiebrown

We forget not everyone is using the Internet for their news. I have a friend that is college educated and doesn’t own a computer or a cell phone. So, he gets his news from the cable news network or newspapers.

This is one group that needs to be educated about BO, his scorch earth campaign of smears, the buying off of super delegates, the caucus fraud, and the intimidation and threats by BO’s operatives.

#378 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:08 pm

Hello!
As far as what we do. I used to work in Customer Service. Quit working outside the home to raise my children. I am now back in school as a full time student to finish my social work degree.

#379 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:08 pm

This could enter into the debate about either unwanted or unplanned pregnancies, access to birth control (like having it covered on insurance), access to good information regarding sex education.

I mean now that Palin chose to put it out there, I think the issues need to be put out there too. How many people had pregnant peers in high school or were pregnant themselves and it was unplanned?

#380 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 3:09 pm

375# yea how about that! i am sure he would too!

#381 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:09 pm

Oh I forgot to say that I do have health insurance through my husband’s union.

#382 maxgrader on 09.01.08 at 3:09 pm

#334 Freddiebrown:

Good obseravtion. Thank you.

With all due respects to our great leader in Boston,Murphy, I’m sorry. Kennedy was drunk when that young life he drove into the water drowned to death. And the system let him get away with it. I have wished him nothing but the worst ever since. Had that been a person of a lesser station in life he would have been put in jail for what he did.

Never shall I forget. Never shall I forgive.

#383 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 3:10 pm

ummm 5 out of my 6!!!

#384 scathcart on 09.01.08 at 3:11 pm

Happy Labor-day everyone. My story is typical middle america. I have worked since 1965 when I graduated from H.S. I always worked as secretary or customer service which I enjoyed. Always had good insurance at that time. Married in 1967. My husband died in 1972 from complete kidney failure. Just beginning experiments on transplants at that time. He was sick for 4 of our years together. I remarried in late 1973. My husband is retired from TWA-American airlines. He has heart and diabetes problems but we still have his insurance until he is 65 in 3 years then he goes on medicare. I have been on disability for 8 years on medicare. We do not have a lot of money but manage to get by right now. Still have housepayment and other bills just like others. But today is our 35th wedding ann. and we have been happy. To change the subject #199 cardinalsfan and hillaryistheone. We have a PUMA Pac in St Louis if you would like to join we would love to have you both. You can get my e-mail address from Marylandpuma or Murphy. I give them permission.

#385 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 3:11 pm

Ann Althouse nails the sexism against Palin in this post:

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-daughter-bristol-is.html

From the post:

“Oh, that looks like a meme. Sarah Palin must stay home with her special needs baby. Sarah Palin must stay home with her about-to-be-married, pregnant daughter. Ladies: Put your career on hold until everything in you’re family stops happening. …. Would a man forgo his career to be there for a family member who is experiencing an important life transition?”

She goes on and points out that John Edwards continued to campaign even though his wife had cancer. (I am not trying to compare cancer to positive news of a birth of a child… I am just stating the obvious double standard).

#386 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:11 pm

eward..
if your friend gets his news from MSM cable hes not going to get fair and balanced news..it’s up to you to educate him..

#387 blondlady on 09.01.08 at 3:11 pm

#348 – Freddiebrown

One easy thing that we can do to shut Obama down is to boycott his support. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS all have favored him, blatantly. Don’t watch those stations, and if Fox News starts leaning more toward him, stop watching them too. Don’t watch Oprah, don’t buy the products she endorses or buy from her sponsors. Don’t buy magazines that have Obama or Oprah on the cover. Don’t contribute money to organizations that support him, including the NAACP. Stop subscriptions to Time Magazine and The New York Times. Stay away from anything that supports Obama in any way!

#388 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:12 pm

#369 SouthJersey Puma – my friend – so glad to see you here – we were looking for a person to send a letter like Utah Pumas #169 to their Secretary of State – and had no one from New Jersey – could you help with that one – if he does not get the votes in New Jersey along with Ohio, Penna, Florida – he will NOT win the election – I am keeping track for Ladyhawkke on who sent the letters and which State so it can be followed up by myself and others.
OK back to the lurking mode – when it starts to take 10, 12, 14 times to try and post a comment – I lose patience – and here we are this will be by 15th attempt – 16th now – lets go for an even score – so have a good Labor Day all – will be reading your comments though.

#389 webfoot on 09.01.08 at 3:12 pm

Answering Murphy’s questions: I am retired from the federal government. I held a variety of positions there and loved them all. I have health insurance which is a really good thing because my medical costs are astronomical due to a large number of medical conditions.

As does, mijabsnji, I volunteer with the Boy Scouts. And, I used to show dogs also.

#390 Ario on 09.01.08 at 3:12 pm

max

i agree 100% i cant stand kennedy….be careful tho…i got into a nasty knock down drag out on here over that issue!!!

#391 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 3:13 pm

I have a question:
We know the Clinton’s have copies of all the signed sheets from the caucus states (boxes of them), we can assume they know of the caucus fraud. Is there any way the Republican’s can use the fraud voting in their campaign ads? If not, what will they blast cupcake with?

#392 webfoot on 09.01.08 at 3:13 pm

#257 Rancho-My prayers go out to you and your husband.

#393 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 3:14 pm

#348 Freddie Brown First, my personal opinion is we need to back McCain/Palin even if we don’t agree with all of their issues. Obama would be far worse to have in office. No third party, no write-ins.
Second, read my post #224 above, I’ve been posting this for days. It’s worth a shot, I’m sending my letter out tomorrow even though FL has been done. Phil Berg has been receiving copies of letters sent out by people in various states. We need to get a letter out in each and every state. I feel this is very important.

#394 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:14 pm

The father of NObama was a BIGAMIST, he had a wife in Kenya and children and have the same with NObama’s mother.

#395 utahpuma on 09.01.08 at 3:15 pm

#364 gogandalf

I just tried to post and got kicked off. Anyway, if anyone is going to contact their state offices questioning Obama’s qualifications, please do it very soon. Our state election offices will be submitting ballots to the printers within the week now that the nominees are known.
I’m not sure what effect a ballot has with Obama’s name on it, if he is disqualified.

#396 webfoot on 09.01.08 at 3:16 pm

#173 pm-I called McCain’s campaign office after Gov. Palin’s selection was announced and left a congratulatory message on the voice mail service.

#397 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 3:16 pm

#387 Gogandalf
OK back to the lurking mode – when it starts to take 10, 12, 14 times to try and post a comment – I lose patience – and here we are this will be by 15th attempt
——–
Try deleting your internet history and see if that helps. I have found you can’t post at the same time someone else is posting. We are talkative PUMAs. I still love your sign on name the most. :roll:

#398 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 3:16 pm

Trish…YES.

Maybe you PUMAs can help me. My mother plays bridge with approx. 200 RICH mostly JEWISH mostly Democrat ladies. I am ASHAMED to say that the majority were PRO-BO from the beginning. My mother cries when she talks about this…

They bought the media bias about hillary, about how she ‘couldn’t win,’ etc., etc. At this point, they CANNOT SEE THE SEXISM in the DNC or the MSM and they do NOT BELIEVE that any voter fraud occured either in the caucus vote or the convention.

I work about 18 hours a day, and I do not have time to compile something but if anyone has anything I could hand out to these women INCLUDING a pro-puma promotion we would have 200 mostly WEALTHY potential PUMA members….

it has hurt my mother so she does not even like to go and bridge is her passion….

she still wears her hillary button :)

#399 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:16 pm

re# 386
YOU HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS!
I stopped watching CNN MSNBC and the other networks..
oprah and the naacp can go to hell with their black nationalist racism..
..the NY times and Time..they’re going bankrupt soon..good riddance!!
I watch Fox and get my info from the net

#400 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:17 pm

SCATHCART,
Happy Anniversary! I hope you and your husband have a nice day, try to stay out of the heat.
Hillaryistheone and cardinalsfan- did you see scathcarts post? please join us if you are in St. Louis.

#401 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 3:17 pm

293 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:53 pm They’re from MARYLAND? OMG!
*********
The live on Kent Island.

#402 Ario on 09.01.08 at 3:17 pm

how old was sugar plums mom when she had him?

#403 webfoot on 09.01.08 at 3:17 pm

#188 hillaryistheone-Shockingly, Good Morning America was supportive of Gov. Palin’s daughter this morning.

#404 EWard on 09.01.08 at 3:19 pm

Pumas

Let’s send a big thank you to John Coale. He is a Hillary supporter and fundraiser that just endorsed McCain. We need to counter the dark side’s response.

IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO REACH HIM, PLEASE EMAIL IT TO MARYLAND PUMA FOR SECURITY REASONS. Remember, the nasty emails that Murphy received.

JOHN, WE HAVE YOUR BACK AND WE ARE SENDING LOTS OF PUMA HUGS AND PRAYERS!

#405 john on 09.01.08 at 3:19 pm

Palin’s Daughter Pregnant at 17; Barack Obama used cocaine and alcohol at 17. …Palin’s husband had a DUI….. Barack Obama used cocaine and alcohol at 17 and Attended Rev Wright Hate Whitey Church. And HE is running for President! This Is Like Swatting Flies Too Damn Easy. Next Non Issue
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#406 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 3:19 pm

#210 Headclunker

If this has been posted already… then my apologies for the repeat information — I’m still reading through all the posts. But here’s a story about Palin’s pregnant daughter. Watch the video in the story link. I admire McCain’s response to the attempt of Dems to use this against him.

http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080901/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_daughter

Also — they were reporting on this a lot late last night on FOX. Clinton turns away from husband Bill’s kiss to kiss Obama instead. The FOX & Friends show (in Hillary’s defense) played it in slow motion and suggested that her head whips around too fast and that maybe someone called her name out which distracted her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-acCfEHmXs&NR=1

#407 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:19 pm

eward,
i believe he is Greta’s husband but I could be wrong.

#408 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 3:20 pm

#364 Gogandalf I agree, we must act faxt. I have asked Murphy and Maryland to make this a prowl but it hasn’t been done. I provided all the info thru e-mail. Since this wasn’t done, we can only hope everyone on the blog acts on this and get others to do so. I agree with Gogandalf, I’ve been saying we need to do it before the Republicans come out with their October surprise. I think we need a September surprise and Hillary could be back in it. I miss Hillary so much, her speeches, everything. I don’t want to vote McCain but I will to keep Precious out.

#409 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 3:20 pm

WE must get the truth to the people…BO camp is lost/drunk on kool aid but PEOPLE…seniors, democrats on the fence, kids disenfranchised with BO’s fisa vote and his selection of BIDEN.

NEXT, we must support McCain/Palin.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, we must work to prevent voter fraud. My gut feeling is that the money behind bo (rockefeller and kennedy to start with) is NOT going to lose; at this point they are going to have to cheat to win….this might mean videos, guards and at least one attorney at EVERY polling site across this country OR AT LEAST in the swing states….

#410 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 3:21 pm

Also… I’ve been reading through some of the comments and I would just like to point out that Obamabots also lurk here — so be careful posting personal information about yourselves that can be used by Obamabots to find out who you are or use it against you in some way. Just my 2¢ — since I’m very big on trying to think in a proactive way rather than reactive. Protect yourselves PUMA’s.

#411 pumacraig on 09.01.08 at 3:22 pm

At age 24 I developed Lupus SLE. I worked as long as I could as a House Parent at a place for abused kids. Then as the disease got worse I had to go on SSA Disability. I am now 50 years old and have a hard time doing my ADL. I am unable to drive due to the Lupus. I have Medicare and Medicaid but Dr’s do not want to take it because it pays very little. I love life and and I would love to work! SSA at $722.00 a month is not easy to live on. I am blessed because many do not have what I have as income or insurance. I fought for unions when I worked at Wal Mart in my small town when I was in High School. I am an old time Independent Democrat. But now I am a PUMA!

#412 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:22 pm

re#397 jennifer
do those jewish women understand who obama has kept company with???
this guy has consorted with people who would love nothing better than to see the extinction of white people and jews..
ask louis farrakhan what he’d like to do with jews..
ask rev wright and michelle what they’d love to do with white people..

#413 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 3:22 pm

I mean act FAST. IMMEDIATELY!! Do it tomorrow. When I called my SOS, they told me that the DNC certified whether Obama was a citizen. I don’t go along with that. Just to be on the safe side, I’m sending two letters, one to the AG and the other to the SOS, certified mail.

#414 webfoot on 09.01.08 at 3:23 pm

#390 Billiejo-I don’t know the answer to your question. Just posting so you’ll know your question was noticed.

#415 EWard on 09.01.08 at 3:24 pm

#397 Jennifer4Hillary

FirebellePuma wrote a flyer/letter about Hillary’s strengths and BO’s weaknesses. She would be a good person to contact through MarylandPuma.

Firebelle created a template of the letter. It is a well thought out expose of why BO should not be the President.

#416 Ario on 09.01.08 at 3:24 pm

pink

i agree…i live in dc which is like tel aviv these days and i cant believe how many jewish people are in love with sugar plum!

#417 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 3:25 pm

Pink–BELIEVE me I know…for 2 years I have been writing rabbis and jewish leaders across this country and have gotten NO WHERE…

thanks for the heads up E :)

#418 Ario on 09.01.08 at 3:25 pm

it would be like me falling in love with robert byrd!

#419 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:26 pm

I agree with Jenniforhillary and ladyhawkke. The safest and surest way to defeat BO is to elect McCain. Plain and simple. I realize everyone can’t bring themselves to do so but the question was asked and that is just my opinion.

#420 webfoot on 09.01.08 at 3:26 pm

#331-trish. Good point in noticing the differences in Hillary and BO and supporters

#421 normapapuma on 09.01.08 at 3:28 pm

Wow! The blog is hot, but no time to read all the posts right now. I have a comment/question about BO: Was his 17 year old mom married to Kenya’s Obama,Sr at the time of the One’s birth? It diffuses the current flap, but it also interests me because it’s part of the birth cert/citizen issue. Maybe he’s embarrased to produce his original birth cert? Just wondering..

#422 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:29 pm

LADYHAWKKE – BillyJoe (you got me out of lurking mode again LOL), Utah Puma and Freddie -

l. Step one is EVERY PUMA write a letter to their Sec of State – they will see that SOMEONE is watching them – if he has things in his closet that will come out either via the Reps or Pumas – then he will be disallowed prior to November to be on the ballot or votes cast for him will not be valid.

2. If this does not succeed – AND AS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL people – this is the last week we can do this – then we have to write letters to the newspapers as Trish suggested – my old team at HRC wrote nice letters and got bombed by the Obots everywhere – I am not sure if nice always works in the real world – I don’t mean to be nasty or vulgar or threating as his supporters are – but telling it like it is with bullet points like a ledger sheet – plus and minus -

3. If that still doesn’t work – we make a mass exodus to Canada and all live with Trish.

I have to say it is so glad to see a lot of the Pumas back from Denver – BillyJo – GoAndersen – DWP – Antifish and others that always just jumps into the water – write wonderful letters and we have an action item going on – Ladyhawkke – you always inspire me with your actions going on – as well as AsianforHillary, Anna7000, so many others that I am forgetting as I type – IF everyone took some of the action items that are mentioned here and ran with them – there would be no way that anyone could stop the momentum – we have done it with prowls and we know we did – why can’t we do it on our own – it takes a village.

Now don’t try to get me back out of lurking mode – going to delete my history files and try to send this one out ——-

#423 CasperCat on 09.01.08 at 3:29 pm

Geezzzz!!!! I must learn to read my post before posting…so, sorry for the typo’s!!!! #370 msmavotes, I am the Inland Empire Chapter for Alley Cat Allies…To help people in the community to continue what they have been doing…Just getting the Cats trapped and Neutered to control the population…I always remind people. The Cats did not cause this problem the People did…..And, yes shelters and rescues are at a full capacity…

#424 prowlland on 09.01.08 at 3:30 pm

347 Seattlegirl
Up Yours Obama Sticker (Bumper)
ahaha… how darn you put that advertisment on here JUST KIDDING
I love it !!!

#425 LizzyinCT on 09.01.08 at 3:30 pm

Happy Labor Day, everyone! It’s so interesting to read about one another’s lives. Thanks for sharing :) .

I’m a Licensed Massage Therapist. I love my work! I am very fortunate to be covered under my husband’s insurance policy.

In reaction to the media and blog attempts to bash Gov. Palin, I wrote this email and mailed it to the media email addresses I got from http://www.fair.org :

After watching the Democrat Party primary corruption, caucus fraud, the reprehensible actions of the DNC/RBC, and the rampant misogyny against Hillary Clinton that was unchallenged by so-called Democrat Party “leaders”, I have decided to vote for John McCain. His selection of Sarah Palin – a strong woman of high ethical character with experience, intelligence, qualifications, and proven track record as a reformer – was brilliant and I am THRILLED!!

I withdrew from the failed Democrat Party in the first week of June. I am now registered as “unaffiliated” in CT. I am 53 years old. I have voted for “democrats” my entire adult life. This November, I will cast my precious vote – enthusiastically – for McCain/Palin. Senator McCain is a man of honor, a true American patriot, with a history of working across party lines. Senator Obama is inexperienced, unqualified, and has had many HIGHLY questionable associations over the last 20 years.

I am not concerned about Roe v. Wade. In the 25 years since the decision, we have had seven presidents – five were Republicans. Still, the decision stands. The probability of an overturning of Roe v. Wade has been misrepresented by both parties in order to motivate their base electorate and keep them in line. Every vote I cast will be based on country first. We have an opportunity for true reform and that will only occur with a balance of parties – where elected officials demonstrate commitment to working across party lines. I do not vote based on single issues. Millions of Americans feel the way that I do. Hear us. Believe that we will be heard in November.

The Democrat Party bosses SELECTED an inferior candidate. The Obama spin machine is working fast and furiously to discredit Governor Palin – just as they did to Senator Clinton. Contrary to the Obama spin, millions of voters will remember all who have participated in the misogyny and election fraud – by boycotting media outlets and their sponsors AND with our votes in November.

I hope it was ok to post that. Even though I am now supporting McCain/Palin – anyone could tweak that letter to reflect their own plans. I just feel, so strongly, that the media needs to hear that former Hillary supporters are NOT falling in line with what the BO spinners are spreading across the media. We will NOT forget the misogyny directed at Hillary and it is unacceptable to level that treatment to anyone.

#426 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:30 pm

Deleting worked – and its BillyJo not BillyJoe – I really have to proof my posts if I don’t want to have to do it again.. LOL

#427 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 3:30 pm

http://home.comcast.net/~sharonday7/Presidents/AP0601.htm
Requirements to be Pres per Federal law

#428 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 3:31 pm

Some ideas for Action:

1.) Spend a buck or two on some pin we can all agree on (perhaps a leaping cat!) and wear it between now and election time. It will be a great conversation starter and when you meet another PUMA you can show your support.

2.) Call into talk radio show. Yes, talk radio is dominated by conservative voices but this will actually be a benefit. The radio host will love that they have an anti-Obama voice on the line and thus will get to your call right away. The PUMA in turn will be able to reach a whole new audience explaining their liberal beliefs (and perhaps have some converts!). A great way to get the name and cause out.

3.) Send e-mails of support to Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is going to feel a lot of pressure from the Obama elites to campaign hard for him. Dont let her be used as a pawn (I doubt that she would allow herself to be…). Show that she has a strong base!

Just some thoughts!

#429 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 3:31 pm

MURPHY or Maryland?

I would like to make an observation and maybe this could be a possible thought for those that have influence with the media (from group leaders perhaps).

I constantly see the BO talking point being used that “Palin is a heartbeat away from the Presidency.”

Does anyone remember Clinton getting mercilessly attacked for merely referencing RFK’s historical event that occurred in June? The historical reference was used against Clinton as she was accused of suggesting assassination.

Maybe it’s just me — but I think this Palin talking point sounds like a lot more ominous threat against McCain than the Clinton comment did against BO. Why is the press not reporting this as an inappropriate threat or that at the very least — inappropriate to give such credibility to the possible threat by feeding the concept to any nuts out there?

The press needs to ask if this statement is a threat aimed at McCain from the Obama camp. Can we make this happen? This would not only call Obama on his inappropriate behavior, but make voters aware of how inappropriate it is, and also serve to shut down this kind of talking point quickly. This needs to happen. Any ideas how to make it so?

#430 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 3:31 pm

Bo’s mother was an unwed teenager involved with a married man when she got pregnant with BO, so I doubt he wants to go there.

#431 maxgrader on 09.01.08 at 3:31 pm

Thanks for the caution Ario.

This time I think the Chappaquiddick tragedy caused by T. Kennedy is a relevent topic because of today’s illegitimate topic regarding Ms. Palin’s lovely daughter Bristol.

#432 EWard on 09.01.08 at 3:32 pm

Pink Puma

I agree, and I’m trying to educate and reason with my friend about the real BO.

#433 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 3:34 pm

#421 Gogandalf
Am busy writing my letters and getting ready to send. We are back from Denver and moving on to help the melting of cupcake.

#434 mijabsnji on 09.01.08 at 3:35 pm

#348 freddiebrown
I am stoping him by voting for John McCain,by the way I like his VP liked her even before he picked her.

#435 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:35 pm

RE#424
LIZZY
it only makes sense to support mccain palin..
I like this website very much and I am concerned that the people who run this site will try to discourage support for mccain palin by banning PUMAS who express enthusiastic support of mccain palin..

#436 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 3:35 pm

mzebest:

Great point.

I’ve seen many personal questions out here and people need to be cautious.

The Trolling Bots are here.

Be careful.

#437 Beca4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:36 pm

OMG! Jesus! My mother got pregnant when she was 17, there are 8 of us, what is wrong with having kids at 17 of age? This is a free country, that is not ilegal as far as I know. This Obamabots have nothing better to do..sore loosers…bashing kids and women, that is why I will never support BHO. Anyways, here how I have been protesting the unfairness against the most qualified person for the office (Hillary):

-Switched to Independent
-Joined McCain’s Campaing “Citizens For McCain” (Democrats & Independents)
-I am donating money to them, PUMA, and Hillary
-Blog against BHO anywhere I can
-I stopped watching Oprah
-I don’t by Time
-Email my congress women (Democrat) in Florida, any time I can (Thurman)
-Trying to convince anyone I can not to vote for him

#438 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 3:36 pm

#425 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:30 pm

Deleting worked – and its BillyJo not BillyJoe – I really have to proof my posts if I don’t want to have to do it again.. LOL
—————
You can call me Fred if you want, but it’s Billie Jo
:roll:

#439 henry on 09.01.08 at 3:37 pm

#430 Maxgrader
Chappaquidick brought up in response to the obats unearthing a dui arrest for Gov Palins husband when he was 22

#440 joanna0902 on 09.01.08 at 3:37 pm

428 mezbest – I agree. I think if there is anything like this or sexist remarks made, we should “BLAST” MSM with as many e mail protest as possible. We need the e mail addresses of the ones in high places

#441 mijabsnji on 09.01.08 at 3:37 pm

My husband said we ought to call bo miss pelosi :)

#442 lotts1948 on 09.01.08 at 3:37 pm

Hey Murphy:) Thanks for this, I have enjoyed reading about what the Pumas do for a living and getting a peek inside their lives. It makes all of ya’ll more real, though, of course I know you’re real.. anyway.

I have worked most of my life in clerical work. I worked for hospitals for most of that time, doing medical transcription. My whole family, my now ex-husband, myself and our 4 daughters moved to Arizona and lived in Phoenix for 8 years. He was/is a union electrician and worked on some power plant out there.. in Arizona I finished my college degree with a major in history, was planning to go into law, I had a paralegal certification and worked as a paralegal for 7-1/2 years in Arizona. Then we divorced and I moved back to Texas, and didn’t have the opportunities to work in paralegal anymore and went back to the hospitals as a medical transcription. Approximately 4 years ago, around the time 1 of my daughters died in a car accident, I went to work for a company that does medical transcription for lots of hospitals, 2 of my daughters work for this company too; we work out of our homes, though we are full-time employees. I have health insurance as long as I meet the qualifications, which include both hours worked as well as production met. I am, for the last 4 years and on, also raising my now 12-year-old grandson who is the only child of my daughter who died in the car accident, so I have the joy of dealing with boys after having 4 daughters… it’s different… but I enjoy it.

After my divorce, I had to raise my daughters alone as my ex decided child support was not for him.. anyway, that’s a long story and not necessary.

I live in Texas, work at home, for which I am grateful as it saves me lots on gas and clothes for working.. and although I do not do the actual transcription as much anymore, I mostly do Quality Assurance, I really enjoy my work because you are always learning new terms.. the medical field changes daily.

Proud to be a Puma, I have been a Democrat for my whole life as my background is from Union members, bricklayers and the like.

RANCHO: My prayers are with you; my brother just got diagnosed a few months ago with esophageal cancer and they are trying radiation therapy and chemo and maybe will do surgery if it responds. God bless you and your husband and family.

#443 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 3:38 pm

Again – I know that many here will support MC – no argument about that.

Beyond that, what can we do OUTSIDE of this blog, to people that DO NOT HAVE INTERNET, people on the FENCE, people intentionally CLUELESS – how do we reach out to them to NOT elect him.

We did not win HILLARY, we must LOSE Obama.
We are a little pebbles – thrown into still waters. Our ripples must spread… How do we do this ?

#444 john on 09.01.08 at 3:38 pm

Do we really want to go down this path of gutter politics? Barack Obama’s Mother was an unwed teenager pregnant by a married man.

#445 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 3:39 pm

jenniforhillary

can you e-mail me at prowlngrowl @ gmail . com

I have an idea how to help your Mom, but I prefer to discuss it off blog.

#446 lionness on 09.01.08 at 3:39 pm

I am a lawyer with over 15 years working for the government and in the private sector. I have always voted Democratic but I will not be voting for Obama.

I am wondering what the Senate is going to look like come January with VP Palin presiding over Senator Obama.

#447 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:40 pm

re#442 freddie
talk to all the people you know and educate them..theres no better way of communication than face to face

#448 mijabsnji on 09.01.08 at 3:40 pm

#443 john
your right, the rnc needs to counter attack.

#449 joanna0902 on 09.01.08 at 3:42 pm

mccain raised over 12M for his campaign over the weekend, via internet. Hannity said people are very excited about Palin!

#450 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 3:44 pm

lionness…

it’s gonna look GREAT…friggin great :)

#451 freddiebrown on 09.01.08 at 3:44 pm

Suggestions received (how we can help to stop this Obamamania) will be collected and presented to Murphy in bullet point form.

She needs to know what we want to do to prevent Obama from being elected.

As I said, if he looses, it will speak volumes for all the deceit and horror he and his campaign has done. We only need one win. Thereafter, all our greviences will be brought home at our leisure.

#452 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:44 pm

There’s a saying that goes; “”People who treat other people as less than human must not be surprised when the bread they have cast on the waters comes floating back to them, poisoned.”

NObama now is telling his supporters to back off on Bristol Palin and Sarah Palin, the problem this all started with Axelrod.

NObama forgot before giving his stamp of approval to spread this vicious attack against Sarah Palin and her family, his OWN mother was fooling around with a married man, end up getting pregnant and from that elicit affair produced him – BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR.!

#453 maxgrader on 09.01.08 at 3:45 pm

Thank you henry. That makes for a better comparison.

Obama was birthed at the age of 17? That would be a better comparison to Bristol having a baby at 17.

#454 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:45 pm

You ARE SO cute – BillieJo – I have been calling you wrong for centuries and you are STILL nice to me – will never ever do that again – THANK YOU – you always make me smile – Fred – LOL Reason I guess I just do it automatically is that I have a personal friend (female) and she signs her name as BillyJo -

#455 sweetpea on 09.01.08 at 3:46 pm

Hi
This is maybe the third posting here for me.
I am a 65 Year old retiree on Disability 2 years ago from a 20 year position as bookkeeper for a small company. I had to pay $800.00 a month for COBRA insurance for my husband and myself until August of this year.
Am now on Social Security and its a relief to not pay the $800.00 a month for insurance.
I had high hopes that Hillary would be able to get insurance passed as POTUS and give relief to all the people who have to pay ridiculous high prices for health insurance.
Have read this site quite a bit and support it 100%.
Also, the MSM and bloggers are out in force against Palin and her family.
This makes me determined not to let what happened to Hillary in the primary not happen again.
I was an Independent voter who switched to Democrat to vote for Hillary in the primary in Kentucky.
Still a Democrat registered voter but will not support or vote for Obama.
Voting for McCain/Palin as my protest vote against Obama and the DNC treatment of Hillary.

#456 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 3:46 pm

Rumor on Biden now. Gaffes about Israel security and Iran nuclear status. Not sure if true though but I wouldn’t put it past him. He spouts off at the mouth without thinking all the time.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/biden-camp-call.html

#457 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 3:46 pm

Freddie…

YOu got that right…we defeat BO…we can RECLAIM our party and come out as NEW DEMOCRATS with a PRO WOMAN PLANK and HILLARY as our leader…

Makes me shake just thinking about it….2012 isn’t that far away and My President will look FINE in the white house…

Hillary is MY PRESIDENT…until she can take office McCain and Palin will do just fine….

DONC better watch out because the PUMAS are here to stay and we are BITTER and we are RELIGIOUS and we are going to BEAT YOU DOWN and pray about it to boot…

GO PUMAS!!!

#458 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:46 pm

freddiebrown,
One thing that has personally worked for me. I have spoken face to face with people and explained things to them. I have gotten more than one defector from BO’s camp. I have one person that was so disgusted when they found out real facts that she took a bunch of my posters (that came from you) and hung them at her work for me. She works for a very large company. when people ask her questions about them she answers or calls me if she doesn’t know and she has had a few converts herself. Although we need to do more than just that it is helpful, perhaps more than we realize if we just keep speaking up and educating people.

#459 normapapuma on 09.01.08 at 3:47 pm

#445 Lioness-THANK YOU! What a beautiful vision-Palin presiding over BO and all the JUDAs!

#460 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:47 pm

if i was an rnc advisor I would widely publicise and show all those nasty hit pieces on sarah palin.. i think most of the american people would reject such foul tactics..
obama lets all his little surrogate demons do his dirty work for him while he feigns innocence..
i hope this palin smear will backfire on the obama campaign

#461 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 3:47 pm

Sweet news to me Sweetpea ;)

GO PUMA POWER!!

#462 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:48 pm

#445 Lionness – maybe you can give us advice as a lawyer working for the Government – what effect will we have by sending our letters to the Sec of State asking if BO is qualified to be put on each States ballot -

#463 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 3:48 pm

sweetpea

Many people feel just like you. And I am one of them.

#464 scathcart on 09.01.08 at 3:48 pm

Sheila7, Thank you. We will definitely stay away from the sun today. LOL Do you or pumacraig think it would do any good to write a letter to our sos or ag or anyone else in Mo?

#465 LandiPUMA on 09.01.08 at 3:49 pm

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I have seen PUMAs pop up in the news all over the place, both locally and nationally.

In our San Francisco Chronicle newspaper yesterday, PUMA was mentioned in the front-page *main* news-story (about McCain/Palin & the GOP Convention).

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/08/31/MN4J12LLS9.DTL

– Here’s an excerpt from the article:

…But Republican leaders and activists say the vice presidential announcement has already been a boon.

“Talk about change!” said an energized Hector Barajas, spokesman for the California Republican Party. “On the energy crisis – she gets it. She’s from Alaska. On what’s wrong with Washington, she gets it. You’ve got someone who said, ‘Bridge to Nowhere? No thanks.’ ”

Even better, he insisted, “now the women’s votes are in play.”

Barajas said within hours of the Palin news, he was contacted by Democratic PUMAS (“Party Unity My Ass”), who are upset that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton wasn’t their party’s nominee for president or vice president and may want to throw their backing to the GOP.

California GOP chair Ron Nehring – who heads a state delegation of 173 delegates and 170 alternates – said he’s been deluged with e-mails of support from the Republican activists who are fired up by Palin’s pick.

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#466 utahpuma on 09.01.08 at 3:49 pm

I agree with ladyhawke and gogandalf. ALL PUMAS need to write to their SOS and Attorney General requesting that Obama provide absolute proof that he is a natural born U.S. citizen as state laws require.

Letters should be signed and mailed certified very soon as most states are sending print orders in for their ballots within the next few days.

#467 Middle age female on 09.01.08 at 3:50 pm

Shame on MSNBC. They did not cover the opening of the RNC, but FOX and CNN did.

#468 emme on 09.01.08 at 3:50 pm

I am one of those struggling “middle-class” women, but am thankful each day that I still have a fulltime job, at least for now.

I currently earn a living as a senior operations consultant at a major U.S. financial institution – mostly in regulatory compliance, anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing. Rewarding on some days, but volitile, high-pressure environment on most, so don’t love it but it pays the bills and has gien me the opportunity to save a little in a 401K.

Before that, I was in non-profit arts management and a part-time instuctor at a local college, living paycheck to paycheck while paying off student loans.

I put myself through college then graduate school, but was on welfare and medicaid and food stamps for a little over a year when I was 19 (helped me to walk away from fom an abusive family). Although I’ve worked so hard, and have come so far, the feeling that I’m one paycheck (or fight with my husband) away from living in my car has never really gone away.

I do have great health insurance now through my husband’s employer, very costly though.

#469 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 3:51 pm

Conversation I just had with a delegate:

As we knew: there were 300 delegates who signed the petition for Hillary’s name to be in nomination. It was never the intention of the Obama campaign to have her name in nomination. These people did it along with all the prowls and work done from various factions of Hillary supporters. There was a TON of armtwisting in the name of unity. These delegates all wore pins with their number on it that corresponded to what number they were on the petition and that way they could all identify each other. This person said that even though there were only about 300, it seemed like there were a 1000.

This delegate said that Hillary was even better at her final speech for them than she was on Tuesday night at the DNC, (which in my humble opinion says something).

this person does NOT concur that the Orange Pants suit meant anything but does silently concur that Obama’s nominating speech should not have started as a lifelong republican and he should not have been wearing red for his acceptance (which may or may not say something about Bill wearing red for H’s speech).

there are some very very upset and angry people in this party over this campaign. There are DELEGATES (remember these are known people within their parties, likely who’ve been Democrats and active leaders for years) anyway there are Delegates who will not be working for Obama, who will not be donating to Obama, and who will NOT be voting for Obama. So, while these people may NOT appear on here and declare themselves a PUMA and a delegate, they will be doing it silently and I hope they have support around them because it is going to be EXTREMELY difficult for them.

This particular delegate is fine with my decision to not vote for Obama, let alone campaign, raise money or associate in any way with the Obama campaign. We talked about the campaign that “the nominee” ran on the ground. I told her about a lot of local flack that I have taken coupled with the fact that in NC and KY I could NOT differentiate the tactics of “the nominee’s” campaign from that of Bush’s campaign. This person concurred and complaints were raised (probably to deaf ears) about the tactics that were used in this campaign.

This person did see PUMA protesters. We did not talk too much about PUMA protesters to protect this person from lurking ears. I will say this person is not a PUMA in that this person is a well known leader locally and while this person is not a professional politician, politics and this person’s profession do collide. So what this person did in Denver for her state and congressional district is commendable on so so many levels. So, this person is walking as tight of a line on a local level as Hillary is on a national level. But this person is supportive of me and promises that they have been raising their concerns regarding this campaign and concerns like (blaming the Clintons) that continue to persist in this campaign.

anyway, I went to this event, wore my shirt that I got for donating 50 dollars to Hillary and lots of people were interested in it. I even had some people stop and read it and I’m not sure whether or not they got it but I told them what it was.

On a personal level, I feel somewhat vindicated and I feel like I have the silent support to be that person who shows up in pants suits, who wears hillary shirts, who wears clinton/gore shirts, who just is sort of always there reminding Democrats that things are NOT well and we do not accept the behavior of the DNC, the state party leaders, defecting delegates, etc. Of course I’m not going to get a resounding support in terms of just creating an all out NObama protest inside party events. But, its alright, I was very vocal today to some people about the fact that I’m not voting for “the nominee” and I had so many reasons why, they just didn’t have a response.

So, I’m very proud of this delegate. we all owe a debt of gratitude to the 300 and we know that Obama never intended for H to be recognized at this convention, which shows the continued level of disrespct that he has. We also know that there will be party leaders across the country who are going to vote NO on Obama in their own way and by their silence, they will be speaking louder than if they just created an all out protest on TV every day.

As we also know… HILLARY DID NOT TELL THE DELEGATES TO VOTE FOR OBAMA. She told them that they had all taken long journey’s to get there. She told them that if they felt committed to her, if they were obligated to her by state law, then to vote their conscious. SO EVERY DAMN CROSSOVER COMMITTED DELEGATE IS A SELL OUT. EVERY ONE OF THEM. When you see people, when they start on Hillary told her delegates to vote for obama, you stop that rumor in her tracks, because she did not.

While I will likely get some flack on here for continuing to go to Democratic events even though I’ve resigned all of my positions, it is my opinion that being in lions den, always being a reminder of the problems from this primary, always being an example to local and state politicians who start and run in campaigns about the lessons that HRCs campaign taught us about misogeny, lies, discounting and reverting to the lowest common denomenator against other democrats, is a good thing.

If I can think of anything else this delegate said, i’ll let you know…

#470 greenfun on 09.01.08 at 3:52 pm

I have been a working as a Ultrasonographer for the last 10 years. I work part time and do not receive medical benefits due to my part time status. I do have health insurance through my husband who works full time as a physician. We both feel our current health care system is broken, and that it is an embarrassment that our country does not provide universal health care. It is one of the things I loved so much about HRC. She has been ahead of the curve in trying to fix our health care system-and I believe as do all of my co-workers, that we must provide universal health care.

#471 sheila7 on 09.01.08 at 3:53 pm

SCATHCART,
I think we should write them. If you want to email me and we can get it together. I have to go for now, I have homework that i have to get done but I’ll check my mail later. Have a great day and tell hubby Happy Anniversary.
Oh by the way, my brother in law and I were on TV the whole time at the rally, sitting directly behind the stage. LOL

#472 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 3:54 pm

i get a big kick watching this whole “hillary supports obama” charade :lol:
I lay you odds both hill and bill hate obamas guts and are praying mccain palin kicks his ass in november so she can run in 2012

#473 pumasupporter on 09.01.08 at 3:55 pm

I have to let you guys know. I really respect what you all are doing. I am a moderate Republican and I have really admired all of you PUMA Democrats. And, as a staunch supporter of Governor Sarah Palin, I give you the utmost respect for being consistent. You would not allow the media to use sexist attacks against a Democrat, and you won’t let them use it against a Republican either. Some of you do not agree with Governor Palin’s policies but you show her respect and I honor all of you for that. All of you PUMA Democrats are respectful, honest, and humble and from someone on the other side of the isle, thank you. I grew up a Democrat and became a Republican when I turned 18 and I have always hated how both sides demeaned one another. But it is because of you that Republicans have a different opinion of some Democrats and because of the way that the GOP has been gracious to Hillary, I think that you PUMA Democrats have different opinions of some Republicans as well. Did you ever think that the mention of HILLARY CLINTON’s name at a Republican rally in Dayton Ohio would get cheers??? This really is historic and all of you should take a bow. You are the new Reagan Democrats, you are helping to bring the country together and you are incredible Americans. I respect each and every one of you. God bless you

#474 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 3:55 pm

SCATHCART – sorry for eavesdropping on your conversation with Sheila – but Missouri – is a very important state to have – I personally think that any letter that takes just a few minutes – use UtahPumas #169 Letter might help us obtain what we need to prevent him from being on your States ballot – go for it – if you succeed think what bragging rights you have with the rest of us Pumas here – we will all bow down and share our dinners from the den with you.

#475 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 3:57 pm

Laura Bush warns the Obamaniacs to stop the sexism:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=165103

#476 tillerylakelady on 09.01.08 at 3:58 pm

Remember Palin Hates corrupt Government.We can only hope she starts with,Obama,Dean,Pelosi,and Brazille.

#477 Kelligesq on 09.01.08 at 3:58 pm

I wanted to be a writer/journalist in college,family wanted me to be a lawyer; I took my first job in a small Import Export company where the owner was a non practicing lawyer but used his degree to write contracts, so I learned to write contracts. Became the manager of the business and after 12 years moved on to self-employment consulting in setting up start-up businesses and their systems. Then switched to working for a legal investigator’s company – I could tell some stories – some funny like my stand off with the doberman, some horrible – investigating cop who killed his girlfriend and himself in front of a 100 people with his city issued revolver after he was suspended and the city should have taken it back. The kicker was he had been drinking with 5 cops from 5 different municipalities before he did it, told them he was going to do it, and they did nothing to stop him. First time in my life cops ran from me when they saw my car coming :) I identified 6 municipalities for lawyers to sue. Did such a good job, the attorney offered me a job as inhouse investigator and paralegal. No insurance, no benefits. but a great education. Most of my cases were Civil rights cases in Federal Courts; I learned to write complaints and the pleadings, and research caselaw. Stayed for 10 years and quit when I caught him stealing from the escrow fund. I learned enough to take a couple of cases to court pro-se and win, Judges always tell me I should go back to lawschool and become a lawyer, but I dont think I could hack the memorizing and tests anymore. I used to have a contact in the FBI when I stumbled into a drug ring run by cops. They went to jail, the Chief of Police was forced to resign, and I had to call in everyday so that the agent knew I was still alive. I know what it is to be threatened, but what I know is you have to stand up to bullies. So my experience tends to make me think in legal terms and taking legal action.

Injustice has always made me angry enough to fight for what is right.

I really was not terribly involved politically until Bobby Kennedy ran, applied to work in his campaign, and the day I received the application from Mrs. Lincoln was the day he was shot. I wasn’t involved with politics again until they tried to impeach Bill Clinton and I organized a protest rally over the internet to meet in DC, we had a permit for Lafayette Park, media, speakers, and Bill came flying over low in his helicopter and waggled it at us – which was pretty exciting for us. I was approached by a woman who asked me to organize another rally, I agreed to, (this was before I became an investigator) was involved and on the day of the rally discovered she had lied about her name, who she was, was a Lyndon La Rouche organizer-quasi communist – I found out they were really the group A.N.S.W.E.R , you’ve probably heard of them or seen them on tv, and if you hear from them stay away. If they hear you are having a rally, they’ll get the permit and turn it into ThEIR really, or promise to pay for the stage , loud-speakers , other vendors – and don’t. Lesson learned.

I always do two things at once, :) kind of day job and night job, so I do some teaching in adult ed in high schools and college, had my own successful business on the side where I did the writing , advertising, art work; I also sometimes invent things (working on one now) and have a hobby that turned into a business, which I’d like to put up online. Wish I did coding, but it wouldn’t be my forte’, and when I return from a vacation trip intend to enroll in a course for webmastering and another for speaking French.

I’ve had to pay for my own insurance since the import-export job, and the last time I had insurance was 2003; when they doubled it to $435. a month. Just too much – I did have to go to the hospital for one day 3 years ago – actually 20 hours, Cost: $6000 with no insurance.

#478 NoObo on 09.01.08 at 3:58 pm

#321 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 2:31 pm

I totally agree. It is sickening. I hope they end up choking on their own words….

#479 tennaseepuma on 09.01.08 at 4:01 pm

Semi retired foster parent raised 3 children and helped raise 75 children. My husband works as a health safety specialist for a local manufacturing company.
We have health ins,but the premium goes up and the benifits go down every year.
Freddie, I would concentrate on the youth as well as the swing states that are going to be very important. Think of all those voting machines on college campuses, also the favorite internet sight for young people Myspace, Myyearbook, Match, Youtube………It was pretty shrewd of Bo to get those emails, I dont know any young people that don’t text a lot every day!
About Sarah Palin issue-It is a shame but her family became public enemy no one to BO when she accepted the job. We all know how ugly they can get.

Happy Labor Day to all.
Go puma Democrats.

#480 lotts1948 on 09.01.08 at 4:01 pm

#348-freddiebrown

EXCELLENT QUESTION

Action 1: I have sent off a certified letter to my Secretary of State here in Texas, questioning Nobama’s qualifications to be on the ballot here in Texas and have informed her that I will be following up on this.

Action 2: I think we need to bombard the media and write lots of letters to the editors, etc., as you said, positive letters with lots of good points (we have plenty to choose from) about why we cannot back Nobama as the candidate and why we want to support the MOST qualified candidate (even though we didn’t get to do that) for POTUS.

Action 3: Get research done on our representatives who did not vote for HRC, if possible, or at the very least pinpoint the ones who endorsed Nobama at the very same time or earlier that their states had had the popular vote go for HRC and see if we can join in supporting any candidates running against them.

Action 4: Research any candidates running for office that we can get behind and vote for who are more moderate and will be voting according with the Democratic Party we used to know’s platforms.

Action 5: Ads in newspapers from Puma Pac outlining the bullets of why we do not support Nobama.. ads about caucus fraud, ads about the media’s obvious favortism, anything like this to get the word out to more people who do not seem to have this knowledge.. people just like me, who did not know all this underlying stuff, but who had a “bad feeling” about Nobama from the beginning.. now do not know what else to do… let them know there are other alternatives to just “following the party line”…

Action 6: Posters out to areas where people can read them, colleges, other areas, laundrymats, all kinds of areas where they will let you put up posters, advertising PumaPac and letting them know there is a place to go.. nursing homes, senior residences, etc.

Action 7: Continue any and all possible media interviews to get out the word further.

#481 john on 09.01.08 at 4:02 pm

McCain raises $47 million in August
ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) – Republican presidential candidate John McCain has raised at least $47 million in August.It is his biggest haul of money so far and a sign that he is dispelling doubts about his campaign among donors.A McCain official says the campaign raised $10 million since McCain announced Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate on Friday. Palin has emerged as a popular vice presidential candidate among social conservatives who have held McCain under suspicion.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#482 utahpuma on 09.01.08 at 4:04 pm

If anyone writing letters to their SOS and Attorney Generals get the reply that the DNC already verified Obama’s citizenship–DON’T ACCEPT THAT!
First,as a U.S. citizen and a citizen of your state, you have a right to require that this be checked by your state officials.
Second, point out that the DNC is a private unregulated organization with absolutely no federal oversight. Their mission is to gain public office–whatever that takes.
Third, if all else fails, ask your state officials if they want to be held accountable when the true Obama is finally exposed.
Just my 4 cents worth.. :)

#483 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 4:05 pm

Sorry that I keep using Post #169 for the Letter to the Sec of State – some reason it moved – here is the letter that UtahPuma used – Sheila and Scathcart

-In Utah, the Lt. Governor is responsible for the elections. I imagine each state is a little different. I am sending my letter certified and also sending a copy certified to the state attorney general.
Here is my letter if anyone would like to use it as a template.

Lt. Governor Gary Herbert
Utah State Capitol
Suite 220
Salt Lake City, UT 84114

Dear Lt. Governor Herbert,

I am a Utah resident, a U.S. citizen, and a longtime registered voter. According to Utah state law, an individual seeking to be a candidate for a federal executive or legislative office must meet all qualifications of the office as listed: 35 years old; natural born citizen of the U.S.; and a resident of the U.S. for 14 years.

As such, I am respectfully requesting that the Democratic Presidential Nominee Senator Barrack Hussein Obama be required to provide absolute proof of his birth as a natural born citizen of the U.S. before he is named on a Utah state ballot for the office of President of the United States. So far Senator Obama has refused and/or failed to provide proof of his birth as a natural born U.S. citizen. A falsified birth certificate has circulated the Internet and has been proven by experts to be a forgery.

As a natural born citizen of the U.S. and a dedicated American patriot, I am adamant, for the security of our nation that we choose our elected officials as required in our federal and state constitutions and laws.

Please require that Senator Obama provide absolute proof that he is a natural born citizen of the U.S. before his name is placed on the Utah ballot for President of the United States. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Name
Address
City State Zip
email address

Certified Return Receipt Requested

Cc: Utah State Attorney General

#484 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:05 pm

the most effective forms of protest and demonstrating involve talking risks…
for sure using the internet is a safe and comfortable way of one registering their protest..
but for those who are more committed to fighting back against this DNC Obama travesty the best way would be to orqanize rallies and demonstrations no matter how small.. get out there with signs in front of the media TV Radio newspaper offices..
I know this from experience I’ve been arrested twice in the past and thrown in jail for a few days..
it’s not that bad.

#485 kat in your hat on 09.01.08 at 4:06 pm

Must Read:

“Breaking: Top Hillary Backer Defects to McCain”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/01/breaking-top-hillary-backer-defects-to-mccain/

#486 shadowbee on 09.01.08 at 4:06 pm

#288 TMendez on 09.01.08 at 1:50 pm
shadowbee: Why can’t people see through this Republican VP nominee as a joke and a smokescreen to hide John McCain’s poor record????
_____________________________________
To avoid any confusion, if you read my post again (272) you will see I did not say this. I said this is what the Dems are saying about the issue. Thanks

#487 scathcart on 09.01.08 at 4:07 pm

#474 Gogandalf, You have convinced me. I will go for it. I will start today. Thanks for #169 I am not very good at letters.

#488 tillerylakelady on 09.01.08 at 4:07 pm

#479Tennaseepuma,
We are foster parents also,Ain’t it great that we can be there to children who are in need of help?

#489 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:08 pm

kat..God Bless Greta and her husband John Coale..they have GUTS!

#490 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 4:08 pm

LOTTS 1948 – Great suggestions – and now I have you down for the Great State of Texas with the Sec of State -in your item #3 regarding those officials who did not vote for HRC or those that took money from Obama and up for re-election this year – Maryland Puma has 4 full emails from me for every State – I am sure that this will be given to those that ask her for it directly. I hope so – put a lot of work into that one.

#491 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:08 pm

#481 in response to the money that McCain has raised… Hillary can still raise money to pay vendor debt. We need to donate 5 or 10 bucks. It is beyond Clear that the Obama donors are NOT going to give to Hillary. (Many Hillary donors are not working for Obama). if we want Hillary to be a viable presidential candidate of the future, we must continue to donate to erase this debt. Unfortunately, little media attention has been paid to it, but a fundraising deadline for August just passed and I think her debt and income for the campaign has to be posted in her FEC campaign finance report.

#492 Patty on 09.01.08 at 4:09 pm

I was an avid Hillary supporter who believes in:
• Making healthcare affordable for every American
• The right to bear arms
• Defense of unpopular ideas and choices that yield progress
• Politicians who design, formulate and champion legislation for the greater good of all; not those who are mere signatories to legislation.
If you believe as I do, than join me in my support of John Mc Cain for President 2008!
There’s NO SHAME in supporting Mc Cain!

#493 Kempion on 09.01.08 at 4:09 pm

Labor Day sharing?

I’ll bite. Self-employed IT Guru and destroyer of dreams.

#494 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 4:10 pm

#473 pumasupporter

Thank you so much for that heart felt support. I would like to return the compliment and let you know that I used to be very closed minded at the thought of listening to the Republican talking points during election years — but one thing this particular election year has taught me was that I was wrong to think that way. Republican’s on the news have shown more compassion to doing the right thing than our own party leaders. I’ve come to learn a deep respect for the other side and how we all are basically striving for the same thing. We all at heart abhor corruption within our own party and strive to maintain the wonderful democracy our country was founded on. I will proudly vote for McCain this November in the absence of having Hillary as a choice. I truly believe that both Hillary and McCain are candidates that put country first. He has my vote and I pray he wins by a massive landslide against BO.

#495 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 4:10 pm

I am so happy to hear that Scathcart – please look at my above post of Utahpuma – the number #169 is no longer with that information – look just above this post – change the words to benefit your situation – will put you down under the fantastic State of Missouri.

#496 Kelligesq on 09.01.08 at 4:10 pm

What 1st and 4th Amendement Rights ?

” Police raid RNC protest sites in Twin Cities
Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:31 PM

These groups have been under watch for months by federal and state agencies from inside and outside.”

Police raid RNC protest sites in Twin Cities

By Abby Simons, Heron Marquez Estrada and Bill McAuliffe, Star Tribune

August 30, 2008

Ramsey County authorities conducted raids across Minneapolis and St. Paul Friday and Saturday as a pre-emptive strike against disruptive protests of the Republican National Convention.

Five people were arrested and more than 100 were handcuffed, questioned and released by scores of deputies and police officers, according to police and elected officials familiar with the raids.

In a statement Saturday morning, Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher said the St. Paul raid targeted the RNC Welcoming Committee, a group he described as “a criminal enterprise made up of 35 self-described anarchists…intent on committing criminal acts before and during the Republican National Convention.”

“These acts include tactics to blockade and disable delegate buses, breaching venue security and injuring police officers,” Fletcher said. Deputies seized a variety of items that they believed were tools of civil disobedience: a gas mask, bolt cutters, axes, slingshots, homemade “caltrops” for disabling buses, even buckets of urine.

But the raids drew immediate condemnation from activists and St. Paul City Councilman Dave Thune, whose district includes the former theater at 627 Smith Avenue South, which was rented by activists as a gathering space.

“This is not the way to start things off,” Thune said Saturday morning. “This is sending the wrong message. Regardless of how you feel about these people…they had a right to be there.”

On Saturday afternoon, law agents surrounded 951 Iglehart Av. in St. Paul where members of I-Witness Video, a New York-based group that monitors police conduct during protests, were staying. They were detained and handcuffed but eventually freed without charges.

At a news conference Saturday, Cheri Honkala of the Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign, one of the protest groups, described the Friday raid and an earlier one Thursday that evicted a demonstrators’ camp on Harriet Island as “terrorism” intended to divert attention from issues the protest groups are raising and cast the news as police versus protestors.

Thune was especially critical of Fletcher for taking action within St. Paul city limits.

“I’m really ticked off…the city is perfectly capable of taking care of things,” Thune said. “If they had found anything that could have been used to commit a crime they would have arrested somebody.”

Said Thune: “Unless they come up with anthrax or weapons of mass destruction, I think they came up short.”

Later Saturday, Fletcher described in a news release the items seized during the raids, which included a variety of “edged weapons”; glass bottles, rags and flammable liquids; “Old tires (for burning),” a gas mask and “Empty plastic buckest cut and made into shields.”

The RNC Welcoming Committee denied criminal intent and described the police actions as “violence” that is a sign of more extreme police measures to come.

Three people were arrested and detained for probable cause conspiracy to commit a riot following a raid at 3240 17th Ave. S. in Minneapolis.

Ten other people in the house were processed and released after about 90 minutes, said Bruce Nestor of the National Lawyers Guild.

Nestor said the warrant used to search the home was identical to two others for searches at homes at 3500 Harriet Av. S. and 2301 23rd Av. S. in Minneapolis. One man was arrested at the 23rd Avenue S. house, and a fifth arrested at an “undisclosed location,” according to the Ramsey sheriff’s office.

Nestor said the the warrant used to search the 17th Avenue house also matches the one used to raid the former theater in St. Paul that is the organizing site of the RNC Welcoming Committee.

Nestor said he has not seen documents that support a reason for searching any of the locations, but that the warrant, signed by a judge on Friday, seeks multiple items, including electronics and MP3 players, rags, jars, Molotov cocktails, communication between RNC Welcoming Committee members, urine and feces.

Those arrested could be held through the weekend, Nestor said. A judge will review their case within 48 hours. Nestor said the conspiracy to commit a riot charges are vague.

“This is a charge that police use for preventive detention,” he said. “It requires that no actual criminal act be committed and borders on criminalizing political advocacy.”

Nestor did not know whether the three were members of the RNC Welcoming Committee.

Meanwhile, the group decried the Friday night raid on their organizing site as unwarranted, as evidenced by the lack of arrests after at least 50 people were detained. The group decried law enforcement’s tactics, particularly because children and the elderly were present while the group was watching films and sharing food before the doors were broken down.

“The police may claim that the raid was executed according to protocol – however, the violence inherent in this action may only be a hint of the violence to be expected on Monday and beyond, and is only a hint at the violence perpetrated daily by the police,” the group’s statement read.

“(By) Looking for items found in any twin cities house like jars, paint, and rags, this attempt to portray us as criminals and destroy our credibility has already backfired as evidenced by the masses who have come to support us.” the RNC Welcoming Committee said in a statement late Friday.

An attorney for protesters said Ramsey County sheriff’s deputies and St. Paul police officers handcuffed at least 50 people and made them lie on the ground for an extended period. The raid happened Friday night around 9 p.m. at the former Smith Theater on St. Paul’s west side.

Thune estimates that about 100 people were in the theater and detained. He said deputies knocked down the door using a police battering ram and then deputies went in with guns drawn, forcing people to the ground.

The group says they are now accused of a fire code violation and the theater was boarded shut on orders of Fletcher. This last action also upset Thune, who said the sheriff had no authority to order city staff to keep people out of a building.

Thune said he would be working with city officials today to re-open the building. Demonstrators said later Saturday that the building was being re-opened.”

#497 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:12 pm

re#491
i donated 150 bucks during the primaires to hillary..i sure as hell will not give her a penny now because that money would more likely go to obama..
I am going to donate “my money” as ben stein used to say to the mccain palin campaign

#498 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 4:13 pm

SCATHCART – the letter to the Sec of State is now Post # 483

TilleryLakeLady – good to see you on this post right now – you generally do all these various action things – and I think I read somewhere that you did send a letter to your Sec of State questioning BO’s eligibility – what State if you did are you – Tennessee??

#499 normapapuma on 09.01.08 at 4:15 pm

#473 Thank you for your beautiful comment. My husband is a Republican and we often disagree, but we’re both for McCain/Palin this year. He went with me to a Hillary rally and was ready to vote for her, even though he always liked McCain, because he was so impressed with her intelligence. We are Americans first and will never vote just Party line.

#500 JackOkie on 09.01.08 at 4:16 pm

#48 Jadwiga: Come to Oklahoma. The economy is still humming along and a carpenter could find work in no time. Plus we’d love to have your pooches (I have two – my sister has four).

#43 Texas Tigress: Y’all come over too! The Democratic and Republican parities are pretty well evenly balanced here. We have a great young Democratic governor (although I’m a Republican, I voted for him for re-election). He would have made 100 times the candidate that Obama is. The Democrats here certainly stand up for what they believe in, but civility and mutual respect are the norm. You would recognize the Democratic party here – it’s what you used to see nationally.

#501 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 4:16 pm

#485 kat in your hat on 09.01.08 at 4:06 pm

Sounds like the Newsweek reporter understands the Nobama campaign tactics when she asked “do you have a bodyguard?”

#502 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 4:17 pm

#473Pumasupporter – thank you for a well written post -

#503 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:20 pm

re#496 kelli
i wouldnt put it past the obama nazis to infiltrate the protest group up there at the RNC and try to provoke the cops to beat their asses so the MSM cameras can scream..”look at the evil ole GOP who are beating peaceful protestors”

#504 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:20 pm

#491 pink puma no one is asking you to donate to Hillary if you don’t want to but please do your homework before spouting untruths. McCain/Fiengold does NOT allow money to be moved around like that.

If they could move money around like that, then Hillary would have taken the money that she had for the “general” election and written a check to obama and Obama would have written a check to Hillary for her debt.

It does not work that way. I’ve also had friends criticize me about donating because all the big whigs from Hollywood would just host one fundraiser and give it to her. Well it does not work that way either. The maximum amount of money that can be given to a candidate is 2,300 for primary and 2,300 for general election.

the general election money for Hillary has been moved into her Senatorial re-election fund, per individual request to each person who donated more than 2,300. However, NONE of that money can clear vendor debt.

Seriously, it has to come from donors, that’s it. Bill Clinton can only donate 4,600 and Chelsea can only donate 4,600.

I’m not a lawyer and i dn’t know mccain/feingold backwards and forwards but I have learned something.

So, the suspicions are not true. I do believe there is some deadline on how long she can collect for vendor debt. Her personal debt deadline has passed but as she has said, she didn’t expect to repay herself, it was an investment.

#505 LJSNAustin on 09.01.08 at 4:20 pm

jenniforhillary, have you seen this site:

http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/

#506 Kelligesq on 09.01.08 at 4:21 pm

I forgot to mention that I have been a member of the County DNC and asked to be co-captain of the precinct.

When they had a meeting just before the Convention, and there were about 300 people in the room I asked the
Pres of the County DNC, the Vice Chair of Dean’s DNC who was there to give a speech, and the Veep of our County DNC to ask the assembly to contribute to pay off Hillary’s debt.

They didn’t. DNC Vice Chair Lynn Bullwinkle (whatever) said her debt was paid off except what she owed herself and they weren’t going to contribute to paying off Mark Penn.

She gave a speech making fun of the people who were saying Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery – after which I went up to her and gave her info printed out from the internet, that it was a forgery and he has not proved he’s a natural born citizen.

I spoke with Hillary delegates who we had elected to vote for Hillary but who were now wearing Obama pins.
I asked if they were still going to vote for Hillary, a couple stayed quiet (meaning they didn;’t like what was going on – what took me aside and whispered they were going to have a parade for her) – and the one who personally had asked me to vote for her as a delegate to go to Denver said she would wait for instructions from the party.

I told the president of the county DNC I was resigning I wasn’t going to help with phone calls, signs, not one penny to the party, and would not vote for their candidate. He was laughing thinking I wasn’t serious – and was trying to mollify me.. when they called me up to come down to HQ- I told them I dont work for a corrupt party that cheats and is crooked and she could hear my anger.

They desperately need computer literate people. I was it.
Too Bad. tsk.

#507 tec1965 on 09.01.08 at 4:23 pm

does anyone know what happened with the restraining order to the dnc and obama that was supposed to be served on obama??

#508 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:23 pm

Money to Hillary is also NOT money to the DNC. Those are ALL separate accounts. It goes into her campaign fund with a treasurer overlooking. Hillary, herself doesn’t have access to that money. The campaign treasurer is the one.

#509 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 4:23 pm

Palin: Soulmate or “F**k Buddy”?

(I apologize for the language but it is in the article).

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2008/09/soulmate.html

Wow, Obama supports can’t go any lower. I guess all women are good for is doing THAT.

Once again. I apologize for the language but that article is making the rounds at Dailykos. I thought this blog should know.

#510 Hillgirl on 09.01.08 at 4:24 pm

#472 pupmasupporter-What a beautiful statement. Thank you. I agree that PUMA’s, although many are dedicated NEW democrats, are very open minded on certain issues and on hearing out the “other side”. I for one have learned so much as a part of this movement. Primarily, I have learned to not stereotype or reject ideas based solely on party or outdated notions. I believe that there are good people with good ideas in both parties. I also believe that I don’t have to completely agree with someone to respect them. So, I respect Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin, while I have no respect for Sen. Obama. Of course my primary hero is Senator Clinton. Anyway, welcome and thank you!

#511 utahpuma on 09.01.08 at 4:25 pm

#473 pumasupporter

Thank you for your kind and refreshing comments. I believe that all Pumas welcome those who are respectful and truly want what’s best for America.

#512 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 4:25 pm

Again — does anyone know what the story is behind the video that FOX was showing last night? The woman Fox & Friends reporter suggested that Clinton whips her head around at one instant as if her name was called? Any thoughts on the Bill Clinton miss kiss?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-acCfEHmXs&NR=1

#513 SARTOM on 09.01.08 at 4:26 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/28/AR2008082802852.html

Charles Kraut……..article on NNNNNobama. Must Read!

#514 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:26 pm

jewsagainstobama picked up a blog that I wrote. I’ll just say that its there or was there, but at this point I’m protecting my identity.

#515 shampoovta on 09.01.08 at 4:26 pm

#444 john wrote:

“Do we really want to go down this path of gutter politics? Barack Obama’s Mother was an unwed teenager pregnant by a married man.”

Now that is funny. Talk about can’t smell your own poo.

I am seeing a lot of stories of Pumas going this way and that.

Good!

Go do what ya got to do.

I am voting for the lion hart. America first!

#516 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:27 pm

Maybe that means Palin is a little too much Northern Exposure for America—after all, her father’s good friend Curt Menard happily showed me a picture of the governor as a high schooler in 1981, in a root cellar with family and friends, helping skin and cube and cure a whole moose. It’s enough to make you almost miss fake hunters like John Kerry and Mitt Romney.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837862,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

Bristol Palin pregnancy is not a secret in Wasilla, Alaska.

#517 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:27 pm

re#504
why doesn’t the obama campaign pay off hillarys debt?
after all they got her running a round all over the place touting the wonders and majesty of the messiah?
she supports obama..i dont support her..sorry i already gave her 150 bucks this year..

#518 mesofreee on 09.01.08 at 4:27 pm

Sorry if this has been posted before -

Major Clinton Donor Defects to McCain

Pay attention to his N.O.T. statements!

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/01/top-hillary-supporter-switches-to-mccain.aspx

#519 MJE4HRC on 09.01.08 at 4:28 pm

#18 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 9:19 am
Good morning Pumas !!

I just told Greta I was real.
————————

LOL! I can attest to that!

Signed,

A real fellow PUMA
Mary Jo
MJ

#520 emme on 09.01.08 at 4:31 pm

#348 freddiebrown – Personally, I’m continuing to reach out to Hillary supporters in my state to explain why it’s so important for them to place their country above party and vote Nobama in November.

#521 pamawo on 09.01.08 at 4:31 pm

#469 Dem4Hillary
thank you for that very informative post.
You will get no flack from me. I have decided the best way I can try to change the democratic party is to remain a democrat.
What happened during this primary election cycle is a travesty but there are still many good democrats that we can work with.
Now, this is likely to cause me some flack, but I get the sense from many posts that suddenly all the political moves made by the republicans are because they really care. Yes, they are making smart moves and the democrats were stupid but I am not convinced
of the goodness of their motives.
Just in case these comments cause any doubt, here it is again – I will not vote for Obama, ever.

#522 pumacraig on 09.01.08 at 4:32 pm

SCATHCART, I do not think so. Jay Nixion the AG is a DEM. he is running for Gov. Secratary of State is Carnahan a DEM. they both supported Barry not Hillary. I think every State will have to examine what they will have to do to keep there State out of Barrys hands. I really beleave in Missouri we can only vote for McCain even if folks have to hold their nose. St. Louis City and Kansas City Missouri are ripe with his voters. St. Louis County are gong to be mixed. The rual part of State and Missouri is mostly rural will go McCain. Anyone who votes third party or stays home or writes Hillarys name in could very easily give this State to Barry. But everyone must vote their own heart. I respect McCain as a man but I disagree with many of his policies. This vote for me is about dismanteling the Dem party so that we can rebuild it and also I feel a great need to protect my country and the generations to follow from Barry and the present ONC and others! I maybe wrong so please tell me what you all think.

#523 DancesWithPumas on 09.01.08 at 4:32 pm

Some of the sites I boycott:
Dailykos
NoQuarter
Most conservative blogs
All Republican blogs
the cretin and the sweaty palm creep

#524 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:33 pm

Pink Puma
“she supports obama..i dont support her..sorry i already gave her 150 bucks this year..”

You’re cool then, I just told you no one is forcing your hand, no one. don’t donate.

I think i covered about Obama. IT IS ILLEGAL for obama to write a check from his campaign fund to her, period. Illegal per campaign finance reform called McCain/Fiengold.

What Obama should be doing and should have done the MOMENT she suspended was to hold a meeting of top donors and basically set a deadline and say we will raise whatever the amount is to pay off her debt. it should have been a priority.

what was that missed kiss?? I don’t know?? while fox has been nice to Hillary, I just sort of watch them with a skeptical eye.. I don’t know, not saying it didn’t happen. It was just weird.

#525 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 4:33 pm

506 Kelligesq

I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you for standing up to them. I’m proud of you and all PUMA’s. I’m proud to be a part of this group.

#526 1 Lucky Lady on 09.01.08 at 4:34 pm

Freddiebrown:

We support McCain….Don’t see any other option if you want to stop BO.

I am, was, am Democrat or Reformed Democrat if that can happen. Support McCain if you truely want to block Obama vote. No other way at this point!

Definite Plan….To start…Clinton Dem’s sent an email asking us to volunteer to watch polls near election time. I will sign up or find groups in my area PA. BO et. al. will resort to cheating because the election is CLOSE.

I don’t know of any other sure way but McCain/Palin in November to assure winning. Any other options/plans…I am open to anything.

#527 Kelligesq on 09.01.08 at 4:35 pm

WHEN THEY ANNOUNCE HILLARY’S BROTHER WENT TO MC CAIN AND A MAJOR FINANCIAL SUPPORTER – ALL HILLLARY SUPPORTERS ARE BEING SENT A MESSAGE:

LIKE, “WE’RE STOPPING OBAMA BY GOING TO MC CAIN”

Hallelujah !
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
#485 kat in your hat on 09.01.08 at 4:06 pm Must Read:

“Breaking: Top Hillary Backer Defects to McCain”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/01/breaking-top-hillary-backer-defects-to-mccain/

#528 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:36 pm

re#469 dem
i dont see that here…support for mccain palin here is not uncritical blind support of the GOP.
on the contrary its more of a NOBAMA protest vote

#529 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:37 pm

re#527 KELLI
WOOOOOOOO THAT IS INCREDIBLY GOOD NEWS!! THANKS FOR THE GOOD NEWS :)

#530 emme on 09.01.08 at 4:37 pm

#526 1 Lucky Lady – I agree with you. The only way to keep o from winning in PA is to vote McCain/Palin. Where is PA are you? I’m in the ne.

#531 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 4:38 pm

#524 Dem4Hillary

The video I believe took place at Tubbs Jones funeral… and the thing that I’m noticing is it looks like Hillary had understandably been crying. I remember being very disoriented when my father died (at his funeral). I’m wondering if the weight of everything had hit her that day and I also worry about Obama slipping drugs into opponents food. I know that sounds like a radical conspiracy theory thing — but the thought went through my mind about the cause of Tubbs Jones situation too. Can’t help myself — I don’t trust him — and I certainly don’t think he’s above such a thing. Call me crazy.

#532 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:40 pm

#528 Pink Puma:
you don’t see what/where?

#533 lionness on 09.01.08 at 4:42 pm

#362 Gogandalf

I worked for a very small state so I really can’t say how the Sec. of States across the US will respond. I am not that optimistic given that these people are tied to the mainstream parties. They are not going to bounce Obama from the ballot at this point.

#534 safron on 09.01.08 at 4:43 pm

Rancho
My husband has been surviving for years even though his cancer has recurred. Both of you are in my prayers. Getting this diagnosis is overwhelming. Have courage. Many people win this battle. Doctors generally have a good idea of the situation. Take care.

#535 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:43 pm

mzebest:
It looks like tubbs jones funeral as well

Re: Obama being responsible, I don’t know about that one, but I’ll tell you what, there is NO ONE who can convince me that Bill Gwatney’s death was NOT a political assassination.

I wish there was more info.

Let me put it this way, if the chairman of the illionis dem party was killed, there would be investigation after investigation trying to link it to the Clintons.

#536 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 4:43 pm

john voight is dogging bozo on fox now~

#537 NJ1313 on 09.01.08 at 4:44 pm

Repost #35
I am a retired school librarian & computer instructor. In NJ you must have a teaching degree to be a school librarian. Loved teaching so much, that I substitute taught after retirement before granddaughter entered the scene. We have insurance.

#538 stoney42 on 09.01.08 at 4:44 pm

71 years old

Spent most of my life as a housewife.

3 grown daughters
5 grandchildren
2 greatgrans

Husband – Retired Ad Man – Owned to Ad agencies

I now take care of all the necessary duties, bills, home repairs, yard, etc.

Husband – Sometime writer – newspaper columns
Our daughter has an Outsider Art/Folk Art Gallery and he dabbles in that.

Insurance – Medicare – $480.00 monthly for supplementry health insurance.

#539 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 4:45 pm

#454 Gogandalf

You ARE SO cute – BillieJo – I have been calling you wrong for centuries and you are STILL nice to me
——-
You are my friend Gogandalf, and you can call me anything you want except Cupcake. :lol:

I have worked with a woman for 4 years and she still spells my name with a ‘y’, so I am somewhat used to it. I like to say, “I have boobs so remember them when you spell my name the feminine way with and ‘ie’ and no ‘e’ at the end of Jo.
Hehehe.

#540 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:45 pm

yeah i got lost on a major street trying to go to a friend’s house after my father died.

I wish, so much, I would have taken more time to talk to Tubbs Jones at the Dem womens event here. I just was very tired that weekend and I missed some of the stuff. Actually, I just wanted to go to social stuff. I think she mainly was a speaker. I just wanted to have a good time.

#541 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:45 pm

dem4..
i made a mistake.. i meant re#521 pawamo
sorrryyyyyy..

#542 ManAgainstObamasSexism on 09.01.08 at 4:46 pm

Obama did not have the guts to tell Clinton that she was VP (had to use assistant for the dirty work!) Check out the news story:

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-did-not-even-have-guts-or-decency.html

#543 Dem4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 4:47 pm

john voight is dogging bozo on fox now~

SouthJerseyPuma is just all over hte place. One person wonder for H.

#544 mlhath on 09.01.08 at 4:47 pm

Hey Murphy;

Not ready to say more, just wanted to say Hi.

M.

#545 dcinlasvegas on 09.01.08 at 4:48 pm

I think letters challenging BO on state ballots needs to be especially targeted in the swing states. All states are important but if his name could be pulled off the ballots of even one of the swing states it could be crucial. I am currently working on Nevada and here write-ins are not allowed. If we were successful in having BO’s name removed here, the best his supporters could do would be to vote none of the above.

#546 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:48 pm

re#536
does the bozo look like ratso rizzo talkin to joe buck?
:lol:

#547 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 4:49 pm

232 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 12:52 pm #195, bruce55555
Donna Brazile ” that we´re not needed and to stay home on elections day”
******************************

Wouldn’t she just love that, she would rather voters stay home then to come out and do a protest vote against Obama. Not going to happen Brazile and your going down also……..

#548 pumasupporter on 09.01.08 at 4:50 pm

Thank you for all of your responses to my post. I felt that I wanted to encourage you all because you get hammered in the media, with people calling you “racist” and “unhappy bi*ches” and all kinds of unflattering things when you all are just concerned citizens.

Barack Obama gets a lot of comparisons to John F. Kennedy. I study history and I have studied the path of the two parties and BHO is no JFK. If you look at JFK’s policies compared to BHO’s, JFK has more in common with John McCain! You all have to take your party back from the MoveOn.org types. They have infiltrated and taken over your party. As a Republican, we can still debate and disagree over the size of government and social issues but as Americans I really hope and pray that you all ban together and force the radical left out of your party. The defeat of Hillary Clinton was significant because Hillary was the candidate of Blue Dog Democrats. She was the pick of women and those Democrats who agree with the party on economic issues but not social issues. Barack Obama is a product of the radical left. He is the product of the MoveOn.org, Michael Moore, extreme left individuals, and if he wins the election, that wing of the party forever takes over the Democrats. Hillary will never be able to run again because she won’t be Liberal enough for the radical left. Have you ever heard of a term called “Classical Liberalism”? If you haven’t, look it up on Wikipedia. Classical Liberalism is what an original liberal was, what a liberal used to mean, and if you really look at it, the old definition of a “Classical Liberal” is the current definition of a liberal leaning “Rockefeller Republican” like Rudy Giuliani. Your party has been totally knocked off base by the radical left and I know that you can take your party back! We don’t have to agree on everything, but the one thing that we do agree on is that MoveOn.org can NEVER be the mainstream of the Democratic Party and Barack Hussein Obama is their candidate.

#549 iammykittysmom on 09.01.08 at 4:50 pm

#485 Kat in your hat –

It’s Greta’s husband…. Greta van Sustern from Fox that defected to McCain/Palin.

Oh My Goodness… I’m so thrilled…

Kat in your hat – please keep posting the link… I couldn’t believe it… This is awesome… PUMA’s Greta agrees with our cause…. NObama…

#550 DancesWithPumas on 09.01.08 at 4:51 pm

#428
I beleive we’ve been doing all of those, and other, suggestions for months now.

#551 brother2040 on 09.01.08 at 4:51 pm

Pink Puma – I think you should think twice before you refer to Obama’s people as Nazi’s. You are demeaning what the Nazi ideology stood for.

My family is Jewish. The Nazis murdered half of our family. Only those who came to America survived. The Nazis also slaughtered Gypsie, homosexuals, communists, mentally and physically handicapped, etc.

Please don’t throw around that term like it means ‘not nice people.’ You may not like Obama’s people, but they are not Nazis.

#552 scathcart on 09.01.08 at 4:51 pm

I am currently working on Missouri letter. I will get together with Puma Pac in Missouri to complete.

#553 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:54 pm

re#551 bro
write the seinfeld show and tell them to remove ” the soup nazi” episode..ok.. and by the way.. I am also Jewish

#554 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 4:54 pm

#517 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:27 pm

re#504
why doesn’t the obama campaign pay off hillarys debt?
after all they got her running a round all over the place touting the wonders and majesty of the messiah?
she supports obama..i dont support her..sorry i already gave her 150 bucks this year..
—————-
Be careful on this site saying anything negative about Hillary. We love her and our claws will come out.

#555 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 4:56 pm

#350 BillieJo

Oblahblah
Obarky

#556 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:56 pm

billie jo.. IMHO opinion its foolish and infantile to fall in love with any politician

#557 brother2040 on 09.01.08 at 4:58 pm

Pink Puma – Let me say it again, Obama’s people are not Nazis.

FYI – How can I write to the Seinfeld TV show? Its been off the air for years. (And there bad taste doesn’t justify yours.)

#558 purrrNona on 09.01.08 at 4:58 pm

Reading about my fellow pumas’ lives is heartwarming. As for me, I was fortunate to be able to be a volunteer in my children’s schools and also became a passionate child activist driving 100 miles every day of my state’s legislative sessions for more than twenty years working to secure child protection laws in a state where its children were minimally protected by animal abuse laws.

Although trained to be a teacher, I turned to a career in real estate in order to support my children’s paths toward obtaining advance degrees. I continue to be a Realtor despite the current market conditions.

The commitment and passion demonstrated by Murphy, MarylandPuma, Mama and so many of make me very proud to be a Puma.

#559 Violet Hill on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm

In Greta’s blog, she’s asking if PUMAs are for real
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/30/puma/#comment-1727941

This is what I wrote:

“I am one of the 18 million Hillary supporters who together with other PUMAS and Governor Palin is ready to finally crack the highest of glass ceilings. I have always been a Democrat but after watching the Democratic Party corruption during the primaries I became an Independent who will vote for McCain-Palin.

The Obama camp keeps trying to scare women with Roe Vs Wade and abortion rights so we don’t vote for the Republican ticket. But why should we trust the Democratic Party with women’s rights when they did not even stand up for Hillary Clinton or for women?”
………

I will add here that I do not need to agree 100% with a candidate to vote for her/him. Even though I am not a Republican, I like McCain and Palin and I think they are the most qualified candidates right now to lead the country.

A PUMA for Palin!!!

#560 antifish on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm

Just finished researching the GA Code, writing my letter to the GA SoS with cc to the AG challenging Obama’s qualification for the presidency. Will take them to the post office first thing in the morning to send them out certified.

Special thanks to Ladyhawkke, goandersen and jbjd for the inspiration and sample letters. Let’s all hope this works.

#561 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm

Thanks to our hero Go:

I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one,

“The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo
Obahblah
Obarky

Hi Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#562 Headclunker on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm

WHERE’S THE MONEY?

http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/srssea.shtml

is the best reference if you want to know where your donations are going. You can actually look yourself up. I found all my donations to Clinton’s Presidential Fund in her Presidential fund. I could not find the T-shirt contest money, but that was run by Chelsea.

Clinton has the Presidential Fund, Senatorial Fund, Hill Pac, Friends of Hillary. She is also part of the Whitehouse Victory fund that is joint with the DNC and BO. There were no transfers into the Whitehouse fund during the month of July. There was a big one out. My guess is that it went to the Convention Committee fund, but I do not know because they file quarterly. So does Friends of Hillary. Eventually, everything will be reported. You should be able to see where your donation went.

#563 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 5:00 pm

242 Maryland PUMA on 09.01.08 at 1:02 pm #238 ClearlyClinton

Would it surprise you to know that PUMA PAC’s membership is about 45% male and 55% female?
****************************

Yes, Maryland Puma, it did surprise me to know that there are so many handsome, intelligent, strong and intuitive MALES PUMAS, but what are female pumas without our mountain lions…

As Barbara Streisand would say, “Hello, gorgeous!”

#564 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:03 pm

#556 pink puma on 09.01.08 at 4:56 pm

billie jo.. IMHO opinion its foolish and infantile to fall in love with any politician

——————————
Strike two with me – Pink!

I am neither foolish nor infantile and loving someone that inspires you is not falling in love.
GROWL!

#565 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 5:04 pm

#516 Asian4Hillary – I made the ultimate sin of turning on TV to get news on the Hurricane and CNN was on it with Wolf Blitzer and Dana Bash – she was at the Convention – Alaska section – and was making the comment that even the people in Alaska did not know about this event of pregnancy -

I would say that there are a lot of smart people on here from what I have read today – somehow someway we have to shut up the media like CNN MSNBC and others – they are the ones that are stirring up the Obama supporters and the average public – we have come up with prowls, we have threatened to boycott their sponsors products (I have done all the above) and yet have still not succeeded in doing our mission to them – their ratings go down – but what the hey – they are getting millions for ads – there has to be a way to get to them – this is the United States of America – not Hanoi Hanna – think everyone – what else can we do – Blitzer, Cafferty, John King, Dana Bash, Roland Martin, Campbell Brown – ALL NEED TO GO.
Make Lou Dobbs in charge LOL See what happens when I just look at less than two minutes before turning off the TV set – I know there are millions others like me .

#566 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 5:05 pm

561 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm
Thanks to our hero Go:
I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one,
“The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo
Obahblah
Obarky
Hi Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

****************************
BillieJo, You forgot his new tag team name
Obama Bi( n la) den

#567 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 5:05 pm

I’m tired of dating men & then they fess up later & tell me they’re Republican, if there are that many men PUMA’s out there I want some phone numbers, lol…

#568 Mary Gallegos on 09.01.08 at 5:05 pm

Hello PUMAs – I just left Greta an email. In response to Murphy’s email – I am a retired Engineering Director from a large defense firm, 35 years. I have a BS in Math/Computer science from UCLA and a MS in Computer Science from Loyola Marymount. I joined the pumas in June, just after Murphy set it up… OH yea, we are real!!!

#569 LotusBoy on 09.01.08 at 5:06 pm

I am now in the Show Me state and getting back to all the comments posted.

#570 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 5:07 pm

hi go,
I like the name “ohblahblah,” pretty good.

#571 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 5:07 pm

#535 Dem4Hillary

I totally agree with the Gwatney murder being Obama motivated. Also, I’m not an expert on such things and maybe I’ve seen too many murder mystery movies — but I keep wondering if there is a drug that could cause hemorrhaging to make Tubbs Jones look like an accident. She was coming home from a social event where a lot of people had access to her and could have slipped something into her food or drink. As I said, my apologies for being such an alarmest — but I just don’t trust the man. And if Larry Sinclair is telling the truth — then we know Obama managed to have a choir person at trinity killed and without any ties to himself from the media.

#572 john on 09.01.08 at 5:08 pm

Notice how MSM was totally silent about Edwards affair and attack Plain family only because Palin is a women. What vile rats they are. Totally sick of the DemocRATS party

#573 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:09 pm

BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm
Thanks to our hero Go:

I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one,

“The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo
Obahblah
Obarky
Mr. Just Words
Obiewannacannoli (I think that was it)

Hi Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Jo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#574 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:09 pm

#568 hillstheone

I’m tired of dating men & then they fess up later & tell me they’re Republican, if there are that many men PUMA’s out there I want some phone numbers, lol…

——————
LOL, phone numbers before or after they vote for MickyC?
I would like a male PUMA that doesn’t end up being an A-hole after 18 years. :roll:

#575 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:10 pm

Go get em BillieJo!! :roll:

#576 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:10 pm

#574 goandersen
:lol: with clapping hands.

#577 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 5:11 pm

mr estravaganza´s narcolepic fallowers
better keep their mouth shut
because his mother was pregnant
at the same age as this girl
think otherwise……..
the headache she would have save us……

#578 antifish on 09.01.08 at 5:11 pm

#573 john,

Let them keep at it. I think they are going to create a huge backlash by going down this road. What they did to Hillary was enough!

#579 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:11 pm

Hey Cynthia!

That one is my fav. :D

#580 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 5:12 pm

#557 brother2040 on 09.01.08 at 4:58 pm

Please do not come here and attack other PUMAs. If you have decided to become an Obot then please leave and go to Daily Kos or another Nobama website. Thanks.

#581 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:12 pm

ANTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#582 greytdays on 09.01.08 at 5:12 pm

Happy Labor Day to all PUMAS. After leaving the banking industry after many long years I am happily pursuing the things I love the most. 9 yrs ago I got into adopting Greyhounds, retired racers. They are the gentlest souls on the planet. All of my resources are directed to them, making it better for the dogs with no voice and no choice. I am an artist who has two online stores and plans on opening a third. This is a blessed time in my life, I rescued the dogs, but really, they rescued me. Health insurance? I’m still working on it. Hopefully soon.
I will include everyone in my evening prayers and of course extra for those affected by Gustav.
Blessings

#583 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.01.08 at 5:13 pm

This cat fighting and scratching the DNC is doing to Palin’s family is beyond despicable! They sure cast a lot of heavy stones considering the glass house they have been trying to hold together themselves!

Our first daughter had her first child out of wedlock, in spite of “knowing better”, as did millions of other women in America. She has grown into a beautiful mature and responsible mother and I’m VERY proud of her. The BO camp had better think twice before they saddle up this pony, it’s liable to give them a rough ride with all the women voters that have lived through this story in their own lives. Leave the girl alone….pro-CHOICE means (for better or worse), it was HER CHOICE to make and she made it.

You know they are running scared if they can’t find anything better to do than attack a pregnant 17 year old girl!

As for those who think this will alienate the social conservatives — quite the opposite is true. I’ve delivered lots of babies for pro-life families and their basic premise is to be understanding and helpful to those who find themselves in an unexpected pregnancy. If anything, this will cement their support of the Palins.

#584 OnlyHill on 09.01.08 at 5:14 pm

#146 Blue Jay

Well said–you rock!
We are kindred spirits on this:-).

(((((Arctic Refuge)))))

#585 lilibet on 09.01.08 at 5:14 pm

Billie Jo: The anointed
The chosen one
The Prince-in-Waiting

#586 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 5:14 pm

#516 Asian4Hillary

I think Palin is very canadian like in her way of life, which to me is a good thing :)

I’ve been following her political life every since she became Governor. While she’s not Hillary, I still think she’s a wise choice. McCain has managed to squeeze the throats of the Dems who attack her. Those who do attack her will be watched more carefully now, they got away with it when they attacked Hillary, but they won’t a second time. The repubs owe nothing to the dems, unlike Hillary they can fight back and I’m sure Bo and Mo and Joe (three stooges) do not want to open that can of worms.

#587 antifish on 09.01.08 at 5:14 pm

((((((((((((((GO!!!!!)))))))))))))

#588 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.01.08 at 5:15 pm

#572 mzebest

wouldn’t surprise me at all.

#589 Kelligesq on 09.01.08 at 5:15 pm

BROTHER 2040

As a lansman, I will say to you that Obama’s followers and his methods and his speech in the big stadium can
certainly be compared to the beginning of the nazis.

You seem to be new here, and I dont know if you have been exposed to the name callling by the obamanuts, their blind devotion as if mesmerized which is why they are referred to as the Kool=aid drinkers even by the media, (ref to Jim Jones cult which all committed suicide on his orders)the charismatic speeches, the strong arm tactics that everyone must fall in line, the verbal and some physical assaults threats on those who support other than Obama, the organized assaults on media if trying to expose him….smears against those who dont support him, dead rabbits tacked to people’s doors who write against him,death threats, – I have often thought when is Kristalnacht coming. These are comparitive to a cross between the Nazi youth movement and the brownshirts – and if he gets to make the rules and laws in this country , G_d only knows how much worst it can be.

these are frightening activities and yes, they can be compared to the beginning of the nazis. Read, go to DU, learn before you take offense at a valid accusation.

#590 dcinlasvegas on 09.01.08 at 5:16 pm

BillieJo — also the Obamessiah and Obamination.

#591 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:17 pm

I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one,

“The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo
Obahblah
Obarky
Mr. Just Words
Obiewannacannoli
Zero
The anointed
The chosen one
The Prince-in-Waiting

#592 antifish on 09.01.08 at 5:17 pm

#581 Sisterluck,

I can’t believe brother2040 is still hanging out here. I asked him rather politely to return to his mothership yesterday. Guess we need to get the hose out. :D

#593 Headclunker on 09.01.08 at 5:19 pm

#572 mzebest

I agree with the improbability that Tubbs and Gwatney were random occurances. There are chemicals that can induce aneurisma. There is quite a bit about it regarding animals on the internet. I’m sure there are less discussed human versions.

#594 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 5:19 pm

#566 Gogandalf
we should get organized
and start boycotting the media and sponsors
that is a very bright idea
they are so sick bias

#595 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:19 pm

I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one,

“The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo
Obahblah
Obarky
Mr. Just Words
Obiewannacannoli
Zero
The anointed
The chosen one
The Prince-in-Waiting
Obamessiah
Obamination

#596 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:19 pm

#586 ((((((((((lilibet)))))))))))

#597 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 5:20 pm

#568 hillstheone

you cracked me up… they fess up that they’re republican, i thought you were going to say married. lol i’m still laughing

#598 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 5:20 pm

bozo to give his reaction to Palin daughter’s news on fox in a second!! I cant wait to hear his arrogant statement!!!

#599 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:20 pm

((((((Anti))))))))))

#600 antifish on 09.01.08 at 5:21 pm

Hey BillieJo,

Don’t forget my favorite (cause it sounds so southern), Botard!

#601 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:21 pm

Okay, I am going to be good now and stop posting the list for awhile since we are at #597+ post and soon we will not be able to post.
It’s labor day and I am playing.

#602 lilibet on 09.01.08 at 5:21 pm

antifish: Tell Mama Puma, she will take care of it. She prefers if it is done that way, not to engage the offenders directly.

#603 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 5:21 pm

#568 hillstheone

LOL… I want some of those numbers too. :-D

#604 jenniforhillary on 09.01.08 at 5:22 pm

O Brother…

SOB and his team are WORSE THAN NAZIS because they are using his techniques, fueled by the same hate, in 2008.

I am jewish and my great great grandparents died under hitler so don’t come in here preaching Nation of Islam and Misogyny as Democratic tenets of this country.

I will call him Hitler to his face and his followers Nazis to theirs…and I will NEVER stand down and NEVER give up.

#605 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:23 pm

#601 antifish
Will add Botard to the list and post when we have more. So many wonderful names for the empty suit.

#606 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 5:23 pm

Interesting reading what everybody does for a living, everything from social workers to business owners to full time college students. I majored in forestry & worked in forestry most all my adult life. Mostly in traditional forestry & recently in the arborist side of things. I’m lucky I love my job & yes we have insurance. I someday hope to travel abroad and practice my trade or do volunteer work with it.

Also raising 2 teenagers, a garden & some chickens, also raise the volume on the stereo when Coldplay or KT Tunstall comes on lol, and I raise hell whenever PUMA asks me to! In my “spare time” I practice REIKI and go on dates w/guys who tell me later they’re really Republican.

Well not all of them, there really are some nice guys out there and I’m not one to give up easily. As s/be obvious by my going to Denver in hopes of witnessing a Rollcall rebellion! I guess that is the optimist in me, call me crazy my intuition still says anything could happen w/the election or my love life.

PUMA’s need to stay optimistic…

#607 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 5:23 pm

Botard! lololol :lol:

#608 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:24 pm

The 18 million cracks are not JUST women. Obama is going to have an equally if not tougher time getting the votes of the MEN who voted for Hillary.

Like me.

I keep hearing over and over in the media that “eventually most democratic women who voted for Hillary will eventually come over to Obama.”

Maybe. Maybe not.

But hardly anyone is talking about the men.

As USA News & World report put it…

“In politics, the “gender gap” is commonly used to refer to women voting Democratic. The flip side of this is that men—white men, to be more specific—vote Republican. But this wasn’t always the case. When Franklin D. Roosevelt was president, blue-collar white men were a part of his New Deal coalition. But in the 1960s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement and targeted black and female voters. At the same time, explains David Paul Kuhn, author of The Neglected Voter: White Men and the Democratic Dilemma, white men played the role of the scapegoat and were deemed racist and sexist. “The Democratic Party saw white men for their worst vice and none of their virtue,” Kuhn says. By 1980, white men were easily being wooed by Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, and many Democratic men transformed into the “Reagan Democrats.”

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/03/03/clinton-obama-make-push-for-the-neglected-white-male-voter.html

And we don’t much care for being called Racist just because we wanted Hillary for President. Many, like me, see her as a strong, tough minded, centrist. And a Clinton Presidency is an exciting opportunity to return this country to the peace and prosperity we witnessed in the 90′s.

Our vote is going to make a huge difference. Combine this with all the smart women out there (many of whom are on this board) who feel that sexism played a huge role in this campaign and, well…there Ya go.

Game over Obama.

Just watch.

#609 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 5:26 pm

Hi Trish,
Well if you’re single & looking & in Canada, I need to tell you on our trip this summer my daughters said “Mom, the guys in Canada are hot!”, lol… Queen in NY said she was going to look for a Canadian mountie for me but he hasn’t turned up yet.

#610 TerryDo on 09.01.08 at 5:26 pm

What could Obama possibly say, after all his mother was a teenage pregnant young lady, and she kept baby Obama/Barry

SH*T HAPPENS!

#611 NYCgirl on 09.01.08 at 5:29 pm

#469 Dem4Hillary

Thanks for this account of your conversation with the delegate. I’ll bet that’s not the only delegate who was disillusioned by the whole process and will silently support someone other than the nominee-select.

You mentioned that you have so many reasons not to vote for Obama — I would like to put together some talking points specifically for people like me who are NOT — I SAID NOT — supporting McCain.

I am an independent progressive voter, and I would like to advise other progressives on the reasons to vote for a third party candidate. My personal choice is Ralph Nader. I can pitch Nader of course, but I would like to know what you say to progressive Democrats regarding why they should vote for someone other than Obama. I would also like to simplify the argument — I think delegate counts, caucus fraud, DNC rules, and so on, is a little esoteric for voters who do not follow the process as closely as we PUMAs do.

Thanks, Dem4Hillary.

NYCgirl

#612 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 5:31 pm

590 Kelligesq

Amen. I was thinking the same thing… but ignoring the posts from this person.

#594 Headclunker and #589 notfollowinthepiedpiper

Thanks for the support on that theory.

Wish there was something I could do to have motivate investigations on some level. I don’t think there’s any such thing as that many coincidences when so many Clinton supporters are suffering pressure, threat of lost jobs, and even threat of their lives.

I was thinking that it would make sense that BO would resort to murder with Gwatney and possibly Tubbs Jones because unlike other delegates — their support for Clinton was unwaveably strong and they were in higher profile positions. Especially Tubbs Jones — if BO were responsible for planning to take her out — it would definitely have to look like an accident or natural cause. She’s way too highly known that anything less and he wouldn’t be able to avoid media scrutiny like he has with Gwatney (who was lesser known).

#613 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.01.08 at 5:31 pm

#609 ClearlyClinton

You are preaching truth! ALL the men I know from 1st time teenage voters, to my father who will have to ride in his motorized chair and have someone read the the ballot to him because he can’t see anymore, are SO ticked at the DNC that they are voting for McCain come h*ll or high water this year. Most of them have NEVER, ever voted republican for anything in their whole adult lives. But they’re quick to tell you there’s a first time for everything.

#614 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 5:32 pm

#609 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:24 pm

I agree. There were millions of men in those 18 millon votes and my dad was one of them. He’s a moderate Democrat that truly believed Hillary was the best candidate and is disgusted by the MSM and DNC treatment of her. He will never vote Nobama and it has nothing to do with race. He thinks he’s a borderline communist with questionable ties that would hinder our national security. My dad is one intelligent man ;)

#615 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:33 pm

Oh, and I almost forgot another little know group called SENIOR CITIZENS. All the bashing and name calling Obama’s camp is giving McCain because of his age is going to come back to bite him.

They may not be vocal.
They may not Blog.
They may not play video games.

But you know what they do?

Vote.

In droves.

#616 tennaseepuma on 09.01.08 at 5:34 pm

# 498 Gogandolf
I live in Tn and yes I sent a faxed letter to our AG as well as to our SS and a letter to the division of elections. I have disputed the right of Ox to be on the ballot here in Tn as well.
My next targets include Gov. Bredesen who I hope will lose his seat in next election.

#617 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:35 pm

Sisterluck,

I like your Dad. Now he’s a guy I would have a beer with! lol

#618 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 5:35 pm

BILLIEJO – :) )) my friend as well.

#619 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:36 pm

Game over Obama.

Checkmate!

I don’t think cupcake can find enough illegals in the US to register to vote in time to overpower the PUMA vote against him.

#620 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:37 pm

{{{{{{Gogandalf with the perfect name}}}}}}

#621 Your northern neighbor on 09.01.08 at 5:37 pm

I know Pelosi hates to entertain the idea of sitting behind Palin, and I certainly hope she won’t get that opportunity next year.

#622 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:38 pm

notfollowinthepiedpiper,

So true. So true.

And for men who love their Moms? We don’t like the women we admire to be bullied.

#623 Kelligesq on 09.01.08 at 5:38 pm

Gandolf

#566 – Agree. Lou Dobbs

Best we can do is boycott the rest. We hve really hurt MSNBC by not watching — and raised up Fox by 750,000 and 1 million viewers. That gives an idea of how many we are… We just have to organize efforts a bit better to
sponsors and managers of stations.. Like all at once instead of piece meal.

By the way – I forget the exact number, (I have written Greta also) but there is a number for every response, they figure 1000 people feel the same way, or is it 10,000 people feel the same way.

Someone in advertising would know,

So Greta has 1400 answers.
Multiply that by 1000, or 10,000

___________________

MzeBest,

We always seem to think alike :)

I appreciate you too.

___________________________

I’m also thinking Laura Bush is getting mad about the sexism and a new law may come out of this- or a stronger one… ha – that would put the zero in his place…

#624 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 5:38 pm

BillieJo – coming from me you know he has to be called GOLLUM

#625 StarDust on 09.01.08 at 5:40 pm

BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 4:59 pm
Thanks to our hero Go:
I love all the names we have for Obama and the new one,
“The DNC’s Cupcake”
precious
pretender
*61
BO, BOJO, Mo’s BO
O
rockstar
NoBo
bozo
Obahblah
Obarky
Mr. Just Words
Obiewannacannoli (I think that was it)
Oh-No!

I call him Oh-No! Quite a bit, I think it fits him very nicely

#626 Olive on 09.01.08 at 5:41 pm

Hello. As Murphy requested, here is my info. I’m a latte-drinking, Croc-wearing, Mercedes-driving, political moderate, well-educated, affluent, very proud Hillary Clinton supporter and PUMA. I live in one of the richest states in the union. I have decent health insurance coverage. I work in the fields of science, public health, and regulatory affairs. I love my job because, just like the PUMAs, I can help make a difference. I can retire now, but choose to “KEEP GOING.” However, I will likely retire before the 2012 POTUS campaign begins. I hope to be able to dedicate more time to politics at that time and I hope to be able to campaign for Hillary.

#627 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:42 pm

#626 Gogandalf

BillieJo – coming from me you know he has to be called GOLLUM
———————-

Of course, the precious, Gollum and no golden ring. We will send him back to the fires of Mordor. :roll:

#628 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 5:43 pm

#617Tennaseepuma – Excellent have you on the list now: To date from my records following States have received letters to their Sec of States from our wonderful Pumas:
Indiana, California, Ohio, Penna, Ga, Utha, Florida, Texas, Missouri, Tennessee
How great that is.
Storyteller – yes boycott the media – but we must do more to stop their flaming the hatred of the Obama supporters and suppressing the information that we all know from the rest of the general public that does not know.

#629 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 5:45 pm

kind of thinking I should have made time in Denver for some socializing, some of those McCain guys were following me, haha. “Could I date a McCain supporter” is probably a question some of us need to take to another forum, lol…. I guess that’s probably not something Dear Abby could answer. Wow this has been the weirdest election season ever.

billiejo, Re – the DNC’s strategy you know what they say, all that we need to do to foil Dean’s plans to register massive numbers of 18-21 year-old’s is throw some X-Boxes into their dorm rooms.

#630 EWard on 09.01.08 at 5:45 pm

PUMA ALERT

CNN is at it again. They had two attack stories by Keira Phillips about Palin’s pregnant daughter and the troopergate story. Bill Bennett rightfully labeled it as attack journalism.

We need to flood CNN either with emails, calls, or whatever. CNN DID NOT LOOK INTO BO’s PAST AND THEY ARE ATTACKING A TEENAGE GIRL AND THIS FALSE STORY.

#631 CTKEY on 09.01.08 at 5:47 pm

#348…Freddie…what should we do ?

I like the responses from # 480 and lotts1498. It’s all about getting the word out and getting to the voters. If I am not mistaken, BO is still running his voter registration drive. We need to get to as many people and media outlets as possible in a fashion that is positive and uplifting. (see my plagiarism of post #357 from TrishfromCanada! I agree with her too! )

It’s about educating the voters. Newspapers, Internet, and TV. We can handle TV and maybe internet. The TV one is tough.

Just my thoughts for the moment.

#632 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 5:47 pm

CNN has become garbage. They don’t even hide their bias anymore. MSNBC is the only other network that tops their trash.

#633 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 5:48 pm

#551 The Obamaites get the Nazi tag by demanding “purity”. For instance they love to say PUMAs are not “real democrats”. Or Murphy is a “republican” because she donated to McCain 5 years ago. I have never heard another group who has this “we are the superior, perfect and all knowing and you all are un pure” thing going besides Nazis. They also point out some minor offense like Palin being investigated regarding the firing of her brother-in-law and then “so a-ha! she isn’t good enough to be VP”. It is the repeated demands for purity that is creepy and something people haven’t seen since Nazis and their Aryan garbage. I can understand your being uncomfortable with it but people are reaching to define why they get the creeps from these people and it is hard to articulate so they compare to another group they got the same creepy dangerous feeling from.

#634 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:48 pm

Wow, the 8000 protesters in St Paul slash tires, break windows and get pepper sprayed and hosed. Wonder if they are Obots?

What a difference with PUMAs in Denver, we just pasted Hillary stickers over cupcake bumper stickers and I tried to trip an Obot that was in the middle of our march and causing havoc yelling “Monica”. Goandersen pulled me aside to keep me from ending up in the clink. :roll:

RNC, Laura Bush is on…I don’t like Bush, but he married a sweet woman that made a bad choice for a husband.
At least I have something in common with her, I just dumped my mistake. :-)

#635 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 5:49 pm

#616 ClearlyClinton – I am a senior male citizen – and I blog, I play video games and I am vocal – you would be surprised at how many of us there are on this blog alone – but I do think that is another suggestion that we have to consider – how to get to those seniors that are in nursing homes etc – they do not always have access to the public TV -

#636 sandtraps on 09.01.08 at 5:49 pm

Cnn is out of control. Ask them to Vet Obama. Please CNN put even 1 /100th of an effort to vet Obama as ou have done to attack a 17ear old lady.

#637 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:50 pm

My friends and I are calling him OBubble.

Remember all those tech stocks that had all the hype in the world with no business plan, no revenue and substance? Well, just like the dot com bubble that burst…

So will his candidacy.

Feel free to use.

#638 gojoyknocks on 09.01.08 at 5:51 pm

CNN should be taken off the immediately! That was a disgusting new low for jounalism.

#639 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 09.01.08 at 5:52 pm

OBubble

Good one!

#640 NoMoreInFL on 09.01.08 at 5:53 pm

Just read this on my news ticker:
“Thousands of protesters descended on the city hosting the Republican National Convention Monday, some smashing cars, puncturing tires and throwing bottles in a confrontations with pepper-spray wielding police who arrested at least five people.”

Guess the Obamobots got the wrong message on their text message. They were to give to LA hurricane not start one in St. Paul!
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW or EVER!

#641 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:54 pm

Gogandalf

I wrote “may not”. I didn’t write “they don’t”. My reference was to my parents and their friends.

And they do vote. In droves.

#642 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 5:54 pm

Hi Olive,
welcome aboard (or maybe our paths just haven’t crossed before), we could’ve used your mercedes in Denver! We had an “interesting” time finding transportation around town, to put it mildly. p.s. I drink latte’s, too.

#643 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:55 pm

#631 CTKEY

It’s about educating the voters. Newspapers, Internet, and TV. We can handle TV and maybe internet. The TV one is tough.
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Getting info out in the papers and on tv is what the Denver Group and the Big Paws (Murphy, Riverdaughter, Sherry, Will and Diane are doing)
It is very expensive.

How about if we try passing the caucus fraud info on this website onto the Republicans?

http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

#644 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 5:55 pm

#623 Kelligesq

“We always seem to think alike. I appreciate you too.”

Thanks and I share the appreciation. You and Asian and so many others have helped to give me strength in my feelings and thoughts throughout this process. I don’t know what I would have done if this group had never gotten started. I sat in the house screaming at the TV set in frustration during the primaries. Oh I still scream at the TV in frustration — but it’s not as often (which is a sign of progress) and together — I know my singular voice has a stronger force due to the fact that it’s shared by the multitude here.

I would write letters to complain during the campaign and feel powerless to know if there was an effect or if I was the only one complaining. The coordinated prowls gives me the peace of mind to know my complaints are heard in great numbers. I will always cherish what we started, what we accomplished, and what we will continue to accomplish.

The PUMA Pac and everyone that comprises this group has given me hope. And hope is what keeps everyone going (regardless of what those hopes might be).

#645 taggles1 on 09.01.08 at 5:55 pm

#634 Goandersen helped save you from the clink?!?!?

I have seen goanderson in action and let me tell ya you don’t want to mess around with her! LOL

Heya Anderson how are ya?!?!?!

#646 Notyoursweetie on 09.01.08 at 5:57 pm

Not the rumors I used to know – Obama throws the rumors about Palin under the bus
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/obama-offended-by-palin-rumors/

#647 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 5:58 pm

I am impressed with how the Republicans are working the media. First they use Gustav to cancel the appearance of their extremely unpopular President and Vice president at the convention. They couldn’t just outright cancel because the base who are at the convention still like Bush but they sure jumped on the Gustav opportunity. Then they dump the two controversial items they know about Palin which could be used by the media to cause trouble on a day when the MSM have Gustav to talk about rather than letting the MSM discover them on a slow news day and harp them to death. Now they are interviewing their popular Republican governors in the hurricane area and next Laura Bush and Cindy McCain will talk about helping parts of the country hurt by the Hurricanes. I am impressed with the Rs flexibility.

#648 ClearlyClinton on 09.01.08 at 5:58 pm

Sisterluck

You are so right. CNN is so pro-OBubble. It is sickening. And their “commentators” like Jack Cafferty just love bashing Hillary & Bill.

#649 4hillinca on 09.01.08 at 5:58 pm

Well I have been on and off this blog all day long. Have a few minutes while watching Laura Bush. In answer to question above I am a flight attendant and love it. I worked in the medical field at our local small hospital while our 2 boys were growing up. I started flying when my youngest son went off to college…8 years ago. I foster rescue dogs. I adopted a hurricane Katrina dog however sadly he died (which broke my heart). I now have a black lab that is a rescue and I continue to foster others until they can find homes. I have been married forever. I have insurance. Anxiously waiting for prowl tomorrow.

#650 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 5:58 pm

#635 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 5:49 pm

#616 ClearlyClinton – I am a senior male citizen – and I blog, I play video games and I am vocal – you would be surprised at how many of us there are on this blog alone – but I do think that is another suggestion that we have to consider – how to get to those seniors that are in nursing homes etc – they do not always have access to the public TV -

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I don’t know how we can reach older folks that do not have use of a computer. The info we have is online as proof.
I made up PUMA business cards and put them on shelves in stores, in products and books in Whole Foods and Walmart. Right on top of Depends, tools for men, baby products for mothers, books for all.

#651 gojoyknocks on 09.01.08 at 6:00 pm

630EWARD Who is this Keira Phillips and what can we do about her? I’m spitting mad right now and want to pounce.

#652 LizzyinCT on 09.01.08 at 6:00 pm

Just left my PUMA comment at Greta’s site. I can’t wait to hear her on-air response to all the posts!

If you are interested, you can report any sexist displays you view at http://womencount.org/blog

There’s a link to click on – about halfway down the page – to report “signs of sexism in this election”.
WomenCountPAC was awesome in supporting Hillary with their ads against media bias and sexist treatment.

#653 TrishfromCanada on 09.01.08 at 6:01 pm

#635 Gogandalf

I used to work in a Nursing home and one of the things we always welcomed was people from the community coming in and doing some kind of activity, whether it is physical or mental. Perhaps one idea is to have a voters trivia night (this requires some forethought). But you can draw up questions based on fact about the 2008 election, that the senior’s can answer. Would test their factual knowledge and at the same time give you an opportunity to direct the questions in a certain direction.

#654 storytellers on 09.01.08 at 6:01 pm

#590 Kelligesq
if a % americans do not pay attention to history
and do not listen to their fellow naturalized american citizens that had fled their countries due to totalitarian form of governments
we are bound to repit the mistakes of others

there are huge parallelisms between obimbo´s ways and any dictator : megalomania,media manipulation, intimidtion, people´s control, has no conscience of his limits, mobilizations of brain washed masses,… etc, the list could be long

#655 SARTOM on 09.01.08 at 6:01 pm

Greta’s husband John Coale defects to McCain after being a very strong backer(financially) of Hilllary……so has Clinton’s brother……?NEXT, the CLINTON’s?

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/01/top-hillary-supporter-switches-to-mccain.aspx

#656 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 6:01 pm

#545 dcinLasvegas – will add you to our States contact of SOS list for Nevada – way to go –

#563 TerryDo – meow:)

#657 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 6:02 pm

#626 Olive

Welcome. Pull up a chair and make yourself at home.

#640 NoMoreInFL

“NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA…NOW or EVER!”

I prefer another variation of Clinton’s words…

NO WAY — NO OBAMA — KNOW McCain

#658 YesSheCan on 09.01.08 at 6:02 pm

Why did the Senate pass a resolution (signed by Obama) stating John McCain is a natural born citizen? I don’t think it was truly an issue, but Obama helped draft it.

I think it’s because they know Obama doesn’t qualify and the fix is in. Obama tried to add some language to the resolution that didn’t have anything to with McCain’s situation.

My bet is it will come out after (if)he is elected, and Pelosi will hurry up and pass a similar resolution, for the good of the country and to avoid a constitutional crisis.

I have no doubt that many of the people we are emailing already know he’s not a eligible under the constitution to become President. Including the Clintons. Heels will be dragged till after the election.

#659 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 6:04 pm

ok Murphy this is my story~ sorry it is long, I did my best to keep it as short as possible~ gosh here it goes~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I grew up with an abusive alcoholic father. by age 8/9 I became very withdrawn from kids in the neighborhood as they would see me getting beat on the front lawn or neighbor’s front step. I was a daddy’s girl just up to that age, but for some reason my father began to resent me and would tell me “the day you were born was the day my ass was put in hell”. And things like “I would never amount to anything” and “I would just be one more cunt in the world” and “I should have stained my mothers panties then he wouldnt be in living in hell”. I didnt have to do anything to provoke him. he would come in and say “you little bitch! You think I dont know what you did!” My Mom would get between him and me. One time he was choaking my mom on the floor and I took a spanish vase that had a leather wrapping on it and hit my dad in the head. When it broke I grabbed the next one. I split my dad’s head open as a result. then the cops came. that was normal to have the cops come to my house. Then my Mom would leave and go to her sister’s and then go back. I wouldnt want to go so I would stay longer missing alot of school. When I would go to school I had no interest in learning as I just seemed to be in my own world and thought everyone knew how I was beaten. I was ashamed of myself I guess. I had all my self respect and esteem taken away~ so all my adult life I had a 7th grade education. This was and would be my biggest handicap!!!

I had 6 children. the first I was raped. (took a long time to say that one out loud!) I was again ashamed that I put myself in a situation that allowed this person to do that to me. I could not even tell my Mom at the time as I felt it was MY fault. I put myself in a situation that allowed this guy to do that to me! So I keep and had my son. It was hard to keep this to myself, but I was afraid ~ what would they think of me!! I just couldnt tell anyone. I love Mike more than life itself! as I do all my kids. Then I have my second son 3 yrs later, I was engaged. At 5 months preg, Bobby say’s “I cant do this, there is to much I want to do and see~ sorry.” I had my son and at 2 months old, he died. SIDS. I married 2 yrs later with my military bf~ had my next 2 children, another son and finally a daughter! 3 yrs later I left him. The abuse and immature attitude I couldnt take any more. I met a good guy finally. after 5 yrs with him, i became preg. again. I was planning to not have the baby, but time had passed and I was past 10wks and could not do it. so he left me. after my son was born, he came back around and wanted to live together again. he never told his parents about the baby~ when he did, they gave him an ultimatum; me or them! I was told “I cant turn my back on my parents after all they did for me!” and he left me again. Then a yr later he and the parents won custody of my son from me as I had all I could do to keep my family by myself. I cleaned houses, waited tables, and was subsidized by welfare. I did not get any support from my ex! (for 13 yrs!) They used this against me. Losing my son tore my heart to shreds! It was like the death of another baby to me as I didn’t get to see my son after that for almost a yr before I was able to get back to court~ to make ends meet I stole food, and cloths for my kids so I could make rent instead of buying these things. I sold my soul to the devil! I would see how organizations helped others especially around the holidays, but never had them help me~ i wont go there… and yes my integrity was lost but I felt I had no options then. so…

5 yrs pass. I didnt date, I couldnt trust anyone. I just did what ever job I could find to pay the bills. Well rent anyway, bills were an option. I thought I met someone with some morals and integrity (ha! so I was fooled to believe!! devastated again!) and started to date him. 9 months later we married. (dec. 13,93) OMG! what a Jekyll and Hide!!! he was the most mental, emotional, and physical abusier yet! my own mother said when she met him, he is no good! it is in his eyes! he’s sneaky! I said oh mom! (GOD how I wish I had listened to her!!!) Then the weekend that my mom passed away, (jan 10, 94) was the weekend he was his worst! I called my mom every wkend but that one~ I didnt want her to know, she would hear it in my voice. I didnt want her to worry. She told me at one time, “I hope I live long enough to see you with a good man that will love you and you children like you deserve”. I was again, ashamed that I was in this kind of environment, this kind of relationship. Ashamed that I was a fool!! The day I went back home, my brother called to come to the hospital, my Mother had died. My husband never said he was sorry, never went to my mother’s mass or any of the funeral arrangements. I was more alone now than ever in life. I allowed this guy to demean me and use me for the next 5 yrs. I dont know why I stayed. Maybe afraid of change? to be alone? well, it was on and off as it pleased him, but I did allow it, for those 5 yrs. The last time I went back with him was winter of 99. I moved back in. I became pregnant and found out at 14 wks in early March.. He said “you will abort it or else!” I told him I would not do that. I planned to move out but needed a few more wks to do it. Then on March 12th my son called and said Brian is throwing our stuff out on the porch in the rain! He went to the police and lied and was given a temp. restraining order~ and threw us all out of the house. the next day I lost my job because I was preg. and my boss said couldn’t do my job as a bartender lifting stuff! my children’s friends parents took my kids in so they could go to school. I would sleep in my car for the next 7 months. I had nowhere to go. NO ONE wanted to help me as any one i knew was from him. I moved 40 or so miles from my home area for this guy. I was ashamed to go to those I knew also, and there were few of them. My brother, well he is not much of a brother, never was. Thats another story, so yea~ I pretty much just felt like a POS! I had a preacher that was my neighbor and ran into him. He helped me some by getting me a motel room at times. Then he got me a baby sitting job mid summer~ ( I would show up at noon, she would leave for work, i would get baby settled, then shower, and do any wash, eat and eat and eat the things i bought before coming to sit, then her hubby would come about 6ish and I would go off again to sleep in my back seat till the next day and do it all over again) I slept at the rest stop on the garden state parkway, and later when i got further along I slept in the hospital parking lot. (just in case!) I saved every penny I got! I applied for help with welfare again. they denied me because I had no address! so my daughters friend’s mom said use her’s. so I did. I added that to my “rise of fran funds”! One day the lady asked me “where are you having your baby?” I told her the hospital near by. she said “no, that’s not what I am asking you”. then I knew that she knew! again, so ashamed!!! My head dropped and I cried like a baby. I was so broken by then. she took me in so I had a place to take my baby home to. I had Shannon on Nov. 1st. and was in my own condo Dec.15th. God carried me through and gave me strength to rise from this man!!! But in so many ways I am still in his grip today after all these yrs!!

I went back to school~ I passed my GED with the highest of grades! Writing scored 98%, reading and comprehension scored 95%, and social studies 92%. Math, well i wont go there! (lol) lets just say enough to skim by. I never thought I could do it earlier in my life! It took me over a yr to study for the GED. Then I went to Tech school for Cardiovascular Technology Technician. Had honor roll in some classes.
When I graduated, I finally was proud of myself. I wasnt ashamed so much about me any more. I fely proud about myself! I felt dignity for the first time. I didnt do the cardio as I didnt want to be responsible for anyones life. So I did laboratory tech= Phlebotomist. That has been for the last 4 yrs. I only made $11.15 hrly when I started with Quest Dianostics, and paid alot of my wages for my insurance. They worked you to do 6 peoples job!!! I hated it! not the drawing blood, but the wages for all I was responsible for!!! I had a car accident and they dismissed me wrongfully. I collected Unemployment. Then worked for Bio-Reference Labs, they paid me $12.50 per hr. and again no insurance as they only hire per diem/PT. I got tired of the distance to drive as they are North Jersey, so I employed with Silver Labs in Cherry Hill NJ. again no bene’s but was paid $14.25 per hr!!! wow! I’m getting there!! (being facetious)

now! here I am dealing with blood and exposed to every disease known to man, AIDES, CANCER’s, etc… and I am not given the opportunity to have any type of health insurance!!!

Mean while during all this time, my rent went from $725 to a new landlord wanting $1250 a month!! so I had to pack all my things and put my home in storage and thats been almost 4yrs! I just cant get back up since!!! I live with Shannon’s pop pop and hardly pay my share of rent~ paying my own Dr’s expenses, storage is $215 a month, cell phone, food, gas and just normal expenses keep my finances crippled!

now at almost 50, I have medical issues to address. When I was with Quest I had blood work done for some problems I have. One was a tumor marker for gastro-carcinoma [cancer]. This killed both my father and his father. So I have this pain where my dad complained of one, so I asked for this test. The results were abnormal. so I was sent to a oncologist. My job at Quest knew that I had something going on as they did my blood work. And then right after that, that’s when i lost my job/insurance. 3 yrs ago~ I have still not been able to have the test diagnosed and what is going on addressed. I also have kidney stones, scoliosis, bulging disk’s in my lower back, high cholestrol for the last 8 yrs ( found that out when i carried Shannon) and havent had the med’s to correct it the last almost 3 yrs.

My health has halted me to stop working as I am sick and not able to walk and funtion most days! I can’t eat as I feel like throwing up most times. (But I did walk in Denver!! and I paid in pain later, but thats ok! and I’d do it again!!) Greenfun and BillieJo would give me hell about not eating~ but.. I can’t force eat.

so I have made a life of hell for myself. I grew up living and accepting what I know as a child I guess in my adult life. I wish I loved myself more when I was younger. I wish I didn’t allow my father to take my self esteem away from me and I used my anger to become stronger in life and not so rebellious against myself. but as we know, you can’t change the past! I am tired of surviving in life~ I’ve just wanted to live a modest life after I went back to school. I hope to finally have a home of my own! lol.. But it’s a joke! The American dream? is there really such a thing for people like me? I doubt it and know I will never know it! That is why I went to support Hillary~ as I said here before, she fights for people/women like me! She was my hero! I am disappointed that she didnt fight back! but i also kinda understand why~

again sorry, no short way to tell my story… thats about as short as it gets i guess… so here I am… my dream stolen once again from me to finally have someone that care about people like me be our President and work for the people! I hope I get to see that day! I pray we have McCain now~ I can’t believe the hype of bozo! He scares me so much!! I believe he is a sellout of our nation to things we could never imagine!!!

WE MUST BE THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS ELECTION!!

Thanks PUMA’s~ now you know who I am. ♥

(ohh boy.. here I go.. submit~)

#660 Gogandalf on 09.01.08 at 6:04 pm

#653 OMG Trish that is an excellent idea – it would challenge their minds – make them feel connected with the outside world – you know we could also do other things as well as the political thing with them too – bring back memories of Mickey Mouse, Howdy Doody – the characters names on it – they would love it – I know I would – going to start thinking up some things now – that was motivation for me – thanks again.

#661 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 6:04 pm

#645 taggles1 on 09.01.08 at 5:55 pm
#634 Goandersen helped save you from the clink?!?!?

I have seen goanderson in action and let me tell ya you don’t want to mess around with her! LOL
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Yea, Go reacted pretty fast, the guy didn’t notice my foot in his path and just stepped over my foot. I was on the attack and Go made her quick PUMA move. :-)

#662 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 6:05 pm

Topic: Manners

I know almost everyone here hates Obama more than I do, I’ll just say I have a strong dislike for him. Also, I couldn’t help but question his manners when I saw the way he kissed Biden’s wife on stage last week, I did a double take because he marched up to her so forcefully & then kissed her on the lips instead of the cheek. His mother should have taught him to kiss another man’s wife on the cheek, not the mouth.

I know it’s a small thing but hey it’s Labor Day & we’re not exactly emailing superdelegates today so what do ya’ll think. My point being, even if it was innocent I think it (again) clearly shows he’s just too clueless to be President.

Here’s the instant replay for those of you who missed it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWeETTOrCRY&NR=1

I am betting he will learn his lesson after this faux paux but wow, kinda makes you wonder what else kind of on-the-job training this guy will need.

#663 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 6:05 pm

#572 John, you are so right! I hadn’t even thought of that!

#664 goandersen on 09.01.08 at 6:08 pm

#645 taggles1

LOL! You got that right!
BillieJo is a wild girl! Have to watch that one! lol

Hey Taggles, I am laying low, watching tennis. I am still recouping from Denver. Us sensitive ones need lots of down time. :)

#665 Sisterluck on 09.01.08 at 6:08 pm

McCain is in the Gulf states helping with the relief today. Where is Nobama?

#666 ladyhawkke on 09.01.08 at 6:08 pm

I’ve been searching FL law for hours. Just came across a list that shows whether a candidate has qualified to be put on the ballot. Didn’t no so many people were running. Don’t see Obama’s name there yet. That is why it’s important to get those letters in to the SOS & AG.
President of the United States
Candidate Status Primary General
Adkins, Bob (NPA) Active
Algar, Virginia (REP) Active
Amondson, Gene (PRO) Qualified
Aparicio, Jose M. (NPA) Active
Baldwin, Chuck (CPF) Qualified
Barr, Bob (LIB) Qualified
Carter, James (Jimmy) Harlin (RFP) Active
Crow, Randy (DEM) Active
D’Anna, Michael A. (WRI) Active
Giuliani, Rudy (REP) Active
Graham, William M. (NPA) Active
Guarino, Joseph F. (NPA) Active
Hankins, Gerald Lamar (DEM) Active
Harris, James (SWP) Qualified
Hewes, Henry (DEM) Active
Kingery, Daniel (NPA) Active
La Riva, Gloria (PSL) Qualified
Lee, Monroe (DEM) Active
Lipner, Ryan Adam (NPA) Active
Lloyd-Duffie, Elvena E. (REP) Active
Lynch, Frank (NPA) Active
Martin, Colleen Stevens (NPA) Active
McKinney, Cynthia (GRE) Qualified
McKinney, Raymond (REP) Active
Moore, Frank (WRI) Active
Mottus, Kevin (WRI) Active
Muffoletto, Daniel (REP) Active
Nethken, Frank K. (REP) Active
Nettles, Gary (WRI) Qualified
Paul, Ron (REP) Active
Savior, Ole (DEM) Active
Shepard, Jack (REP) Active
Smith, Joseph (REP) Active
Smith, Marvin D. (REP) Active
Stevens, Thomas Robert (OBJ) Qualified
Tancredo, Thomas Gerald (REP) Active
Tompkins, L. A. (REP) Active
Vick, Charles Gordon (NPA) Active
Zarwell, Eugene Robert (REP) Active
Zilaitis, Frank (NPA) Active

#667 Asian4Hillary on 09.01.08 at 6:09 pm

ATTENTION PUMA FAMILY!

I’m editing a video right now I will post in youtube. This are the pictures in the video with the song “Right Now” by Van Halen:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. Stephanie Tubb-Jones
3. Governor Sarah Palin
4. Harriet Tubman
5. Rosa Park
6. Susan B. Anthony

Email pictures you wanted me to add in the video and words to go with it. Please email it to me faapuma geemail dotcom. You can send your own picture, I’m looking forward for our male pumas to be in this video.

I open this account just a few minutes ago just for this purpose.

#668 BillieJo on 09.01.08 at 6:09 pm

#647 Seattlegirl on 09.01.08 at 5:58 pm

I am impressed with how the Republicans are working the media.

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I totally agree. Can’t believe how well the Republicans are playing the good guys in this election so far while the Demos are the frauds, thugs, sexist pigs and tossing out their base.
I really want the Repubs to roll out their big tanks and let the destruction begin of all the things we know about this campaign the the MSM have given cupcake a free pass on.

#669 taggles1 on 09.01.08 at 6:11 pm

#664 goandersen

yeah us sensitive ones definitely need a lot of down time!!! LOL :-)

#670 MKfromLA on 09.01.08 at 6:12 pm

Hi, Pumas. I’ve thought of something interesting: Obama has successfully obscured his background. He paints himself as raised by a single mom from Kansas but he has a close connection to his clan in Kenya-biological father a devout muslim with 4 other “wives”. His stepfather is also a muslim from Indonesia. Was his mother a Christian? Did she care about religion?

What does this say about his mother? I think we’re not in Kansas anymore.

His religion doesn’t concern me-I’m not a religious person, but I wonder about Obama’s real attitudes toward women and I’m concerned that people who bring up some conflicting biographical stuff about him are “racist” or are “outing” him unfairly.

Having made a decision to not vote for him it really doesn’t matter, I guess, but did the dems really vet this guy? Why do they want the Manchurian candidate so badly?

#671 hillstheone on 09.01.08 at 6:14 pm

Hi SouthJersey PUMA,
I am so sorry for all of the pain & challenges life has thrown your way. But look at you, girl, you have risen above it and gotten yourself educated and a decent job (even though no health care). I’m proud to call you my friend and was happy to meet you in Denver.

Remember, it ‘aint over till it’s over, that goes for both our hardships in life and for Hillary not making it to the White House. Yet.

#672 NoMoreInFL on 09.01.08 at 6:16 pm

#666 ladyhawkke I saw that same list and thought…who are all these people! I am looking into the FL statues and will report back.

#673 mzebest on 09.01.08 at 6:17 pm

662 hillstheone

I totally did a double take the first time I saw that too. I thought that was more than a peck type kiss… that was in the territory of “inappropriate.”

#674 SouthJerseyPUMA on 09.01.08 at 6:18 pm

665#

giving a speech~

#675 EWard on 09.01.08 at 6:19 pm

I just emailed my letter to the CNN Ombudsman. CNN’s coverage was blantant. They sent a reporter to cover the Palin pregnancy and trooper story and not one report about Rezko, Emil Jones Jr., ACORN, or Ayers? They must believe the American people are stupid.

BO must be defeated in November. This is the only way for this “lunatic coverage” to end and to stop the corruption.

I