HUGS and LOVE FROM DENVER
PUMAS – stay the course. We expected this. Our mission has not changed. This is no longer about Senator Clinton – this is about all of us who have been told to sit down, shut up and fall in line. This is about all of us in Denver and around the nation who have been counted out.
I ask that ALL PUMAS consider Hillary’s message from last night.
“When you hear the dogs – KEEP RUNNING!”
We will not sit down. We will continue to fight.
We will remember in November.
WE STILL OWN OUR VOTES!
FOCUS ON THE MISSION. DEMOCRACY.
Tomorrow is a new day. Be good to each other. We must remain united.
Mama, Murphy, Maryland
I will post more when things calm down here in Denver.
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1st?
this sucks!!!!
Is there any way we can tell how individual delegates voted? Especially Superdelegates??
I am in tears. How could they do this to the Clintons, the voters, America’s democracy?
I was hoping, but I am not surprised. Fraud.
We ha ve to stay united and plan our strategy – for a fight it is! This is just so unacceptable.
save some donation $ for the lawyers we will be needing
Hillary said, “Keep Going.”
I’m here and very upset
Still getting errors of posting to fast slow down
This is not party unity. It’s a conspiracy
Help, what’s happening…what’d I miss.
Just got home from picking up hubby from work.
My USA has gone to war with nations that have done elections like this….this is not my USA!!!
This is an outrage. I am glad that Hillary’s delegates left. Who would want to personally witness the degradation of our wonderful democratic society. We’ll be back!
When Hillary released her delegates today, she may have permanently lost my vote. Why did they even need to spend the time and money for a convention. The Democratic voters have no voice, only the party leaders.
We will never donate money to another Democratic candidate.
Keep going Pumas since the party is in the tank.
#3 well we know how AR voted, Hillary’s state, he got all of her delegates. And this after Chairman Gwatney was murdered for supporting her. That hasn’t been proven but you will never convince me otherwise.
‘If you hear the dogs, keep going. If you see the torches in the woods, keep going. If they’re shouting after you, keep going. Don’t ever stop, keep going. If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.’
Hillary Clinton
Everyone has a right to be upset and outraged. But we also have to look to the future. We have to defeat this guy…
Zimbabwe hold fairer elections than this.
768 Alice Rodham Puma …..you are right. we need to mobilize RIGHT NOW !! WE NEED TO GET McCAIN ELECTED………….. THIS IS A MOCKERY OF JUSTICE. I AM SO TICKED OFF I CAN’T SEE STRAIGHT.
THESE DEMS NEED TO BE BROUGHT DOWN……HOW DARE THEM !!! HITLER LIVES…NOT ON MY WATCH.
This is really bad. Based on comments from Denver I at least thought we had a glimmer of hope.
#3 pa dem
Is there any way we can tell how individual delegates voted? Especially Superdelegates??
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that’s what i want to know. need to vote against them in next election
1. Is PARTY UNITY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE TRUTH?
2. IS THE PURPOSE OF PARTY UNITY TO OVERLOOK FRAUD AND CHEATING?
3. IS THE PURPOSE OF PARTY UNITY MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING THE COURAGE OF YOUR CONVICTIONS?
4. DOES PARTY UNITY MEAN SUCCUMBING TO AN ORCHESTRATED VOTE BASED ON ILLEGAL RESULTS?
5. DOES PARTY UNITY MEAN THAT ONE SHOULD SUBMIT TO A DOCTORED BIRTH CERTIFICATE, 20 YEAR TIE TO A RACIST CHURCH, AND JUST PLAIN OUTRIGHT LIES, ETC.?
5. DOES PARTY UNITY MEAN THAT IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO IGNORE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND THE IDEALS AND FOUNDATIONS OF OUR COUNTRY IN ORDER TO JUST PROTECT ONE’S OWN STANDING AND AMBITIONS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
I hate to repeat this, but I cannot help it. To quote a friend of mine who just said to me “For the first time in my life, I am not proud to be an American!”
His own state passed what’s up with that.
My family and I have already been through this before in a lesser degree in Fla.. It’s stings and hurts worse each election year. This year I can’t even feel it……..I’m numb and it’s way scarier.
I have to say that I have watched conventions for years. This is literally the worst roll call I have ever seen. There is no energy. I even watched Kerry’s roll call and the hall was completely packed. This is literally the most bizarre roll call I have ever seen.
As of now http://www.nobamanetwork.com is actively supporting John McCain. The notice will be sent out the moment Oblahblah is crowned king of the idiots.
Here we go guys…..The total Hillary defection.
Whoever said they were walking into McCain headquarters…I’m going with you! My family is going with me.
OBAMA, let the games begin!
For me I started out supporting Senator Clinton. That was my primary goal, To get Her elected,but the more I learned about Obama, the more I realized that I did not want whoever is pulling his strings and giving him the money to buy out our democracy.
When i wake in the morning my thoughts are first and foremost about God,family and then country. I cannot support a man that doesn’t believe in the principles that I believe in,so for me it is easy.
It is country before Party,it is Honor before dishonor. This man refused the bible,refused his own race in favor of terrorists,he has shaken the very foundation on which our country was founded”THE RIGHT OF OUR GOVERNMENT,OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE,BY THE PEOPLE”
SOME OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FORGET THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE WE CHOSE THEM,THEY HAVE SOLD THIER RIGHT TO GOVERN US BY ALIGNING THEMSELVES WITH A LYING,CHEATING WRETCH OF A MAN.
SENTOR CLINTON I CANNOT ,I WILL NOT SUPPORT HYPOCRISY.I WIIL NOT VOTE FOR BARAKH HUSSEIN OBAMA,NO HOW NOWAY.NEVER
I WILL CONTIUE TO FIGHT FOR MY FAMILY,MY GOD AND MY COUNTRY,IN HOPES THAT TYRANNY WILL BE ABOLISHED.
I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR YOU SENATOR CLINTON,BUT ITS NOT ABOUT PLATFORM IT IS ABOUT TRUTH AND RIGHT AND JUSTICE FOR ALL VOTERS IN OUR GREAT UBITED STATES OF AMERICA.
GODSPEED HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.
GO PUMAS…….
Will they stop the roll call when Ovomit has 2210 votes?
NORTH CAROLINA IS COMING UP./ MY STATE…AND I DON’T EVEN WANT TO HEAR IT…!!! ALL OF THE WESTERN PART OF MY GREAT STATE VOTED FOR HILLARY
wontbackdown: I’m glad I’m not the only one in tears. This is the most horrible sham of democracy I’ve ever seen. Why did I vote in the primary???
It looks like they all threw Hillary Rodham Clinton and our democracy on a mine to save face for the Democratic Party.
Wonder what all of her voters think? No wonder they didn’t want this fraud on prime-time television.
New Jersey: Clinton won by a wide margin and they gave him all her votes
I can not believe that they backstabbed Hillary like this giving her 4 points to his 70 points and so on. I would have never ever asked for her to be put in a roll call if I had ever dreamed this would happen to her. I feel so bad she deserves so much better then this MO and BO should smile now cuz come November I will be glad to see the smile gone when McCain wins. WTF happened to all the mad as Heck Delegates who were going to stand up for her, cowards and backstabbers every dang one of them
#24 Furfle
I’m with you! I have my 13 year old daughter here & I’m trying to explain democracy to her….
#24 Furfle
I’m with you! I have my 13 year old daughter here & I’m trying to explain democracy to her….
McCain has just won the election
OK i get now it’s a game watch us now.
kat – thanks for your post from downstairs. very insightful and uplifting during this difficult time. please re post it.
Hillary won Nevada. Shelly Berkeley led the traitors to Hillary. What was that vote based on, it certainly wasn’t on the caucus?
My Dad and several uncles died for better than this corruption. Chicago thugery. The diminishing of a flame.
omg here she goes….
Want to make a statement immediately following the convention tally? Say the amount of votes for Obama is 1921 and Hillary gets 1084…. We all immediately donate $10.84 to McCains Campaign fund, compliments of PUMA. Also have Darraugh construct a letter knowing why the money was given and what the amount of each donation signifies.
I’m on the other comp. But this sham of a roll call is not even close to reflecting the will of the voters ! why the f*** do we even bother having primaries ??? !!!!
I just don’t believe this $HIT!
The Confluence has some great video and blogs to give us an idea of last evening.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com
obimbo´s ZIMBABWEAN ´S way of politics
I WAS ASKED TO CHAIR THE COUNTY HERE FOR McCAIN. AND I’M GOING TO DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our job (imho) now is to write republicans with issues we are interested in. They want our votes? then they should listen to us. Contacting Carly F telling her if they want our votes, they should include women issues or whatever else we decide to ask for. We must not allow this man to be elected! Democratic Party must learn a big lesson and respect the right of the voters! I would have never dreamed years ago of such a farse taking place in a Democratic Party!
I say rain McCain $10.44 who will match??
This whole thing has to be illegal. Aren’t the committed delegates are bound by individual state law? I do not understand how Clinton has the authority to “release” them. I thought she was just releasing the uncommitted delegates from their pledges.
no hillary don’t do it.
WE must defeat the fraud and John MCcain is our only hope.
Here’s Hillary, she is supposed to hand it all over when it gets to NY, and nominate him by acclimation, I think…is that the word.
Listen guys. The roll call is fake and we already know the outcome.
Everyone already submitted their votes at breakfast, and who knows how many of them left, and their votes were fudged with.
I am just sick of the whole the thing.
The thing is, Hillary gave a presidential speech, and everyone has thought…oh crap, why isn’t she the president OR the VP.
See, it’s just a mess for Obama. Hillary is leaving all this on a good note, with a LOT of respect from the USA. She will continue to be (my) NY Senator, and Obama will go on to lose the general election.
I don’t know how the dates for these conventions were decided, but the republicans lucked out or outsmarted someone by having THEIR convention AFTER Obama’s…not smart. Also, McCain deciding his VP after Obama as well? Bad news for democrats.
Anyway, McCain will only be a one term president, and if Hillary wants to run again, she will start again VERY soon. First she will get lots of work done in the Senate, and likely both she and Bill will each write a book. Hillary will work on abolishing caucuses in the meantime, and then…
Before you know it, the next presidential campaign officially starts again in less than three years. Time will fly, Pumas.
In the meantime, we should make sure McCain offers women more than he has. We should make sure to fight against sexism in the media (MSNBC), etc. We should fight to abolish the caucus system. We should fight against the superdelegate system. We should fight to have a shorter primary period, and there should be a ceiling on how much money each candidate can raise, and there has to be a serious media watchdog during political seasons. We will help those politicians who helped Hillary, and we will defeat those who attacked her or harmed her. I want Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Brazile, Reid, etc etc GONE. And soooo many more.
Time WILL fly. You will see.
From here on out, I can relax and sit back and watch the republicans rip Obama to shreds. I’ll laugh with them tomorrow night as Obama stands in front of his insane Grecian Temple (LOL)….
karma is a b—–.
#1646 kat in your hat on 08.27.08 at 6:28 pm
Yes, Kat. The work goes on. And there is a lot of it to do after this corrupt primary season.
We have to fight on to correct those travesties you described.
We need to use our rage and anger to fuel the massive fight to come.
“Rage Against the Machine” couldn’t be a better band to play at the Barack Coliseum tomorrow night. CAUSE THAT’S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL – RAGE AGAINST THE CORRUPT REPULSIVE DEMOCRATIC MACHINE!!!
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Jon Corzine from NJ just lost every ounce of respect I ever had for him. What a shame. I really used to think so highly of him. What an a$$ he is now.
WHAT WILL BILL DO TONITE??? !!!!
He can’t fake it as well as Hillary!
Hillary looks pale.
We need a Team of good lawyers – if this doesn’t work in Denver we need to know how to precede
This is a SHAM!!! We know it’s a SHAM. Well, I guess the ONC told us for real… we don’t want you!!! GOOD FOR THEM, BECAUSE I DON’T WANT THEM!!!! Let this day go down in the annals of history as an act against the PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES!!! because this is an act by the ONC, by representatives who WERE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US… how can they hold up their heads!!! I guess we should have expected this, but I so was hoping.. I was so hoping…. the ONC is definitely no longer my party and no longer has the values of America.
We must do everything in our power to defeat them all!!!
United WE stand!!! PUMAS!!!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i got confirmation today from the registars office. i am now a republican. when puma starts their own party, that’s where i’ll go. hang in there pumas and lets get mccain elected. a barky presidency will only lead to 12 or 16 years of neocons again just like carter and guess who was carter’s handler? brezenski. just like barky. in fact, doesn’t it make sense for the neocons to get barky into office? then they’ll have free rein for the next 2 decades.
I hear booing.
The following states are in play for November:
New Hampshire Virginia Florida Ohio Pennsylvania
Michigan Wisconsin Minnesota Iowa Colorado
New Mexico Nevada Montana
These states will determine the next President. Pick a state if you live near one of them and work your butt off for McCain.
I really do not like McCain, but I dislike him less than I dislike Nobama.
I live in Illinois by the Iowa border and I will likely be working on the eastern part of Iowa.
Yes, this is a Dem area, but if we can cut the margins down here a bit, maybe McCain can slip in with a slight victory like Bush did in Iowa in 2004.
Best of Luck Fellow PUMA’s. We now have some fun work ahead of us.
(((((((((( Hillary ))))))))))
PUMAS, Keep running!!!
Hillary tosses it!
Am I watching theater? I am laughing and crying at the same time right now…..
I feel like im living a nightmare…. how can they ….I know they know about the fraud…. etc…. we have to fight for our freedom im afraid .
I’m looking at Charles Schumer now on C-Span and I am thoroughly disgusted.
Those votes they just threw weren’t theirs to throw. They were ours.
THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL.
OK ok ok…. we knew this would happen. I personally am angry at Hill for being part of it. But we are not powerless.I want to go after Wasserman. Is she up and running for anything? I will gladly give money to her opponent.
Well, I’m not sad anymore……..now I am royally Pi$$ed
I didn’t see a single Hillary sign at this roll call.
They all threw THE WOMAN on a landmine to save the face of the Democratic Party!
I’m in for $10.44….. wish it could be $10.44 for every member of my family and friends that will now be voting republican for the first time ever! Would be well over $1044.00
You know, if it weren’t for my sweet memories of childhood in America I’d leave this nation gone crooked.
This is so incongruent – they’re all voting for BO, but they’re all cheering her. Isn’t anyone picking up this dichotomy?
Thank you for your donation
Dear Rox4hill2
I want to thank you for taking the time to visit my campaign website, http://www.JohnMcCain.com.
In addition, thank you so much for your generous contribution of $20.44
I felt bad about sending this — but also wanted to remind us what we are fighting for and about. My wife received the following during the roll call .. The Obots just don’t get it .. I can’t believe that they have such a political tin ear. My wife and I are now solidly voting McCain this year ..
Hear is what she got from the One — try not to puke. Also note no mention of Hilary or Bill – what a jerk :
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Dear xxxxxx
This has been a convention of extraordinary moments. Ted Kennedy passing the torch to a new generation. Michelle Obama moving the crowd to tears. And tonight, Joe Biden will give the biggest speech of his life.
Millions of Americans are watching and counting on us to win this election and deliver real change.
They’re not just counting on Barack and Joe — they are counting on you. Hillary couldn’t have said it better: “None of us can afford to sit on the sidelines.”
This is our one shot, so let’s roll up our sleeves — or risk another four or eight years of the same disastrous Bush-McCain policies.
Sign up right now for events happening this week in your community.
Tomorrow, Barack will accept the Democratic nomination, and supporters all across the country are getting together to be a part of this historic moment.
Then, this weekend, we’ll kick off the biggest voter registration and mobilization drive in the history of politics.
Attend a Convention Watch Party this Thursday evening, and find a Weekend of Action event near you — or host one yourself:
http://my.barackobama.com/organizeforchange
If this convention has shown us anything, it’s how much energy and enthusiasm is out there — and how much passion for change.
Voters in all 50 states are realizing what’s at stake. And they’re hearing Barack’s message of change in every corner of the country.
Let’s seize this incredible opportunity and work together to get out the vote like never before.
Attend a Convention Watch Party and host or sign up for a Weekend of Action event near you.
Supporters like you have brought us this far, but there’s still a lot work to be done.
At this crucial time in our campaign, it’s never been more important to get involved.
Thanks,
Jon
Jon Carson
National Field Director
Obama for America
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I guess we will have to rent some togas and Greek columns for the party — NOT !
We are now at the next chapter. Take all of our positive energy and get John McCain elected as our next President. There is no time to get mad, let’s get even by casting our vote on November 4th for McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbdutAlyIBo
Not a dry eye in the house
JUST CUT THE MCCAIN CR-P PLEASE
JUST CUT THE MCCAIN CR-P PLEASE
omg….
I don’t think I’m ever voting for another Democrat in my ENTIRE LIFE.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
#36 jody in florida
Yes, but at least this time we have millions behind us not just Fla. all alone. We’re all here for each other and it is of some comfort.
Did you hear when she said all those opposed say NO, people started to shout no and she interrupted???
I feel like I’m watching an election in Communist China or Russia.
What a repulsive bunch of gutter rats.
KUMBAYA……………..LETS GET TO WORK FOLKS
Stay strong with Hillary, PUMAS. She needs our support now.
Hillary is so sad!
She is made of steel, I swear! I’m in tears! how can she be so strong??? and all alone there with those cheaters and hateful people!
GO MCCAIN!
DOWN WITH OBAMA NOW AND FOREVER!!!
McCain’08
She did it with gritted teeth, she is not happy. she is waiting to get the h out of there. She HAS to do this to stay within the D party. She is not doing it without thinking about the future.
“did hillarys delegates leave her”
Umm, looks like a yes.
Thanks for the new thread, much better but still having trouble posting.
I can understand why some would support Obama, especially after Hillary saying that she’s going to support him.
Well, for what it’s worth, I will do what I can to get the word out to all of my GOP friends about the voter fraud that took place. Like I said before, I admire what you all are going and would be proud to have any one of you on the McCain side. Not where your heart is I know, but I think 4 yrs. of Obama would be a nightmare.
To be honest, McCain wasn’t my first pick for our ticket, I was a Mitt Romney fan. But I think McCain is a decent guy and a moderate plus he has a history of reaching across to the democrats. Not making a pitch for him, just sharing my personal thoughts.
I’m glad I found your site, and again, will do my part to be a voice for y’all on the conservative side.
God speed all.
It is done.
I posted this downstairs during the sham roll-call event:
This is our “symbolic catharsis” alright! It’s a catharsis of anger which will fuel an even stronger resolve to our PUMA mission… & to defeating BO, who represents everything that’s wrong with our Party!
Vote theft.
Dictatorship.
and so it begins–our work is more needed than ever…keep the faith everyone. we lost this battle, but will not lose the war for the soul of the democratic party.
Go PUMAS……..take it to the end…….
Give it to NNNNNobama tonight, BILL.
Hillary must have had her reasons………hope it means a Democratic loss in November.
Is there any thing else she can do to carry his water..and I bet if you went over to his site they would still be back talking her
maybe they’ll pull a stunt w/the VP nomination
I am off to McCain website. I think this party just let the people down and how in the H**l does Hillary think we can back this man. I am Country before party. I do not know what to do now except scream.
She kept her head down and her hands around that pole like thing, I am just so upset well all I can say is it’s RAINING MCCAIN I’M SO DAMN DONE!!!Sorry but i’ve been let down by them all including Hillary if she was gonna do that she should have at least held her head up not down don’t be shy you just sold out your country to a inexperienced man . Everyone be mad at me I don’t care I am disgusted and I’m done.
How ironic!!!!! Jimmy Carter go to third world countries and watch their election to protect VOTER’S RIGHT and votes be COUNTED properly, and YET in his OWN COUNTRY, Carter, John Kerry and other democrats REMAIN SILENT when CHEATING is committed by their OWN PARTY, against their OWN PEOPLE – THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
JIMMY CARTER AND HIS POLITICALLY CORRECT FRIENDS SHOULD SHUT UP! They’re the TRUE EPITOME OF HYPOCRISY!!!
USA have just lost its CREDIBILITY around the world, USA now HAS NO SOAPBOX TO STAND ON WHEN IT COMES TO FRAUD ELECTION! FRAUD ELECTION IS COMMITTED AS WE SPEAK IN DENVER!!!!
SHAME TO ALL LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! YOU’VE CONDONED A FRAUDULENT ELECTION AGAINST YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS!!!!!!
#87 BrooklynNY
I am re-living my Cuban history! I am absolutely destroyed and SOOO MAD!
I will not vote for Mccain , he does not share my values . I live in Texas , so it is a mute point , but I will vote for Nader or someone else and continue to fight to fix my Democratic party .
I suggest a campaign to DNC headquarters tomorrow – just like before – we let them know we’re still not falling in line and will be working to defeat precious in November -
Lady in the pantsuit sang and it was off-key
I watched my vote being shat on. I am ready for President McCain.
Okay, it’s done. Let’s keep it together. It’s always darkest before the dawn. You can see that Hillary is not happy.
our work has just begun
94 LandiPUMA ……………..EXACTLY
Wow, my face stings from that slap.
I want Hillary more than anything else, but if it doesn’t happen – I will vote McCain, I don’t see another choice. He is the only person left that has a chance to defeat him. I will do everything and anything in my power to defeat him.
Now it is time for us to get to work to (1) make sure BO is not elected and (2) to take back our dem party!!!
The little sweetie Nancy P got her wish. In a few months we’ll get ours.
#68 BrooklynNY
[Those votes they just threw weren’t theirs to throw. They were ours.
THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL.]
I’m with you. I had to turn off the TV, I didn’t want to see NY. I’m un tears even though I knew this was a rigged roll call. I just can’t listen to it anymore.
I want to see what Bill has to say – I’M DONE!
Now I look forward to defeating the IMPOSTER.
It is a total fraud. How does our government have the AUDACITY of espousing democracy ANYWHERE. All the treasure and money SPENT on what????? and for what???
The piece of shit is going to get his. To see them all crying – for what – for that piece of s**t???
Democrats everywhere, beware of PUMA power
103 Amarissa……….I’m so sorry
I will not vote for McCain..I am researching to change my registration to an independent.
Well, I’m done with this. Am going to cook. I don’t know why we had a roll call if it was going to be phony. Hillary should have known better that this would not make us feel better only worse. It is obvious she was whipped into submission for the sake of the Party. But I am not a party person, never was, I cross over and vote the person. Wonder what Bill is going to say tonight? I hope he doesn’t fall in line too much. I’ll check back later or tomorrow.
I hope BILL CLINTON would have the nerves to denunciate and codemn the treason that is going on
PUMAS
Get mad, get real mad! OUR WILL HAVE JUST BEEN SUBVERTED! Our votes don’t mean diddly squat to the Democratic Party. Time for all of us to vote these BUMS OUT OF OFFICE!
this is a joke, why did they bother even having this the roll call. Just to stop it and two big states one of his own don’t even announce their numbers.
I will do my darndest to make sure nobama dose not win! What a farce, what a riging they did!
#100 4hillinca
I am with you! I can’t vote in PR but I will do everything else I can to get him elected and my friends and family in Miami will ALL vote for McCain, that I can assure you! they hate O!
Dear God what have they done.
I won’t put Hillary down I really don’t think she has a choice if she wants to stay in politics and do some good work.. Hillary went through this sham roll call for us so our votes would be heard and notice she still wants all votes counted even though it is embarrasing to her..Please don’t desert her now
Donna B on CNN just shut up
i’ve had enough. bbl-
Hard feelings? Party together. Not in my lifetime!
No Way, No Obama in November!
#26 NobamaNetwork
Great idea. I will join your Newwork at http://www.nobamanetwork.com
Pumas, we are the version of the DFA, Move on etc. It will take time, patience but progressive values of fairness, open two communications, respect and honor are worth it. The ONC(neolibs) has been successful in mimicking the neocons strategy of winning at all costs; they want a puppet president too. This is the change Brazilla and company means. The new party is now the “Stepford” Democrats, easier to manipulate and control and will follow lock step, no questions, no informed consent, just reaction.
As the thread says tomorrow is a new day. And this day shall pass, Hillary sent us a message as #16 kat in the hat posted, it is for the future……..
((((Hillary))))
((((Pumas))))
((((Democracy))))
Geez!!! That was just so wonderful….so exhilharating, such a incredibly awesome experience of how the American Democratic electoral process works~~~~~~
I think I’ll go unite with my porcelan throne and celebrate. Barrrrfffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish Bill would tell them all off and then walk out!
We did not get our purple fingers…..
thanks to all at Puma for all you have done so far and all you will do for the future. We have to spread the word, spread it further than we have been able to spread it in the short time we have had… and yet, in this relatively short time, we have accomplished much. We can continue. We MUST continue. I feel ill, especially when I heard Pelosi with her fake vote.. is there a second.. and ayes.. and nos.. skipped that part quickly, not alloiwng there to be any possibility of any nays… I am furious and yes, sick at heart, but somehow we must continue on. NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN TO CORRUPTION!!!!
PUMAS FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.. WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!!!
Everyone repeat those words, let me hear ya:
No Way, No Obama in November!
I hope Obama falls on his face tomorrow, when he takes the stage. I pray that when he gets his composier, the lightening and thunder light up the sky, and hail pours from the sky. Preceding the buckets of rain that follow…. This would be an amazing prelude to the landslide loss he will recieve in November….
The thought of voting for McCain now isn’t as daunting. I guess millions of Republicans/Independents are being “born”/created today. Nice work Pelosi, Dean, Brazile… By the way, I can’t unsubscribe from the DNC mailing list! How do I get off that crappy list?!!!
It ain’t over yet, no way no how, no Obama
alice rodham puma – i know. i was eager to hear the vocal opposition when the chair said, “all of those opposed,” but she didn’t allow a moment and declared obama the nominee.
I hope all the hillary delegates walk out when bill is done
Geraldine said that we need to start “now” to make sure this never happens in history again!! We have to stand up!! She said to start with the media and to start in your local areas – she did NOT say to submit!!!!!
A commentator in FOX said before:
“The problem for the Dems is how do you put meat on the bones?,” he said.
… In other words, HOW DO YOU FILL AN EMPTY SUIT?
They gotta find some gimmicks ’cause there’s little substance there. Like creating a “rock star concert” setting & atmosphere for his speech tomorrow, etc, etc…
I am so angry.
My vote does not count. Kennedy(and i am sorry you don’t undergo chemo and have that much hair and not loose any weight), Kerry, Pelosi, Brazille have chosen the next democratic president. I am so furious I am going to work 10 times harder for McCain. Fuck the undemocratic party.
This is DEJA VU for me! Jesus Christ!!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA!!!! I can understand if USA is a third world country! But this is AMERICA!
I don’t blame Hillary, she’s a victim like the rest of us but she put up a brave face, I applaud her for that.
The DNC, NObama and the Democratic Party will PAY DEARLY FOR THEIR MALFEASANCE!!!!
WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!!!!!
LARA
IT IS HARD TO GET OFF THE LIST, BUT EVERYONE MUST! THEY LOOK AT THAT LIST BY YOUR NAME, THEY NEVER READ THE REMARKS. QUIT THE PARTY!
This mistake was HUGE…….we just lost the supreme court…………………….HISTORY WILL TELL THIS STORY
Just donated $10.44 to McCain and put pumapac.org as the person who referred me.
#117 KENDALBLUE
Thank you, KendalBlue, most of you guys don’t know how it feels to loose a country, I do, Cuba was the queen of the Caribbean, and I will never forget that 29th of march in 1961 when I was forced to leave it behind!
I just hate it that she had to do this, my God…how much more could they demand of her? What unbelievable cruelty. We need another party. So does Hillary.
My primary vote was stepped on – in public…worse then in 2000, 2004…. 2 generations in this home will remember this for the rest of our lives
121 Asian4Hillary ~~~ Thanks! After reading some of your past inspiring posts I was wondering what your take on this would be. Now it’s time for them to see how a cornered Puma acts when it’s really got a bad attitude.
OK, I want to know how we can get the so called Dem Party’s privileges REVOKED of getting their names on the ballot for the General Election?
Revolution.
#105 Susy1945 Yes, let’s do a prowl tomorrow. I wish we could file a lawsuit against them. I’m praying something comes out and he implodes. But, then what, Hillary is now gone, no delegates, she gave them away. She should never have released them. Never, never, never. FDR would not have put up with this shit, he fought and he won.
I was afraid this was going to happen weeks ago. I thought there would of been a bigger fight than this.
NOBAMA, NOBIDEN IN NOVEMBER
What a travesty.
To think that all these years I thought I lived in a democracy.
Kiss the United States of America “goodbye”.
If he and the DNC have their way, it will be one nation under Obama.
#146 hillary2008
You are right! let’s get our names off from every democratic list!
Couple of thoughts.
Everyone who is donating to McCain seems to be doing it .44c. Please email the campaign when you do it to let them know that it is PUMA “change”. He may be able to use it depending on how many of us donate.
Keep your head up. I just went outside and shed my first tears for my country since 911. It is hard to watch. But we must tap into the anger, not the sadness.
I am mainly a Republican. But what happened here was wrong for our country and that comes first for me. Hillary was robbed. We were robbed as women. I would have loved to have had the choice between her and Jmack in Nov. We do not let thieves get off in the USA.
I will register as a Demo if I have to in order to participate in what needs to be done.
I watched it on Fox news, and they bluntly said the fix was in for Obama. How true. I don’t intend to vote for him, no one in my family will vote for him, and I am going to contribute to John McCain on Friday. Whatever we do, besides defeating Obama, we HAVE GOT TO GET RID OF DEAN, BRAZILLE, PELOSI AND RIED. Please lets not forget that!
#26 I will join yur network also.
PUMAS
Please, please, please calm down. We knew this was coming. The fight is not over. November 4th has not arrived.
It is now more important than EVER that we remain focused and determined.
We’ve been here before. Angry. Betrayed. Dismissed. The delegates have spoken as we expected them to. Now we go after those who have betrayed their constituents and made a farce of democracy.
Dean. Pelosi. Reid. Brazille. And every single damn delegate who betrayed us.
You must remember that Senator Clinton did what she had to do. We will do what we MUST do. FIGHT. We know the fix is in, we recognize it, we expose it.
Hillary was the spark – we are the forest fire.
Not Ready To Make Nice lyrics
Forgive, sounds good
Forget, I’m not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But I’m still waiting
I’m through with doubt
There’s nothing left for me to figure out
I’ve paid a price
And I’ll keep paying
I’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
I know you said
Can’t you just get over it
It turned my whole world around
And I kind of like it
I made my bed and I sleep like a baby
With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’
It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
And how in the world can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they’d write me a letter
Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over
I’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
I’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
Forgive, sounds good
Forget, I’m not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But I’m still waiting
WE OWN OUR VOTE. WE ARE ONE VOICE. NOBAMA. NOT NOW, NOT IN NOVEMBER, NOT EVER.
OK PUMAS
This is the second time in 2 days that I have broken my own security rule and bloged but I have have something inprotant to say. EVEN THOUGH OBAMA got the monination he is even farther away from being our president than he was before. WHY, because WE, the PUMA’s found our voices. We have just begun to fight. I now know the name of ever single local Dem anybody, every state rep and senator, and I plan on being able to vote against them and making them aware that it is bacause of Obama that I am doing so. I am going to budget my time so that I can be more available to assist Murphy and you all in defeating Obama. THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME A BETTER AMERICAN. THANK YOU FOR GIVING MY DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER A CHANCE
This is the saddest day in the History of America……………Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Now it is time to take names and make sure this never happens again…Unfortunately the ballots don’t have to be published for a year…they have 12 months to publish.
Now it is that much more important that we grow in strength and move on with the revolution to Citizen Election Reforms were the votes of the citizen are truly counted and appreciated and upheld fully by everyone in the country.
We have so much to do yet before November. And then throughout the next 4 years and on from there…..
This is the first day of The Citizens Sufferage….it takes time and it take strength and endurance everyday….but if it is worth it it is worth the efforts that will be needed from this day forward….We have yet to begin!!!!!
I am so angry!!
I will get back on course once I cool down!
Now we have Obama which sounds like Osama and Biden which sound like Bin Laden …. Osama Bin Biden
#153 pa dem
OK, I want to know how we can get the so called Dem Party’s privileges REVOKED of getting their names on the ballot for the General Election?
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Sounds like a great idea for a prowl after things calm down. Why don’t you email Murphy.
This isn’t over. Maybe I’m just used to my vote not counting since I live in FL….
I hope mccain can do what we failed to do, they have over 65 days. Let’s help him all we can.
I will keep my thought regarding Hillary for now to myself.
It is time to go to Plan B Pumas.
November is just a few weeks away. I will remember what my state did when it comes time to pulling the lever. I’m with you Texas Tigeress, Nader. Maybe this year Nadar will end up with more then 2% of the vote. Now that would send a message.
the only thing that I could watch CNN, and it is pure s***t, they are saying that everybody is so happy of historical moment
This whole mockery was a product of Donna Brazille & Karl Rove – a continuation of Republican politics – the DNC knows that precious will not win in November – they don’t care – they just want to remake the Democratic Party into their image – good luck – I have never voted for a Republican in my life – guess I will be now ……………………..
Democracy in the democratic party has died in 2008. The corrupt Chicago machine has aligned with the socialist DNC leadership and selected their candidate even before the primaries started. McCain has my vote and monetary support now. Nobama is well aware of the PUMA movement and his thugs will be out in full force registering 18 yr olds, convicts, dead people, whatever he can to combat our effort to block him. I love my country too much to allow this fraud, terrorist appeasing communist to ever go near the White House. McCain 2008.
He better get a veep with some zip…He’s up against the Chicago thugs and the fix is in…This is now officially a 3rd world country.
I am in total shock, I can’t believe Hillary did this.. The Democratic Party is going to screw her and blame his loss in the fall on her. He is going down. The Democratic party has been taken over by a dictator, who is even telling Bill Clinton, a former two-term president what he can say, and is on 5 second delay, so they can stop anything he says. I think Hillary should go independent, like Lieberman. The Democratic Party is gone.
My family, of lifelong Democrats, will now be voting for McCain, a first.
Ok Maryland PUMA I’m calm now and am ready to keep working. I knew this was coming so I was surprised how upset it made me.
Keith Olbermann shut up!
Well, folks, looks like some people can fool themselves and pat each other one the back with their corrupt victory. I do not know how they can live with the deceit.
I do not understand how the delegates couldn’t just do the right thing and present a true representation of our votes.
I have lost faith in people in our democracy. (except us)
This was done to prevent the Super Delegates from having to determine the nominee. They didn’t want the blood on their hands. So they went behind the scenes and coerced the delegates (threatened) to protect their own political careers and keep their mansions and summer homes.
Pathetic. False. Evil.
Did you notice that they stopped right after New Hampshire?
Carol Shea Porter $11,500 from Obama and $10,000 form Pelosi is having trouble in NH and may lose.
So she thought this was her way out by declaring unity
for NH and selling our votes. She is getting tons of calls from people that aren’t happy with her.
Why don’t we expose her and help her out the door. This is something positive we can do!
No way, no how, No Carol Shea Porter.
I cried for 5 minutes. Now I’m just fuming…I will vote Republican for the first time in my 66 years on earth. My father would be proud.
Go Hillary 2012!
149 Amarissa – My inlaws were also forced to leave Cuba . My partner did a thesis on the cult like atmosphere of Fidels folowers at the time and how her parents had their business taken over by the govnt. On their last day in Cuba , her mother walked through a line of guards who spat on her and her children as they were allowed to go to the church for mass the last time … That feeling of utter betrayel and corruption of the government and leadership is what many of us are feeling right now …
#93 mick on 08.27.08 at 6:51 pm
Many of us will join forces w/ MCain/Conservatives.
****MARYLAND****
(if you’re still here)
Do you know whether individual delegates’ votes are public record?
As my husband just said “Unity’s just another word for nothing left to lose.”
A commentator on TV said earlier today that there’s a lot of anxiety in the convention among Dems about whether BO can win (in Nov)… because this is a year that if the Democrats don’t win, it’s going to shake up the Party and make them go to square one to start all over from there.
In other words: If the Dems have another major defeat, in a year when all the odds favor a Democratic win in Nov., it will spur the DNC to really take a deep look at what they’ve done wrong, and what doesn’t work in their Primaries-system, etc, to see what they need to change.
They will have to re-evaluate and re-design things if they don’t want to go on loosing!
And that’s exactly what we want!
So… looks to me like IT’S TIME TO PUT A LOT OF OUR ENERGIES INTO DEFEATING BO!
For those donating money to McCain, might want to be careful saying PUMApac. I think pacs cannot endorse a political candidate and we wouldn’t want to put Murphy in a bad position. Be careful doing anything in haste. Obviously, you can check with Murphy on this. I just wouldn’t want to see her/PUMApac put at risk, albeit unintentionally.
They all keep saying this is a moment of history. They are right. It is historical that the 2008 Democratic Convention perpetuated fraud and intimidation in order to foist an unwanted nominee on the American people.
THIS is the CALM before the STORM! WE basically, all EIGHTEEN MILLION PLUS of US, were just sold to OBAMA and his camp like cheap suits! HE will NOT get my vote in NOVEMBER, and when he and his followers and the MEDIA recall the fond memories of the DNC, and WONDER where it all WENT WRONG>>>>>>I HOPE that it hits them all like a TON of BRICKS, we were just put out, shut out, and made to feel EXACTLY like those women and black AMERICANS felt when they HAD NO VOTES…..IN ESSENCE we HAD no VOTES….SO Hillary DID what was expected, but deep DOWN I KNOW she KNOWS that McCain will serve ONE TERM and she will WIN in 2012~! I AM NOT SELLING MY VOTE, OR GIVING IT AWAY, I STILL KNOW OBAMA HAS NO EXPERIENCE…AND THOSE THAT SAY HE IS THE “BETTER” ONE ARE JUST KIDDING THEMSELVES…I WILL STAY THE COURSE! NO OBAMA 2009!
I am just crying now. And it occurs to me that I am sad for Hillary and her dreams, but also I’m sad for the Democratic Party. I was a Dem up through the Clinton years – I always said Hillary was the best thing about Bill. LOL
And although I left it years ago because of the extreme socialist leanings, I find I am mourning today, because that party I knew is dead. It really is. What I saw today has nothing ressembling its rich heritage.
I keep saying it – time to start a new party. Let this be a birth, out of the self-destructive death of the old.
OMG. Some Obamabot on FOX is blaming Republicans for Iran’s nuclear proliferation. Guess this sets the tone for tonight. Most Americans are too smart – give it up Lady.
They all threw Hillary Rodham Clinton on a landmine to save the face of the Democratic Party for “selecting” an unvetted, crooked fraud!
SHE WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD!
HE CANNOT WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION!
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RING! RING! RING! “Hello: This is the Rebublican Party”
“Hello: I am a life-long Democrat and I want to help elect experience, true patriotism, a real maverick and a first lady with a lot of class – owning 7 houses is a plus!”
http://www.nobamanetwork.com/index.html
I don’t see where you register. Or is it just an info site?
We just got a good dose of reality. The illusion that we live in a democracy has been shattered. Some of us have sensed it for a long time, but now it is in our face. We had to know that the roll call would be a sham. Hillary had close to half of the delegates and only got 300+ in the roll call vote. Where were the delegates who represented the 49% who voted for her in the primaries? We’d better start teaching our high school students a very different set of rules about democracy because what I was taught no longer holds. Do you wonder why High school students scoff at the rules? Our own government doesn’t even follow them. John McCain is a good man. I do not agree with some of his positions, but he is honest and will reach across the aisle. I will support and vote for him. GIVE ME A BUMPER STICKER.
Nobama/Nobiden/November
134 Caracal Carrie on 08.27.08 at 6:57 pm
Nope, no purple fingers here. That’s how they do it in those democracies that actually respect the votes of their people
THANK YOU MARYLAND PUMA FOR TAKING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME AND LETTING OTHER VENT THEIRS ON A NEW THREAD.
I LOVE YOU HONEY. STAY STRONG AND REMEMBER THAT BABY PUMA AND I LOVE YOU ALWAYS.
YOU DID GOOD!!! Get some rest and May God Watch Over You and Bring You Home Safe.
Good nite all…………Baby Puma and I have done our part for this day!
Keep the faith and God Bless!!
I hope Bill sings her a love song tonight!
Murphy,
Thank you so much for your words. We add DID see this coming but we carried that little kernel of HOPE in our back pockets that something, somehow would happen.
Now it’s time to plant that kernel and keep going. We are strong and organized and thanks to you we have our voice.
You go girl. Where you lead I will follow! I am with you
#146
I’ve tried many times to unsubscribe but can’t. I think they are making it as difficult as possible on purpose. Jerks.
#114 cjv on 08.27.08 at 6:54 pm
When Schumer started his BOT speech, I had to hit the remote. What a bloody betrayal. He looked like Grandpa on the Munsters. Made a complete fool of himself. His “joy and enthusiasm” looked so fake, so forced….
IT IS A VERY SAD DAY IN AMERICA. We just witnessed the death of democracy in the Democratic Party.
So they won this one, what an empty victory. We will win the next one.
They destroyed democracy. Now we will destroy them.
Wrote down every State that voted – their votes and what was won in the primaries – will post tomorrow when I have it all together – worse case was Arkansas – with no delegates going for Hillary – Indiana was not great either – she only got 6 votes – 32 off from originally won – more tomorrow
“bye-bye, miss american pie.”
Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.
We were singing,
“bye-bye, miss american pie.”
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, “this’ll be the day that I die.
“this’ll be the day that I die.”
Could somebody post what time Big Dawg is talking tonight?
Is THIS what our ‘regime change’ in Iraq is going to look like?
I don’t necessarily agree with everything about John McCain, but I DO agree with his wife’s values. So I will vote for him!
Until then we have to stay together and continue to grow, to become more sophisticated in our methods, more focused even in our targets and we need to bring this tyrrant down before November.
Please!!! Everyone remember tomorrow and next week and next month that we did not come together just to walk away. We are IN IT TO WIN IT!!!!
I hope that Puma PAC will lead the way and help us to throw the Party Leadership out. On to 2012; I hope Hillary has the energy to run again. Notice no one has spoken about her generosity and grace? What a bunch of arrogant jerks. The leadership fits right in with Obama and his narcissistic sense of entitlement. I am so sad that the first AA nominee for President is such a sham.
#190 wontbackdown
Count me in. Dialing now.
201 notfollowinthepiedpiper _ Damn it I wasn’t crying until you HAD to put that song on !!!
Ring ring ring This is PUMAs! LOThanks wont…I needed that laugh..
Don’t Quit Before the Final Buzzer
Reposted from downstairs:
In one of her speeches toward the end of the primaries, Hillary said something about it being foolish to quit before the final buzzer. It was a great analogy for anyone who loves sports.
A team that gives up because it’s behind in the third quarter is bound to lose. But a team that sucks it up and digs deep for everything it’s got has a chance to win in the end.
This particular game isn’t over until the elections in November. Yes, it’s the third quarter and we’re down as far as a team can be. But we’re not out. There are many things still in play, like the Phil Berg lawsuit. There’s still a chance that Obama will foul out before the election.
Stay strong, Pumas.
P.S. I think Hillary Rodham Clinton knew exactly what she was doing!
When they lose in November, the country will be begging her to run in 2012!
We should all race to JM’s website and register.
If the Republican 527′s have anything – they need to bring it out NOW!!!
WE WILL REMEMBER DENVER IN NOVEMBER!!!
Corruption, manipulation, strong-arming of delegates…all in the name of “party unity” for a candidate chosen by Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, et.al.
Democratic principle be damned!
We need to rally and focus our efforts on exposing the corrupt faux nomination. The DNC turned a deaf ear when we cried “foul” — the Republicans are just salivating with the ammunition to bring the Messiah down. I gladly give them my support.
What a disgusting spectacle.
TOPIC: Live, from Denver
PUMAS: About a dozen of us still gathered in a pub in downtown Denver where we have a room to ourselves, beer, & 2 televisions. Lots of tears & long faces, mine included.
However, I doubt any of us regret coming to Denver. We talked to so many people, were approached by so many people who had heard of PUMA. Today I did an interview w/a reporter from Belgium, yesterday many of us talked with news media & Denver Post interviewed a whole van full of us on Monday. On top of that msnbc heard the PUMA growl, loud and clear.
We’re now just processing this corruption and anxiously awaiting Bill Clinton’s speech. I also keep thinking there will be a floor fight, and wondering if a speaker coming up is going to tell it like it is.
Reporters have asked me, “What are you PUMA’s going to do after the Convention?”
I said, I can’t speak for everyone but I’d imagine we’ll continue to work to correct sexism in the media, continue to expose the Caucus Fraud and corruption, and continue to support Hillary Clinton.
PUMAs, thank you from the bottom of my heart for staying united and keeping the home fires burning (trying not to cry). Let’s stand strong and wait to see what takes place the rest of today, and thru November.
We are sick at heart but we are not alone. We will keep our focus and work in our different ways to defeat Obama.
I’ve re-registered independent. I’m not sure yet if I can take the big step of voting for McCain, but I will do whatever I can to keep getting the NObama message out.
Hillary won my state of New Hampshire, and they gave away my vote . . .
I feel so betrayed. I feel so small and helpless . . .
sorry #206 TexasTigress….
john mccain! john mccain john mccain!
I do not comment often. I have been lurking since PUMA was born. ( you all go way too fast for me) I thank you for all you have done and I appreciate having a place to come today to sooth the hurt that has been generated by this day. Very early I knew I could not vote for Obama. It makes my heart hurt to know I cannot find any reason for me to vote for the first AA president. I know there are many who have waited for this day all their lives. I truly feel that he will not lead us in the right direction. Our government is broken and I can see no change happening with either candidate. As Murphy says I hope we will carry on because things can only be fixed from the bottom up. Keep running.
I don’t believe this is a fight that can be won inside the Democratic Party. PUMA should form a 3rd party.
As SM on riverdaughter said “When Democracy Comes Back to the Democratic Party, So Will We”
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chattel
AMERICA IS IN DANGER
because he could win, if they keep using this thugs and zinbabwean ways of politics, and get away with it, plus we will probably have a terrorist as secretary of something
That was the most disgraceful thing I have ever seen. Does she have to sweep up tonight after the Convention as well!!! What the heck do they want from this woman – she looked so sad it broke my heart.
I’ve just become a McCain team member and made my first donation. NOBAMA – NEVER!!!!
Tell us what you want from us next PUMA – we will stay united and see that this sham of a party is defeated in November – We’re The Ones They Never Expected – and……we’re not falling in line and not going away – GROWL!!!!
#208 Firebelle Puma
Don’t Quit Before the Final Buzzer
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I’m with you.
200 Rodham in Flag Thanks so much for helping out.
We need to get ahold of the Delegate doing the McCain ads!!
I’m curious as to the delegates that were in the hallways. I pray that they come out to the media and expose the corruption that they were asked to partake in.
We’re in it to win it…..and beat the DNC at their own game.
NOVEMBER we will REMEMBER!
#201-notfollowinthepiedpiper
me too.. that says it for me..
“bye-bye, miss american pie.”
I’m beyond just voting for McCain. I want to know what our legal options are as VOTERS.
213 hillstheone – That is exactly what I will do .
I think Bill is 7:00 local Denver.
We CAN evolve! We CAN become a Party. We CAN support our own candidates in the future. We CAN mobilize votes AGAINST those who have betrayed us.
We CAN do so much.
Always remember that when we say “We can’t” we are really saying “We Wont!”
PUMAS
I meant EVERY WORD I SAID in the threader.
FOCUS. STAY UNITED. WE FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY.
You all know PUMA PAC has always taken the position that your vote is your own. Where you go from here is your choice. We hope you will stay with us and continue the fight for our rights and for our democracy.
God Bless you all.
My area which is heavily Democratic in NE Ohio, will be going for McCain in the Fall. I can guarantee it!! Every Democratic I’ll spoken to is voting for McCain.
Inspiration from Man of La Mancha
Dear Pumas, for those who love the movie Man of La Mancha, I offer this bit of inspiration …
Hail, Knight of the Woeful Countenance,
Knight of the Woeful Countenance!
Wherever you go
People will know
Of the glorious deeds
Of the Knight of the Woeful Countenance!
Farewell and good cheer
Oh my brave cavalier
Ride onward to glorious strife.
I swear when you’re gone
I’ll remember you well
For all of the rest of my life.
Hail, Knight of the Woeful Countenance,
Knight of the Woeful Countenance
Fare to the foe,
They will quail at the sight
Of the Knight of the Woeful Countenance!
Oh valorous Knight,
Go and fight for the right,
And battle all villains that be,
But oh, when you do,
What will happen to you
Thank God I won’t be there to see!
Hail, Knight of the Woeful Countenance,
Knight of the Woeful Countenance!
Wherever you go
People will know
Of the glorious deeds
Of the Knight of the Woeful Countenance!
WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER !!!!!!
I STAND WITH PUMAS !!!!
If Phillip Berg comes through now, Biden will be the nominee.
SOME INITIAL REGROUPING THOUGHTS
Take a moment to breathe. None of us can continue at this pace for many more weeks and I doubt Murphy can, either, be it for reasons of time, energy and/or money.
Get the word out about anti-democratic practices.
Strategize how to defeat Obama.
If considering supporting McCain, don’t give it away. His campaign should have to give us something in exchange for our support. We may all be feeling very very angry right now, but think about more than just the fact that he’s not Obama.
Target down ticket races, either to ensure Dems in those seats in order to balance a McCain administration and/or to boot out down ticket officials who have been central to this corruption. However, toward that end, let us not act naively. Someone different is not necessarily someone better. Let’s think and analyze each race and available options.
Perhaps we can organize ourselves into committees so we’re not all spinning around trying to cover every base all the time. Obviously, this is Murphy’s baby, so for her to decide.
obama did hillary in running his sexist con game on her..lets see how he does now against john mccain..i bet now he’ll be using the “racist” con game this time..
i say VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!!
Sorry, but she gave him my vote. I’m taking it back in November.
I just registered, thus became a McCain Member. There was a field to add group: PUMA.
Plan B all the way!
I for one need a good nights sleep.
I knew this was coming. I prepared myself for it.
Tomorrow’s another day and there’s a lot to do. Regroup.
Believers:
Don’t loose faith. Too many of us, too many names to mention…have worked hard thus far. OUR WORK IS NOT FINISHED. It has just begun. I believe a good portion of the disgruntled delegates may not even vote for BO at the general election! BO still has to make it through to November, and the GOP has already a good start on the attack.
I agree with a previous blogger, HRC knows she can’t fight the powers that be now. She will fall in line…be there till the end….and reemerge in 2012. It is the ONLY WAY. She gave many clues in her speech last night if you dissect the words.
Remember HRC and BC are great politicians…they have a reason for everything they say and do.
I am very SAD, but on the other hand there is closure with this phase now…..Our true dissention and exposure of the fraud should begin RELENTLESSLY BUT RESPECTFULLY.
The GOP is waiting until 8/28/08 to start the REAL campaign they where hoping and planning for since HRC announced her bid for POTUS.
The DNC/ONC just commited political suicide. His polls will NOT pick up appreciably, if they do it will probably be a hoax.
Stay STRONG remember the PUMAS and other groups do have other agendas…the main one being OWNING OUR OWN VOTES, AND VOTING FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED POTUS FOR AMERICA. BO is not it!
well, i’ll see some of you guys on the mccain blog
at least i know he truly loves his country
at least his supporters behave 1000 times better than the thugs we’ve dealing with the past 8 months
i will NEVER reward Chicago style politics with my Red Blooded American vote
will Obama be the new George Bush?
will his thugs and cronies still the general election?
will America allow this AGAIN?
PUMAS, I come from a family of mixed heritage
I wanted to support the nations first black candidate
i tried to overlook the first strike, but strike after strike my conscience simply would not allow it
not after I learned about this CREEP, not after I learned how he and his wife feel about our country, not after I learned about their divisive perspective on our country and generalized resentment and prejudice toward decent hard-working people
they say they want to be a party of the future
but all i’ve heard about since obama took the stage is slavery injustice and redemption
i don’t need a president for my personal growth and evolution
i won’t be guilted into voting for anyone
NO WAY NO HOW
NOBAMA
Big Dawg speaking at 9:00 pm eastern
If we are not successful in November, the change we’re going to get is democracy to dictatorship.
We’re half way there already. Ughhhhhh.
Obama and his corrupt totalitarian political machine just lost.
TexasTigress I was looking for you earlier but I don’t even think you can help now.
I wish I could get my hands on a bumper sticker that say
this Puma for McCain i own my own voice and my own vote.
#186 Anna7000
oooops. didn’t think of that. can’t undo it though.
No, Biden will not be the nominee, they would have to do new voting.
Actually, correct that, he needs to be nominated first … maybe that is why there was a petition to nominate Hillary for VP?
I am going to wait and see what Bill has to say.
Yes, this was a historical moment – we just saw 3rd World government take-over in action. I sure don’t want this!! There was absolutely nothing democratic about this election. There was fraud, corruption, money laundering, etc. This is no better than how other countries have been taken over!!
What times is Bill on?
50 roxy4hill2 on 08.27.08 at 6:45 pm
I say rain McCain $10.44 who will match??
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#76 roxy4hill2 on 08.27.08 at 6:49 pm
Thank you for your donation
Dear Roxy4hill2
I want to thank you for taking the time to visit my campaign website, http://www.JohnMcCain.com.
In addition, thank you so much for your generous contribution of $20.44
PUMAS we will have to get busy real soon. We have to challenge the Democratic Party’s right to special treatment on each state’s ballots when they have committed voter intimidation and caucus fraud. We have to actively work to remove Dean, Pelosi, Brazille, and Read from office- shortly after the convention the DNC changes leadership. We have alot of work to do.
#213 hillstheone
Thank you from the bottom of my family’s heart.
213 hillstheone ~~~ Thank you. And it’s ok to cry. Everyone of us should be proud of our tears.
monap #222
Thanks for your humor- got me laughing through the tears and clouds.
rodham – thanks for taking the initiative to compile that data. when you post it tomorrow, can you be sure to put a heading in bold or caps so it’s easy to find? i’m working on a relatively major project for a media piece and would love to incorporate the kind of numbers you’ll be pulling together. thank you!
re#235 anna
strategize??? theres only one strategy now and thats voting for john mccain..there aren’t anymore “strategies” left
Hello…..President McCain!!!
Good bye NObama!!!!!!!!!!
#186 Anna7000 on 08.27.08 at 7:07 pm
Dear Anna….No need to check with anyone if individual Pumas want to donate to John McCain. We are all individuals, free to donate to whomever we want. We don’t need Murphy’s permission to exercise our rights to support to whomever we want, financially or otherwise.
PUMA has repeatedly advocated donating to Hillary’s campaign debt. We cannot coordinate with a candidates campaign, but as individual members we can donate to whomever WE WANT.
If a check DRAWN ON PUMA PAC’S bank account is issued to a particular campaign that may be a different story, but as individual PUMA’s we can do whatever we want. Saying “PUMA member” on a donation, but having donated funds coming out of our own personal financial accts is our own business!
#231 Maryland PUMA
I’m not going anywhere!
oops..sorry #236 anna
#248 ROSEMAY57 I think if he is nominated as VP and the lawsuit did come through he would be nominated automatically. I could be wrong, but I read it on another blog somewhere … but we need to check out the rules,
I totally agree the battle much more far reaching than just Hillary. We WILL get her elected in 2012, but we must regain the democratic party. I had already decided to vote for McCain, grudgingly, because the DNC charade is going as planned. I will, however, vote for the downline democrats to keep McCain in line.
This struggle will go on as long as we work together.
I will remain a PUMA!!!
#236 Anna 7000- great rational ideas- does anyone have news on the Berg lawsuit?
Lara08— Stay on the DNC mailing list…. There’s a cliche, keep your friends close and your enimies closer, then you have an edge up on what the next ass-in-eyin actions we need to challenge….
Sounds like a job for Heidi Li and maybe jbjd. I’ll e-mail jbjd and get her take on this.
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#169 Jody in FL
153 pa dem
OK, I want to know how we can get the so called Dem Party’s privileges REVOKED of getting their names on the ballot for the General Election?
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Sounds like a great idea for a prowl after things calm down. Why don’t you email Murphy.
This isn’t over. Maybe I’m just used to my vote not counting since I live in FL….
CBS News just made PA folks look like a bunch of racist hicks. I guess that’s going to be his tactic from here on out. Makes me sick.
#199 BrooklynNY
I will need to get over the intial anger, take a deep breath take a couple of days away from this. Then it’s letter writing time for starts. And it will be to every SD in New York. And I will stress “I will never forget [the travesty and betrayal towards your constiuents] on August 27th”.
This is good old Chicago style politics! I say we hire an independent investigator to explore every aspect of this election. The politicians and the media are not interested.
That is until it comes out and then they will be jumping all over themselves to right the wrong. Until then, they are all blind, deaf and dumb. We are the truthsayers! Let’s continue our mission, PUMAs!
#239 LatinPuma give me that link.
I understand we all knew this was going to happen but at least for me and maybe others I never in my wildest dreams imagined it would go down like this giving her stupid little 4 points and him the rest.
#249 Alice Rodham Puma
That’s what I’ve been thinking. And before anybody jumps on me for being a troll, I DON’T want to see Hillary as VP. But if BO were to be found ineligible to be POTUS, I would rather have her than Biden.
I will come back tomorrow to lurk . If Puma pac remains committed to unseating the corrupt officials in the DNC and to fixing the Democratic party , I will be in with both feet . If our pac turns into a fromt for a Republican candidate , I will find a new home .
Thanks Pumas – let me know what you need from me – I’m not done – precious is going down.
It’s not Hillary’s fault. The DNC is to blame. We know they have been just as dirty as BO from day one.
Hillary will have an awesome 2012! We will be there, still as PUMAS, to help her.
Now we must fight the battle we knew was comming. I’m ready. NOBAMA!!!!
brooklyn – yeah, i know we’re all free as individuals to donate to whoever we want. i was just concerned that if we identify the donation as being linked to PUMApac in any way that it could put murphy at risk.
I got kicked out of my computer the first time i tried to post this so am trying again. Don’t know if it went through
OK PUMAS
This is the second time in 2 days that I have broken my own security rule and bloged but I have something important to say. EVEN THOUGH OBAMA got the nomination he is even farther away from being our president than he was before. WHY, because WE, the PUMA’s found our voices. We have just begun to fight. I now know the name of ever single local Dem anybody, every state rep and senator, and I plan on being able to vote against them and making them aware that it is because of Obama that I am doing so. I am going to budget my time so that I can be more available to assist Murphy and you all in defeating Obama. THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME A BETTER AMERICAN. THANK YOU FOR GIVING MY DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER A CHANCE
This is a disappointment, but we still have much work to do. This is just the beginning of our national reform movement.
What did we really expect from a corrupt and faceitous party? What else could these unethical people produce but more unethical results? This is the end results of the manipulators and the crooks.
Puma, as a group still has much work to do. We either form a new party, or we refrom the old. Which direction this takes depends on whether the current Obama party wins or loses this fall. We have to work hard to make sure he loses. That would the be lesson they need to learn. That would be the catalyst for change that we need.
As each and every one of us go forth, proud and dissatisfied, we can make a difference. I am going to call my friend Jody, a staunch republican, and have him bring me over a yard sign for McCain. I will take my Hillary sign out of the yard, and put the McCain sign there. That will be my tantrum.
What I expected was that corrupt Superdelegates would put him over the top. What I did not expect was that people we had elected to represent us, the pledged delegates, would go against the will of the voters.
THAT is why I am in tears.
Murphy/Maryland PUMA: We need action. We can’t let this go unanswered.
Watching and listening to Hillary ask for vote by acclimation was reminiscent of when I was a kid…..getting my own switch for a whipping.
I don’t understand it all but this I know; I am proud of her and so very proud of ALL OUR PUMAs.
We need to stay focus and make sure McCain wins in November. If we don’ t vote or give our vote to Nader, it will increase the chances of Obama winning. We need to use our one vote to make a big impact. I have been a democrate for 56 yrs. But I have no problem for McCain because he is qualified to lead our country and he does put our country before himself or his party.
Heidi Li of the denver group did warn us
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/warning-what-you-are-about-to-see-is.html
#254 lisa on 08.27.08 at 7:18 pm
Yes, lisa. I completely agree with you. We have a lot of work to do. I know I have a LOT of anger right now, all bursting at the seams to be poured into constructive action. Starting immediately. (Or maybe after I vent a bit).
242 NativeFlowerM Just remember that PUMA needs you too. You are so very nice!!
I am so MAD – I feel like screaming & crying at the same time! OH GOD please let November get here fast. It’s time to fight AGAIN and FIGHT HARDER this time……. I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE BO RUNNING BACK TO THE SENATE AS A “JR” SENATOR WITH HIS LEGS BETWEEN HIS LEGS – THAT WILL BE A HAPPY DAY!
#268 Ladyhawkke
Let’s try to get it organized as an official prowl from murphy this time though.
#268 Ladyhawkke
Let’s try to get it organized as an official prowl from murphy this time though.
Tell the gloating media that at least some of us are going to shout “Resign, Obama!” from now till … the electoral college meets, or Nov 4, or whenver the deadline would be for gettng a real Democrat in to replace Obama.
And others will be researching how to replace Dean, Brazile, etc.
Obama resigning is very possible — to save his own hide when he sees he cannot beat McCain and is in danger of becoming the McGovern of 2008.
His backers may consider him expendble but his own ego does not. Resigning before defeat, gettng himself out of the firing line — would be just his style.
160 Amarissa on 08.27.08 at 7:02 pm #146 hillary2008
You are right! let’s get our names off from every democratic list!
better to keep them on so you know what they are up to.
I have been out all day and based on your comments, I’m guessing Hillary didn’t get the ‘fair’ roll call? I cried me a river last night and now, I’m just angry at the sham called the DNC.
Like Hillary said, keep going. And I will, I’ll keep on going and will make sure I remember this day on Nov. 4th.
No way, no how, NOBAMA!
Thank you Murphy, thank you Maryland, thank you Mama and everyone else who worked so hard. I will continue to support PUMA’s efforts. Right now we all need to appreciate ourselves for all the work we have done and sit back for a moment to regroup. THANKS SO MUCH TO YOU ALL. I’m the lucky one. Hillary is my senator.
#152 LivingGrace on 08.27.08 at 7:01 pm
I will tell you my take on this. I grew up in a third world country. Growing up I ALWAYS look up to AMERICA, a righteous country, always doing the right thing for their people, protecting voter’s right. I always look at AMERICA, the beacon of Democracy, one man, one vote, a person’s vote is SACRED. My father was a natural born American, he taught me at an early age American values. He taught me about democratic process, democracy, respect of the constitution, second only to the bible; I embrace them all and keep it close to my heart. I risked my own life for democracy, although I grew up in Asia, my values was never Asian, always American values, following footsteps of my father whom I loved dearly, my hero my confidant.
What took place in Denver shook my core beliefs about democratic system of this country. It hits me hard, I can’t put it into words. I wish I can explain to you how I feel right now, its a BIG LETDOWN for me. I’ve spent 16 years of my life fighting for Democratic process and Democracy in another country, I risked it all – including my own life, I couldn’t care less if I make it another day; am I going to face the same thing in this country? Am I going to risk again my own well being so others can live free? My fellow Americans vote will be counted and sacred? Is this what God intend me to do, standing up and speaking out again? Maybe this is the reason when bullets were aimed at me, it didn’t hit me but killed my friends. Maybe this is God’s will, I have to be here to awaken the people to stand up now and speak out before its too late. I speak through experience, what I’d been through, I don’t want any of you to go through it, I don’t want this country to go through it.
When I joined puma pac, I knew I’m in this for the long haul. Real change comes from all of us! We are going to change our democratic process, the voice of the people must be listened to, not ignored. OUR VOTE IS SACRED, that’s the MOST powerful weapon we have against elected government officials. We must use our pen matched with our brain and common sense with STRONG DETERMINATION to correct the wrongs committed against the American people.
We can’t afford to get emotional about what has just happened. We need to work hard on defeating Obama in November.
OMG THIS IS SUCH A FRAUD THE DEMS. HAVE LOST OUR FAMLY
JOHN MCCAIN
JOHN MCCAIN
JOHN MCCAIN
273 jody in florida We need to ask Heidi Li and the Denver Group. (or find it in the rules)
Well, its over. I’m glad i’m voting Green this year. Atleast one party nominated a capable woman.
Cynthia will NEVER stand aside for a man.
**Especially an unqualified, arrogant man.
I yield not, I fight.
Our fight is not over. We GOT HER NAME ON THE ROLL CALL! REMEMBER THEY DIDN’T WANT IT AT ALL.
We are here to let the public know that our GREATER MISSION WAS TO SERVE COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
Our GIRL DIDN’T MAKE IT…..And neither will BO!
McCain ’08
McCain should get about a 15 point jump now.
The travesty today is there for all to see.
Like they said. This has to happen from the bottom up.So everyone of you that has been disgusted by the sham of this covention.Go home. Talk to your local democrats and candidates. Tell them they can no longer count on your support by voting the usual straight ticket.When they ask you why. Tell them to ask the leadership of the party why your votes weren’t represented so why bother.Then elect John McCain. He is a patriot, he is not Bush. He is pandering, yes, but he will govern from the middle and congress will keep him in check. After all, it was a democrat, Joe Biden, that gave us Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court. Funny huh?
the thing that gets me is the people from CNN
is like they do no know any corruption
they are so happy
#277 Anna7000 on 08.27.08 at 7:23 pm
I understand, Anna, and it is very thoughtful of you to be concerned. I do not believe it puts Murphy at any risk. She cannot be held accountable for the actions of any individual action of any PUMA member who acts in an UNofficial capacity.
We have identified ourselves over and over again as Hillary supporters. There was no problem with that, right? So please do not worry. Identifying ourselves as PUMAs – Hillary Democrats- who are now supporting John McCain (or any one else) is not a problem either.
It has been a great week here in Denver and there has been a lot of tension among the delgates, media, and Obama people on the street.
Obama people are still telling us they don’t need us, still being disrespectful. Their attitude has not changed in 3 months. I’ve never been treated so badly face to face, not even by the republicans.
I find it odd that they are so confident that they think they don’t need so many millions of voters. How do they plan on making up that voter deficit? Have they not thought of that? Do they now own the voting machines?
PUMAS..
THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY NOW TO STOP OBAMA AND THATS BY SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN..THERE IS NO OTHER WAY AROUND IT NOW..AND NO THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE A REPUBLICAN “FRONT” FOR THE GOP..
Well, Let’s focus on the fight for democracy and getting our voices heard and making sure Pelosi and Dean get the boot along with Brazille and the other immoral morons at the DNC. AND to oust any delegate, if possible, that WE KNOW did not vote the conscious of the PEOPLE> MY GOD, I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THAT IN AMERICA!
Sly I can make it for you in my cafe press store
A LITTLE PICK ME UP (maybe)
just think, in a few days the gop is going to pull out all the stops now that they know they’re up against the candidate they prefer to be up against. and they have a large staff and a lot of money. so, help is on the way!!!
It was Ceasar dragging Cleopatra behind his chariot for daring to rule the world!
The Democratic party just sent me a strong message-that my vote does not count. I will make sure that it counts in November.
I mean you could get it for what I pay not that I am trying to sell it to you
#305 pink puma
DITTO!
I am not going anywhere. The fight just got more personal for me.
My goal now is not to elect McCain, but to defeat BO. But, I will do it anyway I can – and the options are to stay home, 3rd party, write-in (which could legally go to BO in some states), or McCain.
Many, many options!!!
WE WILL REMEMBER DENVER IN NOVEMBER!!!
I tried to post this earlier but got error messages 20 times, but I’m going to try again. I’ve never said a negative against Hillary Clinton before, but there can be no legitimate reason for her to stop the roll call vote. None. I supporter her with every other thign she did, but when she released her delegates, I wavered and now this. I don’t care what they used against her, she did not stand up and fight. No matter what they promised her it is an empty promise and they do not keep their promises. She knows this.
a new AOL straw poll is up http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/26/aol-straw-poll-aug-25-sept-1/
Or you can go to cafepress and just have them make it
Tigress……please do not leave me
#293 Asian4Hillary
Thank you for sharing your story. I’m with you. With “strong determination” and “never quit” attitude WE will succeed.
Let those DNC Fascist and puppet Obama be happy now, but I can’t wait to see them cry in November!
Just gave $100.00 to McCain. Got Signs .. everything McCain …….
RE#306 mimi
WE SHOULD FOCUS ON STOPPING OBAMA AND THAT MEANS SUPPORTING JOHN MCCIAN
((((((((((((Asian4Hillary)))))))))))))))))
I am glad you are here with us. We are stronger for the experience you bring to this PAC.
I would have been prouder of Hillary if she had stood up to the thugs in the Democratic Party. She let evil win. There was a more honorable path–the truth. They can’t stand the truth.
And the truth is that they can pretend in the mirror all they want, but WE are out there. And WE will bring this travesty down.
Durn it. Wasserman Shultz is running unopposed in the 20th district in Florida. She was also appointed by Pelsoi to a young leadership committee. Wipe my well… anyway. Don’t we have anyone in Florida 20th D to take her on?? What a free ride for a traitor.
Henerietta,
You said:
“I will take my Hillary sign out of the yard, and put the McCain sign there. That will be my tantrum.”
If you want to really make a statement to the DNC ….. Place the McCain sign right next to Hillary’s and leave it.
Thats what I plan to do. I am a puma democrat voting Johh McCain who will do things much smarter in 2012.
That’s what Ceasar wanted to do but supposedly she took her own life instead!
The only good things are we still own our own votes and we’re all mad enough to cause some real change!!
Some of us will McVote, some will iVote, some will NoVote. I think that is what makes PUMA so strong…we understand people will have their own opinons and we repect them for it.
JUST DON’T BoVo!!!!! (hmm…that sounds a little like a disease) Vote so you can sleep at night, unlike the deligates.
It wouldn’t have mattered what Hillary did or said, the DNC and the super Ds were in Obamabi’s pocket from the start.
On to the General Election!!!!! WE will remember in NOVEMBER!!
Rain for McCain 2008
Hillary 2012
BO’s camp will be sick to know that we serve multiple purposes. We will NOT dissove just because HRC has given in.
I respect HRC! BUT Thank You Hillary……We will take it from here!
#272 slyt2
http://www.johnmccain.com/HomeLogged.aspx
1. action 2. join McCain Team
I’ve just watched the delegates from my state, which went 70% for Hillary, cast a unanimous vote for Obama.
My anger has turned to resolve. I am ready to work, guys. I am committed to the destruction of the apparatus that made this happen, and the end of the political careers of ALL who were a part of it — from Dean, Brazile and Pelosi down to the delegates who betrayed the people who sent them to Denver.
Put me to work!
Does anyone know where I can purchase Hilliary/McCain button? I am very very sad and angry. I hope to never be so invested in another political candidate. At least I have no problem knowing how I will vote in November.
#270 cjv on 08.27.08 at 7:21 pm
I am completely with you. Yep. I’ll be doing the same.
Had to do something ~~ so very sad ~~ so I get mad!!
I used lobbydelegates.com one more time and e-mailed NJ delegates ….
I am so very unset with the Democratic Party and the shame of an election process. I believe the Party headed by Howard Dean and likely Nancy Pelosi contrived to make history. They selected a candidate that would put the Party and themselves in the history books. I guess the race card trumps gender for top billing!
Needless to say I will not be a member of a Party that is so undemocratic in its practice. In theory my heart is still with the Democrats, but until the day comes when there is true reform, honesty and equity I will be known as Independent! I will remember in November ~ No Way No How NoObama and any other Democrat that is running!!
That AOL straw poll has about 60K votes. over 70% McCain. I’d say that’s a landslide.
RE#327GOING
RESPECTFULLY CONSIDER THIS>> NOT VOTING FOR JOHN MCCAIN IS THE SAME THING AS VOTING FOR OBAMA..
I encourage everyone to give everything you can afford to McCain. We raised over 6 million to clear Hillary’s debt and we can do it again!!!
Go read this at riverdaughters site. Should be a prowl.
“Dear NJ delegates, *I* didn’t release you”
#321 pink puma,
You are right. That’s the only way that he will be stopped. If people stay home or vote 3rd party Obambi will win.
Time to implement plan B
NO WAY
NO HOW
NO BAMA
ASIAN 4 HILLARY
I think since americans never experienced a war at home, a lot of them do not see the danger of this guy, they do not see the evil behind him, they are naive in this sense
Can we pick a number for our donations to McCain’s campaign? How about $16.40 to represent Hillary’s pledged delegates? (I gotta do something now or I’ll explode!)
Don’t call it plan B. I hate that letter!!!
I will fight with all my might for everything we are working for. I do wish Bill would get up tonight and tell them all off then walk out ! The war is on time to defeat nobama. I need mccain signs for the yard.
BigCatLover: The *real* question is what did they threaten her with. Because undergoing that theatrical show, where everything was staged…..
184 jody in florida
at the convention today it appears from the phone calls some of us got from delegates was that the secret, written on paper, ballot was done at the hotel this morning. if there usually would have been public record there will be no way to find out their vote now. it was controlled by *61 peeps.
Just left this at Heidi Li’s:
Thank you for your insight, Heidi. I already knew the roll call would be rigged in Obama’s favor. What I want to know is why would Hillary even ask for the roll call if she were going to give pledged delegates she earned to Obama? She had no right to give our votes away. This is not a catharsis for us. We are living in a third world country. Aren’t men dying in Iraq for democracy?
Do we have any recourse for a class action lawsuit against the DNC?
THIS DNC CONVENTION OUTRAGE SHALL NOT PASS THE SCALES OF JUSTICE.. WE WILL PUNISH THE DNC BY OUR VOTES THIS NOVEMBER!!
How about plan M
we will take back the letter B
I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL:
There may be Republicans now coming to this site to get us to join them. That is NOT what PUMA is all about. We need to keep focused on the mission – defeat BO. How we each choose to do that is up to us, but we can NOT let this become a McCain site. We stand to loose a lot of good PUMA’s that way.
#4 wontbackdown wrote:
“I am in tears. How could they do this to the Clintons, the voters, America’s democracy?”
Crying,.. please. Who cries any more? Just think what do you do when tears don’t help? You get mad right? Then you get even.
This was all very interesting and entertaining but please. Not one tear from me do ya get. I am a mean old witch.
Billary moves on. So do we. Lets get to know McCain!
You know he likes to fight back no matter what rubber hose you beat him with. I relate to that.
Hell I am a Sagittarius, I am loving this fight honestly.
I did cry a bet a while back when I saw the Democrats were morons. I have had bad boy friends be for.
This is just another one of thoughts.
Roll Eyes move on.
I went and donated 100.44 for my Hill to John
#313 Middle Age Woman
I am not going anywhere. The fight just got more personal for me.
My goal now is not to elect McCain, but to defeat BO….
#332 Tom Terrific
My anger has turned to resolve. I am ready to work, guys. I am committed to the destruction of the apparatus that made this happen…
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I’m with you. This is August. The GE isn’t until Nov. We have a lot to do. I’m thinking about emailing Murphy and asking about a separate thread for McCain talk. It’s distracting.
they can’t have an entire letter, no way
my son’s nickname is B and I”m not going to stop
I JUST KICKED THE ASS IN THE ASS..BRING ON THE ELEPHANT!!
McCain says, “Country First,” and that’s what this is all about now. I have no illusions that his party is perfect–no one is, but after this—-something has to shake it down. Someone has to crack it wide open. Some cats need to claw this facade off the face of democracy.
OUR TIME IS NOW.
I was at the RBC meeting till the bitter end. After the final decision….we shouted McCain for President as the RBC group left the meeting.
We waged war and our commitment to McCain then…because the writing was on the wall then. Obama won this nomination in January 1, 08 and most likely before that.
Let us preserve the honor of this country and its Democracy. We must expose the fraud of the party and BO the fraud.
I took off from work early to come home and watch the Roll Call only to be profoundly disappointed to see it go as Obama had scripted. I’m deeply upset… and I have no doubt this emotional depression will soon turn into an anger that the Democratic Party has never witnessed before.
It’s said that “Hell hath no fury like a woman’s scorn,” — well what about the scorn of 18 million women?
Didn’t jbjd say something that we have 24 hours after NO NAME is the nominee to send letters to our States regarding his name on the ballots – if we blocked him on several states (and did all of the states that were required to give her their votes do just that before she gave up) maybe there is a legality somewhere – I was totally afraid that if Michigan and Florida got full votes they would give majority to him
In unsubscribing to the Democratic party emails, I wrote the following:
This party is fraudulent and un-American. We just witnessed the death of democracy and the birth of a new nation conceived on cheating and lies and dedicated to the proposition that only a few are created equal and the rest shall be puppets. Will be voting for John McCain.
Perhaps there is some way that Pumas can use the Gettysburg address.
rtr4hill said ~
#176 rtr4hill on 08.27.08 at 7:06 pm
He better get a veep with some zip…He’s up against the Chicago thugs and the fix is in…This is now officially a 3rd world country.
rtr4hill, if you mean McCain, rumor has it that he’s going to pick either Gov. Mitt Romney or Alaska’s Gov. Sarah Palin.
Palin isn’t well known but she’s a very strong woman. A mother of 5, last child is a baby with Downs Syndrome. I would love to see him pick Palin but I have a feeling that he will pick Romney. We’ll know on Friday.
http://gov.state.ak.us/
336 pink puma
It’s true that voting McCain is a direct hit to O’s base voters. It is the best mathmatical choice to NOBAMA.
I’ve been voting McCain since June (ie goingtoMcVote)
I’m more saying if you really can’t vote for McCain, please don’t leave PUMA PAC because I am going to vote McCain. We need everyone so changes in the party will happen.
middle age female – wise words.
This post may not have made it before…
Just want to thank my state HRC delegates, all but one of whom stayed strong, stayed with Hillary and voted for her today…
you make us proud.
your peeps back home say THANK YOU — YOU DID YOUR BEST.
JODY.. WHAT OTHER WAY IS THERE TO STOP OBAMA IN NOVEMBER OTHER THAN SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN..IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER PLEASE SHARE IT WITH US..
314 BigCatLover
i am not a political expert, so this is just a thought. If what all the different blogs etc are saying is true, that the delegates were bought, and threatened etc. and then today the votes were really done prior to the actual roll call,and the roll call was scripted so Obama would win by a big margin then if the roll call went all the way through it would look like HRC lost to Obama. If she were to run against McCain in 2012 that might not bode so well for her career. What do you think?
I just got a letter back from Congresswoman Maloney someone said she wasn’t voting for hillary on the last post so i wrote her before the joke of a roll call anyways if anyone cares which i don’t she did response and it said
Congresswoman Maloney has asked me to inform you that she will be voting for Sen. Clinton on the first ballot.
Maybe she was one of those two points she got.
Corruption. Fraud. Abuse of democracy. Nobama. Brazilla. Pelosi. Dean. This is the DNC today. The ONLY way to get our country back is to make noname to lose the GE. I am donating to MCCAIN a symbolic $10.44 NOW!
This could be a Puma prowl activity.
Hey everyone – we did expect this (sorta, kinda) but it certainly doesn’t ease the actual hurt, indignation, irrationality and fraud that it truly, really is.
I am still in the “mode’ thinking the good guys should win, but then again, whoever told me life was fair? No one that I recall.
We can only try to make it more fair by focusing like Murphy says and continue our mission and goals to get to our preferred vision for this country.
NoBama – NoWay…..
Tears flow, but hope still burns within for me. I will not cease until this impostor and unqualified candidate is kept out of the White House.
(((((((Anna7000)))))))) ))))))))))BO(((((((((((
293 Asian4Hillary Thank you for your story – it is from the heart! We have unknowingly let the government take over our lives little by little. We put too much trust into our politicians. It is not too late though. We just have to be strong!
unfortunately, as someone stated earlier…if NObama somehow pulls out a win over McCain, after NObama totally screws up, the Republicans will not allow another Democrat in office for YEARS. The republican money will just pull some George W tricks, and the Dems are out. Hillary would not stand a chance to be elected. Her only chance in 2012 is with McCain going in now. I know we are not endorsing specific candidates, but the truth is, the Democratic party is still split.
I’m with the 3M’s here. They did an awesome job representing the PUMA’s. Ladies be safe getting to your respective homes, families and lives. Get some well deserved rest, heal those blisters. We await the next step.
Respectfully humbled by all you have done.
#324 virginia.puma on 08.27.08 at 7:31 pm
Maybe we can’t defeat Debbie Wasserman-Schultz in FL, but we can follow her every move, watch every $ she gets in campaign donations, or secures from lobbyists for the DNC and track it to her legislative moves. We can check every single speech she makes in public and pounce on her the second she makes even the slightest mistep. We can make her afraid of her own shadow.
#293 Asian4Hillary
Thank you for sharing your story again. You speak from your heart and it touches ours.
May we regain our focus with you as our inspiration.
Getting hard to post…might have to just lurk.
((((Maryland Puma)))), THANK YOU! There is much pain here as seen in so many words. Tomorrow is a new day, the healing begins, the focus for the cause grows stronger, life is a journey and PUMAS are only beginning to ROARRRR!
Dixie Chicks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g
(((((((PUMAS))))))))
Roxie – matched you
Dear mpdamon,
I want to thank you for taking the time to visit my campaign website, http://www.JohnMcCain.com.
In addition, thank you so much for your generous contribution of $20.44
For those who don’t care for McCain, consider Nader/Gonzalez or McKinney/Clemente, or another 3rd Party option.
Tonight’s events were not a surprise. Hillary and Bill are too main-stream to leave the Democratic Party, so I guess it’s up to us. Besides working to deny the Democrats the Presidency, perhaps we should consider the 3rd Party option as a project after November.
I think Bill should take Hillary by the hand and they should walk out together – for GOOD.
The DP has closed the door to Hillary – I should say slammed the door in her face. There should be no more pretence about 2012 – It will never happen! What has been done, can never be repaired. It’s like a marriage gone bad – no matter how hard you try, it can never be the same – just ask Elizabeth Edwards!!!! I believe she came out of remission because of the stress and pain of dealing with the betrayal – her system broke down – I’ve seen it happen so many times – it’s unforgivable.
I can’t help crying – I’ve given 50+ years of loyalty. For what?? No More!
I will vote for McCain and everyone else who is not a democrat. There is a price to be paid, and it will be very dear!
greta
#351 – That’s a ridiculous comment. We are just as committed to Hillary and a non-corrupt process as you are. WE are not your enemy. Obama is.
Made my first contribution to MCcain 20.44
Fox just said that 4,000 protesters are outside the stadium where Obama is giving his speak.
#367 Rumor has it that McCain is only seeking one term. Hillary would be free to run in 2012 against the new Republican challenger.
firechief – god, thank you for that post. so important!!!
i second that motion!
to all delegates who stood your ground in the face of pressure, to all of those who resisted group think, to all of those who stood by your commitment to represent hundreds and in many cases thousands of voters honestly, thank you! please consider entering politics as a career. we need more with backbone and integrity like each of you!
I will do whatever it takes to get John Mccain elected and nobama defeated! This puma is ready for battle!
317 LibertyPuma – Since the very first day , we have always know that some of us would vote for MCCain , some would vote Indy , and some would stay home if this happened – and we Respected that . I didn’t let the Democratic leadership tell me how to vote , and I’m not about to let anyone else tell me . There are a LOT of things between now and November that we can do to keep that f*ing corrupt moron out of office and that is what I am committed to doing . There are many many other groups for MCcain , and thus far , this isn’t one of them . Until Murphy and the gals change our objectives , supporting John MCCain isn’t on the list of goals . NOBAMA doesn’t have to mean GO MCCain …
AOL Straw Poll has the numbers backwards! What else is gonna happen today?!
Well, I am spent for tonite. i need to go and recreate some energy for tomorrow. I’m gonna lie in bed and watch Big Dawg, then close it all down for the day. Tara……Oh well, tomorrow’s another day…sigh
See ya’ll on the morrow’s eve!!
I am so disappointed in Hillary a true leader would have let the voices of the people be heard.
My voice was silenced and my vote was stolen.
Yes I will cast my Ohio vote for McCain and encourage my friends and neighbors to do the same.
#370 Lorelai on 08.27.08 at 7:40 pm
Would you believe I actually thought life was fair until I was 30? LOL. Don’t know how I got away believing that for so long. I swear. I’m not kidding you. It was a rude awakening. Talk about existential crisis. LOL. Luckily I’m over that illusion and ready to deal with reality.
This “analyst” for the National Journal running on MSNBC is already spinning that there is a unity gap!
Her email is below her picture.
awalter@nationaljournal.com
If anyone want to take their frustration out, this looks like a good place to start. Let’s give her some 411, shall we???
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26424754/
Hillary, Just yesterday I shook your hand at the women count luncheon, and today I am writing to you to ask for a full refund of all monies donated to your campaign to run for President. You said you would not quit and I have a dying daughter without insurance who can use that money for medication. I used her medication money get you elected because I believed you would help others like her get medical coverage. You have proven to me party comes before honor. You caved – I am going on without you and without your damned beloved party. I am one of the women you have dissapointed. I expect a full refund. Let Obama or your beloved Democratic party pay your bills. I hope they take better care of you, than they have me.
Hell Hath No Fury Like The Scorn of 18 Million Scorned!!!!
I am ready to fight!
NoBama!
#330 LatinPuma ok I found it but where does it say group??? You said “There was a field to add group”
I was afraid it would come to this. Democracy is too important to let it go without a fight.
PUMAS stay united…if you want a taste of democracy
I knew someday it might come to this, so I talked to people that I know that support McCain. What I found out was good.
He is an honest man. The Keating 5 Democratic investigator declared that ” I’ve found McCain to be an honest man”.
Apparently alot of McCain supporters also feel that Obama has nothing to offer. They just don’t think it would be wise to put someone that is so indecisive in charge as a world leader. His mistakes could cause us untold damage.
Next, I talked to people that personally know senator McCain and they assured me that he is not a war monger and hates war! However he fears that if we don’t get out of IRAQ in the right way, we’ll have to go back in. He has a son in the war and doesn’t want to put him or any of our other troops at risk.
I met a man through a friend that actually works as a volunteer for McCain calling him. He said that his wife made him go to see McCain speak at a town hall meeting and to his own surprise, he told me, “I just fell in love with the guy.”
McCain is against earmarks, because as we can see with senator Obama if you read “The Obama Nation” and the “Case Against Obama” it is the earmarks the politicians bring home in return for the money that people like Rezko raise to help them get elected That is corrupting Washington, DC. McCain doesn’t take earmarks.
McCain believes that SPENDING IN WASHINGTON IS OUT OF CONTROL. He has made a serious committment to cut government wasteful spending to bring both parties back to fiscal responsibility.
McCain believes that AMERICANS NEED ALL FORMS OF ENERGY, that the energy demands by the world have risen to a level that it has become a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. He wants us OFF FOREIGN OIL while we implement all solutions to achieve TRUE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. We spend 700 billion per year and, thats almost $60 billion dollars per month that we could save…going to terrorists. The war is $10 billion per month, ENERGY is where the real savings are for America. McCains plan includes wind, solar, nuclear, hybrids, renewables, and future technologies.
This is some of what I know, I hope it helps you, if you’re struggling with McCain. My sister is a CPA and she says that Obama is bad for the economy.
Obama wants a 40 cents gas tax. A tax on the sale of your home as baby boomers go into retirement they face losing over 25% of the value of their homes. Obama wants a piece of our “biggest asset” our homes.
I can deal with voting for fiscal responsibility over impulse spending. Everything Obama has ever done, has failed. I just can’t afford $$$ to vote for him. Everything costs enough already.
The reason she had the roll call is for all to see what this country is all about and there are some stupid women in the leadership didn’t even fall in line be hind her 4,000 protesting I am going to every McCain rally within 200miles with my dem for Mccain and don’t forget thesse delegates are suck ups they go all the time they are the ones who work the polls well I am going to get involed before 2012 and when she send me an email saying something is coming up and she will be there so will I.
**** jbjd**** jbjd**** jbjd****
If you’re there:
Post #360
Didn’t jbjd say something that we have 24 hours after NO NAME is the nominee to send letters to our States regarding his name on the ballots …
If there’s something we need to do, would you please email all 3Ms to ask for an official prowl so that we can ALL do it correctly and effectively?
Please?
**** jbjd**** jbjd**** jbjd****
If you’re there:
Post #360
Didn’t jbjd say something that we have 24 hours after NO NAME is the nominee to send letters to our States regarding his name on the ballots …
If there’s something we need to do, would you please email all 3Ms to ask for an official prowl so that we can ALL do it correctly and effectively?
Please?
Hillgirl
You got it CHICAGO POLITICS. That’s what this is all about.
Can we make a bumper sticker? “We’ll Remember in November PUMAS for McCain
we should not cast a “protest vote”, we should cast a “useful vote”
our main aim is to do away with this guy
if we vote indepent, green , or not vote, we are helping him,
we can not play now to punish him, we have to play to get him out of the way
and
we will be to vote for mm
I never voted republican, but I will this time
MY BLOG SITE REVISED AS OF NOW:
http://womenstate.blogspot.com/
Much needed HUMOR: FOX after commercial will show a video of the McCain suggestions for the dress code to the Barrackopolis/Temple of Obama tomorrow.
RE#384 TEX
IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT YOURE TRYING TO JUSTIFY VOTING OBAMA.. MAYBE YOU WILL BE VOTING FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER?
YOURE WRONG..MCCAIN IS THE ONLY THING NOW THAT MEANS “NOBAMA”!!
Right now I could actually vote for John McCain without barfing. In fact, I think I will.
#398 storytellers
Completely with you!
I just joined the McCain blog as ‘MountainSong’ and told them I’m a PUMA PAC member and a crossover voter who would rather vote McCain than Obama and for them to expect a flood. But this is my #1 priority and my home.
#377 gordana
I agree with you completely.
Good night, everyone. I have another headache.
Can you get rid of all the %*&^* even if you leave the Democratic Party?
New title for RRL’s midnight messages
Used to be “Suspending, not ending”
“Suspending, and DNC was Pretending”…
don’t patronize us….Hillary, we’ll take it from here.
#366 pink puma on 08.27.08 at 7:40 pm JODY.. WHAT OTHER WAY IS THERE TO STOP OBAMA IN NOVEMBER OTHER THAN SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN..IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER PLEASE SHARE IT WITH US..
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We all own our own vote – that is what we are fighting for. I will vote for McCain, but I know some good PUMA’s will not. Everyone needs to do what feels best to them. There are many ways to fight BO and I am waiting to see what Murphy, Then Denver Group, etc come up with next.
Please lets not turn this into a McCain board, because we are a Pumapac who are fighting for our democratic rights as citizens.
Repost from Downstairs:
My Dear PUMAS,
I sat watching part of the “Roll Call” tonight. I am disgusted by all accounts. The Farce was truly a horrible nightmare. I watch as all my hard work to get my boyfriend a former republican on to the side of the Democrats, blow up in my face. His anger is deep and loud. He will never vote democrat again. This travesty has caused deep wounds that will resound for the rest of our lives. I myself will vote for John McCain in November, and after doing that I will no longer vote. I have truly seen, that my vote doesn’t count. I have tried talking to my family over the past 8 years to turn them around and exercise their votes, as they have not been avid voters. Well I can assure you that I will no longer try to persuade them to exercise their rights as Americans to vote.
I am so torn up by how Hillary ahs been treated since the beginning of this farce back in January. The lies and cheating by the “Change & Hope” candidate. The blatant backroom dealings and bullying by the ODNC. I no longer feel that we live in a true democracy, but a democracy in name only. 18 million voices means nothing to the ODNC. It means nothing to the Mainstream Media. This selection, sans election, is beyond my ability to find & form the right words. Pumas, you have my support in backing John McCain and no other. After that, I am done with it. Good Luck in all you do, and thank you for your hard work & dedication.
Sincerely,
TexasPony
i couldn’t unsubscribe either so i just kept spamming it and it finally disappeared. those b*st***s are so cocky and believe they are going to win in november. do you think the fix is in for the GE? are the state controllers obamabots?
Some one kill my spelling:(
Oh well you know what I am saying. Damn Tiny Spell!
I have to say, I am astonished at the blatant way the BO camp rigged this election. Maybe I’m still in shock because I’m just numb. On the plus side, now I know the people I’m dealing with. Now I see the party leaders for the corrupt individuals they are. I used to vote straight Democratic ticket down the line. I’m not doing that again. Bye Bye Democrats.
Ok I can breathe again,this was not unexpected. What was unexpected for me was how they made Hillary Rodham Clinton look with every vote.
I am more determined then ever on defeating
Dean, Brazille, Polosie, Obama, and any one else involved in this sham.
I don’t know who I will vote for in November, but to day I have become a political activist,who will not shut my mouth and sit idly by while my country is ripped apart by traitors to every thing I hold dear.
I will never again tell my children they have to vote because today I saw my vote trampled under their feet.
I AM NOW AN INDEPENDENT PUMA-MY VOTE WILL HAVE TO BE WON,I WILL NOT GIVE IT AWAY IN HASTE AND I WILL NOT SHUT MY MOUTH ABOUT THE WRONGS PERPETRATED AGAINST ME!
I AM MAD AS HELL AND I AM A PUMA COMING AFTER ALL OF YOU…………..ODNC LOOK OUT.
we need to stay togeather . I am so wanting a payback. When is primary in Kerry and Pelosi’s states. They need to be first and they need to know after it was for there Chicago style take down. They treated her so bad than made it be her to give it to them.She is working for 12.
401 pink puma – I will never vote for XO -you should n’t make assumptions . You don’t know me .
If anyone would like to get to know Senator McCain and what he stands for, he has an intresting site.
I joined the blog portion to assist in his campaign.
Will remain with Pumapac and remain a Democrat.
Georgia can now vote in PE and GE for whoever they want. Cool…..
http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx
It’s been said that we’re becoming a third world nation. I guess we really are, since we hold elections just like them…
The boy wonder has no patience and may show up at the convention for a ‘cameo’ appearance tonight. (Gag!)
I have been sending daily messages to Howard Dean et al. I just sent this one to them. I hope that it doesn’t offend anyone.
HOWARD DEAN, DONNA BRAZILE, NANCY PELOSI,
This is the last time you will hear from me. I have been a staunch Democrat for most of my 82 years, since parading around the house as a small child saying, VOTE FOR LANDON AND LAND ON THE STREET. But my Democrat days are now over because you have adopted the corrupt Chicago Politics and have thrown “under the bus” the most qualified Democrat possible. Probably because all 3 of you and the failed presidential candidates are simply jealous.
You will now have to face the ire of all the people who are supporters of Senator Clinton who are aware of Obama’s pitiful and even criminal background.
Be assured that your partying days are almost over.
Enjoy them while you can. But I hope that if you have any conscience left that it keeps you from sleeping at night.
#381 andy85719, right now the disappointment I feel makes it hard for me to even think about Hillary running again in 2012. I feel she let us down and folded when the going got tough! She could have let the roll call play out to show unity with her supporters instead she gave us all over to the hated one. I’m done with Hillary!
I hate this. I am in Europe now and saw my home state – FL vote for BO. All of the CNN commentators suck. I hate Crowley, Borgier and Blitzer – so biased.
So no minute miracles. How much more could Hillary endure? What else wil ‘they’ make her do – give him the keys to the white house in person? As soon as I am back in Florida, I must change my party affiliation to Independent. The only hope now is maybe Mr. Berg’s lawsuit and BO’s defeat in November. I am so mad and full of rage. Can’t type anymore.
pink puma – yesterday and today, your repeated posts about voting mc cain as the only way to go, including your most recent one screaming in caps is feeling very pushy. we all know the choices we have in november and we’ll each make our personal decisions between now and then. for those who are clear now they’re supporting mc cain and who want to state it on the blog, great. no need to repeatedly state it over and over again in a tone that’s starting to feel bullying to anyone who isn’t signing up today. i know we’re all emotional and i’ve hesitated posting this, but it’s creating a vibe that’s off putting and is getting hard to just scroll over and ignore.
Thanks to all the PUMA members in Denver who waged the good fight. Democracy may have been silenced in Denver but it will not be silenced in November. NOBAMA should find out when the next election date for Mayor of Chicago will be held because after November that will be the only election that he may have a chance of winning.
Does anyone know who Michael Wagner is and from what state? He was being interviewed I think Fox before the so called ~roll call and he said America 1st Democrate 2nd! He is/was a delegate.
Democracy has officially died. I guess I was waiting for the outcome.
I am voting republican for the first time in 30 years and tonight I went on the John McCain website and gave a donation. I wasn’t able to bring myself to donate before but tonight.
“When you hear the dogs – KEEP RUNNING!”
Hillary has had to play the supporting role a number of times in her life. She knows how to make the best of a bad situation, we should learn to do that too. She, and the American people deserve better than this, but in life, you play the had that is dealt.
We, as PUMAs, are now well schooled in how to fight a political fight. Let us not waste that knowledge. We have a big job to do in reforming the democratic party. When I say reform, I mean the old must go, and the new must be what the old proffessed to be but isn’t. That is our mission.
Once Obama is defeated, Hillary will become the leader of the Democratic party. That must be our goal. We need to support her and nurture all her initatives to do what is right. We cannot let ourselves or Hillary down.
We know how to fight, and fight we must.
Keeping the faith that we can do this.
#399 Amarissa on 08.27.08 at 7:47 pm
We will fight this.
I just checked your blogspot.
You don’t waste any time, do you? I really liked what I saw when the page opened. He’s my man, from here on out.
what happen today is the prostitution of politics
Hey, everyone lets all give a Huge Thank YOU to Murphy…Without her and Puma we would not be the force that we are today…We are truly a force to reckoned with….We will prevail in November…NOBAMA FOREVER!!!
What time is Bill on?
If you are not sure about McCain.
Cynthia McKinney
http://pumaalliance.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/cynthia-mckinney-for-president/
Obama is The Antichrist
One more thing before I head off to the grocery store. I have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach about all this. The last time someone this inexperienced was chosen by the Democrats the election was rigged to elect him (see history books on JFK) and then bad things happened after his election. I’m crossing myself (Catholics know what that is). God help us.
I’ll check in tomorrow to see what our plan of action will be.
Have a good evening everyone,
Lara08
(((((lorelai))))) are you home yet?
Hillary’s spirit will inspire me for the rest of my life.
Under such DNC fascist pressure, she can still be so strong, can you imagine how hard it is? Her eyes tell me:”Be strong; Patience Will Lead You To A Victory”
I think it’s time we start drafting “Articles of Confederation” against the DNC and the crimes of King Dean. If they want to destroy democracy, then this means war! It is only “common sense” that we defend one of the very principles that our Country and our government was founded upon. George Washington warned us against corruption and unchecked power in political parties; we now see the crippling results firsthand.
“So this is how democracy dies… with thunderous applause.”
- Senator Padme Amidala (Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith)
Donate to a candidate now? Maybe to a few of my state or local candidates.
Otherwise, all my money’s going towards those causes that are championed by Hillary and Bill, including his foundation.
We need to change this process.
But something else many of us can do is to also channel our energy into fixing our world. These clowns in the democratic party will never be able to do that.
I’m not sticking around to watch them chase their tails.
We have work to do — people to feed and educate and house and get medicine to. So to Dean and Obama and Pelosi and Brazile, I say this: Thanks but no thanks — we’ll take it from here.
418 LivingGrace – I hope Bill hauls off and belts him if he shows up during Bill’s 10 minutes…
#381 andy85719 everybody says that about McCain not running in 2012 but I have a question for everyone here when BO loses in November who is to say he isn’t going to run again in 2012 ????
#419
that’s a good one. i emailed brazile and told her to put me on her “list”. think i will email her again just in case she forgot.
I think Barack will be head of the Democratic Party while he is the nominee. Once he loses, the title of top Democrat goes back to Pres Clinton? How nice. What great satisfaction.
Don’t waste your money on Hillary and Bill. They are sellouts, right? McCain needs all of our money.
I own my vote. Susan B. Anthony once said “No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her,” Country first ——- experience matter.
#430 Alice Rodham Puma I think around 9 tonite
I, too, am disappointed in Hillary. As it stands now, I really don’t think that she will have any political future as POTUS. Even if she runs in 2012, this party has become so controlling and corrupt that they once again will stab her in the back. Unless, there was some kind of a huge deal made (such as a Supreme Court appointment if BO were to win), she will probably remain a NY senator.
Considering all of her strengths, I was really hoping that she would “buck’ this party that stabbed her in the back and inflicted many more stabs and wounds. I was truly hoping that she would put her constituents and the will of the people before this so-called party unity. I was hoping that she would be the maverick.
No one can make Hillary do anything. I’m guessing she did this to have him pay off her debt. I would have told him to keep his money and stood buy my 18 million supporters.
As far as I’m concerned Hillary threw me under the bus!
Pink Puma I’m with you a vote for McCain is the best way to send a message to the DNC and Co.
#421, victorpuma
I am in europe too
& turned off CNN
I COULD NOT TAKE IT
#384 TexasTigress
You will have 2 choices in November BO or McCain. Not voting for McCain is like handing it over to BO on a silver platter! Staying home, writing in…these things are only hurting America. Americans still need to stop BO from corrupting this Nation.
Each state that Hillary won in the primary should be targeted for anti-O campaign from PUMAs. A complete list of the delegates from each state should be compared with the roll call that is taking place right now. Those states should suffer the penalty of their votes. That means if their governor is up for re-election, their congressmen or women, their sentators, then PUMAs should be actively supporting other candidates that can feasibly be elected. Pay back is possible, but it has to be organized, feasible, payable, and have short term and long term goals. PUMA has done marvelously in its almost three months, but its growing and will need (I hate to say the words) consultants and experts in political research and application to help us move in to the next step,defeating O in November and also BALANCING Congress so that proper checks and balances can be put in place. So, allow MM&M to settle back in to their dens and reorganize. The goals haven’t changed, but how we go about obtaining those goals may need revamping and upgrading. Are we in it for the long haul? You bet. So let out the emotion, be mad, angry, teary eyed and disappointed. From those strong emotions come energy to make the next “POSITIVE” move. Let’s go PUMAs. Strike out with prowess and furvor. YES WE CAN! and YES WE WILL!
My dear, dear Pumas,
I just want to tell you how much I feel and share your indignation and anger, your frustration and deep disappointment.
I have just watched this farce on CNN and in reality, I could not watch it until the end : I was so hurt to see our great Hillary being ridiculed this way by those people who call themselves Democrats.
I would like to tell you this Party is not worth your votes anymore, even in the future. Why would the dissidents not form a new party ? You know in France, it has happened several times, when members of a party were disappointed with the choices made by their leaders. Sometimes it failed ; but sometimes it was a success…
Remember what Hillary said yesterday, at the beginning of her speech : “I am proud to be a true democrat.” It implies that in her own party which is still called Democratic, true Democrats are far from being a majority. I think it was a clear criticism addressed to the DNC, because she knew what was going to happen to her tonight. They have been totally disrespectful to her, they have scorned her historical candidacy, and her voters.
That is the reason why you, who voted for her, have the legitimate right to protest…
Dear Murphy, Maryland, Mama,et. al AND ALL PUMAS:
I want you to know that I have watched you for two and a half months do miraculous things, fight like soldiers and keep the faith like saints.
We have all watched each other come here somewhat discouraged and rallied to rise again. We have lived with one another, day-by-day, waved our patriotism, hopes and dreams no matter what. Some of us have even shown our rears (like me) and we have all lived through it.
This is not the END. The beginnings of something magnificent are always born out of some tragedy or injustice. Those new beginnings are rarely without setbacks.
If there was ever a group that had the potential to RISE to great accomplishments and make change that is REAL, it is this group.
Murphy, I have not always agreed with you, but you are a remarkable woman of courage. You have guided PUMApac onto the national stage of fighting for what is right, fair and good for all Americans – to be passionate about our Democracy, our vote and to make sure that our voices are heard.
PUMAS, we have all just graduated from “Basic Training Camp”. Many of us have also “found our voices” for the first time and learned how important they can be in ensuring that the final “role call” reflects the will of the people!
If there was ever a time to make sure that everything this group stands for will grow and flourish and reach out to those who also need to find their voice – it is now!
This group has laid the foundation – and now building the framework begins.
If we hang in here, many, many people will come knocking on the door. New donors will also come to PumaPac’s aid over the next 2 months – and all because you helped Murphy and crew get the word out that they are not alone.
You all should be so proud! Tears often come before the dawn of something wonderful.
The “death of a vision” always occurs before its resurrection into something that cannot be defeated.
Keep the faith, now more than ever.
Each and everyone of you here have earned my utmost respect.
#437 slyt2 -he probably will run, but it’s not uncommon to have a one term president (Ford, Carter, Bush I) and it probably would be easier to defeat him in 4 years due to his age…that’s probably HC’s strategy. But of course anything can happen…
416
You have to declare in the primary; you don’t in the general
Pink Puma-
Yeah, what Middle Age Woman said on post #408, except that I don’t know who I’m going to vote for.
Maryland said to remain calm and I think the “3M”s have done a great job with Puma Pac so far and I trust their judgement. Look at how much we’ve done so far when “they” said we couldn’t. I just think we need to keep up the momentum.
There is so much emotion, the blog is going so fast, I’m exhausted and it’s hard for me to sort out the posts that talk about action. I’m not trying to step on anyone’s right to free speech.
#390 Pondarama
I truly feel for you. I have a hefty monthly medical bill that is fortunately covered by my company plan.
Right now I am in complete shock over all of this, but I cannot imagine that Hillary would let herself go all the way to the convention to be humiliated by the DNC and this neophyte?!
halligan – i like your thinking. i also think it will be important for us to stay on top of what the electoral map is looking like since that’s what it’s going to come down to.
I didn’t watch the roll call after California passed out from the smell of corruption.
I’m doing this again, because we need to hit the ground “running.”
Each state that Hillary won in the primary should be targeted for anti-O campaign from PUMAs. A complete list of the delegates from each state should be compared with the roll call that is taking place right now. Those states should suffer the penalty of their votes. That means if their governor is up for re-election, their congressmen or women, their sentators, then PUMAs should be actively supporting other candidates that can feasibly be elected. Pay back is possible, but it has to be organized, feasible, payable, and have short term and long term goals. PUMA has done marvelously in its almost three months, but its growing and will need (I hate to say the words) consultants and experts in political research and application to help us move in to the next step,defeating O in November and also BALANCING Congress so that proper checks and balances can be put in place. So, allow MM&M to settle back in to their dens and reorganize. The goals haven’t changed, but how we go about obtaining those goals may need revamping and upgrading. Are we in it for the long haul? You bet. So let out the emotion, be mad, angry, teary eyed and disappointed. From those strong emotions come energy to make the next “POSITIVE” move. Let’s go PUMAs. Strike out with prowess and furvor. YES WE CAN! and YES WE WILL!
4Hillary McCain is public financing. I will not give money to the republician party.I have little to spare but if PUMA need money to fight and work for a just Dem. system , Iam here.
#438 slyt2 on 08.27.08 at 7:55 pm #381 andy85719 everybody says that about McCain not running in 2012 but I have a question for everyone here when BO loses in November who is to say he isn’t going to run again in 2012 ????
I believe one slap in his face will be enough. He’s not as tough as us PUMA’s, who are constantly being slapped by the DNC
Talking heads are saying that the whole Greek revival thing may backfire on Obama – several dems have said that too – precious already is perceived as being arrogant and this just confirms it
LOL – Republicans has issued a dress code for the big party – it’s hilarious -
Both Obama and McCain are horror shows. A third party is needed in the interim this year so we could flex our muscle with the democratic party.
#367 Tucsonpuma
Interesting theory, but she knew when she released her delegates that he would win. If she had not done that, she would have gotten a respectable number of votes, even if she did lose. No need to release the delegates that I can see. They either blackmailed her or promised her something. Either way she let her supporters down.
Smile… She is SO good.
Guys and Gals, has she not whipped us into a frenzy? Fury that has no bounds? Hillary has done something that no other political candidate in history has EVER done. She has awoken the sleeping giant…the silent majority is silent no more!!
For all you sweet disappointed Pumas, Hillary knew she could not win this, has known it for some time.(Do any of you remember that she has a website for her 2012 presidential run already?) If she had fought for what is rightfully hers, they would have demonized her and finally destroyed her for good.
Instead, she has assured both her election in 2012 and Obama’s defeat. She already knows We WILL take it from here, and is counting on it.
What an intellect, I have never actually been in awe of anyone before.
Onward Pumas…we fight!!
wontbackdown – thank you for that post. ditto every word!!! i couldn’t have said it better and lord knows if i would have had any luck actually trying to post it!
UNLESS HE IS BEHIND BARS
the clan would not let anyone else run in 4 yrs , but him
hahahahaha Glenn Beck just played the Utube video of the Russian National anthem about BO. Really not that funny!
It’s sad that we are now left with out a candidate to support. But we have many champions in our midst, not the least of whom is our founder.
She has not betrayed nor abandoned us.
#451 Rabblerouser i’m guess you misunderstood my question what I was saying to anyone (thank you for answering) I know McCain will only be president for 4 years due to age(more then likely) my question is IF Obama doesn’t get elected in 2008 what will stop him from running again in 2012 against Hillary again if she runs. How do we know he (BO) won’t try again in 4 years when he fails this time?
Well, my state has never voted red but there is a first time for everything – I will not campaign for McCain but I will campaign against precious –
I realize that that is splitting hairs but mine is a protest vote…………………………………
I donated my $10.44 to McCain. It felt good. Maybe the Republicans will actually care about the voters.
If you are considering a vote for McCain, I suggest emailing him and making your voice and concerns heard loud and clear.
http://www.johnmccain.com/
Check out the unbiased site below to learn more about his record.
http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm
FYI, I hope this doesn’t upset anyone, this is NOT a plug for his support. I just want people to be informed voters before they decide.
I know it would never happen, but wouldn’t it be wild if McCain asked Hillary to be his VP and she said yes. Lol
Love, Peace, Justice for PUMA!
The day after the anniversary of the passing of the 19th amendment giving women the right to vote…we may as well not have the right because our voices were silenced by a bunch of corrupt crooks congregating in Denver. And as icing on the cake, we see a woman strong armed into stepping aside for a cocky man. Unacceptable. I hear the dogs, and I am going to keep running.
At this point I’m not yet enthused enough about McCain to decide to put much energy into campaigning for him (the way I did for Hillary, which was an all-out involvement!)…
But I will take great pleasure in working to defeat BO and in casting my vote for McCain in November, primarily as a protest vote.
Next to BO I feel he’s the better choice, so it’s really more than just a protest vote!
Someone suggested something like this downstairs… but maybe this is a great time for those of us who will vote for McCain (even if it’s just a “protest vote”) to donate at least $5 to the McCain campaign as a way to empower the forces that will help defeat BO !!!
halligan – i think alice rodham puma volunteered to complile these numbers. her post is somewhere on this thread.
So bummed. I hope the General Election won’t be fixed also.
I’m signing off for awhile now – was on last night till 2:30 and back on first thing this morning -
need a break – won’t be watching any more of the convention – done
will check back tomorrow for instructions…………….
Pvt Susiepuma reporting for duty…………………
I joined the McCain site and asked to be invited to a McCain party… watching the republicans nominate him… I wrote I was a Hillary supporter and will fight as a member of PUMAPac to do everything I can to stop Obama!!!
I had a shabby day, today. Training for a volunteer job that does have slots open to do the volunteering. Taking a trip in a few weeks and flying on an airplane, something that I haven’t done for 15 years and I HATE FLYING. Will its been teary, too. But am I gonna give up. No, I’ll still train for the volunteer job if I have to call every day for the next two weeks. And yes, I’ll fly and throw up all over the plane just to please my husband because he wants to fly. AND I WILL PUMAIZE every chance I get from now until “the pigs fly” and the Democrat Party gets a thorough cleaning out.
I don’t think BO will every run, again, should he not win this election. With all the re-thinking the “press” (I guess we still call them that :rolleyes:) says they are doing about tomorrow night, I don’t think he could take the humiliation.
My thoughts. Maybe I’m wrong.
#466 slyt2…Because we are going to expose him for what he truly is to the American people!! It is his just reward.
I for one have firmly made up my mind to vote libertarian. Bob Barr is the most ardent champion of the constitution of the united states among the three candidates. Just my two cents, but unlike others, I support everyones right to choose how to vote against Obama. I’m not going to pressure people to vote a certain way like the DNC pressured its delegates. If you apply that pressure, you are no better than the ones who trampled HRC.
447 fineartistinoil – Thank you for that info . I have been a democratic activist my whole adult life – I have worked the poles , I have marched in Detroit , Chicago , Indianapolis , Kentucky and Tennessee. I am pretty sure I am familiar with my choices . Until November I will not change my focus from keeping XO off the ballot . Maybe tomorrow PUMAS will not have the audacity to think they should tell each other how to vote . I’m outta here for the night . PEACE
#330 slyt2:
Did you see the two columns with 1. “Coalition” 2. “How can you help”–underneath the last option in the second column “Organize my peer Group field”_____
JODY – I have to compliment you – one of the few that pays attention to action items that could make a difference in the outcome in the general election if I read the post correctly – wasn’t that why we were sending out those letters to the AG’s to have a full roll call and make everything above and honest – guess we will never know if it was above and honest though.
If nothing else just to make it more difficult for him to be on every States ballot – think that would be a great way to let loose of the tension that has built up for everyone – again thank you for paying attention.
I curious of BILL would say tonight,
I have to to bed
it is 2 in the morning for me
#472 Anna
Thanks for the reply.
Alice Rodham Puma – Thanks for taking the task on.
You might want to consider requesting a refund on any contributions you have made to the DNC.
#444 LuckSeven, I do believe Hillary knows the only way to save the true democratic party is to destroy the one that exist today…And, McCain will prevail in Nov. And, Hillary will run for 2012…All of the Coward Deans, Pelooosie, Brazilla’s will be gone…Then a real Democratic Party will form…#449 Delphinefromfrance…True Democrat….Thank YOU you are SOOOOOOOOOOOORight!!!
During the primaries, when Obama was cheating in the caucuses, we hoped and prayed that democracy would prevail and our votes would count–but they didn’t. The process was rigged.
When the rules committee met in May, we hoped and prayed that democracy would prevail and the rules would be followed–but they weren’t. The process was rigged.
When the roll call vote occurred today, we hoped and prayed that democracy would prevail and the rules would be followed–but they weren’t. The process was rigged.
When November rolls around, we will hope and pray that democracy will prevail, our votes will count, and McCain will be elected. –Are we fooling ourselves?? Will the process again be rigged???
231 Maryland PUMA
COUNT ME IN!! The fight is now really beginning.
We’re dealing with not only corruption in the party, but a public that has been misled by media. It takes time to change the minds that will change the system.
Ohh .. FOX just said Hillary is new Susan B. Anthony! Anthony fought for voting rights that did not happen in her own lifetime. It was another generation, the “2nd Wave” that finally got the legal power to vote.
We can take inspiration from the Suffragists! They never gave up the fight for their just cause. And they won.
http://www.unbrokencircles.com
Team McCain member!
I am a lifelong Democrat I have always voted democrat even though I’ve said if the better candidate was on the other side I would vote that way. Well here we have it the best candidate isn’t running. The second best is a republican I believe he is the only chance this country has. Please try to Imagine a world with each of the candidates president and then follow your conscience. Hillary cannot win in 12 after 4 yrs of BO = it will be shameful to be a democrat
MAMA, MURPHY, MARYLAND
WE ARE HERE, WE ARE STEADY, WE ARE READY TO WORK!
There is something seriously wrong with you people!
I’m liking McCain better and better. I just visited his website and he is having a field day with Obama’s “Temple” being built for his coronation tomorrow night. Here is a quote:
“At the appointed hour on the fourth day of the Democratic National Convention, the faithful will gather at the knee of the One to hear him accept the nomination. And that will be the moment that our children and their children will remember as the moment the seas began to fall, and the planet began to heal itself. Let it be written, let it be done.”
AMARISSA
GREAT SITE. YOU WILL NOT LOSE ANOTHER COUNTRY!
Rablerouser
There is going to be a “delay” in Bill’s message.If he say something that Obama does not approve it will not pass.
Wake up! US is not a democracy anymore.
With 911 people render their rights. Scary tactics work!
They really got a slap down on her her eyes were red I think she had been crying
one other thing we can all be doing now is push for the integrity of the vote ==
paper trails to electronic machines, etc.
don’t forget about that.
yikes………
sheesh, we have work to do!!!
wontbackdown~~ That’s what I’ve been trying to say, but you did it most eloquently.
At the moment we have no reason to think the GE wont be rigged just like everything else has been. But we DO have time to institute some type of security or check and balance to insure it IS a fair vote and election.
this is dangeous
this guy could win
they are going to do other type of dirty stuff to win the generals
Pat Buchanan just had the best assessment on the roll call today and how inauthentic it was and what a sham of stagecraft it was.
#480 TexasTigress…
Since you are not going to be here for the night, would you please leave me the “E”?
#351 Middle age female on 08.27.08 at 7:37 pm
Some of us PUMAs believe the best way to defeat Obama is to ELECT John McCain.
You are free to suggest an alternative, but in my view McCain is our ally NOT our enemy.
a Puma is an animal that when it sees its quarry it goes after it and pounces for the kill..it doesnt hesitate or debate whether to attack..
a pussy cat on the other hand likes to play around with the mouse for fun and then lets it go or decides to finish it off..
perhaps I am too PUMA like
if I am I apologize
4Hillary: My money is going to PUMA, not to McCain. Remember, the Republicans have cheated on elections as well. Both parties need reformed. I will be voting Libertarian, Green, Constitution Party, Republican all the way down the ticket–just so long as I don’t vote for a single Democrat who gave into this farce.
I AM THAT DOG…and I will chase down EVERY SINGLE TRAITOR MISOGYNIST DEMOCRAT and PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE…
PUMAS we must UNITE and FIGHT like HELL. THE ONC and BO must be DEFEATED. I am tired of crying and I think Hillary did the WRONG THING. I KNOW the DNC IS DEAD and rightfully so, so now we must save America, Democracy, and ourselves.
MURPHY, please give us our new marching orders. I think MCCain’s victory will be BO’s LOSS and Hillary’s redemption (esp. in light of 2012). I know this, but I need to hear from you what PUMA is allowed to do.
FOR ME and MINE, we will VOTE MCCAIN and dance all night when we TROUNCE the ONC!!
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR, never gonna VOTE NOBAMA!!
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GOT ME !!!!!
This guy wants to charge ten dollars for gas ried
Another thing~~~ Obama has MSM in their pocket. What is McCain and the Repuplican Party going to do about that?
I guess BO’s ego has now been filled with so much helium that he is where he wants to be, up in the stratroshpher with the ancient Greek Gods, whom he will try to join tomorrow.
How much is this filling of his ego costing?
Delphinefromfrance…thank you. You are a true Puma!
Hillary may know that she has one last chance – the releasing by someone the info about BO not being eligible to run – if proven true. We have a lot of time between now and Nov to force BO to step down. We have a lot of work to do – so stay focused!!!
WE WILL REMEMBER DENVER IN NOVEMBER!!!
Is this still America? I have never seen anything like this farce.
http://www.vote-usa.org/?gclid=CNu_5J-er5UCFSCcnAodn3c8kg
#508 LivingGrace on 08.27.08 at 8:12 pm Another thing~~~ Obama has MSM in their pocket. What is McCain and the Repuplican Party going to do about that?
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They have 527′s with deep pockets.
rew#504 pa dem
may i ask you a simple question please?
do you think that by voting green,libertarian or constitutional that will prevent obama from becoming president?
how bad do you really want to see the DNC and Obama scoundrels fail?
505 jenniforhillary~~ Even tho I laugh when I read the fervor in some of your posts, know that I love you and adore you til the wheels fall off.
#511 Middle age female:
ha ha I love that: Remember Denver!!
i was just thinking about the hillary delegates – they had to get to denver. so they paid out hard earned dollars for gas to drive (maybe motels along the way), an airplane ticket (lost luggage?),train ticket, bus, etc. then in denver itself – transportation, lodging, food, souvenirs, etc. and they didn’t get to voice their vote on the convention floor. i’m feeling sorrier for them right now then i am for myself. i have all of you – who do they have?
I think everyone can vote for anyone they want as long as it is not OB!!!!
me thinks there are troll about
what a shame
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If I vote Libertarian, that is one less democrat for Obama. That is how voting Libertarian helps defeat Obama.
#472 Anna7000
I haven’t volunteered for anything, I have only just seen the post. I don’t mind helping, but I wouldn’t even know where to begin with it.
#506 TexasTigress:
Damned, I knew you’d been around the political arena – but I had no idea! Re-group and come back and I’ll damned sure be listening a lot closer to your suggestions – once I get my head out of that “E”!
If you vote a third party it will take away votes from McCain like Nader did to Gore
Team McCain for me as well! Let me know how I can help in any way. I am livid and tired.
If we do decide to donate $5 each we should do all have a tag line to define who we are. That way the McCain campaign knows it’s coming from us and maybe the media will pick up on it.
This is my first time to blog on here. I, like most of you, am sick at heart today after the travesty that we watched our party visit on our votes. I do believe that Hillary did what she had to do to maintain some control over her ability to be effective in the future. She did everything she could so that she will not be blamed when B.O. goes down in November.
Saying that, I am ready to move on to support McCain. But I will not do it without some qualifications. He wants our votes and he needs our votes to win against Obama. But until he is elected and even afterwards, we can make our voice heard by writing our thoughts to him, for instance, He is against abortion, but I believe we can at least push him to support birth control. He is against taxing the wealthy, but hopefully we can keep him from making the death tax permanent.
I for one will look closely at down ticket dems in my state. If they betrayed my vote, then it is time for them to go; but we must be careful that we don’t get a worse person in their place. It is easy for me to vote McCain over Obama because B.O. is so out of his depth in wanting this job that McCain is the ONLY logical choice. More later, I must go feed my dogs and cats.
Is there a fast way to scroll to the bottom of a long thread? I use the button on the side and it takes forever:-(
slyt if bo runs in 12 we will be ready and not as polotical correct
#458 sandtraps on 08.27.08 at 8:00 pm
I think the McCain campaign went to court and got permission to void their limitation to only public financing. I heard something about that somewhere. I would check it out if you’re concerned. Regardless, until the Republican Convention OFFICIALLY declares McCain the R. nominee, any funds donated to his campaign go to him AND NOT THE PARTY.
Rodham in Flag
I have been a PUMA since June 5, yet until very recently only lurked because I don’t need negativity in my life. Focussing on action helps me ignore the sniping that goes on between people who supposedly share the same goals. That kind of behavior makes us look bad (and our blog was shown on national TV this week) and is food for trolls. Enough said.
only hill you have a wheel?
Will someone please explain why his bogus and doctored birth certificate is not a federal offense? John McCain was sued to show his authentic birth certificate – why not BO?
Also, perhaps the McCain camp will be going after this and also the Bidens involvement in the Larry Sinclair affair.
AA guy on Fox tv saying Hillary’s sppech was rousing but not enough for Obama and going on about Clintons not liking Obama, balh, blah, blah. This is going to be her reward from the a**es. Mark my words.
#511 Middle Age Female: Thanks for reminding me of that! You’re right! There are two months to force Obama out – and with McCain’s camp helping us do it. LOL – They reportedly have some things yet to reveal about The One’s background – and they are working hard on the Ayers scandal as we speak.
#521 Maryland PUMA
Agreed. I’m in…PUMA!
Voting green,libertarian or constitutional will not stop Obama. In fact they would have the effect of votes FOR him. The only way to stop him, at this point in the road, is to vote for his strongest opposition, which is McCain.
Remember Denver in November!!!!!
sounds like the only candidate doing this is McCain
(taken from the PUMAPac “about” section)
4. To support the efforts of those political figures who have allied themselves with Hillary Clinton and who have demonstrated commitment to our first three goals
re#521 maryland
of course we all agree with you on that point.. we all have our individual choices… all I am asking is a simple question.. am i breaking some rule by asking a question?
question:how bad do PUMAS want to see the dnc and obama campaign fail in ther attempt to seize illegally and immorally the highest office in the land?
They are listening PUMAs! I just got this email. It just arrived. Notice the time and date. I left it on the email for you to see. She told the DNC and the entire nation in her speech that she was the only rightful and creditable Democratic Nominee. Go back and listen to the speech. I know you probably have it memorized. She listed her accomplishments and her positions….the very ones that got her the votes that she earned from all of us. That is when everyone stood up and cheered and the camera went to MO and the look of evil with arm crossed arrogance yelled out to OUR AMERICA. This is OUR COUNTRY—NOT HERS, NOT HIS, and Definitely NOT worthy of DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP anointed today. Also, those that wrote, financed, and shoved this Lie and Phony down our throats will pay as well. We must UNITE and FOCUS once again on the mission. NOBAMA/NOBIDEN/NEVER in November. We are now in a different fight—a fight to save this Country!
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What Hillary Didn’t SayWednesday, August 27, 2008 6:32 PM
From: “Rick Davis, McCain Campaign Manager” Add sender to Contacts
Last night, you may have watched Senator Hillary Clinton’s speech at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, praising Senator Barack Obama. But what you didn’t hear is her acclaim for John McCain- a man she knows is prepared to lead as our next president
Senator Clinton, a long-time admirer of John McCain, has repeatedly said she believes Senator Obama is not ready to for the presidency because he lacks the experience necessary to lead. She said,”In this election we need a nominee who can pass the Commander in Chief test. … Senator McCain will bring a time of experience to the campaign. I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002. I think that is a significant difference.”
John McCain is the candidate ready to lead our country as president but he won’t win without your support. Unlike Senator Obama, John McCain will keep his pledge to the American people and participate in the presidential public funding system. So beginning September 1st, our campaign is limited in the amount of money we can spend, while Senator Obama will spend whatever he wants to defeat us. Your immediate donation is needed to win this campaign.
As president, John McCain will always put his country first above all else. He has done so his entire life. Everyone agrees- Republicans and Democrats alike- that he has the experience and judgment to serve as our next Commander in Chief. Now we need to elect him on November 4th. Will you do your part today? Will you follow this link to make a financial contribution of $25, $50, $100, $250, $500, $1,000 or more before our fundraising deadline on August 31st? Thank you.
Sincerely,
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I like this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEoy98EScJY
So, it is up to Hillary to get us in line. I doubt Barack would be expected to give his minions a Kool-Aid antidote if Hillary were the nominee. Yet, Hillary will be the scapegoat when he loses. We Pumas drank no Kool-Aid.
I do not like knowing that another Republican will be president. I get some comfort knowing that Democrats control Congress.
Well, today is a sad day for me, when I saw Hillary conceding her delegates to NoName, I was shocked! I thought she said that everyone was going to be able to vote, I guess not, she was pushed to do that, I saw it on her face, she was sad after she did it, shaking hands, but not happy, I felt it. I can see that a lot you are registering with McCain, I did that long time ago, you must do that with Lieberman’s group, it is call “Citizens for McCain”, Independents and Democrats for McCain.
Well everyone I am going to take a break for a few days unless something earth shattering happens. I am worn out and drained. This has been a long road. Be kind to everyone.
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#532 Luckyseven: As I understand it, if it can be proven in court that Obama faked the BC (and three independent document experts say he did) or that he was not born in Hawaii (and that looks doubtful) – he could well eventually be charged with a federal crime.
#431 4Hillary
I think we would all agree that Obama is evil but to use the term in your post discredits the validity of our message. I think it will get the point across more effectively if we stick to real attributes. As Rick Warren asked at Saddleback, “Does evil exist?” Yes… it exists in the Obama’s and to quote McCain … we need to defeat it.
Nobama fully believes he will win and is extremely overconfident. The Obots will blame the Clintons when he loses instead of their messiah no matter how much Hillary works to elect his unqualified butt.
I sent the Ayers/Nobama commercial to some of my Independent friends and they were appalled. One is so disgusted that she is voting McCain now. The other one is shocked and is doing some more research, which I fully support.
Food for thought: If you study how Fidel Castro and Che Guevara risen into power; they both started as community organizers, then when people realized Fidel’s real intensions he took control of the media and the truth was lost in the shadows of the communist power. The Black Liberation Theology movement and Marxists were part of Che Guevara’s too. Scary,,,
#402 Headclunker
Congrats! Progress Headclunker.
I notice some of you are upset with Hillary, please don’t. Hillary went beyond what a candidate should do, she doesn’t care even if the media labeled her anything, she’s doing something RIGHT . She is showing US “something” and she knows ONLY us, WE THE PEOPLE can set it right. I can bet 10 bucks right now, very few of you can guess what is that “something” I am talking about.
Hillary put her neck for all of us regardless of political affiliation. She have just become MY HERO!
Ladies and gentlemen, Hillary have just shown you the REAL FACE OF CORRUPTION right ON TV. It was a BLATANT, right in the OPEN subverting WILL OF THE PEOPLE. Hillary has TESTICULAR FORTITUDE, she loves America more than she love herself! God bless her!
To a lot of you this is alien, to me, isn’t. I’ve seen this before.
Please delete this post
431 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 7:54 pm Obama is The Antichrist
Well thank you Jody – just know that I appreciate all your efforts – especially the last couple of days.
I see that Maryland snatched up that troll before we had a chance to swat it around for awhile. What A Shame!LOL
the sad part of this that with the exception of FOX
the media is responsible for this treason, for not reporting what they know and making out of this filthy circus a ciderella fairy tale >>><BETRAYING AMERICANS
461 BigCat Lover
You are right, she did let let us down, but for some reason I have this feeling there is something going on that we do not know about. wish i was a fly on the wall kind of a thing. It is hard for me to think of her as being blackmailed, she is too far above that, I kind of have a feeling it has to with the Dem party itself. She has always been very protective of the party itseif, even as far back as Arkansas. I will keep lurking but have to log off due to my security thing.
TAKE CARE ALL PUMA’S
Murphy,
It was wonderful to meet you and your Mom. You both are amazing people and I will do whatever it takes to defeat Obama.
Nobama not now not ever!
Tigress………… are you ok?
#553 Asian4Hillary,
I love your post, and I agree with you, Hillary have to do what is politicaly correct!
re#551 latin…
add obama to that list too
Maryland -
a big THANK YOU to YOU, to MURPHY, and to MAMA. and that is in no particular order.
#547 michelle47: YOU GO!!! That was way cool!
obama supporter on fox…. says Hillary did not do enough. grrrrr
The BO bullies and thugs probably think they’ve won. In reality they’ve lost b/c BO can’t deliver…….just ask the “under the bus” dwellers.
457 halligan
Good plan.
” A rigged convention” which clearly proves that there is no democracy or honesty in the leadership of the DNC and their selected candidate….
I felt that Senator Clinton was further humiliated to-night, being compelled to go along with a rigged convention and
a “fake”result, where the real voting had already taken place by arrangement earlier in the day to obtain the desired result.
The few votes thrown to Senator Clinton in some states and none awarded to Senator Clinton in others was most insulting and against all natural justice to a Senator
who had won most votes in the Presidential race.
Florida and Mi where Obama would not agree to a revote, look how they voted….and distributed their votes…We are not stupid this did not happen naturally or by accident……
They have treated Hillary Clinton in the worst possible
way.
Shame on Obama, Shame on Pelosi, Shame on the Chairman of the DNC.
There will be no unity after events like this take place..
I hope there will be mass migration in voting from the democratic party to support the republicans defeat
this usurper Obama and his conspirators in the DNC in November.
As an observer, I would never have believed that what has happened could have happened to a nation like the USA.
Shane, Ireland
Murphy: So proud of you girl! I mean it.
Hillary gave us the signal
Did you see it? Go to:
tinyurl.com/6ozrob
to read all about it!!!!
I’m ready! ARE YOU?
#396 jody in florida
Unfortunately, jbjd he is no longer with us. He was ousted by the admin. This makes me very sad.
i hope all this media that is drunk about obimbo
the audiences fall to the limit of bankruptsy
Tigress… P.S. I was being serious about your experience in this process! I am a novice at all of this.
Michelle47, is there a message in the dollar donation you made ($20.44). I ask this because if this is some kind of symbolic gesture, than I want to be consitent with my donation amount as well..
I will also put mine in honor of Hillary.
A BIG virtual hug to all PUMAS in Denver!!!!!!!!!
Liberty tigress went to bed
I want to thank all our Pumas in Denver. They have put a good fight. Murphy,Maryland PUMA,and mama Puma,you have been great! We are waiting for you to plan the next moves,to recover Democracy.
Having paper trail of the votes is a must. And getting rid of the super delegates bs too. Every vote must count.
Murphy,
How long are you guys staying in Denver?
#530 jody in florida
I agree completely! I do not feel the need to justify my credintials to anyone, I prefer to keep my information to myself.
#568 Shane on 08.27.08 at 8:28 pm
I wouldn’t call it “rigged convention” – I call it as is…….C O R R U P T C O N V E N T I O N.
RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN SUBVERTING WILL OF THE PEOPLE WITHOUT SHAME!
551 LatinPuma Yippers!! All you have to do is to “google” Obama and Che Guevara – food for thought!!!
Murphy: we should start our own party
#553 Asian4Hillary
Amen.
Asian4Hillary — I would like to say that there are a large number of members who’s posts I always take the time to read because they are always brilliant, intelligent, well thought out posts. You are definitely among that group. And some of your posts today made me cry. I read what you wrote about fighting for democracy and risking your life. It brought tears to my eyes because I share the same emotions even though I don’t share the same experiences.
Thank you for your posts. I hope I will have the pleasure of reading many more.
#410
Yes, I think the dem’s are rigging this GE, at least here in Fl. MHO– They’re going to have a repeat of 2000 except they will be the winners. Yesterday we got a preview of our new voting machines. No touch screens, no punch cards, just a peice of paper and magic marker. After you “fill in the circle” with your choice, they scan it, goes into a data base and then you have the peice of paper for a paper trail. The dem’s voted for a paper trail and all of this was inside the amendment that was passed with Fl getting penalized for moving the Presidental primary early. BTW, Wexler was all behind this. You know the Senator that doesn’t live in Fl??? One of Obama’s supporter’s??
This may be long, so bare with me.
First of all, I have never been this hurt of felt this betrayed in my life, not when I found out my ex was cheating, not the day I filed for divorce and not even the day I found out my mother has a terminal illness. I am more angry than I have ever been on my life!!!!!!
All Puma’s have a decision to make, but that decision does not have to be immediate. I just hope that we can find a way to keep everyone together as we find our way through this mine field.
Some of us will be working to make sure McCain is elected, but some will not be able to do that. They are still Puma’s and we still love them.
They still own their vote and we have to respect them for that. I have been thinking about this for several days now, but we might need to have two separate blogs. All still Puma and all focused on the things that were done to us in this election. And all of us focused on making sure the 61 is not elected President.
I do not want to loose PUMA’s, but it will happen if we don’t follow strict rules or have separate blogs.
How does everyone else feel about this. I wish we could all stay together, but it will be hard, it will take self control and strong moderation.
Tell me what your thoughts are on this. AND PLEASE BE KIND TO EACH OTHER!
BTW, those delegates and superdelegates will be on their way home soon. Read them the RIOT ACT, tell them EXACTLY what you feel and what you think of them!
#527 OnlyHillary…I use the “End” button on the keyboard to immediately take me to the latest posting. The “Home” button takes me back to the top.
Heard Obot on O’Reilly say earlier that Hillary didn’t do enough and that this is no longer the Clinton party. What are these idiots’ problem? They should respect everything that Hillary has done for the Dems and they definitely need to respect the 2 term President Clinton. I have never seen such vile disrespect and hate in one party in my life.
TexasTigress…
email me if you can at lotts1948 at geemail.com
us Texans have to stick together as well.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!!!
pink puma: I actually like McCain and will likely vote for him (and have said so on many occasions, not just this evening). I was referring to the many other parties for downticket races.
But I’m not going to tell people to vote a certain way. I’m going to give them lots of legitimate reasons to vote against *61. How a person chooses to vote against *61 is truly up to them.
Maryland puma….. thanks for keeping the crowd of trolls out right now, don’t think most of us could handle the troll crap tonight………(lol… but as pissed as some of us are tonight might be kinda fun to release them one by one to let some fustration out…..come on Let the kitty’s play???!!!!……) ……just kidding….kinda
Wont
Tigress and I are both former union members and our Mom was the president of the local union here. It led us to have a lot of involvement in politics..
Tigress waaaayyy more than myself because I bounce around too much, but I did get to do a Womens rights march in Rome.
But Tigress does have a lot of experience and if she ever doesn’t know an answer she knows where to get it.
Maryland Puma: 143 trolls???!!! They must be worried. Thanks for all your hard work and thanks to Murphy and Mama Puma.
I’m watching Bill Clinton then calling it a night. I’ll be ready to keep working for the cause tomorrow.
#571mcr
may I ask , why?
it seems that he /she was helping us
When we donated to Hillary we always ended with 44 the 44th president maybe if we do it it will get out to the media but it is only if you want to like 5.44
OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST.
WELCOME TO COMMUNISM. CONTROL OF EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIFE. CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL IS THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE IS THE OPPOSITE OF FREEDOM. GOD IS FREEDOM IS LOVE IS GOD. CONTROL IS THE OPPOSITE OF GOD.
WE MUST FIGHT FOR FREEDOM AND OPPOSE COMMUNISM.
OBAMA MOTHER WAS COMMUNIST. OBAMA WAS RAISED BY FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS AS A COMMUNIST IN HAWAII. THE BLACK PEOPLE WERE MORE LIKELY TO BE COMMUNIST IN A WHITE SOCIETY BEFORE CIVIL RIGHTS CAME IN. OBAMA WAS COMMUNIST BY AGE 10 TO 12.
I BELIEVE HE IS MOSTLY SUPPORTED BY FOREIGN MONEY. HE GETS TONS OF FOREIGN MONEY THAT IS WHY HE DOES NOT WANT PUBLIC MONEY. HE IS AWASH IN MONEY. SOMEONE WANTS CONTROL OF OUR COUNTRY AND OBAMA IS THE AGENT OF FOREIGN CONTROL.
LOOK HOW OBAMA SUPPORTS RUSSIA IN GEORGIA. HE SAYS AMERICA IS WRONG IN GEORGIA. THE WAY HE SAYS IT IS THAT HE SAYS RUSSIA MOVING INTO GEORGIA IS THE SAME AS AMERICA MOVING INTO IRAQ. THAT IS SUPPORT FOR RUSSIA ALTHOUGH OFFICIALLY HE WILL CLAIM HE OPPOSES RUSSIA BUT HIS ACTIONS SAY OTERWISE.
THERE IS NO QUESTION HE IS COMMUNIST. HE MAY NOT BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY BUT DEEP DOWN IN HIS HEART. HIS DEEP BELIEF IS COMMUNIST.
HE MUST BE STOPPED. i WILL NEVER GIVE UP OPPOSING COMMUNISM IN AMERICA. i WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT FREEDOM BECAUSE FREEDOM IS GOD IS LOVE.
Asian for Hillary worth repeating
I notice some of you are upset with Hillary, please don’t. Hillary went beyond what a candidate should do, she doesn’t care even if the media labeled her anything, she’s doing something RIGHT . She is showing US “something” and she knows ONLY us, WE THE PEOPLE can set it right. I can bet 10 bucks right now, very few of you can guess what is that “something” I am talking about.
Hillary put her neck for all of us regardless of political affiliation. She have just become MY HERO!
Ladies and gentlemen, Hillary have just shown you the REAL FACE OF CORRUPTION right ON TV. It was a BLATANT, right in the OPEN subverting WILL OF THE PEOPLE. Hillary has TESTICULAR FORTITUDE, she loves America more than she love herself! God bless her!
To a lot of you this is alien, to me, isn’t. I’ve seen this before.
#494 hillary2008
Thank you so much! I love you guys and admire everything you are doing! I will always be around to help protect our great nation!
thanks carrie………….how are you holding up?
I just contacted the McCain camp to point out the anger amongst Hillary supporters AFTER this afternoon’s circus, and that should McCain pick a woman VP, he can beat Obama hands down.
#595 storytellers
Please e-mail me at prowlmcr@gmail.com.
I hope BILL does not get hurt by this crush to his 2 beloved women
he has a heart condition
MsMavotes, I am not sure of the significance of the 44 cents, I have seen pumas use this amount in their donations before.
#571 mcr
You mean she. hmmmmmmmmm…. She had said that there was a very short deadline in getting the nominee off of the states’ ballots–something like 24-48 hours I think, but don’t quote me. Darn! She knew the laws and the unofficial AG prowl worked, so I know that we would have a shot. She said that we didn’t need to have any expertise in the law….
Liberty
I am hanging in and watching, trying to see if there is still a place for me in Puma, because like Tigress I will not vote for McCain
Hillary owes the Obots nothing and should not have to ‘hand over’ her supporters to BO on a silver platter. BO should have to earn those himself.
I too fear for a fair GE. Am I being paranoid?
On BO not being ready nor qualified:
McCain has been pointing out that both Hillary and Biden said that BO is not ready to be president.
Defenders of BO criticize McCain for using Hillary’s and Biden’s critical words against BO during the Primaries.
They make the point that Romney (who might be McCain’s VP), and other Rep primaries-candidates also said negative things about McCain… and that this is just what’s done in competitive races.
Romney was interviewed on TV last night and answered this charge.
He said that he may have criticized some things about McCain, and may have pointed out differences between them, but that he never questioned McCain’s readiness or qualification to be president!
What Hillary and Biden did is something very different from just the typical “criticizing-of-the-opponent.” They questioned the core, most fundamental quality—the qualification to be president. They said BO is not prepared nor qualified to be president of the United States.
And, in last night’s speech, Hillary still didn’t say that BO is ready and qualified to be president. She did not correct her previous statements about BO’s non-preparedness!
NO PLEASE, DON’T LET TROLLS IN!!!
I am in no mood to waste time on these people. We need to be safe within our own kind!
well… maybe if we can’t do anything about the circus outcome. Perhaps a whole slew of scathing letters to someone…let me think …the media? they might laugh it off …how about a parent company of a media outlet that relies on us PUMA’s for our hard earned dollars. Just thinking outloud
Well, this Texan is not submitting to any other type of party. I already know where I’m going. I am a PUMA and I will help out and stay here. Second, I will support the only candidate that can beat Obama – not up for debate!! So don’t say that “we” Texans have to stick together! I’m an American first, my country comes first, my faith, liberty, democracy means everything to me FIRST!!
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LOL Jody…rocky horror fan?
I am ready to get to work.
Will vote McCain.
I like getting e-mail from DNC – I reply saying I will vote McCain or make a disparaging remark about BO.
is jbjd really banned?
I agree Murphy. I have always liked the Dixie Chicks “I’m Not Ready To Make Nice”. Now it is going to be my theme song.
I should have known something was rotten when bo “allowed” the role call. I just can’t believe the delegates from our states gave our votes away. They were not theirs to give.
Bo allowed that role call to embarrass Hillary even more.
Hillary looked pale and ready to cry when they escorted her to the mike to give the nomination to that creep..
What a great woman she is. Hillary is a shinning example for all women, young and old.
We will fight the battle for her now. I will do everything in my power to see that John McCain wins this election.
Then the evil two-some can go back under the rock they came from..
I am as sad and angry as I have ever been. First, I hope it snows 4ft or so on bo’s big day — that fake.
I will watch Bill’s speech tonight; then I never want to watch a convention again in my life. They are nothing but a joke..
I’m going to take a few days to let my anger subside. I am also awaiting some medical news that may make me sadder than ever.
Everybody hug someone. Then prepare for the biggest fight of our lives.
Peace
What a Shame
Barry will lose
What a Shame
McCain will win
What a Shame
Democracy in shambles
What a Shame
My reply to Howard Dean asking for unity “shown” at the convention.
Dear Mr. Dean, I resigned from the Democratic Party in April, 2008. At that time, I could no longer support a political party that does not stand up for ALL of its members. It use to be a party of inclusion, but the primary season showed just the opposite. The cruelty toward women was unconscionable and the party did nothing to battle such behavior. In fact, the other campaign (Obama) and the party encouraged the behavior. That was my breaking point with the Democratic Party. The the RBC make such a mockery of the delegate process in May behind closed doors (unconstitutional in every way). They effectively “selected” a candidate before the voters were completely heard. Even after Senator Clinton had won the majority of the votes in the primaries, the Party still went back to old backroom politics and changed the outcome. Now the convention has heightened the image of a Party that bullies delegates and misuses rules or completely overturns them to allow for the selection of a candidate that is so inexperienced and a possible detriment to this country. This has all been done in the name change. Change in this case is NOT the best possible avenue especially when its done with the goals being power and greed. The Party has no conscious and is a poor example of what this country is loosing daily, DEMOCRACY. In summary, I will not support the Obama nomination and I will continue to fight against any Democratic supporter who contributed in any way to the “selection” of this man. ____ PUMA in Washington State.
Since some of you are posting your contributions to McCain’s campaign, why don’t you dedicate some of them to the trolls in the dungeon? (Why are they here if life is so great in the Land of OBliss?…. OBlivion? LOL)
Sorry Maryland. Couldn’t help myself. Besides, we could use a little bit of levity in here.
Carrie…. what should we do?
Amrissa………… we will not let the trolls get you. CLaws are out tonight
Karl Rove said if O loses, she has no blood on her jands. Hillary will be the nominee next time. Not bad for Karl Rove.
What time is Bill Clinton’s speech scheduled to be?
Why aren’t the trolls just listed?
Liberty I have no idea..
I can only support Puma in helping to make sure this never happens again and hope we can bring out the crimes of Obama.
why was jbjd ousted?
#585 redraz9 on 08.27.08 at 8:31 pm
I agree Redraz that I don’t want to lose any PUMAs and different PUMAs may have different views on how they want to ensure Obama is defeated. I wish we could continue on one blog. But that would only be possible if we can truly be tolerant and respectful of each individual PUMAs choice of how to accomplish that.
The thing we all share is disgust with the Democratic Party and this sham of a primary and convention. Regardless of who we’re going to vote for in November, or even whether we’re going to vote, we all share the same disgust and rage with the Democratic Party.
We’ve accomplished a lot together over the past weeks. I truly hope we can all stay together and fight on together, accepting and respecting each other’s convictions and solutions.
We either have to reform the Democratic Party (an option that I think would be like trying to push a boulder up a mountain) or create the conditions to allow a NEW PARTY to grow out of the ruins of this failed and morally impoverished current Democratic Party.
44 cents = 44th president
Bill is up soon, Hillary already in stadium
I know one of our PUMA missions is to restore the Democratic Party. But aren’t we still Nobama? I know I will not vote for him.
I sent $100 to McCain …….send what you can…. his deadline is soon…… and he’ll get screwed for playing fair with Obama if we don’t help him….. Hillary is our Alamo!
Dunno but Nader is suddenly looking mighty good, too.
#583 mzebest on 08.27.08 at 8:31 pm
I should be the one to say THANK YOU. I want to make a difference in your life, to each and everyone of you. I want all of you to see what lies ahead if no action is taken to correct our corrupt democratic process. I can only hope by sharing my experience, it will awaken all of you. PUMAPAC is a good grassroots movement, we now have an organization that was created out of NECESSITY. We have a huge task ahead of us, Denver Convention is just a dress rehearsal. Don’t be afraid to stand up and speak out, when you don’t, time will come they will silence you completely. God bless.
#593 Caracal Carrie: Thanks for the info on Tigress and you. I don’t want to vote for McCain, but I am so desparate to keep BO out of office, right now I don’t know what else to do.
I guess we all have some time to decide. Whatever I do, I do not want it to be a vote for BO.
repost
#585 redraz9
Some of us will be working to make sure McCain is elected, but some will not be able to do that. They are still Puma’s and we still love them.
They still own their vote and we have to respect them for that.
are you saying that the people who do not go over to mccain are not up to snuff? but they are still pumas so you will still love them
re#612JD
thanks for the info..
I will be both donating to the mccain campaign as well as buying a hat, teeshirt and yard signs..
my mind is clear and not confused now after hillary out of the picture this election there is only one way to beat Obama in november and that is by supporting mccain..
is that simple enough?
Visited the McCain site, I can live with him as Pres for 4 years. Unless the law suit to prove Obama isn’t qualified under the constitution goes somewhere.
I think as soon as he gets in office, it will come out he’s not, and Pelosi will pass a Senate resolution making him a natural born citizen. If she knows about it now, and says nothing, that’s treason, to me.
I had a young person tell me that college kids send in absentee ballots, and then also go to polls near their schools, present student ID and vote. Anyone know if this is possible? All the youngsters Obama is signing up, if they count for 2 votes, this might be a problem.
#624 Luckyseven
Why aren’t the trolls just listed?
——————————————–
Because that would take the fun out of it! PUMAs are hunters. GRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! (that’s the lack of sleep talking)
I want to thank murphy and all the PUMAs. You have changed my life and I hope to be part of the next leg of the journey.
#626 Ario
#615 tennaseepuma
Please e-mail me at prowlmcr@gmail.com and I can explain.
FOR ALL YOU TROLLS….I DEDICATE THIS AND ALL OF MY UPCOMING DONATIONS TO MCCAIN….TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!
I DID NOT LIKE KOOL-AID AS A KID AND I SURE AS HELL DON’T LIKE IT NOW.
551 LatinPuma ~~~Unfortunately, most Americans have been too sheltered and too comfortable for too long to recognize these things.NOW, now that it’s almost too late, they are waking up to the notion that perhaps their free country isn’t so free anymore.
#611- 1gypsy4mc
“Well, this Texan is not submitting to any other type of party. I already know where I’m going. I am a PUMA and I will help out and stay here. Second, I will support the only candidate that can beat Obama – not up for debate!! So don’t say that “we” Texans have to stick together! I’m an American first, my country comes first, my faith, liberty, democracy means everything to me FIRST!!”
EXCUSE ME??? ARE you talking to me??? My comment was directed to one person, not to all Texans.. although I am open to talk to anyone from Puma, not just Texans, for sure…
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say and in the spirit of trying to get along, I won’t assume you were being negative towards me personally.
I just had a friend in Canada email me and say, “I can’t believe I saw that happen in the USA.”
I want to slap the shit out of nancy! mmmmmmmm that felt good.
it’s time to take back the party. show your support.
http://hilljackers.com/
oops…….. hope baby puma is not looking at my potty mouth.
Well, I sent $10.44 to the GOP and $25.44 to McCain…more on Friday. I want Obama destryoed. I never thought I wopuld donate $ to the GOP but whatever…I know watch FOX. The DNC is a disgrace….scr** them all!
Guns Gays blacks whites abortion oil bla bla bla
These parties have been holding voters hostage for too long we need a uprising!
ya know I got some math for the Democrats.
McCain = Reagan
Add that up Obama.
#636
I questioned this yesterday when I voted. All the volunteers looked at me like I was CRAZY!
Why is that freak of nature Al Sharpton (yes al, we remeber Tawana Brawley) threatening the Clintons? Now I’m pissed.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/al-sharpton-has.html
Another email I received:
An email from Scotland to their brethren in the States…a point to ponder despite your political affiliation:
‘We, in Scotland, cannot figure out why people are even botherin’ to hold an election in the United States. On one side, ye have a pants-wearing lawyer, married to a lawyer who cannot keep his pants on, who just lost a long and heated primary against a lawyer who goes to the wrong church who is married to yet another lawyer who doesn’t even like the country her husband wants to run.
Now…On the other side, you have a nice, old war hero whose name starts with the appropriate Mc terminology married to a good looking younger woman who owns a beer distributorship.
What in Lord’s name are ye lads thinkin’ over there in the colonies??> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:54:01 -0700>
Asian4Hillary
I too appreciate your perspective here. I have to be honest and say I really don’t understand what you are saying about Hillary.
I’ve been a staunch supporter for over a decade. I’ve met her and worked on events for her. I love Hillary.
For the life of me, I just don’t buy into the line “she’s doing what she has to do”. I think Hillary had a choice. We don’t know exactly what her choices were and we might not ever understand the “whys” of her decision.
I for one think she should have taken this all the way to the convention and put up a fight for an open democratic roll call vote.
She did not HAVE to participate in the sham. I hope I understand this some day. Right now I’m heartbroken and really angry.
Please delete this post
431 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 7:54 pm Obama is The Antichrist
LilyMaid
“NOBAMA” …. yes we are, and no we won’t.
Ario – are you sure that jbjd has been banned – she had the answer for us on what to do next after the nomination to keep him off the States ballots – did she break one of the three rules??
#652 JDinPGH
LMAO
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!!!
W. H. O. is Obama is the question!!!!!
No Bill clinton signs tonight…just flags
I will donate to McCain tomorrow and am even thinking of campaigning for him here in Massachusetts. Does anyone know if they have any Hillary Clinton vote for McCain t shirts online anywhere?
#652
what were we thinking?
hahaha
Caracal Carrie
Just hang tight. Emotions are high now. Today’s actions by the DNC are very hard to swallow.
NOBO makes you a member here.
Many will vote McCain (myself included). But we all respect your right not to – REALLY WE DO!!!
If you can, just skim on by the “I’m voting McCain” posts for now. And be sure not to leave. You have been avid in your voice against BO. That is all that is required.
I don’t want us Pumas to seem in disarray. I bet Murphy et all are going to confab after Bill speaks. May you guys in Denver get heavenly guidance. God Bless You.
re#651 NP4
hill and bill can kiss the black vote goodbye forever.. if obama loses in november they will come out with their pitchforks and go after the clintons scapegoating them for their big failure..
in my opinion hillary should have fought to the bitter end..shes never going to get that black vote again..
#585 redraz9 on 08.27.08 at 8:31 pm
I understand your thoughts. I, too, am giving myself time to come to terms with this upset (I am a bit of a sad walking zombie at this time) , and want to keep the mccain bombardment to a minimum. When I am ready, I will research his platforms more, and I will watch the next couple of months play themselves out.
I cannot forget what a mess the reps have put us in, and I do not trust them.
I do know that tonight, I have 2 choices: mccain and not vote for President (something I cannot believe I am stating). One point that hasn’t changed for me, as I have watched this game play out, is that for me, 0 is not a choice.
I am proud to be a puma, for our community has brought the shenanigans to light. I will continue to support puma and look forward to it supporting me.
I can’t wait to hear Bill
Hi Puma Pals,
Thanks to all who are our eyes and ears on the ground in Denver!
What a farcical convention nevertheless Hillary gave the crooks in the DNC enough rope to hang themselves. I am very grateful to her for that.
What is about to happen to Obama’s campaign will be embarrassing. It will set all records for humiliating political defeats.
I am proud to be a PUMA.
on the prowl
Madazhel
As I’ve said, I think we have at least one move remaining: pressure Obama to resign in the next months favor of a real Democrat. The DNC might still keep Hillary out, but it would save people the trauma of supporting a Republican.
If it comes down to Obama vs McCain in Nov, I won’t have much trouble voting for McCain if my state looks close. Otherwise I’ll probably vote Green as a clearer message. At the moment I think a 57-state defeat is the most important thing. A big popular vote defeat nationwide is perhaps less important.
But it’s not correct to say that staying home or voting third party ‘is a vote for Obama’. Two stay homes equal one vote for McCain. Half a vote for McCain is not a vote for Obama. It’s still hurting Obama and may in some states send a clearer message. — It’s nothing to stress out about this early , and certainly nothing to quarrel about….. (((( all pumas ))))
#655 Dances…just Dances
I would just love to see McCain have a woman for VP — Obama would be history. IMHO.
Talk about CHANGE! Republicans being the first to have a woman VP — it could really pull the rug from under the Dems. I’m not sure the base would approve though.
Sigh…just another “hope” of mine.
#658 Puget Sound Island Girl: Love that one!
W.H.O.
ha ha
they are playing
Chain of fools how accurate
#182 TexasTigress
Thank you, we had a similar story, say hi to them for me! I hope they are doing well. It was very sad and that is why we have to protect our very dear USA from clones of those corrupted systems!
HAAAAAAAAAA!! Nobama is a pinhead on O’Reilly tonight.
Corrected Repost
Well, this Texan is not submitting to any other type of party. I already know where I’m going. I am a PUMA and I will help out and stay here. Second, I will support the only candidate that can beat Obama – not up for debate!! I’m an American first, my country comes first, my faith, liberty, democracy means everything to me FIRST!!
#652 JDinPGH on 08.27.08 at 8:52 pm
Thanks so much for posting that email you received from Scotland, JD. That was so funny. A very welcome stroke of levity. I certainly needed it.
I have to say, he sure has a point.
Caracal Carrie
I didn’t see your original post but saw what sharpclaws wrote. Sounds like you need a McCain filter. I got mine at Walmart. They’re on sale this week.
Caracal Carrie
I didn’t see your original post but saw what sharpclaws wrote. Sounds like you need a McCain filter. I got mine at Walmart. They’re on sale this week.
I just pray there is a heck of a storm in Denver tomorrow night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If there was any “unity” questions within the Repubs, I think the actions of my former Democratic Party and their process of today has become the NEW SUPERGLUE for John McCain.
WHY CAN’T HILLARY BE MCCAIN’S VP?
They have kicked her in the teeth anyway and will never do a thing for her as a Party.
The Republicans need her to balance out their party!
If Hillary didn’t make that move, she would have been blackballed from the DNC and even more humiliated by the news media. Hillary could handle the pressure, but not many of her party members could. They would all pressure her to bow out completely as a disgrace to the party. You can bet Hillary cried tonight when she got off to herself, and felt all alone,,,,,,and then she looked at the Rocky Mts….and saw the PUMA’s. She was never alone. Its like the footprints in the sand.
One night I dreamed of walking along the shores of different lands.
I could tell that You were with me by the footprints in the sand.
As I gazed upon the heavens, I saw pages of my life.
It was then I realized that You remained there by my side.
When the clouds began to gather and the rains came falling down,
I looked to only find one set of footprints on the ground.
I said, “Lord, why did You leave me in the troubled times of life?
I believed that You would always walk beside me day and night.” (Then I heard:)
“My precious child, I’d never leave you.
I have carved you on the hollow of My hand.
It’s then I carried you in My arms,
When you see one set of footprints in the sand”
Dear Lord, will You be with me as I travel through the years?
Will You be there in the struggles? Will You wipe away the tears?
As my eyes turn toward the ocean and the shores of distant lands,
I’m still thinking of the single set of footprints in the sand. (I heard Him say:)
“My precious child, I’d never leave you.
I have carved you on the hollow of My hand.
It’s then I carried you in My arms,
When you see one set of footprints in the sand.”
Will I hear the angels singing, as my life comes to an end.
Oh Lord, I long to see You. Will You be there once again?
My eyes turn toward the heavens, along the path of foreign lands,
Once more, I’m thinking of the set of footprints in the sand. (Jesus said:)
“My precious child, I’d never leave you.
See your name carved on the hollow of My hand.
I’m here to carry you to your home.
You will see one set of footprints in the san
#601 MacAllen
Not only would a woman VP help McCain cream O-fraud-a, but another thing that would help involves his stance on abortion (one of the issues that’s holding me back and making me more likely to vote third-party).
I know asking him to go all Pro-Choice is never going to happen, but if he could at least give us a reassurance that he wont attempt to actively circumvent Roe vs Wade it would be a major bonus and BHO wouldn’t stand a chance!
President Bill Clinton now
#634 Blue Blue Gal
Good Lord…..NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would never say that, because that is not how I feel.
I just see people who can’t support McCain feeling like they are being pressured to do it and that’s not fair.
Our whole process has been to insure every ones vote is counted and every voice is heard.
I know some are going to push hard to have McCain elected, I am one of them. I just don’t want others to feel pressured to join us.
I am not doing very good at putting it in to words…..I’m sorry.
BILL IS ON NOW
MO is already making faces.
Someone slap MO with that pathetic face she is giving our bill!
McCain on His Ability to Stand Strong Against Adversity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNYoF5r4EM&feature=related
“Yesterday’s Gone?” as a song for Bill Clinton . . .
Who chose that one??
I NOTICED THAT TOO.
My man Bubba is up!! Gotta love him! Lol
THAT WAS BILL’S SONG DURING HIS PRES CAMPAIGN
teleprompter must have told MO to smile
That ovation speaks volumes!!!!
ARe you watching this???? They are raising the roof for BILL!!!
BILL’S ON!!! I LOVE THAT MAN!!!!
BILL’S GETTING TESTY
We’re still cubs here in our den.. but we will rise up and roar.
Obama loses the general election. Hillary becomes head of the Democratic party.
Integrity, Soundness and legality are restored.
Enjoy your spots while you still have em..
Fight on PUMA’s.
We have an election to lose.
684 redraz9
thanks, that’s what i needed to hear.
he’s killing me
Let the demolition begin:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080828/pl_politico/20080&printer=1;_ylt=AjzNny4draL4FmKGGEHiIjrCw5R4
Not lookin’ good for Senator Biden on the heels of his introduction as the vp pick.
#680 wontbackdown
I have wondered that myself. Being an Independent, I guess I don’t fully understand the concept of party loyalty.
Seems to me it should always be “What’s best for the country”. Call me crazy.
WHERE IS LAWSUIT? WHAT IS THE NEWS?
#687 bythelake on 08.27.08 at 9:04 pm
” Someone slap MO with that pathetic face she is giving our bill!”
I just did. 2 down 1 to go.
Here’s our Bill!
Did you see MO with her half hearted clap and smirk until she realized the camera was on her?
OMG Hillary is going to cry! I can’t stand it.
Sorry Bill!!
MO SUCKS!
Michelle is just downright mean you think?geeezzzzz
What 18 mill – me!
“Makes two of us” printed as “Makes to a loss” on my closed caption. wierd.
NOT ME
Heard Bill’s opening sentence and that was all I needed to hear. “click” went the remote.
Seeing Hillary in the stands just broke my heart. That’s not where she should have been tonight.
Most historic primary run and she goes down, as a woman no less, with no accurate record of her achievement. They didn’t even allow an honest first ballot. I will NEVER get over this one!
Please, this is far from for over!
I think we still need to protest the fraud in the caucuses in court.
In addition, we still do not know what will come up with Berg’s trial.
I thought the states that passed did that as a protest. They were sanding a message to the media. I believe the secretary was shocked when IL passed. What do you think?
18 mill
But Bill – 0 said that he doesn’t need us….
Sorry Bill, love you and Hillary but…
Nobama/Nobiden/November!
THE DNC IS A JOKE
I Love you Bill….can’t vote for Obama!!
MO …looks worried????
NOBAMA/NOBIDEN/NOVEMBER
WHO PAID BILL????????? WHY?????
poor Hill
This is making me sick!
Bill caved
Something must be wrong with my ears!
I feel betrayed.
#702 sharpclaws, that is exactly the way it should be.
Starkadder13
Not at all advocating for McCain, but to let you know, he has said that it is not his plan to try to overturn roe v. wade because of all the resulting health issues for women who would still have them…BTW Roe v. Wade is not now, and never was in any danger, don’t let the BO folks play you on this.
Isn’t it a bit presumptous that our 18 million will vote Obama?? What??
We have to lose this election so that Hillary can run 2012 and pick up from the disaster McCain will leave us. I hope the supreme court justices can hold out that long so that she’ll be able to appoint a bunch of pro choice jurists.
He’s making a good argument AGAINST risking the future with Obama. LOL. Clearly, Obama is not UP for the challenges of the future. Obama can succeed in doing NONE of what Bill says needs to be done. Despite the chorus of BOT nonsense.
BUT,…if you have two choices, candidate X and candidate Y,…..
Biden is a weak choice. Certainly DID NOT HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK.
LOL.
Wow the repubs are right, he talks good bull$hit!
redraz9 – catching up on posts. saw yours proposing seperate blogs and wisely anticipating the need to be extra kind, respectful and considerate of one another. who knows how this movement will reform itself. but, another option to seperate blogs, assuming PUMApac continues on, might be that we form different committees who are tasked with different things to focus on and ways to focus on them. It could be a way of organizing ourselves for this next phase, irrespective of any divisions regarding who may or may not be voting for mc cain.
TV off. Can’t deal with one more word!
I am dumbfounded.
check out Chelsea’s expression
LOVE THIS from above!
Fight on PUMA’s.
We have an election to lose.
NOBAMA/NOBIDEN/NOVEMBER/NEVER!
Caracal Carrie
Please don’t leave. You are going to be needed for the next steps we will take.
Yesterday I was listening to a young lady at fox steaming video,and she was explaining how Obama is “working”the young voters.It was interesting and we can do the same thing. This is done thru the Internet mostly. Your ability to make videos can focus in what moves the young voters. I’m sure you can come up with some exiting videos that would make them rumble. Please don’t leave.
He is endorsing BO more than Hillary did last night! grrrrrrr
no no no no no obama never never never
i feel as though i’m in the twilight zone. is that really bill clinton up there saying this stuff?
bill is fudging alot of facts about *61
Bill and Hillary are playing the role of good politicians for the Democratic party. Really is a shame..but what else can they do right now????
#727 Queen81 :
It says quite clearly on McCain’s website that he plans to overturn Roe vs. Wade by appointing conservative judges to the supreme court.
Hillary and Chelsea don’t look happy at all
# 734 – thanks! first laugh i’ve had all day! good one! that’s a keeper!
Please everyone stay and stay strong!
sorry Bill but he** NO BHO
Again, I had to turn off the TV. I would have rather seen him refuse to speak than give in to this.
I have turned the channel couldn’t take anymore. this is a joke..oh well I own my vote…not Hillary, not Bill, and definitely not DONC.
Bill has caved!
pumetta – i couldn’t bear to see hillary in the crowd. the sense of insult and shock has been coming fast and furious all day such that i can barely catch my breath. surreal.
(((((PUMAs))))) I’m so sorry for your sakes to see this. I’m sitting here crying, and I’m not even a Dem.
Remember, now it’s about saving the integrity of our political process in spite of the DNC.
Bill is putting on an act PUMA’s. If you look at Hillary’s expression (which to me seemed uncomfortable and looked as if she just wanted to get out of there) it clearly tells me she is NOT happy about what happened today.
After Obama and his cronies played the race care on Bill, do you really think he wants him to win. After the way Obama and his cronies have treated the Clinton’s do you really think he wants Obama to win? This is a show and nothing more. We have to remember that Bill Clinton was the last Democrat President and he is expected to give speeches such as this. Nothing more, nothing less.
SORRY BILL, I REALLY DO ADMIRE YOU, BUT 18 MILLION……
MAKE THAT 17,999,999………..
I WISH TO BE EXCUSED……
Jeff
I don’t care what his website says, I heard it come out of his mouth.
Listen everyone Roe v. Wade is in NO NO NO danger!
I’m not inspired….I’m pissed….I’m mad as hell….
#570 Puget Sound Island Girl
How do you go to that site?
He’s playing the game. I just expected him to be less controlled. He’s being a good dog. lol
if he can do this good with Hill NOT the nominee, image what would have been had she gotten it!
damn it.
Bill is doing this for Hillary. He is doing what he has TO for Hillary. Guys, please remember this. He is out of town after this speech. His absence at the coronation on Thursday is validation that these “words” are BS.
MAKE THAT 17,999,998………..
I WISH TO BE EXCUSED……
Wonder who wrote he speech. Sounds like emply rehtoric.
Comments yesterday said Hillary didn’t do enough to praise obama, Bill taking the heat off her right now. Now it’t Obama’s election to lose, not the Clintons to win for him.
Candidate X promises you everything you want, but can deliver NONE of what you want.
Candidate Y shares only 1/2 of what you want, but can deliver on that 1/2.
Who do you choose?
B. Clinton.
OMG _ Bill found the Koolaide – I guess we were all wrong about his viewpoints – wish he had walked out now – his complete endorsement of how great BO is will surely give the polls a big big pounce tomorrow so be ready for it – he wants us 18 million to vote for BO as well.
I mean: check out his site: it’s right at the top.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm
“John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.
Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. “
#290 Blue Blue Gal
Ok, some of us keep them to maintain us informed and others get them out.
#744 Anna7000, I can’t take credit….I reposted from
#698 ShinebrightHillary!
Fight on PUMA’s.
We have an election to lose.
How can Bill have said what he said abut x and Y and still support this shill? Hillary must have told him to shut it.
Murphy where are you???
JeffinNY
Take your pod message somewhere else!
#742 JeffInNC on 08.27.08 at 9:15 pm
You are right – I just checked his site out under human dignity and life…oh, crumbs.
Now I have no candidate to vote for.
#758 Jeremy on 08.27.08 at 9:18 pm Bill is doing this for Hillary. He is doing what he has TO for Hillary. Guys, please remember this. He is out of town after this speech. His absence at the coronation on Thursday is validation that these “words” are BS.
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Well said! I couldn’t agree with you more.
when they were playing can’t wait untill tomorrow Hillary was rocking out to it in her seat and singing. Do you read anything into that?
No we WON’T!
The choice is clear!
Nobama/Nobiden/November!
Hilljacking (verb): the act of seizing control in the name of Hillary Clinton
visit http://hilljackers.com
please show your support
If people as powerful as the Clintons can be made to fall in line, be very scared about what is going on.
That’s all I have to say about that.
McCain is NOT PUBLIC FINANCING ANYMORE. I watched the FEC the other night grant McCains request to opt out of public financing so he could compete with Obama!
I saw it with my own two eyes, they granted his request.
17,999,997….please excuse me also
Yes Jeff, I understand that however even if it were overturned individual states could still allow it…have you read the actual decision itself?
He is trying to salvage his reputation with black voters.
This is sickening!
#751 Bill told a reporter to come talk to him in January when they were asking him about the race card issue. Now that will be an interesting interview.
If this site becomes a pep rally for John McCain, I’m afraid I won’t have a home any more.
I may not be a Democrat right now, but I’m sure as heck not a Republican.
The best I can do is write in Hillary . . . just another impotent gesture on my part . . . or stay home.
I rec’d this from the NY sec of state. To all you NY’ers out there you can send your letters here:
Thank you for your recent e-mail. Please contact the NYS Board of Elections online http://www.elections.state.ny.us
We hope this is of help to you.
Department of State
61 BrooklynNY on 08.27.08 at 9:19 pm
Candidate X promises you everything you want, but can deliver NONE of what you want.
Candidate Y shares only 1/2 of what you want, but can deliver on that 1/2.
Who do you choose?
B. Clinton.
____________________________________________
Discouraged Pumas REMEMBER President Clinton really means the above!!!
#742: Queen81 is right, Jeff. You got it wrong. . . read the website again. He wants to overturn R v W – BECAUSE he thinks it is a flawed decision and wants to take the abortion question out of the hands of the federal justices and put it in the hands of the individual states. He has often said the same, openly, himself.
OMG – Bill is trying HARD to turn Hillary supporters away from McCain. He is saying a LOT that is inaccurate, People.
I will still vote for John Mccain,I will help defeat obama,roe vs wade canot be overturned just by the decision of John mccain.
Thanks but no thanks!
The choice is clear.
We have an election to lose! (I like that!)
Nobama/Nobiden/November
make that 17,999, 987
#766 lovesdogs on 08.27.08 at 9:20 pm
Who can deliver what you want?
If the Democratic Party can have turned out to be something none of us can recognize anymore, the Republican Party may not be what it used to be either. They learned their lesson by electing George Bush; I don’t think they’re what they used to be either.
Senator Clinton will be the nominee in 2012!!!
Gag..I cannot believe what Bill just said about not having expirience…
Bill is really pouring it on them! It’s just lip service
They are playing the role of peacemakers and unifiers. When NObama/NObiden goes down in November, they CANNOT blame it on the Clintons. This is CYA. I heard Bill last March. I know what he said about NOBama. You can’t turn around in a few months and say something different….AND MEAN IT. IT IS CYA.
Had to turn it off it is making me sick. They have all taken the hope dope.
Nobama for me ever. Don’t care what they say or do I will not follow.
Good bye Clintons…
We lost another one! Bill joined in! This is breaking my heart. I know this is what they have to do but I think they are taking it a bit too far…
Do they know something we don’t?
If ’61 is found guilty of something, they will be discredited for pushing him!
(((SANDBAG))) I am an independent conservative. I don’t think it matters who each of us supports at this point. We need to be here because we support a clean, fair process and the strength and respect of women in politics. No matter what party we are. You have to be here with us, for those reasons! Don’t leave because some people support a candidate you don’t like – if I’m not mistaken, that isn’t what PUMA is about, is it?
I will not suport obama no matter who asks me!
What a freaking showwwww….
What a sad, sad day in American politics! I’m just sick!
Anna7000
How do you process a day like today?
Bill has to go and puke now
Now they are free!!!!!!!
Let’s Defeat OBAMA!!!
#780 sandbag
If you hurry you might be able to catch Carrie. She’s on her way to buy a McCain filter just like mine–they’re BOGO at Walmart, lol. Just ignore it. It always gets more intense when emotions are running high. You’re not alone.
wow
I’m sorry but I can not stand to think that that MO with that pathetic face could ever be a first lady….well, maybe at the dog races….oh, not nice….tough! She has no class at all!
what a bizarro world
the republicans will be the democrats and the democrats will be the republicans
actually didn’t it start out that way?
I bet her debt is now paid off!
Unity and Hope? By BO.
All I am hearing is Bill describing what a farce it would be to expect a BO presidency to deliver on anything he pretends to stand for. LOL.
i’m in: 17,999,986
(if i ever go to las vegas, maybe that’ll be my lucky number!)
frack, i’ll always love bill
sniff
This is even more interesting. This sounds very 2 faced. It won’t take much for any one to put any of these statements side by side with past ones like “Fairy Tail”.
Notice it is Bill who sells Obama not Hillary. So there is no tape for 2012.
I think they got one good speech out of him and that is probably all.
Now Its Obama vs McCain the Lion. Hmmmm..
Also
Okay – let me get this straight – the roll call already happened today – and Hillary followed the “script”….I have several questions – I hope someone out there has a response that can help me make sense of this insanity…
a) Did DNC get away with the “secret ballot” roll call as threatened? Or was it an open, public, verbal, floor vote?
b) What on earth could these people (DNC Leadership) have that would cause HRC – the strongest woman I have ever heard of – to CAVE IN – starting in June and continuing through today, as if she were a puppet?
What happened to the one that was going to stand up for us? Was that only until DNC told her to sit down?
c) If the above is the actual case, then it seems to me that Hillary just signed her death warrant for the presidency EVER – who in their right mind would ever trust her again to stay “standing up for us” ? She’s just proven that she will only stand up until the going gets a little tough, and then it’s under the bus with us!
Help me understand – please? I mean, she HAD TO BE WILLING TO COOPERATE WITH THEM – no one could ever MAKE her stand up and ask for a voice vote like that!
18,000,000 ballots of dems at the polls,
18,000,000 ballots of dems,
if one of them says – just say no deal,
17,999,999 ballots of dems at polls
763 JeffInNC – there have been republicans in office forever, and they are always talking about overturning Roe vs Wade – but it never happens. No way McCain will do it either. I do not agree with McCain on several things, but at least I know where he stands. I do not trust BO for 2 seconds.
I didn’t say anything about whether he *can* overturn Roe vs. Wade, or whether he will leave it up to the states (bad luck for women living in red states, by the way).
I was just saying it’s false to suggest that McCain doesn’t plan to try and overturn Roe vs. Wade. If it’s an important issue for you, you’d be mad to vote for McCain. And if it isn’t, fine.
#804 NP4HilARee on 08.27.08 at 9:27 pm
I think you’re right, NP4.
We’re coming full circle.
pumetta – girl, your guess is as good as mine. time passes. feelings evolve. emotion will linger and/or fade and/or morph into action ideas. i don’t do well with emotional shock, but then, who does?
791 Jeremy on 08.27.08 at 9:25 pm
They are playing the role of peacemakers and unifiers. When NObama/NObiden goes down in November, they CANNOT blame it on the Clintons. This is CYA. I heard Bill last March. I know what he said about NOBama. You can’t turn around in a few months and say something different….AND MEAN IT. IT IS CYA.
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He will be out of town tomorrow HIS choice.
C. Y. A. is absolutely right
i have to admit it was a great speech
Bill’s speech paid the debt. Now let’s focus. As the poster above said. We have an election to lose so in 2012 we have something real to win.
I think she should be Mccains vp,
He certainly set a high bar for a man who does not have a notion of what Bill Talked About!
i just couldn’t take him speaking positive about BO because some people will listen to bill and hillary and vote for BO. UUUUGGGGHHHHH
President Bill Clinton is a great speaker!
He already told me what he think of NObama
His X and Y analogy was RIGHT ON TARGET!!!
McCain can smile now, he’s the next President.
Listen what has been spoken in silence……
I need the same pill Hillary and Bill have taken! It does wonders for make believe!
My money and support is at full speeddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd for McCain. I love you Hillary, I will see you in 2012. I still going to give you money for your debt and your senate seat.
Tried to watch Bill’s speech twice. Too nauseating, had to turn it off for good. Did someone slip a kool-aid pill in his drink? I’m tired of trying to find some glimmer of hope in body language and facial expressions… I’d hoped for more. Much, much more. Call this whatever you will, but to stand up and proclaim BO is unqualified and inexperienced with venom in your voice one day, and a few weeks later sing his praises and try to convince me that same person is God’s gift to humankind — well, I’d recognize it as a lie in a personal relationship, so why should I excuse it in a public relationship? Are they doing this to make sure we are mad enough to catapult McCain to victory? I don’t know. I’m think I’m completely done with the D(isgusting)N(nauseating)C(hicanery) Party
Sorry guys, too much for one day!
#816 roxy4hill2 on 08.27.08 at 9:30 pm
Bill won’t be there tomorrow.
i was surprised to hear him say that obama “hit it out of the park” with his vp selection.
Condi rice will not be asked as vp. I believe she is in a relationship with a woman.
you noticed in bills speech the glaring omission of the war on terror,natl security,911 and experience… what he omitted is what he meant to say..
all the other stuff was empty platitudes and bumper sticker gobble de goop
Don’t be so hard on Bill. They had to shovel BO $#it and he probably did not want Hillary to do it. He’s an old BSer from way back. I’m sure he’s talked worse nonsence.
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
Betty a/k/a bruce55555
bill’s shortest convention speech ever..another going though the motions speech like hrc, saying what needed to be said, and not one verb more.
i wasn’t convinced is a clarion call to vote for bo–were any of you?
bill never once mentioned the WAR IN IRAQ
eating dinner.
My husband, who don’t care much for politics is yelling at Bill on TV. He is sickened and he doesn’t even want to hear about politics but this just set him off.
Now just imagine what white, bitter, independents will think.
Interesting.
would a mass pull out from the dem party show a clear message. all on the same day.
if you need to go back for some local election then do it
One thing I can say about Bill Clinton, he’s a consumate politician, but he won’t be there during coronation of NObama, that speaks VOLUME what he thinks of SELECTED nominee.
#778 michelle47 …Yes I’m afraid he is…this is politics my fellow Pumas…many politicians are bought and paid for…I guess I just never wanted to believe that..especially of the Clintons!
731 Anna7000
I really don’t want to create seperate ones, I just don’t want people to feel like they have to leave because they can’t support McCain. And I would always want to be able to comment on both, they would just be able to express their frustrations and feelings without someone telling them they are wrong.
It may not be something the majority wants to do, I just don’t want to loose people, not even one person.
What we have to do now is just as important as what we have done so far…….we need every voice we have, plus a million more.
#828 LibertyPuma on 08.27.08 at 9:33 pm Condi rice will not be asked as vp. I believe she is in a relationship with a woman.
I have never heard that before mmmm!
#829 pink puma on 08.27.08 at 9:33 pm
you noticed in bills speech the glaring omission of the war on terror,natl security,911 and experience… what he omitted is what he meant to say..
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That’s how I listen to the Clintons–what they DON’T say often says a lot. They are smart people. They have a plan. There is a lot going on that we don’t know about.
they are all for sale on both sides.
BTW……I could not watch Bill, it has been a rough day and I couldn’t take it.
I love Bill and Hillary but this is a bit much.
If not now then Hillary in 2012.
No one is listening to Kerry in CNN because they are talking about Clinton!
Bill made a strong case
#790 blondlady, #791 Jeremy
I fully agree that it was lip-service & CYA on the part of the Clinton’s. Bill really did lay it on them/us though. Too bad he’s such a good speaker.
While no one will ever, ever, ever, ever convince me to vote for Obama, he possibly convinced some who were on the fence. Which is a bummer!
This whole thing just makes me ill! What a huge joke the whole role-call thing was….All pre-meditated and non-democratic like it was.
Grrrrrr! I’ve been wanting to puke for the last several hours!
Maybe the Clintons are going to work to change things from the inside. She will have more power in the party now that she is no longer the candidate who is ruining their plans for their selected one. She can do more for the issues that are dear to her and a lot of us, like healthcare, fair wages, womens rights if she is still politics.
I support her, but since my vote was completely disregarded in farse of a role call – I’m mad as hell and won’t “shut up and sit down”.
If Bill really meant anything he said and actually endorsed NOBama in his heart, then he would be in full charge of the legion at the Greek Temple on Thursday. His absence is the saving grace to this entire tragedy that happened today. As for people going out and voting for NOBama/NOBiden because of President Clinton’s words—let’s give these “voters” more credit. They know these were WORDS…JUST WORDS. I have been on and off with friends regarding this and we are laughing. Bill is “Slick!” and knows what he is doing.
i would hate to be stuck in a room with kerry blabbering
763 JeffInNC………….. I believe you are a paid blogger for BHO. I really wish you would get off this site.. take your scare tatctics and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine. I am going to ask that you be REMOVED from this site.
My main goal is to defeat BO by electing McCain. No one really knows who BO is. Both BO and the DP cheated their own voters. If he gets in office the only way to remove him is by impeachment. That is not an easy task You better believe that BO and the DP are trying to game the GE with ACORN.
What is happening in Denver occurs in a communist country. I’m fighting back by electing McCain.
they only thing worse than listening to kerry would be listening to bush and/or cheney
Both Hillary and Bill are smart enough to realize that this is the most important election of our lifetime. These are intelligent and educated people and if you supported them this far, you should go the distance.
WHY ROE V. WADE ISN’T GOING ANYWHERE:
If you read the decision itself you will understand why it has stood for so long. the case itself has nearly nothing to do with abortion, it’s all about a right to privacy as implied in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 14th amendments. the court held that this privacy extends to “marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and child rearing and education”
Overturning the ruling opens a pandoras box on everything from condoms, to homeschooling, to divorce, to healthcare issues.
Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. In the 25 years since the decision we have had 7 presidents. 5 of them have been republicans, and yet the decision stands.
This case is misrepresented all the time by both repubs and dems. I hope this has been helpful for those who like me, are pro-choice.
Bill did just what he had to no more he said Biden would babysit him
820 SARTOM
“He certainly set a high bar for a man who does not have a notion of what Bill Talked About!”
I love the way you phrased that!
whatashame i think you are right
#804 NP4HilARee
Here’s how it started in a very abbreviated version:
The Republican Party and Democrat Party as we know them today, started as factions of the same party (Democratic-Republican Party) which split due to a very similar situation:
” (1824) The majority of the party boycotted the caucus. Jackson finished first in the Electoral College, but had no majority; Adams, Crawford, and Clay followed in that order; after which Clay and his friends (since Clay was no longer eligible) supported Adams. The Jacksonian faction became the basis of the present Democratic Party; the Adams-Clay faction, National Republicans”
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This slice of history sounds awfully familiar, and today (just like then) “party unity” sounds like nothing more than wishful thinking. IMHO It’s very possible that after this fiasco, the DNC might never be a viable party again ?
853 WhataShame
The distance to 2012, and nothing else.
I am still with MCcain I stll believe he just put enough out to get out of there
queen81 it does not matter about who is president. it is the justices. we all know that. and they have been open in stating that they want to overturn it. don’t be fooled.
820 SARTOM on 08.27.08 at 9:31 pm
He certainly set a high bar for a man who does not have a notion of what Bill Talked About!
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LMAO
Hey!!! How come no one here ever told me all this good stuff about BO like Bill and Kerry are? Are we talking about the same BO?
Damn, Bill, where did you EVER see BO do ANY of the things you say he can do? Whatcha been smoking tonight? Whatever it is. much as I love you, please don’t be blowing that smoke up my A**!!!!!
#822 Asian4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 9:31 pm
You’re right on target Asian. I agree totally.
He just reminded me what BO is NOT; not what he is. So, in my mind, he just told me NOBAMA.
And he did it masterfully. He fooled all the BOTS; but he didn’t fool me.
would someone please remove the troll !!!
I am not in the mood tonight. I’ve had QUITE ENOUGH !!
Is his brother from Kenya here tonight, too?
How bout his Mom? Where’s she at?
Venting:
I am sick of “this is what they have to do” or “what they didnt say” or “they know what they’re doing”.
Okay, I believe all of those things about the Clintons and even said them. BUT right now………I’m sick of it.
Thanks, just venting……..feel better now…….not really.
any news on the birth certificate?
“The L.A. Times just popped a big story the Obama-Biden folks don’t want to be reading the night the Delaware senator introduces himself to the nation: a potential conflict of interest involving Biden and one of the nation’s biggest asbestos litigation law firms — which also happens to be his top contributor…..”
To read more (it’s actually a very short article)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080828/pl_politico/20080&printer=1;_ylt=AjzNny4draL4FmKGGEHiIjrCw5R4
cry baby kerry
i am not voting for obama. not voting for mccain. not voting out of spite. my vote has to be earned. it is not given away as a consolation prize. too many people died to protect my right to vote and i will not use it as a tool for hate.
Is there a troll? Where’s the troll? Who’s got the troll?
Hey! It’s my turn! Toss that troll over here.
Swat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Queen, I agree. I remember all of the fear tactics the Democrats used during the Reagan years. They kept saying the if Republicans continued to run the White House we would be barefoot and pregnant and having illegal abortions with hangers. I believed them and donated to Planned Parenthood and kept voting Democrat.
Guess what. Planned Parenthood is still up and running and the sky has not fallen.
The Democrats use this as a scare tactic to keep women their hostage. They figured they could kick Hillary to the curb and it would not have any negative repurcussions because they can wave the Roe vs. Wade carrot in our face and we would be too afraid to vote anything different than Democrat.
News flash to the DNC, you do not own my vote and you will no longer manipulate me. I speak for myself and my vote is my voice. You will NOT get my vote no matter what you do.
# 648 Patty
You hit the nail on the head! The “issues” pendulum has been held over our heads by both monopolizing party’s, it’s an EITHER OR situation. Either you vote for a democrat who will protect the environment, women’s rights etc. OR you vote for a Republican who will allow the environment and women’s rights to be destroyed. Something is very wrong with this set up.
Tomorrow is a new day, night all you wonderful Pumas.
If Bill said he was glad Biden was picked for VP I believe he was sincere. Yeah, he was so glad it WASN’T Hillary!!! Biden saved Hillary from having to ruin her future by being tied to BO who is going to go up in smoke no matter what the outcome of this is.
McCain can have my vote but not my money. Those Republicans have way to much and need to send some to me. What I can afford goes to Hillary and PUMApac.
The more I hear and see of the BO people, the more convinced I am they are looney lefties who do not care what they destroy to achieve their looney goals. I fear it is destruction of those on the similarly far right. They do not care if they have to destroy us in the middle to do it.
The Republicans swung too far Right, not the Democrats are swinging too far Left. America, the roller coaster. Bipartisanship is but another diversity issue.
Interesting notfollowed. But also wasn’t the conservative/ liberal labels switched somewhere along the line?
how about calling this new party the “True Democrats”
865 KENDALBLUE on 08.27.08 at 9:44 pm
would someone please remove the troll !!!
I am not in the mood tonight. I’ve had QUITE ENOUGH !!
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They have been here all day ,please ignore them until the moderater comes on.
I think I got whatever KendalBlue and Anna have~~~extreme shock from the events of the last week or 2. I sure am not feeling good, for real.
820 SARTOM on 08.27.08 at 9:31 pm
He certainly set a high bar for a man who does not have a notion of what Bill Talked About!
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And our Hillary did the same thing last night!
Just think about this:
Regardless of what Bill and Hillary said these past two days, they have managed to turn the convention to all about them. BO lost control of this convention. If you watch the news coverage, it has been ALL about the Clintons.
Now you have to admit – that was pretty shrewd on their part.
878 NP4HilARee
or “true blues”
i said i am not voting for obama. i like how you think that anyone that does not agree with you should be censored. that is not even american. if that is what puma is about then i am out. there is nothing good happening here any more.
870 Anna7000 It just keeps getting deeper!
republican party…. democrat party we should be called the American party
I will bet that McCain picks a woman VP nominee.
The trolls are out tonight why are they not watching the crowning of thier King .
#882 Middle age female on 08.27.08 at 9:49 pm
Just think about this:
Regardless of what Bill and Hillary said these past two days, they have managed to turn the convention to all about them. BO lost control of this convention. If you watch the news coverage, it has been ALL about the Clintons.
Now you have to admit – that was pretty shrewd on their part.
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Exactly. Why do you think MO is so mad?
hey how about ….? the DemoCRAP party.
#763 JeffInNC,
Go back to Obambi’s website and spew your lies.
Roe vs. Wade will never be overturned. Beside, we have a Dem. congress.
I don’t see what the problem is for those who are staying home and not voting. As long as you are not voting for Obama, that is one less vote for him.
I respect everyone’s decision here. Voting is a personal choice and you have to vote with your conscience.
I am getting pumped for the RNC. The Greek Temple is so cheesy. This is just firing up. And another thing regarding Bill and his speech tonight. Let’s see how many campaign stumps….IF ANY…he does for NOBAMA/NOBIDEN. Any planned? I will go out on a limb and “just say no.” Also, let’s see how many campaign stumps Hillary has planned for the above farced ticket. Again, word…just words! Actions are GOLD!
I like that the American Party
(((((((((((((((((LivingGrace)))))))))))))))))))
hang in there sweetie
#879 roxy4hill2 on 08.27.08 at 9:48 pm
865 KENDALBLUE on 08.27.08 at 9:44 pm
would someone please remove the troll !!!
I am not in the mood tonight. I’ve had QUITE ENOUGH !!
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They have been here all day ,please ignore them until the moderater comes on.
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You mean a troll pulled one over on me? In my moment of weakness? Ohhh ………
Hey Liberty I like it…..THE AMERICAN PARTY!
PUMAS STAY STRONG! THEY HAVENT WON THE WAR HE IS NOT PRESIDENT!
Kerry… boring. I’m glad he didn’t win.
thank you MsMaVotes. i am not voting obama. and i thought one of the rules here was not to attack each other. i do not appreciate being called a troll.
#872 4Hillary
Cross voting is not necessarily using your vote as a tool of hate. It is simply a way of doubling you impact. A smaller group such as us, in opposition to a larger group such as them, can double our effect by cross voting. But I agree that it is emotionally offensive.
you own your vote one of PUMA roolz
kids…….. it does have a nice ring to it
as far as bill’s speech..it’s easy to be magnanimous and heap praise upon a loser..it makes one look noble..
now bill and hill will go behind closed doors and do their best to sink obama
Pumas dont get mad–get even.
grrrrwwwllll
At least McCain won his nomination fair and square by the rules of the Repub Nat’l Committee.
Nobama thieves his way up.
No way, no how, nobama in Nov.
896 pumetta……………….jeffNC,,,THAT’S THE TROLL
To all my American Puma friends, don’t be discouraged. Hill and Bill are a dynamite political team. They are thinking ahead. If they didn’t do what they have done at the convention, they would have lost all hope for 2012. They know the mainstream American public are loosing interest in Obama. He is sinking his own ship. When HIllary runs in 2012, she will need the other 18 million, so they can’t afford to disenfranchise them, as Obama has done to PUMA’s. Look how the Puma movement has grown, and how none of you are going to forget. This way Hill & Bill can bring everyone to the team in 2012 and no one can accuse them of anything but being absolutely credible professionals. Cheer up and get ready for 2012!
I’m not sure the one talking about McCain and Abortion is really a troll. I don’t know the whole deal, but McCain does believe the Abortion issue is a State issue, not a Federal One. He does not believe it is the job of the court to legislate Morality.
#888 kids1627 on 08.27.08 at 9:51 pm
The trolls are out tonight why are they not watching the crowning of thier King .
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Because when little boys get scared that their daddies aren’t what they thought, they go crying to their mommies for comfort. (Apologies to the PUMA MEN among us.) Now shouldn’t we be nicer to the poor things? NOT!
Had to go SCREAM… THEN CAME THE FLLLLKING TEARS….
NOW I’m MAD.
I’m not going to even TALK about Bill and his speech, but I will say this…
BARKKKK GRWLLLL got my fangs and my claws let me out of my box because I AM PISSED OFF and this BITCH is ready to ATTACK!
NOBAMA…NO FLLKKKING WAY….READ MY LIPS you FASCIST MISOGYNIST LYING SACKS OF SHIT I WILL NEVER STAND DOWN…
Tonight Democracy is Dead….tomorrow we can start trying to revive her…
AND MO CAN KISS MY ARSE ThAT WOMAN IS SO UGLY INSIDE THAT IT SCARES ME TO LOOK AT HER…
ANd this is me being calm and sedate…
HILLARY OR MCCAIN!!!
going to tuck myself in. sweet dreams pride
we’d better check and see if this is taken yet.
“I would like to register as a member of the American Party”
Now that they strong armed their way to crown their chosen one, I won’t be watching tomorrow and the Repubs are done next week, and I don’t plan on watching any of that….I’m getting my mixers ready so I can sit back and enjoy the fireworks. I think this is going to be the most entertaining election ever.
896 pumetta on 08.27.08 at 9:54 pm
#879 roxy4hill2 on 08.27.08 at 9:48 pm
865 KENDALBLUE on 08.27.08 at 9:44 pm
would someone please remove the troll !!!
I am not in the mood tonight. I’ve had QUITE ENOUGH !!
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They have been here all day ,please ignore them until the moderater comes on.
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You mean a troll pulled one over on me? In my moment of weakness? Ohhh ………
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Yep taken advantage of our moment of weakness!!!
Puma Pounce slightly weak tonight.
OOOOH but if they come back tomorrow GAME ON!!!
884 4 hillary
please read 231 again. the founding principles of PUMA and i agree with you about what you do whith your vote–it is your choice.
please don’t give up on pumapac–we’re all wound up right now–it has been a tough 24 hours. now more that ever, we need to stay together to retake our party and elect hrc as potus next time.
Anyone know when the Denver gang is leaving Denver? Any of them going to the Barackolis? I have an old toga they can borrow.
TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!
I have been to the Acropolis, and Barry’s does not even come close.
Hi PUMA’s,
I have been here from the beginning.. a silent supporter. When May 31st happened, like you, I was in total shock. Then…. I found this blog. All along, I have come to know you all, watched your struggles and felt your pain. I also had the honor of watching you come together and work so hard for a common goal and form strong bonds. From time to time, I chimmed in, when I felt that I could. I did feel that I did not have a right to be a “PUMA”, because I am a republican. But I supported your cause and did what I could. I feel, as you do, that my vote counts and no one has the right to take it away. Your cause was just and your candidate was the right one. I am sorry that your hearts are breaking. I was hoping that it would not turn out this way. I have a friend who’s heart is breaking at this moment and her father is a delegate at the convention. I have longed to be a part of this wonderful “sisterhood/brotherhood” but knew that I did not have that right. But… here you are and here I am. Now, we have the same goal, to keep #61 from being elected. I am ready, if you will have me, to be a “PUMA”, to help with this fight.
Press Release
For Immediate Release
Aug 26, 2008
Barr Only Presidential Candidate on Texas Ballot
Republicans, Democrats miss deadline to file presidential candidates in Texas
Bob Barr is slated to be the only presidential candidate on the ballot in Texas after Republicans and Democrats missed the Aug. 26 deadline to file in the state.
“Unless the state of Texas violates its own election laws, Congressman Barr will be the only presidential candidate on the ballot,” says Russell Verney, campaign manager for the Barr Campaign and the former campaign manager for Ross Perot. “Texas law makes no exceptions for missing deadlines.”
The Texas Secretary of State Web site shows only Bob Barr as the official candidate for president in Texas.
“We know all about deadlines,” says Verney. “We are up against them constantly in our fight to get on the ballot across the nation. When we miss deadlines, we get no second chances. This is a great example of how unreasonable deadlines chill democracy.”
“Republicans and Democrats make certain that third party candidates are held to ballot access laws, no matter how absurd or unreasonable,” says Verney. “Therefore, Republicans and Democrats should be held to the same standards.”
source: Libertarian Party site
Today we saw the humiliation 344 delegates what a sham ! We saw the Clintons giving their all for the party that betray us and them . They had to do it but we do not have to , we need to keep going and fight every day with every ounce of energy we have , we have to make sure that not only the DNC understand that in fact we were serious about it but more important is the fact that Obama would be the worst thing it could happen to America . No way , NO how NOBAMA , We need to fight until we achive our goal . The only choice we have its to help elect McCain .
Jennifer……….don’t be shy…tell us how you feel. LOL
re#898 4Hill
watch out for the witch hunters here who will accuse you of practicing “troll”craft and have you burnt at the stake..
–one mans troll is another mans free speech..
i dont like what you say..i call you a troll..
its the same old thing been around since salem mass..
The 4th of November, the 4th of November…
I see no reason
why the DNC treason
should ever be forgot.
I will remember on the 4th of November
that DNC treason in Denver.
(credit due to the PUMA who originated this takeoff on the Guy Fawkes ditty)
My unsolicited 2 cents: get over to your nearest John McCain Campaign Headquarters and volunteer ASAP.
wonder why obama didnt go to his mother’s funeral?
And we could use a PUMA let them keep the jackass
Pumas, please don’t fight…
I have been lurking for awhile and haven’t had the nerve to jump in. You all go so fast!
I am a conservative and I feel everyone has the right to vote for whom ever they want. Just don’t vote for OBAMA!
Vote for the Green Party or vote for someone else who will take votes from Obama, but please don’t leave.
You gals and guys have been inspirational to watch (read) in action. All of you have had a hard battle, please don’t quit now.
Your country needs you to go on. Only you can truly open up the caucus fraud to the light of day. It is your stories and images that will get the publics attention. The RP can’t tell these truths the way all of you can.
Stay together and fight Obama, not each other.
I would have been content if Hillary had won the GE. I am how ever, scared to death of O winning.
All of you achieved many difficult goals. Don’t let other’s private opinions separate what has been a awesome team.
Oh DNC – yes, I am speaking to you -
WE WILL REMEMBER DENVER IN NOVEMBER!!!
So what are you all going to be watching on TV tomorrow night as the fraud is officially crowned at the Invesco debaucle??
Hello Puma Family,
I wanted everyone to know that we were fortunate to
come to Denver. We are still here.
Today, we went to The Cheesecake Factory to have lunch and I was able to give PumaPac business cards
to four other ladies that are Sen. Clinton’s supporters.
They were so very happy to know of our group that I left them more cards for their friends and families. I think, passing the word from mouth to mouth really works.
Let’s get to work. This is not over yet!
Kendalblue,
you noticed he stopped posting when I brought out the education! LOL, gotta love it…they always run when you speak the truth. he doesn’t know who he is messing with. My undergraduate and graduate studies in Criminology have involved lots of political science and constitutional law…bring on the trolls, this educated woman has something for ya!
I am done with this convention.
Hillary and Bill gave their speech without teleprompter.
Teleprompter is like AMERICAN EXPRESS for NObama, he can’t bullshit his way without it.
I gave Johnny some money for some more fun ads I will also give to Puma and to those that might stay Home thats ok to just no BO
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/27/texas-gop-to-launch-ad-highlighting-obamas-links-to-questionable-characters/
And so it begins yeahhhhhhhhh
JUDAS HAS BEEN YANKED.
Bill Richardson will not be a speaker at convention after all. Something related to anger changed the schedule around at the last second, it was just announced by Jim Lerher
#606 Caracal Carrie,
We all own our vote. We must all do whatever feels right for us.
Some Puma’s will vote McCain, some will write in, and I’v even heard some say they will stay home and not vote in pretest.
We are free to do whatever we feel.
You are special to us, and we need you.
goodnight all. We will press on another day, because we are PUMAs and we know in the end what has to be done. We will not be caged or captured. We will be free and we will kind and nice to our friends and viscous and cutthroat to those that threaten us.
I say to anyone still watching the televised lie bought and paid for by NOBama-Democratic Party—Turn it Off! It is over. And watching a Cesar wannabe being crowned in the beautiful city of Denver is doing Denver a disservice. Denver is a beautiful city in a beautiful state. Sad that this memory was recreated there. On to the new mission.
The only thing I can think of is that if Bill didn’t lay it on that thick tonight, they’d all be talking about how the Clinton’s secretly wanted Obama to lose. (Which we think & hope they do, of course!) –But after all the talk & observations of how Hillary didn’t actually say last night that B.O. was qualified to be Pres., (which I’m glad she held her integrity and didn’t say)… But in light of that, maybe Bill & Hillary decided he’d have to lay it on that thick tonight so that they wouldn’t be accused of wanting him to lose. Because being accused of that would affect her chances & support in 2012 from all the kool-aid drinking party insiders. Make sense????
I hope that’s the case, at least! Because the Clinton’s are an extremely smart couple, who certainly know the inner-workings of the party and it’s players MUCH more than any of us. If they didn’t have a future-plan up their sleeve for 2012 with all this, I just don’t think they would’ve gone as far as they have! Why would they have needed to go so far? …More than any other losing candidate ever has!
We know it’s all an act! I just hope their acting on behalf of B.O. and the party does NOT convince anyone less informed and help him to win in Nov!
Without a plan for 2012, today would be a very, very sad day for Hillary. It already was a very sad day for her. I personally felt so bad for her and I really don’t know how she could’ve said those words to give him the nomination. I could hardly even watch. The whole process and sham of the party was just SO DISGUSTING!
But I do have a lot of confidence that Hillary always knows what she’s doing! So I firmly-firmly believe that laying the groundwork for 2012 is what this was all about. That’s the only thing I can console myself with!
Puma’s, we have to work hard to make sure McCain wins in November. Not only for Hillary to run in 2012, but also because Obama is way-too-scary of a prospect as POTUS!
#892 MsMaVotes
I don’t see what the problem is for those who are staying home and not voting. As long as you are not voting for Obama, that is one less vote for him.
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I agree that either option is a step in the right direction for America.
The way I see it, not voting; writing in a vote; or a lesser known party vote, is single punch to BO. (Far better than voting for him)
But for some of us…..we need to know that we gave him the old ONE, TWO– a sucker punch. Personally I want to see his political career down for the count. Let him go back to organizing his community. Maybe with a little humility, he can get it right this time!
The AMERICAN PARTY IS ALREADY TAKEN………SHUCKS
GO PUMAS-
HEY HOW ABOUT THE PUMA PARTY?
#916 scarlet on 08.27.08 at 9:58 pm
Press Release
For Immediate Release
Aug 26, 2008
Barr Only Presidential Candidate on Texas Ballot
Republicans, Democrats miss deadline to file presidential candidates in Texas…
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THIS IS WHAT jbjd WAS TALKING ABOUT
She was talking about working to keep BO off the ballots of individual states to keep him from being elected.
On Roe v. Wade….it’s not going anywhere. Let Obama find something else. How about…election reform?
#916 scarlet on 08.27.08 at 9:58 pm
Press Release
For Immediate Release
Aug 26, 2008
Barr Only Presidential Candidate on Texas Ballot
Republicans, Democrats miss deadline to file presidential candidates in Texas…
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THIS IS WHAT jbjd WAS TALKING ABOUT
She was talking about working to keep BO off the ballots of individual states to keep him from being elected.
The Roe v Wade scare tactic is laughable. Ignore….ignore.
#916 scarlet on 08.27.08 at 9:58 pm
Hang onto that information! We may need that going forward.
I am really pissed about the way they did that Roll call that will go down in History and it will be a lie
Another Puma for McCain!
#915 nativegirl
Welcome aboard!!!!!!
As angry as I am about the Clinton’s and their backing of nochance…They really did school Obama on…This is what a real politician looks like, they kicked his ass into the corner he belongs in.
#908 jenniforhillary
It feels confirming to hear another person state how MO makes them feel when they look at her. I get such a feeling of bitterness, hate and pure evil when I look at her. I won’t comment on Bill Clinton’s speech, he did what he had to do. I will never vote BO and will do everything within my power to ensure that he does not get this presidential nomination.
Maryland – only 143 trolls, why are we being ignored?
#525 Kids
Nader didn’t cost Gore the 2000 election. Why should I have voted for Gore.? That’s similar to telling me I should vote for Obama. Nader voters weren’t going fpr Gore any more than we’re going for Obama.
MSMA – there are sites where you can have t-shirts custom made. Before this site was started I had one made that said” Party Unity My A**”. I still wear it.
Nativegirl,
If you share a love for democracy, Nativegirl, you’re welcome here as far as I am concerned.
If the Republican primary had done the same thing as the Dems did this cycle, I would be on a Repub site objecting too, even though I have never been a Repub.
After what happened in this Dem primary, and after what happened in the 2000 election, I said to myself that I would never stand silent no matter which party defiled democracy.
If one party violates the basic principles of democracy, even in their own internal operations, ALL AMERICANS suffer. And I feel it any democracy loving person to stand up and fight.
WE WILL DEFINITELY REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.
Unbelievable, are we a third world country now?
941 alohapuma on 08.27.08 at 10:04 pm
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Yes it is. Roe v wade decision is based in privacy rights which are protected by our Constitution. Or at least they used to be, but that could sure change with a BO Presidency. FISA was just the first step.
#848 Jeremy on 08.27.08 at 9:38 pm…and everyone else who’s said similar…
You’re right! It does speak volumes that he won’t be in attendance tomorrow!
Here is a little humor you will all enjoy. I received a letter asking for a donation for BO. On the front of the envelope it said, “By using your own first-class stamp to return this envelope, you will save us much-needed funds”. So I decided to send it back and on the front of the envelope in red ink I said, “Was Obama thinking of saving money with his over the top spectacle at the stadium?”
Give me a break, he can spend millions on this outrageous faux Whitehouse and not bat an eye.
Sen McCains birthday is Friday, I plan to send $5.44.
They may of held something over her head she is only a JR senator and Chuck the Rat was in on this they could take away her seat or black ball her she has already paid enough so has Bill why should they even want to run they have the best hearts in pol and are always beat up by both party’s and MSM
Coward freaking Dean in Fox now!
#924 NObamaDem on 08.27.08 at 10:01 pm
” So what are you all going to be watching on TV tomorrow night as the fraud is officially crowned at the Invesco debaucle??”
TVLand. Thursdays night is one of the best line ups. 2 hours of Sanford and Son, followed by 2 hours of Hogan’s Heros. No comparison to the quality. My DirectTV will be aimed on Fred and Colonel Klink.
Notfollowin, I too will vote for McCain and then I am going to mail an envelope to the DNC letting them know that I did it. If those who are planning of voting for McCain can somehow let the DNC know that’s what they did, then maybe the message we want to send to them will be a little clearer.
I am so disgusted by the Chosen One that I will do everything in my power to make sure he is not elected. I also want to let the DNC know that I am not happy with what they did to my party.
I’m trying to figure out if MO’s sour expressions are genetic or did she have to practice them. How can someone look so disagreeable?
What I said about McCain was not a scare tactic and I don’t really take it to be a bad thing. I agree with him that it is not for the supreme court to decide, I think it is a states right.
McCain is not going to even try to overturn Roe V Wade, because he knows it will never happen.
Asian4Hillary (#928)
Actually, last night there was a shot of Hillary at the podium from behind – and right there smack dab in the middle of the podium, between her hands – was a TELEPROMPTER!!!! Not that I ever saw her LOOK at it, mind you…..
(sorry to burst your bubble – especially today!!!)
Still waiting on a clarification on just “how” anyone “MADE” the Clintons do anything????
What happens WHEN Bo gets dumped or is in jail? Hillary will be in, right? There is no way they will automatically vote in cruddy NoBiden, is there? Surely the fact that he only got 1% of the votes enough to deter tha. I’m holding onto the theory that Bill and Hillary have said and done what they have purely because they are counting on Nobamby being out of the picture soon, and with what they said nobody can blame them for it. THEN our golden girl will be next in line. That’s my theory and I’m stickin’ to it!!!!!
Murphy, can you please come on and say something? Even if it is that planning is underway.
If you are mourning and disappointed…I respect your needing time.
I am used to your coming on and saying what we need to hear.
924 NObamaDem – I will not watch the coronation, but I will watch FOX afterward to hear their viewpoint and the other pundits viewpoints.
I will be watching the rerun of Project Runway, I am so far behind on that.
I am curious about the Chosen One and his Grecian Temple, but I will catch the clips on the news afterwards.
I think this a good motto moving forward (someone mentioned it earlier)
NObama; NObiden; NOvember
ICK! Well I am good with McCain. I feel bad for all of you Dems this must just make you sick to see your party in this corrupt light. I am so sorry for you and our country. I am only an Independent who votes Dem 75% of the time and so I am sickened by the situation but I always thought both parties were crooked so the only thing that surprises me is the tin ear of the BOites and how they are so obvious in their weaselly power grubbing behavior.
Hang in there gang we will defeat this pretender.
What is the deal for the BO coronation tomorrow? I hear there is a rock concert? He sure doesn’t grasp the seriousness of the situation. I guess he is too chicken to give a speech that people haven’t been bribed to attend. Just as the real reason he didn’t pick Hillary for VP is because she makes him look like a pretender when she is in the same place he is. What a bunch of dopes.
Jeremy,
we have to watch the fiasco so we won’t forget what to do in November, I want to witness the last scene to get the guts to go in the booth and vote McRain!!!
#931 maxgrader
Update on the Richardson situation:
Mr. Lerher now says that Richardson has simply been rescheduled for tomorrow night. No reason given for tonight’s no show. Something about B. Clinton still being angry was mentioned before.
Sorry if I got you all excited over nothing, apparently.
Since someone mentioned Karl Rove in an earlier post, I can’t help but think how Karl was way ahead of the game by selling the idea to Donna Brazile that she must first collapse the DNC… way back then and of course she gladly bought it line and sinker. What a shame.
731 Anna7000 on 08.27.08 at 9:13 pm:
…another option to seperate blogs, assuming PUMApac continues on, might be that we form different committees who are tasked with different things to focus on and ways to focus on them….
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Can you elaborate on this a bit more Anna?
#915 nativegirl on 08.27.08 at 9:58 pm Hi PUMA’s,
I have been here from the beginning.. a silent supporter. When May 31st happened, like you, I was in total shock. Then…. I found this blog. All along, I have come to know you all, watched your struggles and felt your pain. I also had the honor of watching you come together and work so hard for a common goal and form strong bonds. From time to time, I chimmed in, when I felt that I could. I did feel that I did not have a right to be a “PUMA”, because I am a republican. But I supported your cause and did what I could. I feel, as you do, that my vote counts and no one has the right to take it away. Your cause was just and your candidate was the right one. I am sorry that your hearts are breaking. I was hoping that it would not turn out this way. I have a friend who’s heart is breaking at this moment and her father is a delegate at the convention. I have longed to be a part of this wonderful “sisterhood/brotherhood” but knew that I did not have that right. But… here you are and here I am. Now, we have the same goal, to keep #61 from being elected. I am ready, if you will have me, to be a “PUMA”, to help with this fight.
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I think what you wrote is intelligent and well thought out and I appreciate your candor and your — well emotional connection here. Thank YOU!… Nice to know you!
I will be watching a rerun of the L Word tomorrow night!
Meg Whitman for vp
Seattle, that is one of the things that bothers me the most about OB. He is almost making a mockery of the Presidency. This is the most important jobs in the world and we are going to leave it to this amateur. I cannot get over the fact the the American people are so gullible to vote for someone this inexperienced and naive.
I just don’t get it. As far as i’m concerned Obama is nothing but a joke.
We need to ignore the trolls among us…Gee if they weren’t still worried they would not be on our blog…GO HOME TROLLS..JUST BECAUSE HILL AND BILL HAD TO ENDORSE BO WE DON’T…WE ARE FREE THINKERS AND CHOOSE COUNTRY OVER PARTY!!
964 MsMaVotes
I just finished project runway and now I’m on to shear genius…..lol
I have no clue what to watch……but no politics for a couple of days.
Native Girl.. welcome.
With both party’s having their major flaws –maybe we will find common ground amongst ourselves.
I am a Democrat–pro choice, anti war, socail programs up the kazoo (hey– we have 1:150 children being born autistic), womens, seniors, childrens and minority rights.. tree hugger, all of it. Dick Cheney has been in several of my nightmares..once masquerading as hulk hogan..
BUT–I have recently taken a liking to BILL O and that would have never occurred had it not been for the evil likes of the other BO.
My thoughts are that both parties have disintegrated and we are nothing but worker bees making them all rich. We need our own new party.. we need to find a way to make America work again. The corporations bought and paid for this primary and even our beloved Clintons were had.
We need to take a hold of this thing.
Welcome new PUMA.
Silver?? If you are the man I just read about…I am honored.
redraz9 have a listen. mccain saying he wants roe v wade overturned. you cannot get any clearer than this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Trbaufpok8&feature=related
I do know that I am especially sad this day… I do know that I will continue on fighting… I know that my voice is heard and that there is more than us or the Clintons at stake here… I do know that America is worth fighting for and we must keep on fighting this … I do know that I am in it for the long haul and as with much in my life I will get over this “big” disappointment.
Please everyone… we need YOU all to continue to expose the hypocrisy that is blatant in the democratic party… we need to change this and we can only do it with the talents of all who are here…
Continue with your skills to be the kind of Americans I have come to know here.
You are all very precious “American voices” and you will be heard!!!
Is there anyone still in Denver, it would be nice to hear something or is there a radio show?
I would have been Ok with Bill’s speech if he hadn’t said, BO is ready to be President. The message that we need to put a Democrat in the White House is palpable, but BO ready???
I don’t think so.
#960 redraz9 I agree with you and McCain that it is totally appropriate for abortion rights to be decided at the state level. Many states already have laws allowing abortion. But there are many cultures in this country and I don’t think the decision belongs to the courts. It was a good way to start to loosen up abortion law but now it is time for the state legislatures to do some hard work and write some laws. The scare tactics the Dems have used for years about Roe v Wade are dishonest.
#895 KENDALBLUE ((((((((ty, g/f)))))))))) gmail
971 queen81 ~~~ I’ll bring the popcorn
938 jody
yes! that!
I am waiting …jbjd has a post that I will post here when she gets it composed. Stay tuned, we might have some work to do in the morning.
Shinebright. I love O’Reilly. I am an independent moderate who has voted both Democrat and Republican. I like the Clinton’s and was ready to vote for Hillary this time but sadly I have to wait until 12.
Bill has gotten a bad rap but I think he is fair. Yes he can bully people and is a tad egotistical, but he will not let neither a Democrat nor a Republican get away with spin on his show. He also does a lot for children’s rights in regards to sex predators.
Thanks to all of you and the Founders of Puma for keeping the American spirit alive. This was an ordeal and a tough battle, and we won – we won because we continue to stick up for the truth.
catsrlove
If you are still here, I hope your news is good. Take care
#981 alohapuma on 08.27.08 at 10:18 pm
But he brought up the Constitution… AGAIN. Interesting.
#938 Jody – see following AND ALL PUMAS – I think this is what we need to do with each of our States to try and prevent BO from getting on our States Ballots – we would all have to go into general election rules and see what the requirement is – I believe there is a 24 hour time frame from tomorrow when he becomes the nominee – HELP THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO STOP HIM FROM BECOMING THE PRESIDENT
781 NP4HilARee on 08.27.08 at 9:22 pm I rec’d this from the NY sec of state. To all you NY’ers out there you can send your letters here:
Thank you for your recent e-mail. Please contact the NYS Board of Elections online http://www.elections.state.ny.us
We hope this is of help to you.
Department of State
938 jody in florida on 08.27.08 at 10:04 pm #916 scarlet on 08.27.08 at 9:58 pm
Press Release
For Immediate Release
Aug 26, 2008
Barr Only Presidential Candidate on Texas Ballot
Republicans, Democrats miss deadline to file presidential candidates in Texas…
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THIS IS WHAT jbjd WAS TALKING ABOUT
She was talking about working to keep BO off the ballots of individual states to keep him from being elected.
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But won’t that hurt McCain also? I forget – is TX a red state or a blue state.
#966 Seattlegirl
“ICK! Well I am good with McCain. I feel bad for all of you Dems this must just make you sick to see your party in this corrupt light. I am so sorry for you and our country. I am only an Independent who votes Dem 75% of the time and so I am sickened by the situation but I always thought both parties were crooked so the only thing that surprises me is the tin ear of the BOites and how they are so obvious in their weaselly power grubbing behavior.
Hang in there gang we will defeat this pretender.
What is the deal for the BO coronation tomorrow? I hear there is a rock concert? He sure doesn’t grasp the seriousness of the situation. I guess he is too chicken to give a speech that people haven’t been bribed to attend. Just as the real reason he didn’t pick Hillary for VP is because she makes him look like a pretender when she is in the same place he is. What a bunch of dopes.”
Bump!
Treat yourselves to a break from the convention and catch “The Manning Report” by Rev. James David Manning. http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
Seems he’s really trying a credible, cogent news summary with enough commentary, and a few zingers to make it interesting, if not downright entertaining. (If you’ve watched him before, you’ll know what I mean.)
He called Hillary “The Golden Girl” (and really liked her pantsuit), with noticed the “code words” Hillary used in her quote from Harriet Tubman, the former slave who freed slaves (and one of my heroes). I know the Underground Railroad was know for such “code words”, as well as Spirituals or that time for freedom. I.e., Hillary will be looking at 2012.
I heard him state more fully perhaps what he’s said before – rock solid info that BO is homo/bi-sexual based on associations with TUCC, and Larry Sinclair figures in there, too. Q. What else can he reveal about it?
Meanwhile, you can stay tuned for Joe Biden’s speech, if you want to rally behind the Veep candidate. His bio is on now.
#948 Nadar did cost Gore the election in 2000, out of 97K votes he got in Florida 38% would have voted for Gore that is more then the 537 votes Gore “lost by”. Bush would have gotten 25% which still would have give Gore a lead.
Why isn’t RICHARDSON speaking tonight? What did I miss.
908 jenniforhillary …………… have I told you that I love you !!!
# 969 northern neighbor – not sure i can elaborate much more since it’s so early on in the process of regrouping, not to mention isn’t my blog. just thinking both from past experiences with organizations and common sense, it just seems that if we’re going to bite off something as big as trying to clean up the democratic party, expose them to the press, work to ensure obama isn’t elected, work on down ticket races, etc, etc, etc. that it might make sense to break down 1) specific goals, 2) identify people to sign up to focus on each of those goals, which would in essence be committees, and work in that way. that’s all i’ve got at this point. head still throbbing from the past two days….
Oh we can all celebrate NOW Biden has excepted the VP nomination.. Let us all scream in the streets now. NOT.
I miss Murphy and Maryland Puma and sandipuma and goandersen and antifish and all the other Pumas in Denver –
the battle continues – I hope and pray that something will happen to knock NOBO off his high horse, force feed him a high dose of reality and humility, get rid of all the trickery and paid agents and allow the real leader to step forward and lead us through a glorious 8 year turn.
#981 AlohaPUMA
I think the main demand made on Bill by the BO people was to say that. Hillary was criticised for not saying it.
#963 Middle age female …What time is the “coronation” tomorrow so I make sure I don’t watch BO make a complete fool of himself?…Interesting video of Rasmussen saying that Hillary should not have lost the nomination…
http://video.newsmax.com/?assetId=V2937966&s=al&promo_code=68A4-1
Nativegirl..welcome to the newly formed puma party……
well really welcome aboard.
WRT Roe v Wade, the bots might just be horrified when BO gets it overturned. I don’t trust him for one microsecond. FISA is just the tip of the iceberg.
Bots – don’t come around trying to scare me about McCain. BO is worse a million times over.
i’m ignorant about biden. i never heard of him until recently. what is his basic flaw or problem?
Please Pumas – do NOT let the Democratic Party sit back and laught that they have “separated and divided” us – there are still lots of things that we can do to stop this injustice by the Party and BO –
Check out each of your State requirements for the states submission of BO – MAYBE SOME OF THEM WILL BE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE – LOL
“When you see the abuse of power you must speak.”
Now thats funny.
916 scarlet
here, in texas, neither party has missed the deadline.
we are a red state ): ):
i know the democrats are going to try and make him look good. what is the real story with him?
#945 Vonay
#949 BrooklynNY
#970 bmw60
#976 ShinebrightHillary
Thank you so much for the Welcome… I am proud to serve with you all.
984 lisa on 08.27.08 at 10:19 pm
938 jody
yes! that!
I am waiting …jbjd has a post that I will post here when she gets it composed. Stay tuned, we might have some work to do in the morning.
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It would be much better if we could do this as an official prowl, sent out by the 3Ms or designees. It would be more organized, more consistent and many more could participate.
I know that time is critical… Is it possible for you to put it together as a suggested prowl and send to the 3Ms, stressing time constraints? I may be able to help with some stuff….. let me know. jbjd may still have my email address; if not i can email her…
#971 queen81 on 08.27.08 at 10:15 pm I will be watching a rerun of the L Word tomorrow night!
now, we’re talking….might have to dig out the DVD’s myself
978 4Hillary
You are not hearing what I am saying. Yes McCain is pro-life and is very much against abortion.
BUT………he believes each State should have their own laws, it should not be federally mandated. Just as with Gay Marriage……he is against it, but he believes it should be delt with at a State level, not Federal.
#978 4Hillary
I’m more worried about America being overturned than R.v.W
I will not be held hostage by threats to my uterus! IMO It’s a “weakness” that the DNC has used to prey on women for too long ……. “Do as we say or the big bad republicans will come and force you to bear children.”
This election has opened my eyes to a lot more than the DNC bargained for. I am determined to live free and pass that freedom along to my children and children’s children. What an opportunity this is to train them how to defend freedom when the torch is passed on!
I don’t know if this posted, I did this an hour ago?
left this at Heidi Li’s:
Thank you for your insight, Heidi. I already knew the roll call would be rigged in Obama’s favor. What I want to know is why would Hillary even ask for the roll call if she were going to give pledged delegates she earned to Obama? She had no right to give our votes away. This is not a catharsis for us. We are living in a third world country. Aren’t men dying in Iraq for democracy?
Do we have any recourse for a class action lawsuit against the DNC?
#875 OnlyHill on 08.27.08 at 9:47 pm # 648 Patty
You hit the nail on the head! The “issues” pendulum has been held over our heads by both monopolizing party’s, it’s an EITHER OR situation. Either you vote for a democrat who will protect the environment, women’s rights etc. OR you vote for a Republican who will allow the environment and women’s rights to be destroyed. Something is very wrong with this set up.
Tomorrow is a new day, night all you wonderful Pumas.
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the problem is that it is a lie and manipulation of ideas. Every issue has two sides. These simplified sound bits are used to manipulate us.
It turns out that the Republicans actually have a better record of supporting individual rights which has to include womens rights. But there is a subtle way of talking about it that allows the Dems to talk this way.
The Repubs are in favor of a strong economy by using the natural resources of the world. this can cause some problems but does not necessarily cause problems with the environment. The Dem stastement is an over simplification which has caused great harm to our country. We are so into environment that we are going bankrupt buying foreign oil.
There is a lot more to this. We have gone too far in polarizing issues. We need to find compromise which brings solutions which are the best for the country. Both polarized sides are wrong and no one is working to find the solutions.
For example it has been good for the environment to slow down drilling but we did not develop alternative forms of energy and now must drill to survive short term. The solution right now because we are in such trouble is to work on all forms of energy to survive the situation and hopefully dig out of the oil dependency. But that will take some time. Time we HAD BUT GAVE AWAY and now must fight for the time again.
Everything in America is based on win or lose. in court we win or lose. we have not learned how to get along by being friends with everyone. Look at what happens in Politics. It is one person wins and all others lose. that is silly. We should have all good people working together for the betterment of society. Instead we have people fighting against each other. We take polarizing positions and fight each other.
This fighting each other is the work of the EGO or the intellectual mind. It sees only separation.
Love which is God works together knowing we are all one.
So the basic problem you see is one of Separation and Love. The conflict of the EGO and Love which is God.
I’m concerned about the amount of back and forth about Roe v Wade. Can we assume we’re all adults and can decide for ourselves 1) which candidate we’ll support (if any), 2) the reasons we will, and 3) do so without having to suggest that someone else has overlooked something important? We’re at a juncture that could prove very divisive for us, and maybe, in the end, different factions will form. But, for now, it’s Murphy’s blog and her vision and she hasn’t changed it. I’d hate to see what has been for the most part a pretty cohesive group fracture in a matter of a day or so because emotions are high, opinions are intense, and it’s not yet clear how, or if, this pac will move forward after this point. Maybe we can just be on autopilot for a day or so. Just an idea.
#1002 4Hillary his biggest flaw is that he is BO’s running mate. I do not know much about him either they say he is a hot head, says what is on his mind and he was totally 100% for the war otherwise don’t know much about him watch Hannity and Colmes, Sean Hannity will tell you the truth about him.
#990 –
Texas has been known to flip-flop but generally comes up a red state.
1000 tennaseepuma
Thank you so much for the Welcome… I am proud to serve with all of you.
Jeez it’s a cleanex festival. What is with all the crying? Sob fest. Come on.
I voted for Joe Biden in 88. He is a little more hawkish that I would have thought Nobama would have picked
Vonay
Thank you and squish!
Maryland Puma, Aisan4hilary, mzebest your comments are taken with great appreciation.
Yes, we now need to move forward from here.
And I’m in it to win it.
After years of Dem Party voting, this will be my maiden voyage to the Red side in order to cast my vote for McCain–who, after doing much reading and research, appears to be an honorable man, as is his wife.
I truly believe if he weren’t, Senator Clinton wouldn’t have made her public statements regarding their friendship and similar loyalties to this Country during the last months. So come November, I will most definitely be voting for the Man, not the Party.
Maryland Puma & Murphy and all you Pumas down there, breathe, count to ten, and get some well-deserved sleep–for we have yet begun to fight.
When did this happen and why? I just e-mailed jbjd
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mcr on 08.27.08 at 8:28 pm
#396 jody in florida
Unfortunately, jbjd he is no longer with us. He was ousted by the admin. This makes me very sad.
I liked him until 3 days ago!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbdutAlyIBo
995 Anna7000
I agree with your suggestions and we should try to implement them when it is time.
Take care of your headache in the meantime
But won’t that hurt McCain also? I forget – is TX a red state or a blue state.
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I only posted this as an example of what is possible–a candidate can be taken off a state ballot and therefore cannot be voted on by the citizens of that state.
I can’t believe she is sitting around crying mo mute the sound and watch the actors
redraz9 he said he wants it overturned. sorry, but i am against that. even at a state level. no offense meant by that.
I thought I posted #1022 around 8:30. In any event, I e-mailed Ricki Lieberman about a class action lawsuit and this is what she said:
The courts have consistently held that the party gets to make and enforce its own rules except in case of racial etc discrimination…
MURPHY, YOU’VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE POSTS, IT TAKES 7-8 TIMES.
Ed Rendell crying like a baby
993 deenj,
Why isn’t RICHARDSON speaking tonight? What did I miss.
I think he got slap in the face by Bill! And it hurst, Richardson should know that, he is “Judas”.
McCain deosn’t scare me ….Obama has had plenty of time to prove he had integrity and honor anmd has failed imensley there for I have no respect for him…. Joe Biden is a good man, however he is not on the top of the ticket, and he has an honor and integrity and I respect him for that. He has a legacy in this country that can not be weakened….
916 scarlet
texas election code law
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/el.toc.htm
(2) before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential
election day, the party’s state chair signs and delivers to the
secretary of state a written certification of:
#1023 What happened?
Fox announcing: “ELVIS is in the building.” LOL.
Well, they didn’t say “ELVIS”……. That’s just me.
wow! more than 1000 posts in 4 hours. a talkative bunch are we.
wow! more than 1000 posts in 4 hours. a talkative bunch are we.
#1030 kids1627….Many more democrats will be crying come November!!
#981 alohapuma on 08.27.08 at 10:18 pm
“I would have been Ok with Bill’s speech if he hadn’t said, BO is ready to be President. The message that we need to put a Democrat in the White House is palpable, but BO ready???”
I think Bill was saying that NOBama is ready because he:
1. Locked the delegates inside their rooms and write out their votes. Reminded me of a bad jury duty I had to serve on.
2. Like Jury Duty, no one leaves the room until the decision is unamimous. ( I would like to have had a web cam hidden in one of those rooms to see if some $$$ was being passed around)
3. So, ready with the number of behind the door votes and delegate count.
4. And ready to complete this mockery so he (Bill) could get out of there.
Bill has a new chapter in his life. NOBama has a Biden.
leaving for now. take care all.
I must get some sleep… I will see you all in the morning. After all… tomorrow is a new day!!!
CARRIE & TIGRESSE: There will always be a revered place
for you here. Those people who are constantly telling us that we need to vote for McCain are the ones that are out of order and I a am certain that they will be warned that it is not allowed by the PAC rules to advocate for a certain candidate.
jody in Florida re: prowl
I can certainly try to send it to the 3M’s for approval, but so far I haven’t had success contacting them on anything. I think they are pretty preoccupied with Denver stuff.
Please email jbjd if you think you can help. Or when we get some news, maybe you can have better luck with the 3M’s.
I am still waiting for the post anyway.
That was short applause??
Oh what?
” I would like to thank the academy….”
Oh thats right remind us she is better than you.
Oh man this is weeeek.
We have to lose this election to save this election and really win in 2012.
#1030 kids1627 why is Ed Rendell crying and what does this mean
I can’t believe she is sitting around crying mo mute the sound and watch the actors
– What Bill said tonight:
”We all have to get behind Obama, blah, blah, blah……
– What Bill said last night (which is how he really feels):
“Suppose for example you’re a voter. And you’ve got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don’t think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues, but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver. For whom would you vote?”
** Which is the candidate that is not prepared nor qualified to be president and therefore can’t effectively deliver on most of his promises?
(see article on what Bill said last night: http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/bill-clinton-in-denver-again-undercuts-obama-2008-08-26.html )
Why and Orange Pantsuit? (The guys are talking about it again)
http://ncrcafe.org/node/2020
Just spotted this on LA Times “news messiah/Biden don’t want to see on the day of Biden’s acceptance speech for VP.” Links Biden’s brother and his son Hunter to investment in firm that lobbied Biden.
Not good PR at all…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080828/pl_politico/20080;_ylt=AqcRCE63A71xRoARthXq_OR6xJ14
Hello Pumas,
I just watched Bill Clinton’s speech and listened a little to some reactions.
My first comment is: Murphy, change the quote in the header to say “going” instead of “running” because it is a misquote of Hillary Clinton’s paraphrased quote of Harriet Tubman. I mentioned it at the top of the posts, and I hope it is not being repeated to press.
Secondly, Bill Clinton did something remarkable tonight. He did the same as Hillary last night. On a grand scale, they both showed our country and the world: YOU CANNOT EFFING blame the Clinton’s when Barack Obama loses, and CLEARLY Hillary for President was right, and Bill for First Spouse was RIGHT!!!
John McCain has a big job at the Republican National Convention. McCain has already proven that he has experience and he can lead and he loves our country.
McCain & Republicans: You better let it be known what you can offer the poor, the working class, and the middle class. You better offer something for women and all of us as well.
I am glad the Democratic National Convention preceded the RNC show, and it’s because they need to KNOW what we want. We understand (in general) that republicans are tough on National Security, and hold a special connection with religious sorts. OK, so republicans have the fight against terror, the focus on national security, and the sanctity of life.
We know all this. You BETTER adjust to the times, McCain. Be different, you know what to show, the color GREEN, and get people talking about global warming, and what are you going to do about getting more women in office during your presidency?
You Republicans better know, you have a gigantic chance to gather millions of votes, and you better re-define some of YOUR issues come republican convention.
Don’t make it SUCK to vote for McCain.
Don’t make it be a SACRIFICE for Pumas to vote for you.
Many of us will support McCain.
Many of us should be shrewd and not give away our vote for free, EVEN IF he already gets our votes.
If we can negotiate MORE for PUMAS and like minded democrats and more, let’s let them KNOW what we want!!!
The Clinton’s are FREE.
It’s ALL ON OBAMA now. As it should be.
I am looking forward to 2012.
Good nite, Pumas, am going to bed.
Boy~ listening to Bill tonight…what a speaker. I had musings of Hill being the candidate, and me still voting dem, and Bill on my side. What a glorious feeling that would have been.
He will be an awesome foe for all NObama, that’s for sure. But, I can’t go along with him. Perhaps in 4 years, but for all the reclaimed connection he gained tonight, he really lost millions of us.
I don’t think they can pull it out.There is just too much distrust of Obama, and the hatred on MO face this time when any clinton was on stage, was directed to all of us as well. I cannot trust them to care about me and my loved ones.
It’s a sad day. But all beginnings are painful. Mom’s you guys know that!!!
I’m getting hooked on this one:
NObama/Nobiden/November?No never
try #9
#1043 lisa on 08.27.08 at 10:33 pm
I was just thinking that if we had everything all set up and ready to send out (i.e., the 3Ms wouldn’t have to do anything but send it), we might have more luck. You know, letter, list, instructions, etc.
I’m remaining a PUMA because we have a larger fight ahead.
I think it’s time for a drink, everybody. Something to numb it a bit. Or pet a real kitty, or tickle a baby.
We have a huge mission to demand honor back in our voting process, and it’s going to take tons of energy to accomplish this.
Peace
good night everyone. and for all of you who were so sweet and held me up during the roll call, a huge hug. you have no idea how much it meant. truly got me through. now i just have the post-migraine walking around in a haze feeling. maybe it’s good – body and mind’s way of protecting itself from too much intensity.
Yeah Jody – just think if that was a prowl what action we would have taken 1000 posts within an hour
1028 4Hillary
Ok….I am out of the abortion discussion.
I am against abortion, but think a woman has the right to make the decision for herself. I do not support any of their views because they are all onesided.
ALL I was trying to do was say that person was not a bot just because he was speaking the truth.
good night Anna.
good night ladyhawke, sweet dreams.
Sounded like the Nobama camp wrote Bill’s speech. Obama is not ready to lead diddly squat except terrorist appeasing groups.
Biden, boringggg!! :0(
SNORE!
Wow they got real problems.
Obama’s quest for power is not more important than our right to vote!
We’re MAD AS HELL and we’re not gonna take it anymore!
John McCain ’08 Hillary ’12
redraz9 – glad you just posted. saw your other post up thread and wanted to say thank you. just because someone challenges an opinion doesn’t automatically make them a troll.
ok, night all…
jody in Florida
Yes… wouldn’t that be nice! (being sarcastic here! LOL)
I have no idea what she is working on, and I am just sitting here waiting to see so that I can turn my computer off and go to bed. Hopefully when she comes up with something we can get it organized, approved, and gussied up quickly.
I appreciate the offer of help. email jbjd and see what she has going on.
Here’s something to read about Hillary….:mrgreen:
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/8/27/hillary-clintons-speech-was-a-good-start-on-her-2012-run.html
good night Anna7000.;; …. close your weary eyes and sleep peacefully…. wake tomorrow with the roar of a PUMA……
I loved your comment kat……….. it was inspiring…. we must continue this fight to the end!!!
Goodnight Anna
Beca4Hillary,
Biden, boringggg!! :0(
Just why messiah picked him – so he can look good! :>)
#1053 Lin4Hill wrote:
“I’m remaining a PUMA because we have a larger fight ahead.
I think it’s time for a drink, everybody. Something to numb it a bit.”
Good idea and changing channel. TCM take me away.
Good night.
My Computer just went dead and it took me this long to get back. We were talking about abortion rights by states, or at least I was. So here is one place to check out abortion rights by state. I am sure there are many others. The point is IF Roe v Wade is overturned your right to reproductive choice still comes to you through your state in many places. And yes I am pro choice and I think we need to start working on reproductive rights law state by state. But right now you rights do not depend ONLY on Roe v Wade, that is a manipulative lie the Dems have been using for ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
OMG, Biden boy!, no wonder he only got 9,000 votes, oh come on, Hillary got 18 million, this guy is a joke!
The R vs W thing,
if y’all were having the hot flashes and night sweats that I’m having, it wouldn’t be at the front of your mind, either.
(okay – take that lightly – I’m flashing
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Why am I crying again? I thought I was done with that…… I guess it means that Hope is still alive. Truth and Love are still alive. If they were not, tears would avail us nothing…….
night to all pumas signing off
They aren’t hot flashes they are power surges!
Now is the time to sit back and think for a few minutes, then to put together some goals way beyond this election. There are a large number of people out there right now, some of them Hillary delegates, who are feeling very disoriented and disconnected. These people, and the people in other organizations such as ours, are dangling and in need of some positive way to move forward.
I believe the PUMA group and all the others need to form a coalition to fill this void. And there really is a void in American politics today. At this point neither party meets our expectations. It is time that we define those expectations and set about to meet them.
Am I advocating the forming of a new party? Maybe. But I think we all know what we stand for, and who we are as individuals. Whether we form a new party or just a huge group that uses its influence to make change, we have made a good start toward something very positive.
Never More,
Just why messiah picked him – so he can look good! :>),
You are right, and Biden sounds like he is a fake kising his @ss
The Democratic Party has left us! It has been taken over by corrupt, power hungry politicians.
They silenced our voices in Florida and Michigan and denied our right t vote. Superdelegates accepted cash bribes from Obama in exchange for endorsements and superdelegate votes!
We can no longer fight for the Democratic Party because it no longer exists! We must fight for America and our freedoms and punish the Democrats corrupt leadership for silencing our voice and denying our rights!
This is America, not Obama’s personal dictatorship!
OK I threw myself into making myself some yard signs in my cafe press so I feel better now lol. I will have a cool yard! and my house will prolly get egged….
kat in your hat
If we can negotiate MORE for PUMAS and like minded democrats and more, let’s let them KNOW what we want!!!
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I really like your idea. We should send emails to the Republicans telling them what we want. That will help us get what we want. Excellent idea.
WE are PUMA.
I want a choice I can believe in – We need a Third Party how about THE UNITY PARTY.
Hillary 2012!
Just wanted to say thank you…each and everyone of you. You have kept a candle of democracy alive and I will stand steadfast by you. My heart has been cringing through this entire convention and when I feel I’ve woken in an alternate universe…you all are here! TG. Deepest gratitude…god ty.
Ronan
Biden is resorting to nothing but McCain bashing. He’s being a good little Obamabot. Boring me to death. Listening to this is like listening to a broken record. I muted the sound. The loopheads are at it again.
jajajaja, Change, Change, Change, Change, show me the freaking change!! Obama knows it, since when Biden? Hillary knows, 35 years working for the American people, while Obambi was in college and then hagging around anti-Americans and Ayers, yada, yada, yada, I am tired..
#1069 Seattlegirl
I probably posted #1011 while your computer was off. But I agree. Enough of the manipulation!
McCain ’08!
I think what makes this whole thing the hardest is that just one time I would have liked to have voted for the candidate that I Wanted to Win….rather than vote against the one I Don’t Want to win..
I can’t believe that Biden was asked over Hillary for veep!! Unbelievable!!
His speech compared to her speech says volumes. Blah, blah, blah. I can’t stand it anymore. TV off.
Pastor Manning on Obama – If you can, listen to the whole thing – A lot of info at the end!
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
THE UNITY PARTY…..I dunno….. sounds a little like being offered a ride on the “unity pony”. Leaves a bad taste w/ me.
I heard Bill O’Reilly talking about Biden and saying he was getting ready to retire. I think that is why they chose him to be the VP sacrifice to the historic BO nomination.
I see why I never really liked Biden….he is boring!!!
Tomorrow the battle begins!!
Go Pumas!!
Love you Bill and Hillary!!! We have losers running for the Democratic Party!! I would easily take 4 years of McCain over 1 day of Obama!!!!
Now I feel better about the Dem party – NOT instead of Universal Health Care – Bo is going to give us 2000 tax credit towards it. My family policy cost 17K – I have to pay 35% of that out of my paycheck and I can’t afford it – 2K isn’t going to help me much.
Hillary 2012. Starting now.
How much does BOJO plan on spending protecting Georgia, fighting terrorism in Afganistan, and protecting Isreal from Iran….
I can just picture the Republicans next week making fun of Biden..
1078 liloleme
ROLF………mine started about a year ago
I sure do wish they would go away!
I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life. But this year, I am voting for my country first, and voting to fight the corruption in the Democratic Party. They must be punished for denying our rights!
If we allow them to use these stong arm tactics to gain power, America will never again have a fair election!
Down with Obama!
McCain ’08!
Hillary ’12!
I just listened to David Manning. Well….he did make a good point.
Obama has never made a million dollar decision. The only thing that comes close is the purchase of his home, which was likely a Rezko decision.
He’s never run a company, or a department. Only his senate offices.
I’m sure the DNC wanted Bill to say that he was ready to lead, but it puts a pit in my stomach to hear him say it.
Thing is…he’s not ready to lead. The leadership is in the people behind him.
Right now, I feel like I’ve entered an altered Universe. Time to take a hot bath and sleep….
I’ll think about it tomarrah!
Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
We need to start fighting for Hillary now! She earned it! She deserves it!
Don’t let them get away with this!
Stop Obama!
Hillary 2012!
Obama!!!!!!! Yuck gagging!!!!!!!!!!
I propose an organizational meeting, either in cyber space or in person, with all of the bloggers and all of the groups that have joined with us in this quest. A coalition of us could define an extended purpose, lay down our coalition goals, and even adopt coalition bylaws. We could elect officers and form networks.
I am so over the democrats as they are today. I saw the truth about the party and its corruption, and I cannot live with it until major reform takes place. I am not sure it will.
I don’t think I would be a good republican. I have too many major differences with them. Nader is too radical the other direction.
What we need is a centrist bent with progressive/liberal goals. Health care, balanced budget, economic goals, peace initatives, education, gay rights, abortion rights, civil rights, and more should be included in our manifesto.
How about it PUMAs? Can we do it?
At this point we have to concentrate on blocking Obama and all of his cronies. But when we get rid of them, we have to find people to replace them with. I think there are some PUMA members who would make excellent choices.
BO just showed up at the Convention…….
1075 Henerietta
I’m sick of the far right and the far left, special interests, and corporations having so much influence over politics.
Let’s form a coalition of people from all parties who are in the middle (the MAJORITY)
Push for fair elections, ethical politicians, and common sense in government.
BTW, Bill is appearing at the 92nd St Y in Manhattan on Sept 28th.
In the first of a series of conversations focused on the themes of his new book, Philanthrocapitalism: How the Rich Can Save the World, Matthew Bishop of The Economist hosts former U.S. President Bill Clinton in a one-on-one discussion about The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) and the role that philanthropy plays in addressing the world’s pressing challenges.
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 8:00pm at the 92nd Street Y
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I bought my ticket this afternoon. Can’t wait to attend! I consider it a gift from the gods, reminding me that the good works of the Clintons go on, no matter what destruction the Democratic Party inflicts on the country and the world by their evil, ugly deeds.
The audacity of demonology
I just threw up a little in my mouth. Gag – Michele told the kids there was a surprise guest and not he is the surprise guest again. He should give his speech and free up TV for tomorrow. I’m going to bed now anyway, that would work for me.
Good night Pumas tomorrow is another day.
This just is more proof of the mendacity of what you are seeing. I only watched Hillary’s speech and Bills. (Live stream on computer). So, from what I saw, especially Hillary’s speech last night–a charged room and whipping the crowd into excitement while MilleMichelle moped and pouted—good energy and setting the tone for the REAL CHANGE and REAL HOPE. You guys watching are experiencing BARACK-lag, BARACK-stall, BIDEN-bore, and BAMA-burnout. Save yourself and turn it off. We deserve better quality to feel our time with. Don’t forget! TVLand lineup is cool on Thursdays!
Y’all, excuse me a minute. Bo just walked on stage. I have to go tee-tee.
1116 YesSheCan:
I agree and know I am ready for a party that reflects Amercia. I’m in!
#1116 YesSheCan on 08.27.08 at 10:56 pm
Absolutely, Yes. I’m completely with you on that idea.
The constant reading, by some people, into the expressions of Mrs. Obama is really getting tiresome and very boring. There is no need to make personal remarks about Mrs. Obama just because you don’t like her. I watched her expressions last night and certainly did not see what some of you saw. I thought she was taking it very seriously and was reflecting on what she heard. Again tonight. She was very appreciative of what President Clinton was saying. Those tiresome personal remarks are more a sign of immaturity.
i am hanging in there with PUMA. We need to stick together. GO MCCAIN.
Bo is speaking like a preacher after Biden. The crowd just does not cheer for him or any of the others the way they did for either of the Clintons.
1108 redraz9
I hate it, but, they’re like a nightmare. They go on forEVER!
1114 Henerietta
I agree.
wanted to drop in quickly!!! all my friends are now PUMAs.. that whole convention was a sham…
we are voting mccain.. !!!!!! yes experience does matter… and we will vote hillary in 2012
Obama has only barely 150 days in the US Senate
pretty much all my friends are now deregistering from the Undemocratic Party.. it no longer believes in basic democracy..
President Mccain ’08
President Hillary clinton ’12
thank you daurragh for all you do! we are all with you.
#1124 Lilibet
There was no mistaking that Michelle looked like she was trying to swallow a toad the whole time Hillary Clinton was speaking. Either she is ignorant or rude.
Song: “We are family”, jajaja, what an emotional convention, they are really trying to unify the party, they know they have big problems.
#1124 lilibet on 08.27.08 at 10:59 pm
Sorry, Lilibet. I didn’t see Michelle Obama’s behavior either night at all the way you see it. I find the woman revolting. It is not a sign of immaturity. It is reality. That is my opinion. I would appreciate it if you do not denigrate me, or anyone else, for expressing our reactions. I would not do that of yours. Sometimes the truth hurts and it’s not always pretty; however I do prefer it to the alternatives.
#1093 lol-What? The UNITY Party? I don’t get it!
Hillary is not through IF we can get the goods on bo. There is a clause in the rules about how to replace the nominee in the event of death, resignation, or inability to serve. We need to find that reason to force bo to resign the nomination or get him in jail so he can’t serve. If we truly want to show the party we are a force to be reckoned with, we need to work to take back this party. bo’s nomination is built on a stack of cards. We need to be the wind that blows him away!!!
I couldn’t take it..I watched Bill then switched to Law and Order
Come November, lets wear RED when we go to the polls.
1130 Headclunker on 08.27.08 at 11:02 pm
There was no mistaking that Michelle looked like she was trying to swallow a toad the whole time Hillary Clinton was speaking. Either she is ignorant or rude.
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I’m going with rude. (a TOAD? lol)
earlier someone mentioned a drink, and someone else mentioned a bath –
well, i am going to put 1 + 1 together and go do both simultaneouly – night pumas.
I’m a Republican from CT. I left Vietnam in ’75 from a country that have no rights. In other words, a country that BO would be ruling. I am deathly afraid of what might happen. I need to know what I can do to help stop OB in CT since they’re voting overwhelmingly for him.
Republican or not, I was so angry to see the way Hillary was treated. She gave a great speech yesterday and I was truly proud of her. I got a little emotional seeing her supporters cry when she got on the stage.
#1124 Lilibet Its nothing personal but I really don’t think she looks very hapy. That is just my opinion. You are maybe correct ..I know i wasnt happy when I went over to the Obama blog last nite and they were calling Hillary the pumpkin lady and a few other choice things i wont repeat here
#1114 Henerietta-
we need a new centrist party.
I have a headache and am hosting a jewelry party tomorrow night so I have something to do and not watch the calamity that is sure to be.
But come Friday, I am all about a new party.
1135 Caracal Carrie on 08.27.08 at 11:05 pm
I couldn’t take it..I watched Bill then switched to Law and Order
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Now how’s that for contrast: The DNC vs. Law and Order. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm………
1136 taylorgrob1 on 08.27.08 at 11:05 pm Come November, lets wear RED when we go to the polls.
Why RED?
Lmfao…..Lilbet….
I think the experience thing is going to be a little tough for people to believe. After all this campaigning I still dont know his accomplishments. You must have to have something to offer
Jody
ROFLMAO
Had to have some Law and Order somewhere in the day cause I darn sure didn’t get it from the DNC
#1114 I AGREE We need a new party.. How about “The Womens Party” They have this in Iceland. Everyone is part of it. Obama is no progressive– on the contrary, he is conservative.
Any puma’s groups, or site supporting John McCain please let us know in our comment section. Thanks to the many of you who have already
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
22 LuckysevenI hate to repeat this, but I cannot help it. To quote a friend of mine who just said to me “For the first time in my life, I am not proud to be an American!”
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There are a lot of things wrong with the people in charge who lead this country, but …I will never utter those words. I will remain Proud to be an American because it is more than a corrupt DNC, it is more than a candidate unqualified to be nominated.
I will remain a Proud American in spite of the Bush administration, in spite of the corruption in politics, in spite of the sexism, in spite of the hurt and disheartened feelings I am experiencing today. Our soldiers have endured far worse and they still hold their heads up, carry their weapons and stand in the line of fire to protect this great Nation. I will as the soldiers do, defend this Nation. One Nation Under God in devisible with Liberty and Justice for all. We are not a perfect union, but we are and will always remain a union of faith, hope and love.
I will NOT let the DNC, Barrack Obama or anyone take that away from me. This is ONE election, whatever happens, we have the faith to believe we can make it better, we have the hope to stand up and speak out for the misjustice and we have the love to give us the courage to continue as a United nation to be strong and not allow our Pride be taken away from us.
Okay..its over for me..what is our next course of action?? I will vote Mccain in November..making sure my one vote will NOT benefit *61 in any way, shape or form..
OK emotionally tapped out..
Nite yall
Orange pantsuits–the new PUMA uniform
1124 lilibet
I agree to personal insults are not a good choice.
I find MO extremely difficult to watch because she is one of the least likeable national figures of my lifetime. I believe she is quit shallow and angry. I had a strong negative reaction to her even before Obama appeared to be a real contender for the nomination.
That said, the socialist and entitled posturing of her messages is more relevant to our concerns. If (God forbid) she does become First Lady, she will be fodder for a lot of criticism.
#1114 Henerietta
To start, we need a better blogging situation, sort of like cyberspace private rooms where we can hold conferences and things like that. Having to copy and paste 3 times with each comment is a little time consuming! There is sooo much to do!
3rd time trying to post:
All this celebrating on stage must be so hard for the Clintons to watch! I bet they’re dying inside. Good thing they’re extremely polished at being public figures to sit through this act! I’d love to be a fly on the wall during their conversations once they leave there tonight!
4hill–I TOTALLY AGREE!!
When I see MO I see the epitome of Rev. Wright, Rev. Pflegger and Trinity Church all wrapped up in one. I see a woman who accepted and Affirmative Action scholarship and then wrote a thesis on how whites and blacks should never live together because whitey always wants to subjugate blacks. I see a woman who STRIVES to be powerful to hurt those she imagines have slighted her…
but MOST OF ALL I see a BITCH who took her PRECIOUS angel girls to Trinity Church so they too could be hatefilled little OBOTS….
Sorry, but the day that woman sets foot in MY WHITE HOUSE I will leave this country….and you can quote me on this!
Good night everyone!
Disco…we have MANY male PUMAs on this site and they are angry as well! Their rights and voices were taken away as well. We need to show the democratic party what democracy is. They seem to have forgotten. WE ARE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, and of course bo and the rest of their group need to go form their own party! They are NOT fit to be a part of ours!!!!
I know who my family is and “we” doesn’t speak for me. I am not his/her/their family. Liars again! Also, regarding “Mrs. Obama”—My reflections and reflections of MY FAMILY and other “VIEWERS” had opinions that were NOT IN LINE of “reflections of thoughts” or “taking interest to ideas being spoken. Appreciated your take, though lilbet.
Taylorgrob, #14. Great post! I remember you from the Hillary site during the Primaries.
I’ve been an ardent supporter of Hillary from the beginning, campaigned heavily for her and donated hundreds dollars to her campaign. I really think that this roll call vote and the whole convention has been a joke. I was expecting the democratic leaders to at least emphasize what a historic campaign this has been for women.
I am not falling in line. I’m now switching from Democrat to Independent and will vote for McCain in November. I’m not telling anyone how to vote and I respect every PUMA’s decision, but I really believe the best way to defeat Obama is by voting for his opponent, John McCain.
Stand Strong & Stand Tall, united we have strength and power….divided we fall….Remember the goal is to not to vote for Obama. That is the only agreement the PUMA PAC has made….You are intitled to do with your vote what ever you choose to do….We need not coherse any one to vote the way we choose to vote….One Vote, One Person….
#1152 Amarissa on 08.27.08 at 11:11 pm
#1114 Henerietta
To start, we need a better blogging situation, sort of like cyberspace private rooms where we can hold conferences and things like that. Having to copy and paste 3 times with each comment is a little time consuming!
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Last time I checked, pumaparty.com had a lot of software facilities free for all PUMAs to use. Clintondems has private ‘diaries’ too iirc, and that webmaster, Pam Hamilton, used to have another site that was used as a private discussion area by posters from hillaryis44.org
I understand Bill is going to become very busy tomorrow and I think Hillary will need a vacation after tomorrow night.. The positive side is that they have done their part and now Obama must be the convincer. He must learn to talk to common people like me. I just don’t think he’s able to do that. The warmth just doesnt seem to be there and I dont believe that you can fake that.
hey all — ready to collapse back in my own bed.
feel free to reost upstairs!
take it upstairs!!
goodnite pumas
you guys continually amaze me
WE STOOD UP FOR DEMOCRACY
WE’LL ALWAYS STAND FOR DEMOCRACY
always believe in Karma
time will reveal all
it’s our job to make sure america pays attention
i must go to sleep..I feel horrible…
but, thanks to puma, and as Scarlett once said, Tomorrow is another day!!
DOWN WITH OBOTS…DOWN WITH DNC….GO PUMAS!!!
I can’t keep up with all the quick posts tonight, so I’m sure someone’s been saying this already — But the expressions on Michelles face tonight were sure a LOT different than last night! She’s obviously NOT a good actor & was obviously very unhappy, ungracious during Hillary’s wonderful speech last night!
1139 rtr4hill , If you choose to visit the Pro Obot sites, expect to hear criticism, vulgarity and mean spiritedness. I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would want to go see what they are saying on those sites. And it does not help in any way bringing back to this site what they are saying. We don’t need to repeat their hate.
It’s like deciding to take a peek into He!!, already knowing what you are going to find.
1114- Henrietta I agree we should organize but wouldn’t we be more powerful IN the Dem Party than a third party? I don’t know if starting another party will work fast enough for me. I feel frustrated that on this site we are constrained from “campaigning” for the obvious most effective action to PUNISH the power thugs in our Party! Please, Murphy, unleash the PUMAS!
1161 rtr4hill on 08.27.08 at 11:16 pm I understand Bill is going to become very busy tomorrow and I think Hillary will need a vacation after tomorrow night.. The positive side is that they have done their part and now Obama must be the convincer. He must learn to talk to common people like me. I just don’t think he’s able to do that. The warmth just doesnt seem to be there and I dont believe that you can fake that.
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I agree with what you say. And I am going to need a vacation too after all this. Me and my hubby are going away for the Labor day week end. NO computers and NO politics. AAHHHHHHHH….
I think all PUMAs should give their selves permission to take a break. Everything will be here after you come back.
This has been like watching a Greek tragedy. It wasn’t enough for Pelosi the manipulator and power seeker and Brazile, Reid, and Dean to take the nomination and election away from Hillary Clinton, by skullduggery; their purpose has been to take the party away and crush Hillary Clinton and break her and do the same to Bill Clinton in order to erase any authority they would have with democrats and to diminish the Clintons in the memory of the people.
What goes around comes around and the DNC and Obama deserve nothing less than instant rude Karma.
#1160 turndownobama
When Murphy, Maryland and Mamapuma come back I am sure this will be discussed because we are growing, we’re together and we have a job to do! So… we need better facilities. I think the blog radio has been very good because we can hear our leaders and their guests and also chat at the same time (it’s crazy, but we do it LOL). PUMA is my Party now and I’ll cry here if I want to!
1167 normapapuma :—-Don’t let your frustration bring you down to their standard…. Demand that they come up to your standards…. Or you become one of them….
UPSTAIRS!!!
Maybe I am just very tired and I do have a bad cold of some sort. But I’m not sure what I’m feeling. I know that I don’t want to feel anger or hatred. I am not called to that.
I lean more toward reconciliation and compromise. These ARE changing times. Desperate times and people truly are struggling.
I have been one who didn’t like MO and can’t say that I really do now. but I saw her crying tonight as Biden’s son spoke about the loss of his Mother and how his Father stood by him and his brother and noticed that I was crying, too.
Much of what Bill Clinton said, also seemed to make sense. When he finished I was left with a feeling that, ok~~~we fought a good fight, like Hillary did, but this time our side did not prevail. If I really believe that my country comes before party, just exactly defines that at this point? To me, I mean.
In many other areas of my life I have come to learn that acceptance is the answer to all my problems.
Whenever I find some person, place, thing, or situation unacceptable to me, I can find no peace, no serenity or peace of mind until I accept that person, place, thing or situation as being just exactly the way it is supoosed to be this moment. There is a God, a higher power and it isn’t me. The world does not revolve around me and i don’t control anything but me, and that not very well.
Here, as members of PUMA we have learned to put ourdifferences aside, accept one another as we are and work for a common cause.
Tonight I’m wondering if I’m big enough to do it again, for the sake of the country and stop fighting.It really looks like we are going to see our first black president in America. Like others, I so want to see a WOMAN elected POTUS in my lifetime. But progress is progress and my own parents didn’t live to see either one.
Ok, I am tired. and i am sick. And these are my thoughts tonight as I say good night.
May the Creator bless you all with all good things in life.
Lets be mindful of the rules and refrain from vulgarity.
Joe Biden might be able to talk to the “kitchen table” or whatever other terms they give to the working class, but Joe Biden is not running for President, it’s Obama and he can’t because he eats Arugula and most people eat plain lettuce!
I am responding to Candy C in CNN!
#1088 and 1114 Henrietta…I agree. Once some of us get past all of the emotional aspect of watching this sham of an UN democratic convention and election cycle…then maybe we can get on to the business of formulating a NEW PARTY.
Like you said we have the elements necessary. We need to turn our anger, disappointment, disillusionment and disgust into the ferver and passion to work for justice, truth and honesty in politics….addressing fraudlent practices in both parties. I feel our basic democratic rights have been sorely violated. I am willing to fight on. But it must be a consolidated effort of all the JSND groups.
OUR VOICES HAVE ONLY BEGUN TO BE RAISED. OUR SPIRITS ARE CRYING OUT IN THE WILDERNESS. THIS IS OUR HOME NOW. WE ARE PUMAS!!! WE WILL CARRY ON.WE WILL BE HEARD. WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!!
Yes, I will remember in November and McCain will get my vote…but it is a protest vote only.
Michelle Obama and her husband are resentful and jealous of the Clintons because the Clintons are what they pretend to be. They are both decievers. Obama could not win the nomination honestly so his historic nomination is just a shame.
How come Michelle does not talk about her high dollar job at the hospital? I heard it was because she was in charge of getting rid of all the charity patients.
“Hospital Administration”.
I was born and grow up democrat but for the first time in my life I would not vote democrat, I’ll be voting for Mccain, I don’t care he is republican, The only think I really care is making sure I’ll not vote for NObama , -NOway NOhow NObama-
New Party, I do not know. I rather favor getting a democratic process in place and getting ready for the next election.
You cannot change the mind of a person whose mind is made up. We have made up our minds to say NOBAMA!!!
well, after watching this for 3 nights now, if it is all just a big orchestrated show, it is one heck of a production. i can’t wait to see what the republicans put together.
bush and cheney have been good at promoting fear, but i think people are tired of being afraid.
regardless of our individual beliefs as, republicans, democrats or republicrats, i am proud to be an american. we don’t have a perfect system but i wouldn’t trade it for any other.
No Hillary. No way. Nobama.
http://www.hellnobama.com
goodnight puma’s………..love you all….. except for the trolls
I thought that some of you might be interested in the comments of one reader on the article by Micheal Barone which was referred to us by Aisian.
My Viewe
I supported Hillary in the Florida primary, which was discounted by the DNC and given to Obama. I watched Hillary go from the wicked witch of the west to the girl next door you would die to protect. McCain wins in the fall and will have a disaster for four years as a new COLD WAR returns. The Iraq war will continue through out the four years and the economy will continue to tank. Folks a repeat of the dark ages will seem to exist throughout the entire world. The budget deficit will grow as McCain pushes for tax breaks for multinational corporations and trade offs for middle-class programs to get this done will be passed. Obama will fade away and be forgotten before the next elections. The reality of youth voters not turning out will finally be accepted and in future elections discounted as unreliable and again ignored.
In 2012 Hillary will run almost unopposed in the primary and be elected by a very large margin in the general election. McCain will not be on the ballot .The congress will be divided yet the mandate of her election will bring the most cooperation in decades.
#1148 DiscoPuma
“#1114 I AGREE We need a new party.. How about “The Womens Party” They have this in Iceland. Everyone is part of it. Obama is no progressive– on the contrary, he is conservative.”
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I have to comment that Obama is not a progressive (for whatever the H*ll that stands for)… nor is he a conservative… nor is he a liberal. He’s a radical and more specifically a marxist. A Black Liberation Theologist Marxist which is even more radical than a regular marxist (if there is such a thing as a more radical marxist). LOL!
Love the trolls, for they know not what they do.
NOBAMA! NO-WAY, NEVER!!!!!! I second that!
Hey, did anyone notice during that sham of a role-call vote earlier today – that when Nancy Pelosi said at the end, “All in favor”?…”All opposed”?… She did NOT even pause for a second after the “all opposed”! She just plowed right through to say “Ok, it’s all done then” (or something similar). Guess she was too scared of the “opposed” yell-outs she would have received if she paused long enough to allow anyone to actually respond! After all, that wouldn’t show unity, and it would wrecked their carefully calculated/manipulated plans to make sure B.O. was the nominee!
Now there’s some real democracy in action!…LOL…I think not! Fraud-Fraud-Fraud-Fraud!!!
What a HUGE joke this whole thing was! Just Sickening! And the worst part is that it’s all taken place right under the noses of all American’s, the media, etc.,…with us being the only one’s to call them out! Truly hard to believe!!!!
Supreme court justice John Roberts has already stated that he considers in the case of Roe v. Wade precedent has already been established and he doesn’t intend to revisit it. He is head of the current supreme court and I believe him.
Please pass this on…
My personal opinion is that the government has much more control with Roe v. Wade in place than without it. Abortions are never going to stop regardless, so with this ruling they have struck the best possible balance and don’t intend to mess with it.
#899 Jeremy
The Greek Temple is so cheesy.
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I read an article that said the ‘Greek temple’ is actually a replica of the Lincoln Memorial where MLK gave his speach 45 years ago tomorrow. I was in DC a couple years ago, and the article is right. If you google Lincoln Memorial you can find pictures of it to compare with Obama’s stage.
Just saw this on local news in Virginia! The lead in was: ‘Good News from the DNC (!!!) Terry McAuliffe(we all remember Terry passionate spokesperson for Hillary then had to go Obommers…) considering a run for Governor !!’.. PUMAs the fix was in and that was his bribe..er…payment for being a good lil bot…he has NEVER been in public office…are the Obamas starting to hand out favors NOW, is the GE rigged too ??!
PUMAs our fight has only begun…I will not stop until we clean up this mess. Thank you so much Murphy for starting PUMA and for all you have done in such a short time…Country before Party!!! Lets begin!
valleywitch
I have to agree with a comment above. I dont think
the Zero is a leftist or liberal at all. I think he’s far right, athus his embracing Ronald Reagan and having a republican nominate him for resident, more right than you would guess now, a materialist and an opportunist – mixed in with some radicalism and hatred of white people – which his wife and minister have exposed. I think the black community is in for a surprise – cause he’s going to be no savior for them or the middle class. If anything I think he is fully capable of damaging America even further. Whether it’s McCain or Obama, it’s more George Bush.
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone in the last few days for welcoming us conservatives and Republicans. If we want this movement to stay strong, it has to welcome everyone who was horrified by this fiasco since May 31. It will take a lot of voices to put it right.
I think it was #1117YesSheCan – who said we need to put all similar organizations together into a coalition, and that it needs to remain centrist. That is ideal, because if it is, it will be a comfortable place for everyone who wants to work to make sure women’s voices are heard, and the voices of all voters are respected by their parties and delegates.
I propose we call it the Clintonian Coalition, in honor of a beloved fallen leader.
Anyway, thanks for making me feel welcome. I felt a lot less alone this week. A few of you even gave me a hug in Denver when I said I was a conservative who loves PUMA!
I am in awe of the 3Ms and all of you guys.
# 1193 mccaindemo – Thanks, that will be my motto from this day forward. . . .Country Before Party, A Voice for Each
I’m a little annoyed that Michelle cried for Obiden’s story and NOT THE STORY of the 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage? Michelle didn’t shed a tear about a WOMAN almost becoming president.
I think she’s all bark but no bite as far as her influence on her husband…as far as her cause as far as women vs. ethnic and racial movement.
I had hoped they were one and the same or at least equally important.
But I see what moved her.
@1198..”as far” as farrr..lol..
What I mean is, yes, I can see that she only cares about the OBAMA side of history.
Not the Clinton side of it.
Diva
What are still doing up this time of night? Wait till you come home and then tell us all about it. Get some rest. Yes, this is your bossy friend.
Welcome MacAllen
Received a donation request from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in today’s mail:
They are targeting the following senators from the following states:
Alaska R – Ted Stevens vs. D – Mark Begich
Colorado r – Bob Schaffer vs. D – Mark Udall
Kansas R – Pat Roberts vs. D – Jim Slattery
New Mexico R – Steve Pearce vs. D -Tom Udall
Kentucky R – Mitch McConnell vs. D -Bruce Lunsford
Virginia R – Jim Gilmore vs. D -Mark Warner
N. Carolina R – Elizabeth Dole vs. D -Kay Hagan
Oregon R – Gordon Smith vs. D -Jeff Merkley
Minnesota R – Norm Coleman vs. D – Al Franken
New Hampshire R – John Sununu vs. D -Jeanne Shaheen
Maine R – Susan Collins vs. D – Tom Allen
Of you need additional information, go to http://www.dscc.org/TwiceTheEffort
Defeating Democratic candidates that endorsed Obama would send a message.
Udalls are strong in their respective states and are good moderate Democrats with high ratings in environmental issues. I don’t recall seeing them on the O financial funding list. Jeff Merkley in Oregon (in my opinion) is not a strong candidate, but he riding on O’s shirt tails. MO’s brother is the new football or basketball coach at Oregon State University. And of course Oregon went heavily O in the liberal and rural areas of the state. Merkley is running against Gordon Smith who has worked across the isle with Obama on some issues (he’s using it in his ads). However, Smith has been a Bushie from the beginning. he comes from the eastside rural part of the state where Republicans dominate. Al Franken is a progressive, started Air America. It’s a tight race. Of course, we all know about Ted Stevens in Alaska. I doubt he’d win with all the ethics violations. And of course, you know about Mark Warner in Virginia (O’s best friend) and Kay Hagen who is strongly supported by Emily’s list against Elizabeth Dole. If any of you have any in state knowledge of these candidates, let other PUMAs know. Not all Democrats are “bad” people and some states may need those listed for some very important reasons. We need to know what those reasons are and just where they are for PUMA causes.
Halligan,
We’re all upstairs. Come join us.
Talking to myself, self. Good comments, self. See yah in the morning, self. Good night, self.
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