What We Want

 

What We Want

We have scores of temperance men,
Bold and earnest, brave and true,
Fighting with the tongue and pen,
And we value what they do.

 But, my friends,

To gain our ends,

You must use the ballot, too.

 

When we tell about our cause,

Politicians only smile;

While they mould and make our laws,

What care they for rank or file?

 

“Preach and pray,”

They sneer and say;

“We’ll make liquor laws the while.”

 

We want men who dare to fling

Party ties and bonds away;

Who will cast them off, and cling

To the right, and boldly say,

 

“No beer bloats

Shall get our votes.”

Then shall our cause gain the day.

 

~Ella Wheeler Wilcox

 

 We are the ones no one was expecting.

Tomorrow is a new day.  Be wonderful to each other.

 - Darragh Murphy, Founder, PUMA PAC

1,088 comments ↓

#1 StarDust on 08.21.08 at 10:18 pm

Hi Pumas!

#2 Elaine on 08.21.08 at 10:19 pm

Hi, everyone! Am I #1 for a brief moment in time?

#3 kids1627 on 08.21.08 at 10:20 pm

Love the poem can’t wait to hear from Denver I’ll be glad to hear who the vp is and what Hillary has to say.

#4 tennaseepuma on 08.21.08 at 10:20 pm

Hey im 3 4 5 ………?

#5 zephyr on 08.21.08 at 10:21 pm

Caracal Carrie…just watched your video…ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL…thanks.

#6 tennaseepuma on 08.21.08 at 10:21 pm

Hey my sis is 3…..

#7 StarDust on 08.21.08 at 10:21 pm

Yea!!!

I be number 1 Puma

Who keeps getting kicked out of blog (GRRRRR)

#8 Lorelai on 08.21.08 at 10:23 pm

Maryland Puma -did you do this opening? It’s unbelievable….thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#9 GOSUEF4HIL on 08.21.08 at 10:26 pm

Caracal Carrie- did you get my e-mail yesterday w/ the pictures?

#10 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 10:27 pm

Gos

I dont think I got it But I am practically redoing the video at this point LOL so send away!

#11 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:28 pm

MURPHY
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

#12 bruce55555 on 08.21.08 at 10:28 pm

1201 PaulHillary

Perchance you came on this site looking and asking to be attacked? This is the impression I get, in reading all your comments.
In 1201 you say all you’ll be doing is handing out Hillary items. Why, pray tell, you did not state this in the beginning, when you first made your appearance?
And, if you wanted to check our “pulse”, could you not just read our posts?
Is it your intention to represent yourself as more important than you actually are?
Your initial remarks here were about “unity”. Might this be your true agenda?

#13 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 10:30 pm

1216~ ANTI~ I am in full agreement! no need~

#14 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:30 pm

BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:29 pm

#1210 PaulHillary

Paul, I will be happy to talk to you by email if you prefer. I can not speak for everyone here, only myself and I am sad that if you are not doing anything to hurt Hillary’s chances of being the nominee at Denver that you have gotten a bad wrap. PUMAs have had their guts on the line for almost three months. Most of us have shared the bashing along with Hillary and we are working in a last minute frenzy to help Hillary in any way we can. We have had many Obama supports on the site that start out pretending to support Hillary and in time attack our PUMAs. If you ever venture over to the Obama blog as I did last night and put ‘puma’ in the search box, you will see they call us every name in the book along with bashing Hillary. We are protective of one another because we are tired of being hurt and tired of Hillary being hurt. And the big Dog too.
I will give you my email right on this blog if you want to email me.

#15 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:31 pm

#10 Caracal Carrie
Got what? the tiara?

#16 halligan on 08.21.08 at 10:31 pm

News article about Ads against O concerning Weather Underground:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080822/ap_on_el_pr/anti_obama_ad

#17 maxgrader on 08.21.08 at 10:32 pm

Hi Murphy.

BWAHAHAHAHA

NOT!!!!!

:-)

#18 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:32 pm

I had my nails clipped today, anyone else want theirs done? Puma discount!

#19 Middle age female on 08.21.08 at 10:33 pm

Caracal Carrie – did you get my e-mail and pic? When will you be doing the new video? I can hardly wait to see what else you are going to do.

#20 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 10:34 pm

LOL silly Gos not GO

hehe sorry Im taking shortcuts..I should use ful names

#21 Lorelai on 08.21.08 at 10:34 pm

goandersen – you totally mmlolwmcomn- (make me laugh out loud with milk coming out my nose) Hardly princess-like behavior! Stop it!
Also, I’m not liking that tiara so much- kind of looks like one Barney would wear, no?

#22 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:35 pm

#21 Lorelai

LMAO!

#23 pamawo on 08.21.08 at 10:35 pm

Can we get past PaulHillary, it’s a new thread.

#24 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 10:35 pm

Middle

I am working on it right now, but since the texting came out really bad on some of the pics on the first I am kinda of incorporating the two, so I am adding text right now instead of the overlays

#25 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 10:35 pm

#10 Caracal Carrie,

Carrie, if you’re not finished with the video, could you add my name?
If you are finished with it, no problem.

My pc won’t send files. Been messed up for several months now.

#26 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 10:36 pm

Oh forgot to say Yup I gots it!

#27 hillaryistheone on 08.21.08 at 10:36 pm

re-posted from downstairs

I think PaulHillary, if you don’t take anything away from this site….let it be that we will not vote for Obama…even if Hillary is on the ticket!!!

I do believe you are who you say you are….I have no problem with that. But, I do recall one of your first posts was downing us for not voting for Obama.

Good luck and I hope you don’t get run over in the convention by all the Hillary supporters.

Obama is a loser and Hillary will ruin any chance she has of going forward in politics if she takes the VP spot with Obama. We all will know that it is Party before Country if she does that. I love and respect Hillary…just hope she isn’t being bought out.

#28 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:37 pm

#18 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:32 pm

I had my nails clipped today, anyone else want theirs done? Puma discount!
———————–
Go has her power clippers ready to take care of you.

I think every wound up PUMA should eat a big piece of chocolate and chill.

#29 halligan on 08.21.08 at 10:37 pm

goanderson

You’re so funny! Nail clipping, really! How about a combing of PUMA fur. You know how a cats fur stands up when they are angry. It may need combed back down if O walks by.

#30 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 10:37 pm

NP I will make sure to add names for both you and Lorelai’s princess self!

#31 Oneof18million cracks... on 08.21.08 at 10:38 pm

Its a new blog, a new attitude. Let’s get back to being focused. You can be suspicious but to continue this with PaulHIllary is driving people away from the focus and blog.

#32 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 10:38 pm

Murphy is still enroute to her destination.

I put up the new thread.

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#33 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 10:38 pm

2 Elaine
Hi, everyone! Am I #1 for a brief moment in time?———————————————————–
Elaine, you’ll always be number one with us ;)

#34 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 10:39 pm

HEY! HOW’D I DO THAT?

#35 PouncingPuma on 08.21.08 at 10:39 pm

test

#36 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:39 pm

#28 kat in your hat

I don’t give a crap if I am suspicious
—————
And………..if Paul isn’t a bad guy what about not giving him the benefit of the doubt. Has he attacked you, or any other PUMA…No!

So please chill out.

#37 kids1627 on 08.21.08 at 10:40 pm

You know Obama has put me in a mood if he picks Hillary I’ll be mad and if he doesn’t pick Hillary I’ll be mad. I need some Easy Nights or Mellow days do the still make it any wine drinkers know?

#38 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 10:40 pm

@28: Oh, not mIchelle crying everyday (though maybe!), I meant Maggie.

#39 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:40 pm

#30 halligan

Bringing Puma Gel. We be Gellin!

#40 StarDust on 08.21.08 at 10:40 pm

# 33 Maryland PUMA

Very Good, Maryland

You’ve gone all yellow on us

#41 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 10:41 pm

wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I didn’t add a message to my graphic for Senator Clinton. I haven’t packed yet for my departure to Denver at 2 AM tonght either… but any distraction will do. :oops:

#42 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 10:42 pm

Pumas , I have been watching this Paulhillary stuff go on – back and forth – with even some of our most active Pumas for days , and I have to ask my fellow Big Cats , ” Who really gives a rats a$$ who this person is or is not ? ” It certainly isn’t going to change any of our positions as far as our support of Hillary and our opposition to XO . It wouldn’t matter to me if he were Axlerod or Wolfson . If you don’t like what he says , ignore him . Besides , if he is just some crackpot 40 yr old man living in his mother’s basement ,dressed in a Captain Kirk uniform and speaking like Yoda , you don’t want to encourage him !!!! lol
My point is , your energy and wisdom is valuable to us , don’t waste it …. :) PEACE

#43 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:42 pm

#35 Maryland PUMA

LOL!

#44 Flowerchild2 on 08.21.08 at 10:42 pm

Who posted that Obama’s birth records are sealed? The only reason I know of birth records being sealed is a result of an adoption. The original birth certificate listing the parent(s) are sealed, and the adoption records show the adopted parents. What’s up with that?

#45 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 10:42 pm

Funny not maggie…Shellie is what I said and further she cries because she is under so much stress!

#46 Lorelai on 08.21.08 at 10:42 pm

Maryland Puma – you are very cool with the yellow and all and the opening thread – exquisite! Thanks…
(and thanks for the reminder about the rules)…..truly.
I love that you are the “keeper of the yellow”

#47 TrishfromCanada on 08.21.08 at 10:43 pm

#37 BillieJo

Paul has constantly requested that we support Hillary going as VP and vote in Bo

Mission: NoBama

#48 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 10:43 pm

35 Maryland PUMA
HEY! HOW’D I DO THAT?
—————————————-
It comes with the territory, doesn’t it?

#49 tennaseepuma on 08.21.08 at 10:43 pm

Hey all, Im trying this you tube thing and I was looking for that picture of ox when he did not say the pledge,does anyone know where I can find it?

#50 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 10:44 pm

geeze , if I didn’t type so darn slow , I could have saved a lot of time !!!!! Didn’t see any of the above posts ….

#51 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:44 pm

#43 TexasTigress
LOL! dang it, now I have to go and change my depends!

“… if he is just some crackpot 40 yr old man living in his mother’s basement ,dressed in a Captain Kirk uniform and speaking like Yoda , you don’t want to encourage him !!!! lol

#52 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 10:44 pm

#21: Nah, nah nah.

I will be HAPPY though! I promise.

#53 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:44 pm

#21 Lorelai

Also, I’m not liking that tiara so much- kind of looks like one Barney would wear, no?

———————-
I knew it, you need diamonds. Go to google, click on images at the top and search tiara. Find the perfect one.

#54 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 10:45 pm

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/10/20/obama-no-hand-heart-pledge-either-will-msm-notice picture for u tennaseepuma

#55 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 10:45 pm

I have REAL trolls hanging out in the dungeon. Care to address this one?:

“Oh my god, who are you crazy women? Don’t you realize that by not voting for Obama you are voting for McCain? If you are fine with that, then you should not call yourself democrats. A vote for McCain is a vote against a woman’s right to choose. Did you know that McCain voted AGAINST legislation ensuring equal pay for women? If Hilary is endorsing Obama, why can’t you follow her lead? This site makes me sick and represents EXACTLY what is wrong with the democratic party. If you are upset with the system, try to get Instant Runoff Voting legalized in your state, but don’t hurt us all by helping get another Republican in the White House.”

#56 sheila7 on 08.21.08 at 10:45 pm

paulhillary,
are you still here? i have a question

#57 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:45 pm

#49 tennaseepuma
I have one.

#58 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 10:46 pm

#42 DancesWithPumas

You better get to packing there Dances. :)

We’ll be thinking of you and all the Pumas in Denver.

#59 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:46 pm

#55 Maryland PUMA

Did you shut all the vents?

#60 PouncingPuma on 08.21.08 at 10:46 pm

http://obits.cleveland.com/CLEVELAND/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=000116072806

#61 StarDust on 08.21.08 at 10:47 pm

# 45 Flowerchild2

Very good point. I know (at least) in Michigan adopted kids birth records are sealed and I don’t know of any other reason for this.

Another Mystery??

#62 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 10:47 pm

#41: Dances

You haven’t packed yet?? You are like me…so focused and prepared…and…last minute…oops!

#63 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:47 pm

#41 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 10:41 pm

wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I didn’t add a message to my graphic for Senator Clinton. I haven’t packed yet for my departure to Denver at 2 AM tonght either… but any distraction will do. :oops:

—————-
But your graphic is beautiful.
You are leaving tonight? Wow, will you send us a little message if you can? Tell us what to expect. Some of us are leaving Sunday morning.
Have fun Dances, can’t wait to meet you.

#64 Lorelai on 08.21.08 at 10:48 pm

MarylandPuma – got to stay out of the bamus! (term of endearment for basement) No trolls, no boogeymen!
That’s disheartening blather!

#65 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 10:48 pm

go andersen – I was trying to lighten up the situation !!! I am just slow to the draw I guess . !!! Paul , I meant no offense – I hope you can see what I was trying to do . :)
Besides , I am the one in the Star Trek Uniform ! ANd MY depends are on my head !BWAAAAAAA !

#66 PouncingPuma on 08.21.08 at 10:49 pm

Regarding post #60

Sorry this is fragmented. Could’t post for the life of me which is getting shorter and shorter all the time.

That is the link for anyone who would like to go to the guest book for Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones to offer condolences.

#67 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 10:49 pm

#37 kids1627,

I feel the same way. I”ve been mad all day just thinking about it.

#68 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 10:50 pm

#65 TexasTigress

LOL!

#69 sheila7 on 08.21.08 at 10:50 pm

PAULHILLARY,
Are you here?

#70 sharpclaws on 08.21.08 at 10:50 pm

MarylandPuma – good one you got there. Hose it off.

#71 tennaseepuma on 08.21.08 at 10:51 pm

Thanks Go I got it from Paulhillary…..

Paulhillary do you have any good ones of Hillary on the road?

#72 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 10:51 pm

Well we must look at it this way…..AND i know i will be questioned for my continued support of Senator Clinton, but…..If he chooses Hillary, and she accepts, and this lawsuit thing has merit, she will step right in as the nominee! Hmmmm?? Was that the plan all along?

#73 bythelake on 08.21.08 at 10:51 pm

#55, Good thing your keeping them trolls under the bridge! To think that PUMAS are the reason the National Democratic Party is cracked.

Well, maybe that troll should hang around a bit more and see the real reason of no unity is Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Nancy Pelosi, Rev. Wright (doesn’t deserve that title), Rezko, paid off delegates…I mean, must I go on?

I’m a prouder American than to allow the likes of the above to steal my vote.

My vote for McCain will be a WAKE UP call that we as democrats will not be lead astray into the land of oz.

You just don’t “select” the least experienced candidate to represent OUR country and think your going to get away with it.

Enough said. Tromp the troll!

#74 sheila7 on 08.21.08 at 10:52 pm

Paulhillary,
Do you know anything about the flowers that were sent to Hillary?

#75 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 10:52 pm

TEXANS need to go to the upcoming meetings to do away with the caucus system in our state !!!!

#76 Flowerchild2 on 08.21.08 at 10:53 pm

Star Dust: I am a very, very curious PUMA. Curiosity kills me. How about you? I am also curious to know what the real deal is on his citizenship. Is he or is he not a dual citizen, Kenya and US. If he’s a dual citizen, he can’t be president. Now they are saying he isn’t a citizen, per the law suit we are waiting to hear about.

As far as adoption, it always used to be sealed, but now the adoptions are given an option of having an “open” adoption when the adopted parents continue to communicate with the birth parents. There’s something there with these issues. And he should just come out and explain them. But then he has Soros behind him…..

#77 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 10:53 pm

#55 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 10:45 pm

I have REAL trolls hanging out in the dungeon. Care to address this one?:

“Oh my god, who are you crazy women? Don’t you realize that by not voting for Obama you are voting for McCain? If you are fine with that, then you should not call yourself democrats. A vote for McCain is a vote against a woman’s right to choose. Did you know that McCain voted AGAINST legislation ensuring equal pay for women? If Hilary is endorsing Obama, why can’t you follow her lead? This site makes me sick and represents EXACTLY what is wrong with the democratic party. If you are upset with the system, try to get Instant Runoff Voting legalized in your state, but don’t hurt us all by helping get another Republican in the White House.”

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I wondered what it was like in the dungeon………oh, icky.

The really sad thing for all of us is that if either Hillary or Obama wins the nomination…they will each need the supporters of each other. I think the pretenders supporters realize we are a good part of why their leader is not doing well in the polls. If they didn’t trash Hillary and didn’t trash us, maybe we could communicate.
That is why I feel sad for the way Paul was treated tonight. I went over to the Obama site last night, not to post but to find out who they wanted as VP. I heard so many nasty comments about Hillary and about PUMAs, that when Paul was on our site, it sounded very harsh.

#78 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 10:54 pm

Dances you can still send it to me!

#79 bruce55555 on 08.21.08 at 10:54 pm

43 & 75 TexasTigress
Right on!!! :-D

#80 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 10:55 pm

Paulhillary , the only thing I worry about are the stringent time restraints placed on the candidates by the States as far as the candidates for POTUS being placed on the ballots . May the force be with you :)

#81 Lin4Hill on 08.21.08 at 10:55 pm

Maryland PUMA – re: trolls –”Who are you….women?”
that’s it right there……

#82 hillaryistheone on 08.21.08 at 10:55 pm

PaulHillary, we can’t take the chance of that Idiot being on the ticket.

#83 halligan on 08.21.08 at 10:55 pm

comments after the article

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/15/guest-column-the-obama-convention/

#84 Flowerchild2 on 08.21.08 at 10:56 pm

Sometime during the end of the primary, the Clintons warned that something big was going to come out in November about Obama. There’s so many things out there, which one will it be? Will Senator Obama’s chickens come home to roost? And if so, which chicken will it be? Senator O’s life is like a soap opera.

#85 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 10:56 pm

“Don’t you realize that by not voting for Obama you are voting for McCain?”

Yo, dungeoned lackwit… there are several more choices than voting for your guy, mccain being only one of the options., staying home being another, cynthia mckinney, and any of the other thrid party candidates.

Don’t insult us by bring up your concerns about women’s rights… especially after your boy and his camp of miscreants have done nothing but insult us and Senator Clintin with sexist and misogynist attacks. Too late for yoru concern AND, if you want to campaign for your guy… campaign on his merits, and not by tearing down his potential competitors. You can’t, because same ol’, same ol’ chit is shinola, doesn’t have any positions nor principles. So get out of our faces, because we aren’t in the mood for hopey diapey changey lackwits.

PS PUMA PAC is 60% women and 40% conscious men…

#86 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 10:56 pm

CARRIE~ any where near done on that 2nd one??

#87 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 10:56 pm

Thank you, Karl Rove….for describing Obama in 60 seconds or less.

#88 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 10:57 pm

Bruce555555 Are you in Tx and did you get the e-mail ?

#89 kids1627 on 08.21.08 at 10:57 pm

I would like to go to Denver but I am going to Alaska and Canada and I guess my Husband would have a fit if I didn’t go on an already paid for trip he is also for Hillary .

#90 BigCatLover on 08.21.08 at 10:57 pm

Post # 220 by wontbackdown that shows Obama camp ‘spin’ on whips and Hillary camp explanation of what their role really is. READ IT:

#159 just.words…

Re: Political.com’s article on:

“Clinton creates ‘whip team’ to quell anti-Obama protests”

****BEFORE WE BUY THIS “SPIN” READ THIS****

(BELOW IS THE WHOLE ARTICLE DIVIDED INTO PART 1 = OBAMA CAMPS SPIN VERSES PART 2 = CLINTON CAMP FACTS)

PART 1 OF ARTICLE = OBAMA CAMP SPIN

In an unusual move, Hillary Clinton’s staff is creating a 40-member “whip team” at the Denver Democratic convention to ensure that her supporters don’t engage in embarrassing anti-Obama demonstrations during the floor vote on her nomination, according to people familiar with the planning.

The team, which is being organized by longtime Clinton staffer Craig Smith, is working in conjunction with Obama’s floor organizers to help foster the image of a unified front during a roll-call process Clinton herself has described as an emotional “catharsis” for her disappointed supporters.

“If people get down there on the floor and want to start blowing kazoos and making a scene we want to make sure we’ve got people who stand in front of them with Obama signs,” said a person involved in the planning. (Obama person).

“Is it typical for a losing candidate to have their own whip team? No. But it’s also not usual for a losing candidate to get 18 million votes either,” said the person.

CLINTON CAMP FACT PART

Clinton spokesperson Kathleen Strand emphasized the team would not seek to convince delegates to vote for the former first lady, but would hand out Clinton signs to supporters who requested them.

“We have been and are working closely with the Obama campaign to make sure we have an exciting and unified convention,” Strand said. “Our delegate whips, along with the Obama delegate whips, are a part of a team that will be on the floor of the convention to make sure delegates have everything they need, whether that’s answering questions or passing out signs during Hillary’s speech. The whips are a traditional part of every convention’s floor operations.”

Plans for the squad were finalized last weekend. Although some former Clinton staffers balked at policing their own supporters, its ranks were filled by people itching for a floor pass — not an easy get for Clinton’s troops at the Obama-run convention.”

READING THE FACTS BURIED IN THE SPIN IS NOT EASY WITH THE OBAMA SELECTION POLICE

#91 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 10:57 pm

#36:

BillJo:

How can you tell me anything, I am aware of Paul from two weeks and at other venues.

BTW, the censoring is charming…..

#92 antifish on 08.21.08 at 10:58 pm

If you are upset with the system, try to get Instant Runoff Voting legalized in your state, but don’t hurt us all by helping get another Republican in the White House.”
______________
Hurt you? This isn’t about you, you selfish a*shole, this is about protecting this country from another arrogant, inexperienced, and incompetent president.

Do you really want this country to go through another four years of George W. Bush? He’s trying to fool you, bot! It’s not McCain that is a third Bush term, it’s him. That’s why he voted for that FISA bill. He wants the power it would give him to snoop in your shorts. Do you want that? That’s why he’s backing out on ending the war in Iraq. That’s why he praised Reagan and dissed Clinton throughout the primary. That’s why he voted for Cheney’s energy bill. That’s why he doesn’t support any effort that would lower gas prices. He’s taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from the oil companies. He’s got you fooled, bot, but not us. He’s just another arrogant idiot who didn’t hold a full-time job until his forties.

#93 sheila7 on 08.21.08 at 10:58 pm

To the troll that MarylandPuma has in the dungeon:
We are the ones noone was expecting. That’s who we are. :)

#94 bobram on 08.21.08 at 10:59 pm

Sorry that you are leaving Paul – there are some of us that are getting awesome information from you

What I have personally discovered from lurking for weeks and then posting is that one person misunderstands what the poster says and then another person jumps onto what the poster that misinterrupted said and next thing you know it gets all messed up and everyone is gnawing at each other – wish we had prowls everyone is united in those. Just my personal observation

#95 sheila7 on 08.21.08 at 10:59 pm

PAULHILLARY,
I guess you’re not going to respond to me?

#96 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 10:59 pm

78 Caracal Carrie
I can? Cool. where?

#97 StarDust on 08.21.08 at 10:59 pm

# 55 Maryland PUMA

To Troll

I actually think you got this backwards, the Democratic Party Leaders are nominating someone so corrupt, inexperience and uniformed, I think THEY are the ones who are actually trying to give the Presidency to the Republicans.

McCains values (even though republican) are far more in line with my beliefs than Obama’s could ever be.
Besides- I don’t know what he believes – he flip flops so much, I’m not even sure if he even he knows what he believes anymore.

#98 Mac on 08.21.08 at 10:59 pm

#55, Thanks Maryland Puma for sharing this poor troll’s dissatisfaction with all the Puma’s. I find it interesting that you are blaming all of the supporters of Hillary for the dysfunction of the Democratic Party. Your Democratic Party has been broken for sometime now and all of us are at least making an effort to bring this corruption to light. If you feel that McCain will take away women’s rights then you need to ask “your” Democratic Party why they allowed sexism in this campaign. Further more, the issue of women’s rights for abortion has been on the table since Reagan and it has not changed. I feel “your” party uses that tactic to put the fear of God into women. If there was one president that would have taken action against women’s rights it would have been Bush. So stop blaming the Puma’s for your parties failures. You need to go back to the “chosen One”.

#99 doria on 08.21.08 at 10:59 pm

Thank you for a very fair interview with Diane and Bonnie this evening. You really seemed interested in what they were feeling. Contrast this with David Schuster’s panel last week with Will Bower and Darragh Murphy in which he was dismissive, condescending and bullying. (He also stated at least 4 times that Obama had won the popular vote…like repeating it would make it so.) David acted toward them exactly like the rabid Obama supporters act toward us…yes we are all part of the same Coalition. I, like so many others, began this campaign admiring and believing in Hillary. At the end, after everything she endured, she looked brighter and more beautiful than ever. Our admiration turned to devotion. That kind of devotion is not transferable.

Party disunity will of course be blamed on Hillary…everything else is. (Bill Schneider actually said Tuesday night that the McCain Campaign was following Hillary’s playbook by portraying Obama as “not ready to lead.” Gee, I guess they couldn’t have figured that out for themselves.) But we point to Obama saying that Hillary’s people will vote for me…not sure about my supporters voting for her. Or, Michelle saying she’d really have to think about supporting Hillary if she were the nominee. Or, “You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” Or, brushing Hillary off his shoulder. Death by a million cuts.

Your remarks during the campaign truly were a galvanizing moment for us. (By the way, I believe Hillary was featured in Time Magazine after her Wellesley speech before anyone had ever heard of Bill Clinton). I also believe you wish you hadn’t said them.

I hope you read Fredosso’s book, “The Case Against Obama”. His whole charade of transformative politics is effectively eviscerated. I know who your audience is. So maybe you just can’t question the premise of his campaign.

There are millions of us. From the grief we felt on May 31st at the RBC fiasco and on June 7th at the suspension speech has sprung a spontaneous Political Action movement with enormous passion. We think Hillary would make a wonderful President. We think Senator Obama would be a disaster.

Thank you for recognizing our power. It has been humorous watching the pundits continually try to marginalize us.

Best Regards,

#100 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:00 pm

PaulHillary

We revere freedom of speech, but repeated promotions of a position that is averse to the mission of the blog is not permitted.

This is a NObama blog. NObama. Not even with Hillary as VP. NObama.

I’ve also asked you to email me and you have not yet done so. Is there a reason for that or was I overlooked?

MarylandPUMA
Moderator

#101 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:00 pm

” but don’t hurt us all by helping get another Republican in the White House.”
First, tell me one more time…..the difference between Obama and George Bush is…….?

#102 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 11:01 pm

Sorry I probably overlooked you. I will do so from my yahoo which has been posted everywhere one minute I am looking into donations by Barack on the illinois state board of elections site!

#103 doria on 08.21.08 at 11:01 pm

#99 Sorry. That post was an email I sent to Chris Matthews about tonite’s interview.

#104 turndownobama on 08.21.08 at 11:02 pm

Attention Paul, and other non-PUMAs:

Please pass the word that ‘unity’ is not going to come from nominating Hillary for VP! We don’t WANT Hillary to be trapped as VP. We will still vote for McCain and work even harder against an Obama/Clinton ticket.

It’s Hillary on top or McCain!

Just did my personal Prowl for today, sent this to info@hillaryclinton.com with CC to all supers.

Hillary,
Please don’t take VP. Don’t prop up Obama. We will work doubly hard against a ticket that would make you his servant.
Better McCain for four years than Obama/Clinton.
If possible, please fight to get the nomination in Denver — Clinton/Obama. Other wise pls stay in the Senate.
Flora Steele

Actually I should send cc to Pelosi, Dean, etc and media but I don’t have those handy. This means info@hillaryclinton.com will get a dozen copies, but oh well….

#105 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 11:02 pm

#47 TrishfromCanada on 08.21.08 at 10:43 pm

#37 BillieJo

Paul has constantly requested that we support Hillary going as VP and vote in Bo

Mission: NoBama

—————
Love you to death Trish – you know that, but our mission is to support Hillary.

#106 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:03 pm

The only “change” we can be sure of with Obama is that he will be WORSE than George Bush.

#107 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:04 pm

Ok, tonight, GeekLove is hoping that her videos will be promoted at Denver. (There is a plasma tv with videos streaming.) My feeling is: there is NO doubt her videos will be showcased. She has really really helped our movement.

#108 Mac on 08.21.08 at 11:04 pm

Good Evening Puma’s! I have not had time to read all the posts, but I did receive the information regarding the law suit that was being filed today in PA. Is there any new information regarding that? I have searched everywhere and have come up with nothing.
Also, I wish a safe trip to all who are going to Denver and all of us will be watching to see all of you on TV with your Puma Pac t-shirts. Go Puma Pac!!!!!
Hi goandersen, hope your doing great!

#109 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:05 pm

How in the world can Obama love this country, when he and MO hate whites? Even though we are a diverse country, an ethic melting pot, that still seems like an oxymoron.

#110 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 11:06 pm

Not Yet SouthJ

I am working with some texts to help it be more readable.

#111 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 11:06 pm

This is the e-mail from the Texas Party Chair . Since the corrupt caucus activites in Texas affected the results of the primaries for ALL of us regardless of which state we live in , I thought that some of you may want to let Boyd know how you feel about our system here .
yellowdog@txdemocrats.org;
Dear fellow Democrat,

The 2008 election cycle has created a historic political climate for Texas Democrats. Approximately 1 million Democrats participated in our convention/caucus system. This surge of participation magnified the intricate workings of Texas’ unique hybrid primary/caucus system, resulting in logistical challenges for some of our Precinct and County/Senatorial District conventions.

As a result, I have appointed the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System to examine the current process of our primary and caucus system. The Committee will conduct a series of meetings which will be open to the public and will allow for Democrats from all across the state to share their Primary/caucus experience. If for some reason you are not able to attend any of these hearings, you are encouraged to submit written testimony by e-mailing it to the Committee at testimony@txdemocrats.org. The Committee will then consider this feedback and make recommendations to the State Democratic Executive Committee for possible changes. For more information about the committee meetings, click here

The second meeting in this series of Advisory Committee Hearings will be held at the Harlingen Public Library in Harlingen, Texas on September 6, 2008 at 9 a.m.

Additional hearings will be held in the following cities:

September 12, 2008: Houston, TX

October 4, 2008: El Paso, TX

October 17, 2008: Arlington, TX

October 18, 2008: Nacogdoches, TX

November 8, 2008: Lubbock, TX

November 14, 2008: Austin, TX

An examination such as this will help inform and educate our Party leadership, elected officials and the general public about how best to approach the issue of potential modifications to the Convention process in Texas. Your testimony at these hearings will play an important role as we continue to explore our current Democratic Primary process. Only by working together will we be able to grow and strengthen as a Party.

#112 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 11:06 pm

Ok my eyes are starting to cross…See whoever is left around 3am

#113 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:07 pm

Lawsuits take a while don’t they? If this is all happening, and a judge approved, I am thrilled.

#114 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:07 pm

#108 Mac

Where have you been!!! I am stressing and getting excited all at the same time.
What is new with you???

#115 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:07 pm

WE ARE THE ONE’S NO ONE WAS EXPECTING!

#116 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:08 pm

Caracal: Are you awake working on the video still??

Bless your heart!

#117 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 11:08 pm

Night Texas…getting up in 4 hours so Im going to try to close my eyes.

#118 bythelake on 08.21.08 at 11:08 pm

101, First, tell me one more time…..the difference between Obama and George Bush is…….?

Is this a trick question?

The answer, the spelling of course!

#119 Caracal Carrie on 08.21.08 at 11:08 pm

Yeah Kat..Has to be purty

#120 bruce55555 on 08.21.08 at 11:09 pm

88 TexasTigress
I’m in Florida but I have friends and family in Texas – they’re quite angry over the way the caucuses were handled (or mishandled!)
We all know that anger I’m sure.

#121 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 11:09 pm

#72 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 10:51 pm

Well we must look at it this way…..AND i know i will be questioned for my continued support of Senator Clinton,

————–

Paul, I have a question for you. Please post either my name or number of the blog so I will know you are answering my question.

If, and only if Obama asks Hillary to be his VP and she accepts, by tomorrow (this is his time table) would that make having her name put in nomination (for real votes not for symbolic reasons) void by her accepting?

#122 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:11 pm

Here are my thoughts:

We have unidentified trolls among us. That is a given – someone is releasing our prowls to the O camp.

We will have some trolls manage to slip in and attempt to pass themselves off as PUMAs. Some we will catch, some we won’t.

We will also have NEW members joining daily who will not be impressed by the things that have been posted on the blog tonight.

BOTTOM LINE: We have no way of knowing who is legitimate and who is not so I suggest we err on the side of caution. Report your suspicions to a moderator via email. Do not converse with or react to one you suspect. This vetting is causing infighting amongst us.

Every single moment we spend vetting posters is a single moment taken away from pursuing our purpose.

#123 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:12 pm

Obama’s entire campaign has been an attack on basic American values and costitutional protections. I can’t understand why he hasn’t been arrested and charged with terrorism and treason.

#124 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:13 pm

Caracal: Thank you so much…really.

BillieJo: Good question. I wonder if delegates have to be released first in that situation?

#125 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:13 pm

110# CARRIE~ AWWWWW…. WISH I COULD HELP!! SHANNON WAS ASKING BEFORE BED~ SHE IS SO EXCITED SHE WILL BE A PART OF PUMAS VIDEO! :lol:

#126 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:13 pm

118 bythelake ~~~ Good answer. :P

#127 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 11:13 pm

I am so sorry Sheila I didnt answer your question. But I have 4 sites that I blog on, and I am trying to investigate the followiing:

1. Why is Hillary creating a whip team when in the last 3 conventions only the winner had one?
2. Why is there a lawsuit that no MSM has picked up on that was actually put out as a Press Release?
3. Why I can’t get a ticket to Philadelphia first thing in the morning?

But I sent you an email :)

#128 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:14 pm

Maryland: got it.

#129 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 11:17 pm

#122 Maryland – That is exactly how I feel , only you say it soooo much better ! It’s just easire for me to picture them all dressed as Trekies :) i’m nutty that way :)

#130 pa dem on 08.21.08 at 11:17 pm

Supposedly the judge will be hearing the case tomorrow morning. :-) Also, it will supposedly be up available for viewing by around 10 am tomorrow.

Maryland PUMA: could you repost how to get signs/postcards? I can’t seem to find the original posting.

#131 pamawo on 08.21.08 at 11:18 pm

#122 Maryland Puma
Thank you.
I had lunch with 2 friends today that I thought I had convinced to join. They were not impressed.
I will try again when we get past the PaulHillary obsession.

#132 Lin4Hill on 08.21.08 at 11:18 pm

Re: the eyes that watch us.

Then I’ll make it simple for them, Maryland PUMA: BO’s money-rich, super-delegate endorsed campaign stole the election. I’m taking my vote somewhere else. I am not a lemming who will just follow them to the edge of the cliff. I am a much larger beast who can navigate the edge.

#133 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:19 pm

oh please

#134 Nijma on 08.21.08 at 11:19 pm

The temperance poem: I’ll drink to that!

The troll: the same supreme court/abortion talking point I heard a couple weekends ago from someone with an Obama button who was registering voters in Indiana. They’re still using it. If they really wanted women to feel welcome in the Democratic party they wouldn’t be playing music with the B-word at official party functions, now would they. That kind of language was all over Obama’s official website too, at the same time MO was sending out emails about not using the N-word. Obama has created a political culture within the party where it is okay to make offensive statements and then just brush them off as “jokes”. I don’t think they’re funny. Everyone feels free to do it because they know there are no repercussions and because they want to. If those so-called Democrats–and do real Democrats hate women?–really wanted women to vote for their dude, would they have been so careless in creating a hostile environment for women within the party?

VP: It’s all over the news here (Chicago) that Obama will announce his VP choice on Saturday when he speaks in Springfield. And no, the Gov. will not be there because of ongoing scrutiny of his ties to Rezco which no one wants linked to Obama right now. I wonder if anyone is delaying their travel plans because of this. Any chance at all of HRC being in Springfield on Caturday?

#135 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:19 pm

Maryland, your email?

#136 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 11:20 pm

100 Maryland PUMA

We revere freedom of speech, but repeated promotions of a position that is averse to the mission of the blog is not permitted.

This is a NObama blog. NObama. Not even with Hillary as VP. NObama.

————————-

Everyone, I am sorry to say I have to leave the blog. I can not promise I will not vote if Hillary is VP. I have said many times I will support Hillary to better her career by what ever I have to do. I don’t want Obama as the nominee either, I do not even want Hillary as a VP, but I can’t promise that in November I will not vote for her if that is all she can get. I would also vote for her if she was put in charge of Universal Health Care.
Murphy addressed this once in my behalf, but maybe the rules have changed.
I am sorry to leave, I will miss all of you, but since I do not know how I will vote, I can’t promise how I will support anyone other than Hillary. I don’t think I could ever vote for McCain. Third party is a throw away.
I will still go to Denver, but will stay outside of the HQ den for I am no longer considered a PUMA here.
Sadly, I say with a very heavy heart. Good bye.

#137 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:20 pm

:roll:

#138 Asian4Hillary on 08.21.08 at 11:20 pm

Bruce555555

I’m with you on that! Actual if you read between the lines what PaulHillary was saying, he is actually working for NObama. He belong to the WHIP TEAM” during convention; meaning if he’s in the club he’s a bouncer. His job is to control Hillary supporters not to go out of bounce while the rest of them are doing their rah rahs supporting NObama. As he goes around circle trying to delude a bunch of us, the root is this, he is supporting NObama and to hell with Democratic Process, therefor, he is a PROBLEM, an ENABLER.

Maryland PUMA,

About the TROLLS , this is what I’ll say to them – DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY. There is NOTHING that can irritate me more when some nincompoop out there ask the most stupid question; “Why are you voting for McCain, you’re a democrat?”. These people have forgotten BASIC CIVIC LESSON that should be taught in our school all over USA; LOYALTY TO MY PARTY ENDS, WHERE LOYALTY TO MYCOUNTRY BEGINS. Their comes a point in time, a person MUST make a choice, and the time has come for us PUMAS to make a decision, country or party? Are we going to toe the party line even when we know our vote is NO longer SACRED? When voice of the people is no longer heard or listened to, democracy is DEAD.

I’m very passionate on this, what PUMA stands for, I’d been there, I know what its like to lose your voice. I know what its like when Democracy is dead. I know what it’s like being in the hit lists because you believe in Democracy and ready to die for it, and the only weapon you have is your pen.

I’d be staying away from this blog for awhile, it awakens too much memories I want to forget. I’m doing this in memory of my friends who are no longer with the living. Please don’t give up even an inch, when you do, they’ll take away everything you’ve got. God bless you all, be kind to each other. Bye for now.

#139 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:21 pm

#135 kat in your hat

same name no space at gee mail dot com

#140 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:21 pm

Anyone want to have a Mike’s hare lemonade with me?

:lol:

#141 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:21 pm

92 antifish,

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Bravo!!!!

#142 slyt2 on 08.21.08 at 11:21 pm

Caracal Carrie I was gone for bit and had to read all the post i missed and came across this
“dont think I got it But I am practically redoing the video at this point LOL so send away”!
You are redoing it , why what happened?

#143 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 11:22 pm

#136 do not leave. We all have your same feelings…We just do not know right now where to turn and its down to the final hour. Hang in…I promise the end is near and everyone will be happy with the result. One thing I learned about Hillary a long time ago is….SHE IS LIKE A CAT SHE ALWAYS WINDS UP ON HER FEET!!!!

#144 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:22 pm

LOL! that would be “hard” lemonade.

#145 pa dem on 08.21.08 at 11:23 pm

BillieJo: At least wait until the momentous unveiling Saturday….who knows, it may not even be an issue. :-)

#146 sychoram_in_MO on 08.21.08 at 11:24 pm

http://www.break.com/index/obama-does-def-comedy-jam.html

someone posted this on an earlier thread, but I challenge the trolls and everyone else to watch it… and answer “how can you support this man”…

#147 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:26 pm

I LOVE the opening for tonight’s thread.

I am sick. Can’t sleep. Can’t rest. Can’t work. This is torture and I blame the ONC/BO.

I find myself chanting under my breath all the time “don’t quit hillary.” I wonder if we are karmically connected somehow…

SOOOO many people are watching and HOPING hillary steps up and out on behalf of her supporters and America. I have friends all over the world and they too want to see her wipe the floor with these judases. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM should be sent to the lion’s den….PUMA can eat them all for dinner.

I wish I could be there and see everything. It is sorta killing me not to see it all so I am praying to be hooked in through PUMA. I just so want justice, and knowing that it is almost impossible to attain I still WANT IT. I need it.

PUMA is so wonderful I am in awe of everyone here. When Hillary gave her suspension speech I cried so hard I was sick for 2 days. I could not lift my head from the pillow–it was as if I had lost my passion. Someone named Sandi on the Democratic blog told me to come here and it was salvation, peace, and passion all in one.

I pray for the SAFETY of all PUMAS, the swift DOWNFALL of all traitors, liars, cheats, misogynists, and creeps in general, and I pray for Hillary Rodham Clinton to be America’s President in 2008 and again in 2012.

For Stephanie and every PUMA here and beyond, for our mothers, grandmothers, and grandchildren, for our salvation and theirs, a HILLARY VICTORY!!!

#148 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:27 pm

#146 sychoram_in_MO

Guy is an idiot.

#149 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:27 pm

wait! did carrie leave??
I dont know where to send my amended graphic for her video….

waaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
man… it feels soooooo good to whine

#150 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:27 pm

#136 BillieJo,

Please don’t leave us. Many Pumas haven’t decided what they will do in Nov.
We are all united here in our beliefs about democrasy.
We all support Hillary and want her as president. We just have to take one day at a time and see what happens.
We need you.

#151 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:27 pm

#136 BillieJo,

Please don’t leave us. Many Pumas haven’t decided what they will do in Nov.
We are all united here in our beliefs about democrasy.
We all support Hillary and want her as president. We just have to take one day at a time and see what happens.
We need you.

#152 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:28 pm

I’ll give ya a dollar if you pack for me

#153 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:28 pm

#136 BillieJo,

Come back in here girl, have a drink with me and enjoy the show.

#154 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:29 pm

Sorry about the double post, don’t know what happened.

#155 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 11:29 pm

Does anyone know what the heck to wear to Federal court….? I will be so upset if I get there and this is false its 68.00 and a change of my airline ticket at the last minute. But if this booger cant be president I want to be ONE of the FIRST to know! I want to do a jig outside and say to every Obamabot that spit at me….LOOK…this is what you trusted!

#156 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:29 pm

Asian PLEASE do not leave I love your posts….

#157 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 11:29 pm

My ( and carrie’s ) mom was the first woman president of the largest local in the UAW , and she has been a die -hard Democrat all of her life . She is supporting Obama , and refuses to listen ( hear rather ) to my points on why I won’t support him . She preaches about Unity and defeating the republicans etc . It has been imopssible – until today . I finally gave her pause when I reminded her about the importance of checks and balances in a Union , and how it is the OBLIGATION of the membership to question our leaders and ensure that they are going to have the best interest of the Union ( country ) at heart . I reminded her how we lost 17,000 jobs and our bargaining officials all ended up with new SUV’s . She pasued for a min. and then said , ” You’re right . ”
My point is , we are right , Pumas . We just have to keep presenting the facts and opening their eyes . Eventually they will figure it out . :)

#158 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:29 pm

143 PaulHillary ~~~ If you KNOW something,be mature and tell us. If not, don’t make empty promises you cannot keep.

#159 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:30 pm

#149 DancesWithPumas,

LOL ya want some cheese with that whine?

~~ snort~~ :D

#160 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:30 pm

I won’t vote for obama… wouldnt care of God herself was his running mate.
Will absolutely not reward corruption… and the undermining of an election process. It’s a no brainer.

#161 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:31 pm

It is getting all wiggly in here.

#162 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:33 pm

goandersen~ PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEW!!! THIS IS TERRIBLE!

#163 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:33 pm

what is carries email address? she posts it here all the time..please hep me or I will have to pack for denver.

#164 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:34 pm

If there are trolls among us, maybe we’d better speak in code:

aw[4oit a[‘rgivzhjoxdivf =0q934u tg;f

#165 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:34 pm

Will someone please smack vonay for me, please thank you. ;)

#166 YesSheCan on 08.21.08 at 11:34 pm

To the Trolls:

The Media and the DNC unfairly manipulated the primary.

I’ll be voting against Senator Obama to send a message.

Hopefully, they’ll “get it” when John McCain wins, and we’ll have fair elections in the future. If I could handle Bush for 8 years, McCain for 4 will easy.

BTW- it’s not too late for the DNC to fix their big mistake- A Clinton/Obama ticket (with Hillary on the top!!) is the only way the Democrats can possibly win.
Tell your guy to “suck it up” for his country and release his delegates to Senator Clinton. THAT would show how patriotic he is.

#167 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 11:34 pm

Dances , carrie is at witchway2go@hotmail.com
Goanderson , make it a double !!!

#168 tennaseepuma on 08.21.08 at 11:35 pm

Billie Jo….please dont go……….

#169 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:35 pm

I WILL BE BACK TOMORROW~ I CAN NOT BELIEVE THE NONSENSE I KEEP READING OVER AND OVER~ HOW WILL WE EVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY IF WE CANT EVEN GET ALONG AMONG OURSELVES! THIS IS PATHETIC AND UNCALLED FOR~ AND NOW BECAUSE OF IT WE LOSE BILLIE JO? VERY SAD…..AND THAT IS MY OPINION!!

#170 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:35 pm

Hi everyone i am back. Antifish i need to send you a e-mail and make sure we are at same motel. I’m sure we are

#171 sychoram_in_MO on 08.21.08 at 11:35 pm

#140 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:21 pm

ok GO u have a MIKE’s and I’ll do some tequilla shots.. wouldn’t want ya drinkin alone! I won’t be on long tho..

#172 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:36 pm

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#173 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:36 pm

We have to remember that we create our own realities, both collectively and individually. We HAVE to believe Hillary will get the nomination. Anything less….ensures less.

#174 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:36 pm

#163 DancesWithPumas
witchway2go@hotmail.com

#175 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:36 pm

#165 DancesWithPumas,

hehehee :D

#176 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:36 pm

If McCain wins the election, the first person he thanks should be Barack Obama.

#177 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:37 pm

Nobody leave as there is no reason too. We are all here for the same reason We believe in Hillary

#178 pamawo on 08.21.08 at 11:37 pm

#136 BillieJo
You do not need to leave just because you are unsure about what you would do if Hillary was the VP candidate.
Anyone who has read your comments knows you are a
true Hillary supporter.
Anyone who has read your comments knows you do not want Obama as the nominee.
Anyone who has read your comments knows you are fed up with the behavior of the democratic party leaders.
That’s enough for me.
I consider you a fellow fighter for democracy.
You are a PUMA! Remain part of the pack.

#179 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:38 pm

#162 SouthJerseyPUMA

It will settle down. Please take it easy tonight.

#180 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:38 pm

smack smack

#181 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:38 pm

152

DWP~ MAKE IT 2 AND YA GOT A DEAL~ ;)

#182 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:38 pm

Maybe McCain and Obama should go out to dinner together.

#183 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:39 pm

texastigress
thank you.

#184 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:39 pm

yes. we must stay firm and be honest to our genesis. NO BO.

BO is the end of America. He is an evil sick individual who is backed by monied interests that will wreck this country but make many VERY VERY RICH.

He represents everything that is WRONG with this world, and I challenge ALL PUMAS everywhere to make sure they do not rationalize or become hypocritical.

We love Hillary because she is a fine person who has done right by this country and her people. If she chooses to subjugate this country and her people to an egomaniac and a political party gone mad with testerone she does not deserve us. She will have sold out.

I have read these blogs when I cannot sleep and have been INSPIRED by the intelligence, compassion, creativity and SPIRIT of all PUMA’s. STAY TRUE PUMA’s STAY TRUE. DO NOT GO OFF COURSE.

BO is more than a man, just like PUMA is more than just Hillary. BO is a a microcosm of the bigger problem of ego-gone-mad, race baiting, woman hating, borderline personality combined with self-centeredness to the extent that it is ALMOST pathological. Criminal, Evil, Liar, Racist, Sexist…..choose any negative and it will apply. He is just a man, but he represents what is wrong with the human race and we CANNOT support that. NOT EVER.

Hillary is the opposite. We are just waiting for her next move. But WE are the reason for the season. WE are the country, WE are the bosses, WE are the ONES we have been waiting for. We are standing our ground and demanding honesty, truth, and justice. Our weapons are solidarity and UNBENDING conviction. We need no others. We are stronger than they could ever be, as long as no one breaks the line.

I will NEVER allow the line to break on my part. I will NEVER let go of my convictions and I will never settle for less than. I challenge you all to hold firm to your dreams. They are more powerful than you could ever imagine. This is why they are so scared…..

#185 TrishfromCanada on 08.21.08 at 11:39 pm

#105 BillieJo

you can vote however you want, we simply do not promote nobama, hence nobama zone but only you own your vote

#186 diva2 on 08.21.08 at 11:39 pm

#140 Goanderson

I will, love it!

#187 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:40 pm

181 SouthJerseyPUMA

I’m make it 3.
You drive a hard bargain.

#188 Blue Blue Gal on 08.21.08 at 11:40 pm

Asian4Hillary

i look forward to your posts because they are usually not in response, but rather in observation. i applaud that quality – one that apparently i do not have.
i second 156 jenniforhillary’s plea.

#189 TrishfromCanada on 08.21.08 at 11:40 pm

the long posts are messing up the blog again, can everyone please break up their posts, thank you

#190 Maryland PUMA on 08.21.08 at 11:41 pm

BillieJo

You are still Nobama. You are not supporting him to become the Dem Nominee. After Denver, many things will change. Some will split off and work for McCain. Some will work for a third party. Everyone will have a different choices in November. That is their right – to choose – and we do not restrict membership based on any of those things.

I hope that many PUMA PACers will continue to work with us toward Democratic Party reform and getting the corrupt powers out of office.

I should have worded that differently as that comment was addressed to a specific member and I was trying to make a point that failed miserably.

#191 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 11:42 pm

Billiejo , stop ! This is nonsense . Everybody stop and BREATHE …. We have come to far to begin to unravle now . We are a family and we WILL remain as such . Everyone here is a part of the whole . When we fight amongst ourselves , they win . Goandersen is buying a round for the house , so just have a drink and CHILL OUT .

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT !!!

#192 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:42 pm

If McCain and Obama went out to dinner together tomorrow, what do you think would be the topic of conversation?

#193 Blue Blue Gal on 08.21.08 at 11:42 pm

took the chill pill BillieJo recommended ( and two cocktails) it works – lol lol

#194 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:43 pm

I love everyones posts and come in and read them all the time. Sometimes i lurk and just read. Everyone in here are so great and i am very impressed with every single one. I am proud to be a PUMA with you all

#195 Vonay on 08.21.08 at 11:44 pm

#164 halligan,

Yes, $##@! *&^%$ &^%$ ^%$# :D

#196 TexasTigress on 08.21.08 at 11:44 pm

Maryland , you look pretty in yellow . It brings out your “I”s .. LOL

#197 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:44 pm

#140:

I will have a drink with you!

#198 BillieJo on 08.21.08 at 11:44 pm

Thank you PUMAs for accepting me for my views. I have to take a time out, tears.
It is lonely without you PUMAs. I will come back…

#199 caribbeanpuma on 08.21.08 at 11:45 pm

Please,don’t anybody leave the pac. What is happening is natural. We are all under stress.( This looks like a week before the wedding. LOL)
Just think….Hillary will get an overwhelming response from the delegates. She will tell the public how much she worked for Obama(mentionin all the places she went for him). Then she will say that her duty is for the people(18 millions). That she will obey their claim for her to represent them.

#200 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:45 pm

heck without Billiejoe and asian it would be like a hot dog without the weiner and who wants to eat a plain bun

#201 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:45 pm

#186 diva2

Clink! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

#202 lilibet on 08.21.08 at 11:45 pm

Repost from downstairs.
#1240 lilibet on 08.21.08 at 11:28 pm

GoAnderson; I am going to call “him” POUPEE (poo-pay).
That is French for “doll”. I had to have my 171/2 year old cat put to sleep on Dec.1st. His name was Poupee.

#203 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:46 pm

#200 sandipuma

LOL!

#204 kat in your hat on 08.21.08 at 11:46 pm

Not sure what though. I will have a pretend drink…

Wonder where all the pumas are in their travels right now…

#205 MsBinMD on 08.21.08 at 11:46 pm

Well as I count it that’s 5 Pumas in 2 days. Pumas that I have been here with since early June. That saddens me greatly.

Two situations here today -
If there WAS a troll involved in the conversations – and I am not saying who it actually may have been( ’cause that is not my job), they caused divisiveness, agitation, intergroup negativity and bickering, verbal attacks and all the things they were here to do…………so the bast@rds won.

And if there were actually no trolls involved today, then we should feel embarrassed at the activity that has consumed this day and shame for the hurtful way we have treated our fellow Pumas.

Sure hope Hillary Clinton didn’t pop in on us today.

Even with the tension we should be experiencing some joy at the possibilities, and pride for all we have done thus far.

Have a good night everyone.

#206 kids1627 on 08.21.08 at 11:47 pm

Bottle of wine fruit of the vine let me go home and start over

#207 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:47 pm

Welcome back Billiejo i thought i was going to have to go back to the hospital over this now all behave or i will send you to your room :)

#208 diva2 on 08.21.08 at 11:48 pm

#201 Goanderson
Clink and cheers!

#209 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:48 pm

#202 lilibet

Good name! Poupee! PUMA POUPEE!

#210 maxgrader on 08.21.08 at 11:49 pm

diva2 and Blue Blue Gal;

Good to see you nice pumas enter the current group. You give PUMA class and that “Confluence’ touch that riverdaughter is so extraordinary at with her gang.

Billie Jo. I love you. Please stay.

#211 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:49 pm

I can not wait to meet you all in Denver and that is what keeps me going

#212 bruce55555 on 08.21.08 at 11:50 pm

138 Asian4Hillary
I hear you!
Please take care. With this blessed site and these wonderful, wonderful Pumas, and our moderators, leaders, other related sites, etc., we have accomplished so so so much!!!
Us getting the word out to the masses I think is what frightens them most, it really aggravates them.
As for myself I wish that I could do more – my finances are very low right now (Florida real estate market, I’m a realtor here :-( ) and I hardly have any extra time, running around showing foreclosed properties to people who bid low, and rentals. This is a bad time for me.
But I’m cheerful that at least I know that I have a little power with the pen (so to speak).
And I am so thankful for this site and all these beautiful people.
All for Hillary, the best thing that ever happened to us, and for our country.

#213 queen81 on 08.21.08 at 11:50 pm

watch out Billiejo

one night when trish threatened to dissapear I threatened to steal a mountie uniform and ride though canada on a horse screaming her name…I’m not above humiliating myself to get the good ones back! :-)

#214 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:50 pm

i’m bringing my tiny puma shirts with me and changing them for bigger ones

#215 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:50 pm

Why is everyone so tense? Billjo! Come back here, please! You have to do what your heart tells you to do concerning this whole election mess. My whole family is opposed to my views (lovingly however), but some times its hard for them to understand where I’m at. I like to work with people of all persuasions. Even when they speak their opinion, I always try to put myself in their shoes. It usually doesn’t change my mind, but it certainly help me to understand them. Political relationship are so phoney most of the time. But relationships from the heart and on commonalities are worth more than gold. So hang in here kid.

#216 diva2 on 08.21.08 at 11:51 pm

#197 kat

Cheers!

#217 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:52 pm

#202 lilibet

aaaaw. I know what that is like. I had to put my Casey down. The hardest thing I have ever had to do..

(((((((((((lilibet))))))))))))))

#218 diva2 on 08.21.08 at 11:52 pm

Halligan,

Join us for a drink and let us know how your wine is?

#219 4hillinca on 08.21.08 at 11:52 pm

#205
I agree. We can’t let anyone get between us and what our goal here is. We must stay focused and yes, I am sure if Hillary did “pop in on us today” she would not be happy. She is our example….rise above it all!!! Tomorrow is a new day and if there are trolls here then so be it. If Obama is that desperate then he really does have a problem.

#220 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:52 pm

I am so sorry anderson. I am so very very sorry :( there is nothing harder….

#221 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:53 pm

I must say i have never met such a wonderful bunch of hard working,caring and wonderful people and words could never realy express what i mean and feel

#222 Taffy on 08.21.08 at 11:53 pm

We could think about how to greet Hillary (and give mo and pelosi the cold shoulder!!!) when she shows up for her speech Tuesday afternoon. Just cause we not going in doesn’t mean we can’t be on a public street!!!!

#223 MountainSong on 08.21.08 at 11:53 pm

Proof of Trolls:
I only posted my gmail addy here on this site. Yet I have received 2 emails in 2 days from the Dem’s Rapid Response Team.

#224 pa dem on 08.21.08 at 11:54 pm

I found it!

694 Maryland PUMA on 08.16.08 at 11:04 pm *** FOR THOSE WHO CAN NOT ATTEND IN DENVER ***

Members that would like a PUMA Pal to carry a rally sign with their name on it can donate $5 for the sign. (Thanks to JenniforHillary’s Mom and Wizard for the inspiration)

We will also offer POSTCARDS FROM DENVER. We will mail you, or your recipient, a postcard from Denver from the Convention for a $5 donation.

HERE’S HOW:

FIRST
Send in your donation on the contribute link with POSTCARD or SIGN in Purpose. Remember – $5 each.

SECOND
Send an email to CUinDenver@gmail.com.
Put POSTCARD or SIGN as subject
Include your e-receipt number (for tracking)

FOR POSTCARDS – how many and list addy(s) for recipient(s)

SIGNS – List text for sign. Let us know if someone has agreed to carry it for you or if you don’t have a preference – we’ll find you a PUMA Pal!

#225 Blue Blue Gal on 08.21.08 at 11:54 pm

maxgrader

thank you

a nicer compliment i have not had- (at least not recently !!)

#226 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:54 pm

#195 Vonay

:-)

#227 sychoram_in_MO on 08.21.08 at 11:55 pm

#223 MountainSong

I don’t think I’ve ever posted mine here, but I got 2 as well.. but I did do the prowl the other day using the DNC’s site4… maybe that’s where they came from

#228 diva2 on 08.21.08 at 11:55 pm

#138 Asian4 hillary

Well, Paulhillary put and offer out that he might be able to get a few airline tickets for people in need. REal or fantasy? Don’t know but why not send him a post

#229 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:56 pm

taffy–GREAT idea. What do you think would be nice…

#230 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:56 pm

#220 jenniforhillary
thank you
He is in Kitty Heaven. Miss him though.

#231 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:56 pm

Poupee cute name

#232 Taffy on 08.21.08 at 11:57 pm

kat..i’m just sitting here in my easy chair waiting for you guys to show up!! and i have about 12 bottles of wine hiding in my closet :D

#233 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:57 pm

i suppose rotten eggs for pelosi would be a no then

#234 halligan on 08.21.08 at 11:57 pm

#218 Diva2

Clink, Clink, Clink, Clink, Clink, Clink. Was that enough for all my PUMA friends. I bottled 47 tall ones of Dolchetto today. Ummmmm good! And yes, I’ll get a “Dances with PUMA” label on one and send the pic next week.

#235 DancesWithPumas on 08.21.08 at 11:58 pm

underwear and sox are packed! woot woot!

#236 sheila7 on 08.21.08 at 11:58 pm

Well Everyone,
I need to get some sleep. I just wanted to let you guys know that I can’t really say why right now but I do have reason to believe that Paul is for real. I’m pretty sure he is for what it’s worth.

#237 diva2 on 08.21.08 at 11:58 pm

#210 Maxgrader

How sweet and thank you!

#238 jenniforhillary on 08.21.08 at 11:58 pm

anderson–I actually had to get up and scoop up my rescues and kiss them all. I am crying thinking about my angel that I lost…5 years and I cannot talk about it.

I rescue others in his name and to continue the love.

#239 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 11:59 pm

2:08-cr-00494-JS USA v. FLORES-TAPIA filed 08/21/08
2:08-cr-00494-JS-1 MARCELINO FLORES-TAPIA filed 08/21/08
2:08-cr-00495-HB USA v. HOLMES filed 08/21/08
2:08-cr-00495-HB-1 TROY HOLMES filed 08/21/08
2:08-cr-00497-PD USA v. RONDON-HERRERA filed 08/21/08
2:08-cr-00497-PD-1 RAFAEL RONDON-HERRERA filed 08/21/08
2:08-cv-04068-JD SANTIAGO et al v. CITY OF PHILADELPHIA et al filed 08/21/08
2:08-cv-04072-EL LOAD RITE TRAILERS, INC. v. VENTURE TRAILERS, INC. filed 08/21/08
2:08-cv-04073-PBT CHAO v. FIVE STAR INDUSTRIAL SERVICES, INC. et al filed 08/21/08
2:08-cv-04074-JF A.F. OF L.-A.G.C. BUILDING TRADES WELFARE PLAN v. SMITHKLINE BEECHAM CORPORATION filed 08/21/08
2:08-mc-00150-UJ SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION v. COADUM ADVISORS, INC. et al filed 08/21/08
2:08-mj-01115 USA v. PRIL et al filed 08/21/08
2:08-mj-01115-1 CHHUN PRIL filed 08/21/08
2:08-mj-01115-2 TONY NGUYEN filed 08/21/08
2:08-mj-01115-3 OLUTONKUNBO EFFUNNUGA filed 08/21/08
2:08-mj-01115-4 JENNIFER KHOUNSACKNARATH filed 08/21/08
2:08-mj-01115-5 DANNY KLOT filed 08/21/08

ughhh i hope it appears tomorrow

#240 goandersen on 08.21.08 at 11:59 pm

BillieJo is on her way back!
Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Clink.

#241 sandipuma on 08.21.08 at 11:59 pm

Hey good idea #228 and i know if it wasn’t for the ones i am going with i couldn’t go.

#242 PaulHillary on 08.21.08 at 11:59 pm

I hope this is not another mess

#243 Flowerchild2 on 08.21.08 at 11:59 pm

BillieJo: No don’t do that. I love reading your posts. Obama isn’t going to pick her. She’s not on his short-list, but she should be. He’s stupid not to pick her all along, but he’s too arrogant. Have you seen the clips of Hillary? She looks tired and drained, and when she mentions him, her voice is monotone and she looks sad. Her heart isn’t in this. I could be wrong of course, but I really think he’s too arrogant.

#244 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:00 am

what is real anymore in this world. Bo is almost running for president and kids in africa have cell phones but no food….

who would have thought

#245 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:00 am

Go…
where did billijo go?

#246 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:00 am

#238 jenniforhillary

It is a loss I will never get over. I hear ya!

#247 Marty1 on 08.22.08 at 12:00 am

Good Night everyone,
It is getting late here in the South and is my bedtime.
Just another big Thanks for this site and all the people who care enough for our Country and each other.
To all the folks who are sacrificing sleep, money, time with family members, and taking personal risk…
Thank you!
Marty1…in Alabama

#248 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 12:01 am

Think mo and pelosi freak out if we show up in full puma gear? How about sign I hocked my 600 buck earrings fro a PUMA shirt????? :D

#249 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:01 am

247 Marty1

Sweet Dreams!

#250 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:01 am

Why are people leaving? PUMA isn’t just about who gets nominated or elected. It’s also about a movement, a crusade for reform in the electoral process, and could very well grow into a legitimate political party.
“People UNITED Means Action.” If you leave, I guess that says alot about your concept of ‘unity’.
But good luck in all you endeavor. It’s been a special privilege working with you. Can’t EVEN believe asian and billi jo are leaving!!!!

#251 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:01 am

Sheila, good night!

#252 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:01 am

#245 DancesWithPumas

She is re-grouping.

#253 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:02 am

From Carolyn (makethemaccountable)

UPDATE–COMPLAINT TO BE AVAILABLE ON PACER AT 10 AM ET TOMORROW, BERG ARGUES MOTION FOR RESTRAINING ORDER, ALSO IN THE MORNING

Attorney Phil Berg of Philadephia, PA alleges that Obama is not a us citizen nor his he “natural born” and within the next 30 minutes will be filing a complaint and motion for a temporary restraining order prohibiting Obama from running for Office of the President and enjoining the DNC from naming Obama as a nominee for Democratic Presidential election.

IN PHILADELPHIA: US District Court, Eastern District of PA, 2nd floor Clerk’s Office on 601 Market Street in Philadelphia, PA

#254 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:02 am

Marty 1 , Good night!

#255 sychoram_in_MO on 08.22.08 at 12:02 am

#248 Taffy

OMG I almost blew tequilla out of my nose on that one

#256 sheila7 on 08.22.08 at 12:02 am

Good night Halligan. :)

#257 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 12:03 am

Be back in a bit and all those leaving to sleep sweet dreams and Puma Love

#258 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 12:03 am

We could carry copies of Hillary’s books think of pelosi’s reaction priceless!!!!! :lol:

#259 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:03 am

NO ONE IS LEAVING….no one. Come on PUMA people let’s circle, hold hands, and remember that we are the ones we have been waiting for :)

Let’s agree to give everyone the benefit of the doubt in the next few days. We are all working under ridiculous circumstances and emotions are at an all time high. I have 20 or so nightmares everynight and my parents called the rabbi to ask him to do an exorcism :)

#260 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:03 am

248 Taffy ~~~ Sorry bout ur earings….but YOU ROCK, Sister!

#261 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:03 am

TAFFY that is SO BRILLIANT…..

#262 bruce55555 on 08.22.08 at 12:03 am

138 Asian4Hillary
Your “bye for now” is for now, this evening, right?
I love reading your posts, it’s for now, this evening? please?

and BillieJo, your posts are from-the-heart too, we need you here, you’ll be right back, right? please?

#263 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 12:04 am

No..i pawned my rock :lol:

#264 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:04 am

Yeya…what jenni said!

#265 4hillinca on 08.22.08 at 12:04 am

Good Night Sheila.
There is absolutely NO WAY I will vote for Obama….even if Hillary was VP (which she won’t be).

#266 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:05 am

Does anyone else feel that this “house” thing is downright “stupid”? Isn’t there something else Obama and McCain can talk about over dinner?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103532_pf.html

#267 diva2 on 08.22.08 at 12:05 am

#238 Jenniferforhillary

I have 3 rescued dogs am love them so much. When I had lots of yard, all of my dogs were rescued. I totally understand. Thank goodness for your beautiful heart and what you have given them!

I also want to thank you for your very gracious gift to southjerseypuma. I helped her a bit, then I told her you posted that you would help and I think a friend gave her a few $$ after Southjersey told her about her little angels. Well, you are the big angel and I am the little one.

#268 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:05 am

Mountainsong: Really? I’ve posted my gmail address here countless times and never gotten a Dem response team email. It might be from the Corsi prowl….b/c the last time I used the Dem website to send a letter to the editor, I somehow got stuck back on their mailing list.

#269 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:05 am

And I can hear Diva’s doggies from here…:-)

#270 doria on 08.22.08 at 12:05 am

BILLIEJO #136 Sweet fancy Moses, get your butt back here! You are a part of our family. Just because you would vote for Hillary as VP is no reason to leave…as long as you don’t try to persuade others which you never do.
I don’t want to lose anyone. Come home, silly Puma.

#271 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:06 am

Let’s talk about our PUMA victory party. I think Hillary and Bill will let us use the front lawn of the white house don’t you…..

#272 KarlaforHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:06 am

Good night everyone. Good luck to everyone in Denver. I hope you all don’t end up in cages.

I hope that everyone can come back happy and get some rest when Hillary is our nominee. I am still praying for that.

You are all super people. I hope those who are thinking of leaving decide to stay. Tensions are high right now, but we are all here for the same reasons. Take care and sweet dreams.

#273 PumaCry on 08.22.08 at 12:06 am

With regard to the filing of the federal lawsuit on Obama’s eligibility.

What happens if they nominate him then the matter is exposed? Does the VP automatically step in as the replacement of the nominee? I find it hard to believe that someone not voted on by the populace could just step in and be Presidential nominee.

Would they go back and re do the process and nominate Hillary, or open it up to all former candidates.
Surely they wouldn’t just appoint someone (another selected corrupt choosing)? Any lawyers in the bunch up on the rules, please respond. Thanks

#274 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:06 am

I just got that just now…..I know it says 10am BUT how come there are other cases from today or yesterday on there….I noticed the case # falls i n line though. I hope it is not a wasted trip to PA

#275 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:07 am

#266 halligan

Hillary, we need you……..NOW!

#276 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:07 am

diva…animals are angels on earth and I thank god every day for the loan…

and I am so glad that Jersey let me help her go to Denver. I am going to live through her. We spoke the other night on the phone and I LOVE her accent and her attitude. She is WONDERFUL!!

#277 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 12:07 am

seriously people…i’ve seen the protest area. and all you will see is other protesters. if you want to see Hillary Tuesday speech at the hotel will probably be the only chance!!! should plan for it!!!!

#278 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:07 am

#272 KarlaforHillary

Good Night. Sweet Dreams….

#279 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:08 am

Good Night, Karla

#273 PumaCry

Did the lawsuit get filed today?

#280 queen81 on 08.22.08 at 12:08 am

Time for some humor PUMAS!

Alright here is my prediction for Denver in the style of the Golden Girls Sophia Petrillo:

Picture it, Denver 2008. A group of PUMAS converged on the city with a dream and a mission. They laughed, they cried, they drank far to much and ended up taking turns dancing with the life size Hillary cut out..but I digress

When the week was over, they emerged tired, but victorious because they had achieved the impossible and Hillary was our nominee

and that’s why to this day, there’s still a life size Hillary cut out floating around the bars of Denver!

#281 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:08 am

My understanding from talking to several people is that if he IS nominated and he chooses a VP who is also nominated then the VP will take over. ONLY after the convention if they choose to do that. I am sure you would see a lawsuit from Hillary (RIGHTFULLY SO) so fast it would make your head spin!

#282 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:08 am

Maryland PUMA

I know you get a ton of emails but did you get my email? I prefer not to posts specifics on what the topic was?

#283 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:08 am

What’s the old saying? ‘Women! Ya can’t live with em, and ya can’t live without em”?
Poor Obama can’t get elected with One, or without One. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

#284 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:09 am

#275 go

Right on! :-)

#285 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:09 am

#280 queen81

LOL!

#286 KarlaforHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:10 am

#278 goandersen

Good night and sweet dreams to you too. Thanks for always taking the time to let me know that you notice that I am here. You always make me feel good. You are one Puma that really rocks!!!

#287 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 12:10 am

#280 queen81-I love Sophia! I have been watching Golden Girl DVDs while resting my wrist this past week. And they provided humor, which I needed since I couldn’t even scroll to read the blog. I have been in Puma withdrawal.

#288 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:11 am

Can we stop with the Lawsuit? Until there is concrete evidence on that, it is just irritating and messing up my high!

#289 bruce55555 on 08.22.08 at 12:11 am

sandipuma
I just read your posts, I hope you’re feeling much better! :-D

#290 diva2 on 08.22.08 at 12:11 am

#264 MountainSong

Did you see my post yesterday asking your help with your healing powers for my bad back pain? I thought you said you were a healer? We could email but if you’d rather not I totally understand. Give it a thought. MarylandPuma can give you my email.

#291 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:11 am

I want us to all imagine a Hillary Victory in Denver. I think we deserve a good dream sleep tonight. I will be the one screaming so loud from texas that you will hear my chant for days…

HILL R WE HILL R WE HILL R WE!!!

I love EVERY PUMA. I love all dreamers. I love all animals and children. I love the possibility hope provides. I love my parents even though they called the rabbi (he told them that I was NOT possessed by satan just being me…don’t know how to take that but oh well)….

LOVE TO PUMAS!! LOVE TO HILLARY BILL AND CHELSEA….the rest of them can kiss my grits!!

good night sweet ones

#292 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:11 am

“Update on Federal Lawsuit [Update 1]”
August 21, 2008 · Update 1: Case #08-CV-4083
This is the information I have received as of 5:28 PM EST:

Papers have been filed, not yet scanned into the Pacer system.

The complaint is asking for declaratory (asking the court to declare Obama is not a US citizen, a “natural born” citizen and not eligible under the qualifications of the US Constitution to run for Office of President).

Also asking for injunctive relief and an emergency TRO. Further asking for EXPEDITED Discovery.

We are asking that Obama provide a “ceritified copy” of the oath he took to regain his citizenship.
We are asking for court orders, ordering the state department, HI department of records and other governmental agencies to turn over any and everything on Obama, all certified.

Plaintiff: PHILIP J. BERG

Defendant:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a/k/a
BARRY SOETORO, a/k/a
BARRY OBAMA , a/k/a
BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a
BARRY DUNHAM, THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL
ELECTION COMMISSION AND
DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE

I have no additional information.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/update-on-federal-lawsuit/

#293 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:11 am

286 KarlaforHillary

Back at ya girl! Bite the bugs!

#294 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:12 am

Karla,

Ditto. Go is so witty and picks up on everyone’s need to be heard.

#295 maxgrader on 08.22.08 at 12:12 am

MountainSong:

Asian and Billie jo are level headed thinkers who encourage the best out of pumas like us. I’m hoping they will reconsider for they are favorites of mine.

#296 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:13 am

252 goandersen
oh, ok.

I’m sorta packing… and sorta missing everything on the blog.

#297 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:13 am

#292 South

Thanks for the information on the lawsuit filing. After its scanned, what is the next step. I’m not really very familiar with the court system procedures.

#298 KarlaforHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:14 am

Halligan

Good night to you too, and you are right about Go–she is awesome!

#299 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:14 am

#296 DancesWithPumas

Trust me darlin, you ain’t missing nothing! Pack some Southern Comfort too!

#300 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:14 am

final note: I called and it has been filed and it is the real deal. only question is what will happen with it….

the legal system is not very justiciable…that is why I don’t practice law….

#301 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 12:15 am

259 jenniforhillary
i remember two or three days ago someone saying something like (forgive me for not going and finding the post)- please give a heads up when it’s cocktail time so that i don’t spew all over my computer – ( and now you all know why i don’t tell jokes- i totally ruin them)
“I have 20 or so nightmares everynight and my parents called the rabbi to ask him to do an exorcism ”
i am sooooooooooo roflmao !!!!!!!

#302 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:15 am

Evidently it is to be heard tomorrow. I think there should be someone there who can report back so I am meeting some old friends from Hillary’s campaign there and seeing what we can find out. I hope its not a loss for everything cause I am going later to Denver.

#303 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:15 am

Oh never mind, talk on.

#304 Maryland PUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:15 am

#282 mzebest

No recent ones?

#305 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:16 am

299 goandersen
oooh. That good huh?

#306 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:16 am

#288 Go

That’s the way I’ve felt about the birth certificate issue, but it must be important to someone. I have no doubt in my mind that he IS A CITZEN. I have lots of friends who have dual citizenship. There parents were in all kinds of situations, but because one was a U.S. citizen, the offsprings still have the right for citizenship. O’s mom was in Hawaii when she died. As far as I could tell in reading and listening, she never gave up her citizenship to the U.S. He still gains citizenship through her.

#307 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 12:17 am

billiejo said in #198 she will come back but needs a time out. we need to respect her wishes. PUMAs are energetic and we’ve been so hyped. We need to focus on something and goandersen seems to want comedy so…….

#308 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:17 am

#305 DancesWithPumas

On my third Mike’s. They are all lovely people though..

#309 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:17 am

Obama to McCain:
How many houses do you guys own?”
McCain: “Well, gee, I don’t know for sure.” How many crooks do YOU have in your closet and back pocket?”
Obama: “Well, I don’t know for sure….I lost count.”

#310 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:17 am

Maryland…hi!
Your mother was lovely this morning.
Told us as many secrets about you as she knew.
A good time was had by all.

#311 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:18 am

halligan: I think being a dual citizen means you can’t be President though. Conflict of Interest and all that…

#312 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:18 am

blue–don’t laugh because I have to live this life :)

#313 4hillinca on 08.22.08 at 12:19 am

#309 MountainSong

Or to Obama..how many states are there?
Where are the Great Lakes?

#314 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:19 am

Yuk! My spelling is terrible tonight. Too much Dolchetto……..

#315 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:19 am

#306 halligan

It’s okay. I will just skim past the lawsuit posts.
bobo’s mother was very young when she had him. Something about her age and the length of time she was here that is in question. Don’t ask me. I wait for all the facts and hang on to little of the inbetweenie stuff.

#316 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 12:20 am

Looking forward to the posts from Denver and thinking about all the Pumas there. Good night, Pumas.

#317 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:20 am

I want to just hear the motions…I dont believe that if the case was filed any attorney admitted to a federal court would make a jerk out of themselves ya know? I hope for heavens sake its not someone who took a case and is gonna be made a fool of. I hope there is concrete fact and they send an injunctive order directly to Howard Dean personally on whatever BO bus he’s riding to say….STOP!

#318 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:20 am

#316 webfoot
Good Night!

Ribbit, Ribbit!

#319 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:22 am

Jenniforhillary & Diva2~

you both have a heart of gold!! I will never forget your generousity for me to be in Denver for something I believe in~ and to represent you too! I hope Diva2 you are coming? and if not, I will be sure to carry a sign with both your names also~ Jenni can you let me know on that letter? I havent got it still~ and Diva, please let me know your plans~ I hope some PUMA will offer to house you~ L♥ve to you both!

#320 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:22 am

#311 PA

You got me there……too much Dolchetto, not thinking right :-)

#321 jenniforhillary on 08.22.08 at 12:22 am

I don’t think he can legally be running for president. I have read it all and as Judge Judy says if it don’t sound right it ain’t right….

But I am not sure it matters…nothing else seems to anymore…

#322 yellowMcpuma08 on 08.22.08 at 12:23 am

BillieJo, getting ready to beg you ….. Please don’t go, but thanks God you are back

#323 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:24 am

304 Maryland PUMA

I’ll resend. Keep an eye out for it.

#324 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:24 am

I just hate that he can say whatever he wants to and get away with it….After all…..as Hillary said in every rally I was at (some seemed to be the same) night after night! This is a really long interview, and you are just figuring out who is best for the job. I think everyone is figuring out its not him!

#325 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 12:25 am

#202 lilibet

I know how that feels this time last year I had to put my dog to sleep, I had hime for 18 years, then a few months later on my birthday i had to put my 21 year olt cat to sleep.

One hell of a year that I was happy to see end.

#326 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:25 am

#322 yellowMcpuma08
Interesting name. yellowMcPuma.

#327 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 12:25 am

well he didn’t get very far with this one. I’m not gonna hold my breath! I need to stick around for noboma!!!

http://www.911forthetruth.com/

#328 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:26 am

BillieJo is taking a walk down to the liquor store and will be right back!
:lol:

#329 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:27 am

http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=102711

2:15 p.m. – Bill Gwatney’s Wife to Serve as DNC Delegate
Reported by: KARK 4 News
Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 @02:15pm CST

The wife of slain Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney will fill her husbands’s seat on the Arkansas delegation to the Democratic National Convention that starts Monday.

#330 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:27 am

#327 Taffy I hope I didnt waste my time :(

#331 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:27 am

I sent you an email Maryland

#332 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 12:28 am

jenniforhillary
not laughing at you-
have been in so many similar situations –
my current rabbi got so mad at me that he cut me from the fri Torah info – with my tail between my legs and my whiskers drooping (sp?) in shame, i apologized big time.

#333 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:28 am

#329 pa dem

Ugh. Give her strength!

#334 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:28 am

290 diva2 ~~~diva~~~yes, I am a healer. But not a voodoo healer. As I have said, we create our own reality. Where we are right now, in this moment, is our own creation. You will have to join me in creating the knowledge that your back pain is gone.
You have to believe this.

I have no disc left between my two lowest vertebrae, the next 3 above those have bulging discs. In the middle, thoracic part of my back I have spinal stenosis, a thickening of the sheath surrounding my spinal cord putting pressure on nerves. And in the upper part of my spine I have another bulging disc.
Because of these conditions I created a reality of pain.
Then I meditated and created a changed state where there is NO pain. And I have not had back pain since.
This ‘technique’ was taught to me by an elder.
If you think you are poor, you will be poor and treated as poor, because it is he reality you have created for yourself.
I think jenni basically understand this concept, and by positive affirmations is creating the moment when Hillary succeeds.
I don’t know where you are to physically put my hands on the place of pain. But together, you and I can create the painless state. I have already begun I BELIEVE your pain is leaving and will soon be gone completely. Only your own doubts can make it not so.

#335 yellowMcpuma08 on 08.22.08 at 12:29 am

#326 Goandersen, Thank you Goandersen, I;m here because you, you were the first person I heard about Pumapac

#336 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:29 am

#331 mzebest

She is sleeping now.

#337 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:30 am

#335 yellowMcpuma08
Really? Where?

#338 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:31 am

Toiletries packed. Check.

Am I good, or what?

#339 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 12:31 am

#329 Pa Dem ,My question will they be delegates for obama or hillary?

#340 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:31 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2598371/Hillary-Clinton-brother-in-meeting-to-support-John-McCain.html

#341 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:31 am

Citizenship and McCain:

By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: July 11, 2008
In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”

The analysis, by Prof. Gabriel J. Chin, focused on a 1937 law that has been largely overlooked in the debate over Mr. McCain’s eligibility to be president. The law conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, and it made John McCain a citizen just before his first birthday. But the law came too late, Professor Chin argued, to make Mr. McCain a natural-born citizen.

“It’s preposterous that a technicality like this can make a difference in an advanced democracy,” Professor Chin said. “But this is the constitutional text that we have.”

Several legal experts said that Professor Chin’s analysis was careful and plausible. But they added that nothing was very likely to follow from it.

“No court will get close to it, and everyone else is on board, so there’s a constitutional consensus, the merits of arguments such as this one aside,” said Peter J. Spiro, an authority on the law of citizenship at Temple University.

Mr. McCain has dismissed any suggestion that he does not meet the citizenship test.

In April, the Senate approved a nonbinding resolution declaring that Mr. McCain is eligible to be president. Its sponsors said the nation’s founders would have never intended to deny the presidency to the offspring of military personnel stationed out of the country.

A lawsuit challenging Mr. McCain’s qualifications is pending in the Federal District Court in Concord, N.H.

There are, Professor Chin argued in his analysis, only two ways to become a natural-born citizen. One, specified in the Constitution, is to be born in the United States. The other way is to be covered by a law enacted by Congress at the time of one’s birth.

Professor Chin wrote that simply being born in the Canal Zone did not satisfy the 14th Amendment, which says that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

A series of early-20th-century decisions known as the Insular Cases, he wrote, ruled that unincorporated territories acquired by the United States were not part of the nation for constitutional purposes. The Insular Cases did not directly address the Canal Zone. But the zone was generally considered an unincorporated territory before it was returned to Panama in 1999, and some people born in the Canal Zone when it was under American jurisdiction have been deported from the United States or convicted of being here illegally.

The second way Mr. McCain could have, and ultimately did, become a citizen was by statute, Professor Chin wrote. In Rogers v. Bellei in 1971, the Supreme Court said Congress had broad authority to decide whether and when children born to American citizens abroad are citizens.

At the time of Mr. McCain’s birth, the relevant law granted citizenship to any child born to an American parent “out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.” Professor Chin said the term “limits and jurisdiction” left a crucial gap. The Canal Zone was beyond the limits of the United States but not beyond its jurisdiction, and thus the law did not apply to Mr. McCain.

In 1937, Congress addressed the problem, enacting a law that granted citizenship to people born in the Canal Zone after 1904. That made Mr. McCain a citizen, but not one who was naturally born, Professor Chin said, because the citizenship was conferred after his birth.

In his paper and in an interview, Professor Chin, a registered Democrat, said he had no political motive in raising the question.

In March, Laurence H. Tribe, a law professor at Harvard and an adviser to Senator Barack Obama, prepared a memorandum on these questions with Theodore B. Olson, a former solicitor general in the Bush administration. The memorandum concluded that Mr. McCain is a natural-born citizen based on the place of his birth, the citizenship of his parents and their service to the country.

In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Olson, whose firm represents Mr. McCain in the New Hampshire lawsuit, said Congress could not have intended to leave the gap described by Professor Chin. The 1937 law, Mr. Olson said, was not a fix but a way to clarify what Congress had meant all along.

Professor Tribe agreed. Reading the “limits and jurisdiction” clause as Professor Chin does, Professor Tribe said, “is to attribute a crazy design to Congress” that “would create an irrational gap.”

Brian Rogers, a McCain spokesman, said the campaign concurred and was confident Mr. McCain is eligible to serve.

In the motion to dismiss the New Hampshire suit, Mr. McCain’s lawyers said an individual citizen like the plaintiff, a Nashua man named Fred Hollander, lacks proof of direct injury and cannot sue.

Daniel P. Tokaji, an election law expert at Ohio State University, agreed. “It is awfully unlikely that a federal court would say that an individual voter has standing,” he said. “It is questionable whether anyone would have standing to raise that claim. You’d have to think a federal court would look for every possible way to avoid deciding the issue.”

Carl Hulse contributed reporting.

#342 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 12:31 am

#338 DancesWithPumas

Wow you are moving fast!!!!

#343 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:31 am

#339: I don’t know, but since we are writing Superdelegates, she now counts as one…

#344 KENDALBLUE on 08.22.08 at 12:32 am

BillieJoe, I was away for awhile and came back to find this mess. I would like to say to you that you are very much loved here, and I would hate to see you leave. You are an intelligent, caring, and inspiring individual. To hell with what SOME of the people here think about your views. They are yours, and you are entitled to have them. Please stay here. You are needed.

#345 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:32 am

LMAO!! my daughter joined a web page and it sent me a notice~ this is my reason also for denver, to protect her future as well as al my other children, but she is toooooo much!!! I love her spirit!! L@@K at her name;

Below is the Username and Password your child provided:

User Name: Hillary”08″
Password: mommy205

#346 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 08.22.08 at 12:33 am

Hi everyone! Started the day by delivering my daughter’s baby. It’s a boy ! and now, Just flew into Tulsa on a late flight for hubby’s follow up for cancer treatment. Still couldn’t resist checking in w/ pumas.

This headline is just funny!

Text hoaxes plague Obama VP plan

CHESAPEAKE, Va. – By the time Barack Obama is ready to announce his vice presidential pick, will anyone believe him?
ADVERTISEMENT

In recent days, as speculation and anticipation has mounted, so too have phony text messages declaring Obama’s supposed running mate – from Evan Bayh and Hillary Rodham Clinton to Olympic gold medalist Michael Phelps.

It’s a cruel twist in a prolonged game of guessing that has put political junkies and Democratic supporters on edge since the campaign announced last week that it would disclose Obama’s choice through text messaging, which is expected to happen by Saturday…..Layne said he has personally sent about 50 messages announcing Mondale.

“So many of my so-called friends have sent hoax (texts) to me now,” he added, “that I’ll probably end up ignoring the real one.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080822/pl_politico/12704

#347 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:33 am

#338 DancesWithPumas

undies and socks? Jacket? candle?

#348 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:33 am

#336 goandersen

Thanks for letting me know… I keep missing her. :-)

#349 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:34 am

#348 mzebest
They are swamped. Tired pumas……

#350 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:34 am

Aug. 17th article about Obama’s citizenship:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656

#351 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 12:35 am

#302 PaulHillary

“Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit–just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver–for the health of the Democratic Party.

“I filed this action at this time,” Berg stated, “to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.”

————————–

In the past Berg has sued the Bush White House over 9/11, and filed a motion for 3 of the Supreme Court Justices who ruled against Gore in Florida to be disbarred.

Some paint Berg as a “nutcase”. However, PUMAS are painted that way, as well – and so were those appalled at the Bush-Cheney election(s) and their “case” for war against IRAQ.

——————

WHO KNOWS WHAT IS UP OR DOWN ANYMORE. Obama and the DNC have done so much more damage to the political process and voter confidence that it will take years to unravel and restore, if ever.

The destruction to our country that Bush-Cheney started was only the beginning. Leave it to the copycats – Obama and the DNC – to take into the pit of hell.

#352 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:35 am

#345 SouthJerseyPUMA

LOL!

#353 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:35 am

342 PaulHillary

At this juncture in the puma pac “could you do me a favor?” cycle, I most certainly am.

#354 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:36 am

313 4hillinca ~~~Obama: “There are 57 states, and the Great Lakes are in umm, ah, well F-F-FFFlorida. Except for Tahoe.”

#355 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:37 am

352~ yes go~ :lol: :lol: :lol:

#356 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:37 am

southjerseypuma
was going to do my packing for $3. She hasn’t shown up yet, so I’m docking her pay. By the time I get to Denver, she’s going to owe me money.

#357 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:39 am

#355 SouthJerseyPUMA

Very sweet :)

#358 lilibet on 08.22.08 at 12:39 am

Thank you so very much, GoAnderson. PUMA POUPEE, it is!

#359 pumetta on 08.22.08 at 12:39 am

#78 Caracal Carrie,

Sorry that I’m unable to read all the posts. What is it that pumas were sending to you, and what was it for?

Thanks.

#360 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 12:40 am

#351 wontbackdown

Have I told you yet today how much I love you :P

#361 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 12:40 am

goanderson , Do you have any pictures of hillary? Do you have the one of her in the rain?

#362 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 12:41 am

Hi everybody just got back from a late dinner out.
Did I miss anything?

#363 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:41 am

#361 tennaseepuma

Why yes, I do.

#364 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:41 am

349 goandersen

I know they have a lot on their minds… and I hate bugging them with anything more… just I have a concern about a certain username on this blog… and maybe you know who I mean.

#365 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:41 am

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

Anyone born inside the United States
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Separate sections handle territories that the United States has acquired over time, such as Puerto Rico (8 USC 1402), Alaska (8 USC 1404), Hawaii (8 USC 1405), the U.S. Virgin Islands (8 USC 1406), and Guam (8 USC 1407). Each of these sections confer citizenship on persons living in these territories as of a certain date, and usually confer natural-born status on persons born in those territories after that date. For example, for Puerto Rico, all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, are automatically conferred citizenship as of the date the law was signed by the President (June 27, 1952). Additionally, all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, are natural-born citizens of the United States. Note that because of when the law was passed, for some, the natural-born status was retroactive.

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was “declared” to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms “natural-born” or “citizen at birth” are missing from this section.

In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized that because McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): “a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person.”

#366 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:42 am

Ya know, if Obama gre a beard, he would strongly resemble a guy named Osama.

#367 Flowerchild2 on 08.22.08 at 12:42 am

If O was born in the US, in Hawaii, he is a citizen. If you are born outside the US, and one parent is a citizen, you claim citizenship through the parent who is one. But you have to go to court and file to become a citizen. The only way this injunction could be filed, is if there is proof he was not born in the US. Soo why then are his birth records sealed? There’s something there that they don’t want to be seen if that is indeed true.

#368 Volcanogirl2 on 08.22.08 at 12:42 am

Maryland- I wanted to share this website. Obama’s comments reminded me of a high school girl. I figured the pumas woud get a kick out of it. :) I’m volcanogirl (webfoot’s daughter). I had to change my name and register again cause I forgot my password. Oops. :( http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20080821/Veepstakes/

#369 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:42 am

sorry DWP~ but I am a broke PUMA, so you would have to stand in line~ lol… and I was packing for the trip to come help you, but GOANDERSEN got me loupy with that hard lemonaide!! I am a lite weight!!! it’s all his fault!!! :lol:

anyway, do I hear $5?? {gas is expensive ya know!}

#370 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 12:43 am

goanderson,would you be willing to email some to me?

#371 pa dem on 08.22.08 at 12:43 am

A friend of mine asked me who the front company was for the out of country donations, and as I am not familiar enough with this site to trust it, can anyone verify it for me?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71431

Illegal Obama donors: Middle Eastern Arabs
Gazan brothers’ illicit contributions listed in government campaign filings

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Posted: August 04, 2008
11:17 am Eastern
Last week, the Atlas Shrugs blog outlined a series of donations in 2007 made to Obama’s campaign from two individuals, Monir Edwan and Hosam Edwan, totaling $29,521.54.

In an online form on Obama’s campaign site, the Edwans listed their street as “Tal Esaltan,” which they wrote was located in “Rafah, GA.”

Rafah is not a city in Georgia. The Atlas blog immediately raised concerns that the money may have been donated from the Gaza Strip town of Rafah.

#372 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:43 am

Okay, in my own defense, the reason it took so long to pack a few toiletries is that everytime I pushed teh shampoo plunger down, in order to screw it in, a gusg of shampoo came out. I never did get the plunger cap screwed in, but I had to clean up the huge mess I made in the bathroom sink and on the counter.
So there! Now you know.

#373 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 12:44 am

#368 SouthJerseyPUMA

pssst Go is a girl lol

#374 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:44 am

#364 mzebest
hint

#375 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:45 am

#368 SouthJerseyPUMA

Here, have another! :lol:

#376 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:45 am

361~ tennaseepuma~

you will enjoy this~ all Hillary!! rain pic is in PA folder

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hillaryclinton/sets/

enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#377 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:45 am

mzebest
PH

#378 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:46 am

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jeesh… foot in mouth disease!!!!!!!!!!

#379 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 12:46 am

Thanks SouthJersey puma,by the way i was born in trenton.

#380 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 12:46 am

#376 goandersen

noooooooooooooooooo say it isn’t so!

#381 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:47 am

#371 DancesWithPumas

LMAO!

Glad I’m not rooming with you! lolololol

#382 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:47 am

#371 Dances

Oh my! White foam clouds of bubbles all over the bathroom. Seriously, just turn the knob a hard left AND DON’T PUSH DOWN.

#383 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 12:48 am

Wonder if O promised Rezko he would sell him a lot next to the White House to repay the favor.

#384 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 12:48 am

#360 TrishfromCanada:

Uh Oh… must sound like I need to hear that? LOL!

#385 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:48 am

#379 TrishfromCanada

Pricking bubbles! What fun! lololol

#386 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:50 am

and i knew that! :roll:

#387 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:50 am

#364 mzebest
Best to just leave it for now, it will be dealt with in the am.

#388 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 12:50 am

#383 wontbackdown

lol nope, it was cause i loved your post

#389 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:50 am

For All PUMAS going to Denver.

Remember, when you get in your hotel, motel, tent, etc., BE CAREFUL NOT TO OPEN YOUR BOTTLES, TUBES or ANYTHING UNDERPRESSURE very fast. You may wish you didn’t as the contents will be squirting out on you , your face or anyone next to you. Remember, you’re a mile high. Every summer when I go to Colorado, my tubes and bottles just have a hey day with me. I’ve gotten to the point of sticking them all in a zip-lock bag and opening them in the bag.

#390 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 12:50 am

BillieJoe,
I haven’t had much of an opportunity to blog, but the few times I do, I am sincerely touched by your kindness and your very generous heart. It is very obvious that you are very much loved, and we ALL collectively would not be the same without YOU! Like a family, disagreements happen . . but we don’t cease to be ONE with each other! You area very intelligent, and inspirational person. A brief “break” from one another can be good . .we can all therefore begin to appreciate one another more! Just don’t forget where “home ” is!
:)

Dances . . you will make SO CAL proud! I’m SOOO
envious of you all! PLEASE keep us informed!

#391 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 12:51 am

Is the West Coasters gang here?

#392 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:51 am

#379 TrishfromCanada

Long arms included with purchase.

#393 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:51 am

373 goandersen

See the very last post (from me) downstairs

#394 hillstheone on 08.22.08 at 12:51 am

TOPIC: Delirious Poetry
goanderson, Dances, everyone,
I wasn’t able to check out the BLOG much at all today & I only have a few minutes now, I swear I am going through severe PUMA Blog withdrawls!!! (is that how you spell withdrawls??!!)

Anyway can’t wait to meet everyone!!

“Twas the weekend before Denver
And all through the house
Not a mainstream media host was playing
Not even Olbermann, that louse

The Hillary sign was laminated,
ready for a parade
PUMA videos were playing
A sweet saranade
The suitcase was set in the hallway with care
In hopes that a taxicab soon would be there!!”

& how about:

“On Dances, On Sandi, On billjo there
On kendall and anti , we really do care!
Be safe on your travels, have a sweet comfy flight
Now goodnight to all, and to all a goodnight!”

LOL, see what happens with just one glass of wine…

#395 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:52 am

See, I told you Billiejo would stagger back! lol

#396 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:52 am

Seriously, just turn the knob a hard left AND DON’T PUSH DOWN.
—————————————————
It isnt that kind of plunger… teh threaded “coupling” is attached to the actual plunger (Bed Head).

#397 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 12:52 am

South were you talking to me about what you knew?

#398 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 12:52 am

#376 goandersen

Yep… sorry… just saw this post from you… you guessed it.

#399 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:53 am

#388 halligan

Thanks. I will wait until Dances is around. lolol

#400 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 12:53 am

Here Billiejo! YEAH! THAT wasn’t long! :)

#401 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 12:53 am

I haven’t read the blog for awhile but I am very moved by all of your kind words and am glad to have a home in the den with all of you. I think my emotions are shot to h@ll, fighting the battle for so long has been difficult for all of us.
{{{Hugs}}} to my PUMA friends.

#402 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:54 am

#393 hillstheone

Good Lord Girl! Keep it coming! And thank you!

#403 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 12:55 am

Glad your back billiejo……..if i knew how to post a smile i would.

#404 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:55 am

okay! jeans and blouses packed!
Why, you ask, she she boring us to death with a play by play of her packing rituals?
Because, she answered, I hate packing and will use almost anything as a diversionary tactic!

#405 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 12:55 am

{{{ :) }}}

#406 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:55 am

go and dances

I’m having a belly laugh. Can hardly keyboard……

#407 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:55 am

392 mzebest
ok

#408 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 12:56 am

#198 BillieJo,

Hang in there. We all have the same goal to support Hillary until after the convention. If she is the nominee then we will all still be on the same page. If BO is the nominee then the mission for Puma will change and then a lot of pumas will leave and go their own way. I don’t agree with your views of Hillary as VP but that is not an issue yet. Who knows what the puma mission will be after the convention? If BO is the nominee I may become a republican and start supporting John McCain. If that is the case then I will be the one to leave so hang in there and see what happens

#409 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:56 am

Ah Dances

Just throw the clothes around your neck and try to get past security…. :-)

#410 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 12:56 am

#389 Rancho
Thank you PUMA. That means a lot to me.

#411 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 12:57 am

Excuse my manners Pumas.

Good Evening ya’ll!!!

#412 Flowerchild2 on 08.22.08 at 12:57 am

#382 Mountain Song: ROFL

#413 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 12:57 am

398 goandersen
Oh… thank you so very much pal.

#414 yellowMcpuma08 on 08.22.08 at 12:58 am

Goandersen, I use to lurk HC blog, after she suspended her campaing, I read one of your post announcing you were moving to Pumapac, since then I’m lurking here but I started posting here few days ago.

#415 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 12:58 am

BillieJo~ I meant to ask the same thing~ but would say we have another hour to go for west coasters~ and glad you came back! ♥

tennasee~ ohh no, just saying I knew goandersen was a girl, just a senior moment… lol… :lol:

#416 halligan on 08.22.08 at 12:59 am

#390 BillieJo

Yep, the West Coast gang is here! We’re the late night wrecking crew…..and we purposely keep goanderson awake.

#417 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:59 am

#410 texassherry

Good evening darlin!

#418 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 12:59 am

406 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 12:55 am

392 mzebest – ok

me too

#419 Flowerchild2 on 08.22.08 at 12:59 am

An entire ad made by the O campaign, focusing on McCains homes. Like this is some big issue. I don’t see it. An entire speech on the campaign trail by O, putting McCain down for not knowing how many. Who cares?

#420 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 12:59 am

Hi Maryland, are you still here? My daughter is in the dungeon. She is Volcanogirl2. I signed back in to let you know she isn’t a troll.

#421 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:00 am

Well I’m here. But nobody cares, sniff. :(

#422 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:00 am

408 halligan
Ah Dances
Just throw the clothes around your neck and try to get past security….
_____________________________________________
LOL!
I’m driving, which is a guaranteed invitation to overpack. PLUS, my moon is in Cancer (home, nesting, etc) which means I have to fight myself not to pack a lamp, and favorite chair, and so on.

#423 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:01 am

415 halligan

I have bag-eyes to prove it!

#424 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 1:01 am

tennasee if you put your cursor over the faces it shows you how to make them :lol: just be sure to leave a space between your post and the face ;)

#425 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:01 am

#416 goandersen,

Hey Go!!! Haven’t had a chat with you in a long time. Good to see ya. Grandkids are asleep, my back is a little better, so I thought I would have some quiet time to chat.

#426 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:01 am

Dances

Kitchen sink issues???????

#427 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 1:01 am

Snowtiger!
{{ :) }}!
Are you on the west coast?
Us nonDenver Pumas HAVE to stick together!

#428 hillstheone on 08.22.08 at 1:02 am

Happy Birthday Snowtiger!

#429 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:02 am

#407 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 12:56 am

#198 BillieJo,

—————–

I know what you mean about not knowing what will happen to all of us after Denver. We actually all have the same hopes, we just differ on what direction to go with the choices we will have.
We could all be dancing in the streets.
We could all be ready to rip the Democratic Party to shreds, or it may end up something in between.
I wish that Universal Health Care wasn’t such an important issue in our country, for my son included. If he and others didn’t need it, maybe I could stomach the Republican’s for a short time, hold my nose. But like I said many times, Hillary in charge of Universal Health and I would vote for the Devil to get her there.

#430 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:02 am

#412 DancesWithPumas

LOL!

#431 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 1:02 am

Snowtiger!
{{ :) }}!
Are you on the west coast?
Us “non”Denver Pumas HAVE to stick together!

#432 KENDALBLUE on 08.22.08 at 1:03 am

BilleJoe @@@@@ hang in there lady..so glad you are back.

#433 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:03 am

Maryland PUMA in response to Weboot

How awful! Maryland Puma, please let in Volcanogirl. She’s the best and a okay. Mama Webfoot has her under control or is it the other way around, Webfoot? :-)

#434 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:03 am

#420 snowtiger,

Howdy!!! I checked out a couple of local supermarkets today but they said they send all of their stuff to food banks. Thanks for the info. I will check some other ones that are further away next week.

#435 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:03 am

#419 webfoot

She is off to sleep.

#436 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 1:03 am

my friend travels all the time around US and Europe. She buys all her clothes (exterior ones :D ) at a thrift store. Then she leaves them behind for homeless. plenty of room for gifts and souvenirs in her suitcase that way, plus makes her (and someone else) feel good!

#437 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:04 am

:) I am in Sacramento and thank you hills. I feel loved.
I am now 29, Yet again.16 times now. :)

#438 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:04 am

425 halligan
yep!
Wanna know how I really pack? Well, i’ll tell you anyway.
I pack, then I unpack, and then I pack again…with fewer things the second time. It’s exhausting.

THEN, when I arrive… I wear the same two or three things the entire time!!

#439 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:04 am

Snowtiger

Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday dear PUMA,
Happy birthday to you.

:-) :-) :-)

#440 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 1:05 am

#433 halligan. lol.
#434 go thanks. Well, not really. Volcanogirl2 is now sobbing. She wants out of the dungeon.

#441 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:05 am

Hey Snow~ I believe I owe you a BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :mrgreen:

#442 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:05 am

#424 texassherry

Will we see you in Denver?

#443 hillstheone on 08.22.08 at 1:05 am

I’m sorry dances but this comment “just turn the knob a hard left” made me laugh!

goanderson we are going to have fun, just don’t let me have more than 2 drinks at any one time.

#444 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:06 am

439 webfoot

aaaaw. let her use your name for tonight. The gatekeeper is sleeping, tell her.

#445 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:06 am

Dances

Use to take 3 suitcase, then 2, now down to 1, but it took 30 years to learn.

#446 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:06 am

#441 goandersen ,

I wish. I would love to growl at someone but alas I am not able to.

#447 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:07 am

Evening Texas. And I don’t know what they told you but Safeway sends their salvage to California. I know, you have to buy a 40 footer sight unseen to get it here. Also check Frito Lay. we can’t buy any of their products and the people I talked to said all their products are sent to Texas to be destroyed.
Thats odd that they send it all to food banks. The companies I deal with send some to food banks and sell the rest. I shall ask around here next week and see if anybody has contacts beyond safeway.

#448 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:07 am

#442 hillstheone

That is my limit as well. We will all watch out for each other.

#449 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:08 am

Volcanogirl

You’re the best. Here’s PUMA hug for you.

#450 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:08 am

Thank you south. And yo. :)

#451 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:08 am

#445 texassherry

You can growl on here then! Keep the place hoppin!

#452 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 1:09 am

#449 halligan-aah, thanks. from volcangirl.

#453 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 1:09 am

oops, I mean vocanogirl.

#454 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:09 am

#446 snowtiger ,

I haven’t seen any Safeway here, but I will check HEB and Kroger.

#455 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 1:10 am

#387 TrishfromCanada… Thanks Trish!

All that da%mn vague stuff just drives me nuts.

My point is this: If it weren’t for some “nut cases” raising some hell… The Obamas of the world would take us all down with the patg of an “election” being a thing of the past!

Nah! Nah! Nah!

THINK ABOUT IT: PUMAS and the JustSayNoDeal coalition didn’t have a half a billion dollars, a press badge or a law degree… and the “invincibles” are going down! Sooner or later… they are going down! imho!

This is some AMAZING stuff going on!!!!

Pres: Hillary
VP: snowtiger

#456 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:10 am

Volcanogirl

Hey there! We can get you in, in the morning. Our fearless leaders have passed out from exhaustion! Bare with them.

Blog using webfoot and share the fun!

#457 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 1:10 am

Well, volcanogirl stays up later than me so I am signing off (again) for the night. Have a great night, Pumas.

#458 hillstheone on 08.22.08 at 1:10 am

Topic: GRAB BAG

Did we ever hear what was up w/Hillary meeting w/McCain yesterday? Wasn’t sure if that was certifiably true or what…

& what’s up w/Obama making this big dramatic thing over picking a VP, geeze get on with it already…

Also, there is a BIG Parade in Denver but I did not see it on our agenda of “To Do” items!! Hey I want to be part of the 18 Million Voices Parade…kazoos or whistles or whatever…

~ ~ ~ & Last but not least (sorry the long post)!

Q – If you have the info for the 18 Million Voices parade, please post it here tomorrow!

#459 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:11 am

#450 goandersen,

You bet I will LOL. I keep hearing of a protest in Ft Worth or Dallas but nobody has any info. I would try to make it to one of those if I could get the info soon enough to plan for it.

#460 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:11 am

444 halligan
I’ll be long dead in 30 years.

#461 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:11 am

#454 wontbackdown

This my friend, is a REVOLUTION.

#462 hillstheone on 08.22.08 at 1:12 am

nitenite, webfoot..

#463 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:12 am

#458 texassherry

Document if you can!

#464 KENDALBLUE on 08.22.08 at 1:12 am

goodnight everyone..sleep well.

love you all………………………………………………………………..

#465 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 1:12 am

wontbackdown

jb”jd”

#466 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:13 am

#463 KENDALBLUE

Bite the Bugs!

#467 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:13 am

& what’s up w/Obama making this big dramatic thing over picking a VP, geeze get on with it already…
_________________________________________
Seriously, it’s enough already.
He’s probably still waiting for someone who is willing.

#468 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:13 am

damn errors!!! for the 10th time!!!

DWP~ we are so much alike there!!!!!! hahaahaa!!! i am so dreading the packing!!! uggg… last winter i went to florida~ had to pay an extra 50$ for overweight suitcase!!! 2 more pounds and it would have been 75$!

i think 50 lbs is the limit on 1 bag for check in~

and sweet dreams kendalblue!!

#469 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 1:14 am

uh go “bare”??? put down the mike’s like a good PUMA :lol:

#470 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:14 am

Texas , no safeway? How about Ralphs? Same company.
#454 Wontbackdown. You are so right. I see this as a fight for democracy. And of course my future in washington. Who wants a job?

#471 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 1:14 am

snowtiger and texassherry

texassherry – i’m d/fw – is there someting i can help with re: food bank, meals on wheels or whatever it is you’re planning on fixin?
oh – and spent the last 30 years in simi valley, ca. fyi

#472 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:14 am

Who’s it gonna be? VP VP VP
Who’s it gonna be? VP VP VP
Who’s it gonna be? VP VP VP

Anyone turn their cell phone in to the O campaign?

When do you think he’ll text everyone? Any PUMA bets?

9 PM EDT

#473 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:15 am

#462 goandersen ,

What do you want me to document?

#474 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:16 am

#413 yellowMcpuma08

Sorry it took me so long..
Excellent. So how are you feeling about the convention?

#475 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:16 am

#469 snowtiger ,

Never heard of it.

#476 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:16 am

#472 texassherry
lol
any protest in Texas. You know pics.

#477 KENDALBLUE on 08.22.08 at 1:17 am

JerseyPuma @@@ goodnight sweetie. sweet dreams

#478 LaureyPuma on 08.22.08 at 1:17 am

Welcome Normapapuma! Thank you for posting that information from Geraldine Ferraro’s interview. I needed that!

Welcome DeterminedinNM! I understand how you felt when you met Hillary. I saw her in NV and felt the same way – although you articulated it better than I. I just pray she will have the chance to realize her goal.

Maryland Puma, I thought you were using yellow for emphasis!

#479 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 1:17 am

Halligan . .he won’t want the Olympics to “cloud” his announcement . . After closing ceremonies?

#480 hillstheone on 08.22.08 at 1:17 am

“He’s probably still waiting for someone who is willing,” Dances you still make me laugh!

texassherry, rancho & all,
I need to log off & get ready for work tomorrow & do someother “gotta do it” stuff. ~ nite-nite ~

((( Big PUMA hugs to everyone! )))

#481 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 1:18 am

Volcanogirl here using webfoot since I’m stuck in the dungeon:(

#482 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:18 am

#468 Taffy

LOL!

“Puma, put down the Mike’s and step away from the bare”

#483 KENDALBLUE on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

goandersen @@@ sure will !! nite nite……

#484 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

#478 Rancho

Has he been paying any attention to the Olympics? He probably thinks he’s the only thing going on in the world. He didn’t know much about Georgia (overseas).

#485 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

#480 webfoot

That’s okay Volcanogirl, just stay away from the pods!

#486 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

471 halligan

oh, i am so sorry i don’t have a throw away cell phone

#487 LaureyPuma on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

JBJD, I forgot to add that I would be proud to wear your initials in Denver.

#488 Rancho on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

Nite Hills . . me too ;) Nite Pumas !

Safe trip Dances!

#489 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:19 am

#470 Blue Blue Gal ,

LOL. We were discussing from an earlier blog. Sorry to confuse anyone. We both sell at flea mkts and I was wanting to change to selling salvage food items to help people in need. Snowtiger is already doing it and was giving me some info. to see if I could do the same thing here.

#490 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:20 am

481~ Go, I am ready for my last call~ hic*up….

#491 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:20 am

Night Kendal
Night Webfoot Mama

#492 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:20 am

479 hillstheone

Night!

#493 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:21 am

Odd, Texas I will check for oyu,
Blueblue, we were talking business abn really should do it privately. :)
Texas, in case you didn’t write it down,
Snowtiger007pp@yahoo.com :)

#494 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:21 am

Go, help South, quick
#489

#495 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:21 am

#489 SouthJerseyPUMA

auuuught!

#496 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 1:21 am

#390 BillieJo~~~ Yep. And you stay put.

#497 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:21 am

Night Hills, Rancho :)

#498 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:21 am

Night Hills neighbor.

#499 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:22 am

#493 halligan

LMAO!

We both fell off the stool!

#500 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 1:22 am

take me out to the ballgame, take me out with the crowd…… :lol:

#501 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:22 am

#475 goandersen,

Oh!! Definitely. If I can ever find out anything. I have went to the Texas site and also southwest pumas but all I hear is that there is supposed to be one but nobody knows the location. I will try to contact Will and see if he knows anything.

#502 MountainSong on 08.22.08 at 1:23 am

459 DancesWithPumas~~~ In 30 years I’ll still only be 95. And still goin out to the clubs to dance.

#503 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:23 am

and my meds are finally working!! btw, should I be mixin??? hahahahahahaha!!!! whoooo hoooo!! DENVEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahaha!!!

#504 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:24 am

#479 hillstheone ,

Good night. Sweet dreams.

#505 webfoot on 08.22.08 at 1:24 am

484 goanderson
I will. :) I’m heading to bed too. I just wanted to thank everyone for welcoming me. Night!

#506 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:25 am

Thanks Rancho!

Camera is packed.

#507 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 1:25 am

jersey you ain’t even here and you’re already a ,ile high :lol:

#508 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:25 am

#502 SouthJerseyPUMA

Oh, probably not… LOL!

#509 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:25 am

I just took a quiz and found out I am a vampire.
How cool.

#510 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 1:25 am

474 texassherry & 492 snowtiger

you are both wonderful for your activity,

didn’t mean to interfere, – carry on mates……..

#511 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:25 am

Taffy~ just take me out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! does anyone see pink PUMAS???? bwahahahahahaa!!!

#512 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:26 am

#504 webfoot

Good Night Volcanogirl! Bite the Bugs!

#513 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:26 am

Gnight webfoot

#514 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 1:26 am

good night pumas and welcome volcano girl………

#515 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 1:26 am

jbjd… Woops… Sorry… I meant that the rest of us are not jd’s.

You did some amazing work for this group!

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GEEEEZZZE! I need some Dramamine! This blog is lightening fast tonight!

So… if I have a) missed some really big news… or b) offended anyone 100 posts back…

a) Really? Wow!

b) Sorry.

#516 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:26 am

#510 SouthJerseyPUMA

Bwhaahahahahahahahaha!

#517 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 1:26 am

laurey, please, make sure you use small letters. please. there is another person who posts on another blog, who uses the name Judah Benjamin (“JB”). please, I am jbjd. and I am a girl.

#518 Seattlegirl on 08.22.08 at 1:27 am

Just finished scanning the comments. My thoughts on the birth certificate are I am sure the Republicans will be all over the story but not until BO actually wins the nomination as they are afraid of running against Hillary.

But another birth certificate issue is his real name. I think Americans would have no problem voting for a qualified candidate with a middle eastern name like Barack Hussien Obama if that was his given name. But as I understand it it is a name he chose to rename himself. If that is the case it will not go over well with many Americans. Just that fact that it was his choice and not that of his parents. It just seems far too radical a choice for an American boy.

#519 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:27 am

463 KENDALBLUE on 08.22.08 at 1:12 am

goodnight everyone..sleep well.

love you all…………………

Good night Kendalblue, sweet dreams and thanks.

#520 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:27 am

#513 tennaseepuma
Night!

#521 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:28 am

Night Volcanogirl. Come back again soon.

#522 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:28 am

shhhh taffy! {ok, who told you?} :cool:

#523 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:28 am

#509 Blue Blue Gal ,

No problem. I should have emailed him since it wasn’t puma related. Sorry about that.

#524 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 1:29 am

500 texassherry
i get emails from southwest pumas – will post them here for all to see upon receipt of next one – hope that helps

#525 Taffy on 08.22.08 at 1:29 am

looking to see :roll: nope can’t tell

#526 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:29 am

#518 BillieJo

Did I say WELCOME BACK?!

#527 halligan on 08.22.08 at 1:30 am

If you know what a halligan is, you’ll understand this.

Goodnight my PUMA friend. I’ve created enough “blunt force truma” for one night.

Keep safe in your travels, PUMAs. And Dances, don’t take the kitchen sink, just the bathroom sink.

#528 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:30 am

ur ResultYour Result

Full Blood Vampire You were born a vampire meaning no bite marks for you. Some say you are the direct descendent of a demon from hell, while others say you are descended from Vlad Tempish, also known as Dracula. Your skills are more powerful than a regular vampire’s, the difference being impossible for humans to comprehend. It is said you can even call shadows to help you. You also have age control, meaning you may be 10,000 years old but can look 10 or 100 depending on what you like
See, and you wonder why we are winning? Face it, Carpathia stands no chance against a vampire PUMA. :)
ON to Denver!!!
Pumas prepare for Glory!!!

#529 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:30 am

Good night to Pumas going to bed and Welcome New Pumas.

#530 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:30 am

Don’t know if this information was posted earlier so forgive me if this is old news… I haven’t had time to read through all of today’s blogs… but has anyone seen this:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/21/mccains_denver_headquarters_ev.html?hpid=topnews

#531 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:30 am

Dances, besides a white candle, do we need to remember anything else special?

Glad we got to watch you pack. What are you and Murph doing for the next two days? Let us know what the cages are like for the PUMAs. Dang, I wanted to be by the front door so I could hug Hillary and the Big Dog.

#532 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 1:31 am

Taffy, thanks for the info, i have a mac so every time i try what you said it doesnt work,does any one here know how to make faces with a mac?

#533 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:32 am

#525 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:29 am

#518 BillieJo

Did I say WELCOME BACK?!
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Thank you Go…feels so good to be home and not alone.

#534 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:32 am

#523 Blue Blue Gal,

I got them for awhile but haven’t gotten them for some time now. If you hear anything about a protest for Ft Worth or Dallas during the convention please Post it. I would surely appreciate it. Thank you.

#535 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:33 am

Okay! I’m packed!!!
Who’s going to come help me lift my suitcase??

#536 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:34 am

#529 mzebest

I haven’t heard what the powder was, but did hear no one was ill.

#537 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 1:35 am

texassherry

sure thing

#538 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:35 am

tennasee

try this no spaces though

: lol : or here this may help

http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies

#539 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:35 am

BillieJo…
I’m leaving at 2am so I can get through the desert without melting. I won’t arrive until Saturday.

#540 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:35 am

#531 tennaseepuma
I have a Mac. It works the same way, just leave the spaces out.

#541 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 1:36 am

As for the next step if Obama does get the Nom….

First, let’s STAY TOGETHER. We don’t have to decide anything immediately.

Second, what about starting “Obama, abdicate for Hillary!” That’s something we can all agree on. As time goes on and the polls get worse and he sees that even Hillary can’t save him, his best move will be to announce they’ve decided to switch places and have Clinton/Obama.

That’s something Pelosi and Dean can’t spoil: if their own Precious orders it himself!

And really if the polls are bad enough for him, it would be his best move. Otherwise he becomes the McGovern of 2008 and may never get another chance.

#542 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:36 am

DWP~ what? no wheels?????????

uggggg….

#543 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:36 am

#534 Dances. You can count on me to help. I’m always willing to lend a hand.
I will find someone to lift that thing. (I’m there for you)

#544 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:37 am

#526 halligan

Sweet Dreamin!

#545 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:37 am

BillieJo
google map the convention center and click on live cam or street view or something…. birds eye view of stuff. You might even see murphy traipsing in.
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snowtiger…paisan… gracie!

#546 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 08.22.08 at 1:37 am

Obama walks on water:

http://mklasing.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/obama-on-water.jpg

#547 pooh496 on 08.22.08 at 1:38 am

Have a great night everyone. It’s gonna be a wild ride this next week. I can just feel the electricity in the air. The fur on my back is standing straight up. Lol!

#548 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:38 am

#541 SouthJerseyPUMA

It’s probably one of those really old ones. lololol

#549 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:38 am

#540 Turndown, Excellent ideas. Do you think we can make it sink into their heads?

#550 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:39 am

What’s the scoop with Paul, is he ok here now? I wonder if he ever answered my questions?

#551 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:39 am

sjp
yeah it has wheels but I have to get it off my bed first LOL

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snowtiger… i really did get that joke. cute

#552 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:39 am

#545 notfollowinthepiedpiper

That’s a puddle! lol

#553 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:39 am

#546 pooh496
Good night Pooh, sweet dreams.

#554 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:40 am

535 goandersen

I think they tested the powder and it turned out to be a non-toxic substance but wouldn’t identify it in any of the articles beyond saying that.

I think they don’t like to reveal too many details until they catch the person responsible… but I find it odd that this sort of thing is surfacing with BO needing attention and on the scene in a big way (not to mention his less than honorable associations).

#555 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:41 am

Dances~ dont drive any faster than the gardian puma angels can fly~ most of all, be safe! and when you feel tired, dont hesitate to pull over!!!

*again for the tenth time!!!!!!!!!!!

#556 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am

Rove on Greta now

#557 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am

549 BillieJo

I would be very cautious about how much information you entrust to PaulH… and don’t expect any straight answers

#558 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am

#550 Dances, I am sure you did but, I am having the hardest time posting.

#559 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am

#553 mzebest

chicago thug activity. so yesterday..

#560 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am

:lol:

#561 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 1:43 am

Guess I’d better hit the sack.

Thanks for all of the continued excitement!!!

Everyone be really, really safe in your travels tomorrow!

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I heard that Obama whispered to one of his supporters to send some powder to the next president of the United States…

#562 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:43 am

Not to mention being slightly buzzed from to much Pale ale at dinner. :)

#563 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:43 am

#556 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am
549 BillieJo

I would be very cautious about how much information you entrust to PaulH… and don’t expect any straight answers

or bent ones either.

#564 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:43 am

gnight womtbackdown

#565 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:43 am

#544 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:37 am

I will wait until tomorrow and keep an eye on you two…wave to us Dances.

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Any more news on the total of the 300 petition? Are they starting to really step up yet?

#566 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:44 am

#560 wontbackdown

Good Night, sleep well!

#567 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:44 am

texas~ and Rove is doggin obozo!! hehe… i am lovin it!!!

i am also havina hard time posting!!! grrrrrrrr..

#568 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 1:44 am

night wontbackdown ! Cover that E !!!! :)

#569 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:45 am

558 goandersen

LOL! I know… but in addition to that… BO is all about drama. He loves drama… and if there is no drama… he has to create it. Can you imagine 4 years or more of his need for constant drama?

#570 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:45 am

#556 mzebest ,

I agree with you. I have been lurking the last couple of days and reading his posts. He talks like he is pushing for Obama at one point and then talks like he’s against Obama. He is either confused on what he wants to happen and who is supports or he is just trying to confuse the Pumas so that they get off track. This is my opinion.

#571 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 1:45 am

Well I’ll be darn….Thanks go and south.

#572 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:45 am

562 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:43 am

#556 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:42 am
Is he really working for Hillcats or Obama?

Strange to be talking about if a Democrat can be trusted or not. Our world is upside down.

#573 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:46 am

#562 goandersen

LOL

#574 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:46 am

nite nite wontbackdown~

#575 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:46 am

#568 mzebest

Oh, bring in the Queens!!
MO can head that one up! LOL! In her Pink Suit!

#576 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:46 am

#562 Go, I am with you on that. PH may be just who he says he is. Either way never hurts to be cautious.

#577 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:47 am

#568 mzebest

not to mention more wars…..

#578 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:47 am

571 BillieJo

I’ll simply say this… I’ve read every post since he first made an appearance… and if you read his words from the premise of a BO supporter… then he makes sense… but if you read his words from the premise of a PUMA … he makes no sense… that’s all I’ll say.

#579 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:48 am

#575 snowtiger

To be dealt with on another day.. Shhhhhhhh…
Have a Mike’s

#580 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:49 am

574 goandersen

Did you by chance see Hannity tonight? He really nailed BO and used a lot of information that made me think Hannity is checking out the links from our blog on a regular basis.

#581 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:49 am

I iwll tell oyu what bothers me about PH. Twice he said he was personally attacked. Once by me. Never happened.
And we have snapped at each other over this.
A puma pact. No more at each overover this. Got a disagreement, take it off the board.
Can I hear an Amen?

#582 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:50 am

oops
Please remove my last post.

#583 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 1:50 am

#574 goandersen… #560

“I heard that Obama whispered to one of his supporters to send some “powder” to the next president of the United States…”

…get it?

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TexasTigress… LOL! Gets me everytime!

#584 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:50 am

#571 BillieJo

Cautious times. We will recognize our comrades. They look like STJ

#585 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:51 am

#577 mzebest ,

This is true. LOL I have never read a post from a BO supporter that made any sense.

#586 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 1:51 am

#572 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:46 am

#562 goandersen – LOL

nope, won’t say it –

but will wish everyone a good night’s sleep and puma dreams

#587 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:51 am

#582 wontbackdown

Yes, I did. geesch. I am not that looped! lol

#588 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 1:51 am

I’m stickin with the Captain Kirk image ! It makes me happy – or is that the Mikes ?? ‘Nother round , goandersen !!!!

#589 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:52 am

#580 snowtiger,

Amen LOL

#590 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:52 am

578~ lol go~ give snow 2 to keep busy! lol…. opp’s hey my elbow just slipped off the desk~ andalmost fell off my chair! lol… heheheheheheee…

#591 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:52 am

#587 TexasTigress

Line em up BilliJo!

#592 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 1:52 am

#548 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:38 am
#540 Turndown, Excellent ideas. Do you think we can make it sink into their heads?
============
Might a better slogan. ‘Abdicate’ is kind of a big word.

Any ideas?

#593 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:53 am

#589 SouthJerseyPUMA

Be careful.

#594 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 1:54 am

580 snowtiger

Everytime I’ve seen PH come onto the blog… he causes a huge distraction… does that explain my position? I think I’m a good judge of character and I could be wrong… but there are a lot of red flags to me. Just sit back — and lurk — and read his posts and the way he interacts with everyone here and I think you’ll see what I see.

#595 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:54 am

#569 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 1:45 am

#556 mzebest ,

I agree with you. I have been lurking the last couple of days and reading his posts. He talks like he is pushing for Obama at one point and then talks like he’s against Obama. He is either confused on what he wants to happen and who is supports or he is just trying to confuse the Pumas so that they get off track. This is my opinion.

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Actually, I see more of that were I work then anything else. The female professors that voted for Hillary don’t think she has a chance in Denver and don’t want to hear anything bad about Obama because they can’t face voting for McCain. I sent them the blog radio link on the voter fraud and the delegates that were on and they keep making excused as to why they didn’t have time to listen. They are afraid to hear something bad about him now…they also are really into multicultural education in the graduate school, urban education and supporting minorities and I think since that is their focus in education they feel like they would be betraying their students. They are closet Hillary supporters and want the low-down on our trip to Denver, and even promised to help bail me out if necessary. Cute, they said they are proud of me but they won’t step up.
It is a strange world right now where I work and without all of you I would be wondering the streets. :roll:

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I flippin’ pray for the day we don’t have to refresh 6 times to post.

#596 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:54 am

SNOW YOU ARE FLAGGED as of that last post! GOANDERSEN, take the aide away!! lmao!!

#597 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:55 am

#579 mzebest

You know, I didn’t. I live out here on the West Coast and I hear everyone talking about this stuff, and it hasn’t happened out here yet.
I bet he does as well. I wonder if he has a screen name?

#598 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 1:55 am

#589 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:52 am

578~ lol go~ give snow 2 to keep busy! lol…. opp’s hey my elbow just slipped off the desk~ andalmost fell off my chair! lol… heheheheheheee…
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:lol:

#599 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:55 am

Two it is. Where are the chips?

#600 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:56 am

#595 SouthJerseyPUMA

LOL!

NO MORE MIKE’S FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU!

#601 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 1:56 am

turndownobama
Great , you have a bunch of Texans drinkin and you want us to make signs for Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean ???!!! This should be interesting …. :)

#602 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 1:57 am

It is funny. Everyone that takes it off the board and asks me a direct question, I run around the office and research for them. Up to and including the yellow flowers that you accused one of your own as not sending. She grilled me about what color they were and when they were received, etc. I am sure as you “vet” people of which you are all qualified to do, I am sure, you will find people get disgusted with your indiscriminate attacks. I used to take things from this blog into my meetings to basically say “look everyone still loves you” dont look at what comes across on the fax look at these blogs. Yes, Barack doesnt like them, but these people have points. Now I see nothing but, smears and attacks, likened to what Barack would do. Of no one else but MY name. I wish half of you could say you have done what I have for the Senator, and what I will continue to do. But, I will find a reputable group to do it from. Who does not have to attack individual members to determine if they “feel” as though they are good enough to talk to. I will simply print out your blog, not highlite the things that I think are great, and forward it over without comment. I hope you all enjoy the “quarters” they have set up for you in Denver and actually get your voices heard as you chase your “tails”. I will no longer be contributing to a group that chooses to attack individuals at whim without just cause or without reason, solely because they do the very same thing you do, and that is question!

#603 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 1:57 am

mishun ‘ccomplushed (my best gwb accent)
I am now officially overpacked!
Just have to pack my laptop. Will do that when I get up in two and hours.
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sjp
thank you! I will.
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billie jo… yes, ma’am!

#604 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 1:58 am

Hehehe Too late south. I chugged ‘em. And I will take your advice mzebest. ;)

#605 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 1:59 am

#585 Blue Blue Gal

Night BBG

#606 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 1:59 am

hahahahaahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am busting up!!!

rofl or whatever it is~ lrof!!!!!!!!! who cares???!! awww, Go~ just one more?

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee???? :lol:

#607 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 1:59 am

Geeze , Paul .. Someone get Paul a drink .

#608 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:00 am

#601 PaulHillary ,

Bye

#609 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 2:00 am

Paul…
take it with a grain… no, salt lick.
Everyone is whacky… it’s been a long hard struggle…
people are tired..exhausted.

Just relax.

#610 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:01 am

snow is a chugger! chuga chuga choo choo snow~~~

#611 DancesWithPumas on 08.22.08 at 2:02 am

I forgot to say goodnight.
Next time I’ll be bloggin’ from Denver!
Don’t worry… you’ll all be there with us.
Goodnight.

#612 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:03 am

No, I spent 5 nights in here making sure that every last thing I had to do before Denver was done right. I spend every waking hour working on behalf of Senator Clinton in a state that I despise. I spent the last 18 months traveling around this country of ours pressuring people about the fact that this woman is truly fuckin amazing. While I am sure some of you worked in 1 or 2 states or more. I didnt miss a single one. Now, when I volunteered to answer a few questions, its a question as to my validity. To be honest with everyone here, I could care-a-less. I have attempted to explain and give realistic answers to questions, and because y’all do not like the answers for whatever reason you go off half cocked at me. Get a grip. It’s called REALITY. Barack chooses not to live in it and I am learning that some of HRC’s devout supporters dont as well!

#613 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:03 am

#601 PaulHillary

Clearly you are upset with some of the comments made today.
It is late and this is our play time. Please just leave things lie for this night.
Thank you

#614 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:03 am

#610 DancesWithPumas

Drive safely! See you there!

#615 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 2:04 am

GOodnight dances be careful . Can’t wait to start hearing from denver.
Chug achug :)

#616 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:04 am

#601 PaulHillary ,

We are way ahead of you. We have asked all the same questions that you ask a long time ago. We have done extensive research and we have already reached our decision. NOBAMA

#617 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:06 am

If the discourse continues on this blog I suggest that everyone leave and go to bed.

#618 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:08 am

Carry on “behind my back” I will leave willingly. I have been taught enough about your group!

Best Regards

#619 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 2:08 am

Great , getting sent to bed with my light saber all lit up and my depends around my ears !

#620 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:09 am

I’m sorry you feel that way Paul. I can understand it is hard to be somewhere you are not trusted. I don’t know what else to say. We all love Hillary, that is a fact. We are all angry at the media, the people that undermine her and therefore we have lost faith in our own party and everything it stands for.
This is one thing to take away if nothing else, how would you feel if everything you held dear and believed in all your life was a pile of dung when you look deeper. When you look at the voting in the caucus states and see that votes were stolen from seniors, and people that didn’t know what we have seen by the Obama supporters. When as women (and 40%) men have no voice, have no vote but are just expected to give in to greed, be quite and give away our votes.
We have no one but Hillary that understands how we feel. You are lucky somewhat, the choice for you to support Obama isn’t that ugly. Have you seen some of the blogradio show? The research on the voter fraud? If you have, you should understand how upset we feel. We are not so upset at you, just that some think you are trying to make us forget what we know.
Stand up for Hillary and talk to us if you want to, don’t just go away and think we are all bitter.

#621 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 2:09 am

Texas Rofl.

#622 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 2:09 am

#600 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 1:56 am
turndownobama
Great , you have a bunch of Texans drinkin and you want us to make signs for Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean ???!!! This should be interesting ….

Huh, who, me? I want “Abdicate to Hillary!” if BO gets the nom. Precious should announce that he and Hillary have decided to switch places and no one can say no because he is the Messiah and what he says goes, nya nya.

#623 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:09 am

wow~ blew my high….. or buzz…..

ewwww…. my state is all blue! yuck!! [on fox]

#624 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am

#618 TexasTigress

LMAO!

#625 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am

#612 goandersen ,

You are nicer than me. I honestly don’t care what is happening at the Hillary or Obama camp. All I care about is the results from the convention. I will not take a gamble on Obama in case something happens and Hillary will come out ahead.

#626 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am

#594 BillieJo

I know what you mean about friends and coworkers… I’m working on a few to educate as well… and the resistance is hard to break through even though they really want Hillary. I think I’m making progress on my neighbor though… but it wasn’t easy.

#596 goandersen

Hannity really did a great job exposing BO. He talked about the ads released today. BO’s ad on the houses and McCain’s ad on Rezko and Ayers. He had pundits representing the republican position and a guy representing Obama camp — I think the guy’s name was Michael Brown. When they showed the video on McCain’s houses… they asked Michael if he thought the ad was effective?

Michael said, I think it’s very effective and shows how out of touch McCain is with the American people

(typical Obama narrative points).

Then they show the McCain ad about Rezko and Ayers and ask Michael what he thought of McCain’s ad effectiveness?

Michael says, “I think this is just a distraction away from the real issues that voters want to know about.”

That’s when everyone else on the panel nailed this guy.

Hannity says, “I got one question for you — do you really think the voters will care about how many houses McCain has — or will they care more about how many houses Obama’s associates have blown up?”

#627 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am

Oh sh** I am only 38 and don’t wear depends !!! Whose damn diaper is on my head !!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH

#628 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am

618 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 2:08 am

Great , getting sent to bed with my light saber all lit up and my depends around my ears !
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Good night, you are so funny with your depends.

#629 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 2:13 am

and the prowling miniature pumas said to me: we’ve been asleep all night while you were blogging – now it’s our play time !!!!!! so, i’m back……………

and i agree with goandersen -

#630 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 2:13 am

#586 goandersen… Ok. Ok.

Goodnight! For Real.

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“I flippin’ pray for the day we don’t have to refresh 6 times to post.”

Hold the “SUBMIT” button down for a few seconds longer – it seems to help.

Also, clear your browsing history from the “Tools/Internet Options” menu.

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#601 PaulHillary… We’ve been through hell and back, too. You are relatively new here… and the ups and downs on who to trust have taken their toll.

You may be sincere on trying to get us a little closer to Hillary’s camp… but we’ve all been hanging out exposed for two months. We understand Hillary’s in a hell of a position and cannot come out and support us… but sometimes it just gets a little too much wondering if she IS ALL PARTY – or really fighting behind the scenes for “the people”.

Regardless… We are not now… and WILL NEVER BE Obama Supporters. Third, is not an option for most of us.

Know what I mean?

P.S. You are sounding a little too much like the Obama camp, right now. Shoving something down our throats, won’t work now anymore than it did on May 31.

Goodnight.

#631 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:13 am

#622 SouthJerseyPUMA

Mine is blue as well.

#632 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:13 am

goanderson you are so wize my dear. I am reading and i try to respect what each has to say. Yes we are all tired and it has been a ruff few months.Denver is getting close we have gone a long way together.Days that seemed never to end and on into the night but we kept going and i still don’t have my strength back but it’s coming and just in time for Denver.

#633 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:14 am

#629 wontbackdown

Good night again! Sleep well.

#634 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:15 am

#610 DancesWithPumas

Drive safely! See you there!
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Yes Dances, take lots of driving breaks and be safe. Say hi to Murphy for us.

#635 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:15 am

The trouble is that I do not want to vote for him either in any way shape or form. I attempt, however, to make sure that everyone keeps their facts straight. I said on my very first posting ever on this blog, I will ALWAYS answer questions honestly. I attempt to get real answers from the people within MY office. If I cannot get an answer or the answer seems Vague, I just dont answer the question or tell you I cannot find out. I will not lead someone astray.. It is not easy being in this position because minute by minute things change and you have to remember that. I say what we hear…As you are all probably aware advance would schedule an event tell the offices that you worked in to build for it…and the event venue would change….That is still the case now. Everyone is kinda like a miss guided ship around the office. I dont like it as much as you do. I started with Hillary the first day she opened a senate campaign office in New York. I have worked/volunteered for her everday since then. Please dont ever, ever, question my loyalty. It is to one person, and one person only, Hillary Rodham Clinton. No one else but her.

#636 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:15 am

#616 goandersen,

I got your message. Okay. I will shut up.

Back to lurk mode. Good night ya’ll.

#637 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 2:16 am

Night sherry – sleep well .

#638 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:16 am

PAULHILLARY~ blame it on the trolls who come in here.. makes everyone’s hair stand up and claws wanting to come out~ including what else has been said above…. get some sleep…

#639 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 2:17 am

Goodnight texas =hugs=

#640 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:17 am

Well i know for me it is nobame ever even if my gal was VP but i have the faith that things will turn and Hillary will get the nod because being positive is the only way.

#641 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:17 am

#624 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am
#612 goandersen ,

“You are nicer than me.”

I care what is happening to Our Democracy. I care what is happening to this country.

So when I say: ” If the discourse continues on this blog I suggest that everyone leave and go to bed.”

I know ya’ll know what I am talking about ;)

LOL! I wouldn’t place any bets on that one!

#642 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 2:18 am

Paul, my email is 1950democrat/at/gmail/com. Pls email me. This is a busy place and we are all stressed out right now. I can talk to you by email or refer you to some sites that have more room for leisurely discussion of many viewpoints.

#643 Blue Blue Gal on 08.22.08 at 2:18 am

puma snore…………………..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

#644 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:18 am

Hannity also says to Michael, “How come Obama who makes over $4 million a year can’t send money to his brother who is living on one dollar a month? Provide me with his brother’s address and I’ll send the man a couple hundred dollars since obviously charity for the Obama’s doesn’t start at home.” Michael tried to say, “Hannity — you’re just trying to add more distractions based on rumors.” But Hannity was more credible than Michael when the interview ended.

#645 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:19 am

#624 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:10 am
#612 goandersen ,

“You are nicer than me.”
LOL! I wouldn’t place any bets on that one!

I care what is happening to Our Democracy. I care what is happening to this country.

So when I say: ” If the discourse continues on this blog I suggest that everyone leave and go to bed.”

I know ya’ll know what I am talking about

#646 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:19 am

She will do what she has to do. I promise you that as a “girl” which always pissed me off….anyway where was I…Ahhh yes, as a girl from Washington how was she going to be a senator in New York? I couldn’t believe people would refer to her like that. I am so happy that I trusted her….She is an amazing individual and even helped me bury my mother….I was in denial…but she helped!

#647 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:19 am

mzebest

Hannity says, “I got one question for you — do you really think the voters will care about how many houses McCain has — or will they care more about how many houses Obama’s associates have blown up?”
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that was awesome!!! GO HANNITY!!!!!!

#648 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:20 am

#643 mzebest

I wished I had seen that one. dang it.

#649 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:21 am

#642 Blue Blue Gal

you are drooling…

#650 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 2:23 am

#634 PaulHillary… I believe you.

I cannot imagine what Hillary’s staff has gone through, either.

It sounds like you want to help, be supportive and revealing of as much as you know. You said it, however, this whole thing is a moving train and none of us really know what anything means.

Get some rest, Paul… you have a big week ahead. We all do.

#651 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 2:23 am

Paul , if you only knew how many times I have had my head bitten off in here … I have been sent to the corner for whole nights ! Never for supporting XO , just for my (sometimes poor ) sense of humor .. I keep coming back though , because I know in my heart , everyone here is working for the same goal – NOBAMA . It’s a good place filled with even better people . We are all different , some serious , some funny , some who wouldn’t know a freakin joke if it sat on their damn head , and some who make me laugh so hard I pee a little bit :) it takes time to learn personalities , but , at the end of the day , we are a big family . Some of us have been injured during this process so we have become a bit defensive and protective . If you are the real deal , just stick it out and people will see that , eventually ….

#652 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 2:23 am

Paul,
Another site that at least has more time is clintondems.com
It is set up ‘diary’ style.
Another is hillaryclintonforum.net

If you go to one of these pls let me know where to meet you.

#653 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:24 am

I just cant wait until we get to Denver and then get this over with. I want the committee formed to correct the caucuses of which some of you guys should push Will or Murphy to get on that committee, convo for future date, and you all can see how the delegates force this issue. I will be handing out Hillary signs and making sure that we have support for the delegates that matter on the floor….OURS. I will be all Hillary’d out if they let me. I am not sure how that will go over though!

#654 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:24 am

wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 2:13 am

Also, clear your browsing history from the “Tools/Internet Options” menu.

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It’s been a long time since I’ve done that, where in tools, on the browser? I cleared out the history on the sidebar for all the days, is that enough or isn’t it somewhere inside the OS?

#655 snowtiger on 08.22.08 at 2:25 am

Well fellow kittykats, I must go to bed. Have an early day as usual. You don’t own your business, it owns you. Lol.
Thanks for the drinks the wishes and just for being yourselves. :)
Everyone going to Denver be careful.
We will win. One way or another.
PUMAS prepare for glory.

#656 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:25 am

#647 goandersen

Yeah it was an awesome show… I tried to describe a lot of it for you at post 625 above… one of the pundits for the republican side also attacked the Michael guy and said, “Do you think that the people at McCain headquarters and government offices who had to go home early due to death threats will think that Obama’s associates are just a distraction?”

#657 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:25 am

I already print those out for our morning meetings!!!!Who do you blog on there as?

#658 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:25 am

We all love Hillary here and that is why we fight so hard but goandersen is right we also want a true Democracy. This country is in big trouble and as far as i and the others feel Hillary is the one to fix it.

#659 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:27 am

I love to circle things and say…this has to go to Uma to give to her directly….Sometimes I have to cut out what blog its on…Because some will not be read….but anyway….I love doing that because she sees awesome stuff!

#660 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:28 am

open internet explorer and go to tools at the top of tool bar [file, view, etc...] click and go to internet options

clear away~

#661 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:28 am

#654 snowtiger

good night and happy B.day! for the 2000th time!

#662 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:29 am

#655 mzebest

WoW! If you can get the link to that tomorrow, I would really like to see it.

#663 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 2:30 am

Night sweet Pumas ! You West coasters have about 6 hours to save the world ! I will check back in the morning to see how much progress you’ve made !!!

#664 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:31 am

gn TexasTigress sweet dreams

#665 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:31 am

they just said on fox that they will hand out hillary signs to those who request them, speaking of delegates

#666 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:32 am

I’ll check to see if they post it on Fox or YouTube… I better say good night… need to get up for work early tomorrow. Thank goodness it’s Friday and I can sleep in late after tomorrow.

#667 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:33 am

goodnite Snow~ big puma b-day hugs!!!

#668 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:34 am

#662 TexasTigress

Night now.

#669 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:35 am

#665 mzebest

I would appreciate that. Good night. Visualize HRC taking the nomination!

#670 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:35 am

Good Night snow and Happy Puma Birthday to you and sweet dreams

#671 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:36 am

Okay Paul, I believe you love Hillary too.
Is any Democrat not stressed to the max at this point? If we thought George Bush was going to make this an easy win, and many of us thought at the beginning that we had the two perfect candidates to pick from, what a long, strange trip it’s been.
Does Hillary think enough of her delegates and superdelegates will vote for her to win, or has she gotten the vibes that she has no chance to win?
Does she hate the PUMA movement?
Does she know we love her? She is my JFK.

#672 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:36 am

Before I go… one more link… you gotta love it. LMAO

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080822/pl_politico/12704

#673 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:36 am

nite snow~ bday hugs!!

what is up with white powder at mc’s office? hmmmm.. i smell a bot!

#674 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:38 am

Good Night snow and Happy Puma Birthday to you and sweet dreams

Yes Snow, Happy Birthday and sleep well.

#675 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:38 am

gosh i said nite to snow 2 x’s!! lol..

mzebest, goodnite!

#676 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:38 am

672 SouthJerseyPUMA

“what is up with white powder at mc’s office? hmmmm.. i smell a bot!”

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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/22/mccain-crist-powder-threat/

#677 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:39 am

#671 mzebest
I love it! lol

#678 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:40 am

wow!! you are fast mzebest!! hence the name!! lol..

#679 PaulHillary on 08.22.08 at 2:40 am

I told you I would always be honest….She has been known to say in her “tone” that you guys are a bit radical. I choose to over look that! She is not allowed to vocalize anything about her delegates (orders from the powers that be, within her own campaign) in an open forum anymore. We are all believing what we want to. Except for jeremy ughhh he is so hard to sit next to. Reading the party line off that paper all day. I could just smack him, and now he is the ONLY one people are allowed to talk to…for risk that we might have an opinion…HA

#680 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 2:41 am

677 SouthJerseyPUMA

LOL… I always tell every one they don’t call me zebest for nothing :-D

#681 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:44 am

My Puma Prayer,
Dear Lord, I thank You for this day, I thank You for my being able to see and to hear this morning.
I’m blessed because You are a forgiving God and an understanding God. You have done so much for me and You keep on blessing me. Forgive me this day for everything I have done, said or thought that was not pleasing to you.

I ask now for Your forgiveness. Please keep me and my Puma family safe from all danger and harm. Help us to start this day with a new attitude and plenty of gratitude. Let us make the best of each and every day to clear our minds so that we can better hear from You.
Please broaden our minds that we can accept all things. Let us not whine and whimper over things we have no control over.

And give us the best response when we are pushed beyond our limits.

I know that when we can’t pray,
You listen to our hearts. Continue to use us to do Your will. Continue to bless us that we may be a blessing to others. Keep us strong that we may help the weak… Keep us uplifted that we may have words of encouragement for others.
I pray for those that are lost and can’t find their way. I pray for those that are misjudged and misunderstood. I pray for those who don’t know You intimately. I pray for those that don’t believe.

But I thank You that I believe that God changes people and God changes things. I pray for all my sisters and brothers. For each and every family member in their households. I pray for peace, love and joy in their homes; that they are out of debt and all their needs are met.
I pray that every eye that reads this knows there is no problem, circumstance, or situation greater than God.
Every battle is in Your hands for You to fight.
I pray that these words be received into the hearts of every eye that sees it in Jesus’ name.

#682 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:45 am

She can’t talk to you, she can’t talk to us. Geeze, how did democracy become such a crazy game?
No one knows what will happen. Talk about frickin’ drama. This election is like a blockbuster movie where we don’t know if the hero will save the day or be killed off like in French movies.

#683 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:45 am

I am loving this show on fox now~ with the panel~ tearing up obozo! whoooohoooo!!

#684 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:46 am

….and as each puma saunders off to their den, each one intent on fighting the good fight and saving America for our children, the eyes of the world are watching as we fall peacefully to sleep to rest for yet another day, for a better day.

#685 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:46 am

news break~ is reported that obozo’s in a bind!

#686 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:47 am

good night (((PUMAS ))) sleep well and see you in Denver

#687 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:48 am

#680 sandipuma

Thank you for the puma prayer.

#688 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:48 am

Well Hillary is right, sometimes we are radical in our frustration. Then again, if we didn’t care so much for her, we wouldn’t be putting ourselves though all this. I have not been anything but a voter since I went to college, and now we are all in a snake pit.

#689 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:49 am

yes Go~ no claws tomorrow~ that would be a better day… :)

#690 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:49 am

#685 sandipuma
Night , sleep well.

#691 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:50 am

I believe words spoken directly from HRC and no others.

#692 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:51 am

Well PUMAs, I am burned out today too. We used to stay up until about 2 am, but we are burning the candles at both ends these past few days.
Tomorrow I will be strong again, send more letters to Hillarys super delegates and I hope you all have sweet dreams.
Good night.

#693 sandipuma on 08.22.08 at 2:51 am

thank you goandersen and you too. See ya all tomorrow

#694 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 2:52 am

Paul,
I haven’t been reading this blog for the last few days so I’m coming in very late. Sounds like you’re doing a wonderful service trying to interface between us RRRRrrrradicals and something official. :-) Very difficult position for you.

I suppose you know about the blogs where PUMA started? That’s riverdaughter’s Confluence. Alegre’s blog ‘Alegre’s Corner’ is a good one too. They are very thoughtful and do long posts and are imo a little dull. :-)
I’m sure you know about Heidi Li Feldman’s Potpourri blog, and Marc Rubin’s “The Denver Group” http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
(Beware of a ringer site denvergroup without ‘the’.) I’ve got links to a variety of PUMA sites at turndownobama.com
Surely you know about Justsaynodeal.com?? That’s Diane’s coalition/overview of the whole online movement. She’s a professional D.C. publicist person, so she should know how to talk to suits. :-)

#695 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:52 am

#688 SouthJerseyPUMA

:)

#696 texassherry on 08.22.08 at 2:52 am

#690 goandersen ,

Ditto. OOPs I broke my promise. Sorry. BAck to lurk mode. LOL

#697 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:52 am

ok it is my bed time too~ the meds are wearing off already~ need to somehow doze off~ lots to do tomorrow!

#698 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:53 am

#691 BillieJo

Good Night. Get some rest. See you on the flip side.

#699 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:53 am

Go……………….thank you.
We will Party in Denver till the cows come home.
Tomorrow will be a great day. I hope Obama picks Ron Paul just to confuse everyone. :roll:

#700 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:53 am

#696 SouthJerseyPUMA
I hope you sleep well. See you tomorrow..

#701 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:54 am

Flip side, yo dudette.

#702 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:54 am

#695 texassherry

You bad! lol!

#703 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 2:55 am

#700 BillieJo

dudette!

#704 BillieJo on 08.22.08 at 2:57 am

Thank you for your PUMA prayer, SandiPUMA.

Sleep well everyone.

#705 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 2:57 am

Paul,
I forgot to mention hillaryis44.org. It stays more on topic than we do here or at bitterpoliticz. There’s more detached speculation, and more brainstorming. Of course you may hit a few screens of people making some very rough jokes or occasionally a flareup. One poster there, wwboei, is a retired lawyer and has some very good things to say (and some nonsense). I don’t know how much you know about blogs like these, but there are very good things to be found,just ignore the chaff.

#706 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:58 am

sandi~ a beautiful prayer btw… and i havent forgot Dad in my prayers as promised…

and sorry about your Mom paulhillary~ lost my Mom too… i understand what it is to miss one’s Mother~ ….

goodnite Go~ thanks for the aides!! :P it has been fun~ made me forget my aches for a lil while…

please love each other~ keep positive!!! ♥

#707 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 2:59 am

lol billiejo~ :lol:

#708 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 3:03 am

that lol was for 698~ RON PAUL!! LOL>>>

#709 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 3:04 am

was i left downstairs again?!! or everyone went zzzzzing~ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

nite ……… muah!!!

#710 turndownobama on 08.22.08 at 3:06 am

Paul,
… eeryone, Im so sorry to keep on and on, but I may not get back when this resumes….

Please please do get through to the campaign people that they had better do some serious polling as to whether Hillary on Obama’s ticket would actually help him. WP/ABC July poll said not, it would repel as many as it attracted. As for us PUMAs, pls note most of us here ARE AGAINST IT. I’d certainly work DOUBLY hard against Obama/Clinton. Giving up her own independent career in the Senate to prop up the man who abused her is NOT a good role model.

#711 goandersen on 08.22.08 at 3:07 am

Well, this puma is beat.

Visualize HRC in all her glory!

Good Night. Bite the Bugs!

#712 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 3:15 am

Am I all by myself!?!?! :(

Had to dig a trench around the house to let the water that Fay dropped run off or maybe it is the tears of the angels of God that evil is attempting to take our country over.

Simple solution…Nobama! Hillary in 2008! The rain has stopped! :)

#713 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 3:35 am

Weather has cleared somewhat and the rain is gone..headache is over (I sincerely hope it is!) and I am feeling better!

25 Vonay

I found PC Pit Stop to be a big help to me when I first started trying to figure out my computer. It does help some but youhave to give up some information!

#714 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 3:36 am

Good Morning all Pumas! I am going to start reading to catch up! Hope you had/ are having a safe trip Murphy and all! Make lots of pics for us!

#715 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 3:42 am

had to come back to post this for all PUMA’s~

Dear ,

Yesterday, we lost a colleague, a friend, an inspiration, and a champion for all of us. I am deeply saddened by the death of Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She was my friend and my sister. She made me laugh, smile and fired up my spirit when I needed it most.

She had a light that shone for the world to see within her and a fighting spirit safely stowed behind her disarming smile. Stephanie had so much integrity and a fiery intelligence that enabled her to become a one-woman force for progress in our country.

Stephanie was a tireless worker, giving a voice to the voiceless and always combating injustice. Stephanie spent much of her life fighting for all Americans and to ensure that everyone had the most precious right – the right to vote.

All of us who were lucky enough to know her and love her can only strive to be as much like her as we can — to be as passionate, as loyal, as hard-charging, and as joyful every single day.

Stephanie was one of a kind, and we will miss our friend forever.

My family’s deepest condolences are with Stephanie’s son, Mervyn, her family, and her many loved ones, friends, supporters, and her beloved Ohioans. It is during this tough time that we look back and remember all the memories and blessings that Stephanie brought into our lives. If you have a thought, a story, a prayer, or condolences you would like to share, you can visit our website today so we can rejoice together in the friendship and love that we have for Stephanie. All the notes and memories we gather will be sent to her family on behalf of our extended family.

Send in your thoughts and memories about Stephanie.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/sharestories/?sc=4010&utm_source=4010&utm_medium=e

Thank you,

Hillary

#716 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 3:45 am

ok… i am going to bed… hope you Floridians are ok!! will also hold you all in my prayers!!

good-night!

#717 freddiebrown on 08.22.08 at 3:47 am

Hello Murphy -
Just got off the plane from NY and can’t wait to read what has been happening… It is so unfortunate that my busiest time of the year ends in August so have not been terribly active except for work that Texas Sherry was doing on my behalf. Please let me know if you need funds for Denver or is the kitty OK ?

Didn’t know if you saw my post from a few nights ago. I spoke to Geraldine Ferraro herself and she thanked us all for the cards and letters. She said obviously it would not be possible to reply – but was very grateful for the support. She said she mentioned it to Fox news.

#718 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 3:51 am

SouthJerseyPUMA Thanks 18 million plus!! I just send prior to your post a thought regarding Stephanie…wow!

Just came back to see if anyone was still here.

#719 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 3:53 am

still reading :lol: ..sounds as if y’all had some fun!

#720 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 3:55 am

714 SouthJerseyPUMA

I recieved this letter from Hillary, too. I sent in my regards/condolences.

#721 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 3:58 am

turndownobama

That is not true. If BO gets the nomination, we have no time to waste; challenging nomination papers on state ballots must be done within the deadline in each state.

I only checked this blog to keep up; I did not intend to answer. It’s 3:55A DST. I just stopped the other project and figured I would just check in before I go to sleep.

#722 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 3:59 am

SunshineLvr o/Sebellius Mc/Romney
Maxgrader: O/Kaine Mc/Romney
Gypsy O/Bayh Mc/Pawlenty
TexasTigress O/Clark Mc/Rice
Michelle47 O/Kaine Mc/Romeny
Kids1627 O/Clinton
Carrie O/Mo Mc/Rush
Queen81 O/Biden
Mountain Song O/Biden Mc/Petraeus
Antifish O/Bayh Mc/Palin
Lisa Clinton/O Mc/Palin
Atypical BO/O
Slyt2 BO/Sebellius Mc/Romney
CTKey Clinton/Sebellius Mc/Palin
TennesseePuma OX/Sebellius Mc/Romney
BillieJo Hillary/Hillcats-18 million to choose from
Hillstheone BO/Biden Mc/Romney
Greenfun BO/Patrick-Squidword Mc/Ridge
LilyMaid BO/Bayh
4hillca BO/Bayh Mc/Romney
DaddysDarlin Clinton/Ferraro Mc/Lieberman
bobram BO/Biden Mc/Lieberman
Doria O/Bayh McCain/Romney
Jbjd Clinton/McCain Obama/McCain
zephyr McCain/Clinton
NewOrleansPuma BO/Richardson Mc/Pawlenty

Long Shots:
MaxGrader: O/Clinton Mc/Powell
Gypsy O/Powell Mc/Liebermann
Slyt2 BO/Kaine Mc/Rice
Others: Anna7000 ?
Blue Blue Gal Someone we are not expecting.

BO’s Text Message – Al Sharpton

#723 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:00 am

720 jbjd

Thank you for all your hard work..you just keep on going! I stand in awe! hope you have a good night/day!

#724 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:04 am

Florida Pumas Here’s hoping you are doing ok. I tried to read the posts from yesterday morning and it amounts to about 1400 of them!!

New Pumas Hello to all.

Important Stuff If you have anything that you think I need, please let me know. I won’t be on again until tonite and that means I’m going to be real behind in the posts.

Pumas going to Denver Please be careful and think of us back here going “nuts” wondering what’s happening. Thanks for supporting all of us!! My prayers are with you.

#725 Nijma on 08.22.08 at 4:06 am

For the Nobamas, here are some thoughts:
http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/why-barack-obama-should-tap-hillary-for-vp-and-why-she-should-accept/

#726 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:07 am

#723 1gypsy4mc

good morning..I agree with your post and I hope you have a nice day, too.

#727 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:10 am

When someone who can answer this gets on..
I ordered a mug a few weeks ago but I did not use my puma email..do I need to send in the info? It seems to me that it would not matter-as long as the $$ and I have the receipt..(which I do)..but if it does make a difference..could you post it ? thanks!

#728 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:10 am

725 Sunshinelvr

Are you OK? It was said that in some places Florida had as much as 5 feet of rain? Wow. Were you flooded out?

#729 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:13 am

oh no, I am not in Florida..I am in Georgia near the border..near Jacksonville..we just got a lot of the rain and wind

#730 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:14 am

but thanks for asking..I seem to have aquired the habit (or something ) of developing these horrible headaches during these storms

#731 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:16 am

Did you get to hear Geraldine F? I really like that woman!! She said Hillary did “not” want VP. Geraldine also said she is a Democrat, but her “country” comes first. Boy, I wish we could take her to lunch some day!!

Well, are the rains gone in your area or did Fay decide to settle in for awhile.

#732 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 4:18 am

1gypsyformc

I noticed this posting last night but I did not correct this. Please, take my name off of this list. I was not proposing my picks for P and VP when I posted those names along with the numbers; I was posting the results of a poll that included HRC, so people could take this to Denver! (She was beating JMc by 6; BO was beating him by 3. And she had not only suspended her campaign 3 months earlier but also indicated her support for BO.)

Sunshinelvr

I can sleep sometime after the convention.

#733 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:18 am

yes I listened to hear.She is such a level-headed person, doesn’t sound like a “us-against-them ” type politician!

#734 freddiebrown on 08.22.08 at 4:19 am

#730 1gypsy4mc – What did you mean “hear” Geraldine F? Was she on TV ? I have been out of the loop with no internet and TV until late at night.

I did talk to her and some things I don’t want to blog here.

#735 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:19 am

the rains seem to be gone..its quite foggy, but seems to be clearing, although they are saying off and on rain all weekend..we can use the rain , though

#736 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:21 am

Am going to lay back down. Coyotes have been out alot the last couple of nites and my dogs go absolutely nuts and warn us, so haven’t gotten alot of good sleep. With our minins and their new foals, we are always on alert. I have one little mare due to foal any day, so not getting much rest anyways.

I’ll be on in alitte while again. I’m usually up really early, but I have a hard day today trying to finish my work out for the week.

Keep me posted everyone, please.

#737 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:22 am

733 freddiebrown

she was on hannity & colmes..I saw the rerun..she is just such a believable . down-to-earth person I always admired her. She is a straight talker! (to take a page from McCain!)

#738 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:23 am

735 1gypsy4mc
have a good sleep..I have to start with breakfast here in a few..

#739 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:23 am

733 freddiebrown

Yes, she was on FOX news yesterday.

#740 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:25 am

I never thought I would ever be watching Fox! and quoting them! My son has always loved Fox and O’Reilly, but I thought he was a rabble-rouser! Funny how things change! I loved NBC, but I never watch them anymore at all.

#741 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:26 am

731 jbjd

No problem…I was just trying to keep up with everyone. Did you send out special info yesterday?

#742 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:29 am

We are supposed to get a quarter inch to an inch of rain this weekend with winds expected to be 20/25 mph..guess it isn’t over yet! So if I am not on here..It will just seem normal because nobody notices anyway.
:) :lol: going to go read the papers..have a wonderful day everyone! Still proud to be part of the group! :lol:

#743 freddiebrown on 08.22.08 at 4:30 am

#736 Sunshinelvr
So sorry to have missed it. I was at a Trade Show all day and flying all night today (am in California). I was very impressed (well obviously) with her. Very straight forward and doesn’t mince words. I asked questions and she answered firmly what she thought much to my surprise. Not one of those people afraid to say what she thinks. I thought she would be hesitant to answer since I was a complete stranger – I didn’t want to waste my opportunity so I asked pointed questions – why beat around the bush.

#744 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:31 am

741 Sunshinelvr

Good nite – I always see you here – I am a person that needs SUN.

#745 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:34 am

742 freddiebrown

I personally feel she has alot of strength and character.

Are you from CA or just doing business there?

#746 freddiebrown on 08.22.08 at 4:41 am

Am from S. Cal
Was in NY on Business
Have one and a half days before going to Vegas. Have to miss Denver.

#747 storytellers on 08.22.08 at 4:46 am

good morning pumas
any news?????????

#748 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:47 am

745 freddiebrown

Geez – that’s alot of traveling. Couldn’t handle it. Well, you know you’ll be able to keep up with everything though. Take care and stay safe – I know you do alot for everyone here.

#749 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 4:49 am

746 storytellers

Good morning – I don’t have anything – still trying to catch up on 1400 posts….there will be more on here shorty though. Have a good day everyone.

#750 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 4:52 am

For those wondering about Florida:

There are many places flooded and still to flood over the next week. Lots of power outages. Rained in many places over 20″. They have had to rescue people using boats along the eastern coast, add contaminated water = bad situation!

I live in Orlando but thank God for blogging on this site! I took a break from reading and came back; I noticed a wet area on the floor. At first I thought the cats!?!?! But realized that they could not go that much! Then seen there was no rain from above, went outside and realized the yard was flooding! My son came over and we dug trenches for hours. Looks like trolls have been here. Told God that was enough rain as I looked like a drowned rat! No lightening happened but the rain did stop! :)

Today we both had roof leaks since the rain was coming sideways. Fixed them! My other son in Orlando lost power. I have only had power surges. As far as I can tell, all us PUMAS are OK!

I also am contracted to work for FEMA. The water has to recede or they need to bring in the computers to start processing people in various locations. It will be a few months or more before all the work is done.

Everyone thought it would be nothing…kind of like us with the primary season! What a shock!

Hillary in 2008! No more Fays in the future like Nobama!

#751 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:52 am

okay breakfast is ready..come and get it..grits, eggs, bacon , coffee and taost if you want it w/ grape jelly!

on another note..that was a rather ungracious remark I made earlier. Ignore it,please! Maybe it will be deleted.You can’t have the ARMY without the INFANTRY!!! and I am one of many!

Good Morning PUMAS! I have breakfast and can take ordes (as long as they don’t get too complicated! ) alas we are out of bagels and cream cheese!!

#752 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 4:56 am

749 NoMoreInFL

good to hear you made it..if you need a place to stay come on up and bunk with us. we are in south Georgia and scheduled to get lots of wind and rain this weekend but maybe we will be okay..as I hope you will be.

#753 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 4:59 am

Yes, we notice Sunshinelvr! Thanks for the compliment yesterday when I wrote that letter for God.

Breakfast sounds so great! I can smell the coffee and bacon! Wow, how do you make those grits?!?!? The best ever!! :)

Thanks, I needed some nourishment!

#754 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 5:01 am

ATTENTION ALL GEORGIANS WHO SENT LETTERS TO THE AG
*****************************************************

Please read this.
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/

‘We done good’ (no matter who takes the credit).

#755 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:02 am

:lol: you probably could use some help right about now.. wish I could just pass it over to you

#753 jbjd

I was one of those! good ! wonderful!

#756 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 5:03 am

If it stalls again, I may just take you up on your offer! Five days of a slooooooow storm is a bit much! This blog has kept my mind off of the outside weather.

Where in Georgia are you?

#757 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:06 am

about 60 miles south side of Macon …about 2 1/2 hours north of savannah..called eastman –a small town..but we live here

#758 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 5:11 am

Sunshinelvr, jbjd…way to go PUMAS!!

Not that far but far enough to stay out of harms way! I will remember that…thanks!

Have you ever eaten at Paula Dean’s in Savannah?

#759 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:15 am

no, I haven’t eaten at Paula Dean’s, but I hear it is really good. I have watched her on TV from various shows and she seems quite popular. they are predicting a quarter inch to an inch of rain here and 20/25 mph winds..shouldn’t be too bad though..we will see..

#760 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 5:18 am

I am going to hit the hay. Was on troll or should I say trench watch! Yard is finally drained!

Have a great day PUMAS! Safe travels to those on the road or air to Denver.

Good night Sunshinelvr or should I say good morning!?!?

#761 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:19 am

http://makethemaccountable.com/

I found a copy of the lawsuit! wow! I can’t wait to hear how it goes!

#762 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:20 am

759 NoMoreInFL
it would be good morning to me. I was in bed early and am going to be up for awhile now.I have some things to do. You have a good day/night yourself!

#763 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:25 am

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13074.htm

interesting story here..about *61′s jewish support..or lack of..

#764 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:27 am

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

good story here about campaign finances..

#765 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 5:28 am

We were told 2″ that somehow grew to 8+” in one day! Hope they forecast better there. Be safe and dry!

I should of been a meterologist…never get fired for being wrong every day! :) You think community organizer is another word for meterologist?

Night Sunshinelvr – Morning…must have water on the brain! When I am in Georgia, we will have to go to Paula’s…my treat since you made such a great breakfast! :) e-mail me at gmail same name

#766 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:30 am

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/08/20/guess-who-is-the-opening-night-speaker-at-the-dnc-the-man-from-plains-georgia/

interesting story about opening night speaker

#767 storytellers on 08.22.08 at 5:36 am

I am just about done with the pots
I do not who this paulhillary is
I do not think he is a troll
I do not know his purpose
BUT HE IS A DISTRACTION FROM OUR GOALS
to me everything that he had said has no consistency

#768 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:39 am

766 storytellers

not only is he a distraction..all the talk “ABOUT WHO HE IS” is a distraction.. aw ..”what you said”

#769 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 5:41 am

766 storytellers

ditto

#770 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 5:53 am

good morning everyone

#771 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 5:53 am

good morning everyone

#772 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:54 am

Hi trish

#773 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:55 am

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/bill_baracks_excellent_adventu.html

another good article..just reading and catching up on the news ..waiting for the big news about the law suit later!

#774 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 5:56 am

good morning Pumas,
i believe he was lying,do you know how we can get all his post listed at once,in one post he told ladyhawkke he was in a different part of the building from jeremy, 3 flights up on the other side. jeremy is the guy she was corresponding with by phone,earlier tonight he said he sat right next to him……..

#775 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:57 am

Trish ..will they be posting who is carrying our names in Denver? Or did I mis-understand that post?

#776 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 5:57 am

Pumas, good morning,
i believe he was lying,do you know how we can get all his post listed at once,in one post he told ladyhawkke he was in a different part of the building from jeremy, 3 flights up on the other side. jeremy is the guy she was corresponding with by phone,earlier tonight he said he sat right next to him……..

#777 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 5:58 am

#772 Sunshinelvr

It’s sounds to me like the lawsuit is just simply “oh well, let’s file it so we can say we did, then bo can move on and be harrassed by the repubs later over this”

#778 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:58 am

Good morning tennaseepuma! :)

#779 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 5:58 am

sorry about the double post……

#780 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 5:59 am

#774 Sunshinelvr
i think you understood correctly, i thought Maryland said they will post something abut it today

#781 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 5:59 am

#776 TrishfromCanada

yes, it could be one of those distractions that keeps popping up..because McCain has ads out about *61 and ayers..

#782 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 6:01 am

tennassee i can do that when i get to work this morning

#783 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 6:02 am

It is just STILL amazing to me that ANYONE in their right mind thinks this person should be allowed anywhere NEAR the White House..much less IN it as POTUS!!!

#784 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 6:02 am

or maybe he just want us to think he is important…….and he is teally just a gopher.

#785 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 6:04 am

sorry i meant really.
Trish that would be great i dont know how to do it…..

#786 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 6:05 am

Don’t forget the polls!!

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/05/aol-straw-poll-aug-18-25

#787 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:07 am

Good Morning, Pumas, what have I missed?

#788 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:08 am

ok still never went to bed!!! been reading~ and look what I found~

Sunday, August 24, 6pm-8pm
Monday, August 25, 9am-11am
Tuesday, August 26, 9am-11am
Check-In for 18 Million Voices’ Members and Supporters
The Broker Restaurant, 821 17th Street

We invite all members and supporters to check-in with us upon their arrival in Denver. At check-in they will receive a detailed schedule of all formal and informal activities that we have planned, as well as practical information pertaining to their stay in Denver.

Monday, August 25, 10 am-10pm
Welcome Activities and Women’s Rights History Exhibit
Confluence Park

We invite all of our members, all supporters of Senator Clinton, and all National Delegates to stop by this serene location on the river to say hello, meet and greet fellow supporters of Senator Clinton, participate in a variety of preparation activities for our August 26th March and Celebration, and learn all about the history of the women’s rights movement.

Tuesday, August 26, 11:30 am
Celebration March
Assembly Point: Bannock Street between 14th and Colfax– Outside of Civic Center Park- enter at 14th Street

We will be marching to advocate for women’s rights, honor the historic 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage, and celebrate Senator Hillary Clinton’s historic achievements during the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary and throughout her life.

Tuesday, August 26, 3pm-10pm
Celebration of Women’s Equality Day
Cheesman Park

We invite all supporters of Senator Clinton to join us in this beautiful Denver Park after the March to continue the party as we celebrate the 88th anniversary of Women’s Suffrage and honor Senator Hillary Clinton while she makes her historic speech during prime time at the Democratic National Convention. Speakers, invited guests, entertainment, and a large screen display where participants can watch the evening’s events at the Pepsi Center are planned.

Thanks,
RiseHillaryRise
Lead Organizer/Founder
18 Million Voices
http://18millionvoices.blogspot.com
ph: 973-776-4125

#789 freddiebrown on 08.22.08 at 6:09 am

I have read one too many posts and discussion on Paul Hillary.

My question to everyone – is he important to our cause ? Does he add to our crucial productivity ? Need we spend precious time discussing his posts ? It is 4 days to Denver Convention. Can we move on or have our time stolen by chronic time thieves ?

#790 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 6:09 am

the other is a bad link..here is a better one..

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/05/aol-straw-poll-aug-4-11

And good morning everyone!!

#791 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:14 am

goodmorning puma’s~ although it will be goodnight for me~ sooner or later…

#792 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:14 am

On Fox, McCain’s political ad about “Houses.” I love it, McCain is getting very good at coming back at Obama. XO never should have gone there as now Tony Rezco is being looked at again. I have good vibes that something will take him down, at least, I’m praying something will. I think the infanticide matter is something that people are concerned about. He has problems with that.
Also, he is just stringing out the news on his VP pick, will probably wait until the suspense is unbearable for the Obots, I just hope it’s not Hillary.

#793 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:16 am

#790 SouthJerseyPuma Wow, were you up all night or do you work a late shift? I woke up at 5am, went to bed around 10:30pm

#794 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 6:18 am

Freddie,
I did not get involved in any of the discussion about him, i just wasnt sure about him because of some of the things he said. i believe he lied tonight and I just wanted someone to check his post. i meant no harm and i agree that all that arguing distracts us,so most of the time i dont get involved. i will not bring it up again.

#795 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 6:19 am

be back in a few hours, have to go to work now

#796 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:20 am

792# nah just always was a night owl~ would be a better west coast american than east coast~ i am also watching fox~ great stuff being reported!! :)

#797 tennaseepuma on 08.22.08 at 6:21 am

everyone have a great day,i will be lurking on and off today….go murphy and pumas and Hillary 08!

#798 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:23 am

#789 Sunshinelvr Can we believe that poll? Surely, XO is winning his home state of IL.

#799 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:24 am

776 TrishfromCanada
I thought the same thing…

#800 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:25 am

P.S. I didn’t get to finish my prowl to the supers after the “breaking news” about the lawsuit. Kept trying to find out something to hang onto. I suppose the messages will get to their offices and their secretaries or whomever checks their e-mail will give them our messages.

#801 freddiebrown on 08.22.08 at 6:25 am

Does anyone think that Hillary will get the 300 votes she needs ?

Perhaps we should do a last minute Super Delegate campaign : Just a short and concise email from us personally, not necessarily a form letter. Form Letters have limited effectiveness. After the third one, they probably just hit “delete”

I think a whisper campaign to SD’s : That they should abondon the sinking Obama Boat while they can. Vote Hillary and be guaranteed a win against McCain.

It does not look so good that a young celebrity nominee adored far and wide can barely hold on against an old codger like McCain. Something is wrong here… perhaps his fan base thinks his novelty brand of politics is not a novelty anymore. This is the change I like – people changing their minds about Obama. But for the DNC, this is not the change they thought they would get from Obama. That is what you get pitting a guy that is more appearance than substance.

#802 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:26 am

Good Morning Prowlland, what do you think, am I to continue with the prowl of yesterday?

Fox, they are touting an XO/Clinton ticket, I hate it.

#803 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:27 am

800 freddiebrown
I was told the had them. I know I know…show me proof…lol i dont have any.

#804 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:28 am

i am finally pooped out~ need to catch a few hrs of zzz’s…

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

almost time for DENVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

see ya later in the day~ love ya PUMA’s!!!!

keep the peace~ share the l&heartsve!!!

hey fox just said bo needs to fear Hillary!!! i love it!!!

hey i hear Jack ? is not releasing his schedule for next wk~ hmmmmm… i missed the damn last name!!!!!

anyone know Jack ???????? could that mean something????

#805 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:28 am

801 ladyhawkke
I have no idea…i had just sent one to the delegates the day before …so i didnt do it yesterday

#806 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:30 am

oh yeah gm :lol:

#807 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:31 am

I can’t beleive i had left out the last few delegates on that list,,, i’ll go back and send them one today

#808 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:32 am

keep the peace~ share the l♥ve!!!

that’s better!!

#809 gojoyknocks on 08.22.08 at 6:33 am

Good morning, I’m sure there are pledged delegates looking to us for information to take to Denver. Please take today to post accurate and intelligent arguments for them. They will be under enormous pressure. Let’s give them all the help they need.I think a good place to start would be money paid to super delegates. Thank you.

#810 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:33 am

hey if you go to

http://www.twitter.com

you can live chat with the news room staff of fox and friends!!

#811 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:34 am

I think ill do the Media today… going to wait and see if the news breaks with you know what .

#812 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:35 am

#749 NoMoreInFL Oh, I’m so sorry that you had so much flooding. I’m lucky it does not flood in my section, but there is massive flooding all around the county, including Flagler Beach where A1A is in danger of being washed away. I blame the County for not moving the road instead of spending millions to pump in sand. Also, Florida, and the entire country are being overrun by greedy developers whose only goal is to build and destroy the environment. I don’t know if you are aware of a petition you can sign to stop the developers from changing the comp plan. Opponents, of course, are against it because they want to keep building. I believe we have more signatures than is shown here. Do a search and find the petition. If you want me to send you the link from the attorney, contact me at prowlhawkke at gee mail

http://floridahometowndemocracy.com/update.html

#813 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:36 am

#800 Freddie Brown I heard we had more than the 300 and I hope that’s fact for a change.

#814 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:38 am

ladyhawkke did you know the radio station is shutting down ?

#815 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:42 am

pelosi IS NOW CENSORING POSTERS FROM THE TROOPS ON DISPLAY~ WHO THE %#@* DOES SHE THINK SHE IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GROOOOOWWWWLLLLLL!!!

#816 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 6:43 am

I hope all Pumas have a lovely day.I will be watching for my prowl or just doing the things I can find on my own. My governor (georgia) reminded delegates here that they are bound by law to vote as they are elected to vote. sad news is , I think *61 mostly won here. bummer! I am going to check that out though, so I can be sure. oh btw, the AOL poll is just for fun I like to keep McCain ahead by as much as possible. :lol:

#817 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:44 am

#813 which radio station, Ed Hale’s?

#818 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:46 am

yes…go listen

#819 Notyoursweetie on 08.22.08 at 6:47 am

Seems that beyond Hillary, Bobots can’t muster much passion
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/no-interest-beyond-killing-hillary-clinton/

#820 Headclunker on 08.22.08 at 6:47 am

Pumas,

I think PaulHillary is what he says he is until we know different. He is generally respectful and the groundrules of the blog have been explained. It is up to you whether or not you let him distract you. Stay focused.

Yesterday, after I held up my Clinton for President sign with the PUMA banner at the Rally with Clinton in Florida, I talked to some reporters from Japan’s TV Asahi and they are interested in us. I believe they also contacted Will Bower.

#821 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:47 am

PROWLLAND, I will, but he just got a $500 donation last night from that man that was honoring his son and I sent him $10 yesterday. I guess it’s for going to Denver?

#822 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:47 am

814 SouthJerseyPUMA
Im telling you she thinks she a god !!

#823 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:49 am

820 ladyhawkke
well i just listen to it… i missed most of last night …so i was going to listen to it this am

#824 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:49 am

#819 Headclunker, Wow, that is great. We are really getting a lot of coverage and are a force to be reckoned with!

#825 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 6:50 am

He has a message telling us that it was gone as of midnight tonight i think

#826 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:52 am

#822 Prowland

I was on last night and called in about XO’s abortion problems. But nothing was mentioned about the show shutting down. I do know MommaE was there for a minute and then left, people were begging her to come back. I did call her yesterday and she was all distraught over not having airconditioning and the service men that came by said she would have to wait until today.
She did want the link to the XO lawsuit and we corresponded back and forth on that. Any news there, I’m going to texasdarling for an update.

#827 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:56 am

Obozo’s VP pick will be;

JACK REED~

Residence: Cranston

Marital Status: Married (Julia Hart)

Prev. Occupation: Attorney

Prev. Political Exp.: RI House, 1985-91; US House, 1991-96

Military: USA, 1967-79

Education: BS United States Military Academy, 1971; MPP Harvard University, 1982; JD Harvard University, 1982

Birthdate: 11/12/1949

Birthplace: Providence, RI

Religion: Catholic

* i think this is his pick as Reed’s schedule is unavailable for the rest of the week~ hmmmm….

remember you heard it here first if so~ :)

#828 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 6:59 am

no info on lawsuit till 10 am today~ as far as i know..

#829 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 6:59 am

#822 Prowlland I went to the site, I’m at a loss to understand the depression he is putting forth that the “trolls have won.” I just e-mailed both of them. Oh well, we can’t worry about everyone. We have our own agenda and that is to get Hillary the nomination. I’m going to complete the prowl with the e-mail addys you gave me.

#830 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:02 am

Found this link on the lawsuit. Of course, let’s blame the Clintons. They get blamed for everything.
http://atlasshrugs.bustablog.com/the-art-of-war-the-clintonostra-file-suit-to-remove-barack-obama-from-the-ballot/

#831 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 7:03 am

828 ladyhawkke
I wish i could have donated some …but just couldn’t

#832 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 7:06 am

829 ladyhawkke
omg….well that does that…we need media prowl !!
I have lots of media… emails….. if yo want them email me my name geeeeeee mail

#833 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:08 am

this guy is from Laffayette Hill.. I date a guy from there and he say’s he is a well know lawyer~ and this is not the first lawsuit he has filed with this type of agenda~

he is a supporter of Hillary~ that doesnt mean she is INVOLVED! for gaud sake!!!

just blabber on that site~ spent 1 second there~ and x it out….

#834 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:12 am

#830 Prowlland, I wouldn’t worry about it. I mean someone flat out donated $500 last night, we were beside ourselves. He was donating in the name of his son who was in Iraq and everyone wanted to send him a care package. Someone did put out her e-mail addy and asked this man to contact her so she could do the care package.

Also, does anyone remember when Bill Clinton said this?

“I think everybody’s got a right to run for President who qualifies under the Constitution. And I’d be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition.” Bill Clinton, August 8, 2008

I distinctly remember the interview and I told my husband that was a coded message, I mean who says that unless there is something there?

Yes, we could do a media prowl. We do have media e-mails. What should we say, ANYONE?

#835 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 7:13 am

interesting story here on the kennedy’s and *61 ‘s connection

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,573555-2,00.html

#836 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:15 am

Update from makethemaccountable:
UPDATE–COMPLAINT TO BE AVAILABLE ON PACER AT 10 AM ET TOMORROW, BERG ARGUES MOTION FOR RESTRAINING ORDER, ALSO IN THE MORNING

Attorney Phil Berg of Philadephia, PA alleges that Obama is not a us citizen nor his he “natural born” and within the next 30 minutes will be filing a complaint and motion for a temporary restraining order prohibiting Obama from running for Office of the President and enjoining the DNC from naming Obama as a nominee for Democratic Presidential election.

IN PHILADELPHIA: US District Court, Eastern District of PA, 2nd floor Clerk’s Office on 601 Market Street in Philadelphia, PA
—————————————-
another e-mai:
Press release: Philip J. Berg, Esq. Files Federal Lawsuit Requesting Obama Be Removed as a Candidate as he does not meet the Qualifications for President

Suit filed 08/21/08, No. 08-cv-4083

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, … filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

1. Is not a naturalized citizen; and/or
2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg stated: “I filed this action at this time to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.

Click here for more of the press release, links to the documents filed, and contact information for Phil Berg.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

I’m still waiting for my Unity Pony.

#837 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:16 am

maybe just pass on a link to the lawsuit that gives this info and let the media get the story????

“Update on Federal Lawsuit [Update 1]”
August 21, 2008 · Update 1: Case #08-CV-4083
This is the information I have received as of 5:28 PM EST:

Papers have been filed, not yet scanned into the Pacer system.

The complaint is asking for declaratory (asking the court to declare Obama is not a US citizen, a “natural born” citizen and not eligible under the qualifications of the US Constitution to run for Office of President).

Also asking for injunctive relief and an emergency TRO. Further asking for EXPEDITED Discovery.

We are asking that Obama provide a “ceritified copy” of the oath he took to regain his citizenship.
We are asking for court orders, ordering the state department, HI department of records and other governmental agencies to turn over any and everything on Obama, all certified.

Plaintiff: PHILIP J. BERG

Defendant:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a/k/a
BARRY SOETORO, a/k/a
BARRY OBAMA , a/k/a
BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a
BARRY DUNHAM, THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL
ELECTION COMMISSION AND
DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE

#838 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:20 am

Geraldine is on fox~ conversation will start after break..

#839 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:21 am

hey I wonder if this lawyer would want more plaintiff’s to add to his suit? wonder if it is too late for that? maybe we should call his office???

#840 Sunshinelvr on 08.22.08 at 7:22 am

I also heard that the judge on this case is Ed Rendell’s wife..do not know if it is true..have no proof…

#841 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 7:23 am

Ok…i just read an email that scares the chit out of me…i know some you got it tooo.. about Bill Gwatney

#842 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:25 am

FROM RICKI LIEBERMAN (EW) IMP TO KEEP CONTACTING DELEGATES

As the pledged and super delegates get ready to go to Denver, we have their attention. Obama just is NOT SEALING THE DEAL. The polls are leaning downward for him as is the projected Electoral College count.

It is all about November, not Mile High Stadium, a message we must communicate to all delegates.

To the pledged delegates, we must impress upon them the importance of voting for Hillary on the first ballot as recognition of Hillary’s historic candidacy, to honor the 18 million votes, and to represent the voters who sent the delegates to Denver.

Moreover, in 10 states, and perhaps more, there is are Binding Vote Laws which require all delegates to vote for their candidate. All are binding for the first ballot, some for 2nd and 3rd as well. But it is the first ballot that is the critical one.

The 10 states are California, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Oregon, Tennessee, and Virginia Please be sure that your delegates are aware of this. Any attempts by the DNC or Obama to replace or flip any delegate from these states, is against the law. It is wrong and they should not do it under any circumstances, but we now know that they have been breaking the law aggressively in these states by trying to intimidate and replace delegates everywhere.

The scenario: Delegates representing the 18 million HRC voters, vote for Hillary Clinton; the SDs reach the conclusion that Hillary is the electable Democrat, and…. !!!

For the coming days, FOCUS. Please do not be distracted by anything else. This is our task, to make the scenario a reality.

Each of you please continue to contact “your” lists, and please also contact the delegates and SDs in your state. Of particular importance is to reach or leave messages for your Democratic Congressperson, Governor and US Senators encouraging them to vote for Hillary on the first ballot. They are the leadership of your state delegation.

Questions? Please let me know.
rrlieberma@gmail.com

#843 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:27 am

prowland~ what what??????????

#844 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:27 am

#840 prowlland e-mail that to me. Thanx

#845 prowlland on 08.22.08 at 7:28 am

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BillGwatney.html

#846 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:30 am

Our own JBJD’s comments are also included in Ricki’s e-mail regarding the delegate laws in various states. I don’t want to keep clogging up this blog, but there is info in the e-mail so you can contact the appropriate authorities and report this illegal activity. Does anyone want that info?

#847 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 7:36 am

Why has XO been on Times cover for 7 times? Disgusting.

#848 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:39 am

i have it thanks~ i have known ricki since going to meet her for count the vote~

#849 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:41 am

ok will be back later~ finally falling asleep reading that link~ that is just some crazy chit man!!! I find that far fetched~ since Rove is on HANNITY so much, maybe we should bombared him with the info~ ??????

#850 mpdamon on 08.22.08 at 7:43 am

Hi All

About to shut computer off and will be incommunicado for @ 5 days. Best wishes to all going to Denver, we’ll keep you in our thoughts and prayers.

I’m still hoping Obama picks Pelosi . . . like the idea of being able to vote against two people with one vote.

Bye all. Catch you next week sometime.

#851 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:43 am

cuz they are in the tank!!!!!!!!!! why else??????

#852 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.22.08 at 7:44 am

take care mpdamon~ like that idea also!! lol..

#853 tree on 08.22.08 at 7:48 am

Caracal,

If your still here, you’ve got mail–yahoo

#854 TrishfromCanada on 08.22.08 at 8:06 am

#815 Sunshinelvr

Which state are you in, I have the numbers of where the votes lie, I can check it

#855 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 8:11 am

#839 Sunshinelvr Where did you read that? I wonder if they had to get a judge on an emergency basis. Usually, when a suit is filed, the judges are picked randomly and in order of whose turn it is to hear the case. In the case of an injunction, if the courthouse is closed, they will get a judge on an emergency basis. It could be they specifically requested this judge. If it is a Clinton supporter, the defendant could request that he be recused because of a conflict of interest.

#856 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 8:14 am

ladyhawkke

Please, I am jbjd. Please. Use small letters. No caps. Please. People are confusing me with another blogger whose name is Judah Benjamin. He used the initials “JB.” Caps. He’s a he; I am a she. jbjd

#857 Flowerchild2 on 08.22.08 at 8:27 am

Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

1. Is not a naturalized citizen; and/or
2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

I knew it!! More details on the filing. I know some about citizenship/adoption. He had to have been adopted by his mother’s second husband. Why else would he be using her husband’s name. Plus, if it’s true that his birth records are sealed, it’s because his mother, I would assume did not want anyone to see them. And he can’t be president and have two citizenships even if one is America.

#858 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 8:29 am

ladyhawkke

I have heard from all sorts of strangers over the past few days as the result of my work. I hooked up with Rikki yesterday. How come everyone else knew about her but me?

Did you see my earlier link several comments back to Heidi Li’s Thursday blog, commending the GA AG for writing a letter to his delegates reminding them of the law? OUR GEORGIANS FAXED THE LAW TO HIM A WEEK AGO! This is what I have been working on! Wow. I had already told her about these laws several days ago but she never responded to help. Now, everyone knows about vote binding states, because Rikki put me in her newsletter; and now Heidi mentions this on her blog. (She didn’t mention how she found out; or who was responsible.) So, I sent Heidi a copy of the GA letter we distributed, which she posted. Not that I want credit… I am just so proud of us. I had an idea; I proposed it; and, even if you thought I was crazy, you went along. Turns out, I was onto something that just might help to win the nomination. I wrote letters for each state listed above; each letter has the fax number of the AG. (Finding these numbers, which are often not on the state’s web site, was almost as hard as finding the law.)

Enough. I will debrief after the convention.

#859 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 8:34 am

#855 jbjd Sorry, I didn’t know.

#860 Notyoursweetie on 08.22.08 at 8:35 am

Obots would vote for Bo even if he turned pro-life or started a war with Iran per Faux poll
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/remember-the-freepers-meet-the-obots/

#861 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 8:36 am

#857 jbjd I know you did a lot of work and I thank you so much and I’m sure other Pumas do as well. Sometimes we don’t get credit for the work we do but know that your investigation helped spread the work and we all appreciate it.

#862 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 8:41 am

Letter to a super, some plagarized, some my words, you can change to suit you. Subject: Cast your vote for Senator Clinton on the First Ballot

Dear Super Delegate:

After suffering through the Florida recount in 2000 and through nearly eight years of an illegitimate presidency, I looked forward to 2008 as a year in which we Democrats would cakewalk to victory.

With more than a year-long primary behind us, we find that the “system” developed by the DNC decades ago is not serving us well and, in fact, violated it’s own rules by awarding uncommitted delegates from Michigan to Obama and also giving him 4 of Sen. Clinton’s pledged delegates. Super Delegates, the “safety factor” envisioned by the party leaders long ago, are responsible to ensure that the nation’s voters are presented with the most electable Democrat. For a host of reasons having little to do with democracy or the decisions of voters, the party is in danger of nominating a losing candidate.

On June 7, Senator Clinton suspended, not ended, her campaign. Like many other Democrats across the country, I am writing to Super Delegates whose only job at the convention is to pick the electable candidate in November.

Hillary Clinton is clearly that candidate. Senator Clinton won the popular vote, she had the most momentum after winning six of the last nine contests, and she is stronger in the states that make the biggest difference in who wins and loses the White House. She is the only candidate who can win in the battleground states. Since March 1st, Hillary Clinton has won over a half million more votes than Senator Obama. Hillary Clinton has won states with a total of 308 electoral votes; Obama has won states with a total of 224 electoral votes. Hillary won in 7 of the 8 states with the most electoral votes – Obama won only his home state, Illinois.

During the primary process, the more the voters got to know Barak Obama, the more people voted for Hillary Clinton. Obama did not “close the deal”, and the trends were all toward the nomination of Hillary Clinton, that is except for the relatively small number of Super Delegates who came out in support of Barak Obama, contrary to the preference of the voters.

I have been watching carefully as the presumptive nominee tries, but fails to make his case to the voters. Hardly a resounding vote of confidence.

I ask you to keep an open mind, knowing that you will be called upon to cast your vote for the electable candidate, regardless of your current announced preference. I ask that you vote for Senator Clinton on the FIRST BALLOT. Thank You.

Sincerely, XXXXXX

FOR YOUR INFO:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1218710381368&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

#863 jbjd on 08.22.08 at 8:41 am

prowlland

If I give you some letters, can you email these to the press? I can give you an email link to letters to the editor. email me at double my name at gm.

#864 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 8:42 am

P.S. I’m using the e-mail addy’s that I got from prowland. And also, I included the link in my e-mail.

#865 NJ1313 on 08.22.08 at 8:42 am

This is from another blog I visit~~ Thought you all might like to read it. I am off to Curves where I do alot of politicking… coversations are great and there is no support for BO where I go.

Comment by Northshorelover | 2008-08-21 20:10:59

Thursday, August 21, 2008
Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency

by Jeff Schreiber
America’s Right.com

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit–just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver–for the health of the Democratic Party.

“I filed this action at this time,” Berg stated, “to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.”.

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator’s background, and in today’s lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls “dual loyalties” due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator’s use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of “multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries” remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, “apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight.” As Sen. Obama’s own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham–Obama’s mother–gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama’s birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals–Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital–in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple “registry of birth” records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a “natural born” citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama’s half-sister.

“Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama’s lies and obfuscations,” Berg stated. “If the DNC officers … had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws.”

“It is unfair to the country,” he continued, “for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected.”

http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html

#866 Alice Rodham Puma on 08.22.08 at 8:44 am

Good Morning PUMAs

I don’t know if this link will work, but this is a google translate from the Netherlands about PUMA PAC

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=nl&tl=en

http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/236039/Hillary-Clinton-moet-en-zal-president-worden.html

#867 Alice Rodham Puma on 08.22.08 at 8:46 am

ok, I guess the link didn’t work, here it is (googlized translation!)

Hillary Clinton should and will be president!

By: Godelief Swank
Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 23:55
Update: Yesterday 00:35

A group gepikeerde Hillary fans is still so angry that their heroine is not elected, that they are an anti-Obama lobby. ‘You can even better on McCain votes. ”

It is the coming days it or under it to the American PUMA’s (Party Unity My Ass, or the expurgated version which they registered: People United Means Action). This anti-Obama-Action Committee has exactly four days to Democratic America to convince them that Hillary Clinton actually the right presidential candidate.

The members of PUMA – according to the website are tens of thousands – believe that Barack Obama on undemocratic manner has been nominated by the party executive. He is “selected, not elected.” In other words, his nomination does not represent the will of the people. And certainly not those of them. Obama would in all its inexperience no more than a poor substitute for Hillary.

Vote

The event protestgroep go where the work is the Democratic Convention, which begins Monday in Denver. PUMA Dozens of volunteers are ready to try to fly, with suitcases full of printed T-shirts, posters and armbandjes. “PUMA PAC – defenders of democracy.”

In recent weeks, they are drowsy call to Democratic (super) delegates. The goal: to ensure that Hillary as a nominee on the list remains, and that its support during the vote which the delegates one by one their preference for a candidate speak, so strong that the party then nothing else can still nominate her.

And otherwise, there is Plan B: ensuring that Clinton feels so encouraged that they would continue as an independent candidate. “I pray that we collect enough money to contribute to the message,” writes blogger ladyhawkke on the PUMA site. “The election of Obama will sound the death knell of the United States that we know and where we so love,” she ends dramatically. Hundreds of others wish the PUMA’s strength. “Thanks for drawing a line and defending them,” writes “expatriot ‘. That this lobbying downright bad for the unity within the Democratic Party and the aura – Obama stood yesterday in the polls for the first time behind John McCain – will the PUMA’s worst orphans.

Point

Indeed, founder Darragh Murphy, a frêle blonde in their thirties, still prefer that McCain wins than Obama. She calls on Democrats in november whether to stay at home, either on an independent candidate to vote for McCain either choosing. In protest. As one of FOX-TV interviewer asked her if she is willing to have a Republican president, only to a point to make, she replied: “Yes, it’s an important point that we make. The Democratic Party will win only if it represents the whole coalition. ”

And so the PUMA’s put everything on everything, for Monday. On their website is an extensive responsibilities for the Denver-volunteers. “Jessi ensures the posters and T-shirts, Igor for the security … and MP ensures that nobody is crazy. “

#868 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 9:00 am

#866 Alice Rodham Puma I don’t remember saying that, geez, now I’ve gone national too! It may have been something I copied from somewhere but, certainly, I didn’t use those words, although it doesn’t matter, the whole world knows about us.

#869 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 9:00 am

Is anyone having problems with the site “locking” up? It could just be my computer. Thanks

#870 mimi1020 on 08.22.08 at 9:07 am

Good Morning Guys!

I am on pins and needles awaiting any news on that law suit. Do you guys think it will go through?

#871 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 9:07 am

Good Morning Ladyhawke – PUMAs International Star!!

#872 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 9:11 am

Gypsy – I am so excited that you are having a little baby !!! My “Tiny Dancer” is 2 and not so tiny at 15hands , and I am ready for another one !! Of course I would just ruin it like I did Tiny , who has no idea she is a horse !

#873 Caracal Carrie on 08.22.08 at 9:13 am

awwww thas my little Tiny …chasing me across the feild cause she wanted more pets.!!

#874 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 9:16 am

Carrie , LOL !

#875 slyt2 on 08.22.08 at 9:18 am

#869 mimi1020 I hear you, It is all I have been thinking about too, I tried to just forget about it encase it doesn’t happen but I find myself looking at the clock non stop.

#876 emme on 08.22.08 at 9:19 am

#122 Maryland PUMA – “We have unidentified trolls among us … We have no way of knowing who is legitimate and who is not so I suggest we err on the side of caution. Report your suspicions to a moderator via email. Do not converse with or react to one you suspect.”

Thank you!

#877 mimi1020 on 08.22.08 at 9:20 am

#874 slyt2

I know – ME TOO!

God I hope it’s true

#878 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 9:22 am

Mimi , I am praying that it does go through . …

#879 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 9:23 am

I wish we had more lawyers in more states filing the same type of suit .

#880 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 9:23 am

Good morning PUMAS:

#864 NJ1313, someone wrote last night that the media was contacted about the law suit and today it’s suppose to hit the air waves. Do you know anything about this?

#881 mccaindemo on 08.22.08 at 9:25 am

Hi…I ordered 2 mugs in June when they becme available and haven’t received them…wh should I contact? Thanks!

#882 1gypsy4mc on 08.22.08 at 9:27 am

871 TexasTigress

Horses are fun no matter what size. This is foal #6 for this year. We lost one.

I let them be babies for awhile and don’t put much pressure on them at first, so I kinda spoil them also.

I only have one quarter mare – 30 years old and she visits the minis when she can – she’s free in the pasture and can visit when she wants – of course she’s always up for dinner and her stall (left open).

#883 slyt2 on 08.22.08 at 9:27 am

Ok this is a weird message I got back when I did my emails yesterday to SuperD’s had to share.

ferncr@aol.com
to me

It was a 6 month primary. I’m with Barack

6 month primary huh news to me, he sent it thru his blackberry

#884 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 9:28 am

Turn on Fox, coming after commerical, What happens with Hillary’s supporters if she isn’t the VP pick.

#885 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 9:30 am

#853 TrishfromCanada …

Wanted to let you know my followup comment about “vague” was about some of the posts last night not giving information to check out for ourselves.

I’d prefer to agree by confirmation – not acclamation. Although, I do sometimes miss the mark on that myself.

#886 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 9:33 am

Have a good day everyone! I’ll check back and see what’s going on later.

#887 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 9:38 am

Arrgggg, Fox announces what is coming up after the commerical then talks about something else…sorry if anyone is waiting due to my previous post!

#888 SunnyPA on 08.22.08 at 9:39 am

Good Morning Everyone.
Again, anyone in or traveling to Denver for the convention, our prayers and best wishes are with you. Those of us who can’t go will be there in spirit. We will do everything we can outside of Denver to keep the fight going.

LadyHawke, I’m at work therefore have to jump on and off. Whenever at new post goes up, I think whoever’s first should repost #841.

I have been redoing PUMAPac prowls and whatever other action alerts that come my way. It’s difficult for me to keep up with the posts, so if anyone is putting together a prowl please email me prowlsunny@gmail.com.

Thank you.

Everyone have A great PUMA day.

#889 shampoovta on 08.22.08 at 9:43 am

Good mourning PUMAS!!!!

I feel so good this mourning! I can’t wait to slam him on his VP pick. I have already got my game plane.

1. Hillary: should have ben president not VP ( Cart be for horse)

2. Biden: Politics – Biden Screws It Up Early
If there was a Political Darwin Award, Senator Joe Biden would have just won it. In a most incredible act of stupidity, Biden said publicly that Barack Obama is “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.” He later claimed that he didn’t mean to say it quite that way. Apparently, he originally intended to say, “All them other nigras is stinky and ignunt.” http://intimationsofubiquity.blogspot.com/2007/02/politics-biden-screws-it-up-early.html

3 Governor Tim Kaine: “I don’t believe immigration is one of the top issues in Virginia if you ask Virginians,”

According to an estimate of the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2005 there were an estimated 250,000 to 300,000 illegal aliens living in Virginia, ranking 10th in the U.S. in PEW estimates.2/

FAIR estimates in 2004 that the taxpayers of Virginia spent $452.9 million per year on illegal aliens in public schools.3/ http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_researchba6f

4 Sen. Evan Bayh. You just hope that we haven’t soured an entire generation on the necessity, from time to time, of using force because Iraq has been such a debacle. That would be tragic, because Iran is a grave threat. They’re everything we thought Iraq was but wasn’t. They are seeking nuclear weapons, they do support terrorists, they have threatened to destroy Israel, and they’ve threatened us, too.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/08/stop_obamabayh/

He has taken to long to choose. I have had time to get my ducks in a row.

#890 SunnyPA on 08.22.08 at 9:44 am

#879 TexasTigress

We can file our own legal suits by using the example of the Philly atty.

I have filed several legal motions for myself and others, using real examples. Once or twice times, I’ve successfully followed through and won the case. Mostly, I file motions to stall for time. Judges are always surprised when an individual files a motion….at least they used to be back in my heyday.

#891 SunnyPA on 08.22.08 at 9:46 am

#889 shampoovta

ROFLMAO….you’ve already got the next step planned.

#892 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 9:47 am

Sunny – you are an inspiration :)

#893 Middle age female on 08.22.08 at 9:48 am

Caracal Carrie – have you put out your updated video yet?

#894 utahpuma on 08.22.08 at 9:48 am

#869 1gypsy4mc and all Pumas

Yes, my computer has locked up on this site. I believe
it’s due to the opposition. I had to restore my computer back a few days before the lock ups started and it’s fine for now. Desperation and panic take many positions.

#895 NewOrleansPuma on 08.22.08 at 9:49 am

EVERYONE; The next move by the Momiba campaign and the Democratic Party et al to entice support for Bojina, is the use of Sycomphantic Seduction. This has begun here, in other places and will continue.
Stay focused, alright. Stay focused on how powerful this Pac is and how much its voice needs to be diluted in order to seduce Traditional Dem voters to follow the yellow brick road and join the sycophants of the DNP, and others. Sycophantic Seduction is always the move of manipulators and power mongers when direct confrontation doesn’t get the job done.

#896 zephyr on 08.22.08 at 9:50 am

#873 Caracal Carrie…hope you got some sleep!!!!

I sent you a picture…did you get it and can you post the video link again…is it updated??? Thanks.

#897 Caracal Carrie on 08.22.08 at 9:50 am

Still doing the text..almost done with it!

#898 Caracal Carrie on 08.22.08 at 9:51 am

I dont see it zeph

can you resend?

#899 pink puma on 08.22.08 at 9:51 am

mccain is chipping away at obamas hispanic support..
on thursday key colorado hispanic leaders came out in support of john mccain …
that’s very bad news for the obama campaign..

#900 kat in your hat on 08.22.08 at 9:53 am

Caracal Carrie:

You are the best! I wonder if I would be able to make a youtube video…never tried. But LOOK, it obviously takes so much work! Youtubers who make videos probably appreciate other videos in a different way, ya think? Because they really really know how much time went into it.

#901 Right to Vote on 08.22.08 at 9:54 am

I can accommodate 3 more females if needed. At the mean time, I am looking for 1 more person to ride with us from San Jose,CA. to share expenses. We are leaving on this SAT 23, and leave Denver Aug 31 on Sunday, because we want to go sight seeing after the convention. If you need more info, you may email gotodenver@pumapac.org, ask the coordinator to send your request to me.

#902 zephyr on 08.22.08 at 9:55 am

Caracal Carrie….just resent the picture….Zephyr is in subject line….not in email addy. Hope you get it!

#903 kat in your hat on 08.22.08 at 9:55 am

#899: Yes, that is bad, I was startled when someone in a chat says he is losing points in New York! That’s very serious.

Normally, all these “worrisome for Obama” polls and articles would delight me, but it puts me on edge, because I am afraid Hillary will be his VP because of it. I feel so anxious.

#904 zephyr on 08.22.08 at 9:56 am

Oh…and Caracal…I used the witchway2go at hotmail

Is that the right email???

#905 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:00 am

I just got done sending all the supers e-mails asking them to cast their votes for Sen. Clinton on the first ballot. It was a huge list and I’m glad to be done with it as I have other work to do at my house.
Kerry’s came back and said his e-mail is not working now and to contact him thru his website: kerry.senate.gov
Of course you have to live there, so I found Jefferson Village Apts, 1296 Worcester Road Framingham, MA 01702. HYou can use their phone number also (50*) 872-8851. Kerry said thank you, he will get back to me in a week or so. According to jbjd, MS is obligated to vote for Hillary on the first ballot.

Also, I don’t want Hillary as VP, that’s all I’m hearing

#906 SunnyPA on 08.22.08 at 10:00 am

#892 TexasTigress

LOL. Thanks … I don’t know about inspiration though. With limited financial means, sometimes I have to do things for myself.

#907 mimi1020 on 08.22.08 at 10:00 am

Ed Hale is shutting down his website, claiming the trolls have won….Anyone know what happened?

#908 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:01 am

Sorry, phone for Jefferson Village is (508) 872-8851

#909 kat in your hat on 08.22.08 at 10:01 am

#901:

I think there are a lot of Californians from the Bay Area at Clinton Democrats. I remember they held a protest against Brazile in San Fran. Maybe post there?

(Very nice of you to offer)

#910 kat in your hat on 08.22.08 at 10:01 am

#907: No way.

#911 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:02 am

#907 mimi2020 I have no idea what happened. I was on the show last night and talked to him. No mention made of that, also, someone whose son is in Iraq contributed $500 towards their Denver trip. This is so wierd, I’ve e-mailed him and MommaE, no word yet what happened.

#912 mimi1020 on 08.22.08 at 10:04 am

#911 ladyhawkke

if you find out anything, please let us know. Maybe he got a death threat

#913 lisa on 08.22.08 at 10:06 am

#858jbjd

I AM SO PROUD OF YOU! You are working your fluffy tail off and getting so much done. We all really appreciate it. This is making a HUGE difference! thank you.

#914 tillerylakelady on 08.22.08 at 10:06 am

Good morning Pumas,
The white Powder that was sent to McCains offices was sent by a Man in Prision . And I wish Fox would quit trying to push Hillary as Obamas VP. Hillary is over qualified to be his VP

#915 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:07 am

Ladyhawkke, Ed just notified me that he is shutting down the show and the site.

#916 Oneof18million cracks... on 08.22.08 at 10:07 am

Fox news just reported the person who sent the envelope with white powder and threatening letter to the Colorado Mc Cain headquarters yesterday is.
A prison inmate in Colorado.

The white powder was NOT threatening.

#917 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 10:08 am

#906 SunnyPA, what part of PA are you in? I’m in NE Ohio but border West PA.

#918 lisa on 08.22.08 at 10:08 am

okay, at the risk of getting yelled at I am going to post this anyway. I missed most of last night- I just had to step away and missed the whole “paulhillary” exchange, but read it this morning.

this is from paulhillary yesterday:

There is no answer at Phil’s office and it says in 30 minutes and was released quite some time ago…I feel as though this is a red hearing….Cause the courthouse would be closed by now!

okay…now there is no way that PaulHillary works at friendsofhillary office.

A “RED HEARING”? that should have been “red herring”.

And to write “CAUSE” instead of “because”?

Also his overuse of exclamation points.

This is a young kid without a tremendous amount of education. The competition to work that close to Hillary would guarantee that someone with a better education would hold such a position. Also, the whole “I have an imac with such and such photo” whatever he said on it.

This is a young bot.

He doesn’t seem like a bad kid, but let’s be careful about who we listen to.

Sorry… had to get my two cents in and I will drop it now.

#919 mimi1020 on 08.22.08 at 10:09 am

#915 vadaryl

But Why?

#920 Notyoursweetie on 08.22.08 at 10:10 am

For fun: this short video amounts to a dramatization of the McCain-Bo race
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/obama-vs-mccain-dramatization/

#921 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 10:10 am

#914 tillerylakelady, I hope the law suit that was suppose to filed yesterday against Obama will stop him cold in his tracks then Hillary will be the nominee and she will pick her own VP.

#922 Maryland PUMA on 08.22.08 at 10:11 am

Good Morning everyone.

Working on a new thread!

Murphy says hi to everyone and that she’ll be on in a couple of hours.

I have much to do today to prepare for my 5 am flight out tomorrow so keep the claws in the paws and get busy!

If you still have SD/D prowls – redo them today. Keep those at work informed by posting TV news bites here.

Network in your neighborhoods to gather people for the candlelighting on Monday night.

Offer support to those going to Denver.

Call your delegates and make sure they know where you stand.

Call or email or fax Hillary’s Campaign office to let them know you support her. Do this EVERY DAY until the nomination is decided. Flood her with your support.

Much to do PUMAs.

Get busy!

#923 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:12 am

I don’t know if there will be a show tonight or not but his site will shut down on Aug. 24th.

#924 tillerylakelady on 08.22.08 at 10:13 am

#899PinkPuma<
That is great news,I have an adopted Hispanic son and he has been telling me that the Hispanic people he works with are all pro McCain. I was really worried about the Hispanic vote out side of NC. YOU JUST MADE MY CUP OF COFFEE a WHOLE LOT BETTER. ha ha

#925 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 10:13 am

#918 lisa, I agree with you. About a week ago Murphy had to get rid of someone on the blog who was a troll and was causing too many problems and the person said “I will be back with a different name!”. Hmmm, makes me wonder if that is who PaulHillary is.

#926 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:13 am

This is what ed says on the hompage: This web site will shut down on Augsut 24, 2008. I am no longer in the fight and all the troll have won. I am finished with this war.
God bless you all and Good Luck
Ed Hale

#927 Maryland PUMA on 08.22.08 at 10:15 am

PER MURPHY:

When the new thread opens, please leave the discussions about members in this one.

There is too much to do to be distracted or sidetracked by suspicion.

Let’s keep the energy positive and the blogs productive.

#928 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:16 am

Maryland – AMEN !!!!!

#929 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:16 am

Fox is absolutely giving XO tons of free press, they have everyone on alert, I haven’t tuned in to CNN or MSNBC but I imagine it’s the same. Don’t they have any other news other than this? I just had to turn them off, I’n not watching any more news until I get stuff done, it’ very distracting.

#930 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:16 am

Ed is playing a good-bye tape and the reason why

#931 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:17 am

his dog passed away too.

#932 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:18 am

vadaryl , will you please sum up what Ed says for us ?

#933 hillfan4mccain on 08.22.08 at 10:18 am

#927 Maryland

Oh Thank God

#934 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:18 am

#926 Vadaryl That is so wierd, you were there last nite? Can’t imagine what happened. I do know MommaE was on for a minute and left in a huff. Maybe it’s the expense of keeping the site open. He told me he had 2 radio shows but I don’t know what the other one is.

#935 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:18 am

I think you should hear this yourself, it’s heartwarming.

#936 Seattlegirl on 08.22.08 at 10:19 am

I have REAL trolls hanging out in the dungeon. Care to address this one?:

“Oh my god, who are you crazy women? Don’t you realize that by not voting for Obama you are voting for McCain? If you are fine with that, then you should not call yourself democrats. A vote for McCain is a vote against a woman’s right to choose. Did you know that McCain voted AGAINST legislation ensuring equal pay for women? If Hilary is endorsing Obama, why can’t you follow her lead? This site makes me sick and represents EXACTLY what is wrong with the democratic party. If you are upset with the system, try to get Instant Runoff Voting legalized in your state, but don’t hurt us all by helping get another Republican in the White house.

Well here is my answer to this troll. Who decided that abortion rights are the only issue of importance to women? Birth Control has improved in it’s safety, availability and effectiveness in the last 40 years. There should be less unwanted pregnancys. Add to that the fact that reproductive rights are not an issue for women over 45 and half of all women in this country are older than 45. So since I am an old broad now I see a non sexist media and the ability of a qualified woman to run for office without have sexist slurs thrown at her by members of her own party as the most important womans issues.

No one tells me how to vote. I would have loved to vote for Hillary but she does not own my vote.

I am voting for McCain and I am happy with that vote. Far more happy than with my vote for Kerry. I don’t need to pass your purity test to be called a Democrat. In fact you naive BO people need to wake up and figure out you are not going to win the White house with only the votes of the pure like yourself. You are going to need a lot of the ideologically impure to follow you. For my part I have been called so many names by you pure bloods that anywhere you go I’m heading the other way as the company couldn’t be worse.

Did you know that Mc Cain pays his female staff higher salary’s than BO? Did you know that in Congress bills are sometimes loaded up with irrelevant garbage and that is often why people vote against them? Not because they don’t support the idea but because it is a bad bill? Have you read wht is said about Hillary and the people who voted for her on mainstream Dem sites? Are you concerned about that vile sexism?

And finally I can vote for whomever I like and when BO loses the election that will not be my fault or the fault of Hillary. I know many men in the MSM and Dem party immediately look around for a woman to blame all their problems on but that is crap. When BO loses it will be the fault of the BO and the DNC and the Hate spewing men who follow him.

#937 tillerylakelady on 08.22.08 at 10:19 am

# 921 GO-OHIO-LADY,
I got my fingers crossed
I hope that this Attorney is Legit. Did ya’ll see that McCains camp has the Rescoe Videos hitting the airwaves? And also last night they showed us the new video on William Ayers and Obama. AS they say around here “The sh*** about to hit the fan.

#938 SunnyPA on 08.22.08 at 10:20 am

#917 go_Ohio_Lady
I’m in Pittsburgh

#918 lisa
I’ve got your back on this one, Lisa. Personally, I don’t think it’s PaulHillary’s fault. As soon as he identified himself, people jumped on it as truth. I was astound at what people were asking him (and believing) without any verification.

Someone once said that there is only a handful of people they trust on this blog. I feel the same way. My daily prayer is that everyone is doing the prowls and has the same goals. As long as that happens, we’re good.

#939 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:20 am

I had no clue but thought something was up. I am glad I did not know that MommaE had quit in the first hr. I don’t think I could of done it.

#940 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:20 am

UGGGGHHHH . …. I can’t get the radio stuff on my computer … :(

#941 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:21 am

It got ugly at 9:30 each night this week.

#942 4hillinca on 08.22.08 at 10:21 am

#927 Amen!!
Okay gang….we have to stay positive and focused. We must continue our battle, it is not over yet. There is much we can be doing today. I have stopped even watching FOX and I have emailed them because it seems they have become just like the other stations. Many are traveling so please be safe. It is a new day so lets make it count.

#943 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:23 am

#932 TexasTigress I know he is hurting over his Dog’s death. Please listen to his good-bye speech. He is very upset.

#944 wontbackdown on 08.22.08 at 10:24 am

Ran across another site yesterday that publicized some emails between the party’s at Ed’s site.

I won’t post it because it would not be beneficial to us or them.

That’s, what happens when “disagreements” go too far and other’s jump in to what should be worked out behind the scenes instead of out in “public”.

#945 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:25 am

This election is doing so much damage to people. It’s sad.

#946 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 10:26 am

#938 SunnyPA, I’m in Youngstown, 65 miles from you. I would love to attend anything going on with the PUMAS in your area. There doesn’t seem to be anyone in my area except me.

#947 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:26 am

943 vadaryl Thanks , but I can’t listen to anything on my computer … I have been completely dependent on Pumas for keeping me posted on Ed and Mama’s broadcasts .. I think we should light a candle for them though …

#948 lisa on 08.22.08 at 10:27 am

We are going to get hit hard by trolls this next week. It is hard not to respond, but it takes energy away from what we need to be doing. (yeah, I am as guilty as the next puma who has to get her comebacks in.)
i VOW to not respond in this next week to anyone with kool-aid on their breath! LOL

SOOO excited. It looks like Obadass might be hauled away in handcuffs before this election is over. LOVE IT.

#949 pamawo on 08.22.08 at 10:27 am

#927 Yes!

#950 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:28 am

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc

#951 pink puma on 08.22.08 at 10:28 am

re#945
i agree..ive never seen an election that has so polarized and made people angry

#952 fedup144 on 08.22.08 at 10:29 am

Tune into FOX news now. They are saying something about Hillary being the comeback kid and possibly making the biggest comeback in politcal history and something about womething obama said this morning.It wil be on in a minute

#953 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:30 am

#947 TexasTigress There are things that happened behind the scenes and I prefer you hear it from them so it does not get misunderstood. Sorry if it sounds like I am avoiding your question.

#954 kids1627 on 08.22.08 at 10:30 am

some would like nothing better than to break up are pac so I say lets just not answer anyone we don’t understand or feel is a troll . No big deal except I did chew my husbands head off this am not something that happens that often cause he’s a man that will even clean the bathroom and wipe the bottom of the toilet if you know what I mean he’s in a mood to because he is a big Hillary supporter .

#955 4hillinca on 08.22.08 at 10:31 am

#945 and #951
I agree also. We were cheated out of our vote. The DNC felt they could make up a candidate that would “change” the world and now they have (hopefully) realized they are wrong. People are finally standing up for what they feel is right!! They never expected this. The more they try to silence us the louder we roar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#956 greenfun on 08.22.08 at 10:31 am

BO outspent McCain 2-1 in advertising, plus all the free publicity on his ego tour. Dead heat in the polls.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Obama attracting 45% of the vote John McCain earns 43%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 47% and McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day. Polling data for the Presidential race in Indiana will be released at noon Eastern today.

#957 Caracal Carrie on 08.22.08 at 10:33 am

Im sorry if it is taking me a long time to answer…I am juggling programs

I got it Zeph thanks!!

#958 vadaryl on 08.22.08 at 10:33 am

#952 fedup144 since we can’t see fox on the web please keep us informed on what they say.

#959 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:33 am

Ed is practically crying and carrying on, you have to go there and click to listen. It’s too much to go thru to put here. hcsfjm.com You don’t need a password, just your e-mail and connect

#960 SunnyPA on 08.22.08 at 10:33 am

#946 go_Ohio_Lady

Sure, that will be nice. I used to live in Akron before moving to Pittsburgh 5 years ago. I still go to Akron every other week to attend church.

There probably won’t be any events until after the convention, but I’ll be happy to let you know.

#961 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:34 am

953 vadaryl no worries at all . It isn’t important to know WHY this is happening , only that it is … I lit a candle for them and that is good enough for me . I am certain that more information would only send me into a rage anyway .

#962 doria on 08.22.08 at 10:35 am

This from NoQuarter:

A Retraction »
By SusanUnPCcloseAuthor: SusanUnPC Name:
Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
Site: http://noquarterusa.net/
About: See Authors Posts (1276) on August 21, 2008 at 10:22 PM in Hillary Clinton | 175 Comments

Recently we published a video of a PUMA member who claimed that the PUMA groups had raised approximately $10 million to help Hillary Clinton retire her debt. We are not sure how that amount was calculated. The actual amount raised in June was $2.7 million. We are 100% certain that the $10 million claim was sincere. However, it possibly harmed the campaign’s efforts to retire the debt because many people believed the claim, and were led to assume that she was well on her way to putting the debt behind her. Obviously that isn’t the case. You may donate to Hillary Clinton here.

#963 ladyhawkke on 08.22.08 at 10:40 am

#947 Texas Tigress You can get the ATI catalyst Media center and it’s easy to put on your computer. You do have to open up your computer and put the media card in and then install the program into your computer. I would call ATI and ask them which one to use for your system. I bought the wrong one because I have HP Media Center. I can listen but can’t capture videos or record. I’m going to get another one but this works fine when I’m online.

#964 go_Ohio_Lady on 08.22.08 at 10:40 am

OMG, did anyone just hear what Fox reported about the passes to be used in Denver. Obama said, “The flag is not upside down it’s just an artists rending to blend in with my shirt”. Now our flag has to go with Obama’s shirt. Wow, unblievable!

#965 NoMoreInFL on 08.22.08 at 10:42 am

Good morning PUMAS! Just got back up and finally caught up reading…

Hillary in 2008!

#966 mzebest on 08.22.08 at 10:42 am

I just came on quick (before I leave for work) to mention that Fox this morning (just before 7 am PST) had Gary Mauro on again and Mauro talked about how unusual it is that Clinton is out campaigning for Obama. How she’s done more than any candidate in history. How Howard Dean was never out campaigning for the other nominees weeks before the convention. I love that guy.

#967 pink puma on 08.22.08 at 10:43 am

re#964
when are the american people finally going to get it through their thick skulls that obama is just a damn liar??

#968 TexasTigress on 08.22.08 at 10:44 am

Ladyhawkke – thanks , I will get my IT expert on it ( carrie ) :)

#969 4hillinca on 08.22.08 at 10:44 am

#964
Well it does not surprise me. He has no idea how many states there are so how would he know anything about our flag. The man is going down. I am off to email delegates and say no to VP Hillary must be on top of ticket for Dems to win

#970 MadLogic on 08.22