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That was Hillary’s message to us. KEEP RUNNING. Never give up. Never quit.
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Am I first?
finally at the top!
Murphy – any news?
What a bittersweet night–great speech and we have to wait 4 more years…
goodnight pumas–i still have time to pray for tomorrow,,,
And run we will! PUMA fast…NOBAMA!
Hillary in 2008! Have faith and spread the word!
repost
ok last post. for those needing a boost to teir spirits here , yet again, is Lord of the democrats. MY all time favorite video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oajdDnYDnwM
Evening PUMAs! I’m home. I heard Hillary’s speech was fantastic. I’m sorry I missed it. My mom recorded it for me though.
Cheer up. The Suffragists won their battle, and so will we. Check out my new PUMA blog:
http://unbrokencircles.com/blog4/
MURPHY @@@@@@@@@@@@@ LOVE YOU !!
snow…thanks so much my heart really needed that
murphy–you did FANTASTIC on the radio I was screaming (could you hear me
Clinton was amazing
A few superficial observations is that Michelle looked pissed that everyone loved her so much.
And I can’t help but contrast the fact that Michelle tried to connect to the crowd in her speech last night and failed so miserably… but Clinton had everyone in tears before she even uttered a word (just from the introduction). That was the difference between experience and inexperience… Greatness and mediocrity. Gosh Hillary was great.
Murphy, Blue, jenni~~~~love you all. What’s your take on all this, Murphy?
Wonder if someone should tell *61 that this election is “not all about him”!
Thanks Murphy, MarylandPUMA and MamaPUMA for all you have done…I will be here until we accomplish righting all the wrongs!
Godspeed! Hillary in 2008!
mzebest that is such a spot on description of what happened…I could not put it in words but you got it right!!
O’ Reilly, we knew MSNBC sukked a long time ago and even told YOU so!
full ann price mills video–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-XssR45W4E
13 LivingGrace@@@@@@@@ going to bed now, talk to you tomorrow. I have to do some work early A.M.
sweet dreams……..love you all
they are jealous of hillary…it is so clear now. they cannot have what she has because she is the authentic real deal and they are empty shirts…
no matter what they say or do they will never be her. perhaps there is a god after all…
Night KENDALBLUE!
I posted what I thought in the last thread.
After I broke down crying and talked to my tribal elder.
I still think Bill was somehow controlling the camera.
His looks and MO’s looks told me that what we were seeing and hearing isn’t necessarily what it really happening.
15 jenniforhillary
Thanks.
Also… something tells me Denver is hoping with lots to do after Clinton’s speech so we might not see any messages from Murphy for a while. She might be fighting battles behind the scenes still.
A repost from downstairs of a Clinton delegate after the speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct6p-3kVlX8
INU—how did you know my secret special dream of dreams????
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/all-comments/#comments
InuHanyou1701……….. nite nite
Hi PUMA friends, I just wanted to say goodnight and leave you with my thoughts on the Hillary speech. As I said earlier, I am a conservative McCain voter but I deeply respect Hillary Clinton and admire the PUMA movement.
I thought Hillary’s speech was wonderful but she clearly said what she had to say. Interesting how she never said that Obama was ready to lead. Yes, she said that she will support him but she has to say that. IMO she didn’t deliver a slam dunk for Obama. She made it more about her, not BO. Everything she said about him was attached to her … I believe xyz and so does Obama. I think she gave the best speech of her life.
After reading what Murphy posted about what the DNC is up to, I just have to wonder what’s up Hillary’s pants suit. She did not release her delegates, she didn’t try to pre-empt the PUMA effort. I really think that she’s praying that all hell breaks loose tomorrow.
This is what I think, she was 45 mins late for her talk, … Why? Because maybe there was some behind the scene drama going on about all of this. If she knew before her speech that she had 400 signatures, then she probably figured that after her speech she could easily get the other 426.
I think this is so exciting … I think we are going to see some major fireworks tomorrow!! Good job PUMA!!!! From one sistah to another, and a few brothers, I love y’all! Goodnight!
living–wasn’t it almost hollywood like the way the camera keep going from his face to hers…
sort of scary and strange….
Tomorrow is a new day. PUMA’s never give up.
Hillary’s speech was fantastic and moving. What was interesting was the looks on the faces as she spoke. Sadness and complete admiration. It seemed like the camera people were searching for people who seemed like happy Obama supporters, but found women and men with serious, sad faces and ones entirely taken by what she was saying. It was great to see all of the Hillary signs. I am surprised Obama allowed them.
Mzebest – absolutely spot on. In order to reach the audience a speaker has to communicate empathy – and shared emotion. Hillary does – that’s why we are all in tears. Michelle can’t do it because she carries little empathy if any for anyone – you can’t be that angry at the world and whitey and do it.
To all critics who are reading us: You assume Obama will win. So why be bothered with US? HUH?
Critics expose a SEVERE lack of confidence by attacking Pumas.
Hillary’s Presidential speech was the best I have ever heard in my life. Minus the BO endorsement.
Hillary did everything right and she is FREE.
BLAME Obama for not unifying us. Hillary has now bent over backwards for him, NO OTHER candidate has EVER EVER EVER done as much for the other.
That’s IT!!!!!!
Hillary’s obligations are DONE.
It’s ALL on Obama now to convince her full 18 MILLION supporters to support him.
GOOD FU–ING LUCK Obama! You will need it, because your supporters have been SO nasty, they smear your image and your BS hope for unity every chance they get by disgracing the Clinton’s and Hillary’s supporters. Now where did they learn that from???????
John McCain: I hope you were listening tonight!! You better come up with something to offer WOMEN. You better make it EASIER for me to vote for you!!!
For Women! For Hillary! For Pumas! For Always!
LMAO @ Michelle ODRAMA. hahahaha
#24 jenniforhillary
mick
Goodnight! Tomorrow is another day. And bear in mind. Hillary Clinton is many things but she is NOT a liar. This is why she hasn’t said that she believes he’s ready to lead. Why lie about something everyone knows about?
God always says that He allows those that elevate themselves like *61 and think they are so proud and in one swift move of His Hand…they are REMOVED!
Hillary in 2008! Have faith…no bigger than a mustard seed to move a mountain into a sea! PUMAS…we have moved the mountain!
Ditto, Kat, Ditto!!!
Passions are running hard and fast tonight but one thing is true. Hillary was great. We know who the true winner is. H-I-L-L-A-R-Y! nobama, never! Go Pumas!
I hope McCain has the good sense to realize the potential gift he’s been given!!!
#32 kat in your hat
Don’t just blame Obumbus. His supporters are to blame as well so to you supporters who are such (Word censored) online and in person to us. You only have yourselves to blame
I don’t know if my post was posted multiple times. I got a message “please slow down. you are posting multiple times” or something to that effect, after I hit submit. I hit the submit button only once.
I am sorry if my post came out multiple times. It was not my intention.
I think today has lasted long enuff. good night and may the Creator bless you all, my friends. The rest of you, too.
Woops didn’t see that Kat sorry.
Well. Reinforcing what you said then. Sorry about that. 
In future years, when the drama is over and the country is not at risk of losing it all, it will be interesting to see how the historians spin this whole event…
I hope that Hillary CLinton is gracious enough to give them all pardons after serving about 10 years in the fed. pen….
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT NOW!!!
Goodnight LivingGrace
Oh, it did not come at all…
Here it is.
HI PUMAs!
This is my first post on this site. I have been lurking here for awhile and after yesterday I need to comment.
DONT GIVE UP!!!!!!
Hillary’s speech was amazing last night. She did what she had to do. She is in between a rock and a hard place and she hit the ball out of the park.
Now if the polls go up, it is because of her and that does not look good for Obama. If they go down, it is because she was not on the ticket when she clearly demonstrated she is in this for the issues not for the ego. If she had blown it on Obama’s face and told him like it is, she would have been blamed.
When ever women (and men!) stand up for something that is not right, they are branded. Women are often branded “hysterical.” This is what seems to be happening with the MSM. If PUMA gives up now, the MSM have won. PUMA being out there, challenging the MSM, makes them look BAD and of course they are going to retaliate. But PUMA needs to keep fighting. Maybe the fight has moved on from Sen. Clinton, but it is still a fight for DEMOCRACY and people’s right to choose their own candidate and having a voice in the process.
Please,
NO GIVING UP
NO BACKING DOWN
“well behaved women seldom make history”
Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Thanks.
While I was watching Hillary’s speech, I noticed not only the sad faces of many in the crowd, knowing that Hillary should have been the nominee, but also the sour look on Michelle Obama’s face. I also saw the pride in Bill and Chelsea’s faces. It’s not over yet, and I hope tomorrow brings a wonderful surprise. If it doesn’t, i’ll still continue to fight.
Also, how great was Ann Price Mills? I think she said what a lot of us are feeling right now…
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/all-comments/#comments
We need help in this story please comment and make it hot we need to have it smoking hot for the morning there is less than 4 hours to do thanks
#31 MacAllen
I totally agree.
And the link to that delegate at post #17 is amazing to watch. Something tells me she will vote for McCain if Obama is her other choice… but everything she says is totally right on the nose.
mini vee posted this fantastic link in the thread below and it’s worth reposting!
A delegate’s heartrending views on Hillary’s presidential speech:
#673 mini vee on 08.27.08 at 1:14 am
I haven’t been commenting on this site in awhile due to workload and family stuff…but I always lurk and smile to see how hard the PUMAs work to have our voices heard. Tonight, I’m simply heartbroken and reading your voices lift me up. Here is a wonderful youtube of Hillary’s delegate…I think she speaks for all of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdhhW-zSeU
We are all cool.
Hillary stole the SHOW baby.
I need that opening video, waiting for someone to post it somewhere. Made me cry. Great stuff.
G’night Pumas.
Back to work tomorrow.
We can help to Protect the Nation and uphold Democracy.
P.U.M.A.
MacAllen, nice to see another professional writer on the blog.
You know I love how the news commentators are whining. “She only said his name 16 times!” I’m sitting here thinking “What? I wouldn’t have said his freaking name ONCE” I mean what was she supposed to do?
“I, Barack Obama, will, Barack, to, Barack, accept, Barack, the, Barack, Democratic, Barack, Nomination, Barack, this Thursday, Barack Obama!”?! Come on you idiots in the news. Get real. Would you like some cheese and crackers to go with that whine?
#17 KYkitten
Thanks for posting the full version… I had only seen the shorter version but your post was awesome to watch.
#32 and #39 – as a conservative walking around Denver with a Hillary pin and shirt today, I had the thought, walking through a group of Obama people selling buttons with that man’s face on them. . . that if these people all knew who I was – someone who writes a conservative blog, who is known as such in the internet world, who will vote McCain, and who is a huge Hillary fan. . . .would I be, well, SAFE in this crowd? I didn’t think so.
And it occurred to me that never in my near 50 years until now, have I once not felt safe in the presence of the other political party. Ever.
Obama supporters are certainly one of a kind. Many are as narrow and intolerant as their messiah. And as scary.
To clarify,
PUMA challenging the MSM makes the MSM look bad. Howard Dean and Ed Rendell have already acknowledged the bias of the media, more or less…
Thanks.
P.S. I cannot stand Margery Eagan from Boston Herald. She seems to be a MoDo wanna-be… I’m referencing to her sorry excuse of an article yesterday.
#49 InuHanyou1701
LOL!
Obama’s relationship with Ayers seems to be hitting at least Fox and not just Hannity.
It looks like Obama’s past is going to start haunting him.
#51 MacAllen
I don’t know if you believe in karma or not and I hope I don’t offend you by saying this but his supporters ARE mean. they are sadistic, obsessed, and defensive. But it will come back to bite them in the rear. Karma’s a (Word censored) and they will reap the seeds that they have sewn
#52 mzebest
#51 MacAllen
Bingo…
I’ve had that exact same thought throughout this campaign. He’s managed to divide this nation into the concept of “you’re either for me or you’re against me” — which is the same exact premise his Trinity BLT Church is built on.
I’ve often had the thought that this is the first time I feel like my life is threatened by the people representing the other candidate. I remember a professor in college lecturing on how wonderful this democracy is. How we take it for granted that there’s a change of power every 4 or 8 years without any battles or fights that threaten our way of life… it’s a peaceful exchange of power and that’s an incredible thing. I wonder what that professor thinks of this election cycle?
Pumas, before I say goodnight tonight, I thought I would pass along an image from our JSND brother NoQ:
The Denver Group Reception
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/26/the-denver-group-reception/
Night Pumas.
#55 InuHanyou1701.
Hello, seems we are loners, anyone else still up?
#55 InuHanyou1701
“Oh well… See?! Saying his name so much messes with your head!”
Ya ever notice that Biden can’t say his name without tripping over it in some manner?
“KEEP GOING”
“KEEP GOING”
“KEEP GOING”
That was what I heard Hillary say to us tonight.
In everything, KEEP GOING.
Keep going, Hillary. We are with you all the way, in every endeavor.
SHE is the one.
Hillary ‘08.
Delegates and SuperD’s, do the right thing. Bring it home for Hillary.
#58 MadLogic
I’m still up. I’ve been quiet on the blog this week because I’m cramming for my own big conference next week. But I keep lurking.
Dude: that was the BEST speech of her life!
Hi MadLogic. Yes it would. It’s late on the East Coast though so most of our PUMAs there are going to bed. Hopefully it will pick up in a little bit though. Some of you are still here though. Yay!
mzebest
I tune out whenever Michelle, BHO, OR Biden come on the screen so I haven’t really noticed. The sight of them makes me physically ill.
Does he really? That’s HILARIOUS.
Kat
Goodnight! Sleep well. If your family or friends here you growling in your sleep, well at least WE will know what’s up.
Bill looked like he got punched in the nose. I wonder if Hillary popped him. God knows he deserves it!
HI FIREBELLE! It’s been too long!
#12 mzebest Totally agree. I’ve never thought about the reason for Michelle’s expression; thought she just always looks pissed.
#51 MacAllen
You could not have said that better. This is why so many of us stand by our statements that we are fighting for our country. BO inspires hate and this is evidenced every day by his supporters.
This is one reason that I have no qualms about voting for McCain. I have heard nothing but nice things about his supporters. And I believe that he actually does love this country.
#61 Firebelle Puma.
It has been a long night for everyone.
4Hillary: You think so? I really thouhgt he was was totally in love with his wife. Very, very proud and…well, in awe. I adored his adoration.
#63 InuHanyou1701
“I tune out whenever Michelle, BHO, OR Biden come on the screen so I haven’t really noticed. The sight of them makes me physically ill. Does he really? That’s HILARIOUS.”
Oh yeah… I haven’t heard him say his last name once without fumbling on the syllables. I suspect his difficulty in saying his name might be one of the reasons he gave up and said Barack America at the VP announcement speech.
I just had a long conversation with my sister in Atlanta, Georgia, many many miles from Indiana. We were both watching the commentary, flipping back and forth between Greta and CNN.
I am so wound up that I probably will not sleep much. My house and office are a wreck, as I was that way all day.
If this speech doesn’t convince the delegates and super delegates that they are about to make the biggest mistake they have ever made if they continue on the path they are on, nothing will.
Do we have enough delegate signatures for a floor fight? If we don’t please, Denver crew, work all night to get them!
Keeping the faith……………
No, Michelle looked, as though she were trying to keep aloof, but there was a fire in her eyes. Like she was biting her tongue. I don’t understand what was drawing her ire, but the again, 20 years of Wright could make her angry, no matter what she heard?
#69 Kerri
I agree. Bill looked supremely happy for Hillary.
It was a great speech, he was totally into it. Proud. Beyond proud. Amazed!
#65 InuHanyou1701
Yes, it has. It’s good to see you back too.
#67 sharpclaws
McCain has put his life on the line for our country and been willing to die for our country which is more than can be said for BHO OR Michelle. I swear I want to walk right up to BHO and pull his lapel pin off and go
“LOOK EVERYONE! He’s a fake! His American Flag lapel pin with 57 stars on it comes right off! Wait… that’s not a lapel pin… it’s a cufflink… He’s not wearing a lapel…?”
BTW: those who haven’t switched parties yet: I urge you to do as I will, once the nomination is in place for Obama I will switch my party affiliation to Independent. I have and will again, right now, suggest a prowl promoting such an idea…the more we have do so at one time the more effective it will be.
Yes I think he loves his wife but he’s cheated on her so many times. Like Hillary I could learn to live with it but I would never be able to forgive him. And every time I thought about it I would give him a pop.
#74 Firebelle Puma
Thank you Firebelle. It’s been insane busy over here. Glad to know I always have a place to come when I need a little positive energy!
Again, welcome back. 
#76 Kerri
I really hope to see a mass exodus from the Democratic Party after he accepts the nomination (If he gets it). I have waited to change my affiliation for this.
#64 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 2:05 am
Bill looked like he got punched in the nose. I wonder if Hillary popped him. God knows he deserves it!
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lol, 4Hillary!
My mom and I were on the phone as we watched and she said that’s a sign of excessive alcohol.
Ironically…a Ted Kennedy nose!
But I was happy to see that Bill looked great otherwise…trim, not red-faced, nice haircut…
He was totally on tonight!
I think Bill and Hillary Clinton’s love story is one that gets better and better. He obviously loves and respects her as a person. His admiration and affection is evident every time he watches her in one of these events. That they have suffered some personal hard times makes it ever more touching. They are the best example I know of people who survived the fire by pure determination. That shows in everything they do.
I am not saying PUMA is about hurt feelings, but how ironic BO wants us to get over our “hurt feeling” and vote for him, when he can’t get over his. He could of select a VP that would have handed him the Presidency. He couldn’t put his country above his ego. Why would anyone vote for him?
Yes I will be switching to Independent if the nominee is Obama. But I would prefer to joint the New True Democratic party. Where is it? When will it be born?
#78 InuHanyou1701
I hear you. This week is Hell Week for me every year as I prepare for a big conference that I both teach and exhibit at. I suppose it’s a good excuse not to get too wrapped up in watching the convention. But I sure would like to catch some of the Republican convention next week just to see how they fare against Obama.
Wow thanks for #17 the full version KYKitten. I am just heartbroken for her. . . look at the courage with all the people standing around with Obama pins looking at her. I hope to GOD no one threatens her tonight or some dumb thing.
I think she will end up finding out that McCain isn’t the monster he is painted to be. .. and I predict she’ll vote for him in November.
Well, ‘night all. Great work, great day, PUMAs. I am in absolute awe of you guys.
I loved her words of Harriet Tubman..EVERY one supported them: Keep going!
I’m thinking those were to US, PUMA’s. Maybe I’m just really narcissistic, maybe I’m THAT egotistical…but when she said that I heard, Kerr, keep going.
Regarding my own post #85 – What the heck am I thinking???? She’ll vote for HILLARY in November!! I have to go to bed. LOL
I think Hillary made it clear to him that she would not accept the VP spot. She doesn’t want to totally destroy herself!
Local rumor has it that Senator Byah turned him down.
Wouldn’t it be great if Hillary manages to get the nomination tomorrow, and Byah is her running mate?
#79 Inuhanyou
I have been waiting for the right day to switch to independent. When Sen Clinton suspended, 4th of July and finally decided the day after the faux convention would be the most symbolic. Know one will probably notice but it’ll get me some satisfaction. Who knows maybe Murphy will make that Friday’s prowl– everyone who can get to a local elections office to go in wearing Hillary stuff and asking for a registration change.
#76 Kerri
It has to be a smart exodus…some states, such as Mass., have an important primary (we can vote Kerry out in Sept!!!) where we need to remain Dems.
Also, I read somewhere that the 2010 census would redraw the districts according to political affiliation.
Dang….there is possibility there!! To lay at Dean’s feet the loss of Dem territory.
We need someone really savvy to direct this!!!
McCain may be a monster, or maybe he isn’t. Honestly I don’t know much about him. But that is not what matters now. The only thing that matters is BO does not get elected. God forbid he makes it to the white house. The country would never be the same.
#89 henry
I believe if there is a big enough exodus from the party, the pundits MAY report on it. They may not like shaming their chosen one but that kind of news might be too delicious to pass up. At least I hope so
I, too, have held back from switching parties until such time as Obama becomes the nominee. Can we, perhaps, get some direction as to how best to do that before Thursday? Because, I guess, Thursday is the day. THerefore,I, Kerri PUMA, say to you all who are capable: If you have not left the democratic party yet, do so on Thursday. Change your affiliation to Independent…you can still vote any way you choose, it will, however, inform the DNC officials of your supreme disapproval, to the point of…beyond, beyond.
Please, whoever’s gone through this process before, post a link for us to do so on Thursday. I’ll make sure it’s circulated.
Someone should uhm….destroy Governor Richardson.
Sorry for asking but what are the rules here? I am new today and I don’t know what freedom of speech is allowed.
Henry, I’m waiting until the day after the GE to change my party affiliation to independent. That way in all the facts and figures for the election they can show me as a Democratic who voted for McCain.
#94 Kerri
Careful Kerri. The Feds are pretty tuned into threatening things like that and we wouldn’t want to lose a PUMA. (Hopefully I don’t offend you with this warning. If I do, I’m sorry!
)
Kerri
I think richardson and mcCaskill should be deposited on a desert island with only each other to talk to. A fate worse than waterboarding.
As am Independently registered voter, I would imagine that at Census, or any other time, I get to choose my affiliations. Regardless, I can always switch parties. Now is the time to let the Democratic party know they SUCK!!
FUCH THEM!!! My ire knows no BOUNDS. I’m sorry. I am. I realize that in that anger I…can offend and scare others, I’m that passionate. I don’t really care, lol. But uhm… yeah, I’m NOT going to be voting democratic this election and I WANT those in charge to KNOW IT! I WANT ANYONE WHO CARES< to KNOW< that I a once STAUNCH democrat WILL NOT BE such come November. Changing party affiliations at this point, come THURSDAY? I think is the PARAMOUNT step I can take to voice that opinion.
#95 4Hillary
I don’t want to misrepresent the rules so I think a more experienced PUMA might want to answer this but the rules, as I interpret them, are that you are welcome to say what you wish but please try not to purposely offend someone. If offense is taken, please apologize and don’t repeat it. Am I wrong in that assessment of our rules PUMAs? Please please PLEASE correct me if I am.
Oh. And welcome to the PUMAs!!!
If BO gets elected I wonder if he will put a basketball hoop in the oval office. Hmmmmm
For those talking about changing their party affiliation, let me urge you to do some research first. My State does not allow you to vote in down ballot races if you are independent.
If you want to vote someone out, changing might not be a good idea. So please check the rules for your state.
Something I have been thinking about; A lot of people changed to independent right after Hillary conceded, they are not being counted in the number of dems not voting for BO. So the numbers could be even higher than they think.
I just want to thank EVERYONE who is in Denver representing me. If the roll call gets stopped in NY tomorrow, then my vote and the work I did out of state does not count and does not matter. So, every PUMA who is in denver protesting and getting heard, you are representing me.
Repost: Check out Pastor Manning and the divine vision he received about who wins the presidency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMieaCkC8dk
pastor manning is funny but I think he’s really a little cookey
I am having trouble with Youtube. I can’t play any videos
#95 4Hill
here are the rules
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#91 4Hillary
You might want to read this… because if we do have to decide between a choice of BO or McCain… this article definitely gave me peace of mind that I will have no trouble voting for McCain over BO.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2043921/posts
Hillary changed her website again and has some nice pictures up from the convention at her blog site.
OMG! we had such a great night at PUMA HQ~ wait till you see the pic’s!! wait till you see The PUMA MOBILE!!!
YOU would be proud!!!
we had PUMA Party as we Celebrated Sen. Hillary R. Clinton’s beautiful speech~ and her dedication to her
#107 henry
Thank you henry. I wouldn’t have answered (Because I don’t want to misrepresent) but I was concerned no one else saw the question.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aKE4VJLNtFw
#95 4Hillary
I think it’s safe to say that the general rules are that no one here will vote for Obama… but we do not try to promote a particular course of voting preference beyond that. We also require that everyone shows respect for others on the blog and no foul language. Pretty basic common sense and good manners type of rules.
Thanks henry for posting the rules.
I hope my comment about basketball did not sound racist. I have read that many US presidents have had a lot to do with baseball and BO has made it clear that he likes to play basketball so if it sounds racist it is not meant to be taken that way.
I think McCain would put in a shuffleboard game. LOL!!!
McCain plays chess from what I have been told
yeah that makes sense since he likes war.
what ever happened to the petition????
#114 4Hillary
I didn’t see your basketball comment. However, I used to play and referee as often as possible, so I love the game, even if, sadly, Obama does too. But I’ll tell you this … if politics were like basketball, Obama would have fouled out long ago for unsportsmanlike conduct.
117 texan4hillary
I had to leave for a little while so if they have said anything I missed it
well apparently obama was so exceptional a basketball player in high school that he was capable of a 3 pt shot before it was implemented. according to one of his works of fiction.
Al Gore invented the internet and Obama invented the 3 point shot.
Wow ..
I finally got a chance to see the clip of the Clinton Delegate on CNN (Price?) — what an amazing woman. I’m a big tough guy and it made me tear up a bit. Quite amazing. It put things into perspective.
Goodnight Pumas — you guys in Denver are amazing and to everyone out there working the email and calls to AGs, SofS’ Media etc etc– thanks …
.. Absolutley amazing ..
Goodnight
So true….She is not defeated. The Hillary Democrats are still inspired…amazing speech.
Hillary has a lifetime of service…Obama has the gift of words. Hillary’s actions in behalf of women and children speak for themselves.
Obama is going to give a big speech in front of a multi million dollar mock up of the Whitehouse….Have Democrats lost their minds? All of the sudden we are trying to sell a guy as a “common man” with this kind of setup! Perhaps the Democratic muckey mucks and most certainly the MSM are happy with this selection….but I am not inclined to “get over it” and never will “fall in line”
Hillary was courageous and wonderful. I only hope that I get to see her someday as President.
This election season has been eye-opening for me.
Thanks Murphy….for creating unity for so many Hillary supporters who appreciate your efforts!
Yeah, well if I were officiating, he’d be thrown out of the game for nonstop technical fouls long before he could take his first three-point shot.
OMG! we had such a great night at PUMA HQ~ wait till you see the pic’s!! wait till you see The PUMA MOBILE!!!
YOU would be proud!!!
we had a PUMA Party with lots of food and drinks as we Celebrated Sen. Hillary R. Clinton’s beautiful speech~ and her dedication to her supporters! She made me PROUD tonight in her strength and gosh she didnt even have a teleprompter!!! She said just enough, and said what she had to, and that was that~ Hillary was the GOLDEN TICKET for the Dem’s~
and they BLEW IT!!!!!
ohh btw, John McCain reached out to Dem’s here in Denver with an open bar and snacks WITH NO PRESSURE AT ALL!!!! last night.
Those that went said it was great! They were greeted and told to come in and drink and eat~ enjoy~ and NO ONE is HASSLED! they were thanked for coming by!!
what has Bo done to reach out to us? nota!!! nothing! and he wants my vote?
ok will try to get a few pic’s up for some of you still up~
how could they have it so wrong?!!!!
Goodnight Rugger!
opps~ ignore 110#
murphy delete it if you read this please~ ty!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/opinion/27dowd.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
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Very interesting article about what’s going on in Denver
4Hillary: not nice about the hoop, smacks a little of racial stereotyping…
As far as Bill and his infidelity, forgiveness is a sign of high character…that, and if you saw his 60 Minutes interview, Bill did go through a lot of counseling and was pretty honest and contrite about how he should have worked all his issues out when he was younger, but foolishly ignored them…things don;t always work out between couples, but it looks to me like the good Hillary sees in Bill far outweighs the bad…in any case, she knows him best by far and so I myself wouldn’t presume to second-guess her judgment.
#125 SouthJerseyPUMA
Thanks for reporting. That’s so cool that John McCain reached out to you guys. He has class.
Thanks to his ego, Obama could not even attempt to select Hillary for VP; now most of the Hill supporters (and some Independents) can be on the same page and to unite against him.
On another note, the Pumas in Denver have done such a great job, they have definitely captured the media as now news/ videos of PUMA are all over everywhere.
So proud of you, Pumas in Denver!
I am supposing that at 2:42 am EST I’m hearing repeat words from the “non” news stations…and yet, I am heartned to have just heard Brian Williams say that if BO wants to be effective in his speech they (his speech writers) had best focus a few minutes on womens’ acchievements and right and all those cracks in our ‘glass ceiling’.” Apparently, our Hill, spoke loud enough, on so many points, but her voice on women’s issues, and we PUMA’s, in case you hadn’t noticed, are mostly women…they feel he needs to address that.
I know, as you do, that…it’s far too little, too late.
But I have to say, that people, when they learn I’m a staunch Hillary supporter, ask me, “are you a feminsit”? and I say, uhm…no. Because..okay, I have NO education to speak of. My father is a republican, he’s the most racist and sexist person I’ve ever known. Uhm. I bring him up because, while I’ve heard MANY other voices in my life that were racist, wether they knew it or not. and while I’ve often questioned my OWN stnadingon that issue, because–well, because, frankly, black people are the most racist people you’ll ever meet, for the MOST part,I can’t say all…. uhm…
the question has been put to me at this juncture: Are women indiscriminately discriminated against? I, having no education, no uhm…chances in society, I’ve never come up against this paragim.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/#comment-527403
please comment on fox they need to know there is a great interest on this story we need them to comment more and have new information in the morning thanks
#116 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 2:45 am yeah that makes sense since he likes war.
I really don’t see any evidence that McCain “likes” war; he is often misquoted on his Iraq War stance: he actually said that it would be ok for us to keep some troops in Iraq IF it was like our presence in Korea, where no soldiers were being wounded or killed.
Obama, on the other hand, has always said we should keep the 100,000 Blackwater and other non-accountable armed paramilitary mercenaries in there indefintely (and recently said he could additionaly see keeping 60-80,000 regular US military troops in there as well). He strikes me as the kind of person who as President would use force whenever he felt it politically expedient, whereas I feel McCain would use it when he felt it actually necessary. Which is worse? It depends on how good the judgment and other political skills of each is.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g-this is my answer to the onc……..
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:usatoday:469075eb722f9ef0471838ef3d91cfc7&publisher_urn=usatoday&guid=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.usatoday.com%252Fnews%252Fpolitics%252Felection2008%252F2008-08-25-ayers_N.htm%253Fcsp%253D34
I have a very suspicious feeling that O’s speech will be a real doozy. He will do his best to talk about unity and how good Hillary is and about healing. It won’t work of course, but he will try.
ABC is reporting that they didn’t get enough delegate signatures tonight by the deadline.
I think the DP knew they were going to pull the rug out from under the legitimate roll-call vote when it was too late to do anything about it.
We’ll see. It’s not over.
OBAMA WILL NOT BE ELECTED OUR PRESIDENT.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHEAD08082708.htm
Latest poll shows McCain leading Obama, 47 to 43 percent
#132 Kerri
Brian Williams is delusional. We reject BO as the presumptive nominee because he cheated. The only way he can redeem himself is by leaving the race.
MSM – Our nation is a democracy which means one person, one vote. It cannot be gamed by anyone or any party. The days are gone with backroom deals. We are in the age of the Internet.
SENATOR CLINTON EARNED THE VOTES OF 18 MILLION AMERICANS. SENATOR OBAMA CANNOT GOVERN A NATION WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. HE DOESN’T HAVE IT NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS IN A SPEECH.
Every time that anyone on NBC or MSNBC opens their mouth, I feel like I’m in a third world country. The entire crew at the Peacock Network needs to be detoxed.
hey wontbackdown, can you link up a story about the delegate petition?
blessings, stay safe!
valleywitch
http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/nation/ny-usdemo275817842aug27,0,7524886.story
Clinton supporters protest to honor her failed bid
I saw a video of McCain saying there might be US troops in Iraq for 100 years and it wasn’t important when they came home.
But I don’t care what he said because I would rather have him than Obama, who I understand is involved with terrorists from the 60’s.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/26/chris-matthews-experience_n_121468.html
Chris Matthews Battles Full-On PUMA Inanity
I’m wondering if NObama will wear a TOGA on Thursday when he deliver his speech as selected nominee of the DNC, bought and paid for superdelegates. The stage where he’ll give his speech resembles ancient Greek Temple. Is he going to deliver a speech like Julius Caesar?
PUMAs I had better go onto bed. It’s a long day tomorrow. A LONG day. Here’s to hoping. Night everyone!
137 pooh496
I have a very suspicious feeling that O’s speech will be a real doozy.
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I wonder whose speech he’ll plagiarize.
from the previous thread
ORANGE like the st lights
means caution, almost danger
Wouldn’t it be something if the teleprompter failed during his speech? Then he’d have nothing to say but “um” and “uh.”
I think NObama will start his speech in his “Ancient Greek Temple” with this line and being an egoccentric and narcissistic that he is, he will revise it:
Friends! and countrymen! Lend me your ears (koolaid drinkers, bought and paid for superdelegates cut off their ears and toss it in the direction of DA MESSIAH); I come here not praise Nobama but to bury him!”
All koolaid drinkers will start chanting: THE ONE! THE ONE! Oprah is standing behind the curtain giggling, jumping with joy, she can’t wait to spend the night at the Lincoln bedroom in the Whitehouse.
NObama use his preacher voice to fool his cult followers, but his teleprompter went black, can’t see a single word!
Ladies and gentlemen, you’re about to see the end of political career of a man named Barack Hussein Nobama. His best buddy Ayers buried him out of politics never to be seen again nor his name will be heard even in whisper. Dean will give his trademark scream, veins popping out of his neck, Nancy Pelosi will lose all her hair, even her eyeshadow start rolling down her cheeks, Reid will have a look of surprise on his face like a deer caught in a headlight.
GOODNIGHT!
I am praying for rain to Denver. It would be WONDERFUL!!! An all out storm!
orange is my most favorite color. not being weird but i believe she did it on purpose.
orange is the color of energy and POWER.
she said, “the sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits,”
WHAT RIVERDAUGHTER SAID!!!!!!!!
MY WISH FOR NOBAMA!!!!! MAY THE BIRD OF PARADISE FLY UP HIS NOSE!!!!!
Oh I forgot to add! May the elephant caress Nobama with his toes…………..ROTFLMAO!
#157 murphy
I still like the thought that orange is directly opposite blue on the color wheel.
Hillary absolutely stood out against the blue background … and stood in stark contrast to the sham the Democratic party has become.
murphy did she release her delegates? and one news source is saying there will be no role call vote?
asian4hill, the rumor is that bruce springsteen is giving a free concert in order to get people to mile-high-ego-stadium –
lordy lordy — smell the desperation?
nurphy so is bon jovi.
thnx TN puma, i luv nerfies,
i heard that too.
oh yeah and oprah will be there.
Murphy
You know NObama can’t have a large audience without a concert. I mean the man say the same thing over and over again. If I’m in Denver I’d watch Bruce Springsteen concert but I wouldn’t vote for NObama. I’d rather have my wisdom tooth pulled without anaesthetic than vote for NObama.
NObama is beyond desperation, he is hanging on for his dear life to save his career, he knew he is going to lose in November. The biggest problem of NObama is NObama himself. He is his father’s son, his old man was the same way in Kenya, talk down on people, know it all. He died a failure and hated by a lot of people. NObama sowed hatred last primary and hatred he shall reap. His supporters use the MOST vile, venomous language I’ve come across, that reflects on NObama. His wife is just like him, full of hatred.
You know what they say, “blowback is a biatch.” Now he need to get some blow and stick it in his nose.
You were on the news during the walk,they said there were at least a couple thousand there. and 15% of hills voters still wont vote for him after tonight.
You know she came in a white pantsuit but changed to orange….very interesting.
yes — A4hill — i love bruce too.
I wont vote for obama either.
#165 tennaseepuma on 08.27.08 at 3:52 am
You know Hillary came out of that convention MORE powerful and influential beyond measure. She have won the HEART of millions of people all over this country and overseas. Hillary has a heart of LION, fortitude of a WARRIOR.
TN puma — i did NOT know that. omg now i think I am right. I think was speaking to us, I really truly do.
thank you –
Murphy
When she said, “don’t give in, don’t give up”……the message was for us.
I was balling like a baby, she is still my choice.then after her 8 years,i fully expect we will start looking at chelsea?
I’m calling it a night…. I hope it pours buckets of rain when Obama when he steps up into his white house stage…. I hope he relishes in all the glory, because when November gets here he’s not moving into the white house in D.C. ….. So hopefully his stage performance is suffice….. And to light things up maybe GOD will grace him with some lighting & thunder …. and then let it pour down buckets of rain….. I’ll bet he covers his head and runs for cover…. Clinton took advantage of the rain and someone captured an awesome picture…
DNC Protesters ATTACK Fox reporter in Denver – Obama supporters show the world their insanity!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc6XJ_J1o4A&feature=related
Southjersey your pictures were great. thanks.
did you see my latest video,south/?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/
please comment on the story on fox less than 2 hours for fox and friends this story needs to be hotttttttt thanks
well all I am weary and tomorrow is another day to keep obama out…
sweet sleep all pumas and friends of puma and hillary to.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LeA2B0o7UQ4
MURPHY & ALL PUMAS IN DENVER
& THE ONES AT HOME WORKING HARD
you people are just great
going thru the post
the video
where the braiwashed attacked a reporter
were carrying cheguevara´s sings
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-obama-filesaug27,0,2234082.story
Files linking Obama to ’60s radical a hot commodity
UIC library releases Annenberg records
Obama and Ayers both attended some 1995 board meetings of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers was instrumental in starting and Obama chaired in the 1990s.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/dnc/1127918,ayers082608.article
Hillary Clinton was awesome tonite and you can tell that she is still a force to be reckoned with by the number of critical articles about a perfect speech. Basically, she scared the pantsuits off of them. Her whole performance said, “Follow THAT, Barack!”
http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080826/OPINION02/808260303/1005/NEWS01
Obama consorts with terrorists
great article
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_082608/content/01125115.guest.html
From Messiah to Common Man
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/this_story_is_going_to_kill_ob.html
‘This story is going to kill Obama at the polls’
Hillary did a most incredible speech. How could nayone not see that she is so right for POTUS. I was in awe and felt she actually campaigned for herself more so than the few referrals to XO. And as for MO, she is full of cintempt and hate. Here eyes five her away.
New York Times – give me a break – the headlines alone make me sick – drank the Kool-Aid
[Clinton Delivers Emphatic Plea for Unity By PATRICK HEALY Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton deferred her own dreams on Tuesday and made a soaring appeal for Democrats to support Senator Barack Obama.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/us/politics/27dems.html?th&emc=th
]
How many are aware of the Larry Sinclair story?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/larry-sinclair
OH! the typos this morning! Where’s the coffee?
Additional Larry Sinclair site.
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/
Had an e-mail from Hillary, in my reply I changegd the subject line to say NO HOW NO WAY NO OBAMA!
never ever obama, I hope the delegets stand up for themselves today!
I have to go to work today, I hope I get off early don’t want to miss anything.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-obama-records,0,7750626.story?track=rss
There is a video about the release of this documents one man say its over 50,000 documents in there
We should contact the media for pressure on this story as well as contact the dnc let them know that we know and that after this its all down hill for Barack and the DNC there is still time to get Hillary lets fight
GO PUMA
I can’t wait to hear Bill tonight, I know he is up to something! BETWEEN THE LOVE HE HAD FOR hILLARY AND THE TWINKLE IN HIS EYES THE dnc BETTER WATCH OUT
Keep going!
And Michele speared the GOMER initiative (get out of my ER)
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/michelle-keep-the-poor-out/
fLORIDA HAD A PRIMARY YESTERDAY, ONLY 17% OF VOTERS TURNED OUT STATE WIDE.
Bill Clinton can’t hide the way he feels;
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/bill-clinton-in-denver-again-undercuts-obama-2008-08-26.html
Good Morning – anyone still here??
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2008/08/strategy_memo_clintons_nowin.html
Strategy Memo: Clinton’s No-Win
I wonder what is happening with the law suit regarding Obama’s birth certificate. Did they get Biden to get of it? What is happening with American today? Back room deals etc…… I love Hillary but I will never unite behind Obama. I am disappointed with Hillary. She knows that Obama will be bad for this country. Shouldn’t she put her country before her party?
Can anyone tell me where to go to look at pix from Denver? I’m dying to see what’s going on. Soooo wish I could be there.
I’m in Seattle and couldn’t sleep and didn’t get a chance to see Hillary’s speech as I had to work and then take my daughter to get school clothes and shoes…
I am reading that she wore and orange pantsuit? That’s great! When I first read that PUMAs were going to have orange t-shirts and balloons I thought yuk! Cheetos color…
But I do see the wisdom of standing out and I can’t recall ever hearing that she’s worn an orange pantsuit before… she’s a PUMA!!!
I loved her Harriet Tubman reference (read the transcript of the speech) and am so proud of all the PUMAs who are there in Denver representing the millions of us who can’t be there. Thanks!!!
Oh Wow! I didn’t even think of the connection with orange! It’s a message and BO doesn’t even know.
Excellent!!
204 PortiaElizabeth – there’s a link to Photobucket on the previous thread, but you’ll have to find it.
Morning all
#204 PortiaElizabeth
http://s529.photobucket.com/albums/dd333/SouthJerseyPUMA/
208 MadLogic
Good morning – say, were you posting last nite? I thought I saw you…who/what got at TexasSherry and JenniforHillary?
Hillary gave PUMA’s a nickname “sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits”. Gotta love it.
199- Be glad the turnout was low in FL. It was a local primary election with lots of judges and school board members.
The new optical scan ballots are going to cause big trouble in GE if they are not fixed. Instead of offering ballots in english, spanish, and creole, they jumbled all three languages on the same ballot. The little ovals you have to fill in were so faint, I had trouble finding them. Plus, everyone in the precinct has to line up to use one “reader/scanner”. I can see a lot of 7am voters in the GE running late for work and just giving up.
I am in Broward so I do not know if other counties did a better job. But we are a gigantic county heavily loaded with Hillary supporters. So I do hope the GE is a little more streamlined.
#209 1gypsy4mc.
Morning
Yes, yesterday was just nail biting for most, so I tried to stay up, but drift in and out of my nap, hehehe!
How are you? What’s the feeling?
I hate the MSM, the Obots are nasty already, and they are supposed to be the uniter’s followers.
There have been no moderators for the last couple of days, the trolls came out of the woodwork, and the regulars emotions are all over the place, it was just chaos. I hope the regulars would take time, and come back soon
August 26, 2008
DENVER — Bill Clinton appeared to undermine Sen. Barack Obama again Tuesday.
The former president, speaking in Denver, posed a hypothetical question in which he seemed to suggest that that the Democratic Party was making a mistake in choosing Obama as its presidential nominee.
He said: “Suppose for example you’re a voter. And you’ve got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don’t think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues, but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver. For whom would you vote?”
Then, perhaps mindful of how his off-the-cuff remarks might be taken, Clinton added after a pause: “This has nothing to do with what’s going on now.”
Dear PUMAs,
Please remember that Obama Supporters are our friends. They are soon going to be able to take the advise they have been giving us and go vote for Hillary Clinton as the next President. Retract claws. Be nice.
211 MadLogic – I know, I had to step back and try to ignore them, but am going to send an email today. They just have to try to hurt others.
I thought Hillary’s speech was off the charts!! I could not have done it like she did. I feel she sent a message to the brave women and few brave men to keep marching, picketing, and never stop…..I know it was for the suffrage, but it was for us also!!
bless you, PUMAs in Denver.
The march was on FOX – I wish I knew some of the PUMAs. I’m not a real emotional type that cries easily, but I never even got through Hillary’s introduction..
#214 1gypsy4mc.
Still 2 more days of drama to go, so hang tight
As to what happen to Tex/Jen, I remember a little of the spat thay have with others, but it was just chaos, and add to that confusion was at times people often refer to the wrong posts when replying.
Murphy By the end of the evening the media was saying PUMAs………. not just the “lunch bucket democrats.” Greta says there’s a really “big” problem that the DNC isn’t recognizing – US!
Thanks for the PUMAs in Denver – you did great!!
Thank you so much for the link to the photos!!!
#219 PortiaElizabeth.
No problem. It was done by SouthJersey. It was good to see the faces that we have come to know on the blog, and activities
PortiaElizabeth.
Here’s more
http://s529.photobucket.com/albums/dd333/SouthJerseyPUMA/Hillary%20Pics%20at%20Women%20Count%20Luncheon%208-26-08/
PUMAs go to Happy Hour for mcCain and other Denver bits
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/denver-seen-and-heard-part-2/
As long as the U.S. Constitution-there is always a chance for Democracy to prevail. Ans so yes-Never stop believing because anything is possibel-Remember that!
Last night the PUMAS were trying to get the signatures needed from the Delegates so that they had to honor Clinton at roll call. Last time I looked last night they reached 400 Signatures. They need 20%.
Sorry for the typos-I literally rolled out of bed and had to see what was going on.
Those pix are so great!
Makes me so sad for not being there to see history made and sad for what could have been…
MadLogic – I didn’t have the links either – when they were first sent out we needed a passcode and it didn’t work – thanks from me also.
A Presidential speech by Senator Clinton….Such an
intelligent leader in every way.
She is 100 light years ahead of Obama…….What are the
Super delegates thinking about to consign Hillary to the waste bin
Voters should now get rid of Obama as quickly as possible in November, by making use of the Republican machine.
The result will justify the means–for the sake of your country and the future of America
“Country before Party”
Good fortune, Shane, Ireland
PUMAS – This story can be even bigger than Ayers etc. The msm knew about the Edwards affair for a year before it was released and I am sure that they know about this one, but BO’s people are managing to squash it. I really believe that this person is telling the truth. Please check it out.
http://blogtalkradio.com/larry-sinclair
LARRY SINCLAIR/BARACK OBAMA
The following link is one that you have to take time to listen to. MommaE has Philip Berg, the lawyer who is suing Obama in Philadelphia on. Be patient when you listen as he finally calls in after about 20 – 25 minutes.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mommaeradiorebels
http://www.obamacrimes.com
2008 Democratic National Convention Podium Schedule Wednesday, August 27, 2008 ‘SECURING AMERICA’S FUTURE’ Time shown as local – Denver, Colorado MST
Last update: 3:06 a.m. EDT Aug. 27, 2008
DENVER, Aug 27, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ –
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Hour # 1 3:00 PM – 5:00 PM (LOCAL)
Call to Order
The Honorable Leticia Van de Putte
State Senator from Texas
Co-Chair, Democratic National Convention
Invocation
Archbishop Demetrios
Primate of the Greek Orthodox Church in America
Presentation of Colors
Colorado Chapter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars
Franz Wedeman, Thomas Chesner, David Shuker, John Harrington
Pledge of Allegiance
Paul Bucha
Ridgefield, Connecticut recipient of the Medal of Honor for distinguished service as a commanding officer in Vietnam
National Anthem
Robert Moore
Distinguished singer from South Dakota and elected council member of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe
Presidential Nomination Process
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker of the US House of Representatives
Permanent Chair, Democratic National Convention
Nominating speech on behalf of Senator Hillary Clinton
Seconding speeches on behalf of Senator Hillary Clinton (2)
Nominating speech on behalf of Senator Barack Obama
Seconding speeches on behalf of Senator Barack Obama (3)
Call for Roll Call Vote
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker of the US House of Representatives
Permanent Chair, Democratic National Convention
Roll Call Vote
Alice Travis Germond
Secretary of the Democratic National Committee
Remarks
The Honorable Charles Schumer
US Senator, New York
Chair, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
The Honorable Tom Udall
Member of the US House of Representatives, New Mexico
The Honorable Jean Shaheen
Former Governor of New Hampshire
Candidate for US Senate
Jeff Merkley
Candidate for US Senate from the State of Oregon
Tom Allen
Candidate for the US Senate from the State of Maine
Hour # 4 5:00 PM – 6:00 PM (LOCAL)
Remarks
The Honorable Richard M. Daley
Mayor of Chicago, Illinois
The Honorable Robert Wexler
Member of the US House of Representatives, Florida
Video – The Course of Our Nation
Brittany Washington
A student at Howard University in Washington, DC from Los Angeles, California
Women of the US House of Representatives
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker of the US House of Representatives
Permanent Chair, Democratic National Convention
The Honorable Rosa DeLauro
Member of the US House of Representatives, Connecticut
The Honorable Nita Lowey
Member of the US House of Representatives, New York
The Honorable Hilda Solis
Member of the US House of Representatives, California
The Honorable Louise Slaughter
Member of the US House of Representatives, New York
The Honorable Maxine Waters
Member of the US House of Representatives, California
The Honorable Kathy Castor
Member of the US House of Representatives, Florida
The Honorable Lois Capps
Member of the US House of Representatives, California
Remarks
The Honorable Elijah Cummings
Member of the US House of Representatives, Maryland
Mark Docherty
Veteran and a firefighter from Sterling Heights, Michigan
The Honorable James Clyburn
Member of the US House of Representatives, South Carolina
The Honorable Manuel Diaz
Mayor of Miami, Florida
The Honorable Jay Rockefeller
US Senator, West Virginia
Live Performance
Melissa Etheridge accompanied by Phillip Sayce (guitar)
Award-winning singer/songwriter
Video – First Time Delegates: Renewing America’s Promise
Remarks
The Honorable Harry Reid
US Senator, Nevada
Senate Majority Leader
CSM Michele S. Jones, US Army (Ret.)
First female command sergeant major of the US Army
The Honorable Patrick Murphy
Member of the US House of Representatives, Pennsylvania
Joined by Iraq war veterans
The Honorable Madeleine Albright
Former Secretary of State
America’s Town Hall – Economy
Moderator: The Honorable Joe Sestak
Member of the US House of Representatives, Pennsylvania
Panelists: Kathy Roth-Douquet, CSM John Estrada, Collin McMahon,
Representative Ellen Tauscher/California
Remarks
The Honorable Evan Bayh
US Senator, Indiana
Xiomara Rodriguez
Nevada delegate and retired member of the US Coast Guard
The Honorable Jack Reed
US Senator, Rhode Island
The Honorable Tom Daschle
Former US Senator and Senate Minority Leader, South Dakota
Hour # 5 7:00 PM – 8:00 PM (LOCAL)
Remarks
The Honorable Bill Clinton
Former President of the United States
Beth Robinson
Stay-at-home mom from Hampton Roads, Virginia
The Honorable John Kerry
US Senator, Massachusetts
Lt. Gen. Claudia Kennedy, US Army (Ret.)
First woman to achieve the rank of three star general in the US Army
The Honorable Bill Richardson
Governor of New Mexico
Video – Changing The Course of Our Nation
John Melvin
Iraq war veteran from DeWitt, Iowa
Veterans Video and Remarks
The Honorable Chet Edwards
Member of the US House of Representatives, Texas
Hour # 6 8:00 PM – 9:00 PM (LOCAL)
Remarks
Tammy Duckworth
Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs
Helicopter pilot and wounded Iraq war veteran
Vice Presidential Nomination
Remarks and nominating speech
Seconding speech
Vice Presidential Nominee
The Honorable Senator Joe Biden
US Senator, Delaware
Benediction
Sister Catherine Pinkerton
Congregation of St. Joseph’s in Cleveland, Ohio
Recess
The Honorable Leticia Van de Putte
State Senator from Texas
Co-Chair, Democratic National Convention
SOURCE 2008 Democratic National Convention Committee
http://www.demconvention.com
The second link is
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/
Does anyone know when the Roll Call is supposed to happen? I have to go to work so could miss it?
1gypsy4mc & PortiaElizabeth
No problem
SO PROUD OF PUMAS!!!!!!!!!!!
I just found this over at Bitter Politicz:
One of Uppity Woman’s posts has a comment on the significance of the orange pantsuit. Seems that’s the color the Ukrainian revolutionaries would wear to protest the rigged selection/ not election process they were forced to endure. Ya thinkd Bill and Hillary Clinton would be smart enough to make a statement like this? Hell yes!! And it would fly right over that idiot’s head. The most incredibly classy version of flipping BO the bird we’ll ever see!
I’m sure there’s a meaning for every colour.
Donal Trump thinks Hillary should ditch the party! He said her speech was excellent!
Hillarys speech convinced me more than ever that we are in this for the right reasons. To preserve fair elections for the future and our children….yes I’m in it for that. For the parent that had her hours cut back and the child that was worried…to fight against Obamas Taxes that will destroy small businesses causing job loss and homelessness for children…yes, I’m in it for that. For that soldier that needs a real leader that that will take care of his buddies, and really cares about the safety of the troops and would never fail to visit wounded soldiers…yes, I’m in it for that. For that woman with cancer that had incredible confidence and faith that Hillary could make healthcare affordable because she was the most capable, intelligent, and qualified Presidential candidate….Yes, I’m in it for that.
For all the right reasons, I’m a PUMA. Keep on fighting and don’t give up…and we won’t! Principle and country before party.
Unity? Will Obama be my candidate? Absolutely not. Hillary had massive debt and he didn’t lift a finger to help her pay it off, Obama said “NO WAY, NO HOW, NO HILLARY. I suspect he’ll want to make a grandiose gesture and a spectacle of paying her debt off, but for me it will be a meaningless and insincere attempt to get my vote and to appear as the uniter.”NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA…I won’t be swayed by you, you can’t buy my vote, it’s mine and not for sale!
I’m sure that in the blogs you will find a letter to Hillary or a post that contains the phrase, from a PUMA that Hillary adapted for her speech, the original quote was “NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA”.
#235 1gypsy4mc.
Love the Donald.
BBL.
Is it true that President Clinton will no longer be speaking on Thursday?
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See post 229 for schedule. It looks like roll call will be between 3-5pm Denver Time.
Good Morning PUMAS!
Last night I posted a video a made for Hillary Clinton.
Please watch your fellow PUMAS video…(I recently wrote a song specifically for her that I am going to quickly record and release with a greater video.
Never Give Up PUMAS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aWzwgGBa4
#6 snowtiger
Good morning PUMA’s
I just watched Lord of the democrats, thanks for posting, it was great.
I think the guy on the white horse was wearing a PUMA t-shirt.
Once again, Hillary had me in tears.
4 bittersweet, celebratory, unforgettably heartbreaking occasions — June 1 (blowout win in Puerto Rico), June 3 (final primary win in South Dakota), June 14 (campaign suspension), August 26 (88th Women’s Equality Day) — 4 compelling, spellbinding speeches that will ring through history.
No, Hillary, I wasn’t working all this time just for you.
I was working for ALL women, and all people, everywhere, for all time — so supporting Obama is NOT an option.
Hillary 2012!!
That was Hillary’s message to us. KEEP RUNNING. Never give up. Never quit.
Thank You Hillary for all the inspiration. You will remain in my heart with love always.
I have not given up and will continue to support America first. I will vote McCain in your honor. I will never vote for Obama the Communist.
Go Hillary Go
I sure don’t know how anyone could demonize Hillary after that speech.It was electrifying. I couldn’t stay awake last night but watched it on You tube first thing this morning. Yes, here in Florida,we had a primary. All the candidates called. I told themIcould not just support the party line anymore since the DNC has decided my vote does not count.Told them todiscuss it with their party leaders.The turnout was pitiful.
1voice2stopcorruption on 08.27.08 at 7:46 am Good Morning PUMAS!
Last night I posted a video a made for Hillary Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aWzwgGBa4
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Just too much. The tears flowed through the entire video. I hope it wins a gold medal. I just have to cry. I can not stop the tears from flowing.
Go Hillary Go
GOOD MORNING PUMAs!!
Wow! When I finally left last night there were so many new names, and now this AM there are even more.
I think Donald Trump is a PUMA.
What a day – and fasten your seatbelts because I think we are in for another history making day!
“We must be doing something right”
SO VERY PROUD OF ALL OF US!
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTgwZTVmN2QyNzk2MmUxMzA5OTg0ODZlM2Y2OGI0NDM=
Chicago Annenberg Challenge Shutdown?
A cover-up in the making?
By Stanley Kurtz
The problem of Barack Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers will not go away. Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn were terrorists for the notorious Weather Underground during the turbulent 1960s, turning fugitive when a bomb — designed to kill army officers in New Jersey — accidentally exploded in a New York townhouse. Prior to that, Ayers and his cohorts succeeded in bombing the Pentagon. Ayers and Dohrn remain unrepentant for their terrorist past. Ayers was pictured in a 2001 article for Chicago magazine, stomping on an American flag, and told the New York Times just before 9/11 that the notion of the United States as a just and fair and decent place “makes me want to puke.” Although Obama actually launched his political career at an event at Ayers’s and Dohrn’s home, Obama has dismissed Ayers as just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” and “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.” For his part, Ayers refuses to discuss his relationship with Obama
REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS
Good Morning Kerri and my fellow Pumas!
I can’t be on the blog long as I have a tennis match at 9:30. I did want to stress that we can continue to call the delegates. Ricki Lieberman said even though Debbie Wasserman Schultz switched to Obama, that we must bombard her office and demand a roll call and that she vote for Hillary on the first ballot. Schultz is the leader of the FL delegates. Let her know she needs to back a qualified woman and if she doesn’t, she wont get women’s votes when she runs for re-election. (202) 226-2052
Also, continue to call Charlie Rangell’s office (202) 225-4365 and tell him the same thing we’re telling Debbie. The jerk had the nerve to speak to the NY delegates yesterday and said Hillary wants them to vote for BO. No way, keep calling him.
And please, keep reposting this so others can also do this. Thanks
Good Morning you Wonderful PUMAs,
After a night’s sleep following that magnificent speech of Hillary’s, I am more convinced than ever that SHE is the most amazing woman of our time. She was stellar last night and, as others have said, she demonstrated why she should have been the nominee. On the news they were saying that there must have been “buyer’s remorse” amongst the delegates after that speech. I am also so proud to be affiliated with this group–we have known about Hillary’s brilliance and leadership all along as well as the corruption in this election that undermined her nomination. Others have dismissed us and our mission, but the truth will come out–be patient. As Murphy says, “Keep Running” and don’t give up. God bless you, PUMAs!
Hillary did a great job, glad she showed them who was the best person to run this country.
Also, Murphy, again, thank you so much for starting this website. We are eternally grateful. I am so proud of you and our fellow Pumas fighting for the cause in Denver. I loved the pics from photobucket, nice to see more faces with the names. Finally got to see prplvette!
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/08/senator-obamas-western-hating-opec.html
#8 Elaine
Re: Media references that you requested
Elaine, Elizabeth Joyce, of Just Say No Deal, spoke on Larry King Live last night. She did an outstanding job.
25 tiggboriqua on 08.27.08 at 1:40 am http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/all-comments/#comments
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This is what I posted I heard last night at 12:10 a.m. on Greta wire. She was interviewing the guy Stanley from National Review. He said he just got the papers from the library and said this does NOT look good for Obama. I have the interview taped on my dvr.
Gretat told him to keep digging through those papers and come back and tell her because she is enormously interested in this and would like to talk to Senator Obama about it.
“The traveling pantsuits” you never gave up you never gave in.
Brian Williams is delusional. We reject BO as the presumptive nominee because he cheated. The only way he can redeem himself is by leaving the race.
MSM – Our nation is a democracy which means one person, one vote. It cannot be gamed by anyone or any party. The days are gone with backroom deals. We are in the age of the Internet.
SENATOR CLINTON EARNED THE VOTES OF 18 MILLION AMERICANS. SENATOR OBAMA CANNOT GOVERN A NATION WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. HE DOESN’T HAVE IT NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS IN A SPEECH.
Every time that anyone on NBC or MSNBC opens their mouth, I feel like I’m in a third world country. The entire crew at the Peacock Network needs to be detoxed.
Thanks I couldn’t have said it better, thanks Murphy and all the PUMA’s, I can’t wait to see Bill tonight, Hillary was “SENATIONAL!” I hear so many people that are very afraid for this country if BO is elected, fear is what he represents.
This AA is always for Hillary!!
Great Pictures, Wish I Was There!!
#27 mick
Thanks for your insight. It makes a great deal of sense.
Thank you PUMAS in Denver and everywhere.
HILLARY was spectacular last evening.
# 240…Thank you so much for reposting this beautiful video. I was watching in the wee hours last night and was very moved. I love the song too.
#240…Please let us know when you will be releasing the new video with song !
#114 SouthJerseyPUMA – We ARE proud of you guys in Denver!
I am sitting at Mamapuma’s computer with Murphy’s daughter and neice. We are watching Hillary’s speech from last night. They are cheering and I am crying.
“My mother was born before women could vote. My daughter was able to vote for her mother for president.”
So much has happened in just two short generations. I can’t help but wonder what changes will happen by the time they are grown up like Chelsea.
And yes she was talking to all of you when she said, “Don’t give up. Don’t back down.” America wasn’t built by quitters. Didn’t you see Bill and Chelsea’s faces?? They stood up and started cheering!!
It is a shame that we wont be able to vote for her. But maybe God has bigger and better plans for her. The President of the United States is not the only job where you can make a difference in this world. She will continue to work hard and make this country, and the world, a better place for all of us, not just women!!
Hillary:
“And on that path to freedom, Harriett Tubman had one piece of advice.
If you hear the dogs, keep going.
If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.
If they’re shouting after you, keep going.
Don’t ever stop. Keep going.
If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.
Even in the darkest of moments, ordinary Americans have found the faith to keep going.
I’ve seen it in you. I’ve seen it in our teachers and firefighters, nurses and police officers, small business owners and union workers, the men and women of our military — you always keep going.
We are Americans. We’re not big on quitting.”
Look for the transcripts on Greta Wire. They were not posted last night after the interview because it took place at 12:07 a.m.
Hillary spoke to us last night and I still say the color of her pantsuit was the PUMA colors and I’m convinced she did that on purposed. You guys are getting alot of exposure in Denver. I’m sure someone on her staff picked that up…
Never give up, never give in – keep running…
Murphy – did you ever connect with Gloria Allred?
Since today is the day o the roll call should we be trying to leave messages for the delegates supporting them and maybe adding the section of the rules pertaining to the votes?
We have all of the hotel faxes
http://www.nationaljournal.com/conventions/co_20080821_3019.php
#76 Kerri on 08.27.08 at 2:09 am – What was drawing MO’s ire is that Hillary got all that applause that wouldn’t stop and Hillary didn’t say what the Obama campaign wanted her to say: how she now thinks he has the experience to be Pres., etc etc. Her speech really was about her, with BO’s name thrown in periodically. Good for her…
Did anybody see after Hillary’s speech on CNN that female Hillary supporter. It was very emotional. I felt her pain. Is there a video of her?
WE WILL REMEMBER DENVER IN NOVEMBER!!!
This was in my mailbox this morning.
Dear ——–,
Standing on that stage tonight in front of 20,000 Democrats unified behind Senator Obama, I saw a bright future for America. I saw millions of people across the country working as one to elect the next Democratic President. I saw a new President and a new Congress giving a voice to the voiceless. I saw America, the land of endless potential, regaining its role as a leader in the world.
I couldn’t be prouder of our party, of our nominee, and of all the work you and I have done together over the course of this campaign on behalf of the American people.
I knew that as I stood in front of that podium, I wasn’t alone. I had you, and everyone who has supported me, standing right up there with me. And that means the world to me.
Thank you again for everything you’ve done. Now let’s get to work helping elect Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and all of our great Democratic candidates!
Sincerely,
Hillary
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She was a classy lady last night. She was true to her party, her delegates, her supporters and true to herself. Her message was in the words of Harriet Tubbman…”Keep going, keep going, keep going.”
#261…sisterpuma. I am with you. She is destined to make a difference in this world and it may not be as President.
I heard that Bill is scheduled to speak between 7 and 8 Denver time (9 -10 eastern). Then Biden will end it.
#266 Caracal Carrie
Sounds like a good PROWL. It is time. Our last one was on August 19.
Morning everyone. I responded to Hillary’s “support Obama” email this morning with my usual: “Dear Hillary, Great speech last night – you should have been the Democratic nominee. As I’ve said all along: there’s no way in hell I will cast my vote for Barack Obama.”
I know we’re all focused on the delegate count, but I have to so something after last night to plan even further ahead. In the Wall Street Journal this morning, it is stated that a “former Clinton worker, political consultant, and longtime friend of Senator Clinton” named Jamie Brazil is now directing a coalition called “Citizens for McCain” which has branches in many targeted states and counties.
Does anyone know anything about this? I remember that someone mentioned a man whose last name was Kunst, a Democrat working against Obama in Miami Beach (I’m in Miami), but I’m not sure what he’s doing or how to contact him. I can’t tell you all the number of people down here I’ve spoken to who will vote for McCain but are unwilling to say so in public. I want to help create an atmosphere (hello! this is America) where people can say what they think and not be intimidated by fears of being labeled “racist” or accused of wanting four more years of Bush.
I hope mccain and his crew can find that bombshell that we just could not find. He’s got about 70 days to find it. We had over 16 months. If the press just would of done their job, but now we have to hope mccain can find it. We maybe able to help him out too.
272 vadaryl on 08.27.08 at 8:53 am I heard that Bill is scheduled to speak between 7 and 8 Denver time (9 -10 eastern). Then Biden will end it.
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I think Biden already ended it.
Just remember this PUMAs–those who are relegated to the fringes or designated as “mad” are generally those who are visionary and are truth tellers! We ARE the ones no one was expecting! Kudos to all PUMAs –Murphy, Mama and Maryland our fearless leaders.
PUMAs comments needed here!
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/08/27/clinton-speech-moves-democrats-toward-unity-but-hasnt-clinched-it/
#276 Middle age female Biden’s choice put a fork in this. It’s hard watching the party go down hill right infront of out eyes and there is nothing we can do about it right now. It’s sad that this bad choice is now in the hands of these delegates with the funny hats, just dancing and having a good time. I think some of them don’t realize how much power they had and are blowing it. What a shame!!!
Go morning Pumas! What a great speech last night. Even my grandkids were watching with me. I am even more heartbroken this morning, then I was on June 3. Well Hillary I say NO Way, No How, Noboma, No-vember!
Thanks MCR
I feel like we should be doing something and today is our last chance to make sure they know to do the right thing.
I am not voting for Obama. And I am not voting McCain.
I am sorry but Hillary said it herself. “No Way. No How. No McCain.”
Sorry Pumas. We all have to do what we feel is right.
#278….here’s my comment…somehow ended up being first….would have put more pizz zaz on it had i known that
Hillary told me one thing last night. “Never give up, never give in”. And I won’t. I will not give up my vote to the Chosen One, to stay within party lines. I will not give in to the consistant badgering of the DNC and vote for their boy. I will, now, for sure, after the way this convention is being orchestrated, vote for McCain. He does not agree with all my views, but at least I KNOW what he will do in office. I cannot vote for an individual that I do not trust. Period.
If you want to hear a delegate speak about last night, he is a hillary delegate but will support BHO down the road.
http://radio.webstream.net/radio_player_large.cfm?stationCallSign=WWPR
NO Way…..NO How….NO Obama!!!!!!!!!!
282 4Hillary – no problem. We all have the same end goal – NO OBAMA!!! How we get there is an individual decision.
They are taking calls.
ok I am still upset about last night but this morning I had a big grin on my face when I read that Hillary did not send her final speech to the dnc (do not count) or Bo for approval. They had no idea what she was going to say in the end. Maybe that’s why Mo and the other cronies were looking rather pale.
4 Hillary
I am not voting for either one of them either
As a young girl I learned “No means no.” The words are very clear. And I am not going to pretend now that “No means yes.” I will not send that message to my little girl. Sorry.
My two cents;
Nobama/Nobiden/November
4 Hillary….then you want Nobama????
Hillary said what she had to say!!!
Not voting for McCain doesn’t mean we want Obama. Not voting for McCan means we don’t want either and have no candidate we feel we can support…speaking for myself anyway.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
electoral map: Obama’s totals are the same, McCain’s have increased
odds for Obama winning have come down.
The Roll Call starts today at 5:00, fox reporting that they don’t know if the states are going to be allowed to call out their votes for Hillary yet. Also, Bill scheduled to give speech at 7:00 to 8:00. If they don’t let the delegates call our the votes I hope all HELL breaks loose when Bill comes out.
From everything I’ve seen so far I’m truly convinced Michelle Obama is running the show. She is the one that decided who the VP pick would be. She comes across (at times) as a very aggressive bitter woman. She will do all the deciding for her husband and he will docilely agree, make no mistake about that. I’ve seen both of them in interviews together she is the leader of the two and the decider. I just can’t imagine her running this country with all the bent up anger she has and unable to hide most of the time. Obama is immature with a dominating wife that controls his every move. As we have all seen, Obama isn’t strong enough to take the least bit of criticism without caving and whining. Michelle isn’t professional enough to hide her bitter personality and would be outraged if anyone even suggested she try to conform. Obama certainly wouldn’t be able to and the first lady of this country needs all the control she can muster.
I’ll give Laura Bush credit for always being professional in public. Can you imagine putting up with George Bush and still keep a pleasant smile on your face? Michelle is too bitter and angry to even come close.
Good morning everyone got my little guy off to school this morning so I wanted to pop on and see what the buzz is this morning. 4Hillary that is your choice don’t be sorry, for some of us it’s a easy choice, for some it’s harder but we know what we are going to do. You have to do what you feel is right for me if it’s not Hillary it will be McCain.
Morning Trish!!!!!!!!
For those of us receiving the email from Hillary -please respond.
I responded with a message of endearment and support followed by:
“No Way No How No Bama!”
(From reading the posts, it seems to have become our motto today)
This is our chance to send a clear message . I feel sure they are checking our replies
So if my daughter tells some jerk “No!” then he can take that she is just saying what she has to say, and really means yes? I don’t think so.
I am saying No to Obama. And I am saying No to McCain. I am have been a Hillary supporter for a long time and I am not turning back now.
Was just watching fox news and Megan Kelly said she watched Clinton supporters(about a 5 rows worth) all in Hillary gear just sitting there watching no clapping no nothing then when Hillary came out they clapped and got excited,after Hillary they sat again so Megan walked over and asked them so are you doing as Hillary asked are you convinced are you voting Obama and they all said NO.
#268 here is your video
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Delegate Ann Price Mills sums it all up
We are all Hillary supporters and there are none of us turning back, If Obama gets in…there will never be a Hillary Clinton President of these United States.
I am insulted that some of you think our girl can be pushed around by Obama. You are not giving her the credit she deserves. What a shame.
Hillary is a Democrat and doing what she has to do!! Do you really think Hillary thinks Obama will be a good President….NOT!!!
Our girl is being pushed around by Obama and the DNC!!! They are in control!!!
MURPHY AND JESSI ARE QUOTED IN AN ARTICLE IN TODAY’S LOCAL NYC NEWSPAPER AMNY:
http://www.amny.com/news/local/am-hillary0827,0,7878072.story
NYCgirl
#221 MadLogic on 08.27.08 at 7:20 am – Thanks for the link to the photos. Look at the big orange sign in back of Hillary. She wore that orange pantsuit for a reason. While she was saying how she was 100% behind BO, she was telling us something different. No one picked it up. Except us.
I just heard on Fox that Bruce Springstein and Bon Jovi will not perform at Invesco Field.
I just replied to Hillary’s email:
Dear Senator Clinton:
As usual, your speech last night touched my heart. As much as I love and respect you I will listen to one important thing you said, “keep going”.
I will keep going as far away from Obama as I can, “No Way, No How, No Obama!”.
With love and respect,
Carole
Looks like Gerry is selling out also!!
I do not think Obama would be a good president and I would never vote for him. But Hillary is a woman first, and a strong woman at that.
I refuse to believe that she would allow herself to be used as a tool. She’s an intelligent woman that fought hard and has earned my respect. Maybe she has not earned anyone elses respect but she has certainly earned mine.
Go vote:
http://www.amny.com/news/local/am-hillary0827,0,7878072.story
DON’T BE DISHEARTENED FELLOW PUMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE are strong and determined and where there is a will there is a way and it is not over yet…not even close!
Remember that even if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination today that this is about so so so much more…it is about US!
There are many options that we have not ventured into yet. One is that WE have the option in most States to do a write-in and have our own list of electoral delegates. I will have all this information available next week for you.
And then we go on to create Constitutional ELECTION REFORM that actually respects the citizens of the U.S.
PUMAS STAY STRONG….WE HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN!!!!!
Please let’s not bicker! We all respect Hillary – that’s why we’re here! Now it’s a matter of keeping Obama out of office. Keeping him out of the White House has nothing to do with not respecting Hillary!
#298 MadLogic
Morning to you too, i feel like crap this morning, didn’t sleep cause i was too ticked off, i’ll pay for that today. I hope Bill tells it like it is today, he has nothing to lose in doing so. morons running the government, my only joy is in knowing bo and the dnc will be brought down in November. And watching their faces as they pack their bags and go back to the daily grind without the cameras and fanfare and we should never forget what they did to not just Hillary and Bill but all of America
Welcome to the new American way!
Hillary has my total respect!!! She isn’t stupid and is doing what she has to do!! Hillary is a Politician!! That is the way the game is played. Believe me it is a game.
Does anyone know how we are doing on the signatures???
I hear you Leosroar and I agree with you about keeping Obama out. But “No means no” and I heard it loud and clear last night. No McCain.
#302 will13smith Thanks for finding that video of that delegate, each time I hear it, I feel the pain.
Keep up the efforts Puma. Nothing has changed–Hillary is my first choice and McCain is my second.
We are protecting our young from an inexperienced, questionable candidate. This is a noble cause that deserves our attention.
4Hillary: I respect your opinion, but here’s my dilemma: if BO gets the Dem nomination and McC gets the Republican nomination how do we keep BO out without voting McC? In our voting system, a vote for a 3rd party or a no vote either helps the candidate we want to hurt or is a waste…..
gotta go be back later take care everyone (mother in law has to go to eye doctor).
Dick Morris is an (_!_)
Can’t stand that guy!
OBAMA’S NUMBERS AREN’T GOOD
From Ricki Lieberman – those of you who have not seen this info:
Rasmussen: Obama 44%, McCain 44% McCain gets Bounce during Obama Convention
Gallup: Obama 44%, McCain 46% No Bounce for Obama in Post-Biden Tracking This is the first time since Obama clinched the nomination in early June that McCain has held any kind of advantage over Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.
All,
As we come into the “home stretch”, please look at the polling, post-Biden. As a mentor of mine used to say, “Don’t get seduced by your own propaganda”. For all the glitter and hoopla in Denver, Obama still is not “sealing the deal” with the American voters.
IF, and there are lots of ifs. IF the 18 million Hillary voters are accurately represented in Denver (haven’t been replaced, threatened or flipped) and vote representing the people who sent them to Denver, and IF the Super Delegates vote for ELECTABIITY, their only job, THEN…
IF this could not happen, why are BO and the DNC so afraid of a full open roll call, consistent with proud Democratic tradition?
Pledged Delegates and Super Delegates, please think about it. Hillary supporters – in the coming hours, please help them think about it as well.
To MA VOTERS:
If you are changing your party affiliation FROM Democrat you can change it after Obama’s nomination to ” no Party”. This will allow you to request either ballot for the MA Primary, thus enabling you to vote against Kerry. The local town hall told me that if I were to choose “Independent”, then I wouldn’t be able to vote in Primaries.
If you can’t see yourself voting for McCain in November,
consider Nader/Gonzalez, McKinney/Clemente, or other alternatives. The important thing to to refuse to allow Obama to profit from his deceptions and coercion.
Well sent a fax to the hotel of the Indiana delegates reminding them one last time Indiana has binding voting laws and asking them to encourage any other delegate who is on the fence to vote for Hillary.
SEMANTICS
Supporting Obama is not the same as casting your vote for him as a Delegate. Clinton knows better than to tell her delegates how to vote. She says how she will vote. She askes her delegates to support BO. She is not telling them how to vote.
Suspending a campaign is not the same as conceding.
Wednesday, August 27,
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 44% of the vote for the second straight day. When “leaners” are included, though, McCain picked up another point since yesterday and now has a statistically insignificant one-point advantage over Obama, 47% to 46%
I will be voting for McCain for 2 reasons:
1. Obama in office is one of the scariest things I can imagine
2. If Obama wins its all over for Hillary in 2012
#316 TrishfromCanada.
I hope you feel better. Puma seems to be having a lone battle with the DNC/MSM, but soon the RNC will start their campaign as well.
#293 Caracal Carrie
I hear you, I am not thrilled about it either, HOWEVER, if you do not vote for McCain, IT WILL BE A VOTE FOR OB. I don’t like it either, but, we MUST do what it best for our Country! hold your nose if you have to but think about it
Hey PUMAS
I have a little task/game for you.
Let’s call it the “Violations Game”.
How many VIOLATIONS to the laws of the U.S./States can you come up concerning the DNC. Here are just a starter few. Keep adding to it and let’s see how large it gets.
Violations: breach of public trust
breach of contract/fraud
breach of “integrity of the electoral process”
Not a “Private Club” by accepting $50 million+ from U.S. government for security and other acpects of convention, and use of Public funds and facilities to hold primaries/caucuses
infringement of voters rights ? (this is a real touchy one because the individual really has no/limited “absolute” voter rights…the rights of election are constitutionally given to the States (the governing entity of the states) the individual is only secondary to this……I’ll be posting a full article on this next week on this issue on my blog HillDem.blogspot.com….it was a big surprise to me and many contradictions in the Constitution.)
How about Racketeering also.
Keep the faith friends…..we have just begun!
If anyone else wants to send a fax I can repost the links to the fax numbers at any time. We really need to make sure they are thinking about their jobs today.
GM Folks
Hillary was FANTASTIC!
How can Delegates not vote for this GREAT CANDIDATE!
She is the best person to lead this country in the right direction.
THIS IS A REPOST FROM LAST NIGHT:
Hi, PUMAs,
What a rockin’ speech she gave! Re: that pantsuit: In spiritual terms, the color orange represents “physical energy” — and Hill certainly was energized tonight!
IMO, her speech tonight — even with the artificial and forced references to “President Obama” — was the best ad for the PUMA movement that anyone could have given to us! If ANYONE watching that speech did not realize afterwards that the DNC is selecting the WRONG nominee, then that person needs help!
Hillary was ablaze! I am so happy to be a New Yorker and one of her constituents! If she runs for the Senate again as she has said she will, I will work on her campaign. And if she runs again for POTUS in 2012, I will be right there. She has certainly set the stage for her next presidential candidacy by showing up every other tired Democrat who took the stage before her! And WE KNOW that Oblahblah can’t top Hillary — Springsteen, Bon Jovi — no matter.
And yes, I thought when she said “No way, no how –” that she was going to say “NOBAMA!” That would have been out of control! Yes, Bill was mouthing “I love you, Hillary” when she took the stage — he was all choked up. That must have been incredible to see her live in that auditorium.
I received my Ralph Nader gear today. If Hill is not the nominee, then I will vote for Nader and wear his button proudly. In the past few days I have been stopped on the street by anxious Obots who see my Hillary button and ask me if I will be voting for Obama. When I say “No”, they are VERY worried! Excellent!
I have on my PC desktop the picture of Hill in the black jacket in the pouring rain. That is inspirational to me. She is amazing, and she has said once again “Keep going!” She cannot blame us for fighting for her to the bitter end! She created us PUMAs by example.
“Welcome back to the fight. This time, I know our side will win.”
THANK YOU, HILLARY CLINTON. WE’LL TAKE IT FROM HERE.
… even if it takes another four years to get there.
NYCgirl Rodham Puma
WE have NO CHOICE.
We must vote McCain to stop Obama.
Voting for Hillary will not even be counted. The states will not count votes unless the candidate requests they be counted. It is a total wasted vote. Not voting is a wasted opportunity to stop Obama.
We must vote McCain. We have no choice.
Besides I like McCains Energy Policy of supporting all forms of energy as fast as possible. That is really very sensible.
If we PUMA oppose Obama who says he does not need us. And then if he wins he crushes us. He will have proved he did not need us. We must prove he needs us by defeating him.
Nader does not do it either. We have no choice but to vote McCain. He is a loyal American. He is NOT BUSH. he is more his own man. He is more a centrist. He is not right wing.
Obama is Communist and extreme left wing. He uses power like a Communist to crush all resistance. We must not allow him to get more power or all Americans will be crushed. NOW is the time to fight with all we have. Hillary told us to not give up. She knows the fight. Her proper place is to maintain a link to the party so once Obama is defeated she can rise up. If she leaves the party we will have no one to carry the banner.
Hillary has her job and we have our job. Do not waver. We must defeat all Communists.
I, in effect “despise” Dick Morris, but at this moment I could figuratively hug him for his wonderful words on FOX describing Hillary’s address. I hope someone can put his words up for all to hear. There can not possibly be a better description of her address last night.
Can you imagine what would happen if BO’s teleprompter broke as he was speaking? The world would see what we all have seen, an empty prop for Pelolsi/Reid and Dean, we will look like a banana republic!
Hillary’s speech last night just reaffirmed why I want her to be our president that much more. She was wonderful! She is a true president, not that piece of crap *61!! I will NEVER, NEVER vote for *61. The PUMA orange looked great on her!!
Murphy,
Is there anything else that we can do from home to help?? Please let me know.
Thank you to everyone that is in Denver fighting for all of us! You have no clue how much that I do appreciate you all for everything that you have done. Keep up the great work and stay safe today!
Melissa
WV PUMA PAC Democrat
338 lilibet on 08.27.08 at 9:46 am I, in effect “despise” Dick Morris, but at this moment I could figuratively hug him for his wonderful words on FOX describing Hillary’s address. I hope someone can put his words up for all to hear. There can not possibly be a better description of her address last night.
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I thought the same thing. Could not believe that Morris actually gave Hillary a back handed compliment.
post at: Clinton speech moves Democrats toward unity, but hasn’t clinched it, http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/08/27/clinton-speech-moves-democrats-toward-unity-but-hasnt-clinched-it/#comment-2828 (better articles are being written by staffers vs big political pundit names I have noticed for a while, junior reporters on the floor get mikes into the crowd to report on the roll call fiasco and are quickly cut off in favor of the pundits) One more post for PUMA and Hill, one last push on the last day before the “vote”
I am one of many millions of voters who will NOT vote for Obama. I am a member of the JustSayNoDeal coalition with several hundred sites and blogsites. The irregularities of the primaries, the smelly facts about Obama’s behavior in the past, distant and recent, the covert internet tactics his campaign has been using, the association of him with possibly illegal get out the vote organizations making FEC filings, which have been detailed on these sites have pushed me towards McCain and away from Obama. It was absoutely clear to me after listening to Clinton’s SUSPENSION speech that there was no way Obama could win; without her at the top of the ticket, there was no another Democratic candidate that could take it all. He revealed himself too much for the revelations to be forgotten.
Televised news and analysis HAS become entertainment, Obama might make for a good story, if the media buys all he says without checking the truthfullness of it. Print media have by and large signalled their support for Obama; “stories” and “analysis” contain no objectivity, for the most part. It has all bought in to superdelegates having decided who the nominee would be, thay they would stay committed regardless of chances of Obama winning in the general, and that his nomination is a foregone conclusion.
JustSayNoDeal and PUMAPac have filled the void. They have become a cyber gathering space for the millions who question Obama’s fitness to be president. Neither the DNC nor the RNC can control this process of citizens TAKING power in to their OWN hands.
Thank you for writing a piece that is illuminating what is going on outside the official party fence.
Does anyone have an emil address for Bill Clinton
I am going to email him and ask him to be a no show tonight if Hillary does not get a roll call vote.
The other reason I will not vote for McCain is because he voted against funding for law enforcement programs, including the Office of Violence Against Women programs and the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Hillary is my first reason. But my second reason is he is bad for women. Sorry.
all too often I type up a great message and this web page bombs when I try to enter the message and it is lost. it does not save the message back on the page. I hope the software can be fixed
Someone from puma was asked on Morning Joe on mSNBC if Hillary convinced them to nvote for Barry, she said no.
I loved her speech last night. I cried watching it. Bill was so sweet, I saw him mouth “I love you forever” as she was beginning. He got such a kick out of all of her humor. It was just beautiful to see their relationship in this context.
I loved her “no way no how,” which I really think was a nod to PUMAs, and Bill laughed pretty hard about it, so I think he felt the same way.
I have been watching the convention through PBS’s Lehrer show. One of the guests, Mark Shields, said after the speech that no one could have expected more from her speech. In other words, she “delivered.” This is masterful, because no one can blame her when Obama falls on his face.
Did you see that even Michelle Obama was moved by Hillary?
Let’s not debate right now about whether to vote McCain, folks. We will have plenty of time for that after the Convention. Right now, let’s stay focused on
HILLARY ‘08
4hillary et al…
In regards to not voting for McCain because Hillary said not to vote for McCain…
I ask you to examine that. I have a daughter too.
I want her to say NO when she means NO but not say NO because someone tells her to.
Hillary said what she had to.
I know this is not a McCain site, I am not happy to vote for McCain but I will do EVREY THING in my power to see that Obama does not get in in November.
That is the LOUD AND CLEAR message I am sending my daughter and my son. Not to stay somewhere because you feel you have nowhere better to go.
I know the republican party isn’t necessarily better but the democratic party has turned into posturing back-room deal-making snakes and I am not going to be part of a party that resembles Iranian or Chinese voting- all for show. I don’t care what Hillary says, I have my own mind.
I have to agree unfortunately with the sentiment that in order to keep BO out of office, we have to vote for McCain. It probably won’t be as bad as some think; remember we have a democratic congress and that will check McCain’s republican tendencies. By the time they all get done fighting, it will be time for Hillary to be president…
#345 GoHillaryGo
I have the problem of being told, “WordPress Error, you are posting too quickly.” I keep refreshing the page until it posts. I use Mozilla Firefox as my internet engine, and that saves my comment in the “error zone” until it can post. Are you getting the same message?
Gallup
A naughty PUMA posted the Gallup Poll trend plot with an expanded scale:
http://denver.craigslist.org/pol/814630272.html
If you look at the trends over time, you can actually see different periods of the campaign. Most interesting is that the trend we are now seeing appears to have started around the time of BO’s ego trip. I would guess that is when the GOP started cranking up their MSM machines. Republicans need to feel in control and they may have got worried about BO’s blip from his trip. However, I doubt the machines are running anywhere near capacity yet.
Do we have any takers on a wager about todays Gallup? Is BO going up, down, or same, relative to McCain?
#348 GOSUE4HILL
Hey, girl, good to see you. I don’t get to blog much lately. I agree with you.
Everyone, we all have the right to vote our conscience, in secret, and we can debate AFTER the convention. Please, keep the energy focused on
HILLARY ‘08
IMAGINE HER TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE. LIGHT A CANDLE AT GRATEFULNESS.ORG
#345 GoHillaryGo.
*Copy your post (Ctrl + C) before submit.
* hold the submit button down a little longer.
It still gets error, but at least you have a saved message. (Ctrl + V) for paste post.
Ok, so Hillary is a tool? I don’t think so. But hey, whatever helps you.
Good mourning Obamatrons.. Ya right…
Now that Hillary has set the Obamas up for the fall will McCain knock them out of the park??
PS: MO can’t say sh*t about Hillary any more and they all must recognize her political chops. Hillary even got MO to applaud us, her supporters and Bill.
And here I thought Hillary was going to be the puppet. Yet it was Machelle dancing on the end of a string. Funny funny funny…
ROAR!!
It is hard to post because there are so MANY more participants now. More PUMA POWER
morning all -
343 mkp651
If no one else has an email for Bill, just wanted to let you know that I contact him through the “contact link” on his website. We used this for a prowl in June.
http://www.clintonfoundation.org
4hilary(sic)………..BO is BAD for women. I like to consider myself a “typical” “white” “sweetie”–all together now.
He is an empty suit. If he wins, then he hurts our 2012 chance with Sen. Clinton.
McCain: he isn’t a doof, I’ll feel safer, I can really get into no higher taxes, and he is honorable. I don’t doubt that he loves America. I think Obama is an empty screen and opportunist like John Edwards. I think he wife dislikes white people (that is just stupid)–she grew up in a home with great income and has been given every opportunity.
Anyway, I’m not a one issue voter. We will have a dem senate and house to check a McCain prez.
It is hard to vote for McCain b/c Sen. Clinton asked us not to and we worked so hard for her (calls, money, signs), but we have to part with her on this one, even though she is sincere in her support.
But, it is harder to vote for the piece of (*&*& that took her away from us and replaced the real deal with an empty, empty image projected on that screen.
Good morning, everyone.
So….are WE still in it to win it? What about the delegates? Is there ANYTHING we can still do?
No bounce so far. McCain picks up a point.
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Email to a FriendAdvertisement
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This is the first time since August 9 that McCain has held any advantage over Obama. The candidates have been within two points of each other on every day but two for the past month (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.
McCain is viewed favorably by 56% of the nation’s voters, Obama by 53% (see trends).
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4Hillary: Please! Be constructive — if you have a counterargument as to how we can keep Obama out of office without voting for McCain, let us know so that we can discuss it. Sarcasm or accusations don’t help us now — we need to take positive action!
Sorry everyone but I am sticking with Hillary.
I will not risk the supreme court justice appoinments that McCain would surely make just to stick it to the DNC. That would make me as bad as them. That is not what our founding fathers would want.
The more I think about it the more I realize that voting out of spite will only do more damage. It’s about the country for me, not the party. I other people will realize that.
We need to stand behind Hillary IMO did you see all the old men all backstabbers just to make sure she said the right things in that convention center. chuck Todd this am said now there won’t be a women for twenty eight years who can get near the white house and he thinks we feel like cement is being put over all the cracks. Will get over it so they say I’ll never vote for a democrat this year This is just me
Murphy,
If there is anything that we can do, please send it to us by an email. I’m not going to be able to be on the computer much.
#358 MsBinMD that is the email address I used. Thank You though. I ask him to tell them to take a flying ????, if she didn’t get her roll call vote.
This whole last week, yesterday and last night took their toll and I woke up really sick this morning. Have a cold from hell with a sore throat and cough. Had to be that because I neither smoke, drink or use drugs of any kind.
But I’m still ready to carry on. A hot cup of tea should do me nicely.
#344 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 9:50 am
#290 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 9:13 am
319 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 9:33 am
This site is supposed to be in existence to say no to Obama and DNC et al; vote the way you want but you need not take up space for anything else.
This convention and the delegate vote is NOT over yet.
#358 MsBinMD
I am going to also call and fax him later when I get my grandkids to school.
#347 Dragonfly – “Did you see that even Michelle Obama was moved by Hillary?”
From the look on MO’s face, it seemed that even SHE was thinking, ‘OMG, what have we done, what have we done…’
*** Delegates and Superdelegates, do the right thing today. Cast your votes for Hillary Rodham Clinton. ***
…else it will RAIN MCCAIN here in Pennsylvania in November and it will be Hillary in 2012!
PUMA Democrat from Pennsylvania
is it possible that when we respond to a post that not only do we copy and paste the name to whom we are responding, but the post number also? it would make backtracking the thread way easier.
Did anyone listen to Ed Hales radio show last night? How much of a chance do you think there is of this injunction actually happening?
Is Murphy trying to reach Gloria Allred? I know Gloria and would be happy to call her.
I am not going to believe for one second that Hillary would pimp out her daughter for a bunch of old men. Not even for the presidency. Hillary would not put Chelsea in that video just because the DNC said so. It just doesn’t make sense.
4Hillary, we are not taking your bait. Have you got positive comments about stoppping Obama now or what?
Is there a prowl today? And yes, how can we assist the delegates? 358 MsBinMD on 08.27.08 at 10:03 am: Thank you..I will write a letter to President Clinton using that e-mail rather than delegate watch because those get posted. Okay with me though.
http://spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13775
Obama Needs More Than Change
By Philip Klein
Published 8/27/2008 3:41:37 AM
Obama’s challenge is not to convince Americans that they need change, but to overcome the public’s reservations about whether he is the man to deliver it. The Democratic National Convention could have been a four-day infomercial to convince skeptics why Barack Obama is ready to be president.
So far, other than a successful speech by Michelle Obama, the convention has largely failed to present a case that will sway undecided voters.
Clinton, who spent her campaign assailing Obama for not being ready to lead the nation, could have used her speech as an opportunity to take back such comments and argue that he really is prepared to be president. Instead, she did the bare minimum she needed to do so that the next time she runs for president, she can claim to be a team player.
If Hillary overshadowed Obama last night, tonight Bill Clinton will be the story, especially since it has been reported that he will not attend Obama’s acceptance speech on Thursday.
The fact that Democrats are having such a difficult time making the case for Obama without attacking President Bush cuts to the underlying problem facing Obama’s candidacy — that he’s a freshman Senator who hasn’t accomplished anything of significance.
#362 Leosroar
Most of us here have been here from the beginning, we have laughed, cried and gotten angry together. Take this however you want, but my opinion is we have a right to be sarcastic, angry and to feel hopeless today. It will pass but I for one will not put on a happy cheerful face just to please people. I’ve earned the right to gripe and if you don’t want to hear it, skip past my posts.
Please stay positive here. Murphy said there was a message and now she has posted the message so let’s keep focused. It is not over. We have PUMA’s in Denver working hard so for those of us at home let’s do what we can. Keep this blog upbeat and do not give trolls any pleasure.
367 LivingGrace
feel better!!!!
i’m sorry you’re achey and got that sore throat thing.
#378 YES YOU HAVE EARNED THAT RIGHT. This has been a long road….but not over.
hillaryhead I said here many times that I would never vote for Obama. So don’t attack me because I support Hillary.
NO OBAMA!!!! There, I said it again!
Good Morning,
Hillary did exactly what she needed to do last night so that she can run in 2012. If we don’t put McCain in there she won’t be able to run in 2012.
And yes, Michelle’s face said it all last night. She is eat up with jealousy. Tickles me. Hillary stole the show as expected.
Hillary’s speech was truly an incredible and memorable event last night. However, at least for me, it didn’t produce the intended result. I don’t feel reunited, just recommitted. Perhaps I might feel differently had Obam won this by honest mean, without the chicanery, and coercion and intimidation by his thugs. But there is just no way on earth I’m going to get behind him or vote for him.
Given the state of world tensions and the state of our economy I believe we are in astruggle for our very survival so, putting my country first, I will have no problem setting aside some differences for the greater good and voting for McCain.
373 hillary2008
i gave gloria murphy’s cell # early evening last night.
hopefully they hook up somehow, somewhere right quick!.
another call would not hurt – please go for it. and then come back and give us the good news that they have already been in touch. that would make our morning!!!!
369 mkp651
Actually I am going to call and see what a “Western Union Telegram” cost.
I remember seeing on here that someone sent a couple yesterday but there are so many posts I forgot who it was.
I want to send one to Barbara Mikulsi our Senator who supported Hillary, and it may be something others can consider as well. Have to see what it cost though.
WHO SENT THEM YESTERDAY!!!
Good Morning Pumas
Got Maryland Puma’s little puma off to school and have just watched the two videos “Ann Price Mills” and “Road of Dreams” and the tears just flowed. Beautiful work on the Road….video and thanks for making it. My heart just went out to Ann Mills. As much as I hate saying this I sorta feel now like I did when I found out that Princess Diana died….I have this lump in my throat that just won’t leave.
We all have to be strong and keep fighting. Last night will go down in the memory books and people’s minds and no one will forget where they were when this speech was made.
Have not heard from Maryland Puma but will do everything I know how from home today to help the cause. People need to know the procedure of changing from Democrat to Independent and what that means.
If we are going to do this on Thursday we need to all unite and do it in one big moment which will make time stop. So whoever is an expert let’s hear it.
THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO ALL THOSE IN DENVER AND ON THIS BOARD WHO ARE WORKING SO HARD TO MAKE A BETTER AMERICA.
ALSO IF ANYONE KNOWS IF THERE IS A COMPLETE COPY OF HILLARY’S SPEECH PLEASE POST WHERE TO GET IT
KEEP THE FAITH AND GOD BLESS!
MARYLAND PUMA…….CALL ME
4Hillary – Click on the ABOUT link at the top of this post. Clearly explains our goals and the purpose of this blog.
Hello again, I read several of the articles and a few mention McCain better do something, in one way or another to get women into the process. I agree I have been pushing Sarah Palin for his VP pick, can you all take a look at her and the links to wiki and other(s) she is awesome! And if you agree please go to McCains site (blog) or e-mail the campaign and let them know , You want Sarah Palin as VP! But if you disagree with it, that’s ok. I really think Sarah Palin is a real person and would help out Quite a bit! Here is a link if you want pictures or other info. http://www.smellslikebo.com/blog/blog1.php?p=52&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 or just do a search on Wiki. thanks for your time!
#387
ADDITION TO ….I want a video copy of the actual live speech since I missed it.
Tks
Bill’s face seemed to convey a message to keep on fighting and MO’s face just couldn’t lose the mask of hatred and contempt. I never saw her smile once until afterward when someone was speaking directly to her.
387 Crusaders Cross
good morning. and bless all our pumas in denver.
we need to be careful about reregistering as independants. in some states that is not a good plan. we jbjd -
Just to make it crystal clear I do not support Obama. I never have and I never will.
At the same time I know that acting out of spite is never the right thing to do. So I will not be voting for McCain, either.
Must Watch!
In case you missed it:
Harriet Christian for McCain,DNC,Denver,Hillary,Pelosi,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5YYnfYmKs
Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9920
4Hillary – Click on the ABOUT link at the top of this post. Clearly explains our goals and the purpose of this blog.
Obama being sued! Now that’s the best news I heard all day.
Crusader Cross:
Here is Hillary’s speech from last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaUbFk4xp9A
330 DeepSouth on 08.27.08 at 9:40 am: If Obama wins and he fails like I am most positive he will, it won’t just be HIllary out in 2012, it will be the entire party out for 12 years or longer. Obama won’t succeed. He’s made too many promises which he has already not fulfilled to accomplish anything. The democrats can not afford another failed Democratic administration. We’ve seen that before with Jimmy Carter – - it was because of Jimmy that the doors of the White House were closed to the democrats for 12 long years…until President Clinton gave our party credibility again. To select a candidate as weak on everything as Obama, is political suicide for the party.
If Hillary had been chosen VP, even I believe I would have buckled. At least she would have been there to oversee things….so no, I won’t budge here now. I won’t be voting for Senator Clinton, now, it’s Obama, and Obama is going to bomb out so badly…we could get locked out for 24 years rather than 12. It’s not just about this election; it’s about the future of this party.
Off to do a few personal prowls, I’ll check in later . . .
Oh my God, I have said it over and over since last night….I hope John McCain has the good sense to see the potential gift of female support he was given last night and takes advantage of it by rallying us all.
I hope he realizes our contributions to this country and to life itself.
I hope he chooses Sarah Palin as his VP, because I think she would be great and because I believe she is someone who might unite us once again. I hope he has someone reading our blogs and that he can see benefit in placing women in various positions throughout an administration.
Focus on Healthcare! Don’t lose focus. It’s not Roe v Wade. IT’S Healthcare!!!!
Hillary was brilliant last night, her speech just reaffirms why she had 18 million supporters. Bill and Hillary must do what is necessary to preserve their legacy. We cannot afford to have Obama elected with the possibility that his supporters could vote him in for a second term. By voting for McCain, we send a strong message that we will not fall in line. The DNC will get the message loud and clear that they destroyed their own party. I think Bill gave a clear message yesterday when he said that candidate Y may have 50% of what we are looking for regarding issues, but candidate Y will have the experience and leadership. I don’t think it can get any clearer than that.
For what it’s worth:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/
BO’s numbers are lower than I’ve seen yet.
As Mccain takes lead in Rasmussen leaners tracking poll,
Obama shall appear to speak for a Greek temple
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/obama-speechifying-from-greek-templetragedy-or-farce/
387 Crusaders Cross
Good Morning.
I have some pretty strong emotions fighting each other for attention inside me today also.
I want to give one last hard push today, so that I come out feeling I have done all I can..and then I will move on with a decision I have already made.
If you speak with MARYLAND this AM, would you please ask her what she thinks of a mass “telegram” push.
She will have a better idea of whether it is even useful and access to MURPHY for approval. And don’t know if we have time.
I need another point of view before I send mine.
Hope you and Baby Puma are hanging tough! OMG, you have got to be so proud!
Unbroken Circles quote that really got me… oh, like an epiphany… this is what I have been thinking all along and couldn’t put into words:
“Susan B. Anthony and Alice Paul both made the point that it is up to the party to support women’s issues. It’s not up to the women to support the party’s issues.
If our votes don’t get counted anyway, what impact could we have on ANYTHING in the next four years? If we continue to insist on our voting rights being honored, then we’ll have our voices heard on any issue.”
#378: Thanks so much for your nice welcome, Trish — that’s a truly lovely way to encourage people to join up and try to defeat Obama.
If I’m not welcome here, I’ll leave you to your sarcasm and go off and do my own work.
4Hillary, Obama being sued, where did you hear that?
Good Morning Pumas.. Hey whatever happened to all the preaching Hillary did about EVERYONE’S VOICES SHOULD BE HEARD!!!!!!!! Send that out on a flyer… Aol poll shows Mccain 78% OBAMA 27% ROFLMAO!!! EAT THAT OBAMA!!!!
OOOOOOPS!
I hope I have not made one of those not “politically correct” statments which I don’t do well. Well I guess my daughter will wave her wand and my post will vanish……….
I am off to copy the speech on my computer tks Trish!
Lets see if I can do something right today!
Don’t know if this was posted earlier…article Nashville Voice re: Ann Price Mills
http://www.nashvilleistalking.com/node/63851
I really don’t know what is up with the site. I’m on my 6th time trying to post this. My interaction may be at a minimum today
On FOX next: Body language expert to talk about Hill’s speech last nite.
note to selp – proofread before hitting “submit” lol lol
should read – we need jbjd to clarify party affliation change.
actually, we shouldn’t depend/rely on jbjd so much, so, go and find out what your state does to you if you register independent, and then come back here and share, brag, and roar.
it was posted here. obama being sued.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9920
Went over to take the AOL straw vote and low and behold PUMAs are listed under the topics on left hand side
Article below:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/tag/PUMA/
To the Moderator: Please “un-register” me. I see that this is a group only for people who “have been here from the beginning.”
My reply to Hillary’s email this AM:
You were outstanding! Your family was outstanding!
You should be president!
However, it is with NO REGRET that I say, I CANNOT, I WILL NOT, EVER vote for NOBAMA!
I know McCain will do a FAR better job at preserving this country for you to fight another day. Therefore, if you are not on the ballot (without Nobama) in November, I will proudly take my stand for America and vote McCain.
I mentioned the injunction in my post but no one is paying attention. Ed Hale had someone on the show last night from Obamacrimes.com. Supposedly, he is getting a copy of Obama’s adoption papers today that proves he is a citizen of Indonesia. And will be getting an injunction to stop Obama from being nominated. I hope its for real but I don’t hold much hope it will work.
#408 Leosroar
I will not argue with you, but I will finish with, touche, most people say hi and get a feel for things before they condemn people here.
337 GoHillaryGo on 08.27.08 at 9:45 am WE have NO CHOICE.
“We must vote McCain to stop Obama.
Voting for Hillary will not even be counted. The states will not count votes unless the candidate requests they be counted. It is a total wasted vote. ”
That is not actually true in most states. All states have their own peculiarities and I will be posting them over the weekend. So keep the faith and we can deal with this after Friday……for now it is to get Hillary what is RIGHTFULLY hers and ours TODAY……..Get the full roll-call vote on the floor…….
Actually this idea of calling for a vote of unanimous vote for Obama is against the rules of every state and DNC Rule 17 A and in every states delegate selection plans…….but that hasn’t stopped them this year yet.
D. All delegate and alternate candidates must be identified as to presidential preference or
uncommitted status at all levels which determine presidential preference. (Rule 12.A.)
E. No delegate at any level of the delegate selection process shall be mandated by law or Party
rules to vote contrary to that person’s presidential choice as expressed at the time the delegate
is elected. (Rule 12.I.)
F. Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all
good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them. (Rule 12.J.)
J. The unit rule, or any rule or practice whereby all members of a Party unit or delegation may be
required to cast their votes in accordance with the will of a majority of the body, shall not be
used at any stage of the delegate selection process. (Rule 17.A.)
Leosroar, I tend to agree, they have their click and tend to ignore others posts.
Last word, Trish: where did you come up with “condemn”?
#419 fedup144
Phil Berg has a reputation for filing frivolous lawsuits; will also take time. May come to something, may not.
#417 Just stick around. If you agree with what we are here for no problem. People that have been here and worked real hard are a bit upset and I am one of them.
We are NOBAMA!!!! Hillary is our candidate.
#417 Leosroar
Ignore the hostility and speak up. That’s what I do. lol
#417 Leosroar
Ignore the hostility and speak up. That’s what I do. lol
Every newspaper I see has Hillary on the cover with some positive header. Where were they for her before last night?
417 Leosroar
think i only got here 22 days ago – so, stay awhile (like a few days) before making any decisions. we are a diverse group, however we somehow manage to mostly blog in harmony.
Obama should not spend time giving a unifying speech on Thursday because none of us will be listening. His time for unifying was months ago when he didn’t think he needed us. I can live with McCain being my second choice.
#423 Leosroar
Chill, I know there are lots of people here, we are diverse, but we all have one thing in common, HRC and then NOBAMA in 2008. Period
Found Anne Mills’ email address over at Hillary Clinton forum and sent her a note praising her for standing up for Hillary last night during an interview with CNN after Hillary’s incredible speech. Mills is a super delegate. (I am not posting her email here, too many trolls. If trolls want it they will have to work for it. Ha!) Anyway, please let Ms. Mills know that she spoke for us and encourage her to continue to stand by Hillary during the roll call. Also sent Bill an email at his foundation website, praising him for his support.
#386 MsBINMD
re western union
Effective January 27, 2006, Western Union will discontinue all Telegram and Commercial Messaging services. We regret any inconvenience this may cause you, and we thank you for your loyal patronage. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a customer service representative.”
http://www.livescience.com/technology/060131_western_union.html
Perhaps they used some other service?
#417 Leosroar
Please reconsider. This blog is not only for people who have been here from the beginning. You have a right to your opinion. This blog needs to focus and “move the ball forward” instead of all this interpersonal strife. Please stay.
#422 fedup144 on 08.27.08 at 10:34 am
Leosroar, I tend to agree, they have their click and tend to ignore others posts.
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I’ve been here almost from the beginning and I “get ignored” a lot. It’s not really that you’re ignored. Most of us are snatching time form busy lives to catch up and don’t have time to respond to every post. Just because you don’t get a response doesn’t mean your posts aren’t read and appreciated…….however, if you get mean about Hillary or too cozy about BO…..you might see some growls and claws.
whats going on in here
I got accused of being a BHO supporter yesterday!
Sometimes I feel invisible on this blog, but then I know it’s not about me. I am a PUMA and I support this group. I know Murphy et al are working their A**es off to get those 826 signatures. There IS power in prayer. EVERYONE send a continuous prayer for them and the outcome today. The energy WILL be out there and it WILL matter. I am so proud of our PUMAs in and Denver and all off us who won’t give up the fight. I am waiting and praying for their success in getting those signatures. GO MURPHY! GO PUMAs!
422 fedup144
not quite. it’s usually we are following a line of thought, we post a response, (having made note to self – need to respond to _–) go back up the posts, find yours, and open a dialogue with you.
so keep posting
FOX: Body language expert says: Notices change in facial expressions when she talks about BO–not as convincing as when she talks about other stuff. “No way” stuff: really doesn’t want McCain. Re: Michelle/First Lady-…sorry didn’t catch it(phone rang).
Leosroar-sniff around a bit more before leaving us. I “get ignored” most of the time but we are all UNITED with one mission-NO BO. Hillary is our candidate and we as a group do whatever we can to get that message out.
Welcome Leo Everyone has the same goal here so don’t leave. I think last night was hard on everyone and nerved are on edge. My opinion is we need everyone here to meet our goals
436 PA Guy
not everybody has had a happy meal yet, and some are grumpy this am
OK PLEASE – EVERYONE REFOCUS!
MOVING ON – STAY FOCUSED ON HOW TO ELECT HILLARY TODAY OR HOW TO STOP OBAMA MOVING FORWARD. PERIOD. THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT AGREE, NO PROBLEM YOU CAN MOVE ON.
BUT THOSE WHO AGREE, PLEASE LET’S GET BACK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND.
STAY FOCUSED GUYS – LET’S LET IT GO AND MOVE ON!
PLEASE
PA GUY….someone tried to tell me I’m not a Hillary Supporter Last night…
there is a lot of weirdness going on…
LOVE HILLARY…hated the message.
NEVER GIVE UP…KEEP FIGHTING….you better believe it…
Phil Berg has great credentials and a great reputation. Philip J. Berg, Esquire is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA.
There was a news breaking from the Republicans and Romney was speaking he said something about OBAMA was not fit to be president does anyone know about this?
No Springsteen/Bon Jovi at Invesco tomorrow night. Does he really have 75,000 people attending?
417 Leosroar on 08.27.08 at 10:32 am
To the Moderator: Please “un-register” me. I see that this is a group only for people who “have been here from the beginning.”
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I hope you can get past members who do not appear as welcoming. I re-read your post and see ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong/disrespectful with your comments.
As this movement grows I hope the attitude of all who do not recoginize screen names get off their high horse and accept some things are not just about their inner circle.
#157 Murphy
Hi Pumas. Orange is a Color of Alert! Warning sign!
To me, Hillary wants US to know Americans can not fall into a trap to elect Bush like again, we need to address issues of critical to the Country – we need to elect the one that is strongest in addressing issues.
Love you guys PUMA, you are the best.
Ive been a PUMA since day one. I have to my recollection never posted. I read everyday. WTG all of you wonderful PUMAS.
There are a few comments I can make.. Wherez the PUMA news? We havent heard anything from those on the ground. I miss Murphy.
Im not sure how I will vote except that it will not go to jobama.
I feel the PUMAS should register as a political party and that we should run on true democratic principals.
Healthcare, Economy, Ending the War, Caring for our Veterens, Education, International relations and truth in politics.
The DNC stole this election for reasons that are not known to us. They advocate a man (who I believe to be an honorable man) who has no experience. The optimal ticket for this country would have been CLINTON / KUCINICH. THis would have fixed all of our problems in the most timely manner and would have given Obama time to get his resume up to par.
The DNC needs to be punished.. and given a 4 year TIME OUT! We should all consider even rejecting down ballot Democrats. We should take more of a part in vetting new candidates.
OUR VOICES ARE MULTIPLYING. RECRUIT. SPREAD THE WORD.. PUT OUT YOUR FLIERS.
FIGHT ON PUMAS!
Leo
I have been on the verge of saying heck wth it about 3 times just today…but these are a good group of people working hard. Give them a chance and you will find yourself feeling like you are fighting for something important. Not all posts get responses. but they do get read. Stick around and at least watch for prowls or ways to fight for the things you believe in. Thats what I am doing.
there are many people working hard and are very focused….and there is nothing wrong with that.
They work so hard they may developed tunnel vision.
Puma should wecome newcomers who may provide new ingight ……and not diss them so quickly.
Oh PUHLEEEZE!!!! Oblahblah is going to come on stage Thursday by being raised upward from a platform underneath the stage like some kind of God!
Can this get any more ridiculous???
Wontbackdown:
Rasmussen Reports of 08/27/2008
Match-up without Leaners
McCain – 44%
Obama – 44%
(Even)
Match-up with Leaners
McCain – 47%
Obama – 46%
(McCain +1)
#408 Leosroar – you are welcome here and so is your positive message – thank you – now back to my personal prowls…
Piper–great letter…i’m still formulating mine
kpw and others–I read ALL the blogs usually late at night so even though I don’t respond I appreciate ALL comments (most of them at least
writers–I think that is SO smart how you found her email address and I will follow (she was fantastic)
Hi & good morning Pumas:
Was listening to Faux news this am – were talking about the big speech on Thursday by precious with his fake Greek Temple
Also, could not or would not confirm Bon Jovi & Springsteen playing concert before the coronation but did say all those people coming for the concert will be sitting there in the sun all day – plus they’re gonna make them make calls, register dead people, etc. – ya know the usual community organizer tactics –
Got the email from Hillary this morning too – haven’t replied yet – but as I have said since June 5 – noway, nohow, nobama, november…………..not sure about McCain but definitely no precious
Don’t read if you are easily upset…
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/26/chuck-todd-dont-believe-the-puma-hype/#comments
These people are extreme Hillary Haters. I can’t wait to read this site on Nov 5th when OB utters the word “concede”.
deep south–please tell me that you are kidding me….please…
Also keep in mind the blog is very busy and often when one posts (and has to do it two or three times because of the slow down glitch) when you get back to the thread it can be several posts later so a lot can be missed in that way.
433 henry
Thanks for the info! DRATS!
I definitely remember someone posting that they sent telegram yesterday, because that’s what gave me the idea.
Hopefully they will respond as to what they used.
#445 doctorate
Phil Berg has great credentials and a great reputation….
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Sorry, I’m just cynical about anything the MSM has known about for up to a year helping our case. I’m sure you know more about him than I do.
#445 doctorate
Phil Berg has great credentials and a great reputation….
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Sorry, I’m just cynical about anything the MSM has known about for up to a year helping our case. I’m sure you know more about him than I do.
#453 South
I can only hope that isn’t true.. I would even be embarrassed for him if he did that. I did hear there will be fireworks and something looking like the white house or something.
Jenni…..I wish I was kidding, but that is what they said on Fox. I am just shocked!
NJPUMA—we got that bounce
Can you imagine what the numbers would be if Hillary was our nominee???
This blog moves so fast that who could answer I am up cleaning the house in between post I have posted about 100 blogs don’t won’t and answer half the time I just want to know I am not alone in my pain and it helps to see we are all doing something good in here I would cry a river if we didn’t have this blog to come to I was crying the first time I ever posted and there were only about five of us here. But I was glad to find this blog my heart was broken that I am glad to have a place to come.
456 jenniforhillary
who are we emailing? can we all do it?
deepsouth–and people think i’m just kidding when I say I am ashamed to be a democrat…
I AM NOT KIDDING…have they lost their minds?
the answer is yes…..
PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE TODAY…GO HILLARY!!!
DeepSouth on 08.27.08 at 10:49 am Jenni…..I wish I was kidding, but that is what they said on Fox. I am just shocked!
Are they really going to put in on a platform?
I hope you all are watching FNC.. Its wild.
OK, PA Guy
I don’t think you are an Obama supporter. I think you are very frustrated and that may come across as negative. We are all trying to stay positive. Positive energy begets positive energy and we desperately need to stay positive.
LEOSROAR
Don’t unregister. I know there is a group that talks with each other and others get left out. I have almost no response to what I write. But I am here for HILLARY and for what I believe is right. I know everyone else is here sor the same reason. So I stay and I read and I comment maybe once a week, if that. I’m not part of the inner circle,
Warning viewing of this picture may cause extreme nausea
the ones temple at Invesco
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/edzo4/dncinvesco.jpg
well, I didn’t get a prowl but I am emailing or faxing :
hillary
bill
howard and donna (at their hotel)
Cnn
MSNBC
ABC
CBS
NBC
FOX
and any paper that has a pro-BO article in it today
with the BERG lawsuit info. the lack of bounce (i.e. the BO numbers) and the information about delegate’s votes being stolen….
then I’m going to work because if I think about this any more I will get sad and I have to work ALL DAY TODAy darn it
Beca….that sounds so typically like “I wanna be a rock star” Obamaish. Though I’m shocked I guess I shouldn’t be. Wonder if they will be playing the theme to 2001 Space Odyssey (sp?) while his holiness is being risen!!!
Last night Murphy said there was a message. Now we have the message….keep running. So I am ready. Let me know if any prowls…I am doing my own but will gladly do more.
#469 I too am ashamed!!!!
Miracles do happen!!!
#453 DeepSouth
Oh PUHLEEEZE!!!! Oblahblah is going to come on stage Thursday by being raised upward from a platform underneath the stage like some kind of God!
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I’m confused. Why do they need a platform? I thought the Messiah could walk on water….
Alright, tensions are high, but stay cool!!!
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS, there are many of us regulars who lurks as well but cannot answer all the questions being ask, but we read them all.
Welcome back bloggers from yesterday. It was one hell of an emotional ride for most. So regroup and focus on HRC.
It is true they have shown it on fox all morning makes me think they want him to lose maybe they used him too it will raise up and there are four big collums .and we our paying for all the security for this what a joke
I’ve been reading all of the posts about MO. My take is that the looks we were seeing are inner knowing that what had taken place over the past months against this wonderful woman on the stage, was wrong, Michelle knows it, she knows we know it, she knows that no matter how they try to spin it, we’re NOT falling in line and the wonderful woman on the stage is the reason why we’re not. Many people last night were shaken into reality by her speech and the reception she got. Who can predict what happens now, but I know this, no matter how much energy the Obama team puts into their campaign over the next few weeks, they cannot create the kind of energy Hillary Rodham Clinton can. Why? It’s the difference between right and wrong. It’s the difference between truth and lies. It’s the difference between a natural leader inspired by goodness, and fraud.
That’s all I’ve got to say today.
here’s the picture
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/edzo4/dncinvesco.jpg
Does anyone have the email of Ann Price Smith, Delegate, Kent Washington???
I so hope the greek temple and concert backfire on the stupid idiot – I can’t believe the amount of money being spent on this empty suit –
After the fake roll call today – there will be a lot more Hillary supporters that will be saying sayonara to the Democratic Party – I hope there will be lawsuits filed against the Democratic Party by the States -
Plus, Phil Berg is a flake but maybe his suit will grow legs, the Ayers papers from University of Illinois have been scrubbed (why do you think they were all of a sudden unavailable?), and his birth – I still think he was born in Kenya but…………………..
407 bmw60~~~ ABsolutely….I totally agree with you.
474 jenniforhillary
way to go!!!!!!!! go plan !!!!!
and have a good day at work even though we know you’ll be itching to be here and watching tv instead.
MsBin
http://www.itelegram.com/telegram/send.asp?recCountry=US&telegram=USA
I didnt send one but that is how to send one.
On FOX after the commercial, the POWER of Hillary’s Pantssuit
Next on FOX: “The Power of the Pantsuit.” I’ll bet MO is really happy about this!
#474 jenniforhillary
Awsome! I too will be emailing all newsmedia regarding the law suit specifically.
That’s what we need – ACTION!
I just keep seeing Hillary fighting for peoples votes to count. That she believes EVERYONE has the right to be heard. She should not have a problem with EVERY delegate being heard and she shouldn’t cut it off short. PLUS everyone needs to know what the OBAMA campaign did to steal the nomination (which he has not won yet) THERE is proof and it should be shown.
# 477 jody in florida
I’m confused. Why do they need a platform? I thought the Messiah could walk on water….
ROFLMAO
Hi all. Catching up on posts. Has anyone heard if they collected the necessary number of signatures yet? Any word on the latest plan re: the “roll call” vote?
Meanwhile, the Gallop Poll still shows McCain ahead by 2 points! Amazing. This even after the vp announcement and well into the convention. The polls continue to note that Clinton has an 80% approval rating. Polls now says it’s waiting to see a bump from Michelle’s speach. Can’t imagine she’ll ever give BO a bump in the up direction. That woman just looks incredibly angry, as if there’s rage that’s always just underneath the surface bubbling through. Quite unappealing and undignified for an aspiring first lady.
re: NYC Girl’s Post…
Okay, you did it, make me cry again. Hillary Rodham Clinton gave a beautiful speech last night (I am blocking the BS part) that had me crying and SCREAMING because she is so fricking good and smart and wonderful and kind.
We will all have to make our choice regarding who to vote for put I will say it again and again unless MURPHY tells me to shut up but I wlll vote McCAIN because we MUST BEAT BO. If not, Hillary will never be president and this country will lose herself.
My deepest prayer is that the delegates RISE and vote for HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON….or that BO doessomething that gets him unnominated or that something else happens that puts her in the white house.
BUT I WILL be voting for the candidate who will has the best chance of beating the MONSTER of the DNC so that Hillary can come back in 2012 and be my president.
I LOVE PUMAS and I am going to work.
Hello everyone,
Just checking in before I leave for work. Wished I could have stayed on later last night celebrating HC’s speech, but the paid bloggers were out in full force. They were on HC support sites in droves yesterday. Here are some of their general themes:
1.) We are all racists and we are mean.
2.) We are being played for fools by McCain. We should stay home instead of voting for McCain because he is eeevil. I think they’ve caught on to the fact that we will never support BO, so their new strategy is to keep us from voting at all.
3.) And of course, that we are dumb.
If you visit other blogs you’ll see comments playing on the above themes. Paid bloggers also tend to start arguments with people and leave in a huff-so as to prove how mean we are.
I thought there were PUMA Pac blog rules posted somewhere. Where are they? One of them was that we should not tell people how to vote.
Once again, Hillary hit it out of the park last night. I’m still on a high from the speech. I was just glad she proved she was the best. That performance made the BO camp look rather bad. That’s probably why the paid bloggers were out- damage control.
Have a great day,
Lara08
FYI
I been posting at huffpost……………
They are still focused on placing blame on Hillary and Pumas if BHO lost.
Obamabots……….They just don’t get it!
FOX: Orange pantsuit not a random choice. MO blended right in. I’ll bet MO is REALLLLLLLY happy now!!! LMAO
Re: #494
I obviously meant, paid BO bloggers.
Try to have a good day, jenni~~~you are in my thoughts and heart.
YES YES YES LISTEN TO FOX NEWS NOOOOOOW
PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT
This is Mama
Welcome to all new members
We are so happy to see you here and know that we will be stronger as new members join.
Blessings on all old members. You are our foundation
and make things happen.
We are all PUMAs and need to be kind to each other.
Now is the time to stay focused on our goals. We have every hope for a successful outcome today but regardless of the outcome we have succeeded. We are certainly not being ignored anymore.
Be extraordinarily kind to each other. Any complaints or criticisms should be sent in email to me – not posted.
MamaPumaMass@aol.com
Love
Mama
The orange pantsuit was a great tribute to PUMAS.. if only she had worn a leopard scarf!!
They were showing overhead shots of the stage at Invesco Field…looks obscene…Greek columns…and quite frankly, I couldn’t be happier, this is the type of display that just doesn’t play well with the American people…it is presumptuous to say the least…
Does anyone know how we affiliate as a recognized party?? That may be in our future.
They showed a couple of clinton supporters last night one was African American another was a male and they ARE NOT voting for OBAMA the lady said it is Hillarys night she would make a great president
Blue Blue Gal
How are you! I am having trouble posting today. What is Murphy’s cell number, and what is she looking for representation for, the group, personal? I know Gloria is liscensed in California.
Actually, I think the more grand Obama gets the worse he looks. So I say to Obama, keep it up. One thing most people can’t resist is bringing a big ego down off their high horse. People are getting sick of Obama. Also, I believe the polls are shifting because some voters were holding out in hopes Hillary would be VP. Now that shes not, those few hold outs will now turn on Obama.
I hope someone sets these jerks straight…I admire evreything PUMAS have done. These are ObamaBots to be sure, but I hope someone (who isn’t easily upset) responds with facts to this site.
How can there possibly be any “unity” with so many Obama supporters still bashing Hillary?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/26/chuck-todd-dont-believe-the-puma-hype
“xargaw Says: I agree with Todd. If the PUMA’s were so loyal to Hillary how come she can’t seem to retire much of her debt. There is small mouthy group of sore loosers that care nothing about what Hillary stood for with regard to policies. If they did, they would be solidly behind Obama. Apparently, these big mouth sore loosers only have big mouths, but are unwilling to open their wallets for even a few dollars to someone they claim to care so much about. This is more media story than anything else.”
“Cufford Says: Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about “what is PUMA”?
If you don’t pay attention for a few days, you miss all the latest acronyms being bandied about, and where they come from.
Anyway…I was watching Chuck Todd on MSNBC last night reciting his poling statistics about Hillary supporters who would refuse to support Obama, and it struck me…such people are fucking STUPID.
They would vote for McCain, or at the least wish that Obama would loose, just out of selfish, egotistic, narcissistic stupidity – but not based upon idiology or what they think is best for the country, or even their own families. NO! Hillary was robbed! And that’s all that matters. To hell with future generations. It’s payback time!
And we wonder why our political state of things has gotten to this point. With large voting blocks of ignorant, selfish people, like these so-called PUMAs, it’s really no wonder at all.”
492 Anna7000
“Quite unappealing and undignified for an aspiring first lady.”
Indeed!
WHEW Bill won’t be there tomorrow night he said nobody tells bill clinton what to say
all:
re:the lawsuit that was filed-
fyi:
if we are mailing/emailing on our own, fine.
i don’t believe we have an ok from murphy to do this as a puma.
imho.
4Hillary: you own your vote to use it as you think is right. Truly I can not believe that Hillary nor Bill think that Senator O is the person who will lead this nation out of it’s despair. You can say anything it does not mean that you are true to the words; as Hillary always said when they demonized her, “they are just words”. My thoughts are that with these two choices you have to look at the lesser of the two evils, who has more intergrity and character, who brings more to the table; from that assessment I will go with Senator M.
Great Suggestion MamaPuma!
I’m so sick of this whole blame thing. It’s part of a horrible pattern that women have endured around the world all through time. When women get raped, they get blamed for what they were wearing, or where they were at the time, etc. When women get beaten in their homes, they get blamed for inviting the beating, for provoking the person in some way. Women group up with this burden that they are somehow responsible for everything that goes wrong. Have you ever noticed this scenario?:
Bunch of folks in a crowded elevator. Someone accidentally steps on the toes of a women. The woman whose toes got stepped on sweetly and politely says, “Oh, I’m sorry.” I want to scream. Worse, I want to kick myself when I find that woman who’s apologizing for having her own toes stepped on is me!
It’s deep and engrained. Blame is spewed out daily and we accept it blindly. I’ve had it with people blaming Hillary of this movement. They can blame all they want. I’m going to take a new approach regarding this pattern of blame: It’s not my problem, it’s theirs.
505 hillary2008
see you r post – will now go read it, i’ve been looking for you , you’re here!!!!!
Bill Clinton will NOT be a Obama’s speech tomorrow night! God Bless Bill
WOOO HOOO Bill Clinton will not be there tomorrow night because there is still bad blood between OBAMA and Clinton. GAWD!! I love how OBAMA campaign can predict the future B will NEVER COME AROUND!!
#453 DeepSouth on 08.27.08 at 10:45 am
Please tell me this is a JOKE. Well, he is a JOKE so it may be appropriate!
If the BOTs are blaming Hillary if BO loses, that means they are finally admitting he may lose. They’re scared! They are afraid of a bunch of bitter ample-@$$ed old women (their words.) Cool!
I will wait to see if the Florida Delegation grows a back bone today at the roll call vote, and get behind Hillary.
Texs4hillary.. is this accurate?
>WHEW Bill won’t be there tomorrow night he said nobody tells bill clinton what to say>
Can you site the source?
Go Anna7000
Beautifully said…been there so many times in my 60 years!
WOOO HOOO GO MCCAIN AND YOUR NEW AD!!!
Thanks MamaPuma. I think that plan will go a long way to help keep things together on the blog!
At the Denver Group site:
“The Democratic National Convention is shaping up to be the most dishonest and corrupt in recent political history, without regard for the fact that every Democratic rule and democratic principle has been violated in the name of pushing a candidate who the majority of the primary and caucus goers voted against in order to fullfill some agenda.
Until it unfolds, we won’t know the exact form of what we now know [; it] will definitely amount to a rigged, dishonest roll call vote. Another thing we do know is that it is going to rob 18 million voters of their franchise. And when it has come to this entire nominating process the Bush Administration will have shown more respect for the voting rights of Iraqis than the DNC has shown for the voting rights of registered Democrats and delegates to the Democratic Convention. And that cannot be ignored.”
TEXS4HILLARY
Bill won’t be there. Did I miss something. Can’t watch TV right now. Grandson is watching his programs.
#520 ITS on FOX
417 Leosroar
Welcome!
Please run along with us, we’re all on the same team, we love Hillary and want her only as President asap.
I don’t know about others but as for me, with my very busy schedule, I do what I can with this blog but I’m thankful that it’s here and Pumas are here.
I don’t worry about other Pumas responding to my posts, I know they’re busy too.
We all do what we can.
#518 jody in florida
don’t forget uneducated, shriveled up, ignorant…..
I say we are protected by the white light and can see the truth!
Since I actually have to work for a living I think I will go to work now. Will be back later for updates about the roll call vote. And PUMAS, stay united, our fight has just begun…NO OBAMA!
Kpw26 Fox is reporting alot of positivity for Hillary I am sure they will tell it all again later. I love it!! B DOES NOT LIKE OBAMA Maybe he will protest with the PUMAS
RyanMan Please don’t post anymore of those nasty comments from other sites. I try and stay postive and dont even read them. I hate to think I have to read them here. Please!
If they cut the roll call short today then the DNC will have succeeded in disenfranchising voters from across this country. For for a party who has stumbled along for the last 18 months with their woolly headed thinking, it will be a huge gaffe…
#464
“something looking like the white house or something.”
Maybe it will be as successful as his “something looking like the presidential seal”
Can’t believe he still thinks PLAYING president will make it real!
NO NO NO WE WON’T…. COME ON PUMAS…. NO NO NO WE WON’T!!!
#507 Ryan -No time to answer Obamabots. They can believe whatever they want. It doesn’t change the fact that we own our votes & BO will probably lose. We will continue to work towards our goals. Country before Party.
btw, my theory about the word “bitter”: the media’s substitute for the other “bit–” word that they might get criticized for using (like they really care.)
Yeah, as Hillary has communicated to us, “The Bit– Is Back!”
Texs4hillary.. is this accurate?
>WHEW Bill won’t be there tomorrow night he said nobody tells bill clinton what to say>
Yes, please cite the source. Go Bill!!!
PATIENTS AND UNDERSTANDING, PLEASE!
We are running on overload right now. Contributions may not all be acknowleged as they should be, but are appreciated and frequently acted apon more than you may know.
KEEP THE INFORMATION FLOWING!
We are the ones no one expected.
COME ON AND SHOUT… REACH YOUR HANDS OUT… SHOUT… COME ON PUMA’S AND SHOUT HILLARY’S NAME WITH ME!!!! SHOUT… HOLD YOUR HEADS UP… SHOUT!!!! WOOO HOOO
I think we should e-mail Elisabeth on the view. She is aware of us and is silenced by the others. I know Bill Geddes, the producer. He is tough, but is also a republican and loves EH. I think she would mention us if we e-maild her.
505 hillary2008
i’m hooking them up because yesterday morning gloria was denied the right to speak to her Ca delegates. (another example of “keeping everyone in line”. ) so, in response, gloria put the neck scarf she was wearing across her mouth to express that denial. i think this falls under our umbrella – the dnc is really pushing their power around.
so if you can get in touch with gloria and reiterate this, she will already have murphy’s cell #.
if you can get us a # for gloria, that would be excellent. that way we know all parties have each others info. thanks.
#419 fedup144
I listened to Ed the last two nights.
If what he and Phil Berg were saying is true would be shattering news.
If you don’t get immediate response to your posts, don’t give up. Re-post if necessary.
So many people are posting now. Do not expect that someone will reply to your every post but never forget that it will be read.
Our blog isn’t set-up so that we can reply to individual posts….would be such a major help!
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In these last few hours possible, try to contact anyone you can think of – union leaders, newspapers, anyone – to make clear if there is no bona fide floor vote, this will be the last time the Democratic Party will be guaranteed a slot on state ballots. Because we will change state laws and stop giving preferential treatment to the candidate selected by demagogues in the Democratic Party and not the voters, over candidates from any other party, like the Green Party or the Libertarians.
Check out this ad from the Denver Group. Anyone with a fax machine (I don’t have one) print this out and send it to anyone you can think of!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lJK9qaX7XKE/SLVKXG_MvFI/AAAAAAAABP4/cXYu5NpYX8Y/s1600-h/Last+straw+-+The+Hill-+Final-+proofed.jpg
540 hillary2008
no no no no no
not elizabeth!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only time I will not watch the con-vention is when BHO gives his speech……..
I don’t have the stomach!
Besides, I like my TV and I don’t want to throw anything at it….lol
#537 YES! YES! ITS TRUE!! I am watching Fox News.
What the hell is going on now!! Mom was watching FOX and they are now saying that they are going to stop the roll call at IL!! Thus, not allowing at least half of the states their right to have their votes count!! This is total BS!!! Is there anything else that we can do on our part to try to stop this from happening??
Melissa
Hi Leo and welcome.
Don’t feel ignored. I have been here since the 1st night PUMA went on-line. Many of us are juggling multiple activities and making time for PUMA prowls so we don’t spend much time for blogging. I just check in periodically to read the posts and see what’s happening.
At this point in time I feel that the best contribution I can make is through e-mails, letters, and posters. We each have our niche and most assuredly there is one for you.
Again, welcome!
#274 leosroar
I think I’ve heard about Kunst and “Citizens for McCain”. I think he may have been interviewed on Hannity.
Oh, and don’t leave the blog, it’s virtually impossible to respond to everyone and sometimes it makes us feel invisible. But people read all the comments at night when they get home from work, and your voice matters.
I like to think of this as a bulletin board. Alot of people look at it but you don’t necessarily get a response.
I think alot of people don’t realize they can press ctrl key with f5 function key to refresh the screen so they can follow the posts and see what’s happening.
Don’t give up on PUMAs, I’m a leo too and a PUMA.
No way, No how, Nobama!
VA PUMA #482
You can find Ms. Price Mills’ email address listed over at Hillary Clinton forum. I did a previous post , but you may not have seen it. I did not want to post her actual email address on our website because I was afraid she would be inundated by trolls. (I don’t think trolls will actually take the time to go to the other website to dig it out.)
By the way, if you are in VA, I was born there, a Navy brat from Portsmouth, VA.
If you still cannot find Ms. Price Mills’ email address at Hillary Clinton forum.com, do another post, and I will (reluctantly) post it for you on here.
Rock on, PUMAs! For a “few dozen disgruntled middle-aged women” (thank you, Chris Matthews), we are really making an impact, aren’t we?!
#547 MissyD77
All the media was saying yesterday that Hillary was going to release her delegates. She didn’t. Don’t believe it until/unless you see it.
Sadly, I missed Hillary’s speech last night -partly because of timing, partly because I couldn’t bear to hear her endorse BO. Now I know I missed something extraordinary from listening to your critiques.
Do you think the speech will be posted anywhere where I can watch it?
Also, my husband told me that Stephanie Tubbs Jones son was sitting with Bill and that the Dem Chairman of Arkansas son or daughter was on his other side. What a tear jerker that must have been!
Miss all you Pumas in Denver…Stay safe, carry our banner and continue making us so proud. YOu are doing an amazing job…simply beyond description. Lorelai
ps. This is my twin sister Lorelai/not me, Anna! lol
She Speaks for me –
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdhhW-zSeU
493 jenniforhillary
I’ve been saying this along too, the only way to negate an Obama vote is by voting McCain.
For the first time in my adult life I will vote republican not because I want to but because I’m being forced to.
If Hillary had lost fair and square I wouldn’t feel this way.
TEXS4HILLARY
MY computer just told me to slow down
Wanted to than you for the update. I’ll bet Bill is silently cheering us all on. Hillary’s delegates should all whip out their scarves )gags) and put them on if they cut the role call short. Wouldn’t that be something for the media to see.
453 DeepSouth
They said something about roman pilars ??
I think I heard that… I went to psp and put a Roman head dress( don’t know what they are called) on BO…lol sent it to carrie
#507 ryanman
Chuck Todd doesn’t even tell the truth. He is the one said there were only about 400 PUMA’s based on e-mails he has rec eived. He knows that every e-mail represents hundreds, thousands, of voters. Not everyone is politically active, but they read, and they vote.
SNBC is running scared. We are swithing to FOX evefryday, their ratings are tanking. Most of us used to be fans until we saw the blatant sexism and selection of O, at the risk of not informing voters about O.
MAYBE MCCAIN will create a quick ad and air it NOW about NOT LETTING THE PEOPLES VOTES BE HEARD!!!! He is doing a hell of a job poping out Ads right now stomping OBAMA!!!
#552 Lorelai
I’m sure it will be …it was great..
486 Caracal Carrie
Thanks for the info!
any emails that go out that are not a murphy prowl should not be in puma name.
Awesome. Good for you Bill clinton.
Now for the rest of us to stand up to the evil!!!
Like Anna was saying, I’m not sorry you stepped on our toes, Obama, but you are going to be.
We will renew our fervor and come after you and we WILL see your nomination and candidacy ANNULED.
You and your thugs will not get away with the bribery, the intimidation of innocent citizens, the coercion or your TREASON! Yes, I’m calling a spade a spade and I accuse you of treason and subversion and a terrorist attack on the people of the United States.
Tell the TRUTH, Obama. Do the RIGHT thing you are so fond of talking about.
Hillary, yes I was in it for you, but not for you alone. I am as FOR all the things you spoke of. But I am not for getting them underhandedly or by the means Obama has employed. To do so makes us no better than communists, or fascists, hitlers or Stalins. And we cannot take any chance of Obama becoming one of them. I’m sure there is enough dirt, enough chicanery that if we unite our voices we can make ourselves heard around the world and bring this despot DOWN!!!!
Hillary IS the rightful candidate for the Democratic Party, period.
If this stands as it is, it will be OUR legacy to the children and future generations.
Kpw.. YOU betcha… I wish I was in Denver.. THE government NEEDS to do WHAT WE THE PEOPLE SAY!!! LETS GO TO DENVER AND FIRE THEM ALL!!!!
One last post, then nap time.
I love reading these comments. And FYI I am a Republican, and a friend of Bower. I don’t want to come on here and mis-lead people loike the (bo) people do.
We all Know that the DNC COMPLETELY BLEW IT! Hillary had this totally. But now that McCain does I suggest you all take a look at the VP spot! and cabinet members for McCain and Voice your thoughts to McCains office or blogs. If we are going to have someone for 4 years, wouldn’t it be wiser to elect someone as VP that you like…? I mean I liked Huckabee.. But then I seen Sarah Palin, AND WOW! SO please look up Sarah Palin, go here http://www.smellslikebo.com/blog/blog1.php?p=52&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 or do a search. But my point is McCains going to win, that is obvious now. So why not start looking for other officals you all want in office, for the nation! and for what you believe in, Instead of not voting plan for the future. I HIGHLY suspect Sarah Palin will possibly run against Hillary in 2012. And personally I think that would be really cool! 2 Ladies running for the President. And I hope McCain don’t pick ( even though they are Qualified) a white typical male VP. (boring). I mean Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, etc.. are all qualified, but I want to see a Fresh New SPark! Sarah Palin as VP! And if and When Sarah Palin runs against Hillary, will it be a cat fight? NOPE! LOL LOL I doubt it, It would probably be one of the best elections to remember. Sorry a bit tired I hope you got the point, GO VOTE! no matter who! cast your voice! But do research. and the other point is since McCain will win, do you want to voice to him your VP choice, whoever that may be. And don’t turn away from Palin just because she will most likely meet Hillary in 2012 or 2016. I mean I am a staunch Republican and I was pushing for Hillary, as I knew no matter who would have won Hillary or McCain, I would be able to sleep and not worry of the near future possible Natioanl security events about to happen. As in Israel, Do any of you honestly think that Israel will NOT launch an attack against Iran? Trust me they will Never allow Iran to go nuclear. And even if the USA stays out of it, IRAN promised to attack US interest (bases) over-seas if Israel attacks them. So we will be invovled one way or another and I KNOW! Hillary would have Kicked butt! and McCain knows how to handle it, But (bo) NOPE! he can;t even debate McCain in town-hall style debates, I could name hundreds of reasons, but you all know (bo) has No Clue!… OK logging off, Please go vote and think! who do you want in office the next 4 years! as VP! with McCain and cabinet members. I know Leiberman will get a cabinet spot. Will McCain give Hillary a Cabinet spot? I just thought of that? hmmm. I bet none of you even thought of that…
Bill Clinton made a great statement before Hillary went on stage last night, — “Suppose for example you’re a voter and you have candidate X and you have candidate Y,” Clinton said. “Candidate X agrees with you on everything but you don’t think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver.”
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/27/clinton-candidate-x/
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To me it was clear he was talking about (bo) and McCain. Now tonight I think is the last chance, (I may be wrong) for Hillary to get in, ( Irather have Hillary in then (bo). I don’t agree with Hillary on alot of things like Bill said above, BUT! I know she is a Strong US Citizen that would defend our nation and be able to take that 2am call of national security, plus she has alot of other great values. with that said… I see a few of you have stated you will not be voting or voting for (hinting) for a third party or write ins… etc… I see NO value in doing this, to do that aids the party you are not voting for… I can prove in numbers but to save space I won’t right now, But it is your vote, vote for whoever you like! But go VOTE! It is the PEOPLE that elect officials, don’t let anyone or any reason stop you from casting your voice (vote). And with that said!
Mccain is up by 1.
Where’s this so called bump. This man is tanking.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history
Thanks prowland…
THINK ABOUT IT…
(Hillary’s speech at Emily’s List luncheon yesterday)
“I know a little bit about how the White House works,” Clinton said. “And, you know, if the president isn’t exactly on our side — call the first lady, and with Michelle Obama, we are going to have somebody who answers that phone.”
(…and we could of had the most successful, world-wide respected, 2 term democratic president on the other end)
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She also said:
Clinton also expressed how personal politics is to her, and when you run for office, you never know what you are going to get.
“For those who supported the women who have run — the women who are holding office — please remember that it’s not just about politics — it’s really personal. Because when you start running, you have no idea where the path will lead.”
Clinton also had words of thanks for the group of women at the event.
“Your work is putting more cracks into that glass ceiling, and thanks to you, one day, it will completely shatter.”
hillary2008
are you able to contact gloria, as you said you know her?
Blue Blue Gal
Not Eilizabeth, you don’t think she would mention us. She is a fan of Hillary’s and would love to promote McCain. Fill me in if their is something I don’t know. I mean, she used to make me crazy too…
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THEY GATHERED THE NECESSARY NUMBER OF SIGNATURES PER MURPHY’S THREAD YESTERDAY?
Here is a copy of the post I left on the Chuck Todd link in post 507Stand proud and Stay strong… I have to admit this is the first election that I have followed closely….Initially I was torn between Hillary and Obama…. I knew Hillary was capable, but I wanted to see who this Obama character was and the more I heard and the more I saw I was completely baffled why he was in the race….. It’s ironic the O.J. hotel robbery hit the air real close to the time of Reverend Wright’s rant and rave….I started hearing Obama this, Obama that and I was still looking for why he was being put on such a high podium, and then you’d see O.J. with his smug grin, Obama had that same smug grin.My thought OH my GOD people are voting for Obama because he’s black I asked people what has Obama done I’ve never even heard of him….. To this day when you ask his supporters what has he done to merit being president….. They say go to his web site and read his ideas…I don’t care about his ideas I want to know about his accomplishments….Then I want to hear just how that accomplishment materialized….. It’s pretty clear that the majority of Americans want a “CHANGE” and we all “HOPE” IF it will work in our best interest…. If one is going to promise this country “CHANGE” and “HOPE” claim to unite the country, I want to know just how you plan to pull that off….. To this day I still haven’t heard Obama’s plan….. However,
I have read his wife’s thesis, I saw her and heard her play the blame game for her lack of patriotism.
I heard and watched Obama stand on national television make a racist statement in making excuses for his radical spiritual leader and mentor.
( I have worked over 10 years with adolescent, teaching them to live a Discrimination Free Zone life)
That was it for me I will work as hard as I can to boycott Obama… There is no way he can win because the youngsters will hear a loud clear message that they can insult an discriminate a population whom is different and still be come president……
IF you Google the words ‘thinking errors” these are thought patterns of thoughts our clients were taught to recognize in their own thought process, so they could recognize them and own their actions based on that style of thinking……
As a Sociology Major You learn how one’s physical mental and emotional environment molds one to becoming who they become…..
That’s the gist of why Obama should not win this race…..
Hillary in Denver 2008…..NO Obama……OR McCain all the way…..
PUMA:
535 normapapuma
NObama, if nominated, will lose the election.
I’m not a psychic but I can feel it all around me.
John McCain, do the next right thing!!! Unite the women!!~!!
561 Blue Blue Gal
That wasn’t quite what was said- what was said was that you shouldn’t use the term “PUMA PAC” unless they are official prowls.
Anyone has the right to say that they are a member of PUMA on anything that they send out.
I thought Hillary was a firm believer in letting the votes count.. NOW she wants to cut it short..WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD AND WE WILL BE HEARD.. PUMAS we gotta get the former delegates back behind Clinton and they need to join the March gagged.. with a sign no roll call no voice.. something like that
Does anyone have any reliable (whatever that means anymore!?*@) info re: how the roll call vote is going down today and what time it is supposed to happen??? This is what it comes down to, today at least.
MSBIND
I talked with Maryland Puma and she said that if you guys want to send telegrams to do so. At this point Maryland Puma is trying to clean up HQ and tie up loose ends because she is leaving in the am to come home. I am sure that they are very busy doing last minute things but I will monitor site every now and then and if there is something really heavy going on and you need someone to respond I will try to get up with someone.
EVERYONE JUST REMEMBER, no matter what happens we did the best that we could. All we can do is reorganize and keep trucking on to the election date.
Maryland Puma asked me to tell all of you that they are not professionals who do this for a living. They are just like most of the people on this board everyday people who work and have families. This has been a learning experience and if we are to go on from this point we learn from the past and only become stronger. The PUMAS are not done and we need every member to hang strong with us. Please be kind to each other and somewhat tolerate of others opinions. Lets stay together and support one another. It has been a very emotional and trying time for all.
I AM SO PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS and plan to continue the work that the Pumas have started to the very end.
A very proud mother who sends her love to all!!
I heard the Talking Heads on the tube yesterday discussing their “News Cycle” during the last few elections. In 2000 it was a couple of days, in 2004 it was around a day and now it is just a couple of hours.
GO PUMA GO!
Murphy – give ‘em what for! We know it is just a few hours until the ballot should be called. Go! Go!
569 hillary2008
elizabeth is a staunch republican
#562 LivingGrace on 08.27.08 at 11:24 am
Yeah, what LivingGrace said!
OMG!! FOX NEWS JUST SAID HILLARY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE NOMINEE!!! IMAGINE THAT!!!
570 Anna7000~~~ I don’t know. I don’t remember the thread.
#457 OMG-He will make me sick already! Please keep an open mind about McCain. BO is actually more like Bush! I try to post everywhere and spread positive info about McCain because BO must be defeated if he’s actually allowed to run.
574 lisa
my point is that we should not be saying we are speaking for puma. that is different from saying you are a puma.
I have a question. BO supporters and others, say they don’t understand why we would vote for McCain because Hillary and Obama stand on the issues are closer. How so? Did anyone watch the debates from the beginning? Obama has a different stand everyday. And Obama has shifted to the right on several issues. SO he is looking more like McCain than Hillary. Besides that, how in the world can anyone really know where Obama stands from one day to the next when he doesn’t even know where he stands. Now, he has stolen Hillarys platform, because his own was so weak. ANother point I want to make. I went back and watched these debates over on youtube. SOmething struck me that I never realized until now. All the candidates, seemed to go after Obama more than any of the others. I thought, omg, they all knew from the beginning Obama was the chosen one, and he is the one they had to beat.
Hillary is still my candidate. For one moment after her speech I wavered but in the light of her brillance and obama’s bumbling, and my realization that she is head and shoulders above Obama and Biden, I cannot vote nor support a ticket that does not have HRC on it. Go Hillary. Women who are better than the men they ran against, still discriminated against and denied leadership they qualify for. How old is that story?
The msm is waiting to see the polls after his speech. They are expecting him to go up.
Has anyone else considered that the color orange that Hillary wore , could be the sign of her being a prisoner?
Guantanamo Bay prisoners wore orand and so do many prisoners that you see on the roadside picking up trash.
Hillary was showing us that she is the prisoner of the DNC and told us not to give up, keep going, race toward freedom. We can’t give up- because she has not.
I believe in my heart that she will become – Madam President in January 2009.
God Bless Hillary Clinton and her wonderful famil, and God Bless OUR United States of America.
Blue Blue Gal
I know it is hard to believe, haha, but EH is a feminist.
Also, I have a friend who was rep’d by Gloria for over twenty years. That is how I met her. It was avery publiuca case. I then needed an attorney for a case in NY state. GA could not practice here. She was not licensed.
#577
Please thank MarylandPuma and Murphy, as well as the rest of the PUMAs. We aren’t professionals either, so we understand.
Best,
Lara08
494 LARA08
RE: your comment, “I thought there were PUMA Pac blog rules posted somewhere. Where are they? One of them was that we should not tell people how to vote. ”
I am positive that is at the least AN UNSPOKEN RULE as it should be. Everyone has to vote their own conscience in November. It’s a private thing. We can all SHARE our opinion of what we want to do, but that’s a BIG part of what we are doing here.. making sure EVERYONE has the right to have EACH INDIVIDUAL VOTE COUNTED!!!
STAY FOCUSED PUMAS. STAY STRONG.
NOBAMA, NO WAY, NO HOW, WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.
Message #500 from Mama………For those of you who may have missed this and feel that you have major issues which may need to be addressed I have posted this again………Thanks!
PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT
This is Mama
Welcome to all new members
We are so happy to see you here and know that we will be stronger as new members join.
Blessings on all old members. You are our foundation
and make things happen.
We are all PUMAs and need to be kind to each other.
Now is the time to stay focused on our goals. We have every hope for a successful outcome today but regardless of the outcome we have succeeded. We are certainly not being ignored anymore.
Be extraordinarily kind to each other. Any complaints or criticisms should be sent in email to me – not posted.
MamaPumaMass@aol.com
Love
Mama
OH NOW Bill is a liability NOW according to FOX
577 Crusaders Cross
We know and knew you would do everything possible…and run yourselves to death….sounds like your apologizing ….no need… we are very proud of everything all of you have done !!!
#592 Crusaders Cross
Thanks for the repost. Jheessssshhhh!
Murphy… Grab Bill and tell him to get in line and hold a PUMA sign….. LOOKS like Bill can not stay quiet any longer.
Just a word about Roe v Wade & the Suprem Court justices-
Roe was not overturned under Reagan, Reagan appointed Sandra Day O’Connor.
Whoever is POTUS only nominates the justice, remember, it is up to a majority vote in congress to pass the justice.
And let’s not forget the morons in congress- but I will not go there for now.
Sorry, I am just not going to be held hostage under Roe or live in fear of a SCJ appointment.
When the O’bots use that against me in their argument, I state above and usually end with- “and I wish the DNC had thought about that too, before selecting a nominee without letting the primaries and convention run their course. And I wish the DNC had not taken MY vote for granted.”
Wish I could say it shuts them up but it doesn’t, they are hard-wired to come up with their next automated response
((((((((ANNA7000))))))))
Uh oh, Fox is reporting that Obama camp having second thoughts about invesco speech, but they are going ahead with it. SO they know this grandstaging is going to hurt Obama. But they have to go thru with it now.
Friends in the military say they believe there will be a strike on Iran within the next WEEK!!!!!
#591 The people who were here last night are back on the blog now. So, I must go now. Bye, Lara08
I think I just heard that Bruce Springsting pulled out on fox
#599 fedup144
Uh oh, Fox is reporting that Obama camp having second thoughts about invesco speech, but they are going ahead with it. SO they know this grandstaging is going to hurt Obama. But they have to go thru with it now.
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I wonder what BO will do if nobody shows up….?
Hey Murphy,
You guys in Denver should gather up your group and come down to 18th & California around 11:30am. Obamanator is going to be having lunch at the Marriott across from my building. You guys could voice your opinions on a democratic roll-call. Won’t help you with the Obamanates, but I’m sure we can get some good press coverage. I’ll come join on my lunch at noon!
ANY NEWS ON ROLL CALL TODAY, NOTHING NEW ON THE NET TODAY.
Lving please dont say that……
589 hillary2008
i know elizabeth only from the view, which i get to watch almost everyday. if you think you are able to get her to put a positive spin on your point of view, go for it.
are you able to get us a phone # for gloria that we can give to murphy?
I agree, I feel that there is more value in using my vote for McCain. Why?
Well, its my feeling that if McCain is elected, they will have to take Hillary seriously in 2012.
They will say that it’s a mandate by the people that they aren’t ready to elect an Arab president, but we know it’s really about experience and lack of qualifications.
I don’t agree with the DNC and yes, I will vote for a candidate that has been elected by the will of the people, over an appointed candidate. I want fair elections in America and I’m not willing to compromise!
Voting for McCain is a statement, and sends a clear message that we won’t tolerate the injustices that are going on in the DNC.
Obama is registering so many new voters and committing caucus fraud to win, we are going to need to vote for McCain because he has to get two votes for everyone of ours.
604 vwade
you still here?
email murphy, most likely way to communicate.
Oh, I am sad right now – someone I admire (and who I thought might be for Hillary is an 0 supporter).
According to Fox, Barry (Zeus) is having second thoughts about having the laurels placed on his head at his Greek Temple/Invesco Field.
His image of being like everyone else would certainly be in question.
Fox just talking about how it is now or never for Hillary. She will not be able to recover from the loss this primary. hmmm not sure that is true. But we need her in this time.
The Invesco speech will just reinforce his celebrity, all flash no substance image.
THOUGHTS ON BEARING WITNESS:
For anyone feeling frustrated regarding a desire to take action today but not knowing what to do or where to turn (I’m one of those!), don’t forget: We’ve been taking action non-stop for months. It’s hard to hit a point where there is little action left to take (at least in this round). AND, remember, if nothing else, at this moment, we are BEARING WITNESS. That’s a huge thing to do. We are watching very carefully. We are taking note. We will likely base future actions on what is unfolding now that we likely cannot stop at this point. Bearing witness is a major and vital thing. It is not passive. It’s what a select group of people have done all through time in the face of wrong-doing. Those who bore witness became the truth-tellers, helped to ensure that history remembered, helped to build something new out of the ashes. It is no small thing to do.
Blue Blue Gal
Murphy should e-mail her:
Gloria allred@amglaw.com.
I would love to fill you in a little more if i can call you or vise versa. I can’t post alot of personal stuff here.
Way to go Bill – he is telling the country in his own way “NO We Are Not United, so don’t you believe that bs the media is feeding you!”
Remember Saddam Hussein when they pulled his statue off that pedestal. Obama is being revealed, his numbers are flailing and the DNC is delusional.
Go Puma!!!
606 Caracal Carrie I wish it wasn’t so. But there are those in the world who would use the political uncertainty in america for their own purposes. Most of the world sees O as being weak.
Blue Bluew Gal
gloriallred@amglaw.com
616 StarDust I like your analogy of the statue.
pumetta, what’s her e-mail?
611 Flasunshiner
Lord have mercy on us!
I can imagine NObama imagining himself as Zeus!
This is truly comical.
Hillary we need you please, we need you now!!!
I believe you Living…
I am a veteran and all I want to do is go and take the weapon out of my sons hand and be there in his place while he stays at home in his room playing games on the computer and doing all of the things that used to make me nuts
No new stikes please lol
Blue Blue Gal
Did yoy get ythe correction from my post #618.
The email is incorrect the first time for Gloria.
The networks are totally silent on anything going on to do with a roll call vote. How is the petition for over 800 delegates going? Have the delegations already voted?
PUMAs are making history in Denver. GO PUMAs.
And we shall continue to run. We love , admire and respect you Hillary, your speech proved once more that you are the best choice. I still have faith that somehow you will be our next President.
614 Anna7000 ~~~ Very true. We can also all unite in directing our evergies….and pray for Denver’s worst thunder and rainstorm in recent memory to occur at Invesco Field tomorrow night….at the exact moment the Rock Star’s pedesal rises up. LOL
lotts1948 – not sure what i said that deserved such a big hug, but i’ll take a hug any day, especially these dayas! thanks!
living grace – saw a couple of posts responding to mine. not ignoring you. the blog is moving so fast and i’m juggling a bunch of things today. can’t keep up. by the way, are you the one who’s sick? i thought i saw a post about it. if so, take care and rest. (if you don’t get better soon, you might want to consider suing the dnc!)
618 hillary2008
gloria does not have email capability on the convention floor per ashley, her second. thanks, though.
ABC’s News:
“Hillary has yet TO SAY “OBAMA IS QUALIFIED” – she didn’t say it in her suspension speech in June and did not say it last night.
(No-Brainer: Why should SHE LIE to her INFORMED VOTERS – let Obama and the DNC do what they do best)
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ABC reported late last night that they did not get the required number of signatures – they only had 2 hours to do it from the time they realized they were going to need the petition to counteract Obama and the DNC’s decision to not go through with a legitimate floor-vote.
(Who knows right now – it maybe ABC’s spin for their biggest advertising client)
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FOX NEWS REPORTED THIS AM that the “TALLY of the Delegate votes” will begin at 5:00PM
(I believe they are referring to the “Hotel Paper Ballots” that the DNC required delegates to cast this morning by 8:30AM.
If this is true, they may be trying to use the “total” to justify their averting a legitimate floor roll-call vote)
621 Bruce55555
It is going to be a real, honest to goodness Greek Tragedy.
620 vwade
murphy@pumpac.org
living grace – yeah, fogot about the whole weather issue. will definitely add that to my “to do” list: pray for massive rainstorm. (can you imagine if the skies opened up like that just as obama was rising up to take the stage? my god, it would by like mc cain’s mose’s commercial!)
Blue Blue Gal
I am on it.
Thx WontBackDown.
wontbackdown – is that 5pm est?
620 vwade
CORRECTION
murphy@pumapac.org
i hope to learn to type in this lifetime!!!!!!
Well~ if they want to blame PUMAs for HObo’s loss in November…… I say Why Thank You!!!
Nobama/Nobiden/November
Hillary Clinton speech was amazing, I wish the delegates would do their job and elect the most qualified candidate. Insist on a real vote.
Dirty Politics, as usual with the new DNC.
I couldn’t help feeling I was watching a woman bailing her husband out of jail, after abusing her, for the sake of “the family”.
just checked the weather in denver for tomorrow 85 sunny, we can all pray.
Above all we cannot lose hope. There is Berg’s lawsuit. And there is a whole list of other uncertainties and accusations concerning Obama. I believe enough noise about these could produce action which could eventually force him to step down. We just need to ratchet up the pressure while McCain ratchets up his campaign. It will happen.
Hillary was absolutely right about everything but….NOBAMA!!!!
620 vwade
please tell me you saw the correction.
or that somebody already corrected me.
Just two thoughts (that’s all I can manage these days in one post, LOL).
First, I lay in bed last night thinking about comments I heard that Hillary should fall in line. . . .and I went through in my head all the things Hillary and Obama did NOT have in common from the beginning, in terms of voting history and voiced philosophy. Think about it people, they are many. Hillary is common sense and intelligence on two legs. Obama is. . . well, does anyone know? LOL . . . Anyway, as one of the conservatives here, I have to point out that Hillary and McCain actually have more in common. They are both moderates, after all.
Also, wanted to say that there sure are a lot of trolls floating around. . . . bashing McCain to force your support away from Hillary and back to Obama. It infuriates me because it insults the intelligence of people here, and it is disrespectful to PUMAs reason to be here. Trolls: PUMAS ARE TOO SMART FOR YOU. GO AWAY AND GIVE UP.
Does anyone KNOW if they count votes that have been cast in a hotel room, does that mean there will be no voting on the convention floor? That delegates won’t have the chance in the public eye to cast their votes, to scream and shout for their candidate?
Jom Clayburn is on FOX. He is standing by his statements that Big Dog was a racist.
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
A Must-Read. Says it all. New Post today.
#632 Anna7000~~~ LOL
Jim Clayburn is trying to intimate that if Hobo loses, it is because of racism.
DELEGATES:
WILL THE DELEGATES PLEASE CONTACT FOX NEWS, GRETAWIRE, AND LOU DOBBS AND TELL THEM HOW YOU VOTED SO A “LEGITIMATE COUNT CAN BE HEARD BY THE VOTING PUBLIC THAT YOU REPRESENT?
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#635 Anna7000… 5:00PM Eastern? I would imagine Denver time – whatever that means to your time-zone.
Fool! It’s not that we wont vote for Obama because he’s black. We wont vote for him because he is too inexperienced and unfit for the job. Period!!!
GO MCCAIN RAIN ON OBAMA’S PARADE!!! KEEP SHOWING OBAMA FOR WHO HE IS!!!! MAKE HIM STEP DOWN!!!! OR KEEP MAKING HIM LOOK LIKE THE FOOL HE IS!!!!!
Good morning PUMA friends,
I’m really enjoying reading all of your post, … your spirit and determination is contagious!
While I would love for all of you to vote for McCain, (cause he’s my guy),
I do want to encourage you read more about his record. Whether you vote for him or not, it’s important to be an informed voter. This site is an unbiased look at the candidates record ~ http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm
4Hillary said this ~
#344 4Hillary on 08.27.08 at 9:50 am
The other reason I will not vote for McCain is because he voted against funding for law enforcement programs, including the Office of Violence Against Women programs and the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Hillary is my first reason. But my second reason is he is bad for women. Sorry.
4Hillay, while I respect your right to not vote for McCain, before you decide please read more about McCain’s record on crime.
He agrees that funding should be increased for law enforcement but he says “increases should be implemented with state and local government commitments.”
And on programs for children and women ~
• McCain co-sponsored the Sexual Offender Tracking and Identification Act
o Establish a national database at the FBI to track each person who has been convicted of a criminal offense against a minor or a sexually violent offense; or is a sexually violent predator.
o Requires each such person who resides in a State that has not established a minimally sufficient sexual offender registration program to register a current address, fingerprints, and a current photograph with the FBI for inclusion in such database, except during ensuing periods of incarceration
o This requirement extends until ten years after the date on which the person was released from prison or placed on parole or probation; or for the life of the person if that person has two or more convictions for any such offense, has been convicted of aggravated sexual abuse, or has been determined to be a sexually violent predator.
Corresponding House bill is H.R.3456. Became Public Law No: 104-236.
Here’s the link ~
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/John_McCain_Crime.htm
648 wontbackdown~~~~YESSS!!~!!!!!!!
A voice recording could be sent to all the news media with all PUMAS saying NOOOOOOOOOOO TO OBAMA!!!!
MamaPuma
Murhpy
Sent you E-mail
#638 YesSheCan on 08.27.08 at 11:53 am
Hillary Clinton speech was amazing, I wish the delegates would do their job and elect the most qualified candidate. Insist on a real vote.
Dirty Politics, as usual with the new DNC.
I couldn’t help feeling I was watching a woman bailing her husband out of jail, after abusing her, for the sake of “the family”.
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I felt the same way. Although I thought Hillary was great I am upset. In a sense I felt a sense of defeat, as if her giving that speech was a victory for them. They got the woman to do exactly what they wanted.
#640 – I totally agree. Wait until this convention is over – IF we can’t turn this around today. Obama has NO idea what he is in for. McCain’s gloves are coming off, and his supporters and Hillary supporters will make sure Obama is exposed and has the worst 2 months of his life.
PUMA’s purpose doesn’t cease if we can’t pull it off today. It BEGINS!!!! At that point, it is far too clear that our political process was highjacked by an american idol and his worshippers. This must NEVER happen again. Not in America.
#351 Headclunker on 08.27.08 at 9:56 am
He’s going down…
pouncing puma – thanks for posting that link. great piece!
wontbackdown – thanks, sort of (!). 5 pm eastern standard time or denver time (which is mountain time zone, which is 1 hour ahead of CA just as a frame of reference)?
We went through this with phone numbers, now we have emails being posted that does not belong to the person posting them.
I am not trying to call anyone out, but we have to stop doing this.
Murphy probably has a throw away phone because she posted her number on here several times. But we have no right to post someone else’s information on this blog. It could get us a lot of bad press if someone gets angry. And……it’s just not right.
I know we are all passionate about what we are trying to do….but we have to THINK before we speak.
JMO
I haven’t read all the comment yet, but I will. In the meantime I replied to Obama’s email about Michele with “Michele who?”
And I replied to Hillary’s email about her speech and delegates uniting behind Obama with:
“If you thought those delegates were unified behind Obama, you should have watched CNN and others after the speech interview a distraught AA women who was devastated that you were no longer running. And the woman with tears running down her face in despair. When you run again I will support a Democrat – not before. Wonderful speech once again, Senator Clinton. I can’t wair for Bill’s tonight.”
Some of the reactions after her speech were amazing and I’m steadfast “Nobama”. I’m ready to fight until the fall election. By the way, good morning everyone.
MICK Even though that is good info, and you are most welcome here, and we know you will be voting for McCain as many of us here will, there is no campaigning for McCain allowed on the blog. FYI We are here for Hillary or anti Hobo I like your comments and I don’t want you to get banned You can say why you are voting for McCain over Hobo….but that’s it
I was so proud of Hillary last night. She did what she had to do and she did it with class. She maintained her integrity by not vouching personally for Senator Obama but by saying she wholeheartedly supported a Democrat in the Whitehouse. We heard what she was saying — we understand. She did not release her delegates as many talking heads said she would. Also many DNC talking heads said that, in her speech, Hillary would strongly condemn the McCain ads that used her words against Obama. That also did not happen. Hillary knows what she must do to survive but she will remain true to her own beliefs. She knows in her heart that Obama is not qualified to be POTUS.
“Never give up, never give in!” Thanks Hillary
I see on Fox, that Bill will be speaking tonight. Does anyone have addition info.
GOLLY GEE!!! FOX news is seeing the light hope they will fall in line behind PUMAS!
It does say that Bill will not be at the stadium.
I guess it’s not only too late, but we don’t even have a list of delegates to call, or write to and encourage to hold firm and vote Hillary.
Oh, one more thought, while I know that we don’t vote for a candidate based on their spouse, here’s a great article about Cindy McCain that you may not have seen in the MSM.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2043921/posts
It says a lot about her character and what she will be like as a first lady.
I have yet to hear from the networks about the real travesty of this primary . . . that the DNC picked BO and did everything in their power to select him.
Now it’s all about how he got the most votes (UGGGHHH) and how it’s up to the Clintons to get behind the party choice.
The integrity of the Democratic Party is THE ISSUE, and always has been. Hillary should have been our nominee and without the heavyhanded manipulations of the DNC would have been.
WHY DOESN’T THE PRESS HAVE THE COURAGE TO REPORT ON THIS? I know, they are in the pockets of the party “leaders.” This issue, though, is what energizes PUMA and the issue that will live on long past this convention.
NEWCOMERS!!!!! I have been here since the beginning and I can tell you I can go for days without anyone responding to me even though I know I am liked. There are some people here, just like in any group, who have bonded. It took work on both of their parts, responding to each other. So if you are not responded too, first, know that is not why you are here. And if you want to be responded to more, then you need to initiate and respond to others over a period of time…and not lecturing others. This group is no different than any other group. You get back what you put in.
Now, let us get back to work. Energy is a precious thing, and it need not be wasted on personal affronts
#647 virginia.puma…
["Jim Clayburn is trying to intimate that if Hobo loses, it is because of racism."]
Thank you Mr. Clayburn!!! We “typical white folk” – and minority Clinton Voters against Obama didn’t think anyone was seeing us being called racist, terrorized at the primaries, and disenfranchised by the Obama and DNC “anything goes disenfranchisement machine”!!!
Wow! Of course, it’s that kind of racial hate that will cause him to lose – couldn’t agree with you more on this one, Mr. Clyburn!
FOX says there will be a full roll call………I guess we will see.
Call me coo coo, but no matter what happens between now and November, I still have that deep gut feeling Hillary will be the eventual Dem. nominee. It’s not inconceivable when you compare it to how crazy this past year has been.
FOX just reported that in A FULL ROLL CALL ALL STATES WILL BE CALLED PUBLICLY! They say the Obama camp realized to do anything less will not help the party!
This open roll call begins at 5:00 EASTERN, 3:00 MOUNTAIN time (local to Denver).
Just a little humor to help everyone through the raw nerves:
From abc:
“Some 80,000 supporters will see Obama appear from between plywood columns painted off-white, reminiscent of Washington’s Capitol building or even the White House, to accept the party’s nomination for president.
He will stride out to a raised platform to a podium that can be raised from beneath the floor.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5660266
Now picture this….a malfunction in the wiring causes an abrupt stop as the great O rises and knocks him right on his skinny butt in front of all those adoring obots.
Rasmussen poll out today(Aug 27), McCain +1
Gallup poll (Aug 26), McCain+2
NObama is TANKING big time!
This is copied from post #112 above. A MUST READ to promote McCain IMHO -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2043921/posts
Seems like questions are accumulating and we’re scrambling to gather answers. Often, in the process, we’re at the mercy of conflicting news reports. So, in an effort to get accurate info, I sent MamaPuma an e-mail with a few questions that it seems we’d like accurate info on:
Did they collect the required number of signatures for a roll call vote on the floor?
What’s the latest news on plans regarding the roll call vote?
Is Bill Clinton scheduled to speak, and if so, what time?
If I hear back from her with answers to any or all of these questions, I’ll post.
Secret hotel vote? Elaborate.
Bill Clinton has been sent packing. He is going “where they need him.”
McCain is good enough for me… considering the alternative.
LOL, maybe Bill will talk about Economic national security.
Fom what I know about Cindy McCain, I can’t believe that any man married to HER, would not work for the very same goals that Hillary spoke of in her speech. JMHO.
I am sure this has been posted, but just in case, FOX just announced that there will be a full roll call vote on the floor of the Convention! They said that the Obama campaign acknowledged that to deviate from this would alienate Hillary supporters because they would think they were being silenced. We have been heard!
367 LivingGrace – Hope you feel better soon. As a fellow tea drinker (tea drinkers of the world, unite!!) I recommend a cup. It’ll help what ails you…
Hooray for a full call!!! I have to get home by 5:00 Denver. How far back is that from EST? 2 or 3 hours? Yes, I am soooo dumb on some things.
#357 Asian4Hillary
I have to go along with you on that, so I can’t take that bet. Is anyone here willing to bet against BO dropping more on the Gallup Poll? Results come out around 1pm EST.
virginia – thanks for that post. great idea! thanks for taking the time to write that.
Ok …they just said they where going to have a real roll call vote..( on fox )..that they realized..it would do more harm ( pi– people off) if they didnt
Living Grace – OK, now I know it’s you! Been a while since I saw your signature IMHO!
#671 redraz9
FOX says there will be a full roll call………I guess we will see.
#673 MacAllen
FOX just reported that in A FULL ROLL CALL ALL STATES WILL BE CALLED PUBLICLY! They say the Obama camp realized to do anything less will not help the party!
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Really? I leave the room for 2 minutes to use the bathroom and I miss the most important news of the day. Darn!
Headclunker…. I hope you are right!!
My dream….Hill taking the nom……b.r.e.a.t.h.e. VA PUMA
weeeeeee won this one anyway… pray like you have never prayed before !!!!!!!!!!!!
Virginia.puma said ~
#661 virginia.puma on 08.27.08 at 12:02 pm MICK Even though that is good info, and you are most welcome here, and we know you will be voting for McCain as many of us here will, there is no campaigning for McCain allowed on the blog. FYI We are here for Hillary or anti Hobo I like your comments and I don’t want you to get banned You can say why you are voting for McCain over Hobo….but that’s it
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t see my comments as campaigning, I just wanted to post that link so others can become more informed before November. My bad.
Sometimes it’s hard to sift through all the misinformation that the MSM can bombard us with so I thought I would offer an unbiased resource. I appreciate you letting me know that it came across another way.
virginia – 4 times zones. example:
when it’s 1 pm in california
it’s 2 pm in denver, 3 pm across most of the great plains and 4 pm on the east coast
don’t worry. i get just as confused. i’m looking at my handy dandy little map on the back of my small monthly pocket calendar!
453 DeepSouth on 08.27.08 at 10:45 am Oh PUHLEEEZE!!!! Oblahblah is going to come on stage Thursday by being raised upward from a platform underneath the stage like some kind of God!
Can this get any more ridiculous???
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OH GOD! you have to be kidding….
Why don’t we just put him on a cross and then he can rise up on that and transend and transfigure right in front of everyones eyes………..
Man does he ever need a padded cell!….LOL…LOL.
go light candlessss …do anything you can think of !!!!!
#692 GBPuma
!!!!!!!!!!
MO on CNN now
#674 lovesdogs:
WOW! I thought you all were joking making fun of (bo) as we all know he is a complete looney tune,,, but then I read the link you had from abc….
IS HE INSANE! are the (bo) supporters completely Brain washed! WOW! what a childish thing to do… I can’t believe this… He is actually going to be on a Greek style / holywood scene display… dang it i was going to take a nap… Thanks for that link!
HOW! can so many be BLIND??
This WILL really hurt him, anyone with a brain (intelligence) will see the showboat, is all about nothing. I am amazed!!!!!!!! again thanks for the link!
#620 vwade on 08.27.08 at 11:46 am
I don’t have it – you have any suggestions?
Where is jbjd – need you assistance on what to do now that some of us have sent letters to the Attorney Generals.
#661 – VIRGINIA, I didn’t hear Mick “campaigning”. I think she is just trying to help people get decent information from unbiased sources, so that they can get a realistic view of McCain and make some decisions about what they need to do. I really don’t see what that should be censored here. With all respect to you, that seems like you are silencing people too.
As another McCain person, I really would like to think we are welcome here too – we respect Hillary just as much as you do. And we don’t like to be told to be quiet any more than you do. I mean this respectfully, really. I just had to say something, because your words were a slap in the face – which I’m sure you don’t intend.
(((MICK)))
659 redraz9
email posted is a public one – available on gloria’s website. not trying to cause a problem. 2008 hillary thought perhaps we could use that info.
By now, we all know there was not an accurate, honrst tally of votes during the phony primary/caucus. What makes anyone thing there will be an honest record of the votes in the election, if MCCain DID win? This makes at least three dishonest elections in a row for America.
#681 Rabblerouser ~~~ Thanks, I’m on my second cup of green tea. Still not feeling so good.
686 Anna7000 ~~~Why, I do believe you are right, IMHO.
Okay, for some of you that have been asking about the delegate supporting Hillary and not voting for Obama (black female), the video is a portion of her interview, her name is Ann Price-Mills (Hillary Delegate). In the video they said that a lot of democrats went home because they only went over there to see Hillary, they are not staying to watch Barry Obambi!
If you go to CNN “Videos”, click CNN TV/A look at Clinton Effect and you will see her.
I tried to copy the video, but there was something wrong with my process.
Let me see if I understand this correctly. The delegates will vote on paper which will be handed to an Obama worker, then attend a breakfast where Hillary will release her delegates, then the illegal secret vote will be announced by the Obama people, and we are expected to trust this an be happy with this. It this is Obama’s idea of solutions, imagine what he would do in the white house. How Democratic, Bill Clinton on a 5 second delay. I just do get that warm fuzzy feeling of unity here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdhhW-zSeU&eurl=http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Blue Blue Gal, Got it! Thanks! Hope she sees it, great opportunity to get some free press.
I was so emotionally drained yesterday from this whole election and the news of this open roll call just picked me right up!
Here is the video #702
http://www.cnn.com/video/?iref=videoglobal#
#698 Gogandalf
I had the impression last night that jbjd wasn’t going to be online today but I’m not sure.
#679 LivingGrace:
Guess where Cindy McCain is today?
In Georgia (Russia) to meet with the wounded and tour the damage and try to offer diplomatic support (on behalf of an organization she has long been involved with)
Michelle hasn’t said a word – too busy working out those those public image details, I guess.
Pssst… Michelle… on that bra-strap thing. You put a piece of double-sided tape on the skin side of the strap and press it down so it won’t slip… and it might help to keep your shoulders up.
Sorry folks… those hate-filled looks on her face last night did me in on her.
I think we need a PUMA PROWL today to all the sd’s in Denver to have a complete floor roll call – this is our only hope
703 NobamaNetwork
Well i just heard on Fox that they where going to have a real roll call vote….we will see ……….
that they where afraid of the back lash…
705 vwade
you did get the corrected addy, yes?
Ro Conn on WLS radio in Chicago reporting from Denver this morning:
“Her speech changed the dynamic on the floor. About two hours before Hillary spoke there was a big commotion. Some of her partisans – I called them insurgents and they didn’t like that – went out on the floor and were handing out a petition for a roll call vote. At this point, Obama doesn’t want to do a roll call vote. There were about 80 partisans who ran out there and started handing out the petitions. They need 800 signatures. This apparently has failed.
With Hillary on her way to the Pepsi Center and everyone getting ready for her handoff to say he won, I lost, let’s all rally around him, there were still these people.
After Hillary got up there and did a really good job, her supporters are now more angry that Obama didn’t pick her as vice-president.”
Hold on a minute!… If I remember correctly, hotel ballots were being cast at 8:30 am Denver time… Announcement about the open roll call was announced approx 10 am Denver time. That’s enough time for the Obama camp to count the votes cast by the Delegates… and if it was in “favor” of Obama, they think they have the deck stacked. Question is… which votes count… the ones given in open roll call or the hotel casted ballots????
McAllen and Mick~ It is up to Murphy to decide. I was just trying to give you a heads up. Do what you want…It makes no matter to me.
OK, I’m not clear on this….is the roll call vote about delegates, super delegates, or both?
I’m sure someone else has said this already – - but the whole Greek play theatre thing in a freaking stadium – - – am I the only person getting Hitler-esque chills up my spine? My GOD.
DELEGATES!… IF YOU ARE READING:
WILL THE DELEGATES PLEASE CONTACT FOX NEWS, GRETAWIRE, AND LOU DOBBS AND TELL THEM HOW YOU VOTED ON THIS AM’s “PAPER BALLOT” SO A “LEGITIMATE COUNT CAN BE HEARD BY THE VOTING PUBLIC THAT YOU REPRESENT AND THE DNC CANNOT MANIPULATE THE COUNT?
#709 wontbackdown…Great advise for MO…still trying to look like Jackie Kennedy!!! lol
Here is the site for lighting candles:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng
We need all the positive energy we can muster up today…we need Hillary!
#714 Kat4Puma
hmmmm….good question
If we don’t get a miracle at the roll call today, we need to be looking ahead at what we can do. We must keep Obama from succeeding, and I think our best bet is to get McCain elected. We can’t stay home and not vote or vote for a third party. Either of those two options is almost the same as a vote for obama. Our vote is our strongest weapon! And, there are a lot of way over the top Repubs who won’t vote for McCain because he’s too liberal. He has a lot of work to do in his own party to get them to get out and vote. I think they are the ones who will stay in and not vote this year, which, of course, will benefit Obama. So, more reason to vote McCain. Make no mistake, since I became old enough to vote in 1962, I have never missed voting and have never voted for a Republican, and ruining that record is not easy. But, country is first.
OK – all PUMAS listen up – I just received an email from a Clinton delegate in Denver with the following information:
ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO CONTACT AS MANY SD’s in DENVER AS POSSIBLE, UNION LEADERS, NEWSPAPERS – if there is no bonafide floor vote at the convention this will be the last time the Democratic Party will be guaranteed a slot on state ballots in YOUR OWN STATE – make them hear that everyon will work to change their State Laws of giving preferential treatment to a candidate of the Democratic Party – because the Democratic Party’s candidate was selected by the Party and not by the voters” – I have seen jbjd say almost exactly the same thing on here and now its coming from someone who can really make a difference at the convetion – please can we have a prowl on this
Well they did it anyway…the “secret” ballot…and no chain of posession……….
He/they have broke ever DNC rule there is…..I don’t see many of the Chater and Bylwa rules now that have not been violated……..and that idea that they are going to have Hillary call for a vote of unanimous is another against the delegate selections and rules of the states and DNC…..rule 17A.
Delegates begin casting ballots for president
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago
DENVER – Democratic delegates began marking their presidential nominating ballots Wednesday.
The delegates in Denver are making the unprecedented choice between a black man and a white woman, with only a limited number of votes expected to be counted in an afternoon roll call before Barack Obama is declared the nominee by acclamation.
With the convention roll call just hours away, delegates still are waiting to hear which states will get to announce their votes before the balloting is cut off.
The abbreviated vote is the result of a deal between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Obama so that some of Clinton’s backers can express their support without dragging out the voting too long.
I think if looks could kill, Hill would have been knocked off the podium by Michelle. WOW! So intense!!
prowland,
I hope so. One thing I have learned from these Democrats running this circus is I will believe it when I see it. They will continue to find ways to keep this from happening. The newsmedia is hungry for a violent eruption to report on and seem to be trying to fan the fire. Hillary was brilliant but spoke so much about never giving up or giving in which told me she is being forced. Women have also been forced, until we band together. I hope God is listening to our voices today.
Shafting Big Dog may prove even more inflammatory than a sham roll call. It may be the difference between a McCain landslide and McCain 50 states victory
OK EVERYONE, SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT
yesterday I made a comment that dem candidates generally don’t lose traction in the polls during their convention, they gain. I did some research and here is what I found.
John Kerry lost one point during his convention. Other then that the last dem to lose points in the polls during their convention was McGovern in 72. Well we all know how those campaigns ended.
BO is down by two in gallup and has lost 3 since convention began. Also remember that Kerry lost by just over 3 million votes. According to the polls 30 percent of us won’t vote BO. That’s nearly 5.5 million, more then enough to keep BO out of the white house.
Living Grace – If memory serves me correctly (nothing to hang your hat on these days though!) and if this goes down as in prior conventions (no reason to believe that given how things have unfolded to date):
Each state is called one by one, in order of the alphabet. The states votes are pledged delegates. The state can with have their delegates vote or can choose to pass to the next state. (If they pass, it comes back to them at the end.)
Then, if after all the states pledged delegates vote, neither candidate has enough votes to clinch the nomination, the supers vote.
But don’t quote me on that.
Several times yesterday Fox news reported on the ad you must see here. http://www.nobamanetwork.com/
They spoke on the connection between Nobama and Ayers but said they decided not to show the ad. Cowards.
i’m confused – is there a roll call or the hotel room paper ballots?
#661 Virginia-Are we not supposed to tell people to vote for McCain? That is probably the most effective “action” left for we People United Means Action if she doesn’t get the nom. I, a Dem not privvy to Repub sources, am very grateful to receive unbiased info and do not consider it negative to Hillary.
WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER CALLED HIM “CARPTHIA” (sp?)
OBAMA’S EGO CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE THE TRUTH FROM THE FALSE – AND NOW HE THINKS HE WAS THE ONE THAT CONQUERED NOT ONLY THE CLINTON’S, DEMOCRACY AND THE AMERICAN VOTER…. BUT ROME, TOO!
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we were told yesterday that we are free to any individual prowls that we want.
see post #722
#722 bobram
My HRC source in Denver (a national delegate) tells me just minutes ago that the vote will be taken on the floor today. No hotel vote. It will be a full roll call vote.
Spike Lee is on CNN saying that ‘world time’ will change after BO is elected. BB-before barack and AB-after barack. Move over that BC/AD thing!
MURPHY – Know you are busy – GRANDPA here
As you know I have not posted for awhile for many reasons (one of which is still ongoing this site takes forever to past a one line comment)
I did not get involved with the Attorneys General project that was done yesterday by several posters apparently – HOWEVER – I have received 6 emails – count them 6 from delegates and SD that I personally got involved with signing a petition for Hillary – every single solid one of them said that contacting the AG was perfect – it has filtered down now to the delegates – what they all have said is to send out mass communications to everyone that we should have a complete floor roll call and we just might be surprised at the results – not to give undue hope here – but at least they are giving us a clue on what to do – can we get one last prowl today to help in this cause.
Very proud of what all of you are doing in Denver – you make this old heart warm —-
People let’s not forget why we are here working so hard to stop the presumptive nominee. Further info:
Something completely overlooked by people:
While Obama was sitting as Chairman of the Chicago Annenbug challenge doing the bidding of Bill Ayers, he was also sitting in the Illinois State Senate, passing legislation supporting Bill Ayers laundry list.
Who is stupid enough to not think that this would also happen if Obama became POTUS?
According to Steve Diamond Obama and Ayers were working on a reparations plan to give AA’s free educations. Now think about that for a minute — you give one group free educations while the rest struggle to send our kids to college and you can see that in 20 years you have redistributed the wealth of this country
#513 Anna7000
Anna- I am sick too of the blame it on Hillary mentality but what I am really starting to push back on everyone, why is it Hillary’s responsibility to win us over?
Why did BO go on a “let’s pretend I am president ” world tour in July, instead of reaching out to her supporters?
Because he is an arrogant misogynist who thinks he can win this election without or vote.
I can’t wait to watch him scurry away with his tail between his legs in a state of DISgrace.
Yea, I got the corrected e-mail for Murph. Thanks!
I hope they show up, I feel like venting today!
Further sources:
“Ayers and Darling-Hammond both hold the same opinion on a key education policy issue: support for repayment of centuries of “educational debt” to people of color.”
“Bill Ayers endorsed the proposal for the repayment of the centuries of “educational debt” that some allege is owed to people of color. This is a proposal that Professor Darling-Hammond has also endorsed.”
Professor Darling-Hammond is an education advisor to the Obama campaign.
730 Blue Blue Gal
You meant hotel room “toilet” paper ballots right??
Okay everyone — let’s have a group hug and a group cry. This video takes on a whole new meaning this morning. “The Call”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne5rAfGy2ZU
This is one of the best I’ve seen.
738 GOSUEF4HIL EXACTLY!!!!
#728 Anna7000~~~ Thanks, Anna. At this point it doesn’t sound like anything resembling that is even going to happen.
I am getting emails from a stupid little obamanot:
“What a creepy web site you have. I can’t decide if your website makes you look like racists, sore losers or both. You are the fever swamp of American politics that makes my skin crawl.”
David Dabney redroostercreative@gmail.com
He needs a warm welcome from the PUMAs
#734 firechief on 08.27.08 at 12:33 pm
My HRC source in Denver (a national delegate) tells me just minutes ago that the vote will be taken on the floor today. No hotel vote. It will be a full roll call vote.
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Will it be televised? I don’t have cable etc….somebody please keep us posted here if you get to watch.
Anyone who is intellectual knows racism does not come into play in our decision of Obama; it is much more complicated than that. The DNC came up with a generic rebuttal to any defiance.
They are now in deep trouble because they seem incapable of being able to make changes based on any logical disapproval.
If Obama cannot reason with the American voter – Lord help us if he faces any nuclear disaster
#720 -Battle for the Hill
I’m looking for the answer now…
741 MsBinMD
roflmao -
and thanks, needed that.
What would Bill have to lose if he just said anything he WANTED to say?
just a question -
what does chelsea do in “her” life?
“Perhaps the best example of the persistent divide in the Democratic Party came after Clinton’s speech Tuesday night. The lights went down in the Pepsi Center, and some influential Democrats left downtown for good. They planned to head for the airport and fly home, long before Obama accepts the nomination in a speech at Invesco Field on Thursday night.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/26/AR2008082603921_pf.html
NObama broke it, he has to fix it ALONE!
FOX will be discussing the rift in Democratic Party after commercial break.
700 Blue Blue Gal
I’m sorry Blue Blue Gal
I should have checked that out before saying anything. I just get a little paranoid that the wrong people are going to say we are passing along personal info.
I was wrong for speaking before I checked it out.
Just as a further note – one of the delegates is mad as hell and not going to put up with it anymore (almost like me trying to post on this site) with all the strong arm tactics being done already with this convention and other “activities” going on as we speak and that is why they want a floor roll call vote
Sorry if anyone is responding back to me – but I can not spend twenty minutes trying to respond back to each response because of this system here – I will be too busy contacting everyone “I KNOW” to have a floor roll call like in every other 15 conventions that I have seen or attended.
754 redraz9
i am more famous than you for doing that !!!!!!!!!!
i have feet, i insert both in mouth – lol lol
Gotta go…back tonite for the CALL!!!!!!!
#736 Goalucard4Hill on 08.27.08 at 12:34 pm :
- I have received 6 emails – count them 6 from delegates and SD that I personally got involved with signing a petition for Hillary – every single solid one of them said that contacting the AG was perfect – it has filtered down now to the delegates …..
can we get one last prowl today to help in this cause.
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Can we ???
745 NobamaNetwork ~~~ Never argue with morons or idiots~~~They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. lol
#746 notfollowthepiedpiper
If you go to http://www.politicswest.com you can get the full agenda for today podium schedule, by time. It lists everyone who will be speaking, and all business. Times for each individual are not specific — they give a window. I would expect you can see it all on C-Span.
Agenda says:
The “Call for the Roll Call Vote” will be done by Pelosi (sometime between 3:00 and 5:00 Denver time — the window on the agenda).
Immediately following the Call for Roll Call , the agenda says “Roll Call Vote” led by Alice Travis Germond.
GO HILLARY.
re: post #722
This is the same AG prowl Grandpa refers to in #736.
IT WORKED!
This is the email I am sending to superdelegates and the media (lists from old prowls):
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SUBJECT: No Floor Vote, No Dice
NOTICE TO ALL SUPERDELEGATES
If there is no bonafide open floor vote at the convention this will be the last time the Democratic Party will be guaranteed a slot on state ballots in FLORIDA.
Everyone will work to change our State Laws that give preferential treatment to a candidate of the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party’s candidate–Barack Obama–was selected by the Party and not by the voters.
Please pass the word to all Delegates and Superdelegates–we are serious!
I hope Hillary in the secrecy of the ballot box votes for McCain with a PUMA paw mark on the paper ballot.
Bill will probably vote for McCain for sure. Bill really took a bad rap by Obama. Disgraceful. Bill was a super president. I always thought that Hillary was the real brains behind the Clinton years. The newspapers at the time used to say that Hillary was the real President.
Go Hillary Go
I get the chance to growl at a party guy calling me ti support Obama
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/nys-democratic-party-called-me/
KEEP GOING, HILLARY!
KEEP GOING!! KEEP GOING!!
#761 do we have email addy’s??? I would love to flood them with emails today!
Latest Gallop Poll out:
Obama 45%
McCain 44%
Still a statistical dead heat, but i liked it better with McCain on top.
Anyway, while the polls surely have a powerful effect on public opinion, it’s going to boil down to the electoral map. And the way it looks right now, we have our work cut out for us if we want to defeat Obama in the GE, assuming he’s the Dem’s nominee.
firechief – thank you so much for posting that link. will go check it out now.
If they’re agreeing to a floor vote, it’s probably because they tallied up the “hotel room” votes and know he’ll win. More manufactured B.S.
I’m sure in each private hotel room the state chair pressured her delegates to tow the party line.
And it will be the state chairs who stand up and announce the total vote for their state, so how would a delegate change his vote now?
If they had a secret ballot of the delegates right now, without interference,after that speech, Hillary Clinton would win it.
my goodness, no one could make responses to all these posts…going very fast but good progress. I am from Texas and will vote for McCain since I can’t vote for my girl. This “write in” thing is too risky. I don’t want to take a chance of writing in Hillary’s name and that counting as a vote for Obama. I don’t think I plan to change my party yet. I want all the pollster to see come November exactly how many over 50 Democratic women voted for McCain. They wouldn’t see that if I became an independent. That fact alone will speak volumes. Don’t know if anyone will pay any attention to this post…but wanted to throw my 2 cents in anyway. Go PUMA’s!!!
#736 Goalucard4Hill
It’s wonderful to see you back. You’ve been missed.
Thanks for the good news and encouragement.
Here’s today’s convention schedule link:
http://www.politicswest.com/29235/day_3_dnc_podium_schedule_aug_27_2008
#722 bobram
JUST TELL US WHAT TO DO – LET’S POUNCE!!!!!
http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissues
To Howard Dean and the DNC ~
I owe you a large debt of gratitude.
Thank you . . . for showing the world what “LEADERSHIP” means.
Thank you . . . for showing the world what “EXPERIENCE” sounds like.
Thank you . . . for showing the world what “PRESIDENTIAL” looks like.
Hillary Clinton’s speech last night was phenomenal!
Her supporters are called stubborn, but I submit to you that it is the DNC who is bringing down the Democratic party by stubbornly clinging to a sinking ship. If Hillary were the nominee, she would be trouncing John McCain in the polls right now.
Barack Obama cannot win in November.
Hillary Clinton would win effortlessly.
It’s your choice.
PRINT THIS EMAIL, tack it to the wall somewhere, and read it again in November.
There’s still time . . .
NOMINATE HILLARY!
Murphy – have you talked to Gloria Allred yet?
When are y’all closing up shop there?
#674 lovesdogs on 08.27.08 at 12:09 pm
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Unbelievable. Pffft. His arrogance is a gift that just keeps giving. Cannot wait to see the cartoons coming out on this move.
I did hear this am on Fox though that the BO campaign is having second thoughts about the whole invesco coronation. Gosh, I just wish the delegates would start having second thoughts, finally wake up from their stupor, and actually vote us a Presidential nominee instead of a Greek idol. I am so sick of this crap. We saw OUR President last night. That women has got it, and is it. What a waste of a political Party this Dem Party has become. All talk and no action, all show and no substance. I’m taking a break. BBL
anna7000
thanks for posting the entire politcswest link. we appreciate it!
Hey PUMAs. I’m admittedly not 100% familiar with what y’all are up to but I figure it’d be better to come here to the source than let the media define you.
What’s the level of concern over supreme court judges McCain could appoint? Is this movement more a matter of principle than issues, or how would you describe it?
sure wish they’d let each delegate voice their own vote.
#493 jenniforhillary
Thanks for your tears and your passion! We have made history here, whether or not Hillary is the nominee. There is no such thing now as ANY Democrat running for office without thinking of what the PUMAs are going to do! WE ARE ON THE MAP NOW!
We have the strongest, fiercest, most passionate leader in Hillary. She is the brightest of stars and she will continue to shine long after Obama has fizzled out.
Good luck to our brave PUMAs in Denver. Keep fighting the good fight. We are with you and we have your back!
NYCgirl
LivingGrace @@@@@@@@@ Good afternoon. Any news from Murphy ?? Haven’t caught up on the post’s yet.
sandbag – love your passion and thanks for your post. unfortunately, it’s not howard dean who can nominate hillary at this point. it all boils down to the pledged delegates and the supers today.
firechief and anna7000
thanks for the link
New Jersey governor on CNN right now saying that the NJ delegates took an informal poll this morning, and they will be voting unanimously for Obama.
Any New Jersey residents out there??
772 Sandbag
Love it!! I was never one to say “I told you so”, but I’m going to enjoy saying it to Dean, Pelosi, and Brazile in November!
Just found this posted at FOX’s online convention coverage (updated minute to minute):
“The state delegations at the Democratic National Convention have received their tally sheets to be filled out Wednesday and turned in quickly so the roll call for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton can begin promptly at 5 p.m. ET.
Obama aide Jenny Backus said one nominating speech and two seconding speeches for Clinton will be offered followed by four speeches — one nominating and three seconding speeches — for Obama. The event will take about 30 minutes.
Afterward, the tally sheets will be collected and the roll call will begin with each state’s delegation chair reporting the results.
Backus refused to answer a direct question seeking to confirm that there will be no stoppage and 50 states will “have their say.”
However, The Associated Press reported that the roll call will continue until all votes are counted or someone asks the delegates to give the nomination to Obama by acclamation.
Democratic officials close to Clinton said they plan to have someone — perhaps Clinton herself — cut off the vote after a few states. Clinton delegates were to meet with Clinton at the Pepsi Center, where the convention is taking place, during the early afternoon to discuss the procedures, according to John Flannery, a pledged Clinton delegate from Virginia.
Flannery said most delegates have been in the dark about how the roll call works.
“That’s a good question and I don’t think that anybody knows the answer. I think the real question on some of the delegates mind is whether or not the roll call will be more faux than fair,” Flannery told FOXNews.com.
“What I think they’re going to do -– and there may be some theater -– is that they’ll have two states that are going to stand up and say, ‘We have 25 votes for Obama and six and a half for Hillary Clinton’ and then the next one will say something and then someone will stand up and say, ‘We should all vote for Obama’ and then there will be no protest … or there will be a protest. But human nature is such as to avoid conflict when possible. I don’t think there will be a protest,” Flannery continued.”
I LOVE THE VIDEO “THE CALL” Some much talent there. I have to go off for some time just to have a good long cry………………….KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
722 bobram
OK done !!!!!!!!! everyone of them……!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just hope they check there email
this is carma… they deserve eveything we are giving them….
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and no i didnt put pumapac…on it so don’t chew me out !!!!
no news from murphy
we do not know about gloria ): ):
#768 Noblecascade
I KNOW – LOTS HAPPENING HERE TODAY! GLAD TO SEE YOU. AND I AM WITH YOU – NO HILLARY – THEN LET IT RAIN MCCAIN.
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to sound negative, but no matter what they say about this being a full roll call vote, I don’t believe it. The process has already been tainted to ensure Bo get the nomination. Delegates have been switched and intimidated so where is the fairness?
#745 NobamaNetwork on 08.27.08 at 12:39 pm
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Probably the same one that was bombing my blog the other day with the same sort of messages. LOL Twits.
Pay no heed to them.
#709wontbackdown: I just got on here but I am really surprised not to see more people commenting about Mo last evening and Hillary’s speech if looks could have shut Hillary up then she would be mute today there was one point when the camera’s were on Mo where her tongue was hanging out the side of her mouth and she had the most evil look on her face.
#789 beverl leslie
DITTO – THIS WHOLE ROLE CALL IS A SHAM, A FAKE A LITTLE GESTRUE TO APEASE US.
WHY WOULD ALL NJ DELEGATES GO FOR OBAMA WHEN SHE WON THAT STATE IN THE PRIMARIES.
PEOPLE, THIS SIMPLY IS NOT RIGHT, NOT FAIR AND NOT REFLECTING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. THIS IS BS. THE ONC IS GOING DOWN LIKE A LEAD ZEPPLIN!!! BRING ON MCCAIN!
782 sandbag on 08.27.08 at 12:58 pm
New Jersey governor on CNN right now saying that the NJ delegates took an informal poll this morning, and they will be voting unanimously for Obama.
Any New Jersey residents out there??
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Even though Hillary won NJ and she is the more electaable candidate. Where is the justice?
#780 Anna7000
Of course I know that Howard Dean doesn’t nominate the candidate . . . I’m just going on the record, making some noise, letting them know that I’m not going to do as I’m told, etc. . . . .
779 KENDALBLUE ~~~ Hey, girl. How ya doing? I haven’t heard anything from Murphy, but someone did say they are breaking camp to head back home.
Everyone here is just thrilled with the way this convention has gone. NOT!!!!
beverl leslie – i tend to agree. i feel that whether the roll call is held on the floor, or not, it’s all theatre at this point. the dnc has been sliding down a slippery slope closer and closer towards autocracy and the convention is the culmination of their devious efforts. we still have choices though: take action any time we feel inspired to do so and/or make our voices heard in the voting booth. no denying it’s impossible not to feel enraged not only at what’s going on, but about the fact that it’s been allowed to happen. media doesn’t seem to care and neither does a large portion of the electorate, apparently.
#776 tkd
“What’s the level of concern over supreme court judges McCain could appoint? Is this movement more a matter of principle than issues, or how would you describe it?”
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For me it’s a chance worth taking. McCain seems to have a high regard for fairness. He refused to leave prison camp out of order, even though early release was offered because of his father’s status. That speaks volumes to me.
I thought Hillary was great last night. If they steal it from her again, I will vote McCain with a clear consious.
I will NEVER vote nobama.
(((((((((Goalucard4Hill)))))))))))))))
So darn glad to see our name on the blog!
378 TrishfromCanada I just got back and reading posts – good for you. Some people don’t understand that we don’t try to “push” others when it comes to a personal vote. You know I haven’t, but you know how I feel also. Thanks for your post!!
i hear you, sandbag. more power to you for finding the energy to shout out to the dnc!
that would be *YOUR** name on blog.
791 Pookie ~~~ Since last night, I think we’ve pretty much beat all the fleas outta that rug.
If my comments sound like I am blaming “racism” on Obama – I am not. It is the absurdy of his defeat being blamed on racism.
143 days in the Senate does not a “president” make.
A history of crooked relationships does not credibility make.
Destroying legitimate democratic processes does not political integrity make.
I am sick of the Obama machine of deception – Racism is not the issue.
Someone who is more talented than I am, please when things settle down make a list of all the videos which have been made about Hillary and also the good ones from the delegates because I am having a really hard time keeping track of all of them. I want to email the addresses to all of my friends at work who also love Hillary. I am not sure what happens to the threads once they are changed. If it is too much work I guess Maryland Puma will help me when she gets home.
I don’t know the person (s) who are making these but they are great. Who sings the songs and where do they come from?
Just stupid questions to be asking when everyone else is trying to do more important things!
Since I don’t know what else to do, I am going to go out and cut grass and pray!!!
YOU GUYS REALLY ROCK!!! Half the time I don’t even know what it is your are doing……….but keep it up.
I think it’s wonderful that Obama is planning a Hollywood-style extravaganza. He can rise above the multitudes on his platform and waft over the adoring crowds. With lightening and thunder in the background,
it should provide an awesome sight. After delivering his Sermon from the Mount he can bless the loaves and fishes to distribute to the crowd in their AT&T tote bags.
right on wontbackdown.
#776 tkd on 08.27.08 at 12:56 pm
Hey PUMAs. I’m admittedly not 100% familiar with what y’all are up to but I figure it’d be better to come here to the source than let the media define you.
What’s the level of concern over supreme court judges McCain could appoint? Is this movement more a matter of principle than issues, or how would you describe it?
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{“THE WHOLE ISSUE OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES IS COMPLETELY OVERBLOWN BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. REPUBLICAN JUDGES ARE THE ONES THAT DECIDED LAWRENCE VS. TEXAS, A LAW THAT ORIGINALLY MADE IT A CRIMINAL OFFENSE TO ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL ACTS, CONSERVATIVE JUDGES CLEARLY DETERMINED THAT WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOMES IS THEIR BUSINESS.
AS MOST ATTORNEYS CAN ATTEST, THE JUDICIAL BELIEF OF MOST CONSERVATIVES REGARDING PRIVACY ISSUES ARE SO STRONG, THAT THEY WILL GO AGAINST THE BASIC WISHES OF THOSE WHO NOMINATED THEM, WHO TEND TO BE “SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES” (SOMETHING THAT MCCAIN IS NOT). THIS CAN ALSO BE SEEN IN MANY CASES THAT HAVE DEALT WITH GUANTANAMO BAY AND THE ABUSES THEREIN.
IN FACT, IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT IF YOU TRULY WISH TO HAVE A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT PROTECTS YOUR PRIVACY RIGHTS AND DOESN’T EXPAND TOO MUCH, YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE A MCCAIN PRESIDENT NOMINATE THEM THAN A SOCIALIST OBAMA. SPECIALLY CONSIDERING HIS UTTERLY INVASIVE JUDICIAL BELIEFS.”
803 LivingGrace: I am glad I have my 2 year old grandson so I have not been able to keep up with the posts. I just can’t wait to watch Glenn Beck tonight and hear his assessment of the MO moments
mpdamon – your post was quite enjoyable. then, when i reached the very very end it reached the level of hysterical!
#776 TKD
For me personally, if Hillary isn’t the nominee, I’ll vote for McCain. If you’d told me 2 years ago that I’d be voting for a Republican, I would’ve laughed in your face.
But I’ll do it, to fight to keep elections fair in future, to make my vote count for something, and to encourage honest journalism.
If Roe v Wade and I could make it through 8 years of Bush, I’ll sure we’ll survive 4 of McCain. Abortion will not become illegal.
And McCain isn’t Bush, I respect him and feel he has more experience and a better ability to reach across the aisle than Obama. These are tough times, we need experience.
It’s not too late, SUPERS DO YOUR JOB, vote for the electable candidate!!!!
If John McCain was such a bad guy, I have a hard time believing a woman like Cindy would have married him. It would seem to me that he needed her alot more than she would need him for anything.
As we have so auspiciously learned, a man’s wife says a whole lot about the man himself.
#651 Mick – Thanks so much for that info on McCain. I always felt good about my choice of McC, but after reading this additional info, it makes me feel even better….and on #667, you’re right you don’t hear anything on Cindy…thanks for that info also!
#736- omg just what we need is HOPE! thanks for sharing!!
sorry about pics~ I fell asleep… will try in a while… got to get cleaned up..
Thanks Anna, I try.
So at this point we have:
- a faction of the government (DNC and Obama) strongarming and bullying political dissenters
- blatant manipulation and corruption at the caucus level
- government censorship of information and manipulation of fair voting system (attempt at private behind-closed doors balloting)
- government censorship of information to public (Dean’s 5-second delay on Bill’s speech)
- raising of a figurehead based on carefully constructed public image
These are all hallmarks traditionally of the ways in which a totalitarian regime begins. Think about it.
MIMI1020 and other pumas that want some action that I know works – send the letter like #761 Jody in Florida sent using past emails and media – they are NOW listening – got two more emails – and one MENTIONED Jodi’s letter – THIS WORKS –
Thank you also for those that welcomed me home.
By the way – this has to be done N O W – as the roll call will be in a couple of hours – some of them want to take our emails and show others BEFORE the roll call
Do we have a prowl going on????? What’d I miss?? I’m ready to pounce!
806 mpdamon
And laughter will be heard around the world!
How humiliating for this Country.
if you say something enough people believe it He is not nom. How can he take over everything like this How arrogant he is . I hear he cannt fill stadium. Not haveing bands he said
Hillary on Ellen
#817 Goalucard4Hill
CONSIDER IT DONE! i WILL SEND TO NEWSMEDIA & THE DELEGATES.
tHANKS!
Delegates voting at hotels ( Election Fraud Continues)
excerpt: Some delegates were confused because Sen. Clinton was not expected to release her delegates until the afternoon.
“It doesn’t make any sense to me,” said Mary Sullivan, a Clinton delegate from Albany, N.Y. “I’m gonna vote for Hillary. I’m a Clinton delegate and she hasn’t released me yet.”
Clinton is expected to address delegates this afternoon.
Sullivan said she had been startled by the hostility toward Clinton on the part of some Obama supporters.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
LivingGrace @@@ thanks. I did a lot of thinking last night instead of SLEEPING. I feel very strongly that in order to get justice and put an end to this corrupt Dem party, Dr COWARD DEAN AND GANG, we must stand united in our vote for McCain. Hold our nose if necessary, but just do it ! We have to keep credibility for the Puma democrats. We have to stand by OUR WORD ! Our convictions we have fought for thus far. Change can only come sometimes by hard sacrifices. We have to stay united and not be tempted to make nice. Obama is not just ANY candidate, he is DANGEROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY. That is my BIGGEST reason for not being able to vote for a CROOK. My country comes 1st. I have seen 1st hand why such countries as Argentina are called 3rd world countries. The people are WONDERFUL but the government keeps them down. I will not give away my God given right to cast my vote for someone who can DAMAGE my country. If people would actually leave America and travel the world a little, they would come to realize that what we LIVE here is much better than what MOST live in this world. And we must FIGHT to keep DEMOCRACY ALIVE AND WELL. It is a precious commodity, and worth fighting for.
ROFL
Well PUMA, welcome to the conservative world!! James Carville’s shoes and the PUMA gang have made it to Michelle Malkin’s site this morning!! Woo Hoo, go PUMA!
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/27/disgruntlement-chic-james-carvilles-footwear-message/
FOX talking about delegates on the floor to voice support for HIllary today – after commercial break.
What’s going on? any news from Denver?
Fox just said that there would be a floor roll call and that Hillary people would be allowed to speak.
NORTHERN NEIGHBOR and MIMI1020 – what alucard said – use Post #761 Jody’s letter time is fleeting – find that its always better to keep busy and does make a difference in the long run.
my delegate tells me just now:
they did not take a breakfast hotel vote.
they have a hillary meeting today at 1:15.
they have to be on the floor by 3:00.
that’s all I know.
re#768 noble
you make perfect sense to me..
755 Goalucard4Hill I’m happy to see you – you are one of those people that I have always admired – you always seem to keep everyone so focused.
re #811 YesSheCan:
“It’s not too late, SUPERS DO YOUR JOB, vote for the electable candidate!!!!”
If they did that, wouldn’t she be selected and not elected?
#761 jody in florida
#817 Goalucard4Hill
Thanks for the prowl guys – it felt good. Sent off Jody’s letter to all news media emails as well as the delegates I had in my bank.
WOOHOOOOOOO – LISTEN UP ONC – WE ARE WATCHING YOU!
This is my own personal opinion – but to me BO could do more damage in 4 min as president than McCain could do in 4 years.
That is why we need Hillary. I am still hoping that something will come out that will force BO to step down.
Would never chew you out Prowlland – you are the bestest PUMA ever – WE know who you are. LOL
816 MacAllen
hear hear !!!!!! i second the idea.
LOL Hotmail cut me off–too many msgs in 24 hours. I’ll have to use another acct. Back to work.
#833 JeffInNC
NO – BECAUSE HILLARY WAS ELECTED….HELLO?
WERE HAVE YOU BEEN?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHuzZTQPD7k&eurl
Harriet Christian at the Democratic National Convention
repost -
835 Middle age female on 08.27.08 at 1:24 pm This is my own personal opinion – but to me BO could do more damage in 4 min as president than McCain could do in 4 years
isn’t that the truth!
i heard that joe biden and michelle will show up behind obama in his greek temple on thursday dressed up in greek togas and the special effects crew there at invesco will fire off some fake lighning bolts everytime obama raises his mighty hand..
#833 JeffInNC
Unless Bo had blackmailed them
#819 NObamaDem
jbjd has one that will be posted momentarily.
If they did take a paper vote/ ballot this morning, who’s to say that their vote has to stay the same when they are on the floor voting. Without the floor vote its hidden from the public, just like their caucases.
On the lawsuit, if they can prove it, why don’t they just get the INS to deport him back to Indonesia or Kenya…..
August 27, 2008
Obama’s Bag of Tricks
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_bag_of_tricks.html
This by the JERK
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/the_better_hillary_does_the_wo.html
August 27, 2008
The Better Hillary Does, the Worse for Obama
I Guess People Are Seeing The Light
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/us/politics/27assess.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1219831671-6XhoBVQjMyH6ZxW65yeZGQ&oref=slogin
For Obama, a Challenge to Clarify His Message
842 pink puma
I’ll ONLY watch Bill Clinton speech tonight, then I’ll switch channel. Even last night I did not watch all speakers, I just watch Hillary. My PRESIDENT won’t be there Thursday night in Invesco, Terry McCaulif (sp) is leaving Denver after President Bill Clinton deliver his speech.
I’m working on an op-ed piece that is requiring a lot of reseach. Trish had been incredibly kind in assisting me with some of what I need to back up my claims. Here’s a link to something written back in April (seems like a lifetime ago) that is so right on and well written. I know it’s after the fact, but I thought some of you might appreciate it anyway:
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200804300001
Had to log on for a second…
last night one of the women (she had short hair) on the round table chat (the one where demonstrators are directly behind the speakers) said that she could NOT understand the problem women were having with the DNC and the O ticket because this year was the MOST pro-women year in the history of the world.
I cannot stop thinking about this statement, and I have a migraine because of it. Instead of TELLING me how great you are to women, why not SHOW ME. Hillary Rodham Clinton was treated like SHIT and she is every woman and the DNC has humiliated her and the CLINTON FAMILY and I will NEVER UNDERSTAND who many millions in this country can stand by and not be upset and join PUMA.
I don’t need someone, especially a man, to tell me how good you are to women. And after telling Hillary to quit over and over and blaming her and calling her and bill racists and the rest of us stupid racists you can LITERALLY go straight to HELL.
I am upset. Actually, I am more than upsest. I am BEYOND BITTER. And do NOT mistake my tears for weakness because I will NEVER STAND DOWN.
HILLARY OR MCCAIN…HILLARY OR MCCAIN…HILLARY OR MCCAIN!!
AND SPIKE LEE may you choke on your hypocrisy….
PROUD BITTER RELIGIOUS MIDDLE CLASS WORKING THINKING AMERICAN who WILL NEVER VOTE NOBAMA!!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT..she won so GET OVER IT and step out of her way!!
david axelrod says that obama has a a surefire way of winning the presidency..his hope and change powers are magical..especially CHANGE..
david says there’s now way obama could lose with his magical change powers because if necessary obama can change himself into john mccain!!
If I would ever be comfortable voting republican, I am very comfortable with McCain. If I can’t vote Hillary I know and feel satisfied, that I do have a choice. And its not Obama!
Just had to come back and post before I leave. bill is brooding today at the BROWN PALACE HOTEL!!!!! You found em guys!!!! Send lots of love his way!!!
But she wasn’t elected – she got fewer delegates. If it was a contest for the popular vote, wouldn’t it be fairer to tell them at the beginning? :-/
845 ROSEMAY57
would be fine with me…
he has to have American Citizenship also…wouldn’t you think ? But a to be POTUS you can’t have dual citizenship…right ?
845 ROSEMAY57…………… lmao….amen !!
Mimi1020 – doesn’t it feel good to feel like you have done something at the last minute that might make a difference – it has given me energy as well -
#819Nobama – what some of us are doing to pass away our time and based on actual comments from delegates is taking #761 Jody in Floridas letter and sending it to all the past prowl emails we have done and the media – we need them to know that they will be punished on the State levels if they do not give us a full floor roll call
My response from the Washington State Attorney General’s office:
Ms. xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
I am responding on behalf of Attorney General McKenna to your message, which is copied below.
As you acknowledge in your message, the State of Washington plays no role within the internal processes of each political party. I understand from your message that you are not satisfied with the procedures used within one of those parties to select their presidential nominee. Those procedures, however, are not related to any Washington laws regarding access to the ballot in this state.
In Washington, any candidate can file for office simply by filing a declaration of candidacy and paying a filing fee (or submitting petitions in lieu of the filing fee). While candidates may, if they choose, express their own personal preference for a political party, political parties as such do not have any special access to the ballot. The Presidential primary works a little differently than other offices, but at root in this state it is candidates, and not parties, that qualify to appear on the ballot.
I trust that this information will be helpful.
Jeff Even
Deputy Solicitor General
CCTN: 129901
Now what????
I am getting frustrated again with the MSM. They are critiquing Hillary’s speech again. One Obama supporter says she could have said that “he is supremely qualified to be President”. Well, I think the reason she did not say that is because he is not and she is not a liar! Cheeze! Don’ these guys get it! She supported Obama and kept her own integrity in tact. God bless Hillary!
Coming up on FOX:
Hillary could still be Obama’s VP
842 pink puma So you heard about the “Greek” temple also? And that “he” is going to be presented as a “diety?” Someone on TV last nite tried to say it looked like the “White House.”
fox just say hill could be vp – after commercial – you all have time to turn to it
Here is what I have just heard from someone who is watching FOX. According to Major Garrett of Fox News:
1) The floor roll-call vote will occur, beginning somewhere around 3:00PM (eastern time).
2) It will end at 5:00PM (eastern time).
3) Fox News will give a tally of the results, immediately following the tally (5:00PM eastern time).
4) There are still conflicting rumors that the floor roll-call vote will be stopped (at the state of Illinois or New York) and call for a Nomination by Acclamation
5) There have been reports that Nancy Peolosi and Obama have agreed (Unconfirmed)that the only way to move forward (in unity) is to have a FLOOR ROLL-CALL VOTE AND THAT ALL STATES SHOULD BE HEARD. (This could be what they are saying but doing the opposite behind the scenes)
6) This morning, delegates were required to sign a sheet by 10:00AM, stating who they intended to vote for.
7) For Pelosi and Obama to STOP THE FLOOR ROLL-CALL VOTE CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING – HE WOULD LOSE THE VOTE (IMO)
IT IS NOT OVER UNTIL THIS PROCESS IS OVER (HOWEVER IT UNFOLDS)!
DO NOT GIVE UP ON THESE DELEGATES, YET! THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE THEY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING!
TOO MANY HIGH-UPS IN BOTH PARTIES REALIZE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW – THEY PICKED THE WRONG CANDIDATE TO WIN THE ELECTION!
DO NOT GIVE UP ON HILLARY – EVER! SHE HAS PROVEN HERSELF THE PEOPLE’S PRESIDENT AND A LEGITIMATE CHAMPION OF DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES THAT OBAMA IS: a) UNQUALIFIED TO FIGHT FOR AND b) HAS MADE EVERY EFFORT TO DESTROY FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODkzNWI4YmIwN2NmMWIxYWRlNmE3MDM1OGJlMWZkYjI=
That’s a Relief [Larry Kudlow]
Whew. I’m glad McCain’s not running against Hillary. She gave a stemwinder. Sure, plenty of Democratic pap. I’ll read the transcript for details to be rebutted. Absolutely, she gave Obama a minimal endorsement. Her speech was about her, not him. And as I wrote this afternoon, only he can make the sale for his candidacy. No one else can do it for him. But the last quarter of her speech had a lot of optimism and confidence about America’s future. No hardships or obstacles can stop America. I like that a lot. Obama never does it; he’s a pessimist. Sometimes John McCain borders on cranky pessimism. But Hillary gave a very strong speech, an American leadership speech, very close to an American exceptionalism speech. Dems never do that. Reagan taught us all how powerful it can be. Hillary has come a long way.
HOLY CRAP!! FOX going to commercial – when they return they will explain why they believe Hillary could still be the VP pick for Obama. ???
Not good enough. She needs to be the UN-Obama. She needs to be THE CANDIDATE. He can darn well be HER VP. LOL
Here’s a good article about Hillary’s speech from HotAir.com ~
“In a way, this couldn’t work out better for Hillary. She gets credit for being a good soldier with a speech that supported Obama even if it didn’t exactly praise him. If Obama wins in November, Hillary will also get credit for her unifying speech, and she can still run in 2016 (at 69 years old). If Obama loses, no one can point to this speech and blame her for it — and she’s set to run in 2012 after a first John McCain term.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/27/wapo-hillary-inspired-her-delegates-to-wish-she-had-won/
Oh, JeffinNC………neither had enough delegates to clinch. Obama will always be selected not elected, despite HRC pop vote win, electoral college win, and swing state win (read, NC and other southern wins for Obama will NOT be replicated this fall).
The system was rigged. State after State HRC won the pop vote and doofus got more delegates.
We are not just angry and sad, we are realistic.
A majority of the American people will not vote for a man with 143 days of experience no matter what Pelosi and the other DNC bigwigs who stabbed Senator Clinton in the back do.
This is simple common sense. As the African-American delegate on CNN said last night: Would a major corporation hire a graduate straight out of the Harvard Business School to be its CEO? No.
I don’t care if they use wires to make Senator Obama fly above the stage before his speech…his lack of credentials will not fly come November…
Nothing that HRC says can turn Senator Obama into a qualified candidate…there is no magic koolaid that you can drink to instantly acquire wisdom and experience.
an interesting observation from someone on another site:
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT CAUGHT ON TO HILLARY DISHING (dissing) MICHELE SHE SAID PROUD WAY TO MANY TIMES IN THE START ON HER SPEECH AND I WATCH MICHELLE’S FACE SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HILLARY WAS REALLY SAYING… im PROUD mother im PROUD sneator im PROUD american And im PROUD to vote for obama’ …way too many PROUDS
850 jenniforhillary ………………ROFLMAO
i know you are very upset, and I’m not laughing at YOU. I just love your passion and fire… and I feel the same girl.. you are awesome !!
Coming up on FOX – STILL POSSIBLE FOR HRC TO BE VP-
will explain next
Fox has to be just spinning, they do have a roll call for the VP slot and of course anything can happen there, you know BHO won’t let that happen. Just Fox spin, I hope I am wrong.
MICK ~~~~ my dream
If Obama loses, no one can point to this speech and blame her for it — and she’s set to run in 2012 after a first John McCain term.”
#859 Hillgirl on 08.27.08 at 1:32 pm
NObama is very lucky Hillary try to rally her supporters to support him!!! Ted Kennedy NEVER openly endorse Jimmy Carter!!!!!!
That’s right you can only have citizenship in the US and be a natural born citizen.
Living Grace – Thanks for posting that. I have been asking this question for days, which is that if, per jbjd, the states are not allowed to get involved with political party affairs, why put the state on notice that we will make problems for the dnc in the future if they don’t behave themselves at the convention? didn’t make sense then, and doesn’t make sense now. in addition, it would seem that if the real threat is to the dnc, why wouldn’t they be cc’d on the prowl.
858 LivingGrace
well that maybe in Washington…. you can work to change the state laws<——. that was n my email
re#865 mac
HOLY CRAP!! FOX going to commercial – when they return they will explain why they believe Hillary could still be the VP pick for Obama. ???
> is FOX gonna explain that AFTER THE HEMMOROID COMMERCIAL?
NativeFlower
yeah ~ I heard the PROUD American loud and clear too~~~
I have to go durn it!
#857 bobram
yes it does! – My work is completed and I feel great.
Anyone else wanna jump in on the fun?
I just sent this to Martha at FOX:
Martha:
Hillary is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t! What does people want from her? It’s time for Obama to man-up and speak for himself. It’s not Hillary’s job to change his diaper.
according to fox:
Delegates at the Democratic National Convention are filling out their tally sheets Wednesday to be turned in quickly so the roll call for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton can begin promptly at 5 p.m. ET.
858 LivingGrace
__________________________________
This was my letter to the super D:
You must understand that everyone is work to change their State Laws of giving preferential treatment to a
candidate of the Democratic Party – because the Democratic Party’s
candidate was selected by the Party and not by the voters”
This is a letter to my State Atorney General of Texas:
We have spent the past two months immersed in data from the 2008 Democratic caucuses.
My conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American
public by systematically undermining the caucus process.
You must watch this:
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
I understand the state can not tell the DNC how to run its operation. BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO
SPEND TAX DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THEIR SHENANIGANS. I have heard rumors the DNC intends to circumvent
its usual customary “past practice” of holding an open roll call vote of delegates on the floor of
the convention, for everyone to see, in order to install one candidate as its nominee. Make it
clear that if the DNC imposes a nominee I will work to change the state laws that allow them to operate in our state.
And I ask that our state officials to pass this promise on to state party chairs, and Chairman
Dean.
You can not reward BAD behavior!!!!
And this can not be allowed in November…
#833 Jeff E
ven if you believe like Obama’s supporters do, that she won popular vote, you would have to at least concede that it was 50.5% to 49.5%. I won’t argue over a few thousand votes out of 36 MILLION cast.
The role of 800 or so Supers was help choose the most electable candidate, to ensure a Democratic victory.
And to take into account who has the momentum towards the end of the campaign, and factor in what the vote may have been if the Reverend Wright/Black Liberation Theology/William Ayers/Fisa etc., were made public before the early states voted.
And to take into account the distortion of his lead by the votes won in caucus states that will be red in Nov, regardless.
So again, SUPERS-DO YOUR JOB!!!
“vote by acclamation”
defined: THE FIX IS IN..
“neither had enough delegates to clinch. ”
Yeah, but aren’t you asking for Hillary to be selected using criteria which weren’t in the rules: popular vote, electoral college, swing states, electability?
I mean, suppose they gave her the nomination on the basis that she had more swing states. Would that really be a fair or legal way to decide? Wouldn’t it be kind of an arbitrary way to decide? Surely you have to go on the rules that everybody agreed to beforehand…
I agree neither of them had enough pledged delegates to clinch it, but then he got enough supers to put him over the top.
I just don’t think we should act as though the supers should decide to grant her the nomination, when we at the same time complain that they granted him the nomination. What’s the difference?
#878 pink puma
Fox is pretty much spinning this Hillary can still be VP choice for ONE reason, to get the message to OB that he made the WRONG choice AGAIN and he better think about it – People ARE NOT happy – But I am! Woohoo NO VP for Hillary – Hillary 08/12
someone also wrote that Hill started off her speech with “my friends” …..i’ll have to go back and watch again
teeheehee
ohhhh, that Hillary ….that woman is NOBODYs puppet
SandiPuma, if you’re around ….i’ve been wondering how your sneakers are working out???
Pffft. here’s a response I just got back from one so called representative of the people, delegate Wayne Kinney from Oregon. This in response to the simple prowl letter posted above about the special ballot access issue.
From Mr. Kinney “You are absolutely full of it. Please stop polluting my inbox with this stuff.”
Nice huh. If anyone would like to send him a message, email me and I’ll send you his email if you do not already have it. My name at geee male.
#886 JeffInNC
Forget “suppose” She DID win the popular vote, She IS more Electible and she DID win most of the swing states. How can that be Selecting someone? There are no “ifs” She is clearly the better candidate and the one elected by the PEOPLE!
Awesome. Good for you Bill clinton.
Now for the rest of us to stand up to the evil!!!
Like Anna was saying, I’m not sorry you stepped on our toes, Obama, but you are going to be.
We will renew our fervor and come after you and we WILL see your nomination and candidacy ANNULED.
You and your thugs will not get away with the bribery, the intimidation of innocent citizens, the coercion or your TREASON! Yes, I’m calling a spade a spade and I accuse you of treason and subversion and a terrorist attack on the people of the United States.
Tell the TRUTH, Obama. Do the RIGHT thing you are so fond of talking about.
Hillary, yes I was in it for you, but not for you alone. I am as FOR all the things you spoke of. But I am not for getting them underhandedly or by the means Obama has employed. To do so makes us no better than communists, or fascists, hitlers or Stalins. And we cannot take any chance of Obama becoming one of them. I’m sure there is enough dirt, enough chicanery that if we unite our voices we can make ourselves heard around the world and bring this despot DOWN!!!!
Hillary IS the rightful candidate for the Democratic Party, period.
If this stands as it is, it will be OUR legacy to the children and future generations.
Obama aide Jenny Backus said one nominating speech and two seconding speeches for Clinton will be offered followed by four speeches — one nominating and three seconding speeches — for Obama. The event will take about 30 minutes.
re#887
anything that gives the raspsberry to obama is good for me..
hillary is too good to be VP anyway..
vps are for mushheads like biden
Did anyone catch that Mayor Daly of Chicago is speaking today??That speaks volumes if you know anything about the Chicago “machine” Would not be a positive thing, except for those supporting Obama.
FROM jbjd
ACTION TO DEMAND A BONA FIDE ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE FLOOR OF THE CONVENTION, CONSISTENT WITH PAST PRACTICE
Candidates from major political parties, who are chosen at the party’s nominating conventions, are given preferential access onto state ballots. But in light of the evidence of irregularities in Democratic Party primaries and caucuses in several states, which improperly impinge upon the full effect of votes cast in all states; and in light of the DNC’s decision to scrap an open floor vote of delegates at the convention, we are giving notice that unless the DNC holds a bona fide roll call vote on the floor of the convention, consistent with past practice, we refuse to continue to extend such privileges to the candidates for office put forward from the Democratic Party.
Here is a sample letter. Fill in * with information for your state officials, and FAX. (In some states, the Board of Elections is a separate entity, whereas most state elections are overseen by the Secretary of State. The AG is the chief law enforcement officer of the state.) IF YOUR STATE OFFICIALS ARE IN DENVER, CALL… JUST MAKE SURE THEY HEAR FROM YOU NOW… Send copies to SD’s; party chairs; the DNC; union leaders; and anyone else you can think of. YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN EXPERT IN THIS STUFF TO VOICE YOUR PROTEST. YOU JUST NEED TO DEMAND A BONA FIDE FLOOR VOTE AT THE CONVENTION, CONSISTENT WITH PAST PRACTICE, AND RELATE THIS TO CHANGING STATE LAWS GIVING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO BALLOT ACCESS FOR THE CANDIDATE OF THE MAJOR POLITICAL PARTY.
____________________________________________________________________________________________
*(state official)
*
*
SUBJECT: Objections to Special Status Granted to the Democratic Party on * State Ballots
Dear *:
I am writing to you to protest that the state of * allows candidates affiliated with the Democratic Party preferential access to our state election ballots despite the Party’s failure to conduct fair and open primaries and caucuses; and refuses to conduct a bona fide floor vote at their nominating convention, consistent with past practice.
I understand that state officials cannot intervene in the internal operations of any political party. I want to make clear this is not what I am asking you to do. Rather, I am putting you on notice, if the DNC refuses to hold a bona fide floor vote this evening on the Presidential nomination, consistent with past practice, I will work diligently to revoke the special status our state laws grant to candidates from the Democratic Party to get on the ballot.
We spend taxpayer money for elections that are fair and honest, and support the will of the people. By nominating a candidate by fiat, the DNC has demonstrated its contempt for these principles. Party leaders decided to give the nomination to Barack Obama, when he failed to reach the requisite number of delegates needed to secure it. The super delegates have no “vote” until the convention. But it seems this time, the super delegates will not be voting at all. And we will not be allowed to “see” the votes of the pledged delegates.
Furthermore, there is evidence of widespread fraud and voting irregularities in several states, especially in the caucuses. Clinton voters in Texas were subjected to physical intimidation. In Oregon ‘dead’ people voted. In Los Angeles, California, gang members were hired to walk neighborhoods and threaten people to vote for Obama. In some southern states votes were sold for $20.00; and in some cases, votes were sold for drugs. These problems in Democratic primaries and caucuses throughout the country affected the true results of voting in all states, including ours. (See http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/meals_prizes/ )
I protest the spending of our state tax dollars to allow a handful of members of the Democratic National Committee to pick their own candidate in violation of even their own rules, and run that candidate on our state ballots. What other private club gets to pick a candidate for President to get onto the ballot in the general election? I assure you, I intend to work to amend our state laws so that from now on DNC will not be allowed access to our state ballots without the requisite fees and petitions that the other political parties such as the Green Party or the Libertarian Party must pay and supply, unless they return to holding fair elections based upon votes of citizens.
I want you to notify the DNC of my intention. I have tried to warn them directly, but the party is not hearing me.
Sincerely,
WE NEED DENVER CONTACTS AND THIS NEEDS TO GO OUT NOW.
#890 Mimi
I think it would be selecting because it’s outside the agreed process. Obama might have campaigned differently and in different places if it was clear that the caucus states wins weren’t going to count, or that the supers would all decide on the basis of swing states or popular vote. You can’t move the goalposts after the game is over, that’s all.
THINK ABOUT IT…
HILLARY CLINTON WAS AHEAD OF OBAMA IN THE ELECTORAL VOTE RIGHT UP UNTIL THE END!
Clinton had 311 and only needed 370 to win
If Obama or Pelosi stop the roll call vote before all states have a chance to vote, it seems it would be pretty transparent on national tv that they’re muting the voices of those who didn’t get to vote yet. And, even if they rigged it so by the time they stopped it Obama had reached the magic number, it still would look pretty bad to disallow all states to voice their votes. Ugh. Either way, this whole thing is so rigged.
Is it possible that Biden will not accept the nomination and defer it to Hillary?
I wonder what the media and Democrats would be saying if Hillary had been the candidate and then chose Biden instead of BO. She would have been crucified.
Everyone keeps saying why pick a running mate that received 9000 votes rather than the one with 18,000,000. This is just a small representation of what is wrong with the Democratic Party.
Having said that. I still would not have voted for BO any how.
Going RED.
so what did they just say on fox, the info from above came from the fox internet web site.
didn’t biden already accept?
does he get shoved under the bus too?
JeffInNC @@@@@@@@ are you aware of the extreme caucas fraud that happened. The caucus MESS is the only reason that Idiot came out with more delegates. Having said that, did you notice that everytime Hillary won a primary, superidiots came out to endorse NOBAMA !!!! THE WHOLE DAMN PROCEES WAS CORRUPT, AND STILL HILLATY GET 18 MILLION VOTES. SO PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE OPENING YOUR MOUTH..THANK YOU !!
Did you folks see this? It’s the most PUMAish column I’ve seen in the MSM. The writer is also a Fox analyst, of course. Hillary was like a living flame last night.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/she_done_him_right_126276.htm
889 NObamaDem
Call his bluff…. tell you are a member of 4,500,000 and they will see what we are talking about in november if this is not corrected !!!
#768? I won’t change my affiliation yet either same reason. We’ll have to change back anyway to get Hillary 2012-DEM for McCain!
#878 Pink Puma: LMAO (no pun intended)!
Nancy P believes that Obama can bring more people to the party than Hillary can and she wants more house and senate seats She thinks if Obama is at the top then everyone who is new will just vote down ticket she is wrong they really don’t care if Obama can win or not just want enough seats to be able to overide a veto
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR #61. CANNOT STAND MO. I WILL VOTE MCCAIN THIS FALL FOR SURE. THIS STUNT AT INVESCO FIELD IS JUST PLAIN STUPID. THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE LAUGHING AT HIM AND OUR VOTING SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO CLEAN THIS PARTY UP. I AM JUST SO SICK OF ALL THAT IS HAPPENING. I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO FOX RADIO ALL MORNING AND THERE IS NOTHING GOOD BEING TALKED ABOUT THIS SHAM. I AM SORRY I AM JUST SO MAD RIGHT NOW. I ALSO HEARD THAT THE HOTELS ARE NOW EMPTYING OUT AND SOME HAVE OVER 200 ROOMS NOW AVAILABLE. ON ANOTHER SUBJECT I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS RECEIVED THEIR POSTCARD FROM DENVER YET?
903 KENDALBLUE ~~~~WOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!
You rock!!! ((((((((((((KendalBlue))))))))))))))))
ohio Lady, who the heck is Martha?
are they trying to blame Hillary already for BOBOs inevitable defeat?
freaking hypocrites
poli analysts in the tank for BO are saying “mccain is using Hillary with those ads, if she really wants to speak up for women’s rights, she should come out tonite and condemn what he is doing, blah blah blah”
then, on the same network, the MOST SEXIST CABLE NEWS NETWORK OF THEM ALL (guess which one…) other anchors go on and on how it makes sense that Hillary can be blamed if the Almighty doesn’t win….
I ask you fine PUMAs…. does this make sense?
than again, does anything we’ve seen this election season make sense?
#903 KENDALBLUE: Election fraud is another thing entirely. I think election fraud should be punished.
However, if the supers gave Hillary the nomination on the basis of ‘electability’ rather than following the rules of the competition, that would also be fraud.
I think we should be arguing for Obama’s caucus fraud to be punished, and forget about arguing that Hillary should be selected based on her popular vote or swing state wins.
Jeff
Sorry about the typo’s . I’m just fired up (and fed up) today.
What is the official purpose of Super Delegates?
From Howard Dean- to be the “gown-ups” and help choose the most electable candidate.
So they would be following the DNC’s own rules and fulfilling their duty.
I know it’s slim, but I still hold out hope for Hillary. I never thought in my lifetime we would be witnessing such underhanded shameful behavior on the part of the DNC.
#896 JeffInNC
I believe the goalposts were already moved by OB when he decided to take his name of the ballot in MI and then hired some lawyers to block a re-vote in both those States because he knew he would lose. Just to show his disgusting display of false honesty later when he then asked them to be seated 1 week before the convention.
He started moving the goalposts from the start
THINK ABOUT IT…
The Republicans have only been swatting at him with his own history…
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S VETTING OF THIS “SELECTEE” WILL COME OUT THROUGH CANNONS STARTING NEXT WEEK – IF HE GETS THE NOMINATION!
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL GET WHAT IT SO JUSTLY DESERVES IF THEY FORCE THIS ILLEGITIMATE PROCESS!
This last week really wore me down. Today i’m so sick I feel like a buffalo sat on me, bellowing ‘NO BS, NOBO”
903 KENDALBLUE Oh, that’s good Kindred Spirit!! Get ‘er done!
Nobama…Not now…not later…and it is getting later and later…Never Not ever…l
Check out “The Convention Will Soon Be Finished” on The Denver Group’s web site. Heidi states how after this convention Bush will have shown more respect for the voting rights of Iraqi’s than the Dem’s have shown to their voters. It’s a great article (as usual):
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
#911 NativeFlower, Martha is on the Live Desk now on the FOX news. She was interviewing people who say that Hillary’s speech was just about herself and she didn’t say how wonderful Obama is.
has anyone heard from fox just how they thing hillary could still be the vp? i’ve been glued to tv, hushed husband up, and have not heard anything yet.
So, did we all send a message to Hillary through her Friends of hillary campaign website to let her know how well she did in her speech last night? If not, I suggest we do it now.
Email her: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
Fax: 703.962.8600
Call: 703.469.2008
Who has the Denver contact list?
Can you post it again please?
I thought I had it but I can’t find it.
So BO is going to emerge from below the floor of the stage to give his speech huh? I saw Ricky Martin do the same thing years ago…I would much rather watch Ricky Martin tomorrow then BO, he’s a Hillary supporter you know!
#776 I believe HRC is the best candidate-McCain is a an honorable compromise. His stance on judges from what I’ve heard is to not legislate from the bench-conservative but not radical. His positions are very reasonable from a centrist point of view. We would still be able to support our causes and be given an honest voice, unlike what we’ll get from the Obamination!
896 JeffInNC
Have you seen this ???
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http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
If you mean the hotels of the delegates it is here
http://www.nationaljournal.com/conventions/co_20080821_3019.php
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL HAVE NO CREDIBILITY WHEN THIS ELECTION IS OVER-IF THEY PULL THIS COUP OFF ON THE AMERICAN VOTERS!
QUESTION ~
Why isn’t the MSM playing any of the fraud documentary?? Has anyone forwarded a copy to FoxNews or CNN??
The role of superdelegates is to vote as they see most strategic for the party. They are not obligated to vote how their district or state voted (some supers aren’t elected officials anyway). Their role was designed to help ensure the party nominated the best candidate to win in the GE. So, if, per chance, the way the states voted per pledged delegates was perceived as having a result that might not be the best result, strategically, supers could sway the ultimate outcome. That’s my understanding of their role, but don’t quote me on it.
JeffinNC Please take a few moments to view this. The full truth will be available soon enough.
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
I am so proud of the PUMA’s in Denver. I so wish I could be there to assist. What are the plans for after Denver if any? Will there be a PUMA HQ at the RNC?? After this election we must revise how candidates are elected, not selected!!!
NOBAMA DEM – Nice idea.
NoBama#923 and Mimi 1020 – Shall we do it again – make us feel a lot lot more better – send the letter of Lisa’s #895 to all prior sd’s and media – come on rest of you – leave the trolls alone and do something constructive – this is a good exercise for us all.
BTW folks,
Bill O’reilly is set to begin airing an expose on BO beginning Sept 8th..he said it is full of info that no one has heard. he has been challenged on being too nice to BO. He explained that he has done that on purpose so that he will perceived as completely credible when he airs this expose…sounds like he found some good dirt!
930 mick
I dont think they have touched it !!!… where is our MEDIA….. we had to do their job….. and I have told them that almost everyday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEFF@@@@ point taken..but remember that the superidiots ARE NOT BOUND ! Their endorsement in the Primary was not certified. They can vote anyway they want to at the convention. Which brings us up to date _____ The CORRUPT DNC will not allow a REAL ROLL CALL because they are afraid Hillary might win. This race was always TO CLOSE TO CALL. Being a huge point that must be made. delegates being paid off and bought by BHO AND PELOSI. God FORBID they get embarrased by losing thier pre selected candidate. They should all be IN JAIL !!!! DAMN THOSE PEOPLE. HELL HAS A SPECIAL PLACE FOR THEM !!!
DID PROWL ABOVE AND SENT TO ALL SUPERS:
NOTICE TO ALL SUPERDELEGATES
If there is no bonafide open floor vote at the convention this will be the last time the Democratic Party will be guaranteed a slot on state ballots in PENNSYLVANIA.
OUR PAC will work to change our State Laws that give preferential treatment to a candidate of the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party’s candidate–Barack Obama–was selected by the Party and not by the voters.
Please pass the word to all Delegates and Superdelegates–we are serious!
Barbara xxxxx
PUMAPac Member
Montgomery Co, PA
#897 wontbackdown on 08.27.08 at 1:46 pm
It only requires 270 electoral college vote to win in general election.
#935 bobram
good – I’m in!
IN FACT, I AM GOING TO SENT IT TO ALL NEWS AGENCIES TOO
re#993
PUMAS will be welcomed at the RNC
kasota – This is really what it’s all about. We need to let the government know that the average voter is more intellectual today and has more access to the issues on a daily basis – democracy – we know what we want, but now they have to learn they are elected officials and this underhandedness just won’t work anymore!! I have also believed in PUMA and the power it will eventually have – this is just a beginning!
QUICK FEEL GOOD PROWL
Since lobby delegates provided an invaluable service to use that allowed us to contact the SD’s for free,
and since they normally would have taken that service down months ago but left it up because it continued to be so active, mostly being used by Clinton supporters,
and since the State Democracy Foundation, which is the umbrella foundation that provided the lobby delegates service is all about democracy, democratic action, upholding democratic principles,
HOW ABOUT WE E-MAIL THEM AND SAY “THANK YOU”!
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/frmContactUs.aspx
QUICK FEEL GOOD PROWL
Since lobby delegates provided an invaluable service to use that allowed us to contact the SD’s for free,
and since they normally would have taken that service down months ago but left it up because it continued to be so active, mostly being used by Clinton supporters,
and since the State Democracy Foundation, which is the umbrella foundation that provided the lobby delegates service is all about democracy, democratic action, upholding democratic principles,
HOW ABOUT WE E-MAIL THEM AND SAY “THANK YOU”!
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/frmContactUs.aspx
Did the guy on fox say that the sheets were collected yesterday??
#900 taylorgrob1
I think McCain should exploit that. A candidate that won 18 million votes and the Dems couldn’t manage to get her on the ticket as #1 or #2 . Maybe his ad could say, IF Obama can’t rise above “hurt feelings”how can he expect others to.
Of course, I personally never wanted Hillary on his ticket.
#940 Asian4Hillary… YOUR RIGHT!!! MY TYPO – I didn’t proof it!!! THANK YOU!!!
Blue Blue Gal
I have not been able to post. I sent the info to Murphy that I could not post.
OOOH – this Puma just SMELLED a JUICY PROWL from Post #895 Lisa – this is the motivation that I needed today – Hey to 1GYPSY , MSBinMd – Firebelle and others that called out to me – lets get this prowl going – only wish I had Wizard here as he was the one that could motivate a crowd a mile away THIS PROWL IS FOR YOU WIZARD – look down on us and make it work.
((((((((((((((918 1gypsy4mc)))))))))))))))))
Electoral fraud is illegal interference with the process of an election. Acts of fraud tend to involve affecting vote counts to bring about a desired election outcome, whether by increasing the vote share of the favored candidate, depressing the vote share of the rival candidates, or both……..Changing The Out Come Of The Voters Intent ( Michigan) And What They Will Do With The Delegate Ballots.
#722 Bobram AND #736 Goalucard4Hill
Don’t wait for Murphy to see your posts here, email Murphy and Mamapuma (email address are on the Action Page with link above) and you might try calling Murphy – her telephone # has been posted on previous threads). Let them know what you are hearing.
Prowlland said ~
#937 prowlland on 08.27.08 at 2:01 pm 930 mick
I dont think they have touched it !!!… where is our MEDIA….. we had to do their job….. and I have told them that almost everyday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The drive-by media is a joke! I hear that you all are “telling them” but has anybody actually sent them the tape? Send it to Bill O’Reilly, maybe?
#948 gina613: THAT’S PERFECT:
A candidate that won 18 million votes and the Dems couldn’t manage to get her on the ticket as #1 or #2 .
IF Obama can’t rise above “hurt feelings” how can he expect others to.
LIVING GRACE, ABOUT YOUR LETTER YOU RECEIVED FROM THE AG:
This information is misleading from the AG’s staffer is misleading. I cannot write a thesis on this now. But, for example, the candidate from the major political party, who is chosen at a “nominating convention,” is entitled to be on the general election ballot for POTUS. If the nomination is rigged, why do they retain this entitlement? Ralph Nader cannot get onto the state ballot in the GE without collecting thousands of signatures!
You cannot imagine how many state workers fail to understand their own laws.
jbjd
re#917 living..
yeah thats right we’ve buffaloed allright
I SENT IT TO THE NEWS AGENCIES … 3 TIMES…….
NO ROLL CALL? NO DICE!!! WE WILL CHANGE THE LAWS IN PENNSYLVANIA
#895 LISA – GREAT PROWL – have finished mine – wish it could have been a mass puma one but what can you do – hopefully those here will help out and maybe some lurkers here who are wondering what they can do will send emails as well – the more the better.
just watch after the convention and obama gets his nomination he’ll show up at PUMA HQ with flowers,a ring and a box of chocolates begging for PUMA love..
#929 wontbackdown on 08.27.08 at 1:58 pm
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Well that will be part of Pumas mission – to ensure that the general public out there who are not necessarily as in tune to what has happened this election as we are, is made fully aware of how this all went down. It’s got to change. We cannot be complacent any longer; we the people must be more involved in our governmental and election processes.
thank you GOALUCARD.
The prowl is very similar to what we have all already done, but this letter needs to go out to whoever you can find in Denver RIGHT NOW.
They are reporting on the news that there will be a full roll call, but they did a paper ballot roll call in private this morning, so obviously the DNC has this rigged for Obama and under their control right now.
They can’t get away with a big fake show of unity, and the press and DNC and everyone else needs to know that we will follow through and punish them if they do.
Poor Howard Wolfson – he’s on faux news and he’s still spouting the party line that we’re gonna come back to the party – not gonna happen
Also heard them say there will be a full roll call vote – isn’t this going to show that the superdelegates will have to vote to select the nominee? Does this mean brazilenut will keep her word? They evidently think we don’t know math………………………………..
946 Anna7000
It would also be nice for anyone who can to donate $5.00 to them. It has cost them for 3 extra months that they would usually not have to pay.
RE: all the complaints by the Obama people, and Dem party insiders that the PUMA women and men, and “Clinton Diehards” are endangering Obama’s election:
1) they shoud have thought of that before Obamanuts were trained to call anyone not supporting Obama, “you’re a racist” and in our face with that curse online and at caucuses in person. White kids screaming at Hillary caucus goers”You;re racist” wasn’t an accident, it was part of their training by Obama’s trainer straight out of Chicago – a planned intimidation.
The stupidest thing they and Pelosi did was to have Clayburn out on national TV telling the most revered president since FDR to shut up and calling him a racist!
2) The DNC said it didn’t need the older generation of Democratic voters, they had all these new college kid enrollees – well, we’ll see about that.
3) If the DNC is now crying and cursing about the trouble they are in garnering the votes of 18 million Hillary supporters , they should have thought of that before they fixed and cheated at the caucuses, made new rules to close Hillary out as nominee, cut her delegates from Florida in half, gave UNCOMMITTED Michigan delegates to Obama (UNCOMMITTED means uncommitted, not Obama votes) and took away some of the Michigan delegates who voted for Hillary and gave them to their “chosen one”, and after every one of Hillary’s state wins issued an announcement that she was quitting the race at the end of the week.
4) One would expect such crooks, liars, and cheats from the Republican Party,not the Democrats; but in 35 years of hard working for the Democratic Party, even when I didn’t like their candidate, I have never seen anything like what the Dems have done under Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, and Obama.
Did they think the American public and Hillary voters were that stupid not to know and see the outrageous robbery of Hillary Clinton?
So now, the DNC and the Obama Chicago thugs have split the party.
5) Hillary is the most qualified to be President and the world knows it. Obama hasn’t even finished a term as a Senator. He has NO experience governing anything. He has lied in too many areas to name. He has broken promises in too many areas to name. Just because he’s black is no reason to vote for him as President. His background and associations and nonvetting by the media which has tried to push him down our gullets, is absolutely no reason to vote for Obama.
6) The DNC has shown how low and corrupt it is and split the party.They stole the nomination from her by every trick ever known and new ones never heard of.
The DNC split the party. They and their leaders are responsible for the split.
Live with it.
I’ll be writing Hillary in for President on my November ballot. Nor am I voting for the Dem downline. Why would I vote in the same Super Delegates who have complies with Pelosi’s and Reid’s and Dean’s dirty dealings?
As a Dem precinct captain, DEC member of my county, I’ve resigned and I’m never going back to the Democratic party.
18 million voters are a wonderful group to start a new Democratic Populist Party, a viable third party with all of Hillary’s issues as our platform is desperately needed. And if Hillary’s closest advisors could and would convince her, Hillary Clinton should be our leader.
KelliGesq, Florida
Did I hear it right that there will be a full roll call now? They must have the assurance that BO has the numbers required or they would not go through with this.
Also, I’m really sick of hearing the Obot analysts making comments that Hillary did not tell the audience in her speech how great of a man BO is and how, after working with him these past couple of months, she believes he will be a great president. Now, who’s whining??
Here is something to be considered:
By virtual of you casting a vote for the Democratic Candidate, in the primary or elsewheres, you/we become automatic (temporary) voting members of the organization, whether or not we are card holding dues paying members of the organization.
Fact: The Democratic Party as a “private organization” cannot do as they wish without our approval. Because if the organization has the right to determine it’s own methods of selecting delegates and internal affairs, then as voting members we have a say of how those internal affairs are handled. Just like any other organization only members of the organization can vote on issues to do with that organization and by granting us the right to vote in primaries etc. they convey on us membership in that organization. In the simplest terms just like a stockholder at a stockholders meeting. So every affair that the Democratic Party does is under the approval of it’s stockholders…us the voters.
Do you know of any group or organization that allows you to vote on their affairs without being a member of that organization?
So the nomination is therefore according to their own rules by the majority (50+%) of it’s members….and who are it’s members….EVERYONE who cast a ballot vote.
HMMMMMMMMM!!!!
Post # 895 Lisa EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT letter – I somehow feel that with this last ditch effort this will work for us – please everyone jump into this letter writing above – we are a village.
Pumas If the Obama camp is putting Bill on a 5 second delay,Why should we feel that the role call is anything but legit.Its all for the Media and the voters that don’t know any better. HOW SAD
Where does one get the impetus to involve the political process in their common sense life. It is so illogical a practice I find myself in a continuous state of buzz and frustration when attempting to participate for the good of… hell, I don’t know what anymore.
After this election consider me part of the 50% of Americans that refuse to vote. I now know that they are truly the smartest of us all. If I get to the revolution on time I will wait with them for it to begin in earnest.
Delegates this and delegates that and democracy NOT has turned me into a shut in. I only want to grow old now and pass quickly before the world ends all at once.
And as I return to the simple life I once knew before this election year got under way I won’t allow the media and the DNC around to remind me of what a bitch life can be with toilet flush like them running the country.
McCain in ‘08. After you, I’m gone from the esoteric world of politics.
MURPHY AND MARYLAND AND DENVER
People are going to think this prearranged roll call is the real thing.
Can you get copies of this letter printed out and hand them out to delgates and officials and media?
LETTER IS AT POST #895
Bill Clinton comments ~
Listen to the woman say “Oh my God!” Lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdji_M9gscA
Ouch!
#651 mick – Appreciate your comments and the info you are providing, but please try to be a little more sensitive. This is not the day, or the forum, to try to sway PUMAS to vote for Senator McCain. We need to stay focused today. Again, welcome, and thank you for understanding.
966 Kelligesq……………NICE !! WELL SAID
Where is Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Kerry and others? When are they going to give their speech at the convention? Where is John Edwards? He should give a speech at the convention, he endorse NObama before votes in Virginia was counted to take off the spotlight from Hillary.
LETS VOTE THE BUMS OUT OF OFFICE! This neo-democratic party, do NOT represent me anymore!
It appears that some of the new members have a completely false view of this PUMA PAC. It is NOT made up of exclusive people. NEW MEMBERS have always been welcomed. Puma Pac takes pride in welcoming so many new members. What some find objectionable is when certain new members jump in and start criticizing people who have long standing here as hardworking, productive people. When you start criticizing TRISH you are way out of your league and should thinking of joining a group more accustomed to abusive language.
#946 Anna – Thank you – that is a nice gesture – I have just send them a thank you – have used lobbydelegates for the last 4 months now -
i wonder if the networks would pull the plug on bills speech if he began his speech with ” my fellow americans let me tell you about this chicago thug……”
who has a list of Denver phone and fax contacts?
did anyone ever find out what hotel Dean is at?
they just ask to send in an email tell them what Bill has to say tonight !!!
americas-talking@foxnews.com
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My letter to them !!!! ::::You guys just don’t get it yet…. Bill has NO obligation to Obama !!!!!!! because of voter fraud..
but you wont report on this for some reason…. we the people have had to do your work!!!!
Do you have the guts to report the TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
This is FANTASTIC!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1vo5mF0_WA&feature=related
#979 That would not be ‘fair and balanced’ …..as if any of this has been fair and balanced.
To #974 emme on 08.27.08 at 2:15 pm
I posted this earlier to Virginia~
#690 mick on 08.27.08 at 12:14 pm
Virginia.puma said ~
#661 virginia.puma on 08.27.08 at 12:02 pm MICK Even though that is good info, and you are most welcome here, and we know you will be voting for McCain as many of us here will, there is no campaigning for McCain allowed on the blog. FYI We are here for Hillary or anti Hobo I like your comments and I don’t want you to get banned You can say why you are voting for McCain over Hobo….but that’s it
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t see my comments as campaigning, I just wanted to post that link so others can become more informed before November. My bad.
Sometimes it’s hard to sift through all the misinformation that the MSM can bombard us with so I thought I would offer an unbiased resource. I appreciate you letting me know that it came across another way.
Please remember Murphy’s request- If it isn’t an official PROWL delivered to your email address coming straight from Murphy you cannot use the phrase PUMAPAC.
You CAN CALL YOURSELF A PUMA, OR SAY YOU ARE A PUMA MEMBER.
#957 lisa on 08.27.08 at 2:07 pm
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Yeah and in 2000 or 2004 (forget which), Ralph Nader was thrown off the ballot here in PA because they said he had invalid signatures on his petition to get onto the ballot. And that was brought about by the Dems, who sued the Nader campaign in twelve separate courts simultaneously. Read about the dirty deed here: http://www.paballotaccess.org/vca_kickoff_comments_murphy.html
Anything sound familiar in the way the Dem Party does election business lately?
I also wonder how many dead people BO will have on HIS state ballot petitions…
redraz9 – i agree. didn’t want to include that in my post as a suggestion since everyone’s feeling so tapped out, financially. i have donated to them for several months, including a couple of relatively large donations cause i used their fax service rather than e-mail. but, i couldn’t agree more. these folks are running on a shoestring budget and provided an invaluable service they could just as easily have shut down.
Just sent a prowl to the news media concerning the DNC and their violation of the First Amendment and the Will of People if they do not do a Roll Call along with the votes of the Delegates/Superdelegates on the floor. (short version)
thanks rodham in flag -
we’re so busy acting and are so filled with anger, seems important to stop and thank those along the way who’ve been on our side and provided much-needed support.
The only thing I got out of this election is that the only thing Bo can do well is – SPEND MONEY
When did they make that a qualification to be President?
Must read from National Review…go all the way to the end to see Pumas!
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjAxNDI1NWJhMDAyMDk2OTU0YjJiMTI1NzY2ZWRmM2U=
I sent prowl to the media yesterday, I did not identify myself as PUMA. The only way I would add PUMA to my prowl if the said prowl is from Murphy.
the DNC has many of the delegates terrorized that’s why the pro hillary people have not been cohesive or done any organized protest as a group on the convention floor..
most of those delegates are spineless gutless cowards just trying to save their own bacon..
Great 1Gypsy – could always count on you – so many of the others are in Denver that help out like Billiejo, Goandersen and others – I think we are too far and few between here to get the punch we normally do. UNFORTUNATELY. Its only about the roll call and fraud.
950 hillary2008
thanks for trying
sorry you are having so much trouble posting – together maybe we could have arranged a meet and greet between them ): ):
Go to Greta and vote in the poll. It’s several threads down on the page.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
#854 The caucuses were rigged-that’s not getting more delegates.
#956 wontbackdown
Can you imagine what Obama would do if his feelings were hurt by a foreign dictator. Is he going to do what’s is best for this country or what is self serving?He has shown himself incapable of rising above his own ego. Hillary Clinton would have handed him the election and he was unable to swallow his pride. He has proven to me to be a danger to this country.
#986 Nobama Dem
That is useful- hang on to that information we will be able to use it later as precedent when we start attacking the states.
I guess Rasmussin showed McCain at a slight advantage and Gallup showed BO at a slight advantage today. My best estimate is based on Gallop they are tied at 45% on the average, with several percentage points variation.
Within that variation, it is difficult to assess any trends, but there do appear to be some. Through June of this year on the Gallup Daily, McCain and Obama both averaged around 45%. I guess Clinton was blamed. After she suspended her campaign, the averages diverged to McCain 43% and Obama 46% until around the end of July when BO took his ego trip. Around that time, John McCains average started increasing at around 1% per week. It is hard to see on a daily basis. Obama’s average appears to have dropped around 1% approximately two weeks ago. So, Obama’s average is around 45% and McCains is also around 45% and rising at about 1% per week. (For trend plot reference link at Post #351)
What a night! I cried so hard as soon as I saw the introduction video. I stopped crying when I heard “KEEP GOING”. Yes, real world doesn’t believe tears, “KEEP GOING” is the key for me. Hillary is real gold, she shines whenever, wherever and whatever.
“NO WAY, NO HOW AND NOBAMA” is my new slogan!
this rigged fraudulent nomination process will be over this afternoon with obama elected..
what a farce..a coup by a corrupt cabal..
after today it will be up to us to expose obama for the crook,liar and fraud he is..
oh,and by the way..”GO MCCAIN”..
989 Anna7000 thanks rodham in flag -
we’re so busy acting and are so filled with anger, seems important to stop and thank those along the way who’ve been on our side and provided much-needed support.
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We all need to keep this in mind. While we are working hard to punish those who have made a mockery of our Party, we need to remember to help as well as say thank you to those who have supported Hillary and our fight for Democracy.
I just sent the following message in response to Fox’s question about Bill Clinton and what he needs to say tonight. americas-talking@foxnews.com
“Why are you even asking this question? Bill Clinton, nor Hillary Clinton, need to say anything other then what she already has in her speech last night. Her speech was very gracious, she did her job, she tried to unite this Party. Neither of them owe Barack Obama anything. HE’s the one that should be using his magical mystery powers to unite this Party, not Bill Clinton. So I say let Bill at him! Let him say what he really feels, that Obama cannot and never will be elected President of our great nation and that the Dem Party has made the BIGGEST mistake it ever could have by selecting Obama as our nominee.
By the way, instead of pondering what Bill Clinton should or should not say tonight, how about you report on the real news for once? Obama is where he is due to rampant voter intimidation and blatant fraud. THAT’S the real story here. Do your jobs!
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm“
I just heard that only about $2 million has decreased the Hillary Clinton debt.
And get this… of what’s left $10 million is owed Mark Penn!
What do you think of that?
Source: Russ Limbaugh at 1:28pm CST today.
re#100 head clunker
thanks for the poll analysis!!
it’s great to know mccain has the BIG MO going in his favor..
..we need more of that ..
#999 lisa on 08.27.08 at 2:29 pm
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Will do.
Hello PUMA’S
I was very moved and inspired by Hillary’s speech last night. But as I was trying to read between the lines of what she had to say, you can plainly see she is telling us and all her delegates don’t give up without a fight!
And I was also, like all of you very moved by that lady on CNN last night (Ann Price-mills)
I think she expressed EXACTLY how we all feel about Hillary. Great job for telling the media how she felt.
And I was wondering about the lawyer from Phila., Pa. and what is he going to do about BO trying to accept the nomination tommorrow.
Here is my diary for the convention—-
Day 1–
Blahhhhh!!! Blahhhh!! Blahhhh!!!
Day 2–
GREAT speech Hillary!!!
CNN is reporting that the crowd was moved to
tears. ( PUMA’S are dancing in the aisles)!!!
Day 3–
GREAT speech President Clinton
The crowd is moved once again to tears!!!
( PUMA’S express HOPE & EXCITEMENT!!!)
Day 4–
BO gives his speech…
BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Hillary 08/If not Mccain 08
High Five PAWS
PUMA’S
#1004 NObamaDem – What do I think Bill should say tonite? “You’re making a BIG mistake.”
Hillary ‘08
It’s not just Bill who is still upset. Although Sen. Menendez says what the party wants and needs him to say, you can sense some anger:
http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1219818366306110.xml&coll=3
Word in Denver that Obama is planning an elaborate set on Invesco field with what look like Greek columns has the McCain camp chirping that democrats are building “The One” his own “Barack-Olis” as in “Acropolis.” – http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
BWAAAAHAAAAA! I llve that comment. Barackolis!
re#1011
obama is messing with the GODS up there on mt olympus..he better wtach out or one of them jealous vindictive gods just might get pissed off and do a switcheroo on O’s FATE..hehe
Texasdarlin reported at 2:04pm that the roll call will be cut off and voting will be done in private.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/peoples-convention-manifesto/#comment-9617
Hillary’s speech last night reinforced my feeling that I want Hillary in 2012.
GO HILLARY!!!!
Barackcoli.
#1011 NObamaDem
ROFL Barakolis!!
PUMAS PLEASE BE CAREFUL
In reading through this thread I see two things that concern me.
1. Rumor, speculation and hearsay passing for truth. Someone will make a suggestion or speculation, not based in fact, and then all of a sudden everyone is talking about it like it’s true. In fact, many of the things you are getting bothered by are not true. Bill will not be on a five second delay. This is from a satirical article that someone posted without realizing it was satire. There are a lot of suppositions like this that need to stop before we all end up looking like morons. If you see something that bothers you, look it up to see if it’s true. As shamefully as the MSM has acted in this campaign there’s still a good chance that someone, at least FOX, has reported on it if it’s true. Same goes with all these “secret ballot” rumors. These are just rumors, and the DNC would never fucking do something that stupid at this stage of the game.
2. McCain support. This is a problem. PUMA PAC does not officially support McCain. Despite Murphy’s past financial support of McCain (which she has explained) I don’t think it has ever been our intention to support him through this PAC. I for one do not support McCain in any way, and if that’s the direction we’re going them I’m out of here. PUMA PAC’s principles are clear, and those principles are the reason I’m here. I’m not here to support McCain.
No no- not a Greek temple…
He’s standing in front of a fake Lincoln Memorial on the anniversary of the “I Have a Dream” speech. He doesn’t just want you to think he’s a leader, he wants you to think he’s KING!!!!
What’s green and has a crown?
Barackcoli.
1013…alas, that is sad news.
Here is a great blog entry/article on feminists and PUMA and the smears against PUMAs!
http://thecommonills.blogspot.com/2008/08/eleanors-smear.html
Re: # 895 jbjd & lisa: Prowl
Prowl is completed to Mississippi AG & Sec. of State
and to the following MS Democrats:
Nbrowning@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
scuevas@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
ddawkins@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bdearing@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
hfrazier@mail.state.ms.us,
Tgollott@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
Jgordon@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
aharden@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bharvey@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
jhorhn@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
sjackson@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
djordan@mail.senate.state.ms.us,,
gwilliamson@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
jwalls@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bturner@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
gtollison@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
wsimmons@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
lposey@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
nmettetal@mail.senate.state.ms.us
re#1016
hmm maybe i will start selling some household obama divinity statues on ebay..hehe
And we complain about how elections are held in 3rd world countries. Today will be powerful ammunition to be used against the USA.
I can not believe that the BO camp and the DNC can not see how foolish they look.
Just for laughs:
Isn’t Pelosi third in line for President?
Maybe she’s hoping Obama will be thrown out because of duel citizenship, she can force Biden to decline the job using a Vulcan Mind Meld, and voila! Madame President Pelosi.
its not not greek temple.. its geek temple..
obama is a divine geek god..
QUESTION:
(1)Did anyone else hear this this morning on FOX? They said that they would have breaking news at 5pm, and did not give any hints.
(2)Any word on the Berg legal filings?
First NPR stated that only New York and Illinois would be included in the roll call.
Then a short time ago they updated and said that there will be a full roll call, which will proceed only until Obama was “over the top.”
Anyone else hear this?
What’s green (inexperienced) wears a crown (like a king) and has bad taste (in politics)?
Barackcoli.
This is just to hilarious that I am ROFL wetting myself.
FINALLY 10 REASONS GIVEN TO VOTE FOR OBAMA AFTER IVE ASKED SUPPORTERS FOR THE LAST 6 MONTHS—-ROFL–ZZZZZZZ
1-he is a new face on the US national political scene-maybe not as indebted to the Washington power structure as other candidates.
2-he is not a Clinton or a Bush.
3-must be some kind of a decent organizer/administrator-the organization and the money raised seems to be phenomenal.
4-is not part of the white/male/good old boys network-may have new and workable approach to problems that have been ignored by the power elite for decades
5-is of mixed ethnic descent-and therefore is representative of the reality that a large and growing number of Americans live with
6-he seems to be trying to run a “clean” campaign-what a concept!
7-is smart enough NOT to commit to policies that might not be apporpriate solutions to the problems being discussed, once he is in power and briefed and sees the full scope of those problems
8-he seems to understand the nature and application of Universal energy and how great things may be accomplished by aligning the attention and effort of many people onto the achievement of our national goals
9-Joe Biden is a MUCH better VP candidate than Dick Cheney
10-it seems that Sen. Obama has led an unusual life-but NOT one of power,elitism,wealth and privilegde-ten reason why I20support Obama
FINALLY 10 REASONS TO VOTE FOR OBAMA—ROFL
obama has so many skeletons in his closet hes hired bob vila to turn it into a wherehouse..
mcr
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR THE LIST!
WE STILL HAVE 2 HOURS BEFORE THIS SHAM ROLL CALL.
PLEASE SEND THE LETTER AT #895 TO THIS LIST:
Nbrowning@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
scuevas@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
ddawkins@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bdearing@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
hfrazier@mail.state.ms.us,
Tgollott@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
Jgordon@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
aharden@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bharvey@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
jhorhn@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
sjackson@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
djordan@mail.senate.state.ms.us,,
gwilliamson@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
jwalls@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bturner@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
gtollison@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
wsimmons@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
lposey@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
nmettetal@mail.senate.state.ms.us
951 Goalucard4Hill
I’m in “for WIZARD” AND , in honor of your return!!
Did this yesterday to some but I’ll find some more!!
OMG fox just said that the delegates could vote Hillary in as President tonight wow
I sent the letter to the SDs and to ALL the major network news re: No Floor Vote, No Dice.
I thought that was an excellent prowl. I changed the state to Texas.
Then happily, as I was finishing that up; I got an email at my yahoo mail from Boyd Ritchie who is the Chair of the Democratic Party for Texas.. so I returned that email to him with that same letter. Now I have one from Dr. Dean, sending him the same reply. Might at least use their emails to respond with something active.
NOBAMA, NO WAY, NO HOW, WE WILL REMEMBER IN DECEMBER!!!!
NO NO NO NO VP
Apparently there is a petition????? per FOX
Oh Lord help us!
anyone hearing FOX ???? Hillary delegates WANT HER FOR VP…PETITION GATHERED ALREADY. Biden could be passed over…….
#1017 ZACH
I AM SURE NO ONE HERE IS LITTERLY GOING TO SUPPORT McCain (DONATIONS), we have the choice of the O (NOT, never) or Barr, Nader or McCain…………we can to stay home or pick our poison. Our vote to cast for who we chose if it can not be Hillary!
1017 Zach
I don’t think PUMApac as a pac can support any candidate.
PUMAs as individuals will be making different decisions.
Such as reregistering as Independents. I always ask Mass PUMAs to please remain Dem at least thru Sept so they can vote in the Dem primary and defeat Kerry, but in fact “unenrolled” voters here in Mass can vote in either primary and then unenroll again.
I, for one, will be voting McCain as a protest vote, but am remaining a Dem, because I want to reform the party.
So I don’t think you can even put all of us McCain voters in the same boat.
You can argue against voting for McCain (there are other options) just as I will be arguing very strongly not to vote Republican downticket.
You know they say that organizing Dems is like herding cats…and, well, we are PUMAs!
#1017 zach on 08.27.08 at 2:47 pm
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Thank you Zach. Could not agree more. The rumoring is only taking us all off focus and we all know that everything the media spins is not true. Let’s just stick to our game plan Pumas. That game plan is NO Obama, period. We’re not campaigning for McCain or any other candidate, we all own our individual votes, our votes are our biggest weapon, and we all will take whatever actions we feel will accomplish our main goal – NO Obama in November.
What’s green, wears a crown, and has taste that’ll make you gag?
Barackcoli.
Lisa,
Will do…..
GO HILLARY AND FLLLLKKK the VP position talk
zach – very much appreciate your point about being discerning consumers of “information”. thanks.
zach – very much appreciate your point about being discerning consumers of “information”. thanks.
Just now watching CSPAN – Hillary is giving a speech to EMILYS LIST and just thanked Pelosi for everything that she has done for us – GAG ME GAG ME GAG ME
Hillary’s on c-span now. Emily’s List reception
If that Fox rumor is true about forcing Hillary as the VP, we may be in for a wild ride tonight!!!
Fox is explaining the vote now.
This from The Denver Post via Politico.com ~
“Delegates to the Democratic National Convention are casting ballots for the party’s presidential nominee at their hotels this morning.
The vote, negotiated by the campaigns for presumptive nominee Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, is expected to speed proceedings from the floor of the Pepsi Center tonight, when totals will be read from the floor as part of a roll call vote.
But it is also leaving many delegates perplexed.
Some delegates were confused because Sen. Clinton was not expected to release her delegates until the afternoon.”
“It doesn’t make any sense to me,” said Mary Sullivan, a Clinton delegate from Albany, N.Y. “I’m gonna vote for Hillary. I’m a Clinton delegate and she hasn’t released me yet.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12885.html
#1014 Hillmania on 08.27.08 at 2:45 pm
Hillary’s speech last night reinforced my feeling that I want Hillary in 2012.
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Hillary’s speech last night reinforced my feeling that I want Hillary in 2008!!!!
so what is the verdict? Did Hillary’s speech help Obama? Is he going up in the polls?
Is there going to be a roll call vote?
Margaret Carlson feels PUMAs are “starring on cable” (not happy, not one little bit)
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/carlsonpuma-starring-on-cable-the-fiends/
jbjd is in email contact with Heidi Li right now. They are trying to come up with another plan of action before this farce roll call actually is carried out:
Heidi,
Ricki Lieberman suggested I should direct these questions to you.
Do these ‘caucuses’ going on now, at which sessions delegates are required to express their preference for the candidates, under duress; and which preferences will then be disclosed on the floor of the convention, violate the prohibition in the Call to the Convention against voting either by “Secret Ballot” or by “Proxy”?
VIII
F. Voting:
1. Secret Ballot: No secret ballots shall be permitted at any stage of the Convention or its
committee proceedings.
2. Proxy Voting: Neither delegate nor alternate delegate votes may be cast by proxy.
Also, for the last couple of days, we have been contacting people to demand a bona fide roll call vote, consistent with past practice. See attached letter.
jbjd
Dear jbjd,
Let me think about this, and if I have something intelligent to say, I will get back to asap.
Heidi
Fox said she is getting ready to release her delegates.. I know it doesnt matter but I wish she wouldnt
They are showing under ticker that Bill will be speaking at 9PM EST – as well as Richardson – she has on a pale green pantsuit – just mentioned about 18millioncracks – but doesn’t sound like she is saying its gonna happen right now though…..
GOALUCARD: How wonderful to see you again. I wonder, does Trish know that you have returned?
Lisa, thanks for motivating Goalucard.
Now I will have to go back to see what the prowl is so I can participate.
#1046 Zee
If that Fox rumor is true about forcing Hillary as the VP, we may be in for a wild ride tonight!!!
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I think all H-!! is going to break loose!
Just in:
Hillary right now is at the convention in Denver lunching with her delegates telling them to “vote their conscience?”
Hmmmm.
I absolutely do NOT want Hillary as VP but they were idiots to pass her over. I think anybody with an ounce of sense saw that last night. I’m glad they didn’t offer it to her because it makes my job easier – NO BO!
Saying that we need Barrack Obama and Joe Biden in the White House on January 1, 2009. IN fact she is saying more about them now than last night – strange.
Has this speech been written for her as well??
Saying that with Michelle Obama in the White House – we will be having someone to answer that phone at 3AM
FOX – UGGHHHH!
Hillary meets with her delegates soon. The votes were taken last night? Will be tabulated and Nancy Pelosi will announce. Souns as though there will be a State by State announcement but not a voice vote but on a screen? Don’t know what to believe. Have to wait I guess
Aaron Paz (delegate) has 600 signatures for HRC as VP. This is all too much -
MIRACLE…i’m praying for a miracle….
Fox reporting that role call begins at 3pm denver time. Says that Clinton will stop it with NY. She would need 50% to boot Biden for VP. ? if some written delegate vote took place already.
Thanks PUMAS.
I have a political sign in my front yard for a local elections Nov 4 and a woman who is opposing this candidate run rang my bell wondering why I was supporting him. Eventually I asked her who she was supporting and she said Obama. I asked her to be the first Obama supporter to actually tell me why. Quote”He is offering hope to the nation when so many people are losing their homes…blah blah. I gave her a short education on her candidate and told her I couldn’t vote for someone with such impared judgement to make her support Obama.
I was extremely disappointed that not everyone on Emily’s List supported Hillary.
jody in florida
If that Fox rumor is true about forcing Hillary as the VP, we may be in for a wild ride tonight….
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what do you mean???
Denver contact info:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/conventions/co_20080821_3019.php
Contact info for media, AG’s and SOS’s in your state, plus FORM letters. This is the prowl we have worked on the past two days. Just change your state.
My vote goes to Hillary for President, nothing else.
My hunch is that they are bargaining with us. They did their paper ballot and realize that Hillary would win the nomination, so they are trying to find a way to appease us so we won’t go after them for an unfair vote.
VP my a@@… she is entitled to the top spot.
Hillary is releasing her delegates – the fix is still in -
#1031 lisa
I have already done this. Thanks.
#1064 rlp33
this was Zee’s post #1046
What’s happening with Murphy and crew? I haven’t seen anything from them on the blog? Give us a clue
I think Bill Clinton will set the tone for tonight – unless there is a revolution prior.
Hope we soon hear from our Denver group to get a sense of what is going on. Even though I watch FOX, I think they tend to stir the pot to see what they can get going.
must leave–this is making me ill. ONLY thing worse than Bo is Bo/Hill….
I would never be able to vote for her again….PLEASE Hillary don’t go there!!!
Let him and the DNC die on their own…you will live again in 2012!!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT AND NO BO!!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT AND NO BO!!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT AND NO BO!!
SHE WON IT ANYWAY, so just STEP OFF AND LET HER HAVE IT!!!
#1065 Ladyhawkke Sorry I forgot to give you the link to all the info
http://pumalatinos.com/2008/08/25/urgent-letter-campaign.aspx?results=1#SurveyResultsChart
Mcr- I know you have and THANK YOU
I am imploring everyone to join us and do it too!
Send post #895 to the red list of emails that mcr posted!
What happen to North Carolina? NObama said he’ll paint it blue, how come it is RED as it gets?
The problem with NObama he shoot off his mouth one too many without checking if his brain are loaded! I’m waiting for Southern part of USA to all turn blue, it seems NObama cannot deliver it!
I can’t believe Obama is going to give his speech on a set resembling a Greek Temple.
Read this for a laugh:
Grecian Temple Redux
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/27/grecian-temple-redux/
There is so much material from the DNC that the republicans can now use. Just the fact that the DNC was afraid to hold a role call because they were afraid their “selected not elected” candidate would not win is enough to keep the news cycles going for awhile.
Jeeeze – what countries could we compare this too?
Personally, I will have a hard time voting for McCain but I will to keep Obama out.
I have also heard others say they will vote down Republican as well as vote for McCain. I think we need to support the down Dems so when McCain wins he won’t have the entire run of Congress. We need checks and balances. The Dems will keep McCain in check.
Don’t think they’ll be a revolution, or even a small floor squabble. Think the dye is cast and it’s unfolding as has been ever-so-carefully choreographed. Wish it would be a wild night, but don’t think that’s in the cards. We’ve worked and hoped for months, then days, then hours, and now we’re down to minutes. It’s unfolding everyone. Sorry, but just don’t think there’s any space or chance for any big save here. Too late. Gone too far. End of round 1 in my view. Don’t mean to be a wet blanket, just trying to stay real. Hope I’m proved wrong. I’d gladly have egg on my face.
For me I started out supporting Senator Clinton. That was my primary goal, To get Her elected,but the more I learned about Obama, the more I realized that I did not want whoever is pulling his strings and giving him the money to buy out our democracy.
When i wake in the morning my thoughts are first and foremost about God,family and then country. I cannot support a man that doesn’t believe in the principles that I believe in,so for me it is easy.
It is country before Party,it is Honor before dishonor. This man refused the bible,refused his own race in favor of terrorists,he has shaken the very foundation on which our country was founded”THE RIGHT OF OUR GOVERNMENT,OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE,BY THE PEOPLE”
SOME OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FORGET THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE WE CHOSE THEM,THEY HAVE SOLD THIER RIGHT TO GOVERN US BY ALIGNING THEMSELVES WITH A LYING,CHEATING WRETCH OF A MAN.
SENTOR CLINTON I CANNOT ,I WILL NOT SUPPORT HYPOCRISY.I WIIL NOT VOTE FOR BARAKH HUSSEIN OBAMA,NO HOW NOWAY.NEVER
I WILL CONTIUE TO FIGHT FOR MY FAMILY,MY GOD AND MY COUNTRY,IN HOPES THAT TYRANNY WILL BE ABOLISHED.
I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR YOU SENATOR CLINTON,BUT ITS NOT ABOUT PLATFORM IT IS ABOUT TRUTH AND RIGHT AND JUSTICE FOR ALL VOTERS IN OUR GREAT UBITED STATES OF AMERICA.
GODSPEED HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.
GO PUMAS…….
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LeA2B0o7UQ4
Welcome Home Dracula, so glad to see you in the house.
I think Murphy and crew are busy right now in Denver, I don’t expect them to be here today. This is the climax of the convention……ROLL CALL
I object to calling Hillary delegates names. I was a delegate to several conventions leading up to the Iowa State Convention that I ultimately walked out on because of the disgusting behavior, controlling, underhanded tactics of the BO campaign that I also witnessed at the Iowa Caucus. Put the blame where it needs to be and that’s with OB and his crowd.
Apparently this was taped at Emilys List last night before Hillarys speech – Pelosi is singing praises of such a wonderful campaign and wonderful person that Hillary Rodham Clinton is —- why am I watching this??
Where can we watch the roll call at 3PM – CSPAN does not mention it??? At Fox??? By the way whenever Pelosi sings praises to BO – audience is quiet – Hillarys name brought up – cheers – what does that tell Madame Speaker
All this talk that there was a hotel vote? It has to be BS.
My HRC delegate there has texted me this morning in response to my specific question, ‘was there a hotel vote taken?’ and she texted back ‘no. the vote will be done on the floor during roll call.’
believe me, this delegate would know!
they’re all in a meeting with hillary right now. and due on the floor at 3:00 denver time.
Hey Not Your Sweetie, I love your blog!!
This picture of Obama is great! ROFL
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/denver-bits/
DELEGATES VOTING IN HOTELS – NO CHANCE FOR A “UNITY” SWITCH FOR THE CLINTON DELEGATES
http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_10315674
Sorry, PUMAs, if this is old news. I haven’t been able to get online since early this morning. I was looking for the Denver Post news because
HILLSTHEONE
told me that she and other PUMAs have been interviewed by the Denver Post and were hoping for coverage.
I’ll try to catch up now . . .
that delegate just said they voted at breakfast
#1080 Anna7000,
You’re indulging yourself in a little reverse psychology.
Just might work, my friend!
From Ricki Lieberman of EW
Ricki
I have yet to figure out why sticking to one’s beliefs and values should be characterized as “die-hard”…
1. DELEGATE HAPPENINGS
• NEW YORK: CHARLES G. STURCKEN, a campaign worker writes, “To my greatest shock and dismay I have learned that Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney will not be voting for Hillary on the first ballot! She should be ashamed that she is voting contrary to the will of her Democratic constituents. The height of her folly is that she is on a book tour peddling her book, “Rumors of Our Progress”, about the struggle of women over the past decades !! For shame that she would end up a turncoat ! Shame Shame Shame! I urge all fellow New Yorkers to call her campaign office at 212 – 987 – 5516. OR email her at info@carolynmaloney.com.
• CALIFORNIA: Chris Stampolis DNC member from Calif.” I signed the official Hillary nomination petition tonite at the Arena. Lots of high profile signers. I expect a roll-call.”
• KENTUCKY: Olivia Anne Fuchs reporting that “Team Hillary Kentucky & Hillary’s Delegates in Denver stand tall for our girl!”
• TEXAS: John Grothues: This evening the organizers were making sure that people could sign petitions to nominate Hillary and Obama and for vp Biden. I saw no one discouraging anyone from signing the petition of his or her choice. In fact Obama people were passing the petition to Hillary people and vice versa. It seriously looks like we will get the chance to vote for Hillary.
• ALABAMA: Sarah writes: “Due to the terrible way that she was treated in this election, by the press, Obama people, NOT counting Fla. and Michigan votes and etc., I myself feel as Bill Clinton, “This is like a fairytale”!! No matter how this turns out, watch out, HILLARY WILL come back even stronger than ever, BECAUSE NOW SHE KNOWS WHO HER SUPPORTERS ARE”.
• OHIO: Delegates report consensus that Clinton can not be asked to solve Obama’s problem. They say it is up to Obama to make the case for his economic policies and respond to persistent questions about his experience, values, toughness and vision, that no speech from Clinton or anyone else can do for Obama what he most needs to do for himself and has failed miserably, to date.
The republicans are leaving Denver tomorrow – following Bill’s lead – he is not attending the greek or roman circus tomorrow – I think that is very interesting -
ON FOX NOW: I think we’ve been “bamboozled”
Hillary Clinton’s blog appears open for convention discussion. I posted one this morning that is up there now.
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/
Ordinarily I’m more inclined to lurk than write but with so many PUMAs speaking out in Denver, the events of this week compel me to join them from a distance and go on record to say something.
Taking a long range perspective, there are two things that I believe with absolute certainty will happen.
1) Obama’s past actions will destroy his political future.
2) Hillary Clinton will be the first woman president of this country.
With regard to the first point, it’s important to remember that Obama and his inner circle are a nest of sociopaths. I use that term precisely and not merely to vent. A sociopath isn’t an axe murderer. A sociopath is a person who has no conscience and is therefore capable of any outrageous action that furthers his own selfish agenda.
The great thing about sociopaths is that they are deeply stupid about the issues that motivate the rest of us conscience-bound folks. Because they are so disconnected, they never see that their actions, sooner or later, will have consequences. They leave a trail of bodies (figurative or otherwise) in their wake and those bodies always rise.
Once the Republican attack machine kicks into gear, I expect we’ll hear quite a bit about the Berg lawsuit and the eligibility question. Michele’s whitey tapes ought to be coming out any day now. Larry Sinclair’s case gains credibility since Joe Biden’s son was the attorney general in Delaware who arranged for his arrest on spurious charges. Obama’s deeper connections to William Ayres are being investigated this week and that’s only half of the baggage Obama has managed to accumulate. While his political accomplishments have been few, his stack of dirty laundry is quite impressive.
Sociopathic leaders always overreach themselves because they never seem to recognize when an outraged citizenry has had enough. I believe Obama’s Invesco Ascension will put him over the top and the colossal public humiliation that follows won’t be a pretty sight. There’s plenty of historic precedent for the scenario I just depicted. Take heart fellow PUMAs. This will happen.
With regard to the second point, let me contrast Hillary’s character to Obama’s. She is not a sociopath. She has a conscience which binds her to the rest of us. More than that, we have all learned through this grueling campaign season what else she is. Hillary Clinton is a fighter. She does not quit. EVER.
Judging by the tone of the posts I’ve been reading, I know many of you feel a sense of urgency. That Hillary’s chance is now or never. I don’t think that’s true. It’s only over when she says it’s over and her last words to us were “keep on running.” I believe she will keep on running until she reaches the White House. And next time…unlike the last time…she’ll be pushing against an open door.
Kelly Jacob Mississippi Delegate just called in to FOX and said hey have already voted!
Chaos, confusion, DUH!
Kelly Jacobs from Mississip said she voted this morning
8 out of 14 HRC delegates voted for her and BO got 31 votes. She was one of the 600+ who signed petiytion for Roll call
Thank you LILIBET – I am glad that I motivated you from my being motivated by Post #894 Lisa – I have personally been in charge of two political campaigns in my time and know what is important and what is not – this was important
Thank you STARDUST – I am not home – I made a quick appearance because I saw something that was important enough not to just lurk on – apparently I had no influcence on the majority.
hey maxgrader – haven’t seen you in a while. was wondering what the status was of your vp prediction list that you were posting a few days ago? have you made money or lost money?
#1095 LadyLiberty
Is Larry Sinclair from DE?
#1095 LadyLiberty
Is Larry Sinclair from DE?
Has anyone heard anymore about Berg’s lawsuit?
WE WILL REMEMBER DENVER IN NOVEMBER!!!
headclunker – thanks. i’m going to head over there right now (though my posts never got posted during the primaries).
Don’t know if anyone has seen this picture:
It’s William Ayers. Now we know why Obama has an aversion to the Flag and the Pledge of Allegence – unless he needs salute it to get a vote.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/27/ayers-was-not-just-a-neighbor/
#1072 middle age female -
I heard from hillstheone by cell phone today. She said everything is very exciting and going fine. Yesterday she said that two out of three at PUMA HQ are not members – they are delegates and folks from other Hillary supporter groups.
hillstheone can’t get a sense of what kind of coverage there is and would love to see some links – mcr? anyone? if you get a change, put her name in the message with some links so that when she gets a chance to check she’ll see. She says Murphy and crew miss us and the blog!
Also, everyone,
HILLARY ‘08
HILLARY ‘08
HILLARY ‘08
I think Bill Clinton needs to be careful what he says tonight so as not to hurt Hillary’s chances in 2012. If you recall, during the campaign, he put his foot in his mouth a lot and I called the campaign office about it and told them they needed to stifle him. In the beginning, while on the trail, Pres. Clinton went on and on about the Clinton years. I felt strongly that he should be talking about what Hillary would do for the country and we didn’t want to hear about his years, this was her turn. The person who answered told me that they had spoken to him but it didn’t help, he just did what he wanted. Anyway, I want him to do as Hillary did, very minimal support of Obambi, no anger, not tonight. Hillary seemed to be doing a lot of damage control during the campaign. Hillary will get her turn again.
Also, I’m conflicted about McCain picking a woman for VP. That would mean when McCain’s turn was up, she would be running against Hillary. So now we have 2 women, one who was VP and the other a senator. McCain’s VP would claim more experience.
And now Hillary has released her delegates. I’m disgusted with all of the states supporting Obama, they must want a loser. I hope he loses big time in November.
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2008/08/26/tennessee-clinton-delegate-may-be-legally-obligated-to-stay-with-hillary/
Tennessee Clinton Delegates May Be Legally Obligated To Stay With Hillary
By Kleinheider
Posted on August 26, 2008 at 10:47 am
Tom Humphrey reports:
Bill Owen, a DNC committee member and former state senator from Knoxville, said Tennessee law requires that a person designated as a pledged delegate follow through by voting for his or her candidate on the first ballot.
But Bruce Shine, a Kingsport, Tenn., attorney who has been nominated for a seat on the Tennessee Supreme Court, said he does not believe the Tennessee law could be enforced against delegates in Colorado. Nonetheless, Shine said, he feels “duty bound and honor bound” to vote for Clinton because he was chosen as one of her pledged delegates.
“You could say that Tennessee state law doesn’t apply in Colorado, but my honor does,” Shine said.
1095 LadyLiberty on 08.27.08 at 3:22 pm
Very nicely put. Thanks for coming on to voice.
What you say is true…except all we see is everthing being shoved under the rug….and yes…we are very weary.
I just called Carl Maloney’s office and the receptionist told me that she will be voting for Hillary on the first roll call!
DRAC!
I have missed you. What did I miss? Still scrolling . . .
I couldn’t agree with you more Ladyliberty. I think there is still more to come regarding BO. I believe all of her supporters will cheer her all the way to the White House.
Sorry meant Post #895 LISA – the IMPORTANT letter.
Didn’t catch the guy’s name on Fox that Shepard Smith was just now interviewing, but he said that the Pumas are taking too much oxygen out of the convention and he hopes we will just “give it up.”
Fox News just reported tht Hillary released her delegates is it true?
Hey Anna.
That VP thing was for fun. I don’t gamble.
To remind though, it was Kaine and Romney. Missed on the Demo side. Waiting if I will bat .500 on the GOP.
I also predicted Hilary’s name would be put into nomination for VP. I see something is stirring about that today.
#1104 wontbackdown Did I read somewhere up on the blog that the Annenburg (Ayers) papers have been scrubbed? I do know the news media had about 40 or was it 140 boxes of papers and there were memos in there between XO and Ayers. I just hope something sticks.
Also, did you also hear that the delegates were collecting signatures to put Hilary in nomination for VP? After all, Biden isn’t the VP yet.
#1095 LadyLiberty – Well said, and thank you!
http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_10246037
Air Force One replica lands at Invesco for exhibit
DNC and the party is a fucking mess . I will sit back and laugh and gladly vote for Mccain.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1050017/Pictured-The-miniature-Greek-temple-Barack-Obama-launch-final-push-U-S-presidency.html
Pictured: The miniature ‘Greek temple’ from which Barack Obama will launch his final push for the U.S. presidency
Hey Dragonfly – just passing through like a Dragonfly – LOL – Post #895 should have been an action plan for everyone interested in putting pressure on the DNC now and on each States ballot.
#1113 blondlady – “…Pumas are taking too much oxygen out of the convention…”
Good – Go PUMAs!!!
#1104 wontbackdown Did I read somewhere up on the blog that the Annenburg (Ayers) papers have been scrubbed? I do know the news media had about 40 or was it 140 boxes of papers and there were memos in there between XO and Ayers. I just hope something sticks.
There are delegates collecting signatures to put Hilary in nomination for VP? After all, Biden isn’t the VP yet.
Pictured: The miniature ‘Greek temple’ from which Barack Obama will launch his final push for the U.S. presidency….
…and then hopefully be rocketed out into space.
#600 LivingGrace If Bush strikes Iran before the new president is installed, Marshall Law will go into effect and Bush will still be pres.
About the roll call:
This just in off Fox news’ website:
FOX News has confirmed that there will be no stoppage and 50 states will “have their say.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/27/delegates-prepare-for-divided-roll-call/
re#1122 anna
maybe joe biden is the temple eunuch?
Did they say he wa going to come up from below???
LOL…we should ask him what it is like in …. well you know ?
If anyone will cause problems at the convention, it will be Gloria Allred. This could still be an interesting evening.
My personal opinion about Hillary is that her and Bill’s careers are virtually over – especially when BO loses. So, if I were them, I would pull the surprise that we are the only ones that would be expecting.
and with that MO, I AM GOING TO BED !!!
#1126 prowlland
LMAO… and here I was amused with myself thinking of him walking water.
#1124 maxgrader The only reason XO is agreeing to this is because they got pledged votes from the delegates and they know they will be over the top. Didn’t I hear that Ohio and NY already voted in favor of XO?
As far as the Phil Berg lawsuit is concerned, I posted yesterday that I spoke to Phil and he does not have hard core evidence. His evidence is Obama’s own statements in his books and also an audio of Obama. I told him I would not be posting anything until I had evidence. He claims he could put O under cross examination and get him to admit to what he wrote and also that the audio was his voice. His last message to me, “I guess I’ll have to go buy the books.” Come on, why didn’t you have the books already? He may have gotten a lot of information also from Andy Martin’s book, “Obama, the Man Behind the Mask”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/27/delegates-prepare-for-divided-roll-call/
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Of course they will, now that they were able to guarantee ahead of time that BO would win by a landslide. I wonder what they did that will keep Hillary supporters quiet tonight at the roll call?
#1079 ladyhawkke on 08.27.08 at 3:15 pm
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I agree. I will personally be voting either McCain or no vote for POTUS, but campaigning hard for worthy down ticket Dems. If McCain gets it we’ll need reliable Dems in the House and Senate to keep some balance.
re#1129 jody
with all those skeletons in his closet you would think obama should be walking on thin ice..hehe
I FIND IT VERY FUNNY HOW HRC RELEASED HER DELEGATES AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT WITHIN MINUTES FOX ANNOUNCE A 50 STATE ROLL CALL…HMMMM REALLY? DO WE SEEM THAT STUPID?
CAN YOU SAY – BROKERED DEAL!
Finally had a chance to look at the “Greek temple” photo. Not sure who started that verbal description of it. Just looks like they’re trying to recreate an image of what much of the government architecture in DC looks like. That said, it doesn’t matter since the entire stadium extravaganza is embarressing. The Republicans must be loving every minute of this!
768 Noblecascade – Just wanted you to know that I read your post. I’ve been here since very near the beginning and have only twice had anyone read what I wrote. It’s still worthwhile – I read for hours every day and do every prowl. It feels good to know that together we are making a difference that we can live with!
Hello Hill Fans!
Yesterday was very busy. First, I really got into wearing my Hillary gear as it was the day of the march. I put on my Hillary t-shirt along with,oooohhh, about five buttons: three on the front and one on each sleeve. I grabbed my Hillary rally signs and went to the 16th St mall for coffee. On the way, I had an excellent interview with Canada.com. This was my idea of a reporter. Absolutely no spin. Also a really good interview with the LA Times. I gave her one of our dvds.
My gear got quite a bit of attention and lots of photos…press and others. Met a couple of other folks with Hillary signs and had coffee. Then off to the march!
The march was really great! Crowd estimate was between 300 – 500 Hillary fans. Lots of signs, drums, and chanting. A lot of press coverage; lots of interviews. The march was maybe a mile to a mile and half. I thought it went really well, although the march route was off the main route.
After the march I went to the Womancountpac.org luncheon. The food was really good and quite coincidentally I ate at a table with one of the founders of the New Agenda. She gave me her email, so we will be able to connect with them concerning our boycott of msnbc/nbc. There were several speakers, mainly women running for congress or the senate. One on particular, from New York, spoke about electing women who support other women. This is a problem, as we had several women, for example Pelosi, McCaskill, and Napolitano, who were supported by women contributors and then did not support Hillary. Then, Hillary arrived!!! Yes, I saw her. She had Chelsea with her. She gave a brief talk, mentioned unity, but not OB’s name. We were all relieved. At one point everyone started chanting HILLARY! HILLARY! And Hillary quipped, “With that energy we could raise this room.” After the talk I managed to get up close enough to have her sign my rally sign. Then, I waited for Chelsea to walk down, and I went up to her, told her I was from Asheville, and gave her our dvd! She said she liked Asheville and looked real interested in the dvd. (that was my last one! should have brought more). Interestingly, at this precise moment, Anne Marie was also walking up to Chelsea. So we also chatted.
As I left the luncheon and walked out the door, I ran into Kristie (can’t remember her last name now), the founder of Clintons for McCain. She was organizing a walk down the sidewalk to the MSNBC/NBC site so a few of us joined in. She started chanting, Clintons for McCain, and we were immediately surrounded and barraged with insults and calls. So, Kristie asked for a police escort. (the streets are lined with fully equipped riot police and I think most are Hillary supporters). So we got this escort down the sidewalk. Just at this point, a reporter from the New York Times asked if he could interview me. So, I said yes, as long as he walked with me, which he did.
Well, by this point I had to rush back to where I was staying so I could clean up and get back into town for the Denver Group meet and eat. (I can not tell you how much I have sweated since being here…the sun is intense! and all of those marches and walks are in the sun).
The Denver Group meet and eat was in a French restaurant (casual). Heidi was there, but Marc could not come to Denver due to personal issues. Heidi is a very petite, very bright person and she recognized my name and said how impressed she was with our group and all we do. She spoke briefly and said the Denver Group’s focus after the convention will be reform of the Democratic Party, starting immediately with a change in leadership. She said it is important to start right away, as the new leadership is chosen right after the convention. She, personally, will not be voting for Obama and it sounded like she would just not be voting. Many of us in the room had other opinions on this, but Heidi speaks just like she writes: very precisely and thoughtfully, and also she is very gracious and charming, and knows how to handle a crowd. I’d say keep an eye on this group.
After this , I went to Cheesman Park to watch Hillary’s speech. They had a big screen set up. The crowd was very upbeat and we all cheered wildly when Hillary came on to speak. One person started dancing in the wading pool. There was press there also. However, once Hillary started speaking, the mood definitely went down, as she said OB’s name so many times….some people wanted to leave. But we all stayed.
This morning I spoke with two people who were inside the convention. Nancy from San Diego said that there was such a great feeling of love for Hillary and many people were crying. Her speech was terrific. Dee, another new friend, said many people, and delegates, were saying, “she is my president.” There really is no unity inside that convention. I can testify that the Obama people are making no effort to be nice to Hillary people or trying at all for unity; apparently that is somehow Hillary’s job…Nancy said she gave an interview where she said that it was not Hillary’s job to create unity and what was Obama doing about it?
Today we are hoping to get a bit closer to the Pepsi Center as the delegates enter and show our continued support for Hillary. I have to leave tomorrow, so it will be an early evening for me. I have to clean up the place I am staying, which has been really quiet and comfortable, but pretty much all I do is sleep and shower there.
If you come across any interviews with me, please save them as I really don’t have the time to check myself.
Go Hillary!
Kathy
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The BO camp is a bit anxious about Bill’s speech tonight and what Bill said in a talk last night sure didn’t help! He did try to qualify it, but the message got across!
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Bill Clinton In Denver Again Undercuts Obama
By Sam Youngman
EXCERPTS from: http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/bill-clinton-in-denver-again-undercuts-obama-2008-08-26.html
DENVER — Bill Clinton appeared to undermine Sen. Barack Obama again Tuesday.
…speaking in Denver, [he] posed a hypothetical question in which he seemed to suggest that that the Democratic Party was making a mistake in choosing Obama as its presidential nominee.
He said: “Suppose for example you’re a voter. And you’ve got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don’t think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues, but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver. For whom would you vote?”
Democrats concerned about what the former president might say when he addresses the Democratic convention Wednesday night would likely have cringed at his remarks Tuesday to a group of foreign dignitaries.
The former president talked about the importance of a politician being able to deliver on his promises following an electoral victory and how voters factor in that ability to deliver when picking their candidate.
During the …….nomination battle……. the Clinton campaign repeatedly pushed the question of whether Obama, a freshman senator, had the experience or the ability to deliver on his promises if elected. Clinton, they argued, was more suited to do so.
The unifying-the-party aspect is what has many Democrats concerned about Clinton’s Wednesday night remarks.
Clinton has been a media magnet throughout the year as his remarks have caused heartache and headaches to former and current supporters.
Now in a convention that continues to be racked with stories and questions about how unified the Democratic Party truly is, Clinton’s appearance Wednesday — and his tendency to go off the teleprompter — has some Democrats very nervous.
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#1129 pink puma
if that was a comment about him being skinny doesn’t what make you racist? lol
the Pope has just ordered an EXORCISM for nancy pelosi..she’s possesed by pazzuzzu..
Clinton’s delegates need to just get up and walk out if the DNC try to not go through with a real roll call vote. That way, those delegates can not ‘officially’ vote for either canidate and BO cannot therefore, actually get the number needed to be the nominee. And this would all be on camera and therefore on the official record.
Another lawsuit
The Real Truth About Obama, Inc. (RTAO) v. FEC and US Department of Justice (08-00483)
District Court Documents
* FEC Memorandum in Opposition to Plaintiff’s Motion for Preliminary Injunction (8/14/08) [PDF; 88 pages]
* US Department of Justice’s Opposition to Plaintiff’s Motion for Preliminary Injunction (8/14/08) [PDF; 8 pages]
* Memorandum of Campaign Legal Center and Democracy 21 as Amici Curiae in Opposition to Plaintiff’s Motion for a Preliminary Injunction (8/14/08) [PDF; 34 pages]
* Amicus Curiae Brief of Professors Richard Briffault and Daniel R. Ortiz (8/14/08) [PDF; 25 pages]
just got back
good evening pumas
anything new?????????
#1095 lady liberty
you hit it right on the notch¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
URGENT!!!!!!!!
Hello everyone,
I’ve been away but just checked my e-mail. Received following urgent message. Some of our HC delegates need to hear form us. If you are in TX and see your district below please call your HC delegates and tell them you want them to vote for HC. Remind them of DNC rules.
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DNC Rules to our PDs:
“All delegates to the National Convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.”
“Call for the Democratic National Convention 2008”
DNC Rules, Sec. VIII (F)(3)(c)
ACTION:
PLEASE ACT to ensure that San Antonio ’s Senate Districts are fairly represented by our Pledged Delegates! It is still early enough to contact our delegates. Ask them to please stay true to their commitments to us! PLEASE CALL NOW and/or text our Delegates and politely but firmly say, “Thank you for standing firm in your pledge for Hillary” or something similar. Yes, Hillary gave a beautiful, inspirational speech last night meant to unite the Party. However, our Delegates were sent to Denver as HILLARY representatives, and it is important that HISTORY records our votes and voices through a Roll Call.
Our delegates can be reached as follows:
SD #26
Linda Moore: 940.642.8882
Larry Romo: 210.647.7987
Patrick Vance: 210.246.2336
Joe Bernal: 210.342.8026
SD #19
Henry Garcia: 210.246.2867
Carolina Rodriguez: ???????
SD #21
Reynaldo Trevino: 830.772.5930
SD #25
Maria Jimenez: 512.301.0469
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I’m off to make phone calls,
Lara08
obamas people are telling nancy to STFU!!
I think this might be BO’s biggest flip-flop – the way he keeps changing the way the roll call is going to be handled. If that is not the sign of a weak person, I don’t know what is,
And, voters actually think he is capable of running our country?
hahahaha a greek temple!
this stunt is going to backfire bigtime on obama..
a greek temple!!
1142 ladyhawkke – what does all this mean?
776 I think we are all concerned about everything McCain will do but have even more concerns about the disastrous effect of an Obama administration. The fundamental rights assured us by the Constituion are being stomped on even in our election process. If a citizen can’t safely walk into a polling place – Roe v Wade is way down the list of concerns.
I could see hillary as ATHENA
#1138
He said: “Suppose for example you’re a voter. And you’ve got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don’t think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues, but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver. For whom would you vote?”
~~~~was he saying we’ll vote for McCain if bo’s the candidate? or am I just not getting it?
Just grabbed this off the Denver Post site.
Hillary meeting with delegates right now.
http://news.politicswest.com/politicswestnews/ci_10315674
The longer this thread goes, the harder time I am having getting in to it. I wonder if it is just me?
LOL pink I didn’t think many people knew who pazuzu was!
Ok I missed it. Did she release her delegates?
1151 notfollowinthepiedpiper @@@@ that is what I take from it..
NO middle age it is not just you
#1148 middleage female don’t know, i guess we’re all hoping something sticks to this teflon guy so we can get rid of him once and for all
1137 KENDALBLUE – thanks for the update. Love to hear what is happening behind the scenes.
I can’t refresh anymore. I have leave and come back just to refresh
jody in Florida 1100-1101
Larry Sinclair isn’t from DE. The warrent for his arrest which was supposed to stop his press conference was issued by the atty gen of Delaware (Biden’s son). It was a trumped up charge about owing some money at a motel where he’d stayed two years before. He paid the bill. You can check his website for the full explanation. But it can’t be a coincidence that he was arrested in Washington DC on charges that originated in DE.
Also from precinct delegate in Denver:
“Last night at the Denver Group’s Reception, as reported by the Congressional Quarterly,
A prominent backer of Hillary Rodham Clinton now says delegate intimidation by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama ’s campaign means a fair nomination vote will be impossible on Wednesday night.”
If Obama is elected and messes up this country even more than it is now, then the Democrats will get the blame.
What that will mean is Hillary will NOT get elected in 2012, because the voters will not trust the Democrats.
If Obama wins we can kiss the presidency goodbye for at least 8 to 12 years.
re#1151 not..
I’ll take candidate “Z”
William Ayer’s “Weather Ground” organization is alive and well.
We used to call it the “Democratic Party”.
It belongs to Ayers and Obama now.
Congratulations Obama and the Democratic Party!
Instead of making the changes you promised if we elected you to congress, you wanted more power.
Too bad you were so busy planning this coup AGAINST our democracy to get it.
Too bad that because of your ineffectiveness, we were struggling with our jobs, homes, healthcare, food costs and the price of gas.
You failed us in your congressional powers over the last 4 years and you have failed us now.
I highly doubt that you will get another chance.
We’ve learned our lesson: The Democratic Party is a scam.
We Will Remember In November! AND BEYOND!
We need to take the Democratic Party apart, piece by piece – just like they have our votes and our democoracy.
WE STILL HAVE AN HOUR:
PLEASE SEND THE LETTER AT #895 TO THIS LIST:
Nbrowning@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
scuevas@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
ddawkins@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bdearing@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
hfrazier@mail.state.ms.us,
Tgollott@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
Jgordon@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
aharden@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bharvey@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
jhorhn@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
sjackson@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
djordan@mail.senate.state.ms.us,,
gwilliamson@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
jwalls@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
bturner@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
gtollison@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
wsimmons@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
lposey@mail.senate.state.ms.us,
nmettetal@mail.senate.state.ms.us
As was said at #1032 MsBinMD on 08.27.08 at 2:54 pm
to 951 Goalucard4Hill
I’m in “for WIZARD” AND , in honor of your return!!
DRAGONFLY RODHAM PUMA
They said they voted yesterday on paper and Those are the results they will be using that is what that delegate from Miss. said
Middle age female………… you are welcome. It’s nice to hear from Denver
This may have been posted:
MommaE just found through Christy that the birthcertificate and citizenship stuff is known by HRC and it will be coming out soon.
#1160 LadyLiberty
I wonder whether that is related to BO’s choice of VP… ?
Wouldn’t put it past BO.
#1140 pink puma
you are very funny¡¡
may i barrow it??
re#1160 Lady..
larry sinclair should get together with dick morris
1164 wontbackdown……………….. BRAVO !!!!!
1142 ladyhawkke
What is this case about.. do you have the link ?
1137 KENDALBLUE – FOX had reported there were approx 1,000 in the parade.
pink puma…………………….hahahahahhahahahahhaha
I 2nd that !!!!!
re#1170
story..
sure!
EVERYONE; WE HAVE A HURRICANE THAT MAY BE HEADED TO NEW ORLEANS. PLEASE PRAY FOR US THAT IT DOES NOT. THANK YOU AUGUST 29 is the 3rd anniversay of Katrina..
1031 lisa
I send the email thanks
I haven’t said much today, because I cannot make sense of the fact that democracy is going down the tubes and half of the Democratic Party is involved in this Cult of Obama.
He is SO NOT the candidate who should be put forward to lead the United States (and the free world) at this point in time!
I am just astounded and speechless at what I am witnessing here.
#1126 prowlland
What’s going on? Day 3
Posted on August 27, 2008 by riverdaughter
Rumors are swirling fast and furiously around here. I am trying to confirm the following:
* The delegates voted this morning from their hotel rooms and the vote was so close that Pelosi is trying to do damage control. We don’t know what the status of the roll call is at this time or whether there will be one.
* Bill Clinton refuses to stick to the script that was written for him and may not be speaking tonight.
I am trying to confirm these rumors with someone working on the delegate petitions. But I just called him a second ago and he sounds really, REALLY busy and overwhelmed. I hope he’ll call me back in a bit.
Superdelegates: We all want to have a Democrat in the White House next year. There is only one winning Democratic ticket. That is Hillary on top and Obama as VP.
1177 NewOrleansPuma
…. hope it misses us both
Im in Houston
#1048 NoBamaDem: You’re right! My bad!
Goalucard4hill,
So excited to see you here! There is so much going on and I would hate for you to miss any of it. Hope all is well with you.
NewOrleansPuma
You have my prayers!
NewOrleansPuma , Prayers with you and the Gulf Coast. Be Safe
Alice Rodham Puma – At least you’re in the right club, here. I think we’ve all said all the words that can be said, but it never feels like enough because the feeling of shock and rage continues to reverberate at every twist and turn. Hang in there.
New Orleans Puma – Thinking of you. Hope beyond hope you are spared another horrid hurricane.
http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=788
CHECK IT OUT PUMAS – HILLARY GETS THE BOUNCE!
NewOrleansPuma, My thoughts and prayers are with you. We are your neighbors on the MS Gulf Coast. We are all watching this very closely. Went through Katrina and that was enough.
FOX: Alexis Herman says all states’ votes will be counted but will not say that all will be on roll call
Fox now
Hedging on FOX about roll call now
1137 KENDALBLUE – FOX had reported there were approx 1,000 in the parade.
well, I wasn’t there. That was just the email from my friend …
UPDATE :::::::::SOUTHJERSEYPUMA just called. sounds very down. said she would call back later. reception is bad…..
FOX: Alexis Herman says there are very few HRC supporters left and that there is unity. BS!
have a read
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_carlson&sid=aVpGDOm6glN8
Alexis Hermen makes me sick!
oh man! you just know so many of those delegates are thinking to themselves..”what the hell am I doing when we all know hillary COULD WIN IN NOV”
what a predicament!!
I would like to remind all of you that there are several children that read this blog. Let’s please refrain from the
foul language.
Can we give an update from DENVER!!!!!!!!
Alexis Herman on Neil Cavuto on fox saying there weill be a full roll call vote but when Neil asked her if there will be no interruption and she wouldn’t confirm that. She said there are not a lot of disgruntled Hillary supporters and reports that some have walked out are not true. Neil played with her a little bit and let her go. The fact that she was even on Fox today was to deny the rifts.
Can we get an update from DENVER!!!!!!!!
1130 ladyhawkke This is disappointing news. Thanks for keeping us informed. Maybe the records of the The Chicago Anneberg Challenge will help develop into something.
1137 KENDALBLUE Thank you for sharing your day with us. How exciting to actually get to meet Hillary and Chelsea.
IF it’s true that pledged delegates had to write down who they would be voting for, that is truly intimidating. I mean, the DNC knows exactly how each state was broken down in terms of number of delegates for Obama and number for Clinton. For a delegate to have to face some power broker asking them to identify who they would be voting for is so horrible. Are there no rules of how such processes should unfold? Can the DNC truly keep changing the rules by the minute as they see fit to protect their little kingdom?
C-span was just speaking about James Carville wearing Puma sneakers at the CNN headquarters . Also, Hillary to formally release delgates during roll call this evening and interrupt vote acclaiming NObama as nominee.
Joe Biden’s sister was interviewed, as well. Didn’t come across as liking Hillary..IMO
#1165 Dragonfly…
JUST FINISHED THE PROWL!
((((((FOR WIZARD AND STEPHANIE TUBBS-JONES))))))
Since this fiasco they call a convention was already decided, why bother to put on such an elaborate display.
It’s so lacking in class and such an embarrassment that IMO the money could have been better spent on important things….like, you know, the homeless, stocking food banks, medical research, assistance to vets…… or even maybe alternative energy!
Sorry – had to vent!
#1199 roxy4hill2
Can we give an update from DENVER!!!!!!!!
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See post #1137
Just got back
wow …trying to catch up seems impossible
I am very disappointed in the lack of communication from Murphy and those in Denver. I’ll keep the rest of my thought to myself.
i dont like hillary telling her delegates that NOT supporting Obama is the same as helping the GOP..
#1162 MsMaVotes -If Obama is elected and messes up this country even more than it is now, then the Democrats will get the blame.
What that will mean is Hillary will NOT get elected in 2012, because the voters will not trust the Democrats.
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Everyone- REMEMBER THIS- of Obama gets elected, Hillary cannot run for 8 years, not in 2012, it will be 2016- Obama will be an incumbent- she will not be able to run against him
NewOrleans PUMA: I’m praying for you; I’m in FL and know.
XXOO
Listening to Alexis Hermen makes me believe that they have no intention of letting all the state delegations announce their choice. She says that they are still working out the particulars, that they have tokeep some excitement in the process. l’ll bet they will have Hillary stop it at New York and give it to Obama by acclamation. Needless to say, I’m not very happy.
Oneof18million cracks… ………sorry, didn’t mean to confuse anyone. I am not in Denver. That is an email from my friend in the Denver group that is there and keeping me posted here. And when I get an email from her, I post it for everyone to read here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8m-ylrKz5I&eurl=http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Barack obama Bill william ayers NEW DOCUMENTS revealed !!!
1196 mkp651 on 08.27.08 at 4:05 pm
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Oh yes, Alexis Herman. Wasn’t she on the RBC that stole delegates from Hillary to give to BO on May 31, 2008. We will remember ALL those people as we move forward! Yes, she is a disgrace.
#1209 heysandy
I agree with you.
GOSUEF4HIL – Don’t worry. Obama’s not getting elected in ‘08. However, I do believe the Democratic party is trying to move away from Clintonian politics and it may be even harder for Hillary to make a run in 4 years if things keep moving in this direction. But, 4 years is a long time and a lot of things are going to happen that no one can anticipate. But, for now, I wouldn’t worry too much about BO being an incumbent. I feel pretty confident (as confident as a worry wart like me can feel!) that the GOP are going to define him like they did Kerry and Gore and they’ve got a whole lot more to use against him than they did for either of those two. It’s going to be an interesting couple of months leading up to the GE and we’ll all keep working our tails off to block Obama.
#588 MARYD
Think about, you are right. Also her body language had said so too.
Hillary, please do not say and do anything for BO’s ONC anymore, voters will have to use their own judgments.
What ONC has done is very disrespectful to other key candidate, they are forcing her to get out and to politically destroy her by asking her to help BO like this.
What a mess, never thought DNC should be like this nonsense type – fool of voters.
Never changed and will not change a bit on who to vote.
#1209 heysandy
I am dying of curiosity, too. But if Murphy is not updating us, I hope it is because she is out there trench fighting. Some of the posts are indicating that they have a preliminary count from this morning and it is very close.
1209 heysandy………. It is a little frustrating huh?
#1214 KENDALBLUE
The Denver update was great! If you get any more would you mind posting them with DENVER UPDATE or something attention-getting so it’s easier to find? Thanks!
(now I’ve got to go pick up my dtr from school and something big will probably happen while i’m gone. grrrr….)
New Orleans
I have candles lit for you and the city we love.
#1165 Dragonfly
Sent a non state specific copy of the letter to all on your listed.
#1216 NoBamaDem
She was co-chair and is and has been in the tank for Obama from the beginning.
We will eventually get all the details of what is going on. Right now we have to support our field soldiers.
Is there anyone out there who could start a new thread so that it does not take so long to refresh abd scroll back down the page? Thank you
Headclunker – Yup.
#1177 New Orleans Puma
You and all of your beautiful city are in my prayers. I checked NOAA and at least the 5 day cone forecast has a 300 mile margin of error. I am in the Pensacola area, so I understand the anxiety of watching the storms brew and cross Cuba.
HILLARY 08
HILLARY 08
HILLARY 08
re#1218 anna
on many fronts america is in crisis,and if history tells us anything it tells us that crisis create greater POLARIZATION in society.. in the case of the obama campaign its the left that has risen and gained strength..in the future we will see the middle collapse as the far right and left become more powerful…
Has anyone read the greta wire that was mentioned earlier? If so I would think that there should be a way from having the roll call and giving Biden the VP. Can anyone respond.
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT
Copy of Bergs lawsuit that was filed 8/21/08
1144 Lara08
WOW WOW WOW
sorry if this a already known
i found your request for calls to san antonio’s delegates. as a texan, i jumped on it/ linda moore just called me back. they did do the paper vote this am. the reason it took her 5 minutes to call back was hill was in meeting with her delegates. i expressed how proud we were she is was in denver, linda replied back – thaqnks for the call and reminding me of my responsibilities -
jody in florida
That is not an update. I want to know what is TRUE what is RUMOR. What INSIGHTS do they have!!!!!!!!
It’s crunch time in Denver and I doubt Murphy or anyone else can attend to the blog as much as they might like. It’s really hard to be on the ground. They’re there representing this movement and we gotta trust that their limited communication right now is indicative of other priorities they are dealing with. It’s really frustrating, but let’s try to be patient.
Did I hear correctly that Bill Clinton has left Denver?
Then, moments ago, I read at the Confluence a rumor that Bill Clinton refuses to stick to the script that was written for him and may not be speaking tonight.
Not speaking tonight?
Maybe he has left and there’s your reason.
1177 NewOrleansPuma
My prayers are with you.
I have a daughter who lives in Florida and she gets very nervous during the hurricane season.
Middle aged~ I think you are seeing a huge amount of anticipatory non directed energy. We have no prowls going that haven’t been done, and everyone is very anxious re: the roll call coming up. It just HAS to go somewhere!!
OMG FOX NEWS Hillary just released her delegates…NO
Received a reply from our letter to the Ohio Sec of State thanking me for bringing it to their attention and saying is any action is required, rest assured that the proper department will take it.
I FOUND IT
Democratic National Committee, Washington, D.C.
Website http://www.democrats.org
Main number 202-863-8000
Main fax 202-479-5125
Howard Dean, Chairman 202-863-8000
Lottie Shackelford, Linda Chavez-Thompson, Mike Honda, Susan Turnbull, Mark Brewer, Vice Chairs 202-863-8177
Andrew Tobias, Treasurer 202-863-8029
Alice Travis Germond, Secretary 202-863-7183
Philip D. Murphy, Natl. Finance Chair 202-488-5075
Democratic National Convention Committee, Denver
Website http://www.demconvention.com
Main number 720-362-2008
Main fax 720-362-2009
Nancy Pelosi, Permanent Convention Chair 720-362-2008
Kathleen Sebelius, Leticia Van de Putte, Shirley Franklin, Permanent Convention Co-Chairs 720-362-2008
Leah D. Daughtry,Chief Exec. Officer 720-362-2008
Peggy Cusack, Chief of Staff 720-362-2008
Susana Carbajal, Chief Counsel 720-362-2008
Travis Dredd,Internal Operations Dep. CEO 720-362-2008
Christian Duffus, Finance and Admin. Dep. CEO 720-362-2008
Jenni Engebretsen, Public Affairs Dep. CEO 720-362-2008
Sky Gallegos, Intergov’tl. Affairs Dep. CEO 720-362-2008
Cameron Moody, External Operations Dep. CEO 720-362-2008
The farce hasn’t begun yet. Flood the offices with calls and tell them:
We spend taxpayer money for elections that are fair and honest, and support the will of the people.
Party leaders decided to give the nomination to Barack Obama, when he failed to reach the requisite number of delegates needed to secure it. The super delegates have no “vote” until the convention. But it seems this time, the super delegates have voted in secret. And we will not be allowed to “see” the votes of the pledged delegates.
I protest the spending of our state tax dollars to allow a handful of members of the Democratic National Committee to pick their own candidate in violation of even their own rules, and run that candidate on our state ballots. What other private club gets to pick a candidate for President to get onto the ballot in the general election? I assure you, I intend to work to amend our state laws so that from now on DNC will not be allowed access to our state ballots without the requisite fees and petitions that the other political parties such as the Green Party or the Libertarian Party must pay and supply, unless they return to holding fair elections based upon votes of citizens.
Democratic National Committee, Washington, D.C.
Website http://www.democrats.org
Main number 202-863-8000
Main fax 202-479-5125
Howard Dean, Chairman 202-863-8000
THERE IS STILL TIME TO FLOOD THE MAIN OFFICES WITH PHONE CALLS. Even if this is their home office they will get news of it!!!
fox report – delegates are released.
Fox just said: Hillary released her delegates, saying its been fun.
FOX reported HRC released her delegates – many shouted NO
WAR on MSNBC
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/08/27/wolfson-slams-olbermann-matthews-tokyo-rose-moniker
Hillary has just released her delegates on the floor!!
I am so upset Hillary released her delagates??
They can still vote the way they want to unless the DNC has strong armed them…
virginia puma – another very wise post. thanks.
OMG FOX NEWS Hillary just released her delegates… they just said she did it.
Super delegates – Please help put the best candidate on issues back, to save the party. BO had not won a single debate on issues – 4 years is too short on training inexperienced BUSH like candidate.
STOP ONC – BO is not ready.
O.K. so she released her delegates. STILL, the delegates can revolt or vote for her. It’s still not over!
re#1235
oh..that would be so fantastic if bill clinton left denver
PROWL AT #1240 URGENT
ACT QUICKLY!!!
see my post #
1232 Blue Blue Gal
they did do the paper vote this morning!!!!!!!! no, no, no…………………
Keep all children off the blog…….this might get nasty! haha
Hello everyone,
I spoke to a Clinton precinct delegate who is on the floor of the convention and she wanted me to let you know that the precinct delegates voted this morning (and she voted for Hillary). There will be a tally of the votes this afternoon (she didn’t say when) and as far as she knew precinct delegates would be allowed to change their votes this evening. Once again, according to this delegate, she was under the impression that people could CHANGE their votes this evening.
I guess that means that if you have a way of contacting your delegates you should continue to do so, so they don’t change their minds and continue to support Hillary!
Best,
Lara08
Releasing her delegates just means they are not obligated to vote for her but they can still vote whatever way they want to…that is if they’re allowed to vote….
The “fix” has been in since before the primaries were held. Hillary is now doing what she has to to survive. Remember, if Obama is elected Hillary won’t have a shot in 2012. As painful as it may be, a McCain victory is the only way to keep an opportunity open for her to run again.
IT’S NOT OVER TIL THE LADY IN THE PANTS SUIT SAYS IT IS
HILLARY 08
HILLARY 08
HILLARY 08
great..thats all we need now another destructive hurricane .. well i guess gas prices will be back up over 4.50 a gallon fairly soon..
So, what does that mean, she released her delegates? It is 1/2 hour before the roll call. Everybody’s mind is made up about how they will vote. If Clinton wants to take this win, she needs to show she gave BO every chance.
they did the paper ballot vote at the hotel this morning!!!!!
grrrrrrrrr
There is a good read at http://hilljackers.com
that makes some sense of last night.
“Dear Democratic Party Members:
Re: COUNT ON THIS – MARK THESE WORDS – TAKE A DEEP BREATH!
If you think “PUMAS are stealing too much oxygen” from your stage play in Denver, think again!
WE HAVE JUST BEGUN!
1) We will EXPOSE YOU to the American Public for what you are and what you have done this (the people’s)election!
2) We will EXPOSE YOU to the American Public for the dirty money you used to make a mockery of this (the People’s) election!
3) We will EXPOSE YOU for every lie you told to deceive the American Voter!
4) We will EXPOSE YOU for each and every failure you are in upholding democracy!
5) We will write your names in history as one of the most corrupt body of Democratic leaders this country has ever seen!
6) We will organize and not only Vote You Out of Office but press for prosecution of any crimes that you have committed against the American Public!
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MARK THESE WORDS! WE HAVE JUST BEGUN THE MOVEMENT OF:
“PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION”
#1198 – Lisa
thanks for saying that. I like to read the blogs, but when I see one going that direction, I move to the next one.
I wish we could start a new thread, my guess is its going to get real busy on here real soon! And it is slowing down.
1264 wontbackdown
I am with you!!!!
#1211 GOSUEF4HIL—
It won’t be 8 years because McCain is goiung to win in November I believe he will only serve 4 years….. Obama will have lost face in the democratic party…. The true Democrats will have cleaned out the power hungry biased representatives of the DNC…
Listen to FOX now!
Apparently Hillary didn’t tell her delegates they had to vote for Obama…she told them to vote the way they choose…yea!!
I’ve said this since sometime in spring. It is all those male Democratic failed Presidency seekers that are jealous of Senator Clinton and are afraid to have a strong woman beat them at their game. So, they have conspired to “beat” her by hook or by crook. The biased media, the Chicago corrupt politics didn’t bother them at all and so we are left with a nominee that is not at all prepared for the office of the Presidency.
As for Pelosi, she likes being 2nd in line for the presidency, being the “most powerful woman in the world.” So, of course, she is livid with jealousy of Senator Clinton who has proven to be the most capable person in the United States to be the leader of the Free World.
1264 wontbackdown
Right On!!!! I’m ready for this sham to be over so we can get to work.
My priorities:
1) Get rid of Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi
2) Abolish the caucus system
3) Insure we are never again deprived of a fair and legitimate roll call vote.
Hillary said:
If you want to vote for Barack Obama, I urge you to do that. If you want to vote for me, then vote your conscious.”
When Hillary released her delegates she said vote for Obama or the way you WANT to.
AMEN NewOrleansPuma!! I live near N.O. too and my anxiety is up big time! Please, please pray for everyone who lives in the gulf coast region!!
#1177 NewOrleansPuma on 08.27.08 at 3:57 pm EVERYONE; WE HAVE A HURRICANE THAT MAY BE HEADED TO NEW ORLEANS. PLEASE PRAY FOR US THAT IT DOES NOT. THANK YOU AUGUST 29 is the 3rd anniversay of Katrina..
1238 slyt2 on 08.27.08 at 4:24 pm OMG FOX NEWS Hillary just released her delegates…NO
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BUT – she did not tell then how to vote. She told them to vote for whoever they wanted to.
roll call in 22 minutes.
It’s not over ’til it’s over! I was reminded of that watching the Olympics. You may think you are in 4th place, but someone may get disqualified or something happens at the finish line and now you have a medal. So there you go.
Please keep contacting your delegates until the 11th hour! Most everything the MSM has reported has been wrong this past election year. What if what they’ve said about tonight is a total lie?!
-Lara08
The DNC is Chicago thugery!!!!
Nobama/Nobiden/November
Fellow PUMAs, I, for one, will never regret this noble fight we waged.
Murphy, Mama, Maryland, et. al. stood up and challenged what we now know is a deeply corrupt DNC and made a significant difference. Together we opened many eyes to the rigged system and provided a peaceful, intelligent avenue to begin addressing our grievances.
Releasing the Hillary delegates may be just the spark needed to light the torch that enables people to see how rotten our politics have become.
Let’s keep our chins up and see what the rest of the day brings.
#1270 dmrr on 08.27.08 at 4:35 pm : That’s what makes her presidential material. We own our votes; she knows it and so does Bill. Giving him an assignment and approval on his speech??? Go Bill…no one tells us what to do. NO ONE!! This is tyranny by the Democratic party and Obama. O is not going to force PRESIDENT CLINTON TO DO ANYTHING.
Is TexasTigress on here right now???
There was supposed to be continuous blogging from Denver. That was stated beforehand.
Just a reminder that according to the DNC Call to Convention, all delegates are supposed to vote as representatives of those who elected them….way back when.
So don’t panic. HRC releasing delegates is a bit of a formality at this point.
It doesn’t say ‘ vote for BO.’
It says once and for all “you are free to make up your own minds who to vote for. “
alohapuma – i second that motion! (right on, as always)
“To my supporters, to my champions, to my sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits, from the bottom of my heart, thank you, because you never gave in, and you never gave up. Together we made history. . . .”
WE ARE STILL FIGHTING FOR YOU HILLARY!!!!!!!
#1276 Middle age female yea I just heard Major say that on fox.
While i realize that releasing her delegates is symbolic, I KNEW something would happen when I was gone!!! I can’t even go to the bathroom w/out missing something! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…………….!
That scum is not anywhere near Denver, because he wants his lackeys to do his dirty work for him.
If he were there, he would have to answer for his devious behavior.
Shame on the DNC and all the other scum who call themselves Democrats.
They deserve whatever they get and then some!
greta
Hillary gained back 10 delegates! Terry McAuliffe is telling the delegates that they are to keep fighting.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Hillary Clinton respects the vote. I do not believe she would want the nomination if she could not win it fairly. I am sure she has better things to do than lead people who are not behind her.
BO does not get it.
1085 Rodham in Flag Sorry I missed your post – I had to rest up a bit before another long day. Thanks though. I think we have too many other thoughts here that are trying to undermine what we are doing or our beliefs.
I just saw BO’s plane arriving in Denver. I thought he wasn’t going to arrive until tomorrow. Is this a plan change or did I have it wrong?
1283 heysandy on 08.27.08 at 4:39 pm
There was supposed to be continuous blogging from Denver. That was stated beforehand.
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That is exactly what was stated.
Can we get an update from DENVER!!!
A NEW THREAD WOULD ALSO BE WELCOMED
We have already won an major victory for democracy to have come this far, win lose or draw.
keep going, hillary.
#1223 Caracal Carrie where’s your sister I need her for a moment???
#1275 mick:
You got it! How about it PUMAS? Louisiana needs our hearts and prayers or whatever protective energy we can send them.
(If it heads toward Texas, I’ll be asking the same for us.)
re#1265 blond
yeah, some of these blogs can get quite raw..just a suggestion..maybe you and lisa should send your kids to the other room to watch “beavis and butthead” on the kiddee channel..
According to Riverdaughter the am vote was so close that Pelosi is trying to do damage control. Probably called her protege and told him to get over here!!
1272 alohapuma
to protect the future of the USA – we must follow through with all your suggestions, and more. Many of the delegates from non caucus states are high profile people in their communities and of those, some are high profile attorneys. we need one that got so riled up at this convention that she/he is will to make this part of their life’s purpose. a scholar of political machinery would be helpful too.
#1293 blondlady
I thought that, too. I think he’s scared about this roll call.
#1290 Great! So, if you can, please find out how to contact your delegates and do so. Let’s get angry later.
Remind your delegates of DNC rules:
“All delegates to the National Convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.”
“Call for the Democratic National Convention 2008”
DNC Rules, Sec. VIII (F)(3)(c)
udas on fox crying that bill won’t speak to him, but it’s okay because he’s made up with Hillary. Neil really rolling him and getting him good.
My advice to the Delegates -
‘forget the roll call – walk out – there won’t be a nominee’
Show the SOB’s ‘you own your (our) vote’ and it’s not for sale.
I am raging mad.
Judas is on Fox – what a piece of s**t! We’re going to get over it!
greta
Mick ~ my thoughts are with you as well. You’ve got a great Govenor down there thank heavens.
What Bill needs to say:
Bill Clinton has a boiling rage inside his heart watching the DNC control the nominating process and the degradation of his wife. Bill needs to come to the people and speak up as if it were himself being violated. Bill needs to step up and admit the delegates were not allowed to vote as they wish to vote and remind them that while the DNC reinstated the full voting rights of Florida and Michigan delegates, it’s only disguised the lies of the full floor vote. By reinstating the full voting rights of Michigan and Florida, the DNC admits that the primaries of the states were controlled to select a candidate, all the while giving the people illusions of fairness at the convention. Even though the small amount of delegate votes will tactfully be given to Obama, he will lose the race when 14 Million PUMA’s vote for McCain.
That was Judas on my previous post – Richardson.
#1294 roxy4hill
I Murphy is not blogging I am sure there is good reason. I do not think she expected to be so involved in, or get so far with, this process. Please be patient!
1255 hillfan4mccain @@@@@@@@2 eas going to say that earlier but didn’t want to offend anyone….
but…………KEEP THE CHILDREN OFF………it’s a good idea
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
GO RIGHT NOW – NEW BREAKING INSIDE NEWS. CHECK IT OUT!
THANKS FOR THE POST#1290 go_Ohio_Lady
Wow. I gotta say. I’m not one to report blow by blow what I see on the news, but just turned on CNN and they showed delegates from Mississippii being told quite firmly that Clinton doesn’t want any “drama” on the convention floor and that she is solidly supporting Obama, etc….. I’d say that’s pretty intimidating, no? What a sad, say day this is indeed, when 18 million voices are muted, strong armed and pressured to reflect a distorted will of the electorate.
Well, we need a new thread because this one is so full, it is really dragging slow!!!!!
i hope Bill vents his anger at the speech tonight and i also hope his nose turns bright red while he is venting his rage to amplify the effect
It is a sad day in this country when a great American leader is pushed out of the way by some young, dumb man that has no business holding the highest position in this country. It is even sadder when that leader bows down and allows these people to run over her. What kind of example is that? When things get hard and people get mean, you do what they say? I have never in my life seen anyone treated the way Hillary Clinton has been treated during a primary season and still end up the popular vote winner, but some how she has to be the one to back out of the race before the convention? Nominations have gone to the convention floor several times and the parties involved have never been forced to bow out and give up their delegates the way Hillary has. Party unity is a joke. We have no party. We have a bunch of beuracrats that made up their minds and have forced that decision down our throats for months. We have people that are intimidating and cheating to get what they want, but that is some how alright and going to lead to unity.
I have never been more ashamed to say that I am a democrat than I am today. When the going gets tough, the politicians run away and give in.
Clinton releases delegates
By NEDRA PICKLER and DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago
DENVER – In an emotional meeting leading up to the Democratic roll call of the states, Hillary Rodham Clinton released her convention delegates Wednesday to vote for certain presidential nominee Barack Obama.
Many in the crowded ballroom yelled back, “No!”
Clinton, speaking a couple of hours before the nomination vote was scheduled, would not instruct her followers on how to vote.
“I am not telling you what to do,” she said. “You’ve come here from so many different places having made this journey and feeling in your heart what is right for you to do.”
Clinton told her loyal followers: “I want you to know that this has been a joy. Yes, we didn’t make it. But, boy, did we have a good time.”
Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, an Obama supporter, said Clinton’s challenge in getting her delegates to come on board with Obama “may be the biggest test of her leadership.”
“If she’s not a strong enough leader to get her followers to do what’s right for America, then that would surprise me,” McCaskill told the AP. “I think they are going to follow her lead, and her lead was very crystal clear last night.”
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McCaskill is a real piece of work…read the last statement in the article……UGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH good grief!
Well they are starting in just a minute on CNN with the roll-call.
I respond to Hillary’s email, I have to remain true to myself, my beliefs and conviction. This is what I wrote to her.
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Dear Senator Clinton,
I’ve watched your speech last night, it was brilliant! I’ve supported and campaigned for President Bill Clinton in the 90s, I did the same thing for Al Gore and John Kerry and now you. I always believe when a person cast their vote they based it on their beliefs and conviciton, whoever get their vote that candidate MUST earn their trust.
You’re asking me to do something totally against my beliefs and conviction, I’m sorry to disappoint you, I can’t be in lockstep with you when it comes to Senator Obama. I own my vote, my support for you is non-negotiable, non-transferrable. Although I’m a lifelong democrat, I do not believe in toeing the party line when I know the candidate selected by my party to represent me I do not trust, the worst of it all, my vote is no longer sacred. I don’t believe in following blindly, I am not a sheep. There is something that supersedes loyalty to my party, it is bigger and more profound; loyalty to my country. I love America, I embrace the US Constitution like a bible, I will NEVER betray my fellow Americans for partisanship. I will never trade my love for America over political affiliation. When voice of the people are no longer heard, democracy is dead. When the DNC and Obama treated you unjustly, Obama intimidated voters in Caucus state like Texas, I draw the line. I am now standing up and speaking out for my fellow Americans whose voice were muffled and their right to vote were coerced through intimidation.
You’ll always have my support but I will NEVER jump off the Cliff with you supporting Obama, but expect me to be there at the bottom of the Cliff waiting to catch your fall with first AID KIT. I respect your right to support Obama, but please don’t ask me to walk that short plank with you. My loyalty towards America has more weight than loyalty to the Democractic Party. I will work ten times harder to defeat Obama; we don’t reward malfeasance in this country, we punish them.
God bless you Senator Clinton and your whole family, I’m very proud of you. You’ve done your fight, now, we will take it from here. We are not giving in, we are not giving up! If not this year, then its 2012. I’ll vote for Senator McCain this November, America is better off with him than Senator Obama whose resume would fit in 1/8 sheet of paper.
Sincerely,
xxxxxx
PUMA Democrat
gordana…………
Judas is on Fox -hahahhhahaahahahahhaha
I laugh so hard everytime I see him. he was so hoping he would get the nod
WOW WOW A delegate on FOX now: I am an American first, and if it comes down to party or country, I will vote country.
FOX…..delegate HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Delegate for Clinton on fox talking to Neil C saying he will not switch his vote to BO and he says he is on the fence as far as November goes.. He is voting Hillary TODAY.
Hillary – the classiest lady I know. Regardless of the outcome of the roll call, she’s already a winner.
1309 Headclunker
I will be patient, however the information from Denver has not been going forth over the past 3 days almost 4 days.
1293 blondlady
I thought that too. Could indicate something is up!
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If this post makes it I am done for the day until new thread. Took 7 times and reload is endless.
CNN………HILLARY DELEGATE NOT HAPPY SHE IS NOT ON TICKET. SAYS HE IS AN AMERICAN 1ST, DEM 2ND
Good Afternoon ! On FOX they just showed that with FL and MI Hillary wins the popular vote by about 287,000!
1012 pink puma
Hey, I’m Greek, I can ask the gods for a special favor?
They might listen to me
Fox getting info from delegate for Hillary.
He compared this DNC convention to that problem with “Russia and Georgia”.
Do I smell an insurrection, defection, walk out???
He was a Hill delegate. When Cavuto said Obama or McCain, he said he cannot say right now as he is still a HIll delegate. But Ilike McCain, and I think he would be good forthe country. Mike his name was
According to my local paper (the seattle times – “postman on politics”), our own state party chairman has spent all week telling the Clinton delegates to ‘get on board.’
thugs, all of these dnc people.
sly
texas tigress is having internet problems but I can talk to her on the phone
THANK YOU DRAGONFLY
I’m an American First……Party Second…….
Experience Will Reign in November!
1313 virginia.puma
ditto
NEW THREAD PLEASE MODERATOR
Hillary delegate on fox news said he will vote for Hillary said she said vote your conscience, the guy also indicate that he will put COUNTRY before PARTY meaning he’s considering McCain….Keep emailing those delegates and ask them Country befor Party
PLEASE, give us a new thread, we are bogged down here!
Beautiful letter, Asian4Hillary!
HEY MAC – finally made it to California
Roll call 3 minutes away. Take your bathroom break now.
#1331 Caracal Carrie Oh thanks
1317 Asian4Hillary
Cool letter, I just wrote something similar to yours in response to their email.
If Hillary had lost fair and square, then it would be a different story.
1315 vargasforhillary @@@@@@@@@@@@@ very well said !!! very well
re#1327 bruce
yeah!!! ask the gods to send me some tasty baklava and suvlaki!
#1316 GBPuma
From GBPuma’s post:
….“If she’s not a strong enough leader to get her followers to do what’s right for America, then that would surprise me,” McCaskill told the AP. “I think they are going to follow her lead, and her lead was very crystal clear last night.” …
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Her lead was clear and I plan to follow it. She told us to fight and not give up.
I’d like to see Bill stick the final nail in the coffin of the DNC tonight! He doesn’t realize how big of a hero he would be for doing it.
I turned off the TV right after Hillary’s speech. She made me so proud. She overshadowed everyone else there.
She was glowing… amazing speech. From the moment she took the stage, tears were flowing like crazy. She endorsed bo as she had to, but she showed the world that she should be President.
I loved the shots of mo. Her eyes were so full of hate.
She is jealous of Hillary. I can see why; Hillary is everything she will never be.
I loved the look of adoration from Bill. I think I saw a tear every now and then..
The roll call today is a farce. They will stop it at some point, and say that bo won by acclimation. Why even have it since it is meaningless..
I imagine Bill won’t be on until 1:00 a.m. or so. Anyone have a time for him?
Then I am done. I don’t want to see anymore of this planned convention.
I will always be for Hillary; I admire her so much. My husband even said that her speech last night was the b est he had ever heard.
I can not do as she ask. I can not vote for someone who has no experience.. I will vote for McCain.
I would suggest to all of you to read “The Case Against Barack Obama — The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate” by David Freddoso.
He talks about bo’s association with Rev. Wright and the terrorist Bill Ayers. (Why was this never investigated?) What bo really did for convicted delve loper Tony Rezko (he’s the one that arranged for bo’s million dollar mansion.)
It is a great book..
I plan to fight with PUMA till the bitter end.
HILLARY IS MY HERO…
Fox News reporting 15 minutes ago Hillary met with the delegates , may be only New York, and said:
“I AM RELEASING YOU BUT I WONT TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE, IF YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA,VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, IF YOU ARE LOYAL TO ME VOTE FOR ME,”
Hey McCAskill , Listen up!!! we Have thought about Obama principles and claims and McCains principles and claims and there is no comparison!!
principles Obama -1%
McCain – 5 years, 1000%
claims Obama – delusional -1%
McCain realistic 100%
#1317 Asian4Hillary
Lovely letter
good lord !!!!!!! the MESSIAH IS HERE !!!
this is the biggest bunch of corrupt GARBAGE I have ever seen……..I am completely DONE with the DAMN DEM PARTY. LAW SUITS SHOULD BE FILLED ALL OVER THIS DAMN COUNTRY !!!
obama is about to land at denver intl airport.. i hope the INS is there to check his VISA..
I can’t post can’t refresh. I will be surprised if this makes it.
Good morning~~~~Again. This bug has really knocked me down.
1123 ladyhawkke ~~~That’s always a distinct possibility, but the way this election is going I don’t see any need.
So we are about to see the benefit of all our efforts in re; delegate letters.
Washington state is going to vote early.
For me I started out supporting Senator Clinton. That was my primary goal, To get Her elected,but the more I learned about Obama, the more I realized that I did not want whoever is pulling his strings and giving him the money to buy out our democracy.
When i wake in the morning my thoughts are first and foremost about God,family and then country. I cannot support a man that doesn’t believe in the principles that I believe in,so for me it is easy.
It is country before Party,it is Honor before dishonor. This man refused the bible,refused his own race in favor of terrorists,he has shaken the very foundation on which our country was founded”THE RIGHT OF OUR GOVERNMENT,OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE,BY THE PEOPLE”
SOME OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FORGET THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE WE CHOSE THEM,THEY HAVE SOLD THIER RIGHT TO GOVERN US BY ALIGNING THEMSELVES WITH A LYING,CHEATING WRETCH OF A MAN.
SENTOR CLINTON I CANNOT ,I WILL NOT SUPPORT HYPOCRISY.I WIIL NOT VOTE FOR BARAKH HUSSEIN OBAMA,NO HOW NOWAY.NEVER
I WILL CONTIUE TO FIGHT FOR MY FAMILY,MY GOD AND MY COUNTRY,IN HOPES THAT TYRANNY WILL BE ABOLISHED.
I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR YOU SENATOR CLINTON,BUT ITS NOT ABOUT PLATFORM IT IS ABOUT TRUTH AND RIGHT AND JUSTICE FOR ALL VOTERS IN OUR GREAT UBITED STATES OF AMERICA.
GODSPEED HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.
GO PUMAS…….
.Pelosi, Dean and Obama need to go on vacation. I still believe in miracles. I am a nervous wreck today. Saying my prayers and hopefully Wizard, Stephanie and the Delagate (from Virginia?) are up there working together on this
do we watch fox, cnn, or what? what is the best station to watch?
Fellow PUMAs, I, for one, will never regret this noble fight we waged.
Murphy, Mama, Maryland, et. al. stood up and challenged what we now know is a deeply corrupt DNC and made a significant difference. Together we opened many eyes to the rigged system and provided a peaceful, intelligent avenue to begin addressing our grievances.
Releasing the Hillary delegates may be just the spark needed to light the torch that enables people to see how rotten our politics have become.
Let’s keep our chins up and see what the rest of the day brings.
Have to admit that something about Claire McCaskill makes my skin crawl — seems Stepford-brainwashed by the Messiah’s Kool-Aid.
re#1350 kendal..
yessss!
lets throw in a nice obscenity law suit for good measure
In FOX an “angry” Hillary delegate (Michael -something) was just saying he still voting for Hillary today and even implied that in Nov he might vote for McCain over BO (said he didn’t want to go on the record at this time with his preference).
1350 KENDALBLUE ~~~I tend to feel as if the Democrat Party is done with me. And I will reciprocate.
Thanks Virginia.puma! Yes, Gov. Jindal is a breathe of fresh air next to BlancZERo.
HEADS UP PUMA … roll call is about to happen!!
#1306 virginia.puma on 08.27.08 at 4:47 pm Mick ~ my thoughts are with you as well. You’ve got a great Govenor down there thank heavens.
Some delegates have said they have voted already (Mississ) and others are still voting (Washington)?
August 27, 2008
On Today’s Program
Olbermann continues to gush
All eyes were on Hillary Clinton last night as she gave the speech that Obama supporters hoped would establish the party unity they so desperately need. Apparently, judging by the reaction of democratic mouthpiece MSNBC, Keith Olbermann expressed much relief as he proclaimed ‘grand slam’ and then, apparently feeling that wasn’t an exciting enough description added ‘grand slam out of the ball park, across the street, over the buildings’. Glenn wonders, what will his reaction be to Bill Clinton…or Biden..or the Holy One himself (Obama)?
Speaking of holy—pictures have been leaked of the Obama stage for his convention speech. As Glenn says, it’s at worst a Greek temple—at best it’s the White House. Is this guy arrogant or what? Of course, it’s hard to blame him for getting a big head when members of the press are constantly bowing down before him
This is from Glenn Beck
I am watching my mother in law today and she is watching TV Land , Gunsmoke etc. so will someone keep us posted on Convention.
Puma’s
Let’s take our anger and frustration of this moment and use it to fuel a PERSONAL COMMITMENT moving forward.
Remember how you feel right now. Remember – so when we face this tyranny in the future we remember why we must keep running and never quit. May our children never experience what we see today.
This just in:
Hillary’s delegates are ready and packed to walk out.
How does everyone think the rol call will go? Is there still hope for our Hillary?
Any good news lately?
What the heck is Major Garrett rambling on about now, he said something about BO will win the nomination folks have no doubt or delusion of that. Please tell me someone heard that and dummy up wtf he was saying.
“If she’s not a strong enough leader to get her followers to do what’s right for America, then that would surprise me,” McCaskill told the AP.
McCaskill just said it all and he doesn’t even realize it…. She IS a strong enough leader to get her followers to do what’s right for AMERICA… and that is to make HER the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!…
GO HILLARY!
Blue Blue Gal……….If you want the truth and not all the obozo gushing, watch FOX
I’m not abandoning Hillary. She campaigned in every state during the primary and allowed everyone to cast their vote. She did not quit even when she was pressured in almost every way possible to do so. She’s not a quitter. She must be discussing her options with a whole group of people right now (including Bill).
i cant think right now i am so mad i am crying
So she released her delegates…why not last night? TThe DNC must have put the screws to her big time to get her to release her delegates when they realized they’d have to go through with this roll call…
Oh Max I can only HOPE!
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/6524
Lawsuit Filed Against Obama Claims He’s Not Eligible for the Presidency
#1368 slyt2
I heard it. went in 1 ear and out the other. la la la la la
Hi, Just got in.
I wont even try and catch up. I suggest that everyone move back downstairs. Only 739 post there and this is closing in on 1400. Maybe we can keep posts directly related to the convention down stairs and everything else up here? That way late arriving pumas can find the info they need.
fox news is letting all these obama clowns spew their obama garbage..its making me ill
#1356 Blue Blue Gal I only watch fox news the others are to in the tank for BO.
#1366 maxgrader please tell me how you know that???
If the delegates are walking out, that’s the best news possible.
There are many delegates just like us on that convention floor. I offer this mediation for this moment in history:
Image you are a delegate. Image your passion. Image us standing beside each other on that convention floor. Image us standing up, holding hands, hands raised in the air. Image hearing each name being called. When they come to your name, image saying, “My name is LaNita Jean Jones, and I proudly cast my vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.”
Imagine. Envision. Light that candle. We are asking those delegates to say their names loud and clear. We should do no less.
I wish Bill would take Hillary’s hand tonight and say “Bye Bye DNC.” We Clinton’s are independents now and Hillary is at the top of the ticket!
#1356 Blue Blue Gal
Don’t usually watch it but C-Span may have all the action without commentary etc but FOX, of all the stations, will probably have commentary that will not upset us as much as other networks
I am back from work. I see its Roll Call!!!
Woooo hooo!!!!!
mick…………… I really like that Gov Jindal. was hoping McCain would grab him up. he’s impressive..
PUMA ROAR
I think we should email the media with a message.
Is Obama “afraid” he won’t get nominated if he has a “fair” Roll Call of all the states?
It shows he’s weak and losing the support of the American people and democrats.
Obama is showing us that he doesn’t want UNITY, and he is not ready to lead.
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My physical therapist is from India he is here on a work visa I asked him if he could vote who would he vote for and he said John McCain because he had heard too many bad things and saw video’s about Nobama. I told him some things he did not know .
Greek Temples were erected as “Houses for the gods”
Double Yuuuuuckkk!
Can you spell OVERREACH, PUMAs?
1. To reach or extend over or beyond.
2. To miss by reaching too far or attempting too much: overreach a goal.
3. To defeat (oneself) by going too far or by doing or trying to gain too much.
4. To get the better of, especially by deceitful cleverness; outwit.
1382 redtumble…………. me too
Blue Blue Gal, I’m watching FoxNews. I can’t handle the “obama lovefest” on CNN and MSNBC.
re#1373 rabble..
its all about timing..the DNc wants to have obama elected and then have him make his grand entrance to make an impression on all those mindless morons out there that watch american idol and other such garbage
Call to order!!!!
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/6524
Maybe Obama realizes that
Submitted by FAR (not verified) on August 23, 2008 – 6:23pm.
Maybe Obama realizes that he’s soon to become toast because of the Philadelphia lawsuit. Here’s an excerpt from an interview yesterday aft. with the lawyer (Philip Berg) who filed the suit:
“Sen. Obama really owes it to everyone to confront this. He should threaten me. “Berg,” he should say, “here are the documents and, if you do not withdraw the suit, I will sue you.” Right now, he has no basis to sue me. If he does have the documents, he should show them, and I’ll walk away. I’ll withdraw the case. But, again, he must show me a certified vault copy of his birth certificate and must show me a certified copy of the oath of allegiance taken between the time he was 19 to 21 at a Consulate, U.S. Embassy or the like. If those documents can be presented, again, I’m out of here. But I don’t think he can, I don’t think he will, and I think it is a total disgrace on his part.”
I estimate that if Obama/his campaign can’t produce this stuff in 48 hours, he’s history. (And history shows that it’s the cover-up/lies that are the worst!)
“If she’s not a strong enough leader to get her followers to do what’s right for America, then that would surprise me,” McCaskill told the AP.”
So, the conclusion one would draw based on what Claire said would be if we don’t fall in line, Hillary is not a strong leader? Please, we are not little children easily manipulated. Claire wishes she has one ounce of what Hillary has. Last time I turned on the tv, I heard people chanting Hillary Hillary, so Claire can just stuff it.
ROLL CALL ALERT!!! Standby …
OKAY PUMAS! HERE IS OUR OWN ROLE-CALL VOTE:
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
wontbackdown
I have a suggestion for all PUMAS
It is time to send out all the positive energy possible ….to start the chant now and to call every friend u know to join in……
HILLARY….HILLARY….HILLARY…HILLARY…HILLARY….
i just turned fox off..
this clown convention is making me puke
I have decided not to watch the roll call. I will just get to mad and sad and mad again. Well check on here later to find out what happen. Weather Channel here I come!
pink puma,
I wish!
Hillary is my hero too, she’s class, intelligence, goodness, fairness, caring.
I would follow her to the end of the earth.
Only one thing I wouldn’t and couldn’t do even if I tried, and that is to vote for NObama.
Neither my brain nor my hand could do that.
And all because of all the hatred and unfairness on his part against her.
Oh, lookie!!! Cowie came out of his hole.
I’d vote for Karl Rove or George Bush before I’d vote for BO.
we should send mccaskill an email and ask why nobama isnt a strong enough leader to get our backing This is all bull Mafia tactics
Hi everyone,
I heard that Pres. Clinton will not be staying in Denver for 0’s speech tomorrow.
howard dean on the podium now…
watch it on c-span
1386 nhforhillary: I just sent a prowl to the media from you list
Why can’t just one damn reporter say it why won’t he have a fair roll call ?????????? Because he is scared she will win that is why!!!!!!!!!!! It is as obvious as the nose on their face this is fixed it’s been fixed and that is because he lied and cheated to win this and he will keep doing this till he is sitting in the White house which won’t happen.
there you have it…….no vote
that seer, fortuneteller whatever
the video that was posted here some time ago
said that HILLARY would come out victorious
after the 27¡¡¡¡¡
CAN OUR DREAMS COME TRUE¡¡¡¡¡????
Watch CSPAN you won’t have to listen to all the crap being said
#1400 Bruce5555
And what about his disrespect towards Bill? 0 still refuses to apologize for calling him a racist.
Bill Clinton’s speech is only going to be 10 minutes. The news man said I have heard Bill clear his throat longer than that.
Let’s all work locally to take back our beloved Party for the next election cycle. Let’s throw the bastards out (DNC leadership). We should be proud of the delegates that held tough and for all our fellow PUMAs. We shall overcome!
now is the time…. invocation… everyone to the TV’s…
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
Ashleigh (MountainSong)(Living Grace)
Finally getting a chance to check in and wow this place is hopping.
((((((NewOrleans Puma)))) prayers are on the way.
re#1412 NM
that’s an excellent idea!!
Hang tight everyone. This is just Round One coming to a close. We’re more organized today than we were 3 months ago. We will refocus our energies and carry on the fight.
PS Firechief – Your post up thread reflected what they showed on CNN a bit ago: Clinton delegates being quite strongly urged not to have any “drama” pertaining to their votes. Lord, the last time I checked reflecting the will of the voters in keeping with one’s commitment as a delegate to vote in good conscience wasn’t “drama”! What the DNC has created, now that’s drama!
Hang tight everyone. This is just Round One coming to a close. We’re more organized today than we were 3 months ago. We will refocus our energies and carry on the fight.
PS Firechief – Your post up thread reflected what they showed on CNN a bit ago: Clinton delegates being quite strongly urged not to have any “drama” pertaining to their votes. Lord, the last time I checked reflecting the will of the voters in keeping with one’s commitment as a delegate to vote in good conscience wasn’t “drama”! What the DNC has created, now that’s drama!
1401 LivingGrace…………. me too.
sorry you are sick. I didn’t know…I have a bug to, it’s some sort of nasty gutter flu..I think they call it the BOVIRUS !!
If the delegates have met among themselves and they got the tally already and this roll call is merely to present that result for each state – how is this an open roll call? If each delegation met behind closed doors, there’s lots of opportunity for arm twisting…how is any of this democratic? Am I missing something?
#1379slyt2,
I’m listening to Hannity and at the top of the hour (4:00 CST) the announcer mentioned the roll call was about to begin and that Hillary’s delegates are ready to “walk out” if it is called off after only a few states.
P.S. Sorry I can’t post more quickly. My computer cannot handle all these posts on one thread. Consequently, some don’t take and I have to redo things. Frustrating.
WONTBACKDOWN…
I AM COMMITTED!
I am so glad I was able to come to Denver and PROTEST this abomination of a nomination. Sorry for all PUMAs who were unable to do so- Things that come hard are the most enduring. Thanks for having my back, Puma Pac! I felt lifted, inspired, and committed to a just and Democratic cause.
don’t think you’re missing anything rabblerouser.
Just saw that Hillary relased her deligates. I know she was forced to do so, but it still makes me sad. I hope the deligates still vote the will of their state.
I’m holding on to all the hope I can. If not, I’ll be voting McCain.
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
Linda from Texas
obimbo , his team & DNC
are coverd with a rob of s**t
maxgrader…………….Thank you. keep us posted
I would not be surprised if Bill Clinton spends some time in his speech talking about how he is not a racist. That is very impt to him.
I have been reading some of the older posts today and I feel like I should make my own personal comment. PUMA members got together to help Hillary’s debt, we got together to help our PUMAs to go to Denver, we helped to represent the 50 states with signs, we did prowls, and growls, and whatever else we each felt we could contribute.
I see some eloquently written posts here with undermining subtle messages with slight tinges of a threatening demeanor. I see some that are trying to give us educational rationale and implanting seeds of doubt.
My vote is not for Obama. Nor will I waste my vote on a third party or stay at home. I can go to another site to make any donations I feel represent me the best – the same thing that others can do. Why will I vote the way I do? To save what is left of Democracy in the United States. I will be with PUMA for a long time. This isn’t just for one “moment in time.”
ARE they going to tell HOW OBAMA got the nomination by all the illegal activity his campaign was doing????
holy SHNIKEYS ….look what James Carville is up to!
he’s wearing his PUMAS @ the convention!!!!
((((((((((((((((( LoL ))))))))))))))))))
http://justsaynodeal.com/
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
4hillinca
#1396 wontbackdown
I agree!! BO cannot remove all the American flags from the White House! We must stand together to ensure he never gets there!
No matter the outcome of today……IT’S NOT OVER!!!!!
#1421 maxgrader that’s fine and I trust what Hannity says thank you for posting that.
#1422 michelle47 Hello.
I will work with all my being, all my energies, all my heart to defeat Obama in November if this continues as the sham it has been.
anna7000, yep it is frightening the amount of energy the DNC has expended trying to suppress dissent in our PARTY.
i don’t recognize ‘my old’ party anymore.
everyone, everywhere should be completely alarmed.
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
Lotts1948, Texas
If you’re watching fox tv turn the channel because they are doing the nomination speeches for Hillary now.
Bill Kristol mentioned how Bill Clinton was the ONLY Democratic president to win re-election since FDR, and perhaps that should count for something. Someone should have told Obama that you don’t bite both hands that feed you. Bill is leaving Denver before the big O’s speech tomorrow night.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/27/clinton-releases-delegates/
I have FOX on and the roll-call is starting… I can’t do my work or concentrate on anything else, even though I know the outcome…
Still, can’t help harboring a secret wish… Now my eyes are watering as the national anthem dominates the convention.
This is our “symbolic catharsis” alright! It’s a catharsis of anger so it can fuel an even stronger resolve to the PUMA mission… and to defeating BO, who represents everything that’s wrong with our Party!
bring on john mccain
1419 KENDALBLUE ~~~ Sorry you are also ill. I’ve heard that BOVIRUS is fatal to nations and the only cure is for individuals to be innoculated with free elections.
Here it is
#524 doctore
plas,plas
it is the biggest true
AND IT IS THE BIGGEST SHAME
bush has shown more resPect for the iraquies voting rightS than DNC
Hey slyt2!
is hillary going to come on and request that the roll call be ended by acclamation and that obama be nominated..I sure hope not..
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=179256&title=healing-clinton-supporters
The BARAKAPOLIS!!!!
Whoa!!! How much did Nancy Pelousy pay for that FACELIFT?????
I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m crying so hard I can’t stop. Is anyone blogging? I can’t listen to Obama’s nominating speeches. This is so wrong. It makes me feel so sick to be watching this horrible sham unfolding. Help. I need some support…
re#1451 virg..
more like barfapolis..
http://video.newsmax.com/?assetId=V2943938&s=al&promo_code=68A0-1
take a listen if you can stand DICK !!
I start wearing RED tomorrow. What a farce–the Democrats have lost me for a long time.
What about all the illegal activity of the OBAMA campaign in order to get more votes???? The caucus’s? Are the delegates for Hillary going to let it be known??
BLECHHHHHHH! I’m low on TUMS, crap!
clinton’s nominating speeches sounded so strange. like they know it’s in the bag for obama. and there applause was so weak. i’m so upset. anyone out there????
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
It may be time for each of us to sign up in our respective states to become a delegate. Think of what we could have done here.
Did you notice that the nominator for HRC did not say “I nominate Hillary Clinton for President of the United States” but something like for “support of the Presidency of the US” and as she did so she twisted her mouth as though she felt uncomfortable. The seconders supported HRC nomination (but not for President) unless my bias blocked my ears.
I guess they were told what to say. sighhhh
Okay at the bottom of the hour this just in from the radio (By the way they have delayed the roll call. It will now start in 30 minutes):
Hillary will stop the roll call when New York is called upon. It will be a reaffirmation of her support for Obama by her and the people of her state.
Not another mention of a walk out this time.
I WILL REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE “PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION” CAUSE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AND DEFEAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S “SELECTED, UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE”:
TNhillaryvoter
#1366 maxgrader
Unfortunately a walkout would just be an empty protest, since their votes are already recorded. If the media reported it maybe it would make a point about the rigged vote, but not much else.
Anna7000, I’m here….just so disgusted with this whole sham.
I know that after this nomination farce, I will be after OHIO and I will be voting for McCain.
I just can’t understand how people can be so stupid and blind.
BARAKAPOLIS
Built for Photo Op……Times, Life, Newsweek…….Convention center not good enough!
Hours ago, on Neil Cavuto, a California delegate said, “Oh, I already voted this morning in my hotel.”
Cavuto…just acted like there was nothing unusual about it.
I can see that not all the delegates are on the floor and I read that a lot of them left.
It’s already been decided that it is Obama as the nominee.
Huge mistake, now we’ll have four more years of republicans in the White House.
We need a new post because it takes forever to refresh the page because of all the comments.
Anna~ I have been taking your advice all week….
b.r.e.a.t.h.e…….. there is more to be done!
But I too am crying, I feel as though I have just lost my beloved Country.
X6 tries
1453 Anna7000
Anna 7000 you are a leader. You’ve demonstrated a tremendous capacity to bring people together in thoughtful discourse. You have a right to cry right now and go ahead.
You have been tireless in the pursuit of what is right and you are an inspiration. I believe you will show us great things as this movement progresses. You have been outstanding on this blog and we need you in the future!!!
Have your own cathariss. It’s healthy!!
Love
Aloha
I can’t watch this farce.
My heart yearns for true democracy, I never thought I would be saying that in these United States…..
I will NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA!
Seals my vote for McCain.
thank you everyone. and thanks for your persistance in trying to post. this is the worst, just the worst.
Well look at that wasserman This is unreal
Floridians, remember to vote Debbie Wassermann OUT
Donna Brazille said she’s already voted, and i just heard on Fox that the delegates did vote earlier in their hotel room. So, what we’re seeing now is just a show. They already know the outcome, and that’s why we’re not hearing much out of the Hillary supporters.
OH COME ON, stop with all the speakifying and get to the freakin’ ROLL CALL!!
Well, Fox says there are hillary people with HRC t shirts and grim faces-I’m so let down-I have to go to class now, mercifully.
Stay together. BBL
I had that emotional meltdown yesterday. I’m all cried out and was kinda prepared for this.
GBPUMA – just skimming your list of legal violations. Makes me think: I wish we had Gloria Allred here – can a group of constituents or a pac, bring a class action against the DNC?
Beyond this convention and this general election, we have to work to see this never happens again. This way to corruption has been introduced, and it will get bigger over time until people rise up. Is that going to be now, regardless of the election – - or is it going to 10 years on, when we truly resemble a fascist state?
How dare her when he was the reason they were given half a vote Any floridians i hope you remember this
1453 Anna7000
(((((((((( Anna7000 ))))))))))
Keep running, Anna, keep running.
#1475 go_Ohio_Lady
As a Floridian I have no problem voting them ALL out!
Is this America? puma new party,any takers?
i can hear obama’s nominating speakers in the other room. they sound so polished and passionate. hillary’s nominating speeches verged on embarresssing. oh, why watch or even listen??? thank god you’re all hear. my husband is at work and my cat is fast asleep. all my neighbor’s and friends are in the bag for bo. it gets lonely.
i can hear obama’s nominating speakers in the other room. they sound so polished and passionate. hillary’s nominating speeches verged on embarresssing. oh, why watch or even listen??? thank god you’re all hear. my husband is at work and my cat is fast asleep. all my neighbor’s and friends are in the bag for bo. it gets lonely.
anna7000: Hang in there:
There is an epidemic spreading fast: The BOVirus:
There is an antedote, but we are going to have to take it for 4 years: John McCain.
Wasserman should be voted out
how does one become a delegate???
Anna7000 Anna, I hope you quit crying, I was answering your post above. We must keep strong, stay together and fight. We are family and will will take care of each other. This is a sham and as I’ve been repeating, Obama is The Fuhrer and if he wins, this will be Nazi Germany.
I played tennis with my league this a.m. and had to walk away from one of my team mates because she was “horrified” I was not voting “Party.” I said, no I’m not, the DNC is corrupt. What is wrong with people, they will vote party, not person. I’m voting for McCain, not my first choice but the lesser of two evils. Stay strong, fellow Pumas.
Geraldine Ferraro on FOX, after they reported a delegate stating that “This wound will never heal…this is only temporary (the reconciling).”
What about all the illegal activity OBAMA’s campaign committed in order to get more votes???? The caucus’s? Are the delegates for Hillary going to let it be known??
#1481 rtr4hill
Don’t worry this isn’t Florida’s first offense. We have years of ammo against them!!!
StarDust stand is with Puma!!!
Praying for Hillary and Denver Pumas!!!
Denver Pumas must be in chaos right now or they surly would have reported in on something.
My mother is in her 80’s….a lifetime Dem…..voting for McCain….
She said Obama not ready!
1453 Anna7000 @@@@ I make stupid jokes and show anger here, but I have been tearing also. I know it hurts. It is so unfair what has happened in this country.
All Ii can say is that you are not alone. We are are here for you. We are all a team, a family, and we have worked so hard for DEMOCRACY. YOU have done EVERYTHING posible here to bring about change. And I for one am grateful for you being here with us on this journey. The journey that has made a DIFFERENCE. We have been heard. And we will keep marching forward for fairness … A BUG HUG FOR YOU RIGHT NOW…SENDING IT NOW……….
Oh Anna
I am sorry I did not see your post – we are here with you – crying too – this is such a farce, such a sham, where did transparency go?
We will regroup and we will work to make sure they remember Denver in November and beyond that we will work to take our Party back.
Well, we have to remember that PUMAS made a lot of noise. The 18 million Hillary supporters will not fall in line. Not today, not tomorrow, not November.
Let Barack Hussein Obama have 2 months of celebrity fame. Millions of Americans WILL NOT vote for him.
John McCain camp, her I come….with millions of others!
I see the only way to teach this democratic party of corruption a lesson is to vote a straight republican ticket, which I personally will do.
I am here, Anna. I shed all my tears yesterday, so you can lean on me, as we have leaned on you, as we have and will continue to lean on each other. You have been unfailing in your service and inspiration to the rest of us. This is a sad week, but we must not waver under fire. We have the perseverance and fortitude, together, to continue fighting and bring this tyrrant down. There is no dishonor in falling down, only in not getting back up.
Be proud of your tears….and lean on our love.
I can’t wait till the PUMAs unite and get Wasserman kicked out of office. That’s where we have to direct our anger…at each one of these traitors. We need to make a list:
1 Wasserman
2 Wexler
3 Pelosi
4 Clayburn
5
6
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8
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One at a time……
test
Watching the roll call now. Why does BHO have several people to second his nomination and Hillary only has one?
#1475 go_Ohio_Lady
As a Floridian I have no problem voting them ALL out!
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ditto
WHAT?? Arthur Davis said Obama, “will stand for the rule of law” …. Riiiiiight!! Guess he didn’t get the memo.
Sorry ANNA, not much help here.
I have completely lost it myself. My heart is broken and because of this posting situation our ability to contact is also diminished.
I keep trying – 7
1445 LivingGrace…………. amen sister !!
1453 Anna7000
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thank you so much everyone. i didn’t expect to meltdown this way. i guess this is it. this moment. the thing we didn’t want. the thing we dreaded. it’s shocking on some level to see it unfolding, even though, mentally, i figured it would. the reality is very very hard to absorb. but, i know this will pass and i’ll be even more angry than i was before and will bust my freaking butt to make sure obama is not elected. sorry for causing any unncessary drama. really lost it, but i’m pulling myself together, thanks to all your support.
thank you so much everyone. i didn’t expect to meltdown this way. i guess this is it. this moment. the thing we didn’t want. the thing we dreaded. it’s shocking on some level to see it unfolding, even though, mentally, i figured it would. the reality is very very hard to absorb. but, i know this will pass and i’ll be even more angry than i was before and will bust my freaking butt to make sure obama is not elected. sorry for causing any unncessary drama. really lost it, but i’m pulling myself together, thanks to all your support.
thank you so much everyone. i didn’t expect to meltdown this way. i guess this is it. this moment. the thing we didn’t want. the thing we dreaded. it’s shocking on some level to see it unfolding, even though, mentally, i figured it would. the reality is very very hard to absorb. but, i know this will pass and i’ll be even more angry than i was before and will bust my freaking butt to make sure obama is not elected. sorry for causing any unncessary drama. really lost it, but i’m pulling myself together, thanks to all your support.
thank you so much everyone. i didn’t expect to meltdown this way. i guess this is it. this moment. the thing we didn’t want. the thing we dreaded. it’s shocking on some level to see it unfolding, even though, mentally, i figured it would. the reality is very very hard to absorb. but, i know this will pass and i’ll be even more angry than i was before and will bust my freaking butt to make sure obama is not elected. sorry for causing any unncessary drama. really lost it, but i’m pulling myself together, thanks to all your support.
We are going to have to meet this battle in the field – fight him at his own game plan. Take it to the streets, spread the word with flyers and point them around the mainstream media and to the TRUTH!
roll call is starting now…
HERE WE GO!! Prayers!!
And their alotting Bill only 10 minutes to speak? This is a twice elected president who “reigned” over one of the best times in America in the last 40 years and that arrogant SOB gives him 10 minutes to speak?
Bring on McCain…
PUMAS … HELLO!!
Keep it up… it’s working!
Keep it up… it’s working!
Keep it up… it’s working!
Keep it up… it’s working!
please will someone leave a post here saying that we have gone back downstairs – i’ve been booted out/off/unable to refresh, etc. i emailed mama, maryland and murphy asking for a new thread.
MURPHY MURPHY MURPHY
PHONE HOME – WE NEED A NEW THREAD!!
Geraldine Ferraro said she will take the primary campaign sexism (by the media because whe doesn’t want to admit it was the DNC too) to a university in PA who will issue a report on it.
germond participated in that farce of may 31, where the dnc put the entire country thru so much agony…only to finally grant florida and michigan full votes, something that hillary had been calling for since day One.
ive seen more enthsiasm at a funeral parlor
IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM MARYLAND PUMA::
ATTENTION ALL PUMAS: A RELIABLE SOURCE IN DENVER HAS TOLD HER THAT WE NEED TO KEEP FIGHTING!
IT IS WORKING!!
THREE SEPARATE SOURCES STATED THAT HILLARY TOLD HER DELEGATES “I CAST MY VOTE FOR MO”
SHE TOLD HER DELEGATES “I RELEASE YOU TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE(SP?) AND ON WHO CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!
At this time Maryland Puma is very busy getting last minute things taken care of. She wants everyone to know that just as soon as she can breathe, she will be on the blog to let you know more.
Please stay together and stay strong. She has so much to do that he head is spinning right now. She is trying to pack up etc. but she wanted me to send this message out to you.
Maryland Puma’s Mom
Wassermann-Schultz just said bye bye to her political career.
Thinks she can buy the Jewish vote for the Imposter. I don’t think sooooooooooooooooo!
KEEP THE FAITH
greta
BY THE LAKE Be careful what you wish for. We should all vote dems on the down ticket so McCain won’t control the whole Congress, it will keep him honest and in line.
I’m having a posting problem too 5
GROUP HUG:
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Remember today. This, too, shall pass.
Crap crap crap……………cheaters………liars……..dnc……..
1501 Blue Blue Gal
I hear you Blue Blue Gal, Do we need to send you a rope or something? Did you get too close to the Puma Never Never Land edges?
PUMAS… take this torch… do not forget those who have forgotten you!!!
Hey everybody, I’ve been here since almost day 1 possible it was day one I don’t remember. I read the blogs daily religiously. But I don’t post often.
But today…….. I am really mad. You all know why.
Together we will get stronger. I am bound and committed to PUMA and believe me I preach every single day, every chance I get.
Lets do it PUMA’s . Lets chase them back into the holes they crawled out of. Lets show them they haven’t seen nothin yet. We are more than we even realize. I for one have decided no more TV today. I resolve to start going after my state delegates tomorrow. The govenor, Senaters, Congress, Assembly, legislators all who originally chose Clinton but allowed themselves to lie even to themselves to nominate NONAME.
this is a very sad joke
this is a very sad joke
this is a very sad joke
what a freakin joke, this is fixed
WHY DON’T THE DELEGATES POINT OUT THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY OF HIS CAMPAIGN???? THE THREATS, NOT LETTING PEOPLE VOTE, STEALING THE CAUSUS???
#1521 Crusaders Cross Fight how, now? They are having a roll call, it’s over, the delgates gave their votes gagged from their hotel rooms. We have been bamboozled!
I am sitting here watching the TV and the convention. I wish something drastic would happen to change things, although I know nothing will at this point. I can only imagine how Darraugh must feel. This lady put her heart and soul into this movement, and she has the entire nation looking over her shoulders. This little lady from Mass set out and kicked ass! She made the PUMA the most vicious animal on the continent. Darraugh, we thank you for all you have done. No we won’t! Grooooooooooowwwwwwwl!
(((((((ANNA7000))))))
Your NOT alone, there is great PUMA love for you, shed those beautiful tears they are healing.
I’m not voting for any Democrat responsible for this farce. No spines.
Maryland Puma’s Mom – thanks for the update; we’ll keep fighting. We’ve only just begun…
MURPHY~~~~ We need a new post now! No comment…just a post. We are hanging out to dry here
X9 attempts
now i am crying
1523 ladyhawkke, won’t work for me….I trust McCain over Obama hands down.
now we see who has balls …not too many it seems..really puke i-fying
Crusaders Cross
please we new new thread immediately tell someone
I think we need to get a PUMA ring tone for telephones. No we won’t! Grrrrrrrroooowwlll! Can you imagine all the phones ringing.
arkansa 40 votes for obama
right this is bullshit
did they have the hotel vote ?????
BigCatLover:
But if a walk out occurs, then party disunity is displayed for all to see. Could lead to other things.
They are singing “Give Peace A Chance” at the convention presently . I think it’s Melissa Eldridge.
More on the roll call vote in a couple minutes.
CALIFORNIA PASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This thread is too long and it is taking forever to scroll to the bottom is there a trick?
Oh God….. Hillary won CA
# 1521 Crusaders Cross
Thank you for your message from our troops on the ground in Denver.
Dances with Puma – It working – I hear you!!!
California passes? What does that mean????
what is this crap about CA passing??? how can they do that?
Doing the roll call & it’s rigged……………bastards
they all need to lose their delegate status..omg! this is sickening!
I am sooooo Mad!
ARKANSAS XO +47 CLINTON 0
HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE.
I still think she should never have given up and campaigned for him. When Ickes said she was going to take it to the Credentials Committee, she should have and if she lost there, she should have then taken it to the floor. The unity thing screwed everyone up and confused the issue. What are her delegates to do when she says she supports him? Even Stephanie Tubb_Jones, when I called the office, they told me she was supporting XO because Hillary was. Therein lies the whole problem, the unity thing. Bad news.
My State California PASSES – I am so ashamed. we have too many votes it could upset their plans
I can’t type any more I can’t see…tc all
I am going to throw up really truely this is sooo sicking i can’t watch. Why would California pass and where the heck are all these mad delegates who are gonna stand up for Clinton chicken sh*ts each and other one of them.
MY GOD!!! CLINTON WON ARKANSAS BY 38% and THEY GAVE ALL DELEGATE VOTES TO OBAMA!!!
Califrornia are cowards, PUMAS pounce!!!
this is a miracle–california passed on casting any of their 441 votes–not 1 vote for bo-he’s not going to get 2210 without them
how can cali pass?
okay I’m going to try this again. I didn’t think it was possible for me to be angrier than I am. However, I am TOTALLy appalled that a nominating speech began with “as a registered republican.” When delegates were REPLACED because they didn’t punch their UNITY ticket, it is unbelivable that a nominating speech started out with “as a registered republican.” Also I would like to point that the little punk kid from tennessee can’t be a “registered” republican because WE DON’T HAVE PARTY REGISTRATION. So, Obama’s nominating speech started out with a damn lie and flew in the face of the purpose of OUR democratic convention. This is unacceptable.
I DON’T KNOW. SHE JUST TOLD ME TO TELL YOU GUYS EVEN KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON. MAYBE SHE KNOWS SOMETHING WE DON’T OR MAYBE THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY.
I DON’T KNOW WHY SHE WOULD TELL ME TO TELL YOU THIS IF THERE IS NOT MORE.
THERE ARE THINGS I GUESS SHE COULD NOT PUT OUT HERE. SHE WANTED ME TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT I WROTE AND I WROTE IT EXACTLY AS SHE GAVE IT TO ME.
WAIT UNTIL SHE COMES ON THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY
KEEP THE FAITH! You know it is not over until the election ANYTHING can happen. Hopefully she will be on soon.
I told her that you need a new thread and she will be on as soon as she can. Please bear with her!
Don’t Quit Before the Final Buzzer
In one of her speeches toward the end of the primaries, Hillary said something about it being foolish to quit before the final buzzer. It was a great analogy for anyone who loves sports.
A team that gives up because it’s behind in the third quarter is bound to lose. But a team that sucks it up and digs deep for everything it’s got has a chance to win in the end.
This particular game isn’t over until the elections in November. Yes, it’s the third quarter and we’re down as far as a team can be. But we’re not out. There are many things still in play, like the Phil Berg lawsuit. There’s still a chance that Obama will foul out before the election.
Stay strong, Pumas.
And they’re only giving Bill 10 minutes????
WTH!!!???
I believe CA passed so that it will give New York the chance to ask for acclimation from Hillary. You are allowed to pass and come back.
“A new CNN poll, conducted Saturday and Sunday, showed that 27 percent of her voters now said they supported the Republican candidate.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/27/dnc.main/index.html
I think that 27% is getting ready to skyrocket way up.
this is not democracy
Did you all see Arkansas cast all their votes for BO? I think that’s what I heard. And that is what happens when Hillary releases her delegates, otherwise they would have been in her favor after the party chairman was shot. What a farce.
Don’t let this destroy us. We must, we MUST let this roll off like water off a duck’s back, and direct all our energies now on going after one individual alone. We know Obama has skeletons in his closet. We just have to find the right one. BEFORE the November election!
I think we need a new thread.
Screw the Democratic Party! History goes down that this Party is OVER!
From Fox news earlier…BO will have a very hard time getting votes from women over 50….I’ve heard more from men lately who will not vote for BO!
This roll call is a sham…I’m embarrassed to say that I have ever been a Democrat…I’m giving my protest vote to McCain…then I’m changing parties to Independent!
#1549 – - Will California step up Virginia-Puma??? What do you think?
if florida votes for obama you know this is fixed
THE WEATHER IS NOT GOOD HERE AND I MAY LOSE MY CONNECTION
PLEASE EVERYONE………HANG IN THERE!
IT AIN’T OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS! There has got to be more to this story……..
God Bless
CALIFORNIA JUST PAST!!!!!! THATS IT THIS IS WAR!!!!!!!!
THE FIX IS IN!!!!!!!!
DEMS CAN GOOOOOO TOOOOOO HELLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!
We all need to go downstairs. This is too full and is taking forever and during this time we can’t together. I’m heading down. Hope others will follow.
Florida???And why did CA pass?
THEREFORE THE DEATH OF THE GUY IN ARKANSAS HAS FAVORED OBIMBO??????????????
AND PROBABLY THE SCANDAL OF NY GOVERNOR????’
I am seeing what they are doing now….they rigged a deal that rather than just do all their votes for Obama they are alloting each state with the minimum amount for Hillary…………
What a major major fraud they are trying to pull…this was all prescribed before hand…..and my money was used to pull off the greatest fraud ever on the American people……….DOWN WITH THE DEMOCRATIC STALINIST PARTY FOREVER….THEY DESTROYED THEMSELVES………THERE IOS NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES AND CRIMINALS……….
And these are the people that writes the laws that we are expected to obey when they can’t even have the integrity to obey and follow their own rules and charters………..
Get YOUR money back from the DNC and the States that defrauded you and where party to this fraud.
Check your state statues…if you are a binding state there are fines and penalties for the delegates not voting according to the Primary Presidential Preference voting allocation and their delegate pledges registered with the state…….
arkansas. what a slap in the face. as bad as when senator byrd endorsed obama within hours of clinton winning west virginia by huge margians.
dances. how, oh how, is this “working”????
and who is this freak who’s moderating the roll call. she acts like some barbi doll come to “life”
Someone else said they were going dowstairs because this thread is too slow. If you know where they went could you let the rest of us know please
He thinks he is a greek god! He is a slap in the face to all women of all races! He used the African American people and they ARE starting to see that. I will work even harder to turn votes-and that I promise I will do!
Calif passed so the tally board wouldn’t show her in the lead. They reserve the right to cast their votes later, but that won’t happen.
Just remember we’re here to fight no matter the outcome of the “roll call” We knew there was a good chance of a dirty vote.
PUMAs did not come this far to quit!!! We cannot take this one vote as a loss for our whole cause. There is still work to be done.
Cal passed so at NO time will Hillary surpass Obama
How does it feel to know your vote didn’t count!? Now everyone knows how Floridians feel. I don’t want that to sound mean it’s just the way it is.
traitors! all of them
so the woman who won the most primaries in history, will go down on record with a scewed number diminishing her amazing achievement? what’s new?
Hello, dear PUMAs,
This is a sad day, but I think the truth will out. I will take time and we will keep fighting to defeat Obama so we can send a strong message about the obamination! One good thing, is that Hillary can has had her moment in the sun and doesn’t have to put up with all of the continued nastiness that she endured during the primaries. She is the hero! The Republicans will take care of Obama. I for one will cast my protest vote for McCain and will work to defeat the Democratic (and I use that term loosely) Party. We all knew this was a done deal, so take heart, the fight has just begun!
What the hell… 1 vote…they make me sick
Maryland said:
SHE TOLD HER DELEGATES “I RELEASE YOU TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE(SP?) AND ON WHO CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!
“who can win in November.” And California passed. I’m the most cynical person I know and I’m not giving up.
We all know it is rigged or we wouldn’t be having a roll call. They know what the final tally is because they made them tell them who they were voting for BEFORE the roll call. Dean & Pelosi were intimidating. I actually mentioned something to Phil Berg about a class action lawsuit against the DNC but I don’t think it would hold because they make their own rules and the judge would throw it out.
THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSE TO GO!!!! THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO RECOUNT AND LOOK AT THE CROOKEDNESS!!!!
Has anyone ever witnessed a democratic fraud like this before?
I can’t believe the AUDACITY of these assholes – they really think that a rigged roll call and a big presentation with the precious riding in his chariot wearing a toga with a laurel wreath around his head – they can start HOPing because this does it – I’m with Bill – the convention is done for me and I will do everything in my power to see that he is defeated in November
I need a Hero! I need John McCain to repair the corruption in Government! He will deliver the corrupt right to the American public once President-that’s for sure!
1588 is correct. They would not let CA vote so that Hill would not be ahead even momentarily. Murphy explained this on radio.
The MSM used this same tactic in 2004. They would not count NH until Bush’s totals surpassed Kerry’s so Kerry would not be in the lead even for a moment.
Obamathugs learned well.
How is anyone gonna say this is fair, I am soooo done totally totally done.
I am now MORE MAD THAN EVER! This roll call is sickening and disrespectful to ALL VOTERS!
We better take note for November to take all those who cheated down if they are up for election!
What a farce is right! More of the same B.S.
California PASSED!!! Too Many Votes for her.
Can’t embarrass Obama!!!
I can’t wait to vote for McCain. And thats it, I’m not even voting down ticket.
Can’t type what I want to say, I don’t use that type of language, but y’all can imagine.
1556 ladyhawkke – Hillary’s strategy is probably to get him defeated in the GE; she knows she can’t fight the DNC at this point – she wouldn’t have won, they’re too powerful. But when you join disaffected democrats with McCain’s campaign, that could defeat BO. And 4 more years of a republican the country will be more than ready for a democrat.
I am disgusted with the corrupt process — it’s the gift that keeps on giving. This roll call is a complete farce.
Onward fellow PUMAs — our work is just beginning!
Some folk have gone downstairs to
Delegates Mad as Hell: Scramble for Floor Vote
because it should not be as slow down there
the AA should very mad & furious @obimbo
he has portrayed himself as their mirror
to begin with
he does not represent them(he is not AA)
they are NOT corrupted, as he is
THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT TWICE
This is terrible. Time for a new political party. Maybe that is why this whole thing happened. . . so a new one would be born. PUMA sounds like a good name to me.
Has Florida spoken yet? I can’t watch.
I can imagine how Bill will look tonite after this show! I hope he sends the party to HELL!
I know President Bush and all Republicans cannot believe that Democratics are allowing this flat-out in your face deceipt! They are talking about it on Political radio stations all over. They even said that it was so bad that Hillary had every right t leave her Party! I agree.
I did! Anyone who votes Dem. should be ashamed of themselves!
MARYLAND PUMA IS DROPPING WHAT SHE IS DOING AND IS GOING TO SET UP A NEW THREAD
HANG ON EVERYONE!
Downstairs isn’t working either……
Well, guys and gals, we know who’s going to come out the winner after this “roll call” is finished. They skipped the CA and IL. I wonder if Texas is going to pass. All this unity garbage may work in the convention, but the fight is on after the convention is over.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!!!!
This is just making her look so bad I would have never ever asked her to put her name in roll call had I know this was going to happen , this makes her look like so unpopular she is getting like 2 points to his 40 points and so on. I would not wish something like this on my worse enemy.
Does anyone else think this is rigged??
I say rain McCain $10.44 who will match??
Our governor makes me SICK. Kentucky went solid for Hillary and he just cast 24 for HIllary. I will NEVER vote for that poor excuse of a democrat again. The delegates are all chicken crap. If they cannot stand up for what’s right, then they need to be voted out next time they up for election.
The sheep have herded themselves into the pen and the world has heard the first shots of the American Revolution II.
I am disgusted with the corrupt process — it’s the gift that keeps on giving. This roll call is a complete farce.
Onward fellow PUMAs — our work is just beginning!
Dang, we need a new thread. I’m having trouble posting.
Why did CA pass?? Didn’t they vote for CA?? What about IL??
This is really sad.
OH man the Secretary just made me physically sick she wanted to have Guam repeat and she said “We democrats count our votes just right.” VOMIT!!!
What is the latest on Berg’s Lawsuit or the Obama have that quelched too?
OH man the Secretary just made me physically sick she wanted to have Guam repeat and she said “We democrats count our votes just right.” VOMIT!!!
What is the latest on Berg’s Lawsuit or the Obama have that quelched too?
The reason CA and now IL are passing are because they are so large and have too many votes that they would not get through all the states with the amount of votes they were told to cast.
DNC and Obama
You have an angry Puma by the tail.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
The abuse of democracy we witnessed today will not stand. We will work in our communities, in our states, and across the nation to rectify this travesty.
A fox reporter saying that there are a lot of delegates out in the hall (?!) unwilling to give their support to BO.
“The problem for the Dems is how do you put meat on the bones?,” he said.
… In other words, HOW DO YOU FILL AN EMPTY SUIT?
They gotta find some gimmicks ’cause there’s little substance there. Like a “rock star concert” setting & atmosphere for his speech tomorrow, etc, etc…
are we supposed to be appeased by these few crumbs that are being doled out for clinton? only an idiot would find this a carthasis in any, way, shape or form.
no wonder the media and the dnc suggested the roll call could prove embarressing for clinton – cause they knew it was rigged and the votes would not be an accurate reflection of her many victories. at this rate, she might as well cut it short. what’s the freaking point?
i suppose the dnc will be mad at us now (oh, how scarey!) if we don’t fall in line cause now they can say her name was placed in nomination and there was a roll call on the convention floor.
deplorable!
OMG. Just gag me some more please. If it was not bad enough that my state FL did not follow the will of the voters, I just heard the Chairwomen say this to a state chair who mumbled:
” please repeat your vote, I didn’t hear you. It is very important that we count ALL the votes correctly”
Oh really? Let these imposters try to sidle up to the one and see where they end up.
I am in ladies and gentleman. Whatever is needed, whenever pumas need it. This is my country and I will damned before I will see it turn into Sorosworld.
Let them do their worst. They have no idea what is coming at them.
this is a coupe d´etat
What in the world happened with California? They abstained!
It is times like this that although I am a us citizen I am glad I live in Canada……what is going on right now ….is not my US of A…..
If this appears a few times = sorry – keep getting messages I am posting too fast.
What was Illinois passing all about? I swear if NY does what Arkansas did, I will never spend another penny in NY, no Broadway plays, no shopping, not one cent.
These two women are the type of people that support the annointed one, they have no brains, they are dimwits, koolaid drinkers. They don’t look happy, then why did they vote for XO?
I agree Rabblerouser.
BlueGrassTrina, call his office right now and leave a nasty message on his phone and call him a traitor. Or call the phone number for KY in the link below
The blog is sooooooo slow
We could do a mass phone call PROWL to the idiots who are allowing this to happen.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/conventions/co_20080821_3019.php
This entire convention is a disgrace to all the supporters of Hillary. Why did anyone even bother to vote to be decieved by a roll call vote from delegates that have been strong armed. This is such a sad moment in our history.
lovesdogs, I’m a Florida girl as well…I’m gagging with you!
# 1600 Zee – Well, lets hope BO hasn’t learned too well, and steal the election from McCain in Nov the way Bush stole it from Gore in 2000.
This is not even CLOSE to what the VOTERS voted.
These two women are the type of people that support the annointed one, they have no brains, they are dimwits, koolaid drinkers. They don’t look happy, then why did they vote for XO?
I agree Rabblerouser.
BlueGrassTrina, call his office right now and leave a nasty message on his phone and call him a traitor. Or call the phone number for KY in the link below
The blog is sooooooo slow that the comment I’m posting happened 10 minutes ago.
I keep getting service temporarily unavailable.
We could do a mass phone call PROWL to the idiots who are allowing this to happen.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/conventions/co_20080821_3019.php
Didn’t CA vote for Hillary? Why did they pass?
AND why is everybody giving a freakin’ speech?? Just give your vote and STFU!!
Sorry, I’m just upset that Obama is stealing this chance from Hillary!
backstabbing a** B*tches every god da*n one of them
1317 Asian4Hillary, A very beautiful letter. I wrote her one very similar to yours last week. We must stay true to oneself.
This election process has taught all these young first time voters that you can “break all the rules and win.”
am i seeing things or did they flip 20 votes somewhere between alaska and arkansas? or am i just so flipping mad i can’t see straight? hillary had 55 then went to 35 and barky gained 20 on fox? d*** criminal. travisty. over 30 years i have been voting democratic and have never never seen such arrogant criminality. right in front of our faces.
I think Big Dog should walk out and not give a speech….
Downstairs is the thread posted at the top of the page with the arrow pointing left. It takes you to the previous thread before this one started.
I feel the ground moving and Thomas Jefferson rolling over in his grave today from this fraud from the party he and James Madison founded so many years ago.
I agree it is time for the PUMA PARTY!!!!!
I’m just stunned. I cannot believe this sham. This is unbelievable. oh my god. “yes we can” NO I CAN’T AND NO I WON’T. Go to hell obama with your republican punk kid from Tennessee.
Talking about a historic convention of change my as@. What a joke this is. I am furious. I truly felt they would do what was right. What a bunch of crooks. They are Not doing what the voters wanted, they are on their on agenda. Puppets are all the delegates are. I hope Bill tells it like it is tonight, what in hell can do they do to her now?????? She has no party except PUMA. I will vote for McCain and do it proudly.
Not going downstairs. Thanks.
Is it at NY yet? Hillary is supposed to hand it all over when it gets to NY, and nominate him by acclimation, I think…is that the word.
Listen guys. The roll call is fake and we already know the outcome.
Everyone already submitted their votes at breakfast, and who knows how many of them left, and their votes were fudged with.
I am just sick of the whole the thing.
The thing is, Hillary gave a presidential speech, and everyone has thought…oh crap, why isn’t she the president OR the VP.
See, it’s just a mess for Obama. Hillary is leaving all this on a good note, with a LOT of respect from the USA. She will continue to be (my) NY Senator, and Obama will go on to lose the general election.
I don’t know how the dates for these conventions were decided, but the republicans lucked out or outsmarted someone by having THEIR convention AFTER Obama’s…not smart. Also, McCain deciding his VP after Obama as well? Bad news for democrats.
Anyway, McCain will only be a one term president, and if Hillary wants to run again, she will start again VERY soon. First she will get lots of work done in the Senate, and likely both she and Bill will each write a book. Hillary will work on abolishing caucuses in the meantime, and then…
Before you know it, the next presidential campaign officially starts again in less than three years. Time will fly, Pumas.
In the meantime, we should make sure McCain offers women more than he has. We should make sure to fight against sexism in the media (MSNBC), etc. We should fight to abolish the caucus system. We should fight against the superdelegate system. We should fight to have a shorter primary period, and there should be a ceiling on how much money each candidate can raise, and there has to be a serious media watchdog during political seasons. We will help those politicians who helped Hillary, and we will defeat those who attacked her or harmed her. I want Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Brazile, Reid, etc etc GONE. And soooo many more.
Time WILL fly. You will see.
From here on out, I can relax and sit back and watch the republicans rip Obama to shreds. I’ll laugh with them tomorrow night as Obama stands in front of his insane Grecian Temple (LOL)….
karma is a b—–.
How can BO think that the Arkansas vote will not be attributed to Bill Gwatney’s murder?
California is holding out.
LINK TO DOWNSTAIRS
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/08/26/delegates-mad-as-hell-scramble-for-floor-vote/#comment-123157
much faster
#1631 Mac, you are so right. I’ve never been so disappointed in my life. These people are disgusting. They’ve just thrown the opportunity for a Democratic President under the proverbial bus! He’ll never win in November. He is just too inexperienced and although we have a bunch of crooks running the party, they are not running the American Voter!
omg puma we have to fight harder than ever to elect john mcain ,i am so sorry to say it but that is it the dnc robbed us ,
nobama not now not ever
we have to start campaining for mcain , we cannot allow this communism to continue
god please be with us all
THIS IS MARLAND PUMA MOM PROTECTING HER CUB
IF YOU GUYS WILL JUST HANG ON SHE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE THREAD. DO NOT GO DOWNSTAIRS OR SIDEWAYS.
SHE WILL BE ON AS SOON AS SHE GETS HER COMPUTER UP AND RUNNING (A CRAPY COMPUTER AT THAT) GIVE HER A D_ _ _ MINUTE!
#1 639 cosmo – Well, when Bush stole the election from Gore it was right in front of our faces, right there on national television and no one did a thing. Maybe that was precedent setting; now it’s a free for all and anyone who can get away with it does…
same old same old for women. even after great achievements, you have to step aside and politely accept whatever crumb is offered. i’m sick. clinton’s candidacy was symbolic for so many, including women. what do we say to our daughter’s now?!*
This is what Hillary was afraid would happen, that her 1800 delegates would not be recorded for history. I hate that bastard for stealing this from her, along with Botox Nancy, Coward Dean and Brazilla Gorilla.
Geraldine Ferraro said after the election we must tackle the wrong that took place, the media’s part in this and the sexism that was allowed. If we don’t then our daughters and granddauthers and all females will never have the opportunity to progress. (paraphrased)
I don’t blame Bill Clinton for leaving after his speech. I would not stay around for the Coronation. It’s just too difficult to sit and watch knowing it should have been Hillary. It nauseates me just watching this. I can not tolerate this injustice. Hillary needs to just step in NOW and stop the roll call. It’s just a sham.
I will NOT watch Biden or Obama’s speech.
Want to make a statement immediately following the convention tally? Say the amount of votes for Obama is 1921 and Hillary gets 1084…. We all immediately donate $10.84 to McCains Campaign fund, compliments of PUMA. Also have Darraugh construct a letter knowing why the money was given and what the amount of each donation signifies.
I was of the understanding that in the bound states , it didn’t matter if she released the dels or not – the voters own the votes , and the pledged dels had to vote for Hill for up to 2 rounds …. What happened ?
I was of the understanding that in the bound states , it didn’t matter if she released the dels or not – the voters own the votes , and the pledged dels had to vote for Hill for up to 2 rounds …. What happened ?
this whole thing made me sick.
it was the system and supreme court who stole algore the presidency
but this is worst than Zimbabwe
#1655 NEITHER WILL I (I will NOT watch Biden or Obama’s speech)
Kat, well stated!
I am embarrassed of the democratic party.
Ohio will not let you be an independent until after a primary, then I’m through with them.
You got internet!!!!!
#1656 good idea
I am marching to McCains HQ on Saturday, walk in and say “Hi, I’m a Hillary voter.” I need say no more.
Thanks I’ll let the other group know Crusaders Cross.
Don’t worry about being a protective Mom. We are just about all Moms here too and if you didn’t stand up for her just about every Mom here would.
NEW THREAD UP
TAKE IT UPSTAIRS!
BE NICE TO EACH OTHER.
GIVE A WARM WELCOME TO ALL NEW PUMA PAC MEMBERS.
AND LOVE EACH OTHER – WE MUST REMAIN UNITED AND STRONG AND SET AN EXAMPLE THAT IS ADMIRABLE.
texas tigress – if my understanding is correct, per murphy and trish’s research, contrary to what jbjd has posted, only oregon is binding.
I’m going to the McCain site to sign up now.
These people are absolutely crazy!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
He cannot win, cannot & will not, period. Why are all the lemmings jumping off the cliff????
I am waiting for Ohio’s votes. If they give the majority to Obama, I am going to scream loud enough for all of you to hear!
Prophecies all said this would happen. We are living in that moment Right now! Stay together PUMAS! We will always have eachother-no breaking away. We will be crusaders of justice!
As bad as this is to watch, it will be even worse if BO moves into the White House. For all the energy that all of her supporters have put forth, we cannot let this sham continue. We all need to unite and work just as hard to keep this liar from winning the presidency
#1628 invalidresponse
I have been considering moving to Canada and have been looking for another US Citizen moved to Canada. Would you be interested in talking to me about it?
THAT WAS A BIG SLAP IN THE FACE!!!! RIGGED LIKE HELL!!! CLINTON WOULD HAVE KICKED HIS AZZ AGAIN!!!
Fellow PUMAS, look at the design BO has made for himself to give his acceptance speech. This man is very dangerous for U.S.
NO HILLARY OBAMA WILL NOT BE OUR PRESIDENT OF US!!! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND I AM GOING TO FIGHT FOR IT UNLIKE YOU I WILL NOT COWARD DOWN TO OBAMA!!!!!
HILLARY HAS DRANK THE KOOL-AID I AM SOOO DISAPPOINTED IN HER….NOW TO DEFEAT BO!!!!!!
Believers:
Don’t loose faith. Too many of us, too many names to mention…have worked hard thus far. OUR WORK IS NOT FINISHED. It has just begun. I believe a good portion of the disgruntled delegates may not even vote for BO at the general election! BO still has to make it through to November, and the GOP has already a good start on the attack.
I agree with a previous blogger, HRC knows she can’t fight the powers that be now. She will fall in line…be there till the end….and reemerge in 2012. It is the ONLY WAY. She gave many clues in her speech last night if you dissect the words.
Remember HRC and BC are great politicians…they have a reason for everything they say and do.
I am very SAD, but on the other hand there is closure with this phase now…..Our true dissention and exposure of the fraud should begin RELENTLESSLY BUT RESPECTFULLY.
The GOP is waiting until 8/28/08 to start the REAL campaign they where hoping and planning for since HRC announced her bid for POTUS.
The DNC/ONC just commited political suicide. His polls will NOT pick up appreciably, if they do it will probably be a hoax.
Stay STRONG remember the PUMAS and other groups do have other agendas…the main one being OWNING OUR OWN VOTES, AND VOTING FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED POTUS FOR AMERICA. BO is not it!
McCain ‘08 HRC 2012
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
I AM SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!! AND NOW I’VE GOT TO LOOK AT PELOSI’S FACE! INSULT TO INJURY!
This was a F#$$ING mERCY nOMINATION!
The lines of division are drawn-I am sorry to those black Americans that are great intelligent members of society but I am so sick of BLACK this BLACK that BLACK is now my heart! My blood is boiling! Regression in effect! Not nice to pieces of shit in society anymore-get a job!
THANK YOU MARYLAND PUMA FOR TAKING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME AND LETTING OTHER VENT THEIRS ON A NEW THREAD.
I LOVE YOU HONEY. STAY STRONG AND REMEMBER THAT BABY PUMA AND I LOVE YOU ALWAYS.
YOU DID GOOD!!! Get some rest and May God Watch Over You and Bring You Home Safe.
Good nite all…………Baby Puma and I have done our part for this day!
Keep the faith and God Bless!!
I will never never forget what the Democratic Party has done. I would have to use too many expletives to describe what I think about them. Since we are trying to keep the blog clean I won’t go into it.
By the way-I say that as a 1/2 white 1/2 Puerto Rican having grown up in poverty but made a success of myself!
Now the Democratic Party begins to fall apart. Obama cannot win and the Democratic Party will be humiliated. They will know that the voters control our government and not the party elites. They will know we are not sheep to be controlled. This is the first step toward taking back our party!
Well folks……… The message is loud and clear. I vote McCain in November and wait for Hillary in 2012 and we don’t let us get screwed by the dnc, media etc. ever again.
My Dear PUMAS,
I sat watching part of the “Roll Call” tonight. I am disgusted by all accounts. The Farce was truly a horrible nightmare. I watch as all my hard work to get my boyfriend a former republican on to the side of the Democrats, blow up in my face. His anger is deep and loud. He will never vote democrat again. This travesty has caused deep wounds that will resound for the rest of our lives. I myself will vote for John McCain in November, and after doing that I will no longer vote. I have truly seen, that my vote doesn’t count. I have tried talking to my family over the past 8 years to turn them around and exercise their votes, as they have not been avid voters. Well I can assure you that I will no longer try to persuade them to exercise their rights as Americans to vote.
I am so torn up by how Hillary ahs been treated since the beginning of this farce back in January. The lies and cheating by the “Change & Hope” candidate. The blatant backroom dealings and bullying by the ODNC. I no longer feel that we live in a true democracy, but a democracy in name only. 18 million voices means nothing to the ODNC. It means nothing to the Mainstream Media. This selection, sans election, is beyond my ability to find & form the right words. Pumas, you have my support in backing John McCain and no other. After that, I am done with it. Good Luck in all you do, and thank you for your hard work & dedication.
Sincerely,
TexasPony
Video of John McCain vs. Obama
http://www.redstate.com/
PUMA for Mccain..do we agree??
This is a defining moment for Pumas- remember what Hillary said-keep moving forward. The picture of James Carville sitting with Wolf Blitzer and other CNN cultists for BHO, with his Puma sneakers prominently displayed, has given me reinforcement to keep on keepin’ on for as long as it takes.
PA holds on to guns and religion for a reason!
hillary told us to keep running..
you’re damn right were going to run– to john mccain!
we only wish hillary would have followed her own advice..
I agree to utilize my energy to keep BO out of the White House and support McCain this election term. I just left the McCain site and signed up. Does anybody know what would happen if it is prooven that BO cannot be President? Cannot this still happen?
Good job Hillary. I fined all this very interesting.
Now it is time for the McCain VS Obama fight. McCain has a lot of ammo now on the Democrats and Obama. He has us and me raped up in a red bow. Like a gift sent by Obama himself.
A seasoned politician will know exactly what to do.
Pink Puma, I think Hillary did the only thing she could do as the DNC would of ruined any political future ……
Hillary said keep running and thats what she is doing. She knows she can count on us to claim our vote as she can’t. She has 4 years to plan a victory come back and we will be ready this time. I start by helping to elect John McCain.
puma we need to stand united in a real way not a b/s/ unity pony way
this communisn must be stopped
puma we are soooo strong toghether and remember we have always said no matter what nobama
this was just one more knife in our backs by 61 and coward freakin dean
puma has just begun to prowl
god bless all puma and everyone in the path of that hurricain
be safe
We need to stand together and stand strong; our work has just begun.
PUMA IL
Well, our votes go to McCain! A no vote or vote for someone else is just a vote for Obama. If you truly do not want Obama as prez then vote for McCain….
Just our opinion…
McCain 08
PUMAS, we’re not through. And we wont be through for years. I guess Hillary has the hope that she will still have a political career with the Democrats. I very strongly doubt that.
I cant vote for McCain, and my state allows write-ins, so I will be writing Hillary in, and voting against all the democratic incumbents. Please check WriteHillaryIn.com front page where we have listed all the states and how they count write-ins. Very few states will not acknowledge and count the write-in for Hillary. It may not win the Presidency for Hillary, but it will act the way Nader’s votes did in the 2000 election, taking votes away from the dem candidate Gore and making Bush the winner. Write Hillary in taking votes away from Obama. It’s kind of passive aggressive, but I cant vote for a republican.
We have work to do. A lawsuit is in the works for Obama’s birth certificate, and if he’s not a natural born citizen, he’s out. Greta on Fox news is investigating Obama’s financial connections with bomber Bill Ayers. We have to work to make sure the facts come out about his shady dealings. Fox did a history of Obama rooming with a drug dealer, sleeping on the streets, not presidential material, and enough material to start further investigations on his shady past.
But beyond that, the work is to take the 18 million we are and start building a viable third political party, a real democratic populist party. And start writing Hillary begging her to leave the corrupt democratic party and come with her 18 million. Give her a few days before writing.
Here’s the good news. Latest poll, no bump for Obama from the convention. McCain ahead 47% to the Zero’s 46%.
It;s not over til its over – and we aren’t through !
I will never give up, I can and I will write her in! I sincerely hope it rains on his parade, so to speak!
blessings,
valleywitch
I say we all give $20.12 to PUMA and get started electing Hillary for President in 2012!
Go PUMAs
Oh how I wish the Clinton’s would go Independent. Supporting her in 2012 will be easy, supporting the Democratic Party will take a lot of work.
I can’t help but think we were sold out.
Let me guess now Obama will retire her debt.
Well I want my money back too!
There’s nothing hidden in all this stuff. You don’t have to read between the lines. Just look down at what’s being said all over here. But
Please let’s not
Have McCain president.
Our future depends on it.
Not that I want you to vote for Obama.
You vote your heart
Girlz.
Our lives have been hard.
People don’t know.
We are not pawns.
Everybody is an individual.
Bless us all.
Since we are all women
I want everyone to keep the faith.
The future is ours.
Every day my mother says:
Have you paid attention
Every day?
Remember: womens are the best, markola!
Easy to understand, not so easy to happen. Bless you.
I will never in a million years vote for Obama! I feel depressed…. ):
I’m having mixed emotions about this support of the Clintons. I know they had no alternative if they were to remain in good stead with the democratic party, but Hillary’s aborting of the roll call today was really over the top. Bill’s speech tonight was the kicker. I can think of no other presidential hopeful that had to endure this browbeating by the DNC. And they succumbed to the pressure. That truly bothers me.
(And I wanted to throw the remote at the TV when I saw the snarl on MO’s face — how friggin’ ungrateful!)
What does all this support mean if our votes were dismissed so easily. Didn’t Hillary tell us during the primaries that our votes were important? Isn’t that why she fought to the end?
I hope we have some recourse here –
Missy #1706, I feel the same as you! Especially, regarding MO; I can tell she doesn’t like the Clintons.
The Clintons have to play the game if they want to stay in politics. I think they absolutely love their party, which is admirable.
I did feel a catharsis last night because of the wonderful speech by the most skilled and eloquent politician of our times. But that doesn’t mean I’ll vote Democrat this year. Never again! Our mission now is to let the world know that we still say “No Deal” to Obama.
I wrote a blog yesterday. Feel free to comment.
“I’m Sorry, Did You Think We Were Going Somewhere?”
http://princessejen.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/im-sorry-did-you-think-we-were-going-somewhere/
Hi Puma friends;
I have desided to vote John McCain. I am an Independent hoping to smash that glass ceiling once and for all.
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