Sunday Night Re-focus ;-)

Phewf. What a week! 50,000 or more letters sent to public officials. Hundreds, maybe thousands, of phone calls to the RBC and others. Letters to the Editor published across the land. The debut of our radio show broke records for numbers listening. Filming began on the Puma PAC documentary. Local actions organized around the land by mamapuma and her tireless team of regional moderators. Trish and the Crackest Team of Puma PAC Investigators developing THE most comprehensive database of contact information imaginable. MP helping dozens of new members start blogging and keeping our forums civilized and focused at ALL hours (well maybe not ALL hours!). A lonely vigil on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. A shameful letter from DNC officials. Some fair and balanced reporting from Tom Abrahams, and unabated hate and harrasment flowing from the Obama Movement.

On a personal note, I met my hero Riverdaughter and was more impressed than ever. I was sad to see our friend and Action Center originator PA4Hill move on. She’ll be missed. I was also sad to learn that MP ran into some personal static as a result of politics and the politics of posting.

We’ve accomplished so much everyone, and you know what I say — Tomorrow is another day!

I don’t know about you Folks, but I’m ready to KEEP IT UP. . .

To listen to last night’s radio show on NQR, click on this link (thanks vet!)

Join Puma PAC HERE!

Contribute if you can, HERE!

Be wonderful to each other. We are all in this together or all outside alone.

688 comments ↓

#1 Asian4Hillary on 07.20.08 at 10:03 pm

Ha! I am first!

#2 Asian4Hillary on 07.20.08 at 10:04 pm

Ok PUMA FAMILY

YOU SHOULD DOWNLOAD THIS MP3 by a PUMA supporter..its a RAP

http://www.dopeenterprises.com/pr_07-15-08.html

#3 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:04 pm

Rats…..oh well

Time to be snarky – 2nd!

#4 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:05 pm

Am I gonna have to come over there?

#5 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:05 pm

I give up…..LOL

snarky 4,500,923,470

#6 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:06 pm

Mad Logic

You still prowlin around?

#7 MadLogic on 07.20.08 at 10:12 pm

Yeap! I’m staying up today :-D

#8 MsBinMD on 07.20.08 at 10:15 pm

Am I the only one missing picture at top of post?
Do I need to do something.
I only have X in box when picture won’t load. Tried to refresh, no go.

#9 hillaryistheone on 07.20.08 at 10:16 pm

#8 MsBinMD

Mine is the same way!!

#10 MadLogic on 07.20.08 at 10:16 pm

#8 MsBinMD.
x for me too.

#11 queen81 on 07.20.08 at 10:17 pm

good evening everyone! what’s the current topic of discussion?

#12 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 10:17 pm

#8 MsBinMD, Same here.

#13 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:18 pm

***** DRUMROLL PLEASE *********

And try not to be too disappointed – has nothing to do with Hillary’s debt. :(

Mad Logic and I tag teamed a new poster:

Have a look see:
http://blog.pumapac.org/puma-pac-action-center/puma-pac-flyers/

#14 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:19 pm

Maybe its supposed to be blank so we can use it write more letters on? (kidding)

#15 Goalucard4Hill on 07.20.08 at 10:19 pm

MURPHY – got interrupted from my post by the telephone so I did not complete my thoughts – I would be happy to have you as my grand daughter – at your young age – you have already accomplished more than a dozen of people my age – so proud that I have had the opportunity to be a part of our mutual goals. I support you 1000-% – you are a gift to this country.

I so wanted Hillary as President – once you get to this age – you have one foot already in the grave and the other one on a banana peel – LOL – just a comment – not a warning – who knows what four years will bring to any of us – we have to enjoy and love what we do on a daily basis – and I love working for democracy.

#16 bruce55555 on 07.20.08 at 10:19 pm

#11 queen81
they’re talking about their x’s LOL
I have one too,
do you? :-)

#17 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:20 pm

13 Maryland PUMA

ummm… your poster link takes us to squirrel mail

#18 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 10:20 pm

My 18 year old son was a huge Hillary fan. He is now a self professed McCainiac!

#19 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:21 pm

Murphy fell asleep at the keys.

#20 bruce55555 on 07.20.08 at 10:21 pm

13 MarylandPUMA
I had to go sign up a Squirrelmail to see the posters, is there another way?

#21 MadLogic on 07.20.08 at 10:22 pm

Squirrel hey? :-)

#22 BigCatLover on 07.20.08 at 10:22 pm

#884 Kerri

OK how do I play in the chat room?

#23 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:23 pm

Ok I’m dying here

ROFLMAO

I dunno – Murphy?

Is this a prank?

#24 MsBinMD on 07.20.08 at 10:24 pm

See, we share everything!!
Have a good night all.
Been a long day and I am going to prepare for tomorrow and watch” Army Wives”.
GO PUMAs!!

#25 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:25 pm

This is where the crowd doesn’t laugh at the joke. LOL

Oh, my aching tummy. And a stuffy nose to boot!

ROFLMAO

#26 Kerri on 07.20.08 at 10:26 pm

Here’s the link to the new PumaPac chat room. It’s open 24/7 and allows for private IM between members as well as can be enforced. (IE, trolls can be tossed out)
Please, when you come, click on your name and change it to your PUmaPac name to avoid being thrown out as a troll. :)

#27 queen81 on 07.20.08 at 10:27 pm

bruce-

heaven help us all if i start talking about my x’s…not enough time in the world!

#28 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:27 pm

There’s supposed to be two posters there.

ROFLMAO

Soorrry – off topic but Trish cracked me up.

#29 joanna0902 on 07.20.08 at 10:28 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l82b3RQALg

We should send this to Kerry and Richardson! But what’s the use, they wouldn’t undestand.

#30 bruce55555 on 07.20.08 at 10:28 pm

22 bigcatlover
isn’t this a chat room that we’re on now?

#31 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:32 pm

BRUCE55555
A chatroom is like an Instant Message window with multiple user communicating in real time.

#32 TrishfromCanada on 07.20.08 at 10:33 pm

I sent this to Maryland, it’s why she laughed lol. I’ll share the joke

“lol ok I’m laughing because the squirrel is really cute, you trying to say Bo is nuts?”

#33 bruce55555 on 07.20.08 at 10:36 pm

31 DancesWithPumas
cool, thanks, shows how much I know, I’ll check it out.
Communicating in real time, that must be fast!

#34 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:37 pm

Ah well, you want the poster, email me until Murphy works out the , uh,

nuts from the shells.

:: giggle ::

#35 ABinNY on 07.20.08 at 10:39 pm

What’s with the squirrel mail thing and how do we get access?

#36 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:40 pm

kerri – where’s the link? Also, never been in a chat room – hope I’m better at that than I am at cutting and pasting!

#37 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:41 pm

Bruce55555555555555

http://xat.com/pumapac

#38 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:42 pm

and to top it off, Maryland Puma, don’t know what RFLMAO means! I’m hopeless….maybe I am middle-aged and bitter – although if you met me, you wouldn’t think so!

#39 tillerylakelady on 07.20.08 at 10:43 pm

pumas just come from the HCSFJM site and they got new info about Obamas Birth Certificate, heres the link
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
they got word from a fraud expert on certificates, and he claims that it is a forgery

#40 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 10:43 pm

joanna0902, wow, what a video! Let’s forget Richardson and Kerry for a minute and ask ourselves what the HELL happened to those thousands of people cheering for Senator Clinton. Our country has gone completely and utterly NUTS!

#41 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 10:43 pm

joanna- i watched the video and it made me sad..There is soooo much more to this story. They all just turned their backs even tho she won their states. I may never vote for a dem again.

#42 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:44 pm

LOL=laughing out loud
ROFL – rolling on floor laughing
BRB – be right back
AC – action center
PUMA= people united means action

#43 Middle age female on 07.20.08 at 10:44 pm

#38 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:42 pm and to top it off, Maryland Puma, don’t know what RFLMAO
***************************
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off!

#44 bellecat on 07.20.08 at 10:45 pm

What ever happened to web page that has the PUMA PAC logo and the flag and spiffy looking layout?
am I missing something?

Maryland, my e-mail is gartre@juno.com :)

#45 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 10:50 pm

Lorelai, I know how you feel about copy and paste, after a solid month trying I finally got it right and did the daily growl. Now tomorrow is another day and I will probably try and fail more times than I can count. Good Luck seems we both need it. Also i don’t know what ralmao means either.

#46 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:51 pm

Joanna0902 – Now that I know what ROFLMAO is, I’m not, because I just watched your video and it moved me to tears….
this is truly the Bizaarro world when you watch that video and see what has happened – These people are all major league frauds. And to think how upset I was when Kerry lost….(although he would have been better than Bush, I guess, but character for me now, is everything!)

#47 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:52 pm

Thanks for the tutorial Middle-aged female! It will help all of us who need Senior Tech! (or middle-aged tech, as the case may be)

#48 bellecat on 07.20.08 at 10:52 pm

gee! #42 dances with Pumas, thnaks for educating us.

I’ve just learned what the LOL, ROFL and BRB, etc. was all about!
When I joined the PUMA PAC, it was the first time ever that I’ve participated in blogging.
Now I’m getting to be a blogy savy! :)

#49 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:54 pm

Bellecat – here’s a new one for us
TANDQ – there are no dumb questions!

#50 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:55 pm

IMO= in my opinion
IMHO= In my humble opinion
GMTA=great minds think alike
AFK= away from keyboard
LOL=laughing out loud
ROFL – rolling on floor laughing
BRB – be right back
AC – action center
PUMA= people united means action

#51 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 10:58 pm

bellecat, cool!
My first blog experience was at Riverdaughter’s Confluence for a day or two of lurking, and then I came over here.
But I had spent a good amount of time in chatrooms in the early 90s, and in the one associated with my website (not PUMA related), but still, the blog thing came with a learning curve..

#52 bruce55555 on 07.20.08 at 10:59 pm

#50 DancesWithPumas,
groovy!!! :-)
and after showing my ignorance not knowing what a chat room is, I’m glad someone else asked this one!

#53 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 10:59 pm

Dances with Pumas – thanks so much!

#54 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:00 pm

Lorelai and Bellecat, I am there with you guys, I also am new to blogging, I can do this but all the other stuff is driving me mad!

#55 ElyLos Angeles on 07.20.08 at 11:00 pm

AQUARIANS

Murphy
Sandbag
ElyLos Angeles
Sychoram in MO
Flgirl
Kat4Puma
Jane-PA
SaraPuma
MamaPuma

And, Yes I also did my homework

#56 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 11:02 pm

#44 Bellecat

PA4Hill08 has decided to travel with others.

We loved the site too, but let’s not discuss it here. Believe me, it will stir up the pot again.

#57 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:04 pm

Maryland Puma or Murphy – can you take off my email address that inadvertently got posted up above on 51…? don’t want any trolls to get me….thanks…

#58 turndownobama on 07.20.08 at 11:06 pm

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/21830103/its_a_class_war_stupid?action=rate#rate

The registration isn’t too bad: it asks a lot of questions, but then the post goes right up.

This is an article well worth commenting on. It’s a popular magazine/site, a place to reach people outside our choir. The subject is very accessible and popular.

=============

For more alerts join PumaResponders.com

#59 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:06 pm

55 michelle47
which stuff?

#60 murphy on 07.20.08 at 11:07 pm

lorelai — done.

#61 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:09 pm

Anne Lewis is on FOX saying how great Obama is doing on his trip…When did she cross over?

#62 kai on 07.20.08 at 11:10 pm

Hi fellow Pumas, Murphy mentioned sadly PA4Hill has moved on….has something happened and she’s no longer a PUMA? If I remember correctly, wasn’t PA4Hill known as Undecided But Leaning on Hillary’s site who posted there on a regular basis? Also, another regular from Hillary’s site was PatFlorida who worked REALLY HARD to get those votes in Florida counted! Anyone heard from Pat again?

#63 StarDust on 07.20.08 at 11:10 pm

#32 TrishfromCanada

Email -please get back to me

#64 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:10 pm

Bruce Belle and everyone…
there is no shame in asking… that’s one of the ways we expand our minds and body of knowledge.

Many of us didn’t grow up with computers, or just weren’t that interested in them… but this isnt restricted to the Internet and computers, it speaks to everything. One way to guarantee ignorance is by not asking questions. We’ve all been there and will be again.

#65 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:10 pm

#60 Dances, Everything I am completely computer illiterate, I know where the power button is and the puma site. I literally bought a computer to join pumapac, I am a staunch Hillary suppoter and it was worth every penny.

#66 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:11 pm

Thanks Murphy – much appreciated……

#67 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:11 pm

62 kai

It’s been discussed… search old blogs. We’ve agreed to leave it where it there.

#68 alohapuma on 07.20.08 at 11:13 pm

Anyone else get an email from a Ted Melson regarding the Hillary’s debt and claiming Will Bower is a liar?

Not going to respond to him, but did read the article linked in the email. It claims 2.5 million was paid on Hillary’s debt in June. Also, there is 23 million in her general election fund she would like to use for 2012- the (senate) race.

Not sure how this make Will Bower a liar. Interesting. I do know a number of Hillary’s big donors also maxed on her general election fund.

#69 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:14 pm

michelle

Excellent! Good for you!! I admire you for doing that!
Just ask if you need to know something… someone here will know or get the answer for you.
WE GOT SKILLZ

#70 murphy on 07.20.08 at 11:15 pm

michelle 47 — very impressive. you’ll be a hacker before you know it.

actually, maybe then you can give me some uploading tips so MP and Trish and Dances will stop LAUGHING at me.

:-p

#71 SD4HRC on 07.20.08 at 11:16 pm

joannne thanks for that youtube vid ..the toughest lady in the world , and still is a winner in my mind.
its very sad.
them fraudsters stole it from her the DNC and the democratic party,I hope hillary will go independent,and get this country moving we are at a standstill and no leaders nodda,just crooked people who should not be elected
,ever to office again [pelosi ,kerry,BR,TK,reid dean, BO,all of them .we are getting deeper and deeper in debt ,the poor are way pooer,the middle class went to poor the uppermiddle class went to rightunder middleclass,we have no Congress nothing we need leaders who tell the truth,we need someone strong ,some one intelligent and it sure isnt any one except Hillary the woman is smart smarter than Bill,we would be on our way to get things done,and there is a chance i think she will take it and them superdelgates need to look at this flip floppper man named BHO.This man LIES LIES .Like Hillary says take this COUNTRY Back to US<She won the Popular vote they cannot make up the rules as they go along .I hope they go broke the DNC.Keep up the great work PUMA.
18++* million will not vote BHO

#72 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:16 pm

Dances, the really sad truth is that I am only 38, And I don’t live under a rock. Sheesh i really should know this computer business.

#73 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:16 pm

68 alohapuma

He’s probabaly looking at the numbers for June. Our major campaign to pay down Senator Clinton;s debt was in July. August will show more accurate results re: our campaign.

#74 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:18 pm

#70 Murphy
“michelle 47 — very impressive. you’ll be a hacker before you know it”

Now that I laughed at!

#75 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:18 pm

I think Ann Lewis being on FOX defending Barack tells me that Hillary will be letting her delegates go. I hope I’m wrong

#76 bellecat on 07.20.08 at 11:18 pm

oops! please take mine off too! :(

#77 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:19 pm

Murphy, Trust me if I learn some hacking skills I will be hacking the Hell out of proObama sites, I live for that day.

#78 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:19 pm

71 michelle47

You learn it as you need it. Don’t beat yourself over it, please.

#79 cspadafora on 07.20.08 at 11:20 pm

I did not know that all the candidates had to release their campaing fundraising numbers today before midnight. As usual, McCain and Hillary did it, but they are still waiting on Obama.
Thought I’d paste the numbers here for you. They were reported by AP just an hour ago.

Details of June presidential fundraising
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Total receipts to date: $242.7 million, including $23.4 million for general election
Total contributions to date: $212 million.
Total spending: $216.6 million.
June 2008 contributions: $2.7 million, including $105,000 for the general election.
June 2008 spending: $5.2 million
June 2008 loans: $1 million personal loan.
Cash on hand: $2.7 million for the primary and $23.4 million for the general election
Debt: $25.2 million, including $13.2 million in personal loans to her campaign.

#80 Asian4Hillary on 07.20.08 at 11:20 pm

Watching that video have strengthened my resolve NEVER to support DNC again. When they’ve railroaded Hillary, they have done it to me.

#81 Margenau on 07.20.08 at 11:20 pm

[Re-posted from downstairs]

ACTION QUESTION

Who is in charge of superdelegate research?

I have a spreadsheet listing all the uncommitted SDs, with as much contact info and other details as I could dig up over days of research. I made the list last month and updated it a couple of weeks ago. Now that we’re rebuilding the Action Center, I hope this can be of use. Let me know and I’ll e-mail it to you. Or e-mail me:
margenau08@gmail.com

#82 goandersen on 07.20.08 at 11:20 pm

74 rt4hill

why would you say that?

#83 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 11:22 pm

#66 Alohapuma

I did too, with a nasty message in the opening email to the article.

#84 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:22 pm

rtr4hill – Didn’t hear that – Gosh, I hope you are majorly wrong on that one…Met Ann Lewis when she was here for Ohio primary…..never thought she’d defend BO….
what did she say?

#85 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:23 pm

Dances computers may not be my forte, but I will be in Denver for the convention and I can and will kick some serious a$$ with a megaphone.

#86 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:23 pm

I just thought that ann lewis was a STRONG Hillary supporter and I don’t see why she would be on FOX defending Nobama if Hillary had any idea of staying in this race. She was the last one i would expect to see doing that

#87 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:26 pm

She is still on…They were talking about Nobamas trip earlier and she said he’s doing a good job and blah blah blah

#88 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:26 pm

Lorelai, I live in Toledo, if you don’t mind my asking where in Ohio are you?

#89 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:27 pm

rtr4Hill – she is a strong Hillary supporter and was the advisor to campaign – you may be right – but then again, there are strategies that we don’t know about going on behind the scenes…..I’m telling you, that’s why I don’t watch the news anymore – it makes me meshugina! (yiddush for crazy!)….
(I may not know computer language, but know my Yiddush from my grandparents! lol!)

#90 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:27 pm

“When they’ve railroaded Hillary, they have done it to me.”

And they’ve reinforced a message reagrding women…
NEVER ALLOW THEM WIN! IT’S OKAY TO TAKE THE INFERIOR MALE OVER THE SUPERIOR WOMAN! DON’T LET BRILLIANT WOMEN “EMASCULATE” US. PROTECT YOUR PEE-PEE AT ALL COSTS.

#91 TrishfromCanada on 07.20.08 at 11:27 pm

#70 murphy

awwwwwwwwww Murphy we were laughing with you … hehe snicker! lol now see you have me laughing all over again

#92 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:28 pm

Of course if you don’t want to listen to Ann you can always listen to Beckel…I am beginning to be ashamed I ever called myself a democrat

#93 goandersen on 07.20.08 at 11:29 pm

89 Dances

RFLMAO!!!

#94 TrishfromCanada on 07.20.08 at 11:29 pm

omg that kitten on top looks just like my peepers, except Peepers is bigger and only has one tooth and no tail but awww i love that picture.

Thank you for posting it Murphy

#95 kai on 07.20.08 at 11:29 pm

Thanks DancesWithPumas for the reply. I usually get on late at night when the 4 kids are in bed to read the Puma blogs and I must have missed that one. I rarely post but I try to read as much as I can because this is where I get my news since I don’t watch the bias MSM anymore. Murphy’s words about PA4Hill just got my attention that’s all. Will let it be.

#96 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:30 pm

Okay, I need someting constructive to do.

#97 TrishfromCanada on 07.20.08 at 11:30 pm

#63 StarDust

I sent you back an e-mail, you’re doing great with it :)

#98 Cat in NJ on 07.20.08 at 11:30 pm

Murphy, and/or whoever else is involved in the PUMA documentary … did you enlist the services of the video genius Flineo, best known from YouTube? (I don’t know if Flineo is an individual or an agency). As you know, Flineo produces some GREAT stuff!

#99 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:30 pm

Lorelai I think she also worked in the White House for the Clintons. I just think it’s fishy that she would be on Fox defending Obama when we haven’t had the convention yet. Jesus who’s left but us.

#100 Firebelle Puma on 07.20.08 at 11:31 pm

Friends, please don’t panic about what Hillary, Bill, or any of their supporters are doing. They have to play the unity game now for two reasons.

One, Hillary needs cooperation from other lawmakers if she’s going to be successful in fighting for us with healthcare and other causes she champions.

Two, if good fortune smiles on us and Hillary wins the nomination at the convention, she will need Obama’s supporters behind her too. She must begin mending fences now. Her surrogates must begin mending fences too. With luck, Obama will self-destruct, and his supporters will go to Hillary without much resistance. But Hillary, Bill, and their surrogates must pave the way.

Meanwhile, we’re doing what they cannot. We putting on the pressure from other directions. And they’re trusting us to fight the fight they can’t.

#101 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:31 pm

kai
All is well. check out our new and improved Action Center.

#102 goandersen on 07.20.08 at 11:32 pm

100 DancesWithPumas
Are the Squirrels still there?

#103 pa dem on 07.20.08 at 11:33 pm

Margenau: Email Trish with your info. She’s got the list.

#104 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:34 pm

Great point Firebelle – thanks for reminding us of that…

#105 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:34 pm

I agree that she needs cooperation from other lawmakers to pass her health care etc.. I am just saying that if she doesn’t want her name to be put in nomination she should say so. I have donated to her when my budget didnt allow it and I still will to pay off her debt. If she is going to support Obama then I will move on and work for Mccain thats all. I will never vote for Obama and at this point there isn’t a dem out there that will get my vote!

#106 1gypsy4mc on 07.20.08 at 11:35 pm

Hi buckeyes…Akron/Cancer
say, have been out for awhile..what video should we see? This place was so busy earlier that I couldn’t keep up. Video?

#107 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:35 pm

And let me just add I think Bob Beckel should take a long walk off a short bridge!

#108 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:37 pm

#104 rtr4hill, i have lost so much respect for the dems and it would be very hard for me to vote for any of them also…

#109 1gypsy4mc on 07.20.08 at 11:38 pm

Forgot to say – transplanted Texas

#110 Firebelle Puma on 07.20.08 at 11:39 pm

Dear Pumas,

I’ve posted this several times before, but here it is again for the new folks who need a little cheering up. Enjoy …

********************

To my fellow Pumas who mourn the show of unity Hillary must now provide, I offer this …

I like to look at this as though I were a fiction writer who understands that great stories demand great conflict. Great stories demand that the heroine be continually beset with seemingly insurmountable obstacles, each one bigger and tougher than the one before it, until finally it appears that all is lost. Then, and only then, can the writer allow the heroine to emerge victorious and provide the audience with the most delicious and satisfying ending possible.

This is still Act II, dear Pumas, not Act III. And in Act II, things must still get worse before they can get better. Our heroine Hillary fought valiantly during a difficult primary season, and yet she failed to secure the nomination. So now, the plot thickens. Now our heroine Hillary must do the heretofore unthinkable and infiltrate enemy territory. It’s a more daring and precarious plan that she has undertaken before, but her options are few.

Key to her success is convincing the evil Nobama and his ilk that she supports him wholeheartedly. But her loyal Pumas know better. So do our allies in other camps. It’s a ruse. It’s a diversion. It’s 18 million cracks in a glass ceiling through which we can slip in and attack. It is a brilliant plan, dear Pumas.

Like you, I fear for our heroine Hillary in the clutches of the evil Nobama. But we must remain brave and stalwart Pumas. We must do the things that our heroine Hillary cannot do now.

Sadly, not all of us can march on Denver. Not all of us have the resources to help pay down Hillary’s debt. Not all of us are gifted at writing letters and emails. But by pooling our energies and resources, we can do great things. Together, we are invincible.

#111 BigCatLover on 07.20.08 at 11:40 pm

Trish in Canada

did you see Margenau post about her list of superd’s?

#112 jenniforhillary on 07.20.08 at 11:40 pm

Firebelle Puma…

When she wins….god I love those words!!

#113 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:40 pm

Hey gypsy puma Buckeye, Toledo here.

#114 Asian4Hillary on 07.20.08 at 11:40 pm

rte4hill,

I am not voting for any Democratic candidate this November. If Hillary is not the nominee, my vote goes to McCain, in local levels I’d be voting for third party candidates. If we have to change the undemocratic system we have, we must start at the grassroots level. To get rid of corruption, you start from the bottom going up; its like killing a weed in your lawn, you take it out from its roots.

#115 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:42 pm

Gypsy Buckeye- Columbus here – go to post 29 for link to video…..
O-H-I-O!

#116 bruce55555 on 07.20.08 at 11:43 pm

I love that little cross-eyed kitten!!!
It looks like it needs some hugs and kisses!!!

A few of us are at the chat room, it’s fffuuuuuunnnn :-D

#117 rtr4hill on 07.20.08 at 11:43 pm

My mom is 81 and been a dem her whole life. Yesterday she said “Dont tell your dad but if Hillary isn’t on the ballot I will vote Mccain”

#118 bellecat on 07.20.08 at 11:44 pm

what squirrels? are some trolls around us?

by the by!
how are our stats?
how many new PUMAs, how are the numbers, etc.
I read that there are 160 sites pro HRC, nObama etc.

#119 SD4HRC on 07.20.08 at 11:44 pm

The only person who makes sense to me in Polictics is Hillary!!!!you can understand her words ,and explaining of things,for OUR Country.I have never believed anyone in politics except her.She is the TRUE winner ,and Anne lewis wonder what goes thru there minds you can see there uneasy and howard too even talking bout bho.
Then you have this BHO who goes uhhh uhh uhhh, and pelosi blinking , reid who blabs nothing for real, and dean doesnt watch cable what a lying sack.he would just scream.kerry is just full of it, we do not need these people i hope everyone who votes do not vote these people back in office.

#120 Cat in NJ on 07.20.08 at 11:44 pm

#99 Firebelle Puma
We can’t forget, HRC has had a powerful, successful 40-year career in the Democratic party … if there’s a complete invalidation by Hillary of Obama’s (fixed) nomination, that wonderful career is shot to hell, regardless of how many of us are behind her. I’ve read tidbits here and there of an idea of forming a NEW DEM party by 2010. Has anyone else read about this?

#121 Lorelai on 07.20.08 at 11:44 pm

Where’s the link to the chat room?

#122 TrishfromCanada on 07.20.08 at 11:45 pm

#110 BigCatLover

Yup Yup Ive already e-mailed her and she has sent it. Thank you. I’m cross referencing it to our database now.

#123 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:46 pm

101 goandersen

umm, yes, but the stash is secure.

#124 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:48 pm

Lorelai
#37

#125 CTKEY on 07.20.08 at 11:49 pm

Murphy…Listened to the radio show…Great work. We are all proud of you and what you have accomplished. Looking forward to what is to come next.

#126 michelle47 on 07.20.08 at 11:50 pm

Lorelai, the link is on the previous thread near the end, Kerri is the poster. Not good at pasting hope that helps you.

#127 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 07.20.08 at 11:51 pm

Seems no one’s immune to being dismissed:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/18/AR2008071802612.html

#128 Goalucard4Hill on 07.20.08 at 11:51 pm

#80 Margeneau – Send your spreadsheet to Trish – she is in charge of the superdelegates and perhaps you might have something on yours that she does not have yet.

Thanks for all your hard work – I know how much labor is involved in it.

#129 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:51 pm

124 michelle
it is also in this thread at #37

#130 Firebelle Puma on 07.20.08 at 11:51 pm

#118 Cat in NJ

For Hillary, it truly is all about us … the people she wants to serve. Her “career” is simply the vehicle through which she does it.

I’ve seen rumblings on this blog about a new party. But no point worrying about that until we’re past the convention and the elections. There will be plenty of time later, after we’ve taken care of Hillary for 2008.

#131 BigCatLover on 07.20.08 at 11:51 pm

Waht’s with the password protection on the 2 faces of Obama flyers. ABinNY is asking in the chat room

#132 RonniPUMA on 07.20.08 at 11:52 pm

murphy the same goes for me u are doing a great job dont get discouraged keep us going strong

and thanks again for getting me on line

#133 DancesWithPumas on 07.20.08 at 11:54 pm

125 notfollowinthepiedpiper
Move over, we have to make room under the bus for the foreign press

#134 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 11:55 pm

holy cow that chat thing is insane

#135 CTKEY on 07.20.08 at 11:56 pm

#131…Dances…This brings up a good point.. How big is this bus !! He is going to need a fleet the way he is going.

Sheesh…

#136 BigCatLover on 07.20.08 at 11:56 pm

Maryland

did you see the question in the chat room about the 2 posters/flyers in the action center taht are passwor protected?

#137 RonniPUMA on 07.20.08 at 11:57 pm

i just wonder why with all of the slips bo has made why wont some one really pick it up and run with it
theres enough to bury him but it doesnt stick tell me if anyone knows how he continues to get away with everything?
JOhn Mccain is a great man and hero hes just not my pick
who i really feel is right for our country is hillary

and i wont give up

#138 MadLogic on 07.20.08 at 11:57 pm

#132 Maryland PUMA & Murphy,
I’m heading out for the day. Maybe I’ll see the flier tomorrow. Have a good night :-D

#139 sandbag on 07.20.08 at 11:58 pm

I just completed today’s prowl. What a TERRIFIC letter that was!

I’m far from home right now, and only have computer access for a short time each day, so I have to prowl whenever I can . . .

Maybe I’ll hang out here for a bit. :)

#140 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:00 am

hey sandbag!

#141 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:00 am

Nite Mad Logic. Thanks again for the help!

#142 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:00 am

129 BigCatLover

Honestly? I really really really hope we don’t start doing that goofy carrier pigeon dance between the chatroom and the blog… “he wanted to know, then she said, so I said, but now he’s asking, so i’m asking, and then when I tell them should i also tell you” stuff.

#143 SD4HRC on 07.21.08 at 12:02 am

how do i get out of moderation..lol…that is what it says underneath my post

#144 wontbackdown on 07.21.08 at 12:02 am

#132 Maryland PUMA… Do you know if Murphy still up?

Do you know how long you are going to be on here, tonight?

#145 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 12:03 am

The video sort of blew my brother’s philosophy right out the window – Show me your friends and I’ll tell you your future!!

Is the Squirrel thing a joke? Maybe about Dean/Pelosi/Braszile? I didn’t go to the link..every time I leave for one of the url’s I have to find where I left off.

#146 bellecat on 07.21.08 at 12:03 am

ok. I was in the Atlas Srugg site and the latest on BO’s bc.

am I the only nuts? how come nobody is asking him to just come forward with the gd piece of paper and verify if its authentic or not?
has anybody brought up this issue to the DNC, SD etc.?

I don’t know, I feel lost on this one…:(

#147 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:03 am

I need something constructive to do.

#148 wontbackdown on 07.21.08 at 12:04 am

#139 Maryland PUMA… I have a sneak preview, but I am going to have to either take screen shots of it for your previews or load it onto my server (which I have to unload my stuff).

#149 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:05 am

#132 MarylandPuma
I don’t like that chat client.

#150 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 12:07 am

#39 tillerylakelady

Ed Hale is a smear monger who is not above telling untruths in an effort to start and spread rumors.

I wouldn’t trust his “sources.”

#151 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:07 am

It’s freakin nuts DWP

#152 BigCatLover on 07.21.08 at 12:08 am

KissieCake

you got kicked out accidently. come back to the chat room and sign in again

#153 wontbackdown on 07.21.08 at 12:09 am

#148 Maryland PUMA … did you see my posts #141 & 145?

#154 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:09 am

#141 WBD

I’ll be on for about another 15 min.

What you got that I should peek at?

#155 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:09 am

143 bellecat
If Obama become the nominee (doubtful) he’ll chose Edwards as VP running mate. Then McCain et al will hopefully force the issue. Obama steps down, Edwards becomes President.

People have been writing re: bc (birth cert) to no avail apaprently. NQ has been on this for weeks… no movement except that the expert says the bc posted at Obama’s website, and the doctored one posted at Kos are forgeries.

#156 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:09 am

wow that chat room moves fast…i’m not an old woman but i think i’m too old for that!

#157 BigCatLover on 07.21.08 at 12:10 am

Loralei come back to the chat room

#158 Margenau on 07.21.08 at 12:10 am

ACTION ALERT

See this article by Clinton superdelegate Vicky Harwell (Tennessee) from last Wednesday:
http://www.gilesnews.us/Stories/080716Superdelegate%27sStoryPart2.html
In particular, look at the last four paragraphs.

I think we should all contact her to get her on board with PUMA activities:
vharwell@igiles.net

#159 Lorelai on 07.21.08 at 12:10 am

I flunked Chat Room 101….maybe tomorrow..too tired tonight…..night everyone. Have to get up early for Monday morning meeting.

#160 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:10 am

147 NotFallingInLine
I wouldn’t trust him either. Did you see those two videos he emailed out today?

#161 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:10 am

148 Maryland PUMA
If anything we should have gone with addonchat.
Kerri’s is too dark and busy.

#162 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:11 am

RonniPUMA

Nice to see you here!

#163 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:11 am

night Lorelai

#164 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 12:11 am

Margenau,

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR SENDING JERRY LEE’S CONTACT INFO! I will send a polite email to him.

If you have any suggestions for the email I will send, please let me know. I won’t send it for a couple of days until I’m very happy with it!

Thanks again.

#165 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:12 am

“Loralei come back to the chat room”
Now the games begin.

#166 wontbackdown on 07.21.08 at 12:12 am

#151 Maryland PUMA… I built a new Action Center Website. I thinks its kickin! But I have to either load it on a server or just take screen shots and send them to you two.

It won’t be near as cool in still shots.

But I think I wll just load it into a directory on my server… after I take a break and eat something.

There is a lot to it and I still need to hook some pages up. I thought I would be through with the architecture earlier, but I decided to go ahead with more pages.

#167 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:13 am

night lorelai

#168 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:13 am

When walking, just walk.
When sitting, just sit.
Above all else, don’t waddle.

#169 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 12:13 am

Maryland PUMA,

I am sorry about yesterday. I think that I wasn’t understanding you because of a miscommunication.

#170 cosmeta on 07.21.08 at 12:13 am

#13 Maryland PUMA on 07.20.08 at 10:18 pm

***** DRUMROLL PLEASE *********

[[ Mad Logic and I tag teamed a new poster: ]]

Since you are missing the fake money, think the other day DancesWithPumas said they have it download. Right #14

#171 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:14 am

Good night MADLOGIC – thanks for helping me out and standing up for me today – have a good night – see you tomorrow I hope.

#172 wontbackdown on 07.21.08 at 12:14 am

I need to take a break, but I had told Murphy (email) that I would send something to her earlier… Just didn’t get throught with some of the bells and whistles that really make it sing.

#173 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:15 am

goanderson,
Thanks again for posting the link for that petition. Got an email from the Portland party hostess I sent the link to this morning & she shared forwarded it to all her guests.

To all the Virgo’s (including Sandipuma) great posters, you are! I have always liked Virgos (“some of my best friends are Virgo’s, haha). I’m a Capricorn so we earth signs are quite compatible.

#174 Margenau on 07.21.08 at 12:15 am

No problem, NFIL.
Too tired tonight to think about e-mails, but I’ll let you know when I have ideas.

#175 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:15 am

DWP ahhh yep.

#176 joeysky on 07.21.08 at 12:15 am

Murphy, we should change our tactic from email to sending postcard/snail mail to SuperDelegate. It might create a new angle of attack. They will have a physical letter in their hands, with our hand writing. They might find it more gripping.

#177 Lorelai on 07.21.08 at 12:16 am

I did try one more time – too tired – good night everyone and thanks for your support!
And remember- TANDQ – THERE ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS!

#178 SouthJerseyPUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:16 am

Hello PUMA’s~ hope everyone is well~

#179 matt2008A on 07.21.08 at 12:16 am

Speaking of running mates. BO should pick Kerry, they are both perfect for each other and they can lose together.

#180 joeysky on 07.21.08 at 12:17 am

I forgot to add that we don’t abandon email. But we just mix thing up a bit.

#181 BigCatLover on 07.21.08 at 12:17 am

#156 Lorelai

chat room moves really fast but easy once you get logged in with your real name

#182 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:18 am

Today’s Daily Prowl

(sorry I can never remember the right label)

Yes I did my homework & sent my 2 emails and enjoyed it. I put “from a lifelong democrat” in the subject heading (along w/the PUMA line) hoping they’ll read the whole thing..

#183 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:18 am

175 matt2008A

I think he should chose Pelosi, then we can watch and listen to the blink uh,uh, blink, blink, uh uh, blink

#184 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:19 am

cosmeta
the faux money had a breach of confidentiality contained in it. My own fault.

I requested that Murphy / Maryland remove it, which they did. I supplied a sanitized version for uploading, that, i suspect, will be uploaded at some point, if PUMApac still wants to use it.

Meanwhile, if you, or anyone else, is using the old original version, I’d appreciate it if you would desist. Thanks.

#185 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:19 am

Cosmeta

LOL.. Growing pains

#186 Margenau on 07.21.08 at 12:19 am

Haha, what is with the astrology obsession today?
I’m a Virgo… (Don’t want to miss out on hillstheone’s compliment.)

#187 CTKEY on 07.21.08 at 12:20 am

#29….Thank you for posting this video…I have no words on this one. I usually have something to say, but this speaks for itself.

#188 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:20 am

I think that Precious will pick Ms. Kennedy as his VP – he will think that will satisfy the women – the Catholics – the family name and honor – anyone want to make a bet??

#189 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:21 am

I don’t think I like that chat thing. It’s just as confusing as the blog except it’s a pain to scroll up cause the comments come faster than you can scroll.

#190 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:21 am

184 Drac

He still won’t get my vote.

#191 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:22 am

185 Maryland Puma
My eyes are already crossed from the work Trish made me do today!

#192 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:22 am

Or mine GoRodhamAndersen

#193 veritas09 on 07.21.08 at 12:23 am

ElyLosAngeles
please add another aquarian to the list
Thx

#194 wontbackdown on 07.21.08 at 12:23 am

#172 Maryland PUMA… I’ll just load it up on my server so you guys can see it.

I’ll email you the link when I get it up. I have to take some of my stuff off because they bothe have flash on the “index” page and they conflict with each other.

Talk to you tomorrow and see what you think.

Chat on…

#195 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:24 am

TOPIC: For those who stay home

I’m going to Denver, however, I got this email from the Portland woman (Wesley College grad), thought I’d post it here & let all you smart PUMA brains give it some thought! ;D

~ ~ ~

“Do know that many of us (myself included) will be here during the convention, so we will be trying to “mirror” the events in Denver in our home towns. We need to do something “magic” AND MAJOR on the 26th of August. I’m open to suggestions regarding what we do.”

~ ~ ~

Some ideas:
* light a candle (real or online)?
* Host “Convention watching” parties?
* Do a prayer / meditation / affirmation / whatever you like moment at the same time of day (noon Central Time on the 26th?)

If we come up w/an idea or ideas we all like, I will pass it along to her, thanks.

#196 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:24 am

188 Drac
Did you get your puter cleaned up?

#197 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:24 am

Goalucard4Hill

I dunno….for all the carping they did about Hillary’s ‘experience’ they can’t possibly thing that Caroline can firm up his weak resume.

I see McCain going for Condi. Wait and see.

#198 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:25 am

MarylandPuma
Chat is fun once the room finds its pace, but it really is just “chat” as in chit chat because you have to express yourself in 89 characters (counting spaces) or less.

But, that xat chat application sucks in and of itself.

#199 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:26 am

#190 – WBD

Awesome. I look forward to it.

#200 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:26 am

193 Drac

Oh, I hope not! I can’t stand that woman! I will have to vote a 3rd party!

#201 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:27 am

Maryland-

I agree…way I see it, if he picks condi he can’t lose…it will give him “conservative” street cred!

#202 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 07.21.08 at 12:27 am

#142 1gypsy4mc
“every time I leave for one of the url’s I have to find where I left off.”

Have you tried just right clicking on the link? It will give you the option of opening the link in a new window. Then you’re finished there you can just close that window and take up where you left off in the original window.

#203 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:27 am

191 hillstheone
I think they’re holding a full blown march and demonstration in SFO. Then again, that’s SFO, where almost everything they do is done right.

#204 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:28 am

MarylandPuma – I think he would possibly be wise by picking Condi but she has constantly said she is not interested -

Yes, thank you Goandersen – with the help of Maryland Puma and Madlogic – of course – got my head bitten off by others for taking up so much time on this blog by doing so – all it did was help me find another dozen superdelegate information – so I think that is no small factor – although something is still strange acting with Google research – just using other search engines instead.

#205 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:28 am

If Hillary is not POTUS, I am leaving the country. There won’t be much left of it anyway.

#206 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:28 am

Anyone seen antifish tonight? She’s always on at this time.

#207 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:30 am

Goalucard

I’ll take that bet: Ms. Kennedy as his VP
No way!

#208 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:30 am

To No One in Particular

So I just realized, a week from today I’ll be enroute to Victoria, BC, for much-needed week’s vacation w/my 2 daughters.

Meaning, I need to finalize these Denver plans this week.

I’m leaning towards taking the bus, a carpool, or train down there, and flying back so I don’t have to miss more than 3-4 days work.

I am really WISHING for some definite info this week so I can get it all put-to-rest before I am on the road & computer-less…

#209 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:31 am

DWP – what will the bet be – if he doesn’t then I owe you my old record player – you know the one with the dog sitting in front of it while the record spins around LOL

#210 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:31 am

DanceswithPUMAS: WOW! That is fantastic!
More cities need to follow suit…Go Hillary!!!!!

#211 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:31 am

antifish is over in the chat room

#212 antifish on 07.21.08 at 12:32 am

Maryland,

I’m here.

#213 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:33 am

Hillstheone – guess I am one of the anybody’s here – I have no idea – Maryland Puma would be the best person to answer that question –

Now that we have two sites going – its going to be nearly impossible to know who is where -

#214 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:33 am

205 Goalucard4Hill
The RCA dog? Sure, I’d be glad to have it. Will hold onto until the next antiques roadshow comes to town!
Sometimes I;m a good sport, so in this case, I’ll give you 10% of the thousands that’s gotta be worth!

#215 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:33 am

#197 Queen

Yep, and he trumps the Dems in race and gender.

I’ve said this since my Poli Sci class in the spring. I also think HRC will get the nod and OB will get VP OR Edwards or Gore will get thrown into the mix. Gore will not stick his neck out there again without a sure win.

That was fun, I was the only HRC supporter in my entire class. All the younguns hated her but I have yet to figure out why.

#216 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 12:34 am

#187 goandersen

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

#217 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:34 am

Only chat room you will get me on are those naughty ones for seniors over 80 – LOL :) :) :) :)

#218 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:34 am

I was missin my antifish!

#219 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:34 am

TOPIC: DENVER

Anybody see the poster thinking about taking a train down to Denver? I think that sounds fun!

Anyway if you’re in Oregon or California & are thinking about driving & want someone to help pay for gas, or are taking the train down to Denver and are looking for other PUMA’s to party with on the way down, please post here, I’ll check back later!

#220 antifish on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

I was checking out the chat room. It’s great. When I went to sign in I ended up in someone else’s chat somehow. I felt like I was lost in space.

#221 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

maryland-

never go that either- she has a much better plan to help with student debt…difference of $24,000!

#222 bruce55555 on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

Good night all, just came back from the chatroom, what can I say, this energized me for more full speed ahead type work tomorrow!

Murphy thank you and all Pumas thank you I’m honored to a part of this noble cause.

#223 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

212 TrishfromCanada

Just kidding. :D

#224 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

Why do we have a chat room and a blog?? I undestand a chat room when something is happening like a radio show, but otherwise it seems like spinning wheels.

#225 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

Goalucard4Hill

Q – what do you mean, 2 sites?
Are you talking about 18 million or another one..?

#226 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

213 Goalucard4Hill

Well, that certainly narrows it down

#227 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

good night bruce!

#228 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

Well DWP – the rest of the bet is that I come with it – so you can take care of me as well as the dog……

Maryland Puma I hope you are right with your thoughts about Hillary getting the nod – -

#229 sandbag on 07.21.08 at 12:35 am

I’m trying very hard to remember how I actually became a PUMA. It seems like it was so long ago . . .

I remember that I was very upset with the DNC about Florida and Michigan. I just couldn’t believe what was happening, and I kept sending out emails to everyone I could think of. The VOTERS there had no control over when their primaries were held. They had no choice but to vote on the day that their polls were open. They left work, they hired sitters, they gave rides to the elderly and all things that it takes to have a successful primary. If the DNC was so hellbent on punishing someone, it certainly should NOT have been the voters. They took people’s votes away from them for having the audacity to vote on the day that their polls were open . . . . UNbelievable!

Anyway, I was SO upset about this and I kept trying to post on Hillary’s site. Someone there must not have liked what I had to say, because none of my posts went through . . . ever. As I recall, I heard someone on Hillary’s site . . . I can’t remember who . . . say that if her site should close down, we should all try to stay together. Shortly afterward, someone mentioned something called PUMA that might be starting up.

Thank goodness, because the feeling of disenfranchisement was so intense, I felt like I had nowhere else to go. I’ve been fighting Republicans for most of my life and then my own party goes and pulls something like this. What a slap in the face this has been.

The DNC and the Democratic party owes PUMA a huge debt of gratitude, even if they are too short-sighted to see it now. Standing up for what is right is always the best course of action.

#230 antifish on 07.21.08 at 12:36 am

#213 Goalucard!

(blushing) LOL!

#231 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:36 am

220 alohapuma
I think it was to keep the ridiculousness in one place.

#232 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:36 am

#204 Hillstheone

You may want to scope out the Denver Group. We are partnering with them too and they be farther along in their plans than we are or have more definite schedule as this is their only fundraising venture.

No One In Particular :)

#233 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:36 am

Hillstheone – the chat room that has been set up for some of the people here -

#234 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:37 am

215 Hillstheone

I am in No. CA and want to share the road or the train with some pumas! We could take over a couple of train cars!

#235 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:37 am

224 Goalucard4Hill
It would be my honor.

#236 veritas09 on 07.21.08 at 12:37 am

Goalucard4hill
the name of Sarah Palin (R) Alaska has been brought up for VP.
Alaska HUm. Her Husband works for BP.

#237 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:37 am

#225 Sandbag

Ditto that story and the sentiment. :)

#238 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:37 am

Maryland PUMA – good idea! I’ll take a look.

Goalucard4Hill: Not that I have time tonight, but where is the chat room?

#239 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:38 am

Repost of my growl today. Goodnight my friends.

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Subject: Fatique and Irritation

Dear Mr. Fowler and Ms. Germond:

The text below is my answer to your feelings of fatigue and irritation.

One Voice

The man stood at his hand-carved writing desk, contemplating the empty parchment in front of him. On this parchment he had agreed to write a proclamation to be delivered to the King, his courtiers, and officers. The man understood the words he put forth on the canvas before him would forever alter his existence in the world.

He was jeopardizing everything he owned and held sacred. The beautiful estate he designed and furnished with artifacts from the world over, the gardens he had tended and nurtured would surely be confiscated. His servants would soon be cast out without the work they needed to survive. His beloved wife and children would relinquish the comforts they had always known.

Clearly by writing this document, he risked being imprisoned or hung from the gallows. He would be publicly humiliated in front of his wife and his children and all of the community that now looked upon him as a man of high position. His wife would take to working in the households of the nobles, provided they would take her at all. His children’s future would be horribly altered; his daughters left with few prospects to marry and his sons left to labor instead of leading the privileged life of a gentleman in his society. Indeed, once he finished putting ink to this parchment, his life as he knew it would end.

When he had put down but a few words, he was compelled to stop. He had called the King a Tyrant. Had he gone mad for provoking what would be a vehement and deadly response? Then as though he had been possessed, the words inspired by other voices of dissent, came so rapidly his hands could hardly keep pace with his mind. His rage at the autocracy and financial oppression that had taken a stranglehold over his country, the compounding insults to dignity and honor, spilled forth not just from the brilliance of his mind, but from the depth his soul.

Once complete, the man rolled the parchment covered with the black ink, returned his pen to the blue crystal ink holder given to him by his beloved father, and left his sanctuary. Crossing the threshold of his room, he knew each day henceforth would be unlike any he had lived before. The four others, who had selected him to draft the document, signed their names and it was delivered to the Congress.

One voice became stronger as each member, risking the same fate, signed it. One voice was now the voice of many. This one voice became the flashpoint that brought the downfall of tyranny in his land. His proclamation brought forth a new Constitution and new form of government; a government, of the people, by the people, and for the people.

This one voice is heard three centuries later as the proclamation of the Divine Right of the Individual for Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

This one voice proclaimed a Declaration of Independence.

This one voice will not be silenced.

#240 Anna7000 on 07.21.08 at 12:38 am

Anyone interested in contacting the AP regarding their disinformation in the first sentence, here’s a link to an article just posted tonight. When will the press stop calling Obama the nominee???!!**

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080721/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_money

PUMA in exile

#241 Margenau on 07.21.08 at 12:38 am

Maryland and queen81:

Never assume that the “youth” are the least bit informed… BO was something trendy for them, like skinny jeans.

#242 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:38 am

OK – I am gone for the night – have 4 more super delegates to try and find and they are the most difficult ones – will be travelling all day tomorrow but back with you again on Tuesday – Good Night John Boy.

#243 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:39 am

goanderson: OK, that sounds good to me!
I say let’s do it, & maybe (probably) we’ll be more comfortable than on the bus…

alohapuma: Are you in?!!

#244 matt2008A on 07.21.08 at 12:39 am

I hope McCain picks someone good for vp (if Hillary is not the nominee) This could really help McCain trounce BO in the GE. Who do you think he will pick?

#245 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:39 am

goanderson,

I don’t know if you got my post last night. I’m coming from Oregon. The train is an interesting idea.

#246 Firebelle Puma on 07.21.08 at 12:39 am

#225 sandbag

You were not alone in being unable to post at Hillary’s web site. I doubt that 2% of my posts ever got through. I repeatedly complained and even said I wouldn’t donate anymore until I got to participate in the blog. I guess Hillary’s staff didn’t want my donations that badly.

#247 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:39 am

#220 Aloha

I think I’m with you. I fear this will splinter the group and the ‘fun’ of it will distract us.

I guess we’ll see – I’m stickin to the blog. At least here I can backtrack.

#248 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:41 am

GoAlucard

Night – thanks for your hard work tonight. We appreciate you! MWAH!

#249 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:41 am

239 Hilltheone
Where are you? We could all meet up at a central place and then board the train. What a hoot!

#250 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:41 am

((((((((((((((((Night DRAC))))))))))))))

#251 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:41 am

goanderson: Just remember the amtrack usually runs 10, sometimes 12 hours late, so best to allow for that w/our ETA to Denver. Still, “sometimes” it can be fairly on-time, and the idea of being able to walk around & visit & such appeals to me.

#252 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

Just wanted to say hello and say, i checked that chat room, and it is tooooo fast for me!!

#253 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

225 sandbag

“Anyway, I was SO upset about this and I kept trying to post on Hillary’s site. Someone there must not have liked what I had to say, because none of my posts went through . . . ever. As I recall, I heard someone on Hillary’s site . . . I can’t remember who . . . say that if her site should close down, we should all try to stay together. Shortly afterward, someone mentioned something called PUMA that might be starting up.”

Same here! I was at Hillary’s site for weeks and none of my posts went through. I still typed my comments though! And then when it was transitioning someone mentioned a site, so I goofgled it and arrived at Riverdaughter’s. That was the day they came up with PUMA, and then someone mentioned Murphy and I came here. It’s all a blur though… like being sucked through space by some huge vacuum and landing here.

#254 Goalucard4Hill on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

SEE I looked up to see the screen before I left and now I have a bunch to acknowledge – you are TOOOO SWEET DWP

Hillstheone – I have no idea how you get to the chat room – Antifish can you tell her -

Veritas 09 – never heard of that person before from Alaska.

Not going to read any posts – really am out of here to finish my project —– You Pumas Rock – You Pumas are Awesome and why are you in Exile Anna7000

#255 bruce55555 on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

64 DancesWithPumas,

Thank you! :-D

#256 tillerylakelady on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

#147 http://www.notfallinginline.org
thanks for the tip. so do ya think we can trust anything that ED says? I go to his site a lot to get info

#257 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

goanderson: I’m in Eugene/Springfield area of Oregon. But I can easily drive down to N Cal & board the train there or leave from here or whatever works.

#258 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

247 hilltheone
It does? Well, I thought about leaving on the 23rd anyway.

#259 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

Anne 7000

YES!! I posted on this a bit ago. I got an email from a Ted Melson pointing to this story and calling Will Bower a liar!

What are you suggesting?

#260 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:42 am

#237 Margenau

This I know. My whole class was traditional college kids and this 39 year old stuck right in the middle of em.

Sometimes my teacher and I would roll our eyes or exchange looks when their youth came out of their mouths.

#261 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:43 am

007 girl: Are you in Oregon, too?

#262 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:44 am

goanderson: Sounds good. I’m still working to clear my schedule for Denver, but I like the idea.

#263 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:44 am

Margenau

I certainly don’t think the youth are that informed however, by definition I should have been all about this guy. i’m 27, hold advanced degrees, have that above average income, yet I never fell for the crap. i was for Hill from the beginning. My original impression of him was that he might make a decent president in 8 years…obviously as time has gone on, i don’t think he’d ever be qualified to run the country.

#264 mzebest on 07.21.08 at 12:44 am

hebrew.que.

If you’re out there — I would like to say that I saw your post on previous page about feeling invisible. Trust me, that happens to everyone.

I often see many in this blog who tend to get their feelings hurt if no one responds directly to something that is written. So I would like to state for everyone, that they need to come to this blog, voice their thoughts. All opinions are welcomed and you’d be surprise at how many comments are read and heard. But as many also point out, everyone also needs to expect that there may or may not be instant gratification or verification that the post is acknowledged. If you can put aside that expectation, and realize that all contributions have value, then you’d be surprised at how many do appreciate the the thoughts from everyone here (whether or not it is formally expressed or acknowledged).

For example, I have to work from home on the weekends and have deadlines to keep, so I don’t have time to always post. I’m just lurking throughout the day to keep up with the events of the day. But I still read through everything, and as you can see, I even read your post hebrew.que, evident as I am now mentioning it here.

Forgive the long winded post. My point is — I hope you won’t be discouraged from posting again. I love seeing your posts. I love seeing everyone’s postings. The seeds for ideas can come from the simplests statements sometimes. :-)

As a side note… the accumulative effect of every post (large or small) helps to formulate a conversation and a sense of community. Every post helps us to envision the personality behind the messages. I think we have a vast variety of personalities in this community but what I find amazing is that the collective personality is equally amazing and beautiful. That’s why I find myself drawn to this forum every single day… and it’s hard to tear myself away… even when I have to work for a living. :-)

#265 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:45 am

I am in So cali

#266 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:45 am

Can we Oregonians and Washingtonians do a meet up site or something to connect?

#267 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:45 am

goanderson: The 23rd sounds about right. From here I think it leaves in the afternoon.

#268 matt2008A on 07.21.08 at 12:45 am

I can’t go to Denver (not old enough to reserve a hotel room) so good luck and have fun……Ill be cheering you on, while packing for college.

#269 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:47 am

257 hillstheone
258 alohapuma
248 007 girl
We would need to find a train station that all of us could meet up at. Maybe a halfway point or something.

#270 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:48 am

Matt-

you should try to hook up with a group old enough to book a room! where in you’re in GA right!

#271 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:48 am

264 matt2008A
just room with someone else!!!

#272 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:48 am

alohapuma: Meetup sounds good to me.
My problem is time constraints to set things up cause I commute to work, am basically gone 12 hrs a day, hard to find time to set up a meetup! I don’t think it’s too hard to do, though.
Maybe a conference call is easier, and I was wondering if maybe mamapuma might be able to give us each other’s phone #’s or something. Conference call might be fun.

#273 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:48 am

sorry matt I meant are you in GA?

#274 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:49 am

goandersen…i would love to go but i need when will we leave and when will we get home!!!

#275 SouthJerseyPUMA on 07.21.08 at 12:49 am

how long does it take for this~

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

it said the same thing last night..

#276 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:49 am

268 hillstheone
That would be fine with me.
There has to be more pumas in CA and OR that would be up for this.

#277 matt2008A on 07.21.08 at 12:49 am

Yes I’m in GA.

#278 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:50 am

goanderson

Berkley (or the one close to there, the name is slipping right now) is probably the best meeting place. I think we should take details off the blog though.

#279 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 12:50 am

Geology 101
I think it is Gov Palin – she said she is suing the committee that said the Polar Bears were an endangered species – I think it was called something else….She wants to use all of the Alaska resources. I lived there for 3 years and it is loaded with oil, coal, etc. You can go to the coast and “pick up coal” on the beaches…hello?? They have minerals and gold, etc. The state never wanted more exploration in there until recently. Whatever you want is there. Alaska is unlimited in resources. Unfortunately it is also affected by earthquakes and has some “dormant” volcanoes. And the farther north you get, the colder it gets.

#280 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:50 am

goanderson & alohapuma & whoever else:
I need to log off right now but I’ll check back the continued discussion tomorrow morning!
And we can also continue discussion tomorrow night.

p.s. Did anyone laugh at my Full Moon Puma log off the other night?

It was from a children’s book called ‘Goodnight Moon.”

“Good night comb, good night brush, good night to the old woman punding the Rules Committee gavel and yelling HUSH!!” ;D ;D

#281 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:50 am

maybe you could even hitch a ride with some south east pumas

#282 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:50 am

270 007 girl
Well it takes a day and a half to get there and the same back. I figure leave on the 23rd and return on the 29th.

#283 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:51 am

sorry i 4got my damn comma’s in my previous comment!!!

#284 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:51 am

hillstheone…I didn’t see it…but way cute!

#285 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:52 am

275 hillstheone

Night. We will pick it up tomorrow. I need to get some plans in place soon.

#286 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 12:52 am

007

LOL…it’s ok about the commas!

#287 hillstheone on 07.21.08 at 12:52 am

007 girl – let’s get it figured out! ;D

OK I am really going now, so nite-nite!

#288 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:52 am

that’s if we take the train??

#289 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:52 am

278 007
I put them in for you! lol

#290 Margenau on 07.21.08 at 12:53 am

#256 Maryland and #259 queen

I’m a 20-yr-old college student and I’ve been underwhelmed with BO since I first heard him open his mouth.

#291 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:53 am

283 007 girl
yes, or return on the 28th and get back here on the 29th.

#292 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:54 am

283 007 girl
we could also drive. If there is enough of us, the gas would be doable.

#293 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 12:54 am

#252 tillerylakelady,

I worked with him for a while. My experience in dealing with him was not good in several ways and, frankly, I can’t say that I trust him at all.

#294 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:54 am

We should do a conference call. Let’s do an off blog email with a call-in #, time and date.

#295 matt2008A on 07.21.08 at 12:54 am

I know antifish is from GA, I do not know if there is anyone else.

#296 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:54 am

damn that would be impossible to get all that time off from work.

#297 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:55 am

273 alohapuma

right. I forgot.

#298 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:56 am

goandersen, I checked one nite to see how long it would take me from so. cali ….14hrs

#299 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:56 am

289 alohapuma
I’m game. We can all give our numbers to maryland or murphy

#300 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 12:57 am

273 alohapuma
Emeryville?

#301 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:57 am

293 oo7 girl
less if there are more drivers

#302 007girl on 07.21.08 at 12:57 am

i basically wanted to try to pull off a 4 day trip

#303 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:57 am

273 alohapuma

Sacramento

#304 sandbag on 07.21.08 at 12:57 am

#242 Firebelle Puma &
#249 DancesWithPumas

It IS a blur . . . that’s what got me thinking about how we all ended up here.

I’m glad to hear I wasn’t the only one who couldn’t post. It really bothered me at the time. I kept on commenting though, and they would appear to go through, but never show up. It was disconcerting as I was there to support Hillary. And yet, others seemed to be able to post repeatedly. I never did figure out why that was the case, even though I had donated several times. ???

#305 matt2008A on 07.21.08 at 12:58 am

Goodnight Pumas

#306 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 12:58 am

#232 veritas09

That was more gossip than fact. Some of Bo’s people visited with her which started a long trail of rumours. I seriously doubt he’ll ask her, she’s got more spine than he’ll ever have.

#307 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:58 am

297 007girl
the convention is 4 days though. I am not working , so I know it can be tough for some to get away.

#308 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 12:59 am

Night Matt

#309 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 12:59 am

goanderson

I can give Murphy and Maryland a conference call-in number with a passcode. That way we each call in to a conference line from our own numbers.

#310 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 12:59 am

#288 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
#252 tillerylakelady
We donated $$ too…….now I’m here.

#311 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:00 am

299 sandbag
I had to keep refreshing the page after each post. Sometimes repeatedly.

#312 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:01 am

goodnight matt

#313 antifish on 07.21.08 at 1:01 am

I couldn’t post at HRC either. I was able to to until just after the New Hampshire primary. After that, I think I was able to post twice. It was super frustrating. I emailed the site over and over, but they ignored me.

#314 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:01 am

304 alohapuma
Great! Then we can get this set up. I’m excited! Let’s do it!

#315 Anna7000 on 07.21.08 at 1:02 am

#255 ALOHAPUMA

Sorry I didn’t see your post and wound up reposting info. What’s Melson and Bower got to do with it? (Sorry for being thick.)

I just e-mailed the AP to let them know they should report things accurately and that neither of the Democratic candidates have secured the nomination since neither has enough pledged delegates and that to refer to Obama as having secured the nomination is inaccurate language and sloppy reporting.

PUMA in exile

#316 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:02 am

i wish i could get more time off,but i can’t !!!

#317 Firebelle Puma on 07.21.08 at 1:02 am

#299 sandbag

You were definitely not alone. I think there were many, many people who had trouble and got discouraged. Even some of the regulars sometimes had problems, although it didn’t seem that way to those of us who were left out completely.

But it sure makes me appreciate what a great job Murphy is doing and the fact that we can blog so easily here.

#318 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:02 am

308 anti rodham
I will email you soon.

#319 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:02 am

#305 1gypsy4mc,

You donated money to help run the ad in the Chicago Sun-Times? He said he refunded all that money. I’m guessing he was untruthful (i.e. lied) about that too…

#320 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:03 am

Sacramento would work. That would be better actually. I was thinking the east bay station, but Sacramento would be better for those coming from OR

#321 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:03 am

Antifish, I couldn’t post at HRC site either…. i learned about this site from their though !!

#322 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 1:04 am

#285 Margenau

I’m glad to hear that. My classmates could not list one reason why they did not like HRC that held water – they all had to do with her voice or her pantsuits or Monicagate or some such nonsense. I got into a huge argument with them over the private life of a President – it was UGLY.

Thankfully, one of our last classes was to debate the candidates. I was able to make several stop and think, especially on health care.

#323 veritas09 on 07.21.08 at 1:05 am

#301Trish from awsome Canada
I actually think mcCain Short list; I also hope so. She is young Governor (R) with an interesting resume.

#324 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:05 am

315 alohapuma

I think that is more fair to the ones coming from OR, especially if we drive.

#325 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 1:05 am

#285 Margenau

So happy to hear that you are an educated youth!

#326 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:06 am

BRB

#327 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:06 am

Anne7000

I have no idea who Mr. Melson is our how he got my e-mail address. He sent me an e-mail linking this same article with an opening line stating Will Bower is a liar.

I will send the AP my protest.

#328 sandbag on 07.21.08 at 1:08 am

#312 Firebelle Puma

“. . . But it sure makes me appreciate what a great job Murphy is doing and the fact that we can blog so easily here.”

I’ll raise my mug of tea and second that!!! :)

#329 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 1:08 am

http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
We sent checks, which were not sent back, but they were not cashed either. Said to put it towards a project and they were cashed in a couple of days. Also paid some $$ PayPal for the site. You would think at my age, I would know better. But there are members here that still go over there.

#330 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:08 am

oops i mean “there” !!!

#331 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:08 am

#318 veritas09

I think McCain will ask Condi and she will accept

I think Bo is going to have to look outside the current party, no one there wants to be his VP, they run like hell when he asks, he’ll end up choosing Mo, she’ll be the only one willing to accept it.

#332 diva2 on 07.21.08 at 1:09 am

Need some information in Spanish

I have several hispanic men landscaping my yard this week. The owner is hispanic and said he has alot of people working for him. I would love to be able to hand out information that they could take home to their families. Not sure if they all speak English so I want to be prepared. Just want to convey that Senator Clinton still is a viable candidate, some issues with *61 and ask that they spread the word and if any of them are politically active, to be able to contact their local delegates to vote for Senator Clinton in Denver. If we have one in English and Spanish, would like both.

Thank you to anyone who can provide a resource!

#333 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:09 am

324 1gypsy4mc
I almost sent a check and something told me not to, so I ripped it up. Whew!

#334 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:09 am

goanderson

Agree. Sacramento is a good location.

#335 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:09 am

#310 Anna7000

hey there :) Nice to see you here

#336 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 1:10 am

This is my parting request for the night PUMAs.

If you prowl around the net and find sites that erroneously state that *61 is the only Dem candidate, send them an email refuting that fact.

Several of us have done so already, and one will hopefully be corrected tomorrow. I’ll let you know about the one I wrote to if I hear from them.

Remember, Edwards and Clinton suspended their campaigns, meaning they are STILL candidates until they END their campaign or it’s post-nomination.

I’m hoping that this will help dispel the myth that *61 is the only contender if we can get well-known websites to acknowledge this in their links and in their articles and refer to him as the Presumptive nominee.

I’m off to the den. My A/C is temporarily working and I want to try to get some rest. It’s been a tough weekend for me.

Awesome work today Pumas, awesome work.

We shall carry on tomorrow with the knowledge that we are doing the right thing for everyone whether they know it or not.

Peace.

#337 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:10 am

328 goandersen
which ad was that for?

#338 Maryland PUMA on 07.21.08 at 1:11 am

Diva

Email me real quick and I’ll send you the files.

#339 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:11 am

goodnight maryland. ((((hug))) Appreciate you greatly. :)

#340 antifish on 07.21.08 at 1:11 am

#322 alohapuma,

I got that same email. I reported it as spam. I also have no idea how he got my email.

#341 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:12 am

332 Dances
I think very first one he was trying to get done.

#342 antifish on 07.21.08 at 1:12 am

Goodnight Maryland! Dream of Hillary taking the oath of office!

#343 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:12 am

#326 TrishfromCanada,

I’m convinced that Obama’s VP pick will be Evan Bayh and that Bayh will accept, unfortunately.

#344 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:13 am

(((((((((((((((night marylandpuma))))))))))))

#345 greenfun on 07.21.08 at 1:13 am

Over at Hillary 44 they mention that Hillary sent out a letter acknowledging the Seneca Falls Anniversary, but Dean, Pelosi and Brazile were all silent. They still want our votes of course…… Pelosi is such an insult to her gender. Where is Cindy Sheehan? Does everyone know that Nancy comes from a political family and ‘married very well’. She is super rich and doesn’t really give a damn, or have any concept of what it is like to spend 67$ to fill up a gas tank. She has a earned a special place in my-you can kiss my @ss file.

#346 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:14 am

antifish…good idea. I didn’t report it as spam, but I will. Certainly would not respond.

#347 antifish on 07.21.08 at 1:14 am

#316 007girl,

I also learned of this site by lurking at HRC. All the regulars were telling folks to come over here.

#348 sheila7 on 07.21.08 at 1:15 am

TRISHFROMCANADA
check email

#349 diva2 on 07.21.08 at 1:15 am

#262 Alohapuma

Please include me in the loop for a meeting and send an email to Halligan or I will. Thanks!

#350 sheila7 on 07.21.08 at 1:15 am

sorry trish please check email

#351 antifish on 07.21.08 at 1:15 am

#341 alohapuma,

No, I had written a very nasty response, but decided not to send it. What would be the point?

#352 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:16 am

What email are all you talking about?

#353 sheila7 on 07.21.08 at 1:16 am

Hi Everybody!

#354 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 1:16 am

#328 goandersen
We also did the Hillary and the McCain donations.

#355 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:17 am

340
There are millions of women who’ve had opportunities delivered to them by feminists and the Women’s Movement, but still, plenty don;t have one iota of consciousness, and worse still, sexism is so deeply internalized in them, that they don’t even recognize when it’s oozing out in front of them, or even, oozing out of them.

#356 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:17 am

TrishfromCanada

You can send more looks up my way if you want…. :)

#357 sandbag on 07.21.08 at 1:18 am

G’nite PUMAs . . .

It’s getting pretty late in EST. I’ll see you again when I can find another wi-fi zone! :)

#358 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 1:18 am

Hey shelia!

#359 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:18 am

349 1gypsy4mc

on Ed’s site? Wow. I am glad I didn’t

#360 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 1:18 am

I like being here with all the productive activities going on…and I have to complete my own contribution and do my part.

PUMA is really great and I enjoy being here. I’m not as “angry” or “ready to do battle” as I was before.

#361 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:18 am

344 diva2

Will do. As far as I know Murphy, Maryland, or Mama have the geographic lists. So I would imagine they would send the conference call information out to the appropriate people. I’ll make sure you are informed.

#362 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:19 am

Night sandbag!

#363 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:19 am

#201 goandersen,

Where would you go? I have traveled a lot and there’s no place like the USA.

#364 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:20 am

#338 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org

I disagree, and I would put Bill Richardson in the VP choosing before Evan.

#365 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:20 am

358 Roxy in cali
I don’t know. I just this country tanking. I am very worried about it.

#366 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 1:20 am

Please, I’m not putting the site down. I just like it here better.

#367 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:21 am

#359 Trish,

With Richardson as VP, BO would have to hire a food taster.

#368 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:21 am

I’ve just sent the Pelosi letter at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org for a second time today to her email address at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov and, for the second time, I got an auto-reply that says that delivery has failed. Does the Speaker of the House no longer want to hear the Voices of Americans?

#369 queen81 on 07.21.08 at 1:22 am

All i know is that if McCain can convince condi, BO doesn’t have a chance…I personally don’t care for her, but the conservatives love her. she would really give him a boost.

#370 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:22 am

362 Roxy in cali
LOL!

#371 sheila7 on 07.21.08 at 1:22 am

#361 1gypsy4mc
what site aren’t you putting down? I’m confused. probably because i read from the bottom up.

#372 antifish on 07.21.08 at 1:22 am

Nite Pumas!

#373 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:22 am

#360 goanderson…….me too

#374 kai on 07.21.08 at 1:23 am

#299 sandbag

I didn’t post much but when I did, about 20% of my postings showed up on HRC site, so I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I’m sure you remember seeing these names: Normita, Maria from NJ, Jersey Joe, PatFlorida, Gay Guy, Gay Gal, UndecidedbutLeaning, LUCY IN MISSOURI and others? We would read their posts on a daily basis… which is why they became almost like family to many of us on Hillary’s site. KarlaforHillary I believe was the one who mentioned PUMA which is what brought me here. Maria from NJ even made signs and took it to Washington to protest FL and MI. PatFlorida worked SO HARD to get Florida votes to count. If any of you are here under a new name…give a shout out!!!!!

#375 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:23 am

361 1gypsy4mc

Which site did you come from?

#376 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:23 am

350 DancesWithPumas

And then there are women who need to dominate other women. I’ve met a couple of Nancy wannabe types who are just as misogynistic as their male counterparts.

#377 sheila7 on 07.21.08 at 1:23 am

Hi and Goodbye Antifish!

#378 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:24 am

363 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org

That happened to me too. Resend it tomorrow. I had to do that, then it went through.

#379 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:24 am

gn anti

#380 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:24 am

#359 TrishfromCanada,

Bayh all but said again today that the Obama campaign is vetting him.

Why do you think Richardson?

Richardson, I think, has made a few too many stupid comments during interviews.

#381 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:24 am

#362 Roxy in cali

Yup, but Bo promised him something big and I still say it was the VP spot. Bo’s just courting all the others trying to make us forget what a backstabbing thief and excuse for a human being Richardson is. He thinks if he dances enough we’ll just sing a long with him.

Two of them sharing the one brain. It’s your guess as to which one has it today.

#382 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:25 am

367

Night anti rodham!

#383 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:25 am

#375 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org

Evan is not the only one being asked, smokes and mirrors is what it is

#384 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:26 am

goodnight anti….

in Hawaii auntie is a beloved wise woman…or your mothers sister. LOL

#385 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:26 am

#373 goandersen,

Thanks! I also cc it to deanh@dnc.org, so I think that someone’s been getting it every time!

#386 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:26 am

371 alohapuma
Yep. Internalized sexism. It’s a patriarchal mindset:
“power over”.

#387 diva2 on 07.21.08 at 1:27 am

Marylandpuma

You have mail.

#388 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:28 am

380 NotFallingInLine

I don’t want them to rest, not one second. No rest for the wicked!

#389 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:28 am

Antifish has left the building.

#390 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:28 am

Well, I was infinitely happy when Webb told Obama to fly a kite. I also would not be happy to have to oppose Bayh. But if it’s Judas, then I’m going to have the time of my life ripping into that ticket.

#391 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:30 am

#376 Trish,

I know Richardson was promised something big. No doubt, but the question is what does R bring to BO’s ticket?

#392 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:30 am

#383 goandersen,

No rest for those who oppose the wicked either, unfortunately.

ETERNAL VIGILANCE.

#393 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:31 am

385 NotFallingInLine
I don’t Bayh will go for it either. Judas is all that is left. LOL! Unless he choses Janet Reno

#394 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:31 am

Have I misunderstood the expression “No rest for the wicked!”? Duh.

#395 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:31 am

386 Roxy from cali

Hispanics

#396 diva2 on 07.21.08 at 1:31 am

#356 Alohapuma

Thanks

#397 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:32 am

#371 alohapuma,

I could not agree more.

#398 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:32 am

I’m surprised there aren’t more pundits talking about the glaring Oedipal themes in this election.

#399 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:33 am

#389 http://www.NotFallingInLine

“No rest for those who oppose the wicked either, unfortunately.”

ETERNAL VIGILANCE.

That’s why they won’t get any rest either!

#400 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:33 am

#388 goandersen,

I don’t know. Bayh looked all too happy this morning playing coy with the media. I think if he’s asked, he’ll say yes. Did you see CNN’s story about Bayh and Sam Nunn a few days ago?

#401 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:34 am

#386 Roxy in cali

Richardson brings nothing and my opinion is that’s what Bo wants, someone who doesn’t outshine him. Someone who will never steal the limelight or his thunder. Bo is so deeply in love with himself that he thinks he doesn’t need anyone, but he knows he has to fill the position. He certainly won’t be filling it with a strong independent thinker.

#402 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:34 am

#390 goandersen,

I am Hispanic and I know HE doesn’t represent ME. Let me tell you, his betrayal of Hillary did not go over well among many of us.

#403 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:35 am

395 NotFallingInLine
No, I didn’t. What was the scoop?

#404 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:35 am

Oedipal Complex

The Oedipal Complex is a term invented by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud who explained present day neuroses partially on the basis of wish fulfillment. The Oedipal Complex is based on Freud’s observation that children often seem to have fallen in love with one parent and developed a hatred for the other. Freud believed this tendency exists in all children but was more marked in neurotics. Freud believed the Oedipus myth bears witness to the prevalence of this Oedipal Complex, both in that it was a popular topic for Greek tragedy and the fact that modern audiences still relate to the story of Oedipus (who murdered his father Laius and then married his mother Jocasta).

#405 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:35 am

397 Roxy in cali

We know that. I don’t think bo gets it though.

#406 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:36 am

396 TrishfromCanada
That would have to be the lackwitted GW Bush

#407 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:36 am

Oh the VP has to be the straight man…the prop. I didn’t know a lot about Richardson until after he announced his support for BO. In an interview he said, he had to think twice because “Bill Clinton is a big guy.”

Birds of a feather….

#408 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:38 am

#364 queen81,

All i know is that if McCain can convince condi, BO doesn’t have a chance…I personally don’t care for her, but the conservatives love her. she would really give him a boost.

———————————————

Another great VP for McCain would have been Powell….of course this was before he endorsed BO!

#409 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:39 am

Good Night Pumas!

#410 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:39 am

Wait! Powell endorsed BO??? Colin Powell??

#411 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:39 am

#401 DancesWithPumas

Sorry, I don’t understand, how does Bush fit into this?

#412 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:39 am

‘night goandersen

#413 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:40 am

399 DancesWithPumas

The parental object of the love fantasy can be either parent…right?

#414 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:40 am

#403 Roxy in cali

When did Powell endorse Bo, he hadn’t as of Wed of last week

#415 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:40 am

IMHO…..Richardson will not entice latin voters!! Latins love Hillary !!

#416 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

Trish:
“Bo wants, someone who doesn’t outshine him. Someone who will never steal the limelight or his thunder. ”

Bush was the only one I could think of who couldnt outshine BO

#417 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

#396 Trish,

You are so right! BO is so much like Bush, he chose Cheney for the same reason.

#418 www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

Check out the CNN story “Bayh, Nunn dodge VP questions, but buzz rises.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/17/bayh-nunn-dodge-vp-questions/

My comment at CNN (playing off of Bayh’s statement about being asking to run as VP is not the kind of thing you say no to):

http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
July 16th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Of course they’re dodging VP questions!

Joining the ticket of an unprincipled selectee of an undemocratic Democratic Party in the VP spot IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING TRUE LEADERS SAY NO TO, as so many of their colleagues already have.

NFIL
NOT FALLING IN LINE behind failed undemocratic Democratic Party leaders and their selectee.

#419 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

#408 alohapuma

In the Oedipus comples the mother is the object

#420 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

408 Aloha
right

#421 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

I think I heard Powell endorse OB also. If he gets on the ticket then it’s all over!! He’s still mad at the Repubs….

#422 greenfun on 07.21.08 at 1:41 am

Here is a good idea from my time spent spying on the BO site. They used to have a place on their site to donate Freq flyer miles from people who didn’t have time to travel to a state, but wanted to help someone participate in the primary. I hate to say it, but it was a good idea. There are probably people willing to donate freq flyer miles to help people get to Denver. I am going to Denver, but have Freq flyer miles on AA to get someone to Denver. We need a place on this site to make it happen. A bigger problem seems to be lodging, and I can’t find much helpful info. We need to be better organized in this area and i’m not sure how to make this happen. Suggestions?

#423 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:42 am

414 Trish
That’s the detail of teh myth, but from the Freudian perspective, it can be either parent

#424 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:42 am

#411 DancesWithPumas

lol ok, I got it now, i’m slowing down, its getting late

#425 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:43 am

#410 007girl,

Yes we do.

#426 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:43 am

nite goandersen …. i hope everything will work out for Denver !!

#427 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:45 am

I have a motel room, sight unseen. Taffy says the area is “ok”… but who knows?

#428 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:45 am

#418 DancesWithPumas

Thank you for the clarification, I remember reading those books in high school, lol reminded me of a few of my classmates

#429 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 1:45 am

#417 greenfun,

Did you try e-mailing Murphy or checking with the 18millionvoices site?

#430 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:45 am

i am Puerto Rican ,and i was so proud of Puerto Ricans during the primaries in Puerto Rico!!!

#431 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:46 am

Maybe Dean will be BOs running mate

#432 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:46 am

#426 DancesWithPumas

lol now that would be just peachy

#433 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:48 am

Well…I believe BO is a narcissist.

The mother (or mother figure) is an unstable and conflicted influence. The collective venomous hatred toward Hillary from that camp had nothing to do with Hillary.

#434 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:49 am

423 TrishfromCanada
Sometimes it’s so apparent (no pun intended)…
when Arnie was running for CA Gov , Orrin Hatch, among other things, wanted to change teh US Constitution so that Arnie could run for President!
And then there was the media when Bush landed on that ship, one mile off the coast of San Diego.. all duded up in that flight suit with the sox tucked into his underwear. The media was smitten.
I don’t think they realize how transparent and embarrassing they are.

#435 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:50 am

427 TrishfromCanada
Dean as running mate? Guaranteed failure.

#436 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:50 am

Dean. Yes!!

#437 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 1:50 am

417 greenfun

Hi lady, I agree we need to have more info on the Denver trip. Bus, train, fly. What people can group up, etc.

#438 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 1:51 am

423 TrishfromCanada

Hi Trish is the database finished yet? If not, send me more please.

#439 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 1:52 am

re#399 dances with pumas
re:Oedipus Complex…
…..Fuckin Greeks…

#440 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:52 am

425 007girl

I was a Flight Attendant in another life. I used to love layovers in PR because of the coffee!!

#441 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:53 am

JUST SAW THIS ON TV–Southwest Airlines

Denver, CO
$79 one-way, to/from Los Angeles, CA
$79 one-way, to/from Oakland, CA
$79 one-way, to/from Portland, OR
$79 one-way, to/from Sacramento, CA (nonstop service begins August 4, 2008)
$79 one-way, to/from San Diego, CA
$79 one-way, to/from San Francisco, CA (nonstop service begins September 2, 2008)
$79 one-way, to/from San Jose, CA
$79 one-way, to/from Seattle/Tacoma, WA

#442 hebrew.que. on 07.21.08 at 1:53 am

Thank you for the advice. I now know what take it upstairs mean. I haven’t yet memorized the abbreviations.

Danceswithpumas:

I am new to blogging. I am not accustomed to thepractices, and trends of such a convenient medium.
When you give contructive criticism, support or advice the direct approach is not always wise. Be considerate of the person you are coveying your message to. A kind word goes much further than a harsh, direct approach.

I now understand that my comments, questions can sometimes or perhaps be passed over all the time without consideration.

I am learning, and thank you for the advice.

#443 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:53 am

Hey now! I’m half Greek.
I’d be more likely to say effin men!

#444 Firebelle Puma on 07.21.08 at 1:54 am

#437 hebrew.que

Glad you made it. You only get left behind once.

#445 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 1:55 am

#436
hows about this one which i would gladly pay for out of my own pocket..
$666 one way to Hell for Mr Barack Obama

#446 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 1:55 am

#436 goandersen

Wow, $160 round trip. That’s cheaper than gas. Are these prices good during the convention?

#447 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:55 am

goandersen that is affordable…but what about lodging???

#448 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 1:56 am

441, 442
I am checking dates now.

#449 diva2 on 07.21.08 at 1:56 am

7 Greenfun

Just as an FYI to travelers to Denver, Southwest offers a discount if 10 or more people of the same group are on the same flight. I am sure they still are offering it but you need to verify it.

2. May want to also want to sign up for the Southwest Credit Card. There curent offer is that if you sign up, you get 8 credits which is the amount you need for a free flight. You may have to use the card once for a full
8 credits .

#450 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 1:56 am

437 hebrew.que

You’re absolutely right. Please accept my sincere apology. I will keep you words in mind if the situation ever arises again.

Oh, and welcome to the Blogosphere. :)

#451 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:56 am

I’m thinking about how they are going to fill that 70,000 + seat stadium. Bus them in that day???

#452 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 1:57 am

How safe and cold is camping in denver?

How many buff PUMAs do we have to feel safe :-P

#453 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:58 am

437 hebrew.que

Second the welcome.

#454 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 1:58 am

#446 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:56 am

I’m thinking about how they are going to fill that 70,000 + seat stadium. Bus them in that day???

I’ve been thinking the same thing. Free ride for *61 supporters and we have to hitch hike?

#455 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 1:58 am

#430 DancesWithPumas

lol I bet Pelosi is hoping for the role

#456 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:59 am

lol billiejo…..i am 5′2

#457 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 1:59 am

447 BillieJo

How many buff Pumas do we have? :)

#458 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 2:00 am

#434 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 1:52 am re#399 dances with pumas
re:Oedipus Complex…
…..Fuckin Greeks…

Hey, knock off making comments like that, keep your bigoted statements to yourself or post them somewhere else.

#459 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:00 am

#409 Trish,

When did Powell endorse Bo, he hadn’t as of Wed of last week

———————————————

I know he hasn’t exactly endorsed him, but he has praised him way too many times in my opinion and he keeps saying on every interview how he will vote for ‘the best’ person to lead this nation blah blah blah and that person will not necesarily be a Republican that he is looking at all candidates…..let me see if I can find the youtube video of at least one of the interviews. BRB

#460 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:00 am

#450 Trish
lol I bet Pelosi is hoping for the role
_____________________________________
oh gag me

#461 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:00 am

maybe there is some way we can take a bus from the airport to the convention!!

#462 1gypsy4mc on 07.21.08 at 2:00 am

#440 freepuma
You’re so funny……..maybe ya’ll can have an on-line auction and raise the money for your trips. You still have enough time, well maybe……

#463 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:01 am

007girl
where in so ca are you?

#464 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:01 am

449 BillieJo

They probably aren’t getting a hotel room.

#465 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:02 am

I wanna go to Denver!!
Look..I’d love to go to Denver in August..
maybe an economy type trip..
!!!!GREYHOUND!!!!!
..any sweet PUMA mama up on going on a thrill ride of a lifetime with me aboard the “Dog”..we’ll buy a couple of gallons of mountain burgundy,some beef jerky,tacos and chips and party all the way up the Rockies :)

#466 greenfun on 07.21.08 at 2:02 am

Roxy, Billie jo, goanderson-I sent the info to Murphys email. AA does not have the most direct routes, but you have my email from the meetup- contact me. I don’t have a place to stay nailed down, but I will figure it out somehow. Let’s make it happen.

#467 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:02 am

#451 007girl on 07.21.08 at 1:59 am

lol billiejo…..i am 5′2

I’m not too tall either, 5′1 1/4″ I’ve gotta count every quarter of an inch :-)

#468 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:04 am

441/442
I just tried to book it and they are not showing $79 fares.
Strange.
Someone else try it.

#469 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:04 am

#452 alohapuma

How many buff Pumas do we have? :)

We can hope :-)

#470 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:04 am

Dances…. Palm spring area

#471 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 2:04 am

#455 DancesWithPumas
It’s very difficult to try to guess who’ll accept the role, and I think they all know its a good chance Hillary with win in August and none of them want to commit to closely to Bo.

#472 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:04 am

Aloha
Theyre also giving tickets to Denver residents…
that’ll make it look like he has more support than he actually has

That reminds me, they never notified me about the one ticket I ordered, nor the other 8.

#473 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:05 am

Yes we can!!!

#474 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:05 am

468 goandersen

Try CheapTickets.com

#475 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:05 am

goandersen i will…..dammit what is the dates

#476 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:06 am

007girl
I’m in metro sandy eggo

#477 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:06 am

464 alohapuma

449 BillieJo

They probably aren’t getting a hotel room.

Well that’s a thought, 75,000 homeless people that can’t afford a hotel. Looks like the campground are going to be packed.

#478 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:06 am

472 DancesWithPumas

Giving tickets away. No doubt.

#479 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:07 am

aug what to what

#480 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:07 am

#471 Trish
That makes perfect sense!
YES WE CAN!! GO PUMAS!! WOOHIOOO

#481 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:08 am

478 Aloha
Bingo!

#482 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:08 am

Sorry, the $79 fares are all gone. Lowest is $129 one way.
:(

#483 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 2:08 am

I better get some sleep , night everyone :) Dream softly when you go there.

#484 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:09 am

goandersen i wanted to try to get tickets but i need the dates…..i have a bad memory. I know it is near my Birthday aug 25th

#485 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:09 am

481 DancesWithPumas

I bet some refreshments will appear too. Don’t want the crowd hungry.

#486 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:10 am

Trish,
Sometimes Will Bower sends out ideas for cartoons to about 4 of us. The last one was about how BO couldnt get anyone to say they’d consider the VP slot. My cartoon was selected and passed around various venues. It was a down and dirty job I did on the cartoon… but it was so much fun!

#487 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:10 am

Sleeptime here too.

Goodnight…again.

#488 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:10 am

258.00 plus lodging

#489 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:11 am

485 alohapuma

They’ll probably bbq steak

#490 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:12 am

489 DancesWithPumas

….and put it on a skewer!!!

#491 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:12 am

#482 goandersen

Sorry, the $79 fares are all gone. Lowest is $129 one way.
:(

Don’t feel bad about it, we still have time to find a way.

#492 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:13 am

goandersen….amtrak is cheaper???

#493 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:14 am

maybe someone is moving and needs someone to drive their car from SF to Denver…we all pile in and take a road trip. :-)

Something will come up, I hope.

#494 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:15 am

You can go to Priceline.com and name your own price for airfare. I just found one for $198.95 RT.

Check it out

#495 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:15 am

#492 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:13 am

goandersen….amtrak is cheaper???

About $200 round trip from Oakland or so.

#496 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:15 am

$129 one way. Way cheaper to carpool. It’s be $30 each, one way for four.

#497 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:16 am

lol….yeah maybe we can cram in their u-haul

#498 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:17 am

goandersen, try cheaptickets.com
they have great selections, and no standby junk rules either.

#499 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:17 am

Oh darn it, I think Trish just left……here’s the one of the interviews with Collin Powell praising BO….Uhg….gag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rphBkyPwuw4

#500 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:19 am

re#493 billie Joe
billie joe..love your spunk and spirit..
“Craigs list” is a great source for finding rides,tickets and all kinds of stuff..

#501 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:20 am

#497 007girl

LOL!

#502 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:20 am

#497 007girl

lol….yeah maybe we can cram in their u-haul

That is too funny! I can see it now, no bathrooms and altitude sickness in the U-haul.

#503 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:21 am

Try Priceline.com and name your own price for airfare.
I just found one for $198.95 RT.

Check it out

#504 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:22 am

502 billijoe

Drill holes in the sides for air!! LOL!

#505 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:22 am

#500 freepuma

billie joe..love your spunk and spirit..
“Craigs list” is a great source for finding rides,tickets and all kinds of stuff..

thanks freepuma, I have a feeling you have a lot of spunk too, with your name freePuma. :-)

#506 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:22 am

lol….yeah maybe we can cram in their u-haul

That is too funny! I can see it now, no bathrooms and altitude sickness in the U-haul.
*************

Then there is the whole subject of “air”.

#507 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:23 am

007girl and Billiejo,

Dumb and dumber’s trip to Aspen Colorado comes to mind. LOL

#508 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:23 am

goandersen i went to cheap tickets and the cheapest round trip ticket i found was 309.00

#509 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:24 am

#503 goandersen

Try Priceline.com and name your own price for airfare.
I just found one for $198.95 RT.

I wonder how far the airport is from the convention then the housing. Yipes, this is getting expensive even to get the best deals.

#510 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:24 am

508 007girl

See 503

#511 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:24 am

Craigslist for alternative lodging

#512 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:25 am

508 007girl

Ticket prices change so you have to keep checking. Sometimes an airline will add a flight to a schedule and suddenly the formula adjusts and the price is down for a period of time.

#513 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:25 am

i will poke a hole through the bed of the u-haul and get a straw to in-hale fresh air…….lol

#514 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:25 am

509 BillieJo

I know, that is why snoopin out the deals is crucial.

#515 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:26 am

Isnt DEnver’s airport the one that had all that baggage trouble? Six miles from the city is my best recollection.

#516 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:26 am

#507 Roxy in cali

007girl and Billiejo,

Dumb and dumber’s trip to Aspen Colorado comes to mind. LOL

Now, now…not dumb just resourceful…or don’t got much money honey. :-)

#517 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:26 am

513 007girl

There ya go!

#518 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:26 am

#513 007girl

You might get more exhaust that way. LOL!

We will all arrive with plus signs in our eyes!

#519 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:27 am

#513 007 girl
:) hee hee

#520 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:27 am

Carryon luggage so you dont get clipped with that $25 per bag fee. Or is teh first stowed bag free?

#521 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:28 am

you guys have me rolling

#522 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:28 am

I’ll like to take a train round tip for a total of $100 that went right to the convention. *61 should feed us and there should be a safe, clean place for us to sleep so we will be fresh each morning when we kick his @ss at the convention.

#523 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:28 am

i am trying to get us to flippin denver but i am crying…..can’t see the screen

#524 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:29 am

re#516 bille joe
dumb and dumber is the name of Obama and Deans trip to Denver
:)

#525 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:29 am

How far is the drive to Denver from Sacramento or the Bay Area?

#526 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:29 am

its gonna be a party…no matter what!

Goodnight…for real this time.

#527 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:29 am

#520 DancesWithPumas

I always travel light, and never check baggage. I worked for the airlines, I don’t trust them.

#528 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:30 am

#526 alohapuma

Night

#529 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:30 am

#525
Denver to Sac or bay area..
about 24-36 hours approximately

#530 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:30 am

#525 DancesWithPumas

It is about 1270 miles one way.

#531 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:30 am

#516 Billiejo,

I’m talking about the movie dumb and dumber with Jim Carrey. They were just as resourceful.

#532 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:30 am

gn aloha

#533 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:31 am

whoa…
15 hour drive from San Diego

#534 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:31 am

Isnt DEnver’s airport the one that had all that baggage trouble? Six miles from the city

That’s a long walk with “plus signs” in your eyes and only carry-on luggage. I’m exhausted already.

#535 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:31 am

dumb and dumber is a funny movie or how about planes trains and automobiles????

#536 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:32 am

525 DancesWithPumas

Sacramento to Denver is a 17 hour drive.

#537 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:32 am

#533
15 hrs from SD to denver???
what kind of car do you drive anyway???
NASCAR?? hehehe
:)

#538 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:32 am

#529 #530
Then likely 28 hours with stops

#539 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:32 am

From Las vegas to Denver is about 12 hours non stop

#540 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:32 am

I’m talking about the movie dumb and dumber with Jim Carrey. They were just as resourceful.

I was just teasing…as always.

#541 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:33 am

#534 BillieJo
Isnt DEnver’s airport the one that had all that baggage trouble? Six miles from the city

That’s a long walk with “plus signs” in your eyes and only carry-on luggage. I’m exhausted already.

LMAO!

#542 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:33 am

amtrak is only 100.00 0ne way???

#543 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:34 am

537 freepuma
I do tend to drive fast…
but, I mapquested the drive…
15-16 hours ( i think they estimate speed at 65 mph)
My car gets 38 mpg, so that would help.

#544 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:34 am

I was playing the rap music they are wild lol

#545 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:34 am

#538 DancesWithPumas

maybe with one driver, 2 or more would be a lot faster.

#546 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:34 am

527 goandersen

#520 DancesWithPumas

I always travel light, and never check baggage. I worked for the airlines, I don’t trust them.

You guys are worried about luggage at this point, we haven’t found a way of travel beyond the U-haul yet.
:-)

#547 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:35 am

541 goandersen ‘
LOL

#548 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:35 am

#536..
err sorry..hehe
..last time i went to denver from sacramento was in 1962..took forever i remember

#549 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:35 am

525 DancesWithPumas

I estimate in my SUV it would be about $500 in gas.

Divide that by (say) four people is about $125 in gas for each passenger. Honestly, flying makes more sense.

#550 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:36 am

lmao you guys are to damn funny

#551 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:36 am

#542 007girl

Amtrak is slower though. A day and a half to get there and someone said earlier they are always late.

We will work it out, I am sure of it!

#552 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:36 am

545 goandersen
Faster only in that you wouldnt have to do it in two clips.. otherwise, same distance

#553 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:36 am

I looked at the flyers very good

#554 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:37 am

i am down for driving as long as i get home within 4 days

#555 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:37 am

1,268 miles 18 hour drive from Oakland, CA to Denver.

#556 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:37 am

#546 BillieJo
527 goandersen

#520 DancesWithPumas

I always travel light, and never check baggage. I worked for the airlines, I don’t trust them.

You guys are worried about luggage at this point, we haven’t found a way of travel beyond the U-haul yet.

LMAO!

#557 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:37 am

aloha, good morning!
what kind of milage does your SUV get? 18? 24?

#558 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:38 am

and i don’t like stopping for bathroom breaks…..lol

#559 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:38 am

#548 freepuma

#536..
err sorry..hehe
..last time i went to denver from sacramento was in 1962..took forever i remember

It must take a darn long time if you have a memory of it that lasted over 40 years!!!

#560 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:38 am

Maybe I will hitch a ride with a trucker

#561 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:38 am

we are going in a coach that carries 47

#562 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:39 am

BillieJo
“527 goandersen #520 DancesWithPumasb
I always travel light, and never check baggage. I worked for the airlines, I don’t trust them.
You guys are worried about luggage at this point, we haven’t found a way of travel beyond the U-haul yet.
_____________________________________________
It’s a form of affirmation ;)

#563 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:39 am

557 DancesWithPumas

Shoot me! I drive a gas guzzler! Usually about 20 mpg

#564 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:39 am

no weak bladders can ride with me…….lmao

#565 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:39 am

re:#555
18 hours eh?
9 hrs to get out of Oakland safely and 9 hrs to get to Denver :)

#566 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:39 am

aloha :x

#567 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:39 am

make sure he is cute

#568 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:40 am

oops aloha, that was supposed to be a
“my lips are sealed” icon

#569 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:40 am

RFLMAO!!!

#570 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:40 am

557 DancesWithPumas

Cute? Where?

#571 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:40 am

Take a large can :)

#572 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:40 am

trucker???? I’ll ride with large Marge !!!!

#573 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:41 am

Sorry sandipuma

cute? where?

#574 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:41 am

#558 007girl

and i don’t like stopping for bathroom breaks…..lol

And what do you do to prevent them? Do you know something I don’t? You would work out well with a straw in a U-haul.

#575 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:41 am

#561 sandipuma
“we are going in a coach that carries 47″

Are you taking your winnebago?

#576 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:41 am

Oakland’s easy… 580 to teh Sacramento interchange 680?

Sorry, it’s been a while

#577 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:42 am

#572 007girl
trucker???? I’ll ride with large Marge !!!!

Really, just find a stomper to ride with. LOL!

#578 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:42 am

and a air tight lid

#579 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:42 am

Cute and not a BO supporter!!!

#580 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:43 am

#563 alohapuma

Shoot me! I drive a gas guzzler! Usually about 20 mpg

You drive one of them dang Hummers? We could fit a lot of PUMAs in one of those. :-) Road Trip!

#581 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:43 am

#574 BillieJo
#558 007girl

and i don’t like stopping for bathroom breaks…..lol

And what do you do to prevent them? Do you know something I don’t? You would work out well with a straw in a U-haul.

LOL!

#582 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:43 am

BO supporter and you would be tied to the smoke stack

#583 cosmeta on 07.21.08 at 2:44 am

BRAINSTORMING DNC IDEAS

Howard Dean’s lack of good leadership
Howard Deans’s poor judgement
Howard Dean placing the 100% penalty on Florida and Michgan
Howard Deans’ reluctance to resolve the issue
Constantly saying the primary was taking to long when polls showed the voters wanted a chance to be heard.
Pushing the Superdelegates into a vote when the rules say they had up until the Convention and then claiming he cannot undo the rules when it came to counting the popular votes from Florida and Michigan
Saying, I want the SuperDelegates to start weighing in now (think that was mid-May); then he changed it to June 4th.
Saying that the SuperDelegates must decide by July 1st
Saying we need to select a nominee before the Convention (under what rule)?
Saying we cannot have a split Convention.
Using Obama’s code words, like the Country wants change or is ready for change
IN SHORT, TRYING TO PUSH HILLARY OUT OF THE RACE!
Stifling a revote for Florida and Michigan
Giving Florida and Michigan 1/2 their delegation on May 31st
Awarding Barack Obama uncommitted votes for Michigan when he took his name off the ballot
Awarding Barack Obama uncommitted votes for Michigan based upon an Exit Poll (under what rule)?
Claiming a 50-state strategy and then constantly telling us that the race is taking too long
Allowing other state to move their primaries up but penalizing Florida and Michigan only.
Moving Iowa and New Hampshire primaries up to leap frog FL and MI
In short, Mr Dean could have penalized Fl and MI with a monetary fine and allowed the popular vote to stand.

Note: the above not in any chronological order.

#584 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:44 am

580 BillieJo

Worse. It’s a Lexus, but hey pile in!!

#585 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:44 am

re#574 billie joe

..see that picture of the cat up at the top of the page?
well after 18 hours in that U-Haul with no breaks or stops that’s what you’re gonna look like when you get out in Denver :)

#586 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:44 am

either that or a cork

#587 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:45 am

All the BO supporters here look the same :
early 20 somethng, preppy, dull…. all 6 of them.

Reminds me… a few months ago there were BO bumper stickers all over the place. Now, if I see one per day, it’s a lot…and I’m looking for them!

#588 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:45 am

#583 cosmeta

Are you joining us in Denver???

#589 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:45 am

#576 DancesWithPumas

Oakland’s easy… 580 to teh Sacramento interchange 680?

Okay, Dances doesn’t drive, we would get all the way to Sacto before we got lost. :-)

#590 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:46 am

everyone buy pepper spray

#591 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:47 am

#585 Freepuma…..that is tooooo funny

#592 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:47 am

#583 cosmeta

You just never stop! Amazing. I save most of your writings.

#593 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:47 am

589 BillieJo

ROTFL!!!!!

Dances doesn’t drive!!

#594 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:47 am

#583 cosmeta on 07.21.08 at 2:44 am

BRAINSTORMING DNC IDEAS

Hey what’s up with this, we are talking Denver and cosmeta is trying to be serious.

#595 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:48 am

BillieJo
I lived up there for 24 years… I just never drove to Denver from there…
oh wait once… went to Boulder and a new age healing conference. Told you I am old!

#596 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:48 am

re#576..
make sure you stop in sacramento to pick up plenty tomatoes..
TO THROW AT OBAMA in DENVER!
:)

#597 goandersen on 07.21.08 at 2:48 am

OK puma buds. I really am going to sleep now.
Thanks for the laughs! LOL!

#598 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:48 am

ok who can draw good???

#599 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:49 am

night goanderson sweet dreams

#600 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:49 am

596 freepuma

Down freepuma down girl!!

#601 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:49 am

I drive! I just lack any sense of direction…
that’s okay, I get to see lots of places I wasnt planning on seeing, and I do get to my destination eventually.

#602 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:49 am

gn goandersen….hopefully we will find a way!!

#603 alohapuma on 07.21.08 at 2:50 am

goodnight

#604 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:50 am

I did a rough drawing of a really kool cartoon but it looks like mt grand baby drew it

#605 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:51 am

sandipuma…what is it of?
what was the cartoon idea?

#606 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:51 am

re#600..
i’m on a roll baby..i’m on a roll. don’t stop me now :)
-by the way I’m a guy (and a very handsome guy at that)..

#607 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:51 am

the estimated time to get to denver is 14hrs but i drive 80-85mph i wonder how much time that will save me?

#608 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:52 am

freepuma…
and now the news. Film at 11

#609 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:52 am

#583 Cosmeta,

Dean failure to acknowledge the misogyny and sexism against Hillary during the primary.

#610 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:52 am

well going to bed now night all

#611 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:52 am

18 hours in that U-Haul with no breaks or stops that’s what you’re gonna look like when you get out in Denver :)

I wish I would look that cute after our joy ride, I wouldn’t be recognizable as a human being.

#612 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:53 am

The estimated time from SD to Oakland was 9 hours, I always made it in 7 door to door. I drive like you do.

#613 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 2:53 am

OK you want me to tell you about the cartoon

#614 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:54 am

#595 DancesWithPumas
I lived up there for 24 years… I just never drove to Denver from there…
oh wait once… went to Boulder and a new age healing conference. Told you I am old!

Good try Dances, you’re still not driving. :-)

#615 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:54 am

BillieJo
LOL!!

#616 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:54 am

gn sandipuma

#617 freepuma on 07.21.08 at 2:54 am

SWEET DREAMS OH GENTLE AND LOVELY PUMAS..

#618 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:55 am

sandipuma yes

#619 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:55 am

#596 freepuma

re#576..
make sure you stop in sacramento to pick up plenty tomatoes..

Oh so now that we want bathroom breaks you aren’t going? :-)

#620 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:56 am

LOL BJ

#621 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:56 am

#597 goandersen

OK puma buds. I really am going to sleep now.
Thanks for the laughs! LOL!

Night goandersen, be sure to email greenfun. We’ll all keep thinking of a way…we still have time.

#622 007girl on 07.21.08 at 2:57 am

gn freepuma

#623 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:58 am

is sandi still here

#624 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 2:58 am

#606 freepuma I’m a guy (and a very handsome guy at that)..

Are you buff???? :-)

#625 DancesWithPumas on 07.21.08 at 2:59 am

Okay, I’m off to bed. Goodnight!

#626 Roxy in cali on 07.21.08 at 2:59 am

Good nite Pumas, sweet dreams.

#627 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 3:00 am

ok think of me as sophia on the Golden Girls “picture this” Across the top it says CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN undernieth is Pelosi with her hands over her eyes and Dean with his hands over his mouth Reis with his hands over his ears and Brazil saying PEEWW
they are standing other side of long table and watching MO changinf BO’s diaper that is the American flag. BO is saying see i’m the SELECTED one
at the botton it says The DNC CONVENTION

#628 007girl on 07.21.08 at 3:00 am

Billiejo do you have to have bathroom breaks??? lol

#629 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 3:01 am

Who turned off the lights…………..okay, I have to go to bed too, work tomorrow.
Let’s try to keep the humor in this blog…some days it get’s so weird I want to cry.
Thanks for the humor PUMAs, sleep tight.

#630 007girl on 07.21.08 at 3:01 am

gn Roxi in cali

#631 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 3:02 am

Reid and i left out 5 chairs other side of the table

#632 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 3:03 am

It took me all that time to write it and you all go to bed

#633 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 3:03 am

GROWWLLL

#634 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 3:04 am

Good Night all c ya later ….i can ask someone else to draw it for me

#635 BillieJo on 07.21.08 at 3:04 am

#632 sandipuma

It took me all that time to write it and you all go to bed

Sorry sandipuma, put it on the blog in the morning…have to get up for work in 5.5 hours.
Good night.

#636 sandipuma on 07.21.08 at 3:06 am

night don’t work to hard

#637 007girl on 07.21.08 at 3:07 am

good nite all ,it has been fun….hope to catch up with all of the Californians to work something out!!! I work 10hr days, i get home at 1:30am so don’t know if i will check in before next weekend…i hope we will be closer to a resolution…..Billiejo thanks for the entertainment!!!

#638 valleywitch on 07.21.08 at 3:13 am

Please be careful where you visit. and erase anti*61 pages from web history. Every Time I clicked on one of those links I had to re-log in. I made sure to click remember me on WordPress, but at least did not have to re-register. Just read what happened to Atlas Shrugged, it made me ill, that someone would kill a harmless animal as a threat. This Puma may have nightmares tonight, but she will never quit the fight!
blessings to all, be safe. Good night for now.
valleywitch

#639 chrissieD on 07.21.08 at 3:23 am

hi everyone. im from south africa and what really saddens me abt the american elections is that the person with the most money can literally buy it. whether they have no clue of geography like bush and bo. hillary was the most qualified candidate. originally when i started to follow the elections i liked both hillary and bo but when bo changed his stance on the sds i stopped supporting him. he said originally that there should be no back room deals when hillary was ahead on the superdelegate count and the votes and that the peoples voices should count ahead of the supers. the people didn’t include florida and michigan obviously..

#640 chrissieD on 07.21.08 at 3:25 am

:-)

#641 TLCPUMA on 07.21.08 at 4:34 am

re: 374 Kai
IM one from Hillarys site used the name Luckytlc
But im a PUMA now !!!!!!!!!!!
And im still ready for Denver , i read all the post everyday but mostly at night so when i get to the end everyones already in bed LOL
Ive been laughing at some of you tonight what a team we all make !!!!

And a shout out to RonniPuma !!!!!!!# 137
im reading alot of stuff about that book that is out by Andy Martin about obama The man behind the mask and i hope he has alot of news coverage because this guy has investigated obama for four years and he is very worried about this book LOL im sooo glad !!!

#642 storytellers on 07.21.08 at 4:48 am

Good Morning
just reading the entry
what happen to PA4Hill & MP???

#643 turndownobama on 07.21.08 at 5:24 am

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#644 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 5:32 am

good morning PUMA’s

#645 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 5:47 am

Good morning Trish and Pumas who brave the early morning day!

#646 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 5:48 am

#642 bythelake

how are you this morning?

#647 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 5:49 am

I’m good. Need coffee lol. Fell asleep during the radio show last night, ugh.

#648 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 5:50 am

Are you a early riser as well? I’ve been burning that candle at both ends, caught up with me.

#649 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 5:52 am

lol yeah, I don’t sleep much, and I wake early, i have a long drive into work and I stop at the lakeshore each morning for a jog, wakes me up

#650 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 5:53 am

brb need to dry my hair

#651 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 5:58 am

Wish I had your energy! Which lakeshore? I’m in the Northeast corner of Ohio. I can see the lake from my store. (south shore lake erie)

#652 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 6:02 am

in the eastend of toronto, It’s called Ashbridges Bay, I think. A pretty name for a sewer drop off point

#653 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 6:03 am

I don’t really have that much energy, i have diabetes and if I exercise daily I don’t have to take meds, I can control my sugar levels through exercise

#654 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:05 am

Oh my, they just dredged our river…talk about pollutants.

I love Niagara on the Lake. If I could live anywhere, that would be my pick!

#655 ladyhawkke on 07.21.08 at 6:07 am

Good morning everyone, I haven’t read any posts since 7pm last evening so I don’t know if this was posted or not. But it’s troubling regarding Clinton’s debt.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/clinton-put-in-1-million-more/#comment-1230749

#656 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:07 am

Good way to control diabetes. Take care of yourself! My ex has diabetes that he also is controls with his diet.

#657 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 6:09 am

Niagara on the lake is pretty ad very expensive to live there, its even expensive to vacation there

#658 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:10 am

Good morning ladyhawkke. I agree, that is sad. I think we have tried so hard. An earlier posting mentioned they hope she doesn’t suspend her delegates. I would certainly hope that doesn’t happen.

#659 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:12 am

I was up there quite a few years ago when they were redoing that large hotel. I’m ready to make a trip back. I just love Canada! I don’t know but anyplace I’ve been there is clean, no riff-raff, and they take pride in their country. Here, people are slobs, no respect.

#660 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 6:15 am

lol we have our fair share of hole in the grounds, and plenty of homeless people, mostly in the larger cities though

#661 TrishfromCanada on 07.21.08 at 6:15 am

ok i’m off to work, i’ll be back in a few hours, take care til then :)

#662 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:18 am

I haven’t made it to far north yet. But I will. Hey, you couldn’t have as many homeless as Denver! Trying to hide them, for crying out loud, they could find them places to live and get them off the streets. I just don’t know what is wrong with our governments. We have a few homeless here in town. Last night this one that walks all the time pushing a shopping cart was sitting on a bench with a cardboard sign that read “going to Kansas?”. Told my daughter he should pick Denver. I’d pay his way!

#663 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:19 am

Have a good day. :)

#664 ladyhawkke on 07.21.08 at 6:24 am

#655 BYTHELAKE I am still at a loss to understand these numbers. What happened to the big fundraiser we had and the supposed $6-10M we raised? If we did all that for naught, I’m angry. How can you take in money and then have to loan yourself another mil? I’m a senior and I spent money I could have used on myself to help her out. I’m still confused about these numbers. Apparently, there was an announcement but I didn’t see it. Does her debt have to be paid down in order to be put into nomination?

#665 Notyoursweetie on 07.21.08 at 6:34 am

Obama poses as “American abroad” while secretly meets emirs
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/ovama-vs-obama-abroad/

#666 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:35 am

661, Ladyhawkke, I’m still trying to make sense of it. It appears that her bills keep adding up and needed paid. I heard she was making an announcement today. I’m not sure if debt needs paid down or not. I think it’s better if it is. The loans from herself she takes a loss on. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what she announces. I pray it’s not releasing delegates. I’ll be heartbroken, again.

#667 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:37 am

#662 BO fits right in over there uh? Maybe he should call that home!

#668 ladyhawkke on 07.21.08 at 6:38 am

I just got this e-mail from Ed Hale, at hcsfjm.com.
“Hi all: The latest edition of the HCSFJM newsletter is now online. Please go to http://www.hcsfjm.com/newsletter.html for your copy. Also we are getting close to having all our radio equipment in by Wednesday of this week. We will then start having guests on so that you may talk to them. Our 1st guest will be the gal who started PUMAPAC. She is raising money for bus to Denver and I am sure many of you will have questions for her. ….. The show will have a great quality audio as this is the latest equipment there is. ….”

#669 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:40 am

Neat! Off to Denver!

#670 ladyhawkke on 07.21.08 at 6:40 am

I’ve got a tennis match at 8:00 but I hope when I get back, someone will have more info regarding Hillary’s debt. I hope this is a bad joke.

#671 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:43 am

I certainly understand. Hopefully we will have some concrete answers later today. Have a good day and match!

#672 ladyhawkke on 07.21.08 at 6:56 am

Before I go, I looked this up. Don’t know if this is up to date or what:
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00431569/328357/sd/12

#673 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 6:59 am

Wow, lot of expenses. Look at it this way. Think of how many the DNC has with no money coming to them. And it will get worse!

#674 bythelake on 07.21.08 at 7:09 am

This article turns my stomach. “Influx of Voters Likely to Test New Machines”. Nothing like telling us from the get go that we as voters will be having issues. Oh, I love the line;

“With Senator Barack Obama’s candidacy expected to attract many people who have never encountered a voting machine…”.

Now, don’t tell me this isn’t about race! I know for a fact that AA who have never voted before are voting this year because BO is black. Heard it straight from their lips! This is the most disgusting election this country has ever faced. Race card? You bet. That’s the only way BO could ever win, grab AA who never gave a rat’s ass about our country and still don’t, they just want a black man in office. This is why you can’t talk to the obots, they are brain dead.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/21/us/21voting.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1216638200-iEjG2P1xtflSi3GnrrLh0w

#675 anonymous on 07.21.08 at 7:16 am

Hi PUMAs,

I am sorry that I haven’t been here for the last few days. I am doing okay. I am working really hard on a new project. I am exhausted.

Just wanted to say how shocked I am at the message that I saw on the other thread. A post from somebody “Big Papa”?

I still have goose bumps. IT WAS SOMEBODY REALLY MAD!!! How could they have said or thought something like this? MAN!!! It’s getting really dangerous and insane. I am afraid of what will happen on election day. I think that BO people might try to force us to vote for him. I am REALLY afraid that it might end with a lot of lives lost because these people will try to physically attack us.

BRRRR… I think I will get ready for bed.

Talk to you later guys

#676 Headclunker on 07.21.08 at 7:22 am

#127 Notfollowinthepiper -

Interesting Post. However, the numbers for June are not due to the FEC until today an will not be released until the end of this month. Our major fundraising was done in July and they have not considered them in the article. There is also the T-shirt contest, that I believe came out in July. Those numbers will not be due to the FEC until right before the Convention. Clinton is smart.

#677 murphy on 07.21.08 at 7:24 am

Morning All,

today is a new day,

take it upstairs!

#678 anonymous on 07.21.08 at 7:25 am

REMINDER!!!

Howard Dean created a contest asking people to send him a YouTube video telling him: “Why you are a Democrat in 2008″?

DEADLINE: AUGUST 1

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/demconvention

Have fun! Be creative! Be NICE!!! Maybe send it to Donna Brazille and other Super Delegates. ;) :)

#679 MamaPuma on 07.21.08 at 8:07 am

Good Morning PUMAs

Be good PUMAs and get your prowl done from Sunday if you have not already done it.

In the mean time, I have been asked for the snail mail addresses of the irritated and tired. Here they are:
Mr. Donald Fowler
PO Box 50627
Columbia, SC 29250
803-799-7550
don@fowlercommunications.com

Ms. Alice Germond
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
202-863-7183
germonda@dnc.org

#680 chrissieD on 07.21.08 at 8:47 am

i think hillary fought the campaign with such dignity and class :-) she is an inspiration to women everywhere. really i think this world tour of obamas was scheduled so that he could avoid the debates he said he’d attend with mccain.

#681 notfollowinthepiedpiper on 07.21.08 at 8:49 am

#675 Headclunker

???? I’m confused. The article in this link is about BO snubbing foreign journalists, not fund raising. Here it is gain:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/18/AR2008071802612.html

#682 vadaryl on 07.21.08 at 8:57 am

Yesterday I heard that it takes 300 Delegates to sign a petition and Hillary has to sign off on it for her name to be put up for nomination or the party can override that and say she is up for nomination. Does anybody know of a link that explains that process? I have seen a few but nothing that describes this process just what happens after that part.

#683 Perry logan on 07.21.08 at 9:20 am

I’m proud that PUMA and the growing anti-Obama movement are fighting the hostile takeover of the Democratic Party.

It seems we’re going through exactly what the Republicans went through in 2000, with the rise of the neocons.

Then, as now, some authoritarian types gamed the system and took over–the voters be damned.

But notice the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. When it happened to them, the Republicans didn’t raise a peep.

The truth is, they probably didn’t even notice what was going on.

We Democrats do much better. When our party screws up, we stand up and ROAR.

Obama BAD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzu0hmW6pY

#684 emme on 07.21.08 at 10:10 am

#679 MamaPuma on 07.21.08 at 8:07 am

Just saw the action from yesterday and just completed this morning!

M
PA PUMA

#685 gocleffnote on 07.21.08 at 11:27 am

Please notice that the article about Hillary’s debt was talking about her end of June money. Our push was on July fourth, so these totals have nothing to do with our push. Don’t be discouraged, we still know nothing. If she had a debt of 12.4 million and we raised between 6-10 just from that four day drive, that leaves her with 2-6 million short, except, some people have given since the July 4th push.

#686 kai on 07.21.08 at 12:30 pm

641 TLCPUMA….Hi and yes I sure do remember luckytlc from Hillary’s site. Good to know you are here!

#687 bruce55555 on 07.21.08 at 12:53 pm

683 perry logan
You really and truly rock!!!

To the point with fun :-D

#688 MountainSong on 07.21.08 at 1:01 pm

MO just reeks of anger and fanatic hatred. I believe Obama’s true intentions are to destroy America and that he is the ultimate covert terrorist we have been warned about. He has already subverted all MSM, usurped the Democratic National Party rules, bought and paid for officials, and fomented the worst racism since the 60’s.One look at his ‘tax and spend’ policies and proposals is enough to see how he can send this country into destitution. And his campaign platform can be summed up in five words: “I agree with Senator Clinton.” Not a single original idea.
He wants to change America, alright, but into his own country?
I also don’t believe we can stop him with mere votes because that didn’t work in 2000 and 2004. Somehow his purse strings need to be cut and some kind of restraining order or injuction or order to cease and desist from the organized plan for the destruction of the USA. Something that can be enforced by the force of law. We just cannot, WILL NOT, turn our country over to him.

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