Call and write the chairs of the DNC Rules Committee and tell them you want your vote represented. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than any primary candidate in American history. 18 million Democrats voted for a candidate who is now being disappeared by her party. Why, when she commands the support of a majority of the voters in her party, is Hillary being confined to a symbolic role in Denver? By disappearing Hillary from the Convention what the party bosses are really doing is DISAPPEARING OUR VOTES. ALL EIGHTEEN MILLION OF THEM. This is a swindle of massive proportions, and folks, they are getting away with it. They are saying that our votes don’t matter. That our delegates don’t have a real role at the convention. That those sworn to represent us, to vote for us in Denver, don’t really have a right to vote as it turns out.
Taking away the right of our delegates to vote? By extension, taking away our right to vote?
Are they serious?? Call today. Call as often as you can. Tell them to allow a true, meaningful roll call vote in Denver with Hillary Clinton’s name in nomination.
David WaltersPresident, Walters Power International Email: david@walterspower.com
Phone: (405) 528-2860
Fax: (405) 528-2466
Email: leedss@dnc.org Phone: (202) 863-8000
Mary Rose Oakar President, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Email: president@adc.org
Phone: (202) 244-2990 Fax: (202) 244-7968
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Hello……
One of these days I will get the number one slot -
Sorry everyone… here I am number 1 and 2… got to give you this link..
http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/the-great-obama-vs-obama-debate/
SEE SENATOR O… DEBATE HIMSELF AND SEE ALL HIS FLIP FLOPS
You are number one Wizard!!!
Good Luck MURPHY!!!
Hope it makes TV.
YOu have 18 million standing beside you today!
Not sure if this has been posted before.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/17/diane-of-just-say-no-deal-after-the-show-show/
Diane from Just Say No Deal on Fox yesterday. It was a good interview and Diane did a great job, seem like she was born to be on TV, so comfortable with it.
whatever happen to the sinclair´s affair??
was not he on tv??
ok seems I’m not really awake so I will say good morning here also
lol #3
Good Morning PUMAs!!
Good luck murphy, wish we could all be with you. We will for sure be with you in spirit!!!
Good morning, Pumas, and good luck today Murphy!
Please be safe.
#6 good job Diane
Good morning PUMA’s
sent out the prowl this am…better late than never….two of them got kicked back….full mailboxes?
Who was in charge of the Puma PAC ACTION CENTER? I think that is one of the most childish messages I have read to date! (If I don’t get my way I’ll take my toys and go home!) Grow UP!
What are you talking about #14? A blog comment?
Just read that message and it is embarrassing. Put the Action Center back up please!
# 14 I want to know also…lol..cant find it
Sorry, was on the phone:
http://pumapacusa.org/
Good Morning PUMAs,
I’ve been very busy lately but was reading some of the post from last night. I loved the action center and thought it was looking great. In general I’m a pretty soft spoken PUMA but if you’ll tell me who was giving you flack, I’ll be more than happy to have a gentle talk with them. I for one appreciate all that you do with the action center. We all need to remember that everyone is a volunteer and they are doing the best they can.
Now, for the third time over the last week, can someone give me the link to donors. Not the Huffington post link but the other one. It is my mission to find us some big (in money not size) donors. PLEASE!!!!!!!
The action center comment at;
http://pumapacusa.org/
The action center is critical for the goals of puma pac. I also think there could be a better way of doing this with out taking the entire thing down. It isn’t any of my business what happen but surely let’s not over look what we the people are trying to do and our mission.
As we saw in the primaries-the DNC (and BO) will do anything they can,with the help of the ever-compliant media, to “select” the Dem nominee. Why would the convention be any different? Appealing to the DNC to play by the rules is probably futile- the DNC has already shown they have no respect for the rules or for the HRC coalition. HRC was forced aside, our voice is disregarded,we’re told we are not even needed. We are told we are actually republicans!!!
Time for a new game plan,IMHO.
Damn……. are we goiing to implode with dissention when we need EVERYONE TO STAY ON TRACK… ??? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???
good morning!
Good Morning fellow Puma’s…
I’m back from vacation and wanted to start on my Action (they will get done even if it’s late) but where is the action site.
Also where can I get the delegate list.
Thanks,
MURPHY YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THIS IMMEDIATELY!!1
My vote – which was only HALF went up in smoke as well. GO PUMA’S! Floridian here.
Good Morning Everyone.
It’s unfortunate about the action center, however, I sure it will be rectified within the next couple of days.
Remember, we are a relatively new (6 weeks old) group that has amassed a huge membership within a short period. There are bound to be bumps in the road.
Considering everything, we have done an outstanding job. And, we will continue to do so.
To have a disagreement with someone is a fact of life, it’s happens everyday, however, a disagreement should not affect thousands of other people. What did we have a B.H.O. supporter with us all along? Even if we did, I would still rather have trust in people and then find out later that my trust was misguided. Do the right thing and take that childish message down!
Good Morning Pumas,
All right some bad news, good news and more good news.
Bad News: Obama raises $52 million, DNC $22 million; Huffpo, TPM, Politico, and LA Times report combined $92 million in bank.
Good News: Huffpo, TPM, Politico & LA Times are reporting false numbers. The DNC and Obama Campaign yesterday reported a combined $72 Million in the bank. Hmm… That means that Obama’s campaign blew $35 million last month and saw no results.
Check out my article this morning: Obama’s Donor Base Shrivels, Blows $35 Million, & Obama Bloggers Reporting False Numbers
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-donor-base-shrivels-campaign.html
More Good News: Since Launching our ‘Last Stand’ Email Initiative Yesterday, we sent out over 27,200 emails to Supers from the form on our website. So please continue to spread the word. It’s a simple way that just takes seconds for a Hillary supporter to let his/her voice be heard. Have a great morning.
One thing I’ve always loved about this site is how everyone pulls together, especially when things go awry.
We need to do that now. Let’s get focused and back on track.
We can create our own actions while waiting for Murphy and MarylandPuma.
#23 in regards to Delegates:
There are two really good sources for contacting the Super Delegates;
http://www.lobbydelegates.com/
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/last-stand-email-initiative-for-puma.html
28 go_Ohio_Lady
Ohio Lady, I agree. That was definitely a childish and self-serving message.
Our action for today is to – Call and write the chairs of the DNC Rules Committee and tell them you want your vote represented. The numbers are on the front post.
#19 Much to do…is this the site you’re looking for?
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
I totally agree with you about the action center. Some people just take their toys and go home…sounds like my little grandson. 2 yrs old! I hope things work out!
Call and write the chairs of the DNC Rules Committee and tell them you want your vote represented.
Call today. Call as often as you can. Tell them to allow a true, meaningful roll call vote in Denver with Hillary Clinton’s name in nomination.
David WaltersPresident, Walters Power International Email: david@walterspower.com
Phone: (405) 528-2860
Fax: (405) 528-2466
Email: leedss@dnc.org Phone: (202) 863-8000
Mary Rose Oakar President, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Email: president@adc.org
Phone: (202) 244-2990 Fax: (202) 244-7968
Hi all!
Murphy, do you think it makes sense to e-mail German newspapers? ..like a PUMA growl right before his visit or during it? At bitter politicz they posted these links:
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/germany.htm
http://www.world-newspapers.com/germany.html
If we should concentrate on Denver I understand.
Thanks!
Received the following email reply this morning from Pelosi re “Put Hillary Clinton on the Ballot at the Convention” email I sent to her 2 days ago:
“Thank you for contacting my office. Congressional courtesy prevents me from replying to emails if I cannot determine that you are a constituent of mine. If you are not a resident of California’s 8th Congressional District and are contacting me in regard to my role as Speaker, please email me at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov. If you are a resident of the 8th District of California, please contact my office in Washington, DC at (202) 225-4965 to be added to our database.”
As she is “Speaker of the House”…I would think that every American citizen is a contituents of hers.
M
#29 jrhed
Let’s take the good good news and run with it.
MAKE THOSE CALLS, EVERYONE!!!
Let’s show them that PUMAs are not going away … no matter who they send to try to take us down.
Link to the documentary by John McCain about B.H.O.
http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm
no qtr radio show in 10 min
Sunny, I’ll make my calls now. thanks for the info
#29 – a few days ago BO site said he only had 30M…and the people were all in a panic. I believe the #’s are not right.
SUNNY
Speaking of doing our own actions -
Media Blitz to announce MURPHY’s action today?
Just a thought.
35 FLGirl
I think that’s a good idea.
If we can get nobama’s itinerary, then do a mass email to the largest media outlet in the countries he visits.
It would only take a few moments aways from our Denver mission.
Good Morning! My first post but read everyday and do all the actions I can. I also got the same email from Pelosi. I emailed her back and ask her if she was not the speaker of my house the peoples house with no response!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/MorningQ/2008/07/18/MorningQ
one min until show time
The top post from Murphy has the PUMA action for today. Since the info is right there, it should only take a few minutes to do it … multiple times throughout the day.
So, I usually add a few actions of my own.
Finally someone at the Post with a critique on Obama:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701839.html?wpisrc=newsletter
#40 MsBinMD
FANTASTIC IDEA!!!! Let’s do it!!!
Hey, SunnyPA!
#33 joanna0902
Thanks for responding. I don’t think that is the one I’m looking for but maybe I can get some information from there. There was a posted website where I could put in my zip code and then all of the donors starting in my zip code and moving out would come up. I live in Houston and when I did this, I noticed many physicians in the Texas Medical Center who had maxed out to Hillary. Some had even already contributed to the general election. I figure these are die-hard Hillary fans and might be willing to help us out with advertising. This site not only gave their names but their addresses. I’m pretty sure at one point this website was on the old action center. Anyway, I tried to do a google search and couldn’t find it. I know at one time it was also listed on Wiki beside Murphy’s name but now it is gone. Maybe I can go through the Wiki history and find it. Thanks again.
#40 MsBinMD on 07.18.08 at 9:54 am SUNNY
Speaking of doing our own actions -
Media Blitz to announce MURPHY’s action today?
LET’S DO THAT!!!
#34 SunnyPA – thank you for the intel
By the way, did you all hear that Google stock is plummeting! Bwaahahahaha
#42 Hot_4_Hillary
I don’t believe the numbers.
#52 SunnyPA
I don’t either. Besides, wasn’t his goal $100 million? Looks like he’s starting to fall short of his own campaign’s expactations.
M
#40 MsBinMD
Which media outlets should we target?
Greta Wire, the DC papers, Fox News, USAToday — any others?
Hey Dragonfly
thought you might be interested in what i wrote today about PUMAPAC:
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
send me your comments with your thoughts…
Check out #29 jrhed’s link, Hot_4_Hillary #42
Also, re #27, the woman should not have been beaten up, obviously, for wearing that shirt, but the statement on the shirt is offensive.
Let’s be wonderful to each other today, PUMAs, as Murphy would say. I recognize we are having a bump with the Action Center, which I am about to investigate, but this blog is a place for positive activism and mutual support of our diverse and powerful membership.
ROAR to the DNC leadership today, channel your anger effectively, and we will live up to our name – the VOICE of the VOTERS
Your loyal Dragonfly
Thank you, Tom
Good Friday morning, everyone
I’ll come back in once I’ve completed my DNC Rules Cmtee Chair emails/calls and I’ve had a chance to catch up on last night’s posts.
Carpe diem, Mighty PUMAs!!!
Thanks, Tom, very much. I will check it out now.
Dragonfly
Joanna #39,
The Obama campaign never releases their numbers until the last day possible. The Mccain campaign and Hillary’s campaign have always released sooner. There is no doubt that the Obama campaign has a history of cooking the books. They needed extra cash to show up this month, so I have no doubt that they pushed off some of early July’s contributions onto last month, including the $5 million dollar fundraiser that Hillary gifted him with at the beginning of the month.
#45 Dragonfly, thanks for the link, what a great article written by Charles Krauthammer at the Washington Post.
This post is rather difficult for me to place into words, but only because I have always prided myself on the principle that I would never post anyone’s private email to any public forum or blog; nor would I post their names. It is a basic principle of mine, because I truly feel as though any private one on one email has the expectation of privacy attached to it, with or without the author’s knowledge. But I can place mine here. And I can also give you the gist of 1 reply I got in from yesterday’s project in which I participated in. (I did not use the form letter, but instead used my own wording).
_______________________________
A SuperDelegate Reply
Basically said to me that any role call vote would somehow embarrass Hillary Clinton because she simply does not have the votes. It would be a waist of time to try for such a thing. And so I was asked to do one of two things: Either support BHO as the party nominee, or put my efforts aback of trying to get Hillary the VP spot.
My Outgoing Email
Dear SuperDelegate,
As you know, this current primary season has been an exciting time for us. Never before in American history has there been such a close race; a race that is not over and will not be over until all of the Florida and Michigan delegation are given their full due at the Credentials Committee meeting; so that they will be able to participate in the Convention itself.
I’ve been following this race from day one, and contrary to media spin, Senator Barack Obama
is only the “presumed” nominee of the party, he only winning by a slight margin and based upon fraudulent and corrupt means implimented by Howard Dean by refusing to have Florida and Michigan represented at the beginning of the contest, and then by the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting of May 31st when they were only given 1/2 their status.
In a way, this is a protest letter. I am protesting the results of the past previous months and hoping that the SuperDelegates will make the right choice at the Convention itself. And that would include placing Senator Hillary Clinton’s name on the ballot so that a true and equitable roll call vote can be had and not just to honor her, but to give her a fair deal.
There is more at stake here than just winning an election. Our very futures are at stake, and yes our American Democracy. So I urge you to do the right thing, not only for the Party but for our country. I urge you to reconsider your vote and to base it not on which candidate has the most money coffers but upon who can actually beat McCain in the fall both on policies and on principles.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, and at the end of the primary season, having won most of the larger states and swing states had at least 308 electorial votes. My dear reader, she already had the General Election in the palm of her hand, and I truly feel as though she was not given a fair shake.
It is not too late. Candidates have gone into a Convention with much more of a spread; and it is still within your power to act on our behalf and pledge your vote to her and cast it in the same manner. With your help, it is possible to make Hillary the Party nominee… but that can only be done if you listen to the voice of the people and yes, to the voice of conscience, a conscience which should be based upon logic and reason, not upon media spin or media polls. We are the voices of 18 million strong, and I think we deserve a right to be heard—don’t you!
But if it is polls you like, then consider this: In a recent Rasmussen Report dated for Tuesday, July 15, 2008 New York Senator Hillary Clinton leads McCain by eight points, 50% to 42% and that is a wider margin than Senator Obama has over McCain; so clearly, Senator Obama is not neccessarily favored to win in the fall and moreso because of his recent flip-flops and his rapid moves to the center, a center that is beginning to look more and more like the policies of the current administration. Yet I truly believe that given the chance, Hillary Clinton can win in the General Election.
In light of all of the above and in conjunction with the final Popular Vote total one has to wonder if the SuperDelegates have given Hillary Clinton a fair deal and/or even if they read her May 29th “Letter to the SuperDelegates,” in which she presented, in clear precise terms her case. If you are one of them, please consider reading it now because it is not too late to make Hillary Rodham Clinton as the Party’s nominee for the Presidency of the United States.
Popular Vote:
Clinton: 17,839,981 at 48.04%
Obama: 17,565,530 at 47.30%
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml
Electorial Map:
Clinton: 308+
Obama: 237
McCain: 216
[Source: Hillary Clinton’s “Letter to the Super Delegates” s well as the PDF file entitled rightchoice.pdf
as well as other online media sources such as CNN’s Political Ticker Counter, etc. dated for the end of May 2008. The Electorial Map figures are derived from about June 1, just prior to South Dakota and Montana primaries.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Sincerely,
Kathleen M
When we write SDs, we’re not all (for the most part) sending the same letter to the SDs, are we?
It seems to me if we many of us were sending the same letter, after reading 2-3 identical letters, SDs wouldn’t read anymore because they’d assume they were all the same…and that wouldn’t really help us. They’d probably begin to think we didn’t put any real effort into contacting them…I dont want to offend, this is just my thought on sending letters.
ALSO:
When calling the DNC, I know we need to tell them we want our votes counted…but shouldn’t we say something about Senator Clinton’s name being on the ballot for nomination? (unless I missed something) It seems to me the DNC would assume we want roll call (the simple fix) if we don’t say we want her name on the ballot for nomination.
I received an action alert from NOW regarding the (tasteless) New Yorker cover, which they decried as “racist”. I emailed them, noting their lack of aggressive response to the systematic and vile misogynistic attacks directed at Clinton throughout her campaign. If you’re so inclined, please respectfully challenge NOW’s priorities.
This is a comment entered at Tom Abrahams site this morning. We MUST be careful with our words.
“At Murphy’s site, in today’s thread there is a blatant racist remark from one member about how she doesn’t understand how Obama has been able to raise so much money. She rattles off several things that she thinks should hamper his fundraising ability, the last one being “and, he’s black!!” This is just one of many racist remarks you read if you follow PUMA posts. I truly believe they like Hillary less than they HATE Obama. If they were truly HRC supports they would trust her judgement and support the Dem. nominee, Barack Obama, as she has chosen to do.”
Forewarned is forearmed! Be diligent PUMAs!
#64 Marc4Hill
It’s all in the numbers … the number of letters they receive. I’m sure the do not read each and every letter. And, regardless of how it’s written, the message is the same.
Heck, I don’t read all my emails and I don’t get that many, LOL
That reply I received as shown in post 63 is somewhat perplexing to me because online newspaper accounts have been saying just the opposite: That a roll call vote would somehow embarrass BHO.
So I found it odd that this one superdelegate should respond in that manner.
#64
Supers stopped reading letters back in Feb., most of the responses you now get, if any are auto-replies or please stop emailing me messages. It’s no longer about the mere content of the message, but moreover a massive volume of messages. Especially messages that carry the same title. So when you write a super make sure that the title is direct and pointed, like with our email initiative.
Check out #56 – there is a link to an article about us. Comments needed!!!
Administrator, please remove posts 27 and 42. Thank you.
Dragonfly
“My” Action Center??
What the fuck…
Listen… let’s stop bitching about “her” action center.
We’ve been doing this for a while. WE already know what to do. Keep the focus.
Our immediate goals are to get Senator Clinton’s name into NOMINATION, and to civilly persuade the Super Delegates to vote for her.
We do not need to dissapate our energies with internal drama and struggles… our movement is not dependant on any one person.
We can ignore adolescent dramas, the silly races to be first on new blogs, the “I’m leaving and never coming back” queens, the endless posts about hurt feelings because someone didn’t say “hello”, or because someone countered one of our posts; we don’t need to waste space on endless immature expressions of childish “crushes”.
This isn’t an ego gratification factory… if anyone requires that much attention, get thee to a therapist and use this blog for our mission, or just leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
Let’s get over ourselves and get back to work! We only have 30+ days to accomplish the first two of our primary missions.
PS There isnt anything at the Action Center that we can’t create or find ourselves on a smaller scale… flyers, SD addresses, etc. Let’s not waste anymore time with endless blathering about what went down. Let’s do what we do best! Let’s go go go!!! GO PUMAs!!!!
—– ACTION ALERT —–
Post #56
Read the objectively written article about PUMAs by Tom Abrahams and please leave a comment.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
#66 mpdamon, I tried to do damage control on the comments. I hope all of you who can will read the article and ROAR!
RE: #68 cosmeta, it’s interesting that this SD chose to ignore the points that you articulated so beautifully in your letter. Instead, s/he dismissed your request for a democratic process as “a waste of time”, and used a twisty scare tactic to undermine your activist support of Clinton (“you think you’re supporting her, but you’ll really be embarassing her…) . Something is wrong with this picture, and it ain’t your eloquent letter.
#72 DancesWithPumas
You are absolutely right Dances … but please leave it downstairs.
LET’S GO PUMAs!!!!!
I posted to both sites, demanding Hillary be on the nomination for both roll call and ballot.
This will be a travesty if they ignore our wishes.
I just received and undeliverable to leeds@dnc.org
—– ACTION ALERT —–
Post #56
Read the objectively written article about PUMAs by Tom Abrahams and please leave a comment.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
PUMAs, it’s Friday.
Let’s start the weekend with a big PUMA growl.
PS
QWe’e running around counter posts by Obots.
That’s sorta like arguing with a fire hydrant…
and just more precious time that could be used writing and making calls to the DNC, SD, media.
And as long as I’m going ballistic here… is it really necessary to repost automatic form letter relies from the people we’ve all written abd all have received the same response from?
Okay, I’m done now. Thanks for listening.
Back to work!
71 Dragonfly on 07.18.08 at 10:30 am
I concur heartily..they need removing pronto..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2t156yd8s4
Bill O’ is not someone I watch, but here is a good video where he gets onto msnbc and nbc for media bias. His comments in the last ten seconds are priceless. You’d almost think he supports Hillary.
Thanks Dragon
I post under several different names. I believe in spreading my knowledge and wisdom liberally throughout the land. ( Sort of makes me sound like Obama doesn’t it.) LOL
btw good morning all…
#80 DancesWithPumas
ROFL…. stay focused, Dances….ROFL… stay focused. We are here for you.
PUMAs, it’s like Dances said, we know what to do…let’s do it.
Then come back and brag.
I’ve got to run (pesky day job) … but I will do the action item and make comments on Tom’s article.
See ya in a bit.
Dances,
I hear you. Let’s stay focused on getting Hillary’s name in nomination and a roll call vote. SunnyPA, thank you for giving us direction today.
The documentary on us should be available this weekend. Stay tuned! Remember, if you feel low, get inspired with N.Lee’s or Flineo’s youtube videos.
The pressure is increasing as August approaches. We must remember that we can continue to make our voices heard and keep on speaking up.
Growl on, my friends.
I’m on it – give me a minute
I have no freakin idea what is going on
I’ve caught my daughters bug and just got on here after over-Nyquiling it last night!
Gimme a minute to catch up
#66 mpdamon on 07.18.08 at 10:23 am This is a comment entered at Tom Abrahams site this morning. We MUST be careful with our words.
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Isn’t he the guy who was in here yesterday or the day before saying he was a journalist or something. I didn’t really read his posts.
But let it be a lesson to all, be aware of your words and actions. Some bloggers don’t care what they write, the bigger the controversy the more readers they get. And know no matter what you say, if there is one teeny tiny thing they can jump on they will.
For what its worth, stating that you believe his being black will hamper his fundraising ability is not a racist comment, its your opinion and you’re more than entitled to it. I bet if we researched it, we’d could do a comparison of donations to black candidates and non-black from other political contests and you are probably right in your assumption. I think I might just do that just to go to that blog site and state the facts.
Drives me nuts how every little comment that includes skin colour is considered racist. I refuse to bow down to those who think we should eliminate colour from our vocabulary when referring to people. What are we to do when describing someone who is black, list eye colour, hair colour, height and weight but not skin colour, even when that is the most obvious characteristic
ok there is my rant for the day, and any blogger out there can write me up as racist, I say go for it because personally I have been called worse
#71 Dragonfly
Dragonfly, email Murphy and MamaPUMA, they might not be on the blog right now.
Thanks, Dragonfly.
#80 DancesWithPumas
LOL I love it when you go ballaistics, anything else you want to get out of your system?
Killing myself laughing here!
That just reminded me of May 31
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/may-31/
bbl tc all have to work for a living..(sometimes ) lol have a great day will get my prowl and growl ON today!!!
I agree with all of you that say we need’nt get into negative statements about race or gender at this site, even unintentially. The whole nomination has been plagued by the claims of racist claims, most of which are/were untrue but were used by the BHO camp for propaganda.
I also feel that the Action Center gave a great centralized process to try to make the changes needed for the DNC & perhaps, get Hillary nominated.
I recognize many from the Hillary site — and I know that they are very active in emailing/telephoning/emailing for Hillary.
For most of us, this is an emotional journey to correct a wrong and get the best candidate for POTUS.
PUMA PAC
Ok – let’s calm down here.
Have no idea what is going on.
Was there a conversation last night that I should be aware of before I start trying to figure out what’s going on ?
Have a great day everyone!
#95 Maryland PUMA… read the last 10 poats from downstairs… you’ll get the general idea.
RE: #82, yeah, just posted a comment to Tom Abrahams – suggestion: don’t waste energy arguing with the false debates that the Obama folks keep throwing out (if you don’t support Obama you’re a racist, Roe v. Wade fear tactics, PUMA’s are really Republican operatives, etc.). There are enough REAL issues to address, such as the DNC’s abdication of stewardship of the values of our Party, the undemocratic Democratic convention, Obama’s need for 300 advisors because he can’t cope with complex issues or ideas, lack of tolerance for dissent and critical evaluation of the presumptuous candidate…the list goes on….
PUMA confronts Dean in Crawford:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/welcome-to-crawford-howard-dean/
#64 Marc4Hill on 07.18.08 at 10:19 am, WROTE,
[[ When we write SDs, we’re not all (for the most part) sending the same letter to the SDs, are we?
It seems to me if we many of us were sending the same letter, after reading 2-3 identical letters, SDs wouldn’t read anymore because they’d assume they were all the same…and that wouldn’t really help us.]]
First, when I send out any email, I use my own words and my own subject header.
Second, when sending out a group email, I place one email address in the TO: and the rest inside of the BCC (blind copy) box to hide the email address from the rest of the group.
The reason being as you say…. once I see a repeat of a subject header in my email box, I deem it spam and not worth the reading. Matter of fact, I won’t even open such letters but will create a FILTER-BLOCK and place them immediately into my trash bin. And if we all sign them as a PUMA member, they will deem all the emails as if they are coming from one person… the head of the PUMA PAC organization. So 100, 1,000, or 100,000 emails will be counted as ONE email. Not good!
If I think it justified, I will sometimes end my email with the words: In support of PUMA but I do not write it as if I am representing PUMA PAC, in any way shape or form.
#95 Maryland PUMA… “read the last 10 [poats] POSTS from downstairs…”
We (I) were doing a lot of “poating” over the action center being down.
#95 Maryland PUMA
I’m sending you an e-mail
HELLO ALL….PLEASE VIST THIS POLITICAL BLOG HERE IN HOUSTON….. Let our voice be heard….LOAD AND CLEAR!!!!
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
PLEASE….SEND YOUR COMMENTS!!!!!
Thanks……LOUIS
GO HILLARY!!!!
Speaking of the BO campaign fund raising numbers and how much they are spending, does anyone know who is providing the airplanes and other travel vehicles for his upcoming trip. Can someone who know how to research these things, find out if these are corporate donated planes, etc?
#95 Maryland PUMA…..and PUMAS… sorry… won’t happen again.
Have a great action day… I’m going to make my calls and quietly slip into peaking from behind the curtains for a few days.
GOOD MORNING/AFTERNOON
PUMAs – take a step back and focus.
I need a few minutes to review the events. I haven’t been on the puter since 10 last night.
I do need to remind you that we are in the public eye. PLEASE be aware of how you express yourself and the words you use. If we are to be effective, we must stick to the facts of our dissent and use our passions in the proper manner.
Making borderline bias remarks makes us no better than those who are sending death threats to our members and members of the coalition.
Focus on Murphy’s PROWL above for now.
If you need documents from the Action Center, please advise. I have most of them – I hope.
No, PA4Hill08, the Action Site coordinator, was NOT a troll. She was a very dedicated PUMA who joined us from the HRC site. I’m not sure what is going on, but we can not let anything deter us from our mission.
FOCUS. FOCUS. FOCUS.
I’m telling you Murphy’s gonna fire me. Every time she is away, things fall apart.
#88 Trish, I agree with you that simply talking about race as a factor is not racist. The objectionable posts crossed the line, however.
#100 cosmeta… that’s how I do it cosmeta… I hate “form letter rejection”
MarylandPUMA, you can’t get fired. We wouldn’t accept your resignation if you were crazy enough to submit one.
Nothing could make my blood boil like a lava when anyone questioning where NOBAMA get his campaign money is called “racist.” I find ANYONE who affix racism when NOBAMA is being questioned as true epitome of stupidity matched with desperation. I will NEVER vote for NOBAMA even if you point a loaded .45 on my head. CHARACTER MATTERS! NOBAMA’s character is questionable to the NTH DEGREE.
NO ONE can force me to vote for NOBAMA and that includes Hillary. My vote is my own, NO ONE can dictate me who to vote for; I will cast my vote according to my beliefs and conviction. I AM AMERICAN FIRST, WELFARE of MY COUNTRY supersedes political affiliation. There are NOBAMA supporters in this blog, I don’t care if you people vote for your CULT LEADER, but my vote will be AGAINST HIM and that includes other members of my family.
This is where me and Hillary part ways, she can support NOBAMA until the last cow comes home, but she can NEVER persuade me to vote for him. HELL WILL FREEZE OVER BEFORE THAT HAPPENS!
I have a VERY STRONG abhorrence towards NOBAMA, I’m asian; Indonesia is our neighboring country. Many muslims who claimed to be “christians” have been beheading my people for a number of years. I’m NOT STUPID, I will NEVER vote for that man!
elect2009
But that’s what we’re here for…. full speed ahead you amazing PUMAS, we’ll show them.
We have accomplished so much, have gone so far ahead with goals, recognition in the media, in such a short time.
O.K., human nature I guess, with the Action Center, we took a few steps back, but we’ll be fine.
Too many great Pumas to help us pull forward again, even faster this time.
Murphy you stay well and good luck today.
We do what we can too, every little bit helps.
All for Hillary.
TrishfromCanada- you’re right.
Tom was the “visiting” journalist the other day. When you look for something, you will find it. If you believe a situation to be real, there will be real consequences. Most non-PUMAs believe we are racists, so they find words to display to the world to prove their point.
The media is attempting to discredit the PUMA movement anyway they can (the media that are in love with BO, anyway) so this is their methodology. Embrace us with promises of media exposure–then destroy us publicly. There are some folks here who say things that are uncomfortable to read at times, but most are trying to make sense of this election and the hijacking of democracy.
#75 tarma on 07.18.08 at 10:32 am, WROTE,
[[ RE: #68 cosmeta, it’s interesting that this SD chose to ignore the points that you articulated so beautifully in your letter. Instead, s/he dismissed your request for a democratic process as “a waste of time”, and used a twisty scare tactic to undermine your activist support of Clinton (”you think you’re supporting her, but you’ll really be embarassing her…) . Something is wrong with this picture, and it ain’t your eloquent letter.]]
Dismissive… EXACTLY!
It’s as if she were saying it’s already a forelawn (sp) conclusion so your input is not needed. And if that’s the case, I said to myself, why bother to have a convention.
if at denver the undemocratic party does not have HILLARY on the ballot, the clan is giving a “coupe de parti” to democracy, to the party , to the voters
& A LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE 18M
Good Morning Pumas,
I posted this yesterday but it bears repeating. Best friends Animal Sanctuary (Kanab Utah) is sponsoring an online (bipartisan) petition to help *61 pick the right dog for the family.
Maybe I’m picky but it seems to me they are giving the chosen one more free publicity and making a subtle endorsement.
Anyway when they asked me to sign I asked them to remove me from their lists and said a lot more. I believe they must have taken some heat because they have a generic type response.
I just feel we’ve got to stop the BS any way we can. No matter how small the effort it all adds up.
Living in rural America with bitter, gun toting, angry people–(only the rural part is true!)
Blessings
#115 – Perhaps a HOUND dog would do?
Trish you have mail.
Maryland Puma and others who give, give, give for this site and our goals, we do appreciate what you do and stay strong.
We are PUMA!!!!!! WE STICK TOGETHER LIKE GLUE!
110 Asian4Hillary
I feel your passion and anger and I agree 1000%
I think Hillary has to take that position right now, she’s faithful to the Party and I think she feels she has no choice.
But don’t worry, she is a brilliant woman and Bill is a brilliant man.
Let’s wait and see what happens, we don’t have to vote for anyone anyone says, even Hillary, and she knows that.
Don’t upset yourself, let’s stay on track, stay with us here at PumaPac, and together I believe we can change this course.
NObama will self-destruct. The way he’s going, it will happen.
About the racist crap, that’s one of the cards he’s using and he seems to be using it well, so far.
He’s playing on people’s sensitivity. We don’t want to be perceived as racist so we’ll vote for him.
Well, that’s where he’s wrong. Lots of people are staring not to trust him, they see right through him, his flip-flopping, his arrogance, his inexperience, all his negatives, etc.
We don’t appreciate our intelligence being insulted.
Even if he makes it in Denver, he won’t be elected, he’s not a strong candidate.
Let’s stay the course and wait. We’re Pumas, right?
Hi all jut stoped in to say hi and see what the daily is will email and call . Have a good one.
#113 cosmeta, I know what you mean. I am so sick of how “dismissive” Obama supporters are. Luckily, we are not deterred!
ROAR on, PUMAs.
Good morning fellow Pumas,
Hey#36 emme I also got the exact same e-mail back from Pelosi, word for word. what going on this morning? whats got everyones dander up? some one let me know please!!!
#83, sorry I just now saw your comment. LOL! Did you read the article in the Post, the Audacity of Vanity? quite good! Rock on, mpdamon!
Dragonfly
Maryland
I too made the suggestion that Obama should have a hound . . . one of Rendel’s preferably.
I sent some mail to the large news media outlets suggesting that this country is missing a golden opportunity to make money. Why don’t we start renting out places like; the Statue of Liberty, Lincoln Memorial, Mount Rushmore, to aspiring European politicians. They can then advertise their knowledge of and endorsement by Americans.
I’m confused, isn’t Howard (screaming) Dean on the DNC committee?
The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee is on the DNC?
What would I say to them?
Yes Dragon. When Obama made a comment about his ears not fitting on Mt Rushmore, I responded that his ears would fit but not his ego.
Everyone, please check out cosmeta’s #63. I will be using her words as a go by for my efforts in communicating SDs.
#127 – LOL! so true.
Good morning PUMAs!
Emailed the two DNC chairs, emailed NOW and commented on “thevote”. Have a nice day everyone!
You know, I am really tired of being told is I don’t vote for BHO that I am not a true democrat. As most of you know, Taylor Marsh is one of the worst. I have voted only for democrats, since I started voting (over 40 years ago!). Don’t give any PUMAs garbage about not being democrats!! We are here because we have a history of voting for democratic candidates.
We will never get the party back if BHO wins.
PUMA PAC
#123 tillerylakelady – no worries. One issue is that the PUMA in charge of the action site has been discouraged by the lack of support she’s received lately, and MarylandPUMA and I are reaching out to her in hopes of figuring out exactly what’s going on there. Another issue is that we had a blogger on this morning who made an inappropriate joke, and a PUMA hater blogged negatively about us on Tom Abrahams’ site. Check out his article about us and blog.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
#131 goDGS, I hear you and agree. I’ve always voted Democrat, but I will not vote for the Vain One.
#130 chrmgrl – thanks and have a great day!
Good morning all!
I sent my e-mails to say I want my vote counted for Hillary.
mpdamon: I agree with you regarding being careful what we say. But in this case, I find it peculiar this morning that with all the Puma’s thousands of blogs everyday , I’ve never read any racial slurrs here before.
I don’t recall this particular blogger’s sign-in, but possibly this person was a “plant” in order to then post a highly-negative-towards-Puma comment on Tom’s article…an opportunity to prove his/her negative point within this article–coincidentally published online this morning. hmmmmm, perhaps I’m paranoid, but I smell somethin’ a bit fishy. (Puma’s have a keen sense of smell !)
In case any newcomers are reading our blogs today please know that:
Puma’s do NOT base their operations out of racism and do not condone such comments. It is not the Puma way.
Did anyone get the letter Hillary wrote to the Seneca Falls Project. Heidi Li Feldman sent it out this morning.
It will make you smile.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_lJK9qaX7XKE/SH-LrCDWdCI/AAAAAAAABLA/4GT12iaMcrw/s1600-h/7.16.08Letter.jpg
PA4HILL
Just got done reading posts to catch up. I hear your frustration. None of us knows the whole story of what is going on behind the scenes. But I certainly appreciated all the time and effort you brought to the site. Most of which I was not aware.
While I do not post much, I have come to look at this PUMA group, Riverdaughter etc. like an extended family. And like an extended family at times we all feel unappreciated, and maligned. Some may be justified, and some not. But it is our perception nonetheless.
I would love to see a resolution to whatever situation is broiling behind the scenes. You have been a valuable and passionate contributor in our mission to stop Obama. And that mission must guide us now.
I don’t want to lose you.
For the rest of the PUMA family, may I request a little patience and understanding. We don’t need to eat our own. There are plenty of other places who will gladly do that for us.
PUMA
We all need to post with this in mind.
Would you want your statment to be on the cover on the New York Times.
We don’t want to get intimidated or loose our passion in our words. We have the RIGHT to engage in a civil dialogue. The Obama machine was not expecting this kind of trouble and the are flopping around like fish out of water…gasping and thumping. It’s all posturing. Don’t let it take us off point.
Rule of thumb: Avoid any personal insults of any kind. Stick to issues and YOUR feelings about what is going on.
Revision:
“Would you want your statement to be on the cover of the New York Times, with your name attached to it?”
I am not sure if I am a true Puma as I have changed my party to none of the above. I have registered as an independant! I think we all should do so at once!
I will donate and support Pumas as I have sent a drop in the bucket for the BUS people.
Good luck in Denver and be safe.
BTW – my family heard Dan Rather on MSNBC this morning make a slip of the tongue. I did not, because I won’t watch that cable network program. Supposedly, Dan Rather was making commentary about the campaign and he referred to BO’s supporters as Obamabots. The other anchors did not address it. Did anyone by chance hear that as well?
Just responded to Tom Abrahams piece….
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Dear Tom,
Thanks for writing this piece. I have followed this election like no other…very closely and in the process became very passionately involved. Leaning Democratic, I wasn’t sure initially if I would vote for Obama or Hillary Clinton. Being a 59 year old white female, I wasn’t going to necesarily vote for a woman just because of that factor. I actually was glad to see an African American candidate. I live in a wonderful community that is comprised of 70% African American young professionals.
In the beginning of the primaries there didn’t seem to be much difference in policy between the two candidates, so I watched closely what they were saying. As time went on I began to see Obama’s arrogance, elitism and condescending tone emerge…everything from “You’re likeable enough Hillary” to his infamous “clinging to guns and religion”. Then it was Rev. Wright and the shady characters he had called friends or mentors…too many to mention. I do believe you can judge one’s character by the company you keep.
So I began supporting Hillary online and donating to her campaign. The blatant media bias against Hillary became evident. Obama refused to debate Hillary on several occasions. I got tired of hearing him talk about the one antiwar speech he gave when he wasn’t even in the Senate to vote for it. I became outraged at Obama constantly calling Hillary a “status quo” candidate when he consistently paraded out status quo endorsements. So hypocritical. I began to worry that this country might even elect this rock star like candidate with a razor thin resume.
Next there was the entire issue of the Michigan/Florida votes. I tried to look at it from both sides, but came to the conclusion that any Party rules that DISENFRANCHISED voters was simply unjust and undemocratic. Obama kept silent to keep his pledged delegate lead…not a very admirable thing to do. Hillary kept winning PRIMARIES and supporting either a revote or full vote status. The DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting was a joke. I began feeling like my vote doesn’t count and why even vote at all. The heart of democracy was at stake here.
The day of the South Dakota primary was a fiasco. The media reporting superdelegates possibly putting Obama over the top before the polls closed was a travesty of a just primary process. Voter supression is not allowed in my rulebook. Later I learned more about caucus fraud and more and more about Obama’s shady Chicago political tactics.I became incensed and righteously indignant…NOT bitter and angry.
I joined PumaPac the day it started on June 3rd. I had enough of the injustices. At this point, it doesn’t matter to me how many people cry Unity. It doesn’t exist. The DNC created this mess and have “selected” a left wing liberal who changes his mind on policies faster than I can read to
keep up with them. He does not pass muster in my army. He doesn’t live up to any criteria in my view of what a leader of the free world or Commander in Chief should be. He does not represent me. IF Hillary does not get the nomination, I have no problem voting for McCain. I am more concerned about this country’s CHARACTER than whether a particular party is in power. Our DEMOCRACY is in jeapordy.
One final note. I have wondered all along how in the world Obama has raised so much money. He has repeatedly said 90% is coming from small donations or is it donors? There is a difference. If it is donors, then the 10% could be large sums from bundlers, from overseas (as I have heard) and from what I can tell he is not willing to release the info to the public. Yet he claims to be a candidate of transparency in goverment? If I was a reporter I would be all over that one.
Thank you and hope to hear from you again on PUMAPAC.
Zephyr
Posted by: Zephyr | July 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM
#63 cosmeta on 07.18.08 at 10:17 am
would you mind posting the letter of the SD? And what’s his name? I got no replies to my letters sent yesterday (I didn’t only send the form letter).
#45 Dragonfly — Krauthammer’s Article About Obama
Dragonfly, thanks for the link. I’m going to invoice you for the time I just spent writing Krauthammer an email in response to his article.
For those who haven’t read it, Krauthammer does a good job exposing the fraud. It’s worth reading.
Here’s my email to Krauthammer. Enjoy …
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Dear Mr. Krauthammer,
I loved your article “The Audacity of Vanity.”
However, I differ with you on one point. Senator Obama’s English is not fluent. Admittedly, his English is passable when he’s able to read from a teleprompter the scripted words of his speechwriters. I say passable versus fluent because his message is still obscured by arrogance. Nonetheless, when Obama has those crutches, he at least sounds intelligible.
On the other hand, when Obama speaks extemporaneously, his sentences are so punctuated with ums and ahs that he sounds inarticulate. There is nothing fluent about speech so disjointed that listeners want only to shut him up in the most expedient manner possible just to put an end to the painful ums and ahs.
Aside from that one point of disagreement, I thought your article was great. It’s so nice to see pundits finally catching on to this fraud.
It’s only been in the last few months that I discovered CNN, FOX, and MSNBC, so I’m new to watching political coverage. However, in that short time, I’ve come to respect you as someone who presents things honestly and fairly. I always take notice when you have something to say.
Because I respect you, I want to share with you why I still support Hillary Clinton and am working behind the scenes with PUMA to see that Hillary is nominated at the DNC convention. If Hillary is not the nominee, I will vote for McCain in November.
It’s not about the sexism or the disenfranchisement we saw during the primaries, although that bothers me too. It’s about fundamental differences in character.
Let me start by saying that I seriously considered Obama when I began watching the debates earlier this year. But I quickly saw that Hillary was a better choice.
Once upon a time, I wanted to see a Clinton-Obama ticket. Once upon a time, I thought I would vote for Obama if Hillary endorsed him. But the more I see of Obama, the less I like him and the less I trust him. Most of my friends consider Obama “scary.” I agree.
My feelings about Obama changed dramatically when the Reverend Wright story broke. I don’t believe that Obama could spend 20 years in that church without embracing the hateful, poisonous attitudes of Reverend Wright. (It’s human nature to embrace the attitudes of those around you when you want so desperately to belong, to fit in, and to be accepted.) Those same hateful, poisonous attitudes dominate the blog posts from Obama supporters. When I see the hatred and violence that Obama inspires in his followers, I can only conclude that an Obama presidency would be dangerous for our nation and the world.
Beyond that, I’m turned off by Obama’s increasingly dismissive attitude. Refusing to do additional debates with Hillary when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of Hillary and voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated in full was dismissive, not only to voters in those two states, but to voters everywhere. Refusing to accept John McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings is dismissive. Voters want to hear those debates, and we’re entitled to them.
What this says to me is that a President Obama will be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s unacceptable. We’ve had that from President Bush for the last eight years. I don’t want it anymore.
I want to expand on the issue of weekly town hall meetings with John McCain, because for me it’s a very telling one. How many times during the primary season did Obama say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? So why does he now do everything possible to avoid the weekly town hall meetings that McCain keeps asking for?
Here’s what Obama’s actions say to me:
• Obama is not a man of his word.
• Obama does not respect voters who very much want to hear both candidates discuss the issues. Nor does he respect leaders in other countries who also want to hear both candidates discuss the issues.
• Obama not a man who can or will reach across the aisle as he has repeatedly promised to do. If he intended to reach across the aisle, he’d be doing it now every chance he could.
• Obama is afraid that McCain will expose the lack of substance behind his empty rhetoric.
• Obama isn’t confident enough about the issues to speak without a teleprompter or the scripted words of his speechwriters.
• Obama doesn’t believe in transparency in government. That catch phrase is as phony as he is.
• If Obama were to become President, he would repeatedly shy away form difficult decisions and uncomfortable topics. So, too, would he avoid talking with other world leaders unless they bow to his every whim.
On policy issues, I’m more aligned with Democrats than I am with Republicans. But I can’t in good conscience vote for a man of such bad character.
I’m writing to you in such depth for two reasons. One, I’d love it if you would get behind this issue of town hall meetings and use your influence to help push Obama into it. The media has been giving him a free pass for far too long. Again, voters are entitled to hear these debates. So, too, are the superdelegates who still have the right to vote for Hillary at the convention. If Obama can’t hold up against John McCain, the time to find out is now, not after it’s too late to nominate the stronger candidate.
Two, I’d appreciate it if you could help show the world that PUMA is not a group of bitter menopausal women who will vote for McCain out of spite. Many of us are well-educated, hard-working professional women and men who care very much about our country and the issues. The common thread that binds us is (1) a profound dislike and distrust of Obama and (2) a profound unhappiness over how corrupt this political process has become. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind for America. And Obama is not right for America or the rest of the world.
Beyond that, each PUMA member is free to do as he or she pleases in November. Some, like I, will vote for McCain to keep Obama out of the White House. Some will vote for other candidates. Some will stay home. But all agree we will not vote for Obama. (Some might do so if Hillary is on the ticket, but many don’t want Obama in the White House even under those circumstances.)
Thank you for your consideration and for your ongoing good work on behalf of our country.
HP Boston,
I abandoned the Democratic Party after DNC SELECTED NOBAMA. I had a long talk with Democratic Chairman in my city before doing it. Majority of PUMA PAC MEMBERS is the BASE of the Democratic Party. WE, REAL DEMOCRATS supported our party for a number of years; from donating money to the DNC every month, to volunteer during election time for democratic candidates to be elected. I am NOT doing that anymore, I’m now an independent voter and will NEVER go back under the umbrella of the Democratic Party if they don’t clean their act. Our goal (PUMA) is to bring back our party, the heart of the Democratic Party not where NOBAMA, Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy and others wanted to take it. I used to be a bleeding heart democrat, I used to vote straight democratic ticket without thinking twice, NOT ANYMORE. It took a CORRUPT POLITICIAN from Southside of Chicago to make me realize, I AM AMERICAN FIRST, the welfare of MY COUNTRY supersedes my political affilation.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
Thank-you for commenting on my postcards designs the other day. Till now I think I have sent in a few, however it is not used, maybe later, maybe never, not sure? I don’t mind that too much, and I’m sure there has been others that have done great work behind the scenes without recognition as well. But, I/we have a common goal of NOBAMA. So for me in the end, I don’t ‘really’ care who(us, others, Martians, Aliens, unknowns) gets credits for what, as long as NOV-4 will be NOBAMA.
Running a website is A LOT of work, I know, it took me weeks to get my project website going (I just learnt it recently
SO THANK-YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK!
I’m from overseas and have not participate in the actions, as I think I shouldn’t interfer that way, so I just send in designs. But, many wonderful people on here do. SO PLEASE CAN WE HAVE IT BACK
sorry, cosmeta I didn’t read your whole post. could you at least say which SD? I’d like to know if I emailed him/her too…
Firebelle, as always, you rock!
Invoice me, girlfriend, but a whole lotta other people are ahead of you on my bleeding budget.
It appears I need to tell you all a little more about me, then how my role has evolved here and what I see it as now.
I am a 39 yo single (no father involvement) mom – my daughter is almost 8. I live with my mother, who has fibromyalgia and severe PTSD. I help take care of my 86 year old grandmother. I was laid off from my job after 10 years of service so I am in college full-time, I work part time at my community college. I also run (well, was running) an ebay business to help ends meet. I live on the outskirts of a mid-size town in Maryland 25 miles from the beach. I am truly a country mouse, as Murphy calls me. Not much opportunity here except to get an education and raise a kid in a somewhat safe place.
I started on this blog as a blogger. I had never blogged before except on AOL. I blogged and helped PUMAs with tech issues and tried to fill the needs we had, whether they were graphic design, organization, tech issues, peace maker, or bad cop. I don’t have the money to contribute, so I contribute my time and whatever talent I possess. My role morphed into what it is now – which is just about everything and then some. And that’s truly not ego talking.
Some talents I am good at. Some talents I forced myself to learn (or did the best I could) to meet the need. Some talents I am refining as we go. Everything I know from software to marketing is self taught or gleaned from examples, as I am in school to be an elementary teacher. (Yes, I can change my oil in my car or a flat tire)
Now, I am somewhat of a backup for Murphy. I truly do NOT know how she does it. I get 400+ emails a day. I try to watch the blogs. I’m trying to network with sister sites and combine efforts on things that we share in common. I convert documents to readable form. I assist users with tech issues. I just recently started moderating the blog – and that ain’t easy. I was doing the majority of the graphics until others jumped in and joined the party. No, the graphics aren’t professional, but I’m learning rather quickly. I was also asked to make sure all our documents were within our legal boundaries, e.g. disclaimer and logo and presentation and word choice and factual basis. Murphy will take the hit personally if we breach the law. Those are just some of the things I do – not all.
The other thing you should know is that Gmail is not friendly at all. I have over 700 contacts in less then a month and a half. All these contacts aren’t listed by your puma name – I have either your REAL name or the name you assigned to the account when you registered with Gmail. That makes it incredibly tough for me to find you by username in a stack of 400 emails. I also get so many that I have to prioritize. I try my damndest to respond to everyone who emails me, but some may slip through. Others I do not feel comfortable making decisions on so I forward to Murphy for resolution.
So, to say it bluntly, I resent the implication that I ignore anyone. I am on this project 10+ hours a day, if not more, sometimes to the detriment of my family – BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THIS CAUSE – I’M DOING IT FOR MY DAUGHTER’S FUTURE.
I refuse to be distracted by innuendos about me or my work on this PAC. Everyone is free to email me privately about issues – and some of you have, which we have resolved like adults.
However, I will not be accused of neglecting my duties or not helping my fellow PUMAs when they are in need. I resent the implication that I ignore anyone on purpose or am attempting to control anyone. This is simply not the case.
For the record, I did correspond with PA4Hill08 last night regarding some suggestions that she sent that I did NOT get. I advised her that other PUMAs were having difficulty getting things through to me too and to resend please. She did, and I told her to give me a few to look over it because my cub was sick. I don’t know what precipitated this reaction from her.
As far as ignoring suggestions from ‘experienced activists’ – there is NO way that we do that. We take everyone’s input into consideration. Some of the ‘suggestions’ are not possible with this software. Some of them we ARE WORKING ON. Some of them require research or legwork that takes time. ALL of them are the ‘que’. This is a business of split second reaction, and some of the planned ideas get kicked to the curb to take advantage of an event or media coverage that is aligned with our purpose.
We are making a difference. Our PAC is finally getting some solo recognition instead of being lumped in with everyone else. I’ll be damned if I will let someone’s unjustified hurt feelings or overinflated ego undermine the democratic future of my daughter.
When Murphy tells me “Maryland PUMA, it’s time to go.” I will go. Until then, I plan to keep on doing what I’m doing to the best of my ability. You don’t have to talk to me at all if you dont like me. Just let me do my work and treat me fairly.
I apologize for the long post. It’s been a rough ride for me, especially since I caught my daughter’s cold and am sleep deprived from her sleeping with me for the past two nights. Yet, here I am. I apologize for anyone’s toes who may get compressed in the reading of my missive.
::sniff::
MadLogic, thank you for your post! Btw, I loved your poster you send to Maryland PUMA. the two faces of *61. Awesome!
#116 Maryland PUMA
I was thinking more of a greyhound, cause i’m sure the dog will end up under the bus too.
#136 Hill4me
My thought exactly about the plant. When I read the post I thought this is not the sort of person who usually posts here. Has anyone gone to the article and said this?
#142, Lin4Hill – didn’t hear it but love it! Dan Rather is my new hero. heehehehehe
Aisian4Hillary
My sentements Exactly!
I have never voted for a repub, I do not think I can hold my nose tight enough!
Maybe a vote for Nader will beat the obomb?
It is clear from Tom’s Article Posts that many Obamabots leark around here and read our posts. Of course they do, they are afraid…..as well they should be….
Please understand, anyone who comes to visit, we are PRO TRUE DEMOCRACY, WE ARE TRUE AND LOYAL DEMOCRATS LOYAL TO DEMOCRACY – NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY….. WE WILL NOT GET THROWN UNDER THE BUS AND STAY THERE BECAUSE YOU WANT US TO. SORRY KIDS…..NO KOOL AID HERE,,,, BUT THANKS FOR THE VISIT AND IF YOUR HEART IS TELLING YOU TO SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH AND FIGHT FOR IT, THEN YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE…. STAY….
#136 Hill4me – thank you for your post!
Hi guys, just my opinion, but if we want to make SURE *61 does NOT become President, then our votes will be best served if casted for MCCAIN.
I too have never voted Republican. Die hard Democrat here, however, a vote for anyone other than McCain will be a vote for *61. I know how you must feel, but it is for the greater good of our Country and Democracy that we must suck it up and punch the screen. McCain is not so far right anyways, and Hillary seems to like him.
Anyways, it is your vote – you own it. I respect and admire everyone here.
loyaly,
a McCain voter in Nov.08
#151 Dragonfly and others
MarylandPuma
God bless you all. I don’t have much money either, and time. So I just donate my little time and skill, along with everyone else.
*61 is capitulating on his own, but we should stay firm/together!!!!!
I posted this last night but probably past everyones bed time since it was even late in Seattle. I did not see National Organization for Women actively condemning the sexist media during the primary. Now they have the nerve to send me an email asking for money to stop the “racism” aimed at BO! These idiots are truly irrelevant to women. The other thing they most often get active about is media slurs directed at gays. Not a bad thing to get up in arms about but have you ever seen a gay org or a race org. direct any effort to stop sexism? No, they focus on their own problems. These #%$&*s are too dumb to be believed. They also seem stuck on the idea that abortion is the most important issue facing women, a very strange perspective given that many of them are post menopausal and lesbian who live in 2008 where the is easy access to safe effective birth control, unlike 1970. So here is the email….
w Yorker Cover — Satire or Slur?
Send Editor Remnick A Message!
You don’t even need to open the latest edition of the New Yorker to see racism in the media and the presidential race. All you need to do is look at the cover!
The July 21 issue of the New Yorker magazine features a caricature of Senator Barack and Michelle Obama in the Oval Office. Michelle is clad in guerrilla warfare garb, a machine gun over her shoulder. A portrait of Osama bin Laden is over the fireplace, and Barack (dressed like bin Laden) is giving Michelle a fist bump while a U.S. flag merrily burns in the fireplace. In this context, we’re guessing the fist bump is the one Fox News described as a “terrorist fist jab.”
New Yorker editor David Remnick says it is satire, so that makes it okay?
Action Needed:
Sorry, we’re not buying it. This cover will appear on newsstands across the country, possibly the world, and will likely do more to fuel racist stereotypes than to skewer them.
Take action NOW by sending a message to David Remnick!
Your message to the New Yorker? Tell them, “If your cover cartoon about the Obamas is a satire, we aren’t laughing. Stop peddling racism and religious intolerance in your magazine!”
You can use our letter, modify our letter, or write one of your own.
It’s media biases and blunders that inspired NOW to create our Media Sexism Hall of Shame. Check it out!
NOW’s ongoing campaign to keep the Media accountable needs your financial support, donate here!
Meanwhile, tell the New Yorker what you think NOW!
For what it’s worth, here are my 2 cents worth:
I don’t know everything that’s going on behind the scenes. I try to come on every single day … a few days I have been out of town or doing something that kept me away from my computer .. but almost every single day since I joined PumaPac. In every group I’ve ever belonged to, esp on the Web, there is dissent and somebody gets their feelings hurt, etc.
I read every comment that’s on here. Some I don’t always agree with.. some I agree with passionately. I sometimes am a lurker, I guess, cuz sometimes I just read and don’t comment. I join in with the actions, etc. I’ve tried to support everything to the best of my ability.
Sometimes a group can get dragged down because of internal conflict. I am proud of those who post for stepping back and cooling off when you get your feelings hurt or perhaps just when a comment you think is directed to you bothers you.. i.e. hurts your feelings…
I’ve noticed that some people are very effective on clearing up even possible misunderstandings quickly and efficiently.
There is, IMO, room for both personal and professional on this site. That’s probably part of the allure for me that not only is there a group that helped me personally feel like I had a reason to continue to work to support HRC, but a group who was also outraged by the actions of the mainstream media and the DNC. I too was feeling completely disenfranchised by the Dem party.
I’ve read a lot about how this group or perhaps the total associated groups with JustSayNoDeal could perhaps form another party. This could be a wonderful idea!!! I definitely think that if nothing else, this PAC should continue on after 2008 to try to keep ALL the politicians and representatives of WE THE PEOPLE a lot more honest. I believe there’s been a real need for a very long time now for there to be a VIABLE third party to challenge the “STATUS QUO”. I believe that over the years some kind of money has changed hands and the politicians have become owned.. and not by the people.
There has been a slow but insiduously steady growing disenchantment for the people en masse because for a very long time, people have been feeling like it does not matter if they vote or not.. they feel their vote does not “count”. Now we are all feeling it. Perhaps, well, more than likely the events that happened in 2000, 2004 and now here in 2008 have all contributed to this growing feeling. It’s rather shocking to me, frankly, that the “powers that be” have become so OPENLY CORRUPT!!! I think they used to try to hide their actions better, or perhaps with the advent of the internet, it simply has become harder to do so.
A lot of intelligent people here have it absolutely right, again IMO, it’s all about the money.. money and power.. and it’s been building for a very, very long time. If groups like this one can stay together and stay focused on what I see as the major objective of this PAC… to reform the Democratic party.. to call attention to obvious illegalities and irregularities, to try to capture the American public to be INVOLVED again… perhaps we can make a real difference.
Let us please stay focused. Let us please remember that it is an important thing, something that brought us all together, that each individual has the inalienable right to their opinions and their vote is a sacred thing.. honor each other and continue to be committed to working hard to realize our goals.
We can save the USA.
PUMA POWER!!!
What a mixed up morning this has been..I’ve gone through so many emotions already and it’s 9:03 here in La La Land…
1. PA4Hill08..I read you since the HRC site..take a step back. You do incredible work and I would hate to lose your passion.
2. MarylandPuma, thank you for the reminder to FOCUS
#106 made me laugh, and we need that. Besides you can’t be fired…can you?
#149 Dragonfly
You can pay me in Puma dollars. They may soon be worth more than American currency.
#150 Maryland PUMA
Wow, you’ve got so many talents, very nice. No wonder you can do as much as you do and still have time for your family. You and Murphy ride well over the bumps we experience here, thank you for everything you do.
Everyone needs to understand life gets busy off this blog too, so patience is a virtue and if a person doesn’t get a response immediately they can send a polite e-mail saying, sorry but did you get my last email about such and such. I think I’d pull my hair out at 400 or more e-mails a day.
Posted to an earlier thread just now and repeated here.
See, Howard and Nancy, Not for Democracy thread
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#1422 cosmeta on 07.18.08 at 12:13 pm
PA4HILL08,
Within the last day or so, I posted a response to you, wanting to know about hosting companies, but with the confusion of Threads being out of order here, I do not know which of the 3 top thread I posted to. So here’s the gist of what I responded.
I have used the following three hosting companies within the past severals years
– verio.com
– godaddy.com
– hostgator.com
Verio is very expensive but has good support. The downfall is they only allow for one mySQL table.
Godaddy offers a good price, their support is pretty good but their control panel is not easily navigated.
Hostgator SWAMP plan cost $12.95 a month for a total of $179 yearly. Their support is pretty good and they offer UNLIMITED subdomains and domains, email, etc.
If you are looking for FREE templates
Try these,
http://www.oswd.org – Open Source
http://www.freewebtemplates.com
If you are looking for Logo designs,
Try this one,
http://www.thelogoloft.com
I know how frustrating web page building can be, because I own and manage about 4-6 of them myself. It’s a full time job all by itself. And that is not including all the other work that you have been doing for PUMA PAC, so my hat is off to you.
With regard to no email responses,
I have written to Murphy, DragonFly and MarylandPUMA and offered my assistence. I have also taken the time to create some sample files for PUMA PAC and have sent them in a Zipped format.
I have also placed them up inside of my own website for easy download.
See,
http://www.cosmeta.com/murphy/index.html
http://www.cosmeta.com/murphy/index0.html
http://www.cosmeta.com/murphy/index1.html
http://www.cosmeta.com/murphy/index2.html
http://www.cosmeta.com/murphy/index2b.html
http://www.cosmeta.com/murphy/index3.html
The index.html is a REDIRECT and set at ZEOR seconds so it may not appear… but the others will.
index3.html is my own recreation done by hand.
You are welcomed to them since no one has bothered to respond to me either.
These are not CSS templates but regular html coding, I creating my own pages from scratch and will very often use textpad a sophisticated notepad.
If I can be of any help to you, please email me at, cosmeta[@]aol.com and I will respond and give you my regular email address I use for this forum.
Kathleen
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
PLEASE go respond to ABC’s Tom Abrahams article.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
MarylandPuma….hang in there and THANKS for all your hard work and hours you spend. For people just starting….Amazing how quickly this website went up with grassroots efforts like yours and Mamapuma and Murphy. Now we have internatinal help from Trish in Canada and Delphine from France….Thanks to ALL the
PUMA’s. Let’s be good to each other….and keep a heads up on all that is happening.
#150 Maryland PUMA:
I thank you ever so much and I thank everyone here and everyone who helps out. I don’t think it is said enough, at least by me but – a big thank you.
MarylandPUMA,
THANK YOU!
Thanks to you and to Murphy and all great Pumas.
Maryland and All
If I lived closer to you i would come and make you chicken soup and let you sleep for a while. Please know that your efforts do not go unrecognized and will not go unrewarded in some capacity.
I myself have no children, but i do have a ten year old niece. And I’ll be damned if she makes it to US History in college and is not properly taught what transpired with the democracy of our country this year. This whole thing is far bigger then any of us. It’s scope is beyond any individual or organization.
If we succeed, We will be referenced in history along with Susan B. Anthony and all others who have faught for democracy. That will be a reward far succeeding money or wealth. If we do not succeed, We will still know that we did not sit back idly as the DNC tried to dictate the direction in which our nation should go. We will have done everything we could, which is a lot more then you can say for most people.
Now that i’ve stepped down from my soap box, I will end by injecting some humor and puma hope courtesy of one of my favorite movies, Mary Popins:
“Our daughters daughters will adore us, and they’ll sing in greatful chorus-Well done, sister suffragetes!”
zephyr,
I will do just that, respond to Tom Abrahams.
Great letter.
#150 Maryland PUMA
Thank you for everything you do … and for the background you shared today.
We all have to remember that we’re a group of individuals who came together with a common goal. We didn’t come into this as experts in web site development, political action movements, blogging, or any of the other talents we’re acquiring along the way.
We can’t be impatient or angry with each other for the expertise we lack. Instead, we must join together and support each other, each contributing what we can.
If this were easy, folks, Hillary would already be the nominee and PUMA wouldn’t have been born. Well, it’s not easy.
Let’s take a lesson from the great lady herself. No matter how hard things got for Hillary on the trail, no matter the obstacles she faced, she returned each day with a smile on her face and the solid determination to succeed not for herself but for us.
It’s our turn to give back. Let’s return to this blog every day with smiles on our faces and the solid determination to succeed for Hillary and the causes she champions. Let’s face every obstacle with the grace and wisdom that Hillary did.
#150 Maryland PUMA… Thank you for sharing and the personal insight.
Much respect.
I’m going to drink my Airborne, now. (::sniff::)
Maryland PUMA I honestly don’t know how you, Murphy and the others who make this site exist do it. I am a Mom too and work full time and it is all I can do to make it to the blog and catch up every few days. Thanks so much for all that you do. It really means a lot to me personally and also I think you are bringing about changes in the Democratic process. I always make time to leave flyers, cards etc and send letters and these are things I would not have time to do if it were not for all of you providing the ideas and energy.
Many folks who find their way here are appalled at what they see going on in our country and their frustration some times comes out at the wrong person.
re#160
Seattle Girl..
Beneath the cartoon satire on the cover of The New Yorker I believe lie some truths about Obama and his wife Michelle…
They are both ideological black nationalists who place black interests first and foremost in their lives..read their writings..it’s all there..
They both have a deep seated hatred and resentment of white(european) culture and civilization that they have tried hard to hide in order to fool the American public so they can get into the white house….crass clawing opportunists who will say anything and do anything to further their political careers..LIARS
They both attended sunday services for over 20 years listening to the racist rantings of their white hating pastor who in my opinion is one step away -if he could- to pressing the buttons on ovens with white people inside..SO WHO IS THE RACIST HERE??
I think the New Yorker magazine cartoon cover is clever and right-on about the TRUE nature of those lying phony Obamas..
They are dishonest people who are hiding their true ideas and beliefs from the American people..
3 cheers for The New Yorker Magazine..
#150 Maryland Puma…Thanks for communicating and clarifying to us PUMAs about yourself and what you do. You are AWESOME and greatly appreciated!! I am a boss at my office and I know how easily it is for me to be misunderstood by my staff. I always say that effective communication is the best means of resolution. We all need to stay positive and constructive with each other…everyone here is united by our common goal…regardless of our differences.
One of the main problems here that is causing such a disconnect is our inability to contact one another. And some of us, like me, do not like posting our email addresses online. And that is why I have been suggesting a FORUM format but in *ADDITION TO* a blog so that we can contact one another at will.
That, and the fact that FORUM software affords the ability to categorize information for easy access.
Another problem here is the inadequate WordPress Search… it only works inside the thread you are on… So I have suggested many times to add a Google search box… and if google is not the right way to go, then try something like PICOsearch found at,
http://www.picosearch.com/
They have a FREE version.
whew Pumas, now that sounding better. Sounds like every one is calming down. There going to talk about why Obama might not be giving his BIG SPEECH in Berlin, on the fox news network shortly, eastern standard time. I looooooooooove you guys, gotta go get busy PROUD TO BE A PUMA
Maryland,
Thank you! I honestly don’t know how you do it either. Your daughter will know what you’ve done someday and it will be a gift that will last her life time. There are days the just …well…there are days you just have to get through. You are greatly appreciated for all you do and please just take a breath. It’s going to be fine.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
PA4HILL.
Stop lurking, and re-join us
#150 Maryland
Thank you for your great effort. Truly this would not be possible if we didnt have people like you, murphy, pa4hill and alike. To be able to commit so much of your time and patience. It is so easy for us all to take this for granted, this takes a lot of behind the scenes work.
Thank you for all you do!
I too have Fibromyalgia, so give your mother my best.
During my superdelegate research, I came across a great site for use with our actions. My favorite quote by Donna Brazile, “No Voter Will Be Left Behind”.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/donna_brazile.html
hi PUMAs.
You still rock, but …
What the heck is going on with the Action Center?
That notice is still up. Someone really needs to change that, it looks bad.
PA Dem-
i guess that means she gonna tie a rope to all of us so that we are dragging behind the bus indtead of just under it!
what a 2 faced B
No voters will be left behind.
Donna Brazile
Maryland PUMA, I do read ever post everyday. Sometimes I post a comment and I know it’s being read. I am a 61 year old and this PUMA family has become my life. You are just fantastic in everything you do. I do not in any imagination know how you do what you do. I never would have guessed about your personal life and I think we all now need to understand and appreciate everything you, Murphy and everyone do every day for all of us. Please rest and know how much you are loved by all of us.
GROUP HUG
GROUP HUG
Obama will not be speaking at the Brandenburg Gate, But they are changing the location. which is under a statue of a roman godess victory. charles krauthammer said that the brandenburg gate is a location that you earn. he says what has Obama done? nothing. O i like this guy. He also says that the more the people see of Obama the less they like. O I really like this guy
I also like krauthammer. Yesterday I wrote to the editors of the leading newspapers in the countries that #61 is going to. I did this on gmail and cannot for the life of me figure out how to cut and paste anything on gmail to these comments. I really need to learn more about gmail.
I guess we must be roaring pretty loud since there seems to be posts trying to rile everyone up – break up our unity and posts with hateful remarks – BEWARE the Obamabots who we are obviously scaring and effecting.
All I can say is ignore the negative posts and keep focused on the mission!
Maryland and PA4Hill
Thank you both. We will never know how much you have helped us. And we are all trying to do what we can to continue to help Hillary.
PA4HILL:
I miss you, and not only because I’m in PA.
I want to thank everyone of you that have worked so hard to put this together. We ARE making a difference. I know that there are several that have worked especially hard and their rewards will be many!!
We are PUMAs, we don’t quit and we don’t back down!!!
PA4HILL08
Thanks for everything you have done.
Is the problem that you need more help? I will help and you can just tell me what you need if that will get you to change your mind. Please think about it.
Maryland . . . we may not say it very often ( or at all ) but you are appreciated.
Obama now has his speech planned for the “Victory Column” . . . why not Mount Olympus. Isn’t that where the gods descended from?
Pumas, I just want everyone of you to know,this group has gave me substance.I feel needed,complete,wanted,helpful,appreciated.and loved
we are a family,and we look out for each other.
To murphy and all who work so hard to make this happen,i thank you from the bottem of my heart.
proud to be a puma
I’m about to continue my e-mail,letter writing campaign to leading European Dailies as well as our retarded media pointing out ( what is obvious to all of us ) that Obama is a PRESUMPTIVE nominee SELECTED without the majority of votes cast. Have a grrrrrrreat day all.
* * * ACTION * * *
If you haven’t sent the Pelosi letter, please do!
If you haven’t sent the Pelosi letter yet today, now’s your chance!
Help ensure that Hillary’s name is PLACE IN NOMINATION at the convention.
See the letter:
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Hi Pumas,
Guess we’re not the only one angry with Dean. Found this posted at the DNC werbsite. Apparently Dean isn’t sticking to his get under the bus schedule:
By Democrat in Lacombe, LA Yesterday at 7:23 pm EDT
Well, late in the day, yesterday, we received the email from Gov. Dean that he would be in Hattiesburg tomorrow, with a given time. I registered that I would attend; I posted a blog on mybo.com getting the word out to the BO supporters in the Pine Belt and in New Orleans, the north shore, and MS in general
Then I made arrangements for extra caregivers to be available to stay with my 90 year old mother, canceled another appointment, and planned for my departure from Laurel, to be in Hattiesburg in time for the Register for Change bus arrival.
Now, I come in to the computer to check emails and I find a load of emails about the Dean Team bypassing Hattiesburg! There are many people who are not only disappointed, but, also feel betrayed by the people who are the Democratic Party bosses in this area. Rumors are rampant. Not nice ones, either. Just for the record, all Obama supporters will go anywhere to show support and to hear from our leaders about this election. To bypass us, at such short notice, is not nice, and furthermore, we are at the very least due an email of apology for the inconvenience and the facts of the matter! If you can send emails asking us to come, then, you better send us emails telling us that the invite is withdrawn!
We in the BO support group are planning to retake Mississippi back for the Democratic candidates, but, frankly, this omission just reminds us all of the business as usual of the movers and shakers, who control the yeas and nays, with glazed over looks at the voters, and dismissive assumptions without checking out the facts.
This is very disappointing. Well, Gov. Dean wanted a 50 states campaign, but, it looks like we, in Mississippi, will be doing it on our own! It is not the way to win voters!
Egg on our faces, and don’t bother asking for more support, we’ll stick to supporting BO and you guys can suffer the lack of enthusiasm for the remainder of the candidates running in November.
Shame on YOU!
You don’t offer Change; you offer superior pie in the sky!
Maybe you should enroll in My BO, and get with the program! We liberals come in all colors, sizes and styles! Can’t say the same for your group!
Grassroots supporters don’t appreciate volunteers who can’t get their messages out in timely fashion or not at all!
Goody for you to be on the bus, the bus that passed us by!
Carole Jordan
Laurel, MS 39443
Cosmeta
Your posts got flagged for mod due to the number of links.
I released them.
does anyone remember the trolls’ name we snagged the other night?
Maryland PUMA thanks for everything you do.
Same goes for you, and Murphy. If more help on the web side of things would ease the workload, get in touch and I will help as much as I can.
Morning Pumas MarylandPuma thank you for all you do…you too Murphy, I’m so glad to have this site here and to be part of a political action committee…If anyone has complaints about how this site is run can’t they just start their own???? This is bigger then those who are here it is about democracy. I choose to be here . My 2 cents
action center: FTP info??
If anyone has the ftp info let me know and I’ll change that message. It really does not look good. Anything would be better than that. The download links don’t even work.
Just emailed chairs of the DNC Rules Committee during my lunch break (can’t call from work).
Thank you Murphy and MarylandPuma and all our fellow hard-working PUMAs for all you are doing. We don’t ever thank you enough for your time and efforts and sacrifice.
PA4HILL08 please come back- I remember you from the HRC site and we miss you already.
M
a fellow PA PUMA Democrat voting McCain ’08
#1413 PA4HILL08 on 07.18.08 at 9:25 am, WROTE,
[[ I continuously sent messages to this blog to send me emails with news or video links or changes people wanted me to make, but I never received anything except from one person.]]
See, now, THAT’s a problem, and I defer to my earlier comment about us not being able to email one another.
I sent tons of YouTube videos to both Murphy and Sheila7puma thinking that they were the ones handling that aspect. Matter of fact, I sent my entire Netscape bookmarks…. And yes, I think I also requested that they either 1) use them as they will, or, 2) forward them on to whomever was in charge of videos. I have also sent many emails to DragonFly upon his/her request that I forward any good suggestions that I see.
So it’s not that any of us are not trying… we simply cannot get through to the right people. Either that or you/they are so over burdened with emails that no one has the time to respond and/or to act on them.
So yes… it is frustrating, especially when we do not get in any email responses or verifications, etc…
But no to, us not participating… because we are, each in our own way.
Then again, I can only speak for myself.
OK PA4HILL
, I’m going to have some 2-minutes noodle. I challange you to write a post before I’m done eating it 
#92 NotYourSweetie – rock on. Loved the link.
Another half person in Florida
Dragonfly
Hi Pumas,
Just wanted to see if anyone knows if it’s our tax dollars that’s helping to support the Messiah’s trip abroad. Isn’t it tax dollars that pay for his security staff overseas? Not only am I steamed about having to pay for any of this trip, but with the dollar so devalued we’re paying almost twice as much to for travel, food and lodging for the secret service guarding him. I think that’s outrageous and we should be protesting this unnecessary expenditure for an purely political junket!
Maryland Puma I knew from time to time you took the helm of this ship. (Puma’s do love you) thank-you for all you do. We are a family Pa4Hill was a fantastic Puma also. She did fantastic with the action site. It is not that easy to take care of a site and handle all the the problems with downs and she had enough of them this week Pa4Hill08 (Puma’s do love you too) Please come back.
I study web design. I use Visual Basic Web Developer to build interfaces I am not familar with Word Press or the blogging interface. I am retired and have time. You all look like you need a rest. I am volunteering my time to you. Please accept it.
I found an interesting list of people who are part of the “Friends of Hillary” organization.
http://www.nndb.com/org/531/000167030/
Hey Cosmeta – I have tried to always respond to all of your emails and pass them on.
The youtube links would be great on a favorites page, which we used to have. I am not blog savvy at all, so I feel helpless on some of these issues.
There are just so many things to do, so little time! Everyone’s passion is so wonderful and I get so inspired being here and reading and blogging with you all.
Please keep on emailing to dragonflypuma@gmail.com.
Dragonfly aka Heather in Florida
#207 StarDust – I think Murphy and MarylandPUMA have your email, but please email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com and I will make sure they both hear from you.
thanks!
#14 go_Ohio_Lady on 07.18.08 at 9:17 am
Who was in charge of the Puma PAC ACTION CENTER? I think that is one of the most childish messages I have read to date! (If I don’t get my way I’ll take my toys and go home!) Grow UP!
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Ohio Lady,
I usually keep my opinions off the blogs, but I feel the need to speek up. With all due respect, I think you were too hard on PA4HILL08. Please try to have some compassion for PA4HILL08. She has worked tirelessly and she deserves respect. She is obviously very frustrated and she let out some of that frustration. All of us Pumas work very hard and we sometimes do things that we might not ordinarily do. You may not agree with what I’m saying and that is your right. Thank you for reading my post.
Mary Jo
#206 NeverMore – agreed. Of course, since Obama has never developed relationships with our allies, I guess he’s playing catch up to our Hillary, who has had diplomatic visits in 81 countries or so.
What does he expect to accomplish there anyway????
maryland
are you referring to mathman223 or mathman233? can’t remember the numbers…that who you mean?
#199 PumaAllie – please email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com re: web help
thanks!
#196 antifish
Whoa, Dean tour imploding big time. It was a bad idea to begin with. BObots want to see BO not Dean.
#196 antifish – hey! loved the post
Just got back from the article on the PUMA’s listed above and there are such lies and vitriol there.. accusations of such meanness… i had to leave, no more … can’t take it anymore. The lies they are telling about Murphy and the PUMA movement are typical of O’s supporters, just without the foul language. My last post I asked them who was funding O’s European tour, the taxpayers of this country or Your money?
Off for the afternoon… much to do … gotta get my own life in order. Sister called and said my Mom may be going to the hospital as she is not breathing very good, … she is 87 will be 88 in September. My son is moving to Montana and I have to try to get ready for a going away party and maybe my Mom being in the hospital…. I wanted to leave you with a couple of websites to get some information from.
One is about narcissism (if some of you haven’t read it is great) http://samvak.tripod.com/faq11.html
The other i posted above: but worth repeating:
http:fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/the-great-obama-vs-obama-debate/
#198 Maryland PUMA
Think it was mathman something (some numbers).
I got it queen! Thanks. I wanted to give Christina a piece of information she could not refute nor delete. Go check it out on the Abrahams website.
He’s cute, by the way! (Abrahams)
check out #137 alohapuma’s link. thanks alohapuma!
Never mind……the stupid webpage timed out and the message is gone.
sigh.
#217 bmw60 – thank you for the links and good luck with your family this weekend. I hope your mother improves!
Gallup Poll alert!
Obama’s appeal seems to be shrinking at a rate of 1 point per day. Today’s gallup polls shows another 1 point shrinkage:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108910/Gallup-Daily-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx
Hopefully if this continues — McCain can take the lead before the convention.
Hi all,
AOL news has poll on Pelosi’s job performance, now at a 54% total failure (LOVE that), check it out, let’s make it way higher.
#143 zephyr-excellent response
I also wish to add my deep thanks for all the hard work that is being done by everyone who is running PUMA PAC. I also want to thank my fellow PUMAs who are working so ferociously and passionately for what we believe in. I enjoy the humor and silliness as well-that is a part of creating a community and I believe that that is what this is. Our focus right now is to ensure that S. Hillary Clinton’s name is placed in nomination at the convention. That is our short term goal and a critical one. But no matter what happens at the convention, PUMAs will have a tremendous amount of work left to do. Our long range goal is to radically reform the Democratic Party and the election process so this farce that we have been living through the last year or so does not happen again. To accomplish this of course we are going to have to harness all of the energy and focus of this community to work over the long haul. Indeed we know that the Democratic Party leaders have been disappointing us for a long time-just take a look at what Speaker Pelosi has managed to NOT accomplish since she has been in that office-that has been a deep disappointment.
Anyway every once in a while our tempers will flare because we know that what we are doing is historic and so critical for our time and we care deeply. But please take a breath or two before you write and send a blog to determine if what you are writing can be misconstrued in any way. Take care mpkrodham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOcU-BP0T4c
MO not proud but every other American is.
hey all. Sorry to see the ACTION Center go. But not to worry, we’ll have a new one up lickety-split. Remember, what makes us an effective movement is not that we are a website, but that we are a COMMUNITY. Thats what we are here, a group of citizens acting as individuals and uniting, relying on, encouraging, informing, and supporting each other here. That’s not going away. I’m still going to be here; You’re still going to be here tomorrow and tomorrow, and tomorrow. Some will leave , more will join, but we’ll still be here. So dont fret.we have work to do. No hard feelings, no recriminations Just ACTION and UNITY , our puma PAC hallmarks.
When Obama polls drop –we know we well get lectures on racisms and to leave his wife alone. The pattern is there. Look for Clayburn to speak out if his trip dosen’t him a poll jump.
Hi Pumas, finished calling the chairs, sent some emails, thanked tom for his article on us, blogged,on to a few other places as well. Going to stop now grab some lunch, take deep breaths.
Be kind to one another please, make Murphy proud.
XXX
Antifish liked your article. Dean tells alot of stories, does not surprise me in the least he will probably bypass alot of towns he is supposed to visit. Folks have hung out their not welcome signs
Ok – whipped it back out there again.
Something she can not refute now.
email sent Dragonfly.
I don’t want to get into the details of fall outs, but I just want everyone to get on, and will do whatever it takes to help.
115 Maryland Puma-maybe a bloodhound!
152-Hi Trish. I have greyhounds, they would not be under the bus, you’d be driving them around in the bus!
Friday, July 18, 2008 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 44% of the vote while John McCain earns 42%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 47% and McCain 46% (see recent daily results). McCain is viewed favorably by 56% of voters, Obama by 55%. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day. State polling released earlier this morning shows a toss-up in Virginia. Data released yesterday showed close races in Nevada and North Carolina while McCain leads in Arkansas.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
#222, #223…Great poll numbers….I hope they continue in the same direction!! I for one do not think that BO’s trip to the Mid East is going to do anything to up the polls…I think most people are getting his number!!!! Empty suit..no substance!!
Maryland Puma: Who do we email news links/other info for an upcoming Action site?
Pa4Hill08: Thank you for all the effort you put in to the Action Site.
*dances* I found a fax number for Donna Brazile after an HOUR of researching her. Did you know she teaches Women’s Studies? Or that she is part of Friends of Hillary?
pa dem
She (Donna Brazile) is the one that had the insights to Hillary and you can bet she gave all she knew to Obama’s campaign!!
Charles Krauthammer’s article today in The Washington Post is the best written ever on Obama. Please everyone go read it and when appropriate use it whereever you can. The Times-Picayune here runs his articles. Their headline over his article is even better than that of the Post’s:”Ich bin ein narcissist”
Regarding another item: Right now Howard Dean et al are polluting 3604 Canal St in New Orleans. I am sick and could not go over there to protest. It kills me not to be able to do that. But I will continue to protest in ways beyond this Showboat antic of Dean. More pollution will be coming again soon here in the person of Mother Superior Pelosiwho once again will be down here pretending she is doing something for our city re Katrina effects, which are still large regarding infrastructure. Both of these lieing power mongers think they can squeeze more registrations out of New Orleans…Only if they sign up the 12,000 illegal aliens here. Polls indicate McCain way ahead of Obama in this state. And she says Bush is a failure? What a hypocrite.
What has she done since she has been Speaker except prepare to go get some rhinestones to put on her gavel to rule her obedient little group of incompetents at the convention.
Look Pumas, we cannot implode now. We must continue to continue to act and to act together as well as individually. I thank everyone of you on this site for every single thing you do. To be a part of this group is truly noble and right! Onward to the convention and beyond. We have a despot to defeat!
#209 Dragonfly on 07.18.08 at 1:05 pm, WROTE,
[[ Hey Cosmeta - I have tried to always respond to all of your emails and pass them on.]]
I wouldn’t know if you did or did not, to tell you the truth because I never got in not one response from you, so it’s either your mail server or mine. And I check my spam folder every time I get in mail.
I do not use gmail for this website, but will use my telephone company primary address when I email you, so they should go through… so I cant understand it.
Whenever I have given out my aol email address, that becomes somewhat more complex for me because I have aol5 on this pc and aol puts lots of stuff in a spam folder which I cannot access on this pc. I have to use one i have XP on that has aol9 on it… but the problem is, I only open that machine about once a week.
Thanks for the reply…. It is good to know that you are receiving in my emails at least.
For all you Mary Poppins fans, this little song was sent by one of our members to the Southeast Region Puma PAC address. Enjoy.
*Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious*
He’s been in the Senate one hundred forty three days
It only took one google search to learn his twisted ways
For such little experience he’s really quite precocious
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
He said white folks are clinging to their bibles and their guns
Then he turned around and said that statement was a pun
Every time I hear it I still think that it’s atrocious
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
Gave Hillary the finger and brushed her off just like Jay-Z
Still he doesn’t have an or-i-gi-nal policy
He’s stealing her ideas and it really is atrocious
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
Is he an American or was he born overseas
An actual birth certificate is all we really need
Maybe he is Russian or perhaps he is Laotian
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
They’ve tried to ram him down our throats but we just say no deal
We’re taking to the streets so people know just how we feel
If he gets nominated it will really be atrocious
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
Say it to your Obot friends to really sound precocious
He is making me drink so much my liver has cirrhosis
Supercallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious!
copyright Stuart Asbel 2008 all rights reserved
Deans Meets PUMA In Texas
Welcome to Crawford, Howard Dean
Howard Dean might have gotten a bit more than he bargained for today when he jumped off his bus this morning in Crawford to launch a multi-state Democratic Party registration drive. The first person he met was Guila Jackson, who demanded that the party put Hillary Clinton’s name into nomination at this summer’s national party convention.
“We want a nominee who’s elected, not selected,” she said, gripping Dean’s hand as he sought to get away. Jackson’s part of a pro-Hillary group, PUMA – Party Unity my Ass. http://countusout.wordpress.com/
got a Copy of an email a puma rec’d from a super delegate in which she admonishes us for pushing for a roll call vote. She said Hillary would lose on a roll call vote and then she’d be embarrassed.
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what is this, a sorority support society?
I thought this was a democracy!
guess what numbskull, whenever there’s a vote, somebody LOSES! Sometimes it’s very embarrassing.
Shut down or prevent a vote because whoever loses might be EMBARRASSED?!?!
who are these people and WHY are they in charge??
Good afternoon~
sorry I’ve been gone so long having computer & monitor problems~
Just letting you all know, Ifinally caught up on my puma actions~
I also want to thank so many of you who’ve been keeping me up to date and to those fellow pumas who work so tirelessly on all the aspects of our site~
Hi Murph, stay safe & be careful~
Will try to get back daily again soon~
My PUMA FAMILY,
I try to avoid posting at work but felt I had to today. Growing up I remember more then one fight I had with one of my brothers or my sister. I remember storming out of the house over something my mother said to me. I barely spoke to my father for almost 20 years over something stupid. Today I call my dad about 4 times a week or he calls me. We get on line and play cards together. I have helped my younger brother and his family with their mortgage more then once and have lent my sister money for a downpayment on a house. I am not telling you these things for praise or to brag but to show that as a family we grew stronger even with our differences. At one point my older brother had it arranged that if needed his kids were to go to my partner and I to be raised. That was many years ago. We will not always agree and we will have our feelings hurt but the love and goals of a family always finds a way to work things out. We must respect and believe in all members of our family in order to grow stronger and achieve what we want to. It is up to each and everyone of us to take the high road, allow for alternate views and to keep an eye on the big picture. With all that Murphy and others have to do I would hope they would not have to use valuable time trying to calm a family spat. We also know that our sight is visited by many. Some for us and some who want to see us fail. We do not need to give them any help in trying to discourage our site. So my friends let’s all take a deep breath and come together as one.
#197 Maryland PUMA on 07.18.08 at 12:53 pm, WROTE,
[[ Cosmeta
Your posts got flagged for mod due to the number of links.
I released them.]]
Yeah… I am aware of the WordPress limitations on links… I should have deleted that last line, but in my hast i forgot… Sorry…
My feeling is that PA4HILL has been a very important element in this PAC and done some outstanding work in getting the action center up and turning it into quite an impressive feature for us all.
I don’t think it’s fair to criticize her without trying to understand why she has taken such a drastic step. My feeling is she probably was at her wits end, or she wouldn’t have done things the way she did.
So, I propose that instead of losing a committed and dedicated PUMA, we address the issues that have led to her frustration AND that of others who may have left for the same reasons she expressed.
As we grow we need to make some adjustments. It’s imperative we do this as smoothly as possible.
PA4HILL. Please come back. You have done a wonderful job and I, for one, am very sorry you have felt such frustration.
Maryland Puma, Mamapuma, Murphy.
I am also very grateful to you all for all the hard work, dedication and commitment you are all putting into this site and this PAC. I know you all have busy lives and many important responsibilities in your own private lives. You are all deeply appreciated and valued. Thank you all for all your hard work.
Murphy, AMEN
Democracy is a process! Sometimes its messy. Get over it! This isn’t the Academy Awards ceremony. This is a critical decision about our future and our children’s future.
I think the global media-age has given this country an identity crisis! Everything is supposed to be pretty and if it isn’t; SHAME on someone. Good grief.
July 18, 2008
The Audacity of Vanity
By Charles Krauthammer
WASHINGTON — Barack Obama wants to speak at the Brandenburg Gate.
He figures it would be a nice backdrop. The supporting cast — a cheering audience and a few fainting frauleins — would be a picturesque way to bolster his foreign policy credentials.
What Obama does not seem to understand is that the Brandenburg Gate is something you earn. President Reagan earned the right to speak there because his relentless pressure had brought the Soviet empire to its knees and he was demanding its final “tear down this wall” liquidation. When President Kennedy visited the Brandenburg Gate on the day of his “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech, he was representing a country that was prepared to go to the brink of nuclear war to defend West Berlin.
Who is Obama representing? And what exactly has he done in his lifetime to merit appropriating the Brandenburg Gate as a campaign prop? What was his role in the fight against communism, the liberation of Eastern Europe, the creation of what George Bush 41 — who presided over the fall of the Berlin Wall but modestly declined to go there for a victory lap — called “a Europe whole and free”?
Does Obama not see the incongruity? It’s as if a German pol took a campaign trip to America and demanded the Statue of Liberty as a venue for a campaign speech. (The Germans have now gently nudged Obama into looking at other venues.)
Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself.
There’s nothing new about narcissism in politics. Every senator looks in the mirror and sees a president. Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?
Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted “present” nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.
It is a subject upon which he can dilate effortlessly. In his victory speech upon winning the nomination, Obama declared it a great turning point in history — “generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment” — when, among other wonders, “the rise of the oceans began to slow.” As economist Irwin Stelzer noted in his London Daily Telegraph column, “Moses made the waters recede, but he had help.” Obama apparently works alone.
Obama may think he’s King Canute, but the good king ordered the tides to halt precisely to refute sycophantic aides who suggested that he had such power. Obama has no such modesty.
After all, in the words of his own slogan, “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for,” which, translating the royal “we,” means: “I am the one we’ve been waiting for.” Amazingly, he had a quasi-presidential seal with its own Latin inscription affixed to his podium, until general ridicule — it was pointed out that he was not yet president — induced him to take it down
He lectures us that instead of worrying about immigrants learning English, “you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish” — a language Obama does not speak. He further admonishes us on how “embarrassing” it is that Europeans are multilingual but “we go over to Europe, and all we can say is, ‘merci beaucoup.’” Obama speaks no French.
His fluent English does, however, feature many such admonitions, instructions and improvements. His wife assures us that President Obama will be a stern taskmaster: “Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism … that you come out of your isolation. … Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.”
For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?
We are getting to know. Redeemer of our uninvolved, uninformed lives. Lord of the seas. And more. As he said on victory night, his rise marks the moment when “our planet began to heal.” As I recall — I’m no expert on this — Jesus practiced his healing just on the sick. Obama operates on a larger canvas.
#241 murphy on 07.18.08 at 1:38 pm
where can we read this email? Is it cosmeta’s?
#171 Firebelle Puma – thank you for being such a great voice on the blog! You never fail to inform, encourage, and inspire.
#148 luckyann on 07.18.08 at 11:56 am, WROTE,
[[ sorry, cosmeta I didn’t read your whole post. could you at least say which SD? I’d like to know if I emailed him/her too…]]
First name, Patti and that’s all I will tell you.
#245 BrooklynNY – I agree with what you wrote. I am trying to reach PA4Hill08 to understand better and I hope help.
Thanks # 225 MPK…and love your post talking about going beyond even this election cycle. I am committed all the way until I see some REAL reform.
For those who want to: the ABC Tom Abrahams article on Murphy needs comment from PUMAs…lots of bots out there.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
REposting my commment from above….
Just responded to Tom Abrahams piece….
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Dear Tom,
Thanks for writing this piece. I have followed this election like no other…very closely and in the process became very passionately involved. Leaning Democratic, I wasn’t sure initially if I would vote for Obama or Hillary Clinton. Being a 59 year old white female, I wasn’t going to necessarily vote for a woman just because of that factor. I actually was glad to see an African American candidate. I live in a wonderful community that is comprised of 70% African American young professionals.
In the beginning of the primaries there didn’t seem to be much difference in policy between the two candidates, so I watched closely what they were saying. As time went on I began to see Obama’s arrogance, elitism and condescending tone emerge…everything from “You’re likeable enough Hillary” to his infamous “clinging to guns and religion”. Then it was Rev. Wright and the shady characters he had called friends or mentors…too many to mention. I do believe you can judge one’s character by the company you keep.
So I began supporting Hillary online and donating to her campaign. The blatant media bias against Hillary became evident. Obama refused to debate Hillary on several occasions. I got tired of hearing him talk about the one antiwar speech he gave when he wasn’t even in the Senate to vote for it. I became outraged at Obama constantly calling Hillary a “status quo” candidate when he consistently paraded out status quo endorsements. So hypocritical. I began to worry that this country might even elect this rock star like candidate with a razor thin resume.
Next there was the entire issue of the Michigan/Florida votes. I tried to look at it from both sides, but came to the conclusion that any Party rules that DISENFRANCHISED voters was simply unjust and undemocratic. Obama kept silent to keep his pledged delegate lead…not a very admirable thing to do. Hillary kept winning PRIMARIES and supporting either a revote or full vote status. The DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting was a joke. I began feeling like my vote doesn’t count and why even vote at all. The heart of democracy was at stake here.
The day of the South Dakota primary was a fiasco. The media reporting superdelegates possibly putting Obama over the top before the polls closed was a travesty of a just primary process. Voter supression is not allowed in my rulebook. Later I learned more about caucus fraud and more and more about Obama’s shady Chicago political tactics.I became incensed and righteously indignant…NOT bitter and angry.
I joined PumaPac the day it started on June 3rd. I had enough of the injustices. At this point, it doesn’t matter to me how many people cry Unity. It doesn’t exist. The DNC created this mess and have “selected” a left wing liberal who changes his mind on policies faster than I can read to keep up with them. He does not pass muster in my army. He doesn’t live up to any criteria in my view of what a leader of the free world or Commander in Chief should be. He does not represent me. IF Hillary does not get the nomination, I have no problem voting for McCain. I am more concerned about this country’s CHARACTER than whether a particular party is in power. Our DEMOCRACY is in jeopardy.
One final note. I have wondered all along how in the world Obama has raised so much money. He has repeatedly said 90% is coming from small donations or is it donors? There is a difference. If it is donors, then the 10% could be large sums from bundlers, from overseas (as I have heard) and from what I can tell he is not willing to release the info to the public. Yet he claims to be a candidate of transparency in goverment? If I was a reporter I would be all over that one.
Thank you and hope to hear from you again on PUMAPAC.
Zephyr
Posted by: Zephyr | July 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM
#243 gay guy – Here, here. thank you.
Bruce 5555 if that was you over at the Tom Abraham article…you rock.
#242 gokimfrommichigan
What area in Michigan are you from? It’s my home too..
#251 Dragonfly
Thank you very much for replying to my posting. I am very glad to hear you are trying to contact PA4HILL. If there is anything I can do, please let me know.
Patti? yes, I think I emailed her too…
#238 cosmeta – I haven’t received one from you in a long time so maybe there is a technical problem? anyway, my email is dragonflypuma@gmail.com
#241 Murphy
Amen.
I thought the same thing. I want to tell that delegate that if he/she is so sure that BO will win and Clinton will lose, then they should have nothing to worry about by proceeding with a democratic vote for nomination.
#255 kat~
I’m in southeast MI. approx. 20 min. this side of Ohio border~ where are you?
I know we’ve got some feather smoothing to do here. This is taking a toll on a lot of us. I don’t think anyone expected this take off like this. Breath. Step back. Hold it at arms length at look at it.
#235 pa dem
give me a minute to set up an email account that will be solely for that purpose that both murphy and I will have access to.
#255 kat~
opps forgot Newport~
#259 mzebest on 07.18.08 at 1:50 pm
the truth is that if anyone will be emberrassed by a roll call it’s Obama, even if he should win in the end.
Murphy & Marylandpuma,
You know I really appreciate both of you. Just to let you know I sent all of the videos and pictures from Crawford Texas yesterday to Will Bower and asked him to post them there so everyone could see them.
Also I received a phone call from Guila Jackson (the other puma that was in Crawford) this morning and I thanked her for her support and all she did.
One last thing…I purchased the Waco newpaper this morning and my interview is in it. If I can’t find it online then I will retype it for you.
I mean it’s even emberassing for him if he wins not that he will definitely win.
gokimfrommichigan & Kat – StarDust here I’m from Clarkston Michigan
#211 MJE4HRC, your opinion is respected by me. However, if you read my question: Who was in charge of the Puma PAC ACTION CENTER?, I did not know that is was PA4HILL08, nor does that matter. The fact still remains that you don’t intentionally do something that will upset thousands of others when there is a better way to resolve an issue. I know PA4HILL08 from the Hillary web site and this web site and the contributions from PA4HILL08 are outstanding but we are all working toward the same goal so sometimes it’s better to walk away from a situation for a few days and then come at it again will a clear mind. Thanks for reading this, I’m off my soap box now.
How presumptious ! Obama’s camp sent a wire to Fox news saying “he would not be making any foreign policies while he is in Iraq….” He isn’t offically the nominee and he’s acting like he has the crown or something! He is so full of himself it makes me ill…He is taking a barrage of media with him. I so hope he screws up!
#150 Maryland Puma
You get nothing but praise from me! I’m not part of the flack, not even sure when or where it began. Just know that I do not know how you do it (or Murphy either) all, and I am most grateful for all that you have done and continue to do. Hope the PUMA family remains intact and strong!
#232 greytdays
I love greyhounds, I smile so much whenevr I see one.
I was making light of the thought that in Canada we have a bus service called greyhound. Sometimes my jokes are only funny to myself. But they do keep me laughing for most of the day. Like right now.
HI PUMAS,
I AM NO LONGER RECEIVING ANY ACTIONS OR ALERTS OR DAILY ACTIVITIES TO DO, I RECENTLY OPENED A YAHOO ACCT JUST FOR PUMA STUFF,CAN ANY ONE HELP ME?
Thank you Murphy! Truly I mean that, sometime I feel like a broken record about my voice in Michigan being silenced, but it a cut that has hurt me very deeply. I can never forgive Obama betrayal to me and the rest of the voters who had turned out in record numbers in support of her. NEVER
I am writing to Super Delegates and I am a part of the workforce that has organized under TrishfromCanada. Being as anguished as I am about this I am letting every Super Delegate I know how I feel. Here is the paragraph from my letter to them informing them how I feel.
Another reason that I say that this man is unelectable is because I am from Michigan. Contrary to what you may believe we are not happy that Obama had removed his name from our ballot to silence our voices. We want to elect a President that will fight to represent the voter’s but instead he chose to ignore us and sided with the DNC rules and party leaders. I voted for Hillary and I would like my vote along with thousands of other Michigan voters, votes counted. We are here, like it or not- we do exist and because of us Hillary did win the popular vote.
… and here are the paragraphs addressing the second issue to vote for her on the ballot to meaningfully make her the nominee
I think for the good of the party that Super Delegates should be standing beside this woman, and not against her. Contrary to what some may have told you she is not divisive. She has a very good heart proven by her many causes for humanity that she has championed. She is a woman who deserves to be our nominee, and she is the one who should be president.
Show the party that Hillary is the one and cast your ballot at the convention for her as our democratic nominee.
Stardust! Glad you are here….Michigan, huh–so sorry about that outcome…I have to take a stomach pill after picturing Obama making foreign policy! Hold on…….
254 alohapuma
yup, it was me, thanks, you do too,
more power to us and to our cause
#267 StarDust~
Hi Stardust, I had a running list of Puma’s from Michigan {we had about 50}but when we had the severe storms here my computer went down, then monitor fried and I lost some.
Murphy and Maryland Puma, all I can say is; “Oh to be 39 again.” I would have to hook up an IV to you two to be able to keep up. Your energy and support are outstanding, thanks for being the energy for us “seasoned” ones.
#269 one4all
Not to add fuel to the fire but read #247 – the Krauthammer article. Obama’s ego is just limitless…Krauthammer forgot to mention Invesco Field…
# 264 luckyann
“the truth is that if anyone will be emberrassed by a roll call it’s Obama…”
Oh I totally get that… that’s why I want to challenge them to a fair nomination and roll call since I’m not afraid of the outcome… but I would use the pretence that if they are confident of the outcome then they shouldn’t fear a fair vote… correct?
I posted this the first few days I joined PUMAPAC in early June relating to Hillary.
I just want to post this again because it now reflects my feelings to so many leaders in our “family”.
“She not only saw the light at the end of the tunnel, she became that light”
We MUST support them and each other.
Bruce,
Notice how they have nothing to say when the pathological narcissism is mentioned? They drop that one like a hot potato…which it is:)
Is the person who ran the Action Center really an Obamabot? What an immature and embarrassing statement. Kinda reminds me of O saying he and MO wont be the same after this so they HAVE to win this time.
Some people need to get real and grow up.
#263 gokimfrommichigan
I live in Blissfield. I think you are near Monroe?? There is one other person I found near us in Toledo. Are there others out there? Would love to get together and plan…
Dear Pumas,
I got a delightful invitation from David Plouffe this morning, asking me to join Obama’s “Listening to America Platform Meeting.” Here was my reply …
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Dear David,
You have great timing this morning. I very much want to help shape the future of the Democratic Party. I very much want to share my thoughts on the issues that are important to me and my community. I very much want to be part of the historic movement to change politics in American and break the wall between government and the American people.
That’s why I joined PUMA PAC and am actively working to keep Obama out of the White House. You ought to think about joining us. It may not cure the disease that has invaded your brain, but perhaps joining us will at least lessen the symptoms of delusion you’ve been suffering from for so long.
#239 antifish-love the mary poppins reference.
goanderson , Billiejo, roxyincali
Go to the meetup -then check out the message board and look for the Seneca Falls Convention info, so we can party with the Hillary look alike. She is a little stiff, but I know you will warm up to her. Zachary’s pizza and cocktails.
#279 mzebest on 07.18.08 at 2:00 pm
yes, we shouldn’t tell them obama will be embarrassed because that does sound a bit like we just want to damage the nominee and wouldn’t convince them…
I’ve been out all morning and just started reading the posts. Also about our Action Center, very disturbing. I will make my calls and send-the e-mails today.
#77 you typed the e-mail wrong.
#272 tennaseepuma.
Hi, just send maryland an email
This is the main problem with regard to our every attempt to be heard as dismissive and it is part of some research I did at the end of June and placed in an email to superdelegates.
In part it reads:
” am well aware that the “Democratic Selection Process” is a process by which pledged delegates cast their vote during the Convention to be held in Denver Colorado near the end of August. “I am also aware that in 1982, the Hunt Commission recommended and the Democratic National Committee adopted a rule that set aside some delegate slots for Democratic members of Congress and for state party chairs and vice chairs.[6] Under the original Hunt plan, superdelegates were 30% of all delegates, but when it was finally implemented for the 1984 election, they were 14%. The number has steadily increased, and today they are approximately 20%.” (See, Wikipedia, Superdelegates). ”
Now here is the problem as *I* see it. Every year since the creation of the “Hunt Commission” the number of superdelegates has steadily increased, and if we do not voice our concerns and allow for a POPULAR VOTE based on a legal national primary system, (for example something that would require an amendment to our Constitution), then with ever successive year, WE THE PEOPLE will have less and less of a voice in this great Democratic Republic of ours.
http://www.people.howstuffworks.com/political-convention.htm
Page 1 of a 5 part series.
#282 MountainSong, NO! PA4HILL08 is not an Obamabot.
one4all & gokimfrommichigan & Kat
Hey everyone- Michigan is a mess because of Obama. I don’t know how anyone from here could vote for him he did us here a terrible disservice.
alohapuma
I almost feel sorry for them and I think most of them are paid.
#282 MountainSong on 07.18.08 at 2:01 pm
I think we should be a bit more understanding…because some of the “grow up and don’t take your ball and go home…get real” posts sound a little like what obamabots say to PUMAs
From Will Bower:
Announcing: PUMA CONFERENCE 2008
Marriott Wardman Hotel
Washington, D.C.
August 8 – 10, 2008
Dear PUMAs,
The 2008 PUMA Conference Committee is ready to ROAR with these incredible conference deals! For the amazing (and we mean that sincerely) price of $250, you will receive the following:
- Lodging at a FIVE STAR hotel – the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel in Washington, D.C. for THREE nights (Thursday, Friday and Saturday)
- Breakfast on Saturday and Sunday.
- Lunch on Saturday.
- AND it also includes the price of the conference itself.
Mind boggling, crazy good isn’t it?
Registration will open tomorrow at 12noon PST at:
http://www.pumaconference08.com
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW:
After the first 250 people register at the $250 price, IT IS GONE. As we are under tight time constraints with the hotel for numbers and commitment at this time, once you register there will be NO refunds. (Please reread that sentence before you register.)
1. YES we have a registration offer if you’re local or not planning to stay at the hotel. If you would like to attend without the hotel room, the price is $150 (or if you aren’t one of the first 250 to register).
2. YES we welcome vendors. If you would like to have a “vendor table,” you may do so (we reserve the right to determine if your organization is a good fit). We have 30 slots open for $100 per table.
3. YES we need sponsors. If you’re interested, please email us immediately at PUMAConference@yahoo.com.
4. YES you will have an opportunity to volunteer – you can do so during the registration process.
5. YES we are still working on how folks can participate via the internet and radio. Details will follow late next week.
Email us with any questions at pumaconference@yahoo.com.
READY? So are we! Meet you in D.C!
~ PUMA Conference Committee
Y’all, Will earlier said that if you have to choose between this and Denver, to choose Denver. But I thought you would all want to know about it if you aren’t already on his mailing list.
ROAR on!
breaking news, from Just Say No Deal
http://pumaalliance.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/pcpc-pre-convention-puma-conference-announcement/
Announcing: PUMA CONFERENCE 2008
Marriott Wardman Hotel
Washington, D.C.
August 8 – 10, 2008
Dear PUMAs,
The 2008 PUMA Conference Committee is ready to ROAR with these incredible conference deals! For the amazing (and we mean that sincerely) price of $250, you will receive the following:
- Lodging at a FIVE STAR hotel – the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel in Washington, D.C. for THREE nights (Thursday, Friday and Saturday)
- Breakfast on Saturday and Sunday.
- Lunch on Saturday.
- AND it also includes the price of the conference itself.
Mind boggling, crazy good isn’t it?
Registration will open tomorrow at 12noon PST at:
http://www.pumaconference08.com
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW:
After the first 250 people register at the $250 price, IT IS GONE. As we are under tight time constraints with the hotel for numbers and commitment at this time, once you register there will be NO refunds. (Please reread that sentence before you register.)
1. YES we have a registration offer if you’re local or not planning to stay at the hotel. If you would like to attend without the hotel room, the price is $150 (or if you aren’t one of the first 250 to register).
2. YES we welcome vendors. If you would like to have a “vendor table,” you may do so (we reserve the right to determine if your organization is a good fit). We have 30 slots open for $100 per table.
3. YES we need sponsors. If you’re interested, please email us immediately at PUMAConference@yahoo.com.
4. YES you will have an opportunity to volunteer – you can do so during the registration process.
5. YES we are still working on how folks can participate via the internet and radio. Details will follow late next week.
Email us with any questions at pumaconference@yahoo.com.
READY? So are we! Meet you in D.C!
~ PUMA Conference Committee
Will Bower & Deb Barnes
PUMA
http://JustSayNoDeal.com
#250 cosmeta
There is only one Patti as a superdelegate I am assuming it is Patti Higgins from Alaska.
239 antifish
love the song!!! I actually sang it, and with my voice, glad no one is around to hear me
#284 Firebelle Puma, another funny response, LOL
@176 cosmeta…see you are so intune with all this web stuff, and most of us aren’t. But you get it, my problem is the same, ..if I want to respond I have to get your # and name..go to the bottom of the thread, and skip everything else so that I can write you before I forget what I wanted to say in the first place!!!
Also, I have to get out of the thread to find out if anyone responded to my question or if i want to follow the thread…get what I mean?
alapumacat—–OMG his nose is so far up I hope a bird poops in his eye! Give me 30 min for meds to work before you throw another one like that my way!
I gotta get busy on action site–Been cleaning all day…I will be back!
#283 kat~
yep your right monroe is a mile up the road~LOL
I have
Emma in Ann Arbor
Kim in Grand Rapids
Michiganhalfvoter in Saugatuck
olderthandirt in Rochester Hills
fiscalliberal in Troy
windy in Hudsonville
alee21 in Ann Arbor
Stardust in Clarkston
you in Blissfield
& me in Newport
we have others that dont have access to computers from Bloomfield Hills,
Grandville,
Wyoming
Taylor
I had a few emails but lost them all~
#296 TrishfromCanada on 07.18.08 at 2:07 pm
yes I think so too…I’d like to email her about her comment but I would have to tell her that I know about her email and I don’t know if Cosmeta wants that.
bruce
They are terribly misguided. The thing is when this bubble bursts, most of them won’t want a thing to do with the political process. Obama’s handlers are doing tremendous damage that will take many years to heal. I sort of feel sorry for them too.
Thanks Ohio Lady on PA4Hill08 – y’all, we just have to stick together, as so many wise PUMAs have been saying this morning. Do not channel energy into attacking other bloggers – just keep trying to get the SDs and the DNC leadership to do the right thing:
Hillary on the ballot for nomination
Roll call vote on the Convention floor
Focus
and
ROAR! Screamin’ Dean ain’t got nothin’ on us.
Your loyal Dragonfly Rodham Puma
#289 cosmeta
Great points cosmeta… way to go.
#301 gokim – so glad to see you again!
#239 antifish – loved it! Mary Poppins is one of my all time favs.
#306 Dragonfly~
Glad to be back even if only for little everyday~I was literally going through Puma withdrawels~
302 and 296
lucky and Trish – why don’t we just incorporate the notion into our general correspondence? Say something like there is no reason for a roll call vote not to be taken, that both candidates received many popular votes and that the people in the United States want to see how the process will be resolved. I am not sure whether to directly address the embarrassment point – other writers better than I can perhaps speak to that.
StarDust on 07.18.08 at 2:06 pm one4all & gokimfrommichigan & Kat
Hey everyone- Michigan is a mess because of Obama. I don’t know how anyone from here could vote for him he did us here a terrible disservice
YES HE DID!!! and it’s up to you and people like you to get the word out. Write to your Governor, (a wonderful lady) and to your Senators and let them know how unhappy you are with this “empty suit”
dragonfly,
Have just sent you an email
Subject: Testing, testing, 123 / COSMETA
Just testing to see which one of our email servers is not responding to us.
Please reply to this email as soon as you can.
Thanks
To all you extraordinary PUMAs – I stand in your shadows!
Maryland Puma – you have made me cry this morning. I am so sorry if you have been hurt by reckless words. Please know–that many of us are in awe of you and MamaPuma and Murphy and the many ladies and men on this site who contribute an incredible amount of time and love to this movement. I could not do what some of you do, but I have learned so much in the last six weeks, from good souls here.
Maryland Puma – hope you and your daughter feel better real soon. Drink some Gatorade–not Kool-Aid.
Today I have been frustrated to learn that we are being maligned in print over words that may or may not have been expressed by a true PUMA. We usually step in and address personally what might have sounded unseemly when they occur in blog time, but some things do get through.
So, I got off my tail and did about a half hour on the elliptical to get my blood moving and thought–wait a minute! This article by Tom Abraham (sp?) is part of their fighting us. It’s just another lure to bring out discord, to make us argue with Obamabots on line. It makes them feel better. What aggravates them most is disinterest in their views.
Maybe we are all just stressed that we keep giving and searching and pounding–it expends energy–tons of it, but results are appearing. The very fact that the articles in Real Clear Politics today exist and verify what WE’VE been saying for weeks is a very good sign.
———-
antifish – love the song. Thanks!
———
#139 alohapuma – We DO have the right to civil dialogue here…that’s how we are unveiling our own inner motives and question ourselves and refine our positions.
We nourish each other.
——–
#228 – sandtraps – You’re right–it’s just bait for us. We can walk away.
Murphy’s post today was excellent as usual. Did I miss something? Are they now saying that they will not put Hillary’s name in nomination, and have a voice vote on the floor?
I just finished e-mailing every delegate in Pennsylvania.
I thanked the ones that supported Hillary. I ask that they continue their support at the Convention..
To the ones that did not support Hillary, I ask why they did not vote as their constituents wanted them to. I ask they reconsider and vote for Hillary at the Convention.
To the ones that are still undecided, I ask them to compare the records of the two candidates. I then ask who they would want answering the phone in the White House at 3:00 a.m.
I canceled my membership with NOW when they did not support Hillary. They still sent me an e-mail crying about that “awful” cover of the New Yorker. They wanted me to write to the editor and complain.
I told them I enjoyed that cover. I ask where their concern was when Hillary was on the cover. I told them I was disappointed in their lack of support for Hillary.
I told them that my goals were not theirs…
Now I must contact the members of the D.N.C. as Murphy ask..
Have a great day fellow PUMAS.
Bonnie
=^..^=
#308 – gokim – I KNOW that withdrawal feeling! I lost my internet at home and tried to distract myself with a crime novel during my sleepless hours when I really wanted to be at my office computer blogging away!
#302 luckyann and TrishfromCanada
I vote to email the SD (who deserves to be embarrassed for sending such an email). That’s my vote.
#301 gokimfrommichigan
Would any of the southeast Michigan PUMA’s and nearby Ohio PUMA’a want to get together? I am ready to take on more actions!
#309 Dragonfly
I think its a great idea, as you say no need to address the e-mail, just provide Patti with e-mails to keep her busy, maybe then she won’t have time for such nastiness, when she has to reply to a hundred or more e-mails. Like punishing a child by having them write “I will not talk in class” 100 times; sooner or later they do not talk out in class.
#241 Its called cover your a__! Murphy, save your energy she not worth it (only her pull is) and she not doing her job! Empty political achievers are a dime a dozen….we will just have to go another route. What makes this person a super delegate?
Loved the song Anti. In fact I copied it to e-mail to those family and friends who are still speaking to me.
I may just e-mail it to those who aren’t as well.
#314 Dragonfly~
LOl yep my daughter brought home J.D. Robb, Koontz and more along with diapers for the grandbabies~
#161 LOTTS1948
“Well Said”
Drop in more often. THink you have good things to say and present them well.
#301..gokimfrommich…
i use to live in Mi., a small city called Garden City. You need to spread the word…Of all the states, who should be the most upset with this BO..is Michigan.
I think you people in MI. should really demand to be counted and allow to be recognized at the convention. It’s time to Stand up!!
#311 cosmeta – no email in my inbox from you yet. I hit refresh . . . not sure how long to wait before I say it is a no go.
try emailing me at hfl2810@yahoo.com
Rock on Michigan Folks,
your fellow disenfranchisee in FLA
Dragonfly Rodham Puma
# 310 Mary Beth613
I have been writing my little paws off. They tend to want to ignore, us like everyone else. It’s a shame when the American voters mean nothing to the party anymore.
The voters have spoken lol Here is Patti’s e-mail:
patti@alaskademocrats.org
Let’s send her some good ole PUMA lovin`
Hey folks, there is nothing difficult about putting up a new action center. Some of it is a dash of artistic appeal and all the rest are just links to files. I built and update a website for our students at Cal, so Murphy if you want help on the Action Center, I can help you. I work full time and have been helping Trish, but PUMA is worth my time.
Another thing, as far as I know most of the posters, cards and fliers were made by different PUMAs, so most of the ‘content’ is still available.
Pass me an email if you need help with this.
Hi PA4HILL08!
Still undecided if or when you are going to come back here? I can help you on this one
. Please do … because we miss you.
#316 kat~
I would love that~I lost their email addies when my computer went down but maybe Murphy or mamapuma can send our email addies to those so we can connect~
unfortunately with the humidity I cant go out during the day only late night and early mornings~I go back to work Tues if doc says i can~ I work midnights and get off between 7:00 & 7:30 a.m.~
This one is for Antifish and the AWESOME Mary Poppins.
Donation amount: $75.00 USD
Total: $75.00 USD
Purpose: Denver, ADS, whatever
Recipient information
Donations coordinator: Puma PAC
Contact email: murphy@pumapac.org
“Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism … that you come out of your isolation. … Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.”
~~Michelle Obama
Just who the hell was she talking to, anyway? (MountainSong scratches head)
hey greenfun! thanks for contributing!
Hi everyone,
I’ll contact the DNC’s committee chairs as soon as I’m done with this post.
I had a chance to read some of the previous posts and had a couple of comments.
Re: trolls and possibly racist comments
If someone makes a comment that I view as racist I say something on the post blog or write Murphy/MarylandPuma directly about it. More often than not if someone states something that I find objectionable I totally tune them out. There are hundreds if not thousands of posts here and in other blogs and if a paid BO blogger thinks they can come in and kill a movement with a lame post they are demented. What a waste of time and money for the BO campaign to fund these people Maybe they should spend their campaign funds more wisely. I don’t go on blogs because I want people to tell me what to do/think (with all due respect to Murphy and everyone else). I decide on issues on my own and come here to discuss or hash out those views. Just because BOs people apparently do everything a T.V. commercial/media tells them to do (for ex., vote for BO) doesn’t mean everyone else is that way.
Re: possibly changing my mind and voting for BO
I would never do it, even if Murphy and a everyone else who runs these kinds of blogs told people to do it. Sorry, but this man (BO) will do great harm because he is not mentally stable (seriously, I think narcissistic personality disorder is a real thing..O.K., I’m not a psychologist, but I read about it somewhere). I know I will get some flack for this, but I don’t understand how any woman (or man who respects women) could vote for him. I think it says a lot about our society that so many are wiling to overlook all the sexism spewed by the DNC/BO campaign in the spring. We are an ailing society and not just because of the racism that still exists, but because of the prevalent sexism and elitism. Every racial/ethnic group has to do some soul-searching in this respect.
Re: action center problems
They don’t bother me. People disagree and things are usually quickly smoothed over. Hope that happens in this case.
Have a great day,
Lara08
#322 Mary Beth613~ I know exactly where Graden city is my younger brother owns a tatoo shop there~
gokimfrommi.PUMA@charter.net
331 MountainSong
She’s talking to the recruits. Textbook cultism.
# 316 kat
I wish I could but I cannot go far, because of a lower back injury. I think it would be great for all of you to get together and maybe, you can get me in with a conference call or something. I would love that.
One4All – Isn’t it just unf….believeable that BO acts as if he is already the president of the United States? “He’s not going to make any foreign policy while in Iraq…” He can’t make policy….he’s still a junior senator. He wouldn’t even convene his subcommitte on foreign affairs. He can talk woulda, shoulda, coulda, but he is NOT the president.
I’m going to go bang my head on the wall a bit.
#323 Dragonfly on 07.18.08 at 2:22 pm
[[ #311 cosmeta - no email in my inbox from you yet. I hit refresh . . . not sure how long to wait before I say it is a no go.
try emailing me at hfl2810@yahoo.com]]
Trying it NOW
SENT
sometimes depending upon our Server’s Email service and anti-virus software there can be a considerable delay, because it is put into a holding bin of sorts.
Still, I doesn’t answer the question as to why YOUR email is not coming to me. And THAT’s a problem… so i am wondering if it is google.
keep posting to me… we will figure this out together.
# 324 Dragonfly
Oh we Michigan people could never forget Florida and they did it to you twice. It is just awful.
#332 Dragonfly-It is my pleasure. I am thoroughly enjoying our Puma movement. It is so nice to have some place productive to direct my frustration with this BS election cycle.
#309 Dragonfly
Excellent suggestion.
285 greenfun
Do you have a link?
#326 TrishfromCanada on 07.18.08 at 2:24 pm
ok should I now tell her about the email or just generally write about a roll call? but I guess that would be a bit odd because I emailed her yesterday about the convention…(she didn’t respond)
Hi PA4HILL08!–I have no idea what happened -not my business but please come back and add your energy to this site again-there is always going to be disagreements in a community this size-makes it livelier!-with respect mpkrodham
yes it was mathman
I remember cause I blew off the handle for his post the other day
TREEPUMA
Lin4Hill, You got that right… for some reason they think it’s in the bag…Wonder who giving him a guarantee? Dean? The Chicago syndicate? Oh yea I forgot…He is the annointed one—–ugh………………
I just found out about the action site-went there & read it–so sorry guys, she has given so much to us…I hope she is okay!
Maryland Puma–you’ve been ill? Please take care of yourself!
Hi goandersen~
checking out for a few—Mr.one4all is home&wants attention….kids!
#343 luckyann
I’m sending her an e-mail about the placed in nomination
goanderson
http://hrclinton.meetup.com/129/
hi all just checking in from work. Maryland, I hope you and the cub feel better soon. If you need help just let me know, I will do what I can. By the way, I sent an email for the midwest group and never got a reply back
I would still like to help in that area too. Oh well, keep up the good work everyone, we need to stick together now more than ever. See you when I can sneak back on.
Dragonfly,
Got it…
But now I cant remember if I ever just deleted you out as spam because this email came with your first and last name in the header.
So maybe i am the culprit—hey!
I think it was here last week or so that we had all the cable news and tv email addresses ..cnn.com etc. Does anyone still have them and would you send them to me? I want to send something out to them
Thanks
#150 Maryland PUMA
You are dedicated to PUMApac.
You are dedicated to saving our Democracy.
You have my admiration, respect and gratitude.
dragonfly…
strike that last post…
I got the one from your YAHOO address.
So it is probably a google error.
MarylandPuma: mathman??
“does anyone remember the trolls’ name we snagged the other night?”
mathman
Did anyone hear on Hannity last night that Bo blasted Fox and him for negative press (Ha) and that would bring his popular numbers down…
One4All – “in the bag” and that’s the part that bothers us the most. Just what do they know that we don’t? What is their grand plan? What levers are they pulling, chads are they hanging, data boards are they corrupting? They truly come across so self-assured in this–like it is a done deal.
and then I wonder….remember a former blogger who said the Bush Administration had something “big” they were sitting on…just a rumor?
and then I remember when I USED to watch Bill Mahr (never again) and he had the actor from Law & Order SVU–name escapes me right now–used to also be on Homicide–so this guy is on Bill Mahr a few months ago and said that, “If Hillary gets the nomination, Rupert Murdoch is ready to release a mountain of information that will destroy her candidacy.” All this rumor-mongering….
What we are fighting for here is bigger than Hillary, though that’s the big piece of pie for me. It’s lifting those veils so we can all see what’s happening in our country. Make us honorable again.
I hope that all these teething troubles will be solved.
In the meantime
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#329 gokimfrommichigan
I will see what I can do to try to get us all together, I will contact Mamapuma. Michigan really needs to be heard, I have been upset about this for quite a while! Let’s get rolling on this!!!
Has anyone seen the job performance of Pelosi on aol news? She is being rated at 54 % total failure!
Gore’s Energy Speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idlJDcr669o
#327 BillieJo
PA4HILL explained in a posting at the end of the previouis thread that all the content from the Action Center is still available, resting on the server. Murphy or whomever is in charge of that sort of stuff can get it from her.
I really don’t think it’s appropriate to pass judgment on what happened or didn’t happen until we have a little more information. We weren’t in PA4′s shoes and we don’t know what happened. I really think it would be nice if we exercised a little tolerance here. PA4 has been taking care of the Action Center since it went up and now all of a sudden, she’s a troll? That really seems incredibly unfair.
antifish,
groovy!
great posts on the Tom Abrahams PUMA passion article post!
347 GoKim
Hey there. I have been lurking and reading all that has been posted. Just re-grouping here. All is well.
Google may have put a spam block on any email containing the word puma or puma pac either inside of a subject or inside the content box.
It might be google blocking all your emails.
Try sending and recieving from one another the way Dragonfly and I just did using another email service and also avoid using the word puma. See what happens.
MARYLANDPUMA
Didn’t we (or rather you) catch troll by seeing a post on another site?
Been over reading the emails to Toms article.
Anyone else been over?
an alternative way to contact superdelegates
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/last-stand-email-initiative-for-puma.html
goanderson-If you are having trouble with that just send me an email- pumarizz at gmail dot com
Thanks all for your concern.
I said it before, but put it on another thread.
PA4HILL was not a troll. She joined PUMA PAC from HRC site – I used to read her blogs all the time but, well, like most of you could never get a post on.
Let’s leave the discussion off the blog and let Murphy handle it.
StarDust, Dragonfly, Kat, one4all, TrishfromCanada. Michelle47 and any other Puma’s from Michigan & surrounding areas local area’s~
Some of us are close enough others are not here’s my addy gokimfrommi.PUMA@charter.net I’ll try and collect the email addies of those of us who are close enough to get together~
#356 DWP
Thanks. I gave Christina what she wanted on Abraham’s blog – proof that we are frequented by trolls.
That was a FUN night! LOL
If your emails go through, then try it through google again minus the word puma.
Next,
Try using the one that works, but this time place the word puma someplace in your email. If this is the carrier that you have not been using, chances are it should go through because they did not have a history on you for spamming.
But,
It does not mean they cannot place one on in the future.
Guess that’s why so many people use hotmail and then create a new address every few minutes.
Ah well—
My hosting company has a limit as to the number of emails I am allowed to send out per each minute. And I also have a time frame for checking emails via my Eudora email. Also, try using Microsoft’s Outlook Express.
PA4HILL
Come back and post, even if you don’t feel like doing the Action Center anymore, it’s ok. Sometimes things do get too much. It’s totally understandable.
We still appreciate everything you have done and want you to stick around and just leave that for now if you aren’t comfortable to continue with the AC. Thanks for everything and you have already done great things!
FULL MOON RISING!!!
Go light some candles and switch gears!
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc
# 364 goandersen
Hey goandersen, hurry and get yourself regrouped so you can come back and (Growl!!) I haven’t seen you for a while
#360 kat~
Thank you Kat~
#369 Maryland PUMA
Sorry didn’t see your post till after you posted that. You’re right, probably best to just leave that discussion now for in private.
Greenfun, Goandersen, Roxy, LandiPUMA
I tried contacting Mae to get your address for the meeting and only got an email saying I needed to go to another website that offered a lot of boxes to check off, I did. Now I get all this email from lots of people I don’t want and still no address for you Greenfun. There has to be a better way. No wonder people don’t show up if you can’t find out where it is.
Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am working on the database and also doing work for my job so not checking the blog much right now.
#369 Maryland PUMA
Glad to hear that Maryland PUMA. I do sincerely hope the issue gets resolved soon and in a way that PA4 feels comfortable returning to this site. I am not impressed with the rush to judgment and condemnation I’ve seen here by some of my fellow PUMA’s. To me, that’s not what we’re all about. If it is, then I’m in the wrong place for sure.
PA4HILL is NOT a TROLL she is from our old HRC site and blogged there under a differant user name, she has been instrumental in keeping the action center up & running.
PA4HILL please come back~
Maryland is my right-hand puma. She speaks for herself and I support her unconditionally. Perhaps I dont say this often enough, thank you thank you to every single puma PAC member.
374 StarDust
Got any extra duct tape? LOL! I am working on it.
Is it true that BO will not be speaking at the Brandenburg Gate! That is a win for the anti BO folks – us. Why aren’t we celebrating here today?
FULL MOON RISING!!! Please pay attention to how the Full Moon effects you!
Go light some candles and switch gears!
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc
PA4HILL…I have always enjoyed your posts and the time and energy you have given to Hill and PUMA. I don’t have any details on what happened, but it doesn’t matter. You have done a tremendous job and the time and energy you spent made a difference to us PUMAs and villagers, etc. Look through the blog and you can see that.
Feel free to lurk . Take a few days. Will see you back next week.
DaddysDarlin
wonderful post on Tom Abraham’s article –
just wondering, are we being distracted here?
should we be following up on what happened and questioning the caucus process?
We know there was fraud, is anyone following up on that,
is there anything I could do?
# 383 goandersen
Duck tape, weren’t we told to Duck tape our doors and windows if we were under nuclear attack.
Silly government (Duck tape) as if that would help
PA4HILL
I second what #386 CTKEY has just said above. I am looking forward to your return whenever you chose to come back. You’ve done a great job with the Action Center right from the beginning and I appreciate your efforts.
Trish from Canada-
You’ve got mail.
Murphy or MarylandPUMA,
I guess I should be asking you this,
I was just wondering, are we being distracted here?
should we be following up on what happened and questioning the caucus process?
We know there was fraud, is anyone following up on that,
is there anything I could do?
Omg….I just got an email from the Indiana Dems…..seems Evan Bayh drank the kool aid…..wants a contribution from me…..of course I sent back my standard answer…..I will not contribute a dime to go to the o campaign …ever….and I will remember in November….and I would never contribute to the Indiana Dems…with Rudy Clay still chair of Lake County, also I guess they did not hear…I am now a registered Independent. ……and a PUMA
#384 BigCatLover on 07.18.08 at 3:08 pm Is it true that BO will not be speaking at the Brandenburg Gate! That is a win for the anti BO folks – us. Why aren’t we celebrating here today?
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lol yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I’m listening to the stray cat strut and thinking of you all.
#239 Anti . . . now you’ve got me going:
He traveled all around the world and everywhere he went
The folks who didn’t know him said;” there goes a clever gent”.
You’ve got to watch him carefully; he’d like to change your life.
Cause when you get to know him you’ll find him as cold as ice.
OH . . . stupidcallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
I came across this article on how BO is attempting to obtain a fast and furious education on foreign policy. The total article is worth reading, however, I only posted the first few paragraphs. A total fo 300 people, some pulled from HRC (sounds as if by forceful nature) and then compares to McCains only 75. NYT did forget to mention that McCain has been arond for awhile, probably has a set of connections, etc. It just seems an omission to possibly look to BO’s favor. Anyway, it does suggest where a great deal of his campaign money is going…….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/us/politics/18advisers.html?_r=1&th=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&emc=th&adxnnlx=1216407857-s8z/I4sPngEXbvXbuIyHsw
‘A Cast of 300 Advises Obama on Foreign Policy
WASHINGTON — Every day around 8 a.m., foreign policy aides at Senator Barack Obama’s Chicago campaign headquarters send him two e-mails: a briefing on major world developments over the previous 24 hours and a set of questions, accompanied by suggested answers, that the candidate is likely to be asked about international relations during the day.
One recent Q. & A. asked, for example, whether Mr. Obama supported the decision by Iraq’s prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, to include a timetable for American troop withdrawal in any new security agreements with the United States. The answer, provided to Mr. Obama with bullet points, was yes — or “a genuine opportunity,” as he put it in a speech on Iraq this week.
Behind the e-mail messages is a tight-knit group of aides supported by a huge 300-person foreign policy campaign bureaucracy, organized like a mini State Department, to assist a candidate whose limited national security experience remains a concern to many voters.
“It is unwieldy, no question,” said Denis McDonough, 38, Mr. Obama’s top foreign policy aide, speaking of an infrastructure that has been divided into 20 teams based on regions and issues, and that has recently absorbed, with some tensions, the top foreign policy advisers from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign. “But an administration is unwieldy, too. We also know that it’s messier when you don’t get as much information as you can.” ‘
300 people with a net result of two emails a day. I bet those messages contain a mass of confusing points of views on daily talking points…….
#382 murphy
Well said Murphy
393 Trish
I am celebrating. I just sprayed my bo pic!
is this a plan on words are is it true ?
According to the DailyKos
[Governor Dean] put to rest the rumor perpetuated by an ad campaign, that Hillary Clinton would not be on the ballot at the DNCC in Denver. Clinton will be on the ballot and will speak at the convention–the DNC rules are clear on this. In relation to this, he talked about the importance of fighting back against these rumors, of answering the inflammatory e-mails with the truth.
393 TrishfromCanada
Thank you Trish. I thought we were supposed to brag here. Everyone who wrote the German govt and media, thank you.
Hi everyone,
I’m still at work but just want to remind everyone of one thing. We talk about how Michigan and Florida are only half people. Don’t forget that those of us in Texas who couldn’t make it to the caucus for various reasons, like myself who had to work, are only 2/3 of a person. Just like with Michigan and Florida, the fact that my vote wasn’t fully counted sticks in my craw and I’m not soon to forget that.
goandersen– great to see u — thank u for all yr behind the scenes work!
blogging from my iPhone at wash natnl airport. I can fly for free, but only on standby so I got bumped from the 3 pm flight.
theres no wireless here!
Spent the day holding a sign in front of the Lincoln memorial. This town NEEDs the voice of the voters. Big time.
# 400 MuchAdoAboutSomething
Oh good Lord you brought up a very good point. The DNC was just slicing and dicing every which way to get THEIR Math to add up
401 murphy
I am a prowler at heart.
You are very welcome. “It takes a Village”
#394 mpdamon,
That’s great!
Just to clarify, I did not write the song. It was emailed to us and I thought it was worth sharing.
#398 prowlland
Another win for us? Dailykos saying what we want will happen and is the truth. Ok, is the earth tilting in our favor? Are we being heard? I hope so.
Murphy and Maryland Puma… you’ve got mail!
Brian Williams information about upcoming trip to Europe with Obama:
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/exclusive-brian-williams-writes-home/
#393 TrishfromCanada
Me knowing the words to Stray Cat Strut, Knowing who the Stray Cats are & owning that c.d. I guess dates me HUH…LOL
#398 prowlland,
Wow, that’s great news! If it’s on Cheetos, it’s probably true they are pretty much in the loop with the DNC. Maybe texassherry and her cohorts got to him yesterday in Crawford? LOL!
He’d like to run for President because he smiles a lot.
The people that support him we call Obamobots.
He thinks that we’re like sheep and calls all women “sweetie”.
But when we’re through with him then he’ll sue for a peace treaty.
OH . . . stupidcallousfraudulisticexploitallidocious
I even find his promises to be quite suspectocious.
He doesn’t keep them long enough to be believiocious
he’s stupid, callous, fraudulistic exploitallidocious.
Must be the full moon.
Ok all have to run & start dinner before the grandbabies get home~
You all have a great evening & be nice to each other~
Hey guys…just coming in to make sure you are all aware of Tom Abrahams’ article! Please come post! First thing I saw, after I wrote my long, long post, was a comment accusing us of being racist and says someone in here ended a post questioning Obama’s campaign funds with , “and he’s Black!”
Now, granted, I haven’t read this mornings posts, but I instantly said this was an outright lie. I hope I’m right!
LOL, anyway, if you haven’t been yet, come on over and get to posting. Oh, also, I spent some time in my post explaining that not all PUMA’s are PumaPac’ers. but all Pac’ers are PUMA’s…well, you’ll see.
hello to all pumas from the great state of texas. i read this blog daily because most of my time is indoors. i am a black american female and i will never vote for obama. i don’t think he has any respect for women. the DNC made a liar out of me because i told my daughter she could be anything she wanted to be even president of the USA.
Pa4Hill
yes please do come back, I do know how you feel, a couple of weeks ago or just last week , anyway I was branded a troll and it hurt, very much, but I did come back because this site is a wonderful place, so please will you come home?
TREEPUMA
mpdamon,
You’ve missed your calling. You should be writing songs.
#362 BrooklynNY
I said nothing negative about PA4hill. I hope she comes back to the den, with or without the action center.
I was only offering my help with the website to get things up and running.
I agree, let Murphy handle it.
I couldn’t begin to remember all the names of PUMSA that I admire….Murphy-you are awesome–Maryland PUMA–Incredible @the least,maybe a couple of my e-mails slipped thu but I knew you are always busy giving of yourself- so unselfishly and now I understand more. Antifish–you are so appreciated! PA4Hill….You gave us a way to voice ourselves! we owe so much to all of you!—-
Poor Moveon = toothless at 10
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/moveon-is-10-and-toothless-already/
#412 Hi notanegghead,
Welcome!
I wish the DNC had let this go to the convention and not forced Hillary out. I just keep asking why? It makes no sense to me.
My thoughts on the ACTION CENTER etc:
I was certainly shocked and dismayed when I saw that *notice* when I clicked the link for the Action Center! I had been thinking of suggesting that the link to the Action Center be more prominent (higher up) on PUMApac’s home page… and then I see that the whole Action Center is gone!
I don’t know much about Website creating, though I’m starting to learn, but… may I suggest that whatever new Action Center page is created in the future, that it be totally part of Murphy’s PUMApac website; run and “owned” by Murphy. I’m not saying for Murphy to do all the work… various volunteers can commit themselves to maintain it, update it, even ‘run’ it… and different people would regularly contribute to it. But it would be an inextricable part of the PUMApac website.
That way if someone gets “upset” and wants to pull out (for a while or forever), the whole Action Center doesn’t all go down.
As for PA4Hill having asked for contributions (links to videos, articles, etc) in a post in the past and not getting much response (only one person?!)… One of the reasons might be because important posts can get lost within the hundreds in a thread. I’m guessing that people here tend to start reading from the top, and then when they check again later in the day, from the bottom up… so, a little advice to PUMA heads: try to get the important info in at the beginning (the top) of the thread, and then re-post it at different times… Also, use headings, or topic lines at the top, in bold or ALL CAPS… use different devices to make info stand out (this is also good advice to all posters).
Another thing… like someone else said in this thread, sometimes I’ve been a little unclear about who is the best person to email to regarding certain suggestions or matters to.
Finally, I do hope that PA4HILL08 hasn’t left us and will continue to be a part of PUMApac in whatever degree of involvement she can manage. She’s been a valuable contribution to PUMApac and I’d hate to see her go, even if she doesn’t want to continue with the Action Center.
Also, thanks a million to Maryland PUMA for everything you do and have done for PUMApac and for taking the time to tell us your story!
Mmmm…I see I need to ‘catch up’. Sigh* Hello and welcome to Not an Egg…:) Very glad you’re here. We all agree 100%!
K, going to read now.
#411 Kerri,
I’ve left a couple of comments over there today. To include one on our being called racists.
Hi anti . . . I just love a pun. Hard to stop when I get going. Oh well, back to the e-mails. Keep well all.
#412 notanegghead ,
Welcome fellow Texan and Puma. What part of Texas are you from? I am near Waco.
“I suggest that whatever new Action Center page is created in the future, that it be totally part of Murphy’s PUMApac website; run and “owned” by Murphy. I’m not saying for Murphy to do all the work… various volunteers can commit themselves to maintain it, update it, even ‘run’ it… and different people would regularly contribute to it. But it would be an inextricable part of the PUMApac website.”
Amen to that!
#412 howdy back…Spring here…sub of Houston
the magical 0 tour is starting this weekend.
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN1819664920080718
Hillary Clinton’s backers could pay down her debt (Delaware News Journal) 7/18/2008 4:26:44 AM
MIKE TO HOST FETE FOR HILLARY (New York Post) 7/18/2008 4:04:38 AM
WomenCount PAC Shifts Focus from Clinton to Issues (Yahoo! News) 7/18/2008 2:59:21 AM
DeLauro, Clinton seek act ending disparity (Connecticut Post) 7/18/2008 1:54:31 AM
Obama A Feminist, Sister Tells Tampa (TBO.com) 7/18/2008 12:11:44 AM
Hillary Clinton Blogs
on the Web
HRC2012, Legit Netroots (NY Observer – The Politicker) 7/18/2008 2:17:13 PM
Parker, Felder Both to Speak at Brooklyn Breakfast (NY Observer – The Daily Transom) 7/18/2008 1:27:34 PM
Hillary Clinton Buys 2012 Website!! (Outside the Beltway) 7/18/2008 1:02:26 PM
Olbermann ‘Never Even Suggested’ Clinton Quit Race (NewsBusters) 7/18/2008 12:26:39 PM
Bill Clinton ‘Is Ready’ to Campaign for Obama (Daily Intelligencer – New York Magazine) 7/18/2008 10:28:33 AM
Hillary Clinton Video
on the Web
Patti Solis Doyle Sees Similarities Between Clinton, Obama Campaigns (NBC 5 Local Video) 7/17/2008 8:17:55 PM
Michelle Goldberg & Rebecca Traister: I-Told-You-So Edition (BloggingHeads.tv) 7/14/2008 10:52:29 PM
Clinton Speaks at Teachers Convention (CBS2 WBBM Top Stories Video) 7/12/2008 7:16:09 PM
Hillary Clinton Audio
on the Web
Poll: Obama winning over Clinton backers in state (LA Daily News: Local) 7/17/2008 4:04:17 AM
IMHO, please, been there done that with the conflicts…troll, this n’ that, etc. We either want to deal with the tasks at hand or we don’t.
Take a deep breath, we have lots of work to do. Don’t mean to be preachy or judgmental.
#412 notanegghead
Welcome notanegghead (like your id) Love TEXAS!
Come and get involved with us, we have a lot of fun and we get a lot accomplished.
We need the person who was working so hard on the Action Center. It is a lot of time and effort to do the kind of job that was being done. We all appreciated it. However as in all new computer applications there is some clumsiness in the usage of it by the ‘users’. They are just not that good as the creators at the technical stuff. I relied on emails for actions – did not know that the Action center wanted suggestions. Don’t let this go away. We need this site and these actions –Come back but make it easier for those of us who are not so great at this blogging but have some really great ideas-Privacy is paramount-threats cannot be tolerated by anyone.
I agree with Landi. Whatever form the Action Center takes in the near future, it should belong to Murphy. We can not have all our efforts thwarted because one person becomes disgruntled.
That said, PA4Hill has contributed more to this effort than many of us and I truly appreciate everything she did. I’m not happy with those here who suggest that she was a BO troll. That is just not true. I hope she comes back and rejoins our cause.
As Murphy says, let’s be good to one another!
Three things:
First: It is being reported on the news today that Dean got an extremely cold reception in Texas and was altering the rest of his trip schedule because of it. One reporterd that “things are not looking good Obama’s southern unity and new voter efforts”
Second: The Daily Growl is now being sent to my “Spam” folder. This is the first time that has happened.
Finally: My g-mail is acting up and telling me my emails are non-deliverable again when I try to send today’s letter. Am I being reported as a “spammer”.
Is anyone else having trouble today with g-mail?
If it’s true… little do they know I’ve been called a hell of a lot worse by BO supporters! Once you’ve been called a “racist Hillary bitch”… “spammer” sounds like a big promotion!
I’m switching to my other mail server to send the letters.
TexasSherry: Kiss you and Mr. TexasSherry for us! You rocked and apparently helped to knock Howie down a knotch or two!
Hopefully, we’ll be hearing that he’s hanging on to the bumper on the back home!
Hello Pumas! I wanted to send this along to you in case you haven’t seen it yet:
Texas PUMA met Howard Dean!
“Howard Dean might have gotten a bit more than he bargained for today when he jumped off his bus this morning in Crawford to launch a multi-state Democratic Party registration drive. The first person he met was Guila Jackson, who demanded that the party put Hillary Clinton’s name into nomination at this summer’s national party convention.
“We want a nominee who’s elected, not selected,” she said, gripping Dean’s hand as he sought to get away. Jackson’s part of a pro-Hillary group, PUMA – Party Unity my Ass.”
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/welcome-to-crawford-howard-dea.html
(Click Link. Post Comments.)
Have a wonderful day, all!
Pa4Hill
Come on back, we all here are very protective of our goals. I don’t know what happened but I know you from other sites.
Let whatever it was go and focus on our goal – NOBAMA in the WH.
Boy BMW60 – they were sure trying to beat you up over there at Tom’s site!
You were wonderful with rebuttals.
As usual they were just accusatory and not able to substantiate anything. And yet they fight ,
sandi,
Hi. Where did you get this?
Hillary Clinton Buys 2012 Website!! (Outside the Beltway) 7/18/2008 1:02:26 PM
K, I’m going to read and respond to posts as I read, apparently. From the bottom up. Hope that’s ok.
LandiPuma: I agree with you. In everything you just said.
To Pa4Hill:I am sorry if you asked for contributions and did not recieve any. Personally, I’ve stated before that I don’t spend too much time on here, if I can find PUMA work to do. I would LOVE to hand about here, it’s so friendly and supportive and restorative. Yet, I feel that making sure I get out the information to as many of the public as possible is some vital work. Therefor I tend to come here once or twice a day, at least, and do my Growls inbetween. This usually takes me about 5 hours a day, that’s AFTER my normal life, and I am usually quite “done” by the time I sign off. I have, numerous times, given my address on here and invited any Puma member to contact me if, at any time, they think I might be able to assist them. Getting at me through email is definitely a way to get a response, whereas, as LandiPuma mentioned, in blog it might not be seen. (There are even some days I don’t come on!)
I realize you probably weren’t thinking of me at all and don’t mean to make it seem like you were or should have been. I’m just saying that I feel badly if you felt let-down in any way that I could have tried to prevent. :/ I firmly believe that EVERY PUMA member is worthy of true admiration and that you ‘leaders’ (I say those of you who’s names are always up here for ‘doing things’ are leaders) garner that much more respect. We all lean on each other and I know that I personally, lean on you guys who ‘do’ to help me do what I do more efficiently. So, THANK YOU for all the work you’ve done. As well as all the work you shall continue to do, whatever role you choose to take as a PUMA. And, again, in the future, if I can be of any service, even just an ear to vent on, please feel free to contact me via email.
Murphy: SO GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN! We were missing your pink posts fiercely last night! To see you were standing around holding up a sign makes me smile as you were indeed involved in something Positively Puma as I chose to believe and all is well with you.
K…back to reading.
cosmeta:
I received a similar message from Patti. She also suggested to me that PUMA PAC is “an undercover McCain organization.”
Needless to say, I am currently drafting a response.
Unheard American Voices published a new entry entitled “Emails FROM Obama Supporters to One of Hillary’s Strongest by smh” on 7/18/2008 8:58:51 AM, written by A Silenced Voter.
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Emails FROM Obama Supporters to One of Hillary’s Strongest by smh
Read the disgusting email responses from Obama supporters to one of Hillary’s Clinton’s Strongest supporters overly riddled with disgusting vitriol. A revolting look at the average Obama supporter although, considering some of Obama supporters were phoning during the primary from countries such as Pakistan and other Middle Eastern Countries, one has to wonder if all these emails are from the United States. After all it would take a real fool to believe his donations are all from the United States. American elections are being disrupted and wrongfully influenced by citizens of the Middle East.
What disturbs me is their utter lack of knowledge about the actual truth of their candidate. Their in ability to recognize racism for what it is and their willingness to tolerate racism from a black man simply because he is black.
Not only are the blind to any genuine truth, but they are full of disgusting attacking thug like behavior.
My wife has experienced this herself in person. When she was cornered by 3 very large men and told she needed to go do some gardening and leave obama alone or her family would be missing her, I seriously had more than minor concerns. Yet, the truth is the truth. Honesty is honesty. Racism is racism. Right is Right and wrong is wrong. We have a duty to stand up, to continue our fight for our country and our candidate.
Join the Electability Watch TODAY!
A HONEST view of Obama Supporters in their own words……………..
blumnrose@aol.com to rrl3333From what I understand, Repubs on the ground don’t exactly want to deal with you and those like you. They know you are all crazy and obsessed. You are ignorant, obsessed, a fool, and like a rabid dog. Robyn Rosenblum
lifestring@aol.com to rrl3333
Your disdain for Senator (soon to be President) Obama is obviously fueled by his color/race. You have no African American friends. In fact, you hate, with the deepest reserves of your soul, black people. Were Hillary an African American your vitriol would be following her. As long as it’s black you’re not having it. Sad. Sorry soul. I wish you the peace you’ve never had… The joy of doing good in the world instead of the ugliness your heart and soul display. Ask your friends to send you letters (anonymously) telling you how you might improve as a human being. I guarantee you will be shocked. They are afraid to tell you the truth to your face.
Sincerely,
R Bell
Your anti – OBAMA illogical rants betray the deep seated racist mindset that is your guiding light. You and Joe LIEberman are unpatriotic Israel first Zionists. Your agendas are so transparent. The fools and their money did not win the day.
Danielle Kleinman wrote:
OMG! You’re 61, that explains EVERYTHING! Your generation is EXTREMELY racist so now I understand why you are so supportive of Hillary…..
SLIVY@aol.com to rrl3333
Dear Ms. Lieberman,
You are an idiot. Hillary will not get elected in this election and probably not in this lifetime. No offense to Hillary. John McCain won’t remember he is President if he is elected, and the country will land in the toilet. Wonderful Jewish legacy.
Just goes to show that money does not lead to intelligence or good judgment. Please resign from the Democratic Party and work for whomever you please.
Allan Brauer
Hillary called. She said to let you know that you are embarrassing her in front of her country, and asked if you would be so kind as to stop bothering all the superdelegates. They have complained that they are frightened by your unhinged and insane rantings.
I know how hard it has been for you to fail to get what you wanted for the first time in your long and privileged life, but you need to let go of your dream because it’s dead. Robin Bryant to me You are a disgusting democrat. You might as well label yourself repug…you have to make us women look bad by acting like a fool scorn. Get over it or if you can’t shut up..
Jerry Udo
after reading about your hatred and jeleousy of a black man being the future president of america,i made a donation to his campaign. the more I read of your evil, the more our support of Obama gets stronger. You are truely racist and evil. I hope God judges you the way you have judged Obama.
shitball Your behavior is frightening, and shameful.
dthom403@hotmail.com
What you are doing to Senator Barack Obama is beyond disgraceful…. Stop the selfishness. Be Mature and stop whining. You can’t have your way this time. Daddy’s money will not save your whining ass. Grow the hell up.
hope3333@bellsouth.net to rrl3333
…you are a very unhappy lady. And, I shall pray for you.
alba j to rrl3333 alba1234@gmail.com Go fuck yourself..
I am so ashamed that I live in the same country as someone who is as selfish as you. Your idiocy has clearly blinded your judgment. I wonder how in the hell you even became a Hillraiser. Why does Hillary even put up with people like you? In any case, Barack Obama’s going to win the presidency and you and your ilk can go back to pouting, living in your parallel universes.
CoriGirl1966@aol.com to rrl3333
Have you paid Hillary’s debt off yet?
Obama “08 racist scummmmm
Jhon Benjamin to rrl3333 bjhon73@hotmail.com
Are you crazy? You show your true face. i understand your fruatration but you will never sleep in the licoln bedroom,ever again. Are you crying. You are a sick human being. Do not ever send me your email junk. You are just nasty. F* You
greenbug2@comcast.net to rrl3333
Ricki, I could write and tell you alot of things. All unflattering. About how you need to see a therapist and get on medication.I could suggest a long vacation to a rest home. I could call you names and tell you alot of other things. Instead I will say this…This is not pleasing your hero. You are probably causing her alot of alarm and maybe checking into adding onto her secret service detail. You really need to get a grip… Maybe run some bake sale or something to raise money to help pay off Hillary’s debts. Do something positive and constructive. That would do more to help Hillary and show your support rather then dwelling on the lose, letting yourself fall into a life of negativity and bitterness. And it will hurt other women candidates in the future as people, especially democrats, will see women as setting off too much controversy and disturbing reactions that people won’t support them at all. You are becoming a joke and no one wants to be known that way.
esignResponse@hawaii.rr.com“>DesignResponse@hawaii.rr.com
SHAME on you. Your site is disgraceful, hurtful and totally ridiculous. You are truly an idiot. Get a life, bitch.
MDemayo@chpnet.org
Get over it. You’re disgusting.
bholley@musiciansfriend.com
Dear Ricki,
I could put a lot of words together on how hateful Democrats like you should just vote McCain and stop trying to tear down Barack Obama.
But I think I could do it a lot easier with two — Fuck You.
Best, A Democrat Sickened by Blowjob Bill, Hillary Cliton and You!
Permalink: blog.unheardamericanvoices.com/2008/07/18/email-from-obama-supporter-to-one-of-hillarys-strongest–by-smh.aspx
“is this a plan on words are is it true ?
According to the DailyKos
[Governor Dean] put to rest the rumor perpetuated by an ad campaign, that Hillary Clinton would not be on the ballot at the DNCC in Denver. Clinton will be on the ballot and will speak at the convention–the DNC rules are clear on this. In relation to this, he talked about the importance of fighting back against these rumors, of answering the inflammatory e-mails with the truth.”
Key words: on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION” (just like Barack Obama).
Dean wouldn’t answer that question which wsa posed by a PUMA in Crawford yesterday.
on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION”
on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION”
on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION”
# 150 Maryland PUMA,
I think you are an incredible woman and thank you for all you do. I didn’t realize you have so much on your plate. Knowing that now I admire you even more.
Some peoples egos get bruised too easily. If one out of five of my posts ever get responded to ,I’m lucky. I never received an answer from the e-mail i sent you and you know what? I didn’t and don’t take offense.
If no one responds to a post of mine it just means they have other things on their minds or see no reason to respond. If I don’t get an answer back it means some one is too busy. These aren’t personal slights and should never be taken that way.
I’ve recruited four people here, I’ve sent letters done prowls talked to people where and when I could. As much as MAryland or Murphy? Lord no.
Some here do a lot more than others (not me). I just do what I can. Do I feel like “less” of a puma because of it? Of course not. I know that it is our individual voices combined that make us strong. A mighty roar when taken together. So come on PUMAS, take your egos out of the equation.
We have a job to do.
PUMAS RULE!!!!!! (all of us)
******I am limited with time for a few hours. Can anyone quickly fill me in if media picked up on Murphy’s group at Lincoln Memorial*******
Hey Tree!
#439 bmw60:
God help us! That’s all I have to say.
#334 Go kim from Michigan:
Okay, do you mean Garden City New York? Because if so…I’ve been dying to locate a good artist who’d be willing to truly dedicate himself to working on me for five years since my artist moved to Florida.
My body is sacred to me and I just won’t go to ‘anyone’ but need to see the spark of interest and know that this person ‘gets’ it and respects me enough to really do their best work.
Here’s to hoping you say YES!
PA4Hill is an asset. I cannot do much and truly appreciate all the efforts of those who work so tirelessly for PUMA and Murphy. However, we must keep the big picture and our goals the priority here, not personalities or egos. I’m done now. Good afternoon, all.
These are the hateful Obama supporters….
Got this from Tom Abrams!
Thank you!
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To: Abrahams, Tom
Subject: [TheVote] BMW60 submitted a comment to ‘P.U.M.A. Passion’
A new comment from “BMW60” was received on the post “P.U.M.A. Passion” of the weblog “TheVote”.
Comment:
Signing off now Tom… thanks for giving it a go with the information you disseminated here. I am thrilled that you let all the posting go on and I am thrilled to see that so many of Obama’s playbook rules were followed. May you find peace and love. This Independent voter owns hers and she once again reiterates that it will not be for Obama for even a seventh-grade civics class student knows there is something fishy going on here, because neither the delegate math nor the hairbrain explanations offered for Obama’s top dog status pass the straight-face test. To the contrary, the evidence indicates these primaries and caucuses held between January and June were deliberately rigged. One might go so far as to suggest the the high-ranking officials involved should all be charged with treason. And that’s not a rhetorical point. For the first time in American history, Democrats are about to crown someone who’s not only unfit to serve, but whos apparent ties to foreign agents (i.e., those Iraq war profiteers we’ve been hearing about) make him a candidate for the no-fly list, not the presidency….. Once again… thank You Tom for making this information possible.
Commenter name: BMW60
People take a peek over at Tom Abraham’s article, you’ll find it interesting!
threadhttp://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
#394 mpdamon
lol to carry on with the poppins theme
A spoonful of PUMA
helps the Bo go downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
sorry, I copied & pasted wrong.
#439 bmw60,
Wow! Totally unbelievable! And these people (and I use the term lightly) expect us to join them? I want no part of any candidate who inspires such hatred in his followers. I call them followers because that is what they are. Anyone who is willing to shed their dignity as a human being and attack others for exercising free will is a cultist follower.
#397 goandersen
Skunk spray ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh pleeeeze tell me it was so!
lol getting punchy its friday after a long long week and I go home in a few minutes!
#449 Trish,
Good one!
notanegghead:
welcome. I likewise lurk and only post at odd times. It is surely gratifying to see us growing.
PA4Hill: Come on back. We will all be better with you.
SunnyPa: YOU have the RIGHT attitude! My sentiments exactly!
To everyone else, I haven’t read Murphy’s address on the action center thing yet, though I’m sure it’s here somewhere. I’m expecting to see something like: we appreciate all the time that Pa4Hill DONATED to us. Her efforts were extremely helpful and we are currently working on getting the action center up and running again as soon as possible.
Period. The end. Unelss you can contribute towards said goal then I that’s all there is to say. Thank you very much for your time and we hope to see you again soon, in whatever role you wish to take.
I wrote a very heart-felt post about respect and how each of us, as PUMA’s deserve that simply BY being PUMA’s not too long ago. I wish I had saved it. I’d love to repost it. Okay, back to reading.
439 bmw60
goodness gracious!!!
You are right antifish… so very right…maybe i should post this in Tom Abrams … i think i will —decision made!
I encourage you to go to noquarterusa.net
Read the article “Race Becomes a Political Strategy” by soldier4Hillary. There is also a youtube video with it. I have heard this young woman speak before and she is very powerful! mpkrodham
Good afternoon all, I’ve been gone all day so I haven’t watch any TV or read any postings so now I’m catching up. Did we have anything to do today that I missed, didn’t see anything in my mailbox.
Hi MsBin,
I hope all is well with you, it’s too hot here (Bakersfield), still feeling alittle under the weather but good enough to sit here lololol, it’s always nice to read you lol.
TREEPUMA
Just sent my follow up e-mails to the phone calls to Walters and Oakar.
#403 goandersen
lol don’t get me started on the village casue you know what i’m gonna say don’t you…
there is a village out there looking for a Bo fan, the villagers are missing their idiot
#412 Hi notanegghead! I’m also from TX. Earlier I posted about BO and his approval of sexist comments. We have taken a step back as far as women’s rights are concerned in this country.
There are many PUMAs from TX. I think we are especially angry because our vote has been ignored and because the DNC leadership treated HC supporters so badly. Best and keep posting, Lara08
To PA4HILL08:
I retract my earlier comment about the “person who is running the Action Center”. Serving a Recording Secretary for a fairly large local organization, I can well understand how frustrating it can be when half the people come at you from all sides and the other half don’t cooperate. It’s enough to make a person want to throw it in and I have come close several times.
So anyway, I hope you will accept this as a public apology~~
Ech..who am I kidding? I’m tooo tired.
I was unable to sleep most of the night. I honestly think Obama kept me up! Reading that article about his desire to build a militia and hearing his speech containing said desire of July 2nd—REALLY got to me. In ways no politician (not even BUSH) has disturbed me. So, as a result I was tossing and turning for hours and finally gave up and tried to do some dissemination.
I see there is LOTS of great information and growl-work to do in today’s am thread, but I must admit defeat and give it up for today. I’ll have to make my calls on Monday.
Murphy/MarylandPuma: I donno if you noticed the conversation last night I had with…oh shoot, see, I can’t even remember who I was talking to! But anyone, another Pac’er here. We both had had the urge to contact Senator Clinton and give her support/thanks and encouragement. Since we both spontaneously had had this urge we were thinking maybe other Puma’s had as well? So I said I’d suggest to you adding sending purrs to HRC to a Daily Growl maybe sometime this weekend?
Alright…I’m gonna sign off for a bit. Purrs and Paws to all PUMA’s.
Stay: Vigilant; Fearless; Potent!
lol on fox just now Susan Rice just said it take a village to prop up and emty suit….lamo….he has 300 !!!!! foreign advisors…
to reach Ms Oakar, I was given the # 216-631-2260, and I called and spoke with her secy.
Who does *61 thinks will come out to greet him when he goes abroad. Me thinks all leaders will be ‘busy’ when he comes.
#439 bmw60
GUYS, JUST FOR FUN, CAN WE PUMA POUNCE THESE MORONIC FOOLS………..PLEASE…………. THEY ARE SO RUDE AND CRUDE. YOU CAN TELL THEY ARE JUST LITTLE BABIES TRYING TO BE BIG.
PLEASE……..
#441 snowtiger: ditto ditto ditto. that is my feelings exactly and you know what ,IF, we are going to be puma’s and ,IF, we intend to help Hillary then we need to be strong we need to let this “stuff” roll off us just like water rolls off a duck’s back. We need to stay focused and quit majoring on the minor’s. Let’s Roll!!!
#400-MuchAdoAboutSomething.
We too got shut out of the caucus because there was so much confusion. We got told about it inside while we were voting, but when we got there, we were told it was full inside and that no one else could come in, etc. After I saw some of the things coming out, I am pretty sure now that was a scam to keep the HRC people limited. It’s what I was saying before, and thanks to whoever commented about my comment.. the powers that be that love money and power are working hard to take away our votes!!!!
I’m mad as H#@L and don’t want to take it anymore!!!!
468…i hope so…wouldn’t that be yummie
Let demand that Dean put Hillary name into nomination… to make up for the chit he has done…lol
All Pumas,
Here is a copy of the article in the Waco paper about the Crawford visit. It mentions my husband and I.
WACO TRIBUNE-HERALD July 18, 2008
Dean kicks off Southern tour in Bush’s backyard
By Kelsie Hahn
Tribune-Herald staff writer
CRAWFORD-Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic Ntional Committee, called on Texan Democrats on Thursday to help in win back the state amid cheers, applause and an occasional amen from a crowd of about 70 in Crawford. “We’re not far enough behind so that we can’t win, ” he said on the first stop in his voter registration tour through several Southern states. “This is the first time in a long time we’ve been able to campaign in Texas and know that we have a chance at winning.”
Area Republicans, however, say that chance is a long one.
“I think it’s wishful thinking. I think the republicans are working hard and have a good base. Most of the elected officials in Texas are Republican.” said David Kent, Brazos County Republican Party chairman, adding with a laugh, “To say something like that here in Texas, it’s kind of funny.”
Kent did not attend the rally, but he said he’s optimistic Dean’s hopes won’t come true. Dean’s speech kicked off his registration drive practically in the backyard of President bush’s ranch.
“We’re looking forward to turning that into a retirement home.” he quipped to the crowd, mostly local Democratic supporters and members of the media.
Dean also called on party faithful to champion presumptive presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama among their friends and neighbors.
Dean touched on the Democratic platform on health care, energy, the economy and foreign relations and equated presumptive Republican nominee John McCain to a third term for Bush.
Responses after the speech were as mixed as the audience, which consisted of sign-toting Obama supporters, Democrats still staunchly in favor of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as the nominee, and even a few life-long Republicans.
“I really like that he came to Texas. It just was really a good idea,” said Oscar Boleman, a 21-year old Baylor University senior and president of the Baylor Democrats.
John Cullar, McLennan County Democratic Party chairman, said Dean’s decision to start the campaign deep in traditionally Repulican territory was “symbolic.”
“It would be very easy for the national party to say, “Well, Crawford, Texas, is President Bush’s hometown, we don’t need to campaign there,” he said . Instead, he said the message is, “There’s not an inch of America that we’re not gonna fight for.”
McLennan County Republican Party Chairman M.A. Taylor and county Republican Club chief Chris DeCluitt were not at the event and unavailable for comment by phone about Dean’s vote drive.
John and Sherry Shook, of Clifton, have spent many a presidential election on opposite sides of the party line but say this year’s primaries have soured them both on Obama. John Shook said he attended the rally to get information, while Sherry Shook, an avid Clinton supporter was looking for answers. She said she thinks Democrats rushed the candidate selection before the party’s convention in August.
“We feel like there’s something corrupt going on there, trying to keep her out,” she said.
One woman questioned Dean as to why Clinton already has been counted out of the race and another peppered him with questions about energy and health care as he arrived but he did not respond directly. “Better get a President Obama, then we can solve that,” Dean said before continuing through the crowd, smiling, shaking hands and signing autographs..
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#472 prowlland.
I understand leaders from Iraq/Afghan to meet him. But, do you think Merkel/Sarkozy/Brown will have red carpet for him, Me think Not!!!
#458 mpk on 07.18.08 at 4:06 pm I encourage you to go to noquarterusa.net
Read the article “Race Becomes a Political Strategy” by soldier4Hillary.
This is “Must Read!”
#296 TrishfromCanada on 07.18.08 at 2:07 pm,
and Lucky…
I think a delegate from alaska is not worth the trouble… better more important fish to fry.
Like those from all the states Hillary won, and Florida and Michigan.
So no, I would not want you to respond in my behalf…
I can do that myself if I wanted to…
Just haven’t found the time yet today.
Obama cartoon; I received the funniest cartoon about BoBo today I wish I could send it to all puma’s. If any of you want it email me.
Ok, made all three calls, but don’t know who I was calling with the second number listed.
David Walters, spoke with his very friendly assistant, Susan.She took my name, phone # and email. She said Mr and Mrs Walters each donated to the max for Hillary. Susan said she knows Mr Walters will do what is best for the DNC.
I spoke with Ms Oakar’s secy Toni, another friendly lady. Toni herself is a fan of HRC, and she hope for an unexpected outcome in Denver. Toni said she could not speak for Ms Oakar, but Toni said she knows Ms Oakar and that Ms Oakar will do what’s right.
I don’t know who I was supposed to talk with for the
leedss@dnc.org phone number, but when I called and stated my name, PUMA PAC affiliation, and location, I was sent to voice mail. The message gave a name so quickly, I think she said Patrice Taylor.
Missions accomplished.
#433 kat in your hat ,
There are numerous links on yesterday’s thread with videos and news articles from the rally in Crawford. I was one of the pumas that attended along with Guila. Since I couldn’t send them to the action site, I posted them and also sent them to Will Bower head of Party Unity My Ass so that he could post them at his site.
If you are interested.
Thanks
Roxyincali, landipuma and any other Pumas in No. Ca-please see post # 368 for a prowl party at the greenfun den.
Tom Abraham’s piece – I had to chuckle when I read the post by the person who posted that PUMA had a “racist” post. I guess they really had to look hard for that, through the thousands and thousands of posts.
But, it also shows how one negative post can set a tone for those who are only looking for the negative.
#398-prowlland and 405 – BigCatLover
That’s what I’m worried about; the language isn’t right, so I’m afraid it’s just something they are saying to appease us, hoping to slip it by and it’s all another big sham.
We have to keep on with this; we have to hold their feet to the fire!!!!
#439 bmw
Unfortunately, while it disgusts me, it does not surprise me. Though it did surprise me at the beginning of the primaries.
I remember in 2006 when “W” came to my town. A few acres of a nearby field was converted for crowds and parking. I, along with about 30 others protesting and holding Kerry signs, were kept a good distance away.
But hundreds of people coming to hear Bush had to pass us. We had some young children with us. I cannot tell you how many people cursed, made crude gestures and otherwise screamed and yelled at us.
We never responded, but I always told myself that those were Republicans, and that’s why they acted like that.
Lo and behold, Hillary runs, and it is even worse. Never could I have imagined such hatred. And for what reason?
This election cycle will be an historic event. And not only because of the candidates. What is historic is the manner in which the candidates and the DNC conducted themselves. And even more, how the public through grassroots organizations stood up to the bullying and mysoginistic power brokers.
Someone forgot who really has the power. Thanks to Riverdaughter, Murphy, Will, HeidiLi, Marc and all the others who reminded us of who we are, and have allowed us to give voice.
I am honored and humbled to be part of this movement.
Thank you, PUMA’s.
TRISH – YOU HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF MAIL -
FOR ALL WHO WANT TO SEND A FAX WITHOUT A FAX MACHINE – I found a site – you can send two free a day -
http://www.faxzero.com
While doing Trish’s project of looking up SD’s fax numbers – almost every single Google look up there was an ad for the NO NAMED ONE – not one single page had one that was for our Hillary
#248 luckyann on 07.18.08 at 1:43 pm
[[ #241 murphy on 07.18.08 at 1:38 pm
where can we read this email? Is it cosmeta’s?]]
Murphy’s response is different than mine… So don’t know if it is from the same individual.
As to mine…. see,
#63 cosmeta on 07.18.08 at 10:17 am
Basically, what I wrote above was the whole of it, except that I reworded the response I got.
And no, I do not want you to reply in my behalf.
Thank you.
#435… Yes, i did get a few “spirited” responses, but then my stand as a PUMA does that… give me proof and I will read and listen… no documented proof the names just run off my back like a duck in a rainstorm… ya see being here I have been preening my feathers and well all that stuff just runs off my back.
Lotts1948… so sorry to hear your caucus story… did you give your story to the person who is collecting them? I can’t remember who that is!!
Well that is the last of my info to share about the rally yesterday. I hope that it helped to make all of you a part of it even though you couldn’t be there.
I will try to lurk later this evening but will have my hands full this weekend with my 2 year old granddaughter. She just woke up from her nap so gotta go.
Take care and please…no bickering. Be nice to each other. We are all family.
Bye ya’ll.
#470 pookie.
See even I get a response now and then. lol. Yup pookie lets roll!!!
I was listening to Blogtalkradio. Paula Ables and Marilu Solchor: http://www.realdemocratesUSA.org.
Women for Fair Politics and Wake Up are very excited to announce we are joining forces to create a new partnership to become one voice known as Real Democrats! Real Democrats plan to take back our Democratic party one neighborhood at a time. Real Democrats Launch on FOX’s Neil Cavuto
Real Democrats is a grassroots initiative whose primary purpose is to inform and educate. We are organizing groups in local communities in 50 states to take direct action. YOU can be part of this important effort. Join our team.
Is there a place where people who were told they could not vote for Hillary in the primary here in California, because they were independents, to register a complaint? Seems one of my sisters friends was told just that. She will be here shortly btw.
#299 Mary Beth613 on 07.18.08 at 2:08 pm, WROTE,
[[ @176 cosmeta…see you are so intune with all this web stuff, and most of us aren’t. ]]
Well, at age 62 I may be getting old(er) but I still have the capacity to learn. What intriques me about the internet and software is this: My attitude is this, I be damned if I let a computer beat me. LOL
[[But you get it, my problem is the same, ..if I want to respond I have to get your # and name..go to the bottom of the thread, and skip everything else so that I can write you before I forget what I wanted to say in the first place!!!]]
I do it this way… clumbsy at it may be. I sit with a piece of paper and pencil by my pc… Just keep on reading, mark down the numbers I am interested in, either to respond or to backtrack to get a link…
Then,
I respond.
Sometimes directly from here but most of the times I use a neat little utility called TEXTPAD that has no line limitation… so its better than notepad or Word… it keeps tracks of line numbers and has a yellow highlight wherever you place your mouse. So what I do is I copy and cut directly from my browser, then paste it into notepad and then toggle between the two.
I also learned from someone here the other day, to use the CTRL + ENTER key before I click on a link so I can come back here … it works on most sites except for YouTube. So for YouTube I open another browser session and paste in the link in the location box while keeping this window open.
[[ Also, I have to get out of the thread to find out if anyone responded to my question or if i want to follow the thread…get what I mean?]]
I certainly do.
~smile.
TREE Just saw your post
I am in and out today, trying to get business completed for weekend.
Very H O T here in Maryland, too.
Did you see any media coverage on MURPHY’s group at the Lincoln Memorial today?
#482-middle age female
I also read those accusations of PUMAs being racist—funny thing is on http://stellarvoices.wordpress.com/ I had just written a thread prior to reading that how the word ‘racist’ is so commonly used by so many toward so many.
452 TrishfromCanada
LOL! It was stinky and the image just melted off the page! There is a Goddess!
The Village Fool…………? We have one already, please, no more!
I am going to boycott the ‘puppet string’ factory!
VERY interesting Cosmeta – I had sent an email via LobbyDelegates to Patti Higgens in Alaska two weeks ago on my own – and got back one of the nices responses that I had from any of the others that I received responses back on – I will see if I saved it – although I doubt it – if I can find it will post – she said that she had always been a Hillary Clinton supporter and always would be – maybe she got bombarded with so many emails that it made her mad or something —
#492 snowtiger
Were in Calif do you live?
Some of us are meeting tomorrow in N. Calif at Greenfun’s.
271-Trish,
I was trying to be funny too. I admire you much. Greyhounds make me laugh and sometimes cry.
They have taught me the lesson of being determined. Of never giving up and that is the wonderful Spirit I see here.
Pumas are the best. This is a great community, don’t ever forget it. I am awed by the continued effort of everyone and the way it all comes together.
Murphy, you are greyt! PUMA is a force to be reckoned with. This is where I come to see what is actually going on. I love reading posts from other areas it makes me feel connected.
I’m 30 mi from town. One grocery store, 2 dollar stores and some small shops–everybody knows everybody. Enough for now.
Blessings
ATTENTION PUMAS IN THE SAN FRANCISCO AREA:
Here is the link to download the petition to get CINDY SHEEHAN on the November ballot. The number of signatures required from registered voters by AUGUST 8TH is 10,198. They have 6,593 so far. Let me remind you that Cindy is running AGAINST NANCY PELOSI. Let’s help Cindy get her name on that ballot.
http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
Great PUMA Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxkRS1mZB4
AM in my time, off to bed. Stay safe and be Happy, pat yourselves on the back for the wonderful work everyone been putting together ‘in our own free time’
Sorry MsBin, but no I didnt
Sacramento area. Sorry I work weekends.
Trish – I hope that I did not fill up your inbox with email – I stumbled across a Washington DC website that gave every committee and subcommittee in Congress for both Democrats and Rep – with the name of the individual phone and fax number – that should clear up a lot of the missing faxes I HOPE.
If you did not receive email me back and I will send again.
Will be gone for awhile.
504 was to 498 billiejo
not an egghead welcome you’ll love it here, so many dedicated people bound together for a better tomorrow. This journey we are on is not only for the folks here but for all Americans. We deserve to have a president who cares about the people and will work hard to bring us peace and prosperity, the only chance we have is Hillary.
Maryland Puma. thanks for all of your efforts and hard work, PA4Hill, sorry if you were offended dont’ think it was intentional, please come back to us, we need you.
To all the PUMAs who posted on TA website, great job.
* * * BREAKING * * *
Marc Ambinder reports today that the Markham Group, a company associated with Hillary Clinton’s top presidential campaign staff, “purchased a website domain that hints of a 2012 presidential bid.”
Check it out!
This is the e-mail I sent the offices of NOW today regarding their request that NOW members write The New Yorker to complain about their cover illustration of BO and MO:
“Dear NOW:
What does the cover of the New Yorker have to do with NOW’s objectives as an organization? Why are you wasting your time interfering in Obama’s campaign? You should have a list of all the sexist remarks made by Barack Obama and his campaign and should ask your members to write them to ask that they stop insulting women and Hillary Rodham Clinton instead of bothering with trivial matters like The New Yorker cover.”
Best,
Lara08
Great, Lara08! Thank you for doing that. I am so sick of NOW’s hypocrisy. Whoo hoo!
#500 Roxi in Cali
Thank you. In a post yesterday, I specifically cited support for Ms. Sheehan in getting on the ballot, recommending tactically that we seek to bolster our position by strengthening the positions of our detractors’ opponents. Loosely, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. (I am from Massachusetts.)
Maryland PUMA
I apologize for the long post.
Thank you for letting us all know how much is on your plate and thank you for everything you do.
Please ask us for help. There are many things us PUMAs can help you with and we are just waiting to jump in.
Take us up on this offer and take some of the load off your plate so you also have time for Maryland PUMA and your family. If many take a small piece of the load, the job isn’t so time consuming.
We might be at this for quite awhile if Denver is a bust.
#508 Notfalling,
Where did U hear that?
#504 snowtiger
Sacramento area.
Yea, that is a drive with gas so expensive. Seems like more PUMA in your area then might be were we are in *61 country.
508 Roxy in cali
http://themarkhamgroup.net/index.html
Thank you all for your emails regarding the Action Site. I have read them and forwarded them to Murphy, who should arrive home soon from DC. I was supposed to go with her as it’s only 150 miles from home, but alas, the cub nixed those plans and gave me her illness to boot.
Making any decision on the Action Site is something I leave completely in Murphy’s paws. It is the way I hae always done it and will continue to do it until she says otherwise.
#509 Lara08. Great letter. Exposes something I suspected a long time ago. NOW has become nothing more than a front for the leadership of the DNC. If their current hypocrisy doesn’t convince anyone nothing will.
#511 jbjd,
My son’s broken Woody doll could do a better job than Pelosi for crying out loud! And he doesn’t even speak anymore.
#515 goandersen on 07.18.08 at 5:23 pm
Wonder if we can get that group to work pro bono for JSND…. hmm.
Regarding media contacts.
We have a VERY effective Editor PUMA who has been sending some very effective communications to her contacts in the media world on her own time. She doesn’t blog and we respect her privacy for obvious reasons.
She gets very excited when she gets a ‘hit’ – and she got one today.
I need any PUMAs in NV to contact me via email. I have an NPR reporter, I think?, who wants to talk to some of you.
Please email me at marylandpuma at gmail dot com.
And give some big PUMA love to our Editor PUMA who is working so hard behind the scenes and most likely putting her reputation on the line to represent us in her own way!
Dances -
We can ignore adolescent dramas…
This isn’t an ego gratification factory… if anyone requires that much attention, get thee to a therapist and use this blog for our mission, or just leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
Let’s get over ourselves and get back to work! We only have 30+ days to accomplish the first two of our primary missions.
Yea! I agree totally.
We don’t have time for the drama.
Cutting back on that kind of stuff, the posts would actually be at a readable length.
We have all had time to vent, now let’s all try to move into the action phase because we don’t have time to waste.
#514 Billiejo. Lots of pumas out here. They just don’t know it till I tell them.
Like I said in a earlier post, I admire your courage. Peoples republic of Berkley yeesh!! Lady, you got stones , as we like to say in my family. 
PUMA COMMENTS STILL NEEDED
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
antifish, bmw60, Daddy’sDarlin and others – saw your great comments. The misinformation game continues. If anyone has time still to go over to the article, please post a comment.
Kerri and bruce5555… loved your comments on the Tom Abrams… wonderful to see your comments!!!
I got this from Tom re: UnheardAmericanvoices and Obamas responses to Hillary’s Supporter..
Barb….thanks for the post. I will have to go through this, though, and edit the foul language…
I will leave the rest of the content.
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From: TypePad [mailto:noreply@sixapart.com]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:11 PM
To: Abrahams, Tom
Subject: [TheVote] BMW60 submitted a comment to ‘P.U.M.A. Passion’
I’ve suggested it before but will suggest it again for posterity.
IMs are great for a duet discussion, and chat rooms are great for a PUMA team who is working on a project and needs a separate PRIVATE venue in which to converse. Yahoo, AOL and Gmail all have chat functions if you are on their email domain.
PLEASE send us any ideas you may have for Prowls and Growls. However, if they are not in ‘finished’ form and it is only a thought, it will take us time to flesh out your idea and submit it to the PUMA Pride. If you can draft a sample letter and tell us who it should go to , we will by all means use it – believe me!
#509 Lara08
Check your Spam folder. My reply to NOW came back undelivered as spam. I guess NOW doesn’t want to hear from us.
439-bmw60
this is part of the militia
those e-mails are the consequence of professional rabble-rouser induced activities, very well planned>>>>> probably will result in an or “the” underground extremist movement….
my humble opion is that every threat, harassment done to restrict our freedom of expression should be denouced , whatever the procedure might be(reporting to the police, filing a formal complaint, or a suit against sb, etc…)
and report it to all the media, it would be up to them to make public, research, etc
#515 goandersen,
Thank you.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5405561&page=1
Hillary Clinton Rips Bush Abortion Proposal
Democrats Argue Proposal Would Threaten Women’s Access to Contraception
Has anyone seen this Wall Street Journal article about Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett Packard…a surrogate for MCain reaching out to Hillary supporters? Some names here of big time Hillraisers…reps from Just Say No Deal attended the private meeting in Westchester, NY…..
http://blogs.wsj.com:80/washwire/2008/07/16/mccain-surrogate-fiorina-meets-with-clinton-supporters/
i sent the letters but leedss@dnc.org came back as a wrong address
Unless thats a i instead of a L
#501 goandersen… OMG did you see (towards the end of the video) where Dean’s eyes were all bugged out and he looked like his ulcer just exploded?? I’ll bet that’s what he looked like when he recieved the news about us “lowely” PUMAs….
533 sychoram
That is exactly what I thought when I say him! LMAO!
I wish I lived in DC, I would be prowling all over him!
Hey, sandipuma!
528 Roxy in cali
You are welcome. I like to have resources for stuff.
What I really like us aligning ourselves with the image of a puma is that we are a cat—our loyalties are selective. We can’t be trained easily. We do what we do after we have assessed the situation and select the best course of action….no blind tail-wagging, tongue hanging adoration (no offense, dog lovers).
So, when you read what BMW60 so valiantly brought us from “the other side” (Thanks BMW60), that blind following image comes to mind…..and they want to accuse us of racism?? Is there a hollow sound when you tap their foreheads? I think so.
Well, our catselves have assessed the situation very carefully and calculated the course and the prey, and will be watchful and intelligent in our actions. They haven’t got a clue. Bless their hearts.
Kerri
That was one FREAKIN AWESOME HOLY SMOKES PUMA POWER comment on the Abrahams blog. May I copy that and send it to Murphy or would you do so?
She HAS to see that.
You obviously spent an incredible amount of time and put an incredible amount of passion and thought into it.
I’m speechless!
***PUMA ALERT***
One of our detractors who has commented on the Tom Abrahams article claims there will be something interesting to see on our blog at 7:00 p.m. I have no idea what she could mean, but don’t forget we are in the spotlight tonight.
Great comments on the Tom Abrahams article, y’all.
Beware the wrath of the PUMA trolls at 7pm.. we’ve been warned….. thanks for the reminder to just leave that site… no more fodder for the ‘cultist’s”….
Kerri, which one was it? Will someone post it here for us?
PUMA love needed here.
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.htm
bmw60, you really got attacked over there. I bet your claws nice and sharp after all.
“are” nice and sharp oops
oh, hell, bmw, I meant to say I bet your claws are nice and sharp after that.
maybe I need coffee
#522 snowtiger
Stones – hehe! Yup, Berkeley’s a tough nut to crack for the *61 supporters here. Land of the ultra liberals, which I was apart of until Hillary ran for president. My Hillary button at Cal was like a target for everyone to try and convince me that the savior had arrived. So many cups of kool-aid offered, so many innocent balloons to burst.
I have found out that a lot of the female faculty support Hillary but do not mention it to all the students that thrive on the *61 speeches. I work for a really great African American Professor that is making some media project for Obama…he sees my Hillary button and just looks at me, doesn’t know that on my computer he is facing….there a database I am working on to overthrow his efforts. I just smile and act sweet to him. I really like him
I am sure everyone hates the FISA vote but don’t think they have a choice as how to vote now.
My PUMA signs are torn down in a furry and I have resorted to taping up little PUMA business cards in places they wouldn’t suspect. Like on the button you push for the elevator, or the button for the crosswalk. They don’t see them from a distance. Walk down the campus halls and in the least expected spot, inside the elevator, there they are. Leave them on the seats of Bart.
So many hearts to break, so little time.
So a friend tells me that Dean has confirmed Hillary’s name will be on the ballot…but they neglect to tell me whether its the ballot for nomination or not…
anyone know?
#537 Lin4Hill LOL! Love it. You are so right.
claws with feathers…like a duck… water off the back of ducks…dragonfly>>>LOL… we are going to have the trolls coming at 7pm… they warned us ahead of time…
Marc4Hill – I am ignorant – what else could she be on the ballot for?
#533
ROFLMAO what a visual
#540 I don’t know, but if that’s the case, maybe Maryland PUMA should put *everyone* in moderation between 6:45-7:30 just to be safe.
FOX pundit just announced BO called the suggestion that he campaign at the Brandenburg Gate “presumptuous,” that is, he blamed his staff for trying to set this up.
no idea lol…
i’m assuming when they say roll call that her name doesnt have to be on a ballot for that…? now i’m confused…
hang on…
so…
on the ballot for nomination is what Dean is confirming…and roll call is NOT what he’s referring to?
#526
I think NOW received my e-mail. I only got back an e-mail from them asking me to become a member of NOW.
Hi everyone,
Just got homefrom work, getting ready to start reading! Went to the bank, left a flyer in the tube when I got my money!
Marc – from #440 Dances with Pumas:
“is this a plan on words are is it true ?
According to the DailyKos
[Governor Dean] put to rest the rumor perpetuated by an ad campaign, that Hillary Clinton would not be on the ballot at the DNCC in Denver. Clinton will be on the ballot and will speak at the convention–the DNC rules are clear on this. In relation to this, he talked about the importance of fighting back against these rumors, of answering the inflammatory e-mails with the truth.”
Key words: on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION” (just like Barack Obama).
Dean wouldn’t answer that question which wsa posed by a PUMA in Crawford yesterday.
on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION”
on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION”
on the ballot AND “Placed in NOMINATION”
#556 – what a great idea to leave a flyer in the box at the bank – it would also work at a pharmacy. I love how creative the PUMAs are!
Grrrooowwwllll
#529 Baby Bush is the best argument ever for retroactive abortions. I can’t believe that Millie didn’t dnap his little neck . . . thought she was smart.
#429 Trish
Oh, a Pride full of PUMAs puts the Obots to shame, the Obots to shame, the Obots to shame
Yes a Pride full of PUMAs puts the Obots to shame
in a most inciteful way.
#554 Marc4Hill I’ve been confused about that as well. I think I’ll google the DNC’s convention rules. It might help me understand alot of the nuances involced in this selection year
Marc – I think that’s it. She may be on the ballot, but we have to make sure there is a roll call. When Dances says “Placed in Nomination” I think that is what she means.
In any event, we should definitely continue to talk to DNC leaders and superdelegates about having Hillary on the ballot and placed in nomination so that a roll call vote can occur on the floor that would allow her to be designated the Democratic Nominee for President if she does in fact receive the votes.
Wow, a simple phrase became a paragraph. Now you know I am a lawyer.
Regarding the NOW letter. Of course I gave them a piece of my mind also. But I have had time to think about it and their behavior fits into the BO campaign plan to replace Hillary with Michelle O as the preferred sexism victim (what planet are thee people on?). Also it fits the BO campaign mantra of sexism equals racism, BO has experienced racism and blah blah blah blah about racism. Which of course is a bunch of half composted bull shit. However I am stunned at the stupidity of the women who are associated with NOW. Is it too much to ask that they stick to their purpose of pointing out sexism in the media and eliminating it? And call me a b!#@$ but I am ready to take on racism and gay issues as soon as I see one of the orgs devoted to gay and race issues act to benefit women and the sexism that infects our society.
#560 – “this selection year” LOL!
Its long,, but here is the whole story on Obama donations for his candidacy:
Friday, July 18, 2008
Obama Donor Base Shrivels, Campaign Blows $35 Million, Obama Bloggers Reporting False Numbers
This morning the papers were overloaded with positive stories proclaiming that Barack Obama was back on his A-Game and raising money like there was no tomorrow. Unfortunately the MSM once again failed to look at the actual numbers that should be of concern for the Obama campaign.
It is true that the Obama campaign did raise $52 million in June, along with DNC fundraising that added another $22 million to their coffers. That’s a total haul of $74 million for the Democrat party in the month of June. But Obama, whose campaign has been so proud to taught his 1.5 million donors during the months of February, March & April, changed it’s tone in yesterday’s campaign release. In yesterday’s release, David Plouffe stated, “Hundreds of thousands of ordinary people contributed…”. Naturally, I pulled out the calculator only to grin at the reality that Obama, while raising a record $52 million, saw his donor base cut in half in June. That’s right, just 764,000 donors compared to the 1.5 million who donated to his campaign in April.
The Obama campaign and it’s surrogates had proudly projected that Obama would raise $100 million in June and a total of $250 – $300 million prior to the election. But the media failed to focus on the fact that Obama’s total was only half of what they projected, primarily due to his shrinking donor base. Interest in the Obama campaign is also shriveling up online, where Obama’s website which once ranked near the top 500 according to Alexa Web Tracking, has seen a consistent downward trend in visits since reaching it’s pinnacle in early March. Today, Obama’s website ranking has dropped to it’s lowest level since the first of the year, and ranks around 3,000. The campaign website trend may also be disturbing considering the consistency within McCain’s site visits and an upward trend since the beginning of June.
More disturbing for the campaign is the the cash on hand scenario. The McCain campaign and RNC currently have just shy of $100 million in the bank to take their fight forward. Meanwhile the Obama campaign announced yesterday that the campaign and DNC had a total closer to $72 million. This number is troubling for many in the Obama campaign, considering that just one month ago the two groups reported over $35 million of cash on hand. Considering that the DNC and Obama campaign raised $74 Million in June and that the DNC only spent $2 million; that would mean that the Obama campaign burned thru $35 million during the month of June. An astonishing amount considering that the Summer months are typically the doldrums of the campaign season. Even more disconcerting are the polls that continue to show the Obama has failed to increase his support, with his favorability ratings dropping and unfavorable rising.
For their part, Obama bloggers, including Huffpo, Politico, and TPM are reporting false numbers this morning, spreading stories that the DNC and Obama campaign have $92 million in the bank. Their reports are fueled by an LA Times story that simply failed to do any fact-checking. The Obama campaign press release yesterday specifically reported that the combined total cash on hand was $72 million.
One additional aspect of Obama’s fundraising numbers is the Hillary effect. Since suspending her campaign in early June, Clinton has participated in several fundraisers and publicly pushed her largest contributors to donate to Obama’s campaign. Following one recent fundraising event with Clinton, the Obama campaign reported that they had raised $5 million during the private event. Considering that many, but not all, of Clinton’s donors have made contributions to Obama’s campaign it’s pretty safe to assume that 15%-30% of his fundraising total were derived directly from former Clinton supporters.
Further concerns may surface for the Obama campaign considering that many of the 130,000 donors who funded 60% of his primary campaign have already maxed out their general election contribution. Recent contribution requests reflect this growing desperation for new cash. The Obama campaign once proudly asked for a $5 contribution in their fundraising efforts; today, the campaign has increased their requests to $25.
There is an increasing consensus that Obama will have too dramatically outspend John McCain in order to win the general election; but the question remains, how much will they have to spend? It is unimaginable that the Obama campaign burned through $35 million dollars in the month of June and the best they could do was to ‘barely hold on’. Last fall, the DNC requested that donors contribute to individual campaigns rather than the ‘move on’ type 527′s that played such an important role during the last presidential cycle. As a result, DNC cash on hand and 527 groups are lagging far behind the RNC and Republican 527′s. If Obama hopes to maintain his efforts to ‘buy an election’ he is going to have to find a way to reach back out to the small donors to fund his campaign. This may prove more elusive than ever considering that middle class and lower class citizens are being hammered by increasing inflation, record gas prices, and an impending high cost to heat their homes this fall. Perhaps Obama should consider using his new influence to push congress to bring the “The Gas Price Reduction Bill” to a vote and send a message that he actually cares about the middle and lower classes.
J Brown
July 18th, 2007
Could not get a fax through to Oakar, tried several times. Walters’ went okay. Emailed earlier … leedss@dnc.org came back. Will send to howie.
#556 – what a great idea to leave a flyer in the box at the bank
I also put them in the big blue post office mail boxes where you drop off your mail on the street.
People at the post office vote too.
Seattlegirl, you crack me up with “a bunch of half composted bull shit.”
I understand what you mean – it reminds me of the environmentalist movement leaders who failed to recognize that racism and sexism had to be a part of the movement. Black feminists and ecofeminists wrote extensively on the irony of it all. And here we have it again. It’s stunning to me that people who are quick to say “racist” don’t even understand what they are condoning – for example, it is okay for Obama to have a misogynistic rap song as one of his theme songs for his parties? WTF? And for people to call G. Ferraro a racist for a comment taken out of context that she meant in a complimentary fashion – wow. I lost a lot of respect for D Sawyer when she interviewed her, supposedly so she could talk about what she meant, but Diane intended to grill her and put the interrogation lights on her. Ferraro didn’t put up with it though – she ROCKS.
I have almost begun to boycott abc, but I like Tom Abrahams’ site.
Go PUMAs!
#566 Billie Jo – awesome idea to drop flyers into the post bin!!!
Wow anderson that video is great. I have another blitz in mind. my bad
It’s illegal to put in PO boxes…
564 – thanks for the story. I copied it for my PUMA archive.
Hey Sandy!
If they are planning on something “interesting to see” and we’ve been warned, will they still plan it? You don’t tell the “enemy” the timetable. Well, you do if you’re stupid.
Is it a planted commentary to see if we will address it, or some other type of techno-attack?
Okay–you can only fool a cat a few times. When I throw the toy mousie to the left, and then my cat expects it on the left the next time, I throw it on the right. After a bit of my subterfuge, she gives me a look of indifference and disgust.
Warned and ready.
7 pm is almost upon us… are ya ready folks?
It was mathman233
could be 7 pm cst, or mst, or pst… we won’t know….LOL
#559 mpdamon – love your songs
#538 Maryland PUMA on 07.18.08 at 5:59 pm
Kerri
That was one FREAKIN AWESOME HOLY SMOKES PUMA POWER comment on the Abrahams blog.
Missed this, can someone please send the link. If Maryland PUMA gets this excited, I need to see it.
Y’all I am off to visit the paterfamilias. will be back tonight.
As murph would say, be wonderful to each other.
I am proud to be a part of you.
Growl on
Dragonfly Rodham Puma
OMG I just came from Tom Arahams article I got half way though the comments and had to stop those people i don’t understand them. They are filled with such hate and try to say we are the haters and racist..It’s sicken just sicken I couldn’t even finish reading it but my hat off to all of you who went in and stood up for US/PUMA this morning. The website is almost as bad such HATE..
#571 Dragonfly
HEY!!
Good evening…Just popped in to catch up. Did I miss anything?
From The Denver Group’s blog:
“Which brings us to the most important part of this — the nomination process in Denver.
There is a crucial difference between Senator Clinton’s name being “on the ballot” and having her name being placed in nomination. And the difference is between being a genuine candidate and something that is nothing more than a symbolic sham. Both the DNC and Senator Obama’s campaign may be attempting to negotiate a settlement where Senator Clinton’s name is on the ballot but not placed in nomination. They may think that is enough to assuage her voters. They may think that voters can be fooled. Our ads are going to make sure they know that no one is going to be fooled.
We’re going to let them know Senator Clinton’s name on the ballot is not good enough. Her name must be placed in nomination for it to have any meaning so that super delegates have a real choice in deciding the nomination by casting their votes for either candidate. Nothing less is acceptable. And they’re going to know it.”
Kerri, I just read your long…almost a chapter of a book… post on Tom Abrahams site. WAY TO GO to you and ALL the Puma’s who posted today on the ABC site.
Here is the article and post again:
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
#570 bmw60 on 07.18.08 at 6:25 pm
It’s illegal to put in PO boxes…
LOL, good.
What the DNC did is a bigger crime. Got bail, yup. Let them drag me to jail..and I won’t cover my head when the tv camera film.
goandersen has inherited the PUMA SLEUTH badge.
That’s all I can say.
ROFLMAO
Markos of the DailyKos is on MSNBC now, talking about rifts between the Obama and the Left.
Wow, one of the superdelegates actually has a blog (and told the newspapers who he was):
http://www.mrsuper.org/
He calls us the “lunatic fringe”.
David Gregory is trying to push Markos to admit that the rifts are greater than he’s willing to admit.
ahh…so there IS a difference?
I’ll be writing a blog about this soon…I may post it here for feedback first
FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT READ THIS MESSAGE ON THE PUMAPAC ACTION CENTER HERE IT IS:
WHEN I FIRST READ THIS I THOUGHT MURPHY WHOLE WEB SITE WAS SHUT DOWN AND I WAS PRETTY MUCH IRRITATED, UNTIL I GOOGLED PUMAPAC AND UP CAME THIS WEB SITE.
SO, MY QUESTION CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY IT WILL BE SHUT DOWN INDEFINITELY….?
The Puma PAC Action Center will be down indefinitely.
My apologies to my fellow Pumas, but due to apparent differences in opinion on how my Action Center site should be utilized and operated in relation to the PAC, I am no longer willing to put in the time to maintain the site.
For the next several days you can still download flyers, postcards, business cards, etc. from this link.
For questions about Puma PAC or to get any of the information that was contained in this site from here on out, please contact P.U.M.A. PACs founder and Executive Director, Murphy at:
http://blog.pumapac.org
Thank you Murphy for starting this movement. I do respect you and what you’ve done! Keep it up!
And good luck to my fellow Pumas.
Keep fighting! I will, but behind the scenes and silently. God Bless!
Re IRAQ
What the hell is a “timeline horizon?!”
Oh and the 7pm thing I believe means Christina will have something on HER site, not ours.
Rabid animal, I’m telling you.
Haven’t made it too far yet, but I will catch up!
# 72 Whoa Dances, now that a little time has passed, you posted at 10:30, I hope the harshness in your post has dissipated somewhat. We must remember too that there are a rainbow of person’s and personalities here, and we are like a family. We don’t always agree, but we always get over it.
I know you have much love as I do for your fellow Puma’s, perhaps we just hit a nerve today.
Thanks for all you do for us, we appreciate all your hard work and worry. If you have already addressed this in an earlier post, sorry I haven’t made it that far yet.
One Love
595 Maryland Puma
LOL!
That one woman had 4 people on her site. OOOOOO:, I’m scared now!
blah…i’ll write a blog later…
it’s too hot lol (thats my excuse for being lazy)
I’m taking my daughter to the park. I’ll leave some flyers on the bulletin board while I’m there.
BBL
592 Maryland Puma,
let’s go there and watch. :@
#529 mcr – I was also trying to find a better link when on another site noticed they breifly discussed Bush’s intentions to compromise birth control access and saw that you found one. I wonder if any news will inquire to both BO and McCain on thier opinions.
This piece of news is something else I am looking for more info on.
‘The “staff director for the House ethics committee has reportedly resigned,” leaving the committee “somewhat paralyzed.” As a result, “both the House and Senate ethics committees may be operating without a permanent staff director in the runup to the national political conventions,” the Hill reports.
I can’t help to think that was planned or just didn’t want to be a part of it for the staff director to leave considering the circumstances of the poilitical conventions…..
Before I leave…I wrote my thoughts on the almost non existent…existence of the HOUNDS:
I titled this:
“Bow wow wow…yippie yo yippie yay, where my dogs at? Good question…”
BODY:
Here I am, STILL waiting for the HOUNDS to attack…I’m beginning to wonder if the HOUNDS are just scared little pups who piss themselves at the very thought of confrontation.
In nature, a Puma will more likely kill a Hound than the other way around…come on! HOUNDS? Are we being serious here?
I was more than ready to have a few dog fights. A few scraps with some real bad dogs…but alas, silence on the other side of the fence. The muzzle hangs on the gate but not a peep out of the pups…
Could it be? Could the HOUNDS fear the Big Dawg’s army of Big Cats?
Here I am, rolled up newspaper in one hand, leash in the other. I was actually looking forward to beating down the opposition with the daily misogyny and the untrue political section in my local newspaper…I was ecstatic to think I’d be dragging down a few flea infest mongrels and taking them for a walk down memory lane…but I’m beginning to fear I won’t have the chance.
Where are the hounds?
not more likely: MOST likely^^
Are they here yet?? Did anyone bring some Milk Bones?
infest= infested…i give up lol
Wow, one of the superdelegates actually has a blog (and told the newspapers who he was):
http://www.mrsuper.org/
He calls us the “lunatic fringe”.
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How do we know he is a true super delegate I did not see his name anywhere on his blog.
What is he name, do you know? Thanks
Oh, now they want to get PUMA shoes involved.
LOL
We are PUMA PAC, not PUMA.
And we’re uneducated?
Whats her website?
POST PLEASE
PA DEM
Done.
I have seen the nickname MR SUPER somewhere in all my research on SD’s – think he is the one in California that wanted to sell his vote – not sure though
Trish my email is down – send me another list if you want – not leaving for another couple of hours
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/
Hold your nose. The place stinks to high heaven.
Yes, Christina, I said that and you can plaster it all over your website.
They won’t send in the Hounds, just the fleas…..get out the deet!
Ok I got my chocolate Twizzlers and Nyquil
Careful PUMAs – Don’t step in anything!
And be careful not to fall if you do!
Thanks for the post!!
72 DancesWithPumas on 07.18.08 at 10:30 am “My” Action Center??
What the fuck…
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Hi DancesWithPumas
Loved your post, right on, a little in your face, but we are Hillary’s pumas and we can’t take constructive criticism…
But, most of us are followers and not leaders and thus most of us need direction. So be gentle with most of us.
So, DancesWithPumas, I put a question to you:
How do we best guarantee that Hillary’s name with be placed in NOMINATION ON THE FIRST ROLL CALL?
That is our primary goal, now we have all sent our letters to super delegates, telephone and tied up lines request Hillary’s name be nominated.
We need to know, (1) are these tactics having an effect and (2) if not, what is a better tactics..
Getting puma in each state to march up and down in front of the super delegates home offices?
Loved your post, right on, a little in your face, but we are Hillary’s pumas and we can’t take constructive criticism…
THAT SHOULD HAVE READ “AND WE CAN TAKE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM…. FREUDIAN SLIP?
Hell, is that the best they could do??!!
Good evening! Well, just tried to do my part over at the Tom Abraham site. I am really concerned about the tenor of Obama supporters and I also know that it is so easy to get sucked into that mentality. My fervent wish is that we do not represent ourselves in the same hateful way. So here is my plea.
Hello, fellow citizens. I am a PUMApac member with my own beliefs just as I assume others, who follow a different path, have their beliefs. I choose not to support Senator Obama base upon his qualifications, or lack thereof, and not based upon anything else. Therefore, I do not understand all of this presumptuous hate speak. The last time I checked the freedom of speech was still a core tenet of the Constitution, and the freedom to cast one’s vote for the candidate of their choice was still a fundamental democratic value. Sure, it is not easy because with freedom of speech we have to consider and tolerate points of view that differ from our own. But that is also the greatness of our country. Shouldn’t that be respected? Isn’t that what we continually fight for? What concerns me is not that some people choose to support Senator Obama, that is their right, but that within the context of that support there does not seem to be tolerance for those who choose not to support him. I wholeheartedly understand supporting a candidate with passion and commitment, but I do not understand the expressed necessity to annihilate dissenters with hate and false accusation, and that is what I see here and in many other places. Please let us have a lively discussion, but let’s try to keep it respectful.
Thank you.
Anyone ?? Anyone???
Ouch, my heart!
Hillary just said on Inside Edition, defending the media coverage on Nobama’s trip, that she sees nothing wrong with it because either he (BO) or John McCain will be our next president in January.
OUCH,OUCH, OUCH!!!! I need a beer!
Some journalists are finally catching on. Here is one commentary, sent to me by Alice, one of our Hoosier members.
Enjoy,
Heneri
The Audacity of Vanity
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, July 18, 2008; Page A17
Barack Obama wants to speak at the Brandenburg Gate. He figures it would be a nice backdrop. The supporting cast — a cheering audience and a few fainting frauleins — would be a picturesque way to bolster his foreign policy credentials.
What Obama does not seem to understand is that the Brandenburg Gate is something you earn. President Ronald Reagan earned the right to speak there because his relentless pressure had brought the Soviet empire to its knees and he was demanding its final “tear down this wall” liquidation. When President John F. Kennedy visited the Brandenburg Gate on the day of his “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech, he was representing a country that was prepared to go to the brink of nuclear war to defend West Berlin.
Who is Obama representing? And what exactly has he done in his lifetime to merit appropriating the Brandenburg Gate as a campaign prop? What was his role in the fight against communism, the liberation of Eastern Europe, the creation of what George Bush the elder — who presided over the fall of the Berlin Wall but modestly declined to go there for a victory lap — called “a Europe whole and free”?
Does Obama not see the incongruity? It’s as if a German pol took a campaign trip to America and demanded the Statue of Liberty as a venue for a campaign speech. (The Germans have now gently nudged Obama into looking at other venues.)
Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself. There’s nothing new about narcissism in politics. Every senator looks in the mirror and sees a president. Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?
Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted “present” nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.
It is a subject upon which he can dilate effortlessly. In his victory speech upon winning the nomination, Obama declared it a great turning point in history — “generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment” — when, among other wonders, “the rise of the oceans began to slow.” As Hudson Institute economist Irwin Stelzer noted in his London Daily Telegraph column, “Moses made the waters recede, but he had help.” Obama apparently works alone.
Obama may think he’s King Canute, but the good king ordered the tides to halt precisely to refute sycophantic aides who suggested that he had such power. Obama has no such modesty.
After all, in the words of his own slogan, “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for,” which, translating the royal “we,” means: ” I am the one we’ve been waiting for.” Amazingly, he had a quasi-presidential seal with its own Latin inscription affixed to his lectern, until general ridicule — it was pointed out that he was not yet president — induced him to take it down.
He lectures us that instead of worrying about immigrants learning English, “you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish” — a language Obama does not speak. He further admonishes us on how “embarrassing” it is that Europeans are multilingual but “we go over to Europe, and all we can say is ‘merci beaucoup.’ ” Obama speaks no French.
His fluent English does, however, feature many such admonitions, instructions and improvements. His wife assures us that President Obama will be a stern taskmaster: “Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism . . . that you come out of your isolation. . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.”
For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?
We are getting to know. Redeemer of our uninvolved, uninformed lives. Lord of the seas. And more. As he said on victory night, his rise marks the moment when “our planet began to heal.” As I recall — I’m no expert on this — Jesus practiced his healing just on the sick. Obama operates on a larger canvas.
letters@ charleskrauthammer.com
I went back and I can’t see the post that says something about 7:00 HELP…
http://www.zimbio.com/2008+Presidential+Candidates/articles/9161/DNC+Convention+Questions+Answered+Phil+McNamara
Ok I found this site while looking for rules… I must be misreading the second answer, cause it says ” Pledged delegates are not legally “bound” to vote for the candidate they were elected to represent. They can, and have in the past, cast a vote for another presidential candidate at the Convention.” Surely this would make the voters even less important in the selection process…. grrrrrrrrr….
heysandy…
painful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hope she doesnt mean that
reading the posts i notice there’s been a confirmation of Hillary’s name on the ballot…but yet we’re all wondering WHAT Dean really means…
we need him to actually say her name will be on the ballot for nomination.
thats the only way i’ll be satisfied.
u know…Hillary may want the media coverage for *61…imagine when he slips up!!
#615 I think she says what she has to say politically. The fact that she did not say that “the almighty one” would be the next President she said ” either. Leaves that wide open. My opinion only. But a beer does sound good.
You know fellow PUMAs. She just added an air of mystery to us.
People will now be coming in to see us and if they have any sense (unlike her), we’ll probably get a few new members out of this.
Anyone can manipulate and take out of text just what they want. People will now be coming over and read all the text and find out how “great we really are”
THANKS FOR THE PUBLICITY – have at it and get us some more
Hillgirl nice post
Posted by: Kerri | July 18, 2008 at 02:29 PM
I am sorry your candidate has no record of ever helping his own people in Chicago. I am sorry that your candidate has no experience, is racist, sexist, self-centered, do anything it takes to get what he wants politician.
I am sorry that it is staring you right in the face and you cant see it.
All you have left is Obama’s stance on women’s rights, well dear he already flipped on that one or haven’t you heard?
Its a pretty pathetic time when all your candidate can give you is a half-assed stance on women’s issues.
What other experience does he have? What other promises has he made that he hasn’t changed his mind on? Not One!
If that doesnt tell you that he will do and say anything to get elected, I don’t know what will.
BO has taken Hillary’s political platform and calls it his own, he has voted with McCain on FISA, giving immunity to the phone companies who illegally wire-tapped Americans!
Now what part of the Constitution wont BO change to suit his needs?
Hillary voted against immunity, just like she promised, Hillary kept her word to the American people.
As far as calling Pumas sexist that is so ridiculous, we are fighting against sexism, and you do realize that we are both sexes, various colors, various ethnicities, all political parties. We are neither sexist or racists. We are just Americans who are fighting for our rights, and yours as well.
If we win, you win.
We want Hillary to be given a roll call vote with her name in nomination. She deserves it and so do the 18 million Americans who voted for her!
One Love
Here’s one of the posts from Kerri
#615 heysandy on 07.18.08 at 7:05 pm
Ouch, my heart!
Hillary just said on Inside Edition, defending the media coverage on Nobama’s trip, that she sees nothing wrong with it because either he (BO) or John McCain will be our next president in January.
OUCH,OUCH, OUCH!!!! I need a beer!
Unless the delegates and SuperDels step up in Denver, that will be the truth.
Lots more work for us to do PUMAs!
Been on and off all day while trying to catch up on a few things.
Just wanted to say…THANKS 18 MILLION PLUS to Murphy, Maryland PUMA and all the rest of you PUMAS!
Together we will change America!
I don’t mean to make waves or anything but throughout this whole shindig- meaning primaries and now this, what I’d like to know is why hasn’t anyone brought us up, the disabled, what are they going to do for us, we arent rich, middle class, and very close to being on the poor side. I’d just like to know why noone has brought this subject up before, sorry if I stepped on anyones toes.
TREEPUMA
Here’s a little about Allan Brauer, pictures and all.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/allanbrauer
#625 BillieJo
I concur, dear, and am well aware of that. It just hurt to see and hear her say those words. A momentary self-indulgence of “OUCH.”
I sent my letters to super delegates, good?
Hello Pumas, here is the link to the Washington Post article that vets Obama:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701839.html?wpisrc=newsletter
Here is the letter I sent to the author of the article, you may want to send him a letter yourself as this is one of the few unbiased factual reports on Barak Obama I have seen:
Thank you SO much,
On behalf of the American People, Charles, I will say it again….Thank You!, for being a lone voice in the wilderness to finally begin to vet this presumptuous candidate.
If you have read the New Yorker article behind the media Hyped cover then, you already know there is much the American people need to know about Obama.
We are having an inexperienced, self promoting candidate shoved down our throat by a dysfunctional democratic party. Caucuses have been rigged, voters in two states have been disenfranchised, and many dissenters against Obama and his party bosses have been threatened, knocked offline and have suffered continuous verbal abuse.
When we try to contact our duly elected officials to voice our concerns we are getting the cold shoulder. Many officials are down right rude, a large percentage simply are not to be found by the public.
What began with a nomination process has gone so terribly wrong that a very large percentage of the population now believe our democracy to be at risk. This is the second time the American people have chosen a candidate and had the party substitute their choice instead.
We sorely need an advocate of the people in the media forum, not to side with any group but, to present the plain facts that the people need, to make an informed decision on the most important choice in our democracy, who will be the next leader of this great country.
I commend you sir,
Verona Tuten
Also, Jerry Udo is from The Netherlands and he made a donation to Obama? Thought that was illegal.
That is one ugly A$$ website. Very offensive to the eyes.
Actually a little disappointed after all that build-up.
RATING: 1 er 2 , oh I didn’t say that I mean 8
I did NOT say that! What I meant to say was 4.
You misunderstood, I really mean 5.
By Hillary not saying *61 will be the next president like the rest on Kool-Aid but also said or McCain to me it says…”PUMAS keep going and don’t give up! If the DNC has taken the fairness out of Denver, then do what you must! NOBAMA in 2008!”
Did you know that the Republicans are thrilled that Senator Obama is the “presumptive” nominee? Can you hear them laughing as they say “Thank God that John McCain doesn’t have to run against Senator Clinton, because he wouldn’t have a chance to win against her”!? This is what they’re saying. How does it make you feel?
I know how it makes me feel, more determined than ever to help Senator Clinton become the democratic nominee.
Did you know that there are Americans that CAN’T VOTE FOR SENATOR OBAMA? They would rather vote for Democracy than to lose their freedom of choice by supporting a candidate that gamed the system. Perception is everything, and because voters believe that democracy did not prevail, they know it would be wrong to vote for Senator Obama. Our principles, values, and belief in what America stands for won’t allow us to vote for him.
Respectfully, I’m requesting that you URGE the DNC leadership to put Senator Clinton in nomination for the Democratic Convention in Denver, Colorado. I want a “FAIR AND JUST” VOTE, not a symbolic role for Senator Clinton at the convention. I believe that she can be nominated and will “easily” beat John McCain in November.
Voters know what’s going on. This was a horse race and neither candidate had enough pledged delegates to cross the finish line. At the end of the horse race, any horse can come from behind and cross the finish line first when given a chance. This happens in America. We do not “select” a winner before the race is over. We let people see and judge for themselves. However, the horse race was prematurely canceled by the DNC leadership so they could “select” their favored candidate as the winner. They brought in the racing rules board for appearances to try to make it official, but the people at the race did not agree. There was no unity. The people requested to see the historic candidates run and finish the race in Denver. It would be the fair thing to do.
Please help put Senator Clinton in nomination for the convention in Denver. It is up to you to VOTE for the candidate you believe will be most likely to beat the Republican in the general election.
The polls are favoring Senator Clinton over Senator Obama to run against John McCain.
Please DEMAND that you be allowed to VOTE and to fulfill your appointed role as a Super Delegate. It’s not too late to bring democracy back to the Democratic party. Do the right thing. We will support your efforts. Vote for the best Democratic candidate our Party has seen in a generation. She will win in November. It is not too late to prevent ANOTHER general election loss for our Party. We are all counting on you!
I and my fellow pumas believe in you! Show us you believe in free and fair elections. Don’t settle for less.
If my voice is heard, then my children will have a voice, and the world will have a voice. Please, use your voice.
#627 tree
Amen! I’m right there with you and wondering the same thing. We give what we don’t have, generally speaking, and it’s as if we’re lepers.
Thanks, santraps!
Sorry, sandtraps! I misspelled your name.
HEY who went and had fun on the (ahem) antipuma petition and didn’t tell me you were having a squaredance in the barn?
HUH HUH?
LOL
Jhon Benjamin’s Experience
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Credit Analyst
Marine Banshares Inc
based in Chicago
Maryland PUMA, I read that web you posted and it made me sick. My blood is just boiling. I think I could right answer with a million comments regarding that fraud and his corrupt chicago thugs and kool-aid blogging morons. We are PUMA we are for country before party and we WILL take back this corrupt democratic party and they will all be standing the un-employment lines.
nh for Hillary
Yay! Excellent!
Hillgirl np lol—Great job puma bloggers love what you are doing.
552 jbjd on 07.18.08 at 6:07 pm FOX pundit just announced BO called the suggestion that he campaign at the Brandenburg Gate “presumptuous,” that is, he blamed his staff for trying to set this up.
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Obama just threw his staff under the bus, no one is safe near Obama.
It was not me, it is never me, and remember do not talk about Michelle. Arrogance and beyond. He is a legion in his own mind already! The history books have been written already in his mind.
#627 tree … From what I understand *61 is going to heal us all with just one slap from his great hand…lol
All joking aside tho.. I don’t remember any candidate since Bob Dole addressing this issue. I would imagine it is because we disabled voters do not represent a big enuff portion of the electorate to be concerned with.. its a shame to say that, but that’s pretty much my take on it.
Very good news Puma family, in case no one has posted it yet, Rasmussen/Gallup polls are showing that Obama has gone from 22% support among independant voters down to just 3%. THAT is amazing! (Apparently they didn’t like that “get over it”, message from the Obama camp either!)
Spread the Puma love folks, looks like we have a lot more company headed our way from folks that were fooled by Baraks hopey-changy message.
Does anyone have the numbers from what the delegate vote should of been if it was done correctly? I seen it posted and forgot to save it. (:
HeySandy and Tree
Very legitimate point. Disabled Americans are an important sector of our nation too.
ok I was a bad kitty, left a snarky remark for Christina on the blog
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/07/uh-oh–conflict.html?cid=122889028#comment-122889028
Do I have to go to the corner?
Heysandy,
sometimes we are invisible, but at times I think I can make it if only we were allowed at least food stamps, after paying for medications, gas, and whatever else that goes along with a persons disability, as each of us is different , but food stamps would really go along way, at least for me, I never have any food here, I live on Iced tea and water, and at times I do have crackers, I cant afford anything else as I need my meds.
606 Maryland Puma
LMAO! Bring your recording of Hillary Laughs!
613 Hillgirl
Nice work. Easy to read and get right to the point.
#646 CyberFerret
YAY and Double YAY!
Someone seriously needs to send the DNC a life jacket – the ship is sinking quickly.
615 heysandy on 07.18.08 at 7:05 pm
Ouch, my heart!
Hillary just said on Inside Edition, defending the media coverage on Nobama’s trip, that she sees nothing wrong with it because either he (BO) or John McCain will be our next president in January.
OUCH,OUCH, OUCH!!!! I need a beer!
Unless the delegates and SuperDels step up in Denver, that will be the truth.
Lots more work for us to do PUMAs!
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They try to trap Hillary with these question, they try to get her to say something negative, Like as if……
Remember she has only suspended her race, come the convention we will know which way this Puma Pac will run.
Tree and HeySandy
You may be invisible to the politicians, but you are not invisible to us.
Perhaps we PUMAs should ask *61 what his plans are to meet the needs of the disabled.
Medicine costs in this country are grossly overpriced – does his health care plan address the exhorbitant prices of medications?
Even if it does, you can count on him to change the ending of the story.
Disgusting.
A name is placed in nomination if there are
1. signatures from 300 delegates
2. those delegates have to be geographically representative
3. the nominee signs off on being placed in nomination
NONE of that is up to Howard Dean — it’s up to delegates and a candidate.
That’s what you need. If you do have that, Clinton’s name will be in nomination. If not, it won’t.
And keep in mind that delegates can vote for whoever they want on the roll call – the person doesn’t have to be placed in nomination. Delegates have voted for all sorts of folks.
649 prplvette
I left a short note for her. LOL!
She will be so excited to have some activity on her site!
LOL!
#649 prplvette85 – Too funny. Thanks for the laugh.
This has been one helluva day (Fridays usually are). Is it Miller (beer) time? One second thought, I going for the merlot.
Then, I still have some calls to make regarding a local meet-up here in Pittsburgh tomorrow.
Thanks to all of you.
Have a great evening.
TREE -
Have you tried contacting the Drug companies directly.
THey have some special programs that assist with meds.
I see commercials for it on TV and the next time I see it I will get info. Can’t remember who the man is, but he travels around US in bus with info.
And contact your local churches and Food banks for assistance with food.
goandersen
Did I mention I’m glad you’re back!
I assume we’re of like minds on that last website? ROFL
649 prplvette85 on 07.18.08 at 7:28 pm ok I was a bad kitty, left a snarky remark for Christina on the blog
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/07/uh-oh–conflict.html?cid=122889028#comment-122889028
Do I have to go to the corner?
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Christina and her ilk are not worthy of our comments and are not worthy of a visit to her website…
Do not let anyone take us off our primary goal.
Denver Convention, Hillary R. Clinton’s name on the
Nomination for the First Roll Call.
Well good night my fellow pumas, talk at you all tomorrow, have a great evening
TREEPUMA
Hey guys, just dropped in to see if one of those crazy bloggers over at Tom’s blog substantiated some veiled threat about showing us what blogging is at 7 oclock. In reading through I see Billy Jo quoting a post she says is by me. That is not one of my posts. The author names are at the BOTTOM of the posts. Therefor, my post would have been right above that.
So…we don’t have any radicle Obama-bots infiltrating our blog so far? (that we know of, as the 7 oclock threat suggested?)
Night SunnyPA
Enjoy one for me. I’m stuck with the Nyquil.
#495 Energy: Thank you for this particular link to the article about being tagged as a “racist”. I’ve been pacing behind this keyboard and now need to vent.
Had to stop watching the video after the first minute–for it was a reality check to my past and brought in a flood of not-so-good memories.
This Puma was raised in the South (one of the larger metropolitan areas) and after college, migrated out here to the less-oppressive airs of the West Coast. As a child from the 60s, I’d witnessed ongoing day and night TV reports involving police beatings, snarling dogs and fire hoses on innocent blacks, scary reminders of the KKK’s existence, rebel flags, as well as seeing for myself the small signs posted in restaurant doorways and swimming pool gates “no coloreds allowed”.
This was “racism”.
Antisemitism was also part of this scenario, which I’d personally experienced during this same time period.
All quite the stark and ugly childhood visual to have retained all these years.
Today, I continually read and see Americans calling other Americans “racists” based only on the fact that we disagree with one Presidential candidate’s background to lead. Recently, like many of us, I too was called a “racist” by one of my friends for simply voting for Hillary in our Primary. This name calling has risen to the ridiculous and is totally absurd. It IS strikingly evident people don’t know what the word really means. I realize too that most citizens across the the nation who never personally witnessed and experienced real “racism” may never fully understand the word’s meaning. Your article and the video brings it to the forefront. Real “racism”, reversed or not, is pure hatred at it’s highest level and dangerous to any modern society.
It saddens me deeply to see all this churned-up once again in my lifetime. And within such a critical time in our Country’s history. As several other Pumas have blogged, Nobama, his ‘cult’ supporters, and our DNC leaders desperately need to reform and stop using these divisive tactics in order to gain votes.
The ability to disagree on a constructive level, in tandem with the freedom to cast our votes based on a candidate’s character and credentials is “democracy”.
I pray it, and our PUMA cause, will prevail.
Msbin
I want to say montel williams, I’m not sure, he had a talk show at one time, yes I have seen the commercials, who knows it couldnt hurt to find out
Be back later, going to see Batman……
The new Former BO supporters site already has 1,400 members and counting. They also have a couple of really good videos.
http://formerobamasupporters.com/
Hey Slyt2…Here’s the post you’re looking for. I am still reading through this thing and when I came across it I came on by.
I wanna say: I’m very proud of the PUMA responses I’ve read!
We SOOO outclass these people…I’d be shamed into shutting up if I were one of them.
Anyone know: If the person in charge of the action center has really abdicated of if we have been hacked?
661 Maryland PUMA
No, but thank you!
That is a sorry piece of you know what… look at bottom left. “Tips” go to the DNC
There was an odd odor there as well…..
MSBinMD
That would be Montel Williams.
Tree here is a link for perscription assistance https://www.pparx.org/SelectMedication.php
PRPLVETTE -
Priceless! Said in a way that THEY will understand.
671 Cyberferret
No, we have not been hacked.
#649 prplvette85 I loved your comment, I can’t believe she is posting addresses on there.
CyberFerret
Not sure what is up with that. It was news to all of us. It’ll get resolved. Until then, onward!
655 Maryland PUMA
Hot Totties are better, and more fun!
Maryland PA – get well soon.
You did an excellent job moderating today. Thanks for all you do.
See you tomorrow.
Pplvette
I am SOOOOO Jealous!
MARYLAND & TREE
Thats right and he is has some Maryland ties.
Sandtraps thank you,
thank goodness they have a toll free number
Thanks Sunny. I’d just like for my head to quit thumpin.
Must’ve been the smells I encountered in my web travels.
ok, good night again, time to lay down, I just love this family that I’m over doing it lolol, from me thats alot of credit you all deserve
Did someone say “hot Tottie”?!?!? Mmmm.
Oh well, I’ve got to stay focused … at least for another couple of hours.
Have a great evening
Tree…ask your doctor..he filled out a paper and sent it to the co that makes my daughters meds and she gets her meds right from the co now
Tree hope it helps – not sure but physician offices usually have some one that can be assistance or contact your local hospital social service dept for info on applications through the drug companies– I know it red tape but it should be worth it.
Well that was good. The Obamabots couldn’t keep up with us lol
TREE
and here is Montels RX assistance site.
Now you have two -
THat is you daily action assignment. No one in this country should be hungry – Just ticks me off!
http://www.myrxadvocate.com
As I said above, we PUMA’s should be proud! LIS before, the amount of respect we should bear one another for being so brave to speak out and act out on this matter when all the world is seemingly blind and ready to cast stones…as well as–we are doing it with grace!
I thank HRC and Murphy and every PUMA in our Pac who carries the HIGHEST GOOD intentions when they post.
You know what? Sometimes we MAY say some things in here that are…’of color’ a bit, but they are just our opinions that we are unburdening upon one another after another endless day battling the public manipulation! We exhaust the vitiriol build-up here, amongst ourselves and then pull our selves together, stand up oh-so-straight and with our head’s up high we speak our truths.
What amazes me is..these people think we’re scripted!
I see words that I never USED before joining PUMA being used by many of our members now. They were a part of my known vocabulary but I’d never had the need to utilize them before. I have a feeling most others of us would agree.
The words Disseminate and Subjugate are currently the ones I am referring to, as I notice so many PUMA’s using those words and recall, clearly how they flowed into my commentary posts before even I found PUMA Pac! I am not suggesting that any one has copy-catted, not at all. I’m simply saying, these things are TRUTH, they are the valid HISTORY of what has been passed off as the United States’ democratic process of the democratic presidential nominee selection process of 2008.
That is why we all are suddenly become well acquainted with these words. It’s a shame that they are such horrid words, but, they are the truth.
I believe firmly that following that, wherever it takes you, is the true path to CHANGE and the only way for ‘better things’ to come into being.
I’m sooo sleep deprived, but I donno, I am still crusading here. LOL. Do let me know when I stop making any kind of sense, ok?
PS> don’t forget, Tom’s site there, the author’s names are listed UNDER the posts. I was confused at first as well, but I figured it out by looking at my own compositions.
Lots of Light and Life and Love to you all.
tree i go to Leid Ambulatory here in Las Vegas. They have a office in there that is similar to social services and i get three meds a month for free. They are all over $100 a month. I know they come here to me 3 months at a time and from Kentucky.
Tree,
Google Angel Food Ministries and see if they are in your area. They have really good food and it is about half the cost of the grocery store. We have had to start using them because everything has gotten so expensive. There is no application. It is for everyone. It was started to help people eat healthy even though the costs of groceries were getting so high.
Leid Ambulatory is also through the County Hospital and their pharmacies
Veritas09 – I read your posting – Looks like we’re both concerned about the MSM – Although I’m beginning to think I’m one of the few that still watches -
Hills the one – Thanks for the welcome -
To all the cubs in the pack, I’d like to say you are experiencing grassroots democracy at its finest. You will have an endless supply of topics for term papers. One of which is how the MSM did not take note of this tremendous movement.
#669 Greenfun there are several other groups that opened that were former Obama supporters and they are really growing
#695 Tunedintopumas ,
Welcome. I don’t post a lot but I lurk everyday. I will put my 2 cents in when I see something that inspires me to. You will like it here. It is a good group.
Michael Scheuer (author) on FOX states
OB is surrounding himself with, and I quote!
“Geriatric hasbeens from the Clinton administration”
to prepare him for his trip Internationally
Has the word “respect” been removed from the language.
“#552 jbjd on 07.18.08 at 6:07 pm
FOX pundit just announced BO called the suggestion that he campaign at the Brandenburg Gate “presumptuous,” that is, he blamed his staff for trying to set this up.”
I think I should use this one for the Jack It Up Baby segment on No We Won’t PUMA
Over at “thevote.blog”,
Dan wrote (while pretending to be a PUMA):
“I too am a lifelong democrat who will be voting for John McCain!
McCain offers much that is important to democrats: oil drilling everywhere, tax cuts for the rich, he’s against gay marriage and gay rights, he’s against a woman’s right to choose, he’s against funding for women’s health issues, and he will likely appoint two supreme court justices to overturn Roe v. Wade, and most importantly – he’s for many more years of war in Iraq.
Sure, I have to sell out every faux principle of the democrat party to vote for McCain – but I don’t care. I won’t vote for that Muslim terrorist who happens to be of darker skin than I.
To hell with the rules of the democrat primary – to hell with the voters. Hillary was robbed.
Donate to PUMA today. Help overturn Roe v Wade! Vote McCain.”
Posted by: Dan | July 18, 2008 at 06:42 PM
If you go to that site: http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
And click on Dan or Christina’s name under their post, it will take you to the same stinky website:
Is anyone recording these posts? I donno about you all, but I’ve had a LOT of practice blogging since oh, about May…and Tom Abrahams offered us the opportunity to pull out the stops in speaking of the very home and heart of our movement.
I would love to know that I could get a scrap-book sometime in the near future of this article and all the comments. I am proud of my writing, and of course, MORE proud of my fellow Pac’ers. Also, it’s a pretty good selection of the low-brow mob we’ve been tirelessly battling against.
#696 sandipuma
Excellent. i have been blogging the link over at huffpo.
646 CyberFerret52 wrote:
“Very good news Puma family, in case no one has posted it yet, Rasmussen/Gallup polls are showing that Obama has gone from 22% support among Independent voters down to just 3%. THAT is amazing! (Apparently they didn’t like that “get over it”, message from the Obama camp either!)”
I bet a lot of those Independents are “PUMAs” (whether they know about us or not)… There are probably many among them, too, who are Dems who have already left the Dem party out of the dissatisfaction about their “Selectee” and what transpired in this year’s Primaries. There will probably be more that will make the switch!
“Independent” is the place to take refuge when you’ve gotten fed up with your party. Switching to Independent is also a great way to protest.
I think the increasing number of Independents deciding to not vote for BO is one indication of the “PUMA effect/influence” and our work to raise awareness.
Remember, there are a lot of Independents out there (I think even more than Republicans, from what I recall when I did some research a while back).
*61 trip aboard will be more exposure than *61 had bargained for. Any error and we know it is coming will not only be on the three networks but around the world!
Hello and well met Tunedin
You sound experienced in such matters. Dare we hope a new ‘leader’ has joined our pack?
#624 Billie Jo
Better to counter with the facts. For example, you could say, ‘I understand that it might appear Senator McCain does not support equal pay but, maybe, he thought there was a problem with the drafting of the bill. I know he is committed to equal pay because he pays his male and female staffers equally. However, while Senator Obama says he supports equal pay, in fact, he pays his female staffers considerably less than his male staffers.’ And then, give her a web site.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/30/sexist-obama-pays-his-female-staff-less-than-the-males/
BTW, probably should have said earlier, I am Sheri at No We Won’t PUMA Radio. You guys are fun! Many times in the evening, I find myself surfing the blogs and this is one of the ones read! So keep up the good work. I find and see lots of good info here. And obviously I am a contributing member in goodstanding with PUMApac. I do all the PUMA PROWLS too!
Sheri
Thanks for hanging with us no – good PUMAs.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/18/has-puma-met-its-match/
Warning: Nasty article ahead. Takes bits from Christina’s site.
Kerri
Am pdf – ing it now.
47 pages!
Dances with Pumas – This is Fred
I so totally agree with you that we need to re-group and know why we are here. It is not to hear our own “voices”, it is not a social site, it is not a place where we put our own feelings first. A lot of us have demanding jobs but we do our part in whatever way we can – how many of you have actually broken a sweat, in the middle of the night handing out flyers.
How many of you have quietly called who ever that needs calling, sent out letters etc. I say it is not enough. We get 700 – 1000 blogs but all talking in circles.
We have a damn serious task that is pretty much overwhelming. While we pat ourselves on the back after sending out a few emails and a few calls, the Obama followers are on the streets, doing everything in their power to get their chosen one elected.
I don’t know about you… but I think we need to let go of our negative attitudes and know exactly why we are here. If you don’t know the reason what this site is for and why we are here, then it is pointless and hopeless for Murphy and the rest to work our hearts out.
Lets please rally around and let our country men and women know why Obama is not feasible for our country- let them know that we love our country and we love Hillary and because of that we cannot have Obama elected.
PLEASE !!! There is only a month left and if any of you think what we do is enough to displace a media darling like Obama, I humbly suggest you think again.
Interesting day today at Abrahams. Christina and Stacey were foaming at the mouth. I hope Murphy given me a ride in her new BMW. Do they even have a clue as to what a Political Action Committee is and that it has to be registered with Internal Revenue? I refuse to waste my time debating such rabid Obamabots. It’s not fair to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
hiya taggles
Let me guess, Mr. Christopher is at it again. I don’t even have to look.
655 BillieJo
If you’re going to cut and paste email senty to registered members of PUMA pac, at least delete the contact persons’s personal email address.
Maybe the moderator will do that courtesy.
#203 COSMETA
Anything that I am a part of I get back to people right away and if I don’t have an answer I even get back and tell them that I’m still looking so I don’t want it out there that I am not responding to people. I pride myself on being very conscientious so I just wanted to clear it up that I didn’t shirk any of my responsibility. It sounds like there was just some kind of misunderstanding. Thank you.
Regarding your post. I do not know why you thought I was taking care of you tube videos. I never said to my knowledge that I was handling that. I did get your videos but I thought they were just for my enjoyment.
OMG that woman is a PRESCHOOL teacher.
655 BillieJo
Would you keep me informed about this event? I’m not in CA, but have long standing contacts there. alohapuma at gee mail dot com
Thanks!!
#707 Hi Taggles 1.
#563 BMW,
Please, altleast give me a link back when you post an entire article off the site. Luckily, this is one of a few sites where I really don’t mind the post being submitted.
Anyways, I just stopped by to check the posts. If I don’t make it back this weekend, everyone have a good one.
PS. I haven’t added up today’s totals but as of this morning I had over 27,000 emails sent out thru our sites email initiative. We’re also drawing quite a bit of attention from BO supporters as I have had to come block around 150 comments at this post alone today. They’re not quite as cordial as the people here.
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/last-stand-email-initiative-for-puma.html
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/last-stand-email-initiative-for-puma.html
DWP
Something I need to take care of?
Taggles -
Know we are happy to have you.
Love your radio.
Assignment completed: E-mails sent.
Just finished reading it..finally!
I meant my last post where I said, I’ve said all I have on the subject…for today anyway.
I hope it’s not too expensive, yet absolutely huge, and glorious and well…all that’s good in America, at this point. I imagine in 100 years it’d be priceless, as well. Of course, to us Puma’s…it already is and hasn’t even been compiled yet!
I think the posts are falling in quality now though, even from Pumas. Seems our temper has grown short or something. (and I don’t mean the foolish fake post) I SO enjoyed and was proud of the posts that deal RESPECTFULLY with these people, yes, even though they refuse to grant us the same courtesy. I suggest that if you’ve cited all your reasons for PUMA activism and put out your rally call, cited all you have, etc, just let the bots at each other. We win by having the truth, for one, and staying mature. Let’s not ‘stoop’ just to keep the arguement going, eh?
Maryland Puma: I am correct in hoping for a beautiful hard-cover edition of some of the best blogs and growls we PUMA’s have and will continue to potentiate?
Fred. I agree. 30 days is not long
If I’m late to the party on these suggestions, then excuse me. I (humbly..sort of) suggest the following:
Geographic based groups with a point person.
Meet-ups with group canvasing or PUMA events after the meet-ups.
A Welcome Wagon reception for Dr. Dean at every stop in the south.
We have people working on other projects, Denver, research, possible boycotts, call-ins, but I think the physical presence also has to happen.
If this is in process, great!
The media piece seems to be going very well.
Texassherry – Thanks for the welcome!
Kerri – LOL – You flatter me! – I’m just one of many who can not believe what happened to Hillary – A woman of substance being pushed out of the arena by Obama, truly an empty suit, with alot of help by the MSM and senior Democrats – Ted Kennedy and now Princess Caroline. It was not a fair fight.