THIS POST IS UPDATED AND REVISED FROM LAST NIGHT. APOLOGIES FOR THE CONFUSION.
Since returning from Denver, the blog has exploded. We have double the number of daily hits; double the number of new members; and double the number of trolls.
The Puma PAC blog has had 2,151,892 visits since I put it up on June 3rd. I’ve written 191 (192 with this one) posts in 88 days and readers have posted 130,163 comments. I’ve deleted a few hundred comments and banned about a dozen trolls. Not bad, in my opinion. As I’ve said before, our readers and commenters are WONDERFUL. Only a very small number of creeps have sneaked in and been able to post ugly comments.
The last three months have been quite a learning experience for me. I feel like I could write a Sociology dissertation based on what I’ve learned about people by reading what you all have written here on the threads and in the dungeon (where the trolls’ comments are held until deletion). I’ve received over 10,000 emails — personally to me at murphy@pumapac.org (not including the dozen or so additional mailboxes at pumapac) — and read (almost) every one.
I’ve always been a solitary person. I’ve spent most of my life with very few, if any, real friends. The people I’m closest to are my immediate and extended family, and for the past 16 years my children. I tend to keep my thoughts and my feelings to myself. I don’t usually find myself in situations where people are inclined to understand me. But, today I have at least ten people I can count as true friends. They know who they are. In addition to them, I also have hundreds, maybe a thousand, people whom I have come to know and understand and feel close to personally because of this blog. The insights I have gained and the connections I have developed with them are precious to me.
From sandipuma to kerri; from kendalblue to freddiebrown; from pamawao to mountainsong; from inhanyou to terrydo; from katinyourhat to neworleanspuma (please be safe); from doria to dragonfly to nycgirl to halligan; from gogandalf to wizard to goalucard to pa4hillary. Honest to god I could go on and on. From go-ohio-lady to by-the-lake- to texas-sherry to dcinvegas. From Michelle47 to MaryJo. From BettyJean in PA to Robin in DE. I am a wiser and better person as a result of knowing you and learning from you. Belinda in Utah — I think of you every day.
There has been quite a bit of confusion the last two days. It will take a few days to settle down, so I’m not afraid of the disarray, but I do believe we must address it head-on. We now face a general election with two bad choices. One for an unready democrat and the other for a republican. We know the republican will win, but this is not a cause for celebration. It is a call to Action. A call to reform our party — to reform our primary system — and to replace our leadership. As Pumas we will either vote Nothing On Top or vote McCain in protest. But our REAL work is in reforming our party. That is what Puma PAC will be focused intensely on for the next 2 and a half months.
But, until then — we need a breather. We need to regroup and settle down. I’m tired. For 88 days I’ve been writing, thinking, planning, and acting. I’ve tried to lead, direct, and guide. I’ve tried to delegate, calm, and reassure. I’ve tried to look good on tv and sound good on radio. I’ve tried to be smart and savvy and strategic. Not sure how well I’ve succeeded, but please know how sincerely I have tried.
I have asked you for money and you have given it — in small amounts and large. I am humbled by your generosity, as I’ve said many times. Because of you the Puma Movement was an International Sensation in Denver. Because of you the DNC is on the run. I get letters and cards in the mail every day from people, regular people, in California, Missouri, New York, and Ohio, who want us to succeed. They — YOU — send small and large checks to make it happen. Of the 130,000-plus comments that have been posted on our blog, less than FIVE have been blatantly racist. I am astounded by the sincerity of the hope and determination of the PEOPLE of the Puma Movement who have committed to this cause. We are DEMOCRATS — VOTERS — who have united to make change in our political system. It will take Time and Unity.
But there is one thing that has troubled me for some time. We get quite a lot of hate mail and quite a lot of hate comments. I’ve stopped answering phone calls from blocked numbers because of the number of hate calls I receive. I ignore them, delete them, and move on. But in the last week or so the number and intensity has increased tremendously.
I learned today that one of the anti-puma hate sites has posted personal and attacking references to Diane Mantovalous and me and others. They have also tried to dig into the pasts and personal lives of other Pumas. They have also attacked my mother. Listen up Pumas, if you are in any way public as a Puma be prepared to have any and every embarrassing, disparaging, and damaging fact from your life publicized and ridiculed. If you’ve had a DUI or a speeding ticket, watch out. If you’ve had a business go bankrupt or a check bounced, watch out. If you’ve been divorced or sued, watch out. If you’ve been photographed topless or drunk, watch out. If your lights have been turned off because you couldn’t pay the bill; if your children have been in trouble or you changed your voter registration or moved — WATCH OUT. They are coming for us and they will exploit every angle they possibly can.
For a long time now I’ve wanted to share with you some of the hateful comments we receive here, but I’ve hesitated. It can be discouraging and distracting. But, this is a regrouping weekend, and I think you should know. Probably a lot of our readers are inured to this stuff and don’t even consider it bad — but I do. I’ve been holding these comments in moderation for several days because I’m not sure what to do what them.
I want you to read them. There are lots of swear words and gross references. I want you to realize that most of these comments are from Democrats. Why is it, as Freddie so eloquently pointed out downstairs, that this kind of speech is acceptable? Why is that?
WARNING: The content of this post contains MANY expletives; MANY sexual references; and MANY instances of what I call “hate speech” (even if the laws of the USA do not characterize sexist speech as hate speech, I sure as hell DO (I’m with you FreddieBrown))
Wow. She’s mad at Obama because he won the popular primary vote, so now Murphy will throw her support behind the GOP.
I respect being mad about the primary. I do not respect being a liar for Fox News. Murphy is now an Ann Coulter. She makes her living off hate and racism and is actively promoting division within the Democratic Party.
Thanks Murphy. Go volunteer for military service if you’re so eager to promote the GOP.
From , 2008/08/30 at 2:57 PM
PUMA places politics over policy, just like Nader did in ‘04. People like Murphy can spew her ugly bitterness in places like FOXNEWS.
You won’t be a spoiler Murphy. Murphy is all about ripping the DNC without offering any solutions:
So let’s get this woman’s positions in the clear now:
Is she pro choice?
From , 2008/08/30 at 11:26 AM
ok, So I am going to say this, because someone has to. You PUMAs voted for a vagina, not for a movement. You say that you will vote for McCain when he voted against equal work for equal pay, when he stands against everything that Hillary represents. I am a Hillary supporter, I campaigned, told my friends, had stickers in my car and everything. But you gotta put country ahead of feelings. The country is in very bad shape, if you vote against senator Obama, you will be ensuring another 4 years at least of the same. We have a chance this november to fix it. Maybe Hillary won’t be president, but she will be a champion in the Senate. She opened doors for women to run, but don’t vote just for any woman, vote for the right woman. This Palin selection should be an insult to you. They are saying that you are not thinking, that you can replace Hillary Clinton with anyone. You were with Hillary, why? because she is a woman, or because of her message? Think it through, that’s all I can ask
From , 2008/08/30 at 8:36 AM
This P.U.M.A movement is quite humorous…a rather large group of embittered, bigoted women who have come together to avenge Hillary’s self-inflicted defeat. I am so happy – elated – over the fact that the Democratic Convention was a smashing success! And I was highly pleased with the scant coverage that PUMA received. PUMA has earned a just reputation as an increasingly irrelevant and highly intolerant clan. Or perhaps “Klan” might be the correct term to describe your…dubious assemblage.
If you PUMA’s think the Palin VP pick is a viable choice as an alternative to Obama, then you really are a bunch of dumb, self-absorbed ignoramuses. I was a huge Hillary supporter, and still wish she won the nomination. But she didn’t, and so to enact policies that are most similar to Hillary’s, and to honor her specific request of her supporters, I am happily voting for Obama. Palin is simply completely wrong on every issue. If you are voting for her simply because she has a vagina, then…Wow. Darragh….you do not have “millions” of supporters.
From , 2008/08/29 at 9:43 PM
The funny part is that Darragh Murphy has fooled all of you she is a Republican. Paid for and bought. How can you support a woman such as Hilary who stood for equal rights, is a staunch pro choice advocate and support John McCain who has already made it clear that he will put pro life judges on the bench and voted AGAINST the violence against women bill or a woman who claims to be a feminist but was a former beauty pageant runner up and pro lifer. Hilary would be ashamed of all of you PUMA idiots. By the way Darragh Murphy is a racist pig.
From The New Democratic Party, 2008/08/29 at 6:06 PM
Attention McCainiacs!
We will prevail! I promise you that are efforts are not in vain! In time, our cunt licker will triumph! If you doubt me, look to past victories. We have conquered the cunts before and we will conquer the cunts again! There is no cunt who can stand in our way! Even McCain’s cunt is by our side! Our efforts to transform the Democratic Party will NOT go unnoticed! We shall overcome, and the real voice of democracy will be felt in November, when McCunt’s platform reigns over these United States!
From Silly, Silly, Silly, 2008/08/29 at 5:47 AM
Yes we can? You facists.
From Nothing On Top, 2008/08/29 at 12:47 AM
LET’S QUELL ALL DISSENT ON OUR WEBSITE. YEAH THAT’S THE AMERICAN WAY. YOU FASCISTS.
From Silly, Silly, Silly, 2008/08/28 at 10:19 PM
PUMAs peep-up. Get out of line now and you will be out of OUR party now.
From Countdown to Denver – 24 hours and counting!, 2008/08/28 at 9:03 AM
BUT REALLY. You guys are some Losers!!! lol you are the kids who sat alone at lunch in high school!!! HAAAHAA! “PUMAS” What a gay name!
Oh yeah, werent you guys supposed to “Take the fight to the floor of the convention”? I thought there was supposed to be anarchy. Seems to me that all you guys are doing is helping my president. Way to lower expectations people. Thanks for the help.
You guys even suck at losing!!!! lol!!
From Peace, and a Plan, 2008/08/28 at 3:10 AM
lol…you guys are funny! lol you give new meaning to the term sore Losers. I emphasize the word Losers. you guys are gonna be shitting all over yourselves when Barack is elected. I’m gonna make sure I come back to this site in November just for a good laugh. ROFL!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Losing sucks doesn’t it?!!! HAHAHA!
From Peace, and a Plan, 2008/08/28 at 3:07 AM
Where the hell were you PUMAS the last 8 years while Bush raped and plundered this country and its citizens? Where were you bozos while Bush murdered sons and daughters in Iraq, Innocent women and children of Iraq. It took you this long to find out that there is no true democracy in this country, that both parties are comprised of major shareholders and that corporate interests rule us all? You should have fought against this truth for the last 8 years instead of now going against the party that at least will give SOME consideration to the poor and middle class who are in desperate need. We all own our votes but its not about me or you. Its about the country as a whole. You PUMAS are a joke and when McCain is elected maybe then when your children can’t read past a 5th Grade level and you can no longer afford health care and finally when your sons and daughters are drafted, maybe then you’ll get your heads out of your asses. Your points are pointless and you are no different than those crazy fundamentalist christians denouncing abortion on the sides of America’s freeways. If you can’t deal with reality then move to Canada. Don’t ruin it for those of us who can.
From Thank you Hillary Clinton – We’ll take it from here., 2008/08/28 at 2:14 AM
McCain is a warmonger and a crook. He is also very dumb. 894 out of a class of 899. Crashed four planes BEFORE he was shot down. Had melanoma four times. Cheated on his disabled wife with his drug-sniffing mistress, Cindy — a beer heiress. Nice selection.
From Thank you Hillary Clinton – We’ll take it from here., 2008/08/27 at 7:52 PM
What a bunch of crybabies. That’s it. Vote for McCain and ignore everything Hillary stands for. It’s consistent with the hate being spewed on this website.
From Keep Running, 2008/08/27 at 3:44 PM
I am convinced most of you are Republicans trying to divide the democratic party. I know this for sure. Fox? McCain? Yea you’re Republicans. This PUMA thing is definately a set up. Another swift boat Republican tactic. Good Luck cus all you’re doing is making democrats even stronger
From MSNBO!, 2008/08/27 at 12:40 PM
Do you guys wish Barack Obama would get killed so Hillary can become president? I hope you know if he loses his supporters will not vote for hillary neither when she runs again. It will be a process that will go on forever. She’s over it so we should all get over it too and move on. Hillary will still look after us and she will make sure Obama pushes all the policies she wants for us…isn’t that what this is about? Policies. She can still get all that done. You know she’s a fighter. Let’s get behind him because McCain’s camp is trying to make us look bad..as if we’re tools or something and we’re going to just jump on his side. Vote Obama or just stay home. Let’s not give it to McCain
From Delegates Mad as Hell: Scramble for Floor Vote, 2008/08/27 at 11:54 AM
Universal healthcare, equal pay for women, withdraw the troops from Iraq, explore energy alternatives, fund and improve No Child Left Behind, create jobs at home.
These are the issues that Hillary Clinton cares so much about. These are the issues that John McCain could care less about.
A vote for John McCain is a slap in the face of Hillary Clinton. Now is the time to show who you really are — a disappointed Hillary backer or a Republican shill. Stand up and be counted, girls.
From Keep Running, 2008/08/27 at 11:12 AM
I have been reading these blogs on and off since this site began and i must say people like you are the reason your country is in serious trouble. Hillary and Barack have pretty much the same platform with the same ideas, yet you people like everything else in your lives turn this into a game. Reading your posts is like reading a blog for American Idol. I haven’t read one post that talks about the actual issues of America, except for….”I don’t care that John McCain is pro life…I can’t have kids anymore anyways”. You really think that you people are doing anything constructive? you know what would help. if instead you put the keyboard away….got up and helped out someone in need. donate money to help someone. Giving money to hillary what a joke! This blog sounds like a 6 year old sand box. You all should really be ashamed of yourselfs.
From Keep Running, 2008/08/27 at 9:43 AM
I think this is a wonderful site for all of you rethuglicans to try to bring down Obama. It shows your true colors and hatred for all things American. To be sure, I’ve never been as disgusted with the GOP as I am when I read the Obama bashing on this site. If you people were actually Democrats, there would be no way you would allow the likes of Mcbush to get his liver-spotted hands on this nation. Should that happen, kiss the Supreme Court goodbye, with it, say goodbye to fair business practices, any kind of regulations on businesses, checks and balances on the presidency, a woman’s right to choose, to get birth control and to be cared for after a rape. Say goodbye to even more ecological laws, more oil, less alternative energy, a weaker middle class and a smaller elite class, religion’s further stranglehold on government, and a weakening of our position in the world as a result of a consistent saber-rattling out of the Oval Office. If Mcbush gets the presidency, those are just a small amount of the fun you will have visited on the USA.
If you are REALLy Democrats, what I just wrote should scare the helloutta you. If you are are what I think you all are, a bunch of repugs, then what I wrote should make you pretty happy. After all, to be a rethuglican, you must be a traitor to this nation. No honest American could EVER support the GOP, not after the last 8 years.
I’ve said my piece, I’m sure I’ll be banned from the site after this. After all, rethuglicans hate people who talk back, who speak up.
From Delegates Mad as Hell: Scramble for Floor Vote, 2008/08/27 at 9:27 AM
Are you all fucking brain dead?
From Keep Running, 2008/08/27 at 1:45 AM
loser cunts!!! lol!!!
From Delegates Mad as Hell: Scramble for Floor Vote, 2008/08/26 at 11:34 PM
http://www.nopuma.com | fsudirectory@gmail.com | 10.3.57.85
Give Kennedy some respect, Bill will get Obama a Blowjob soon enough
From MSNBO!, 2008/08/26 at 12:43 AM
PUMA!
The home of the Bitter and the Brave.
From 3:00 MDT Update from Denver!, 2008/08/24 at 8:28 PM
http://skreened.com/runningmates/ob-08-obama-biden-to-stanch-the-flow-t-shirt
the blood of 18 million voters.
From Live Bloggin, 2008/08/24 at 8:18 PM
Have you all thought about stagging an O.B. tampon (teepee) party? How can two misoginists from the North with any state in the South? Clinton/Richardson for Women and Hispanics to Unite!
From Live Bloggin, 2008/08/24 at 4:58 PM
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woohoo!!!
Hi go and anti!
Damn was here but thought I got lost
MarylandPuma & MURPHY:
That post of Murphy’s isn’t formatted right! Scroll down to the middle of the emails and they are hanging way off into the right margin.
Hi hillstheone!
Hey when I try to go to the next page of comments I get “You do not have sufficent permissions to access this page”
What gives?
MarylandPuma & MURPHY:
[This] post… isn’t formatted right! Scroll down to the middle of the “email hate messages” and they are hanging way off into the right margin.
hi anti,
Did you hear, I’m planning a PUMA reunion when I come to Atlanta.
All Georgia PUMA’s, party time the week before Thanksgiving week!
#6 snowtiger,
I get the same thing. Hi, good to see you by the way.
alright I’ll try to format it better. hang on a sec.
I scanned . . .couldn’t tolerate giving “ignorance” any of my time! SOOOO sorry Murphy. Your shoulders must be so heavy. You KNOW you are not alone, and WE ALL APPRECIATED THE SACRIFICES YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE MADE FOR US ALL!
won’t backdown – I couldn’t get through all those emails (sorry, Murphy!). Poor Murphy, Murphy I can see I better keep sending you REIKI. And LOTS of white light protection…
p.s. I wanna go back to the bedtime stories page, lol…
#8 hillstheone,
Sounds awesome! I’ll let my local group know.
HILLS . . ME TOO! Maybe bedtime stories could be incorporated somehow, Murphy ?
Murphy
When I click on pg 2 it takes me to the dashboard?
Strange.
#12 hillstheone: I would love to hear the PUMA Denver “bedtime” stories!
I guess we can go back “downstairs or stay on this thread?
Shower time.
Murphy,
I’m very sorry that you are exposed to such hatred. I really don’t know what else to say.
Evening antifish.
Guess its a glitch. Y=Thought maybe I had to do something and didn’t get the notice. Ah well. I read enough.
Hills
I wish you lived closer. I want to go to your reunion, or someones,even if I didn’t go to Denver
Too many Obama supporters in the teaching profession, and school just started.
#20 The Obamites in my university faculty was UNBELIVABLE… one professor who is a personal friend actually HOSTED the moveon.org watch party for Obama on Thursday… Clinton was a dirty word to them.
These comments are nasty but, unsurprising.
Did anyone think the obots would be nice- nice to Murphy and company?
Don’t let it get to you Murphy. We got your back and the most loyal, self sacrificing democrats I know are backing you 100 %.
geeze I’ve been on this for almost non-stop for aweek it seems like. At some point I have to put this in a healthy way in my life….
I’ll think about that tomorrow.
#21 Dem4Hillary
How do you handle it?
Just tonight I was told to quit it with the Hillary stuff . . it’s over!
Murphy.. we are all standing with you and you have our full support!! I hope in November I can send a blog to each and every one of those individuals with a BIG HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
THE DNC IS EVIL. FOWLER LAUGHING AT PEOPLE GETTING KILLED IN THE HURRICANE BECAUSE IT WILL RUIN THE REPUBS CONVENTION!!!! EVIL!!!! THEN HE MADE SEXIST COMMENTS ABOUT PALIN!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78
(((((((((((((((Murphy)))))))))))))))))))
Hi snowtiger, rancho, everyone
p.s. go – don’t go yet, lol!
I will be attending Cindy Sheehans volunteer meeting on tues. nite at her headquarters.
Any other bay area pumas want to help kick Pelosi to the curb?
Hiya Hills =hugs=
#28 hillstheone
LOL! I am still here. It was a figure of speech after reading that filth!
#30 murphy on 08.30.08 at 11:15 pm
probably better to hang out downstairs overnight. I’ll reformat the comments for tomorrow.
honest to god i’m going to bed and i’m not going to get up until I damn well feel like it.
Hi Goanderson, I live in California and I selected the non-affiliated/non-partisan option. There is also the American Independent Party.
My favorite time in Denver was the 18 million march on Tuesday. One of Hillary’s delegates participated and brought along a drum kit. It was amazing to see so many people participating – women and men of all ages and ethnic backgrounds. All wearing different styles of Hillary T shirts and buttons. Many people watching along the sidelines cheered us or actually joined in.
I was interviewed by the media several times. My partner in crime, Daddy’s Darlin’ (I have not seen her on the blog – I hope she got home safely) was also interviewed frequently. The minute we said Puma, we were surrounded by press. We laughed that we were professional commentators by the end of our trip.
I loved meeting all of the people that I knew by user name and hearing their thoughts and ideas in the flesh. It was really worth the trip.
Looking back, I also cannot help but think that much of the publicity surrounding security had to have been an attempt to dissuade people like us from making the journey. I know my group of friends opted not to go shortly before we were due to leave. In the end, it was nothing like we feared. The Police were great, the residents of Denver that I encountered were very, very nice and helpful.
Once again, I am so greatful to have found these Puma sites. What a wonderful way to share information with like-minded people. And look at the dent we have put in the corrupt DNC machine. We have more to do, but what an amazing accomplishment we have made so far.
Murphy, you were right – first they laugh, then they listen, etc.
Laurey4Hill
I just opened a tab and am on both.
At least until everyone decides where we are going.
Murphy
You do need to take a break.
And as you do, think of how much you accomplished. It’s why the trolls are so furious and insistent. we knew it would happen. Everyone gets it that this election hinges on us. And the Dems still don’t know how to respectfully ask for our vote.
We are in a good place. But you need a little quiet to get your strength up.
Thanks for the peek into the cellar.
If anyone still believes Obama cares about women in the Democratic party, this sure does paint a different picture. But not any different from the last six months on ‘the internets’ or from the comments we got when we were calling for Hillary and people would use profanity and hang up on us, or for that matter, when we were holding up Hillary signs on the Denver streets.
If there was ever any doubt that these ‘Obamabots’ were just McCain supporters trying to sow discord in the Democratic party, our experience in Denver sure put that idea to rest.
The one thing the Obama supporters seem reluctant to face is that we just might be real people with some sort of genuine and valid political interests (besides reproductive organs).
Anyone else getting daily emails from the Democratic party? I keep trying to unsubscribe, but they never send the email with the confirmation code. I continue to send them to Spam, but they persist. I think it is interesting to note, that I have never, ever signed up to be on the DNP’s mailing list.
Any suggestions on how to get them to STOP?
Murphy,
I think it’s good you posted those. Think how many PUMA’s are going to be contacted by Media now, wherever & whenever they are found. If we had a Media thread, this is what I would post:
1. Before agreeing to an interview, give the reporter YOUR conditions:
* First-name only
* Reporter must read this blog several days as part of their “research”
* Reporter _must_ include PUMA’s concerns about Caucus Fraud.
2. Interview preparation
Phone interviews are easiest, so do those.
Have notes in front of you, & speak off those.
If you’re asked a “loaded” question:
(Q – so tell me, when are the Republicans gonna stop funding PUMA?” would be a good example. A loaded question is one that has no right answer because it insinuates a lie).
YOUR ANSWER: “What I think people will be most interested in knowing is that our movement is comprised of almost 100% lifelong Democrats who are disenfranched with sexism in the media, poor leadership by the DNC, and most of all, illegal caucus fraud by the Obama campaign.”
and similar-such advice…
I couldn’t read them all either. Just stupid trolls. From what I’ve read I’ve had worse comments on my silly little comedy videos. I’ve had some say: “I hope you die … a diablo is waiting for you.”
None of this can be taken seriously. I’ve been fighting in defense of Hillary with these shit heads on digg since last January and they always have the same or similar irrational argument. Talk about “more of the same.”
Hang in there. I know it can sometimes bring you down. You have done an absolutely amazing job of organizing a movement. It’s because of you and people like you that people like me have a place to go to be around others who understand. I am grateful for that.
Why don’t we post our favorite memories & then our worst memories…, and maybe “my most surprising moment,” LOL…
Hi everyone…awake…sick…checkin in
It’s over Obama:
The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
In other words, the race is a dead heat.
regarding my post #38, I think PUMA’s are now _so_ “in demand” by media that we should take advantage of it, give the reporters our conditions before talking to them.
#42 antifis Good news
! . . what survey/where?
Hi Carrie, feel better…chamomile tea, instead of a beer?
42 antifish
Do you know how many republicans are supposed to vote for “O’ in those polls?
The ones I have been following keep saying 6% will go “O”. I find that hard to believe.
trying the ginger ale..no beer tonight just sick. Thanks the feel better..
#26 andy85719
The current leadership of the dnc just keeps proving how far down the democratic party has gone. Disgusting.
Must go for a bit. BBL.
#26 LaureyPuma
I was in the 18 million march as well, and the delegate drummer was a hoot! I didn’t get any interviews that day. I did on Monday as we marched down 16th. I was struck by the on lookers and expression on their faces. You could see the questioning in their eyes. WE made an impression and gave people a glimpse of what is really going on. So, with that, I believe we were successful.
It is always interesting and intriguing to meet people for the first time. I have made some new friends here and some comrades for the good fight.
The trip was exhausting though. I am still recouping.
Favorite Memory #1:
The surprise of realizing our Monday destination ended up being in front of an msnbc stage.
Hearing the spontaneous chants that arose (help me out here, folks):
* Who is the smart choice? “Hillary, Hillary!”
* Who won the popular vote? “Hillary, Hillary!”
* We ARE change! We ARE change! We ARE change!”
* Caucus Fraud! Caucus Fraud! Caucus Fraud!
& of course, the spontaneous eruption of “Sexist pig! Sexist pig! Sexist pig!” when Chris Matthews stepped out, lol…
#44 Rancho,
Sorry for leaving out the attribution. That’s from Zogby who is a huge Obamabot. I know it pained him to have to report this. Obama’s post-convention bounce was completely neutralized by the Palin announcement. May I say to the Dimocrats, I told you so?
anti! Please, “I told you so” w/be putting it nicely, haha..
ok I have to say this, but after reading the hate mail Murphy has received I feel like a total heel for letting some of the posts here and the very few e-mails i’ve received get to me.
i apologize to every person I’ve hurt with my words and I forgive every person who has hurt me.
Sorry, if this post is too personal but it’s important to me that i post it.
I’m going to strive harder to take the high road here.
go, what was one of your favorite memories?
#55 hillstheone
Dare I tell?
******* NOTE TO MURPHY FROM THE HEART *******
As a strong deteremined woman you hae made many friends here. We know that you have sacrificed a great deal and in coming out of your shell you have given us all a gift. I would like to take a trip to Massachusetts to meet you and shake your hand and I may just do that soon.
It will be with a firm handshake that I do this. You began this blog and created a movement that has educated so man y of us on the values which we take for granted… that is Freedom of speech, the value we should hold when we vote, and the power of the written and spoken word.
We have many patriots in our history… none were perfect and today probably not one of them could have passed the test of today’s media. They were ordinary people with human needs, but had the wherewithal to see the need people have in freedom.
I am just a 60 year old woman who has been awakened to my voice and that my voice should matter. I have taken the insults but not so many as you have. You have sacrificed much for this cause and I want you to know from the bottom of my heart that you are “loved” here and that you have made a difference for this woman.
Have peace… sleep peacefully… know that you are blessed by the Universe… You have taken an idea, formed a movement and succeeded in that noble ideal.
Take care of yourself… You are one in a million!!!!
Obama’s friend Fowler will just hope McCain get hit by a hurricane. The O-bots are evil and disgusting. Obama can’t win fair, he has to complain and insult and bash. There are now reports that McCain has postponed the Convention.
Trish I have never heard you be anything other than congenial or diplomatic
Favorite Memory #2:
Also enjoyed the van ride to the stage on Monday & the interview w/that Denver Post reporter. Note, she interviewed all 8 of us but her story has yet to print. Repressed media? LOL…
#24 Rancho:
I’m not sure exactly how I’m going to put this all in a healthy perspective. I have to tell you… i’m so hurt… it has been SO PERSONAL.. i wrote a story earlier today about being deleted from what was a personal friend of mine’s email list whom I helped financially and by volunteering to get a county commission seat. I didnt even get the invitation to her swearing in and party.
I had to deal with so much negativity simply because I said I would vote “present” for the presidential election.
I’m totally disillusioned by my leaders: my governor, my state party chairman, my local leaders. They all left us (the voters of Tennessee) in the damn cold as they held a unity champagne brunch and got photographed drnking their champagne on the front of the paper. (Even on DNC member who supported Hillary)
It’s very very personal. I’ve resigned from positions in the party.
As a tennessean who LOVES Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, I just feel like what was stolen in 2000 by the enemy (the republicans) has now been waved in my face and exploded to a whole different level.
As a young Democrat (anyone under 35 according to Young Democrats of America) who was so excited to work for the Clinton/Gore ticket on my very first race in 96 and who has been motivated and worked in situations where I was the youngest by 20 years, I feel like nothing that i think in terms of working for Young Democrats matters because Im now considered old and out of touch simply because i KNEW I was a Democrat from my first ballot.
Im deeply deeply hurt. I’ve been motivated and worked for this party in some way every day since 2000.
A few weeks back, I went back home to Memphis to help Steve Cohen win his race against a very racist woman in a very racist primary. I just needed to work on a campaign that would win resoundingly. I’m very very happy for Steve, but of course it was memphis. Memphis has now become the Obama Mecca and the most ridiculous shirts (like Obama outlined in GOLD) were worn to Steve Cohen’s victory. People in Memphis are just on an Obamagasim high like no other. So, it just didn’t help.
I have things I want to accomplish… I have gotten elected to the graduate student Senate at UT. I have sworn to getting appointed to a committee and getting some piece of legislation passed this semester. I also want to start a committee comprised of graduate students from all Tennessee universities to study the issue of health insurance for graduate students at every university in Tennessee. I likely don’t have enough time to complete it. But, we can start it and maybe it can get taken to the board of regents and the state legislature because it is just not right that I have health insurance at the flagship school but my friend at UT chatt does not.
so, I don’t know exactly what I’m going to do…. I’ve felt this week like the week that she suspended. I’m so angry, so alienated, lost friends, lost my party, lost the platform of changing Tennessee and Knoxville to Blue (which Hillary would have sooo been able to do with everyone’s help… Obama will loose by 15 points), I don’t know…. I really don’t know… I’m just very very tired, now….
New Zogby poll has McCain/Palin ahead of Obama/Biden 47% to 45%. Negative bounce for Bama. Let see if he goes lower after they show his friends hoping people get hurt in a hurricane, calling it a gift from god.
#54 TrishfromCanada
Puma hugs to ((((((((((((Trish!)))))))))))))))))
I am sorry you were not with us in Denver!
go, yes, do tell. I’m still trying to decide on my least favorite one…
#46 snowtiger,
I too am very skeptical that 6% of Republicans would vote for BO. Why? He’s further left than I am and I would never consider joining the Republican Party. I think they are using the stats from the primaries when the Repubs were voting for BO to defeat Hillary.
Beautiful post, Trish.
BMW60- What a beautiful letter to Murphy. I concur with everything you said.
I remember that you’ve had a rough summer with losing your mother, yet you are still thinking of others.
Thank you for expressing so eloquently what I am feeling in gratitude for Murphy, Mama, Dances and Maryland and everyone else that has contributed their hearts and souls and intellect to our collective cause.
Favorite Memory #3
Watching Hillary’s speech w/all the other PUMA’s plus others at PUMA hdtrs Tuesday nite…before-which I laughed with joy upon realizing Murphy’s Great Planning in stocking several ice chests with Corona’s beforehand..
Goodnight everyone.
Murphy, you seem surprised to see both yourself and PUMA targetted with such vile hatred. Why? Did you not know this level of hatred existed?
If you were a Republican and splitting from them, then Republicans would be attacking you and PUMA just as much.
The core of BOTH parties is hate. It has been for a very long time. It HAS to be in order for the parties to maintain a stranglehold on the voting public. They must maintain the appearance of being bipolar opposites. Why? Power.
It always comes back to power. Federal or local, the game is all aobut power. Threaten that power and you will feel the wrath of the party’s foot soldiers.
The most outrageous part of all is the Party itself. Yes, party – singular. When you get to the top, the parties are in complete agreement – they are one. Garnering power and manipulating that power is the their sole purpose. They may put on a good show, but they are very much in agreement: power must be maintained.
You and PUMA are experiencing (perhaps for the first time) the manipulation, assaults by the foot soldiers and the hate which is manipulated by the partisan players.
This country is OURS! — Yet, most people believe blindly they are on the right side. Tragic. Pathetic even since most are too lazy and/or manipulated to seek answers for themselves. They don’t want to see the strings they dance on.
Welcome to my world.
Murphy (and the rest of PUMA), don’t take these words to heart. They are misguided, deluded, confused and suffering under a weight which they don’t even know is oppressing them. If anything pitty them – pitty our country for so eagerly buying into the hate, partisanship and division.
It will all be over soon. A house divided cannot stand for long.
nite-nite, wontbackdown, sweet dreams
GTG, BB in an hour w/more memories..!
be back soon. I’m on the phone.
***** DEMS4HILLARY*****
I am pleased that you wrote from your heart… You are one in a million too… You raised your voice and lived up to your ideals… You are not alone and with all the people I have met on this blog.. I have tears in my eyes and can barely continue this post, but I wanted You to know that each in our own way feel the pain.
The Universe is good though… I have often thought that I was too tired to go on, but then remember this tidbit I read:
You see, it’s the same with everything. It must happen in thought first. It must. Even when, especially when, by all outer appearances, your desires seem preposterous.
Anyone can think happy thought when they’re happy, wealthy thought when they’re wealthy, healthy thoughts when they’re healthy.
Your life’s mission was to create the stage your’re now on so that you’d have reason to awaken from your slumber. To have dreams worth pursuing and the passion to press on in spite of the conditions surrounding you. to learn you must look beyond your illusions and grasp that your dreams are indeed what’s meant to be.
This is the Holy Grail. Your search is over. Go out on a limb, give it your unending best, and never, ever, ever give up. There haven’t been any accidents, you haven’t made any mistakes, and the perfection is excruciating—you’ll see.
Carry on, brave heart.
good nite everyone. Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of ______________________? We’ll figure it out.
Rancho, I’ve gone through so much. I was a member of Democracy for America because it was cool organization that I believed in. (This was the organization that morphed from Dean) We wrote letters to get H.DEAN selected as chair.
Democracy for America endorsed Obama when the majority of it’s members actually voted to endorse Kucinich. It was so bizarre. I just realized that these organizations all over the country were in place to escort Obama to the nomination. I realized after it was all over that Howard Dean didn’t CARE that OUR PRESIDENT was slashed EVERY NIGHT on national television. I wrote back in January and February begging them to make obama stop slamming this party and Bill Clinton. I just got requests for money in return.
This was Dean’s payback for 2004 and it was his candidate and all of this was put in play long ago. I was niavely used in his brother organization to threaten Democrats that if they didn’t vote him into office that they would be voted out of office. I felt so guilty for ever having ANYTHING to do with DFA. Now, i just have chalked it up to a learning experience and will try harder in the future to differentiate people and groups who want me just because I’m a young democrat who wants change and people who really care about this party even if we have some disagreements.
Tonight my thoughts and prayers are for all those in the path of this latest hurricane.
I pray you are safe and with loved ones.
We will all be here for you when the skies clear.
And have faith — the skies WILL clear.
Peace to everyone tonight.
Murphy-You are the gentlest Democrat I’ve ever heard of. I’m sorry the trolls are so beastly to you. I guess it will get worse as the election nears and we do NOT get in line. Be brave-I know I will be here at least with and looking for moral support.
#46 Actually the Repubs are pretty diverse too. It doesn’t surprise and we should remember that those voters are also vulnerable to BO bs.
My saddest moment since being a PUMA was when Hillary got passed over.
My happies moment since being a PUMA was when John picked Sarah.
I really like Sarah. Not all her political views but I like her as a person. She seems to use common sense and be very practical even when I have a different view she seems to have reasons I can see she is simply expressing her honest opinion. She has a nice smile. I bet her children are real nice kids also.
That trooper should have been fired long ago. Just common sense. He is a nasty guy. should not be a trooper. His boss should have fired the guy.
I hope she can clean up some corruption in Washington DC. where we sure can use a good cleaning.
I do miss Hillary. I so wish she was the candidate.
Go Hillary Go
Murphy, I am not a M.D. but I can write you a prescription. I took this same drug last week when I was in a very bad way…
It’s called a CAPE COD COTTAGE AWAY FROM IT ALL. I cannot begin to say how it helped my head and heart. This election cycle was hard on me in very profound ways. I started this in 05′ for Hillary ’08. What I am now is an American Woman and I am pissed off and I am not taking it anymore. I can hardly wait for the therapy I am going to get for punching my ticket on Nov 4th a certain way… some are holding their noses and doing the same, but mine is a gotcha hold on their… uh… well… their important bits. When people get that hysterical, and I was feeling that way myself the 1st week of June, it is coming from a feeling of inevitability. You mean that pretty party at Invesco did not guaranty success in November??? no silly OBOTS, that was all a charade, a very grand charade. It comes to an end November 5… the charade for the ONC that is….
…but don’t wait that long to take a much needed R and R breather Murphy, you deserve it! My outlook is 180 degrees changed from last Saturday morning to today when I came home. I went to Cape Cod National Seashore a mess and returned a sparkly new thing! Yay!
thank you bmw60
Pumas
Please take the stories downstairs to the Bedtime Stories Thread.
I’m hoping this will be a repository for all the stories emanating from Denver and the PUMA community.
Murphy said she will fix this thread in the morning and then we can all get riled up. Makes for poor sleep.
For tonight, let’s relax, have a cold one, and celebrate.
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/08/30/puma-pac-bedtime-stories/
The comments Murphy got here are so typical of OBOTS and I’ve seen similar on other blogs. I can imagine how you feel Murphy, Puma Pac has grown so large so quickly. I remember when I started my business and how it grew quicker than I could handle it. I had to slow down and delegate a lot. You have much support here including myself you are willing to help…just let us know how we can…I have great admiration for you! Rest up and regroup…tomorrow is another day…
Hello Murphy!
I am very sorry that you have to endure this horrible harrasment.
We are at a turning point in the history of our country. What Obama intends to do is nothing less than a take-over, Hitler style.
Here are a few of my observations.
Joe Biden looks drunk during a speech with Obama. I just might be. (I would) Obama kissed his wife on the lips in front of millions of people and he couldn’t do anything about it.
Obama kept insulting Hillary far after she suspended her campaing, after she promised – and delivered on that promise – to support him in the GE.
It wasn’t enough to make a fraudulent roll call, she had to be punished for it. She herself had to stop the roll call. If you don’t believe me, watch it again (I don’t know where to find it). You will see that she was on the edge of fainting.
That night was the ‘Night of the Long Knives’ in the Democratic Party. Welcome to the American Nazi Party.
What about Wesley Clark? He got punished too.
What about Obama’s plan to create a ‘civilian army’, since it is ‘proven’ that we can’t count on our military anymore?
I firmly believe that he can’t bring a fascist order in our country. Not because he doesn’t have the resources, the game plan and the people to do it, but because the American Spirit is so resilient and it would not have any of it.
These are dangerous times. Be safe.
Use a relatively safe way to communicate to us if something important is coming up.
I have a proven good system on mind. Please send me an e-mail and I will answer.
hello everyone. I have not been getting on here much. It is harder to post and I am still at a loss. I don’t exactly know what to do just yet.Or what I am doing in November. I keep thinking vote Mccain, but that is not my first chioce. I think I am still so disappointed and disgusted with the Democratic convention taht I am having a hard time letting it go. How could so many delegates allow themselves to be intimindated and co-erced? Did they not know they could band together and win??? Where did their backbone go? Did we elect a bunch of wimps to represent us??
Murphy: I am glad you posted these venal, vile comments, simply gives one more reason why the fraud of an amoral thief needs to be defeated…These his courtiers reflect the change, indeed. he has provoked, evoked, and encouraged,nay, even often paid people to do.
We are off tomorrow…leaving. Pray for my beautiful, beautiful dawlin New Orleans…She is an old, proud, earthy city…founded in 1718, older than our country.
And I am an old, proud, earthy New Orleans Puma!
Thank you. Murphy for giving us all such a lovely, wonderful voice…Onward…Never…Never…Never Give Up…I will bring my computer and see if it works.. And may the angels steer this thing to paths where the least harm may be done to all everywhere it roams.
#61 Dem4Hillary Wow . . I hope my question didn’t create more pain for you. It’s obvious your letter took a lot of thought and introspection. Perhaps cathargic, I hope? I SINCERELY RESPECT THE YEARS YOU HAVE ALREADY GIVEN OF YOURSELF . . MUCH MORE THAN ME. MY “Birth” date was May 31 when the DNC publically stole votes from Hillary. I feel very alone. .
the only ones I can talk to are McCain supporters. I didn’t get to go to Denver so I don’t have the benefit of the memories. This site gives me great comfort and peace too know I am not alone
**PUMAS . . There are lots of “walking wounded” right now looking for a place for hope and comfort. We need to remember this, and continue to be kind to each other.
Take a good and well-deserved rest.
As far as the o-bot mail goes, these disturbed people have hatred entrenched in their souls and have been deluded by Obama. This in itself speaks to the derangement of the Democratic party in nominating a man like this. If I can help in any way to catalogue, monitor or delete these things, contact me.
Murphy
I haven’t read all the comments posted, I quit before the real trashy stuff.
My suggestion is this; these comments are only meant to do only one thing…’DERAIL THE PUMA MOVEMENT’-
There are three options:
1.) To the negative comments- have someone answer them for you with a cut and paste as follows:
“I don’t happen to agree but thanks for your opinion.”
2.) The mail containing foul gross comments;
Just delete them..
3.) The mail exceedingly just plain stupid Obama talking points..Ignore them and if they find their way into the dust bin, nothing lost.
you have to understand any other tack ie. an attempt to argue a point or persuade will eventually be published
publicly.
pumaduma..
Hey guys!
The girlfriend and I were watching Paul Gigot on fox just a bit ago and she is hopping mad.
A panel member mentioned that Sarah Palin had more executive exp then BO, Biden, or McCain and was also the only one with military commander exp from being in charge of the Alaska National Guard. Paul Gigot then said that Commanding the Alaska National Guard was hardly comprable to leading the 82nd airborne.
My girlfriend is former South Carolina National Guard and has received the National Defense Medal for her service during Desert Storm. She took this as a slap in the face of all National Guardsmen, many of whom are actively serving in the Middle East.
Any chance we can get a prowl going to tell Paul Gigot that National Guardsmen are serving their country and that he should show them more respect?
Nah rancho, it’s cool… Its very difficult explaning to friends outside of the party and politics. I got a lecture from a friend of mine about doing what is healthy.
It’s just like Hillary and me as a supporter of her have been taken bondage. I have a choice of what i do with my vote and my time but my heart is hurting very very deeply.
Soo, the good news is that the VOLS play football Monday night. As much as I work on politics, I LOVE football.. I called my mother back several weeks ago and i told her that the wonderful thing about this fall was that no matter what “the nominee” is spouting from his mouth, WE WILL STILL PLAY FOOTBALL and thank GOD for that. Now, everytime I dawn the orange for Tennessee, I will think of Hillary in that orange suit. It was cool
Dems 4Hillary . . .I had to leave the computer briefly and came back to see:
#73 bmw60 for you …
It was beautiful and very well stated. I would like to suggest you copy it, and post it on your mirror to see every day. Your commitment is inspirational. Your dedication reminded me of the movie “Iron Jawed Angels” Have you seen it?
Good Night Pumas!
Remark to the bloggers, who’s comments are listed above, especially you people, who try to change our minds by calling us loser, non-democrats, c**ts, bitter , stupid etc., have probably used these same in your face tactics in the caucuses.
You are not worth our concern but we apparently are worth your concern..
We are first and foremost Hillary Rodham Clinton supporters, backers and admirers.
What the DNC, Dean, Pelosi, super delegates, the MSM et al have done to Hillary we will never ever forget. We will never vote for Obama because he was not elected, but selected, because he does not have the experience to govern our country, nor is he credible.
And you kool-aid drinkers with your negative, dirty, disgusting blogs, and also to you, who can’t form a sentence without a cuss word or a derogatory word to describe Pumas, I suggest to you that of all the comments that Murphy posted above, not one of you have demonstrated why you think Obama would make a good president.
What the Democratic Party did during the primaries to Hillary may be forgivable but it will never be forgettable.
How the Democratic Party conducted the caucuses with intimidation and in your face confrontations is a Marxist tactic that does not belong in America.
How the super-delegates, Pelosi, Dean and the MSM demanding that Clinton bow out of the race was incongruous to a democratic beliefs. They have also destroyed their own party. A new Democratic Party has to be born out of the ashes of this destruction.
We will never ever vote for Obama or is it Barry Soetoro or is it the ONE?
One more thing after listening to Sarah Palin, she is far more believable and has more experience than Obama.
Murphy – thanks for your thoughts above – I feel closer to you now than ever before – sometimes we get so caught up in the minute that we don’t stop and realize everything that you have been going through – you are appreciated – I know you must know that. Thank you for sharing your life with all of us.
Ok since I am not sure If I am going to be ill or if an alien is going to pop from my stomach and scurry across the floor, I will try and lay down.
I have seen a lot of negative comments about PUMAs as well from the videos, but I am proud to be a part of a group that has broken free of the apathy that grips most of the country and I am proud to think of all of you as friends..
You all want to make a difference and together we will change the world..the real kind of change .. not the one talked about by an empty suit
Murphy,
Let me start by saying that you have a stronger emotional state that I do! That would just tear me down and hurt me. *HUGS* You need at least a thousand virtual hugs from everyone!
Ok, here comes the uncertainty: I know this blog does not endorse any one way to vote over another. But I have posted before taht I would vote McCain (Experience in a time of War) over Obama (None whatsoever). And to read those comments, does make me think. And it hurts me. If I vote Republican (Whom I have labeled before as the Evil Party) that I am doing something against my very moral fiber. I have also stated that as a gay man I understand what I am doing. That I have myself convinced that Voting for McCain is putting country ahead of party. But is it? If I vote McCain, will he trounce women’s rights? He most certainly will ignore gay rights. But if I vote (or abstain voting)for Obama, that to me says I accept the Democratic party’s corruption. And what happens if War really does break out? The man has nothing in his past experience to draw on.
Please do not think I am agreeing with those hate filled messages you showed us, but I am sooo lost and hurt. I now keep asking myself am I doing the right thing? It isn’t easy for me where I am living. My boyfriend of 5 years was a Republican (don’t ask me why!), and I had converted him over after he saw what Bush was doing to our country. He even voted for Kerry! Along comes the 2008 election cycle and he is disgusted with the Dem Party. He has sworn that he will never Vote Dem again. This too hurts me. As the Reps will never recognize gay people as just that..People! There has been such good info out there on Gov. Palin, but those comments also paint a negative one. I don’t think there really is a good decision in this.
I vote McCain/Pain – I vote against women’s rights and equality, plus fair pay. I also vote against Gay rights. GLBT will never be seen as Human beings by the GOP. I vote against Universal Healthcare, and believe me we need this. But would Obama really do this? He was only for a partial solution, while Hillary was for FULL coverage.
I vote Obama/Biden- I vote that the sexist comments & treatment of Hillary was acceptable to me. That it is acceptable to “Select” a Candidate, rather than allow a fair election process. Those haters never mention how horrid the DNC & media truly were to Hillary through this whole process. I get a candidate that has no experience on foreign affairs, so if a war crops up he has to call on Biden for info! That is NOT how a President runs a country! Bush has done that for 8 damned years!
I vote not at all or leave the Top Blank – I am handing (possibly) the election over to Obama (see above for why I don’t want him in there). I don’t want to have to sit back and “Watch what happens”. This isn’t TV, it won’t all work itself out.
I am sooo conflicted right now. And as you can tell am easily ruffled. There are some of those arguments in the hate posts that make some semblance of sense. Conversely they also don’t acknowledge all the truth of what the DNC & Media has done to Hillary. I can’t help being a coward, I was born that way! But I do believe in all that PUMA stands for. Not telling people how they should vote, and that we need to reform the DNC.
I know this is long winded, and probably annoying as I seem to flip flop rather easily. I am soo easily swayed sometimes! Well, don’t know what else to say, just keep in there and don’t let the trolls get you down, especially the persons who used derogatory remarks against you.
*Hugs* x 1000 for you and ALL P.U.M.A.’s!
Murphy – We feel your pride and your pain.
Pride in having done what you have never done before and doing it with grace and hope.
Pain in knowing that our fellow citizens are capable of stooping so low and losing their basic decency as human beings.
Take comfort in knowing that you have done something noble that you truly believe in – no matter how uncomfortable, no matter the outcome. You have given us so much in this blog and of yourself – more than you know – for this you have our gratitude.
well I could only read the first two pages, it said that “I do not have sufficent permission to access the next pages” doesn’t matter..I hope you don’t take any of that slop to heart Murphy. You know you are my hero –not only for setting up this blog but for all the details you take care of to keep it clean and friendly.
#90 Dem4Hillary
When they play, I’ll be thinking of you, and celebrating with you win they win!!
Kempion – I know you are male – me too – your words are soothing and definitely sincere – wish you had been here with us from the beginning -
thank you rancho and bmw60… i think I’m going to go and find great quotes and make a poster and then I’m going to find some delicious recipe (probably a desert) from my Clinton center cookbook and sort of just do some stuff as a symbolic gesture to move into a different realm.
I really want to follow the lead that the entire clinton family gave us. The media reported that Chelsea went back to her job on Friday. Bill was at the UN the day after Hillary’s final primary and Hillary, oh my goodness that woman, has gone back to the senate, is focused on the causes that she carried for us and is working (even as she is being used by this party). So, that is the example the clintons have given us of moving on. it’s not really moving on, its going back to work for the things they are passionate for and their passions make all of our lives better whether it’s Bill getting healthier options for our children in school and getting COCA COLA out of the cafeteria or getting medical assistance to Africa or simply serving as the BELOVED ambassador to the world from the US. We know Hillary is working on healthcare and women’s rights and workers rights and EVERYTHING. Those are the examples, taking our passions and going back to them. So, that is the place where I want to be.
OK last post then I really am laying down
Texas Pony
It is totally ok to feel the way you do. I am soooo confused right now about where to turn. I have always equated war in my head with Republicans. I have no basis for this statistic but it just seems to me they are far more likely to go to war than would a democrat. I do know for sure a democrat would be far more concerned with when they will bring my son home to me.
I can not vote for Obama, I can not vote for McCain… Don’t feel alone Pony. We can only keep going forward and hope a way becomes clear to us. At least there are knowledgable people for us to turn to to help us see all the sides of the story.
Murphy,
You are an inspiration to all women… even republicans like me…
Stay strong, rest well this weekend. Both political parties need work and we need both. I know you are working to reform the democratic party and still I feel very strongly about helping your cause.
We need both parties because even though all people are created equal, we were given the freedom to choose. Not everyone will agree therefore there much always be a choice.
What you are doing is noble and just. Hang in there Murphy, put your feet up and relax this weekend.
This moderate Republican salutes you and your efforts you and All PUMA represent a modern suffregette movement.
You are working to protect the rights of all women voters and I for one really appreciate it.
Bless you and rest well.
Hi PUMAs,
I missed you.
#26 andy85719,
I am sorry, but I couldn’t hear almost anything of what he said, but I saw many posts about the Republican Convention post poned on ABC News link from another thread about McCain choosing Palin.
#101 Dem4Hillary
Ispirational . . you sound like you are in a good place!
Trust me Texas Pony – I am gandalf – the one thing you do not want to do is vote for Obama – the rest will come to you by November I completely promise you.
#100 Gogandalf on 08.31.08 at 12:24 am
Thanks.
I’m a centrist though… am I really welcome? :p
I’ve seen this posted here a few times:
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.
Obama hasn’t ever shown a serious lead against McCain in the polls, and they know the real fight from the republicans hasn’t even started. The pac ads will be coming soon featuring Rev. Wright & friends of Obama.
Many of those hateful emails are from paid Obama trolls, the others are from people who are desperate and angry because they know he’s going to lose. Or maybe they’re from his former church members. They show how he has NO ability to unite anyone.
Murphy, you have shown the same courage and grace that Senator Clinton did through the Obama campaign’s attacks on her and her family. I hope you take care of yourself, take a vacation on a beach, bring a good book, have some tequila.
THANKS Rancho!!! No matter what happens singing Rocky Top at the TV will be great….(even yelling at the refs or the players will be so much better than SCREAMING at Donna Brazile).
New season, new QB, new offensive coordinator, new perspective and moving into my passions to improve my life and completing the goals because Hillary said “i don’t want anything that I’ve done to stop you from doing what you want to do or reaching your god given potential”
Its a very gentle Saturday night here – I like this atmosphere over the arguments – thank you Murphy for setting the scene – too bad some of our other regulars are not here to experience it as well.
oh, Murphy, I want to give you a great big hug. You are an incredible person. I’m so sorry you have to face such cruelty. In standing up for Hillary, you have become another target. there is only one reason the attacks are so vicious — because you have uncovered a deep plot of some very desperate people. We shall overcome.
Of course, Kempion, of course.
Caracal Carrie & Gogandlaf,
Thank you for your kind words!
SIGH & *HUGS*
It will be ok texaspony – first step is to think about everything then the next step will come from the gut and you will be right – not to worry – trust in yourself, you know whats best for you and that is really what counts.
thanks to Murphy for all she has done….and everyone who went to Denver. She is awesome. I had responsibilites, here, that I had to look after even if I was only half there. Thank you to all who have responded to me. I’m angry but I’m very very hurt and emotional and it’s difficult for people to understand….
I think there is at least three threads going on here at the same time – and unless I had too much wine tonight – I see a bunch of people in yellow – Maryland and Murphy – oh my bed time – good night all
Murphy I’m flicking those hateful posts off my shoulders right now. I hope you can do the same.
Thank you for not giving up on this mission and I for one am in this with you for the long haul and I hope you consider me one of your blogger friends.
Get plenty of rest and then get us going with some more Pumapac prowls next week.
Dem4Hillary – I think everyone feels your pain right now – in some ways and in others – time always heals all emotions – just give it a little time -
Good night all
Dem4Hillary: I just went through and read all of your posts on this blog and just from what I’ve read I do feel your pain. I’ve been so angry and hurt over this whole election that I don’t know how I would feel if I had been in your shoes.
Stay with us and share your feelings, it might help.
Murphy and all PUMA’s … take a deep cleansing breath and think of a place where such evil is extinct! Remember that we are all blessed by the fact that we have the right to voice our opinions (despite what the chosen one says)! Anytime I find a doubt comming into my head about this election I watch this video http://www.break.com/index/obama-does-def-comedy-jam.html which helps to remind me why I say NOBAMA … that said I am off to bed, I hope sweet dreams of happier times fill every PUMA’s head tonite…
Peace
Joe Biden caught hitting the booze on the campaign trail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
Murphy, it is time that you take a well deserved vacation, enjoy your wonderful children and husband.
You have done a wonderful job opening up your blog to all of us Pumas, because so many of us needed to vent our anger and disgust about what was happening in the media and the primaries.
You gave us refuge and we now give you a safe place to rest by sending you spiritual white light for protection and our prayers to give you guidance and peace of mind.
You are a woman on a mission and you have completed your first division successfully. If that were not true you would not have so many nay sayers.
And remember Murphy rejuvenation comes quickly when you know you are tired from your good works.
Congratulations to you Murphy and your many close allies such as MamaPuma, Maryland and all those creative Pumas and many of the rich Pumas, thanks for being pillars in Murphy’s life.
And thanks to you also Murphy’s husband (sorry I do not know your first name), for sharing her with all of us!
Good night Pumas .
MURPHY,
Smart, smart, smart in posting all of those. That is the best thing you can do to people who are filled with so much fear and hatred. They thrive in the dark corners becuase when they are exposed, they can’t maintain the charade that what they do and say is ok.
Also, it is very validating to see a written account of how grotesque that mindset is and it reminds me of the importance in taking action against people like that. If you weren’t the kind of woman that can fight against that vile hatred, the world would be worse off.
Ok, I didn’t read all of the comments from the meanie faces. Some of them are tame compared to what I have read, especially in the last few days from all over the net. What can I say? Obama supporters are mean, and it comes from the top down. It also stems from the fact that many of them are very young and immature, or they have a hatred for women, or quite frankly, they are racist.
The problem is, even knowing that you are above all of their sad hatred, it is still verbal and emotional abuse. It’s abusive to constantly deal with the Obama supporters. They are consistently nasty.
So, it’s also good to mix up the day and add very pleasant things to counter-balance the yucky stuff. Lean on nice people for support, go for a nice walk, spend some time outside alone, read, take a fancy bubble bath with low lights, take naps, paint, journal, watch cute/ funny animals or babies laughing on youtube (not kidding), and read inspirational quotations, or do whatever calms you down so you can feel relaxed and peaceful. Go ahead and get some great new facial mask or get your nails done, or even catch up on any stuff you have neglected that is irking you…and then have a glass of wine afterward. Listen to calming music.
Just remember to have your own personal *chill time* every day.
Beyond that, for puma pac, now I always say to dream big, and it’s already big. How about we just consider a few good themes and stick to them as a goal for the next few months. I think we should also lean on our JSND brothers and sisters, since other groups have their plans for the next few months, like The Denver Group. Maybe each JSND can group can work on their themes and we can all balance out somehow. I don’t know. Puma Pac has many emails of members, so writing campaigns are a definite.
Definitely, everyone should take time to relax, and regroup, catch up on things, and just mellow out. No worries.
We all got each other’s back. Everything is cool. Murphy, go ahead and do something really different and fun just for you alone.
Ok, pumas, night.
Murphy,
Thank you very much for everything that you’re doing. You’re a great leader and organizer that’s why we PUMAs are so strong.
I am back in school, that’s why I am not on here very often. I am so sorry that you received these comments. I also feel very offended, angry and upset when I read posts like that on CNN, ABC News and other sites. I will email you in a little bit.
All the best,
anonymous
After they treat Hillary Clinton like crap all year, now she’s the Democrat’s hero. They make me sick. They call Sarah Palin a gimmick, but HC wasn’t even good enough for the vice presidency. Jerks. Jerks. Jerks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/opinion/30collins-.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin
Murphy,
So sorry to read these comments from such horrible trolls and know that you kept these to yourself. There’s no excuse for hateful, nasty bottom feeders like these scum of the earth. But always remember that in the end good triumphs over evil and come November we will be vindicated!! Please take a rest and regenerate your spirit. We still have a long fight ahead and we’re counting on you to lead us.
MURPHY
IM SURE YOU DONT REMEMBER TALKING TO ME BACK IN JUNE OR SO, BUT YOU E MAILED ME AND OTHERS TO GO TO DIANE’S “MEDIA SOIREE” – (took me about 3 hours to find the place (: )
Most of those emails that you’ve put up are from the kool-aid college kid types – the same ones that call everyone racist – and mean nothing. If they are worried that we are going to be spoilers like Nader, well that’s the point isn’t it. In this instance and for the country we love, it’s a compliment. They should have thought of the outcome of calling all Hillary Supporters racists, and other choice four letter words, of stealing votes, of stealing caucuses, of calling our candidate filthy names. Now they have the outcome and they don’t like it – tuf canugie. They did it – they didnt need us old hags – they told us to get out of the party – let them live with it.
However, aside from the kool-aid kids, the looking up such personal information is more likely professionals on O’s payroll.
So let me tell you what I told Diane (whose mouth just about fell open) Of course, some things you are reporting to the police which is very important to do,
next get yourself a licensed revolver, maybe a nice 22 rifle, let it be known that you have it, and if anybody is trying to nail a dead rabbit to your door, use it. Like a cop once told me, ” if you shoot ‘em outside, drag the body inside.” LOL.
You’ve come a long way lady, and some sniveling mesmerized nazi youth wannabees are not going to get in your or our way.
Other than that, get some rest and a hot bubble bath.
Kelli gesq
P.U.M. A_ _
texaspony
A couple things to remember. You are not voting for the whole REP ticket. You would just be doing a one time protest vote to make sure that OBAMA does not get in. Me I will research each of my states candidates and vote for the “good” DEM and make sure I vote against the ones that took money to vote against Hillary.
Just a note too, I looked up the equal pay thing that Obama keeps saying the McCain voted against in the Libarary of Congress. It was not just against women and it was not specifically to do with equal pay. It had to do with how long any one who thought they were being discriminated against in their wages had before filing a law suit. McCain did not vote for or against it, he was not present.
You will figure it all out. Look things up. The Library of Congress is a good place to start. Those are facts. But most of all know that Murphy and the rest of the PUMA are here if you really need answers. I can guarantee they can find them
Take care and be careful.
Based on all your comments, seems like you all had a great time and you have cherished meeting each other out there. Keep your good work. PUMA makes me want to continue to come here, read and be a part of this to learn this new evolution. Murphy, some day I want to call you and let you know me or I can write to you personally so you understand my faith in this cause. Enjoy your time.
MURPHY
First of all:
WE HAVE YOUR BACK ALWAYS!
Second of all:
Thanks for your message above, especially the shout-out to some of the regular PUMA Pac bloggers.
The day after Hillary suspended, I found this site through a link at http://www.clintondems.com, and I have never left here!
I have often wondered what the French people went through under the Nazi occupation of their country during WWII. I think I know now. I have said this before:
We are the Resistance.
Murphy, being a freedom fighter is not easy. You are a natural leader. Just like Hillary, you will be loved and you will be hated. Here’s what Hillary said at the Dem Con, quoting Harriet Tubman:
“If you hear the dogs, keep going.
If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.
If they’re shouting after you, keep going.
Don’t ever stop. Keep going.
If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.”
And then when you slow down to catch your breath, watch this beautiful tribute to Hillary. I got this link in an email from Clinton Dems. The video is entitled:
“Thank you, Sen. Clinton”
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And thank you, Murphy.
NYCgirl
This is what they chose instead of Hillary, a drunk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
TucsonPuma – I know I said good night but lurked a little before really going to bed – I am working on a project now that I am almost finished – this will make us all feel good – trust me – I am on Ohio as we speak – hope to finish by tomorrow – I am going to post each State what official is up for re-election in November – if they took money or not from BO or Pelosi – so you can vote them right out of office – its taking forever but I hope it will be used for good over evil.
Thanks for sheltering us from this day in and day out. And thanks for posting it tonight as I have wondered what was going on in the dungeon. But really it isn’t far off the abuse that the Obamaphiles feel free to spew at us anywhere we are. I have never seen this level of misogyny.
Murphy, you have done so much and you are very intelligent and inspired. I think you should take off time any time you need it because if you don’t you will not be able to hear your inspirations. You must take care of yourself for your family, yourself and because you are inspired. We really can take care of ourselves.
You guys, there are several threads going tonight and perhaps that is pointing to a new direction. Because I can hear the sorrow and anger in the self identified Democrats I think you guys may need a place of your own to gather your critical mass. It is always far worse to be betrayed by your own group whom you trusted. The Democrats are spreading lies about anyone who gets in their way to gain power. They corrupted their own democratic primary process. They freely spew hate against women, one half of Gods people. I really don’t think anything can be done until their landslide loss is over but you devoted Dems need to take care of each other until then. Laying low, conserving energy is a strategy.
#132
There are many embarrassing videos that show the crazy nuts comments Biden has made over the years. The Republicans will certainly be putting together a shortened version of them for an ad.
#131 NYCgirl
Don’t know what happened with that YouTube link to the beautiful video dedicated to Hillary.
Here’s the link again, hopefully:
“Thank you, Sen. Clinton”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kfZLuI1wqg
NYCgirl
133 Gogandalf
AZ Gabrielle Gifford 9000$ from Obama
So far that is the only one I have found. I can not post very often as I have to use my computer for my work, and must run a complete scan and clean before I can enter anything so if I can help email Murphy and she can give you my email and I will try to help.
Good night all
Take care and BE CAREFUL
#133 Gogandalf,
Please don’t post it here. Email it to Murphy or MamaPUMA or somebody else so that they could E-MAIL it to everybody else. Our blog is available to trolls too. This information is very private to be used ONLY and EXCLUSIVELLY by PUMAs.
I accept that Hillary will not be the leader this country needs and deserves in 2008. And I’ve never regretted supporting PUMA and it’s reasons to challenge the DNC. Unlike many other nations, we have the choice to express our beliefs and protest what is unjust. Many Obama supporters can’t accept that and have fallen to near-barbaric depths, brazenly making threats, acting violently, accusing everyone under the sun of being racist. This is the reaction seen in lesser nations, where there is no other way of defending an unqualified “puppet” candidate. Obama clearly despises this country (yeah, the Pledge of Allegiance is a real hoot, O) … perhaps his followers take such examples and translate them into despicable comments. Or maybe they’re just a bit upset the selected Dem still struggles in the polls, even after 8 years of Bush? PUMA has made it’s mark. It’s all worth it, Murphy. Thank you!
Murphy,
I haven’t been here as long as the other PUMAs, but I have been reading the postings and made a few comments whenever I can.
Please do not let these Obama people get you down. It’s not worth it. You have done a great job leading the movement, and I’m happy to be a part of the group.
All these people that said they were Hillary’s supporters but now backing Obama because Hillary has gotten “over it” and get behind Obama in order to push her agenda. Well, these morons must not care about how Obama won the nomination or how bad Hillary was treated by the male and female leaders of the DP or how she was ridiculed on national television. No one is going to tell me how to vote, not even Hillary. So what, if some or most of us will vote for the McCain/Palin ticket? It’s a lot better than to vote for someone who’s nothing but an empty suit. Great speech doesn’t make a great man. I’ll take Palin over Obama any day. But, is she running for the president? Oh, no, it’s McCain. So, why is there such a big stink about Palin’s inexperience? She has executive experience which is more than I can say for Obama. He’s been preaching “change” since he entered the presidential race, but he’s politics as usual. He’s Washington insider along with Biden. But, Palin is an outsider and a maverick and she will be an asset to McCain. She will be the agent of change. The Democrats could have the control of the White House for the next 16 years with Hillary the first 8 and Obama the following 8 years. But, nooooooooooo, the Democratic leaders had to crown Obama this year through any cost and run Hillary to the ground. If I were Hillary, I would leave the Democratic Party and join together with Bill and work on his foundation. She can do so much good for so many people in this country and in the world and she won’t have to put up with all the craps. She will be more powerful than Obama.
But, for now, McCain/Palin ticket is looking very promising.
Have a good Labor Day Weekend and stay safe for those of you in the path of Gustav.
Cheers!
(((((((((((((((((((murphy))))))))))))))))))))))
We WILL win in November. We WILL make a stand.
If I vote for a cheater, I can’t look my class in the eye every day, so Nobama for me. That is more important to me than anything my union might say.
In honor of my favorite Blogtalkradio troll, Pres Obama, who faithfully came to every No We Won’t radio show, may he be at peace in the dungeon…
I pledge to support candidates put forth by the New Democratic party, where actions speak louder than words. Where the ideals of the New Democratic Party of equality and justice are not tainted by the corruption of this election season.
I pledge to support Hillary Clinton in 2012, 2016, or whenever she chooses to run again for President.
I pledge to work with my PUMA family to get rid of voter fraud and corruption in government; sexism, racism, and homophobia in the MSM; and to make the New Democratic Party a respectful place to be.
Who will join me?
Evening everyone. Murphy, we have your back.
The bots are going bezoinkers over at BBC website’s comments, too funny, surprisingly equal number of people are praising Palin too.
Great read about PUMAs and Hillary’s speech:
HILLARY’S DIE-HARDS
WILL SHE DEFANG ANTI-O PUMAS?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/hillarys_die_hards_126279.htm
The Obamas have been trying to bridge this divide. On Monday, Michelle Obama honored Hillary Clinton by name. The Clintons have been given not one, but two, prime-time speaking roles during the convention. But there’s so far little sign that these efforts have helped heal the bitter feelings.
And as she took the podium, resplendent in orange, the question remained: Would Hillary deliver? Because she needed to make it crystal clear to the PUMAs: Do not derail the Democrats or vote for John McCain – not in my name.
Instead, Hillary gave a virtuoso performance that seemed designed to remind the convention that she is the rock star in this party. Take out the obligatory references to Obama sprinkled throughout, and the speech could have been her acceptance address.
It was if she wanted to inspire a bit of buyer’s remorse – with the warranty offer that she owns Hillary2012.com
Hillary’s crescendo last night may provide catharsis for her supporters, but it’s more likely to leave the PUMAs reading new meaning into Clinton’s Fleetwood Mac anthem – “Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow.”
Hi BillieJo. I think some people are TOO harsh on Senator Clinton when this just is politics, and she have to play the game.
Hi, everyone!
MURPHY: Thank you very much, you have done a great job and we are all proud to be part of your team.
ALL PUMAS: You also have done a great job in such short time. We are in the news every day and that is thanks to all of you and our leaders.
My suggestion: Murphy is exhausted and a lot of us are too, how about a two day break from blogging? Let’s put a “maintenance for the minds and body sign” on and come back in a couple of days. I mean it, Murphy, Maryland, Mama, they are all exhausted and if we are here they have to be moderating. Let’s give them a break and keep informed either by postings only by the leaders or email.
Minds have to rest or they break down! there has been lots of stress going on to arrange the trip to Denver, etc.
IMHO
Murphy –
I am sorry for any threats or ugly comments you may have had to endure with this blog.
You and your MamaPuma are exceptional Democrats, intelligent, hard working and kind.
Thank you once again for giving us a place to gather and work to make our party something we will be proud of again some day.
None of us could ever hope to make a difference alone, but together we can address the criminal role of the campaign machine that has decided that the American voters are only a group to use and manipulate to their own ends.
I will not vote for the precious pretender but will vote for every Democrat on the ticket that has fought for Hillary’s agenda.
Big PUMA hugs to (((((you, Mama, MarylandPuma and all our wonderful ‘Big Paws’.)))))
goodness gracious, have we struck a nerve or what?
I just got home, it’s 1:42 am, logged in, and wow, but not surprised – there’s some heavy duty hatred out there, sadly encouraged by Barky and MObarky.
Shouldn’t he and the DNC be encouraging people to approach presidential elections in a civilized manner?
Sure there’s negative and very negative advertising and all, but not threats and all that baloney, it’s uncalled for!
What do they think they’ll accomplish?
The DNC and Barack Obama needs to speak out against all that immediately.
Murphy, please take care, be careful, you and your family, and please remember I appreciate you and am thankful for you.
Don’t touch that beer, it is specially reserved for Biden, along with another 49. He is patriotic. He drinks a beer for every state.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
The other night, I’d really had it and couldn’t bear to watch Obama’s speech. So my daughter and I went to see ‘Mamma Mia’ again for the third time! I came home feeling much better and grateful that I had missed the whole spectacle.
If you haven’t seen Mamma Mia yet, please go! It’s the ultimate ‘feel good’ movie. I love the way all the women relate to each other. It leaves you feeling that there is always hope and that it’s never, ever too late.
#148 andy85719.
“He drinks a beer for every state.” :lo:
#148 andy85719.
“He drinks a beer for every state.”
Hi everyone,
JUst to tell you everyone is posting over at the previous link (“Bedtime Stories”)…come on over.
#143 BillieJo
I think this link you posted is the worst and meanest article I have read about us!
#132 andy85719
This video on Biden is shameful! I sent it to the NY Times and CNN. Obama clearly commented on stage to M about his drunkness. He must feel so soooorry for his pick! Today, on the campaign he looked very bored while Biden was speaking. I think Biden is not a very good orator. He sounds like he is a street seller yelling out his product!
I don’t comment here much, but I read daily and donate. I consider myself an ardent Clinton supporter and a PUMA. I just found the website that is attacking PUMA leaders and calling PUMA a cult. This is obviously an attempt to discredit people who organized and worked hard to prevent the Democratic Party from disenfranchizing voters, installing an unqualified candidate, ignoring the majority of voters, and attempting to hide the fact of Hillary’s accoplishments in the primary. These attacks are evidence of extreme fear of the power of PUMAs. They know we will affect the outcome of this election. Being attacked in this manner should be viewed as a badge of honor. If Hillary could withstand the vile attacks on her for many years, PUMAs can with stand these mere gnats.
I saw some comments over on the website from a filmmaker (Brad?). He defended Murphy. They probably expect to scare off some PUMAs with these accusations, but it did not work on me. I wasn’t born yesterday and I can recognize distortion when I see it.
I cannot wait to join the New Democratic Party. Thanks to PUMA leaders for courage and direction!!
PS: on that PUMA cult accusation, I’m not a joiner or follower. I like to work alone. So I don’t gravitate toward cults. I signed up and donated in order to elicit specific outcomes. Keeping Obama’s mits off the White House and kicking the asses of Dean, Brazilla, Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards, Richardson, and Cruella Pelosi. PUMAs are not cult members, we are action heroes!!!
I don’t know if anybody already posted this, but here’s a link to the interview with Sarah Palin with ” Time” magazine.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837536,00.html?iid=sphere-inline-bottom
She’s a very smart woman and would be a brilliant VP.
Lorelai… thank you for remembering my Mother’s death this summer…… I was very lonesome for her today… and sad…but when I am sad.. I have found that remembering the good times we had helps and giving encouragement to others does to… reminds us we all are imperfect and need encouragement to keep on..
By the way, I often post Notes from the Universe.. We can use them, but Obama is not using them…
He used Rezko, Wright and all the rest of his dirty political friends to get where he is today… U cannot fool the Universe!!! Bless you all.. and good night!
Hey Murphy – I do not get involved in these discussions much, but after reading you comments tonight about all this hate mail you are receiving, I just want to say that these people are the ones I am standing against. I have been receiving some of those similar comments from my so-called friends in the democratic party. I can’t stand to be around them anymore. They are nasty, immature little twits. I can only say this, Murphy, if you were not succeeding you would not be receiving these comments. This is the only way they know how to respond. What a bunch of twits our generation has raised. Please ignore them, Murphy, you are so much better than all of that. I am so thankful you are taking a stand and showing exceptional courage. Thank you…
(Bluejay — formerly sandbag – changed nick due to confusion with sandipuma & sandtraps)
I’m not a big fan of guns, and Sarah Palin’s lifetime membership in the NRA is not something I can relate to. Her support of drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is the real deal breaker for me. That’s the issue that’s nearest and dearest to my heart, and I’ve been actively fighting against it for years.
http://www.defenders.org/programs_and_policy/habitat_conservation/federal_lands/national_wildlife_refuges/threats/arctic/index.php
I wanted to post this as extracted from the New York Post…
” “The PUMAs can’t deny Obama the nomination,” says longtime Democratic strategist Mary Anne Marsh, “but they can cost him the election.”"
Damn Right Mary Anne Marsh – we will show Obama that there is more to American sensibility than fireworks and big talk.
I just watched the entire CNN interview with McCain.
He seems very genuine and down to earth. He and his wife have made mistakes in their life and who hasn’t ?
Democrats and Republicans have said he has reached across party lines to pass legislature. The more I know about him, the better I feel about casting my vote.
How many of Obama’s followers have had the attention span to sit down and learn about the opposition. In fact how many have actually bothered to learn about Obama beyond his fantastical feel good speeches?
f you hear the dogs, keep going.
If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.
If they’re shouting after you, keep going.
Don’t ever stop. Keep going.
If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.
Even in the darkest of moments, ordinary Americans have found the faith to keep going.
I don’t know how to make the post above a quote, but let it be known that it’s a Harriett Tubman and Hillary Clinton quote (DNC convention speech)
#160 Dhyan on 08.31.08 at 2:36 am –
I thought that was very strange of Hillary to have this in her speech when I first heard it….. Perhaps we should heed what she is saying… Keep going….
If you hear the dogs, keep going.
If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.
If they’re shouting after you, keep going.
Don’t ever stop. Keep going.
If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.
Even in the darkest of moments, ordinary Americans have found the faith to keep going.
(Bluejay — formerly sandbag – changed nick due to confusion with sandipuma & sandtraps)
Goodnight all ~
Thanks to everyone for the friendship, the support, the information, and all the hard work.
You guys are great . . . .
#161 Dhyan – to quote something.. you usually put
quotation marks like this… ” If you hear …. ”
Or you can say:
Quote: ” If you hear….” Unquote.
Usually the ” ….. ” would be enough…
boy this little 44yr old woman has those kool aid drinking adolescence scared to death.
I guess this is why
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/
Sarah Palin vs. Barack obama
Murphy, you are OUR un-chosen ONE.
We turned that corner back in June and there you were.
You were just one out of 18 million.
And a ‘murphy’ just referred to one of those quirky opposing coincidences. And a puma was still just a high-mountain cat.
That has now forever changed.
In only three short months you (an everyday, non-public American citizen) have given life to a movement in this country which has spread throughout our nation—witnessed by audiences globally. You have been instrumental in this country’s initial battle for a true democracy. You’ve lead our cause with focus.
You weren’t really chosen by us. You just “happened” to us. Thankgod for that!
So now more than ever you need to ignore the naysayers. Click, lock and delete-launch the trolls to deep space.
You have a growing army and leaders here at your back. Take a short detour from the battleground. Rest up. That Cape Cod Cottage by the sea prescription sounds like just what the doctor would order.
Meanwhile, the bots are busy elsewhere and your surrogate leaders and pac(k) can begin prowl plans. Enjoy some time off the clock.
I read and article on the CNN website that Palin was booed on the campaign trail today, when trying to thank Hillary Clinton for breaking trail.
Anyone want to assist me in going to the McCain site to make it known, they need to respect Hillary, if they don’t want to start losing support? Wether or not they dislike Hillary, McCain supporters need to acknowledge Hillary paved the way for Palin to be so easily accepted.
Nasty little BOts… ugly, nasty little BOts.
Sorry you have had to read these Murphy.
PUMA!
Wow I can’t believe these people write these.
Actually I’m not surprised but atleast i know what they say about us. Its pretty sad. These are the people who bring change….calling us Cunts and Republicans and saying we voted for a Vagina…what kind of people are they?
Just imagine what the inner workings of the Obama camp sound like. This must be whats going on. I’m glad Hillary wasn’t his vp, he doesn’t deserve her. these people who call themselves Obama supporters are plain fools.
Murphy thank you for showing us this. Even though its bad its atleast good to see whats out there…
I agree this has been a week with emotions all over the place.
hi everyone,
I haven’t been posting here but I can see I missed out on some good conversations. I _did_ post a lot of my Denver stories on the previous thread.
nite-nite, and sweet dreams.
p.s. this nasty poster did us a favor, if we wanted to be nasty we could use his same exact words on the 18-25-yr old bots who keep bashing Hillary:
“Where the hell were you Bots the last 8 years while Bush raped and plundered this country and its citizens? Where were you bozobots while Bush murdered sons and daughters in Iraq, innocent women and children of Iraq., why didn’t you go after Bush & Cheney and get those immoral men impeached instead of unleashing all of your fury on an accomplished public servant like Hillary Clinton?!”
morons…
Bluejay,
Maybe I’ll go see mamamia tomorrow nite!
nite-nite, everybody & sweet dreams….
MURPHY: If NPR ever interviews you again, be sure to supply them w/the verbiage of some of those posts.
Murphy
Just think of this blog as a place where anger is reflected back onto those who send it. ;0
I haven’t read all of the comments posted here, and don’t know that I’ll be able to because of the late hour. But I did want to comment on what I did read:
#61 Dem4Hillary on 08.30.08 at 11:42 pm – - Wow, thank you for sharing all that! You know you’ve got new friends here. Hang in there! I also have been completely alienated from many of my closest relatives because of my position on this election…combined with their closed-minded worship of every & anything Obama. Actually, I should probably say I alienated myself, just because I don’t want to be around people who live & breathe Obama, talk politics all the time, and yet can’t even consider hearing any opposing viewpoint without responding with animosity and yelling. On the other hand, there are others (Republcan friends & family members) who I formerly had nothing in common with as far as politics. And we have now really bonded over our shared concerns about Obama as POTUS.
And TO YOU,
MURPHY,
THANK YOU FOR SHARING!! And for all that you do!!! It’s a shame some people are so hateful/spiteful. I do think it was the right thing for you to do – to let us know the type of negativity puma’s were generating. I suppose it’s to be expected. It’s not that much different than the types of comments I heard first-hand from the relatives I previously mentioned. Hang in there Murphy. What you did in starting this organization was very, very important! And I am grateful to you for that.
I cant tell you how many times coming to this blog has rejuvenated my spirits and attitude! In the times where I was so incredibly discouraged about what’s happened with Hillary, it was very helpful to know that I was not alone in how I felt. And….VERY IMPORTANT….also helpful to know that I wasn’t the only Hillary supporter who hadn’t converted to B.O.!!! Because the problems I referenced with my family – began way back in Feb. They were adamantly against Hillary & pro-Obama during the primaries. (I could hardly believe it, since just a year prior, they loved her and were always borderline-fanatical over Bill Clinton). However, during the primary process I still had MANY friends who were for Hillary & against BO! But after Hillary suspended in June, It was extremely dis-heartening to me that they seemed to all be going over to the Obama camp, while citing that we couldn’t have another 4 years of Bush. I was as anti-Bush as one could be! But from the very beginning I had a horrible feeling about B.O., which only grew as more & more became known about him throughout the spring. It was when my Hillary-supporting friends were sticking with “the party” that it became so helpful for me to know that puma & all of you were out there….and felt similar to me!
I’ve been here since the beginning. While only checking in on conversation every so often, I did always read the emails and participated in whatever prowls I could! I didn’t post much previously because it was the first time I’d ever really used a blog like this…so I guess I was hesitant. Well, that along with the fact that my available time to available to spend online has been very limited this summer. But thanks to Puma, knowing that there were so many people out there who felt exactly like me about what was happening…was VERY reassuring!!! I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH! The puma movement was SO necessary in letting some of us know that we were not alone! And didn’t ‘need’ to tow the party line to still be considered a Democrat.
Thank you again Murphy, and everyone else too!
(Sorry for the long post)
I have not been posting on this site, though I joined early on as a member. I do most of my fighting on the message boards, doing hand to hand combat with article authors or the responders. Responders who say all the same things that Murphy has posted above.
Since I can duck in and out, and plan my responses, I cannot begin to know what it must be like to be in Murphy’s position. Personal attacks are something to wonder about and see as a security threat. But you are winning the fight. No one would be threatening you if they did not see you as a threat to their position.
Many of those Obama posters have been trained, and paid for to do what they do, and they will deny it to the hilt.
Don’t believe them, but don’t base your arguments on that either.
I’m an Independent who will generally vote Republican, but it is always based on who I think is the best candidate available.
I was fine with Obama becoming the next President, until I heard the name Ayers. Since that day, many months ago, I have researched every link, article, book, and connection I can find to Obama, Ayers, Rezko, Soros, moveon.org, Woods Foundation, Annenberg Project, accusations of voter fraud in the caucus states, fraud in the use of super delegates to force Hillary out, and checked out his voting records.
Every thing I read just makes me more certain that there is no way Obama should be President. Ever.
When I bring all of my research to the table against an Obama supporter, they really do tend to look for black holes as they disappear all together or just reply with something that makes the case for them not knowing what they are talking about.
I donated to Hillary, then moved my donations to McCain the day Hillary suspended her campaign.
No politician should be treated the way Hillary was in terms of the nastiness of the Obama camp and the media.
Obama opened the door to the nasty and it should not be allowed to close just because Hillary is out of the race. What goes around needs to come right back around to Obama. Sorry how it will impact the kids but Michelle is right there in it with him and she is just as guilty as he is in using terrorist tactics, hate and racism to try to push Obama into the White House.
The sight of Obama and Michelle dancing after a victory over Hillary’s lose, to the music of JayZ, acknowledging that the bitch wasn’t his problem. No one has to wonder too much about Why that certain song was played over and over during primaries and caucus states.
Obama needs to be dealt a reality check.
As we saw during the DNC Denver meeting, he still hasn’t seen the light. I really wish Hillary and Bill would not react with positive messages about Obama every time he kicks them down, or spits in their face
Research has been my tool, because even if someone argues back to me, I always have another point to hammer home. I speak and write clearly. I can use facts and not clutter them with trash talk, tempting as it may be. But I will hold my ground. And come back point by point, until they have to make a point or go away.
Sure they will just come back with things like I’m racist or old etc., but in the mean time they have seen my message and so have a bunch of other people.
Pumapac and others are doing the same thing but on a larger scale, and are more out there than I am. Some people give speeches and others move around in the public talking to them, debating, confronting them.
Come back here for strength and team building, but I would also urge members to do any and all research, then go out into the world of message board and responded with knowledge and intelligence, forcing the trash talkers to make sense or back off.
I’ve noticed they have traded their attack style lately as they are adopting a pretend two or three way conversation in which they put down a Puma or McCain supporter, then pretend another person is backing them up, then try to fill up the board with these posts.
There is a bottom line here. Obama is a real misogynist as opposed to John McCain who has made some really stupid moves in his references to women. Obama really doesn’t like women. And he really hates Hillary.
I often refer to the Obama supporters as the exposed underbelly of Obama. They say for him what he cannot say out loud. They know it and he knows it. Difference is, he can pretend he doesn’t have anything to do with their views and distance himself from them, while his actions do not condemn those who say such things.
The Obama “camp” made it known that he disagreed with the lyrics of Ludacris’ song calling Hillary a bitch, and McCain should be paralyzed, among other things. Obama never said a word about it himself.
The Obama “camp” told us that he had said that he disapproved of what Bill Ayers did as a bomber/anarchist, but Obama never said anything himself.
The Obama “camp” discredited certain statements of the Rev. Wright, long before Obama could in fact, distance himself from the church and the Rev.
Then what did the Rev. Wright say? “Obama hasn’t changed what he believes, he just had to say so because he is a politician.”
All those people who are under the bus, are lying down willingly until they can get their man in office. Once in, they will roll back out from under the bus and expect Obama to pay them back. And he will. Because he has never stopped being one of them no matter what he says.
Obama is dealing with Daddy and Mommy issues that will never be overcome just by winning an election to the most powerful position in the world. Being President will not be enough for him. He has never actually “worked” any job. What he has done relentlessly, is build a base to get him to where he is today.
Obama carries the dreams from his father, but had to find new fathers to replace the one that was so disappointing. Teachers, a communist mentor/friend in Hawaii, Ayers in Chicago along with Rezko, and Soros. His own mother was a communist sympathizer in thought and belief.
Obama carries from his mother deeper hate and resentment than he will ever admit. But one telling statement in his book is that his mother seemed to be drawn to the wildness of dark men. (Don’t have my book next to me to get the exact quote.). Recall that his mother also sent him away to live with his grandparents while she and her new daughter stayed in Indonesia.
That had to be painful to a young boy who didn’t have a father. His half sister got to be with her two parents and he was taken out of the loop. No parents for him but he did have grandparents who really loved and cared for him…but it wan’t enough.
I recently read about the son of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, those anarchists that Obama says are just people in the neighborhood. Zayd said one of the hardest times was when his mother went to prison. Zayd also said that he had no idea why his parents thought or behaved as they did. He just knew that he really missed having his mom for that year.
That was one year of Zayd’s life that he lost with his mother and he recalls it strongly. Obama was away from his mother much longer. Both lost their mothers to political beliefs they could not understand.
Somehow Obama hopes to reconcile his history and his parents with his life by meeting all of the goals they failed to reach. There are better ways to do that than to take down a country pursuing a dream, that will ended up with the country being lead by all of those father’s Obama has followed for so long while they paid his way.
Now he has more people to appease.
If he had at any time done anything of significance, and drawn away from those forces that have paved his way, Then maybe he might be ready to be president. The sad fact is the man has not left a trail in all of his years in the State Senate or the U.S. Senate. Even in his law job he failed to do the basics of a lawyer, while writing his book on the job.
The laws he said he wrote were written by others. He has been given responsibility that he has consistently refused to live up to. Head of committees who never calls a meeting, goes to the bathroom when an important bill comes up for a vote, of just votes present.
Read his books and you will see that he says some of the things that his official campaign now says are false lies spread by Republicans or others. Obama said in both books that he went to the Muslim school in Indonesia. Why they portray that as untrue is a mystery.
Could not agree more with the people you know Murph, take some time off. Give yourself time to get back to your base and relax. No doubt you will come back more inspired. You have taken a lot of hit that were not deserved. Let it bounce off as you renew yourself. It strengthens the amour for battle.
Leading has brought you a lot of support. Leaders need rest and to take care of themselves.
Obama has his holidays. You get some also.
good morning pumas
MURPHY
to begin with a big THANK YOU, & the rest of pumas that worked hard with you for everything you done, for making this movement possible, for fighting for a political decency, decorum & respectability
It is my believe that you should relax a bit, because this past months had been extremely hectic, charge yourself with energy, we have to work until nov.
I did not expect anything better coming from this people
if their mentor comes from where he comes and he is proud of the kind of politics that is practiced
*** it is really interesting how it is not mention the frau, bc,cvr embellishment touch up , terrorist, radicals etc
they just are bullies,
what is going under way is a rabble uprising movement
I felt the need to put that in writing to make it clear for myself, those challenging me
Why we fight
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/why-we-fight/
MURPHY
I know you are tired, I could hear it in your voice on the radio show with Sherri. Rest, relax, regroup. You have put heart and soul into this group and it is truly a 24 hour a day job. We all need some downtime; unfortunately a bobot friend of mine has decided it’s time for warfare over our differences. I keep racheting it down and she keeps ramping it up. Just fear and frustration on her part I guess. but I’m convinced I’m winning the war of clever arguments.
Good Morning, Pumas. How horrible Murphy has had to endure all this hate, along with Diane and anyone who is against the “chosen one.” We are all eternally grateful for this website and all of Murphy’s hard work. I know she has worked countless hours, sometimes not even getting to bed. Take care Murphy and watch your back. I’m sorry you and your family are having to go thru all of this. Rest up and we’ll be here waiting for you.
Is anyone planning a Florida reunion?
Good Morning Murphy and PUMAS.
Murphy, you have certainly had your fill of idiots. Yes, idiots. I commend you for handling this blog so well. I probably would have had a few choice words for the obot supporters.
I found out this year that politics are not fun. There is corruption not only citywide, but nationwide. What a pity what our country has become.
I got very involved in politics in my hometown. I wish Sarah Palin was here to straighten out our city! Believe me, I did my best to expose the low lifes in town. (One of these days I’ll email you about it.)
I find that common sense is lacking in America. It’s lacking in my town. Instead of people working together to make things better, we have those who want to destroy everything they touch.
I for one hate corruption. The democratic “party” is over. This year I will support McCain and Palin. His choice of vp was OUTSTANDING! She will not take (bad word) from Washington! Just what we need. I love Hillary, but I love our country more!
And I just laugh when the news media say Palin is not experienced. Please….they can’t stand the thought that she can think on her own. If the day ever came that she would have to run our country, I’d support her decisions.
BTW, heard the PUMAS mentioned on X-radio yesterday afternoon. It was a good thing!
Bottom line, YOU Murphy have made a difference in our country! I am PROUD of you! You’ve had done what others can only talk about. I’m behind you 100%!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you to all the PUMAS who stood up for Murphy and went to Denver for us who couldn’t.
And obots…..we ARE looking for a change….and OBAMA is not it!
#37LAUREYPUMA You have to call the DNC and demand that you be taken off of their list. I had the same problem, no confirmation code. Tell them you are going to report them to the FCC. They stopped sending me e-mails.
#160 Dhyan
When I heard Hillary’s words in the speech that you quote, I thought they were directed to us who were fighting to make her the first woman president, but later I thought: you know I bet the African Americans thought she was talking to them about slavery and oppression and putting the first black person in the oval office. See how brilliant Hillary is and she sure knows her audience.
After Obama gets creamed, we will have to set up deprogramming stations for the Obamites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4IFSGIUFU
By the way, I’ve been up all night and at about 3am this morning I watched some of the Stephanie Tubbs Jones funeral, specifically the master at work, William Jefferson Clinton. Try to catch it today on C-span if they replay it. He had the mostly black audience members cheering him on. I was shocked but it seemed to be heartfelt.
#158 Bluejay I also have a problem with her environmental stances and also the listing of the polar bear. The polar bear should be endangered, not threatened. I contribute to Defenders of Wildlife and am against the aerial gunning of wolves in AK and WY. This is a concern for me. However, my son called me and told me to forget about everything, quit reading negative things about her, that our only goal was to rid the country of Obama, he must not be elected. If we vote McCain and then vote down dems all the way, McCain won’t be able to get the majority he needs to do any damage. It would be a big problem if one party had complete control and that is what I fear for Obama. He will put all those socialist programs into effect. I’m probably going to hold my nose but am still thinking about it.
Murphy..and ALL the other hard working PUMAS. The simple fact is:
WE HAVE and WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
What the hate comments show is that the opposition is running scared. They are using fear mongering to try to dissuade us from our position. I agree we have to regroup and reFOCUS. But fearmongering is not going to move us from our position.
WE’VE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE ABUSE. WE WILL FIGHT ON!!!
WE ARE STRONG, WE ARE DETERMINED, WE ARE PUMAS!!!!
Our voting bloc will continue to grow like wildfire….my prediction.
Murphy..thanks for your direction and guidance. One thing to keep in mind is that from what I have observed not all Pumas are democrats. Many on here who are ardent Hillary supporters are Idependents and also some have identified as Republicans…..but they support our cause. Keep that in mind.
Murphy,
Glad you shared and hope you have a well-deserved good night’s sleep.
I am not surprised. Don’t have to hang out on the blogs long to see how low the Obama fans will go.
I live in Obama stronghold and quickly realized I have to be a closet PUMA for my family. I couldn’t put my children at risk; they were already being harassed at school for being Hillary supporters. Quite frankly, scared for our safety.
I appreciate your courage and leadership and giving us this opportunity to fight for a bigger cause, the strength of our democracy: our right to vote and have our votes count. Apparently Obama never cared and our party seems to have forgotten. It is a sad day to see how low the Democratic Party has sunken, but have to hope that with all our efforts we can make it a party worth supporting once again.
Drastic change takes drastic measures. Hang in there and be safe.
MURPHY
WHAT SHOULD WE DO…I WILL GLADLY SEND REPLIES TO THESE TROLLS WITH A LOAD OF RETURN VENOM…BUT NOT SURE THATS THE PUMA TACTIC…WHAT DO U THINK? OR MAYBE RIGHT AFFTER THE MCCAIN WINS WE SEND OUT EMAILS THEN?
#177 BigCatLover I can’t talk to anyone about this because they are for the Party, sound like communism to me, you must vote the party. I can’t get into these discussions with my friends as it’s not worth it, you will never change their minds as we won’t change ours. I’m waiting for Obama to lose so I can tell them “I told you so.”
Gee Murphy, nice to know it is all your fault the world is in the condition it is
I was wondering who to blame.
All those remarks show that we are making a difference and people are afraid of us. If not, why bother to comment?
You have made a refuge for us and a place we can still have hope for our county. Together we are a force to be reckoned with and it scares both parties.
You gave birth to a new political stand and giving birth is hard.
You hang in there, I for one, am with you all the way.
#187 lizben08:
You know, many of these emails are coming from insite the Obama camp site.
Maybe Murphy should put out a Press Release about these “passionate” supporter’s behavior:
“PUMAS fear for their lives and families because of attacks from Hate-Filled Obama supporters, but press on.”
1) It exposes the extemist supporters closely alligned with Obama
2) It shows a pattern of how abusive they are and will go to any length to intimidate voters
3) It points to how Obama endorses this kind of behavior like he did all throughout the primaries and will do in the general election, by failing to rid his campaign, blog and pundits of these kind of hate-filled extremists.
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They scream: racists, bitter women, etc, closet republicans…
…We scream back: Social Terrorists against democracy, women, and the right to exercise our own vote!
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What about hitting back with exposing them to the Press – and to the Country – for their extremist acts of voter intimidation tactics – and that this is what a huge segment of Obama followers are – Extremists with frighteningly terroristic characteristics.
Obama speaks of “PEACE”, “UNITY” and “BRINGING PEOPLE AND FOREIGN NATIONS TOGETHER” yet organizes and leads an army of supporters in spreading propaganda, committing abusive, harassing, and intimidating acts against American Voters to suppress their votes.
Put it in the E !!!!
Morning 
Good morning my friends,
I must say I am not surprised to read the messages of hate posted by Murphy today. I could not read them all, being too disgusted to go on…
But I want to tell You, Murphy and others, that I understand how moved you may feel, how unbearable it may be to be the object of personal attacks, you and your family, but you must not let yourselves be intimidated ! This is what they are aiming at ! Don’t let them win… Don’t forget that when someone resorts to personal attacks, it is because he or she has nothing else to say. They have no arguments to defend their cause. So it proves one thing : YOUR MOVEMENT HAS CERTAINLY BECOME POWERFUL ! Otherwise, they would not bother to send you such messages. They are afraid of you, of the consequences of your movement for their candidate. They have understood you could make him lose in November. So they want to stop you now, before it is too late…
Moreover, I’ve seen that a lot of those insults are calling the Pumas “fascists” : it is clear that those Obamamaniacs ignore the definition of this word : “belongs to a movement or regime which stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader”. It often means the cult of personality of this leader. So do you see what I mean ? Who is fascist, really ?
Finally, let me send this message of Support to all the Pumas who live in the states currently threatened by hurricane Gustav.
I will keep my fingers crossed in future days, hoping it won’t hit you and there won’t be another katrina in New Orleans, as people have hardly recovered yet. I hope they won’t have to suffer another time. For all the people who live in those states, we are watching all this very carefully from France and praying for you…
Mornin
#192 TexasTigress
GOT ME!
Hey , Pumas , in all honesty , I really think we have let up on the press too much . Many of the pundits are saying they are getting lots of e-mails from women who are saying exactly what the bots are saying on their site about Palin . I think we should do some press prowls today . I am not awake enough to write to the MSM yet , but maybe after some more coffee ….:)
QUESTION: I WONDER IF WHAT THESE HATE-FILLED OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE DOING NOW IS HOW WILLIAM AYERS AND THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND STARTED… IS THAT WHY WILLIAM AYERS AND OBAMA ARE JOINED AT THE WAIST… BIRDS OF A FEATHER, FLOCK TOGETHER?
I just now found this posting on ABC News blogging a story. It shows Palin as a real nice woman. this is real good story.
I recently was a computer technician for the State of Alaska. Before that I was a full time Alaska Army National Guardsman. I had the honor of meeting Gov Sarah Palin once. I was the driver for the Dep of Military and Veterans Affairs’ management (directors, commish, etc). They had me drop them off at the capitol building to meet with their newly elected governor and they invited me to sit in on the meet and greet. I have to say that Gov Palin is a very good communicator by the fact that she really listens to you when you are talking. During the meeting she had to step out for a five minute prior arrangement. We continued our briefing with her chief of staff. She returned and apologized for the interuption. She had promised her youngest daughter that no matter if she became the governor or not she would still take the time to pick her up at the bus stop after school. That of course doesnt come from a power hungry politician. This is the kinda rare person that you run across at school or work once or twice in your life and you say to them, “Someone like you should be the President.” That person emits such an honest quality about them…caring yet very strong. The person we wish all our leaders would be. And of course they always just grin and say, “Me, President? Yeah, right.” But now’s our chance to have that kinda person in the White House, at least as OUR Vice President of the United States of America.
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I agree TexasTigress, I try to blog on other sites throughout the day. I am so proud of this site and all it represents. We have every right to our opinion and our decision to vote the way we feel. Of course that means we are racist, stupid, old and I don’t know what else, maybe the anti-christ. I am not wild about voting for a Rep. either, but I am taking a stand against all the cheating and pushing for OB that went on during the primaries.
I think our country needs to know that people now have a way to group together to make a difference.
I wonder if we shouldn’t take these emails and post them on my myspace, friendster, facebook and other “connecting” sites in their blog and comments sections. Then these people (as their email addresses are included) would have the pleasure (like Murphy did) of having their inboxes flooded with hate mail. I know that isn’t the RIGHT way to respond to this but it sure if darn tempting!!!
#196 TexasTigress:
["I am not awake enough to write to the MSM yet , but maybe after some more coffee …."]
I bought one of those “4-cup” coffee makers – not thinking, of course, of my 12oz coffee mugs. Now I have to make 4 POTS of coffee…
Morning PUMAS
Funny, I recieved a Palin campaign email as I have not signed on for anything for the McCain website. Could it be that a certain campaign forwarded my info? That’s OK. I haven’t decided yet, it will likely be at the point I pull the lever on Nov 4. One thing is certian, it will NOT be for XO/Biden.
I have been thinking about all PUMAS and HRC supporters so much these past few days. I am lighting candles throughout this holiday weekend for so many reasons.
One will be for Murphy, that you take the rest and relaxation necessary, be with your family, have fun and time off from all of this. We are all so grateful to you.
One will be for all of our PUMAS that are in the path of Gustav, many now evacuating, that they will be safe and their families are in secure areas and homes survive the storm.
One will be for all PUMAS that struggle with with all that has happened. Emotions are on such a roller coaster right now. Our our love for our country brought us here and we will support each other.
One for the surviving Gwatney family as they are grieving loss and need to begin to heal.
One for Stephanie Tubbs Jones and her surviving family for thier loss as well.
And yes, one for the BOTs as so many carry such hate. Hate has no power. It is so destructive to a human’s soul. I pray that we maintain our resolve and goals as our efforts against the DNC , fighting for our democracy may also result to help overcome and potentially heal , even if it is only some, of their hearts as well.
wontbackdown – I would die ! I really need one of those commercial ones with multi pots so I always have a full pot !! lol
#197 wontbackdown on 08.31.08 at 8:57 am QUESTION: I WONDER IF WHAT THESE HATE-FILLED OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE DOING NOW IS HOW WILLIAM AYERS AND THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND STARTED… IS THAT WHY WILLIAM AYERS AND OBAMA ARE JOINED AT THE WAIST… BIRDS OF A FEATHER, FLOCK TOGETHER?
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YES. This is what we are going to hear from the Black Gangs & Druggies on the South Side of Chicago. I know I grew up in Chicago. You can not drive through the south side without risking your life. I have been attacked in a locked car and had to run the red light to escape. gangs and more gangs. community leader of gangs.
They all hate white people. Michelle hates white people. read her college thesis. She is angry with black people who integrate into the white community. Michelle believe they should remain part of the Black community and fight the white people. This is war for them. They do not welcome Hillary supporters because they have that street fighter mentality.
These people will not be happy until all white people are dead. That is the central thesis of Black Liberation Theology. God and Jesus are black and God and Jesus what all white people dead as oppressors of black people. remember when a white person oppresses black he is oppressing god and jesus. It is all crazy. It comes from the Slums. You cannot have millions of people in slums and not expect communism and radicalism to grow. radicalism has festered in the black slums for decades or a century.
Look I do not blame these people. we need to help them over their anger issues. but it is not going to happen with a black president. they will not be satisfied. Islamist will not be satisfied until the world is all islam. it is all a result of overpopulation also. over populations causes people to come into contact with each other and to fight each other. we must solve the over population problem.
Hillary is white establishment. that is exactly who they blame for all their problems and who they hate with a passion for decades. Obama has brought out that hatred. they worked with Hillary but now the hatred has been stoked like a wildfire by Obama. He is not a joiner. he is a chicago slum street fighter. kick and kill while he is down and dirty.
The impression that the majority of the msm is putting out about the Hillary supporters is that they are enraged and insulted by Mcs veep pick . Cambell brown was especially emphatic when she was going over her e-mails that women are absloutely rejecting Palin . She was reading some of them and it was word for word what the bots were posting on the Obama site . it really pissed me off that I didn’t think to immediatly prowl the press as soon as MC announced his pick – now I think we are a little bit behind and need to gain some ground … Pumas don’t really care for the media telling us what we think and what we will do …
Murphy, I am so sorry you have been subjected to these rude, stupid, haters, low lifes, etc etc. Do you want us Puma’s to open up a can of whoop as@ on them???
#203 TexasTigress…
YEAH! Already hooked up to a water line, with a robotic arm that cleans the filter, puts in a new one and pushes the button to restart – and even pours it for us… then all we have to do is stumble over and hold our cup out!
204 GoHillaryGo – I think your statements are very general and seperatist . I would not be proud to see your post copied and pasted up on the evening news as being representative of what Pumas feel .
#205 TexasTigress:
Do you think they really that gah, gah over nah, nah? Or, is it just the thought of a woman “running the country”?
209 wontbackdown I think they are scared to death that MCs pick will has sealed their fate and xo will lose the GE . I think they are going to try to destroy Palin …
204 GoHillaryGo
While you may feel this way based on your personal experience, I think you should request Murphy remove your posting. It doesn’t send an appropriate (or PUMA like – see the PUMA rules & values) message to the community that is reading this blog. I think they will view it as seperatist.
Sorry meant to say – I view it as seperatist. Only one cup of coffee so far
212 FLgayGuy4Hill You have to catch up – wbd has creadted us a new coffee machine that is completely automated – just put your head under the tap !
#204 GoHillaryGo:
WHEW! I know there are fractions like you describe in Obama’s supporter base, but there are a lot of whites also doing this extremist, bashing bit.
As I said in # 209… I am really beginning to wonder if a lot of it is truly some kind of “systemic conditioning” about – against – “a woman running the country”?
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#212 FLgayGuy4Hill: Wish I could serve you another cup… but that darn new 4 cupper of mine is wearing me out! The box it came in made it look so much bigger. But when I opened it, it looked like the size of a mini-bean grinder. WTH?
213 TexasTigress :
Oh fantastic – I can replace the auto vodka dispencing machine I bought for use while I watched the democratic national convention.
created – damn – I am just going to hire Juan Valdez to start an iv on me !
#205 TexasT
I have heard that from a few people; not upset he picked women. A ‘pro-life’ women. I am finding more and more HRC anti-bo supporters running to bo. A few have told me, he should have picked a pro-choice man or women if wanted us. I think we will be hearing more and more of this.
#213 TexasTigress:
“creadted”… that’s how they spell it in the “E”.
FLgayGuy4Hill – LOL – wayyyyyyy 2 early for vodka – but I wish I would have thought of that vodka dispenser early last week !!!!
I wish someone could give us a really good “legal tutorial” on what it would actually take to overturn a surpreme court ruling like Roe V Wade. I mean; is it really just as easy as the Obama camp make it sound??? I can’t imagine it is.
Murphy – Being demonized for your beliefs is nothing new. I remember back in the 1960′s receiving annonymous notes and threatening phone calls because of being active in the MA campaign of a Democrat the Kennedys didn’t like. As a long-time MA resident you might be able to assemble the pieces if I say that the FBI investigated the process following the election (and my candidate lost) and determined that he had not been guilty of any wrong-doing. But I digress . . . it was a very upsetting time, turned me off politics until Chisholm ran.
Most of the Obots, at least those that are unpaid, are disenfranchised unhappy people. They want to receive some of the financial benefits to which they feel entitled but have eluded them. They actually believe that if Obama is elected the country will redistribute it’s wealth and their futures will become rosier. One consolation ( if Obama does win the election ) is that the Obots will be no better off than they are today and will have Obama to blame.
217 hillfan4mccain – I understand – It’s a complex issue , and that is why I think it is so important to be conscious of our down ticket votes …
Daily HeadlinesNYDailyNews.com/headlines DAILY NEWS
Home Headlines
Mayor Nagin orders evacuation of New Orleans
Haunted by memories of Katrina’s wrath, the people of the Big Easy fled Hurricane Gustav Saturday, lining up for buses and jamming the roads ahead of an ordered 8 a.m. evacuation.
Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law uncertain about how she’ll vote
Sarah Palin’s hometown rallied around her as mayor – now Republicans wonder if the rest of America will warm up to the surprise pick from cold country.
I have been in here blogging as the obamanites trash Sarah Palin
Interesting reading, esp. when you first wake up…too bad they couldn’t have posed some of these thoughts in a civil manner because we could have had an interesting and productive intellectual discussion.
Now I’m watching This Week and they’re ripping into Palin – that she doesn’t have the experience to be a heartbeat away from the president. And how can she do a good job having to take care of all those children? Are these guys for real? Oh, and one of them said that BO had more foreign policy experience than Palin because of the trip he took to Iraq and Europe…
Just this illogic of the MSM makes me want to go live in Canada.
PS George Will is and has always been the lone voice of reason…
OMG Just saw John Kerry on This Week with Stephanopoulus. He has become a caricature of himself. Offensively abusive toward Sarah Palin. Mocked her as best choice to step in as Pres. God, I wish someone had mentioned Kerry’s own pick for VP…the philandering Breck girl.
The mysoginy is now revealed for all to see
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/not-anti-women-only-that-woman-oh-and-that-other-one-too/
Murphy Murphy Murphy
Grandpa here – you inspire me so greatly.
How do I begin this post – I guess by saying I have learned in 86 years of life that nothing happens by accident or chance – there is a reason for everything in this Universe – I truly believe that people are put on this earth to directly get involved with each other in our own circle – you were not an accident – we all needed someone like you to come along to bring us all together – I never in my life thought that I would be talking to my friends about my new friend Delphine from France, Trish from Canada, Murphy that is making a change in the Democratic process for us all, Maryland Puma, Mama Puma, all the names you mentioned in your post – its like I know and love you all and what a difference you have made in each others lives – times when we had to have each other to make it through another day – I believe that Puma has made a difference even in those lives that have not figured it out yet but will – as a Male I feel exceptional being with “the bitter gun totin’ Hillary Clinton females” and being encouraged to continue being with you – to attempt to continue to make a change in the biased media and we will – watch and see – all of these things that people have put up with either knowlingly or not was not by chance – we were the ones that they were not expecting – never give up – fight for our kids and grandkids – they deserve better –
I am so glad that I have had the experience to grow with you all – now I can set aside the phrase that has been thrown at me for decades – YOU CAN teach an old dog new tricks – and I have learned so much from each and every one of you that inspires me to live long enough to see a woman make it to the Presidency —–
Sorry for rambling – I have tried to stop that lately.
#222 TexasT- I have trying to explain to my friends about the issue and so on. They are scared of roe being overturned regardless. I just cant believe how quickly I am losing my Hill supporters.
They just said that “We still don’t know BO”. Of course we know him. People are looking for something that doesn’t exist and because they can’t find it they keep saying they don’t know him. What we see is what he is – not much.
220 FLgayGuy4Hill on – an important thing to remember is considering that situation is the appointment of justices to the SC . Justices have to be approved . Which is why those down ticket votes are sooooo important . Also , there is precident and Justice Roberts has stated the importance of that . Further , Roe v wade addresses the right to privacy , and a lot of people have a false impression of what the origional decision dictated . It is much more complex than simply allowing abortions and therefore NOT easily overturned … Clear as mud right ? Well , I tried – more coffee please !
#217 hillfan4mccain:
Having a huge influx of “democrats voting for a republican” is not a bad thing at all.
I have know a woman who has been a “democratic republican” activist most of her adult life. She says that being registered as a republican and pushing for issues that are more “democratic” from inside the republican party has made more of a difference on many local and state issues than the public knows. She says there are a lot more “party infilitrators” on both sides than the general public knows about.
TexasTigress would probably know more about it than me.
FLgayGuy4Hill
For anyone who uses the argument that the republicans will overturn RvW – its been around since ’72 (?) and how many republican administrations have we had?
hillfan4mccain I wold explain that the veep doesn’t appoint justices , and then I would tell them to vote down ticket dems so that MC can’t get a justice approved that may have a r. v. w. agenda . Thirdly I would send them to this site in order to relieve their concerns and give them a plan of action if they want to protest what happened in the primaries .
#205 TexasT
Don’t forget, McCain picked her not just for ex Hillary supporters, but he also needed to mollify the conservative republicans who feel he’s not conservative enough. And he also wants to reach out to small town America. She was the best to speak to all three bases.
I have one friend, a Hillary supporter who was turned off by Palin and who now says she’s vote for BO as the lesser of two evils. Another friend didn’t want to vote for BO but didn’t want to vote for McCain. When he picked Palin, she thought that that was a brilliant move and now is voting for them, because says that indicates to her that despite his views, he’s a master politician…
FLgayGuy4Hill:
I do now that the R v W is rooted in the “right to privacy” and would take more than a “republican presidential administration” to overturn it.
The complexity is more about how practice of abortion has attached itself to R v W “right to privacy” and that is why so many conservatives want it abolished.
All-
I have so much appreciated all of your wonderful words of support. I will say this, I am not a leader type but a follower. Even so, I am not a fool follower either. Never have been one to “follow the crowd”. I am thankful for each person who IS a leader here! And I know by reading and listening to you all, that I will follow where ever P.U.M.A. & Murphy leads, because you lead with your hearts and not just your ideals. I am 30 years old, and know that women can lead, I have grown up with it. School has always been filled with more Women teachers. And those Women Teachers Lead their classes!
Hillary came along ans showed me that indeed women could do more in the role of “First Lady” than just smiling and waving or look pretty for their Husbands. Then she got into the Senate and again, just didn’t sit quietly voting “Yea, or Nay”. She fought for her ideals and beliefs. And during the 6th year of the reign of Bush I had this wonderful notion that Hillary would run for President and thought “Wow, that would be so awesome” as she has been such a strong leader.
Well she didn’t get her party’s nomination after being trashed by the media and Obots. She was smeared and bullied along the way.
And another Woman leader arose that won my respect: Murphy. She decided that she would not sit back and allow the DNC, Obamatrons, nor the MSM to treat Hillary like they did. She would not sit idly by while the DNC Bullied the delegates, Steal an election, and tear down a wonderful leader like Hillary. So yes, I have chosen to follow another leader. But this leader has good intentions and means well. She deserves many accolades for putting up with the snarky and insulting postings of the Obamorons. Lead the way Murphy and I will do my best to stop worrying and doubting so much.
P.U.M.A’s stand united and let’s show the DNC what happens when you ignore voters! Stand with Murphy as she leads the way! *ROAR*
**HUGS** to all PUMAS & Murphy Let’s stay strong!
FOR EVERYONE IN THE PATH OF THE STORM….PLEASE STAY SAFE!!!!!
#37 LaureyPuma. Me too. Trying to unsubscribe did no good, just got put on one of those viagra spam lists instead. (I’m fairly certain of it as the email address the DNC has is used rarely and not “out there”.) Anyway, I called the DNC and had my email removed manually. They claimed it would take 7-10 days, but it seemed to work immediately (I was pissed and let them know it).
Texaspony – now that is what I am talking about – read last nights post and was a little worried about you – but you have bounced back and full of energy – see you can do it and what a difference each day makes – we all have to take it one day at a time – one day in politics equals a lifetime – proud of you.
Rasmussen reports today only 3 percent over McCain – just wait – in a week this will all be the other direction.
Now off to take care of the grand pumas – they must have their exercise -
Keep out the trolls and Obamabots of our site . These people are sick and so is their candidate.
Morning everyone!
Happy to see that both threads are goin strong. Should help with the overloading of one thread!
Remember to stay focused – we continue our fight for democracy – of the people, by the people, for the people.
Storms intermittent from here on out today in my area so internet may be a little wiggy for me. I’ll be around – I have to make room for all the Denver goodies in my house so I can make them available to YOU.
Peace and Power
Maryland PUMA
I wouldn’t vote based on someone’s anatomy anymore than I would vote for someone based on skin color!
Wow, I’m having fun looking up these kooks by their email address here is sraymond7
“55, Professional Male Relocating, want short-term sublet (Monterey/Carmel)
Reply to: sraymond7@earthlink.net [?]
Date: 2008-08-23, 12:33AM PDT
Hello, I am a married, homeowner in Los Angeles, doing advance scouting in Monterey area for our eventual move. I will be on my own, wife to visit perhaps one weekend per month. Nonsmoker, responsible. I am there with the focus of developing new business or employment opportunities so I can finally leave Los Angeles after being here for 28 years. (Originally from Maine.) I am an administrative type in healthcare. Prefer to be in Monterey/Carmel. The ideal for me would be a furnished room in an established home where I can use the kitchen and have a private bath. I am trying to contain my costs during this transition period, so I would not want to rent an entire house. I’d like to keep my monthly rent to $1000 max. I would not want to enter a guaranteed agreement for more than six months, and I would like to start in October. Alternatively, a minimally furnished studio apartment would be just fine.
Location: Monterey/Carmel
it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 809006567 (craigs list)
#227
I usually skim over posts that are wordy, however the wisdom you wrote – well it struck me. So calm, happy and confident. I like it.
With folks like all of us. How can we not prevail. We are really not “fighting” anyone. We are doing what’s right and others are viewing that as adversarial
So for the bad karma posts, well I am rubber they are glue… you know the rest
Good morning Pumas! Last night was a wild night on the Greta Wire Blog. Greta wanted to know if PUMA was REAL? Well, I must say that there isn’t a day that goes by that I’m not as proud as can be to be a Puma and be a friend of Murphy’s and all the Pumas. There were many Pumas posting on Greta’s blog letting Greta know that “Yes we are real” and we will not be voting for Obama. I went a few rounds with “whats-his-name” for spewing his venom about the money that Murphy collected from our donations. I finally let the other bloggers know that he was kicked off of the Puma Blog because of his insane remarks and his intense, unbelievable, jealousy of Darragh, a woman who stands up for her own beliefs and the beliefs of others. He then admitted he was kicked out of PumaPac and tried to give his reasons why he was kicked out but by then the other bloggers started to make fun of him because he couldn’t stand up against women. He made a fool of himself and I loved it!
#204 Go HillaryGO,
I know what ya mean about Chicago,I used to live there as a kid,Got chased home from school almost every day GANGS are BAD there,Got tired of it and Fought back,they left me alone. We Pumas will just have to fight back,with WORDS.
Good Morning PUMA’s.. I am logging in to give an udate on the Hurricane. I will not be on my conference call until 10:30 a.m. but I am passing what I know this AM. I will be working throughout this disaster and into recovery. I f you ilve in Louisiana, your emegency number is 866-288-2484. As you know New Orleans has started evacuations. For information go to http://emergency.louisiana.gov/releases/evacuations.html
For Texas.. if you live in Jefferson, Hardin and Orange counties you need to evacuate immediatly. If you need any information dial 2-1-1. They can give you shelter information and more!! If you need road condition information call 800-452-9292.
More updates after my conference call. Please if you know anyone in these areas, please make sure they are evacuating. This storm is going to be very dangerous.
Be safe PUMA’s!!
nativegirl
sorry for the typo’s trying to do to many things!!!
HA HA – I swear Murphy and I are psychically connected – last night we both posted threads at the same time and I just went to help her out by editing the Free for All thread and she’s editing it. Thank goodness for the warning on the moderator board. LOL
Murphy,when you feel like taking a small vacation,Come to NC.I have a nice camper in a great resort On the Lake,rest relax,fish,Boating,It won’t cost ya a thing.I really mean It. we would love to have ya.
(((((((((BIG HUG))))))))) Thanks for all ya do.
#220 FLgayGuy4Hill on 08.31.08 at 9:35 am I wish someone could give us a really good “legal tutorial” on what it would actually take to overturn a surpreme court ruling like Roe V Wade. I mean; is it really just as easy as the Obama camp make it sound??? I can’t imagine it is.
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For now it is IMPOSSIBLE. One supreme court judge said they will not even review it again for a long time. they reviewed it recently and are not willing to do so again. have no fears. it will not be overturned. It is just too well intrenched to be overturned. I believe women are being manipulated by the Dems to get their votes.
If there is a serious attempt to over turn women will rise up. have no fear. women getting more respect by both parties is the best defense against any attemp to over turn. with respect they will not disrespect.
fighting for respect for all women is the most important item to fight for NOW. all women means we need to support Sarah Palin as a woman even if we do not vote for her. we must demand respect for her and for all women. that is good for us.
We have the opportunity to talk about Palin in 2 ways. her poliltical issues and her as a human being and woman. we can disagree with her political opinions but we must fight for her to be respected as a human being and woman.
I do not agree with her on abortion and some other issues but I like her and know if she is elected it will be very good for all women in America and the world. I will vote for her with PRIDE and disagree with her on abortion but I will disagree with full dignity and respect for her opinion and for her as a person.
I can respect her position. She carried a down syndrome child to birth. She could have aborted. If we are to support freedom of choice then we must give Palin the love represented by giving her freedom of choice in her view on abortion. I do not see any indication that Sarah Palin would take away your freedom of choice. She simply applies her belief in her own personal life. that is as it should be.
NativeGirl, NewOrleansPUMA, and all those on the Gulf Coast
PLEASE be safe and know that you are in our thoughts. We will keep the homeblog burning until your return.
If you find you are in need at the conclusion, please let me know and I’m sure ALL PUMAS would be more than happy to help. Please email me when you can so I can give you my phone number to keep our members updated on your status.
Love to you all.
MarylandPUMA
I read the DNC is going to target anyone who speaks out against bo in the way Murphy describes. Folks, we are a group that is not afraid to take action, and we are a group that honors the laws of our country. Let’s remember that violating informational privacy acts is illegal. The DNC and obots seem to think they are above the law. They may need to be reminded that they aren’t. Most are very young and it would be a shame for them to have a criminal record for the rest of their lives simply because they were misguided by bo and the DNC.
I responded to troll in post at clintondemocrats: I will vote for McCain because
1)He is closer to Hillary philosophically than what I believe are BHO’s TRUE leanings-not the new BHO image.
2)Party FRAUD and Disenfranchising my vote.3)Country Before Party-I will not be taken for granted unless it’s for my country-not for Party.
4)He has shown the COURAGE to choose a woman because she’s a person compatible to his beliefs and best for the country.
#239 Goalucard4Hill-
Thanks for your comments!
I do try!
Good morning everyone, I was listening to fox news this morning and something struck . They said McCain and Palin ditching their pre-convention plans and visit people in Mississippi bracing for deadly Hurricane Gustav. Then they said BO called on the phone and was talking to leaders down there. So what struck me was BO that is what he does he talks he gives speeches that is my major concern with him talk talk talk, but shows no action just a bunch of words. When Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin(for example) is causing problems or up to no good is BO gonna give him a good talking too.
I am one of the original Reagan Democrats coming from a large family of Reagan Democrats, all now solid Republicans.
We did not have a catchy little name like PUMA, and we maybe crossed over that November long ago for different reasons, But by God I welcome with open arms any PUMAS we can get this November.
#245 GoOhioLady
You are awesome. Thank you, and the other PUMAs, who rise to the defense of our PAC and our members.
It brings tears to my eyes to know how dedicated our members are to the cause and to each other, even in the face of such disdain and outright slander by others.
We knew this was coming, just as we knew the faux roll call vote would crown the selected.
Everyone stay safe and vigilant. The battle will get more ferocious and desperate but . . .
“We SHALL overcome.”
#245 Yeah-I was there! Thanks for taking care of that misfit!
Murphy, my heartfelt support and appreciation for everything you do/endure. You answered the call when the universe tapped you on the shoulder and said PUMAPAC, NOW. You are doing a remarkable job. Much thanks to you, mommapuma, and Marylandpuma for your leadership.
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PRINCIPES BEFORE PARTY—excellent post over at HLF http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
Thank God for justsaynodeal and Heidili coming in the Greta blog as i was trying to stop all the horrible things NotFallingInLine was saying about us and i have not been to bed all night.
For anyone else working on ballot challenges . jbjd set up a blog to answer questions.
Per jbjd’s email….
Please post any unanswered questions there, and I will respond on the blog. Also, because I am in contact with more than one person in several of these states, please identify your state prominently at the top of your question. Remember, these election laws are state-specific. And remember, these challenges are time-sensitive.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
jbjd
Post Script: I am in the process of posting answers to questions already submitted, on the blog.
Hey, Murphy!
First, you have done us proud … well done!
Second, I cannot access the comments. Permission denied because of unsufficient authorization.
I made sure we were defended but i can’t keep my eyes open
Murphy:
I received your email about the New Democratic Party…sounds interesting and appropriate given the mess that has transpired over the Undemoctatic Party these months.
I am interested because at my core, I feel Democratic and don’t really believe that I truly want to “cross the line” permanently.
However, my PROTEST vote is a strong one this year. Despite Gov. Palin’s personal views on certain issues I am PROUD to see finally, SOMEONE took the CHANCE on giving a woman the chance to shine. (even though I know there were a lot of underlying reasons for the pick).
Without question….McCain will get my vote. Most of my family are voting for him and ALL are definitely no BO. I always believe that if I notice something is BROKEN, I don’t necessarily just throw it out, I want to find out why it broke, and can I fix it or prevent it from breaking again. So I agree on trying to remedy the PROBLEMS that led to the debacle this year with this election.
It will be a LARGE TASK to accomplish because I believe there were a multitude of reasons for the failure of the DNC and ultimately HRC in this election. Gov. Palin is already being subjected to one large reason why HRC’s campaign began its decline.
I support Human Rights, Women’s Rights, Democratic Rights. My focus for the remainder of these 88 days will be to:
* MAKE SURE I SPREAD THE WORD….BO IS WRONG FOR THIS COUNTRY, and the DNC/ONC was WRONG WRONG WRONG for what they pulled off.
*Protest vote for McCain to ensure no favor goes to BO in the election, and possibly vote down ticket for any Democrate worthy of getting reelected.
* Then afterwards decide how to get involved with political reform groups.
Anyone who expects to continue with a forum such as this one, as well as many others, where people can SPEAK FREELY about their beliefs, OPENLY DISSENT, and GATHER peacefully on issues they want to speak out on BETTER D— WELL PRAY THAT THE BO ORGANIZATION DOESN’T WIN. Your freedom to dissent as you now enjoy to some degree will NOT be the same. No ‘New Democratic Party, only the ObamaNC’. You can count on that! There will not be the same censorship if the GOP takes office.
The writing (of censorship) is already on the wall, we have experienced its uguly head in every format!!!!!! The big focus now…PROTEST VOTE FOR McCain!
Sorry, I could not read your spam letters….too negative. I know you feel burdened with them……Let them flow out into the blogosphere…(but always keep copies).
If there are local organizing groups that are PROTESTING the election could you let us know perhaps as one of your headers instead of within the blogs?
Happy last summer days to you and family…Take care of yourself.
8 a.m. here and i am going to bed nite (((PUMAS)))
good night Sandi, I saw you over at Greta’s, we kicked (_!_)
LOL i got peeved at Notfallinginline geesh plus earlier i was in the NYpost blog as they were trashing Palin
((((HUGS)))) ZZZZZZZZZZZZ eyes closing
sandipuma, I am Democrat Baby Boomer over at Greta’s
“A Long Time Coming
This Is for all Women of the World
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
We’d like to ask LADIES ONLY to leave comments in our comment section on this video….thank you so much.
Good morning,
I checked in last night and didn’t thank Murphy for all the work she does. Thanks again Murphy! I saw you on “Hardball” last week (I don’t watch MSM, but I was at a friend’s house) and you were great. In reference to e-mails, thanks for putting up with all the abuse. I don’t think I could. I do think that I’ve lost a few friends because I have chosen to stand by my beliefs, but I don’t regret it. They will regret that they didn’t have the strength to stand up to BO and his corrupt bullies.
Also, I believe gina613 pointed out last night that we shouldn’t allow the McCain campaign to attack HC. I would agree. I also find it really disgusting that the Democrats are using HC to try to get votes. Note: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/opinion/30collins-.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin My hope is that HC and BC take a well-deserved vacation for the next few months. It’s BO who has to campaign from now on, not them.
I don’t think it is alright to go after Sarah Palin either in the rabid way the Democrats have been doing. It’s McCain who is running for president. What happened to the debates between McCain and BO? BO keeps saying no to them. I hope they start debating right after the Rep convention.
I’m still not voting for BO.
Look forward to reading people’s comments this morning. It looks like it is mostly regulars and few trolls. Maybe they don’t get up early on Sundays. Hee Hee
Have a great day,
Lara08
PUMAs – the trolls are in a frenzy in the dungeon. If you haven’t heard it yet – you will – WE are the reason the faux nominee will LOSE this election.
After reading the boards for the last couple days, I do need to reiterate that the PAC is prohibited by law for endorsing ANY candidate.
We are an inclusive, not exclusive, movement. We are fighting to restore democracy as our founding fathers intended it. We are fighting against the misogyny and sexism and media bias that seriously crippled Senator Clinton’s presidential run and insulted women around the world.
There are many different viewpoints on why McCain selected Palin, and many of us will choose different paths when we walk into that polling place on November 4. However, McCain’s choice does not NEGATE or NULLIFY what HAS happened in the Democratic Party. The corruption and intimidation has NOT yet become evident in the Republican party’s democratic process.
My thoughts, on a personal level, NOT as a PAC representative, are this:
1) November is still 6 weeks away. We must continue our fight to expose the corruption of the DNC and the Democratic Party in the primary process. We must continue to vet and expose the Selected. IT IS NOT OVER. WE ARE STILL NOBAMA.
2) We take this to the down-ticket Dems by sending them this very clear message – if you voted against your constituency, we will throw our efforts behind your Democratic opponent. If you were “purchased” by the O campaign, we will find it and expose you.
3) We take down the sexist and misogynistic media – because we can be sure that the missles they shot at Senator Clinton will be redirected toward Senator Palin. This is NOT to say that I am a Republican, I am not, but I am damn sick and tired of the implication that a woman can not be successful at ALL things she chooses to pursue simultaneousy – a successful MOM, successful WIFE, successful CAREERWOMAN, successful spokesperson for the PEOPLE, a coach, a nurse, a therapist, etc. Women are physiologically built to be natural multi-taskers and are QUITE successful at it. How dare anyone question our loyalty or devotion to ANY of the hats we wear.
3) We cover the polling stations and spread the word that you DO have a place to go where we are of like minds – it is OBVIOUS that the Democratic Party has hijacked the democratic process.
In short – regardless of your choice in November – OUR WORK IS NOT DONE. Let’s get busy PUMAs.
#272 john, left a comment – “WE ARN’T DONE YET!”
I was reading through the post and I came across this one #26 andy85719 from last nite I was so disgusted I am going to send this out to all the media and demand this be reported, I don’t care how you feel about another group one does not take pleasure in a horrible thing like a hurricane that is sick and should be addressed, if anyone else feels as sick as I am please send a letter to the media and make this report this or be aware of this . This man owns millions a apologize for his sick humor.
I Never Called Hillary ‘She Devil,’ Chris Matthews Says
There’s no doubt that “Hardball” host Chris Matthews used the expression “she devil” when talking about Hillary Clinton — but he insists he never called her that.
On the Nov. 18 telecast of the NBC-syndicated “Chris Matthews Show,” the host discussed Republican attacks on Hillary, who was then the Democratic presidential front-runner.
“She devil?” he said, “Republicans are absolutely demonizing Hillary Clinton.”
While he spoke, an image of Hillary appeared on screen with the words “She Devil?” below it. Later, an image of Clinton with devil horns appeared on screen.
Paul Bedard observed in U.S. News & World Report’s “Washington Whispers” column that Matthews, who has been mulling a run for the Senate in 2010, was “concerned he ruined it with the women vote.”
But Matthews now tells Bedard: “I never called her a she devil . . . You can see it is where we introduce the topics to the show.”
He claims Media Matters for America took the expression out of context.
“This stuff has been cooked up,” he said.
Media Matters spokesman J. Jioni Palmer retorted that Matthews has a pattern of “sexist comments.”
Matthews’ mouth got him into trouble back in February 2007 when he used “the f-word” while referring to President Bush’s ranch during an appearance on the “Imus in the Morning” show.
This past January he stirred up protests when he said the reason Hillary was a senator and candidate for president “is that her husband messed around.”
Feminist leader Gloria Steinem and the heads of four prominent women’s groups complained in a letter to his boss that Matthews had shown a pattern of sexism.
Oh drat – correction – Governor Palin. I was fired up! LOL
Great to watch Fred Thomson bash CNN folks on age, experience questions etc.
Thank you so much normapuma for that comment on the blog.
Ladies we would like to hear from you ALL.
Let us know what you think of this video and whats in your minds about Palin.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Murphy,
Good morning ! Well, after reading, well, actually scanning some comments published against PUMA it is obvious that people can’t stand people that think by themselves. They have also said horrible things about Hillary, and we all know what kind of American she is. It is expected from cowards to attack people with integrity to hide their lack of courage and to cover their mistakes.
When I joined PUMA I knew what I was doing, and I felt that it was a way to express my ideas even though not ever member has the same way of thinking, but we all have in common one goal: OUR COUNTRY.
I am not a woman, but I do respect women, I was born from a woman, and I understand the hard work you all do. But some men, because of lack of values, or simply envy, can not and will not accept the role women have in the world, and have made women inferior. So much has been written about equality, yet, in the bottom of many men’s hearts, they see women as inferior.
You have shown courage and respect to initiate PUMA, they have shown fear and disrespect to criticize you and PUMA, but it was expected.
Some women might not agree with us, maybe because they are still too attached to the way of thinking that women should do what their men tell them to do, but I believe that deep in their souls, they all applaud you, but are to afraid to admit it.
Keep the great work. History will tell who was right and who was wrong. History will tell who was for our great country and who was against it. Luckily, we belong to the first group.
This is and will be a difficult time in our history, but we can all go to sleep in peace, after all, it’s what matters.
My congratulations to you and every single person that has inspired others to continue this noble cause. Let’s keep the great work !
Regards,
Oscar P.
Miami, FL
Murphy,
I’ve just finish reading all the invectives delivered by trolls you’ve posted. My first reaction was, “Jesus! They’re just like those people who supported the tyrant.” When I say “tyrant”, I’m referring to my old country. When people are following blindly, they’d slit their own throat without even knowing it. A bachelor’s degree, master’s degree or PHD doesn’t make a person streetwise or have common sense. I would have a person with common sense working for me than a person with bachelor’s degree anytime of the day. Education is good, it opens door for anyone to get out of poverty but it doesn’t give you common sense. Suffice to say, NObama supporters lacked common sense in that department.
A true democrat is a righteous person. which NObama supporters have failed miserably. Hatred, racial remarks, sexism, misogyny, bigotry; ALL of this CAN be credited to NOBAMA. NObama’s campaign are based on hate, it is no surprise for rational thinking people to see through his façade of “hope and change” which GWB also use in 2000 election against Bush. The democratic party have demeaned themselves to the extreme, a common man eking out a living cannot relate to them anymore. In fact it drives people away from them. Who wants to be affiliated with a party that spews blatant hatred against anyone who refuse to follow them? The word “civility” and morality is no longer in existence with the democratic party.
NObama true to his experience as community organizer, his ONLY experience; showed to the American people what his experience was all about; he’s an AGITATOR. Every speech he gave which people swallowed (not all) like vitamins you take daily, he dangles a carrot to his audience after he tears them down and make them feel he is the only one can save them from their own misery; that he alone can do the right thing for them, that he alone can change their life for the better; and those who refuse to follow him should received the worst treatment from his supporters. Those from 16 years old all the way to late 30’s will buy his rhetoric without dissecting every word he said and examining their selves closely. They expect the government to take care of them. In true democracy, man is responsible for his own well being, he is responsible what kind of path he choose in life. NObama is offering them gold, but they don’t know its GOLD PLATED.
NObama offers vague solution to EVERYTHING, he is into what’s “HOT ISSUE OF THE DAY”, very unprincipled in my opinion. When you listen to NObama’s speech without analyzing every word he says, you would believe he’s the Second coming of Christ. But if you’re a detailed kind of a person, you’d question everything he says with his preacherlike tone of voice. THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. When it comes to DETAILS, NObama is SORELY LACKING; but the dreamers and idealists couldn’t see that – they want a feel good stuff; for a brief period they wanted to forget they are RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN LIFE, THEIR OWN ACTIONS.
NObama is a true follower of Karl Marx, he is reciting Marxist ideology in every speech he gave all the way to his HOLLYWOOD CONVENTION. There is ONE WORD to describe NObama’s acceptance speech in Invesco with his fake Greek Temple – HUBRIS.
Just posted this on Gretawire:
I need to make a couple of points on behalf of PUMA PAC:
We DO NOT endorse any candidate. It is prohibited by law.
Our members stand firm in our committment to NOT vote for Obama.
Our members will take many different paths on November 4th, for many different reasons. PUMA PAC does NOT endorse or encourage ANY of those paths, as we believe they are very personal, very individual choices.
There are millions of PUMAs – some full-time, some part-time, and many who feel the same way we do that don’t know they are PUMAs. We intend on reaching out to those people with open arms.
NONE of us are paid – we are ALL volunteers – and have been from June 3. There is a great deal of jealousy regarding the success of PUMA PAC, and there are hundreds of rumors flying around about our fiscal responsibilities. NO ONE except Darragh Murphy or the Board of Directors at PUMA PAC can speak to our finances.
Per Darragh Murphy:
“Since returning from Denver, the blog has exploded. We have double the number of daily hits; double the number of new members; and double the number of trolls. The Puma PAC blog has had 2,151,892 visits since I put it up on June 3rd. I’ve written 191 (192 with this one) posts in 88 days and readers have posted 130,163 comments. I’ve deleted a few hundred comments and banned about a dozen trolls. Not bad, in my opinion. As I’ve said before, our readers and commenters are WONDERFUL. Only a very small number of creeps have sneaked in and been able to post ugly comments.”
If you’re interested in the Obama campaign’s tactics against PUMA – please visit our blog thread named Saturday Night Free For All here: http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/08/30/saturday-night-free-for-all/#comment-131812. There are six pages of appalling comments that Obama supporters attempted to post on our blog.
So Greta, you ask if PUMA is real. I can attest that we are, and we are growing. In retrospect – how many other three month old organizations headed by amateurs have accomplished what we have? It is obvious that PUMA has tapped into a HUGE number of patriots who are genuinely concerned for our country, our democratic process and principles, and our future.
I invite you to contact Darragh Murphy, Founder and Executive Director of PUMA PAC, to further discuss the PUMA Movement and where we’ve been and where we go from here. This story is far from over.
MarylandPUMA
Director of Communications
PUMA PAC
http://www.pumapac.org
“WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING” – Darragh Murphy
#283 Maryland Puma – YOU GO GIRL.
#283 MarylandPuma YEAHHHH!! TELL IT LIKE IT IS!
By the way, do we have a computer geek here? I still am unable to listen to u-tube videos although I can watch and listen to tv thru my ATI sound card. Usually I can log off and reboot and it’s solved but it’s not working. Has to be a conflict of hardwar but don’t know where tolook. All the volume controls are working and sound is on.
Rasmassen:
Today’s numbers show a one-point improvement for McCain, but Obama still leads 47% to 44%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Obama is now viewed favorably by 57% of the nation’s voters, McCain by 56%. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day and a FREE daily e-mail update. is available.
There have been significant changes in perception of John McCain in the two days of polling since he named Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Since then, 49% of Republicans voice a Very Favorable opinion of McCain. That’s up six percentage points from 43% just before the announcement. Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate.
There has been little change in perceptions of Obama since his Thursday night speech and the Palin announcement (see trends and other recent demographic observations).
#283 Maryland PUMA – Way to go! You all make me cry to much! My love to each and everyone of my Puma Pals.
#232 LotusBoy on 08.31.08 at 11:49 am 227 Asian4Hillary – As mentioned in a few of my posts, I represent the same geographical region and thanksfully, we seem to reason out the fact – enough “so-called educated” that still need to be brought to light. I have sworn to do that and open their eyes and minds and get them over the trance they now are in and I am glad I have fellow PUMA peers to do this together.
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The difference between them and us lotusboy, this is NEW to them, but to us, it isn’t. We’ve both seen corrupt politicians like NObama that raped our country and people. To them, NObama is like a breath of fresh air, they have NO INKLING the likes of NObama is VERY COMMON in corrupt countries; you can’t throw a rock without hitting one of them. We have a huge responsibility to enlighten them before it’s too late. These people supporting NObama wanted a magic wand, an overnight solution – they’re living in DISNEYLAND.
This is to Murphy… You’re terrific !! Thanks for all that you do!!
283 MarylandPuma
you really do rock!!!
Good news from today’s Rasmussen’s poll:
There have been significant changes in perception of John McCain in the two days of polling since he named Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Since then, 49% of Republicans voice a Very Favorable opinion of McCain. That’s up six percentage points from 43% just before the announcement. Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate.
There has been little change in perceptions of Obama since his Thursday night speech and the Palin announcement (see trends and other recent demographic observations).
Palin herself made a good first impression and is now viewed favorably by 53% of voters nationwide. Her counterpart, Joe Biden, is viewed favorably by 48%.
hey goalucard, great to see you!
thanks mp — wise and true words.
Hey asian4hillary — the immigrant experience, from countries with very recent histories of genocide and fascism, is one of the most precious parts of American democracy. Whether it’s Rwanda, Cambodia, Romania, or Bosnia — what you know about freedom and courage is what we all must try to learn.
Murphy deserves some peace and a nice, restful break. If I had a cabin or place of retreat on that side of the country, I’d gladly hand over the keys to her for as long as she likes.
Maybe some other Puma can offer this.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
sly2t
On the Drudge report, someone caught a chairman of the DNC and a congressman from SC saying that God was on their side because of the hurricane. They taped it on a cell phone. How can anyone make light of such an impending tragedy? This goes to show you where their thinking lies. My prayers to all in harms way today, please be safe.
Ms Murphy,
Don’t you dare let these comments get you down. It’s more proof of how nasty the Obama people are. They will stop at nothing. Now they are spreading a nasty rumor that Sarah’s baby was really her daughter’s and that she is covering for her. How low can they go?
Palin/McCain ’08
I posted on Greta last night at about 11:00pm as Hillary 2012. Is it possible to change my name here? How would I go about it.
Does anyone have the link to the accumulated press the PUMA got over the past week?
Many of us in Denver had NO TIME to look at any of them.
Perhaps Murphy can include in an upcoming thread for all the newcomers and the curious to view?
#286 ladyhawkke my husband is so if you still don’t have help I will ask him if he can help he should be back shortly.
#283 Maryland PUMA that was GREAT.
#295 hillary2008 that is what makes me sooo mad it’s all over youtube and a few internet reports made about it but not reported on tv so I send out a letter to all the media and gave them the link to it. If this would have been a repub it would have been blasted across the screen (not sticking up for repubs but bias treatment for BO and DNC).
It is interesting to note that Obama has not gone over th 50% mark. This is not good for them. I am hoping with Bush/Cheney at home that after the convention McCain/Palin hit 50% or over.
MarylandPuma – Thanks for all you do for us.
muphy i read on a blog that you supported McCain in 2000. is that true?
#300 sly2t
Right on. It is one thing to pray for rain on the DNC parade, but to applaud a hurricane to hit NO after what they have been through is disgusting. I was there in April with another group that I work with. We were at the Superdome, renamed Superlove and I meet so many women who had the most horrific stories. I will try as well to send this aroud as well.
This movement will double, maybe even triple in size over the next few weeks. You “amateurs”, as you refer to yourselves, have done an incredible job of gaining support and momentum for this reform movement. My appreciation and warmest regards, Dr. Di
#303 4hillary
Murphy supported McCain over Bush in case we were stuck with a republican. I know alot of people who did that too. We as democrats wanted to go against McCain because Bush was soooo scary ( as we all have learned ). I am sure Murphy can explain it better, but I think that is what she stated.
Why can’t the obama supporters just get over it?
Why are they wasting their time on “only a dozen” Pumas?
Forget about personal identification for voters, instead, a battery of IQ tests should be administered before anyone is allowed to vote.
Too bad they haven’t spent as much time vetting their candidate as they have vetting Murphy.
I really feel bad for you, MURPHY, MARYLAND PUMA, and whoever work on the blog
I started to read them this morning
and I stopped
I could not continue, they are really demented
See ya all later, going to clean the swimming pool and get some much needed sun so that I can go and fight tonight for all of us over at Greta’s. For all of you in the path of the hurricane, God bless you and keep you safe.
Here’s the new zogby poll. McCain/Palin is now 47% against NObama/NObiden 45%
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews1547.html
MARYLAND PUMA: Yesterday on my walk to the super market I stopped at may mailbox and found my post card from Denver . It put a smile on my face all the way to the market. I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to write and send that post card to little old (82) me.
I will always treasure it.
On the subject of Murphy…It is not only the tears that I have shed for horrible treatment that Hillary has received, but now I shed them for Murphy also. My heart also bleeds for the both of them I am consoled by the fact that you and Mama Puma are there to give Murphy strength and support.
My suggestion is that Murphy should never have to be subjected to the hate mails. Someone should be there to do a triage. The same for phone calls. It is more than evident that she is a very sensitive person and she needs to be protected from these hateful people so that she can have the strength, the courage and physical and mental health to keep her movement vigorous and successful. Thanks to you and Mama she doe have much of the support she needs.
BTW, your MOM was in good PUMA hands while you were away.
Ok now I am totally confused and lost I have be
303 4hillary
Yes, in the primary against George W. Bush, as far as I know.
I also did the same thing and if your heart and brain is in the right place you would have too.
I love Gloria Stienam. She supported Hillary to the end and recently sais she would vote for BO but would not endorse him. I think that says alot. I have heard through the grapevine that she is loving what women are doing. We are the ones that no one expected, just as she was. She understands what a revolution takes. Sometimes you have to stand up to your own party to do it. She knows that they are using Roe against us, but knows that it is safe.
Different Poll
Sunday, August 31
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday—the day before the Republican National Convention is scheduled to begin—shows Barack Obama ahead of John McCain by three percentage points both with and without leaners. That’s exactly the same edge Obama enjoyed a week ago on the eve of the Democratic National Convention.
OK I am totally confuse is NOT part of my message. It just got copied from my post downstairs. I may be 82 years of age, but I am not exactly confused as yet.
Murphy, Marylandpuma, Mamapuma, You are all of our heros. We love all of you and are so very lucky that Murphy stepped up and formed this group. Another lady in courage.
#312 bruce55555
just asking a question. is that allowed? how about you refraining from commenting on my heart and brain? thanks.
Lilibet – you are STILL a youngster to me – I bet we hold the Murphy badge of honor for age on her site –
its always SOOO good to see your posts.
#293
if we do not learn from our experiences and that of others
we are bound to repeat it
& I think we are heading that way
There is a story about Chris Matthews calling Hillary a She-Devil. He is very concerned that he has hurt his chances for a 2010 run for congress with women. Maybe that is why he was soo nice to Murphy. I think we should let CM know what women really think about him. Also, can’t MSMNBC be blames as well if BO loses? They are the reason so many people grew angry at the MSM and left the BO road show.
312 bruce55555
kind of harsh, isn’t it? We all come from a different place, so our views are different.
I for one am going to write down their e-mail address and in a dignafied and respectful way e-mail them a few words. I will be polite but I will not let them degrade and put Murphy down. I am one who has your back Murphy!! As a PROUD PUMA I can not and will not let them slander a beutiful soul Murphy. If any other pumas follow my lead remeber to keep it clean and respectful. Do not follow them in hate and ignorance. I am going to work now to e-mail them. Sorry Murphy for all the hate and threats and aggravation to you and your family. This just show what kind of people support Barry. If he wins just think how in bolden they will feel. They will know they won by fraud and dirty hateful speech and acts. It will get worse if he win the WH we must make sure he does not!! Prayers and love to Murphey and her family. (Again spelling not my strong suit I have Lupus and it has messed up my memory a little sorry for bad spelling and grammer.)
317 4hillary
your question was answered.
322 pumacraig
remember that if you email them, they willthen have your email..and who knows what they will do with that?
303 4Hillary
muphy i read on a blog that you supported McCain in 2000. is that true?
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I’m nt speaking for Murphy, I’m relaying information that has been posted ad nauseum.
It’s a matter of public record that Murphy contributed to McCain’s campaign when he was competing against gwbush. Thousands of Democrats did the same. It was part of a strategy to keep gwbush from winning.
The same strategy was used in this years democratic primaries when republicans became democrats for a day in order to vote for the weaker candidate… obama,
and potentially preventing Senator Hillary R. Clinton from becoming the Democratic nominee for President and assuring a guaranteed win by the democrats.
Ironically, even though republicans voted for obama in the primaries, and obama outspent Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton by $4 to $1, and stacked / thugged/ and scammed the causcuses, and even though the Florida and Michigan votes were halved, and obama broke the rules by running commercials in Florida, and the DNC/RBC donated Michigan’s “uncommited votes to obama, thus breaking their own rules, and donated Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s delegates to obama, thus breaking their own rule of fair reflection, et al.
In spite of white guilt and affirmative action at its best… Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton …
STILL WON.
I think some of the hate mail was written by teenagers who identify with the trenchcoat mafia of bowling for columbine. Their primary talent is for masturbating their keyboards; their primary mental state is hatred, thanks to camp obama.
The vindictive website that posts personal information on Puma members is a hallmark of McCarthyism, another nasty specter resurrected by O’s supporters. What a cesspool.
Can someone help with a video? Got tons of emails asking to make a video using a certain song, but in the words of Barry uh um uh uh hmm uh uh hmm uh. I need some help. Can anyone help with this video I would deeply grateful.
I have a suggestion for a prowl. I think we should write the MSM, at least Gretta at FOX, and ask them to do a special report on the relevancy of Roe v Wade to reproductive freedom in 2008. Let’s get to the truth and quit with the scare tactics Dems.
I am tired of Roe v Wade being used by the Dems to brow beat women. Also the Dems use it as an excuse to ignore other issues like misogyny in the MSM and in their own party. ENOUGH Let’s get educated about our rights and let’s educate others.
#327 john on 08.31.08 at 12:38 pm Can someone help with a video? Got tons of emails asking to make a video using a certain song, but in the words of Barry uh um uh uh hmm uh uh hmm uh. I need some help. Can anyone help with this video I would deeply grateful.
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I can help you with the video John….Please ask Murphy for my email.
#321 Sunshinelvr
i am not bothered by the remarks. i come here and i know that i am going to get comments like that.
but i am a democrat that is here hoping to bring democratic viewpoints into this discussion.
i still support the democratic party and i just want to make it clear. i am not here attacking anyone’s opinion. i just want to try and keep the discussion honest and hopefully change a mind or two.
#324 Sunshinelvr
I agree. We have to be safe. There are some really crazy people out there. I do not share my views with anyone outside my close circle of family and friends. I have had my Hillary signs torn down countless times and had my car scratched where I had Hillary stickers. I speak to people that are open-minded and not excited about BO.
Asian wow thank you very much I will ask for you email.
Remember PUMAs, we are inclusive. Many new members are joining and have questions about the misinformation that has been perpetuated by our opponents and the media.
I know we tend to get our fur ruffled when someone asks the same question on a negative line that has been answered a million times, but we need to remain factual in our answers if we provide them.
We are INCLUSIVE, not EXCLUSIVE.
Hey Britt, I am behind you, you know that and you also know what to do about your e-mail address. I will be talking with you later.
Dances with Pumas
AMEN!!!!
#332 john on 08.31.08 at 12:41 pm
You’re welcome. We’re PUMAs we help each other. Give me instructions in email how do you want the video done. I use a software filmmakers use to create/edit videos.
Asian
Please email me written permission to disclose your email address at marylandpuma@gmail.com
I will put you in touch with John.
#310 That’s great to see. Rasmussen should reflect that also. The Dems are in trouble and the only way they know to fight back is to be really nasty and then use voter fraud on election day. I hate to be so harsh, but the BO-Dems haven’t shown that they can act in any other way.
O.K., I’m off to do my Sunday shopping. -Lara08
#326 Yes, but still no move by the DNC to stop the hate problem or disown these people.
Notice how they all seem to subscribe to some sort of need for purity sort of like Hitler. So any person who once voted Republican is somehow discredited for the rest of their entire being. Anyone who has had a DUI is discredited for the rest of their entire being…… They sound as if they feel they have discovered something momentous when they find out humans fail occasionally to meet their standards of perfection. Well I can’t wait to see them try to win an election with only the votes of people they deem perfect.
Murphy, I don’t think you can possibly comprehend how good you are. What you have done and are doing is so desparately needed for this country. You lift my spirits and give me hope. If PUMAs can work together with you we can do so much good.
The key here, in my opinion, is we must work together and as you always say be good to each other. What we must do is bigger and more important than any one of us.
Regardless of who becomes president, we are losing our democracy, this country is in trouble. We do definitely have “A call to action.”
How I long for the day when I use my vote for someone, not against someone.
328 Seattlegirl ~~~~ YES!!!! Yesterday I was asked if I knew what Palin’s stance on abortion and Roe is. I said they should ask someone who cares.
When it got arounmd to talking about me being a member of PUMA the s**t hit the fan. After being referred to as ‘one of those sicka** bi**hes” I replied, ” So you are one of those people who hates women, huh? Do you think we could work on that?”
#330 4Hillary, You are going to have a wasted time trying to change a PUMA mind. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!! LOL
I left the democratic party to become an independent several years ago. My problem with the democrats was that the far left controlled too much of the party agenda. Two prime examples are Global Warming and Drilling in ANWAR. I question everything I’m told – particulary by politicians. I research issues, part of that is being from the Show me State but mainly my background in engineering and problem solving.
Keeping to the point I want to make. I feel I could find a home with the PUMA’s if you could shedd the “The Polar Bears are drownding” and the “Earth will burn up in 20 years” people that belong with the Obamabots and the DNC. I truely lost my respect for Al Gore over these issues.
I would be happy to debate these issues but that is not why Im here. I just would like to know is if the New Democratic Party (PUMA’s) would welcome me or shunn me for these views.
I think that our next step is to research and release a state list of how your vote is counted if you write in HRC as POTUS.
This will go a long way in helping our members decide their plan of action on November 4.
Any thoughts?
#337 Maryland PUMA on 08.31.08 at 12:45 pm
Check your email please.
Keep showing us the filthy e-mails from the BO supporters. It is a great way to recruit new members. It is empowering!!!
#342 scathcart
yes it sure seems that way! but in honesty last week i was not planning on supporting the democrats. in fact that is what brought me here. so now my mind has changed and i am still here.
#342 – Scathcart
I think 4Hillary is referring to changing our opposition’s minds…..not PUMAs.
The more we arm our members with CORRECT information the more effective we are among the masses.
Let’s put the claws back in the paws and get busy!
PUMAS
The hate emails are not that important.
What Murphy is telling us is that they have her address and her mother’s address. I’m quite sure
there are other threats she is not telling us about -
Diane Montouvalos had an obamanut at her front door
dressed in a cop’s uniform – but when Diane asked for
identification, he turned and ran.
If you’ve ever had your family threatened, you know
how that feels, and how your life is changed.
Instead of getting Murphy a pair of $200 sneakers, maybe we can find out if she has the kind of video alarm system sold at Radio Shack, Costco, BJ’s and other security places, and contribute to buy that for her and one for her mom.
Feeling safe and secure in your own home is pretty important when you become a public figure, and Murphy has become a public figure.
If you remember when the guy who started move-on started, no one knew his name, address, where he lived – it’s only in the last year that he has given interviews where people know what he looks like, and
most of the other people in his group dont give their last names.
Now Murphy knows why celebrities dont give out their phone numbers or email addresses. She has given to us, and since she doesn’t have Secret Service protection, maybe we should be giving to her for starting a ball rolling for all of us, that may change the direction this country takes …
What say you Murphy? Have you seen those video camera alarms that go outside your house, and can be monitored inside and with alarm?
My second thought is after we get her house wired up for safety, a day of pampering at a spa would probably do her a lot of good.
How about it PUMAS ?
PUMAS
The hate emails are not that important.
What Murphy is telling us is that they have her address and her mother’s address. I’m quite sure
there are other threats she is not telling us about -
Diane Montouvalos had an obamanut at her front door
dressed in a cop’s uniform – but when Diane asked for
identification, he turned and ran.
If you’ve ever had your family threatened, you know
how that feels, and how your life is changed.
Instead of getting Murphy a pair of $200 sneakers, maybe we can find out if she has the kind of video alarm system sold at Radio Shack, Costco, BJ’s and other security places, and contribute to buy that for her and one for her mom.
Feeling safe and secure in your own home is pretty important when you become a public figure, and Murphy has become a public figure.
If you remember when the guy who started move-on started, no one knew his name, address, where he lived – it’s only in the last year that he has given interviews where people know what he looks like, and
most of the other people in his group dont give their last names.
Now Murphy knows why celebrities dont give out their phone numbers or email addresses. She has given to us, and since she doesn’t have Secret Service protection, maybe we should be giving to her for starting a ball rolling for all of us, that may change the direction this country takes …
What say you Murphy? Have you seen those video camera alarms that go outside your house, and can be monitored inside and with alarm?
My second thought is after we get her house wired up for safety, a day of pampering at a spa would probably do her a lot of good.
How about it PUMAS ?
330 4hillary,
you wrote:
“i am not bothered by the remarks. i come here and i know that i am going to get comments like that.
but i am a democrat that is here hoping to bring democratic viewpoints into this discussion.
i still support the democratic party and i just want to make it clear. i am not here attacking anyone’s opinion. i just want to try and keep the discussion honest and hopefully change a mind or two.”
My question is, whose mind would you like to change and in what direction? just asking.
Asian – DONE
#341 Living Grace Good work! I can not believe the amount of misinformation about Roe v Wade. And the Dems have been foster this ignorance and trading on it for far too long.
I am serious! Lets force a discussion of Roe V Wade’s relevancy in 2008. Of course I am sure that is on the Dems list of politically incorrect topics right up there with misogyny in the MSM and in the way the party told their female candidate to sit down and shut up.
Hold your noses and vote for McCain it doubles the impact.
MO independent
As far as I know, this is an NOBAMA group. I would hope we are not excluding independent thinkers. As a Democrat, my beliefs are not down the party line. I am sometimes a little left, sometimes more to the center. I think some are worried we may be losing good dems to the rep. I guess there is no way to control a group this large. PLease feel welcome.
” The BIGGEST THREAT to DEMOCRACY are UNINFORMED voters”. It is TRUE in every nation of the world wherein a country has a government by representation.
A great idea Maryland, I still do not know about the Missouri Delegates as to how they voted. I do have an idea though.
348 MarylandPuma
if that’s what 4hillary meant I apologize to 4 hillary and to you and to all, sorry.
#350 Kelligesq
I’m in.
353 Seattlegirl
They accuse us of being so stupid as to vote our anatomy, they they ask us to vote with our wombs! It is crazy wrong!
Here’s an interesting article webfoot just sent me:
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB122005063234084813.html
#350 I agree and will donate to security for Murphy and any other PUMA leadership who need it. Also the spa day or whatever she considers relaxing. When an inspired person comes along it is important for us to take care of them because if the background noise gets too high in their life they won’t be able to hear their inspirations which all of us benefit from.
#343 MO Independent
Welcome to PUMA PAC. Our goal is to fight the corruption in and hijacking of the Democratic Party and the democratic process.
We are composed of an extremely diverse membership and we celebrate that – it makes us powerful.
We all try to be respectful of each other and of our differing views by not overly-promoting a position or engaging another PUMA because their views differ.
If I can help in any way, please email me at marylandpuma@gmail.com
Again, welcome to PUMA PAC, where your voice matters and will be heard.
Murphy needs to involve the FBI.
#354 Doctor Di on 08.31.08 at 12:52 pm Hold your noses and vote for McCain it doubles the impact.
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Good one! That’s what I intend to do in November. My doctor said if McCain is our next President, he’ll leave USA; I told him to give me a call I’ll help pack his stuff so he can leave faster than the average.
You know it might be time to apply for some sort of funding grant for PUMA. I know grants are a pain in the bum but there comes a time when it is necessary to continue.
((((((TRISH))))))))
((((((GOANDERSEN))))))))
(I didn’t count hugs so don’t get all jealous! LOL)
#350 Kelliqesq
I won a system like that in an auction. If Murphy needs it, it is hers.
#367 Maryland PUMA
hugs back atcha
#367 Maryland PUMA
hugs back atcha
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Although I do not want to see BO anointed as you, I hope for the day I can find a party to belong to.
364 Doctor Di
I agree..and keep lots of records..vidoe-taped if possible..she needs to feel safe in her own home..this is a tactic used to scare people into voting for someone you know is not going to pursue our personal freedoms if he wins–because we already see our personal freedoms being infringed upon and he has not even won the Presidency yet!
#330 4Hillary, I am sorry I mis-understood your words.
PUMAS
Please be careful not to over-promote your personal choice.
There are PUMAs who can not, will not vote McCain. There are PUMAs who will stay home. There are PUMAs who will write HRC in. There are PUMAs who will support Third Party candidates.
Stay true to the cause – fighting the power brokers that sold democracy to the highest bidder both for personal and financial gain.
343 MO Independent – I share your sentiment. On Al Gore particularly, I keep asking what he did in his VP years 1992 through 2000 to voice what he is voicing today on Global Warming, we are all dead to drive our cars, buy Arabian horses instead of Oil for future energy plan etc. I did not find anything that says he did anything for the causes. I am a show me kind of person and like you, I would also like to bring to this forum and elsewhere issues that make people discern truth.
and don’t forget he voted FOR FISA!
Persuasion of others can be difficult. Effectiveness in helping others depends on controlling myself. I think it’s important, especially when dealing with people like those who made the comments above, to keep a tight rein on my emotions and try not to give way to critcism, blame, scorn, or judgement.
IMHO, we need to maintain a firm focus on our goals and mission, our foundation. While everyone else is focusing on the problem, our focus must be unwaveringly on the solution.
It is said that we create our own reality. wherever we find ourselves right now is our own creation.
PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT
This is Mama
If you want to give Murphy so rest, comfort, inspiration and affirmation, DO NOT CARP AT EACH OTHER!
Voice your opinions without sarcasm or attack. The focus is on the issue not on another’s view of the issue.
Mama is watching and Mama is not going to be happy until Murphy is happy.
Love
Mama
#353 Seattlegirl …I agree people need to be educated on the truth…I went to a party last night and had a great discussion about the candidates. Here in Western PA Hillary won in the primary by 70%. People here really admire her and feel that they have to choose between 2 inferior candidates. Most are leaning towards McCain because they do not trust BO. One man said he was going to vote for BO because his son will be 18 in 4 years and fears he will have to go to Iraq. My argument for him was that even if BO gets elected that is no guarantee that the “war” will be over in 4 years and if McCain gets in Hillary has a good chance in 2012. I also educated him on the corruption and fraud of the Dem Party and BO during the primary among other things. People need educated. I feel this needs to be one of our main objectives of Puma.
Ok.. I have a new website for people in LA to go to for information… http://www.la211disaster.org To go along with the state emergency phone number… 866-288-2484.. If coming to Texas they can dial 2-1-1 for information on their cell phones.
TX – new mandatory evacuation for Newton County to add to Orange, Jefferson and Hardin Counties. Please dial 2-1-1 if you are in Texas for current Hurricane information. Please listen/watch your media for updates.
Stay safe PUMA’s
nativegirl
#299 sly2 thanks for trying to help. If I can’t get it fixed, I will have to call someone to come to my house and fix it. Please email me at prowlhawkke at gee mail and if you give me your phone number, i will call you
Does anyone know anything about the draft, and is it something the Congress has to approve. Just curious.
The cause of all our country’s problems is rooted in one thing—Selfishness. And the only way to change it is by getting ‘self’ out of the way. Isn’t that what we mean by ‘country first’?
If anyone else is like me, want to contribute and support candidates that will help us bring Democracy back to the Democratic Party, but don’t have much time, you can find information at Heidi Li’s Potpourri site.
And to PUMA, this forum is making me understand and appreciate good journalism. Perhaps a by-product of the PUMA movement is fair and objective journalism. The only reason, I say brazenly, that we are all here is to a large extent bad and biased journalism (I include media in it and Hollywood to some extent) and other negative reasons. To conclude, I think at the end of the elections and in the new “history making era” whereas people can bend backwards all the way, they still will not grow wings and fly. Grounded in this truth, we shall continue working.
The true story behind withdrawal from Iraq is that immediately upon withdrawal, Obama will send our troops to Afghanistan.
So his claims to “end the war and bring our troops home” are empty platitudes that pander to parental emotions.
#358 bruce55555
no, i think you are correct about my intentions.
i support universal health care.
i do not want roe v. wade changed.
i do not believe in trickle down economics.
i think the war in iraq was a mistake.
i am afraid people here are throwing the baby out with the bath water.
friday was a very emotional day for me here on this blog and the comments here really upset me. friday night i felt like i was having an emotional breakdown. so i stepped away from the discussion for a while and spent some time deciding if i should return. i talked about it with a friend and i got some good advice.
so i am not taking the comments here as personal attacks on me, they are attacks on my views. and those views have been attacked for hundreds of years.
so thanks for putting up with me. i just want the discussion to be honest. i see a lot of false information being spread here. much of it is unintentional. some of it is deliberate.
forgive me if i ask questions that have already been answered. maybe a faq should be posted that contains that information.
#353 Seattlegirl
i think roe v. wade is very important and is worthy of discussion. it is very relevent in this election.
I agree with Barb..people need educating. The MSM is not telling even a third of the story..so if people aren’t researching for themselves, they do not know what went on in the caucauses. If they don’t have internet or lots of different newspapaers coming to their home, they just won’t know unless we figure out a way to get the word out to them.
Seattle Girl,
341 & 353
Fox News, republican stronghold is exactly the wrong place to ask for a discussion of Roe v Wade. They just as much as the dems use it as a battering ram to keep their voters agitated – maybe Niteline or NPR,
here’s the truth on Rove V Wade
Chief Justice John Roberts Of The United States Supreme Court statement on the case of Roe v
Wade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Roberts
“John Roberts, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court states that in Roe v. Wade there is established precedence and is to be respected as such.
Stare decisis (the policy of the court to stand by precedence.)”
Roe V Wade is not in any danger from Chief Justice Roberts who can be expected to live
at least another 30 to 40 years, and his appointment to the bench is ” lifetime”
So DNC, Democrats, and Nancy Pelosi, stop using that old sawhorse to draw up fear of Republicans winning the 2008 election. Your fear mongering on that issue no longer works.
We now know what we have to fear is your two faced unethical cheating and crooked leadership in Congress. Now that’s something that can be remedied
Hey Maryland PUma – good to see you as always – I just got an email from my friend Gandalf – he is almost done with an amazing project that brings down every State by both Governor, Senator, Congress with who is up for re-election, whether or not they were for BO or HRC and if they got money from either BO or Pelosi – he asked me and I said that I would ask you – should he post it here so that everyone from their own individual State will have a good knowledge of everything – GOOD GUY vs BAD GUY senario or send it to you or to Murphy for a prowl – for some reason he can not get the internet working today – email seems to work fine -
“Mama is watching and Mama is not going to be happy until Murphy is happy.”
Believe every word Mama posted.
You can ask anyone who met her in Denver… Mama is one tough cookie, says what she means, means what she says.
#385 LotusBoy
Because of cable news stations we have too much commentary, not hard news. Also, news divisions used to non-commercial. No one owned that hour. Once they started selling commercial time, the news networks were purchased by big companies with agendas.
I have e-mail address that are hard to find me! If they do so be it I will stand tall. Sticks and stones can hurt me but there words can not!! Besides I live in section 8 housing and my life is in danger every day on some level or another! I am use to being called names and people trying to intimidate. I am not affraid, besides if Murphy and her family have to put up with this shit then I can. Murphy is not use to this kind of hate and threatening behavior she has a family to protect, I have lived in it for 11 years its not easy but you learn to stand strong and tall and not let them intimidate you!! They do not beleave anyone will answer them back in a respectful intelligent way. I will be just fine Thank you for thinking of me! SCATHCART you know I will cover my tracks do not worry!
Not to mention Obama’s desire to have a ‘domestic militia’ that would work on US soil composed of young men and women in this country. He would send our trained military overseas.
His desire to have all serve their country is laughable, considering he never did.
So the pandering of getting your child out of harms way is bogus. They will either serve in Obama’s militia or in the Armed Services.
Another CHOICE Obama plans to take from the citizens of our nation.
#386 Maryland PUMA …That is what I was trying to convey to the man I talked to last night…I could see the fear he had about his son going to war…I think after our conversation he realized he needed to rethink his decision about BO. Playing on people’s emotions is effective..but deceptive!!
#380 nativegirl
Sorry… meant to note on the website for LA residents for the hurricane you do not need a login or password, just click on the resources at the left.
Nativegirl
#381 ladyhawkke ok he just got out of the shower I will show him the problem and we will be back with you in 5 minutes if not sooner.
New hurrican update… expecting Gustav to hit New Orleans. Texas will be assisting to help with evacuees from New Orleans.
nativegirl
#373 scathcart
sorry if i am being unclear. i am not trying to start a fight but an honest debate. i would like to see folks here come back to the democratic party and side of hillary clinton.
i think the democratic party needs fixing and i do not think that voting republican will fix anything.
if mccain wins the election pumas will not get the credit for it anyways. so i do not think that the “let’s teach them a lesson” idea is a good one.
#390 Goalucard4Hill
It does this weary PUMA good to see you here! Much love to you.
Please have Gandalf email me the information. It will be too much to post on the blog and is best sent to members only.
marylandpuma@gmail.com
Thank you both – for everything!
#394 Maryland PUMA
So, my question is, if we have a Democrat in the WH, and a Democratic congress, is that what is needed to advance the draft. I know the draft boards we re-opend in 2003. You can go to the selective service web-site and read what is already in place. They do not however, talk aboiut WHO has the power to re=instate the draft.
I am so happy to finally see Murphy venting the crap that they are sending. I am happy to see the email addresses as well. I really hope that some of these people can be attached to the Obama campaign as some of his bloggers. They are absolutely ridiculous. I hope she gets them, as they have attacked her!
366 Seattlegirl~~THAT is an absolutely excellent idea, which I hope people will think about. Last night I was thinking about how we will survive and grow, financially.
Are there any experienced grant writers amongst us? What about establishing a ‘Grant Committee’?
Murphy, I just wanted to let you know that you have done an amazing job! Pumas have the dnc running scared, why else would they bother reading or responding to us? We PUMAS are fighting the democratic party, the supposed party of inclusion that has decided which groups of people are needed and which ones that are to be cast aside.
I do want CHANGE! The change I want is reform, the democratic party needs to be purged of corruption, purged of women leaders that do not stand up and rage against sexism! Am I bitter? You bet your ass I am! I have spent my life teaching my daughters and son that women are brilliant, capable, productive members of society that can and do achieve greatness. How am I now to explain the treatment of the most qualified candidate( this year) to run for the presidency? The plain truth is there is no explanation, at least not a pleasant one. I, in my own life have overcome to much to sit back, shut up and jump on board the Obama train. I want it derailed….I want it stopped on the tracks. We are the engine that can make that possible and we together can leave the caboose sitting at the station!
This is bigger than Hillary, bigger than Obama and bigger than McCain, bigger than party affiliation and much bigger than the media manipulation that has left millions of people scratching their heads! It’s not about advancing the careers of corrupt, power mad politicians, it’s about us! OUR COUNTRY! I want my country back, out of the hands of dirty politics, dirty games and massive egos! IT BELONGS TO US, THEY WORK FOR US AND IF THEY CAN NOT DO THEIR JOBS IT IS UP TO US TO FIND THOSE THAT WILL!
What I remember is how hard you all worked. You made signs, you marched, and marched and walked and walked. The amount of press there amazed me, I think everyone was interviewed multiple times. I think that at least 1/3 of Denver was press, very funny.
What I really want to say though is directed at Murphy and the leaders of PUMA. Great job. I hope that everyone realizes what kind of effect we have had on our country. Do you really think that the Republicans would have nominated a woman if it had not been for us? That’s really called change. As soon as McCain announced his new nominee, I knew that we mattered.
I’m impressed by all of you.
ladyhawkke you’ve got mail.
#389 Kelligesq
suppose you are right and Roberts lives another 40 years. then what? mmcain has been crystal clear that he wants it overturned. and he has stated that he will put in the justices to do it.
I’m not a Republican, tho I will vote for McCain/Palin this year.
I do have a strong sense of history and I know that from the first landing of the Pilgrims to (however long it takes) this country has fought back those who stood for principle, freedom, justice, liberty. This election will be no different. It is hard to stand up and be counted as different, so my praise and encouragement to all of you who are brave enough to do so and my thanks to Murphy for asking “who will join me?’
399 4Hillary
I will not be using the “let’s teach them a lesson” idea to cast my vote for McCain. I will be voting for McCain/Palin because I feel they will stand up for our freedoms against any and all threats to our national security and our personal freedoms. *61 will never convince me that he and his wife even honor and love America.They seem to just love certain “peoples” in America and not all of us as a whole. they have a “hidden agenda” that they are trying to keep well-hidden.
Michelle47… I absolutely agree!!!
SLY2 SLY2 see my post above about contacting me
#399 4Hillary
If it is a debate you are seeking, then please post your questions in a clear concise manner so that our members may address them.
Keep in mind however, that we are a diverse group of people with differing opinions, and the tie that binds us together is that Obama and the DNC hijacked the Democratic Party and democratic process. We will NOT, under any circumstances, vote for him.
I appreciate your non-confrontational approach. Be aware that we have been beaten and battered and misrepresented by a plethora of Obama supporters, media, and websites.
It is my goal to keep the peace on this blog – we’ve been through enough and deserve the time to rest and recharge on our own blog free of attacks and outright antagonistic behavior.
Welcome.
Does my eyes good to see you too Maryland Puma – I will email him now and tell him what to do – of course – he is waiting on me to finish my portion of the project – bad puma – bad puma – you should get it in about three hours – will have him forward to my email and I can add my own two cents onto it and then on to you – so happy to see you back home with your MamaPuma and Cub. Much love back.
#404 michelle47
the republican party is equally corrupt. change happens from within the party, you cannot change the party by voting for the other side.
#411 ladyhawkke see post #406 slyt2
Our biggest goal is NO OBAMA!! Voting for Obama is not going to fix the Democratic Party.
We can only vote against what the Democratic Party is today and hope that it can be changed to a Party that we all can be proud of again.
I will vote against the Democartic Party for the first time in my 58 years. It will not be something that I find hard to do with the corrupt state that they are in today.
By voting for Obama, you will only inforce their corrupt ways!!
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!!!
#412 Maryland PUMA
i have to say that the republican hijacked the democratic process by having the 2000 election decided by the supreme court.
i was just thinking what will happen when obamas thugs turn their threatening,hostile and violent attacks on Republican individuals or groups.I wonder would would happen if they would do to them same things they have been doing to PUMA..
NObama lied, cheated, promoted hatred, sexism, misogyny, together with the DNC used the media, etc. etc., to get to where he is today.
And has accomplished nothing positive.
Is this the president we want or need?
HILLARY 2008
YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE VIDEO SECURITY SYSTEMS?
AND WILL DONATE IT TO MURPHY OR HER MOM?
WAHOO! YOUR GENEROSITY IS ANGELIC !
then we just need one more for Murphy’s family.
thank you….And Go Anderson and Seattle Girl, too.
now let’s email MamaPumaMass to bring our proposal to Murphy in case she’s not reading.
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PUMAS
The hate emails are not that important.
What Murphy is telling us is that they have her address and her mother’s address. I’m quite sure
there are other threats she is not telling us about -
Diane Montouvalos had an obamanut at her front door
dressed in a cop’s uniform – but when Diane asked for
identification, he turned and ran.
If you’ve ever had your family threatened, you know
how that feels, and how your life is changed.
Instead of getting Murphy a pair of $200 sneakers, maybe we can find out if she has the kind of video alarm system sold at Radio Shack, Costco, BJ’s and other security places, and contribute to buy that for her and one for her mom.
Feeling safe and secure in your own home is pretty important when you become a public figure, and Murphy has become a public figure.
If you remember when the guy who started move-on started, no one knew his name, address, where he lived – it’s only in the last year that he has given interviews where people know what he looks like, and
most of the other people in his group dont give their last names.
Now Murphy knows why celebrities dont give out their phone numbers or email addresses. She has given to us, and since she doesn’t have Secret Service protection, maybe we should be giving to her for starting a ball rolling for all of us, that may change the direction this country takes …
What say you Murphy? Have you seen those video camera alarms that go outside your house, and can be monitored inside and with alarm?
My second thought is after we get her house wired up for safety, a day of pampering at a spa would probably do her a lot of good.
How about it PUMAS ?
Roe V Wade WILL NOT ever be overturned. It is settled law. Stop worrying.
Who should I e-mail about the security system. Mama, Murphy, Maryland?
#412 Maryland PUMA
thank you for tolerating me. i feel like i have said enough for now. i do not want to work myself into a frenzy like i did on friday.
take care everyone and please try to keep your mind open until election day and then decide. sorry my time is up. bye.
#309 dear Go OHIO LADY,
Where is Greta’s. Is that a web site?
I wanna play too!
pink
the gop will grab obama by the neck and wrestle him down to the ground…thats one thing i do respect about gop…they can get real dirty when needed.
well, everyone, I have to go get some things done. Welcome back,all you tired Pumas! Glad you have all arrived safely!
hehehe just imaging what the NRA would do in response to obama thuggery directed against them
346 Doctor Di
I agree! We can hold these comments at arms length and examine them without taking them in.
I LOOOOOVE the Palin choice. I never really knew anything about her, but as soon as I saw her on TV and heard her speak, I was instantly drawn to her. I trust McCain and Palin — it is a very strong gut feeling I have. On the other hand, I DO NOT trust Obama and his wife at all.
The through-line of all the fear mongering is analogous to the same message given to abused women for hundreds of years…
“Stick with your man and take it if you want your kids to eat”
Most of these Obots couldn’t give you a comparison of the candidate’s positions if their life depended on it. They are abusers whose voice is reflective of the misogyny that got Obama the nomination in the first place. They are hitching their wagon to what they think is a star because they believe it gives them personal power. It’s gang mentality. Individually, their feet are made of clay and at some point they are going to start dropping like flies. They have no real power unless we give it to them.
listen…
we should all donate to get murphy a state of the art security system…and (i know some are sensisitve about this subject) a piece of heat to pack.
Dear Murphy,
I’m new with this fine PUMA group, and I’m here to stay!
I’ve just read through much of the above….. and first of all I say “God Bless You”!
This is the usual trash talk we always get from the opposition when you’re (we’re) winning! That’s it. We’ve struck a nerve. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ARE WINNING; SO IT WILL PROBABLY GET WORSE.
Thank you for having to endure all that foul mouth trash talk, and keeping it from coming on these sites. I know it has been extremely difficult.
Note: I think it is also great you posted the email of many of the foul mouth trash talkers you referenced. If there any hackers among the good “guys” here in PUMA; I’m sure the hackers could set up some ‘hidden” email accounts somewhere out there in cyberspace that would be untraceable, and then start emailing these offenders.
Let’s all stick together, everyone.
AND YES, I think it best we set an example among us not to criticize the other person (personally) just because we may not agree with what that person is saying. If there is a disagreement, it’s best to state the disagreement, but not attack the speaker. Personal attacks turn everyone off. No one listens. If there is a disagreement, that is fine. State it and say why. That is no problem. We don’t want this to be a site like “Politico” which can get rather wild — but there is rarely any foul language.
Thank you.
Common Sense 12
Dear Obama Supporter,
I am profoundly happy that you are taking advantage of the Freedom of Speech that is guaranteed by our first amendment! My confusion lies in the fact that you feel PUMA members, or anyone who disagrees with your cause, should not be allowed to take advantage of that same freedom. I feel your pain, supporting a candidate that promises so much, but delivers so little! We have all been there once or twice in our lives. As you mature and grow older you will learn that these promises of “CHANGE” AND “HOPE” are spewed by many candidates who do not have a firm standing on the issues and that the only change and hope they represent is the hope that you will not change your mind and actually research their positions. History has taught us that no politician will or can please everyone and that no politician can make good on all their campaign promises.
I would like you to consider as you post your opinions and that is, would you send this type of hate and expletive filled message to your mother or father? Would the words you use now be something you would be proud to here from your own children? There are many ways to express your discontent with another person’s opinion, a large majority of them can be achieved by calm presentation of the “facts” you wish to convey! Spewing hate and insults peppered with vulgarity very seldom impresses the person you are targeting and almost always only makes their resolve stronger! Insulting another person based on their personal decisions will never bring others around to your way of thinking. Intimidating others through threats or violence may seem like it will help your cause, but in reality it simply turns people against you.
In closing I would like to say that we are all Americans, some of us have fought to guarantee you the freedom to voice your opinion! Many generations have come before us and many will come after us and all of those were/are responsible for ensuring that ALL AMERICANS have the same right to freedom of speech, the right to voice their dissent or approval of the parties we represent and that we all respect each other’s rights to do so. You can be a bright light in guiding the future of our country or you can become the darkness that condemns our future, the choice is yours!
Thank You,
James
A PUMA democrat
Emails sent to the above “posters” I migth be off target but I tried to clearly and civilly (sp?) state my position. Hopefully I acheived those goals
Peace
I think ,for what thats worth, We are a presence to be reckoned with. This Chicago mob bunch will do what ever they think necessary to scare and remove us. I would make a copy of all thise papers and send to Obama humself and ask did you know this.Later if need be it will b eused to stop him. Send receipt requested back so can prove h erecieved and knew this was going on. He is good at I didnt know this.I will still vote McCain because it ,in my mind only, is best way to get rid of THE ONE.I am going to change my name to my other one cause now i am really ticked and want them to know who I am. Time we stopped with the real nice and got them.Just my thoughts
sorry typos didnt take time to proof hard to get through sometimes have to hurry with it
Ario
I agree . The system that I won I can sell on craigs list, and donate the cash. I googled it, it is worth like 300.00. Anything I can do to help I am willing to do. This is really important, her security. Please let me know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og99_duwZAw
synchoram
classy! thats why im no spokesman…lol i cant even post here what my letter would say!
Sychoram
I think that letter was super and says it for a lot of us thanks
There’s corruption in all political parties,But we now have a Woman VP that takes corruption head on. I fully believe that she will.And we can only hope she starts with,Obama,Dean,Pelosi and Brazille.
I’ve just read a few days ago, NObama and his campaigners are making fun of Palin as Commander in Chief of National Guard in Alaska. Alaska, the 49th state is not called “ THE LAST FRONTIER” for nothing, next door neighbor of Alaska is RUSSIA. On winter time, people can walk for a few days on ice and be in Siberia, that’s how close Alaska is to Russia. In fact Russia sold Alaska to USA, it was Governor Seward who pushed for the buy, it cost the US government 1.9 cents per acre to buy Alaska from the Russkies ($7.2 million). The first shipment of oil out of Alaska was the exact amount USA paid to buy the 49th state. There are Orthodox churches and Russians living in Alaska up to now. Alaska is twice the size of Texas, if we combine all the state of USA, Alaska is 1/4 of the size. It is also the richest state of the Union with population just a little over half a million.
For anyone making fun of Palin, they have no idea the strategic location of Alaska for US National Security.
re#431
if you are being threatened you need an armed guard more than a security system..
I’ve lived in 3rd world countries before and I can tell you the USA is increasingly becoming more like them in terms of the level of violence,intimidation and threats used in politics.
In Mexico over 120 journalists have been murdered and decapitated by political thugs.A popular reformer who was on his way to becoming Mexico’s president named “Colosio” was assasinated on TV during an afternoon rally.
Look at Colombia where people in politics have to live in guarded compunds with armed guards to protect their familes.
It’s not like that here yet,but it looks like its getting there..
Remember Obama can’t lose unless McCain wins!! A Democratic Congress keeps the checks and balances in place.
Hillary2008
It is my firm belief that we will NOT have a Dem in the White House in 2008. All the signs point to an Obama defeat. Is PUMA a part of that? Sure. Is PUMA THE cause of that? No. Obama started imploding before PUMA existed, and the DNC started some intense damage control at the RBC meeting and allowed the media to disparrage and malign HRC with sexist comments. But if one were to make a comment that could remotely be considered racist, the backlash was swift and sure. Disgraceful.
How do I know? I have an email from none other than Donna Brazille stating the the DNC HAD to find a way to give Obama the uncommitted votes.
As far as the militia and military and who has the power to reinstate the draft? I believe the power to do so lies with the POTUS and Congress.
I just wanted to log on for a minute and say goodmorning. I FINALLY slept… thank god…
Last night, I taked about the Clintons not moving on but returning to their passions and that their passions help all of us. Well I’m going to go do my first passion today that has been neglected this week and it will help me, my cat, my neighbors, my friends. i’m going to the laundromat and wash clothes!!! whoo hoo.
I know this post seems ridiculous and outside the interesting debate about who to vote for or not but I just wanted to log in and say PUMAs I slept and still say NOBAMA ’08.
Oh yeah and I downloaded “dont stop thinking about tomorrow” to my phone. It’s made me feel good, too. Can’t wait for it to go off the first time in public, especially tomorrow because I’m going to see some Democrats tomorrow.
#433 Sychoram
Wow! What a letter. You nailed it.
NObama can’t even clean the CORRUPT CHICAGO MACHINE led by DALEY, how can he clean USA?
#445 Dem4Hill
Nothing is ridiculous if it makes you happy and gives you some contentment. Goodness, we all need some after the last 3 months.
#424 tillerylakelady
Greta’s Blog:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/30/puma/#comments
#399 4Hillary, In response to “if mccain wins the election pumas will not get the credit for it anyways. so i do not think that the “let’s teach them a lesson” idea is a good one.”
It doesn’t matter if PUMA’s get any credit. The Democratic Party will be more likely to reform their nomination process after realizing they once again nominated another candidate after a string of candidates since President Clinton THAT CAN’T WIN A GENERAL ELECTION.
This is why I am supporting PUMA. We have our work cut out for us after November 4th when real reform within the party begins.
My earlier post #245 was in response to goalucard
somehow his post # went from 227 to 228. Great post goalucard
John – left you a post under McDemocrat
Murphy, the evil ones always get viscous when their end is near. I guess it is a good sign when the attacks get stronger. The job is almost done
But, I’ve decided I’m not here to battle or fight. I’m here to do the right thing. And sometimes that takes me to scary places but I know as long as I follow my heart and use my head it’ll be “all good” The oppostion can fight and bluster and wear themselves out (I think we were doing that a couple of days ago), we on the other hand will move little bits of the mountain at a time. Murphy is back (thanks, coach!) so HERE WE GO……………….
hillary
great idea!!!! pass the word along!!!!!
GOOD AFTERNOON….. A POST FROM DOWNSTAIRS THAT DESERVES OUR GUFFAW!!
#237 NJ1313 on 08.31.08 at 11:54 am
Just a Joke~~~~
Barack Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane He
Turned to her and said, ‘Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go
Quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.’
The little girl, who had just
opened her book, closed it slowly and said to Obama,
‘What would you like to talk about?’
‘Oh, I don’t know,’ said the Obama.
‘How about What Changes I Should Make To America ?’
and he smiles.
‘OK, ‘ she said.
‘That could be an interesting topic.
But let me ask you a question first.
A horse,
a cow,
and a deer
all eat the same stuff – grass – .
Yet a deer excretes little pellets,
while a cow
Turns out a flat patty,
and a horse produces clumps of dried grass.
Why do you suppose that is?’
Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks
About it and says,
‘Hmmm, I have no idea.’
To which the little girl replies,
‘Do you really feel qualified to
Change America when you don’t
know shit ?
re#447 asian
Chicago political machine…its been a round a long time..remeMber a guy named Al Capone?
OMG! I just read Murphy’s blog entry entitled “Sunday, Wake Up and Smell the Coffee —.”
I’m trying to calm myself down. The hateful comments against D. and the PUMAs are pathetic!
——–
Murphy, thank you for sharing!! I believe that you are the best!!As always, I love you and your fighting spirit! I believe that we are doing what is best for our country and her people. Since NObama was selected, I will be a moderate democrat who votes for the McCain/Palin ticket on November 4th; it will be the first time that I will give my precious vote to a Republican presidential candidate.
Love to D. and all of the PUMAs,
Mary Jo
MJ
Ignorance, breeds ignorance.
They are just running scared now, keep up the good work.
I’ve always stated if Obama gets a bad poll Gallup and Quinnipiac will give him a favorite poll. There’s NO doubt that Gallup and Quinnipiac are in the tank fo Obama and putting up FIXED polls to try and manipulate the outcome of the election. Gallup and Quinnipiac ofcourse has to occassional give Obama a not so favorable day of polls to coverup their manipulation, but don’t be fooled Obama and Oprah has them in their pockets
lizben08…so right you are… if Obama is not elected then the DNC has to reevalute!!!
#456 john, I totally agree. One can’t put any true meaning to the poll numbers these days. They are putting bo on top to keep the obots drinking the koolaid.
I appreciate the positive comments .. I may not be well known here, I tend to work more in the background. Personally, I find the negative comments to be re-invigorating …. we struck a nerve and the more it “throbs” (complains) the closer we are getting to the problem! Murphy, momma and all the PUMA’s have given us a chance to make history that we could probably not have made on our own. I thank then from the bottem of my heart for giving us a home and a reason to stand again
Peace
Could someone PLEASE post the site that has the media links from Denver?
Many of us who were in Denver want to see the media coverage!
Thanks!
RE: Baby with the bath water
I’m going to break my own rule here and mention something that my family and closest friends know I am not open to discussing:
I was diagnosed with a terminal illness. I could live for a year, two years, or ten years. No one knows. Yet.
Last year I decided that this would be the last time I voted in any election. I figured it was fairer to leave future elections to those who would outlive me since the quality of their, your, lives would be at stake.
I’m a Kucinich Democrat. I’ve always voted a straight Democratic ticket, excepting when I voted Green in the California gubernatorial election when the Republicans manipulated the system and recalled Gray Davis.
I care deeply about our foreign and domestic issues, reproductive rights, civil equal rights, environmental issues, the make up of the supreme court, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc., but the one issue I care most deeply about is fair elections. Without fair elections, my voice, my vote, your voice, your vote, is all for naught. The subset of issues and candidates isn’t worth a whit if our votes aren’t counted and, if instead, a few hundred people, of any given party, get to decide who our “elected” officials will be. I’m not willing to witness the country to which my family immigrated, turn into the countries from which they immigrated. I hope I live long enough to see our electoral processes righted, if for only that reason.
Concern Trolls, and others of your ilk:
I ain’t buying wahtever it is you think you’re selling.
Sorry for the typos on post#457
darn typo’s
Bottom of my heart too..lol
TOPIC: Those Pesky DNC EMails
& Stuff you can steal
TEXT IN SUBJECT HEADING___
Caucus Fraud + Sexism + Race Card + Intimidating Delegates + Abbreviated Rollcall + No Time for the “Nay’s” = Stolen Election.
TEXT IN BODY OF MESSAGE:
Stolen Election + Disenfranchised Voters = McCain in November.
Use this if you like it! We could also just use Murphy’s line, which is…
“BBBBWWWaaaaaaaaahahahaha!”
TOPIC #2: Your Friends.
Some of us know the pain & hurt of being attacked by friends & relatives. A dear friend (who will remain a dear friend, fortunately) is still trying to get me to vote for Obama. She sent me a link to a newstory about his life yesterday. Yawn.
Here’s my response, plaguerize at will.
~ ~ ~
“Yeah, same old, same old. He has no quals, and has been utterly & completely hyped as some sort of messiah. And who wants a leader who has an identity crisis (“Obama: Search for identity”)?!
Even “if” I could overlook the sexism in the media towards Clinton, the sexism of the Obama camp and how they called Bill Clinton – one of the greatest presidents of our times – a racist; even if I could overlook the dirty Chicago politics he used to get his Senate seat, even if I could overlook his racist pastor(s), even IF I could overlook his vote for FISA (electronic wiretapping, which Hillary DIDN’T vote for), no one should be expected to support an unvetted candidate who used Caucus Fraud to get elected.
The leadership of the DNC is corrupt to the core, and must have been hankering for another Boston Tea Party since, even though our country has never needed a strong leader so much as it does now, throughout the primaries, in spite of 18 Million votes, they dissed the most qualified candidate for a crackpot.
Like the sign that the black woman was holding in front of the Convention Center said, “Sometimes opportunity is given to the wrong individual.”
NP4HilARee: yes we read it and we thank you for leaving that comment
CommonSense
Welcome aboard!
HILLARY 2008
I emailed MamaPuma,
I think you could e mail all three.
How much did you have to pay on EBay ? and is there
a chance of getting another?
I Go Anderson, and Seattle Girl will kick in to buy it if
the ladies say it’s okay with Murphy and she can use it for herself or her mother.
thanks so much again
Kelli gesq
anyone have Don Fowlers email ?
Oh, Dances, I’m so sorry to hear that. I’ll send you some good energy (REIKI) & keep you in my prayers. Thanks for lettting us know.
#465 Hillstheone
“Sometimes opportunity is given to the wrong individual.”
That’s beautiful! So true. Bless that woman for having a sign for the world.
ipotter: it’s not time that Rasmussen, Zogby, Surveryusa, or News polls give Obama a bad poll. Gallup and Quinnipiac want come back that day or the next day and give him a favorable poll. You can tell these two polls are working for Obama
#451NP – thank you – I said it from my heart – now I am being bad and have work to do for Puma – be back later.
#461 Dances
Go girl! You can teach us a lot about life and death. Love to you and your family. Thank you for just being you, a special part of this world.
#469 prowlland No I don’t I wish I did so if you find it please let me know I assume you want to contact him about his nasty humor over the hurricane. I’ve contacted the media and I pray they will report this.
#468 Kelligesq
I will just send it to Murphy. She can trade it in for something better or use it. That would be the best thing I think. I will send her an e-mail for an address.
TrishfromCanada, thanks for the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og99_duwZAw
link, it’s a “keeper,” for sure.
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Goalucard4Hill: It was so good to hear from you. Thank you for your very kind words. I was already going to send you a message about your message to Murphy. It was NOT rambling. In any case, any of you so called ramblings negate any number of the cruel messages that Murphy receives.
Your name however, always brings to mind that of Wizard. I believe that it was you that told us about his projected whitewater rafting adventure. I remember my heart skipped a beat as I hold that particular form of adventure as being very dangerous. I quieted my fears by saying that there are many people who enjoy this sport and they always seem to survive.
Thank you again for your kind words.
DANCES WITH PUMAS
I’m sorry to hear that – but it all depends on your will.
My suggestion is to get out there and do everything you ever wanted to do – travel, see the world, run for office – Live.
halligan yes I know. Wished I’d taken her photo.
She was standing all alone! And she was there both days.
Hello, all,
Looks like another exciting day at PUMApac. Murphy, stay safe, and document all of these threats. When I say threats, I mean only serious death or bodily harm threats. Report them regularly to the DNC and the RNC. Report them regularly to the police or FBI. I think they should have a consistent report and documentation of threats. I believe there is a difference between potty mouth talk and threats. I also think there has been a distinct difference between the kind of language and threatening talk that has emerged in this election, in particular. Perhaps it is because of the internet. However, I think most of this originated with the Obama camp–as much as we have gotten angry, overwrought, frustrated I don’t believe we have ever threatened someone’s life. We may use a few “colorful words” but, overall, I don’t think I have ever seen threats until this campaign from the Obama bloggers. So, I think a distinction needs to be made between foul mouthed talk and actual threats. We can all tolerate some nasty language, but the threats are serious and should be documented/reported. This undertone of murderous rage has disturbed me since the beginning of the primaries when I first encountered it from the Obama camp. Paul Krugman actually wrote a column about it early on and then he received death threats!
This is what scares me about an Obama presidency. So keep track, everyone, and compile any threats so we can expose them.
475 slyt2
don@fowlercommunications.com
#378 MamaPuma- right on!
Some over anxious PUMAs pounch and then have to waste time and space apologizing.
Heading out for a day in the mtns, see ya’ll tonight.
X’s & O’s – me.
Gallop Daily – The Bump was a Hump
The Gallop Daily maxed out yesterday with an 8% spread in favor of BO. Today is is on it’s way down again, with a 6% spread. The Convention appears to have a similar effect as the ego trip (9% max hump). My guess is that the bumps have become humps with the shortened new cycle of this election. I heard some talking heads saying it has gone from days in 2000 to around a day in 2004 to hours, now in 2008. PUMAs, pat yourselves on the back for being part of that.
Check out the trends:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx
Darrah, I am truly sorry that you have had to bear the brunt of these malicious and obnoxious attacks. You have been extremely courageous in your support of the PUMA movement, which speaks volumes about your amazing character.
As an introvert, I know that I would be extremely rattled by all the media attention, not to mention the personal attacks. I have no way to know your personality except from your TV appearances, but it seems to me that you have such deep and thoughtful convictions that I’ll bet there’s a little introvert in the mix. You have been living in an extremely stressful environment for such a long time now. You need and deserve the support of others, which I hope you feel from the blogs, but you also deserve some time to regroup your whole person and process all of this. I hope you find a good way to take a vacation of sorts. We support you in this.
Please know that you are extremely valued, I guess loved is a better word, for all that you have done and all that you are. Take care of yourself.
And to DancesWithPumas, I am so proud of you doing all you do in your circumstances. My thoughts and prayers go out to you. I know you are not asking for special treatment here but just “keeping it real.” You are amazing.
475 slyt2
no accually I sent him something else…. figured he was emarassed enough about the other
____________________________________________
thisis what i sent him :
Don Fowler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4G9DRvS3s&feature=related
well it happen!
and it doesn’t look good… they didn’t follow their states !!!
A study shows that the presidental canidate who gave the most money to a
superdelegate got their endorsement 82% of the time.
*Sen.Jeff Bingaman Endorsed Obama after receiving $4,200.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
New Mexico Voters: 73.105 for Clinton (49%)
71.396 for Obama (48%)
*Sen. Frank Lautenberg Endorsed Obama after receiving $9,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
New Jersey Voters: 602.576 for Clinton (54%)
492.186 for Obama (44%)
*Sen. Jay Rockefeller Endorsed Obama after receiving $5,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
West Virginia Voters: 239.298 for Clinton (67%)
91.747 for Obama (26%)
*Rep. Zack Space Endorsed Obama after receiving $7,500.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
Ohio Voters: 1,207,806 for Clinton (54%)
979,025 for Obama (44%)
His Cong. District Voters 72,950 Clinton
33,725 Obama
*Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Endorsed Obama after receiving $9,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
Arizona Voters: 228,158 for Clinton (51%)
191,681 for Obama (42%)
His Cong. District Voters 38,216 Clinton
35,676 Obama
*Rep. Dennis Cardoza Endorsed Obama after receiving $4,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
California Voters: 2,306,361 for Clinton (52%)
1,890,026 for Obama (43%)
His Cong. District Voters 37,409 Clinton
20,467 Obama
*Rep.Niki Tsongas Endorsed Obama after receiving $5,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
Massachusetts Voters: 704,591 for Clinton (56%)
511,887 for Obama (41%)
Her Cong. District Voters 68,631 Clinton
46,811 Obama
*Rep. Jason Altmire Endorsed Obama after receiving $10,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
Pennsylvania Voters: 1,260,444 for Clinton (55%)
1,046,220 for Obama (45%)
His Cong. District Voters 84,122 Clinton
43,962 Obama
*Rep. Gerald McNerney Endorsed Obama after receiving $5,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
California Voters: 2,306,361 for Clinton (52%)
1,890,026 for Obama (43%)
His Cong. District Voters 51,112 Clinton
37,310 Obama
*Rep. Charlis Wilson Endorsed Obama after receiving $7,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
Ohio Voters: 1,207,806 for Clinton (54%)
979,025 for Obama (44%)
His Cong. District Voters 98,826 Clinton
37,661 Obama
*Rep. Joe Donnelly Endorsed Obama after receiving $7,500.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
Indiana Voters: 644,594 for Clinton (51%)
630,399 for Obama (49%)
His Cong. District Voters 72,554 Clinton
69,747 Obama
*Rep. Ron Klein Endorsed Obama after receiving $11,000.00 from Obama $2,500 from Clinton
Florida Voters: 857,208 for Clinton (50%)
569,041 for Obama (33%)
His Cong. District Voters 39,451 Clinton
19,228 Obama
*Rep. Baron Hill Endorsed Obama after receiving $12,500 from Obama $2,500 from Clinton
Indiana Voters: 644,594 for Clinton (51%)
630,399 for Obama (49%)
His Cong. District Voters 94,717 Clinton
54,763 Obama
*Rep. Carol Shea Porter Endorsed Obama after receiving $11,500 from Obama $2,500 from Clinton
New Hampshire Voters: 112,251 for Clinton (39%)
104,772 for Obama (37%)
Her Cong. District Voters 56,830 Clinton
48,928 Obama
*Rep. Jim Costa Endorsed Obama after receiving $4,000.00 from Obama 0 from Clinton
California Voters: 2,306,361 for Clinton (52%)
1,890,026 for Obama (43%)
His Cong. District Voters 29,955 Clinton
13,780 Obama
_____________________________________________________________________________
JOHN ALDER NJ $2500 from PELOSI ALDER endorses OBAMA
JASON ALTMIRE PA $10k FROM PELOSI ALTMIRE endorses OBAMA
ANDRE CARSON IN $10k FROM PELOSI CARSON endorses OBAMA
JOE DONNELLY IN $10k FROM PELOSI DONNNELLY endorses OBAMA
GABRIELLE GIFFORDS AZ $10k FROM PELOSI GIFFORDS endorses OBAMA
BARON HILL IN $10k FROM PELOSI HILL endorses OBAMA
RON KLEIN FL $10k FROM PELOSI KLEIN endorses OBAMA
NICK LAMPSON TX $7500 FROM PELOSI LAMPSON endorses OBAMA
TIM MAHONEY FL $10k FROM PELOSI MAHONEY endorses OBAMA
JERRY MCNERNEY CA $10 FROM PELOSI MCNERNEY endorses OBAMA
HARRY MITCHELL AZ $10k FROM PELOSI MITCHELL endorses OBAMA
PATRICK MURPHY PA $10k FROM PELOSI MURPHY endorses OBAMA
JOE SESTAK PA $10k FROM PELOSI SESTAK endorses OBAMA
CAROL SHEA PORTER NH $10k FROM PELOSI SHEA PORTER endorses OBAMA
ZACHARY SPACE OH $10k FROM PELOSI SPACE endorses OBAMA
NIKI TSONGAS MA $10k FROM PELOSI TSONGAS endorses OBAMA
Enjoy your Sunday everyone. I’m off to pick blackberries and make a cobbler. Hope you can all smell it from afar.
Dances
We haven’t tried blackberry wine yet. Next project.
Hillstheone #465… Thank you … I need that for some of my Obamaniac friends
#486 correction : new>news
#488 prowlland
Goes to show you how the O thing was preplanned all along. This election is truly not about “the people.” It’s all about power and greed.
#468 Kelligesq
repost this this evening. I know the evening pumas would participate as well.
475
SLYT 2
FANTASTIC JOB,
I’M SENDING IT TO MY FLORIDA NEWSPAPERS
Dances you are so wonderful, beautiful and brave!
Please stay positive, happy and busy,
Thank you for all you’re doing here,
you’re one of the many Pumas here that I look forward to reading posts.
Murphy
I could not even finish reading the vile things they wrote to you. I am so sorry.I thank you from the bottom of my heart for fighting for all of us .
I understand how the PUMA’s started. I was at the rally
in DC to protest the actions of the DNC in reguard to
FL and MI votes. I was compelled to fly to DC from Chicago with my daughter.I met so many average people who were not in any group.Most were pro Hillary but were mostly there to protest the lack of counting all the votes by the DNC.After 2000,it was so unsettling to us that our Democratic Party was not counting all the votes.Not after 2000. How dare they.
The most important thing I took away from that day was that I was not alone in my thinking.So many people had come to the same conclusions as I did.I cant tell you how many people had already turned off MSNBC and CNN. So many of us were turning to FOX .Never thought I would do that. I was there. I was heartbroken.
PUMA has given me hope.We need a voice to stand up to power.America needs PUMA. We need the truth.
MAYLAND PUMA: Did you happen to see my post #311. I know you have more important things on your mind, but I did so much want you to see it. If you did, just say “yes” and I’ll be satisfied.
The last line does not belong there. I explained it in post#315.
Here is the BIGGEST PROMOTER of NObama!!
“I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said, laughing. “To have it planned at the same time – that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for day one of the Republican Convention, up in the Twin Cities – at the top of the Mississippi River.”
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080830000004.aspx
This is how VICIOUS the democratic party have become this election; they never think of our fellow Americans in New Orleans.
Does anyone else think that #387 4hillary is a paid obamabot?
#461 Dances With Puma
maybe we just do not solve the problem by saying I would not democrat, and in 4 yrs we could came up with something decent
the real problem is that the primaries was a field experiment for the party thugs, frau, bulling HILLARY(as never before seen on tv)lies, etc and nothing happen, therefore stage II, assault to wh>>>>>>>>generalized frau in nov., they have obama camp brainwashing all living creatures that come across, with help of the stupified media
THE REAL DANGER IS THAT THEY COULD WIN¡¡¡¡
500
i would not vote
primaries were
#461 DancesWithPumas
RE: Baby with the bath water
——–
Oh {{{{{{{Dances}}}}}}}, my prayers and strong positive thoughts going your way. I wish I knew the perfect thing to say, we love you and our PUMA paws surround you with hope and respect.
498 Asian4Hillary
isn’t it sad? I saw Michael Moore say that. I couldn’t believe my ears.
Does he not realize how many people will suffer or worse because of the hurricane?
He is a sick man.
#344 Maryland Puma
I asked Murphy but will ask you also, after some well-deserved R&R could you or whoever has the experience, PLEASE set up reference threads where information/links/articles can be used for various topics. For example, one would be your comment about state-write-ins, or nobo’s bc issues, fraud in caucases/primaries, contact lists of Congress, delegates, etc. Links for different talk radio shows, RNC contact numbers, all media (as Greta shows) and key contact info., info on delegate coercion, etc. YOu get the picture. We need to have those resources quickly available to us, PLUS, it should decrease alot of posts on how to find such and such. If you guys can put up the topic threads, we can post the resources on each topic as we come across them. These would be ONLY reference info., not another blogging area.
Please help us with this!!
Thank you!
I am re-watching MTP. Mike Murphy said he “does not believe the PUMA theory that pro-choice dem women will vote for Palin” THey do not get it. Boy they will be surprised. It is at the end of the show. I Tivo-d
#499 Bruce55555
Thumbs up!
PUMAS
HAVE YOU ALL SEEN THIS PARAGRAPH FROM BERG’S
LAWSUIT:
“Investigation further showed that, in 1981, Obama traveled to Pakistan, using his Indonesian passport. At the time of his travels to Pakistan, Obama was twenty (20) years old. He certainly knew that he retained his Indonesia citizenship, and it is implausible that he could not have known that he had failed to regain his United States citizenship (if, again, he had been born in Hawaii). Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Had Obama regained his United States citizenship, he would have been traveling on a United States Passport.”
Migawd, HE ISN”T an AMERICAN !!! and if he was traveling on an Indonesian passport at the age of 20/21 he never was a “natural born citizen of the United States” – natural borns dont have Indonesian passports !
No wonder the judge is not throwing the case out.
At the age of 20/21 he was traveling using an Indonesian passort – ? If you are American do you have anything other than an American passoport at that age?
Migawd., we are right abuot the phony certificates of birth.
Berg could use some $ to send out investigators, subpoenas and paperwork. If we want to keep this case going and maybe succeed in getting BO out before the elections.
Can anybody spare $10, $15 or $20 bucks to send to make sure the lawsuit against Obama is funded ?
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.com
None of the hate matters. The DNC is pulling out all of the stops – they saw the Zogby polls this afternoon:
McCain/Palin: 47%
Obama bin Biden: 45%
Whatever they throw at Murphy or PUMA or post on here, it simply doesn’t matter now.
Hello all Pumas! This is my first time here. You guys are very brave! I’ve been always a democrat but now I am an independent. The democratic convention was a CIRCUS…a roman circus!!! What a joke…too bad SNL is not on, there was a lot of material to make a joke. The DMC is not unifying the party is breaking it. I can not understand why is Hillary’s job to get her supporters to vote for BHO…So far BHO and his supporters just are making the gap bigger, they hate us. So is going to be for me McCain 08/Hillary 12.
Keep fighting PUMAS!
is the federal government going to wait until mr extravagaza get elected to ask him bc clearence?????????
gallup poll measures ALL registered voters whereas the zogby and rasmussen meausure LIKELY voters
#505 Hillary2008
Why is it that some men think they know how women will react or respond? This is not in regard to all men, my hubby is wonderful and open-minded, it is just the idiots that think we are too stupid to decide what we want and will do. Well, this duuuumb women KNOWS what she will do and MTP is clueless, again.
#37 LaureyPuma on 08.30.08 at 11:26 pm Anyone else getting daily emails from the Democratic party? I keep trying to unsubscribe, but they never send the email with the confirmation code. I continue to send them to Spam, but they persist. I think it is interesting to note, that I have never, ever signed up to be on the DNP’s mailing list.
Go to dnsstuff.com, trace the ISP they are using, then contact the ISP directly and report the spam violation.
Any suggestions on how to get them to STOP?
Well well well… my local paper put an article in there titled “TN tall order for Obama.” It’s really a funny article. You can read, if interested at
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/aug/31/tenn-a-tall-order-for-obama/#comments
Here is my response to the article:
HFJ = Harold Ford Jr.
This article just completely cracked me up. Let me LOL. Okay lets start with the following: “That could be done by registering new voters and bolstering turnout of already-registered voters who are prone to vote for Democrats – blacks being the most prominent.”
Well now in a state and a city where on election night where an African American was running to be the SECOND AA in the Senate, was running on “A new generation of leadership” and “change” the blacks stayed home. How do I know? I know because we went to the black sections of towns and there they were, not caring it was an election. Not caring that this candidate understood VERY WELL African American issues. They didn’t show up. They didn’t volunteer, They didn’t donate, they didn’t even vote. So, you can chalk HFJ loss in this state to the African American vote. Congratulations African Americans…
Next lets move on to the illustrious Governor Phil Bredesen and his passions for Obama. Well, the governor couldn’t find his way out of the driveway in Nashville to campaign for HFJ. HFJ and Bredesen are FAR closer to each other in fiscal and social policy than NoBama ever THOUGHT about being with the governor. The governor has done NOTHING to actually help Democrats, including skipping EVERY SINGLE invitation from this county and other county Democratic parties. So, I find it halarious, now, that Bredesen is running up to Ohio. It is abundantly clear that his “helping” Obama is all about what Obama is going to serve up to him. Besides I do believe that Bredesen is still trying to evaluate the performance given by the Clintons at the DNC and see if it lives up to his expectations of “full throated” endorsement through “almost method acting.” Direct quote from the Governor this week!
Now let’s talk about Al Gore and his campaign manager Donna Brazile. Of course the candidate is responsible for his/her own candidacy. But, it is unbelievable to me that the almighty, all knowing, her momma taught her to follow the rules, headshaking, finger waving, CNN lie spewing, flamewaving, lets coronate “the one,” must be new BFF with Oprah Winfrey, Donna Brazile could NOT figure out that if Florida was the centerpiece, Tennessee needed to be at least on the table for Al Gore.
Obama is going to lose this state by large margins. Both the DNC and RNC placed the Tennessee delegates towards the back. That alone indicates that Democrats feel it’s lost and Republicans feel it’s theirs. In fact as of last night Democracy for America (DFA) website had a map titled “50-state strategy” which had Tennessee in Red. So, even an organization that is run by the brother of the Dem Party national chairman has TN in red. I guess so much for taking the party to every state, including the guy in the red pickup truck with the confederate flag.
Obama made ZERO overtures to Tennessee in the primary and has missed important events in this state (like 40th anniversary of MLK’s assassination, he gave a passing comment in a speech in INDIANA). Which need I say is what Obama does best, gives “leg tingling” speeches.
So, it’s going to be fun, this round, to watch the little Obamites run around trying to convince everyone that “the nominee” represents everything to everyone and that if you don’t vote for him, why you must be a racist. Which all harkens back to the opening comment about getting the blacks out to vote and it comes down to, if you’re black you must vote for him because you’re black and if you’re white, if you don’t vote for him, then you’re a racist.
Dances,
Your post is very powerful and moving. You seem to be living your passion right now and we are all gifted for you presence here. THANK YOU!!!!
WE CAN DO THIS!
I was going to hold this off for a few days, but let me run this today, this minute, the below brilliant article from the well known correspondent Charles Krauthammer, from the Washington Post.
Note this was written this past February, 2008.
EVERYONE – Please wade through it. It is great!
This is the nominee of the Democratic Party that just met in Denver.
Well, America…. I think we will speak differently on November 4th election day, and Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin will be elected, and will be inaugurated on January 20th 2009.
We can do this!
Thank you for your attention.
Common Sense 12
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The Audacity of Selling Hope
By Charles Krauthammer, The Washington Post
Friday, February 15, 2008
There’s no better path to success than getting people to buy a free commodity. Like the genius who figured out how to get people to pay for water: bottle it (Aquafina was revealed to be nothing more than reprocessed tap water) and charge more than they pay for gasoline. Or consider how Google found a way to sell dictionary nouns– boat, shoe, clock — by charging advertisers zillions to be listed whenever the word is searched.
And now, in the most amazing trick of all, a silver-tongued freshman senator has found a way to sell hope. To get it, you need only give him your vote. Barack Obama is getting millions.
This kind of sale is hardly new. Organized religion has been offering a similar commodity — salvation — for millennia. Which is why the Obama campaign has the feel of a religious revival with, as writer James Wolcott observed, a “salvational fervor” and “idealistic zeal divorced from any particular policy or cause and chariot-driven by pure euphoria.”
“We are the hope of the future,” sayeth Obama. We can “remake this world as it should be.” Believe in me and I shall redeem not just you but your country — nay, we can become “a hymn that will heal this nation, repair this world, and make this time different than all the rest.”
And believe they do. After eight straight victories — and two more (Hawaii and Wisconsin) almost certain to follow — Obama is near to rendering moot all the post-Super Tuesday fretting about a deadlocked convention with unelected superdelegates deciding the nominee. Unless Hillary Clinton can somehow do in Ohio and Texas on March 4 what Rudy Giuliani proved is almost impossible to do — maintain a big-state firewall after an unrelenting string of smaller defeats — the superdelegates will flock to Obama. Hope will have carried the day.
Interestingly, Obama has been able to win these electoral victories and dazzle crowds in one new jurisdiction after another, even as his mesmeric power has begun to arouse skepticism and misgivings among the mainstream media.
ABC’s Jake Tapper notes the “Helter-Skelter cult-ish qualities” of “Obama worshipers,” what Joel Stein of the Los Angeles Times calls “the Cult of Obama.” Obama’s Super Tuesday victory speech was a classic of the genre. Its effect was electric, eliciting a rhythmic fervor in the audience — to such rhetorical nonsense as “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. (Cheers, applause.) We are the change that we seek.”
That was too much for Time’s Joe Klein. “There was something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism,” he wrote. “The message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is.”
You might dismiss as hyperbole the complaint by the New York Times’s Paul Krugman that “the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality.” Until you hear Chris Matthews, who no longer has the excuse of youth, react to Obama’s Potomac primary victory speech with “My, I felt this thrill going up my leg.” When his MSNBC co-hosts tried to bail him out, he refused to recant. Not surprising for an acolyte who said that Obama “comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament.”
I’ve seen only one similar national swoon. As a teenager growing up in Canada, I witnessed a charismatic law professor go from obscurity to justice minister to prime minister, carried on a wave of what was called Trudeaumania.
But even there the object of his countrymen’s unrestrained affections was no blank slate. Pierre Trudeau was already a serious intellectual who had written and thought and lectured long about the nature and future of his country.
Obama has an astonishingly empty paper trail. He’s going around issuing promissory notes on the future that he can’t possibly redeem. Promises to heal the world with negotiations with the likes of Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Promises to transcend the conundrums of entitlement reform that require real and painful trade-offs and that have eluded solution for a generation. Promises to fund his other promises by a rapid withdrawal from an unpopular war — with the hope, I suppose, that the (presumed) resulting increase in American prestige would compensate for the chaos to follow.
Democrats are worried that the Obama spell will break between the time of his nomination and the time of the election, and deny them the White House.
WOW 2 POINT LEAD.
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BEST NEWS YET
THE BEST WILL BE WHEN THIS IS OVER AND WE WIN THE ELECTION. RASMUSSEN SHOWS A SLIGHT LEAD FOR OBAMA STILL. BUT WE SHALL SEE.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH ATTACKS IN MY LIFE ON THE INTERNET. INCREDIBLE. DISGRACEFUL. OBAMA SHOULD BE LOCKED UP. HE IS DOING CHICAGO SLUM STYLE ALLY WAY SCUM ATTACKS.
#499 bruce55555
Honest to God, I do not care if they are or not. Our focus in on the GE and the corrupt DNC.
These people have gotten enough attention for their bad behavior. I will not waste my precious energy on them.
#497 Lillibet
Yes, I saw it, and I’m glad you liked them. It took me the better part of four hours to craft them. I was extremely disappointed that the DNC did not release commemorative postcards for the convention, so I made my own.
All of you who asked for one should be receiving it within days.
I am honored to be able to give you a little bit of Denver to treasure.
Proof is in the pudding as my mom use to say.
BO did not go after the corrupt government in Illinois or in our city of Chicago.His mentors have taught him Chicago style politics.He apparently thinks that it is OK .If he didnt try to clean up his own back yard,How does anyone truly believe he will clean up Washington??
Is PUMA just for women? Are women going to vote for Palin just because she is a woman? I don’t believe so. I am a professional male in my mid 40’s. I have been a Hillary supporter from the very beginning. Why? Because of the issues she has worked so hard on for years and she was the best person for the job.
Period.
Not because she was a woman (although I found this refreshing). He might be able to convince democratic woman to come over to his side. But from what I have been reading, I think Obama is going to have an uphill battle trying to get votes from people like me.
Why?
What has disgusted me is that the democratic primary became a corrupt, voter disenfranchising, biased process in which supposed life-long democrats found it acceptable to viciously attack Hillary based on her Gender. I also found it outrageously hypocritical that so many people wanted Obama to win largely because of his race.
Wasn’t this the color blind party?
These same people now have the audacity to lecture me about the issues and how important this election is. Huh? Well if the election was so important, then why did they anoint a candidate that was clearly the unqualified of the two?
Because they are hypocrites who have their own agenda.
I am now an Independent who is voting (and campaigning) for McCain. I am doing so because I believe he is the more qualified candidate that represents a more centrist viewpoint. I also want to send a clear message to the DNC leadership that they need to go. Hopefully, when all is said and done and it is clear that they are the ones who divided this party and lost this election, they will be replaced with competent, non biased individuals.
If this is done, then I will return to the Democratic Party.
To vote for Obama is to send a clear message to these people that not only can they can get away with what they have done, but rewarded as well.
Not a chance…
Oh Good Lord.
It’s hard to believe that people can be so vile. I am sorry that you and yours have had to endure such viciousness. Sadly, having been a blogger in the past, I understand that you actually must read through that type of garbage in order to weed out the trolls, and I know it’s not an easy thing to do.
I stated in my first comment that I’m not a Democrat, but a tried and true Republican who, like many of my fellow Republicans, have experienced some of the very same emotions regarding our own party that you have experienced with your own. And, although we may not share, precisely, the same ideals we do share a passion for our country and, as a woman, I understand utterly the feelings of being overlooked and underestimated.
Your organization is to be admired for the level of, well, organization, and passion for your cause. You have created a sounding board that has now come to a place where differences of opinion are welcome and debated in a positive manner. My guess would be that those who come here (or to other, conservative blogs, that I visit) and spout such nonsense wouldn’t know a positive emotion nor principled ideal is it slapped them in the face.
I have friends with whom I disagree about their politics and I have friends whose spiritual beliefs differ from mine and, frankly, when a bond is formed between those with differing points of view I find that it enriches both parties: Their points of view are expanded, deeper understanding is created, and a devotion to defending the other’s right to their point of view becomes tantamount.
That is what you have created here and it deserves to be preserved…and admired.
I hope that you won’t mind if I continue to drop by.
Take care,
JMFlynny
#488 prowlland good for you , you hit him hard with that and I’m gonna use that email and hit him with his sick humor he will be getting the double whammy today.lol. I feel he is not embarrassed enough over it until it comes out in the media and he has to apologize to millions for his rude horrible comment. Thank you so much for the email
diva
many women think the same thing too
Oops, that last sentence (“Any ideas…” )was from the original post.
507 kelligesq
wow! veeerrryyyy interesting, and I will.
#510 pink puma, It is my understanding that they look at the voter registration numbers and count those registered to the same party as those who will vote for the candidate in the polls. Do you know if this is true? I’ve tried to change my voter registration from dem, but my state doesn’t allow it and am wondering how many like myself, who won’t be voting for bo, are included in his numbers.
#511 Diva2
I think it is sooo interesting that they are talking about us on Meet The Press. They just about launched BO! I loved Tim Russert, but he was one of the cheerleaders. The fact that they would even mentioned us is amazing. Andrea Mitchell dasi they will need HC to go after her, but that it will be soo hard to do this. They say they need the press to demonize her.
Ha !! So late I am… but my head was spinning with thoughts just as soon as my eyes popped opened…
ANNA 7000 AND OTHERS that asked :
You were asking last week, what Murphy’s plan was in the prowl to hand write thank you notes to Geraldine Ferraro. I think it is clear now that it was two pronged -ONEwas really to thank her for speaking out for Hillary and her supporters , TWO was to plant a seed (a successful harvest I may add) that there are hundreds of us PUMAs out in cyberspace that really felt that she was our voice… AND Geraldine Ferraro, stepped up to the plate and gave us a voice again – when she talked about us on Fox. She now knows about PUMA and she does not question if we are REAL – unlike Greta who still wonders if PUMA was real.
Unreal people couldn’t have written her all those heart felt letters by hand on good stationery and stuck a stamp on it and sent it with a good wishes.
So the snail took wings… as Antifish said and that was the intent that we could not spell out at that time. Now, if we needed a voice again, I bet Ms. Ferraro will be willing to listen.
Oh, in my phone call, she told me that “Hillary’s name will be put in nomination, just as Jesse Jackson who got ## votes. I interrupted her to tell her that PUMA sent out thousands of emails and made hundreds of phone calls to the DNC and delegates, asking and protesting that Hillarys name be put in nomination. I am sure she didn’t know this was happening at PUMA. She was giving me info that I already knew because of this blog and it tells me that folks, we have something here in our hands… more later…
I watched his acceptance speech,in it he spoke about our first amendment rights,there was an implied threat to us about what we were saying and that we lived in serious times on and on.It worried me,I have been looking for a text version as I am not interested in hearing it again.
I was a lurker on this sight for along time before I posted for the first time,when I did first tho,no one on day shift took much interest in me or my comments. As a matter of fact I was confronted on several occasions,for having what I thought was important info for the cause we were trying to achieve.
I did many of the prowls as well as working with jbjd on the legal papers we sent out about binding pledged delegates.
In the last couple of days I stepped back,I was neglecting everything for this sight and what I thought was our cause. I even learned how to make videos and put 3 up on youtube. Since I heard his speech I have struggled with the issue of taking them down,not the ones about Hillary but the one I call “Eve of Destruction”,if he wins the white house there will be no freedom of speech,he said as much.
On night shift there were a couple that did however welcome me at least which caused me to feel more comfortable so I posted more late at night.
My personal belief is that if we continue with an attack on his bid for the presidency, he will use every underhanded weapon at his disposal.
I grew up during the 50s, 60s and 70s, I know where I was when JFK was elected,where I was when he was shot,the same with Bobby and MLK. I remember hiding in a bread truck during what they called the race riots.
MLK believed that Gods word and love and good men coming together would bring about the change he dreamed of,but there was a fringe element, Malcolm X and the Black panthers who believed that violence,fear and intimidation were better tools. Many people of color believe and live MLK ideas of faith hope and love,there are those of course who believe the fringe groups way is the only way. XO believes in the second group, he is hostile and unpredictable,,he has learned the way to live in the white world of his mother without ever realizing who he really is. He is full of anger and hatred fostering on the belief that somehow we owe him for our history. This is what we are fighting,I believe Hillary was warning us that this group of people who now have communism behind them are trying to take over our country,this fight is not about party,it is about country! I am not a fear monger,but I am afraid. What Murphy posted is nothing compared to where and what they will do to shut us up.My question is what are we going to do?Are we willing to fight and be slanderd in our own backyards?Are we still in it to win it? THEY SILENCED HILLARY,one of the strongest woman I know.If we cant even recognize people on this sight then we are already devided. I have not felt welcome and I have seen other pumas leave as well. I myself have considered leaving. We need each other if we stay in this,some of the very people Murphy has recognized have been the loudest at dissent. The fight we fight is not about who has the best platform,XO is lying,he did nothing in any position he held for anyone but his wife and his terrorists friends,he sold more of our country.
I just read where Chicago is shutting down its state parks and closing the Lincoln house as well as some other things because of his style government.
If we are not united this effort will fail. We need strong leadership and direction,and we need it every day,we cannot fight to win without it. If you cut off the head your enemy surrenders. THIS CANNOT BE A FIGHT ABOUT PLATFORM BUT ABOUT FLAG AND HONOR AND COUNTRY FIRST.
re #513 dem 4 hill
the tone of your post has some mean spirited and racist elements to it..
sorry,maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror
52 antifish on 08.30.08 at 11:38 pm #44 Rancho,
Sorry for leaving out the attribution. That’s from Zogby who is a huge Obamabot. I know it pained him to have to report this. Obama’s post-convention bounce was completely neutralized by the Palin announcement. May I say to the Dimocrats, I told you so?
Seeing as Zogby has been a Clinton hater for some time – from a comment he made on HuffPo, perhaps as long as 16 years – the situation is likely even worse.
I recall an article from mid-week saying how Obama would have the chance (on Thursday) to get a 10-point bounce from his speech and “nomination”…but once again, he was outflanked by the media-savvy GOP….
Interesting read. Still working on a possible prowl for Ohio voting. Anyone interested, please e-mail me at myhalligan1@gmail.com
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/pi_20080712_4220.php
Michel Moore is a contradictory figure. He has so much potential for good, but he doesn’t seem to be able to harness it. Of course, he doesn’t want anyone in the hurricane zone to suffer. He was simply making a glib remark, that he wouldn’t make “out loud” if he were mature enough.
While I am making negative comments, I would like to say that Joe Scarborough has just lost any respect that I had for him. I believe that he is drinking the kool aid. I heard him describe Hillary’s convention speech as “pedestrian”. I had a pretty good idea about what he meant but I looked up the word anyway.
PEDESTRIAN: (3RD MEANING) LACKING INTEREST OR IMAGINATION; prosaic; ordinary and dull
So much for Scarborough’s intelligence…
MURPHY
#515 Commonsense 12:
“idealistic zeal divorced from any particular policy or cause and chariot-driven by pure euphoria”
He is even divorced from the Democratic Party, itself. he will bash Democrats anytime he gets the chance. His people hijacked the platform. He never refers to himself being a Democrat. He gives signals that he’s not part of the party, his nominating speech that started with “as a lifelong registered republican” and that damn red tie he wore for accepting the nomination to be the Democratic nominee.
He is truly a third-party candidate who used this party to get the nomination and I think in germany we saw with his “citizen of the world” followed by bashing of the United States, that he’s taking his whole independence to a whole different level. Not really wanted to be associated as being connected to the United States to the world. I’m very concerned about his talk of “a new world order” I bet you if we had a president of Earth to the galaxy he would disassociate himself from the planet. He is an independent who uses people and organizations to gain power but feels no allegiance or alliance with those organizations or people.
#65 antifish on 08.30.08 at 11:43 pm #46 snowtiger,
I too am very skeptical that 6% of Republicans would vote for BO. Why? He’s further left than I am and I would never consider joining the Republican Party. I think they are using the stats from the primaries when the Repubs were voting for BO to defeat Hillary.
When Obama talks his “post-patisan” talk, Republicans hear “I will cave in to Republican demands” because they know that that is what he actually means.
#488 prowlland
I need a reference source for the information you posted. Thanks.
“partisan” sheesh, can I type today, or what?
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PUMAS
If you want the leadership of this PAC to be able to rest and recharge, you MUST stop sniping at each other for the slightest perceived threats.
I am moderating this board while Murphy gets some well deserved rest.
If you don’t behave yourselves, I will sic MamaPUMA on you. And as Dances said, she’s not a woman to be messed with!
re#535 sergei
im sure some extreme right wing republicans will vote for obama for the same reason as some democrats will vote for mccain– as a protest vote
Pink Puma : )
#526 Hillary2008
Well, we certainly know the press are experts at demonizing people! And yes, I am also surprised they even mentioned PUMAS. I love it because everytime PUMAS get press, that means nobo DOESN’T. No one ever could have imagined that PUMAS would be on as many national and local stations, in newspapers and on You tube in the past 2 3/4 months!! We HAVE made an impact and that scares the heck out of the DNC and nobo and bots.
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!
Pink Puma : )
#526 Hillary2008
Well, we certainly know the press are experts at demonizing people! And yes, I am also surprised they even mentioned PUMAS. I love it because everytime PUMAS get press, that means nobo DOESN’T. No one ever could have imagined that PUMAS would be on as many national and local stations, in newspapers and on You tube in the past 2 3/4 months!! We HAVE made an impact and that scares the heck out of the DNC and nobo and bots.
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!
#538 Maryland
Thank you. None of us need the sniping.
PUMAs,
It’s okay to disagree, but disagree on the topic, not the sender. And yes, don’t get mama or dances mad at you
Pink Puma,
I think this whole campaign has been racist and to start off this article with getting the blacks to the polls just continues to endorse the idea “vote for Obama because he is black”
prowlland
Please, I need a source for the information on #488
To Pink Puma #539… Right wingers still unhappy with McCain will vote for Bob Barr
#499 bruce55555 on 08.31.08 at 2:26 pm
Does anyone else think that #387 4hillary is a paid obamabot?
Hey Bruce. I do believe this person is a bot. Go through all their posts and decide for yourself. I thought this was a Nobama site. All this person does is promote strife, bash McCain or GOP, and use Roe v Wade scare tactics. That is characteristic of a bot to me.
California Pumas
Are there any CA peeps who want to attend Sheehan’s volunteer meetings on Tues. nights with me to help take down Pelosi in November?
Hi Diva,
I’m trying to get out of here to pick blackberries. Saw your picture. Now I have a face with the name. Wonderful. Glad you made the trip. Hope all is well.
If the media wants to poke on my life, I can say it right here and right now:
I’m MADLY IN LOVE with my cat “Belle”. It’s the longest relationship I’ve ever had with any species, 15 years.
So there you have it!
Hello all my Puma Family!!!!! Yes, I made it home safely, and my family sure did miss me!!!
I had a wonderful time meeting all my friends from the blog, it was such a great experience to be in Denver!!!
I will never forget the friends I have made, nor the difference I feel we made in Denver.
I personally was interviewed by at least fifty different television, radio, and newspapers. I never in my life thought I could be such an informed and relaxed interview, it was amazing. We knew what to say and how to say it, we never used any form of profanity or insults to state our case, we simply aren’t that kind of people. We Pumas Have Class!!!
I could go on and on about the great experience and the great friends that I made, but alas I need to leave space for the other bloggers.
Just know this, I thank each and every one of you who got me to Denver, your selfless actions provided me with a once in a lifetime opportunity and for that I am eternally grateful. God Bless You All From The Bottom Of My Heart!
Those Pumas whom I now call friends, you know who you are, I love you and cant wait until we meet again.
I hope that IGOR made it back safely from the protest, he was carrying a sign about BO and terrorism, and I know the Obama-bots wont take that lightly, so Igor, hope you are safe.
Je’Amour, you are a lovely lady and I hope to see you again in this lifetime.
I love each and every one I met, it was as though we have been friends all our lives, I wish I had enough room to mention you all, but you know who you are!!!
Laurey, Anti, Edwin, Monica, SouthJersey, Jessie, Marnie, Janessa, Shannon, Mama, Marcella, Go, thanks to you all for being my friends.
I came to Denver with one friend, I left Denver with many many more!!!
Thank you all for caring about me, and marching with me, and chanting with me: Tell me what democracy looks like—This is what democracy looks like!!! That chant and You can’t win without us and I own my Vote, were my favorite chants, my voice still hasn’t recovered!!!
Sorry for the long post, but I had such an experience I could go on and on. I will write more later, just know that I appreciate each and every Puma, we are in a fight for democracy, a fight against the corruption and fraud, and we can make great changes happen–together!!! We have the power to make real change happen in our party, and we will!!!
One Love
Div a2
It is the choice thing that gets them worried. They can’t believe that we would vote against our own interest. Well, we have educated ourselves and are not afraid. Isn’t that akin to using terror to make us fall in line? What is so sad is watching Tom Brokaw become upset when anyone says anything positive about Palin. I used to respect and admire him.
If there is a bot among us, then feeding them will only keep them around.
If I suspect someone, I shoot an email off to the moderator and let them handle it.
Wasting space on the blog trying to reason with them takes us off our mark.
Maryland, who is sniping?
I’m not seeing it. Anyway, if you are going to be online, you better grow a thicker skin.
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What the haters fail to realize is their efforts to disrupt are having an unwanted effect: PUMA is solidifying and growing stronger.
Let them hate. Rational people move away from hate – which has the effect of swelling PUMA’s ranks.
#555 goanderson
Well said.
#519 chicago4truth on 08.31.08 at 2:39 pm Proof is in the pudding as my mom use to say.
BO did not go after the corrupt government in Illinois or in our city of Chicago.His mentors have taught him Chicago style politics.He apparently thinks that it is OK .If he didnt try to clean up his own back yard,How does anyone truly believe he will clean up Washington??
He not only didn’t clean up corruption, he contributed to it: he left his constituents worse off than he found them by helping that slumlorsResko scam the state of IL, and on top of that helped the convicted criminal Auchi scam US taxpayers by getting him a never-completed contract to build a power plant in post-invasion Iraq.
#553 DaddysDarling
I saw your picture from Denver. It’s so great to see faces. Thank you for sharing all your wonderful experiences and thank you for being there for us. By the way, did goanderson let the pigs out? (Its an inside joke)
I find it absolutely halarious that I’ve been called a racist in this campaign. It is true that African Americans didn’t turn out to vote for an African American senatorial candidate. They could have made the difference and chose not to. I’m offended at the continuation of get blacks out to vote. What has he truly offered African Americans? He is not even connected in ANY WAY to African Americans (except the wonderful and inspirational Rev. Wright).
After bashing the clintons about being racists, James Clyburn talked about going home and crying like a baby because Obama got the nomination.
So, Pink Puma, I’m angry over how race has been used but I am DAMN sick and tired of being called a racist.
I just worked on a campaign in this state where the white congressman has done far more for African Americans and all americans young, old, rich, poor, and represents EVERYTHING that the democratic party holds dear. he had to run against a black woman who rolled out KKK ads and accused this man of essentially being a member of the KKK. I watched local black county commissioners come out and say, this is a majority black district and MUST be represented by a black person in congress.
So, maybe you need to step back and re-read what I just said before calling me a racist.
“Jesse jackson ran here in 84 and 88 and ran a good campaign and obama has run a good campaign”
#557 hillary2008
Sometimes the synapses fire correctly! lol
ok I’m off to practice football with my kids.. peace for now
always keep in mind that unfortunately in politics there are always some people who have opportunistic goals in mind whether to create for themselves little cash-cows “lempires” or use the movement as a “resume” to look for some plum position as a political advisor..
I heard Palin and McCain are going to the south. BO called in. As a govenor, she is trained to take charge of these types of disasters. She will probably look very Presidential! BO can’t take time off the campagn trail as his numbers are not too good.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews2.dbm?ID=1547
FOR A RULL READING OF THE ZOGBY POLL WHICH JUST CAME OUT.
552 bellecat
funny!
I’m madly in love with my cat Bruce and always use his name, my name’s Betty.
Everyone must be waking up. It’s getting harder to post again.
#555 goanderson
Ditto.
WAKE UP women and men…
GLORIA Steinem is a perfect example of WHAT NOT TO DO. She should be ASHAMED and I am personally going to call her tuesday and take her to task. YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR BULLSHIT UNLESS YOU ARE BULLSHIT…A VOTE IS AN ENDORSEMENT AND I AM ASHAMED OF HER!!
Can you imagine, for example, Susan B. Anthony, voting for BO? Or Harriet Tubman voting for David Duke? Or Murphy voting for BO? HELL NO.
Gloria S. is the reason why women, in 2008, face more danger IN THE HOME than anywhere else, why eating disorders kill over 1million women a year, why child abuse is at an all time high and why WOMEN’s RIGHTS are considered a joke or a passing fad.
WE CAN NO LONGER BE G0ALONGs…WE CANNOT JUST KEEP SWALLOWING….WE CANNOT JUST KEEP PLAYING NICE….you Do NOT win a god damn thing by doing the SAME GOD DAMN THING….
WE MUST DEFEAT BO. This is the war. We need to devise a plan and follow it. We don’t need to play nice, kiss and make up, unless we are not serious about change.
Hillary did NOT RUN for sec. of state, she ran for PRESIDENT. AND SHE WON, and they stole it from her. And if the best we can do is a pull a Gloria S. and go well I won’t ‘endorse’ him but I’ll vote for him I’m going to have a sex change tomorrow bec. I am simply tired of being a girl.
And if any of you did not realize that this is a war, you are naive. I wrote Murphy months ago telling her to be safe and careful. We are challenging the money, the powerful and the men AND the women who like the status quo. This is the epic battle between good and bad and if we don’t fight SMART and like MEN we will lose again and again and again…and I am tired of losing.
Geesh.
There are so many comments that I’m still going through them and missed some earlier.
No matter how positive and affirming experience it is to visit this site, if you are receiving actual threats or if your family has been threatened, you must do something. Conservative bloggers have experienced the same unhinged zeal but when it crosses a certain line, and your family is brought into the mix, it’s time to do something.
Jeff Goldstein at proteinwisdom.com had to take to court one particularly vile troll after the threats and intimidation spread to his family (even his very young son). With blogging being such a relatively new form of communication I believe that he faced particular challenges in pursuing his claim. Jeff is not the sort of person who would withhold his experience due to differing political views. I’m certain that he would be happy to share his experience and offer advice as to how you might best handle those who cross the line.
Best wishes.
Out of here. Blackberries (the kind you eat) are awaiting. Bless to all.
I just received a taped call from McCain who said he is “reaching out to all independent minded voters like yourself”, and he is sending me an absentee ballot “to make sure your vote counts”.
I wonder if some of my complaints written to just about everybody in the State of Florida that my vote is not being counted got somewhere…oh well.
To all the the Alabama, Mississippi, Lousiana and Texas PUMA’s: Ya’ll stay safe from Gustav.
Addendun to #558 – and let’s not forget taking a bribe from The Crown Family Trust to look the other way while they shipped Maytag jobs overseas after promising the union he would do something about it – (maybe they should have asked him WHAT he would do about it!). And taking a bribe from Exelon to fatally weaken the the nuclear-energy-industry-regulating bill he himself wrote….sheesh.
#553 DaddysDarlin
A pleasure to meet you as well, along with all the other pumas. I too have gained, and welcome some wonderful new people into my life!
We are all comrades in Fighting the Good Fight.
#549 Sisterluck and #499 Bruce55555
The fact remains is that 4Hillary did not come into the blog with guns blazing and spewing rhetoric.
4Hillary DID post respectfully with legitimate questions regarding platforms and policies and misinformation about PUMA PAC in an attempt to investigate both sides of the story. I admire that.
I have no problem allowing respectful posts even if they may not align directly with our POV. I welcome them. Communication is our most powerful weapon and we must be clear, concise and free of bias and disdain to accurately reflect the PUMA PAC movement and our goals/mission.
It is entirely possible that this commenter, along with many onlookers, are experiencing doubt.
The more we educate the RESPECTFUL queries in a respectful manner, the more CORRECT information goes out the door of our blog to the masses.
Please follow our request to not single out people as Trolls or attack posters. Any suspicions or questions should be handled privately via email to me or Murphy or Mama. Although we may not respond to you directly, you may rest assured we WILL evaluate and take action or not.
Thanks!
Has anybody heard about the Berg’s lawsuit?
I can believe that is been more than week and they haven’t served him the papers…
Hello Darraugh,
not sure you will read this.. but please know you have inspired so many in my family. I am in my 20s. This election has shown me what it feels like to be a second class citizen in america.
My parents always told me I could be whatever I wanted to be, and I believed it, until this year. Now, I have seriously doubts, I feel like the invisible burka in this society has been made visible this year.
I want to thank you so much for all your efforts, I know you get hate mail like the ones you posted above, but also know you have many more people in numbers who admire you for your courage to stand up to what is right and the tenacity to give going.
As for me, I was going to vote for Mccain before, b/c I felt like he is more experienced than someone who has only 143 days in the Senate before running, and also with Palin as the VP, I have to admit I was in tears when I heard that. I had a smile on my face the whole day on Friday when I heard that.
I mean as soon as the fraud became a US senator he was running for president, while at the same time Palin was running the state of Alaska. I like Palin, alghouth I am pro-choice, I am not pro-abortion. To each woman her own, all I want is the choice, and from what I have read she is someone who understands this.
She cleaned up the state within 1 year.. what has BO done, EVER??… and frankly why are they comparing BO with Palin… BO is runing for the top job, Palin for the 2nd job. She has more executive experience than all 3 men.
Bo is nothing but a wimp and a sexist.. the first thing he says.. “she’s a great mom… “….ok.. I’m sure she is.. but personally this was like a slap in the face to me. I mean here she is, a governor with a over 80% approval rate.. and all the jerk can say is “she’s a great mom”
I will with pleasure campaign and vote for mccain/palin
the undemoratic party is now some radical leftist freak show that only demeans women and loves making fun of women. I have always voted democratic…. NOT THIS YEAR..
I will proudly cast my vote for mccain/palin.
The GOP will bring Rev. Wright back to the spotlight in October…when everyone is paying attention!!
re#547
ok but, on the other hand lets not give the obama campaign more ammuntion…. i also read 4hills post and I too thought thought it was mean spirited and had some racist undertones to it..
oops re#574
blessings, stay safe.
valleywitch
I’m not a bot.
I’M A SPARTAN!
I just picked Black grapes (they get black because they are ripe – sorry just a joke to follow the blackberry picker above post who had to explain why she is running out to pick blackberries) It seems black is a sacred word now – perhaps we should say a dark shade of grey berries ?
PINK PUMA – PLEASE BE WONDERFUL – IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM – email Maryland. Take it off the blog.
I am working my way through the blog and I am only on #96 and I wanted to make a comment to TexasPony. Your dilemma is understandable. I am a black woman. I never considered voting for Obama because he was black or for Hilary because she was a woman. I focus on the candidate(s) that have my core values. As a core person I value “integrity” and “humility”, neither of which I think Obama possess. There will be things on both sides that you will disagree with, but if you are true to your core values it will help you decide. Vote your values!!!
freddie…butI love blackberries
Kempion
I have thicker skin than you could ever know. Ask the PUMAs who were in Denver. If it could have been dished out, I and the PUMA point people got it.
It’s my heart that is softer than I would like to admit.
Denver was the most insanely busy atmosphere I have EVER been in. And I’m pretty experienced with dealing with large numbers of people with different needs and timetables. We are exhausted, as I’m sure all the PUMAs who attended can attest to.
People want Murphy and Mama and I to rest and recharge. We can not do so if the blog is rife with infighting. Mama PUMA already posted to that effect. I am simply reiterating her message.
REPOST & ACTION REQUIRED – KEEP REPOSTING SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT, THANKS
I posted this yesterday and I think it is very important for all Pumas to follow thru on this action. Murphy and the rest of the Grand Pumas are resting and I hope they will e-mail this to all pumas as a prowl. The importance of this is that in each particular state, there is a small window where anyone, ordinary citizens, can challenge Obama’s consitutional requirement to be on the ballot. We must try to get him knocked off, we can’t wait for the Repubs and if it works, we may get our Hillary back. Each state is different and I’ve been trying to find the laws for Florida and it’s been difficult. I intend to call my SOS tomorrow and ask where I can find them. If I get no answer, I’m going to send a challenge by snail mail, reiterating the issues Phil Berg raised in his lawsuit at obamacrimes.com. We want details, with specificity, the paper trail that leads to his citizenship, etc. Here’s Phil’s letter and a link to find the laws in your state.
Lady Hawkke,
When a person sends a letter to any State or Government Agency, it is always best that they sign their letters. Notarizing your signature is entirely up to you as it is not a requirement on any letter you may send The procedures of the Secretary of State and the laws surrounding them vary State to State. Whether you choose to send the letter via certified mail would be up to you. I, myself, would send the letter with a signature and return address and I would send it certified mail so I know the letter was received by the Agency and the exact date they received it. It would take a considerable amount of time to check and verify the laws for each State. As you can imagine, my office is extremely busy and this would take time to research the laws of other States. The Secretary of State in each state has a website, which will give the procedures for the individual who wishes to object to a candidate or request investigations. Have you checked the SOS website for Florida? When you ask for the laws governing Agencies, I cannot give a fast response, I must research the law for that particular State. Again, my office is extremely busy and we are working pretty much 7 days a week. Florida has a Division of Elections, that site is http://election.dos.state.fl.us/division/director.shtml When you pull the website, look to the left there is a pull down menu entitled “Opinions/Rules/Laws” If you click there, you will find a wealth of information for your State. This would be a great starting point, as you may find you have further questions. Phil
Dances with Pumas…may you live well forever
Daddy’sdarling–so glad you went to Denver and did us proud
Pink — when I start my army I want you on my team
#575 bellecat
how many days did he have to respond?
was it 20 ?
I am so proud of our PUMAs. I love reading the comments and hearing the diverse points of view. As one poster said earlier, and as I said on another thread, hearing everyone’s knowledge, perception, and insights enriches us all. I don’ t think that one perspective has to be “right” and others “wrong”. I think they all just interweave to form a rich tapestry of democracy. The most amazing phenomenon to me, is that I have learned so much and have learned to enlarge my own once narrow perspective. I have learned to challenge my own thinking and to investigate what ideas really mean beyond minimalized soundbites and hot-button issues. All ideas have multiple dimensions, and I for one, am richer for these dimensions. Thanks, PUMAs! May we continue to grow together.
bellecat too….spartans of the 21st century!!
598 Hillgirl
Very well said !
re#582
freddie
no one has attacked anyone here ..the criticism is based on substance of the posts.. all we are saying is not to let this site be used as more ammuntion for the obama campaign to go around and say we are all a bunch of racists..
do you have a problem with that??
I’m glad someone continues to document caucus fraud. See: http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/ There are many many more stories though.
Please don’t pay attention to trolls. They usually follow the same pattern. Several people have outlined how they work. I just ignore them. I also have a list of those people I know to be trolls by the comments they make. The moderators and regular bloggers know that we do not put up with racist or condescending language.
Best,
Lara08
574 MarylandPuma
not a problem – we’re all for one and one for all here, right?
This just in from Will:
Pumas, we need to monitor the polls in November:
http://www.eac.gov/voter/poll%20workers
Anyone agree / disagree with what I wrote? You know…many of the 18 million voters were men.
Hey PUMAs Does anyone know what Hillary is doing to help with the impending Gustav hurricane? If Obama/Biden are waiting it out, maybe Hillary can step in and show democratic support for the poor people in the wake of the hurricane. Is there a way to reach Hillary and ask her? It is shameful that Obama/Biden are going “to stay out of the way” .
#568 jenniforhillary
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR – OBAMA MUST NOT WIN
You have a LASER BEAM FOCUS that I like…we can accomplish so many if and when Obama loses… Once he looses, the DNC will know that all their tactics that they engaged will not be tolerated by the moderate American people. IT WILL BE A LESSON THEY WILL DISSECT AND LEARN FROM.
In that regard, we need to put some action together.
Day after day, just like we did before, there is a lot of talk and blogging.
We need a goal and a plan. I know the goal. Are you willing to put together a plan as you see it ? I LOVE your passion – I challenge you to put your thoughts together… if you were in charge…how do you propose you can use us, your band of bandits to make sure Obama does not win this election.
#556 Kempion,
I wholeheartedly agree. There are no better recruiters for our cause than those who spout their vile hatred at us. Just to think all this misguided energy that could be used to further Obama’s cause is actually growing our movement makes my heart swell with joy. I could almost hug an Obamabot right now (I’d need one of those biohazard suits though).
#586 ladyhawkke
I’m listening and I’m with you…should be our next Prowl!
Let’s get back on the horse, PUMAs.
#594 Bruce55555
Yup yup!
The snippy/sarcastic dialogue directed at a specific member by another member is what I call infighting.
If you watch carefully, members begin to take sides and it escalates – something I want to avoid.
We really are all in this together or we’re standing alone.
What PUMA has accomplished in less than 3 months is nothing short of astounding, and history in the making. We are proudly part of a 2nd American Revolution.
As far as those posts – no surprise here. To me they reflect not only the general lack of character inherent (from day 1) in the BHO campaign, and the current DNC, but also a sense of genuine fear that the corrupt BHO and DNC factors may have just overplayed their hand.
Given no other choice, I will now vote for the person I feel has a core value system most closely aligned to that of Hillary Clinton. Nobama.
“We are the ones no one expected”…and Murphy is one of our Generals in the fight to take our country and party back from the lunatic fringe.
With respect, gratitude, recognition of how hard the work you are doing is and pride, I say “Thank you Murphy” Be careful, and know that we do have your back .
Reposting from downstairs– pardon my confuzzlement about the simultaneous threads.
I think picking Palin was a smart move strategically, on a lot of levels. I also think we need to be alert to the attempts to portray her as “just” being a woman, as if she had *no* other assets or qualifications.
I find it especially priceless for Camp O to be jumping on her “lack of experience” as “dangerous” for someone a “heartbeat away from the Presidency”. Hmmm…. how about having the experienced person leading the ticket, and the country? Concept.
But it also goes to show a “lack of understanding” of tedious details like the 25th amendment to the Constitution. You know, the one that addresses filling a VP vacancy? How if the VP is godforbid called upon to take over the presidency, a VP will be selected to replace him/her? It’s kind of ironic that BO is counting on Biden’s experience on his own ticket… but seems to forget (conveniently) that if Palin were to become Pres, SHE would then have a VP.
I don’t know about you all, but I feel a bit more concerned about the qualifications on the top of the ticket which WILL 100% certainly be called to action, versus those of the VP who *may* need to serve, and again would HAVE a VP of his/her own.
Also amusing to hear the same people who defend O’s “experience” as community organizer and state senator downplaying Palin’s “mere” 2 years as Governor, and harping on how remote Alaska is, and how small the town she represented was. Alaska may be remote, but given its strategic importance (oil) she’s probably made more significant decisions than O has. Especially since a Governor can’t just vote “present”.
And on the issue of foreign policy experience, well… the O campaign taught us long ago that she just needs to go on tour for a couple weeks and that will take care of it. Oh and it could help to pick a VP with experience… oh wait! Her runningmate already has that base covered. Silly me.
But seriously– I think one of the most important things we can do right now regardless of how we feel politically or plan to vote is stand up to what’s happening AGAIN. They all want the narrative to be “Inexperienced WOMAN Palin chosen for being a WOMAN to appeal to WOMEN voters upset about how Hillary (did I mention she’s a WOMAN too?) was treated! Republicans think choosing a WOMAN will convince WOMEN to vote for them! [insert threats re: RVW here]. Do you want this inexperienced WOMAN to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency?” I think it’s the Democrats banking on us not being smart enough to come to our own conclusions. Won’t see that she is the only one w/ exec experience, that they are accusing her of the same stuff they defended O against… won’t look at how she actually (shock) lived up to campaign promises (ie reform). And we certainly wouldn’t read something so dull as the CONSTITUTION to discover that their argument about the VP and “experience” is pretty much moot since a new VP would be picked.
I just can’t get over O harping on the “experience” factor now. Priceless really. I’d liken it to the pot and the kettle, but I’ll just say it’s a tad ironic.
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And if you haven’t already heard the beginnings:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palin-jokes.htm
Deja vu.
All I can say is, if this represents the “future of America” we’re in big trouble:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/MsSame-MILF.htm
If that’s the change they’re hawking, I’m not buying.
re#568 jennifer
“and if we don’t fight SMART and like MEN we will lose again and again and again…”
what kind of sexist crap is that???
568 jenniforhillary~~~ THAT post was so right on, I printed it.
599 antifish
LOL!
Go ANDERSON :
I can bet you all the money I have, that Obama’s followers have already got a plan together to fix the polls if he does not look like he is winning.
This man and his followers will die to make sure that he is the President. As JENNIFOR HILLARY SAYS, THIS IS WAR, but we don’t know it. We prefer to argue Roe vs Wade or some bullshit . Argue it for the next 8 years when Obama is in power.. he will give us lots more to argue about.
Last night I got my first crank call at 2:30 am. It just so happens I was still up that late reading through the blog.
I don’t know if that call is a sign that more are to come or if it was a one-time thing. Don’t know if it’s bot related or some random stranger getting some bizarre kicks. I will assume it’s a bot since I don’t ever remember getting a call like that. The caller knew my name which also makes me suspect a bot.
I’m more determined than ever to follow through with my goal of NO Obama. If that’s the quality of humanity that comes out of his type of leadership — NO THANKS.
And BTW — after reading the blog comments last night — I was up late composing my email to Mort Kondracke. I wrote the following for anyone who might enjoy reading it:
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Dear Mr. Mort Kondracke —
I once watched a Fox show shortly after the primaries ended in which a panel of all “men” sat around and discussed if sexism really existed in the media during the primaries. I wasn’t completely familiar with all the Fox reporters and the names of those men at the time — and not sure — but I think you might have been on that panel. Of course all of the men on this panel confidently came to the conclusion that sexism did not exist. And someone on the panel — it might have been you or your partner on the beltway show — closed the discussion with the statement, “It doesn’t matter because Clinton is gone and good riddance.”
I couldn’t believe my ears. Sexism in all it’s glory in that concluding statement. Would any of the men on that panel dared to have said “good riddance” regarding any male candidates? If it was Senator Obama that had conceded the race, would any of you dared to have said, “Obama is gone and good riddance”? I don’t think so. This is sexism in it’s fullest in case you have trouble recognizing it.
I mention this incident because now that Palin has been chosen as a VP candidate — I see the same sexism gearing up in many of the media reports. So far you are among the worse offenders. If I hear you make the Obama narrative point one more time that there is “no way Clinton women will be willing to cross over to vote for the McCain – Palin ticket because they won’t be willing to risk the overturn of Roe v. Wade,” I will personally find my way to your studio to bitch slap you and thereby give you a good reason to be the sexist pig that you are.
It’s so refreshing when a MAN such as yourself professes to know so much about how women feel about their uteruses. Save your faux concern and let’s get real… and stop being a slave to the Obama narrative so you have a shot at salvaging some respect with the women around the world… not to mention respect as a credible reporter rather than the in-the-tank-hacks for Obama talking points.
Let me tell you what the Hillary supporters think of the McCain – Palin ticket. We love McCain for picking Palin and we adore Palin as a VP choice. McCain is brilliant and from what we’ve heard and seen — Palin is equally brilliant. She is not only a wonderful alternative to the NO Obama ticket (that we refuse to support) but she completely energizes the McCain ticket. I will not be held hostage by the DNC’s fear tactics of Roe v. Wade and cannot wait to run to the polls to vote for McCain and Palin.
Not only do I feel Palin is completely qualified to be VP — but she blows Obama out of the water if you really insist on emphasizing the experience issue. So let me make this perfectly clear. Not only are we confident in her abilities as a VP — but we are confident in her abilities as a potential President from day one. I (along with many others) are not impressed with Obama attempting to make it sound as if the thought of Palin being a “heartbeat away from the Presidency,” is something to fear. And is that meant to be a threat from the Obama camp? Why are no journalists asking this question? They certainly would have jumped down Clinton’s throat if she had attempted to make such a statement (in that manner) about Obama and his VP. Another example of sexism maybe?
And since Palin has proven to take on corruption as her main political goals — maybe she can clean up the corruption in the Obama campaign, the DNC, and the good ole’ boys club of the media. Oh wait — that would mean you. I just realized why your so fanatical in pointing out her Obama-fabricated shortcomings. Are you (along with all other in-the-tank-for-Obama pundits) this threatened by the success of all women?
Let me just close with this thought: Sexism isn’t always as obvious as an off-colored joke about women but it can be a subtle double standard meant to favor men over women and diminish the validity of women’s abilities in the process. Not only is sexism unacceptable and inappropriate but it makes you appear unprofessional and ultimately diminishes your credibility. Please strive to take a higher road. And my apologies if I failed to take my own advice in that higher road when making my points (within this email) but sometimes a little shock value and taste of your own medicine is necessary to make you realize how offensive it can be.
Sincerely,
XXXXXX
PUMA Democrat
#556 Kempion
Hey, if you want my vote, please try to get your facts straight. Maryland Puma has a tougher skin than you can ever imagine. I saw her in action in Denver and trust me, I wouldn’t ever want to take her on. They are all EXHAUSTED!! This was a 24hour, 7 day process and very few slept. Darragh had alot of interiews she was doing and Maryland and Mama ran everything when Darragh was absent. So, as someone who expects great things from our leaders, I would hope you do a bit more research before saying something in which you don’t have all your facts straight.
Thank you for your consideration. : )
Yesterday, I heard someone say that “Women are submissive by nature.” I just about choked on my gum. Is that what our ‘problem’ is?
#597 Mary Gallegos
I am kinda glad cuz I don’t think they would know what to do if they had to do REAL work. Hey get MO out and start filling sandbags! I wonder if they make designer oeralls for that?
#607 freddiebrown
I have known this to be a war for a while. Of course they will try to continue their theft.
We must cover the polls in every state to stop them.
http://www.eac.gov/voter/poll%20workers
#609 Diva2
You weren’t so bad yourself – I’dve been freaked out talking to a delegate sitting in a sea of O supporters.
re#608 mzebest
bravo!! bravo!!
you are so right on!
mccain/palin this november!!
#613 Maryland
Blush… thank you!
#613 Maryland
Blush… thank you!
#343 Mo Independent
Welcome. As someone who shares’s the Puma mission and who believes in NO DRILLING in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge I will not shun you or disrespect you. I hope you will extend the same and not refer to Arctic Refuge supporters as people who belong with the Obamabot’s and the DNC.
I agree with you that this is not the place to debate this issue, it is more important to stay focused and on message with the PUMA mission.
To ClearlyClinton… You are a Hillary supporter voting for McCain. Sounds to me like you belong!!!
#614 pink puma
Thanks… I wanted to post what I wrote but feared it might offend some here. Glad to know you support what was said, which makes me feel better about it.
((((((((DancesWithPuma))))))))
Much Love and Hugs going to you Dances
Internet and Science moving at break neck speeds a cure. Science is at Sci-Fi level now. The things that they are doing are so amazing if I started to explain it you would think I was making it up.
Here you can really tell the difference between McCain and Obama……McCain acts on it Personally and talks with all the people involved and gets involved personally….While Obama might vist the area after it’s all over and he’s tapping his “Vast” network of Obama-bots to help out…LOL…LOL…can’t get his own hands dirty and get personally involve in any thing like a crisis……he sends his little soldiers to hand out water and contribute money, but he stays as far away from anything important or doing anything executively pro-active as he can….LOL…LOL
Obama can’t get emotionally involved about anything while McCain is emotionally investing him,self like a human-being.
This is just evidence of what kind of Leader Mccain is and Obama is NOT!
#479 Whose e-mail addys are those?
I have tried to engage in discussions on this site before, but so f