Yes — the DNC is most definitely in Panic Mode.
The Palin Choice is turning into a stunner for Howard and Obama.
Let’s not panic here. There isnt any need for it. We are thinking, articulate adults.
I dont care if you call yourself a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, a New Democrat, or a Polka-Dotted Peruvian Panda.
We are all PUMAS! That means 3 things:
1. We will NOT vote for Barack Obama for President
2. We will vote on Nov 4
3. We will work to reclaim OUR party — the DEMOCRATIC Party.
The danger for Democrats today — a disaster that the DONC is finally waking up to — is that our UNITY AS VOTERS will not only be fractured but actually be permanently lost.
Yesterday the Democratic Party was divided. Today it is in disarray.
The Puma Movement is NOT in disarray. We are united in our goals:
1. No Obama for President
2. No more Howard or the other Architects of this FIASCO at the DNC
3. Support Good Guy Dems
Today is a tumultuous day. Don’t be afraid of a little disorder. It is inevitable — the McCain Camp just pulled a brilliant tactical move and we need to regroup. But as we do so, we must remain united.
Welcome new members! Join US!
Dont shoot the new members before even saying Hello to them. Be wonderful to each other.
This is an interview that’s running tonight on New England Cable News
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posting from downstairs - reminder
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/roe-vs-wade-obamas-ace-in-the-hole/
yeeeeee hawwwwww !
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Murphy, marylandpuma, mamapuma, Thank you for keeping us PUMAS together. We will always be a PUMA. Everyone have a safe and great Holliday weekend.
I am thrilled with McCains move….I feel a bit tenuous about her abilities….. iam exciited that another woman is on the scene….I am looking forward to getting to know about her……I do not like some things she stands for ……time will tell me
You were great on Hardball, Murphy!
Yes, we are all Dems. Glad you got the down ticket message out. NOT voting for Ob is as important as NOT voting for McCain! The Reps want us to come slinking to their side with the clever pick of Palin, but we can see throught it.
OUT OF CRISIS COMES OPPORTUNITY
DNC is worse than disarray, they don’t know if they’re coming or going, they’re biting their elbows though, SERVES THEM RIGHT! They thought by shafting Hillary all of us will take it lying down. They were so wrong, FREAKING WRONG!
Don’t forget to vote GOOD DEMS back to office, CORRUPT ones send them back home !
Oh, I missed Hardball. Husband bought a new car today. Does anyone have a link?
Will be back later, am watching the U.S. Open.
Thank you for the laugh, whoever said it downstairs, about Campbell Brown of CNN likening Obama’s event last night to WOODSTOCK.
OH. MY. GOD.
Get these media babies off the air and gimme some real people for a change, people who understand history, at the very least.
THAT is also what puma can do — revolutionize the mainstream media. So much of what happened with this campaign is due to them.
America is waking up. And as Martha Stewart likes to say, “That’s a GOOD THING.”
(hee hee, sorry, just had to throw that in there. )
#3 TexasTigress:
You left your “E” downstairs.
#6 virginia.puma I never wanted McCain to pick a woman, as I’ve said before, that means if McCain wins he’ll probably be too old to run again and Palin will run against Hillary. I can’t go thru this agony again. What will we have, woman against woman? I hope if McCain gets in that he and Palin will do a lousy job and we can have our Hillary back in 2012
If you have not voted here yet (as posted earlier) please do so. http://news.aol.com/elections don’t forget there is one on the side too asking if BO did his job last nite at convention (on right hand side)
When non-Pumas ask you what is a Puma or what does it mean; Murphy phrased is succinctly and her answer should be posted daily, so we can read it daily!
We are all PUMAS! That means 3 things:
1. We will NOT vote for Barack Obama for President
2. We will vote on Nov 4
3. We will work to reclaim OUR party — the DEMOCRATIC Party.
Reposted from downstairs:
Anna7000:
Tucker Carlson used to have his own one hour show on MSNBC 6 pm ET but he was replaced by David Gregory’s Race to the White House a few months ago. He is now a political correspondent for MSNBC and comes on shows once in a while. He works for some online blog, is a libertarian and loves Ron Paul.
Chris Matthews is on MSNBC.
12 wontbackdown - Curses to you WOMAN !!!!!! DRAT !
Good Evening All…. thank you for all you did, all you do, and all you will do!!!… I can’t stay, but I wantttttttttt so very much to say… follow the lead of the founder of this blog…… and i will see you later… Love You all… each and everyone of you for your brilliant minds and dedication to the cause of HIllary and now the reform of OUR Democratic party!!
Murphy u did great tonite, I think you left all three of them with there mouths hanging open, I swear to god I think they expect anyone who opposes them to be brainless and what you said was very smart, intelligent and proved your a democrat (which we all knew) who loves her country and is scared for the dem party and it left there mouths open and dry.
Personally~ I don’t think my well thought out vote for McCain is slinking.
Hardball should be repeating - NOW
Thanks, Hillmania! Much appreciated!
ladyhawkke
I’d rather see a woman run against Hillary than another man. Two women running for prez, I’m salivating.
Murphy: I caught the last minute of the Matthews show and you looked and sounded great. I tivo’d it though and am going to watch the first part now.
Proud to be a PUMA.
Goodnight everyone.
Hardball on now EST, Dem strategist tried to paint her with corruption of Stevens and Mathews slammed him.
Ladyhawke ~ I agree. I don’t think she could hold up against Hillary. I want Obama out, I want Hill in in 2012. Period. And to do that I will be voting for McCain this time.
(((( BMW ))))))
This is a beautiful news about Palin’s parents.
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palins-parents-surprised-by-vp-nod/153454
Hardball repeating - Murphy on in a couple of minutes.
WBD - sleep well !!
REPOST FROM END OF PRIOR THREAD:
bmw60 - interesting caucus story. i’d like to know what the woman DID about what she witnessed? did she report it? is there any documentation or record of it? without that, such tales can’t be elevated to anything substantial, which is a bummer. let me know if you know if she reported what she presumably witnessed. thanks.
Per a few notes at the top of murphy’s thread 2 threads back (which feels like a lifetime ago, but was only earlier today, geez!):
“Entire state delegations were brow-beaten into voting Present or Passing their votes to other states.” Murphy, or anyone, can you elaborate more specifically to translate this emotional language into more fact-based evidence so I can incorporate it into what I’m working on?
Can someone please post the link of Murphy on Hardball for those of us who missed it. thanks!
Murphy thanks for making the point on hardball about the dems losing a 16 year run of the white house. I have not hear alot of people talk about that. Hope it got some people thinking!
#15 TerryDo hey long time no see how you have you been.
anna , did you ever find out who Tucker is ? I don’t want to give you info you may already have - I know you get a lot to sift through ….
US Open Rain Delay. Fox, Sarah Palin was out caribou hunting with her husband when she got call from McCain. That does it, she kills animals!!
#10 ladyhawkke on 08.29.08 at 7:39 pm
sorry this site interrupted your activities today. I had to work but I went off singing like I was in Singing in the Rain, and dancing like Gene Kelley with McCain’s pick.
Listen, the only way they will allow Hillary to run in 2012 is if there is a woman on the other ticket. I have no problem with Hillary running against Palin in 12. It is never a sure thing, let’s just keep BO out and let the chips fall where they may. This is not an easy vote for any of us, but change, real change is never easy.
msnbc - Murphy - now
Anne7
Tucker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson
#37 ladyhawkke on 08.29.08 at 7:51 pm
shouldn’t you keep your eyes on your new car?
cows and chickens are killed for us to eat, men and women go fishing
that was a quick decision
Why do stupid political pundits keep talking about Palin’s experience? Uh just b/c Nobama has been running for President for over 2 yrs doesn’t make him experienced. She has more than him in that she governs a state. Plus, she’s running for VP not President. I think the person running for Pres should have more experience that his/her VP but I guess that goes over Obots’ and MSM heads.
Thanks, all. I did get the info on Tucker and Matthews.
McCain and Palin will trample the Constitution, assault the middle class, and plunge the world into a second Cold War.
…and by not voting for NObama in November, PUMAs are helping get them elected to do it.
We are teach the DNC a lesson it will NEVER FORGET. They DESERVE THIS. We will show them. The country will suffer through the injustices of another GOP administration. DON’T BLAME US BLAME THE DNC.
43 Sisterluck chuckle
ANOTHER GREAT INTERVIEW, DARRAGH!!
Thanks for posting it at the top.
Ergot4Hill obama if I am not mistaken voted for fisa also. The one who didnt is out! So we may be in for some trampling either way.
#42 LOL Hillaryhead. It’s not my new car, it’s my husbands. I don’t eat cows and I do eat chicken. Fishing is o.k. but I love the caribou. And I don’t like aerial killing of wolves which goes on in AK and WY. I donate a lot to Defenders of Wildlife and I work with protecting feral cats in my city. I have rescued baby kittens, bathed them, taken them to the vet and then adopted them out. Besides, cars are material things and don’t mean much to me. If you’re happy with Palin, I’m happy for you.
Did anyone see Oprah’s reaction to The One’s speech? She said she cried her eyelashes off and would not shut up about how great his speech was. Barf.
Although I don’t agree with all of Palin’s positions, I respect the fact that being Pro Life, she gave birth to a down syndrome child, knowing the situation ahead of time. She also worked to end the corruption in the Alaskan government. I feel confident that she is trustworthy and strong in her ability to govern. It’s more than we’ve gotten from Obama or the democrats in charge of the DNC. The democrats can talk all they want about her lack of experience. That’s “the pot calling the kettle black.” Oops, sorry. (you have to be sooo careful how you phrase things these days!)
Just watched TiVo’d hardball.
Matthews even used his indoor voice a couple of times.
That was sweet of him.
Murphy did a great job. Kudos.
Off for the weekend. Won’t be able to read the posts for the first time since last Friday. it will be interesting to see what the consensus is when I get back.
Best of,
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Reposting from downstairs—I feel this urgency deep in my guts—
Agree, Kelligesq—We are up against a massive tsunami of BO voters being registered daily. We don’t have time to fine tune or cherry pick voting choices. This has to go down, and our action has to be PROFOUND.
Wore a orange melon color top today at work, driving my car with 18 million , around
JustSayNoDeal.com spelled out on back windshield
Hillary in 08 a puma picture pumas, on back of trunk
and NO OBAMA on bottom of bumper
two 16 year old kids were yelling at me, I stopped, got out of my car, walked up to them, said excuse me, he repeated “you’re for no obama?” “you’re for splitting the party” I replied that I did not harass him for driving around with whatever he wanted on his bumper. He persisted, then I let some cuss words fly and told him to get lost and shut his mouth. he drove off with his tail tucked behind him. at least he was courageous enough to talk to me (although he had his buddy with him)
I have had people yell or do a thumbs down, then rush off without saying anything. COWWWWARDS
Just saw Murphy on Hardball! Way to go Murph and thanks for reminding us of our mission. Sometimes it gets lost with so much emotion. No Obama, No Dean!
I don’t want to “punish” the DNC (whatever that really means since in trying to “punish” them, I may well punish myself, as well). I want to reform it. I don’t want to engage in relentlessly emotional discourse where unsubstantiated accusations fly and the fires are stoked, but often without substance. As far as I’m concerned, the DNC screwed up royally, I don’t agree with Republican values for the most part. For me, the situation is complex and worthy of careful thought, not a knee jerk reaction. I will not be voting for Obama. But, I see nothing on this blog I can latch onto. Perhaps things will settle down and some organization will unfold. Until then, I gotta check out for a while.
Is the radio show on?
For all the pumas who are worried about the wildlife and the environment, that is a fight that must forever be waged because big money wants them gone. It will be fought by outside groups because insiders (yes all of them) are owned by big money. I’ve been part of that fight for 30 years (20 with the Columbus Zoo) and I know from experience that govt won’t do it. Even when the make strides (the endangered species act), the next day they are amending and making exceptions to it. Keep funding the organizations that make it their mission to fight and make them stronger. Don’t expect govt to do it, it’s too frustrating.
Anna7000:
You are great. I keep trying to leave but I love reading your posts.
Check out. You deserve it.
#53 Lin4Hill on 08.29.08 at 8:05 pm
Reposting from downstairs—I feel this urgency deep in my guts—
Agree, Kelligesq—We are up against a massive tsunami of BO voters being registered daily.
There is no evidence to substantiate this claim. A third of the electorate already probably registered have not made up their minds. 1/3 of electoral votes are UNDECIDED. What you put forth is air not facts
anna , I respect your need to make very thoughtful , personal decisions . I believe we will be on track soon and we will be doing many more great things so don’t stray to far , we need you
Hello PUMA friends,
I’m taking a break from preparing for Gustav to drink a Corona. Cheers!! Need to calm my nerves.
Dang, looks like I missed some fireworks on here today. I don’t have time to read all but I do have a few thoughts.
First comment~
#25 StealingHistoryFromHillary said ~
“we need a firm stance against the republicans that have infiltrated this blog.”
I’m a Republican that is pro Hillary, anti-Obama and a supporter of McCain. I’m not here to try to get anyone to switch to the Republican side or to debate issues. I believe that Hillary wasn’t treated fairly by the democratic machine.
Not sure who said this earlier “I don’t see that happening: i.e. huge shift of people to Republicans.”
I totally agree with this and here’s why ….
IMO, in spite of how upset many PUMA Democrats are, in spite of what is said on this blog, in the end on election day Obama will be their choice. I say this not to upset anyone here, I say that because this is what the statistics through history have shown.
Most Democrats and Republicans will vote party line in the end … sure there are some that will kick and scream the whole way there but they end up doing it. I hope I’m wrong because I would love for you all to help McCain become POTUS. I just think that in the end most won’t be able to pull the lever.
#71 TX Democrat said ~
“I would like to hear other peoples response. How do you support reproductive rights AND vote for someone who says they want Roe v. Wade overturned. Anyone dare to answer that?”
This is a very good question. As a pro-life peep, I have a hard time voting for a pro-choice person but I’m not a single issue voter and I don’t think most people are. This will be a big deal for many Democrats and I understand that even if I don’t agree with the position. I was pro-choice for many years so I’ve been on both sides of the issue.
#102 zombiefortruth said ~
“I challenge that there should be a full investigation of every American that has a “Net Worth” of over 100 million dollars This investigation and audit should be conducted and comprised of citizens that are gathered in a “jury like” fashion and their own individual “Net worth/s” shall not exceed 1 million dollars or they are exempt from serving on the investigative commission.”
Um, this kind of rhetoric is scary. Can we say Communism??!!! It’s this kind of far leftist thinking that makes Republicans call liberals “moonbats”. Sorry, but true.
Anyway, I hope I’m still welcome here even though I’m an eviiillllle Republican.
#56 Anna7000 on 08.29.08 at 8:06 pm
Have a good time
Mick yes you are welcome
#910 Kelligesq on 08.29.08 at 7:56 pm We need a viable third party with candidates and there has never been an opportunity like this one to gather the 18 million or what’s left of them, and organize it.
Next, I went down to Supervisor of Elections today to turn in my precinct laptop. And guess what he told me? NEW REGISTRATIONS ARE COMING IN LIKE MAD.
OBAMA’S NEW REGISTRATIONS. since the local elections on Tuesday, and this is Friday, they have had 500 new registrations - and this is just one office in the county. And just one county in Battleground State Florida.
We have to get busy people. And get the word out about writing in, not writing in, or making it McCain.,
personally - in person handing out flyers why we are voting for McCain.
Another thing - if we are going to clean out the dem party we cant worry about having a dem congress. This dem congress we elected with Nancy, Hoyer, Clyburn and the rest of the coup group didnt do one thing we elected them to.
If you’re going to vote McCain , you’re going to have to lobby him to pay attention to your issues and lead his party that way.
If you are going to help the democratic party to implode, we cant hold back.
this isn’t payback for Hillary. It’s payback and cleanup for being CORRUPT.
So what’s our mission? For me, that’s the mission.
K.
Party Unity My ARSE
The question shouldn’t be where does life begin, but where does it end.
Obviously, a life has started it’s journey in becoming a human being at conception. An abortion stops the process before a complete human being is formed and is ready to be removed from the woman’s umbilical cord. That is where life ends. It can be by choice or miscarriage.
Life ends in many other ways as well after birth. Disease, accidents, war, old age or heinous acts by another human are some examples. The diference in the ending of life by pro choicers and their counterparts is that the abortion of a yet completed human is by choice while other forms of death can be attributed to fate or God’s will.
Best choice I know of that is perfectly acceptable to a civil society is… to think before you love. Be prepared finacially and emotionally before being faced with an ambiguous situation. Don’t let a moment of passion override your ability to reason. Then there can be no regrets and no difficult choices necessary.
Because the human species is not like an animal programmed to reproduce a woman can choose when the time is right to bring a life into this world.
There are exceptions to every rule, of course. But for the general issue of abortion I think it applies mainly to capable men and women with the ability to restrain themselves from natural desires.
Where does life end? That is the question. Surely it can’t end by choice. Not even suicide is considered an acceptable choice to the ending of life.
It seems we are all a little shell shocked. Some of us hoped the DNC would do the right thing and Hillary would be the nomine. Well things did not work out that way and now we have some serious choices to consider. The reality is too much for some I know. Voting for a Republican never really sank in. For the rest of us this is where the true fight begins. I understand those who cannot, but please, to the rest we need to stay focused. Keep our eyes on 2012.
#56 Anna7000
Please don’t check out for too long. I feel the same way you do, and look here for a glimpse of those who feel the same way.
#62 mick on 08.29.08 at 8:09 pm
“Not sure who said this earlier “I don’t see that happening: i.e. huge shift of people to Republicans.”
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I said that earlier, but I think you misinterpreted me. What I meant was that many WOULD shift to the Republican side to vote for McCain this election, but I found it unlikely they would suddenly become full-fledged Repubicans.
They’ll vote Republican this election. But they will probably keep most, if not all, of their Democratic views. This could change depending on how the Democratic Party behaves in the next several months/years and how the Republican Party evolves with McCain in charge. They may return to the Democratic Party later on if it reforms itself, or they may fully embrace the Republicans. It depends on what happens in the days/weeks/months/years ahead.
I am fortunately past the age of being able to get pregnant. The itsy bitsy possibility of ROEvWade being overturned does not affect me like it did when I could get pregant.
Its a young woman’s fight. If all the republican women, fathers and mothers of republican women, and all of the independents’ wives and daughters, of baby bearing age want abortion outlawed federally, not on a state to state basis, they will ensure it.
However, if R v W IS overturned, there will be a bigger revolution than 1776, to be sure.
Hanging reproductive rights, abortion rights, around women’s necks by misygonist (men for the most part) dems, “journalists”, pundits, syndicated columnists, etc., etc., is oxymoronic.
#67 maxgrader -
Please don’t start with the “pro-life” speech. Everyone is “pro-life” and no one wants to choose an abortion. It is a private matter, and the reality is that people can choose whatever is best for them. That is why it is called “pro choice”.
I wish the govt. would stay out of a matter that is private, between a female and her doctor. But it’s just their way of trying to control females…
‘nuf said.
#60 - “air–not facts” ?
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Goodbye
#51kp26 I agree with you. Obama has no solutions and whatever Palin has been doing in AK, it’s been going on with corrupt Ted Stevens. by the way, was he re-elected or not? Anyway, my whole plan is to stop BO and I’l probably have to hold my nose!
Besides, Obama is only 1 out of 99 senators who voted against the born alive act. Obama is for infanticide!! Worse than killing caribous, which by the way is fine if you’re eating them.
#70 BrooklynNY on 08.29.08 at 8:18 pm
Oh, well then I guess I don’t agree. LOL I really think that in spite of the anger, the fraud, the protest, the words of “No Way, No How, NObama,” I think that in the end many, (not all), will still vote Democratic. I mean no disrespect, I’m just saying what history has shown.
718 lorelai
It’s a done deal then - if the Jewish World Review is favorable to Palin, I know who my pals in the senior complexes will vote for.
They do vote in blocks, they talk (not much else to do) and they’re active.
Another thing for NObama to worry about.
Florida voted Hillary in the primaries, but, we all know what happened.
60 hillaryhead
There is no evidence to substantiate this claim. A third of the electorate already probably registered have not made up their minds. 1/3 of electoral votes are UNDECIDED. What you put forth is air not facts
please substantiate your facts. as a deputy registrar of voters in my state, a volunteer who assists in registering peeps,( and i declined to participate in the walks, etc because i knew where the outcome would lead) the Get Out The Vote (GOTV) is the obama mantra. do the research and then come back with a link.
and roe vs wade will not be overturned - before that court case there where states that had already enacted a woman’s right to her privacy. roe vs. wade has its’ roots in ALL of OUR rights to privacy regarding way more than abortion. check out wikipedia for the simplist explanation.
What’s with all this worry about Hillary running against Palin in 2012? Hillary is tough and can run against anyone. I think she would love running against a woman. It would be about issues, not about gender.
#67maxgrader I would never get an abortion but I support a woman’s right to choose. That is exactly Hillary’s position. Now as far as abortions are concerned and also contraceptives which Bush quit giving to third world countries because he is sooooo pro-life, what about those poor people that can’t afford to take of their children? Are you going to pay for their upbringing? Sometimes people have to make hard choices in order to keep on going. I don’t condemn anyone for doing what is right in their particular situation.
Hillaryhead…I had to laugh when you said roe v wade is a young woman’s issue. A friend of mine visiting from Roanoke is about 70 and I around 60 and we were walking on the Mall in DC sharing some Native Indian Dances at the folk life festival. Two very young women came up to us with papers in hand and asked if we would sign this petition to ensure roe v wade was no overturned. So intense. And then they looked at us and asked if we wanted them to explain what roe v wade was about…………………………………… They had NO
IDEA what women, what WE women back then, who were activists on the ground then….remember the 60s, went through to get Roe v Wade passed.
BrooklynNY
I’ve calmed down over the past hour but I am still very uneasy about the Palin pick. I think it shows poor judgement by McCain. It seems very much like a gimmick.
And it doesn’t seem fair that Palin should get so much fanfare. The same goes with Ferraro.
Hillary worked incredibly hard campaigning and debating and she earned 18 million votes. Palin was selected as a gimmick.
There is no comparison.
Ferraro just mentioned PUMAS on O’Reilly!!
#74 ladyhawkke on 08.29.08 at 8:23 pm
I love caribou meat especially caribou sausage. I prefer it than moose. I’ve cleaned quite a few of them when I was in Alaska. Winter time is hard in winter, people go hunting to have meat in the freezer during winter time and can salmon during summer.
Just heard the stupidest thing possible -big O cried her eyelashes off from bo’s speech - why - was the plagarism of Hillary’s speeches too much for her?
GOOD JOB MURPHY ON HARDBALL!! YOU SPOKE EXACTLY THE WAY I FEEL.
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!!
PUMA 08
I believe that when McCain and Palin win the White House, they will work hard to address the issues that make abortion a perceived necessity.
When we can eliminate or reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, it will be a win for people on both sides of the abortion issue.
Go vote on Bill O show
#75 mick on 08.29.08 at 8:25 pm
Hmmm…..I hope you’re wrong.
It’s so hard to predict what will happen this fall. I know I won’t change in my view. I’ll be against BO, for McCain/Palin, right to the bitter end.This cycle though it wouldn’t surprise if the anti-BO sentiment increases, rather than diminishes by Nov. There are so many unique things going on this year, it’s just impossible (to me anyway) to use the past to predict the future this time around.
I would love to see Hillary against Palin in 2012, Hillary will get my vote!
Right now my focus is to defeat NObama.
Right now I am more concerned about 2008 than I am 2012.
#81 4Hillary
Palin was not a gimmick pick. McCain fires up his base along with respecting women and their accomplishments. It was a bold, maverick move. Nobama made the lame safe move with his pick and highlighted his no experience in doing it. I suggest people do their research on Palin before bashing her as just another appeal to women voters. Maybe wait until she debates Biden to decide what you think. I hated people that didn’t give Hillary a chance and cast her off as just another feminist. If they would’ve gotten to know her and listened to her solutions then they would’ve seen her worth instead of her gender only. Give Palin a chance. Besides she’s the VP nom, not the President. Maybe her resume is thin but Nobama’s is even thinner and he’s running for President.
ladyhawkke, LOL people have been hunting since the beginning of time. As long as they hunt for food…there isn’t a darn thing wrong with it. I live in a state that is about hunting. People hunt to eat it…not just kill it for fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed Murphy on Hardball…Please post a link. I don’t seem to be able to find it yet.
For 35 years Roe V. Wade was not overturned due to the fact it INFRINGED OUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY guaranteed under our constitution (Bill of Rights). For 40 years, the Democrats ONLY occupy the whitehouse 12 years (Carter and Clinton). The Democratic Party is using scare tactic when it comes to Roe V. Wade which I find laughable because if people are smart, they’d know the US Supreme Court already gave their ruling on that, it is left for the state to decide, even John McCain knows that and the same with Sarah Palin.
ladyhawkke she lives in Alaska there’s not much more to do there lol. just kidding..Most of the media got over there shock from this morning and got a nice tall glass of Kool-aid again because I’ve noticed as the evening has gone on most (not all) are getting down right nasty about this woman.
Today was the second time McCain has ever met with her in person. That sounds gimmicky to me.
#80 virginia.puma
I hope you told them - to pass your legacy on.
Casey Anthony re-arrested!!! Led from house in handcuffs!
ya know, listening to all of these talkingheads (which by the way - where the hell do they find them - ugh) seems like the old telephone game - remember that? You say something to one person, they pass it on and at the end of the circle or line - it bears no comparison to what was started - that’s all I keep hearing -gotta turn it off - tired of hollering to the idiots that they got it wrong……………………………..
Geraldine is proud that another barrier has been broken. She said she was a token also and that was in 1984. I think she’ll be putting more on her site concerning this.
It seems like many here are treating Palin (in less than 12 hours) that same way Hillary was treated, although Hillary took so many hits and kept standing. Let’s not do this to another woman. Hillary stood up as a proud, proud woman and none of us know what also went on in the background.
I don’t care how everyone votes (except not for Hussein - my opinion)
Palin is not running for President - McCain is. This election is keeping Hussein out!!!
By the way Murphy - you’ve been vetted, so when you get ready to run for an office, just holler!!
#82 4Hillary My son just called me and told me to calm down, that we need to focus on getting XO defeated. He said not to worry about the VP pick, we are voting McCain and hope women will vote for that ticket. Even if I find out more stuff about her, what does that mean? I can’t stand Obama and I have to vote for the lesser of the two evils.
And I agree, Hillary worked so hard for this and Palin is getting the glory.
#32 Anna7000
Knoxville sent out a copy of a news article in the Knoxville paper (Knoxville Press? )about the fight in their delegation meeting prior to voting. This was published either Wednesday day or early Thursday morning. It was a verbal fight but full of coercion. I can’t find the post as it seems late night thread for that night was misplaced. It was heartbreaking. By the way, no one knows if there was a chain of custody with the votes.
slyt2 on 08.29.08 at 7:49 pm #15 TerryDo hey long time no see how you have you been.
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I am well thank you slyt2, I was away on a 10 day seminar and did not have much time to blog. I hope you are also well.
Congratulations to Murphy and PUMAPAC’s new baby!
We have to wish the New Democratic Party a happy birthday, pumapac is just so fecundate with multiple births. That is a great sign of creativity and growth for Pumas!
#246Firebelle (previous thread)
and all others who are interested in knowing WHAT THE FRENCH MEDIA SAYS OF SARAH PALIN :
I’ve just created a special section on my blog entitled “Sarah palin VP” : you can read some press articles in French if you read French “Ce qu’en dit la presse” ; but there is of course an English summary at “What the press says about her”.
http://hillary.meilleur.choix.qu-obama.over-blog.com/
Personally, although I am very happy to see a woman on the ticket again for the second time in History only, I must confess I am not particularly enthusiastic about Sarah Palin. I am an animal lover, and if I read her biography well, I learn she is a hunter, and that she has done nothing to protect polar bears, on the contrary !
#100 1gypsy4mc, AMEN!!!
I think BO’s stadium speach last night was a gimmick
I personally think bashing Palin because she is a woman is pretty sexist myself. Casting her as a gimmick fits that definition. When none of us have had a chance to get to know her and what she is about it is pretty quick judgement based on what? Party ideals? Gender? Fear? Sounds awful familiar.
This blog has been trying all day with the bashing, condensation and what appears to me, purposeful narrowmindedness. I for one will rest with other more productive endeavors.
Stoney42
It was HOLLYWOOD CONVENTION.
#107 virginia.puma
AMEN!!
#81 4Hillary said ~
“Palin was selected as a gimmick.”
I respectfully disagree. That thought is purely speculation and not based on fact. This may have come as a surprise to Democrats and the MSM, but Palin has been talked about in Republican circles as a possible pick long before Obama overlooked Hillary and picked Biden.
I have a conservative site with a group of 10 female friends and we have been talking about her for a while. Palin may not be a perfect pick but no candidate is. I do agree with you that Palin should not be compared to Hillary. That would be ridiculous to do so. IMO, both woman should be celebrated for their individual accomplishments.
She eats alot of moose and caribou. Lucky lady. I’ve never had either but I’ve had a lot of deer and one elk. ia it true she shot a Polar Bear?
I have some bad news for anyone who eats meat. If you do, you just pay someone else to do your killing for you. You are just as guilty as the one who pulled the trigger. What you eat was once running around alive. But it is a gift from the Creator. Be thankful!
#72 Pumetta
Exactly! I am pro-life and pro-choice. I think it is always interesting when a man believes he tries to say pro-choice is wrong. Until a man walks in a bioligically correct body, then they can have a say. Nothing personal Maxgrader. : )
4HILL~
And it doesn’t seem fair that Palin should get so much fanfare. The same goes with Ferraro.
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AND WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH FERRARO??? NOW YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH HER TOO? AND YOU ASKED DNSTRS FOR A NAME~ I GAVE YOU MINE~ STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER!!!
#104 delphinefromfrance
Thank you.
I can understand your concerns about Sarah Palin and animal rights. But anyone who eats meat, foul, or fish shouldn’t be too upset that Sarah Palin is a hunter. After all, if someone wasn’t hunting and fishing for us, we’d all either be doing it for ourselves or eating vegetarian.
I don’t know enough about Sarah Palin to say what she has or hasn’t done to protect polar bears. But I know enough about Obama to know that he doesn’t protect democracy or Americans. To me, that outweighs any of Sarah Palin’s shortcomings.
SouthJersey!
What did Cauto have to say to you???
#104 delphinefromfrance on 08.29.08 at 8:41 pm
Whoever said it in your newspaper is WRONG about Polar bear. They’re well protected in Alaska, they’re ENDANGERED SPECIE. If a person gets attack by a polar bear, it is the person’s fault, not the bear. The only time they’ll kill polar bear if its confirmed maneater the same goes with Grizzlies.
You know what really ticks me off???? O’reilly and loudmouth Laura Ingraham saying are feminists gonna speak out again MSNBC and what they are saying about Palin - where the hell were they when Hillary was being savaged - twofaced sobs - and of course I’ll speak out about the crap they spout and its only because she’s a woman and doesn’t deserve to be treated they way Hillary was treated……………………..
“I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you’re having a good idea but it’s just eggs hatching.”
#101 ladyhawkke your son sounds very wise you raised him well, I agree with him wholeheartedly “I can’t stand Obama and I have to vote for the lesser of the two evils”. Love that line and behind it 100%
#103 TerryDo Oh that’s right I forgot all about that until you said it again . Doing as well as I can since what happened the other nite with Hillary and then my redskins lost again last nite.lol but yea everyone I love is healthy and so I can’t complain
#118 Susie1945, that was exactly what I thought when I heard Bill say that!! Where were they…they are right, but the same was done to Hillary!!
anne7000
will have to meet you -
but for right now - thank you husband - dinner/wine on the table - night all
HE KEEP ASKING “SO HOW MANY PUMAS ARE THERE? WELL WHAT ABOUT 18 MILLION”?~ I TOLD HIM ALTHOUGH I SIGNED THE 18 MILLION PLATFORM, I WASNT INVOLVED WITH THEM SO I DONT KNOW~ BUT PUMA’s ARE WEST TO EAST, AND NORTH TO SOUTH~ AND THERE ARE SILENT PUMAs AS WELL AS THOSE WHO DONT EVEN KNOW THEY ARE PUMAS~ SO EXPECT A WAVE FOR MC CAIN~
YA KNOW~ WHY ARE THEY MAKING A DEAL HOW NEW PALIN IS, WHEN 61 HASNT DONE CRAP’OLA!!!! WTF?
# 13 ladyhawkke,
First of all, Sarah Palin might not want to go as far as running for president in 4 years, like Dick Cheney decided not to run for president right now. But even if the 2012 race was between Palin and Hillary, what’s wrong with two women competing for the presidency? I find that really exciting and it would be a big difference from the male dominated races that we have had traditionally.
I am a big Hillary supporter, and of course I would want Hillary to win in 2012, but I think that if it were between two women, it would be a very interesting race and a historic breakthrough for women.
#81 4Hillary
Ok. 4Hillary. I appreciate you addressing the issue in a calmer manner. It did get a little heated. But I think I understand what was going on in your thought processes better by your explanation. Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
I don’t see the Palin pick as a gimmick. Given the choices he had, all boring or oldtimers, Palin is a breath of fresh air. She helps his ticket in so many ways all at the same time. I do think it was a brilliant strategic choice. Plus I find her very likeable in so many ways (not all ways, but many more than I could have said had his pick been one of the other VP frontrunners).
Now onto Hillary. It makes me very sad that Hillary has been relegated to the sidelines after the glorious campaign she fought. It is simply terrible. The Democrats are to blame, completely to blame, for that.
In light of what McCain did today by picking a woman as his VP, while the Democrats did everything they possibly could to marginalize and humiliate Hillary, Hillary’s treatment is all the more painful to us all and to Hillary.
It highlights just how slimy and creepy and sleasy the DP is when the Republicans - who Dems have always demonized (I include myself in this category, but now use the past tense about it) - were the ones that treated Hillary with respect, courtesy and appreciation makes the Dems actions all the more outrageous.
McCain gave her what her own party robbed her off to the best of his ability. He couldn’t give her the VP spot, but he respected her and all women by doing what he did and making sure she, Geraldine and women in general were acknowleged in the process.
Now Hillary is free to take it to the next level. I think 4 years of McCain/Palin can give Hillary/Bill, and people who share their feelings about the Dem Party and the direction it needs to go in, the time and space to work behind the scenes, or in front of them, and make the changes that need to be made in the Dem Party.
I think even if Hillary had won the fight, it would have been so hard to get anything done. She’d be fighting all those evil forces within the party. There’s a lot of very difficult, hard work facing any president right now. It isn’t a fun time to be president. I think maybe JM is just the kind of person for that job at this point in time. Hillary just might be the perfect person to take over from where JM will leave off. So, maybe in the end, good will come out of all this heartache and horror all the way around.
(Sorry for such a long post…..)
#94 Asian4Hillary on 08.29.08 at 8:38 pm
I hear you suggesting this is a ’scare tactic’ yet I find that it is food for thought given that it is on his website:
The ultimate goal as stated on McC’s website (Human Dignity & Life) :
“…the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion…government must find new ways to empower and strengthen these armies of compassion…These important groups (pro life) can help build the consensus necessary to end abortion at the state level.”
This is too drastic a statement on his website to make me blindly vote for him because he chose a female veep. At this point, I feel that this is the rep’s version of “change”.
She’s not Hillary. And I’m definitely not voting for 0. Hence, my quandry. Thank goodness there are 2 months to sort it out.
#53 Lin4Hill on 08.29.08 at 8:05 pm
Reposting from downstairs—I feel this urgency deep in my guts—
Agree, Kelligesq—We are up against a massive tsunami of BO voters being registered daily.
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#60 hillaryhead on 08.29.08 at 8:09 pm says:
There is no evidence to substantiate this claim. A third of the electorate already probably registered have not made up their minds. 1/3 of electoral votes are UNDECIDED. What you put forth is air not facts
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HILLARYHEAD
HAD YOU BOTHERED TO READ , I AM THE EVIDENCE. I WAS AT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE TALKING TO THE REGISTRAR. THAT US WHAT HE TOLD ME.
IS THAT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE FOR YOU?
ARE YOU HERE TO HELP THE MISSION, OR TO HINDER?
As far as Palin, I will get to know her. Listen to what she has to say. Find out about her demeanor and smarts. McCain is a very smart guy. Republican, but smart. I was thinking today that by selecting Palin, he actually held his hand out to all those voters who Obama turned his back on. She is young and will be around to lead for long time in whatever capacity comes her way. I am giving her a chance.
#119 TexasTigress, What?! LMAO
I like Palin because she make is far more likely Obama will loose.
I want the DNC to “smart” so badly from a loss in this election so that the next ruthless con artist who comes down the road will pass on the democratic party.
I heard Obama released an attack ad on Palin already. Has anyone seen this ad?
I am getting so p*ssed off right now I am so sick of hearing how inexperienced she is , NOBODY gave McCain a death sentence the man could live another 10 to 15 years or longer. Why can’t these gosh darn (trying hard not to curse) reporters be worried about BO like they are worried about Palin not having any experience. She is VP choice , BO wants to be President and he HAS NO EXPERIENCE but they don’t bring that up god for bid!!!!!!
stoney42 - well said. The stadium was a gimmick.
As for Palin - I have been waiting for both candidates to court me. One threw away my vote the other day - on teevee, the other is trying to get my vote. And I should turn all pissy about it why?
Not saying I am sold - still not sure I am voting McCain. But I am certainly more favorably disposed, and in a much better mood today than I was the past 2 days, I can tell you that. And why some people want to mess this moment - I’d rather not go there.
ladyhawkke
Wouldn’t it be great if Hillary ran against Palin in 2012?
Then you could be sure that the next POTUS would be a woman.
Btw., I’m not an American but a left-leaning European. Obama scares the hell out of me. If he is elected, it will affect politics in the whole world, and life will be become much harder for Europeans who don’t like Anti-Americanism or hatred against Israel. I’m afraid not only for Israel and America’s allies in Iraq and elsewhere, but I also think the political climate in Europe and everywhere will change and become MUCH worse. This is why I hope McCain wins the election, and this is also why I’m following the debate pretty closely.
Imagine if there’s no hunting in Alaska, those wild animals will starve to death. In fact we have season for hunting in Alaska, that also help people put food on their table, feed their family especially during winter time. One time we had a bad winter in Alaska, Moose can’t dig for grass, people bought hay to feed the moose. I thought moose would eat carrots I bought 100lbs of carrots, the game warden had a good laugh, he told me to can my carrots or make carrot cake out of me. People in Alaska MUST hunt before winter come or they’ll starve to death. You have to buy a license to hunt moose or caribou and you can’t just shoot first moose you see, there are guidelines to follow, if you break the law, you’ll end up in jail, the state will confiscate your truck and your gun and sometimes even your house. My dentist license was revoked (can’t practice dentistry anymore in the State of Alaska) by the state for hunting a moose out of season, they’ve confiscated everything he owns. The punishment is severe in Alaska. If you hit a moose while driving you better call the Game and Wildlife immediately or you’d be in trouble with the state.
Is there a radio show on tonight?
Glad to see the West Coasters are mainly on the blog now and hope the mellow PUMAs puuuuuuuuuur more and swipe less.
As much drama as we have seen on the blog today, it is much better than I expected after the faux convention ended. I thought it would be so ugly I would have to stay away for days, but I see lots of new PUMAs that are struggling to learn the acceptable way to argue their views without attacking other PUMAs.
Next time we get frustrated, sit back and think that in November, our vote will finally count. Other than voting fraud or hanging chads, we may eventually have our voices heard. The Democrats did not listen to us until it was too late for Hillary, but d@mn straight…they are listening to us now, thanks to all the brave PUMAs that did not cower, shut up, nor fall in line.
When I hold my nose and vote for John McCain in November, I will not vote by mail but will go into the voting booth and as I put my mark by John McCain, I will say loudly with respect, “Hillary, this vote is for you!”
#125 BrooklynNY
You write with great wisdom. I wager that McCain will give Hillary a good spot in his administration, where perhaps she can do almost as much good for the country as she would have as President. That will help position her for the future too.
#127 Kelligesq on 08.29.08 at 8:54 pm
what supervisor, where, what city or county, what state??
I aint biting
Palin is no Hillary. Gimmick or not she has accomplished more than most women…and I think she’s worth looking at. I already decided that I was voting for McCain as a protest vote before today..I think Hillary’s chances have gotten better for 2012. McCain probably won’t run again and Hillary has more experience and backing than Palin ever will get in 4 years. Think positive folks..this is good for Hillary come 2012!
Not Every Woman Supports Women’s Rights
August 29, 2008
Statement of NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy on the Selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s Vice Presidential Pick
Sen. John McCain’s choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate is a cynical effort to appeal to disappointed Hillary Clinton voters and get them to vote, ultimately, against their own self-interest.
Gov. Palin may be the second woman vice-presidential candidate on a major party ticket, but she is not the right woman. Sadly, she is a woman who opposes women’s rights, just like John McCain.
The fact that Palin is a mother of five who has a 4-month-old baby, a woman who is juggling work and family responsibilities, will speak to many women. But will Palin speak FOR women? Based on her record and her stated positions, the answer is clearly No.
In a gubernatorial debate, Palin stated emphatically that her opposition to abortion was so great, so total, that even if her teenage daughter was impregnated by a rapist, she would “choose life” — meaning apparently that she would not permit her daughter to have an abortion.
Palin also had to withdraw her appointment of a top public safety commissioner who had been reprimanded for sexual harassment, although Palin had been warned about his background through letters by the sexual harassment complainant.
What McCain does not understand is that women supported Hillary Clinton not just because she was a woman, but because she was a champion on their issues. They will surely not find Sarah Palin to be an advocate for women.
Sen. Joe Biden is the VP candidate who appeals to women, with his authorship and championing of landmark domestic violence legislation, support for pay equity, and advocacy for women around the world.
Finally, as the chair of NOW’s Political Action Committee, I am frequently asked whether NOW supports women candidates just because they are women. This gives me an opportunity to once again answer that question with an emphatic ‘No.’ We recognize the importance of having women’s rights supporters at every level but, like Sarah Palin, not every woman supports women’s rights.
136 Lorelai on 08.29.08 at 8:58 pm
Is there a radio show on tonight?
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Yes - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont
I cancelled my NOW membership a long time ago.
#431 on last thread - Freddie well said - completely agree
I have an action item that will keep people busy - since we are from so many different States and since our new goal is to re-elect the good guys Democrats - can we have a roll call by State - who is up for relection this November in your State and if they are good guys or bad guys (ones that turned on Hillary) we certainly can help campaign for the good guys by prowls - donations - etc - and the bad ones - we can do the same for their opponents - anyone else other than me that is willing to do this - I will keep the listing going -
Alabama —–
Alaska —-
Arizona —–
130 alohapuma on 08.29.08 at 8:55 pm
right on girl
Murphy, you were unstoppable on Hardball!
I just got a link from a friend. It has Sarah Palin saying that HILLARY DIDN’T WORK HARD ENOUGH. Palin also said that Hillary WHINES.
I’m ready to scream. Its all over the internet.
111 mick - thank you - she was considered a long time ago, but the media didn’t recognize her.
Also, what would you like Alaskans to eat? Do you know that cattle and horses are brought into the state? That the severe weather takes its toll? That the majority of what you can run into the store and get here is not so readily available. When I lived there, frozen beef was brought into the state.
Hunting is more regulated in Alaska than here!!
PLEASE!!!
WHEN POSTING ARTICLES PLEASE PUT THE LINK AND NOT THE WHOLE ARTICLE HERE~ IT STARTS TO MAKE THE ERRORS MORE CONSISTANT..
I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children’s children, because I don’t think children should be having sex.
#126 pumetta
Some of how McCain words his position on abortion on his website I think is done to satisfy the conservative wing of the Rep. party. But he is very big into removing the need for abortion by preventing pregnancies before they occur, providing help for women who chose abortion because they have no way to take care of their child, and offering help with adoption options.
He’s expressed the hope that one day maybe there won’t be a need for abortion, but until that time, he seems to have made it clear he doesn’t think Roe v Wade is going anywhere.
#128 CTKey,
I have already found out that Ms. Palin has been called in the past “Sarah Baracuda”.
That should give you some idea as to her style in governing.
She’s already sounding good to me.
Open Prowl Alert for any interested Clinton PUMA!
Hey guys:
I would ask that a couple of people (especially if you are from Tennessee) go to this website and post.
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/dnc2008/2008/08/end-of-an-era.html
This is a blog from a superdelegate who donated his office to serve as the headquarters for Hillary’s campaign. Now, I’ll be honest, he made me really angry because he literally drank the kool-aid (in the form of a unity champagne glass raising with the governor) on the front of News Sentinel the day before the final primary. But, there is some asshole who posted named AJ who is characterizing all Clinton “followers” as bitter. Personally I find it another desperate attack on Clinton Democrats because they are shocked that we would not jump on the unity train to hope and the future.
I’ve posted two entries under DiscountedbyHDean. So, just choose a login name and enter an email and write away, especially to AJ but feel free to direct it to anyone including Bill Owen about how you feel about what happend to Hillary, Bill, and Clinton Democrats in this selection!
Thanks. Come back here and report after this small prowl!
Anna7000…completely understand where you are coming from. If you would like to get in touch with me, you have my email per Maryland Puma earlier this week.
Sorry this has been so hard on all of us but my fear is that we are coming off as angry and bitter and that will not help us achieve our goals. We all have to get a grip or all of our efforts will be for naught.
I know we are angry, and it is hard to mask, but people will not take us seriously if we continue to vent publicly and not consider reasonable discourse on emotional subjects. I know that is a hard task to even contemplate, but no one will listen to our goals and objectives if their impression is that we are stubborn, angry and closed minded which, I’m afraid, I am hearing from several people.
Okay, I’m rambling now, but just just had to say it.
#96 4Hillary said ~
“And it doesn’t seem fair that Palin should get so much fanfare. The same goes with Ferraro.”
Of course she deserves fanfare!!! … geesh, she just made major history for all women in this country and so did Ferraro. Regardless of what side of the aisle one is on, we should all be excited about this. Your statement reeks of sour grapes … and I find it sad.
I’m 45 yrs. old and I remember when Ferraro was the veep pick on dem. ticket. As a young girl from a Republican household, I was sooo excited and thought that it was awesome!!
Just saying.
Since Hillary is out in 08, I am voting McCain b/c:
#1) Corrupt DNC and Nobama thugs and Media treated Hillary like dirt.
#2) I am not a one issue voter nor do I think McCain will overturn Roe v Wade. I vote for capitalism, democracy, and national security. Nobama is a socialist borderlining communist, terrorist appeaser, racist church goer, and has ZERO experience to be President.
#3) McCain is not a staunch Republican. He’s a moderate and a maverick. He’s been asked by John Kerry to be VP of all people. Biden said himself that he would be happy to run against or WITH John McCain.
4) Nobama is arrogant and all about himself and his wife’s agendas for this country. McCain is an American Patriot and would die for this country and has proven it.
5) If America’s national security gets in jeopardy more than it already is, there won’t be an economy to fix.
Hillary would have been a great CIC but the DNC leadership threw that away before we even voted. Nobama not ever.
Thanks Billie Jo!!!
Another thougth about Palin.
Although she is a product of her culture and has limited exposue outside of Alaska, she still appears to hold her own on the national stage. With some exposure and grooming (not alterations of character) she has the potential to be a powerhouse.
I am not a Republican, but I have so say she impresses me as a “salt of the earth” type of woman who really gets women’s issues. You don’t raise five children and then turn your back on the issues of concern to women.
I like her a lot so far.
Like jewels in a crown, the precious stones glittered in the queen’s round metal hat.
Open Prowl Alert for any interested Clinton PUMA!
Hey guys:
I would ask that a couple of people (especially if you are from Tennessee) go to this website and post.
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/dnc2008/2008/08/end-of-an-era.html
This is a blog from a superdelegate who donated his office to serve as the headquarters for Hillary’s campaign. Now, I’ll be honest, he made me really angry because he literally drank the kool-aid (in the form of a unity champagne glass raising with the governor) on the front of News Sentinel the day before the final primary. But, there is some asshole who posted named AJ who is characterizing all Clinton “followers” as bitter. Personally I find it another desperate attack on Clinton Democrats because they are shocked that we would not jump on the unity train to hope and the future.
I’ve posted two entries under DiscountedbyHDean. So, just choose a login name and enter an email and write away, especially to AJ but feel free to direct it to anyone including Bill Owen about how you feel about what happend to Hillary, Bill, and Clinton Democrats in this selection!
Thanks. Come back here and report after this small prowl!
Maybe nobody else cares what Mrs. Palin said about Hill, but I think its aweful. Calling her a whiner stinks.
I’m considering voting Bob Barr.
My response to Hillary’s email “Standing on that Stage”:
Dear Senator Clinton,
God bless you Senator Clinton. You have more of a stomach for these things than I have. Watching you on that stage made me want to throw up.
It’s very clear to me that you are sacrifing the future of this country in support of your party and future political career. I am saddened. I expected more from you.
I will NEVER vote for Obama. He is WRONG for this country. I sorely wish that you had stood on that stage and declared this. 18 million would have stood with you.
Oh well, I guess it’s just another fairy tale. It seems that there are more “cracks in the ceiling” over on the Republican side..
I will be voting for John McCain.
Sincerely,
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Austin, TX
PUMA PAC Member
#115 Firebelle Puma :
The truth is that I am… vegetarian !
#117 Asian Hillary
In fact I love polar bears : the problem is (I maybe wrong but I think that) Sarah palin does not approve of polar bears as an endangered species…
#147 brother2040…can you give us the link?
hillaryhead,
That’s right
Watching a video pf Palins speech. She is young. No “uhs” . For being on the national stage for the first time, she did a good job. She was positive. Praised Hillary and Geraldine. Talked about the 18 million cracks…I have a good feeling about her. Oh…we are in for a ride folks. Senator Obama…ya really blew it.
Murphy,
I have a request. Would you put the constitution in a prominent place on the blog? That is what this fight is truly about now and whenever we are down, aggravated, or at a loss I think it would serve to restore our focus.
Thanks.
#163 brother2040
Do you have a link to that info, or is it just a rumor?
163 brother2040 - yeah and I bet it came from a “bot”
I look through my email
But just google it: palin whiner
#163 brother2040 WHAT, I have been watching news a day long and haven’t heard this where did you get this from please.
158 sisterluck
me too, what you said.
Open Prowl Alert for any interested Clinton PUMA!
Hey guys:
I would ask that a couple of people go to this website and post.
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/dnc2008/2008/08/end-of-an-era.html
Lets give our daughters/granddaughters/nieces a chance the Democratic party used sexism to diminish her and let all behaivor by BigMedia go unchecked. Take a look at the youth and then I implore you to not vote for obama
What a joke - this was started on someone’s personal blog!! Go look!! Today’s date!!!!!!!!!!!
#151 BrooklynNY -
Sorry, but I don’t buy it. The words on his website are chosen very carefully and deliberately. And history has shown us that the “just say no” government plans are far from 100% effective.
im totally loving this on CNN. I’m sorry it has to be carville, because I believe Obama’s people should be the ones to have to get out there and raise questions to repubs.
Here is what Palin said re: Hillary. She did not call Hillary a whiner…She said she can be perceived as a whiner when…….. well listen to the video.
http://blueweeds.typepad.com/blue_weeds/2008/08/palin-calls-hil.html
brother2040,
Nobody’s perfect. Not Hillary nor Sarah. Not anybody.
Just as I was willing to give Ms. Clinton a chance at making history, so shall I afford Ms. Palin the same consideration. Like with Hillary it will take time and information before I give Sarah Palin my full support. So far she’s looking good (to me).
I will close with this thought - if we saw it coming, why didn’t the DNC?
G’night -
Hey all.
Plans to go out of town this evening have been delayed until tomorrow morning. So, I dropped in to view the chaos.
I’ve been reading the arguments for pro-life vs pro-choice. I am pro-choice … but for young women with unwanted pregnancies, abortion options are not being used.
Abortions are down and dead infants (microwaved, beaten, buried, etc.) are up. Hell, young mothers (and fathers) won’t even drop the infants off at a nearby hospital. I like Palin’s extensive action of birth control and counseling for an unwanted pregnancy.
And, I’ve never agreed with late term abortions (obama and the dems who selected him).
JMO, since everyone else is throwing theirs around.
I know the Dems will try to spin the Palin choice as a negative, but if it matters to anyone the word on the street (i.e. my Democratic female friends) think Palin was a brilliant choice and that Obama/Biden are done. We are a little sad that the Reps get to have this first also (first female VP). The Dems could have been the ones, but they blew it again. Mixed feelings abound. We are happy for the Palin choice, but ashamed for the Democratic Party. It’s even more shameful that they panicked and didn’t wait at least one day before they began to attack her. HC issued a statement praising McCain’s choice and then backed off. That’s the way you do it.
Nigh all,
Lara08
http://alaska.fws.gov/fisheries/mmm/polarbear/issues.htm
Not endangered, threatened, although I think they should be listed as endangered.
#147 brother2040 ~
She said this “coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine” is much different from saying that “Hillary whines”. Please stop getting your talking points from Huffpo or Daily Kos!
I’m not sure what the question was before her comments but here ya go ~ I’ll let y’all be the judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEUG0XZ9OpY
#186 sunnypa I am totally against late term abortions except when the mother’s life is in danger. I think a late term abortion is murder. They have to cut the baby out and I don’t go along with that at all. If you get pregnant and want an abortion, I say do it immediately and not wait. Like I said, I am pro-life and pro-choice.
Sarah Pallin the scroll says on Fox, gave energy rebates to those who upgraded..
Sounds like a person who might get this country going towards solar.
Too bad she’s so so conservative..
But she did raise taxes on the oil companies.
That’s 2 points for her and 2 points against her.
msnbc digging up the trooper firing on her with another trooper she fired who refused to fire her brother in law. tough cookie. good for her.
This will be my last post here - after two days of this - I have moved on - good luck to everyone with all their ideas and thought processes - too bad those did not get the only person that we all love and need elected to the rightful office of Presidency - maybe if you continue for the next three years everyone will have the solution for the next Presidency - sorry if I sound rude and no need to respond - asking Mama to ban me from the site now..
Post from a few nights ago about the coercion of Tennesse Hillary delegates.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/aug/28/tenn-dems-bicker-hope-come-together/
Does anyone have a link to Murphy’s interview with Chris Matthews?
189 mick
#182 virginia.puma too funny I was just gonna post the exact same thing and say the exact same thing. It’s not the nicest but it’s not horrible and everyone has got to remember she is a repub so of course she can’t be praising of Hillary all the time.
Goodnight pumetta. (I just know you are still there waiting to see who waves and wishes).
Last Jack Handy quote , then I’m off to bed - Sleep well Pumas
Today I accidentally stepped on a snail on the sidewalk in front of our house. And I thought, I too am like that snail. I build a defensive wall around myself, a “shell” if you will. But my shell isn’t made out of a hard, protective substance. Mine is made out of tinfoil and paper bags.
Open prowl to a superdelegate.
Okay, anyone, you have the opportunity to go post on the blog of a superdelegate. Please take the time to do so. He will read the responses and he needs to hear from Clinton supporters. He is a member of the DNC and he sat in on the rules committee meeting to review the primary process. They will be having a meeting in Jan.
Please go give some kind of a response here.
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/dnc2008/2008/08/end-of-an-era.html#comments
Thanks,
Dem4Hillary
Hey All,
blog-talk-radio on now —
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont
Best wishes, Rodham In Flag. Appreciated your input.
My thoughts on Hillary….it seems like now is the time to get it off my chest…she (meaning her mental capacity) couldn’t go outside the box.
I’m totally pro-Hillary. Evenso, grassroots organizations and followers gave her ample time to make a move. She didn’t. Historically speaking, given the type of grueling, emotion-driven campaigning … there will be no 2012 for either Hillary or obama (if he loses).
Goodnite Pumetta and Rodham in Flag. I think I’m going in hiding also!! Too much, too fast, too many thoughts!
you have to fix this software. I write up good ideas and then when I submit it crashes. It is so frustrating. Also what I typed disappears. if it remained I could capture it and try again.
I just had to share this sooo funny
Barack Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane He Turned to her and said, ‘Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go Quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.’
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to the Obama,
‘What would you like to talk about?’
‘Oh, I don’t know,’ said the Obama. ‘How about What Changes I Should Make To America ?’ and he smiles.
‘OK, ‘ she said. ‘That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass - .
Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow
Turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass.
Why do you suppose that is?’
Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks About it and says, ‘Hmmm, I have no idea.’
To which the little girl replies, ‘Do you really feel qualified to Change America when you don’t know shit ?