PATROLING BARNEGAT
by: Walt Whitman (1819-1892)
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ILD, wild the storm, and the sea high running,- Steady the roar of the gale, with incessant undertone muttering,
- Shouts of demoniac laughter fitfully piercing and pealing,
- Waves, air, midnight, their savagest trinity lashing,
- Out in the shadows there milk-white combs careering,
- On beachy slush and sand spirts of snow fierce slanting,
- Where through the murk the easterly death-wind breasting,
- Through cutting swirl and spray watchful and firm advancing,
- (That in the distance! is that a wreck? is the red signal flaring?)
- Slush and sand of the beach tireless till daylight wending,
- Steadily, slowly, through hoarse roar never remitting,
- Along the midnight edge by those milk-white combs careering,
- A group of dim, weird forms, struggling, the night confronting,
- That savage trinity warily watching.
592 comments ↓
anti is numero uno!
what a night!
omg i almost made the #1 spot
Re: More shady connections
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Obama’s Acorn: A Leftist Social Reform Group. Part II »
ACORN has now been connected to money laundering, misuse of taxpayer funds, embezzlement, voter fraud, wage and labor violations and safety complaints
oh well ill take the bronze whats up pumas
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
The WORM Turns on Obama »
It’s clear that Obama’s Orwellian campaign is airbrushing the fairy tale for popular consumption. Thing is, most voters see through “tall tales.”
repost from downstairs:
I have a question: do they actually think they are going to lock us all in all day every day in a cage….will we be able to leave and come back on our own accord? I mean really, they cant just pen us up and make us stay the whole day right? cuz this crazy Italian will NOT be caged up all day lol
723 MountainSong
So how do u keep from being discouraged?
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Personally, I don’t want to wake to a Oblahma nightmare on Nov 5 thinking… I coulda, shoulda, if only.
I’m just doing the best I can on any given day to prevent that nightmare. I can live with that.
Success isn’t how many times you get knocked down, it’s that you keep getting up, especially when you’re getting up to stand a righteous cause.
Our Group in Charlotte was Quite well organized with t-shirts and signs. When Dean arrived we began chanting “PUMA!” Apparently it got to him, as he had to stop his speech to address us. We stated that we wanted Hillary in nomination. All he would say is that “she will be in roll call, if she expresses that she wants to be”…pretty shady answer. So we respected the rest of his speech but you could easily tell we irked him!
Re Debra Bartoshevich:
The Democratic Party today has told all Democrats that dissent will not be permitted, that all Democrats must fall sheepishly in line behind the party leadership, that we will only be represented by them if we want what they want us to want and do what they want us to do.
The Democratic Party today has declared that they want to strip us of yet another right as citizens. No one is allowed to speak as a stalwart Democrat by opposing the party’s leadership. We have to shut up and fall in line.
At the beginning of June, when Murphy launched Puma PAC, I was among the very first to join.
I remember in the first days that there was intense debate among Pumas about whether or not voting for John McCain was a valid form of protest. I thought, “Of course, it is.”
There were others who said that they would vote for McCain because he is more moderate and more qualified than Barack Obama, and were challenged for taking that position because it would mean that they were not true Democrats. I thought, “Of course we’re true Democrats. Mindless sheep vote the party line. True Democrats expect – no demand – that their leaders uphold core democratic principles and represent them and their interests or step aside for leaders who will.”
What is the purpose of having a convention at which delegates select the party’s nominee if the outcome has been predetermined and any delegate who refuses to fall in line with the predetermined selection is denied access to the convention?
We no longer have a democratic Democratic Party.
Our choice is either to fight – revolution style – until every last one of those failed pseudo-leaders is out of power over the Democratic Party, or find leaders who will help us replace the undemocratic Democratic Party.
(Another repost from downstairs)
Despite evidence to the contrary (#10), I’m so angry that I can’t speak. I’m f&*king angry. (<-sorry)
No. This can’t be. The painfully stupid Fowler-Germond letter was one thing, but this. No.
We’re in a war, ladies and gentlemen. We vote Democrat election cycle after election cycle because it was the closest we could come to being represented in this joke of a representative democracy.
Make no mistake about it. We fight for our freedoms now, or lose everything forever.
No.
EWard,
I sent you letter and contact over to the person I
e-mailed you about. You should hear from her if you haven’t already. Thank you again
#7 prplvette85 on 07
They won’t be caging this puma up all day!
So what’s up with this guy repeat68?
Does he really think he’s going to get away with creating chaos? The police learned lessons from 68 onward…
I will say that I liked two items on his demonstrtation agenda: Global Warming and No Borders.
I like the idea of people being allowed to live whereever they chose, that would be one way of yaying or naying governments.
Have any other Clinton delegates been stripped of their seats at the convention?
#13 I agree with you…it’s not going to happen here either. I am too old to be caged, and young enough to not let it happen lol
Perfect Whitman Poem Murhpy.
#10 I think your right but I think it may be both. We have to get as many out of office. Even if its a couple it wiull make the rest think or rethink there position. Than new leaders will need to step in right away to fill the vacume. My thoughts is all. I did get to make the phine calls today got put on voicemail.
Received my t-shirts today. Very nice! Another thank you note headed your way Murphy.
“We’re in a war, ladies and gentlemen.”
I’m not at war. I detest the concept.
I’m not into war, neither am I into incitement nor hyperbole.
If our actions do not bring about concrete and profound changes to the Democratic, then I will add my resources to an existing 3rd party or a new party.
We will stand strong and stay with our convictions
EVENING PUMAs! Finally I’m on earlier! Murphy, excellent topic downstairs.
Murphy TigressGold has been trying to get in and she sent a e-mail. She didn’t see any other way of joining
REPOST
MARYLANDPUMA -
Keep watching the Global list growing and had a thought!
Perhaps signs in the languages of the countries ( or maybe even flags) that represent our global members in Denver will send a message regarding OUR “foreign relations”. Plus I feel it is a token of respect and friendship to show them how much we appreciate all their support and efforts in our cause.
Someone also mentioned the other night that the names of all our members could be on signs, so those of us who can not attend will feel some small sense of being there. Perhaps you already saw it .
I’m sorry, but am I the only person who thinks that what happened today in the case of Debra Bartoshevich is infinitely significant?
It’s not about Bartoshevich being a martyr.
It’s about the rights of Democrats to oppose the party as a means of remaining loyal to its principles.
My anger has turned to confusion at what appears to be indifference to an infinitely significant inaction on the part of the Democratic Party leadership, who refused to act and turned the decision over to unprincipled Democratic Party of Wisconsin losers.
I told her to go to join here or to register
I can see no other way than McCain if we cannt get Hillary. I will work to my last breath to do what I have to to not allow this global one nation take over person to lead anything. He wants to give our country away thats what this trip was about.
Have you heard? I’m surprised that pumas are not talking about it. Not one mention of John Edwards on this thread. Can FOX be trusted on this one?
#26 sandipuma,
Told who, Debra Bartoshevich? And will we be acting in any significant way in regard to her case?
Knoxville PUMA
i guess the democratic party expects us to lie about what we will do in the voting booth. I respect the Hell out of Debra for being honest…There is no way to prove that the other delegates will or won’t vote for BO…that’s why we have a secret ballot in this country..I think it’s disgraceful what they have done.
#23 sandipuma,
Sorry. Missed that one!
#25 Knoxville Puma
Dances says it very well.
#20 DancesWithPumas on 07.25.08 at 8:50 pm
“We’re in a war, ladies and gentlemen.”
I’m not at war. I detest the concept.
I’m not into war, neither am I into incitement nor hyperbole.
If our actions do not bring about concrete and profound changes to the Democratic, then I will add my resources to an existing 3rd party or a new party.
msBin 24- I didnt see that but oh it would mean so much. A way for the rest of us to feel we belonged and were there also.It is a great idea and I hope it will be carried out.thanks to who ever thought it up.
#30 queen81,
It’s obviously disgraceful. The question is: what are we going to do about it? Does anyone else even see the implications of their actions today? YOU SHOULD ALL BE ABSOLUTELY ENRAGED.
I am.
If the DNC had their way we would be set back 40 to 50 years as women. You men wouldn’t. It’s not a good situation
26 sandipuma
I told her to go to join here or to register
Has your friend set up a gmail account? That’s what I had to do in order for my registration to go through correctly. That was (seems like) years ago though and things may have changed. Just a thought.
It’s not that she is a Clinton delegate or whatever. It’s that she said that she was going to exercise her right as a citizen, as a Democrat, to speak to her party by dissenting. And they stripped her, stripped us all, of the right to dissent, which is based on an important principle of democracy.
Like i said before the DNC has broken so many rules but don’t let us do one thing they do not like.
Hello Pumas.
Did you hear Lanny Davis and Ricki Lieberman will be on No We Wont blog talk radio on Sunday at 8PM?
Wow, huh?
I’m sorry, but I need to separate myself from all of this for a while. If this doesn’t anger every last one of you to your core, then I just don’t understand what we’ve all been doing.
Pumas, do ya think Obama now believes that the surge is working? Because if it hadn’t worked he would have been dodgeing bullets instead of hard unscripted questions. Hey Pumas do ya think well go down in History as the McCain Democrats? Ya know like the Regan dems.
Knoxville,
I am enraged. This is yet another ‘back room deal’ for bobo.
The DNC has to be scrubbed and every other Democrat that has been a part of this.
she is at aol.com
BREAKING NEWS:
Here’s what I just read at FOX news:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391426,00.html
no i don’t think she knows about gmail
hehehehe love Hannity
knoxville
I think we all are but cannt allow them to use it to beat us down. It makes my resolve even more hardened Hannity is going to talk about Edwards in a min.Obama now. Hang tough Knoxville we need you.
I won! I’m #47!
#40 Knoxville Puma
It’s INFURIATING! The DNC is doing all they can to bolster their selected one and it, hopefully, just won’t work com November. I think we’re all hoping that when push comes to shocve, and people are standing in the voting booth on November 4th (*Sigh* It seems history is not without irony. For me anyway) and they think about the 2 candidates. They will choose experience over American Idol glamor
#48?
40 KNOXVILLE –
I totally understand your feeling, because I have been that way all day.
Just feel so overwhelmed and sad today, so I am laying low myself!
Good evening all,
I am trying to read the posts and catch up. There has been so much going on today.
Post # 40
I am trying to catch up on what happened. With everything I have read thus far. I have to say I agree with you 1000% on this. It is so wrong. I am not sure what we can do, but we should do something.
wow got fired for being hungover today
lol
me thinks my politics may have played inti it
45 sandipuma
no i don’t think she knows about gmail
She might want to get the gmail account…
it takes two minutes.
Knoxville:
It is outrageous…and everything has been outrageous.
It’s important to still get angry. The worst would be if we all became complacent, that we all just submit to injustice. it would be the ruination of democracy.
50 Amarissa
I won! I’m 47!
48?
Happy Birthday, Marissa!!
Hannity is going to have more on about Edwards
#742 Maryland PUMA… Resend the email? What would be the point? sigh
I didn’t think the blog name and email had to be the same? I guess I didn’t know that was required to have an email to the administration opened and responded to?
How Dumb, Dumb, Dumb could I have been! I am so sorry that I made it so confusing.
The heading to my email to you is called WEBSITE DESIGN…
Listen lets get strong and large enough to start a New Democatic Party
Happy 29th Birthday Amarissa
I will IM her
Is it Amarissa’s Birthday??
Happy Happy!
henry:
Cheer up. That’s nothing compared to what FOX is reporting about John Edwards today.
henry, sorry to hear that. Maybe you can get unemployment and grab a better job in the interim?
Is it me, or is the site slow and jerky?
goanderson, yes, a little bit
Question:
There aren’t any of you who still watch MSNBC right?
I IMed her but she didn’t answer me so maybe she is trying to get in
not me. boycotting
#742 Maryland PUMA… Do I need to cancel my Member name? Change my Blog name? Email? Or, change my email to my blog name or visa-versa?
How does this work? I ‘ve been here since the day after the blog started and didn’t even know all of the PumaPac protocols! LOL! What! Can’t get any dumber and slower than that!
MSNBC. H*LL no.
I miss so much when I am at work. It takes me forever to catch up on things. I heard something about Edwards and reporters not sure what happened there. I am hoping to catch it on FOX soon.
No I never watch msnbc have boycotted them for months…i only watch foxnews
#62 goandersen
No, my birthday was the 19th of this month that’s when we started the “sign” thing. But thanks anyway I am still celebrating here with all of you!
Knoxville,
Of course, we are angry about it, especially since many of us stood up for Debra Bartoshevich and tried to keep this from happening.
But we can’t let it divert us from our mission. It’s one more argument. It’s one more reason to fight. It’s one more weapon we can use against the DNC. But it’s not the end goal.
Remember, our first priority is to get Hillary nominated. If we fail in that mission, we must then focus on keeping Obama out of the White House.
Debra Bartoshevich is a foot soldier in that battle. She took a risk and, unfortunately, did not escape unscathed. But if she were here with us, she would tell us to carry on with our mission. Put your anger to good use, dear friend. For Hillary. For Debra. For all of us.
#56 DancesWithPumas
Oh, now I see where this birthday thing comes from! When I said I won, I am #47 I was joking about all of you who claim to be # 1 posting! LOL!
65 goandersen
Is it me, or is the site slow and jerky?
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You’re not slow and jerky, so it must be the site.
#35 Sandipuma.
I have to disagree, Driving women backwards takes men along with them. Most people live in a two income household. When a wife gets pregnant, how many men can afford to take over all the bills? When some ones wife gets denied her promotion because of the old boys club, how does that effect the home life? How about the fact that men are made impotent in being able to deal with such things.
Thats just the tip of the iceberg.
Theres also the sisters mothers g/fs nieces, all of whom will be denied the opportunity to achieve because of sexism. Not to mention the degradation that will be considered acceptable. That will lead to violence from men. No body treats any women close to me (or any woman in public) with less than respect. Any man who does will deal with me ( and has) in our traditional method of settling disputes. A solid straight left followed by a good right hook. (I’m a southpaw).
No we are all affected. Some men (and women) just don’t see it.
#75 Amarissa
I know!
But I couldn’t let it go!
Yes, I am number eight hundred and six!
Teasing those that try to be #1
761 BillieJo on 07.25.08 at 9:21 pm
#718 TrishfromCanada on 07.25.08 at 8:25 pm
#487 BillieJo
We have completed part 1 of our project, are you up to help us with part 2 ?
Fantastic!! Yes I am ready Trish, sock it to me by email.
I hope the second part is less timely.
73 Amarissa,
Guess I missed it. ;(
Are any of you watching Glenn Beck on Fox. I do believe he is a PUMA. We need to email him with some praise!
#65 goandersen
Yeah the site’s been kind of, to coin a phrase, hinky lately. Not sure what’s going on.
Maybe high traffic. And Dances’ response to Go’s question. *lmao* 
That was hilarious.
#76 DancesWithPumas
I will be by the time all is said and done! LOL
Take me away to Shady Acres!
#78 DancesWithPumas
Got me! you are fast!
But since it could be my birthday, I’ll have another sangria! LOL
she said she sent a e-mail awhile ago and wanted to come in tonight but has not gotten anything back
when you click on join it says you have to send a e-mail
#37 Knoxville puma.
As i understand it, each delegate has to sign a pledge to support the nominee until after the convention. Thats the rule. I may be wrong but i do believe I saw that when we were discussing the rules for the convention here.
If those are the rules she broke them. I admire her courage but, she knew the consequences.
She willingly gave up her delegate status to stand for what she believes in. I applaud her.
so how long will it take???
Edwards did it. It will all come out, but the National Enquirer is rarely wrong.
It proves my point that if Edwards was a good and decent man, he would have supported Hillary Clinton. Instead, the dirty dog supported the other dirty dog.
Women, it is time for us not only to demand the front of the bus, but it is time for us to demand to drive the bus. NOW, not tomorrow. NOW.
Yes 77 but i am talking about womens rights and i don’t have a man
I agree Jen!
DancesWithPumas removes a sangria from her tray, places it in front of Amarissa, and waits for a (large*) tip.
* Financing my trip to Denver.
89 jenniforhillar
Aaah, it warms the cockles of my heart to again be fighting for Equal Rights! And with all the Pumas at my side. What a site!
I am right on the front lines with you!
92 Dances
LOL!
90 sandipuma
I don’t either, YaY!
77 is right though.
Arrogance Will Not Help Get Obama Elected
Excerpt: In the prayer he left at the Western Wall, Senator Obama asked the Lord to protect him from pride and despair. Maybe he should have added something about protecting his campaign from the related danger of arrogance. It might be the biggest threat to Obama’s success.
“They think they can’t lose,” one of the smartest people I know said to me this week, describing the attitude he sees on display in the Obama campaign. He isn’t the first one to say it.
There was a crop of stories, as the trip was ending, suggesting that the Obama campaign, which used to pride itself on its openess and transparency as compared to the Clinton machine, has now abandoned openess and transparency in favor of tight controls, attacks on reporters who write less-than flattering pieces, and a particularly unattractive form of hardball that people who think they are on the way to the White House, or already there, often adopt. It will not serve him well.
Continue reading excellent article:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
#90 sandipuma
That makes two of us, shall we dance like the women in this post’s picture? They are two women dancing right? Or is it too much sangria?
I watch the news as a wake up call to re-invigorate me to keep working. It scares the heck out of me, and I am a pretty brave girl. I don’t know which is worse, that they support him or that they think I am stupid enough to support him.
When all of this is said and done, I think a lot of ass whooping needs to happen. I will volunteer gladly
I sent that storey about Edwards to Hannity last night and 2 other stories . Around 9 my time last night
she is still trying to get in. But it says e-mail when she hits join. So she e-mailed twice
#98 jenniforhillary
98 jenniforhillary
i will bring my case of whoop!
98 we can all do that
Just had an idea: Let’s send our Democratic “Leaders” some Jalapeños!
#93 goanderson
Aaah, it warms the cockles of my heart to again be fighting for Equal Rights!
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The cockles of my heart have been warmed, toasted, baked, broiled, steamed, poached, and burnt to a crisp fighting for equal rights all these decades.
This fight will have to be something radically different, although I’m not quite sure how. I do believe that men will have to suffer some serious consequences if they do not fight along side of us equally… and not because they see women as appendages via blood or marriage, but because they either know it;s the right thing and will raise the consciousnesses of their brothers (instead of preaching to the choir), or because they will suffer serious consequences. Speaks to a language, that for some, is their first (and sometimes, only) language.
We should discuss after Denver.., or on Nov 5.
Ok Pumas give me time to catch up. Keep an eye out for at least six new PUMAs.
SANDIPUMA – have your friend email me for instructions. marylandpuma@email.com
you could knock Obunbus over with a feather
Got my computer fixed and had no intentions of blogging tonight – but
KNOXVILLE PUMA – and I just started reading from the bottom up so do not know how many people have agreed or disagreed with you about the Wisconsin delegate – but I see you have passionately tried your best to get people stirred up and
#74Firebelle Puma – I understand completely what you are saying as well about picking our battles – but guess what folks – this is a big battle – and in my opinion – bigger than the likes of a Donna – that everyone is so passionate about -
Many of us – and I was one included – sent emails to the Chairman of the Democratic Party in Wisconsin saying not to do it – we were all ignored and it happened -
I personally am in touch with another superdelegate on a daily basis – that has to remained nameless but was in a meeting with others that was trying to press her to admit that she was for Hillary rather than No name and felt very uncomfortable – IF WE LET this happen to just one delegate the word will get out that anyone else that votes for someone other than Precious will be attacked and stripped of their status – isn’t this kinda of what we are trying to do – get her nominated – I personally think we all should send another blast of emails to the good Chairman saying how displeased we are of his actions – if for nothing else but send a sign to others NOT TO MESS WITH OUR OTHER DELEGATES – this is just one and a sign that there could be others.
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION- and now I am off for the night – have a good evening everyone.
ok Maryland puma i think she is coming through the door right now
Re Debra Bartoshevich:
Use it to our advantage as part of our protest. We have to stay focused on our mission not to let Obama buy is way into the White House. It’s our country.
I think she is in
#41 tillerylakelady on 07.25.08 at 8:58 pm
Well… there are those that will vote for McCain, some are voting for 3rd party, some are sitting out, some are going to write-in hillary and some will fall in line.
But, depending on how the rest of the election goes… it’s quite possible that there will be McCain Dems in history.
wrt Edwards… gosh, I hope that isn’t true for his wife’s sake. If true… shame on JE.
I think the new articles at NoQuarterUSA deserve time on network news.
http://noquarterusa.net
New!
“Clinton donors give big to Obama, but not the other way ’round”
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/clinton-obama-d.html
What dopes!
#105 DancesWithPumas on 07.25.08 at 9:40 pm
#93 goanderson
Aaah, it warms the cockles of my heart to again be fighting for Equal Rights!
____________________________________________
The cockles of my heart have been warmed, toasted, baked, broiled, steamed, poached, and burnt to a crisp fighting for equal rights all these decades.
This fight will have to be something radically different, although I’m not quite sure how. I do believe that men will have to suffer some serious consequences if they do not fight along side of us equally… and not because they see women as appendages via blood or marriage, but because they either know it;s the right thing and will raise the consciousnesses of their brothers (instead of preaching to the choir), or because they will suffer serious consequences. Speaks to a language, that for some, is their first (and sometimes, only) language.
We should discuss after Denver.., or on Nov 5.
————
Very radically different. This is the same fight on the same old play ground. WE are seasoned now though.
Let the revolution begin!
Ok i sent her your e-mail
I will bring my lil’ ass
re: 113 NO WAY!! Honestly people I would rather choke on pennies than give him one…NOT EVEN ONE PENNY WOULD I GIVE HIM!
What is wrong with people…has everyone drunk that damn kool aid?
#58 WBD
No no no. If your blog username is different than your email addy, it’s hard for me to find. My email shows whatever REAL name you used to register the account. It’s frustrating as HELL. I have over 1000 emails in my inbox and 2000 in my archive that I have to file through.
I’ll go look for that title. Hang tight. Don’t get frustrated. I was at work when you asked me earlier. Now I am home and have winzip. It is entirely possible I opened it at work and since I couldn’t do anything with it then, I saved it till tonight and forgot.
Be right back.
dwp #105. yup.
113 Amarissa
I don’t think I have seen that look on HRC’s face!!
If looks could k—!
It is a look of pure, utter disgust!
test
I agree 108
#119 goandersen
test2
Murphy did you get a e-mail from my freind trying to get in?? she said she clicked join and it said she had to send a e-mail??
DWP high fives Sister Murphy!
Maryland- I sent you a few photos from our protesting of Dean in Charlotte NC today
122 InuHanyou1701
I cannot wait! I just cannot wait for the smack down!
finally. I cant seem to get more than one post without reloading the home page and sometimes not even then. Would like to comment tonight but I’ll just lurk a bit. =hugs to all=
As far as voting in November goes, I pray each day that Hillary will be the obvious choice.
If not, I will campaign TIRELESSLY for the candidate most likely to win because that man is so scary that NO ONE COULD BE WORSE. NO ONE.
Also, it is very very important to send a message to the DNC should they keep Hillary out that this is what you get when you mess with true Democrats.
I am a jewish woman, and I will leave this country in a heartbeat should that man win. Principle and fear will drive me out. But if I am forced out I will leave with my integrity, something many will never get back.
I do not understand how Howie, Dean and Nancy sleep at night. Donna must have lost both her mind and conscience long ago, and ANY woman who is still supporting that man is an embarassment to herself. At some point in our collective lives we must simply say NO MORE. I would hope that we have reached that point.
Maryland
Do I have to put another quarter in for the site to work better?
Gonna be very interesting if the Hell’s Angels show up to rally in Denver and protest Obama, screaming, “Howl, PUMA’s, Howl” as 1000 of them rev their Harleys. LOL
From Amarissa’s link to the LA Times:
“. . .That’s in addition to the $1.6 million The Times identified earlier this week in donations from Clinton donors to Obama in June.
However, it wasn’t a two-way street last month. Obama’s donors gave Clinton a mere $105,000 in June, despite a plea from Obama that his high-roller donors help retire her $22 million in campaign debts.
In June, Clinton donors gave $1.53 million to the Obama Victory Fund, established by Obama and the Democratic Party to raise money far in excess of the $2,300 that individuals can give to a presidential candidate. By law, the fund can receive high five-figure checks and divvy them up among various other Obama-related committees.”
ugh.
link here:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/clinton-obama-d.html
One more try.
Sandipuma, The point I was trying to make is that rolling back womens rights hurts everyone. Men included.
shes been trying to get in for a long time lol
sandipuma — there is a new user named tigress gold. She does not need to send an email to blog.
tell her to simply log in to the blog and start commenting.
I’ll look for her first comment to approve it.
Hang tight!
133 ok i see what you are saying
#131 MountainSong
I will be right there with them!
Queen81 — mp forwarded me the photos!
They are super!
What kind of response did you get?
#130 goandersen
she gave up and said she would try tomorrow
goandersen — do you ride a harley??
#119 goandersen
I think that picture has been photoshoped!
Sandipuma — noooooo!
Tell her to call me — I’ll email you my phone number.
I will send her a e-mail
LMAO! Murphy, you crack me up!
“despite a plea from Obama”
Would that be like the afterthought “plea” (“oh, I forgot, please give Senator Clinton” your spare change)
after he absorbed another spotlight?
#58 WBD
Definitely did not get it. Please resend.
goandersen, well! you never know! When I was younger I would NEVER see women riding their own motorcycles. Now I see them ALL the time. I love it! I always want to wave at them like a little kid, but I’m afraid they’ll flip me the bird.
I cannot think about Hillary’s peeps giving that man money. I am very very upset right now, and I am going to go play with my animals.
I love my parents, but I do not always do what they tell me. Sometimes we have to think for ourselves. NO Hillary peep should have given that man anything but the FINGER (the bad one)….
Once again, thank you Murphy and all puma people for letting me know that the fight is more than in my heart and my head. God bless you all!!
142 Amarissa
I saved it as well, with my own caption. LOL!
#25 Knoxville Puma
Here’s one Puma that is in complete agreement with you. It is infinitely significant. When I read about this last Wed. I was mad as hell and here is what I posted:
#630 7/23/08 6:40 pm
Apologies if this was posted earlier.
Quote FROM Debra Bartoshevich…
“The Wisconsin Democratic Party is holding a conference call THIS FRIDAY, July 25, to make a decision about whether to allow me to retain my status as a Hillary Clinton delegate to the Democratic National Convention in August in Denver.”
BACKGROUND: The Wisconsin DNC is telling Debra she will lose her delegate status. She is fighting so she can vote for Hillary @ the convention. Please help Debra by immediately contacting the Democratic Party Chair and ask them to stop rigging this process by punishing someone simply for supporting Hillary Clinton:
Joe Wineke, DP Chair
The Democratic Party of Wisconsin
222 W. Washington Ave. Suite 150
Madison, Wisconsin 53703
CALL: (608) 255-5172
FAX: (608) 255-8919
EMAIL: party@wisdems.org
thank you.
I do not believe this post received any comments but that doesn’t mean there was no action. I do hope many faxes and emails were sent along with mine.
Clearly this did not stop the despicable action taken but it would let them know we are aware of their atrocious actions. I doubt we will find any mention in the media.
This is more than the loss of a delegate. We are losing our democracy, it is hanging in the balance. This is why Denver is so important.
Certainly racism and sexism and all the “isms” are horrible and damaging. However, in my view, there is nothing more horrifying or damaging than the loss of our democracy.
I am angry and frightened but anxious to try to make things happen will all the other Pumas.
via JSND — want to help Cindy Sheehan against Nancy Pelosi?
SND ACTION26 : HELP CINDY SHEEHAN COMPLETE HER SIGNATURE DRIVE SO SHE CAN UNSEAT
PELOSI – IF YOU LIVE IN SAN FRAN, SIGN! IF NOT, DONATE A COUPLE OF BUCKS…
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BACKGROUND: Cindy Sheehan. the gutsy anti-war Democrat challenging Nancy
Pelosi, must turn in 10,198 signatures by August 8th to get on the ballot.
She has 9,764. Can you help put her over the top…..either sign or donate to her
signature collection drive! $10 each from 100 people, or $5 each from 200 would
do the trick! If not, ask a friend in SF to sign…
From Cindy’s website at http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
…A $10 donation can help us secure 10 valid signatures. Support our signature
drive with a contribution. Click here to donate.
ok
#148 murphy on 07.25.08 at 10:00 pm
goandersen, well! you never know! When I was younger I would NEVER see women riding their own motorcycles. Now I see them ALL the time. I love it! I always want to wave at them like a little kid, but I’m afraid they’ll flip me the bird.
I used to ride. Too crouchity now.
Go ahead and wave, they won’t flip you off.
Do you ride? Try it. It is very freefing.
Friday 7/25 at 10pm ET. The debut of our exciting new weekly show hosted by DCMediagirl. Tune in to complain and comment about the 2008 race for the White House, the MSM and the politics of South Asia. Her special guest for part of the program will be the rudest Pakistani blogger Nail ‘em Up, who’ll offer his country’s perspective on whether Obama’s comments about Pakistan are being received and whether Pakistanis buy the “hope and change” slogan.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/07/26/DCMediaGirls-Hour-of-Power
PUMAs we are going to run and get a pizza. I will be back. See you all in a little bit!
I’m reposting this from downstairs in case anyone on at night who didn’t see it wants to give their imput (…Murphy?). I got a few replies, which I’ll paste in another post below.
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VIRAL EMAILS against BO
A friend of mine in the east coast backed Hillary during the primaries but when HC “pulled out” she moved to BO. I told her about JSND/PUMA and sent her the link to pumapac. She’s open-minded and I thought I was swaying her away from BO… But then one day she received a forwarded chain-email (viral email) with the subject: “20 Reasons Why We Must Keep McCain from Winning” (something along those lines). She forwarded it to me and wrote, “Did you know all this?! I just can’t let the Republicans win. It might be sad what happened to Hillary… and BO may not be the ideal… but McCain is worse, SO I’M VOTING FOR BO!”
Well… I’m still working on her. But the main point here is that this got me thinking about the effectiveness of these “viral/chain emails”… and (I suggested this before, but more meekly) … WHY NOT CREATE OUR OWN VIRAL EMAIL(s)… something like, “20 Reasons Why We Should Turn Down Obama.”
At the bottom, these viral-emails usually say, “Please forward this to at least 5 people”… or, “Please forward this to as many people as possible” …. or “…to all the registered voters you know.” This is how they spread all over the cyberworld!!!
The template for the viral email can be nicely formatted and would be found at a PUMApac page (the Action Center?) available for us to download or copy and paste into a blank email so we can send it to other people and have them forward it to others.
The viral-email template at PUMApac could be periodically updated to reflect any new relevant information that comes out about BO, etc. Also, when we copy and paste it into our blank email, we can change or modify anything to make it sound better for the person we are sending it to.
I know some organizations (I think even MoveOn.org) have used the viral-email idea to “campaign” and spread info throughout the internet. Why don’t we also do something like that?
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PS. If you didn’t see my other longer post earlier today, here’s the link to it:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/25/cupcake-or-turnips/#comment-66475
(If you hold CTRL while you click, it opens in a new tab)
I’m compiling ideas for ways to “campaign” against BO and spread the word on our PUMA cause. I welcome all ideas and thoughts on this topic.
re: Wieneke and the Bartoshevich martyrdom. Puma PAC actually did a Growl on this when it was first reported that the Wisconsin state party was considering doing this.
The democratic party seems DETERMINED to self-destruct at every level this year.
Re #10 Knoxville Puma
Did anyone watch the HBO presentation of John Adams? This reminds me of the scene where the Continental Congress received a letter from King George in response to their many requests to the crown for changes. Before that letter many of the representatives wanted to remain loyal to England and work things out (sort of like “working from within”). That letter condemned the Congress as traitors and told the representatives that their actions would not be tolerated. That letter united the 13 Colonies and was the catalyst for writing the Declaration on Independence. It was the political turning point in our revolution at least in the movie.
We will no matter what happens at the Convention, we will be the real catalyst for change not Obama or any of his cronies. Rejoice the battles lines are closing and soon we will begin to make history.
A little dramatic? Yeah but I look forward to this fight because I believe we are right. It is a privilege to be a Puma and I am happy you guys are in this with me. Oh did anyone bring some spare musket balls?
I contributed to Sheehan. I am not in Pelosi’s District, but I will do everything I can to kick her lily white to the curb!
(I am lily white too)
#152 Murphy
have you sent that to your people who send out those puma notices?
These are some of the responses I got to my post downstairs on VIRAL EMAILS AGAINST BO (I reposted my post here a little further up).
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446 mzebest
#440 LandiPUMA
If we formulate a viral email… let’s have credible information such as a link to the YouTube of the report on how Obama became Senator… that is the seed of doubt that exposes his corruption at the roots. Next the video of how he copies his speeches from others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU
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453 antifish
#440 LandiPuma,
I think that’s a great idea! As long as everything we list is researched and factual, this is bound to be a winning strategy.
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459 Laurey4Hill
#440 LandiPuma, that is a really good idea. There are so many great writers on this site, maybe they could compose that email with the really good researchers and we can all send them out.
Hint, Hint Maryland Puma, DWP, Mama, MPDamon, Mzebest, etc….
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471 notfolloeinthepiedpoper
#440 LandiPUMA
I’ve been copying and pasting all the reliable posts and articles I can find and launching each one out into the “email ocean” for weeks now. I get notes back from people I don’t even know, saying thanks for the info. This battle will have to be fought and won little by little, person to person with all the media still in Ba-yuk’s pocket.
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I may have missed some that didn’t use my username in replying, but when I have more time I will compile all ideas/suggestions related to this as well as other ideas for persuading others/spreading the word about our cause & rejecting BO.
sandipuma, my email to you bounced. will you email me at murphy@pumapac.org so I can reply with the phone number?
Now I am determined to get that dang friend of yours in here!
goandersen — I’d love to, but I’m too skeered.
Oh no – it should say “happen WITH all the other Pumas.
#158Murphy – if obviously was not a growl I got, sorry.
i am at sandi1wiz@netzero.com
i lost my aol lol
dang aol in the bag for BHO
Just donated $20 to Cindy Sheehan in honor of Hillary.
dwp #161 — no — I try to keep the emails to members down to a reasonable number. My thinking is that members have signed up to receive emails from us (and our individual members) but dont necessarily want us to forward all the emails I get from our sister groups . . .
I may be off in my thinking, but that’s my reasoning
156 InuHanyou1701
PUMAs we are going to run and get a pizza.
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I’ll have my half with anchovies, pleasethankyou.
Amarissa will pay you… she stiffed me on the drink AND the tip.
Oh no – it should say “happen WITH all the other Pumas.
#158 Murphy- sorry, I was unaware of the growl.
ANOTHER NEW GOODIE!
Terry McAuliffe, Hillary Clinton’s best buddy, picks another for VP
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/mcauliffe-cli-1.html
#157 LandiPUMA
This is a GREAT idea. Especially if we can compile enough “evidence”. We should also consider floating this out in MySpace form as well as I already get annoyed to death with all the chain bulletins I get there.
Ok. Going for real now. Be back soon PUMAs!
#169 Murphy
I’m on the mailing list and I love knowing what other PUMAs are doing, even when I can’t participate…
but I understand. They’re probably overwhelmed anyway.
163 murphpaws
There are cycle training classes you can take, they have smaller bikes to learn on. That would build your confidence.
I can just see you flying down the backroads now!
#159 Newcatonthe block.
I missed it. Darn it.
However you reminded me of a little remembered fact about the march from Lexington to Concord. Which triggered the “shot heard round the world”.
The reason they British marched on Concord was to confiscate the colonists firearms.
Much like trying to silence all dissenters. Words are our weapons.
#168 antifish rodham
High fives girl!
OK, I think from now on whoever is first on here should have to donate 20 dollars….haha
#170 DancesWithPumas
Ok, I will pay, just tell the pizza place to come to PR to pick up the money! LOL
172 amarissa
“So the former Democratic Party chair made waves this week after he told a crowd of Virginia Democrats the politician he thinks Barack Obama should choose as his vice presidential running mate.
It wasn’t Clinton –- a possible clue that the Senator from New York has been bumped from Obama’s list of potential VPs. If you needed a clue.
Instead, according to the Falls Church News-Press, McAuliffe pointed to Virginia Governor Tim Kaine. “McAuliffe was adamant in his recommendation of Kaine as the Democratic Party’s vice presidential nominee,” the News-Press reported.”
THANK GOODNESS!!!
#169 Murphpaws
I wouldn’t mind getting those emails either.
FUNNY NEWS FLASH:
A close friend of mine is a die-hard Red Sox fan and a peripheral PUMA (in spirit, but not active). She is at the Sox-Yankees game at Fenway tonight. For those of you who are not baseball fans, it is the ultimate rivalry–going back decades. Lots of media coverage at these games. Sort of like another rivalry we are familiar with…
Anyway, she texted me from the game tonight: “Puma reference on a sign at Sox-Yanks game!”
I haven’t been able to get back to her to find out exactly what one of our own wrote on the sign, but WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!
YAHOO PUMAS!
I just found out that Cindy Sheehan lives in the Mission District of SFO. Cool!
Dances,
she is not far from me then.
Murphy you have mail. Just call me a slow poke
Amarissa:
Ok, I will pay, just tell the pizza place to come to PR to pick up the money!
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If they’re going all the way to PR for the pizza money, you’re gonna have to spring for #92 also!
#158 Murphy – apparently all our growl got from the Wisconsin Democratic party was a third finger – now I think we need to give them a full Hand or PAW whichever is the case – we need to let people know that we are not on a search and destroy mission – that we will hit once and that is it if you survive our hit – they need to know that there will be more coming where that came from if they continue their actions – and it is no longer about the Wisconsin delegate its about all the other delegates and superdelegates that are watching this action and BELIEVE me they ARE watching.
I lied I said I was signing off – but lurked – now back to my projects for Puma.
mp — will you email me the two-faces flyers again?
the blue and the white backgrounds?
thanx!
#180 DancesWithPumas
You think he is doing this with Hillary’s approval? I sure hope so, I couldn’t take another traitor! I love (ed?) Terry! I had a chance to meet him here in PR the night of Hillary’s victory and had my picture taken with him. It was a grand evening! If he is cheating on her it would really hurt!
184 goandersen
The thing about the Mission District, pre-Silicon Valley, is that it was a low rent ghetto of sorts (working poor and working class latinos and lesbians), but the best kept secret was that it had the best weather in all of SFO!
Ok brb need to get up from this chair and walk around. I get stiff. Hmmm sign of old age.
189 Amarissa,
Yes, I do think she approved of his announcement. Would you want to be Obama’s VP? Notice how many have said they weren’t interested? 5 or 6 at least.
#190 DancesWithPumas
That it is, less fog!
There are parts of it that are really ghetto, but some areas that are not.
Oh hell, the whole world is becoming a ghetto!
SandiPUMA
I emailed you the written instructions for Tigress.
Please foward them to her.
sandi you have mail too!
Hi goalucard. sorry about the clunkiness of the site the last day and a half. My fingers are crossed that the hosting company is getting its act together.
X
Murphy
On their way.
dwp and goandersen — well . . . you two are my bellweathers so I therefore I will tell the regional moderators to forward.
thanks!
mp -
soon you and trish wont be able to laugh at me for my mad uploading/downloading skilz!
Here’s the link for the Democrats up for reelection if any of you want to get busy unelecting them.
http://dccc.org/page/content/races
#28 maxgrader on 07.25.08 at 8:53 pm Have you heard? I’m surprised that pumas are not talking about it. Not one mention of John Edwards on this thread. Can FOX be trusted on this one?
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The thing is maxgrader that if it is true and most of believe where there is smoke there is fire, and thus we are in empathy for Mrs. Elizabeth Edwards.
And it is still gossip right now, right?
we’re more like bell peppers…but, ok.
Murphy, which web hoseting company would that be?
I did a little research from work today, and decided to get a blog (not public) so that I could learn the mechanics of it. (i’m a Gemini, we need to know everything, just for the sake of knowing).
#197 OMG Murphy it is time for me to say good nite I misread your post I thought you said you two are my bed wetters. LOL
Murphyyyyyyyy
You jinxed it. I just got my first 500 error of the night.
And you have to admit, the squirrel popping up and Trish’s nuts comment was hysterically funny.
#201 DancesWithPumas
LOL!
Make that two errors now.
#202 Pookie
ROFLMAO – too much sangria in the PUMA den!
#202 Pookie
That was Dances secret. LOL!
Go Vote! Will Obama’s Worldwide Ego Trip help or hurt him?
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/18/hot-seat-obamas-world-tour/
pookie, well that too.
dwp — dreamhost. let me know if you find a better one. I like their prices and support — very easy and friendly — laid back California company.
But with 1 million site visits a month, Puma PAC can’t afford to be down for even an hour.
I think I know why no one wants to be Bo’s VP, they know, HE, is not smart enough to be President, and they know, THEY, are not smart enough to take up the slack.Bo does not want Hillary because he know’s she is smarter then all of them put together!
202 Pookie
#197 OMG Murphy it is time for me to say good nite I misread your post I thought you said you two are my bed wetters. LOL
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LOL! LOL! omg! ROFL!!
(Pssst … Pookie… not me…. that would be goandersen shsssh)
People, people, people…. Missed the earlier post, but from what I am gathering, Debra Bartoshevich lost her standing as a delegate.
That’s because the Party Rules say that as a delegate one must enter the Convention in “good faith” and that means, obeying party rules. So if a person says they are going republican… that is NOT good faith.
Kind of like bishops gathering to vote for the next pope, and one of them says, I am going to vote for rabbi Ishmael.
It ain’t a gonna fly!
Voting in November under the General Election is quite another thing because that falls under the Constitution of the United States.
But-
Party Rules are just that, Party rules… as in an organization setting up its own bylaws. The DNC has nothing to do with our voter rights because its not in our Constitution.
- Primaries are not in our Constitution.
- Conventions are not in our Constitution.
antifish #207 — i voted. VERY interesting. My own wonderful state is not falling in line. Go massachusetts!
If a Democrat for Prez can’t win in Massachusetts then where the heck CAN he win??
210 DancesWithPumas
Oh no you don’t. I saw that depends pop up on your email!
LOL!
Murphy-
dean had to stop his speech because we were chanting “PUMA” too loud! we asked about Hillary being placed in nomination and all he would say was that she would be on roll call “if she chooses to be”. needless to say we were unpleased with that. We were very pleased to have many passer bys honking for Hillary. I think we threw him a little off kilter. They actually called in 3 more squad cars. of course we were a peaceful bunch and there were no issues. the Charlotte Observer as well as WCNC news was there and did interviews. I tried to get on camera and in print but they seemed only interested in promoting the stereotype of the “angry, old women” and declined to hear from the 27 year old…go figure!
213 goandersen
UNCLE
215 Dances
LOL!
I swear if I type one more entry only to have it go off into oblivion when I press submit, I’m going to hurt something! Roar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People all over the world will be watching what happens in Denver. Thousands of reporters will be there to cover these events. And hundreds of them will seek out PUMAs for interviews. They will ask why we object to BO’s nomination. Study the issues and be prepared to offer lucid and concise analyses of things like delegate selection and role; caucuses versus primaries; and procedures for nomination and balloting at the convention. Above all, please, remember this. Even if push comes to shove and law enforcement arrest protesters en masse, absolutely nothing else we do will focus the attention of the world on our cause as much as the sight of thousands of middle-aged women willing to risk incarceration to stand up for what they believe is right. And never forget the world is watching.
I am so sad my son and I are unable to be there.
Now, as I was attempting to post.
Dances and goandersen, keep those skilz under wraps. When we get to Denver, we’ll find out where Dean, Pelosi and Brazile are sleeping and let you have at their beds!
#217 antifish
Me too anti. I am having trouble cutting and pasting as well. Grrrrrrr!
antifish,
if you remember… copy your post before you hit submit… esp if it’s a long one, then just paste it in the return trip.
LOL Yup…
WE GOT SKILZ!
OMG. i KNOW i’m not supposed to visit anti-puma sites, I know it — but I was noticing on our stats page that yestodemocracy linked to us today. Bright bulb Christina is mocking me for not knowing that Leibniz’ Law is a scientific principle (of course it’s a philosophical theory, not a scientific principle, but to explain the difference to such an intellectually challenged. . . oh never mind). Anyway she thinks I’m ridiculous for thinking that Axelrod should be arrested for breaking Leibniz’ Law.
oh god.
oh lord.
oh boy.
zero comments over there so I guess we should let it die on the vine, but, oh boy.
#182 hillwarrior on 07.25.08 at 10:16 pm
I was talking about that at Bitter Politics and the last thread here.
My roommate and I were watching the game (two diehard sox fans here… actually all my roommates are)… and we caught that on tv.
There was a sign that said “Welcome back Big Papi” with the word PUMA in the corner of the sign.
It was cool to see that.
#217 antifish I have had the same problem all evening I had to type this 2 X’s
hey, you Republican PUMAS! Guess what VP Obala is “floating” a Republican from W’s cabinet! A woman, sillies! And if you don’t like it, you get a GOP guy!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/a-bushie-gop-vp-for-obama-its-female-too/
queen 81 — that is so great!! I love the tshirts!
#219 antifish
A Pee-In? Or at the Pee Inn?
#222 murphy on 07.25.08 at 10:44 pm
tsk tsk tsk, Murphy.
Pay no attention to that site.
Murphy,
I read that earlier. They stated it out of context, so the joke, from my pov, was on them.
How many times do we have to tell you not to go there?
You’re grounded… puma sites only or no allowance.
I noticed zero comments too. Ha. Karmic returns!
She needs us to keep her intellectually dishonest swamp alive… let’s starve it to death.
I’m back!
#170 DancesWithPumas
IGNORE! IGNORE!
bye David.
yeah — I’ll stay away — thanks guys. But like Atrios says, the stupid — it burns!
ok back to the nice me.
I just got this email from a friend of mine from Chicago, that is very close to the Hillary campaign. See for yourself from the mouth of one of our soldiers.
From: xxxxxxx
Date: 07/25/08 10:18:02
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: This came via a fellow SEAL, just kind of makes me sick to see the truth that the news won’t report. Our men and women in the service deserve better than this.
A friend passed this along… a message from Captain Jeffrey Porter,
currently serving in Afghanistan, to his family and friends back home:
Hello everyone,
As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass
along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour
on his visit to ‘The War Zone’. I wanted to share with you what
happened.
He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof
vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who
is the commander here at Bagram.
As the Soldiers were lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and
didn’t say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the
General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell
(pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play
basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity
pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity t o talk
to Soldiers to thank them for their service.
So really he was just here to make a showing for the American’s back
home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are
going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank
those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.
I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the
Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from Senator, who wants to be the
President of the United States. I just don’t understand how anyone
would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he
was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our
great country.
If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to
know what kind of caliber of
person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.
In service,
CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
&nbs p;Battle Captain
TF Wasatch
American Soldier
#89 jenniforhillary on 07.25.08 at 9:30 pm Edwards did it. It will all come out, but the National Enquirer is rarely wrong.
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Just catching up on the blog and this made me laugh… Surely you’re not serious… that rag of a magazine has never printed the full truth on anything… its nothing more than a gossip magazine
yeah — I’ll stay away — thanks guys. But like Atrios says, the stupid — it burns!
ok back to the nice me.
No, Andersen, The Your Inn!
Oh crap, here come buzz kill David again… the boy whose goal in life is to upset people. What a waste of oxygen.
28 years old and has never voted, yet thinks nothing of coming in here to try and undermine us. Typical lackwitted Obotpod.
#228 N0BamaDavid on 07.25.08 at 10:48 pm
The paradigm shifts this election cycle are amazing, huh?
A lot of my friends have voted for or donated to the opposite candidate in order to hinder the opposition.
I live in MA so it is most likely going to go to Dems. But, some friends of mine have donated, like Murphy, to McCain in 2000 or supported him other ways, hoping that it would prevent Bush from getting into office… alas, their efforts were for naught.
I’ve voted for Repubs downticket, usually because there is no opposition but never for Prez. This may be my first year… if I should choose that path.
I would never have imagined that I would be watching Fox news as my anchor station. (meaning I use many sources, but usually flip to Fox first these days).
That bone I threw ole David did’nt go far enough, oop’s that’s okay Murphy re threw it and he is chasing it now
230 InuHanyou1701
Send it over to blog box #260 and I’ll meet it there right after I wash my hands.
I think murphy is wound tonight. She needs to create a nightly prowl!!!
237 anti rodham
LOL!
#209 Pookie
It’s the same reason Hillary doesn’t want to be his VP. Why should they drag their OWN political career down for the Chosen One? If he’s so great, he doesn’t even NEED a VP.
#241 DancesWithPumas
inhanyou — speaking of the 24th century, do you read any of Kage Baker’s books?
#246 murphy
No I don’t. But if my library has any I can pick up one of his books.
Is this a recommendation? Always looking for books to add to my reading list (Which I chisel away at in between my writing projects)
#244 Inu,
Hi, haven’t spoken with you in a while.
You’re right. The Precious doesn’t need a VP, He is so two-faced and has such a large ego that he can handle both positions himself. He’ll just use the full-length mirror that one of his aides is paid to carry around for him whenever he needs to meet with the VP.
OMG – this was funny….and a JOKE:
`Walking Eagle` senator BARACK OBAMA was invited to address a majorgathering of the American Indian Nation two weeks ago in upstate NewYork . HE spoke for almost an hour on HIS future plans for increasingevery Native American`s present standard of living, should HE one daybecome the President. He referred to his career as a Senator, how hehad signed `YES` for every Indian issue that came to his desk forapproval. Although the Senator was vague on the details of his plan,he seemed most enthusiastic about his future ideas for helping his`red sisters and brothers`. At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented the Senatorwith a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name – Walking Eagle. The proud Senator then departed in his motorcade, waving to the crowds. A news reporter later inquired to the group of chiefs of how theycame to select the new name had given to the Senator. They explained that Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.
Can you just imagine if Hillary was VP Every time he screwed up which would be often Hillary would have to take the blame.
#248 antifish
Oh and… or. He could clone himself…. eh… but then there would be 2 of him in the world. Gag! As if one isn’t bad enough!
I voted for a Republican (first time in my life) in an attempt to stop musclehead from becoming Gov of CA.
Scwartzenegger won anyway (but they had to use dirty tricks to recall Gray Davis, otherwise he would have won).
BTW this week Arnie announced that he was going to cut the hourly wages of 200,000 state employees back to minimum wage!
#250 Pookie
I’m sure that’s one reason they were trying to get her to take the VP slot.
Go Hillary!!!
Go PUMA’s!!!
Love the walking eagle story, fits Obama to a T!!!!!
We need a picture of an Eagle walking… with O’s face morphed into it.
Good Evening My PUMA FAMILY,
As a former member of the military I was ready to fight for and die for the rights we so love and at times take for granted. Even when I was not entitled to many of those rights for being Gay. I can not believe that today we must fight those very ones who I was ready to defend. But fight we must. It saddened me so when I heard that Obama would not visit the wounded in Germany. I guess he did not want to come down from his high after his rock concert. And now with the stripping of delegates just for exercising a right so many have died for is the ultimate last straw. I am now in 200% mode to find an antidote to the Kool Aid mixture so we may restore democracy to our democratic party. I will have so much pleasure watching the whole Obama machine implode. My one true regret is that I do not like feeling this way. I am normally so optimistic and upbeat. I keep thinking brighter days are ahead. I always go to the Hillary in the Rain photo for my lift me ups. Stay true PUMA’S. Now more then ever we need strength and resolve. We need each other.
Hi everyone – first post for me today. I’ve read about Edwards, Debra B., Bo’s trip to Europe – it’s all too much for me – so depressing -the Democratic party is falling apart at the seams and our own people are ripping it to shreds for their own egos. I guess I’m just down tonight in a way I haven’t been since May 31st.
The important thing to do is the EW (Electability Watch) taking action to get Hillary’s name in the nomination in Denver. To do that and get templates of letters that you can send to 18 super delegates (one for each million people that voted for Hillary) contact Ricki Lieberman and she can provide all the information needed.
Or, ofcourse, you can write your own letter but it should concise, respectful and accurate. Sorry to be such a wet rag, but my glass feels half empty tonight. And usually I’m the optimist.
My husband is the one with the half empty glass and I’m usually half full – his is not only half empty, it falls off the table, shatters, cuts an artery in his leg and he bleeds out. I, on the other hand, am usually full of joy and optimism – but something is scaring me tonight about Obama and his resilience and teflon qualities.
Anyway, again, sorry to vent in such a negative way, but this is how I feel tonight.
For more on the EW ( Electability Watch) see below:
ELECTABILITY WATCH (EW)
RASMUSSEN: Obama 46%, McCain 41%.
GALLUP: Obama 47%, McCain 41%
From Ricki:
All,
The question all over TV last night has a simple answer:
Q: Who is more qualified to handle forein affairs, Obama or McCain?
A. Neither. The answer is Hillary Clinton.
Again, this evening, after all the attention paid to BO, the presumptuous nominee, it is Hillary Clinton who seems more Presidential than ever. We know that with her as the Democratic nominee, the Democrats will take back the White House. But not Obama who many of us thought was an authentic embarrassment these past few days.
Please take the 15-30 minutes a week to remind the Super Delegates that we want a Democrat in the White House, that their sole job in Denver is to select the electable candidate, and she is HRC. Please let me know, and we will set you up to “do the EW”.
As Kate from Illinois said, “Count me in. Obama becomes more unelectable every day. Hillary can beat McCain. End of story.”
Example of letter to S.D.
“On June 7, Senator Clinton suspended, not ended her campaign. Like many other Democrats across the country, I am writing to at last 18 Super Delegates – one for every million votes Senator Clinton received, whose only job at the convention this summer is to pick the electable candidate in November. I believe that candidate is Senator Hillary Clinton and that she is theperson who can return the Democrats to the White House in 2008, a goal we all share.
In the coming weeks, we will be writing to Super Delegates about Hillary’s electability, and why we believe that BO is not qualified to be President, or fit ased on his own three criteria: Values, judgment and experience. (add the information, links opinions and facts you think most persuasive here).
Thank you for your attention to my point of view on the all important issue of electability and your critical role in returning a Democrat to the White House. I look forward to our continuing conversations in the coming weeks.”
From Lorelai again…..
I believe taking taking action is the only way I’m going to get out of my funk, but also believe that we’ve lost the forest for the trees. The role of the delegates is to nominate the most electable and BO has failed to seal the deal- even after he spent the most money, has gotten an over the top free media ride, and has everyone treating him like a golden boy. He should be much farther ahead given all these “gifts” but I believe, most rational people in their gut, know an empty suit when they see one and can’t climb on board (for fear that at some point they’d be thrown overboard)…..
Thanks for listening Pumas….Lorelai
#256 Gay guy you are so right , but I can not even imagine if Nobama is elected that Our Country will be this way
#256 Gay Guy,
From another gay former service member, hi.
I have the Hillary in the rain photo as my wallpaper on my computer. I love that photo so much.
Obama’s refusal to visit the wounded at Landstuhl didn’t sadden me, it enraged me. How dare he think it more important to work out than to visit the soldiers who are sacrificing so much for us all! It just make me more determined to defeat him.
Murphy – If we do the viral email – this needs to be at the top of the list!
WOW Walking Eagle and also a stump turtle. Poor “it”.
Hi Gayguy, Your comments always inspire me.
antifish: Amen! Amen! Amen!
I meant to say a post turtle, not a stump one. lol
#260 bluegrasstrina: correction: “post turtle”
Lol – I think meant to say “sorry to be such a wet blanket, not “wet rag”….sorry – long week….:(
#259 antifish
Oh Anti! Where did you get that picture! Can I get a link? *Puppy dog eyes* Pretty please?
Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the Lord my bed not to wet .LOL
Good nite Puma’s
#214 queen81
Here is the Charlotte News regarding Dean’s bus tour
http://campaigntracker.blogspot.com/2008/07/hillary-protesters-greet-dean-in.html
#256…Always a pleasure to read your posts Gay Guy…What a sad day when our wounded are not given the decency of even a simple handshake, a smile or a few kind words from Mr. Presumptive. It breaks my heart.
Antifish…You being enraged is justified.
antifish and gay guy (I remember you from Hillary’s site, although they never posted anything I wrote… appreciated your posts though!)
The back story is that the Pentagon wouldn’t let O visit the wounded. Truth of fiction?
Goodnight Pookie!
#270 DancesWithPumas
Ah but Dances. BHO is the Presumptive President. He’s going to make us all come together and sing kumbayah (And I totally butchered the spelling of that…). Why wouldn’t they let him go? Who knows? Maybe if he touches them he’ll be able to heal them!
#270 DancesWithPumas
I find that hard to believe, after all he’s the sun that shines every morning, no one has yet refused Bo what he wants
273
I find it hard to believe too… unless the Pentagon saw through Lord Oba’s charade and didn’t want him to exploit the wounded for his own slimey measley gain.
Inu,
I’m trying to find the photo. No luck so far.
Nite, Pookie!
#275 antifish
=3 You’re awesome as always. Thank you!
272 InuHanyou1701
You did fine… just leave off the “h” = kumbaya
anti
check your email
One suggestion for people who are going nuts ‘cos they loose their post when they click “submit” and have to type it over…
What I’ve been doing is, right before hitting ‘submit’, I select the whole post (CTRL + A), then copy it (CTRL + C) then click on the post and submit it. Then if I get the “error” page I refresh the post page, paste my post in the “leave a comment” box (CTRL + V) and the whole post is back intact.
It usually goes through fine the second time I try to submit after getting an ‘error’ page.
#277 DancesWithPumas
PUMAS shown in ABC video in NC
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/politics&id=6286692
The other day I went downtown and into a shop. I was only there for about 5 minutes, and when I came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. I said to him, ‘Come on, man, how about giving a retired person a break’? He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. I called him a ‘Nazi.’ He glared at me and wrote another ticket for having worn tires. So I called him a ‘doughnut eating Gestapo.’ He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he wrote a third ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more I abused him the more tickets he wrote. Personally, I didn’t care. I came downtown on the bus, and the car that he was putting the tickets on had a bumper sticker that said, ‘Obama in ’08 .’ I try to have a little fun each day now that I’m retired. It’s important to my health.
BWI (Baltimore) airport. Had to take my g/d to catch a plane tonight and while we were wasting time, we walked into one of the newstands. There was a special section of BO stuff, shirts, hats, his books, pens, you name it, it was there. Also, among his stuff was White House stuff/trinkets. The only thing I saw regarding McCain was pins at the cash register, next to the BO pins.
282 Vonay
LOL LOL LOL!!!
Inu,
I had to view millions of photos of Hillary (not that I mind) but I finally found it! If you want to make it your wallpaper, just right click your mouse and choose that option.
http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00179/hillary_179393t.jpg
257 Lorelai ~ you are so right!!!
I just got through reading a personal email from Ricki~ she ask to recruit others for the Electability Watch ~ this is what Ricki had to say:
Our target until the convention has to be the delegates and making sure they are the ones who know and who are held accountable to do their job – to select the electable candidate to bring the Democrats back to the White House.
As for others – it would be nice if everyone “knew” but we have to focus on the decision makers.Please recruit people for the Electability Watch so that we are deepening our reach to the SDs…GO GO GO!
Ricki
if you are interested in getting the EW~ please write Ricki and ask for her Electability Watch at: rrlieberma@gmail.com
I hope you PUMA’s will support Ricki also~
#285 antifish
Thank you anti! You’re awesome! Very much appreciated.
Thank you, goandersen. You could have saved me from looking at all those photos of Hillary if I’d checked my email in time. Just think of what I would have missed! LOL!
Danceswithpumas #284,
hehhehheh snort~~~snort
TrishfromCanada…
actually I am 100% serious about truth vs. lies in the National Enquirer. I have a Juris Doctorate, and let me tell you they would have been out of business the day they started if what they printed was not true…
The National Enquirer is simply where ex boyfriends, girlfriends, friends, business partners, and others go to sell their secrets. It is the oldest trick in the book, and it smarts like hell.
Edwards did it, he is the father of this poor child, and he should resign in shame and beg the forgiveness of the baby and his wife.
I am tired of men. I apologize ahead of time to all good men, but I really am. And I am tired of the holier than thoughs being dirtier than pigs in slop.
I do laugh though when I think of him screaming about his lost chance at the White House, again. Sorry Edwards, karma cuts like a bitch ya know!
#282 Vonay
*rofl* That made my day! I have to jot one down so i can read it when I’m feeling down and out!
#287 Inu,
You’re welcome. You’re pretty awesome yourself!
288 anti rodham
I got to look through mine too!
turtle soup site!
#292 antifish
InuHanyou1701 ,
Sometimes I get down thinking about how this election has been going and a little joke like that cheers me up. Glad you liked it.
antifish you’ve got mail
#287 InuHanyou1701
I sent you mail on you space~
hello Jenniforhillary!
#282 Vonay
ROflmao!!!!!!
Snort snort.
#298 SouthJerseyPUMA
I’ll check right now. Thanks for telling me.
With so many feeling down its time to repost this. Always gives me a lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oajdDnYDnwM
hiya jersey….
go pumas
i agree, in this world of insanity this is our respite from the heathens!
snowtiger,
I thought about you when I snorted…….ROFL
303 ~hi snowtiger~ yes, I am just so amazed that we (the country) are where we are! thank you for the lift!
how about anti-obama jokes? is this okay murphy?
Dances,
You have mail.
TOPIC: MEDIA COVERAGE
OK, PUMAS! Rest assured the Tide is Turning!
Within just days of each other, both the NY Times & LA Times http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-challenges25-2008jul25,0,7705783,full.story
have news items that say not-nice things about Obama.
Do you realize the significance of the fact 2 influential liberal newspapers are both having very public doubts about Obama?
It’s all starting to unravel… & the timing for Hillary to come to the aid of her country is just about Perfect!!!
I’ll drink to that!
CHEERS to the end of the insanity….drinks on that man!
309 hillstheone
and he still has three more weeks before convention…
and possibly (for him) two months in which to dig himself deeper into a hole…
I want to see this man implode… I want to witness it and applaud.
I wish I had something to drink! Cheers! anyhow puma’s!! [with my water] lol…
3305 Vonay I remembered your getting a laugh out of my snort.
Your story is going have me laughing like an idiot for weeks. Can’t wait to tell my Dad about it, he will say, “Now there is a real Democrat.”
My father was a bit of an agitator back in the day. Organizing unions in the south during the fifties.
snowtiger, you are right about Debra B. when she agreed to be a delegate she did sign a document saying that she would back the Democratic nominee. I can understand why the DNC would insist on this. She did say that she was going to break the rules, so, she in essence invalidated her own position.
TOPIC: East & West Coast
You know every day you PUMAS all get to start partying on the East Coast before we do out here.
But that just means by the time we log in you’re toasted and more fun to prowl with, ha ha!
More serious topic tho is the Daily Prowls. The way it is now is fine but a greater impact might even be made w/a different approach once in a while because many of us don’t do the daily prowl until we get home from work (midnight your time).
Murphy if you ever want to do a massive Daily Prowl then I think you need to have someone on this side of the country mail it out about 9:00 p.m. PCT. That way we get started on it over here, the next morning the East Coast Pumas finish it off. Or you might like to think about that if you want to target west coast media in particular. Like, maybe if & when Dean and his bus buddies reach Sunny So Cal…
dance~ i would love to join you!!!
306 My pleasure south jersey. We are fighting a hard long battle. Need to remind myself what we are fighting for every now and again and I swear that vid does it.
Makes me want to go out and chop a trolls head off. Lol.
hahaaa!!! lmao!!
DanceswithPumas:
“Hillary! NOW is the Time for All Great Women to Come to the Aid of Their Country!!!!!!!!!!”
p.s. but check w/your local astrologer first. Or at least, do it at the New Moon, which is Friday, August 1st.
inhanyou #247 — kage Baker is great — really good if you like steamboat punk science fiction. The Children of the Company series is the best, but I love all her stuff.
Start with any short stories. the first in the Company series is In the Garden of Iden.
Need a good laugh check this out:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
re#218 jbjb…
I hear ya..
that’s why it’s important PUMA has a wider representation of PUMAS beyond “middle age women” as the MSM describes because the MSM will use a sexist spin to ridicule and thereby nullify the real message PUMA has to offer America…
you can bet the MSM cameras will be ordered from on high to focus on nothing but irate middle age women screaming Hillary! Hillary! in order to portray them in the light of being nothing more than a bunch of old female sour grapes geezers who are against change..that’s why its important we have a wider representation of PUMAS in DENVER..more young people and minorities
dances—me too. And on that day I will know that there is a god….dess
Still playing catch-up, or soy sauce, or whatever you want to call it!
TOPIC: Great Artists!
Great artwork, nicely done Amarissa, whoo-hoo!!!
http://womenstate.blogspot.com/
as far as a mix of representation goes…let’s make sure we don’t ask the muslims to sit in the back
#314 gocleffnote.
I prefer to think of it as her sacrificing herself for the greater good. I admire the woman and I understand why people here are upset but, she chose to stand and suffer the consequences. I think we should all send her a note of support.
Would do more imho, than trying to argue with the dnc.
Of course we can use this as an opportunity to tell them how we feel. Again
Hi Freepuma!
I loved your song today (Oh Susanna)!! ;D
Darn, I do not have time to read the PUMA blogs tonight, but I thought I say hello and good night.
See you tomorrow!
“Many voters still seem to be puzzling over who Obama is, even after a race that has lasted a year and a half. By 58% to 47%, voters identity more with the values and background of McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, than with Obama, according to a newly released Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.
Obama may also be slipping in some key states. He lost a narrow lead in Colorado, falling 5 percentage points in the past month, and now trails McCain 46% to 44%, a new Quinnipiac University poll found. In Minnesota, Obama fell 8 percentage points, though he still leads McCain 46% to 44%, the survey found. The polling spanned the five days before Obama went abroad and the first four days of his trip.”
No wonder Obotpods are trying to force their way in here… their candy-date is only 1 % ahead of mccain…
and for all Oba’s money and exposure… it doesn’t seem to be paying off.
nyuck nyuck nyuck
yes, i was very discouraged yesterday~ so many dont care, want to know, dont vote, tell me it is dooms day, had me really stressed out!!!
but I lnow I am with many GREAT PUMA’s [ like jenniforhillary, diva2, sonia] and they give me such hope and inspiration!!! thank you ladies!!
#327 HT1
I bet Chris Matthews likes it too..
#320 murphy
I’ll be sure to check it out. Thank you for the recommendation Murphy.
I think not knowing him is better for his polls, because once you know him you hate him….
think about the primaries…the longer he was in a state the worse he did (except for CERTAIN states)….
Done with Dumb, ready for HILLARY NOW!!!
hillstheone…great article! Things are looking up!
snowtiger, I thought that story was worth a snort…heheh
Your dad is one cool guy!
thanks for the uplift jersey….right back at ya….
PUMA power is the best!
Earlier someone said: I think Chris Mathews wants a date with Obama!
lol
Niters, Pumas!
Night my Puma friends. Going to rest my paws.
Freepuma, you silly puma,
You forgot to include K Olbermann in your “Oh Susanna” lyrics! ;D
“I come from the US of Obamaican
With Keith Olbermann on my knee,
and that’s because he loves me so
And hated Hill-a-ry
Oh, Chris Matthews,
Oh don’t you cry for me,
For great big Keith, he loves me more,
Chris Matthews, can’t you see?!!”
It rained all day, the day I left,
Air America saluted me
Now I’m far away
in my private jet
Chris Matthews can’t you see
OH, Chris Matthews,
(And all of msnbc),
“Now I come from the U.S. of Obamican,
With Keith Olbermann on my knee!”
#329 DancesWithPumas
It’s insane! This race has lasted so long and we know even LESS about the guy than when we started! And why the heck are people still voting for him! It’s very frustrating. Very frustrating indeed. Though, it’s nice to see his lead is slipping.
Nite-nite, Vonay & antifish, sweet dreams…
#259 antifish on 07.25.08 at 11:14 pm, WROTE TO,
#256 Gay Guy,
[[ From another gay former service member, hi.
I have the Hillary in the rain photo as my wallpaper on my computer. I love that photo so much.
Note: Go the posting too quickly prompt. Think that refers to the number of seconds from typing time to hitting the Submit button. ~ Stop typing, then, try waiting 20 seconds. Then SEND.
Obama’s refusal to visit the wounded at Landstuhl didn’t sadden me, it enraged me. How dare he think it more important to work out than to visit the soldiers who are sacrificing so much for us all! It just make me more determined to defeat him.]]
They said tonight on FoxNews that he couldnt vist the troops in Germany because he was not allowed as part of his campaign trip; or so his campaign staffers said. But the read the governmental letter and the wording just said that *if* he visited the troops he could take any campaign staffers or news media. The follow-up from the FoxNews person said, well, he visited the Troops in Afganistan and Iraq, didn’t he?
But now you two are saying that he didn’t even do that—wow!
Did you hear the story awhile back, about a soilder returning seeking medical aid… wrote to his 3 Chicago senators… two responded… and one did not. The one that did not, was BHO.
Amazing???
Go here,
Created by a fellow PUMA
Who is a terrific young artist
http://www.amindofmyowncoalition.blogspot.com
Night anti! Night Vonay!
Dances, you are so right. #329
I love telling his bots of on the net that after all the money precious has spent, after all the biased media, after Hillary came out and supported him, precious is going down not up in the polls.
I love the desperation in their posts and actions.
They need to get over it already.
Hey “o” lurkers? Can you hear the footsteps of doom coming your way?
Muhahahahah! >:)
Dick Morris, on FOX, just said what I have been thinking the last 3 months~~~that Bush/Israel will attack Iran BEFORE the election. The Saudis, Kuwaiti’s, Syrians, Iraqis, etc, will call condemn it publicly but celebrate it privately. Part of it hinges on whether Musharraf remains in power.
But if this happens it will get McCain elected. (If Bush doesn’t suspend the election and declare for a special 3rd term because of a national emergency) Israel might postpone the attack if Hillary Clinton got the nomination and was elected, based on her past experience and the support of the ex-clinton administration.
The attack on Iran seems to be a foregone conclusion. Just whether it will occur in Sept., Oct. or after the election.
But Obama would be the absolutely worst pick in the event of war and equally bad for the economy because of his proposed new taxes. I think this european trip is going to come back to bite his egmaniacal ass.
dwp #255, sounds like a job for dwp.
RE Debra Bartoshevich
Ok. I’ve calmed myself down a bit and have greatly benefitted from reading comments here. Thank you all. I have to hold my head down in shame and admit that I only learned of this situation today. I’m trying to do too many things, I suppose.
*****
#74 Firebelle Puma
Thank you for helping to clarify the rules.
*****
#211 cosmeta
Thank you for the informative perspective on party rules. I’m not sure I agree with you, though, for two reasons. First, our rights are to some degree inherent. Parties and primaries may not be in the constitution, but our system of representative government in practice DOES work through a party system, which has largely become a two-party system. Our party has primaries and caucuses for the purpose of representing us. Not only is our right to be represented inherent, it’s implicit in the very fact that they ask us to go and vote or stand to be counted. Second, it’s not politically expedient for the party to blow us off. They don’t want to represent us well, but they want us to vote for them. Is that it?
*****
#20 DancesWithPumas
I meant “war” in a figurative sense. You’ve been engaging in this “war” for months! Again, in a figurative sense… sorry.
*****
#108 Goalucard4Hill, #151 pamawo,
Thank you for your earlier efforts and for letting me know that I’m not alone in seeing the infinitely significant implications in what the real problem with what the party has done in this case.
I understand the party rules a little better now and understand that, as a delegate, Debra Bartoshevich was supposed to say that she would support whoever became the nominee as a result of the convention. But I also believe that it was the Democratic Party of Wisconsin who went to the DNC, that the DNC told the Democratic Party of Wisconsin to handle it themselves, and that the result was, well, we know the result.
My point is that the rule may exist, but that they did not have to do what they did. They chose to. Knowing that so many of us stalwart Democrats have felt unrepresented as a result of the process and because of their inappropriate actions and inactions, they could have deferred to higher principles of democracy rather than blindly and stupid enforce a party rule.
As for what we’re doing being about Hillary, I disagree. We’re doing what we’re doing because of the principle of equal treatment (which Hillary did not receive) and because of the principle of full democratic participation (which people in caucus states did not enjoy), i.e. because of principles that were stepped on and tossed out with the trash during the nomination process.
I also tend to dismiss the idea that Debra Bartoshevich is a martyr, also because I think that the significance is rather about a principle of democacy. Her case proves the point that the party is willing to step on lifelong Democrats and to deny them a right as Democrats to dissent at a time when dissension is exactly the right way to be a true Democrat.
Dissent is essential to democracy. Shouldn’t supposed leaders of a party that calls itself Democratic know that?
#322 freepuma
re#218 jbjb…
I hear ya..
that’s why it’s important PUMA has a wider representation of PUMAS beyond “middle age women”
Women in our society are degraded the longer they live. Die young and beautiful or live a good life, be a mother or a single woman…wisdom does not come from youth.
Degrading women of any age isn’t acceptable. If all Hillary’s supports were 85 years old, that wouldn’t be grounds for disqualification or disrespect.
Night anti Night Vonay.
dad is a card all right and he loves pumas. Always asking me what is going on here. Cant use a comp however.
#290 jenniforhillary
Juris Doctorate or not, the Enquirer is a rag magazine that has been sued many times for the number of lies it writes. And when we start holding that trashy filth of a gossip magazine up as a reliable source then I know its definitely time for me to say good night. That and the fact I’m getting booted on a regular basis here tonight has left me frustrated.
Night Everyone
Jenni~ you are so welcome! gonna check the HC forum~
Goodnight PUMA’s~ keep those claws sharpened!!!
sweet dreams~
#336 DancesWithPumas ~~~Matthews might have to fight it out with Cholms for a date with O.
346 murphy
dwp #255, sounds like a job for dwp.
Done. It will keep me out of trouble.
re#330 SJP..
look at the bright side of things ..more and more people are beginning to see through all this Obama mania nonsense and it is being reflected more and more in the polls lately that Americans think the media is biased and unfair..thats a powerful development right there..it’s really amazing that Obamas little european vacation did little to boost him..actually polls show he has actually lost ground to McCain!!!
so look at the silver lining behind the dark clouds..you’re gonna be really surprised at how this election is going to turn around..
snowtiger: you need to teach him how to use one, might open up a whole new world for him..?
Also…how are the folks at your store doing these days??
I also have gotten alot of “can not find the page” errors~
352 MountainSong…
Truly, if I didn’t dislike them so much, I’d be embarrassed for them. Actually, I do dislike them, and I’m also embarrassed for them
Oba is liek the miley cyrus of their gender and generation
HIya Hills,
He refuses to learn. says its a stupid thing only guppies (his word for yuppies) use. He is a crusty old democrat.
As to the store. Well, no one is supporting 61 anymore. Not vocally anyway. The people who were have all stopped talking about him. Like I said in an earlier post one of the worst things this fraud did was dash the hopes of many sincere people.
But on a good note I have no more koolaid.
After all the goings on around the world, it has become clear to me that it is time to consider forming a new party. Throughout history whenever the leaders of a country reach a certain level of corruption and arrogance, the people are forced to take over and force a new era. Otherwise, the country and its government will be taken over or collapse.
We have seen this twice in our own history. First with the Revolution against England, and second in the Civil War. In Japan it was the Bakamatsu that forced change from Shogun rule back to Imperial rune and to modern times.
A new era is dawning in our country. We should embrace this new era. We need to take our 18 million voices and raise them in a new and better political party, a party that is truly of the people, and not for the inner circle. The two existing political parties have become corrupted and ineffective in executing the will of the membership and working for the good of the country. We cannot allow this to continue.
We PUMAs are like the Japanese Rounin, masterless Samauri, who do what is right, not what some corrupt leader tells us to do.
Leaders like Cindy Shehan are lighting the way for us lesser souls. We need to embrace her and all the stalwart individuals who are taking us into the new era. We will no longer follow the Jester to our demise. Let them destroy themselves while we work together to create that new and better day.
freepuma:
I hope you don’t sue me for copyright infringement, LOL…
Speaking of music, both the new BoDeans CD & the new Willie Nelson / Wynton Marsalis CD’s are good. Also what happened to the poster violet hill, she must have been a Coldplay fan…
“Good music to blog by!”
yournorhternneighbor:
I am leaving for Canada soon & will be leaving fliers all the way up through Washington…just thought you’d like to know!
night south jersy
night trish
354~ hi Free~
thank you for that! I see what you are saying~ and I am happy when I read or hear the news say along that line~ it just po’s me that my area neighbors are so ignorant to how serious this is and that they want to be the forst to bitch but they arent registered, or say it’s over, Hillary is out! I tell those who say about Hillary the truth~ suspended, still has her del’s, but they say yea right!
It is just nice to know that I have so many here that are fighting for Hillary! WE can not give up! WE can not allow the cronies to do this!
thanks again~ I am finished licking my wounds~
re#348..
that’s true what you say..HOWEVER we don’t live in a perfect or idealized fair world and we have to adapt new tactics to be in “politics” or else we get crushed..whether we like it or not we live in an imperfect system where we have to be political..and it would be better to have more young people and minorities in PUMA
MakowashiNatsuko:
Leaders like Cindy Shehan?
But my dear PUMA, you are far more eloquent than Shehan, I say, form the party & people will follow.
Even after Hillary becomes our President, I say, it is time…let’s let her be the last of the great Democrats & form something new and better. I love the Democratic Party but I guess I am waiting to see how “reform-able” it is!!
Perhaps we have more delegates who support Hillary than are willing to admit it. Seems to me that if they are threatened with being stripped of their vote, they might not be as forthright with where their support lies. Maybe continuing to encourage delegates to vote for Hillary, showing them by volume of letters from the voice of the people, is the way to go. Then–and most important–it is vital that we try to find some way to insure Hillary’s name be placed in nomination. I thought we had the right to be vocal, but perhaps the effort needs to be “underground.” This is war, but there are many ways to fight a war. A surprise attack could be very effective.
trish,
the National Enquirer has been sued less than the NYTimes. it is a gossip magazine, but it prints more truth than any newspaper in any town. It is not owned by anyone with an agenda to promote OR a candidate to foster, instead it exists to make money. Honest but trashy. I can respect it because it does not pretend to be more than it is. If more people/papers did this the world would be a better place.
again nite all~ [snowtiger sleep tight]
#360 ht1..
Like ed norton used to say in the old “honeymooners’ show…
“you’re a sweet kid”..
#333 jenniforhillary on 07.26.08 at 12:14 am, WROTE,
[[ I think not knowing him is better for his polls, because once you know him you hate him…. ]]
There is nothing there to know. Nothing to hate. Media is doing a good job hidding his resume from us. So the way I see it, the less we know… the longer this drags on… the more time each of us has to do a detailed web search on him.
So if you come across folks who need some convincing, keep a few WELL DOCUMENTED and RELIABLE MAINSTREAN resources handy. Like his voting record.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/key-votes/
366 kpw26
BINGO!
marie3548 // July 26, 2008 at 12:31 am
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
Drug Use Disclosed on Security Clearance Application?
http://factsfirstok.blogspot.com/
Actual Bar Complaint, as filed
Andrea Mitchell: Unprecedented Censorship by Obama
ALSO, did you see that Obama’s new jets, which are carrying the press corps all over the world, have been stripped of the US flag? Via Susan at No Quarter:
ok 1 more~ Jenni I agree with you~
it doesnt pretend to be anything but what it is~
*wink!
As much as I hate to leave, I’d better go to bed PUMAs! Night everyone!
Cosmeta…
“There is no there there”
Gertrude Stein
cosmeta…
let me better define that man…the more he opens his mouth the less people like him
and yes, under the facade lurks nothing except racial hatred, misogyny, and greed. GWB with a brain, which isn’t saying much but I am still rather concerned…
Freepuma-
I learned today that the media doesn’t care about representing who PUMAs are…I was protesting Dean in NC. I offered to give interviews to both the newspaper as well as the television stations…they declined to interview this 27 yr old and instead interviewed women older then I. It was quite obvious that they didn’t want to attatch a young face to this movement…sad
good youtube and website
http://comealongway.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/sen-obama-why-dont-they-want-you-now-new-video/
from geeklove
jersey…
Yes’m
#152 murphy
via JSND — want to help Cindy Sheehan against Nancy Pelosi?
SND ACTION26 : HELP CINDY SHEEHAN COMPLETE HER SIGNATURE DRIVE SO SHE CAN UNSEAT
PELOSI – IF YOU LIVE IN SAN FRAN, SIGN! IF NOT, DONATE A COUPLE OF BUCKS…
_____________________________________________________________
BACKGROUND: Cindy Sheehan. the gutsy anti-war Democrat challenging Nancy
Pelosi, must turn in 10,198 signatures by August 8th to get on the ballot.
She has 9,764. Can you help put her over the top…..either sign or donate to her
signature collection drive! $10 each from 100 people, or $5 each from 200 would
do the trick! If not, ask a friend in SF to sign…
From Cindy’s website at http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
…A $10 donation can help us secure 10 valid signatures. Support our signature
drive with a contribution. Click here to donate.
TOPIC: Superdelegates
Just to make a comment about bringing the Superdelegates back into Hillary’s camp.
We need to stay focused w/this task, fellow PUMAS, yet at the same time, know this.
Believe it or not, I feel very strongly that there will be a certain number of delegates who actually will make up their minds to back Hillary AT THE CONVENTION, as they listen to her speech and absorb everything they’ve been processing via PUMA and the media these last weeks.
So, do not worry your sweet Puma heads if the Superdelegate count can’t be figured out exactly prior to Convention.
((( “Carry on!” )))
DancesWithPumas#270,
From what I heard it was because they would not allow all the reporters to go along so there was no photo op for his ego to feed off of. I would like to put out if some one is really good with YouTube I thought a nice video with pictures of tails of planes with the American flag on them put to the music of God Bless America and then about every 15 seconds put in a picture of Obamas plane with out the flag and dunb in his pal Rev Wright and what he said about America.
Repeat, worth repeating:
What would you call Obama if he had half a brain?
Answer: Gifted
Unrelated-to-anything-topic
…sitting here hoping the Ex didn’t take the kids to see “Batman” tonight. I have heard it is unusually and unrelentingly violent, especially for a PG-13 movie. My brother emailed me about it to give me the “heads up,” & he sees everything! He said it is waay more violent than most movies he’s seen for quite a while…
we are the ones who will change the world and the time is now. one person can move a mountain if enough people stop and help.
oh, and piss off a group of women–the right group–and you are in a heap of trouble (this from my grandfather).
HEAP OF TROUBLE is what the DNC is in, because I am keeping my vote, my money, and my heart for Hillary or anyonebuthatman.
Perhaps the Pumas who will pinch their noses and reluctantly vote for BO (because they cannot in their worst nightmares vote for any Republican) should realize that BO is the Trojan horse of the Republicans to keep control of the WH. The machinations of Brazille to get BO designated nominee of the Democrats were evident long before the following article was written by Rosemary Regello. Read and weep.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BrazileRoveConnect.html
All efforts must be exerted to get Hillary to agree to be in nomination and to accept the nomination if she wins it “fairly and squarely”.
More power to PUMAS.
Night inu
I’m out of here too. Need to get up early. Night all. Keep feeding the PUMAS.
re#377 queen..
you are right!
HOWEVER when the MSM is covering mass demonstrations the cameras can’t block out all those young and minority faces out there in the crowd if the faces are interspersed correctly..that’s why efficient organization and leadership in planning a demonstration is critical.. besides as a matter of principle and inclusivity I’m sure we would love to have more young people and minorities in PUMA
Thanks, Dances
Sometimes I think I should not say what I am thinking. Always think someone else knows better. But the delegates and supers need to protect themselves in order to have a voice come August. Is there a way to petition for putting Hillary’s name in nomination? We need something solid for that.
BTW I mentioned names of those not attending in Denver being put on signs or banners. It would be great if we could contribute whatever we could afford to help with the trip as we request our names be included. Each person could contribute as they were able (even if only $1) and feel that their voice and presence would be with OUR PUMAS.
the national enquirer is a gossip magazine. they print the dirty laundry of posh people — but posh people have some pretty dirty laundry.
miq2xu, one of THE smartest bloggers on the intertubes had a great article tonight on the Edwards story. His point, and I agree completely, is not that we should dig around in the Edwards’ Family’s private lives, but that the timing of the leaks to the Enquirer about Edwards is RAWTHER peculiar. He posits that the Obama Campaign was behind the leak in order to kneecap Edwards back in February. AND that they did it again because they dont want him as a serious VP contender.
Again, no one here has anything but sympathy/empathy for E Edwards, and I havent heard anyone gloating with schadenfreude in this whole episode, if true. Anyway — miq2xu is ALWAYS worth the read.
http://myiq2xu.wordpress.com/
Friday’s prowls done, but not all faxes would send.
Nite nite, snowtiger..
Good video (geeklove)
and I agree, myiq2xu’s piece had an interesting pov (as usual).
#367 jenniforhillary
***************
Hey Folks, thought I’d stop in to say hello. Nothing thought provoking to offer. This has been an exhausting week.
I agree with Jennifer on the John Edwards story. Evenmoreso than the source of the story is that no media source (except Fox) is touching it. And, that’s not the usual case.
The media is like vultures…if it even hints of truth (or not) they will jump all over it. Not even the other gossip columns are talking about it. And, I believe it’s because Edwards was on nobama’s short list for VP. And, he was supposed to be nobama’s answer for the middle-class male vote.
It’s one story that I wouldn’t mind seeing go away…I feel for his wife and kids (even though the media was all over Hillary about monica).
IMO, the only reason mainstream media reports anything negative about nobama is to ‘appear’ balanced.
hillistheone #384 — the 14yo saw it earlier tonight and she said it was really pretty creepy. I guess the Joker as played by Heath Ledger is as scary and weird as they were saying.
aw jeez, hope I didnt ruin your night.
tho I’ve taken my kids to movies over their heads and they do 1 of 2 things.
1 they freak out and insist on leaving (master and commander) or
2 they have no idea what’s happening and enjoy the show at a lower level (lord of the rings)
kpw26
Good thinking, kp, but first let’s figure out how to help the ones who want to go, Get There!
It has been pitiful how hard I have tried to connect this week w/fellow PUMAS to come up with a plan for transportation to Denver. I cannot even book a flight back (I’m flying back), because I don’t know where I’m flying TO until the first half of the trip gets planned!
i.e., roadblocked…
Pitiful, just pitiful.
If there is a silver lining I guess it is that a little voice told me last week my plans will end up getting made “at the last minute,”…..
Still, I find it stressful to think about so I decided to stop thinking about it. Someone wants to go with me they know where to find me…
“It would be great if we could contribute whatever we could afford to help with the trip as we request our names be included. Each person could contribute as they were able (even if only $1) and feel that their voice and presence would be with OUR PUMAS.”
Nice idea and with or without the request or donation… you’ll all be there with us! I love the idea of representing by adding names to the signs.
#367 jenniforhillary (referencing the post)
SouthJerseyPuma – thanks for helping me reinforce our
“actionable” items…things that we can do that will help our voices be heard in a calm, rational way.
I believe Ricki is on target with all of this and knowing her personally, I believe in her strategy and her conviction that this is the way to go. Electability Watch – the more we see of BO, the more we learn about his
“Inelectability” (is that a word?)….good night all..thanks for your support and please – write the SD’s and remind them of their one and only role in the Convention and their duty to uphold their pledge.
murphy: I bet Ledger gets an oscar for it from what I’ve heard…wonder how it got a PG-13 rating, tho. And you know a lot of parents are going to let their 5-7 yr old boys go & see it.
I wouldn’t mind if it was on-par with Spiderman (which still has some pretty out-there stuff), but my bro said it was “nonstop” violence. He mentioned a bank scene & said it just continued on from there…
I would like to see it myself, but maybe I’ll rent it so I can fast-forward through anything that’s too creepy!
rec’d this interesting insight in email from K:
Replacing Hillary Clinton delegates reminds of union busting tactics. In
the early 80′, we voted to join a union where I worked.
The company refused to recognize the union, we went on strike, and they
promptly fired us (It was the Reagan years).
They replaced us with scabs, then held a decertification vote, allowing the
scabs they had hand picked to vote. The union was voted out. Sound
familiar?
This company had hired a law firm that specialized in union busting. I
wonder if the DNC is using their play book?
396 hillstheone
Didnt you email address to me at gmail to hook up with the other four you were trying to rendezvous with?
Hi Pumas,
the kids just called & I guess they went to see “Hancock” instead (Will Smith), I’m outta here to go & pick them up.
BBL…
Hi Dances,
One of the addy’s (007′s maybe) didn’t work. And alohapuma didn’t email you w/hers yet I guess.
And I emailed goanderson & didn’t hear back yesterday or today.
Quite possibly my best bet is hooking up w/alohapuma.
BRB…
thats good hillistheone — tell the ex to take them to kit kittredge next time — THE best movie of the year so far!
hills… goanderson is working on hooking all of you up via yahoo im (or chat)
TOPIC: Good Entertainment
P.S. This is still my favorite video, and I still love KT Tunstall!
http://powerofpuma.blogspot.com/2008/07/hold-on-this-ones-for-you-puma-party.html
Enjoy it if you haven’t seen it…
#360 hillstheone,
I am happy to hear a Puma is coming up to visit Canada, please do leave a Puma trail with fliers along the way!
I assume you will be travelling along the west coast?
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/blog/blog.aspx?id=2492
Berlin speech — contradictory estimates of crowd size. Locals said 20,000 not 200,000.
p.s. I want to see kit kittredge myself! Maybe we will look for it on vacation…
yournorhternneighbor: Yes, that’s right!
Sorry I need to run, ttfn & BBL…
hill
I sent you everything I had… no aloha…I’ll check 007′s email … I might have traucated it when I copied and pasted.
hillstheone
I thought adding a contribution along with one’s name might help some financially. I won’t be able to go but would be able to contribute toward someone carrying my name. Sorry you are having difficulty with your plans. Reality follows thought. Visualize yourself daily being at the convention. Add emotion to the visualization. Let no negative thought creep in while you are doing this and you will get there. I’ve done this before and it really works.
truncated, even
oh boy — it is REALLY good.
heartwarming without being smarmy.
one of those movies for kids that they just dont make anymore. I just love Julia Roberts for producing it.
and Abigail Breslin is just a phenomenal young actress.
I think the batman movie is creepier because of Heath Ledger’s death. That’s why I won’t see it.
Has anyone seen Momma Mia yet? I love Streep movies.
“Reality follows thought. Visualize yourself daily being at the convention. Add emotion to the visualization. ”
Some call that prayer…
Thoughts manifest… thought, breath, energy (e-motion)=The Word
Oh God, I’m starting to sound like a bottle of Dr Bronners peppermint liquid soap.
I guess you can call it whatever. I just know it works. Better yet, visualize Hillary accepting the nomination. See the date, August 2008, feel the emotion. But most of all believe it without one bit of doubt. Better than drinking a bottle of ine (hehehehe)
kpw26
just random thoughts leaking through my keyboard…
i’m followin’
Good to talk with you all. Getting late. Gotta go sleep so I can get up and start all over again. Life’s a lot of fun, isn’t it?? Good night Peace to all
“Berlin speech — contradictory estimates of crowd size. Locals said 20,000 not 200,000.”
I’ve done some photography… I wondered why they cropped to maybe 100 / 200 deep. If there were 200,000 they would have gotten a wider, and therefore, more representative shot.
hills…
007′s email is correct as she sent it and I passed it on
Thanks for the email Dances.
YIKES! THIS IS MY SECOND NIGHT ON . . YOU ARE ALL TOO FAST FOR ME!
#389 Kpw26-LOVED the sign representation idea! Coordinate through regions? I’m a teacher and start back that week. I would love to be there. It would be great to be given a name from my area that I would “sponsor” with a small danation perhaps?
Donated to Cindy Sheehan $25.00
Bye Bye Pelosi. We need someone “fresh” in your place.
#286Firefly
“All efforts must be extended to get Hillary to agree to be in nomination.” This concern has been in the back of my mind for weeks. . .particularly since I have family and friends that have said . .what if she doesn’t want it!”
#424 Rancho
Good to see you again!
I think the speed of blogging is the reason the blog designers decided to number the blogs… makes it easier to reference specific posts.
#427 DWP Thank you for recognizing me!
I feel obligated to read as much as I can so I get a feel for the direction of conversation. . . This is the first time I have ever blogged (with this site). You multi-taskers amaze me!
Thank you for your contribution to Cindy’s campaign.
We can’t do this without your help.
Peace,
Team Cindy
People before Politics
428 Rancho
How could I not recognize you after that wonderful post of yours last night?
Dances:
Thanks for checking on that address.
Did everyone watch Will Bower get interviewed by the CNN guy (online guy)? He was good but I wondered why he kept rocking. Maybe he was nervous, that happens sometimes…
Anyway he did a good job getting all the main points out there!
#407 hillstheone
TOPIC: Good Entertainment
P.S. This is still my favorite video, and I still love KT Tunstall!
http://powerofpuma.blogspot.com/2008/07/hold-on-this-ones-for-you-puma-party.html
I am with you on this video….always makes me happy and remember what this is all about.
{{{{{ Murphy }}}} Idea for the pre-convention meeting. Have a media set up so videos like this can be seen and SUNG to by us PUMAs while we are protesting.
Memories from the good old days of protesting against Viet Nam, MUSIC where the crowd can be a part of. Really brings people together than just the run of the mill chants of these days. I go to some union protests at the University were I work, and the chants suck after one minute. I guess I have visions of some sort of 4 foot screen, pumping out one of these videos with music and all of the PUMAs singing on and off key and having a great time. I am going to try to download some off of Youtube, upload them on an MP4 player, so if you guys think this is a good idea we can do it.
My 5 cents.
Back to Kpw26 #389 – If the regional coordinators can hook us up with names of people going to Denver from our areas, maybe “sponsoring” could be another method of support. ( I have already donated to the bus fund, but would like to do a little more!)
Murphy!! Are you still up?
Rancho
Where are you located? and do you have a ranch? and do you have horses? and can I ride one? (kidding)
http://powerofpuma.blogspot.com/2008/07/hold-on-this-ones-for-you-puma-party.html
Ooops 435
Does anyone know the title (Hold on?) and singer of this song?
The Song is Hold On – KT Tunstall
No ranch! . . I live in So Cal. (Rancho Cucamonga!)
Yes, there really is a Cucamonga! It was mentioned in an old Jack Benny skit. That dates me a bit to remember, but it WAS before my time!
How do you make those cute happy faces?
rancho — yep — that sounds like a smart approach. Especially since we have some amazingly organized and smart Pumas running our regions.
Have you joined your region yet?
If not — send an email to southwest, west, northeast, southeast, or midwest at pumapac.org.
if that is too confusing — just send an email to mamapumamass@aol.com and she’ll get you squared away.
#281 Amarissa
Hope the “handful of democrats who are protesting Obama’s presumptive nomination” the reporter refers to will soon outnumber the probama ranks.
Well, Dean was right about one thing…the Democratic party’s changed a lot in the last 30 years.
alright then — email west@pumapac.org to get in touch with your regional moderator.
While I’m waiting for the chocolate to cool…
I just want to say thank you to the NC protesters! It really made my day, especially after the sad news w/ Ms. Bartoshevich.
night all,
that IS a nice painting by Homer up top isnt it?
Tomorrow is another day,
be wonderful to each other!
Nite-nite, Murphy!
Wow! Murphy! You’re still up! And you wrote ME!
I have joined and submitted my email. ( I THINK 007 is closest to me and I believe she is going to Denver. I think she might be going with a group from what I can detect.)
That would be great to be linked up together with people in my area.
night murphy
Rancho, CA is actually part of teh southwest region…
they divided regions by population and… inlcude your zip code, otherwise they will nag you to near death!
#437 DancesWithPumas on 07.26.08 at 1:33 am
The Song is Hold On – KT Tunstall
Thanks Dances and good luck getting a ride on that horse.
TOPIC: SF Chronicle Reporter wrote me back
So this is interesting, yesterday I emailed the link for the story on the Rove – Donna Brazile connection to a bunch of msm. One was this woman journalist at the SF Chronicle (I just found this awesome article by her about Hillary!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/29/EDENVAGCM.DTL)
So anyway, tonight I have an email back from her but it is in shorthand.
I was asking if anyone might consider doing an investigative story on the above topic, here is what she wrote:
I would ..but I’ve not been invited to do any 1op to 1 a programs in the coming month… Christine
…anybody know what that means??
Anyway, it _was_ nice to get a reply from her.
Rancho…
how close are you to Los Angeles?
TOPIC: SF Chronicle
Also, maybe we should write her again w/a story topic or to the editor of the SF Chronicle since this reporter is definitely in Hillary’s corner…
#449DWP Depends on what part of Los Angeles . . with good traffic in the diamond lane, 45 min. to an hour.
OK~ i just saw this!! ~ Wis. Democrats oust delegate over McCain support.. dont know if it has been mentioned~
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_el_ge/delegate_dumped
she was one of our’s~
she said she still thinks Hillary is the best candidate! gee, she should keep her VOICE and VOICE it LOUD!!!
can we invite her to the pac? i wonder if she would accept? she should have keep quite till after the conv!!
Rancho
I ask because a group of So CA PUMAs are planning a get-together next weekend to meet and get to know each other, maybe strategize.
Dances / BillieJo
KT Tunstall’s CD, “Eye to the Telescope,” is excellent. Highly recommend.
Hold On isn’t on it, but you can get that on iTunes…it is hard to find a CD w/all good songs these days, so thought I’d mention ‘Telescope.’
TOPIC: San Francisco PUMAS?
Any SF PUMAS on tonight?
Looks like Ms. Craft has a radio talk show sometimes! And is a lawyer.. You could call her show & talk PUMA and probably get a sympathetic ear!!
goanderson is close to SFO
DWP
Drat! I’m leaving for Yellowstone on Monday, for 11 days!
I am taking a lap top and will hope for the best with prowls . . . we’ll see. Are you responsible for coordinating the get together?
(This is my last shot at a vacation before I start back at school. It’s been planned for months.)
#454 hillstheone on 07.26.08 at 1:44 am
Dances / BillieJo
KT Tunstall’s CD, “Eye to the Telescope,” is excellent. Highly recommend.
Hold On isn’t on it, but you can get that on iTunes…it is hard to find a CD w/all good songs these days, so thought I’d mention ‘Telescope.’
Thanks for the tip I will check it out. I have lots of resources using a PC and knowing how to use the internet.
Dances:
Maybe goanderson can check out that link above & see if it’s a station she can call into one night! Be cool to see what this Christine person is all about. A good writer & seems very perceptive of everything Hillary was / is up against…
Murphy:
Hey I did not realize that painting was by Homer, I have this one hanging in my bedroom:
http://arthousereproductions.com/girl-in-a-hammock-p-16527.html
I like Maxfield Parrish, too. I wonder if there are any good galleries in Denver. Probably are, but I doubt we’ll be anywhere near them!!
I guess we will be making our own “artwork” while we’re there…maybe we can form a human chain that looks like a big PUMA from the sky, LOL…
how can a “presumptive”dem consider a rep~ vp?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080725/pl_politico/12059;_ylt=Aobx_.3xfIMLYxPOX8VrpIBh24cA
Obama veep team floats Republican name ? wth?
DWP
If you are going to Los Angeles next weekend, or know someone who is, could you share my “thought” with them?
457 Rancho
DWP
Drat! I’m leaving for Yellowstone on Monday, for 11 days! I am taking a lap top and will hope for the best with prowls . . . we’ll see. Are you responsible for coordinating the get together?”
Yeah Drats!! Having to spend 11 days in Yellowstone…
No, I’m not coordinating it, I received a
“Puma Broadcast” about it in my email from the southwest region moderator.
Hey Dances, since you are still up, are you going to add Roxyincali, freepuma, alohapuma and greenfun to the contact emails of us Bay Area PUMAs?
Amarissa 189
Here’s what I just submitted at that story about McAuliffe and VP:
h t t p : / / latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/mcauliffe-cli-1.html
Hillary has stated that she does NOT want to be VP. She would only take it if requested as a favor by the party.
Why should she give up her own Senate career to iron Obama’s shirt for eight years! The years between 60-68.
Someone else would take her NY Senate seat. When she was free again, at age 68, would you expect her to bump off that person (if a Democrat)?
Any true friend would try to get someone else to take the VP job, not Hillary.
Rancho
Your earlier question: the smiley faces
smile= colon and right paren (no spaces between)
wink- semi colon ; and right paren )
464 BillieJo
If they send to my gmail … does everyone want them shared? and why not do it through Murphy’s moderator?
Is this for your travel arrangements to Denver?
Sure… as long as everyone sends their email addys to me at gmail
pumaresponders: Great story & comment!
I liked this one, too:
“McAuliffe and other Hillary Clinton supporters know she shouldn’t be on that sinking ticket. He lost major support in four battleground states (MI, CO, OH, etc.). It seems like people can’t remove themselves fast enough from his short list. Hillary is right to stay away from that loser.”
Yeah!
468 Rancho
Congratulations!!
Now you know everything there is to know about blogging… all the important stuff anyway!
#465 pumaresponders
I hope Terry is not cheating on her It would kill me to find out about another traitor! especially him whom I love! Now, I don’t know why I have been getting this funny feeling that McCain will ask Hill to be his VP… anybody else here think that?
#467 DancesWithPumas
Sorry, I haven’t caught up on all the posts today and when I saw your email I thought that was a group thing. I guess goandersen asked for them. I wasn’t sure why you sent the email, so we can cancel my idea unless we want to email as a group in the future.
It would be fun to all meet up there tho’.
BillieJo & Dances:
alohapuma is in Oregon and so am I, but if you’re going to put a list of OR & CA together by all means, include me too!
rofl
I need to work on all those abbreviations, too!
Good night PUMAs, sweet dreams.
I’m beat & headed for the Lion’s Den!
Night-nite, everyone..
#472 Amarissa
My brother in law said the same thing re. McCain and Hillary, just today!
Hey youse…
if all y’all send me your email addresses I will compile and send teh list out to those on the list BUT,
the addresses must come from those who wnat to be on the list, and they must know that all of you are going to share the list with each other.
So, bring them on… my name here at geeee male
Goodnight Billie Jo, also I liked your idea for music at the Convention.
zzzz… see everyone tomorrow
#478 Rancho
You know, I am not a Rep but somehow that combination wouldn’t be so bad because they like each other (or so it’s said). If that happened, they would erase O from the map!
#382 gay guy
Can’t wait to see that video!
Hillary is a Democrat. She knows she would look desparate switching sides to be McCain’s VP. She’s better off as NY Senator, and 2012 is right around the corner.
DWP Clarification, please. What are the lists for? Are they for both northern and southern Ca?
Oy… this page is tiring to translate. Anyone speak spanish?
http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=democratas&message.id=50048
Clearly there are some PUMAs here.
McCain/Hillary ticket is intriguing but the conservative right is finally starting to warm back up to the idea of McCain. Even J. Dobson is starting to recant in light of the possibility of an obamanation. Putting Hillary on the ticket would probably blow that back out of the water. Don’t know if he can afford it.
#483 DancesWithPumas
I know but if I were her, I wouldn’t be happy being a D right now! I mean let’s face it, the things they have done to the C family is unforgivable, don’t you think? I would consider it or go Independent. I am so mad at the Party, can you imagine her and Bill?
484 Rancho
DWP Clarification, please. What are the lists for? Are they for both northern and southern Ca?
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A few people were trying to communicate iwth each but they didnt a=want to publish their email addresses here, publically. I volunteered to collect their names and distribute them to each of teh four. They’re trying to arrange a meeting place so they can all fly ot Denver together… just more fun that way.
This has nothing to do with the regions and their lists and broadcasts. Just a small favor to them, nothing else.
#481Amarissa
#483 DWP
I argued DWP’s point with him. Even tho McCain and Hillary are friends and would work well together, she’s a party gal through and through, and I think she will be viewed as a dominant leader of the party in the Senate.
#485 IndyPUMA
copy the text you want translated and paste it here:
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt
You’ll get a translation that is rough and sometimes out of order but it’s usually understandable.
487 Amarissa
Thank you for that insight. I totally missed it from that angle. That would be sweet revenge… AND she’d probably turn the Republican Party into something closer to the “used to be” Democratic Party, or at least be a good influence on them.
What they did to Bill and Hillary is sinful, lower than low.
And now, the obotpods are complaining (loudly) that Hillary isn’t campaigning hard enough for Oblah. Imagine??
#489 Rancho
I hope you are right! I chiver just thinking O wins and she is under him! Maybe I’m too proud but I couldn’t stand taking orders from that stupid fascist fool!
POR FAVOR AMIGOS DEMOCRATAS, DEMOS 5.00 PARA ANULAR LA DEUDA DE HILLARY CLINTON, ADEMAS, ELLA ESTARIA LIBERADA DEL MACHISTA DE OBAMA Y DEL PARTIDO DEMOCRATA.
ARRIBA HILLARY CLINTON!
Please fellow democrats let’s give 5 dollars to retire the debt of Hillary Clinton. Anyways she will be free of the chauvinistic obama and democratic party
#485 IndyPUMA
This particular text is a lengthy list of flip-flops.
#493 NYModerate
De donde eres?
Rancho
“and I think she will be viewed as a dominant leader of the party in the Senate.”
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True.
Who was the idiot who said, as Hillary returned to the Senate: “She isn’t just Bill’s wife anymore!”
My God… she was already a US Senator!! These boys are more out of touch than we give them credit for. Ugh.
I asked 493 where she was from because she wrote in spanish
I come from the hot and muggy New York City.
#485 IndyPUMA
wait I will check it out. Remember I am Cuban in Puerto Rico?
#489 Amarissa
These last few months have allowed me to see a side of Hillary that I never new existed. She has grown through this process of rejection and humiliation to be even MORE of a brilliant LEADER. I highly respect her 18 million more of us I know feel the same way “Can’t put baby in a corner! “. .Dirty Dancing. I sincerely believe we haven’t seen the best of her yet, no matter what happens in August or November!
#347 Knoxville Puma on 07.26.08 at 12:19 am, WROTE TO,
#211 cosmeta
[[ Thank you for the informative perspective on party rules. I’m not sure I agree with you, though, for two reasons.
First, our rights are to some degree inherent. Parties and primaries may not be in the constitution, but our system of representative government in practice DOES work through a party system, which has largely become a two-party system. Our party has primaries and caucuses for the purpose of representing us. Not only is our right to be represented inherent, it’s implicit in the very fact that they ask us to go and vote or stand to be counted.
Second, it’s not politically expedient for the party to blow us off. They don’t want to represent us well, but they want us to vote for them. Is that it?]]
I actually agree with you and as a matter of democratic principle. If I did not, I would not be here. Yet I do know that *legally* (and according to party rules and bylaws), the law was not on her side. She would have been so much better off had she stuck to, my vote is for Hillary.
Then again, I might be talking out of turn here because I missed most of yesterday’s blog reading so I did not read the article about the ruling; and am missing the details on the *exact* wording.
Will try to find it so I can be better informed….
Thanks for standing up for what you believe.
Your friend in spirit,
Cosmeta
Targeting these spanish speaking message boards wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
Too bad when it comes to writing in Spanish I have some trouble.
#485 IndyPUMA
Ok, they are saying they are very happy because Hill’s debt is almost paid (ok maybe she can pay mine now? LOL this is me speaking now)
the other things they are saying is that O is a big flip flopper and they mention examples of this (which we all know). They also ask people to keep on donating to her debt and mention that O and his people have not helped her.
I’m also in the sf bay area. You can add me… also have mail w/G.
LandiPuma
send you email addy to me …
Now, this puma is going to slink into the puma den and take a very long cat nap.
Night all. See you soon. Thanks for the fun and informative company!
Go PUMA!!
#502 NYModerate
Don’t worry, those that are speaking know both languages (I am sure English better than Spanish by the way they write). They have their own group and are helping Hill. They even mention “No Deal” so they are informed.
Me Too. Night DWP. Night Amarissa. Night all!
That’s cool guys. Yeah, I was using Google translator.
I did searches on dogpile.com for “Just Say No Deal” in different languages… so I threw a page up here for others to translate.
I noticed the flip flops, but was looking for a way to make friends with some international potential PUMAs… but without having to setup an account on that site.
Didn’t have too much luck with Dutch. lol
G’nite, folks.
#500 Rancho
I feel exactly the same way. I admire her more each day! She has so much class! She is strong but caring, she is intelligent and yet humble and she is a great politician but one who fights to really make the US a fair place for all! That is why I cannot forgive those who called her and Bill racists!
Hillstheone I have the original Archives from the City Edition but i have tons more about 35 pages of the wholeBamboosal
If you read what i have you would faint
Night all! I am also calling it a night (morning?)
Maybe when we wake up there will be a miracle happening like O quitting! wouldn’t that be great?
Wow, did you see Glen Beck tonight?
I’ve watched him the last three nights, and I swear he is a PUMA. He’s worth watching, he echoed our thoughts on Obamas ruler of the world tour.
Believe me there is only one way and thats to get Hillary in. Because Obama is Rove and Brazils brain child .This wgole election have been a play for the people of America to watch and believe in
Does anybody know where we can get Nobama bumper stickers?
No but i have read his stuff
#440 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 07.26.08 at 1:35 am
#281 Amarissa
Hope the “handful of democrats who are protesting Obama’s presumptive nomination” the reporter refers to will soon outnumber the probama ranks.
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Hm. Maybe that reporter needs some attention….
Did we get the hotel rooms the other day?
no i don’t or maybe if you go to the Nobama site they might have them
Do we have a flyer with reasons not to support Obama?
Okay… just read the article on Debra
It appears that another Hillary delegate has replaced her … so at least Hillary still has a vote.
“After booting Bartoshevich, the administrative committee appointed Marilyn Nemeth to take her spot as a Clinton delegate. ”
http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=132045
Partial Audio of the Conference Call
http://wispolitics.com/1006/080725dpwcall.mp3
She was reprimanded for using the term, “democrat” party instead of saying democratic party… and THAT kind of symantec(s) is over the top. It was just the way the lady talked. I mean… gosh, we all make mistakes in speech…so to say she was a republican and mimicing Rush Limbaugh is assinine.
IMO
Note: To avoid an error prompt, wait 20 seconds after you’ve finished typing before you hit the SUBMIT BUTTON. Apparently there has been a time-delay invoked either by the program itself or by a moderator of the program. I doubt that its by the Server.
I would say so. He needs letters of praise
Is that Nobama.com?
Do you have Glen Becks web site or e-mail addy?
I leave this website for a second and the next thing I know there are 500-1000 posts…wow
I think we should check out Tom Abrahams site and keep responding to his articles, he has one about the Obama trip that could use some more PUMA posts. If we keep commenting, he might keep writing about us?? right???
Try it
and i will look for Becks addy
Let me go see if I can find it, I’ve wanted to comment on his shows. Today’s was great! bye for a moment, be back soon
#517 pumaresponders
Will check back tomorrow to see your ideas….
For now I’m going to try to catch a nap before daybreak. LOTS to accomplish tomorrow.
Good night to all!
Go to http://www.glennbeck.com he has all kinds of stuff against Obama in there. He will listen to us i’m sure
We need to send him some good letters and good videos he would love them
My link is not red because i had clicked on it before sorry. Hope you can read it # 530 i feel he is on our side all the way
Ok night all sleeping (((PUMAS))) and hugs Murphy you are the greatest
This guy deserves some thank yous.
http://lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080726/OPINION/807260316/1076/OPINION01
Hillary fans, don’t give up White House hopes just yet
By Jesse W. Brodey • July 26, 2008
Don’t count Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton out of the presidential race. Sen. Barack Obama, the “hopeful” Democratic presidential nominee, may talk himself out of the nomination
If you want to see glenbeck radio its
http://www.glenbeck.com
Notice the TV website is with two nn’s in his name
http://www.glennbeck/
he does have lots of good stuff there
sorry, http://www.glennbeck.com/
Hey all!
Sorry it’s so late and I wasn’t around today. Had a lot to do, then hit the gym, then a date. You know how it is. Anyway, saw this in Ricki’s EW today.
ANY NY PUMAS?! Lunch with Hill? 250 bucks. I wish I had the dough.
WELCOME HOME Dear friend,
If you’ve got $250 (or more) left in your pockets after what the GOP has done to this country, please join us to give Senator Hillary Clinton a rousing Welcome Home and Job Well Done! Monies raised will go to pay down her campaign debt – especially the small vendors whom she is determined to get paid. It’s been a long and difficult campaign for all of us, but she’s been a remarkable trooper, every step of the way – never faltering, never getting discouraged, never losing her composure and her wonderful smile. She would love to see you to thank you, in person, for your great faith in her, your support, and for your hard work.
Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 1 p.m. The home of Liz Robbins and Doug Johnson 13 Baiting Hollow Rd East Hampton, New York
RSVP online at http://www.hillaryclinton.com/easthampton
Uhm..if anyone wants to sponsor me, I could pick you up in my convertible and we could cruise out to the Hamptons. (Hey, it’s worth a shot, right?!)
K, going back to work.
Puma:Vigilant, Fearless, Potent!
BTW: I WAS SO PISSED at the Donna Brazille and Howard Dean responses today! I really practically bit my tongue OFF in responding without just outright cursing them out.
#510 sandipuma
What did you mean by the whole archive of the city edition. Is there more on the Brazile/Rove connection somewhere?
BBC are saying that access to the press has been restricted by BO.
also
“The British Goverment are concerned they do not want to be more favourable to one candidate over the other, John McCain”
Contact Pumatize and post comments at
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Your Local Guardian – group of newspapers covering South West London and Surrey including Epsom, Hounslow, Kingston, Richmond, Staines, Streatham Sutton, Wandsworth and Wimbledon.
thanks Sandipuma and Amarissa
Also contact
upallnight@bbc.co.uk (don’t spam – write individual letters)
messages@skynews.co.uk
http://www.wrx.zen.co.uk/britnews.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4969804.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_4030000/newsid_4032600/4032695.stm
American Political BBC Correspondent just called him “presumptous”
Says this could backfire on Obama.
Good morning,
Off to work, have a good day Pumas. I had Hannity on last night didn’t see all of it but what I did see they were riping no name apart and refered to his trip as his European vacation! I am upset about what happened in WI,the gall!
I, too, am disgusted at the delegate stripping. I wrote a letter to the Wisconsin comittee leader, as per the EW, but apparently they don’t care.
Kerriwyn at aol.com
THIS right here, is why WE PUMA’s exist! And why, regardless of the outcome, I’m sure we will continue to fight well through the new year and forward. Corruption does not go away overnight and indeed, it is always darkest before the dawn. I shudder to think it, but I have a feeling we are far from having seen that darkest hour. :/
I thank the gods for my fellow PUMA’s though and find comfort in the comraderie of so many varied individuals, all over this planet who are willing to stand up and FIGHT for the right to be free.
NY PUMA’s met for the first time this week (Jay’s group) and had a great time passing out flyers and getting out our message. We’ve already made a date to meet up on Tuesday to continue our efforts and plan on having a weekly meet up through to the convention. If you’re in the area (Manhattan) and wanna lend a hand get at me and I’ll put you in our detail.
I’m off to sleep now. Night/Morning Pac.
good morning… Off to work in my new pumapac shirt. The Hillary pin on my straw hat gets a lot of attention. I can’t wait for the reaction to the shirt. Have a productive day everyone.
hi guys
hi guys
Good morning, did I miss anything last night?
i was just wondering abt the viral email thing, since there was a concern abt pumas in the US who do not have access to internet and instead of doing like 50 reasons not to vote for Obama isn’t it possible to do 50 reasons to vote for hillary at the convention so it doesn’t have a negative tone and instead of viral email send a plane out in each state you know like some companies do and then to put the reasons using those smoke/air writing things that look like clouds and then write in the sky a reason per state this would create a lot of awareness. obviously the reason would have to be brief and summarised and puma in capital letters in the bottom this message obviously has to be written in the sky at places where it can be seen most in each state. Just a thought this would create a lot of awareness especially if it was all done at the same time
not sure if its possible but it would create visibility and awareness and get people talking at least and a lot of people would be able to see it and if it was all done at the same time in each state and also all the positives abt why hillary needs to get the nomination and the convention. since this is really what its all abt
and also abt the bitter comments i also wanted to know if it would be possible to donate to some worthy causes through Puma like the family of the mom that committed suicide over the whole home loan thing so that people could see that pumas are taking positive constructive action and talking solutions, not problems or empty sayings(hope, change etc). Just wanted to know and how people overseas like us could donate to these causes. I mean this would be continueing what Hillary stood and still stands for – helping the grassroots people as well
PUMAs pounce on Dean in North Carolina!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/pumas-pounce-on-dean-in-nc/
Article including PUMA news from Austin Texas, requiring comments
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/07/26/0726texdems.html
Also please comment on British newspapers, tv news and websites all day today while NObama is in England.
PUMA news in the Netherlands
http://poligazette.com/2008/07/24/could-obamas-history-be-made-up/
send a letter for publication
letters@guardian.co.uk
comment here
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4405506.ece
and here
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/will-obamas-rockstar-moment-in-berlin-backfire-877802.html
and here
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-europe-today-tomorrow-america-877810.html
#550 chrissieD, your compassion is outstanding, but, for PUMA to donate to any single cause is not the way for us to go right now. We need to continue with what we are doing now, we need to get Hillary nominated and into the White House where she can bring about REAL change and help the families that are hurting.
Good morning,
Post # 282
You made my morning. LOL!! I spilled my coffee.
Thanks for the laugh.
I am off to work. I will check back in later.
Have a good PUMAs.
#14 dances w/Pumas I will say that I liked two items on his demonstrtation agenda: Global Warming and No Borders.
I like the idea of people being allowed to live whereever they chose, that would be one way of yaying or naying governments.
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I absolutely did not like the idea of open borders. We should have complete control over our borders. This is one of Bush’s ideas that Lou Dobbs rails against all the time. Open borders from Canada thru Mexico. Absolutely not! I want to know who is coming into this country.
#44 Maxgrader Although I feel sorry for Edwards’ wife and family, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. He talked down to Hillary and lied about not supporting either candidate; yet when Hillary won W VA, he immediately came out and endorsed Obama, thus stealing Clinton’s thunder. Furthermore, godforbid it was Bill Clinton, we would still be hearing all about it. Have you noticed all the Obama backers have a curse against them? What goes around comes around! Call me bitter! Yes I am.
Ladyhawkke, I have noticed that too. Just one more reason to shy from him like the plague.
Also, in regards to John Edwards, he has made his bed and I am GLAD that he has been outed for being a liar and a bad husband. One more reason his vote for that man is meaningless, or meaningful depending on how you view it.
I’m waiting for Hillary’s comeback on7/27 according to this astrologer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42yXpkH7RRQ
#282 Vonay That is the funniest thing I’ve heard. Made my morning!
#285 I printed out that picture a month ago and have it framed! Keeps me inspirational.
From Ricki Lieberman:
AND FINALLY,
GOOD NEWS! Mary deBree writes: “I have just recently taken a job with the Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy Committee here in NYC and am back and working on getting women elected to office!” The ERLC annual lunch is on October 6 and will feature Senator Clinton, Judith Hope and Gov. Patterson. FOr more information and to purchase your ticket(s), please go to: http://www.eleanorslegacy.com/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screenKey=cmpEvents
AND FINALLY, FINALLY,
HRC DELEGATE HELP DESK: to clarify – dial 703- 469-2008 press ’1′ and you will be prompted to enter the actual extension: 1075
For those who’d like an overview of the security measures for the Denvor convention.
http://www.denvergov.org/Default.aspx?alias=www.denvergov.org/dnc2008
Denver Provides Budget Overview For Security Equipment
Transparency Reaffirms Denver’s
Commitment to Free Speech & Public Safety
“For officers that will be involved in crowd management, the training focuses on how to facilitate the safe movement of crowds throughout downtown,” explained Denver Police Chief Gerald Whitman. “The emphasis is not on arresting people, but on gaining voluntary compliance with requests that enable everyone to safely exercise their First Amendment rights. Our police officers have always had – and continue to have – a range of options available to them when responding to unlawful activities, whether during large events or normal daily life. The preference is always to gain voluntary compliance with requests that aim to ensure public safety and everyone’s ability to safely exercise their First Amendment rights.”
hi all good to be back. Mox left a couple items at Guardian that I think were good. This Edwards thing puts him in same catagory of others standing for Obama. That would make a great ad or commercial. Farrakhan,Wright,Ayers,Gaddafi,(spelling?)New black panthers(his new militia?)Rezko,Rahidini,Hammas,Carter,Edwards?
go_Ohio_Lady hi thanks thats so sweet. yes i agree that the US pumas have to put their efforts into getting hillary. i just wanted to know for international pumas since we not allowed by law to donate to political campaigns in the US i tried to do this at hillary’s site but u have to enter a zip code and it mentions somewhere that there restrictions on foreign donors. anyways just wondering
For those who asked on the blog recently, what was Hillary up to these days. She’s been busy.
http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/index.cfm
#564 ChrissieD See if you can use my zip code (FL) 32164
ok
i’m gonna go enable my bank account to do donations to US
on the link above Guardian is showing Obama trying to unite texans. Do we have Texans on that can tell them no we wont?? It is easy to post.
thanks
probably only will go through in a days time since it takes 24 hrs to be approved from here in South Africa
#569 jane-pa Yes, tell them.
well Mox did:) left 2 there.Can we use somehow this agenda of Hillarys compared to Obama gave a speech than went to elite gym?
Also post here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/18/openthread
Problem with point number 5 though it says that in order to make contributions you have to:
5. I am not a foreign national who lacks permanent resident status in the United States.
Gosh why is hillary so ethical LOL. guess its one of the things we all love abt her
otherwise its fraud i think
I heard on tv just few mins. ago (dont know what channel) that Obama got what he wanted and its the pic. of his statehood. Can we do ad if he does with his other faces? Nose in air, swagger chewing gum with mouth open,finger on cheek and his looks at Hillary?We missed a point he had. In Germany and Colorado I think where he had 70,000 .He gives publicized rock concerts they said and free beer in Germany and 2 bands. It gets great crowd they are feeling good and there he is the messiah bringing in big crowds.Do we have time to do something like that for Hillary and make delegates take a second look with a hugh crowd?
Good Morning Pumas,
Our ‘Last Stand’ Email initiative to Superdelegates was updated this morning with a listing of Fresh Supers. So please be sure to stop by and resend your emails.
Have a great morning!
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/136450-democrats-independents-against.html
jane-pa this is a copy of a previous post of mine its in response to your post as well, since there was a concern abt pumas in the US who do not have access to internet and instead of doing like 50 reasons not to vote for Obama isn’t it possible to do 50 reasons to vote for hillary at the convention so it doesn’t have a negative tone and instead of viral email or a rock concert LOL or maybe to do all three things if it is possible send a plane out in each state you know like some companies do and then to put the reasons using those smoke/air writing things that look like clouds and then write in the sky a reason per state this would create a lot of awareness. obviously the reason would have to be brief and summarised and puma in capital letters in the bottom this message obviously has to be written in the sky at places where it can be seen most in each state. Just a thought this would create a lot of awareness especially if it was all done at the same time
#565 TrishFromCanada I have a problem with the bill she introduced to help immigrant families. Also, with the bills co-sponsors who are promoting illegal Cubans coming into the US, mainly thru Miami and the Keys. “Honda and Clinton were joined by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX), and Raul Grijalva (D-AZ), and Henry Cuellar (D-TX) as the bill’s original co-sponsors. Honda said the importance of this bill is underscored by its bipartisan nature.” I’m from Miami and I despise Ros-Lehtinen and her husband. She and the Mas family, along with Jose and Lincoln Diaz-Balart ruined Miami. Because of our government’s pandering to the Cubans/Mexicans, etc. for the Hispanic vote, no one speaks English and they demand and expect services. Lots of illegals there and that is why I had to leave. The bill makes no mention of illegals but you can bet it helps them. The “wet food-dry foot” policy that Bill Clinton signed is a disaster. Clinton wanted to lift the embargo and the Cubans went nuts, so he passed a bad bill. Immediately, Castro emptied his jails and there were thousands of rafts coming to Miami from Cuba. I know I’m venting but illegal immigration is a big problem. Nancy Pelosi is being blamed for the sanctuary city in SF and the killing of those innocent men by an illegal living there.
http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=301316&&
maybe have the concert, invite all the poor people in the area and instead of handing out free beer can have a soup kitchen that way one is doing something constructive for the poor
just a thought
HILLARY predicted:
http://jon-stevens.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Jon-stevens.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvhe8vAtLvs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4rkTkVaW0I&feature=related nostradamus
Murphy, goanderson – as I am still up to only #180 on this thread and desperately attempting to catch up. But I did wish to comment on both your desire or have ridden motorcycles. A big (((((((to both)))) of you! I’ve been riding since I was eighteen. Although I tell folks I’m 29 (and they don’t believe anymore lol) I was born in ’55. A female biker was a rarity in those days. The dealership where I purchase my first bike took a picture as I was their first female to buy a bike.
One of my favorite stories from the late seventies where I was in a parking lot getting the helmet on, etc. where this guy begins to sauntered as if he was trying to look ‘manly’ and said to me “Girls are not supposed to ride motorcycles.” Well, not ever like being stereotyped since I was a kid and not easily taking to remarks such as that I responded; “Yeah? Well show me the law that states that!” Without a response he ‘sauntered’ away.
Murphy, I wish I knew you when I lived in Peabody, I would have help you learn to ride…..although that was quite a few years back when I lived there…:-)
Good morning everyone, I slept in late today, gotta catch up on here I was gone all nite too.
cjv — maybe I’ll challenge myself for my 40th birthday to learn how to ride.
yikes!
Today is a new day —
Morning basketball post up — flyers today!
Take it upstairs!
the thing i feel abt illegal immigration since we have a lot of refugees in south africa as well is that these poor people cannot help for the situation they are in. refugees/ illegal immigrants are wonderful people just like you and me and in most cases they escaping a terrible situation in their home country. what i do have a problem with though is the leaders in our countries that are responsible for condoning and not doing anything abt dictators/ dictators in the making as well and as a result people are forced to flee their home countries and come to others as illegal immigrants or refuggees so I say leaders of the world need to start remedying situations in countries (condemning these dictators) so that that people wouldn’t feel compelled to escape their home countries. i mean its so sad.
neways thats just my opinion
and also not through wars since i don’t believe in them. thats why i was for hillary since i believe she has excellent negotiation skills and would come up with viable solutions to remedy these situations in these countries without war or bloodshed. anyways thats just my opinion
Every time we don’t STAND and be counted, we condone by not speaking out!!! There comes a time in each person’s life when you must either speak up against the evils that you see, or by your silence have acquiesed to those evils. This is one of those times!!! The DNC and others like that have not taken my voice and do not own my vote. I will STAND!!!!
It is not a crazy idea for HILLARY to run @ MCCAIN
that would be A REAL CHANGE
it never have happened in USA´s history(I think)
but if you look at the way the europeans goverment are formed….
sometimes they form coalition goverments
and it works pretty good
#290 jenniforhillary
As far as Nat’l Enquirer goes, a lot of people say it is nothing but trash and gossip. Unfortunately, I didn’t want to believe the story about Edwards back in October of 2007 and I was thinking and wondering when this would be big news and resurface “cause it was just a little blurb on the page when I read it. I never repeated what I read to anyone. And sure enough the mother of his love child appears in the news once again. It is such a shame because I’m sure Elizabeth encouraged John to continue campaigning for the Presidency as sick as she was. I read where her cancer was out of remission just this past March. Elizabeth is a wonderful lady and Mother. God bless them all.
Dick M on H&C tonight says Obama is loosing Hillary’s over 40 women. We are the key to his feet of clay.
Dick, Dick, Dick, Dick,.. Oh Dick
(I just like to say it. LOL.)
We are way ahead of you honey.
Now I have to paint a door.
PUMAS keep hunting!
I`m out!
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