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August 24th, 2008 | Celebrate!, Denver, DNC, Puma PAC
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Where is the PUMA office in Denver?
You guys look great. Go Puma…………..
I think it is 1935 Delaware
1325 Delaware Street
#256 NobamaNetwork on 08.24.08 at 5:32 pm
PUMA PAC HQ, 1325 Delaware Street
That’s the address…..
Great pictures! be safe in there!
Waiting for news with baited breath!
Some more reasons why Biden was a particularly offensive choice for women:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/biden-and-anita-hill/
It is 1325 Delaware, sorry,
Thank you so much!
Thanks for updating the flier
Is it a good idea to have the address posted here?
Watch LIVE DEMONSTRATION RIGHT NOW IN DENVER!!
http://news.politicswest.com/livecam
#10 Notyoursweetie on 08.24.08 at 5:37 pm
Address of PUMA HQ is posted in previous threas.
DENVER — A man who tried to carry two hunting rifles and two pistols into House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s downtown hotel remained in police custody Sunday.
Pelosi and other guests briefly left the hotel during the Saturday incident but were never in danger, Secret Service spokesman Malcolm Wiley said.
The man, Joseph Calanchini, 29, of Pinedale, Wyo., faces a charge of unlawful carrying of a weapon. Police officers at the Grand Hyatt hotel noticed him carrying a rifle-type case at the entrance and detained him.
Wiley said he didn’t know if the weapons were loaded.
“The speaker was never in any danger and she appreciates the quick and professional response of the police,” said Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly.
When you’re getting an “error” when posting your comment, just click REFRESH it will post it. I never copy/paste. What happen there are many people posting at the same time as you, that’s the cause of the error. Just HIT REFRESH until it post your comment.
I hope that helps…:)
bbl puma’s……………..need to walk my dogs.
hq looks cozy. thanks for the pics.
halligan – saw your post from downstairs. what do you think? i’m figuring this grassroots movement will regroup and refocus on how to ensure obama is not elected. i’m hoping part of that effort will focus on the electoral map since that’s what it’s going to come down to in the ge. more important than general polling, in my opinion. so, i hope part of our efforts will be in those states that are up for grabs, or that are right on the margins and could be flipped from obama to mc cain. what do you think we should be thinking about or doing after the convention if obama is the nominee?
does anyone have a link to the PUKA schedule of events?
I went downstairs and told the Pumas we are upstairs. We’ll see if they all make it. May need another trip downstairs.
PUMA
#17 mesofree What’s a PUKA?
mesofreee – wasn’t it posted at the top of the thread a couple of threads back?
What’s this I hear, Senator Clinton will release her delegates on Wednesday? Didn’t she just tell us last week she wasn’t going to do this?
mesofree nevermind. I was typing when you were.
#209 #227 Diva
Please contact me.
I’ll have a look
Hi Halligan. We are having a downpour. How about you?
#22 Kerri, where did you hear that?
AP piece stating clinton to release delegates on wednesday. hope to god it’s not true:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080824/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_clinton&printer=1;_ylt=Aonuvm_v9sSnVx60xHvm6Hdh24cA
Read RiverDaughter post and see what their doing to the delegates
#16 Anna
I’m thinking………..but I need lunch. I’ll get back to you. If anyone hears from Diva, let her know I still want to get in contact with her. Thanks.
#26 Webfoot
Sunny this AM, now warm and drippy (a bit).
That is not our puma’s that the swat team has confronted is it?
#28 Anna7000, thanks for the link. I read it but won’t believe anything until the Lady in the pant suit says it.
Big hugs to all our lovely Pumas in Denver, thanks for everything: information and pictures, hoping you have a great and safe time, may the peace of the Lord be with all of you, and the rest of our Puma Pac members. Hi Goandersen, are you there ?
275 Anna7000
that is only a spokesperson – until i hear it from the hill’s lips – i do not believe
#32 Pookie, NO!
Webfoot
Diva is going to Denver. Keep your eye out for her and wish you the best for me. I’ve got to eat and you know why.
This is fantastic!
Ohio and Blue – I hear ya’. I feel the same, mostly. But, some press reports concern me such that they’ve inspired me to take action to be on the safe side. ugh.
When I go to riverdaughter’s page all I get is a grey screen. Anyone else having a problem?
283 ladyhawkke
i emailed Ricky and asked if she had a list
Folks, I think we need to face the facts that Hillary has to follow the “party” line. She’s trying to please us and still stay in the mix. It’s got to be incredibly difficult for her. Going to the convention, seeing and hearing O do the things that she knows full well she can do better as got to be the biggest insult of a lifetime. I pray for her to be strong and get through this. There will be another time for her.
They just said it on MSNBC about 15 ms ago.
hey – i’m lurking because i’m doing chores – when you state something and i take the time to go to the link and find it is only a spokesperson i get annoyed at my wasted time- please refrain from causing panic unnecessarily – my blood pressure can only take so much -thanks-
Hillary will do what she is forced to do. You can only imagine how much her and Bill are being threatened, by seeing how much her supporters and surrogates are being threatened.
That’s a classy place for PUMAs in Denver. Great digs, Murphy!
A reporter from Fox was trying to talk to some protestors in Denver and he could not talk to them because every other word was a curse word , they sound like obots how can you tell what they are protesting when they don’t speak a known language
Halligan, will do. I’m off and on the computer today because of the downpour.
MarylandPuma
You’ve got mail!
Great job Pumas!
Don’t know if you heard but CNN just confirmed Hillary releasing delegates on Wednesday!
Fox just reported Hillary is releasing her delegates, but Hillary has not said that. She is having a reception for them on Wednesday, that does not mean she is releasing them.
Let’s wait until we hear it from her before we all go ballistic.
###repost – Went to get some “real food”. Did not see move
213 Blue Blue Gal
I won’t – promise
lilibet on 08.24.08 at 5:29 pm
We are certainly making McCain a little happy. He certainly realizes that many of us Hillary supporters are going to vote for him if Hillary is not the nominee. He doesn’t even have to “court” us as it is sometimes mentioned in the Media.
We have known for a long time that Republicans saw Hillary as the more formidable candidate and so they preferred to have Obama win the nomination. We have evidence of how they aided in the process. In Wisconsin Obama was not supposed to win by a huge margin. The Governor of Wisconsin, an Obama supporter, even told him that it did not look good for him. Then look what happened. Republicans in droves went to the polls and voted for Obama! How could we ever hope to win with all these forces pitted against us.
Middle Age Female: I agree with you. It seems that after Obama was able to get to Florida delegates he then expressed himself in favor of seating the Florida delegates.
I’ve already submitted this 4 times, but it doesn’t move!!!!!
42 halligan
i understand your statement…but its just not in me to give up till im slapped in the face.
Hi, Murphy and Maryland,
When someone has a chance, can you please post an updated PUMA State Roll Call list? And can you tell us when the PUMA roll call is going take place? Thanks!
NYCgirl
Well~ I am still not voting for HObo. May have to consider my vote in 2012 more carefully I am so mad.
Pookie
The riot squad went after anti-protesters, not PUMAs.
Go to :
http://www.denverpost.com/live
for frequent updates
Thanks, webfoot #48
Cnn is reporting about the release of delegates right now.
#45 Prowl
You’re mightier than me!
Is the live feed we are getting from…
http://news.politicswest.com/livecam
….our People or what?
Whether or not Senator Clinton releases her delegates, we have a mission to defeat BO and kick out the corrupt DP officials. “We own our votes.” They are not going to BO.
Let’s get back to work!!!
Halligan,
Right here!
HILLARY TO RELEASE HER DELEGATES ON WED. JUST CAME OVER CNN – THEY ARE DISCUSSING IT NOW!
If Hillary realeases delegates, it still won’t change my mind.
I’ll still vote for the most experieced Presidential Candidate….not his mentor.
51 redraz9
thank you!
Why on earth do they think we CARE WHO supports Obama?! WE NEVER WILL! GODS! I’m mad as all get-out! >:|
#51 redraz9, I agree!! Just because they release them, it doesn’t mean anything…they could all still vote for Hillary!!!
jbjd
Are you lurking??
Sen. Clinton To Release Her Delegates Wednesday!
Though delegates can still vote for her, she will release them on Wednesday CNN has confermed.
Recent updates at http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Halligan???
Halligan???
Why is it always women who have to do all the giving they will still have the Roll call won’t they.
#56 I’m mad too. I still believe Hillary could win the nomination and that the supers will go to her. Apparently she is unwilling to do this. I felt this months ago but hoped she would stand up and fight. We have fought all we can, gotten over the 300 required signatures and she probably won’t sign the petition. The roll call is rigged, what more can we do? I know this movement is more than about Hillary, it’s about democracy and that is why we went on day after day. If she does release her delegates, I will feel she let us down. There comes a time when you have to stand up for yourself, no matter what. Look what Roosevelt did in 1932. I’m going to wait and see what she really does.
After the election, and years following …. we need to monitor corrupt DP officials and campaign to move them out. This Party needs an E**ema!
Whew – had to finish posts from this morning, then there was another new one, while reading that one, another new one is now up!!
Welcome New Pumas
Mzebest – let me know if you got your answer concerning the uninsured using the hospitals vs clinics. I don’t know a whole lot, but maybe enough to let you know what I heard.
#55 NYCgirl-nhhillary was creating the list. Maryland asked for the updated list yesterday because they were going to make the signs today. All 50 states are represented (some multiple times), plus Guam, Puerto Rico, France, and Canada. Plus soldiers, veteran’s and others. That’s all I remember. And, I think, the roll call is tomorrow in Cheesman Park.
I know it’s not the definitive answer Maryland could give you; just wasn’t sure if you had that info.
#74 diva2 on 08.24.08 at 6:07 pm
Halligan might be “out to lunch” now.
Try emailing her.
Remember – our movement is more than Hillary. We all knew there was a chance she would be forced/threatened to release delegates, and throw her full support behind BO. The party might also be holding any possible future for Chelsea over her head.
So, we will continue our battle – to defeat BO and redo the DNC – at least that is what I am here for!!!
Regardless of what they do at the convention, I know One thing for sure – Barack Obama will NOT be the President of the United States .
Yes, they all should still be able to vote. I think. But it might be difficult to stand and vote for someone after they ASK you to vote for someone else.
I understand that HRC was put in a position where she had become a shark for standing by her voters and representing them through the first vote, but…it still really sucks. As Kids just mentioned: why is it ALWAYS for the woman to sacrifice to ‘peace’?
PUMA’s, please keep the faith! Of all the stations to report anything about Hillary CNN is not the station to watch. They are and have always been in the tank for Obama.
I will never ever vote for obama, if Hillary is not the nom I will vote for Mccain.
IT IS NOW UP TO THE DELEGATES AND SD TO FIGHT!
If they have what it takes, they will stand up and demand Hillary be the candidate! It is SOOO OBVIOUS that he is not going to win!!!
Besides , this delegate info is coming from an ‘unnamed source”
These people are crazy. They really say that because the Clintons will speak in support of Obama we’re all going to fall in line! LOL, what the hell? How do they FIGURE?
don’t watch MSNBC or CNN . they have flipped for Nobama
52 MsBinMD
?what was i asking you not to let me forget? lol lol
hope your meal was delicious. real food?, as opposed to soylent green?, mickie d’s, the king?, again- lol lol.
really, fla is a state with a lot of retired ny retirees of a certain faith – wasserman could be brought around if a prowl could be organized – a well written letter re:bo’s stance on the middle east and her declaration of admiration/pledge to vote for him. if nothing else, maybe we could prevent her reelection. please keep on the blog, everytime i see you moniker, i will remember these posts. maybe i should write down the #’s so i know where to look!!!
#79 webfoot
Thanks for your answer! I just really want to make sure that my donation for NY State was received. There should now be more than one sign for NY.
NYCgirl
I am in Florida an I say no way obama.
Heading out for awhile, turn FOX on , at least you get honest reporting. BBL…
and I am an ex new Yorker
My brother went republican.
My 82 yr mother says Obama does not have enough experience.
These polls do not reflect how elderly voters feel. Party loyalty is disappearing……we need to look at qualifications and experience. Obama should have never made the running….just ask Biden : )
# 83 kerri – i agree.
obama only made it through voter fraud and cheating!
#89 Pookie
Yes, I agree. CNN and MSNBC should be boycotted for being in Obama’s pocket!
I just turned on Fox about an hour ago and they have been taking email from dissenters — including someone they called “Carol from Ohio” who identified herself as a PUMA! Also, Fox has been showing the demonstrations outside the convention center and interviewing some of the demonstrators.
So, I for one say “skip CNN and MSNBC”. I’ll stick with Fox and this blog!
NYCgirl
all i could find in Ricki Lieberman email…dang she is just too smart and has a lot to say..i can never get through all of her emails.
PARTIAL LIST OF STATES WITH VOTE BINDING LAWS
OK
W. A. Drew Edmondson, Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
313 NE 21st St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
VIA FAX: 405.521.6458
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate Oklahoma Statutes ß 20-104 Elections – Candidates
*********************************************
GA
Thurbert E. Baker, Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
40 Capitol Square, SW
Atlanta, GA 30334
VIA FAX: 404. 657.8733
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate O.C.G.A. ß 21-2-196 (2008)
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IN
Steve Carter, Attorney General
Indiana Government Center South
302 W. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
VIA FAX: 317.232.7979
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate Indiana Elections Code 3-8-3-11, Delegates to national convention; support of candidate on first ballot
*********************************************
KY
Jack Conway, Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
The Capitol, Suite 118
700 Capitol Avenue
Frankfort, KY 40601-3449
VIA FAX: 502.564.2894
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate Kentucky Revised Law 118.641 Distribution of authorized delegate vote among party candidates
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NH
Kelly A. Ayotte, Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
33 Capitol St
Concord, NH 03301
VIA FAX: 502.564.2894
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate New Hampshire RSA 659:93 Apportionment of Delegates Notice
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OR
Hardy Myers, Attorney General
Oregon Department of Justice
1162 Court Street NE
Salem, OR 97301-4096
VIA FAX: 503.378.4017
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate ORS Title 23, ß248.315 Selection of delegates to national convention
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MA
Martha Coakley, Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
One Ashburton Place
Boston, Massachusetts 02108
VIA FAX: 617. 773.6901
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate M.G.L. c.53, ß70I. Delegates and alternate delegates to national conventions; voting for president on first roll call
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TN
Robert E. Cooper, Jr., Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
P. O. Box 20207
Nashville, TN 37202-20207
VIA FAX: 615.741.2009
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate TCA 2-13-317 Binding Effect of Presidential Primary
*********************************************
Wooooooooo Hooooooooo Hi Pride! What is the scoope today? anything good?
As Pumas, it is our job to show the nation that this party and its voters are not united behind BO. He is unqualified, corrupt, and unfit to be the President.
Let’s regain the offensive and complete our Prowls. The MSM is in the tank for BO.
Go Team Pumas!!!!!!!!!!
OMG PLEASE HILLARY DONT DARE RELEASE YOUR [[OUR]] DELEGATES WE HAVE FOUGHT TO HARD FOR THEM !!!!!!!!!!
WE WILL NOT EVER FALL IN LINE FOR BO OR JO NOWAY NOHOW ME AND AT LEAST 10 OTHER FAMLY MEMBERS WILL VOTE REP. FOR THE 2ST TIME IN OUR LIFES !!!!!!!
BHO AND MO SAT IN THAT CRAZY ANTI- AMERICAN CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS !!!
AND THEY HAVE TREATED HILLARY LIKE CRAP AND SAID THEY DONT NEED HER SUPPORTERS WELL A DARN GOOD THING BECAUSE HE WILL NEVER GET THEM !!!!
HE IS A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY
A THUG , RADICAL NUT WITH CRAPPY JUDGMENT NO WAY !!!!!!!!!
HILLARY R. CLINTON 1ST THE TRUE WINNER
JOHN MCCAIN 2ND A TRUE AMERICAN HERO
Doing the same here #98 NYCgirl
Mjoynaples Did you find your way upstairs? Can I get an AYAH!
Well it only takes one SD to stand up to this corrupt system we have. Just one strong person!!! I did my prowls today but guess one more email to the delgates is in order. Denver is a beautiful city and I just want everyone to stay safe.
We don’t know that Hillary is going to release her delegates. The media may be reporting that but I haven’t heard Hillary say it or any of her “surrogates.”
The fact that she’s having a get-together with her delegates to thank them and release them doesn’t mean she’s necessarily going do that. She could be getting them together to tell them she’s NOT releasing them and to vote for her for all we know. It would be a great way to get them all together without raising the suspicions of DNC creepos.
I may be being hopelessly naive or optimistic here, but we’ve heard so much bs about how Hillary had bought her ticket on the Unity Express and I have yet to be fully convinced.
I don’t believe it till I hear it from her own lips.
Yesterday morning on FOX a delegate for Hillary was saying that he and all the Hillary supporters he knew were still going to vote for her. Fox (was it Cavuto?) then said “but she is going to release her delegates” and the guy got irritated and said ” I don’t care if she releases them or not, none of us do. We are going to vote for her because that is what we want to do.”
I just got a letter from the FL Dem Party announcing that the FL delegates had all been seated. What did I do, I blocked any further e-mails from them.
Rendell goes off over Obama loving media coverage
Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell was supposed to give “closing remarks” during this afternoon’s Shorenstein Center-sponsored panel discussion with all three Sunday show moderators — NBC’s Tom Brokaw, ABC’s George Stephanopoulous and CBS’s Bob Schieffer — but instead, he opened up a can of worms about bias in 2008 election coverage
“Ladies and gentleman, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing,” said Rendell, in the ballroom at Denver’s Brown Palace Hotel. “It was embarrassing.”
Continue Reading:
http://countusout.wordpress.com
Email to Cavuto
I tried this to the link at yourworldlive, but kep failing so I just sent it to Cavuto, also sent a similar one to Chris Wallace.
Thank you for for keeping all the info coming our the convention and especially for talking about the Hillary supporters and PUMAS. We appreciate you taking the time to truly understand that it is not all about issues but also about character and the outright fraud and cheating of Obama, the DNC and RBC. The reality is he stole Senator Clinton’s votes by purposely cheating in the caucases and primaries. If he would have let the process go as it was suppose to, Senator Clinton would be the winner. He is not a winner, but a loser who tried to win by lying and manipulating the system. Now, he is going to be an embarrassment to the party because PUMAS are going to do everything they can to ensure Senator Clinton gets a fair vote for nomination at the convention. Hopefully, with all the states now investigating the voting fraud and many being charged with felonies, it would not be a surprise if Obama was also charged in the next few months. By the way. PUMAS have a special documentary showing tonight at the pumapac headquasrters in Denver. See the proof, know the truth!
Finally, just want to say, Obama sent out a letter to pledged delegates telling them they must vote for him on the first vote. Be aware in at least 7 states that it this is iillegal. According to state law, they are REQUIRED to vote for the person they are representing on the first vote. “All delegates to the National Convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.” I would even ask you that you publish this information so the delegates get an accurate message instead of one asking them to break the law.
Thank you again for making the effort to understand our side.
Re: Ego or Ignorance
Mike Gallagher, Talk Show Host, was interviewed by Fox. He said not consulting/vetting Hillary was one of the biggest bungling we have ever seen. Women will bite Bo in the bu–. Whether it resulted from ego or ignorance, it is difficult to explain.
they said earlier he was talking to Hillary and Bill. Prob.threatening them. Capone Jr.
#90 Blue Blue Gal – Don’t forget what he wrote in his Audacity of Hope book , “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Someone should remind wasserman about that – her constituants will not find it amusing …
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If she does it… remember that she has to do it!–
…WE’LL PAVE THE WAY FOR HER TO RUN & WIN IN 4 YEARS!
Clinton expected to release delegates Wednesday
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080824/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_clinton
- DENVER – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, hoping to unite the Democratic Party and cement her future in it, will gather her hard-won primary delegates Wednesday at a reception where she is expected to formally release them to Barack Obama.
> [The gathering] serves a dual purpose for Clinton:
- Show fellow Democrats that she can be a team player
- and display her still formidable political strengths for the future.
- Many of her supporters want her to run for president again.
> The New York senator has support among key voting groups that Obama has yet to win over, particularly women, older voters, and working-class voters.
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> John McCain’s campaign launched a television ad suggesting rival Barack Obama snubbed Clinton because of her criticism during the Democratic primary fight.
The ad features clips of Clinton, including one in which she accused him of negative campaigning, and a voiceover announcer says: “She won millions of votes but isn’t on the ticket. Why? For speaking the truth.”
I worry that the problem with faxing at this point is that nobody is at their office. They can still recieve their emails on their laptops, but I doubt they will get any faxes.
DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT THE MEDIA ARE SPEWING!!!
Lets wait for Hillary to say it. She’s in a LOT of pressure right now from the DNC and superdelegates especially Dean, Pelosi and NObama.
I will ONLY believe it when Hillary say it! Other than that, I consider anything that comes out from the media when it comes to Hillary as pure CONJECTURE.
Oops, typo in #110 Diva
My computer is screwing up. Seems to start getting these internal errors everytine I tried to post and mostly happens in the afternoon.
wish we could publish one of those letters. Need something to show disunity. How many of us are there ?
What are the prowls for today? I never received any…?
#91 NYCgirl. You’re welcome. I just sent an email to Maryland regarding your donation.
Awesome HQ.
Hillary will UNSUSPEND her campaign before delegates and superdelegates cast their vote. Probably that’s the release the media is talking about.
lisa,
Did you find out what you wanted to know about Debbie Wassermann-Schultz?
#107 lisa
I hope your right
this people from DNC
if they have to stick up, hold up the D & SD
in order for them to vote for OBIMBO
they would do it…..
now
the D &SD should have ethics, common sense , patriotism to stand against the mafious outrage,indecency, injustice….
What’s the big deal about McCains real estate investments? He is too busy working for the people.
The question is how did Obama acquire his?
113 TexasTigress
Everyone needs to be reminded of this all the time. Thanks for posting the info.
I am with those who say, just because they are released does not mean they will not vote for her! Thank you LISA for your comment, it went a long way to buoy my spirits.
#43 Kerri
You know better than repeat what MSNBC says about HRC. This is more crap to dishearten and divide us. Stop falling for this kind of bulls**t.
#83 Kerri
Yes, I agree, she has to do what she is doing because of “unity” but…. if delegates have any common sense, they should not back a losing ticket! Hope they think with their heads!
#117 diva2 on 08.24.08 at 6:24 pm
Its not your computer, there are many people trying to post comments same time as you and others are surfing in our blog. Hit the REFRESH button when you get an ERROR MESSAGE. Your PC is fine…..:))
MASSACHUSETTS DELEGATE: We understand that Steve Driscol, a MA delegate elected to represent CLinton is planning to vote for BO, a move which is morally wrong but also against MA law. Mr Driscol??? stdriscoll@aol.com.
DEBORAH WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: She needs to be reminded that Florida voted heavily for Hillary and that, as a SD, she should be supporting Hillary, not Obama. Please be sure that she hears from legions of Floridians!!! She wants to be your Senator… Phone: 202-225-7931 Fax: 202-226-2052 Phone: 954-437-3936; (305) 371-8721 Fax: 954-437-4776 Phone: 305-936-5724 Fax: 305-932-9664
Halligan…NOTHING could be harder than being ME. Hillary has money, power and a family. All she has to do is reach up and grab the golden ring.
I have worked hard, given up a lot, and I cannot make her reach for it. THERE ARE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of young women AND men watching her and she should not kiss ASS. There will be no forgiveness from me. IF she can’t do it, then who????
I pray she does the right thing, but if not I will campaign like a banshee out of hell for anyonebutnobama. And the DNC is dead to me.
RISE HILLARY RISE….
Does anyone here have a direct line to Hillary? I would like her to know that if she releases her delegates on Wednesday I believe it would be a betrayal of all her supporters who have sacrificed so much in terms of sweat, tears, time and donations.
I was just beginning to get excited again until I read the above posts on Hilary releasing her delegates.
Brooklyn NY
yes, thanks. (:
# 133 Texas Tigress – great point!!!! you got the page reference so i can find it and use it perhaps in a more elaborate way?
I believe the media is saying Hillary will release so that the public doesn’t focus on Biden and Bo’s slump rather than bump. Don’t get distracted peeps… eyes on the prize, it’s ours to win
Bo and Mo can fist bump Biden if they want a bump, cause they’re sure as hell not getting it in the polls.
#118 jane-pa on 08.24.08 at 6:24 pm
What letter are you talking about?
RE 122 Asian4Hillary
God i hope your right !!!!!!!
WE MUST KEEP FIGHTING KEEP BO AWAY FROM THAT OVAL OFFICE !!!!
KEEP THE PRESSURE ON PUMAS!!!!!!!!
#135 lisa on 08.24.08 at 6:28 pm
Ok. Good.
http://www.politico.com/ There is a fun article about Rendell…Bet he wont be back on msnbc anytime soon
I’m getting sick of Fox News with all this coverage about Obama, I can’t stand it. Had to turn off all the news. I don’t even like O’Reilly. I like Laura Ingraham the best, she’s a tough cookie and really doesn’t let anyone get away with a thing. Women Rule!
I am sure that Hillary is doing what she has to do and what she knows is best but I and my family will not fall in line for the annointed one and his followers. John McCain looks better all the time but I can’t stop feeling so blue and wanting to cry for her.
All Pumas, stay safe and God Bless you all
I will continue to work for the rights of Americans, no matter the outcome of this election.
#103 PA Guy
Chris Wallace on Fox has been giving the Obot spokesman HELL over Junior skipping over Hill and not even thinking about asking her to be VP!
#120 webfoot
Thanks very much!
NYCgirl
I’m going to try to get bottom of the delgate release thing.
Reading this posts made me have to go get my dramamine. ugh…..nauseaus from all the ups and downs.
Proud of Murphy, Mama Puma, DancesWithPumas, etc. etc. etc. and all of you. Take it, to the limit! and Beyond.
Yes Anna, I’ve been off all day, but got on just a bit ago. No TV news tho and you’ll be happy to know I watched an an entire episode of The Nelsons with Ozzie, Harriet, Ricky and David…..Did we ever exist like that?
#69 Hillistheone, “Just because they release them, it doesn’t mean anything…they could all still vote for Hillary!!!”
Exactly….am trying to understand why she would do this and not be disappointed. The media is reporting that it might be to save embarrassment if she gets fewer delegates. But I think the opposite holds true. IF she gets more delegates and surpasses Obama’s count then she can’t be blamed for stealing the nomination. So it might be a smart political move….even though at first glance it might seem like giving in.
No matter what I am NOT voting for O and will be voting for McCain. Perhaps Hillary has been looking forward to 2012 for a while… realizing that the primaries were rigged and knowing that noname can’t win the GE anyway. Just my spin!
I don’t blame Hillary if she has to release her delegates she has no choice if she wants to remain a NY senator. She stuck by me when the world was calling for her to go away.. The task to keep Obama out of office will be ours if that happens. Country before party!
I see the PUMA headquarters in Denver on the google satellite but don’t see any people yet!
I see the PUMA headquarters in Denver on the google satellite but don’t see any people yet!
#268 Hillaryistheone – I sent my emails to a different email addy for Debbie Wasserman Schultz – so will send them again to that one you furnished
#269 – Prowlland – done sent emails to the two delegates that better vote for Hillary. LOL
i don’t think it’s possible for any of us to know why the media is saying what it’s saying re: clinton’s delegates other than their pointing to a “source”. but, if the report has merit, which it potentially may, it seems like it might be worth paying attention to in case there is any way, especially for folks on the ground in denver, to apply pressure, take action, etc.
while pledged delegates can still vote as they want to even if clinton releases those pledged to her, i think it would just make it all the more difficult for them to do. would take even more guts, more spine, more defiance. would be nice if we could count on it being less of a challenge and not more.
Chris Wallace tried everyway he could to get this duffus on his show to tell him why Nobama did not even give Hillary a interview and he was like a broken record I am not going to answer that. On tv it is just BO, JO, MO
Anna , sorry I don’t , it came to me in an e-mail from a Jewish friend in Fla.
Thank you both Ladyhawkke and Lisa for the information from jbjd – YOU ARE RIGHT LISA – if we only have 24 hours to respond via each state in the terrible even that no name is the nominee – then we have to have a prowl instantly on that one to stop him in every state that we can – thanks again .
I heard somewhere that the reason Obama didnt veet Hillary was because MO wouldnt allow it.. Maybe I heard that here it’s been a long week-end
“Clinton expected to release delegates Wednesday
DENVER – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will gather her hard-won primary delegates Wednesday at a reception where she is expected to formally release them to vote for Barack Obama.
Clinton has invited her pledged delegates to a reception at the Colorado Convention Center, not far from the main Democratic National Convention arena.”
Our PUMA and Hillary FRIENDS are working hard in Denver and our job at home isn’t done yet either….not until Hillary is the rightful nominee. And then the real work starts….LOL!
Can I ask all PUMA’s to do one more push of Prawls for all three days; Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday to Hillary
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
and also at
http://clinton.senate.gov/email_form.html
To request in your most convincing tone to Hillary and Bill that they FIGHT for the nomination and what is rightfully hers, for her sake and the sake of ALL us Americans, and to NOT release her delegates. That this is not about PARTY loyalty but loyalty to the people of the United States and doing what is best for us by becoming the Democratic Party RIGHTFUL nominee. Also when you send your request to Hillary also send a contribution to help retire the debt to show your good faith in her. If we can send a mass of 10,000 or more contributions at one time to let her know that we believe in her and ask her to believe in us. It will send a very important message.
Also to do one more push to the super-delegates, at the same times, to stand up to the corruption and vote for Hillary as the rightful nominee. Explaining to them that this is not about Party loyalty but to stand up and be loyal to the American people. If you need the email addresses go to your previous prawl emails or check out the Puma resource center.
Let us not stop short and be tireless in our efforts here at home and add to the tireless efforts all our Hillary FRIENDS are doing in Denver.
Thank you FRIENDS
GBPuma
Neal
Green Bay, WI
Please don’t get discouraged and worked up by the rumor mill from the MSM. None of you need ulcers or high blood pressure. It’s really hard to see an end in sight when you’re fighting an uphill battle. There’s no doubt that that is what we are engaged in.
We have to keep taking things in stages so that we can keep our sights on our goals. Stage 1: the primaries, showed us that the DNC is corrupt and we would have to fight to get HRC placed in nomination. Mission accomplished! Now we will have to wait and watch to see what Stage 2 will be…either to ensure HRC’s election or to guarantee BO’s landslide loss!
We have to keep making progress one step at a time. IMHO
Fellow Big CATS!!
The media LOVES to lie to us about Hillary!
If she doesn’t say it from her own lips DON’T BELIEVE IT!
Hey, the supers are people too. They know XO is tanking. They know what an arrogant @@ss he has been.
They must be sick and tired of being pressured and bullied.
It is still entirely in THEIR HANDS.
NO MATTER how the DNC wants to try to control this, at the last minute, when each of those people stands up to shout out their vote- NO ONE can control what comes out of their mouths.
That is why the DNC is so scared.
DON’T LOSE FAITH. This isn’t the time to do it. We can worry about being miserable and disappointed next week if need be, but
RIGHT NOW we have to see the outcome in our minds, we have to feel the joy and excitement in our hearts, we have to have faith and really believe it is possible.
That energy goes somewhere. It helps. There is a larger group consciousness that we all participate in, and it is almost to the time where that is all we have left to give.
SO JUST KEEP THE FAITH!
HOLD ON!
Anyone from Denver on?? I see your place on the google satellite, maybe someone can go out and wave!!
PUMA’s — let’s stick together!
It makes sense that Hillary is releasing her delegates, and please don’t hold it against her. The roll call vote is a sham. It’s intent is for us to blame Hillary, and get split over the issue. She’s being held hostage, but we’re not.
Let’s remember that we’re about fair voting; particularly in the Democratic Party.
Our goal is not to get Hillary elected this year; it’s to reform the party so she can be fairly elected in ’12.
#128 That’s true, besides, aren’t the rules that whether she likes it or not, the states that she won and have the rules in place, MUST vote for her on the first ballot?
I just got an e-mail from Phil Berg, the atty, responding to my question as to why he didn’t serve the defendants BEFORE he had a hearing. I mean, who does that? I guess he was hoping the judge would sign the temporary restraining order. He said that even though the suit was filed in PA, that the defendants were going to be served in WA. ??? Did he mean DC? Also, that the courthouse was closed over the weekend and that it would be 2-3 weeks before the papers were served. I wrote him back and told him that he could have gotten it done as there are process servers that work OT. I was a legal secy all my life and know you can get anything done ASAP. This is an emergency, I don’t see why he is waiting around for this. Believe me, if I were handling the case, I would have had everything in place, filed the suit and had someone on the other end ready to serve the papers immediately. All you need is to put the case # on the summons and the process server goes out and does his job.
150 Rodham in Flag
thats all i can find
I have been reading and rereading Rickys emails…i emailed her to see if she had a list
113 TexasTigress
hey fellow texan – thank you, thank you. between you and MsbinMD (did i get that right?) we can reek havoc. have to do it quickly. thought i saw link a bit further up – will reread posts. will send emails in everyone’s name i know in fla – all my relative, my friends relatives, my cats relatives, etc.
#157 dcinlasvegas
Amen to your post!
#65 MARYD and everyone else reporting on the release of Clinton delegates.
I have one thought… the main source of this report is MSM… CNN and AP reports…. so I have one question.
Since when can we trust any reports coming out of MSM? They get their narratives from the Obama camp. Don’t believe anything until you see it happen first hand. MSM HAS NO CREDIBILITY — PURE PROPAGANDA!!!
Was speaking to some of Rep friends today. They love Hillary and really think that BO is just dumb for picking Biden and not Hillary. They thought that the ticket had a chance with her on it.
159 diva2 Are you messing around ? The satellite pics aren’t real time .
WE HAVE TO DEFEAT BO THIS JOB IS ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE !!!!!!!
153 TexasTigress on 08.24.08 at 6:35 pm
Anna , sorry I don’t , it came to me in an e-mail from a Jewish friend in Fla.
tt – what post are you referring to of anna’s?
GB PUMA – Thanks for your post. Usually not good to use the Senate office contact since they have strict rules about what they can and cannot address, i.e. must be senate-related. But, the Friends of Hillary (formerly the Clinton campaign site) and the site I’ve posted below are places we can try to contact her:
http://www.hillpac.com/action/issues/?sc=2498&utm_source=2498&utm_medium=e
161 ladyhawkke
you go !!!!!!!! keep at it…. did he repond to anything you said ???…I know mamaes lawyers was going ot have the papers served at the convention !!
what is the google satilite?
BBG #136 of anna’s I think she was referring to the XO quote .
#78 1gypsy4mc
I did see your post on the hospital… like you — I don’t know the details — but as usual — always in shock at the level of evil that exists in the Obama’s
All — Dont forget to tune in to No We Wont Radio tonight — live from Denver with Sheri Tagg and Pumas from all across the country.
Call in — call early — call often.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont
call in 347-539-5420
I have the gut feeling, a lot of Hillary delegates will walkout of the convention if they’re forced to vote for NObama.
If Hillary turns over her Delegates, there will be ONLY ONE reason. She, her career and place in the DP are being B L A C K M A I L E D.
She has no recourse, if she wants to continue her career and and life’s work for the underprivileged, etc. Not like the rest of the dirty politicians who can be bought at the drop of a hat. Sad to say, this country is not ready for a THIRD PARTY.
I am disgusted, but need to understand her position.
BBBBWWWWWWWAAAAAA
greta
#137 Trish
Your comments are right on target.
They are talking about delegates now on c-span
Lets say, she’ll release her delegates and ask them to vote for NObama, her delegates has a choice either to vote for nincompoop or walkout. If I’m one of her delegate, I’d walkout, my conscience would be clear I did the right thing.
#170 anna7000 I never call, I usually fax her office (703) 962-8600.
I agree. Remember this “news” that network affiliates were reporting rather convincingly on Friday?
“Bumper Sticker Suggests Bayh Will Be Obama’s VP”
http://www.ksbw.com/politics/17269148/detail.html Just because they say it or print it doesn’t make it true!
#176 Asian4Hillary on 08.24.08 at 6:44 pm
I think many of them just aren’t showing up at all to vote. For example Diane Feinstein supposedly is not going to be there because she sprained her ankle or something. Kind of think if she really wanted to be there for the roll call votes she’d go.
I think she just can’t stomach doing what the DNC expects her to do.
138 letter from BO to Del. saying they had to vote for him
MURPHY What time is the show on tonight? Anyone know? Maybe we can get some answers.
#172 mijabsnji on 08.24.08 at 6:43 pm
Its a software, you must install it. Use google pro.
#184 jane-pa Did he win Delaware?
I am so mad about these people saying she HAS to do so much for him and work her heart out for him. Like we dont have a mind of our won because his people dont.
Did it again.
My last post was referring to :
#165 mzebest on 08.24.08 at 6:40 pm
The elected delegates have to vote for Hillary the first two rounds is what fitz Mondale just said I think she is just giving a party for them
Asian4Hillary
I think the supers are pretty pissed too.
I think in the begining of this they were scared and feeling threatened, but I think they have gotten strength from our support, and from the fact that 400 delegates signed Hillary’s petition and knowing there are others like them.
We have to hope and trust that alot of these people have some guts and a desire to stand up for themselves and their principles (or principals? or would that be like in school? oh who knows…)
This could turn in to a real history making event and a total shocker.
#183 BrooklynNY on 08.24.08 at 6:47 pm
Delegates and superdelegates has a LOT to worry about – BACKLASH from their constituents when they go back to their district/state.
Lady I think narrow win. trouble posting sorry
Webfoot??
#183 Brooklyn NY I called Feinstein’s office and she is sending a delegate in her place. Also, the AR chairman who was shot, his wife is going in his place. I faxed the Oregon Gov this morning and asked him to go and support Hillary. Don’t know if you e-mailed him but the e-mail came back.
HRC can do whatever she wants, but nothing she can do (other than winning the nomination) will change my vote. Not in 18 million years, with 18 million elections would I cast one vote for BO. +1 for McCain.
Let’s start the PUMA party and invite her over from the darkside.
No means NO: Nobama
Prowlland
OK I’ve emailed W-Schulz, the 2 delegates in the Houston paper and the MA one who is breaking the law of his state. Are the ones in the Houston paper texas delegates? Hope so, I referred to the caucus fraud. I’m not going to spend any more time doing that if every time I come back here, everyone is wringing their hands about what Hillary is going to do and about how they are done with her if she does this or that. Get to work and help her win. Stop tearing her down, please.
RE: HILLARY RELEASING HER DELEGATES WED.
I think one of the reasons she might be saying this is because she’s seeing there is practically no chance that she will get enough votes at the convention to come out as the nominee. If, given the current indications, she doesn’t announce that she will formally do what the Party expects her to do so that BO is “harmoniously” made the nominee, she will be seen as acting contrary to the Party.
She doesn’t want to give signs, at this point, that she will wage any kind of opposition or contention at the convention.
Of course, no matter what she (or the media) say now, something unexpected could still happen in the convention floor (though I doubt it… but who knows!)
thanks, ladyhawkke. i call, fax and send an e-mail! but, calling is usually futile since the friends of hillary site never has anyone who picks up the phone these days.
Just got back from a trip….. there is so much happening… does anyone know how many PAC members have checked in in Denver? Also, I want to say that we shouldn’t get all het up about the delegates being released…. we all know this is a “selection” process and there was a lot of negotiations behind the scenes… and intimidation. I just seem to have a wait and see attitude…. This is going to be one long convention!!!!
on c-span now about delegates
they are so full of —– on c-span
I just sent a slew of e-mails to the media saying I would NOT vote for BO.
I hate it when the “talking heads” say we will switch to BO when the convention is over.
Fox is giving Hill a bunch of coverage.
Said not wise to not choose Hill. Said the COnvention could force a vote for her to be vice.
Just something for everyone to think about.
We all know the media is in the tank for 61, so everyone is watching FOX. Don’t be taken in by them either. They are using this split with Hillary and 61 to their full advantage.
I like FOX and have been watching it for over a year now. But they are going to do everything they can, to keep this going for as long as they can.
So take what you hear with a spoonful of realism.
Hillary has not told us what she is going to do. Until she does, we need to stay on track and keep doing what we know is right.
If she throws us under the bus, we need to understand that she is doing what she feels like she has to do, and we are doing what we feel like we have to do.
#191 lisa on 08.24.08 at 6:49 pm
These two groups of people (delegates and superdelegates) are worried of backlash right now, especially superdelegates, their constituents will BLAME them for everything, then vote them out of office. The anger of voters cannot be ignored. These superdelegates better LISTEN to the PEOPLE if they know what’s good for them.
GEESH I CANT WATCH ANYMORE NEWS RIGHT NOW I AM GOING TO WATCH THE POKER TOUR FOR A WHILE I WOULD RATHER WATCH THEM GAMBLE THAN WATCH THE DNC GAMBLE WITH OUR FUTURE AND OUR COUNTRY !!!!!!!!
BE BACK LATER KEEP FIGHTING PUMAS
I hate it as well when the talking heads act like we are going to fall in line. They are calling us bitter.
Can we get an address for the wife of the Ark delegate who is going in her late husband’s place. We can send her our support and encourage her to stay strong. This must be a horrible time for her.
BO is not going to win. I don’t care what the hell anyone tells us, we’re not voting for him in November…and we ARE the liberal constituency.
So. You know what, Hill’s gotta look to 12 and be able to rebuff accusations of having worked against her own party’s bid for the White House in 08 by not doing all in her power to help BO. I got that.
I will be sending all my most positive energy, as I have for months, hoping that people use their Will to stand up for the best interest of America and vote for HRC in Denver, just as we citizens did all across the country.
Either way, we know for certain Obama’s never going to be POTUS.
Looking forward to the radio show…I’ll call in and listen on the phone if that’s the only way I can hear.
197 BigCatLover
I think so…. ( texas delegates)..it was in the Houston paper…
I’m reading CNN ticker right now. One post caught my attention:
Neutralizer August 24th, 2008 6:32 pm ET
Voters are so ANGRY right now with Obambi and DNC, he already lost the election before first ballot is being cast.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/24/cnn-forces-obama-to-release-vp-pick-early/#comment-1531837
I feel very wired. Give me some meat pumas. How about some good news??
LandiPUMA – I think your analysis is right on and reflects what others have said here in bits and pieces. But, as at least one blogger wrote a while back, it’s Obama’s job to unite the party, not Clinton’s. But, we can feel that way all we want, and then there’s reality and politics churning away in it’s own world. It’s frustrating to see her being painted into a corner like this. And, like at least one other blogger wrote, seems like women are often the ones to have to carry the responsibililty for things far beyond what it there’s to be responsible for.
God, I can feel all of our emotions straining so much now that the convention is here. Hard to keep jockeying between taking action, hoping for the outcome we want, while also trying to somehow brace oneself for what we don’t want.
Anyway, I always find your posts so well thought out. Much appreciated.
THIRD TIME.
Mara Liasson from NPR just confirmed what I said in #177 above.
They (AH’s) are looking for any mis-step that Hillary or Bill may make in their sincerity in endorsing the IMPOSTER!
B L A C K M A I L
SICK
greta
Nice place in Denver Pumas!! If Hillary gives in to the DNC and their corrupt/Chicago style politics,including voter and delegate intimidation,voter fraud and selecting a truly unqualified person for POTUS, I can only wonder …WHY?? She is a powerful,wealthy woman with connections all over the world, why wouldn’t she fight??? Someone earlier mentioned that Chelseas future might be the hammer they are holding over her head..may God help us if our democracy has come to this. Obama and the Chicago machine must be defeated , we can’t allow the likes of Obama and his thugs and Michelle and her hatred of America and ‘whites’ be
Puma friends, Hillary will do what she is forced to do.
We all know what a gut turner this has to be for her.
Release of delagates or not Bo will not get my vote it will go to McCain, at least we know where his loyalty lies, not with a Muslum turned Christian to suit his agenda.
To give Hillary credit…..she doesn’t want to try and lead a party that is so split either. She has to work and live as a Senator amongst the WA…
The biggest favor anyone can do for Hillary is vote McCain in 2008 and Hillary in 2012!
NOBAMA!
in the most powerful position in the country , indeed the world.
I posted this on an old thread by accident, so here it is again.
ok all, I tried to make it down there to se you guys today but had a little family thing to tend to. I will be there tomorrow and you guys can put me to work, is there anything left to do?
206 Asian4Hillary
I don’t agree, especially since so many of these delegates voted AGAINST their constituents. If Hillary’s delegates vote for her, and the ones that were SUPPOSED to vote for her, then the only ones she needs are ones that don’t have a district or constituency to answer to (people like Bill).
I also don’t think that all these supers are as weak and scared as you portray them. They are people like us, and we are the majority. That means the people they represent are the majority.
I am getting really tired of this negativity. I don’t understand why you are working so hard now if you have already given up on 2008.
From Ricki Lieberman on my telling he Debbie Wasserman Schultz wasn’t budging:
“Nonetheless, I would mobilize as many Floridians as you can to inundate her offices tomorrow with people insisting that she vote for HRC…
GO GO GO!!!”
Former lurker – fired up!
point me to the list of alleged soon to be released delegates. She may release them but we won’t
Go Denver PUMAS!!!!
BigCatLover – Amidst all of this craziness, your reminder about how hard it must be for the wife of the AK DNC Chair to attend this convention is much appreciated. Can you imagine being in this loud, hectic, empassioned environment just days after your spouse was murdered? She must be one very strong woman.
#212 Asian4Hillary and all: We have been telling them that, but they didn’t listen. Scott Rassmussen tonight on Fox, saying….if O doesn’t get the Clinton Supporters – he’s got a big problem. Scott Rassmusen said he will be working all week to win us over. Fasten your seat belts here comes the snow job…
I just heard some woman on the Fox Panel say that Hillary is being “watched” for real or percieved resistance to BO and that her career will be over if she does not go along.
They do not get it.
Ok , I have inside information from inside my head as to what will happen on Tuesday ..
First , Hillary will come out and thank everyone for showing up , then she will direct the Puma in charge of video to display Obama’s REAL BC that she has had in her posession all along , then she will play the Whitey Tape , which she has had in her posession all along , then she will have Rezco and Ayers live on satellite behind her saying that they are going to testify against Obama . Then she is going to have the police arrest Nancy , Howie ,Bo and Mo for fraud , and then she is going to say ,” You should have known better than to F with me .” Then everyone will cheer and we will live happily ever after .
I don’t understand why we can’t keep the negativity away for just three more short days. Can we just TRY to believe it is possible? Can we just ATTEMPT to work as hard as we can for a real reason?
I gotta go for now, I am sorry, it is just starting to make me angry. I should take a break.
I will most likely “Vote Qualifications vs. Party”.
I will vote based on a candidates experience and qualifications. I would never hire someone of lesser qualities. Hillary fulfills all credentials required to fill the most important job in the world.
Just make sure every single pro-Obama delegate up for re-election are kicked out of their posiition by someone else. This definitely means PELOSI. Not sure what leaders are all up for re-election.
Hillary was caught between a rock and a hard place. No Democrat has won or probably can win the White House without the black vote. There was no way blacks were not going to support Obama. She has to to everything she can to not upset that voting block now if she wants to run again for POTUS.
That does not mean PUMAs have to support Obama. And in my view the Repub attack machine has more amunition, supplied by Obama himself, that they will be the bad guys and squash Obama in the GE.
227 TexasTigress
I copied this from another blog… but as far as the word “bitter” is concerned I loved this …. we are not BITTER anymore!!!
“To me though the word “bitter” will now forever have a personal meaning, a private connotation, if you will. When I hear bitter, I think brave. Brave because it is hard to speak truth to power, scary to attract nasty name-calling, risky to stick to your principles when friends, family, and co-workers (and sometimes bosses) pressure you to surrender them. It takes guts to stick to one’s commitment to Senator Clinton or to an authentically democratic Democratic National Convention. I am absolutely impressed that so many of the people I know displaying the necessary fortitude are people who are not protected by personal privilege or position. I am appalled at the lack of fortitude displayed by some who have these safeguards to fall back upon.
One thing is for sure: this political season it is the bitter who are brave.
Regarding negative replies, or how to respond to BHO supporters:
Whether one is writing to their governmental officials or BHO’s supporters, I think perhaps the better approach would be to take my cues from Mr O himself. If any of you have watched him, he has cleverly mastered the art of taking a distraction and making it into a positive. He uses colorful ajectives to get his point across. For example, according to Mr O, Hillary is not a good or great campaign opponent, she is “tenacious” a word that rhymes with vicious and invokes a mental image of a tiger. He does not necessarily speak to the mind, but will in fact create mental images. He works with mind *concepts* rather than ideas as pure thought. By doing this, he invokes mental associations and brings up images that talk directly to the emotions rather than to reason. He divides in order to conquer. He believes in the old adage, that the best defense is an offense.
So if I were talking to a BHO supporter, I would use his own words and/or thoughts against him. For example,
If people say, stop bothering us, or stop flooding our email boxes, I might respond: We are only doing what Mr O suggested we do. How so they will ask. Well, he said that he built his campaign from the bottom up and we are doing the same. He said that his administration would not be beholding to large lobbyist or that lobbyist money will not run his administration. Well, we are doing exactly what he has requested. Namely, we are a grass roots bottom up group who, by our very nature have been compelled and drawn together by one common goal. We are the many voices of the common person, to whom he said he would listen to were he to become President. So all we are asking of you, is that you give us a chance to be heard… to be listened to, because we *are* the voice of the people.
Out of the Many, Comes the One.”
NP4HillARee – Here’s the link that lists all the pledged delegates by state, but there’s no contact info, not that such info would do much good at this point anyway:
http://www.demconvention.com/certified-delegates-ec/
Yes; let’s keep doing all we can to get Hillary elected this week. But keep in mind that all of us — including Hillary — are up against probably the most corrupt election in the history of our nation. No matter what they claim to accept [like roll call vote], they can find a way to sabotage.
But … WE WILL WIN in the end … maybe not this week up against the DNC. Let’s keep Plan B in mind; if BO is nominated, we work for his defeat and the current leaders of DNC losing their power; for a new DNC to emerge before 2012 will create a fair primary process.
There are a great many issues we can raise if we need to go to Plan B. No Quarter has an excellent discussion of Biden’s role in the Clarence Thomas hearings, and his very anti-woman stance.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/24/this-is-just-ironic/
I keep comparing us to the Suffragists. [www.unbrokencircles.com]. They had to fight the DNC through several elections before they got suffrage for women. Our issue is about justice and “one person; one vote.” We will win in the end!
WE ARE BRAVE
Obama may be able to bounce a basketball, but he cannot put a bounce in the POLLS!
WE ARE BRAVE…… NOT BITTER
RE: Barack Obama I wll stand with the muslims…
the audacity of Hope page 261…but it is a rewording…
Anyone else get their “hello” message from Biden?
My reply:
Mr Biden,
I’m sorry to say that even your addition to the Democratic ticket will not earn my vote. Barack Obama is not qualified or experienced enough to be the President of the United States. Though I have respect for your record, and I hope that by running with him you do not destroy your career, he has shown me nothing.
Obama has destroyed the Democratic Party. There is and will be no unity. In my opinion, the fact that the DNC has tried to pass him off as a viable candidate is an embarrassment.
Many of Senator Clinton’s supporters will not vote for Obama, myself included. Not only will I not vote for him, but I will not vote for any Democratic candidate that supported him. Out with the old and in with the new. That’s change I can believe in!
Donna xxxx
Las Vegas, NV
Untill I hear otherwise I plan on voting for Hillary!
174 mzebest
What I understood is that Mo wants the uninsured to go to Clinics instead of hospitals. That way the sick will not be taking up bed space, etc. for emergencies – denying them any care at the hospital level. Unfortunately, many clinics are not set up for the uninsured…real big problem!! Now – this is what I understood the situation to be, so anyone reading this, please – I do not know the entire details.
Voters Not Yet Backing Obama
Barack Obama desperately needs the support of Bill and Hillary Clinton voters if he’s to win the presidential race in November — and so far he’s not getting it.
That’s the view expressed by NBC News political director Chuck Todd during an appearance with host Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Wednesday. Republican John McCain and Democrat Obama have “carved up” the partisan vote and “the vote that is left to get is a vote that loves Hillary Clinton,” Todd said.
continue reading: http://countusout.wordpress.com/
#236 PA Guy on 08.24.08 at 7:04 pm
[[Obama may be able to bounce a basketball, but he cannot put a bounce in the POLLS!]]
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I can’t wait to see him foul out.
TIGRESS!!!!! PERFECT!
As bmw60 said, this is going to be one long convention. It’s going to get funky on the blog, too, at times. Maybe we can all agree that now that it’s crunch time and we’re in the thick of our first milestone (the convention) that 1) emotions are running super high, 2) we’re all going to have different ways of coping with how things are playing out, with some focusing on the next 72 hrs and others focusing longer term already, but 3) as long as we don’t insult each other and express our views with dignity, it’s ok.
#226 Headclunker
Was the woman on the fox panel Mara Liasson (lots of dark wavy hair)? She is the one media person who is completely impartial and if she said that, you can bet it’s true.
#212 Asian4Hillary on 08.24.08 at 6:55 pm
Voters are so ANGRY right now with Obambi and DNC, he already lost the election before first ballot is being cast.
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Too bad we’ll still have to listen to him for the next two months before it’s finally official.
#221 lisa on 08.24.08 at 6:59 pm
I’m a realist, but still hopeful Hillary will come out on top of the ticket when the convention is over. As I’ve stated a few days ago in previous thread, Hillary must do what she must to survive politically. This is harder for her, she’s the one in the front line. What I’ve stated is not negative, it is a fact that all of us must face IF those in power will push for Nobama.
There is ONE thing we ALL can do, if these bought and paid for superdelegates totally ignore voice of their constituents – BALLOT BOX.
OK – just in case the delegate situation is true on Wednesday – we have to go to plan B – that being of jbjd’s going to each State within 24 hours of his nomination – if we can not get her in – we can certainly try to keep him out – anyone have any idea of how to go about this and who do we send emails – SofS for each State requesting that he furnish a birth certificate – jbjd are you lurking – please help us
notfollowinthepiedpiper – don’t forget – you don’t have to listen to him for the next two months. you can take your cue from lorelai and check out ozzie and harriet re-runs instead! probably much better for your overall health and well being!
My email to Biden this am:
I am sorry sir, that you have allowed your reputation to be sullied in accepting the VP position from this Chicago thug.
I think I become a bit more bitter every time they call us bitter
Please keep e-mailing the media – - let them know that Senator Clinton can not bring us home. Only Obama can do that. She can’t get votes for him. It’s his responsibility to earn our votes, our respect and our confidence, and he has failed. The only endorsment I give credence to is my own.
#239 dcinlasvegas Good response. I got the email too. They never seem to catch on that I’m not voting for BO. Here’s my response:
“Dear Joe,
No one tells me what to do, not even Hillary. If you had been Hillary’s VP then I would have welcomed you to the ticket. Unfortunately, you have joined hands with the worst potential candidate in the history of the United States.
My vote is just that…my vote. And Obama doesn’t get it.”
stardust – hysterical. you really bit the bullet on that one!
i’m actually trying to see if there’s a way i could say, yeah, i am bitter! so what? why is it an accusation any of us should feel obligated to defend? but then when i look up the definition of the word “bitter” it really doesn’t quite hit the mark of what i feel. oh well.
Picture this:
Hillary and Bill going into the voting booth in Nov. and voting for McCain.
Mara Liasson doesn’t sound impartial to us. She was defensive for Nobama and Joe and she said the signs that would be at the convention with Nobama on them would not be allowed to be seen.
not followingthepiedpiper….lol …I used that back in Feb at Huffpost
I like it
Can we get a link to the radio show, along with broadcast time?
Good one, Virginia PUMA – - sock it to em’!!
stoney42 – love it! love it! love it! or, of course, depending on state rules, they could write in clinton’s name! but, you got a great point. now i can’t help but wonder, would clinton truly cast her vote for obama on election day? especially since new york state will be a shoe in for any dem candidate. so she really will be free in the privacy of that voting booth to do her thing. that actually gives me a good feeling just imagining that! thanks for the post!
This may or may not be news to you all but fox just reported that Hillary would not have All the states on the roll call but they didn’t say which ones she was leaving out.
The Democrat Party is truly divided and the best thing we can do , after the convention, is work hard to defeat Obama and those politicians that didn’t represent their states properly at the convention. Also, work to unseat Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, and all of the people that wouldn’t hear the voice of the voters…they can be replaced, THAT is democracy in action. Hillary may have to ‘take it’ but we DONT. This Primary season opened my eyes to the need for all voters to pay attention and hold politicians accountable…they do work for us. We will remember in November. The DNC and the power brokers behind them selected the most unqualified person possible for the highest position in the land …how could they??? As the saying goes…The Dems have ,once again, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. This lifelong Democrat will vote for McCain, the first time I have ever voted Republican..may go down ticket also if it will send a message to the DNC….Oh, am I bitter, angry, vindictive??? Yep.
#218 coloconnect- To give Hillary credit…..she doesn’t want to try and lead a party that is so split either. She has to work and live as a Senator amongst the WA…
The biggest favor anyone can do for Hillary is vote McCain in 2008 and Hillary in 2012!
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Amen to that- I for one will not watch any network or cable station anymore, this is where I get my news and I am a better person for it!
Go Ed Rendell!
Anyone polls out on the week-end?
cspan said caucus id decided by state. Radio link?? Lost it
Is anyone watching C-Span with Pual Kirk, Frank Fahrenkopf, Walter Mondale and host Cynthia Tucker from the Atlanta Journal constitution editoral page that is taking place going on at the Denver Center for the performing arts state theater?
I am flabbergasted by Kirk thinking that this electoral process this year is fair. Has he lost his freaking mind?
This is the most corrupt election I can ever remember living through.
PUMAS, do your work, let’s change the party!
Blue Blue Gal
Heaven help me! Got on the phone to get some support for some emailing Wasserman, and couldn’t get off the darn phone.
See there is a prowl planned above for her, so I guess our plan is in process. Time is short, but I would still like to get info on whether or not she received OB or Pelosi money. Think it on last thread. Off to check
222 ladyhawkke
hubby said it never takes that long to serve papers….whats going on ????
I think that Biden did not really want the VP spot but was chosen to fall on his sword for the party because he is near retirement age. His health is actually not real good. He has had two aneurisms. They know BO is not going to win the election.
Debbie Wassermann-Schultz is a very ambitious young politician. She thinks her congressional seat is invulnerable. She was taken under the wing of Nancy Pelosi early in her career; she brings in lots of $$$ to the DNC. She’s more interested in protecting her career by maintaining her sweet spot within the DNC than representing her constituents. I don’t have a lot of faith in her. She’s looking more and more like a sell-out to me. But she’s got to be having an attack of conscience, even as she continues to spout the DNC propaganda pitch. She looked distinctly uncomfortable when I saw her interviewed on FOX.
#239 dcinlasvegas, Right ON!!!
To All Every time we hear or see the word bitter mentally replace it with the word determined. It is a more positive word and signifies strength!!
Thank you Prowlland #137 – email sent to Steve Driscoll in Massachusetts to remind him who to cast his vote at the Convention – keep it up – loving these prowls from you
AsianforHillary – that refresh idea did not work for me – so back to copy and enter
I am proud of Ed Rendell. I wish Tubbs could be a the convention.
I miss her
Brooklyn – If only science had come up with a quick acting “an attack of conscience” pill, it’d be great. We could hand it out like candy on the convention floor!
#268 Prowlland I don’t know. All I know is you can get a process server to stand by. I’ve done that a lot. This is what he wrote:
The lawsuit was filed on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at approximately 4:45 in PA, all defendants must be served in WA, there is no way to get service in another state completed within hours. Original documents must be sent to WA, then the Marshall or Process Server may not get to it for a week or two. There would have been absolutely no way to have defendants served by 2:00 p.m. on Friday, August 22, 2008. Further, courts are not open on the weekend. There is a process in all litigation, a process we must follow.
Once I have confirmation service is complete, I will prepare another press release and post it on the website. Phil
On Fox now:
“Live report on the protesters coming up!”
227 TexasTigress – very cool. You go PUMA!!
Clinton to release delegates….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080824/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_clinton
It just seems like her speech is just going to be thank you for all your support, blah,blah,blah – now lets support Obama. Where is her fighting spirit???
Come on Hillary!!!! fight!!
1gypst4mc – great idea. would be a powerful tool in a press interview too. “yes, you’re right, i am very determined.” “no, i said you and your supporters were bitter.” “thank you, yes, we are determined.”
Saw Bill Schneider on CNN today, freaking out saying, “How can people say their Hillary supporters and vote for McCain?!!!” My response: “How can they NOT?!!!”
I mean, what planet is he on? Where’s he been for the last year?
I used to think he was a sane, intelligent man …. But he’s just another idiot who just doesn’t get it. I mean, he REALLY doesn’t get it!
MURPHY
How is everyone interviews going?
How did Will manage to get a convention pass – that is great!!!
We need to all keep in mind that even if Sen Clinton ‘releases’ her delegates, they can still vote for her. That is the key here. They like we, do not have to do what she says, they own their delegate votes too. So stay after those delegates Pumas! Night and day, keep after them.
#251 virginiapuma right on!
266 bythelake
do you have his email ?
WHY HAVE ELECTIONS…………………….when WE GOT THE DNC
The DNC has driven us to the next most Experienced, Qualified Candidate….. John McCain or …..a NO VOTE.
Those who just assume that we will jump on Obama’s soul train fueled by inspiration and false hopes are only making us more determined to NOT vote Obama. Never Assume!
#259 Kerri
Hey, Kerri,
What radio show are you referring to? I don’t know anything about it …
NYCgirl
which protesters hubby took over tv for game
#281 BrooklynNY on 08.24.08 at 7:21 pm
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He’s been an idiot throughout this primary season. Part of the reason I stopped watching CNN loooooooong time ago.
Radio show link…airs in 37 ms. Dug it up myself.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT
I had a repair person at my house and he noticed all my Hillary pictures in my home office. He was young and said he had supported Obama – but now had his doubts he would win. I’m glad people are at least wising up to that fact.
Now all we need is for the Super Delegates to do the right thing and
BRING BACK HILLARY!!!!!
Lady I have an idea. Is anyone getting who votes for who? Down line means a lot too.
rlp33 I think you are right but at least we can begin our campaign to stop the anti American, no nothing, piece of wasted flesh called Bo.
NYC Girl: Murphy posted shortly ago to say be sure to stay tuned to the show tonight.
ty Kerri
#275 Anna7000 on 08.24.08 at 7:19 pm
LOL. Anna, you just gave me one of the rare chuckles I’ve had in days. How I wish science had come up with one. ….If we had stock in the Co. producing it, we’d be millionnaires (that is if we could get anyone to take them, probably have to drop it in the Kool-Aid).
#249 Rodham in Flag
I think the drill was to contact the sec of state and the attornery general in each state with bound delegates, but my state is not one of those so I didn’t actually participate.
From Ricky Lieberman: (last night) -
“SD’s have the awesome reponsibility to select the electable Democrat, and there are rumors that dozens more SD’s are planning to switch or switch back to vote for Hillary on this basis. Please reinforce this with your SD’s and public officials from your state or whom you have helped financially. CALL CALL CALL
I have been flood with emails from delegate telling they are staying with Hillary and are proud of it! In addition, Hillary delegates are hearing directly from “Hillary People” to please vote for her on the first ballot. There is no longer any ambiguity about that, if there ever was.
GO GO GO”
I was wonderING.
Will the indoor part of the convention be televised live where anything unexpected gets seen, or will there be a time delay so that the Democrats can hide any provactive or miltant expessions?
See, I WILL NOT be wasting my time watching such a phony presentation. What I’d like to do is record each evening one night at a time on an 8 hour tape, and if something happens of interest, of significance or just anything above the concept of boredom then I can review it later.
My plans for the week? Believe it or not ladies and gentlemen I have over 50 hours of CBS archives of the Kennedy assassination as it happened starting with the news bulletin interupting “As the World Turns” on Friday November 22, 1963 and extending all the way to the funeral procession of JFK on Monday November 25, 1963. I haven’t viewed it in a while. I’ll be watching that because even after all these years it’s still more compelling a thing to watch than Barack Obama at a convention.
Hay Pumas.
Love the web cam.
Thanks webfoot and hillaryistheone. A little bit of channeled anger and disgust. Every time I get upset with the DNC jokers I try to use the emotion in a positive way. Used to be about once a day, now 5 or 6 times daily.
Nobama’s campaign office has been vandalized
Hillary will do what she has to do; WE understand that. But the Democratic Party is failing because of its smoke and mirror campaign tactics and fuzzy math. It will show in November!
missed web cam where?
#270 Brooklyn NY And she will be more nervous when she sees these faxes I sent to both her offices:
August 24, 2008
BY FAX: (954) 437-4776
(202) 226-2052
Dear Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz:
As a strong Hillary Clinton supporter, I urge you to switch back to Senator Clinton, if only on the first ballot. Please be aware that many women (and men as well) are looking at you to lead us forward for the right to have a fair and balanced roll call. Further, you may not be able to raise money from women for your re-election campaign if needed.
I have heard but do not know if true, that the order of roll call for the delegates will not be as usual, i.e., A, B, C, etc. That Obama’s delegates will go first so he can gain the lead and Sen. Clinton’s roll call will be a sham. If this indeed is fact, it is further proof that the DNC, Pelosi, Dean, Brazile and the rest are corrupt.
This was supposed to be a glorious convention for the Democrats and Sen. Clinton. The process was rigged from the beginning against Sen. Clinton and now the roll call is being rigged in favor of Sen. Obama. Sen Clinton is beloved and an honored patriot who has been treated with disrespect throughout this election season by the MSM and the DNC. You owe it Sen. Clinton and all her supporters to stand up and be heard to let the DNC and Mr. Obama know that WE THE PEOPLE still own this land and the RED WHITE AND BLUE is to be honored and respected at all costs.
Please reconsider your decision and show your support for Sen. Clinton at the roll call in Denver. Do not allow the Democratic process to be hijacked by imposing their will on you and the citizens of this country.. It only takes one person to start the ball rolling to stand up for truth. Rally your delegates and vote for Sen. Clinton. Do not allow the DNC to make a mockery of the roll call. It must proceed in order as always. I hope you reconsider and stand up for democracy in Denver.
Thank you,XXX Puma Democrat from Florida
Obama citizenship lawsuit filed on Friday, August 22nd:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/001_ObamaMemSupportTRO082108.pdf
30 minute Preview of Documentary on Caucus Voter Fraud: http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
#257 Pookie Maira Liason
Sounds to me that she was just reporting on how tight the BO people would be running the convention and not spouting the Unity party line like most of the media.
where pookie?? Chicago? or Denver
280 Anna7000 Thank you and look how much different the sentence is: [ “thank you, yes, we are determined.”]
#290 and #294 Kerri
Thanks!
#285, no I don’t but will go see if I can hunt it down. I am so disgusted with this group of …. well you know.
#292 jane-pa
Good though. With the Democratic Party leaning on Hillary and threatening to end her career if she doesn’t’ do what they say, are forgetting who the voters are – and we will end your careers if you don’t do what the people want.
Do the right thing!!!
Vote Hillary
#267 MsBinMD
Don’t know if she got money; but she’s a DNC rising star. She brings IN mega dollars to the DNC. In record time, she got in tight with DNC leadership (Pelosi personally campaigned for her in FL; she’s tight with Rahm Emanuel – DNC leadership). Money isn’t her drug of choice; it’s ambition. IMO.
Wll according to the list from PROWLLAND #131 on last thread Wasserman’s name is not on the “money” list.
Glad in one respect but would have been another kicker in the correspondance.
But I guess we’ll see how important her Political position is to her when we let her know if she does not do the right thing, we will fight to have her replaced
#302 Pookie LOL! Maybe someone is looking for his BC!
#300 shamptoova What webcam, I want it too!
Lady 305 Super
#305 ladyhawkke on 08.24.08 at 7:29 pm
Your letter is magnificent! Wow.
I’m in the process of writing her one right now.
311 Right!!
312 BrooklynNY
Pal of Pelosi, huh? Well maybe they can keep each other company on a new job search!
I am from Texas. What happened here was FRAUD. It matters.
I appreciate the PUMAS because if ya’ll continue to grow and develop as a movement then we may get some of the real issues addressed.
I love Hillary and the attacks on her were attacks on her supporters as well. But the real deal is that candidates that did not support Obama (Hiilary supporters) are already targeted by Camp Obama.
Just as we need to develop strategies to make our voices heard….Senator Clinton is developing a strategy to survive and prosper as a politician in the Obama Machine. She has the party leadership and the media stacked against her. Not an easy position to be in.
Ya’ll hang in there….Murphy and the Pumas in Denver are doing an excellant job of getting the word out…and the word is NOBAMA!
Denver if I heard correct it was on Fox and showed pictures paint thowned broken windows etc
267 MsBinMD & 270 BrooklynNY -
i am not seeing where anyone has a prowl on her, so i will do a “follow the money” at OPEN SECRETS dot org. i agree with bklyn, she is a sell-out. let’s go persuade her – this is not my forte at all, writing a letter is not within the parameters of my patience; the rewriting, editing, and spell check will try me, but i will do so. i accept the responsibilty i have just put upon myself.
I talked to some of my gay boys today. they are not voting for bambi. They love hill and will vote for McCain. Not that the GOP is gay friendly. We will get her in office this year or in 2012. This is our time. F’ the DNC
trying to winnow this whole thing down in my mind:
party wants a show of unity
but party is split
so, party is split
half supported bo
half supported clinton
why not work it out on the convention floor
why must the woman step aside
taking a break….glad we’re all managing to hang together today despite rising emotions and differing views on how to act or even how to think ahead (be it one hour from now or one month).
a DETERMINED group one and all!
314 ladyhawkke that’s funny – I was thinking the same thing!! How many will that make now?
OMG, it just gets better. Obinden’s son is a lobbyist. Nobama claims he doesn’t like lobbyist. Conflict of interest here?
OMG, I am so voting a TOTAL REPUBLICAN TICKET!
Maybe then the UNdemocratic party will get the 3am memo!
#313 MsBinMD Debbie is from Florida, we are not a bound state. We are just putting pressure on her because Ricki says she is the leader and all will fall in line if she does.
blue blue gal – thanks for taking this on. really really kind of you as i’m sure you’re exhausted like everyone else. if you are able to gather some info, i’ll be happy to craft a letter if you feel that’s something you don’t have as much interest in or patience for. i’m taking a little break from the blog, but if you type an easy-to-find heading on your post, i’ll respond to it.
Folks, my head is spinning. Right now, I need a direct command as to what to do. Do we continue emailing superdelegates? I only have snail mail addresses for pledged delegates. Tell me what to have ready to take to the courthouse on Friday, if obama gets the nomination?
By the way, I think the “Seeing Double” poster is great. Especially, for the college students. They are back at school, ripe for picking, and I doubt very seriously they will be gathered ’round the TV watching the convention.
Anna….. women are suppose to be the givers.
Also there was a guy arrested at Nancy p’s office for packing a hunting rifle and a pistol ( I think) so they moved her.
#249 Rodham in Flag on 08.24.08 at 7:09 pm
Challenges to his nomination have to be submitted to the S of S in the states within certain time frames AFTER the party nominates him. When we get to that bridge, if jbjd has not returned we can contact her if we have to. She’s worked her heart out for this. Hopefully, she will help us charge on.
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NEVER GIVE UP; NEVER GIVE IN!
#320 Coloconnect Is Texas a bound state? I didn’t see it on the list. If it is, then the delegates must vote for Hillary on the first ballot. Try and do a search and find out. Unless someone else knows.
Robert Gibbs on Fox as Obama’s spokesperson comes across as the same old establishment. That is who BO is fronting for. Just another stupid white male doing whatever they have to do to stay in power to keep the playing field uneven. I am disgusted.
bythelake…. I like the 3 am memo idea
#332 Brooklyn NY We can go back to the previous posts and do a search (Ctrl F) and put jbjd in the search box at the bottom left, then all of her posts will come up.
By the say Brooklyn, that’s where I was born but went to Miami to live at 7 and have been a Floridian ever since. I consider myself a southerner.
I got an email from Biden…saying Hello… i sent him this
Obama citizenship lawsuit filed on Friday, August 22nd:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/001_ObamaMemSupportTRO082108.pdf
30 minute Preview of Documentary on Caucus Voter Fraud:
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
Boy this is getting exciting. Almost as good as the soprano’s LOL
The DNC has left both I and millions of other Democratic voters hanging like a freaking “CHAD”.
I have to agree with Donna Brazile’s statement, that if the “Will of the people” is overturned by Delegates, I will consider leaving the party.
#329 SunnyPA
Ditto … I’m numb right now. Who knows what’s next?!
We all have this nervous energy. Maybe we should hit our own court houses with Puma signs all at the same time in our towns.
#227 Texas Tigeress – LMAO – YOU ARE TOO FUNNY – I like your thought process within your head
LMAO…. Biden still calling Bambi “clean” on the news
334 Headclunker You are just “more determined right?
337 prowlland That is fantastic!!
By releasing her delegates Clinton shows she is not responsible if they choose to vote for her….she is not threatening her party.
By now everyone should know that we are Hillary supporters not “followers”. We do not have to toe the party lines and the delegates will still be able to vote Hillary. On the other hand, the supers are more subject to political persuasion and in this case many have been bought and paid for by Pelosi-Obama.
I hope someone is guarding our headquarters at night!! Denver PUMA’s stay safe.
My feelings for Joe Biden – PITY.
You misread the article, I am voting for Hillary 100%,thanks, Larry
llromo@sbcglobal.net
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I didnt miss read someone else did…but glad to hear he is staying with Hillary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#342 Rodham in Flag
Its the extra people she has n there talkng to her..
LOL J/k
328 Anna7000
thanks
Here’s the link for one of the webcams:
http://news.politicswest.com/livecam
CALIFORNIA AND VIRGINIA
Was downstairs…duh!! No time to read posts above – want to ensure that CA and VA are included. Sorry if you have covered this already. This is a repost
#270 ladyhawkke
[......... states identified with vote binding laws are Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Oregon and Tennessee. Their contact information and cites are attached. Stay tuned for more.]
ladyhawkke California was missing your list and I can confirm that California has a binding law. Comparing your list with Rickie’s at #154, Virginia is also missing. I cannot confirm that state.
California has too many delegates to miss – everyone please let the delegates know that they are legally bound to vote for Hillary and to ignore pressure to do otherwise.
Thanks for keeping this issue going ladyhawkke.
333 ladyhawkke
nope, not a bound state, ): ):
Here’s the link for another webcam. Other Pumas found both these links earlier today. I just saved them in my favorites.
http://www.denverpost.com/webcams
#341 LibertyPuma
OMIGOODNESS!!! You just reminded that I’m supposed to go to DNC headquarters and light a white candle in protest every evening of the convention. But, I think there are only three of us left in Pittsburgh…everyone else went to Denver. lol
I am sorry – may have missed this…what time is radio show EST?
#348 prowlland on 08.24.08 at 7:46 pm
Who is Larry? (Whoever he is I like him….
Smart guy).
JUST SAY NO TO BO AND JO !!!!!!!!
AND DONT FORGET MO!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A CIRCUS
#332 BrooklynNY jbjd’s extensive research was regarding the bound states. She researched the law in each and every state to find out which states were bound. They she contacted the Attorney General and SOS’s in those states and reported Obama and had the evidence of the letters to those delegates from his camp.
Sunny…… ooops
Update at
http://www.denverpost.com/live
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#346 4hillinca Someone posted earlier than our hdqrters is across the street from a Denver police station.
#98 NYCgirl, I am Carole from Ohio, 2 of my emails were read on Fox today. Also, someone (forgot his name) on Fox said that it didn’t make a difference if Hillary releases her delegates or not. The delegates can still vote the way they want and that it’s nothing more than a show of support from Hillary for the sake of unity so that if she does not become the nominee she will be in good standing with the Democratic Party when she runs again 2012.
Tornado touches down near castle rock colorado.
Stay safe pumas.
357 BrooklynNY
states Delegate from Texas
BINDING STATES:
(1) CALIFORNIA
(2) GEORGIA
(3) INDIANA
(4) KENTUCKY
(5) Massachusetts
(6) NEW HAMPSHIRE
(7) Oklahoma
(8) OREGON
(9) Tennessee
(10) Virginia
PROWLLAND, LOL! I have included those links on each and every letter I write to the supers. Must be making them nervous.
#356 Lorelai the radio show starts at 8:00 p.m. EST (in about 8 minutes).
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont
357 BrooklynNY
I asked him if he had any plus on what was going to happen in the meeting with Hillary wed.and to keep us informed
I hope it rains on BO’s picnic
366 ladyhawkke
I know i copied if off you comment…lol
#346 4hillinca, headquarters is across the street from a police station. How great is that!
THANK YOU ANNA 7000
ok = will really be lurking now – not only does husband require attention, but so does the dinner we are trying to get on table – thank you husband – but i will stay on the follow the money, write down what i find of interest, and share it with anna 7000 to see what we can get going –
maybe it would be just easier if emailed her spiritual advisor???!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL
That tornado is 22 miles southeast of Denver. It looks bad on news.
#365 Thanks Brooklyn, CA is a big state and she should have the majority of delegates there. The way the DNC kept giving Obama extra delegates was so corrupt, even as she was winning, they were giving him delegates he didn’t deserve.
The game is a foot!
Drop a line in this My Space political thread.
http://forums.myspace.com/t/4137206.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewthread&PageIndex=1&SortOrder=0
Fool alert.
366 ladyhawkke
But i have sent it to very delgates email i have !!
Go to the basement guys, tornado in the area!!
308 Gypsy,,,,,Love the comment …yes we are determined”….the old “bump and run”……journalism 101.
Anna- don’t think I haven’t noticed you ignoring me!
#359 ladyhawkke on 08.24.08 at 7:50 pm
Yes, I know, ladyhawkke and bless her heart for it.
She also did research about submitting challenges to BO’s name being submitted to states Sec of States after the party nominates him, if it does. Mainly to do with the bc issue.
There is a narrow legal window of opportunity to do it.
Any one know how to listen to blog radio and still comment on this blog?
#360 LibertyPuma
ROFL. I’ll stop by tomorrow evening to see if others are there. If not, oh well…I’m not that brave to go it alone.
I think I’ll just step up my flyer campaign around the campuses. I will use the “seeing double” flyer.
Wouldn’t Attorney Phillip Berg (filed the lawsuit) know what to do about contesting an obama nomination?
wow i havn’t stopped all day…going to kick back and listen to the blog radio
BLUE BLUE GAL -
Guess I used the wrong word when I said prowl. Just took this post from Ladyhawke (below) as something people would feel compelled to prowl on their own.
Hope many of us do.
Not in Florida, but she doesn’t know that. Think some good ideas as far as her political ambitions and associations provide us with ample ammunition even without the money trail. I would still be willing to bet she got some $$$ somewhere. Especially with Pelosi as her pal
Prowl people prowl!! _____________________________________________
“222 ladyhawkke on 08.24.08 at 6:59 pm From Ricki Lieberman on my telling he Debbie Wasserman Schultz wasn’t budging:
“Nonetheless, I would mobilize as many Floridians as you can to inundate her offices tomorrow with people insisting that she vote for HRC…
GO GO GO!!!”
Thanks Webfoot – (re radio show)
head for the basement Pumas!
OMG!!! go to CNN now
I JUST TALKED TO MARYLAND PUMA AND SHE TOLD ME THEY ARE GOING UPSTAIRS TO DO LIVE INTERVIEWS ON THE AIR..WHATEVER THAT MEANS. SHE DID TELL ME THAT WHERE THEY ARE STAYING HAS SECURITY. SHE IS SUPPOSE TO CALL ME BACK AND I WILL TRY TO POST WHERE IT IS THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE INTERVIEWING LIVE SO YOU GUYS CAN LISTEN……..IF SHE CALLS ME BACK…but she will because I have to put the baby puma to bed and she won’t go until momma calls……will be back
#332 prowlland give me the link, please
this is bad but i hope the tornado wipes out the pepsi center and goes right back up ,, and no one get hurt !!!
HILLARY IS BRILLIANT!
She is on the news now more than ’61! It all started with the home video at the fundraiser where the catharsis thing was mentioned. We did the job for her! The video got on YouTube and all of us sent it to the media. Then the media started talking about it and Hillary had “no choice” but to ask “O” to give her supporters the chance to cool off by giving her the “roll call”. In the meantime, she kept campaigning for ’61 like a devoted Democrat but knowing that we would keep pushing for her even though she was telling us to “be united behind ’61″. She did everything to please the Party but we are a wild group and did not listen to her, shame on us! LOL! Now, she even goes as far as announcing she is releasing her delegates but… before … she meets with all of the delegates to “thank them”… BRILLIANT! She knows ’61 cannot win but it will not be blamed on her! She was a “professional politician”, did everything in her power to help him, etc, etc, as CNN’s Gergen said a few minutes ago…
November comes and “O” loses… But time was not wasted because everything is now organized for her to win in a 2012 candidacy! She has all of our grassroot movements, she has women groups in her favor and she has the respect of whites, blacks, indians, seniors, juniors, gays, etc, etc. because she was honest and true to her Party. Isn’t she brilliant???
For PUMAs in Denver
http://www.presidentialexperience.com/index.html
Prowlland
ilromo said to ne “Absolutely, voting for Clinton, thanks.’
However, StDriscoll said:
‘I don’t know where you and your cohorts are getting your information regarding my vote at the convention. I have made no statement regarding my intent.
I do not appreciate being lectured on my responsibilities and obligations. Such hectoring will not endear me to your cause.
Please cease this harassment.’
Believe me I did not harass him at all.
Tornado in Denver:
They usually hit the suburbs east and south.
THE HILLARY DEBT
I heard all the stories and studied all the FEC reports that I could find. Hillary Clintons Presidential Campaign took in $2.5 million, spent $3.4 million and paid down the debt by $1.3 million. The problem is that there are other PACs and funds involved and some only file quarterly. Some I just cannot find. I may eventually be able to track the money trail if we really need to prove something, but not at this time. I, personally do not feel the need to do so. I checked my cash donations and they were where I sent them, although I do not see the T-shirt stuff.
The bottom line is that the money was donated towards her debt to prevent that from keeping her off the ballot at the convention. As far as I can tell, it was used to maintain operations and get her on the ballot. After all, she is on the ballot.
#380 Stoney42
I just get onto the show and then minimize it go back to this blog. I can listen and do other things on the blog.
#380stoney42 you open another tab. Not much help I know; my kids showed me how. One of them is here right now if you need specific directions.
391 BigCatLover
I didnt either … oh well
Please do not joke about tornadoes. I am terrified of them and my mother is up there. Is it true that they have tornadoes.
Also told Maryland Puma that we need a new thread. This one is getting long.
#380 stoney42, open a new window and go to blog radio then you can listen to the radio while remaining here on the blog.
Sorry I meant my daughter is up there. I don’t even know who I am anymore!
what was on cnn?
I just received this email and it deserves a real PUMA response!!!!!!!!!!!!!Go get ‘em PUMAs
Charles Cates cpcates@sbcglobal.net
If Hillary had run in 2004 but Kerry still had gotten the nomination would you have voted for Bush? Will you subject this nation to another 4 years of Bush-style policies out of spite for Obama? And in hopes that the only true candidate can run in 2012 (assuming we still have a democracy then)? Why don’t you just write-in Dick Cheney instead? COMNTSMF (Cutting Off My Nose To Spite My Face) might be a better acronym for this movement but if McCain is elected because of your abandoning the Democratic party you will be forever known as PUMAs (Pushed Up My Ass!). Bill certainly believes in a cult of personality but I doubt Hillary really does. I would love for her to be the first female President of the United States but I think it’s pretty stupid (and selfish) to try to ruin any chance of a Democratic presidency until she’s the only candidate. I’m a Democrat, not a Obama-maniac but I don’t want another 4 years of right-wing disasters!
Charles Cates
Austin, Texas
Yes it is TRUE that a tornado hit southeast of Denver. I would NEVER joke about that! It came over FOX news. They were showing pictures of it.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME THE LINK TO THE RADIO SHOW. THANKS
Do you mean it hit today or when and how far is that from PUMA Headquaters?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/08/25/NO-WE-WONT
what was on CNN?
Thanks John for this one
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Rendell goes off over Obama loving media coverage
Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell was supposed to give “closing remarks” during this afternoon’s Shorenstein Center-sponsored panel discussion with all three Sunday show moderators — NBC’s Tom Brokaw, ABC’s George Stephanopoulous and CBS’s Bob Schieffer — but instead, he opened up a can of worms about bias in 2008 election coverage
“Ladies and gentleman, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing,” said Rendell, in the ballroom at Denver’s Brown Palace Hotel. “It was embarrassing.”
Continue Reading:
http://countusout.wordpress.com
Hang in there Puma’s …you are not alone!
Will on Fox briefly…
Hillary was robbed!
#404 Crusaders Cross, yes there was a tornado but it was 22 miles away from Denver! No injuries just things getting blown around. PUMA’s in Denver are SAFE.
Whatever time I first posted I was watching it and Fox was showing pictures. Appeared it just happened.
If McCain picked Powel
Captain America and Iron man
The Avengers!
http://colinresponse.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/american20ironman1st21.jpg
Crusader’s Cross the radio show is on right now.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont
Crusaders Cross
Tornado did not hit in downtown Denver where Pumas are, but outside of Denver. They are braodcasting a radio show from Puma HQ and not even mentioning the weather.
On CNN they are showing John McCain as potential winner.
Man, this Charles Cates guy just doesn’t get it.
We are not voting for McCain out of spite (because Hillary is not the nominee) we are doing it because this whole process was unfair and Obama was chosen NOT picked by “The People”. We also DO NOT TRUST him. What is soooooooo hard to understand about that???
This was an article posted by jdjb ref to Georgia AG
Thursday, August 21, 2008
Attorney General Tells GA Delegates They Can’t Switch Their Vote At The Convention
I’ve confirmed with two members of the state’s Democratic National Convention delegation that Attorney General Thurbert Baker sent them a letter informing them that they could not switch their vote to another presidential candidate if they are a pledged delegate to someone else.
Two delegates pledged to New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Shannon Marietta of Dougherty County and Cheryl Williams of Gwinnett County, both said they received a letter from the Attorney General stating that they could not switch their vote until Sen. Clinton released them or she received less than 35% of the vote during the roll call vote.
The Attorney General’s letter cites an relatively unknown section of Georgia’s presidential preference primary law that states Any person selected as a delegate or delegate alternate to such national convention shall file a qualification oath with the Secretary of State pledging support at the convention to the candidate of their political party or body for the office of President of the United States for whom they are selected to support. The oath shall state that the delegate or delegate alternate affirms to support such candidate until the candidate is either nominated by such convention or receives less than 35 percent of the votes for nomination by such convention during any balloting, or until the candidate releases the delegates from such pledge. No delegate shall be required to vote for such candidate after two convention nominating ballots have been completed. [Source: Official Code of Georgia Annotated 21-2-196]
Both Clinton delegates said they planned on voting for New York’s junior Senator on the first ballot anyway.
I’m currently working on getting a copy of the letter.
Posted by Andre at 11:15 AM
Labels: Democratic National Convention
My web cam pics don’t move. Everyone has turned to stone because Hillary has not been selected as our candidate!!!
Murphy just said they are shutting down the show for a second because she is going to take control of the switchboard. So, if you don’t hear anything it’s okay.
Particularly in states that are pledged and/or voted for Hillary in the primaries, it’s also impt to contact your:
(1) Democratic Congressperson
(2) Governor
(3) US Senators
They are the leaders of their state’s delegations. Urge them to encourage their delegations to vote for Hillary on the first ballot (and succeeding ballots).
Radio show reports that story about Clinton releasing delegates came from AP and if you watched the news on the last day of the primary, they reported false AP stories all day to keep down the number of votes for Hillary. They just plain lie. Do not believe any report coming from the AP.
#417
I clicked on the pictures and then got moving pictures.
The radio show is back and Murphy is saying everything is great at headquarters.
bythelake
What do you mean showing McCain as the potential winner?Are they doing a poll? How are they coming up with this?
It does sound promising…If not Hillary, then McCain!
wooooo hooooo they ar saying on CNN that we Hill supporters are putting it to Obama. Yippy! The polls ar kicking Obamas ass
#401 NobamaNetwork that guy also doesn’t get that Kerry isn’t BO. And he doesn’t get that the DNC messed up. And he doesn’t get that caucuses were fraudulently run. He’s clueless on a lot of points.
378 Lorelai
there are some of us trying to concoct a letter to ms debbie wasserman schultz –
as a fellow “maven” maybe you would like to add your .02 cents worth?
so far there is: anna7000, MsBinMD & BrooklynNY,
i would really like to try to hit her in her religious affliation arena. that would be where her constituent demographic would be made up of. if i am off base here, let me know – all of you.
obama bin biden
sounds phonetically
like obl
scare
and 57 states
CNN had a state map and it showed McCain with more delegates with McCain. They said if Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Pa voted republican, McCain will win, period.
I think the DNC and delegates should watch CNN.
Nobama/Nobiden
November, will not win!
webfoot, I can’t begin to guess how many emails I have gotten just like that over the past 2 months. So many people don’t get it and they think and speak in MSM headlines. I did write him back and here is my response:
Hello Charles,
I am afraid you have been misinformed about the movement and are speaking in CNN (which had been renamed ONN for biased reporting) headlines. The actions of the DNC who, with their dirty tricks and backroom deals, ignored the American voters and selected the candidate they had been grooming for the past few years. This movement is not a group of racist older white women Hillary supporters. That is a label created by the news media. This movement is made up of Americans who clearly see the danger in a political organization who thinks their rules supercedes the Constitution of the United States of America.
This is not about any one candidate. Had you been paying attention you would have notice the DNC and Barack Obama’s actions reminded this country how fragile and vulnerable our Democracy really is. This is the time to speak up and remind the Democrats they do not get to ignore the American voters and “pick” the President.
As to Barack Obama, he is the most dangerous politician to come along in decades. If you watched the show at Saddleback last week you saw a man who will do anything to get elected. On national television, sitting in church, he lied about his hardest decision being the vote on the Iraq war. That vote took place in 2002 and Barack Obama was not a US Senator until 2005. It speaks volumes about is character.
We have received complaint after complaint from Delegates who are being threatened, intimidated, and replaced for speaking up and saying they will not support Obama because they were elected by their peers to support Hillary (who has not released her delegates). This is America where we have a process to electing our President. Obama had nothing to do with allowing Hillary’s name to be put into nomination, it is her Constitutional right!
Obama is a moot point and his legal difficulties will soon keep him from ever being elected. And to say that McCain is a continuation of Bush, again screams you are speaking in campaign slogans.
Before sending more of your hate mail you should take the time to educate yourself. Look on my website, there are over 500 places to start that education.
Blue Blue Gal – My Spiritual Advisor is on vacation, but great Plan B. I still be on the look out for any posts from you if you want any assistance with the letter once you gather data. But, no pressure. You may find the process of searching is too arduous, so give yourself a break if you hit the wall.
Lorelai – You noticed. Yes, I have been ignoring you! (That’s cause I like you so much!). But, now that I’m not, please let me say I was quite impressed that while half way across the country on some presumed “vacation” you managed to be first on a recent thread. Geez, girl. That was something! OK. Back to ignoring…
Hello PUMAS !! just hours before the big event!! I received an email from Obama-Biden, and I replied :
Dear Senator Biden,
Thank you for your email. I have always believed that you are a great candidate to be the president of the United States. During the debates, I always saw you as a decent candidate, and I sometimes believed you could be the Democratic nominee.
But I am sorry to express my disappointment when you accepted to be Senator Obama’s VP. The country is before the party, and we both know that Senator Obama is far from being ready to be president, and has carried out a campaign full of lies, under a promised changed that will never be real.
I have always voted Democrats all my life, not this time, even with you as VP. It all started when Obama and the Dem. Party treated Hilalry the way they did. You said it once, Obama is not ready to be president, what are you doing becoming his VP now? It’s a real pity and I am sorry if my honesty lacks the respect you really deserve. Your life has proven to be different, and you have had a great career as a decent politician, but this move has left me in big shock.
Can you save Obama? Perhaps yes, but you are not the candidate running for President, if you were, I would vote my heart and my mind for you as I have always done for all Democrats, but not this time.
I regret that I have to vote for a Republican candidate for the first time in my life, but I can’t feel that I am being faithful to my country if I vote for Obama.
I still hope that at the convention, superdelegates will give Hillary the place she deserves, and you can run to be her VP, I will gladly vote for you then.
Thank you for your time.
Oscar P.
Miami, FL
Once again, be safe and do not let others fall for their traps. Let’s show them we can be respectful and at the same time respected!! I will come back here later!!
Blue Blue Gal – My Spiritual Advisor is on vacation, but great Plan B. I still be on the look out for any posts from you if you want any assistance with the letter once you gather data. But, no pressure. You may find the process of searching is too arduous, so give yourself a break if you hit the wall.
Lorelai – You noticed. Yes, I have been ignoring you! (That’s cause I like you so much!). But, now that I’m not, please let me say I was quite impressed that while half way across the country on some presumed “vacation” you managed to be first on a recent thread. Geez, girl. That was something! OK. Back to ignoring…
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WE ARE NOT BITTER!!!! WE ARE THE BRAVE ONES!!!!
I copied this from another blog… but as far as the word “bitter” is concerned I loved this …. we are not BITTER anymore!!!
“To me though the word “bitter” will now forever have a personal meaning, a private connotation, if you will. When I hear bitter, I think brave. Brave because it is hard to speak truth to power, scary to attract nasty name-calling, risky to stick to your principles when friends, family, and co-workers (and sometimes bosses) pressure you to surrender them. It takes guts to stick to one’s commitment to Senator Clinton or to an authentically democratic Democratic National Convention. I am absolutely impressed that so many of the people I know displaying the necessary fortitude are people who are not protected by personal privilege or position. I am appalled at the lack of fortitude displayed by some who have these safeguards to fall back upon.
One thing is for sure: this political season it is the bitter who are brave.
People just don’t get it…
They need to ask…Who would they hire?
With experience comes the knowledge of what works and what does not work. With experience comes the wisdom of not only recognizing you strengths, but your weakness. With experience comes the integrity understanding your failures and never repeating mistakes. With experience, you develop confidence and mostly…a spine. Hillary has a history of fighting for what is right for all Americans. Her experience would lead America in the right direction. Having gone through seven plant closings, downsizings, and relocations, I understand the importance of ‘Experienced Required”. Why should it be any different in an election? We need to hire the candidate who has a proven track record. I never got hired based on popularity or delivering BS, but on what I was able to bring to that employer and perform DAY ONE! Who would you hire and trust with the most important job in the world?
We need to vote WHATS GOOD THE COUNTRY, not what’s good for the Party.
Next to Hillary, McCain is the next qualified!
don’t know how THAT happened – a double post split down the middle. sorry.
We need to write to all media outlets and let them know that it does not matter what Hillary says. She is not the one who tore the party apart and she can not fix it.
We have to try and take some of the blame off of her if we can.
#431 Nobama Network excellent response.
The headlines in today Sunday Seattle Paper read: “Delegates Grumpy, Party Still Split”
Blitzer sad that we hill supporters should support Obama because he has Hills platform. DUGH!!! “HILLS PLATFORM… get a clue
All of this … sigh. Is the reason I no longer have any faith in any of our governmental / election processes. People who choose to make a stand for what is intrinsically right – are shoved down. Raising a voice for what is right, just and fair – crushes the career and life’s work of another by the very institution that was supposedly designed to ALLOW people to have a voice. Grrr…
Take care everyone
redraz9 – i think your idea is great to put on the top of the post convention “to do” list!!! might want to e-mail it to murphy after she gets back. others have also posted how absurd it is that the burden is being placed on clinton to unify the party, when it’s obama’s burden to bear, not to mention, fulfillment of his freaking promise.
(me thinks me didn’t take a long enough break.)
argh… I am going to need a break.
Living Grace – That’s the second best headline I can imagine! Thanks for sharing it!
tHIS CONVENTION IS LIKE DRAWING A SMILIE FACE ON A FACE THAT ISN’T SMILING…… CAN’T YOU JUST SEE THE MESS IT WOULD BE…..
just came back on. I received an e-mail from the McCain camp. It’s the video that was released last night. probably most of you have it already..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NrQ36Djf2E
BITTER: acronym for
Brave, Intelligent, Thoughtful, Tenacious, Energetic Rebels
Don’t mind being a member of that club at all!
Today’s polls show no bump, and an even/steven split of 45%
Powerful reading from soldierforhillary’s blog
http://anvp.wordpress.com/
where oh where oh where is jbjd?
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#430 bythelake – McCain will take PA in Nov.
PUMAS – we have just begun. It will not end with this convention or in November.
Nobama, Nobiden, noway.
If the DNC overturns the will of the people in Denver this week and selects O as their nominee, then we will remember in November.
I will, with a heavy heart, vote for McCain in November. And I will continue to vote OUT every Pennsylvania delegate who cast their vote for Obama – in every election from now on for as long as it takes to clean up our Democratic party.
We will not give in, we will not give up, we will not fall in line…and we WILL remember in November!
Until then, I will continue to email as many delegates as I can every day until my fingers freeze up, to remind them of their moral obligation to reflect the will of the people of their respective states and cast their votes for Hillary Clinton. – the PEOPLE’S CHOICE!
#448 Anna7000
Sounds like a very good poster idea. Hmmm.
403 Nobama Network
Oooooh that made me mad. (well, I was still mad from earlier, and yes, obviously I can’t stay away)
so here is my response to him:
Dear Mr. Cates,
I read your response to another PUMA, and was quite shocked at the nastiness, but on to the point.
In our opinion, voting for whoever the DNC selects for us regardless of the votes of the public, or voter intimidation, or caucus fraud, or blatant and continual misogyny, or media fawning, is short-sighted.
Sir, I don’t need to check my voter registration card to decide what my values and positions are.
This election is being run as if we are in Kenya- it is a farce. As a patriotic freedom loving democrat, I will do my duty to KEEP THE PARTY HONEST.
If you care more about the economy then you do your voice in government, if you care more about “sticking it” to the Republicans then you care about citizens feeling as if they are respected and heard and treated as equals, then YOU go right ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face. Let the party lead you wherever it decides you should go. Good luck with that.
Sincerely,
Lisa
Portsmouth, Rhode Island
PUMA
SunnyPA – Thanks so much for posting that link. Great, great article.
#436 PAGuy
That is the best description of “experience” that applies to this election. You’re right, BO brings nothing to the table.
#403 NobamaNetwork
He must be making the rounds. My reply to him on PUMALatinos….
I find your example to be very weak. This is a whole different ballgame. Senator Clinton garnered half the vote. The DNC is doing everything in its power to force Obama down our throats. I find it embarrassing as a Democrat that the DNC would try to pass him off as a viable candidate. He has destroyed the Democratic party. There is and will be no unity. I am not willing to take a chance on this country’s future with an unqualified and inexperienced candidate such as Obama. You are entitled to do as you feel is right and so am I. I choose my country before my party.
I guarantee that if Obama walks out of the convention with the nomination I will use this website to reach out to Senator Clinton’s Hispanic supporters so that they will be able to make an informed decision. Check back, you might learn something.
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Blue Blue Gal – I would be honored as a fellow maven.
Can you let me know what you have so far so I’m not redundant? I would be happy to add even four cents!
Ofcourse you are not way off base….Let me just take off my tiara for a sec.
By the way, I noticed someone on the blog is usurping my title – PrincessJen? Who are you?
Anna- I WILL take that as a compliment. And don’t even ask how I was first on the thread. Dumb luck.
I’ve read three good books so far tho!
Blue Blue Gal,
jbjd gave us her email address, but I am hesitant to post it. She did, but that was her decision. Would you like me to send it to you?
#458 dcinlasvegas – Thank you!
TY EWard #457
Anna7000……….. question.. in seating fla and MI as full votes, what does that really change at this point ?? if anything?
I have to take care of my mother in law now. If anything to report from radio show would someone kindly do a brief post. Thanks
Kendalblue
it changes the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, and puts Hillary much closer.
this guy is another correa or chavez
and he is not the only one that have made the party trash, there the pelois, the deans, the brazilel, etc
lorelai – read three “good books”?!* i thought you were reading trashing novels, which are so appropriate for vacation reading!
blue blue gal – i’m not working on any letter till i hear from you that you either 1) have numbers and/or 2) don’t have numbers but would like help with a letter anyway.
kendalblue – not sure why you’re asking me this. maybe you saw another post about it and confusing it with my name.
448 Anna7000 and Determined Energetic Patriotic Rebels Just had to add that….
lorelai – uh oh. major type in my second sentence. sure you caught it with your hawk eye and sharp spelling sensibility.
1gypsy4mc – i KNEW you’d never let that post of mine slide!!!
Like a said earlier…
Obama may be able to bounce a basketball, but he cannot bounce in the POLLS!
: )
#472 PA Guy, how true!
CNN poll: Post-Biden poll shows dead heat
Posted: 06:25 PM ET
DENVER, Colorado (CNN) — It’s a dead heat in the race for the White House. The first national poll conducted entirely after Barack Obama publicly named Joe Biden as his running mate suggests that battle for the presidency between the Illinois senator and Republican rival John McCain is all tied up…This looks like a step backward for Obama, who had a 51 to 44 percent advantage last month…So what’s the difference now?
It may be supporters of Hillary Clinton, who still would prefer the Senator from New York as the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee.”
Ya think???
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/24/cnn-poll-post-biden-poll-shows-dead-heat/#more-13948
Go PUMAs!!!
If Hillary releases her delegates before the first ballot, I will not be able to vote for Hillary in any future election. We and she must defend the right of the voters.
I’m tired of the Democratic games and rules. At this point, the DNC may be destroying any possibility that I will vote democratic again.
Anna7000…….No, I was listening to it on fox news but just tail end of it. The DNC took a vote today to reinstate the 2 states. Just thought you might know what it means if anything,
1gypsy4mc………… hey blue girl !!
Posted on [[Soldier4Hillary TV: "You can be known as individuals who sat on the sideline and did nothing, or known as individuals who helped save a nation and push our country forward. The choice is yours to make. You will have only one chance to make the right decision, and our fate lies with you."]] This pertains to us also – stay determined and focused
good night pumas
until tomorrow
the lawsuit is at a dead end???
Of course it is stressful for us but think of how Hillary must feel. At least she has a very strong family and many, many people respect her including Republicans who respect her enough to push for BO. One thing we can all do is light a candle for Hillary or say a prayer. The path forward will become more and more obvious in the next few days. Relax, things need to incubate and then we will see what is needed and move forward in our resistance. We are a group of people who do not have trouble seeing what is happening. That may not sound like much but so many have been blind that seeing reality is a lot.
good night everyone, need to rest for tomorrow’s battles.
Anna – “trashy” and “good’ are not mutually exclusive!
And, ofcourse, there are typos, but I am vacation from grammar police!
p.s. Also major typo in your correction of your typo post! Methinks you need a rest from the blog too!
Good night , go ohio , you Fox news superstar !!!!!!
This is the response I got from Charles in response to the email I sent regarding comment #403.
or the DNC is guilty of voter fraud then I’m all for kicking them out for it and bringing them to trial. But I want proof and not just rants. Put me on your email list if you have real, concrete proof (and I’ll confess I don’t have a TV–not that brings you news anyway–and get my news via DemocracyNow.org, BBC World Service, and the Al Jazeera English web stream) and I’ll support you 100%. Keep up the blogs and make your voices known at the convention. But I don’t want 4 more years of any Republican. It’ll take a Democrat to undo what they’ve already done!
Regards,
Charles
I think this is a fair response and if anyone has those videos of voter fraud to send him, that’d be good.
I wrote him back saying he’s lucky to not be watching the news BS but that being an obviously intelligent human being, had he had to suffer through it as we did, these many months, he’s most certainly have come to the conclusion of corruption.
For those interested in contacting the media, here’s a piece that just came out in the NT Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/25/us/politics/25delegatesweb.html?_r=1&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
Are some of the people who post here, like leaders, or something?
I really think we need to contact the media during the convention, instead of after. I will go back through emails and get the media emails addresses for the media.
But I am not very good at writing the letters. If someone will write a letter for me, stating that Hillary is not responsible for dividing the party and she can not unite it. Make it profound…….lol. If someone will do that I will put it all togeather and you can email me and I will send it to you with the email addresses.
It’s kind of a round about way to do a prowl, but I’m game if people you want to do it.
My email is redraz99@hotmail.com
Lorelai…………how is your vacation ??
Sorry, I forgot to proof that one before hitting send….lol
lorelai – i KNEW you’d latch onto the whole trashy/good thing, you clever whippersnapper, you!
That show was Grrrrrrrrrate!
#484 Kerri
Send him this
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
471 Anna7000 I was just teasing you – I liked your definition!!
477 KENDALBLUE Hi, good evening Kindred Spirit – hope everything is going OK for you?
Hey Everyone — amazing day today. we met hundreds of Pumas from all over the country today.
Hoppin in the shower now — I forgot my hair dryer. Hopefully sheri will let me borrow hers.
New post up — feel free to repost comments –
Take it upstairs!
Here is something good to read about an interview with our friend Chris Matthews moving leg freak in love with Obama…..
Barack Obama desperately needs the support of Bill and Hillary Clinton voters if he’s to win the presidential race in November — and so far he’s not getting it.
That’s the view expressed by NBC News political director Chuck Todd during an appearance with host Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Wednesday. Republican John McCain and Democrat Obama have “carved up” the partisan vote and “the vote that is left to get is a vote that loves Hillary Clinton,” Todd said.
“They make less than $50,000. They’re Catholics … They live in small towns and rural America, the places that Bill Clinton spent all his time campaigning. And oh, by the way, they love Bill Clinton.”
Matthews stated that 11 percent of voters “are sitting out there, loving the Clintons, not liking Barack Obama. What has to happen between now and November to get that critical 11 percent to move into Barack Obama’s column?”
What is needed, Todd observed, is for both Hillary and especially Bill Clinton to speak strongly in support of Obama at the Democratic Convention and convince the undecided that Obama is ready to be president.
Todd: “The Clintons have to make the case, I know this guy, he’s ready, I like him, he can lead.”
Matthews: “Can they do it?”
Todd: “I don’t know.”
Todd said he’s confident that Hillary will express strong support for Obama, but added: “It’s the Bill Clinton question, I think, that a lot of people are going to watch.”
Matthews noted that people believe Bill is angry about the way the Barack campaign dealt with him in the primaries and is reluctant to help him win.
Said Todd: “You’ve got to assume he’s going to say and do all the right things. But how does he say it? What kind of enthusiasm is behind it?…
“Maybe the election eventually won’t be about the Clintons, but … whether Obama likes it or not, the group of voters he has yet to unite are Clinton Democrats.”
466 lisa ……. thanks lisa. appreciate your response. I know it SHOULD chang the results, but at this point I would think it is still symbolic. My biggest question would be about Michigan. Oh well, if it really might make a difference, they would not have done it I guess.
thanks
#485 Anna7000
I don’t trust a damn thing NYTimes, CNN, MSNBC, and any others say since they lost credibility with me when they ceased being journalists… and instead took up the role of being Obama’s personal press secretaries. So I’m just saying that the article posted doesn’t hold any weight due to the source of that article.
what is going on in dnc
is disgusting, revolting, filthy
I hope it has a boomrang effect
I got a reply back from Charles cates as well. I was impressed. Quick somebody with the links needs to send him some youtubes of caucus fraud etc. ! Here is his response to me.
Hi Lisa,
I apologize for any nastiness; it was not intended. I voted for Hillary here in the Texas primary but I just feel it’s most important to have a Democrat in the White House. If the DNC has done wrong (and I’ll certainly admit I’m not up on what’s been going on in this regard) then they should not only be called on it but ousted if not charged with a crime. But I still think asking people to vote for McCain rather than the zfr,pvtsyov candidate (whoever that candidate is and however they got there)
really is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We can’t stand 4 more years of these people and McCain isn’t really a maverick or a moderate. I’ve heard from a PUMA support who felt Obama is too liberal and thought we needed a more centrist candidate. That isn’t my idea of the Democratic party. More like Paul Wellstone is how I’d like to see them. But make your charges at the convention and back them up. If there’s enough publicity that could get out (if that’s possible these days) there’s still a chance Hillary could be the candidate. I’ll vote for that candidate whoever they are.
Regards,
Charles
Here’s the reply I received from Mr. Cates:
Hi Beverly,
I certainly agree with you about Reid, Pelosi, and Dean in so far as I think they’ve caved under to the Bush/Cheney gang. And I’ll admit I don’t know much about Obama as I should. I’m just afraid McCain will owe too much to the lobbyists and evangelicals (not that Bush did them much good) when he’s elected. And he did leave his crippled wife for his younger, richer mistress! I’d like to see both the DNC & RNC replaced and have much, much more oversight on rules & procedures on selecting candidates, delegates and election rules. Certainly your vote is your own and its obvious you’re a concerned voter. I just think it’ll take a Democrat to undo what’s been done in the past 89 years.
Regards,
Charles
We didn’t get much gossip from the radio show on what’s been happening in Denver. Sherri said she was tired, so maybe tomorrow we’ll get more info.
Sent Texas Tigress…thanks.
#486 LivingGrace
“Are some of the people who post here, like leaders, or something?”
We consider all of us leaders if we stand up for what is right and stand up to the corruption.
Quick Update
MP needs someone to watch AOL, Tommy Christopher. He ambushed PUMA PAC today. They were outside talking to the French Press and he butted in.
WE are all leaders in a sense, but yes … Murphy and Mamapuma, and maryland puma do so much of the background work … and they do post here…. Murphy started the PUMAPAC
upstairs
redraz9 – this is crunch time in my household so little time, but here’s a draft of something you’re free to use as you see fit, per your #487 post. it’s hardly “profound” (lol), but it’s a framework from which to work if you want to use it:
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To whom it may concern:
Regarding the Democratic National Convention, the media has often reinforced the DNC’s call for unity, which has not infrequently pinned this responsibility on Senator Clinton. However, I would like to remind you that it is not Senator Clinton’s responsibility to unite the Democratic party. Instead, the primary responsibility lies with the presumptive nominee, Senator Obama. In fact, it is he who has proclaimed a great desire and commitment to unify the party. As of this writing, he appears unable to fulfill that promise.
Senator Clinton has gone above and beyond doing her part, some might say even more than what would be reasonably expected of any other candidate who won the popular vote and who won more primaries than any other candidate in history.
It would be refreshing if the press, starting with your news organization, would point this out.
Sincerely,
redraz9 – this is crunch time in my household so little time, but here’s a draft of something you’re free to use as you see fit, per your #487 post. it’s hardly “profound” (lol), but it’s a framework from which to work if you want to use it:
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To whom it may concern:
Regarding the Democratic National Convention, the media has often reinforced the DNC’s call for unity, which has not infrequently pinned this responsibility on Senator Clinton. However, I would like to remind you that it is not Senator Clinton’s responsibility to unite the Democratic party. Instead, the primary responsibility lies with the presumptive nominee, Senator Obama. In fact, it is he who has proclaimed a great desire and commitment to unify the party. As of this writing, he appears unable to fulfill that promise.
Senator Clinton has gone above and beyond doing her part, some might say even more than what would be reasonably expected of any other candidate who won the popular vote and who won more primaries than any other candidate in history.
It would be refreshing if the press, starting with your news organization, would point this out.
Sincerely,
ok… not very lady like. I told biden that Puma’s were going to rip him and the annointed one a new “ass”.
My post at CNN
America should come first!
I am a life-long Democrat. However, after this election, I feel I can no longer support a Party that continues to abuse its’ power for personal gain. The will of the people, 18,000,000, have been disenfranchised by Pledged Delegates/Super Delegates.
I will not vote for Obama nor will I will sit back and accept the Presumptuous Nominee. The DNC wants us to unite for the good of the Party…BS. What about what’s good for America. That should be the main focus
I will vote for the person who has the most qualifications, the most accomplishments, and the most experience to fill the most important job in the world. To support someone of lesser qualities is SAME ‘OL POLITICS.
What is important is who is going to lead this country in the right direction. There is no time for On the Job Training for BHO. There is no time for amassed middle management and mentors to aid BHO in decision making. He criticized Bill and Hillary for old style politics and the need for change. Where does Biden fit in for CHANGE?
I don’t trust Obama. His religion, his patriotism, his poor judgment and associations, and his voting record as a part-time senator concern me.
If Hillary chooses to do what is right for America, she will drop out of the race; and re-enter as an Independent or McCain VP.
Whatever Hillary chooses, I hope it is because of her decision and not Party pressure. For Hillary to go against her own conscious and beliefs would be sad.
Fight for America
God Bless America
Hillary 2008
A Vote for Obama………………………from my cold dead hands………..
#486 LivingGrace
Hi! The leaders of Puma Pac and others are in Denver. Welcome to our group and please feel free to browse to understand our movement and goals. So many projects are happening now that it is hard to keep up.
Each morning there is usually a summary paragraph for new Puma Pac members at the top of the thread.
Dam….they closed the comments
#486 living grace
i know i am not
but believe me the ones that are denver and some that are here, whether they want to admit it or not THE YARE
I think they said Pelosi on fox
oh daughter
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#504 paDem
Who is Tommy Christopher?
SHE SAID A LOOOOOT OF MEDIA ARE ARRIVING FOR THE FILM PREMIERE AT PUMA HEADQUARTERS!!!
#486 living grace Murphy is the founder of PUMA PAC. She is the moderator of the entire website. Maryland Puma fills in for her at times. We also have moderators for the various regions around the country. All the moderators, to my knowledge, post on the blog.
Off to dinner. Catch you all later.
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The Pelosi re-election……even if the Witch of the DNC gets re-elected and the Dems maintain majority in the House doesn’t mean that she will retain her precious seat as Speak since the speaker must be voted into the position by the majority caucus and if that majority caucus is composed of NEW PUMA HILLARY DEMS then she is in trouble even with all her threats of political isolation to anyone that goes agains the Queens Rule.
So it is up to us to make sure that a NEW CONGRESS is put into place and correspond with them that anyone that supports Pelosi shall feel the retribution of the American Public strong and swiftly.
It is time for the American People to take the country back and remind all that want to be politicians that the are hired by and fired by us and work for us as the CEO’s of their fates.
Go forth and take our country back from the hands of the unworthy and the corrupt!
#365 If California is a binding state – then when don’t we all have a prowl with so many of the delegates there switching over – could make a difference – sorry if this is a repeat post from someone else – been watching Closing Cermonies of Olympics – I am ready to send emails to anyone in California if you have the names.
rlp33
Charles is currently watching
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
If Puma grows and gets respect as a pac we will get lots of people like him. Trying to understand….maybe not a convert…but you guys are doing a good job stirring interest and educating people.
Go Pumas!
#487 redraz9
“I really think we need to contact the media during the convention, instead of after. I will go back through emails and get the media emails addresses for the media.
But I am not very good at writing the letters. If someone will write a letter for me, stating that Hillary is not responsible for dividing the party and she can not unite it”
=========================================
I support your idea, we need to focus again in sending letters to the media and the delegates.
By the way, anybody knows how to change parties?
I was not voting if Hillary wasn’t the candidate, but the way things are coming out, I decided to vote for McCain.
#528 ElyLos Angeles I think changing parties is different in the various states. And some Pumas have mentioned time frames for each state before elections. I live in Washington State and we don’t have to declare a party affiliation; we just vote how we want. We even mix and match. That is, we can vote for the person we feel is best rather than sticking to one party.
Hello #524 GBPuma….I agree and will work towards ridding the Democrat Party of Pelosi and others that campaigned and stood up for Obama. I keep asking myself and others HOW COULD THEY BACK HIM ? What were they thinking ?? We wanted to WIN this election, why did they think the voters would accept this marginal , wanna be tin horn dictator,(phoney rallies,faked Presidential seal, salutes,empty slogans and no record!). I am guessing the DNC had so little regard for their voters they thought we would fall for this American Idolization of the Presidency…guess what….we are not buying it and November will tell the tale. We need to warn our counties and cities about ACORN voter fraud ..we cannot allow this corrupt group to steal this election..if we don’t stand up and make noise the DNC, and all of the power brokers behind them, will continue on with these practices and our vote will never count again. Democracy is fragile and we, the people, are the only ones to protect it. Sorry for the rant..just very upset that Hillary is going to release her delegates. Seems there is no one fighting for us..the little guys..the voters,remember us ?
I sent this to a delegate and got a positive response.
Don’t you wish Gore in 2000 had kept trying to get the votes counted
and uphold a fair election process, instead of being shouted down as
‘Sore Loserman’?
If Gore had got in the White House, we might never had had 9/11; he
and Bill Clinton had foreseen that kind of terrorism and set up
precautions, which Bush disregarded.
That was Bush’s big inexperience mistake — that and starting the Iraq
war. Because Bush was an inexperienced person who had nothing to run
on except a claim of ‘good judgement’.
Who knows what inexperience mistake Obama will make? Bush got us into
a ground war, Obama may get us into WWIII. Bush just thought he had
‘smarts’. Obama thinks he’s some sort of chosen messiah destined to
heal the whole planet.
We need a sane honest leader. If not Hillary, then McCain.
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BoombaPUMA arrived in Denver last night, just in time for the awesome opening of Brad Mays “The Audacity of Democracy”. There was standing room only, with lots of press in attendance, filming and interviewing. A big night for PUMAs!
I just posted this comment on No Quarter:”I arrived in Denver Sunday evening to view some of the documentary films exposing rampant fraud in the caucuses, which by the way, is one of the tactics
that Obama supporters used in an attempt to lock down the nomination and short circuit the will of the American people thru one person one vote. Many foreign newspapers and journalists were here covering the story. If the American press is not interested, there are still some non-corporatists around. Also the Denver
airport had an abundance of quite garrish Obama T-shirts for sale in the shops and young BOTS at the baggage claim areas to greet and “enforce” the message for all arriving BOTS.”
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