Last Chance Super Delegates!
And on another note, What El Paso said:
The PUMA PAC BAD GUY LIST
To each and every elected official on the list below, you took money from Barack Obama and George Soros and as a thank you, gave BO your support. Well, your constituents want Hillary Clinton and we do too!
Vote for her in Denver or we will not re-elect you. That is 4,500,000 MINIMUM Americans who will knock you out of your function in November. Do you really want to take that chance?
NO MORE MS GOOD GIRLS!!
Now here is the list:
All these names pertain to BOUGHT elected officials. Next to the names is how much they received as well as where the money came from:
Obama paid: $11,500 Carol Shea Porter NH $12,500 Rep Baron Hill IN $4,200 Sen Jeff Bingaman NH $11,000 Ron Klein Fl $9,000 Sen Frank Lautenberg NJ $7,500 Rep Joe Donnelly IN $5,000 Re. Gerald McNerney CA $10,000 Rep.Jason Altmire PA $5,000 Niki Tsongas MA $4,000 Rep. Dennis Cardoza $9,000 Rep Gabrielle Giffords AZ $4,000 Rep. Jim Costa $7,500 Rep. Zack Space OH $7,000 Rep. Charles Wilson OH $5,000 Sen Jay Rockefeller WV Pelosi paid $2,500 John Adler NJ $10,000 Jason Altmire PA $10,000 Andre Carson IN $10,000 Joe Donnelly IN $10,000 Gabrielle Giffords AZ $10,000 Baron Hill IN $10,000 Ron Klein FL $10,000 Tim Mahoney FL $10,000 Harry Mitchell AZ $10,000 Patrick Murphy AZ $10,000 Joe Sestack PA $10,000 Carol Shea Porter NH $10,000 Zach Space OH $10,000 Niki Tsongas MA $7,500 Nick Lampson"
818 comments ↓
Am I first!
Wow I can’t believe it. I am so sorry to hear about Stephanie Tubbs.
YOOOOO WHOOOO where is everyone? Good morning PUMAs.
I called her office and the family requested no info to be put out. We should watch the news.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng
I started a new thread for Tubb-Jones, “STJ” so use it if you light a candle.
I’m in Cleveland, no new word on Stephanie Tubbs Jones.
REPOST FROM KERRI DOWNSTAIRS
Kerri on 08.20.08 at 4:47 am
Any PUMA’s who are seeking lodging in Denver:
I have found a residence wich can hold any number of people, 3-6, actually, for the price of 50 dollars per person per night. Apparently they are HRC supporters and thus we get a “bargain” rate. Heh, if you ask me, the Coloradians are making a killing!
But, that is neither here nor there! The price is true, as I’ve been searching for days now! LOL This situation has a two large and real beds, two rooms, plus a kitchen area and private bathrooms and entrances.
If you’re interested contact the “host” at mbarfels over at comcast dot net. Also, if you’d be so good as to just drop ME a line to let me know how many spaces you’ve booked, as I’m trying to keep track of such options for other PUMA’s in need of shelter. As ever, I’m reachable at Kerriwyn and that’s over on aol
Alright then.
PS. If someone here is currently ON when the morning thread goes up, if you’d be kind enough to copy this post for the next shift? Thank you.
Good Morning PUMA’S,
I did my own prowl this morning and I hope you will join me in writing to Coward Dean and D. Brazille. Here is my quick note to them:
Polls show that Obama is slipping every day against McCain. Why would you jeopardize the country and the party and put up a weaker candidate who will most likely lose in November? You have the power to change this outcome by encouraging the delegates to vote for Hillary. She won the popular vote by over 300,000 votes! She is the only candidate who can win back the white house. I will never vote for the “selected” Obama. He does not have the experience that is needed to lead our country. This is not American Idol. This is the toughest job in the world. You are hand delivering the position to Senator McCain. There is still time to do the right thing. Put the country first!
Be courageous! We will remember come November!
Sincerely,
xxxxxxx
Blackwood, NJ
Puma (ex)democrat
What has happened to Stephanie Tubbs Jones? I heard her speak at the debacle RBC meeting in May and she is very impressive.
UK article….author doesn’t seem too impressed with bo
http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/892826/america-is-still-the-nation-whose-eyes-say-yes.thtml
*** PUMA VIDEO MESSAGE FOR HILLARY ***
1of18million suggested putting together a video of PUMAs.
Caracal Carrie, witchway2go@hotmail.com, is accepting submissions for inclusion into the You Tube video.
If you want to send a personal message to Hillary this is the time to do it. You can attach a picture of yourself or of another image that reflects what you wrote. Please keep your message to no more than three sentences.
This will be played on our plasmas along with other member submitted videos at our locations in Denver.
If you want to video record a personal message to Hillary – contact Trish to get it on our You Tube channel.
Still looking for pics if anyone has any! I need to get the vid done today so drop me an email if you have anything at all you want to add. I am getting great graphics and images as well as pics. I dont have as many as I need yet so send anything you want to add.
Thanks!
Only Hill
she was found unconcious behind the wheel of her moving car…that’s all we know…yes she is quite impressive!
Click here: State politics smitten with incurable plague :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Carol Marin .
This article in todays paper shows you how Chicago style politics are done. The city and state are corrupt.
The head of IL Senate is a political mentor to Obama.
The national press is not reporting the facts. If Obama becomes President we all are in trouble.
Been reading a little about supporting the dem ticket if Hillary is VP…I just can’t do it for four major reasons.
First: The DNC may force the issue of her being named VP to placate her supporters, BUT there’s NO GUARANTEE she will ever get the chance to step up to the presidency. He will just be allowed to surf into the oval office ON HER REPUTATION WHICH HE DOES NOT DESERVE!
Secondly: In the meantime (possibly indefinitely) we would be in the dangerous position of having BO for president.
Thirdly: The DONC would get away with pulling off this hijacking of democracy, and think this deception is all acceptable as long as your lying and pandering gets you what you want.
Fourthly: Who’s to say when he goes down the tubes (which according to Reuters, is already starting to happen in a big way) he won’t take Hillary down with him if she’s on the same ticket?
NO! The only acceptable ticket for my vote is a clean nomination of the best candidate with NO OBAMA anywhere on it! There is too much at stake. Loyalty is to COUNTRY FIRST! And I can’t be a party to it’s unraveling.
Good morning Pumas – was saddened to hear the news about Stephanie Tubb Jones – hope she recovers quickly and well
Just a point to remember – the DNC does not really care if Dems win the White House this year – they figure they will control the Congress and pick up more support – they are mainly looking for NEW voters (all those republicans for a day & young voters) – they are anticipating all the money that will come flowing in – good luck with that one – also, the reason *61 is texting his vp selection is so they can harvest all those cell phone numbers – use your imagination as to what they will do with them – I don’t think young voters have a lot of money but hey what do I know – only what I read in the papers & hear MSM say and of course, what I read on the blogs -
Unless a miracle happens, I don’t see Hillary on the ticket this November nor do I see Dems winning the White House – of course, it will be her fault if the immature, inadequate and unqualified piece of crap loses, but who said life is fair especially with no objective journalists left in this country…………
Had thought I would be going to Denver but looks like that plan has fallen thru so will be blogging here to find out how everything goes – wish I could be there
Im sorry I do not know how to create a link. But the article is truly worth reading. hope somebody else would go to article and post the link here .thanks
did tubbs car crash into something?
#14 notfollowinthepiedpiper, I totally agree…Obama shouldn’t even be on the ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!
fox was giving BOs down numbers a bit of attention going wrong way and his unfavorable went way up
16 chicago4truth once you get it ,,,its easy…. i copy and paste more than it type..lol
How To Copy and Paste:
Take your mouse, and place your cursor at the beginning of the text in the box below, then click and hold the left mouse button, while pulling your mouse over the text. This should highlight the text. Now release the left mouse button. Now, with the cursor over the highlighted text, right click the mouse for options, and select ‘copy’. Now over the empty box below, right click your mouse again, and select ‘paste’ and you will have copied and pasted the text.
#15 Susie1945, that is why we need to work down ticket to see that Pelosi, Gerry and people that are going against the will of the people……LOSE!!!
Chicago4Truth Could not click on a link! Help!
Used to live in Chicago Heights and work in Chicago. I go back all the time to visit friends and family.
16 chicago4truth
http://www.webmasternow.com/copyandpaste.html
15 Susie1945
“they are mainly looking for NEW voters (all those republicans for a day & young voters) – they are anticipating all the money that will come flowing in -”
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Yea , we all know , students , the homeless, criminals in jails, and unemployed have a lot of money.
************ALERT**********ALERT**********
Daily tracking polls have McCain up by 5 points
Woooooooooooo yepi kiya
I think thats they way to spell it!!!
chicago4truth…links are easy. open the artcle. the link for it then appears in your web browser . highlight, copy, then paste in comment box
prowlland I can get th ecopy paste stuff unless I have to bring up new page than what?? sorry didnt see it in book for dummys LOL
Jane-pa
The police were appartenly trying to pull her over for erratic driving when they realized she was slumped over. they somehow managed to get her car to stop in a field.
I just popped in to take a peak at Hillarys website. She is still asking for donations to pay down her debt. I thought her debt was paid? Does anyone have any numbers on this? Seems strange to me no one is posting what the numbers are.
H O L Y C O W If that don’t wake up the DNC their brain dead McCain up by 5 points on fox
Poll shows McCain in 5-point lead over Obama
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true
Obama’s support among Democrats fell 9 percentage points this month to 74 percent, while McCain has the backing of 81 percent of Republicans. Support for Obama, an Illinois senator, fell 12 percentage points among liberals, with 10 percent of liberals still undecided compared to 9 percent of conservatives.
Obama & his people
(if he gets the wh)
I believe
could be the artificers
of the down fall of USA
as it stands today
numbers should come out today
Good Morning Folks.
Only have a minute. Again wanted to say how proud I am to be a PUMA and hope everything goes well in Denver. I really wish I could be there (no leave time).
I’m still doing as much prowling as possible…letters to editors, pledged delegates, some superdelegates, and anyone else that comes to mind that can impact the convention.
Everyone have a great day.
by now gotta get back to work
jane…don’t understand your question sorry
queen thanks
I got it thanks taffy
Hopefully by the beginning of the convention…*61 will be down by 15 points! I take back the hope…he will be down 15 points! Will make the SD’s job easier to switch.
If one stops to think about all of this ’stuff’ – it really is depressing………………..and I still can’t understand how the DNC was able to brainwash so many people into believing *61 is the ’savior and leader’ of our party……….
I am hoping that there are alot of delegates out there who have backbones and balls who will stand up against the DNC leaders and “throw the bums out’ – if not, there will be no support from me for any downstream Dems – no matter who they are -
If they don’t have enough sense or integrity to stand up to the abuse that is happening within the party, they sure as hell are not going to be standing up for us…the former backbone & balls of the Democratic Party
Does any one know where I can get the information on how much money those delegates each received from the Pelosi pacs? The ones that should be voting for Clinton but are voting Obama?
As a personal prowl I would like to collect that and forward to MSN. All of this stuff is being under reported and I feel like I have to do something…
#12 queen81
Thank you, so sorry to hear this.
Stephanie is not only impressive but so inspirational—much like her very dear friend Hillary. I had a picture taken with her after she spoke to us at the rally and I was totally impressed with her, she is awesome. I’ll be keeping her in my thoughts and prayers.
jane…i think what you are asking…when you open an article the link for it replaces the blog link in the www space at top. copy the new link than go back to blog page and you can paste it in the comment box. does this help?
Fox will be there through th ewhole convention so if you see there cameras wave and say hi pumas. Thanks LOL
I wonder if Hillary got the new ratings news yesterday and if that had anything to do with her emergency conference with her delegates.
43 yes that was it thanks Taffy
Good Morning
Well the thought of Hillary as VP does not set well with me. I think I will send a polite email off to the delegates letting them know this will not work and I will not fall in line.
This video was just sent to my e-mail. It’s well worth looking at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zZWFd-uqL4&feature=email
haveing trouble getting posted tcb4n
Lady glad to see you were on hope all is well
Good Morning Puma’s
If this question has already been asked, I apologize. Does anyone know what took place with Hillarys SD yesterday? I truly hope she did not release them.
August 20, 2008
Chairman Howard Dean
By Fax: (202) 863-8063
Speaker Nancy Pelosi
By Fax: (202) 225-4188
Chairman Dean and Speaker Pelosi:
Polls show that Obama’s lead is shrinking every day against McCain. His inane answer at Saddleback Church “that is above my pay grade” demonstrates his inability to take a stand and nuance issues. Why would you jeopardize the country and the party and put forth a weak candidate who will most likely lose in November? You have the power to change this outcome by encouraging the delegates to vote for Sen. Clinton. She won the popular vote by over 300,000 votes! She is the only candidate who can win back the White House. I am one of 18 million who will never vote for your “SELECTION.” The DNC has torn the Democratic Party apart by breaking its own rules by awarding Obama uncommitted delegates from Michigan and stealing 4 from Sen. Clinton. Sen. Obama is clearly the most unqualified candidate to be shoved down our throats. He does not have the experience and is unqualified to lead our country. If you want to continue on this path to defeat, then continue to endorse Obama who is not a uniter but a divider by playing the race card. This has irreparably put race back 50 years.
Sen. Clinton’s supporters will not fall in line and we will PUT OUR COUNTRY BEFORE YOUR PARTY! You have given us no choice but to vote for Sen. McCain. We will not condone your back-room dealings and if you allow this injustice to stand, after the November elections, I will change my party to Independent and you have lost me forever.
Take a stand, REINSTATE FLORIDA & MICHIGAN PRIOR TO THE CONVENTION AND VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON IN DENVER.
#40 Susie1945 on 08.20.08 at 10:12 am
I agree w/ you on not voting for downstream Dems as well, if they CHOOSE him . If by some slight of hand, this goofball should win, we will need someone in the congress for for checks and balances.
chicago4truth,
I’m amazed that the MSM have not even mentioned the fact that Emil Jones, Obama’s mentor and the politician who is resonsible for his Senatorial run is being forced to retire because the public has completely turned against him. It’s also amazing because Obama’s buddy, the Il. Governor Blago was boo-ed off stage while speaking at the Illinois State Fair last week. Ironically, it was the state’s union employees that offered the biggest protest.
I am in Springfield and will be dropping in on Obama’s speech Saturday. It’s interesting because he chose to speak on the same day as a blues festival that is ironically happening around the Old State Capital. Again, Obama is scheduling his events around other events that are drawing in crowds. It will also be interesting to see how many busloads of supporters from Chicago will be brought down to give the perception that he has the support of downstate Illinois.
By the way a new article up at PDOP
8 Million Reasons Why Obama Welcomes The Abortion Debate
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/08/8-million-reasons-why-obama-welcomes.html
P.S. Also faxed my letter to Dean& Pelosi to Hillary’s campaign office. Want her to know it’s not over till she says its over!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/1116348,CST-EDT-carol20.article
LadyHawke – great letter!! Sock it to em’!!
50 Mac-
a regular type call to give instructions on how the calendar fo events will unfold for the delegates at the convention and – info on the party platform – according to a delagate i had dinner with
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/bipartisan-praise-from-bill-clinton/#comment-441274
I think i got it . Thanks to all
#51 ladyhawkke – great letter! wish I had written it!
This was posted on RD: release delegates was never mentioned in conference call!!!!
xxxx on August 20th, 2008 at 8:50 am Said:
Well, I MISSED the majority of Sen. Clinton’s call last night (grrrr!!!) but I got a summary from some people. More or less, she asked her supporters to support her at the convention, there will be a delegate room in Denver, there will be HRC “whips” in each state delegation, and of course she reiterates her support for Sen. O.
Basically no news is good news (”release” was NEVER mentioned) and on to Denver!
Anyone who has not seen this yet
I am making a PUMA video for Denver.
You can send me a pic, a message, some kind of graphic, or a combination of any of that. It is ok to send a personal pic, but it doesnt have to be one. It doesnt cost anything at all.
I will put them all together in a video to be played in Denver.
Send anything you want me to add to
witchway2go@hotmail.com
If any of the male Pumas are interested in a video of just the guys to show men can be PUMAs too please let me know.
Also a lot of people are sending me suggestions on songs! Keep em coming!
Im let me know today about the pics! I need to get the video done today. Thanks!
To get financial, FEC Reports (PACS also):
http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/srssea.shtml
Someone previously asked for this info. I got it in an e-mail from Ricki Lieberman (EW):
7. FAXES FOR REPS WHO TOOK $ FROM PELOSI PAC AND ENDORSED BO, ALTHO THEIR DISTRICTS/STATES VOTED FOR CLINTON:
Rep. Baron Hill: 202-226-6886
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter: 202-225-5822
Sen. Jeff Bingaman: 202-224-2852
Sen. Frank Lautenberg: 202-228-4054
Rep. Ron Klein: 202-225-8398
Rep. Joe Donnelly: 202-226-6798
Rep. Gerald McNerney: 202-225-4060
Rep. Jason Altmire: 202-226-2274
Rep. Niki Tsongas: 202-226-0771
Rep. Dennis Cardoza: 202-225-0891
Rep. Gabriella Giffords: 202-225-0378
Rep. Jim Costa: 202-225-9308
Rep. Zack Space: 202-225-3394
Rep. Charlie Wilson: 202-225-5907
Rep. Jay Rockefeller: 202-224-7665
#61prplvette85 Hope is still alive!! On to Denver, Good Luck and God Speed, fellow Pumas!
Article today in Washingtpn Post on O’s internet presence:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/19/AR2008081903186.html?hpid=topnews
I commented with as many No Obama sites as I could find:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/19/AR2008081903186_Comments.html
ID is moyoskinsfan and comments are at very beginning of comment section.
Not many comments; people still do not realize power of PUMAS.
Morning all,
Murphy did you receive my email?
WOW! Good morning Pumas! This place sure is abuzz already. Keep growling!
Prayers going out for Stephanie Tubbs Jones. What a dear lady and a huge Hillary supporter and friend.
Also, I read that Hillary is to be stumping for ‘him’ in Florida on Thursday. I kmnow the FL folks are likely busy right now with Fay, but if you can go see Hillary and give her a warm welcome please do. Just take your earplugs so you do not have to hear all that unity stuff.
And did everyone hear? BIGFOOT was a hoax! LOL Well duh!
HOW TO STOP HARASSMENT OF CLINTON-PLEDGED DELEGATES
BACKGROUND
Some states have enacted laws that bind their pledged delegates to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged as the result of votes cast in the state’s primary or caucus contest, at least through the first round of voting at the party’s Presidential nominating convention. Therefore, in these states, to threaten, pressure, or coerce pledged delegates to vote for a candidate other than the one to whom they are pledged is to solicit them to break the law.
PURPOSE
To stop harassment of Clinton-pledged delegates in those states that have these vote binding laws, notify the Attorney General of your state, someone is breaking the law.
RATIONALE
As has been reported in the press, in states throughout the country, delegates pledged to Clinton are under siege to switch their allegiance to Obama. A CO delegate was summoned into the office of the state chairman to explain the contents of an email she had sent to a fellow delegate, for expressing loyalty to her candidate. (“Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate”) http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_10170139
A MN delegate was stripped of her delegate status. (“Wisconsin Democrats strip woman of delegate position for saying she will vote for McCain”) http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/25908499.html
A KY delegate for Clinton was replaced with a delegate for Obama. (“Clinton supporters protesting removal of delegate at Democratic National Convention”) http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/WHAS11_POLITICS_080814_CLINTONOBAMA.486a4d97.html
There are two sets of ‘rules’ that apply to state pledged delegates. There are the rules written by the Democratic National Committee in the “Call to the Convention”; and there are rules written by states, which are called laws. State laws always trump DNC rules. For example, DNC rules call for pledged delegates to use their “good conscience” to represent the will of the voters. State laws, however, require delegates to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged, at least through the first round of voting at the nominating convention.
Even DNC party ‘elders’ including Governor Ed Rendell (PA), fail to understand the difference between DNC rules and state laws. Speaking with Neil Cavuto on FOX TV, he opined, delegates are not bound to vote for a particular candidate at the convention. ‘There’s no such thing as a “pledged” delegate. We haven’t had a “robot rule” since the Carter Kennedy convention in 1980.’ Since PA is not a vote binding state, we can understand his confusion. But in fact, in these vote-binding states, the word “pledged” means exactly what it says. If even Ed Rendell is unaware some states have enacted vote binding laws, one cannot assume that Clinton’s pledged delegates are aware of such laws.
Evidence indicates that in addition to the DNC, Obama’s campaign has been pressuring Clinton-pledged delegates. For example, here is a portion of the letter sent to delegates throughout the country from Khalil Thompson out of Obama’s Chicago campaign office.
“Updates: Delegate Paperwork
Fill out you National Delegate Web Survey… http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/delegate
This is one for the Obama Campaign, so if you filled it out for the DNC and the State Party, please we the campaign still needs you to do so…
If you have not filled this out you WILL BE MENTIONED on the call, so please take the time to do so…
(“Bearing Witness”)
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/bearing-witness.html
In any other political season, Clinton could hold her delegates’ hands, safely shepherding them through this nasty onslaught to the convention. But not now. Ever since she suspended her campaign, her delegates have been left to fend for themselves. And that’s where you come in. You can let them know: I have your back.
In those states that have enacted vote binding laws, to threaten, pressure, or coerce those pledged delegates to vote for a candidate other than the one to whom they are pledged is to solicit them to break the law. So, turn them in. Write a letter to your Attorney General, the chief law enforcement official in the state. Include the links already provided to just some of the examples of harassment occurring throughout the country. Send a copy to the Office of the Secretary of State, which in most states oversees the political parties’ participation in state elections, including qualifying the party’s candidate to get on the ballot. And, for the record, send a copy to the chair of the state Democratic Party.
©jbjd
Thank you Blue Blue Gal for your answer.
I think the demo party
now @ headquaters in chicago
maybe doing chicago´s ways of politics
it could not be worst
the party could fall apart
because the major part of the party
would not stand for this kind of INDIGENTOUS politics
Hi all,
I have been a member of Puma in Central NJ since about June. I haven’t been involved with the blogs mainly cause I lost my password and have a lot of trouble resetting it. Now I have gmail and just redid it. I will probably not be keeping up with all of you, but I certainly check you out daily. I do most all prowls except the FAX ones (no fax).I am an ex (dem) I changed party affiliation last June. It takes 50 days here in NJ to do so. I worked hard for Hillay making almost 2000 calls for her & loving every minute of it. Can’t make it to Denver but my spirit is with you all.
Take pride PUMA’s, here is a cool video in respons eot the hardball interview, that explains PUMAs and JSND are responsible for getting Hillary’s name on the nomination and for getting Bo ticked off about it.
LOL – Even says how smart Murphy and Will are. gotta love it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fXUqzTj910
TOPIC: CNN’s Poll
Good morning everyone, just bopping in & out to share this newsclip. When CNN finally admits it well, you know the old saying, “Houston, we have a problem!”
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CNN poll of polls: Obama lead cut in half
Posted: 09:23 AM ET
A new CNN poll of polls shows Obama’s lead is dwindling.
(CNN) — In what could be an ominous sign for Barack Obama just days before he is formally named (oops, they meant “hopefully not anointed”) the Democratic presidential nominee, a new CNN poll of polls out Tuesday shows the Illinois senator’s lead over John McCain has been cut in half in recent days.
According to CNN’s average of several recent national surveys, Obama’s lead is now a slim 3 points over the Arizona senator, 46-43 percent — half of his advantage in a CNN poll of polls one week ago, and down from a high of 8 points in mid-July.
Election Center: Check out CNN’s electoral map
The latest poll results come amid increased attacks from McCain on Obama’s readiness to be commander-in-chief and the re-emergence of national security worries among voters in the wake of the Georgia crisis.
“Over the last week, we’ve seen Sen. Obama’s lead in the poll of polls cut in half,” noted CNN Senior Political Researcher Alan Silverleib. “This change was likely driven by a renewed focus on foreign policy after Russia’s invasion of Georgia, as well as by Sen. McCain’s willingness to launch more aggressive attacks against Obama on issues such as off-shore drilling.”
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post-script, I’m not sure why ANYONE would be supporting off-shore drilling anymore, that’s so yesterday! Not a _real_ solution as most Americans know & I certainly hope our Hillary has better plans than that…!!!
70 Mac
you’re welcome
Local Clinton backers, McCain adviser meet
http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/articles/2008/08/20/news/sc_times_trib.20080820.a.pg1.tt20brazil_s1.1888751_top5.txt
The attendees included Tony Rodham, Mrs. Clinton’s youngest sibling, his wife, Megan, and their two children; attorney Kathleen Granahan Kane, who coordinated Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign in Northeast Pennsylvania during the primary election; and Virginia McGregor, sister of Scranton Mayor Chris Doherty.
hmmmm
So many thoughts this morning.
Trish, Go, Caracal, Has anyone used that fabulous song by the Dixie Chicks called “Not Ready To Make Nice”? When I saw Dances’ incredible poster (made me cry) that song came to mind.
Can someone from OH post the address of the hospital where Stephanie Tubbs-Jones is. We need to send get-well cards.
Interesting from Fox/Hannity last night. Karl Rove was discussing BO’s VP picks. When asked to comment on Biden, Bayh, Kaine, and Sebelius, Karl said each of them would fill a narrow Political gap for BO, but what he desperately needed was a VP who was ready to be President…that would be…tada…Hillary Rodham Clinton. People know she is ready to be Commander in Chief. Rove said it! It’s on tape!
Doria
Not ready to make Nice is one of my favorite songs!
#65 ladyhawkke – I believe we will be the ones celebrating in the streets of Denver! We got knocked down right along with Hillary, but we got right back up, and all of our hard work will pay off! We will celebrate as one big PUMA FAMILY in Denver!! keep working, praying and believe….YES WE WILL
The DNC MUST be in panic mode right now.
http://www.tarrance.com/082008/Battleground-35-charts.pdf
National: McCain+1
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true
National: McCain +5
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/ohio/election_2008_ohio_presidential_election
Ohio: McCain+6
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=3c299ac8-437b-4ecc-9f0e-2d2ba6a36e92
Indiana: McCain +6
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Missouri_820.pdf
Missouri: McCain +10.
Wake up, DNC! I hope the Super D’s are watching these polls.
McCain takes 5-point lead over Obama
Poll: Republican seen as a stronger manager of the economy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26308429
Re: Please vote in poll
http://news.aol.com/
A new national poll shows Republican John McCain pulling ahead of Democrat Barack Obama, with a 5-point lead. It’s a sharp turnaround for McCain, who has generally trailed Obama in national polls.
#76 doria
I’ve seen the song by Dixie Chicks used, let me see if I can find it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnbQtutG9tE
For Stephanie Tubbs-Jones get well cards:
Huron Hospital
13951 Terrace Rd
Cleveland, OH 44112
Voted MCR…..McCain well ahead in AOL poll
Here’s another article about McCain pulling ahead of BO with a 5 point lead:
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true
The Polls – The Polls
Wake up Dean – Wake up SD’s
BO CAN NOT WIN!!!
“So, what do YOU think? Who’s he gonna pick?”
Murphy, where have you been… I have already posted my picks several times here.
Again, it’s going to be Kaine.
And McCain will choose Romney.
Pay more attention, kiddo.
These polls are just lovely. And to think, Obama and McCain haven’t even debated, yet. Remember Obama’s last debate with Hillary? hahahaha.
YAHOO!!!! McCain takes lead over Obama!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080820/ts_nm/usa_poll_politics_dc
Come on super delegates…wake up!! you need Hillary!!!
Hillary 08
McCain 08
“The Big Three broadcast networks have showered Obama with positive — even glowing — news coverage, protected the candidates from the attacks of his rivals, and shown little interest in investigating past associations or exploring the controversies that could have threatened his campaign,” the group says.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/20/conservative_group_finds_netwo.html
All of moveon.orgs money, and corrupt media………….and he is still sucking in the polls. tsk,tsk,tsk
48 TrishfromCanada
I love the sign that said:
________________________________
Obama’s Energy Plan
Don’t Drill Oil
Just pump air…
I have the mp3 for Dixie chicks. Who wants it? Email me. marylandpuma@gmail.com
#82 Trish Thank you for the youtube link. Yes! That is our song! I’d love to see it used again with Dances’ poster….”We are the ones no one was expecting”.
Another one with Dixie Chicks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzkyretz6k&feature=related
going to get some sewing done… gotta make teddy bear for granddaughter… promised, but will be checking in on you all…. do the prowls too sometime this afternoon…
You guys are soooooo smart!
And on another note, What NYC Girl said:
The PUMA PAC BAD GUY LIST
To each and every elected official on the list below, you took money from Barack Obama and George Soros and as a thank you, gave BO your support. Well, your constituents want Hillary Clinton and we do too!
Vote for her in Denver or we will not re-elect you. That is 4,500,000 MINIMUM Americans who will knock you out of your function in November. Do you really want to take that chance?
NO MORE MS GOOD GIRLS!!
Now here is the list:
All these names pertain to BOUGHT elected officials. Next to the names is how much they received as well as where the money came from:
Obama paid:
$11,500 Carol Shea Porter NH
$12,500 Rep Baron Hill IN
$4,200 Sen Jeff Bingaman NH
$11,000 Ron Klein Fl
$9,000 Sen Frank Lautenberg NJ
$7,500 Rep Joe Donnelly IN
$5,000 Re. Gerald McNerney CA
$10,000 Rep.Jason Altmire PA
$5,000 Niki Tsongas MA
$4,000 Rep. Dennis Cardoza
$9,000 Rep Gabrielle Giffords AZ
$4,000 Rep. Jim Costa
$7,500 Rep. Zack Space OH
$7,000 Rep. Charles Wilson OH
$5,000 Sen Jay Rockefeller WV
Pelosi paid
$2,500 John Adler NJ
$10,000 Jason Altmire PA
$10,000 Andre Carson IN
$10,000 Joe Donnelly IN
$10,000 Gabrielle Giffords AZ
$10,000 Baron Hill IN
$10,000 Ron Klein FL
$10,000 Tim Mahoney FL
$10,000 Harry Mitchell AZ
$10,000 Patrick Murphy AZ
$10,000 Joe Sestack PA
$10,000 Carol Shea Porter NH
$10,000 Zach Space OH
$10,000 Niki Tsongas MA
$7,500 Nick Lampson”
Info on Stephanie Tubbs Jones
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,406742,00.html
#5 ladyhawkke and #83 SheShePUMA …Thanks for the link and address…I lit my candle and will be sending a card…hope and pray she will be okay!
Go to the boston Herald for wonderful op ed piece:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1113869
#93 Maryland PUMA
Can you send me that MP3 for the Dixie Chicks
Got this message of Blog the H@@@ out of this one:
http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/just-words/
Murphy, Remember Senator Robert Byrd from WV. BO raised $634,000 for him in one day from MoveOn.org in March, 2005.
Byrd endorsed BO after his state went for Hillary by 41 points!
#100 bmw
A great article. I am so hoping that enough people will wake up to him that Hillary will actually win the nomination.
And I am so looking forward to Denver!
55 chicago4truth on 08.20.08 at 10:33 am
Thank you for the informative (and alarming) article on Chicago-style politics — we certainly don’t want “NObama Nepotitis” installed on a National level!!
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!
I’M PEEKING IN AT WORK. I JUST WANT TO SAY HAVE A BLESSED AND SAFE TRIP TO DENVER. I WILL SEND CARD TO STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES.
ALSO A BIG WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO ON MCCAIN’S LEAD. THIS IS TOOOOO FUNNY. THE DONC NEED TO WAKE UP BEFORE THEIR OWN MASCOT KICK THEM UP THEIR YOU KNOW WHAT.
OKAY BACK TO WORK.
REPOST FROM KERRI DOWNSTAIRS
Kerri on 08.20.08 at 4:47 am
Any PUMA’s who are seeking lodging in Denver:
I have found a residence wich can hold any number of people, 3-6, actually, for the price of 50 dollars per person per night. Apparently they are HRC supporters and thus we get a “bargain” rate. Heh, if you ask me, the Coloradians are making a killing!
But, that is neither here nor there! The price is true, as I’ve been searching for days now! LOL This situation has a two large and real beds, two rooms, plus a kitchen area and private bathrooms and entrances.
If you’re interested contact the “host” at mbarfels over at comcast dot net. Also, if you’d be so good as to just drop ME a line to let me know how many spaces you’ve booked, as I’m trying to keep track of such options for other PUMA’s in need of shelter. As ever, I’m reachable at Kerriwyn and that’s over on aol
Alright then.
PS. If someone here is currently ON when the morning thread goes up, if you’d be kind enough to copy this post for the next shift? Thank you.
HI, MURPHY,
I JUST LOGGED IN FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY. I WONDER IF THERE IS ANOTHER NYCgirl OUT THERE?
OR I AM WONDERING WHAT DID I SAY? I AM CONFUSED …
I NEVER HEARD OF THE “BAD GUY LIST” UNTIL I SAW IT IN THE LEADING STATEMENT OF THIS THREAD JUST NOW.
MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE IS USING MY NAME?? IT WASN’T ME … I CAN’T TAKE CREDIT, BUT THANKS ANYWAY!!
NYCgirl
I forwarded the infomation on the delgates that Obama and Nancy Pelosi bought and Paid for, to MSNBC.
I don’t know if it will make a difference, but I basically told them that the media is supposed to be responsible for maintaining a system of checks and balances in our society, that they should be the police of the lies that we are fed by those that mean to “lead us” and that they should arrest somebody already.
I feel better lol
Im sure a lot of you are tired of seeing this but I dont want to miss anyone!
Anyone who has not seen this yet
I am making a PUMA video for Denver.
You can send me a pic, a message, some kind of graphic, or a combination of any of that. It is ok to send a personal pic, but it doesnt have to be one. It doesnt cost anything at all.
I will put them all together in a video to be played in Denver.
Send anything you want me to add to
witchway2go@hotmail.com
If any of the male Pumas are interested in a video of just the guys to show men can be PUMAs too please let me know.
Also a lot of people are sending me suggestions on songs! Keep em coming!
Im let me know today about the pics! I need to get the video done today. Thanks!
“Well, uh, you know, I think that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or, uh, a scientific perspective, uh, answering that question with specificity, uh, you know, is, is, uh, above my pay grade.” – Sen. Barack Obama, on “When does a baby get human rights?”
I’m sorry nycgirl — i must have misread my email thread — will go check now.
but either way you deserve LOTS of credit for ALL you are doing for Puma and Hillary and NYC and our Party.
jbjd I am a Ky PUMA, saw the post where you needed to get in touch with some one from KY. How can I get you my email address? I am at work right now, am just lurking right now, anyway, I’ll check back in later for your reply.
Thanks
My comment is awaiting moderation?
I am gone for a few days to take my son to college, come back and I’m starting over?
Well, at least BO is down in the polls.
Thanks to TrishfromCanada for the link to the YouTube Video – very good. And thanks to the person who gave the link to the Boston Herald Op ed piece – the presidency is definitely above BO’s pay grade…wonder if people are waking up little by little and seeing what BO really is? Let’s hope…
CLINTON in FLORIDA TOMORROW
Hillary Clinton is going to be in Florida tomorrow. Boca Raton, FAU doors open at 12:30 for 1:30 am rally (for BO, puke). Stop in Broward County afterward, details?
ups, that was PM, not AM on #116
#112 murphy
Okay, no problem! You only have to sift through 18 million emails per day!
And thanks for the kind words! I admit it was very cool to see my blog name at the top of the PUMA Pac blog thread! An honor!
NYCgirl
Updated above with this new youtube from the fab GEEKLOVE:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GMx6dnhP7fI
#113 bluegrasstrina
Email me at marylandpuma@gmail.com and I will forward to jbjd.
112 murphy
are you able to tell where the info was found – would love to go to the site and research, research, research !!!!!!
The “above my pay grade” remark is perfect!
Q. What should we do about Russia and Georgia?
A. Umm, err, it’s above my pay grade.
Q. What should we do about torture?
A. Err, umm, it’s above my pay grade.
Q. What is your stand on Roe v. Wade?
A. Present
Q. What about VP?
A. I have to ask Michele.
He’s ready to lead alright.
When Pelosi (or her pac) gives money to congressmen or women, what’s the publically stated purpose for doing so? Just curious.
I don’t mean to challenge that list up there, but is that public record and a credible source? How in the heck can that happened? Is that legitemate?
Big Blue
#63 Headclunker said
To get financial, FEC Reports (PACS also):
http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/srssea.shtml
#100 bmw60 – thanks for posting that link. what a fabulous op-ed piece. how i wish there were a zillion more like it. but i’ll take what i can get right now!
“it’s above my pay grade”
BUT make me an offer and maybe we can get there..
This is the list that Ricki Lieberman sent me :
FAXES FOR REPS WHO TOOK $ FROM PELOSI PAC AND ENDORSED BO, ALTHO THEIR DISTRICTS/STATES VOTED FOR CLINTON:
Rep. Baron Hill: 202-226-6886
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter: 202-225-5822
Sen. Jeff Bingaman: 202-224-2852
Sen. Frank Lautenberg: 202-228-4054
Rep. Ron Klein: 202-225-8398
Rep. Joe Donnelly: 202-226-6798
Rep. Gerald McNerney: 202-225-4060
Rep. Jason Altmire: 202-226-2274
Rep. Niki Tsongas: 202-226-0771
Rep. Dennis Cardoza: 202-225-0891
Rep. Gabriella Giffords: 202-225-0378
Rep. Jim Costa: 202-225-9308
Rep. Zack Space: 202-225-3394
Rep. Charlie Wilson: 202-225-5907
Rep. Jay Rockefeller: 202-224-7665
Dear Donna Brazile:
Have you seen the polls? How is that Carl Rove “mentorship” working for yah now?
1) Did you really think you were in Carl Rove’s league?
2) Did you really believe that you had something to offer Rove, in exchange for getting your clients access to the White House – other than adding new info to his Rep Party playbook to use against the Democratic Party?
3) Did you really think that somehow you were smart enough to siphon off Rove campaign tactics to get your man, Obama, into the White House?
4) Did you really believe that Rove would leak you the map on how to defeat the Repubs in November?
5) Or, did you finally figure out how to pay back the Dem Party by insuring Clinton’s defeat, underwriting and fueling a race-baiting strategy, and setting a global stage for a grand performance of “victimized” defeat because of racism in America.
We could have at least considered it plausible had you offered us a candidate that has actually done something for furthering a cause, community, policy or the needs of “America”. Where life begins isn’t the only thing ‘above Obama’s pay grade’.
I’ll save you a text message Ms. Brazile. The answer to all of my questions is “Uhhh, uh, uhhhh, babble, uhhh, hope, babble, uhhh change, uhhh, babble, uhhh, I am the one, uhhh, logo, uhhh…
Obama has his mansion, beefed up his resume and ego a bit and made fools out of everyone he has come in contact with. You’ve both gotten what you wanted.
Why don’t you both get out of the way now and let people who are seriously committed to our Nation’s welfare get about the business of winning the White House in November.
Obama won the SELECTION. Hillary Rodham Clinton can beat McCain – which means she can win the ELECTION.
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Press release and new video:
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PUMAs,
We have a collaborative effort on the way in which we are calling upon all those PUMAs who would be interested in participating in a book project entitled “The Letters of Deliberation’.
To be compiled by Will Bower and Q’zeromen, we are calling for the submission of time-stamped emails and blog comments which were written to address all aspects of the 2008 presidential campaign season. These emails and blog comments should be written by PUMAs and should have been written before the time and date of this announcement.
These emails and blog comments should be ones that best express your own PUMA nature — and those thoughts and events that lead you to becoming a PUMA in the first place.
Thank you in advance for your participation in this. We very much look forward to documenting the history of our movement… as experienced and written by all of us.
Will Bower & Q’zeromen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un3hhYLRvXs
http://www.thinkupset.com/
TOPIC: BAD GUY LIST
I don’t know where El Paso got the info from, but I heard another PUMA say here recently that there was an interest in this on the part of a staff member from the Lou Dobbs Tonight show.
Any update on whether or not the original payoff info was forwarded to Dobbs? I can’t remember who the PUMA was who first contacted Dobbs about this and got a positive response asking for further info …
Whoever it was who contacted Dobbs, what happened with that?
I think we should all forward that list to Lou Dobbs after verifying the source of the info.
NYCgirl
Alice
so do we go back through all of our blog comments and save them?
McCain takes lead over Obama: poll
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080820/ts_nm/usa_poll_politics_dc
re#90
the tide is turning
#133 Caracal Carrie
that’s the idea as far as I can tell, and emails.
also see
http://logisticsmonster.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/puma-growl-for-letters-of-deliberation/
Stephanie-Tubbs Jones was in medical distress,behind the wheel of her car. Police had to bump in to her car and guide it off the road.No one else hurt.
i remember within the last two days someone asking something like – “how the delegate selection/process occurs – here’s a link http://www.superdelegates.org/Main_Page
gives both super and regular delegate info
129 wontbackdown
I love that letter you wrote to Brazile – is it ok if I fax it to everyone on my list? with your name of course and PUMA on it.
Please let me know, thanks.
13 chicago4truth
Don’t know if anyone posted it yet… but is this the article you wanted to post?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/1116348,CST-EDT-carol20.article
TrishfromCanada on 08.20.08 at 10:17 am
This video was just sent to my e-mail. It’s well worth looking at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zZWFd-uqL4&feature=email
We need more of these kind of videos. Our voices!
Thanks for posting. And Good Morning.
#139 bruce55555… Absolutely. I am sure Brazile-ein-stein will love to know that we have finally “found our joy”.
Stephanie Tubbs Jones was just confirmed :she had a ANEURYSM
omg prayers to STJ
#100 bmw60: That’s a great article — thanks for the link!
#53 jrhed, #55 chicago4truth: my twenty-something niece lives in Chicago and is disgusted with the politics and financial situation of the State — hiking public transportation fares, etc. Says Blagojevich is a disaster and BO a do-nothing Chicago-style pol. After her own observations and reading, she’s decided on McCain if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination and made the “mistake” of saying so at work when someone asked her. Her supervisor overheard and said that he “thinks less of her” for not voting for Obama and that she’s terribly “un-modern” for not voting for BO. Needless to say, now if she could vote twice for McCain, she would…..
#127 pink puma….love it!! Most people do not even know what BO meant by pay grade!! Someone said to me yesterday…”did he want a pay increase to answer that question…” again he is out of touch with the average person!
I wish Stephanie-Tubbs Jones a speedy recovery.
I saw her with Hillary while they were on the campaign trail in Tamarac, FL.
Wonderful, passionate campaigner.
Chelsea was there too.
102 bmw60 on 08.20.08 at 11:42 am Got this message of Blog the H@@@ out of this one:
http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/just-words/
_____________________
His mockery and arrogance is enough to make me puke.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc
Another link on Stephanie Tubbs Jones with a little more info than the link provided earlier:
http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail;jsessionid=2DB3634409B84A7F695E7E36D8C9950F?contentId=7244676&version=25&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.14.1&sflg=1
#143 tillerylakelady…Thanks for the update…do you know what condition she is in?
Poor lonely Normita.
I was at the HillaryClinton.com site and saw her comment standing alone. Such faith.
Her story reminds me of a faithful Akita named Hachiko:
Chu-ken Hachiko (lit. the faithful dog Hachiko) was born in Akita in 1923 and was first brought to Tokyo in 1924. He and his owner, Mr. Eisaburo Uyeno, were inseparable friends right from the start. Each day “Hachi” would accompany Eisaburo, a professor at the Imperial University, to the train station when he left for work. Upon returning, the professor would find the dog patiently waiting, tail wagging. This happy routine continued until one fateful day in 1925, when the professor was taken ill on the job and unfortunately died before he could return home.
Despite the fact that Hachiko was less than two years old at the time, the bond between dog and owner was strong. Hachiko continued to wait each day at Shibuya station for a friend who was never coming back. At times, he wouldn’t return home for days at a stretch.
The Akita became a familiar sight to commuters as he kept his vigil for over ten years. On March 8, 1935, Hachiko finally went to meet his master. He died on the very same spot he last saw his friend alive.
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Someone needs to let Normita know that the lights have been turned off over there. All the regulars have gone home and sharpened their PUMA teeth for a higher cause called democracy. Like with the Hachiko story, Hillary’s candidacy, in all probability, is never coming back too.
By the way, for all who want to meet her on a personal level at the convention she is staging another “contest” to win such a date with her. All you need to do is contribute more money to be eligible.
I have an opinion about that, but I’ll let it rest for now.
#132 NYC Girl I believe I was the one that posted I had heard from Lou Dobbs regarding “Superdelegates for Sale” MommaE over at Ed Hale also posted about his Jakarta connection. I called in and was on hold for 40″, I had to hang up because I just couldn’t sit there all day. MommaE said she was put on hold after waiting forever and was disconnected, so neither one of us got thru. You certainly can e-mail him but he seems to want to put you on his radio show. I wish he would just report it on his television show.
From: Lou Dobbs
Subject: Great email. Let’s talk about this . . .
Thanks for your email. You make a great point, and we’d like to bring it up on the air during the show. So please give us a call at 1-877-553-6227 between 3 PM and 5 PM (Eastern Time) and let’s talk about it.
Most of all, thanks for listening, and for being part of the Independent Nation.
All the best,
Lou Dobbs and the staff of The Lou Dobbs Show
Stephanie Tubbs-Jones
http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6806960&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1
142 wontbackdown
thanks!
#152 maxgrader…
That’s exactly why Normita is there… she is keeping a light on the lampstand for when Hillary comes back home!
Per Murphy’s announcement at the top of the thread:
“Last Chance Super Delegates”
It’s our last chance to lobby them. Here’s the link to do so:
http://www.lobbydelegates.com/
I’m becoming extremely suspicious of all these coincidences that are preventing Clinton supporters from attending the Convention. The man that was shot a few days back, then Feinstein, and now Tubbs Jones. Not to mention that man in Denver that was discovered dead with cyanide and being investigated for terrorists plot. I don’t want to jump to conclusions — but I can’t help but think something really scary is going on with Obama and his chicago mafia like backers. I won’t say another word — and am not trying to jump to conclusions — but just wanted to vent that I’m suspicious of all these coincidences.
I saw this on Alegre’s site.
ACTION: Call David Patterson!
by: Alegre
Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 21:46:05 PM EDT
Hat-tip to CatFish for bringing this article to my attention
Seems the good Governor New York hasn’t gotten the latest memo. Hillary’s going to be on that roll call ballot and he needs to get the state’s delegation lined up behind their Senator. He needs a talking-to! He needs to follow the lead of Ed Rendell.
New York governor says…:
New York’s delegation to the Democratic National Convention will vote to nominate Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois for president, not Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, Gov. David Paterson said Monday.
“Believe me, the New York delegation will be all casting our ballots, as far as I know, on the roll call for Senator Barack Obama,” Paterson said during an interview on WNYC radio. “I don’t believe Senator Hillary Clinton is asking anyone to vote for her.”
“I don’t believe…” OMG is this man really that dense? Does he need this sort of stuff spoon-fed to him? Hillary’s going to be on that ballot for a reason. To give her delegates the chance to cast their vote for her. Especially, you know… her PLEDGED DELEGATES. How can he try to take that away from her supporters and deny Hillary’s 18 million voters a voice?
So let’s contact the good Governor and ask him (respectfully) to back his state’s Senator and our one shot at beating the republicans and re-taking the White House – Hillary Clinton.
Email Form – http://161.11.121.121/govemail
Phone – 518-474-8390
Snail Mail (does anyone use this any more?)
David A. Paterson
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
#152 maxgrader
Your sarcasm is not welcome. Normita is a wonderful person one of the strongest supporters of HRC.
It is early, I haven’t had all of my coffee yet. Murphy, Maryland, MamaPuma, My apologies in advance.
Shut the hell up maxgrader!
marylandpuma you’ve got mail. Have a great day.
Stephanie Tubbs-Jones
I have been on cable news all day and have not heard a report on this just a ticker at bottom. I wish Congresswoman Jones the best, but why no report on cable news yet?
mzebest – we’re all freaked out for a zillion reasons. but, an aneurysm is an underlying physiologic medical problem that leaves a person vulerable to it rupturing, most often brought on by hypertension and the like. trauma or infection can also cause a rupture, but there doesn’t appear to be signs of truama in the case of Congresswoman Tubbs. as for feinstein’s ankle, i would think that if it were broken due to some kind of assault that would have been reported and known. it’s quite likely that this sad array of misfortunes is not unusual, but instead, that we are all much more tuned into them. people do have strokes, break bones, etc. i think we’re all just hyper vigiliant right now (and for good reason). in addition, the arkansas dnc chair and tubbs had switched their support to obama as far as i know, so they have not been publically supporting clinton for quite some time now.
we’re worried and nervous. hang in there.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html
Barack Obama’s ‘lost’ brother found in Kenya, Senator Barack Obama’s long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed.
The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
marcelka – thanks for posting your post. can you reference where you saw that bit of (distressing) news? thanks.
#141 goandersen
I have more from the person who made that video, I’ll send you the links when I get back from lunch.
maxgrader
I shouldn’t feed the bots, but here I go, always have been kind of hard headed, but there is a difference in being loyal and being blinded, and you are blinded and we are all loyal. Go look up the meaning to the word, if you have time. While you are at it, look up democracy too! You really need to know the difference. We are clannish here, and when you pick on one PUMA, you get the entire bunch!
marcelka – ps re: reference, i mean, do you have a media outlet where this was reported that you can share of provide a link to? thanks.
130 Alice Rodham Puma
Sorry, but with all the actions necessary and help needed prior to the Convention, I can’t help but think of this project as being a bit premature. Somehow it reminds me of Obama writing his memoirs at 37 years of age … premature.
It’s greta to have a head-up regarding the project, but it seems to me that every ounce of energy used to pursue and publicize this project could be used instead to write to delegates, super delegates, Senator Clinton, media, assist with the details of Puma at the Convention, etc. It just seems like another distraction and, again, premature.
.07 cents… adjusted for inflation
Sorry goanderson. I meant nothing adverse.
maxgrader. What the h%##? Normita is one of Senator Clinton’s stanchest supporters, from the very beginning. She along with many others of us shared many long and trying and also fun-filled nights over on the hrc.com blogs. We worked hard on Sen Clinton’s behalf, and kept each other sane through it all. Normita has never faltered in her positiveness and faith in Sen Clinton and the cause to try to make her our next President.
I for one, am rather offended in your equating her to a loyal dog for crying out loud.
160 goandersen
#152 maxgrader
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Thank you, goanderson
#160 goandersen
I agree with you. Max there is no reason for such negativity. We all deal with things differently and Normita has been a strong supporter of Hillary from the beginning, keep in mind what we always say, one person can make a difference. And Normita is doing her part to make that difference.
Also, if you think its over for Hillary, please refrain from spewing it here, many people are going to Denver from here, and they are going with pride in their hearts that they can make a difference and with a hell of a lot more hope than Bo could ever dream off.
No one needs to hear bad thoughts or vibes before they make their journey.
[UPDATE: Her office now states that she suffered an aneurysm.]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/20/breaking-news-us-rep-stephanie-tubbs-jones-hospitalized/
bluegrasstina and NobamaDem:
My apologies to you two as well.
The Hachiko story is one of the most beautiful stories of faith I know. Again, no harm was intended.
Shine on me, sunshine. Rain on me rain. Fall softly, dewdrops, and cool my brow again.
- Maya Angelou
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Washington Post article:
Obama’s Wide Web
From YouTube to Text Messaging- Candidate’s Team Connects to Voters
EXCERPTS & SUMMARY:
* “Obama’s Internet team is doing a hell of a job taking advantage of all these changes [in technology]. They’ve basically leapfrogged not just the Clinton and McCain campaigns but also the mainstream media when it comes to reaching their supporters” [through "techy" means]
* “Rospars won’t divulge the total number of people in his team. “We don’t want to give away our entire playbook,” he says”
* “…what’s striking about Obama’s [YouTube video] channel is the breadth of its content. Though most of the videos are centered on the candidate — his speeches and rallies, his TV and online ads, his TV appearances — many others feature his supporters.”
* “Never mind the polls, these videos seem to say, this is what’s happening in various homes and communities.”
* “Some bloggers say these videos are self-serving, propagandist, almost cultlike.”
* They’re using TEXTING heavily:
“To me, texting is the most personal form of communication,” says Goodstein, 34. …You’re texting with your friends. Now you’re texting with Barack.”
* Text messages are sent to aske supporters to make phone calls, volunteer, go to rallies, watch BO’s TV appearances, make announcements, etc… also to answer questions.
* They’re also using social networks like Facebook and MySpace (& setting up new ones).
—- LINK to the article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/19/AR2008081903186.html?hpid=topnews
MAKE COMMENTS THERE!
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146 BarbNOBO on 08.20.08 at 12:26 pm #127 pink puma….love it!! Most people do not even know what BO meant by pay grade!! Someone said to me yesterday…”did he want a pay increase to answer that question…” again he is out of touch with the average person!
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I was watching the forum and when he was asked that question I sat anxiously waiting to hear his answer. When he said “above his pay grade.” I said, HUH??? Then when I told my daughter in law the next day she asked, “What did he mean pay grade?” I said, “I have NO idea and I don’t even think HE has any idea either..”
That man rattles on and stammers so much to take up time and avoid giving a direct answer, I just want to slap him silly and say spit it out!
Democrats, I’m just not that into you anymore.
maxgrader on 08.20.08 at 12:45
We ALL make mistakes, and I believe you just made a poor choice here. But I for one also believe you should apologize directly to Normita, not any of us.
Sorry all for my outburst, I am off to take a breather from all this for a while, and maybe say a prayer or two for our friend Ms. Tubbs-Jones.
I hear ya Trish. Thank you.
#146 BarbNOBO
“Most people do not even know what BO meant by pay grade!!”
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I posted an explanation to this the other day but will mention it again. My ex-husband who was a military man often used this term. It’s referring to where your responsibilities lie in relation to your rank in the chain of command. If the expression is used “that’s above my pay grade,” it generally means you’ve been told to do something or execute a decision that requires someone higher up in the chain of command (and is inappropriate for that particular position).
But isn’t POTUS the highest point in that chain of command? This has nothing to do with actual pay… it’s a comment that has to do with saying it’s not his responsibility to make that decision since it’s a responsibility beyond his position in the chain of command. But as President — if he can’t take responsibility for making a decision — then who can?
Request:
I know “bolding” text can be a barrel of laughs, a real entertaining adventure, a laugh a minute, and I hate to dampen everyone’s fun and entertainment, but, could we limit bolding to stuff that actually holds some degree of importance for the majority on this blog?
Thanks.
maxgrader
hug
BIGGEST BUYS
Looks like BO has interests in some particular states. The biggest sales, by state, were:
IN $40,000
AZ $39,000
FL $31,000
PA $30,000
OH $24,500
NH $21,500
It would be great if some extra PUMA posts got into the news boards in these states about this.
81 Maryland PUMA ~~According to the article, Obama DOES retain support among 90% of black voters.
Given that, it woyld be hard not to think his campaign is ALL about being black. He doesn’t state any specific stand on anu of the real issues because he believes just being black is going to get him elected. And the black women friends I have say they don’t know anything about ‘issues’ and are voting for him because the sooo want to see a black president.
I think they may be in for a rather huge surprise come November, since blacks only make up 13% of total population of the United States. Everyone else, or most of them either see right through him or are beginning to.
Obama..”it is above my paygrade”
Harry Truman “the buck stops here”
what the !!!?????? got the following message -
“Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!”
when i was trying to repost the info from #107.
PUMAS, Here’s a PROWL we can all do. Let NY Governor Patterson know we expect an honest roll-call vote. I used my son’s address..ZIP 10044. You may want to use a NY address to be heard. My message:
Dear Governor Patterson,
Millions of us sincerely hope that you and the NY delegation to the Democratic Convention uphold democratic values and represent the voice of the people. Senator Clinton needs to receive a true roll-call vote, free from delegate intimidation. This means an overwhelming vote of support from the State of New York. Thank you
http://161.11.121.121/govemail
#187 Blue Blue Gal
Put “REPOST” at the top of the duplicate comment.
#183 Blue Blue gal:
Ah, that felt good. Thank you so much.
#182 DancesWithPumas, OOOPs sorry, didn’t realize bold was for Important things only. I think I will do as NObamaDem and go take a breather. Things seem to be getting a bit snarky here.
Have a good day all. Say prayers for STJ.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12645.html
K. Vogel, 8-19-08
Documents released Tuesday show federal regulators are leaning toward closing a potential new loophole through which Hillary Clinton could have repaid herself the $13 million she’d lent to her failed presidential campaign.
No matter who is the VP pick of NObama, he will LOSE in General Election, even Hillary cannot save him. I hope Hillary will reject the offer of VP spot, she would destroy her future in politics especially in 2012. The ONLY way the Democrat Party can win in November is to officially nominate Hillary, other than that, there’s NO HOPE for the democrats to win in November. Hillary can and will defeat McCain.
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By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama’s solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.
The reversal follows a month of attacks by McCain, who has questioned Obama’s experience, criticized his opposition to most new offshore oil drilling and mocked his overseas trip.
The poll was taken Thursday through Saturday as Obama wrapped up a weeklong vacation in Hawaii that ceded the political spotlight to McCain, who seized on Russia’s invasion of Georgia to emphasize his foreign policy views.
“There is no doubt the campaign to discredit Obama is paying off for McCain right now,” pollster John Zogby said. “This is a significant ebb for Obama.”
McCain now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over Obama on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy — an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election.
That margin reversed Obama’s 4-point edge last month on the economy over McCain, an Arizona senator and former Vietnam prisoner of war who has admitted a lack of economic expertise and shows far greater interest in foreign and military policy.
McCain has been on the offensive against Obama during the last month over energy concerns, with polls showing strong majorities supporting his call for an expansion of offshore oil drilling as gasoline prices hover near $4 a gallon.
Obama had opposed new offshore drilling, but said recently he would support a limited expansion as part of a comprehensive energy program.
That was one of several recent policy shifts for Obama, as he positions himself for the general election battle. But Zogby said the changes could be taking a toll on Obama’s support, particularly among Democrats and self-described liberals.
“That hairline difference between nuance and what appears to be flip-flopping is hurting him with liberal voters,” Zogby said.
Obama’s support among Democrats fell 9 percentage points this month to 74 percent, while McCain has the backing of 81 percent of Republicans. Support for Obama, an Illinois senator, fell 12 percentage points among liberals, with 10 percent of liberals still undecided compared to 9 percent of conservatives.
OBAMA NEEDS TO WORK ON BASE
“Conservatives were supposed to be the bigger problem for McCain,” Zogby said. “Obama still has work to do on his base. At this point McCain seems to be doing a better job with his.”
The dip in support for Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, cut across demographic and ideological lines. He slipped among Catholics, born-again Christians, women, independents and younger voters. He retained the support of more than 90 percent of black voters.
“There were no wild swings, there isn’t one group that is radically different than last month or even two months ago. It was just a steady decline for Obama across the board,” Zogby said.
Obama’s support among voters between the ages of 18 and 29, which had been one of his strengths, slipped 12 percentage points to 52 percent. McCain, who will turn 72 next week, was winning 40 percent of younger voters.
“Those are not the numbers Obama needs to win,” Zogby said about Americans under 30. The 47-year-old is counting on a strong turnout among young voters, a key bloc of support during his primary battle with New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.
It made little difference when independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, who are both trying to add their names to state ballots.
McCain still held a 5-point edge over Obama, 44 percent to 39 percent, when all four names were included. Barr earned 3 percent and Nader 2 percent.
Most national polls have given Obama a narrow lead over McCain throughout the summer. In the Reuters/Zogby poll, Obama had a 5-point lead in June, shortly after he clinched the Democratic nomination, and an 8-point lead on McCain in May.
The telephone poll of 1,089 likely voters had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
The poll was taken as both candidates head into their nominating conventions and the announcements of their choices of vice presidential picks. The Democratic convention begins on Monday in Denver, with the Republican convention opening the next Monday, September 1, in St. Paul, Minnesota.
It’s coming y’all, we can feel it in the air – give NObama enough rope and he’ll know what to do with it —–
all he needs is a microphone and no teleprompter or written notes —
Genius, pure genius.
Mo Dowd is at it again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/opinion/20dowd.html
She is just apopleptic about our girl. This really made me laugh.
re#193
I’m sensing that too..
Obama is not going to win..
Please read PUMA’s
I received this E-mail from Care2.com:
(This is part of the article)
Why is a “free speech zone” being caged in?
Free speech zones have been employed by the dems and reps at post political conventions. This year however, Denver, faces the embarrassing possiblity that they will be the only party actually caging dissenters. Protesters at the upcoming DNC in Denver in late August will be corralled into caged “free speech zones” made out of chicken wire and chain link fences which are located more than two football fields from the delegates’ entrance. Those who attempt to exercise their first amendment rights outside this make shift cage, which is partically obscrured by trees and sculptures, will be arrested.
So much for free speech!!!
Go to care2.com Article” Why is a “free speech zone” being caged in?
So much for rolling out the red carpet, Huh!!
Come on Pumas, maxgrader has been a loyal Puma for quite sometime and I for one have never read anything close to being disrespectful from him or her.
It was a wonderful story about faith and the faithful, not meant to hurt Normita whom we all love very much.
Lets all take a breath and calm down, lets not gnash our teeth each time someone posts a comment that we might take the wrong way.
We love Normita and we love maxgrader, we are all Pumas, we are family each and every one of us, let us not push each other around but lift each other up.
IMHO
One Love
I cast a vote last week at environmental America telling them not to support Obama.
I just got an email saying Obama won the vote by a landslide and that they are going to be putting a lot of resources behind helping him win.
Stephanie Tubb Jones suffered an aneurysm just on Fox ticker.
********UPDATE ON STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES*******
Condition is stable
BEGGING, PLEADING, IMPLORING, AND POLITELY ASKING
We have only a few days remaining to make our case to the people who will determine the outcome of this convention: the super delegates and the pledged delegates. All the rest is background noise right now (IMHO).
Lobby Delegates has kept their service available to us. It’s easy to use and costs as little as $5 to contact every single SD. If the task seems somewhat tedious, you can break it down over a few hours or a couple of days.
For those who’ve never used the service, check it out:
You can select SD’s by state and/or by which candidate they support.
Type you letter first and save it as a document so you can keep copying it into the field for the letter. Don’t bother typing Dear ……, because Lobby Delegates will type the name in for you. You also don’t need to sign your name because they will sign it for you.
To contact very SD going state-be-state, and choosing both clinton and obama supporters takes all of 90 minutes. Think of the time you might spend here blogging, which I know is way more fun (usually), but we’re down to the wire and let’s max out how much action we can take.
http://www.lobbydelegates.com/
168 Anna7000
“ps re: reference, i mean, do you have a media outlet where this was reported that you can share of provide a link to? thanks.”
Don’t know if this is the link he saw — but this is what I found on a google search:
http://www.buffalonews.com/nationalworld/national/story/417982.html
Im working on it now Anna…just trying to find some words lol
#198 DaddysDarlin
Speak for yourself. #152
FYI, Murphy speaks highly of Maxgrader and told me he was very trustworthy. I think she may know him personally. For what it is worth.
thank you Maryland PUMA
REPOST
REPOST FROM KERRI DOWNSTAIRS
Kerri on 08.20.08 at 4:47 am
Any PUMA’s who are seeking lodging in Denver:
I have found a residence wich can hold any number of people, 3-6, actually, for the price of 50 dollars per person per night. Apparently they are HRC supporters and thus we get a “bargain” rate. Heh, if you ask me, the Coloradians are making a killing!
But, that is neither here nor there! The price is true, as I’ve been searching for days now! LOL This situation has a two large and real beds, two rooms, plus a kitchen area and private bathrooms and entrances.
If you’re interested contact the “host” at mbarfels over at comcast dot net. Also, if you’d be so good as to just drop ME a line to let me know how many spaces you’ve booked, as I’m trying to keep track of such options for other PUMA’s in need of shelter. As ever, I’m reachable at Kerriwyn and that’s over on aol
Alright then.
PS. If someone here is currently ON when the morning thread goes up, if you’d be kind enough to copy this post for the next shift? Thank you
Electoral votes
July
312 Obama
199 McCain
Today
264 Obama
274 McCain
Stop the Hate, don’t you think this is why some of us don’t post anymore? I have been here since day 1 the 4th person to join PumaPac, I love my Puma family as I say each time I log in, but I absolutely despise any form of negativity. I have had enough of it in my life, I don’t need it from my Puma family, thanks.
One Love
#153 ladyhawkke
Thanks for that update. Do we know where the original source info is located on this? How do we know about these payoffs? Not that I’m doubting this happened …
I think Dobbs would cover it if we could back up our sources and if enough PUMAs emailed him requesting him to do a story on it for his TV show. This is the type of story that would work even after the convention, but of course if we could back up our sources before that, it would be even better.
NYCgirl
Breaking News!
Obama’s VP choice.
http://tinyurl.com/5tnvge
maxgrader, accepted, sorry I jumped in so quick, but I took it that you were being ugly to Normita. Tempers are flaring today. Sorry I added to it. It is a beautiful story. I am a dog lover and have dogs.
Maxgrader has the right to his/her opinion, we ALL should respect that. Normita work so hard for Hillary, she travelled state to state campaigning for her. I still post in hillaryclinton.com but my post never made it, they never post it. A lot of people working for Hillary knows Normita, she is one of their most dedicated campaigner for Hillary. She have my utmost respect, a very hardworking woman, and yes she’s a LOYAL Hillary supporter – it must be the Asian in us.
Maxgrader
hug, lick, and purrrrrrrr
#198 DaddysDarlin:
Very moving. And thank you for your kind support.
Even after being here since the middle of June I’m still learning from a whole lot of folks here what it means to be a puma and a Hillary Clinton supporter. I’ll be more reserved from now on in my thinking.
By the way, my real name is Kent– just a dumb guy with a Beatle haircut.
Thanks again, Daddysdarlin.
185 MountainSong on 08.20.08 at 12:56 pm
I have been amazed at NObama’s strategic claim to “Blackness”, since in so doing, he in essence rejects his Mother’s “Whiteness” — to my way of thinking, Barry is “Mixed Race”, which should be celebrated in it’s own right.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/08/who-decided-to-call-obama-a-black-man/
#205 goandersen… I step in that too on my way to the blog every now and then.
Great article from American Thinker in which J. R. Dunn makes his case for NObama heading for a dramatic defeat because people are figuring out that he is a “flake.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/the_odd_choices_in_barack_obam.html
thanks mzebest. much appreciated. will deal with patterson shortly. i’m in the middle of one more go ground with lobby delegates. ugh.
mzebest. i’m no good with technology and have no patience for figuring it out. if you are so inclined, could you post or re-post the stuff about patterson for folks who may want to take action. seems like one of the few things in the blog today really worthy of attention as far as urgent action needed. seems to be right up there with the whole rendell memo urging pledged delegates not to sign the petition in my view.
Oh lord I’m gonna be sick, foxnews is saying they are sure he is going to pick Hillary Clinton for VP now because she is the strongest candidate and BO is losing and he needs a strong candidate and she is basically the only one who can more or less save him. Crap Crap Crap.
#205 goandersen… And sometimes I step in it after I get here.
(smile)
218 just.words… on 08.20.08 at 1:29 pm
“A flake is not only a screwup, but someone who truly excels in making bizarre errors and creating incredibly convoluted disasters.
A flake is a “fool with energy”, as the Russian proverb puts it. (“A fool is a terrible thing to have around, but a fool with energy is a nightmare”.)”
#217 wontbackdown
I usually avoid it. I don’t post much any more because of it.
I call it as I see it.
OMG Pumas, fox news is pushing Hillary to be Obamas VP. I cain’t stand it. NO NO NO WAY Hillary
Bitterpoliticz has a bio of Stephanie Tubbs-Jones and they are collecting get-well messages for her on the blog…for those that can’t send a card.
http://camille424.wordpress.com/
#224 tillerylakelady too funny that is what I justed posted on#220 so we were probably both gagging at the same time
EVERYONE!!!
It matters little what the news is spinning. We’ll all know soon enough about vp picks and nominees.
Let’s not wind down in the final stretch.
We have the governor of NY pressuring pledged delegates to all cast their vote for obama on the first roll call and a sea of super delegates who need to hear from us right up until they cast their votes. We know how to contact all of these follks, so let’s do it!
#181 mzebest…Thanks for the explanation. Colmes said the other day on Hannity and Colmes that BO meant it wasn’t up to him to answer when life begins but a higher power. Colmes seems whimpy and always making excuses for BO. I’m with you, if he cannot make answer that question than what will he do if he has something of extreme importance to answer. I guess he’ll just answer present!!
#181 mzebest…Thanks for the explanation. Colmes said the other day on Hannity and Colmes that BO meant it wasn’t up to him to answer when life begins but a higher power. Colmes seems whimpy and always making excuses for BO. I’m with you, if he cannot answer that question than what will he do if he has something of extreme importance to answer. I guess he’ll just answer present!!
NO Don’t do it Hillary stay away from the light}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} KOOL-AID
We are all different people. we all came on different paths to be at the same place.
Being here as far as I have seen so far is a lot like things between my sister and I . We are completely different people. We will chime in with “your an Idiot” in so many words and discuss our differences.
But it all ends with love. Texas and I will debate and clash till the cows come home, but above all else we will stand together.
It is not the end of things when one Puma disagrees with another. We can only use those times to learn about each other and grow.
But when it is time. When we need to stand up and say “We WiLL BE COUNTED” we know that we will be doing that hand in hand.
thats my opinion anyway. PUMA is family ie my brother from another mother lol
So no worries Pumas.
Squish
Slyt2 you are soooooo right!!
#198 DaddysDarlin
I agree with you, we don’t have to crucify any one.
We are very “touchy” these days.
I was wondering if anyone else has experienced the following cyber attacks:
-When I receive a video on OB it either comes as a bogus message such as “buy this cookwear” or it comes through as the original video or message and then changes into a spam message.
-When I am sending a message including his name or Hillary’s name, I get an error that the message cannot be sent.
It amazes me the lengths his followers will go through to try and ensure a win.
#227 Anna7000 I couldn’t agree with you more but with BO dropping in the polls the way he is, they are thinking Hillary will be the VP choice so maybe this is why they are pushing delegates to vote for him because in the end he will pick her so why waste a vote on her. That is why we were posting it about VP letting everyone know what the news is , he is slipping, losing ground and needs a big boost and she is the boost he needs. YUCK
Barack Obama poster:
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
We love Normita and we love maxgrader, we are all Pumas, we are family each and every one of us, let us not push each other around but lift each other up.
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I can pretty much agree with the last part of your statement, but, I think we should each speak for ourselves when we speak of “loving” individuals on this blog, or anywhere else. I do not pretend that this group is my “family”, although there are a few with whom I seemed to have developed strong relationships, care for, and would do almost anything for them. There are also individuals I like and respect more than others. I view my participation in this group, as I would any other political action group.
Closeness developes or not. Blanket statements about “love” and “family” just don’t resonate when they are flung out there as generalizations representing people who were never asked.
That’s okay, bluegrasstina.
Hi diva2!!!! Thanks again for the nod from the thoughts and opinions of D. Murphy. But no we are not personal friends. She’s simply someone I have great admiration for because of her leadership and educational advantages.
Hey, everybody… let’s get off the subject of me. I want to hear other subjects and news coming from all you other pumas.
Remember: Kaine and Romney are going to be the VPs.
#fineartistinoil,
hey welcome to Pumapac
Hope your claws are sharp and ready
Anna7000–I just joined and want to contact superdelegates to tell them to vote for Hillary but do not know how to contact them. Can someone direct me?
slyt2 – i understand. but the media has reported a million stories and an infinite number of predictions and spins. we can’t assume anything or take anything for granted. if clinton is obama’s vp pick, then so it will be. but if she isn’t, we will have allowed these precious remaining days slide when we could have taken action. in this case, more is better than less!
Ohio station: Tubbs Jones may be taken off life support
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/ohio-station-tubbs-jones-may-be-taken-off-life-support-2008-08-20.html
238 maxgrader
I prefer Romney.
dances
i agree
In case it hasn’t been posted;
Tubbs Jones Suffered Aneurysm; It doesn’t look good, please pray for her.
http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/17240409/detail.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWnZinQogxc&eurl=http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Media spin is a distraction.
Tubbs Jones, while a very sad situation, is a distraction.
Too many hours blogging is a distraction.
Let’s not stop with Murphy’s prowls. We can all take initiative, be creative, take action on our own as well. Let’s not let up on the pressure. The powers that be need to be hearing from us en masse right up to when votes are cast. This isn’t the time to lighten up on speaking out.
Good morning, all. DanceswithPumas: you are so talented. I wrote my letters to all FL supers again, via the delegate watch website…Katz and Mahoney, taking all that money, and Mahoney was never listed as committed. The website has not been updated since MT/SD primary, so he had to take that money right before that primary. And Wexler…another traitor. Also sent another e-mail using that same website to Hill and Bill. Going to work on the rest of my letter now. This tropical storm thing sure leaves extra time open during the day!
Holy cow I hope all our Florida Pumas are ok. Fox is saying there is not just inches of rain fall but feet. Flooding is terrible and storm is not moving just circleing.
Fox news would like for Hillary to be the VP choice.
When the NObama ship sinks they figure Hillary will go down with it.
They’re thinking 2012, I’m sure.
please Hillary, please please please
Hey tillarylakelady: They are out and here comes some truth regarding BO.
I had an experience during my first semester in college that I feel is of utmost importance in helping reveal the truth. In 1998 I decided to return to college in Greensboro N.C. to obtain my four year degree. The school administration signed me up for a class titled: “The White Experience”. When I questioned what the class was about, I could never quiet get a clear cut answer. The class had not previously been told there were to be scheduled speakers. The church leader blatantly explained to all the white people stating that “ When we get an African American Islamic Louis Farrakhan member in as President of the United States, we are not going to kill whites because they are white…we are going to kill whites because they are evil. I had never encountered racism before, neither given nor received such thoughts. I don’t think this is a real race issue….It is an Islamic issue and the worst wars of time have been fought in the name of religion…it is this that I foresee with great fear and dread.
It doesn’t look promising for Ms. Jones. My sister died from Aneurysm on her 28th birthday, itwas quick. Her house was just 3 minutes away from the hospital, she was DOA.
I know msnbc is not a favorite station here, but my sister sent me this poll…maybe some of you are interested in taking it..it”s to keep “god ” on our money
..http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
Something is going on with the blog. Took me 5 minutes to log in although I have been reading the posts. Now there is a big gray square over the last post and the box I am trying to fill in now.
LadyHaw….I am following your lead on letter to Howie and Nancy letter. Also am faxing my letter from yesterday to Hillary again, along with a blurb and link to Dr. Lynette Longs site exposing corruption and the letter to I wrote to Howie to her.
btw..good morning everyone.
I see everyone is very busy..I will be waiting for my prowl…right now I have to get afk and get my work done! Keep the faith!!
# 215 maxgrader, thank you. I read the posts here everyday, I used to post more, but as you can see, if you tell a story even a story about faith and hope and trust, it can be turned around to bite you in the ass, so I don’t post much anymore.
I do tend to use word like love and family as Dances says, but they are not just statements, there is real feeling behind them, so please don’t think that if I use those words they are empty words, I can assure you they are not.
I was a very lonely person before I found my Puma Family, I have a place now that I can go, I can talk or I can just choose to read, but I feel I have a place now, a place to go. I am disabled, single mom of seven, six are grown up and gone, I am housebound most of the time, anyway, I do LOVE MY PUMA FAMILY, each and every one, even though sometimes we my disagree.
One Love
#240 Anna7000 again I agree and I will continue to do things to help the cause I will email delegates untill my fingers fall off but it was news and I was reporting what I heard that’s all nothing more nothing less. We do that we report news, links and other things and the main reason I did report this, this time is because for the first time what Bob Beckell and the rest did say makes sense about VP choice. So with that begin said I will start emailing NY pledged delegates
LET’S NOT WAIT FOR THE PROWL. WE KNOW WHAT TO DO.
REMEMBER HOW A FEW DAYS AGO THERE WAS A RUNNING LIST ON THE BLOG OF DONATIONS? WELL, WHAT ABOUT A RUNNING LIST OF ACTIONS WE TAKE TODAY, PROWL-RELATED OR NOT.
COME ON, EVERYONE. WE CAN DO THIS BACKWARDS IN OUR SLEEP AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE OUR TALKING POINTS. WE KNOW WHAT TO SAY AND HOW TO SAY IT (WITH DIGNITY AND GRACE).
NO MYSTERY WHO TO CONTACT. PLENTY OF WAYS TO CONTACT THEM.
LET’S ACT!!!!!
re#198
i agree with you daddy..
people need to lighten up and not be so up-tight..
some people get caught up in head games each trying to prove who loves hillary the most ..
sometimes it comes across as silly self-righteousness and sanctimonious pretension..
i read max’s post too and I thought it was wonderful and sweet!
Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but this was brought to my attention yesterday, and may help explain what really derailed Hillary’s campaign, and what is being held over her head and influencing her strange behavior in supporting Obama. I think it’s worth PUMA’s at least taking a look.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/hillarywatch.shtml
omg fox just said unconfirmed that tubbs died
#250 Fineartistinoil,
It is a really scary situation With Louis Farrakhan,we all know where he stands
***********ALERT*************ALERT*****
Congresswoman TUBBS JONES had passed away
SO SORRY FOR HER FAMILY
what is up wiith this blog? it is acting crazy..
Oh my God, I just heard Tubb-Jones died. How horrible!!! I feel for her family, she was not an old woman.
The bizarre things that are happening to Hillary’s delegates is beyond comprehension. Of all the people for this to happen to, Stephanie was a wonderful woman and I clearly remember her on the campaign trail saying she would be with Hill until she released her.
tried to post..it turned into a big PUMA paw and would not budge,…had to open new page
253 BillieJo~~~ Have you tried rebooting?
Ok back to work e-mailing Delegates.
Before I go Pumas RUSSIA is Threatening Poland!!
This is really getting worse.
I just heard on fox that they are trying to confirm that Tubbs died. If this is true it is so very sad.
I am here PUMAs but the website is totally messed up on my screen. Is anyone else having trouble?
250 fineartistinoil ~~~ I believe that is a VERY astute and accurate observation. I hope america wakes to the fact before it’s too late.
255 DaddysDarlin on 08.20.08 at 1:57 pm # 215
maxgrader, thank you. I read the posts here everyday, I used to post more, but as you can see, if you tell a story even a story about faith and hope and trust, it can be turned around to bite you in the ass, so I don’t post much anymore.
I do tend to use word like love and family as Dances says, but they are not just statements, there is real feeling behind them, so please don’t think that if I use those words they are empty words, I can assure you they are not..
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me, too..and they are meant to shame, amuse or offend anyone in any way..I DO love being part of this group! so frequently when i sign off I say this..”I love you guys!” sorry if it offends anyone and please do not take it as a joke as it is said with feeling..
Billie Jo – No troubles here.
* not —left out the word “not” as in not meant to shame..
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RE: bolding, etc….
*GUIDE TO EFFECTIVELY HIGHLIGHTING THINGS IN YOUR POST* (to make our post-thread-navigating easier & more efficient):
– Suggestion: When appropriate, use headings or TOPIC lines… highlighted in bold or in CAPS or surrounded by **asterisks**, etc…
– ALSO…**highlight** (in bold or italics or w/*asterisks*, etc) the most important or main or salient point(s) or info in your post… the key words or sentences… the gist-kernel(s)… (or the “news flashes,” etc)… but don’t overdo it!
…*Making key info “stand out” (in bold, etc) is very helpful, esp. for us busier folks or for anyone on those busy days when we have to scroll down more briskly through the hundreds of posts… it really helps us quickly “get” what’s being discussed or find any relevant info (so we know where to stop to read what’s relevant or of interest to us).
…* Note how effectively the key sentences and points are put in bold in the letters we get from Hillary and Bill, in Greta’s blogs, etc, etc.
– Other ways to grab attention and increase readability:
…Use a variety of formatting and highlighters (but don’t overdo); use ===borders=== (around post or to divide sections); Write short, concise paragraphs with SPACES in between them …or… **present your points in LIST-form** (maybe with bullets or numbers)…
– Use attention-grabbing words (for whole post or sections), like: *ATTENTION!* or *ALERT!* or *NOTICE* or *FLASH!* or *TIP:* or *UPDATE:* or *TALKING POINT:*… etc… Put the urgent words in bold, like: HELP NEEDED!!!
– Also helpful: Give us a brief summary or excerpts or description of whatever you’re putting a LINK to… or maybe LIST the main points of the article you’re linking, etc.
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*** Doing these things [including bolding key (or salient) lines or words, topic lines, etc], can really help us more efficiently deal with, and get the most out of, this blog with its super-long post-threads. Think of us that come home from work and, amidst our busy life, try to ‘catch up’ with the posts (& find over a thousand posts to go through!!!).
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To bold text: <b>text you want in bold</b>
For italics it’s: <i>text you want in italics</i>
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# 258 Thanks Pink, I appreciate your comments.
RIP–Stephanie Tubbs Jones, I will pray for you and your family, you were a bright and shining star in the democratic party and will be sorely missed.
One Love
STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES HAS DIED
OUR PRAYERS FOR HER FAMILY FAMILY AND FOR SENATOR CLINTON, HER DEAR FRIEND
THIS IS MY THIRD ATTEMPT TO GET THIS THROUGH
HOPE IT WORKS
# 271 Sunshinelvr, thanks very much, I do love this place and all the good people here, and I know you do as well.
One Love
I think Hillary has been every effectively neutralized by this…..
http://www.judicialwatch.org/hillarywatch.shtml
omg……i am really saddened!!!! lost for words….. ok gotta go!!
Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died – the news person also said that she is the 3rd AA Congressional woman to die, also a dem party chair and that their have been eight deaths so far – believe all of them were Clinton supporters but don’t quote me – would have to check this out more carefully…………………………
#152maxgrader: Ya know, max, I have read all of your comments for quite a while now and I still have not concluded precisely what your purpose is here.
I find your dark so called humor cynical and condescending.
That is so sad about Stephanie Tubbs!
Stephanie and Wizard, rest in peace and prayers to you and your loved ones.
Prayers for Stephanie Tubbs Jones
What a wonderful, beautiful, intelligent, strong woman. I was fortunate enough to attend Hillary’s rally in Charlotte, NC and to hear her speak. She was such a powerful speaker. Strong, inspiring, funny, witty and you never doubted that she believed in her soul everything she said about our country and about Hillary. Congresswoman, you will be missed.
REPOST FROM ABOVE:
PUMAS, Here’s a PROWL we can all do. Let NY Governor Patterson know we expect an honest roll-call vote. I used my son’s address..ZIP 10044. You may want to use a NY address to be heard. My message:
Dear Governor Patterson,
Millions of us sincerely hope that you and the NY delegation to the Democratic Convention uphold democratic values and represent the voice of the people. Senator Clinton needs to receive a true roll-call vote, free from delegate intimidation. This means an overwhelming vote of support from the State of New York. Thank you
http://161.11.121.121/govemail
said very softly –>>…wow. True Democrats just lost a friend and champion. We Pumas lost an ally. Her family lost a fine wife , mother, grandmother and loved one. Hillary Clinton lost a close friend and confidant. We must remember her in Denver. Would it be appropiate to have a small sign to say ..In memeory of.. Or in honor of..???
I just read that Stephanie Tubbs is on life support and not expected to recover. So sad. Prayers for her and her family.
284 doria
done
#278 Mountainsong
I can’t open the link. What does it say or mean?
I am so sorry about STJones. I am sick that all this is happening. I feel just awful.
I am also having a real hard time posting here. Anyone else?
Thanks for the post, doria. Maybe you could repost it in bold (I don’t know how to do that even though instructions for doing so have been posted, I’m just a complete idiot when it comes to technology).
For the sake of clarity…
I never said I had a problem with those who, individually express “love”, or feeling of familial ties with this group or other individuals. What I was trying to convey is I don’t appreciate it when people use inclusive “we” statements with regard to opinions or sentiments for others, because those statements may not apply to everyone.
I think it’s great that some feel love for other PUMA members. I, myself, hold some in high esteeem, and do actually love some of our PUMA members. I just don’t want others to decide, assume, or announce who I love, without having the slightest clue if their statement is true or not.
284 doria
can’t get the link to work..will keep trying
She passed away.
What I see as a distraction is the insensitivity on this blog …………. Unbelievable.
Guess I missed the day when we lost the right to an opinion and caring about someone who has died.
Need to take it off the boards for awhile…………AGAIN
288 4hillinca~~~ Copy the link and paste it to your browser.
She didn’t make it.
does anyone know if you are supposed to recieve a confirmation email from mama about the donations for the signs? will anyone be letting us know who will carry our names? I just donated and requested that someone please carry my name..I don’t care who does it..but I sure would be appreciative..
TIP RE: USING LOBBY DELEGTES SERVICE
They have not updated their e-mail data base in a while, so if you use their e-mail service, expect a fair number of your letters to come back as undeliverable.
Their fax data base still seems pretty accurate. The last time I used them to fax my letters, only 19 came back out of 800! And, they will send you the report of which got returned along with snail mail address if you want to send you letter that way. HOWEVER, faxing 800 long distance calls is expensive, so they ask if you can possibly donate $100 to help defray the costs. I did that for a while and no am flat broke, so back to e-mailing. But, as I saw, expect a certain rate of return e-mails at this point.
If you want to do a mass fax, you can e-mail the contact person (Ken Laureys)and make arrangements with him. He is very very helpful and accommodating.
Please pull together and leave the past in the past.
We just lost a staunch ally in our fight for Hillary.
Denver is days away; we have many new members.
Pumas agree to disagree and never turn on each other.
#259 Mountain Song
I tried to read the link. But anything that begins with “Hillary’s past crimes and corrupt behavior” leads me to believe they are not an objective entity.
I take it with a grain of salt.
#255 Daddysdarlin:
Expressing love is so much more difficult than spewing the opposite. But, you made it look easy.
I appreciate your “One Love” concept very much indeed. Even after the challenges of life you mentioned in your post you seem content and positive toward the human race. I’m glad there are pumas like you around. You make people feel happy, if not happier.
You have made my day.
#257 Anna7000
I been a busy puma
Emailed all Indiana delegates..
emailed media sources with info on Bought Delegates
and worked dilligently on the denver video….All while working!
281 NewOrleansPuma & others
leave maxgrader alone –
there is nothing sinister in his posts.
we have places to go, people to see, and all other such nonsense – lol lol
write a sympathy card, email a super delegate -
read daddysdarlin, pink puma and similar posts – there was no harm, no foul………………………
ugh. too many typos in my last post to even begin to try to correct. sorry.
I feel very badly about the congesswoman’s passing. But she is not the only one who’s death recently has touched my life.
I only know that bad things happen to good people, and good things can happen to bad people.
It’s just how life is and a reminder to be grateful for NOW and the blessings we share at this moment. NOW is all we ever really have.
I’m just so heartbroken over Stephanie Tubbs Jones passing. It hurts. She was always so positive, jovial, and LOYAL. Her speeches and news commentaries always made me smile.
My condolences to her family and friends.
caracal carrie – sounds like you have the benefit of youth on your side. boundless energy. way to go!
Maxgrader — I DO know she thinks you are very trustworthy and so do I! Off the subject now…
#51 ladyhawke
your letter was great. I used it as the inspiration/base for my letter to the supers.
This link is worth posting again. You guys- this is the super easy place to go!
http://www.lobbydelegates.com/default.aspx
I got the link to work doria! action is done! Now I will go do all those mailings to let people know who accepted donations, then refused to vote as the people dictate..
299 mlhath ~~~~ Apparently you missed the part about this all coming from the Justice Department….not Obama’s campaign.
mountain song – wise wise words.
and to all, sorry if my recent posts seem at all insensitive. i don’t mean them to be. obviously, the loss of congresswoman jones is incredibly sad. i’m in a mode whereby i have to put that on the back burner for another time, but really don’t mean to or want to impose a tone that negates in any way the sadness of her death or the loss anyone here feels about it.
now they are changing the story about tubbs-jones..
Fox reporting Stephanie is still alive!!!
296 Sunshinelvr on 08.20.08 at 2:25 pm does anyone know if you are supposed to recieve a confirmation email from mama about the donations for the signs? will anyone be letting us know who will carry our names? I just donated and requested that someone please carry my name..I don’t care who does it..but I sure would be appreciative..
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Mama PUma was not taking care of the signs and post cards. CUinDenver@gmail.com was in charge of this. No one that I know of got a confirmation, your receipt was you confirmation. I hope this helps you.
May be worth using for PUMA purposes. Have at it! LOL
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But the presidential candidates are spending August honing their plans and preparing for the final dash to the finish line. This is the time when they MUST
hear from all of us who have had it with politics as usual.
If you haven’t yet contacted Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama, email and ask them to tell you how they will work across the aisle for real change in America.
http://capwiz.com/aarp/issues/alert/?alertid=11676301
Already emailed? Make a bigger impact with a direct phone call! Call Sen. Obama at 1-800-891-9249 and Sen. McCain at 1-800-457-4373 and ask them how they will produce results for American families.
Thank you for standing with us in the fight to change Washington and restore the American Dream.
Sincerely,
The Divided We Fail Team
P.S. Our August Divided We Fail Update listed an incorrect phone number for Sen.
Obama. You can reach Sen. Obama at 1-800-891-9249 and Sen. McCain at
1-800-457-4373. We sincerely regret the error!
fox – this minute
family member saying she is in critical conditionm but still alive – with limited brain function
OMG STJ is in critical condition! HOW TERRIBLE THEY ARE CONFUSING THIS SITUATION!
Confirmations will come out tonight or tomorrow on the postcards and signs.
Don’t worry!
Stephanie, may God Bless your family during this time of grief. She has passed.
http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/17240409/detail.html
Fox news says they are getting conflicting stories. Doctors say critical and YES she is still alive.
One source on capital hill got confirmation she died. They are going on the hospital she is still alive.
http://news.aol.com/article/congresswoman-dies-after-aneurysm/141185
299 mlhath ~~~ ” A mind is like a parachute~~it works best when it’s OPEN.”
OMG fox is flip flopping
I thought about using my sister’s address, since she lives in NYC, but I wanted the Governor to know his actions were known across the country, not just to his own state.
Governor Paterson,
I was shocked to hear after your previous support of Senator Clinton that you would encourage your delegates to vote for anyone else on the first ballot in Denver. Hillary Clinton may not have asked for this, but the *voters* have. My own Governor, Ed Rendell, has figured this out and plans to lead PA’s pledged delegates in voting for Senator Clinton on the first ballot. In light of today’s polls (Reuters/Zogby’s) where McCain is actually beating Obama, I would think that you would, at least on the first ballot, show your support for the only Democratic candidate with a chance of winning in November, Senator Hillary Clinton.
Thank you,
xxxxxxxxxx
Oneof18million cracks
yes you are right of course..I did mail it to the correct email..I had to do it over because my paypal account is different from my gmail acct which is different from my sign up as Puma account! lol..I just hope they got it right! Do you suppose I will know who carries my name?
It might be wise to consider that their are polls unending and that they will change like the weather between now and November. As Anna says, we need to stay focused on our current objectives. IMHO
I attended a rally when Bill Clinton here in Toledo in Feb and STJ was there. She was so excited and I loved her enthusiasm. I have a few great pics of her on the stage with Bill and Govern Ted Strickland. Keep your prayers strong.
318 Maryland PUMA
I am going to assume (and we all know what they say about “assuming”
) that you were speaking to me? and thank you very much..
Statement from Senator Clinton
This statement from Senator Clinton is in response to the news of Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones’s aneurysm and hospitalization. We are all praying for Stephanie and her family during this difficult time.
“Stephanie is a strong, remarkable woman with an incredible fighting spirit. My thoughts and prayers are with my dear friend Stephanie and her family at this difficult time,” said Senator Hillary Clinton.
I am so confused. Not gone? May this be a good sign from God.
Let her pull through!
Maryland PUMA you have mail.
That is horrible news about Stephanie Tubbs Jones
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STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES has passed away.
This is very, very sad news for me. My wife and I were big fans of her and we long thought that a Hillary/ Tubbs Jones ticket would be most terrific!
My deep appreciation for all that Stephanie did for Hillary can hardly be expressd in words. My eyes are watering as I write this.
She was one of the biggest campaigners and fighters for Hillary and, I’m sure, is now one of her “angels.”
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* From CNN political ticker article:
– Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio — a Democratic superdelegate and one of Hillary Clinton’s most ardent supporters — died Wednesday after suffering an aneurysm
* From an ABC Political Radar article, posted before she died:
– Tuesday’s condition followed a full day of activity, including planning for an upcoming discussion on electoral reform, scheduled for Sept. 4, 2008 at Cleveland State University.
Tubbs Jones, a top supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., during the Democratic primaries, was scheduled to travel to Denver on August 24, 2008 to attend the Democratic National Convention as a superdelegate
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Media spin is a distraction.
Tubbs Jones, while a very sad situation, is a distraction.
Too many hours blogging is a distraction.
Let’s not stop with Murphy’s prowls. We can all take initiative, be creative, take action on our own as well. Let’s not let up on the pressure. The powers that be need to be hearing from us en masse right up to when votes are cast. This isn’t the time to lighten up on speaking out.
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I have read a lot of things on this blog that have made me step back and really look at the group I have become involved with. But this one is by far, the worst and I have to say, the final straw for me.
I love Puma, it is a fight I will continue to fight. But I no longer care to be a part of this blog. There are too many people on here who do not care if they hurt someone and I want no part of that.
If you read the posts on this thread, you will see what I mean.
hopefully the link was wrong, wouldn’t be the first time! If it isn’t I offer my sincere sympathy for her friends and family
325 Sunshinelvr on 08.20.08 at 2:38 pm Oneof18million cracks
Do you suppose I will know who carries my name?
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I requested if it is possible I would like to know the name of the person who carries mine, but I have no idea if that will be possible. Some members asked others on the blog and know who will. Like Maryland just posted confirmation will come later, so maybe we will find that info out also.
pa dem – i have mixed feelings about the importance of having to live in the state. on the one hand, sometimes state leaders brush you off more easily if you don’t live in their state. but when i contact them about this kind of issue, i always make the case that this isn’t a state-sensitive issue. while pledged delegates represent the voters of their particular state, i also see their role as part of a larger democratic process. and the ny governor is interfereing with that process where he holds no authority. i plan to contact him as a california girl and see what happens.
Anna7000
Please email me ASAP
my brother-in-law recovered from his aneurysm.. it took him a long time to come back..he had to re-learn everything..but he is fine today. he was younger than her though. I wish her well and hope she recovers.
How horrible is this? Can’t the media get anything right?
honest to god…imagine what her family is going through..doesn’t anyone check the facts anymore?
#332 LandiPUMA They are saying this is NOT confirmed. The doctor and hospital are saying she is still alive. One reporter was very careless in reporting she died. This as of 2:45 p.m. Fox News
redraz9 – i Do care if i hurt someone and i posted a bit ago an general apology. i’ve been hurt and fed up at times on the blog as well. it’s a horrible feeling. i do apologize.
Russia leaving NATO wow what next Congresswoman fought for Hillary in OH so I am glad I am part of a group that is going to fight on no matter what the outcome of Denver or November is we need change alright but a different kind than what the democratic leaders are getting away with. Howard on fox
maryland puma – i don’t know your e-mail. i assume you want me to stop posting, and i will. anything else, i need your e-mail. feel free to delete any or all of my posts.
left out Jones-Tubbs
Breaking News
Stephanie Tubbs Jones has not passed away
Doctors held a news conference on her condition she is in critical condition and apparently has no brain activity
Conflicting info
Good lord, if Russia attacks Poland…or Israel attacks Iran, or both, or…….
I’m glad I’ve learned to live in the NOW.
This is what i’m sending out to all Super Delegates:
Last Chance Superdelegates, Please to Do The Right Thing (New Video)
Please, this is not for Hillary, this is for us!! For the people and the good of this country.
Take 5 minutes out of your busy schedule and see what we see.
Sincerely,
Mary Be
Los Angeles, CA.
Puma Democrat
i know we have some fla pumas experiencing hurricane weather – will they please step up and tell us they are ok.
Okay having a real hard time with computer today. Nothing working properly.
#315 Maryland Puma will do this
#284 Doria will do this too.
Alot of work to be done today. We must stay focused and united.
Everyone keep Stephannie Tubbs and her family in your prayers
and a prayer for Hillary would be good also.
#300 maxgrader ,
I’m not feeling well today so hadn’t planned on blogging but I read your story about the loyal dog and was touched by it. I feel like that dog sometimes. Just like he waited for his master everyday I wait to see Hillary come back into the fight. And like that dog I feel like I am waiting for something that won’t come. It was a beautiful story and I am sorry that it was taken out of context. I too have had this happen to me. You are a good Puma so don’t let others get you down.
Another tip on lobbydelegates~~ only fill in required fields. For a long time I was filling in phone # and address. Don’t miss filling zip code that is a required field. Last Fri. I completed all of the states and now will redo some of my favoites like Dan Fowler(SC) and the ones on the bad guy list.
I made my own prowl to SuperDelegates using bits and pieces from things I have collected (Hope there are no typos, but too late if there are) ROAR!:
Dear Superdelegate,
Please stand up for the voters that support Senator Hillary Clinton by voting for her on the first ballot at the Democratic Convention in Denver.
The American people are aware of the caucus fraud and deception which has distorted the delegate count in Senator Obama’s favor.
Here is a link to proof this: http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/
Obama came to the senate bearing monetary gifts to fellow democrats. We are aware that Obama gave large sums of money to super delegates to “buy” their support. We are aware that as the
Democratic convention nears, the Obama campaign is intimidating delegates and superdelegates to prematurely “secure” their votes for Obama and that they are also threatening Hillary Clinton with a highly funded opponent in the future. This is becoming public knowledge and Obama is dropping in the polls.
Here is a website radio link so you can hear it for yourself if you don’t believe me: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT
(It is the radio show on August 17, 2008,
“Tonite is delegate night! Dr. Lynnette Long will be joining us. Then, Michele Thomas of HRC 300 Delegates petition will be with us, Sacha Millstone (CO delegate who may lose her Hillary delegate status) and Deb Bartosevich (WI delegate who did lose her Hillary delegate status). Listen in and learn how your party officials are subverting your vote.”
This is not the America that we want for our future, where our votes are for sale to the highest bidder. An America where delegates and superdelegates are “pressured” to declare who they will vote for before the convention votes are cast and where party leaders advise them not to sign the petition some delegates are circulating to have Hillary Clintons name put into nomination at the democratic convention.
Many Americans are prepared to take action against electing these same politicians that are enabling party leaders to put their will over the will and votes of the American people. Contributions from all over the country have helped to fund a signature drive for a candidate to run against Nancy Pelosi. This should be a signal to ALL democratic politicians that in the future, rhetoric and money will not “buy” your success when the will of the people is to defeat your election. Expect to be challenged, expect voters to be immune to rhetoric, and learn that money alone will not “buy” your success.
The Democratic primaries have opened up the eyes of many Americans. It has exposed the bias of cable news networks and the pundits to the point that Americans distrust them and are becoming immune to their rhetoric and spin. The American people are ready for a “change”, but just not the change that the democrats and Obama had envisioned. In the process of exposing those within the party that are gaming the system and the American people, Obama has exposed himself as the one of the most “bought and paid for” politicians of our time, who is scratching everyone’s back to “buy” his way into the Whitehouse.
Once again I urge you to have the courage to stand up for Hillary, to stand up for her voters and to stand up for Democracy and vote for her on the first ballot. She is the candidate that can win against Senator John McCain.
Thank you for taking the time to read my message, to listen to the links I included and for having the courage to do what is right.
Billie Jo xxxx
xxxx County
xxx, California Democrat
PUMA PAC Democrat
I am sending out warnings to bloggers for straying too close to breaking the rules of the blog.
We are nearing Denver and the fruition of all our efforts. This is a highly charged situation for all of us.
We all need to step back, regain our focus, and move forward.
Oneof18million cracks… on 08.20.08 at 2:46 pm wrote:
[[#332 LandiPUMA They are saying this is NOT confirmed. The doctor and hospital are saying she is still alive. One reporter was very careless in reporting she died. This as of 2:45 p.m. Fox News]]
Wow… really?! I had just checked the CNN site (before writing my post) and they were reporting she died at the top of their political ticker.
If she’s still alive and pulls through (AND I PRAY SHE DOES!)… I hope someone can delete my post (#332).
I offer a sincere apology to ANYONE here at ANYTIME if I have offended you. This is why I do not post very much either. I will continue to read the blog and do my prowls and support Puma in any I can.I do hope everyone has a lovely, lovely day. Oh, and btw, I am NOT offended by anything anyone has said on this blog.We are all different individuals and we all have our own opinions, that is life. Of course we won’t always agree. And who would want to be surrounded with a bunch of “yes-men”? Different opinions encourage creativity and growth! Keep the faith Pumas!
346 MountainSong
speaking of “now” –
does anyone know if it is true that “now” did not step up to the plate when ludacris sang/rapped (?) his nasty remarks about hillary?
333 redraz9, I am sorry you feel that way. Today seems to be a day with a tone of what you are describing. I needed to leave and take a break because of the tone. I think a lot of the PUMAs are exhausted, over doing things, not taking breaks and also very anxious as the days get closer to the convention. We need to be more supportive and more kind. Think before we speak. As much as the focus is to do the Prowls, it is also human for us to care about STJ and to express our feelings with one another.
This is such an unexpected thing to wake up to. She is a great Warrior for the Democrats. Let’s all just take a deep breath, apologize for any insensitive comments and maybe take a break. The media is causing a lot of hype with the VP pick and this unfortunate accident with STJ. Let’s all just regroup and remember we are PUMA and as Murphy says, “Be good to one another.”
I have to step away from the PC for a bit before I go bonkers.
Please be nice to each other.
# 300 maxgrader, diva2, sunshinelvr,pink, I have tears in my eyes as I write, you have beautiful spirits and are gracious human beings, thank you for making my day maxgrader, I sooo needed that, you have no idea. I could not have needed the love of the Pumas more today than I ever have. It’s been a rough one. I feel your love and may God bless you all.
One Love
****** PLEASE EVERYONE STOP ********
TAKE A DEEP BREATH… WE ARE ALL STRESSED TO THE MAX….
ANNA 7000……. YOU ARE one of many who are the life-blood of this blog and I have learned alot from you…. Your intelligence and committment are unquestioned….
STOP it all of YOU>>>>>>>>>> I AM GETTING VERY UPSET BY THE DISCORD HERE….. WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN COMMON…. PLEASE……..
**** DADDYSDARLIN **** YOU WERE ESPECIALLY MISSED ON THIS BLOG AND I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK
I don’t think my last post made it-LOL
Please support The Denver Group!!!
They have bought airtime on Letterman during the convention and are in the process of buying more!
here is the link to a video I just pub for them, please share!
Take Care All! and many Thanks ; )
PUMA POWER!
here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqIjPMf6zI
Always,
Deb
wildflowersandi on youtube
#350 texassherry:
Amazingly I’m still here; but the Hachiko story is back there where it belongs. Time to move forward. I’m okay with myself and others being themselves. It’s all good, really.
But the focus is now on someone NOT okay–Ms. Stephanie Tubbs Jones. I’d rather be kept abreast of her status.
None-the-less… thank you for your post. Hope you’re feeling better soon. Take care of yourself and we’ll talk more as pumas later.
REPOST FROM ABOVE:
PUMAS, Here’s a PROWL we can all do. Let NY Governor Patterson know we expect an honest roll-call vote. I used my son’s address..ZIP 10044. You may want to use a NY address to be heard. My message:
Dear Governor Patterson,
Millions of us sincerely hope that you and the NY delegation to the Democratic Convention uphold democratic values and represent the voice of the people. Senator Clinton needs to receive a true roll-call vote, free from delegate intimidation. This means an overwhelming vote of support from the State of New York. Thank you
http://161.11.121.121/govemail
# 300 maxgrader, diva2, sunshinelvr,pink, I have tears in my eyes as I write, you have beautiful spirits and are wonderful human beings, thank you for making my day maxgrader, I sooo needed that, you have no idea. I could not have needed the love of the Pumas more today than I ever have. It’s been a rough one. I feel your love and may God bless you all.
One Love
219 Anna7000
“mzebest. i’m no good with technology and have no patience for figuring it out. if you are so inclined, could you post or re-post the stuff about patterson for folks who may want to take action. seems like one of the few things in the blog today really worthy of attention as far as urgent action needed. seems to be right up there with the whole rendell memo urging pledged delegates not to sign the petition in my view.”
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I’m currently at work and slowly making my way through reading the posts in my spare time. Sorry for the delayed response to your post directed my way — but is the posted material below what you wanted?
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#159 marcelka
ACTION: Call David Patterson!
by: Alegre
Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 21:46:05 PM EDT
Hat-tip to CatFish for bringing this article to my attention
Seems the good Governor New York hasn’t gotten the latest memo. Hillary’s going to be on that roll call ballot and he needs to get the state’s delegation lined up behind their Senator. He needs a talking-to! He needs to follow the lead of Ed Rendell.
New York governor says…:
New York’s delegation to the Democratic National Convention will vote to nominate Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois for president, not Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, Gov. David Paterson said Monday.
“Believe me, the New York delegation will be all casting our ballots, as far as I know, on the roll call for Senator Barack Obama,” Paterson said during an interview on WNYC radio. “I don’t believe Senator Hillary Clinton is asking anyone to vote for her.”
“I don’t believe…” OMG is this man really that dense? Does he need this sort of stuff spoon-fed to him? Hillary’s going to be on that ballot for a reason. To give her delegates the chance to cast their vote for her. Especially, you know… her PLEDGED DELEGATES. How can he try to take that away from her supporters and deny Hillary’s 18 million voters a voice?
So let’s contact the good Governor and ask him (respectfully) to back his state’s Senator and our one shot at beating the republicans and re-taking the White House – Hillary Clinton.
Email Form – http://161.11.121.121/govemail
Phone – 518-474-8390
Snail Mail (does anyone use this any more?)
David A. Paterson
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
Okay having a real hard time with computer today. Nothing working properly.
#315 Maryland Puma will do this
#284 Doria will do this too.
Alot of work to be done today. We must stay focused and united.
Everyone keep Stephannie Tubbs and her family in your prayers
and a prayer for Hillary would be good also
Coming out of lurker mode to tell everyone to CHILL. I know how everyone feels…on edge, a little sick to your stomach, scared, hopeful, over anxious, feeling like you have to move move move, but have to stay stay stay.
Everyone reacts to these emotions differently and some can’t relate to others because of how they are handling these emotions versus how others handle the same emotions. Blogging allows many things, but it does not allow any of us to get across emphasis or emotion thru a simple written blog.
Would be great to say that as of this post we all start fresh with no resentment or apologies or anger or justification.
Fight the good fight Pumas.
This is so very sad. I’m so sorry she is gone. Stephanie was such a loyal person, brave too, to stand up for who and what she believed in no matter what. No matter what.
What do we do? What can we do for her friends and family?
There should be some words and a moment of silence to pray for her and her loved ones at The Rise/ Puma Pac candlelight protest in Denver.
# 360 bmw60, It feels good to be back, I missed writing, but sometimes I am a bit shy and like to stay in on the sidelines.
I was trying to get to Denver, but have to be moved from my house by the end of the month, haven’t even packed, too overwhelming for me. My son is gone and I don’t know where he is, he has a heroin problem and has left the state and I don’t know where he went to. I am so scared for him… I know that God’s loving arms will protect him.
Love you Pumas!!!
One Love
# 356 Oneof18millioncracks – Your post is so insightful, sensitive, and unbelievably all-inclusive. Thank you for what you wrote.
# 359 bmw60 – Thank you for your post, as well.
To everyone – I am truly sorry if my frenzy of posts today has felt insensitive. I believe one post, in particular, had a comment that I completely agree was unfair, insensitive and unncessary. As I said in an earlier apology, I have also had times on the blog when I felt the language or tone was really upsetting and I had to speak up and/or step away. I hate to think that I was the cause of that for anyone else, particularly because of the nature of this very sensitive issue – the life of another.
I offer my very deep apologies and will step away to give others the space to return. Sometimes, at least I hope, it helps when you don’t see the name of the poster who so upset you, for a while.
355 Blue Blue Gal ~~~ Whatever…..that was then, this is now. And the focus is on what needs to be done now.
#220 slyt2
“Oh lord I’m gonna be sick, foxnews is saying they are sure he is going to pick Hillary Clinton for VP now because she is the strongest candidate and BO is losing and he needs a strong candidate and she is basically the only one who can more or less save him.”
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Before I start seeing a lot of posts of people jumping to conclusions on this one… please wait to see how things play out and don’t even worry.
First — no matter what you hear on the news… I’m 99.9999% positive Obama will never pick Clinton cause he is too arrogant to give her the satisfaction of being picked. He takes great joy in NOT picking her.
Second — even if he did — I’m equally 99.99999% positive HRC would refuse the offer. She’s too damn smart and she knows he’s poison. Do not for one moment underestimate the intelligence of the Clintons. They know what to do.
Would everyone please stop apologising and buck up instead of sucking up? LOL
Hi brother & sister Pumas..
Stephanie Tubbs according to Fox news is in critical condition with little brain function. Previous reports were misunderstood. Her family is requesting prayer for her.
I didn’t know her but I finally stopped crying. Great lady..all Pumas send good thoughts her way!
323 pa dem on 08.20.08 at 2:37 pm
Nicely done — cuts right to the chase!
Hope you don’t mind, but I co-opted your e-mail (minus the PA reference) as the basis for my PROWL to Governor Patterson.
# 370 Anna7000–I doubt there is one person on this blog that has ever had a problem with you. Your tireless efforts on our behalf do not go unnoticed!!!
You are needed here, don’t ever go, you are an amazing Puma and I for one am proud of you!!!
One Love
OK, too much sentiment here and not a lot of productive work going on. Off to write more letters. Will check back in later when, hopefully, the mood has changed. Take care, Pumas.
******* NOTES FROM THE UNIVERSE FOR ALL ******
AHHHHHHHHHHHH, let’s see here, whose day shall I make? Whose week? Year? Entire life? Whos thoughts shall I endow witht he power to become all things? Who will be made invincible to every challenge, and who shall I catapult over every obstacle? Who will get a second chance, a third chance? No, Not enough. Whose “life reset button: shall I hit whenever they want a “do-over”? Who will eat their cake, and have it too????
Oh, there I go again. Fantasizing, pretending, wishing it was really me who gets to decide such things—dang it. Wishing I could bestow such blessings, instead of just being the “techie” behind the scenes allwed to perform my miracles and magic only when called upon and believed in. It’s like I’m life’s Maytake repairman.
USE ME. PLEASE. So that I may fill your every cup, grant your every wish, and harvest your every dream. And let’s begin today.
Gues I had to let that out.
Love you, whatever you choose.
The Universe
PS—It couldn’t possibly be any easier than it is!!!!
Hope this will encourage you all to remember the UNIVERSE is on your side if YOU determine that YOU want it to …. Use the Universe… for all of you wishes and that means starting now!!!
ok so far today we have buried Stephanie Tubbs-Jones about 6 times and reincarnated her about 7. Please stop listening to the media that has not been right on a single damn thing with any of the people involved in this election.
We;’re worse than bo for flip flopping today!
It’s understandable that as the convention inches closer we’re all going to feel more and more anxious. We do need to be respectful of one another because in a way, we’re all we have (does that make sense?)
We’ve stuck together through the good and the bad and right now we’re going to need more support than ever. The convention is where it all hits the fan. Those of us who have decided to vote for McCain if Hillary isn’t the nominee are looking at the convention as a final shot at not having to “defect” (couldn’t think of another word) to the Republican side.
I’m sure some of the anxiety/nervousness comes from not knowing who *61 has chosen as his VP…I’m sure once we know (and its NOT Hillary) we’ll feel a little better about things, knowing we won’t have to “vote against” her…
For me, I’m battling with the feelings of anxiety and sheer terror: I know Hillary could run again in 4 years, but the DNC would have ample time to groom someone else to run against her. I’m not sure if I can wait another 4 years for a great President. I’m looking at impending bankruptcy…IF *61 manages to weasel his way into the GE…I know we’ll fight, but what IF he “wins”???? Russia isn’t making these feelings subside.
I’ve caught myself wanting to respond to comments that have rubbed me the wrong way but I stop and think about what I’m about to say. Sometimes what we write and what we really mean are two very different things.
The convention is a frightening thing because we have no idea what is going to happen.
We just need to be there for one another and remember that we’re all from different walks of life, we have different reasons for being here (with a few reasons being shared by all) and that we’re all equally fed up with being treated like we don’t matter.
Here, we DO matter. And that’s what should really…matter(?)
I for one find it odd that 3 Clinton delegates (or SDs) have been “taken out” (i dont mean that the way it reads. i cant think of the correct term right now):
-The AK Chair: shot
-STJ: Has either passed on or will soon
-Another delegate has broken her ankle (i believe) she is sending a replacement to the convention.
nothing seems to happen to *61’s delegates…i’m not saying any of these events were planned…I’m just paranoid…i for one cannot wait for the convention to get here so i can have some idea of where to go next.
I am at work and don’t have time to read all of the posts but see there are high emotions mentioned in some of the posts.
I refuse to go back and read what the problems are and since we are down to the wire I choose to skip any drama where two PUMAs are at odds. I am burned out emotionally and do everything I can to keep my spirits up and I hope others do the same.
We have to fight the system right now and don’t have time to battle with each other.
Think twice before you derail other PUMAs, it is counterproductive and we are all hurt by it. No apologies, just move forward and make a difference.
PEACE!
371 MountainSong
you mentioned in post 345 the word “now” and put it in bold – it reminded me that i had heard that the national organization for women did not step up to the plate when ludacris sang/rapped (?) his nasty remarks about hillary –
wondering – does anyone knows anything about this?
I just wrote to David Patterson to let him know I will not ever vote for him for governor if the New York State delegates do not vote for their own senator. I am from upstate New York and am appalled to hear his lack of support for her and his use of his position to indicate that the New York delegates will vote for Obama. I hope other New York State residents will let him know that he will lose votes if he maintains this position.
#300 Caracal Carrie
If there is an Indiana delegate email list, could I please have it? Will do the superdelegate list on lobbydelegates.com, but if there is another list, would like to do it also.
Thanks.
***** NOTES FROM THE UNIVERSE FOR ALL OF US ****
Can you imagine having made a difference in so many lives that people everywher talk about you for the rest of their lives?
Can you imagine truly leaving the world a better place than you found it? Can you imagine that all the angels might know your name?
You have. It’s done. They do.
Good God Almighty, what are you gonna do next?
Just one of your many fans,
The Universe
#379 TrishfromCanada .
Oh no, I’m not updating any more flip-flop flier
http://www.raptureready.com/rapnews_db.php
Above is a great link to obtain a quick overview of worldwide events, first one today is on BO.
omg. WHAT is going on? She was in “grave” condition, then “unstable” then “critical,” then “life support,” then she died, and now she is “alive” but dead on life support.
What the hell is wrong with the media, and why in the world did they cover this so horribly?
#386 MadLogic
awwwwwwwww please if i ask very nicely
btw thank you for the images, that was very nice of you
Maryland PUMA posted this a few days ago. Hope it is okay to repost today. Seems we all need a time out. A very stressful day.
426 Maryland PUMA on 08.18.08 at 11:02 am PUMAS!
STOP what you’re doing for two minutes.
Take your hands off the keyboard.
Lean back in your chair.
Relax your shoulders, back and neck.
Breathe deep.
Close your eyes.
Think about what WE have accomplished in two months.
Smile. Cry. (I did)
Give thanks.
Pray for safety and success.
Breathe deep.
Now back to work! Love to you all.
**** MORE NOTES FROM THE UNIVERSE*****
Was it you?
We have soe new “help” here, and our incoming correspondence has been kind of garbled.
Someone was thinking big, I mean really big, and now the entire Universe has been thrown into action, aligning players, circumstances, and coincidences that will miraculously fall into just the right place at just hte right time. It’s changed everything, absolutely everything. The world will never be the same.
Actually, this happens with your every thought. But if it was you, did you mean joy when you said toy?
Sounded like you wanted evert toy? Either way, consider it done, just let us know.
Tallyho*, The Universe
PS–What are you gonna do with a piece of the earth?
*Tallyho! (British for “After the fox!”
Adventurese for “Until we meet again…”)
Ipotter
I used this site
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/default.aspx
GOOD NEWS GOSSIP
The gossip is that BO is going to throw someone else under the VP bus:
http://www.tribbleagency.com/?p=1747
I want to make sure everyone has seen this,
I am making a PUMA video for Denver.
You can send me a pic, a message, some kind of graphic, or a combination of any of that. It is ok to send a personal pic, but it doesnt have to be one. It doesnt cost anything at all.
I will put them all together in a video to be played in Denver.
Send anything you want me to add to
witchway2go@hotmail.com
If any of the male Pumas are interested in a video of just the guys to show men can be PUMAs too please let me know.
Also a lot of people are sending me suggestions on songs! Keep em coming!
Im let me know today about the pics! I need to get the video done today. Thanks!
#389 TrishfromCanada.
No problem! With any work, be it letter-writing or graphics, the end product looks simple to do, but we all know how much tweaking we have to do to get it the right colour, shade, etc…
So Here I am posting this… we have got to use the power of the Universe and stop this negativity… I just know that when I consistently think about what I want from the Universe stuff starts happening.. from the book “The Secret”. If we consistently think and talk about what we don’t want we will get more of the same.
We have all been working so hard to change things and kept a positive attitude with our challenges and emails to Supers. And the Convention changed. Now we have to keep upt the positive work we are doing and not do wishful thinking, but knw that the Universe will supply what we need. We have to work at it though!
So let’s resolve to do the actions… keep positive in our comments and get it DONE.. for our country and for ourselves.
Enough said.
369 DaddysDarlin, I know your anguish. My prayers are with you. In times like this prayer is the only thing that can bring comfort. I know your anguish.
Keep the faith.
WATCH THE FEC
The Campaign Financial Reports are due by MN tonight. They are submitted electronically and available at the FEC site as soon as the system processes them. This generally takes several hours. They officially have 24 hours to process.
Records search:
http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/srssea.shtml
I don’t care much for BO but I sure as heck hope he is smart enough to choose Hillary as his VP.
He needs her to win, he knows that.
He needs her to govern, he knows that.
He needs her diplomacy skills,he knows that.
He needs her ability to connect with Dems as well as Republicans, he knows that.
I believe SHE ought to be our 44th Prez, but in the event he comes out of the convention as the nominee, then I will gladly support HRC as VP. How can I not???? She is brilliant, hardworking, she is a natural-born leader, and frankly I see no sense in waiting another 4 or 8 years. This country needs her NOW, we cannot wait, and if Obama has an ounce of intelligence in him, he will choose her. It is the ONLY way I will ever vote for him, and I won’t be voting McCain no matter what, so rather than sit this one out this time for the first time in 30-something years, I would like to get our Hillary in there so she can start doing the good work and this country can get back on track again. IT WILL TAKE HER.
REPOST
REPOST FROM KERRI DOWNSTAIRS
Kerri on 08.20.08 at 4:47 am
Any PUMA’s who are seeking lodging in Denver:
I have found a residence wich can hold any number of people, 3-6, actually, for the price of 50 dollars per person per night. Apparently they are HRC supporters and thus we get a “bargain” rate. Heh, if you ask me, the Coloradians are making a killing!
But, that is neither here nor there! The price is true, as I’ve been searching for days now! LOL This situation has a two large and real beds, two rooms, plus a kitchen area and private bathrooms and entrances.
If you’re interested contact the “host” at mbarfels over at comcast dot net. Also, if you’d be so good as to just drop ME a line to let me know how many spaces you’ve booked, as I’m trying to keep track of such options for other PUMA’s in need of shelter. As ever, I’m reachable at Kerriwyn and that’s over on aol
Alright then.
PS. If someone here is currently ON when the morning thread goes up, if you’d be kind enough to copy this post for the next shift? Thank you
ABOUT 2PM CNN REPORTED THAT STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES HAD PASSED AWAY AND LATER I HEARD THAT SHE HAD NOT.
I’m looking for a song about decisions, indecisions or change, if anyone has any ideas. I’ve boggled my brain and have come up with only one so far and that’s not the one i’m looking for
# 378: I agree, and your writing reminds me to bring this topic up. BO is right now trying to use the Law of Attraction and the Universe to obtain his goals. That is why his no# 1 supporter is Oprah. Together we can fight fire with fire and use this same law to fight back. He states he is the president already because that is how the law of attraction is supposed to work. Like attracts like. Let’s begin to use his own power tool against him ! learn more about this at: http://www.visionboardoflife.com
#392 Caracal Carrie
Thank you.
Trish are you going for upbeat, quirky, or sentimental?
402 TrishfromCanada
mu husband hums under his breadth – “sometime you feel like you want to go, and sometimes you feel like you want to stay” – he says this is from jimmy durante. shall i google/search, etc for you?
402 TrishfromCanada , Not sure if this will help but the first song that came to my mind after reading your post was, “LET IT BE” by the Beatles
Trish
Maybe?? http://www.metrolyrics.com/change-lyrics-taylor-swift.html
402 TrishfromCanada on 08.20.08 at 3:33 pm
“Both Sides Now”…?
TOPIC: Music for Videos
CARRIE:
I love the Dixie Chicks & have that song, but I think standing up for Hillary calls for something more positive & “take charge” sounding! Maybe the video should use different songs?
Additional ideas / suggestions (the first one is an oldie):
* Simply the Best – Tina Turner
* How Far We’ve Come – Matchbox 20
positive, new, catchy chorus “Let’s See How Far We’ve Come!”
* Better Now – Collective Soul
catchy, new, catchy chorus, “Tell the world now, I’m feeling better now” etc.
* Hold On – KT Tunstall – this one might actually be the best pick for convention, cause it’s new, by a woman, and the chorus describes our delegate situation to a “T”: “Hold on, to what you’ve been given lately/ Hold on, to what you know you’ve got / Hold on, to what you’ve been given lately / Hold on, cause the world will turn / If you’re Ready or Not!”
#402 TrishfromCanada: What style of music?
Cnn-
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio — a Democratic superdelegate and one of Hillary Clinton’s most ardent supporters — was hospitalized in critical condition Wednesday after suffering an aneurysm, the hospital said.
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones suffered an aneurysm Tuesday evening.
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones suffered an aneurysm Tuesday evening.
Dr. Gus Kious, chief of staff at Huron Hospital, said Tubbs Jones had limited brain function.
The aneurysm is in “an inaccessible part of her brain,” Kious said.
“She remains in critical condition at present in our intensive care unit. Our thoughts and prayers are with her family at this very difficult time,” he said.
Earlier reports had said Tubbs Jones had died.
Tubbs Jones, 58, was rushed to Huron Hospital on Tuesday evening after suffering an aneurysm as she drove in her home district in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, a statement from her office said.
The congresswoman had a full day of activity on Tuesday, the statement said, “including planning for an upcoming forum on electoral reform, scheduled for September 4, 2008, at Cleveland State University.”
Pumas!!! We must continue to FOCUS!!! Stop the negativity…and get all the emails and comments out that are positive.. and let the Super Delegates know… we will be here in November, when we will again, make our cause s known, and we will not forget!!!
I just sent my letter to Gov. Patterson and I used my brothers address.
I’m also sending out the video that Murphy has on open thread today, so go take a break, do some pilates, or yoga, or take a walk…come back refreshed and get to work!! We’re so close…so close…can you feel it?
wow we must all be on the same sheet of music so to speak as I’m just on my lunch break & didn’t know the music selection was still up for discussion, haha!
Hope you liked my ideas & now I need to finish lunch & get back to work. GO, PUMAS!!!
I’d like upbeat and quirky if possible
thanks Hills wrote em all down!
Hi Trish – all the songs I posted are upbeat!
Nothin’ like shuttin’ the barn door after the horse is out!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080820/ap_on_el_pr/primary_scramble
Democrats to review nominating process
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
WASHINGTON – Democratic Party leaders want to regain control of the primary calendar and reduce the number of superdelegates through a new commission announced Wednesday.
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They also want to review the caucus system, which presumed nominee Barack Obama used so successfully this year. The commission would work over the next year and make recommendations by January 2010.
All the issues are potentially troublesome, with few easy solutions.
Officials said the commission would be formed at the party convention in Denver. The convention’s rules committee will take up the matter at a meeting Saturday, two days before the convention starts…..
Hi Carrie, check ‘em out, I think you’ll like them!! The Collective Soul one is on youtube right now.
BBL tonite, bye!
Trish how about “did you ever have to make up your mind” by the lovin spoonful
Trish…Should I Stay or Should I Go? By Clash
Lyrics here:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/clash/should+i+stay+or+should+i+go_20031789.html
#406 Blue Blue Gal
If you can I would greatly appreciate it, I’m trying to pull something together
woops: he is SELLING tix to his coronation VIA A SECRET LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUD6tvSvUd8&eurl
All you video makers:
There’s a song by Incubus that would be ideal for a video. It’s called MEGALOMANIAC. Don’t know why I didn’t think of it before. Incubus is alternative.
#410 hills the one….yes. i love the tina song, but I haven’t heard the new one, but i like what i read…so i’ll find it and listen..thanks for the input…
also video makers…not on change subject but “go” by the indigo girls would make for a fantastic video
lol they are all great, keep them coming please
#310 Anna7000 on 08.20.08 at 2:32 pm
Anna, I respect your motivational techniques and could not agree more!
Keep fighting!
#413 Mary Beth613 on 08.20.08 at 3:39 pm
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Good job! Keep growling Puma!
Speaking of music, I have been thinking that the Pac needs to use the NOT READY TO MAKE NICE as our theme song. Low and behold, several posters suggested that in this thread earlier. We Pumas seem to be on the same wave length a lot of the time. LOL.
DC omg I saved that one for my next Obama video LOL
great minds
415 TrishfromCanada on 08.20.08 at 3:39 pm
Quirky and upbeat:
Sugababes, “Change”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBT-V-hj4Y0
THE FREAKIN AUDACITY:
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-looking-to-diminish.html
After what we all went through during the primaries, it’s good to see that Obama is looking to, ahem, changing the status quo:
Barack Obama’s campaign will call next week for the creation of a new commission to revise the rules for selecting a presidential nominee in 2012 with a goal of reducing the power of superdelegates, whose role became a major point of contention during the long battle between Obama and Hillary Clinton.
The commission also will be urged to redraw the calendar for 2012 to avoid starting the primaries and caucuses so early, and also to look specifically at assuring more uniform rules and standards for those caucuses.
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the campaign will ask the national convention delegates in Denver to approve a resolution approving the establishment of a 35-member Democratic Change Commission. The charter would authorize the Democratic National Committee chairman appoint the commission soon after the election and ask them to report back by January 2010.
The proposed changes grow out of discussions between Obama’s campaign team, officials at the Democratic National Committee and representatives of Hillary Clinton’s former presidential campaign, Plouffe said.[...]
“The number of super delegates has gotten too large in relation to overall delegates,” Plouffe said. “We want to give more control back to the voters…. Everyone thinks there ought to be more weight given to the results of the elections.”[...]
The other significant change is the call to redraw the primary and caucus calendar. The 2008 calendar drew significant criticism both for the early starting dates for the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries, and also because there were so many states crowded into the first month of what turned out to be a five-month campaign.
As envisioned by the Obama and Clinton campaigns, most contests could not be held before March, except for a handful of states authorized to go earlier — presumably in February rather than January.[...]
The other major area the commission will be asked to examine is the operation of caucuses in states that choose that process rather than a primary. The caucuses drew criticism, particularly from the Clinton campaign, which said they restricted participation and that in some states lacked the necessary infrastructure to insure fairness.
I’m sure we can expect the usual Democratic infighting over these issues. Herding cats and all that.
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS SATIRE.
ALERT! ALERT!! PUMAS BE CAREFUL IN DENVER!!! FEDS HAVE RAISED TERROR ALERT!
ALEhttp://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/convention_terror_threat/2008/08/19/123539.htm
#396 bmw60 on 08.20.08 at 3:29 pm
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Thank you, beautifully stated. Let’s get-r-done folks! We can pray for STJ and fight the good fight all at the same time. We’re multi-tasking Pumas! Stay after those delegates, this is by far not the time to let up. Write, email, call – stay focused and just get-r-done. We have not come this far to get side tracked now.
#431 Carrie
Great song! Love Incubus! (thanks to my daughter)
#433 Taggles
Don’t you just love it? BO uses the system as it is to his advantage but is going to make sure no other candidate can do the same. Talk about audacity!
pumas
if he picks HILLARY, and she accepts
it might be because thete is something going on
that we do not know
and that way she is already in line
otherwise will be someone unknown
which will make impossible to get the wh
just picture
BILL & HILLARY, pretentious & precious running around the wh¡¡¡¡¡¡
#434 fineartistinoil on 08.20.08 at 3:50 pm
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ALL Americans everywhere should always be alert. Likely this has nothing to do with anything going on in Denver. Word on the ’street’ is that there is increased chatter about potential threats to water supply systems in this country. But this raising of the terror alert is normal during major events like the upcoming political conventions.
In other words, stay calm AND alert everyone – not just those traveling to Denver.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2008/aug/judicial-watch-launches-investigation-effort-intimidate-conservatives
also looking into obamas link to Ayers. U of Chicago holding back papers. Aug. 20th this one
found lookinf at other post. This group might be handy to keep on roladex:)
Ugh….can’t stand the Dixie Chicks and that song, Not Ready to Make Nice, grates on my nerves to the point of a Migraine. Oh well…that’s why they made volume controls.
Taffy look see what I did thanks so much as to how to do it. Watch out now everyone LOL
Thanks to everyone else in helping me to get this down You are all awesome .
Candle Lights Set to Rise
In Commemoration of Hillary Clinton’s Historic Presidential Campaign!
will take place on the evening of August 25th from 6 until 10 p.m., in
beautiful downtown Denver’s Cheesman Park.
NEW event, Special prayer for Hillary
On August 26th, there is going to be a 7 AM Mass for Senator Hillary Clinton at Cathedral Immaculate Conception, a beautiful church in Downtown, Denver. (1530 Logan st.)
Hillary NOT Releasing Delegates
From, ALEGRE’S CORNER
http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/
I just got a note from a friend who was on a conference call with Hillary yesterday. I want to get two things out here for you guys to ponder before I head out to work… 1) Harold Ickes said the new magic number is 2111.
2) Hillary said a few words about unity and winning in Nov. but she said NOTHING about releasing her delegates. Not a word.
So let’s keep our head down – contact as many delegates as we can in the coming days – and stay strong.
I called Governor Patterson’s office and the woman stated that they did not release a press release stating that he said that. I asked her if she could take a message anyway and give it to him. She did.
#351 BillieJo – Great letter!
CARACAL – YOU LIGHT UP MY LIFE – WIND BENEATH MY WINGS OR BECAUSE YOU LOVED ME
HOPE THESE HELP
#438 I agree that we all have to be aware of our surroundings everywhere. Terrorists are well known for targeting large groups of people. I am not trying to scare anyone, we cannot live in fear but we must be aware.
#434 fineartistinoil:
["ALERT! ALERT!! PUMAS BE CAREFUL IN DENVER!!! FEDS HAVE RAISED TERROR ALERT!"]
No kidding! The DNC is going to try to “nominate Obama”
We’ve been terrified! Where have they been?
#153 ladyhawkke
Going back to an earlier post …
ladyhawkke, if you or MommaE has original source info for the “Bad Guys” payoff list, can you try emailing it to Lou Dobbs rather than trying to get through on the phone line? I would be happy to email Dobbs — I post him all the time, actually — but I don’t have confirmation of the info on the payoff list.
I can understand people not wanting to release their source info on this blog, but if anyone out there knows where this payoff info came from, please email it to Lou Dobbs. Apparently he is interested.
ladyhawkke, what email address did you use for Dobbs?
I have:
loudobbs@cnn.com
NYCgirl
Trish, I like the Johnny Cash song that has lyrics from all across the states…don’t know the name but love it!
Carrie…..Independence Day-Martina McBride…….
Sorry if this has already been posted – Nobama NEEDS Hillary. http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/346742
Barf!! Hillary, don’t do it. He’s insulted you enough. Just pretend to support him and let him sink while you get ready to run in 2012.
Good afternoon everyone. With the critical condition that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones is in, I ask that all of us pray for her healthy and speedy recovery. It is essential that we keep her and her family in our thoughts and prayers throughout this troubling time. Stephanie is a strong charismatic leader and will always be. I understand that some of us are not religious but I think two minutes of our time is worth it. Please do whatever you can! With deepest sadness on this horrible day, Thank you!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080820/ap_on_el_pr/primary_scramble
Isnt this a little too late?
trish don’t know if you find one or not but I was throwing this song around the other day with my 15 year old like trying to make a video about Hillary with it. You are much more talented then me so take a listen and see if you could use it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzyys6kW8yg
I’ve been everywhere man lol! Johnny Cash, a classic!
by the lake
I think it’s called “I’ve been everywhere”
Just heard this on New York Times radio news:
“Sen. Joe Biden says it isn’t him.”
That’s the exact quote re: Junior’s VP.
I am hoping it’s NOT you-know-who …
NYCgirl
I’m listening to it…..man oh man, Hillary has been everywhere man!
Russia is acting up, it goes beyond diplomacy. Neighboring countries of Georgia are all rallying behind Georgia, these countries used to be part of USSR. USA is member of NATO, NObama is subchairman of foreign Relations For Europe, how come he’s not calling an emergency meeting? That is his FREAKING job!
Although we are across the ocean, if Russia is not put in check IMMEDIATELY, this could embroil the whole Europe. And here comes Nobama threatening McCain, telling McCain he doesn’t know what he’s up against – I consider that fighting words loaded with threats.
This election will test the American people, either they’re ideologist or realist. We cannot abandon Europe or ignore it, we better stop Putin in his own backyard; if we don’t, he’ll reach our shores.
Hello everyone,
Some of us have been very quiet but that doesn’t mean we haven’t been writing letters. I’ve written select superdelegates from my state and have contacted Hillary’s delegates from my district. I asked them to respect the wishes of the electorate who chose Hillary Clinton. I expect them to vote for Hillary in the first roll call vote at the convention and every time thereafter- even if Hillary asks them to support BO. Millions still support HC and they should not let the media and BO’s negative campaign tactics get to them. No one said their job would be easy. They need to be strong.
I agree that we should hold those elected officials who voted for BO (despite of the fact that their constituents chose HC) accountable and at the very least we should not vote for them when it comes time for their reelection. That is not vindictive. That’s how democracy works. We elect people so they can represent us, not so they can do whatever they want after they get pay-offs. Also, if HC is not the Democratic presidential nominee then I think we have to seriously consider making the 2008 presidential election a referendum on the Democratic Party.
Finally, I will not vote for BO in November, but I will not leave the Democratic Party. They are going to hear from me again and again until they make the appropriate reforms and acknowledge and rectify their misogynistic behavior and corrupt political tactics.
Go Hillary!
-Lara08
Regarding the talk of a Puma’s theme song…I think we need The Beatles Revolution for our song.
In Washington state we had our primary yesterday. It is the first try of our new system where only the top two vote getters go on to the general election and that could mean 2 Dems in the GE or it could mean no one from the two major parties goes on. Out here we are so sick of this political party BS we went with a system that does not guarantee them a place on the ballot in the General election. Apparently Oregon and Calif are watching closely because they too are sick of the major parties and their BS. In Washington we held presidential primary election which cost us 10 million dollars and the Dems just ignored it and held caucuses which were chaotic .
When you need a break (maybe it was posted before–democracydame video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9fg4HPV_M
I am hoping that it is Hillary. After all when they connect the ties of the Arkansas Democratic Party Leader, Diane Feinsten feeling as though she cannot go to the convention, and Stephanie Tubbs Jones to him, we will need a nominee!
Ok I faxed everyone who went against their constituency and backed Obama instead of Hillary. I also added the list of the Super Delegates with the money that each one of them received.
I just hope my small efforts will make a difference (somehow).
…also praying here for Stephanie Tubbs.
Another break video (under the bus song):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADPCjYtac_U
#433 Taggles1, I cannot begin to describe how that article makes me feel. The temerity of BO knows no bounds. Isn’t that kind of like asking a jewel thief to watch your purse while you go to the buffet table?
#433taggles
now that it has not worked out for them
they want to change
but they used all the time in the world becuase they benefited from , now that is probably working agaist them , they want to change it
can you picture chicago thugs making the rules of the party????????¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
433 taggles1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/caucus-opponents-prepare_n_119665.html
As usual Senator Clinton took the lead Obama wants the credit!
382 Blue Blue Gal ~~~ In the last year, NOW has dropped the ball in several ways, resulting in many of us cancelling our memberships.
#402 TrishfromCanada:
Three songs about change come to mind.
1. Winds of Change by the Bee Gees
2. Changes by David Bowie
And this one called, “Witness The Change”.
Witness the Change
In my mind there are mirrors
Reflecting on the past
The shattered hopes and dreams of a future
That was never meant to last
Just turn around now
Tell me what you see
Look all around you
Is this how things could be
Had enough of love neverlasting
But now I know it never will
Hanging around on the off chance
Waiting for that certain thrill
Just turn around now
See what we have done
It’s getting late now
The future has begun
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Some kinds of love are magical mystical
I wonder how I’d feel
If ever I should be so enchanted
To get a taste of what is real
Just look around now
Tell me what you see
Look all around you
Is this how things could be
I feel the sound of thunder and laughter
It’s tearing me apart
I start to fade till all that’s remaining is
The echo of my heart
Just look around you
See what we have done
It’s getting late now
The future has begun
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
Witness the change
I have a feeling and I know it will never die
Part of the answer for asking the reason why
Out of the darkness the bright light surrounding me
I am a part of everything I touch and see
I feel the sound of thunder and laughter
It’s tearing me apart
I hope that you will remember
The echo of my heart
Witness the change
Witness the change
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The voters in the Democratic party must fight these unlawful caucuses. Because people are pushing to change the bylaws and charter of the party now all of a sudden they want to answer. We must continue to hold them accountable and push to have Hillary become the nominee. Wow have they screwed this up. According to a poll on AOL Mccain leads by 5 points. That is absolutely deplorable. Oh well I wonder if we planned this during the selection process?
Also this song:
Undecided Man by Paul Revere and the Raiders
#424 dcinlasvegas on 08.20.08 at 3:42 pm
All you video makers:
There’s a song by Incubus that would be ideal for a video. It’s called MEGALOMANIAC. Don’t know why I didn’t think of it before. Incubus is alternative.
Alternative is good, song is good. Here is the video. Many might freak at the mention of Jesus name, but maybe a little video sound editing might make it more PC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFnnV595byE
#463 ipotter… That is one of the coolest videos!
No wonder! Love that song! Pink is the best!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9fg4HPV_M
Carrie,
You’ve got mail
470 MountainSong
never could get behind them -
#159 – This is what I wrote to Governor Paterson (borrowed some from above):
Dear Governor Paterson,
I was shocked and saddened to hear that after your previous support of Senator Clinton that you were encouraging the New York delegates to vote for anyone else on the first ballot in Denver. Hillary Clinton may not have asked for this, but her voters have. Governor, Ed Rendell, has figured this out and plans to lead PA’s pledged delegates in voting for Senator Clinton on the first ballot. I urge you to find the courage to join him.
It is exactly this kind of immediate dismissal of those of us who believed in and voted for her to begin with that has caused the Democratic Party to be so deeply divided today. Please inform your colleagues that many of us who voted for her continue to support her and an unbiased, legitimate democratic process; a democratic process that is now being thrown out the window in favor of a coronation instead of a convention to elect a democratic nominee.
As I am certain you and your colleagues understand, no one (NOT EVEN BARACK OBAMA) is the nominee until this process is concluded and a legitimate vote by the delegates and superdelegates confirms this. Those of us who have formed and become involved in coalitions after Senator Clinton suspended her campaign will not be satisfied with the DNC’s mere placement of Senator Clinton’s name in the nomination as a “symbolic” grand gesture to her accomplishments as the first woman to garner so many votes in the primary. We have the audacity to actually expect that her name be placed in nomination, (just as the men who came before her – often with far less pledged delegates), and a legitimate vote take place on the floor of the convention – again just as the men who came before her. You see, a “symbolic” vote for the only woman to garner as much enthusiasm and support as Senator Clinton has and continues to maintain, actually demeans her accomplishments. Never before has a name been placed in nomination only as a “symbolic” gesture for any of the male candidates who have gone before.
Please give serious consideration to joining Governor Rendell in his efforts to ensure that Senator Clinton’s pledged delegates vote for her on the first ballot.
Thank you for your time.
Respectfully,
xxxxxxx
Geraldine Ferraro just on Cavuto. Cavuto said he thinks O will pick Hillary because he is desperate. Geraldine said no he won’t. She said we need to get to know him. We do know him; that’s why we are not voting for him. But it’s true – - O can’t win without Hillary. And if he dares pick another woman VP……That will be his worst move yet. Did I hear O was going to announce his VP in Springfield? Didn’t Senator Clinton live near Springfield as a child?
one of my music favs for PUMA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLp6TNNjMc
stuck in the middle with you
Interesting posts today! I stand firm and against all rumors….Hillary in 2008! History to be made in Denver!
Thanks to all PUMAS that have written, inspired each other, wiped tears away and created videos that speaks to our spirits!
I am one that came here after reading Hillary’s Blog and I know many of you posted there, especially Normita. I wrote her and appreciated her encouragement to continue to stand and light candles.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc
Time to light a candle and reflect on all the good we have accomplished. A humble PUMA! Peace!
by the way the comment about pretencious using THE SECRET tecniques, and the like
one thing is clear
it never, but never works
when someone @ egocentric aptitudes
uses the secrets of our human nature (white magic)
to get what they do not deserve
on the other hand
people of that nature are inclined to use black magic
reference is made to this effect in their biographies
for ej.hitler
422 TrishfromCanada on 08.20.08 at 3:41 pm #406 Blue Blue Gal
If you can I would greatly appreciate it, I’m trying to pull something together
not computer literate, but have found out this much so far (husband not answering cell)- in a movie called – ‘my stepmother is an alien’ with kim basinger, she sang the song. title is – did you ever have that feeling.
will now try to find the written lyrics.
and if anyone knows how to do this, sure could use a pointer or two………………
Wow im going to have to take speed reading classes !
Hello everyone:) Love seeing all the work being done..It’s the final count-down!
Thank you to those who re-posted for me. I am sure anyone who needs room now, has the information.
I’m not quite sure what happened to the PUMA I was supposed to be riding to Denver with. She’s sorta become MIA. So, if anyone wants to ride with me, I’m coming all the way from Long Island. Get at me and we’ll see what we can do.
Gonna get to work now.
Puma: Vigilant, Fearless, Potent!
Maxgrader
Several people have stood up for Normita, but I have to stand up for dogs. Your story must be apocryphal because dogs are loyal but not stupid. While a dog will repeat a behavior for a certain period of time, even they realize when there is no reward, it’s time to change their behavior. Poor timing to tell that story here.
# 475 wont back down WOW-great video.is it you singing?
Pumas wanna walk like a panther? Great song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vmzp5XLaM0
After Barack Obama hype, a backlash
Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 7:42 PM
The headline conveyed urgency: “Obama Ready to Announce Running Mate” said a breathless New York Times. In language worthy of a Madison Avenue pitchman, the paper reported Obama had “all but settled” on his choice and would launch “an elaborate rollout plan” of events.
Holy hype, Batman. Another day, another inflated report on the routine doings of The One.
John McCain’s mocking nickname for Obama came in an ad comparing Obama’s grandiose promises to Moses parting the Red Sea. It was funny, but I’m starting to think it wasn’t a joke. The Obama campaign and its media handmaidens are taking their candidate way too seriously.
So much so that they could be setting up a backlash against the hype. No human being can meet the wildly inflated expectations that accompany the rookie senator’s every move. It can’t help that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called Obama “a leader that God has blessed us with at this time.”
That’s the kind of remark that can turn voters into problems. Most Americans famously resent being told an election is over months before the polls open or that God is taking sides.
Maybe that’s why recent surveys show Obama underperforming. Although Democrats enjoy a 10- to 12-point generic lead over Republicans, Obama and McCain are essentially tied.
The dead heat is a concern to many top Democrats, given the national mood. Although polls at this stage can be notoriously fickle, the anti-Republican sentiment is clear when 81% of voters say the nation is on the wrong track. Such a lopsided finding should be an impossible hurdle for any candidate seeking a party’s third consecutive term in the White House, as McCain is.
While McCain has complained about media favoritism toward Obama, most recently about NBC News’ tilted coverage, maybe he ought to encourage it. Resentment over the media love affair with Obama might be McCain’s most powerful weapon.
The fawning coverage exaggerates even routine Obama events, and when he fails to meet giddy expectations, the excuse machine warps into overtime. That, in turn, creates another unappealing layer of media-imposed conventional wisdom.
Take the results of the weekend faith forum. With most commentators saying McCain did better than Obama in giving straight, clear answers to pastor Rick Warren’s questions, the Obama camp suggested McCain knew the questions in advance. The assumption was clear: Obama is so much smarter that McCain couldn’t possibly win without cheating.
The selection of running mates is following the same script. McCain’s camp said he would make his announcement Aug. 29, and that was matter-of-factly noted. But Obama’s choice is being treated like the Second Coming, as though this is the selection of a certain vice president, not merely a running mate.
The Times, which delivers an almost-daily front-page assault on McCain, pumped up the timing as though Obama’s musings were news. But with the convention less than a week away, Obama can’t wait much longer.
And what does it mean he has “all but settled” on a choice? That’s a snake-oil way of saying he hasn’t made a final decision. And the “elaborate rollout plan” it touted is a fairly routine schedule of joint appearances.
It’s all par for the unfair course. The ombudsman for The Washington Post, Deborah Howell, scolded her paper for running three times as many front page stories on Obama as McCain since June and for publishing about 50% more pictures of Obama. She also cited a wider survey of papers, radio, TV and Web sites that show Obama getting more coverage in eight of the last nine weeks.
So The One has been anointed. If I were running the Obama campaign, I’d be terrified. After all, the last person the media declared inevitable was Hillary Clinton.
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Ain’t that a kick in the head for NObama. ONLY Hillary CAN and DEFEAT McCain………FACT!
WHOVER POSTED THE INFO ON THE CONF CALL REGARDING WHAT IKES SAID. PLEASE REPOST.
THANKS!
What’s our little Murph doing today? Are we off the prowl in masses mode? I know most of us are doing our own prowls now, but I miss freaking the enemy out in mass.
#490 mimi1020 on 08.20.08 at 4:40 pm
WHOVER POSTED THE INFO ON THE CONF CALL REGARDING WHAT IKES SAID. PLEASE REPOST.
THANKS!
Please tell us……
Caracal Carrie
i sent you email~
PLEASE…PLEASE…PLEASE…PLEASE…PLEASE…PLEASE…PLEASE…PLEASE…
“Pledged” delegates in several states, including GA, IN, NH, KY, OR, OK, and TN, among others, are pledged not only under DNC rules but also state laws that bind these pledged delegates to cast at least their first vote at the nominating convention to the candidate to whom they are pledged. Turns out, not everyone knows this, including pledged delegates in those states. Please, copy the primer below, and pass on, including posting on all the blogs to get out the word.
Thank you.
jbjd
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HOW TO STOP HARASSMENT OF CLINTON-PLEDGED DELEGATES
BACKGROUND
Some states have enacted laws that bind their pledged delegates to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged as the result of votes cast in the state’s primary or caucus contest, at least through the first round of voting at the party’s Presidential nominating convention. Therefore, in these states, to threaten, pressure, or coerce pledged delegates to vote for a candidate other than the one to whom they are pledged is to solicit them to break the law.
PURPOSE
To stop harassment of Clinton-pledged delegates in those states that have these vote binding laws, notify the Attorney General of your state, someone is breaking the law.
RATIONALE
As has been reported in the press, in states throughout the country, delegates pledged to Clinton are under siege to switch their allegiance to Obama. A CO delegate was summoned into the office of the state chairman to explain the contents of an email she had sent to a fellow delegate, for expressing loyalty to her candidate. (“Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate”) http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_10170139
A MN delegate was stripped of her delegate status. (“Wisconsin Democrats strip woman of delegate position for saying she will vote for McCain”) http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/25908499.html
A KY delegate for Clinton was replaced with a delegate for Obama. (“Clinton supporters protesting removal of delegate at Democratic National Convention”) http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/WHAS11_POLITICS_080814_CLINTONOBAMA.486a4d97.html
There are two sets of ‘rules’ that apply to state pledged delegates. There are the rules written by the Democratic National Committee in the “Call to the Convention”; and there are rules written by states, which are called laws. State laws always trump DNC rules. For example, DNC rules call for pledged delegates to use their “good conscience” to represent the will of the voters. State laws, however, require delegates to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged, at least through the first round of voting at the nominating convention.
Even DNC party ‘elders’ including Governor Ed Rendell (PA), fail to understand the difference between DNC rules and state laws. Speaking with Neil Cavuto on FOX TV, he opined, delegates are not bound to vote for a particular candidate at the convention. ‘There’s no such thing as a “pledged” delegate. We haven’t had a “robot rule” since the Carter Kennedy convention in 1980.’ Since PA is not a vote binding state, we can understand his confusion. But in fact, in these vote-binding states, the word “pledged” means exactly what it says. If even Ed Rendell is unaware some states have enacted vote binding laws, one cannot assume that Clinton’s pledged delegates are aware of such laws.
Evidence indicates that in addition to the DNC, Obama’s campaign has been pressuring Clinton-pledged delegates. For example, here is a portion of the letter sent to delegates throughout the country from Khalil Thompson out of Obama’s Chicago campaign office.
“Updates: Delegate Paperwork
Fill out you National Delegate Web Survey… http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/delegate
This is one for the Obama Campaign, so if you filled it out for the DNC and the State Party, please we the campaign still needs you to do so…
If you have not filled this out you WILL BE MENTIONED on the call, so please take the time to do so…
(“Bearing Witness”)
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/bearing-witness.html
In any other political season, Clinton could hold her delegates’ hands, safely shepherding them through this nasty onslaught to the convention. But not now. Ever since she suspended her campaign, her delegates have been left to fend for themselves. And that’s where you come in. You can let them know: I have your back.
In those states that have enacted vote binding laws, to threaten, pressure, or coerce those pledged delegates to vote for a candidate other than the one to whom they are pledged is to solicit them to break the law. So, turn them in. Write a letter to your Attorney General, the chief law enforcement official in the state. Include the links already provided to just some of the examples of harassment occurring throughout the country. Send a copy to the Office of the Secretary of State, which in most states oversees the political parties’ participation in state elections, including qualifying the party’s candidate to get on the ballot. And, for the record, send a copy to the chair of the state Democratic Party.
©jbjd
#487 tennaseepuma… No. No. No. (I wish)
It’s “Pink’s Mr. President” and the video was created by “DemocracyDame”
ipotter found it and posted it.
So cool. I Loved it, too!
#472 PaulHillary
Why was the primary not challenged in the courts? It is my understanding that there are many laws that say what the DNC did was wrong (not counting FL & MI and then giving them only 1/2 votes; interpreting the votes in a way other than they were cast in MI and then giving some of Clintons votes to Obama). I believe there are also laws that say something about unlawful elections… like maybe they shouldn’t count? (that would be caucuses). I’m not certain about laws, but do know that US v Classic Supreme Ct. decision pertains to FL & MI and says that ballots must be counted once they are cast as long as the election was held in accordance with state law… FL & MI were held in accordance with state law. I’m thinking some of the caucuses were not held in accordance to state laws and wondering if it is possible to throw out those results? I’m rambling here… but what can be done to right the election that went so very wrong?
Caracal Carrie~ i just read a post by Kerri and it made me think of the song “FINAL COUNTDOWN”… not sure who sang it though~ just a thought…
PaulHillary,
As Murphy says: “We are the ones no one was expecting.” It’s not nice to try and fool the voters. The American public is a little more savvy than many politicians give us credit for, IMHO.
BTW: You wrote: “Oh well I wonder if we planned this during the selection process?”
So are you saying that you participated in the selection of this unfit Democratic, Presumptuous nominee? If so, how does it feel now?
#487 tennaseepuma… The talent in this world is soooo amazing! I just marvel at what everyone does with their passion and gifts! PRICELESS!
483 Blue Blue Gal
http://www.songlyrics.com/
For a PUMA theme song (for Hillary), how about the Pretenders’ “I’ll Stand By You”?
I am not thinking about the whole song, but just the verse:
I’ll stand by you
I’ll stand by you
Won’t let nobody hurt you
I’ll stand by you
Take me in, into your darkest hour
And I’ll never desert you
I’ll stand by you
You could certainly change the words to suit our PUMA cause. But the tune and the words, I think, are brilliant and haunting. (I am a part-time vocalist and sing this song and dedicate it to my teenage children.)
Just in time for Denver: McCain takes the lead in the polls!!!! #80 that was a great list of polls where McCain is in the lead. The DNC must be in a state of shock and awe! HAHAHA I hope they get it right and start sending “I’m sorry” cards to Hillary now
Hillary 2008!!!!
Hillary 2008!!!!
Hillary 2008!!!!
Hillary 2008!!!!
PS has anyone heard a rumor of McCain picking Alaska Gov Sarah Palin as his VP? One of my co-workers ran by that one and we’re wondering if it has any truth.
Should we be lobbying the Credentials Committee before their Saturday meeting when they will be taking up the issue of how to handle FL and MI? Obviously we want these two states to be given their full delegate count with full voting rights and this should be done BEFORE the roll call votes, not after all is said and done like we’re hearing rumors about.
500 prowlland
thank you
will go there now
This is the reason why I support Hillary:
“Clinton, whether appropriately or not, seen by a great many Americans as someone who knows her way around the international stage. In fact, members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who are not fans of Clinton have told me that she has far better international connections than McCain or Obama.”
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/346742
With Bill Clinton as her another adviser, I feel USA is safe and secure. I do NOT trust Nobama in any shape or form, he would sell this country in a heartbeat and flew his ass to Kenya with Michelle and their kids.
There is NO economic security when National Security is UNSTABLE. And right now, either we admit it or not, our national security is very much in danger, we have RUSSIA to worry about. I ONLY trust Hillary and McCain for our national security and economy.
JUDICIAL WATCH
—–Original Message—–
From: ladyhawkke
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:44 PM
To: media@judicialwatch.org
Subject: Obamas ’s campaign contributions
Now that we are all privy to Hillary Clinton’s campaign mis-steps, what can you tell the public about Obama’s? Is it posted on judicial watch?
—– Original Message —–
From: Jill Farrell
To: XXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: Obamas ’s campaign contributions
We’re working on a project now. I think you’ll like it.
wont back down…..I agree,Ilove music and there is a song for every feeling,emotion pain or pleasure…….
Redraz9 – I TOTALLY agree with you – this too will be my last post – I had hopes that the people here would stop attacking each other and allow others to express their own opinion but apparently that was too much to ask of – I am sure by now the trolls are enjoying all of this.
#508 Gogandalf
Don’t pay attention to their spats, I don’t. I call it pissing contest, who can get the most point out of nothing….:lol:
wontbackdown, i couldnt agree more,I THOUGHT THAT VIDEO HAD A POWERFUL MESSAGE ABOUT OBAMAS CHANGE…..
sorry about the caps,trying to type onehanded as grandbaby is asleep in my arms…..lol
I just received this email for anyone who might be interested:
‘OBAMA IS A FLAKE AND A FAKE’, said lifelong Democrat Bob Kunst, who is Pres. of Hillarynow.com, which started Hillary’s campaign 5 yrs. ago….and is now protesting Obama at the Democratic National Convention in Denver from 8/24-28/08. ‘There is no unity for Obama at this phoney convention’, declared Kunst.
Kunst went to 210 cities for Hillary, did over 1000 news interviews, helped her raise ‘$Millions’, ran the first tv ads in New Hampshire and Iowa, put out thousands of flyers, buttons, tee-shirts, stickers, cookies…and has put out 474 news releases on his experience. See:www.hillarynow.com
‘For the first time in my life, and I’m 66, I will be voting for a Repubican, John McCain’. As a native of Miami Beach, Fla. is again a pivotal state in the national elections and we intend to expose Obama so that he’ll lose Fla. and other states.
‘Obama loves Hamas and Hamas loves Obama’, added Kunst, who sees Obama’s double-cross on ‘negotiating’ Jerusalem, Jewish for over 3000 yrs. and now ‘rewarding these Hamas Islamic terrorists, through these ‘irrational politics’ and ‘naive judgements’ that is endangering America, not just Israel and with Obama committed to cutting up Israel, this would mean another war’, said Kunst.
Kunst adds that Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Jimmy Carter and a whole list of backers in Obama’s camp are pro-Hamas and anti-Israel.
‘I cannot put those people in power and why I’m urging everyone in the Jewish and Christian Zionist and anti-racist communities, to unite in rejecting Obama, especially in key pivotal states such as Fla., Pa., Ohio, etc.’
Kunst added that Hillary supporting Obama to get rid of her debt, is the conscience she’ll have to live with.
‘We wouldn’t support Obama even if she were on the ticket. We have already protested Obama in 15 cities and gotten 40 media and now we are at the Democratic National Convention and will march at Noon on 8/28/08 and at the GOP National Convention and will march 9/3/08 at 1P.M. from the State Capital in St. Paul to the lst Amendment area and then for a huge rally at the UN at noon on 9/21/08, when we get ‘1000′ shofar blowers to tear down that ‘Wall of hate’ from the Islamic terrorists the UN supports with their politics as well as Obama supporting those politics and terrorists.
Kunst will also be distributing ‘Obamination’ buttons at the DNC, RNC and UN, besides exposing Obama’s over 50 flip-flops on most every issues.
Contact: Bob Kunst, 305-864-5110
Sorry, in my suggestion for Pretenders’ I’ll Stand By You as a theme song, I meant “chorus” not verse. Oy, it has been such a day! We will survive! (Another idea for a song?) Best wishes and thanks to all of us hardworking PUMAs.
Hi everyone- I leave Ohio for vacation and log on today and see that all the pumas are growling and some are pouting and scratching – yes, with each other!
I am from Cleveland originally, so the STJ news is really horrible and hits home..and the weirdness of these bad things happening to Hillary’s closest supporters is even stranger.
But just coincidence.
Reminds us how fragile life is and that we must be here to make a difference -not to fight, or quarrel or be victims….
Emotions are running high – I promised myself I wouldn’t log on while on vacation but keep wondering what you all are doing and can’t stay away.
My prayers go out to STJ and her family and all my Puma friends….
I think it’s natural for the emotional roller coaster to be running faster right now because it is being fueled by fear, rumor and spin that gives us all whiplash.
Take three breathes and know that we’re all in this together.
Anna7000 – don’t you DARE go anywhere! I have benefitted so from your courage, wisdom and intelligence! But, I noticed from your recent posts you need the Grammar Queen to come back more often and correct you..lol
Go, Greenfun….are you two around?
This is another example of what I have been working on for the past several days, 20+ hours a day. Any questions?
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August 20, 2008
Steve Carter, Attorney General
Indiana Government Center South
302 W. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
VIA FAX: 317.232.7979
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate Indiana Elections Code 3-8-3-11, Delegates to national convention; support of candidate on first ballot
Dear Attorney General Carter:
Here in Indiana, obeying the above-cited law means that pledged delegates selected as the result of votes cast for Senator Clinton in the Presidential primary election must vote for her during first-round balloting at the nominating convention of the Democratic Party. But in what can at best be interpreted as an overzealous advocacy on behalf of Senator Obama, in states throughout the country, including Indiana, proponents for his nomination have bombarded Senator Clinton’s delegates with subtle and not-so-subtle pressures to commit to switching support to him, before the convention. Or, failing that, they replace the Clinton-pledged delegate with one loyal to Obama. (See examples below. Note that while the first link shows the copy of a letter Senator Obama’s campaign sent to pledged delegates in Georgia, they distributed this same letter to delegates in all states. And Georgia, like Indiana, mandates pledged delegates to follow their candidates into the convention.)
Therefore, in Indiana (and Michigan, and Texas, and California, and numerous other states), encouraging delegates entrusted with representing the political preference of Clinton voters to pledge their support before the convention to Obama solicits these delegates to break the law. As a concerned citizen of Indiana, I am bringing this matter to your immediate attention, anticipating you will take appropriate action to ensure from now on, any campaigning in this state related to the upcoming Democratic National Convention is consistent with Indiana laws.
Sincerely,
References: “Bearing Witness” (posting of letter from Khalil Thompson, Obama for America, Chicago) http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/bearing-witness.html
Clinton supporters protesting removal of delegate at Democratic National Convention http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/WHAS11_POLITICS_080814_CLINTONOBAMA.486a4d97.html
“Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate” (article on state party efforts to discipline Colorado delegate for Clinton for refusing to switch to Obama)
http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_10170139
Copy: Todd Rokita, Secretary of State
VIA FAX: 317.233.3283
Dan Parker, Chair, Indiana Democratic Party
dparker@indems.org
#497 SouthJerseyPUMA OMG are you talking about by Europe I was from the 80 long haired band days and I loved that song.
#512 dcinlasvegas
Nobama is IN BED with terrorists like Hamas, his biggest supporter is Farrakhan, Ayers, Auchi and others who hates America; yet don’t want to leave this country. Nobama received millions of donations, a lot of it from Middle eastern countries. I bet Khadaffy through his network is the biggest donor to Nobama campaign; Farrakhan and Wright has close relationship with Khadaffy. In late 90’s an organization in Chicago who label themselves a community organization ( a front) was raided by the ATF, FBI, DEA; they were contracted by Khadaffy to start domestic terrorism in USA, the price was $3 million. The said organization is located in Southside of Chicago which NObama represented as State Senator.
I sent an e-mail to Gov. Paterson, as follows:
Dear Gov. Paterson:
It is essential that Hillary Clinton’s delegates cast their ballots for her in Denver, as they were instructed to do by the voters of New York State. It would be unconscionable for anyone </b) to suggest otherwise. I hope you will uphold the principles upon which our democracy functions.
redraz and gogandalf, Please do not leave. I see what you mean, but I think the Pumas get restless when we don’t have a lot of prowls. The input you share is invaluable.
Sorry,
In recopying I put in the comma instead of the >. In my message, only the anyone was highlighted.
Jack Cafferty, in listing BO’s potential VPs, said: “And of course the PUMAs are holding out for ‘ol what’s-her-name.”
(Just to get you cats fired up for Denver!)
I agree with Laurey4Hill – redraz and gogandalf, and others who are feeling sick of the “cattiness”- please reconsider.
#510 tennaseepuma… One last note on that video about Pink’s song “Mr. President”: The irony is, it was written about Bush – and it fits Obama to a tee.
prowlland
tried songlyrics and a myriad of other free lyrics sites – no luck –
all – i am trying to find the lyrics to a song titled -
did you ever have that feeling
a 1942 song by jimmy durante, from a movie called – the man who came to dinner.
then also showed up in a movie called – my stepmother is an alien with kim basinger.
i”m doing this for trish, so any and all directions, ideas, etc appreciated.
Also, what about Changes by David Bowie – don’t have the lyrics but I think it’s applicable?
Maryland Puma – You have mail and I hope you will reply to me in as relatively a timely fashion as I did to you.
#525 Blue Blue Gal.
I’m lurking out. Try this link for list of sountracks.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095687/soundtrack
#503 NObamaDem
I agree that we need more information on the Credentials Committee. Does anyone have any inside information on them at all. How about our members here that were in or privy to the Hillary conference call? Is there someone they can contact to get a idea of what will be on their agenda when they meet.
#520 Laurey4Hill
Frankly, it makes me laugh how childish some people are. It’s a joy to watch to be honest with you, it makes me laugh all the time. I call it pissing contest, its in the heat of passion for what they believe in, reason is non-existent, losing control of logic. As I’ve said a long time ago their are people in this blog who are not what they claim to be, that is just my personal opinion. I don’t get jumpy or excited whatever anyone say here; I’ve seen too much to react in haste – but I dissect it.
A lot of posters here are very passionate, we all have to be considerate about their feelings especially their passion. We may not all agree all the time, as long as we ALL remain focus with our objective, nothing is lost. I notice a lot of posters are new to activism, they are very passionate, we must understand them. Lets not be overly sensitive, in the real world of politics, a person MUST DEVELOP A SKIN AS THICK AS HIDE OF A RHINO TO SURVIVE. Politics is not for the fainthearted especially activism, standing for what is right.
Hey, I hadn’t seen this before.
Audacity of Democracy Movie Premiere page..oOoOohh
http://www.justsaynodeal.com/audacity_of_democracy_premiere_party_sunday_august24.html
I wish people would stop trying to scare Pumas out of going to Denver.
Pumas are adults, not little children who can’t think for themselves.
Quit the fear posts.
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/
#439 jane-pa on 08.20.08 at 3:56 pm Judicial watch is the group that was hounding Bill Clinton about the papers at his library, as well as being involved in the bogus donations lawsuit against the Clintons. Right wing and tied to WorldNetDaily and Larry Klayman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch Larry Klayman. It might be good to watch them, but I’d think twice about using them.
It is a negative article, if you want to comment on it.
Okay Pumas, I’ve just spent 3 hours lobbying the SD’s. I’ve completed all 50 states for Hillary. Next I’m doing BO. Then uncommitted. Can you say..”Carpal Tunnel”
528 MadLogic
tried
thanks
no go
won’t quit though
#532 Vonay
Well said! I couldn’t agree with you more! Actually it feels good standing up for your beliefs and convictions instead of just lying down pretending to be dead like a possum.
I’m right there with you, doria. I wish there were a way for the site to remember the personal info you have to fill in each time. It gets laborious, but I’m so grateful to everyone at the State Democracy Foundation for leaving this site up all this time. I thank them often!
Asian4Hillary, Yes, I know. True. BUT, can the skin be as thick as a rhinoceros without looking like it? LOL.
It just bothers me that all of us have put so much heart and soul into our candidate and in our beliefs through this site and I do not want to see anyone leave it out of anger or frustration.
531 kat in your hat
Murphy is the Executive Producer of Audacity of Democracy.
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At times I waste my time wondering which is worse…
the spat that takes place within the boundaries of 25 comments or so, or the passive – agressives who are still yapping about it as outsider critics/observers, 400 comments later?
525 Blue Blue Gal
#538 Asian4Hillary,
Right!! Hey don’t possums roll up in a little ball when they play dead?
I can’t see any Pumas doing that!
Back in May when Hillary came to Tamarac FL I stood in line in the hot sun for over an hour to get to see her and hear her speak.
Well, tomorrow she’ll be in Boca Raton, 10 minutes away, and I have no intent on going!
I can’t bear watching her campaign for NObama.
This is a great time for BO to be falling behind in the polls. If he is nominated next wk, maybe the “bounce” will only make him even, instead of far ahead which is what they are hopping after his grandstand on Thurs.
Radio says Stephanie Tubbs Jones has limited brain activity, but IS alive. That’s the latest at 4:33 CST.
#531 Dances, I know.
I just never saw that page before, with the music, etc. I like it.
You guys I just took a peek at Soldier4Hillary’s site and she and Sugar will have their own NQ radio show tomorrow night, and it is called “Our Voice” and it will be on the primary season as it pertains to race issues, which will be very interesting as they are AA Hillary supporters.
Dances, wasn’t I supposed to email you? I will do that now.
525 Blue Blue Gal
oops…. didn’t paste all
was justing going to say I cant find anything about lyrics for my stepmother is an alien with kim basinger.
I do not think any PUMA would intentionally say anything to hurt anothers feelings. We are getting closer to the convention and we are all a bit stressed and maybe a bit more sensitive. We are however working towards the same goal. ALL OF US are very passionate about Hillary. If you have any questions please read the mission statement.
#522 MaBe… Re: Jack Cafferty
Everytime I see Jack Cafferty, he reminds me of a tele-evangelist that I heard about from a piano player that used to accompany a gospel-revival tour.
He caught the evangelist in the men’s room sticking a sock in his briefs before going out on stage to preach the good news.
He said he could never think of that preacher’s self-professed “annointing” in quite the same light after that!
Don’t know what it is about Jack Cafferty that reminds me of that story?
548 prowlland
thanks for trying
not giving up , nope , not giving up.
did i tell you i was persisitant? lol lol
Please DELETE my post #331, RE: STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES
(if it’s not too much trouble)
I am appalled that a news agency like CNN can so irresponsibly rush to report something as fact when it wasn’t confirmed.
To clarify a point in there… it was during the primaries that my wife and I commented on how cool it would be if the ticket was HRC/Tubbs-Jones … two women, and one of them African American! But, of course, we were aware that many Americans probably wouldn’t be ready for this!
We so admire and applaud her for all that she fought and did for Hillary, despite some of the criticism she got from some African Americans.
#511 tennaseepuma on 08.20.08 at 5:00 pm
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Oh what a peaceful picture that must be, amidst all this political tumult. God bless you and your sleeping babe. Thanks for sharing, the picture help to keep all this ’stuff’ in perspective – it is for them (the wee ones) that many of us are fighting.
PaulHillary It’s good to have you here. I heard you on the blog radio. What is the buzz? We’ve all been crazy writing to delegates. What are the delegates thinking?
I think this born-alive protection issue is a death knell. Please, we need some news.
541 DancesWithPumas
100% agree
I have been re-faxing everyone I have addresses for ..and got a list of snail mail letters ready to go..any thing else we are encouraged to do today? I also emailed NY governor..We are turning the tide!
#550 wontbackdown: I do (know what made you think of Cafferty, I mean): Both of them are all puffed up pretending to be something they’re not. Which is why when somebody like that has air time on CNN and shows such enormous disrespect for a dedicated public servant (“ol-what’s-her-name”), even though I know to expect it, it makes me sick to my stomach. After all the time, energy, and effort Hillary Clinton has spent serving the public, some do-nothing idiot broadcasts that phrase around the world. Honest to God, if I didn’t have PUMA to turn to after all of these indignities, my blood pressure would have shot through the roof by now….
I also started saving my coke cans again! …
I had quit doing that for a while because I tried to quit drinking coke.. 
but that is not working very well.
Wooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo
I just got back a positive responce from a SuperDelegate today on my SD prowl I posted earlier today:
I have stood firm and I will vote for Hillary in Denver.
- Chris Stampolis
Superdelegate from California
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This is what I am writing back to him:
Dear Superdelegate Stampolis,
Thank you so much for your courage and for standing firm for Hillary.
I hope you know most of her delegates do not have contact information for one another and are not only isolated by the DNC but some have been told not to vote for her by their state chairs.
Anything you can do for the other delegates to reach each other is greatly appreciated.
I am going to be one of those supporters for Hillary outside of the Convention in Denver.
Once again, thank you from 18 million of us who are still hoping she will be our president.
Billie Jo xxxx
You will love this one…
http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/08/cbs4-discovers-secret-page-on-obama.html
ooooops Response!
#551 Blu Blue Gal:
The “My Stepmother is an Alien soundtrack” CD contains these songs only. Nothing entitled “Did you ever have that feeling”.
1. Room to Move – Simon Climie, Rob Fisher
2. Not Just Another Girl – Ivan Neville
3. Be the One – Robert Brookins
4. I Like the World – Larry Blackman,
5. One Good Lover – Robert Haas, Kristin Massey
6. Hot Wives – Peter Aykroyd
7. Pump up the Volume – Martin Young, Steve Young
8. Enjoy – Alan Silvestri
9. Klystron – Alan Silvestri
10. Celeste – Alan Silvestri
bluegrass, I need you!
email me at twice my name, at gm
Okay girls and boys!
CHILL! CHILL! I know our passion is flowing right now, Denver is getting close. No one is mad at each other, we’re all venting what else we can do. A mixture of instense passion for our objective and upcoming convention is making a lot of us on the edge of our seat. Please step away from your PC, look outside, inhale, exhale -relax. I know some of you are misunderstood, emotions are flying high, blood pressure is way up there. Please calm down, you can’t think clearly and see logic when emotion overpowers rationality.
We’re ALL PUMAs, take it easy…:-)))
Billie Jo – That is so cool! Was that from an e-mail you sent, or snail mail. I haven’t received any personal e-mails back, at least not yet. I’m up to the “W’s”. Four more states to go (not counting the other 7, which I’m still searching for!). Thank you so much for sharing that on the blog! You must feel so good!
402 TrishfromCanada
why not the obvious!? The Clash- Should I stay or should I go? (:
“this indecision’s bugging me. If you don’t want me set me free. yada yada yada..
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble.
If I stay it will be double. “
Oh Pumas, I just Heard Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died.
563 maxgrader
i got that info from here:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Jimmy_Durante_song_that_Kim_Basinger_sings_in_‘My_Stepmother_is_an_Alien’
#559 Sunshinelvr -
Your post made me smile. I had quit drinking Cokes too and now am back at it. Reminds me of the Airplane movie . . .picked a bad day to quit smoking . . .
(((((((((((PUMAS)))))))))))))))
Love to all
Dragonfly
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You’ve seen my TIPS on effective post-presentation…
- Now, how about tips on what’s appropriate content in posts ?
Further above, in response (& to add to) a previous post with suggestions on bolding text… I posted a revised version of my tips on highlighting key info in our posts and making our posts more readable… and making it easier for us busy “fast scrollers” to find and extract important info, topics discussed, salient points, etc among our hundreds of posts..
Here’s a link to that post further up:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/08/20/vp-open-thread/#comment-104846
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*** Now, having observed for a while that some people here get very upset at the way others have responded to them or at the contentiousness among some here (causing some pumas to even leave our group) I’d like to compile suggestions for making our posts more amiable… ways of expressing things in our posts so that there is more harmony and “focus” on our purpose here (or on what is important or relevant to pumas).
…What have you observed that you think is “inappropriate” in here… what content, or ways of expressing, do you think has caused “problems” here… and what suggestions would you make based on your observations, etc. ?
Share your ideas RE: how to reduce the contentiousness that is upsetting or offending some people and even driving some away.… and also what you think is “inappropriate” in here.
I know this is a difficult and touchy subject, but I’d like to see some input on this. I’m willing to compile a summary or a list of suggestions, like the other suggestion-lists I’ve posted (for which, I’m sure, I am by now, famous).
[An afterthought: maybe there should also be some tips RE: how to take criticism?!]
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Working on adding texts to all of these pics now..Does anyone have anything else they want to send me? I still have plenty of room!
Obama advisor lobbied for Oil Group:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/20/1278270.aspx
Is anyone surprised? Not me.
REPOST FROM KERRI DOWNSTAIRS
Kerri on 08.20.08 at 4:47 am
Any PUMA’s who are seeking lodging in Denver:
I have found a residence wich can hold any number of people, 3-6, actually, for the price of 50 dollars per person per night. Apparently they are HRC supporters and thus we get a “bargain” rate. Heh, if you ask me, the Coloradians are making a killing!
But, that is neither here nor there! The price is true, as I’ve been searching for days now! LOL This situation has a two large and real beds, two rooms, plus a kitchen area and private bathrooms and entrances.
If you’re interested contact the “host” at mbarfels over at comcast dot net. Also, if you’d be so good as to just drop ME a line to let me know how many spaces you’ve booked, as I’m trying to keep track of such options for other PUMA’s in need of shelter. As ever, I’m reachable at Kerriwyn and that’s over on aol
Alright then.
PS. If someone here is currently ON when the morning thread goes up, if you’d be kind enough to copy this post for the next shift? Thank you.
#572:
I’ll send you something. What is the main theme? A message to Hillary? Like, as if it were directly to her?
Hillary,
xxxxxx
?
Three sentences and a pic? Is that right?
570 Dragonfly
I have been drinking them since they were a nickel..they have been a constant in my life..strange the things that we keep along the way of life!
thank you, thank you maxgrader-
if not for you i would not have followed that link
and
look what i found -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcCE1LSAcA&NR=1
yahoo!!!!! wooooo hooooo !!!!!!!
Billion dollars to Georgia for reconstruction! Great idea, Barack, but why don’t we just give em 2 billion? No big deal, we’ll just run our mint printing presses overtime. Our money isn’t worth anything anymore anyway. Obama, are you even aware of our debts already?
Oh, and we love your idea to tax the rich and give incentive checks to the poor. NOT!!!
Oh.. PS: In my post above (#571) I wasn’t asking anyone to “name names” RE: the contentiousness. I don’t care about who said what.
#487 BigCatLover
Actually the Akita story is true, and right now Richard Gere is in the process of filming a movie about the story. They are doing some of the filming in Providence Rhode Island. My husband heard the whole thing from Richard himself. (no kidding!)
I was swooning and wishing I had been there too, but when I found out what a huge obama supporter Richard Gere is it totally ruined my crush on him!
#566 Anna7000 on 08.20.08 at 6:03 pm
Billie Jo – That is so cool! Was that from an e-mail you sent, or snail mail. I haven’t received any personal e-mails back, at least not yet. I’m up to the “W’s”. Four more states to go (not counting the other 7, which I’m still searching for!). Thank you so much for sharing that on the blog! You must feel so good!
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It feels great, to even know a Superdelegate is already planning to make a stand for Hillary. I wrote a letter using info from many places, included links to the blogradio show on the 17th, Lynnette Longs site and others.
I will post it again if you want to see what I am sending.
I can’t afford to send things by snail, too expensive, so I am using emails of the superdelegates. Many of the superdelegates know delegates, so hope they will help them make contact.
Lorelai – If you’re still around and haven’t left yet, I hope you have a wonderful vacation, free of typos and grammatical errors! I hope you leave you lap top at home and avoid televison monitors in the hotel as much as possible. I hope you indulge yourself, relax, have fun and enjoy! No guilt. No worries.
Billie Jo – Yeah, I’d LOVE to see the letter you most recently sent.
TrishfromCanada
look what i found – although i don’t think this is what you had in mind. but it kept me busy all afternoon – lol lol lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcCE1LSAcA&NR=1
yahoo!!!!! wooooo hooooo !!!!!!!
I’ve been CALLING delegates/supers. Leaving messages….
I feel positive. More positive than I have in a long time. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT ALL RESTS WITH HILLARY. IF SHE STANDS UP AND SAYS SHE IS IN IT TO WIN IT–the delegates will vote her IN.
Polls, news, scuttlebutt all show BO is going to LOSE BIG TIME. BIG BIG TIME. Yes, the DEM’s still get to line their pockets with 100’s and 100’s of millions of dollars, but I think that MANY democrats (and I am praying that many is more like MOST) want to do the RIGHT THING BY AMERICA first and foremost. They know BO can’t win, and they know Hillary is destined not only to win but to be the finest president in the herstory of the USA.
HILLARY, wherever you are and whatever you are doing please think about this as you walk to that microphone. Think about the 10’s of millions of us walking behind you like angels in the night waiting to be re-born when you call us home. Just say the word, and we will re-appear as the 18 million PLUS and we will carry you into the white house…
PLEASE keep calling and writing…now is probably the most crucial time. I cried on the phone today sometimes, but most of the time I just spoke from my heart. Just like McCain, you may not agree with what I am saying but you know I care about America and that I am honest and earnest.
HILLARY NOW. HILLARY NOW. HILLARY NOW!!!
#572 Caracal Carrie
Please add this to your video
“When votes are no longer counted as voice of the people, democracy is DEAD”
Thank you.
Anna7000- am on my laptop right now….In condo in South Carolina….wish I were going to Denver, but not to be….have been doing what prowling I can, but am also reading novels and listening to the sound of the ocean….something an Ohioan doesn’t get to do very often.
I still remember your funny comment -”I’m getting nervous about getting nervous about the Convention”…
I’m starting to feel that way – will I watch? Can I watch?
It’s like every debate and every primary night from January to June. That’s when I lost all that weight.
I’ll check in with you guys as often as I can….
Thanks for missing me!
#162 Jbjd I’m here!
I take it that Obama is trying to prevent his people from standing up and voting. Sly. There votes have been pre-recorded? So they can’t change their minds? Wow.
Hmmmmm
Fill out you National Delegate Web Survey… http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/delegate
This is one for the Obama Campaign, so if you filled it out for the DNC and the State Party, please we the campaign still needs you to do so…
If you have not filled this out you WILL BE MENTIONED on the call,
#568 OnlyHill …Someone from the AP got it wrong…she is still alive with limited brain function. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080820/ap_on_el_ge/congresswoman_hospitalized
# 577 Blue Blue Gal…….thats the perfect changs your mind song. !glad you thought of it.
sorry about typos…..lol
To everyone thinking of quitting…
Please rethink it. In 11 short weeks we have changed history and democracy and still doing it. We have changed ideas, gathered ideas, spent a gazillion hours to move our ideas, hopes, dreams, democracy and Senator Clinton forward in ways unprecedented and no one believed possible. This is because everyone one of YOU have given in so many wasy to our cause. Without all the incredible people, talents, passion and drive we might still be at the starting line. I have been here from almost the very beginning and am always touched and amazed what everyone contributes to all of us. I have seen many of you grow, become more outspoken, learned how to research, write letters, learned how to support your comments, learned new ways how to use your computers, sang to us, made videos of Hillary, us, Senator Clinton, spoke out on grievous wrongs such as fraud in the primaries, learned overwhelming information on our democracy, different parties, voting, primaries, the law, become less afraid of making points and speaking out, went from being shy to outspoken, learned how to debate, honed and developed your speaking skills because at this sight and so much more. These are just a few examples I can think of.
So, make your choice, but please try to look at it from different perspectives. Although I believe we need all of you, now, more than ever, I can’t stop your decisions but I hope this helped to remind you we are all in this together. I, for one, had never blogged, listened to blog radio shows or how to display links until I started blogging here and found a place I felt I could do something about our screwed up DNC and voting rights.
BUT NONE of us would have come anywhere near this far without our fearless leader, Murphy, and of those who have worked so hard helping make everything we do have meaning and keep us moving towards our goals.
To all of you I toast you and thank you deeply for being here and givign all you have.
Lol
Diva
Diva, well said I grew up in a family of eight and boy could we squabble,and we are very diverse in our passions and thoughts,but would not like to lose any of their imput…….nor any pumas here!
Lorelai – No offense, but don’t check in girl. You deserve to have a vacation. 100%, not 72%. You give so much to this blog, including your passion and your delicate sweetness. You get to have a vacation, girl! I shouldn’t even be replying to you as it only encourages you staying on line and hanging out here. Go listen to the ocean, eat well, enjoy great books, snuggle time with husband, watch hilarious tv (if you can find it), great movies, enjoy the summer air on the coast, remember how much bigger life is than all of this. If I see a post from you with my name on it, I’m not going to respond. You can yell at me when you get back home if you want!
P.S. I won’t be watching the convention. As my husband sometimes jokes with me when he says: “No good can come of this.” The news we’re waiting for will be known soon enough, irrespective of whether I see the entire thing or not. And, if something truly remarkable happens that we are all praying for, no doubt it will be replayed and available on line.
Now, have a great evening! See you in a couple of weeks. (No lurking either, girl. I know when you’re out there!)
“The Obama Nation” – Americans are stampeding to buy!
The Obama Nation reveals that Obama learned community organizing from Jerry Kellerman, an organization that was a product of Saul Alinsky’s organization. Change meant radical socialism and redistribution of wealth. Change is created by using power-politics tactics where the ends justify the means.
Most important is raising the consciousness of the economically impaired and disadvantaged, typically minorities. Agitate and stir the economic pain and suffering to make people aware of their disadvantages and to then mobilize discontent into POLITICAL POWER. Alinsky taught organizers to hide their true intentions in the words they spoke. Denying the truth and lying are advocated as tactics if it advances the cause.
When an opponents argument could not be refuted by logic, evidence, or arguments; they were taught to ridicule that opponent. The goal is to make audiences laugh at their opponents and to distract them from listening to what their opponents are saying.
Alinsky believed that organizing the white middle class would significantly determine the direction of change, because even if all the minorities could be organized together it would not be powerful enough to get SIGNIFICANT, basic changes. Alinsky saw organizers as himself as elitists who claim that the values they are pursuing justify their tactics. However, the last thing they themselves want to be is middle class. They want to grab power from the business elite.
The middle class is a pawn and the organizers desired change would come only by convincing the middle class to side with him in its own destruction. Alinsky disdained the middle class, (similar to Obamas bitter comments that showed his contempt for the middle class) and wanted to overturn their identity and values. Alinsky taught POLITICS disguised as “COMMJNITY ORGANIZING” was the only way the ELITES could mobilize the have-nots to take power from the haves.
Obama learned to organize primarily religious community groups, you do what works. You study and learn the culture and experience of your audience. You learn antidotes, values, idioms and avoid foreign rhetoric or phrases that could label you a nut. The organizer learns to apply “honest” speak to discontent, to mobilize the community from within. They listen carefully so they can use the words and the language of the community itself to move people in the direction they want them to go. (vote) Their job is to rub raw the resentments of the people of a community. The sole purpose is to organize for POWER. The organizer claims not to have a hidden agenda and listens to people and then professes genuine sympathy to understand their needs as the community understands those needs. The organizer studies and listens so he can use the language of target communities to intensify discontent. It is an elitist view of “Obama knows best”, you must be led, even if the only way is to appear passive through listening.
I’m in it to WIN it!!!!!
Glad to have been of help, Blue Blue Gal.
Okay, I am officially gone…kind of, maybe, sort of…
590 tennaseepuma
thank you.
now i hope that trish will see it and see if it is something she can use.
Do We Need A Whip Team, WTF Is A Whip Team?
“If people get down there on the floor and want to strart blowing kazoos and making a scene we want to make sure we’ve got people who stand in front of them with Obama signs,” said person involved in the planning. “Is it typical for a losing candidate to have their own whip team? No. But it’s also not usual for a losing candidate t get 18 million votes,” said the person.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
#589 BarbNOBO
THANK YOU. I’m so glad to hear she is alive! I was heartbroken when I first heard the news and decided to grab a beer and give her a toast. Now, I’ll toast her speedy recovery:-)
lorelai – i know you’re still out there. now scram.
Slap my paw! I called Carol Shea Porters office and told them they better make my vote count. Vote for Hillary.
I suggested that maybe “Our votes aren’t for sale” signs might appear next to hers.
Blue..send it to her.
#600 John
I don’t get it. If it is Hillary’s own words that we need to have this vote for her supporters and we are supposed to scream and yell and have a big catharsis, then why in heck would she want people to block them off with Obama signs?
OnlyHill – You sound very impacted by this news from what you wrote in your post. Be prepared for the liklihood that there won’t be a speedy recovery. When someone suffers that degree of insult to their brain that they wind up on an icu with limited brain function, as has been reported, the prognosis is usually very very sad no matter how you look at it.
Life is so fragile and hangs in the balance all the time.
Murphy, (and Pumas) Just had a thought and there is probably still time…If you are going to Denver and have a cell phone you could put GPS tracking on your phone to help you find and keep track of each other. Some Pumas probably already have this program and others who do not could get it for the convention and then remove it after, if they don’t want it any longer. I think the fee would be nominal and activation instant. Hope it helps! Be safe, have fun, make history!!
#580 lisa, I have been in love with Richard Gere since Officer and a Gentleman. He can have his faults that’s okay, when Hillary is the nominee he will come over to our side. NOTHING can make me stop loving him. He only gets better with age. Like fine wine.
My hubby says I am impossible.
Call Carol Shea Porters NH campaign office at
603-397-3190 (I left a message)
Fill up her voice mail messages tonight!
Hillary won her district by 14 pts.
Hillary won her state (New Hampshire) by 2pts
Hillary gave her $2,500
Obama gave her $11,500
Pelosi gave her $10,000
the world is a bridge
don’t build your house on it
we’re only here for a moment
spend it in devotion
the rest is unknown
– Chinese philosopher (I believe it was Confucius)
POST CONVENTION PROWL
(BO’s BC)
Just in case… While you are in Denver, I will be here, working on a post-convention prowl, involving every state.
Briefly, if you want to challenge BO’s eligibility to be POTUS based on questions about his being a natural born citizen – two serparate issues – you have to keep him off state ballots in the general election. This means, you have to lodge your challenge within the narrow time period provided in state law. Some states require submissions of names of major party nominees must be made within 24 hours after the nominating convention; some states allow more time than that. But challenges to the submission of ballot nomination papers usually must be made within days after that.
Each state has some sort of provision in its election law providing that the candidate whose name is being submitted for inclusion on the general election ballot satisfies all of the federal and state requirements for the office.
So, I will look up these filing and challenge deadlines in the 50 states. Because if worse comes to worst in Denver, when you come home we will need to hit the ground running.
(FYI, you know that web site BO set up to “Fight the Smears’? Well, when people began questioning whether he was a natural born citizen and complained he refused to produce his BC, he posted a facsimile of a certificate of live birth (COLB) on that site, telling the media this should end everyone’s doubts. But software experts took this document apart and concluded it wasn’t his. So, BO scrubbed this document from his site, too.)
#608 oneof18millioncracks
LOL! I understand! I am having a hard time with George Clooney now too since he is so “buddy buddy” with XO.
I am running out of crushes! At least Brad Pitt is against Obama!
Did anyone watch Larry King last night?
Even OB’s big supporter, Bill Maher, believes Hillary is the real democratic leader.
OB is getting weaker and weaker, I just can’t wait to see him melting down.
tennaseepuma
would if i knew how to. don’t know how to other than on here.
Ok… i had to think all day about the letters to the delegates….not sure i should have thought that long….lol… i was mean and nasty ( no cuss words ) !!
jbjd
You are awesome. Thank you for making it easy for us- you are doing a ton of work.
Posted this comment on HuffPO:
The Democratic party said at the beginning of the primaries that the “will of the voters” would be the theme of the primary season. Between the way the caucuses were skewed for Barack Obama to the literal documented cheating by his followers, esp. I know of in Texas and the rules committee halving the voters in FL and MI there has been NO “will of the voters.” NOW BUYING OF SUPER DELEGATES: All these names pertain to BOUGHT elected officials. Next to the names is how much they received as well as where the money came from:
Obama paid:
$11,500 Carol Shea Porter NH
$12,500 Rep Baron Hill IN
$4,200 Sen Jeff Bingaman NH
$11,000 Ron Klein Fl
$9,000 Sen Frank Lautenberg NJ
$7,500 Rep Joe Donnelly IN
$5,000 Re. Gerald McNerney CA
$10,000 Rep.Jason Altmire PA
$5,000 Niki Tsongas MA
$4,000 Rep. Dennis Cardoza
$9,000 Rep Gabrielle Giffords AZ
$4,000 Rep. Jim Costa
$7,500 Rep. Zack Space OH
$7,000 Rep. Charles Wilson OH
$5,000 Sen Jay Rockefeller WV
Pelosi paid
$2,500 John Adler NJ
$10,000 Jason Altmire PA
$10,000 Andre Carson IN
$10,000 Joe Donnelly IN
$10,000 Gabrielle Giffords AZ
$10,000 Baron Hill IN
$10,000 Ron Klein FL
$10,000 Tim Mahoney FL
$10,000 Harry Mitchell AZ
$10,000 Patrick Murphy AZ
$10,000 Joe Sestack PA
$10,000 Carol Shea Porter NH
$10,000 Zach Space OH
$10,000 Niki Tsongas MA
$7,500 Nick Lampson”
jbjd, can I talk to you email? Don’t want to put my message in here, okay. nancypuma at gmail dot com
zip me a quick email and I’ll respond with something about bc and state ballots
#592 diva2 – very well said!! Go PUMAS!!
Hillary in 2008!
Stephanie Tubbs Jones, confirmed time of passing is 6:12 pm tonight.
May she rest in peace and may others be as good and honest as she was.
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Ok I missed a lot of posts stuck in my email lol..
You can send me a pic, message, graphic, or all of the above. This is for a video for Denver.
send it to
witchway2go at Hotmail
if you want to send me something try and do it asap so I can get it put in the video.
If you have any questions or anything you want me to see. send me an email.
Thanks so Much!
#491 Mimi #493 Billiejo You are looking for Vadaryl…I was on the conference call. Maybe I can help.
#580 lisa
Akitas are very loyal dogs ( a relative of mine had one and most people know that Nicole Simpson had one that tried to get passerbys attention after you know what), but I hate stories about animals sacrificing themselves for humans. It doesn’t lift me up, but it makes me very sad. Anyhow, I was half teasing Maxgrader (only half) because he is so polite and civil here and this time he stepped in deep doo doo. I’ve been there myself at times, so enough said about the issue.
Does anyone have handy that website address for writing letters to the superdelegates – apologize if this has been asked a dozen times – if not I will go through the posts until I find it. Thanks – my first post here and want to help out with letters.
#620 Bythelake
So sad, Stephanie Tubbs Jones was such a good and great human being.
422 Oneof18million cracks… on 08.20.08 at 3:41 pm Trish…Should I Stay or Should I Go? By Clash
Lyrics here:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/clash/should+i+stay+or+should+i+go_20031789.html
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Trish not sure if you saw my post earlier. Good luck.
#577 Blue Blue Gal
lol that’s hilarious and just perfect, thank you
621 Caracal Carrie, I can’t wait to see the finished product. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for accepting to do this. I just know it will be phenomenial!
You’re simply the BEST!!!!
I called Ms. Geraldine Ferraro this morning. She was running out so I called her office as she requested. She confirmed that she has received all our cards and fantastic letters which she said she was very grateful for. She said she mentioned it to Fox TV.
I got to ask her a few choice questions which she answered with no hesitation and was very frank in her views. She was very nice.
This is what I resolve to do. Vote for McCain for 4 years and hope Hillary runs in 2012.
In the meantime we need to make sure that Obama does not make Obamination out of America.
#606 Anna7000
Yes, it did impact me somewhat. I meet STJ briefly in D.C. and she is so easy to be around I felt as if I knew her my whole life.
Caracal Carrie
&
DanceswithPumas:
you have mail
#472 Paulhillary. Washington state did meet the Dem party in court over our state primary being ignored and the decision was that the state can not interfere with the party’s ability to pick their own candidate. So our WA state Presidential primary election is held in accordance with state and federal law, the votes are counted and the party ignores them and has chaotic caucuses instead. This year BO won the caucus by about 70% but the primary was about 49% Hillary, 51% BO.
Caracal,
Did you get my email? I sent it about 3 hours ago
TrishfromCanada
glad to have had something i could help with
maryland
re: you have mail
you can ignore it – trish showed up just now !!!!!!
sorry to fill up your in box -
LandiPUMA #571
RE how to reduce the contentiousness among some of our posters.
I suggest that if after writing a post that one feels might make someone upset or that it’s in some way inappropriate for posting here, don’t send it immediately. Copy it into another program and later re-read it and see how it sounds. Put yourself in the place of the person you’re addressing or responding to. How would you feel in their place? Then make any necessary changes or re-write it or don’t post anything about the matter if that’s what feels right.
Anna7000
I want to apologise for my outburst earlier today. I should not have singled out your post because it was only one of many that sent me over the edge.
I am losing my mother a little more everyday and I guess today was my day to snap.
I don’t know how to email you, so I will apologise on the blog. I am truly sorry.
609 nhforhillary ,
Call Carol Shea Porters NH campaign office at
603-397-3190 (I left a message)
Fill up her voice mail messages tonight!
Hillary won her district by 14 pts.
Hillary won her state (New Hampshire) by 2pts
Hillary gave her $2,500
Obama gave her $11,500
Pelosi gave her $10,000
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Just called the number and talked with a very nice lady. Told her I was calling to ask that Ms. Porters to give Hillary her support at the convention. I told her I know that Hillary won her district by 14 points and would like for her to give Hillary her vote in the roll call. I said I am a PUMA PAC member and look forward to seeing Ms. Porters support Hillary. The woman was very nice and said she would be sure to give her my message.
OnlyHill – The way you describe her is very much as others have throughout the day. What an amazing feeling to meet a public figure like that and encounter what sounds like such a lack of pretention and to feel so sympatico.
#636 Redraz9
I will say a prayer for your mom and your family.
#636 Redraz9
I will say a prayer for your mom and your family.
Not sure if my first post made it or not – but am looking for the website that gives all the superdelegates – want to send them a letter – my second post today. If it is too much bother I will research prior posts to try and find it – Thanks
R.I.P. Rep. Tubbs-Jones, she will be missed
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Thank you for all your hard word on behalf of Hillary, Stephanie!
Tree I am looking now
To anyone going to denver, Please make sure there is a Large sign thanking a Hillary Angel and an Angel to all good people (esp. women) Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She was a good person, a fine example of a strong woman, and she was a credit to the human race. I am so sad to hear of her passing that I cannot bear it and I am going to go do something positive right now in her memory….
I am also going to RE-DEDICATE myself to making this year HILLARY’S year in her honor. She deserves this, and so much more…you know it is so true what they say about God taking the good ones…
Thank you, lisa. Thank you very much.
628 freddiebrown, “This is what I resolve to do. Vote for McCain for 4 years and hope Hillary runs in 2012.”
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I just received a phone call from the Republican Party hear in Toledo Ohio. Now get this….I am still a registered Democrat, have voted democrat my entire voting years and have NEVER received Republican calls.
They asked if I support John McCain or Obama. I said, McCain. They asked, strongly or somewhat. I said, Strongly, they asked what was my major concern and I said the Economy. They asked if I would like to work at the McCain headquarters and I said can I give you my answer after the convention? She said do you want met to call you back after the Republican convention? I said NO, I want you to call me back after the Democratic convention and I will give you my answer. She said thank you so much I will be talking to you on the 29th.
I have to crack up. I worked at Hillary’s headquarters in the Primaries. I pray I will be working at Hillary’s again after the 28th. If Obama is the nominee then it looks like I will have to go over to McCain’s headquarters.
redraz9 – I’m ssooooo glad you didn’t leave, at least not for long. No need to apologize. Truly. If I feel like I need to defend my words, I will. But, if I feel I need to take responsibility in a way that means reassessing my words or behavior, I do (at least I hope so; I try). I was extremely insensitive to write such a glib comment as I did before and there was no justification for it, including whatever passion or urgency I feel for us to take action. You were right to speak out.
I am really sorry to hear about your Mom. I get the feeling many of us on the blog are baby boomers and, as such, you are not alone in this sad journey many of us are traveling with our aging, failing, dying parents. I’m right there with you on that.
I’m glad you came back. I so appreciate you reaching out with your post to me. In the end, I do believe that while, in an ideal world, none of us would hurt or offend another, in reality, we do. So, the next best thing is getting through it and moving on. In the end, I think we’re stronger for doing so.
Thank you, redraz9. No apology needed, but thank you for accepting mine.
I dont see it tree
Report currently on Lou Dobbs saying most elections in this country are run by private companies and are no longer public. Group name is votersunite.org.
redraz–if you can’t lose it among friends where else can you…
please accept my condolences on your mother and my sincerest compliments on being able to handle the stress of the world, your mother’s illness, and still be a strong PUMA member….
LOVE each other and PRAY for PUMA’s…
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5atlJ9I4IGbTPQB-hNQA0uwlyPQD92MA7LO0
Oh my gosh she has died. wow sadness. Thats just messed up. Poor thing.
What does “your comment is awaiting moderation” mean – did I say something inappropriate – was just looking for the superdelegates email addresses – if anyone happens to have them handy.
freddiebrown – your post reminded me – i thought i saw a post waaaaaaaaaaay up in the thread about ferraro encouraging folks to get to know obama better. i don’t want this post to start a rumor, cause i may have misunderstood it. but after reading your post, it reminded me: has geraldine ferraro come out recently and made any statements one way or the other regarding the candidates?
I am going to put an Angel In the video for STJ if no one objects..
repost
REPOST FROM KERRI DOWNSTAIRS
Kerri on 08.20.08 at 4:47 am
Any PUMA’s who are seeking lodging in Denver:
I have found a residence wich can hold any number of people, 3-6, actually, for the price of 50 dollars per person per night. Apparently they are HRC supporters and thus we get a “bargain” rate. Heh, if you ask me, the Coloradians are making a killing!
But, that is neither here nor there! The price is true, as I’ve been searching for days now! LOL This situation has a two large and real beds, two rooms, plus a kitchen area and private bathrooms and entrances.
If you’re interested contact the “host” at mbarfels over at comcast dot net. Also, if you’d be so good as to just drop ME a line to let me know how many spaces you’ve booked, as I’m trying to keep track of such options for other PUMA’s in need of shelter. As ever, I’m reachable at Kerriwyn and that’s over on aol
Alright then.
PS. If someone here is currently ON when the morning thread goes up, if you’d be kind enough to copy this post for the next shift? Thank you
Anna , do you still have Geraldine Ferraro’s address? I was at the store and found a great thank you card . I can’t seem to locate the address from when we sent notes to her last week … I know how busy you are , but if you get the chance , I would be very grateful .
Thanks
Caracal Carrie
what a thoughtful gesture
I think we should all call Hillary’s campaign office and tell her that she shouldn’t release her delegates at the convention. I called earlier and left a message on her comment line, which is option 3. The phone number is 703-469-2008.
REDRAZ9 So sorry you are having problems. I am really glad to see you here and that we Pumas have each other to fall back on.
texas tigress – i think it was 575 park ave, ny, ny 10065, but don’t quote me.
Can someone in Denver put Stephanie Tubbs Jones name on a sign they will carry there or put her picture on the video that Caracal Carrie is working on.
Caracal,
Yahoo
I have pics of her BigCat. I am working on a part for her in the video.
636 redraz9, I am so sorry to hear about your Mom. Don’t feel badly, many PUMAs were having a bad day. It’s understandable and allowed. The tensions are running high with all that is going on. It’s all over and let’s get back to business.
I will pray for you and your MOM. I have been without mine for 18 yrs. I will pray for STJ and her family also. I just heard her speak in Feb when Bill Clinton came to Toledo. She had an amazing smile and her excitement was boundless. I have a few pics of her I took that day.
We lost a good Warrior for the Democrats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We’re doing what we can
But when you want money
For people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
In thinking about the sad death’s of those who supported Clinton, let’s not forget Tom Lantos. I do believe he would have remained a staunch and outspoken supporter and would not have swayed to the obama camp.
640 diva2
646 Anna7000
Thank You
Are they lowering BO in the polls to make it look like when he comes out of the convention he got a big bump.
freddiebrown…first of all kudos on talking to geraldine and I am so glad she is out and loud and loving it.
Second, ME TOO. I will be at a McCain office wearing my Democrats for McCain gear. They LOVE me and I have already been down to meet everyone…I am a little radical but they love it.
I sincerely hope I can go work at Hillary For PRESIDENT, but I have to have option B so I don’t implode…
HILLARY PLEASE BE IN IT TO WIN IT….please don’t make me go Republican…
THANKS ANNA !!!! I should probably be sending this thank you card to YOU !!!!
Feraro already made it clear after the primary was over she’s not going to vote for NObama.
kids1627 – from what i’ve read, most candidates get a bump after their convention. seems like around 5%. it’ll be interesting to see if it happens, and more importantly, if it holds for one or both candidates.
Ok…..now I can’t keep up….lol
So thanks to everyone for the prayers and thoughts. I need all the help I can get.
But Puma gives me a focus away from that and it’s a fight that’s dear to my heart. So, I’m here for the long run.
#666 kids1627
I’ve suspected that too, but there are so many polls that I don’t really think that would be possible.
texas tigress – i don’t think so, but i’m still trying to get that freaking post from the ed rendell thread that you posted deleted. wanna help me lobby for it? e-mail murphy and/or maryland and ask them to delete it: #1052. thanks, girl!
I hate that Tubb-Jones is gone home but I’m sure she is watching from above.
656 phillyforhillary on 08.20.08 at 7:23 pm I think we should all call Hillary’s campaign office and tell her that she shouldn’t release her delegates at the convention. I called earlier and left a message on her comment line, which is option 3. The phone number is 703-469-2008.
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Just did it!!!! Thanks for the number.
Oh no 666
goodcitizen
I was just having this discussion with my landlady, a feminist who loves Bill Maher. (I used to love him, too.) He supported BO since a long time ago; and he called HRC a c**t. So, I figure, he failed to do his “due diligence” about his man back then, but rather just jumped on the ‘hope and change’ bandwagon. (If he supported BO for a substantive reason, for example, because BO said he would filibuster to prevent passage of the amendment to the FISA allowing amnesty for telecommunication companies for violating privacy laws; then he should have changed his support when BO voted for the amendment.) I told my landlady, I suspect a better explanation for his recommendation to put HRC on the bottom of the ticket is this. Based on what he knows now, he doesn’t want BO anywhere near the White House any more than most of us do; but, impaired by his arrogance, he would rather laud the victim of his prior misogynistic rants than swallow his pride and admit, by supporting BO, he had made a mistake.
Caracal- so glad you are including Stephanie Tubbs Jones. I was hoping you would be able to. That will really make it very special.
The angel would be nice. I remember I first saw her on Colbert. I am sure I saw her on his show.
http://www.nofactzone.net/?p=5215
Tree You have mail
Billie Jo – I thought you were going to post that letter of yours! Where’d you go?
A sad day for us all. Godspeed Congresswoman, Stephanie Tubbs Jones! I will treasure the opportunity I had to hear her speak and the photo she allowed me to take of her in DC at Hillary’s final speech. She said, “me? you want my photo?” I answered with a firm Yes! She and her family will remain in my prayers.
freddiebrown: did you get to ask Geraldine Ferraro why she said our letters said we wanted HRC as VP??? I know my letter said nothing of the sort.
I am sooo glad she got our letters though.
JbJd,
Read, yes I will do, and left you BC question to respond to at your convenience. (interrupted, sorry took so long)
#663 Seattlegirl on 08.20.08 at 7:26 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts
Revolution
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The Beatles were so ahead of the times then and look how that song is perfect for today.
RADIO
Taggles on blogtalkradio has show at 8pm EDT with Heidi Li Feldman on Denver process and action items.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT
If anyone wants something to do, you can go to youtube and defend Hillary. Was just e-mailed this comment:
warcraft1920 has made a comment on PUMApac Hillary Clinton – God Bless The U.S.A.:
Well if Obama loses this election the blame will put on Hillary. So I hope you pumas like your little cunt Hillary working at Mcdonalds the rest of her life. LOL
Here’s the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhDCUPpax0c
#652 Caracal
Please put in this picture of HRC and Representative Tubbs-Jones kissing each other on the cheek. Let me know what you think.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/03sV9AM0pY2PB
Perfect JBJD I got it
Jbjd and anyone who knows. Question. Is it just a rumor or does O actually have dual citizenship. Who is the lawyer among us here? Is it Lady Puma? I can’t recall. If he holds dual citizenship he should be ineligible. You would be considered a foreignor, and specifically the founding fathers did not want foreignors entering government.
I am so sad about Ms. Tubbs dying…
Redraz…. my Mom just passed on July 20th… I am still having bad days … some good… she was 87 and died in her sleep… but had significant health problems.
652 Caracal Carrie on 08.20.08 at 7:22 pm I am going to put an Angel In the video for STJ if no one objects..
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That would be a great memorial to STJ.
What time is blog talk radio?
#667: Jenniforhillary: Where did you get your Democrats for McCain gear? I’m hoping but planning too and want to do what you’re doing if it comes to that after the Convention…..
#673 Anna which thread ?
I just called Hillary and asked her not to release her delegates
I think that this is one of the blog comments to put in the PUMA book… what do you think???
“Remember In November”, this can be one of our battle cries.
Remember what the media did to Hillary?
Remember what the super D’s did to Hillary?
Remember the caucuses? ( Picture the one elderly lady I heard about who went to caucus for Hillary, who had to park several blocks away and walk in bitter cold and snow only to be turned away when she got in line, and told the caucus was closed.)
Remember being called racists?
Remember Penns., West Va., Kentucky, Ohio, and a few other small town areas who were labled racists, bible & gun clinging bitter bigots?
Remember the Super Delegate turncoats?
Remember Florida and Michigan?
Remember Bill & Hillary Clinton ( champions for minorities) being labled racists? Because of the word “farytale”
Remember being told thousands of times to, “Get over it?”
Remember for the first time in history a candidate was given all the “uncommitted votes” from a State?
Remember for the first time in history 4 delegates were stolen from one candidate and given to another?
Remember the nasty, rude emails from the Super D’s?
Yep, We will remember in November.
#688 jbjd
Oh no. I was doing fine until I saw that picture. Lost it. Beautiful picture.
#687 TrishfromCanada on 08.20.08 at 7:41
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Ooooh. That make me furious! Let me at em.
redraz9:
You have company.
Lost my mom slowly in ‘02. And brother, did that hurt!
But she taught her kids well on how to live happily and constructively after she no longer could be around to share good times. Thanks to her and some pensive tripping I learned to smile again and carry on in her name very quickly. Not a day goes by I don’t think of her. It makes me smile. She makes life worth living.
I hope things will work out in favor of your mom. But if they don’t, just turn to God, think hard and give yourself time. I can’t think of two better friends to have than God and time when love is lost. And if your mom is like mine she will make life after hers easy for you too.
My heart goes out to you and mom. Hang in there, my puma friend.
I’m very, very sad to learn about Stephanie Tubbs Jones’ passing.
I also think (in Denver) there should be a sign for all the great backers of Hillary that have passed away… including Wizard, T. Lantos.. and the elderly (centenarian?) that voted for Hillary in the primaries and then died shortly afterwards (forgot name).
I have a fond memory about Stephanie Tubbs Jones :
Bill Clinton was in my town in Indiana in April or May I worked at the rally and she was with him. After the speech I shook her hand and told her I wanted to thank her for supporting Hillary and she asked my name and where I lived. She was a very nice person and she was on fire for Hillary. She will be missed
Rest in peace, Stephanie.
For those that want to leave condolences, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has a guest book set up. I’m sure the family would love to read them and be comforted by your thoughts, prayers and warm memories.
http://obits.cleveland.com/CLEVELAND/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=000116072806
#691 bmw60 on 08.20.08 at 7:45
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Bless you folks who have or are losing mothers. I lost mine a couple of years ago and it is still very hard some days. She was my bestest friend and confident and taught me an awful lot about life. I only wish I had half her grace.
#702 Pookie,
I too got to meet Stephanie Tubbs Jones when she was traveling with Hillary in Indiana. She was a very warm, personable woman. She was so excited about her friend Hillary being the first woman President. She thanked me for my hard work for Hillary, and said she would see us at the victory party after the general election. I have to look for my pictures of her with all of us. I hope I can find them.
Anna , I found . Sorry I had forgotten all about that – I DID stay in the corner the rest of the night
I will e-mail them asap and ask that it be removed . Oh , and in case you may not have known what it means , it means ’someone who is very full of themselves or pretentious ‘ – still , not a good joke , I know ….I just didn’t want you to think it meant anything about someone’s appearance . I’m e-mailing them now …
688 jbjd , #652 Caracal Please put in this picture of HRC and Representative Tubbs-Jones kissing each other on the cheek. Let me know what you think.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/03sV9AM0pY2PB
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That’s a beautiful pic.
687 TrishfromCanada, People who use that kind of language does not deserve the time or attention. It does not anger me, it sickens me. That video God Bless the USA is just too beautiful to allow any kind of remark to take from it.
Okay PUMAs I have to go veg out and give myself a rest. I am getting so many emotions from joy from Carrie’s idea of STJ’s angel pic, to sadness of the passing of STJ so I need to walk away and try to regroup. You all have a good night.
murphy, maryland -
a fundraiser to honor the fallen?
for signs in their honor?
#703 SheShePUMA
Thank you for giving us that link. I’m from Ohio, though not in her district, and she was a huge breath of fresh air in a Republican dominated state.
I got off the internet and the Democratic Party called me to ask who I was going to vote for. I said “Hillary”.
#696 Pookie,
I just got off the internet to call Hillary and left her a message too. 703-469-2008 press 3 to leave a message.
Please, don’t release your delegates!
blogtalk radio NOW
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/08/21/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO
There is an organization on facebook called 100,000 strong against Evan Bayh for VP. They have about 4,000 members right now and they want to get 100,000 by the end of the day. Bayh voted for the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, he is against stem cell research and he helped Bush and Lieberman start the war in Iraq. And he’s not Hillary.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=67248155229
redraz9 My prayers are with you and your family – I “do” know how hard it is! God bless you.
691 bmw60
I am so sorry. My Mom has been sick since last November and it’s just been getting worse.
Left message for Hillary asking her not to release her delegates.
714 1gypsy4mc
Thank You
Murphy & MarylandPuma Can one of our artists compose a beautiful card and put all of our names on it for us? I think it would be so beautiful to send this as a group. What does everyone think? Who’s the artist? (not me)
jbjd – I also used to enjoy the politically incorrect bullets of Bill Mahr, but noticed his obvious slant toward Obama early in the primaries. He stacked his roundtable with BOfans. The final blow came when he used the most degrading, despicable term for a woman that I won’t even honor with a spelling here. When you reach that low, you’re licking the bottom of the garbage can for laughs. I will not watch him anymore.
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It is such a shock that Senator Tubbs Jones has been snatched away so suddenly. I know Hillary must be devastated, as STJ was her friend and supporter in the midst of so much pressure for all African American politicians to back BO, and especially when everyone was clamoring for her to drop out of the race. It’s a huge loss on many levels for America.
Prayers and candles.
I feel profoundly saddened at the news about Stephanie Tubbs Jones.
She was not only a staunch supporter and ardent campaigner for Hillary during the primaries, but also an advocate for women. She felt that Hillary becoming president would be a historic breakthrough for women and greatly expand what’s possible for our daughters. She is one of my heroes!
For Stephanie Tubbs-Jones
Sheshepuma , thanks for the link . I wanted to let the family know that we Pumas were big fans , but didn’t think it was appropriate in the condolence section , so where it asked for “city” I put Puma . So it says Puma , Texas …
Test Test Test
Oneof18millioncracks, I to am in Toledo. Very glad to know you are too! slyt2 is in sylvania.
Caracal
Can we post this? I saw it on the news; I cried. I am crying now; these two women were best friends. Representative Tubbs-Jones received death threats for supporting HRC. She responded with defiance, chiding those who eschewed loyalty for giving in.
It worked this time – yeah – does anyone have handy the website that gives you all the superdelegates – want to send them all a letter – if not handy – then I will recheck posts for today and yesterday.
I understand that Hillary will be in Boca Raton tomorrow and then go to Brevard ?…is there a site with that info on it.
Dances…your post back around 560 something….
absolutely!! you said it .. so well. Onward!!
Dear, Dear MaxGrader
BO/Bayh McCain/Pawlenty
Clinton/Ferraro
On the Situation Room today, (CNN, Wolf Blitzer), Donna Brazille was on and supposedly was a “close friend” of STJ … May she rest in peace.
She called her Stephanie Tubbs JOHNSON.
This just gets more bizarre by the minute.
#583 Anna7000 on 08.20.08 at 6:22 pm
Billie Jo – Yeah, I’d LOVE to see the letter you most recently sent.
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Hi Anna, I certainly don’t have a gift with words like you do but I thought it was important to back up my letter with links to support my stance. So here is the letter I posted earlier today on the blog and am still sending out letters to all Hillary Superdelegates.
Anyone is welcome to use it.
Dear Superdelegate,
Please stand up for the voters that support Senator Hillary Clinton by voting for her on the first ballot at the Democratic Convention in Denver.
The American people are aware of the caucus fraud and deception which has distorted the delegate count in Senator Obama’s favor.
Here is a link to proof this: http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/
Obama came to the senate bearing monetary gifts to fellow democrats. We are aware that Obama gave large sums of money to super delegates to “buy” their support. We are aware that as the
Democratic convention nears, the Obama campaign is intimidating delegates and superdelegates to prematurely “secure” their votes for Obama and that they are also threatening Hillary Clinton with a highly funded opponent in the future. This is becoming public knowledge and Obama is dropping in the polls.
Here is a website radio link so you can hear it for yourself if you don’t believe me: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT
(It is the radio show on August 17, 2008,
“Tonite is delegate night! Dr. Lynnette Long will be joining us. Then, Michele Thomas of HRC 300 Delegates petition will be with us, Sacha Millstone (CO delegate who may lose her Hillary delegate status) and Deb Bartosevich (WI delegate who did lose her Hillary delegate status). Listen in and learn how your party officials are subverting your vote.”
This is not the America that we want for our future, where our votes are for sale to the highest bidder. An America where delegates and superdelegates are “pressured” to declare who they will vote for before the convention votes are cast and where party leaders advise them not to sign the petition some delegates are circulating to have Hillary Clintons name put into nomination at the democratic convention.
Many Americans are prepared to take action against electing these same politicians that are enabling party leaders to put their will over the will and votes of the American people. Contributions from all over the country have helped to fund a signature drive for a candidate to run against Nancy Pelosi. This should be a signal to ALL democratic politicians that in the future, rhetoric and money will not “buy” your success when the will of the people is to defeat your election. Expect to be challenged, expect voters to be immune to rhetoric, and learn that money alone will not “buy” your success.
The Democratic primaries have opened up the eyes of many Americans. It has exposed the bias of cable news networks and the pundits to the point that Americans distrust them and are becoming immune to their rhetoric and spin. The American people are ready for a “change”, but just not the change that the democrats and Obama had envisioned. In the process of exposing those within the party that are gaming the system and the American people, Obama has exposed himself as the one of the most “bought and paid for” politicians of our time, who is scratching everyone’s back to “buy” his way into the Whitehouse.
Once again I urge you to have the courage to stand up for Hillary, to stand up for her voters and to stand up for Democracy and vote for her on the first ballot. She is the candidate that can win against Senator John McCain.
Thank you for taking the time to read my message, to listen to the links I included and for having the courage to do what is right.
Billie Jo xxxx
xxxx County
xxx, California Democrat
PUMA PAC Democrat
Rereading I already see typos…proof read if you use it.
Link to ‘prove’
Billie Jo – Thanks for posting your letter. You still sending it out using lobby delegates? You’re a real trooper!
Caracal Carrie; CHECK your Mail! Sent some pictures, hope there is something you can use!
Does anyone notice a bizarre similarity between Senator Obama’s hands and the hands of the Grinch???
Long skinny pointy fingers.
You’re a mean one, Mr Grinch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBS7dVrE1U&feature=related
Sorry for the childish post, couldn’t help myself.
JBJD Im definately going to use it.
I am wrestling with music now but once I get that done the video will be just about done!
I thought I might have to call post to you from jail for legal services the other day J/k
Obama’s campaign for change had called my house for the 3rd time this week last night and without thinking..I snapped! I said “If you call my house one more time I wil come up ther eand track you down!”..
Probably not a good idea but since the police didnt show up I think I maybe finally made it to their Do Not Call List…
By the lake
Got em!
#733 heysandy:
“On the Situation Room today, (CNN, Wolf Blitzer), Donna Brazille was on and supposedly was a “close friend” of STJ … May she rest in peace.
She called her Stephanie Tubbs JOHNSON.
This just gets more bizarre by the minute.”
What an inappropriate time to make me ROFLMAO! Just kidding. Some one please post that on You Tube or just fined some video of here talking smack about her “close friend”.
Good laugh.
#727 michelle47 hey how’s it going.
#733 heysandy “She called her Stephanie Tubbs JOHNSON”. I can’t believe she got her name wrong
I don’t care if he was standing on an oil rig with the devil himself, Obama would still not get my vote. Leave me alone and bother others that believe hope and change to be good policy. McCain is obviously kicking Obamas sorry butt and it’s only going to get worse, better strap his helmet and knee pads on quick, because his fall from grace is going to be a nasty one!
—–Original Message—–
From: DNC Rapid Response Team
To: Michelle
Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:16 am
Subject: Exxon John poses on oil rig
Michelle —
Yesterday, John McCain staged a photo-op on an oil rig partially owned by ExxonMobil to promote his Big-Oil-First energy plan.
This rig was a perfect metaphor for his plan, since it took 10 years to produce a single drop of oil.
That’s the same 10-year lag that non-partisan energy experts and scientists say it may take before McCain’s “Drill here! Now!” energy plan produces any new oil.
So why does McCain want an energy plan that puts Exxon first?
How about two million bucks in campaign contributions from Big Oil?
Check out the “Exxon John” video our team made to expose John McCain for being in the pocket of Big Oil:
For nearly 30 years, Exxon John has stood with Big Oil and voted against alternative energy.
Just months ago, John McCain was the only Senator who skipped a vote on an energy bill to channel $13 billion in tax breaks for Big Oil into alternative energy development. The bill came out one vote short — but Exxon John’s friends in Big Oil came out one vote ahead.
John McCain is still playing energy politics the way they’ve been played for decades in Washington. Well-connected lobbyists and special interests get everything they could want while hardworking families get left behind.
Let’s make sure the public knows John McCain really puts Big Oil first. Pass the Exxon John video on to your family and friends today:
http://www.democrats.org/exxonjohn
Keep up the good fight,
DNC Rapid Response Team
The DNC Rapid Response Team is a grassroots rapid response group for Democrats to push back on misleading media, spread the truth, and take positive action.
Forward this email to your friends and family and invite them to join the DNC Rapid Response Team today.
trish! I just heard the song…”take My Breath Away”..and I thought immediately of Hillary….maybe you could use that song in one of your videos???
#732 1gypsy4mc:
Howdy, fellow Texan.
What you have there is a good plan B. I still say the A game is Kaine and Romney. Odds are looking good for me. I can’t wait to brag about this.
Obviously the begining was my response…New to copy and paste.
738 YesSheCan
Hey, Caracal Carrie – there is a picture of Stephanie and Hillary’s words on Hillary’s site.
Hey slyt2, good to see you if that’s possible in cyberspace!
LAST WORD ABOUT BO BC TONIGHT
Whether based on available information, BO is eligible to be POTUS under the Constitution has been discussed extensively on the noquarters and texasdarlin blogs, among others. But the problem was always, even assuming he is ineligible to hold this (or any other) federal office, what to do about it. That is, who had jurisdiction over the issue. And then, at 3:00 one morning, I had an epiphany: we do! That is, every candidate for the office of POTUS has to get onto the ballot in the state. And, the S’s of S have jurisdiction over the election process. So, I looked up the law in the state of TX – several Texans seemed particularly irate that no one they had contacted ‘would do anything about it’ – and, sure enough, in order to get onto the ballot for a federal office – for example, U.S. Senator or President – the candidate has to swear in the ballot submission papers he submits (through the state chair of the Party) that he is qualified for the office. And, anyone wishing to challenge a ballot submission just has to follow the process according to the provisions of that state’s law.
And I posted this solution on noquarter; and texasdarlin; and here. And by 8:00A it had gone viral.
Now, as I said previously on our blog, I cannot discuss this BO/BC issue in depth now, as I am still typing my fingers off trying to secure a HRC nomination.
maxgrader
you here in texas with me?
736 Anna7000 on 08.20.08 at 8:27 pm
Billie Jo – Thanks for posting your letter. You still sending it out using lobby delegates? You’re a real trooper!
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Actually I am using the link someone posted this morning too, it is a list by state and I go down and copy/paste each email they have, putting in about 15 email addresses on each letter. PUMAs can also use the email addresses they have from Murphy’s prowls earlier last week or so.
I decided to do this list since many seem like they are personal emails and I hope to reach them in a different door.
I would much rather use these last couple of days so do what ever I can to help our girl then to get into some of the bickering on the blog today.
So, I am in the background and will reply.
Busy little PUMAs.
If BO picks Kaine, I think he will loose more of his base. Neither one have any experience. I could never imagine Kaine as pres.
745 maxgrader
Hmmmmmmmm…You’re on, but half a win is NO win, OK?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/20/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4368675.shtml
#739 Caracal Carrie on 08.20.08 at 8:28 pm
JBJD Im definately going to use it.
I am wrestling with music now but once I get that done the video will be just about done!
I thought I might have to call post to you from jail for legal services the other day J/k
Obama’s campaign for change had called my house for the 3rd time this week last night and without thinking..I snapped! I said “If you call my house one more time I wil come up ther eand track you down!”..
Probably not a good idea but since the police didnt show up I think I maybe finally made it to their Do Not Call List…
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That’s so funny!
Yes, we are really worked up and working our little paws off and any enemy is gonna pay if they get in our way!
You go girl!
I hope you put some great alt. music on it…not too crazy for some with more conservative tastes. Maybe two versions, the ‘cool’ one and the ‘mellow’ version.
Just teasing, no flack back from PUMAs please.
Blue Blue gal:
Well, I live in Texas… but with a cat, not a gal.
I have been posting some “Notes from the Universe” on this blog and had the comment that perhaps BO is using this… I need to say this and let you all know that I do not believe for one minute that BO use this.
He is not using the Universe to get where he wants to go…
He steps on friends, uses Chicago Politics, Rezko, Axelrod, black theology, Rev. Wright, Fr. Pleger,etc, etc. etc….
He couldn’t be using the Universe and the power of the Universe while stepping on hearts, lying, and in general being a back-stabbing human being.
Middle age female #753, That would be great to see him lose more of the base. Pick Kaine Obama that would be good for that new coalition you are building.
#750 jbjd on 08.20.08 at 8:37 pm
LAST WORD ABOUT BO BC TONIGHT
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Good job jvjd. We are all working on something and we can work on taking him down if we have to later. We may not have to deal with it when Hillary wins the nomination. Then we can shame him on top of his loss.
Yeehaw!
Thought I’d check into tickets for DNC events (Hillary & Bill), but this is all I found. An interesting video about obots SELLING tickets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUD6tvSvUd8
#754 1gypsy4mc:
Okay. But anything’s a win for me if only Colin Powell is on somebody’s ticket. Considering he is a good friend of McCain I wouldn’t rule out that possiblity, albeit it’s a long shot.
maxgrader
two cats in my yard – lol lol
TRISH; I would love to see a video on BO with the song “YOUR SO VAIN”!
*trishfromcanada* I just replied to warcrafts post:
warcraft: you are living proof that sometimes the doctor does throw away the baby and keep the after birth
Is anybody listening to no talk radio I got on and was having trouble hearing it so I finally left, anything good happening.
slyt2 – I have trouble with the audio, as well. By the way, as long as we may be the only ones here, are we ok? Maryland e-mailed me that I had offended you and I truly had no idea. I fear you took my words in the wrong way. If you don’t want to deal with it with me, that’s ok. But, if you want, I’m here.
#729
Sorry, I went back a ways to find the link to the super delegate site I am using but it took too much time. It was a short post early this afternoon.
The easiest way is to just look in your inbox for the prowls from murphy with the super delate email addresses and use those.
….I saved the super delagate info in a word file and emailed them to myself, that is how I still know them.
BMW – I agree , there is NO WAY he is using it – and I am so grateful to you for sharing the quotes here on the blog .
Billie Jo – I’m curious. Since you’re using the addresses from prowls and I’m using lobby delegates and I assume both data bases have errors or outdated info, what kind of return rate are you getting. I’m batting a little under 10% coming back as undeliverable using lobby delegates.
762 maxgrader
OK Pumas: Maxgrader’s chosen:
BO/Kaine McCain/Romney
I chose:
BO/Bayh McCain/Pawlenty
Colin Powell could be a long shot for someone, but you can’t “include” him unless you want to do your long shots also, and I’ll match you also? Deal
So give me your long shots!!
(((((( SLY))))))) I can’t hear it EVER ….:(
Well i am glad it’s not my computer then, no we are fine It was certain words you used to describe me and i wanted it gone. It is over the post is gone and we don’t need to bring it up again. I have no problem with you or dealing with you at all
OMG. 1gypsy4mc and maxgrader – you two better stay away from las vegas, that’s all i can say!
slyt2 – ok. not another word about it.
(((((((((((TexasTigress)))))))))))))) back at ya .
Thank you anyway BillieJo – I will make do – nice to be acknowledged – was a little scared posting my first time when I saw so much going on -
Gypsy , I think XO is putting out false trails …
I think his pick is going to be Clark , and I think McCain will pick Condoleza Rice … Those are my bets .
#771 Anna7000 on 08.20.08 at 8:58 pm
Billie Jo – I’m curious. Since you’re using the addresses from prowls and I’m using lobby delegates and I assume both data bases have errors or outdated info, what kind of return rate are you getting. I’m batting a little under 10% coming back as undeliverable using lobby delegates.
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I am not using either of these sources. I am using email addresses I got off a link this afternoon on the blog. I saved it in a word file and can email it to you if you carefully give me your email address.
I have gotten very few bounce backs so far. (I think, maybe 2 or 3 at work today, I am now working on the rest of the list)
slyt2, Hey missed you yesterday, we could have cheesed it up for the cameras….If I knew how to make a smiley face I would do it.
772 1gypsy4mc
762 maxgrader
i think we will see what we are not expecting to see-
just grrr
778 bobram
Just jump in there with us…can’t get wet otherwise!
HI!
#778 bobram on 08.20.08 at 9:02 pm
Thank you anyway BillieJo – I will make do – nice to be acknowledged – was a little scared posting my first time when I saw so much going on -
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No reason to be afraid bobram, a lot of PUMAs are pretty wired up, stressed out and working hard. Jump in, at least you will know you did what you could to help Hillary win.
if you email me ill give you a list of SD emails….
my name @gm
Caracal Carrie
pet, stroke, pet, scratch under chin, rub ears……….
Billie Jo – Thanks for the offer. Sounds like the data base you’re using is very current. Probably a bit after-the-fact for me since I’m more than 90% through the list using lobby delegates. I only have a few more states using the undecided category. What was the link where you got that data base, I’m curious. I didn’t notice it (drat!).
Thank you 1Gypsy – have been lurking for a few weeks now – you are the one that always seem so helpful and nice to everyone – no wonder you were mentioned in that eulogy awhile back – and thank you as well BillieJo for your help.
prowland – is this the data base trish and others (including myself) worked on?
>:-)
Clinton and Powell are your long shots, 1gypsy4mc.
by the way, hi bobram. glad you jumped in. only way to go!
LOL Blue!
486 Kerri on
Are you lurking?????
729 bobram
I have been using the site that Anna7000 posted earlier:
http://www.lobbydelegates.com/default.aspx
Hey All,
Overnight post up — a tumultuous, emotional, and fraught day today.
Wonderful job holding it together everyone.
feel free to repost comments –
Take it upstairs!
778 bobram – HOWDY !!!!!! Now just tell Gypsy that I am absolutely right on my vp predictions on 778 and you’ll be raring to go !!!! lol
It is very sad to see Hillary’s notes of compassion for the families of Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Bill Gwatney on her website. Friends like these cannot be replaced. There will be a permanent emptiness.
*******Puma’s*********
Please read my message from today #197
On how protesters will be treated at the convention!!!
Sorry to hear about Tubbs
My prayers to her and family.
#781 michelle47 oh you know I would have been right there cheesing it up with you but I’m sure you did a great job and I can’t wait till it’s in the paper.
UPstairs folks
bobram – by the way, when murphy posts to “take it upstairs” it means there’s a new thread up, so don’t wonder why the dialogue on this one comes to a halt. (took me a while to figure out the jargon, but maybe it’s common among those who blog a lot, which i never did till i came here.)
#788 Anna7000 on 08.20.08 at 9:07 pm
Billie Jo – Thanks for the offer. Sounds like the data base you’re using is very current. Probably a bit after-the-fact for me since I’m more than 90% through the list using lobby delegates. I only have a few more states using the undecided category. What was the link where you got that data base, I’m curious. I didn’t notice it (drat!).
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I have no idea what the name of the link was, it is on the blog from much earlier today. Like I said, I looked for it for awhile but it took too long to find.
LOL.. I have a email to at to our arcive MURPHY
Ben Johnson
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Hey dumb ass don’t send me any more of this shit.
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I’m getting paranoid, but new posters who want the list of superdelegates so they can help worry me. They could be obots seeking to send outrageous letters in our name
810 atypical
oh ok….didnt know they where new
a little late anyway
CNN is making a total fairytale of Obama’s life.
Just out !!! this is major !!!
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/20/money-laundering-scandal/#comment-582816
645 Oneof18million cracks… ~~~ That was funny….about letting them know after the Democratic Convention.
Texas Tigress – address that Anna 7000 gave you for Geraldine Ferraro is correct.
Anna 7000 – From my conversation with Ms. Ferraro, I am very sure that she is not happy with the way the Primaries went and what she says in public, just like Hillary, is not what they believe in private. Their jobs and their careers depend on the Democratic party – to ask them to say what they truly feel would be conceived as being un-loyal to the party. It is like telling off your boss in his face publicly and still want to work there.
Anyway, the reason why I wanted to talk to Ms. Ferraro was that I wanted to hear what someone close and loyal to Sen. Clinton had to say. It was not easy to get a hold of her – I had to call for an appointment to have a phone conversation but she had told her assistant to expect my call.
re Denver
I heard a lot of people from Hillary Clinton Forum are going. I hope as many of you as possible can make it. I’m a no go now.
My daughter, who turned me on to Hillary during her original Senate campaign, told me about this wonderful site, because she knows how I feel about Hillary being denied the nomination. I was so moved to read comment after comment here.
I am sure that I am many years older than most, but I care about what Hillary stands for as much, if not more, than the younger ladies. Mr. Obama and his media have sung praises about he has supposedly inspired lots of folks to “get involved” in political activities for the first time. BUT, why isn’t the news talking about how Hillary’s historical efforts have inspired people like me, a retired woman living in a regular small town in New York , to want to do something for the first time in my long life about politicians?! Mr. Obama says that the Republicans are afraid of change- well, I say that the Washington elites in both parties, and the newspeople, are afraid of the change Hillary would bring!
Everyone is talking about vice-president picks, and these “short-lists”. I am so mad that Hillary’s name isn’t mentioned on Mr. Obama’s “short-list”! She really got more primary votes, and people like Mr. Biden, Mr. Bey, or Mr. Kaine weren’t EVEN running for the nomination but everyone keeps talking about them. I suppose that if Hillary was the nominee, she would be kind enough to give Mr. Obama the courtesy of placing him on her “short-list” since he came in second place. Mr. Obama is ignoring Hillary— he had better let her have her say at the Convention, or the DNC will rue the day!
I am writing letters to my Super-Delegates to urge them to do the right thing. My mother was involved in the suffrage marches as a young lady, and I regret that the one chance in my lifetime for a woman to be fairly considered for President may be gone forever. This is so sad, but in other ways so exciting. Forgive me if I am writing in circles, but I am new to Blogs.
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