photo by Nathan Lopez
There is something both profoundly vulnerable and at the same moment astonishingly strong about a person who stands alone to face opposition. The cowards among us will inevitably be inclined to ridicule you, or — much worse — if there is a crowd, they may attack. Our own Zee faced this outside Barack Obama’s Millionaire’s Birthday Ball in Boston last week. She stood alone and before long was ridiculed and then assaulted.
Geraldine Ferraro did a similar thing today by stating unequivocally on national TV that the double standard used against women who compete has GOT TO STOP — less viscerally brave perhaps, but no less profound.
We have a Special EVENING PUMA PAC ACTION tonight, Folks. I’m asking every Puma PAC member (or friend!) to write a handwritten thank-you note to Geraldine Ferraro. By standing up alone for Hillary today, she stood up for all of us.
Make your note short, sweet, and to the point — that way she’ll be able to read all of them!
Print out one of the Puma PAC letterheads on which to write your letter, or just use your own stationery. Get the letterhead HERE. We are sending Ms. Ferraro’s address as an email PROWL.
Please write your quick note of thanks tonight so you can drop it in the mailbox first thing in the morning. After you write your note, be sure to come back and BRAG in comments — hey! why not post a copy of your note, especially if it’s short and sweet. That way it will also be an inspiration and guide to other members!
Let’s get Prowling!
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I made it
Oh my I was first—Last nite I thought people had left when I realized that there was another thread.
Great idea. Geraldine Ferraro is amazing and deserves our gratitude.
k in northwest, You learn fast Kid!
Am I 2nd??? Yeah!
Trish, you’ve got mail
Darn!
working on my letter to Geraldine now.
someone said to take it upstaris so I moved —- LOL
Just received word that Bonnie Erbe, a writer at US News and World Report is showing distinct signs of being a secret Puma. Please read this article, just published, and comment in support of Puma.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/08/11/barack-obama-needs-to-carefully-handle-hillary-clintons-supporters.html
TY murphy
Repost:
#1059 Delphine from France,
Hi, I’m sorry. I must have missed your post. Tres bien, merci. Et vous?
Trish from Canada
I just saw you’re video, it is absolutely awesome!
Got me revved up! Makes me want to burn my bra – or something.
oops — thanks to freddiebrown and S. for suggesting this Prowl.
Are you listening to Jon Voight on Fox???
Pumas…do you think we should all e-mail Larry King and have him ask Pelosi if she’s seen Obama’s Original Birth Certificate to see where he was born? I did already. Even if all we got out of it is a mention, it might make Larry’s listeners sit up and take notice that maybe there is an issue with the birth certificate. Just an idea.
12 antifish
Too Good…we can tell XO that I can read your french!!
#15 diva2 yes I am and he brought up very good points more people need to be like that. Not just go with what’s in at the moment.
#15 diva2
What’s going on at Fox and J Voight?
What show was ferraro on?
I got 22 letters to Texas super delegates ready to put in the snail mail tomorrow and sent the following email to Elton John:
Dear Elton John,
I have been a fan of yours for years. I am writing to you because I am also a fan and big supporter for Hillary Clinton, and I have been told that you are a fan of hers too.
I am part of a group called PUMA (People United Means Action) here is the United States. We are a grassroot movement that is doing everything we can to get Hillary Clinton in nomination for president. She is the most qualified candidate but the democratic party has forced her to step aside for their selected candidate Barack Obama. Hillary has won the popular vote here but we are fighting against corrupt politics. Please visit our website http://blog.pumapac.org to get more information.
You are a well known and loved performer and people listen to you. If you would like to help us to achieve some our goals it would be so much appreciated. Please think about it and thank you in advance for your consideration.
Regards,
21 texassherry
You are a good Texas PUMA cowgirl!!
In the video Geraldine is the centre of one of the group shots, I chose that shot for her, this prowl is perfect timing, and the words sung to that photo are:
This is Karma wooohooo I’m hyped
#10 murphy good article thanks.
You know I’ve been thinking a lot lately and all the comments I’ve read saying how can we really be democrats if we are now supporting McCain (for those who are) or be against BO. Well my question is reading things about the unfair treatment, witnessing the unfair treatment, seeing what is going on now with BO and Clinton all the things the DNC and crew has done, I think the real question is how could you have been a real Clinton supporter and now support BO. You would have to be living under a rock to not read it in a local paper, hear it on the local news, see it on the internet,watch it on cable. So I think next time that question is posted I in return will ask them how can support him now.
murphy on 08.11.08 at 8:22 pm good Article.
Hookem Texassherry! Kudos on the letter.
~J
23 TrishfromCanada
you’ve got mail
Again, your video is very beautiful!!
Anna7000
Howard Dean. Ask him about the statistics POC PUMA posted the other night, listing previous candidates who were nominated at past conventions.
ooops the words are alomg the lines of if it isn’t broken , wear it out or do without break it!
#22 1gypsy4mc ,
Thanks, but I needed something to do today since I didn’t get to interview. Maybe tomorrow.
#10 murphy,
Good article. More and more people are becoming aware of the division in our party.
As Martha says….”It’s a good thing”
#26 Jeremy,
Hi Jeremy. Thanks but I’m not very good at letter writing. At least I think he’ll get the point.
Great idea, I already sent mine after Freddiebrown’s post downstairs.
Great prowl all!
30 texassherry
I called my DM and tried to feel her out…am hoping she will contact the DM for your district…I kinda hinted that we need to get you working..hope you don’t mind?
#32 Texassherry-
It is great! You are concise, to the point, and respectful. You said it best–”he’ll get the point.” And you did it in less than 3 paragraphs. You go!
~J
?????????ADDIE FOR GERALDINE FERRARO????
#34 1gypsy4mc,
Thanks again. Of course I don’t mind. The DON should be at the hospital tomorrow so hopefully I will be able to talk to her. I am going to try and get on second or third shift so I can still look for a better job during the day.
re#24…
AMEN!
i just wish mccain would shut up and stop sabre rattling against the russians because that’s all we need is another war that we cannot win..
#35 Jeremy ,
I write like I talk…short and to the point lol
Just listened to NPR. Go Murphy! wooooo hoooo.
Whenever people ask why you wouldn’t support XO over McCain because XO’s policies are so similar to Hillary’s, the obvious answer is “Well, who really knows what XO’s policies are? Not only does he contract himself in his speeches, he also says one thing and then does another. I don’t KNOW what XO’s policies are! Do you?”.
No one can possibly argue against that given all of the evidence out there that these is a true statements. FISA is a biggie and it illustrates the point beautifully.
#36 bmw60
Ferraro, Geraldine A.
575 Park Ave.
New York, NY 10065-7332
#37 texassherry
Well, hang a horseshoe up over your door, say a little prayer, and see it happening!!
Gotta go for awhile and fill out job app.
bbl ya’ll
#42 1gypsy4mc,
ok lol
Get your questions in for Nancy Pelosi- she will be on Larry King Live in a few minutes (CNN). Let’s ask her some pointed and intelligent questions, put her on the hot seat, shall we? She’s going to be on about John Edwards’ affair. Really important compared to the splintering of the Democratic party, wouldn’t you say?
#39 texassherry–
That is the best way. When I go to write something, I hear all the thoughts, but sometimes meander off topic and want to include the history of the world. I will go and re-read something and scratch it out and ask myself—what the heck does this have to do with anything?
WARMONGER OBAMA BLAMES RUSSIA, MIMICS BUSH, CHENEY
“Clearly over the course of the last 24 hours this crisis has escalated,” said Ben Rhodes, an Obama foreign policy aide. “Clearly Russia bears the responsibility for that escalation.” If this is the 3 AM phone call, Obama has failed miserably. Obama is running for the third term of the dotard warmonger Dick Cheney, who according to AP ‘told Georgia’s pro-American president that “Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States.”‘
jbjd – dean’s e-mail stated that the info is wrong on a web site (he didn’t identify which site and i hadn’t identified the site where i got the data) and i didn’t press him for the details regarding which aspects of it were accurate and which were erroneous. he primarily accounted for his own presidential bid as far as correction of accuracy.
in any case, dean and i actually exchanged one more round of e-mails since my last post. since i felt i had his ear and we were both being civil it seemed a good time to continue to press my main point, which i did and which he received with respect. i have no delusions about him or the ultimate meaning of our exchange. i’m not naive. but i do think that it’s important to know what the goal is in taking any specific action. if it’s to express anger, i think none of us having any trouble in that department. but if it’s to actually get someone’s ear, then i, for one, think it’s important to be sensitive to the tone of exchanges. whether or not the other person is being genuine if they respond, etc, no one can ever know. but given how many responses from sd’s and the like that PUMA’s have received that have been utterly rude and dismissive, i appreciated having the opportunity to have a couple of rounds of communication with dean that were respectful in tone.
again, i didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday and have no illusions, but if the choices are to have two minutes of someone’s ear vs total alienation, i felt i had his ear, for whatever it was worth.
meanwhile, i didn’t appreciate your sarcasm in the downstairs post and it really surprised me coming from you.
#41 texassherry-thanks for the address.
#45 determinedinNM
Ask her why she closed up shop for 5 weeks?
Did anyone else hear O’Reilly say they had the Edwards story months ago but didnt bring it out because of Edward’s wife’s health.
Sorry but O’Reilly is really starting to get to me.
#45 determinedinNM on 08.11.08 at 8:56 pm
For those of us who don’t watch CNN–keep us posted.
Thanks.
RATS!
I leave at the bottom at #1067, go for a snack, only to come back on top in the 50s.
Where is that elusive #1 for maxgrader?
Hi Murphy. Glad you liked my intro.
#51–”months ago?” Elizabeth knew a year ago according to John. That is a cop out as far as Bill O is concerned. Pass the buck and give excuses, even if it means health issues. Would they have kept the news under the table is it concerned Hillary when Bill was having bypass surgery? For some reason I doubt it.
Jeremy on 08.11.08 at 9:04 pm — Remember how they jumped all over McCain in regards to a rumored affair
And they had less than what the Enquirer had been presenting.
My short and sweet letter to Geraldine Ferraro mailed out on gorgeous stationary late this morning. It was so lovely to do something like this. A bit of relief and beauty while we wade through all the mud.
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
I want to thank you for our ardent support of Senator Clinton. Your voice has been a beacon of sanity amidst what has become a shameful Democratic Party process that has left me in a state of shock and disbelief.
Thank you for having the integrity and vision to stand by your convictions. Thank you for being willing to speak truth to power. Thank you for your abiding support of Senator Clinton and women everywhere, be they running for the highest office in the land or trying to get a minimum wage job.
Your voice continues to cut through the madness and represents so honestly and so eloquently what so many of us are fighting for.
Whew, Nancy Pelosi really pouring it on on Larry King Live saying she remained neutral during the primary and how great it would be to have a female VP candidate, be it Hillary Clinton, Kathleen Sebelius or Janet Napeolitano (sp?). So that may be the scoop for the night on the VP pick.
So far, Pelosi says she is so proud of Hillary Clinton’s campaign and how she “almost won”. Larry King will be asking her about the Energy crisis and why Congress is on recess, after the commercial break.
Pelosi also stated that doesn’t think Clinton would have benefitted if Edwards had not been in the campaign.
Rats! Just caught a typo in the first sentence! Damn spell check that can’t differentiate my thoughts from real words! Bummer…
this is unbelievable blah is putting out another book
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jdbOhNOEqQ-RKwYaxFy4dLJXfHKQ
Pelosi wants Bush to release the oil reserve and drill in the lower 48 states (of the 57, of course) to decrease gas prices. Wants to bring “immediate relief” to the American public, Alaska okay to drill according to her, also. What a crock!
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/08/its-time-for-clinton-to-tell-dnc-that.html
Read it!!, Pumas is really good article.
By the way, about sending letters to Elton John, what about sending e-mails to people from the entertainment? Being public figures will attract more attention to our cause.
While campaigning for Hillary in Texas, there were also campaigning Melanie Griffith, Eva Longoria and “Ugly Betty” (sorry i don’t remember her name) .
Jack Nicholson was another hillary supporter.
Wow, look at all the fun Pumas joining us!
Hello everyone!
#55 yes K–selective reporting and cya. As far as Bill O goes–he is just ticked that he didn’t get to report it first and was not granted the exclusive interview from JE but went to ABC. In my opinion–Elizabeth’s health issue makes his excuse even more pitiful. Bill O has some good points, but his negatives can blind them.
#58 determinedinNM ….Pelosi is condescending to Hillary supporters again!! It’s like being in a horse race and neither horse gets to the finish line but one comes within inches of the other and they call it for that one!! Pelosi is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party!
By the scoop of the night on the VP pick, I meant Janet Nap???, not Hillary.
We ALL should send email to George Clooney, Matt Damon..they’re supporters of NOBAMA. These two jokers are living under the rock!
#62 ElyLos Angeles…Great idea…How about Ted Danson and his wife?
61 determinedinNM
Is this what she is “saying”? If it is, then she’s a liar!
Never asked Pelosi a pointed question- come on, Larry!
re#62..
i can just hear some big hollywood producer telling celebs..”support hillary or mccain and you’ll never work in this town again!”
Pelosi also stated that doesn’t think Clinton would have benefitted if Edwards had not been in the campaign.
Thanks #58 determinedNM and #57 BigCatLover–remained neutral? If she said the above, it does not come off as being neutral. Keep us informed PUMAs and thanks!
ok does anyone else know of a good investigative reporter or anchor that i can write to????
My brain is starting to flop
#71 ny puma
I don’t think so, remember Jack Nicholson the wonderful video he did for Hillary.
We can try any way.
#60 prplvette85-
Obama Signs Book Deal
Three Rivers Press, a paperback imprint of Crown Publishing, will publish Sen. Barack Obama’s latest book, “Change We Can Believe In: Barack Obama’s Plan to Renew America’s Promise.”
Crown, a division of Random House Inc., itself a unit of Bertelsmann AG, also published Mr. Obama’s “Dreams From My Father” and “The Audacity of Hope.” According to the presidential candidate’s literary representative, Washington attorney Robert Barnett, the contract is between Crown and the senator’s campaign, not Mr. Obama himself.
The book will include a foreword by Mr. Obama and feature sections, written by members of his presidential campaign, on such issues as health care, energy and national security. Mr. Barnett says the campaign will donate all net proceeds to a charity. The book isn’t part of the senator’s current deal with Crown, which calls for him to write two more books, including a children’s book.
© 2008 Associated Press
There was that one guy i liked who was either from the washington post or the New York Times dang can’t remember his name and he wrote me back twice. He liked us
I wrote to Ms. Ferraro…
Thank you Ms. Ferraro for all you do and your bravery in speaking out for women’s rights. I especially thank you for continuing your support of the most electable Democra for POTUS – Hillary Rodham Clinton!
I wish I could sit with you someday over a cool pitcher of lemonade and thank you personally.
Regards
NOW ANYONE GIVE ME HER ADDIE????
Barbara Streisand, she was a friend of the Clintons.
But eventually now she is supporting obambi.
bmw60
Ferraro, Geraldine A.
575 Park Ave.
New York, NY 10065-7332
Today’s Prowl done.
bmw60 – see post #41. it’s her snail mail address. i don’t think her e-mail has been posted on this blog.
I allready have my letter to Geradine Ferraro in a envelope and ready to mail
Murphy, thanks for the great radio interview from D.C. this week-end, and the great one this morning on NPR. Especially — thanks for being in D.C. for all of us who couldn’t be!
another one who would do a video about Pumas would be Jack Nickolsen but i can’t fins a addy for him
He loves Hillary
re#75..
by all means..GO FOR IT in hollywood!
Barbara will switch back if we can get a hold of her
*****
Ferraro, Geraldine A
575 Park Ave
New York, NY 10065-7332
*****
Murphy was going to send Ms. Ferraro’s address by email to protect her privacy. Murphy doesn’t know it is all over the internet – just punch in her name and address comes up or go to http://www.411.com
Great letters Pumas. Maybe I will borrow a word or two ? I get to use nice stationery too !
Completed my prowl….a Thank You card is ready to mail AM to Geraldine Ferraro…Murphy, You have a brown envelope being sent snail mail from me…You should get it by Friday…Just remember, keep focused and stay the course and we will prevail….Have a great evening Puma’s…Take Care,
another one who is close to Hillary is Fran Dresure
#70 determinedinNM on 08.11.08 at 9:16 pm
Did she comment on her book sales? Did he ask her about it? Larry is half fluff in my opinion and I for one have never witnessed an interview where he was trying to crack the egg.
I agree with the writer.
August 11, 2008
Why Obama is in Trouble
By Steven Warshawsky
There is palpable anxiety, even despair, among many Republicans and conservatives over the possibility that Barack Obama will be elected president this November. This anxiety is being fueled by the mainstream media’s fawning coverage of Obama’s every word, while shamelessly downplaying John McCain’s campaign; by public opinion polls that purport to show Obama “leading” the race over McCain; and by political commentators, on both sides of the aisle, who believe this is the Democrats’ “election to lose,” based on historical cycles, an uneven economy, high gas prices, continuing opposition to the Iraq War, and President Bush’s dismal approval ratings.
I don’t share this anxiety. For months now, I have been reassuring my right-leaning friends that Barack Obama will not be elected president. If I were a gambling man, I would buy lots of McCain stock on Intrade. Why am I so confident that John McCain is going to win the election? In short, because Barack Obama is not an acceptable choice to lead the country. Let me explain.
Obama is too young and inexperienced.
One of Obama’s most striking characteristics is how “green” he is compared to previous presidential candidates. Obama was born on August 4, 1961. He just turned 47 years old. The average age of elected presidents since 1952 (the era of televised politics) is 56.
If elected president, Obama would be the fifth youngest president in U.S. history. The only younger presidents would be Teddy Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Ulysses S. Grant, all of whom were much more accomplished than Obama. Grant, Roosevelt, and Kennedy were war heroes. (Not Clinton, notoriously.) Roosevelt and Clinton had served as state governors. Grant had been the general-in-chief of the Union Army during the Civil War. The least experienced of the four, Kennedy, had served twelve years in Congress, six in the House of Representatives and six in the Senate, and had been a serious candidate for vice-president in 1956.
What has Obama accomplished to date? In truth, not very much — except to master the art of self-promotion.
Obama has written two best-selling autobiographies: Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (1995) and The Audacity of Hope (2006). Yet he has never served in an important leadership position in government, business, or the military. His ability to perform as a chief executive officer is completely untested.
Obama has prestigious degrees from Columbia University and Harvard Law School, but no significant professional achievements to his name. No businesses or organizations he has founded or managed. No law firm partnerships. No important cases he has tried. Not a single work of legal scholarship he has authored, despite having been Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard Law Review and a part-time law professor at the University of Chicago for twelve years. (This is unheard of in the elite ranks of the legal profession, and calls into question the bona fides of Obama’s professorship.)
Obama’s principal occupation before entering politics was as a “community organizer” in Chicago. By his own admission, these efforts achieved only “some success,” and none worthy of highlighting on his campaign website. Obama then served eight unexceptional years in the Illinois Senate, and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004, where he is not even considered one of the Democratic Party’s legislative leaders.
And this man believes he is “the one we have been waiting for”?
Obama may be considered a “rock star” by his supporters, but the kind of superficial glamour and excitement that this terminology suggests is not what most voters are looking for in a president. Heartland values, not Hollywood values, still define what most voters want in a president. Most voters want a president whom they perceive as loyal, courageous, hardworking, and fair. Someone who commands the respect of others through the strength of his character and the wisdom of his actions. Someone who is prepared to fight to protect his home and country from invaders. In other words, someone who appeals to voters, on a psychological or emotional level, as the kind of person they would want for a father, husband, boss, or comrade-in-arms.
Rock stars may be fun, but they do not fit this image. Neither does Obama. His life story, while unique and interesting, bespeaks little more than an ambitious and opportunistic young man, still wet behind the ears, with an unhealthy fascination with his own ego – and potentially unreliable when the chips are down.
The American people are not going to entrust the security and prosperity of the country to such an immature and unproven man.
Obama is too liberal.
The last Democratic presidential candidate who garnered more than 50% of the popular vote was Jimmy Carter in 1976 – and Carter received only 51% of the vote in a political environment marked by defeat in Vietnam, the Watergate scandal, an energy crisis, and stagflation. There has been only one other Democratic president in the past 40 years: Bill Clinton. Despite campaigning as “New Democrat,” Clinton received only 43% of the popular vote in 1992 (his victory was due to the third-party candidacy of Ross Perot) and 49% of the popular vote in 1996. Significantly, the Democratic candidate’s share of the popular vote has gone down the last two elections. Al Gore received 48.4% of the popular vote in 2000, and John Kerry received 48.3% in 2004.
The Democratic Party has a terrible track record at the presidential level since the 1960s because it consistently nominates far left presidential candidates who do not represent the values, interests, and aspirations of most Americans. See McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry. Even Gore, who was considered a “moderate” Democratic (no longer), lost to the uninspiring George W. Bush in 2000.
Barack Obama is no exception. In his brief tenure in the U.S. Senate, Obama has compiled a consistently liberal voting record, and was named the Most Liberal Senator for 2007 by the National Journal. This distinction does not augur well for Obama. John Kerry was named the Most Liberal Senator for 2003 — the year before he lost the 2004 presidential contest to Bush.
As a U.S. Senator, Obama has voted along Democratic Party lines 97 percent of the time, almost 10 percentage points higher than the average for Senate Democrats. So much for his “bipartisan” image. He opposed funding for the War on Terror that was not tied to a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. He opposed strengthening the ability of the federal government to monitor terrorist communications. He voted in favor of providing habeas corpus rights to detainees at Guantanamo Bay. He supported the failed “comprehensive immigration reform” bills. He voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. He opposed a bill that would have reduced the federal estate tax. He voted against the confirmations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court.
For his efforts, Obama has received “100″ ratings from Americans for Democratic Action, Planned Parenthood, the AFL-CIO, the American Federation of Government Workers, Citizens for Tax Justice (i.e., for raising taxes on the “rich”), Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the National Education Association, and the National Organization for Women. He has received “F” grades from the National Taxpayers Union, the National Rifle Association, and U.S. English, a 13 rating from Citizens Against Government Waste, 7 ratings from the Club for Growth, the American Conservative Union, and the Eagle Forum, and zero ratings from the Family Research Council, the National Right to Life Committee, and Americans for Tax Reform.
Obama’s voting record as a state senator reflected the same left-wing agenda: He opposed restrictions on partial birth abortion and requiring medical care for fetuses who are born alive during an abortion. He opposed requiring school officials to install pornography-blocking software on public computers accessible to minors. He opposed a $500 income tax credit for parents who send their children to private schools. He supported restrictions on gun ownership, and opposed a bill that permitted the owner of an unregistered handgun to claim self-defense if he used the gun in his own home. He consistently voted in favor of higher taxes.
True to form, in his campaign for president, Obama advocates a dizzying array of hyper-liberal policies, including: “equal pay” laws, expanded federal leave laws, expanded “hate crime” laws, a panoply of social services for convicted criminals, increasing foreign aid spending by tens of billions of dollars with the goal of “cutting extreme poverty around the world in half by 2015″ (pure utopianism paid for by the American taxpayer), requiring 25 percent of U.S. electricity come from “renewable” sources by 2025 (an impossible goal without drastically shrinking the economy), spending tens of billions of dollars on an FDR-style array of federal economic programs, further raising the minimum wage, and providing “affordable” and “comprehensive” health insurance to all Americans (aka socialized medicine). Naturally, he proposes to pay for all these programs by raising taxes on “the wealthiest taxpayers” and imposing a “windfall profits tax” on oil companies.
With the sole (and misguided) exception of “universal health care,” there is little popular demand in this country for the kind of soak-the-rich, tax-and-spend politics that Obama is offering. This is not 1932 or 1965. The American people are not interested in another round of top-down social engineering by the federal government. If anything, the nation’s political leaders need to catch up to the waves of conservative and populist impulses spreading throughout the country. See, for example, the grassroots movement to limit the eminent domain power of state and local governments and the nationwide revolt against “comprehensive Immigration reform.”
Obama’s dissolutely liberal politics will sink him in the general election, just as it torpedoed previous Democratic candidates.
Obama is too race-conscious.
Finally, we come to the “hot button” issue in this election: Obama’s black racial consciousness.
Contrary to what Obama and his supporters want the American people to believe, Obama is not a “post-racial” politician. As abundantly demonstrated in his two autobiographies, his 20-year membership in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s “unashamedly black” Trinity United Church of Christ, and his “intensely race-conscious approach” to politics as an Illinois state senator (see here), Obama is deeply committed to his “black” identity — despite having a white mother and being raised for much of his childhood by his white grandparents. Furthermore, Obama built his political career on promoting the interests of the black urban community. Right or wrong, fair or unfair, Obama’s black racial consciousness is going to have a negative effect on his campaign for president by undermining his appeal among white working- and middle-class voters.
Let’s look at some numbers. According to the CNN exit poll, in the 2004 presidential election, the electorate was composed of 77% whites, 11% blacks, 8% Latinos, 2% Asian, and 2% other. They voted as follows: whites 58-41 for Bush; blacks 88-11 for Kerry; Latinos 53-44 for Kerry; Asians 56-44 for Kerry.
I see little reason to believe that the Latino or Asian votes will change substantially in 2008. Clearly, the black vote will shift even more strongly in favor of the Democratic candidate. However, the white voting population is seven times larger than the black voting population. Consequently, a shift in the black vote of seven percentage points is roughly equivalent to a shift in the white vote of one point. Even if Obama were to receive essentially all black votes, which is unlikely, a loss of less than two percentage points of the white vote would be enough to offset these gains.
So the key to the upcoming election is whether white voters will be more, less, or equally likely to vote for Obama as for Kerry. I believe the answer is less likely.
Interestingly, commentators on the left tend to agree with this prediction, because they believe that many white voters are “racists”; commentators on the right usually ignore the race issue altogether, because they fear that any discussion of white voting preferences will support the “racism” charge. I disagree that “racism” is the explanation. Rather, it is Obama’s history of race-based politics and his membership in a militant black church – which places him in opposition to most white voters on such emotional issues as welfare, crime, and affirmative action, and casts doubt on his ability and commitment to represent the interests of the entire nation.
To develop a profile of Obama’s electoral strengths and weaknesses, I examined the CNN entrance and exit polls for the 2008 Democratic primaries in Iowa, New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. These were the states in which the spread between Bush and Kerry in 2004 was three percentage points or less (in either direction). (New Hampshire also belongs on this list, but I could not find polling data for the 2008 primaries in that state.) I selected these states because they are likely to be the critical battlegrounds this fall.
The polls show that, in general, Obama did especially well among black voters, younger voters (under 45), voters who earn more than $100,000 per year, voters with college and postgraduate degrees, non-religious voters, and self-described liberal voters. In other words, the core constituencies of the Democratic Party. On the other hand, he demonstrated much less appeal to white voters, older voters (ages 45 and up), voters who earn less than $50,000 per year, voters with some or no college education, Catholic voters, and self-described moderate voters. In other words, white working- and middle-class voters — so-called Reagan Democrats. These voters strongly preferred Hillary Clinton.
Significantly, in the 2004 election, John Kerry performed reasonably well among this group. He won 55 percent of voters who earn less than $50,000. He won 47 percent of voters ages 45 and up. He won 47 percent of voters with no college degree. He won 47 percent of Catholic voters. He won 55 percent of self-described moderate voters. Nevertheless, Kerry lost. If only a few percent of these voters switch to McCain, as I believe they will, Obama cannot win. Yes, tens of millions of Americans (of all colors) will vote for Obama; but more will vote for McCain.
Overall, I predict Obama will receive even less of the popular vote than John Kerry in 2004 (48.3%), and perhaps as little as Michael Dukakis in 1988 (45.7%).
As I wrote last December, “[t]he pundits can talk until they are blue in the face about Obama’s charisma and eloquence and cross-racial appeal. The fact of the matter is that Obama has no chance of being elected president in 2008.” I am more convinced of this conclusion than ever.
Murphy wants us to please send snail mail – it is on the post up top.
TY TY TY TY TY TY TY TY TY TY TY TY
TY YOU TEXASHERRY…. I MISSED IT WHEN I ASKED FOR IT AGAIN!!!
DANG AM I GETTING OLD?
hi freddiebrown i got a e-mail off to Geraldo at Large hmmm wow trying to think of more who investigate
Does anyone have a clip or transcript of today’s Ferraro interview?
I have not forgotten you, I have been reading.
I read the high points, unfortunately I do not have the time to be online that long.
I do hope and pray that the PUMA PAC is GROWING and GROWING and GROWING.
See you in Denver!
Remember pumas— Dreams Are Our Bridges to Our Future…..
So never never give up your dreams….
Hillary ’08
We need Jack Nicholsen he adores Hillary and so does Fran Dressur as she is close to Hillary
Dear Ms. Ferraro:
I am writing to tell you “Thank You!” for your unwavering support of Hillary Rodham Clinton.
As usual, your comments today on why Senator Clinton’s name should be placed in nomination at the Convention were both informative and encouraging.
To those of us that will never stop believing, Hillary Clinton is the only real choice for America in these troubled times. Denying 18 million majority voters recognition of our election of Hillary Clinton as our choice of the democratic nominee is still beyond belief. Denying us the opportunity to see her name in nomination, however, will be the end of party affiliation for many of us – which I have reason to believe is far greater in numbers than the party will acknowledge.
I am an action member of Puma (People United Means Action). Pumapac.org was founded by Darragh Murphy on June 7th. Each day, thousands of women and men gather and take action, informing the DNC and our democratic elected officials that “we are not falling in line or voting for Barack Obama”. We are well-informed, organized voting Americans against the Democratic Party’s undemocratic “selection” of Obama as the nominee. We have emailed, sent letters and made phone calls – totaling hundreds of thousands of communications in all. Yet, the DNC barely acknowledges us and the mainstream media considers us relatively “insignificant.”
When we hear voices like yours, Ms. Ferraro, we hear our own. When we see your courage to speak up for all American voters to have their voices heard and their candidate recognized for having earned their votes, we know we are not alone. When a highly accomplished woman, who has spent a lifetime in public service, continues to stand up for what is right in upholding our democratic process, no matter what the critics say, it becomes all too clear: The respect we are demanding is not only for Hillary Clinton and her voters, but for those that have gone before her and those that are to come.
Thank you so much for being a voice for our democracy and standing up for Hillary Clinton.
Although, I am certain you are already considered an Honorary Puma, please come and visit us at http://www.blog.pumapac.org.
With much respect,
For some reason my post isn’t getting thru. 3rd and final time.
#10 Murphy
Finally someone in the media is talking about the way Hillary has been treated. She is entitled to have her delegates heard. In most (if not all) conventions, presidential candidates have been allowed to do this. Are we changing tradition for Hillary? What is the Obama Camp afraid of?
While I have great admiration for Senator Clinton (I voted for her in the primary);I will give my support to the person I believe is best for our country. Unfortunately, because of his treatment of President and Senator Clinton combined with his inexperience ( not to mention his “Presidential” overseas tour),he only has shown me he is NOT the person to govern our great country. Senator McCain has my vote.
Anna7000-
I too have been exchanging emails w/someone who initially identified herself as an “OB Superdelegate” but who now signs her emails with her first name. Instead of trying to get her to change her vote, I focussed on democracy and getting Hillary into nomination.
I told her about PUMA PAC–and that we’re not “a bunch of racist middle-aged she-devils riding around on broomsticks waiting to gouge out the eyes of unsuspecting men.” I told her she can lurk on the site and NO ONE will know she’s here. I have a gut feeling that she’s afraid and that’s why I don’t want to identify her.
wontbackdown – great letter! thanks for posting it!
101 won’t backdown great letter
PUMA pac rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
OMG i didn’t send a letter to Larry King it’s worth a try.
jody – interesting story. do you still communicate with her or was it just a couple of go-rounds. either way, more power to you for working some magic.
sandipuma – girl, you are on a roll! how much coffee you had today so far?!*
Where is TigressGold i need to pick her brain
#56Anna
Thank you for sharing your great “talking points”. Have my letter addressed . . am personalizing. You are so eloquent, yet concise.
#62 Ely Los Angeles Saved and copied article “TomInPaine. Have a list of friends to send it to! It’s GREAT!
ELY . . .I live in SoCal. Did you attend the Aug. 3 meeting? I was out of state for two weeks, and I’m just catching up.
I don’t srink coffee just lots of water and i took a lasix pill
Murphy is there an e-mail address for Mrs. Ferraro?
have my note filled out for Ferraro all the way from Montana on PUMA letterhead….will mail tomorrow…Hope she gets tons of these!!!!
Hillary ’08 !!!
PUMA POWER!!
BRB need to send 2 letters hehehehehehe
will any pumas be allowed inside the denver convention or is the DNC going to corral them all behind cattle wire on the outside?
anyone know?
#108 Anna7000
Several go-rounds; I just sent another tonight. If she corrects one person’s misperception of PUMAs then it’s a good thing, whether she changes her vote or not.
(And when BO goes down, she will have a place to call home.)
My Encounter With Hillary 8-8-08
For those that knew the “gift” I planned to give Hillary at the campaign event on Friday in Las Vegas.
Please check out the blog to read what happened
GEtting lots of good reviews from everyone
http://amindofmyowncoalition.blogspot.com/
Also for the complete pictures and everything else you can check the Mind Of My Own Coalition’s myspace
http://www.myspace.com/mindofmyowncoalition
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
Regarding G. Ferraro. Scroll down to election headquarters.
Completed prowls for the day.
Completed 6 emails or letters to Swing Super Delegates
Here is my letter, I tweaked parts of the original:
8/11/08
PUMA Pac
Contact: Murphy@pumapac.org
Dear Swing State Super Delegate,
I understand that you will be casting your delegate vote for Senator Obama at the convention. I strongly oppose Senator Obama receiving delegate votes from a state that Senator Clinton had won in the primaries.
Our votes are sacred. The Founding Fathers created a system where the majority rules through an election process. When it is violated, trust in our government is broken. More significantly, Senator Clinton is the best Democratic candidate to represent Democrats and win the Presidency. As you know, winning your state is CRUCIAL for the Democrats to regain the White House.
As other pundits have noted, the country wants to elect a Democratic President but not Senator Obama. The party loses credibility not only with their base voters but with the rest of the electorate by endorsing such a weak candidate. We need delegates that will
stand up to the party bosses and carry the Voice of the Voters to the Convention and VOTE for the candidate who can win it for us in your crucial state in November.
I am a Democrat and a member of Puma PAC, People United Means Action (http://blog.pumapac.org). We are the Voice of the Voters in the Democratic Party and we will do everything we can to stop the party bosses from forcing YOU to select an unprepared and preposterously weak candidate in Denver.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
I listened to PBS, FOX, and CNN about the Edwards story. Pumas, this is the time for us to write the Ombudsman of the WP, NYT, etc. They are doing a lot of soul searching around this story. They must investigate *61.
I’m going to spend my time reading your posts.
Prowl is signed, sealed, stamped and ready to deliver!
P.S. Did my prowls, sent out some extra letters by snail mail – Did the night prowl which was GREAT to do on the heels of Ferraros outspoken support!
Thanks for suggesting it!
Goodnight everyone… you guys have been smokin’ today!
…and typing really fast, too! LOL! Must have found your turbo “Es” !
————–
#119 Jeremy:
Ferraro, Geraldine A
575 Park Ave
New York, NY 10065-7332
rancho – thanks. glad some of what i wrote was helpful your own writing process.
jody – that is really interesting that you have an ongoing exchange. i’m very impressed and intrigued.
I have a confirmed snail mail address for her that I’m sending to the membership in email.
I’d rather not publish it on the front page of the blog. Please look for it in your email tonight.
And let’s hear about some more Pumas writing notes.
Doesn’t have to be the World’s Greatest Letter, a two-line thank you packs a lot of feeling too.
I know because I get the most lovely cards and notes every week. “Thank you for all you are doing,” really lifts me up and makes me grateful.
BRB
Sandipuma: just sent you a link to Pro Publica. They are an investigative reporting agency of journalism…that investigates goverment & politics. They a non-profit jornalism in the public interest, and you can contact them thru this site. Go to the site feeds and they also ask for story ideas…
Tigress
Here’s my note –
Dear Ms. Ferraro –
I’m just writing, as a PUMA from both NYC and Connecticut, to express my deep appreciation for your courage in stating the obvious – that the DNC’s appointed nominee has, to put it mildly, not got the qualifications to be our Commander in Chief. I keep wondering what Tip O’Neill would have thought about all this – but then again, this travesty would never have happened on his watch.
I’m a registered Democrat but I will not vote for Obama or for anyone who supported him in the CT primary. My husband, who votes in NYC, fixes the blame for President McCain squarely on the superdelegates.
You gave them fair warning, and I will always be appreciative of that.
Many thanks.
P.S. #104 Anna7000…#105sandipuma… Thanks!
—-
Sorry if my letter was too long, Murphy. It was from the heart, though.
(Her address was posted on the previous thread)
Goodnight!
#48 Anna7000
I jokingly used the word “boyfriend” to refer to Chairman Dean but I was serious about discussing with him getting historical information about previous nominations.
I read both of your posts tonight relating to your contact with Chairman Dean. That is, I read your first post, in which you reported that you sent him correspondence containing inaccurate information; that he responded in a manner you found “unprofessional,” that is, he pointed out the factual mistakes in your correspondence; and that you responded to instruct him as to the inappropriateness of his comments. I read your second posting, in which you described his ‘apologetic’ response.
Did you read my post to you, on Sunday, wherein I described the trouble I was having getting accurate information on line about previous nominees, in which posting I explained that the easiest way to get historical information on the party would be to call the DNC and that every time I try this, I get the runaround?
In other words, having spent hours trying to research past candidate information – how many delegates they had gathered before the convention, whether these candidates got onto the ballot and, if so, how many votes they received – including going to the DNC site, expecting this information would be on line; just so that you could have accurate information for the letters you said you wanted to send, I was merely proposing one way to get this information would be to ask Chairman Dean, given my impression, having read your postings, he would be willing to provide you with this information.
Wrote my thank you – short and sweet! What a good idea.
wontbackdown goodnite..
BTW… is that our Zee at the top of tonight’s thread standing alone with a sign in glorious black an white?
wontbackdown – i never knew if you were male or female, but now that i see your most recent post i see all the telltale signs of female. so let me say, girl (lord, i hope i’m right) you just got complimented by more than one on this blog. don’t go undermining yourself by apologizing for anything. we women are so good at that. your letter was great!
hope you have a good night…sweet dreams…
jbjd – thanks for your post. and, no, i hadn’t seen your post yesterday from your own research trying to corroborate the data from the POC PUMA site. i appreciate you trying and it’s a shame it’s so hard to gather. anyway, i made an executive decision that while i had dean’s ear to keep my priorities focused, which was/is to make my case for clinton’s name to be placed in nomination. i just couldn’t picture confusing the issue by asking the chairman of the party for historical details. that’s the choice i made and i feel it was the right one, at least for me. as i said, we’ve had another somewhat more lengthy e-mail exchange. it is what it is and i feel good about how i handled it. there was no antagonism and i felt we actually gave the other a few moments to express a few ideas.
jbjd – thanks for your post. and, no, i hadn’t seen your post yesterday from your own research trying to corroborate the data from the POC PUMA site. i appreciate you trying and it’s a shame it’s so hard to gather. anyway, i made an executive decision that while i had dean’s ear to keep my priorities focused, which was/is to make my case for clinton’s name to be placed in nomination. i just couldn’t picture confusing the issue by asking the chairman of the party for historical details. that’s the choice i made and i feel it was the right one, at least for me. as i said, we’ve had another somewhat more lengthy e-mail exchange. it is what it is and i feel good about how i handled it. there was no antagonism and i felt we actually gave the other a few moments to express a few ideas.
ugh. sorry. not intentional. please God of Deletion: delete one!
93 Asian4Hillary
I think this is the link for the article you posted.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/why_barack_obama_will_not_win.html
#118 Lets Get It Started,
That was so beautiful!! You are so talented. Great pictures. I would have felt just like you did! Hillary will always remember you for that wonderful gift.
Anna7000 it’s ok
ok I am not really good at letters , so here is my rough draft feel free to tell me what is wrong, I will sent it out tomorrow.
Thank you Ms. Ferraro, for all the wonderful things you have said from the beginning about Hillary, I share your admiration for her. I also would like to thank you for speaking up for woman’s right you are a wonderful woman and person. I thought it was horrible what happened to you during the primaries but I admired the way your loyalty to Hillary never faded. A lot of people would have shied away from the public but not you, you stood firm in your beliefs and your commitment to Hillary. It broke my heart when you had to step down from her committee but as a true friend you thought of your friend first. I think you are wonderful; you and Hillary are truly one of the few women who are great role models for woman today and in the future.
Sincerely,
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sly , excellent letter . Well spoken and from the heart .
EWard – saw our post and i’m intrigued. what role do ombudsman play in the media?
Larry Johnson was just on Ed and MommaE blog radio show and he said that something major could break at the end of this week or early next week that would knock Obama right out of the race. He could not give out any details, he was not sure if the people will release the info but if they do Obama is done.
I am not a fan of Dick Morris, but he made some good observations about McCain and *61. McCain came out strong denouncing Russia’s aggression against Georgia.
What does *61 say? Both sides need to tone down the violence. Pumas, day after day the country is seeing the real *61. He doesn’t have a clue how to handle a crisis or speak about it.
Keep up the good work and write your letters to the media, delegates, DP, and so on. This man must be defeated.
slyt2 – what a very sweet letter – obviously very heart felt. i wouldn’t change a thing. there are just some punctuation issues. here’s the edited version with the punctuation fixed:
Thank you Ms. Ferraro, for all the wonderful things you have said from the beginning about Hillary. I share your admiration for her. I also would like to thank you for speaking up for woman’s rights. You are a wonderful woman and person. I thought it was horrible what happened to you during the primaries, but I admired the way your loyalty to Hillary never faded. A lot of people would have shied away from the public, but not you. You stood firm in your beliefs and your commitment to Hillary. It broke my heart when you had to step down from her committee, but as a true friend you thought of your friend first. I think you are wonderful. You and Hillary are truly one of the few women who are great role models for woman today and in the future.
Sincerely,
great work janelb1950 — I find that just writing the note makes me feel uplifted. It’s weird, but in a good way.
I finished my thank you letter to Geraldine now I need her address I just checked my email and I did not get it
Check out http://www.plainsradio.com/ or http://hcsfjm.com/
They replay the show all day long until the new show that starts at 8 pm. Larry was on the 2nd hour and made this announcement around 40 or so minutes into his visit. Right after a break.
Right now they have a new show running with MommaE and Christie
slyt2 – forgot to break out paragraphs. here are my recommendations. I didn’t change any of your touching words, just broke ideas into 3 paragraphs:
Thank you Ms. Ferraro, for all the wonderful things you have said from the beginning about Hillary. I share your admiration for her. I also would like to thank you for speaking up for woman’s rights. You are a wonderful woman and person.
I thought it was horrible what happened to you during the primaries, but I admired the way your loyalty to Hillary never faded. A lot of people would have shied away from the public, but not you. You stood firm in your beliefs and your commitment to Hillary. It broke my heart when you had to step down from her committee, but as a true friend you thought of your friend first.
I think you are wonderful. You and Hillary are truly one of the few women who are great role models for woman today and in the future.
Sincerely,
From downstairs:
To #872 delphinefromfrance
“Hi mzebest ! I don’t know if you are here tonight, as I have just arrived. But I wanted to tell you I have kept my promise : I’ve just translated the video showing Will Bower on a French TV: visible on my site : section “En complément” “Press archives””
~~~~~~~~~~
Thank you so much delphinefromfrance — you’re awesome and I enjoyed reading the translation which helped tremendously to know what was being said.
I hope you see this post…. you’re awesome and I’m so happy you’re a part of this group. Your contributions are wonderful.
For any PUMA’s that are interested… there was an interview of Will Bower with the French media. Delphine posted the interview and wrote an English transcript of what is being said (posted below the video) here:
http://hillary.meilleur.choix.qu-obama.over-blog.com/pages/Press_Archives-579244.html
slyt2 — yes you are really good at letters.
feeling the eyes watering now. . .
#46 Jeremy,
rofl @ history of the world… I do that too.
#141 Anna
Excellent question! The ombudsman for every media organization represents either the voice of its readers or viewers. In the PBS story about Edwards, the reporter kept on mentioning Clark Hoyt the ombudsman of the NYT and his analysis of their coverage.
To me this is the time to write our letters about covering *61. Every Puma knows that he has not been vetted. Just like the story about Edwards, the media brushed it off.
EWard – Are you saying that the ombudsman holds a special level of power to push vetting? (Sorry if I’m being thick. This is a hectic time of day in my house.)
I’ve written my letter and its in the mail
As soon as Hillary suspended her campaign, I had a feeling she wasn’t done and that feeling is stronger now than ever.
I am trying to convince my manager to give me time off so I can go to Denver…she supports *61 but has said she admires my loyalty to Hillary.
She jokes with me about time off now so it’s only a matter of time
I have sent about 200 letters to SDs today and I am working on a post on Clintondems
I’m Ky4Hill on Clintondems (future reference lol)
NObama…NOvember…NO Joke.
Murphy — I finally had a chance to listen to your NPR interview. You were so wonderful. Don’t know the other lady’s name — but between the two of you — it was well paced and important points were made. I loved the contributions that both of you were able to bring to the table and the ideas you presented. Excellent representation of the PUMA movement.
#148 Anna7000 Dang I could have used u doing english class, maybe I would have gotten better then a B- . Thank you TexasTigress and thanks Anna7000 for the input.
Probably been posted but I haven’t had time to catch up . These are the “Clinton e-mails and memos ”
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200808u/clinton-memos
can anyone explain to me what “The Clinton Chronicles” are?
#143 EWard well if the fighting keeps up he can give them a good talking to , I’ve heard he gives great speeches.
#142 vadaryl:
Johnson needs to wait for something actual rather than play teaseball with people. He used that same kind of stunt by saying news about the Michelle tape would be released. Hasn’t happened yet, has it?
He’s like an article you find about a discovery that “may” lead to a cure to cancer. Why don’t the researchers and doctors just wait unitl a fact is a fact instead of getting people all excited over nothing.
Whenever I see a headline about cancer remedies with the word “may” or “could” or “might” in it I ignore and read elsewhere. It’s just filler news.
That’s how I see Mr. Larry Johnson… nothing more than a filler looking for attention.
Oh, stop with this stuff about your wife and FOX, Obama. Your wife is your Achille’s Heel and the whole country knows it!!
slyt2 – the punctuation is the least. being able to express ideas and feelings with words is a gift. you wrote something beautiful and unique. meanwhile, glad i could help with the minor details.
Mountain Song – Your post is making me laugh, because I’m not watching what your watching, but I’m reading your response. It’s kinda like when you’re walking down the street and someone’s talking on their cell phone but you don’t see the phone, you just see and hear the person talking. At first, it’s like, what’s up with this person wallking down the sidewalk having a passionate monologue. Then you realize, oohhhhhhhhh, they’re on the phone.
P.S. Your IMHO has really stuck with me and I love it and think of you whenever I type it!
#150 murphy hey that’s sly puma to you.. lol thanks a lot.
Yeya, she’s about as friendly as a starving female Rottweiler with pups.
163 Anna7000 Awww, lol. ur so sweet. Just the complete opposite of MO. LOL
Trish — can you remind everyone of the link to Puma PAC’s new Youtube channel, and to your inspiring and defiant new video?
I’m afraid to go back into my inbox. (just kidding! i am making my way through the emails, i really am!)
All the above, IMHO. LOL
Oh poor Michellle. Waaahhhh! Fox News misrepresents her. Waaahhhh! Give me a break. If you act like Godzilla, is anyone really going to think you’re Jackie O?
I think we have heard a lot of things that never came true but this time we only have a few more weeks to make a difference.
#118 Lets Get It Started :
I enjoyed reading your write up of your encounter with Sen. Clinton and your brilliant photo collage. Isn’t she amazing ? I too gave her a book “A teaspoon of Courage” and she told her assistant keep it and give it to her later.
Sometimes I feel like with her, it is like the middle Eastern fanatics that say they hate America. If they were given a chance to come here, they would think differently. If the Hillary haters were to talk to her, I know they will change their mind about her. A simpleton that I am, I choose to have faith in mankind.
I may not subscribe to all the angles of focus on the myriad of Obama “issues”, but I’m grateful that Pumas are willing to expend their time (=life), energy (=life), and financial resources, investigating the questions.
If nothing toward results from these investigations, no harm, no foul, and a big thank you to them for their willingness to invest themselves in these examinations.
Here is the video link, over 380 hits so far, since this morning
and again thank you to Amarissa and GoAndersen for helping with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TscHyh6t2Ng
Sandi Puma – I can’t think of any investigative reporter – Geraldo is good, Glen Beck doesn’t do investigative like Geraldo but he is a good one to email … me@glenbeck.com
Post Geraldo’s email in case some other PUMA feel like emailing him. You never know when one might just stick.
Murphy’s audacity video is there as well
twostates #127 — very excellent letter. I like how concisely and calmly laid the blame where it belongs.
Thanks Trish!
Speaking of cancer, i didn’t know Geraldine Ferraro was diagnosed with blood cancer in 2001. Patients have a survival rate of about five years, yet Ms Ferraro is still kicking and slapping SEVEN years later.
Ladies and gentlemen, this lady is a fighter extraordinaire. I’m so proud of her stands against the odds. No wonder she can do it alone better than most.
What a gal.
But talk about Rottweilers~~~Ever since I heard earlier that MO is the keynote speaker on opening night of the convention I’ve been upset and chewing on it like a Rotty on a Mailman’s pantleg.
Typical of Obama, he generally blamed the conservative press, naming FOX, but no individual specifically. He’s such a cowardly fraud.
Just wanted you all know that even while on vacation i have managed to meet three people from pennsylvania who supported hillary, who now know and are excited about puma!
MURPHY HAS BO GOING!
You are not going to believe what I found on Craigslist. BO is making a “documentary”. It is going to be well staged and will probably have scripts (we all know that BO likes scripts)
Link:
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pol/792176086.html
Posting:
Looking for people to be in a documentary about Barack Obama (Arlington/Lexington/Burlington/Wincheste)
I’m looking to do a documentary on why people support Barack Obama, and I was wondering if any Lexington Residents would be interested in being interviewed about why they support Barack Obama as part of the
documentary. It would be great if I could find the following types of people to be interviewed.
-An elderly man
-A teenage girl who is under 18.
-A teenage girl who is over 18 and has voted in a presidential election.
-A child (male or female) under 14 who supports Barack Obama, as do
their parents.
-A man who supports John McCain
-An independent who supports Barack Obama
-Or anyone else who would like to be in my documentary
If you would like to be interviewed, please respond through craigslist.
Please do not respond if you do not live in Lexington, Arlington, Winchester,Watertown, Belmont, or Burlington
#178 murphy
The bo bots are not happy with the you tube group, lol I’ve been counteracting them all day, we’re getting a lot of thumbs down from them lol
I’m not worried Mountainsong. Michelle’s approval ratings aren’t very high these days. I’m betting the response will be merely polite.
I think even the bots are sick of the Obamas at this point.
NewsBusters.org | Exposing Liberal Media Bias
About the organization, commentary, forums, images and links to media sources.
http://newsbusters.org/ – Cached
i’m finding everything else ecept what i am looking for
hey sandipuma…i sent you a second email for news busters site
grrrrrrooowwwwlllll i can not get a e-mail addy for Larry King or Barbara Striesand but i did for Fran Dersur
Headclunker that is amazing! I live right in that EXACT area. I wonder why Carlisle isn’t on the list. We’re right next door. No fair!
Although I notice he didn’t call for any middle-aged women with children. hmmm? what are we, chopped liver? Oh yeah, that’s right I forgot.
That casting call is irredeemably Brilliant!
No women wanted! awesome!
go to the page on Hillary, and scroll down and you will see an article on Puma Pac
great news about the bots trish — keep it up!
Oh Tigress great ty
Oh kool
thanks Murphy – I’m honored.
I deliberately mentioned Tip because she was his protege. And I wanted her to know that some of us remembered.
BTW, we walked past her in front of the Chrysler bldg back in May. She was on her cell and looked stressed. Otherwise, we would have thanked her in person. She’s very petite! Who knew?
BHO is having a problem with FOX and Michelle, I wonder if the Whitie tape is peeking it’s head out again. I heard big $$$$ is being thrown around to get a hold of it.
be back in a minute
127 two states very good letter, I like how you threw in important details there.
How about a Hillary Clinton/Geraldine Ferraro ticket?
OK, now out of my fantasy world–
Here’s the letter that will go out tomorrow morning.
Dear Ms. Ferraro-
Thank you for your strength and courage.
Thank you for your unwavering support of Hillary
Clinton.
Thank you for refusing to overlook rampant sexism.
Thank you for working to rescue our democracy.
Thank you!
MommaE and Ed on their blog radio show will have a guest on to discuss the tape. Also there is something floating around about a Aug 23rd release.
#192 murphy
i’m having fun lol
Hillary Clinton NewsBusters.org
#118 Lets Get It Started
I tried to leave a comment on the site and it went into cyberspace or something. Awesome is the only word that comes to mind and jealous. Jealous not in a mean way, but the opportunity — something I think all of us wish we had 1 tenth of 1 percent of a possible outcome to do. Your site is phenomenal. Thanks for giving and sharing this.
~J
Is anyone still having trouble with their gmail. I must have sent too many emails today….mine comes on for about a second and then flashes off again. It just keeps doing this over and over. LOL
Will Bayh’s Russia G8 Stance Become GOP Fodder?
Dem VP Prospect Closer to McCain than Obama
By TEDDY DAVIS and RIGEL ANDERSON
August 11, 2008
Will Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., support for kicking Russia out of the G8 hurt his chances of being Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., running mate? Will Republicans make a big issue of the vote?
(Michael Conroy/AP Photo)But will Evan Bayh’s vote to kick Russia out of the G8 — something John McCain has proposed that Barack Obama has criticized — become fodder for the McCain campaign?
“Despite what Barack Obama says, John McCain’s strong position on Russia has bipartisan support even from senators reportedly under consideration to be Obama’s VP,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers tells ABC News.
Although Obama and Bayh have different positions on Russia’s G8 membership (not to mention on the initial authorization to use force in Iraq), the Indiana senator and former governor still brings considerable assets to the table: a rare combination of youth and experience, a centrist record, and tremendous popularity in Indiana.
Obama can also tout Bayh’s work on the “3F’s”: fatherhood, fiscal discipline, and fairness for injured vets.
Here is my note sent on a Thank you card to Geraldine Ferraro:
Dear Ms. Ferraro,
I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that you are not alone, and that you are appreciated by many. Hillary Clinton is lucky to have a friend like you. I was totally disgusted with the lack of respect for Hillary during the primary. I admired your show of strength when you stood by her even though it wasn’t the popular thing to do. You will be remembered and God will bless you for your kindness. Thank you.
Regards,
204 hillaryistheone
No problems with my gmail.
I don’t use it for my Prowls though.
Be back someone hit my comp
this email has me so po’ed right about now~ it came from a friend in NC~
Subject: 15 REASONS WHY I AM VOTING DEMOCRATIC!!
1. I’m voting Democrat because I believe the GOVERNMENT will do a better
job of spending the money I earn than I would.
2. I’m voting Democrat because I believe freedom of speech is fine as long
as nobody is offended by it.
3. I’m voting Democrat because I believe when we pull out of Iraq I trust
that the bad guys will stop what they’re doing because they will think we’re good
people.
4. I’m voting Democrat because I believe that people who can’t tell us if
it will rain on Friday, CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away
in ten years and the oceans will rise 100 feet if I don’t start driving a
Prius.
5. I’m voting Democrat because I’m not concerned about the slaughter of
millions of babies In America so long as we don’t execute any murderers
and rapist.
6. I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be
allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give
the rest away to the GOVERNMENT for redistribution as THE
GOVERNMENT sees fit.
7. I’m voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed
elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit
some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.
8. I’m voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don’t
have to hide from us over in the mid-east they won’t come over here attack
us.
9. I’m voting Democrat because I don’t want anyone to have any guns in the
house to fight the terrorists off if they do attack us.
10. I’m voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry
whatever I want and I’ve decided to marry my horse.
11. I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits of 4% on a
gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of
gas at 15% as well as receiving a royalty of 16% on a gallon of oil is OK.
12. I’m voting Democrat because I really believe that it is great that the
citizens of the oil producing countries can drive Mercedes Benz cars and ski in
indoor ski resorts when it is 120 degrees outside using our money.
13. I’m voting Democrat because I cannot support having oil wells off our
shores even though I can’t remember when the last time there was a oil spill from
the off shore rigs even when they were hit by Katrina.
14. I’m voting Democrat because I also support having the ugly windmill farms
scattered across our beautiful country as long as they are not around where
I live.
15. I’m voting Democrat because I believe that their Presidential candidate
is qualified to be the Commander In Chief of our country even though he only
has 143 days of experience as a Senator, even though my children need to
spend more days than that in Kindergarten before they qualify for the 1st
Grade.
Makes you wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn’t it?
*can you believe the stupid reasons listed above?? I had to write her back with a good lashing~ she may never speak to me again after that~ but this was ridiculous!!!
Thanks Dances, I don’t use it all the time, but I did today. I will check it in the morning….no big deal. I had read on here today that someone else was having trouble. At least it was after I sent my prowls
I don’t use gmail as my main email.
Notice that there was no mention of ethnicity either in the call for participants in the XO-friendly documentary. That silence is deafening.
118 Lets Get It Started – what a great story.
SandiPuma???!!!
Did someone hit her computer in mid sentence? Whats up???!!!
#118 Lets Get It Started
She’s an amazing woman and gracious. I’ve met Hillary in the 90′s when President Bill Clinton was running for office; I was one of his volunteers. Hillary loves to talk with people, she ALWAYS listen and always give you her full attention when she talks with you. Hillary is a deep thinker, she’s one of those people (few can do it), can literally remove herself from any situation and look at it like a third to get a better perspective. Hillary Clinton is a consumate policy wonk. She’s the only First Lady with office next to the Oval Office. Those trials and tribulations she had face during the Clinton Administration can kill an elephant in an instant, but she remained strong and resilient. Those tragic events made her much stronger and more determined to do right with the American people. My support for Hillary goes back to the 90′s.
She will always have my support but I will never vote for NONAME/NOBAMA even if she’s in the ticket. I will never allow her to be insulted by NOBAMA. I find it demeaning, disrespectful towards her.
#171 antifish,
Cracking me up here Aunti.
#200 vadaryl when is the show going to be on ?
#199 pamawo good letter, but I really like your fantasy world that would be good too.
oohh-oooh! riverdaughter has her own show on tonight on blogtalk radio, no we wont channel.
Listen live now!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/riverdaughter/2008/08/12/Conflucians-Say
Since everyone in Northern CA received the Hillary t-shirts they ordered over the 4th, I thought I’d receive mine today. Nada. I’m bummed.
#111 Rancho
“ELY . . .I live in SoCal. Did you attend the Aug. 3 meeting? I was out of state for two weeks, and I’m just catching up”
No, I didn’t have a chance to attend, however if you are noy going to Denver, we should get toghether and rally in L.A.
Okay ya’ll no more letters from me tonight. I have writer’s cramp. I hand signed all letters, addressed them by hand, and sent the thank you note all hand written. I didn’t realize how spoiled I was to the computer. LOL
To Jeremy, Freddiebrown, and Vonay
Thank you for the nice comments, I wish everyone would have had the great opportunity I did, in experiencing such a great moment with someone that means so much to us, Hillary Clinton.
Her speech said 36 million democrats voted in this race…but I know once I showed her my picture of the true 18 Million that voted for her, it brought goodness to her heart.
me too dances — I’m totally bummed. I thought it would be waiting for me today!
damn.
#118 Lets Get It Started on 08.11.08 at 9:44 pm My Encounter With Hillary 8-8-08
“For those that knew the “gift” I planned to give Hillary at the campaign event on Friday in Las Vegas.
Please check out the blog to read what happened GEtting lots of good reviews from everyone”
http://amindofmyowncoalition.blogspot.com/
*********************************************
Fellow PUMAs–if you have not gone to this link. Take a minute to do so. This is only one example of the energy this group has. Trish today with her exceptional youTube, the letters of Texassherry, wontbackdown, Anna7000, the monitoring of news programs by determinedinNM and 1gypsy4mc for us who don’t have access—for me anyway–a time to reflect on this. It is a time for celebration. Thanks again Lets Get It Started!
Call in to talk with the Fabulous Riverdaughter now:
(914) 338-1477
she’s the best. Her post tonight is a knock-out as well.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/eeny-meeny-chile-beany-the-spirits-are-about-to-speak/
222 murphy on 08.11.08 at 11:13 pm me too dances — I’m totally bummed. I thought it would be waiting for me today!
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Visualize delivery tomorrow… be specific that the delivery is for a t-shirt though.
Thanks jeremy — and may I add freddiebrown who lit the fire for tonight’s PROWL and did the research, and mamapuma for making sure the Prowl got out.
Literally THOUSANDS of individual political actions taken today by Puma PAC members all around the country.
Truly Amazing.
dwp — no way! I’m visualizing Ralph Fiennes. and that’s final.
New website!
http://pumalatinos.com/
I did not receive an email with Geraldine Ferraro’s address, I would love to write to her thanking her for her courage and strength.
I still LOVE this link and think people should print it out for their talking points. Imagine the expressions when someone asks about experience and accomplishments!
http://www.diversityj.com/HillaryObamaComparison.html
#209 SouthJerseyPUMA did you really sent her a nasty email , because I read it and then reread it I think it was a joke email, really read the things listed I think she was making fun of Democrats or BO.
My letter to Ms. Ferraro:
Dear Ms. Ferraro,
I couldn’t have been more touched after viewing the video clip of your support for Hillary on her web site.
I want to thank you for standing up for Hillary and for standing beside her no matter what the cost. Your support shows that you are a genuine friend and a person of great character.
You have done so much to pave the road before us, and you continue to light the way for all of us to follow. You are a true inspiration and a perfect role model
Please accept my deepest gratitude for all you have done and for all you continue to do.
227 Murphy
LOL!
#225 Dances
I am in the South Bay and received the T-shirt late today.
I truly hope this means yours will be there tomorrow!
Hello Pumas,
I revised my letter to the Swing State Super Delegate and will mail it tomorrow on my Puma letterhead. I am attaching a copy of it.
8/11/08
PUMA Pac
Contact: Murphy@pumapac.org
Dear Swing State Super Delegate,
Senator Clinton won the primary election in your state. Your constituents overwhelmingly chose Senator Clinton over Senator Obama. It is my understanding that you will be casting your delegate vote for Obama at the convention. I strongly oppose Senator Obama receiving delegate votes from a state that Senator Clinton won.
Our votes are sacred. The Founding Fathers created a system of one person, one vote. When an elected representative preempts the judgment of their own voters, trust in our government is broken. More significantly, Senator Clinton is the best Democratic candidate to represent Democrats and win the Presidency. As you know, winning your state is CRUCIAL for the Democrats to regain the White House.
The recent crisis between Russia and Georgia demonstrates why it is crucial to have a Democratic nominee ready to lead. The contrast between Senator McCain and Senator Obama are significant. McCain denounced Russia’s aggression and Obama offered words of appeasement. Senator Obama is unqualified to lead this country. Day after day, Americans are putting their trust in Senator McCain.
The country is eager to elect a Democratic President but that person is Senator Clinton. We need delegates that will stand up to the party bosses and carry the Voice of the Voters to the Convention and VOTE for the candidate who can win it for us in your crucial state in November.
I am a Democrat and a member of Puma PAC, People United Means Action (http://blog.pumapac.org). We are the Voice of the Voters in the Democratic Party and we will do everything we can to stop the party bosses from forcing YOU to select an unprepared and preposterously weak candidate in Denver.
Thank you.
pamawo
thanks for keeping hope alive!
Ralph Fiennes in your Hillary tee? or did I miss something?
185 murphy~~~Well, you’ve been right about everything else so far. Let’s hope you are about this.
got to go down and check out pepsi center. They have 2 huge tents where protest area is supposed to be. I know one was for media because they were complaining about being so close to the protesters. I don’t know what the other is, but looks like it’s going to be blocking the view of pepsi center…not that we can see much anyway..gonna be like looking at ants!!!!
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/eeny-meeny-chile-beany-the-spirits-are-about-to-speak/
southjerseypuma i loved your sense of humor and im sure we all agree with u
id have to be dead and someone holding a pen in my hand for me to vote for bo
listening to the radio show tonight i hope its true that something horrid is about to break on bo although i fell enough is out on him to merit him a trip to the moon to stay. him and that lovely wife of his
well somenights i just have to get it out of me.
ive never despised anyone so much i loved what u said about kids have to be in preschool longer than bo was in senate to qualify for 1st grade.
love to listen to all of you pumas and glad to be on team.
guess ill try to get sleep now i feel better after i vent.
lol
Geez, Barack!!! If ya can’t take the heat, get outta da kitchen!
I dont’t know if somone mention this before, but I hear in FOX that Father Flenigan (the one who made fun of Hillary) goes after Sean Hannity, defending obambi.
So, Hannity asked him to go to HANNITY & COLMES show to tell him in his face.
In the west coast you can see it at 9 PM
LOL
Who’s lilly?
#118 Lets Get It Started Thanks for sharing with us such an inspirational “gift”!! When one does something so beautiful from their heart, it touches the other ones’ heart also.
Hillary in 2008!
#229 TerryDo I didn’t get it yet either so maybe she hasn’t send it out . Or we are just the forgotten ones.lol
CELEBRITIES FOR HILLARY
Eva Longoria
Barbara Streisand
Magic Johnson
America Ferrera
Natalie Portman
Elton John
Jack Nicholson
Ted Danson
Mary Steenburgen
Ellen De Generes
Melanie Griffith
Those are so far the celebrities I know support Hillary.
Wow! Great interview with Geraldine. I’ve got my letter stamped.
Anyone notice how BO needed a redo on his Russo-Georgian response. I guess the first one was too namby-obambi. The WORM rears its ugly head.
# 182 taggles1 – amazing you snared two PUMA’s while on vacation!
# 195 two states – your reference to tip o’neil was so brilliant and surreal – drove home the point of how far the party has drifted.
# 227 murphy – you have great taste!
# 237 trish – loved your follow up to murphy’s visualization!
#246 slyt2
This is what I saw on an earlier comment:
Geraldine Ferraro
575 Park Ave.
NY, NY 10065-7332
I hope this is correct, I did not get an email.
Does this mean we are getting some money? O’Reilly was reading part of the Democratic platform and part of it said they would provide immediate assistance to “those who have lost their way”
I am cracking up here. LOL I wonder who they consider “those who have lost their way” people are? Could it be the ones who are not “falling in line”?
Hey Doria — I forgot about WORM! Love it!
Dear Ms. Ferraro,
Thank you for having the courage to speak the truth about misogyny regarding Hillary Clinton and her run for the presidency.
For eternity and beyond, you will be remembered as the girl who had that courage. You versus the world, and you won.
I wanted to be with you that day, and then I realized I was. We all were, and we will stand with you, beside you, and behind you from now until the end of time.
Heroines are among us, and you and Hillary are at the top of the list. I wait eagerly for more of your truth.
Sincerely,
Jennifer XXX
PUMA
BRB
# 251 middle age female – hysterical post!
murphy, doria or anyone in the know: what does “worm” signify?
224 murphy~~~OMG, that is an absolutely wonderful commentary, Riverdaughter. You have such a great perspective!
#247 ElyLos Angeles madonna said she was a supporter of Hillarys too.
Oh thanks pamawo, I didn’t see that.
ugh
ElyLosAngeles – what’s BRB? (Seems nighttime is when the acroynms really surface. I know they did last night and it was a hoot!)
And, if you’re adding to the celeb list, Howard Stern was also a very vocal supporter of Hillary. (And, NO, I don’t listen to Howard, but I saw his name on a list of supporters very early on in the primary season.)
BRB= be right back
Newsflash!~!! I’m not lost and the only ‘immediate assistance’ you can render to me is to drop out of the race and go run for President of Kenya. Start small, get some expererience and come back when…no never mind. Don’t come back at all. And take your better half with you.
Martha Stewart is also a Hillary supporter. I wrote her a letter a while back and told her about us but never got a response. Oh well.
#241~ thanks for your feedback~ torture me and drag me behind the horse~ never will i even consider it for 1/100000000000000 of a second!
DWP~ i got mine today also~ so it will be there soon~ think tomorrow!!!
You can add the author John Grisham to the celebrity list.
O’Reilly and H Wolfson (?) could not keep a straight face when O’Reilly was reading that. Poor Wolfson could not even defend the DNC for that one.
Hi, Guys!
Take a look at our next President in my blog:
http://womenstate.blogspot.com/
Howard Stern show…now that would be a great one for Murphy to speak on! Can change a lot of minds that have drunk the kool-aid!
you know….maybe we need to write a threating letter to McCain telling him that if they have something on BO…(and im reading that they do) and they dont release it till after the Dem Convention, That some of the Hillary for McCain people just might hold it against them.
I think even John McCain supported Hillary, over this wingnut, Obama.
#255~ worm=edwards…. [plz tell me i'm right! lol]
#259 Anna7000
lol I listen to howard stern when i drive towards Niagara, he’s such a pig but sometimes he;s funny, and i knowpeople don’t like him, but i do believe he’s a very intelligent man
#250 pamawo on 08.11.08 at 11:37 pm #246 slyt2
This is what I saw on an earlier comment:
Geraldine Ferraro
575 Park Ave.
NY, NY 10065-7332
I hope this is correct, I did not get an email.
***********************
MURPHY, could you please verify if this is the right address, because I did not receive an email also, unless the address was included in our prowls and I did not notice it.
Which I have already cleared the four prowls from my emails.
Thanks
wow getting tired of these tracking cookies
anyone have Larry Kings e=mail addy??
Obama: “What is clear is that Russia has invaded Georgia.”
O’Reilly: “No s**t, Sherlock.”
Didn’t Cher say when asked who she supported–”Well Hillary…it’s a no-brainer.”
#247 ElyLosAngeles
Sean Astin campaigned extensively throughout Indiana for Hillary.
Anna
The ombudsman represents us. Let’s face it, the MSM missed the story about Edwards and now they are doing a lot of soul searching about it.
To me this is the time for us to send them letters to vet *61. He is awfully close to becoming the POTUS. I think the timing is right for an investigation of him by the NYT, the WP, the National Enquirer, and so on.
Larry.King.Live3@turner.com
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Larry.King.Live3@turner.com
Did anyone else notice that the way Hillary was dressed at the NV function last Friday seemed odd/different? I have never seen her wear that color during any of the primary season. She always had a much brighter and happier wardrobe when she was campaigning for herself.
#183 Headclunker — we should copy and email that information to McCain’s people — they would have a field day with it!
‘Bad Blood’ Between Obama and Clinton
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_clinton/2008/08/11/120978.html?s=al&promo_code=67AB-1
thank you so much
TOPIC: Celebrities who supported Hillary
ElyLosAngeles: Responding to your earlier post (playing catch-up), here’s a list we compiled about a month ago, maybe time to revisit..?
Ricky Martin
Madonna
Elizabeth Taylor
Kelly Pavlik (middle wieght boxer from OH)
Brittany Mason (Miss Indiana)
Mankiller (former Cherokee Nation Principal Chief, OK)
America Ferrara (Ugly Betty)
Erica Alexander
Jehmu Greene
Melanie Griffith
Peterson Zah (Former First Navaho Chairman and First President of the Navaho Nation, Northern Cheyenne Tribe President (forget his name)
Rob Reiner
Sean Astin
Billie Jean King
LaMafia and The Bolanos Brothers.
Ugly Betty
The WHO
Elvis Costello
Jakob Dylan
Fran Dresher
Jack Nickelson
Ellen Donald Trump (is he really a Democrat..?)
Cramer (Mad Money, whatever that is)
Eva (who is this)
Quincy Jones
Joe Scarborough
Kevin Spacey
Ted Dansen & Mary Stenburger
Carole King
But my personal favorites are Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, who still are big supporters. Whereas some of the above have now defected to O’s camp.
Betting Carole King, Rob Reiner, Jack Nicholson and Ellen are all also still big Hillary supporters.
#253~ Jenni
I knew you would write something extrodinary for Ms. Ferraro…. very well said!
Thanks for the heads up Murphy about riverdaughter this evening. I got to speak with proud military mom. Thanks. It was a great show…
I know McCain is a patriot who loves his country, but what would really show me that he loves this country more than anything would be if he were to release something NOW rather than after the convention…
he must know that *61 is BAD, and there’s still that chance that he could win the GE…you’d think someone who loves this country as much as McCain obviously does would not want to take that chance.
You’d think he’d (McCain) would rather Hillary win if he (McCain) didn’t. Am I making sense?
I agree with the above comment that says McCain probably supported Hillary over *61…
Country BEFORE party Sen. McCain…waiting until after the convention (if the SDs dont do what needs to be done) wouldn’t help the country.
its so frustrating…i know what i mean but its so difficult to put down in words…
EWard – Geez, the media missed the boat on pretty much everything. There’s so much that’s swirling around and it’s hard to tease apart fact from rumor from theory from….. It’s virtually impossible to do as a little person. It’s the media’s job to send investigative reporters to do their job. But the press has shown no interest in doing so all year long. Crazy. Even this issue with Obama’s relationship with Odinga is something so worthy of investigation, but, as usual, nothing. Hard to know why the press would take interest now, but there’s surely no harm in advocating for them to look into various matters.
Anna7000 W.O.R.M. = What Obama Really Meant.
That person in the picture is a PUMA.
No way, PUMAs are for fighting on with patriots like John McCain, we aren’t about wimping out with Kum bay ah liberals and sociaists who support the Obamanation!!
Popping in before I head off to bed. Just wanted to let all Pumas know how much I appreciate all of you.
Clinton Rules – This is politics. People and parties play to win. No way would McCain and the GOP do anything to influence the Democratic nominee such that it would be someone they’d prefer they didn’t go up against. We wouldn’t want or expect Clinton or her campaign to be that naive and I wouldn’t expect McCain or anyone else’s to be so. It’s ruthless. It’s about power.
And, I share your frustration completely. I just don’t think I have the same rationale underpinning how I get to that frustration. But, I join you in feeling that way. It’s hard. Draining. Hang in there.
Ok , Kittens , here’s my letter to Ferraro … Be nice damn it !
Ms. Ferraro ,
I am writing to thank you for your unwavering support and loyalty to Sen. Clinton throughout this entire political process .
Sen. Clinton is the rightful nominee . She is the right choice for our Party . The right choice for our Country , and you have helped to pave her way .
Your undiluted resolve when being confronted by friends , peers , and colleagues who have chosen to ignore even the most basic principles of Democracy has inspired millions of us to seek that same strength in ourselves .
We too have chosen to stand for what we believe in . To call subterfuge and misogyny by name , and to shine our lights on the corrupt practices of a leadership that has failed to adhere to the values of equality and justice that we hold dearly . We are Pumas .
We are a part of a larger group , but in the end , we are one . One woman , one man , one voter , one American , one PERSON who refuses to fall in line , to sit in the back of the bus , or to be herded like cattle to our own destruction . We are one person , and we want what we are guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States , one vote .
I believe that , because of your example , guidance , and tireless pursuit of equality in the Democratic process , we are very close to righting wrongs , to being heard , and ,ultimately , to making history . For these things , and so much more , I Thank You .
Sincerely ,
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Puma Democrat
LETSGETITSTARTED
OMGoodness,
I ~LOVE~ your artwork that you gave our Hillary!!!
You are awesome & I hope to see that beautiful photo up top on this BLOG some morning.
You rock!!
(((You go, girl!!!)))
thanks doria!
the lone protester in the picture above..
why was she there all alone?
I know Anna…just had to get that off my chest.
It’s so hard to believe the convention is almost here!
Is everyone excited!!??!?
Texas Tigress – What’s with the disclaimer at the beginning?!* Fabulous letter!!!! Sign it, seal it and send it off!
It sounds much better if you read it slowly and have a choir of angels singing in the background .
291 sarapuma
“That person in the picture is a PUMA.
No way, PUMAs are for fighting on with patriots like John McCain, we aren’t about wimping out with Kum bay ah liberals and sociaists who support the Obamanation!!”
You throw those labels around mighty handily…
PUMAs are a cross-section of America. No need to disparage any of us.
#175 TrishfromCanada
My pleasure! Video is great!
Sheila7. If you are looking in: You’ve got mail!
291 sarapuma
“That person in the picture is a PUMA.
No way, PUMAs are for fighting on with patriots like John McCain, we aren’t about wimping out with Kum bay ah liberals and sociaists who support the Obamanation!!”
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You throw those labels around mighty handily…
PUMAs are a cross-section of America. No need to disparage any of us.
DancesWithPumas
Kucinich Democrat
Hi Everyone: Once again if you want to E-mail the National Enquirer, the only news org to pay attention to the Edwards story and ask them to print an article on BOs birth Certificate, and a time line on where he lived and when here is the link. At the bottom of this page is a window where you can type your suggestion. This sort of story should sell papers and it would be best if they do it early next week.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/contact/
dances – well said. and, no way? dk was my first choice as well. funny (sort of) story. I was so eager to cast my vote. i got my ballot (i always vote absentee) way ahead of the deadline, as usual. but as the days and weeks passed, i started feeling really compulsive about completing and submitting my ballot, even though i had plenty of time. (i’m neurotic, what can i say?) so, i filled it out and brought it to the town hall and put it in the ballot box. i get home and a few hours after i dropped it off kucinich announced he was withdrawing from the race. i made a million calls to see if there was any way, any way, at all, please tell me there is a way, to see if i could get it back and get a new ballot (like you can when you “soil” a ballot and request a new one – don’t get me started on that expression), but of course there was no way. thankfully, ca went for clinton so at least i can be proud to know the state i live in supported her, but it was still ssssoooooo frustrating. that’ll teach me for being so compulsive (maybe).
Is everyone here? The clock on the blog says 12:10 AM?
I have been gone with my son, please reply if you see me.
#266 Amarissa
Great blog… thanks for sharing it.
I see that we can add Billie Jean King (legendary woman Tennis player) to the list of Hillary supporters.
see you billie jo
hi
#304 Dances , I don’t have a dawg in it , but you are kind to point that out about labels . There was a long time when I wouldn’t comment on here anymore because I kept feeling so much pressure to jump on the Mccain train – so I am grateful for recognizing the importance of our diversity .
Texas Tigress
Hillary Democrat
My letter is ready to go in the mail tomorrow.
#308 freddiebrown
Thank you, glad you like it!
TOPIC: Ferraro letter
coupla quick questions, could somebody answer please, thanks!
1 – I’m wondering if Ferraro’s address is going out w/tomorrow’s prowl
2 – Also wondering if she was on the news recently talking about Hillary or does this go back to her earlier support.
(minor gripe: It’s very hard to read all these posts when you work full-time, commute, & are a single parent. So that’s why I need help catching up).
Thank’s for helping a fellow PUMA. Also, knowing the answer to one of these will help me write a better thank you note.
I’m crazy……….E Coasters time
All of you that are here, I propose a short growl now.
We all send Murphy a short thank you note to lift her spirits and know how much she’s appreciated.
Waddya think PUMAs?
Murphy
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!
Murphy, you have mail…
306 Anna7000
Way.
And I should have know re: you.
PS sandipuma
Not everyone is fighting “for” McCain. If anything, we;re fighting against the corruption of the DNC, and we will not reward their corruption by falling in line behind their selectee.
Our individual strategies, as to how will cast our votes, or not, are respected here.
#313 hillstheone , she was on this morning saying there should be a roll call .
I say good nite to all of you……. eyes are closing.. had a busy day with presurgery tests… etc… Be well , Be wonderful to each other!!!…
GO PUMA’s…….
““We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat and advance.” FDR
#319 bmw60
Sweet Dreams
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Murphy}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Thank you so much for all you are doing! Thanks for the blog so all of us PUMAs have the chance to meet and support Hillary together.
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!
HI BILLIEJO~ DID YOU GET MY EMAIL??
TexasTigress: You’re kidding! What was she on?
I know many others like me are just catching up, so thanks for cluing us in.
i feel so sorry for that poor woman in the picture above.. why didn’t she have other PUMAS with her?
#324 hillstheone , Fox this morning
hillstheone – ferraro’s address is posted in a few places on the blog. i’d be happy to go find it for you if you like?
by the way, hi.
I’m sorry I haven’t been on the blog today nor will I be tomorrow. My son is home from Humboldt for his birthday.
Anything new besides the growls today that I missed? I hope there was no drama.
Hey Pumas,
when I was watching fox this evening I noticed a woman on Named,CLETA MITCHEL. She is an Attorney, specializing in the area of Political Law.Was just thinking, Do ya think if we E-Mailed her about Obama’s BO or citizenship she could help?
contact is: cmitchell@foley.com Was just a thought!!
oh, forgot -
hillstheone – i thought your suggestion to murphy earlier (at least i think it was you who suggested it) was great re: following up with npr or any media to say she’d be available to talk again as the convention gets closer. there are so many posts and murphy is so busy, i hope you sent her an e-mail with that idea.
billie jo – all good. no drama. enjoy time with your son.
Calling creative folk…
Please visit my post and add suggestions, take the ball and run or pass it along.
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23287
Please get other creative PUMAs to this post. It’s definitely a game changer. We don’t know when/if whitey tap exists, COLB and other issues will come to light. But putting a concise, hard hitting narrative together in multiple media forms (viral video, flyers etc etc) could tip the scale in our favor reinforcing the buyers remorse that is building.
I put it as the final nail in Barry’s Nat Sec and Foreign Policy coffin.
It would change the game so much that Hillary could be nominate in a lanslide at the convention… imho.
g’nite. I’ll check back tomorrow to see if there’s been progress.
#328 billlyjo , No drama , except I THANKED DANCES on #310 and she completely blew me off !!! LOL
Anna7000
Thanks for the info.
Yes, I’m madly trying to catch up. And determined to sign off soon as I have a lot to do tonite.
I saw Ferraro’s addy somewhere but didn’t Murphy say she was sending it out again w/the prowl tomorrow, is what I’m wondering, thanks again.
#333 correction – ‘billie jo’ sorry spelled it wrong
re#329..
american citizens can petition any federal court to contest Obamas BC
get some legal counsel a bunch of people together..go to the court and file a suit..go for it!!
Texas Tigress – I doubt she blew you off. I feel confident she’s crafting her post now. First written in hand. Then, edit. Then type as a word document. Review again. Let is sit. Return to it. Make a few changes. Perfect it. THEN, will post it! Not to worry. I can feel it coming down the pike. Be patient.
.SouthJerseyPUMA
Yuppers, I got it at work today but the info is on my computer here, I will email you in a minute.
You just want the address where we are staying or more?
#325 ny puma
if you click on the link up there, it will take you to the blog where her experience was discussed.
if you want to contest obamas BC you better move on it quick before the convention ends
TOPIC: VOTING and TONIGHT’s VOTE
Antifish:
#891 – previous page – “Do they know about him taking the BC down from his site?”
I don’t think so. I think it was invalidresponse who posted the contact info for Nat’l Enquirer.
Antifish: “I hereby nominate Antifish to contact the wonderful and unscrupulous National Enquirer and give them the whole enchilada on the BC question.”
I need a PUMA to second this nomination so that Antifish can accept.
hillstheone – i think (emphasis on “think”) what murphy’s sending out tomorrow related to ferraro is an e-mail address. i think (again, THINK) murphy didn’t want to post it in such a public place as the blog. but i might be confused on that point. if so, i hope others will correct it. meanwhile, i’ll go retrieve (woof, woof) the snail mail address for you if you want.
;D
ANNA7000 , you crack me up ! I was just joking , but now she will have to cross the ^^^^^^^^ prickly foilage to get a response through !!! lol
Anna – that’s OK, I think if we both read it that must be what’s going on. I’ll just write my note!
Many thanks…
p.s. Are you coming to Denver?
The National Enquirer reporter who “busted” Edwards is called ALAN BUTTERFIELD . Perhaps we could interest Mr. Butterfield on some of the things we know about Obama.. As the Inquirer themselves say : it is news when we say it is news.
On this link below you can submit your tips , use the pull down menu :
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/contact/
or call to see if they can transfer you to a reporter.
Email or call:
800-223-6226
hillstheone – here’s the snail mail address for ferraro:
575 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10065-7332
.SouthJerseyPUMA
You’ve got mail.
333 TexasTigress
#328 billlyjo , No drama , except I THANKED DANCES on #310 and she completely blew me off !!! LOL
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Oh christ, please don’t tell me you’re one of those. Okay:
TexasTigress
You’re welcome and I’m glad you feel freer to express who you are.
#258 Anna7000
BeRight Back
I am learning too!!
#338~ more plz~ greenfuns info if she gave permission to share~ address too… hope you have a wonderful time with your son~ tell him PUMA’s wish him a Happy Birthday!!!
Texas Tigress – You’re cracking me up!!!! L&P
(yeah, i knew you were joking, but i couldn’t resist.)
dances – if you’re out there in the ^^^^^^ watch out for the snails and rats this time of night!
i second – antifish ! Lets find this Alan Butterfield at the Enquirer and see if his sniffer is good.
Glad to hear there was no drama today, how did that happen? I guess Nevada never came back?
Did we get any more news on the conference in DC? (Other then what was on blogradio the other night?
just be very careful for obama’s attorneys counter filing a suit for libel and slander
Freddiebrown~ i think you have something~ i like it!!!!!
#346 freddiebrown – I contacted the yesterday with all of the info I have and links . I hope everyone does this . The Edwards thing has given them a legitimacy that could make things happen .
TOPIC: Elton John
Anna – besides today’s prowl, I did also manage to send an email to Sir Elton (John). I love that guy! He does get in “in your face” arguments with people but I guess no one’s perfect. & I’d love to see him in concert someday (along w/a jillion others including Tina Turner).
I told him that I would love to hear him in concert someday, that I was a music lover, former precinct worker and PUMApac member, and that we would be overjoyed if he would speak up now in support of an open rollcall for Hillary. And I cc’d him a copy of my email that I sent to NPR so he would have more talking points, LOL…
I hope that a lot of other PUMA’s wrote to him.
#351 SouthJerseyPUMA
#338~ more plz~ greenfuns info if she gave permission to share~ address too… hope you have a wonderful time with your son~ tell him PUMA’s wish him a Happy Birthday!!!
I’ll send another email with greenfuns email address.
Thanks for the B-day wishes for my son. He has been hearing more about PUMAs and Hillary then he ever wanted to know.
sorry if i’m being thick, but why does anyone think that the national enquirer would be a paper to try to work with on anything. they have zero legitimacy, so any story they print would not only appear questionable, but could hurt our cause precisely because the enquirer printed it. am i missing something here???
#269 MountainSong
I guess so, at least he always treated her with respect.
Like she is: A lady
OOOOOOOOO no she di ent ….. Did Dances just give me the xo ‘one of those ‘ line on #349 ???? I’ll show her
^^^^^^^^^ *******^^^^^^^^ and )))))))) ((((((( , AND >>>>>><<<<<<< Ha !
the national inquirer in order to protect their butts would rat you out in a heartbeat to obamas attorneys and then you will be on the hot seat for a big time libel and slander suit..i would keep away from the natl inquirer
awwww poor kid! give him a (((((((big hug))))))))) for the ear!
hye, does anyone know whatever happened to gogandolf. he/she was so active for a day or so then disappeared.
#310 TexasTigress
Don’t worry Texas, I am not on the McCain bandwagon either, and don’t watch faux news. I am a black sheep among PUMAs, a black PUMA is pretty darn cute at that. We can be the far left wing of the PUMA den. Wanna join me?
Anna – Thanks for the addy!
Freddybrown: Thanks for seconding the motion.
Antifish, you are hereby elected by fellow PUMAS to penetrate the unearthly alliance of the Nat’l Enquirer and tell them everything you know about the BC issue. We ask this of you so that the story can be broken open (if it is indeed a valid story) before the Convention!
Yes this is a tough task. But, in exchange for doing this, the fishes of the universe will evermore part when you pull up behind them in traffic! Or surrender their parking spaces to you, LOL..
After you tell NE’s people everything they need toknow about the BC issue, we ask (read: beg) you to come back here & tell us what they said!!
#355 ny puma on 08.12.08 at 12:36 am
just be very careful for obama’s attorneys counter filing a suit for libel and slander
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NY Puma – should we be scared now ? A celebrity Messiah Presidential Golden Boy’s attorney suing Jane /John Doe private citizen. It will make great publicity for “Don’t touch the golden boy”. So what will they take from me. Garnish my pay ?
TOPIC: National Enquirer
(sorry – forgot to put this w/my last post, above, oops)!
billie jo – can i join too? (as my husband has said: I always wanted the party to move farther to the left. I just didn’t anticipate how Stalanist it could become in the process.)
#363~ if everything was thought on that line, we would be nowhere in this fight~
just my 2cents… if they acted on it, and investigated it, why would that come back on one who suggested it?
#365 Anna7000 on 08.12.08 at 12:43 am
hye, does anyone know whatever happened to gogandolf. he/she was so active for a day or so then disappeared.
Gandolf always disappears for awhile. He is just living up to his great name.
#360 anna , actually , The E has been given credit as being the ONLY news agency to follow up on the Edwards case . The reporters have been all over the msm the last few days explaining the details , and the major networks have been scrambling to justify why they didn’t investigate the story . Any other time i would agree with you 100% but right now , they have the ball in their court – besides , it’s not like the msm can be viewed as being unbiased right now ….
Another HRC Delegate having status threatened:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17163668/detail.html
Colorado Democrats Threaten Delegate’s Status
#329 tillerylakelady on 08.12.08 at 12:26 am
Hey Pumas,
when I was watching fox this evening I noticed a woman on Named,CLETA MITCHEL. She is an Attorney, specializing in the area of Political Law.Was just thinking, Do ya think if we E-Mailed her about Obama’s BO or citizenship she could help?
contact is: cmitchell@foley.com Was just a thought!!
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Well, lets ask Cleta if she would take the job and who she is voting for – not necessarily in that order. I will email her tonight.
#370 Anna7000 on 08.12.08 at 12:45 am
billie jo – can i join too? (as my husband has said: I always wanted the party to move farther to the left. I just didn’t anticipate how Stalanist it could become in the process.)
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Of course, now we have 3 black PUMAs! We have grown from 1 to 3 in just 2 minutes. It would be quicker but I have to refresh so many flippin’ times to post.
Can we sue them for literary fraud???
“Obama Signs Book Deal
Three Rivers Press, a paperback imprint of Crown Publishing, will publish Sen. Barack Obama’s latest book, “Change We Can Believe In: Barack Obama’s Plan to Renew America’s Promise.”
Crown, a division of Random House Inc., itself a unit of Bertelsmann AG, also published Mr. Obama’s “Dreams From My Father” and “The Audacity of Hope.” According to the presidential candidate’s literary representative, Washington attorney Robert Barnett, the contract is between Crown and the senator’s campaign, not Mr. Obama himself.”
billie jo – thanks for the scoop on gogandolf.
texas tigress – i agree the msm is utterly biased, but it doesn’t mean i can trust the national enquirer or any other news outlet, either. sorry, i’m a very skeptical person. makes life tough sometimes.
NY PUMA
Not sure if you’re addressing my post to anti.
I know what you’re saying but the National Enquirer is sued all the time, that’s part of the reason msm didn’t jump on their story right away.
My point being, we don’t want to get sued, we just want someone else (like a pseudo-reporter or real reporter since the NE apparently does have real reporters) to go sniff out the facts.
You can submit news tips or ideas on their website, that’s what it’s there for.
Well the last letter is done unless you can think of another anchor or investigating reporter .
Can anyone point me to a post with a short and sweet note to Geraldine? I am so tired I can’t come up with anything meaningful. Thanks.
I wrote them yesterday and did it quite tactfully
TexasTigress: I do agree with you that the msm probably feels & definitely looks very foolish right now that the NE had to break the Edwards story..
On the other hand these are the kinds of newsstories I hate because they detract from other stories I feel are more important to the average American.
With regards to media in general, I’m so proud of our PUMA movement, & the effect it is having on msm these days. I think our roar is starting to be heard, finally.
Convention 2 weeks away: Good Timing ? ? ! ! !
First: I also second the motion on the Enquirer and Antifish! The Enquirer now is very popular and credible with the Edwards affair and we should take advantage of this fact.
Second: If this is true, even if O is the official nominee at the Convention (God forbid), he would be taken down and Hillary would go up as nominee.
Third: If, God forbid, he wins the elections and Hillary is the VP (I think he has no choice but to nominate her), he would be impeached and Hillary would be President.
What I mean is, no matter how long the investigation takes, we have good probabilities to suceed at the end!
pa dem – thanks for posting that link. my god. this is starting to feel like black listing. it just gets crazier and crazier, no?
# 376 billie jo – do you have to be black to be in your group, cause i’m as white as they get. any whiter and i’d be clear. i’m a prime candidate for skin cancer. i have photos of myself as a child in the beach town where i grew up at the beach, under an umbrella, wearing layers of lightweight summer clothes. i wondered then, why even bother? sheesh.
#374 thanks padem~
she must have wrote a bot!!! that is such BS!!!!!!!!!! and makes me so mad!! i know the supers must have been threathened from the get go in some way! GROWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BillieJo:
How about
I would just like to take a minute of your time to thank you for being such an outspoken, gracious and articulate speaker on behalf of women and on behalf of Senator Clinton.
Then just say “I’ll never forget how you stood up for Hillary during the primaries and wish you continued success” etc..
#374 padem – Oh HELL NO ! We have to do something about this !!!!! I am soooo flippin mad right now ! Murphy has to see this if she hasn’t already .
Be sure to thank Geraldine for all she has done for us as well as Senator Clinton. Let her know how you respect her for her strenth and standing up for her freedom of speech nice things like that also let her know you are a Puma for Hillary hope that helps. Make it personal
If I can’t vote for teh winner of the Democratic primaries, Senator Clinton, then I will wait and see which way my state is leaning.
If it’s a close election, I’ll vote for McCain to stop Obama, if not, I’ll cast for Cynthia McKinney.
Either way, I will be voting my values.
Amarissa: good points, all, as usual!
#305 Seattlegirl
Completed prowl to Nat. E.
#373 Texas Tigress
Well said!
CELEBRITIES FOR HILLARY
Eva Longoria
Barbara Streisand
Magic Johnson
America Ferrera
Natalie Portman
Elton John
Jack Nicholson
Ted Danson
Mary Steenburgen
Ellen De Generes
Melanie Griffith
Ricky Martin
Madonna
Elizabeth Taylor
Kelly Pavlik (middle wieght boxer from OH)
Brittany Mason (Miss Indiana)
Mankiller (former Cherokee Nation Principal Chief, OK)
Martha Stewart
Erica Alexander
Jehmu Greene
Howard Stern
Peterson Zah (Former First Navaho Chairman and First President of the Navaho Nation, Northern Cheyenne Tribe President (forget his name)
Rob Reiner
Sean Astin
Billie Jean King
LaMafia and The Bolanos Brothers.
The WHO
Elvis Costello
Jakob Dylan
Fran Dresher
Donald Trump
Cramer (Mad Money, whatever that is)
Quincy Jones
Joe Scarborough
Kevin Spacey
Carole King
UPDATED
Thank You, Hillsteone
Billie Jo – You’re welcome to use my note as a template. There are a lot of other really terrific ones on this thread, but good luck scrolling through searching for them if you want more choices:
I want to thank you for your ardent support of Senator Clinton. Your voice has been a beacon of sanity amidst what has become a shameful Democratic Party process that has left me in a state of shock and disbelief.
Thank you for having the integrity and vision to stand by your convictions. Thank you for being willing to speak truth to power. Thank you for your abiding support of Senator Clinton and women everywhere, be they running for the highest office in the land or trying to get a minimum wage job.
Your voice continues to cut through the madness and represents so honestly and so eloquently what so many of us are fighting for.
Geraldine has a heart and is a lot like Hillary so kind of express yourself like you would to a sister with a lot of respect
Anna/SJPUMA/TexasTigress: What ticks me off is they are claiming she said things in “public” when it was a *private* email.
Another HRC Delegate having status threatened:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17163668/detail.html
Colorado Democrats Threaten Delegate’s Status
#378 Anna7000 on 08.12.08 at 12:48 am
billie jo – thanks for the scoop on gogandolf.
Oh Anna, sorry I didn’t mean to hoodwink you, I really don’t know where gandolf is, I was just teasing about his name because I like the character in the LOTR. Sorry.
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# 376 billie jo – do you have to be black to be in your group, cause i’m as white as they get. any whiter and i’d be clear.
I’m white as a human too, but I like black animals so you can be a clear PUMA and I will be the black one. Diversity in our left wing.
BillieJo, Tigress, Anna7000, Dances, freddiebrown, Amarissa, et AL – nite nite, I need to sign off.
WOW!
(((Together we are achieving so much)))
Whoo-hoo!! ((( Murphy thanks again for your great radio intvw this morning ))) !!!
I think we are all going to sleep well tonite.
i live in NY the libel and slander capitol of the universe..
you don’t go around spreading innuendos or unsubstantiated rumors about a major candidate for political office …a libel and slander judgement made against you could ruin your life..
all I am saying is to be extremely careful with the natl inquirer sponsoring this BC matter unless you have some substantial proof other wise you’re setting yourself up for a huge fall..
and believe me the cowardly natl inquirer will give obamas attorneys the names and addresses of the accusers
#376~ BillieJo~ since i have always been the blacksheep of the family, would that be enough to be considered a black puma??
#394 Anna7000
Thanks Anna, I will do the super short version of you letter. I am too tired to think let alone search though all of todays blog.
Thanks.
dances – i have the same strategy. though, i must say i’m a little nervous about it this year just because of the way things have been going. but, i think you and i live in the same state and the chances of it going for mc cain are pretty slim, wouldn’t you think. so, that will give us the freedom to register our voice in a different way. i’ve thought how it would really be a drag to live in a state that wouldn’t afford me that much flexibility.
#397 Billie jo , ” Diversity in our left wing.” I hope so because I am a gay gal puma , but I am white as well , so with out me , you two are just 2 whities and not really diverse at all !!! LOl
I wrote the cancer womens hospital in New Youk and sent a letter to Fran Dresher i hope she gets it. She and Hillary worked together there and are close
ELY: Since you’re in L.A., land of the stars, I’m nominating ~you~ to be PUMA’s new Celebrity Outreach Coordinator!
Your task would be to prowl the streets of Santa Monica, Melrose, Hollywood and Sunset in search of phone numbers, website addresses and snail mail addies.
Q – Do I hear a second?? LOL…
#396 pa dem… Can you believe that?
Who do these people think they are ??? I can’t believe this crap??? They have lost their minds and really believe they are rulers – dictators instead of public hires of the people!
billie jo – you’ve hoodwinked me left and right tonight. if this is how well you can hoodwink when you’re tired, i wouldn’t want to mess with you when you alert and rested.
speaking of which, good night all.
Anna, if hell breaks loose and xo wins , Texas is seceding and we are changing our name to Pumaland !
ops New York
sandipuma: good job on writing to Fran!
ok, nite-nite for real now.
400 SouthJerseyPUMA on 08.12.08 at 12:58 am
#376~ BillieJo~ since i have always been the blacksheep of the family, would that be enough to be considered a black puma??
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Gee, I don’t know. One criteria is that you do not like McCain to be an extreme left wing black or clear PUMA. Do you qualify?
I Second ELY… to be Celebrity Outreach Coordinator
402 Anna7000
Granted.
I still might vote for McCain, just to register my disgust with the DP. Then again, I might not vote for either to register my disgust with unenlightened patriarchal men, or androids, as I tend to refer to them.
Now i do believe if we could get a hold of Jack Nicholson he would help us. Hes a awesome man and loves the women lol
#405 hillstheone
Where are you?
Because you know very well L.A. and vecinities
hi freddiebrown you are great
YAY, freddie!
haha, you knew I couldn’t go to bed w/out seeing if someone would second my vote, LOL…
so now Murphy’s been on NPR today and made us all so proud, we have a BC expert & a celebrity outreach coordinator, too. i will sleep good tonite…
dances – caught your response before shutting down. yup. thought of that as well. if mc cain got a lot more votes than anyone would expect from our state it would send a message. but then, doubt the dnc would care much. and then there’s the whole, geez, can i really bring myself to vote for mc cain. i think there’s a lot of idealizing about him right now for obvious reasons, but truly, he represents ideals and values that are significantly out of line with my own. i figure i’ll just cross that bridge when i get to it.
hope your t-shirt arrives tomorrow!
I can’t post, so am going to be.
Sweet dreams PUMAS
Ely: I’m in Oregon but have family in La-La land…
say hello to the LaBrea tarpits for me, LOL…
There is a lot to like about LA esp. the great mexican food & the concerts under the stars at the H.Bowl.
OK, I really am signing off now…everyone here, you are The Best.
Bed, sorry…………..tired.
So what does Larry Johnson know that is so explosive?
Anna7000
Same here re: McCain… “he represents ideals and values that are significantly out of line with my own.”
Same here, but the Democrats have turned this into a nightmarish game… I can play dirty as well.
Goodnight all
dances – you? play dirty? i never would have guessed.
Fred – do you still have any flyers left? I am going to Annapolis next Weds and sould be able to hand a bunch out at the hospital, etc. If so, please e-mail me.
wjl puma at g mail
i like him better than #61…. sniff sniff…… i guess i do like him…. [leaving with tail between my legs]
#412 freddiebrown
I’ll try my best
Hillsteone
I would love if Jack Nicholson gets involved with us.
Also America Ferrera campaigned for Hillary in many states .
I am leaving now, because I have problems posting.
GOOD NIGHT ALL
Be good
Ok I know this is crude and we should be nice pumas but this was posted by Michael at the Confluence and I have been LMO for the last 10 mins. Hey a good laugh is healthy!
“DNC new offer to raise some cash for a $ 50.00 donation for you can get a Nancy Pelosiautographed pink princess phone circa 1981 your choice of rotary dial or touch tone! hurry while supplies last these are expected to go as fast as the DR Howard Dean self enema kits and the Donna Brazile home bikini wax sets!”
Good night sweet Pumas – be safe and be well .
You guys are a funny bunch… it is still early here on the Wild West Coast…
Backers want Clinton nominated at convention.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/11/MN8D128VO8.DTL&feed=rss.news
nite Texas~ ditto…
saturday on fox mc cain and #61 face off at 8pm~
Hi Greenfun~ hows your nite going? love the post!!!
More celebrities for Hillary:
Carl Reiner
Fran Drescher
Harvey Weinstein (head of Miramax)
Whoopi Goldberg
The Democratic Party | Community Blogs | SPIRITED DONA’s Blog: Fran Dresher, Fighting For Democrats & Cancer … Fran Dresher, Fighting For Democrats & Cancer Survivors on Larry King, Feb 29th,08 Friday … Platform Positive | Political Humor | Protect A Women’s …
#429
Haha a good laugh is needed from time to time…reminds me when someone said they hope Ms. Brazile doesn’t pull of a Janet Jackson during half time at the mile high stadium lol
freddiebrown, are they the same posters as before? the very colorful one you did? i need more also~ wondering if maybe different ones?
billiejo..look at anna’s #70
Analysis of Oprah’s endorsement of obama translated into actual numbers:
http://tinyurl.com/5p6y2v
New York Times business section
#439 SouthJerseyPUMA
Yes, they are the same posters – have a bit left if you still want some. Don’t have time to make another one yet. However I hear Dances Puma has designed a couple. I think you have to email her to get it. She didn’t get back to me, perhaps I got her email wrong.
#423 DanceswithPumas
Puma Pac and other JustSayNoDeal groups exist because of the political tricks of the DP. The party thought we would all fall in line.
It wasn’t McCain or the Republicans that jilted their own voters. I would have no problem voting for the MAC.
Fran Drescher Interview
fran drescher image Fran Drescher Interview by Chet Cooper and Gillian Friedman, MD.
Throughout history, passion has lead people to do remarkable things and …
http://www.abilitymagazine.com/Fran-Drescher.html – Cached
I am trying to find the link i found earlier with her at the Hospital where she volunteers
Its the same one Hillary volunteers at. Oh well i sent a letter and asked if they could forward this letter onto her
America Ferrera of Ugly Betty – followed the Clinton campaign and did a documentary on her experience.
freddiebrown where are you on the west??
Geraldine Ferraro stood up for Hillary, yes, but no more so than all of you have.
I think Ms. Harriett Christian became a celbrity in her own right.
Hi SouthJerseyPUMA
Worked late today, trying to catch up before calling it a night.
Forecast in Denver today 90 degrees.
175 degrees in Denver for BO if we have it our way.
freddie dances’s poster is in the action center to be downloaded. it’s listed as posterw.jpeg (Don’t believe the hype)
#451
hi greenfun~ i sent you email just now….
Freddiebrn~ yes I have it thank you! printed from action center and will make some tomorrow… thank you!!! hope you are having a nice nite in cali~
The ‘gloves’ will definitely be coming off after the convention.
SandiPuma – I am in San Diego. I find it so hard to do my reglar work. This is crazy. Usually, I have dinner and back to work. But I am on all night, reading up stuff and blogging. This must stop or I will be in the poor house. I need to allocate 1 hour max per day at Puma.
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Terry – i will look for Dancers poster again. Thanks !
Freddiebrown
I can send that poster to you via email if you like.
I know, I said goodnight earlier, but decided to check in after working on a project and catching up with correspondence.
Goodnite PUMA’s~ i cant sit long… xrays tomorrow to check my spine on scoliosis and slip the other day…
You all amaze me so much in how dedicated you all are! I know Murphy is proud of everyone here and how hard you all work!!! keep up the great job!!! (((((big hug)))))
goodnight~
Good night, Miss Anna, and everyone else. Sweet dreams and God bless you all with all good thing in this gift called ‘life’.
Good luck tomorrow, southjersey
FRED
As it turns out, I have your email address (the gmail one) and have just now sent along the “hype” poster.
Okay… I’m going to bed now…fer real.
Fran Drescher
9336 West Washington Blvd
Culver City, CA
90232
Fran Drescher Personal Email
N/A
Ok everyone i will write her a personal letter because the one i e-mailed to the hospital may not get to her. What all would you like me to ask her???
I would like to ask her to come and march with us
Dances – thank you for sending the flyer. But it is only 11 pm … and you’re off ? See you tomorrow then. Gnite
freddiebrown slow down and take care of business. One hour a day is enough. I am on here 10 hours a day and when i don’t have a doctor app i am on 12 hours a day so keep your business up as thats important it’s your life
ok what all do you want me to say to Fran?????
I am writing a personal letter to her now and will mail it tomorrow
Night reading
What will Clinton say? Party awaits her words
Globe and Mail Update
August 11, 2008 at 9:45 PM EDT
Hillary Clinton supporters cried foul during the seemingly never-ending primaries this spring when several talking heads compared the candidate to the obsessed, unkillable character played by Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
Her campaign may now be long dead, but Ms. Clinton continues to haunt the Democratic Party and its presumptive presidential candidate, Barack Obama, and many wonder whether she will use the approaching convention in Denver to boost or to undermine her former opponent.
Both Ms. Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, have been given headline speaking roles at the Democratic National Convention in two weeks.
Ms. Clinton will speak on Aug. 26, the 88th anniversary of the women’s right to vote, and Mr. Clinton is expected to speak the following night, the same evening as the as-yet-unnamed vice-presidential nominee.
The announcement of the couple’s high-profile convention roles came from the Obama camp over the weekend, before an article in the September issue of The Atlantic, released Tuesday, offered new revelations about Clinton campaign strategies against Mr. Obama during the primaries.
The piece, called “The Front-Runner’s Fall” by senior editor Joshua Green, contains various leaked campaign e-mails from Clinton strategist Mark Penn suggesting that Mr. Obama be painted as un-American.
“I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values,” Mr. Penn wrote in one message.
“Every speech should contain the line you were born in the middle of America to the middle class in the middle of the last century. And talk about the basic bargain as about the deeply American values you grew up with, learned as a child and that drive you today,” he said in another.
The tactic was not adopted by Ms. Clinton, but the article is likely to stir up some of the intense animosity that exists between the two campaigns and their supporters.
Some observers also worry that the New York senator may use her convention role to advance her own agenda, rather than to articulate her support for Mr. Obama.
“The presidential candidate would obviously like her to say, ‘This is just the greatest person in the world and I’ve seen the error of my ways and you should vote for him,’ ” said Gerald Pomper, a professor emeritus of political science at Rutgers University. “But the other candidate may have other motives and sour feelings.”
Mr. Pomper, the author of seven books about presidential elections including one about party conventions called Nominating the President, said that political party A-listers are historically given prominent roles at conventions, but can often serve as an undermining presence.
In 1964, Bobby Kennedy appeared at the Democratic convention in support of nominee Lyndon Johnson, and then proceeded to blow him out of the water with a tribute to his late brother, John. F. Kennedy.
In 1980, Ted Kennedy withdrew his name from nomination but then delivered a speech that made only one fleeting reference to the victorious candidate, Jimmy Carter.
Mr. Pomper believes that Ms. Clinton has little to gain from being ungracious, and that her husband is more likely to use the convention pulpit to settle old scores.
“With Bill, we don’t ever know what he’s going to do. And he feels more attacked and unfairly treated than she does,” he said.
Mr. Clinton is expected to address the convention on a day dedicated to national security, which has been given the theme “Securing America’s Future.”
Some expect the former president to instead protest against the characterization of his controversial role in his wife’s campaign, and try to salvage her political future.
“The worst thing he could say is that you’re nominating the wrong person and that we’ll be back in four years,” Mr. Pomper said.
But not everyone wants to wait four years.
Whether Ms. Clinton will be a disruptive a presence at the convention also depends on whether she submits her name for a role-call vote on the nomination, a process that would allow her supporters to vote for her before, presumably, rallying around Mr. Obama.
Some Clinton backers have formed an organization called the Denver Group, which is pushing for such a vote. The group took out an ad in the Chicago Tribune yesterday threatening a “genuine revolt of more than 18 million voters” if Ms. Clinton’s name is not placed in nomination at the convention.
hilligan you still there?? i feel like i was talking to myself lol
Sandi #469
Yes, Sandi, I’m still here. Its 11:30 PDT and I’m just wide-eyed. See that you’ve been busy tonight with lists and references to investigative reporters. Bill Moyer is another one that I didn’t see on the list. We talked about him last night.
Murphy,
Letter is ready to mail to Geraldine.
PUMAS
Didn’t hear much about the DNC Platform committe, however, I knew they were on C-Span a lot last week. I was painting a house (still am) so I missed a lot. Found an article written this weekend that summed the meeting up.
From the Los Angeles Times
Obama partisans block Clinton faction bid to end caucuses
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
8:55 PM CDT, August 9, 2008
PITTSBURGH – Hillary Rodham Clinton loyalists tried Saturday to kill off the caucus system that proved so damaging to her presidential bid, but were beaten back by a Democratic Party leadership firmly under the command of Barack Obama.
Democrats who supported Clinton’s candidacy pushed to amend the new party platform so that caucuses would be banned in future presidential nominating contests.
But the party’s platform committee refused to allow the amendment to come up for a vote or even a discussion. Co-chair Patricia Madrid, a former New Mexico attorney general, said the matter would instead be taken up at later date by the party’s Rules Committee.
That left Clinton supporters disappointed. They contend that if the party were serious about enfranchising more voters, it would take a clear position against a caucus system that discourages participation by shift workers, the disabled and overseas members of the military. In traditional primaries, people have all day to vote. But a caucus might last just a few hours.
During the Democratic race, Obama outmaneuvered Clinton in Iowa and many other states that held caucuses, turning out far more supporters and racking up enough delegates to give him an insurmountable lead.
“My feeling is the issue should have been aired and people should have had the opportunity to speak and vote it up or down,” Bob Remer, a delegate for Clinton from Chicago and member of the platform committee, said in an interview Saturday. Remer had put forward the amendment that was shelved. “The caucus system is the exact opposite of everything I’ve been fighting for in terms of maximizing democratic input.”
The 186-member committee voted to recommend adoption of a new Democratic platform — the party’s formal statement of policies and principles. Final approval will come when the party’s presidential convention meets in Denver on Aug. 25-28.
Clinton supporters were hoping to influence the draft in ways that reflect her interests. For its own sake, the Obama campaign would like to accommodate the Clinton forces where it can. With Republican John McCain keeping the general election contest close, Obama needs to unify Clinton voters behind his cause.
So the platform is a mixed bag. In a section devoted to expanding opportunity for women, the document says that Democrats are proud “that we have put 18 million cracks in the highest glass ceiling,” a respectful reference to Clinton’s vote total in the primary.
But Obama, now in control of the Democratic Party machinery, clearly enjoys the greatest influence over the document. The platform reflects many of his policy goals and even borrows language from his stump speech. “Our planet is in peril,” reads the preamble.
(Optional add end)
One of the defining policy differences he had with Clinton involved health care. Clinton wanted a requirement that people carry health insurance; Obama did not.
The platform includes no mention of a health insurance mandate. But as a concession to Clinton supporters, it does include language that acknowledges, “There are different approaches within the Democratic Party about how best to achieve the commitment of universal coverage.”
Platform committee leaders insisted that Clinton was given a role in shaping the document. At some point, party officials will decide the future of the caucus system. But a paragraph in the platform is not the best way to settle the matter, they said.
Tensions between the Obama and Clinton forces were evident at the Convention Center here, where the meeting took place. Clinton’s supporters sat together in the audience, wearing campaign buttons and T-shirts bearing her name. When Obama’s name was mentioned, one person hissed.
Among the Democratic activists serving on the committee, there were also signs of a split.
Lynn Forester de Rothschild, the head of a private holding company and a member of the committee, took the microphone after the caucus amendment was defeated to register a protest.
After the meeting, she said she still hasn’t made up her mind about whether to vote for Obama because she doesn’t “understand how a person comes to the U.S. Senate and — before they’ve done one thing there — decides they can be president.”
“I have serious questions about Barack Obama and what the Democratic Party is doing,” she said. “I have serious issues with Barack Obama.”
AP-NY-08-09-08 2059EDT
Ok well i will write the letter and i will know what to say. We want Fran Drescher to come to the march in Denver with us and for the womens right to vote 88th aniversary
yes but no one seemed to notice all the work i was doing
I am writing a letter to Fran Drescher and was asking everyone what they wanted me to put in it.
Sandi
I know that PUMAS on the west coast have occasionally asked that something be done to accommodate the many of us that are on the far reaches of the time zone. Understandably, Murphy and a majority of PUMAs need to sleep. When we west coasters get on after a full day of work, etc., a lot of the prowls have been completed or are old news. Lots of times, its too late by our time zone to follow through with prowls that are time sensitive. I do wish we had a coordinator by time zones (mountain/pacific would be good) just for those prowls and important information. I know, it means someone taking it on and coordinating with Murphy. And by most accounts, this entry will probably not be read by many people. I know where you are so I really am proud of you for your determination to be on the blog most of the time especially with the medical issues. Take care of yourself.
Sandi
Have you spoken with the Denver group or the PUMA Denver organizing people about the invite? E-mail Murphy or blog on the Denver action link. Your idea sounds wonderful. It would be so good to have some of those hollywood stars join PUMA in parades. It never hurts to ask. What’s the worst that can happen (they say no)? At least someone is trying. Keep it up, girl.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Oh, its quiet out here. I’ve never talked to myself before.
Apparently McCain’s ad about Obama being a celebrity has hit a sore note on Obama… here’s an article on it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080812/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_ads;_ylt=AgZ8antdm41UixFjA4ImcGBh24cA
But what really cracks me up is Obama’s attempt to do his ad as an answer to the celebrity thing… and he tries to portray McCain as a celebrity and shallow. Not only does this ad fail miserably but it was cracking me up at such a stupid attempt:
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=tBPZyXvEw6M&rel=1
Not really
Sorry i was sending mail to Murphy
hallagan i know the feeling lol
SandiPuma does work very hard.. Here I am nodding off on my keyboard when i am supposed to be working..
I never stop once i get going lol and i go every where through the web
freddiebrown i sent you a e-mail
when i was young my parents called me the detective
Freddie
It must be really hard to work the late shift. I’ve only had a job once or twice where I had to work until midnight. Of course, being a mother I was up all night a lot, but that’s a little different.
no poor freddie needs rest and getting behind bless her heart
474 I agree with you completely
I’m going to bed soon as i have a doctor appointment at 10 and they want me there at 9:30 .But when i get home i will stay on this thing untill 2 a.m
#478 mzebest
I find it hillarious that O is offended by McCain’s ads on his “celebrity” status. Why then does O persist to have “celebrity” events such as the stadium appearance at the upcoming convention in Denver?
I don’t mind i have a family i have all you pumas and i love you all
Sandi
You’d better get to bed. 9:30 comes early especially since it’s midnight already.
halligan so true you are right on the head
#488 Lets
Where are you in the west?
This is an “unusually” quiet night. A lot of PUMAs must be worn out and found a good tree limb to sleep in.
#490 halligan
LOL! hehehehe…
Well… that’s what happens when you come face to face with the truth but don’t want to truly face it… it hits a note with a person known as a sore spot. I think it’s so funny that McCain got such a successful ad going… and even funnier is Obama’s ad response. He has Obama playing defense… so busy defending himself that he has no time to think about strategies to reverse it.
well i need to get up by 7 to shower then i need to get ready then make 2 phone calls and take my meds lol.no actually 3 phone calls…. well i tried to get Jack Nicholsons address but couldn’t find it but i will look tomorrow some more at least i got Frans lol
well this old puma will hit the hay now as i’m to tired to climb a tree nite ((( Pumas)))
I don’t know about anyone else… but the last few nights… I keep getting these really strong intuition feelings that Obama’s in bigger trouble than we realize. Almost like I can tune into this panic feeling within him… and at the same time I feel this extremely positive thing going on for Hillary. Don’t know if that sounds crazy — or just wishful thinking more than intuition — or what?
i’m in Las Vegas niters
This is exactly how I feel when I defend Hillary from attacks on digg dot com.
Good night… I need to call it a night and get some sleep myself.
PUMA (the cat) reminds me of a story, a good bedtime story.
Once upon a time, my mother was taking my sister to the school bus stop a mile from the house. They walked through a deep, dark forest near Mt. Rainier in WA State. It was early in the morning with the sun’s rays filtering through the forest canopy. A high screech sounded through the forest tops overhead as they crunched through the fall leaves and needles. After two days of hearing this noise, my father with rifle in hand, followed my mother and sister through the forest. Hearing the screech again, my father looked skyward. On a limb high above was perched a mountain lion (PUMA), crying in the wilderness. He waved my mother and sister to quickly return to the house and he raised his gun to shoot not at the PUMA, but into the trees above to scare it away. My dad never could kill an animal. The next day, the US Forest Service Ranger came with some bounty hunters and found the PUMA on the same limb, same time of day. Yes, the PUMA was killed. They said that the PUMA would probably have attacked sooner or later because he or she was old and hungry (lean). Now, this is a story told by my parents and sister. Today, there lays a camping park below the limbs of that forest. There is no house, nor any hunters, but there still can be found a screech early in the morning somewhere in the forest that still covers the area. Maybe its the call of the PUMA that lays in wait.
#495 halligan – I work for myself and it used to be all about me and my business – 24/7 I don’t know what happened. I used to be so disciplined, no personal stuff during work hours – now it is way out of hand.
Goodnight mzebest and sandipuma!
#504 Freddie
It’s call the mystism of the PUMA.
Somewhere in the world, the sun is raising and people are stretching before they start a day in the fields, in the busy cities, or trying to scale a mountain peak. But we sit here in the dark, listening to the quiet around us, wishing for a new day of bees buzzing, waves lapping, and wind flowing through tall grasses. Ahhh, that is the coolness of a morning full of life.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Whiskers twitching! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Halligan – you need some rest !
How can you tell, freddie?
I’m not drooling on the keyboard.
More reading for early rising PUMAS:
3 Obama-bashing titles sell well
by Hillel Italie
Aug. 12, 2008 12:00 AM
Associated Press
NEW YORK – Going negative against Democrat Barack Obama isn’t just a campaign strategy for Republican John McCain. It’s also a good formula for selling books.
Three anti-Obama releases were in the top 40 of Amazon.com’s best-seller list on Monday, despite little critical attention or mainstream media coverage.
“There’s a pent-up demand from people on the right side of the aisle who feel that the mainstream media is effusively covering Barack Obama and not critically covering him,” says Marji Ross, president and publisher of the conservative Regnery Publishing, Inc., which just released David Fredosso’s The Case Against Barack Obama.
Until recently, the most widely read narrative of Obama’s life was written by Obama, in the million-selling Dreams From My Father and The Audacity of Hope. The new releases, like McCain’s campaign ads, attempt a counter-narrative.
The subtitles are the giveaway: Jerome Corsi’s The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, Fredosso’s The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate and Dick Morris’ Fleeced: How Barack Obama, Media Mockery of Terrorist Threats, Liberals Who Want to Kill Talk Radio, the Do-Nothing Congress, Companies That Help Iran, and Washington Lobbyists for Foreign Governments Are Scamming Us . . . and What to Do About It.
The authors allege that Obama is not a benign spokesman for hope and unity, but an ideologue with close ties to 1960s radicals and the Chicago political machine. Corsi is already known as a co-author of Unfit for Command, the influential attack against the war record of Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats’ presidential candidate in 2004. Fredosso is a reporter for National Review Online, while Morris is a former aide to President Clinton who has since made a career of bashing Democrats.
“With book like these, the minute some people know they’re out there, they must have them,” says Cal Morgan, a vice president and executive editor at HarperCollins who worked on Morris’ book and, at the other end of the spectrum, Michael Moore’s Stupid White Men.
Steve Ross, president and publisher of the Collins division of HarperCollins, released Obama’s books when Ross was head of the Crown Publishing Group at Random House Inc. He thinks that the audience for anti-Obama books will grow through the fall, but doubts that sales will reach the levels of the senator’s own books.
“The anti-Obama readership is largely one that has already made up its mind and is looking for validation, while the Obama readership comprises both those who have already made up their minds and those who are curious about him,” Ross says.
Fredosso’s book, which came out last week, has nearly 300,000 copies in print. The Corsi book, released a week earlier, is in its third printing, with a total of 375,000 copies in print. Fleeced, released in June and in its eighth printing, has 210,000 copies. Books taking on the Bush administration, including Jane Mayer’s The Dark Side, are selling well, but no anti-McCain works are currently attracting attention.
“Obama is a fresh subject – it’s all new ground,” says Peter Osnos, founder of PublicAffairs, which released Scott McLellan’s What Happened, a best-selling criticism of Bush by the president’s former press secretary. “McCain doesn’t have the same kind of resonance, it’s nothing in comparison, because you can still shape people’s view of Obama, but it’s way too late to shape their view of McCain.”
The anti-Obama books share not just a point of view, but a path to success that has worked for both liberals and conservatives- online word of mouth and appearances with sympathetic interviewers, such as Fox News’ Sean Hannity, who has had Corsi, Fredosso and Morris on his show. Ross says that Hannity is not just an interviewer, but an “enthusiast for books” who “gets people excited about the idea of reading a book.”
“Books from both the left and the right often work this way,” Morgan says, noting that Moore’s book was also a best-seller.
An More reading material for early PUMA risers:
Obama without his script
Judging by his reaction to the Georgia-Russia crisis, Obama’s make-believe presidency isn’t ready for prime time.
Jonah Goldberg
August 12, 2008
The Obama campaign has for months pursued the odd strategy of having the junior senator from Illinois act as if he were already kinda-sorta president of the United States. In June, it tried sticking a quasi-presidential seal on his lectern. Then in July, he conducted what seemed like official state visits with foreign leaders and delivered something like a “prenaugural” address in Berlin, inviting comparisons to JFK and Reagan.
It’s an understandable ploy. More than most candidates, Barack Obama needs to appear like a plausible commander in chief because he’s not only inexperienced (during the last Summer Olympics he was still an Illinois state legislator), he’s novel. The name, the skin color, the cosmopolitan upbringing: Fair or not, all of these things give Obama the aura of otherness that is both part of his charm and a potential handicap.
If the would-be president can seem plausibly presidential, voting for him might not seem like such a crapshoot. It all makes sense, even if it fosters an air of presumptuousness.
(David Letterman recently offered a list of the top 10 signs Obama is overconfident. Among them: “Asked guy at Staples, ‘Which chair will work best in an oval-shaped office?’ “; “Having head measured for Mt. Rushmore;” and “Offered McCain a job in gift shop at the Obama Presidential Library.”)
Now fate has given Obama a chance to be presidential rather than pretend. Taking advantage of the Olympic distraction in Beijing, the Russians invaded South Ossetia, a territory on the north side of Georgia, a democratic U.S. ally. Out of the blocks, the Russians bombed civilians, rolled tanks across an internationally recognized border and threatened to launch an all-out, destabilizing war. Now it looks as if their army has cut Georgia in two.
Moreover, Russian bombs reportedly targeted the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which runs through Georgia on its way to the Mediterranean — the only oil pipeline in Central Asia not under Russian control. Russia is tightening its chokehold on oil and gas at precisely the moment energy costs have become the paramount domestic issue in the U.S. presidential campaign.
Obama’s response?
First, late Thursday evening, he gave a conventional written statement calling for calm, U.N. action and “restraint” from both sides — followed an hour later by a slightly stronger condemnation of Russian aggression and a call for a cease-fire.
The invasion of Georgia elicited a wan written communique instead of the sort of exciting rhetoric we’ve come to expect from his make-believe presidency. But he did make it in front of the cameras the next day for a rally celebrating his vacation in Hawaii. He promised “to go body surfing at some undisclosed location.”
During Obama’s make-believe presidency, we’ve heard about bold action, about the courage to talk to dictators. When faced with a real “3 a.m. moment,” Obama — who boasts about 200 foreign policy advisors, broken into 10 subgroups — proclaims, “I’m going to get some shave ice.”
Now, of course, this is a bit unfair in that Obama had planned his no doubt well-deserved vacation for a very long time. But presidential vacations are always well planned — and often interrupted.
Indeed, President Bush’s jaunt to the Olympics as a “sports fan” should also have been cut short the moment tanks started rolling over a country he’d proclaimed a “beacon of liberty” during his visit there in 2005. By Monday, both Bush and Obama were playing catch-up to Sen. John McCain, who seemed to have grasped the gravity from the get-go and whose support for Georgia is long-standing. He took the lead from the outset, demanding on Friday morning an emergency meeting of NATO and Western aid to the fledgling democracy.
The geopolitical significance of Russia’s invasion of Georgia at this stage is hard to gauge. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin may not wish to revive the Soviet Union or the Cold War, but he clearly seeks to restore Russia’s imperial stature. And Item One on that agenda is to crush Georgia’s independence and smother hopes for NATO’s expansion to Russia’s “near abroad.”
The campaign significance for Obama is easier to calculate. He has been playacting at being presidential in order to convince voters that we live in a “new moment” with “new challenges” — and that he is the president we need for this new era.
This moment calls for more than playacting, yet Obama looks lost without a presidential script. Events in the Caucasus — and, for that matter, in Beijing — suggest that the times aren’t so new after all. Two powerful antidemocratic foes are once again flexing their muscles at a moment when America seems weak and distracted.
That is not a new challenge but a very old one. Perhaps this is not a time for a novice spouting grand rhetoric about a new page in history, but for someone who’s actually read the pages of some old, but still relevant, books. Perhaps this is not the time for playacting.
Perhaps it is not the time for body surfing?
jgoldberg@latimescolumnists.com
Goodnight or Goodmorning PUMAs. I’ve never been the last or the first so this is the best. Hehehe
Truly “Standing (Sitting) Alone”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12455.html
Penn in December 2007 on Plan for Two-Way Race Against Obama: “Release the Tapes”
August 11, 2008 8:17 PM
In a December 30, 2007 memo written on the eve of the Iowa caucuses, Mark Penn writes to his fellow Clinton staffers that after the caucuses, if Obama “is riding a high we will have to take him down.”
He runs through a series of potential attacks against Obama — he has taken a bunch of liberal positions that make him unelectable, has been inconsistent on Iraq, has flip-flopped on issues, and voted present a number of times in the Illinois legislature instead of taking a position.
Then, playing out a number of scenarios, Penn writes that if they come out of Iowa and it’s a two-way race with Obama, “on Friday we do a media interviews (sic) and basically say that he is unvetted, discuss his ever-changing positions. Release the tapes. Create immediate pressure that deprives him of oxygen.’
“Release the tapes”????
What tapes?
Hi PUMAs,
I hope all is well with you. I wanted to post a link to this new McCain ad–BHO is a “celebrity”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XonsU2B16_0
Hey guys,
This letter is incredible. We should probably use parts of it to send to Super Delegates. (the author said that she doesn’t mind in the comments section).
http://clintondems.com/2008/08/my-letter-to-super-delegates/
good morning pumas¡¡
i had been away 4 10 days
and had been impossible 4 me to log in
ANY NEWS???????
how about instead of waiting for MCCAIN
to bring out pretentious´s dirty cloth,
why not
HILLARY have it out in the convention, and
burn it out, and be a real patriot
good morning Puma’s and Bill I hope you’re enjoying your morning coffee
Good Morning Puma’s
Another beautiful day and another day we puma’s will make a difference.
I had located two interesting articles I was going to mention here but seems folk are to fast for me since they have already been mentioned;
The Mark Penn and what tapes story as #517 sandipuma pointed out:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/penn-in-decembe.html
The harassment of another Clinton Delegate (Sacha Millstone) as mentioned by several other people;
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/12/dems-call-clinton-delegate-on-carpet/
I got busy yesterday but wanted to thank Trish for the nice video she created. I really enjoyed and the imagining was fantastic.
Yes, I am enjoying the coffee and running late as usual. This place keeps me busy with reading material
I hope you are well, seems like you put in long days.
I’m doing great, I wake early every morning but not as early as you
I’m doing great, I wake early every morning but not as early as you
That is good to hear, that you are doing well. You may not be up as early as me but I bet I go to bed much sooner
Never been much of a night person rather enjoy the sunshine.
Good morning Pumas!
First, I’m sorry to hear of Wizards’ passing. My prayers to his family and puma friends.
Trish, great video!
Completed my prowl for yesterday.
My laptop got the nasty CNN top 10 story virus. May have to replace it, find out today. Finally brought home one computer from the store.
I’m can read on an off at the store if I’m not busy, but been busy…I guess that is a good thing.
I”m here. Try to do what I can. Your all doing a great job!
Murphy, thanks once again for giving us all a place to blog.
It’s there, in print: “What is they win?” they are actually wondering
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/if-they-managed-to-wrest-the-nomination-away-from-obama/
good morning PUMAs
Big Ticer is back and I am sure he would welcome your comments and support here
http://pumaalliance.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/the-puma-principle/
and here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sNGYtbkbGo
and here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh3eXJCpu7Y
good morning PUMA’s
Did BO mention Geraldine Ferraro by name in his “throw grandma from the train speech”?
Just penned a note of sincere thanks to Geraldine Ferraro for standing up for all of us. To quote one line of my note: You are an exemplar of grace and courage!
Going to the mailbox now…
#522 Bill-K thanks for sharing those articles that second one really makes me mad, tough guys intimating a woman(Sacha Millstone). God for bid someone speaks out against the great chosen one.
#530 gojoyknocks yes I believe he did, have to go back and check but I’d bet at least 5 he did during his speech on racism.
We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent
Goor morning Pumas,
This is the best I could do with my Thank You to Geraldine Ferraro:
Dear Geraldine Ferraro,
I appreciate your continued efforts to obtain equality for all women voters. You have been a staunch adversary for the removal of discrimination in the political arena.
You are historically the first woman to run for the position of the Vice President of the United States of America. You also stood at the side of the first woman, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, in her unprecedented campaign for the President of the United States.
I wish to Thank You for your continued support advocating that women can, and one day will, fill the highest position of this nation with dignity.
Yours humbly,
#530 slyt2… I remember thinking after the speech ,when reporterers were say ing it was the greatest since “I have a dream”, Not if your his grandmother or Geraldine Ferraro.
gojoyknocks lmao yep yep,wasn’t that the starting of the throwing under the bus. One reporter said he threw his own grandmother under the bus and he was mad , can’t remember who it was.
537 slyt2
Well, XO’s in Hawaii trying to find where he left her.
Hey foxnews has a guy on who is talking about PUMA;s not nice but talking about us. Turn it on.
I really am smarter than my typing suggests. You’re not your #536 I’m vain too.
Morning Pumas. Not sure if you have seen this:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20080812/Clinton.Campaign/
1gypsy4mc – Barry , Barry, I’m over here
where Grandma
under this big bus Barry
Hold on Grandma I’ve got to dig through all these other old typical white people to find you.
BY the way gypsy good letter you wrote to Geraldine Ferraro.
I’m a little slow in my brain today, does anyone have the link to the comments made in regard to Geraldine Ferrarro comments that we are responding to?
I’m slow too do you want the link to the speech where he mentioned her name because I have that.
542 slyt2
I needed that chuckle – and thanks.
What did FOX or the pundit have to say? We’re not exactly on their popularity list for XO, but I bet where fist on their other list!!
Let’s go Pumas. This is from a high school senior:
The participation of Hillary Clinton in the presidential election makes many people think that women have gained so many privileges since the ratification of the 19th Amendment which permitted woman’s suffrage that we have already reached an ideal world in which women have the same rights and capacities as men do.
However, in my opinion, it is still a man’s world since the man-dominant society is a tradition which is very difficult to modify. There is a lot of vocabulary in our society which can show sexism. For example, in many languages, masculine gender generally represents all including female gender. Therefore, this type of language limits our thoughts making us think automatically that men are more important than women. In addition, there are also some words like fireman, chairman and air-hostess which illustrate discrimination. Hence, people have these words replaced with other more convenient ones like firefighter, chairperson and flight-attendant.
With respect to work, this type of discrimination is more visible. Generally, a woman who does the same work as a man does receive a lower wage. Apart from this, it is quite difficult for women to be promoted since they are considered to have a lack of capacity of organization in spite of the fact they are very diligent and can work very efficiently. In addition, women, especially those young ones, have more handicaps to find a good job as they may need maternity leave. Added to this, there are several professions like taxi and bus drivers which are especially for men.
Concerning sports, men’s games are the most popular ones. For example, even though there are both football games, a male soccer match is much more attractive and exciting than a female one. Moreover, male players generally earn more money than female players.
In the area of family, children’s surnames generally follow that of their father’s regardless of the fact that their mother is the one who gives them birth. Thus, considering this, many countries like Uruguay decides to obligate families to put surnames of father and mother to their children to solve this discriminatory problem. It is also a tradition that women should stay at home doing housework meanwhile her husband should go out to earn enough livings to maintain the family. In spite of change in time, this tradition remains in many cultures establishing an ideal family model for young people to follow. In some societies such as the Arab one, women are prohibited to go out without something to cover their faces. These societies are so religious and conservative that there are almost no changes in women’s rights from antiquity.
All in all, it is impossible for modern society to achieve absolute equality between women and men but we can improve this problem by making women have more civil rights and social respect.
oh wait you mean what she said yesterday on the show that we decided to write her a thank you note. Braindead here sorry, no I do not have that.
“but I bet we’re first” – maybe I need some coffee.
#545 1gypsy4mc oh they brought up the point (fox and friends) about Howard Wolfson saying if Edwards affair would have came out she would have won Iowa. Well they had two guest on and the male guest said ,why are we talking about this no one cares anymore if she could have won or not except for the clintons and the PUMA’s and Clintons need to defang us. He said defang us twice in two different sentences, the woman on fox and friends said they need to be addressed they are being ignored (us) and that’s when he said it again that we won’t listen and we need to be defanged.(Not exactly word for word but defang was used.
464 freddiebrown
Dances – thank you for sending the flyer. But it is only 11 pm … and you’re off ? See you tomorrow then. Gnite
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“only 11pm”… but I get up at 5:30 AM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJACpUums98
A report from Kenyan tv about the Obama Odinga connection.
Obama did not stop endorsing Odinga even after he wrote a Memorandum of Understanding to the Muslim league saying he would introduce Sharia law and other things which would be oppressive towards women.
551 Alice Rodham Puma
This is already going on here in many states. That is why so many muslims are quietly asserting themselves in the political spectrum. There are muslim activists at almost all major colleges and universities. You can “google” each state and prepare yourself for a shock.
Wow! There are already 500 comments here, so I’m probably way late. But here’s my thank you note to Geraldine Ferraro.
Dear Ms. Ferraro:
My husband and I were discussing Obama yesterday, and we agreed that if he were white there would be no reason for him to have the support he has. He doesn’t have relevant experience OR good judgment.
And then I remember your statement in the Daily Breeze, “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.”
Geraldine, you were RIGHT! We know it, you know it … the whole country is going to show that they know it in November.
Thank you for telling the truth then. And thank you for continuing to tell the truth this past weekend when you spoke out against the double standard used against women.
Best regards
My father is 79 years old today. He is not connected to the net, and really, doesn’t type, though he has a computer. He is not a PUMA officially, but I have been sending prowls for him, at his request. He is a true Democrat and has been active in the party as long as I can remember.
He says he is very proud of all of us for the stand we are taking, and for including him in them in this small way.
Happy Birthday Dad!
I have a nice Thank You card with my comments and thanks ready to mail to Ms Ferraro and I have begged her to ask Hillary to sign the request for her nomination.
Thank you dear PUMAs and our leaders for everything you do to help make our dream come true.
XOX
#553
Happy Birthday Henrietta’s Dad!!
549 slyt2
Well, that just goes to show that the “bite” is worse than the “bark”!! Well, they’ll find out that these Pumas have a huge appetite!
ok, here’s my letter to Geraldine Ferraro:
Dear Ms. Ferraro,
Thank you for having the courage and conviction to stand up for yourself and women everywhere. I have always admired your determination to not allow the negative forces that exist in the rank and file to stop you from speaking out. Through your words and actions you raise the bar for women and men everywhere to climb out of their comfort level and fight for equality.
It is worrisome and frightening that we live in a world where women such as you, Senator Clinton and many others, who have attempted to advance themselves politically, are degraded and prejudiced simply because they are women who present themselves as women. I am convinced if these same women entered the playing field showing only masculine characteristics and behavior, the media and political leaders would never have attacked so readily or with such vile sexism.
Again, thank you for your strength and generosity in standing up for the injustices we see accepted so readily in our society.
Trish
Puma Democrat
http://blog.pumapac.org
553 Henerietta
Here’s a big Texas Hug and Happy Birtday!
(((((((Henrietta’s Dad))))))
#553 Henerietta tell your dad HAPPY BIRTHDAY and hope it has a great one
Good Morning Pumas, Was reading up the thread and read that #393 ElyLosAngeles has a Celebritys list I heard on Fox the other day that Angelina Jolie has not made her mind up I found this link will try and post a link for the first time [ I'm a newbie on the puter] She was named goodwill ambassador for the United Nations High Commission on Refugees in 2001 [crossing fingers]
http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2008/08/angelina-jolies.html
OMG I think I actually did it!!!!!!!
Colorado Democrats Threaten Delegate’s
DENVER, Colo. — An e-mail sent from the Political Director of the Colorado Democratic Party threatened the status of a national delegate, alleging she made “disparaging public remarks” about Sen. Barack Obama.
Sacha Millstone of Boulder told CALL7 Investigator John Ferrugia that her comments were critical, but they were not public.
Millstone acknowledged she was frustrated over how the Obama campaign was treating delegates who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and told a fellow delegate, in what she believed was a private e-mail exchange, that she was not sure she could vote for Obama at the Democratic National Convention later this month
The other delegate apparently filed a complaint with the state Democratic Party suggesting Millstone lose her status as a delegate.
Apparently the Political Director of Colorado’s Democratic Party, William Compton, took the suggestion very seriously and told Millstone via e-mail, “You are directed to come in to the Party Headquarters and explain your comments and why you should remain a national delegate…”
Millstone, who worked on the campaign for Hillary Clinton, considered the e-mail a threat.
“I think that one of the reasons I got this letter was to intimidate me,” said Millstone. “It sounded very totalitarian. I thought it sounded undemocratic and I was completely shocked.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Read The Rest Maybe We Can Send Emails To The News Station
MAILING MY LETTER TO MS FERRARO THIS MORNING!
August 12, 2008
Mrs. Ferraro
I shall open my letter to you with a quote;
To be somebody, you must last.
Ruth Gordon
You, Ms. Ferraro sure are somebody!
As a Canadian and a long support of the Clintons I commend you for you testicular fortitude, as a political supporter once described Hillary. You are definitely in her league.
I am one of the International Pumas that support Senator Clinton. The only thing, I cannot do is vote for her and apparently donate to her campaign; but I have 20 friends and relatives living in America and they hear from me constantly.
As a feminist we in our younger days won a few battles but I fear the younger generation is just coasting on those won issues. Perhaps, this election has awoken the sleeping Puma in all of us and she will not rest for a long time from now on!
God bless and thank you for taking a stance and God Bless America!
Respectfully yours,
#560 PumaRhythm yea I saw that on fox also when her father was on and mentioned she hasn’t made up her mind yet. Her dad did bring up a couple of good points about Cindy McCain and herself how they share a lot of beliefs and do things with third world countries or something like that. Her dad brought up some really good points about his problems with BO with he got blasted for I guess but some people.
562 PumaRhythm
What did you do? my curiosity is triggered.
I enjoyed this morning’s prowl. It feels good to get to do something nice for Ms. Ferraro instead of continually having to ARGUE with EVERYONE in our party! I sent the fanciest thank you card I had on hand. What was that quote from Madeline Allbright about a special place in hell for women that don’t support other women? Does anyone have that written down somewhere?
Good Morning everyone. Happy birthday Henrietta’s Dad!
Had a long day at work yesterday, so just lurked yesterday. I did do all the prowls, including the late one’s.
Back at work now, so will check in later
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
take some time to read Tom In Paine -another great article
What is Geraldine Ferraro’s official title? I would like to show due respect.
Here’s mine.
Ms. Ferraro,
I am writing as short a note as I can, to say Thank YOU! For standing up for Hillary, for standing up for women, for standing up alone and publicly stating that the double standard for women competing for public office must stop.
This morning I read the obituary for a friend I knew from Mass. She too stood up for women’s’ rights. This is a short excerpt from that obituary.
Sylvia Bowman was a courageous fighter for the rights of women and children, including incest survivors. In 1967, she became a social worker for the State of Massachusetts and a member of Local 509 of the Service Employees International Union. Sylvia ran for president of Local 509 in 1987 and experienced outrageously disrespectful tactics used by her opponent’s campaign. She filed charges of sexual harassment and in 1995 won her case in the Massachusetts Supreme Court.
So as you can see, in 2007-2008, we are no better off in the war for a fair and equal right to pursue any high office, than we were in 1987. But Sylvia showed us that we can wage and win, battle by battle, if we pursue, and continue to fight for equal rights. Women like you, and like Hillary, remind us it’s a battle worth fighting for.
Dawn E
Proud Texas Puma
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_10170139
Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate
E-mail challenges Clinton backer; she wonders where free speech went
By Allison Sherry
The Denver Post
Sacha Millstone of Boulder has hired a lawyer after a Democratic Party e-mail ordered her to come to headquarters and explain disparaging remarks she made about Barack Obama. A Clinton supporter, she hired an attorney who wrote the party asking for the rules that allow the party to threaten a person’s removal from the state delegation. Party officials say the issue has been dropped. (RJ Sangosti, file photo )The Colorado Democratic Party would like Boulder delegate Sacha Millstone, who is devoted to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, to give up her spot as a delegate to the Democratic National Convention.
Party officials said Monday that they won’t insist Millstone resign. But in an e-mail last week, Billy Compton, state political director of the Colorado Democratic Party, ordered Millstone into his office to explain disparaging comments she made about Barack Obama.
Compton said the party had received a complaint about Millstone from another delegate.
“You are hereby directed to come in to the party Headquarters and explain your comments and why you should remain a national delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention in light of these comments,” the letter said.
Millstone, who has hired a lawyer, was infuriated.
“Isn’t there a right to free speech? Isn’t this right in line with our time-honored tradition with the Dems?” she said. “These intimidation tactics have a chilling effect on people feeling comfortable speaking up.”
Millstone’s lawyer wrote Compton asking for the rules that allow the party to threaten removal from the state delegation.
State party officials said Monday that the issue has been dropped.
#562 I wonder…is she a Dem or an Independent? Did she support a candidate in the primaries does anyone know?
#565 1gypsy4hill LOL I posted a link for the 1st time…Im new at this.
#572 pa dem
Isn’t it interesting that the delegates for Bo can tear Hillary down in the media and in public but none can say a bad word about Bo or else they’re called up before the carpet.
Ticks me off royally.
Fox news turn on good be a good one , right now.
573 PumaRhythm
Congratulations!! Once you get used to “copy”/”paste”, it makes life so much easier. Just keep up the good work!
“testicular fortitude”
Uh. I think “testicular fortitude” is offensive, foremost because it elevates the characteristics associated with “testicles” to some sort of superior level, and by implication, makes it a goal to which some would wish to aspire. For woman feminists, nothing could be further from the truth.
If I was set on using that kind of term at all, I would use “Ovarian fortitude”, to express strength and resistance to oppressive powers. It’s closest to the truth, and far enough from the male mythology of superiority.
575 slyt2
Oh, next week is going to be good!! I’m sick of the media and pundits trying to outguess the voters!
#577 DancesWithPumas
I remember on the campaign trails, when Hillary was being introduced to the crowd, the guy who travelled with her, (brain freeze can’t remember his name) went to say something about testicular fortitude and she stopped him. It was very apparant she was not impressed by those words.
577 DancesWithPumas on 08.12.08 at 9:37 am “testicular fortitude”
Uh. I think “testicular fortitude” is offensive, foremost because it elevates the characteristics associated with “testicles” to some sort of superior level, and by implication, makes it a goal to which some would wish to aspire. For woman feminists, nothing could be further from the truth.
If I was set on using that kind of term at all, I would use “Ovarian fortitude”, to express strength and resistance to oppressive powers. It’s closest to the truth, and far enough from the male mythology of superiority.
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Your are missing the point, and why do you always have to be so critical with almost everyone comments….
It was used by a major Clinton supporter who could not find a stong enough word, from his masculine mentality and thus used that expression.
It took a lot of balls for feminist to make a stance,
sorry, if you have taken offense to this word,but get over yourself!
Here is some info on Sacha Millstone (superdelegate from CO mentioned above).
As you can see iin the following link she certainly seems like an accomplished woman. The thought that DNC in CO would feel free to threaten/intimidate her is quite disturbing, though sadly, not surprising.
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http://www.natcapsolutions.org/Sacha_Millstone.htm
Sacha.Millstone@RaymondJames.com
1942 Broadway, Suite 400
Boulder, Co 80302
1825 I Street NW
Washington, DC 20006
800-201-4554 | 303-402-6907
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OR:
P.O. Box 398
Eldorado Springs, CO 80025
Tel: 303-554-0723
Fax: 303-554-6548
info@natcapsolutions.com
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In case anyone wants to contact her expressing support, etc.
(I have not checked out this “Political Director of Colorado’s Democratic Party, William Compton.” That’s my next move. Maybe he needs to a little tutorial in the meaning and practice of democracy?….)
Can someone please direct me to the link to the Youtube channel?
I’ve been unable to catch up with all the posts here.
Thanks,
Fi
#577 DancesWithPumas
How ’bout “intestinal fortitude?”
It’s sort of neutral and implies having “guts,” which hopefully applies to both genders….
If you don’t like the term “testicular fortitude” you can use the term “nads” for gonads.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday once again shows Barack Obama attracting 45% of the vote while John McCain earns 43%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48% and McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.
Obama is supported by 77% of Democrats while McCain earns the vote from 85% of Republicans. The two candidates are essentially even among unaffiliated voters.
anything but testicles, please!
#573 1gypsy4hill Thank You! LOL I never paid that much attention to my computer until I joined pumapac…and now I am trying to learn as quickly as I can….every day I am in awe of the work that pumas do here…so when someone posts instructions on how to do something..i take notes and at nite I stay up and practice. Pumas are making such a difference…on my way home from the protest at the Rules and Bylaws protest on May 31st…I was at my lowest…and then a few days later I found pumapac….this movement is going to move mountains and I want to help.
#586 Fiona
LOL. That’s cute – I love the rolling eyes.
(Hey, what’s wrong with testicules?!!!)
TrishfromCanada
Where can I view your video?
Thanks
Mama here
The focus today is on political action, not body parts.
Be wonderful to each other
Sorry ….I think I have one too many “protest” in that last post LOL please everyone just bear with me…I promise I will improve!
# 581 Brooklyn, Thank you for posting that ! I wrote Murphy this morning asking if we could do a prowl on the situation . I think that if we can get the names of the xo delegates and file complaints about their harassment and intemidation of Clinton Dels. with the chairs of the Cred. Comm. , we may be able to at least put them on notice that we will not tolerate their gestapo like tactics .. I am so peeved about this !!!
#590 MamaPuma
lol thanks Mama for that laugh.
Well I will add to the ongoing collection of letters for Ms Ferraro. I printed it out on the puma letter head and will be mailing it today:
Dear Geraldine Ferraro,
My wife and I would like to offer our appreciation and thanks for all that you have done in your years of public service. You are an icon of encouragement to those who wish to stand up for what is right and what is wrong. Your actions enable our country to grow stronger.
We greatly appreciate your support of Senator Clinton and standing up for the voters of America. It appears the Democratic Party no longer values the basic principles, the basic core values of the American people. We truly appreciate your efforts to help correct a tragedy that is taking place in American history. This tragedy will blacken our history and set us back for decades to come.
My wife moved from Argentina to America in 2000 and we married in 2001. Through naturalization my wife became a United States citizen. She was proud to go to the voting booth and place her vote (as I) for Senator Clinton. She knows first hand the potential of such a tragedy that is taking place right here in America.
We wish to thank you again for your support of Senator Clinton and the voices of so many American voters.
Sincerely,
Morning Pumas,
Lots of action today — Lots!
Over 30,000 letters sent yesterday, and hundreds of notes to Geraldine Ferraro — have you sent yours yet?
New post up about news of Rendell pressuring delegates NOT to sign the 300 Petition.
Be ready to take action today,
Take it upstairs!
Fiona, here is the link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TscHyh6t2Ng
Good morning PUMAs! I missed all of you!
Today is Peace and Power Day in honor of Wizard and Firebelle’s friend Jim.
No snarking, sniping, exposed claws or ruffled fur today.
Today I challenge each PUMA to walk away from negativity and negative feelings. Let the slights and possible offenses go – chances are it was NOT intended that way. We are a family.
Walk away from it – channel the energy and emotion into a positive action. There is MUCH to be done and very little time to do it.
Get out in your communities and spread the word. Put up flyers. Give out business cards. Email your friends. Donate. Network. Send out Thank You notes to anyone who has been sympathetic or at least unbiased in their reviews or opinions of our group and activities.
Please close every post today with “Peace” as a reminder.
Peace.
OK PUMAS – YOU’RE GOING TO GET LONELY DOWN HERE.
It seems to me that the MSM has become extremely defensive about its lack of curiosity re the Edwards affair. The fact that these rumors were known WHILE he was running for President exposes deep flaws in their judgement.
Maybe, just maybe, this will create a silver lining for us. The stench of BO’s Chicago corruption, nefarious meddling in Kenyan politics, etc. could lure more journalists to the trail.
Hannity keeps saying that 2008 is the year that Mainstream Media died. My guess is that there will be some looking for redemption and resurrection, even if it means bringing down the Messiah.
Contact information re: DNC officicals involved in CO superdelegate Sacha Millestone situation described above
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Colorado Democratic Party Officers
Patricia Waak
Chair
pwaak@coloradodems.org
(http://coloradodems.org/content/view/41/46/)
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Colorado Democratic Party Staff
Bill Compton
Political Director
bcompton@coloradodems.org
(http://coloradodems.org/content/view/42/46/)
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Or,
Contact the CDP @
Colorado Democratic Party
777 Santa Fe Drive Denver, CO 80204
info@coloradodems.org
Phone (303) 623-4762
Fax (303) 623-2443
(http://coloradodems.org/component/option,com_philaform/Itemid,53/form_id,2/)
Description and info on CO Dem Party organization and players now, post-Obama, i.e. Second Coming of the Lord.
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http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obamagenco.html
Obama General Election Campaign Organization, Colorado, updated July 23, 2008
(1). Obama for America
(2.) Campaign for Change
(3.) Colorado Democratic Party
Made my first round of phone calls. On my way out to mail the letter and take the grandkids school shopping. I will take the phone numbers and make more calls on my cell. Peace Be With You!
For some reason I keep having trouble logging on here. I’ve had to change my password several times because either my user name wasn’t registered or my password wasn’t correct.(use the same one almost everywhere),
Anyway, wrote to GAF today thanking her for standing almost alone against women continuing to be pushed aside for feeble men. I also wrote that I hoped in her and my lifetime that we could make this a non-issue.
I think that is overly optimistic given our ages but maybe some of you will live to see the day.
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) – Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu, who faces a tough re-election, has had her name removed from a fundraiser announcement for presidential candidate Barack Obama.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Thanks Murphy for posting the financial information. I never doubted your integrity but it always helps to have this information made public. I have only been able to makee two small donations so far but I’m glad the money is being spent wisely.
May I make a suggestion…I know that we are all angry at what has happened to our party and to Senator Clinton. However, I think we should try and elevate our language a bit. Despite the fact that those that feel threatened by PUMA have resorted to name calling and using demeaning terms, we need not respond to them on their low level.
Ok, so I couldn’t think of what to say. I can’t write poetry no problem. But when it comes to business/professional, I am dumbfounded. So I used what was in my PROWL email, so here it is (Non-Inspirational):
Dear Ms. Ferraro,
I jsut want to say thank you for stating unequivocally on TV that double standards against women who compete has GOT TO STOP!! Never stop speaking out for Women’s rights & Equality!
Sincerely,
My name
Puma PAC member
My city, Tx.
As I was writing my thank you note to Ms. Ferraro, I remembered how brave she was in defending HRC during the primary. Of course, she was called a racist just like Bill Clinton and everyone else, but her courage came shining through. It is the same quality I love so much in Hillary. Now I am wondering, where are all the other women in politics, and why aren’t they making as much noise and screaming from the rooftops????????
Are they all cowards like Nancy?
On a lighter note….a representative from the DNC just stopped by looking for money. Lifesize Hillary with her Denver sign and puma pac seal were their to greet him.
hee,hee,hee – can I just say how hilarious it was ? He tried to argue with me, but quickly became frustrated.
We pumas have learned a lot the last few months. I think he was frustrated because my arguments included factual information and his were more emotional. In any case, lifesize Hillary , my children and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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