To A STRANGER
by: Walt Whitman (1819-1892)
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- PASSING stranger! you do not know how longingly I look upon you,
- You must be he I was seeking, or she I was seeking, (it comes to me as of a dream,)
- I have somewhere surely lived a life of joy with you,
- All is recall’d as we flit by each other, fluid, affectionate, chaste, matured,
- You grew up with me, were a boy with me or a girl with me,
- I ate with you and slept with you, your body has become not yours only nor left my body mine only,
- You give me the pleasure of your eyes, face, flesh, as we pass, you take of my beard, breast, hands, in return,
- I am not to speak to you, I am to think of you when I sit alone or wake at night alone,
- I am to wait, I do not doubt I am to meet you again,
- I am to see to it that I do not lose you.
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happy full moon sisters and brothers of PUMA
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keep on keeping on PUMA family, never forget why.
and don’t forget Seneca Falls tomorrow.
From: Boowitch13 (quote)
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Added: July 12, 2008
Remember Seneca Falls- The fight isn’t over yet.
If we don’t say something now then it’s just going to get worse.
Wrong is wrong and we need to speak up and be loud.
Even the media is starting to admit there are a lot of pissed off people b/c we’re not all blind of how things were “controlled”. Obama voted “yes” to FISA after campaigning that he would not take away people’s Constitution rights.
Hillary campaigned that she wouldn’t vote for it and guess what? She didn’t. Obama is a fraud. He has been right from the beginning. Now others are seeing this as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaK4kZxCtCA
Thanks D I just posted this in the last thread, but hit enter at the same time you started a new thread, so I will post this again:
Thanks guys, for the warm welcome! T D will be on this Sunday. Will be fun and informative, transparency will be the topic. And of course Will, will be there too. We have a couple other guests that will be on as well. One fella who wrote a song for Pumas and Deb will be on to talk about the PUMA Conference in DC.
But really what makes the show fun is the listeners and callers. I do read the chat room! Many of you are very witty and funny!
And let’s not forget murphy’s 1st show, “Meet Me In Denver” tomorrow at 9pm eastern on the NoQ Radio Station. I know I won’t miss it.
I don’t know if murphy is taking calls, but be sure to call in if she is, don’t be afraid to ask anything….. ha ha ha
Thanks Again! It really is about everyone of us working toward the common goal and if we don’t stop we will make a huge difference.
I may not be #1, but at least I made somebody’s Top Ten tonight (I hope).
My Dear PUMA, we can make it, we will pull through anything together. We’ve only just begun, we are so fresh! Yet there is a real array of energy against us. But if we stand on our democratic principles, our Bill of Rights, our responsibility to each other and our posterity, we can figure out anything from that starting point. The Basics. Our right to govern for ourselves and each other. I hope that out of this soon our early leaders emerge, to stand together for everyone who has no voice, and to give them their voice. We know what is right and what is wrong. Lets stand together and fix this. Lets get it done! Lets Roll.
oh yeah, give me that Walt Whitman vibe anytime, but you rock Taggles.
thanks for doing the radio Sheri. Seriously cool radio. Love ya!
759 Mary Beth613
I think it is generally understood that if someone asks for something in a busy room, and those present don’t have the info to give, they don’t respond, otherwise you’d have 50 people posting “I don’t have that information”.
The other thing is, often someone will quietly go off and researc the answer, and this may take longer than 1, 5, 10, 60, 280, 4500, minutes.
So Murphy, you read Whitman. He’s sounds a lot better than Emerson, the comma guy. I think he hated using periods. Frustrates me no end.
That has to be one of the loveliest pictures for a thread–just love it, and the poem as well-thanks to the creative mind who put it there.
———Is the media waking up from their stupor?
I think so. Tonight Lou Dobbs was smokin’ he was so furious at the ineptitude of the Democrats’ for selecting a nominee that has such little knowledge of the true depth of the Iraq War and other foreign affairs.–When you simply look at the fact of that and how much must be filled in by 300 or so advisors–some of whom do NOT know what they are talking about—it outlines a very big zero.
You are all always number 1 with me!!!
i don’t k now why, but I have been number 1 twice today… sooooooo what Barb
you ppl do need to co-ordinate with each other though so you have a timed day to day schedule though…that everyone knows.
What you are doing is great, but I just think that it would be better if you could publish a schedule and links that we can always find.
Murphy
If you need an Action Center website…
I got skillz.
Beautiful photo and poem.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/show.aspx?userurl=nqr&year=2008&month=07&day=19&url=No-Quarter-Radio-Live-Internet-Talk-1
A CALL ABOUT REZKO IS ON NOW
Is there an update on Senator Clintons debt??
bmw60:
Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. THIS is the life!
Love the poem.
I think when we pull this off — get Hillary at the top ‘o the ticket and WIN — it will go down as one of the greatest social endeavors in our nation’s history.
Love the PUMAs.
#15 – DWP
You have mail.
Leeds is a cheap vodka….? LOL, that’s the best I can do on that score Sandi.
Ech, I’m sooo out of it. Need sleep. MUST sleep. LOL
Any NY PUMA’s here? Have you signed up to the local group? I’m in NYCgirl’s group. We’re trying to get a flyer going and get our butts out there signing people up. I’m hoping next weekend we can have our first community outreach event. So, if you’re in downstate NY/longisland or even Jersey close ’nuff to Manahttan, please be sure you’re joined up to the group.
This is the home page, I would imagine you could join up through there somewhere.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NY-NJ_PUMA_Pac/
Yeah, Whitman is saying, I know you so well … though you are a stranger, not to me … I see you, I know you well.
Hillary “you are not invisible to me”
Skillz, we got ‘em. Just tell us what u need, Murphy.
Maryland Puma, it was #655
sorry.
Could we have a mass e-mail to the news stations sending correspondents to cover Obama that did not cover McCain?
roxy4hill2:
Found out ealier today at the Confluence that on July 20th Ms. Clinton will have an announcement regarding her campaign fundraising.
As I’ve posted before it could be the news about her debt that all you pumas have been waiting and paying for.
Okie, PUMAs.
Now that Murphy is back in the den, I’m gonna go lie down.
Peace and love to all of you my brothers and sisters.
MarylandPUMA
26 maxgrader
Thanks I do hope it is good news!
Thank you, Maryland PUMA. Job well done!
#23 Puma Allie
LOL!
Night Ma Puma! Sleep well. GREAT work…as usual!
#24 – DWP
Done.
#32 MarylandPUMA
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
#30 DancesWithPuma
send a post at the website above. I would love to share ideas with you, I think you have a very creative talent.
#15 DancesWithPumas on 07.18.08 at 9:09 pm, WROTE TO,
[[ Murphy
If you need an Action Center website…
]]
I got skillz.
I have some very limited basic skills and would be willing to help.
- I know basic html coding
- I know how to upload/download thru FTP
- I have my own cuteFTP software
- I have my own website submission software for listing with search engines
- I have DreamWeaver software I am learning for web page building
- I know some graphic basics, creating, resizing, inserting codes etc.
I have basic WordPress skills
I have basic Forum skills
What I dont know is CSS but I could manage working with a template.
An action center can be place inside of this site, for example,
http://www.pumapac.org/action
http://www.pumapac.org/action/index.html
http://www.pumapac.org/action/2008-07-01_act.html
http://www.pumapac.org/action/2008-07-02_act.html
http://www.pumapac.org/action/2008-07-03_act.html
etc
Creating new directories and files through FTP is easy.
I just don’t want to do action letters… because my grammer is not good enough, and I make too many typos. Plus I really hate doing email. But if I can help in other areas would be willing to.
HRC Campaign Aides Buy 2012 Website
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/hrc_campaign_aides_buy_2012_we_1.php
#759 Marybeth613
If you were looking for HRC’s email I did give you that but Im not sure which post it was. I can go find it again if you still need it.
Murphy: I posted downstairs but I don’t know if there was an answer or whatever. I’d like a growl that included sending thankyou/encouragement to HRC. We can surely tack this on to one of our daily actions, yes? Do we have a valid email addy for her?
Now that I’ve remembered to say that again, and I’ve pushed the grass-roots thing for my stomping grounds – NY, whoo-whoot! Okay, I really should go. I’ve been up for well over 24 hours just tirelessly eating/breathing PUMA and our crusade. Thank you all for bearing with me, as I’ve a feeling I may have been more than usually questionably coherent at times.
I realize I’m always offering generic offers of ‘help’ without saying what I’m capable of. Truthfully, I’ve never done any of this stuff and have not had to try my hand at much of what you ‘leaders’ do. However, I’m pretty competent, usually, and capable of learning and taking direction. Therefor, if you need a body/mind to do something, even on a somewhat regular basis, I’ll do my best for us all.
Gonna sign off now and listen to fox talk about th biased media coverage. Hope that they mention that it started with HRC long before Mccain. Oooh…”there’s no question that the networks are compeltely in Barack Obama’s camp.” I’m liking it!
Good night Puma’s, blessed be!
Puma: Vigiliant, Fearless, Potent!
mmmm. Email me with the info, please. I’m doing it again. Kerriwyn at aol
Hey, I said I was fearless. Sorry, I’m tooooooo tired to keep looking. MUST FORCE MYSELF TO SHUT DOWN NOW. LOL
Evening, trying to catch up from downstairs. Yowza a lot to go through.
I went to look at justsayyes to koolaid er democracy and I have to say I am scared.
Have you people seen that place?!!??!!
My god she has, and I know it’s hard to believe, FOUR posters. My god FOUR!!!!
PUMA has indeed met its match. Now we must be the underdog to almighty whats her face.Oh the horror oh the shame.
I will have to sleep with the light on.
Someone hold me. Whats worse she has branded PUMA PAC republicans and racists. (gasp). OH my that is something so new. Who would have ever seen these lies coming?
Snowtiger running through the night screaming in terror.
TOPIC: Tom (abc guy’s) coverage
OK I’m going to get it off my chest first so I can post more positive things after.
Frankly the blog about our site today was very disappointing! If anything it not only cast doubts on our groups sincerity and mission, it also would leave the average reader very confused about PUMA.
I say, move on to the next reporter, I don’t think this reporter understands PUMA. At all. Maybe he has too many deadlines (what’s new in the world of media)?
Don’t bother posting there or doing damage control or whatever it is you feel compelled to do, use your time more wisely.
Meanwhile let’s just find a better reporter with more time to do justice to the PUMA story.
“JUST” my opinion (based on my 20+ years working with media, “is all”).
* * *TOPIC: PUMA’s Mission Statement * * *
What happened to all of the descriptors everyone sent in to mamapuma last week?
Suggestion: Some of those phrases & descriptors need to be prominently posted on our site so that we speak with One clear voice. Then reporters – no matter how busy – have no excuse to get confused about why we are PUMA’s.
Read downstiars that Hillary said in defense of 61′s trip to Europe that either “O” or Senator McCAin will be our next president. If the quote is accurate, seems Hillary isnt much of a “O” supporter.
I find it encouraging.
Just like her comment on getting her hair done while “precious” exercised. Gee, code anyone?
hillstheone:
Are you referring to Tom…as in Abrahams? Isn’t that guy registered here at PUMA?
I’m not very trusting of the media, so I’m wondering his intentions.
Hi, I’m back again with my gmail address, now will someone please tell me how to forward my mail from gmail to Outlook Express?
Thanks and blessings,
1lilwitch44(Witchy 1, 2Witchy,Witchy4hil)
#40 snowtiger on 07.18.08 at 9:28 pm, WROTE,
[[ Evening, trying to catch up from downstairs. Yowza a lot to go through.
I went to look at justsayyes to koolaid er democracy and I have to say I am scared.
Have you people seen that place?!!??!! ]]
I’ve been out for a few hours and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
ssssssPlain please.
What place???
Where???
What posters?
#40 snowtiger,
I just went back over there and found out one of her posters, “Dan”, is her husband. LOL! She only has three guest posters.
Chalk this day up to the full moon.
I’m serious. Ever work in an ER during a full moon? It will make a believer out of anyone.
So chill, kittens. Warm milk, a strong frosty margarita, cold brew, lemonade; take a long, lazy, hot bath and sharpen those claws while you’re at it. Whatever it takes.
We are good. But everyone has a bad day now and then.
Remember: Full moon. Don’t worry about it.
Stay strong.
maxgrader:
yes, he’s joined so he can comment, but he’s also a reporter. His blog on his news site today was just out in left-field, I thought.
TOPIC: Hilarious
greenfun’s comment about Keith Olbermann last night was hilarious:
I’m pretty sure ‘Doberman’ suffers from ……….DUNNH to DUNH-DUN—-ED–(erectile dysfunction) . It’s really a tough, tough situation. We would probably be stupid and irrational too if we had that condition. My heart goes out to him. I can’t go on-I’m all choked up.
Dragonfly:
Thanks for posting the washington post clip earlier today!
So…Hillary should address us about her debt on Sunday? (is that right?)
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I need to finish my company’s financing reports (fun fun) but I just want to say this to everyone:
I know that sometimes a post may offend you, sometimes you may not agree with what another PUMA says. But the important thing to keep in mind is that no matter what our individual opinions, we are all in this for the same reasons.
We all believe the DNC had this planned from the beginning
We all believe Hillary was betrayed (and so were we)
We all fear the prospect of a *61 Presidency
We’re all working hard to ensure Hillary’s name is on the ballot for nomination. We share the belief that she has deserved the right to fight for this nomination.
We’re all that’s left of the Democratic party and we’re willing to put our hearts and souls into this each and everyday. And for that, this country will only prosper.
When Hillary is President, we’ll finally be able to sit back and enjoy the well deserved fruits of our noble and righteous labor
If anyone has a place where independents can file a complaint about being turned away during the primaries here in California I would appreciate a link. Seems a friend of my sister had it happen to her. I just found out about it this morning.
She was asked who she was voting for (Hillary) and was told she couldn’t because she wasn’t a registered Democrat.
She will be joining soon.
35 cosmeta
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#45 Cosmeta
Some new antipuma site called “just say yes to democracy” I will try and find the link for you. It’s down stairs.
#46 Antifish. Roflmao. Thats too good.
35 cosmeta
Also, Ive been using Dreamweaver for 8 or so years…
if you need any assistance, don’t hestiate to ask.
Hi hill:
Can you post his link? I don’t read the guy or his cohorts much anymore (my apologies to Mr. Abrahams if he’s reading us tonight. It’s just he media has earned our distrust in them).
So, hill… that link. I’d like to read what Mr. Abrahams had to say about PUMA. Thanks.
tonight is a full moon… that is a powerful time to: set an intention, ask the universe,… create. So get outside in the light and not only howl at the moon, give some serious thought to EXACTLY what is is you would love to see/experience and write it down as if it were an order you are placing – fully expect it to be filled!!!
i am expecting the truth to be emerging, the light to dawn fully and completely, and, Hillary to find she has kept all of her delegates AND many more have actually swung over to her now that the truth is out!!! Bring on the convention!!!
Guess no one likes my idea #25 so I am off to get addresses and will do tomorrow.
TOPIC: Tom (abc reporter) again
maxthegrader:
I just went back to look at that BLOG site. It’s at
http://thevote.abc13.com/
In all fairness to the reporter, I now see he had written a much _better_ and more accurate description of this group on his July 14 blog.
The newer post I think would be rather confusing to someone reading about PUMA for the first time.
However the older (better) story is down at the bottom of the page, FYI.
I have a question about the media. Aren’t the news channels suppose to give equal time to each candidate???
We all know in the primary that Hillary got maybe 10% of the coverage that Obama got. Isn’t this against the FCC rules???
Cosmeta.
yestodemocracy.com
Couldn’t copy and paste. My comp wouldn’t let me. Smart comp.
#40 snowtiger, I am laughing my @ss off
#60 hillstheone – that is a good idea. can you research that? might be something we could send to Tom Abrahams.
#58 4hillinca,
I think it’s a great idea for a prowl. You should send it to Maryland Puma.
Hi 4HillinCa,
You idea of reaching out to the media is good, but I think our time is better spent expressing our dissatisfaction with their gender bias issues.
The media needs PUMA “conditioning” so that when Hillary is up against McCain in the Fall, the coverage won’t be so shrill and sexist. Our Hillary deserves fair coverage.
First place we should start in my opinion is a pounce on msnbc.
By the way yesterday I posted a lot of information about the ownership of msnbc & no one commented about it.
If you ask me I think it’s always important to look behind the surface of things to get the real motives…
#57 Donnas,
How many from the circles are here? I noticed quite a few. Kinda makes me wonder.
Must focus on getting HIllary ‘s name in nomination. Has the dnc said anything of value lately regarding the nomination, not just the roll call?
362 Dragonfly.
I am hiding under my bed atm. Makes it hard to type.
blogtalk radio re Rezko is facinating guys!
#34 PumaAllie
” send a post at the website above. I would love to share ideas with you”
Thank you and would you mind emailing me at gee male? Thanks.
Dragonfly,
Hi, I think your comment is meant for hillaryistheone!
Sorry our names are so similar!! I told her she should just call me shorty…
“Snowtiger running through the night screaming in terror,” too funny!
All of us need to go outside, in the cleansing light of the full moon, and re charge our positive energies…. Let the light surge its positive energies thru your body and mind.
YA I am a bit unbalanced, but the meds help…lol
Re-posting for “oneforall”
oneforall
Native Americans are beautiful people. I’ve read jillions of books on different tribes including Cheyenne, Sioux, Hopi, Navajo and Lakota. I’m told I have some Alaskan tribe in my family tree somewhere. Of all of the tribes, I like Lakota traditions a lot.
There are a lot of similarities between the tribes even though each is distinctly different. Some common beliefs that I like are seeing the sky as masculine and the earth as feminine; also importance of the number 4 (the 4 directions), the belief that you can’t really own the land, and the idea of the vision quest. I also love the myth of the white buffalo.
Thanks for sharing your background with us! I think it’s great that so many tribes donated a lot of money towards Hillary’s campaign. I’ve no doubt they will do so again if needed!
#71 Hills,
I tell you its horrifying horrifying I say!!!! When I can I am going over there and post. It is wise to confront your fears.
The truly scary part is that that woman is a pre school teacher.
Now that is scary.
roxy4hill2, thanks for finding me, I didn’t realize I was down there all alone!
I talk to myself sometimes though
should we be following up on what happened and questioning the caucus process?
is there anything I could do?
oneforall
One more thing I want to tell you, I took the day off work today and I went to a cool hot springs I’d never been to. Before it became a public place it was used by the native americans.
The energy there was great. I believe there are some places on the planet that are definite power spots.
Anyway (back to Hillary), I think it’s really interesting how much support she has from the Native American community.
Snowtiger
Seriously you’ve got me scared, haha!
Seriously #2, maybe I should change my name to hills, I kind of like it.
This is from downstairs. I am reposting.
#203 COSMETA
Regarding your post. I do not know why you thought I was taking care of you tube videos. I never said to my knowledge that I was handling that. I did get your videos but I thought they were just for my enjoyment. Anything that I am a part of I get back to people right away and if I don’t have an answer I even get back and tell them that I’m still looking so I don’t want it out there that I am not responding to people. I pride myself on being very conscientious so I just wanted to clear it up that I didn’t shirk any of my responsibility. It sounds like there was just some kind of misunderstanding. Thank you.
#64 Thanks I will
#65 Thank you for input. My computer was not well yesterday. I will go back and look at your post. Probably are much more important issues right now. I just watched Fox and got real upset on their report about media coverage. First they ignored Hillary and got called on it..now they are still in with Obama. Just does not seem right or legal…Aren’t they supposed to give unbiased reporting? Oh well, tomorrow is a new day. Thanks to all working so hard. Hillary is worth it!!
77 Hills,
Hills however is a cool name.
Just easier to type from my end. I am a hunt and peck typist.
Personally I’m going to do a salt bath after I owrk out. WHhch will be in about ten mins. My ever expanding butt need to get out of this chair.
watching LOrd of the Democrats on youtube. Whenever I need a lift this does it for me.
Heres the link (again) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oajdDnYDnwM
# 174 I too like the cover of the New Yorker, I get it, I hope everyone else gets it too. I see the underlying implications and they are not too far off.
#243 gay guy Families always fight, but in the end it is the love they have for one another that always mends the fence.
# 374 go andersen I lit my candles for we Pumas. Thanks.
# 387 bruce55555 Thanks, I enjoy giving the BO supporters a little truth now and then.
Personally, I think Obama will do all he can to ensure Hillary’s name is not put into nomination, it would be the end of him.
Also, with all the media following him around in Germany, he is bound to put his foot in his mouth once again, and this time there might not be anyone to blame but himself.
Obama is what is ailing this party, he was the dividing factor. Much like Humpty Dumpty, Dean and the DNC wont be putting it together again, unless and until Hillary is put in nomination.
They fear Hillary, they fear Puma, they fear the American people who want justice, who want truth, and who want our votes to count.
We only ask for what is right, how can that be wrong?
One Love
I’m back hillstheone.
Read Abrahams short article. And other than the fact he needs a proofreader I’d say he was doing what a reporter is suppose to do. That is to report the news objectively. Somewhat rare these days in the media.
He simply stated both sides of an issue (PUMA). I didn’t see him give his own opinion for either side. I liked that.
Of course, I didn’t like what Ms. Christina Baker had to say about us. She expressed herself in terms of theory and emotions. I have never listened to such people in my life. They are subjective by nature. Conversely, Darragh answered questions with facts and defined PUMA. But then again, I am partial toward her more rational intellect.
Take heart hill… maybe Mr. Abrahams is one of the good guys of the media. (God, I hate it when I gag like that).
I am a happy PUMA…tomorrow in Orlando will be the first Meetup of Hillary supporters!
Will be nice to talk face to face!
This isn’t the first time Christina has been antagonistic. I tried to get her to back off her emotions and be open-minded weeks ago. She is just convinced of this right-wing conspiracy thing. I don’t think we ought to try to respond to her. She probably just wants the attention.
NoMoreInFL – that’s great! How did I miss that? Would you make sure I am on the mailing list? dragonflypuma@gmail.com.
I can’t come anyway because of a personal thing, though. Tell everyone I will be ready to assist from afar!
RE: The New Yorker cover. Sorry if this is really old news, but just a reminder to everyone that if you don’t have a problem with the New Yorker cover cartoon, please write or call the New Yorker and let them know. They are being blasted by the wackos. I called them to voice my support earlier this week, and they were most appreciative.
Again, sorry if this was hashed and re-hashed millions of times this week. I’ve been way outta town.
DNC RBC Credentials Committee Meeting 7/21/08
I wonder if Ickes will be there?
snowtiger, why are you under the bed?
goandersen #88 – that’s big news. do you know what they will be talking about?
Snowtiger: Thanks
That link was awesome! Lord of the Democrats. 
CNN is doing a bio on Obama right now if anyone wants to monitor it. Lots of heartrending moments.
90 Dragonfly
I have had that info on my calendar for weeks. I don’t remember where it came from. I thought it would be important to pay attention to. That is all I know.
#85 Dragonfly.
Idk there Dragon fly maybe your right. Then again Christina does seem a little high strung. Her writings appear to me to be brittle. Mentally speaking. Might be fun to push a few buttons.
Could be she is in the first stages of koolaid with drawl.
Ok ok. I leave her be.
BBl off to work out.
#47 firechief – good advice. I knew I was in for it when my little girl was born on the full moon. Wow, she is a trip! She came all on her own, too. No help from the docs who like to control the schedule.
Did I miss any bots at the 7:00 hour?
#92, BigCatLover, do I have to?
CNN and its love affair with O. never covered our Hill that way.
I just caught up on Posts. I don’t know how people who work can possibly keep up with this group it’s growing so fast. Obama’s supporters seem to be really on a rampage tonight. It’s a full moon – that must be it. My mother was the head of the social work department at a mental institution here years ago and she swears she always had to ramp up the work schedules of all her employees it would be so crazy on the nights that the moon was full.
thought i was on the florida meeting list also..guess not
# 86 Will do Dragonfly! There is also a group that has sprung up in Lake Mary (just north of Orlando) and they mentioned that they may merge. Can you send a flyer via e-mail so they can become PUMAS?
Any suggestions as to how we can get through to the delegates who are not pledged either to Senator Obama nor Senator Clinton?
61 snowtiger on 07.18.08 at 9:45 pm, WROTE,
[[ Cosmeta.
http://www.yestodemocracy.com ]]
Got it… just peeked my head it.
It’s a BS website.
I wouldn’t waste my time there.
but thanks for the link and the time it took to get it.
Good evening everyone. This is my second night here and I was able to successfully log in.
Wanted to let you know more about me. I’m 63 yrs old, have a college degree, have lived in 2 countries and several states, live just outside of San Antonio, Texas, Independent voter, live in the country, and have never been active any way politically until this year.
I was not able to vote in the primaries, but I followed all of the candidates up until that time. I went to bed knowing Hillary had won Texas – woke up in the morning to find the Delegates gave the State to Obama. I even called my Representative the following week to find out what Hillary had done in my district – she won the vote, won the caucus, but Delegate was given to Obama. What??
Hillary fought one of the strongest battles I’ve ever seen against two male opponents. She earned my respect. Yes, I would love to see a woman being called Madam President (of the United States).
I’ve been visiting your site for some time, but I refrained from joining the group because of my political beliefs. I can never support Obama – his strong socialistic platform scares the heck out of me!!
What my brother always tells everyone, “Show me your friends and I’ll tell you your future.”
Thanks
#88 goandersen
Can the Credentials Committee overrule the Rules and Bylaws Committee’s decision?
#97 StarDust I worked in a hospital for 15 years. Your mom is right. Our emergency room was always crazy.
#91 Pa dem glad you enjoyed it, speaks volumes imho.
#89 Dragonfly
I am hiding .I don’t want Christina to see me.
Ok now I go. BBL.
Maryland PUMA, you have urgent mail, please check your mail.
#98 FL_Debby_Puma I found them on Meetup. Joined one and when I went back today…there are more springing up. Are you close to Orlando?
hiya 1gypsy4mc
#106 go ohio lady
I’m not sure but I think Marylandpuma is sick and went to bed.
#107 NoMoreinFl…im in citrus county near Inverness
#106: MP said she was going to be b/c murphy is now home.
103 DancesWithPumas
I really don’t know. I was hoping someone here could enlighten us.
I meant “bed”.
#60 Hillaryistheone,
I believe that has to do with ad space. Who they cover and how much time they give I don’t think is what is referred to in that FCC ruling. I would have to dig deeper into it to find out.
# 100 DancesWithPumas
One good way is to list Obama poor experience to Hillarys 35 years of experience.
Obama
Obama is simply not qualified to be President. If you looked up Obama’s accomplishment, he was a community organizer that is true, but the people who worked with him on the asbestos cleanup said he contributed little to the effort the Altgeld Gardens project was never finished. He only had 10 court cases in his legal career and none were civil rights. The cases he did have he played a very minor roll of introducing himself and his client and the team of lawyers which he worked with actually handled the case. He says he is a unifier when he was not present one time during a bipartisan action while senator. He missed more than 1 in 5 votes and only was able to get one of his bills passed. Obama has a razor thin resume and should have never even made Senator let alone a try for the Presidency
Hillary
Hillary has the qualifications, she has 35 years experience. Most Presidents wife’s were just that a Presidents wife. Not Hillary she was different, she was a lawyer and took an active political role in the Whitehouse. She fought very hard to make adoption easier, to expand early learning and child care, she helped veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome and much, much more. She cannot be ignored for her achievements as she served alongside her husband in the Whitehouse.
This may help or give you an idea
#103: I think so, but I don’t know.
#78 sheila7 – still here? how are ya?
#109 sheila7, ok, thank you. Maryland will get it in the morning.
#106 Ohio – can I help? dragonflypuma@gmail.com
#117 Dragonfly
Hi Dragonfly. I’m good. How are you?
I’m trying to catch up this week. I have been really busy and I’m having a hard time keeping up with the blog. I’ll be off and on all night reading everything and catching up.
112 goandersen
I think Marc Ruben might know (Denver Group).
Welcome back 1gypsy4mc You’ll find this is a nice place to hang out. I hope you like it.
#115 StarDust
Thanks.
#114 gay guy
Thanks, I am still looking. It should apply to everything…if it doesn’t than that is something we should also work on.
maxgrader
Did you read Abraham’s July 14 post?
It was a lot better, especially for people just learning about PUMA.
#88 goandersen
Do you know what time they will be meeting tomorrow and if CSpan will be broadcasting it live or maybe delayed?
#119 Dragonfly, you have mail.
1gypsy4mc:
As a fellow Texan I welcome you to PUMA.
I here Boerne is McCain country. Is that the outside part of San Antonio to which you refer?
I’m an Independent as well and would rather vote for him than Obama just to teach the DNC a lesson in true democracy. We The People rule, not them.
53 DancesWithPumas,
http://www.powweb.com
got it and have it bookmarked
thanks
#110 fl_Debby_Puma
#122 StarDust
I already like it! You have so many positive things going on. The organization and contributions from everyone should make you proud!
I meant to spell here the hear way. Excuse please.
732 sandipuma on 07.18.08 at 8:40 pm I hope someone has the right e-mail for leedss@dnc.org
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sandipuma leeds@dnc.org
It seems that you put an extra “s” in the name
it is leeds not leedss
leeds@dnc.org
sychoram_in_MO
Full moon – yes, definitely, I believe that about the moonlight! It’s quite magical…
#88 goandersen
Everything I’m finding, with regard to the Cred Comm, was posted prior to May 31.
#96 Dragonfly
No, I turned it off. Am nowlistening to blogtalk radio (link listed in a post above) and they are doing chapter and verse in great detail on BO’s lack of action on Rezko slum landlord in Chicago.
Goanderson
I have the Credential Meeting listed on my calendar for Monday, July 21st.
121 Dances
Thanks. I will try Marc.
I just wonder if Ickes will be there.
I really think we are making a difference. They have a robotic response to everything we do (racist, republican) we hit them with logic and are polite and it’s making them crazy! Mix a full moon with a Puma and you got one wicked cocktail!
#110 FL_Debby_Puma Use this link to find a Hillary Meetup close to your city in FL
http://hrclinton.meetup.com/cities/us/fl/
TOPIC: Delegates
Anybody gotten any more responses from the emails we sent out to the Super’s this week..?
No Hill, I didn’t. But I got the gist of Mr. Abrahams manner. I like it when a reporter researches an issue then reports his findings and lets the reader make up his or her own mind. Now that’s the kind of reporting I can respect.
Welcome 1gyspsy4mc #102…. It is wonderful that you have joined us…..I too share your concern and frustration about the current democratic party…I and my family and friends have changed our party to Independent… We are just sick with the disgusting bias of our current democratic party…WHAT A JOKE!!!!!! WE WILL NEVER, NEVER, NEVER VOTE FOR BO…..Not a chance in Hell……If Hillary is not the one running against McCain then I and my family and friends will be voting for McCain… for the primary reason to prevent BO from ever becomming President…That’s a Joke in itself….And, in all fairness to McCain at least he has represented this Country in a way that should be honored!!!! And, as far as the NY Magazine goes “OH, YA !!! RIGHT ON TARGET!!!!!..I too, received an email from NOW and I told them to delete me from their list… Remember, Puma’s stay focused, alert and true to our mission…and the rest will fall in place…Here’s a quote..Hope you enjoy it….”The richness of human experience would lose something of rewarding joy if there were no limintations to overcome….Helen Keller Take Care, Suzanne
#139 hillstheone the only one I got so far was from that wexler (sorry if I missed spelled it) but that’s it. No news is good news eh…
#139 hillstheone
I’m kind of surprised I really didn’t get that many replys. I wonder if they just quit responding to us at all.
We’re moving toward newspaper ads to state our opposition to unprincipled Democratic Party leaders and THEIR selectee.
Take a Look!
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Welcome home Murphy,
I love the picture you put up tonight. Something about a full moon that brings out the personalities that normally stay guarded and hidden. I love how the full moon changes the tides, gathers these bursts of odd energy and pulls them out to sea, banishing them into the distance. I like to think of it as a moon cleansing for the soul.
But my point is, PUMA’s remind me of a full moon, we will change the political tides and banish the badness. A little at a time until there is more good than bad. We will do this as the strong and stable group we have become.
As someone here used to say at the end of their posts, which I just loved how it sounded… soldier on everyone!
StarDust
Using logic is everyone’s greatest asset. Attack the issues that are most important. I listened to Tammy Bruce this morning (standing in for Laura Ingraham) and she sure voiced many of Puma’s philosophies. I think she may have a thread to today’s radio broadcast.
She is definitely a feminist!! Maybe someone can get with her since she feels so strongly in favor of immediate action to keep Obama out of office.
OK, let’s lighten up the mood here. It is Friday night, after all:
Sing to the tune of the Brady Bunch
Here’s the story,
of a real great lady,
who was trying hard to be the president.
She worked day and night.
she never wavered,
No, she would not relent.
Here’s the story,
of a guy so shady.
that we all knew he was nothing but a con.
He had friends you’d never let get near your mother,
but the media said that he was number one.
Till the one day when the lady beat the fellow,
and the DNC told her to just step back.
They said we should all join hands and be mellow
but with one voice we became the Pumapac!
The Pumapac………! the Pumapac………!
But with one voice, we became the Pumapac!
hillstheone,
I recv’d only the automated messages…..
#138 NoMoreInFl…ty for the link.. i will check it out
And while you’re there, please go to the Pelosi letter and send it to help ensure that Hillary’s name is PLACED IN NOMINATION at the convention. (Or resend it if you already have sent it before!)
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Just a quick note…
The FCC is the government agency you set up and staffed (through your votes for both Congress and the President) to oversee the fair use of our public airwaves. To learn about the goings on there, you can either spend countless hours reading the law, including regulations; and review reams of transcripts of public hearings. Or, you could either visit their web site or call on Monday to get your questions answered.
http://www.fcc.gov/aboutus.html
maxgrader:
I, too, appreciate unbiased coverage. But in today’s post I thought there was little done to clarify confusion about the PUMA movement.
For instance, he made this statement: ”
The criticisms of her group, and others that are essentially against Obama’s nomination, is that they are really run by Republicans trying to fool Democrats. And that they are creating the perception of an intraparty divide. Some have called them racists or worse.”
But then following that statement, today’s post did little to clarify the above misconceptions…I think that’s a disservice to both PUMA and his readers.
Just my opinion, and I respect yours.
Also, I hadn’t known that Murphy was going to vote for McCain. Or maybe she isn’t. But either way his article makes it appear that way, and therefore made the PUMA movement appear to be about everyone going into McCain’s camp.
BTW, speaking of McCain, anybody hear his campaign staff people resigned today after saying the public are “whiners about the economy”?? Gee, there’s a good example of good old fashioned compassion from the GOP….
I belong to a a few groups that use mass mailings to Congress and I have been amazed at how they change their stand. Don’t ever here from them until I read about the change they took or get an update.
PUMAS are making a difference. Remember…1 mailing represents 100 that feel the same way put did not write. A rule that has always made politicians think twice!
That is why there is becoming more and more coverage about dissatisfied voters with *61!
144 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.18.08 at 10:47 pm We’re moving toward newspaper ads to state our opposition to unprincipled Democratic Party leaders and THEIR selectee.
Take a Look!
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
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They look great. When and where will they be seen?
oneforall:
That’s all I got, too (automated mssgs).
And a few bad addresses! Oh well, I guess the important thing is that they now know who we are and what we’re thinking about with regards to Denver.
#52 snowtiger
The Secretary of State in each state is the government official who oversees all aspects of elections, including voter registration, polling places, and certification of vote counts. Most Secretaries have formal complaint procedures that can be accessed on the web. Or, you can call. Debra Bowen is the Secretary of State in California.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/
#144 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Loved the ads. Have you priced different publications? I would add one item to ad #2 – when you say we are not few, I would also add ‘and we are not all female’ in answer to the charge you refer to that we are a few bitter women.
147 anti rodham
Do you have anything stronger???
I think today is just the day to come after us but I think it shows we are strong but even over at that political machine they’ve got people bashing us after that T C wrote a article about us visa that Christina (whatever her name is) I believe he even has a pic of her up there on the website.
antifish
Loved the song.
antifish – loved it!
#154 – great idea! I believe cosmeta encouraged that too. you here cosmeta? check it out.
Dragonfly,
RE: “BigCatLover, do I have to? CNN and its love affair with O. never covered our Hill that way.”
Aint that the truth!
#147 — antifish, you’re brilliant!!
Dragonfly, thank you!
Murphy, now it’s your turn, you have urgent mail. I know your up to your eyes in mail so I do understand if you can’t get to it until tomorrow.
TOPIC: POETRY (well, it says Full Moon and POETRY)
We don’t have fireflies where I live, but I’ve seen them, and I liked them.
Here’s a cute poem about them by Robert Frost:
Fireflies in the Garden
Here come real stars to fill the upper skies,
And here on earth come emulating flies,
That though they never equal stars in size,
(And they were never really stars at heart)
Achieve at times a very star-like start.
Only, of course, they can’t sustain the part.
#165 you’re welcome, go_Ohio_Lady – sorry I couldn’t be more help.
Let’s rock with the full moon PUMAs! Did you know a puma can kick a wolf’s butt? Just saw it on youtube, so you know it’s true (actually it looked very cgi, but still . . . there is always the mother cougar scaring the grizzly away)
Someone should seriously keep track of these silly songs for Denver: Great one antifish
Hi everyone,
I haven’t posted much lately, but I always try to keep up with the daily growls and read as many posts as I can every day. I have received very few responses to all of the e-mails, letters, and faxes that I have sent. I have gotten notifications of incorrect addresses, or automatic responses, but that is about all. I am sure that all of our efforts make a difference, but it would be nice to receive a response once in a while.
Also, what is the deal with the actionpage? I didn’t realize there were problems.
#146 1gypsy3mc
I wrote a note about her, maybe yesterday. She was fabulous. Basically, she kept saying, ‘I don’t know why everyone is referring to BO as the nominee. Only JMc has enough delegates for the nomination. BO doesn’t. No one is the nominee until the convention. HRC could be the nominee.’
Good night everyone!
Hi CasperCat,
I truly believe that McCain has great respect for Hillary. He seemed to attack Obama more so than Hillary. They have worked together in the past.
#103 Dances,
Yes, it is my understanding that the Credentials Committee can overrule the Rules and Bylaws Commitee and has the final say. The way I’m reading it though, Hillary would have to file a challenge.
The Credentials Committee is responsible for resolving any questions regarding the seating of
delegates and alternates to the Convention. This committee is expected to meet sometime in July
or August prior to the Convention.
Responsibilities:
! Assumes jurisdiction over any credentials challenges not resolved by the DNC Rules and
Bylaws Committee before June 29, 2008, or challenges filed after that date.
! Holds hearings and accepts testimony about challenges, except those decided by the
Committee Co-Chairs based on the pleadings.
! Recommends final resolution of any outstanding challenge or dispute related to the seating
of delegates and alternates.
! Issues a report that is considered as the first item of business at the National Convention.
http://www.demconvention.com/assets/mainassets/standingcommittees.pdf
NoMoreInFl – still here? we can still get flyers etc at
http://pumapacusa.org/ if you go to the highlighted word “link.”
I have a few in my hard drive if you don’t find what you need.
dragonflypuma@gmail.com
sorry it took so long!
#168 pa dem
We may need a volunteer to do that since our previous archive person resigned I think.
Does anyone know what happened to the NJ PUMA FLYER PDF for downloading on this site? Does anyone have a copy that can be e-mailed?
#103 DancesWithPumas on 07.18.08 at 10:24 pm, WROTE TO,
#88 goandersen
[[ Can the Credentials Committee overrule the Rules and Bylaws Committee’s decision? ]]
The short answer is,
YES!
The longer answer is,
Same people on the Rules Committee. Plus BHO is now leader of Party, DNC, Rules and Bylaws Committee, Credentials Committee, etc and sets the agenda going foward. IOW, he can rewrite the rules to suit his own needs.
My recall is that there is suppose to be come kind of committee meeting on or around July 22,
But,
Traditionally, the Credentials Committee Meeting happens on the FIRST DAY OF THE CONVENTION.
The Credentials Committee has it within their power to seat Florida and Michigan at 100% their full delegation. YES, YES, YES. But if they are, who will get the credit, BHO or Hillary. Cause he has been against it all along and she has been fighting for it.
See these videos
DNC May 31st and Harold Ickes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNotZJoZR-4
Argus Leader Executive Board Interview
With Hillary Clinton – May 23, 2008
A few days before the South Dakota Primary
This video is 1/2 hour long, may start in the middle and then rewind
Watch it!!!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search=related&search_query=%20DNC%20DEMOCRATIC%20NATIONAL%20PARTY%20HILLARY%20CLINTON%20MICHIGAN%20FLORIDA%20VOTES%20BARACK%20OBAMA%20news%20grassroots%20outreach%20gotcha%21%20documentary%20commentary%20analysis%20political%20commercial&v=1whezcwSrQE
169 KarlaforHillary
Hey!
I very rarely get responses, sometimes an autoreply.
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org – y’all don’t forget to check out that site for PUMA actions until Murphy gets back going. MarylandPUMA and her cub are sick tonight.
Growl on!!
TOPIC: More poetry
antifish – while you were writing that one, I was penning this one. Not that good but I hope it makes you smile.
Full Moon PUMA
We are PUMAs
on the prowl,
We are PUMAs,
hear us growl.
We work hard,
But like to play
When we come to Denver
Better make way
Open the gates wide
Cause here comes PUMA pride
We love Hillary and the U. S. of A.
We know Hillary is here to stay.
She’s a fighter, not a quitter
And we’re EXCITED, we’re not BITTER
We’re believers, not deceivers
And though our Party did us wrong,
We’ll continue to stay strong.
We’ll continue with our fight,
Till our Party gets it right!
When we come to Denver
Better make way
Open the gates wide
Cause here comes PUMA pride!
So Denver get ready!
Cause when our work is done,
We’ll be looking for fun
Denver get ready, better make way
Open your doors wide
Cause here comes PUMA pride!
#169 Karla
I never get responses from superdelegates either. Still, we are making a difference.
The action center is down right now but Murphy is workingon it.
171 Go Ohio Lady
NIGHT
#177 cosmeta a huge PUMA roar Thank You.
did you notice notfallinginline is doing newspaper ads? b’lieve you had the same thought.
#52 That is true. I live in Calif. and I was Independent and had to change parties to vote for Hillary. This is for primary only.
Thanks Dragonfly! Will use link. Antifish, great song!
ooopse….
I forgot to put in the ending tag for bold font on my last post, #177
If anyone is moderating, please correct.
Sorry…
I would like to remind PUMAs that arrogant leaders attract equally arrogant followers. They will resort to viciousness when they see their territory being seriously threatened. And what they fail to see is: Fearless, tough, tenacious, passionate leaders attract equally fearless, tough, tenacious and passionate followers, who will not back down, never give up, and never listen to those who tell us to quit. There is no “quit” in Hillary Clinton, and there is no “quit” in us — we are her PUMAs. She created us by example. If the Obots are waiting for us to roll over and play “dead” — just like they tried to get Hillary to do — then they have a fight on their hands that they could never imagine.
NYCgirl
#181 sheila – I noticed at the site that if you click “link” you can get to some of the resources.
just fyi
cosmeta:
Thanks for the great post (#177).
I’ll watch those video clips.
But first, take a time out. BBL. Thanks again, cosmeta.
Hi pumas! I’ve been trying so hard to play catch up.
I just finished checking out what I call the traitors website.
What I’m really surprised about is that she didn’t use private registration through go daddy.
She has only half a brain as she is from florida with half a vote!
Glad to see everyone has remained strong through this invasion of a skunk.
You got it NYCgirl!!! ROAR
As if they could really intimidate us or stifle us with their petty attacks.
#190 bythelake – can you help me find my other half of my brain? I think Dean took it!!!!
#183 Dragonfly on 07.18.08 at 11:08 pm, WROTE,
#177 cosmeta a huge PUMA roar Thank You.
[[ did you notice notfallinginline is doing newspaper ads? b’lieve you had the same thought. ]]
No. I must have missed that one.
I’ve been getting quotes, and don’t have the money right now to run an ad… but have not forgotten about it.
#180 hillstheone,
Awesome! I love it!
Oh Dragonfly, I’m sure “you” really have the whole brain. It’s Dean who is lost some of his marbles out of his!
#169 Karla – hey! Action page – you can get resources on the page if you hit “link.” But the moderator in charge of the page has timed herself out.
Hey, on the SDs. There is a great way to contact SDs through electability watch. I will get the link and brb
Polls Show Americans Afraid of BO as Commander-In-Chief
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/FloydandMaryBethBrown/2008/07/18/poll_shows_americans_afraid_of_obama_as_commander-in-chief?page=full&comments=true
#195 – thanks for the vote of confidence bythelake! Lots of Obama supporters on the blogosphere think I’m pretty dumb!
#187 NYCgirl,
Yes indeed. Cheers!
177 Cosmeta
Thanks. Watching the Video
#144 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Please, could you contact me through my g-mail account? Ask Murphy for the address. Thanks.
NYCgirl … are you still here? No NJ-PUMA flyers available at this site anymore? Hoping to have something for the weekend. I think I’d better get busy putting something together. A sample would have been nice, though.
Geez Dragonfly….they must be just jealous!
Wow, really can’t take a day off here, so much has been happening!
Sorry folks…. i gave u the wrong link to argusLeader
here it is again
See these videos
DNC May 31st and Harold Ickes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNotZJoZR-4
Argus Leader Executive Board Interview
With Hillary Clinton – May 23, 2008
A few days before the South Dakota Primary
This video is 1/2 hour long, may start in the middle and then rewind
Watch it!!!
http://argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080523/FRONTPAGECAROUSEL/80522033&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL#pluckcomments
Note: this was the FULL interview when she mentions Bobbie Kennedy but it has since been edited out… along with the blog… the place I was posting to under another screen name and doing battle with BHO’s paid blogger.
Does anyone know people in the military? Thought it may be a good idea to let those overseas know how we feel about Obama and his record. I know the people in Europe think he is a rock star but wonder if the military has the whole story? Just thinking.
CATINNJ
Dragonfly is saying you can still get to some of them through the link.
Please forgive me for posting this. I wrote it when I was feeling down and felt I didn’t have anyone to whom I could express my feelings. It can easily be re-vamped for Pumas.
Dear Speaker of the House – Nancy Pelosi
Again today, you let me know how insignificant I am and how I no longer have a vote or a Representative that will stand by me during these very economically trying times.
You showed me again how “democracy in action” is no longer a reality, but that socialism is now replacing what the United States of America means to this lone citizen.
Thank you also for the realization that you think I must accept the on-going corruption of my government before my very eyes. You have taught me on a daily basis that an honest citizen cannot fight organized crime that hides behind the mask of democracy.
You have robbed me of my trust and faith in my government. You have told me that my “vote” is merely a small irritation and easily overlooked.
Speaker of the House – there are two things you cannot rob from me. The first is my hope that I can join with others that feel the same way that I do. The second is my determination to help others make a difference. As each person joins another in like beliefs, we are no longer a silent or a weak heartbeat, but a strong pulse throbbing throughout the United States. You cannot have the Heart of this Nation!
Not Alone
Dragonfly
Quick question…is it my computer or the full moon that when I hit the link button, the page shows the various items but when I click on them I get an error?
On that ArgusLeader blog i was called a *b* a *c* just like Hillary, they would say, and when that didnt work, worst of all, worst, or so the blogger claimed, a republican.
LOL
It was all too funny.
#191 Dragonfly
Intimidate Hillary’s PUMAs? Not a chance, Dragonfly!
As Victor Laszlo said to Rick Blaine in “Casablanca”:
“Welcome back to the fight. This time, I know our side will win.”
NYCgirl
#198 goandersen
Interesting article. I hope the supers have read it.
#208 1gypsy4mc,
Very true, I hope you sent that to Pelosi!
Did you all listen to NoQuarterRadio when Larry Johnson interviewed Andy Martin? I am listening right now and it is very, very interesting.
#198 goandersen, Obama as CIC is very scary!!
#158 BigCatLover
I will make the change to #2 that you suggested. Thank you!
#202 jbjd
The best way to send me your g-mail address privately would be to register at http://www.NotFallingInLine.org.
#206 4hillinca,
Most of the military folks I know are Republicans. There aren’t a lot of Democrats in the Armed Forces. I do hear that BO was popular with military Dems when he wanted to end the war immediately. Haven’t heard if that has changed with his recent flip-flopping. They are probably still trying to figure out where he stands. I know I am.
Sandipuma are you still over there in that hostile place? Come back here, it’s nicer!
#208 1gypsy4mc on 07.18.08 at 11:19 pm,
BRAVO!
WAY TO GO!
And now i have to close my pc down for a while and give it a rest… i think it is overheating and not responding to my commands.
Anybody want tea
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Crap! You’re right NoMoreInFl.
Sorry for the bad intel folks. I didn’t try every one of them, but the link is not valid for some of the flyers.
Okay, email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com, and I will send back to anyone who likes attachments of the flyers I do have.
Rock on!
bythelake….glad to see you here….I’m just listening and ….thinking about all the caring PUMAs here…..seeing the brave ones and looking at history knowing any change made with the heart is what will be read for generations………………………..
Murphy,Maryland PUMA, Thank you
I want to know, how do you respect a “selected” nominee? I can’t respect someone who tells lie after lie and it is proven. BO has not and will not earn my respect. If he becomes leader of our country I will have no respect for him. Loser.
#208 1gypsy4mc,
I loved your letter. It is very powerful.
http://www.Notfallinginline.org
GREAT ADS!
Antifish,
Have you looked at Beltway Pundit? Military, McCain
Thanks one4all, I’ve been so busy. I pumanapped henceforth I’m wide awake!
137 goandersen
I don’t know if he will ne there. Senator Clinton’s lawyers will be there though.
Cosmeta thanks for the comprehensive info.
Gotta watch that! The body clock is a powerful thing!
I hope you can sleep in !
Too stressed to sleep in lol. Plus have to work.
227 DancesWithPumas
I mailed Marc,
“my guess is whatever it is they wont want to make it public. why dont you call the dnc and see if they would just come right out and tell you and if not ask why its such a deep dark secret.”
Anyone want to call the DNC tomorrow and ask??
#230 goanderson
Thanks for the info. Maybe we should all call… and keep calling and keep asking?
I’m still playing catch up, call the DNC for?
Fellow PUMA’s,
Ya’ll have a wonderful night. I must go give some time to the better half before he names PUMA’s in the divorce(ha ha lmao). Will be back on tomorrow. Everyone have a great night. Peaceful dreams.
From the Action Center
- I have the list of SDs, current as of two weeks ago,
- I also have three flyer, including Fred’s.
- And I have the PUMA faux currency with President Clinton’s portrait on it.
If anyone has any of the resources that they’ve downloaded, and you’re willing to send to me, I will bundle and send to Murphy.
me at gee male
Goodnight gay guy!
232 bythelake
see #89
Hello Dragonfly – your email to me today made me miss you desperately – glad to see you back here
bythelake,
That tells me you need some down time. Take care of yourself or when you least expect it—-the walls crash in..
Everyone assumes that stress is ok—it’s a trade off and it depends on if the prize is worth it….I always found it was and I’m guessing you do also. Stay strong and when your not…don’t forget to remember that you are human.
Oh, I’m in on calling them! Need I give them a piece of my whole brain?
239 bythelake
report back. I will call as well.
Dragonfly – did you post the electability watch website – want to check it out – maybe its as good or better than lobbydelegates.
Thanks
#16 Joanna 0902
I wanted to repost this again. Thank you so much for posting the link to the radio show about Rezko and *61. It contained a wealth of information about the fraud and corruption taking place with public funds to help *61′s wealthy backers.
I took a lot of notes and will be reviewing this material. This information is very valuable when we are writing our media letters especially to their ombudsmen.
Pumas,
If you listen to one show tonight, tune in.
*61 sounds a lot like President Nixon. If we follow the money in Chicago, it will be his downfall. This is why *61 is claiming his state senate records don’t exist.
Murphy,
Wow, I just received my flyers and will distribute them. Is there another fundraising list of donors besides the Huffington Fund List?
Pumas You Rock!!
thanks one4all…I think my wall crashed two nights ago. Long boring story not needed on here.
Then today went new van shopping. Egads. Salesmen, lol…gotta love them.
Will do goanderson, same number as before?
#157jbjd thanks for link I’m still catching up.
Do we have an Action plan for tomorrow (Saturday)?
244 bythelake
yesh.
DWP: Regarding the SD list, I think we are trying to find a way that we have some protection against BO supporters accessing the information. That said, we are still searching for some fax numbers and emails.
Fear not much, hillstheone.
What Mr. Abrahams reported about the perceptions of PUMA are correct, although the perceptions are wrong. Things like being Republicans in Democrats clothing is indeed what people are thinking about us. But it’s not true.
It’s true that our Darragh contributed to McCain one time. But only because she wanted to reduce the odds as much as possible of Bush becoming president. She was so adamant about that she was willing even to give her own hard earned money to that cause. Bush too was an inexperienced politician most particularly in foreign affairs. Murphy’s main vote went to Al Gore because that’s who she believed in the most. She simply wanted to have a safer alternative in McCain should Gore lose. Unfortunately Bush got his party’s nomination and the rest, as they say, is Supreme Court history.
I don’t feel Mr. Abrahams did PUMA a disservice. And believe me it takes a lot out of me to say that about anyone in the media (see there, I just gagged again). To me Murphy was acting like an Independent back in 2000. She didn’t do anything against her principles.
I think most intelligent readers of Abrahams article would not be mislead by the fact she contributed money to McCain once upon a campaign.
However, if what Frank Zappa once disputed is evidential… that the most abundant element in the universe is not hydrogen but stupidity… then this country is in more trouble than I thought.
148 antifish on 07.18.08 at 10:48 pm OK, let’s lighten up the mood here. It is Friday night, after all:
Sing to the tune of the Brady Bunch
Here’s the story,
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Thanks for the chuckle!
Whenever the list is complete let me know as I have a fax machine and not afraid to use it.
Of the “elected” nominee…
Goodnite dear PUMAs, stay well…
#208 1gypsy4mc
Holy cow… I wish I could write with such clarity and passion when I am upset…
So anyway, while I was out “charging” in the moon light the neighbors called the cops…. damn clothing rules
Good Night Dragonfly – pleasant dreams.
Bad Moon Rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QkQz59Hxwg
Dragonfly and DancesWithPumas, thanks in advance for responding to my e-mail. You have mail!
I am off to bed and will print in the morning. Again thanks!
PUMAS ROOOOOOAR!
#248 pa dem
Point noted.
I just don’t know how much original info was lost through the demise of our the Action Center. Most of the links there are dead. I looked through my files and found some of the original data… thought we could gather enough bits and pieces to present to Murphy to with as she wishes.
This is my first time posting here. I tried last night but had a hard time getting registered so I could get eligible to post here. I’m sorry to say that I’m from Illinois and unfortunately this is where Nobama went to Chicago to learn dirty politics. I have a sister who lives in Iowa and she is so upset about her state going for BHB in the primaries. We are both Hillary supporters but unfortunately it looks like Nobama has these two states locked up. We are both telling our family and friends about the “real Obama”. We can’t understand how so many uninformed people have fallen for this smooth talking unqualified guy who doesn’t even know there are 50 states. If McCain had said there were 57 states, the MSM would have called him ‘senile’.
Goodnight to those signing off! Sweet dreams!
257 NoMoreInFL
Will do.
Good Evening PUMA FAMILY!!
I seldom join the blog, but today something tells me I better speak up, we’ve been infiltrated by saboteurs. I welcomed it; it tells me loud and clear our organization is getting notice, from a small voice it is growing louder and louder and soon will become a thunder. We are a force to be reckoned with, we’re not in the pocket of anyone or on anyone’s payroll. We owe NO ONE anything, but we have a BIG RESPONSIBILITY for future Americans, we are all doing this for them. I’ve lived in three countries and have seen what government can do to people if they’re neglectful of their civic duty.
I’ve seen the likes of NOBAMA in another country, he is NOT unique or rare, in fact the LIKES of NOBAMA is VERY COMMON in CORRUPT NATIONS. Politicians like NOBAMA will take away the last penny in your pocket and expect YOU to be grateful. When a politician tells you something so vague, start listening to that alarm bell in your head; he’s making a fool out of you. – ” FOOLS RUSH IN, WHERE WISEMEN NEVER GO.”
The kind of politics NOBAMA is engaged in, is very much known to me; it never dawn on me, USA will elect a politician with a sweet tongue but venomous, worse than Cobra. NOBAMA is like a SPITTING COBRA, I literally cannot stand the man. In fact I can’t watch him on TV, he gives me ACID REFLUX.
My focus right now is on Hillary, I’m still very hopeful she’ll be the nominee after the convention, but if superdelegates continue with their foolishness and vote for the WORST CANDIDATE for November, their would be hell to pay. I’ve made a lists of superdelegates in my state that voted for NONAME, I will vote AGAINST them.
McCain will get my vote, my campaign contribution and my time if NOBAMA is the nominee. AT LEAST, with Senator John McCain I know what I am getting into, I TRUST Senator McCain, I cannot say the same thing about that Senator from Southside of Chicago.
We ALL must stick together and continue with our crusade. This is bigger than any of us can conceive, democracy is at stake here, security of our country is at stake.
Some of us may feel a bit slighted, that’s normal; we are a family, a ,movement of true Americans, every now and then we’ll have a little misunderstanding. They can call us all kinds of names, it don’t mean a thing because we know who we are, what we stand for as an organization.
I had an exchange of not so nice word with my doctor, I made it clear I will NEVER vote for NOBAMA, she said I am crazy because I’m a bleeding heart democrat (she knows me for many years). I told her my stint with the Democratic Party is over and I’m PUMA PAC member, her face turned beet red…….LMAO!
I’m campaigning in my own way for PUMA PAC, recruiting people to join our organization, I do it face to face and explain what is the goal of PUMA PAC, I also made it clear we are from different walks of life – I call it RAINBOW COALITION OF DISGRUNTLED VOTERS. When our votes don’t matter anymore, it means democracy is about to die. Please don’t get me wrong, I’ve walked on this path before; this is deja vu for me. The only thing I can ask from all of you, please BE STRONG, FOCUS your mind what we wanted to achieve.
As the old saying goes, “keep your eyes on the donut but NOT on the hole.”
Murphy thank for that lovely poem by Walt Whitman, he was a great poet of our time.
Bad moon rising,
How do people get so creative!
It was great!
#185 4hillinca
Check this out.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/03/07/BAGNTOGLT81.DTL&type=printable
PA Dem
What do you specifically need about the Super Delegates? I have a list of Delegates that went to Hillary and those that went to Obama. The telephone numbers would still have to be looked up.
#207 Sheila … thanks for the info on the flyers. The links are dead. Guess it was pretty easy to miss Dragonfly’s response to my question, being the answer was given to another post somewhere down the line. Par for the course here.
249 maxgrader on 07.18.08 at 11:54 pm Fear not much, hillstheone.
What Mr. Abrahams reported about the perceptions of PUMA are correct, although the perceptions are wrong. Things like being Republicans in Democrats clothing is indeed what people are thinking about us. But it’s not true.
It’s true that our Darragh contributed to McCain one time. But only because she wanted to reduce the odds as much as possible of Bush becoming president. She was so adamant about that she was willing even to give her own hard earned money to that cause.
*************************
This whole topic about Murphy contributing to the McCain campaign in 2000 has no relevance to the PumaPac’s mission, which is {FIRSTLY} to ensure the H.R. Clinton’s name will be in NOMINATION ON THE FIRST ROLL CALL.
So, I do not feel it is necessary to defend Murphy’s contribution. Our response should be SO WHAT!!!
Because if Hillary is not the democratic presidential nomination, then we will either not vote in the General Election or we will vote for McCain.
No Obama never!!!
#261 Asian4Hillary. I couldn’t agree more. “O” is as dangerous a person as has ever entered into American politics.
Women On Top
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie3vDoOdIY0
I had jumped off and went over to that Tom Abrahams site and had to post a comment. I was so glad to see our people over there. I really fear they may be losing it. I’m telling you full moon and Puma- don’t want to mess with us.
208 1gypsy4mc
It’s a wonderful heartfelt letter. Bravo!
Hello everyone
Did anyone read Charles Krauthammer’s article today? It was really good…..it talked about BO being really arrogant and pompious and how people are noticing he is raising himself up to a higher level…..good article.
1gypsy4mc: We have the phone numbers of all the SDs I think, just working on the fax numbers and emails. It’s mostly the Obama SDs that are really hard to find. The funny thing is they complain that we write to their personal addresses, but don’t provide ones for us to lobby them. If anyone wants to help, email Trish. The more people searching the better.
Been lurking a bit…Beautiful poem and a full moon, what else can you ask for.
Thank you murphy, maryland and all those who do so much. Much appreciated. We have some seriously smart people blogging here, and me thinks we are making an impact.
I have been watching Gallup daily and something is happening. NoBo is getting no traction. The electoral votes will play a part here if he ends up as the nominee. NoBO is fairing better here.
257 NoMoreInFL
I had more resources than I though! They’ve been emailed to you.
#88 Firechief
I just left a message of support for the New Yorker.
#103 1gypsy4me
What a great line! “Show me your friends and I’ll tell you your future.”
#145 NotfallingInLine
Fantastic job, I am glad that you are running these ads.
#254 sychoram,
Welcome! LOL. Tell your neighbors to just “get over it”!
Thanks everyone. I guess it’s the moon. The one pictured is absolutely so beautiful!!
I usually don’t just “jump” in there like that, but I’m so comfortable with all of you and just couldn’t hold it back.
I heard on HRC forum that a PUMA had her property vandalized. They supposedly lit a tree on fire. The FD said it was arson. She is a vocal PUMA supporter and tells everyone. She had been recieving threats.
Anyone know anything else about this?
261 Asian4Hillary
Thank you!! Your perspective is so valuable right now. Most Americans are in denial that our democracy could possibly be undermined. To most of us it’s just not realistic that our form of government could change. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this post.
sorry friends – got on a phone call with my sis. will get on the electability info now. any other requests I have forgotten? sometimes my Florida half person status limits me . . . . hahahah
268 goandersen
Women on top… good one! Thx
@261 Asian4Hillary,
Be careful. If your doctor is an Obamabot, you may not want to make it mad! LOL!
PA Dems
Were you able to get all of the information concerning the “Uncommitted” Delegates? I’ll try looking up Delegates for you tomorrow if I can. You want mainly email addys and fax numbers, correct?
Goalucard, NoMoreInFl, Karla, sandipuma any others – check out
rrlieberma@gmail.com
tell her you want to participate in the letter writing campaign. You will get an email with the info.
Or email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com
FireChief, I did my first night as an EMT in training at an E.R. during the Full Moon, on Halloween, in a small mountain city. Needless to say, I did everything from assisting with car wrecks, cops beat-up guy, CPR on someone who’d passed away and on and on and on. Full Moon in certain lines of works are legendary for a reason.
#278 matt2008A: Yes, she posts here periodically and is from the Western PA crew.
278 matt2008A
Huh???
#276 antifish… after 2 years of living next to me you would think they would have learned by now… it is kinda scarey tho.. fat white guy here..lol
#262/#282…Asian4Hillary…good post before going off for the night…
antifish…you crack me up !
#283 1gypsy4mc Contact Trish (prowlngrowl @ gmail ) so you don’t wind up doing duplicate work. Trust me, that’s no fun.
278 matt2008A
I took it differently the first time. Hummmm
#268 goandersen,
I loved that video!
#284 Dragonfly -
I should have said that you need to convey that you want to be added to Electability Watch.
Drac, I have your email and can get you connected. Others, I may not. Please remind me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com
292 anti
I thought it was appropriate for tomorrow. Or I guess today.
# 261 Asian4Hillary
Very good post- No we are not in the pocket of anyone and we are on no ones payroll. That is what makes us so very strong and probably angrers their team to no end. We have so many people working so hard and be paid nothing. We are bank rolling money and they are bleeding money. How can you beat us – Pumas are the best
Ok ladies and Gents,
See you sometime later today…………………..Purr
#286 pa dem
Is she doing okay? Where was this in western PA?
Goodnight goanderson
#278 matt,
Yes, I heard about that earlier today. This election cycle is scary. Glad I cling to my guns, though not so much religion. LOL! Come burn my trees if you dare!
nite go
Goodnight goandersen!
night goanderson thanks again
hello all..I want to put my twocents in about Murphy being a republican ..WHO CARES? I certainly DO NOT..I have always been registered as a Democrat and voted as such, but I knew from my research of obama since his 2004 speech at the convention that I could NEVER support him (if he decided to run and of course he did decide to, even after stating he was not experienced enough to do so, but I digress) and especially after seeing how Hillary was treated in this process, it doubled my determination to NEVER vote for him. So I was proud to find Muphy and her group. It gives me a voice to express my distaste/disgust for everything the DNC has allowed to go on. It also supports my choice to vote for John McCain, a very honorable, trust-worthy American, if Hillary is not on the ticket. So, I thank Murphy for her courageous action in starting this group and her political leanings do not matter a twit with me! You go Murph!!
sorry to be so long-winded!
#237 Goalucard!
You snuck in here on me! Where in the world have you been? We missed you so much! Welcome back to the Pac!
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/16/electability/
Check out this info on the electability watch and how to get involved.
tell me …
why does John McCain have a certain expression on his face that is hard for me to decipher and is driving me nuts..???
He has that look of a cat that is about to pounce on a nice plump canary???
He has a look that is NUMB NUTS sort of like a puzzled spectator watching a three ring circus??
someone want to help me out here?
I don’t have any trees in my yard, so………….
#297 Pittsburgh area…she commented a few threads back–I think it was on the threats thread–as far as I know she is ok right now, but hopefully she will answer you herself.
DWP: I emailed to try to get on her list, mentioned PUMA and you and hopefully I will get on the right list.
I didn’t know it had a title.
http://together4us.com/index.html
this is the site Ricki L is associated with.
Also, Trish has info on superdels – I don’t have Trish’s email, but maybe andersen does?
umm and I wonder why the news outlets /bloggers think that it matters with anyone? We are protesting an injustice foisted upon us all by a rotten-to-the-core group of people. Ones who stood by and listened as their FELLOW Senator and colleague was dis-honored and crucified by the press on all levels. Does one have to be a Democrat to be disgusted by that mistreatment? I think not! One has only to be human and fair-minded. You take heart , Murphy and keep up the good work. I will stand with you!
#308 pa dem
Really? I have family in Pittsburgh, the say it is very Hillary friendly. Hillary won that area, didn’t she?
#203 Cat in NJ
Cat,
I know I am late in replying to you on this, but I just sent a copy of NJPuma’s flyer to you by email. I hope you get it. Sorry for the delay.
NYCgirl
antifish – did you know Drac was traveling for a while? I am so glad to see him back too. Drac? Are you lurking?
NYCgirl – you rock! Hopefully Murphy will have time tomorrow to get the action site business sorted out tomorrow.
#288 sychoram,
Hey, fat white guys make awesome pumas!
#303 SunshineLvr
Exactly.
They use one part of something (anything) without bothering to put in context… swiftboating. Posting the whole truth undermines their argument, and it is disrespectful to their audience because it deprives their audience of reaching an educated conclusion.
He has that look of a cat that is about to pounce on a nice plump canary???
McCain knows the “lil secrets” that the rest of us don’t… kinda makes ya wonder just what he has “cooking” for *61 tho! I bet he’ll have a different look when Senator Clinton gets the nomination
Hey, Sunshinelvr! Well said. Do you happen to be a half person like me in the panhandle, or do you love sunshine elsewhere?
#313 Dragonfly,
Oh, no I didn’t know he was traveling. I’m glad he’s back too. Maybe he’s out looking for some bot blood right now. It is a full moon, you know!
#206 4hillinca, Marc4Hill is recovering from a gunshot wound he received in battle. He is home now and is a Puma. He knows many in the military, hope it helps.
One Love
#316 Dances, I agree. It is virtually impossible to talk to the blogging supporters because they have a series of insults they throw out without actually contemplating anything we say.
Thank you all for going to http://www.NotFallingInLine.org to look at the ads.
Your encouragement has given me some hope that all of work that I am doing is not a total waste of time.
Please know that I am writing to no less than four superdelegates a day and, each time I do it, I am letting them know about the existence of NotFallingInLine.org.
It would be great if, in the unlikely event that any of them were to go to the site, they were to see as many comments to those ads as possible from people who are expressing agreement with them and suggesting improvements to them.
If you think the ads have any value, please consider writing a comment to the post as a kind of “signature” of agreement.
Thank you!
I don’t know which one to run first, but they will run. If it’s the last thing I do before I drop from exhaustion, THEY WILL RUN!
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
308 puma pa
DWP: I emailed to try to get on her list, mentioned PUMA and you and hopefully I will get on the right list. I didn’t know it had a title.
_____________________________________
sorry, I blinked… which list?
Oh, wow, Marc4Hill, if you are lurking, I hope you are doing all right. Thank you for your service! My brother has returned from his third tour in the ME. His next deployment, thankfully, will not be in that region.
matt2008A: *Most* of Pittsburgh is, but I shouldn’t really say any more.
DWP: I had seen the site before, but couldn’t figure out how to join.
lol Well I am one of those uneducated, bitter, Bible thumpers in the south!
but I do love sunshine!
Goodnight everyone
#317 sychoram,
I seriously think the Republicans have something devastating on BO. They don’t seem to even be campaigning right now. It must be maddening to the Democratic Party elite who “selected” Obama. Maybe that’s why Pelosi looks like she’s aged ten years in the past month. There comes a time when even Botox doesn’t help.
nite matt
325 puma pa
I haven’t a clue as to what you are talking about.
I’m sorry… I was emailing stuff to PUMAs.
Goodnight Matt!
re#317 Sychoram..
you have a good point there..
Through the years Hillary has been totally vetted and has nothing to hide..she would be a more formidable opponent to McCain..true..
damn I almost spilled my drink over the botox comment
goanderson: great post, I especially liked this part of that story link:
Obama’s talents lie in his gift of oratory and his ability to move people with emotion, but this does not necessarily make for a good commander. The chief executive’s job requires forward thinking, realistic assessments of the world’s threats, and the maturity to make judgments in a crisis.
Thanks for posting it.
DWP: The Electability list.
Hi pumas-This “You Tube” has been around for quite a while, but you can’t see it enough. It is really funny satire. The star is a HUGE Hillary fan. It is has @ss kicking chicks-perfect for Seneca Fallsmas eve-the anniversary of the start of the women’s movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDU9xKNo-zo
#328 antifish
The Repubs don’t need to campaign, the divisions in the Dem party is great for them, they get to save money with the Dems tear themselves apart. McCain should be grinning from ear to ear, he’s saving a fortune by sitting quietly while the Dems blow up for the world to see. McCain is looking like the solid, well composed leader during all this.
335 pa dem
Ooooooooooooooooooooh. lol
#322 NFiL,
Thank you for all your hard work. I promise to come visit tomorrow and spend some time with you.
I want to copy the stuff from falling-in-line to make posters…is it okay ? does anyone know? Besides the daily prowl , I have been making copies of revelant stuff and spreading it around …
NotFallingInLine – I like Ad 1. Excellent!!!! Y’all go visit and vote for an ad.
Are you talking about Janis’s posters (FDR, etc.)?
re# 334 hills the one..
I’m no Phd or rocket scientist.. graduated from HS..but in my opinion Obamas speeches are CORNY AS HELL!.
That guy must have spent years digging in his dictionary and thesaurus for every CORNBALL 50 cent word he could dig up..talk about TRITE,BANAL and transparent..
hell,I could write a much better speech than mr cornball Obama!!
#328 – the botox comment! LOL. antifish I love your wicked sense of humor. now to find andersen’s link.
trish, still here? would you email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com?
thanks
Hey everybody look what I got Hello slyt2,
We at http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net would like to wish you a happy birthday today! Isn’t that nice.
#337 Trish,
I so agree with you. McCain is looking like a president, while Obama is looking like some lead act in a never-ending circus.
maxgrader:
re: “However, if what Frank Zappa once disputed is evidential… that the most abundant element in the universe is not hydrogen but stupidity… then this country is in more trouble than I thought,”
forget Frank Zappa. Main thing to realize is that most Americans read at the 8th grade reading level…therefore, reporters need to do be clear & concise when reporting about anything political and especially when talking about PUMA.
OK I think I am done talking about Mr. Tom & abc for now…now I want to talk about 2 other media-related items…hold on…
“The future does not belong to those who are content with today, apathetic toward common problems and their fellow man alike, timid and fearful in the face of bold projects and new ideas. Rather, it will belong to those who can blend passion, reason and courage in a personal commitment to the great enterprises and ideals of American society.”
Robert F. Kennedy, University of California at Berkeley, October 22, 1966
I meant the ads from NotFallingInLine…may I copy them ? they are fantastic!!!
NOBAMA is a COMEDY OF ERRORS!
File this one under, ‘Why is the media so dense?”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/index.html
Team Clinton Gearing Up for 2012?
July 18, 2008 3:58 PM
ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: Rumors are swirling over whether or not former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is secretly planning a run for the presidency in 2012.
Clinton aides have stressed that Sen. Clinton’s, D-N.Y., focus now is doing everything she can to help her party’s presumptive presidential nominee, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., emerge victorious in his race for the White House.
However, over the past week several items have piqued the interest of speculators who wonder if Clinton and her team are gearing up for a possible 2012 bid.
This week Clinton sent her donors an email noting that she would welcome contributions of general election funds they donated to her presidential campaign to her 2012 Senate bid. General election funds are traditionally returned to donors if the candidate loses in the primary race. Clinton’s campaign is required to return this money to donors by August 28th. With that deadline approaching, Clinton emailed her supporters offering them that option.
The catch? The funds from her Senate account could be transferred into a possible 2012 bid for presidency, if Clinton decides to run. etc. etc.
~ ~ ~
NO, you meatheads! She only suspended, not ended, her campaign…
TrishFromCanada
How are we doing? Send me more tomarrow if you have any.
#343 freepuma,
Worse than that, he spent the last four years Googling every speech ever made and stealing lines from them. I thought it was so funny when he got caught using the same speech as Duval Patrick when Hill accused him of having just words and no substance. It was one of the highlights of the campaign for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc
I voted for the number 1 add at Notfallinginline. We will not forget. I like it.
gngiht matt
just wanted to login and let all know im still with u
still mad at dnc dean p. and all
ashamed to be a dem after this freak show
do anything i can to help in denver
and give u all support my hats still off to murphy and mama for the great job keep it up we are greatful
slyt2 – happy birthday!
http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Beautiful site you are very talented. I like the first ad
nite mpdamon – see ya tomorrow
Tome for me to go. Goodnight all. Keep feeding the PUMAS.
TrishinCanada,
McCain *is* campaigning. He was in San Diego last week. I unplugged my TVs on May 31, so I can’t say what kind of media coverage he received.
freepuma,
yeah, we might think so (Obama’s speeches), but the Dem Party liked them well enough to start talking about him as a presidential candidate right after the last convention…dum. Besides, as the article said, he doesn’t have the qualities to be a good leader.
TOPIC: msnbc (Again!)
Meanwhile, back at msnbc…
The only thing they can report about today is Hillary parting her hair differently?!! see-it-to-believe-it, this is y(our) media, people!
http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/07/breaking-msnbc-political-news-hillary.html
the greatest night of my life was when the gov that was supporting him couldnt think of an accomplishment he had done on national tv
that was my highlight
Good night you guys Everyone who is leaving don’t forget and come back tomarrow
I think Senator Obama would make a good counselor at a camp for inner city children. From there he could probably work his way up to Director, maybe.
Thank you Dragonfly
345 slyt2:
Yes, it’s July 19, Saturday, already. Happy birthday to Slyt2. May you have a wonderful day today and be happy and healthy ever after.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to dear Slyt2.
Happy birthday to you!
damn I didn’t vote for em… I thought both ads rocked.. I sure wouldn’t wanna be the one to chose which went first
208 1gypsy4mc
was just reading the blog…excellent letter! love it
!
Good night, snowtiger!
I’m headed out, as well.
Goodnight, antifish, oneforall, dragonfly, cosmeta, goanderson, & all pouncing pumas on the Full Moon!
“Goodnight, comb, goodnight, brush,
Goodnight, old lady at the Rules Committee Meeting pounding the gavel and yelling, “Hush!”
;D
#336 greenfun,
I never get tired of watching that video. It is so awesome!
Good nite hillstheone!
363 hillstheone
That’s sort of like in here when folks focus on Pelosi’s botox and Brazile’s looks and needing to wear lipstick.
Same coin, other side.
Happy Birthday slyt2!
Nite Hill -Come back
I love BOTH of the ads! lol too hard to chose! Let me ask you something..if I pay for the ad to be put in my local papaer is that okay? I will first have to check it out and see if they will actually put it in there (they are quite the picky paper! ) but if it isn’t horribly expensive, I will just pay it out of my pocket..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie3vDoOdIY0
Hey this is the youtube andersen posted earlier – it’s great.
375 freepuma
No way above a 10 on the index – He broke the scale
ya I better head off to bed too… Goodnite PUMA’s grrrrrrrr
#371 hillstheone – good night! Loved your good night moon reference. my son used to ask for that story over and over
#374 Dances,
Sometimes people just need to have a little fun. We are not the media broadcasting to millions of people in America. There is a huge difference. I can just imagine what the people you mentioned say about us.
Thank you now I’m just getting older..lol
378 Sunshinelvr
Oh, if you are thinking full page they run between 50 thousand to 100 thousand dollars. You need to sell off your house and your neighbors to pay for it.
Goodnight sychoram!
antifish, your military training must allow you to stay up all night without rest and still get up at dawn for your animal friends.
I’m fading fast
omg! hmm..u r right ..I would have to..
what was I thinking??!! thanks 
382 Dragonfly
I got your email Thanks
383 antifish
It’s sexist… no matter what anyone else is saying.
Would you defend racism with that same argument?
well..is it okay if I may copies myself and spread them aroung town??
make
who do I ask?
#390 – hold on, let’s not get started again. No one said anything about Brazile that I’ve seen. The botox thing is not sexist – it’s about being fake. Pelosi is a hypocrite and a failed leader.
Dances, I love your passion, but don’t turn it against fellow PUMAs.
well goodnite everyone I’m going to bed now.
I can’t get anymore posters from our site…so I am just looking for things to copy and print and spread around
re#380 stardust
slyt2..sincerely hope you had a wonderful birthday
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Sunshinelvr – I am not sure of NotFallingInLine’s alter ego, but there is a contact place on the blog. The ad does mention NotFallingInLine and so attribution is given. I would think it is not a problem, but do give attribution to his/her website if you end up altering the ad.
394 Dragonfl
Missing a thread doesn’t mean it (Donna Brazile’s looks) hasn’t been discussed.
I’m sorry, altering the ad sounds wrong. what I mean is, if you use NFIL’s stuff, give attribution. If you don’t use it exactly as created, then reflect that and let NFIL know what the final looked like.
Am I making sense this late at night? aarggh
I don’t intend to alter it and I will be sure to credit the site/author..but if he/she wants it to be theirs alone..I won’t copy it..
I hope I do too it would be wonderful birthday if Obama sees the light and quits..Thanks for the birthday wishes and thanks for the song NJPUMA
#387 Dragonfly,
Yes, I function on 4 to 5 hours of sleep. It is from the military. Something I haven’t been able to get over even though I retired 6 years ago.
#400 Dances, I am unaware of it, so why don’t you point me in the right direction? Is it something that needs to be removed?
#372 Right on Antifish-that video always makes me smile too.
You are so right about Mccain looking more Presidential every day, and Obama looking more absurd. What a long strange trip it has been.
Tired, tired Puma. Night night all.
I only have a personal printer, I just loaded up fresh ink a week ago and now it is asking for more.I have been printing up a storm!
#390 Dances,
I disagree. Men use Botox too. I don’t see where it is sexist.
#402 – I understand. I am not sure how to get NFIL’s attention though right now to verify. I don’t have NFIL’s email. I’m sorry not to be more helpful.
night greenfun
#394 Dragonfly
“Dances, I love your passion, but don’t turn it against fellow PUMAs.”
If calling out the “isms” is turning against PUMAs, so be it. Principles above party.
I also think it’s disingenuous to cry foul when people focus on Senator Clinton’s looks, when we are selves are doing the same thing.
#401 Dragonfly You made purrrfect sense to me..I have no problem giving the credit where it is due and I have no intentions of doing any changes thanks for reply
Sunshinelvr – do you want me to email you something? email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com. I archived some of our stuff in my hard drive.
Nite Greenfun!
I will just hold off until I can be sure to get permission from owner ..caution is always best when using someone else’s words… One’s writing can be pretty personal!
408 antifish
“I disagree. Men use Botox too. I don’t see where it is sexist.”
It’s sexist because the focus is on the looks of the two women, rather than their positions.
But, you haven’t answered the first question.
383 antifish: “Sometimes people just need to have a little fun. We are not the media broadcasting to millions of people in America. There is a huge difference. I can just imagine what the people you mentioned say about us.”
DWP: It’s sexist… no matter what anyone else is saying. Would you defend racism with that same argument?
Cosmeta, I also was in touch with the Argus Leader. (I contacted the press in every primary state. And I wrote to school papers in those states, too.) In fact, I not only blogged at the Argus but, I also contacted their editors directly to thank them for clarifying HRC’s remarks about RFK and to ask them to endorse her in the primary.
I have noticed, you and I are often on the same page.
#411 Dances,
Calling out isms is fine by me. But antifish is right – botox is not sexist. Both genders use it. It is about being fake.
Again, I would appreciate knowing how to find the objectionable stuff about Brazile so that I can help Murphy evaluate whether it needs to be removed.
I am not trying to discourage you from blogging about what is important to you; I am asking that you not jump to the conclusions about whether anyone here is a sexist without probing further with someone what they mean. Antifish has explained re: botox.
When it gets late on the blog, sometimes tempers flare. Let’s not go down that road. That is not where I am headed.
#402 Sunshinelvr,
If you go to the website and sign up, you can ask the site owner if it’s OK to use the ad. That would be the right thing to do. I signed up there a few days ago to take part in the actions.
#417 jbjd – I checked out Argus too. I am so glad you blogged there. I got pulled away. I am glad that the RFK commentary was explained. You know, it bears remembering that his own family supports her.
Cosmeta has been such a wonderful resource on the blog and so have you!
Thank you.
#419 antifish thanks for the suggestion antifish..I have decided to do that..it is the best policy to ask first!
#416 – Dances – stop the debate. We are not a debating blog. No attacks on antifish. I wouldn’t let anyone interrogate you either. Enough.
Let’s turn our scrutiny on the people who really are sexist, please
418 Dragonfly
First of all, I wasn’t having this discussion with you. I was addressing antifish.
Secondly, I referenced a recent thread trashing Donna Brazile’s appearance. People who read or were otherwise involved in that thread know what I’m referring to…
It isn’t that someone has to go and remove the thread… I’m using that thread to make my point. You don’t have to take my word for it, if you are that curious, go look for it. It was an evening thread.
By the way… my temper isn’t flared.
#416 Dances,
I don’t know where your coming from now. To answer your question, no, I would not defend racism with any argument. It is indefensible!
I still hold the position that a reference to Botox is not sexist. It is a product used by men and women alike. If anything it is a testament to their vanity and, as Dragonfly alluded to their phoniness.
I’m not attacking antifish. We’re having a discussion.
antifish
Then why are the looks of Brazile and Pelosi at the fore, when the looks of the male principles are not?
hmm..well I have to go fix hubby’s meal..he is a nite owl out keeping our city safe..tc all and let me say I appreciate all that each of do… If any of you get to Ga ..come on over and we’ll grill and swim… and sit in the sunshine~..
OK, Dances, Howard Dean looks like he could use a little Botox too. There, does that make you feel better? LOL!
Oh, I am not far from you. I am in the panhandle Sunshinelvr. I’ll email you soon.
Sunshinelvr,
Goodnight. Where are you in GA? I’m in Acworth.
ok one last thought before I actually go to bed… Howard needs a cranial-rectal inversion procedure performed.. then he can get his head out of *61′s ass
south ga ..50 or so miles south of Macon..and I thought you meant Texas when you said panhandle…lol…
right off golden isles parkway…
#433 LOL – no the little pan handle
#432 sychoram,
We would need a Monster Truck to pull Howards head out of BO’s butt!
#432 – LOL!
I am close to Pensacola
tc all gtg mbbl..nice to see the south is represented!!
#433 Sunshinelvr,
I grew up in Douglas. I’ve also got a couple of panhandles in my kitchen!
I went to Oprah’s message board to possibly post about PUMA. Interestingly, her board has had a redo and it no longer allows for political discussion. From what I can figure out, it happened within the last couple of weeks.
This is what one of the posters said:
How strange for Oprah to endorse a candidate for the Presidency, and then to shut-down and censor any discussion of politics on a board once known for its political discussions.
Greenfun, I went to your vid link, and scooted around a little and came across this. Hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U
re#432 Sychoram
maybe Obama would get his jollies if Howard Dean were to blast his famous scream during that process you so describe..
scarlet – that is very interesting. I have posted there before and written to Oprah. It is very unlike her to shut down dialogue. More Obama secrecy and control I guess. He’s got to monitor the discussion through his own blogs?
#441 scarlet,
I don’t think we’ve met. Welcome aboard! Yes, didn’t Oprah do us all a favor by declaring Barack was “The One”? Now, she seems to want to distance herself from the whole thing. Could it be because her ratings are going down the tubes?
#444 Dragonfly
Or maybe Oprah isn’t as supportive of Obama as she used to be. Hmm.
#420 Dragonfly
Thank you. Nice to be appreciated.
Of course, I already knew RFK, Jr. was not offended at the comment. And I knew she had made the same comment 3 months earlier, in March, to Time, which printed these remarks, without a peep by BO’s minions. I just wanted to thank the Argus Leader for coming to HRC’s defense, having ‘been there’ when she made the remarks to their editorial board, putting them in the best position to reaffirm the context preserved in the tape of their session.
#442 deadgirlsrise,
I loved that video!
#361 DancesWithPumas on 07.19.08 at 12:59 am
I stopped watching TV too, in mid-April, I could not take it anymore, leaving the men in the house to take over completely with Spike, and History Channel, and FOX. They give me their take on what they are seeing. The see a major bias toward promoting Obama. Regular people see through him. Me, I can’t even watch our peeps going on the tube national, I am that scarred and biased against the Main Stream Media. I have the alterniverse of our common blogging. That’s where I go to find everything going on high and low. I don’t miss TV at all really. Usually at this time I am watching Boston Red Sox or SF Giants day in and day out. I am off Baseball too. I am thinking and learning to drive like a PUMA.
Firebelle and antifish – you must be right. I didn’t realize her ratings went down. I have boycotted her, of course. Hey, did you hear that google’s stock is plummeting! hahahahahahaha That’s what they get for shutting down speech. Jerks.
#322 NotfallingInLine
I’m voting for the first ad!
#447 jbjd – you’re welcome.
Hey, EWard, where ya been?
Yeah Anti Rodham, that was a hoot, I had to hold my nose through a couple Obot ones about Jedi and stuff, Hilary as Darth Vadar and whatnot to get to that vid. That other one was silly, if anyone wants that link, email or chat me
deadgirlsrise on gmail.
#306 freepuma
Senator McCain has had all kinds of health problems. I know that he has had skin cancer lesions removed from his face. In addition, when he was a POW, he was tortured. If you notice, his gait is impacted.
Hollywood should just stay out of politics.
#450 Dragonfly,
I really think our disgust with what went on during the primary is shared by more people than we know. Many older citizens don’t have computers, but they are not stupid. Many of them were once Oprah fans.
As far as Google, they deserve what they get. They are so far up BO’s butt we’d need a robotic arm to get them out.
I’m pretty tired y’all. need to email sunshinelvr some flyers and then I’m shutting down for the night. g’night all.
Nite Dragonfly!
#457 antifish LOL!
#456 pumaindy,
I agree!
#453 Hi Dragonfly
I’ve been right here. I was working on four separate letters to the editors and other Puma assignments. By the time I get home from work and finish my Puma homework, I just want to browse on Puma Pac.
Hi EWard,
Haven’t seen you around for a while!
#306 freepuma
Assuming your question is legitimate, albeit crudely phrased, let me suggest that, perhaps Senator McCain’s facial expressions are affected by extensive surgery he underwent as treatment for melanoma.
By the way, the Governor of Massachusetts is Deval Patrick.
so who are the fullmoon vampires left out here, yoohoo, that means you lurkers too… and bots, any bots out there – if you bore me I will fall asleep
449 deadgirlsrise
Hear ya.
“SF Giants”
Hummmmmmmmmm, baby!
I was a fan when I lived in Berkeley.
It was fun rooting for the underdog!
#451 EWard
So far, it looks like Ad 1 is winning!
Thank you for providing so much informaion from all your research. The more we know about him from before 2004, the more we have to use against the morons who failed us so badly.
jbjd, Do you still need to communicate with me? Did you see my suggestion for how you can get your gmail to me privately? If you register as jbjd, I will have it.
And, if anyone was wondering: no. I don’t sleep anymore….
As soon as that Google thing happened, I changed my search page to yahoo (not that yahoo is blameless either – I just haven’t heard much about them). If Google stock is taking a dive, then I hope that my not visiting their page anymore is helping to bring them down.
I grew up in Northern Cali. and the Giants was da chit for me all my life!!! Then I moved to New England, and learned to really love the Red Sox! My dream would be a Red Sox vs. Giants World Series! I liked the Cardinal’s when I lived in St Louis, but not when they played the Giants, same goes for the Red Sox.
#467 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org
Yes, I did. Please contact me and I will respond first thing tomorrow.
“Google’s” revenue earnings estimates are down because people aren’t clicking on the ads.
Oprah’s ratings started sliding when she began campaigning for Senator Obama, and ran reruns for weeks on end. Her political position, supporting Obama, also contributed to the slide.
470 deadgirlsrise
I’m a native New Yorker. I would be excommunicated were I to root for the Red Sox.
All right, Nite all.
#463 Hi antifish
I always enjoy reading the Puma posts. And I second the return of Goalucard!
#471 jbjd ~
Got it. Sending now.
NFiL
Can’t decide between the two ads. Flip a coin for my vote.
Nitey Night Anti!!!
yeah, I bet I know who you rooting for Dances!!! lol
I am still checking out your ads NFIL!
Fortunately for us, Obama has chosen mostly hip-hop entertainers for his coronation….er, I mean, nomination acceptance charade. Fortunate because there are far more voters nationwide who are NOT into hip-hop and rap.
I am beginning to psychically and intuitively experience that just about everything the Boy and his wife MO do is working against him and by November he will be this country’s greatest embarassment.
479 deadgirlsrise
“yeah, I bet I know who you rooting for Dances!!! lol”
Ya think?
snowtiger, you’re makin me laugh
went to yes to democracy site and it is lame
i do not care to muster up the stamina to go to the other Bot sites and will prob not go back to any but is is amusing (albeit, saddening) to see how infantile and naive people can be. they really would rather have the “easy” choice and fall in line and not really think
they don’t understand the kool-aid metaphor nor , for that matter, the gravity of this entire situation. the media control over our society has got to be derailed somehow… the man behind the curtain pulling on the controls has got to be exposed and i , for one, would love to pull his pants down!!! so, no ,,…. i do not feel sorry for our glassy-eyed obamacrats…but i do hope the hundredth monkey gets counted real soon so a sea change of understanding can sweep the country and wake everyone up. i am finding it hard to go to sleep…must be the full moon*
“…and by November he will be this country’s greatest embarassment.”
That’s saying a lot when you consider the person currently in the WH.
NFIL ~ I brought up both ads side by side in my browser tabs, and I have to say I favor AD 1. Firstly because it really hits home about the DNC leadership, and holds them responsible for the debacle and corruption. Plus it hits hard the fact of their chosen nominee’s selection, not election.
Hey Dances, when I am in Yankee country I wear Giants gear eheh!
I hope the loud popping noise doesn’t frighten Bo too much~~~~when he finally pulls his head out!
Hmmmm…
“Former Senator Phil Gramm resigned late Friday as a co-chairman of Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign, capping a day filled with controversy for Mr. McCain, the presumed Republican nominee.”
nytimes.com
486 deadgirlsrise
That’s sorta like wearing a Kucinich shirt to a Clinton rally… no real threat.
Donnas I am wide awake too. Want to go to the mall first thing and pounce on some shoes I saw… sorry, this deadgirl likes stuff like that right now. All I did forever was work lots of hours and come home. I have been off this week taking a Staycation. Reading lots of blogs more than blogging. The retail therapy is taking my mind off whats eating me lately, like the political situation we are in. I tell myself it helps the retail economy, with a China side-effect I still don’t know what to think about.
LOL Dances, EXACTLY!
There’s a video at The Confluence showing Obama fans fainting away. After three fainting at three events, I’m wondering if the fainters were ‘plants”. The point of the video in conjunction with the article is to point up the cultish swooning over a candidate.
Dances do you have that link to NYTIMES? lemme see I might find it…
#491 deadgirlsrising
My first love was the Brooklyn Dodgers. I never forgave them for abandoning us fans after all the razzing we took for them.
Later, I became a Mets fan. I lived there when they built the stadium, now they’re tearing it down.
I couldn’t root for the Oakland Athletics because that would have meant seeing Jose Canseco one too many times. So, I cheered for the Giants, by default.
Botox…
Another comment about the botox vs race issue.
#429 Antifish
#416 Danceswith pumas
I enjoy both of your posts — knowledgeable and funny. Keep up the great work.
Yes, both men and women use botox but for more than making us look younger. It is now being used for PAIN!The botulism virus (I think it is a virus) , my doctor said, is being used for many types of things now and is apparently getting very good results. I was as shocked as you must be about this but thank goodness for new therapies for chronic pain. As mine can get pretty bad, I know I will enjoy every opportunity to get the injections! A little wrinkle-elimination would be nice too but I don’t believe insurance covers it. : )
lol
Diva2
http://www.nytimes.com
The article is on the front page.
495 diva2
Interesting.
I have been forbidden from discussing… so I won’t.
yup, I read it… sorta biased in a faintly slanty way, other than that it was straightforward enough I guess.
I wonder what is up at NOQUARTER tonight. I’ve been out of the loop today retailing… the last day of my Staycation…
Just wondering if BOBots are the products of “No Child Left Behind”:
Can’t write anything meaningful
Can’t form grammatically correct sentences
Don’t have original thoughts
Can’t form reasoned arguments
Lack rational thought processes
Don’t understand math
Swear a lot
Eeeeeeeek. If this isn’t a good reason to abolish that program, I don’t know what is. How much more proof do we need?
#497
Have a great night’s sleep and if you know anyone suffering for chronic back pain, please let them know about this new alternative and I won’t discuss the topic with you anymore.
Peace
Great document from the McCain folks. Y’all have probably seen this already but just in case.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/mccain_campaigns_parting_gift.php
diva2
I have a million questions about the treatment, one of which is why is viagra covered and not botox (used as an alternate treatment that isn’t related to vanity?)
But, I don’t want to be accused of “interrogating” you.
Two comments:
1. NFIL…I like Ad#1 for its clipped pace.
2. I unsubscribed from DNC emails but did not do so for Barack emails because I like to send a jab in the reply, saying in a variety of ways that I am giving money to PUMA PAC to defeat Barack. I just sent a reply to Barack’s previous day’s email, and in addition to the usual comments I wrote…”I am not a chump. I am a PUMA!” It feels good to give a virtual jab!
Obama’s “evolution” on … ??
“Evolution”. Great way to frame positions because noone can hold you to them… Obama can artfully evolve out and away from all of his positions.
Murphy,
I DO have some files that I downloaded from the Action Center and can email them to you if you need/want them.
PUMAPACUSA.ORG ACTION CENTER DOCUMENTS
Brazillesaidpostcard.pdf
DemsUniteflyer-Spanish.pdf
LGBT Flyer.doc
lookfamiliarpostcards.pdf
MARYLAND-PUMA-Flier-1.pdf
PA4HILL08-Flier-1.pdf
PA4HILLPUMAPAC-Flyer.doc
PUMAflyer08-bluestar4.pdf
PUMAflyer3-11.pdf
PUMAflyer3-111.pdf
SunnyPA-Pamphlet-Seniors.pdf
Wantmyvotepostcards.pdf
DAILY GROWLS
2008 0701 Open Letter.doc
2008 0701 Open Letter.doc
2008 0701.pdf – Cartoon
2008 0702.pdf – Bully Police USA
2008 0703.pdf – Mirror, Mirror, On the Wall Cards
2008 0704.pdf – Independence DAy
2008 0709 txt – Letter to Press 5 day action.txt
2008 0709.doc – Letter to Press 5 day action.doc
2008 0709.pdf – Letter to Press 5 day action.pdf
I also have a download of the MEDIA PAGE in HTML format on my pc.
From my own online downloads:
DNC DOCUMENTS
2004_DNC Platform.pdf
2006_DNC-Rules-and-Bylaws.pdf
2008_DNC Rules & Bylaws.pdf
DNC_CALL_February-2-2007.pdf
FLORIDA LAWSUITS
Geller-Order-5-27-08.pdf
Geller-Summons-5-22-08.pdf
HILLARY’S LETTER TO THE SUPERDELEGATES
rightchoice.pdf
MO ONLINE DOCUMENTS
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_26-501.pdf
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_51-751.pdf
080222_MOPrincetonThesis_76-981.pdf
Write me email and I can send them to you if you do not have any of the above.
LilyMaid…
I love replying to all those beggar emails…
I place my comment in the Subject field…and always add “PUMA”.
RE: botox
I knew someone once who had a condition where a muscle in his neck tightened so much that it was pulling his head to one side. Very painful situation. The doctors were shooting botox into the muscle to try to relax it and relieve some of the pain and tightness. I don’t think it was a cure, but it helped relieve some of the symptoms for a while. I can’t imagine going through something that painful.
#507 DWP…I know our goals are serious, but it is nice to have some fun in achieving them.
498 deadgirlsrise
Speaking of NoQuarter, did you read where teh numbers are there to impeach GW Bush? Even though it wouldnt remove him from office (the numbers are nit there for that to happen), it would send a message to US school children that we do/did not tolerate the abuse of power by a sitting President.
#485 deadgirlsrise
#504 LilyMaid
It’s looking like Ad 1 is favored by far!
Thank you for looking at both so carefully.
If you wouldn’t mind, please consider leaving a single comment to the post with the ads so that others who find the site by other avenues will see that the numbers of supporters of our movement IS GREAT AND GROWING!
509 LilyMaid
Agreed.
phew, almost midnight and I’ve just been able to log on and skim thru blogs tonite. someone mentioned they needed some flyers and can’t download. I just tried to access thru the link that was given earlier today and it’s kapuuut. No dice. If anyone wants me to send them my flyer with the tear-offs ( “…bluestar4″) let me know. I still have my original pdf file and would be glad to send.
Murphy, if you need me to re-send it as-is or you’d like changes made to it let me know–can do.
I’ll check in on the blogs again Saturday morning, but may not be around during the afternoon. I should be listed on Murphy’s list if anyone needs my gee-mail eddress. will be on for a few and then it’s time for zzzzzzzz’s.
#79 sheila7 on 07.18.08 at 10:01 pm, WROTE,
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#203 COSMETA
Regarding your post. I do not know why you thought I was taking care of you tube videos. I never said to my knowledge that I was handling that. I did get your videos but I thought they were just for my enjoyment. Anything that I am a part of I get back to people right away and if I don’t have an answer I even get back and tell them that I’m still looking so I don’t want it out there that I am not responding to people. I pride myself on being very conscientious so I just wanted to clear it up that I didn’t shirk any of my responsibility. It sounds like there was just some kind of misunderstanding. Thank you.
Then my mistake. But I really did recall you saying once, send me YouTube videos. My notation to myself reads:
Looking for YouTube Videos sheila7puma[@]gmail.com , so I probably assumed and wrongly so that you were in charge of that department.
My apologies, please!
#511 NFIL…I read your posts here, and you also have your own site. Great. Will you be adding our site to your links?
Just so that I’m 101% certain we’re talking about the same ad: the ad that many of you have said you like is Ad 1, “NOT FALLING IN LINE,” which repeats “We will not forget” over and over, and ends with “YES, WE WILL REMEMBER. AND WE WILL BE HEARD IN NOVEMBER”?
Sheila, that notation to myself was between June 8th and June 12th.
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
From NoQuarter
I wonder who’s going to pay for this redundant military?
The US military budget is already something like 3 times that of all industrial nations combined.
#503 Danceswith pumas
Just heard this same thing comparing oral contraceptives to Viagara. My answer would be that Viagara helps with a specific physical problem. Botox, for improving looks, is a cosmetic procedure and not for a physical problem or medically necessity . However, since I will be getting botox for my back it probaly will be covered as my back doesn’t need to look pretty, just needs to feel that way. By the way, oral contraceptives are considered preventitive. BUT, if you are having hormone problems, such as being menopausal, then OC’s are typically covered by health insurance. Actually, back on botox, if someone had a face disfiguration and botox was part of the treatment to fix that, my guess is that it probably would be covered.
Hope not too confusing.
Good question
diva2
LilyMaid,
How long have you been posting here?
519 diva2
No, not confusing at all. Glad to hear that it would be covered in those circumstances.
I read (started to read, but didn’t have the stamina or heart to read the entire article) that HHS is mucking around with contraceptives for women? (?)
I’ll go back to the article when I run out of things to be upset about.
#508 Pumaindy
I wish the best for your friend. Also, found another procedure called a razotomy.Also injections in the spine. Just heard about the botox and raxotomy recently. A new neurologist gave me this new info. It is sooo exciting. Tell your friend to keep searching for new and or different treatments.
Diva2
NFIN…since early June. I am just a foot soldier and have no aspirations to go higher. I don’t have the ability nor inclination to do all you do. I respect your extended efforts. Oh…when I started here in early June, it was my first time ever blogging. I am bowled away with the talents of my fellow Pumas, including you!
LilyMaid,
since it’s quiet in here, would you mind if I asked how you chose your nickname?
#524 LilyMaid,
I started here in early June too. And I never blogged before I worked day and night at this site either.
I had – still have – zero aspirations “to go higher.” I did everything humanly possible to avoid having to create my own site.
I did what I did because I had to, not because I wanted to. What we are trying to accomplish is too important.
#521 DanceswithPumas
Sold OC’s for several years. The great thing is that it is preventive and costs far less than women getting pregnant when they aren’t ready for a baby. Less pre-natal care, less healthy and/or premature babies.f someone’s OC’s are covered by insurance, oftentimes if a female is having hormonal problems, who are not menopausal, such as a teen-ager with irregularities in her monthly, that may be covered as it is considered it a problem.
I’m going to look for the article…
from Allegre’s blog:
“This is an action diary folks. Sure we can rant and holler to each other here, but I also want you to pick up the phone and call that SOB at the White House, and the head of the so-called Department of Health and Human Services – Mike Leavitt. They’re planning on messing with our access to healthcare services and contraception, and Hillary’s already on the case.
She and Patty Murray are wasting no time in calling them out for their underhanded plan to undermine our access to reproductive healthcare services. Make no mistake guys – this new rule would redefine abortion to include several widely used contraceptives (the Pill, the IUD and of course – Plan B) and is a clear attempt to cut funding to healthcare services to millions of us”
#417 jbjd on 07.19.08 at 1:23 am, WROTE,
[[ Cosmeta, I also was in touch with the Argus Leader. (I contacted the press in every primary state. And I wrote to school papers in those states, too.) In fact, I not only blogged at the Argus but, I also contacted their editors directly to thank them for clarifying HRC’s remarks about RFK and to ask them to endorse her in the primary. ]]
Well—you went much further than I. All I did was to do a web search when CNN did that 20 news BREAK inbetween commercials. LOL and found the Argus web site. I will often go there just to watch her again because it is such a lengthy video.
The screen name I used there was MYSTICAL_WOMAN
[[ I have noticed, you and I are often on the same page.]]
What is that old saying, great minds think alike.
) Or, how about, birds of a feather flock together. Me, I develop my own sayings:
May God bless
The sinner and saint,
And me who ain’t,
Either/or.
I have a huge concern with the “civilian national security force”. I suspect that this force is being proposed to help with national security. My concern is that BO’s idea of national security is to quell anyone who does not support him. That would be bad for all of us. Can you imagine a civilian national security force composed entirely of BO supporters? Yikes.
531 pumaindy
Frightening.
Obama’s own private military.
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/silence/archives/2008/07/what_is_obamas.shtml
Obama: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
DWP…it is from a poem. A beloved professor in college called me that. The Lily Maid tends to see life through rose colored glasses. She loved Lancelot and helped him regain his health. But Lancelot loved Guenivere. Sadly the Lily Maid dies and floats down the Thames on a barge….I haven’t read the poem in over 30 years. I chose the name purely for sentimental reasons because of the those years when there was purity in my belief in the goodness of mankind, and that good always triumphs over evil.
Private military forces (mercenaries) don’t have to follow the standard conduct of war (sounds like an oxymoron), nor the Geneva Conventions.
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NEW YORK (Reuters) – A Bush administration plan to define several widely used contraception methods as abortion is a “gratuitous, unnecessary insult” to women and faces tough opposition, Sen. Hillary Clinton said on Friday.
The former Democratic presidential candidate joined family planning groups to condemn the proposal that defines abortion to include contraception such as birth control pills and intrauterine devices.
It would cut off federal funds to hospitals and states where medical providers are obligated to offer legal abortion and contraception to women.
“We will not put up with this radical, ideological agenda to turn the clock back on women’s rights,” the New York senator told a joint news conference with New York Rep. Nita Lowey, also a Democrat, at Bellevue Hospital.
“Women would watch their contraceptive coverage disappear overnight,” said Clinton.
The planned rule is aimed at countering recent state laws enacted to ensure that women can get contraception when they want or need it. It also would help protect the rights of medical providers to refuse to offer contraception.
Clinton said she has written a letter with Patty Murray, a Democrat senator from Washington, to Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt asking him to reconsider and reject the release of the proposed rules.
*********************************************She also urged people to sign a petition on her website, http://www.hillpac.com, against the proposed changes.
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417 jbd…
Meant to say, 20 seconds
{{Well—you went much further than I. All I did was to do a web search when CNN did that 20 second news BREAK inbetween commercials. LOL and found the Argus web site. I will often go there just to watch her again because it is such a lengthy video. }}
That *was* the interview that CNN and other stations pulled that sound bite from. So their site was the real deal.
Have you ever notice that whenever Hillary said something media didn’t like they stayed with it for days and sometimes for weeks on end, but when BHO goofs, next day it is gone?
#525 DanceswithPumas
If you know who was working the action center and decided not to do it all of sudden, could I send you and email to pass on to her. She has made one of the greatest contributions to PUMAS with her ideas, organization and information like delegate infor., etc. So, I will write the letter to you tomorrow if you can get it to her. She needs to know that her action center made PUMAS made great headway under her guidance. They were focused, action-activated, felt feelings of accomplishment and made thousands and thousands of contacts in such a short period of time.Thanks I would appreciate it.
My meds are kicking in and will be sleeping like a baby soon.
Enjoy our wonderful moon tonight!
My eyes are
LilyMaid, Thank you for sharing.
“I chose the name purely for sentimental reasons because of the those years when there was purity in my belief in the goodness of mankind, and that good always triumphs over evil.”
And, that belief… has it left you, did you send it away?
Have you ever noticed that CNN made Hillary look like she was shorter than she really is and altered the video to make her look like she had heavy hips, but one did not get the same visual from other stations?
When I noticed that, was when I turned CNN off.
#532 Dances….
Yes, and legal and on American soil and fighting HIS ‘enemy within’. Very frightening indeed.
I know people discuss party lines, but I think that we are fighting for our basic freedoms in this election cycle. Party lines seem unimportant in that light. That’s why BO’s supporters can scream all they want about party lines – I am not listening on that topic.
Country before Party for me.
Besides, I am an Independent and have been for many many years. Independent meaning that I don’t align with any one party. I always try to vote for who I think is the best candidate. So it amuses me that they think PUMAs are Republicans – how naive they are.
538 diva2
No, wait. I wouldnt mind forwarding it… but perhaps it would be more appropriate for Murphy or Mama or Maryland Puma to send it?
If they can’t, I will…
I just noticed the time…
3:25 am here…
Catch you all in the morning after the sun comes up.
May God bless,
DWP…let’s see what happens in Denver…lol. I know you still have yours because of the imagery of you dancing with Pumas. There is a joy of life in your name. I recognized it from the start.
544 LilyMaid
“There is a joy of life in your name”
Thank you for that. Sometimes I need to be reminded!
http://www.hillpac.com/action/hhspetition/?sc=2493
Here’s a more direct link to the petition.
Well, I have to go work on a website (ugggh. lol). I’ve been putting it off because it’s the tedious stuff. I must stave off the lawyers, or I will be sued.
#336 greenfun on 07.19.08 at 12:45 am
Hi pumas-This “You Tube” has been around for quite a while, but you can’t see it enough. It is really funny satire. The star is a HUGE Hillary fan.
Thanks for that video, my first time seeing it. Perfect for today has been a strange day, full moon a risin’
Seemed like a lot of stress and aggression and so I took a full back seat on the blog today. That video cheered me up.
It will be fun going to my first PUMA meeting with you Greenfun, looking forward to it tomorrow.
pa dem
Thank you for that! I just signed.
BillieJo
That should be great fun!
#547 DancesWithPumas on 07.19.08 at 3:30 am
Well, I have to go work on a website (ugggh. lol). I’ve been putting it off because it’s the tedious stuff. I must stave off the lawyers, or I will be sued.
What’s your website about Dances?
I’ve been working on a website all day too, changing font on buttons and reorganizing pages, ugh…tefious
By the way, if this site goes down abruptly, it’s probably due to server maintenance. It happened last week too.
http://www.hvpress.net/news/126/ARTICLE/4788/2008-07-19.html
National Women’s Rights History Project Act
Hillary Clinton
Washington, D.C. – Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton announced today that she will testify at a hearing in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday, July 30, 2008
BillieJo
It a summer camp alumni website. It’s been a hoot reconnecting friends who haven’t communicated in the past 40 years or so!
It’s also very dated… I created it in 2003 or 04…
rustic, just like the summer camps.
DWP…the other night Murphy called me “silly Puma” because I was crying about her getting threats. In Winnie the Pooh stories, Christopher Robin often says,I think, about (and to) Winnie…”silly bear”. I say to you DancesWithPumas…”silly Puma, your joy always is evident and will prevail.”
BillieJo,
what’s your website about?
#516 http://www.NotFallingInLine.org on 07.19.08 at 2:53 am
sorry, got side-tracked at NOQUARTER and the Confluence…
This is the AD 1 (1 from in the URL)
http://www.notfallinginline.org/ad1laa.htm
we will not forget!
Is it amazing to any one else just how much Senator Clinton is doing in the Senate? And how much more she could do as President?
#555 LilyMaid…
another lovely thought!
#558 pa dem
Hillary Clinton is an exquisite human being.
LilyMaid
Are you going to Denver?
#542 Dances
I can send it it Mommapuma. I was sure who was the person that quit so I didn’t know if it was momma or Marylandpuma. So glad to know it wasn’t one of them.
Thank you for all your help.
#547 DancesWithPumas on 07.19.08 at 3:30 am
have fun anyway!
diva2
anytime.
The website is for a Masters and Credential program at UC Berkeley for students that want to teach English in Calif. It’s all the info about our program, application process and all the schedules, books needed each semester as it comes up, and lots of photos of our students. I made the site as a landing place for our students.
And yours?
deadgirlsrise
Okay, if you say so.
See? I just need direction.
oops dances, I see your reply way up there…
Has anyone seen or heard from mamapumamass?
BillieJo…
no offense but mine sounds like more fun! lol
#557 deadgirlsrise,
I was sidetracked too. Looks like we got back at the same time!
Thank you for confirming as specifically as possible.
You know, I originally wrote the second one with much more anger in it. Took it out. But it still has more of an edge to it.
My first reaction was surprise that nearly everyone likes the first one more, though having reread it a few times I see the wisdom in your choice.
I get so much great advice from you all.
Hey, speaking of a work that many of you worked with me to make better, have you all sent the Pelosi letter?
Let me get you that link…
#554 DancesWithPumas on 07.19.08 at 3:36 am
It a summer camp alumni website.
That’s cool. Great way for friends to stay in touch.
#569 DancesWithPumas
BillieJo…
no offense but mine sounds like more fun! lol
LOL, maybe, but I get to work at home on Friday’s because I have all the software….so it is fun for me.
Pelosi Letter Writing Campaign!
Help ensure that Hillary’s name is PLACED IN NOMINATION at the convention by sending emails to Pelosi.
If you haven’t sent this letter yet, please do so now.
If you have, send it again!
See:
http://www.notfallinginline.org/wordpress/?p=39
Our Hillary IS awesome, hard at work in the Senate! 2012!!! I have been rooting for her for several years now, I can root and wait a few more…
I am sorry that I have let the corruption in the DNC leadership really get to me, so I have no hope for the Convention, they are steamrollering over all 18 Mil of us! Should I be this down? Damn straight. Should I stand and fight? Damn Straight. but its going to take us long years to make the changes. One person one vote, we will turn them out a vote at a time.
I plan on giving money to their opponents, in the primaries and elections. I am going to use what I can spare of my money to do this, where I do not have the ability to cast a vote against them I will throw dollars against them. This I can do. Starting with Cindy Sheehan. 200$ to start!
Going to Denver in spirit. Physically I could not keep up the pace…not just because of the altitude, but also because I do not have the stamina for the activities. But, I contributed to help others go.
Okay, I am going to ask a question that has been bothering me all day, and since there are very few people on the blog right now, hopefully no one will blast me for it. I have a very sad feeling that in Denver not enough delegates will be strong enough to make a stand for Hillary. I hate thinking it and what to think that all the threats to PUMAs means we are making a difference. But I fear that delegates are not willing to stick their necks out for what is right.
What do you guys honestly think?
575 LilyMaid
I understand. I’m also disappointed. I would have enjoyed meeting you. Certainly we get a sense of each other’s energy online, but there’s just something about feeling another’s energy in real life, listening to the tone and tenor of their voice. I think most of all I like to hear the sound of your laughter.
#574 deadgirlsrise
Kind of sounds like you have the same fears I do today…
Can someone please tell me how to forward all my PUMA email from gmail to my email? I’d like to get this done if I can, cuz I don’t trust google. Be back tomorrow, I hope.
1lilwitch44
Lilymaid, I did too, I have health limits this summer (severe asthma) so I gave to the bus fund. Never know though, I might fly in to Salt Lake and rent a minivan if I cannot do this through Denver, since I am off the week of the Convention. I will live on adrenalin for a few days if I do. I wish we could have videographers embedded there, documenting and putting out those videos nightly.
DWP…likewise.
BillieJo
What I think is: Anything is possible.
A year ago, 6 months ago, three months ago, 6 weeks ago, could you have predicted any of the events that have delivered all of us to this place, to the PUMA movement? I couldn’t have predicted it.
So, as far as I am concerned, anything, and everything, is possible.
#580 deadgirlsrise…I appreciate your commiseration. I will root for your going…oh, and add a prayer of course.
#579 1lilwitch44 on 07.19.08 at 3:52 am
At the top of your gmail page, there is a settings link, click that, then click the following tab link in there:
Forwarding and POP/IMAP
then at the top, in the Forwarding area, click the dot on Forward a copy of incoming mail to _________ and insert the email address there. then at the botton click on the Save Changes button, and you’ll be good to go!
579 1lilwitch44
Can you “forward” email them to yoru other address?
I wonder if you serach help on the email you want to send it to and search for Import?
580 deadgirlsrise
I owuldnt be surprised in mawn and garychapelhill will be doing that. They took tons of video at the “unity” gathering in Unity.
Dances- You’re right about us all meeting as PUMAs was something I never thought possible.
As badly as I feel right now, I can’t imagine how Hillary must feel. To have won the majority of votes and be pushed out by people she worked with and trusted.
When Gore was pushed out of the election I was really angry at Bush, the Fla. Supremes and mostly the Republicans. Cheaters, I thought. Now my party is the cheaters and the dreaded dark side is just watching the DNC self-destruct. Tomorrow is another day. Hopefully it will bring more hope at the meetings. Maybe they come in the nick of time.
deadgirlsrise
I just copied and pasted your post…
Thanks for the instructions.
BillyJo, I have had this feeling of dread since Hillary suspended. They convinced her to quit, held her debt over her head, and they shut it down. I mean, SHUT IT THE F DOWN on her.
I lost my bearings for a while over that. I mean, who the F do they think they are, coercing and beating someone down to get them out of the race. And she gathered her good grace, and sacrificed her candidacy to their hardcore anti-democratic will.
Like we say around here.
THANK YOU HILLARY! We’ll Take It From Here!
#584 deadgirlsrise
Thanks for the info. If I already have a gmail account but it has my name in it…do I need to start a second gmail account as a puma to conceal my name???
Yipes, I already have 3 email accounts and it is a pain in the neck to check so many already.
589 deadgirlsrise
That’s the way they play.
Used to be that babies were delivered by midwives.
The patriacrhy decided that only those people (heh) with formal medical training could deliver babies. Fine.
But then, they only accepted men into those institutions.
it’s easy to win, have power over, when you eliminate the competition through underhanded means.
#584…deadgirlsrise…often when someone here gives help, I use the suggestions and don’t let the helper know…but today I want to give you a thanks. I copied and pasted your instructions.
Thanks, and goodnight. Have Purr-ful dreams…you too DWP and all Pumas on night patrol.
It killed me to see her on the Fox News standing with a smile on her face next to Pelosi while Pelosi was talking out the side of her two faced mouth
589 deadgirlsrise
BillyJo, I have had this feeling of dread since Hillary suspended.
I lost my bearings for a while over that. I mean, who the F do they think they are, coercing and beating someone down to get them out of the race. And she gathered her good grace, and sacrificed her candidacy to their hardcore anti-democratic will.
Like we say around here.
THANK YOU HILLARY! We’ll Take It From Here!
Yes, we are trying so hard to make a difference and when I was working on the delegate database with Trish I kept reading info on these people…thinking how many would never change from *61 by their background…many super delegates were college kids that think he is the savior.
I will get my hope back, I guess I just don’t trust delegates right now at all, I HATE that THEY have the fate of this election in their hands.
BillieJo, its been suggested that we create a PUMA email account on GMAIL for our PUMA actions. For instance, you would create BillieJoPuma at gmail.com
I am at deadgirlsrise on there, and you can use that chat feature. I think PUMA should use this more, as a side conversation to get help and give help when the threaded discussion is very busy and everyone talking.
Goognight, LilyMaid.
Pleasure talking with you, as usual.
whoa, how does a kid in school become SUPERDELEGATE?
I would like to take noname,pelosi,reis,howie and reid and knock their heads together.
#593 sandipuma
It killed me to see her on the Fox News standing with a smile on her face next to Pelosi while Pelosi was talking out the side of her two faced mouth
And Pelosi a woman that was so hopeful to most women in our country was back stabbing a more qualified woman and keeping her from becoming our President.
sandipuma: an Obama Omelette
#598 sandipuma
I would like to take noname,pelosi,reis,howie and reid and knock their heads together.
That was a great visual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking….bowling pins.
Well have everything ready for the Meetup get together so i better get some sleep else i will look like a herd of elephants ran over me. Yikes no i don’t want to look like Pelosi and Brazil….night all (((PUMAS)))
#597 deadgirlsrise
whoa, how does a kid in school become SUPERDELEGATE?
Not just one kid, MANY! They were the ‘president’ of the democratic club in their school or some BS. Yea, they get to pick our president while the voters of more than to flippin’ states get a half a vote of a simple citizen.
oops two flippin’ states….
Good night PUMA, it will be a better day tomorrow.
Sweet dreams.
I thought so too and Reid wrote me a Sandra Freind letter asking me to please help campaign here in Las Vegas for Noname and boy did i tell him where to go and to never ever call me his freind anymore as we have talked a few times before .I told him good too.Told him to tell old Howie that all the tea in china couldn’t get me to ever vote for their selected boy and that i would do whatever it took to keep BHO out of the WhiteHouse. Surprised that they stopped harrassing me.
Well have to be up in 6 hours i better get some sleep so goodnight all (((PUMAS)))
FUN READING
http://www.hellnobama.com/michelleobamathesis.html
http://www.hellnobama.com/quotes.html
good morning pumas
I had breakfast @ news that guffy is doing a suprise visit to afghanistan today
the idea of a militia, is an old totalitarian communist procedure, boils down to a secret service under instruction o command of the totalitarian leader,THE MAIN GOAL IS TO HAVE MASSIVE CONTROL OF THE CIVIL POPULATION
Good morning people.. My fear is that while we concentrate on super delegates Lord Obama is sewing up the pledged delegates. I’ve had this uneasy feeling since attending Maine’s convention.[caucus state] Could this be why a SD said that if Sen. Clinton’s name is placed in nomination she would be embarressed. Maybe the 75 thousand seat arena wasn’t arrogance but intimidation. We have to follow the money.
good morning pumas
have a great day /keep on fighting
If superdelegates do not carry the majority of party core democrats’ voice, they will be surprised in November.
Not everyone who is not at Pumapac blog, has changed mind on voting either Hillary C. or John M… Minds have been made up for 08.
Seems the Precious is poised to lose NY – 31 electoral votes
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/ny-may-go-red-in-november/
Morning all
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE -
Please note that the Action Center, although shut down , does still give us access to flyers, etc.
First let me say THANK YOU for allowing that.
Secondly – P L E A S E everyone download those items and get them distributed.
I live in Florida, and I am really starting to believe that DNC stands for “Do Not Count” votes
It’s why I became an Independent once Barack crowned himself King
WEll, scratch that folks. I just went to post my favorite money and can’t do so.
Looks like the several days is over, and I missed out.
Sorry for the post.
#619 MsBinMD.
I’m sure Murphy has something else in the works.
good morning Puma’s
Alice
Although from NY, I left the party over the same issue.
Florida 2000- Florida 2008 – my tenure in the party.
Good Morning Pumas,
BO landed in Afganistan this morning and no media went with him. I hope there are some reporters already there so that someone can follow him and report if he does or says something stupid.
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/07/19/obama-lands-in-afghanistan-will-visit-iraq/
As the anniversary of the Senical Falls convention is upon us, my thoughts wander beyond our current fight. This election in 2008 is truly historic. Not only did we have our first viable female candidate, but women have begun to participate in ways we never thought of before. The issue is not that a woman be at the helm for a woman being at the helm’s sake, rather that we, the people, need competent government. We elected a competent candidate who happens to be a woman.
I believe the issues we face are not just gender related. They certainly are not race related. They are people issues. We Democrats, have let common sense and competence be pushed aside for party unity many times before. It has yeilded us the likes of Dukakis, Kerry, Mondale and now Obama.
The truth is: The party has always had a destructive element. The back door deal has always been a shadow lurking just behind the curtain. The good ol boys club has always been part and parcel of our existence. The powers in the party accepted it, even nurtured it, using it for personal gain and issue success.
Now the time has come when we can no longer accept the status quo. The will of the people as defined by the one person one vote principle has been disregarded. Moreover, the will of the people has been disregarded since the first election of this century, both in the general election of 2000, and now in the Democratic Primary of 2008.
This fight and our movement isn’t just about the candidates. It is about our party, and in extension, about our nation and the world. We must not lose the fight for the soul of our people. We must not lose the principle of one person, one vote. We must insist on the allowance of participation by all, participation that counts equally with all other’s participation.
The women who gathered in protest to try to obtain the vote stood on just such a principle. They prevailed. It was a long hard battle, but they prevailed. The civil rights movement and voting rights reforms of the 1960′s were successful, and the people prevailed.
We must not go back to the deal making, behind doors double dealing of the precivil rights era. We must go forward, undoing the damage that was recently done, restoring our party to the principles it purports to stand for so that our nation can recover from the blows heaped upon it by the current people in power.
Heneri
sorry I meant Afghanistan
#624 Henerietta,
Well said. Good morning.
Two comments from the Bo camp that sums up their mindset:
—
Steve8:56PMJun 3rd 2008
NO Hillary because Bill would fine a way to eliminate Obama so she would be pres. If only Foster could talk. NO NO NO.
—
Book9:03PMJun 3rd 2008
The flag is nothing but a piece of cloth.
Look how many people have burned that piece of cloth
Good Morning Pumas,
Two articles for you this morning.
51,000 Superdelegate Emails & Counting In Just Two Days
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/51000-superdelegate-emails-and-counting.html
&
Obama’s Bus Rolls Over A Disabled American Veteran
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-bus-rolls-over-disabled-american.html
#628 TrishfromCanada ,
Good morning Trish. It is sad and a bit scary that these people think this way.
And another one, these are taen directly from the blogs on Bo’s website, yet he allows these comments to stay there, in the real world that means he and his campaign approve of these statements or they would be removed.
—
Gary9:13PMJun 3rd 2008
There is no way that Obama should have Hilliary “BITCH” Clinton for V.P. She has done so much damage to the Democratic with her crude, undiplomatic remarks. Anything to get the Nomination. She would be “BAGGAGE”. And, the “THIRD WHEEL” who has done even more damage, Billy Boy would be there trying to put his two cents in. He too has done much damage, after all Gore wouldn’t even let him campaign for his chance. What does that tell you?
And, Richardson would gain much more of the hispanic vote than that “Carpetbagger” Hilliary.
#629 jrhed,
Good morning. Thanks for the links. I will check them out.
#630 texassherry
Good morning,
It’s not just scary its an embarrassment to Americans.
Morning All,
Happy Birthday to the Women’s Rights Movement!
New post up —
Light posting today as I catch up on email and other things and get ready for the first Puma PAC radio show.
If you sent me an email I will respond today — but feel free to resend anything you think I should see right now.
Thanks for holding things together so well yesterday and the night before.
Take it upstairs!
#633 TrishfromCanada ,
I agree. It scares me the mindset of the next generation. The majority of them seem to have a lot of education, but lack in the areas of common sense, compassion, and patriotism.
LOL July 18th –
Michelle Obama: Using Blogher to Talk to People Online – Blogher
So I go there are read her dribble about how she can relate to the working women with children – yeah right. And not one comment after her article. I’m guessing the Bo train of fans can’t blog it because being the kids they are, they can’t relate to 1. work and 2. caring for children. That and the idea Mo is as boring as heck when she tries to reach out to people.
#636 TrishfromCanada ,
Murphy just started a new thread upstairs
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