“What’s clear is much of this so called rage is being stirred not by Hillary, but those pretending to be her supporters. Stop the hate. You have totally disrespected the Senator with your emails. Stop the hate. Not sure if you know, but we are keeping copies of all these emails in the archives. Yes, you are not going to get away with pretending to be for Hillary. She is a leader of the Dem party.”
from Donna Brazile threatening Sharon, a Democratic voter, with retaliation for contacting her about the election, on June 8, 2008.
“The racist bullshit I have gotten from my fellow Clinton supporters has been enough to make me puke. You have a choice. No one would be forcing you. It is a choice. A choice you will have to live with. 100 years in Iraq if McCain gets elected. Thousands more dead American Soldiers.” — from Garry S. Shay, Member, DNC (CA) and Lead Chair Rules Committee, California Democratic Party, to a Democratic voter from California, July 18, 2008.
“Man, you have to chill. Try tennis!” — from Dwight Pelz, WA State Democratic Party Chair and Super Delegate, to a Democratic voter in Maryland in response to an email she sent requesting an open convention and roll call vote, on July 18, 2008.
“Good for you, when the fascists come in the middle of the night to take you to a concentration camp, remember how you voted. Take me off your whiner list . . .then tell them to stop calling me telling me that they are going to vote for mccain. i am would rather vote for a rabid dog than any Fascist republican like mccain. read the declaration of independence.” — from Steven Ybarra, a California Super Delegate, in response to a letter from a Democratic voter, July 8, 2008.
“When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.” — from Ben Johnson, member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, to Sherry, a Democratic voter from Michigan, July 7, 2008.
“Having Senator Clinton’s name on a roll call without having the votes would just embarrass her, waste time, and make people agonize over nothing. I find it difficult to believe that this organization is not an undercover McCain operation. If you want to be productive, advocate for Senator Obama to choose Senator Clinton as his running mate.” — from Patti Higgins, Alaska State Party Chair and Superdelegate, to a Democratic voter who asked that she ensure an open convention and roll call vote for all the delegates, July 18, 2008.
“GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!
Do not email us again. Thank you.” — from Carolyn Warner, Arizona Super Delegate and former state senator, to a Democratic voter who requested that she help make sure that the Convention includes an open roll call vote as in years’ past, July 18, 2008.
“Honestly, this is the 9th email today, so I believe you’re ready to not only destroy Roe versus Wade, voting rights, civil liberties and civil rights. Perhaps adding trillions more to the deficits through non stop tax cuts to the wealthy and 100 more years in Iraq. Yes, please join Rush and McCain asap. The train has left. Catch it. Please don’t send these emails to working people like myself. Notice you sent it to my campus address. I am a working class person. Can you find someone who drinks latte? Message to the base: stay home.” — from Donna Brazile to Jennifer, a Democratic voter, May 2008 (Though she claims to be a working class person, Donna Brazile has been named one of the 50 Most Influential Women in America, is a best-selling author, and is represented as a speaker for hire by the Harry Walker Agency, the same firm that represents Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Michael Eisner, and Henry Kissenger.
“I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.” — Don Fowler, DNC Member at Large and former Chair of the DNC, and Alice Germond, Secretary of the DNC, in a letter to Democratic donors, July 19, 2008
“Please remove me from list” — Allan Katz, Florida Super Delegate in response to email requests from individual Democrats who asked him to put Senator Clinton’s name into nomination in Denver.
“So out of touch for being in the moment and not declared. Just keep sending me hate mail and I send you another reply. Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. Please contact my office at (202) 628-8081.” — from Donna Brazile to Robin, a Democratic voter, March 2008
“Get over it, loser. I am NOT a Hillary delegate.” from Amy Everhart, an Austin, Texas delegate pledged to Obama, to Thomas a Democratic voter, July 11, 2008.
“I don’t watch much cable TV.” Howard Dean, chair of the DNC, on why he was not aware that there was blatant sexism in the mainstream media coverage of Senator Clinton’s bid for the nomination. June 1, 2008, one day after the DNC’s Rules Committee voted to take 4 Michigan delegates from Clinton and give them to Obama based on data from mainstream media exit polls.
“I think they’re gonna come around. . . Many of these women were not in the feminist movement when we started this years ago. Many of these women are in the suburbs and raised their children, took care of the house and were dutiful wives, and many of these women are now alone, their husbands are gone, sometimes with younger women, and the children are grown and they have an empty nest . . . they didn’t pursue their dreams — they watched Hillary suffer, they felt her pain, and you know what? They bought in — they got angry and they’ve got to be worked with; they’ve got to be dealt with. They need to know that there will be some real opportunities for women that can come behind this; and I think that can be done.” — Maxine Waters, Democratic Congresswoman from Los Angeles, California since 1990 in an interview with Peter B.Collins on KRXA Radio (from 00:27:30 in webcast), July 24, 2008.
“Hillary ran a very impressive campaign and deserves all the respect that entails. Puma and your tactics diminish that respect. Flooding the e-mails of delegates with hundreds of the same rhetoric does nothing to further your cause.” — James Akers, Texas delegate to Democratic voters who contacted him via email, July 11, 2008.
This log will be updated. We have many more responses from public and elected officials in the Democratic Party and DNC to the public and to individual Democratic voters who contacted them about the election. None of the letters sent by voters which elicited these responses were harassing, threatening, or crude. Some were angry, most were simply serious, but none were ad hominem attacks.
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Whoo Hoo!
Aha here we are
MURPHY -
You have mail regarding new (wonderful) site -
Without Oprah Winfrey, there would be no Obama. To get to him we need a letter writing blitz, or campaign to get to Oprah’s viewers. She is the main source of his funds. I wouldn’t be the least surprised if he offered her the VP slot or some cabinet position.
But she and he have been conspiring to elect the first black president for years, now. I’m quite sure she has no use for Hillary Clinton and maybe our best shot is to swing behind the old man, McCain. (yuck)
Taking some shots against Oprah’s sponsors might be effective, but will have little or no affect on her financial backing.
Would have been #1 if the darn thing hadn’t said “Web page cannot be displayed ” like it quire often does the first time I try to post something.
1 antifish
I’ll match you if it’s not over $25.00…lol.
#4 Mountain Song, I agree completely. When the all might Oprah had that big fund raiser for nobama was when his campaign really took off..
I was wondering if there was any way to find out if her ratings have slipped since she became his “big momma”.
I don’t watch daytime TV; never have. I don’t like her thinking she is “God”. She has so much money, that she can influence just about anything..
I do think mo told Oprah to keep her distance from her man.
I have no idea who her sponsors are. We could write them. Might help….don’t really know..
If nobama had an administration, I’m sure she would be part of it. He’s not going to though..
I am voting for John McCain..
I just got a call from Hillarys Buffalo office. The girl said best thing to do for info would be contact DNC . I will call her Washington office. I know the senate site cannt do anything 60 days before primary or general. But maybe can talk to someone there about her outlook and expectations. I hope.
me too. Vote McCain if I need to.
Those that voted in aol poll from bottom did you go to end of page another vote there McCain was 60 something over Bommas 30 something
Great work on the web site, Murphy. Today’s post sends a very strong message.
I am reposting poll results from Rasmussen Reports (RR has the highest poll accuracy rating):
Monday, July 28, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that Barack Obama’s Berlin bounce is fading. Obama now attracts 45% of the vote while John McCain earns 42%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48% and McCain 45%. Both Obama and McCain are viewed favorably by 56% of voters. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.
Tracking results are based upon nightly telephone interviews with 1,000 Likely Voters and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Following his speech in Berlin, Obama enjoyed two very strong nights of polling on Thursday and Friday. His lead grew to six-points for results released on Saturday (see recent daily results). However, polling on Saturday and Sunday showed the candidates much closer with single-day results similar to polling from before the Berlin speech.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
I can understand getting upset with those responses. I however am highly amused. These “represenatives” of the people are just showing what a collection of arrogant jackasses they really are.
And they think we will back down. (snort)
We are winning.
I think this should be added to the negative responses to Hillary supporters! http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Hillary_Donors_obama/2008/07/23/115522.html?s=al&promo_code=6690-1
#5 MountainSong, I don’t believe that Oprah raises money for Obambi, she is just supportive, and I am sure she has donated her personal money to him, but not from her corporation, too risky for her, she is already in hot waters with a lot women. She will never have a political position on his cabinet, Oprah does not know squad about nasty politics like him, she loves her job too much to leave it. That is just my opinion!
#11 snowtiger
I think its just part of their strategy to get people to THINK that most Dems are on board with their choice.
via JSND:
“Brother of ACORN’s Chief Embezzles $1 Million of Org’s Money
Obama Watch: Dems Finally Angry About Security Breach – ACORN Doesn’t Fall Far
From The Tree
The ACORN OBAMA Knows
Obama’s Closet
excerpt: But back in Chicago, the Association of Community Organizations for
Reform Now (ACORN) is more important than Iraq or Washington. ACORN and its
associated Midwest Academy, both founded in the 1970s, continue to train and
mobilize activists throughout the country, often using them to manipulate public
opinion through “direct action.” It’s sometimes a code for illegal activities.
Prior to law school, Barack Obama worked as an organizer for their affiliates in
New York and Chicago. He always has been an ACORN person — meeting and working
with them to advance their causes. Through his membership on the board of the
Woods Fund for Chicago and his friendship with Teresa Heinz Kerry, Obama has
helped ensure that they remain funded well.
Since he graduated from law school, Obama’s work with ACORN and the Midwest
Academy has ranged from training and fundraising, to legal representation and
promoting their work. ”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/09embezzle.html
Well I have to go. It’s my “day off” and I have a good amount of work to do.
You don’t own your business it owns you.
Always a blast being here.
I will bbl if possible.
Keep feeding the pumas.
again, I ask — why are these people in charge??
#14 nutmegbelle You could be right.
Have a good day. I am rally going now. lol
Fire them all, I mean, don’t vote for any of the people above!
What a humble thought.
Hi all PUMAS…been out of town/busy/sent my nasty emails to you Murphy cuz I just couldn’t remember where they were to go. Oh please, post one of mine!
I’m sure you’ll know which one.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you to the person who made the large donation.
addition to post:
“When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours.
Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.” — from Ben Johnson, member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, to Sherry, a Democratic voter from Michigan, July 7, 2008.
#15 murphy
ACORN is scary stuff – ‘manipulate public opinion’, that’s what his campaign has been all about! With Hillary, you always knew she stood for all Americans and not for herself.
OMG, that must have been his copy and paste email! I received the same one! Jerk.
Murphy have you heard anything on the charges brought to Chicago Bar that Obama lied on his papers for the bar. They claim he didnt tell about his drug use and had over 300.00 in motor fines. The amount board ask for was 200.00?? Might be interesting if anyone can check it. I think it was Friday or today the papers were going to be filed. It was in Chicago paper.
charges ask for his disbarment
I have decided if circus boy happens to remain the nom then I will vote republican across the board because if there is a chance in hell circus boy should win I want the republicans to have the majority so they can shoot down everything he trys to do.
This is there strtegy tell people something make like it is so and people will believe(brain Washing) He and leaders told everyone it was over ,he snubbed the last states to make it look so. She still won big. They dont get it but I think they are worried too. This Acorn group he has sent all over the country to bring in new voters. We really somehow need to have them checked. He did that to win first state senate seat. challanged every signature of opponent.There must be someway we can undo this . Anyone??
PUMAs – just sent my “lunch money” donation for someone…..hopefully it will help.
I am happy to see that McCain is finally starting to question BOs character because it does matter, no matter how ACORNs and DNC try to spin that it does not.
BO has taken his campaign to a global platform for the first time in history. This could set a precedent for other nations in years to come – a pandoras box waiting to be opened!
I’m sure African countries would love us supporting an unfit white candidate, France an unfit muslim candidate, and so forth.
#25 right on me too
Ben Johnson
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February 10, 2008 announcement from Clinton campaign announcing DC, Maryland and Virginia superdelegates who support Sen. Clinton: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5888
Switched June 3rd – [1]
The following is a message delegate Ben Johnson sends people who email him about supporting Hillary Clinton in Denver.
“When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.” — from Ben Johnson, member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, to Debbie, a Democratic voter from Ohio, July 7, 2008.
http://superdelegates.org/Ben_Johnson
Am I # 26?
Oprah’s ratings have dropped because of her political maneuvering but I can’t remember the quoted percentages. I have read articles about her huge, very lavish parties given for Obama at her California estate. She has done much more than campaign and endorse. Actually though, she walked away from Wright’s church many years ago, and I think she may be really disappointed in her candidate right now. She also had a dream! She did tell Ellen, I think, that she can do alot more without being in politics. Of course, titles change many peoples minds.
Gallup Poll for today reports 48% for BO and 40% for McCain. They give their results as a 3 day running average.
Hay checking in.
What is Obamas issue with going to gyms??
Obama Hits the Gym, With Multiple Repetitions (3 Hours Working Out
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2046948/posts
Obama says he got ‘hustled’ by German tabloid
http://www.thelocal.de/13337/20080728/
I think this chic figured out he is using his gym visits to get fan photos taken and she played in to his ego game and scored a story.
Wow Murphy, that’s one ugly series of pictures to see first thing in the morning… Nice work on the site though!
This will be my first time ever voting republican I go back to JFK, I am not scared to do it, it has to be done if Hillary is not the nom, however she will be.
dang didnt see the take it up stairs…lol
#441 prowlland on 07.28.08 at 12:54 pm mcmahont@dnc.org < Deans wright hand man
We ( pumas ) have a long list and a memory like an “elephant” ….
you will see….. TAKE my vote away…like heck you will.
You do and we will see to it that you are voted out of office.
Not a comment it is a promise…
We are growing everyday….and you can’t stop us DNC….watch us growl !!!!!!!!!!!
When you took Hillarys delegates, you took mine, when you pushed her out of the election,
you pushed me out. What comes around, goes around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dean, Pelosi, and Barzille…. Im loving what history is going to say about you…. Im sad about it, but you did it to yourself. How dare you think us that stupid !!!!!______________________________________________
#442 ClintonRules on 07.28.08 at 12:56 pm So…are the Delegates supposed to sign a petition to get Hillary’s name on the ballot for nomination??
i’m slightly confused about this. I read one thing and then a few minutes later I read something else. I just want to know what we have to do to ensure that we have the best possible chance when it comes to making sure her name is on that ballot.
I already have a “moving to England” fund and I’m not afraid to use it…I’d rather not but I won’t live here if *61 buys his way into the White House.
So is it a petition for the Delegates we should work on or…??????
____________________________________________
#443 prowlland on 07.28.08 at 1:03 pm 442…ill explain the best i know how…the pledged delegates from the states have to sign and get it noterrised< sp… they have to have 300 and Hillary has to sign on to it.
#444 prowlland on 07.28.08 at 1:06 pm One of her delegates has done this already ( from Cal.)….i think she wants it done because she want it put in to push Health care ( she wants it voted on at the convention ),,,,not sure if its for nomination
Some are trying to get a list of the delgates…don’t know anymore
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#445 prowlland on 07.28.08 at 1:10 pm and if i know the pumas…the will get the list….lol
I do not watch Oprah anymore. I have lost respect for her. I do not watch CNN or MSNBC. I get most of my info here. I would like Mr. Nobama to debate McCain before convention. My husband thinks I am crazy but I honestly think we can make a difference as a group. It must be Hillary 08.
#6 1gypsy4mc,
OK, here you go. Match away!
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#34 shampoovta
Why does he even respond? The POTUS should be like teflon to these puff pieces!
My kids brought me a smart a– shirt back from Philly, it says a smart a– is better then a dumb elephant,it has the logos ect, but I can’t wear it this year, I did get to wear it to the primarys and everyone liked my shirt!
VERY GOOD MURPHY, FANTASTIC¡¡¡¡, the entry
how come guffy is getting away@ everything
*resko
*acorn
*sinclair
*legislative record
*the politicians that he has thrown in the ditch >>>in order to get ahead
*his undemocratic ways of making politics
* the plot of his candidacy
* relations@ anti-americans radicals
…& can you picture the undemocratic party in the hands of guffy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbzT2YqhGT4
39 antifish
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Gotcha!!!!
Murphy, I do believe I recruited another, he is Rep. but he’s as outraged as us Dems, He wanted to know how many blogs were out there against Obama I told him about 250, probally wrong number, anyway, he wants to see what we’re about, we have many a great discussion or debates lolol, we never yell at each other we just debate, its fun, anyway, he’s our maintence man and since we have about 2000 units he’ll be checking us out when he gets the chance, I tried explaing everything we do, but I’m never any good at that type of thing, so I told come check us out to see, and he will
TREEPUMA
alrighty then…
I am about to lose it…seriously. the convention is how many days away? OMG!!
it’s literally almost here!
It’s both exciting AND terrifying!
Happy Monday Pumas,
Someone asked if Oprah’s ratings had been impacted by her support of BO. I researched this very subject a few days ago – and yes, her ratings have fallen by 7%. I would like to count myself in that figure as I no longer watch her show or any other affiliated show or product.
I also no longer watch: MSNBC, CNN and NBC.
I admire those Pumas who have the grit and intestinal fortitude to bear a full hour of Keith Olbermann.
If you get the chance, check out hillarygreenmountain.org for blog from Mary Kay who always has something interesting and enjoyable to read about the MSM, DNC and the Puma movement.
Murphy: In the future I hope to see this Pac recruit, train, and fund young people interested and capable of first running for City, County, State, and National Democratic Party Positions and of course those wanting to run for future office. This will be the permanent way to assure that a variety of positions are maintained in the Party. The Democratic Party is a collapsing building; it has been for a number of election cycles. When a building of this ilk collapses, only the RATS SURVIVE and are IN Charge. Onward…to defeat the RATS and the hologram.
didn’t bo do his “acceptance” speech to run for president at Ayers home??
These super delegates act like they are volunteers to the US.
Hey most are paid public servants and I for one am sick and tired of them acting like we have no right to email or contact them.
Wonder what it cost to hold a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC, like Rev. Wright did?
49 where did you hear that interesting
Remember that guy that had one somewhere…and it dint get off the ground….cost bunch….the one that was suppose to have an affair with BO…can’t remeber his name.
Maybe we Puma’s should have a big free rock concert and give a few speeches.
I’m sure there are plenty of musicians and singers who still support Hillary.
Sinclair
Is there no end to how CORRUPT this Obummer is?
man I am pizzzed today over these nansty letters form SDs.
We need more, and different posters!
Could our assignment for today please have to do with educating Maxine? How insulting!
56 they are going to get their reward…lol
prowlland,
Well I want to be there when they get it!
I think I saw it on Don’t Vote for Obama, but I’ll try to locate the post again. I was going to start saving all of them……..I’m not sure which site I was at when I read it.
Why the gallup poll came out after Murphy asked question – axelrod, where’s the bounce? they are teasing/playing us, arent they?! that just PROVES one thing that they come to our web site everyday to read our blog and then do something to make us angry!
why this morning CNN, CNN Headlines, CBS, NBC and ABC didnt mention anything about the election except Fox! what the hell are they doing?! stupid secret plans?!
i now do believe that Dem and Repub together to harm our Hill so she cannot become US President.
but i have NO CHOICE so i vote for REPUBLICAN from the TOP to the BOTTOM of my ballot this fall.
in the future, i NEVER vote for any Dem candidates anymore except the ONLY SPECIAL PERSON – Hillary Rodham Clinton.
do your own while you wait…i have written dean right hand man twice today here is his email :
mcmahont@dnc.org
SuperD comments like these should be printed as background for ads like the Denver Group runs in the papers. People need to see how those that are supposed to represent the voters actually feel about the voters.
i meant that for 58…..gezz can’t get a thing posted today
do your own while you wait…i have written dean right hand man twice today here is his email :
mcmahont@dnc.org
#64
Great idea! These people are supposed to represent us.
Good early afternoon Pumas!!!
I just sent out emails to some of my Texas and other SDs, encouraging them to support HRC as she is the candidate who is actually electable!!! I want to drive home this issue over and over and over again.. HRC is the one who “gets it” about the issues that matter to the people, HRC is the one who can make something really happen, not just give a speech about it and then contradict it by ACTING in another way.. I’m going to keep on emailing them and others on the lists I find here and elsewhere each and every day!!!!
GO PUMAS, GO!!!!
This is a must read for those who enjoy satire…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
62….ditto….they all turned their back on her…i say we vote them allllllllll out !!! we can do it !!
Prowlland,
Yeah and the feds arrested L.S. soon as he finished his comments.
Strange.
We need to post lists of all Obummer’s boo-boos. Like, for instance, that the Israeli’s are extremely upset over Odumba’s mockery at the Wailing Wall. Prayer’s left in the Wall are tradionally buried without reading, if not used in a particular ceremony. Odummy made sure to release the content of his prayer to Israeli media BEFORE he placed it in the Wall. Which amounts to blasphemous sacrilege in Israel.
His list is unending, from shady associations, to having his pic taken in front of 10 Downing St (usually reserved only for presidents and chiefs of state, to lying on his Bar application, to ad infinitum.
#51 prowlland…I heard on Hannity and Colmes a while back that BO announced that he was running for President at Ayers home!! BO also said in 2004 that he would not be running in 2008 because he wouldn’t have enough experience yet!! How interesting!!!
Hi everyone,
My internet was down over the weekend, so I’ve been trying to catch up.
I just read some of the e-mail responses above and was shocked that I know a person who wrote one. I won’t say who, but WOW! This person actually isn’t even from Texas, she is a transplant from the East coast. My sense from the beginning was that BO was getting a lot of his support in TX (especially in Austin) from these new arrivals. People in TX are generally moderates and thus supported HC. For many years the Clintons were welcome with open arms in Austin and South Texas, so to be spoken to in this way by these people is especially troubling. It’s embarrassing to have these BO supporters in TX claim to be from here when they’ve only been in TX for a few years. They have great disdain for working people in the state and especially people of color. Austin has become very elitist and, I dare say, even more racist because of the attitudes of these so-called “liberals” from out of state. They are, as the kids say, just posers. They sit around in coffee houses pontificating about how backwards Texans are, while we go out every day and make sure the state keeps chugging along by actually working for a living.
I believe our e-mails have been polite and that we have the right to fight for our cause. These responses just show what great disdain these BO supporters have towards anyone that disagrees with them. The last time I checked we still had the right to speak our mind in this country. Who knows what will happen if BO wins in November. As someone earlier said, God help us if that happens.
Best,
Lara08
PUMA Democrat from TX
# 64,
yeah and have a big sign that says Party Unity?
Who is L.S.?
Larry Sinclair?
Mountain song # 75…Larry Sinclair.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
The horse and pony show begins yet again. Why can’t he make Kerry or Edwards or Gore do this crap.
Bye for now……be back later. Hi Tree.
thanks prowlland, WE CAN DO IT!
Please go read this article!
7/27/2008
TOP TEN THINGS THAT CREEP ME OUT ABOUT OBAMA
By: Rick Moran
10. It creeps me out that whenever Obama makes an appearance, the rain stops falling and the sun comes out. As a rationalist I am loathe to ascribe a direct cause and effect to this phenomenon except that it happens quite frequently and the rainbow created by the sun breaking through the clouds spells out “Yes We Can!”
Probably just a coincidence…
9. It creeps me out that there are about twice as many women at Obama rallies as there are men. Now I am not of the Melvin Udall School of anti-feminist thought (when asked how he writes women so well, Udall responds “I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability”). But what is one to think when watching the reaction of females as Obama is speaking? I’m sorry, but it is hard to imagine a man covering their mouth, chest heaving, barely able to contain himself and then ooooohing and aaaaaahhing when the messiah says something particularly vapid and innocuous.
Elvis, I can understand. But a politician?
8. It creeps me out that the press seems hypnotized by this guy. Grown men and women blubbering like babes when talking about how exciting he is, how mesmerizing he is when he speaks. It’s as if “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” has come to life and the pods have been placed in every newsroom in America. It isn’t just Crissy Mathews and MSNBC. It’s news anchors at CNN, reporters for Time and Newsweek, editorial writers at WaPo and the New York Times. Big media is in the tank for this guy in a big way. They have thrown off all semblance of fairness (never mind objectivity) and just don’t care that people know they are in Obama’s corner. They can’t be shamed into changing. They evidently won’t be deflected from doing their best to elect Obama.
This kind of thing causes the hairs on the back of my neck to prick up – like walking through a graveyard at midnight. It is just plain creepy – no other word for it.
Read More:
http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/07/27/top-ten-things-that-creep-me-out-about-obama/
Hey PUMAs,
Just a recap fro the post downstairs:
-Nancy Pelosi is publishing a book
-A new ovie against BHO–HYPE will be shown a jay before convention
-Several books are released in August
-DEADLINE: AUGUST 1–send Dean your YouTube responses: “Why you are a Deocrat in 2008″? OR “Why I a not voting for BHO”!
Have fun!
Forget the rumors that Bush cabinet person might be on the ticket, 2 of them are actually on Obama team. Now!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/2-from-the-bush-administration-on-obamas-team/
Anyone doing research about NONAME/NOBAMA. Here’s a very good link about people associated with him and supports him. This site is a great help for PUMA PAC documentary film.
ASSOCIATES OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.barackobamaassociates.info/
#77 Vonay~~~ TY
hi yes i think they all let their own personal ambitions get in the way they saw hillary could win without needing big money or help from any of them and therefore they were threatened by a strong candidate who wouldn’t have to return favours unlike the other candidate who was weak and would need to give so much favours in return for them giving him the nomination
Hi vonay, I probally missed you because of that page that drives me nuts, thats why I dont write alot, cause I never remember what I said lolol
#73 – Lara08:
Yes!!! Absolutely right on the mark!!!
As a real, born here Texican, I too resent those who come here from somewhere else and claim to represent the views of Texans!!!
But then, I resent all of those BO supporters who call us racists, old women, bitter people clinging to guns and religion, traitors, Republicans and much much worse!!!
I own my vote.. which reminds me.. if you haven’t already, please go to the site and sign this.
http://iownmyvote.com/
72 BarbNOBO
Thanks, I was trying to find it….I’ve been trying to save everything in my favorites, but my favorites are now so long it takes me forever to get to anything.
also on the puma doc you could do interviews maybe with alice palmer the other woman who bo kicked off the roll.
#78 Obama can’t make it on his own. I am sure Hillary has gotten pressured into getting out there for him. I believe the DNC may be concerned. Poll #’s are not as they thought and most of us are standing our ground. I think I will wear my Hillary 08 shirt and take a PUMA sign to one of the rallys. Is there anything illegal about handing out PUMA flyers at one of the event’s?
and draw the similarities between her and hill. alice was a civil rights activist apparently and she was also kicked off even tho she had credibility and had actually fought for people and their civil rights
what exactly did Obama say about Isreal liking Isreal, I tried to tell my friend , the one whos going to be checking us out, but I couldnt remember it
TREEPUMA
Okay, this is typical from CNN. I usually typed “Beca”, today there is an article about “Where did Hillary go?”, I I added PUMA, and look what happened….
Beca/PUMA July 28th, 2008 12:55 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Is Hillary responsible for Obama’s presidential campaing? Leave her alone!
Just a quick note:
I think Nancy Pelosi is on Jon Stewart show tonight to proote her book.
Pa Dem – how can I get your email address so that I and 10 of my friends can send emails to the Jewish SUPERDELEGATES vote for Obama – if we can turn them against him – she will for sure be the nominee in Denver
Let her write it, we’ll just not buy it, she’ll never make the top 10 list lolol
#91 4hillinca Oh i know he can’t but it just makes me so mad his not doing this with any of the other back room boys just her and I hate it. When they endorsed him it was such a big deal with Media made it such a in your face Hillary but when all is said and done that don’t amount to shit (sorry) and she is the important one but they acted like she was something he wiped off his shoes but now they need her,now the truth comes out she is the most important person. Sorry i’m just getting worked up again I’ll just watch my soap operas and cool off.
Petition for putting Senator’s Clinton in for nomination
#37 Prowland
According to the delegate, Ray, that Murphy interviewed, a petition is well on it’s way to being signed by her delegates. The minimum they need is 300 and I think I read that the maximum is 600 signatures.
The reason they are having their signatures notarized is because “it” forced out one woman from the Senate race from Chicago and another guy from a different political race. He CHALLENGED every signature they had, thus making their lives miserable and they were “forced” out of the race. They want to make sure he can’t do the same thing to Senator Clinton so the delegates are covering themselves by getting their sigs. notarized.
Ray did not say how many signatures they had as they don’t want “it” to have any idea how many there are already. He also said the DNC is int the red by $11 million and since “it” has the money, he is deciding everything for the convention.
It is going to be funny when Senator Clinton gives her nomination acceptance speech at Invesco field. Hee Hee
Ray also said, keep writing the letters, making phone calls, etc. They ARE being heard. Keep sending them throughout the convention, as well. The more the better!
LOL I wrote to Tom McMahon and I got a email back saying donate $5.oo and you may be selected to join Obama in open convention LOLIsnt this still illegal??
(202) 225-7854
Fax number for Maxine Waters!!!
#97 tree
Thank you! I 100% with you on this.
#98 slyt2
They want Hillary to drag us into voting for BHO. I say NO DEAL!!!
99 Diva 2 This is what I have been asking why dont we do it too. Challanging every new voter we can from primary and now. Check everyone if we could.We know t hey have been putting in dead names etc. Maybe if we made noise now might shake them before convention.
http://www.together4us.com/
please sign the petition.
Re: #86 lotts1948
Thanks. I’ve lived in many places in the U.S. and abroad, so it’s not like I’ve had a very limited life and have no knowledge of a world outside of TX. The reasons why Texans are moderates are complex, but it isn’t because we are too stupid to be radical leftists. We realize that you don’t respond to hate with hate (like Rev. Wright). That’s like pouring gasoline on a fire. For those of you who haven’t visited Texas you should know that the reason we’ve had Republican governors and produced the Bush dynasty (and by the way, they aren’t from TX either-that’s just a publicity stunt) is because the state Democratic Party hasn’t been run well. Now the Dem state party leaders have sold their soul to the BO campaign in the hopes of brining the Chicago-style political machine to TX to therefore give the Dems more power. I want a Dem governor and legislators, but I will never accept Chicago-style politics here and neither will other Texans. I’ve lived in the Chicago area and their world-view and political history is different from ours. I can’t see how Texans would be convinced that they should accept this kind of corruption here. I really wish former TX governor Ann Richards were alive today. I know she would have supported HC in a major way and would have at least tried to stop this mess from happening.
Also, just read this article:
“Yet Another Clinton Delegate Won’t Vote for Obama”
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/28/yet-another-clinton-delegate-won’t-vote-for-obama/#more-3838
-Lara08
More truth.
200,000 . . . or 20,000? Obama’s Crowd in Berlin
John Rosenthal 25 Jul 2008
WPR Blog
“Obama Addresses 200,000 in Berlin” — thus ran the AP headline the day after Barack Obama’s much-hyped speech in front of Berlin’s Siegessäule or “Victory Column.” This 200,000 figure has quickly become the standard estimate of the crowd for Obama’s speech in both the American and the German media: so standard indeed that it is for the most part not even treated as an estimate.
The estimates given by German public television ZDF actually during the event, however, were as little as one-tenth of that number. ZDF began its special “Obama in Berlin” coverage [German video] at 6:45 p.m. Central European Time: only 15 minutes before the candidate’s speech was scheduled to start. At the time, ZDF reporter Susanne Gelhard was out and about on the so-called “Fan Mile” between the Victory Column and the Brandenburg Gate. “The expectations were highly varied,” she said in her live report, “from a few thousand up to a million. Those were the estimates. But, now, several tens of thousands have turned out.” Barely five minutes before the speech was supposed to start, ZDF Berlin studio chief Peter Frey added, “We do estimate that 20,000 [literally, "a couple of ten thousand"] people have turned out.” Frey’s tone, like that of Gelhard, reflected the gap between the relatively modest number cited and the lofty predictions that had preceded the event. Moreover, while the ZDF live images showed that the “Fan Mile” was indeed populated from one end to the other, they also appeared to reveal patches of thinness and pedestrian traffic flowing easily on the half of the boulevard closer to the Brandenburg Gate (i.e. furthest from the “Victory Column”).
And then: the candidate did not appear at the appointed time. Could his handlers have been disappointed by the turnout? Did they hope to buy time for more spectators to arrive? At this point, ZDF interrupted its special coverage and broke for the nightly news. When the coverage resumed some fifteen minutes later, ZDF host Claus Kleber promptly declared that there were “one hundred thousand” people on the Fan Mile. He then repeated the claim twice more in rapid succession — now, more precisely, “over one hundred thousand people” — as if repetition could somehow cover up the glaring discrepancy between this number and the number cited by his colleague Frey only 20 minutes earlier.
Minutes later, Obama was on stage. And a half hour after that, he was gone again. By 8 p.m. — as the crowd filed out, obediently following the order to disperse given over the loud-speaker system — the number being cited had grown to fully 200,000. As this German timeline indicates, the original source for the rapidly growing estimates was in fact the rally organizers: i.e. the Obama team. The 200,000 figure would also be attributed to the Berlin police — which might represent the first time in modern history that the police and the organizers of a political rally agreed on their estimates of crowd size.
As the Berlin-based writer Christian J. Heinrich notes: “During the big anti-Bush demonstration after the fall of Baghdad, there were 250,000 people. And it looked totally different from yesterday. Then, you couldn’t move all the way from the Brandenburg Gate to the Technical University [on the western side of Tiergarten park, another kilometer beyond the Siegessäule].”
To response from above poster – Yesterday found out that 80 superdelegates are Jewish – all of them have supported Precious – Pa Dem got all of their email information from Trish – and Pa Dem was inviting those of us that wanted to work on her prowl of sending emails to them – for me I am going to question them by saying how could they give Precious their vote at the convention – its a disgrace what he did to “our” faith – are you turning your back on your own??? I think if enough of us – went there with them – they would at least think twice – if they don’t care what their constituents think – and many didn’t – at least they will still want to be in good graces with their faith.
Check out the make your own Obama logos on Uppity Woman…they’re a hoot…
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
104 my husband and I both signed it before keep it going.
Hi tree good to see ya
101 hillaryistheone
Thank you. I have a few words for Ms. Waters.
when is HILLARY´s birthday??????????
correction: I meant #88 lotts1948
PaDem – Let me know if you want help organizing anything related to our prowl on the Jewish SD’s. I sent you an e-mail the address you posted last night. You can reply to me there with any help you need.
Trish – I sent you an e-mail re: updated contact info for an SD.
#103 Jane-PA
The difference being, the one from the delegates will ensure her getting her name into nomination. One that Hilllary supporters (us, et al,) would be another form of writing letters, phone calls , etc. So it would great to keep the pressure on all the delegates, through any of those means and like everything else suggested by Murphy, WILL help.
NOISE, NOISE, NOISE!!!
#98 I understand your frustration. There is absolutely no way I can vote for BO and sleep at night. Our voices are being heard! The DNC is again using Hillary, but she is a very smart woman and she has only “suspended”. I have visions of her campaigning and giving her acceptance speech in November. Hillary 08
#89 1gypsy4mc
“72 BarbNOBO
Thanks, I was trying to find it….I’ve been trying to save everything in my favorites, but my favorites are now so long it takes me forever to get to anything.”
You might want to try my trick. I’ve got a Text file titled BO related links. Instead of accumulating all the links in my favorites… I copy and paste the links in the text file with a brief description of the link (that I can make use of when I need to do searches on keywords to find it quickly). I also add the date for each day before pasting the links found on that day. This gives me the flexibility to search by date too if I know what date the link was found.
From this text file — I can open and do Ctrl+F to pull up a quick search box and type a keyword to find my links quickly. This avoids cluttering up my favorites with all this information and helps to retrieve quickly. Just a suggestion.
Who is this Maxine Waters I must have missed that conversation..
I read in yesterday’s NY Post that in her book, Nancy doesn’t mention Hillary’s run at all – her position being presented as the pinnacle for women in this country – I think they had a title – Nancy snubs Hil.
So I sent some more money to Cindy Sheehan
http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
I read an article yesterday about nobama’s rock concert in Germany. What the media failed to tell us is that they had advertised a free rock concert for the people, and that is why over 200 thous showed up. Most of you wonderful informed puma’s probably already know this. But I have been a little behind as of late due to the death in my family. Anyway, just more damn propaganda for the second coming of CHRIST !!
I am just so angered at the damn MEDIA, and the DNC, that I could just explode !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbzT2YqhGT4 posted this earlier. maybe most have seen it. But it is a video I watch frequently to motivate and keep me focused..The audacity of the media ! the audacity of the DNC!! and the audacity of the people in this nation !!
DIVA2 – I have heard that over and over again – myself – keep on the superdelgates – as my above post mentioned if we could pressure the 80 Obama Jewish delegates to switch along with what she already has – she WILL be the nominee. Help us everyone. Help us.
93.. i think it went like this Isreal will always be Isreals friend.
Anna7000 – do you have the email that Pa Dem posted yesterday – could not find it again – I and 10 of my friends want to send the Jewish Superdelegates an email “requesting” they switch from Precious. Thanks.
MURPHY @@@ I was unable to attend last weeks Denver group meeting here in Asheville. But I will be there this Thursday night. I will write you with the details after the meeting. I hope to get a good count of everyone from here who will be traveling to Denver.
#91 4hillinca
“#78 Obama can’t make it on his own. I am sure Hillary has gotten pressured into getting out there for him. ”
If you read the article carefully — it sounds like she’s using her work in the Senate to explain why she hasn’t had time to campaign for him. The article also says that she will certainly campaign and help as soon as she has her Senate work calendar freed up. Sounds to me like the article is trying to make it sound like she’ll be campaigning soon… but she’s smart… and there’s not really a commitment there if you read closely.
Just a note about the 200 thousand in Germany, according to Obama WTF – Germany reported 20,000 people showed up for the beer and concert. Our MSM upped that number to 200,000.
Rodham in Flag ……..Can we get that list of the Jewish delegates ?? I want to get that started immediatly..
Hillary’s birthday is October 26th.
99 he also said even if they say the same theing ( the emails )
glad you explained better than i could…i forgot who asked…..
I have sent letters to day trying to scare Dean
mcmahont@dnc.org < deans right hand man
I can’t forget Hillary’s b-day. It is also my mothers..
Here’s a link to a great article. You can pretty much find at least one, if not several, well researched critiques of Obama any day of the week at American Thinker. This one today is just one among hundreds of examples. And, there’s a comment section if you want to respond at the end of the piece:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/the_operative_term_is_hubris.html
October
I received the petition below from Hillpac. Please read and sign the petition and send it to as many people as you can.
http://www.hillpac.com/action/hhspetition/?sc=2494
#122 rodham – i think the e-mail is padempuma@gmail.com
check this out http://www.celebratehillary.com/
#117 slyt2
Go back up top and read her statement…if it doesn’t make you fume….you are not amoung the living!!
I just sent a fax and gave her a piece of my mind.
Your 1-page fax to Maxine Waters at 2022257854 has been sent successfully.
Not Hillary, not anyone could convince me to vote for him. I just don’t understand how, if anyone investigates his proposals and intended policies, that they could vote for him. Unless they are a bunch of uneducated people without the capacity to look beyond the surface of things.
Notyoursweetie – Given your name, thought you’d appreciate this article:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/barry_honey_can_we_talk.html
#81 antifish
That top ten things was grate! Coolness
all i can find
http://www.forward.com/articles/12998/
Dozens of Jewish Super-Delegates May Hold Key to Democratic Race
Another request for money, second today,time to let them know no way, this one was titled a special invitation from Barack Obama
#106, antifish
without information one could see how it would happens
you could predict what his is about to do , actually it looks like if he is following “the manual of the good totalitarian”
all dictators love mass meetings, they either force the people to assit, or have other events which would draw people to assist, plenty food, the case would that it would came on the media as huge event
berlin´s mayor is from the communist party, thus he was a big help in the farce, he & guffy´s team probalbly contacted underground movements+ the concert, etc
I hope beliners do not vote this guy in next elections for the missuse of the city funds(police etc)
HI jane, hope all is well with you
TREEPUMA
#122 Rodham in Flag and Anna7000
Don’t forget to include the links to the Wailing Wall story when emailing the Jewish Delegates. I sent off some emails to some Rabbis last night and will send off more emails after work tonight.
KENDALLBLUE – I posted the list – Pa Dem said that she got all the information on where to send – and now THANK YOU ANNA7000 posted the email for Pa Dem -
she wanted everyone interested to send her an email and she would forward the list to them to work from – which is what I will be doing now – THANKS FOR YOUR HELP KENDALL BLUE – if everyone else here would do that – it would make a difference this August.
Also in respect to all the distorted information that we can prove against the MSM – could not all of us as a prowl send a complaint to the FCC regarding misrepresentation – I did that regarding AP posting it was over before SD and Montana – noticed that a couple of other posters had said they had done the same thing – but numbers speak – rather than a 5 or 6 people. Just my own opinion – but I THINK I AM RIGHT LOL
Oh KENDALBLUE thank you sooooo much I have been looking for this video forever.
#122 Rodham
I have twice sent you a reponse but they won’t go through. Maybe this one will.
May I suggest you use the word “URGE” them (delegates) to vote for Senator Clinton in Denver or change their vote to her. My brother, the lobbyist used tis word alot when sending your letters, fax, emails (no snail mail). THESE DO work. NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS on the # of letters, faxes, emails, phone calls, etc. These WILL get their attention. The more the better! Remind the delegates that you are confident that she will have met the requirements for her name to be put into nomination.
NOISE, NOISE, NOISE!!
OOPS KENDALLBLUE – Look at Post #133 for PA DEM email addy for the Jewish Superdelegates
Terry McAuliffe is saying Hillary will be speaking on Tuesday night at the convention.
Thanks DIVA for the advice URGE it is
I replied with a special invitation of my own :
I have a special invitation for Barack Obama, step down and let the real canadate Hillary Rodham Clinton take her place as the nominee since she is the real winner the one 18 million want for president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
thank you
for birth date
122
http://www.forward.com/articles/12998/ they are on there ( list of jewish delegates )
#143MZEBEST – I am sure that Pa Dem has them but if not do you have them handy right now so I can copy and paste – thanks -
150 will the real Democratic nominee please stand up !!
Thanks prowlland – thats where I found them via Google – but Pa Dem has the actual email addresses for all of them
#154 prowlland
Hillary gets up
#128 Prowland
Keep writing to Dean, etc. but a heads up, the DNC is $11 million in the red and are broke. So guffy is running everything now, cuz he has the $$.
I can’t wait for Senator Clinton to give her acceptance speech at Invesco field!! MO will be furious. Hee Hee
Prowland, Thank you very much, and yes I screwed it up lol, this time however, I’m going to write it down, it makes me laugh when it gets to be a bad day
TREEPUMA
WONDERFUL – MZEBEST – you go for the voters and we will go for the superdelegates and double team them
they must have mo hog tied, she has been to quiet
diva2 – lots of us have had problems getting our posts to post. try this:
after you hit the “submit” button, hit it again after a second or two.
156,,,,and we go crazy with appause PUMA power !!!
#153 Rodham in Flag
“#143MZEBEST – I am sure that Pa Dem has them but if not do you have them handy right now so I can copy and paste – thanks -”
Here ya go… good thing I had them handy in my email account.
http://whatsuddenly.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-gave-media-his-western-wall-note.html
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1005882.html
Rodham in Flag @@@@@@@@@@A prowl complaint to the FCC is a great idea !! And thanks for the info..
I keep seeing the following posted many times that states:
“I can’t wait for Senator Clinton to give her acceptance speech at Invesco field!! MO will be furious. Hee Hee”
While I understand the excitement intended in this thought… I honestly don’t want Clinton to have anything to do with Invesco field… that’s a BO ego trip thing. I want her speech to be at the Pepsi Center and the DNC recoup the wasted money for Invesco. Just my opinion. Anything that BO has touched seems creepy to me.
#161 Anna7000
Thanks
163
heheheheh
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1005882.html
Excellent post on top Murphy and Maryland, its important to keep everyone here focused on what our purpose it. And those replies to well intentioned e-mails are what we should be focused on. Getting the word out to the voters exactly who they voted for in their state elections. And to ensure the public know what kind of government will be running their wonderful country if Bo wins.
We can watch all the polls we want, we can discuss newspaper articles til we’re blue in the face but we only have a limited time to reach people, get them fired up and get them questioning their representatives.
Every person who reads the intro to this blog should be angry, pissed off and fighting.
Get out there people and tell everyone you know what is coming down the pipeline in November. Tell your friends to tell their friends.
It’s time for more action and less discussion.
#163 – MZEBEST – Way Kewl – thank you so much
PaDem and anyone else involved in organizing a group prowl to Jewish Sd’s, I gotta go and won’t be back on line for a while, but if you post anything related to this that I should read, please type a heading in upper case or bold or something so I can find it easily when I get back to my computer. Thanks!
165…your right, but the thougth of it makes me smile !!
#161 Anna7000
“diva2 – lots of us have had problems getting our posts to post. try this:”
Before I hit the Submit button I would like to suggest that everyone memorize three keyboard shortcuts.
Ctrl + A = Selects ALL text
Ctrl + C = Copies the selected text
Ctrl + V = Pastes the text
So before hitting submit… do the first two keyboard shortcuts… then hit the Submit button. If the page error pops up… log back on and then click in the Comment box and do Ctrl + V to paste the copied message and hit Submit again.
Trish – Just read your post as I was about to leave…wondering if any of those disgusting e-mail responses are going to be put into press release form and sent to the press.
For inspiration, check out Ani from NoQuarters intelligent and heartfelt article on Hireheels.com.
Mzebest or anyone who had discussed creating an email of BO facts to mass mail to everyday folks – is anything in the works?
mzebest – real quick. forgot to respond to an earlier post of yours. yes, i think that one way or another when we contact the jewish sd’s we need to make sure what we’re claiming is corroborated. i thought perhaps of simply excepting something from the media that shows that what we’re saying obama did is something he indeed did do. but, including a link to an article is another great idea.
gotta go —
#165 mzebest on 07.28.08 at 2:45 pm
[[“I can’t wait for Senator Clinton to give her acceptance speech at Invesco field!! MO will be furious. Hee Hee”
While I understand the excitement intended in this thought… I honestly don’t want Clinton to have anything to do with Invesco field… that’s a BO ego trip thing. I want her speech to be at the Pepsi Center and the DNC recoup the wasted money for Invesco. Just my opinion. Anything that BO has touched seems creepy to me.]]
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I can’t decide which option I like best …
Option 1: Hillary starts her acceptance speech at Invesco Field by thanking Obama for inviting and funding such a huge audience to witness this stupendous moment.
Option 2: The speech is moved back to Pepsi Center and Hillary makes a point of saying that her decision reflects her more fiscally responsible approach to running the country.
It’s 3:00 general Hospital is on .. talk to everyone later.. take care
#176 Firebelle Puma
LOL! I like Option 2 the best… that’s the one that put a huge smile on my face. Remember… BO plans to fill Invesco field with all his BO supporters… so Option 2 is friendlier territory too (and probably more neutral territory).
Heres a soap opera for obama ” As the stomach churns”
#179 mijabsnji
LMAO
#180 mzebest
he can have it treated at general hospital except he is terminal.
me too
Be back in about an hour folks…
#180 Mzebest, do you know if any movement has been made on compiling a list of BO bad deeds and facts to send in a mass mailing?
#176 Firebelle Puma
I agree, Senator Clinton would probably prefer Pepsi Center but I recently heard how incredibly difficult for the change to Invesco has been, especially for secret service. It is really complicated and they had been working on the Pepsi Center for many months, so this change has not been favorably accepted, so my feeling is that it will be literallly impossible, logistically, to change it back to the P.Center.
I feel that from this point, we all need to be thinking only about Denver and “seeing” Hillary getting the vote and giving her acceptance speech. I don’t even think we need to talk about November except Senator Clinton going up agains McCain. Keep thinking of good
Options as to what you invision
Obama now says that people making 100,000 to 250,000 are middle class. That is an insult of the highest kind. That isn’t middle class, that is lower upper class. Middle class is usually 50,000 to 100,000. Obama is so disgusting. Does that mean if you make less than 100,000 you’re poor. Maybe if you buy 600 dollar earrings with a stimulus check. I hate OBAMA. PUMAPOWER!!!
#178 mzebest … Yeah, I like Option 2 better.
#179 mijabsnji … Good one.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/28/yet-another-clinton-delegate-won%e2%80%99t-vote-for-obama/
Yet another Clinton delegate won’t vote for Obama
#183 Laurey4Hill
Don’t know of any effort along those lines yet. But gosh… the list of his bad deeds is soooo long. Wouldn’t it be easier to list his good deeds… “NONE TO DATE — KEEP CHECKING BACK FOR UPDATES”
#185 andy85719
I can’t stand him either, you should hear me when he comes on,I sound worse then a drunken sailor and shoot the bird with both hands then change the channel after many evil thoughts!
#184 diva2 … I’ll be happy no matter where Hillary gives her acceptance speech.
MO is a key to Obummer’s true intentions. Everytime she opens her mouth she drives another nail in his political coffin so they have her muzzled.
This is from Real Clear Politics:
Republican presidential candidate John McCain moved from being behind by 6 points among “likely” voters a month ago to a 4-point lead over Democrat Barack Obama among that group in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll. McCain still trails slightly among the broader universe of “registered” voters. By both measures, the race is tight.
The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45% among voters that Gallup believes are most likely to go to the polls in November. In late June, he was behind among likely voters, 50%-44%.
#183 Laurey4Hill
We could keep score good deeds 0 bad- a bizillion
Ooops…forgot to add that I got that info from the bitter politicz blog.
We need to be sending copies of these e-mails to major news media, ESPECIALLY Fox News. I’m sure Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity will eat this stuff up. A good subject line would be “Democratic Party Insulting Democratic Voters”. I mean, I was STUNNED when I read this.
Ben Johnson using a rhyme that I honest-to-God haven’t heard since I was 8, Amy Everhart calling a voter a “loser”, and Maxine Waters basically calling every PUMA a divorced housewife with nothing better to do. This is what is ruining the Democratic party.
Make sure you go to Tom in Paine-excellent article and video on superdelegates-Don Fowler explains
#187 mpk
thx for the link – niiiccceeee, it’s nice to see not all delegates are spineless!
Woohoo
Does anyone have a credible link to BO’s leaking his own prayer to the media before he placed it in the wall?
I have been looking all over but have not found anything. Just things about that student.
I wonder if anyone has ever considered giving psychological tests to candidates to determine their fitness to lead the country. No way could Obama pass it with his egomania and narcissism and God only knows what else. Since he always represents himself as ‘black’ he must have some serious resentment about his mother being white, which will only perpetuate the divisiveness of his campaign.
LOONG Update from above — more lovely responses from our “Leaders” from those whose responsibility it is to represent the voice of the voters at the national level (Thank you to mp and everyone who forwarded their responses):
“The racist bullshit I have gotten from my fellow Clinton supporters has been enough to make me puke. You have a choice. No one would be forcing you. It is a choice. A choice you will have to live with. 100 years in Iraq if McCain gets elected. Thousands more dead American Soldiers.” — from Garry S. Shay, Member, DNC (CA) and Lead Chair Rules Committee, California Democratic Party, to a Democratic voter from California, July 18, 2008.
“Man, you have to chill. Try tennis!” — from Dwight Pelz, WA State Democratic Party Chair and Super Delegate, to a Democratic voter in Maryland in response to an email she sent requesting an open convention and roll call vote, on July 18, 2008.
“Good for you, when the fascists come in the middle of the night to take you to a concentration camp, remember how you voted. Take me off your whiner list . . .then tell them to stop calling me telling me that they are going to vote for mccain. i am would rather vote for a rabid dog than any Fascist republican like mccain. read the declaration of independence.” — from Steven Ybarra, a California Super Delegate, in response to a letter from a Democratic voter, July 8, 2008.
“When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.” — from Ben Johnson, member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, to Sherry, a Democratic voter from Michigan, July 7, 2008.
“Having Senator Clinton’s name on a roll call without having the votes would just embarrass her, waste time, and make people agonize over nothing. I find it difficult to believe that this organization is not an undercover McCain operation. If you want to be productive, advocate for Senator Obama to choose Senator Clinton as his running mate.” — from Patti Higgins, Alaska State Party Chair and Superdelegate, to a Democratic voter who asked that she ensure an open convention and roll call vote for all the delegates, July 18, 2008.
“GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!
Do not email us again. Thank you.” — from Carolyn Warner, Arizona Super Delegate and former state senator, to a Democratic voter who requested that she help make sure that the Convention includes an open roll call vote as in years’ past, July 18, 2008.
Attacking Obama’s Economic Plan
Dear Pumas,
I posted this yesterday, but some of you weren’t on the blog then and might not have seen it.
I’ve drafted a letter I plan to send to some of the media personnel (e.g., Lou Dobbs, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Charles Krauthammer) who are willing to speak up against Obama.
With a little bit of editing, this letter can also be sent to superdelegates with encouragement to vote for Hillary at the convention.
Please feel free to copy anything from this letter that you might want to use in your own efforts.
I welcome any suggestions you have for improvement (firebellepuma at gmail.com).
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Dear Mr. ___ (or Ms. _____)
I’m writing to you because you’re one of the few media personalities with the intelligence and integrity to report the truth about Barack Obama.
If Obama were to become President of the United States, it would be an economic disaster far worse than we’ve experienced under President Bush or any other leader. I’m hoping you have the courage to show this to American voters.
I’m not knowledgeable enough to understand everything in Obama’s economic plan or to compare the plans put forth by each of the candidates. Nor would I necessarily trust the well-crafted marketing documents posted on their web sites. These “plans” are little more than campaign promises, not a crystal ball into an economic future affected by numerous external factors a President has little control over.
However, as a taxpayer and as a self-employed business owner with perhaps a little more common sense than the average bear, I can readily see Barack Obama’s reckless spending habits and predict what it means to America should he ever become President.
I hope that if I share these thoughts with you, you’ll take the idea and run with it. I don’t have the expertise to do justice to this idea, but you do. And you have the vehicle to communicate it to voters.
My concerns about Obama’s economic plan began when I saw how he would outspend Hillary Clinton by two-, three-, or four-to-one during the primaries, but Hillary consistently got more votes per dollars spent. Although Hillary has often been criticized for her campaign debt, no one can argue that she “did more with less.” Even John McCain, who was almost counted out last summer, came roaring back to win his party’s nomination on a shoestring budget. McCain, too, did more with less.
My own economic health depends on making wise choices that allow me to keep more of my money. I can’t be successful if I’m spending two, three, or four times what someone else would pay for comparable results. Yet that’s what Barack Obama does … and presumably what he would do with taxpayer money should he become President. He’ll spend our money recklessly, as is common with people who suddenly come into unearned wealth, then raise everyone’s taxes to pay for his indiscretions.
Am I judging him too harshly? I don’t think so. The Obama campaign has often made a big deal of how he was able to raise a tremendous amount of money mostly through small donations. To me, that’s code for how he plans to finance programs in the future. If millions of ordinary people are willing to repeatedly make small donations to finance his campaign, it follows that millions more should be willing to keep making small donations (i.e., pay a little more in taxes each month) to implement whatever program he’s currently trying to sell us.
If Obama doesn’t tax us directly, he’ll do so indirectly, such as through a fuel tax hike to pay for new pathways to energy independence. It doesn’t take a crystal ball to see how this snake oil salesman will pander to other lawmakers under his spell to get such things through Congress.
It’s also easy to see that there’s no limit to how much Obama will spend to feed his ego. For example, there was the fake Presidential seal that Obama had to quickly dump after all the negative publicity. More recently, it was the $300,000 he spent to repaint his airplane. And for what? Whom did it benefit? What did that costly modification do for Americans that the original paint job didn’t accomplish just as well?
Worst of all is this obscenely expensive overseas publicity stunt. If Obama were being a fiscally conservative bipartisan leader, he would have accompanied John McCain on a joint fact-finding mission, splitting the expenses with his opponent. That would have demonstrated a willingness and ability to reach across the aisle for a win-win solution. It would have demonstrated a commitment to restoring our own economy instead of wasting billions in Iraq. Instead, Obama proved that he has worse judgment than even our current President.
And who is paying for this obscenely expensive overseas publicity stunt? We are. I don’t know how much of it is being paid for by campaign donations versus tax dollars. But does it matter? One way or another, it’s all coming out of our pockets. And one way or another, it’s driving up our national debt. Surely we didn’t budget for unforeseen expenses, such as the unparalleled Secret Service protection now needed for this buffoon. What nation is loaning us the money to cover that until we can recoup the loss through higher taxes?
Meanwhile, Obama refuses to do the comparatively low-cost things that would have a greater impact on this campaign. For example, look at how much negative publicity he’s getting because he canceled plans to visit wounded soldiers in Germany. Bad choice.
And then there’s my favorite: Obama’s refusal to do the weekly town hall debates that John McCain keeps asking for. How can I evaluate the candidates side-by-side, answering the same questions, when Obama refuses to debate John McCain? Surely, this relatively low-budget “campaign appearance” is worth doing … and something voters are entitled to.
In fact, Obama’s refusal to debate John McCain tells me far more about Obama than he realizes. It tells me that this man who repeatedly said “I welcome that debate with John McCain” during the primaries is not a man of his word. It tells me that he’s not someone who can or will reach across the aisle to work with Republicans. It tells me that he doesn’t believe in transparency in government. It tells me that he’s uncertain of his own stated policies and that he lacks the conviction to debate them with people who would challenge his judgment. It tells me that Obama is afraid to speak without a teleprompter and the scripted words of his speechwriters. Obama’s refusal to do this simple, expected, and relatively low-cost campaign effort reinforces everything I believe about the man being all flash and no substance.
I wish that I were economically savvy enough to present my argument more effectively. I hope that I’ve presented it effectively enough that you can take it and run with it. These are simple, common sense points that any voter should be able to relate to, regardless of how well they understand the candidates’ economic plans. And they’re points based on evidence that economic advisers really can’t spin to make Obama look good. When voters listen not just to a candidate’s words but also to a candidate’s actions, they get a far more accurate picture of what the candidates believe.
Thank you for your consideration.
198 SHASTA
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1005882.html
I think this may be what you are looking for. Newspaper stated that he gave permission.
#188 mzebest
i agree
When I’m in an conversation about BO, I carry on until I’m bored with it and then I say, “you know, if you can just name one meaningful accomplishment for him (besides being born in a minority, which he can’t take any credit for anyway) I’ll be willing to listen.
Usually followed by silence, thoughtful stammering… uhmm…..conversation over.
“GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!”
What a lovely thing to say. So, now they’re out to kill us?
DNC/Obama/Denver 10 Million Short
The host committee is as much as $10 million short in fundraising, and financial difficulties have forced it to cancel two dozen parties for delegates. Denver officials are scrambling to deal with the logistical challenges of Barack Obama’s acceptance speech being held at an outdoor stadium instead of in the arena where the rest of the convention will take place. Even special daisies that the city bred partly to show off for the convention are failing to sprout.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
#198 shasta2001
I posted two links on the topic at post #163… those are the only links I know of at the moment… but if you find any more… please post them for me.
#198 shasta2001
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1005882.html
http://whatsuddenly.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-gave-media-his-western-wall-note.html
#132 Laurey4Hill – Just signed the petition and forwarded the link to my contact list.
#205 john
I LOOOOOBBBBEEEEE
Hello everybody !
Really I just CAN’T BELIEVE MY EYES !
Those people, you call “delegates” are supposed to represent voters… How can they lack respect in such a way ? How can they treat people who belong to the same party like that ?
I’ve read almost all the mail you have sent to these people : I have NEVER found such a tone, such a scorn, such insults.
I am disgusted ! Please don’t give up PUMAS ! Don’t give up !
Who said that the USA was a model of democracy for the rest of the world ???
“The White House has increased its estimate for next year’s deficit to nearly $490 billion, a record figure that will saddle the next president with deepening budget problems in his first year in office, a report due out Monday shows.” this is a copy of the headline at aol. i really think this is frightening and therefore a president with qualifications and experience is needed. how can people not see that hillary was right abt the tax on the extra-super rich since it was bushes laissez faire policies that allowed a few to get very very rich at the expense of the rest of the population. this is so scary its definitely not the time for another candidate like bush. i mean its crazy there should be a cap on the amount candidates are even allowed to spend on an election. hillary’s policies made so much sense she can save the economy i mean she and bill left the white house with a surplus in the budget. i don’t think obama or mccain could handle this type of challenge hillary is the one who could come up with innovative solutions to the problem. Bush inherited a $128 billion surplus from clintons time.
In every interview and every speech BO gives, he peppers his dialogue with “you know.” I tried counting the times he said “you know” a couple of nights ago, and I had to just turn the TV off.
I once had a really badass high school teacher who pounced on us, every time she asked us a question and we happened to utter one of those dreaded “you knows”: She would sternly say to us: “If I knew, I wouldn’t be asking you, would I?” Can someone please hire a dialogue coach for this person?!
Actually, in Junior’s case, I think that his “you knows” show that he finds the question irritating. In an adolescent sort of way.
re#185 andy..
I made a little over 100k last year and I feel almost poor…
Obama will put us all in the poorhouse
Thanks for the links, my Obamabot son woke up this morning complaining that someone had stolen Obummer’s prayer from the wall. I set him straight but needed the source!
guys this is a copy of an earlier post of mine. for ways to communicate with younger people on election issues go to http://www.yahoo.com and go to answers and signup if you don’t already have an account a lot of the younger people ages 18-31 asking questions abt O and M and the election and processes so one can post an answer or an opinion.
I make 45K and I can’t even afford to go to the movies!
What’s up with that?!
#214 shasta2001
Right on! – Just give them the facts! – They will start to wonder on their own.
#203 notfollowinthepiedpiper
LOL! I know exactly what you mean… and similarly if people ask me why I wouldn’t vote for BO… I feel there’s so many things to tell them that I’m often at a loss for where to begin.
#215 chrissieD
Is that link complete? It takes us to the main yahoo page. -Lara08
I sniff and say BO stinks
#212 writer4starz on 07.28.08 at 3:34 pm
[[In every interview and every speech BO gives, he peppers his dialogue with “you know.” ]]
… and salts his speech with “um,” “uh” and variations thereof.
And I thought listening to Bush speak was agonizing. Obama actually makes Bush sound intelligent.
#215 chrissieD
I see what you mean. I read your post too quickly.
204 piepiepie75
“GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!”
What a lovely thing to say. So, now they’re out to kill us?
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Lovely species, aren’t they?
While we’re in Denver, we’ll just fall into formation and create a phalanx around Murphy.
#212 writer4starz
LOL! And every time he starts a speech with “As I’ve said many times before…” — this means he’s about to tell us something completely new and it will contradict what he has stated previously but he wants us to think he’s said it many times before.
#208, Emme thank you for signing the position and sending the link to your contacts. This is so very important – particularly for women. The Bush legislation is getting very little play in the media, but Senator Clinton is fighting it – that is what she has been doing while BO closes for rock concerts.
If you missed the link:
http://www.hillpac.com/action/hhspetition/?sc=2494
Gods at work… heheheeh
“Even special daisies that the city bred partly to show off for the convention are failing to sprout.”
yes then on the left hand side theres a panel that says Answers click on this link or you can also go to
http://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFsNTBlcDVhBF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNmcF90cm91Z2gEc2xrA2Fuc3dlcnNsaW5r
this takes you to yahoo answers then sign up or login at the top of the page
re#216 mimi..
..life is not good now I agree it’s a constant struggle now just to buy gas,groceries and pay the bills…. I have a bad feeling were on the verge of a second great depression that will make 1929 look like a tea party..
now more than ever we need someone like Hillary as CIC who will be able to lead our country out of the disaster that looms ahead.. unfortunately at this point.. that person may be Obama
#211 chrissieD – “…this is so scary its definitely not the time for another candidate like bush.” I agree, and it’s frightening that O is more and more like Bush is oh so many ways every day. If Hillary isn’t the nominee, then I say vote for McCain (at that point, a vote for anyone other than McCain is a vote for O). Hold your nose if you must, but in the absence of Hillary, McCain is a far less frightening alternative than O.
We have just seen the start of the fall of the economy and America if things don’t change and fast.We are in bad straights.
a lot of people are asking questions in the general categories also you can choose to answer questions in the politics and government category or browse through the open questions until you get to one that is asking something abt O or M or H
#221 Firebelle Puma – “And I thought listening to Bush speak was agonizing. Obama actually makes Bush sound intelligent.” You’re so funny – AND right!
Just think of the people that are earning min wages….if they still have a job
If you’d like to comment:
“Obama Campaign Strives to Unify Texas Democrats”
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/07/26/0726texdems.html
Best,
Lara08
#225 Laurey4Hill – You’re so welcome. Thanks for the link!
In compiling the responses, the one thing I found in common about all of the letters we sent:
WE NEVER RAISED THE ISSUE OF RACE. EVER.
So many emails were sent that stated FACTS. And yet the delegates/superdelegates/leaders still accuse us of being racist or republican or bitter or uneducated or emotional or all female.
It truly alarms me that all voters don’t see this for what it is – a struggle for power in this country. It’s the power brokers against the voters.
Our anger comes from unfair treatment of a candidate by the party – not a gender or race. We’re angry that rules were broken and historic precedent is being ingnored. We’re angry at the slanderous and misogynistic and sexist categorization of our patriotic dissent. We’re angry at the lack of transparency and accountability in the Democratic Party.
WE’RE TIRED OF LOSING THE RACE YEAR AFTER YEAR because the Democratic Party FAILS to LEAD or FIGHT. The current leadership has put us in the loser’s position for two, and now three, elections because they don’t allow the democratic process to remain pure and definite, they indirectly promote one candidate over another in the primaries, and support officials that OVERTURN the will of their constituents by voting their wallet and career instead of their integrity and conscience.
Hillary Clinton was the flame that ignited the wildfire. The straw that broke the camel’s back. But this movement is not about HER. It’s not about OBAMA. It’s about putting the best person forward who can take the November election without effort.
We do not deserve this type of treatment from public officials. From this moment forward, I vow to work to make sure the elected officials are defeated when up for re-election. And for those who are appointed, look for me to be standing strong in opposition to your continued *service*.
re#230… sandi..
that’s true what you say…
I heard an interview of an economic expert who studies trends and he stated from US govt stats that over 72% of “baby boomers” do not have any savings or retirement benefits and that those 72% will be dependent on SSI when they reach retirement age… if we have a hyperinflationary type depression many of those 72% of baby boomers will be homeless,sick and starving to death..
yep emme i wish i could vote in the general elections but i’m not a citizen of the USA. i really hope hillary gets in. yes i agree O is like Bush Junior i mean hes also buying the elections and disenfranchising voters. its just that i know what you mean abt holding nose thing abt mccain even tho i can’t vote its just hillary is miles above them. its like choosing cupcakes or turnips when u could have caviar instead LOL
Our only hope for is for Hill to get the nom…. not sure she can pull it off after she get n …but I know she will do everything she can !
“100 years in Iraq if McCain gets elected.”
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Someone needs to inform this illustrious Democrat that Presidential terms are limited to two terms (4 years per term), 10 years under extenuating circumstances as defined by the US Constitution.
McCain will not be President for 100 years, therefore, the fear tactic of “100 years in Iraq” is without foundation.
those email should be published in the national and the local newspapers
the media should be impeach, they are keeping a national farce, they should be hold accountable for what they are doing
#224 mzebest
And there there’s his nauseating “Let me add one more thing.”
Please don’t.
#236 Maryland PUMA
Amen… outstanding letter!
this is one of the questions being asked abt O on page three of the politics and government section in yahoo answers: Is it possible to ask a question critical of Obama that doesn’t get removed?
#240 DANCES
you must understand, thier plans are almost like a coup d’etat
Is this legit or not?
Florida State Senator Is Dropping Lawsuit on Florida Delegates at Democratic National Convention
July 25th, 2008
“Florida State Senator Steven Geller is about to drop his lawsuit, Geller v Democratic National Committee, because the Obama campaign has assured him that Obama will ask that the full Florida delegation be seated, with a full vote for each delegate. The lawsuit had been filed on May 22, 2008, in federal court in Miami.”
http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/07/25/florida-state-senator-is-dropping-lawsuit-on-florida-delegates-at-democratic-national-convention/#comment-448488
Banf of America and Wells Fargo Bank have lost billions and now First Interstate Bank in Nevada and California went down.
#236 Maryland PUMA – “And yet the delegates/superdelegates/leaders still accuse us of being racist or republican or bitter or uneducated or emotional or all female.”
Hmmm…interesting. My husband and male co-workers are not Republican, or “bitter”, or uneducated, or “emotional”, or female. But they ARE outraged at how Hillary has been treated by Obama and his supporters and the media, to an extent that one of the younger guys (a registered Democrat) is seriously thinking about campaigning for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee!
Doesn’t make sense to me.
#242 Firebelle Puma
LMAO… he loves to hear himself talk.
Someone told me that Rush Limbaugh did a thing where he took one of his speeches (it might have been his Berlin speech) and removed everything but the Um’s and ahhs… and it was like 20 minutes of solid ummms and ahhhs… and stuttering.
#240 DancesWithPumas on 07.28.08 at 3:52 pm
[[McCain will not be President for 100 years, therefore, the fear tactic of “100 years in Iraq” is without foundation.]]
If we’re in Iraq for 100 years, it will be because of what Bush has already done in starting the war. No incoming President can undo the damage he did. Hopefully, the next President can set us on the right course. But it’s going to take far longer than four years or eight years to get there.
Why doesn’t McCain get more news coverage for meeting voters in the Supermart? another question abt the unfair news coverage on page three as well if you’ve got any answers go browse
I just remembered this – Denver was the home of the unsinkable Molly Brown. You can tour her home there.
We have our own Unsinkable – Senator Clinton.
I cut and pasted Why are These People in Charge? in its entirety and e-mailed to Senator Amy Klobuchar and Mn DFL State Party Chair Brian Melendez. Faxing to DFL ofc too.
St Paul Pioneer Press – Joe Soucheray – 7/26/08 “For those who believe anything, it’s easy to believe in Obama.”
i think there needs to be much more transparency tho in the system and politicians need to be accountable when they’ve made really bad decisions like bush and obama. bush on the war and obama on corruption in his own state that hes never resolved.
the ancient saying..”he who lives by the sword,dies by the sword”..sma ething could apply to Obama if he gets elected president..
when hes president he will have to make decisions and because we live in a zero-sum society..someones toes will be stepped especially in the area of pork barrel domestic economic policy,programs,appointments,contracts..etc etc….
if Obama shows partiality to one group or the other that could flame resentment and anger that could result in increased racial hostilities and hatred..
so Obama is playing a dangerous game that could backfire on him due to his election year 2008 racial con-game..
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/07/poll_magic_usa_todaygallup_has.html
Poll Magic – USA Today/Gallup has McCain up by 4
Posted by Jay Carney | July 28, 2008 3:59
More than 40 days and nights have passed since a credible polling outfit released a survey showing John McCain with even the smallest of leads in a national horserace poll. Now USA Today has a poll with Gallup that puts the Republican up by four points over Obama among likely voters. “Say again?” you ask. “Didn’t the Gallup daily tracking poll have Obama up by eight points today and nine points yesterday – the Democrat’s largest lead and one that presumably reflects a bounce from his successful overseas excursion?
Barbara Streisand on PUMA’s:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12091.html
You strongly supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination. Was switching to Sen. Barack Obama difficult?
We had a very deep bench of Democratic Presidential candidates in the primary, and we were very lucky to finally have two capable, dynamic and intelligent candidates vying to be the nominee. Supporting Sen. Obama for President was an immediate decision for me after Sen. Clinton ended her bid for the Democratic nomination. Throughout this process, they challenged each other to be better. It was a historical race, with Hillary breaking through that glass ceiling for all women and Barack inspiring young kids that they can overcome their circumstances to reach greatness.
Will you be doing any concerts to support Obama and the Democrats before the election?
I would absolutely consider performing for Sen. Obama and for the Democratic Party.
What do you say to Hillary’s fans that might be moving to vote for McCain — a figure that’s been estimated to be as high as 15 percent of her supporters?
I would urge those voters to take a step back and realize that our country is at an extremely serious crossroad . . . . There is too much at stake right now to elect another George W. Bush to the White House. And John McCain is just that. He has stated that the issue of economics is not something he’s understood as well as he should. He does not support reproductive rights for women, increased veteran’s benefits and ending the war in Iraq. There is just no reason for Sen. Clinton’s supporters not to back Sen. Obama.
Have you spoken with Obama? If so, what did you talk about?
I have met and spoken to Sen. Obama, but I don’t discuss my personal conversations with the media.
Which Clinton policies do you think Obama should embrace, and what role would you like to see her have in his administration should he be elected?
I would like to see him embrace her universal healthcare policy. But it is ultimately up to the two of them to decide whether she will be more effective as a leader in the Senate or if she should work in the Administration. She has years of experience in public service and her work serving the needs of children and poor and working class Americans is incredibly admirable.
#183 Laurey4Hill: Check out the following for long lists, including “27 Acts of Hypocrisy”:
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/07/bho-in-israel-american-jews-demand-to.html
http://www.timeblog.com/swampland/2008/07/poll_magic_usa_todaygallup_has.html
Thank you MaBe.
Heads up folks.
CNN just reported that they received a schedule for HRC to campaign on her own for BO in August. As for Bill Clinton, nothing yet.
Just letting you know that this may happen.
Good Lord. Look at the INSANITY of those letters from Party officials and SD’s at the top of this. This country is headed for the toilet.
TrishfromCanada
Trish, you’ve got mail.
The very day that Hillary begins campaigning for Obama will be the very day I switch my party affiliation to Republican.
Great rundown on Pumas protesting Dean in Atlanta over at riverdaughter’s place:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/atlanta-pumas-show-dean-some-southern-hospitality/
Go Southeast Pumas!!
re#265 MS..
i hear ya..
sort of gives credence to the old saying..”never fall in love with a politician because they’ll break your heart every time”..
LMAO…you got to go look at the button of those two!!
Campaign buttons show Obama with Larry Craig
Posted: 01:30 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
An image of the mistaken button, courtesy of CNN affiliate KPVI.
(CNN) – Barack Obama likes to stress his willingness to work across party lines, but Republican Sen. Larry Craig probably isn’t the Illinois senator’s top choice when it comes to showcasing his bipartisan credentials.
But campaign buttons mistakenly featuring those two politicians surfaced over the weekend under the Obama campaign’s motto “Change You Can Believe In,” according to CNN Idaho affiliate KPVI.
The buttons, created by an Ohio-based company called Tigereye Design, was supposed to feature Obama alongside the Democratic Senate candidate in Idaho, Larry LaRocco. A retired editor for the Lewiston Tribune noticed the mistaken buttons and printed them in Sunday’s edition.
LaRocco’s campaign says the buttons weren’t ordered by them, but rather a commercial firm that sells campaign memorabilia.
Craig, who was arrested last year for allegedly soliciting sex in an airport men’s room, is not running for reelection.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
251 Firebelle Puma
I agree.
Look forward to seeing HC out again. She won’t change my mind though. People should go and see her speak so they can make note of what a really great presidential candidate looks like.
I won’t leave the Dem Party. They will have to kick me out. It’s the BO people who should leave. I am a Democrat and have always been one and I DO NOT SUPPORT BO.
-Lara08
re#268..ht1..
larry craig would do well in an “Obama cabinet”
#236 Maryland Puma, and others :
I agree with every single word of your letter, but I must admit I am a little worried as I have the impression that someone (I don’t know who ?) is trying to make people believe PUMA IS A RACIST GROUP.
I’m afraid this is an orchestrated campaign, as I have been the victim of this kind of accusation myself, even in France. Can you imagine how far it has gone ?
When Obama came to France last week, I posted a lot of comments, everywhere in the French media (to inform people here of your movement), and I received several answers, from French people, Americans, and Canadians, which were deeply insulting.
They told me I was writing stupid, inaccurate things simply because I was a racist, who wanted to prevent the election of an African American !! That ’s the first time in my life I have been called “racist” !
What I deeply regret is that sort of bad publicity which is being made against you, even here, because I think : whatever you say or write, or do, this image of a racist group will stick to any of your actions, and you will never, never be listened to, nor considered seriously. So you are bound to fail : you must clearly respond to those accusations publicly. I think it is URGENT !
Look at all major aspects of the economy are very depressed – gas/oil, housing, stock, inflation, $ value…
Pumas are Clinton democrats; we want the years of Clinton democrats’ glory years to be back. The above Demos are BAD examples; they do not work for American people.
Since he was in that nomination, not single good economic news. Please ask your self – if we can afford another few years of Bush (BO is as inexperienced as Bush), where is the confident if he is indeed the one to turn thing s around??
Pumas are working class democrats; we are the key of the society. We put food on the table. So please stay aside for the sake of the Country – wait till you can approve your self-first, until than Hillary is the ONE. We love you Hillary. BO, please quit now.
I read this with my mouth hanging open then I started to laugh this is tooooo funny and I had to share with you I would not believe this if I hadn’t read it myself. Please read
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0708/Study_Networks_tougher_on_Obama.html
I can’t believe that the people leading our nation can send back emails such as the ones listed above. What an insult to so many people. They have no integrity whatsoever, do you hear that obots!! No Integrity, no morals, no honor, no allegiance to anyone but themselves!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U
BE BACK LATER. BUT TAKE A LOOK !
Someone needs to check ou the CNN story about Hillary campaigning for Bo, so that we can counter the story if it is not true or is just spin of what she is really going to do.
#272 Delphinefromfrance.
Charges of racism are so common in the political sphere here that they really hold no water anymore. Haven’t for years to be truthful. Oh except with the young who haven’t had time enough to see it as a tactic thats been used for decades to stifle debate.
I’m sorry you have to hear that nonsense. It just shows me that precious is an infectious dis-ease. Expect a lot more of the same garbage.
I admire you for standing and telling the truth. Best wishes.
#272 delphinefromfrance
In part that’s why I keep emphasizing that I am a Democrat. I did not leave my Party, it left me. I am still the same liberal I was last summer, and that won’t change-but I will not support BO. I don’t know if we should spend time saying that we are not racists or just roll our eyes when they make these accusations. It’s usually white BO supporters who make this accusation and I am not white, so for them to call me a racist is so obscene that I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. We should discuss your idea though. -Lara08
re#272..DFF..
what’s the problem with the race baiters? if they are hassling you and you are not a racist then just tell them to go “f… off” or explain to them why they are the racists..depending on the person or people you are talking to..
..it’s as simple as that..
I do it and it works for me just fine..just smile..
#201 Firebelle Puma and #236 Maryland PUMA
*************
I really like the direction of your letter and comments. We should stay on facts and common issues.
PUMAs, the nobama supporters are trying to label us. In spite of interviews with Will Bower, Murphy, Heidi and Diane…they call this a group of white middle-age and senior women.
In spite of many Black and male supporters … they call this a group of white middle-age and senior women.
When we bring the diversity of this group to attention … they call this group republican and/or racist.
Delphine is right…the labeling is orchestrated. It’s the same thing that was done against Hillary.
Still, as someone pointed out in an earlier comment — nobama can only cry wolf so many times before people stop listening.
People are taking notice and listening to us.
free puma — #280 — I agree. that’s what i do — the accusation is baloney and intentionally aggressive and inflammatory.
delpnine it is a concerted effort:
http://yourblackworld.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/oreilly-vs-nas-color-of-change-moveonorg/
I celebrated Independence Day this year by putting out flyers and posters with PUMApac on them. The posters were handmade. Well, I expected that the posters would be up for just a day or so. It still would have been worth the trouble to post them for my own personal gratification in rebellion against our bias MSM. Well, wouldn’t you know it, there is at least one still up, the problem being that the red “PUMApac.org” had faded. So today I took my red marker and stood there and fixed it. P.U.M.A.
#201 Firebelle Puma and #236 Maryland PUMA,
You have recharged me. My goal is to write each and every superdelegate (again); in addition to the media. I’d like to somehow combine your letters.
Well gotta go.
These e-mails show me something I have been suspecting for years. The Democratic party is dead. This whole cycle has proven it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt.
The fact that “leaders” can speak in such a manner shows their arrogant belief in their own ability to orchestrate the elections we have. Their ability to control the members.
Well their strategy blew up this time.
They didn’t count on pumas now did they?
When this is over I do believe a new third party will emerge.
I told my father that back after super Tuesday.
That crusty old democrat argued then, no longer.
My father went to jail was beaten and harassed working for the dems in the south through the union movement during the fifties. As far he is concerned the Democratic party no longer exists.
re#281 sunny pa…
its true the Obama campaign has a powerful weapon which they are using to the max.. the “race card” and “white guilt”..
BUT, if you have logic and truth on your side those Obama cynical tactics can be turned around..
hit em where it hurts and knock em out with the truth!
Rev wright..michelle obama..farrakhan..obama himself..the list goes on and on..
they will run Away if you bring up those things..
#236 Maryland PUMA on 07.28.08 at 3:51 pm
In compiling the responses, the one thing I found in common about all of the letters we sent:
WE NEVER RAISED THE ISSUE OF RACE. EVER.
Well said Maryland puma…race has never been the issue but they keep playing the race card because all the cards they are holding are just jokers. We don’t need another joker in the Whitehouse for another 8 years.
Funny how the Obama supporters that are in high positions of the Democratic Pary never say he should win with their defense being experience nor integrity.
Obama Keep the Change Ad – Public Financing
Obama Keep the Change Ad – Public Financing
yay headclunker!
Has everyone visited our lovely new homepage?
http://www.pumapac.org
There is a link there to our also lovely new ACTION CENTER!
http://www.pumapac.org/action_center.html
Use it to download some flyers and cards — put them up around town!
What happened? I didn’t even get to post my link, it just jumped!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLdj2rVD9l4&featurel
262 BigCatLover
“Heads up folks. CNN just reported that they received a schedule for HRC to campaign on her own for BO in August. As for Bill Clinton, nothing yet”
CNN are the ones that posted the article too… and keep in mind that CNN is the one totally in the tank for BO… anything they report can’t be trusted in my book. They lie about poll numbers and facts — anything to help BO. Don’t sweat it.
Barbara Streisand lost me here: “There is too much at stake right now to elect another George W. Bush to the White House. And John McCain is just that.”
I immediately shut down and stop listening once someone says “McSame” or “Bush’s third term” or “100 years in Iraq.” They need new talking points because these are very ineffective. McCain, like him or not, is a war hero, was a POW for 5-6 years; served about 25 years in Congress; garnered the nickname “Maverick” because he crossed party lines and voted on his own. McCain acknowledges global warming–strong fighter for cause, which is a huge shock and disappointment to his conservative base in his party. Which is a good sign for democrats who are on the fence: If the conservative / religious / far right republicans have a problem with him…that’s a good thing! LOL.
People also like to point out that McCain’s voting is close to that of Bush’s lately. Ok. What about Obama voting for Bush’s FISA Bill, what about Obama voting for Dick Cheney’s Energy Bill? What about Obama shifting gears on NAFTA? What about Obama telling a Christian magazine that being “blue” is not a reason for late term abortion (which exposes a shockingly callous and ignorant understanding of mental / hormonal/ physiological health). What about Obama wanting to expand Bush’s faith based programs by pumping more money into them? (Something I perceive to be against separation of church and state–and a huger push to weed out science education, and pro-choice efforts, furthermore–what sort of churches would receive this money? Black liberation churches? With our money? I think not.) Beyond that, I think everytime someone like republican Hagel (guy who partially owns DIEBOLD voting machines) pops out to defend Obama, it is a WARNING SIGN. Run away from the supposedly progressive democrat that seems to have way too much in common with republicans. Better the enemy you know than one you do not.
PUMAs, keep up the great work. Let’s make some noise.
OH! Nice new ACTION CENTER and Homepage for Puma Pac!! I hadn’t seen that. Very nice!
Murphy, I sent you a couple of emails.
mp #236 — right on sister.
Many people might not know this, but Puma PAC’s membership is about 40% male. More of our bloggers are female, but the thousands of members who read and respond to our ACTION calls are split much more evenly.
not that there’s anything wrong with that! I mean heck, the new york times has been reporting that girls are now smarter than boys at math, so I want to make sure all the Puma PAC guys out there get their due!
#283 taggles1
Not much success. I went through about five of their stories and saw a total of one comment. Ignore them.
sunny — I replied to one — will look for the other
PUMA’s great job, I have been prowling and pouncing and licken my paws…..GROWL. All in all had a great day considering Lenny isn’t worth a bucket of donkey dung.
XXX
#293 mzebest
I’m well aware of CNN’s bias. Like I said in my post, it’s just a head’s up. Forewarned is forearmed.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1591487/20080724/nas.jhtml
I guess this is the back story to the fight between O’reilly and nas. This is the first I heard of it. Looks like all involved are being particularly insensitive and stupid.
Clintonsfor Mccain on Fox News
This is from the event I couldn’t get to Saturday due to construction:
Southeast PUMAs mentioned in GA political blog:
http://georgiaunfiltered.blogspot.com/2008/07/howard-dean-shirley-franklin-say.html
Howard Dean, Shirley Franklin Say Georgia Can Turn Blue
By noreply@blogger.com (Andre) on Democrats
In the parking lot of what used to be the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign’s state headquarters, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean brought his “Register for Change” bus tour to Atlanta where he was greeted by Mayor Shirley Franklin, state labor Commissioner Michael Thurmond, Congressman Hank Johnson and supporters of presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama (D – Illinois).
Mayor Franklin, who is a co-chair of the Democratic National Convention next month, said she was really excited to play a key role in Denver and also seemed to dismiss the conflicting Georgia polls that say the Peach State is both out of reach and in range for Sen. Obama.
“The only day that matters is Election Day,” Franklin said. “Gov. Dean promised a fifty state strategy and I am delighted to see an investment in Georgia.”
While most attending Saturday’s rally were backing Sen. Obama, a group of Hillary Clinton supporters staged a protest where they urged Gov. Dean to place the New York Senator’s name in nomination and hold a honest roll call vote in Denver.
The group calling themselves People United Means Action or PUMA held signs that said “Dump Dean” and “We want Hillary elected not O-Blah-Blah selected.”
“We are here to support democracy,” Decatur resident Aparna Garimella said. We want to have a fair, open election. Put Hillary’s name is nomination and have a fair roll call vote.”
Entering to the Kool and the Gang hit song “Celebration,” DNC Chairman Howard Dean asked the crowd gathered, “Who would have thought Georgia would be one the states we need to win?”
Dean then offered an apology of sorts to southern voters saying that the biggest mistake the Democratic Party made was not to come south and ask for votes.
“Georgia is a conservative state and the Republicans are about as un-conservative as you can get. You can’t trust Republicans with your money,” Dean said.
The Democrats’ national chairman also said presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain represents four more years of George W. Bush.
“We need jobs in rural America,” Dean said. We don’t need four more years of George W. Bush.”
After his speech, Gov. Dean said the Democratic Party intended to reach out to rural Georgia voters, evangelical Christians and folks who want to see a change. Dean also said that people in Georgia are excited to have a real campaign for the first time in fifteen years.
another update to the log:
“”What’s clear is much of this so called rage is being stirred not by Hillary, but those pretending to be her supporters. Stop the hate. You have totally disrespected the Senator with your emails. Stop the hate. Not sure if you know, but we are keeping copies of all these emails in the archives. Yes, you are not going to get away with pretending to be for Hillary. She is a leader of the Dem party.”
from Donna Brazile threatening Sharon, a Democratic voter, with retaliation for contacting her about the election, on June 8, 2008.”
Afternoon PUMA Family,
Been out all day with quarterly Dr Visits so catching up a bit. Have not gotten through all the posts but want to say one thing about Oprah. Going aways back when she stumped for Obama in LA it has always stuck with me that in her opening Oprah made a statement that she would not vote for someone just because she was a woman. Now I agree with that but what bothered me was that is where she left it. She made no comment to the effect of And I would also say that about a black candidate that the color of their skin is not reason enough to vote for someone. But she did not say that and to me she said a lot by what she did not say. Also I take polls with a grain of salt but glad to see USA Today / Gallup has McCain up by 4 points. The DNC’s selected candidate is sure on his down slide as expected and it will only get worst.
Personally I hope they keep bringing up the race card.
It won’t work. What it will do is make independents shift to McCain.
Oh thats already happening.
One of the main reasons people are independent is because of this race baiting nonsense. Being called a racist every time you oppose a politician of color is so common its meaningless.
Take it from your resident independent.
#298 About we time got some respect around here. (joke)
Maybe now obots will stop calling me menopausal.
#262 BigCatLover this morning on Morning Joe Terry M said Bill Clinton has been busy and he and Bill Clinton are heading to Africa something with Aids and something else I believe he said they or he will be gone 6 weeks
Hello Pumas, I just read an article at USA Today, it has Mccain up by 4 points over Obama. I never get copy and paste to work, sorry I can’t put the link here. Read it guys it is very interesting!
“We need jobs in rural America,” Dean said.
You mean Dean and O blah blah all of a suddent actually care about us bitter, bible carrying, gun-toting, racist rural folk? Flip-flopping AGAIN?
Well…we rural American voters in PA and WV & KY can’t hear you, voted 70-30 against O blah blah in the primaries, and will remember in November.
#272 delphinefromfrance
That’s the whole idea behind playing the race card. If they discredit the person giving criticism… then they figure they ultimately and essentially discredit and neutralize the criticism itself.
We are the ones we are waiting for…PUMA is the last chance this country has people.
After reading those quotes I am so mad I could eat nails. NO WAY. NO DEAL. NOBAMA.
We should refine our goals. Get Hillary on the nomination ballot, have her speak, have a roll call vote. If the supers do the RIGHT thing Hillary will win and we can work on the party with a big stick (I volunteer to whoop ass for the 4-5 years it will take). If they do the WRONG thing…
We need to start a new party. Bring in all like minded Independents, Republicans, Greens, etc., etc. Either that, or leave the country. The DNC is closer to the edge of not being able to come back to the table–ever closer that America–and I am not sure we can save her.
Hillary Clinton may need to decide if party allegiance is something she can live with. At this point, I do not think it is. At least not such that she can retain her integrity, without which she just becomes one of them.
re#306 murphy..
i hope that DB’s words are not a “preview of coming attractions” of an Obama administration..
a president has an extensive government apparatus at his disposal which can be used to get back and ruin it’s enemies..IRS edits,licenses,credentials,security clearances..PASSPORTS….Homeland security lists..etc etc..
it’s really scary…
Murphy, did we ever hear back from Gary about where to get the petitions or what the process is to get it to delegates?
Well, I’m an American first…..when I was growing up we were so very poor and I was called White Trash. Now that I have a degree, children, and grandchildren I’m being called a racist. NO! I’m an American and I want my country back!! And “it” isn’t a part of it!
#314 Jenni,
I will however do it with love.
If a new party is born out of this years farce, I may actually join. Of course I my stay an independent and cast my cynical eye towards all of you.
How I long for the day when being a woman or something being female is not negative. Just a bunch of angry females, just middle aged and old females, just women who had to stay at home, just hysterical women and on and on. Whenever you want to indicate that a group is worthless, just be sure to used the words females or women.
Once PUMAs accomplish our mission, and we will, I wonder if it will be because all the women went away?
I apologize for that ranting, but we shouldn’t even be talking about anything other than the Denver trip like Murphy said…but we “can” talk about how funny SnowTiger is. Again, my apologies to everyone.
#317 1gypsy
Rock on!!! I’m with you all the way. I want my country back from these tyrants. I aint leaving. I aint complying I aint backing down!!!!
Praise god and pass the ammo.
#310 slyt2
Good news. Leave it to Bill to slip the trap set by the BO campaign.
321 snowtiger
Keep us laughing, that something else they can’t have!!
I just watched a lady on Fox news representing Clinton’s for McCain her name was Christy and boy did she ever speak her mind .She said never no way would she ever vote for Obama even if Hillary was his VP she said he was inexperienced, dangerous, and so were his association’s said the only way she would vote democratic was if Hillary was at the top of the ticket and Nobama was no where near it. Do any of you know who she is?
This is a quote from the USA Today story.
“He says the number of likely GOP voters is up for now, probably in part because of Obama’s trip and the ‘laudatory’ media coverage of it. ‘At least in the short term it may have had the side effect of energizing Republicans,’ he says. Also, he says that McCain’s sharp words about Obama and the media last week may have energized his faithful.”
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/gains-for-mccai.html
BOs people don’t understand the power of having a light touch. The whole “Rainbow tour” was overkill. When you insult people’s intelligence (Euro tour) you anger them and strengthen their resolve against you. When you look down on people you can’t help but be condescending. BOs people can’t act otherwise because at the core that’s who they are. BO’s campaign will implode on its own. –Lara08
#321 Snowtiger
My ammo, you mean ammonia….right…..to use for smelling salts for the hopium?
PADEM – Sent you an email for the list of addys for Jewish Superdelegates – but it bounced back to me – what is your correct email address
MARYLAND PUMA – did you pick up Shane from Ireland yesteday for your list
I guess I just don’t understand Moveon’s involvement. I all parties to this side show leaves much to be desired.
#320 1gypsy,
I don’t think Murphy would mind us ranting and relaxing a little.
She never has and that is usually all I do here and have never been told not to. Something about free speech and all that.but, as to the Denver trip. Hows that going? How much moolah have we raised for those who need a little help getting there?
I’m funny? =blush=.
Pookie
Sounds like that was Christie Adkins. She’s been on Fox before.
326 Maryland.
Ammonia yes thats it! We must deprogram the bots with an ammonia treatment. Nothing else seems to work.
329 snowtiger
antifish and I had a challenge and we both made it…hope you like McDonald’s!!
Praise god and pass the ammonia. I like it.
wish I had said it. Don’t worry I will.
#332 1 gypsy I saw that last night. Very cool. So you two are donation buddies now? Vonay is mine.
However you lost me on McDonalds.
330 BigCatLover on 07.28.08 at 5:02 pm Pookie
Sounds like that was Christie Adkins. She’s been on Fox before.
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She is really good. I have seen her go head-to-head on Hannity and Combs, I believe that was the show.
From the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/us/politics/28web-nagourney.html?_r=1&nl=pol&emc=polb1&oref=slogin
Maybe PUMA and others like us have something to do with this? YES!!!!!!!!!
Heneri
#335 MAF This lady (Christy) was just on and it was a female that was interviewing her, but I was really proud of her.
335 Middle age female
Antifish was first on the blog this morning and we matched each other. We have to save $$ in case someone gets stuck in Denver….But there’s enough for lunch for several people. Antifish is always so nice to everyone…all I did was make a challenge and antifish beat me to the donation!!
Did anyone go and check out the link I posted #274 truely you have to see this BS with your own eyes to believe this garbage..
I have been reading links. if i’m quiet you know why
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/produce-obama-embossed-birth-certificate
Demand bho show a REAL, birth certificate. NOW.
#274 slyt2 That article proves one thing a piece of paper will lay still and let you write anything on it. Or maybe, just maybe, the news is starting to see this monster they have created , the pin is mightier then the sword
#36 Henrietta’
Even when questioning precious they have to try and spin it his way. Well at least we got something closer to the truth.
I ownder if anyone will mention the fact that “O” has never gotten the votes that the polls said he would?
I wonder if anyone will talk about the voter suppression that went on?
Shoot. I know four people who were told they couldn’t vote i the dem primary here in Ca, because they weren’t registered as democrats. No one told them that they could register for a day and vote. Of course they were all Hillary supporters.
#324
This is her group:
http://www.clintons4mccain.com/
It belongs to the Just Say No Deal coalition.
I went there…One person said it all – Denial!!
Don’t you people understand?
“this is our moment, this is our time.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKI6pwHRCm8
I read on some post earlier that some of you ask who IS LARRY SINCLAIR ?? Just go to Larrysinclair0926.com
and do some reading this poor guy has had so many death threats and yes he got arested after the news conferance they made a mistake and were suspose to aresst him before that news conferance so he couldnt tell the truth about obamas drug use and gay sex and how axlrod paid a website 750,000.00 to falsely report facts about larry sinclair !!!! Im praying someone ask obama to take a lie dector test on this things and the murder of a choir member from wrights church in dec. 2007 that was gay and worked on the obama campgain and was talking with this larry sinclair and then he came up murdered !!! Obama is scary and his thugs must be stopped !!!!!!!!
And these rude superdelagates need to be put out of office !!!! Starting with donna , howard and peliosi !!!!
I will do everything in power to get rid of them !!!
I live in Calif. and will voting for anyone BUT Pelosi !!!
Keep up tthe good work pumas GGGRRRRRRRRRROWWLL
I have been out of state for the last week to Las Vegas and im trying to catch up on all the post and emails!!!! Whew !!! And im back to work to our furniture store to sell somemore to get some money back from loses in Vegas LOL I lost everything but my BOOTY lol
So back to the salt mines HA HA
#305 Antifish- there are pictures and the article from the Southeast PUMAS at RD
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/atlanta-pumas-show-dean-some-southern-hospitality/
Hey Pumas I agree ,when we get enough of the response letters back from the super delegates, lets send them to the media. We need to let the people know what kind of so called leaders we have in congress. It burns me to the core ,that they feel they can talk to the people like that put them in office.
#338 1 gypsy
They make the best Lava flow magaritas.:)
AH very cool Now I know what you mean by MCDonalds. (duh)
And my answer is NO freaking way. I wouldn’t eat at mcdonalds if you paid me. YUCK!!!
Due to the outbreaks of ecoli over the last few years McDonalnds has put new beef testers at all their establishments. This amazing machine makes sure no beef enters the patties.
I will donate an extra twenty next week and we will go eat at Chevy’s
Ok all I must go and do more work. I just love my days off. I will bbl
Keep feeding the PUMAS.
I’m going to start pulling newsmedia stuff also for all the hateful comments made. They’re all over the place. I’ll make sure I get the names of the people/media/mags, etc.!! Boy oh Boy, when I get ticked, I go back to my Buckeye roots.
PUMA family:
puma is on cnn , read the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/23/preston.puma/index.html
#250 dear mzebest,
it’s true about the tape i heard it . It drove me crazy with laughter.Hey have any of you Pumas heard of Michael Savage? He is 100% against Obama and he doesn’t care who knows it.He has his own Radio show here in North Carolina on101.5 and I believe7:00pm. I have never listened to him but my brother who is rep. loves him.He gives a lot of anti-obama info,facts and he has alot of listeners.
#343 Flgirl thank you so much
#274 slyt2
LMAO
Thank you #347 TLCPUMA.
If you want just straight facts and documents, go to larrysinclair.org.
What is happening to Larry Sinclair is not to be believed in this, our America: WARRANTLESS ARREST; HELD IN JAIL FOR FIVE DAYS AND DENIED HIS CRITICAL MEDS in D.C. for simply speaking out against BHO in a press conference that Larry called. He and his mother have had death threats; people have called for “hits” on him; his blog has been shut down off and on and broken into by the other faction.
It’s simply unbelievable what is happening right under our noses in our beautiful, sacred America.
Here’s the embarrasing thing for O. The ‘this is our moment, this is our time’ concept is curiously close to the 1997 Broadway musical Jekyll & Hyde lyrics to This is the Moment:
This is the moment
This is the day
When I send all of my doubts and demons
On there way
Every endeavor
I have made ever
Is coming into play
Is here and now today
This is the moment
This is the time
When the momentum and the moment
Are in rhyme
Give me this moment
This precious chance
I’ll gather up my past
And I’ll make some sense at last
This is the moment
When all I’ve done
All of the dreaming and scheming and screaming become one
This is the day
See it sparkle and shine
When all I’ve lived for
Becomes mine
For all these years
I’ve faced the world alone
And now the time has come to prove to them I’ve made it on my own
This is the moment
My final test
Destiny beckoned
I never reckoned second best
I won’t look down
I must not fall
Moment for moment
This is the moment
The sweetest moment of them all
This is the moment
Damn all the odds
This day or never
I sit forever with the gods
When I look back
I will always recall
Moment for moment
This was the moment
The greatest moment
Of them all!
Lyrics by Frank Wildhorn, music by Leslie Bricusse
#291 murphy
WOW good job!
Someone was asking yesterday about polls – USA is one of the best pollsters – go onto this link and on the left hand side of the screen is a breakdown by State of what the % is for each state for MC and BO
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/
some of this sd treart the voters that them into office like s……
#324 Pookie
I saw that to, she did a great job!
294
Barbara Streisand lost me here: “There is too much at stake right now to elect another George W. Bush to the White House. And John McCain is just that.”
I HAVE NEWS for Barbara….yes there is too much at stake that why we can’t let BO get to the white house !!!
Our friend and founder of HOUNDS made news again today. According to Rush L on his radio program, Ed Rendell says that they need to target the 1 MILLION voters in PA that are NOT registered. Rendell says that he feels the reason these people are not registered is that neither of the parties have made “the effort” to give them a reason to be part of the process…AND….AND…that approximately 10 percent of those that DID vote in the PA Primary were Hillary won decisively, are still NOT “on board.” I don’t know what to make of this, but I want to get a transcript of the entire story. Ed is talking about us PUMAs from what I got out of it and “The Citizen of the World” has still not and is not closing the deal.
#358 MarylandPuma- it is the exact words Bono said in a concert in 2005
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20050703/ai_n14683852
Rodham #327, well if maryland isn’t going to pick up Shane from Ireland, I will!
the comment by maxine waters is an absolute disgrace for any woman to make about a fellow sister.what a shame. i will never listen to a word she says again. any woman with a daughter should feel anger toward the dnc. we lied to our little girls when we said you can be any thing you want to be. if not senator clinton as our first woman for president then who?
with what is going on the undemocratic party
they are such thugs
that probably fix his bc
Barbara Streisand is entitled to her opinions as any individual has a right to theirs I just think she could have thought it through a little better. I mean hillary is the one that could solve problems with viable solutions. the same thing she said abt mcc applies to O. In fact O was nothing before the media made him not a civil rights activist or anything. what the heck is a community organiser anyway????
did they say they are keeping our emails in archives?
lol…so be it…hope the pc they are keeping them on doesn’t run out of memory….
#369 Chrissie D.
Well, he worked for Acorn so that must mean he went out and registered fake voters, dead people, pets, people who don’t exist oh and an occasional real human being!
I got some static the other night for my post “Hey Axelrod, Where’s the Bounce?”
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/26/hey-axelrod-wheres-the-bounce/
But I felt confident standing by my challenge, and I still do. Looks like the NYTimes agrees, I like their headline — very original:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/us/politics/28web-nagourney.html?_r=1&nl=pol&emc=polb1&oref=slogin
murphy-thank your for the opening today so that we can see what so many people have been receiving from the so-called leaders in this country.
#81 antifish-that you for that link. In addition to the article being good I read some of the comments. One person was very insightful in regard to the similarity of *61 and Hitler in regard to the flag and their own symbols.
people are always threatened by intelligent competent women even fellow women because thats what society tells us and as i said before its internalised sexism. I mean this whole election situation is reminding me of the FLDS (the group lead by warren jeffs) – the chosen one/prophet and a society where women are dominated and those that escape that mentality the other women are taught to ridicule them and the power in the communities are in the hands of a few corrupt people.
Fellow Puma’s they’ve shut him down AGAIN. Larry Sinclair’s site larrysinclair0926.com has been shut down again!! Man they just keep at it and keep at it. What is this? Russia? Poor Larry and his wonderful mother.
BHO must be stopped. His money is rolling all over everything. Like the “free bratts, free beer, and free rock concerts” to gather the crowd for the news crews. Any idea how much that must have cost? Poor John McCain can’t (AND SHOULDN’T HAVE TO) compete with this nonsense.
371 / 369
He has never done anything. except what it takes ( in his opinion) to become POTUS .
LOL can i register my pet then????? where is the “community organiser” list when you need one. so u mean these people watch crossing over and then put those people edwards “connects” with on the register. LOL
Regarding POLLS: John Zogby, the magnificent, said that the citizen of the world has won decisively with 274 electoral votes, while John McCain has slipped from a high of 160+ down to 140+. In his opinion, these numbers show that the electorate are paying closer attention to the issues that separate the two candidates. There are listening alright, and the poster upthread says it all with the USA Today’s latest numbers. These are the ones being quoted most.
was the Logan Act ever sent to the attorney general ?
she really wants to vote too (my pet) I mean. she believes in hope and change i saw it in her eyes and she is convinced shes a canine of the world too.
A French writer once said:
No one is more arrogant toward women more aggressive or scornful than the man who is anxious about his Virility
It certainly does look like America is being taken over.
what is going on is shameless
never have seen such a corruption
and getting away @ everything
Nostradamus:
http://www.nostradamusonline.com/sample_chapter.php
The presidents of the United States, a supposedly free country, have been abusing their power to an increasingly greater extent. During a time of social unrest even more so than the period of Vietnam and Watergate, the Electoral College will be evenly split over the election of the new president. The process will stalemate, with many people clamoring for whichever candidate they voted for, causing enormous tension in the country. Internationally it will be a sensitive situation.
Because of the split, and the extremely volatile and explosive social unrest, putting either candidate in office instead of the other could start a civil war or a revolution. After a long time of impassioned speeches invoking patriotism and the founding fathers, a compromise solution of holding another election will be taken, and a candidate will be installed without disaster.
#372 Murphy and the NYT article. They contradict what Zogby had to say regarding Bob Barr. Interesting! Zogby said that Barr was the reason McCain had dropped in HIS polling data. I really loved the way Zoby said that Barr was polling in the HIGH Single Digits. Talk about how the phrasing of something makes it sound more worthy than just reporting the fact.
well, if we don’t form a party we will never be able to overthow–without a riot ya know.
Hey, who’s to say in four years we can’t have a PUMA in the race.
murphy is smarter than most….who knew?
PUMA KNEW!
386….why not now
..im behind it in 4 years…
386….why not now
..im behind it in 4 years…
OMG Murphy you addressed ME – thank you – I am absolutely thrilled – even though I am only 20 years old – with a much older mind – I would love to someday do exactly what you are doing – making a difference in democracy – proud to be associated with you and pumas.
#378:
I believe John Zogby’s brother (James) is a superdelegate for Barack Obama.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/5/114235/8328
NEVER trust Zogby polls. Good or bad. Don’t trust ‘em.
oops i clicked submit 2 time…lol
it usually says “you have aleady said that “
You are right Kat in your Hat – it is his brother and he is a superdelegate and they always showed BO ahead – well usually
When all of this is said and done, I want heads to roll. Remember what they did in France?
CHOP. CHOP. CHOP.
yep a PUMA party for those people who feel the dems and the repubs just don’t represent them and one could make a fair voting system. where all the states vote on the same day. a lot of countries have more than two parties in the elections. sometimes its good. i mean then you not forced to go along with the lesser of two evils.
anyways a hillpower party as well. 
no more buying elections, and also media coverage of all candidates should be limited and equal during the primaries people would have to prove themselves to the public b4 election time.
Handing out fliers on cars at local hospital parking lots.
Hopsital parking lots for fliers — might mention mention Senator Clinton has an all-inclusive health plan, we are confident she has met the requirements to have her name put in nomination at the convention. Please contact your local delegates to make sure they know you want HER name up on the nomination or whatever you are comfortable with. I could have kicked myself today when I went for a doctor’s appt. and didn’t have any fliers with me.
Here is a link to an interview of Debbie B. The Wisconsin Delegate…she is a real PUMA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0vGxlSxMC8
Re: Fill out the following questionaire and email it to DrLynetteLong@aol.com.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/28/dr-lynette-long-seeks-a-researcher-to-investigate-caucus-fraud/
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#377 Chrissie D
I have 3 dogs and could get all of them to put a paw print on a registration form!
#391 Kat–you are right. The validity of his data is zero, as far as being square or close to having balance. I was chuckling the whole time he was giving the info out—he was giddy and his voice broke into falsetto a couple of times. He left out the part that 119 of the total was ‘too close to call.” The news person had to add that info herself.
yep poor Debbie I mean how can freedom of speech be a crime when SDS that represented constituencies that voted overwhelming for hillary went to BO thereby overturning the will of the voters one didn’t see this outcry by the DNC. Richardson to name a few. I mean why wasn’t he reprimanded and stripped of his status. The DNC seems to have become the haven for hypocrites party
” Were is the bounce” That is good.
Mix that with his basket ball playing and it makes a
funny picture in your head.
This is exactly what happened after Hillary. See DNC we were right!
Your Prince of peace is going to fall a loooooooong way be for he hits earth.
Don’t you (DNC) dare bring me (a voter) some half ass Icarus again!
Icarus
http://rtone.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/daedalus-and-icarus.jpg
I got a flame thrower!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqpZDqrv4Xo
Governor Ed Rendell on Obama’s Chances in Pennsylvania
July 28th, 2008 12:27 pm
Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter but now the leader of “Team O” in the Keystone state, offers his thoughts on Obama’s chances in this critical electoral battleground. His first assessment is that “not of all us (Hillary supporters) are there yet.” Perhaps he might consider that a quarter of Clinton’s supporters per the exit polls said they would shun Obama if he were to be the nominee though in his estimation 90% of Clinton’s supporters now enthusiastically back Obama. His other assessment is that the battle for Pennsylvania’s 23 electoral votes would largely be in the Philadelphia suburbs. Senator Clinton certainly did well in the Philly suburbs but she also carried all but two counties in the central and western part of the state. Can Obama capture those “bitter” people “clinging to their guns and religion”?
From the Pittsburgh Tribune Review:
The Sen. Barack Obama campaign held a conference call this morning on one of the key battleground states in this race: Pennsylvania.
Team O, led by Gov. Ed Rendell, stressed the importance of registering and winning over the one-million-plus, un-registered voters spread out over the Keystone State.
Rendell said the Philadelphia suburbs — the five or so counties that gave Rendell his 2002 primary victory over Bob Casey and a general election victory over Mike Fisher — will be the battleground area in the state.
“I think that Sen. Obama is going to do very well in the suburbs,” he said. “I would be very disappointed if we would not match John Kerry’s margin in the suburbs.”
In Kerry’s failed 2004 campaign against George Bush, almost two-thirds of the voters in the four counties surrounding Philadelphia cast ballots for Kerry — passing Al Gore’s margin when he beat Bush 51 percent to 46 percent in that region.
Rendell said if Obama wins a significant number in the burbs, then combines that with wins in Philadelphia and the Lehigh Valley, he clinches the state.
When Obama’s ‘bitter’ remarks that he made in San Francisco were brought up, Rendell said Obama wished that he phrased it differently.
“But there is no question that he is correct that there are people that are hurting … there are still a lot of people particularly in small towns who are hurting that need the help of a president that cares about them.”
Rendell said that not all of the Clinton people have jumped on board Team O: “Not all of us are there yet, but 90 percent of us are there (and) we are getting more enthusiastic by the day about Sen. Obama.”
Rendell said Team O was very good at expanding the base, which will help it win over those unregistered voters. In fact, had it not registered so many new voters, Rendell said Clinton probably would have won Pennsylvania by 14 percent or 16 percent, “and maybe had the game-changing victory that she needed somewhere along the line.”
90%….he must have mean .09%….
NO DEAL. This girl is going McCAIN with a happy heart and when Nobama loses I will celebrate like it’s 1999.
Then, the day after the election, we will gear up for 2012.
I bet O is gonna come out with a magazine like the other O with his pic on it and his thought and special sayings for the day. I can imagine the articles:
How to pick a church for Dummies
Life with Michelle and other such stories
Being a victim and the medias darling
How basketball is going to change the world
Looking good and voting present: the laymens guide to easy political success.
As I have explained to those who have asked, I wouldn’t vote for that man if death was the other option. My dead hand wouldn’t vote for him 20 years after I died. NO NO NO….
NOPE. NOPE. I hope the DNC is listening. H to the NOPE not gonna vote for that dope….
MUR———PHY !!!!!!!
Did you get my e-mail today?
Well PA – looks like they’re headed your way. Hope you can get the word out to everyone. The Dems know they need this state – along with 49 or is 57 other states.
Trish
You’ve got mail….
I actually have more respect for Michelle than I do for O. I mean she actually stands by her views and positions even if they are misguided whereas O changes position like the wind changes direction
anyways 
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/brainonhope.html?id=13345-6782064-L33ccax&t=4
I ‘HOPE’ this isn’t a repeat on the blog, MoveOn has a new ad to attack the Republican ads on MTV.
They actually think this will bring kids back to precious. Talk about lack of substance, I guess they figure all of our children are air heads and can’t think.
This is getting to be like the Smirfs go to Washington.
don’t want to be a hater of other women – Michelle is quite a strong women I’ll give her that. Life with O must be torture for her
can u imagine a family conversation or any decision that has to be made O will change his mind every three days and nothing would have probably ever got done in the house if it wasn’t for Michelle.
Hey pumas, All that mess with EDWARDS was true, it was just on FOX NEWS. Guess he’s not on the VP list anymore.huh
Hi all,
been away for 4 days, no computer access, missed you all –
I’ve never stopped talking to people though, now and weeks and months ago, it seems to continue, the more people see through NObama the more they dislike and distrust him.
He is slowly but surely placing the noose around his own neck.
Arrogance galore!
Photo-ops galore!
Intelligence and substance? ZERO
Experience and past accomplishments? ZERO
No y’all, he won’t make it.
It’s despicable that the DNC and the so-called supers who support him don’t see it.
(They do but we all know what happened there, the smart ones were bought and the stupid ones just followed.)
We had an AAA+ winner in Hillary and they blew it.
I’m definitely convinced they know it.
Did any one of you catch “The View” today? It was reported and I heard the audio, that Pelosi contradicted what “the citizen of the world” said yesterday when he was on Meet the Press.
The flips and flops are so rampant now that the “memo” is not getting around to all of his surrogates fast enough.
#394 jenniforhillary~~~LOL Hey, a lil over 200 years ago it was the MinuteMen who saved the country. This time it may very well be the PUMA’s.
RodhaminFlag: I apologize for the confusion on my email address. It is pademprowlpuma@gmail.com
I sent the info to Anna and everyone else who emailed me thus far.
Did anyone else get any nasty emails from any Jewish organizations regarding mentioning the Wailing Wall?
#413 tillerylakelady–and the one that will suffer the most on this will be Elizabeth. She did not deserve this–no one did.
He wants to pull the troops out of Iraq immediately~~~~and send em to Afganistan, thus saving the American Public exactly Zero dollars. Whata genius!!! Not!!!!
Murphy,
Can we put up a big count down clock right on the front page from now on till the convention?
#410 chrissieD wrote:
anyways 
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“I actually have more respect for Michelle than I do for O. I mean she actually stands by her views and positions even if they are misguided whereas O changes position like the wind changes direction
Thats what I thought my self. I don’t like her but she sticks.
I would still rip here earrings out but we may end up with more respect for each other at the end of the fight.
Obama is a pencil necked geek.
Freddie Blassie
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/3225/Misc_Pop/Freddie_Blassie/Pencil_Neck_Geek.txt
So just dated my self. I love you Dr. Demento!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzTysqw6_P8
398 mcr
thank you, I did the questionnaire.
I wish I could do more, it was this darn caucus fraud that helped NObama.
Pure and simple.
They have us over a barrel. Well we could regester new people as independants
about the nostradamus code
“the frightened & hopeful populace will be VULNERABLE to his rhetoric”
Jeremy ………….Citizen of the world ……….lmao. I think you meant to also say (the new messiah) JUST WHO IN THE HELL IS THIS IDIOT ANYWAY..AND HOW THE HELL HAS HE FOOLED SO MANY ?? IF I COULD JUST GET HOLD OF ONE OF HIS EARS……….WELL !!
it only takes a few committed true hearts to change the course of a nation
Murphy I sent you an interesting e-mail that I got from a survey that represents the DNC. Or I hope ya got It
Some of you may not like this man ~ but he speaks some truth!! The Rev. Manning speaks of the last 100 days of this election~ boycotting MSN< OPRHA<CNN and others~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-rrdbHo0s
#410 chrissieD~~~If I had to go home to MO, I’d be campaigning 24/7, in Europe or anywhere, or playing basketball myself.
The caucus idiotic process is the ONLY reason this IDIOT is where he is now..utterly rediculous !!!!!!!!
about ms guffy
because she is woman, she is no better than guffy, she belong to the clan of donna bonanza
I told you all that the National Enquirer is normally spot on. Edwards is a guilty dog, and I just have to laugh. His wife should walk on, and he should march himself over to the bus and toss himself under it.
GOTTA LAUGH girls and boys, another do-gooder another loyal DEM down the drain exposed as a user, a liar, and a flip flopper.
HILLARY where are you? WE need you now!
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc
Hello my Puma family, I thought it might be nice to go light candles for our fellow Pumas. We have 189 candles currently from 3 countries for hrc. Light a candle and while your there think about all the blessings in your life. They might not be riches or fame, you might not even have a spouse or significant other, but there are blessings all around you! We found Puma didn’t we? Be kind to each other.
See you when I catch up reading the blog!!!
One Love
Lets organize a huge rock concert in the middle of time square…have fox nrews cover it. And then expose this jackass to the blind followers that think he is GOD !!!
I GET SO ANGRY AT THE IGNORANCE OF PEOPLE !!!
jenniforhillary ………WELL SAID GAL…
#426–I like “Citizen of the World.” Reason–he gave himself that title–so that is what I will call him. That is something he has qualifications for–it puts him as my equal. Some call him “The Messiah, ” but in my opinion–that puts him in CEO territory and he is not even in the ball park–regardless who puts him in one, for that kind of recognition.
McCain 49 Boo 40
I love watching Brit Hume they were (his panel) talking about BO and his “getting the troops out” and ripping on him more or less.
435….good idea…lol
PA Dem – didn’t get a nasty email from any Jewish organizations yet. What are they saying? That we are wrong to be offended by Bo’s antics at the Wailing Wall?
LOL
no i mean shes actually had the experience of being a person of colour and not just the advantages like hubby dearest and even though her views are way too radical I respect who she is as a person rightly or wrongly. As i said O just doesn’t have my respect cos I just don’t know what he stands for. also hillary was and is the better candidate so thats my main point.
Hey i have an idea….any bands that are pumas etc,,,,going to Denver or anyone that can play an drum etc. any thing…lol draw attention in the cattle pen ?
#403 Jeremy
I’m really beginning to love Rendell… I think he’s a “team” player in the same way that they always refer to Clinton is a “team” player. He’s handing us presents… and helping us while at the same time appearing to be a BO supporter. He’s doing great. Is there a link for that story?
omg everytime i post Barzilla face pops up scares the chit out of me….
what is Rendalls website ?
Finally, the MSM are reporting the end of their love affair with O!
has anyone listened to this video? regardless what you think of the man~ what he says has alot of weight! he speaks about bo and him turning this nation into a socilaist and fascious country~ comment and rate~
he is making a plea to america~ if you dont want to see bo put his hand on the koran~ BOYCOTT and consider what he is saying~
i think he is so right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-rrdbHo0s
i guess i will catch some flack from some of you puma’s~ but i agree with him on this one!
447 SAY WHAT…ok that was a joke right ?
#444 mzebest on 07.28.08 at 7:00 pm
I agree. I will get the link.
347 TLCPUMA
Have you signed the petition to get Cindy Sheehan on the ballot to run against Nancy Pelosi. A link is posted here from time to time for California voters to sign.
Having problems posting. Can’t watch news so what is going on with Edwards and Rendell?
My home state of Pa is going to be crucial, and targeted. Rendell and Co. are hitting the ground now, doing whatever it takes to bring the state home for BO. My greatest concern is that there is going to be so much money thrown at strategic demographics, that many won’t care about the issues. The million they are trying to register is part of the group that won’t listen to anything. Hopefully, we “bitter, gun-toting, Bible-clutching, uneducated racists” will remember in November that issues, actions, words, character, judgement, integrity, and experience are what matter.
einstein said :there were 2 things that were infinite
1 the universe
2 human stupidity
I can not believe that part of the american people are immersed this obama stupidness ¡¡¡¡¡¡
Seriously, 447, Mountain Song, what have you heard that I haven’t since I can’t watch the news anymore?
#403 Jeremy
I especially love the way Rendell managed to remind the voters of these two items:
“Senator Clinton certainly did well in the Philly suburbs but she also carried all but two counties in the central and western part of the state. Can Obama capture those “bitter” people “clinging to their guns and religion”?”
They are gifts.
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As of 07/26/2008, Barack Obama has not produced a valid paper birth certificate proving that he is a natural born citizen of the United States of America. If he is not a natural born citizen of the United States of America, then his candidacy and possible election to the Presidency of the United States is invalid and fraudulent.
He must prove this to the satisfaction of the American voters.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/produce-obama-embossed-birth-certificate
Cindy got more names than she needed. She should be on her way and Polosi out
I like the time square idea was thinking of something like that a long time. Murphy what do ya think something like it? Pizza and beer and band and than you can tell all why he wont win and bring bunch more with ya Will maybe etc.
we already boycott CNN, abc cbs and Oprah
457 I signed it.
I think the media has shoved “it” down our throats so much lately in Texas, that all we want to do is “heave.”
We’re also working on “Swindler’s List” – writing to Jewish SD’s, all Hillel Foundatians on campus, National Jewish Federation, etc. Trying to get them to see the danger of BO in White House given his atrocious and hideous behavior at the Wailing Wall.
Thought we could get Steven Spielberg behind this (as a Hill supporter ) and BABS but it sounds to me like some of you heard Streisand has other ideas. Quite disappointing.
#456 mzebest
What do you mean by “They are gifts?”
Re: Jeremy #403:
Listen Pumas — we are working with laserlike focus on the Convention, following every damn avenue we can to try to stop this train wreck before it carries our party over the cliff. this isn’t the movies, though. Our chances of victory in Denver are VERY slim — it would be an UNPRECEDENTED upset. heads would explode.
If we are unsuccessful in turning the tide WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. Plans are being laid TODAY to take our message to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada in September and October. Obama wants to register 1,000,000 new democrats in Pennsylvania? Dream on.
#459
yes, but he has more to say than that~ it doenst hurt to listen, does it?
I think mzebest is pointing out that Rendell gave away some “inside” information in that statement — information that can be used by the Obama Movement’s opposition.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/28/1228841.aspx
Here is one of the links regarding Rendell’s remarks.
Murphy~ i sent you email~ you may like the gifs for future postings~
457 signed
SOUTH JERSEY -
No flack from me. I have been watching him for a good while and his presentation may be , how should I say “different”, but he speaks the truth. I have also watched his predictions come to pass.
Can’t call him racist, can they!
The whole media is distressed on the no show bounce…
maybe he’s the second coming of Reagan?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/whyisnt-he-doing-better/
#433 jenniforhillary on 07.28.08 at 6:50 pm I told you all that the National Enquirer is normally spot on. Edwards is a guilty dog, and I just have to laugh. His wife should walk on, and he should march himself over to the bus and toss himself under it.
—
I disagree and I don’t think we should discuss their personal life just as we do not like the Bo flock discussing Bill and Monica. We are above that.
# 448
that guy is right
what he says is entirely true
I myself do not watch cnn
and is the only american tv that I could watch in europe
Agree Murphy! The link on #467 is not what I c/p. I am still attempting to find it. It was on google 30 minutes ago–now gone. mmmm?
Let them register voters….they can’t put a gun to there head and make them vote for him ! More people to vote for Hill….
Lorelai: The nasty email I received was from the JCC in Rhode Island (which I sent to the main JCC email–not a personal email address–b/c one of their board members is a SuperDelegate). Just to show you how unreasonable Obama supporters are (all I sent was the links to the news reports with excerpts, no actual commentary):
———————————
“I have no idea how you got this email, but you need to remove my name from it immediately.
And you need to grow up.
of course he gave them a copy, to avoid them possibly desecrating the wall by trying to pull it out.
If you don’t like Obama, don’t vote for him.
but keep your pathetic prosyletizing to yourself.”
emme 312, Good saying:
“Remember In November”, this can be one of our battle cries.
Remember what the media did to Hillary?
Remember what the super D’s did to Hillary?
Remember the caucuses? ( Picture the one elderly lady I heard about who went to caucus for Hillary, who had to park several blocks away and walk in bitter cold and snow only to be turned away when she got in line, and told the caucus was closed.)
Remember being called racists?
Remember Penns., West Va., Kentucky, Ohio, and a few other small town areas who were labled racists, bible & gun clinging bitter bigots?
Remember the Super Delegate turncoats?
Remember Florida and Michigan?
Remember Bill & Hillary Clinton ( champions for minorities) being labled racists? Because of the word “farytale”
Remember being told thousands of times to, “Get over it?”
Remember for the first time in history a candidate was given all the “uncommitted votes” from a State?
Remember for the first time in history 4 delegates were stolen from one candidate and given to another?
Remember the nasty, rude emails from the Super D’s?
Yep, We will remember in November.
476
…post it murphy
MO is as bad, if not worse that BO!!!
I am concerned that Pelosi will have Bo help her review Cindy’s petition using his chicago style politics that he’s famous for. I hope Cindy checked and double checked every name in accordance to what he did previously to petitions
Hey you media wingnuts – PUMA PAC IS GLOBAL!
PUMAs OUTSIDE the United States are APPALLED at the way the DNC handled this election and treated Candidate Hillary Clinton!
Senator Obama, the world is NOT your oyster. There are many grains of sand irritating your shell that will soon become pearls.
AFRICA
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International PUMA PACers – speak up!
Ben Smith at Politico has an article on this plus a transcript of the teleconference of how they will attempt.
Sheesh ya’ll, I got two arms and two legs. When I sprout 8, my daughter and mom get first dibs. The rest I leave to you PUMAS.
See above for the international PUMA movement! lol
the thugs are already machinating probably fraudulent elections
that about penn smells very fishy
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Pa Dem- unfreakin’ believable – that response from the JCC in R.I. There are no explanations that can rationalize for me the rise of this empty suit who has no qualifications to be POTUS.
Does this just boil down to everyone is afraid of being called a racist if we don’t think he is the best candidate?
I’m fearful for our country in a way that I have never been before.
9/11 was terrorism and I know this sounds dramatic, but this feels like psychological terrorism to me. We are dealing with POD people who have robbed and stolen from us our chances at true democracy and everyone does seem to be “falling in line”..like Stepford Wives and Pod People. I just don’t understand….:(
trish. He is a BHO supporter who HURT the country and Hillary by coming out in support BEFORE the convention. He (Edwards) holds himself out as a holier than though man, and I feel the right and DUTY to call him to the floor.
I understand that you may differ in opinion. However, until Murphy asks me not to post news of BHO supporters who are falling down on the job, I will continue to do so.
#479 LOL no I think hes the bad one, I’m not saying I agree with her views just the fact that I respect her being strong in a society that disses opiniated women. I think that BO not being strong enough and lying to the public abt what he stands for is worse. and i mean MO is not running for election. BO is and he can’t stand the test of time or even match hillary on anything experience, integrity etc I mean hillary voted for and against acts not present and shes strong enough to stand up for what she believes in. MO is perhaps the opposite end of the spectrum in that what she believes is jaded and prejudiced and therefore wrong but she has my respect for not doing a BO and lying abt it and not doing the whole wolf in sheeps clothing act that BO is doing. with MO at least u know where u stand.
Good evening all,
Going backwards reading the posts. Lots of good info out today.
I have an idea. Maybe we could send all the nasty emails we get to one PUMA and have them print them out and snail mail them to different newspapers and news stations. If anything someone might pick up and turn it into a story. Anything we can do showing all the nasty, mean and hateful emails could only help. (Or make them so pi**ed off they come out swinging.)
Just an idea. With all the news papers out there one or two would hopefully be brave enough to point out how nasty the “O” crowd can be.
KENDALLBLUE – did you notice that the correct email address for PADEM – is pademprowlpuma@gmail.com
SHE HAS THE ADDYS FOR ALL THE JEWISH SUPERDELEGATES that all of us want to write “urging” them to switch from Precious to Hillary at the convention – there are about 80 of them – we all send an email to them – they will get the hint that its not just politics but faith as well – do it people – do it .
Lorelai: I know. When I saw it, I had to walk away from my computer for a few hours (which is why it took longer than expected to get people the looooong list of email addresses typed). I was beginning to feel like no matter what the facts say, no one will actually listen.
Well I opened my wine and had my whatever, now I want good news!
good news: the bounce is that of an old deflated basketball…
that a big rig ran over
anyone have any look with s. spielberg’s address? I am still looking….
A word about Zogby- he is an idiot.
Take a look at these polls, leading into election days:
He had Barry up by 4% in Pa., HRC won by close to 10%. He had them tie in NJ, HRC won. He had Barry up by 5% for Missouri, he eeked out a 1% win. He had Barry at 6% in California, she won by 10%! He had them tied in Ohio, she won by 10%
He is an idiot.
I have not read his methodology but my guess is he puts this out there to disenfranchise voters.
Here is a link, I can’t remember what page it will take you to on his site, I started getting so pissed off reading it but go ahead, take a look at history, actual and predicted. My hope is that the same occurs in November and Howie, Nancy, Harry, Axelrod and the chosen one are walking around, scratching their heads (they should be out of their asses by then) trying to figure out what went wrong.
http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1471
Sorry for the rant, I am a little perturbed right now.
#494 jenniforhillary
LMAO
Doing a drive by. Guess who is financing the conventions.
Best part of this article is that dems will getting a free at&t tote bag. Want to bet we don’t see any on television coverage?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080723_whos_paying_for_the_conventions/
I have decided Hillary will have the nom and thats it, nothing else will do!
couldn’t you guys have public debates like the candidates were supposed to do. invite a few O-supporters or just one to debate with a PUMA and then invite some media. no one from the MSN only journalists with fair balanced track record and reporting allowed. this would encourage voter dialogue and you’d have rules obviously like no mud slinging just debating the facts. and just based on the facts hillary is miles ahead by ne1s standards.
Do any of our wonderful international PUMAs know how to find out polls for favorability ratings for other countries? I’ve heard that Obama is not favored in Israel, but is favored in Arab countries, but I can’t seem to find any hard data going either way.
Awaiting a call from a HRC pledged delegate. Anything I should know?
Great News Pumas!! McCain ahead for the first time, (not likely to be the last as people are waking up.)
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/07/mccain_ahead_in.html
gojoyknocks: Find out if the HRC pledged delegate signed an notarized the petition
Any one know more about the hip injury thing? Was this before the gym or after the gym?
Gojoyknocks – yes, tell them we’re seeking the reversal or support of 80 Jewish SD’s who may have been just as offended as some of Jewish democrats are about the stunt at the Wailing Wall. Tell the delegate we’re not going away – that is is NOT just about this election (I mean selection)- but every election from now on!
And, Murphy,love the new website look but can’t wait until Donna B’s face is off the screen – makes me mad every time I refresh the page.
#502 gojoyknocks
Ask her what she thinks Hillarys chances are
#499 mijabsnji yep i’m with u on that one. hillary forever . i think choosing O would be gambling with an already fragile economy, and risking going deeper into debt. I mean he has no sound policies on the economy, or energy change, war, taxes etc. Hillary has a plan and good ones that she could implement.
Check out this link, Andy Martin is calling BO on his birth certificate
http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/
#503–Thanks for the info. Don’t you like “his” rationalization in his “drop.” It was because he was “not at home.” Yeah he was—he is “the citizen of the world!”
#502 gojoyknocks
Don’t overwhelm her with your information. People can only process so many facts at once. But find out whether she knows as much as you know about BO. For example, ask whether she knows the truth about BO’s pre-disclosure to the press of the prayer he inserted into the wailing wall. Mention how difficult getting the news has been, given the documented bias of the MSM. Perhaps ask whether you can provide her with a few web sites that provide comprehensive background information about him. Thank her very much for her time and attention.
#508 chrissieD
I was always for Hillary, and Bill of course I love there speeches they come from the heart, they love us as we love them, we can build a village
#499 I agree!
according to our news we get in South Africa. hes not liked that much in India if I’m not mistaken. Arab countries are for him, Europe. Not sure abt Australia tho
In SA the only news we get is abt how wonderful he is i mean there was zero reporting done on wright etc. There was one documentary done by third degree SA where this South African journalist tried to interview him and he brushed her off and couldn’t answer her questions.
Bill always reminded me in a way of JFK
he was at a picnic or some event. and they tried to interview him on 3rd degree abt how he planned to bridge the divide in the party but as I said he couldn’t answer the journalists questions.
Cyberferret52 – thanks for the good news….one step at a time…I’ll take anything at this point.
This underscores the importance of the Electability Watch that Ricki Lieberman heads up. If we write the delegates, and remind them of their only resonsibility at the Convention… to vote for the most electable candidate. You can email Ricki at rlieberma@gmail.com and she will get everyone started with templates for letters and everything.
It is so important that we do this in a respectful, nonthreatening, but enlightening way. The facts are on our side….we just need to state them in a way that doesn’t make the delegates defensive and pissed off!
Anyone here know what the chant is on the native american site? I love that site and that video.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain moved from being behind by 6 points among “likely” voters a month ago to a 4 point lead over Democrat Barack Obama The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45%
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/gains-for-mccai.html
mijabsnji–I think this is good. But be careful of the last paragraph. This poster sounds angry–oh well.
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The lastest USA TODAY/Gallup poll should have John McCain flying high.
The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45% among voters that Gallup believes are most likely to go to the polls in November. In late June, he was behind among likely voters, 50%-44%.
No, not just the numbers, but how competitive this race is. On George W. Bush’s failed presidency alone, the Democrat should be winning by a mile.
On the end of Obama’s rousing European tour, which was a success by any measure, but… no one is yet completely convinced. People are still asking: Who is this guy? From a distance just won’t do it.
It is a question that has hovered over Senator Barack Obama even as he has passed milestone after milestone in his race for the White House: Why is he not doing better?
It shadowed him as he struggled against Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in many states through the primaries, results that sometimes stood at odds with the huge, enthusiastic crowds that turned out to see him. It was there in the exit polls that suggested that many Democrats were uncomfortable with Mr. Obama, putting an asterisk next to some of his biggest primary victories.
And it is back again as he returns from an overseas trip that even Republicans have described as politically triumphant….
Where’s the Bounce?
Sorry to nag, but they don’t seem to be getting the message.
Oh, and if you don’t get the headline of this post you need to catch up on your summer reading.
What Obama needs is some good old fashion gravity, a tug to bring him back down to earth. You know, like a townhall meeting where he screws up badly. That would likely help Obama at this point.
See, for those who haven’t been paying attention, American voters don’t cheer for the champ or the smarty pants who seems full of himself, no matter how right, no matter how good the policies he’s pushing. The do-gooder who can do no wrong. See Gore 2000, or Kerry. We’re underdog lovers. We don’t like the guy above it all. We like the one who’s down in it, imperfect, you know, like William Jefferson Clinton. That’s where McCain is getting his political life preserver. From the people who like to root for the sinner or the under-achiever. You know, someone like them.
Go MCCAIN drop obamas polls big time
Rodham in Flag………..thank you. I had tried earlier and it bounced back..appreciate it. will get busy on it..
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12115.html
“Kaine is VERY VERY High on VP Shortlist”
there was also an article in the mail and guardian SA titled ” A blessing and a curse” in that people see in BO what they want to see in him and they describe as his greatest asset and problem. Some stats cited by the article says 1 in 5 democrats have a negative opinion of O.
#520 Jeremy – good article – writer doesn’t understand – *61 is so narcissistic that he can’t admit there is anything wrong – will never happen – hope he goes down in flames -
used to really like barbra striesand – threw her under my bus since she went to the dark side (hey if *61 can have a bus, so can I)
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#523 Jeremy on 07.28.08 at 7:57 pm
I’ve forgotten to mention in my previous predictions that although BO will get a bump when people see his ads during the olympics and he allegedly makes his MLK-Like speech in Mile high. I think he’ll get a dip if he mentions a VP choice is not Hillary. (I’d rather sink his candidacy rather than him pick Hillary as veep).
I’m glad that McCain got a bump with likely voters.
as i say the polls in South Africa would probably reflect favourablly since the news here internationally is lead by cnn.
Lorelai #506 — sorry — I love ya — but i WANT you to be mad!
Obama Sinking:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/gains-for-mccai.html
Also of the European tour it says that with “the exception of Angela Merkel, riding high on popularity he will meet leaders (Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy) who are not much more popular than Bush” and also describes the division as not just racial but ideological as well
#528 murphy
some good news!
more wine?
#526 IndyPUMA on 07.28.08 at 8:03 pm
IndyPUMA–on the same page regarding Hillary. No VP. She will have better things to do and will be the one that will bring real unification to all of this.
Sorry if I’m in a party mood but I feel Hillary coming on strong!
#498 Snowtiger.
I just heard on the news today that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are financing the parties at the conventions (or at least the dem one). Over a million $$$ from them.
Prowlland – I think many of us have already sent letters to MSM and they just ignore us – maybe we should send letters with proof of incorrect reporting and biased reports to the FCC ENMASSE – that would shake up some heads when they have an investigation -several of us did it to AP -
I think they should think about those paying there bills but struggeling and drowning
EVERYONE SENDING INFO TO JEWISH SD’S AND ORGANIZATIONS:
1. Do no assume the SD opens the e-mail; the address could be the mailbox for the organization.
2. Not everyone who works for Jewish organizations is Jewish.
3. Include this excerpt with your information,along with
the link. To paraphrase a saying from Watgergate days, ‘it’s the cover-up, stupid.’
“Maariv ran a photograph of the note on its front page yesterday. It said the note was removed from the wall by a Jewish seminary student immediately after Obama left. Obama spokesperson Robert Gibbs would neither confirm nor deny the note was Obama’s, but the handwriting was similar to another message written by the presidential candidate during his time in Israel this week.”
http://www.thespec.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/409504
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My dear PUMAs, I do my homework before putting us out on a limb.
Murphy – 528….I know…you’re damn good!
But still, all I see and hear when I look at that pic are her condescending, arrogant remarks to Harold Ickes and the rest of the so called “committee” on May 31 and all the stuff about “rules and her mama” and I want to scream!
So, Murphy, mission accomplished. Primal scream!!!!!!! each time I refresh!
Tonight – O’Reilly said MoveOn.Org went to Iowa to protest the treatement illegal aliens were getting at a meat processing plant. The supvs/mgrs accused of the mistreatement of the employees were fired. – only problem is that many of the illegal employees have someone else’s real identity!!! And MoveOn.org doesn’t think the illegals should be returned home or that anything should be done them.
I guess this means they are “voting” also…………..this is downright scarey. It was hinted that this will be the first of many protests and they could get worse. It was also said that G.S. is the founder of M.O.org.
“Listen Up” (Liberal Rapture) Video of someone trouncing Obama who knows him from Chigago!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_QYCy689c
Maybe we should contact them and find out. Larry Sinclair did his press conference there. Murphy and maybe Will could represent us.
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#50 Vonay on 07.28.08 at 1:25 pm
These super delegates act like they are volunteers to the US.
Hey most are paid public servants and I for one am sick and tired of them acting like we have no right to email or contact them.
Wonder what it cost to hold a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC, like Rev. Wright did?
TominPaine has a piece on Don Fowler (yes, that Don Fowler) and a link to a video that Don made earlier in the primary explaining the superdelegate process. At the end of the video he says that yes he has had many emails and phone calls from both candidate supporters and that he is polite to all of them (remember this was recoded earlier in the campaign).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4G9DRvS3s
MURPHY………..Love ya, but I want you to be mad…
great comment……..and by the way murph, I love you too…….you rock !!!
any blog radio tonight?
#445 prowlland wrote:
“omg everytime i post Barzilla face pops up scares the chit out of me….”
Ha, ha, ha, thats funny.
Phooey – brazilenut’s buddy rove on bill o’reilly show saying that obama will make big speech to all of us not falling in liners and we will all come back – 25% of dems – that’s a lot if true –
They (the talking heads) just continue to underestimate our resolve, don’t they – like I said I loathe Obama and hell will freeze over before I vote for him……………………
lol maybe she secreatly likes you shampoovta
Oh here it comes—let’s blame Hillary. We all predicted this would probably happen.
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“Did anyone listen to Big Blowhard Ed today? That would be Ed Schultz. His show, including sit in guest hosts, long ago became Clinton bashing central, but today it was taken down a different road. Where is Hillary and why isn’t she campaigning right now for Obama? Evidently, she doesn’t plan to work as hard as she said she was, so says Ed. Then Ed got down to business taking aim at Obama’s rapid response team, focusing on John McCain’s character ad against Obama. Where is team Obama’s response? Why aren’t they going after McCain’s voting record? Then Ed went further. If Obama and his surrogates, including Senate Democrats, don’t get more aggressive and show outrage over ads like McCain just unloaded, we’re going to lose this election. Finally, someone besides me is feeling it, but also saying it.”
#507 mijabsnji… A SD told me no to name in nomination, VP chance slim to none. That why I hit the ground hunting down pledged delegates
idiot wexler story on fox now
481 Maryland PUMA on 07.28.08 at 7:25 pm Hey you media wingnuts – PUMA PAC IS GLOBAL!
PUMAs OUTSIDE the United States are APPALLED at the way the DNC handled this election and treated Candidate Hillary Clinton!
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Hi Maryland Puma
I suggest you send each Puma from the international countries to try and get new members. I will ask a few friends tomorrow to join in our common goal.
You know the old commercial, I told two friends and they told two friends and so on and so on!
#537jbjd: You just made me feel worlds better. The person who responded to my comment with such negativity must NOT have been Jewish. That’s the only explanation.
For the record, that’s the only negative email I received out of what must have been at least 100
#544 jane-pa At 9 I think Will Bower will be on this show tonight. They also have a live chat, an old show is running now but the live chat is currently up.
Hillary Clinton Supporters For John McCain.
http://www.hcsfjm.com
545 shampoovta on 07.28.08 at 8:21 pm #445 prowlland wrote:
“omg everytime i post Barzilla face pops up scares the chit out of me….”
Ha, ha, ha, thats funny.
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How do we get Donna Brazile to lose her senate seat?
She must be do up for re-election soon?
#554 terrydo – brazile does not hold a congressional seat – she runs a pr company
thanks on the blog report
#554 TerryDo on 07.28.08 at 8:28 pm
When did Brazille become a Senator? A wannabe would be more like it.
547 jane-pa wrote:
“lol maybe she secreatly likes you shampoovta”
She is not look’n at me like she likes me,.. Ha ha.
Oh and SouthJerseyPUMA grate post.
#540 SouthJerseyPUMA wrote:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_QYCy689c”
Jbjd- I’m a bit confused – our information is accurate though right? BO sent out his prayer to media before he put it in the wall? What’s the whole story?
couldnt find place to post notes lol
#246 Yes it is true. I e-mailed Geller yesterday and again today. You must give your real name, address and phone number. Ask him not to drop the lawsuit unless the FULL delegation is seated NOW, not at the convention. Tell him what you think about Obama not wanting them seated from the beginning, etc.
lol I seen that look your right
Now it’s about Wexler – living in Maryland, but using his in-laws home so he doesn’t have to pay Maryland taxes. He’s also the one that sold out Florida for the votes…this goes on and on….
I think earlier there was something about both a Dem/Rep but I didn’t catch all of it.
This is getting too darn crazy!!
How many besides me are from back in the day ? viet nam era
Lorelai: Absolutely it is true. The cover up was a bigger mistake than giving the information to the media in the first place.
559 Lorelai wrote:
“Jbjd- I’m a bit confused – our information is accurate though right? BO sent out his prayer to media before he put it in the wall? What’s the whole story?”
Basically this is what happened.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/shampoovta/ObamaplacesadonWailingWall.jpg
Murphy,
I am sure you or the Denver Group is taking care of getting credential passes for the convention. My brother is going but doesn’t have a pass yet but is going to try to get one there. Anyway, he is going to go to some of the events/parties. You know, the ones being paid for by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at a million $$$ +.
As a radio reporter I would think you could get some kind of credential pass. : )
out for a bit — will be back on later tonight.
murphy.
#564 mijabsnji – how far back ya wanna go? I’m 63 years old so I go back a long way – my brother & two brothers in law were in nam – one of them lost an eye
#559 Lorelai on 07.28.08 at 8:33 pm
Lorelai–Hope this helps regarding your question.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2460192/Barack-Obama-private-prayer-at-Jerusalem-Western-Wall-subject-of-publication-row.html
pa dem – Okay got it! Thanks guys! (and gals!)…..a bit dense on Mondays.
#564 mijabsinji
Was starting college in ‘74 and my husband’s number somehow wasn’t called. He graduated from college in ‘74 and some of his friends never made it back from Viet Nam.
Susie I am about there and I think this is why the older ones wont fall in line saw this before. Also Hitler and his grand speechs.
Just put up a new post at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org.
Obama says, “We did it really well.”
We say, “Not!”
Please take a look.
Murphy – do you think TrishfromCanada can get something posted in the Canadian Free Press? They follow what’s happening closely in the lower 48. Maybe we can find a resource there.
BTW, if anyone happens to use any of the form contact information and receives a response (even an automatic one), forward that response to Trish in addition to Maryland PUMA.
Thank you.
#540 Southjersey Puma — if you are on, hope all is going great for you. Thanks for the link.
#481 maryland puma:
Wow! very impresive, little us are global!
Bravo PUMAs
we need someone from Kenya!
#574 Knoxville Puma on 07.28.08 at 8:42 pm
Thanks Knoxville. BTW, who or what was he looking at? His left eye appears to be looking at his nose? Wonder why?
jeremy
but that link doesnt show he gave copies to the press before leaving the hotel for the wall. I have seen that earlier
#575 Igypsy4mc
Great idea. Maybe we can get other countries to start talking about Guffy’s lack of birth certificate. Since our country won’t listen, they might respond to international press…
#122-RodhaminFlag and #126 KendalBlue
PaDem’s information is in post #271 on “He Made Them an Offer”..
hope that helps.
#564 I am
#569 Susie1945
got you beat april 44
so we can make a difference,we can change the world, puma power!
#555 Susie1945 on 07.28.08 at 8:29 pm #554 terrydo – brazile does not hold a congressional seat – she runs a pr company
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Well how did she have a vote at the RBC?
She states that she is an undeclared super-delegate, how do you become a super delegate.?
My ignorance is showing!
580 jane-pa on 07.28.08 at 8:47 pm
http://thewhitedsepulchre.blogspot.com/2008/07/barack-obamas-prayer-at-western-wall-in.html
Another take on the issue.
Why is it so far-fetched to believe that Hillary could be nominated you all? Why? I am not willing to settle, and I want to hear it from her own mouth what is going on.
I think she owes us this. She made us love her and believe in her, and now she must live up to that love.
I do NOT want 100 more days of O vs. M. NOPE. I want HILLARY back
I fought for my beliefs then as I do now, time has moved on but I am the same.
#570 Jeremy wrote:
#559 Lorelai on 07.28.08 at 8:33 pm
Lorelai–Hope this helps regarding your question.
It slices it dices but wait there’s more!
Maariv’s response: “Obama’s note was published in Maariv and other international publications following his authorization to make the content of the note public. Obama submitted a copy of the note to media outlets when he left his hotel in Jerusalem. Moreover, since he is not Jewish, there is no violation of privacy as there would be for a Jewish person who places a note in the wall.”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1006186.html
This was another Obama ad that is all.
mijabsinji
I responded to your e-mail, sorry for the delay my e-mail was up and down all day, mostly down though.
VOTE IN POLL
Please go up to Jeremy’s comment at #570 and click on the link. After reading the story, click on the link to the right and vote in the poll. I love their set of questions.
NOTE: after submitting your answers, you will have to indicate “no” to wanting subscriptions to various journals and then will have to go to your inbox to confirm your votes.
#588 jenniforhillary
I believe Jennifor,she will be back!
Terry Do
Because she is on the Democratic National Committee. If you watch the video by Don Fowler, he explains the whole super delegate process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4G9DRvS3s
#586 TerryDo
She probably was appointed an SD because of her involvement with the dem party for so many years. There are several who are SD’s but hold not political position.
thanks Jeremy I was ok with it from earlier but that might help others not seeing it yet
Re: evidence that Obama sent his prayer out as a press release
I very much want to contact Jewish SD’s about this and thank PaDem for all her work on this project. But, I still don’t see evidence in any of the links provided that he sent the prayer as a press release. Everything I’ve read states that his prayer was removed from the wall and subsequently published in a newspaper. (Having prayers removed in this horrible way is not uncommon when well known people visit the wall, including the Pope. You would think there would be 24-hr security to keep this from happening, but there’s not and it happens.) Having someone remove his prayer, give it to the press, and for the press to then publish it is very different than Obama passing the prayer along to the press on his own. Can someone provide a link to an article that states that he sent his prayer out as a press release? Without that, I don’t feel I can jump on this as I don’t feel I have solid ground to stand on and nothing credible to refer the SD’s to.
Thanks.
Re: Little mini actions today
While out running errands, I had occasion to be approached twice by different folks canvassing for two different issues. When they asked me if I had a moment, I said, “That depends. Who do you support for the Democratic nominee for President?” Both times, they said, “Obama.” I said, “Then, no, I don’t have a moment for you. You should be supporting Clinton.” They looked a bit stunned!
I have been working on Brazile from inside. Tell them she is stopping a lot of women comeing around with her mean spirit and mouth. Thought maybe they may change it
581 diva2 on 07.28.08 at 8:47 pm #575 Igypsy4mc
Great idea. Maybe we can get other countries to start talking about Guffy’s lack of birth certificate. Since our country won’t listen, they might respond to international press…
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International press would never get involved in Americans political process. Besides if the republicans don’t seem to have a problem with Obama’s birth certificate, “perhaps” there is no issue.
However, if there is anyone that should investigate that aspect of Obama’s political eligibility, it should be the McCain campaign.
In considering Gov Kaine of Virginia as his VP, O says he prefers a ‘beltway outsider’. Kaine has no foreign policy or national security experience. Someone needs to remind O that he is running for POTUS not Capo di Tuti Capo.
going to watch hannity h rips no name apart
hannity now on note
Btw, I left out the story about Obama possibly using his prayer to God left at the Western Wall as a kind of deliberate and twisted press release because the paper that published it said that it had been removed from the wall by a student at a Jewish seminary immediately after Obama left. It’s just not clear yet whether Obama’s people actually went out of their way to give it to the media, though my impression is that they are certainly sleazy enough to have done something like it.
#601 and 602–keep us updated if you can. Thanks.
#590 has the story read whole thing about last paragraph tells he gave it out
#584 mijabsnji ~~~Nov 1943
#603 Knoxville Puma on 07.28.08 at 9:02 pm
That is the prevelant hypothesis following this Knoxville. Heard similar take on talk radio this afternoon.
Have we considered sending the rude e-mail responses from delegates to the DNC? In some form?
If basketball talent is a criteria for POTUS, can we trade Obummer for Michael Jordan?
Knoxville Puma – I agree that Obama’s campaign is capable of anything. But, when it comes to taking action on something, I don’t feel at all comfortable standing on the shakey ground of hypothesis, conjecture, assumption. And, I think it detracts from credibility issues if we have anything less than something solid to point to. But, I surely agree that I wouldn’t put it past them to have released it. There’s just no evidence that they did which, for me means, I can’t take action.
By the way, thanks for all the work you do!
Research Donn Brazile, I now have her in my head and how she has soon much imput into the RBC.
After the post-election fight over votes in the 2000 United States presidential election in Florida, Brazile was appointed Chair of the Democratic National Committee’s Voting Rights Institute.
She currently serves as a superdelegate for her work for Bill Clinton.
Ironic isn’t it, that she earned her superdelegate position from her work for Bill Clinton.
Obummer doesn’t really want the Clintons to be out campaigning for him because it would give them too much exposure and he REALLY wants to limit their exposure to the public right now. And I really don’t get the feeling they are very enthused about him either.
I AM SO SICK OF NOBAMA I COULD DIE! Everytime you look at the tv screen there he is AHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha eheheheheheheheheheheheh. We can not let him become our president I can not stand to look at him for 4 years and listen to his stuttering crap. There I feel better!
Knoxville Puma
Newspaper article re note
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1005882.html
Yay!!! Dick morris says O is losing women over 40 by 4 points. Hope there are more of us than there are under 40.
I just heard that Nobama is losing women over 40.
Mountain song we are listening to the same thing I am impressed LOL
yes and thats whats keeping him down in polls and he keeps loseing them
Okay, I put up a blog. I am having trouble still articulating all of the things running through my head in regards to the Primary processes and all that has happened.
My reason for this blog is to post the wonderful pictures of PUMA I have found on the net…
Even though anyone can post, even anonymous, I am vetting comments so it does not get over-run by nasty filthy O-Bots, so please feel free to post, and put up your links to news, and any research. My goal is to make Business cards with my blog site on them, and I will have links to all the JSND Coalition on there by then.
This is how I hope to influence people I know and meet.
http://deadgirlsrise.blogspot.com/2008/07/puma.html
Wow, Dick Morris just admitted that ‘we’ Hillary supporters are Ob’s problem. He also said we are the ‘base, the strengh, the guts of the democratic party’. From Dicky boy, shocking.
Actually, the Canadian Free Press carries alot of our campaign news. It is a good site IMO. It even puts bills on their site that is going through the House and what it is. Many Canadians have dual citizenships, so the news here is important to them. Go there sometime and make your own opinion………It was just a suggestion anyways, but Trish would be better able to answer that one I think.
Say, what if the global PUMAs (no in the USA)send letters to the SD? stating how appalled they are by the way the DNC, the media etc.; have treated HRC?
Morris(not my favorite) says whole race will come down to this women over 40 thing I think he is missing there are men here too that will be big too
Jeez = dick morris (ick) just said obama’s problem is women over 40 – we don’t like him and get this we’re afraid of him – now that’s bullshit – I’m afraid of his thuggy supporters but not him – think I could take him down – I just don’t like him so there………..
Just turned on the nightly news and there was a discussion of VPs. Someone from *61’s camp was asked about Hillary and he said they wouldn’t chose her because she was the opposite of what their campaign is about. He said she was the establishment (or something like that) and they are about change. Well, he was right on one count, she is the opposite of what their camp is about ; she’s knowlegdeable, experienced, and a class act. And they aren’t.
Obama isn’t losing the women over 40, he has lost them!!!
Its the PUMA thing you all!! we are makeing a difference
Pookie……..I feel the same way. my blood pressure rises every time I see him.. And that fumbling mumbling VOICE OF HIS crawls right under my skin. I have red hair, and I swear it gets redder after looking at him.
If he gets in, I’m moving to South America !! just fed up with ignorant people and corrupt politicians.
dick morris is such a sleeze – said having hillary as *61 vp would be like being in a boat with a hole in it and drilling another hole to let the water out – go back to sucking toes you creep -
623 jane-pa
616 Pookie
620 hillfan4mccain
I don’t know about ya’ll, but I’ve never been into chicken legs myself. The opposition does know what they’re up to.
sorry – up “against”…
webfoot – my husband and i were talking about this issue that you just posted. i was saying how the party seems to have been taken over by a whole new group with an agenda i don’t fully understand. he commented that it’s his impression that dean, pelosi and the rest want to move the party further to the left, away from “clinton democrats”. if that’s true, then it’s hard to see how they’ll survive since it’s my impression that you have to rule from the middle. but then, again, demographics change and maybe those of us who are baby boomers, who are earning moderate incomes, who live in places obama seems to feel don’t matter can be discarded by the party because they feel they have built a large enough base of young people, people with high earnings, etc. i’m not sure what’s going on. starting to ramble….
#619deadgirslrise-thanks for the picture of Hillary in the rain on your new blog. It is one of my favorites too.
People were stupid enough to vote Bush in two times, so I shouldn’t be surprised by this Obama mania.. Quite honestly, I would prefere Bush over Obama..I just hate that man..just hate him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jane, Susie, and Hillaryistheone–That is were the “silent” majority comes into play. Most of us “guys” keep political views to ourselves, unless it is in a small forum–not all of us–but a majority.
webfoot ……would you send me the pic of Hillary in the rain….??
jwoods70@gmail
611 TerryDo
What work did Donna do for Bill Clinton – she was the presidential campaign manager for Al Gore.
Think how painful that was for Dicky boy to say. Cant stand that man, but he admitted Hill’s supporters are BO issue. He must be hoping we will all go out and buy his book!
#633 Anna7000–no Democratic Candidate wins unless they have the majority of the support of the conservative dems—also know as the “Reagan Democrats.”
#616 Pookie
I heard that too. Hannity said the election will come down to the women over 40. He mentioned Hillary’s women supporters who were not “buying” Obama.
594 BigCatLover on 07.28.08 at 8:56 pm Terry Do
Because she is on the Democratic National Committee. If you watch the video by Don Fowler, he explains the whole super delegate process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4G9DRvS3s
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Thank you, BigCatLover, it was very imformative.
Jeremy I think your right and you know they say silence runs deep. We sure need it here. Obama has a veru ego manic bad change in store for us I believe. Already talking about global citizen is scary and needs to be stopped now
#637 Kendalblue-just sent the picture.
Will posted these comments today.
Whow. just WHOW.
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“GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!
Do not email us again. Thank you.” — from Carolyn Warner, Arizona Super Delegate and former state senator, to a Democratic voter who requested that she help make sure that the Convention includes an open roll call vote as in years’ past, July 18, 2008.
Dick Morris is an Idiot…he is so intimidated by women. His Mother probably set him in the corner too many times!!!!
Just saw the Usa Today/Gallup poll showing McCain 4 points ahead, yipee! Maybe they will take us more seriously now.
Jeremy unless its by other means which I put nothing past him. He used our political corectness against us and who knows what now.
#639 hillfan4mccain on 07.28.08 at 9:28 pm
Maybe Dick hopes that Clinton will be on the ticket. He probably thinks the republicans will have a cakewalk if it’s Obama/Clinton. So maybe with the news that BO is losing women 40+… the BO campaign will panic and pick Hillary as VP.
But who ever knows what Dick is thinking?
Anna7000 ……. Well you are right. There is this new movement going on in this country .. The nobama campaign started recruiting college students 2 years prior to the primaries. His well oiled corrupt machine. BUT.. You are right on the other view also. The middle DOES count. And I believe at the end, he will lose because he has allianated the middle. And the middle class. I am 42 yrs old. But even I can see the massive change in the party. And it ain’t going to work. I just feel in my gut that mainstream people will win out in the end. I’m counting on it. I have always considered myself a liberal on a lot of issues. But mostly I am a moderate. The DNC and nobama are just to radical for me. And imagine that. I am a gay woman. OK, just outed myself here. But just needed to make a point. In the end, I think nobama will just be to far left for most democrats. He’s a chance we just can’t take. It’s our country we are talking about.. Not the leader of the boy scouts.
633 Anna7000
I think the Democrats don’t mind losing and election or two this time around. They seem to be marketing to GenXers and Yers… almost every corporation from automobiles to Hollyword films to clothing. They’re all trying to build brand loyalty. Generally, boomers have already established their brand loyalties, and are unlikely to change. The younger generations are fertile ground for marketers, right now.
639 hillfan4mccain on 07.28.08 at 9:28 pm Think how painful that was for Dicky boy to say. Cant stand that man, but he admitted Hill’s supporters are BO issue. He must be hoping we will all go out and buy his book!
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Have you ever seen so much hate, toward Hillary, oozing out of a person’s body like it does by Dicky boy.
When somene has that much negativity towards someone it is not healthy and he will eventaully have a heart attack, because sustained hatred and negativity hurts oneself and not the other person because sometimes the other person doesn’t even know there is that much hatred.
Dick, a little spiritual message, forgive and try to heal yourself.
PLEASE GO TO AOL AND VOTE~
ALSO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE PREACHING BOTS!! JAN THE BOT SAID NO ONE HAS MADE A SUBSTANCIAL REASON WHY BO SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT~ LETS GIVE A PUMA POUNCE!!!
THANK YOU!!
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/28/gallup-poll-shows-mccain-ahead-of-obama/5#c13408493
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webfoot…….thank you so much !!
Here is a letter from the Canadian Free Press:
You Madam Speaker are the ” total failure.”
July 18th, 2008
Dear Speaker Pelosi:
“God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States — a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject,” Pelosi told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer in an exclusive interview.
“This is not a record to be proud of, and I think the American people deserve better,” Bush said.
I stand with the President, madam Speaker.
You and Leader Reid are the prime reasons why this Congress’ approval ratings are lower than
the President’s and the lowest of any Congress since anyone has been measuring….
You have no interest in looking out for the citizens of this country, your intransigence over energy
and drilling illustrates that.
You Madam Speaker are the ” total failure.”
Mike Gilbert,
Melbourne, Florida
#615 MountainSong
There are a lot of us 40+’s because we’re the boomers! And we vote, and we lived through the 60’s and 70’s so we know how to stand up and be heard if need be! Do I smell a little fear in their camp?
think Hannity will have a good clip after break prob at end of show
#496 GOSUEF4HIL ,
Wow, I cursed Zogby and totally ignored their polls throughout the primary because they were so skewed in favor of Obi. I thought Zogby was suppossed to be a name you could trust? I guess not. I will never take them, Newsweek or PPP seriously. I believe rasmussen USA today and Gallup.
#303 taggles1
Here is a portion of an e-mail I sent to FOX the other day. Notice Nas’ remarks about guns and Israel.
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Coincidentally, Nas appeared later on The Colbert Report, accompanied by cartons of signed petitions, which he had unsuccessfully tried to deliver to FOX headquarters earlier. Mr. Colbert brought up Nas’ prior conviction on gun charges; he asked whether Nas’ violent lyrics induce violence in the ‘hood. Nas objected. ‘You miss the point. Why aren’t we talking about how the guns that say “made in Israel” got there in the first place?’ (Judging by Mr. Colbert’s lack of reaction, I assume he missed Nas’ anti-semitic reference.)Maybe you can get a tape of the show; it bears viewing. Then Nas sang a rap song, with lyrics that revealed the true motive for his assault against FOX and Bill O’Reilly: he thinks they hate Barack Obama.
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I got through most of the posts. I cannot believe the responses that have been posted from our so called leaders. I must remind them of one of my favorite poems:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
–Pastor Martin Niemöller
If we do not speak up now, there will be no one to stop this.
How can I get into public office? I’m sure I would not be doing any worse of a job if I tried. Seriously.
I heard on a news channel on in a Doctor’s waiting room that McCain was trying to put false ads out there blaming BO for the gas prices and how he didn’t visit the troops. I don’t’ care if it’s true or not, what really made me mad is the “reporters” saying they were trying to sway the un-college educated ignorant people that live in VA, TN, KY, WV… with these ads. You do not have to go to college to know how to think!!! These people are not idiots. In those areas many of them are my family and they are VERY smart, VERY successful and a few of them only have a high school or less education. Yes, have a college degree, but I do not think it makes me smarter than everyone. I may know more about my major or have an edge in making a debate, but there are more kinds of knowledge in life than just book smarts. Look at our elected leaders. College can’t fix stupid or ignorant. Just look at the responses we’ve been getting.
I think the reason they keep trying to make us out to be racist is the fact that they themselves might be racist. They just want to say they were part of the process when the first black man was elected to the WH. So they should pick a better candidate that could win the WH!!! I have no trouble voting for any candidate as long as they are qualified. BO’s race is not his problem. I think they have hitched their wagon to the first minority candidate they found and now they see the need to ride that wagon all the way to the convention because they can’t get off it without being racist since they have called everyone else that. They should have waited for one that wouldn’t set back the progress minorities have made.
ARG!
isnt the house like 7 % confidence
Having trouble sending messages.
Check out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/29/us/politics/29dems.html?hp
Interesting article about Hillary’s chances of being offered VP spot.
#662 jane-pa on 07.28.08 at 9:42 pm
Zogby would spin it like this–”The approval rating of Congress in in the high single digits.”
Also check out:
http://www.democracynow.org
Couple of interesting articles about Obama
revise= is in
#528 – Gallup shows that Obama is down to McCain today!
BTW, did you see this silly takeoff on Hillary’s revenge at the convention?
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/07/just-how-could-get-ugly-could-it-get-at.html
#661
If college could “fix” stupid then Obama would be far ahead of where he is right now. I used to know a lot of Harvard guys like him. We called them numbn***.
That’s great Webfoot. I plan to post gorgeous pics of Hillary, our protests, and the mighty and utterly beautiful PUMA, which holds a powerful symbolism.
#649 Indy
#652 Terry
The Clintons do ‘get’ to him, putting it lightly. I used to turn off the TV when he was on. Then one day I realized ‘that poor little man’ carries so much hate. He cant talk about the weather w/out a nasty line about Hillary. She has the power over him and he is trying so desperately to gain his footing. So he doesnt bother me as much. Dont like him, but my TV isnt getting hit anymore.
He does need to heal. You are right!
#653 SouthJerseyPUMA,
I voted , very cool, we are winning.
That poster ” The Two Faces of Obama” is great. Am printing off a bunch of them to distribute.
Here is a cool page, regarding the Puma Totems
http://wolfs_moon.tripod.com/cougartotem.html
Hi Everyone and Welcome to all new members…Yes, #626 Hillaryistheone, you are Right…He has lost the votes of women over 40…I am 45 and I know for a fact that my friends and family who are over 40 will be voting for McCain in November….This is solely based on sending a strong message to the crappy DNC (Which I am no longer a part of…I changed my party to Independent…Enough already!!!…NO MONEY, NOT FALLING IN LINE AND MOST OF ALL NOOOOOOOOOOO VOTE FOR BO IN NOV. FROM EITHER MYSELF OR MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS…PERIOD…OK, I feel better now…I just can’t believe what other people seem to think???We are not cattle…And, yet you see people being herded like sheep…Incredible…. Here’s a quote I found interesting…”Someone once said that a con man (BO) job is not to convince skeptic’s but to enable people to continue to believe what they already want to believe”….That to me, says People Want Change, But the only Change Bo offer is Bull Sh…!! Remember, WORDS, JUST EMPTY WORDS….How sad is that!!!
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=21475
Another ’situation’ breaking out in the myBO blogs?
Anyone have an account over there?
653 SouthJerseyPuma
thanks for that connection, it was from there I found this, very interesting!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_QYCy689c#
I wish they would play that every day. How could anyone see it and not hide
#668deadgirlsrise-I already added your blog to my favorites list.
KendalBlue YES YES YES…I used to think that I hated GwB more than ANYONE. Then I met BHO. Now in comparison I LOVE GwB…BHO is the WORST human being and the DNC and those supporting him AGGGGHHHH!!!
This would make a great political ad for McCain…Who is the ONLY man hated more than George Bush….NOBAMA!!
This ad paid for by John McCain for President
#655 kendalblue-you’re welcome.
Just an FYI, Morris (who I don’t like either) said it was from the FOX polls that he found it was the women over 40 is where the gap is for guffy. Great news for us and Senator Clinton.
re#678 JFH
yeah that would be a great ad for PUMAS but in the general public it could bring you some problems with the “hate” stuff ..you know the MSM would have a holiday with that one..
Any woman voting and/or supporting BHO should start thinking. When they trashed and de-valued Mrs. Clinton remember that she was EVERY WOMAN. I will NEVER forgive them…every single one of them. NEVER. NEVER
oh right…how about this…
Who is the only man more UNLOVED than George W. Bush…NOBAMA!
just curious, does anyone have a number on how many PUMA members there are currently? I just read all those responses from our democratic “leaders”. They have to go. I fobi loses, they will be toast, that is why they are so upset.
672 awesome thank you
#682 jenniforhillary,
me too, I will NEVER forgive or forget what they did. They have to resign.
casper cat…
ditto
664 Jeremy love that spin:)
I say RESIGN now, and we won’t include corporal punishment….
Anna7000-I written a response to you twice and it has disappeared twice. Sigh. Good insight on you and your husband’s part.
Hmmmm I wonder how they will try to spin it when they lose, Brazilnut will no doubt pull the race card.
See our view on Obama’s campaigning by means of photo ops overseas and his failure to visit wounded troops in Germany at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org.
Obama says, “We did it really well.”
We say, “No, Senator. You didn’t.”
No true Democrat will validate the selectee who sleazed off with a nomination that he did not earn and does not deserve.
tcb4n all
On right now:
Monday 7/28/2008 at 10:00pm ET. Dr. Lynette Long will share with us her expertise in how the caucus system undemocratically skewed delegate selections across the nation, to Barack Obama’s advantage.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/07/29/Caucus-Irregularities
#684tadgher99-I don’t have a number. Not a helpful answer; just didn’t want you to feel ignored.
On CNN, Dr. Gupta talking about possibility of McCain having reoccurance of Melanoma.
#683 jenniforhillary…In fact GWB is looking better when you put him up against BO!!! I thought I would never say that!
i’ll tell ya what…if I was the McCain people I would seriously go after 2 incredibly important constituencies that were Hillaries strongest supporters and who were not thrilled at all about Obama..
..they could give McCain a significant victory come November..
..women ..especially over 40 and… Hispanics..
#695 webfoot, lol, thank you!! I was wondering!! I appreciate it
re# 696 mpdamon..
sounds like an Obama plant to me.. you can bet the Obama people are going to be pushing that (too old,too sickly)line strongly
#696 — Typical of CNN — Thought the good Doctor Gupta would be above this. Anyone who has had some type of cancer or a family member who was diagnosed with cancer knows that recurrences is a possibility. Sad that someone uses the media to remind everyone of the reality they already know.
#614 MsBinMD,
Thank you for the link! It’s buried in the story a bit, but it looks like the paper that initially published the prayer has said that Obama gave them permission to do so and that HE DID RELEASE THE PRAYER AS A KIND OF TWISTED, OPPORTUNISTIC PRESS RELEASE.
Can he really be so blinded by opportunism that he had no limits to his sleaziness? It just doesn’t seem possible…
Obi’s hip problem could reoccur too if he keeps running around the world pretending to be president!
#702 Knoxville Puma on 07.28.08 at 10:12 pm
Read #696—no he has no boundaries or limits—unbelievable.
letting my imagination run wild here..with what ifs..
what if Obama were elected president and later it was revealed that he did in fact use crack cocaine or sold it and engaged in some homosexual affairs..
could he be impeached?
Hi PUMAs,
Quick question. There are people here on YouTube saying that they won’t vote for BHO, is that okay to email them and tell them to join us?
re#706 anon..
email them..why not?
#705 freepuma,
To ensure that he could be impeached, I think he’d have to have lied about it after being elected and before it becomes an established fact, AND we’d have to have a Republican Congress.
#706—I think that is a question better answered by Murphy or MarylandPuma. YouTube chat is a big domino. Just my opinion.
705…good question
BAD VIBES – WHO’S WHO?
PUMA, I think we are being played by racial agitators. Please be careful to diffuse all racial hostilities the best that you can. The hairs on the back of my neck have been sticking up as I have been reading some of the postings on blogs around the internet.
I believe that BO has shown African Americans just how much loyalty they can expect from him. Now, they may choose to stand by him because they know that there is some racial discrimination against him, but I doubt that they are going to go and get crazy radical over his business. But I tell you that there are those out there who would have it so and I do not believe they are of any particular race, but of a nature that is ugly.
I am neither perfect nor bigoted, but I have lived my life with respect for diversity and we must focus on inclusion to achieve our goals. Please have a care.
#702 KNOXVILLE
Earlier, MarylandPuma posted two links relating to this issue.
Couldn’t find the other, but I had this one in my History.
I agree, pretty sleazy, even for him!
702…anything to win…but someone said that it would turn the Jewish vote against him
#706
Why not?
If it’s done in an informative manner like:” thought you might like to know there’s a group, etc, etc.”
#706 anonymous on 07.28.08 at 10:18 pm
Dunno… but you can drop PUMA bombs everywhere. Sign up for a temp email addy (because you’ll need to register in places). Go to video game blogs (average age are 18-24 males), tv show blogs, technology blogs and ease your way into discussion and then find a non obvious way to say that you hang at blog.pumapac.org
The best way to make these comments known about people who write these horrible, demeaning responses is to call them out in the media. So here is a challenge, most papers have op-eds, write one, many papers want to hear from their readers. Sure, you probably won’t get one in the NY Times, but start small. Call these individual people out. MAKE THEM KNOWN, quote their terrible responses. Write to the Republican party and tell them about how they are treating ordinary people. This is the best action.
I wonder is Brazilnut’s threat in her response to keep all the emails on file and somehow gain some revenge illegal? That is so facist! Keeping files on people who disagree with you for revenge at a later date. Sounds like the Gestapo!
Im just tired dead tired….bewildered.. disgusted….but then i know the American people have more sence than to buy what they have seen
RE: 357 with_you
Your right i cant believe they have shut down Larrys site again OMG
BHO HAS SO MANY THUGS WORKING WITH HIM ITS SCARY WE MUST STOP THIS NUT !!!!!!!!!
THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH !!!!!!!
Did anyone else see Pelosi on the View today she said that bho has earned the right to pick who he wants on the ticket with him and she sure it wont be Hillary !!!!
Because she said Hillary wont be on the ticket OMG this women must be voted out of office i live in Calif. and im doing everything to make sure that happens !!!!
She is so jealous of Sen. Clinton !!!!!!
re#711DC
diversity is always good ..BUT
if you have logic and truth on your side and you are not a racist then I would speak my mind without any fears or hesitation..let the chips fall where they may
Peposi can ……………well you know
There are some people out there who claim Hillary would be “embarrassed” if her name is on the ballot for nomination at the convention. I claim that’s a load of DNC bullsh**.
Hillary stayed in the race when it seemed everyone was telling her to get out. We all know about the Monica Lewinksy set up (of course it was a set up…who saves a dress like that?!) If THAT didn’t force Hillary into hiding…I doubt having her name on the ballot for nomination (where the delegates will either vote for her or against her…in usual DEMOCRATIC form) is going to embarrass her.
The DNC wants us all to believe that Hillary doesn’t approve of what we’re doing. Hmm…let me see…exercising our right to free speech, fighting back against an UNDemocratic primary election, fighting for what (or who) we believe in, refusing to simply fall in line and support someone we don’t trust…yeah, looks like she’s got a lot disapprove of. If she didn’t approve of us, she’d say so. Have you heard her give a WELL THOUGHT OUT speech against us? I haven’t.
There are some out there who claim it’s over when in fact it isn’t. If Hillary thought she had no chance at securing the nomination she would have ENDED her campaign…she didn’t. These are the same people who claim Nobama is the Democratic nominee…he’s the PRESUMPTIVE “Democratic” SELECTEE…and he might as well enjoy it because when the convention gets here, he’ll just be the guy formerly known as the PRESUMPTIVE “Democratic” SELECTEE who got his ass handed to him by the NOMINATED Democratic candidate…Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Don’t believe me? If the DNC believed Nobama was the BEST choice they wouldn’t be fighting like crazy to keep Hillary’s name off the ballot for nomination.
So don’t believe anyone who tells you it’s over, that we lost, that Nobama is the nominee. Since it appears we’re living in the twilight zone, I think it’s fitting to use a quote from one of my favorite shows (The X Files) “The truth is out there” and here it is:
IT ISN’T OVER
WE DIDN’T LOSE
HE’S NOT THE NOMINEE
Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of the same UNDemocratic donkey sh** Nobama and the DNC are.
#706 anonymous on 07.28.08 at 10:18 pm
Hi PUMAs,
Quick question. There are people here on YouTube saying that they won’t vote for BHO, is that okay to email them and tell them to join us?
Anyway you would consider changing your log in name?
She is jealous of HRC. She has some nerve telling us that she will not be VP, congress has awful approval ratings, she should try doing her own job insted of sticking her nose where it is not needed. I hope she loses her seat big time.
at radio blog come on over
Can any of the threats Donna Brazile made be admissible in a lawsuit?
Are there any lawyers or PIs here?
#719 TLCPUMA on 07.28.08 at 10:28 pm
Didn’t see it but heard about it on talk radio this afternoon. They said she contradicted what “the citizen of the world” said when he was interview on Meet the Press. Also, it was inferred—I said inferred—that she was “speaking to the women” that watched “The View” and made some erroneous responses in order to get that attention.
Anyone from the Atlanta area here? or just GA?
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1300
Smithsonian Institute report reference Nostradamus predictions
725 lots of radio blogs…type in the url
The next scheduled radio show at No We Won’t is for 7/30/08. They are replaying last night’s show now.
re#729 LP
sounds like some Obama plant that works in the Smithsonian wrote that just like someone did at the wailing wall with the fake note
There is a youTube that goes with the post. I will link it in a second.
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“Our National Nightmare…
…is almost, well, about to end… we hope.
However humorous this new MoveOn.org ad, people don’t vote on hope. In fact, this actually mocks what many of us are searching to find: someone who can offer solutions to the nations problems. It also takes a lot for granted.
Obama’s now been on the defensive for days over his canceled military hospital trip. If you’re explaining, you’re losing.
Frankly, this ad is way too laid back for where Barack Obama stands today with the American voter. We got the “hope” message. Where’s the beef? More importantly, where’s the laser targeted hits on McCain’s voting record, on veterans and womens issues? Relentlessness wins. Humor does too, but only when directed at your opponent.”
Hurray, hurray!! My demographic finally matters! I am a white, married 43 year old woman w/ a masters degree, work full time w/ two kids. Finally, the stupid DNC may see that I am not falling in line w/ their pathetic threats of Roe v. Wade et al to support some empty suit that they have chosen.
Anna700- I agree- I have always considered myself a very L leaning liberal but understand to govern, you must be in the center. You cannot ignore half the population of the country by being far left or far right.
I think Dean is on a real power trip and is living vicariously through Barry since he failed miserably.
And on election night, when that map is flaming red, I am going to be a proud middle aged woman who voted Republican for the first time in her life as a gesture to the DNC to take us seriously.
mijabsnji – I will have that glass of wine now (gaygirl-if you are here, I will have the scotch)
jenniforhillary-if you leave the country, let me know where you are going, perhaps we can move to Israel and live on a kibbutz
Knoxville – I don’t think the paper that printed the prayer saying Obama gave them permission to print it is solid proof that he sent the prayer out as a press release. First, the paper has a lot invested since they were boycotted for printing it. Second, the fact that Obama presumably gave them permission to print it isn’t the same as him sending it out as a press release. The timing isn’t clear. He easily could have told them it was ok to print it once the whole hoopla began. Third, all the photos of his prayer that I’ve seen are of a paper that’s been folded in several places. If he sent it out as a press release, it wouldn’t look like that.
In fact, I thought the article that a lot of folks embedded links to made Obama look like a sympathetic character. Geez. There were rabbis defending him and feeling so badly that his privacy and rights were violating by having the prayer removed by someone. So, all in all, I think there is still no reliable evidence that he sent the prayer as a press release, and even worse, he comes out looking like an innocent victim. At least that’s my take on it.
Trust me, I’m the last person to defend Obama, but I do think internet rumor and fact can blur, especially when emotions are running as high as ours are each day.
On right now:
Monday 7/28/2008 at 10:00pm ET. Dr. Lynette Long will share with us her expertise in how the caucus system undemocratically skewed delegate selections across the nation, to Barack Obama’s advantage.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/07/29/Caucus-Irregularities
#734 GOSUEF4HIL,
Donna brazilnut already told you the “New democratic party” does not need you!
#734 gosue4hil – loved your post – insightful and hysterical!
re#735 anna
who cares what farrakhan …oops .. i mean Obama wrote at the wailing wall..its all BS anyway
#722 I agree 100% with you. The DNC forced Hillary to give her speech to suspend alot sooner than she had planned. Hillary is a very strong woman and she stands up for what she believes in. We are not falling in line as they hoped…..oh darn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BncNpB6IZ9I
attach to #733. It is from MoveOn.Org regarding HOPE.
#739 freepuma – this is true
#740 4hillinca – you raise a point a lot of folks have raised, ie, hillary being “forced….” while also noting how strong she is. for me, it’s a contradiction. if she’s strong, she can’t be forced. at the end of the day, she’s a politician let’s not forget and is looking out for her job and her future in politics. i believe she made a choice she felt would serve her best interests. i believe she is remarkable strong, very savvy and wildly inteligent. i don’t think the dnc could force her to do anything. i think the situation became complex and she made a decision that she felt would be in the best interests of her political career (and, perhaps, the party). i think we underestimate her when we suggest she’s being forced to do anything. i think everything she does is highly calculated as it should be for anyone working at that level in politics.
just my perspective….
hi all made it back
I hope that woman will be ok
re#743 anna..
you hit the nail on the head..
Barring a miracle in Denver..
Hillary is thinking 2012
Hi Jane-pa
Shoot, IMissed about all the show.
#743 Anna7000 on 07.28.08 at 10:58 pm
Kudos Anna! What you said is exactly why Nancy Pelosi is running around trying to scare people, the reason Howard Dean is trying to mend fences on HIS tour, and why Donna Brazille is threatening to use old emails. It took 3 plus more to gang up on 1…supported by big money, big lies, big names (lol), big threats. If that doesn’t speak of affirmation of power…I don’t know what does.
TVAlert everyone – for those that can stomach it, Nancy Pelosi on Jon Stewart in about 20 minutes. Should be interesting and nauseating…..
But right now the show is hilarious….Gotta love Jon…
Evening PUMAs! Sorry I haven’t been on. Busy weekend. I can’t stay on very late I’m afraid. We did alot of yard work and I am sore as heck.
#11 snowtiger
They are also showing just how scared they are of us. We’re big, getting bigger, and we won’t back down. They’re used to bullying people around and getting their way and it’s just not working with us.
hi I missed a lot but hope some thing will come of it
Hi- made it here! i hope that caller with all that info has the smarts to get it OFF her puter and stored on hard disk- like in a bamk vault someplace. And I hoep she has home security of some kind. Not too bright giving her name on air like that- too many lurking trolls
#17 murphy
Probably the same reason BHO is the presumptive nominee. (yes he’s only the presumptive nominee Obots. Get your heads out of your (Insert bad word here)) Ka-ching!
Sorry about the mis information regarding the radio show—but the page it sent me to did not have a scheduled program for tonight.
#743 I think they could make her life very difficult politically. I agree she did what she had to do and she will continue to do just that. Maybe forced was the wrong word.
pmm your right
someone posted waaaaaaaaaay back in the thread, wondering how big we are as a movement. i’ve wondered, as well. seems like whenever i sign a petition, the numbers are usually hovering around 5,000 give or take. i assume it’s the same group of us circulating to these various sites and signing these petitions, pledges, etc. so then my question becomes, for each one of us who are out there on blogs and taking action, how many others are there who don’t know about us, or who are not inclined to participate in this way. i think that’s impossible to know. but, even if there were 10 people for every 1 of us who was like-minded, it would still suggest a relatively small movement with respect to the millions who support obama and the tens of millions of dollars being raised. that said, we are pretty astonishing, no?
http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-western-wall-prayer.html
Anna, the second link basically talks about how Ma’ariv was not the only newspaper to receive the note, just the only one to publish it.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/25/israeli-paper-publishes-obama-western-wall-prayer/
#715 IndyPUMA
I don’t think I am qualified for the video game blog. I am 27 years old and I am a woman.
I’ll ask Murphy’s permission.
Thank you guys.
GoSue4Hill and Jenniforhillary- If Obama gets into the White House I’m coming with you guys to live on the Kibbutz – we can continue kvetching there!
well I left a late message but was short
Hey, Gosuef4hil #734, I agree….I have a JD in Law…I never wanted to pound the pavement as a lawyer…But, I am a Real Estate Investor (Not a Real Estate Agent) and have been for about 20 years….I am very successful at what I do and I work for myself…I went to law school when I was 32 to help my business and to save alot of $$$…And, that was one of my best investments…You, are soooooooo right about not falling in line with the crap of Roe VS Wade….Get over it DNC….That is done and over……And, by the way, I am a half breed… My mother was Dutch/English and my Father was full Apache Indian…So, I guess I am just your typical racist white person???(As per Donna Brazilla comments and BO’s)…UNBELIEVEABLE!!!! But, on a good note I just put my poster’s of Hillary on by office wall and in the Hall of my home…I will never give up on Her…Never!!!
#755 4hillinca – yeah, good point. i would agree that her life could be made harder, politically. already is. there’s a really intense power struggle going on in the party right now. it’s like the new, farther to the left wing vs the clinton era, moderate wing in battle for control. but i have so much faith in clinton’s ability to work very hard and very strategically as a senator right now toward any larger goals (i hope) she has. how it will all play out is anyone’s guess. i hope and pray obama, dean, pelosi et al will implode. i can just hear the republican’s champagne classes clinking! mine will be, too. never thought i’d be saying that, but who thought things would be going the way they are.
haveing to much trouble posting tcb4n see ya tomorrow take care
#743 Anna7000 I agree- HRC is a strong and wise woman who knows what she is doing. I don’t think she was forced but I do think she saw the writing on the wall and in an effort to save her career, she suspended. That is the world of politics, she is a politician.
What pisses me off is that Barry sold half the democratic party a bill of goods that he isn’t a “typical” politician and the John and Jane Q Public bought it hook line and sinker. He is as much of a politician as any and what is really frightening, I think he has been in it for himself the whole time. I see no evidence that he was ever motivated to serve a greater cause then himself.
Obamabots STILL believe that he voted against the war, when I engage with them (I am a sucker for punishment) they still site his opposition to the war and still believe he actually voted.
When I challenge them on his voting record, well you know the face, you have all seen it before
Going to try and stomach Pelosi onJon Stewart and then turn in…good night all…Tomorrow is a new day to prowl and growl and hopefully purr!
#23 jane-pa
Woah! Can you cite a source for this information? I’d be very interested to learn a little more about this.
# 758 pa dem – i read the 2nd link (thanks for posting it). i still don’t think it confirms anything. all it confirms is that more than one paper received the note. as far as i can tell, it could have been the same note peddled around untill finally some paper decided to break the rules/law and publish it. it still doesn’t confirm in any way for me that a press release was mailed out from obama’s campaign to newspapers with his prayer.
i’m sorry. that’s just my take on it and can’t take action as it currently stands. i wish it were clearer, but it’s not, at least for me.
#757 Anna= i have counted 35 asult voting mebers of my family who are not active on the net but are not voting Obama. My hubbie’s family- about 27 more. Where I work- we are a small restauratn about 25 employees- only one voting party line- not thrilled with Obama. i had a dscussion with him Sunday and explained that o is NOT THE NOMINEE that does not happen til Denver. This person attended Hillary rallies with me so I tried to get him up to speed on how to call the delegates etc. We gto itno a long talk and I think I brought him around to see the dangers of voting the party line when they have subverted Democracy.
My husband’s job- he has converted a bunch, but most went right from Hillary to McCain. We are in PA and my gut feelong is the state goes red if the DNC continues on this suicide pact. There are a LOT of PUMAs who don’t even know what a PUMA is! lol
#765 – totally agree!
#766 – you’re a stronger woman than i to brave pelosi on tv!
#769 – loved your story. thanks for sharing it. it’s encouraging! (i live in bo infested waters and it’s rough going with folks in my community – ugh)
762 CasperCat- cool- join Lorelai & jenni & gaygirl& normita & all the other villages on the kibbutz if this empty suit wins the POTUS
#766 Lorelai on 07.28.08 at 11:16 pm
Looks like Pelosi is spreading around on the media coverage today. It you are still around, would be curious to know what she tells Jon.
These Democratic “leaders” sound like a bunch of bullies. I have read other quotes in the past from these bullies that absolutely shocked me. I couldn’t believe that people who run the Democratic Party could send out emails like this to their constituents. Someone should gather all of the outrageous quotes in the last seven months and publish it as a PUMA book.
Anna-Unfortunately, with the media being what it is, I think that’s as close as we are going to get to “the truth”. McCain’s note was never published, yet Obama’s was by one of the most widely read Israeli newspapers. His campaign will not “confirm or deny” releasing the note. To my mind, an Obamanite took the note from the wall, probably paid for it (he paid people to hold up signs at caucuses after all). Because Ma’ariv is such a widely read paper, I find it difficult to believe they would have published it without his permission in the first place. They would have expected a potential lawsuit otherwise.
Just a reminder to all PUMAS:
Please use http://www.pumapac.org web edress to refer voters to our pages.
I will be adjusting the logo and our documents tomorrow to reflect the change.
This will direct visitors and prospective members and the just plain curious to our home page which will give them many options to explore without throwing them directly into the blog.
Admit it, blogging can be quite daunting, intimidating, and cause a lot of misunderstandings if one is not familiar with the ettiquette! LOL
#32 janeb
Thw whole “happy dance” thing was just a global joke as well. I never liked Oprah to begin with, but I respected her. I’ve lost all respect for her now. She’s as bad as him.
Just have to say, it takes a lot of chutzpah for her to write a book for women called “Know Your Power” after the shennanigans she pulled on a woman.
I’m amused that she thinks we’re interested in how she went from Housewife to Housespeaker….ugh. Okay,
now I’ll shut up. oy
pelosi is just an aristoratic blue blood elitist who has nothing better than to sit up there on a throne and make life and death decisions for the peasantry.. bith the GOP and DEMS have em..
PA DEM
You have mail from from another PUMA via the mail lady –
# 769 Proudmilitarymom,
Thanks for that great post! I, like you have many in my family and lots of friends who are Pumas but don’t blog.
I send emails and talk to them every chance I get.
My dad is a die hard democrat, he loves and voted for Hillary in the primaries.
He is so disgusted that he says he is staying home on election day.
I’ve been out of the country and not around any news sources. Can someone answer two questions:
1. How was Obama’s European trip financed?
2. What is the status of Hillary’s debt?
Thanks for any updates you can provide.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
I just want to cry over this Caucuses fraud,,,they even sent the abuse to the media and the did NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#650 KENDALBLUE~~~ I kinda had a feeling. Totally in agreement with you. I, too, am a gay woman and I don’t believe he gives two hoots about us. It’s all (and only) about him.
#743 Anna7000
You know I was really upset when one of the articles in early May ran on Yahoo said that in 2004 Hillary asked John Kerry if he wanted to put her as a VP, and he didn’t. So, they claimed that she wanted to be a VP this year. It REALLY PI$$ed e off.
#466 murphy
Thank you murphy for fielding that question for me. I had to go offline and didn’t see the posted question in a timely manner. You explained what I meant perfectly. In fact, probably better than I could have. (smile)
Am most definitely NOT a frustrated, middle-aged housewife!!!
RE: women over 40
Well, talk about waking the sleeping giant. These fools have no idea. They thought they could just push us around AGAIN. This time it is not only us but probably a high percentage of their spouses or significant others as well as their offspring and also their parents.
Add ‘em up. Ouch. DNC has no idea what’s comin’ their way.
Colbert is totally ripping the Obamathon from last week. He said he hopes he brought back the present he asked for ” A concession speech”…..Yes, Go Stephen Colbert.
#781 taylorgrob1 on 07.28.08 at 11:27 pm
I’ve been out of the country and not around any news sources. Can someone answer two questions:
1. How was Obama’s European trip financed?
US taxpayers when related to “the Senator” finding out facts or adjusting his positions. When the en tourage left Germany, “the Citizen of the World” picked up the tab, along with his newly painted 757.
2. What is the status of Hillary’s debt?
According to Will Bower—and this is NOT his word–he talked about it last night on blog radio–”I don’t want to diminish fundraising attempts, but regarding Hillary’s debt…it could be safe to say that it is o.k.” Something to that. Hope this helps….and I hope this does not end up in HTTP 500 h—.
#53 Vonay
I don’t know about that. Most of Hollywood seems to be Nobama pro
Hey Dances, you on?
Hello and good evening all… I am back from Chicago and I just wanted to say that I sent an email to Deans “man” regarding how the supers are talking to the people that write to them.. I informed him of my change to and Independent too… sent a copy to mamapuma.. will try to catch up on the Prowls!
Still a Hillary Fan..and talking to everyone I can. My relatives are aware of who Obama really is and they are Puma’s at heart!!
hey, Gosuef4hil, I am already on Normita List and I do get her emails…Thank You for suggesting the info..I was on the former HRC Site and moved forward to Puma Pac. I may not always post but, I am doing my share and spreading the word…sometime’s I just get so busy and when I see soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Many blogs to catch up on I get crossed eyed!!! HA! HA!….But. Murphy and all of the rest of you who help to bring this wonderful site together…THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!!!!ALL OF YOU ARE DOING A OUTSTANDING JOB!!!!ALL OF YOU, ARE IN MY HEART AND PRAYERS…A Big Hug to all of YOU for the Hard and Dedicated work you do day in and day out!!!! All of you are very special and without YOU We could not achieve what we are doing……”The richness of human experience would lose something of rewarding joy if there were no limitations of overcome”…Helen Keller
A nna7000: Whether Obama gave his so called prayer as a press release or in a permission to use it after, asyou call it hoopla goes down is irrelevant. Once again, the Machiavellian uses anything to promote his own empty image. Now it’s the use of a tradition of the Israelis and their ritual leaving of prayers at the wall. Before we have his sitting in a Church for 20 years and saying he didn’t know what was going on…Nothing is sacred for this hardened Machiavellian pragmatist, without boundry or limit or reverance. He is the great leveller, his calls in fact are to mediocrity, not excellence and his message is totally secular, without any spiritual substance or value. He is an empty hollow well. Feigning religious gestures is a Pharisees approach to reality. And, such an approach is phony and dangerous, as well as insulting. He needs and deserves no defending here or elsewhere for his crass and crude uses of religion and religious gestures.
lorelai–a kibbutz, an island, a pontoon. I will ONLY live in a NO BO Zone
Thanks Jeremy. So did his campaign pay for any of the European trip?
pumaindy…add in women under 40 and we will wipe UP and knock DOWN
BMW60
Glad to have you back!
the DNC should be a rock-sold neutral,balanced and fair arbiter in dealing with the candidates and elections..
it seems they have abandoned that role and now have taken on the role of opportunistic ideologues who have sunk so low as to threaten ,harass and force dissident voices into submission.
sounds like the death knell of a major party and the birth of a third party..
Maryland: Thank you!
#90 chrissieD
I would LOVE to know where Alice Palmer is in all this and what she thinks of it.
NewOrleansPuma – had not made that connection of the pattern until you so eloquently posted above.
I undertand Anna7000’s reluctance with no hard evidence, but this does go to pattern and predictability.
(Can you tell I served on jury duty this year?)
Anyway, I wouldn’t trust a word that comes out of Bo’s mouth because he is completely what he said he was not when he started campaigning….a politician who is in for only himself and will destroy everybody in his way to get there.
So, if we don’t have rock hard evidence on the Wall, we certainly have motive, pattern and just enough to keep widening the gap between perception and reality.
#796 taylorgrob1 on 07.28.08 at 11:39 pm
His campaign began to pick up the tab when the other Senators, i.e. Chuck Hagel, etc. went their own seperate ways and his “O” 757 flew over to snatch him up. We paid for all of it through Germany. After that, his campaign footed the bill—thus the controvery around the hospital troop visit. It was probably a 60 (US) 40 (O) split—and I am being conservative with those numbers.
Welcome back BMW60 and Taylorgrob…you were both missed. Hope you are doing ok BMW60….hard week, I know.
UPDATE regarding Obama distributing his prayer to God as though it were a press release is now up at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org.
#735 Anna7000,
Have you seen the update at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org already? When you say that you don’t think that the paper that printed the prayer “saying Obama gave them permission to print it is solid proof that he sent the prayer out as a press release,” are you referring to the article at Haaretz.com, which has reported that that’s exactly what Ma’ariv is saying?
Frankly, I think that the statements of the editor of Ma’ariv are sufficient evidence for me to write what I’ve written.
I wouldn’t have written it without some evidence, but seeing that the editor of Ma’ariv has said what he’s said, I say that it’s perfectly acceptable ammunition.
Let the sleazy weasel explain it.
Let the sleazy weasel deny it.
Please see the UPDATE at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org.
pa dem – i agree that what we have is as good as it’s going to get. it’s just not solid enough for me to contact sd’s about. i think the notion that an obama plant took the note, sent it to the press, etc is absolutely reasonable, but there’s no way to prove that’s how it went down. bummer.
thanks for all of your work putting that mini prowl together. i just don’t feel able to act given the lack of conclusive evidence.
meanwhile, there’s plenty of established facts about him to go on as i prepare to send out my 4th letter to all the sd’s. but, i think targeted prowls can be effective because they can speak to specific issues and specific groups (another reason why i think it’s great to contact local elected officials – hits them where they feel it most – loss of votes and money).
pa dem, you’ve been great. thank you, again.
791 Maryland PUMA
Hey Dances, you on?
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“Present”
@802Lorelai: Moreover, we now know his patterns and can extrapolate logically from them to prediction. His pattern is to use whatever he needs to use to get whatever he wishes to get in the moment and in the long run. The content of Obama is irrelevant, because there is no content to be counted upon, except a content that will change to get what he wants in the moment. And, that is why he is both a Pharasee, a Machiavellian, and an empty void.
The ethical problem people have who do have boundries regarding language, action, non action is that there are certain things and areas beyond which one can not go , while still retaining integrity and the truth. This is certainly not Obama’s issue. He has no boundries. We who seek to defeat him must run to the very edge of our boundries or we become as he. However, pointing to and showing the pattern is precisely where we can refute him and defeat him.
He feigns and lies and qualifies beyond one on one confrontation but his patterns reveal with no doubt or question his intent and purpose. These patterns are facts and upon these patterns we can and I do assert judgment and rejection.
#795 jenniforhillary ~~~ I know exactly how you feel. I can’t imagine living in this country if he is elected and there is nothing we can do to change it. I have nightmares about the destruction of life as we have known it. And I believe with all my heart that is exactly what he has in mind, regardless of his ‘hope and change’ facade. Everytime he or his wife open their mouths I am more convinced.
464 Murphy -
If we are unsuccessful in turning the tide WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. Plans are being laid TODAY to take our message to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada in September and October.
Please, lets do more prowls to the delegates before the convention. Ray agreed it would help.
deadgirlsrise
Nice pics on your site! I will leave it up in a browser tab so I can see the pics whenever I want. I love the Hillary In the Rain photo. That’s so classic and classy. What a gal. I miss her.
Come back Hillary. Rise Hillary Rise.
#765 GOSUEF4HILL
A couple of weeks ago we had a festival, and McCain held a table right across from BHO. I sat in a recliner chair with Johnny folks. A guy who was drunk came over to us and said “McCain”? I was very excited because I immediatelly thought that he would register to vote so I said: “Yes” with a smile. He said again, but louder: “McCain”? (I got scared and got up from the chair and stood behind a guy who was with us). Then Obamabot said: “Are you guys kidding me”? I was really scared because I thought that he would attack me.
I am reminded of the movie:”Omen, the Final Chapter.” and I have to believe that, although Obama has no boundaries, neither does Love and that the good will ultimately triumph over his evil.
#794 NewOrleansPuma,
To call Obama “Machiavellian” is an insult to Machiavelli.
At least Machiavelli cared about his city and its well-being…
KNOXVILLE -
Thanks for the additional info. I have copied what we have and am hand delivering to a couple of contacts tomorrow.
Good enough for me! We just have to keep on keepin’ on!
Hi everyone!
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Where ya been?
heidi li on blog radio right now
*61’s Prayer Note at the Wailing Wall
I’ve been reading your posts and just needed to add my comments.
The Israelis recaptured the Old City of Jerusalem in 1967 during the Six-Day War. Subsequently, they regained control over the Wailing Wall. Hundreds perhaps thousands of famous people have visited the Western Wall and none of their prayer slips were printed.
Fast forward to 2008, what is the likelihood that only *61’s prayer slip would be snatched and printed in an Israeli newspaper. As Pumas, we know that he will do or say anything to get elected. Come on folks, this was managed by *61’s campaign. Enough said!
Let’s move on to our mandate to defeat him and purging the corrupt party politicians.
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I am crossed eyed. I have working on the delegates lists for SG
OK FIRST I THOUGHT YOU WOULD GET A KICK OUT OF THIS~
4 Jailed Attempting Citizen’s Arrest on Rove
In other news from Iowa, four people have been arrested for trying to make a citizen’s arrest of former White House Deputy Karl Rove. The four were stopped outside a Des Moines country club where Rove spoke at a Republican fundraiser. The four were retired Methodist minister and peace activist Chet Guinn, as well as three members of Des Moines Catholic Worker.
JUST ANGRY WHITE FOLKS I GUESS!! LOL…
#816 goandersen
HI GO! *PUMA HUGS*!
Is Anything Sacred?
Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv was lambasted for printing the note that Obama placed in the Western Wall, allegedly stolen by a Yeshiva student. “Notes which are placed in the Western Wall are between the person and his Maker; Heaven forbid that one should read them or use them in any way,” said the Chief Rabbi of the Western Wall. “This sacrilegious action deserves sharp condemnation and represents a desecration of the holy site.”
But according to a statement from Ma’ariv yesterday, the paper alleges that the Obama campaign actually leaked the note to reporters before Obama even placed it in the wall.* Yediot Aharonot, Israel’s most popular daily, claims to have also received a copy of the note in advance but decided not to print it.* As a Ma’ariv spokesman told the Jerusalem Post:
Barack Obama’s note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel [Western Wall], a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.
The Obama campaign is denying the note was “approved for publication.” At this point, it’s their word against that of the two Israeli papers. Obama may be above politicizing our troops, but if they did approve the note for publication before he placed it, then I guess he isn’t above politicizing religion.*
*Post updated to reflect the Obama campaign’s denial.
–Zvika Krieger
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/28/why-are-these-people-in-charge/#comment-70650
I think some here would know this site, but wanted to remind you all if you have someone who doesn’t know about all the lies Obama has told take them to this site:
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented-lie-50-obama-claimed-he-had.html
ANOTHER SCAM BY BO’s PEOPLE LEAKING THAT~ THE AUDACITY!!!
90 LIes and counting up above!!!
EWard -
Amen! We just can’t make everything so difficult or we will do nothing.
If we present our case, either written or verbal in the right manner i.e ” I read this”,” What do you think about this?”, etc, I feel we are covered.
re#809 MS..
I would have preferred Hillary as president to deal with this mess we have in America..but at this point no matter who gets elected we are on the eve of a tectonic shift in America that will shake the very foundations of American society..
many trends experts seem to agree America is heading into a second great depression and with that the attendant ills that go with it..divisions in society along many lines,civil instability,rampant poverty etc etc..(we can see the fault lines showing up now)..
..some of us will survive,some will not..
I live in an upscale neighborhood here in my area and in the last 2 years I have seen my neighborhood hit hard with home foreclosures..for sale signs all over the place,job losses due to the housing bubble,off sourcing..etc etc..
it’s ugly to see lives and families destroyed by a system run amok..I only hope there’s still enough time left..all we can do is just try..
BMW60
THANK YOU! AWESOME!
#822 (((((((((((((((InuHanyou1701)))))))))))
481Knoxville That’s very funny! Nonetheless, Machiavelli cared only in so far as what was done for the city .retained his power. While there is a difference in one doing something ..one caring …in order to retain power and one feigning a care in order to get and retain power, both Machiavelli and Obama operate from the same premise: the I, their own comes first and whatever must be done to sustain that will happen,,regardless of what suffers…city, people, or any other thing. Neither of these positions is sufficient for one to be called and to be a true leader of the people.
I AM LOVING HANNITY RIGHT NOW!!! GOOD NEWS FOR MC CAIN!!
#819 EWard,
Excellent points. Didn’t Pope John Paul II the Great leave a prayer at the Wall? I don’t recall that prayer being published.
#757 Anna7000
#769 ProudMilitaryMom
I think the fact that even we do not know how many “Puma like” voters are out there is exactly the reason why we are the big wildcard in this whole election. This makes them extremely nervous.
I have been thinking very hard as to how we can increase our memberships and the number of hits on our site, because they will pay great attention to it.
re#832 SJP..
just to show you how cynical and twisted things have become….
normally I would despise Sean Hannity…. but now I love to hear him disassemble Obama like no one else can..Sean Hannity love him or hate him ..hes one sharp cookie that one
#832 SouthJerseyPUMA
What’s he saying?
#832 SouthJerseyPUMA–What is Sean saying. FOX is not on my package—I am going to change that this week. First thing tomorrow.
#831 NewOrleansPuma,
Machiavelli was a republican (in the sense that he believed that citizens should rule their own city). He only wrote the Prince after the Medici returned to power and after he was tortured for having worked for and supported the Florentine republic.
As a Humanist, he believed that if one had to live under a prince, one had to give the prince the best advice possible in order to benefit the people. His only purpose in advising the prince to maintain power was to say that it would free the people from instability and chaos.
Machiavelli is greatly misunderstood!
#835 freepuma I Rush to Sean every day when I can. That is how they are advertized here. Rush L starts at 11 -2 and Sean picks up at 2 and goes to 5–never thought I would tune in.
#835 freepuma
I ditto this!
If that’s ok.
#813Mountain Song: Oh, Mountain Song, I so agree with you. We must pray to bring that forward now and forever. Actually , quite a while back I put Barack Obama at the top of My Holy Spirit Hit List…yes..hit list.
What is that? I pray that the Holy Spirit will blast down upon him and all of him the intense light of the Truth, reflecting this Truth for all with eyes to see and heart to respond.
I also pray that the Light of the Truth will be focused in each person’s mind at the voting booth.
#823 SouthJerseyPUMA,
Do you have a link to Yediot Aharonot claiming to have received the prayer too?
ASKING FLA GOV IF HE IS BEING VEETED FOR BO’s VP~ HE WONT ANSWER
ALSO HAD SOMEONE SAYING MC CAIN JUST MAY KICK BO’s TUSH WITH WOMEN OVER 40~ TALKING ABOUT THE POLLS
FLA GOV IS SPEAKING WELL OF MC CAIN
HUCHABEE SAYING BO’S CAMPAIGN IS RUNNING NOT SO WELL BY HIS PEOPLE
re#839 jeremy
I’ll tell ya something sean hannity would be a killer advisor to a candidate..
he is such a smart man..and his rhetorical and logic skills are unbeatable
I found these links when doing a search on the Gov. Rendell statements. The last link is a PowerPoint slide file that lays out Obama’s strategy for getting Pennsylvania… which is a key state. I notice Obama’s slide show also includes FL and OH as needed states… imagine that.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/The_inimintable_Ed_Rendell.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Rendell_on_Clinton_backers_90_of_us_are_there.html
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_paconference.html
KNOX~ SORRY NO… I WANTED TO READ WHAT HE WROTE~ IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT?
I don’t know if you guys have seen this but it is a well written article and this news service has quite the following.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=195006
re#840 In..
you got it pal!
Howdie GoA…!!!!
As far as the Wailing wall goes- Obama and his henchmen completely orchestrated that.
As they did the crowds of 75K, 200K and they clearly pay off the MSM to drop that piece of the report.
Everything-EVERYTHING- you see about Barry is calculated.
When the smoke and mirrors fall away, what are the Americans going to be left with?
Dick Morris is now my shining light (this really is the Twilight zone)…GO FEMALES OVER 40!! ROCK ON!!!
Hannity tells it like it is and truthful. You are right–like him or not. Today he kept talking about how he was not looking forward to going to his wife’s brother’s wedding and getting prepped to counter any fans of “the citizen of the world.” One of the callers (O) bot got in and challenged Sean to say just one positive thing about (O). He told the guy that he was not going to change his values or positions —and that he was himself—and also told the caller that he had nothing personal against (O) but he wasn’t going to lie either. Yeah–he is smart!
if sean hannity were to have free for all debate with Obama..sean would kick Obamas butt all over the place
845
u r z best!! i suck at searching!! lol…
#841 NewOrleansPuma
Great way to pray! I agree completely.
at the end of show he will show the tape from net. If people saw this they could never vote Bomma. I saw it earlier. I have seen this online cannt remember where now. its a should see Hannity of course:)
Knoxville: I don’t misunderstand Machiavelli. I reject the nature of his advice for the purposes he stated.
just popped in to say hi and nite
#819 EWard ~~~Right on, EWard.
#844–I was thinking the same thing this afternoon when I was listening to him advising McCain before he came on the show. He says he loves talking to the people—and loves what he does—and I don’t doubt it for one minute—but I feel that Sean will some day be a paid advisor—another Tony Snow.
PUMAs I have to head to bed. About to collapse.
I’ll see you all sometime tomorrow I hope! Night everyone!
Good night all you Pumas…and Knoxville, surely was nfun having a little mini dialogue about the big M….see what all those Obamorons are missing spending their time trying to create more obscenities instead of sharing ideas, even in snippets!
Hannity wants to debate “the citizen of the world.” He has challenged him to come on his show. Sean even said that he would have gone to France last week if “the citizen of the world” would debate him. I would pay for a back row seat and cherish the front row.
whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….
i will record the end of hannity~ i jsut saw what he said “you dont want to miss~ bozo n his trip~ looks interesting!!!! then i will try to upload!!!
#847 Seattlegirl ~~~Obama is America’s ‘Berlin Wall, dividing one people, as far as I am concerned. Tear HIM down and we can get on with the business of what America is all about.
ya know if I was the McCain campaign I would listen to sean hannity..he is right-on when he says Obama is being a liar and a fraud to the american people by not telling them the truth about who he is and what he really thinks and feels..
also sean points out that Obamas past associations with known terrorists and racists are being hidden by his campaign ..
these are excellent issues to counter Obama with
#827 MsBinMD & #833 KnoxvillePuma
Thank you for your comments. I agree that we must not lose focus of our goals. Pumas and other JustSayNo groups are the wildcard voters. I meet many people that do not trust him and they aren’t blogging on the Internet.
The key to defeating him is:
1. Follow his money
2. Drive up his negatives
3. Writing to party officials and delegates
4. Writing to the media
5. Follow ACORN-I believe these are the campaign people fanned out across the country for *61 to GOTV. They have a history of voter fraud.
6. Plan for the worst and expect the best.
Before June 7, no one knew anything about Puma Pac. Now, we are all over the media outlets and trying to keep the party honest and defeat *61.
BTW… this link was posted before but I couldn’t resist commenting.
http://www.thelocal.de/13337/20080728/
The headline of the above link should read: Barry Gets “Obama-ed”
Obama-ed is when you let down your defences and after they’ve got what they want from you, you discover they aren’t who they say they are. Ironic that he hates when it happens to him….
#864–MountainSong—I like that. Good analogy. Can I use it?
Good Night everyone. Thanks for all your hard work. Tomorrow we start again.
goodnight…. see u tomorrow
#862 Jeremy
Mr. “I welcome that debate” doesn’t have the balls to face Sean Hannity any more than he does to face McCain.
Besides, we all know that without a teleprompter and the scripted words of his speechwriters, he can’t utter anything more intelligible than “um” and “uh.”
Via satellite. Not in person. Via satellite.
http://www.politickerca.com/jeffmitchell/1612/hillary-clinton-address-state-and-local-employee-union-convention
Clinton (D-New York) is scheduled to appear before American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union delegates on Thursday, organizers said. The senator is also expected to use the trip to the Golden State to do some fundraising to help retire the debt accumulated from her recent hard-fought bid to become the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee.
Joining Clinton — via satellite — will be the presumptive Democratic Party presidential nominee, Barack Obama.
PUMA lament..”sometimes I feel like a motherless child”..
..we hope and pray Hillary isn’t selling us down the river with Obama
Let’s invite this woman to join PUMA:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/28/EDCC120QOH.DTL
“While I and many other women in my demographic (older, professional, liberal) are likely to vote for Obama in November, our feelings about his party (and ours) are not so clear. We remember the perpetual misogyny and sexism of the media during the primary campaign – misogyny aimed less at Hillary Rodham Clinton herself than at “uppity women” (like ourselves) in general. And many of us feel that the Democratic Party is even more to blame than the media.”
33 years ago I had a vision~~It was of the end of life as we know it. And I have been watching events unfold in the exact same procession since then, most notably with the explosion of Mt St Helens. But economically and socially as well. Watching Obama’s rise sends chills up and down my spine with the premonition that this may, indeed, be the False Prophet.
According to the Mayan, Totec, Navajo and other native calendars and prophecies, the world as we know it will end on Dec 21, 2012.
I’ve seen absolutely no reason to dispute that in all these 33 years since I was first blessed with the vision.
Now is the time for the best of us to create our greatest good. Believe me, it WILL have an affect on the outcome.
#864 well said Mountain Song.
Today there was an article on CNN.com, something like “Where is Hillary”? It was about how she had not been seen on the campaign trail for BO so what was she doing, it implied she had ignored her duty as Senator for the time she was campaigning and so she should now ignore it to campaign for BO. There were 5 comments attacking PUMAs, Hillary and Mc Cains age so I commented something like The BO people used sexism against Hillary and it looks like they are going to use ageism against McCain. I am sick of their prejudices. I was for Hillary the best candidate in the primary but since the DNC forced her out I am now for McCain the next best candidate. There is no circumstance under which I will vote for BO as he has no experience and I love my country. We don’t need a poseur for president at this point in history.
Well they eventually posted more than 175 comments most of them slamming PUMAs or Hillary but somehow I got stuck in moderation for ever. So I guess you all probably knew this but CNN censors their comment boards which to me means you cannot trust anything they say or their polls.
#856 NewOrleansPuma
[[Knoxville: I don’t misunderstand Machiavelli. I reject the nature of his advice for the purposes he stated.]]
Sorry, but I must defend Machiavelli. If you reject the nature of his advice for the purposes he stated, then you misunderstand his advice and the purposes for which he gave it.
Maybe it would help to remember that Machiavelli lived at the end of the 15th and beginning of the 16th centuries, not at the end of the 20th and beginning of the 21st centuries, a time in human history when we have a superior political system that puts people like George W. Bush and Barack Obama into positions of power.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on Machiavelli, I suppose.
#854Notfollowint thepied piper: Missed your comment before I checked out so…glad you concur. Actually the Holy Spirit hit list has been pretty successful…I put Tom Delay on it…he’s gone…and when Dennis Hasert (spelling) said on tv, after seeing my devastated New Orleans on tv after the storm…”Looks to me like a bulldozer should be taken to the whole place, he went so fast to the top you couldn’t imagine how fast…He is gone too! That last placement of him…was definitely not as “pure” a prayer as one would like…i.e. as he went to the top and everytime I prayed I wanted to take a strangle hold to his former wrestling coach neck…!Oh well, we do the best we can! Good night again all. Sleep peacefully in the truth. Awake with the joy of the Truth and fight on, fight on for the TRUTH!
#874 pa dem
“While I and many other women in my demographic (older, professional, liberal) are likely to vote for Obama in November, our feelings about his party (and ours) are not so clear.
What we Better do, those of US, is to take a good hard look past his charisma at his proposed taxes, economic proposals and military strategies, his background and associations~~~do some serious soul-searching and decide if this is truly the direction we want to see our country go in, especially knowing that this may be our last and only chance to get it right. Time is shorter than we realize. Praying to whatever Higher Power you recognise is a good idea, too.
871 Firebelle Puma on 07.29.08 at 12:47 am
Mr. “I welcome that debate” the balls more intelligible than “um” and “uh.”
Yep Firebelle–those are good names for em if they exist. It won’t happen because “um” is looking for “uh.”
The (O) is a joke…joker…as in “Evil Knight.” There has been a comparison to the new Batman flick and what is happening. Got to research more regarding that.
#868 Jeremy~~~By all means, Jeremy!:)
Free~ i hope not also!!! i will be devastated if that is so~ i just think she is a political hostage in some sort of way (?)
I and almost the entirety of my family is or rather was democrat. No more I have three brothers and a sister all with spouses and two parents all of whom voted for Hillary they do not blog or participate in polls, if the phone rings and they don’t know the caller they let it ring. Who answers thier phone today with caller id. Noone I know and I am sure pollsters do not leave a message.
#875 MountainSong
I have a tattoo on the top of my right foot — a Mayan totem carving. Mid 2008 is predicted to hold the beginning for a rise in consciousness. 2012 is predicted sacred — the shift. I’m not sure what “scared” or “the end of the world as we know it” means, but I know I made a conscious decision to get a tattoo on the top of my foot — one of the most sensitive areas our body. Ouch! We are all in an “ouch” moment, but enduring, thriving, pushing through.
re#875 MS..
many people these days dismiss out of hand things that down through history people have believed in ..one of them being “signs” and “portents”..
it’s all happened before and will happen again..things change,yet don’t..
…this may sound crazy but this actually happened to me….I live in a forested area with big trees..during the primaries I was working out in my yard and I kept hearing that annoying and irritating “caw caw” of mocking birds …I looked up at a tree across the street and I saw that crow..it stood there for the longest time..much longer than normal “caw cawing” ..I felt as if it was mocking me and telling me that Obama would be the nominee..I suddenly had a weird feeling and said to myself..”oh my God, Hillary is going to lose and Obama is going to win”
….tell me do you think I’m nuts?? please don’t laugh at me
#877 Knoxvillepuma
Roflmao.
I’m trying to catch up and that just sent me for a loop.
884 gay gal ~~~Sometimes our conscious mind is not very aware of how connected we really are on another plane or level. But I think yours is. BTW, I am a ‘gay gal’ too, and that’s also part of the vision.
My tatoos are an OM sign with a long stem rose on one side and a butterfly on the other over my left breast, and I have an angel, kneeling and playing a harp under a rainbow in the clouds on my right shoulder.
Stay strong, cling to your hope, no matter what, because we are as the coccoon, who just when thinking it is near the end, emerge into the new life of a beautiful butterfly.
#875 Mountainsong,
That is fascinating. I would love to hear more but, this isn’t the place. Being one who travels a less followed path myself, I noticed awhile back how many of us are here. I posted it some time ago. Odd that so many of us are in one spot with a common purpose.
Maybe we need to form a sub-group.
Mountain Song: I perhaps picked the wrong section out of the article to post here. The article is *very* anti-Democratic Party, but by someone who has obviously not yet found PUMA
FYI—the analysis is getting legs–and NO–I am not a Dubya Fan even though I am a Texan. But think about it. The NEW Citizen of the World is the Joker.
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What Bush and Batman Have in Common
By ANDREW KLAVAN
July 25, 2008; Page A15
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That’s not a bat, actually. In fact, when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind of like . . . a “W.”
Warner Bros. Pictures
There seems to me no question that the Batman film “The Dark Knight,” currently breaking every box office record in history, is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. Like W, Batman is vilified and despised for confronting terrorists in the only terms they understand. Like W, Batman sometimes has to push the boundaries of civil rights to deal with an emergency, certain that he will re-establish those boundaries when the emergency is past.
And like W, Batman understands that there is no moral equivalence between a free society — in which people sometimes make the wrong choices — and a criminal sect bent on destruction. The former must be cherished even in its moments of folly; the latter must be hounded to the gates of Hell.
“The Dark Knight,” then, is a conservative movie about the war on terror. And like another such film, last year’s “300,” “The Dark Knight” is making a fortune depicting the values and necessities that the Bush administration cannot seem to articulate for beans.
Conversely, time after time, left-wing films about the war on terror — films like “In The Valley of Elah,” “Rendition” and “Redacted” — which preach moral equivalence and advocate surrender, that disrespect the military and their mission, that seem unable to distinguish the difference between America and Islamo-fascism, have bombed more spectacularly than Operation Shock and Awe.
Why is it then that left-wingers feel free to make their films direct and realistic, whereas Hollywood conservatives have to put on a mask in order to speak what they know to be the truth? Why is it, indeed, that the conservative values that power our defense — values like morality, faith, self-sacrifice and the nobility of fighting for the right — only appear in fantasy or comic-inspired films like “300,” “Lord of the Rings,” “Narnia,” “Spiderman 3″ and now “The Dark Knight”?
The moment filmmakers take on the problem of Islamic terrorism in realistic films, suddenly those values vanish. The good guys become indistinguishable from the bad guys, and we end up denigrating the very heroes who defend us. Why should this be?
The answers to these questions seem to me to be embedded in the story of “The Dark Knight” itself: Doing what’s right is hard, and speaking the truth is dangerous. Many have been abhorred for it, some killed, one crucified.
Leftists frequently complain that right-wing morality is simplistic. Morality is relative, they say; nuanced, complex. They’re wrong, of course, even on their own terms.
Left and right, all Americans know that freedom is better than slavery, that love is better than hate, kindness better than cruelty, tolerance better than bigotry. We don’t always know how we know these things, and yet mysteriously we know them nonetheless.
The true complexity arises when we must defend these values in a world that does not universally embrace them — when we reach the place where we must be intolerant in order to defend tolerance, or unkind in order to defend kindness, or hateful in order to defend what we love.
When heroes arise who take those difficult duties on themselves, it is tempting for the rest of us to turn our backs on them, to vilify them in order to protect our own appearance of righteousness. We prosecute and execrate the violent soldier or the cruel interrogator in order to parade ourselves as paragons of the peaceful values they preserve. As Gary Oldman’s Commissioner Gordon says of the hated and hunted Batman, “He has to run away — because we have to chase him.”
That’s real moral complexity. And when our artistic community is ready to show that sometimes men must kill in order to preserve life; that sometimes they must violate their values in order to maintain those values; and that while movie stars may strut in the bright light of our adulation for pretending to be heroes, true heroes often must slink in the shadows, slump-shouldered and despised — then and only then will we be able to pay President Bush his due and make good and true films about the war on terror.
Perhaps that’s when Hollywood conservatives will be able to take off their masks and speak plainly in the light of day.
#885 freepuma ~~~ I don’t think u are nuts~~~ but the crow could have been making a racket because something was threatening it’s nest and babies….much like we are doing now.
I also live amongst big trees, in the mountains of the Pacific Northwest, which has always been considered a sacred, magic place by the natives.
Crows are as notorious as tricksters as are coyotes~~~meaning Hillary presumably lost the ‘primary’ and O is the presumptive winner.
But none of them wrote the ultimate script for what will be and we are all players on this stage of life.
All I know is to always ‘follow the sheperd, not the sheep’.
Even the ‘hippies’ felt it during the 60’s and 70’s.
#885 freepuma & mountainsong
I had a dream just after I turned 20. I was speaking to a large crowd. The crowd was overly excited, elated, then elation turned to anger, rioting. I kept saying “Wait, Wait, that is not what I meant”. I have thought of that often during this time. The crowd hears what they need, want to hear. This time they “needed” Nomane. They needed yet another form of false god to justify their own hopelessness, their own visions of “magical change”.
re#888ST..
come on ST..lighten up and relax..for God’s sake we are only human..and the very fact were here means we are all on the same side..
I enjoy the human side of PUMAS and please don’t be so intolerant of our fellow human beings
I like MS story and feel it has a lot of relevance to what were all about.
Wow tried to post this before and was told I was posting too fast.
Anywho I am going to bingo this Wednesday clad in a hillary t-shirt the area where I plan on attending went huge for the Senator from New York. So I will wear my shirt and should anyone question why I will be armed with plenty of printed info to offer including this and the other 200 plus sites fighting for the same cause. I won’t speak unless questionned but then I will be ready. Never played bingo before but it sounds like a hoot.
Here’s a more accurate summary of the article:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/28/EDCC120QOH.DTL
“First, of course, is the failure of the party leaders to comment on the sexism rampant in the media, especially the liberal media, for months on end.
Second – and this factor bothers me, and no doubt others, perhaps the most: Why did the superdelegates move in such numbers to support Obama? Why did this occur, especially after Clinton victories?
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So many women feel that the election was somehow stolen, and by their own party, to boot. They thus feel much the way many Democrats feel about the 2000 election: bitter.
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That’s just how I feel. And they want my enthusiastic support? The Democratic Party can fend for itself.”
#888 snowtiger~~Perhaps we already have, guided by the Creator.
Yes, many of us are on the same page, in the same book. My last word this evening before I leave to dream, is to “Never underestimate the power of a Woman.” Especially a whole bunch of us. LOL
Good night everyone. Love you all.
re#894 henry..
henry wear the shirt proudly and talk to people.. and I wish you good look and hope you shout BINGO!! many times
#893 freepuma I think you mis interpreted my post. I am interested and fascinated by moutainsongs vision. I also have posted before that there is an unusually large amount of people here who follow non-traditional religions. I wasn’t being glib or snide. If thats what you meant.
I also agree that it is relevant. As are many little coincidences I have sen here that others may have missed.
My post was sincere.
good night MS
night moutain song
and I do believe you are right.
re#889 ST
ohhh..I’m sorry ST..forgive me for misinterpreting your post..sorry
ok taped the end of hannity~ going to upload to u tube and will post that link~
#849 BillieJo
Hey there. I was listening to No Quarter Radio with Dr. Lynette Long.
I have learned that you need to be able to interpret visions accurately so I do not worry about them anymore and I don’t think you guys should either because you can’t control them. I don’t know why we have them or what purpose they are supposed to serve. I too have visions but I find it sort of creepy. I never foresee anything of importance but I see mundane events in detail that is creepy. For instance I will involuntarily visualize a scene like coming home from school by going out a door I would never use and notice all of the people and cars that are present in detail and color. In a few days something will happen to cause me to go out that door and the people and cars will be just like I saw but there is nothing of importance in the event. So I had one of these I think (because I never know for sure until I live through the repeat). It was the winter olympics in British Columbia and people were not able to get through to events because the US President was going to be present and the security was in the way becking up the crowd, the President started talking and it was a woman and that was all. So I have been very curious but other than curiosity I have no idea what it means. I believe a major change is due but I do not feel it is negative unless you are a person for whom all change is negative. But what do I know?
freepuma
I just thought it might be a great way to keep this message alive. I am sure many who attend bingo are not internet savvy and may get thier news form the local stations or cnn(gasp) and any chance to reach the electorate with the truth could be very handy.
902 no problem freepuma
I know how odd it is for us to run into each other except on sites that are designed for such things. Which is my point. 
I’ve already met at least two others. And can probably name three more who post late night.
Odd don’t you think?
re#906 henry..
I love Bingo and it brings back such sweet memories of my childhood when I used to go with granma every wed to st elizabeths in Denver to play Bingo..
This is to MountainSong while she sleeps:
“A place of sound before syllable, symbol before alphabet, OM before Word. A place of primordial, when language was fossil poetry, the brilliant picture before the deadest of word. ”
This moment, our fight to stop Noname, is that place, that time, before the magical thinking of the deadest of word “change”.
freepuma
maybe revisit those memories might give you a chance to pay homage to granma as well as spread some awareness that SHE may yet rise.
Before I go to bed… has this link been posted yet?
http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-western-wall-prayer.html
3905 seattlegirl,
You know more than you realize but , I think you know that.
Anyway back to politics.
A Doule Triple Yuck
I blocked orca winfrey from my cable using parental controls and just stepped into the living room and found her program being rerun at 130 am. I can’t wait to call comcast tomorrow and complain. I don’t want that vile creature coming into my home.
AAGHHHHH
I am so upset by the Amy Everhart quote, I need to vent. I am so poed. Does anyone live in Texas? Does anything know more about her? I am feeling really vindictive right now……and thats bad. Luckily I’m not writing any letters, but I’m fed up……its time to write articles to local newspapers…..name names, expose this totally egregious behavior. I am FED UP. I am so over this bs………TIME TO TAKE ACTION
#911 mzebest,
Heres another link on the same story. More revealing.
http://whatsuddenly.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-gave-media-his-western-wall-note.html
Henry, if your “granma” was to rise, I hope she just ignores you, like she probably wanted to while she was living.
matt2008A: Which quote??
#917 pa dem
The one on the top of the blog……where she calls us losers
Anyway I have some dirt on her……not very successful and ran caucuses for BO in texas……can you say caucus fraud….
I wonder if private attorneys will consider investigating caucus fraud…..
ouch gay gal
i was referring to getting the message out that Hillary could still pull this off—- rise and she referring to senator clinton
my grandmother was an intelligent strong woman born into a time and an economy that afforded her little opportunity and i have always held tremendous respect for her and her trials
matt2008A: Did you listen to the radio show tonight by Dr. Lynette Long about caucus fraud? I think you’d find it interesting.
gay gal..that was sort of mean to say that to henry
915 snowtiger
Thanks… there’s a ton of links available on this subject now. I think I have a total of at least a dozen related topic links.
freepuma
thankyou
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/07/do-you-agree-with-obamas-stand-on.html
Site to take people who think they may want to really see if they are Obama supporters… good questions and documentation here.
Good night all.. I need my sleep to get ready for another day.
#889 Pa Dem i went in there to. A very good article and i also invited her here. She is showing the feelings as we do. She is deffinately upset with the DNC
night mzebest
#926 sandipuma: The best part is, we got there before the bots did.
#920 pa dem
Just read it….its pretty good
Im still really angry….. (angry face symbol)
Lynette Long is a great Lady and excellent writer.She is so devoted to Hillary. When i was on aol and we were on buddy list she would write a article and ask me what i thought.I really enjoy her.
How’s about this: Rise, Henry, Rise. I didn’t say “orca winfrey”.
Pa Dem yes we sure did. As 2 had left messages that were not like ours
obama-bot programming
1.say hope and say change
2. say racist pig
3.if logic or reason is inputted– go to #1
4.if #1 is input is logic or reason go to #2
5. if 12345 do not work then get the hell out of there!
Funny how the R (Republican) word doesn’t affect me as much as it used to…who woulda thought.
My newspaper always likes to recieve articles from the readers….especially about elections. I was thinking of writing one about how BO supporters threatened me and others, called us racists……and then quote some superdelegates and some of their nasty comments. Then say how we are not going to take that bs and that the more they do it……the more we are repulsed by BO.
I think that sounds pretty good……
#934 pa dem
I used to cringe at the word republican, but now their party is nicer to Hillary than the Democratic party
democratic party has gone over to the “dark side” with Darth vader Dean as the enforcer..
“may the farce be with you”
matt2008A: Just for you…
Texans stocking up on firearms
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/post_106.html
good morning¡¡¡
I believe that if our platforms
do not bring out of the closet guffy´s dirty cloth
and show americans
how he really is
we will have him as as the demo candidate
and that is like playing russian roulette
he could be the president
and that will be the end of america
as we know today
we probably will have a country
as politically corrupt as russia
if to get in politics
he has used dirty ways
if to get nominated
it has been in the most corrupted & harass way
what kind of president would you expect him to be
he is already acting if he had been the nov. winner
he acts that way , because I DO NOT KNOW WHAT KIND OF DIABOLIC PACT HE HAS WITH THE MEDIA
AND NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES NOTHING HAPPENS
IT DOES NO EVEN MATTER IF HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITEZEN
#938 pa dem
thats very interesting…..
Goodnight all
guys as I said before you can also go to http://www.yahoo.com
click on the answers link in the panel on the left hand side, then signup if you a new answer or login. many people are asking questions abt O and most of the questions coming from college people and also people in the 18-31. go answer some questions. you can browse in the open catergories until you find them or you can go to the politics and goverment category.
Email: letters@mg.co.za
*** this is the end of the Hannity show for Monday night~
The Child~ [=bozo] and obamacon’s [lol]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0drwfnGlF_E
i found it already on the youtube~ had a hard time trying to upload…. it has already had just short of 40,000 hits~
interesting view~ and sarcastic story~ very well done!
many kudo’s …….
comment~ & rate
Hey msn says that Mccains ahead in the race. OMG I hope they wake up now and appoint hillary
PUMAS, and I am one of you, I will not vote for Obama. I know full well what the term and logic means. I get it, have for many months before PUMA even started. I agree with the first interpretation, “Party Unity My Ass”. I have agreed with it for the 12 years that I have been registered with the IND Party. Do not assume, or presume, as presumption is assumptive (as we all know), that someone is a troll or drank the kool-laid because one PUMA confronts another.
TOPIC: MEDIA
Murphy: That is great news, the NY Times is writing prominantly about Obama’s very weak polling numbers…
But too bad for Donna & I’m kinda glad if she saved my PUMA emails. If she ever writes to me I’m gonna write back w/one sentence, “Hey Donna, how come your candidate can’t close the deal?!!!”
TOPIC: Meanwhile, in a small town in Northern Washington…
(snowtiger you might like this story since you’re a store owner)
So I was in a little antique store about half an hour south of Sequim, Washington today. And overheard the store owner & a customer commiserating over gas and food prices and pharmacy bills & there’s no one to vote for for president. Then the guy says “too much of a good ol’ boys club in Washington,” so I piped up and said “Yeah well maybe it’s time for a good ol’ GIRLS club,” then (bad) the guy says this sexist thing about “I can’t vote for a woman under a “certain age” ”
SO I said “Well THAT’s good, that means if Hillary Clinton were on the ballot you could vote for her!”
And he says (good part) “I’d vote for Hillary Clinton in a heartbeat!”
So of course that’s when I walked out to my car & brought him back a PUMA flyer.
Hey, what are vacations for, anyway?!! ;D ;D
TOPIC: Last one out turn out the lights
OK I Need to go to bed.
snowtiger I just wanted to tell you I tried to catch up on posts a little tonight & I liked your Paul Revere poem for Murphy!! I hope we can have a PUMA dinner party in Denver & someone can read it to her.
Nite-nite! Canada here I come. Northern Neighbor I don’t know if they’re ready for me!
p.s. the nicest thing about Canadians is how POLITE they are. And they are GREAT drivers – like driving in Nirvana compared to the U.S.!
TOPIC: Obama buttons:
Campaign buttons show Obama with Larry Craig
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
An image of the mistaken button, courtesy of CNN affiliate KPVI.
(CNN) – Barack Obama likes to stress his willingness to work across party lines, but Republican Sen. Larry Craig probably isn’t the Illinois senator’s top choice when it comes to showcasing his bipartisan credentials.
But campaign buttons mistakenly featuring those two politicians surfaced over the weekend under the Obama campaign’s motto “Change You Can Believe In,” according to CNN Idaho affiliate KPVI.
The buttons, created by an Ohio-based company called Tigereye Design, was supposed to feature Obama alongside the Democratic Senate candidate in Idaho, Larry LaRocco. A retired editor for the Lewiston Tribune noticed the mistaken buttons and printed them in Sunday’s edition.
LaRocco’s campaign says the buttons weren’t ordered by them, but rather a commercial firm that sells campaign memorabilia.
Craig, who was arrested last year for allegedly soliciting sex in an airport men’s room, is not running for reelection.
THE SHELL GAME
(or Smash the Wailing Wall with the Bus)
BO ‘appears’ at Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, pre-dawn, on July 23. ‘Coincidentally,’ adoring Israeli fans appear to greet him, holding banners pre-printed with his name, in Hebrew, and his web address. “The visit did not appear on the official schedule nor had it been anounced (sic) by the campaign, but dozens of people were waiting for him, apparently tipped off.” People in Israel were not too pleased with the great and powerful O.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70454
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/obama-visits-we.html
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70454
Two days later, he returns to the Wall, this time, to deposit a prayer. And lo and behold, Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv published a copy of the note, claiming this had been taken from the Wall by an unnamed Jewish yeshiva student. In Israel, putting a prayer in the Wall is a sacred communication between man and God. Needless to say, the fecal matter hit the fan. Only this time, people felt sorry for Mr. O. But they were furious with Ma’ariv.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331104493&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
A rival newspaper, Yediot Ahronot, Israel’s most popular daily, now insisted it also had the prayer, “but decided not to publish it to respect Mr Obama’s privacy.”
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13021.htm
On July 27, the Jerusalem Post reported an Israeli attorney asked the AG to launch a formal investigation into Ma’ariv’s actions and invited a national boycott the newspaper for its blasphemy, asking customers to cancel their subscriptions. Now a Ma’ariv spokesman admitted that “Barack Obama’s note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel, a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.” “Obama’s campaign has neither confirmed nor denied whether the prayer published by Ma’ariv was in fact written by Obama. A campaign spokesman, however, made clear that the campaign hadn’t approved the publication of any kind of prayer note.”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
That same day, a Jewish seminary student just ‘showed up’ at an Israeli television station to apologize for his involvement in what he described was a “prank” involving the note BO supposedly placed in the Wailing Wall. “The boy claimed he was not the one who took the note out of the Wall, but he was the one in possession of it afterward. He said a bunch of friends were at the Wall, and he is not sure who took the note out. One of his friends said he found it on the floor. Another said he took it from the Wall. Later on, they TRIED (emphasis added) to sell it to an Israeli newspaper.” Israeli television blocked his identity.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/27/student-apologizes-for-stealing-obama-prayer-from-western-wall/
In sum, 2 days after he desecrated this Jewish shrine with his political campaigning, BO wanted to change the subject. (Then again, maybe he wanted to appear more saintly. When Pope John Paul II visited Israel in 2000, he provided the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs with a copy of a noted he would place into the Wailing Wall; the Ministry published his note.) (No one disturbed the note His Holiness placed in the Wall.)
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2000/3/Letter%20Placed%20by%20Pope%20John%20Paul%20II%20at%20the%20Western
#950
I know, I think it’s hilarious. *Wonder* if it was really a mistake.
READ
REAL CLEAR POLITICS
VERY GOOD TODAY
Richard Cohen asks: “What has Obama accomplished?” In the headline!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/pig-in-a-poke/
I feel like I had a productive day yesterday. I know I am always bringing this up but it is my opinion that the super delegates are the people who will decide in the end if Hillary is the nominee at the convention. So my focus has been writing the super delegates. For the people who haven’t yet used; http://www.lobbydelegates.com/ I thought I would mention my use of it yesterday. Yesterday was the second time I went through the entire site, I did this initially in mid June as well.
Yesterday I went through all 50 states checking the box for all of “Obama Delegates” and then checking the box for all of the “Uncommitted Delegates”. For all 50 states and for both groups it took me about 90 minutes. I coped and pasted my message into the box. Certainly this task can be broken down into several days if someone doesn’t have a lot of time at one setting.
So far I have heard from one super delegate, I was surprised he wrote back so quickly since it was late yesterday. In either case, he is clearly a devoted Obama supporter and his response was very short and very pleasant. I will be writing him back this morning to trying and change his mind or at least give him something to think about
I give up. I try to post questions and start conversations here and 95 percent of the time they are ignored. I’ve sent I don’t know how many e-mails to you murphy with suggestions or questions and never an answer. I’m done.
#955 gocleffnote
part of the difficulty here is the blog system. I have thought that all along, and others have mentioned it on several occasions.
The blog is great for action, and I am not complaining about the leadership here because I think they are all fantastic, but there are so many many people here that a lot of discussion does gets missed and I think that as a whole it reduces our effectiveness.
I don’t believe it is anything personal, and Murphy probably does get hundreds or even thousands of emails per day it is difficult to respond to each and every one.
However we do need a forum attached to the blog in my opinion.
In the meantime
2 great forums are here:
http://www.pumaparty.com
and http://hillaryclintonforum.net
I read both and many people send suggestions there too.
I think it would be better if we could work join forces with them as we are all on the same team. I think we need to keep working together. That doesn’t seem likely to happen though so a lot of people just use both.
(I don’t know if this was already mentioned.)
You guys have to see what the RNC did. They actually made a Facebook Parody on Obama’s “associates.” They will keep adding to it. I am pretty impressed. I think some people should put it on their blog rolls, link it up to their facebook, etc.
Here’s an article on it:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/
Here’s the Facebook link:
http://www.barackbook.com/
#955gocleffnote : You should really not give up ! I understand your disappointment, but I think #956 Alice Rodham Puma is right : there are a lot of people here. It is impossible to answer all questions which are asked. You shouldn’t have the feeling of being ignored : I think everyone is interested in what you write or think, but simply, we do not have the time to answer all posts !
So, cheer up, and never give up : you mustn’t give up if you really believe in the Hillary cause. Whatever your doubts or your personal disappointment, think that you are working for a great aim
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I don’t know if this has already been mentioned on this blog, but Michelle Obama is finally endorsing Hillary !
Find more on my site (you’ll have the link there) :
http://hillary.meilleur.choix.qu-obama.over-blog.com/
Great article #958 delphinefromfrance, MO is such a phoney and fake person…but she comes by it honest…look who she is married to!!!!
[b]What has Obama accomplished[/b]
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/what_has_obama_accomplished.html
What has Obama accomplished
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/what_has_obama_accomplished.html
Huffy is Playing the Race Card!
Talk about some desperation, Huffy is playing the race card. I guess that they are tired of talking about qualifications, integrity and Democratic Process. Besides, Obama is biracial so the black/white thing just does not work. And they are both sexists. Here is the article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/mccain-tests-the-waters-o_n_115381.html
#955 -I have had the same experience. I post every once in awhile but rarely get a response. I don’t mind because I am inspired by all of the people here who are very involved. I come here to read the posts, primarily, because I don’t have that much time to participate fully. Just stay focused on the cause.
#958- Great post on your website, Deliphine!
Good day all! Off to work.
Huffy Snipes Clinton
Here is the Article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/how-much-did-mccain-pay-f_b_115358.html#postComment
And my reply:
Trey,
You just stink, assigning these tactics to Clinton. She tried to warn her Party that Obama would be subject to scrutiny that he could not stand up to. And that the GOP would be way worse than anything that she ever dished out. So here we are. DON’T BLAME CLINTON!
delphine from France, that is just incredible! Unbelievable that she says that now talking out of the other side of her face!
anyway, I just saw this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_QYCy689c
A black businessman from Chicago calls a radio show to share his view of Barack Hussien Obama.
share
Good Morning Pumas. When I tried to get into my gmail account this morning, I got a google pop up to enter my user name and password. Apparently, I don’t remember either as nothing is working. I don’t understand why this is the first time I had to sign in through Google. Is there someplace I can contact either gmail or Google? HELP!
Chicagoan Tells Truth About B. Hussien Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_QYCy689c
966 I dont know…i checked mine and its ok
Help for gmail
http://mail.google.com/support/?ctx=gmail&hl=en&labs=1
I do remember they had you give them a sub email
this was in the electability watch. rrlieberma@gmail.com
Very important
THAT FLORIDA LAWSUIT
Florida State Senator Is Dropping Lawsuit on Florida Delegates at Democratic National Convention “Florida State Senator Steven Geller is about to drop his lawsuit, Geller v Democratic National Committee, because the Obama campaign has assured him that Obama will ask that the full Florida delegation be seated, with a full vote for each delegate. The lawsuit had been filed on May 22, 2008, in federal court in Miami.” http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/07/25/florida-state-senator-is-dropping-lawsuit-on-florida-delegates-at-democratic-national-convention/#comment-448488
Until there is a firm commitment that all Clinton delegates will be seated at the Convention in the proportion to the popular vote in Florida AND that there will be a full and fair nominating process with a state by state roll call, this law suit should be vigorously pursued. Please let Steven Geller know that you protest his willingess to drop the lawsuit which would cure the illegal action of the DNC is stripping Florida voters of their delegates. geller.steven.web@flsenate.gov
Sounds like Steven Geller has been bought?????
I just e-mailed padepuma@gmail.com and it came back undeliverable. We absolutely need to get the names of those Jewish supers. I can’t get into my gmail account and don’t know if it went thru there or not. If I recall, last night I didn’t see any undeliverables.
971 done
FLORIDA LAWSUIT
The lawsuit had been filed on May 22, 2008, in federal court in Miami.
Until there is a firm commitment that all Clinton delegates will be seated at the Convention in the proportion to the popular vote in Florida AND that there will be a full and fair nominating process with a state by state roll call, this law suit should be vigorously pursued.
I protest your willingness to drop the lawsuit against the DNC that stripped Florida voters of their delegates. Obama in my option has flip flop on many important issues…why would he keep his word on this ?
973 ladyhawkke
Ill keep posting your message today…
let me see if Dr long has it
ACTION! Contact These Superdelegates
By SusanUnPCcloseAuthor:
SusanUnPC Name:
Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
Site: http://noquarterusa.net/
About: See Authors Posts (1192) on July 29, 2008 at 5:28 AM in Barack Obama, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Hillary Clinton, Superdelegates
This is a criticallly important action, particularly if you live in any of these “swing” states:
JSND ACTION31 : Normita & Hillary Villagers – JSND/PUMA RRspndrs!!
Reps in Swing States in Clinton Districts and States – Obama Endorsers
Rep. Joe Donnelly (D-IN-2) (202) 225-3915
Rep. Baron Hill (D-IN-9) (202) 225-5315
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI-1) (202) 225-4735.
Patrick Murphy (D-PA-8) (202) 225-4276
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL-19) (202) 225-3001
*Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz (D-FL-20) (202) 225-7931 (was strong Hill Supporter – be sure to thank her for her support)
Rep. Ron Klein (D-FL-22) (202) 225-3026
Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH-01) (202) 225-5456
Swing State Phone Pounce Tuesday July 29
Between the hours of 9am – 5pm EST call these U.S. Representatives.
BACKGROUND: These Representatives ‘represent’ Congressional Districts that Hillary Clinton won AND are in states that Clinton also won (win, win, right? wrong) in the presidential primary– but they are endorsing Barack Obama. They also reside in swing states and are up for reelection (as all U.S. Representatives are).
One Suggested Phone Pounce Message – change up your way!:
I am calling to urge (Representative ____) to endorse Hillary Clinton for President. Hillary won both your district and state. I encourage the representative to reconsider their endorsement, which is not written in stone until the convention, and to change it to reflect the wishes of their constituents. (Then say whey you support Hillary over Barack Obama i.e.)
Ok i emailed her…dont know when and if she will get back to me
here is another email you might try:
rrlieberma@gmail.com
Anyone see Hannity last night ,particulary the part near the end,when they did the child?
Good Morning early riser PUMAs, or those who’ve yet to go to bed.
That action alert was in my mailbox and is on No Quarter.
Great action alert…let’s all join in.
Tuesday will be a great day…join in on the action alert.
I can’t wait for tonights polls,I expect a big drop for circus boy over the next few days, like bottom out
I have Great Expectatios for today!
ladyhawkke has been asking for the Jewish delegate for days now !!!!
someone help her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She needs the emails
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973 ladyhawkke on 07.29.08 at 7:31 am I just e-mailed padepuma@gmail.com and it came back undeliverable. We absolutely need to get the names of those Jewish supers. I can’t get into my gmail account and don’t know if it went thru there or not. If I recall, last night I didn’t see any undeliverables.
Don’t forget vote in every poll you can, a new aol straw poll will be out sometime today.
Wow, this blog is moving so fast that I’m posting the alert again and then I’m off to work. Still, I will be joining in today’s action. Have a great day.
ACTION! Contact These Superdelegates
By SusanUnPCcloseAuthor:
SusanUnPC Name:
Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
Site: http://noquarterusa.net/
About: See Authors Posts (1192) on July 29, 2008 at 5:28 AM in Barack Obama, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Hillary Clinton, Superdelegates
This is a criticallly important action, particularly if you live in any of these “swing” states:
JSND ACTION31 : Normita & Hillary Villagers – JSND/PUMA RRspndrs!!
Reps in Swing States in Clinton Districts and States – Obama Endorsers
Rep. Joe Donnelly (D-IN-2) (202) 225-3915
Rep. Baron Hill (D-IN-9) (202) 225-5315
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI-1) (202) 225-4735.
Patrick Murphy (D-PA-8) (202) 225-4276
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL-19) (202) 225-3001
*Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz (D-FL-20) (202) 225-7931 (was strong Hill Supporter – be sure to thank her for her support)
Rep. Ron Klein (D-FL-22) (202) 225-3026
Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH-01) (202) 225-5456
Swing State Phone Pounce Tuesday July 29
Between the hours of 9am – 5pm EST call these U.S. Representatives.
BACKGROUND: These Representatives ‘represent’ Congressional Districts that Hillary Clinton won AND are in states that Clinton also won (win, win, right? wrong) in the presidential primary– but they are endorsing Barack Obama. They also reside in swing states and are up for reelection (as all U.S. Representatives are).
One Suggested Phone Pounce Message – change up your way!:
I am calling to urge (Representative ____) to endorse Hillary Clinton for President. Hillary won both your district and state. I encourage the representative to reconsider their endorsement, which is not written in stone until the convention, and to change it to reflect the wishes of their constituents. (Then say whey you support Hillary over Barack Obama i.e.)
985….make a list of the URLS…
Interesting e-mails being fowarded , the letter from a soldier and the cop giving a ticket to a car with obama sticker, saw both on here awhile back, so what else can we get circulating,something informative in a form sure to get passed around.
ladyhawkke has been asking for the Jewish delegate for days now !!!!
someone help her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She needs the emails
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973 ladyhawkke on 07.29.08 at 7:31 am I just e-mailed padepuma@gmail.com and it came back undeliverable. We absolutely need to get the names of those Jewish supers. I can’t get into my gmail account and don’t know if it went thru there or not. If I recall, last night I didn’t see any undeliverables.
Yikes!! Have you seen this??? They are getting desperate.
http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/07/plan-to-kill-pu.html
Check it out: http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/
McCain 49%
OBama 45%
of likely voters!
Problem – does not mean victory in the electoral college where Obama has a substantial lead. But it’s going in the right direction.
VP prospect is pro-lifer – happy now – you bitter women?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/pro-lifer-as-obama-vp/
and on the same blog – the release of the prayer on the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem – it was campaign approved!
How do we prevent the plan against puma?
#990 TXPuma,
What in the world is that? Are they going to start coming in here and messing up our goals? Is that the page starting that movement?
Good morning everyone, just saw the plan to kill dang.
I think we should only send prowls by e-mail to all current members no new ones we can’t take a chance of being taken down.
well i guess we must be doing something right to be a threat or they wouldn’t even bother with us huh.
#997 slyt2
your right, I bet they are really worried!
Re: Expose of hugh crowd illusion. Examples; Berlin and ______________? What was the other reference to Obama & a hugh crowd? Was it MN? This expose would be great for inclusion in the film documentary.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080724/pl_afp/usvotegermanyobama
On a different note, I was watching Hannity and Colmes and Dick Morris (gag) was on well he said he was trying to figure out what was going on with the polls so he broke them up by age and stuff and he found that woman 40 and older (called us Clinton voters/woman) are the reason BO can’t win.
ACTION ALERT
Re: I received an: E-mail from icount@ClintonDems.com
Dear Clinton Dem,
We have two action items for tomorrow:
#1 – Swing State PUMA Pounce Tuesday July 29
Between the hours of 9am -5pm EST please call the following U.S. Representatives.
These Representatives ‘represent’ Congressional Districts that Hillary Clinton won AND are in states that Clinton also won in the presidential primary– but they are endorsing Barack Obama. They also reside in swing states and are up for reelection.
Sample Message:
Hello. I am calling to urge (Representative ____) to endorse Hillary Clinton for President at the convention. Hillary won both your district and state. I encourage (Representative _____) to reconsider their endorsement, which is not written in stone until the convention, and to change it to reflect the wishes of their constituents.
(Then respectfully express why you support Hillary over Barack Obama)
* Please note that Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz was formerly a strong Hillary supporter…please thank her for her past support.
Reps in Swing States in Clinton Districts and States – Obama Endorsers
Rep. Joe Donnelly [IN] (202) 225-3915
Rep. Baron Hill [IN] (202) 225-5315
Rep. Bart Stupak [MI] (202) 225-4735.
Patrick Murphy [PA] (202) 225-4276
Rep. Robert Wexler [FL] (202) 225-3001
Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz [FL](202) 225-7931
Rep. Ron Klein [FL] (202) 225-3026
Carol Shea-Porter [NH] (202) 225-5456
#2 – Send a paper crown to the DNC
This one is fun! Make a paper crown or get one at BK or a party store and send it to the DNC.
On the crown write:
OBAMA – SELECTED, NOT ELECTED or
We want a convention, not a coronation!
Add your name and state on the back, along with the words PUMA DEMOCRAT or just PUMA!
As dissenting Dems, we should refuse to pay for Obama’s coronation…but we are generous…we will be happy to supply him an appropriate prop for his next photo op!
Mail to:
DNC Chairman Howard Dean
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
202-863-8000
ladyhawkke has been asking for the Jewish delegate for days now !!!!
someone help her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She needs the emails
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973 ladyhawkke on 07.29.08 at 7:31 am I just e-mailed padepuma@gmail.com and it came back undeliverable. We absolutely need to get the names of those Jewish supers. I can’t get into my gmail account and don’t know if it went thru there or not. If I recall, last night I didn’t see any undeliverables.
Good Morning Pumas,
Don’t forget to participate in our Superdelegate Email Initiative. Today is the last day for the current list of Supers, we will update the email form tomorrow morning.
‘Stop Obama’ Democrat Email Initiative
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/136450-democrats-independents-against.html
& Today’s Post: Americans & The Media Need A 4th Grade Civics Lesson
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/congressional-leaders-obama-take-no.html
Good morning Puma’s!! Any bomb shells this morning?
1001 mcr on 07.29.08 at 8:49 am Re: Expose of hugh crowd illusion. Examples; Berlin and ______________? What was the other reference to Obama & a hugh crowd? Was it MN? This expose would be great for inclusion in the film documentary.
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Here’s the dispatch from NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones… Some 75,000 people flocked to Portland’s waterfront Sunday to watch Barack Obama speak, making it the biggest rally the campaign has held to date. Thousands stood on the lawn, dozens watched from boats and from the bridge stretching across the Willamette River. A few kayakers held their paddles and tried to keep their kayaks straight as they watched the candidate, who stood on a makeshift platform.
He sounds worried about filling the stadium in August. They keep sending me letters to invite me. eeeew
It is more like Barack Hussein Obama was anointed rather than selected or elected.
His blessing came early in 2000, but we the PUMA Godesses will not ever giving him the final blessing he will need to be god and “savior”
1008 LibertyPuma on 07.29.08 at 9:06 am He sounds worried about filling the stadium in August. They keep sending me letters to invite me. eeeew
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Good tell them you would like 8 tickets and then that will be 8 less seats filled.
# 1003 mcr
Re: Pounce 2
http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/search/processRequest.do?requestURI=searchMain&Ntx=mode%2bmatchallpartial&Ntt=crown%20accessories&N=0&Ntk=all&searchTerm=crown+accessories&BP=8917&Source=Google&cm_mmc=Google-_-OTC+SendTec+Apparel-_-costume+crowns-_-princess+crowns
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_el_pr/obama_women – “A recent poll by The Associated Press and Yahoo News found that just 12 percent of former Clinton supporters say they are excited about Obama.”
BWAAhahahahahaha
1008 LibertyPuma on 07.29.08 at 9:06 am He sounds worried about filling the stadium in August. They keep sending me letters to invite me. eeeew
I can not believe I watch Fox news now. LOL McCain is ahead by 3 points among likely voters just now on Fox.
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Good idea
hey All — morning post up. PROWL coming up in a bit.
Feel free to repost comments. Especially ones like notfallinginline’s.
take it upstairs!
funny..I just commented on my own posting. That was meant for you Terrydo.
There is a new thread upstairs guys. Good Morning.
I don’t want to be first LOL
Party lowers expectations: “as close as the preceding 2 elections” – NCEC mailing
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/obama-vs-kerry/
Take it UPSTAIRS Pumas.
Oh shit EARTHQUAKE!
It’s cool it’s cool. WOW I jumped up from the computer and ran for the door with my son!
Back to PUMA work!
Hey, I posted this about 2 weeks ago maybe? The plan to kill PUMA? It was over at DailyKos about 2 weeks ago. One of their bloggers supposedly is actually here on this website, he claims he is “in” with Murphy and us, but is really one of the rapid responders for Obama’s campaign. He was crowing about how they have been recieving our daily prowls and the rapid responders have beaten us at our own game by emailing the superdelegates first to warn them about this blog and how it is really a Republican front. He says we haven’t raised any money at all. I think he has it at about $20K. He has been at it ad nauseum, and it was his “plan” to kill the PUMA movement. I tried to post over there that this was really just one leg of the PUMA movement, to go to Just Say No Deal, etc. but the comments section was closed. I think I am banned from there, I couldn’t post anywhere. I don’t know why I would be though, I’m not usually vicious when I post. Anyway, that is where the plan to kill PUMA started.
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