Good Morning Pumas PAC — today is a new day and a new week! We have a BIG Action Week planned, so let’s get going. Thanks to the generosity and talent of Puma PAC member Fred, we have an amazing new Puma PAC poster/flyer for members to distribute. We have 5,000 of these intense and persuasive full color flyers ready to go. We are challenging you to distribute 100 of them in public places in your communities this week.
Today’s Action Item is to send an email to flyers@pumapac.org with your mailing address so we can send you 100 flyers. As soon as you receive them, start spreading them all over town!
Oh, and over the weekend, Obama pedaled then back-pedaled his views on abortion. So, that was a flip, and then a flop — watch today for another flip. What a flop this guy is. Link here.
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Good Morning Pumas, LOVE THE POSTER!
Good Morning PUMAs.
Today will be a good day. I have to get ready for work but I wanted to post this. It is long but has good info to share with others about “O” V McCain on taxes.
INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES
Spread the word…..
This is something you should be
aware of so you don’t get blind-sided.
This is really going to catch a lot
of families off guard. It should
make you worry.
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales
How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that ‘higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K – tax $4,500
Single making 50K – tax $12,500
Single making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 125K – tax $31,250
OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K – tax $8,400
Single making 50K – tax $14,000
Single making 75K – tax $23,250
Married making 60K – tax $16,800
Married making 75K – tax $21,000
Married making 125K – tax $38,750
Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren’t high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)
Have a great day PUMAs. I will check back in after work.
Wow, that makes you stand up and take notice. I know I don’t need any more taxes. Thanks for sharing!
This morning, Fox just talked about how crazily BO is flip-flopping. I don’t know how to link videos from Fox, maybe someone else can grab the discussion.
bythelake # 3
Your welcome. I just seem to make it out the door the morning. LOL. To many things to read online.
I think the following writer of kool aid wrote the story below, obama bashing, oh please;
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jul/02/na-fox-news-channel-appears-in-need-of-fairness-an/?entertainment
Good Morning PUMAs
Hope you all had a wonderful holiday weekend.
Did you listen in to PUMA radio last night?
Also, BigTicer of YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/bigticer has started blogging http://bigticer.wordpress.com and also with me on http://pumaalliance.wordpress.com
Please leave some comments, he has not blogged before but is very keen to help the PUMA cause.
If you haven’t seen his videos please watch them, and leave a comment, favourite and share. This is a very intelligent man talking about important issues.
Good Morning PUMAs. Lets ROAR!!!
Thank You murphy for all you do and are doing!!
Obama a blank slate flip flopping candidate;
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8691782
PUMAALLIE #7
I have been watching him since the first time someone posted his youtube. Did you invite him to join us here at the blog? You are right, he has some very good insights.
It is posted on another site that 8 SD’d reversed TO Hillary. Anyone have any info? Need to send them thank you if it is in fact true.
I was in and out over weekend and may have missed.
Will send my add to fliers. “THANK YOU FRED”
Idea for poster; blank slate (chalk board), fill in the obama blanks! I can picture it with him and a piece of chalk and eraser!
#9 by the lake – fox video
That video was Sunday’s discussion about his flip-flopping. Do you think you can pull up today’s video also? It was interesting this morning. I just don’t know how to do it or if it’s even up yet. Thanks for your help.
Good Morning PUMAS. Hope you all had a great holiday weekend.
Yes, FOX News is on the ball with covering the latest deceipt on Obama. Did anyone hear about the memoirs about his father? What I heard was that he mimicks Rev. Wright about how white people are, talks about his drug use like he had a great time with it and more. Anyone really suprised?
I called it so long ago that this guy was a SET UP! The American People are being sold a bag o trocks and they did it so cleverly using the sensitive issue of race. No one else played that card because that card was taken out of the deck long ago-Until Obomby thought he’d use it to his benefit.
You know, what made me so angry about it is that it actually worked. He was successful at creating some division among families, friends and neighbors where there was unity. Anyone who can be rational shouls be thinking about the true evil behind that strategy!
I will post this again:
Read the on-line book or buy it (but I could’nt find it in any local Barnes or otheres)
THE NOSTRADAMUS CODE
WORLD WAR III
2007-2012
by
Micael Rathford
Specifically pages 23. and 24.
If this is true-we have the power to stop it and change it.
It is creepy to think it possible but maybe doesn’t work for me. And I’m not the type of person to stand outside of the ARC and laugh. I’ll risk being the odd ball and get on the ARC.
This man has studied the codes all of his life and has an impressive educational backround. This was published and released in 2006, so No I don’t believe this could’ve been a way to attack a specific person-but it best describes someone and this situation we are currently in.
Must check it out.
Also, I am signing up today to hand out flyers!
Awesome job on Flyers!
Go PUMAS!
#10 MsBinMD
Yes I have invited him to join us here too. He is very busy with work and has not blogged before, but I think he will probably post on here as well once he gets used to it.
Anyone know if we were successful in clearing Hillary of debt?
#10, I’ll go hunt for it. The way I linked it was by sending an email to myself and then I copied it off that. Off to search!
#14 PumaAllie – I will go do same. He will definitely be asset here.
#16 BYTHELAKE – Thank you. I am pumped about this. Trying to accumulate some data for my own discussions . Still have some teetering friends and family.
# 2 ONTHEROCKS – This is wonderful information. Some that don’t listen on the issues always notice those items that will hit them in the old Bank Account.
Only 8:00 AM and already armed with new info for the day. My problem is opening the conversation with people.
good afternoon pumas¡¡
the african-americans should be furious at the fact that the undemocratic party brings the starlet as the representation of the african-american politician
which is more like an alcapone´s representation
I am sure there are many more afrian-american politicians that honor their ethnicity
Good Morning Pumas. I cant wait to get my flyers and distribute them. My husband is going to help. Also I received this email this morning from Will Bower if you are in doubt where your contribution to Hillary went here is contact info:
Hello, fellow PUMAs!
Last week, many of you reached into your pockets and generously gave what you could to help pay down Hillary’s campaign debt.
However, the main contribution link at HillaryClinton.com had been redirected towards a different account. Instead of going to pay off her debt, it directed contributions towards her 2012 Senatorial campaign.
If you have any doubt as to where your contribution went, you must contact the financial department at HillaryClinton.com and let them know where you had intended it to go!
For them to be legally able to redirect your donation *back* into her debt fund, you must make your intentions *clear* to them.
Here are four ways you can contact them, to let your intentions be known. Again, this is only for if you are in doubt. If you are confident that your money went to pay off her debt, then you need not pursue this.
If you *are* in doubt, please contact (any or all) of the following, and encourage your PUMA contributing friends to do the same:
Finance@HillaryClinton.com
JMantz@HillaryClinton.com (Jonathan Mantz)
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact
phone: 703-962-8600
Thank you, and I hope you had a great holiday weekend!
Will Bower
PUMA / Just Say NO DEAL
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#17, I know what you mean about friends on different sides. I sent the horrible Hillary bashing youtubes to a OB supporter. Haven’t heard back on what she thinks of that yet! She said she supported OB because he’s a demorat (purposely left out C). I told her that wasn’t a good enough reason. I hope to fill her with knowledge about the “selected” one. Shared this blog with her as well.
Will, thank you so much for speaking out and up for Hillary and US! Heard you last night, seen you on news clips, GREAT JOB!
Fox just reported that Ted Kennedy endorsed Obie because Caroline Kennedy wanted to get into “the family business” and she was part of the endorsement deal. Thus she is on Obie’s VP search team. Who was it that said Hillary and Bill were “pimping” out Chelsea?
Looks like Ted pimped out Caroline.
The Kennedy’s are has beens.
Wonderful idea, flyers . . . save me mucho printer ink.
The NYT has an article this morning about Nobama
in it’s politics section. It’s so sugerry sweet I couldn’t read it in full before breakfast. They’re trying to tout
his “community experience”. Enough to gag a maggot.
1 voice 2 stopcorruption
can you tell us a little bit about???
nostradamus has not fail on his predictions¡¡¡
“The Antichrist will work spend many years working silentlybehind the scenes to consolidate his power, and make his appearance onto the international arena once the structure is in place.” page 23 (CenturieIII, Quatrain 34)
Micheal Ranthford Nostradamus Code
“When his time comes, he will take advantage of the political situation in a country to rise to power.” page 23 (Centurie III, Quatrain 34) Michael Ranthford
“Because of his Middle Eastern heritage he will have already united Northern Africans, who are sympathetic to his cultural backround, with his Asian and Middle Eastern comglomerate.” page 24 (Centurie II, Quatrain 81) Michael Ranthford
I provided some exerpts in hopes that others will take a moment to research this and maybe agree or disagree with what I am led to believe.
Too coincidental? For me -YES! All of Obambies lies terrorist ties and intentional creation of division in a country that has a history of fighting so hard to be United-is flat out EVIL!!!!!!!!!
Our Democratitc Party leaders have been bought out! He bought some of Hillary’s people! Where did he get all of this money? Could not have come from just Oprah or small on-line contributions. The other countries that want him in power gave him money! Guess what countires they are? If he becomes President-which I believe he won’t simply because there is a unity amongst the GREAT AMERICAN PEOPLE that will demonstate ou distrust of him-and with that gigantic step taken-a higher power will see our efforts and assist us. But if he did-prepare yourselves because these trickeries are small in comparison to the damage he will create for us and other countries.
This isn’t about us-the people. This is all about Obama-his ego and his vow for vengeance.
We would be the laughing stock of the world. How could the American people elect a man who no one knows for sure was legitamtly born in the U.S.A.? (people kept poor records in those times/he knew his loop hole), How could they elect a man who displayed such obvious disrespect for what their Country stands for? (refusing to wear the lapel that represents the victims of 911/until recently he decided he would have to get elected because Americans LOVE their Country!
How about how he cahnged the U.S. Seal with his name on it? How about how he hasn’t always given honour to our flag and national anthem-hey a fact is a fact!)
How could they elect a man whose wife said this was the first time she is proud to be…? How could they elect a man who sat in a church that IS NOT CHRISTIAN for iver 20 years that beat the message into the members minds that America/ns are evil bad murderous….. people? (all of which they twist truth to become leaders in the members minds. How does someone obtain power? Review History and you will see that they create a conflict. Quite like Obamby has done.
How could the American people not see that he had prepared his entire life for this!!!!!!!!???????
We need Hillary and if her hands are tied-we need McCain for now and then elect Hillary 2012. I prefer Hillary Now!
A fair-minded article about the May 31st DNC meeting:
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SPLITTING MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA BABIES; UNFYING THE PARTY
PLUS: Wexler for Veep!
“I should say first off I don’t have a dog in the hunt. I support neither Obama nor Clinton in this nomination race and couldn’t tell you now whether I’d vote for either of them next November. I’ve stated long ago that both of those candidates have plenty of supporters, so I’ll be supporting the voters this year, since they don’t have nearly enough support.”
“With that said, this morning’s meeting in the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee (RBC) has been an interesting one to watch. All sides in the unfortunate matters of fighting over how to seat (or not) the delegations from Florida and Michigan at this year’s national convention have argued smartly for their various cases.”
Read More…
PART 1
http://www.bradblog.com/?cat=123
PART 2
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6032#more-6032
It also talks about this in the Bible…book of Revelations.
Comment: Not to belittle the poster atop or its creator, but you might be interested to know that it took me over 1 and 1/2 minutes to open this page and I have DSL speed. Not good!
Otherwise, great poster… great talent!!!
AN IMPORTANT PDF LINK FOR THE ACTION CENTER
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DNC
Democratic National Committee
CALL
For The 2008
Democratic National Convention
Issued by the Democratic Party of the United States
Governor Howard Dean, Chairman
As Adopted by the Democratic National Committee, February 2, 2007
Democratic Party Headquarters
430 South Capitol Street SE
Washington DC, 20003
Tel (202) 863-8000
Fax (202) 863-8174
http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/981e3333676783e79f_rcm6beihu.pdf
his money sources, security clearence, birth certificate, political record , real cvr, etc should be made public¡¡¡¡
#4 Battle for the Hill on 07.07.08 at 7:19 am, WROTE,
[[ This morning, Fox just talked about how crazily BO is flip-flopping. I don’t know how to link videos from Fox, maybe someone else can grab the discussion.]]
Whenever you are inside of any page, place your mouse cursor *inside* of the location box, and then do a cut/copy … come back here, place your mouse cursor inside of your comment box and then paste it.
Look at the top menu of your browser, UNDER EDIT
Piece of cake.
#28 exactly. Whether someone is a believer or not-this is strange.
A friend of mine enlightened me this weekend on something I hadn’t thought of.
Ever since Obamby announced his intentions to run-our economy, on all levels is taking a dump. The housing crisis, gas prices, credit card interest rate increases, ….. We could all blame Bush-but the truth is that the Democrats have been in power of Congress for a little more than the last BUSH term. Let me make this clear-I DID NOT VOTE FOR bush either time-and I do think he could have done more for all of us-but to allow Obambie to place blame on one man is ridiculous!
Perfect time for Obambie to step in power and finish off destroying/ weakening our economy. Then what? Loss of homes-desparation-can’t find work-loss of jobs-depression-no money-no food-start looting-…..
#815 Flowerchild2
Sorry for the delay in answering, I left for work after I said good morning. It’s a little confusing trying to figure out how many delegates Clinton has as many sites stopped updating after Obama was declared king, but we’re working on it and hope to have something very soon. I’ll keep you posted on this.
I heard that he released his birth certificate. Yha Right. The falsified one. I am so convinced that he was not born her in the U.S.A. that if someone actually took the time to ask questions to the right people and pay more money than Obambie did to keep it hush hush-that it would be revealed. Come on-this guy lied about ecverything and got a free pass on it all!
They want him in for some twisted reason. My belief on that besides he paid people off handsomely-is that there is a plan to obtain more power in other Countries and the countries that helped Mr. Obambie would get their just due-because he is all about EGO!
and this is very serious
AMERICA is not inmune to a disater, set up as a very well worked social movement, with enemies of the country´s support
@27 cosmeta
Anyone who says “Wexler for Veep” is not fair minded.
Wexler advocated for his state to get half delegates. he squandered what credit he earned in 2000 – being one of the Florida 14. I refuse to read anywhing praising that schmuck – I was in DC that day and read the transcript of what Wexler said.
At least with McCain, I know we could all sleep well at night. He’s no nonsense. This guy loves the UNITED SATES so much that I swear he would put on a uniform gaian if he had to and go front line. That’s what I admire about him.
Hillary, she would have put together the finest coalition of Generals to do all the work for her. And that would be great for me because she is so intelligent-and we need that to lead as well.
I’m temporarily sad because the 1st and best choice has been silenced for now.
But not forever!
Awesome collage header! The only thing missing is Obama in flip-flops.
#37 Agreed. He should only get 1/2 of anything for the remainder of his political career!
LOL #39
# 2 on the rocks
I’ve copied your info on taxes & plan to e-mail it to a bunch of my kool-aid drinking associates. With people who are very materialistic, this one’s a shocker.
#18 storytellers on 07.07.08 at 8:03 am, WROTE
[[ I am sure there are many more afrian-american politicians that honor their ethnicity ]]
I’ve been paying more and more attention to FoxNews commentator Juan Williams and also been watching Larry Elder on “Show Down” two African-Americans who appear to be anti-BHO.
Barack Obama has run an admirable campaign based on HOPE and CHANGE. A campaign that promises the American people a new level of transparency.
Sign the Petition
We the undersigned ask you to join us in demanding that Barack Obama show an official copy of his birth certificate to a reputable news outlet. It is a small request that should be welcomed by a politician looking to bring change to
http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
#10 MsBinMd –
It is posted on another site that 8 SD’d reversed TO Hillary. Anyone have any info? Need to send them thank you if it is in fact true.
What site was this posted on? Can you provide a link?
This was posted 1 month ago-I think an insider is warning us of more deceipt on Obambies part.
It’s why the whitey tape hasn’t been released yet and when it’s coming and oh yes -Guilliani is the one that gets credit for finding it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g5P9_e43sE
#45 Peg
We’re waiting for the source to this statement of the 8 SD’s. If you do come across it, can you paste it here please.
Re: Obama talking points memo: Why Obama dropped pledge to “aggresively” seek public finance deal with McCain.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/07/obamas_talking_points_memo_on.html#more
Lynn Sweet: 7-6-08: WASHINGTON—-”I’ve obtained a copy of the talking points memo the Obama campaign team is distributing to supporters to explain why presumptive Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) did not honor his pledge to to meet with Sen. John McCain (R-Az.) to see if they could make a deal for both of them to use public money to bankroll their general election campaigns….”
hAPPY TO SIGN #44 jOHN. Thank You. Let’s see truth. check the video I posted about why the whitey tape didn’t come out yet. I wish they would release sooner than later because the DEMS corrupt leaders are already twisting the truth-as Michelle Obambie sits next to freaky Farrakan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFEzjZuCdkc
new video from dncreform.com
Obambie has no honour-his words mean sqwat!
That was inspiring Puma Allie Thank You.
The other day someone posted a list of our rights and I wondered why all of us who feel cheated cannot sue the Cemocratic Party? Or can we?
Meant Democtratic.
Re: Congrats, our strategy is working.
http://thepage.time.com/
Some Top Clinton Supporters Still Resisting Obama
WSJ Page One piece details how at least 300 “Hillraisers” are mobilizing with PACs, Web sites to push Obama on issues or ask him to give Clinton a big role in his administration.
Adds the McCain camp is trying to capitalize on disaffected Clinton supporters, roughly two dozen big Clinton backers are looking to meet soon with McCain adviser Fiorina.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121539354782631403.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_topbox
Obama Faces Resistance From Top Supporters of Clinton
By John R. Emshwiller and Christopher Cooper
“Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, faces dissent from dozens of top fund-raisers and other supporters of former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who are angry over how she was treated during their bruising primary battle and are hesitating to back Sen. Obama.
Some leading Clinton supporters are starting new Web sites or political action committees aimed at prodding Sen. Obama on issues or pressuring him to give Sen. Clinton a big role in the general-election campaign. People familiar with the matter say the effort involves dozens of the roughly 300 Clinton “Hillraisers,” individuals who raised at least $100,000 …”
#37 Notyoursweetie on 07.07.08 at 8:37 am, WROTE,
[[ @27 cosmeta
Anyone who says “Wexler for Veep” is not fair minded.]]
Well—I read the entire 2 part article and for someone not supporting either Clinton or BHO I thought his perspective an interesting read. Especially where he said, the superdelegates are suppose to vote their conscience BUT the DNC meeting placed more emphasis on Unity. His point was, if that’s the case, then the DNC rules ought to have reflected that.
[[ Wexler advocated for his state to get half delegates. he squandered what credit he earned in 2000 - being one of the Florida 14. I refuse to read anywhing praising that schmuck - I was in DC that day and read the transcript of what Wexler said. ]]
Yeah… I know what he said at the meeting… and to tell you the truth, I think PUMA should target him as being the *main* culprit for this mess—AGREED!
#45 – I am looking. I was all over this AM. Going to look now. Should just copy things when I see it. GRRR
Good Morning Pumas!!
I’m only going to be on for a few minutes but wanted to see what the daily action was. The poster is geat Fred. I live in a community where most people are retired or close to retirement. I think that the information in post #2 would work the best around here.
Murphy.
Could someone take the information in post #2 and turn it into a flyer? If you could and put it in the action center I will print copies and distribute in my area.
Found it. It was referenced from the hcsfjm.com site to hireheels blog from 7/6, #56.
Remember I was questioning it in my blog # 10, not stating a “fact”. Just wondering where we could go to research validity and if so send thanks.
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(copied & pasted from hireheels)
“SistaChristianLouboutin said,
on July 6th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Evening hireheels crew… ooohhh… i just heard a very tantalizing tidbit from one our peeps who’s way in the know… seems like shifty has given the shaft to way too many promises and the super d’s are starting to question his viability or electability for that matter… Eight have declared their independence from the Kool-aid over this past weekend and have gone our gal’s way!!! Pass it”
YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Oh Yes!
Now that is change I can believe In!~
Thank you for some good news today!!!!!!!!
An interesting Blog
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May 31, 2008
The DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee — the Clash in the Capital
Posted May 31st, 2008 at 10:00 am
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“Today’s the day. The Clash in the Capital. The Dispute in DC. The Scuffle in the Swamp. The Fracas at … well, you get the idea.
There’s a very good chance that today’s meeting of the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee will be anti-climactic, but as political theater goes, this is reasonably interesting stuff.
When Democratic Party leaders voted on Aug. 25, 2007, to sanction Florida Democrats for moving up the date of their presidential primary, no one anticipated that the decision would lead to a tense showdown that will help decide the outcome of the nomination battle between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Today, the 30 members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee will hear challenges to that decision and a later ruling, which together barred delegations from Florida and Michigan from the national convention in Denver because those states violated the party’s rules governing the nomination process.”
Read more…
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15717.html
#38 1voice2stopcorruption on 07.07.08 at 8:40 am, WROTE,
[[ At least with McCain, I know we could all sleep well at night. ]]
I’m with you… at least John McCain is a TRUE patriot and one I can trust. I may not agree with him on all counts, but he will protect our nation. And THAT is something I can belive in.
My 1st Choice was between Guiliana and Clinton.
My 2nd Choice Clinton and McCain
So when Guilani dropped out, I started donating to the Clinton campaign.
he dropped pledge @ MCCAIN on public finance deal, I think he probably wants to do an unfair campaign,and probably already has promised funds from unknown supporters, heavens knows to do what
#58 MSBINMD,
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO?
THIS IS AWSOME!
#58 Do we know the names of the eight SD’s that are switching. Is there any media story on this. I would like to pass this info on but without any proof then it’s just I heard it on the blog and goes nowhere.
I had to renew my passport, and I was talking to a person at the consulate that is very well polically related, and was telling her how sad I was with all this business @ the demo. party.
she said , well until the convention nothing is official, things could change
Is it correct to say that Obama has not stopped Hillary’s name from being put up for nomination at the convention?
when HILLARY got off the race, I read somewhere, (I do not recall where), that delegates & superdeleates could switch before denver or in denver
# 66
not because he does not want, but maybe because he can not¡¡¡¡
MIMI #63
I go it from a link to the blog on hireheels website.
I am excited as well, but we have NOT yet verified.
I wish I knew where to go to do so.
#69 This could be some great news so we need some good documented proof of this but I can’t find anything yet. If this is true then we need to get at least one of those 8 SD’s out there in the media speaking up why they are switching. This could be the start of something major and maybe we can get those 175 others to switch.
#64 VADARYL
Precisely, you are so right. That is why I am asking help in verifying.
Since it was not on news (or I may have missed it), I don’t know how to verify.
ANYONE who can give us direction for verification will be greatly appreciated.
One thing I am going to do right now is go over to hireheels blog and try to contact this person and see where she or he acquired this info and try to get some details.
HANG TIGHT ALL BEFORE WE GET TOO EXCITED. I want it to be true as well but heaven knows we have dealt with disappointment before.
hi all morning. What great news. How bout we send it to someone that can and will verify like Hannity? Do you think. He seems the one most willing to check things out.
#52 1voice2stopcorruption on 07.07.08 at 9:06 am, WROTE,
[[ The other day someone posted a list of our rights and I wondered why all of us who feel cheated cannot sue the Cemocratic Party? Or can we?]]
To my knowledge at least 3 Federal lawsuits have been filed for the state of Florida, and each time the courts have turned it down. I will assume, (but do not know) that for any class action, one would have to live in Florida or Michigan for it to have any effect; and to my knowledge a class action has not been undertaken.
Here is a link for the Greller lawsuit:
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2008/05/geller_files_federal_lawsuit_i.html
I believe it is true nothing is in stone till convention and his own followers are getting tired of his flip flops. Maybe we need to push that every where we can. He is another Bush term with religous agenda and wiretapping etc>
#2 on the rocks:
thanks for posting I had seen that write -up in the Florida St Pete Times regarding the tax differences between the two candidates.
1voicetostopcorruption—so many people I speak with believe that the Senator is the antiChrist or close to it based upon his sudden unknown appearance and the fact that so many people just went under his spell.
#71 That’s a good idea, let us know what you find out. Hannity is a good idea, but I don’t know if he is still on vacation or not.
If the Rules an Bylaws committee is meeting today, maybe they need to hear from us.
Contact Information for DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee Members (met
5/31/08 to decide Florida and Michigan delegates)
Donna Brazile, (202) 628-8081, donna@brazileassociates.com
Mark Brewer, (517) 371-5410, mbrewer@mi-democrats.com
Martha Fuller Clark, (603) 271-6933, martha.fullerclark@leg.state.nh.us
Ralph Dawson, (212) 318-3337, rcdawson@fulbright.com
Donald and Carol Fowler, (803) 799-7550, don@fowlercommunications.com,
carol@fowlercommunications.com
Yvonne Gates, (702) 455-0855, YRG@co.clark.nv.us
Alice Germond, (202) 863-7183, germonda@dnc.org
Jaime A. Gonzalez, Jr., (956) 664-0100, 855748@gmail.com
Janice Griffin, (703) 248-1990, griffinassoc1@aol.com
Alexis Herman, (202) 833-8800, rramirez@alexisherman.com
Alice Huffman, (916) 498-1890, alicehuffman@sbcglobal.net
Thomas Hynes, (312) 845-3272, thynes@chapman.com
Ben Johnson, (202) 973-5899, ben.johnson@porternovelli.com
Elaine Kamarck, (617) 495-9002, elaine_kamarck@harvard.edu
Allan Katz, (850) 425-1605, allan.katz@akerman.com
Eric Kleinfeld, (202) 293 1177, Eric@rpum.com
David McDonald, (206) 370-7957, david.mcdonald@klgates.com
Mona Pasquil, (916) 567-2945, monapasquil@hotmail.com
Mame Reiley, (703) 370-2891, mame@thereileygroup.com
James Roosevelt, (617) 972-9564, james_roosevelt@tufts-health.com Garry
Shay, (818) 502-7503, gss1@aol.com
Elizabeth Smith, (202) 879-4436, lsmith@aft.org
Michael Steed, (202) 595-2960, rmadison@paladincagroup.com Sharon
Stroschein, (605) 226-3440, stroschein@nrctv.com
Sarah Swisher, (319) 530-8364, seiusarah@msn.com
Edwards Ward, (919) 733-2520, eward@ncdot.state.nc.us
Jerome Wiley Segovia, (202) 360-3801, jerome@puente-latino.com.
OMG – there were some really late Night Owls last night even after I went to bed….
TrishfromCanada – I think it was you that mentioned if the DNC does not come around after the convention then we should do a cross in rememberance – sorry for not quoting properly – but I have another idea -
I think we should write a BOOK – we have sentiments here, we have the ingredients – I have written two books – one about the Vietnam War and the other a satire about a Bed and Breakfast – even a TV sitcom had some of the situations about the bed and breakfast – then – once this book got out to the public and everyone saw what had happened maybe Then the DNC would change its ways – in order to write a good book – you have to know your subject matter well and I think we all know this one well enough. Now you see Trish if I have written a book that far back about Vietnam – I am not in my 30′s. LOL
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I think Hillary figured this cause remember her saying so many times Delegates can change there minds at any time?
I have a question for anyone. If you live in upstate N.Y. and want to go to Denver, would you have to get to New York City to catch the Bus to Denver?
Thanks
This is must watch !!!
http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=859qeM53M93X6k41HNBV
Regarding the switching of 8 superdelegates – I know that there are several that have already spoken up in Tennessee – I believe – that have publicly said that they will not support BO – and have remained uncomitted until the convention – I believe one was named Lincoln Davis – I could research if it matters to anyone.
GO PUMAS! GET THAT INFO – I AM AT WORK, CAN’T BLOG MUCH BUT WILL CHECK IN FROM TIME TO TIME TO KEEP UPDATED!
FLIP FLOPPER IS GOING DOWN!
RISE PUMAS, RISE
it is true that the supers can change their mind right up until the last minute in denver. that’s why it was so arrogant of him to proclaim himself the nominee. the fact is that neither candidate has enough pledged delegates and anything can still happen.
as for lawsuits: it would appear that all of the suits will be denied. the DNC is not actually a public entity, it’s a private business. therefore, there are no government checks and balances for the primary. disenfranchisment only comes into play in the general election.
#78 LOL good idea!! experience we can believe here in our own back yard. Hope your keeping notes. to bad we couldnt get it out sooner.
scrubes 56
where are you in upstate?
#82 The more proof we can get the better it will be. If one speaks up, maybe many will follow. This could keep Obama from trying to not allow Hillary’s name to come up for nomination at the convention
#66 vadaryl on 07.07.08 at 9:38 am, WROTE,
[[ Is it correct to say that Obama has not stopped Hillary’s name from being put up for nomination at the convention? ]]
If the delegates at the Convention are denied their roll call vote for Hillary, it will be the biggest blunder yet and would amount to a cout de ta. The lingering Hillary supporters who are waiting to see if she is chosen for the VP spot would then became as infuriated or even moreso than we and that would put *more* votes in McCain’s corner and PUMA’s.
The man would have to be stupid or on drugs to do that!
I opt for the latter.
#82 Goalacard -
I think it matters to alot of us.
VADARYL & MIMI
I just left the following question to the source regarding rumored 8 SD switch on the hireheels blog.
__________________________________________
“pumaannie said,
on July 7th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Sista -
I just carried your news regarding 8 SD switch over to the PUMAPAC blog where I am a regular member and blogger. Of course the cheers can be heard around the world from us.
We are, however, trying to be cautious to not become overly excited before we can be sure that there is something to celebrate.
Can you PLEASE help me with way to verify?
You can’t imagine how much we want this to be true.
A BIG PUMA thank you.”
__________________________________________
I post as pumaannie on other sites! I will post reply if I receive.
#81 et al- Great video. This news story was a little confusing though–why did that news host say she started it–it being PUMA? Who is the unknown candidate? Where did they get those great bumper stickers? Do we have access to those? Are those bus signs for real? WOW, this is really taking off thanks to all of you who have worked so hard. I don’t have much time, but I read every day and participate in the actions. Love the new poster. PumaAllie great website and welcome to Big Ticer!
Sorry if I am rambling –trying to keep up with everything–it is all moving so fast. Thanks to Murphy, Maryland Puma, PA 4 Hill and all of the other great contributors to this site and to this movement. I will do what I can. Have a great day.
#89 Great let us know what they say. This could be a great start to the week if true. If not then we need to put an end to it real fast.
PRPLVETTE – Not only in the Bible – Revelations but also Nostradumus Quatrains -
TRISHFROMCANADA – I am communicating almost now on a daily basis with 15 superdelegates – I will ask each of them if they know anything about the 8 switches this weekend – surely one of them would know.
Drac
#67 storytellers on 07.07.08 at 9:39 am, WROTE,
[[ when HILLARY got off the race, I read somewhere, (I do not recall where), that delegates & superdeleates could switch before denver or in denver ]]
The delegates, both pledged and superdelegates can switch back and forth a 100 times over and it is still inside the rules of the party.
So nothing is set in stone until the last gavel fall at the August 25-28th Convention.
From my reading, this is the scheduling based upon prior Conventions.
day1 — Credential committee meeting
day2 — Roll call vote for president
day3 — Roll call vote for vice president
day4 — Acceptence speech by the nominee
Greenfun,
Thanks for the contact info–is there a specific letter we are sending?
He wants the Nominee speech to be on MLK’s speech date.He is Joshua you know leading the slaves into promised land and putting them over the slave masters of 40 yrs. ago. Scary right? Thats his big Relifion agenda. I ask of other blogs who will have this great place in his WH Wright or Farrakhan. They ignore the question.
HOW STUFF WORKS
http://people.howstuffworks.com/political-convention.htm
http://people.howstuffworks.com/superdelegate.htm
Note: the above are 3 and 5 part links… so make sure you click on the NEXT arrow at the bottom of each article to follow along.
Never hurts to know a little bit about history, and how this man BHO is changing both it and our valued traditions. And as such, is is no friend of mine and no patriot.
- changing the DNC office
- changing DNC rules
All to suit him and not the party.
The man is a Chicago mobster!
#78 Goalucard4Hill
I take it then you’re volunteering to wrtie the book. Very generous offer
Also, can you help me with something on the spreadsheet. Can you look at Hillary’s endorsers and let me know which are SuperDelegates and which are not so super?
Prior post – information on Lincoln Davis:
Lincoln Davis (born September 13, 1943 in Pall Mall, Tennessee) is a U.S. Representative from Tennessee, currently representing the state’s 4th congressional district (map). He is a Democrat. He is a possible candidate for Governor of Tennessee in 2010.[1]
Davis, a 1966 Tennessee Technological University agriculture graduate who was raised in rural Fentress County, has been serving Tennesseans since being elected as mayor of Byrdstown in 1978. Davis served two terms in the Tennessee House of Representatives, 1980–1984, and was later elected to two terms in the Tennessee State Senate, 1996–2002, resigning from that body midway through his second term when he was elected to represent the state’s Fourth Congressional District in November 2002, narrowly defeating Tullahoma Alderman Janice Bowling. He was handily reelected in a 2004 rematch against Bowling.
Davis has been recognized as a leader in the fight to allocate more federal money toward the cleanup of Tennessee’s abandoned coal mines, particularly in the Cumberland Plateau region, which lies partly in his district. He also recently joined Pete Sessions of Texas to cosponsor homeland security legislation to crack down on immigrants who overstay their visas.
In the state legislature, Davis supported state employee and teacher pay raises, long-term care for senior citizens, character education in schools and new domestic violence legislation. Davis initiated and fought for a bill requiring counseling and a 12-hour holding period for domestic violence offenders. While a State Senator, Davis also voted to allow non-documented non-citizen aliens to receive Tennessee drivers’ licenses, which was highly criticized and has been since considered for repeal.
Davis holds membership in the House Committee on Science, the House Committee on Agriculture and the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. He is a member of several caucuses, including the Congressional Caucus to Control Methamphetamine the Congressional Rural Caucus and the Blue Dog Coalition, which is made up of fiscally conservative Democrats.
Davis is considered a conservative Democrat by national Democratic standards but by Tennessee standards he is considered a moderate. In 2004, he was endorsed by right-to-life groups, the National Rifle Association, and the Tennessee Conservative Union, groups all more frequently associated with Republicans. He has also stated his opposition to gay marriage.
Recently, Davis has been under fire for slanderous comments made by a surrogate to the Nashville City Paper on June 13, 2008 [2] regarding Senator Barack Obama’s Presidential campaign. He has stated that he will not make an endorsement of the candidate in advance of the DNC’s convention in August 2008, leaving many to speculate on reasons why, ranging from the recent controversial remarks made on his behalf to suspicions political gaming or racist undertones.
Davis, who now lives in the rural Fentress County village of Pall Mall, also owns a construction business, Diversified Construction Co., which builds homes, apartments and offices. Davis and his wife Lynda, an elementary school teacher, have three daughters, Larissa, Lynn and Libby, and five grandchildren, Ashton, Alexia, Andrew, Austin and Adam.
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This delegate thing could be true cause I know his own supporters are withholding support. Thats why he is hitting Hillarys so hard now. In May McCain and RNC doubled his money. Take a look at DNC they are getting nodda.
#2 ontherocks
RE: Taxes
Good Morning PUMAs!
I’m at work but just checked in for the action center. Noticed the posting #2 above. Is there a source for the information. I think I could really turn some heads with that. I’ll check back later. Have a good day.
#97 – be happy to check out the spreadsheet Trish – will advise by email directly to you
and I am out of town this week so not able to finish the book
Unbelieveable. He flip flops so much he looks like a fish out of water.
This note is for the leadership here. Several people have been asking me how to get a copy of the Declaration in poster form from the pictures in my action photo thread. Is there anyway I can e-mail it to someone here and it can be uploaded to the document center? It’s getting tedious e-mailing this out to a bunch of people one at a time, and I can’t host Word files on my site. Can I get some help, please? If so, e-mail me at peacocksandlilies AT gmail DOT com. Thanks.
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/declaration-photo-thread/
ALso, how do I get 100 of the flyers to post?
#93 Cosmeta -
and it may not happen on the first roll call vote – it may be several before the FINAL number is hit – gives lots of room for people to do politics to sway others over – not quite as bad as a caucus – but similar -
This Super flip could be the story of the day if it’s true. It’s a slow news day so the media would love to pick up on it. Anybody find anything out yet?
Obama now wants to use the 75,000 seat Denver’s INVESCO Field at Mile High on August 28 for his acceptance speech. Maybe we can change that to Hillary’s speech.
#37 Notyoursweetie on 07.07.08 at 8:37 am, WROTE,
[[ @27 cosmeta
Anyone who says “Wexler for Veep” is not fair minded. ]]
You are certainly entitled to your opinion; but I try to read all sides of a story before I rush to judgement. To only read Pro-Hillary sites or arguments would be setting ourselves up to becoming just like BHO-robots; and that I will not do. Besides, how does one arm themselves with the right set of argumental tools if one does not have both sides of the story.
In all fairness to your viewpoint, I personally, will not…cannot discount or discredit anyone just for having a view contray to my own.
Look—I did not post that link for you to agree with the author… I posted it because I thought it interesting. Take it or leave it. The choice is yours.
On the rocks #2
This is what has so many worried about econ. bottoming out. If he gets nod and wins between Nov and Jan will be panic. Houses will sell for nothing but will sell to get out from under his tax and stocks will be dumped big time. I think some have already so we need to get Hillary in Big time.or McCain.
If my last post was a repeat… my apologies please.
When I clicked on a link I was locked out of this blog and had to reopen a new page… losing the place I was reading from. Hence, my post may have been a repeat response.
Alos, I’m sorry I even have to ask, but can I please get added to the blogroll now? Is my effort enough yet?
Good morning!!!
Just wanted to say I am SOOO ready to get some flyers out. I am already emailing info about us and about other information that you all contribute to our blog, minus names, of course, to everyone on my email lists and several other orginizations I a a member of.
I do believe we have lit a fire across this nation.
I nominate Hillary Rodham Clinton to be our next POTUS.
#106 Vadayrl – I have sent out emails to the superdelegates that I have been in contact with asking for their confirmation regarding the 8 that may or may not have switched as I told them if anyone would know it would be them – will let you know just as soon as I get an answer – also asked for the switcheroos names.
#111 I second that Mountainsong – now Trish I am off to your spreadsheet – I hope that I can read it – it looked very tiny and I have old eyes – back to you later.
Drac
I just went to zogby to register to take polls… I think one way of being heard is to make sure that our voices are represented in election polls – I know when I see Obama leading that my voice isn’t represented!
http://www.zogby.com/
Just an idea
#104 Goalucard4Hill on 07.07.08 at 10:19 am, WROTE,
[[ #93 Cosmeta -
and it may not happen on the first roll call vote - it may be several before the FINAL number is hit - gives lots of room for people to do politics to sway others over - not quite as bad as a caucus - but similar - ]]
The few Conventions I have ever watched on tv, seemed like one giant caucus, except a lot more orderly. But yes, there are sometimes many roll call votes before that magic majority is reached… and plenty of arm twisting, I do suppose.
They say the days of back room politics is over… but I say it has been replaced with 1 hour lunch breaks that end up lasting 2 1/2 hours to 3 hours over coctails and wine.
What I am at least hoping for is that the Convention itself be open and honest and yes, TELEVISED for all to partake. Not a shame like May 31st. But with BHO at the helm it is hard to envision a fair and open meeting.
VADRYL – All other interested PUMAs -
Here is the response I received regarding my question to 8 SD’s switch verification to blogger on hireheels
I say we remain cautious in our decision.
I am off to do some much needed work for a few hours but will keep checking.
___________________________________________
QUOTE “SistaChristianLouboutin said,
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:21 am
puma—a: the source that told me is very much in the know, but even with those 8 we have a long ways to go!! as I stated previously, convention ballots are in secret, which is why delegates are “pledged.” all i can say is i trust this person to give us true information. they asked that we get the word out, not so much to celebrate– although it is joyful news, but it is even more important that super d’s know that others are feeling comfortable switching their allegiance due to recent policy gaffes by Senator Obama. so it’s up to us to virally put the news out there. even if you only feel comfortable saying, “i just heard a fab rumor!! super d’s are switching— 8 did this weekend…”
Did You see where now Kadaphi(sorry spelling) now endorses his brother Muslim Obama for pres. and that he can heal the world. Words like Farrakhan said. I have a problem,I believe this and He uses the fear factor to combat it or silly season so well I almost feel bad saying it. This is the plan I think and why he is where he is. Any one else feel this way?
#110 annabelle
send an email to murphy at pumapac.org
just in case she doesn’t see your post
Good Morning,
Does anyone know how many superdelegates has to defect to make a difference here. Also is it certain she still has her delegates. Some may have gone to Obama’s side thinking or was assured she would be the VP and him not keeping his word.
Della
Unless something gigantic happens, I truly believe that the fear SD’s have of not voting for BO is worse than the fear of what will happen if he is the nominee. IMHO
Oh, how about a letter writing campaign to all the trade and labor unions and other organizations who have endorsed Owanna?
BO FACES RESISTANCE FROM TOP HILLRAISERS
Today’s Washington Post has an interesting article on BO facing resistance from the Top Hillraisers. Some of these Hillraisers may already be PUMAs but maybe we can contact them or make them aware of us if they’re not already. Here is an excerpt:
Obama Faces Resistance From Top Supporters of Clinton
By John R. Emshwiller and Christopher Cooper
Word Count: 1,572
Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, faces dissent from dozens of top fund-raisers and other supporters of former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who are angry over how she was treated during their bruising primary battle and are hesitating to back Sen. Obama.
Some leading Clinton supporters are starting new Web sites or political action committees aimed at prodding Sen. Obama on issues or pressuring him to give Sen. Clinton a big role in the general-election campaign. People familiar with the matter say the effort involves dozens of the roughly 300 Clinton “Hillraisers,” individuals who raised at least $100,000 …
The above is from the Wall Street Journal and you need to subscribe to read the entire article but I thought this excerpt was interesting. Here’s the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121539354782631403.html?mod
#102 barbe on 07.07.08 at 10:16 am,WROTE,
[[ Unbelieveable. He flip flops so much he looks like a fish out of water. ]]
Well, can you believe this:
Just ask yourself/yourselves: How did BHO get this far? By his experience or his record?—No, by his soft-sell charismatic charm. He got here on his inspirational speeches; and not by any debates, for example.
Ask yourself, why wont he do townhall meetings with McCain? Ans: Same reason he did not like them when he ran against Hillary… cause he’s an empty suit.
So now I ask you to consider this: In moving more toward the center (something we call flip-flopping) he is gearing himself or aligning himself to look very much like John McCain; so THAT, come the General Election, he is hoping that people will be making a choice between his *personality* or McCain’s.
What he is not counting on is this: In a General Election, it’s not likability that will count, but CHARACTER. And on that score, once the republicans and the 527′s start bringing out the Trinity-Wright; Ayers; Reskco stuff he will be as a walking-talking dead man (pardon my expression). He will be toast… or is that a racial comment to BHO supporters too. LOL
#117 PumaAllie, thanks for the tip. I will do that. I Have sent her an e-mail before and it got ignored. I can’t seem to get the leadership interested in what I’m doing at all, which I think is important, more important than a smear poster with no rational complaints (however well done), which I think would be more effective after petitioning the Convention, and if our effort there fails. I’m about to give up and go back to regular political blogging. But I’ll try this last thing.
ANNABELLE – email to: flyers@pumapac.org for submission of your address for 100 flyers.
email to: murphy@pumapac.org regarding blog roll.
YES you and all your efforts are appreciated!
This time I am really going, I think!!
#26 1voice2stop
TOTALLY AGREE
TREEPUMA
#115 I am getting this kind of response, Oh you heard it on a blog, forget it, need proof. With this kind of story to get people to believe it we do need names, stories out on CNN, FOX, NYTIMES etc. It’s not going to fly it’s to big of a story.
#122 annabelle ,
Hello. I don’t think Murphy is ignoring anyone but I think she is getting so many emails that she is finding it hard to answer all of them. I too have not gotten answers or responses on some of my emails. We all appreciate what you do. Maybe we need to suggest that someone volunteers to assist in answering emails for Murphy. Someone that thinks like her and she would be compfortable in assigning this task.
FLIP FLOPPER
Here are a couple of great articles on BO’s flip flopping:
http://lpwillham.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/01/1629399-obamaniacs-youve-been-had-obama-is-now-the-faith-based-president
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/a_man_of_seasonal_principles.html
VADRYL – Im with you. I need proof.
Good Morning TREE
#122 annabelle
I too have emailed before without getting a reply but I can only imagine that she does recieve a lot of emails and missed mine.
I agree with what you say about getting the leadership on board, but don’t give up on that, I know that they are busy and most hold down regular jobs too.
While I remember to ask, what is Will Bower’s email by the way? I tried what I thought it was earlier and it bounced back.
msnbc now Obama loseing base
if there’s 8 SD’s then someone has to have name. That’s a good number to start with.
This ad is sponsored by the McCain campaign and has despicable Dick Morris in it but it’s a good video:
“Dignity” TV Ad, (BO) Caught In A Lie Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIkmTVit8vw
What MSNBC reporting some bad news on BHO! No way!
his airplane made unexpected landing?? Any one in know? It will be on later. Yes surprised me msnbc is getting nervous I think
This makes some sense:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25560815/
I refuse to believe that most of demo. party politicians support the golden boy, I know quite a few and they are not.
something else
maybe the FBI, should make clear to Americans who is the golden boy
#134 who’s plane Obama’s? Where was he going?
goalucard-you may already know this but just in case -you can zoom into the excel sheet -magnify it to 150% or 200%-you can’t see the whole sheet at once that way but if you scroll from left to right you can read one or two lines at a time mpk-rodham
Great article about where BO’s money comes from.
Obama’s cash, spin piling up
Dennis Byrne
July 7, 2008
“the Obama campaign is shading the truth when it implies that all the money comes from small contributions of $5, $10 or $20. The Center estimated that 55 percent of the hundreds of millions raised has come from big donors—those giving more than $200.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0707byrnejul07,0,2090442.story
unexpected landing???”
PUBLICITY
#103 annabelle on 07.07.08 at 10:19 am, WROTE,
[[Is there anyway I can e-mail it to someone here and it can be uploaded to the document center?]]
The other day, DragonFly asked me to send him suggestions… So I just emailed him/her your request asking him/her to foward it to others.
[[ It’s getting tedious e-mailing this out to a bunch of people one at a time, ]]
May I suggest, you email it to yourself FIRST. Save that email in your inbox; and then just use the FORWARD button thereafter.
[[and I can’t host Word files on my site. ]]
That’s because you dont have a website… you are using WordPress’s website and are only occupying one if its member directories.
You need your own url, like,
annabelle.com
Then you could have,
annabelle.com/wp
[[ ALso, how do I get 100 of the flyers to post? ]]
If you can upload it as a graphic, anyone can then download it merely by using the SAVE button on their browser.
In your wordpress page, use the following code, only use left and right carrots on your keyboard instead of brackets.
To display your image, use this code,
[img src="images/nameoffile.jpg" width="?" height="?" border="0" alt="Place Your Description Here (optional)"]
Note: You would just have to know the location of your image directory.
Trish – you have mail – regarding superdelegates – listing
Many progressives for Obama have seen the light and Count Us Out would like to take this time to invite you to join us.
Come on! Let’s UNITE and get this country back on the right track.
To all of our PUMA Brothers and Sisters, Count Us Out asks you to show the former Obama supporters some PUMA LOVE!
To the former Obama supporters, many of whom have worked side by side with us for many years, we want you to know that we were never against you. We opposed Obama and we simply did not join you in your support of him. Let’s let bygones be bygones. We’ve got room for you under the PUMA tent!
We have been friends and allies for a long time and we look forward, once again, to joining our efforts with yours as we work toward our common goals.
Again, we say WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME to the many Obama supporters who now know that Obama wasn’t all he was cracked up to be. By now, everyone who cares about “the issues” has seen Obama unravel in front of their eyes. He has exposed himself as an unprincipled, empty suit.
It’s NOT too late to send Obama’s ass back to the US Senate and that is exactly what we intend to do.
As they say, “Let’s really get this party started!”
Good Morning Pumas! Great blog radio last evening.
Just got an e-mail from Will Bower regarding the delegates and also meeting up with other like minded people in our respective states and mailed me Fl’s e-mail address which I’ll post later.
Regarding the delegates, just like when we sent flowers, we need a group (and someone may have already posted this) from each state to call, fax, write or e-mail the delegates in their state. This is more effective as they ususally don’t correspond with anyone unless it’s one of their constituents. So if anyone has that info, please post it.
Sorry, but I’m going to be gone most of the say and will be back later. Will check in with you when I return. Have a great day!
PS Also, I just heard on FOX that it has been confirmed that BO will give his concession speech in Chicago. Isn’t this a problem for Denver? Does this mean some people would be in Denver and the other in Chigago?
He probably went to Iraq or Jeruselum, He said he would not tell the media when he was going exactly. He probably somewhere in the middle east.
#138 Thanks MPK Rodham Puma
ontherocks #2
thank you for that information.
#137
yes Obamas he was going to NC I think it had mechinacal diff. No prob though.It landed in St. Lewis
#144 ladyhawkke, what do you mean he will give his concession in chicago?
yes that got my attention:)
lolz
I can’t wait for the day he gives his concession!!!
#115 MSBindMD…
[[but it is even more important that super d’s know that others are feeling comfortable switching their allegiance due to recent policy gaffes by Senator Obama. so it’s up to us to virally put the news out there. ]]
Did I hear you say, “virally” ….
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LOL, I was in such a rush, I meant acceptance speech! Wish it was his concession speech. Sorry. Anyway, I am leaving now.
He is supposed to give econ. speech in NC today .
Hillmania I love that ad hope it is playing in a lot of states.Need to get it on some news stations.
#153 ladyhawkke,
Darn it. You really had my hopes up. LOL
#44 ladyhawkke,
consession from what? I don’t get it…
#144 What this about Chicago and Denver. I just read he was going to speak at the 75,000 seat stadium.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
#116 jane-pa on 07.07.08 at 10:36 am, WROTE,
[[I have a problem,I believe this and He uses the fear factor to combat it or silly season so well I almost feel bad saying it. This is the plan I think and why he is where he is. Any one else feel this way?]]
I think that is taking it a bit overboard and is based upon fear not reason. And although I do not like BHO, I don’t think he will sell America out to radical groups or rogue nations. Yet I do believe that his focus will shift from the middle east to the African nations, he being a pro-Trinity, pro-Sharpton loyalist with a Black Libertarian Theology leanings. He and his wife!
IOW, THEY ARE RACISTS!
Here’s some cash spin:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0707byrnejul07,0,2090442.story
What concession speech?
Is it possible to get a poster made with info from post#2??? I would be happy to distribute all over my area in Virginia. Thanks.
Not to leave you guys with a teaser – but three of my superdelegates have come back and said that they have heard the same thing about the 8 switching over – they do not have names either – but will find out and let me know – also more news sent to me about the nomination speech will be held at Mile High Stadium NOT in Chicago – this is directly from the DNC – not the media.
Have appointments for the next three hours – hopefully when I return will have more news that will either make this rumor right or wrong.
Behave Pumas – I know you will.
Just to let you know, I have printed out some of the business cards, and when I go to a store I place in conspicuous places. It’s a great way to get the word out.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/07/07/abortion/
More flip-flops on abortion by Obama. One of his close buddies is apparently calling for a reduction of abortions.
I’ll tell you how you do it: put in a Clinton.
“52,000 more abortions were performed under Bush than under Clinton, reversing a ten-year trend that had resulted in a 17.4% decline in abortions.”
I think I have posted enough for now…
Cya later
#2 ontherocks
That’s pretty damning about Obama and his tax increases, many of which will hit the middle class. I like to quote sources when I pass on info like that. Where did you get those figures? Thanks.
cosmeta thank you for response.
He really fooled SOME of the people, didn’t he.
he hides and lies about so much makes you really wonder. He and his wife have said they know how to do politics being from Chicago I believe them and its not good.
Absolutely! Remember, they are both attorneys. Sorry, but attorneys are trained liers (I’ve work for some).
#160 antifish,
She meant acceptance. See post#153. I was hopeful too. Did you see where Obama is going to give his acceptance speech in a larger stadium? I would love it if PUMAS could fill the seats with protest signs if he makes it that far. LOL
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#2 on the rocks
Thanks for that break down. Capital gains tax also affects Americans’ retirement funds and others…not just property. I think most people want the benefits of what BO is proposing but have no clue as to how and where the US will pay for them. Keep in mind, less than 5% of the US population make over $250K…which is where the supposed tax revenue will come from to pay for these programs. I think Universal Healthcare is a must for all Americans, no doubt. All this other stuff like faith-base program ($500 million!) is frivolous when the US have so many shortages in state funded programs …uh, like schools.
Good morning Pumas
I just sent my email to get the 100 flyers. Our county in IN. did a smack down on Obama in the primaries.
We had the highest percentage vote for Hillary than any other county.
YEAH!
Please read this blog for Heidi Li Feldman – very informative and likely spot on with her speculation about what is going on behind the scenes.
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/informed-speculation-what-clinton-and.html
I believe HILLARY will give the acceptance speech and no name will give a concession speech ! Keep on trucking.
#175 Something is happening out there, just what is it?
#176 mijabsnji,
That is my hopes too and if that happens there won’t be a stadium big enough to hold all of HER supporters.
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#143..John, Thank you for this post. I think the party is only really starting. We need to welcome all and stay in action.
On BO and the stadium….sigh….There are so much to read into this besides arrogance. He is looking to be POTUS. He can reach so many more without the costs (security, police, etc.) . What is he thinking ? This is not a sporting event or even a visit by the Pope. This is about the future of this country. Why put on this show ? I just don’t understand.
Never thought I would vote republican….
I’ve been thinking about this quite a lot. If we don’t vote for McCain, I’m afraid Oliar will win. I know there are many who say they will write in Hillary’s name or stay home but
I don’t think that will help defeat BO.
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#181 Vonray
hold on
you might not have to
At the superbowl the crowd is about equal in who they are rooting for so this could be the same thing. I am not so sure it’s a good idea for him to hold it there. You don’t want an empty place, so you got to open the place up. At the convention site you can control who attends but there?
#183 storytellers,
I am praying!
Any new info on the 8 SD’s?
#181 Vonay…My own personal belief is to wait a little longer to see if there is a shift in the polls. If it is tight as it is today, the way to stop BO would be to vote for McCain.
This is my opinion only. The right to vote is ultimately the only way regular folks can be heard. Thus, I think it will be down to our conscience to get out and make our vote count.
187 CTKEY,
You’re right. Just have to wait and see I guess.
Maybe if things can change before Aug. 28th we won’t have to vote for McCain after all? Just a thought!
#189 vadaryl…that is my prayer. That something happens and BO is off the ballot by Labor Day.
Hillary hasn’t released her delegates yet so I hope that means that she hasn’t given up hope yet either.
#179 Maryland PUMA
Well said and might I add, people need to have patience when sending things such as e-mails or ideas, we’re all in it for the long haul and there will be months ahead when your ideas etc will be used. So sit tight, enjoy the blog and bear with the powers that be.
I for one am very happy that I get to read and contribute to the blog without all the responsibility.
So basically have patience!
#191 texassherry
Yeah, and the new CNN poll showed almost half of Democrats still prefer Clinton to be the nominee. But of course, he’s flip-flipped a few more times since that poll, so I wonder what it looks like now!
just wanted to let you know…… donedems.com has a wonderful manifesto on its site… I LOVE IT!
Go there I beseech you and read it…. keep strong my friends… we are Democrats on a mission!!!
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I just wanted to say how great this whole thing is growing. I bet the DNC, Howard, the Dem party, Pelosi, etc. didnt ever think that a “Small group of bitter women” would grow to huge masses. I think it’s just terrific. Keeping going even after the convention, it’s just like the icing on the cake, they’re probally hoping once the convention is over that we’ll be gone. I hope they all have new jobs waiting for them once we vote them all out, well the ones who screwed up everything by pushing a person we didnt even know and still dont to this day. Well done puma’s and keep on fighting.
That poster is GREAT!
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#193 piepiepie75,
Good morning piepiepie. If we could get the media to report that both Hillary and Edwards have not conceded but only suspended then there would be a lot more people fighting for us. A lot of people have lost hope for Hillary because of the media’s inaccurate reporting. We need to get the word out that it isn’t too late for Hillary and we still have a chance.
#115 JANEPA : Yes! There are handlers of Obama i.e., George Soros, for one, who are advocates of so called World Government, i.e. a kind of borderless entity, primarily moved by the very richest in the world. These entities have no national ties, have their own mercenaries, i.e., hired private contractors, i.e, see Blackwater and others., have no need for allegiance to any country. Hillary Clinton’s position on the Department of Defense’s use of private security contracting was to outlaw it. Obama’s is to “monitor them more”..Why should our money and the Department of Defense and the military in the field have to monitor private security forces paid with billions of our tax dollars? Give the money to the military in the firist place or divert it somewhere else.
Obama is the front man, the mirror, the “empty slate, as he calls himself in his own book…for an array of handlers that threaten the nature of the Republic. I have not one paranoid bone in me. I have never been a part of the conspriacy crew in all my life. I believe,however, we are in the midst of an attempte coup by a combination of forces that spell absolute danger for this country. Hologram Obama must be defeated for this reason and so many other reaons, stated on this website and others across this country.
Obama is a fraud, an amoeba like, boundryless persona, an opportunist and a Machiavellian. These kind of individuals, no matter their purview, will accept any support from any entity. Clearly he has done this.
Sorry…my comment should read #116 Jane-Pa.
#197 PA4HILL08,
Good Morning. I would like to see post#2 verified and then made into a flyer for the action center. In my area this information could change the minds of any Obama supporters.
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#181 Vonay
I am with you on this one. The Gallup poll now has BHO leading by 6 points. More importantly, in RealClearPolitics.com, BHO has >300 electoral votes, based on the surveys done for each state. Like I have already pointed out, BHO is ahead in blue states by WIDE margins and is also ahead, albeit by small margins, in a number of traditionally red states. McCain, on the other hand, is ahead in red states only by a few points — for example, only 9 points ahead in AZ and also only 9 points ahead in TX. This is very disconcerting.
Dick Morris on Fox News said that if McCain does not wake up and continues to be complacent and not attack BHO for example on taking credit for welfare reform (another BIG BHO LIE!), BHO will shoot to 10-15 points ahead of McCain and at that point, it will be very hard to beat BHO.
I am very scared…
#201 texassherry on 07.07.08 at 12:11 pm
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Great idea! Thanks for pointing that out. That IS great information. I’ll run it by Maryland Puma and Murphy.
In the meantime, does anyone have a link to confirm the information in post #2 since I have not been able to get through all the posts yet today?
#205 PA4HILL08 ,
Thank you.
pumas¡¡¡
read savage politics; new post, & very good
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I mentioned it before
in regards to the media
it has been many instances in our history where the gov, has stepped in , in order to stop monopolies,
why do I say this???
the way the media is behaving is like a monopoly, the control in 1 goup, or 1 person that controls many groups, as we have seen in the pass diagram(way back,I think it was here), it is very sad to see all this “supposed” responsible journalist act as a claque, and not scrutinize the person that could be in the WH, THAT IS AN IRRESPONSABILITY & A LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC
#200 New Orleans Puma
I agree and makes one realise this has to be how he got where he is from nowhere. I think he has been groomed for a lot of years for this but just my thought.People endorseing him are a worry too.You dont come out with the endorsements they have made out of the blue or for someone you dont know.Hard to prove though. I think he is loseing his luster. Will be interesting
Hi gang, major news….Here is a link to todays Wall Stree Journal about Hillary’s main donors, in case you haven’t seen it yet! It says dozens of the about 300 backers are refusing to back Obama. Home for lunch and spied this:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121539354782631403.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Keep writing/e-mailing these people apparently many of them are listening! Spread the good word Pumas. Gotta go, catch you folks after work.
#205 PA4HILL08
The information is over 12 hours old and no confrimation nor supporting documents.
#199 , N.Oorleans Puma
I could not agree more @ you
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MSNBC going to do story after commerical break on BO losing support, even his base. At 12:30 pm
#214 Maryland PUMA on 07.07.08 at 12:27 pm
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Shall I post this on the Action Center somewhere?
#216 BigCatLover on 07.07.08 at 12:28 pm
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YUCK! You’re watching MSNBC? Silly puma.
Thanks for the tip!
RE: #211 CyberFerret52
Do we have a contact list of these 300 Clinton backers?
Thanks
#181 Vonay. I agree. Perhaps, after the convention, others may reach the same conclusion. Or, if another larger skelton drops from the hologram’s closet before then, perhaps we can all return to our original choice!
I, personally, think the DNC will not alter its intent for the convention and its candidate;however, that does not mean that I think people should not continue to continue to do exactly what they are saying and doing here and elsewhere to pound into the heads of these
usurping, Machiavellian, powermongers that we know what they are doing; we reject what they are doing; we will do all in our legal power to turn back what they are doing and in case they don’t get that prior to the convention, we will vote in a manner on election day that will result in PiedPiper Obama piping, as in the little story of the Pied Piper, all the rats over the cliff.
And, having done that, we and others will continue to reform and regain our party, one that represents the entire traditional base of Democrats. To that end, I will talk, protest, act and defy until my last breath on this earth. That is the Irish/French New Orleans, American way! We will not serve despots, or despotic moves, whether those moves take place inside the Democratic Party or outside of the Democratic Party…not now, not later, not ever…Never!
PA4HILL08
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#212 TrishfromCanada on 07.07.08 at 12:24 pm
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#221 Maryland PUMA on 07.07.08 at 12:32 pm
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#26 I have watched many programs about Nostradamus, and read many of his prophecies.
When BO rose from nowhere to challenge Hilliary (who had a 40% lead over him), the first thing that came to mind was, “Is he the Antichrist?”.
As I watched the crowds that followed him, I knew that the prophecy was being fulfilled.
Please don’t think I am a “religious fanatic”, because I am not. I believe this completely.
We, the 18M voters that were cast aside, are the only ones that can stop this from happening. We can not allow BO to become President.
If we do not succeed in having Hillary’s name put in nomination, then we must vote for McCain.
PUMA’S we must win the battle. I believe we can..
I have a few e-mails to send out. Will be back later..
Bonnie
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I posted this earlier this morning but I thought this was important enough to repost again:
Below is an excerpt from today’s Wall Street Journal on BO FACING RESISTANCE FROM TOP HILLRAISERS.
Some of these Hillraisers may already be PUMAs but maybe we can contact them to ask them to join in our effort. Here is the excerpt:
Obama Faces Resistance From Top Supporters of Clinton
By John R. Emshwiller and Christopher Cooper
Word Count: 1,572
Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, faces dissent from dozens of top fund-raisers and other supporters of former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who are angry over how she was treated during their bruising primary battle and are hesitating to back Sen. Obama.
Some leading Clinton supporters are starting new Web sites or political action committees aimed at prodding Sen. Obama on issues or pressuring him to give Sen. Clinton a big role in the general-election campaign. People familiar with the matter say the effort involves dozens of the roughly 300 Clinton “Hillraisers,” individuals who raised at least $100,000 …
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he canceled NC and there is another plane there near his. I dont trust him a bit. Maybe his way of slipping off to Iraq
A short word about polls. I believe the polls helped in dragging Hillary’s momentum down. Since much of the mainstream media is corporate controlled you can believe that many of the polls are owned as well. Not to say that some of them aren’t accurate but, which ones? Polling is a tool used to manipulate the American public opinion and it’s time we stop falling for it.
Hillmania:
If someone could get a list of those donors…..
WE NEED IT ASAP!!
Thanks!
#228 jane-pa,
I don’t trust him either. I hope the media stays on his tail and reports his every move.
HA HA HA
That reminds me of something I watched on Fox’s Red Eye show last night. The host’s mom was on the air, she’s like 90, and she said she doesn’t like *61, and she hopes he goes to Iraq so that someone can shoot that halo off his head.
Maryland PUMA –
There will be 75,000 people at the Denver stadium.
You can bet there will be a sea of Obama posters and banners.
How do we make an impact? We need a LARGE wet blanket. Hire a blimp to stay stationary in the middle of the Blimp ? I am asking for a quote and telling them where it would be used and why.
k…here is the list on wiki of major Clinton donors
anyone have additional info?
Clarence Avant
Steve Bing
Gov. James Blanchard
Lloyd Blankfein
Susie Tompkins Buell
Ronald Burkle
John Catsimatidis
Vikram Chatwal
Peter Chernin
Stanley M. Chesley
Amb. Timothy Chorba
Gov. Jon Corzine
Lanny Davis
John Delaney
Charles Dolan
James Dolan
Terry Duffy
U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein
U.S. Rep. Geraldine Ferraro
Gary Gensler
Gordon Giffin
John Grisham
Steven Grossman
Norman Hsu (de-listed)
Magic Johnson
Robert L. Johnson
Vernon Jordan
Declan Kelly
Marc Lasry
Jeffrey Lichtman
Nita Lowey
John J. Mack
Raul L. Martinez
Garry Mauro
U.S. Rep. Charles Thomas McMillen
Gifford Miller
Heidi Miller
Hassan Nemazee
Gov. Martin O’Malley
U.S. Rep. Frank Pallone
Richard Park
Jim Pederson
Ronald Perelman
Jorge M. Perez
Richard Perry
Arvind Raghunathan
Brett Ratner
Steven Rattner
Gov. Ed Rendell
Brian Roberts
Wayne Rogers
Lynn Forester de Rothschild
Haim Saban
U.S. Rep. Lynn Schenk
Bernard L. Schwartz
U.S. Rep. Ronnie Shows
Steven Spielberg
David Steinberg
Sribala Subramanian
Richard Sullivan
Mahinder Tak
U.S. Sen. Robert Torricelli
Ted Waitt
U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Mark S. Weiner
Howard Wolfson
#1 supporter Hans R Hess
Maryland Puma: I’ll do some research for the 300 donors.
How about …let’s not energize the stadium scene…let’s see Hillary making a suprise acceptance speech at Pepsi.
#218 PA4HILL08
Couldn’t believe my ears when someone said earlier that MSNBC was reporting this story so had to listen with my own ears. Sure enough, they did the story, but had someone saying that everyone moves to the center, o big deal, but MS did report the story straight. Amazing!
#62 Sorytellers Do you think he even KNOWS how to run a fair campaign since all he did in Chicago was dirty campaigning? Rhetorical …
Hi pumas had a busy weekend with family and all, just now catching up on the facts. Heard that some delegates are switching over wow thats great. Also Obamas plane had to make an their saying ” unscheduled landing” due to engine trouble. Just wondering if any body heard. Gosh what else did I miss?
#236 alohapuma,
I agree but we need a plan in case. Otherwise we won’t have time to get anything together.
MsBin
a very good morning to you also
TREEPUMA
#236 alohapuma,
Maybe some of the Pumas going to Denver to protest can make it part of their plan to attend Hillary’s acceptance speech to celebrate, or to attend BO’s to boo and protest if that is the case. That way we are covered.
#73 Cosmeta The way I understood why the suits were thrown out is that our right to vote only applies to the general election. The DNC is a private organization and can basically do whatever they want, however they want. don’t know if it would make a difference filing a class action suit. I am sure there are ways around this kind of stuff but need a “constitutional” attorney (just kidding because that is what *61 is).
Yesterday I heard an BO supporter on tv say even though his liberal base is upset with him, where else are they going to go? They will still support him in Nov.
I wanted to yell at the tv, they can always go to Hillary!!!
Flyers – this one is a little negative for me and somewhat old news. Will there be other flyers later? This is just what I’m comfortable with and not comfortable with, so is not meant to disparage the effort put into doing the flyer. Just hope we can use news as it breaks, like flipflops, the tax info posted at the top of the thread, etc. Until then, I’ll continue to use the flyers from the Action Center. Thanks.
diva 2,# 238
it looks like everything he has done, has been thru “the back door”
nothing in him is straight foward, evrythin is strange
right now, the undemocratic party looks like it is run by a “putin”-
texassherry
Sounds good.
#228 Thats what I said this morning. He is on his way to Iraq. He had said a couple of days ago he was going to “vacation” and would not be telling the press any details. He wants to be there with no coverage…..hello……who is he really going to meet over there? He also said he will be going to several countries. No wonder he wants no press.
#228 jane-pa on 07.07.08 at 12:40 pm he canceled NC and there is another plane there near his. I dont trust him a bit. Maybe his way of slipping off to Iraq
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That is a good thought. It would not surprise me in the least because the report is that BO was the only one allowed to get off the plane – the reporters, etc were to wait on the plane till it was ready to take off again.
#249
It would not surprise me in the least because the report is that BO was the only one allowed to get off the plane – the reporters, etc were to wait on the plane till it was ready to take off again.
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They do seem to have a tight lease on the reporters.
#227 Hillmania on 07.07.08 at 12:38 pm
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Hmmm. Interesting. This sort of works with the blog posts of passed couple of days from Heidi Li Feldman of The Denver Group where she reports they’ve been receiving ‘strong’ fundraising for their Denver efforts. Just may be some of those big Clinton backers chiming in with their checkbooks perhaps. Hmmm…
By the way, don’t forget to give to that Denver Group Rapid Action. They hope to get ads in major newspapers this week! This is a very, very important effort (in my humble opinion of course)!
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/informed-speculation-what-clinton-and.html
I know what ya mean catsrlove, some of my family have been saying the same thing about Obama being the antichrist, It’s something to think about especially if you read revelations. And if ya know about the Myan cultures calander ending in 2012 something to think about.
#196 bmw60- I am in Philly. Not sure how much time I have but email me at hillgirl.puma@gmail.com.
Great contributions by everyone else!
I need to sign off.
maryland or Pa or hill…
When there is a contact list of the donors, I’m assuming it will be in the action center. When it’s posted, I will send each a letter. Thanks!!!
PURRRRR
#234 Alohapuma: You’re too quick for me. Thanks for doing that. I guess they used to be on Hillaryclinton.com before it got scrubbed.
Here’s the link for the names you posted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HillRaisers
they said he has closed fundraisers tonight in Atlanta so must for visability. Isnt this the forum he talked of the bitter people of pa in ca? It would be an avenue to not seeing him though. Give him time to do something else.
one must admit that he is rabble-rouser, a diver, etc
I think it was CESAR who said : divede & you will conquer
the liberals, the african-americans, regular democrats, lefties that support him, would not be a problem for the party, if he is not the nominee
but the upset rubble I think is what the party is afraid of
Hillmania,
Do you want to split the list and search for contact information or do you have another source?
OR another idea
don’t mean to all gloom and doom because I think this time we pumas can change the course of History GOOOOOOOOOOOO PUMAS
Just received an email from Ploufe telling me if I donate I can have a chance to be one of 10 lucky doners to win a trip to the convention to hear BO’s acceptance speech. I’d rather stick needles in my eyes.
Big Announcement from Obama camp. (whoopie)
I wanted you to be the first to hear the news. (oh lucky me)
At the Democratic National Convention next month, (one more month till Hillary is the nominee) we’re going to kick off the general election with an event that opens up the political process the same way we’ve opened it up throughout this campaign. (what the entirely crooked process?)
Barack has made it clear that this is your convention, not his. (really, then Mr. Flip Flop should step down)
On Thursday, August 28th, he’s scheduled to formally accept the Democratic nomination in a speech at the convention hall in front of the assembled delegates. (LMAO, not if Hillary gives her acceptance speech first after BO is dumped)
Instead, Barack will leave the convention hall (in tears)and join more than 75,000 people for a huge, free, open-air event where he will deliver his acceptance speech to the American people. (naw, that ain’t gonna happen, he’s a loser)
It’s going to be an amazing event, and Barack would like you to join him. (HAVE YOU FREAKIN LOST YOUR MINDS, JOIN HIM FOR WHAT?) Free tickets will become available as the date approaches, (oh give me, give me, so I can burn them!) but we’ve reserved a special place for a few of the people who brought us this far and who continue to drive this campaign. (oh really, like the crooked DNC and news reporters to name a few)
If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage,(oh that’s worth it, not!) and watch his acceptance speech in person. (don’t be stupid David, you don’t “watch” a speech, you “listen” to one, but then again we are talking about OBAMA)+(you mean consession speech don’t you?)Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them. (will take PUMAS, oh shit, they’ll already be there without BO’S “sweet” offer!)
Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history: (LMAOROTF, sweetie, history is being made as I type!)
(dontate instead to)www.blog.pumapac.org (my contribution choice)
We’ll follow up with more details on this and other convention activities as we get closer, but please take a moment and pass this note to someone you know who might like to be there. (I’m passing it to PUMAS)
It will be an event you’ll never forget. (it sure will when BO is not officially nominated!)
Thank you, (oh, your so welcome)
David
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
RISE HILLARY RISE!
Here is my reply to Plouffe:
I have never donated to Obama’s candidacy and I never will. Nor will I ever vote for him.
PUMA
bythelake
are you for real???
#19 PRPLVETTE85 RE: RETIRING CLINTON’S DEBT
I’m assuming that if they’re starting to divert funds to her 2012 senate campagin that her debt is retired, but who knows? I’m actually pissed that this confusion exists. I hold no political candidate up on a pedastal and while I’m a major advocate for Hillyary and continue to work tirelessly on her behalf, I think it’s pretty screwed up that all of us who have precious little money to give but give it anyway and who continue to work for her should have to expend an ounce of energy contacting anyone at her campaign to inquire into where our money went. That’s just messed up and when I e-mailed them today, I told them I thought it was pretty crummy.
#22 ABINNY RE: KENNEDY’S ENDORSEMENT OF OBABMA
Kennedy’s endorsement should be no surprise. The AP or NYTimes (can’t remember which) had a story at the outset of the primary season about Kennedy and Kerry being kingbuilders and essentially selecting Obama as their guy to put forward. One of the reasons they stated amazingly enough was the very fact that Obama had such a short voting record for the Republican’s to vet. Insane all the way around!
#144 SAM-I-AM RE: POLLS
Good polls (and Zogby is one of them) are good because they are done in a relatively scientific way in terms of how they sample the electorate and the way they phrase questions. So, while we can all go to on line polls and vote and while we may know lots of like minded folks, for the most part, well respected polls such as Zogby, Gallop and most recently, the Iowa Electronic Market (though that’s not a poll) have proven to be quite good at predicting outcomes. But, we needn’t get distracted. We’re doing the work we do because of our convictions. Of course we all want a good outcome. But, the work needs to get done now. We can’t control the outcome beyond a certain point. In general, I find it challenging to strike a balance between staying centered in reality and doing the avoidance thing because it gets discouraging and makes it harder for me to do what I have to do. Obama’s doing welll right now. There’s no doubt. But there’s a long time between now and November and the Republicans haven’t even begun to bring out there awesome machine against him. Just wait!
#225 MURPHY RE: INFO ABOUT JOINING
I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but hoping a newcomer finds your post in this thread is a surefire way to ensure you’ll lose newbies along the way. Is there any way while the site is under construction to at least get some down and dirty stuff changed now? It doesn’t have to be the most elegant and perfect design, but something that works in the interum?
RE: POSTER
Pretty good, though I think having a quote from “unknown” across the very top isn’t the strongest way to go. Lord knows, there are plenty of fabulous quotes in the world, be it from political leaders from the time of our nation’s birth to poets to…you name it.
For some reason the raffle ticket makes me laugh. The hot air balloon or I mean the blimp would be a perfect response to this narcissistic escapade!
#261 RISEHILLARYRISE
Loved your embedded comments!!! LOL!
#265 ALOHAPUMA
More laughter!!! Thanks!
264 Anna7000
The point of my earlier post was not the Kennedy endorsed him, that is old news, but that it was revealed today that one reason he endorsed him was so that Caroline Kennedy could become involved in what they called “the family business” i.e.politics. That explains why she was selected to be on Obie’s VP search team.
Foot in the door, thanks to Uncle Ted.
Hello PUMA Family!
Excellent poster! That speaks eloquently about NONAME.
Here’s something for a laugh and to think about.
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What is a Post Turtle?
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.
The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’ was.
The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.
“You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him up there in the first place.”
#264 Don’t be alarmed, it depends on the link you used. Some people went directly to the Clinton site, and hit the wrong button, I believe it is those people whose money went to the Senate campaign instead. If you chose the link through any of the justsaynodeal coalition, pumpapac, Heidi Li etc, it went to retire the debt.
hillmania, I thought I’d wait a bit for your response.
In the meantime…has it crossed anyone’s mind that McCain isn’t focusing on a “message” yet because (perhaps) he’s not convinced Obama will be on the ticket? Why waste his precious public financing dollars on the nominee that wasn’t….
food for thought or fantasy…
I’m for real, you know how hard it is not to burst out laughing at myself between customers in my store while I do these things…egads……
It’s been a few hours anything new on the Super story from this morning.
You know, I had pretty much given up on Hillary being POTUS in 2008, but as I read the Blogs here and elsewhere, I think there is a chance.
I had a group of Obamats at our July 4th family gathering spouting the usual garbage. I did manage to get them to say that they would enthusiastically vote for Hillary, if she is/will be the candidate.
I should mention that unless Hillary releases her pledged delegates, they MUST vote for her on the first roll-call. After that, they can vote anyway that they wish. Obviously, as we have discovered, the superdelegates cna flow with the wind, anytime.
PUMA!!
As far as Jennedy & Kerry endorsing Obama . . . they have a hidden agenda which we may not find out about for quite a while. It may have to do with MA politics or with patrick Patrick ( a close friend of Obama’s ) being the Governor of MA.
As far as Laroche goes . . . I’m not too keen on him. He’s highly controversial and can give fuel to our opponents that this group is a “front”. The friend of my friend is not necessarily my friend.
#271 ALOHAPUMA
Yeah, I’ve thought of that, too. Wondered if the GOP are holding back just to make sure Obama is the one. In fact, I’ve even gone so far as to think of using this an an argument with the DNC ie: The Republicans have, thus far, been targeting Obama. Wouldn’t it be a great stategy if the DNC did a bait and switch at the last minute so the Republicans would have to retool just a couple of months before the GE because they find themselves up against a different candidate.
Loved your “food for fantasty”!
#285 MPDAMON
I completely agree with your view of Laroche. I think he’s bad news and it’s best to steer clear.
#121 Mountainsong (or anyone contacting labor unions)
If you are contacting labor unions, please direct them to this news video of Tom Buffenbarger, President of the International Brother of Machinists Union, lambasting Senator Obama for abandoning Maytag workers and then lying during the campaign that he had actually helped.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/20/684411.aspx
The Kennedy’s
Some comments have been made about the Kennedy’s supporting *61. I belIeve I heard ahwile back that Robert Kennedy’s family (or one of the Kennedy’s) actually supports or supported Senator Clinton. If anyone recalls this, maybe we could write them as well and talk to them about our support for Senator Clinton and what the PUMAS are about?
If anyone knows more on this and how we might contact them, that would be great. Just one more Clinton supporters that may help in some way.
Just a thought…
Diva Rodham 2
#258 Alohapuma:
I just read your post, I’ve been searching for more names but haven’t found any.
I will split the list with you. I’ll take top half if you take bottom. How do you propose listing it? Should we e-mail it to the action center and let them distribute it or post it here?
when Obama had a rough time with Writght and went to the beach the polls had Hillary up 1 point in NC day after he came back the poll said Oba, 20. I wrote a poll saying Hillary 15 and put it on my desk. I blogged I saw a poll Hillary 15 and they all said well polls arent really acurate. Hello??
#278 JBJD RE: UNIONS
The guy in this video is amazing. Really, really dynamic. He was a Clinton surrogate and the first time I saw him was on a video on her web site. Listening to him gives you chills. Wish there had been more of that out there and wish there was more like that out there now.
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to contact big name folks to join us and speak out. Famous Hollywood types would be great. Does anyone know if Will or Murphy or anyone from Just Say No Deal are working on that? And/or if any famous types are planning to partake in demonstrations in Denver?
279 Diva
good idea. Robert Kennedy and his family stayed true to Hillary and I believe still do.
have to run a bit see ya all later tcb4n
#281 JANE-PA RE: POLLS
Jane, I really want to understand your point, but I don’t get it (sorry for being thick).
Anyway, on the subject of polls, I think they’re a double-edged sword: While they may truly reflect the whims of the electorate on any given day, they also influence their whims on the following day because of the numbers people see and the unconscious desire to be part of the winning team, etc. So, I have mixed feelings about polls. I think they can provide very useful information for a campaign, but they can also impact the public’s perception in a way that isn’t great. Then too, many people vote for someone simply because they recognize their name or because they got a flier in the mail two days before the election and not because they truly understand what that candidate is about. The public can be very fickle!
Good Afternoon PUMAS!
I will be emailing for the flyers. We need some here in West Virginia. Great work from everyone here. I’ll be emailing the info about taxes to my address list.
Melissa
Wayne County, WV
PUMA PAC Democrat
Fred: Just a shout out that I LOVE the poster!
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/cgi-bin/mt4/mt-c.cgi
Comment form is at the bottom of the page, no login or registration.
Informative article, more detail of Obama’s comments and WORM*, and some useful info in the comments.
*What Obama Really Meant
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Obama Faces Resistance From Top Supporters of Clinton
By John R. Emshwiller and Christopher Cooper
Word Count: 1,572
Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, faces dissent from dozens of top fund-raisers and other supporters of former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who are angry over how she was treated during their bruising primary battle and are hesitating to back Sen. Obama.
Some leading Clinton supporters are starting new Web sites or political action committees aimed at prodding Sen. Obama on issues or pressuring him to give Sen. Clinton a big role in the general-election campaign. People familiar with the matter say the effort involves dozens of the roughly 300 Clinton “Hillraisers,” individuals who raised at least $100,000 …
The above is from the Wall Street Journal and you need to subscribe to read the entire article but I thought this excerpt was interesting. Here’s the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121539354782631403.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_page_one
Personally, I hope “a big role in the general-election campaign” doesn’t mean VP! Why should Hillary spend four or eight years ironing his shirt? — Or even a few months campaigning for him? See http://www.ipetitions.com/ipetition/hillarynovp
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#137…
Do all of you have a facebook acct?
facebook.com
It’s easy and fun. PUMA is on there and so is justsaynodeal.
It’s not just for the young college students…
And there are many other Hillary supporter pages to join.
Let’s beat Obama at his own game.
INVITATION TO JOIN BARACK IN DENVER
Here’s the reply I sent David Plouffe in response to his generous invitation …
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Dear Mr. Plouffe,
Thank you for your invitation. I’d truly love to be your special guest and have the opportunity to meet Barack backstage. Do you think he could set aside enough time to listen to all the reasons I think he’s not fit to be our President?
I just got this back from Katie Dowd about my donation on July the 4th to Hillary, to pay down her debt.
Dear Diane,
I want to apologize for the confusion this has caused and I want to
assure you that your contribution has gone towards helping the Senator’s
debt. Thank you for everything you do to support her and appreciate your
patience while we go through this transition time.
Thanks
Katie Dowd
hillmania,
I’ll work on the bottom half this evening. I think listing in the action center is the best idea, but I we could each post our info here as well. Murphy and all will need to decide if this will be an action item.
I think these donors would really appreciate hearing from us…especially those who are holding out. Sometimes they are in such rarified air they could use something fresh.
This is an article I came acroos this morning. It’s old, April, but the points in it are interesting. It shows why Hillary should be the Presidential Candidate.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/28/193233/688
alohapuma:
Good idea to e-mail and post the list. I’ll be working off and on it today.
Good luck!
Looks like you guys are well rested and on fire today. I’m just starting to read morning posts, but #2 was really informative and I agree with #57 texassherry, if that were done up into a flyer I would put them up too. Lots of college kidlets doing summer school, so I can do the teaching! I’m off to send my addy in for some of Fred’s spectacular posters!
Again, you guys make my day.
Diane —
I wanted you to be the first to hear the news.
At the Democratic National Convention next month, we’re going to kick off the general election with an event that opens up the political process the same way we’ve opened it up throughout this campaign.
Barack has made it clear that this is your convention, not his.
On Thursday, August 28th, he’s scheduled to formally accept the Democratic nomination in a speech at the convention hall in front of the assembled delegates.
Instead, Barack will leave the convention hall and join more than 75,000 people for a huge, free, open-air event where he will deliver his acceptance speech to the American people.
It’s going to be an amazing event, and Barack would like you to join him. Free tickets will become available as the date approaches, but we’ve reserved a special place for a few of the people who brought us this far and who continue to drive this campaign.
If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.
Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history:
https://donate.barackobama.com/openconvention
We’ll follow up with more details on this and other convention activities as we get closer, but please take a moment and pass this note to someone you know who might like to be there.
It will be an event you’ll never forget.
Thank you,
David
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
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I just received this also, my reply:
I wouldn’t pay 1 dollar to see Obama. I hope that people finally wake up and see that this man Obama….is NOT electable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO, I hope the event never takes place!!!
VADARYL – Re our morning news – see post 164 by Goalacard.
Just got back in and checked blog for any updates and that was the latest(unless I missed it).
Now I am going to go look for some verification of tax info post before I have to go meet a client.
Fred #233 — already quoted on blimp and aerial advertising.
email me.
What’s in a name…
In stark contrast,
December 13, 2006
Who is Barak Obama?
CNN — Jeannie Most
YouTube – This is how stupid people are in the United States
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SX3f2KmOiI
Note: This is CNN’s version of media spin. It alludes to a controvery over one’s name rather than to place the emphasis on policies, judgement, associations, and character. Then again, Jeanni Most is a news comedian, is she not.
February 26, 2008
YouTube – Talk Radio’s Bill Cunningham at McCain Event
Calling BHO a Chicago Political Hack and using his middle name.
CNN Anderson Cooper360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD7NODZivYw
#251 PA4HILL08:
Thanks for posting that information on The Denver Group. I’ll take some time and read up on it. It’s the first I’ve heard about it.
alohapuma and I are working on getting contact info on the Hillraisers.
#2 Ontherocks
Love the ammo (Uhh… info) you gave about taxes. I have already been out to other sites growling about it.
#110 annabelle on 07.07.08 at 10:25 am Alos, I’m sorry I even have to ask, but can I please get added to the blogroll now? Is my effort enough yet?
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if it helps, I’ve added alink to your Declarations as well as to your blog on the Action Center links page.
http://pumapacusa.org/links.html
Believe me. No one is ignoring you. Murphy and others are very, very busy behind the scenes, at great cost to them of time away from their daily lives and families. I’m sure she’ll get to yoru requests/emails soon. Be patient.
Murphy
Have we considered doing Ocean City MD too? It’s 20 min from my house and we get 250K minimum coming in on any given day.
I can try to hit the boardwalk and beach on the day the plane flies around.
Will email you prices.
#2 ontherocks
Great info. What is the source? One in particular?
I stand corrected:
The sound of an airplane flying overhead entices beach-goers (numbering 500,000+ per weekend from Ocean City, MD to Rehoboth, Delaware) to look upwards and see your message.
A timeline of events surrounding the pledge controversy as presented in YouTube format; the dating of which shows the time of upload and not the event. Still, it is useful information.
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October 04, 2007
YouTube – Obama Stops Wearing American Flag Pin
WATERLOO, Iowa (AP) – Democratic presidential c…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccbPVMBKQpA
November 08, 2007
By Mark Finkelstein | November 7, 2007 – 15:36 …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPT6edfURTI&NR=1
Added: November 18, 2007 (More info)
YouTube – YouTube – Obama Obects to Pledge for Religious Reasons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xV-HMmNZO8&feature=related
January 20, 2008
YouTube – Barack Hussein Obama refuses to salute US flag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o
Added: February 24, 2008
YouTube – Obama saying pledge of Allegiance
Here is proof that disputes the ridiculous rumo…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIyBwkuqF4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6bKaVW-ls
See also,
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/patriot
Notice: This is *not* the event that is in question but is its rebuttal. The two events are not the same! Be that as it may, the song being played was the Star Spangled Banner; and even though we do not have to place our hand over our heart for this song, one would *expect* that any Presidential hopeful would to honor our country and our flag. To do otherwise is very disrespectful and very unpatriotic, imo.
February 24, 2008
YouTube – Another BS Story Via Media Matters about Barack Obama
Hannity & Cholmes, good cop, bad cop and Dick Morris as just bad!
Steak Fry, Sponsored by Senator Harkin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LyYB1si7cI
February 25, 2008
YouTube – Obama SINGS National Anthem… Others DO NOT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4FD-j_Dqq8&NR=1
November 19, 2008
YouTube – Obama yells at elderly Iowa voter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6krf18huA&NR=1
An Oldie but Goodie!
YouTube — Red Skelton’s “Pledge of Allegiance”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfz2XDXaeqc
“Obama is known for drawing huge crowds to many of his speeches. In May, a record 75,000 jammed into a riverside park in Portland, Ore., to hear him speak shortly before that state’s primary.”
The AP is sending around the work that Obamalama ding dong is accepting the nomination in Invesco Field…WTF
Is he by passing the floor vote now??
#290 Firebelle Puma on 07.07.08 at 1:39 pm
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LOL! that’s a great response!
Great Response #290, Wouldn’t you love to have an hour to give all the specifics why he will never be our candidate?
#245 BigCatLover
Do not know if you are still on here or reading but -
Simply put and I agree with you. I had a person who helps me and they said they did not feel comfortable helping with this one. I respect their opinion and will do other types of them.
Haven’t found the specific tax table above, but I am going to keep on researching.
However, for those of us looking for some communication ammunition the following link has some details of how the proposal will affect us negatively.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/wm1973.cfm
An article worth reading.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=682&Itemid=1
MARYLAND PUMA -
I will join you on this one!! Work for PUMA and a day on our glorious boardwalk! You can count me in.
#233 Fred (and Murphy)
I put this idea out here about week ago, but it was shot down by post cause they said you can not have anytype of air banners, planes, blimps, hotair ballons etc due to security, air restrictions.
Keep trying
#308 Mac
An hour? That’s just long enough for the prologue.
I love this article from June in “Virginia Politics”. gotta love how it ends
Author Grisham Still Supports Clinton
Internationally known novelist John Grisham and his wife, Renee, both active Democrats, drove from their home outside Charlottesville to the convention in Hampton.
Mrs. Grisham was selected this afternoon to serve as a delegate at the Democratic National Convention, where she plans to support Hillary Clinton even though Barack Obama won enough delegates to secure the nomination. Grisham will accompany his wife to Denver.
Mrs. Grisham has known Clinton since attending a dinner at the White House a decade ago and campaigned for the New York senator in several states, including Texas and Mississippi, where she and her husband used to live.
The couple hosted a fundraiser for Sen. Hillary Clinton last fall on the historic downtown mall in Charlottesville. More than 1,000 supporters attended the event, which raised $200,000.
Grisham, who has sold more than 235 million books worldwide, served in the Mississippi House of Representatives from 1983 to 1990. He hosted a fundraiser for Sen. James Webb in 2006 in Charlottesville along with Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and author Stephen King.
What do the Grishams think of Obama?
“We’re Hillary people,” he said.
1of18Mil…
It looks like Murphy is talking about advertising PUMA to large populations and Fred is talking about the Convention.
If it gets to the stadium with 75,000 I think it would be a waste of money to hire a blimp if we could get clearance which is unlikely.
HI GUYS, JUST READ SOME STUFF OVER AT A HIREHEELS.COM. THEY ARE PRETTY FUNNY OVER THERE. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT *61 DIRTY DANCING AROUND TOPICS AND THEN SAID “NO ONE PUTS BABY IN A CORNER” HYSTERICAL! I LIKE IT!
LET BE HILLARY’S PATRICK SWAYZE AND RESCUE HER FROM BEING PLACED IN THE CORNER!
RISE HILLARY, RISE!
NEW TOPIC(ISH) RE: DNC ON BALLOT AND ROLL CALL VOTE
NEW TOPIC(ISH) RE: DNC ON BALLOT AND ROLL CALL VOTE
#296 hillaryisthe one – aren’t those hilarious? I got one a few weeks ago that said something like if I got 10 friends to contribute to Governor Gregoire’s re election, I’d have a chance to go backstage with MO. I don’t know why that didn’t excite me! LOL!
#313 1of18MilforHill08 PLANES, BLIMPS, ETC.
Yes, the air space above Denver will be restricted during the convention. I have no knowledge of specific plans, but I’d bet they’re treating the convention as if it’s a high-profile target for potential terrorists.
#124 ANNABELLE
“which I think is important, more important than a smear poster with no rational complaints (however well done),”
I agree. You might consider this as an option.I’m going to request a packet of posters and reprint the backs of them with a short introduction about PUMApac, bullet points regarding the RBC, and a comment or two about Barack Obama.
firebelle,
they are also preparing for riots…sounds like the place to be and be seen:)
Love the poster, but, unfortunately, can’t distribute it around here. I’ve already received a veiled threat for questioning Nobama’s qualifications and highlighting his flip-flop positions and inexperience. Sorry. I also read to day the Annointed is planning to accept the nomination in a football field. This guy scares me to death!
NEW TOPIC(ISH) RE: DNC ON BALLOT AND ROLL CALL VOTE
Sorry, I hit the wrong button and the heading posted before I could type my note:
A few weeks ago I had read (I think on NoQuarter’s site, but not sure) that Hillary’s name would not be on the ballot. So, I called the DNC myself that same day. In fact I called twice. I asked them outright if her name would be on the ballot. Both times I received the same response: That her name had been removed from the ballot because she was no longer running. When I asked if that was the wishes of the Clinton campaign I was told that they had no idea what the Clinton campaign wanted, but that was what they were doing since she had stopped running. Again, I got the same response twice.
Fast forward to today. I was curious what they were saying about this. So, I called the DNC and posed the same question. The woman answering the phone was extremely curt and rude. She said Clintons name would be on the ballot and that the convention would be run like any other convention in the past, that there would be a roll call vote, but that they expected everyone would vote for Obama because he is the presumptive nominee. She said she didn’t know where this rumor about Hillary’s name not being on the ballot got started, but it’s a rumor and I need to stop calling and asking. She said they’ve been getting a lot of calls about it and, in general, sound quite irritated. When I pointed out to her that there was an obvious need to call (again) since I seemed to be getting different information from the DNC, asking he to explain why someone at the DNC would have told me otherwise just a few weeks ago. She said she didn’t know and I needed to stop calling and was really rude. It was a horrible experience and another example of feeling that I no longer belong (and so glad I switched my party status to Independent weeks ago). I could hear the annoyance and pressure they must feel from folks like us. Too f—ing bad! They broke our trust and now they expect us to just go along with Obama, with whatever they say on the phone, everything. I can’t believe this was my party for so many years. I doubt I’ll ever go back.
PS Sorry for typos in posts. I just don’t have the patience to proof read.
#233 FRED
I’m still brainstorming ideas that will demonstrate our numbers in Denver.
I think we need to focus on PRE-Denver with the aerial ads. Target areas with heavy populations with the planes and ground troops. Like I said, and MsBinMD knows, we get a HUGE amount of vacationers from the surrounding urban areas on the weekends.
Disney would be the ideal vacationer spot. LOL
#323 alohapuma
Yes, I’m sure they are preparing for riots. However, I can’t speak to that from experience. I’ve only been involved in counterterrorism training and preparations.
#329 Firebelle
Can I stand next to you!
Hey Folks,
pumapac email is down. website is fine. I have 10 different urgent calls in to the ISP.
Until I have access to email, please be patient. I will respond to everyone/everything.
meanwhile, send questions to marylandpuma@gmail.com (thanks MP!)
Urgent messages to me, send to darraghmurphy@comcast.net
Thanks!
HEY!
I got the perfect slogan for the banners
SUSPENDED NOT ENDED
a play on the SELECTED NOT ELECTED.
Your thoughts?
Girl, why’d you post your email addy, I could have just fielded questions for a while.
Sheesh.
RE: OUR NUMBERS
I’m very curious as well to know just how large of a group we are at this point. One sign that isn’t that encouraging is the petition at the hillarygrassrootscampaign.com only has accumulated 5,000+ signatures over these past many weeks. (For psychological purposes, whoever’s in charge of that might want to rethink lowering the goal number from 5,000,000 down to something more achievable. In any case, seems like the number of signatures should be much higher by now. Has everyone signed it?
#81 will13smith on 07.07.08 at 9:55 am
This is must watch !!!
http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=859qeM53M93X6k41HNBV
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Oh my gosh! That is hysterical!
amanda marcotte already published my home address, so what the heck!
hold down the fort Pumas — MP will keep everyone safe and happy!
To All PUMAs
#2 ontherocks
Someone asked for a source for the information. ontherocks said that he/she had to go to work so I started looking on the internet for a source. I checked out the St.Peterburg Times in Flordia (someone said they had seen a tax comparison there), but the articles I found were vague or dealt with specific issues. So I checked other sources. The most valid that I could find was the Tax Center at the Brookings Institute (which is reputable). They have a 37 page document with all the comparisons between the McCain/Obama tax plans. I haven’t had time to read it and compare with ontherocks #2 citings, but have downloaded both and will check out the similarities and differences. If anyone is interested in “summer reading” on tax issues
, too, go to :
http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/3086515 on tz
Hi, dropping in for a minute w/out having time to read previous posts today. REALLY busy. BUT I got this reply to a comment I posted on our local news polls, and I’m wondering if anyone has a clean, solid answer already prepared that I can just copy and paste…. I’m running WAY too late to write from scratch but she seams like she really wants some answers:
“Maybe you can explain to me how Obama stole the nomination and what election rules did Obama break. I’m an Obama suppporter but I think Hillary really beat herself by not contesting the 11 contests after super tuesday. And really not having a plan for after super tuesday. Obama ended up winning by almost exactly the margin of the 11 contests Clinton didn’t even compete in.”
Thanks!
Those 75,000 youngsters were there to hear a concert…not the selected one!!!
#261 bythelake
Loooved it!!!!
Murphy,
Are you moving?
Anna7000
So much for their transition.
It seems to me the Obama campaign is resorting to steamrolling and grandiose posturing to undermine the will of the hold-outs. Their staff have swooped in like the transition team in a hostile takeover.
“Her name was taken off the ballot because she wasn’t running” and “They will all vote for Obama because he’s the presumed nominee”. How inane! They probably have temps (who don’t know a roll call from a tootsie roll) manning these calls.
#81 will13smith
I haven’t read through all the posts yet so forgive me if this has been already stated by any other members. The video link you posted was great — but it seems the news person has many facts wrong. They mentioned an unknown candidate — do they think PUMA is the name of an unknown candidate? The report also seems to have the facts wrong about who and why this movement was started. They are reporting it like it started as a joke, not intending it to be anything serious. Are they getting this information from the Obama camp? What’s going on with that report?
#325 Anna7000,
Thank you for making that call. I was wondering about that myself. It sounds like they got a lot of negative feedback about their plans to change the convention and had to switch it back.
halligan
that was me. thanks
#318 mimi1020 on 07.07.08 at 2:07 pm
nice!!! i love that movie. nobody puts hillary in a corner!!! come on, let’s dance hill and show em how it’s done…
Also — I don’t know if this was a good idea or not — but I sent the Obama quote mentioned on this link to all the news stations:
http://race42008.com/2008/06/16/obama-we-dont-need-the-people-we-just-need-the-checks/
For those that haven’t seen it yet… it might be another gift from Rendell in which Obama is quoted as saying he doesn’t need any of the people — just their checks.
Maryland,
I love
SUSPENDED NOT ENDED
#243 diva2 on 07.07.08 at 12:55 pm, WROTE,
[[ #73 Cosmeta The way I understood why the suits were thrown out is that our right to vote only applies to the general election. The DNC is a private organization and can basically do whatever they want, however they want. ]]
Yep. You said it better than me. Which means, none of us have to vote in a Primary let alone donate to one. By way of their (DNC/courts) logic; its unconstitutional. heeheehee
[[don’t know if it would make a difference filing a class action suit. I am sure there are ways around this kind of stuff but need a “constitutional” attorney (just kidding because that is what *61 is).
And he also claims to be a Professor of law, but I have come across a few sites that say that’s a lie and that he only lectured on law while on leave.
Read this one.
“No ‘Professor’ Obama at U. of C.
TAUGHT CLASSES | Political flap over his precise law school title
March 30, 2008
Recommend (14)
BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist
WASHINGTON — The University of Chicago released a statement Thursday saying Sen. Barack Obama “served as a professor” in the law school — but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed on Friday.
“He did not hold the title of professor of law,” said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an assistant dean for communications and lecturer in law at the school. ”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/867973,CST-NWS-sweet30.article
HI >.. just got my letter too………. shall I reply? of course, I am a PUMA… so let’s see what shall I say?
Thank You for giving me the opportunity of a “lifetime”. He has inspired me to really fear the breakdown of democracy in our country and since I do not want to live with that fear I will not be voting for him nor will I support him with my money.
There are so many reasons that this fear is real to me. I am one of 18 million disinfranchised voters who feel that their voice was not heard and will never be heard. I will not be dehumanized or dissuaded any longer. I am not resigned to continue playing second-fiddle in this wretched band, left with no option but to break from a Party establishment heretofore unapologetic and complicit in the accreditation and brokerage of disenfranchisement, voter fraud, vote suppression, bigotry and misogyny, and voter intimidation; similarly, moving to reject overtures soliciting unconditional acceptance of Mr. Obama’s lack of experience, lack of consistency, lack of character, lack of integrity, lack of selflessness, lack of transparency, lack of ideas, and lack of sound judgment, and to demand consequences for these and other implicit violations of the national Democratic trust and tradition.
I mean no ill, but move now for the greater good. I rebel without enmity, being motivated not by hatred, but by affection for what was and faith for what will be. I embark also with fading anger, with rising ease and resignation, having never been eager to divide myself from my Family, having tried first to understand while being willfully misunderstood, and having first begged for compromise while being crippled. I have urged for equity in application of rules and bylaws. I have begged for full representation. I have called for fairness in reporting and appealed for an end to double standards.
Since none of this has come to pass I cannot therefore support with money or my vote Mr. Obama’s candidacy for the democratic party.
Very Sincerely Yours,
That is one great poster!
Heard from the ISP that email should be fine within the hour — just a blip when they were “uploading a new user interface,” or some such.
good news
Very exciting times wrt to our grassroots efforts. I’m very impressed with the Bus initiative, Real Dems USA doing some groundword in swing states, sending out packets…. very good.
Now, for tactical reasons, we should have a site dedicated to polling info from the primaries along with maps that show who voted for who.
Using this information can help us run precise campaigns that weave the narrative we’ve all come to know regarding BO. For instance, areas of NH thought a particular issue was of utmost importance, but using soundbytes, quotes and voting records from Il, pre primary, primary and now GE, we can develop flyers that hit home on those issues showing BO’s true position.
I just seem to think that a sugical and precise campaign in all these areas will ensure that we get our membership numbers up, weave the true narrative of BO and, ultimately, swing the election to McCain so we can see Hillary in 2012.
#343 mzebest on 07.07.08 at 2:32 pm
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It’s a spoof of a news report – not serious. But it is great advertising for us! LOL
that channel 3 news thing is funny. i don’t get if it is a joke or an actual report where they think a ticket named nobama/puma is running? if it isn’t a joke then they don’t get it and don’t realize we want hillary as the candidate…
349
Wanted to add…
He was a part time lecturer; not a professor…
#337 Halligen -
I am trying to research as well, but can not find specific tables.
Although I have found some other information on the tax situation that may be of interest. In addition to my prior post here is a link specifically about seniors.
Apparantly he has flip-flopped on this,too.
RE Air Advertising at Ocean City – We would get exposure to Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Virginia, West Virginia and Pennsylvania – and that is just regularly. I am sure there are other states represented as well.
Great idea MP!
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http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/149152868.html
#325 heysandy——– you have been threatened?… what happened? catching up on a few posts here then going to get some sewing done… I am in Montgomery county north of philadelphia… i signed up to distribute the posters…
#350 bmw60 on 07.07.08 at 2:39 pm
great letter!!! i love it, so clear and concise and thoughtful… grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrowl
#278jbjd : If you wish to read the full text of Tom Buffenbarger’s speech in Ohio, go to the International Association of Machinist’s web site at http://www.goiam.org
When you get there, go to the Read past i Mail button.
Go to Archive of February 21, 2008. The speech is worth reading in full. I also proudly add here that Buffenbarger and the IAM did not roll over to Obama.
This union is withholding their support. Buffenbarger’s
speech is a classic speech, the likes of which you will not have heard in quite a while! I say proudly because my father represented a local of that union in New Orleans for 30+years. Buffenbarger still knows the difference between a “scab” (an old time union term for anyone, including politicians who turn on trade unions)
and Mr. Change artist Barack.
Firebell
ALL THE REASONS TO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!
Backstage visit? My, my. Have you made your list yet?
How are you doing on ACT II. Haven’t heard anything lately.
Counterterrorism – such a long word. I’m going to be talking to our school police officer who has a wide range of training. Want to get some tips on what behavior not to exhibit!!!!! for all PUMAs. Our local training has taken place in our middle school. Have been in the building working unaware that training was going to happen. What a surprise! They want to unexpected to happen so they can have a realistic scene. Talk about scary when I’m faced with guys and gals with their guns and rubber bullets. They told me to stay there and be a hostage. Gives them something to do. Needless to say, I didn’t get a whole lot of work done.
#330 alohapuma
As it stands, I’m not planning to go to Denver. I considered it, but that’s “hell week” for me. It’s the week before a big conference that I teach and exhibit at, and it’s always a scramble to get everything done in time.
#338— Visitor… i suppose you could go to donedems.com and read their manifesto… perhaps it will bring a bit of enlightenment to why we are here and what it is all about… also go to the “Need Reasons” tab there too…
If I’m called back to work in late August, I won’t be going to Denver. I just have to wait and see what happens in the employment line before I make any plans.
#326 Anna7000 on 07.07.08 at 2:16 pm
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Wow! All I can say is wow! This is just so surreal, this feeling that the Party has been taken over by a bunch of rude, arrogant, in your face, nitwits who think that we’ll all just shut up and fall in line if they tell us to.
Sorry you had to go through that, but am glad you did brave it and shared the results with us. Now others will know what to expect if they call and may be better prepared for the nastiness that seems to reign there in the D%@# Nitwit Center (DNC) of late. And that’s my ‘nice’ term for them of late.
Haven’t had a chance to read very many of the posts here today … but did get a chance to respond to a guest on NHPR’s Laura Knoy Exchange radio show this morning … The guest was Jennifer Donahue, Political Director and Project Citizen Program Coordinator for the New Hampshire Institute of Politics.
I just happened to turn on NHPR when I heard this Jennifer Donahue say something about how women are beyond needing a woman to represent them in politics … that’s why the disgruntled Clinton supporters will get over it and get behind Obama … I couldn’t believe my ears … so I got right on the phone and called the show, and got on … I pretty much said that it was elitist (nicest word I could come up with so quickly!) for Donohue to say that “women are beyond” (her words exactly!) needing a woman to represent them.
I then pretty much went on to say that …
More than half of the voters are women and we have never been represented by a Woman in the White House.
And I let Knoy know that I totally disagreed with Donohue’s statement that Hillary Supporters will “get over it” and vote for Obama … I said to tell that to all the members of PUMA PAC, 18 Million Voices, and Just Say No Deal, and all the others. (I was determined to get the names of some these protest groups in!)
I told Laura Knoy that Jennifer Donohue just doesn’t “get it” … It is not just Obama that that Hillary supporters oppose … it is the sexism and double standards that were used by the media to (s)elect Obama, and how the DNC and the Obama campaign just stood by while the media and Obama supporters trashed my candidate.
I told Laura Knoy how I was a life-long Democrat, and how proud I used to be of my Democratic Party. And now, as a result of the unfair primary election tactics, the biased media, and the sexist attacks used during the primary, that I was no longer a liberal, or progressive Democrat … That I am now a Radical Democrat, that this election radicalized me, and I will no longer support a sexist Democratic Party … and will not vote for the candidate that was not elected but selected by the spineless DNC and the sexist media! (I wish I had spineless!!)
I told Laura Knoy that as a Radical Democrat who could not support the unfair primary election, that I would definitely be casting a protest vote.
Laura Knoy was very open to listening to what I had to stay. And she did say that she knew about PUMA … that it meant Party Unity My “bleep” … her words … I told it’s official name “People United, etc. to give it legitimacy to Laura and to NHPR’s skeptic biased listeners.
I didn’t get a chance to listen to the entire response … but the guests did acknowledge that yeah, there are some really disgruntled Hillary supporters out there! Oh Really?????? Do tell !!!
Another issue: To Henry, RAFREE, CJV, and to the person who gave me a very thoughtful analysis, I am way behind on my blogging … many thanks to all the people who responded to my requests for arguments against the argument that Democrats had to vote for Obama because of Roe v. Wade … I just want you to know how much I appreciated the very helpful info. I will make sure to post some followup on it!!! Upshot of the advice … don’t be another victim, and be held hostage to the Democratic candidate just because of Roe v. Wade!
#357 Msbin
TAXES
Thanks for the info. Watch for ontherocks later today after work and try to find the source for the information posted on #2. In the meantime, I’m going to take the Tax Center info from Brookings Institute and see what I can use for a letter to the editor.
gee, what a suprise……read below…..
Rendell, who plans to campaign on Obama’s behalf and raise money for him, said tonight’s event in Philadelphia is a joint fundraiser for Obama and the cash-strapped Democratic National Committee.
But in a sign of the urgency to raise campaign cash, Rendell said Obama didn’t want to reschedule tonight’s fundraiser, even though the governor warned him that many Philadelphia donors were headed to the New Jersey shore for the weekend. Rendell said Obama told him: “We don’t need the people. We just need the checks.”
#316 TrishfromCanada on 07.07.08 at 2:06 pm
i am going to buy and read a lot more grisham books now because he and his wife are bad ass in their support and dedication of hillary
yay!!!
MURPHY
My daily thank you to you for all that you are enduring to give us a place to voice our feelings and findings.
Keyword Search: was Obama professor of law
Was Obama a Law Professor?
“Both the Clinton campaign and our comrades at Trailhead are complaining that Barack Obama was, in fact, never a law professor.
Well was he? Sorry Trailhead, but it’s not so clear-cut. To see why requires a quick visit through the mists and mysteries of academic culture.”
Read more…
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/26/was-obama-a-law-professor.aspx
#366 merryjaine on 07.07.08 at 2:51 pm
nice job!!! i am so glad you called right away.
good going, and keep up the grrrrrrrrrrreat work…
I just received my letter from #61 asking for donation. Needless to say I was really angry since I have un-subscribed 4 times to #61 site. I gave them my re-action to their e-mails. sorry I just could not help myself. I’m waiting for the daily growl to get my nerves back on track.
Murphy: I think you should read this,don’t know if someone has mentioned it already…
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/why-do-want-old-ladies-vote-for-obama/
#354 PA4HILL08
Thanks for clarifying. I was concerned it was real and the information was wrong.
I happen to have the DNC as a friend on myspace….this is a bulletin they posted regarding the Convention, I’m not too sure what it means.
Message from Barack Obama Campaign: Open Convention
Body: Friend —
I wanted you to be the first to hear the news.
At the Democratic National Convention next month, we’re going to kick off the general election with an event that opens up the political process the same way we’ve opened it up throughout this campaign.
Barack has made it clear that this is your convention, not his.
On Thursday, August 28th, he’s scheduled to formally accept the Democratic nomination in a speech at the convention hall in front of the assembled delegates.
Instead, Barack will leave the convention hall and join more than 75,000 people for a huge, free, open-air event where he will deliver his acceptance speech to the American people.
It’s going to be an amazing event, and Barack would like you to join him. Free tickets will become available as the date approaches, but we’ve reserved a special place for a few of the people who brought us this far and who continue to drive this campaign.
If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.
Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history.
We’ll follow up with more details on this and other convention activities as we get closer, but please take a moment and pass this note to someone you know who might like to be there.
It will be an event you’ll never forget.
Thank you,
David
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
Keyword Search: was Obama professor of law
Wednesday, December 12, 2007
Barack Obama Is Not a Constitutional Law Professor
“Barack Obama has at least once, uttered the sentence “I was a constitutional law professor.” This has been repeated, uncritically. One of Sully’s correspondents, for example. Mark Kleiman, who really ought to know better, called him a “Con. Law Prof.”
As Powerline noted back in April, this is, shall we say, a bit of puffery. Obama has taught courses in constitutional law, and so in casual conversation his students might well refer to him as “Professor.” But he is listed on the University of Chicago web page as “Senior Lecturer in Law.”
Read more…
http://cheerfuliconoclast.blogspot.com/2007/12/barack-obama-is-not-constitutional-law.html
cya later…
“Obama Expands Party Demolition Down Into State Organizations
by: campskunk
Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 23:33:35 PM EDT
It IS all about him.
Many of you were outraged when Obama gutted the national Democratic Party organizational structure and moved the headquarters to Chicago. I certainly was, especially since I’d been giving the DNC a monthly donation to grow the party in all 50 states, and Obama folded the staff hired with that money into an “elect Obama task force”. Screw the 50 states, it’s all about The One™. Needless to say, I asked for (and received) a refund on this money.
Well, we knew the national party has been parasitized by the Obama phenomena, and Howard Dean is just a hood ornament on the Obama Special. But now look at what’s going on in Iowa, according to the Iowa Independent. ”
Read the rest
http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=173
#366 MERRYJAINE:
That was a great response! You said everything that needed to be said.
Sorry for this long post PUMAS…it’s official. I just received this email a Clinton Volunteer Chair. Get a load of the crap that is spewed out by Dean and co. Makes me sick.
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DEMOCRATS THROW OPEN DOORS OF CONVENTION,
OBAMA TO ACCEPT PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION ON
CLOSING NIGHT OF 2008 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION
IN FRONT OF A CROWD OF MORE THAN 75,000
Final Day of Convention Program to Move to Denver’s INVESCO Field at Mile High
DENVER – Breaking the mold of traditional political Conventions, the Democratic National Convention Committee (DNCC) today announced that Senator Barack Obama will accept the Democratic nomination for President of the United States at Denver’s INVESCO Field at Mile High. INVESCO Field can accommodate more than 75,000 people and will be the site of the 2008 Democratic Convention’s final day of programming on Thursday, August 28, 2008.
“The Democratic Party is nominating a true change candidate this August, and it is only fitting that we make some big changes in how we put on the Convention,” said Governor Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC). “Senator Obama’s candidacy has generated an enormous amount of excitement and interest, not only in the Democratic Party but also in the 2008 Convention. By bringing the last night of the Convention out to the people, we will be able to showcase Barack Obama’s positive, people-centered vision for our country in a big way.”
“Barack Obama’s campaign for change has inspired millions of Americans and brought people into the political process who might never have been involved,” said Convention Co-Chair Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius. “This change in the Convention program will allow thousands of first-time participants a chance to take part. I can’t think of a better Convention finale for our nominee who has made reaching out to voters a hallmark of his campaign.”
“When we said we wanted to ‘bring down the walls,’ open up this Convention like never before and truly speak to the American people, we meant it,” said Leah D. Daughtry, CEO of the DNCC. “On August 28, we will offer grassroots Democrats, who have turned out in record numbers this year, the opportunity to witness history shoulder to shoulder with thousands of Americans standing up for the change our country desperately needs.”
“Senator Obama and the DNCC have truly brought the community into the Convention,” said Colorado Governor Bill Ritter, Jr. “This decision will enable thousands of residents from Colorado, the Rocky Mountain West and across the nation to witness history first hand. What a way to fire up our grassroots activists as we head into the fall campaign.”
Primetime Convention activities Monday, August 25 through Wednesday, August 27 will continue to be held at the Pepsi Center. The final day of the Convention on Thursday, August 28, including the nomination acceptance speech of Senator Barack Obama, will be held at INVESCO Field at Mile High, also located in downtown Denver. Daytime Convention events, including meetings of the Democratic caucuses and councils will continue to be held at the Colorado Convention Center.
The DNCC announced today that a special block of “Community” credentials will be reserved for Colorado residents for Thursday night’s program at INVESCO Field. Details about how to sign up and receive a “Community Credential” for the last night of the Convention will be released in the coming weeks.
“This is the type of Convention people will want to experience together with family, friends and neighbors, and we hope this move enables thousands of Americans to come together, experience history and put Senator Obama on the path to victory in November,” Daughtry added.
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I recieved the email from the Obama campaign inviting me to his acceptance speech. This after unsubscribing 3 times in the last 96 hours. I gave them an earful and told them if they contacted me again, I was going to file an harassment charge. This megalomaniac has no boundaries and is a danger to our civil liberties, our country, and, yes, the world. He must be stopped!
Re: Vote in AOL poll
http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/race-shaping-up-as-old-vs-outsider/20080707093109990001
#174 I just donated a$10 to The Denver Group. It’s tough giving money to all these causes but this is a good one. And don’t forget Murphy!
381 heysandy
I have done the same. I filed the one I got today in AOL’s “report spam.”
#261 BY THE LAKE – I LOVE YOUR COMMENTARY – that was too too funny
Anna 7000 – I will have to research it but I thought that I read somewhere maybe realclearpolitics, usapolitics, or rasmussen somewhere that Zobgy was a delegate for the no named one – maybe was just the same last name or something – I was so involved in this that I kept records of each polster by State and which one had the best poll information – I know in WVA – ARG was the best, Kentucky SUSA was the best, Oregon PPP and Survey USA was the best, Maryland – Susa the best – in Missouri – Zogby came the closest – was 49-48 – they showed 47-42 for Obama -
they were the worse in New Jersey – showed a 43-43 tie – they were wrong in California – they showed a 46-40 win for BO – and in Vermont – ARG was the closest -
Just my followup
#381 That’s what happened to me with the DNC, unsubscribed at least 10 times, never got their secret confirmation code, and then called them and told them to get me off their list or I was reporting them to the FCC
NotYourSweetie #37 – agreed on Wexler! As another Floridian, I am so mad at that guy. I met him nearly twenty years ago when I was a lowly bill reader in the Senate. He seemed enthusiastic, full of energy, but apparently he is a sell out.
#276 Anna7000 on 07.07.08 at 1:21 pm
i agree, the best strategy the dnc could do and hillary would be to nominated the non presumptive nominee… that way the repubs would have to start all over again all the while i know hillary well enough to know that she has had a plan to run against mccain this whole time and how to do it… i think this break she has had from campaigning can only help as well in her strategizing against mccain. she would be refreshed and ready to go in august if she is finally nominated. and she would for sure win then cause she would go full bore into the election and work her tail off to win… she has proven to us that she will campaign until the very night of the november election to get those votes. she won’t take any state for granted and she has the best surrogates possible in chelsea and bill with the people, wolfson and mccauliffe with the media.
#176 Where to you ask for the 100 flyers? Can you give me the e-mail as Ijust got back in for a few minutes and was checking in here.
#381 To clarify my post. He must be stopped from becoming the President of our United States of America through lawful, democratic avenues. Didn’t want anyone thinking anything else.
#389 lafyhawkke
flyers@pumapac.org
I just want to say my feet hurt, but I had a lot of fun distributing fliers door to door. Of course, I was too nervous to go up to anyone who looked like they were home (would have helped to have a partner), but I decided it was really important.
So, if anyone is in the State College area, or plans to come for the Arts Festival this weekend, please send me an email so that we can pair up to hand out fliers: hkiara@aol.com.
#376 Lets Get It Started on 07.07.08 at 3:00 pm, WROTE,
[[ I happen to have the DNC as a friend on myspace….this is a bulletin they posted regarding the Convention, I’m not too sure what it means. ]]
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At the Democratic National Convention next month, we’re going to ***kick off*** the general election with an event that opens up the political process the same way we’ve opened it up throughout this campaign.
That is a meaningless statement.
- To kick-off means to START
- And the Convention is the last step in the Primary process.
- Which means, this advertisement is *ONLY* referring to the last event.
- Because the August 28th date is the LAST DAY of the Convention, not the first.
- So we would need to know how he kicked off his campaign? Ans: With a speech and a rally.
- This means this announcement is true to his form and is very ***EVASIVE*** as to day1, 2 and 3 of the Convention.
- It means it should not be believed.
-It means its a commercial to buy tickets and to donate to *his* election.
- It is meaningless to us!!!
Sorry but I couldn’t resist… This guy makes me angrier and angrier by the minute. What lies… what untruth… what BS and spin.
THE BEST KEPT SECRET THIS MONTH -
I received back 9 responses from the superdelegates that I have been communicating with – all of them have either received an email or heard that there were switches over the weekend – but NONE of them can determine who they were and from what State – three will continue and has promised to let me know if they can find the facts and I will let you know —- wonder why this would be spread around if it was not the truth – interesting philosophy.
#391 ladyhawkke
flyers@pumapac.org
I often have typos and transpositions. Still not illiterate, however.
With the economic situation being so dire how can the DNC justify spending all this money on a bigger location just to make one person happy? I don’t think the DNC knows anymore that they are suppose to be there to benefit “the people” not a chosen one. There is no way I would ever vote for this man..
The Kick-Off of the General Election does not begin until there is a legally bonified nominee. And that is done by VOTE. Not by a speech.
regarding the law professor question…
Obama claimed he was a constitutional law professor during one of the debates. The moderator asked both candidates if there was anything they regret. Hillary said something about the war. Obama described his decision to DO NOTHING (a pattern) when the Senate decided to intervene in the situation where the young woman was on life support for many years. Her husband wanted to discontinue and the parent’s fought it.
Close quote by Obama. “As a constitutional law professor, I knew better, but I did nothing to stop it.”
#381
I love getting email from BO. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I usually enjoy telling them off, but this time I sent back: Sure, Let’s Party!
Great ideas from McCain to help the economy while Obama panders to the “black fear voters” saying; “they will say, I have a funny name, they will say I am scary, and did I mention black?”
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/0B8E4DB8-5B0C-459F-97EA-D7B542A78235.htm
Ralph Nader (on C-Span yesterday) predicted that Obama will have many more of his followers defect because of his flip-flops.
pa dem you are a goddess
Hi, I’m back! I had to change my user name from Witchy1, but it’s still me and I’m ready to do what I can. I got my google toolbar back so maybe I won’t have any more problems. My e-mail is the same, so please do send the daily growls. So happy to be back!Blessings, 2Witchy
I rather see people stay home and watch the Convention on C-Span then to buy a ticket to his acceptance speech.
Or to stay home and just watch the happenings inside the Convention Hall at the Pepsi Center; cause this event at the field is geared toward fundraising dollars to beat McCain.
But,
It is not geared for end of the Primary’s Nomination Selection Process!
It’s an arrogant conclusion on his part.
#358 bmw60
Was walking my dog around the corner a couple days ago. There was an Obama08 sign in the window of a home I always pass by, but never knew who lived there. It was put up recently. Anyway … as we passed, a “gentleman” came out of the house, and I politely said: ” I see you’re supporting Barack Obama. Do you truly believe he’s qualified to be our next president?” I was called a white, racist slut, and was told: “I know where you live.” That’s why I can’t distribute the fantastic poster Fred has put together. Things are not open for reasonable debate where I live.
I NOW SCAM ALL OBAMA /DNC EMAILS.
WHO IS PAYING FOR THE 75K EVENT AT BRONCOS STADIUM??
MONIES TO SUPPORT THIS CAMPAIGN SHOULD BE GIVEN TO FEED THE POOR!
heysandy
File a complaint on this person. That is harassment by most state statutes.
Lawn signs are not allowed in my neighborhood, but two Obama signs have been posted. They just thumbed their nose at the HOA rules.
#399 Headclunker – Good somebody has to stay with dnc or we won’t know when they send something. We need to stay informed on their agenda.
#367 Halligan – I will watch for her. Do have to run shortly for a meeting on the road and may not be back for a couple hours, so if you see first, please keep me in loop. I want to use this . I am an Accountant so it will be a positive use for me in discussions with some holdouts. This will make sense to them and be effective. But I want it to be credible.
I think that Obama has a pattern of consistently twisting the truth. I am in academia, and believe me there is no confusing a senior lecturer and a professor. Worlds of difference between them in terms of accomplishment. Of course there are other implications with regard to tenure, stature and prestige. So from the information posted here and in the article linked by Cosmeta, no way no how he is a law professor.
I am reading all of the posts–such enthusiasm and commitment from this group.
BMW60- don’t know if you saw my earlier post about canvassing in Phila. Email me at hillgirl.puma@gmail.com
Gotta go back to work!
Love the flyer I have my eighty year old mother up from FL. so i haven’t been doing much in another week she goes to my sister’s so I’ll get active again I read the blog for about five min a day have no time, and boy is she mad about Hillary not being the nominee.
Okay folks, I emailed the DNC earlier….below is my original email along with one response I received.
From: lakeerie2 [mailto:lakeerie2@alltel.net]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:25 PM
To: donna@brazileassociates.com; mbrewer@mi-democrats.com; martha.fullerclark@leg.state.nh.us; Dawson, Ralph C.; don@fowlercommunications.com; carol@fowlercommunications.com; YRG@co.clark.nv.us; germonda@dnc.org; 855748@gmail.com; griffinassoc1@aol.com; rramirez@alexisherman.com; alicehuffman@sbcglobal.net; thynes@chapman.com; ben.johnson@porternovelli.com; elaine_kamarck@harvard.edu; allan.katz@akerman.com; Eric@rpum.com; david.mcdonald@klgates.com; monapasquil@hotmail.com; mame@thereileygroup.com; mame@thereileygroup.com; james_roosevelt@tufts-health.com; gss1@aol.com; lsmith@aft.org; rmadison@paladincagroup.com; stroschein@nrctv.com; seiusarah@msn.com; eward@ncdot.state.nc.us; jerome@puente-latino.com
Subject: Message to DNC by laws committee members
Dear Members of the DNC by law committee,
It is with great concern that I feel that the DNC has failed the voters in this year’s election process.
A part of me has died inside knowing that small town politics really do span across our great nation.
I never thought I would see the day when such injustice would transpire right before my eyes.
History is in the making. Someday I will have grandchildren who will want to know just what happened to the democratic party.
My response will be “because they didn’t play by the rules, they no longer exist”.
My only suggestion to all of you on the committee is to do what is right for OUR country. Remember, this country does not belong to you exclusively, it belongs to ALL of US.
Debbie XXXXX
PUMA democrat
Hillary or McCain 2008, I will cross those invisible party lines.
Country before party, period.
http://www.blog.pumapac.org read about YOU!
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Ms. XXXXX
The Rules an By-laws Committee (RBC) followed the Rules. All candidates and all the States were aware that a penalty would be imposed for breaking the Rules. Michigan and Florida broke the rules, and Senator Clinton herself noted that the results in Michigan would not count. The RBC ultimately imposed a 50% penalty when it could have kept the 100% penalty in place, and a number of the Members of the Committee who were supporters of Senator Clinton voted for the compromise in recognition that it was fair.
The contest was hard fought, but fair. Most good Democrats will come together to support the progressive domestic and foreign policies that Senator Obama and a Democratic Congress will enact to save us from four more years of Republican destruction and incompetence. I urge you to focus on what is important and do the same.
Ralph Dawson
#406 alohapuma
This is a small town and the officials are “reluctant” to pursue things of this nature. The demographics and environment have changed for the worse in the past 10 years because of economic depression, an elderly population, and county manipuations. It would be his word against mine, and, believe me, he would certainly retaliate. If I was by myself, I would consider it. But I have my ailing, elderly mother to think about. She is already concerned that I’m involved in PUMA, but I must stand up for what I believe in, although covertly, out of necessity. I thank you for your kind reply.
#412 TYPO County manipulations
There has been a lot of talk on this site saying that there will not be a roll call vote. Is that just conjecture on our part or have there been statements out of the DNC or Obama Campaign (they seem to be one and the same now) saying they will by pass a roll call? Fill me in folks, refer me to articles if possible.
Thanks
lol- I am beginning think he is actually a Republican plant! (FISA, Iraq – now Roe v Wade????)
I am sure this has already been addressed…. but this is something else to share with people- just in case….
Here is his interview from Relevant Magazine (evangelical magazine….) scroll down to the questions on abortion…..This has become so crazy that I have decided that all I can do is laugh at this election….. read it and weep (or laugh- or both).
Maybe he just knows he can count on women voters so he just needs to do whatever he has to to win Republicans…..
http://www.relevantmagazine.com/life_article.php?id=7591
Here is the quote to look for:
Strang: Based on emails we received, another issue of deep importance to our readers is a candidate’s stance on abortion. We largely know your platform, but there seems to be some real confusion about your position on third-trimester and partial-birth abortions. Can you clarify your stance for us?
Obama: I absolutely can, so please don’t believe the emails. I have repeatedly said that I think it’s entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don’t think that “mental distress” qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term. Otherwise, as long as there is such a medical exception in place, I think we can prohibit late-term abortions.
Hiya Pumas…was just on a blues artist site http://www.tabbenoit.com you might want to read it…done the page on left where it says
New Orleans musicians to kick off Democratic convention
#30 cosmeta According to section VI of your article as long as Hillary dances to bb’s tune for now she can actively pursue the nomination at the convention is the way I read it. Pelosi can’t say she doesn’t fit ANY of the criteria!
#2 ontherocks: This tax cut information is gold.
Where did you get it from? I was wondering if they had also done a tax comparison between Clinton and Obama. It would be great to have a side by side tax comparison of all 3 candidates.
alohapuma: Awww, thanks.
Fox reports that at about 4:00 P. M. EST there will be a report about Hillraisers.
mcr 419 i’m anxious to see that
I just e-mailed Howard Dean to let him know that Mile High may be sufficient for a celebration if what’s his name is the nominee but in case it’s Senator Clinton they really ought to have a larger facility reserved for PUMA etc. The convention hasn’t started and the people are not done having their say. We will have the last word!
(CNN) — You can officially scratch off Sen. Jim Webb’s name from the list of Barack Obama’s potential running mates.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/07/webb-says-no-to-being-vp/
MCR #54 I am only about 400 posts behind, reading at work. But wanted to give a complete version of the one they posted at #54. The short version looks like Hillary’s top contributors, about two dozen are holding out supporting *61. But the full article goes on to say that if *61 does not win the election, that all this is being kept track of to discredit Hillary if she tries to run again in 2012. They are already loading their guns against her if they loose.
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/john-mccain/20892/obama-still-faces-stiff-resistance-from-top-clinton-supporters-and-donors-wholl-be-wooed-by-mccain/
Sorry, forgot the link.
A couple of thoughts on the posted information I’ve read today. First — the reason it might be difficult to find out the names of the delegates that will be backing Clinton is maybe — just maybe — they need to keep this under raps to avoid harrassment from the Obama camp. We all know that Obama will try to thwart and block any pro-hillary supporters, so maybe it’s imperative that they remain annonymous. Just a thought.
Also — on the plan to hold an Obama announcement festival (or whatever he calls it) — wouldn’t it be cool if no one shows up or interest in attending is incredibly low? Can we make that happen? It’s all about media image and he loves to pretend he has a huge amount of followers. So it would be awesome if the crowd is only limited to the DNC people that HAVE to be there. Again… just another thought.
I am reading one of BO’s many solicitations for money for his campaign. I have a migraine, so am a tad foggy at the moment. Let me get this straight: He wants us to send any donations directly to him now (not that I ever would give him a penny). He is refusing the pre-set amount of money from “public campaign financing” — which he originally said he would accept, but is now flip-flopping). Keeping this in mind, the DNC is now just about broke (according to what I am reading at various news websites). So, am I looking at this correctly: Barack is now the one in charge of the DNC? The DNC is just a front, with no funds and, I would assume, no power? BO is controling it all now? And he has even picked his venue for his speech to accept the nomination? 75,000 people are coming out to see this? Reminds of me of those old black-and-white newsreels they used to show with cheering masses eagerly listening to Adolf Hitler. Jeeeez!
Just heard – Coming up on Fox news – “a major Clinton donor is starting her own anti-Obama website…why?”
#86 janepa, I am in Schenectady, N.Y.
Pa4Hill08
Let us know what you find out about this Clinton donor’s anti Obama website. ( I seldom watch the news anymore) It’s courageous people like this we need to support.
#427 writer4starz on 07.07.08 at 4:13 pm
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Scary isn’t it.
STEVE GELLER SUES DNC ALLEGING VOTING RIGHTS VIOLATIONS: Don’t know if this has already been posted here. Read it at Clintondems.com, under July7, 2008 diary by everyvotecounts. CHECK IT OUT.
Is it possible to get billboard space on roads coming out of Denver airport? Or a full page ad in Denver newspaper?
hi all Hillraisers on Fox in min. or two
I just received a reply to my response to Nobama telling him I would file harassment charges if the campaign did not quit sending me email after I’ve unsubscribed 3 times. It told me to resend the message through I specific link on his website, evening though they’ve been contacting me through my gmail address … NOT!! Very, very scary!
BIG BROTHER (dictator) IS WATCHING!!
#430 StarDust on 07.07.08 at 4:19 pm
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I usually do not watch either, just have it on in the background right now – some white noise helps me concentrate sometimes. I’ll try to provide details whenever they finally give the report. They just announced it again (teaser)…something about Hillraisers not happy, anti-Obama website, and how if BO were smart, he sure would not ignore them (paraphrased). Maybe, he’s NOT that smart – just ARROGANT. HaHa.
#435 TYPO, again. “even” though they’ve been contacting me through my gmail address.
http://www.together4us.com The site for new batch of
Clinton supporters refusing to back BO per FOX
http://www.together4us.com/
Lady Lynn De Rothschild is the lady behind the new site.
The new website stands for To Get Her 4 Us. Cute
MUST SEE RIGHT NOW
Lady Lynn Rothschild on Fox
#264 Ana 7000
You are right…. I guess I am just so upset about all of this – every time I think it can’t get worse it does….. I have had nightmares of them not having the convention (to save $$) and just making him King of the land…. it is so upsetting…… thank you for keeping me centered.
The Obamas’ “black first” policy on race and whites;
http://politicalcenter.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/07/1643278-the-obamas-black-first-policy-on-race-and-whites
Cavuto acts like he never heard all this discontent before! DUH!
Says to email your opinions to: cavuto@foxnews.
Okay “writers” – lets have at it!
Got to go to my meeting. Good day here at the blog
Keep up the positivity. Back to catch up on hopefully some good news about tax table and 8 SD’s
#429 scrub56! We’re backyard neighbors!
#424 billiejo
With all due respect, who cares if they blame Hillary? They have to have a scapegoat if they lose, and who better than a woman?! Hasn’t that been the point all along? She’s 18,000,000 strong, at least, for 2012. I could give a flying f*ck about that. They are pantywaists, as far s I’m concerned.
#427 WRITER FOR STARZ RE: MIGRAINE
Have had migraines for years (finally getting better due to hormonal changes). Anyway, here’s a great book I highly recommend: HEAL YOUR HEADACHE, by David Buccholz, MD. He’s a John’s Hopkins neurologist who sub-specialty is headache. He’s been beyond kind to me, providing me with long distance guidance after I read his book. I can’t recommend the book enough and if you’re going through perimenopause, hang in there, as many a doctor told me, it gets worse before it gets better, but it really does get better. Meanwhile, beware of rebound headaches from overuse of meds and watch your diet (his book has a very thorough list of potential food triggers). Take care. I really empathize. Shut off your computer right now. Looking at the screen won’t help your pounding head. Rest. (Oh, check out Well patch cooling migraine pads – they’re great for more moderate migraines.) I’ve lived with them for years and I’m a mini-expert by now.
Sorry to everyone else. I know this isn’t related to our movement, but I had to reach out to this poor suffering PUMA.
#405 heysandy
It is a tough job changing people’s minds but you just met one ugly Obama follower. I think we know that his followers are not about to change their minds. Trust me, we tried with all our friends. The thing is to get our message to the people that are undecided, people that are Hillary supporters going to Obama or Hillary supporters not knowing what to do.. and just generally getting them to come to the PUMA blog.
I am going to ship 200 posters to myself in Atlanta.
I don’t have time to engage everyone to discuss/debate.
I plan to distribute them individually without engaging anyone. Sure there will be some that will fall into wrong hands but the upside, we would convinced some to come on aboard.
#420
Lady Lynn De Rothchild, a Hillraiser, was interviewed on Fox. She was very effective in getting our message across.
http://www.together4us.com/
#445 Lady Lynn was elegant! She her message across. Cavuto (thankfully} was not the host. THe host was playing being inquisitive.
Saw Fox News Neil Cavuto show (with substitute host) segment with HillRaiser Lady Lynn de Rothschild. She appeared to be a classy lady, indeed! Thought she was on a roll, talking about the nasty treatment by Obama supporters, especially on blogs, of Hillary supporters, when they broke in for allegedly breaking news on what caused the Obama campaign plane to have mechanical difficulties.
Would like to see more, but in essence the Lady said they’re not donating to Obama.
Hitler Rally; Delegate Hostages & Almost The JFK Speech
On August 28, 2008, the delegates and super delegates of the Democrat Party will be in attendance at the Pepsi Center in Denver where they will cast their votes to select their party’s candidate for President. Over the shoulder of those delegates will be 76,000 gangsters ready to RIOT, if the unqualified one is not the nominee.
read the rest
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Webb says no to being VP
You can officially scratch off Sen. Jim Webb’s name from the list of Barack Obama’s potential running mates.
The freshmen senator from Virginia and onetime Republican said unequivocally Monday he does not want to be the Illinois senator’s No. 2.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/07/webb-says-no-to-being-vp/#comment-1333575
YEAH!! He is too good for Obama!!!!
Ok, Pumas this is a summary of the Fox ‘disgrunteld’ Hillraiser interview:
Lady Lynn de Rothschild (sp?) is one of many Hillraisers (large donators for Clinton). She is starting a website called togetherforus.com.
The basis of their ‘not falling in line’ – 18 million voters did not vote for BO, and they cannot be forgotten. (sounds like Hhillary speech)
BO does not have a mandate because he did not win the popular vote. Got most of his delegates/votes from caucuses which represent only 3% of people who voted.
Two dozen Hillraisers are to meet with the McCain camp. Lady Rothschild believes in country before Party.
They believe at Pelosi and Dean had chosen BO.
Lady Rothschild has been attacked in ‘nasty’ ways by BO supporters on various blogs and moveon.org for speaking out about McCain.
Many of these Hillraisers are in horror at the way the DP conducted the primary election.
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This all sounds quite a bit like what we’ve all been saying on here all along!
Good to know that some of the ‘money people’ are not falling line as DNC and BO hasd hoped. LOL
#450
This group is supposed to meet w/ McCain Supporters. More later.
Anna7000 #448: Thanks so much for the advice. My problems are sinus related. However, I promise to follow your suggestions. Sorry you have these problems, too. I tell you, though, this whole Obama nightmare is enough to give anyone a bad headache! Turning off the computer right now. Keep up the good fight, PUMAs!
Webb…..great! Another rejection of the egomaniac.
Oops! #454 wrong edress. Should be
http://www.together4us.com/
email’s back.
catching up now.
#454
good, thank god¡¡¡¡¡
we start having a bit of common sense(the least common of all the senses)
#454 PA4Hill08 and Present PUMAs
We need to get these people on our site instead of having them start new sites.
Any ideas?
I agree that something strange is happening with the DNC and it being broke. Decided to get expensive offices for DNC/check. Thought *61 was the golden goose and spending was unlimited/ check. Lots of Hillary supporters are thumbing their noses at the DNCs requests for money/ check. Well that would seem as though *61 should hold the corination in a pup tent……..but oh no, he decides to put it in a bigger place, and his dream of going green at the convention is another miss. He told them food had to be certain colors, but the venders are running away from him.
This guy makes big plans with no money to back it up. Wonder how he is going to deal with the national debt? Oh yea, rebates for all……………this guy can only appeal to the innocent young voters because they still believe in Spiderman and don’t know he is full of hot air.
Thanks Pa4Hill and IndyPUMA
for the web link
I’ve been there and posted that(oh-I mean, been there and done that). This Puma is spreading the disgust far and wide.
#449 Fred
I appreciate the words of encouragement and completely understand your strategy. My dilemma is that, in my immediate environment, it is not just one ugly Obama supporter. I’m sure many may not be able to relate to my specific circumstances, but the waters are not easily navigated in this small town that clings to guns and religion and hates those who are unlike themselves. I’m gone for the evening, dear PUMA pals. Meeting a friend for dinner and a couple much-need beers!
Ooooh. Must be beat up on BO day on Fox! LOL
Now they’re talking about a new controversy surrounding his memoir “Dreams of My Father”.
actually what the party is doing @ the delegates & superdelegates is having them hostaged
$462 I beleive it was the recent NYT article where I read that the DNC is essentially broke and “O has his eye on it…’ and will likely have to take over from his campaign funding.
That being said, we al have a pretty good idea where he plans to chase money, and it’s not the $5 donations either. I am curious about his trip where he plans to look as if he is obtaining so called experience. However, keeping such secrets, would it be possible that he plans to visit some hopeful donors?
#461 Maryland PUMA.
I think it is best to have as many anti-*61 sites as possible, because each site caters for different group of people. Obviously being in a high position as Lady Rothschild, she is better to deal/attract with high profile people of influences.
Here is my response to the request for a donation for BO.
Dear David.
I would like to reiterate that I will NOT now, and NOT in Nov, vote for Obama – who was selected, not elected. Every time I receive a request for money from you, I will send a donation to McCain.
I forgot to put that I signed it Puma democrat.
#461 Maryland PUMA on 07.07.08 at 4:50 pm
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They have a link to JSND on their links, so they seem to know about us.
429 scrubs in Buffalo but family in Oneida and Utica not to far.
#468 MiddleAgeFemale. I like your response! I just sent comments like, “Buzz off!”, “Take a hike!” and I will never vote for Obama. They sent back a spam thank you for all the wonderful things you said to *61, please donate.
469 I love it will use it too if ok with you.
I would love to be a fly on the wall when Bill and our girl talk about their strategy for this election. Wish I knew what they were thinking.
I had written an e-mail to Dr Dobson, and just received this reply:
First is what I wrote to him:
Dear Dr. Dobson,
I hope and pray you will read my e-mail. I have been a die hard Democrat all my life – until now. I can honestly say I am scared to death of what will happen to my family and our country if Senator Obama is elected. He has so much Chicago power behind him that I feel we must do everything in our power to stop him from becoming our next president.
I know you have issues with Senator McCain, as do I. But, I feel between McCain and Obama, McCain wins hands down when it comes to honor and the ability to lead our country in these troubled times.
I have supported Senator Clinton, but can not and will not support Senator Obama.
I hope and pray that y’all will eventually find it in your heart to support Senator McCain, and pray that your parishioners will also.
With thoughts and prayers,
xxxxxxxxx
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Thank you for your e-mail, xxxxx.
We appreciate your taking a moment to share your positive reaction to Dr. Dobson’s recent comments about Senator Barack Obama and the presidential race. It’s important to clarify that he expressed his personal views as a private citizen and was not representing himself as Chairman of Focus on the Family or Focus on the Family Action. Thus, as his statement made clear, it should not be construed as a reflection of the positions of these organizations. In fact, because of IRS regulations, we are not able to respond to your questions and comments directly.
That said, Dr. Dobson feels strongly that religious believers have a crucial role to play in the public square – a perspective which is wholly compatible with a proper understanding of the Constitution and which takes into account the foundational part the Christian faith has played in our nation’s history. It’s good to know that you agree with his assessment.
Moreover, as we see it, pro-family voters must carefully consider the stances held by candidates on the sanctity of human life and other key issues. For more information about the positions espoused by those running for President, we encourage you to visit our Focus Action Candidate Commentary Web page at http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000006338.cfm. You may also find FRC Action’s 2008 Presidential Voter Guide helpful. It can be accessed at http://www.frcaction.org/downloads/EF08B09.pdf.
Also, to ensure you have accurate information about Dr. Dobson’s perspective on Senator McCain’s candidacy, we encourage you to read a statement first printed in _The Wall Street Journal_ on April 2, 2008. It can be accessed at http://www.citizenlink.org/pdfs/statement_on_mccain.pdf.
Thank you again for contacting us, Wanda. Be assured that your comments have been passed along. Please continue to be in prayer for Dr. Dobson, for this ministry, and for our great nation. God’s blessings to you.
Laura Lee
Focus on the Family Action
We have the perfect weapon at our disposal to get the word out about us and it’s so easy.
A good way to build web traffic is to put your link in comments on other sites. This brings curious people to your site to learn about it.
Spread the Puma love around everyone
http://blog.pumapac.org/
Re: Can Obama Lead the Military?
Almost all comments re Obama are negative.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/community/groups/index.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3aa70e3396-6663-4a8d-ba19-e44939d3c44fForum%3aa725552c-bd4a-4a5f-a5b9-a0c96cfae382Discussion%3a6df609ad-25fd-425b-afb2-7cbf4ef6fd7e
heysandy
I understand. I grew up in a similar place. However, I would be sure to document the incident.
#405,,, sandy—- HEY MURPHY maybe you should address this too!!!… I think you should call the police and report the threat… that is awful!!!
Hello PUMAs,
At lunch today I took my post # 2 and printed it on bright paper and started putting them on cars I also added our email address to the flyer. If nothing else maybe people will come and took a look at this great site.
StarDust — absolutely right!
The more concentrated our united effort is the more POWERFUL and EFFECTIVE we will be.
Puma PAC is the Voice of the Voters. Our role is Organizing, Action, and Numbers. If other sites with deeper pockets team up with us for targeted actions, we can change the world.
seriously.
#456 WRITER FOR STARZ RE: MIGRAINE F/U
I would still recommend Buchholz’s book. One thing he addresses is the misconception/misdiagnosis of migraines as being sinus related when, in fact, all headaches can be traced back to the same process in the brain, noting that sinus swelling can just be a part of the overall process of blood vessels swelling. Anyway, won’t go into further detail here, but just want to say, I think the book would still be worth taking a look at. He addresses the whole sinus issue and, by the way, this MD has been listed in America’s Top Doctors, which is the creme de la creme of doctors, for many years running. He is not only considered very expert in the field, but he’s a truly great human being.
I haven’t been on for a day or two, so I don’t know if someone has already put this on the blog. Is it worth a $5 donation to get a front row seat?
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/07/07/the-peoples-convention/
Just a quick checkin. Have been unable to get here to post. Wanted to see what was happening. I love the poster.
I love Texassherry’s suggestion re: Post #2. Lots of friends will really react to it as it hits home. I will print out a poster/flyer as well for distribution.
Hey to all PUMAbuds! I’ll try to get back here soon!! Stay strong! I think the emails we sent out are having an impact as fOX has had on alot of infor re: hillary supporters/Obama & DNC corruption.
Soon fellows
# 419.
My hubby (and some good friends.) did most of the research during his leave break. He got alot of info from each persons site and a few economy sites and did the math.
#405 HEY SANDI RE: ENGAGING OBAMA SUPPORTERS
I’m with Fred. I think it’s a complete waste of time and energy to try to have a political discourse with Obama supporters. Obviously, if someone has gone out of their way to put out a yard sign, they’re a pretty devoted supporter. Why engage them in a debate? They’re not any more likely to change their minds than you are abut to change yours, so, why provoke? Just stay focused and put your precious and finite time and energy to use where it can be most effective.
Very effective!! Well done!! I will definetly use it! Thank you
SANDY, SORRY FOR MISPELLING OUR NAME
Hi gang I just e-mailed Hillary’s campaign and James Carville and asked if they knew about the eight delegates switching to Hillary recently and contact information. You never know, one of them may return my e-mail. If so, I will certainly let you know.
#452 john
Thanks for posting the information on the following article:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/hitler-rally-delegate-hostages-wannabe-jfk-speech-2/m/
The best way to fight this and protect the delegates is to get the outrage of the public behind such a tactic. How do we get the MSM to pick up this story and stop giving Obama a free ride. Enough is enough. This is infuriating.
I love the flyers idea. At last I see so action to try to stop this man from being nominated. What happened with the ads? Does PUMA PAC have a plan to place some ads on TV against Nobama?
I must repeat that we must try to reach out to other Hillary supporters that don’t know of this movement yet. We need to grow stronger very fast. We need to come together against the evil represented by this man. I feel a sense of urgency in this.
#485 utahpuma
I vote no…not worth the $5 which is a fundraiser trick and let the event be empty… if no one shows interest… this will say more than if everyone gets suckered into showing up.
#485 I hope you didn’t fall for it. Only 10 people will be picked and I am SURE they will all have been BIG donors. If you do get picked, be sure to wear your Hillary t-shirt and NoBama pin.
#424 I am absolutely sure that the BObots are keeping track of ever perceived slight by Hillary’s 18 million and when they lose they will blame their loss on Hillary. That is the type of men they are. They will always need a woman to blame. But it won’t matter. When they lose AGAIN this part of the party will be so discredited that they will either be run out of the party or the ineffective party will be left to them and a new powerful party for the real people will form. I am sure glad I don’t live in Denver as it is about to be invaded by a bunch of power hungry thugs. I really think the best way to handle them is to stand back and let them run with their power drunkenness which will continue to alienate voters. Really at this point all McCain needs to do is connect with ordinary people, preferably without putting the MSM in power of his communication, then letting the Obamaites act like themselves and self destruct. As more just plain stupid stuff like that stupid fake Presidential seal comes out folks will just be stand there with their mouths open in disbelief.
How many and Who ….. are rejecting to accept the VP position?
Is it because of really not wanting to lead with the Nobama? OR, because there is something afoot to turn to HILLARY in Denver??
I AM HOPING THE LATTER! SUCH AUDACITY!
Engaging Obamabots
The purpose of engaging opponents in debate is to have a platform for presenting your position. When the Obamabots call me names, they look bad. I just present more of my case. I am not trying to convince the person I am debating, I am just presenting my case. Over and over again.
Stay focused. Say it again. Present the facts. Keep talking. Make your point, not theirs.
I consider one of the main purposes of this pac to be the dissemination of information that is being kept from them for the purpose of exploiting them.
Turn the lights on these cockroaches!
Headclunker
And when you turn on the light they scatter!!
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.
Actually, this has NEVER happened. Not once, not ever. Just because we feel one way about Obama, let’s not go repeating right-wing lies about the “death tax” – repeating right-wing lies is something Obama and his followers do, not us.
Hi Hi! I’ve been reading here for a while but this is my first post.
I am so excited about this REAL movement, I feel like this really WILL be a change that rocks this country, and world!
I registered as a Puma and I’ve been spreading the word about it to several family members. Not sure they will officially join, but they are as committed to NOT seeing the Messiah become our new overlord as you all are!
Murphy, any way we can have a poster with Hillary’s face on it instead of *61. The people that voted for her and are not aware of PUMA may be more likely to read it than one with him on it. Just a thought. I can try making one up if you want.
ontherocks (post #2),
Thank you so much for your informative post about BO’s tax proposals Vs McCain’s. It is a real eye opener! Let’s pass it around. Where did you get all this information?
Some people keep saying that Obama’s and Hillary’s proposals are almost identical. However, this is absolutely not true. I remember, in the PA debate, BO talking about raising the capital gains taxes up to 28%. However, Hillary said she would not raise the capitals gains tax more than 20%, if she raised them at all.
Even though BO says that he wants to help the middle class, his proposals show otherwise. He wants to overtax us on our hard-earned money and investments.
#485 utahpuma on 07.07.08 at 5:29 pm I haven’t been on for a day or two, so I don’t know if someone has already put this on the blog. Is it worth a $5 donation to get a front row seat?
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/07/07/the-peoples-convention/
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I would bet that the people who “win” the front row seats are avid BO supporters. They would never allow one of “us” to have one. It is just a marketing ploy – they are getting desperate. BO is not a rock star.
Engaging Obamabots PS
Many of the most vocal are really just garden variety bullies. They huff and puff and thump their chests and rely on personal attacks because they have no substance to discuss…but they are basically cowards with clay feet. They are living on hot air.
“Elect Obama because Hillary had something (never substantiated) to do Peter Paul seven years ago. ” I just read that one on another blog. The irrational thinking in such mass proportions is one of the things about this election that really has me stymied.
#279 diva2 on 07.07.08 at 1:24 pm The Kennedy’s
Some comments have been made about the Kennedy’s supporting *61. I belIeve I heard ahwile back that Robert Kennedy’s family (or one of the Kennedy’s) actually supports or supported Senator Clinton. If anyone recalls this, maybe we could write them as well and talk to them about our support for Senator Clinton and what the PUMAS are about?
You are correct here – the JFK branch of the Kennedy family supports Obama, the RFK branch supports Hillary.
Violet,
Obama said it himself in one of the debates. A Clinton Presidency would be very different from an Obama Presidency.
I like it from the Gallup Poll:
Convention period could prove crucial in determining the winner
July 7, 2008There have been nine competitive presidential elections since 1948. In these, the candidate leading in Gallup polling in early to mid-July — as Barack Obama is today — won in only three cases
Top 10 answers voters gave to describe candidates
By The Associated Press
The top 10 answers people volunteered when asked to describe presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo! News poll released Monday. Included is the percentage of people who gave each answer. More than one response was allowed.
John McCain:
1. Old, 19 percent
2. Military service, 9 percent
3. Record, qualifications, 8 percent
4. Bush, 7 percent
5. Strength, 7 percent
6. Insider, politician, 7 percent
7. Iraq, terrorism, 6 percent
8. Honest, 5 percent
9. Republican, 5 percent
10. (tie) Moral/good and dishonest, 4 percent
Barack Obama:
1. Outsider, change, 20 percent
2. Lack of experience, 13 percent
3. Dishonest, 9 percent
4. Inspiring, 8 percent
5. Liberal, 6 percent
6, 7 (tie). Obama’s race, young, 6 percent
8. Not likable, 5 percent
9. Intelligent, 4 percent
10. Muslim, 3 percent
The AP-Yahoo! News poll of 1,759 adults was conducted from June 13-23 and had an overall margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points. The poll was conducted over the Internet by Knowledge Networks, which initially contacted people using traditional telephone polling methods and followed with online interviews.
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Polling site: http://news.yahoo.com/polls
#279 diva2:
Robert Kennedy, Jr. was in a campaign ad for Hillary and they used footage of RFK in the ad also. It was a really good ad.
#360 NewOrleansPuma on 07.07.08 at 2:44 pm
RE: Buffenbargers Speech re: Obama
Can you post the link to the PDF, I went in to get it, and the link comes up as moved… (through the Imail portal)
I have to say, that speech is the most memorable one of this election cycle, he lays it all out there in a powerful and beautiful statement. I must admit that when I came across that on Youtube, I cried, watching and listening to him. Why was this not front page news when he made this speech?
Support Ed O’Reilly for US Senate from Massachusetts to replace John Kerry.
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/took-business-trip-to-boston-and-ended.html
I also got the David Plouffe email. Interesting that it was sent to alohapuma. A name I use only here.
Is there a way to get the Denver police department to keep Obama’s thugs in check during the convention to ensure a fair vote from delegates (if they feel protected). I also worry for the safety of PUMAs who will be there protesting.
I hope we can defeat Kerry and Polsie.
Alohapuma that is spooky.
#450
On a similar theme, (Lady Lynn DeRothchild), Amy Siskind just spoke for Hillary on Fox –mostly on sexism.
hi pumas i am confused by the video posted in #81 they are misinformed i think ? i am thrilled just say no deal and puma are getting airtime though lol
i think they need to realize our unknown canidate is hillary
also i donated to hillary sat july 5 and i got a email from 61 today asking for money (never) but it sounds like hes going for broke with his stadium for the convention were he,ll accept the nomination (god)
he makes me sick to my stomach, i pray that the supers reject this fraud of a man and nominate hillary clinton
513 mzebest
I believe the Denver police will be riot-ready.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jun/17/denver-stocks-up-on-pepper-weapon/
#482 ontherocks on 07.07.08 at 5:25 pm Hello PUMAs,
At lunch today I took my post # 2 and printed it on bright paper and started putting them on cars I also added our email address to the flyer. If nothing else maybe people will come and took a look at this great site.
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ontherocks
What was/is your source for the tax information? We need to confirm your source before it can be used as a potential action item for the PAC. Thanks.
#501 – I think there is a flyer with Hillary’s face on it on our action page. If not, email shorttermerpuma@gmail.com. She did one.
Go Hillary!
#499 ALOHAPUMA RE: ANALOGY
I wouldn’t use the kind of analogy you’re using. It’s precisely the kind of image that is suggestive of something that feels racist. People who support Obama have as much right to do so as we have the right not to. Let’s not stoop to suggesting they are rats or cockaroaches or anything else. As a Jew, I am particularly sensitive to this as we were called rats under Hitler.
I know I’ve posted comments similar to this on a few recent blogs. Someone challenged me noting that satire is a very high form of humor, and I couldn’t agree more. But, 1) satire is also in the eyes of the beholder in that what one person thinks is satire, another finds to be outright disrespectful and insulting, and 2) we have such a strong case against Obama on the merits; there’s no need to allow our anger and frustration vent in ways that are base and rude. Let’s stay above the fray.
And finally, let’s always remember what it is like for a newcomer visiting this site. I urge all of us to keep the discourse free of unnecessarily insults. We hated it when it was dished out to Hillary, let’s not dish it out ourselves and feel justified in doing so.
#516 tec1965 on 07.07.08 at 6:07 pm hi pumas i am confused by the video posted in #81 they are misinformed i think ? i am thrilled just say no deal and puma are getting airtime though lol
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It’s a news spoof – not meant to be serious. Try clicking on any of the ‘links’ there – they go nowhere. The entire page is fake. It’s actually quite funny! And free advertising for us!
jane-pa
I posted this a couple days ago, but “they” also hacked my YouTube account and scrubbed ALL my videos. Obama was the subject of only one.
I sent Google and YouTube a complaint, but have heard nadda from either. Not even an autoreply saying they would investigate the matter.
PUMAs — Take the pledge! Sign up at:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election
#378 will13smith on 07.07.08 at 3:03 pm
“Obama Expands Party Demolition Down Into State Organizations
by: campskunk
Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 23:33:35 PM EDT
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wow, if this was big business, we could call this a HOSTILE TAKEOVER…
Anna 7000 – You’re right. I just took off of the other statement and didn’t think. It would be pretty hard to make a case of me being a racist if you know my history. But you’re right, I got a little carried away.
I stand by the bully statements though. I believe a big part of the past three weeks is meant to intimidate.
You know, if this election wasn’t so serious, this kind of foolishness would be laughable:
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/07/win-trip-to-obamas-acceptance-speech-at.html
re #511 thank you pa hill and heidi i am from mass as well and i am glad to hear someone else is running for kerry,s spot because he thinks he has the right to do as he pleases , mass voted for hillary and this a##@hol%$ and ted kennedy endorsed 61 any way i hope the both are thrown out on their arses
” tell a freind about puma today ”
we are getting stronger
dare i say ” beyaaaaaaaaaaaaa ” lol okay maybe not ha ha ha
522
I think if we could stop them at evan one thing ,pressure,torment,illegal registrants or messing with our puter papers,emails or videos. they would think twice. Its getting that one thing though taken care of.Your not alone either from what I hear.
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html
Here’s the link to watch the clip on Fox News that was mentioned earlier. Click on the box, Clinton supporters that won’t back Obama.
#360 NewOrleansPuma
re: IAM not rolling over for BO.My Dad was IAM in Ohio and my brother is a steward with them in Kansas. They are steamed over getting stuck with BO. I am going to check out that speech again.
My response to the Obama request for donations for the location change convention acceptance speech:
‘So you had to get a bigger site to hold Obama’s ego did you? Is there any Democratic party tradition that he is not going to change?’
Seriously, all the Nobama groups might want to get some of those tickets and show up in numbers great enough to have an impact during the show, or better yet, get a bunch of tickets and leave the seats empty.
I havent heard much about his favored house mortage lately. It is being quiet for a reason, can we find out more? Obama is in money trouble his own supporters are backing away, DNC has nothing, Hillary’s supporters are not knuckling and the convention I hear is in trouble money wise. He may have to put in a bundle. Lets check out his house mortage and keep pressure on his money worries.
this thing about lady Rothchild, is this real?
#524 ALOHA
Thanks for being open to my comments. It’s not easy when someone disagrees and I really respect your willingness to be open and self-reflective.
The new AOL straw poll is finaly up http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/07/aol-straw-poll-july-7-14
Pa4
but even though we would like to vote for Ed, it would’nt be possible, I fkor one live in Calif.
TREEPUMA
thats for one
I think all the small groups should merge with the larger groups, that group on fox said they were a group of 2 dozen
new Straw Poll
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/
ROTHCHILD, is one of the most wealthies families in the world, their economic empire started back WWII in Germany in the steel industry
WATCH LADY LYNN (Hillraisers)
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html
Selected vs elected candidate.
New AOL Straw Poll up. Go vote so the map turns red.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/
Anna 7000
That comment comes from living in New York. I had never seen a cockroach before I moved to New York and my first experience was horrific. Anytime the very word is mentioned I re-live that memory.
No. I’m not afraid of being called a racist. As I said my history disproves it, but I can understand how that statement could be misinterpreted on the surface. That would certainly be counter-productive to my efforts. Thanks for pointing it out.
Sometimes my Irish really shows! LOL
Robert Kennedy, Jr. and his sister, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, supported Hillary; Ethel Kennedy (their mother) endorsed Obama.
517 alohapuma
Thanks for the extra information.
Just got my e-mail from Obama campaign for a donation, here is my reply : I have great hopes that Hillary will still be the nom, either way I will never vote for nor suport Obama, one of 18 million I am PUMA, Obama will not win!
I just helped the map turn a little redder
I just called the husband, he is standing duty right now. As soon as he can get back to his office he will send me the links where they got the info. I will post as soon as he gets back to me.
#219 alohapuma, I don’t know haven’t had time to look, maybe some of our other pride family know something.
Your evening laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WtIwzMvPeM&feature=related
antifish: I liked the bubble head he sounded like the ‘goat’ that he is
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/2008/07/mckinney-joins-forces-with-sheehan.html
Have been away from the computer and don’t know if the above was posted here. Cynthia McKinney is helping Cindy Sheehan!
I just got a SECOND David Plouffe e-mail in my real name. After I posted at #512. Looks like they are on to me.
is this guy for real???
i was browsing through MeetUp.com and under the NY BO for President found a “Dinner with Barack Obama” event. It requires a maximum contribution of $33,100 to attend and get a glimpse of his unHolyness….$33,100
oh gee, it was reeeeeal courageous of him to reject public financing….. what a tool
#552 This could just be a coincidence, but I’ve received nothing from the DNC or the Obama campaign for months.
#553 NativeFlower
Correction: Tools have a purpose
sorry, here’s the link if anyone feels like making themselves gag…
http://dfa.meetup.com/1062/calendar/8245730/
Happened to catch Rush today. He said he had left-overs in his fridge longer than BO had been in the Senate before announcing his intent to lead the free world.
Big blowhard makes me chuckle.
First attempt at a PUMA video, hope you all like it.
Please share if you do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT52a_yNDnE
PS have you any idea how significant the Lady de Rothschilds and the other Hillraisers support is? It is awesome news!!!
519 There is a poster with Hillary’s face on it but the photo is pixelated from being increased. That’s cool, I’ make one myself. Thanks.
Trish,
i’m convinced he has some sort of “purpose” behind his farcical candidacy… i am also convinced i want nothing to do with it
#522 i have been messed with 3 times and it is not right. But thats what is happening to a lot of people.
Billie Jo
What do you need? I have the originals from the Action Site.
MarylandPUMA
I guess if the crowned King can have a seperate place for his speech the DNC can pay for our Murphy to give her speech
I just joined today .I did this for my mom. I love Hillary! I will follow her all the way to the ‘White House’
# 518:
Could you please email me at
ontherocks7573@gmail.com
Thank you
But we want one that will hold 3 million
re: 538 thanks just voted and sent the poll results to hannity and colmes
dont be shy
welcome new pumas :jump in and post we want to hear from you
we look forward to hearing from you
#161 I got an e-mail from David Plouffe also asking for money. I put it on my list of “Blocked Senders”
#291 I’d like Katie’s e-mail address. I want to ask her just how much of Hillary’s debt is paid down. We all made such an effort to do this, it would be nice to go on Hillary’s website to see what the balance is.
558 PumaAllie
I think its significant that the major donors are going public with their concerns. They’ve dismissed us as:
Older white women
Working class woman
Sour grapes
Fringe Element
Oh..and Racist
Etc..All to devalue our voices and our concerns.
But when major donors go public and don’t fall in that signals a broader consensus.
***GRAPHICS AND DOCUMENTS FOR PUMA PAC***
Graphics and documents submitted to PUMA PAC for posting and/or use are considered to be an in-kind donation and become the property of PUMA PAC, royalty and license-free. Creators/authors will be credited with the work, but the use of it is restricted to PUMA PAC use or permission from PUMA PAC. Once you ‘give’ us a document or graphic, you relinquish your ownership and can not ask that we cease using it.
Some tips:
If submitting flyers for home printing, be sparing with full color spreads. Printer ink is expensive, which is why most of ours utilize text and small pics.
If submitting flyers for professional printing, sky’s the limit, but try to restrict to a letter or legal size document.
If submitting graphics – please make sure they are in .jpg, .jpeg, .tiff, or .gif, or .bmp format. I can take .psd files, but Murphy can not. Also be sure to CITE the original if it is not a graphic of your creation. Many pics and graphics online are not royalty free and are licensed.
If submitting documents – please submit in WORD or WPD format – we will need to add the logo and legal statement to all documents. I can accept .txt and .rtf too, but they do not allow graphic components.
The kinds of documents you submit are endless – we have business cards (great for leaving with tips and in inconspicuous places), postcards, fliers, pamphlets, brochures, etc. on our Action Site at http://www.pumapacusa.org.
It is OK to use another document for inspiration, but please DON’T revise it and send it to me because you don’t like something about it. I can not post revisions to documents from anyone other than the author, excluding typos and formatting issues.
Graphics and documents should be sent to me at MarylandPUMA@gmail.com with GRAPHIC (Or DOCUMENT) SUBMISSION in the Subject line, a brief description of what it is, and your PUMA username.
Due to the restrictions of being a PAC (527) we MUST be very careful of the way flyers are presented. Anything with the PUMA PAC name or logo must carry legal terminology and be approved by Murphy.
Any questions, please let me know!
Thanks,
MarylandPUMA
Trish…heads up…when Obama loses this election, I heard he’s moving to Canada to become Prime Minister…
PUMAALLIE – Love your video! First attempt looks like a success to me.
Read this on another site somewhere today
“Change you can bereave in”
#392 pa dem
You do us proud !! I am so glad to see that you are out there walking the walk and handing out flyers because it is important. There have been tons of people wanting to do this.
pumaallie….great video. A lot of work huh?
I love that..
“Nancy Pelosi need to phone home.”
I watched her interview with Greta last week. When she says “Barack Obama brings a fresh perspective”, what does that mean??
PumaAllie–Fantastic Video!
#574 alohapuma
yeah it took longer than I expected, but I enjoyed making it.
Next one will be better!
#575….essentially it means he knows nothing and will be easily manipulated by the Washington power brokers…
thanks Hillgirl
got your email and will write back tomorrow.
#572 alohapuma I absolutely agree, this thing is really taking off now, and the DNC will be fools not to take notice…
ah but we already know they are fools… hmm
Puma Allie great job!! Thanks.
Welcome to all new Pumas glad to see ya.
I also received a thank you reply to my comment to stop sending me e-mails since I un-subscribed 4 times already. I also don’t know how they got my name? I am going to report it as spam. Stay safe PUMA’S.
#558 PumaAllie on 07.07.08 at 6:50 pm
RE: Video
Nice!!!!!!!
#543 antifish
Thanks for the poll link – I just voted McCain up by 28+%
I got letter with my real name and I was wondering if it could have come from Hillary site from before??I also got one on my hotmail site thats why I am thinking from Hillarys site.She knew both
alohapuma: Perspective : Art of picturing objects on a flat surface so as to give the appearance of distance. I don’t know about Nancy but I, myself, can picture ‘amoeba brain’ nobama on a flat pier in the middle of the dead sea I would be willing to bet that would be a fresh perspective.
LOl Pookie great perspective
#575 MsBinMD
I like that, “change you can bereave in.”
It would be funny if it wasn’t painfully sad…
I also heard earlier on today (upthread I think)
The Chosen One Was Selected Not Elected
Our Girl has Suspended not Ended.
He who’s middle name (or even initial) can not be mentioned will start imploding even faster soon and we can get this nomination to the rightful candidate… I am still hopeful.
for those who would like to laugh:
While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his bid for the presidency.
The old rancher said, Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked, ‘What is a post turtle’?
The old rancher said, When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.
‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he sure as heck doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place.’
560 PumaAllie – very cool video. Thanks
I just read that McCain and Obama are coming to San Diego next week ? So sad that I am in Atlanta !! I think it would be a great opportunity to fly some banners and have some ground people… Any volunteers from Los Angeles ? We can pay for gas if you can come. San Diego is nice and in the mid 70′s.
SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) — Whether the code word of the day is “patriotism,” “liberation theology” or “working-class voters,” some will continue to cast this presidential election in the tired old paradigm of black and white. But, I’d ask Barack Obama and John McCain to look beyond all that and consider: What can brown do for you?
Ruben Navarrette says that up to 10 million Latinos could cast their votes in the fall election.
The candidates seem eager to find out. Next week, both will come to San Diego to address the 40th annual Conference of the National Council of La Raza, the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization.
Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama differ markedly in their voting records on the live birth of an aborted infant.
As an Illinois state senator, Obama “joined several other Democrats in voting ‘present’ in 2001 and ‘no’ the next year,” reports A.P./CBS News.
During the same two years, as a U.S. Senator, Hillary Clinton joined the 98-0 vote in the U.S. Senate on a 2001 amendment to the Patients Bill of Rights that protected “infants who are born alive.”
In 2002, a House bill that protected infants born alive was passed by unanimous consent in the U.S. Senate — with Sen. Clinton joining the “Yeas” — and was signed into law.
If you think what Karl Rove did to John McCain in South Carolina’s 2000 primary was brutal, just imagine what the GOP will do with Obama’s “present” and “no” votes on “live birth abortion.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00208
#560, Great video! Got more?
#578 alohapuma on 07.07.08 at 7:14 pm I love that..
“Nancy Pelosi need to phone home.”
I watched her interview with Greta last week. When she says “Barack Obama brings a fresh perspective”, what does that mean??
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Reminds me of a deodorant add. LOL
Thanks to all the NYC/NJ Pumas who answered the call over the weekend!
Now looking for MIAMI AREA Puma PAC members and friends. This is an exciting opportunity to help spread the Puma message. Please email me ASAP if you are in the Miami area and are able to attend an exciting and fun event tomorrow evening (tuesday).
Please spread the word and email me right away at murphy@pumapac.org (type “miami” in the subject line)!
Great video Pumaallie. Keep feeding the PUMAS
#574 dmrr
He’d be bored out of his tree in Ottawa. It’s so dead there even the river runs backwards trying to escape.
Hi All,
I just talked to my brother in DC who is a lobbyist (don’t disown me, I don’t control what he does but he does deal with getting student loans for students if that means anything). He has been doing this for several years now so I trust his comments.I wanted to find out the best way to communicate with SD’s based on his experience.
There are two ways to get our message across but both are just about the magnitude about “numbers.”
1. He said that the thing that will make SD’s take notice is to send hundreds/thousands of letters to the targeted people. The more emails/phone calls they receive the more it will make a difference. He said to use some words like ” I know you are undecided (or an Obama supporter but would urge you to switch your vote to Senator Clinton.” My thought then would be to give them reasons why you are making the request.
2. Do the same thing with your local delegates and let them know you are a democrat who has supported them (and/or the party) and urge them to vote for Senator Clinton. If they do not support Senator Clinton then they will not get your support when up for re-election.
NOTE: Important— The best way my brother said to communicate with them is through email and phone. DO NOT send mail through the Post Office. He said when mail is sent that way it goes through a lenghty process of being scanned and reviewed and it may take weeks to get it through to the person. He said it often arrives yellowed and not in very good shape and therefore is not necessarily always read.
Hope this is helpful.
Diva2
Just thought I would send it on to everyone.
#498 HEADCLUNKER
I didn’t realize that Alohapuma was responding to your original comment about cockroaches. Not sure if you read my comment addressed to her, but if not, I think the image is really insulting in a very base way.
TO: ALOHAPUMA
I’m originally from NY. Yeah, the roaches are unbelievable in the buildings! Really gross. It’s a constant battle in one’s apartment! Don’t live in NY anymore and don’t miss the roaches!
#574 dmrr
That is funny but not for Canada I like Canada – but the Chosen One might have a prob I thought you needed a birth certificate to go thru customs….at least that was the case for my husband going thru for a fishing trip a few years back….put I suppose the Chosen One has a way around that – Ya Think? Sorry but I think Canada is a little smarter than our Democratic Party/DNC but then again who isn’t smarter than them besides normal ppl….sorry could not resist
#560 PumaAllie
Loved the video. Will be sending it out to other women.
#602 1of18MilforHill08
You need a passport at customs now, thanks to Homeland Security sticking their nose into Canada
#604 trishfromcanada
Oh did not know that…..well either way the Chosen One would find away around it. Or maybe Howie BeanHead will drive and put the Chosen One in a hiding place.
Fred, That is a stunning poster. Could I buy one to put in my front room window??
I would be proud to display it.
Bonnie
=^..^=
#593 FRED La Raza Conference
“The candidates seem eager to find out. Next week, both will come to San Diego to address the 40th annual Conference of the National Council of La Raza, the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization.”
Where will this be held?
Good opportunity to hand out flyers.
That way they can hear from all 3 of us: McC, BObama,
and PUMA.
590 PumaAllie
Middle name that can not be mentioned?? What did I miss.
remember the passport looky. I read when it happened you could make changes there too. Is this right?We should ask at all there blogs where is BC. They did this to Hillary all the time. Also his home mortgage papers. Did he get a sweetheart deal?
#595 bythelake
I am working on some more, in the meantime there are loads of really good ones on the channel http://youtube.com/pumaalliance
One of the people caught worked for CEO on Obamas staff for campain
#2 ONTHEROCKS.
I posted the tax info you supplied on one of my ongoing “debates” at youtube. The two “o” supporters didn’t say a word. Just slinked away.
Rofl. Powerful argument. Perhaps even a cure to koolaid.
#605 1of18MilforHill08
LOL Bo can crawl through the tunnel drug smugglers built from vancouver to the states.
#405 I know what you mean, I’ve got crazies around me also. I just had to e-mail Murphy back and tell her not to send me the flyers. I’m a senior and I don’t need the aggravation. I’ve got friends who insist on voting for BO. Too scary for me.
#605 trishfromcanada
LOL – I don’t know if the Chosen One could do that he might be more recoginzed there?
Not sure how up to date this chart of delegates is but check it out;
http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/
#615 1of18MilforHill08
He’d fit in well in Ottawa though, its a boys club. ok ok I am so not going to finish the rest of my thought … lol laughing to myself
#608 MsBinMD To be honest I don’t tend to go around saying BO’s middle name, but it does kind of grate when if anyone says BHO or Barack Hussein Obama then his supporters assume that it is worthy of a negative comment, like I have seen on many sites. It is his middle name so he should own it or should have changed it?
MISSION STATEMENT
http://www.together4us.com/mission.html
Lady de Rothschild, Hillraisers new website
“This website is committed to providing a lasting virtual community for all supporters of Hillary Clinton. For 18 million voters, Hillary Clinton is a great beacon of hope. She has spent a life-time working to make our country fairer, stronger and more diverse. Whatever she chooses to do in the coming months, and years, the mission of this website is to keep her supporters together. http://www.together4us.com is dedicated to giving her supporters a place to express their hopes for the Democratic Party, for the United States of America and for the Clinton family. http://www.together4us.com does not advocate any particular course of action for Hillary Clinton’s supporters in this Presidential campaign. Indeed, we understand that some will work to elect Barack Obama but that others will make different choices. Nevertheless, we must stay together in our long term commitment to the ideals and principles that Hillary Clinton has spent a lifetime promoting. http://www.together4us.com offers access for activists, funders, students, policy-makers and ordinary people to come together to help each other. Godspeed.”
http://www.together4us.com
Redirected from,
http://www.togetherforus.com
Note: I just used their email form because her button links are still not working.
Anyway I think his supporters are too precious about many things. They keep calling racism all the time and it takes away from the meaning of true racism. (like the boy who cried wolf, on his behalf) That does annoy me because I hate racism and I really think many times when they say it they are undermining it where it actually does exist.
#371 Hi cosmeta….here you go. I’m saving pertinent information to my desktop quick and easy to find if any pumas have need of it.
“No ‘Professor’ Obama at U. of C.
TAUGHT CLASSES | Political flap over his precise law school title
March 30, 2008
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BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist
WASHINGTON — The University of Chicago released a statement Thursday saying Sen. Barack Obama “served as a professor” in the law school — but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed on Friday.
“He did not hold the title of professor of law,” said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an assistant dean for communications and lecturer in law at the school. ”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/867973,CST-NWS-sweet30.article
# 560 PumaAllie
Hey just watched your video (COOL!)
Hi, I’m going to try one more time. I don’t know why I can’t seem to get a post through. I used to be witchy 1, but I had to change re-join and register twice. For some reason Google has listed me as a troll and I am not one. I first as Witchy 1 in June, then I went to find out, if I could, how much we had raised for her, and found myself listed as a google bot. i had lost my wallet, which had no money, just all my ID and BankCard. I had the number of the card in Google Autofill and didn’t want anyone to have access to that info. So I deleted the darn toolbar. I got it back this morning, but I’ve now rejoined and registered 3 times, and I still end up not being posted. Aside from that, I clicked on a link to a bo site, now I’ve lost access to another group + a letter from That BO fan asking for money. Anyway, now I can’t even get my email to work! So if anyone needs to reach me try itchywa@yahoo.com
Thanks
2Witchy2(Witchy 1)
#620 Puma Rodham Allie
i agree with you 100%
they have already served as a wake up call to many to be aware of how the Race Card is played by some who disgrace the legacy of those who Fought the Good Fight for equality. MLK said let every man woman and child be judged by the content of their character… to me this means everyone, ESPECIALLY a candidate for PoTUS, is fair game…. also ESPECIALLY if that person has such questionable associations with unsavory and offensive people as Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Odinga and so on. MLK’s life’s work was not to give those of any group a free pass but to even the playing field.
AS IT SHOULD BE!
OOPS…that should be witchywa@yahoo.com. And I’m very happy to be back!
2Witchy
PumaAllie -
OK , thank you. No comment since I think I got it!
I think this was recent issue.
If I have a need to totally express myself I’ll jump over to Eds site.
They must be having a field day over there. They have even opened a radio format inviting (O let me see how should I say this) supporters of the opposition to call in so they can “debate”.
Should be interesting if he can manage to operate it.
http://www.together4us.com/index.html
The Together4us group is requesting our signatures.
I was just on the denver post reading about the convention this is a quote from an interview with someone in the fbi.
Earlier in the interview, regarding the possibility of disruptive protests at the convention, Davis said the FBI is looking at “tactics and groups similar to what we’ve seen in conventions in the past and other major meetings” such as “blockage of streets and attempts to disrupt traffic flows, that sort of thing.”
Davis would not say whether undercover FBI agents have joined protests groups or attended their meetings.
here is the link you can find out what is going on at the convention:
http://www.politicswest.com/dnc
#607 DancesWithPumas – Oh, it is only their advisors speaking. See below details and link. I think it would still be worthwhile to go.
Advosors to Presumptive Presidential Nominees John McCain and Barack Obama to Speak at Health Town Hall at the 2008 NCLR Annual Conference in San Diego 07/07/2008
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Senior Policy Advisor to Senator John McCain, and Tom Perez, Obama for America Campaign Representative, are among the experts scheduled to speak at the 2008 National Council of La Raza (NCLR) Annual Conference health town hall titled, “Providing Health Care for All: Making a National Priority Reality,” on Sunday, July 13, 3:30–5:00 p.m.
http://www.nclr.org/content/browse/news/?topic=607
Diva 2 #600 — thanks — I think our planned Actions for this week are going to be EXACTLY on target for what your brother advises!
#606 catsrlove
If you would like a poster or help to pass it around.. subtly or like a sleuth… you can send an email with your address to :flyers@pumapac.org
Indicate how many posters you would like – they are not for sale – but are free
#627 Mcr- why do they ask for our phone number? Who is this for their site or for the letter? I do not like give personal information like that? Has anyone else done this on this site?
Hey all. Something to offer up on the lighter side. I made some revisions so it would fit all genders. You will see where I am heading with this at the end.
~J
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An old country preacher had a teenage son, and it was getting time the boy should give some thought to choosing a profession. (Like an “Uncle” and a protege?)
Like many young men, the boy didn’t really know what he wanted to do, and he didn’t seem too concerned about it. (similar to a community organizer?)
One day, while the boy was away at school, his father (uncle) decided to try an experiment.
He went into the boy’s room and placed on his study table four objects:
a Bible,
a silver dollar,( or a copper image similar to the one poster here yesterday)
a bottle of whisky
and a Playboy magazine (or playgirl)
‘I’ll just hide behind the door,’ the old preacher said to himself, ‘when he/she comes home from school this afternoon, I’ll see which object he/she picks up.
If it’s the Bible , he’s/she’s going to be a preacher like me and what a blessing that would be! If he/she picks up the dollar (or other coin), he’s/she’s going to be a businessperson, and that would be okay, too. But if he/she picks up the bottle, he’s/she’s going to be a no-good drunkard, and, Lord, what a shame that would be. And worst of all, if he/she picks up that magazine he’s/she’s gonna be a skirt-chasin’ bum.’ (gazing at silhouettes of guys in jeans)
The old man waited anxiously, and soon heard his son’s footsteps as he entered the house whistling and headed for his room.
The boy tossed his books on the bed, and as he turned to leave the room he spotted the objects on the table.
With curiosity in his eye, he walked over to inspect them.
Finally, he/she picked up the Bible and placed it under his arm.
He/she picked up the silver dollar (or copper coin) and dropped it into his pocket.
He /she uncorked the bottle and took a big drink while he/she admired this month’s Centerfold.
‘Lord have mercy,’ the old preacher disgustedly whispered,…………….. ‘He’s/she’s gonna run for Congress!’
Hi PUMAs – got an idea – been thinking about it for a couple of days – needs to be presented – um not sure – anyway – it’s about Donna Brazille stating on CNN (and I was watching) that there is a new Democratic coalition party and that this new party does not need the blue collar voter, the (older) white women voters, Latino voters, etc. – that this new party can win the white house without all of us – 18 million Hillary Clinton voters – now – we need to get this out & talked about – if they don’t need us, then why are they whining about us being republicans, etc – why do they care what we are since they can win without us – does anybody get where I’m goin’ with this? and are there any ideas??
634 Susie1945
1) I’m sorry, but brazilla is just plain delusional.
2) Because they are cheating.
#635 goandersen – I know that – but we need to have CNN & Fox & whatever picking up on the fact that they said they didn’t need us and now all of sudden they do – sorry – I thought this was an important part of why I am no longer a democrat & have become an independent.
PRPLVETTE
I did not put my phone number in either and it still went through.
It wasn’t starred as a requirement
Best ways to get SD’s attention
#630 Murphy
I knew we were going in the same direction but just wanted my brother’s insight. Isn’t this all just so great? Thanks to you for letting us all be here together!
Diva2
Hmm…My pop’s watching Bill O’Reilly and he has the co-founder of Code Pink on his show, stating basically that Obama better stop moving to the center or they will threaten to vote for a third-party candidate.
Ah, I didn’t think his whole campaign would be collapsing this early. I hope the DNC is watching this all carefully.
Hello PUMAS! How about that PUMA POWER!
You know, when you turn on the far left MSNBC station and they are taking precious time to defend Obambie on his flip flopping, that something may be going terribly wrong!!!!!! Yes!!!!
I really have to give FOX News Kudos for having the guts to cover all aspects of this election. I stay in the know because of their great coverage and my fellow PUMAS. Which I must mention are very intelligent and powerful!
PUMA POWER!
Just wanted to say hello. Might be back later tonight.
Off topic but would appreciate any help.
Here is a question emailed to me from a friend researching the birth certificate issue. I am not trying to refocus the topic on going, but would appreciate assistance with links, etc. so I can direct this person to information regarding the following:
“The birth certificate aside, the question is “Was his mother a citizen?”
She gave birth at 16 and it is believed that she had not been in Hawaii for 5 years as is required to become a citizen.”
Thanks for any suggestions.
~J
#637 MsBinMD- Thanks, I won’t either. I always get nervous when they want private info.
#619 I wondered if others were having the same problem. It wouldn’t let me read anything once I signed up except for a silly article about not letting men stand up to p@@.
Weird. I hope the rest of the news articles there are better when it works. Also couldn’t find a contact link.
Hello everyone,
FYI, Hannity (Fox at 9PM) is going to have high level Hillary supporters that will say why they are not backing up Obambi. I heard it on his radio show today. Check it out!
I was just thinking how cool it would be to have a couple of police or security guards with the PUMAs that go to Denver. Police PUMAs….any out there? Should be lots of men left under the bus by *61.
LINK to #2 POST, have at it;
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/7271579
also here in blog;
http://www.reddit.com/info/6n9oc/comments/
Suzie1945 and goanderson-
Brazile p’sses me off too and I agree, she should be held accountable. I heard her say that about working class white women (was it middle-aged white woman?) that night on CNN. I remember her saying how Barry was bringing in so many new young voters and AA voters, that the above demographic was no longer needed.
It is a wonder that they say they don’t need white working women, blue collar voters, Michigan and Florida. Seems to cut out an awful lot of the electorate.
Birth Certificate
#641 Jeremy
Someone had written up a whole thing explaining why *61 may not have been a citizen. I think it was early on this blog. Maybe Murphy might remember where it was at. From the explanation, it appeared he did NOT fall within the citizenship requirements. I will look tomorrow and see if I can find it.
Diva2
REALLY HACKED OFF
I just got so hacked off when I read the AOL article on the GOP convention because of their reference to MLK. It turns out that BO is planning to exploit Reverend King to support his presumptive coronation at the DNC Convention. Reverend Martin Luther King made his “I have a Dream” speach on August 28, 1963 in Washington DC, at the Lincoln Memorial. The article references the DNC convention as the 40th anniversary of that speach. The ignorant press cannot even get the date right. And to think of such a successful, well respected leader likened to that opportunistic empty suit who has exploited those who Reverend King fought so hard for, just makes my blood boil. I cannot believe that the African American community would allow David Axelrod to pick BO for their leader.
#614 ladyhawkke on 07.07.08 at 7:51 pm
#405 I know what you mean, I’ve got crazies around me also. I just had to e-mail Murphy back and tell her not to send me the flyers. I’m a senior and I don’t need the aggravation. I’ve got friends who insist on voting for BO. Too scary for me.
I know what you mean. I am going to just post them up and not enter into discussion unless someone asks. Many *61 act like we are trying to take away their savior. Most of the people I work around have felt the need to try and tell me how they have seen the light with this guy. They think if they keep talking I will admire him too. So trying to talk an *61 supporter into changing is like their trying to change my mind against Hillary. No go. I think flyers are more for the 18 mil that love our girl.
#648
Thanks diva2!
Susie1945 I remember that Brazile comment. I believe she was responding to Paul Begala who had mentioned that the party couldn’t win without blue collar and Latino voters.
Begala, like a good democrat, is now supporting Obama. But it might be worth contacting him. He perhaps could “revisit” Brazile’s comment when discussing why the party is still not united.
#511deadgirlsrise and #531gostruncat: I have written an e-mail to the webmaster . Message on site said that they are rebuilding their site. I have asked the Webmaster to please tell me how to find the full text of the speech. I hope they didn’t take it off completely.
If they have, I am calling Buffenbarger’s office. He is the President of the union and he is the one who gave the speech. Why wasn’t it publicized by the media?
You know the answer, deadgirls rise…why wasn’t a lot publicized that was pro Clinton? why….? We know why.
In addition this speech was delivered in Ohio before the primary there, I think. Too important for the media to publicize.
#560 PumaAllie on 07.07.08 at 6:50 pm
I loved your video! One of my favorites now. Great job!
OB Birth certificate link;
http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
#560 Pumaallie
I loved your video, thanks for shareing
636 SusieT
Sorry, I was listening to McCain’s speech on the economy.
I must have misunderstood you. Are they saying they need us now?
I guess I just didn’t get what you where talking about.
#394 I have not heard anything new this afternoon about the 8 Supers flipping. Has anybody else have any updates to report. I have a question Goalucard4Hill about the supers you requested info from. If they all received an email or heard that there were switches over the weekend then who informed them of this. Is there a problem of releasing this info. Are they being threatened if it’s leaked. This could be a story by itself. If so we need this info out there.
#658 vadaryl
No news on this yet.
Bo criticized moveon.org on Fox earlier today. It will be interesting how moveon.org reaction.
#655 bythelake re: birth certificate
omg, thanks for posting this.
If others haven’t read this yet, the petition for the birth certificate is closed, due to death threats.
#660…It came from an earlier post so need to give credit to John in post #44….I just hunted it down, but thanks. I didn’t know they shut down the petition though, ikes.
#658 vadaryl
It is better to wait to see if a source exists for the 8 endorsers before running off with the info. If the information is false we’ll look foolish and lose credibility for spreading falsehoods.
#662 and others. Thanks and yes, it has been shut down.
Duh!
This is really getting to be a sad state of affairs for Obamabots to threaten people. All that petition was asking for is Obama to be honest….I guess you know now that there will be no honesty from Obama.
Okay, I thought Hannity was going to have Hillary supporters, sorry, it was only Lanny Davis. I am so upset with him, he really bought some Kool-Aid vitamins this weekend and had the whole damm bottle before he went to the show. He said that Obambi personnaly answered all the questions he had about him during the primary, don’t beleive that one people! He even had the nerve to say that we are jumping to the Obambi bandwagon. He needs to flush his nose! He is kissing BIG TIME Obambi’s you know what!
URGENT! Now looking for MIAMI AREA Puma PAC members and friends. This is an exciting opportunity to help spread the Puma message. Please email me ASAP if you are in the Miami area and are able to attend an exciting and fun event tomorrow evening (tuesday).
Please spread the word and email me right away at murphy@pumapac.org (type “miami” in the subject line)!
OMG.. death threats… how did you find that out? I can not believe that… so that is how he would run our country..
I need some proof on the tax quotes . Need to argue it. Thanks
#669 nativegirl
Where did it say death threats?
#658 I agree with you, that’s why I am pushing for some answers to this to put it to bed right away. Also if it’s true then more people will start to believe the statement I heard it on the PUMA blog. Right now they think it’s just another blog rumor.
MURPHY re: Action Center link
Excellent! Can’t miss it now.
TO: Anna7000 Thanks for the suggesting relocating the link.
I’ve been posting the message on blogs, inviting folks to take advantage of our Action Center and resources. I’d been going in aplphabetical order, and somewhere between the E’s and the F’s something went wrong. Now I can’t log on to my accounts and I’ve lost all my bookmarked sites.
This death threat stuff is another story we need facts on before that get’s blamed on the PUMA blog.
Post #661 stated that they shut it down due to death threats.
This is from the site:
Petition Closed
A veiled threat was made against myself and my family which included our home address, so I have decided to close the petition for good. It is truly sad that political discourse in our country has come to this.
For those who signed the petition:
Thank you for your support.
For those whom I have somehow offended:
Please accept my apologies. I have nothing against Barack Obama and sincerely believe that he will do what he thinks is best for this country should he be elected
http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
Any links on the death threat, or the 8 supers or anything else going on today.
link for birth certificate petition being shut down:
http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
sorry I should have posted the # of the comment…things go so fast here
#674 vadaryl
i agree, on the website for the petition it does not state what type of threat.
669 nativegirl on 07.07.08 at 9:29 pm671 TrishfromCanada on 07.07.08 at 9:31 pm
Go to the site. It explains it on the left. http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
This is HOPE? Yeah right!
Right now we need a mainstream media report on the shut down not another blog report.
I was not so enthused about the Birth Certificate stuff because it is kind of a technicality, but when you get that kind of pressure, maybe you are on to something.
Put it on Craigslist.http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites.html
They only let you have one post of the same article per email address, so you cannot go to each board and post it. There are over 300 cities but only 20-30 major cities. If several of us posted several variations of a post, we could cover it.
You need to keep a copy and record because the Obamabots fraudulently flag for deletion, but then you get a notice and can repost. Make sure you check the option for no email.
Post the link of the death threat site and tell the story.
They have no shame…everyday the #61 campaign and his supporters make my choice very clear.
#681 Jeremy
I’ve been there twice, I’ve yet to see a death threat
Sorry if I misspoke, I used the word “death threat”. The correct word is “veiled threat” and it was enough to shut down the petition. Just wanted to clarify.
#683
Most post under POLITICS
Hi All: Glenn Beck is on vacation this week but the guy who is filling in just had a segment about Hillraisers and many other Hillary supporters not voting for BO. They had a blonde woman from DNC answering his questions and she essentially kept saying the usual they will fall in line by November, it was a hard fought race and they are just still getting over their anger at losing. you might want to email the show. Their address is
me@glennbeck.com
Repost:
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/2008/07/raising-money-and-why-its-neccessary.html
How about Greta for her on the record show. This is something if true that belongs on a show like For The Record, such and such was shut down because of a, b and c reason.
#685 TrishfromCanada~ I didn’t post that. Someone was asking for the reason it was closed. I just referred them to visit the site to read the explanation for themself.
#653 NewOrleansPuma on 07.07.08 at 8:58 pm
Here is a bit of the speech, by Tom Buffenbarger. I cried because I finally found someone with the guts to stand up and tell it like it is about The Precious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKJVHjZVD60
I sent the link to Sean Hannity.. hopefully he will look soon.. can someone send it to Greta?
#488 Anna7000
Are you saying I asked for it and deserved to be called a white, racist slut? Or are you saying I’m just plain stupid? We need to engage Obama supporters, as well.
#678 Battle for the Hill on 07.07.08 at 9:33 pm
RE: The petition regarding the Birth Certificate, asking that he show it!!!
I logged in an was not surprised, yet….
whoa whoa whoa what is this, more threats and intimidation against those who question the veracity of the Chosen One???
http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
#685 TrishfromCanada
Thanks Trish for clarifying the post… but still not acceptable. I feel like I am in another country. I lived in a 3rd world country for 4 years.. I have seen people get killed for their beliefs.. this is not who we are.
I looked over the birth certificate site this morning, it was detailed and impressive.
I would really like to know who, what, when, where and how NONAME can accomplish getting these sites down.
And let’s not forget the all important WHY? Afraid of something? Hiding something. My gut says YES!
#695 scary what lengths some people will go to, huh?
Am trying to go to blog radio to listen to last night’s program. Used to go to the Action Center and use the link there. Now when I click on the link to the Action Center, I get a blank page.
Pumas…attention!
If there is to be any semblance of an organized PUMA at the Denver Convention please be aware that the Obama campaign,the Media and the Democratic hierarchy will do their best to portray you to the American public as a group of strange,menacing,Un-American racist misfits.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to intentionally provoke fights and battles between Obama and PUMA people at the Convention and broadcast it over the airwaves using “Wag the Dog” type trickery to blame the PUMAS – make the PUMAS look like a group of Nazis thugs.
The Obama people could very well resort to classical fascistic tactics employing “agent provocatuers” and “spies” to disrupt and “spin” convention coverage their way to evoke sympathy and support… I believe with the help of the Media they will do anything… everything..to discredit and smear anyone who dares criticize or oppose Obama..
Please note..our role at the Denver Convention will be a very difficult and provocative one ..our presence there will not be welcome by the Democratic Party establishment.
PUMAS we have a few months left to consider all these things..please let us be wise..
#566 Dalejr – welcome to the site to you and your Mother – and YES you will see Hillary CLinton in the White House.
#691 Jeremy
You’re correct I referenced the last name that showed the link. I should have referenced the link. My apologies to you
I have not watched MSNBC’s Hardball for months but tonight I flipped on the beginning and did I notice a little change in their reporting. Were they going a little negative against Obama or was I hearing things and misunderstood their reporting.
I’m shocked!
I went to the site “Birth Certificate now” and is closed down.
PUMAs we have a problem!
I”ve been pushing on every single site that is NObama for the controversy about his birth place and legal verification of the Hawaii bc.
If there are death threats, our democracy is in trouble!
#703 vadaryl
See some of the posts from earlier today about the same thing.
We all will be ‘suprised’ to see what nobama has in his closets. I will be soooooo glad when the Republican’s bring this out . I just wish they would hurry up. Nobama is a rat and he is dangerous, he is evil, and the one’s that have put him up on that post are worse because they are his mentor’s.
#689 goandersen
Thanks for resposting, have to appreciate how Bo says he’s not there to influence the convention, or negotiate, whichever word you like.
#702~No problem Trish. We are on the same page.
#699
Re: Action Center
Tried also, the whole Action Center site is down. Murphy??
#705 I saw those posts this morning and then Hardball, is there something in the air going on at MSNBC. If they start flipping, then PUMA has a new voice and should start getting their voices heard on that network.
I sent an email to the administrator from the birth certificate website and gave him support for the website and sympathy for the scare.. but I told him that others will continue with this battle, he needs to stay safe. Sorry if this was discussed earlier.. I just got on.
Interesting information of the religion of obama… hmmm so he’s wasn’t a muslim huh?
http://barackobamawasamuslim.blogspot.com/
Thinly veiled threats? Im not surprised considering some of the stories that have been posted here. Thugs.
As to MNSBC, they are only receiving 13% of advertising dollars being spent on cable news programs. CNN gets 40% Fox gets 47%. No wonder they are beginning to see the light.
And I still need some proof I can refence for the tax post (#2 on the rocks)
Tried also, the whole Action Center site is down. Murphy??
709 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.07.08 at 9:53 pm
Verified. It just redirects you to here or gives Maryland Pumas addy. I think they may be updating something Muchado. But we need to stay vigilant.
~J
I don’t know if anyone has posted this link yet… I haven’t seen it here yet.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108676/July-Leader-Lost-Last-Competitive-US-Elections.aspx
Gallup article says the candidate who was leading in July in “competitive” races, LOST the popular vote in six out of nine elections! Interesting! Since this election is definitely in the “competitive” category, that means O’s early lead is virtually meaningless. But then we kind of knew that already. But it’s cool to see it borne out by statistics from the leading poll organization!
#714 Jeremy on 07.07.08 at 10:01 pm
I see that link to Maryland Pumas. It wasn’t there at first. As long as we aren’t being shut down
I can see Fox’s Murdouch getting on the Obama express if Obama starts to run his ads on FOX and MSNBC flips since he may leave them in the dust.
#714 Jeremy – Do you think we could get the big Puma to campaign for us? I just watched us lose
Was Kerry in the lead at this time 4 years ago?
#709 MuchAdoAboutSomething
Murphy said earlier today, the isp for the webserver is going through updates or repairs.
#720 – Thanks Trish. I don’t know what we would do without you
#560 PumaAllie- Your video is excellent!! Great job…wish I could learn to do that…did it take you long? How did you learn lol….I am nosy…I wanna learn
looking for puma/no deal members living in missouri or kansas! we have meet ups scheduled over the next couple of weeks, and would love to see you there! we’re working on getting folks to denver and planning events at home. visit our website http://hrclinton.meetup.com/127/
thanks!
googling this subject, I happened upon this conversation…
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/10/the-buzz-about-baracks-birth-certificate/
#719 vadaryl… yes. It was Kerry 51-44% over Bush 4 years ago July.
716 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.07.08 at 10:03 pm
Murphy has made a couple of post about some event taking place in Miami and needed PUMAs in the area for quick action. If you go upthread to mid 300s, you will see her post. Have some friends in from out of town. After I picked them up at Hobby, I told them that I had to show them something before we ate. Guess where I took them? Out came the cameras. These guys are from Missouri and well…I never heard “Show Me” translated into comments. They said if that were in their part of Missouri, it would be gone by now.
Okay all, have at this link quickly before it disappears to….be smart, screen save!
http://photobucket.com/images/birth%20certificate%20obama/
#418 Taffy on 07.07.08 at 3:51 pm, WROTE,
[[ #30 cosmeta According to section VI of your article as long as Hillary dances to bb’s tune for now she can actively pursue the nomination at the convention is the way I read it. Pelosi can’t say she doesn’t fit ANY of the criteria! ]]
To tell you the truth, I haven’t had a chance to read it yet. I can’t open a PDF file on this computer which still has Win98. For me to open and read it I have go to an alternate pc where I have XP installed, download it and then email it to myself so I can use my Adobe to read it on this machine.
Maybe later…
Or tomorrow…
But I trust your judgement.
Here is a copy of the letter I sent to one of the DNC committee members this morning along with his response.
You can see by his response that he has no class. This is the kind of people who are on the by laws committee. Must have hit a nerve! Gonna hit another one in a bit to him!
——-Original Message——-
From: Ben Johnson
Date: 7/7/2008 9:36:34 PM
To: lakeerie2
Subject: RE: Message to DNC by laws committee members
When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.
—–Original Message—–
From: lakeerie2 [mailto:lakeerie2@alltel.net]
Sent: Mon 7/7/2008 12:25 PM
To: donna@brazileassociates.com; mbrewer@mi-democrats.com; martha.fullerclark@leg.state.nh.us; rcdawson@fulbright.com; don@fowlercommunications.com; carol@fowlercommunications.com; YRG@co.clark.nv.us; germonda@dnc.org; 855748@gmail.com; griffinassoc1@aol.com; rramirez@alexisherman.com; alicehuffman@sbcglobal.net; thynes@chapman.com; Ben Johnson; elaine_kamarck@harvard.edu; allan.katz@akerman.com; Eric@rpum.com; david.mcdonald@klgates.com; monapasquil@hotmail.com; mame@thereileygroup.com; mame@thereileygroup.com; james_roosevelt@tufts-health.com; gss1@aol.com; lsmith@aft.org; rmadison@paladincagroup.com; stroschein@nrctv.com; seiusarah@msn.com; eward@ncdot.state.nc.us; jerome@puente-latino.com
Subject: Message to DNC by laws committee members
Dear Members of the DNC by law committee,
It is with great concern that I feel that the DNC has failed the voters in
this year’s election process.
A part of me has died inside knowing that small town politics really do span
across our great nation.
I never thought I would see the day when such injustice would transpire
right before my eyes.
History is in the making. Someday I will have grandchildren who will want
to know just what happened to the democratic party.
My response will be “because they didn’t play by the rules, they no longer
exist”.
My only suggestion to all of you on the committee is to do what is right for
OUR country. Remember, this country does not belong to you exclusively, it
belongs to ALL of US.
Debbie XXXXX
PUMA democrat
Hillary or McCain 2008, I will cross those invisible party lines.
Country before party, period.
http://www.blog.pumapac.org read about YOU!
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Website re: *61′s birth certificate
#655 bythelake Take a look at the site, the guy was threatened personally so he has closed the petiition.
diva2
712-BMW60
Got to get this book! This guy is a wealth of information.
Maybe we should blog to him the BC site closing.
#726 Jeremy -enjoy your company. I can imagine the traslation of “show me”!!!!
721
me either.
#729 Lol. Seems the pressure is getting to them.
No political activist sitting on a committee of any type would send something like that out if they had the capacity to think.
Poor babys.
732 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.07.08 at 10:17 pm
Let there be not limit to that imagination and it still would not give it due justice. Of course, I wasn’t telling them to chill either…thanks, going to be a long week
#729 You wrote your email to the Members of the DNC by law committee and got back that response from one of them. I don’t understand his response to you? Please let us know if you follow up an email back to him and what you said and if he responds back.
Here’s my response to Ben Johnson at Ben.Johnson@porternovelli.com
Must be you drank the chocolate milk. You may not give a croc but 18 million voters do. It’s idiots like you who sent us democrats looking for higher ground.
It will RAIN McCAIN!
Have a great evening!
Who is Ben Johnson anyways?
#736, check out the one I received earlier….#412
Ben Johnson is a super, ahem, delegate. Although, I think he is a legend in his own mind.
Just an update for those who were here this morning: I got an e-mail from Murphy. I thanked her in my reply, but I’d like to thank her here too.
I’m sorry I was cranky this morning PUMAs, so thanks for tolerating me. I’ll see y’all in the flip side. Good night.
Okay. I posted this a few threads back. I need to repost.
I fell unloved. Nobody sends me nasty e-mails or threatening letters. Its not fair. So to all you kool aid sippin geniuses out there:
Snowtiger007pp @yahoo.com. (dont forget to add the pp)
I swear if it wasn’t for the vulgar cretins on the blogs I would have no contact with the true face of “o”s supporters.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/07/sebelius/
Obama’s “other woman”
VPstakes. Take a look
~J
#742 Snowtiger
You are a brave soul, aren’t you
I’ve read through today’s entire blog looking for a source for #2 above.
This is the kind of info I need to show co-workers, family, and friends — all of whom have been brainwashed by O’s hype. BUT I need to be able to cite a credible source (no offense, but other than this blog). I haven’t found the information anywhere that is listed in #2 above. Can anyone cite the source?
Thanks!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0707byrnejul07,0,2090442.story
Regarding Barack’s cash flow.
#742 snowtiger….lol….oh, I’ll take any I can get. Scrapbooking….straight to the fireplace this winter!
#424 BillieJo on 07.07.08 at 4:10 pm, WROTE,
[[ But the full article goes on to say that if *61 does not win the election, that all this is being kept track of to discredit Hillary if she tries to run again in 2012. They are already loading their guns against her if they loose. ]]
Oh my goodness… What spin…. That article merely says that “google” is keeping track… Well, la de da… anything and everything on the web can be crawled, spidered and yes even stored…. even stuff about BHO.
I never heard anything so ridiculous in my whole life. It’s not only laughable it’s comical to suggest that GOOGLE is going to keep track for them.
Getting back to the article… I can see some DEMS being angry at the Hillary Donor hold outs… but dont think Hillary can be blamed for their actions. But you know politics, given the chance to smear our Hillary BHO backers will; basically because they are all CROOKS.
IMO.
#658 Vadaryl – had three of the sd’s tell me that they had heard it via email from bloggers – and were going to investigate it – but no word yet – will continue to push it with them – this does seem to be very strange though – I haven’t forgotten and will stay on it.
#729 bythelake:
I would forward that email to all the news outlets, papers,blog I would show everyone what the dnc is really made of, that email along with the one from donna brizille, we need to expose them for what they are…haters…If we are writing with our concerns, and being non threatening there is no reason for that kind of response. They are disgraceful….just like this election.
Gee, and I thought the only ones they had to blame were themselves. I must take off my rose colored glasses.
#749, good idea! I will do just that.
Good article..I needn’t say more the title says it all
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/the-object-and-the-phallus/
Pa4Hill, where are you? Where is your Action site? You have worried Pumas out here. Should we start organizing a search party for you and your site?
Does anyone have the media email addresses handy?
743 JEREMY -
Does she iron?
#694 HEYSANDY
Sandy – I’m not saying you deserved to be called a slut. That’s horrible. And I’m not saying you’re stupid. That’s equally horrible. I was only giving my perspective that given the finite amount of time and energy we all have to give, I think it’s a waste to expend it on those who are obviously passionate Obama supporters. That’s just my view. But for you and any others who feel it’s worth the time, go for it. For me, it’s just setting myself up for aggravation. Sorry you heard my words in such an negative way. Sometimes words typed on the page can be misinterpreted when we don’t have the benefit of hearing the person’s tone of voice, seeing their face, or reading their body language. (And even when we do have all those other cues, humans still wind up hurting each other, misinterpreting each other’s message, etc.) I think we’ve all got the same goal in terms of the larger picture, here. You seemed so upset, and who wouldn’t be? It was only my 2 cents to suggest that perhaps it’s not worth it to bother having interactions with Obama supporters. That’s all. Are we ok?
Wasw listening to the Harriet Christian radio interview from last night and Will Bower referenced a site to check on how a write in vote for HRC will be counted. Went to the site and did not find the info that Will was talking about, BUT they did have a video of BO and Joe Lieberman in the Senate the day BO alledgedly strongarmed Lieberman into the wall and gave him a talking to. If you’re interested, go to writeinhillary.com and play the video. It explains that when Joe shook BO’s hand, BO would not let go and still holding his hand, led him off the floor of the Senate. If you look at Joe’s arm it does look like Obama is making him go with him out of camera view. Others saw it but apparently no one is talking about it.
#745 Linda, I posted the following LINKS to #2 POST that I found;
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/7271579
also here in blog;
http://www.reddit.com/info/6n9oc/comments/
I have a media list it’s quite large
http://www.rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm
“he” did it!
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/16809360/detail.html
#432 NewOrleansPuma on 07.07.08 at 4:20 pm, WROTE,
[[ STEVE GELLER SUES DNC ALLEGING VOTING RIGHTS VIOLATIONS: Don’t know if this has already been posted here. Read it at Clintondems.com, under July7, 2008 diary by everyvotecounts. CHECK IT OUT. ]]
The url for that article is,
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/geller-sues-dnc-alleging-voting-rights-violations/
-BUT-
Geller’s Lawsuit was filed at the end of May.
He did not win.
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2008/05/geller_files_federal_lawsuit_i.html
Note: If I recall, about 3 Florida lawsuits were filed and Geller’s was the last one I know about… and every one was turned down. Federal judge says, not me jub. DNC can make its own rules.
murphy if you are there I hope you listened to my email last night!!!
#439 IndyPUMA I think we all need to go here:
http://www.together4us.com
and sign in. These are Hillary’s Hillraisers and they have a JustSayNoDeal attitude. I didn’t see the program but, they were on FOX TV today. Hopefully, someone put it on U-Tube for us.
Loved the article in the WSJ today about Hillraisers who aren’t falling in line behind The Obama. MSNBC dismissed it as just a few people and that “we’ll fall in line come November”. These people just don’t get it.
745-LINDA
We have been reserching this all day to find the source.
Been a long day, in and out of here, but I think I remember reading that she was going to ask her husband for the link. That is last I heard.
We did find some other good “monetary” related info while we were researching and it is posted throughout the thread.
I, like you, believe if we can verify, will be very effective to people. In a format evryone can understand. I am waiting to use it myself on a great deal of teetering people.
#439 IndyPUMA I forgot to mention we need to invite them over.
More “on the job training.” This guy is really the NEW Willy Wonka of the 21st Century. “Anything you want me to be…and one more thing…trust me.”
Unbelievable! And for the golden ticket, make sure you read the last paragraph that was put in as a quiet “oh by the way….”
Obama: ‘I have to earn the trust of men and women in uniform.’
Making the case that he would be a better commander in chief for the troops than John McCain is likely one of the toughest arguments Obama has to make. But there is a case for it if Obama talks straight. He’s begun the dialogue, though it will take more than one interview to do it.
The interview in the Military Times with Obama also comes with a short video portion.
“I do not presume that from the day I am sworn in, every single service man or woman suddenly says, ‘This guy knows what he is doing,’” said Obama, a freshman U.S. senator from Illinois, in his most extensive interview to date on a wide range of military issues.
Earning trust, he said, means listening to advice from military people, including top uniformed leaders, combatant commanders and senior noncommissioned officers and petty officers. It also means standing up for the military on critical issues and keeping promises, Obama said….
…Obama said he would not order any “precipitous” withdrawal of combat forces. Instead, he said, his policy is that “we should be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless in getting in.”
“I have always said that as commander in chief, I would seek the advice and counsel of our generals,” Obama said. But, in the end, “it is the job of commander in chief to set the strategy.”…
Also addressed in the interview is the challenge he’ll likely get from the Pentagon on this policy change.
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and this little tidbit was hidden way down at the end of the article. I wonder why????
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Obama is also for an increase in our force structure,