Declaration of Sentiments
written and revised by Annabelle at Peacocks and Lilies and the Seneca 160 Committee.
On this, the 160th anniversary of the Women’s Conference at Seneca Falls, New York, and in accordance with the
Declaration of Sentiments of 1848, We The People reaffirm that all men and all women are created equal.
We reaffirm; that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from
the consent of the governed.
We reaffirm; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of those who
suffer from it to refuse allegiance to it, and to insist upon the institution of a new government, laying its foundation
on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety
and happiness.
We reaffirm; that the history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward
woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her.
In light of this history, and in the understanding that men and women must be banded together in common cause to
change the course of this history, we affirm that:
Women’s rights are human rights, and human rights are women’s rights.
We are obligated to stand up and protect the rights of all people, regardless of gender, skin color, religion, sexual
orientation, nationality, or creed, to live in a society that upholds equality, freedom, and justice.
All people have a right to receive equal pay for equal work, have the freedom to share their lives with the partners of
their choice, and have access to the same opportunities for employment.
Every citizen of the United States of America is entitled to equal protection under the Constitution of the United
States.
No political body operating under the Constitution of the United States possesses the power or authority to violate
the rights of citizens protected by that Constitution.
Every vote cast by an eligible voter must be counted, and every vote cast and counted must be reflected fairly.
Every citizen of the world must be recognized as being in possession of the same inalienable human rights; to live
free from emotional, economic, religious, sexual, political, and physical oppression.
Firmly relying upon the final triumph of the Right and the True, we do this day affix our signatures to this
Declaration.
UPDATE JULY 19, 2008 at 10:45am: Hope everyone is feeling nice and uplifted after reading that. But if you start to think that speaking up politically as a woman is now safe and commonplace after 160 years, THINK AGAIN. Here’s a comment posted over at the Hireheels blog. The commenter’s name is Big Papa.
“You racist PUMA (pu$$ie$)CeeRackers aren’t fooling anybody. You hate Obama because he’s a strong, intelligent and accomplished Black man. You racist, man-hating pigettes are nothing but right wing trash, who are soon going to be extinct in the NEW America. There is a new generation rising to destroy you right wing conservative, racist female dogs, and male pigs. You’re all squealing demons who are going to Hell, and the world will be a much better place without you all! Say hello to the next POTUS- Barack Hussein Obama…you scummy beeeeotches!”
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Morning All,
Happy Birthday to the Women’s Rights Movement!
Light posting today as I catch up on email and other things and get ready for the first Puma PAC radio show.
If you sent me an email I will respond today — but feel free to resend anything you think I should see right now.
Good Morning Murphy
Good Morning Murph, have a great weekend.
Repost
Good Morning Pumas,
Two articles for you this morning.
51,000 Superdelegate Emails & Counting In Just Two Days
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/51000-superdelegate-emails-and-counting.html
&
Obama’s Bus Rolls Over A Disabled American Veteran
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-bus-rolls-over-disabled-american.html
Reposting from downstairs,
LOL July 18th -
Michelle Obama: Using Blogher to Talk to People Online – Blogher
So I go there are read her dribble about how she can relate to the working women with children – yeah right. And not one comment after her article. I’m guessing the Bo train of fans can’t blog it because being the kids they are, they can’t relate to 1. work and 2. caring for children. That and the idea Mo is as boring as heck when she tries to reach out to people.
Good morning Murphy, hope you were able to rest after the past few busy days.
#4 TrishfromCanada ,
I can’t even comment professionally about MO. Let’s just say that I am not impressed with her.
Today is the 160th Anniversary of the Women’s Rights Movement and still women and Hillary are being called a Bitch. My attitude, go ahead and call me that because this is what the letters stand for:
B-eing
I-n
T-otal
C-ontrol of
H-erself
Love to all women everywhere and to the men who love and stand beside us.
#7 go_Ohio_Lady,
Good morning. I don’t like that word but I do like your definition of it LOL
Thank you Murphy for the great start to the day. Good morning those that are here. I saved this to my desktop. Been busy, Mom is doing fine… thought she might end up in the hospital.
What is the announcement that Hillary is going to make tomorrow? Anyone have an inkling of what it’s going to be?
#9 bmw60,
Good morning. I haven’t heard anything about an announcement. I hope it is a positive one.
Murphy, sent you mail, it is urgent, also sent it to you last night. Thanks!
#9 bmw60,
I just remembered that I read one of the posts that said that tomorrow that there would be an announcement about Hillary’s debt.
Just checked my yahoo e-mail after a few days of ignoring it, received a sob story from the Bo boys:
Trish —
The McCain campaign is bragging that they are out-raising and out-spending us.
By collecting huge checks from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs, they raised more money than ever before in June. Combined with the Republican National Committee, they now have more than $95 million in cash on hand.
I recorded a short video in my office about what we are up against. Now is the time to step up and make your first donation to help us close the gap.
Please watch the video and make a donation of $25 now:
I’m going to send back a response that this is requesting a donation from a non-american and please send me the contact info for who I report it to.
Good morning PUMAS…ready to go to the first Meetup in Orlando today! Will be great to talk face to face with others that have the same mindset.
We need some comments on this article. Turns out Christina is younger than my son. That explains a lot!
Has Puma Met It’s Match?
By Tommy Christopher
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and her name that sat on him was Christina, and Hell followed with her.
As I come close to wrapping up a week of stories about PUMA (People United Means Action, or Party Unity My Ass, or Pelting Unicorns Mit Acorns), I was hoping to have reached a state of Nirvana by now, in which I would clearly see that up really was down, and voting for John McCain was the way to strike a blow for women everywhere. After meeting (virtually) Darragh Murphy, the founder of PUMAPAC, and dipping a toe into the Just Say No Deal coalition’s cyber-pool, I was starting to feel like part of the gang.
But, then, I was contacted by Christina Cedeno, also known as The Anti-PUMA. She has put together a website that aims to act as smelling salts to those in a PUMA trance. The 22 year-old preschool teacher says she can’t wait to get mic’ed up and throw down with a real live PUMA. She says there aren’t that many of them.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/18/has-puma-met-its-match/8#comments
#14 NoMoreInFL,
Good morning. Please give us a report when you get back. I am so excited for you. I wish that I had some more local pumas to meet with. At least I did get to meet one of the pumas from Will Bowers group at the rally Thursday.
Have to remember…they only learn to count to 10!
#15 antifish,
Good morning. Go get em antifish. I don’t think I am awake enough yet to go into the paranah tank. I am still on my first cup of cofee. LOL
Go-Ohio #11 — got it — done.
please email me what happened?
It’s hard to stay aware of all the details, esp since Puma PAC members are ALL OVER the internet making things happen.
But it sounds like something is really not right over there at that cesspool site.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/conservative-group-to-air-anti-obama-ads/
Conservative Group to Air Anti-Obama Ads
An ad accusing the Illinois Senator of “flip-flopping” on numerous issues will begin airing nationally on Tuesday, according to the group Let Freedom Ring.
#16 texassherry I went on Meetup and typed in Hillary Clinton and it will showed many people wanting to start a Meetup and the ones already started. I found them by accident but I know that it is no accident! United we will change America!
Here is the link to put in your zip code
http://www.meetup.com/
#19 murphy, thank you! Sent you a reply.
#4 #6 Trish & Sherry:
MO appears so insincere in her words and actions. You can tell they have been working on her. In the early days of the campaign she would grit her teeth and roll her eyes during his speeches. You could tell she so disagreed with what he was saying.
Feelin’ fine today on this anniversary of Seneca Falls. Thanks for the history lesson, Murphy. There’s a feel good video on Youtube.com titled “My Wish” by aziachickadee. Enjoy all you PUMAS and welcome back home Murphy.
http://www.youtube.com/video/My Wish/aziachickadee
As the anniversary of the Senica Falls convention is upon us, my thoughts wander beyond our current fight. This election in 2008 is truly historic. Not only did we have our first viable female candidate, but women have begun to participate in ways we never thought of before. The issue is not that a woman be at the helm for a woman being at the helm’s sake, rather that we, the people, need competent government. We elected a competent candidate who happens to be a woman.
I believe the issues we face are not just gender related. They certainly are not race related. They are people issues. We Democrats, have let common sense and competence be pushed aside for party unity many times before. It has yeilded us the likes of Dukakis, Kerry, Mondale and now Obama.
The truth is: The party has always had a destructive element. The back door deal has always been a shadow lurking just behind the curtain. The good ol boys club has always been part and parcel of our existence. The powers in the party accepted it, even nurtured it, using it for personal gain and issue success.
Now the time has come when we can no longer accept the status quo. The will of the people as defined by the one person one vote principle has been disregarded. Moreover, the will of the people has been disregarded since the first election of this century, both in the general election of 2000, and now in the Democratic Primary of 2008.
This fight and our movement isn’t just about the candidates. It is about our party, and in extension, about our nation and the world. We must not lose the fight for the soul of our people. We must not lose the principle of one person, one vote. We must insist on the allowance of participation by all, participation that counts equally with all others’ participation.
The women who gathered in protest to try to obtain the vote stood on just such a principle. They prevailed. It was a long hard battle, but they prevailed. The civil rights movement and voting rights reforms of the 1960’s were successful, and the people prevailed.
We must not go back to the deal making, behind doors double dealing of the precivil rights era. We must go forward, undoing the damage that was recently done; restoring our party to the principles it purports to stand for so that our nation can recover from the blows heaped upon it by the current people in power.
Heneri
thank you go_ohio — I was frantic for a few minutes there, believing the worst about that creep.
Heneri, well stated – thanks
#24 OhOHIO, where are u located? I’m in Ytown.
#15 antifish,
Okay, I did a post over there. I am not going to stay there long enough to get a reaction though.
#21 NoMoreInFL,
Thanks for the link. I will check it out. I get an email from the southwest group but even they all live too far away from me.
#23 TXPuma,
I agree. She is nothing but a phoney. It is so obvious.
#25 Henerietta, well said!
Heneri,
Thank you. I agree with your very eloquent comments. The task before us seems, at times, overwhelming but if we allow ourselves to be guided by determination, we will prevail.
CNN just intervied 3 women who vow to become priests tomorrow. The church said only men could be priests but they vow, “that is their calling and they won’t back down.” Interesting…
Hi Sherry,
I’m going over there now to see what’s happening. Enjoy your coffee!
Senica Falls – could that be the reason that BO has left the country at this specific time so he could try to keep the media focused on him?
HI Again everyone… to amuse those of you who took part in the yestodemocracy craziness yesterday: on todays blog entries at http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/18/has-puma-met-its-match/8#comments
blue moon6:10AMJul 19th 2008
http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacedeno
LOL well y’all really can’t fault the young lady for being ambitious and enterprising {looks like being a 22 year old preschool teacher is just a temporary position on the way to a ~rich & famous~ career. What a hoot if she wins the Newberry Medal before tommy does or something else}
“Christina Cedeno Freelance writer/photographer
Tampa/St. Petersburg, Florida Area
Christina Cedeno’s Summary
To gain industry knowledge of the publishing industry and contribute to a top tier publishing powerhouse.
Christina Cedeno’s Specialties:
The Killers- author of a 451 press music blog.
Inked magazine sex column.
Whoisisabella.com relationship column.
Triangle catalyst sex column.
Christina Cedeno’s Contact Settings
Interested In:
career opportunities – consulting offers – new ventures – job inquiries – expertise requests – business deals – reference requests – getting back in touch”
Maybe she knows Ashley, wasn’t FL where the Girl’s Gone Wild segment was filmed? Yeah, and Cristina is the voice of authority right – heeheehawhawhoohoo just too funny to even consider… But thanks for the brief moment of frivolity wink wink.
blue moon6:17AMJul 19th 2008
Would I cry me a river if Obama were elected -NO. Will I dance by the light of the moon if McCain is President -OF COURSE NOT. Will I go green this year -MAYBE http://www.gp.org/press.php Will I go back to the Democratic Party -VERY UNLIKELY. And whatever the outcome, will the world come to a screeching halt on Nov 4th, 2008 -HIGHLY DOUBTFUL!! {although there are those who surely think the sky is falling b/c they got hit in the head by a chunk of frozen airplane crap}
So while both major parties are being increasingly hijacked by the opposing extremist elements -and the never-ending partisan brawl drags on without a break in sight, is it any wonder that the majority of Americans NEVER bother to vote!! {oh yes we hear all about the tens of 1000s of new voters being registered this year -a mere raindrop in the barrel to the hundreds of millions of those who chose to forgo the melodrama and prepare to hunker down for another 4yrs… the poor, the elderly, the disabled, the weekend/evening/swing workers, single mothers, struggling parents, grandparents trying to raise their grandkids, the list is endless = ie ALL the Americans who for one reason or another don’t have “the means and the LUXURY of attending a CAUCUS” which is held only at a specific time and at very limited locations. Oh sure SenObama won ~fair and square~ in all those caucus states with the youth, the yuppies earning $200,000yr or more, the childless couples, the college profs, and everyone else with more than enough time to kill and resources to burn to “make a whole evening or an afternoon of it -big round of standing ovations”… Ohhh well, to the rest of y’all what can we say = ya snooze you lose peeps.
Personally I suspect that CJ is a “cross-over Republican = as in closet Democrat”. ROFLOL when a smoker quits who always makes the biggest stink about being seated by the “Smoking Section”? Like a reformed sinner/born again evangelical -who then proceeds to condemn the loudest, those now deemed less worthy. Or maybe even like Jim & Tammy Faye tsk tsk, OR better yet Aimee Semple McPherson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Semple_McPherson
Who woulda ever thunk it = C.Jenkins is really a Republican in lamb’s clothing braawhahahahaha {whew hot flash nah just lost in the desert –go get’em Aimee publish your investigation} But doesn’t the anti-Puma look an awfully lot like the Obama girl on youtube LOL
*** NOW THIS IS FUNNY: Peggy 11:44PMJul 18th 2008
“Hey, C.J, just got a call from the McCain campaign. They needed a good address for your check. Seems they tried to direct deposit it per your instructions but the bank returned it. Said your account was overdrawn and they closed it.”
LadyDay and so it goes…
antifish & hillstheone. . . I believe we could come out with a platinum record if we combined our resources.
LOL
I noted a reference to Christina this AM. It seems as though a lot of energy was expended in replying to her incitements yesterday. Personally I think the best thing to do is totatally ignore her. She has her opinions and we have ours.
And this new Republican party ad for the O man:
http://www.bothwaysbarack.com/
We can no long call him a flip-flopper…LOL
Good morning, catching up on the post here
Good morning Murphy and all fellow PUMA’S.
Christina is a piece of shit who is so stupid that she thinks being swarmed by flies is the same thing as being popular.
“Obama author Andy Martin (‘Obama: The Man Behind the Mask’) will participate in a series of private meetings in Palm Beach this weekend; conference is intended to chart future efforts to defeat Barack Obama.”
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
Good Morning all. As my husand turned on the news this morning I asked him to please boycott the stations that sent top correspondents with Obama. I said get info from Fox or internet. He agreed. Out to post flyers this morning.
antifish – “has she met her match?” (re: Christina) Not even in her dreams….
I have shoes older than her.
Some great points on the aol blog though by Katherine… I copied this and will use it as a concise information indictment of this election year… what a great writer.
Katherine10:25AMJul 19th 2008
One more time:
___MEDIA:
Did not vet Obama. Protected and promoted Obama. Never covered his resume, background, or Chicago life accurately. Media never called him on his huge, obvious, blatant lies. Media actually regarded him in terms of a Christ-like figure. Media used sexism and misogyny freely against Hillary (thereby all women). Media pushed theory that misogyny is nothing compared to racism. Media pushed that Hillary supporters were uneducated and racist. Media called for Hillary to quit since Iowa, and that is unprecedented. Media via Obama’s camp pushed that Senator Clinton and former President Clinton were racists. Online media, such as big blogs, censored and attacked Hillary supporters, and the online media was just as bad, if not worse than mainstream media. Wacky inaccurate polls showing Obama winning huge but then Hillary winning. Why would the majority of the media “be in the tank” for Obama? Is it possible that only 6% of the media is owned by women and maybe it’s a sexist business: yes. Is it possible that media consolidation, in which only a few very wealthy people, billionaires, each own huge chunks of magazines, newspapers, and TV shows…and their agenda is to push their personal politics via the media? Yes. Is it possible that people were bought off or promised favors? Yes.
**Never trust the media when they are so obviously pushing PROPAGANDA: it is half the reason why we went to war.
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___DEM PARTY ELITE:
The never called out the media for crossing the line with racist accusations, and also their misogyny, and crowning of Obama. Howard Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy,et al, etc etc calling for Hillary to stop, or insulting her, or insulting her supporters, and all the while putting HIGH pressure on superdelegates to endorse their candidate, AGAIN: totally unprecedented, the superdelegates vote in August, and they can change their minds whenever they want, however they were pressured to choose, and to choose Obama. Furthermore: superdelegates went against their own state’s wishes. Hillary would win a state like Mass, and Kerry and Kennedy would immediately come out to endorse Obama, and that is antithetical to their position. Superdelegates also came out to endorse every time Obama had a very bad time, like Wright= Richardson endorsement. W. Virginia= Edwards, and on and on. It felt like they were pocket supers and there was a rigging, frankly.
**Always look to a deeper question on why one candidate is seemingly pre-chosen: is it possible that money is behind it? Is it possible that candidates are pre-chosen–as in groomed, and protected and promoted? Is it possible that careers were threatened in that cold political way? Is it possible that politicians are crooked and greedy and do not have the best interests in mind for America as a nation? Yes. Is it possible that politicians are forced to give favors in order to survive in politics. Yes.
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Ok, these two things alone were very apparent to hard-core Hillary supporters. Then:
___The VOTES: May 31, 2008
Throw in the rules and bylaws committee, not only had the states been erased (which was never in the rules: half a vote was always and ONLY the rules), they then severed the two states Hillary won by half, and claimed that to be a gift, when it was always the rules in the first place, but THEN they also handed over MI delegates to Obama, even though he removed himself from the ticket because the polls showed he would lose. He was even on the ticket: they gave him delegates. That’s now not only silencing votes but stealing votes. AND: it was determined in part by Donna Brazille who was so obviously pro-Obama on CNN and elsewhere, yet one who claimed to be neutral. So, she had a “neutral” vote, and that was not the truth. Brazille also stated that she did not need Hillary’s voters for Obama to win, she said it was a new party. Ok, dumb thing to say. Also, the entire rules committee had a behind the scenes closed door meeting the whole night before. Who knows what went down. The public was shut out.
Then, there are the wowers:
Obama won states by caucus, when they matter very little in the general election. So we would see a small red republican state won by caucus to Obama, when a large blue dem state that voted 300% higher would matter LESS than a pumy amount of people at a caucus. Very backwards, also unfair since Hillary voters were not the bloc of people likely to make it to caucuses in the day time. Also, our military overseas, our citizens overseas, homebound people, and hospitalized people, etc, can not make it to caucuses–obviously. That’s not right, anyway, but Obama’s moveon crowd bussed his voters in to precincts, and we now know that Hillary voters were lied to, re-routed to a non-location, and also locked out of venues, or told that there were cancellations, or the environment was so mosh-pit like, people left or experienced hell, so while Hillary dems were getting shut out, Obama supporters were allowed to stroll in after shut-door time. There are many cases of suspected voting fraud, in many precincts as well, and there will be more info on that.
***Hillary won the popular vote, MI and FL do count. Hillary won the major big blue dem states. Hillary won the major purple swing states. Hillary polled toward the electoral college showed Hillary beating McCain and big, and McCain beating Obama big. Hillary gathered the majority of the dem party voting blocs. Hillary was outspent 4 to 1, while having the media and her party attacking her, and she still kept winning. There ALSO exit polls showing that way more Hillary dems would NOT vote for Obama compared to Obama voters who would not vote for Hillary if she won. Throw in that Hillary has more experience and she’s an actual true democrat with democratic principles: Hillary was and still is the one to beat McCain. It’s just logical.
–So, for those many reasons I am indignant over the Media, the dem party elite, and the dem party manipulations as a whole. I feel that Obama was selected and not elected. I feel that it was just politically fixed and maneuvered in such an obvious and shameless manner…I will not be FORCED to vote a certain way. The dem party has a lot of cleaning up to do, and if WE don’t do it? WHO WILL? WHO? The American people need to rein in politicians when they get too much power. They ARE working for US. WE are their bosses!! A couple of hundred rich elites should not be in control of our destiny, especially when they do not vote in line of the will of those who voted in their own states, people who elected them! It can’t be that way, the people should have the word.
–Anyway, I can add a lot more, but there the media and the dem party complaint in a nutshell.
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And, I didn’t even mention why I will not vote for Obama because of OBAMA yet!! My gawd he is a total fraud, from his upbringing, to his “present” votes, to his voting for Bush’s FISA bill, and Cheney’s energy bill, and planning on expanding Bush’s faith based programs (separation of church and state!) to receiving money from convicted Tony Rezko, a man who also raised 3 million for BUSH in Chicago for his second term….from the bogus policies Obama claims are his, while his votes show the opposite, to promising one group one thing and then opposite group what they want, and on and on, I could write a book. LITERALLY write a book on how much Obama has lied, and on how false he is, and how he is just a groomed and boosted politician who is actually just an opportunist, and a foolishly ruthless man, someone who has made so many promises, I don’t even know what he’d have to do as far as favors in return–political quid pro quo. Beyond that, he is intolerably arrogant–he’s bordering on megalomania, which is heinously dangerous.
Also, I do NOT see Obama as a democrat–AT ALL! I see him as a man who is confused and drunk on power, someone who wants to change America because he hates America and I’m not sure that he actually wants to make America better or if he simply wants to destroy capitalism, or maybe he is totally corporate/ republican minded for himself, or maybe he is a communist, or maybe he is anti-Israel and wants to start a war in some dumb way, maybe he wants to flip flop our allies for our enemies, maybe he wants to ban guns and start up a USA-style gestapo, or maybe he hates white people and wants to force them to pay reparations, or maybe he hates black people since he let them live in 30 degrees below zero Chicago winters for two months, or maybe he wants to rule the world, or maybe he is a sociopath, or maybe he is just a puppet. On and on.
—BOTTOM LINE: People do not trust him. He won’t win in the end because the media never reported enough about what people know, so they see it as a cover-up. All things should have been covered thoroughly and if they were false–prove it, all of that should have happened over 6 months ago. He’s been jammed down people’s throats, people run away from that, and we can see that others embrace and do not question.
There is not one reason for me to trust Obama, NOT ONE. He’s a pathological liar, and he barely has a record, and what little he does have is actually awful. Also, I’m tired of the bogus theory that Obama is stopping any war–like there would be peace. He wants us in Iraq for the next two years, and then refocus our military on fighting in Afghanistan. War is war no matter where. Looks like we will be at war for at least 5 years longer with either McCain or Obama.
Ok, you know I can add a lot more, and with details, etc. I am done. I’ve said what I have to say on this.
Henrietta – I think you have touched on the chord that is vibrating the most in the midst of all the work we are doing here–we are rebirthing this constitution, evolving it as well to include the new world order and millions of disenfranchised. What started out as outrage for a worthy candidate’s dismissal and her voters has become a call to wake up America to our constitutional purpose and the moral ethics of basic respect to the multitude of voters.
Sista Christian over at Hireheels received this comment from one of the shit-flies, Big Papa. nice name by the way. Very subtle. Very secure and manly. What’s that you say? Projection? Nahhh! no way! I’m sure he is VERY BIG and MANLY just like he says he is.
here’s the comment, stay classy Obama Movement, stay classy:
“You racist PUMA (pu$$ie$)CeeRackers aren’t fooling anybody. You hate Obama because he’s a strong, intelligent and accomplished Black man. You racist, man-hating pigettes are nothing but right wing trash, who are soon going to be extinct in the NEW America. There is a new generation rising to destroy you right wing conservative, racist female dogs, and male pigs. You’re all squealing demons who are going to Hell, and the world will be a much better place without you all! Say hello to the next POTUS- Barack Hussein Obama…you scummy beeeeotches!”
#47 bmw60,
I agree. I don’t want to waste that much time with them so I just tell them to research before opening their mouths and that they are in for a big surprise in November if they doubt the power of Puma.
A lot of people have given good information to the Obama supporters but they are so thick skulled that they won’t listen so that is why I tell them to research for themselves. Hopefully a few will and then maybe they will see the truth.
#43 murphy
lol Murphy, that just made my day!
what a beautiful & brilliant piece of writing
THANK YOU MURPHY
Okay I do not know how to cut and paste and do all that othe rcomputer stuff but someone sent this to me. http://exposeobama.com. Interesting.
#43 – Murphy:)
Yeppers!!! Christina is a “legend in her own mind”. Must be lonely there.. LOL
#38 mpdamon: I second your motion!!!
It’s my impression that they will only serve to spread the word about Puma and, frankly, their little minds cannot be touched by the element of truth. Let ‘em rant!!! The echo chamber inside their heads, especially Christine’s must be overwhelming!!!
I was able to talk to the lady who is doing the financing for our new car.. .. she may be a new PUMA… if not here, in her heart… she brought up the subject in conversation and I sent her the information from Katherine above (I had already given her a flier and she appreciated it)… and the new Republican O ad… so it works to talk to everyone folks.
#49 murphy,
I really hope this is not a reflection of the New Democratic system and the next generation of leaders. God help us all if it is.
Oh well, no one will ever accuse the Obamabots of being a class act. Why is it thatthey can’t defend their candidate without attacking everyone else? Must be there’s nothing to defend.
There are many out there still confused as to what to do during the election… we still have time!!!
Murphy, do BO and MO realize what wonderful people they have in their minions?
THIS is part of NEW America? Isn’t this the stuff we scrape out of our drainpipes and throw in landfills?
I know this does not comprise the entire makeup of his followers, but it represents a significant number, and THAT is frightening. What will they do when he doesn’t win? How will they channel that lovely energy they spew?
God help us.
Storytellers et al, thank you very much, but I did NOT write the Declaration of Sentiments — oops! I thought it was well-known that this Declaration has been circulating. Ladyboomer NYC wrote it, and the Seneca 160 folks made some changes — geez I feel like a heel. as soon as I’ve posted this comment I’ll update the main page.
Check out Ladyboomer’s beautiful blog.
http://ladyboomernyc.wordpress.com/
And here’s the site for Seneca 160
http://seneca160.com/
WOW MURPHY… SOUND LIKE THE ONE I GOT FROM unheardamericanvoices.com… posted it here yesterday and on the tom abrams blog… he couldn’t even post it without editing the cuss words.. sent me an email to that effect!
#49 – Murphy:
Wow, what eloquent rhetoric.. NOT!!! I guess that’s another example of Nobama’s Unity… nope, nada, they can definitely “keep the change”.
bmw60 — please email me the comment you received. I’m a bit behind on reading everything.
thanks!
Today I’m sending e-mails to the networks asking why we have to be subjected to hours of Obama pandering.
Then I’ll send letters to European newspapers pointing out the obvious ( to us at least ): that Obama is a PRESUMPTIVE nominee, that many Americans oppose him, and that he’s using the citizens and media of other countries to furthur his own agenda. I may also suggest that ( for a small fee of course ) we will be willing to provide a state ( i.e., Mt Rustmore, Statue of Liberty, Lincoln Memorial ) to aspiring European politicians.
should be “stage”
As for Christina or any other copy-dogs (don’t want to dishonor cats…) who attempt anti-PUMA chatter or websites, you are right–they only serve to give us more notice. Surely the only ones who will visit those sites are their own kind, just dogs chasing their own tails…
They will get nowhere.
Remember, PUMAs, we stalk. We watch. We wait. We pounce.
bmw60
Are you sure you didn’t mean 2 year old preschooler?
Guess OB picked up on the section about “Business Deals”
#49 Murphy,
Wow! Do these people have parents? Where were they when they were growing up? Unbelievable! Maybe they really are pod people? Anyway, on the same note watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2jaWbtWp4Q&feature=email
I do not keep track of all the names, therefore I could not recognize if they are PUMASor not, of course I do recognize the most common…..
I was thinking that if could be a troll , the incendent where the bolgger made unfortunate comentary, they got themself so carried away with manipulation, they could blog here some trash and get on our back immediately for it
*61 brings out the ‘dictator’ in his aspiring followers.
I’ll not be justifying or validating “Christina” with any form of response on her site. I have no need for negativity from a 22 year old who hasn’t even lived life long enough to form an educated opinion on anything. I certainly wouldn’t dream of telling my Pumas what to do, just my mode of action.
Agree on the action of contacting network heads to protest the anchor-adoration of BO’s European visit. I’ve already written a few comments to European papers on line, but this also needs to go to network headquarters. They are responsible for this travesty.
Was just on my way out the door – so don’t know all the story about Christina – think she is teacher and a reporter??? Anyway – what WE NEED TO DO as Pumas is find a reporter that is up and coming and needs attention from the media – feed him or her all the information and true facts and make it a win win situation for all of us – I think I recall that EWard had a listing of some such upcoming reporters – I would write it up for them but I do not have the talents of Antifish, GoAndersen, and Dragonfly – ok – I am off – my two cents for the day.
Thank you, Big Papa. Thank you, thank you.
I’ve been trying to think of a good way to get the message across that there is NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO TURN OUR COUNTRY OVER TO INSANE MEGALOMANIACS LIKE YOU AND YOUR SELECTED MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!
#64 mpdamon
that is a very good idea
the media in europe is talking about the presidential candidate, and the future USA president(because is so way ahead in the polls)
the midea is so hijacked
that even abroad they keep misinforming
#68 antifish
i think many of them are from the ME generation. We all saw them grow up and were focused only on themselves. Those are the people who entered the workforce expecting to be Management on day one. They were never told you work your way up the ladder and they were greatly disillusioned when reality hit. I love interviewing these kids and asking their salary expectations, many want more than the bosses make. But the best part is watching them open their first pay and seeing their eyes cross when they realize their is this little thing called taxes.
OK and I agree with Lin4Hill regarding comments in the European newspapers – back in the old HRC days – Wizard and a couple of others did that and the whiner complained that the reason he did not go to West Virginia and Kentucky was because of the negative posts and media attention there – lets help him out a little.
#77 Goalucard4Hill
Hey there
Sending a big ole PUMA hug out to you just cause I missed you.
I am really really going out the door – but storyteller – what I think should be done in the European newspapers is quote polls as well – since everyone only knows what CNN is betraying – in addition to all the other little flip flops that he does that they might not be involved in – and in particular something that would effect Europes viewpoints like in Iraq etc.
HEY TRISH – BIG PUMA HUGS TO YOU – and I am gone for the day —-
From Andy Martin: Contrarian Commentary regarding *61’s “World Tour.”
“One of Obama’s African-American ‘advisers,’ Susan Rice, was quoted as saying Obama is going to ‘demand’ more of a contribution from Europe in world affairs. I am sure the British are going to take wonderfully to having a Kenyan order them around. The Lion King will be lecturing the lion tamers.
“The British will also be delighted to learn that Germany is going to be the centerpiece of Obama’s photo-ops. So much for loyalty. By the end of this trip Obama will have advertised to the entire world that he is an arrogant twit with an ego the size of a ham.
I’m having a little bit of trouble scrolling up the page (mouse issues) but I did see a few comments directed to me.
I’d like to everyone for their hospitality towards me. I am proud to have fought for this country. I have emailed my friends overseas and they have informed me that there are more members of the military who know how bad *61 is than the DNC would care to admit (or believe.)
So I don’t think we have much to worry about there…but it would be a good idea to inform those you know who are overseas. The more we inform, the more ammo (bad choice of wording there) they’ll have when/if they muct defend their choice for President.
Not sure if I’ll be on anymore today (I’ll def. try) I’m taking my daughter to the zoo. It should be…fun? Me, with a cane, but it will be worth it…she’s been begging me to go. She wants to see the Polar bears…
my secret: I do too
Big Papa is prolly Christine’s 14 yr old brother.
This is Marc4Hill btw…my password was acting up and ClintonRules allowed me to use hers…
i meant to put that in my comment…but forgot….sorry!
I’m using hers (with all due respect to her privacy) we are friends and I would never do anything to undermine that.
There we go
I’m on now
I think Christina is either Tommy Christopher’s alter ego or Tommy Christopher in drag.
Well thank heavens that Big Papa included us MALE PIGS in the Puma organization… LOL
#86 ChristineRI,
LOL!
Can you imagine the media scrambling when BO loses. I would guess CNN and MSNBC will blame it all on Hillary and racism, and FOX will just sit back and smile, saying under their breath “We told you so”.
Hi Goalucard,
I was going to speak, but thought you were gone..Glad to have you back!
I just got off the phone with my mom and read that letter Murphy you posted. I just love how via internet people say things to make them sound so tough and scary and it gives them a free pass to be as nasty as they can be. #49 and #83 MountainSong I agree with you there.
Cnn just did a fact check on OB’s TV ad and believe it or not they found out it wasn’t all true.. Yes you heard me they actually said he wasn’t being totally truthfully , now they didn’t use that word but said they found that he didn’t work to put himself through school as stated he only had two jobs in the summer.
Thank you Antifish – could never LEAVE YOU for too long – you know that – yes I am still lurking – just waiting for the grandkids – meeting up with Marc at the zoo – not the same zoo – but the zoo as well -
Antifish – you really could come up with a good letter for the editors of the newspapers in Europe – I love your writing style – always have – just the points like Kathleen on post above – shortened for the newspapers regarding the DNC, the Media in the US, the polls – Rasmussen and Gallop = with only one percent or two percent differences when it was the Democrats time to take off after Bush leaves – the flip flops – the issues that no name one is pressing that is not in the best interest of Europe or the rest of the world – can throw in his own little civilian milita – if we could come up with a condensed version of all of this – people would be booing him rather than saluting him.
OK – grandkids are pulling at my leg to go go go – so I am gone gone gone – no more lurking for today.
Drac
Don’t know if this would interest anybody but I just got it in my email so I thought I would share (don’t know if I’ll listen)The Politics of Pooh-Pooh Origins
Today, July 19, 2008 5:00 PM EST
Clintons4McCain Radio
“Is Winnie the Pooh’s Birth Certificate More Authentic than Obama’s?”
Join us Today, July 19, 2008 at 5 PM EST on Clintons4McCain Radio Clintons4McCain special guest, Judi McLead with the Canada Free Press reveals her sources and takes us down discovery lane as she unravels the mystery of the Obama Birth Certificate…only to end up in Pooh Corner.
Discuss this article and it’s origins with the journalist herself by calling 341-633-9273.
Find out today if ‘Winnie the Pooh’s Birth Certificate is more authentic than Obama’s.’
#89 Middle age female,
You are absolutely right, they will blame it on Hillary and racism. There is no doubt they will spin it that direction. In reality though, the blame falls squarely on the DNC, Nobama, and the media. We have to make sure that people know this when Nobama loses. They will also blame groups like ours.
Got to go,have a great day all.
OK – I lied – one of them had to go to the bathroom first so I could post a little more – Rasmussen Reports shows only a 2 point lead for no name – but with leaners tied – in the Carolinas both are tied at 44% – and half of the voters have an unfavorable view of the Democrat – Rasmussen shows a lot of close States for them both and some that McCain is ahead by double digits -
Ok – grandkids back – they have their water – they have gone to the bathroom and I am shutting off the computer – not going to read another thing – LOL
I guess they have their own dictionary,too! Guess we missed the article where OB changed it.
Well you all have a great day. I managed to piece together and copy some money I still had left and I am off to West Virginia ( from Maryland) today.
Big flea market and C A S I N O !! OHHH my hopes are high!
YES FRED – I am breaking a sweat. Over 90 here today!!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
Good morning all.. just got a minute and then I have to go help my brother celebrate his bd! Happy to see you all!
Hi goalucard — great to see you!
good point about having a media contact with an interested ear — I think have one now.
Thank you for all your work!
On FOX website, Iraqui leaders backs *61 timetable! Me thinks ‘outside’ influencing just a few months out is too obvious!!!
#100 murphy … will you please check your email –
Subject:
“WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT – IMPORTANT”
okay I hope you looked at the polls I posted! I have to go got an hour’s drive ahead of me..you all have a wonderful day!
Of course the DNC will blame Hillary when they lose. The DNC is just a bunch of power grubbing elitists. It will be a major war to get these people out of the party. I actually think the most effective way to deal with them is to leave the dysfunctional Democrat party to them and let them continue doing the ineffective things they do which will keep them busy. Then quietly form a new party that represents real people and their needs. The fact that the BO folks and DNC passionately dislike us will just give us more credibility with real people. And as far as the Media go I think they have destroyed any credibility they had with thinking Americans. They have made themselves a joke and if it weren’t for the fact that they hold a monopoly over the TV system and act as gatekeepers of who has a voice, they would be out of business. the only current reason anyone subscribes to TV service is for sports. The rest of the programing is generally assumed to be garbage.
okay — wontbackdown — checkng now
#49 murphy… “You racist PUMA (pu$$ie$)CeeRackers aren’t fooling anybody. You hate Obama because he’s a strong, intelligent and accomplished Black man.”
This one needs a BIB dose of a BIG mac truck, chain saw, cement mixer, and just in case, a nice little splash in great white shark infested waters. IMO.
wontabackdown — you have mail.
#106 wontbackdown… sorry. I really should have been more sensitive in saying that.
…I don’t think there is a great “black” shark, is there?
#107 murphy… OK. Thank you. Going there now.
dear lord wontbackdown — the world is turned so upside down that idiots will think your comment is racist.
my head hurts.
ugh.
#110 murphy ,
Did you have a chance to look at any of the videos etc. that I sent you? I hope you like them. Will Bower posted a couple of them on his site. I asked him to since our action center was down so that everyone could see them.
I told all the reporters PUMA People United Means Action but they obviously like Guila’s Puma People United My A** better because that was the only one mentioned. Oh well, I tried. At least our cause got some media attention.
#4TrishfromCanada: Well, Trish, since your visit to BloughHer, they have managed to scoop up a number of sycophants to gush about what an honor to have the $600 ear ring chick on the site. What a phony.
#15 Antifish-
I responded to that article on the anti-puma. She is a typical Obamabot.
I have met Christina Cedeno on various blogs and if you challenge her on any of the issues she generally resorts to insults, name calling and race baiting. She cannot debate the issues. She was the one who posted Murphy’s documents on the internet without blanking out her home address,under the pretext of displaying “proof” that Murph was a Repupublican conspirator. The so called proof was an eight year old donation to McCain during his primary campaign against Bush. The posting of the address was a clear attempt to intimidate her. Christine’s Obamabots have even made death threats, but it will not serve them.
Reposting from downstairs:
http://www.hillpac.com/action/hhspetition/?sc=2493
Senator Clinton is requesting we sign this petition against a bill that would redefine abortion to include things such as the “pill” and an “iud” in addition to “Plan B”. Full news article in last night’s thread.
texassherry — no I’m sorry I have NOT seen your videos. am mad that I dont have more time.
I will most surely put them in the new Action Center. Should have a new one up by tomorrow.
You were AMAZING in Texas!! I read the comments about it — NICE job!
Please read my post, #44 (and 81 for a little satire/humor.)
Andy Martin’s book to be released on the 25th will be getting a lot of attention.
It may help build our momentum.
Leaving for the day now.
Hello Pumas, Strong woman here who has also raised three stong, caring and compassionate children, 2 girls and 1 boy. My first born is a 21 year old who is brilliant and tough as nails…Her name is SENECA….I have always supported and been part of women’s issues, this is truly a great day. Woman can do anything!
Even A. Huffington is confused about Obama……she said,
My problem isn’t that Barack Obama doesn’t always agree with me. My problem is that Barack Obama has started to not always agree with himself — falling prey instead to the Conventional Wisdom sirens
HAh
Fabulous article by miq2xu over at riverdaughter’s place about the death of the Obama fad.
music to my ears baby.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/unsavory-savior/
#115 murphy ,
Thank you. By the way Marylandpuma did an excellent job while you were away. I was really nervous about going to the rally and she gave me the support that I needed to build my confidence .
I’m only on for a few – still ill and my AC compressor just went up in the AC for the house.
For the website, I have most if not all of the documents.
Murphy – please let me know who to send them to.
Good afternoon, all,
I haven’t really read all of the posts this morning, but in case this has not been posted yet, this is an article from US News and World Reports about our movement. Larry Johnson at NoQuarter asks that we go and post a thank you to the journalist–show her a little love. So go purrr on her site!
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/7/18/anti-obama-democrats-pelosis-bush-blast-and-red-states-in-play.html?msg=1
Let them “blame” us if they lose. We will take “credit” for upsetting their forgery. I will take out the world’s smallest violin and pinch it between my thumb and index finger and play them a sorrowful tune.
The we’ll break out the band and have a victory party like no one has seen before, because we would have conquered over their deceit and weathered through their ridiculous accusations and rants towards us. They will be stumbling through the detritus of their arrogance, looking for direction, while we rebuild this democratic party or create a newer and better party of the people.
the post
it is just NO COMMENTS
I never heard of anything like this, except the comments from the islamist radicals
BO: Do As I Say, Not As I Do
Today’s WaPo editorial points to BO’s hypocrisy when it comes to the campaign financing law he touts as one of his legislative achievements.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/18/AR2008071802595.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Hi All,
The wretched comments by Big Papa were not surprising. I always knew that was the sort of ilk that supported BO.
#110 murphy… You cannot imagine the news coverage here the other day over one of our council members making a policy issue related comment about it: “‘Falling into a black hole”
One black council member went ballistic – called it a racially insensitive statement (complained that we say “black light is bad – white light is good”, etc., etc., etc.)
It was all over our news for three days.
I’ve been re-thinking my classic black cocktail dress.
Would someone please tell me which one is NOW politically correct? I cannot figure it out!
I forget not everyone is from my city.
Murphy until things are settled can you please remove the link to actionpac center?
murphy..until things are settled can you please remove the link to actionpac?
won’t backdown…were you the one looking for donor link?
re: The contact list of the DNC rules committee chairs . . .
Sunita Leeds’ name was missing, although her email address was sandwiched between the other two names. It should read:
David WaltersPresident, Walters Power International Email: david@walterspower.com
Phone: (405) 528-2860
Fax: (405) 528-2466
Sunita Leeds
Email: leeds@dnc.org
Phone: (202) 863-8000
Mary Rose Oakar President, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Email: president@adc.org
Phone: (202) 244-2990 Fax: (202) 244-7968
#118 vonay – “My problem isn’t that Barack Obama doesn’t always agree with me. My problem is that Barack Obama has started to not always agree with himself — ”
Good one vonay! I am still laughing. I am going to have to use that one. I think I have gone up to your post three times now to re-read those two sentences.
#130 Taffy… No Taffy, it wasn’t me.
I tried the leeds@dnc.org and that came back as well. I called the office Friday, but no one seems to know who she is.
there is going to be a global harassment to anyone who dissent with what he is doing
maybe they have seen themself portrayed in the entries which VERY WELL DESCRIBES the techniques of leaders movements,but also all those techniques apply to destructive sects, totalitarian goverments brain-washing, etc
the conclusions are open……….. to anyones interpretetion..”””???????
… P.S. I really do not believe that I am “racist” and neither do my African American friends.
In fact, they don’t trust Obama either and think the whole racist issue is a crock and doing damage to race relations rather than bringing constuctive awarness and dialog.
They blame his “political ambition” and think him to be an ‘opportunistic fake at the expense of African Americans.’ You would not believe the number that do believe he is more ‘Muslim-oriented’ in political culture than African Amercian Christian heritage. They just do not talk about it with his ‘radical ’supporters’.
REPOST FROM YESTERDAY
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http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/18/friday-night-poetry-and-full-moon/#comments
#507 cosmeta on 07.19.08 at 2:39 am
Murphy,
I DO have some files that I downloaded from the Action Center and can email them to you if you need/want them.
PUMAPACUSA.ORG ACTION CENTER DOCUMENTS
Brazillesaidpostcard.pdf
DemsUniteflyer-Spanish.pdf
LGBT Flyer.doc
lookfamiliarpostcards.pdf
MARYLAND-PUMA-Flier-1.pdf
PA4HILL08-Flier-1.pdf
PA4HILLPUMAPAC-Flyer.doc
PUMAflyer08-bluestar4.pdf
PUMAflyer3-11.pdf
PUMAflyer3-111.pdf
SunnyPA-Pamphlet-Seniors.pdf
Wantmyvotepostcards.pdf
DAILY GROWLS
2008 0701 Open Letter.doc
2008 0701 Open Letter.doc
2008 0701.pdf – Cartoon
2008 0702.pdf – Bully Police USA
2008 0703.pdf – Mirror, Mirror, On the Wall Cards
2008 0704.pdf – Independence DAy
2008 0709 txt – Letter to Press 5 day action.txt
2008 0709.doc – Letter to Press 5 day action.doc
2008 0709.pdf – Letter to Press 5 day action.pdf
I also have a download of the MEDIA PAGE in HTML format on my pc.
From my own online downloads:
DNC DOCUMENTS
2004_DNC Platform.pdf
2006_DNC-Rules-and-Bylaws.pdf
2008_DNC Rules & Bylaws.pdf
DNC_CALL_February-2-2007.pdf
FLORIDA LAWSUITS
Geller-Order-5-27-08.pdf
Geller-Summons-5-22-08.pdf
HILLARY’S LETTER TO THE SUPERDELEGATES
rightchoice.pdf
MO ONLINE DOCUMENTS
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_26-501.pdf
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_51-751.pdf
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_76-981.pdf
Write me email and I can send them to you if you do not have any of the above.
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/18/friday-night-poetry-and-full-moon/#comments
Note: I would like you to know, that from day one, I have been saving in html format all the daily threads from here; as well as converting them into the .txt format. So if you ever need or want them to put up someplace or for your own records, I DO have them; and will continue to collect them as long as I can.
Just a thought…we have some excellent writers here…maybe we need to pull up the DNC rules we are pretty sure Dean etc. are planning on violating and send to Hannity or abrahamson ahead of time??? Maybe get media exposure before the fact so if it happens we can show people IN TRUTH it was not a democratic selection???? JMO
Í would no worry,or in fact I would not even pay any attention on what cristina cedeno has to say
a reading of her facial expresion would give you the answer
Murphy:
Do you know if any of the puma’s have contacts with the BBC. They are well respected and a worthy news advocate for us around the world.
At least we would have a voice to counter CNN.
In the tank: Worshipping media to follow Obama around the world; Update & Bump: AOL Hot Seat Poll
posted at 11:50 am on July 19, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Hillary Clinton’s campaign complained loudly that the media treated Barack Obama like a rock star instead of a presidential candidate. Saturday Night Live made itself relevant for the first time in a generation by skewering the love affair that the mainstream media had with Obama, finally embarrassing them into asking a few tough questions of Obama — after more than a year. Now, with Obama embarking on his world tour, all three broadcast networks will have their anchors trailing him, apparently hoping to record every bon mot that escapes from his lips:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/19/in-the-tank-worshipping-media-to-follow-obama-around-the-world/
Hello to my fellow PUMAS.. I got four e-mails today that I do not understand. They all say the same thing, but with different names.
“This is a warning message only. Delivery to following recipients has been delayed.
1) llnch@uswa.org
2) rudyruthgay@aol
3) ronalddonaliucci@aol.com
4) vote@kanjorski.org
What’s up with that??
#53 4hillinca I can’t copy and paste either. I have two pcs: Dell Windows XP and HP Windows Vista. Neither one has made me any smarter.. LOL
PUMA POWER
Bonnie
=^..^=
sorry
that’s abrahams If we’re going to ask for help should at least write name correctly I apologize 
Precious is in Afghanistan – should be interesting to see what the MSM says about that – guess I’ll check in at Fox & see what they have to say – they were really on them last night – saying that all of the MSM are in the tank for *61 and just love him – why? what is there? I think he looks like alfred e neuman, has a problem with English without a teleprompter, associated with crooks (and they(whoever they are) always say one is known by the company one keeps), he has no record of accomplishments that are in any way meaningful, he needs 300 people to advise him on foreign affairs – gawd almighty – is he comparing himself to the Spartans – LOL – that scrawny arugula eatin’ wimpy girly man – oh Hillary, where are you???
#136 wontbackdown… I will say it again. If you could hear the story my friend from Cuba tells about how Castro deceived them by getting them involved in his “movement to change” the government, it would make your hair stand on end as to the similarties to Obama. The similarities fae out-weigh the differences.
I hate to think about what the man’s agenda is – and he is darn sure not going to tell us, anymore than Castro told his followers, until it was way too late to stop it.
#144 Susie1945: It would have been reeeeeal nice had he visited all of the states in America like Hillary first.
4hill and cats the long way but easier to understand……..Put cursor at beginning or end of what you want to copy and hold down shift key. move cursor and highlight in blue all you want to copy. go to edit and select copy..then go to box for reply click cursor there and then go back to edit and hit paste. copied piece will show up in reply box.
for a new piece of article repeat the process.
if you want to add text above what you have pasted go in front of first pasted piece and hit return a couple of times. You can then move your cursor back up to the freed up space and add your comments.
Hope this helps.
#21 NoMoreInFL Hi, the meetup groups live too far from me also. One is in Jax and the other in Orlando. Where are you?
#145 wontbackdown… P.S. If you think it cannot happen in America, just take a look at his radical followers and how easy it is for them to incite racial hate.
It does not take a lot of people to do a whole lot of damage really fast, especially when your moral compass is pointing to a “leader” that 1) incites it 2) encourages it 3) ignores it 4) denies it 5) uses it to his full advantage over an entire political party
#121 Maryland PUMA
Please feel better!
#106 wontbackdown
I understood what you meant, but …
#145 wontbackdown
This is my greatest concern about this man, whom, by the way, is mostly caucasian and arab. Nothing seems to be mentioned much about this. Hmmm.
#49 Murphy I think we should collect all these death threats and horrible posts and fax them to Pelosi and Dean. Also, the supers should be aware of this.
…especially when your moral compass is [being led by] a “leader” that 1) incites it 2) encourages it 3) ignores it 4) denies it 5) uses it to his full advantage over an entire political party
ladyhawkke I had the same problem with our meetup groups so Jamie who is head of it here in Ohio is going to set up a connect for us to get something started closer to where I live in Ohio , maybe you can connect someone and get something started closer to you.
Hi Puma’s Happy Birthday.
I sent Hannity a copy of the vido antifish.
The very first thing we see when signing in is that beautiful article. Today my family will be celebrating with a cook out, and we are going to discuss the women before us, the women in our lives now that had made a difference.
All of us are making a difference, every single day.
Please stay positive and don’t let crude remarks upset you, not today. These folks are trying to get a reaction. Sometimes it’s best to walk away from all that crap.
I love you all, have a great day.
This is so cool I get to share my birthday with such a special day Happy Birthday Seneca Falls
I read a comment on one of the blogs – don’t remember which one – that said “there’s a new group – Obama & the 3 Anchors – will they be putting out an album & selling tee shirts when they return from their overseas tour? – It’s kinda funny but also very, very sad – the media used to call themselves the 4th estate & worked with the governmental agencies to make sure that what was published was accurate – where are the investigative journalists – the media is all controlled by major corporations who are more interested in profit than truth – I believe the little newspapers are the only ones who would have the guts to print the whole truth about *61……………I also think that more people read their local papers than read the larger ones so think I will try to compile a list of the smaller papers in my state and see what kind of response I get to editorial letters or opinion pieces………………we gotta get the word out somehow & this might be a way to reach people who don’t have computers or if they do, do not blog……………………
I’m still trying to rid myself of Fred’s posters surreptitiously as you can’t just past them out. This morning, at Walmart, I folded them and placed them inside of motorcycle and gun magazines!
Murphy,
As per our telephone convo….
Have tried to email your alternate…
But,
My email was returned to me…
Prompt said,
Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:
Recipient address: XXXX@youremail.xxx
Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
Diagnostic code: smtp;xxx.x.x.x1 Not our Customer
If you have a spam filter, you might have to unblock me or place my email address on your White List.
No offense, BHO
It is what it is.
LOL
#21 NoMoreInFL,
I checked out the meeting site and typed in my zip code but unfortunatley there was nothing for Hillary or Puma. All I found was Ron Paul supporters and that isn’t even an option for me.
This from one of his supporters: “When you’re on a mission for the world, you’re on a mission for GOD. Go Barack!” Bernard.
Keep hitting them hard with logic, diplomacy and grace and watch them crumble. It may not be a bad idea to remind people that Puma Pac is just one group and that JSND had raised close to 10 million. They seem to want to use the numbers raised for June by our group alone. It doesn’t look as if they are still underestimating us but they are sure trying to fool the public into believing that we minute are quite insignificant.
I found this that I’ve never seen before. Can you believe what Michelle says about Hillary here? Unbelievable. I hate these people.
http://www.hellnobama.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc
151 ladyhawkke
I second your recommendation!!!
send them to Dean, Pelosi, the superdelegates and also to Hillary, I think she and/or her people need to see what’s going on out here.
Keep on truckin’ for this noble cause
This is going to be my first and last post. I came to check out your group at the recommendation of my dear friend MarylandPUMA. She has been so excited to be part of your movement that I wanted to see for myself the “great group of women” she is always talking about. I disagree with your position, but because I know MarylandPUMA to be an intelligent woman I wanted to give you all a look-see out of respect for her.
All was well until I got to Murphy’s post this morning about one of her detractors being a “piece of shit”, and her supporters “shit-flies”. I was stunned. This is how a woman smart enough to put a group like this together responds to adversity? With name calling and vulgarity? On a public site where I’d think she’d want to make a good impression on folks like me visiting for the first time? Well, she made an impression, but it was far from good. There is so much low-class mud-slinging going on in politics right now, I was hoping this group would be above it. And maybe most of you are, but if your leader isn’t, I’m very discouraged about the image you will be able to maintain. I realize I’m just one person and don’t mean anything to any of you but MarylandPUMA, but please consider: if I was offended enough to speak up, how many other people may have come here, read Murphy’s rant and just went away shaking their heads with a permanent distaste for your group.
151 ladyhawkke
Would be a waste of time, they don’t care
#137 COSMETA Thank You!! Great that nothing is lost. We love you.
#138 Taffy Good idea.
Hi all I just got back from breakfast and meet and greet at Seneca Falls it was great. Nice roud and lots of input. Heidi Li was speker and stayed after to ans questions any had.Hope I spelled her name right lol.
wontbackdown # 145
not only castro
it is chavez, hitler, mao, lenin, stalin,pinochet & a big ..etc…etc
I do not know how to emphasize the fact
that what going on is not a joke
it is going on by the book…., militia, control on everything and everyone,fanaticism., merketing merchandiizing, the apparatchik is more important than anything else
they are taking for granted that we, americans are naive and gullable therefore easy to fool
carter´s period is a children´s game compare to what could happen¡¡¡
this is about putting things inside out, upside down
#46 wontbackdown
I think he might have done so IF HE COULD HAVE FOUND the “missing 7 states” of the 57!
Will check back later. Leaving for real now.
151 lady
I agree and I think they should be sent to Obama too. Than he couldnt say he was not aware like he was in church etc>>
#153 Wish I could. Don’t know any Hillary supporters to get this going. Sad, they are going from Hillary to supporting Obambi even when I tell them it’s not over.
he does not even know what language they speak in afghanistan
Well that could be a problem here also we haven’t gotten a group together they just said they really needed someone in my area so (fingers crossed) we will get some also.
#172 Storytellers And why can’t he speak their language? He’s trying to force us to speak other languages and all he does is speak “ghetto,” words like bamboozle, crack and blow. You would think he would know at least one other language while criticizing Americans.
ladyhawkke,
I used to send messages to Hillary’s campaign at info@hillaryclinton.com, my last message to them was about 2 weeks ago and they did send a reply,
Murphy, do you think this is a good idea? (to send all the negative messages like Big Papa to Dean Pelosi Hillary and NObama?)
#172 storytellers
Is ok Bo speaks the universal language of bs so he’ll do just fine
We can copy and paste the garbage Murphy posted this morning and if anyone else has other nasty posts, please put them here. Maybe we can get them all together and do another action Monday.
By the way, this really ticks me off: http://www.2008unity.org/
Last year I sent $25.00 to Sam Waterson of Law & Order who was starting a unity08 website that would be true unity with both a Repub and Dem on one ticket. That ticket was supposed to be made up of whomever was left after the primaries. I have never heard from them again except maybe once or twice and the above link was what I got when I googled Waterson and his unityo8. So now we have another get together on race. I’m sick of this and I want my $25 back. I’m calling the FEC and reporting this.
bruce55555 isay send them to hannity with a cover letter stating that CONTRARY to dnc statements, the whole country is now being divided! NEVER has there been an election year generating this much fear and anger among the masses, not just the bigwigs!
#176 TrishfromCanada,
LOL That’s a good one and you are probably right.
#165 ladyhawkke on 07.19.08 at 1:16 pm, WROTE,
[[ #137 COSMETA Thank You!! Great that nothing is lost. We love you. ]]
Well, I didn’t have enough time to download everything… but with your(plural) help we can put a dent in it.
Also,
I am missing the following files from the Action Center *FLYERS* page:
1 of 18 Million Spanish MS Word Doc
1 of 18 Million Spanish MS Word PDF
1 of 18 Million Spanish MS Word HTML
Disenfranchied Dem LG PRT Crds PDF
Hands Off My Rights Crds PDF
GLBT Hands Off My Rights CRds PDF
ABinNY Business Crds PDF
P.U.M.A. Cash 3 Per Pg MS Word
P.U.M.A. Cash Single Bill JPG
Note: If any of you have these, please email Murphy.
Note: If any of you have saved any other pages, again, please email Murphy.
Thanks
Hello-I just returned from the Seneca160 breakfast for Hillary in Seneca Falls NY. It was held in conjunction with the Convention Days celebrating the 160th anniversary of the First Women’s Rights Convention. As Jane-pa said, it was great to be with other like-minded people and where vocal support of Hillary was accepted and encouraged. Heidi Li of Heidi Li Potpourri blog and cofounder of the Denver Group was interesting and invigorating, as always! I hope as many of us as possible will meet each other in Denver and show the Democratic Party, our country and people around the world that there are still people in our country who are standing up for true democratic principles and demand to be heard and counted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
here’s something about the 57 states
was it a Freudian slip? Wonder what’s going on in his mind? What else is in his closet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Islamic_Conference
Murphy, the reason I posted that about sending it to others, including Obama’s campaign HQ, was that when I made my calls yesterday to the Chairs of the DNC, I had a 20″ conversation with a man who answered the phone and he thought the whole process was flawed. He was the one who suggested contacting Obama’s HQ because he said sooner or later BO would have to confront the idea that he can’t win the Hillary supporters and that her name must be put in nomination.
Along with that, we need to send them the hate we are receiving.
Also, here’s an e-mail I got from Ricki Lieberman, I’m sure she has really bad ones which we need to get from her.
“All,
I lead a very quiet life. Sometimes days go by and the phone never rings, not even from tele-marketing. Today, however, starting just after 4pm, I received a steady stream of calls from Texas (many), Vermont, Denver, somewhere in the south, New York, Eddie, Jeff Wood, Donna Charett, John Doe, pre-recorded music, and more hang ups than I can count. My assistant and I tried *69 for some of the calls, but where there was a number we could not locate a name on reverse look-up.
Hmmm – why am I suddenly so popular? Well, it turned out that Huffington Post allowed comments to post my name, address and phone number. Immediately the calls started coming. Those who spoke warned me not to say anything against Obama, to stop sending emails ‘defaming’ the ‘chosen candidate’. Several were quite threatening in tone, a couple obscene. Some folks thought I ought to “go back to where I came from”. Others said I was not a real American.
One guy asked me to cry and whine. When we tried to take a message or a number to return the calls, the callers turned abusive and slammed down the phone. At one point it got so absurd that we could not stop giggling.
Then by 6:00 the calls had stopped. On to the next target.
As Maureen Dowd wrote this morning: “Don’t mess with our messiah!”
Sigh. These are not nice people.
GO GO GO!
Ricki
BTW – Robin Bryant to me
Another thing, if your gonna smear the guy at least tell the truth and not your lies. You are a Rush Limbaugh on drugs, fueled by anger and envy. I hope they throw you under the bus with Joe Lieberman you traitors. You say your for Hillary and Dems but you vote for McCain if Obama is the Nominee and don’t try to say you won’t because you will you sick sore loser. Why don’t you take your $100,000 and get some medical help because you need it. Your no Dem….
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:54 PM, DC wrote:
You are a hateful mean spirited woman who can’t take “NO” for an answer. Stop being a sore loser and grow up. You can’t always have what you want and you’re certainly not going to get it this year.
Tony Ferrara wrote:
You poor, pathetic woman…shooting your self in the foot and trying to take the country down with you for spite.
P Brown
to me
show details 10:03 PM (3 minutes ago)
Your logic is bizarre and irresponsible and the Democratic Party prefers you that you pack up and leave.
And these were among the least offensive email communications… My response: thank you for taking the time to write to me. “
cosmeta … you’ve been on here since forever it seems like and I’ve never taken the time to say how much I enjoy your posts. Sorry about that. We have so many great writers and I hope to do a better job of acknowledging them from now on. I have said thank you to a few but for now, my hat’s off to you cosmeta!!!!
178 Taffy
I agree and offer my limited time this coming week but I’ll do anything to help.
I was posting at Tom Abrahams yesterday and saw quite a few very negative remarks there alone. I’ll go back and save them.
#178 TAFFY Good idea, Hannity loves all of this. He’s the only one reporting negatives about Obama. Of course, we know he would do the same against Hillary and then we would hate him!
RE: Big papa: I wonder what the “NEW” america is? Is it something like the “NEW” democratic party that Donna Brazile hails?
Some people aren’t too bright. One french fry short of a Happy Meal if you ask me. They have not figured it (us) out yet, and they will soon come to the realization that the change they seek is held within and by us.
#164 TrishfromCanada: You sound discouraged at their indifference.
Theres has to be an agenda for all of this. No other presidential candidate could have survived even a fraction of this man’s baggage.
We need to find out what that “agenda” is.
I truly believe it is all about the “money” and the number of new voters being drawn to the “democratic party”.
They all want to tap into that pool of donors for the long haul of controlling the legislative contests.
It really isn’t about “him” it is about the “donor machine” he created early on through facebook, etc.
As long as he has the money hammer, he has a “get out of jail free” card on issues, flip-flops-inexperience, etc.
He can even dump on his internet supporters and get away with it because he just goes out and replaces them.
What is that about… using the people you dumped on to go out and rally your replacements? They see that.
Maybe, we need to be challenging his supporters more creatively. If they won’t help him increase his voter pool (=$donors$) and they start having “party identity” issues with voters, NOW, that is when the congressional seats are impacted.
Point 3: The DNC is thinking they can deal with his “power-mongering” later.
His problem between now and the convention needs to be that:
1) he is a real detriment to legislative seats and in future elections.
2) his supporters realize this man is out of control over thinking he can control everyone by the power of using their money – and investing any of it in their good: (FISA, Iraq War, Reversing Welfare Reform – which he was against the reform bill, etc., etc., etc)
HEADLINE:
SO, You honestly think that Barack Obama if FOR YOU?
THINK AGAIN!
He is for your money and your vote… and he won’t be using either one for your good! If he won’t stand up for your rights over your governments now, what makes you think he will do it later?
#174, ladyhawkke
the truth is that when he is not given a speech,
his manners and language are detestable
his body language is that of a streetwise, plain vulgar
his capacity for critisim is null
he starts whimpering sort of like
and asking his interlocutor why he brings out his negative points
great politician¡¡
#187 WONTBACKDOWN It is all about the money and George Soro’s takeover of the Democratic Party. I just received a dossier in the form of a magazine from LaRouce Pac entitled “Your Enemy George Soros,” theman destroying the Democratic Party. I contributed $15 to their cause and also to help get the DVD 1932 distributed. They have 200,000 dossiers that they are releasing. It is a very interesting read. You may be able to read it online. LaRouche claims the election belongs to Hillary as she is trying to bring back the FDR days and will not be beholden to the DNC. That they can’t control her like they will BO.
Murphy, I sent you an e-mail and will mail it to you if you wish.
Anyone need a Hillary Clinton video fix:
Hillary Clinton Rips Bush Abortion Proposal
Democrats Argue Proposal Would Threaten Women’s Access to Contraception
By MATTHEW JAFFE
July 18, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5405561&page=1
#189 ladyhawkke: Thank you. I know a lot of people think he is “nuts” but I believe he offers a view of our Government that NO ONE can stand the thought of.
We are just too indoctrinated as a culture to “fall in line”. The only thing that changes is the approach on how they get us to do that.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/07/18/susan-estrich-it-should-be-a-democratic-year
Although the author’s personal point seems to be to want to pressure more Democrats to hurry up and fall into line, this article is a warning that Obama is on course to lose the election despite the media fantasy to the contrary. It’s worth checking out because we can use her points in our letters to superdelegates to bolster the “unelectability” argument about the Selected One, and and encourage them, as unpledged delegates, to back Hillary Clinton as the only Dem candidate that can beat McCain.
#192 RoseCityfriend:
I swear they are not nearly as concerned about his beating McCain as they are about that voter-donor pool.
In the short run a president would be nice, but controlling congress and the senate is it is worth a heck of a lot more to them than answering to an egomaniacal “president”.
You watch them turn on him if their own seats are in jeoprody.
Now this is scary…so everytime i buy something on credit, “he” knows????
http://us.video.aol.com/player/launcher?ar=us_en_video_748×541_full&mode=1&pmmsid=2165972
Gotta run to an appoitment and then do some work on the computer.
#187 wontbackdown on 07.19.08 at 1:49 pm #164 TrishfromCanada: You sound discouraged at their indifference.
Not discouraged, ticked off is more like it. I dislike followers, sheep, fools whatever you want to call them. I want people to be passionate about what they believe in, the only time Bo’s flock are passionate is when they’re crapping on Hillary and her supporters. Otherwise, they just follow him blindly and that gets to me.Should call themselves doorknockers because that’s about as much life as they have in them.
See this is what happens when I read the Bo blogs, I gotta stay off them or I’ll pop a vein.
I still believe we should be trying to hit the swing states with information such as Hillary has just suspended not conceded. That the Super Delegates real vote is not made until the convention, that the Super Delegates job at voting for a nominee is to select the one that is best qualified to beat John McCain. That Obama is not experience enough to go up against John McCain and that his short over glamorized resume proves he should not have made Senator, let alone letting him become the Democratic Party nominee. Then to go on to mention Hillary’s 35 years experience her accomplishments in her crusade for women, children and post Gulf War vets. Maybe we can then target newspapers in the swing states with smaller page ads or even use cable target marketing which is much cheaper spot TV advertising (designed to be cost effective to small business owners) to reach people with this information in swing states.
Hey everyone!
I watched that video on youtube of Hillary (the one about abortion) OMG!!! I am pumped! lets get our nomination back!
THAT is the person who should be President NOW!!
I am writing a blog…IDK what its going to be about (I usually dont until it’s finished) but I will post it on here
I sent about 200 letters to SDs today, left about 105 flyers at walmart, and will probably be leaving more at the mall this afternoon.
I’m psyched! Lets go!
maybe we are following a wrong course. this election has been like no other. maybe it’s not just the money, but the info???? look at all the hackers bo has managed to accumulate around him. look at the info they’ve been able to pull up.. that’s a lot of power in the right hands. it’s like a non governmental intelligence service.
#47 bmw60
I read that comment by Katherine… and I want to offer the observation that before the PUMA movement and the JSND coalition officially got underway — I found myself constantly surfing Main Stream articles for information. I often read the links from AOL and Yahoo news. I would also always read the comments to get a sense of how many people out there felt the same as I do. Two people would always comment with ideas that were extremely PUMA-like in nature. One person is this Katherine lady and another is someone with the username Davidg. To this day — I always hope that both of them are now part of our JSND coalition… and still always look for comments from them. They do an awesome job in presenting valid points.
#175 bruce55555 on 07.19.08 at 1:30 pm
do you think this is a good idea? (to send all the negative messages like Big Papa to Dean Pelosi Hillary and NObama?)
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I’m not Murphy, but I don’t think we should clutter Hillary’s email with anything, especially not that!
Dean, Pelosi, Reid, some news media, maybe.
UPDATE (on post 198):
I actually finished my blog…I took one I started yesterday and completed it…here it is:
TITLE: Tomorrow is more than just another day:
Picture this:
A man stands in front of a large group of people as he pokes fun at his own countrymen. He jokes about their inabilities when it comes to speaking another language. Sounds harmless, doesn’t it? But it isn’t, for this man is not only an “American” making fun of his “fellow” Americans. This is an “American” making fun of his “fellow” Americans while in another country. He carries on with this carping attack on the average American’s inablity to speak more than one language. And he does so as a PRESUMPTIVE “DEMOCRATIC” nominee.
This shows disrespect on so many levels. This man holds the average American, the core of this country, in contempt simply for not possessing an arsenal of linguistic skills. In doing so, he has not only voiced his belief that the core of this country, the backbone of this nation, is uneducated, he has also shown everyone present that he condones such criticism of his own people. Is this the kind of person we want in the highest office in the world?
I am not alone in my frustrations over this man’s free ride. He seems to show little to no regard for the average American. It’s a sad time to be in America, when your voice is silenced by those you chose to represent you. These people you voted in to ensure your opinion would be heard and considered. It’s these very people who are now our enemy. Democracy is thrown to the wolves and the hounds have been sent on the attack…but the PUMAS continue to be on the prowl, lurking in the shadows, awaiting the next opportunity to strike back.
The average American, the majority of this country, those who fight more battles on a daily basis than a single person should ever have to, have but 2 people in their corner…2 people who have never left their side. 2 people who want nothing more than to better the lives of each and every one of us…the Clintons are still our allies. They have been baited, attacked, all but pushed off the planet…and through it all, they are more than ready to step back in the ring…for US.
The PRESUMPTIVE “DEMOCRATIC” nominee has repeatedly shown where he stands with the average American. So many of his supporters have been thrown under the bus in an effort for him to gain momentum (a failed attempt, but one that should not go unnoticed.) One wonders if this is his way of disposing of what he considers “dead weight.”
Only one person is ready to lead us into a better tomorrow. Only one person can pick up the pieces and reshape this country into the strong, respected force it used to be. Only one person wants to be the President for the people. And that one person is being ignored by her party, she is fighting in order to keep hope alive that her name will be placed on the ballot for nomination at the convention. She’s been fighting for us for a long time, her entire career has been one uphill battle after another. Do we really think she’ll give up the fight and take the lesser job under the counterfeit candidate? Do we really believe she not longer possesses the fighting spirit we so admire? Do we really think she’s done?
I for one do not believe she is giving up the fight. The battle has yet to be lost, the calls for unity by the opposition will never be answered. If we had to vote today, we would have to choose between two Republicans. But when we vote tomorrow, we will choose between a Republican and the greatest possible choice for President of the United States of America.
Tomorrow is more than just another day…tomorrow is OUR day.
Let freedom ring and the angels sing as we lead ourselves to victory, to prosperity, to Hillary.
Onward! Upward! Never backwards!
#190 wontbackdown
came back from political machine. left a piece of my mind for Tommy Christopher. Thank you for The Hillary FIX. Well needed after venturing in the sewage of the political machine.
Thank god Hillary is here at home fighting for our rights, when the Circus is on parade abroad
Does anyone have John Edwards’ snail mail address? I know he has thrown his support to BO. Maybe it was politically correct, or he fell for the unity crap, or perhaps he just doesn’t like Senator Clinton. Whatever the reason it won’t hurt for me to send him a letter. He may have second thoughts with all the flip flops.
#175 and #201 No, not to Hillary, ever. She has enough problems without reading all of this garbage. We need to bother Pelosi, Dean and Obambi.
I think we should really just flood hillary’s email with positive material. Let her worry about making sure her name is on the ballot (among other things)
We’re the ones who have the ability to speak out against the negative things going on (she cant) so there’s no reason to flood the email with it…
Does that sound mean? Because if it did I certainly dont mean it that way
You guys you I love you, right? (not in that abusive, apologetic way) in the real, respectful, stand beside you and fight till the bitter end way
#193 wontbackdown:
you are so right. and we have to make sure they realize their own seats are in jeopardy. many will feel between a rock and a hard place. I hope they feel royally pi$$ed at Pelosi and the DNC for making them come out so early for someone who’s turning out to be such a nightmare for their chances in the fall.
TOPIC: Request for link
Q – Could someone pretty-please repost the link to the site that was posted yesterday (or the day before), which had a written list of all of Obama’s flip-flops?
Thanks much!
TOPIC: Portland event
I will be attending a fundraiser for Hillary tonight & will let you all know how it goes.
Make it a great day!
#202 ClintonRules Great post and very well stated.
#208 hillstheone
just wanting to thank you for reseaching on MSM ownership 2 days ago.
#204 STONEY42 I don’t have his snail mail; however, on May 16 I faxed him regarding his endorsement of Obama. I emphatically told him I was disappointed in him and would either stay home or vote for McCain. His fax # is
(919) 967-3644
Hello everyone…just wondering..does anyone sleep around here?
About this Christina person – ignore her. It’s real hard for her to argue with her followers. If we acknowledge her, we give her strength and power to hurt us – I don’t think so!! Many of you already know that Anger and Hate takes up alot of our precious time. This is just another “attack” mode.
I keep trying to tell all of you that you just do not realize the strenth of your group. One day the Press won’t be saying “Hillary’s Supporters”, they’ll be saying PUMA!!!! You are as powerful as Women’s Suffrage, Prohibition, etc. There are many men and women that respect strength that comes with creditability and action. Just keep doing what your doing and support everyone that works so hard for a common goal.
201 pumaresponders
right, it was just a thought,
ladyhawkke said the same thing.
#213 1gypsy4mc on 07.19.08 at 2:24 pm Hello everyone…just wondering..does anyone sleep around here?
—
I can assure you, I don’t sleep around
Alright now don’t anyone get offended, we need a few laughs after the past days
#15—posted antifish..Not the first time we have seen this trash.
To all pumas
it is going to take more than brainless Christina(snoop and sneak and sniff around pumas tracks ) to change my mind. I have a site name for her. KMPA which stands for kiss my puma a@#@.
#204 stoney42…..edwards still has his website up with this info:
We’re always looking for fresh ideas. This campaign is driven by people like you.
You can also contact John Edwards for President at:
Phone: (919) 636-3131
Fax: (919) 967-3644
Mailing Address:
410 Market Street
Suite 400
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
#208 hillstheone.
Not sure about the post, but here is alink.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/24/AR2008022402094.html
OMG! I just had an idea for a shirt
Are you ready? It’s going to blow your mind! lol
“NObama…NOvember…NO Joke!”:
You could have NObama’s face in a circle covered by a paw print. The shirt would read “NObama…November…NO Joke!”
It’s classy, elegant, mean spirited…FUN!
#215 TrishfromCanada
That was pretty good Trish! How are you today? I have to say I like going to CFP – they know more about what’s going on then I do.
This is a story from late June but is interesting if no one read it entitled:
“OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING”
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp
Hello Pumas !
I’ve seen several of your comments today which say you ought to contact European newspapers.
As I promised two days ago, I’ve written to a lot of French papers, TV channels, radios, and internet medias, to let them know about what is happening in your beautiful country.
I’ve told them about you, Pumas, your goals, your action, and about the Denver group, strongly advising them to get informed, and to stop telling everybody in France that Obama is the sure winner in November.
I’ve explained that his trip to Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East and Europe was intended for American people only (40 journalists will be accompanying him, as if he were already president : that is INCREDIBLE !) ; that he only wants to reassure voters who don’t trust him (polls showing that people do not think he would be a reliable commander-in-chief) ; etc…
I have not quite finished my job and will continue tonight and tomorrow. And then, I’ll wait… hoping to hear or read something in the next few days, hoping for an answer.
I’ll also try to speak on some French radios next week, in particular on Friday when BO is in Paris, just to remind people that …
HE IS NOT PRESIDENT OF THE USA YET !
new Americapost is very important/ Over on First read they had Obama 08,012 and beyond. another time they said they may even have to change constituion. I think Hillary, Obama, Dean, Palosi and Brazile should all be sent this but not enmass than they wont read it.They cannt say they didnt know than and that might be put in there too. For your information. to keep you informed on that line/you think??
Threats and this one here should be brought to light. If they think they have scared us it will get worse. My opinion
#223 DELPHINfromFRANCE Thank you!! Perfect, someone who speaks another language, not like BO! Good you are getting the word out at what a fraud he is!
#223 delphinefromfrance
From what is being said on the news, OB is not allowed to campaign in Europe – the Waters Edge thing. I know some of the news media that was not invited is following OB also…just sitting there lurking…
I’m surprised he’s going to England – his major donor is supposedly responsible for breaking England’s bank – sound familiar?
ClintonRules
T-shirt
LOVE IT!
#77 Goalucard4Hill on 07.19.08 at 11:08 am
OK and I agree with Lin4Hill regarding comments in the European newspapers – back in the old HRC days – Wizard and a couple of others did that
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Does anyone have a links to comment sections of European papers that it’s easy to post in? I’d like to add them to
http://pumaparty.com/pumaresponders/puma-pouncing-grounds/
My opinion is like #206 ClintonRules — I’d rather flood Hillary’s email with messages that it’s important to her supporters that she NOT “negotiate” away her right to be nominated and voted on at the Convention. Because frankly, it’s not just about her, and it’s definitely not about loyalty to a party that wishes we were invisible — it’s about us, the people. And that’s why we’ve loved Hillary, because she fights for the people, whereas Obama makes it all about himself.
Speaking of being all about himself, the sad thing about the cartoon cover of The New Yorker is that it took the media’s attention away from Ryan Lizza’s story INSIDE the magazine, about how Obama’s career has ALWAYS been about himself. Shifting the focus was the precise reason why the Obama campaign complained so loudly about the cartoon on the cover. Sigh. In an age where liberals have loved “Doonesbury” and “SNL”, it’s scandalous that they fell for this ploy. I’m no Bush lover, but I remember when Bush Sr. just laughed off Dana Carvey’s of SNL’s making fun of him. That’s leadership in America. If Obama doesn’t want political cartoons to make fun of him, he should become leader of North Korea or Cuba or Iran instead. At least cartoons aren’t masquerading as “neutral” and “objective” news reporting. The mainstream media’s obvious negative bias is where Obama and his supporters were strangely silent on the trashing of Hillary Clinton…
Thanks Ladyhawkke and Taffy for the information.
I know we Pumas can accomplish or goal!
JMO…for the most part we are a group made up of people who for the first time are really involved in the election process. We are learning ass we go along. We are made up of decent people from all walks of life, all ages, races, religions, etc. Just normal everyday people trying to do something to get our country back on track. The problem is we are playing against a team of professionals who know how to get down and dirty. It’s something we don’t do for the most part in our lives. It’s like pitting Annie against Darth Vader. We really need some help from someone who understands how the Darth Vader type operates.
#183 Taffy on 07.19.08 at 1:41 pm, WROTE,
[[ cosmeta … you’ve been on here since forever it seems like and I’ve never taken the time to say how much I enjoy your posts. Sorry about that. We have so many great writers and I hope to do a better job of acknowledging them from now on. I have said thank you to a few but for now, my hat’s off to you cosmeta!!!!]]
Thank you. But you know what… it is not neccessary to compliment me. By way of an explanation: I’ve always been a “loner” my whole life, and do not rely upon others to give me a boost or to tell me what my strenghts are. I know who and what I am, my strengths and my weaknesses. I’ve always been a non-conformist, yet at the same time a person of principle but in a conservative kind of way. Meaning, I do not necessarily follow the crowd, do not need to *belong* to a group, but am pretty much your average everyday, middle class person. So in that sense, I am conventional.
What I pride myself is having a great deal of what I would call, *wisdom* if that does not sound too egotistical; but I mean it in the sense of the common sense shared by all so in that sense, I belong to a larger group.
It is called humanity.
In spiritual terms we say,
WE who are the many, Are ONE,
And that my dear friend is what our democracy is based upon.
And so,
I call you friend.
kathleen
Murphy and Maryland, I sent you both an e-mail for whenever you have time to check it out
Thank you
#223 delphinefromfrance.
Bonjour Delphine, comon ca va?
Hi are you from Paris? If so what district? I’ve got relatives there.
Thank-you for being part of our group
michelle47, your daughter’s name is Seneca? That is so beautiful. Today is kind of like her birthday too!
#196 TrishfromCanada: I understand.
I won’t go into details, but I went up against a totally crooked system – because of a powerful man – on a real estate issue
No matter how many times he and his lawyers purgered themselves in the court room – the judge looked the other way – they were all political supporters of the judge.
Basically the strategy was to make me keep having to appeal his (bad) decisions in hopes that I would run out of money – and fight – and give up.
Now here is the BIG Point.
My frustrated lawyers told me this:
When the judge is sitting there comparing you and your political and financial power to theirs – you are completely expendable. He knows you can’t spend 12,000 to get to the appeals court and keep up with the “primary case” in his court for very long – everytime he makes a decision in their favor – no matter how wrong he is.
And that is what we are up against here.
Want to here the Bad News and then the Good News?
BAD NEWS: I had to settle for far, far less than I lost.
GOOD NEWS: I spent one month putting out flyers with bulleted points on my case and the judge’s decisions – which even lay people could see were wrong.
REALLY GOOD NEWS: That alleged “undefeatable” republican judge lost his re-election bid for the bench… much to everyone’s shock!
Don’t tell me that there are not consequences to failed democracy. I lost, but I won the damn war against ONE ARROGANT BASTARD!
It can be done! I believe in handing out “Flyers” to the regular guys and gals and begging them NOT to VOTE for a “crook”!
It works… it really does… they knew I was sincere and would not be out there doing it if something had not been really WRONG with that judge!
# 223 delphinefromfrance
So glad for your Puma help in France. We need people from other country’s to understand the truth of what is actually happening here. It’s such a travesty.
This is Obama’s call for forming his Gestapo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
rosecity just remember it’s against the law for her senate office to have anything to do with her campaign. That is why she keeps her campaign office separate and I’m pretty sure that’s why it was suggested to have the flowers sent there as well.
Remember Seneca Falls- July 19th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaK4kZxCtCA
storyteller- It is interesting to watch BO’s body language. Whenever he comes on the TV, I mute the news segment and usually look away. But when you study the jaunty walk, the chin tilt, the pasted-on smile, or the quick shiver of his shoulders, it says a lot. I don’t play poker, but there’s always a “tell,” and I’ve seen quite a few from him.
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I hope there were never Hillary supporters that spoke to the opponents’ supporters as these low-lifes do, but there may have been some. They are beyond despicable to harrass R. Liberman or Murphy, or anyone who has an opposing point of view. The fact that they are expending that much energy on PUMAs or others reveals the depth of their insecurity. Do they actually believe they can taunt us to their side? They are so out of their league.
If you think Hannity or others would even acknowledge these prime examples of their thinking, then send them on!
#231 Taffy.
, just like smeone did yesterday with the word ’shift’ right.
I think you mispelt something
#221 1gypsy4mc
I’m doing well, a little bit unsettled today, I think my sugars are off, so I’m going for a bike ride in a bit, that’ll put them back in control. Otherwise, I’ll have to stay off the blog cause otherwise I tend to lose that filter that stops my fingers from typing what my brain is thinking lol… it’s not a pleasant site, I leave no prisoners!
How are you? oh yes, I sent you back an e-mail, wooohooo you are our 12th recruit for the database, Dragonfly joined us last night
Thank you, Thank you. We’re doing great.
antifish somewhere I read that to have the civilian force he calls for would be about 67 billion (?) dollars since that is what we currently spend on our military. scary thought where that money comes from. and all our young kool aid drinkers would be the drafted ones to form it
hahaha
Good lord, i’m hyper.
so…much…energy…
need…something…to do…
I’m now taking requests for actions. Tell me what to do and I’ll…well…do it lol…
I think i’ve sent at least 10 letters to each SD
I’ve called the DNC more times than I’d care to admit…I really do have alot of free time
Flyers…I think the people in every store here refer to me as “the girl with the flyers” lol
I guess while I’m waiting for something else to do, I’ll check my Myspace and see what’s going on there. I may even invite a few *61 supporters to IM me and have a “friendly” chat about our views…so i’ll be back in about 2 minutes guys lol (the friendly chat never stays friendly for long)
Hi all,
I guess we are going international. I read in NoQuarter that BO’s campaign was “hosting” all these journalists on his tour and that journalists complained that McCain had made it so “difficult” for them and that’s why they didn’t give him as much coverage. The person who wrote this article pointed out that a journalists job is to find and investigate stories, not be led to a story by politicians. As we all know, BO is fabricating an event for publicity. This isn’t real news. By the way, I apologize for not having the link to the article I just mentioned, but I will post it if I find it.
Also, maybe we should start writing newspapers in Europe in English even before BO gets there. Most journalists have to know English and if we send them a brief message and direct them to where they can find the hundreds of anti-BO sites (like http://www.nobamanetwork.com/ and justsaynodeal) they would quickly get the point that there is a lot of opposition against BO that isn’t reported by the U.S. MSM. I have time today, so I can help contact European papers.
Actually, I have to be out for a little while, but I’ll be back in a few hours. Let me know if you’d like to do this.
Best,
Lara08
madlogic…:D yep. this keyboard is not very good. letters stick and sometimes repeat, sometimes transpose by the time they finally show up. frustrating but at least gave you a laugh
#240, taffy, yes, thanks, that’s true, although I believe the staff can still report to her regarding the content of emails being sent to her senate office, even if they’re not allowed to do anything else with them. (anyways, that’s what happens to my emails about these things sent to my superdelegates government offices.) do you have any email addresses for HRC’s campaign offices other than the info@hillaryclinton.com ? thanks!
#248 Taffy.
239 antifish
What the hell is he talking about, here comes tonton Makout, or Amin DADA
#245 Taffy,
Somehow the thought of Obama’s supporters running around with authority terrifies me. Comrade Christina, anyone?
# 237 wontbackdown
Wonderful story, and there will be consequences to pay.
Murphy – You have e-mail.
Clinton Rules – I really like your t-shirt idea. Way cool.
#25 Henerietta on 07.19.08 at 10:04 am, WROTE,
[[This fight and our movement isn’t just about the candidates. It is about our party, and in extension, about our nation and the world. We must not lose the fight for the soul of our people. We must not lose the principle of one person, one vote. We must insist on the allowance of participation by all, participation that counts equally with all others’ participation. ]]
Hear, Hear!!!
Way to Go Henerietta!
And that goes for your entire post… put have only put up a snippet for others to reference.
Good show…
#49 murphy
Had to share this with you. I sent a friend of mine the Big Papa comments. His response to what Big Papa wrote cracked me up. My friend writes the following:
“Clearly this is a guy who is deeply angered by women who have patronizing him all his life with the phrases “size isn’t everything” and “It’s alright, I’m sure it’s just nerves, we can try again later.” He likely calls himself Big Papa because he looks like he’s primed to give birth to twins at any moment. He acts as if he thinks HE’s Obummer. Talk about delusional. Well, kool-aid chugging will do that.”
#251 veritas09,
Just another reason why we must do all we can to keep him from being elected. He is dangerous to this country.
you can bet I am working on it
#237 wontbackdown
lol you just moved way up there on my respect-o-meter. lol I love it, one less a$$ deciding people’s fate.
Well done!
#66 Lin4Hill on 07.19.08 at 10:56 am
As for Christina or any other copy-dogs (don’t want to dishonor cats…) who attempt anti-PUMA chatter or websites, you are right–they only serve to give us more notice. Surely the only ones who will visit those sites are their own kind, just dogs chasing their own tails…
They will get nowhere.
Remember, PUMAs, we stalk. We watch. We wait. We pounce.
—————————————————–
Lin4Hill
BEAUTIFULL! MAY I PLEASE PLEASE QUOTE THIS?
It would make a great masthead at PumaResponders.
Remember, PUMAs, we stalk. We watch. We wait. We pounce.
#237 wontbackdown — AWESOME. Although you didn’t get as much money as you deserved, you won more than money with your persistence, passion, and principles. Wow. Good for you, and good for the people that judge can’t screw over anymore!!
#224 jane-Pa He has to win the the first one! And it ain’t gonna happen!!
A 6 days trip, 13000 milles to get foreign policy credentials. PLEASSSSSE
Can I spend 6 days at NASA and be on the next shuttle mission ?
#247 LARA08, You can go to this web site and send letter to any country big paper editor very easy. publishaletter.com/writeletter. I already sent to the countries he is to visit. But would be a good idea if more were sent.
249 RoseCityFriend
I received this advisory:
Attention: Please Do Not Contact Hillary’s Senate Office Re: The Election
“Hillary has asked us not to do this. She has to be very careful about using her Senate office for election issues. She doesn’t want her office flooded with this. Instead, keep contacting the SD’s. RE: the election and roll call, she knows what she is doing, and is aware that many, many of us are supporting her. Please respect her request. Writing the SD’s is the most important thing.”
Thanks.
#44 PouncingPuma on 07.19.08 at 10:29 am, WROTE,
[[ “Obama author Andy Martin (’Obama: The Man Behind the Mask’) will participate in a series of private meetings in Palm Beach this weekend; conference is intended to chart future efforts to defeat Barack Obama.”
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
]]
I bought the book when the announcement was released and am awaiting a delivery. Should be a good read.
Am also awaiting for this one:
YAHOO NEWS!
Jonathan Martin Mon Jun 23, 1:25 AM ET
First Obama attack book in the works
__________________________________
“The same publisher that distributed the 2004 best-seller that took aim at John Kerry’s Vietnam service is planning a summer release of what’s scheduled to be the first critical book on Barack Obama.
Conservative journalist David Freddoso’s “The Case Against Barack Obama” will offer “a comprehensive, factual look at Obama,” according to Regnery Publishing president and publisher Marjory Ross.
But the book’s subtitle makes clear its perspective: “The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate.”
Ross contends that the mainstream media has offered insufficient scrutiny of Obama and likens the goal of Freddoso’s book to that of “Unfit for Command,” the scathing assessment of Kerry’s war record that rocketed to No. 1 on The New York Times best-seller list.”
Read more at,
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080623/pl_politico/11263
Off to my appointment for the 2nd time – same 3:00 appointment – that I thought was at “1:00″ – LOL! If Gas were not so high and I didn’t want to go in the first place…
… that “don’t want to go” appointment karma is a real B%$tch! I’m whistling out the door – don’t want to have a flat tire!
Trish – back from the zoo – and if you have any of those sd’s left over you need help on getting faxes – please send it me – I think you probably still have my email address – will get working on it right away.
I left Christina Cedeno the following comment at her little blog:
Christina,
You’ve chosen only a single link in your efforts to break the chain of concerned citizens who are standing up for core principles of our democracy.
Using Darragh Murphy and the Pumas as a foil to make a name for yourself, is that it?
Why don’t you try standing up for what you believe – explaining it, defending it, fighting for it – rather than just trying to tear other people down for exercising their rights in our democracy?
You’re in way over your head.
Knoxville NFIL
Posted by: http://www.NotFallingInLine.org | July 19, 2008 at 02:44 PM
*****
From what I saw at her little blog, her fifteen minutes won’t last more than five… It’s sad really. Them taking the fight to us is exactly what we’ve been wanting!
Hi delphinefromfrance,
Glad you could join us today and thank you for getting the word out for us over there. We appreciate all of your efforts tremendously. You are a great Puma!
239 antifish
that’s the feeling I get, he’s a dictator wanna-be
and his minions, and the violent ones?
#269 Goalucard4Hill
I dooooooooooo and will send you some right now!
#249 Rosecity this is the same address as her hillary for president…it’s just been changed to reflect her senate reelection fund.
Friends of Hillary
4420 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
Headquarters: 703.469.2008
Fax: 703.962.8600
#231 Taffy
Sometimes, I feel as if we’re fighting Goliath, but, remember, a slight teenager with one good shot brought him down!
I do agree with you, though, we could use some inside heavy-hitters!
goandersen,
You have mail.
rosecity..there are different rules applied when someone is running for office. those in office aren’t under the same rules about what they receive hope this helps.
trish — checking now
folks we have all the docs we need for the Action Center. should be back up asap.
Cosmeta, did you email me? I have nothing from you in any of my inboxes.
Thanks!
Dont forget — first installment of “Meet Me in Denver with Murphy and Friends” debuts tonight on NQR!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
274 Taffy
Villagers:
I received this advisory:
Attention: Please Do Not Contact Hillary’s Senate Office Re: The Election
“Hillary has asked us not to do this. She has to be very careful about using her Senate office for election issues. She doesn’t want her office flooded with this. Instead, keep contacting the SD’s. RE: the election and roll call, she knows what she is doing, and is aware that many, many of us are supporting her. Please respect her request. Writing the SD’s is the most important thing.”
Thanks.
Normita
The middle east (Iraq/Iran) are repositioning their views to have Obama selected. Iraqi PM now supports *61 timetable, and Iran is ever so paying hardball with Bush over the never-ending saga of Uranium- enrichment.
what goandersen said.
I have zero contact with any of the campaigns, but I do know that it is a no-no to mix up your elected office with your campaign committee.
Members should only contact Senator Clinton’s office as constituents or as private citizens regarding political matters not related to the campaign/
I just posted this at the aol thread.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/18/has-puma-met-its-match/8#comment
I wonder if my figures are still current or if I should update it next time.
As to how many PUMAs there are. A recent poll of the real world outside the internet found 9 million Hillary supporters refusing to vote for Obama in November (up from 7 million in June).
When Justsaynodeal.com began its census of members of PUMA groups, they found over 2 million. Nobamanetwork is also attempting a list of all groups and a headcount.
I don’t know whether these include groups that have little web presence, such as Clinton Supporters Count Too. Groups like blog.pumapac.org keep count of how many letters to SDs, phone call,etc they generate each day or week, so that should give an indication.
Fundraising should give an indication too. See heidilipotpourri and thedenvergroup and blog.pumapac.org. Quite a few others are raising serious amounts too. (A fund drive of several organizations reportedly raised $10 million toward Hillary’s debt in about a week in early July. Taht would be in addition to funds for newspaper ads and website opeating expenses, trips to Denver, donations to friendly Congressmen, etc.)
bruce555555555555555555555555555555,
LOL! You know I just can’t help myself with the nickels!
Yeah, it’s scary to even think how empowered his evil bots would be if he somehow got elected. If you think they’re nasty now…………
I didnt know anything about the Declaration of Resolution…untill i was surffing last night….i download both of them and my Daughter and i are going to sign it…they are have a meetup in Houston…but its still too far the go…I say you can have a meetup with 2 people and sign it
go here to download…then you
1) Save the word files you download here to a cd
2) Take the cd to your local print shop
3) Ask that the the documents each be printed on 2 pages of ivory 11″ x 17″ cardstock paper (we priced the printing at Kinkos and it was about two dollars to print both pages of both documents
http://july19action.blogspot.com/
#265 scath you need to take write a letter off for the link to work. just publishaletter.com
Murphy,
I’m preparing a Growl for you and MamaPuma, you’ll get it tomorrow, just verifying e-mails before I send it to you.
lol I love the Daily Growl, it’s like lets see who’s cornflakes I can **** in this morning!
This is the lady that wrote the Declaration of Resolution
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/
285 antifish
thanks for the nickels, I’ll use them later at the slots
I’m looking forward to the new growls and prowls (I get them confused), we gotta keep up the good fight, keep on truckin’, and all the good stuff!
I’m so thankful for this movement, I love you all Pumas!!!
* Taffy, I saved all the posts on Tom Abraham’s article, if you or anyone needs them to put together all the negatives to send to superdelegates and NObama just let me know and if I should do that, just let me know
Here’s some more of my exchange with whatever that is over at Christina Cedeno’s site:
Knoxville NFIL: I’m standing up for making fun of you and the other crackpots in the puma echo chamber. Has today’s growl been sent out, or is Darragh to busy swearing at her opponents or figuring out how to embezzle the money she’s raised?
Posted by:Jeff | July 19, 2008 at 03:14 PM
* * * * * * *
Jeff ~
Is that what you’re standing up for? Really? How very noble of you.
Well, if Jeff’s the best you got, then I’ve been wasting my time.
Too bad…
WE’RE NOT FALLING IN LINE BEHIND AN UNKNOWN, INEXPERIENCED, UNQUALIFIED, AND UNPRINCIPLED NEOPHYTE WHO HAS NOTHING MORE TO OFFER THAN FLOWERY RHETORIC AND EMPTY SLOGANS FOR EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN.
And we’re NOT FALLING IN LINE behind the supposed leaders of the undemocratic Democratic Party who, by enabling this weasel, have failed us yet again.
Constituents in a representative democracy deserve better representatives.
Knoxville
Posted by: http://www.NotFallingInLine.org | July 19, 2008 at 03:21 PM
go_Ohio_Lady (you asked me where I lived)
You can write an email to me at:
ohohio46@gmail.com
Talk to ya later
Katrina,
What I am about to say is not defending Murphy; Murphy has the RIGHT to say whatever she wanted. I am sick and tired of political correctness! This is what’s wrong with America, people are so AFRAID to call or say things as is! TOLERANCE IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING!
Like Murphy, I say things as is, I do NOT believe of “feel good” statement, that is downright copout!
Night of Terror
On November 15, 1917, the Warden of Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia ordered 40 of his guards on what is now known as the Night of Terror.
The women were innocent and defenseless. By the end of the night, they were also barely alive. Forty prison guards wielding clubs went on a rampage with their warden’s blessing against the 33 women wrongly convicted of “obstructing sidewalk traffic.” They beat Lucy Burn, chained her hands to the cell bars above her head and left her hanging for the night, bleeding and gasping for air. They hurled Dora Lewis into a dark cell, smashed her head against an iron bed and knocked her out cold. Her cellmate, Alice Cosu, thought Lewis was dead and suffered a heart attack. Additional affidavits describe the guards grabbing, dragging, beating, choking, slamming, pinching, twisting and kicking the women. (Why Women Vote )
The details of the Night of Terror were the last straw. Public outrage and opposition had been building as news leaked that there were hunger strikes and forced feedings, but everything boiled to a head after the Night of Terror. Everyone, from ordinary folks to politicians in Washington, began to talk about the women and their plight. Demands issued from many quarters that they be released, which they finally were, on November 27th and 28th of 1917, many after nearly half a year in prison.
In January of 1918, Woodrow Wilson announced his support of the Susan B. Anthony Amendment, and Congress voted on it soon thereafter, failing the 2/3 majority test by two votes. American women campaigned vigorously that election year to unseat anti-suffragist incumbents, and were successful. The amendment passed the following year, 1919, by a landslide, and began to make its way around the country to be ratified.
War of the Roses
By the summer of 1920, 35 states had ratified the 19th Amendment, and 36 were needed for it to become an official part of our founding document. It came down to Tennessee, and a War of Roses during the dog days of summer. Both pro- and anti-suffrage factions from across America made their way to Nashville to duke it out over votes in the Tennessee legislature. Members of the opposing factions and politicians wore yellow roses to show their support for suffrage, and red roses to show their opposition to suffrage.
On August 18th, amidst a sea of red and yellow roses, the roll call for votes went out, and came back 2 votes shy. Another roll call was made, and this time, Rep. Banks Turner crossed the line to the suffrage side. One vote shy. A third, and final roll call was made, and this time, a young man by the name of Harry Burn, wearing a red rose, crossed over to the suffragists side. Pandemonium ensued.
With his “yea,” Burn had delivered universal suffrage to all American women. The outraged opponents to the bill began chasing Representative Burn around the room. In order to escape the angry mob, Burn climbed out one of the third-floor windows of the Capitol. Making his way along a ledge, he was able to save himself by hiding in the Capitol attic.
When he was later questioned as to why he had voted for it, despite wearing a red rose, he explained that what people saw was the red rose on his jacket, but they didn’t see that in the pocket behind it was a telegraph from his mother in East Tennessee. It read:
Dear Son: Hurrah, and vote for suffrage! Don’t keep them in doubt. I noticed some of the speeches against. They were bitter. I have been watching to see how you stood, but have not noticed anything yet. Don’t forget to be a good boy and help Mrs. Catt [Carrie Chapman Catt] put the ‘rat’ in ratification. Signed, Your Mother.
~Febb Ensminger Burn
***
The 19th Amendment was certified as law by Wilson’s Secretary of State, Bainbridge Colby on August 26, 1920. Bainbridge Colby was a founding member of the United States Progressive Party.
The young women of today—free to study, to speak, to write, to choose their occupation —should remember that every inch of this freedom was bought for them at a great price… the debt that each generation owes to the past, it must pay to the future.
~ Abigail Scott Dunaway
Frankly, I was hoping for something better than this Christina, who seems to have learned something about delusions of grandeur from the CHOSEN ONE, but this will due for a start.
LET THE DIVISION OF THE PARTY THAT HAS FAILED US ALL SO BADLY BEGIN.
RE: 43 Murphy
Who the hell is this poser Christina
She looks just like that stupid money hungry obomnot girl on the videos
She hasnt met this Puma yet!!!!!!!! And i really dont think she would want to ,because i would make obie soup out of her !!!!!!!!
And then send her back to her preschool !!!!!!!!
She would be begging the tots to protect her LOL
And crying for her sippy cup and binky !!!!!!
Katrina #164 — hope you’re still here. I am sorry that my swearing offended you. Long time readers and members will know that swearing and crude language is just not my style. It is a cheap and unsubtle way to communicate, and I avoid that way of writing or speaking almost exclusively.
Anyone who spends a few minutes reading our site will know that we are a very large group of very diverse people who are motivated to action because of the shameful and inexcusable behavior of our party this year. Swearing, rudeness to others, and name-calling happens so extremely rarely that in over 54,000 comments, I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve had to remove comments because of language or content. In over 2,500 pages of comments — only a small handful. And 4 out of 5 of those comments were from trolls who snuck in.
So, I am sorry that you were turned off on your first visit — I truly am — because Maryland Puma is also a dear friend of mine (even though we’ve never met!) and I hate to think that a friend of hers is not a friend of ours.
That being said, I stand by my comment. The woman who started the hate site to which I referred is a creep who propagates lies and slander against my members, my family, my friends, and myself. She lies and encourages lies and hate for no reason other than that she doesn’t like what we stand for.
When she insults our members she is lying about people like Carole, Heather, Annette, and Jackson. People like Kathleen, Mary Jo, Jeremy, and Theresa.
These are good, kind, sincere, and helpful people. People who reach out to others and work every day to make our country and our party a better place. Several of them are very vulnerable, either because of lifestyle, personal experience, age, economic situation, or illness.
People like Christina are ATTACKING the VULNERABLE when they post sites like hers — when they allow comments like the one at the top of our page to appear under their auspices.
They are a menace and a disgrace to every hard working, brave, and active citizen in this country, and they deserve to be called what I called them.
Like I said, I am not a swearing or crude person. Neither is the Puma PAC blog. I hope you will visit us again or spend some more time getting to know us before you decide whether Puma PAC is right for you. I sincerely hope it is.
#247 Lara08
I think it would be a great idea to predcede BO on his tour with a few facts about him and his story. Could prompt them to do factual not puff pieces in the foreign press. Besides it could really tick his campaign off – an added benefit.
Thank you Trish – you can send me more than that if you want – it won’t scare me off – and will be happy to help with the other portion that you mentioned -
I think someone posted on here – that it is not up to Dean or Pelosi regarding the roll call and placement on the ballot it is up to at LEAST 300 superdelegates to request it – when the campaign ended (this included those that switched over from her to him) she had 257 SD’s left – if ALL of them said yea to her – we would still need 43 more -
My suggestion is that we contact those that switched from her to him – think it was 28 – leaving us 15 left – I will have to look for it but someone else posted a website that showed those SD’s that endorsed him over her – even though she won their State (such as my Governor of Kentucky and W. Va) or their district – Sen Byrd of W.Va as well – so if we target that group first with a growl and swayed them to committ – who cares what Dean or Pelosi has to say – that is IF THE POSTER who said this knew what she/he was talking about. Anyone know how to find this out for sure – would give a direction for our SD letters -
Looking for another email now Trish – don’t be afraid – I put the puma cubs down for a nap so have the rest of the afternoon until evening and then again tomorrow.
Drac
#53 4hillinca on 07.19.08 at 10:47 am, WROTE,
[[ Okay I do not know how to cut and paste and do all that othe rcomputer stuff but someone sent this to me. ]]
Listen up…
And for any one who wants this info.
Cause it’s easy.
What you need to know is this: There is a small utility program inside of the Window’s directory (i.e. folder) called “Clipboard” and it is that little program that works on any program and is used everytime someone does a cut, copy, or paste.
That means that all programs, and yes, even when you cut, copy or paste one folder or file from Window’s Explorer. They all use the same Clipboard .EXE file to accomplish that task.
Look at your screen.
Look at any program.
Look up at your BROWSER.
See the main menu on top.
Look for the 2nd item, called, EDIT.
That is basically *all* you need to know.
Edit, Edit, Edit.
On any program.
Edit, Edit, Edit.
Scroll down that EDIT column or pull down window.
See,
Cut
Copy
Paste
Delete
Some are highligted while others are “dimmed” out. But once activated they will become functioning.
REMEMBER THIS IMPORTANT RULE:
Whatever you want to accomplish, whether it is to cut, copy, or paste, YOUR MOUSE POINTER MUST BE INSIDE THE PROGRAM BOX you are working on.—okay!
So let’s say you want to take something from Word or Notepad, or another website, for example; while inside of that software program, you either, SELECT ALL, or you run your mouse over the words or sentencs you want to copy to highlight them. Then, you *cycle* up the software program you want to paste it to, (like here), place your curser inside of that box, and click on the EDIT, PASTE.
Try it….
Cut, will delete from a program and is very rarely used, so just skip it for now, and work on these two:
Copy, will copy text and place it inside of clipboard.
Highlight, will capture the words you want to work with.
Paste, will drop it into the box your curser is on.
So basically, all you have to remember is this,
EDIT, COPY
EDIT, HIGHLIGHT
EDIT, PASTE
Note: once you run your mouse cursor over some words to highlight them, the words cut, copy, paste will loose their dimmed status and will appear and will now function.
USE YOUR BROWSER’s MAIN MENU on top.
Piece of cake.
Just riding riding your wave 4hillinca and mean no disrespect. But this is something many might want to try.
#269 Cosmeta
Why are you spending money on books from conservatives? Get it from the library. Don’t reward the people who would be crucifying Hillary if she was the presumed nominee. Just my tactic. I read some of them but don’t pay for them.
#181 COSMETA
I have:
P.U.M.A. Cash 3 Per Pg MS Word
P.U.M.A. Cash Single Bill JPG
will forward to Murphy
It was really hard to teach my hubby to copy and paste….I know how hard it is at first but when you get it….its piece of cake…:)
Don’t quote me on this one, but think I heard on Lou Dobbs show … watched it a 4am, so my mind might have been fuzzy…. but,
BHO is traveling on this fact finding mission as a US Senator and not as part of his campaign. IOW, we the tax payers are paying for it. So the mind has to wonder if we are also paying for the caravan of media he has accompanying him.
Oh! I almost forgot the reason I came in here:
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE LINK TO MURPHY’S BLOG TALK RADIO PROGRAM? I neeeeeeeeed it.
Thanks in advance.
REMINDER: It’s on tonight 8 Eastern (?)
Wow, it’s too bad that these Christina minions are such children….
Here’s another exchange:
Ummmm Knoxville,
Would you please enlighten me as to what the puma intentions are without posting a book.
You can skip the Hillary nomination thing because we all know it isn’t going to happen.
Please explain to me why puma/murphy is trying to shove McCain down our throats.
Posted by: pumabot | July 19, 2008 at 03:33 PM
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What’s the matter pumabot, can’t read books? Need short slogans and empty promises? Maybe if you had an attention span, you’d realize that you’re being fooled by a false profit.
Frankly, I was hoping for something better than this Christina, who seems to have learned something about delusions of grandeur from the CHOSEN ONE, and you all, her little minions, but you’ll due… for a start.
LET THE DIVISION OF THE PARTY THAT HAS FAILED US ALL SO BADLY BEGIN.
Thank you so much for all you’re doing!
Knoxville
Posted by: http://www.NotFallingInLine.org | July 19, 2008 at 03:42 PM
take the mouse to the first word you want to copy….left click the mouse and drag over the words you want to high light….. when they are high lighted…then put your mouse over the highlighted words and then click your right mouse button…. a box will appear then says copy……then you go to where you want the copy to go…then left click and a box will appear…select paste.
There are 3 new Republican oriented anti-obama ads out. One is about MO and is not overly effective, but the other two are pretty good because they show BHO’s weaknesses.
If I can find any links i will post them
Btw, Katrina was a troll who thought she, he or it was all so clever.
Oh, man.
So , I showed my gf the media matters report regarding MSNBC’s hardon for Hilary’s hairdo.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200807160005?f=h_latest
She was livid.
Wonder if we can get Greta or some talkshow radio hosts to bang the drum on this.
ATTENTION PUMAS IN THE SAN FRANCISCO AREA:
Here is the link to download the petition to get CINDY SHEEHAN on the November ballot. The number of signatures required from registered voters by AUGUST 8TH is 10,198. They have 6,593 so far. Let me remind you that Cindy is running as an Independent AGAINST NANCY PELOSI. Let’s help Cindy get her name on that ballot!
http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
Great Book. Most of you know of Fark.Com
http://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-News-Fark-Media/dp/1592402917/sr=8-1/qid=1168639219/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1500276-2229705?ie=UTF8&s=books&tag=farkcom-20
cosmeta
media pays for their accompanying flight.
Thing is, if he;s going as a senator, why is he handing out briefing notebooks on his “evolution of …” positions with that tacky faux presidential seal on the cover? oh, and wasn;t that seal supposed to be a one time deal?
Freakazoid lies about e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.
bruce55555 we need to run something like this by murphy. i would love to see hannity get one of the dnc (i don’t care who) on his show and then blast them with these remarks. how could they justify the party isn’t separarted, let alone they are now dragging in the whole country. both parties are now fighting for our votes, and it’s getting nasty everywhere!
Doesnt matter if Katrina was a troll or not. I stand by original comment, and my defense of it. Especially since I bet there are some true Puma PAC members out there who were surprised and even offended by my swearing.
DWP — here’s the link to the radio show:
here’s the call in number and time;
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
“Meet Me in Denver with Murphy and Friends” 9-10pm eastern, every saturday night.
Call-in Number: (347) 677-0792
Please call in!
It will be so LONELY without you!
Somewhere in yesterday’s posts, it was asked if there was anyone from Michigan in pumapac. Can’t remember who. Anyway, I am from Michigan. I live in Grandville just outside of Grand Rapids.
There are so many posts just got to reading some of them. Most, if not all, of the Nobama posts are just personal attacks. I try not to read too many of them. I used to answer them. I never got anywhere so have stopped trying. Maybe when an article (with accompaning posts) is printed like that we should state what puma is instead of trying to have a dialogue with them and leave the site. Let them just talk to themselves. That way we have put our case out there and we are getting them upset because we refuse to give them a platform to sprew their lies. We are still telling everyone what puma is without alowing Nobamas to tell us their theories on what we are. Just a thought. Grandchildren are here, check back in later.
311 Roxy in cali
re: petition
I bet the Southwest region (includes CA) would send that out to CAs as one of their broadcasts. It’s worth a try: southwest@pumapac.org
we have some VERY talented writers on here who could really present a case as to why this needs to go public. It wouldn’t take a whole puma growl to get the point across. I think tom abrahams is starting to see this and that is why he is giving us a lot of time.
Addition to cosmeta info on the clipboard where all the info goes until you complete your Edit action on it – you have to select the text to do something to it, then cut, copy, paste, etc will be in darker ink (enabled) and you can select it.
Excuse me Cosmeta if that was in your info too, I just didn’t see it.
Murphy:
“Especially since I bet there are some true Puma PAC members out there who were surprised and even offended by my swearing.”
I was shocked! I actually thought you were channeling me!
“DWP — here’s the link to the radio show:”
Thank you, ma’am.
not sure if this link was posted http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/
#297 Murphy,
I realize you werent talking about me (THERESA) but I’m going to think you were, I hope you dont mind?
TREEPUMA
241 antifish
When I heard this, it raised the hair on the back of my neck. Civilian National Security Force? Add this to Michelle Obama’s comments about what Barack will expect of us and you have the beginnings of a socialist society.
164 Katrina
..and if you have been getting death threats, what would you be saying I wonder?
#317 Dances,
Thank you.
#299 Goalucard4Hill
The switches are listed, I may be off on one or two but I don’t think so, I referenced hundreds and I do men hundreds to make sure I got that data down correctly. So as soon as well have their e-mails or faxes it would definitely be a great daily growl.
Sending more now
ANGRY PUMA HERE!
Why is it TAXPAYERS are picking up the bill of NOBAMA travelling in Europe? This is total ABUSE of TAXPAYERS MONEY!
Why he’s going to Afghanistan now? He was a subcommittee Chairman for Foreign Relation for over two years, he has NOT called a single hearing with NATO members fighting with our troops in Afghanistan. I am sick and tired of ABUSES committed by CORRUPT POLITICIANS like NOBAMA! People like Pelosi, Reid and other Democrats who SUPPORT this ABUSE OF POWER must be VOTED OUT of OFFICE!
How come NO ONE in the media is reporting this trip of NOBAMA in Europe is being PAID BY TAXPAYERS!
#164 Katrina,
“I disagree with your position, but because I know MarylandPUMA to be an intelligent woman I wanted to give you all a look-see out of respect for her.”
___________
Thank you for visiting us. Have a nice day.
Theresa, I most certainly was talking about you. I hope YOU dont mind!
THE VIEW
There seemed to be a hot-botton topic when Woopie used the “n” word. Her point was we are living in two different worlds, meaning I do suppose that it’s okay for a black person to use it but not for a white. This idealogy would seem to suggest that there are two sets of rules, one for black folk and one for white folk.
Now, in a way, I can understand wher Woopie is coming from… And I can also say I understand that within social groups or families we can take a so-called negative and run with it, or even make light of it. I mean, who in America has not be subject to some kind of divisiveness.
What I find it completely explainable as far as personal “experience(s)” go I do not think that derogatory words should be utilized by those in mass media, whether it is on TV, Cable, Satellite or radio, but only because it is the NAACP and other groups that have put a stop to its usage and condemned media for it; sometimes at the expense of firing people or suing media itself.
So Woopie… and Jessi…. you have every right to use it when talking to your family or friends, but you cannot undo what you did. If it is wrong for us, the ordinary citizen to use it becuase you have placed your guilt on us, then you shouldnt be allowed to use it either.
I am Italian-American and my social network has overcome ethnic slurs the same way ever other ethnic group has… We eventually reach a point of laughing at ourselves. But, no no no rants Rev Jeremiah Wright, the white folk are to blame for all of black society’s failings.
NOT, NOT SO!
Wake up and take responsibilty for your own lives.
And that goes for any social or ethnic group.
Cause in my day, we were taught this one basic guiding principle:
The whole idea of a family unit is to give your children everything you had and more; so that they can give to their children, and they to theirs. The whole idea is based upon the one basic principle of,
SELF-IMPROVEMENT
Because it is that, to which empowers.
Not blame…
Not lawsuits…
Not ousting people…
And NOT, segregation!
A partial snippet of The View contained within:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2jaWbtWp4Q&feature=email
315 Murphy
It was laughing out loud this morning when I read that. This woman is exactly how you described. That is the first time I had heard you swear on this post. OMG!
Oh please. Is this Katrina blogging from the Amish community? I think not.
This is the same double standard garbage we have heard for the last 9 months.
“I can do it, but you can’t” The abuser’s M.O.
The Women Suffrage Movement would be proud of us today. Let us celebrate. We have put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling. We have a lot of work still to do. We need to shatter the ultimate glass ceiling.
My login name is an abbreviation for:
At the time of the Arab aggression, the Berbers were ruled by a Queen of Jewish descent. Her name was Kahina (also spelt Cahina). Kahina’s name is also given variously as Dahiyah, Dahia, or Dhabba (Women in World History, v.8, p. 414.) The title Kahina meant Prophetess. The Encyclopedia Judaica (v. 10, p. 686) says that the term is derived from the old Hebrew “Kahin” (“soothsayer”) while some other sources say that “Kahina” was derived from the Hebrew root of the modern Jewish term “Cohen”.
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In the 7th century, the Berbers lived in uneasy peace with the Byzantines, who ruled the coastal cities of North Africa, after defeating the Vandals a century before. The ancient city of Carthage was the Byzantine capital in Africa. Some Berbers were Christians (with a notable tendency towards heresy), some were Jewish, and some adhered to their ancient polytheist religion. Before the end of the century the region faced a new calamity, the traditional rivals of the Berbers, the Byzantines were defeated and driven from Africa by the Muslim Arab hordes who poured out of the Arabian Peninsula and flattened everything in their wake.
The Berbers were the ancient indigenous people of North Africa west of Egypt. They were made up of many tribes, but they managed to maintain their culture, their Hamitic languages, and considerable military power during successive invasions of their land. In ancient times, North Africa had been colonized by the Phoenicians (who became the Carthaginians), they were followed by the Romans, the Vandals (one of the Germanic tribes that destroyed the Roman Empire), the Byzantines, and finally the Arabs. Other foreigners, notably Greeks and Jews, also ruled parts of ancient North Africa at different times.
What I fail to understand is why the AA people don’t realize that Obama is using them. He is half Caucasian and move Arabic then he is AA, I think 1/16th which isn’t very much.
He would be the first Caucasian/Arab President not Afican American.
#297 Murphy,
I certainly was not offended by what you said. That little twit, Christina, put your personal information out all over the web out of pure vindictiveness. The only thing I disagree with is that her supporters are shit flies. They haven’t quite matured to that state yet. They are still shit maggots!
Murphy, no I dont mind, I’m flattered, and thank you
TREEPUMA
dbs I havent seen another post by you but hope your still here Next time we will sit togeather ok? Hope to se ya again
# 164 Katrina
If you are still here, let me say that that outburst is certainly not typical of Murphy, but she has personally been attacked by the person she is addressing. She is the warmest, most patient person I’ve seen in a long, long time and that is why I am here. I, like Cosmeta said earlier, am a loner not a joiner, but I feel so outraged by Hillary Clinton’s treatment by her own party, I came back out of retirement from my politically active days to fight back. My experience with this group has been so positive and supportive that I am here for good. I fyou views are so opposed to ours that you can’t stay, I understand, but there is so much good information on this site, it might be worth your while to stay awhile. Besides we love MarylandPuma and would hate to hurt her.
#64mpdamon , #72Lin4Hill, #75Storytellers,#77Goalucard4Hill, #267Scathcart, #249Lara08 : you are all right ! It is a good idea to contact the press of each European country BO will visit BEFORE he arrives : as I said , I’ve started to do that in France, but if they receive a lot of mails, they will realize that what I’ve told them is true, that this is serious, that I am not a frustrated Hillary fan ! Some of you should contact the French media too…
#236MadLogic : Hi ! I’m fine, thanks. But I’m not from Paris : i am from Lyon, in the South East of France.
#298BigCatLover : Hello ! I just want to tell you I am a big cat lover too ! I’ve got a lot of them here.
#273 hi antifish ! how are you ?
Sorry, but I can’t resist. Unfortunately, they’re not worth wasting any more time on. Too bad! This will be my last comment about the childish minions over at Christina’s place:
Kevin ~
First, let me say by way of a compliment that you guys have been mildly amusing this afternoon.
I could care less about this Andy Martin.
As I wrote in my first comment here: we are standing up for the core principles of our democracy.
Darragh is but a single link in the chain.
And you’re in way over your head.
Your lame attempts at refuting our arguments by offering only ad hominem attacks make you look, well, stupid.
Any other logical fallacies you care to try using against us?
Knoxville
Posted by: http://www.NotFallingInLine.org | July 19, 2008 at 04:02 PM
Hi Pumas
interesting post from this morning battle on AOL political machine. Subject:” Has Puma met its match?”Many pumas including me went to war to respond to this article of Tommy Christopher (corny name) mentionning the coming of the anti puma Christina. Obviously they are monitoring our sites (they might learn something anyway) and it is a just wasteland journalism to give only one quote of Murphy where she is cursing Christina. So we posted some nice respectful answer and I was pleased to read this post which i don’t take as sacarstic.
From 1of18millions¬puma “Gosh Pumas certainly are the most well mannered group I’ve ever seen. Please do go on, I am learning more and more about your PAC with every post ”
Sounds good does it.
Murphy go wash your mouth with soap. LOL
265 Lady for sure that first one isnt his if we can help it thanks
Just found the site keep up the great work,Puma!
keep the flip flopper out of that oval office.
Murphy-
So glad to see you on the blog today. Seems like without your positive influence some of us start heading into that black hole of depression…again. At least I did.
I have a few thoughts for future letters to the delegates.
When the database is finished, (I hope it is really soon, we are still working on it. Maybe we could concentrate on a few key states like Michigan and Florida first???)
I think we should address not only the issue of putting Hillary in nomination but also the travesty of the election for not only Fla and Michigan but the meaning of individual votes for our citizens and how having the election won by delegates will cause future democrats to think their votes are not important and will break down the democratic party in the future.
Maybe invite them to see the PUMA sites with links so they can see the PUMAs are not Republicans in sheep’s clothing. Maybe also mention the struggle of women and men in this country and how PUMA is an important part of this struggle. That even after Nov 5th, this group will continue to fight to give back elections to the voters.
I think giving them real information about us will work on their subconscious, letting them have time to think about the out come of this election and democracy based on their decision instead of voters.
I think just sending a ton of emails to let them know we are huge isn’t the only thing we should strive for, but that the outcome of the delegate vote will not only influence this election but future voting.
Please don’t ask me to write a draft of this, I suck at composing a decent letter and you and many PUMA are much better in this skill than I am.
3 cents worth.
Hey everyone!
#82 ClintonRules on 07.19.08 at 11:12 am, WROTE,
[[ I’m having a little bit of trouble scrolling up the page (mouse issues) but I did see a few comments directed to me.]]
Long time ago… oh, maybe have the same mouse for about 6 years… was about to go out and buy a new one thinking mine was breaking, when my son says, “ma ma ma… did you ever bother to clean it.” How do I do that, I asked. He took out his pc non-magnetic screw driver, opened the lid, and showed me how to clean it using noting more than some rubbing alchohol, a Qtip, and a toothpick for gently scrapping off hard to get to wheels. That and this neat little aresol can called, Compressed Static Air Spray.
Does the trick everytime, … cause my pc is constantly getting clogged with dog hair.
)
Hey Maryland PUMA…good afternoon.
Delphine
cool I was in the vieux Lyon 2 months ago. We had great quenelles.
I’m also an angry PUMA. Also, posted this link earlier and I want to know why everything is about race these days. New journalism for journalists of color. This is outrageous, we are all supposed to be one. http://www.2008unity.org/
Also, I am of Italian-American decent and I call myself an American. Why are the AA’s not just Americans like everyone else? They are the main problem of segregation. I was recently disinvited to a gathering not only because my husband wasn’t going but also because it was for AA’s. Later, I found out that it wasn’t closed to whites. Anyway, this unity journalism is a bunch of cra***.
Request for posting length limitation on new website
Please do take this the wrong way, but is it possible to have a character limit on postings in the new site, such as 750 characters per post.
Some days the posts are longer than MO’s arm in here and they can be condensed, rule of writing KISS, Keep it Short n` Simple.
Happy Birthday Seneca Falls! 160th anniversary, what do we have to show in the advancement of women in this “so-called” modern society of ours? Very little. This primary have proven time and time again, the biggest hindrance for any woman to be President of USA are women themselves. The word “equal” between men and women is plain word, it doesn’t carry an ounce of weight; women are still treated a second class citizen in this country. We’ve all seen how the media full of men labeled Hillary all kinds of name that would make women of the past fighting for equality flinch. Women in this country are subjected to all kinds of insults; Hillary was called all kinds of names by NOBAMA supporters and NOBAMA himself flipped her off.
Different organizations like NAACP, ACLU address racial discrimination; they MISSED something very important, TREATMENT OF WOMEN in this country. The WOMEN of AMERICA comes in different colors, race and sizes; as long as WOMEN of AMERICA are not treated as EQUAL from workplace to politics, discrimination will NEVER end.
#342 Maryland PUMA
Hi there, Hope you and your daughter feel a little better.
#276 TAFFY That’s her campaign office and that is where I’ve been trying to call the last couple of weeks and no answer. I used to talk to people there all the time.
#342 Maryland PUMA ,
Hope you and the kids are feeling better. I told Murphy what a great job you did when she was gone.
347 TrishfromCanada
LMAO!
#347
ohhh gawd that was supposed to be please do not take this the wrong way, lol although its rather humourous as it stands right now
Sounds like Big Papa helped write Michelle Obama thesis from Princeton. That was full of hate too. Oh well…birds of a feather. GO PUMAS!!!!!!!
Hi Veritas09 !
Great !
Do you speak French ?
#347 TrishfromCanada,
I agree with you on most of what you said, however there are times when there needs to be some place if not on the blog to post newspaper articles and such that are longer than that. I posted one yesterday because it wasn’t on the internet and had no link.
#162 jm1673 thanks for that site I was not surprised by Michele’s opinion she has no tact. I do hope Bill O’Reilly does unlease his fury on those media people following Nobama that is so horrible and oh so biased it is hard to believe.
#356 texassherry
good point, but what about posting an excerpt from the newspaper then linking the rest?
Thanks Billie Jo #342
Hi MP!
Folks — let me share this with you. I can’t give details, but our emails and calls last week have made an impact.
How do I know? I have received several outreaching emails in the last 24 hours from some power players who are supportive of us.
I know you trust me when I say that I cannot be public about this stuff. But I CAN say that our efforts are MAKING A DIFFERENCE. The Voice of the Voters is being heard.
Calling, emailing, and writing letters really DOES work. When a Super Delegate receives FIVE HUNDRED emails in ONE DAY from FIVE HUNDRED individual voters ALL ACROSS the COUNTRY, they KNOW that something is UP.
Let’s not fret. Let’s take a deep breath and pat ourselves on the back. Let’s reach out to neighbors and friends and tell them how downright FUN it is to be an active American citizen. It’s free, simple, and invigorating. Especially when we have this forum to come back and share, inform, and BRAG to each other.
Being all in this together is a lot more fun than being outside alone.
#315 Murphy…good luck on the radio program tonight. I wil try to call in. Did you see the post from yesterday about the PUMA conference in DC for Aug. 8-10th? Remember to announce that if you can.
I have a motto…don’t give energy to something that you don’t want to be enlarged. I just brush off negative comments that I have come across on the blogs. I figure those people/souls are incurrring lots of negative karma and I wouldn’t want to deal with what they will have to whenever the scales get balanced.
Of course, severe threats need to be dealt with by reporting them to authorities. What ever happened to
to respect and human decency with these people. Seems to be a character flaw developing in the society.
omg… just read that mans comments after the …. sheesh read them earlier when Murphy put them online, but…… How disgusting … If these are his followers… we must stop HIM!!!
#358 TrishfromCanada,
There was no link. I actually retyped the whole thing from a local newspaper.
164 Katrina
Just wanted to say that Murphy’s comment cracked me up. I wasn’t offended at all and merely took it as letting off some well deserved steam.
293 Asian4Hillary
I agree with Asian4Hillary that sometimes PC can be taken too far. There’s without a doubt a time and place for it… but as a country… we do need to lighten up just a tad and give some slack for those (such as Murphy) who must have to deal with an awful lot of awful stuff from the Obamatrons.
How exciting Murphy…. thank you so much… I am so glad I read that about our effect with emails… and phone calls!!!!
Katrina is not a troll, pumas, she is one of my best friends.
I had held back from discussing politics with her due to a discussion we had had late last year.
I found myself in a discussion with her again this past week and she had some good questions that I thought the PRIDE would be better able to answer since we’re spread out in our specialties. So I invited her in!
In defense of Murphy, I was quite shocked to see that coming from her, although it’s mild considering the vicious stuff we get from trolls and O supporters. She never talks like that – and is vigilant on the board about anything that could be construed as the very things we fight.
For the record, the “Christina” that Murphy was speaking of is the one who published Murphy’s home address on the internet – and with the death threats and sexual violence threats Murphy’s received lately, I can’t say I blame her for being VERY angry.
359 murphy
Also… I’m a little slow in catching up with all the posts… but this is fantastic news. It makes me soooo proud. Well… I better force myself away and get some work done.
I’m back and catching up on all the comments, kind of a sad/bad day here so i thought I’d check in see if anything is gonna on here .
Murphy I am sure you must get so ‘discouraged’ doing so much for Hillary and then you have death threats, unfounded criticism, and you have to weigh every word that come’s out of your mouth for fear you will ‘offend’ only to have Bill and Hillary say they support Nobama and Bill say’s he thinks Bo is the best person to bring about change. I admire you and I think you are a strong , moral person and all the true puma’s have your back. I say to the people who condemn you tish! tish! on them
Sorry to hear that Slyt2
Can I still wish you Happy Birthday?
#358 TrishfromCanada,
I do agree with you that if there is a link then we should use it. I just didn’t know how else to share the local newspaper article, but maybe once the action center is back up we can have a section for that sort of thing.
MP: Maybe you would like to talk to her and explain? I think she came in the middle of the discussion and didn’t know why the anger was there.
368 Pookie
I second that pooks.
#350 ladyhawkke her staff has been cut since she suspended but they are there. I accidntally go t a number where a real person answers but I think there are only like 3 or 4 people in the office on a regular basis.
#367 slyt2,
Welcome back. Sorry to hear you’re not having a good day. My dad used to say ‘things are never so bad that they cannot get worse’, so, cheer up, you’re in PUMALAND!
OH, and it’s hotter than the flames of Hades in my house. No fix for the A/C till tomorrow. Sigh.
Will have to go do some chores around here. I’m very addicted and can’t get anything done. I keep coming back to check to see if I missed anything. LOL! Hopefully, if I don’t get back here, I’ll see a PROWL in my mailbox tomorrow. Thanks for all the work everyone is doing to make this site possible.
Delphine Oui un peu . Et je prefere Lyon A Paris.
I read some of the French Press and the article in le Point. I still believe That French are still more anti Bush than pro Obama but there I don’t trust the MSM to inform the French on who Obama really is.
Yes Maryland Puma that would be very nice…
#359 murphy
How do I know? I have received several outreaching emails in the last 24 hours from some power players who are supportive of us.
Being all in this together is a lot more fun than being outside alone.
Thanks so much Murphy, that is the boost I need.
You ROCK girl! You pick us up when we want to pick you up after what you went though. PEACE.
Cosmeta
Email me and I will forward to her until you get fixed.
#347… LADYHAWKE… I am going to send them all this letter from a disinfranchised Michigan voter… reminding them we are all Americans UNITED!!! I know I have posted this before, but feel it is appropriate in this instance:
by: 1 black Detroit mom aka vote theft victim #3
Sunday April 28th 2008 the Rev. Jeremiah Wright came to Detroit Michigan to address the Michigan NAACP. He gave a sermon with a very focused message, vote Barack Obama and I am not a racist. Well after listening to his sermon and taking time to absorb his oration, I am astounded at just how insulated Rev. Wright must be, ethnically, socially and culturally or is that just what he aspires for his followers?
Apparently the esteemed Rev. Wright has missed a large part of the world I live in. The world I live in is full of color and individual variances, we have blue, green, pink, red and any other color of hair we have people with a lot of cranial accessories (facial jewelry), we have heterosexuals working alongside homosexuals that do not experience discrimination and vice versa, we have white and black and brown and any color you can image that attend church together, work together, we live along side each other, we travel together, our children go to school together, we are involved in our community together, we dine together, we walk through the same doors, we drink from the same fountains. America has been changing, apparently Rev. Wright has not rather it would seem he has hidden from progress.
Rev. Wright was correct about one thing, “different is not defective”. Guess what Rev. Wright. Most of America already knows that and lives it everyday. Although it appears the esteemed Rev. Wright has segregated himself and his community to the point that this concept is new to him. I am going to go Rev. Wright one better, different is not defective different is delightful. Rev. Wright different is beautiful, colorful, and interesting and in this day and age it is not discouraged it is encouraged.
Despite his constant subliminal Vote for Barack Obama “Change is coming” messages, it was apparent rather than seeking unity and progress he was using the art of phraseology and the beautiful spirit filled exuberance of the black church to put emphasis on his underlying message of separatism.
My roots are not in Africa, my ancestors were, my neighbors roots are not in Europe, their ancestors where, my roots are in America. I am a person of color, but I am a American I am not an African and make no mistake my loyalties lie with America Rev. Wright. I do not wish to separate myself nor my family from America I do not wish to see a black America and white America and yellow America and brown America.
Rev. Wright I grew up on welfare in “the projects”. I am now a college graduate a wife and mother of 2 children. I will not teach my children to look for injustices because if they cant make it in this world and rise above the unfairness we all experience in life it is their own deficiencies not societies. If you teach children to look for injustices they will always find them and they will always see others of another color as out to hold them down, with an attitude like that they will never find successes.
I do not now nor have I ever nor will I ever tolerate Ebonics in my household, while we do not speak the English of England or Europe we do speak, in this house, the English of America, because Rev. Wright we are American’s in this house. I am personally sick and tired of hearing all about the mother land Africa, yes our history is beautiful and colorful and sad and frightening and bright and vibrant but my mother land is America my ancestors mother land was Africa. I will tell you what apparently other blacks don’t want to tell you or are afraid to tell you, if you feel so strongly that big bad whitey is out to get you and the mother land Africa needs so much help then you should leave you mansion in Illinois and go to Africa and do your nasty separatist work there.
Just a thought… bill Nelson is working on that new bill for election reform. Would it be such a bad idea to offer to help him spread the word after the Dem convention is over? We would need to read up on it and see if there are things we don’t agree with, but we do all agree the system has to be changed. We are organized, he has the ability to sponsor bills. Seems like a match to me!
Happy Birthday to slyt2
Happy Birthday to slyt2
Happy Bithday Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday to slyt2
:: be glad I’m not singing or you’d get a serenade from the neighborhood dogs too ::
#359 Murphy – that is encouraging news! Thank you for the update.
Please stay safe. Don’t forget the advice I gave you via email.
Cosmeta — just saw your comment .
love love love it.
Thank you.
mp is forwarding me your email.
very strange.
thanks.
Maryland,
Your friend, Katrina, upset me because she obviously has a double standard. She is all upset about what Murphy wrote this morning, but she seems to have found a new home over on Christina’s site and found no offense in this post. She made no mention of it despite it being just two posts above her own.
_____________________________________________
Murphy is in a snit because she’s been exposed as a GOP ratfucker.
I think it’s as simple as that. Sure, there are “real” PUMAs out there, like these NINE losers who showed up for a San Francisco PUMA rally.
But that’s a classic ratfuckery tactic: The Repubs latch on to a small but disgruntled group and blow it up out of all proportion to its numbers to sew discord. Their media arm, FOX News, is of course willing to help.
_____________________________________________
Murphy,
Feel free to remove my comment at #333. It was reposted at Christina’s site within minutes.
I don’t wish to offend anyone, but I’m sick of the feigned outbreaks of outrage when, once in a while, someone expresses their true emotions. Considering what we’re up against, I think we usually show a lot of restraint.
Happy Birthday Slyt2!!!
#337-Delphinefromfrance, Hi I don’t think I ever said welcome and a great BIG thank you for all you do.
#370 texassherry
It’s ok Sherry I was not referring to any one person, I should have sent it to Murphy and Maryland in private as a suggestion. My reason for suggesting it though is that I often read the blog from work, and if they are really long I have to skip over them due to time constraints.
most of the really long ones can be shortened but really this is just my opinion, I’m sure others will differ with me.
#375 Roxy in cali that’s why I come back to “Pumaland” cuz this place does make me believe anything is possible. Thank you goandersen.
Murphy it’s in moderation on the site
384 Maryland PUMA on 07.19.08 at 4:39 pm Happy Birthday to slyt2
I love it..
Happy Birthday to slyt2
Happy Bithday Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday to slyt2
oh yes, indeed, regarding the ever so intelligent post to HireHeels by yet another misogynist: Political Dissent is now R A C I S T. Yes, we’ve heard your Crocodile Tears over and over and over and over again.
this FASCIST mentality is exactly why nObama is BAD NEWS for our wonderful country and ALL its people. We make this melting pot work because EVERYBODY has the First Amendment Right to Freedom of Speech, Peaceably Assemble and Petition the Government for a Redress of Grievances!!!!
337 Delphinfromfrance
I wanted to thank you as well. I can’t wait to hear about the responses you receive!
#390 TrishfromCanada ,
I didn’t think you were pinpointing me and I really do agree with you. It is hard sometimes to keep of with posts when they are so long.
I actually answered myself in the above posts. In the future if I don’t have a link and have to type the whole article I will send it to Murphy and ask her to put it in the action center. Actually I think having a section in the action center for just news is a great idea. Then everyone could go there when they have time and read up on everything.
Murhy,
Is that okay with you?
anifish
can you clarify the “ratfuckery tactic” LOL
Sorry about the typo. It should have been…
Murphy,
Is that okay with you?
#359 murphy on 07.19.08 at 4:28 pm
News like that give me goosebumps.
But, by “Power Players” can you give more of a hint of the type?
Thanks.
Don’t forget to download and read the doc from the McCain folks.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/mccain_campaigns_parting_gift.php
I think it’s clever and could prove to be useful for some of our action items.
#375 roxi the saying in our house was “i’m so low a snake would trip over me” good thing “he’s” overseas
122 Hillgirl,
“Red States in play. Senator Obama said last year he would boost black turnout in November, putting in play Southern states that normally vote reliably Republican, including Georgia and Virginia.
More recently, he told reporters on his campaign plane that those states are in play. He’s apparently correct in his assessment of his chances in Virginia, but he appears to be dead wrong about Georgia. ”
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/7/18/anti-obama-democrats-pelosis-bush-blast-and-red-states-in-play.html?msg=1
Thanks for the link… but did you know that one of the ways he is attempting to increase the black vote is to go into the jails to get new sign-ups for those who have not been convicted yet.
Some nice guy this Obamination dude.
#397 veritas,
No, I don’t think I can. It doesn’t sound like something I would get into though.
322 tree and LilyMaid…
Tree, in my exurberance to help pay down Senator Clinton’s debt, I ended up with two too many t-shirts.
Since you and LilyMaid will not be going to Denver in August, I’d like to make a gift of one each of you. The one for you is a belated birthday gift.
Now, we just have to figure out how to get them to each of you. Begin brainstorming.
#383 Taffy….I think that is a great idea!!!
” bill Nelson is working on that new bill for election reform. Would it be such a bad idea to offer to help him spread the word after the Dem convention is over”
Think as a group we need to be looking for purpose beyond the convention.
Yes Murphy, that is really great news. I will sure keep up my part in spreading the word and anything else I am asked to do. Maryland puma, I hope you are feeling better but with that heat I know how miserable you are. Please be careful in that heat.
#393 Slyt2,
Singing Happy B-day in Spanish just for You:
Feliz cumpleanos Slyt2, Feliz cumpleanos Slyt2, que los cumplas dichosa, Feliz cumpleanos Slyt2.
Pumaresponders – you have my blessing! I’m flattered. Go for it!
I would also like to see some shorter posts with the articles but I think it’s important to post the link and a little blurb of what it’s about on this page so PUMAs don’t have to go out of the posts to action center to read the links. It’s difficult enough posting and going back to where you left off.
1 cent.
#127 wontbackdown on 07.19.08 at 12:25 pm, WROTE TO,
[[ #110 murphy… You cannot imagine the news coverage here the other day over one of our council members making a policy issue related comment about it: “‘Falling into a black hole”
One black council member went ballistic - called it a racially insensitive statement (complained that we say “black light is bad - white light is good”, etc., etc., etc.) ]]
I saw that one on tv…
Pretty soon if this crapola continues they will have to elliminate the word black-list from our spam filters. We will only be allowed to use a white-list.
And as Lou Dobbs would say,
Imagine That!
TOPIC: msnbc anti-Hillary
veritas09
Thanks for your note.
What do you think about the findings, though?
Do you think microsoft and/or General Electric have some sort of vendetta against Clinton, or is it all about just wanting a Republican in office for protecting profits?
I have no clue. Maybe someone else will post on it.
Happy Birthday slyt2 I hope the rest of the day is super like you!!
#366 Maryland PUMA,
Katrina is over at Christina Cedeno’s site reposting your comments and mocking them.
If she’s not a troll, then I don’t know what “troll” means.
Let’s try a word we can all comprehend:
You’re friend’s a b….!
#387 antifish
You rock. LOL… you’re awesome.
BTW… I would like to say that I have tremendous respect and trust in Murphy and would just like to state for the record that she can say or do no harm in my book.
MadLogic,
Thanks for the link!
I think there is another post somewhere too that has an even longer list, but this is a great summary, thanks again.
PUMA FAUX CURRENCY
Before I forward the replacement Puma faux cash to Murphy, I’d like to replace the “We aren’t bitter, We’re informed” logo with something more timely…
any suggestions?
#408 BillieJo,
Good point. The article that I was discussing was totally retyped from a local paper so I had no link. I guess what I could do is just put in the post that there is an article at the action center and say a few words on what the content is about.
ClintonRules
NoBama, NoVember, NoJoke
Hey I like it!!
And so the intimidation continues…
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/top_democratic_official_sends.php
Top Dem Party Officials Send Sharply-Worded Email Demanding That Hillary Donors And Supporters Get Behind Obama
By Greg Sargent – July 19, 2008, 12:20PM
In a sign that senior Democratic officials remain deeply concerned that post-primary bitterness could imperil Barack Obama’s chances, two top Democratic officials have emailed a sharply-worded letter to major donors and other leading Dems confessing “fatigue and irritation” at those withholding full support from Obama and demanding that they get behind him “without conditions or demands.”
332 hebrew.que
Welcome, and welcome to all newcomers!
418 pa dem
“leading Dems confessing “fatigue and irritation” at those withholding full support from Obama and demanding that they get behind him “without conditions or demands.”
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL
oh my god….. these people are so out of touch!
“demanding”, “without conditions being made”.
Like a scolding daddy.
schmucks.
NotFallinginLine
BACK THE F OFF
She is a firm believer in fact and has every right to research the things we claim on this site. I, yes, I invited her to do so.
Hi, I’m back again and ready to help however I can. I made an error last night, before I figured out how to forward my gmail and had to get a new one before I could come back. Hopefully this time I’m here to stay.
blessings to all and Happy Birthday Seneca Falls, wish I could be there!
1happywitch(lilwitch44,witchy4hil,2witchy,&witchy 1)
Also… I don’t know if anyone has been watching FOX this afternoon… but they keep airing a story about these women (in Afghanistan) that were abducted by the Taliban and put into a truck and taken to a remote area where they pulled them out into the field and then executed them. A reporter who was with them, pleaded with them not to execute them. They refused. The reporter asked if he could film, they refused… but it was too late… the reporter already had his camera rolling unbeknownst to the Taliban. Fox showed the images.
I mention this story because on the same day… I see an article in MSM about Obama’s visit to Afghnaistan. I don’t see any mention of these events in his world experiences. I did see a report on FOX of him shooting a few hoops with the troops.
go anderson / rosecity friend:
WOW! Thanks for posting that. Yes, I’ve believed all along Hillary does not want us to do anything that might embarrass her. Contacting the Superdels should continue to be our #1 priority. Media second, but a close second.
If we could just figure out a way to get this entire movement into an AP (Associated Press) story, that would be the start of huge progress w/msm…
409 Cosmeta
Does this mean I won’t be able to buy black licorice too?
Happy Birthday to Slyt2!
#406 Roxy in cali & #411 jane-pa Thanks now I feel loved..:)
Dances with Pumas,
I thank you for the gift, I cant believe it, its so wonderful, I will leave my address with Murphy, that is if Murphy doesnt mind, I just dont know what to say, so I’m just going to sit here for awhile until I stop crying, it’s a wonderful birthday gift, again thank you
TREEPUMA
#382,bmw60
it is obvious, that race is very profitable for the golden boy platform, it also seems that money- wise is also very profitable some churches, that somehow are politically oriented
IT IS A SHAMELESS ACT TO OPEN WOUNDS ALREADY CLOSED FOR THE SAKE OF POLITICAL BENEFIT
#425 cjv
thank you
412 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
“Let’s try a word we can all comprehend:
You’re friend’s a b….!”
Wow. That was/is low.
Someone seems to have missed the point that we’ve all been complaining about Obama’s frat boys doing.
Interesting how they all have the ability to REVERT.
428 tree
aawwwww ((((tree))))
As Murphy would say: No crying, silly Puma.
Murphy-thanks for sharing the news. You are exactly right. This activism stuff is a blast. I am thoroughly enjoying myself. I’ve been busy making my killer margarita recipe and whipping up some super fattening desserts for our shindig tonight. We are celebrating the Seneca Falls Anniversary, and I am so looking forward to meeting fellow pumas goanderson and billiejo. Lifesize Hillary is going to knock their socks off.
Roxyincali, landipuma or any other bay area pumas-party at my den tonight. pumarizz at gmail dot com
DWP: If you go on to read the article, they actually post who sent the “out of touch” piece of drivel.
#433 greenfun
no onions on the pizza, ok
…this deserve PUMA Growl…
__________________________
Dear Democratic Friends:
2008 is a Democratic year-at all levels in all the states. The opportunity is ours. We just have to seize it.
We experienced an exciting, intense, sometimes difficult, campaign to nominate our presidential candidate. Now it’s over. Barack Obama won.
I supported Hillary Clinton and am proud and pleased that I did. But she lost. Barack Obama won. It’s over.
It is time for all Democrats, supporters of Senator Clinton and all other contenders for the nomination, to stand with him to secure his election and the election of Democrats at all levels of competition.
I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.
It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion. It’s time to put the primaries behind us. It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.
It’s time to WIN for Barack Obama, the Democratic Party, America, and our future. We have an unparalleled opportunity. I hope we will all do everything we can to seize the moment.
See you at the Inauguration.
Sincerely,
Don Fowler
DNC Member At-Large, South Carolina
Former Chair of the Democratic National Committee
Alice Germond
Secretary, Democratic National Committee
http://tinyurl.com/6z8ujy
#142 catsrlove on 07.19.08 at 12:46 pm, WROTE,
[[ Hello to my fellow PUMAS.. I got four e-mails today that I do not understand. They all say the same thing, but with different names.
“This is a warning message only. Delivery to following recipients has been delayed.
What’s up with that??
]]
Some email servers will put things in a holding bin while they are being scanned for virus. Plus, sometimes mail gets delayed because someone email box is full… and with that some email servers will try again.
I’ve already gotten in prompts that say, undeliveable but will try for 3 days, etc.
******************
[[ #53 4hillinca I can’t copy and paste either. I have two pcs: Dell Windows XP and HP Windows Vista. Neither one has made me any smarter.. LOL ]]
Dont know about XP or Vista, but if any one still has Win98 all we have to do is go to the START BUTTON, and type in the word, WELCOME and windows will run a tuturial for you.
See my response,
#300 cosmeta on 07.19.08 at 3:33 pm
hillstheone
it help but I am still researching for CNN and their almost 100% pro-Ob political team.All of them are OP-ED journalists /analysts. CNN is pretty far leftist on many issues and their executives must be as well “red millionnaires” I think medias are just corrupt and high on rating. They just keep making romance stories to keep their 24/7 spin cycles.
#421 Maryland PUMA
I will not “BACK THE F OFF!”
Achieving our goals is more important than whatever it is you think you’re defending.
What’s wrong with you?
Hasn’t this whole exercise revealed that these messages are being monitored and that the jackals who are doing the monitoring are using ad hominem attacks against us, as people, in an effort to discredit our arguments.
You might want to develop a thicker skin – and learn who your true friends are – if you want to be part of a political action committee.
To paraphrase Hillary Clinton:
I’m your friend. You’ll have to ask Katrina about what she is to you.
433 greenfun
Aaawww green, I can’t make it today
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/clintons4mccain/2008/07/19/Does-Hillary-REALLY-Have-a-Chance
Hey guys, Clintons4McCain is on now…
NotFallingInLine – where are the comments Katrina is making that are mocking MP? Please provide a link so I can go comment there.
#304 cosmeta on Bo’s trip with our tax dollars.
I was also thinking about how he is likely using this more for tying in with his ‘presumptive’ nomination. If attempting to appear as going as a senator, along with his inability to speak without a teleprompter, one can only hope he gaffes and makes a closer more obvious connection to his campaign. I hope some news watchdogs will pay close attention. I am sure us PUMAs will.
439 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org,
With all due respect…
Please continue your conversation with Marylandpuma through emails. Arguing amongst ourselves in a public forum does not reflect well for our cause.
greenfun,
That sounds so awesome! Wish I lived nearby!
#436 FLGirl
What a load of crock from those 2, comparing this election process to the outcome of a tennis match and basketball game. Both of those fools should be ashamed of themselves.
Fowler supported Clinton then moved into Bo’s camp before June
Alice remained uncommitted but must have sipped the kool aid recently.
Here are their e-mails if anyone wants to send them a good ole PUMA hug:
don@fowlercommunications.com
germonda@dnc.org
veritas09,
“They just keep making romance stories to keep their 24/7 spin cycles,” You got that right!!
gald slyt2 Pumas a good family. Yes even family disagree sometimes:)
pumas please watch the language. Be well mannered is effective even more so when we need to blow some steam. I don’t want to see insults quoted in reference to us.
Thank you for your calm strengh.
#433 greenfun
I’ll be there greenfun, looking foward to meeting you!
#442 Dragonfly
Here it is:
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/
HOWEVER, I’ve already done as good a job ripping into them as can be done, and they just thrive on attention. I suggest you read the comments, but not make any. Don’t feed the immature nonsense and they will soon go away.
But, if you choose to comment, GIVE ‘EM HELL!
#444 texassherry – well said
You all need to stop paying attention to trolls and trolls sites. Period.
Be adults and grown ups and ignore them.
I believe that this site shouldn’t be used as a ‘hangout’. There are plenty of other sites that you can just simply socialize and whatnot. Come here to post articles that you find, discuss action plans and stuff of that sort.
The sensitivity of everyone is not helping.
I don’t know if this is possible but if a post needs to be moderated and the author scolded, can’t it be done behind the scenes? If someone says something stupid, can’t we delete it and then a moderator, diplomatically, let’s that individual why and to repeat that that crap won’t be tolerated here.
I’m tired of coming here and people are bickering. Doesn’t make any sense.
We have a lot of hard work. Stay focused and email the moderators when you have an issue. It’s ridiculous to have cat fights here on the blog.
Now, has anyone looked at McCain’s press packet for the Euro BO trip? It’s may be useful especially in swing states.
Pending the Convention results, we should also keep in mind that afterwards, we’ll need to keep the redstates red, swing the swingstates and try to convert some others like NJ. (Imagine if NY AND MA went McCain).
goanderson-that is terrible news. If you made it, I was going to send Hillary home with you as I know how much you covet her. Oh well, we will knock one back for you, and maybe catch up with you in Denver.
Puma PAC ACTION CENTER is BACK!
http://blog.pumapac.org/puma-pac-action-center/
An unbelievably big thank you to Bill.
Also thank you to everyone who has helped and contributed.
I’ll be making it prettier over the next few days.
Thank you again Bill!!!!
#441 joanna0902 thanks i forgot all about it.
NotFallinginLine
You stepped over the line of decency. Just because she and I do not agree on this subject does not make her any less of a friend to me. We have been friends since our children were two – and they are best friends.
One of the things she was disgusted with on this site was the name calling – and you just blew my defense right out the GD window.
She has a right to her opinion. I respect that and I respect her.
How dare you threaten my involvement in this PAC. I respect each and every one of my ‘friends’ on this site until they attack someone I love and that is where I draw the line.
I’m telling you – BACK OFF.
TOPIC: And speaking of CNN…
Veritas, there’s a story up on Anderson Cooper’s site today about Michelle Obama.
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/17/michelle-obama-armed-and-dangerous/
I really liked this comment made by a poster from Los Angeles:
The suggestion that how Michelle Obama is perceived within society is based upon race and gender is extremely troubling.
I would suggest that Michelle Obama’s actions, positions and delivery have more to do with how she is viewed than her skin color or gender.
Although your statistics about African American women may be accurate, they certainly do not pertain to Ms. Obama.
Ms. Obama was educated at Princeton and Harvard; she may have received scholarships and financial aid; she may have been given business opportunities others would die for; for someone who has been afforded many breaks, she comes off as a bit thankless.
Michelle Obama and her husband worshiped for twenty years with a separatist and racist; one could ask if the Obama’s are able to accept all people equally.
With her husband’s book advances and Tony Rezko’s assistance, the Obama’s were able to buy a million dollar plus home.
Add in the $8K monthly retainer the Obama’s received from a Chicago entrepreneur who Obama eventually paid back with $300K in Chicago tourism board money and Michelle Obama should be one of our nation’s happiest citizens.
~ ~ ~
Hey we need to recruit some of these bloggers off of CNN’s website, ha-ha!
Antifish-I definitely wished you lived nearby. You are my hero!!!
Incidentally, I do have to make the comment that if piece of shit is bad, what does that make ratfucker?
Murphy is in a snit because she’s been exposed as a GOP ratfucker.
I think it’s as simple as that. Sure, there are “real” PUMAs out there, like these NINE losers who showed up for a San Francisco PUMA rally.
But that’s a classic ratfuckery tactic: The Repubs latch on to a small but disgruntled group and blow it up out of all proportion to its numbers to sew discord. Their media arm, FOX News, is of course willing to help.
I mean, if there were literally millions of PUMAs as the group claims, wouldn’t they be able to muster more than NINE people at a protest in San Francisco? (Hell, I bet I could get more than 9 people to show up to protest an alleged plot by cabal of gerbils from Pluto to take over the DNC.) Wouldn’t Obama be dogged at every campaign stop by thousands of roaring PUMAs?
But that’s not happening. Some money is coming in and there’s some organization behind the scenes. The GOP is good at accomplishing that. The “real” PUMAs are their unwitting dupes.
I’m glad you’re telling the truth about them, though I doubt they’ll listen.
Posted by:Betty Cracker | July 19, 2008 at 02:34 PM
texasherry
good post this morning on aol.
I feel so special my post got mentioned over there.. I’m special lol
#287 Taffy, Thank you for the info. I have learned so much from all of you lovely PUMA’S. I never even touched the computer until this year and I really appreciate all of the help.
#162 jm1673 on 07.19.08 at 1:13 pm, WROTE,
[[ I found this that I’ve never seen before. Can you believe what Michelle says about Hillary here? Unbelievable. I hate these people.
http://www.hellnobama.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc
]]
Oh yeah… that was the First and Last time I ever listened to her. Not only was that comment uncalled for, it was utterly elistist and rude and showed just how vicious she can be. When I saw that aired on national tv, was when I decided against BHO. This woman, is no lady and does not belong in the White House… no way, no how… A short time ago, when he erected that fightsmears web site, all of a sudden her husband wants to protect her by saying he is for women’s rights.
It’s all BS and propoganda.
Talk about being a snob!!!
That WOMAN takes the cake.
TOPIC: Letters to the editor
I’m off to write one now, BB Late tonight, PUMA friends.
TOPIC #2:
I’m in the PNW, & still waiting for specific info on the busses to Colorado. Anybody else getting frustrated?!
Or antsy. yes, I don’t really like making travel arrangements at the last minute but maybe we’ll have to be patient / flexible a while longer.
Originally I was going to fly, but decided it would be easier to connect w/other PUMA’s on a bus.
Anyway, just thinking out loud.
TTFN…
#433 greenfun,
I’m sooooooo jelous you’re all meeting tonight. Booo Hooo I can’t make it (have plans already) but please have a margarita for me! Can’t wait to hear about the party tomorrow. Have fun. Say hello to lifesize Hillary.
HILLARY IN ‘08
There can be no other!
cya later folks…
Sorry folks
Mama puma in me came out
That and I’m really not feeling well and it’s hot in here and there’s a huge rift now between me and my best friend.
^that’s me groaning lol…
It’s so nice to know (even without specific details) that our efforts are being recognized
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy…and democratic
Anyone else starting to have hysterical reactions when they receive messages from *61 followers? It used to bother me, not I find them hilarious. I like to respond with a grammar lesson
Murphy, may I give my address to you to give to Dances?
ugh!
it didnt show the smiley
oh well…believe me: i AM groaning lol
Here’s another 1 cent from me.
Seems like most of the conflict on this site stem from dealing with *61 supporters on other sites. I don’t have the emotional strength to deal with them and keep it together here, so might want to rethink the value of doing the individual battles outside and causing yourself more stress. Has anyone at all changed a *61 supporter on those sites? If not, is it worth it? PUMA may have bigger fish to fry?
#461 veritas09,
Thanks. Which one? LOL
#468 MP – I just went to the site and invited Katrina back and said that you stood up for her.
Hang in there, my friend.
PUMAs, I love you all. I am now off to pick up my cubs from the now evil ex-mother-in-law. I will try to keep my claws to myself.
ROAR
#468 Maryland PUMA on 07.19.08 at 5:23 pm
Sorry folks
Hey silly PUMA, we adore you…no worries. Get some sleep and get well. It’s difficult enough fighting the good fight here, then trying to do it when you are sick.
PUMA hugs.
MP: I understand; I have the same argument with some of my friends who have become BO supporters. It’s not something I can comprehend, but I try not to let it affect the friendship.
Maryland PUMA ~
What we’re doing isn’t personal, it’s political. I’m sorry, but I couldn’t care if you and she were born in the same room at the same time.
Speaking to the very people who have made it their mission to attack you all personally, your friend Katrina called Pumas “cowards” in her 3:28 comment.
Shannon, please, if we can’t work together despite our personal differences, then this is all going to be for nothing.
Step back from your computer for 5 minutes and get some perseptive.
NFIL – your efforts to try to protect MP were well-intentioned, I am sure.
MP and NFIL – (((((hugs))))))
Trish-got it ,hold the onions.
Billie jo-Right on, I am so glad you can make it!!!
Roxy-I have to pace myself, but I will definitely have a margarita in your honor. Salt or no salt?
#424 hills if we get behind bill nelson and help his efforts we may get msm paying attention to us. it’s one of our goals too!
It’s okay, NFIL. Katrina can say what she wants.
Let’s not waste our energy on it PUMAs.
As Ricki would say
GO GO GO
stay safe and well – really must go now. My daughter needs a big mama hug
Murphy in and out but trying to keep up. I doubt anyone who knows how much you do and how can only begin to image how much undeserving flack you get from Obama supporters – would ever blame you for your reaction today. You are a God Sent to this movement and you will be in the history (umm.. I mean Herstory) books for years to come.
I am so glad what we do is being noticed. Pumas are behind you We are not racist or Republican and we will fight them with truth and use their own deceit, inconsistencies and fantasies against them.
Well I loved your comment notfallinginline I thought you were great to all of the 5 people or 4 posting over there.
#148 ladyhawkke on 07.19.08 at 12:55 – I live in Orlando. Was unable to attend today. Thanks DancesWithPumas for the flyers, etc. that I was going to share with them today. I went to help my son take furniture out of their house for a tile installation. Did write the founder and am waiting to see when the next one will be. Will be there and give a report then.
#159 texassherry on 07.19.08 at 1:12 pm Sorry that link did not show anyone close. You can put your name in for being interested in one starting. Hopefully others will see yours and also join and together can start a meetup.
#360 murphy on 07.19.08 at 4:28 pm Thanks Murphy for sharing that. When I worked for government, the rule of thumb was if you got a letter there were at least 100 more people that did not take the time to write. Did not matter if all said the same thing or names on a petition. Made them rethink their position.
Keep up the great work PUMAS!
#468 Maryland PUMA on 07.19.08 at 5:23 pm
It’s cool. I just feel like we have cyber power on our side which means we can stop, step away and reflect before posting. (Much tougher in person, imho).
I think that we should all vow to be a bit more diplomatic… at all cost. We PUMAs are representatives of our movement. All our words and actions will be used against us.
Diplomacy, folks…. diplomacy.
Now… I have an issue.
Can we have a one-stop schedule of all these blogtalk shows popping up? It’s tough to keep track.
Ya know if it wasn’t such a pain in the A$$ to have to register & log in on all those stupid sites – I’d like to ask this? Why the hell are they (the DNC) & others telling us Hillary supporters we need to come to the party – they kicked us out, said they didn’t need us and now they’re pissmoaning & carrying on about fatigue and get over it Hillary lost so boo hoo – screw ‘em – don’t they even know their own rules of the DNC – precious is NOT the nominee – he doesn’t have enough pledged delegates – can’t they count – I know *61 ’s supporters have trouble with English but I guess they have problems with math too – superdelegate endorsements don’t mean a thing – they don’t vote on the first ballot – unless howie is planning to change those rules too & they have the nerve to call themselves Democrats – phooey – more like freaking dictators – *61’s supporters are using all kinds of intimidation against Hillary supporters – particularly blacks – the DNC is using the same kind of tactics against the SD’s – well, here’s hoping that the SDs find their spines, their balls, and their lost ability to stand up and vote as the majority Democratic constituency voted & elect Hillary as the nominee at the convention
- I don’t wanna hear any any more crap from blacks & other *61 supporters about an uprising either (saw this on about 4 different sites – probably the same poster with diff name, don’t care- tired of hearing it), this isn’t some third world country where you can do whatever you want – if you don’t like it here and don’t wanna play by the rules of a democracy then go find yourself someplace where you can & good luck with that – btw – don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out……
Murphy, that “news” is very enticing–can’t you give us a hint, pretty please?
Okay, well it is fabulous to know that someone is shaken and stirred enough to be listening to our efforts. And folks, don’t take the South for granted…BO has big plans down here. The SuperD’s down here need a heads up as well.
Delphine–as I write this it’s about 11:30 PM over in Lyons, so you may already be offline. Can you recommend some news outlets/news websites that would be worthy of our intentions to spread the real truth about BO?
If you’re already gone, bon nuit…
Also, some of you brave souls. Don’t forget about Craigslist.org for making arrangements for travel and meeting up. Don’t forget to browse MeetUp.com to see if other PUMAs are meeting together.
Hi again,
A few of you said you would like to start writing European papers, so I found this website that edits down our list of papers to a select few: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~wessweb/news.html
Now, what countries will BO visit and when? I really don’t want to visit the BO site, so if you already have a link to this info please help me out and post it here. But, if I have to I’ll visit the site.
DelphinefromFrance, if you have e-mails to the French papers you’ve contacted please post those. We should help you contact these people. By the way, thanks for all the work you are doing!
I don’t think we should be timid (maybe not the right word) about contacting Euro papers. Europe seems much smaller and approachable when you are there. As you might imagine they are not bombarded by news from the U.S., so they couldn’t possibly know what is going on with BO’s candidacy. We can start sending them information.
Maybe contacting Euro news media could be a daily prowl.
Be back soon with more info,
Lara08
I personnally could not care less iF Murphy was a republican. I doubt that she is. Giving to the cancer society does not make you a cancer patient.
But if we have to be “manipulated” if it is the new theme by some hidden republican operative and that we are just your usual dupes, well at last that would be quite a con job. So let me recap. fake democrat speaks to the heart of real democrats , republican machine converts millions of Hillary “s supporters to vote MCCain by using decoy puma site to lure candid, stupid, sincere bunch of dupes.
PLEASSSE give me a break
Taffy,
you are so focused and one Puma with a mission!
with my limited time, every time I tune in to get updated (I get my political news from here, no more tv) I see we all sometimes stray here and there, talk about other things, about the news, comments, etc., but you, dear Puma, you are on a roll, always doing this and doing that, always have something in the works!
We’re all great Pumas, one soul, one mission!
RE: ClintonRules
I love the shirt idea !!!
NObama NOvember NOjoke
I LOVE IT
Murphy… OUR action center is beautiful!
Thanks Bill.
Nice clean look. And…
if there is a way to make the text a bit larger…
10 or 11 point would do nicely, if it doesn’t creat spill over.
Lara08 – three European countries France, Germany & Great Britain – middle east – he stopped in Kuwait this morning & is now in Afghanistan – going to Iraq, Israel, Palestine, & I forget where else but I’m sure no Arab countries would print anything from us – not sure Israel needs anything either – don’t think there’s a lotta love there
…he already threw them under the bus …so guess it’s Germany, France & England – but not sure where besides Berlin & I think we were effective there too – no speech at the gate………………..
Puma PAC Action Center is back up. A day after it went down.
http://blog.pumapac.org/puma-pac-action-center/
SO, take a deep breath folks.
We are strong and united and secure.
Dont listen to doubters or haters or creeps. Listen to what your head and your heart has been telling you for the last 6months.
those antipuma sites are TOXIC. They will make you sick. They are not a balanced alternative view to ours. They are hateful and divisive sites, pure and simple.
There are plenty of places to read and learn about the opposing view, where slander and violent rhetoric is not the norm — such as Atrios, TPM sometimes, Taylor Marsh, and others. I’m just saying — it’s a big internet out there. Why waste your time in the swamps?
#473 Texasherry
I meant the volume of posts. LOL
#468 Maryland PUMA
I’m probably going to regret getting in the middle of this, but your friend sounds dogmatic and seems to have been looking for a reason not to like our site. In other words, she sounds like the problem. Set a line in the sand and ask her not to step over it. Before you get mad at me please read my post at #336.
the republican would never support anything like PUMAS, anything that support HILLARY, because who they want to run against is mr guffy
MarylandPUMA,
you have mail
#489 Lara08 on 07.19.08 at 5:35 pm
Great idea.
I think the McCain camp probably sent their Media Packet to news organizations in Europe, but not sure. I think that may be one of the items to be sent to those outlets.
http://onechicken.com/PUMA/TM-LINKS.txt
You can cut and past some of these links from Taylor during the primaries that are just the tip of th iceberg wrt BO and why he’s not suitable to be POTUS.
Many of the Euro blogs and news sites have comment sections just like this, so cutting and pasting what I linked to will start raising doubts.
If he wants to campaign on our tax dollars, then we’ll do what we can to help their media keeping him honest (yeah right lol)
#495 Murphy
“why waste your time in the swamps” exactly. If it too offensive to our cause we should avoid cross contamination. We already know what they think. The goal is just for our opponents and detractors to see us grow.
RE KATRINA
It’s possible that a freakazoid lurker used Katrina’s name, and pasted text from here to the other site… you know, a slimebuckets ways of dividing and conquering.
For my money, I would rather not have to read pasted comments from obot sites… there’s a reason I don’t frequent them.
You gotta love this!
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/obama_leads_bush_by_twenty_but_clinton_does_better_against_mccain
“However, McCain fares better against Obama than he does against two other prominent Democrats. [b]New York Senator Hillary Clinton leads McCain by eight points, 50% to 42%.[/b] Former Vice President Al Gore, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2000, leads McCain 50% to 43%.
These numbers help explain why Election 2008 is competitive even though events so heavily favor the Democrats — because the Republicans are on course to nominate their strongest possible general election candidate but the Democrats are not. Perhaps even more importantly, the data suggests that voters don’t see a potential McCain Administration as the third term of President Bush.
In all five hypothetical match-ups featured in this article, the Democrat leads the Republican among unaffiliated voters. In the match-up between the two presumptive nominees, McCain holds a slight edge over Obama among those voters. “
oops! Forgot to allow spaces in my BOLD…
[b] New York Senator Hillary Clinton leads McCain by eight points, 50% to 42%. [/b]
And it still didn’t take…sheesh!
This message was written so I thought I’d pass it on
oh, before you go Heather- take this little note with you:
Maryland PUMA,
I will take your formal apology whenever you are ready to admit that you wrongfully blamed me. While I wont be holding my breath, I look forward to the day when you can admit to being wrong. I already forgive you, and don’t judge you.. so don’t worry about any kind of turmoil.
Sincerely,
Christina
Posted by:Christina | July 19, 2008 at 05:29 PM
Christina,
I think you have a better chance of seeing Hillary in the White House.
Posted by:pumabot | July 19, 2008 at 05:36 PM
A thought on the DNC losing it over people not uniting, well I love it! They didn’t believe you would keep your word and not support Bo, they didn’t believe you would stand your ground, they thought it would just take a little time to mend fences, yet they did nothing to win the 18 million voters back, not even an apology for how Hillary and her supporters were treated.
They know now they’re not getting the numbers they need and I’m laughing my a$$ off. But mostly I’m very proud of every person who is fighting in one way or another to be treated with respect and dignity by those who claim to want what is best for America.
Stand tall and proudly shout “My vote will make a difference”
slyt2 – funny “the 4 or 5 people” posting over there
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We have to choose our battles, PUMAs. Wasting energy on pigs may be sport–cats do like to play with their prey before they kill, but….what is that passage ?? “Do not cast pearls before swine.” Some are simply not worth your intelligence.
A professor once cautioned me in my one of my teacher courses, “If you argue with the kids, you’ve gone down to their level. You become like two pigs in the mudpen.”
We have a mission. We are noticed. They are fighting us. That’s a good thing.
505 Steve_in_KC
, not [ parenthessisisses ]
ugh lol
steve carats not parenthessisisses
Geez, these pasted posts from the obots are like pigeon droppings on steroids.
Gonna take off for awhile and work on the database, all this discussion about MarylandPUMAs ‘friend’ is not healthy.
See you in a short time Greenfun!
Lara08 – Thanks so much for the link. It’s a starting place.
#495 murphy
Wow, very nice Action Centre, thanks Bill you did a great job. I love how organized it is, well done!
Only 1 day to rebuild it, that’s what this is all about, doing and not just talking.
Thanks to Murphy for acting so fast on the action center. I just made sure we had everything so Murphy could get the center going again. I feel the action center is critical to our mission and making sure we keep focused on the goals of PUMA PAC. That being in part getting Hillary nominated.
Time is very short we have about 5 weeks till the convention and every person and every minute is critical. Writing to super delegates and the media is a critical part of the mission as well getting more people to join PUMA PAC through the use of the flyers and other action items. Personally I try to avoid things that take away from the above goals as my time is so limited. In either case I am glad I could help Murphy and all the PUMA’s out in some way.
393 slyt2
Happy Birthday
“with friends like that who needs enemies”
512 Billiejoe
#495 murphy just checked it out looks really good. Got lots of printing to do… #516 alohapuma Thank you
Steve in KC
Holy Smokes!
That’s amazing.
Wonder if a “Draft Gore” campaign will blow up on the internet tonight.
i knew we were right. i knew it!
Maryland,
I hope you and your friend work things out, best friends are very rare and special, I’ll keep you both in my thoughts.
Murphy, I sent an email, just asking for permission
#463 scath yw..i’m learning new things too!
MarylandPUMA, in taking a step back and acting as if today was my first time on; I can see where Katrina may have been offended. You hear all these wonderful things about PUMAS but we have been here through the thick and thin. We know who is who and why they say what they do but someone new does not.
I apologize that I did not write earlier and say something to her. As you know MarylandPUMA, we all have the same vision and heart. We all recognize something very wrong happened in the primaries and it needs to be corrected.
We are united as PUMAS to see Democracy returned to our great nation and the wrongs righted. Together we have accomplished much and will continue to do so.
Along the way, we will have disagreements with family and friends but as you and I know MarylandPUMA, our friends will always be our friends and our family will always be our family.
Today, my son who is a strong union Democrat starting to talk voting Democrat no matter what…I looked at him, smiled and said, “Here let me carry that out for you.” No good would of come out of trying to debate one when God has not opened their ears and eyes yet.
At the end of the day, we hugged and said “I love you” and I sent up my prayers for him and others that believe the same to hear and see the truth. I know God answers prayers. Look at all of us united. Did we not ask, “Where are others that believe like me and together we can make a difference?”
Love to all PUMAS!! Murphy, maybe it is time to replay the video on what Hillary endured to remind us to stay focused as a new week starts with New Growls. Thank you for getting the action center back up and running! See how we work together!
MarylandPUMA give her a PUMA hug from all of us!
521 tree
Thank you for your willingness and for taking care of this detail.
I will send as soon as I receive them. I think it takes a few weeks for delivery.
christina: my grandma had a good come back for people like christina; she would say’ I won’t dignify that comment with a answer’.
Another good description for her would be You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear!
THANKS MURPHY FOR WORKING SO HARD ON THE ACTION CENTER. #515-Bill-k thanks to you and everyone else that have also worked so hard.
Clinton / Gore
I could live with that.
woot! woot!
(woot? woot? Karma. I’m morphing into an adolescent male)
Well Dances its my pleasure considering what your doing for me, still havent stopped crying lolol, but I’ll get it under control soon
528 tree
“silly puma”, c. Murphy
#506 I think someone should tell Christina they would like to amend the comment about we would have more luck seeing Hillary in the White House then for her to apologize to We would have more luck seeing a DEMOCRAT in the White House
#225 DelphinefromFrance – THANK you so much for all your support and what you are doing for us here in the US – is it possible to give the names of some of the papers that you have sent your posts so that we can also do that here – the more the merrier they always say – AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH>
Dances I cant help it I’m a Cancer lolol, we are an emotional lot, I did let Murphy know that she has an email
A perception of Puma from an unexpected source:
I thought this was an interesting comment posted on Tom Abrahams’ article “P.U.M.A. Passion” yesterday and I hope it won’t offend anyone by reposting it here.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html#comment-122905746
From Obama’s site blog July 15th
By Jeffrey from Highland, CA 29 minutes ago
In case you missed it…
I decided to open an account with PUMA to see if what everyone was saying about them was true. I signed in as a Hillary supporter and made some probing remarks. The PUMA People were supportive of not using any racial comments and seemed fair about being unfairly critical of Obama. There were viewpoints I disagreed with, but nothing on the deep end. I did not stay too long before going to bed.
When I woke up the next day, they had tracked down my dashboard and left a message on one of my blogs to say that I had been “PUMA Pounced” – appearantly, they used my email address to track down my info here and then trash me on their page. They thought I was a paid Obama operative, because my name had 233 at the end (which is a classroom number I once taught in) They made the normal snarky comments one would make about a troll and moved on. Given that I did present myself falsely, I understood their concerns and reactions – I also think how we react when we have McCain’s people in here.
First, I give them credit for being able to track down my information so quickly – it shows that they are well-organized and vigilant about Hillary Clinton’s support. Second, most bloggers seemed more determined to support Hillary than eventually vote for McCain over Obama – for me, that would be the ultimate betrayal. Third, I see a lot of ourselves in them, with the notable exception that the sting of Hillary’s defeat still has them determined what they perceive (right or wrong) to fight for a just cause. Finally, like a good spy movie, they have people that come over here too:)
To any PUMA person reading this here, if you read my messages, you will see there was no divisiveness or malice on my part that was intended. To me, that game does not belong in the Obama campaign, and is reflective of the Republican tactics. What I did want to know is if your intentions and actions represent what is still best about the Democratic or what is worst about the Republicans. Thus far, I concluded that in spite of your initial reaction to my perceived intent, your heart is in the right place.
Posted by: wontsitdown | July 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
DancesWithPumas… thanks! My first instinct was html, but so many forums use what I call brackets, you call parentheses… or some variation thereof.
New York Senator Hillary Clinton leads McCain by eight points, 50% to 42%.
#491 thanks bruce55555 just think it’s a golden opportunity now rather than trying to find somene to listen later.
bill nelson is trying to find someone to listen to him now
Steve_in_KC:
To create bold text, you are on the right track, however replace the brackets (“[" and "]“) with the sideways “V” characters which are on top of the comma and the period… then it will work!
So, you had the right code tags, except:
for bold it’s:
[b]bold text[/b] but replace the brackets “[" and "]” with the sideways “V” characters on top of the comma and the period (first the sideways “V” that points left and then the one pointing right)… (If I type them here they will dissapear when I submit, so I have to explain.)
For italics it’s:
[i]italics text[/i] but replace the brackets with the two sideways “V’s” on top of the comma and the period.
#532 tree
Dances I cant help it I’m a Cancer lolol, we are an emotional lot, I did let Murphy know that she has an email
No rush. As I said, it’ll take a few weeks for them to arrive here. I hope it fits! I don’t know what size you are and I ordered Large.
Also, I’m a Gemini, but I was born on the cusp, and , Moon and several planets are in Cancer in their native (correct term escapes me at the moment) house.
#230 PUMARESPONDERS – Hopefully delphinefromfrance will get that information for you to post – it definitely will be a good thing – especially if we do it while he is THERE – that frustrates him when he is advised of blogs when he is in that location -
This is a good article but this part I thought was the most interesting… One major reason why Obama’s opponent, John McCain, has managed so far to rise above the public’s grim assessment of the Republican Party is that, for many voters, he has already passed this test. Even though Americans think by a two-to-one margin Obama would do more to improve the country’s image abroad than McCain, according to the new Washington Post-ABC News survey, only 48 percent said the Democrat would make a good commander in chief compared to 72 percent for his Republican rival. And “head to head, McCain was judged as the one with greater knowledge of the world by more than 2 to 1,” the Post reported.
#489 Lara Thank you so much for all that contact info regarding European Newspapers. It was taking me quite a bit of time to find out who to contact where.
You simplified my life.
T love that idea for a T-shirt:
Nobama
November
Nojoke
Landipuma…
how does one creats a strike, strike through?
murphy on 07.19.08 at 3:49 pm
Murphy I am with you on calling out that person like that. She used tactics of intimidation against you. The way I see it, you were calling it like it is. The electronic black shirt scheiz is out of control.
I love that idea for a T-shirt:
NObama
November
NoJoke
I like this idea too. I’d probably wait to see if Obama gets the nomination first though.
Someone posted this site that lists European news sites and blogs.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~wessweb/news.html
We don’t know where the EuroBO tour will actually go, but it’s in our best interest to send those news media outlets and sites information wrt to BO. Hopefully our efforts will encourage the Euro media to ask tough questions.
http://onechicken.com/PUMA/TM-LINKS.txt
Of course, many of those sites have comment sections like this. Cut and Paste the above links there and spread the truth. (Yes, it’s TMs ‘good’ reporting during the primaries which is just the tip of the iceberg wrt why BO is not suitable for POTUS).
Now the McCain campain has that wonderful Press Packet. I assume they’ve sent it, but it wouldn’t hurt to sent it across seas.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/mccain_campaigns_parting_gift.php
It would be great to get PUMA coverage in Europe.
Large is perfect Dances, thank you
As my doctor told me, I’m suffering from a type of famine so I look like I’m pregnant lol, so large is great, and again thank you so much
You know guys – sometimes people like CHRISTINA makes these comments to get everyone in a fury and lose their perspective and direction of their goals – and the more it is brought up over and over and over again – she WINS – not us – she is the one that gets the attention and takes away from those that have and need help on Puma projects right now.
If everyone here would just volunteer to help Trish look up just three or four superdelegates that we can not find information on easily and throw Christina under the bus – we could get this major major big big project completed and on its way to giving Hillary the nomination – how many volunteers do I see – let me count you – and everyone that brings up Christina I will give you three names to look up – Fair???
I personally have 30 of them that I am trying to locate and will be more than happy to share my lot with anyone.
“It would be great to get PUMA coverage in Europe.”
Tomorrow, our Sunday, is Europe’s Monday… a business day. Maybe we could write to their newspaper editors tomorrow? English should not be a problem.
BillK – Thanks for the recovery of our Action Site. Just went there and printed off some business cards that I’ve been wanting. Muchas gracias!
468 (((((((((((Maryland Puma))))))))))))))
#547 Goalucard4Hill on 07.19.08 at 6:27 pm Send me the list via gmail with same name. I will be leaving in a little bit to work 24 hours but will work on the list when I get back tomorrow night.
533 Your northern neighbor
Interesting post from mathman. It contrasts with the tone and content of some of his previous blogging on the Obama site. We’ll see if “making nice” is a new strategy in general or just the opinion of mathman.
Taffy,
you are absolutely right.
I can help, just let me know.
Y’all – I checked out the link provided by Lara08 for European websites/newspapers, and it is a great connective site for those who are interested in speaking to the European people regarding our feelings about BO’s status and tour over there.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~wessweb/news.html
#546 Goalucard4Hill I can help not doing anything else important today
I just revised the Obama press packet if anyone wants a copy (small graphic) give me a holla at gee male
“Now the McCain campaign has that wonderful Press Packet. I assume they’ve sent it, but it wouldn’t hurt to sent it across seas.”
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/mccain_campaigns_parting_gift.php
It would be great to get PUMA coverage in Europe
Thank you Bill K – now thats what I am talking about.
#551NoMoreInFl – THANK you so much – Trish are you reading this – you have volunteer #13 now – can you send a list for NoMoreinFl – - if we get enough volunteers and get you an assistant – MAYBE – we can have this project finished by the end of this upcoming week -
#551NoMoreInFl
Please e-mail me at prowlngrowl @ gmail . com
Steve_in_KC and DancesWithPumas
OOps… The posting here goes so fast that while I’m explaining something someone else has beat me to it!
But maybe my more detailed explanation can help anyone who is still confused about how to make text bold and italics in here.
As for the other formatting styles, such as strikethrough, bulleted lists and underline… I’ve tried the usual codes for some of them (using the carrots) and they haven’t worked in here. I know some other people have said it hasn’t worked for them either. However I’ve seen some people use bullets, strikethrough, etc succesfully in here…
Maybe, if any of them are around now, they can explain how they do it!
#555 slyt2
Please e-mail me at prowlngrowl @ gmail . com
Eurotime – approximately 7-8 hours ahead of us (I know, because I have to coordinate that when calling my daughter). So……time is of the essence if BO will there in the next few days.
Listening to Bowie on the headphones right now—”Let’s Dance….”
Let’s Pounce.
Put on our CatClaws and Prance away the blues…
Let’s sway
under the moonlight….some serious moonlight….
#543 Dances
I agree on the t-shirt (for the life of me I can’t remember who just posted it — either Marc4Hill or the person’s blog he was using) but I would like the FIRST tshirt to say:
Nobama
NODenver
Nojoke!
Then, we may not need this t-shirt!! We could say
Ha Ha Ha Hee Hee Hee Nobama, you LOST!!!
SLYT2 – THANK YOU SO MUCH – YOU ARE FANTASTIC – Volunteer # 14 – Don’t know if Trish is on line or not – but I will give you three of mine as follows – she can send me some more when she gets back – at least it will give us a headstart -
These are all very difficult to find fax numbers on – they are HIS supporters and very slippery to get anything – what I have been doing is googling – the persons name – the State Democratic Party – anything that you can link together and find a fax -
Josie Johnson – Minnesota
Joyce Cusack – Florida
Joyce Lalonde – Michigan – sometimes you can find where they work even – although having 2000 faxes going into a law office is not a really good thing –
THANKS AGAIN – Trish – not trying to take your project away right now – but grabbing who I can for the time being -hope that is ok – and you don’t fire me – or at least don’t fire me until I get the other 27 information
OOPS – Sorry Trish – I thought you were out riding your bike and wanted to get those on board – will mind my own business and Sly2 – I will take those three back -
#563 Goalucard4Hill
Hey, its our project, not just mine, I’m happy for volunteers no matter how we get them. lol and I can’t fire you, I need you for part 2!
DancesWithPumas – thanks for the packet link. Very helpful
#560 TrishfromCanada You should have mail…
#564 Goalucard4Hill
It started to rain so I opted for a short jog instead, didn’t want that skunk mark up my back from the bike tires.
Dont forget — tonight the first installment of Puma PAC on the radio —
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
Call in line:
Date / Time: 7/19/2008 9:00 PM eastern
Category: Politics
Call-in Number: (347) 677-0792
Dont forget to call!
All the descent on here today it would appear that the obamabots have accomplished what they set out to do. Please let all the puma’s get beyond this , stay off the ‘bad’ site’s stop fueling the fire and it will die. Let’s get back to our good site and get Hillary elected !
tree.. are you still here. I am certain that you do not recognize my name.. I mostly read and do not post very often. But I was catching up on postings from lastnight and I saw that you stated you are disabled. Can you tell me what state you live in? Have you ever contacted your 2-1-1 in your area? If you are in need of prescription help, the Area Agency on Aging or the 2-1-1 can connect you with a Medication Assistance Program. They should be able to help you with meds.
#567 slyt2
you have mail, thank you very much for volunteering.
Trish you have mail! Off to work…see all of you tomorrow night!
Great Energy, Great PUMAS, Great Accomplishments!
The Best to All PUMAS
Now & Always!
wooing INDEPENDENTS
Recent polls show Independents moving away from BO. Independents are more mentally flexible than Reps or Dems who feel more loyalty to their Party’s nominee.
Many Hillary supporters are Independents and many may have moved to BO when she pulled out and may now be reconsidering. So this is a good group for PUMAs to woo!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Among registered voters, 25% are Independents, 32% Republicans and 42% Democrats (as of 2004).
#561 Lin4Hill on 07.19.08 at 6:45 pm
Excellent!!!
Can your daughter give us some information?
1. List of MSM
2. Popular Blogs and sites, especially, political blogs.
3. What the coverage is like.
4. Any indication as to general area that BO will arrive.
4 will help target the local news for that area.
Thanks.
I went to visit the Action Center. It’s back and great.Is it true that Bill K did that for us. Thank-you for helping us get up and running again so fast.
bmw60 on 07.19.08 at 4:37 pm
#347… LADYHAWKE…
And when you send them the letter, be sure to ask them what the he** http://www.2008unity.org is all about. How can we unite when they separate? The event is coming up July 23-27 in CHICAGO!! Anyway, it’s not only black, it’s Asian, Native American, etc., but why now, a convention with journalists of color? I hope all these Obambi nuts will disappear and leave us alone once either Hillary or McCain wins.
Steve….great job
Cosmeta…thank you for having the foresight to save things. I printed them out but only have a couple saved
Goal…Delphine has a line under her name so if you click it takes you to her French blog. This illiterate , bitter, now guntoting old white woman can’t read French but maybe somebody more “elite” (
) can see if she links any of her letters to the editors
#574 LandiPUMA on 07.19.08 at 6:56 pm
Excellent post. Do you have a link?
Thank you Native Girl, I will check that out as well, so now I have 3 contacts, thank you all
Oh Calif, Native Girl
Someone should burn our Action Center files to CD…
redundant archiving for security purposes.
IndyPUMA…us Independents are smart PUMAS! Already here and have talked to many others along with friends that are Democrats and Republicans.
If elections were held today…Hillary in a landslide!
#560 TrishfromCanada
Anyway we can all work on finishing one state at a time so at least some letters can start going out with Murphy’s help. Every list I get has delegates from all different states. Having one state at a time would be faster since many of them are probably on the democratic website for that state.
#582 DancesWithPumas on 07.19.08 at 7:00 pm
Additionally, it would be nice if we can select the most effective materials to burn on cd to distribute across the world.
HoDean’s 2004 Campaign did something similar and it was somewhat affective.
#348 TrishfromCanada
Don’t know if anyone else addressed this higher up in the thread, but in re: Your suggestion of a 750 character limit per posting.
My worry is that it would limit the posting of articles that don’t have links, i.e. some newspaper articles that people has retyped to insert here, letters people have sent and longer lists of information, i.e. addresses, tel #’s, fax # etc.
My suggestion:
Perhaps longer postings should have a summary at the top describing what the posting covers and have the summary clearly marked off from the rest of the content by a line, dotted, solid, whatever….
That way people would know what’s contained in the posting and decide if they want to read the whole thing right then and there, or come back to it later if they’re interested.
Just my 1 cent worth…
I vote that we work on Fla and Michigan first, since we will probably get more support there.
TrishfromCanada
Email Alert!! Email Alert!!!
#568
“have” retyped, not “has” retyped…. hit submit before proofreading – again!
Thanks TAFFY – I will go have a looksee – been about 60 years since I studied French in school – l’ecole.
Au Revoir – and thats the extent of it
)
Call-in Number: (347) 677-0792
Dont forget to call!
I can see us now:
-Murphy? This is xyzPuma. Could you forward the letterhead from the Action Center to me?
-murphy? What does “Take it Upstairs mean?”
-murphy? will you be my mommy? please, thank you”
I’m just kidding… but, you know how we are (or can be). LOL
For those of you who have asked, here is a list of the French media I have contacted : (newspapers ; televisions ; radios)
http://www.lefigaro.fr/
http://www.lemonde.fr/
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/
http://www.humanité.fr/
http://www.rue89.com/
http://www.liberation.fr/
http://www.leparisien.fr/home/actualites-informations-direct-videos-parisien.htm
http://www.marianne2.fr/
http://www.lepoint.fr/
http://www.lexpress.fr/
http://www.ouest-france.fr/
http://www.tf1.fr/
http://www.francetelevisions.fr/
http://www.itele.fr/
http://www.bfmtv.fr/
http://www.radiofrance.fr/
http://www.rtl.fr/
http://www.europe1.fr/
http://www.rmc.fr/
Here is a copy of what I have written :
“La semaine prochaine, le candidat Démocrate à la présidence des Etats-Unis, Barack Obama, va effectuer une tournée au Proche-Orient et en Europe, et sera reçu vendredi par le président Sarkozy.
Vous allez certainement couvrir l’événement en détails.
Je pense que vous devriez à cette occasion, vous intéresser d’un peu plus près au mouvement anti-Obama qui se met en place aux EU depuis quelques semaines, notamment par l’intermédiaire d’Internet, et qui est en train de prendre une ampleur étonnante.
Sont à l’origine de ce mouvement d’anciens supporters de Hillary Clinton déçus, qui ont bien l’intention de se faire entendre lors de la Convention de Denver à la fin du mois d’août, et de demander à ce que les délégués pro-Hillary puissent voter pour elle lors de cette Convention. Ils estiment que le Parti Démocrate a fait le mauvais choix, qui plus est d’une manière injuste et non démocratique, et que certains délégués pourraient se raviser et décider finalement de la choisir. En tout cas, ils réclament une Convention ouverte et démocratique, où chacun puisse voter en son âme et conscience, et non un simple couronnement.
Je pense que nous ne sommes pas suffisamment informés en France de ce qui se passe actuellement là-bas, et que le voyage de Obama a avant tout pour but de rassurer tous les Américains, très nombreux encore, qui doutent beaucoup de lui, et notamment de ses compétences en matière de politique étrangère.
Il serait utile je crois, que vous vous puissiez vous renseigner un peu sur ces mouvements de terrain (je vous suggère de consulter notamment des sites comme PUMA PAC ou THE DENVER GROUP) afin d’informer vos lecteurs / téléspectateurs / auditeurs de manière objective, en évitant la promotion excessive d’un candidat qui est loin de faire l’unanimité dans son propre pays, et encore moins dans son propre camp Démocrate.
Merci par avance.
Cordialement.”
Of course, if some of you decide to write to them, you can do it in English : I know the French are not reputed to be very good at languages, but those people are supposed to understand !
570 Pookie
I second that. Someone go spray it. LOL!
#585 IndyPuma
I’m in.
Want to work on that project together?
Gather the best, burn and distribute? Creat a press packet (sans faux presidention seal) and send?
# 582 DancesWithPumas
I can remember when burning files meant something so much different in the olden days. We certainly wouldn’t want to do that with them though would we?
great.. California has 2-1-1’s.. they are not state funded, but they do exist. If you have one in your area, you just dial 2-1-1 and tell the agent what you are in need of. They will find the organization that can help you with anything that you need. The link below is a map of 2-1-1’s in California.
http://www.cairs.org/211/docs/RollOutMap0802.pdf
The next link will give you the 2-1-1 agency information for each county.
http://www.cairs.org/agency.htm
I hope this helps. If you need to you can contact me at my email… Murphy should have it from my registration information. If not, let me know.
#402 COSMETA I posted that he was going into the jails a couple of weeks ago, It was all over the news, he must really be desperate for voters to counteract the pro-Hillary people. I’m very concerned about the election and the huge potential for fraud.
Holy! 15 volunteers working on this database now, yeaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh PUMA’s you all rock.
#582 StarDust
I remember too. And, know, we would not want to see our work go up in flames.
GoAnderson you have mail, thank you for being #15
goal….scath gave us this link for papers publishaletter.com It’s great!!!!! links you in seconds with papers in foreign countries. Just select, type, and send. bold text should be in our action center!
that didn’t work but you guys get the point
sorry.. my last post was for tree!!
#422 GREEFUN I’m envious, wish I could be celebrating. Nothing happening here.
Meant #433 GREENFUN
Hello Pumas
I’ve been reading your posts. Goalucard is right, we need to pick our battles. If anyone listened to the radio show last night about Rezko and *61, it contained a wealth of information about the corruption in Chicago politics. I was taking notes because I’m planning to write to the media outlets.
The speakers referenced the Boston Globe’s expose of the Rezko and *61 connection. Basically, *61 was directing public funds to developers such as Rezko and others to help renovate low income housing. However, what was happening, once they got their hands on this money, it was used for other purposes including funneling donations back in *61’s campaign and other politicians.
In additon, funds from the Illinois Pension Fund has been directed to *61’s backers to manage. In one case, Ariel Capital, the contract was revoked because they were not investing the funds wisely. Why is Ariel Capital important? Because the man that heads Ariel is one of *61’s bundlers.
One more thing, Michele’s brother is also a bundler.
I’m off to work on my assignments for Trish and others and will be back.
The key to defeating *61 is to follow his money.
599 TrishFromCanada
I don’t like that number. Can I have a different one?
and where is the picture of that really long thing?
#591 DancesWithPumas
LOL I’m amazed to find myself feeling the same way about Murphy and I’m not usually a follower.
606 EWard
file:///Users/denise/Desktop/RESKO%20Final%20Chapter%20-%20Curtain%20Time%20for%20Barack%20Obama.webarchive
Goaluacard4hill – jeez I was gonna try & find phone # A& address for Josie Johnson in MN – obama supporter – clicked on his website & clicked on MN – OMG – there is a button called euwwww – Obama Everywhere – not sure I can do this for you but will try……………….icky icky icky ……………………..
I have a question in writing it may look different than ment so be with me ok.I was looking at this unity (like his church)journalist thing in Chicago. Are we seeing a new country like it says? If you unite these minorities whites are than minorities like that bad guy was spouting??I am not biased or racist but I think he has something he is trying to develope to take over this country.Sorry and I dont mean it offensively but defensively
#592 delphinefromfrance
Great letter!
Trish: There’s a Part Two??
Re: help with paying for prescription drugs
#596 Nativegirl
Great info to pass to Tree. I just wanted to add a bit more, if that is okay?
Tree
Also, most, if not all, pharmaceutical companies will help cover your prescriptions if you qualify. I think it is based on either your income or ability to pay, etc. Just look on your bottle and see who makes it and give them a call. Can find the info about each company on the internet.
Good Luck!!
NativeGirl, thank you for the info but I’m not listed, but its ok I still have the other two I got last night, I want to thank you for taking the time to help me
All you Pumas are a wonderful family to me
Ok, just when I thought the tears were done lolol
TREEPUMA
#436 FL GIRL Right on! This deserves a huge Puma growl and 500 letters to his mail box and/or fax. Does anyone have this info? Also, regarding the Prowl that we do from the Action Center, now that we have all these trolls, I’m wondering if Murphy needs to mass e-mail us the Daily Prowl. Or do we just put up with them? We all know the trolls really didn’t leave, they are lurking in the background in their “black holes.”
I don’t post much but I just want to say that I stand by murphy and all the puma members. Keep up the good work and don’t let insignificant distractions slow you guys down.
606 EWard
http://www.scoop.co.nz/archive/scoop/index.html
#550 GoAndersen
How’d you know I really really really needed that?
Thanks.
I’m signing off for the night and taking some time to heal.
579 IndyPUMA:
The Wikipedia page on the Democratic Party has the statistics I used for the different groups (Dems, Reps, Independents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)
Has anyone read this yet?
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/19/pumapac-strikes-back-stupid-piece-of/
617 NYModerate
Hello! Thank you!
619 Maryland
You are my ((((((((((paw bud)))))))))), that’s how.
Night. Sweet Ones!
#468 MARYLAND PUMA, Your best friend has a foul mouth for all the web to read. That is just nasty and she has betrayed you to boot.
thank you Diva2, will also check on that as well, wow, you guys are too much
#594 DancesWithPumas on 07.19.08 at 7:07 pm
I can see if I can offer guidance and help. I’m brainstorming on a couple of other projects that I may send to murphy and/or will bower. (others too).
I’m also going to spend today and tomorrow trying to alert Europe on talking points about BO on his EuroBo tour.
The following post:
#564-goalucard – I found her –
She is a state director for the DFL which is Dem party in Minnesota – no fax number for her but did get an email address: johns002@umn.edu which tells me she works in the education department at the University of MN – I can probably find a fax # but U is big & I’m sure there are several education depts there & several fax numbers………………will let you know
#553 bruce 55555 thanks…can’t do anything until monday when i could contact his office and see what kind of support he needs and how to get a copy of his plan. should be on web but may be changed from that
I just went to Delphine’s website. It’s fabulous! You gotta take a look at it! She’s even got a link to us! LOL. The Denver Groups ad and the New Yorker cover on her page!
http://hillary.meilleur.choix.qu-obama.over-blog.com/
Translation: “Hillary. Better. Choice. Than. Obama”……
One smart lady.
Dont forget — tonight the first installment of Puma PAC on the radio —
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
Call in line:
Date / Time: 7/19/2008 9:00 PM eastern
Category: Politics
Call-in Number: (347) 677-0792
Dont forget to call!
#620 LandiPUMA on 07.19.08 at 7:24 pm
Thanks. That is good info.
#647 Susie1945
I have a friend whose husband is a researcher at U Minn…
I’ll email and ask.
#592 DELPHINEFROMFRANCE – MERCI BEAUCOUP – that is absolutely fantastic – thank you thank you -
#230 PUMARESPONDER – - please pick up #592 posted information for all to share -
#606 – EWard – I would really love to see your notes on that one – I do believe that between that and the birth certificate something is going to break Good Job
#610Susie1945 – THank you for helping – see what I mean – I posted that a day or so ago that I wanted to puke everytime I saw his picture on every page – ugh
Gee I feel like Murphy with all the post numbers up above.
#592 DELPHINEfromFRANCE Thank you for sending all those letters. Knowing some Italian, I was able to understand parts of the letter. Great work.
Susie1945
Just sent the email, will report back when I receive a reply.
My friend was a PUMA and didn’t know it until she read email signature of my “real” email address!
#621 shasta2001 on 07.19.08 at 7:25 pm
That’s not the publicity we need.
Diplomacy Diplomacy Diplomacy.
Bite your tongues, PUMAs. Did I mention Diplomacy?
I don’t know why when I put the Wikipedia link before, it truncated it and it doesn’t take you to the complete Democratic Party page where I got the statistics. So I’ll try again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)
If, when you click on this link it doesn’t take you to the complete “Democratic Party” page, copy the whole link making sure you include “(United_States)” at the end.
I’m sure there are also other web pages with that data:
[Among registered voters, 25% are Independents, 32% Republicans and 42% Democrats (as of '04).]
#627 SUSIE1945 – WAY TO GO – you get the sleuth award for the day – SEE HOW MUCH FUN and EXCITING it can be when you find one of those difficult elusive ones – and everyone is getting involved in it on this blog – so much more positive energy and results coming out that can only further our cause – so proud of you pumacans.
#618 goandersen
Thanks for the tip to the archives link!
The MSM is really trying to play up Maliki’s statement about the troop withdrawal and how it favors *61’s policy. It is even on his website.
We cannot lose sight of the fact that there are many good papers from the Boston Globe and the Chicago papers that are doing investigative work about *61. He is up to his ears in kickbacks, funneling public money, and favors for his friends.
I believe that’s why many financial firms are backing him. President Nixon and *61 are a lot alike. Nixon won by a landside but he had to leave office because of the lies and dirty tricks. We cannot get caught up in the media’s hype.
Talk to you later!
#633 Goalucard4Hil I understand there are investigators trying to unravel the mystery of BO’s birth certificate and prove it to be a fraud. They are in Kenya, everywhere. And I called the US Atty’s office a couple of weeks ago and asked when Obama was going to be indicted. Of course, they wouldn’t say anything but that could be an October surprise.
Time for me to go rest, I’ll try to be back later
I’m signing off for today, All of my wonderful PUMA family have a great evening and stay safe.
621 shasta2001
This morning when folks were bringing back toxic waste obot comments, Murphy encouraged us to visit worthwhile blogs and not waste our time in the swamps.
Several others agreed that it was not helpful / productive to PUMApac bloggers to cut and paste the junk from the obots and contaminate this site.
#640
are you serious???????
I never heard so much cames & goes @ a bc
I just went to Delphine’s website, it is awesome. I am so impressed and we’ve gone International!
Have you all seen the letter ( email) to Hillary doners from 2 members of the DNC on huffington post?
I am madder than hell. I left them a message and it
was not nice.
#640Ladyhawkke – thank you – I just wish it could happen before the Democratic Convention instead of October —
I’m signing off for good this time, I think. As I said, I’m addicted but I have to go. Will catch up with you tomorrow. Sweet dreams, my fellow PUMAs.
The Just Say No Deal has a very nice calendar of events. It is very nice to be able to quickly locate what is going on and they do have Murphy’s radio program listed for today’s event.
http://www.my.calendars.net/jsnd
Later ladyhawkke – see you tomorrow – I have to take some puma cubs to dinner – but will be back tonight.
Copy the link (minus the period at the beginning and at the end) and paste on the address bar of your web browser and hit Enter:
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States).
It has some good info on the Dem Party, etc.
Thanks for the award – let me know if there is anything else you need – I worked in MN State Gov for 20 years so got pretty much involved with Dems & the party – course we have a Repub gov now – another norm coleman type – was born & raised in So St Paul -heavy, heavy dem area & became a republican – Tim Pawlenty – he’s a big McCain supporter – got in trouble here for being gone so much helping McCain – was being discussed as possible vp but OMG hope he doesn’t get it cuz his lt gov is worse – she (god help us a woman) was also appointed by timmy as the head of the MN Dept of Transp & she was on duty when the 35W bridge went down almost a year ago – 8/1/08 – afraid if she became gov – I’d have to leave the state –
– don’t know what happens to these women – get some power & their heads start turning around…………………
How typical for a man to want to pit two women together to fight it out. Why are they so interested in Kat fights. Tommy Christopher, who wrote the articles in some obscure feature about ANTI-puma, is the creator of “The Jung Jurks”, a “guerilla talk show on the Youtube”. http://www.youtube.com/homertojeebus.
He seems to be getting off on creating tension between Murphy and anti-puma girl.
Don’t even engage in it, Murphy. He is the real weasel.
Next he will want a wet t-shirt contest between both of you or mud wrestling.
What a pee-on he is.
#592 delphine …..uh and what would I be saying????????:D
I’m going to ask you all to please drop it.
You don’t know her and truly can’t judge her. Really. She is the sweetest person I know and has a heart of gold. She’s protective of me, just like you all are, and I think the protectiveness collided somewhere in the middle.
Remember that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover and things are not always as they seem or appear. Believe it or not some people I despised at first became very good friends of mine in the long run. She really is my bestest friend in the world and I hope we can get past this. One never knows what tomorrow will bring, if it comes at all. Nothing in life is a given.
Thank you all for looking out for me.
HI.. good evening fellow PUMAs Well, I don’t know if you know, but we have another one under the bus to add to the long list:
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-bus-rolls-over-disabled-american.html
And on that sweet note, let’s take it upstairs!
Lou Dobbs just said Obama’s young supporters have dropped off by 1/3 recently. The close polls between Obama and McCain is from their voters not supporting either candidate. The lesser candidates are running.
The fastest growing party are the independents!
Gotta go to the meeting at GreenFun’s.
656 Maryland PUMA
Me thinks the Full Moon is still effecting the cats.
I agree with you.
Let’s drop it and not drag it into the next century.
Be well (((((((((paw bud)))))))))))
Delphine
Lovely site and full of good information. With my high school french, I was even able to read some of it.
Top Dem Party Officials Send Sharply-Worded Email Demanding That Hillary Donors And Supporters Get Behind Obama
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/top_democratic_official_sends.php
Marylandpuma,
I understand completely. I am sorry you had to go through this and hope tomorrow will be better for you.
#656 Maryland PUMA
{{{{Maryland}}}}
I truly hope you two can work it out also. It can be very easy to misjudge things with only a snapshot view. Tensions can run high when it comes to politics, religion, etc., but true friendship is invaluable. It is a sign of your true depth and character that reacted the way you did. I hope you and the cub are feeling a bit better this evening and that the temperature in your neck of the woods is cooling down.
#659 BillieJo
“Fastest growing party are the Independents”…..
That’s music to my ears.
)
#526 indy the great site scath came up with for foreign papers is publishaletter.com check it out!
sorry #626 indy check out publishaletter.com
Feb 9, 2006 … Location: Josie R. Johnson Community Forum Tubman Family Alliance …. Saint Cloud, MN 56304 (360) 251-4357 (360) 251-4670 (fax) …
#647 goal….there is a section in the dem rules which talks about how to replace the nominee in the event of death, RESIGNATION, or disability of the nominee after the convention
Is anyone watching FOX right now? Hannity is hammering Obama in a report on his flip flops
Wow, I totally missed this because I left early this morning for the Cincinnati Meetup. I just got back this afternoon, after four hours of driving and a two hour visit. It was a blast, and I wrote about in A Way Out of the Web. There’s a pic of our little group to. I hate to quote an O-bot, but man, I am fired up and ready to go! I’m starting an 18 Million Voices group in my area.
Thanks so much, Murphy, for all you do. The action you facilitate is extraordinary and so vital to the movement.
Murphy on blog radio;
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
Maryland Puma, you are a great person and obviously a wonderful friend. You are right. This entire thing should be and will be dropped by all concerned. I just want you to know I am thinking positive thoughts for you, about this and about your illness.
Much respect.
Lavenia
132 webfoot……..
Arianna Huffington said that on her blog site, Huffington Post.
But……..I feel the same way…heheheh
662…I just read this. Is this guy for real who wrote the email? Not in my world will I ever be “ordered” to fall in line. Hillary didn’t lose, the DNC gave BOZO the nudge, illegally.
Top Dem Party Officials Send Sharply-Worded Email Demanding That Hillary Donors And Supporters Get Behind Obama
By Greg Sargent – July 19, 2008, 12:20PM
In a sign that senior Democratic officials remain deeply concerned that post-primary bitterness could imperil Barack Obama’s chances, two top Democratic officials have emailed a sharply-worded letter to major donors and other leading Dems confessing “fatigue and irritation” at those withholding full support from Obama and demanding that they get behind him “without conditions or demands.”
“I supported Hillary Clinton and am proud and pleased that I did,” reads the email, which was written by Donald Fowler, a former DNC chair and DNC member-at-large who was one of Hillary’s most prominent supporters. Alice Germond, the Secretary of the DNC, is also a signatory.
“But she lost,” continues the email, which was sent our way by a source. Barack Obama won. It’s over.”
“It is time for all Democrats, supporters of Senator Clinton and all other contenders for the nomination, to stand with him to secure his election and the election of Democrats at all levels of competition,” the email continues.
The email also laces sharply into Hillary supporters who remain embittered by the primary and are demanding things in exchange for their support.
“I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support,” it reads. “It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion. It’s time to put the primaries behind us. It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.”
Pretty stern stuff. The full email after the jump.
Dear Democratic Friends:
2008 is a Democratic year-at all levels in all the states. The opportunity is ours. We just have to seize it.
We experienced an exciting, intense, sometimes difficult, campaign to nominate our presidential candidate. Now it’s over. Barack Obama won.
I supported Hillary Clinton and am proud and pleased that I did. But she lost. Barack Obama won. It’s over.
It is time for all Democrats, supporters of Senator Clinton and all other contenders for the nomination, to stand with him to secure his election and the election of Democrats at all levels of competition.
I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.
It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion. It’s time to put the primaries behind us. It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.
It’s time to WIN for Barack Obama, the Democratic Party, America, and our future. We have an unparalleled opportunity. I hope we will all do everything we can to seize the moment.
See you at the Inauguration.
Sincerely,
Don Fowler
DNC Member At-Large, South Carolina
Former Chair of the Democratic National Committee
Alice Germond
Secretary, Democratic National Committee
#607 goandersen
No give backs sorry you’re stck with 15, and that picture is a little out of reach right now but I will find it
#671 Annabelle
Thanks for sharing the link about your meetup group. I just reviewed it quickly, but I’m going to read your notes about the meeting. Wonderful enthusiasm!
indypuma – I will post this here and on the upward thread: I will contact my daughter tomorrow, though she is due to have a bebe any day now (hence my trip this week). Delphine has provided us much to chew on with the French connections. I am attacking that myself tomorrow, plus the sites provided in the other posting which connects us to Britain and Germany too.
What she has told me anecdotally for months now mirrors what Delphine and Storyteller have shared: the Europeans are completely enamored with the Golden Boy because he is the opposite of Bush, and they can’t stand Bush. This merits us providing another point of view. Most definitely.
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bythelake – thanks for sharing the Don Fowler letter. Heh, heh, heh….they sound worried. Don’t you think they sound worried? They want their “loyal” dems to stop complaining? They are tired? Hell, we’re just getting started!!!!!!
Good evening PUMA’s
I’m gonna try to catch up, but I’m tired and lazy so I’ll probably only get half way thru
“23 TXPuma on 07.19.08 at 9:56 am
#4 #6 Trish & Sherry:
MO appears so insincere in her words and actions. You can tell they have been working on her. In the early days of the campaign she would grit her teeth and roll her eyes during his speeches. You could tell she so disagreed with what he was saying.”
I find it funny that she claims to be able to relate to women with kids and a career, given that she has a nanny…sheesh. I saw an article over on MYDD (no link, apologies) on her which linked to an interview where she was quoted as saying that she *had* to buy fresh fruit every day because her kids wouldn’t eat it unless it was fresh ever morning. Makes me wonder if she did grow up poor, if that’s an excuse she accepts – where is the evidence of the values one gains from having to do with less? It also doesn’t reflect well on her that she’s letting her kids grow up so spoiled. (And one wonders what becomes of all the uneaten fruit.)
bmw60 reminded me of something which bear srepeating:
Why the media has been so nice to Obama: For the past 16 years or so, it’s been their job to get Republicans elected. So they trump up things to knock out Dem candidates which they perceive to be a threat: Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Dean, Edwards, Hillary…contrariwise, if they like a Dem, that’s a big red flag: they want the weakest Dems on the ticket.
As far as Republicans go , they defend the strong ones as best they can, knock out the weak ones so as to leave the strongest.
Of course, they may intead see Obama as weak and able to pushed around as President; which is their real view we’ll find out in the post-convention pre-election period (should he be nominated).
If you have PMS then growl like the PuMaS!
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