PATROLING BARNEGAT
by: Walt Whitman (1819-1892)
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ILD, wild the storm, and the sea high running,- Steady the roar of the gale, with incessant undertone muttering,
- Shouts of demoniac laughter fitfully piercing and pealing,
- Waves, air, midnight, their savagest trinity lashing,
- Out in the shadows there milk-white combs careering,
- On beachy slush and sand spirts of snow fierce slanting,
- Where through the murk the easterly death-wind breasting,
- Through cutting swirl and spray watchful and firm advancing,
- (That in the distance! is that a wreck? is the red signal flaring?)
- Slush and sand of the beach tireless till daylight wending,
- Steadily, slowly, through hoarse roar never remitting,
- Along the midnight edge by those milk-white combs careering,
- A group of dim, weird forms, struggling, the night confronting,
- That savage trinity warily watching.
592 comments ↓
anti is numero uno!
what a night!
omg i almost made the #1 spot
Re: More shady connections
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Obama’s Acorn: A Leftist Social Reform Group. Part II »
ACORN has now been connected to money laundering, misuse of taxpayer funds, embezzlement, voter fraud, wage and labor violations and safety complaints
oh well ill take the bronze whats up pumas
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
The WORM Turns on Obama »
It’s clear that Obama’s Orwellian campaign is airbrushing the fairy tale for popular consumption. Thing is, most voters see through “tall tales.”
repost from downstairs:
I have a question: do they actually think they are going to lock us all in all day every day in a cage….will we be able to leave and come back on our own accord? I mean really, they cant just pen us up and make us stay the whole day right? cuz this crazy Italian will NOT be caged up all day lol
723 MountainSong
So how do u keep from being discouraged?
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Personally, I don’t want to wake to a Oblahma nightmare on Nov 5 thinking… I coulda, shoulda, if only.
I’m just doing the best I can on any given day to prevent that nightmare. I can live with that.
Success isn’t how many times you get knocked down, it’s that you keep getting up, especially when you’re getting up to stand a righteous cause.
Our Group in Charlotte was Quite well organized with t-shirts and signs. When Dean arrived we began chanting “PUMA!” Apparently it got to him, as he had to stop his speech to address us. We stated that we wanted Hillary in nomination. All he would say is that “she will be in roll call, if she expresses that she wants to be”…pretty shady answer. So we respected the rest of his speech but you could easily tell we irked him!
Re Debra Bartoshevich:
The Democratic Party today has told all Democrats that dissent will not be permitted, that all Democrats must fall sheepishly in line behind the party leadership, that we will only be represented by them if we want what they want us to want and do what they want us to do.
The Democratic Party today has declared that they want to strip us of yet another right as citizens. No one is allowed to speak as a stalwart Democrat by opposing the party’s leadership. We have to shut up and fall in line.
At the beginning of June, when Murphy launched Puma PAC, I was among the very first to join.
I remember in the first days that there was intense debate among Pumas about whether or not voting for John McCain was a valid form of protest. I thought, “Of course, it is.”
There were others who said that they would vote for McCain because he is more moderate and more qualified than Barack Obama, and were challenged for taking that position because it would mean that they were not true Democrats. I thought, “Of course we’re true Democrats. Mindless sheep vote the party line. True Democrats expect - no demand - that their leaders uphold core democratic principles and represent them and their interests or step aside for leaders who will.”
What is the purpose of having a convention at which delegates select the party’s nominee if the outcome has been predetermined and any delegate who refuses to fall in line with the predetermined selection is denied access to the convention?
We no longer have a democratic Democratic Party.
Our choice is either to fight - revolution style - until every last one of those failed pseudo-leaders is out of power over the Democratic Party, or find leaders who will help us replace the undemocratic Democratic Party.
(Another repost from downstairs)
Despite evidence to the contrary (#10), I’m so angry that I can’t speak. I’m f&*king angry. (<-sorry)
No. This can’t be. The painfully stupid Fowler-Germond letter was one thing, but this. No.
We’re in a war, ladies and gentlemen. We vote Democrat election cycle after election cycle because it was the closest we could come to being represented in this joke of a representative democracy.
Make no mistake about it. We fight for our freedoms now, or lose everything forever.
No.
EWard,
I sent you letter and contact over to the person I
e-mailed you about. You should hear from her if you haven’t already. Thank you again
#7 prplvette85 on 07
They won’t be caging this puma up all day!
So what’s up with this guy repeat68?
Does he really think he’s going to get away with creating chaos? The police learned lessons from 68 onward…
I will say that I liked two items on his demonstrtation agenda: Global Warming and No Borders.
I like the idea of people being allowed to live whereever they chose, that would be one way of yaying or naying governments.
Have any other Clinton delegates been stripped of their seats at the convention?
#13 I agree with you…it’s not going to happen here either. I am too old to be caged, and young enough to not let it happen lol
Perfect Whitman Poem Murhpy.
#10 I think your right but I think it may be both. We have to get as many out of office. Even if its a couple it wiull make the rest think or rethink there position. Than new leaders will need to step in right away to fill the vacume. My thoughts is all. I did get to make the phine calls today got put on voicemail.
Received my t-shirts today. Very nice! Another thank you note headed your way Murphy.
“We’re in a war, ladies and gentlemen.”
I’m not at war. I detest the concept.
I’m not into war, neither am I into incitement nor hyperbole.
If our actions do not bring about concrete and profound changes to the Democratic, then I will add my resources to an existing 3rd party or a new party.
We will stand strong and stay with our convictions
EVENING PUMAs! Finally I’m on earlier! Murphy, excellent topic downstairs.
Murphy TigressGold has been trying to get in and she sent a e-mail. She didn’t see any other way of joining
REPOST
MARYLANDPUMA -
Keep watching the Global list growing and had a thought!
Perhaps signs in the languages of the countries ( or maybe even flags) that represent our global members in Denver will send a message regarding OUR “foreign relations”. Plus I feel it is a token of respect and friendship to show them how much we appreciate all their support and efforts in our cause.
Someone also mentioned the other night that the names of all our members could be on signs, so those of us who can not attend will feel some small sense of being there. Perhaps you already saw it .
I’m sorry, but am I the only person who thinks that what happened today in the case of Debra Bartoshevich is infinitely significant?
It’s not about Bartoshevich being a martyr.
It’s about the rights of Democrats to oppose the party as a means of remaining loyal to its principles.
My anger has turned to confusion at what appears to be indifference to an infinitely significant inaction on the part of the Democratic Party leadership, who refused to act and turned the decision over to unprincipled Democratic Party of Wisconsin losers.
I told her to go to join here or to register
I can see no other way than McCain if we cannt get Hillary. I will work to my last breath to do what I have to to not allow this global one nation take over person to lead anything. He wants to give our country away thats what this trip was about.
Have you heard? I’m surprised that pumas are not talking about it. Not one mention of John Edwards on this thread. Can FOX be trusted on this one?
#26 sandipuma,
Told who, Debra Bartoshevich? And will we be acting in any significant way in regard to her case?
Knoxville PUMA
i guess the democratic party expects us to lie about what we will do in the voting booth. I respect the Hell out of Debra for being honest…There is no way to prove that the other delegates will or won’t vote for BO…that’s why we have a secret ballot in this country..I think it’s disgraceful what they have done.
#23 sandipuma,
Sorry. Missed that one!
#25 Knoxville Puma
Dances says it very well.
#20 DancesWithPumas on 07.25.08 at 8:50 pm
“We’re in a war, ladies and gentlemen.”
I’m not at war. I detest the concept.
I’m not into war, neither am I into incitement nor hyperbole.
If our actions do not bring about concrete and profound changes to the Democratic, then I will add my resources to an existing 3rd party or a new party.
msBin 24- I didnt see that but oh it would mean so much. A way for the rest of us to feel we belonged and were there also.It is a great idea and I hope it will be carried out.thanks to who ever thought it up.
#30 queen81,
It’s obviously disgraceful. The question is: what are we going to do about it? Does anyone else even see the implications of their actions today? YOU SHOULD ALL BE ABSOLUTELY ENRAGED.
I am.
If the DNC had their way we would be set back 40 to 50 years as women. You men wouldn’t. It’s not a good situation
26 sandipuma
I told her to go to join here or to register
Has your friend set up a gmail account? That’s what I had to do in order for my registration to go through correctly. That was (seems like) years ago though and things may have changed. Just a thought.
It’s not that she is a Clinton delegate or whatever. It’s that she said that she was going to exercise her right as a citizen, as a Democrat, to speak to her party by dissenting. And they stripped her, stripped us all, of the right to dissent, which is based on an important principle of democracy.
Like i said before the DNC has broken so many rules but don’t let us do one thing they do not like.
Hello Pumas.
Did you hear Lanny Davis and Ricki Lieberman will be on No We Wont blog talk radio on Sunday at 8PM?
Wow, huh?
I’m sorry, but I need to separate myself from all of this for a while. If this doesn’t anger every last one of you to your core, then I just don’t understand what we’ve all been doing.
Pumas, do ya think Obama now believes that the surge is working? Because if it hadn’t worked he would have been dodgeing bullets instead of hard unscripted questions. Hey Pumas do ya think well go down in History as the McCain Democrats? Ya know like the Regan dems.
Knoxville,
I am enraged. This is yet another ‘back room deal’ for bobo.
The DNC has to be scrubbed and every other Democrat that has been a part of this.
she is at aol.com
BREAKING NEWS:
Here’s what I just read at FOX news:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391426,00.html
no i don’t think she knows about gmail
hehehehe love Hannity
knoxville
I think we all are but cannt allow them to use it to beat us down. It makes my resolve even more hardened Hannity is going to talk about Edwards in a min.Obama now. Hang tough Knoxville we need you.
I won! I’m #47!
#40 Knoxville Puma
It’s INFURIATING! The DNC is doing all they can to bolster their selected one and it, hopefully, just won’t work com November. I think we’re all hoping that when push comes to shocve, and people are standing in the voting booth on November 4th (*Sigh* It seems history is not without irony. For me anyway) and they think about the 2 candidates. They will choose experience over American Idol glamor
#48?
40 KNOXVILLE -
I totally understand your feeling, because I have been that way all day.
Just feel so overwhelmed and sad today, so I am laying low myself!
Good evening all,
I am trying to read the posts and catch up. There has been so much going on today.
Post # 40
I am trying to catch up on what happened. With everything I have read thus far. I have to say I agree with you 1000% on this. It is so wrong. I am not sure what we can do, but we should do something.
wow got fired for being hungover today
lol
me thinks my politics may have played inti it
45 sandipuma
no i don’t think she knows about gmail
She might want to get the gmail account…
it takes two minutes.
Knoxville:
It is outrageous…and everything has been outrageous.
It’s important to still get angry. The worst would be if we all became complacent, that we all just submit to injustice. it would be the ruination of democracy.
50 Amarissa
I won! I’m 47!
48?
Happy Birthday, Marissa!!
Hannity is going to have more on about Edwards
#742 Maryland PUMA… Resend the email? What would be the point? sigh
I didn’t think the blog name and email had to be the same? I guess I didn’t know that was required to have an email to the administration opened and responded to?
How Dumb, Dumb, Dumb could I have been! I am so sorry that I made it so confusing.
The heading to my email to you is called WEBSITE DESIGN…
Listen lets get strong and large enough to start a New Democatic Party
Happy 29th Birthday Amarissa
I will IM her
Is it Amarissa’s Birthday??
Happy Happy!
henry:
Cheer up. That’s nothing compared to what FOX is reporting about John Edwards today.
henry, sorry to hear that. Maybe you can get unemployment and grab a better job in the interim?
Is it me, or is the site slow and jerky?
goanderson, yes, a little bit
Question:
There aren’t any of you who still watch MSNBC right?
I IMed her but she didn’t answer me so maybe she is trying to get in
not me. boycotting
#742 Maryland PUMA… Do I need to cancel my Member name? Change my Blog name? Email? Or, change my email to my blog name or visa-versa?
How does this work? I ‘ve been here since the day after the blog started and didn’t even know all of the PumaPac protocols! LOL! What! Can’t get any dumber and slower than that!
MSNBC. H*LL no.
I miss so much when I am at work. It takes me forever to catch up on things. I heard something about Edwards and reporters not sure what happened there. I am hoping to catch it on FOX soon.
No I never watch msnbc have boycotted them for months…i only watch foxnews
#62 goandersen
No, my birthday was the 19th of this month that’s when we started the “sign” thing. But thanks anyway I am still celebrating here with all of you!
Knoxville,
Of course, we are angry about it, especially since many of us stood up for Debra Bartoshevich and tried to keep this from happening.
But we can’t let it divert us from our mission. It’s one more argument. It’s one more reason to fight. It’s one more weapon we can use against the DNC. But it’s not the end goal.
Remember, our first priority is to get Hillary nominated. If we fail in that mission, we must then focus on keeping Obama out of the White House.
Debra Bartoshevich is a foot soldier in that battle. She took a risk and, unfortunately, did not escape unscathed. But if she were here with us, she would tell us to carry on with our mission. Put your anger to good use, dear friend. For Hillary. For Debra. For all of us.
#56 DancesWithPumas
Oh, now I see where this birthday thing comes from! When I said I won, I am #47 I was joking about all of you who claim to be # 1 posting! LOL!
65 goandersen
Is it me, or is the site slow and jerky?
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You’re not slow and jerky, so it must be the site.
#35 Sandipuma.
I have to disagree, Driving women backwards takes men along with them. Most people live in a two income household. When a wife gets pregnant, how many men can afford to take over all the bills? When some ones wife gets denied her promotion because of the old boys club, how does that effect the home life? How about the fact that men are made impotent in being able to deal with such things.
Thats just the tip of the iceberg.
Theres also the sisters mothers g/fs nieces, all of whom will be denied the opportunity to achieve because of sexism. Not to mention the degradation that will be considered acceptable. That will lead to violence from men. No body treats any women close to me (or any woman in public) with less than respect. Any man who does will deal with me ( and has) in our traditional method of settling disputes. A solid straight left followed by a good right hook. (I’m a southpaw).
No we are all affected. Some men (and women) just don’t see it.
#75 Amarissa
I know!
But I couldn’t let it go!
Yes, I am number eight hundred and six!
Teasing those that try to be #1
761 BillieJo on 07.25.08 at 9:21 pm
#718 TrishfromCanada on 07.25.08 at 8:25 pm
#487 BillieJo
We have completed part 1 of our project, are you up to help us with part 2 ?
Fantastic!! Yes I am ready Trish, sock it to me by email.
I hope the second part is less timely.
73 Amarissa,
Guess I missed it. ;(
Are any of you watching Glenn Beck on Fox. I do believe he is a PUMA. We need to email him with some praise!
#65 goandersen
Yeah the site’s been kind of, to coin a phrase, hinky lately. Not sure what’s going on.
Maybe high traffic. And Dances’ response to Go’s question. *lmao* 
That was hilarious.
#76 DancesWithPumas
I will be by the time all is said and done! LOL
Take me away to Shady Acres!
#78 DancesWithPumas
Got me! you are fast!
But since it could be my birthday, I’ll have another sangria! LOL
she said she sent a e-mail awhile ago and wanted to come in tonight but has not gotten anything back
when you click on join it says you have to send a e-mail
#37 Knoxville puma.
As i understand it, each delegate has to sign a pledge to support the nominee until after the convention. Thats the rule. I may be wrong but i do believe I saw that when we were discussing the rules for the convention here.
If those are the rules she broke them. I admire her courage but, she knew the consequences.
She willingly gave up her delegate status to stand for what she believes in. I applaud her.
so how long will it take???
Edwards did it. It will all come out, but the National Enquirer is rarely wrong.
It proves my point that if Edwards was a good and decent man, he would have supported Hillary Clinton. Instead, the dirty dog supported the other dirty dog.
Women, it is time for us not only to demand the front of the bus, but it is time for us to demand to drive the bus. NOW, not tomorrow. NOW.
Yes 77 but i am talking about womens rights and i don’t have a man
I agree Jen!
DancesWithPumas removes a sangria from her tray, places it in front of Amarissa, and waits for a (large*) tip.
* Financing my trip to Denver.
89 jenniforhillar
Aaah, it warms the cockles of my heart to again be fighting for Equal Rights! And with all the Pumas at my side. What a site!
I am right on the front lines with you!
92 Dances
LOL!
90 sandipuma
I don’t either, YaY!
77 is right though.
Arrogance Will Not Help Get Obama Elected
Excerpt: In the prayer he left at the Western Wall, Senator Obama asked the Lord to protect him from pride and despair. Maybe he should have added something about protecting his campaign from the related danger of arrogance. It might be the biggest threat to Obama’s success.
“They think they can’t lose,” one of the smartest people I know said to me this week, describing the attitude he sees on display in the Obama campaign. He isn’t the first one to say it.
There was a crop of stories, as the trip was ending, suggesting that the Obama campaign, which used to pride itself on its openess and transparency as compared to the Clinton machine, has now abandoned openess and transparency in favor of tight controls, attacks on reporters who write less-than flattering pieces, and a particularly unattractive form of hardball that people who think they are on the way to the White House, or already there, often adopt. It will not serve him well.
Continue reading excellent article:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
#90 sandipuma
That makes two of us, shall we dance like the women in this post’s picture? They are two women dancing right? Or is it too much sangria?
I watch the news as a wake up call to re-invigorate me to keep working. It scares the heck out of me, and I am a pretty brave girl. I don’t know which is worse, that they support him or that they think I am stupid enough to support him.
When all of this is said and done, I think a lot of ass whooping needs to happen. I will volunteer gladly
I sent that storey about Edwards to Hannity last night and 2 other stories . Around 9 my time last night
she is still trying to get in. But it says e-mail when she hits join. So she e-mailed twice
#98 jenniforhillary
98 jenniforhillary
i will bring my case of whoop!
98 we can all do that
Just had an idea: Let’s send our Democratic “Leaders” some Jalapeños!
#93 goanderson
Aaah, it warms the cockles of my heart to again be fighting for Equal Rights!
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The cockles of my heart have been warmed, toasted, baked, broiled, steamed, poached, and burnt to a crisp fighting for equal rights all these decades.
This fight will have to be something radically different, although I’m not quite sure how. I do believe that men will have to suffer some serious consequences if they do not fight along side of us equally… and not because they see women as appendages via blood or marriage, but because they either know it;s the right thing and will raise the consciousnesses of their brothers (instead of preaching to the choir), or because they will suffer serious consequences. Speaks to a language, that for some, is their first (and sometimes, only) language.
We should discuss after Denver.., or on Nov 5.
Ok Pumas give me time to catch up. Keep an eye out for at least six new PUMAs.
SANDIPUMA - have your friend email me for instructions. marylandpuma@email.com
you could knock Obunbus over with a feather
Got my computer fixed and had no intentions of blogging tonight - but
KNOXVILLE PUMA - and I just started reading from the bottom up so do not know how many people have agreed or disagreed with you about the Wisconsin delegate - but I see you have passionately tried your best to get people stirred up and
#74Firebelle Puma - I understand completely what you are saying as well about picking our battles - but guess what folks - this is a big battle - and in my opinion - bigger than the likes of a Donna - that everyone is so passionate about -
Many of us - and I was one included - sent emails to the Chairman of the Democratic Party in Wisconsin saying not to do it - we were all ignored and it happened -
I personally am in touch with another superdelegate on a daily basis - that has to remained nameless but was in a meeting with others that was trying to press her to admit that she was for Hillary rather than No name and felt very uncomfortable - IF WE LET this happen to just one delegate the word will get out that anyone else that votes for someone other than Precious will be attacked and stripped of their status - isn’t this kinda of what we are trying to do - get her nominated - I personally think we all should send another blast of emails to the good Chairman saying how displeased we are of his actions - if for nothing else but send a sign to others NOT TO MESS WITH OUR OTHER DELEGATES - this is just one and a sign that there could be others.
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION- and now I am off for the night - have a good evening everyone.
ok Maryland puma i think she is coming through the door right now
Re Debra Bartoshevich:
Use it to our advantage as part of our protest. We have to stay focused on our mission not to let Obama buy is way into the White House. It’s our country.
I think she is in
#41 tillerylakelady on 07.25.08 at 8:58 pm
Well… there are those that will vote for McCain, some are voting for 3rd party, some are sitting out, some are going to write-in hillary and some will fall in line.
But, depending on how the rest of the election goes… it’s quite possible that there will be McCain Dems in history.
wrt Edwards… gosh, I hope that isn’t true for his wife’s sake. If true… shame on JE.
I think the new articles at NoQuarterUSA deserve time on network news.
http://noquarterusa.net
New!
“Clinton donors give big to Obama, but not the other way ’round”
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/clinton-obama-d.html
What dopes!
#105 DancesWithPumas on 07.25.08 at 9:40 pm
#93 goanderson
Aaah, it warms the cockles of my heart to again be fighting for Equal Rights!
____________________________________________
The cockles of my heart have been warmed, toasted, baked, broiled, steamed, poached, and burnt to a crisp fighting for equal rights all these decades.
This fight will have to be something radically different, although I’m not quite sure how. I do believe that men will have to suffer some serious consequences if they do not fight along side of us equally… and not because they see women as appendages via blood or marriage, but because they either know it;s the right thing and will raise the consciousnesses of their brothers (instead of preaching to the choir), or because they will suffer serious consequences. Speaks to a language, that for some, is their first (and sometimes, only) language.
We should discuss after Denver.., or on Nov 5.
————
Very radically different. This is the same fight on the same old play ground. WE are seasoned now though.
Let the revolution begin!
Ok i sent her your e-mail
I will bring my lil’ ass
re: 113 NO WAY!! Honestly people I would rather choke on pennies than give him one…NOT EVEN ONE PENNY WOULD I GIVE HIM!
What is wrong with people…has everyone drunk that damn kool aid?
#58 WBD
No no no. If your blog username is different than your email addy, it’s hard for me to find. My email shows whatever REAL name you used to register the account. It’s frustrating as HELL. I have over 1000 emails in my inbox and 2000 in my archive that I have to file through.
I’ll go look for that title. Hang tight. Don’t get frustrated. I was at work when you asked me earlier. Now I am home and have winzip. It is entirely possible I opened it at work and since I couldn’t do anything with it then, I saved it till tonight and forgot.
Be right back.
dwp #105. yup.
113 Amarissa
I don’t think I have seen that look on HRC’s face!!
If looks could k—!
It is a look of pure, utter disgust!
test
I agree 108
#119 goandersen
test2
Murphy did you get a e-mail from my freind trying to get in?? she said she clicked join and it said she had to send a e-mail??
DWP high fives Sister Murphy!
Maryland- I sent you a few photos from our protesting of Dean in Charlotte NC today
122 InuHanyou1701
I cannot wait! I just cannot wait for the smack down!
finally. I cant seem to get more than one post without reloading the home page and sometimes not even then. Would like to comment tonight but I’ll just lurk a bit. =hugs to all=
As far as voting in November goes, I pray each day that Hillary will be the obvious choice.
If not, I will campaign TIRELESSLY for the candidate most likely to win because that man is so scary that NO ONE COULD BE WORSE. NO ONE.
Also, it is very very important to send a message to the DNC should they keep Hillary out that this is what you get when you mess with true Democrats.
I am a jewish woman, and I will leave this country in a heartbeat should that man win. Principle and fear will drive me out. But if I am forced out I will leave with my integrity, something many will never get back.
I do not understand how Howie, Dean and Nancy sleep at night. Donna must have lost both her mind and conscience long ago, and ANY woman who is still supporting that man is an embarassment to herself. At some point in our collective lives we must simply say NO MORE. I would hope that we have reached that point.
Maryland
Do I have to put another quarter in for the site to work better?
Gonna be very interesting if the Hell’s Angels show up to rally in Denver and protest Obama, screaming, “Howl, PUMA’s, Howl” as 1000 of them rev their Harleys. LOL
From Amarissa’s link to the LA Times:
“. . .That’s in addition to the $1.6 million The Times identified earlier this week in donations from Clinton donors to Obama in June.
However, it wasn’t a two-way street last month. Obama’s donors gave Clinton a mere $105,000 in June, despite a plea from Obama that his high-roller donors help retire her $22 million in campaign debts.
In June, Clinton donors gave $1.53 million to the Obama Victory Fund, established by Obama and the Democratic Party to raise money far in excess of the $2,300 that individuals can give to a presidential candidate. By law, the fund can receive high five-figure checks and divvy them up among various other Obama-related committees.”
ugh.
link here:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/clinton-obama-d.html
One more try.
Sandipuma, The point I was trying to make is that rolling back womens rights hurts everyone. Men included.
shes been trying to get in for a long time lol
sandipuma — there is a new user named tigress gold. She does not need to send an email to blog.
tell her to simply log in to the blog and start commenting.
I’ll look for her first comment to approve it.
Hang tight!
133 ok i see what you are saying
#131 MountainSong
I will be right there with them!
Queen81 — mp forwarded me the photos!
They are super!
What kind of response did you get?
#130 goandersen
she gave up and said she would try tomorrow
goandersen — do you ride a harley??
#119 goandersen
I think that picture has been photoshoped!
Sandipuma — noooooo!
Tell her to call me — I’ll email you my phone number.
I will send her a e-mail
LMAO! Murphy, you crack me up!
“despite a plea from Obama”
Would that be like the afterthought “plea” (”oh, I forgot, please give Senator Clinton” your spare change)
after he absorbed another spotlight?
#58 WBD
Definitely did not get it. Please resend.
goandersen, well! you never know! When I was younger I would NEVER see women riding their own motorcycles. Now I see them ALL the time. I love it! I always want to wave at them like a little kid, but I’m afraid they’ll flip me the bird.
I cannot think about Hillary’s peeps giving that man money. I am very very upset right now, and I am going to go play with my animals.
I love my parents, but I do not always do what they tell me. Sometimes we have to think for ourselves. NO Hillary peep should have given that man anything but the FINGER (the bad one)….
Once again, thank you Murphy and all puma people for letting me know that the fight is more than in my heart and my head. God bless you all!!
142 Amarissa
I saved it as well, with my own caption. LOL!
#25 Knoxville Puma
Here’s one Puma that is in complete agreement with you. It is infinitely significant. When I read about this last Wed. I was mad as hell and here is what I posted:
#630 7/23/08 6:40 pm
Apologies if this was posted earlier.
Quote FROM Debra Bartoshevich…
“The Wisconsin Democratic Party is holding a conference call THIS FRIDAY, July 25, to make a decision about whether to allow me to retain my status as a Hillary Clinton delegate to the Democratic National Convention in August in Denver.”
BACKGROUND: The Wisconsin DNC is telling Debra she will lose her delegate status. She is fighting so she can vote for Hillary @ the convention. Please help Debra by immediately contacting the Democratic Party Chair and ask them to stop rigging this process by punishing someone simply for supporting Hillary Clinton:
Joe Wineke, DP Chair
The Democratic Party of Wisconsin
222 W. Washington Ave. Suite 150
Madison, Wisconsin 53703
CALL: (608) 255-5172
FAX: (608) 255-8919
EMAIL: party@wisdems.org
thank you.
I do not believe this post received any comments but that doesn’t mean there was no action. I do hope many faxes and emails were sent along with mine.
Clearly this did not stop the despicable action taken but it would let them know we are aware of their atrocious actions. I doubt we will find any mention in the media.
This is more than the loss of a delegate. We are losing our democracy, it is hanging in the balance. This is why Denver is so important.
Certainly racism and sexism and all the “isms” are horrible and damaging. However, in my view, there is nothing more horrifying or damaging than the loss of our democracy.
I am angry and frightened but anxious to try to make things happen will all the other Pumas.
via JSND — want to help Cindy Sheehan against Nancy Pelosi?
SND ACTION26 : HELP CINDY SHEEHAN COMPLETE HER SIGNATURE DRIVE SO SHE CAN UNSEAT
PELOSI - IF YOU LIVE IN SAN FRAN, SIGN! IF NOT, DONATE A COUPLE OF BUCKS…
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BACKGROUND: Cindy Sheehan. the gutsy anti-war Democrat challenging Nancy
Pelosi, must turn in 10,198 signatures by August 8th to get on the ballot.
She has 9,764. Can you help put her over the top…..either sign or donate to her
signature collection drive! $10 each from 100 people, or $5 each from 200 would
do the trick! If not, ask a friend in SF to sign…
From Cindy’s website at http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
…A $10 donation can help us secure 10 valid signatures. Support our signature
drive with a contribution. Click here to donate.
ok
#148 murphy on 07.25.08 at 10:00 pm
goandersen, well! you never know! When I was younger I would NEVER see women riding their own motorcycles. Now I see them ALL the time. I love it! I always want to wave at them like a little kid, but I’m afraid they’ll flip me the bird.
I used to ride. Too crouchity now.
Go ahead and wave, they won’t flip you off.
Do you ride? Try it. It is very freefing.
Friday 7/25 at 10pm ET. The debut of our exciting new weekly show hosted by DCMediagirl. Tune in to complain and comment about the 2008 race for the White House, the MSM and the politics of South Asia. Her special guest for part of the program will be the rudest Pakistani blogger Nail ‘em Up, who’ll offer his country’s perspective on whether Obama’s comments about Pakistan are being received and whether Pakistanis buy the “hope and change” slogan.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/07/26/DCMediaGirls-Hour-of-Power
PUMAs we are going to run and get a pizza. I will be back. See you all in a little bit!
I’m reposting this from downstairs in case anyone on at night who didn’t see it wants to give their imput (…Murphy?). I got a few replies, which I’ll paste in another post below.
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VIRAL EMAILS against BO
A friend of mine in the east coast backed Hillary during the primaries but when HC “pulled out” she moved to BO. I told her about JSND/PUMA and sent her the link to pumapac. She’s open-minded and I thought I was swaying her away from BO… But then one day she received a forwarded chain-email (viral email) with the subject: “20 Reasons Why We Must Keep McCain from Winning” (something along those lines). She forwarded it to me and wrote, “Did you know all this?! I just can’t let the Republicans win. It might be sad what happened to Hillary… and BO may not be the ideal… but McCain is worse, SO I’M VOTING FOR BO!”
Well… I’m still working on her. But the main point here is that this got me thinking about the effectiveness of these “viral/chain emails”… and (I suggested this before, but more meekly) … WHY NOT CREATE OUR OWN VIRAL EMAIL(s)… something like, “20 Reasons Why We Should Turn Down Obama.”
At the bottom, these viral-emails usually say, “Please forward this to at least 5 people”… or, “Please forward this to as many people as possible” …. or “…to all the registered voters you know.” This is how they spread all over the cyberworld!!!
The template for the viral email can be nicely formatted and would be found at a PUMApac page (the Action Center?) available for us to download or copy and paste into a blank email so we can send it to other people and have them forward it to others.
The viral-email template at PUMApac could be periodically updated to reflect any new relevant information that comes out about BO, etc. Also, when we copy and paste it into our blank email, we can change or modify anything to make it sound better for the person we are sending it to.
I know some organizations (I think even MoveOn.org) have used the viral-email idea to “campaign” and spread info throughout the internet. Why don’t we also do something like that?
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PS. If you didn’t see my other longer post earlier today, here’s the link to it:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/25/cupcake-or-turnips/#comment-66475
(If you hold CTRL while you click, it opens in a new tab)
I’m compiling ideas for ways to “campaign” against BO and spread the word on our PUMA cause. I welcome all ideas and thoughts on this topic.
re: Wieneke and the Bartoshevich martyrdom. Puma PAC actually did a Growl on this when it was first reported that the Wisconsin state party was considering doing this.
The democratic party seems DETERMINED to self-destruct at every level this year.
Re #10 Knoxville Puma
Did anyone watch the HBO presentation of John Adams? This reminds me of the scene where the Continental Congress received a letter from King George in response to their many requests to the crown for changes. Before that letter many of the representatives wanted to remain loyal to England and work things out (sort of like “working from within”). That letter condemned the Congress as traitors and told the representatives that their actions would not be tolerated. That letter united the 13 Colonies and was the catalyst for writing the Declaration on Independence. It was the political turning point in our revolution at least in the movie.
We will no matter what happens at the Convention, we will be the real catalyst for change not Obama or any of his cronies. Rejoice the battles lines are closing and soon we will begin to make history.
A little dramatic? Yeah but I look forward to this fight because I believe we are right. It is a privilege to be a Puma and I am happy you guys are in this with me. Oh did anyone bring some spare musket balls?
I contributed to Sheehan. I am not in Pelosi’s District, but I will do everything I can to kick her lily white to the curb!
(I am lily white too)
#152 Murphy
have you sent that to your people who send out those puma notices?
These are some of the responses I got to my post downstairs on VIRAL EMAILS AGAINST BO (I reposted my post here a little further up).
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446 mzebest
#440 LandiPUMA
If we formulate a viral email… let’s have credible information such as a link to the YouTube of the report on how Obama became Senator… that is the seed of doubt that exposes his corruption at the roots. Next the video of how he copies his speeches from others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU
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453 antifish
#440 LandiPuma,
I think that’s a great idea! As long as everything we list is researched and factual, this is bound to be a winning strategy.
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459 Laurey4Hill
#440 LandiPuma, that is a really good idea. There are so many great writers on this site, maybe they could compose that email with the really good researchers and we can all send them out.
Hint, Hint Maryland Puma, DWP, Mama, MPDamon, Mzebest, etc….
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471 notfolloeinthepiedpoper
#440 LandiPUMA
I’ve been copying and pasting all the reliable posts and articles I can find and launching each one out into the “email ocean” for weeks now. I get notes back from people I don’t even know, saying thanks for the info. This battle will have to be fought and won little by little, person to person with all the media still in Ba-yuk’s pocket.
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I may have missed some that didn’t use my username in replying, but when I have more time I will compile all ideas/suggestions related to this as well as other ideas for persuading others/spreading the word about our cause & rejecting BO.
sandipuma, my email to you bounced. will you email me at murphy@pumapac.org so I can reply with the phone number?
Now I am determined to get that dang friend of yours in here!
goandersen — I’d love to, but I’m too skeered.
Oh no - it should say “happen WITH all the other Pumas.
#158Murphy - if obviously was not a growl I got, sorry.
i am at sandi1wiz@netzero.com
i lost my aol lol
dang aol in the bag for BHO
Just donated $20 to Cindy Sheehan in honor of Hillary.
dwp #161 — no — I try to keep the emails to members down to a reasonable number. My thinking is that members have signed up to receive emails from us (and our individual members) but dont necessarily want us to forward all the emails I get from our sister groups . . .
I may be off in my thinking, but that’s my reasoning
156 InuHanyou1701
PUMAs we are going to run and get a pizza.
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I’ll have my half with anchovies, pleasethankyou.
Amarissa will pay you… she stiffed me on the drink AND the tip.
Oh no - it should say “happen WITH all the other Pumas.
#158 Murphy- sorry, I was unaware of the growl.
ANOTHER NEW GOODIE!
Terry McAuliffe, Hillary Clinton’s best buddy, picks another for VP
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/mcauliffe-cli-1.html
#157 LandiPUMA
This is a GREAT idea. Especially if we can compile enough “evidence”. We should also consider floating this out in MySpace form as well as I already get annoyed to death with all the chain bulletins I get there.
Ok. Going for real now. Be back soon PUMAs!
#169 Murphy
I’m on the mailing list and I love knowing what other PUMAs are doing, even when I can’t participate…
but I understand. They’re probably overwhelmed anyway.
163 murphpaws
There are cycle training classes you can take, they have smaller bikes to learn on. That would build your confidence.
I can just see you flying down the backroads now!
#159 Newcatonthe block.
I missed it. Darn it.
However you reminded me of a little remembered fact about the march from Lexington to Concord. Which triggered the “shot heard round the world”.
The reason they British marched on Concord was to confiscate the colonists firearms.
Much like trying to silence all dissenters. Words are our weapons.
#168 antifish rodham
High fives girl!
OK, I think from now on whoever is first on here should have to donate 20 dollars….haha
#170 DancesWithPumas
Ok, I will pay, just tell the pizza place to come to PR to pick up the money! LOL
172 amarissa
“So the former Democratic Party chair made waves this week after he told a crowd of Virginia Democrats the politician he thinks Barack Obama should choose as his vice presidential running mate.
It wasn’t Clinton –- a possible clue that the Senator from New York has been bumped from Obama’s list of potential VPs. If you needed a clue.
Instead, according to the Falls Church News-Press, McAuliffe pointed to Virginia Governor Tim Kaine. “McAuliffe was adamant in his recommendation of Kaine as the Democratic Party’s vice presidential nominee,” the News-Press reported.”
THANK GOODNESS!!!
#169 Murphpaws
I wouldn’t mind getting those emails either.
FUNNY NEWS FLASH:
A close friend of mine is a die-hard Red Sox fan and a peripheral PUMA (in spirit, but not active). She is at the Sox-Yankees game at Fenway tonight. For those of you who are not baseball fans, it is the ultimate rivalry–going back decades. Lots of media coverage at these games. Sort of like another rivalry we are familiar with…
Anyway, she texted me from the game tonight: “Puma reference on a sign at Sox-Yanks game!”
I haven’t been able to get back to her to find out exactly what one of our own wrote on the sign, but WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!
YAHOO PUMAS!
I just found out that Cindy Sheehan lives in the Mission District of SFO. Cool!
Dances,
she is not far from me then.
Murphy you have mail. Just call me a slow poke
Amarissa:
Ok, I will pay, just tell the pizza place to come to PR to pick up the money!
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If they’re going all the way to PR for the pizza money, you’re gonna have to spring for #92 also!
#158 Murphy - apparently all our growl got from the Wisconsin Democratic party was a third finger - now I think we need to give them a full Hand or PAW whichever is the case - we need to let people know that we are not on a search and destroy mission - that we will hit once and that is it if you survive our hit - they need to know that there will be more coming where that came from if they continue their actions - and it is no longer about the Wisconsin delegate its about all the other delegates and superdelegates that are watching this action and BELIEVE me they ARE watching.
I lied I said I was signing off - but lurked - now back to my projects for Puma.
mp — will you email me the two-faces flyers again?
the blue and the white backgrounds?
thanx!
#180 DancesWithPumas
You think he is doing this with Hillary’s approval? I sure hope so, I couldn’t take another traitor! I love (ed?) Terry! I had a chance to meet him here in PR the night of Hillary’s victory and had my picture taken with him. It was a grand evening! If he is cheating on her it would really hurt!
184 goandersen
The thing about the Mission District, pre-Silicon Valley, is that it was a low rent ghetto of sorts (working poor and working class latinos and lesbians), but the best kept secret was that it had the best weather in all of SFO!
Ok brb need to get up from this chair and walk around. I get stiff. Hmmm sign of old age.
189 Amarissa,
Yes, I do think she approved of his announcement. Would you want to be Obama’s VP? Notice how many have said they weren’t interested? 5 or 6 at least.
#190 DancesWithPumas
That it is, less fog!
There are parts of it that are really ghetto, but some areas that are not.
Oh hell, the whole world is becoming a ghetto!
SandiPUMA
I emailed you the written instructions for Tigress.
Please foward them to her.
sandi you have mail too!
Hi goalucard. sorry about the clunkiness of the site the last day and a half. My fingers are crossed that the hosting company is getting its act together.
X
Murphy
On their way.
dwp and goandersen — well . . . you two are my bellweathers so I therefore I will tell the regional moderators to forward.
thanks!
mp -
soon you and trish wont be able to laugh at me for my mad uploading/downloading skilz!
Here’s the link for the Democrats up for reelection if any of you want to get busy unelecting them.
http://dccc.org/page/content/races
#28 maxgrader on 07.25.08 at 8:53 pm Have you heard? I’m surprised that pumas are not talking about it. Not one mention of John Edwards on this thread. Can FOX be trusted on this one?
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The thing is maxgrader that if it is true and most of believe where there is smoke there is fire, and thus we are in empathy for Mrs. Elizabeth Edwards.
And it is still gossip right now, right?
we’re more like bell peppers…but, ok.
Murphy, which web hoseting company would that be?
I did a little research from work today, and decided to get a blog (not public) so that I could learn the mechanics of it. (i’m a Gemini, we need to know everything, just for the sake of knowing).
#197 OMG Murphy it is time for me to say good nite I misread your post I thought you said you two are my bed wetters. LOL
Murphyyyyyyyy
You jinxed it. I just got my first 500 error of the night.
And you have to admit, the squirrel popping up and Trish’s nuts comment was hysterically funny.
#201 DancesWithPumas
LOL!
Make that two errors now.
#202 Pookie
ROFLMAO - too much sangria in the PUMA den!
#202 Pookie
That was Dances secret. LOL!
Go Vote! Will Obama’s Worldwide Ego Trip help or hurt him?
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/18/hot-seat-obamas-world-tour/
pookie, well that too.
dwp — dreamhost. let me know if you find a better one. I like their prices and support — very easy and friendly — laid back California company.
But with 1 million site visits a month, Puma PAC can’t afford to be down for even an hour.
I think I know why no one wants to be Bo’s VP, they know, HE, is not smart enough to be President, and they know, THEY, are not smart enough to take up the slack.Bo does not want Hillary because he know’s she is smarter then all of them put together!
202 Pookie
#197 OMG Murphy it is time for me to say good nite I misread your post I thought you said you two are my bed wetters. LOL
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LOL! LOL! omg! ROFL!!
(Pssst … Pookie… not me…. that would be goandersen shsssh)
People, people, people…. Missed the earlier post, but from what I am gathering, Debra Bartoshevich lost her standing as a delegate.
That’s because the Party Rules say that as a delegate one must enter the Convention in “good faith” and that means, obeying party rules. So if a person says they are going republican… that is NOT good faith.
Kind of like bishops gathering to vote for the next pope, and one of them says, I am going to vote for rabbi Ishmael.
It ain’t a gonna fly!
Voting in November under the General Election is quite another thing because that falls under the Constitution of the United States.
But-
Party Rules are just that, Party rules… as in an organization setting up its own bylaws. The DNC has nothing to do with our voter rights because its not in our Constitution.
- Primaries are not in our Constitution.
- Conventions are not in our Constitution.
antifish #207 — i voted. VERY interesting. My own wonderful state is not falling in line. Go massachusetts!
If a Democrat for Prez can’t win in Massachusetts then where the heck CAN he win??
210 DancesWithPumas
Oh no you don’t. I saw that depends pop up on your email!
LOL!
Murphy-
dean had to stop his speech because we were chanting “PUMA” too loud! we asked about Hillary being placed in nomination and all he would say was that she would be on roll call “if she chooses to be”. needless to say we were unpleased with that. We were very pleased to have many passer bys honking for Hillary. I think we threw him a little off kilter. They actually called in 3 more squad cars. of course we were a peaceful bunch and there were no issues. the Charlotte Observer as well as WCNC news was there and did interviews. I tried to get on camera and in print but they seemed only interested in promoting the stereotype of the “angry, old women” and declined to hear from the 27 year old…go figure!
213 goandersen
UNCLE
215 Dances
LOL!
I swear if I type one more entry only to have it go off into oblivion when I press submit, I’m going to hurt something! Roar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People all over the world will be watching what happens in Denver. Thousands of reporters will be there to cover these events. And hundreds of them will seek out PUMAs for interviews. They will ask why we object to BO’s nomination. Study the issues and be prepared to offer lucid and concise analyses of things like delegate selection and role; caucuses versus primaries; and procedures for nomination and balloting at the convention. Above all, please, remember this. Even if push comes to shove and law enforcement arrest protesters en masse, absolutely nothing else we do will focus the attention of the world on our cause as much as the sight of thousands of middle-aged women willing to risk incarceration to stand up for what they believe is right. And never forget the world is watching.
I am so sad my son and I are unable to be there.
Now, as I was attempting to post.
Dances and goandersen, keep those skilz under wraps. When we get to Denver, we’ll find out where Dean, Pelosi and Brazile are sleeping and let you have at their beds!
#217 antifish
Me too anti. I am having trouble cutting and pasting as well. Grrrrrrr!
antifish,
if you remember… copy your post before you hit submit… esp if it’s a long one, then just paste it in the return trip.
LOL Yup…
WE GOT SKILZ!
OMG. i KNOW i’m not supposed to visit anti-puma sites, I know it — but I was noticing on our stats page that yestodemocracy linked to us today. Bright bulb Christina is mocking me for not knowing that Leibniz’ Law is a scientific principle (of course it’s a philosophical theory, not a scientific principle, but to explain the difference to such an intellectually challenged. . . oh never mind). Anyway she thinks I’m ridiculous for thinking that Axelrod should be arrested for breaking Leibniz’ Law.
oh god.
oh lord.
oh boy.
zero comments over there so I guess we should let it die on the vine, but, oh boy.
#182 hillwarrior on 07.25.08 at 10:16 pm
I was talking about that at Bitter Politics and the last thread here.
My roommate and I were watching the game (two diehard sox fans here… actually all my roommates are)… and we caught that on tv.
There was a sign that said “Welcome back Big Papi” with the word PUMA in the corner of the sign.
It was cool to see that.
#217 antifish I have had the same problem all evening I had to type this 2 X’s
hey, you Republican PUMAS! Guess what VP Obala is “floating” a Republican from W’s cabinet! A woman, sillies! And if you don’t like it, you get a GOP guy!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/a-bushie-gop-vp-for-obama-its-female-too/
queen 81 — that is so great!! I love the tshirts!
#219 antifish
A Pee-In? Or at the Pee Inn?
#222 murphy on 07.25.08 at 10:44 pm
tsk tsk tsk, Murphy.
Pay no attention to that site.
Murphy,
I read that earlier. They stated it out of context, so the joke, from my pov, was on them.
How many times do we have to tell you not to go there?
You’re grounded… puma sites only or no allowance.
I noticed zero comments too. Ha. Karmic returns!
She needs us to keep her intellectually dishonest swamp alive… let’s starve it to death.
I’m back!
#170 DancesWithPumas
IGNORE! IGNORE!
bye David.
yeah — I’ll stay away — thanks guys. But like Atrios says, the stupid — it burns!
ok back to the nice me.
I just got this email from a friend of mine from Chicago, that is very close to the Hillary campaign. See for yourself from the mouth of one of our soldiers.
From: xxxxxxx
Date: 07/25/08 10:18:02
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: This came via a fellow SEAL, just kind of makes me sick to see the truth that the news won’t report. Our men and women in the service deserve better than this.
A friend passed this along… a message from Captain Jeffrey Porter,
currently serving in Afghanistan, to his family and friends back home:
Hello everyone,
As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass
along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour
on his visit to ‘The War Zone’. I wanted to share with you what
happened.
He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof
vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who
is the commander here at Bagram.
As the Soldiers were lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and
didn’t say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the
General. As he finished