Chillax, Puma PAC and head out to the deck for some ribs and cold beer. We have a BIG week ahead. Be ready to send letters, faxes, and phone calls; to make plans for Denver; and to learn about an AMAZING opportunity we are planning for Puma PAC. This is a friendly and chatty open thread, but feel free to continue discussions from downstairs. Still looking for NYC/NJ Pumas to email me at murphy@pumapac.org. Drop me a line with NYC in the subject line — this is NOT about Denver, but something else.
The good vibes are flowing, folks. Things are pulling together, we’ve stayed united and focused for more than 30 long, consecutive days! This is only the beginning, and it feels like the BEST is ahead of us!
The beer and ribs are free, but don’t forget to drop a few bucks in the Buses to Denver Fund to help defray the cost for Puma PAC members to get there!
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checkout out Eurdora. Might try it.
I’m so tired…
I just had an argument with a NObamabot…for 3 hours
clintonRules- online or in real life?
they were yelling at me but all I heard was “blah blah blah Messiah blah Hope blah blah Change blah Kool aid”
I’m sure all they heard was “Blah Clintons are more experienced blah Won’t vote Nobama blah no change blah no deal blah just give me my coffee please”
#3 luckyann
real life…she was behind the counter at this coffee shop and I made the “mistake” of wearing a Hillary for Pres. shirt…silly me
George Soros Democratic UnderGround …went into the web and brought that up and wow a lot of oeganizations in there. Went all over the place in there. That man hmmmm and womens rights orgs. Sent a couple letters while there.
I may go back later and write a few more.
This link was posted on the early thread but wanted to share that while having my coffee earlier this morning, reading this story, I couldn’t stop smiling!
When will the leadership of the DNC wake up?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/us/politics/06convention.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=todayspaper&adxnnlx=1215377137-LHKd+LzlFVz/dSuDeZLzQQ
I just e-mailed the Governor of MI and thanked her for standing for Hillary and for us. That took courage in light of the fact that she will now be hounded and threatened. Also contributed to the PUMA bus transportation. I am in FL, the disenfranchised state, and in the Treasure Coast of all places. We need a meet up group in this area. West Palm is really too far.
#4 ClintonRules
LOL! I feel your pain.
EWard – left you a message on the other site #272 – thank you so much for helping out with the superdelegate emails – you will be getting more back than that – sent them out three days in a row – first two days they got them – last day some bounced back – all were with AOL account – so don’t know if they changed their addys or if AOL had a system problem…Really do appreciate as usual for all your work -
Alucard Rodham Puma
Murphy, I know how much time and effort you spend on this site and we all appreciate what you do in spite of also having a home life. I don’t know whether you can set up categories like they do at Clintondems.com. For instance, I posted about LaRouche and then everyone who wanted to comment on that did. It makes it easier so you don’t have to read hundreds of posts. I think someone may have mentioned this before, I’m not sure.
#4
About all you can do with Obamobots is draw them out by asking questions like: “why do you feel that way,
what do you think of so and so” and then subtlely ask a few questions ( all the recent changes work well ) and leave them with something to think about. Hopefully they will reconsider their position and check into detox.
SANDIPUMA -
I googled him as well. He’s a real trip, huh?
Think he would be a more compassionate person considering his background. Maybe he just needs anger management classes!
#9 Flowerchild2 The Treasure Coast, is that Port St. Lucie? I’m in Flagler County, between St. Augustine & Daytona Beach. Would love to meet someone of like mind in my area. I can’t talk about this to anyone of my friends, they won’t discuss it because they will just vote for the Party no matter that the empty suit is unqualified. Very frustrating.
re: the nyt article on denver preparations and lack of $ for dnc….
gee, i would’ve been happy to throw some dough their way HAD THEY NOT THROWN MY CANDIDATE UNDER THE BUS.
I’ve had 4 snail mail donation solicitations from the DNC, and two phone calls. each time, I said no dice, you guys blew it.
deal with it, dnc.
#13 mpdamon
Amen.
As I’ve said in past posts… I always like to start with the question. “Do you know how Senator Obama became Senator of Illinois?” If they bite and allow you to explain his beginning through corrupt means and stepping on the rights of others… what can they argue in his favor from that point forward? We have responses for a pattern of similar behavior ever since.
EWard – Trish in Canada is the one that is doing all the updated sd’s email addys – will be in place in Action Center probably tonight or tomorrow –
DO not see the Puma signs on volleyball yet – unless I missed them – will keep on looking.
#18 me either
REPOSTED from Previous Thread:
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#358 cosmeta on 07.06.08 at 4:23 pm
#332 BrooklynNY on 07.06.08 at 4:12 pm, WROTE,
[[ I want to open a separate email acct dedicated to PUMA, election stuff, etc. I’m leaning towards using yahoo or gmail. ]]
Our son and wife use Yahoo and seem to be satisfied with it.
I use my telephone company as my DSL carrier, but then, since I have a few websites, I also use Microsoft Outlook express for setting up MANY Identities. Like what many companies do, like
sales@yourcompanyname.com
billing@yourcompanyname.com
support@yourcompanyname.com
etc
For those master minds running PUMA sites, also consider Mass Emailing programs. For example,
Dynamic Mail Communicator
http://www.dynamicmailcom.com/
It’s rather expensive though
As an alternate, consider Eudora Pro
http://www.eudora.com/
Think one can put in around 2,500 names in an email address book; and also create multiple Personalities. Will also accept long email lists. I have used Eudora for years and I highly recommend it. You just put in your email server provider info the same way you would Microsoft Express… and walla!
RIGHT ON RIGHT !!!!!!
#312 phillyforhillary on 07.06.08 at 3:58 pm
I was canvassing over the weekend (handing out fliers from the action center) and I was surprised how many people don’t realize that Hillary could still be nominated at the convention or realize how many undemocratic things were done to take the nomination from her. When I pointed these things out I got a lot of support. So, I think we should keep reminding people that Hillary can still be nominated at the convention; she would need about 175 superdelegates to vote for her who are either undecided or declared for Obama.
Also, we should point out the fact that Hillary won the popular vote by almost 200,000 votes and that MI and FL were only given half a vote and four elected delegates were taken from Hillary and given to Obama in MI AND THAT HIS CAMPAIGN INSISTED AT THE RULES COMMITTEE MEETING ON MAY 31 THAT MI & FL NOT HAVE FULL VOTING RIGHTS AT THE CONVENTION! These dirty tricks will remind everyone why we are so angry and can’t support Obama. And why we are encouraging superdelegates to nominate Hillary at the convention because the DNC rules purposely make it hard for her to win the nomination despite winning the popular vote!
#2 ClintonRules on 07.06.08 at 4:41 pm, WROTE,
[[ I’m so tired…
I just had an argument with a NObamabot…for 3 hours
]]
Not worth the effort. Next time, may I suggest that you just state your case as intelligently and as convincingly as you can and then just walk away.
Oftentimes people will ponder what is said, hours or even days later.
The point is, you should get them THINKING? So asking questions is an important tool. If they don’t know advice them on the HOW TO of doing a web search.
Then leave!
# 134 PA4HILL08, Keep the graphic
# 278 heysandy, I will march with you in Denver!
# 363 Prplvette: I am going into the bedroom to see if I can spot your daughter!!! You raised her right and she is raising your granddaughter right, you should be proud!!!
One Love
I posted this link downstairs but will post it again here:
http://www.larouchepac.com/
If you have never been to his website, please visit and listen to the video “1932.”Does anyone know how to put this video on U-Tube?
LaRouche is having a wecast on Tuesday, July 22 from 1-4. You can listen in and ask questions and interact.
Also, there is a 24 page dossier on the website “Is George Soros your enemy?” They are distributing 200,000 copies nationwide. The Dem officials won’t have anything to do with him. He does not like Obama and thinks Hillary should be the nominee. I haven’t researched him but it’s worth a look.
#22 cosmeta
I was asking serious questions in a respectable manner. What I find interesting is that everyone else there was agreeing with ME
she was the only one…why do i always get the crazies? lol
I just want to say to those contributing to the bus fund: Thank you from the bottom of my heart, if it were not for you and others like you, I would not be able to go.
This will be one of the highlights of my life, and for that I thank you.
I am so excited to meet new friends and see the faces of those I have talked with. Denver will be a historical event, and to be there to bear witness to it is a dream come true.
Thanks for helping me get to Denver, I will never forget your kindness, never!
I love my Puma family!!!
One Love
People are still commenting on this thread,
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1325160
#21 FEATHERSONWIND- it surprises me daily what people don’t know and what a piss poor job the media has done to inform people.
Of course, had they done their job, perhaps we would not be in this stupid war.
People don’t know who Alice Palmer is, they don’t know that Jr did not vote against the war, they don’t know that he voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill.
It is so sad how uninformed people are and I believe that is why we are where we are today.
I read that article yesterday, about 46% of democrats not planning to vote for Barry. And then I see polls and he is doing well in the polls? WTF?? I keep hoping people are going to wake up before it is too late.
I also agree with an earlier post that said the Republicans aren’t really going to gear up for their attack until after the convention.
Well, I need to spend some time with my family now, although I am addicted to these sites.
Can’t wait to dig in my heels tomorrow and get to work
Save me some BBQ chicken from BO’s spine. I will be back in awhile …been sending letters and now have to go to the store.
Is Trish or Murphy around?
The Wikimonsters are at it again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_United_Means_Action
Hey… I just thought of a great idea as a marketing tool. But it would have to be geared to the graphic designers.
Create a Question and Answer card deck.
Ques: What does change mean?
Ans 1: Moving the DNC from Washington to DC
Ans 2: Selling your SUV and turning down your therostate.
Ans 3: No lobbying… and that means YOU!
Ques: What is BHO’s stance on, ABC
Ans 1:
Ans 2:
Ans 3:
Like that… One question with 3 replies.
Interview 7-3-08 of The Denver Group founders:
The audio on this link is 1 hour and 8 minutes long. It is worth listening to in my opinion. It was sent to me by one of Hillary’s National Delegates who is working hard with other delegates to try to get her name on the roll call.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/breaking-nq-radio-interview-the-denver-group/
#28 GOSUEF4HIL
Don’t worry to much about the polls at this point. First, I think Obama machine is manipulating poll data through media to help secure his nomination. I think he’s afraid. Plus, keep in mind that he’s going down the same path in the polls that Kerry and other’s who lost the GE were showing at this point of the game. Thirdly, if the nomination is secured for Obama — you can bet your ass the Republicans will let loose on his negatives worse then they currently are. They don’t want to give it their best shot before the convention cause they don’t want to go up against Hillary. But you can count that they know what to do to chew him up and spit him out after the convention. They’ll probably depend on the publics short term memory and save the best guns for October, so the worst is fresh in their minds coming into election day.
HEY Maryland ….pumas…..
.
……along with the FACT SHEET flyer
…it would be NICE…. if “MURPHY” would put a site tab under PAGES…
that would list all the top “your tube videos” of…….. Facts about DNC,it was “selection” not elected nominee,the Denver protest march, the % of primaries’ votes vs. caussus % of votes,the filp-flop OBAMA’s already DONE….the birth of BO in ?,ect……
(ON THAT FLYER PUMAS PAC SITE)
Murphy…by the way….I think you’re a hero for this site & your effort & all the PUMAS…
#31 I like the cards. I also think an answer with “all of the above” would work and list all the answers that Obama has given to questions. Such as, “what is Obama’s stance on campaign financing?” Answers are his positions and then “all of the above.” And then there is the “What is change?” question with the answers, “His opinion”, “His mind,” etc.
#26-hey DaddysDarlin-you are very welcome-enjoy yourself and growl for Hillary for me-I’m hoping that Denver is overrun with PUMAs-they may even have to call in the wildlife experts
mpk rodham
#30
Regarding Murphy’s contribution to McCain in 2000. There are many reasons why people chose to contribute and I think that regarding Murphy that subject has been overworked. I have contributed to Nader in 2000, 2004, and 2008. Obviously I don’t expect him to win the office but I believe he is raising issues with which I agree. Will I vote for him in November . . . at this point, I don’t know. I plan to wait to see who McCain chooses for VP before deciding. Our opinions are not stagnant but change with circumstances . . . not as much as Obama’s do though.
RE: TALKING WITH OBAMA SUPPORTERS
RE: TALKING WITH OBAMA SUPPORTERS
Below is a repost of what I wrote yesterday, with some corrections. In the post, I comment sarcastically on CNN’s Bill Schneider’s comments (and some of you posted good responses too), and I was thinking today that maybe writing CNN and Schneider and setting them straight about us might be a good thing since the media has such power to shape perceptions and outcomes in the elections. I have no idea what is the best address to contact CNN and Bill Schneider, though…
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In the CNN article (reported in Murphy’s blog yesterday) which states that 46% of Clinton supporters are not voting for BO, Bill Schneider says this:
“These things always take time to heal… I think Clinton’s supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them… If he doesn’t pick her, a later stage of grief is depression and then acceptance,” Schneider said. “In the end I expect Clinton supporters will accept Obama…”
Oh, OK… so if Hillary is picked to play second fiddle at the foot of Master Barookie, then the terrible grief and depression that we’re going through will just dissolve into “acceptance.” We’ll just resign ourselves to what the DNC and the party wants us to do and go out and vote for BO.
And how deeply insightful for CNN’s senior political analyst to imply that the reason we’re reluctant to vote for BO is because we’re currently overtaken by grief and depression! I wouldn’t doubt if his image of the “pouters” is of a bunch of depressed, helpless-feeling menopausal women! (could there be some sexism in there?).
I think that a lot of us NObama Clintonites (women and men of all ages), rather than being in grief-depression, are more in a place of *energized conviction*… It’s a “fighting spirit” that’s been evoked in us by seeing what happened during the primaries.
The poll is good news, given that it was taken a week after the BO/HC ‘Party Unity’ event in Unity, NH. It confirms that there are a lot of disgruntled Clintonites out there. Now our mission is to do all we can to spread the word about PUMA and the Just Say No Deal to energize the disgruntled Clintonites with the resources and support they’d get in our coalition and to prevent some of them from resigning to “the acceptance” of BO that Schneider expects.
#35 Webfoot
Heres how the Chosen One will respond -example
Voter: “Senator O&@^@ what is your position on the war in Iraq?”
Senator O&@^@: “What is your position sir/sweetie?
Voter: says their response
Senator O&@^@: “That is what I have “always” been consistant on and is what I am going to do for you as your POTUS
NEXT Question
Voter: “Senator O&@^@ what is your position on Healthcare?”
Senator O&@^@: “What is your position sir/sweetie?
Voter: says their response
Senator O&@^@: “I have said that consistantly throughout my campaign and that is what I am going to do as your POTUS
Of course it always starts with various tones, pitches of the infamous – THANK YOU, thank you, Thank You, ” I Love You Too!, Thank YOU, THANK You and blah blah blah and blah
RE: TALKING WITH OBAMA SUPPORTERS
(Sorry, hit the wrong key and it entered before I could write)
For the most part, I don’t bother with these discussions. My feeling is this:
1. People tend to dig in with regard to their point of view.
2. They wouldn’t be able to convince me of supporting Obama, so why even think I’d have a chance of convincing them to support Clinton.
3. Psyhcological research shows that it’s very difficult for the human mind to actually make a change in thinking. Piaget was one person who talked about “assimilation” and “accommodation”. Basically, the idea is that when we are exposed to new information that challenges our perceptions/beliefs, we either find a way to incorporate it into our existing beliefs and remain steadfast in our view OR, in fewer cases, we actually take in the new info and shift our thinking. (I’ve probably butchered Piaget’s theory…It’s been a looooooong time since I was in college.)
4. I think we have the greatest possibility of bringing new people into the fold with folks who don’t have a strong view or opinion regarding the two Dem candidates at this point, though I doubt there are many out there who fit this description. I think that by now, we’re all pretty dug in. (Sorry, don’t mean to be depressing.) And, I think our most sympathetic audience are those Hillary supporters who are still out there who haven’t found this home yet (though I’ve encountered many who switched to Obama because they feel so strongly about the need to support a Democratic candidate, even if one they’re not thrilled with. I’ve found those folks pretty hopeless to talk with, as well.
Gotta put my time and energy to best use. But my hat’s off to anyone here to takes a deep breath and actually engages Obama people in discourse. Lots of luck!
#40 VIOLET HILL RE: CNN’S PERSPECTIVE THAT WE’LL ALL JUST COME AROUND EVENTUALLY AFTER LICKING OUR WOUNDS
I would encourage you and everyone to contact the media whenever they express this patronizing and misguided view. In the process, you may want to graciously invite them to speak with you if they would be interested in order for them to get a better sense of just what we’re thinking, how strong and clear we are regarding our views, and about how much they may be underestimating how deep these issues are among many of Hillary’s supporters. (I always end my letters by saying that I’d love to speak with them further about this very important issue if they would be so inclined. So far, no takers! I guess they’d rather just pontificate without actually speaking with any of us to get the real scoop.)
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RADIO TALK SHOW BEGINS AT 8PM EASTERN. “You don’t want to miss this one! We have three amazing guests. Paula Abeles/Wake Up and Marilu Sochor/Women for Fair Politics will start off the show unveiling a new grassroots effort they have put together. Then Harriet Christian, the woman who spoke for us all at the conclusion of the Rules and By Laws Committee Meeting, will be our guest. Will Bower of PUMA/Just Say No Deal will be stopping in to bring us the latest PUMA News.”
[end cut/copy/paste]
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/07/No-We-Wont
#41 1of18milforhill-lol. I think you’ve now given him an idea for his own set of cards. Questions on one side, dry-wipe ink for answers on the back.
#15 Firechief
How was your trip to D.C.? Enjoyed the brief you gave last week. Is there any chance of getting those “lots of PUMAs” together in the Northwest. Nernina wanted to connect. I’ve connected with Webfoot and Diva2, plus one in Oregon.
#45 Webfoot
Hi
Been visiting my daughter out of town who has a more powerful computer than I do. I asked her to let me go online and view the video from several days back, entitled “Hillary is the Devil.” My daughter has been teasing me about becoming a PUMA and blog-fanatic and has warned me not to believe everything I am reading online (roles reversed–don’t you think?). She has not been very supportive about my frustration with the DNC, thinking that the “alternative” would be okay with her.
Well…we viewed the video together. I was in tears and when I looked over at her, she was in tears as well and said to me, “I didn’t realize it had been that horrible, Mom.” I earned a little more credibility over the weekend, I think—
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For all of you newcomers—welcome! And if you haven’t gone back to some earlier threads yet–do check that video out–it might solidify some resolve if you are unsure.
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Regarding posts from other days (it has taken me hours to glance through them): thanks to all those who have done some amazing research—I’ve learned so much from you!
I’m a teacher, and we are asked often to teach as if the child’s parent is sitting in the corner of the room watching how we treat our students. I also tell my students to behave as if their parents are sitting in the corner of the room watching them.
What we are undertaking here is historic. I am proud of my civil disobedience, if it’s characterized as that later by historians, and I want to be proud of my words.
Let’s speak our hearts and support each other and roll up our sleeves for the action ahead and behave as if our candidate is watching from a corner of the room.
#42 Anna7000
In ref. to #4 – I agree with you but alot of it has to do with the fact that the MSM did a damn good job of getting the crappy stuff out there to ppl. Then there are the ppl without Internet, cable or etc to educate them.
But there are those hard core ppl like you said that will switch over entirely just because the Chosen One is Democrat.
That is unforturnate because they will I believe one they do not really know who the Chosen One is and two they are going to be the ones (all who vote the Chosen One) to “wake up” later (if God forbid) he is elected and say “Hey what the heck is this guy doing”. They will sadly be like the Bush supporters, and gradually or in this case quickly go down to low twentys of his true supporters. In the mean time we are going to be paying the price for this inexperienced, lack of judgement and character, selfish, arrogant, unpatriotic and much more “empty suit” .
But I will never give up on Hillary ever. I may have to wait or NOT (not August yet) but I will not ever give my vote to the Chosen One and I will be very careful on the others I vote for depending on how they participated in this bias, unfair, hostile, illegal campaign election process.
#42 Anna
PIAGET
Anna, you’re right on! It’s been a loooooong time for me, too!
#47 hi halligan. I am popping in an out of here. I am doing some research on The Nelson Report, a memorandum from Walter Dellinger, FOIA, and the Privacy Act of 1974. How’s that for tipping my hand to the Obama supporters?
#25 ClintonRules on 07.06.08 at 5:06 pm, WROTE,
[[ I was asking serious questions in a respectable manner. What I find interesting is that everyone else there was agreeing with ME
she was the only one…why do i always get the crazies? lol ]]
If everyone else was agreeing with you except one person she was looking up to you for the kind of answer SHE was looking for. But you didn’t give it—apparently.
As to getting the crazies… don’t know. But if it makes you feel any better, I had one sister hang up the phone on me. lol
Sorry prplette did not see their signs – at least they tried – Go pumas.
Hey all. Is it just me, or is this a very slow weekend for political news? I’ve only had one article to comment on. Of course, being as they are all skewed so much towards misinformation, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
However, my Will to rectify the situation is not satisified.
Sooo…any suggestions for today?
#48 Lin4Hill
DAUGHTERS
Mine was a Hillary supporter. I think she’s just too busy making a living to get involved, however, I do know that she donated to Hillary. I’m visiting her in two weeks. I’ll follow your lead. I especially like your analogy with teachers to this site and our wonderful PUMA family. There are lots of teachers here. I’m one.
#51 Webfoot
NO FEAR
Way to go Webfoot! PUMAS will be watching and protecting if Obots come near our researcher. GRRRRRRRR away from Webfoot, Obots!
#45 webfoot
They took away all his permenant markers! I think he is only allowed dry erase or #2 pencil (large beginners size)…
I think they are working on a earpiece so that he can be prompted thru it before he opens his mouth…..they are trying to cut back on all the hmmms and hahhhhhs !
Not a good off the cuff speaker…..imagine if he does ever talk to are forgiener leaders – feel sorry for that interperter(sp?) ….sorry could not resist …heehee
#54 Kerri
NEWS
Not much in the news this weekend. O is trying to cover up his flip-flop and McCain is still trying to figure out his “big” issue and get his campaign together.
NLee, Sandipuma, prplvette85, Trish, Cosmeta, 1of18mil,
Thanks so much to all of you for the feedback re: dedicated email accts. I think I will go with yahoo.
Google donated way too much $ to the little Bo wonder.
And thanks to anyone else I neglected to mention above. You cats are all great!
#57 1in18
SPEAKING
O has a pathetic delivery when he doesn’t have the teleprompter or a piece of paper. Loved your imitation above.
Mmmm. I’m saying, aside from blogging…what’s doing? I saw some talk about soical sites last night. Are we running with that? Shall I link my myspace page or create a facebook page?
(Okay, I’m pretty sure you all DO understand…)
You have to understand: I have this NEED to do SOMETHING every DAY to rectify our situation.
#61 halligan
Yeah he really shows his true inexperience along with what he is trying to say when he is asked questions one on one or by media. That is why he does not want to do the town halls with McCain.
He could always check out what he singers do and lip sync? I think that is what they call it?
we were warned in vision about 2000 , 2004 , and now the chioce that the people of this nation has before us….
….to come togather and share the Truth…..think long &
HARD…..the VOTE is the Freedom of it’s People…..
Baseball is Indian……your rule…strike 3 your OUT…..
the ELDERS that supported HILLARY will be in DENVER…..it is not new for us to march in Denver….
not to ruff any feathers…..the turn out on C.Day is every year (discovery vs. detention )…..it’s kind of like …select vs. elect of the DNC ! …..LIES we don’t stomach much……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uylejk0Ke4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVuASxJKH88
you PUMAS getting the tech-Web covered……need videos of the other colors of Mother Earth children also………
……WE have been working the Spirit Web………
#22 Cosmeta….. here’s some help i think you might like on how to talk to an Obama supporter… there are 5 YouTube segments and this advice from a very wise young man…know you will have better days ahead and keep talking to everyon… RAH RAH for you!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nu48TgUVCo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OAizwKHsU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjNY8mGhxw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxJRKXJrwU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvV8kyZUE&feature=related
Everyone take note: Cultists are fiercly fraternal. They take personal offense to any and all things critical to their brethren. They attack en masse, and will often recruit Cultists for backup whenever they need to portray the appearance of popularity. One should expect a flood of Cultist rhetoric at that point.
Pay attention everyone. This type of Cultist is among the more reasonable types. They are able to understand right from wrong, and generally are well informed and honest. The issue with this type is they are radically naive. This cultist is arguing something like: A Nazi soldier was not necessarily anti-semetic, he may have been just really proud to be German and serve in the Army. While technically true, only the most naive among us would come to the same conclusion. (ignoring Nazi conscrpits)
This is a prime example of the Cultist mentality. He/she cannot grasp anything as fact (even the obvious) unless their leader says it to be true. A Cultist can look at this video and actually be offended by the obvious. This explains why a Cultist will fall for their leader praising the public financing system, and then saying it’s fundamentally broken within a 7 month period. They will do so passionately and with a straight face, because this is a cult.
Comment by obama cultist
First off, u don’t know Obama. You never been to Chicago–this is so clear due to ur ignorance on Obama’s history while working as an organizer for the Roseland Community. End of Story!
Further more, you should, 1st, tell us who u are and what have u contributed to society??? “nothing is my guess”. How can u make a serious statement when no one knows “jack” about u? what would come up if we googled u? a news article about u being busted smoking crack??? I wonder.
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Now, look how this Cultist still cannot articulate a cogent argument; even after intial criticism. He/she assumes I’ve never been to Chicago based on NOTHING; for all they know I could be blogging FROM Chicago. And, then, of course, the required childish insult; in this case “smoking crack.” To a Cultist, opposition to Obama is, by definition, ignorance.
Maybe O’s running out of things to say and he uses, uh, to cover up?
Hillary always started her statements with “Well, you know”. That gave her some time to think which is always a good technique when thinking on your feet. Anyone here in toastmasters? What did they say about using “uh” all the time?
Someone in a post long ago (maybe 30 days) said they didn’t like people saying where they are going when they sign off for a while. “Well, you know” I couldn’t resist. I’m helping my husband bottle some homemade wine from PNW grapes. Yum! “Maybe” I’ll be back.
PUMA varietal. Anyone want to make a label?
#8 GOSUEF4HIL
I’ve just finish reading URL you’ve posted. Suffice to say, I laughed my head off! Serves them right!
As the old saying goes; “the mills of the Gods, move slowly, but they grind mighty fine”……LOL
Asian #70
Another PNW person. Where have you been?
Yeah, I said I was leaving so I’d better get going.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/about/senator/
look at the first video. Hillary Rocks!
Murphy
I am from nj
but right now
I am in europe
I DO NOT KNOW IF I BE OF ANY HELP
#62 Yes, Kerri, dear …
We all DO understand. STAY TUNED!!
“She was able to play with the boys, and earn their respect” Mrs. Rodham
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/about/growingup/
goandersen
The video – I’m crying. She’s so grrrrrrreat!
#76 hilligan
I think some of the videos on the site are new. I don’t remember some of these being in this section before.
I was lead here from her myspace.
Electability Watch- the effort to get Hillary Clinton’s name off of the roll call in Denver is not fiction; it’s fact.
What you can do to prevent this grave injustice and insult to the democratic party is as follows:
All,
The ELECTABILITY WATCH is now contacting over 550 HRC or Uncommitted Super Delegates, some many times each, and a few dozen of BO’s. We are busy gathering additional lists to fill in the gaps, and if you would like to participate in the EW, we will gladly send you a group of 18 SDs in areas which need extra coverage. [Mary Ellen Courtney is working with me to compile the lists and improve the contact information we have for each SD. Please send me any updated information you have.]
Otherwise, please pick your own SDs (if you know some, have met them or contributed to their campaigns), and start the weekly cultivation process to remind them that their only responsibility is to choose the electable nominee in Denver, the person who can bring the Democrats back to the White House, and she is HRC. This is especailly important now as Obama morphs into Bush 3, polls show Obama not ‘sealing the deal’, and with every indication that the DNC and Obama want to shut down an open nomination process which will bring Hillary’s name to a vote.
Every day brings new word of a retreat, a two step to the right, another person under the bus, and more evidence of the false promise of new politics by the South Side of Chicago pol excellance…
I have just posted my Week 3 communication on Together4us.com, comments, ELECTABILITY – Week 3. Please feel free to use any of it in your communications to your list of SDs.
Want to see Hilllary nominated in Denver??? Do the EW!
GO GO GO!
Ricki
1. From the DENVERGROUP
HRC delegates – you have not been released – hold firm.
Ive been contacted by Clinton delegates and this is becoming more and more of an important issue so whatever network you have or means of bucking up her delegates and getting them to hold is becoming very important especially in light of our efforts at the Denver Group to have Clinton’s name in nominaton and a roll call vote that means something.
Im being told that some delegates are being strong armed to switch to Obama ( which the rules allow) so if you have a means of communicating with them or know that what youre sending out is reaching them, Id hit this point every chance you get to keep them together and let them know help is on the way with what we are doing to keep Clinton’s name on the ballot.
I will post more as information comes in……go go go
Storyteller: how long are you in Europe?
The Denver Group: Keeping the Democratic Party democratic
CONTRIBUTE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQ1I0jOAu8
Concerning the Nobama bots this is something good:
The wise old owl sat in the oak
The more he heard the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard
Now why can’t we be like that wise old bird
42 Anna7000…
[[I doubt there are many out there who fit this description. I think that by now, we’re all pretty dug in. ]]
Most voters do not start paying attention to the General Election until 1-3 months before… with the bigger advertising push coming about 3 weeks before the November Election.
At that time, if you were to ask them, what do you think about the election, you would be surprised to hear: Who is running. Once you say, Obama and McCain… many will then ask, Who is Obama?
36 million voted in the Dem Primary
150 million in the General.
Figure it out… there are many folks who have not been paying attention and who do not know what’s been going on. I truly believe that once an evangelical of catholic hears about his alligence to Rev Wright the man will be toast. And that does not include others like Ayers and PFleger… etc. So it will be up to us to tell them the truth.
# 36 mpk, thanks, I am proud to represent we Pumas!!!
# 48 Lin4Hill, your post was so touching and wonderful, I am pleased to report that my 2 of my 3 daughters support Hillary!
I cant begin to tell you how I feel about teachers, not only in my life, but the lives of my children. Teachers are a blessing, next to parents, teachers spend the most time with our children expanding their minds and witnessing their creativity. I believe that at least one teacher has touched us in our lives.
Has BO completely ruled out debating McCain? I mean if they do refine the earpiece BO wont even have to think for himself anymore, not that he ever really did.
One Love
#60 BrooklynNY on 07.06.08 at 5:54 pm,
Hey Brooklyn… was born and raised near Lindon Blvd… but then moved to the Jamaica/Queens border. My husband comes from Shepshed Bay area.
Nice to meet ya!
#30 Maryland PUMA
On my way over there Maryland, thank you
One of Hillary’s favs
http://www.doriskearnsgoodwin.com/
#57 I read this today and it reminded me of BO and MO:
The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug. Another thing that strikes me funny is how his ‘writers’ gave him all the right words when he was campaigning but now that he is the ‘presumtive’ nominee they have left him out to dry.
#78 Lorelai-I am focusing on my super delegates and National delegates in my state (WA). I have noted in other posts that there is a concerted effort underway to get Hillary’s name on the roll call. The delegates are very committed to this process and working hard on it. The two Hillary National delegates from my Congressional are incredible. I am in contact with one of them and will keep the PUMAs posted with updates. Now, back to my research. Talk to you all later.
Establishing Facebook or Myspace page
#62 Kerri. I think it would be a great idea. I just saw a special by Fox, I think, that talked about college kids and communication on the election. I just caught this much… If you give them a flier, they just put it in their pocket and throw it out later. They may or may not read it but probably not. On the other hand, Facebook is like their life (my comment) and if they get something like a “rally for … at such and such place with the time….” It catches their attention and they generally will read it and remember it. Maybe not right then but it is in thetucked away in their memory. Maybe an entire Facebook campaign but at a college level. Not so much to try and sway votes at this point but to expand the info on PUMAS AND to get conversation started. This is my thought, maybe others have different ones. It might also help to keep them informed of PUMA activities and/or the activities of our sister sites.
Maybe ask Murphy to see what she thinks. I thnk the more exposure the better at all ages.
Good Luck!
Diva2
webfoot & 1 of 18mi 4 hill08
the media manipulation is so so great
that they made us all believe that he was an exceptional orator
but actually
when he is not reading his notes
he sounds very vulgar
Re post # 78: Yay. Something to do!
Short and to the point, I believe…
Dear Sir,
It has come to my awareness that delegates such as yourself are being “asked” to turn over their vote to support Senator Obama. I strongly urge you to maintain your stand behind Sen. Clinton as she is the only electable candidate the democratic party has to offer this year.
As Obama’s policy becomes more clear his unelectablity does as well.
Thousands of people are working tirelessly to ensure HRC’s name will be on the ballot. Please, respect our votes and represent the will of NY in Denver.
Thank you for your time and consideration!
Sincerely,
K. Caveny
Central Islip, NY
I was watching one of those morning round tables and they were talking about BO addressing the evangelicals. They actually believe that he is making headway with them! Come on now, they know about him and Rev. Wright, they are smart minded people, some who are Pumas, who will never be fooled by a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
One Love
#4 ClintonRules
My husband said to me this morning: ” I know everything about what Hillary supporters are doing and I read everywhere that it is only the matter of time, because you will not vote for McCain in November. Everybody’s saying that. Don’t tell me about other people saying that they will vote for McCain. I know all about it. The news is right and you will all vote for Obama.” He was neutral during the primaries. (He is also not a citizen yet, so he can’t vote. ) Phew! I think that he is in for a big surprise in November.
65 bmw60…
[[ Everyone take note: Cultists are fiercly fraternal. ]]
I wouldn’t call BHO’s supporters cultists; but I would say they are brainwashed. I wrote something a few days ago here on the topic of hypnotism. But will briefly describe the reasons I think many at his rallies became brainwashed.
- The hypnotist talks directly to the *subconscious* mind.
- BHO asked everyone to bring their cell phones and call others to come and see.
- They were *not* paying attention to his speeches or his words on any CONSCIOUS level because their focus was on their telephone conversation.
- They could hear BHO speaking in the background.
- That background noise became the hypnotic suggestion(s) and moreso if any of his supporters traveled the country and attended more than one rally.
- Conclusion: They were being brain washed. And now they are brain-dead.
All, IMHO
I don’t remember if I posted this yesterday, but I just wanted to share it with you guys. This needs to reach superdelegates.
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/must-read-and-pass-along-to-all-you-know/
91 Kerri
Kerri, I am on LI too, (Farmingville). email me if you know of any local events or actions.
imgba@optonline.net
Thanks for the update Webfoot – whatever we can do, as you know, will help…my information comes from
a rabid Clinton supporter whom I met during when she was here for several weeks during the Ohio primary.
She sends out an email update each evening called
“Suspending, not Ending” with the latest and newest from her sources in N.Y. I’ll keep everyone updated.
Lorelai
Maryland and Murphy, sent you both an e-mail
An editorial in the Opinion Page of the Oregonian
Get ready to get angry fellow Pumas…
Has anyone seen the comments by Connie Schultz in the OPINION section of the Oregonian?
I have to calm down but it infuriates me that one woman would bash all other women. The subtitle is: “Working-Class Women and Obama” with the editorial called “Pivotal Voters Want Candidates Who Listens.” In trying to explain why older women favored Senator Clinton, these are the comments that made me go nuts:
” These are women who take care of their kids, their husbands and their parents and stretch household budgets for thin to translucent. But as soon as their breasts start to droop and their tummies poof out they go from sex objects to invisible. From their perspective, they’ve worked harder than anyone had the right to expect and now nobody has any use for them. But Hillary Clinton? Now there was a postmenopausal woman who refused to disappear.”
There’s more to the commentary but that was enough for me. she is trying to explain what *61 has to do to get our vote. some of her comments are okay but once she said this, she lost me all the way…By the way she is a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist. Well, I know now the type of people who win Pulitzer prizes…GRRR
anonymous
the 4th of july
I spoke @ young relatives
& both said they were very sad
because junior was going to win in nov.
they said the polls are showing that he is way ahead
and the news clearly are giving the impression that he is going to be the winner and he is acting like if he was “the president ” already
mr soros must have something cooking
#88 Webfoot Are you near Portland? If so, please read the info I just posted on and editorial in the Oregonian.
Nothing as of yet, AbiNy…that I know of. Anyone learn of something being marshalled for the fundraising here on Thursday?
You know, NYC is the center of the known world. All eyes watch here. HRC has many supporters here who would love to come out and help disseminate some much needed information. No one’s heard from any of the organizing people yet. :/ I DO understand how ‘young’ we are and how complex it is arranging for effective, legal and safe meet-ups, still we don’t want to let oportunities pass us by. The fund raising events will surely garner press…having PUMA there couldn’t be a bad thing.
#99 Diva 2 – I had a big argument with basically the same results with Wayne Kinney – in Oregon – with the DNC and a solid BO supporter – he basically said that he did not care about my vote – and he did not care what others thought – Oregon went for Obama not Clinton was his reasoning for arguing – and said that Obama had won don’t I read the news – just by conversation with him – you KNEW who he was in support of -
When I was calling in the primary for Hillary – found some of the most argumentive supporters of BO there in Oregon – I think we need to have a blitz there – I had posted in the Oregonian several times and had very hateful responses to my post as well.
As Cosmeta once wisely said – you just give them information and hopefully they will think about it hours or days later and maybe make a difference in their thinking -
Whatever happened to the suggestion that someone came up with that the superdelegates take a silent vote? I thought that was a terrific idea.
#30 Maryland PUMA
Removed some of the things on the wikipage as a temporary fix right now.
Halligan- fellow teacher–we are forged by fire!!!!
Daddy’s Darlin – Thanks– fellow mother of daughters!!
We must continue to be role models, even as they get old enough to boss us around!
#37 & #30, I agree that even if you are registered for one party, you may contribute to a candidate for another party. I’m a registered Dem and have in the past voted for third parties and way back when, I voted for Goldwater. That’s what I call an independent, not glued to the party’s candidate even if they are not qualified. Go Murphy!
#69 halligan LABEL
“PUMA varietal. Anyone want to make a label?”
Meeeeeeeee
#103 Goalucard — When I was in Portland, traveling for Hillary, I had never been flipped off so much in my life.
107 ladyhawkke – and just think – years from now they will be looking at all us dem’s that sent money to McCain. LOL
#99 diva 2
thanks for warning me ahead of time i would get mad.
aaarrrgh!!!! i can’t stand it. these are the kinds of things that get me riled up all over so i guess it’s a good thing an idiot writes something like that because it just fuels my fire.
12 ladyhawkke: yes, that’s Port. St. Lucie plus Vero Beach, Fort Pierce, Stuart, Jensen Beach…..pretty difficult to connect when you don’t even have a Clinton campaign office here. We in the state of FL didn’t count thanks to the party and O.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DW-3wqnk7E&feature=related
Hello all… i am just in a video mood today and wanted to share
Diva2
I’m ready to send a letter to the Oregonian in reply, Diva2. Are you?
#108 Dances
Just finished bottling 24 beautiful tasting 2007 Reisling from the Columbia Valley. Need a label, PUMAs.
Webfoot
Are you ready for a reply to the Oregonian article?
Blitz for Oregon
#103 Goalucard4Hill
They are VERY liberal in Oregon. Both Portland and Washington are considered to favor *61 because they are among the “wealthy” that he alledgedly appeals to.
Nike and Boeing are in Portland area, Microsoft in Seattle. Two major colleges in Portland — both with kids attending that are among the “rich and famous” up here.
I am a California woman but moved up here about 4 years ago to be with my new hubby. Were living in Portland area, now living in Vancouver WA area. Don’t know if we can do much for these two states to change their minds.
A few of us live here, open to idea discussion.
Alo
#95 Will Bower of Just Say No Deal wrote that; however, the number needed is 175 delegates, not 350. Go to his webpage and get the corrected version.
#112 FlowerChild Too bad you are 2 hours from me. That is too far. I need to find someone 1/2 hour away. When we lived in Miami, we went to Pt. St. Lucie a lot to play golf on Sundays.
78 Lorelai: I’ve used congress.org which has the complete list of the superdelegates for each candidate. I don’t know how many have switched, but it is very user friendly.
#105 TrishFromCanada Did you ever e-mail Will Bower? He wants to ad you to his list and also to join Facebook. I’ve been watching Wimbledon all day so I haven’t been to the Action Center, are all the delegates there that we have to contact?
#103 Goalucard4Hill on 07.06.08 at 7:04 pm, WROTE,
[[ As Cosmeta once wisely said - you just give them information and hopefully they will think about it hours or days later and maybe make a difference in their thinking ]]
Why thank you for the compliment. I may not be able to do as much as the rest of you… but this I do know from my life’s experience… when it comes to talking or writing, I AM A WAVE MAKER!
Psychically and spiritually that means I can transmute things and/or help to change people’s minds. Hopefully by reason and logic; yet there are times I can actually reach out and touch someone’s on an emotional level, soul to soul.
And so, I do thank you for that!
#115 halligan
Are you serious?! Do you realy bottle your own Reisling from the Columbia Valley?! I may have missed something and this could be a joke of some sort … but if not, I would love a bottle, or two, or three, or …
Diva #2, Webfoot and all PUMAS: This needs a reply. See where Connie Schultz is at the bottom.
For a lot of these women, Obama is a challenge. They may be comfortable with his policy agenda, but he is one odd duck in their pond. Much of that has to do with age. Theirs, not his. Which means it’s really about race.
Sunday, July 06, 2008 CONNIE SCHULTZThe Oregonian
N ow that Hillary Clinton is out of the presidential race, the hand-wringing has begun about what will happen to all those working-class women who supported her.
First, let’s ask the right question. Which working-class women do we mean?
Those of us who come from these homes, these neighborhoods, have always known what pollsters are finding out: Blue-collar women are not a monolithic group. They proved this in the primary election and will likely demonstrate it again in November. Whether this is good news or bad for Barack Obama depends on whether he can convince a lot of older white women living paycheck to paycheck that he’s the guy who understands why they’re so scared — and is the one who can do something about it.
As with virtually every other demographic group except African Americans, who voted overwhelmingly for him, the support for Obama’s candidacy among white, working-class women fell along generational lines. Exit polls indicate that the majority of younger blue-collar voters were for him. Older white women went for Hillary, but that doesn’t mean they will automatically vote for the Democrat in the fall. They supported Hillary in large part because she did not push too hard against their comfort zone. She looked like them and, often, sounded like them, particularly when she talked about single mothers without health care and waitresses working two and three shifts just to get by.
They don’t feel respected, and so attacks against Clinton resonated with a lot of them. These are women who take care of their kids, their husbands and their parents and stretch household budgets from thin to translucent. But as soon as their breasts start to droop and their tummies poof out, they go from sex objects to invisible. From their perspective, they’ve worked harder than anybody had the right to expect, and now nobody has any use for them. But Hillary Clinton? Now, there was a postmenopausal woman who refused to disappear.
For a lot of these women, Obama is a challenge. They may be comfortable with his policy agenda, but he is one odd duck in their pond. Much of that has to do with age. Theirs, not his. Which means it’s really about race.
As one pollster who has made a career of studying working-class voters told me, “It really boils down to when you graduated from high school, whether you graduated before or after 1971. The question is: Did you go to an integrated high school? After 1971, the answer is likely yes, which is why so many young voters say, We’re not uptight about race. But here’s what you hear from older voters in focus groups all the time. They’ll say, I go back to my high school now and it’s all black. That usually means about a third are black, but these people went to high school when everybody was white. To them, everything has changed.”
Kitchen-table issues also loom large for these voters. “This is not some ‘Sex and the City’ group,” said another pollster who studies voting trends among women. “If you are a working-class woman, you are one paycheck or one Social Security check away from financial disaster. The government safety net is so important to you in a profoundly personal way.”
Women with families know that rising gas prices mean higher grocery bills, too, and when a third or more of their income already goes to feeding the family, that’s a whole new level of pain. The economic stress also is stoking other problems that were always there — particularly drug and alcohol addiction and domestic violence. Pollsters say those issues are coming up more often in focus groups with working-class women. More husbands are hitting the kids and beating their wives, and the way many of these husbands resolve their anger is to walk away — for good. And they take their paychecks with them.
“That’s not something you find out with exit polling,” one pollster said. “That’s what you find out when you put a group of women in a room and tell them you really want to hear what’s happening in their lives.”
For older white working-class women who are married, that talk often turns to the emasculation of the men they love. These are families who were raised with traditional notions of what it means to be a man, and we saw the impact of this upbringing all across Ohio in the 2006 race. Over and over, men who used to work in factories that are now closed spoke, often with choked voices, about how they had failed as husbands and as providers because of lost jobs and reduced wages. Bitterly, they described how their wives, and sometimes their grown children, had to get jobs so the family could survive.
When spoken to separately, the wives were just as emotional — not for themselves but for the men they loved. Women often dabbed their eyes and touched the shoulders of other wives who described the heartbreak of watching their husbands crumble. When it comes to jobs and trade, many of these women wouldn’t care if the next president was bright orange with purple hair if he could bring back the light in their husbands’ eyes.
What does Barack Obama have to say to working-class women? Plenty. But they’re used to being talked at, especially by men. The guy who proves he’s willing to listen, and then to offer real-life solutions to their all-too-real problems, is the guy who will get their votes.
My mother, who was an hourly wage earner until she died, always said to her daughters, “Don’t marry him until you see how he treats the waitress.”
She was talking about picking a husband, but it’s a good test for picking a president, too, and one likely to be used this year by working-class women of every age. 2008, The Nation
Connie Schultz is a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist at The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer and author of “. . . and His Lovely Wife,” (Random House, $15 paperback, 304 pages), a memoir about her husband Sherrod Brown’s successful 2006 race for the U.S. Senate.
#121 ladyhawkke
Thanks, I’m already on his e-mail list under my real e-mail. The list should be ready by tomorrow,. As soon as I finish entering the ones I have, I’ll send it to Will and see if he can add more.
I think many progressives for Obama have seen the light and I like to take this time and WELCOME them back. Come lets UNITE and get Hillary elected. Let bygones be bygones, Obama has exposed himself and it’s NOT to late to send his ass back to the senate. We got room for you under the PUMA tent…show them some PUMA love people.
In Honor Of Many Obama Supporters That Have Seen The Light And Returned, From All Us PUMA’S http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCaUJN6MFrw
Response to the Oregonian
#114Halligan and #116 Webfoot
Let’s discuss via email tomorrow and/or I will send you my number via email. I think it would be a great idea. Webfoot, does Halligan have your email?
Sorry my energy is maxed for now so tomorrow would be easier for me and maybe will be more level-headed by then. THANK YOU!!
By the way, per the Oregonian, if you are not a middle-aged women with sagging boobs and postmenopausal, please leave this site as these are the only ones who were Senator Clinton supporters….breathe now, take deep breathes and then GROWL…
You know I found that women were always the ones who treated other women the worse in the corporate environment at least. It was a dreadful thing and I never understood it.
Misspelling
Sorry Halligan I meant breaths, not breathes.
#121 TrishfromCanada O.k. When you send it to Will, ask him to send it to me. You can also get my e-mail address from him. Thanks.
#104 Battle for the Hill on 07.06.08 at 7:05 pm, WROTE,
[[ Whatever happened to the suggestion that someone came up with that the superdelegates take a silent vote? I thought that was a terrific idea. ]]
Terrific or not, that is NOT how it is done.
First because the Convention is by tradition an open process and will be televised on C-Span and other major networds.
Secondly, because WE THE PEOPLE have a right to know how our representitives voted.
Thirdly, the party platform, of what shall be or not be is done by the presumed head of the party (BHO) and the DNC…. some of which is also done at the CREDENTIAL COMMITTEE MEETING which convenes the first day of the Convention…. unless BHO has changed that too!
And it is THAT meeting that is still up for grabs not only for setting the agenda going forward as to who speaks and at what order, bla bla… but the Michigan and Florida issue of 100% will be determined *then*.
Raising Money and Why It Is Necessary
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/2008/07/raising-money-and-why-its-neccessary.html
Hello PUMAs.
Hope everyone is having a happy Sunday.
The more I search online, the more sites and blogs I find about other people that don’t want to support “O”.
It is a good feeling. Even if I don’t agree with everything people say. It is nice to know we are not alone.
http://news.lavenderliberal.com/2008/06/21/dear-obama-supporters-we-told-you-so/
http://race42008.com/2008/06/16/obama-we-dont-need-the-people-we-just-need-the-checks/
http://thehill.com/byron-york/obama-for-president–of-the-world-2008-06-19.html
Thanks for the explanation, Cosmeta.
We already have a MYSPACE page. Loca2525 is in charge of it.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=388975330
Thanks Halligan for posting the whole article in the Oregonian. She had some good points but some of her comments were downright tacky and wrong. Not everyone who is menopausal has sagging boobs…
#130 cosmeta — I agree fully, and fourthly, if I’m going to put myself on the line in the streets of Denver to fight for our vote, the SD’s can cast their vote loud and clear inside the safe little walls of their convention.
#123 Heysandy
WINE
Yes, this is true. We do NOT sell wine nor are we a licensed winery. It’s just for our own use and to give to others who are friends. We cannot mail wine (federal laws are pretty clear) about mailing wine. Licensed wineries can only mail to certain states. It’s all for fun. We have two vineyards, one is our own (very small) of Gewurtrzmeiner & Reisling and a two acre rented property that we care for and pay the owner a portion of the grape poundage of Pinot Gris that we harvest. It’s sort of like growing vegetables and giving them away to family and friends. If you were close like Diva2, I could give you a bottle.
Just a thought for us to consider on yahoo today… interesting… perhaps this will carry over to us someday?
Internet loss of free speech?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080706/ap_on_hi_te/tec_disappearing_freedoms
#99 diva2 yes, halligan has my email address and she and I were talking about a group email today. Good idea to discuss the Oregonian that way. I read what you wrote about three times because some where in my head I kept thinking that I must be reading it wrong. Count me in on writing to the Oregonian.
Murphy
Loca2525 is a NY’er too.
MD PUMA
#99 Diva write her back and ask how she dares disrespect her mother so much! she wouldn’t be where she is without her mother backing her instead of disrespecting and downplaying HER sex!
******* PUMA ALERT *********
Pumas in the NYC/NJ/PHILLY area need to email MURPHY right away at
murphy@pumapac.org
Thanks.
#137 halligan
Thanks for the reply and info. What a great hobby!
#141 Taffy Halligan was kind enough to post the entire article at #124 She had some good points but her ignorance slays me. Halligan, Webfoot and myself are going to respond.
Thanks
Diva #2
I’m trying to remember the Sharrod Brown story, her husband. I vaguely remember something about it. Yes, I can agree with her comments about the husbands that lost their jobs and the how women felt and reacted. Being in timber country and surround by timber mills in the 90s was no fun. Oregon and Washington were so demoralized by the closing of Federal Forests. That was the Clinton era, so its no wonder that Oregon and Washington don’t want a Clinton around. At the same time, the environmental family in Oregon and Washington were happy to see the forests closed. The rest of the country doesn’t remember this because we have the “green” in more than one way. Rural logging towns pratically disappeared and others turned to tourism and small cottage industries such as furniture making, etc. The demographics of these two states lean heavily to O for the same reasons you so aptly gave and these others.
#115 Halligan re: LABEL
“Just finished bottling 24 beautiful tasting 2007 Reisling from the Columbia Valley. Need a label, PUMAs.”
What do you envision it looking like? I need a clue.
i just emailed murphy
i am from Philly area!!!
#136 gay gal…of course I want to know how they all vote…I just meant that if the SDs wanted to vote AGAINST the stronghold of the DNC and vote for Hillary -that is what I was referring to.
#142 I already emailed Murphy.
#146 Dances
LABEL
Anything with a real PUMA on it? Use your imagination (there’s limit). I could download the design and put it on a label, glue it to the bottle, take a picture, upload the picture to our gallery and away you folks could go with it. Sorry, no taste unless you lived within the WA/OR area where I could hand deliver.
Quote attributed to Rendell found at the: race2008.com
website
“Rendell, who plans to campaign on Obama’s behalf and raise money for him, said tonight’s event in Philadelphia is a joint fundraiser for Obama and the cash-strapped Democratic National Committee.
But in a sign of the urgency to raise campaign cash, Rendell said Obama didn’t want to reschedule tonight’s fundraiser, even though the governor warned him that many Philadelphia donors were headed to the New Jersey shore for the weekend. Rendell said Obama told him: “We don’t need the people. We just need the checks.” “
When the bottle and label are ready are could give it to the next Obot that comes to the door (of age) what that would be a waste of good wine. I’d probably pour it over their head. Meannnnnnnnn! My inner child is showing
REMINDER: “NO WE WON’T”
BLOG TALK RADIO TONIGHT AT: 5PM PDT AND 8PM EDT
THAT’S 15 MINUTWS FROM RIGHT NOW
THERE’S A LINK TO IT AT THE ACTION SITE
(JUST SCROLL DOWN)
HTTP://WWW.PUMAPACUSA.ORG
#151 halligan LABEL
Okie Dokey… I’ll email it to you when it’s ready.
Where you from Battle for the HIll?
#151 halligan re: LABEL
Text?
NJ
# 152,
I read that.
All I can say is WOW.
#104, 136 Battle for the Hill
“Whatever happened to the suggestion that someone came up with that the superdelegates take a silent vote? I thought that was a terrific idea. ”
I think it is a terrific idea that so many people are going to Denver to hold these people accountable for selling themselves out to BO and the DNC in the first place.
#160 gay gal – couldn’t agree with you more!
Have a friend in Morristown…and i do love NJ blueberries…LOL
#113 007girl
You inspired me. Here’s another video clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NIKB7a_k4M
#152
Wow this just shows the true Chicago politics inside him.
SuperDelegates,
http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/
something has changed since the last time i viewed this
Clinton: 272
BHO: 437.5
Difference 272 each /BHO ahead by .5
Uncommitted: 84
History has shown that candidates have walked into the convention with a much larger difference and still won the nomination.
Will Bowers is on right now as well:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/07/No-We-Wont
ooopse…
[[
Clinton: 272
BHO: 437.5
Difference 272 each /BHO ahead by .5
]]
I meant he is only ahead by 272 + .5
sorry….
#157 Dances
Any text that fits with the PUMA theme? Ask marylandpuma for my gmail. Thanks.
New YouTube I haven’t seen yet… perhaps you haven’t either……. Don’t back down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlSrl8jDbd4&feature=related
#127 Diva2 and Webfoot
Diva, tomorrow is fine. We’ll make contact, e-mail and phone.
Re:
ANY OTHER PUMA who would like to respond!
Connie Schultz
The Plain Dealer
1801 Superior Avenue
Cleveland, Ohio
44114
or e-mail at
cschultz@plaind.com
or phone at
216-999-5087
Thank you NJPUMA that was beautiful…..i have more videos to share if anyone is interested in viewing them…i just don’t want to interrupt anything !
CAPUMA
#129 ladyhawkke
No problem, I’ll run it past Murphy to make sure I follow the proper channels.
good video on bb background
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4
#160 gaygal
SD SILENT VOTE:
Good idea, but may lead to the same problem that the RBC had when they went into closed door session. No one likes closed door sessions. In fact, our port commissioners just got sued over a closed door session that really quite innocent (believe it or not). The RBC was really pushed people over the edge when they did the decision making in a secret session. It’s just not the best policy to follow. Executive sessions which the law covers clearly have to do with employee contracts and bargining, plus personnel issues in most public policy making bodies. How that applies to the DNC and delegates, I’m not sure. But they are elected and I would think would beholden to “the open meetings law.”
Hello Pumas,
Just stopping by for a moment to say hi and to share an Idea I’m working on:
I’m putting together a flyer that I’m going to title “The fact sheet” or “The Real Barack Obama”. (I haven’t decided yet.) It will be 100% fact based in English and in Spanish. It will have dates, voting record data, it will document flip flops, character flaws such as lack of judgment, will address dishonesty, etc. When I have it more structured I will be needing your input to make sure it is as accurate as possible.
The main reason I decided this needs to be done is that I realize many people’s only source of info is the biased media. Many don’t have a computer, the skills or time to do research on their own.
I think it needs to be no more than one page (wich will be hard to do with all we know about Barry.) Also, I think it’s important to emphazise the issues: The economy, gas prices, healthcare, education, the war, etc. and how NOBAMA IS NOT the answer to any of our problems because of his lack of experience, track record, lack of integrity, flip flops, etc. etc.
I plan on distributing this flyer along with the PUMA PAC one. My main purpose is to challenge people to think before they cast their votes just based on what the biased media says. I find that not ALL people that say they will vote for *61 are BObots. Many individuals I have engaged in conversations with about politics have just been deceived and actually believe what the dreamy unicorn says. Some people REALLY don’t know the thruth about *61.
I think we have a lot of work to do in our comunities to fight the misinformation. We need to wake up some people from their sleep and time is running out!
DARRAGH,
Hi!! It was so nice to chat with you tonight!!
MJE4HRC
Mary Jo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryLJ8YsRU4E&NR=1
Hillary is simply the best!!!
#175 Roxy
Thank you. Am looking forward to an update on the flip-fops.
Re: PUMA CALL TO DNC DELEGATES »
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
OBAMA SIGNALS ENDLESS WAR IN IRAQ,
SELLOUTS ON FISA, NAFTA, AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM
WANTED:
175 HONEST DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES
TO LEAVE FRAUDULENT OBAMA IN DENVER!
If anyone is a good sleuth –
I have a site for investigating (long link):
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.go-colorado.com/CO/images/detail/intro-denver-DMC.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.2004dnc.com/democraticnationalconventionvolunteers2008.html&h=249&w=324&sz=15&hl=en&start=44&sig2=TdwQ3l11w90frQDl1X7lPw&tbnid=JCgIHUDfDPBhGM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=118&ei=d0lxSNGiI4mUevS1ze4C&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDenver%2BColorado%26start%3D40%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
I thought you guys might enjoy this. Scroll down on the right to see who is under HBOs bus.
http://donedems.com/2008/07/06/obamas-flawed-race-strategy-why-the-black-vote-wont-be-enough/
Hi MJE4HRC! It was my pleasure! What an amazing pack of Pumas we have here.
Take care, and remember what I said about paypal! I’ll owe you $25!
#181 anonymous
The more bumps you go over in your car, the more gas you burn. Bo must be spending a mint everytime he rides that bus. 1 bump per chump under it
Alright…I’ve tried to hear the radio broadcast…it’s there…but I have no sound. And it says I am not logged into comment. But I registered already and when I click the confirmation email it says I’m already logged on. I don’t get it. How come I can’t hear anything or say anything or…what’s the problem with this thing. Been trying for a while now.
Be sure and do a refresh after you log in Kerri!
#174 Roxy in Cali
Thank you for all your hard work you are doing on this flier. I find it all the time when I get into discussion with ppl mostly Hillary supporters that do not even know the common probs with the Chosen One. So I look forward to it and would take advantage of its availibility to hand out for the ground troops.
May I make one suggestion – I have found that in the seniors that I hand out to (and my mom/dad) take them places with them to give to ppl it needs to be good size print and simple language for them to understand it (and maybe some others too).
Also you said it maybe lengthly – I have found myself that a trifold size but put together in the middle (stapled) kinda like a booklet but when folded not bigger than a trifold size…..if that makes sense, that way you can have either an entire page or both focus on one subject,,,,,flip flops, voting record, state rep record, senate records, issues, etc……… Just a thought
Refreshed about 10 times. I hear nothing.
Kerri: Feel lucky you missed the last caller. Sounded like a bot.
Also, they are talking quietly for some reason. Hard to hear.
Nope…just wont’ let me in. I even tried resetting the password. The one they just sent me won’t work either. But one would think I could HEAR the program. :/
hi pumas keep up the good fight we are making a difference but we have to stick together and try and discuss with others why we think 61 is sooo dangerous and i sincerely hope many of the folks who plan to stay home realize that doing so is as good as a vote for him , i really think mcain can be trusted to be a honorable president ( if we cant get hillary in) and that the dnc cannot be rewarded for this totally undemocratic appointment of their rock star over the woman who is clearly the best of all three canidates
p.s. oh and by the way i am one of the many men who support hillary and im tired of the media saying its just angry women who are against obama the media totally lies and deceives the country and i just cant stand it any more i wish we could start boycotting sponsors of these biased news programs until they start vetting this creep for real trhen he wont stand a chance
p.s.s .sorry for the rant
but i havent been on for a while
god bless /or whoever you choose to beleive in
It has been around for a while, but it is still one of my favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/v/iDU9xKNo-zo&hl=en&fs=1
Ah…had to use internet explorer.
I posted this down stairs by mistake. Always trying to catch up on the posts. Always good ones too.
Evening all. Another productive day at work. I have some one who is reluctantly supporting “o” coming over here to look around.
As to the “o” supporters (hard core ones) I talked to, seems they are pushing the line that Barry’s flip flops aren’t flip flops at all. It’s the republicans who are trying to make them seem like flip flops.
Could this get anymore bizarre?
And I have begun to notice a bit of desperation from “o”s people.
Amazing considering the convention hasn’t even taken place.
Oh and as to Michelles makeover. I read down stairs somewhere about her being in Vouge, going on “The View” and something about baking cookies?
If all thats true her makeover is:
1 Go concern yourself about fashion
2 Go sit around with other women in the morning and chat over coffee
3 Get back in the kitchen.
Glad theres no sexism over there.
Rofl.
#183 TrishFromCanada
You’re absolutely right. I laughed so hard.
PUMAs ALERT!!!
Please sigh this petition. Send it to as many people as you can.
Murphy, can you please make the link to this petition as a separate thread? Like with the notes to send to Coward Dean?
It’s a petition to fire Coward Dean.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/65/petition-for-howard-dean-to-resign-as-dnc-chair
Maybe we can also start a petition or send notes like you did before telling Dean how we want to have election process changed; i.e. no supedelegates, will of the people determines the winner, etc. Maybe we could also send those notes to Brazile, and the rest of the gang. What do you think?
These YouTube videos appear to be phone calls to Hillary Clinton delegates by BHO supporters trying to mislead them into switching their vote over to BHO by telling them outright lies. For example, that they are listed as an Obama delegates. This is your govenment in action folks. It is also how Obama is in the lead. I’ve said it before and I will say it again. This man BHO is a corrupt politician and one who engages in dirty politics Chicago style. Welcome to the New World of CHANGE.
YouTube – Obama Calling Hillary Delegates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIJVLxhmbXw
YouTube – Obama Campaign Calling Clinton Delegates AGAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfcZiMaMeSA
These videos seems to show some discrepencies at Texas Two-Step caucuses to select delegates to the convention; but I am afraid I cannot make out what anyone is saying, the audio not being that good.
YouTube – Texas Convention Senate District 15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV6lAJ709Oc
YouTube – Senate District 15 in Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEMSJ4EDbHI&NR=1
YouTube – Obama Supporter Says Chair Said Hillary’s Numbers Not Right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMYQxZd1Etg
YouTube – Credentials Not Resolved
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKczu8B7ols
YouTube – Complete Disorganization at Texas Caucus Possible Fraud?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxFKPOzddow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6HfDRrmO8k&NR=1
YouTube – Inside The Texas Caucus “The Texas Two-Step”
This one is the only one I can actually hear. ~smile
YouTube – Inside a Texas caucus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9-82zDcqkM
PRO-HILLARY YOUTUBES
_____________________
January 27, 2008
YouTube – A Tribute to Hillary Clinton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkVbkgySF4
May 21, 2008
YouTube – Hillary Clinton – I am Woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPd8mXqgOio&NR=1
June 4, 2008
YouTube – Hillary Our Hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DW-3wqnk7E
June 6, 2008
YouTube – Hillary, The Time of Her Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC8XpjEZQ4w
June 6, 2008
YouTube – Hillary, I’ll Stand By You!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny84_5mVlTo
June 7, 2008
YouTube – Remember Hillary Clinton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCM7trVino
June 7, 2008
YouTube – Hillary, Goodbye for Now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVlmBLfOMo
June 8, 2008
YouTube – Hillary Clinton Tribute (by cmp10003)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9CgIcdr7dg
#191 greenfun….hey that was a fun one!!! enjoyed it
# 195
Happy to sign the petition. So true, he needs to go.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t9kbDrD-jww
I just had to add this one….gotta love it
Hey guys,
I think I just made somebody else REALLY ANGRY. I was in touch with this guy for since March, but I didn’t get the response which I was hoping to get.
Here’s the text of the email.
I took out his email for privacy purposes.
Subject: Re: Help please
To: anonymous.hello@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 7:17 PM
I think Senator Clinton made it clear who she supports. I am confounded why anyone who supported her would not listen to her when it comes to probably our most important presidential election ever.
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Anonymous Hello wrote:
Hello,
Happy 4th of July! I wanted to ask you for advice. I probably said many stupid things before–my question is: do you think I could get a job and do a good job on another campaign? Right now I am considering one of the campaigns for the California State Assembly or State Senate. I am looking at both Democratic and Republican candidates. I am also volunteering for Sen. McCain right now.
Is it okay for me to work on Republican campaign this season, and then try and work for a Democrat down the road? Do you think I could work in marketing department? Please get back to me and let me know what you think.
Thank you so much for all of your help,
JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE TO GO IN THE WATER -
I was prowling around the internet, posting, and I noticed how Obamabot traffic is really down. And I has so much wanted to argue. Then, I got back to my email and saw one of the postings flagged and removed. I filed my complaint, notified Murphy and reposted. Since it seems to be only the really good posts that they flag, I though I would share it with you. As follows:
Titled: Don’t Give Up, Americans! (Your Country)
Americans,
Don’t Give Up!
Many dispute the anti-Democratic suspension of the Hillary Clinton Campaign and are still fighting to see her as the Democratic Nominee. It is an insult to the American Public that the Democratic Party believes they can use their Multi Level Marketing techniques to sell Americans a corrupt, unqualified candidate that will allow them to exploit America for whatever the Bush Administration has not already plundered.
Find Out: Coalition online at JustSayNoDeal.com
Get Involved: Democrats – Take back your Party!
Take Action: Speak Up (Post, Blog, Talk to you neighbors)
Take Action: Contact your Democratic Representatives and let them know you want to see the Democratic Superdelegates in your state elect Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Nominee at the DNC Convention August 25, 2008.
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
Take Action: Donate $20.08 (or as you can) to the Hillary Clinton Campaign for President 2008
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200
I AM NOT OVER IT YET.
I was not over “it” when George W. Bush was “elected” in 2000.
I was not over “it” when George W. Bush was “elected” in 2004.
I was not over “it” when Barack H. Obama was selected June 2008.
I will never get over the love of my Country.
I will never stop asserting the founding principals of the United States of America.
I will not surrender my Country to fraud and exploitation.
I will not lapse into denial for a false sense of security.
I will not follow corruption under the guise of unity.
I do not need to bear arms to fight for my Country.
I do not need to make you believe me.
I will be seeing and saying and doing.
I will be thinking and talking and living.
And that which is right and is good will empower us as deceit and deception are revealed.
PUMA
#197 ontherocks
Thank you. Please pass it on to everybody you know.
What does “confounded” mean? Is it like “confused” or “unsure”?
#173 ROXI IN CALI – What a great idea – would love to see what you come up with and will print it out myself and pass it around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLkHpVHj4TE&NR=1
Triumph puma’s… i will never forget this election… i will never give up!!!
please please please watch video on blog #204
#195 anonymous
Hmm…e-petitions are nice and all, and they certainly are popular, but the truth is they do little to nothing to help anything. Reasons here:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
I would suggest we start a written petition, for reasons stated in this article.
Has anyone seen the prototype for our new 2009 currency?
http://www.zazzle.com/obama_penny_button-145458687398512019
#206 piepiepie75
That’s a good point, but how do we get written petitions in every state?
#208 anonymous
We could create several duplicates and have different PUMAs get signatures. Those who live in heavy-Clinton states can probably get a lot, even from a small state like WV. Then we could have those PUMAs send the petitions in once they reach a certain point.
#207 Cat in NJ
OMG! This is unbelievable. It’s just sick. I hope that the next thing won’t be “sun” or “moon” with HBO written on it.
#204 007girl
Beautifully Powerful video, I loved it!
#209 piepiepie75
That’s a good idea. We should probably send it to: KY, NY, Arkansas, Ohio, PA?, CA?
regarding obama’s currency….please god give me a break….i can’t take this anymore…lol
response to #207
#212 anonymous
Yup, don’t forget Michigan!
.
#214 piepiepie75
Good point. How about Florida?
Thank you Stardust i was hoping someone would like it!!!
#213 007 girl
You said exactly what I wanted to say.
#215 anonymous
Oh yeah, Florida too! Pretty much any state she won by double-digits would be good, but of course we could get people from every state.
#218 piepiepie75
Let’s go PUMAs! 1,2,3 PUMA
#217…. no problem that was the first thing that came to mind!!!
If someone could put together a short letter, stating why we are asking people to sign. We can post it on our action page so people can print it out and take it with them.
Just an idea.
Heard back from the Governor (Oregon’s):
here’s the form letter, well at least they’ve heard from me. He’s a big Hillary fan…
Thank you for sharing your ideas and concerns. I believe citizen input is vital to a strong and healthy society and I urge your continued involvement. Should your comments require an additional response, appropriate staff will contact you.
I look forward to hearing from you in the future.
Sincerely,
Theodore R. Kulongoski
Governor
# 222
That is great. It is nice when someone responds to you.
Does anyone else think that the media’s lies may just be their undoing? They tell people not to worry about the people who will not drink the kool aide, they tell everyone we are so minuscule- so no one out there watching the news is worrying about us- as we continue to grow, growl and fight. Come November they are all jolted awake from their cozy dream, Hillary is elected and they say “Wow- I didn’t see that coming”.
We need more TV appearances. Murphy, we need you and Mr. Bowers to be on more news programa and talk shows. PLEASE!!!
StarDust #224 – Absolutely.
Hello everyone!
Hope you had a great weekend.
I just received a call from Jan Kaplan. He is a supporter calling for the BO campaign. Mr. Kaplan wanted me to support BO since I was an attendee at the recent BO picnic. Pumas what is so hilarious about the whole thing is that I was not allowed in the event along with hundreds of others, and I have contacted the local paper to have research done as to why this happened. Mr. Kaplan expressed his deepest regrets that I was unable to attend and blamed it all on the secret service.
I told him I would never support BO and that I will remain a firm Hillary supporter. I also let him know that I am a proud PUMA and that I will never follow BO into the darkness. I guess they got my number from the Hillary roles since I purposely did not put it on the roster when I picked up my Golden Picnic tickets.
As an update it seems that an individual on the No Quarter blog has called the BO campaign and asked why we were locked out of the picnic. The response was that the metal detectors had gone down and it was supposed to be only for 15 minutes. Once they were up and running again we were to be let in. I cannot believe this since we were told they were done for the day allowing anyone into the event.
I wonder if I tripped the pod people’s radar since I have never been called or e-mailed by the BO campaign. WOOT!! I feel special now!!
Hillary/McCain 08
NOBAMA EVER!!
I saw the new Obama coin. This gives a whole new meaning to why they say the penny is becoming so worthless
#225 anonymous: I’m pretty sure after the media gets all those emails Murphy should get a phonecall or two, doncha think?
ROTFL headline of the week! Or the millenium?
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=369309
“Obama courts Middle America in attempt to counter ‘antiChrist’ image”
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/05/AR2008070501854_Comments.html
A Wash Post story about “Obama addresses his faith” — which DOES NOT EVEN MENTION Rev Wright!.
Has over 300 comments, gets into Obama’s recent statements about abortion etc.
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/07/06/wapo-addresses-obamas-faith-no-wright
Comment string is at the bottom of the same page, few screens long.
This is from a conservative site but does a good critique of the WaPo story and gives more background
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#221 – ontherocks – your name makes me thirsty. So I’m outta here for a Black Butte Porter!
Diva2 and Webfoot, etc. Connie Schultz is actually an impressive columnist and author who is married to Sherrod Brown , Super Delegate, (our Senator from Ohio), who until, June 5, was uncommitted and then went for Obama. (my letter to him in April apparently had no impact).
Connie had admitted in some Plain Dealer articles that she was for Hillary as I recall. (But I can’t be sure about that as I write this but I’m almost positive). She, herself, comes from a blue collar background with a “lunch bucket father” and writes eloquently and fervently about the values she received from growing up in such a household.
I had the opportunity to see her on a book tour in Columbus for “And his lovely wife”, which had quite a feminist bent, as she was always introduced as “his lovely wife”….after being a Pulitzer Prize winning writer herself and much acclaimed in her own right.
She was so authentic, and genuine in person ….those passages really disappoint me. Compartmentalizing Clinton supporters is a dangerous road to go down, but I fear, that is what is happening…..Anyway, just some background for you all. Lorelai
As far as an actual signed petition, could a common letter be suggested, then find volunteers to rent a P.O. Box, one in every state, and coordinate a date for mass delivery, with funds donated for postage? Of course, all groups aligned with PUMA would be urged to participate. It’s a huge undertaking, but it’s certainly been done before.
#207
“Has anyone seen the prototype for our new 2009 currency?
http://www.zazzle.com/obama_penny_button-145458687398512019 “
# 230 turndownobama
Some people out there may have not had the image of Obama as the Anti- Christ on their minds until they decided to do such a good job of conjuring it up for us.
Just got done listening tot he blog radio, loved Harriet Christian….also got her e-mail so thats great!!
#207 oops #234 OBAMA PENNY
Meant to say…gross!
and if he wins, as the first black pres of the US we’ll be seeing lots of that shtick
#236 LGIT
Would you mind emailing her eddress to me?
me at gmail
thanks
#234
Isn’t that just a scream? And I thought the Kiddie Page on the Obama website was a hoot … Obama Birthday Party Kits, Obama coin collection cans, Obama coloring pages … I’m lmao just typing about it!
237 DancesWithPumas
I wonder which country will be exploited to mine the copper for that little trinket.
YAY! PUMA house parties! Sounds totally awesome. That was my favorite part of the radio today.
#239 Cat in NJ
I sorta think the coloring pages are a sweet gesture toward children … it helps to see yourself reflected in successful people. Role models. (Although, once they grow up and understand the truth, not so much.)
STARDUST – @228
Wasn’t going to post tonight, but that was priceless.
I saw a lot of people chatting on the broadcast and requesting a room on AOL. I made one, under Special Interests, but because I was repeatedly unable to login during the broadcast I couldn’t say anything about it.
I am not going to keep this room open much longer, unless people come by though, because I’m getting a lot of uhm..strange IM’s shall we say, lol…in response to the Party Unity My Ass title. :::Rolling eyes::: You know how all those chat rooms look. Anyway, if you’ve come from the broadcast and wanna chat,s’under Member rooms in AOL/special interest.
her Murphy….my family is in NJ …but alas…they are for the chosen one…..just had a “lovely” disagreement with my brother who says…”I’m just pissed Hillary didn’t get the nomination and that the DNC bent over backwards to count FL and MI, and that all I’m supporting is more bloodshed”
ok…first point….BO has not yet gotten the nomination
2nd point…the DNC bent over backwards, ignored their own bylaws, and half ass counted those voters votes
3rd point…ok, I don’t even get his point on that one….
but we are in the middle of a family crisis so I chose to drop it…..any PUMA’s in Miami, Florida? my neice came back from a senior trip to Costa Rica and ended up in a hospital there….we can’t get any help…anyone?
#240 goanderson The O PENNY
Hi there, and
Point noted, although don’t you think he’s the type who would have nothing less than gold?
RE: THE O PENNY
Keep the change!
246 DancesWithPumas
Well yeah, but he doesn’t want all the “po” folk that would buy that tight ‘O’ penny to own any gold!
That is all for him!
#230 turndownobama
I just added my letter to the WP story about *61′s faith article. Also, I might want to add my name to the responder list, but right now I’m drafting letters to various media outlets.
The penny is a joke right??? it is not going to be real currency to distribute and use in the U.S right???
246 DancesWithPumas
He is not even worth the coin he is printed on. LOL!
Who thought up that anyway? Obviously someone one loop short of a knot!
#250 007girl
let them eat change
If we ever doubted that our economy is going to hell, the Obama penny is proof positive.
#229 hillistheone
I’m with you on this.
lol goandersen
#253 Firebelle Puma
Hi
007girl
thanks for the video links.
They are nice breaks!
#250 007girl,
Yes, the penny is a joke. Just like Obama.
#225 anonymous on 07.06.08 at 9:55 pm
We need more TV appearances. Murphy, we need you and Mr. Bowers to be on more news programa and talk shows. PLEASE!!!
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I second that!!
Mary Jo
#238
I just sent you the e-mail
Earlier turndownobama-com started a new blog titled “petition AGAINST Hillary as VP”. Under no circumstances do I want to ever see her playing second fiddle to that prick. It would be a sad day when the most qualified would have to always stay one step behind. Here is the site.
http://blogs.pineandlakes.com/node/99
I will be posting there later as mylabs.
FYI: SUPER DELEGATES
During the “No We Won’t” blog radio program with Sherry Tag, Will Bower announced in the chatroom that 8 SDs had flipped…from Senator Obama to Senator Clinton.
I’ll post about this again when / if I find more sources for this info.
Hey, goandersen. Where were you last night?
261 drbodkin
They are looking for you over at HillaryVillagers, Normita’s site.
yeah the penny thing is actually a bit sick …what exactly is that supposed to say …that he is arrogant enough to think he is to be considered in the same prestigious category as the prominant figures that are on our currency?? Why a penny? Why not a quarter or half-dollar for that matter? Pretty stupid idea is you ask me ….but I guess Obama supporters are not asking our advice
263 antifish
taking a break and cleaning my shoes.
If you gave Bo a penny for his thoughts you’d get change
#265 alwaysaimee
I gotta a copper bling bling for him…some 1″ copper pipe I found at recycling…your plumbing is his art!
#260 Lets Gte It Started EMAIL ADDY
Thank you!
*********Get this over at TaylorMarsh’s site*******
Barack Obama Will Pray at the Pump!
Guest post by Linfar
Barack Obama announced today that in honor of the weekend July 4 celebration of America’s revolt “against taxation without representation” he will join the Pray at the Pump Movement.
The PAPM, founded by Rocky Twyman, a member of the Seventh Day Adventists, has been holding prayer vigils at Exxon and Shell stations across the country. Smiling and obviously excited Obama told an impromptu presser:
I was a community organizer and I know what this involves. This is one man making a difference. It is faith based and it is spiritual. It is a man of God doing God’s work. Who can be against God?
Obama refused to disclose which gas station he will turn up at in the next few days. His press corps immediately launched into a flurry of speculation. So far Pray at the Pumpers have hit Exxon and Shell stations. But Wednesday they turned their prayers on the Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington D.C.
Obama announced in response to a question about the Embassy pray-in.
“No. No. No. I don’t think praying at the Saudi Embassy, is a good idea The Saudis understand our concerns well enough. We don’t need to seem to attack them directly. Besides they are Muslims. They could care less about a bunch of Jesus freaks.
He then told one of the women in the press throng:
I don’t understand your question, sweetie, No one said Jesus freaks. You misheard me. Easy to do out here in the wind. I am a devout man of faith. I take my religion and my preacher seriously. That would be contrary to everything I believe.
On the issue of his beliefs, another reporter questioned the presumed Democratic nominee about his stand on Iraq. Obama has been reported as saying recently that based on his upcoming visit there, his view of when the troops might come home, could be adjusted. He explained:
One simply cannot know in advance what sort of expedient position the President will be required to take. But I am sure all of my supporters and the American people can rest easy in the knowledge that I have no qualms changing my position to suit whatever situation arises.
Obama then blew the woman reporter a kiss and turned away from the impromptu presser. As he stepped into the waiting limousine and the reporters melted away, one bystander was seen picking a paper off the ground. It was headed:
Senator Obama’s Impromptus Remarks on Pray at the Pumpers. Staff note: Remember, this should appear to be spontaneous.
Twyman, who prompted the first national campaign aimed at getting African Americans to become bone marrow donors, who still did not know of Obama’s support, was reported later as saying:
I think we have just entered a new phase. We were in the prayerful phase, but now we’re going into a more activist phase, because we feel that whole faith without works is dead.
John Neurohr from the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank, has a different approach to managing the high gas prices.
There is little, if anything, the average person can do to reduce gas prices generally. What they can do is reduce their personal dependence on gasoline by carpooling and utilizing public transportation.
Obama rejected the riding the bus idea. Not prayerful and faith-based enough. He wants to win evangelicals to his side, and praying at the pump is by far the best publicity op.
This is the current post over at TaylorMarsh.com As I was reading this I kept saying…this can’t be real. He really isn’t this obnoxious…then I became more aware of catch words like “prayer” “religion” “Gas Tax Holiday” (that he was against) and like he was making more cracks about the middle class. Scroll down to the disclaimer………
***Disclaimer. Senator Obama has held no such press conference and his views on Pray at the Pump are unknown at this time. However, while I support him because he is the Democratic Party nominee, I need to vent a wee bit at his March to the Right.
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This is a joke. And the author, “Linfair” admits that he was laughing the whole time he was putting this together. Confidence or just plain stupid? You be the judge. Sorry I posted the whole thing, but thought maybe some of you would like to jump in over there and give him some GROWLS.
~J
# 262 DancesWithPumas
Great news, 8 of them flipped huh?
Keep on coming back SD there may be hope for your kind yet.
Obama – Now this if the kind of change (I wanta) believe in
NYT article
“He (Obama) told a conference of the African Methodist Episcopal Church on Saturday that as a community organizer he “let Jesus Christ into my life” and “I dedicated myself to discovering his truth and carrying out his works.”"
HE DID NOT!!!!!!!
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He needs to wear asbestos pants.
Thank you goandersen….i am glad you liked them!!!
Is he arrogant? This is a guy who is going to move his acceptance speech to a stadium. That to me is spooky in itself. I just don’t believe that the rest of the world will think that isnt arrogance at it’s finest. He is high on himself and needs a reality check at the convention. I am sorry i can’t be there but will be donating to the cause.
Hillary 08
http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/
Scroll down to: Real Democrats
Join
Evening Pumas! I just came across what I believe is an important & time-sensitive post by Heidi Li Feldman about the current Obama/Clinton camps negotitations. She ends the post with this:
“Despite the lack of more concrete information about these negotiations – which could be covering issues such as when and if Senator Clinton will speak at the convention, what the final status of Michigan and Florida will be, and much more – the situation requires urgent action in by those who seek an authentically democratic convention – which, in my opinion, includes putting Senator Clinton’s name into nomination so that any convention roll call vote is not only authentically democratic, but is also truly representative of all the Democrats who voted during the primary season and gave us all the closest result in modern Democratic party primaries. Negotiations do not occur in a vacuum. Now is the time to let both camps know that rank and file Democrats want a substantive convention rather than a showy coronation. That matter will not be decided at the Convention itself; it is being decided as I write and you read this post.”
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/informed-speculation-what-clinton-and.html
Him without a teleprompter haha….he tries to make up for it by saying a joke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU
#271 StarDust SD FLIPS
8 from 175 – 167 needed! Doable!!
Someone check my math.
There are three kinds of people in the world…
those who are good with numbers, and
those who aren’t good with numbers.
: )
Welcome antifish…we need humor in here tonight!!! This hot headed 40yr old Puerto Rican woman that refuses to “get in line” is about to blow her top with this obama crap!!!
#134 Maryland Puma
I just tried twice to go to the myspace link, and I get:
“Internet Explorer cannot display site”.
????
#279 007 girl
Are you in Puerto Rico?
I want to know why Hillary’s name would NOT be on the first ballot, or roll call (whatever) She never ended her campaign, she suspended it. If 18 million people voted for her, and that was 1/2 of all that voted, doesn’t that tell us, even though,BO got the delegates, that the people in this country want to see her name on the ballot. What the F#$& is wrong with the DNC, besides allienating 18 million voters?
Can someone please help me understand?
#261 drbodkin-
Bill I think? Good to see you here, I remember you suggested reading Elmer Gantry over on HC.com before the O’bots infiltrated.
I am just about done w/ it (it was not a quick read!)
It is very good, very pertinent to our situation today.
I am preparing to read The Prince by Machiavelli next.
Come join Normita’s blog @
http://www.freewebs.com/hillaryvillagers/
DanceswithPumas….loved the math –
Also don’t forget my favorite quote in regard to our friend Bo –
No is worthless, you can always use them as a bad example.
Sorry guys- one more-
Normita started a chat room after the O’bots infiltrated our hallowed ground, here is the link
http://www.chatzy.com/758714259761
I believe you will have to register. It has been quiet there but perhaps if enough of us start visiting, we can talk in real time
I meant “No one is worthless, you can always use them as a bad example”……sorry, getting late.
And also, I don’t know what “take it upstairs, or downstairs means….” Can someone explain remedial Pumablog to me?
286 Lorelai on 07.06.08 at 10:47 pm
upstairs=new thread started ( when you go to the top of the page you will see it under the current thread)
downstairs= current or past thread. For instance, if Murphy said to take it upstairs, a new discussion has been created. If she said “posted downstairs” it would mean older thread/post. Hope this helps.
No BelleCat….I am living in CA….i was born in New York though
#284 Lorelai TAKE IT UPSTAIRS
means Murphy, our Queen of Everything, has posted a new blog and it’s open for commenting.
If you scroll to the top of the page…
you’ll see text and an arrow to the right, for the new blog, and on the left, an arrow to the previous blog.
Thanks for the quotes!
Thanks Jeremy!!!!!
#289 007girl re: BI-COASTAL
“I am living in CA….i was born in New York though”
same here.
Anytime Lorelai
#288 LORELAI NEW TEXTING FORM
Copy and paste, or tyoe the number of the post and the person to whom you are responding. On that same line
type the topic, it makes it easier to reference for the person you’re responding to, and it makes it easier for people who aren’t interested in certain threds or topics.
Can someone explain why John McCain is not stepping up to the plate yet??? Where is he?? Obama is dictating this whole election..and McCain is passively allowing it to happen!!! WTF is going on???
#230 StarDust
Interesting, Canada is looking at getting rid of their penny lol
295 DancesWithPumas on 07.06.08 at 10:58 pm #288 LORELAI NEW TEXTING FORM
Thanks for the reminder Dances.
#296 007girl
Hello,
John McCain is waiting until after the convention to hit Obama hard. He does not want to go against Hillary so doesn’t want to knock BO out of the race yet.
Hi Jeremy
#007girl McCAIN
“Can someone explain why John McCain is not stepping up to the plate yet??? Where is he?? Obama is dictating this whole election..and McCain is passively allowing it to happen!!! WTF is going on???”
McCain has limited money and Obama is digging a hole every time he opens his mouth, McCain is doing pretty well for someone who isnt campaigning too much! And, maybe he’s waiting to see who the niminee will be. The pacs and McCain will begin in earnest in September (read this part somewhere…NYT, maybe).
I just hope that logic works…I am just afraid it may be too late
#298 Jeremy NEW FORM
My pleasure. I find it exceedingly helpful.
i don’t want to be negative but i sometimes think to myself…is this election fixed???
#286 N.Lee I went to your link and read Steven Yabarra’s article, then sent him an e-mail. The man has some valid points to make and is as frustrated as we are. I think his ugly “whining”, remarks may be due to frustration and anger with nowhere to go. It has made me think…how much have WE reached out to the Hispanic population?? He is correct in that an estimated 11 million Mexican Americans have been kicked to the curb along with the rest of us.
How many of our affiliates are Hispanic? That is a very large group of Americans with the same issues we have.
At any rate I told Steven that we as individuals can only do what we feel is the best and wished him luck on his own choices. I felt more like reaching out than kicking him in the teeth.
296 007girl on 07.06.08 at 11:00 pm
Can someone explain why John McCain is not stepping up to the plate yet??? Where is he?? Obama is dictating this whole election..and McCain is passively allowing it to happen!!!
He is taking notes. Seriously. In my opinion, he is allowing BarackBurnout. Many are asking the same question, 007girl. I have. Then I started thinking about it. There is a long time between August and November. If many are sold out or talked out or pennied out by Barack beginning of September, John McCain will be listened to…seriously. This is a strategy in my opt.
#302 007girl McCAIN
Meanwhile McC is practicing his teleprompter skills.
#304 007girl,
I agree with you. This whole election has been a disaster. There is no doubt in my mind that it is fixed. I still want Hillary to come out ahead at the convention but my hopes are small.
300 texassherry on 07.06.08 at 11:02 pm
Hey texassherry!
#307 007Girl IS THIS ELECTION FIXED
“i don’t want to be negative but i sometimes think to myself…is this election fixed???”
Yes, this election is fixed, and PUMAs are the ones who are fixing (repairing) it.
#268 goandersen,
Sorry, I had to go blog on that Hillary VP thingy someone posted.
Cleaning your shoes huh? Did you go to an Obama concert?
I just hope in time people will wake up and realize what the hell is going on!!
306 Jeremy ,
You are too smart. Can I borrow some of your brain. I like the way you think.
#308 texassherry
It isn’t over until it’s over… and our lady sings!
8 Super Delegates flipped recently. ‘Tis a good sign.
Now we need just 167 more to vote for Senator Clinton.
Hey folks, I’m back from my citizen action with the Declaration. I taped it to the doors at the following places: Louisville, KY Dem HQ, Superdelegates John Yarmuth and Baron Hill’s offices. You can see pics of this PUMA in action at http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/declaration-photo-thread/
Did anyone else do this?
#272 Jeremy,
Obama better start a Pray at the Polls movement!
Thank you guys for all your responses… i am just lost here trying to figure out what is happening here…GO PUMA’S
#311 antifish ,
Hey Antifish what’s up? Will you quit messing with the thingy and give us some laughs? These blogs are getting dull without you. LOL
296 007girl on 07.06.08 at 11:00 pm
Can someone explain why John McCain is not stepping up to the plate yet??? Where is he?? Obama is dictating this whole election..and McCain is passively allowing it to happen!!!
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Most people do not start following the election till around Sept/Oct. I think McCain is waiting till then to bring out his big guns. If he brings them out too early, they will not be effective in the fall. JMHO And, BO is doing such a good job of shooting himself in the foot, McCain can just sit back and study for a few.
Well I finally emailed the letters that came in my email. Had to send each one individually but that was okay, it was so easy having the letter and the addresses right there.
Now I’m wondering, where are all the guys? What can we do to reach out? I’m sure it’s not just women who are pissed.
316 antifish
he’s the type that would send his thugs to Pay at the Polls”
#314 DancesWithPumas,
Hello, I agree. I just get frustrated sometimes because I am not used to fighting corruption. I don’t know what they are going to do next and can’t think at their level to counteract them.
#281 007girl,
Thanks. I didn’t know you were Puerto Rican. Do you live there?
#314 DancesWithPumas
Which 8?
313 texassherry on 07.06.08 at 11:10 pm
Awhhh….shucksss…
Appreciate that, texassherry. I do what I can, and you can borrow any part that I can loan out.
#322 texassherry
I know. The more frustrated I get, the more I contribute and the more I make graphics. My graphics seem to be getting meaner and meaner… even though I’ve been holding back!!
#314 DancesWithPumas,
I have written a letter to all the super delegates but I am concerned if we write too many to them that they will feel like they are being harassed and our letters could produce a negative effect instead of a positive one.
There are so many great ideas here, as in all posts. I wonder if there is someone whose main job it is is to read through and extract ideas that 1) might be worthy of being a feature in the Action Center, and/or 2) are duplicating efforts that some other group is already doing, and/or 3) are ideas that for whatever reason reach beyond the mission or values of PUMApac and need to be addressed as a result.
#324 TrishFromCanada SDs FLIPS
I don’t know which 8. Will Bower reported it during the “NO WE WON’T” blogtalk tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eqljOldNTw&feature=related
goandersen and all check this one out…Hillary inspires me…. i feel inspired again
I have the feeling that the Republicans have something on Obama but want to wait for him to get the nomination before they use it. Hillary after all would be a formidable candidate for McCain so they don’t want to knock BO out YET. Meanwhile BO keeps acting arrogant and losing votes on his own. I think starting with the Democrats convention in Denver that the Republicans will start mischief if nothing else being supportive of the anti BO demonstrators to make the DNC look ineffective. And the DNC is in a bad spot because people are used to force being used on young angry male demonstrators but I am guessing 75% of the demonstrators will be female and many not so young and society does not take kindly to watching women physically pushed around. That is why I think the DNC will force protesters into heat exhaustion to shut them up and keep themselves looking innocent.
316 antifish on 07.06.08 at 11:11 pm
PRAYER MOVEMENT
Antifish, agree. We need to suggest that to Linfair who is setting in for Taylor while she is trying to get work. I piped in, but in moderation. They are on to me over there.
Thanks Jeremy, I didn’t know what that meant “take it uostairs”…now I got it..so i asked this awhile ago, Doesn’t Hillary have the right to be on the roll call? I don’t know that much about this part, someone please explain, and why would BO and Hillary have to discuss this?
#325 Jeremy,
I dreamed of a great song for Hillary to sing at Denver when I took a nap today but was too lazy to get up and write it down so now I have forgotten it. See what happens when you get older?
It was a good country melody too. I used to belong to a songwriter’s club when I was younger but haven’t done that in years. My guitar just sits in the closet now collecting cobwebs.
#328 ANNA7000
Murphy and her crew review the posts and cull. It’s easier on them of people with good ideas email Murphy for review. I think she already invited you to do that.
#279 Lets Get It Started,
Ugh, that video reminds me of GWB. Can’t wait for Obama to say gynecologists can’t practice their love with women all over America.
Antifish i live in CA now …i was born in New York though
319 Middle age female on 07.06.08 at 11:12 pm
REGARDING McCAIN
Thumbs up Middle age female! Good point!
#327 TEXASSHERRY RE: SUPERDELEGATE LETTER OVERLOAD
I think you raise an excellent point. I’ve considered this, as well. If we bombard SD’s with letters they might just get turned off. In addition, since there’s not way to really control the tone of these letters, it’s probably safe to assume that some are written in such a way that might be unnecessarily confrontational, alientating, etc. I think your point is very worthy of consideration by Murphy and others. At the very least, I think it’s crucial that when we do write letters that we are professional, articulate and state our case without a lot of histrionics. In general, people don’t like to be around angry people. And, like it or not, though we’re all very angry, and justifiably so, we need to make sure we direct our anger appropriately. I think similar rules apply to press releases and the like. It’s important to remember that when you’re trying to ensure that someone listens to what you have to say and to maximize the chances that they will actually take you seriously and consider your points, that you pay very careful attention to how and what you say so that your goal is achieved.
#327 texassherry SD Letters
Just send them brief, concise, accurate letters without attacking, or in some way putting them on the defensive.
315 annabelle
Go Girl! I haven’t done this yet.
You know how when you order those school pictures of your precious cherub every year there’s that page containing multiple exposures you have to cut up? And how before you figure out what to do with all of these miniature images your sweet baby, who has grown 6 inches and gained 40 pounds and is about to graduate from high school, bears absolutely no resemblance to those photos, anyway? Well, this year, I figured out what to do with some of my son’s surplus photos. I stick them in my letters of protest to the SD’s. Not because he’s a Hillary supporter like his mother, which he is; but because he’s black. It’s my ‘in your face’ of saying, ‘Don’t even think about playing the race card on me!’
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/05/us/05beliefs.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=slogin
Wow, this article *almost* seems anti-Obama…except if you know a bit about psychology, they put the pro-Obama people’s views *last* and talk about how they are “more analytic” and use words to imply the anti-Obama sentiment as being pure emotional reaction. Why? Because according to psychology, people remember the first thing they read and the last thing they read, and very rarely what is in the middle.
#325 Jeremy
I think you need to check on laws pertaining to loaning out pieces of your cranium. The government is sure to have a law about it and you know the IRS is surely going to want a piece of it too.
I just read the post above mine. I send my ‘letters’ on beautiful peace dove cards put out by UNICEF, with the word “peace” printed out in several languages.
334 texassherry on 07.06.08 at 11:20 pm
REGARDING SONG
Keep a journal close by. My laptop is always close. I use both…handwritten and the computer is online 24/7. I have DSL/broadband and if I have something I want to “remind” myself, and feel like hitting it on the keyboard, I use the laptop. If not, take notes in the journal. Cool with the musical talents. Take that guitar out. You may be surprised at what you really know and thought you forgot.
#339 Anna7000,#340 DancesWithPumas,
I agree with both of you. My concern is that we are sending thousands of letters and filling their emails. My work involves my email and if I received that many letters at one time I would not only not read them but would get really ticked off because I would have to got through them to sort, delete, etc.
#346 Jeremy,
I used to do that but I haven’t been inspired for over ten years so had stopped doing it. I guess I will need to start again although I don’t have a tape recorder anymore to record the music.
Hmm, I just skipped over to AmTrack. A round trip fare from Spfld MA to Denver is $179 … Cheap, and trains have dinning cars, and you can get up and walk around. The down side is it takes to full days and the price is for coach, not a berth. Still better than a bus. It also means if you are no where near where the buses are leaving from you could still arrive in Denver at a central meeting place I.E. the Denver train station.
#315 annabelle,
You are my new hero!!!!! Great work!!!! ((((((annabelle))))))
#347 texassherry Writing to SDs
Use snail mail to write to them. Snail mail is more heavily weighted by them than email, which is easily cut and pasted and can be sent withing a minute or two.
Snail mail requires more effort and is the reason they weigh it more heavily.
#318 texassherry,
Hey girl! I’m trying to read through all the comments here, then I’ll dazzle you with my humor!
#350 antifish,
I got an email about BO today but don’t want to post it because it might offend someone. Let me know if you want to see it and I will forward it to you.
Whoa, I’m wrong. That’s one way, still better thatn driving.
#351 DancesWithPumas,
Good point. I may try that this week. Are the mailing addresses posted at the action center?
#327 texassherry SD LETTERS
Your concern about overloading the superdelegates with letters is one reason I’ve changed the tone of my letters. I usually begin with words of praise or positive points.
For example, I might start a letter praising superdelegates for their contributions to our country and thanking them for the difficult job they’ve done. Then I can transition into my feelings about Hillary or Obama.
I’ve also “gotten over” the issues they don’t want to hear about anymore. I no longer write about the sexism, the disenfranchisement, etc. It’s done. They’ve proven they don’t care. So I don’t even bother.
Seldom do I write about other issues they don’t seem to care about. No one cares about Obama’s birth certificate. No one cares how he conducted himself in early political races.
Instead, I try to focus on current issues. My big one is emphasizing that Obama’s refusal to debate McCain is a direct contradiction of his repeated claim that he “welcomes that debate with John McCain.” It proves to me that he’s not a man of his word. It also proves to me that he’s not someone who will work across the aisle. (I don’t need to look at Obama’s voting record to make this assessment. It’s obvious in his recent words and current actions.)
This morning I sent Obama an email (which I posted on the previous thread) telling him that while I admire his commitment to bring our troops home and his planned trip to Iraq, his refusal to make a joint trip with McCain is more proof that he’s not willing to work with Republicans and that he doesn’t believe in transparency in government. (If he goes without McCain, he’s free to mischaracterize things that are said in the meeting with military commanders on the ground.)
If you begin your letters with a positive tone, superdelegates should be more inclined to read them and give due consideration to your talking points.
Feel free to contact me directly at firebellepuma@gmail.com if I can be of assistance.
Hey Hotsky that price is not bad at all!!! I went amtrack from cali to New Jersey once and i took a sponge bath daily on that trip…i even blow dried my hair…funny stories on that trip!!!
#321 Dances,
Pay at the Poll is right. He’s trying to buy this entire election. I’m just glad the DNC is in such dire financial straights. It’s like a monkey on his back.
Disclaimer: No racism was intended by using the term monkey to describe the DNC on Obama’s back.
http://www.diversityj.com/HillaryObamaComparison.html
#356 Firebelle Puma,
Thank you. You make a lot of good points. I may try that and let you know if I need some assistance.
344 StarDust on 07.06.08 at 11:26 pm
Bring them on Stardust. We talk about ‘isms” Let’s talk about social security numberisms. The IRS are bigoted to us who were given the last two digits on the counting digit number line. Let them try and get a piece, I will counter with 7 weeks of interest that they owe on my economic stimulus check. No fare to those who got the money coming to them back in May and I am still waiting for mine…just because of a “number” they tattooed on my soul. Let em lose!
#355 texassherry SDs addys at Action Center
Take a gander… you never know what else you might find there. ; )
#332 Jeremy,
Are you still in moderation at TM. I can go over and try. I think I’m still OK over there.
#362 DancesWithPumas,
Thanks. I’ve been there before but it’s been awhile so there is probably a lot of new stuff I haven’t seen yet.
Hey, Hotsky, there are plenty of pissed men like me. I sent my max allowed to Hillary’s campaign, attended the “One night only with Elton John” at Radio City Music Hall. I have also sent PUMA $100. I want Hillary for our next President!! I leave comments at CNN everyday trying to get people to wake up and see what a con artist that guy is. The DNC really screwed the american people and I will NEVER send them another dime as long as I live. So don’t worry there are a hell of a lot of men pissed too!! I am sure the media will try to make it look like it is a crowd of cranky feminists causing all the trouble. I tell you, if I was a woman I would be doubly pissed at Howard Dean and his cronies at the DNC. If they lost the female vote, they would be in deep doo doo.
#353 texassherry,
Yes, please forward it to me.
#365 tadgher99,
Welcome. It is nice to get a man’s point of view. We don’t have too many on the blog. You should visit more often.
jbjd-
I think it’s great that you identify yourself in the letters…i hope it makes them stop and think. it’s so easy for them to group us as a bunch of menopausal women with nothing better to do. i make it a point to tell them in my letters that i’m 27, and I am paying attention!
#366 antifish,
Will do it right now.
#359 goandersen Senators Clinton and Obama Comparisons
WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read that comparison some time ago, but I missed the item where Obama wrote his memoirs…
He was 37 years old!!!!!!!!
What kind of arrogant (close your eyes) mofo writes their “memoirs” in their 30s??
It isn’t as though he accomplished anything huge, or death defying, or even worthy of note…
What a freak.
348 texassherry on 07.06.08 at 11:32 pm
REGARDING MUSIC
Use your pc. Got a mike? If you have microsoft windows XP it should have easy to use programs already installed on your hardrive to make recordings. A lot of details, but check it out.
ANNA007 Good Ideas
Did you send your suggestions to Murphy?
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/clinton_delegates_from_western.html
Oh dear: What happens if a Clinton pledged delegate decides not to go to the convention b/c they think there is no hope?? Do they get replaced somehow?
#370 DancesWithPumas
I think we should post this on BO’s blog.
CNN is a lost cause. The people there have been hypnotized for months to the point of being scarry zombie-like things. I’m not sure actual, real people could come up with those comments. I’m worried they will bite me or something if I go back, and then I’ll be an Obamaniac. This is the stuff that gives people nightmares………..
tadgher99,
Welcome to the Pumas! Please don’t be a stranger!
Evening PUMAs! Sorry I’m late!
#334 texassherry
You aren’t the only one who does this!
If I think of something and I don’t write it down right away, I forget it within 5 minutes.
#371 Jeremy,
I have a full size mic so I don’t know if I have the right size adaptor but will check it out tomorrow.
Wow I am seeing alot of new names here all of a sudden. Welcome new PUMAs!
#373 matt,
I was hoping you’d show up. Were you the one who called in to the radio show tonight?
#373 goanderson Clinton Obama Comparisons
I don’t think we should. They’ll juststart flamingus. Why stir up flame wars?
I’d rather send it to Super Delegates.
texassherry
I’m a singer/songwriter and you can get fantastic home recording equipment for around $200…i leave mine hooked up most of the time so that the good songs don’t get away.
#356 Firebelle Puma
The SD’s probably have the word PUMA set as a autodelete for any e-mail containing the word.
#377 InuHanyou1701,
Hey Inu,
Glad to see you. You are so busy that I can understand if you forget. I forget within a minute and have no excuse for it except I guess I am getting old.
Meant #375, Matt
381 DancesWithPumas
Because, these people need to get a serious grip!
I wouldn’t post it. I don’t want his site on my system.
#382 queen81,
I used to have all of that but after I got married I got too busy to do it so sold all my stuff except for my guitar, mic, and amp.
Will Bower just posted this message to the Just Say No Deal coalition. Passing it along:
Hello, fellow PUMAs!
Last week, many of you reached into your pockets and generously gave what you could
to help pay down Hillary’s campaign debt.
However, the main contribution link at HillaryClinton.com had been redirected
towards a different account. Instead of going to pay off her debt, it directed
contributions towards her 2012 Senatorial campaign.
If you have any doubt as to where your contribution went, you must contact the
financial department at HillaryClinton.com and let them know where you had intended
it to go!
For them to be legally able to redirect your donation *back* into her debt fund, you
must make your intentions *clear* to them.
Here are four ways you can contact them, to let your intentions be known. Again,
this is only for if you are in doubt. If you are confident that your money went to
pay off her debt, then you need not pursue this.
If you *are* in doubt, please contact (any or all) of the following, and encourage
your PUMA contributing friends to do the same:
Finance@HillaryClinton.com
JMantz@HillaryClinton.com (Jonathan Mantz)
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact
phone: 703-962-8600
Thank you, and I hope you had a great holiday weekend!
#370 DancesWithPumas
BHO’s arrogance knows no bounds. He thinks he is a political God and THAT is what will cost him this election. When the people of America wake up and finally see this, it will be all over for him.
NOTICE: This is from Will Bower… (I’m calling it the OY Memo)
Last week, many of you reached into your pockets and generously gave what you could to help pay down Hillary’s campaign debt.
However, the main contribution link at HillaryClinton.com had been redirected towards a different account. Instead of going to pay off her debt, it directed contributions towards her 2012 Senatorial campaign.
If you have any doubt as to where your contribution went, you must contact the financial department at HillaryClinton.com and let them know where you had intended it to go!
For them to be legally able to redirect your donation *back* into her debt fund, you must make your intentions *clear* to them.
Here are four ways you can contact them, to let your intentions be known. Again, this is only for if you are in doubt. If you are confident that your money went to pay off her debt, then you need not pursue this.
If you *are* in doubt, please contact (any or all) of the following, and encourage your PUMA contributing friends to do the same:
Finance@HillaryClinton.com
JMantz@HillaryClinton.com (Jonathan Mantz)
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact
phone: 703-962-8600
#363 antifish
RE: TaylorMarsh~ still in moderation. I think they have kicked me out. I feel honored
Hi Inu!
Murphy
Was just about to post that!
AHHHHHH
#380 antifish on 07.06.08 at 11:52 pm
antifish, what radio show? Fill me in
LOL MURPHY
Sorry, I saw your post right after I posted my notice. I was trying to get the word out and didn’t know when you would arrive.
Apologies
#391 Jeremy on 07.06.08 at 11:55 pm
What did you write? I haven’t been on TM since the bots took it over.
Murphy,
I used the link you had posted here to contribute. Was it right?
FYI Re: Will Bower’s message. Neither I nor Puma PAC have any direct or inside information about Hillary’s campaign.
If Puma PAC members have questions, I *wish* I could answer them, but lacking any inside information, I’m afraid I can’t.
However there are always very resourceful Pumas on the thread who are usually able to answer questions, so feel free to post them.
#356 Firebelle Rodham Puma – what you have said about the superdelegates thanking them for all their efforts and going with that direction is completely right on – I have had 17 responses back from the superdelegates that I have written and all but two were very good – and they were all not original Clinton supporters either.
Sometimes I feel that we are going backwards instead of forward – we have spent weeks on this subject and decided what we should do – and then we have new people here that turn it all around after hours and hours and hours spent doing what the original thinking agreed we would do – and that is a good thing that we have group discussions as that is the only way we can grow with ideas other than our own ……. but ……
Usually or really never do I post anything on here that would be controversial – as I have seen the results of that – however – we can talk a subject to death without taking any action and the convention will be here and gone – I think the point made that nice is better than ugly to get attention – however – we all sure gave attention from the ugly ones that we have encountered.
My two cents worth and thats all that it is worth – I know for a fact that there is action going on behind the scenes with the superdelgates – there are a few that have confided directly with me – and I am not at liberty to divulge my sources or their comments – their point was to continue – do not give up – if they do not want to hear from you they will delete their email addys, after several emails back and forth with the supers – I have asked them just that question as I was concerned too that we would hound them to death like Donna and Howard – 15 of the 17 said NO – continue -
#386 goanderson CLINTON OBAMA COMPARISONS
“381 DancesWithPumas
Because, these people need to get a serious grip!
I wouldn’t post it. I don’t want his site on my system.”
And they’re thinking the same about us PUMAs.
Some have already become Obama Pumas (oxymoron, I know) better late than never. More may wake up before Nov 4 if he keeps yapping.
I mnetioned tonight tha 8 SD have flipped to Senator Clinton. The house of cards may be tumbling.
Murphy,
Thanks for the warning from Mr. Bower! Just sent an email to the top link there.
#394 matt,
Guess it wasn’t you. A very knowledgeable young man named Matthew who was from GA and was 18 called into a radio show many of us listened to earlier tonight at Puma talk radio. Some of us thought it might have been you.
antifish Contributions
I used a couple of different links… will call them tomorrow to verify and make correvtions if neccesary.
This is a really looooonnngg movie. It is enlighten though.
The DNC in 1932 used Prohibition to split the north and south in order to weaken the votes for Roosevelt. He won any way.
They used Racism this time around.
http://www.freeforall.tv/
396 matt2008A on 07.06.08 at 11:57 pm
Upthread #272. I did not write the post but tried to respond.
#400 DancesWithPumas on 07.06.08 at 11:59 pm
Really 8 SDs switched to Hillary? If thats true, that would be awesome. If a few more flip, BO won’t have the number of SDs or Pledged Ds, to be the nominee, and it would be in limbo…….Poor Pelosi and Dean…
Maybe Will Bower is drinking too much coffee and doing too much. I thought the link would have been tested before posting.
Antifish #397, I used the link that Just Say No Deal believed was the correct one. However I am not 1000% sure to where that link sent money. I think Will’s message makes it clear that there is some confusion.
#406 matt2008A
Will Bower mentioned that during teh NO_WE_WON”T radio program.
With this contributions mess up… take it with a grain of salt. I’ll beleiev it when Murphy or Heidi Li tells me it is so.
#402 antifish on 07.07.08 at 12:01 am
No sorry…..(maybe I have a clone I don’t know about)….sounds like he was pretty good though.
4th of July PUMA humor
I heard the blog was getting dull, so I thought you might want to know the candidates views on how fireworks finales should be executed:
McCain :
“I honor the tradition of ending fireworks with 50 reports (one for each state) followed by a pause, then the last report for the District of Columbia.”
Obama:
“I ahhh think ahhh that we should have 57, no 58 reports (one for each state) followed by a pause, and then the last report for the District of Columbia.”
Kerry:
“The company that does our fireworks display in Boston is thinking of moving the last report for the District of Columbia so that it precedes the reports for the 50 states. If they do this, the DNC will likely support my decision to limit them to 1/2 of a report for the District of Columbia.”
Conclusion:
Leading economists in the U.S. say that with the rising costs of fireworks, the Obama plan will force many towns to suspend their fireworks displays due to the high costs of adding the additional states.
The McCain plan is by far the superior plan, both economically and traditionally.
The Kerry initiative will be difficult to assess until the DNC fireworks rules committee has a chance to meet to assess the cost of custom explosive devices and to decide if they will “select” to penalize the District of Columbia by taking away half of their report in the grand finale.
goalucard #399 – thank you.
404 oops
That isn’t the one. LOL!
#399 Goalucard,
Thank you for your wise words. I’m glad to head that some SDs are still receptive to our message. You are right, we need to tone down the rhetoric and state our case respectfully.
wow regarding the SD’s…. This is giving me hope
#350 anti-fish. Awwww, yer making me blush. It was seriously fun. You should consider it. It’s not too late. It doesn’t have to be today!
Murphy, I hope you get a chance to take a look. I want so much to help build and legitimize this movement, and I hope I have some good ideas. I know I have energy. I’ve contacted Jeremy with my skill sets.
That said, one more time for the late-late-nighters. http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/declaration-photo-thread/
I’m exhausted. Good night all.
#409 DancesWithPumas
Did he name the SDs?
My guardian angel was looking after me. I was so tempted to “pay down the debt” on her sight. I had a weird feeling when it all of the sudden was “cleansed” of Obama. Yeah, right. And I mean this as no blame to Hill. It says on the page that any new donations will be directed to her re-election campaign for NY Senate Seat.
nforhillary # 411 — :-O
#411 nhforhillary ,
Good one. LOL We need some humor once in awhile.
404
This is a really looooonnngg movie. It is enlighten though.
The DNC in 1932 used Prohibition to split the north and south in order to weaken the votes for Roosevelt. He won any way.
They used Racism this time around.
http://www.larouchepac.com/
#408 Murphy,
We are OK. Went back and checked my confirmation receipt, It was for the presidential campaign. Anyone who used your link is fine.
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
DATE: July 4, 2008 12:05 PM EDT
NAME: antifish
ADDRESS: Acworth, GA 30102
AMOUNT: $20.08
————————————————————-
=============================================================
Contributions to Hillary Clinton for President are not
deductible for federal income tax purposes. Corporate
contributions are prohibited by law.
Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President
4420 North Fairfax Drive, Arlington, VA 22203
I personally think we need to start targeting the ones who flipped from Hillary to bb. They need to consider their role and the fact that they vote FINALLY at the convention, not now. We know rendell and bayh are extremely strong Hillary supporters, as is the guy from GA and the one from NY. If we can get a large percentage to stick together it can tip the whole thing.
You are always welcome Murphy and thank you Anti Rodham Fish. I TRULY believe that there will be a surprise at the convention.
Drac
#417 Matt2008A SDs FLIP
“Did he name the SDs?”
Matt, not that I noticed.
Any PUMAS from New Hampshire out there?
Taffy – there were 23 that flipped from New York itself – I know they will flip back again – they were under a lot of pressure to back the no name one – her own State will go back for her -
#400 DancesWithPumas
Where did you hear about the 8 SD’s? My mom is curious as she hasn’t heard this.
#411~nforhillary
a wink and a nod with a thumbs up attachment!
Myspace Page:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=388975330
And sorry if you’ve already said. I’m still reading back posts. ^.^;
NOTE: LarOUCHe
During his campaign in the late 70s (early 80s?)
part of Larouche’s platform was to rouund up gays and lesbians and send them to concentration camps.
Must have been the early 80s… HIV AIDS, etc,
#425 DancesWithPumas
I wonder if Will Bower or someone has a list, b/c they may need a thank you letter or something.
428 InuHanyou1701 SDs FLIP
see post #409
Clintonrules,
I would not be bothered arguing with a obamabot for 3 hrs, the bad cases can never be saved. I think the best thing is to educate through letters and postings about the true nobama , no pressure on their brainwashed minds. Don’t wear yourself out with lost causes! pick your battles!
#426 nhforhillary
Where in NH are you? My uncle lives in Windham (Near Nashua). I have cousins in Exeter, Dover & Concord.
#433 matt2008a SDs FLIP
or they may want to stay closeted about it to avoid pressure. Who knows?
#416 Goodnight annabelle, my hero…….
Murphy and Texas sherry – Thanks
I have to tell you about this. I talked to a young girl working at a state park today. She said that she is not stupid and that alot of kids her age can see through Olord. Anyways she was upset by the way that Hillary was treated. She wanted more info and I referred her here. I also gave her all sorts of info on what happened and Obama info and where I got my sources. She said that Obama scares her and that she hopes more of her age group, would think like her. She’s afraid that she’ll work hard in the future and won’t get anywhere because of Obama. She is thinking of her future.
#399 Goalucard4Hill SD LETTERS
Thank you for your post.
Interestingly enough, the one person who *loves* negative letters is Donna Brazile. She *always* answers me if she can respond with “Stop the hate.” But if I write something nice to her, she ignores me.
I teased Donna one time when she answered one of my emails and complained about the flood of negative letters and emails she gets from Hillary supporters. I said that her complaint reminded me of my experience as a basketball referee.
It used to bother me when fans booed the refs, because I always tried my best to do a good job. When I complained to a senior referee about this, he told me that when fans buy their tickets, part of the price of admission is the right to boo the refs.
So I told Donna that when fans (voters) buy their tickets (register to vote), part of the price of admission is the right to boo the refs (express our displeasure with politicians). I suggested that she might just want to enjoy the process.
Donna never answered that one.
#320 Pardon me hotsky,but I am male. I didn’t think it mattered. I have however, under a different name,identified myself as male when blogging.
Rest assured hotsky, there are more men out here than you think. In fact of the seven people I have been able to convince to at least come look over here four are male.
Most of the men I know are voting McCain anyway and even the republicans I know think HRC got shafted.
The men in this country are far more knowledgeble and far less sexist than the dnc would like to think.After all, the dnc is banking on sexism to put “o” in the whitehouse. Believe me, we all know that they would never have tried the stunts they did to a male candidate.
The dnc is going to be in for one hell of a shock come November. The democratic party has always had a gender gap problem with men and destroying Hillary is not the way to close it.
She deserved to be treated fairly. Even the most sexist men I know are disgusted by the way Hillary was treated.
The hypocrisy of the DNC ,who have always portrayed repubs as sexist, is going to cause a backlash that will echo through the political landscape for years to come.
And not just with women.
Men who have opposed women candidates have been subjected to years of being called sexist for no other reason than the fact they opposed a candidate who happens to be a woman, just as PUMAS are being called racists for opposing “o”.
We have sen real and effective sexism used to destroy HRC.
Matt – Exeter, NH
THere are several entries in TM Hot Topics plugging Heidi’s funds and “The Denver Group”, and Scan even did HT plugging a mydd about giving Hillary her roll call vote!
Taffy and all – posting as of June 6th those Superdelegates that have switched or endorsed BO -http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html
#437 DancesWithPumas
Good point….Thanks for the info.
For the record I am male as well
#442 nhforhillary
Cool…Exeter is a nice town. My cousin works at Phillips-Exeter.
On the flippin’ SDs. I asked Will and he said he didn’t yet have names. He will post them on his site when he does so we need to be on the lookout.
#439 nhforhillary,
That is really nice to hear that young people are really paying attention and really care. I wish my kids were that way but they are too wrapped up in their lives and don’t realize how much this could affect them.
Matt can we get something in the works for NH?
This is a swing state
And I use the MALE part to every post that I can get on that they identify women will fall in line – I get to say that I am male and I will not fall in line either – so there are lots of us out there as well.
matt2008a
pleasure.
#411 nh,
LOL!
It’s a beautiful school. I am close to all the towns you referenced are you in “NH”?
I have a stray male dog howling outside my door wanting my female so I gotta go and see if I can run him off. Keep up the good work Pumas. good night ya’ll.
#434 DancesWithPumas
Ah thanks! Sorry about that!
#453 Antifish – isn’t it so typical of Obama?
I think Boston needs a change, Kerry’s fireworks initiative will cause the DNC to explode!
Too funny #440 Firebelle Puma about Donna – I think she probably just has a standard message that she pushes enter to respond back to everyone – except for the nice ones
Hi ya’ll, I only read the first few comments. I can’t debate with Obots. I TRIED for many months. I simply cannot do it without losing my patience. It’s a shame actually. lol. I just can’t talk to these people anymore. I gave up.
Oh, can someone pass on the message to Murphy to make her Action Center more prominent on this website? It really is very important and it’s a link that should be showcased. There are probably a lot of people who come on here that just lurk but feel like they’d like to be a part of the cause.
So, please make the Action Center Link prominent…not light gray on the sidebar as a small link.
Anyone agree?
Here’s my Puma Action Center page: http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/puma/
It would be great if everyone committed to at least one hour a day of actual physical action, and not just blogging (which I love to do). Good idea?
#449 Texas Sherry
I was surprised at the clarity for age that she was able to see right through the Big Zero.
#441 snowtiger on 07.07.08 at 12:17 am
1. Rest assured hotsky, there are more men out here than you think.
2. The men in this country are far more knowledgeable and far less sexist than the dnc would like to think.
3. The dnc is going to be in for one hell of a shock come November.
snowtiger, all of your points are on the nail. There is a silent MAJORITY of guys that are not vocal about what happened in the last year. And my male friends will talk with me and even to the point of code. I have a Czech friend who taught me some of the language and he is always giving me his vigor for making sure Barack is not POTUS. The silent majority will howl in November. Thanks for your post snowtiger!
#450 nhforhillary on 07.07.08 at 12:20 am
Thats a good idea, NH is gonna be close. My uncle voted for Hillary in the primary, but doesn’t like BO, so he’ll probably vote McCain. I’ll be in MA for a week or two in late July, so I’ll probably visit my uncle. McCain is very popular in NH, and BO isn’t really spending that much there. Nashua and Manchester are the real swing areas, so thats probably the best place to start.
#456 InuHanyou1701
“Ah thanks! Sorry about that!”
Nothing to be sorry about.
#441 snowtiger,
Thank you. I’m glad you’re a Puma!
#455 texassherry
Goodnight! Be careful out there. Strays can be dangerous
Thanks for the welcomes! I actually have been visiting your site for a long time but never registered until recently (duh!). I followed the primary very closely like all of you I’m sure and was just appalled at the treatment of Hillary and the process in general. When it looked as if the DNC finally got their way, I immediately googled for anti-Nobama/DNC sites and came across yours and felt like “I’m in!”. I just posted the following at the Greta site:
he DNC is a criminal organization in my opinion. What they did during this primary, taking delegates from one candidate and giving them to another is reprehensible. Turning voters into “half-votes” is outrageous. Trying to force Hillary out from early on in the campaign so they could select their man is down right undemocratic. This primary has left deep scars that will never heal. I am very disillusioned about the political process in this country as I foolishly thought these kind of things only happened in third world countrys. I have been forced out of my own party that I have supported for years both financially and by my votes by my conscience. It was horrifying to see democracy crumble over the primary season. I will now vote for McCain even though he is not my perfect candidate, at least he will not run a banana republic.
Matt are you still out there?
About snail mailing to SDs. Dunno for sure, but I’ve heard that mail sent to Congress or Senate has to go through a lot of security checks in case of anthrax powder or something like that in the envelope.
So if you’re writing, SDs who are Congress Critters, better make it postcards not envelopes. Dunno if that applies to writing their home offices.
ANyway post cards are good so everyone along the way can see what it says: all the delivery people, secretaries, etc.
SWITCHED SD’S
Does anyone know if the SD’s who switched were one’s who had originally supported Hillary, then switched to Obama, or if they are 8 who went from direct Obama support to our Hillary?
TO: DANCES WITH PUMAS
Yes, I sent Murphy and e-mail this evening with some ideas about the web site.
Jeffrey, if you’re reading this, you can also add to the Skills List for me: Web site design (not that I am good at the technical stuff, but I’m great at figuring out the logic, placement, ways to group things, and how to write brief instructions when needed).
Nite Texassherry! Been there done that! Keep that journal close.
#466 tadgher99
Well we’re very glad you decided to join us in our conversations! Welcome!
Very nicely put. Banana Republic. 
Nice one
#455. Rofl. That wasn’t a response to my post now was it? Rofl.
The gods of irony are alive and well.:)
#459 kat in your hat ACtion Center prominence
Others have mentioned the same… Murphy invites all of us to email her when we think we have worthwhile ideas. You might want to take her up on that:
murphy@pumapac.org
Goodnight texassherry!
#466 tadgher99
How right you are.
Goalucard,
I must confess. All this time, I thought you were a woman.
Ok, DancesWithPumas: I’ll do that
#459 KAT IN YOUR HAT
(God, I love some of these “names”!!!) I agree with your comment on the placement and prominence (or lack thereof) of categores on this web site. I sent Murphy an e-mail today with a lot of ideas, including the one you noted. I hope the site will be changed soon so that newcomers can get a better handle on who we are and so that it’s easy to find important stuff like taking action, or even before that, the need to register.
kat says: It would be great if everyone committed to at least one hour a day of actual physical action, and not just blogging (which I love to do). Good idea?
=====================
kat,
A lot of people print out flyers and cards and leave them in laundramats, on buses, etc. You can download the files on several sites. I think Pumapac has some, and so does camille424
Thanks for the comments. Im proud to be associated with everyone here. Even the women.
(snowtiger running for cover)
432 DancesWithPumas
The “1932″ movie on that site really is a good history lesson, regardless of Larouche.
#467 nhforhillary on 07.07.08 at 12:26 am
I’m still here, my computer is really slow tonight.
I live in GA, but my family is from New England. Both of my parents were born & raised in Mass. About 90% of my family still lives there.
#466 tadgher99
We must put “country before party” when any branch in our government chooses their will over the will of the American people. We are fighting for the right of all Americans to be heard. We must preserve this fundamental freedom for our children. It is a cause that is greater than our selves. Shall we risk the peril of losing our voices, to have our freedoms disappear like a silent thief in the night? Will the DNC actions affect all Americans? YES! The DNC is going to override the voices of the people and tell you who one of your choices for president will be in the general election. Is this right? NO. Every American should be concerned, and angry. We have one “selected” presumptive nominee (NOBAMA) and one “elected” nominee (McCain). How soon will it be before ALL the candidates are “selected” for us?
Tadgher 99 — welcome!
480 snowtiger on 07.07.08 at 12:30 am
and Ha!..now I will duck!
LOL big time
#457 nh,
If Kerry causes the DNC to explode, I’ll move to Massachusetts and vote for him!
#469 Anna7000
“Yes, I sent Murphy and e-mail this evening with some ideas about the web site.”
GOOD!!!
Antifish — I thought inhanyou was a woman!
lots of people think I’m a man, so hey.
Oh, one more quick comment about the web site and our discussions. I think it’s best to avoid jargon. Jargon is like an “in club” and is alienating to anyone not “in the know”. That said, as a newcomer to this site, reading “taking it upstairs, downstairs, etc” was like, “Huh?” I think I know what it means now (is it about blogs above or below the one you’re in?), but it’s an example of making someone feel like they’re not part of the club. Will e-mail Murphy about it, too, so she can consider removing it from the PUMA lexicon.
488 murphy
I’m a man too.
#466 tadgher99,
Thank you for speaking to how we all feel over at Greta’s. You did us proud!
Murphy on #488, you were right. My jaw dropped 12 feet when I saw you on the Fox interview. Was not at all that I…”envisioned.”
Huh?
#481 goanderson LarOUCHe
“The “1932″ movie on that site really is a good history lesson, regardless of Larouche.”
I’ve made a note of it.
We worked our buns off trying to educate people about HIV AIDS, trying to counter larouche’s fear tactics.
And of course, Ronald Reagan wasn’t any help.
Don’t get me started…
I don’t understand how there are not more people outraged over Hillary being shafted by the DNC. The media does not seem to care that one person recieved more votes and still did not the nomination. Where’s the outrage like in 2000?
#488 murphy
Matt:
Your Uncle sounds like someone I should talk to.
You could e-mail me his contact info at
Nancypuma@gmail.com
Nashua and Manchester have a higher population.
I have ideas on how we could reach lots of people
because it is summer.
489 Anna7000
I like the “take it upstairs” . What did I miss?
k, I’m back…
Yes, Anna! I agree. So much can be done. It’s really a wonderful place. My favorite things about this place is the attention Murphy gives us. You know, the comments, and the DAILY report is very inspiring. The Puma Action Center is just way too good to be hidden away. And there’s a lot that can be pumped up to make things even clearer.
#480 snowtiger,
30 lashes with a wet noodle for that!
#488 Murphy
I’m a man too.
494 DancesWithPumas
I know, we did too, down in LA.
#501 DancesWithPumas
This surprises me! (No offense intended if any was taken!)
#485 Jeremy.
Lol. We are outnumbered here. (sips koolaid) Allow me to redefine my previous message, which in light of existing circumstances, may have seemed to be misinterpreted by those of whom I was only referring to in a previous release which was meant to clarify that which I did not intend to be interpreted in the manner in which it was disseminated.
I believe this should clarify that which was previously not intended and now will present the matter in a manner more fitting to a constructive engagement of ideas. Hope and change being the centerpiece.
It’s Bills fault.
#489 Anna7000,
I had already said good night but read your post and wanted to respond. Take it upstairs means that a new thread has started. I didn’t know either until I asked. If you go to the top of the page and hit home it will have a new thread started. If they say take it downstairs it means go back to a previous thread. I hope I am explaining it okay. Antifish and goanderson are really good people to ask questions to. They are really friendly and a lot of help. I just lurk most of the time but join in occassionally. Hope to chat with you in the future but I am signing out now. Hope I was of some help.
matt: The people in the media are following “orders.” True journalism no longer exists except for citizen journalists…unfortunately, only a handful of extremely wealthy people own the media outlets now and they push their agenda on their employees, and so we are actually listening to the opinions of bought off media heads, or simply wealthy wicked political pushers…
#490 goandersen,
Uh uh! Don’t even try it. If you’re a man, then I’m just batshit crazy!
Anna7000 Jargon
Another good idea. We actually had some one in here earlier who asked that specific question. It took me awhile to understand what that meant. I think I was posting on days old threads and figured I must be boring people because no one responded. I slipped and slided all over the place, being new to blogs /blogging.
#495: oooh, I forgot the number system
Antifish,
I realized a second after I submitted it, That it might be a good thing! You crack me up. Very witty.
We need to vote in Ed O’Reilly, send e-mails to Bill O’Reilly on foxnews and say that his family tree was researched and this is his long lost cousin. He needs to support him and interview him on T.V. So he can tell the “truth” about Kerry.
Help him get elected in Mass.
Now that I am on a roll tonight – or not – and we are talking about negative vs positive emails and letters – if the end result is that you accomplish something by being nice – that makes it all the worthwhile – for instance – good ole’ Donna – rather than continue to harass her if that is still being done – remember they gave BO 4 superdelegates which only count 1/2 each – so we lost 2 – but Donna said on CNN that if that would shut us up about Michigan then she would give her vote to Hillary – I think we all should take her up on that one – what a coup to have her vote against him – bottom line only 1 vote lost and we beat her in her own game….that is the way I think when I try to get something done – best way around it and what is the bottom line result. I promise to go to bed and not spout off anymore tonight – Good night all Pumas – keep your thoughts going and never give in. We will reform the Democratic party whether they like it or not.
Goandersen #490 — shut up!
omg!
#497 nhforhillary
I would like for you to talk to him…but there are a few things
1) He really hates politics
2) I don’t know his e-mail
3) He generally votes Republican anyways
I may be able to get you my other uncle’s contact stuff.
He is the Mass. House Speaker. He’s a Dem that does not like BO. However, I don’t know how much help he could be, since he has SS protection, but I will try.
Sorry….I couldn’t be much help…..:(
507 antifish
LOL!
I was waiting to see who would pick up on that one! LOL!
I was just playing off the other night.
Someone thought I was a 17 year old male once on a poker site.
Where is LilyMaid?? I am curious now about how I write.
DWP #501 — serious?
will wonders never cease?
Comment above was 4 superdelegates for Michigan – left that out in my rambling – but I know you all knew that anyway.
#503 InuHanyou1701
I would love to play this out… but I won’t/
I’m not a man.
#495 matt,
There would only be outrage from the MSM if Obama’s opponent had been a man. They were only too happy to see Hillary forced out and actually participated in the process.
#508:
Yes, that’s true…I haven’t got a clue how to make the forum fluid as it is now, but also an organized and pointed response.
I wouldn’t wanted this place to be a forum…like a slow…post forum, because that can be more…isolationist, ya know? Now as close up…I don’t know
#483 nhforhillary,
Well said
Yes, I think it is important for them to see men are also disgusted by the treatment of Hillary and the actions of the DNC. I must remember to make it obvious I am a male in my postings on the internet. That way, they cannot try to stereotype us as a “bunch of angry women”.
Thanks for the greeting Murphy and for the record, I did think you were a man until I saw you on youtube, lol.
Thanks also #471 InuHanyou1701
Shoot, I posted too soon… Murphy would have been fun to trick. lol No offense.
#519 LOL @ my weird spelling. I’m tired. sorry
Murphy… I wonder if that instilled hope in you for the other gender?
wait… let’s not even go there… too much to bear after this primary season.
I also don’t like the stereotype that it’s all “older” women…I’m in my 20′s. An outrage is an outrage–to all, of any age or gender or race
504 snowtiger on 07.07.08 at 12:40 am
That rocks and kool aid is the new invention of Willy Wonka.
I had problems trying to sign up for Digg website, did anyone else cause a fatal error? Maybe I should become a professional hacker? Log onto Nobama website?
lol
I wanted to digg to move article to #1 – somebody else go do it for me??? help a disappointed PUMA
OK, I just give up. I’m a man too!
#517 DancesWithPumas
antifish just had a “surrender dorothy” moment
Jeremy,
Did you catch #469 Anna7000′s post, i believe she meant you instead of jeffrey.
I’m falling asleep sitting here at my computer, I’m just really tired….so I have to say goodnight. See everyone tomorrow
527 antifish
let’s be both!
#508 Dances,
LOL!
Night matt
I beat all stereotypes
I’m a 18 yo male who loves starbucks and is going to college. So take that…..MSM!
g’night matt…
I’m a man too. Good night all.
528 InuHanyou1701
“Nicely done. You really got me! I wonder if all this laughing is good for my health… ”
Of course it is! Although, if you find some day that you’re too happy, read Bastard Out of Carolina. That’ll snap you right out of it.
#520 tadgher99
For me it’s about doing what is right. You don’t value winning at all costs that you (voter) ends up losing more than you gain. The DNC did all voters in America an injustice. Our freedom of choice – wiped out!!!
This link is to some guys singing an old Merle Haggard song I heard today on the radio… just reminded me of a BO speech for some reason. Lots of promise, no substance. Fun song anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-BXY1ilqv8
How do ya’ll refresh for the posts? Is it just hitting the home page again?
That was a joke.
#511 Goalucard,
I like it, but there’s only one problem. Donna is not a woman of her word. She stated she would leave the DNC if the SDs selected the nominee over the will of the people. I believe she’s still on the payroll.
night gay gal
ANNA 7000 SEE POST # 444 – that link shows you who they were for before they switched over – most of them were Hillary to Obama – flip flops.
Shucks Anti Rodam Fish – I let the mouse out of the bag – wanted you to think that I was a woman all this time -
Good night JOhn Boy
night gay gal
541 kat in your hat REFRESH
I click the “refresh” icon on my browser bar.
It’s a pain, esp if you forget. lol
#491 antifish,
My pleasure! I take every opportunity to sound off at any site I come across. I feel very strongly about the whole debacle (my family are somewhat amused by my rantings) I am recruiting a few of my sisters to come vote with me in Nov. I got them to vote for Hillary in the NY primary (they are not interested in politics) My brothers are lost causes but at least they will never vote for Obama, they are McCain folk.
Oh and by the way, I AM a man!! LOL
By the way PUMAs,
) so if you want to add me just send me a message VIA MySpace and I’ll add you that way. (Or you’re welcome to email Murphy and ask her what my email address is. 
). I do not have Facebook as I had a hard time really getting into it.
If I may get off topic for a moment. I do have a MySpace account. http://www.myspace.com/inuyashasboy but you need my last name or email address to add me (Murphy you know my email.
As for the topic earlier about the 8 SD’s to which I sort of responded to. I REALLY hope this trend continues and am confident that it was caused by the report of 42% of registered Democrats wanting to see Hillary as the nominee. That percentage blew my MIND! PUMAs it isn’t too late for the Democratic Party (Call me optimistic from time to time
) so keep up all the great work you’re all doing in writing and emailing SD’s and the DNC and I will continue with you as well of course. You all ROCK!
LOL DancesWithPumas.
Uhh, that’s good advice.
Have no clue why I didn’t think of that
#514 goandersen,
You write like a?
kat in your hat
you mean you’re not a 90 yr old on your deathbed hoping you’ll live long enough to vote in the general election???? Isn’t that the sterotype Obots prefer?
Thanks for being 20 and a thinking individual…It your world that we’re trying to protect. We don’t need Obama telling you or me what to do because he has appointed himself the “wise one”. lol
#545 Goalucard4Hill
Are you flip-flopping on your gender?
543 antifish brazile
That was when Senator Clinton was ahead in the count,
Donna was shilling for him as early as whatever that month was… seems like years at times
Goodnight all its been a long day.
Keep feeding the PUMAS.
And careful antifish. #500. I may like that.
Lol
#532 goandersen,
Done!
#535 matt2008A
*Laughs* 20 year old, non white, male here. There are more of us than the DNC wants people to see.
#530 regarding Anna~ got it and just revised. Thanks for looking out.
#541 Kat you can also hit F5 on your keyboard
nhforhillary:
Ya, apparently I am supposed to be a bitter old “hysterical feminist” like Brazille said.
Meanwhile, even if I WAS older, an elder: There is NO respect for them. I can understand what Harriet meant by “second class citizen”….woman AND an elder.
#538 Dances,
I couldn’t bear to read the book. The movie devastated me for weeks.
anybody see ario lately? He’s male from DC.
#538 dances with pumas
is that the same book that was made into a movie with jennifer jason leigh? very disturbing movie.
Thank you Taffy, F1.
Rumor Alert!
Eight supper delegates switch to Sen. Clinton this weekend, according to Hirehells.com. Scroll to post #57.
http://hireheels.com/blog/2008/07/05/shift-shaft-youre-no-patrick-swayze/#comment-2839
F5!!
#541 kat in your hat
In case no one answered you yet. (When I see something to respond to I stop and respond to it so yeah.) you can hit the refresh button on your browser or, for Internet Explorer (Can’t be sure about FireFox or Mac users as I don’t use either of these) you can also press F5. It should be defaulted as the hotkey for refreshing the page.
F5 kat
Rey: NO WAY!
Really?
“Your girl Hillary” is the term my spouse uses now when I’m online or when I was sitting on the edge of my seat during the primary races. I sent Geoff Garin e-mail and he actually listened to my advice.
ANNA7000
i can’t find the post again but you asked about if someone is taking ideas. we are working on that right now and hopefully will be giving out an email address to send your ideas to to make sure they are seen.
Thank you Taffy, sorry
#561 antifish
I’ve been on page 40 for 15 (?) years.
#563
I didnt see the movie either.
My boyfriend is unsupportive. He’s a republican. He agrees that Obama is “bad” and he tells other people what i tell him about Obama. But he doesn’t want to talk about Puma or anything.
It’s ok though.
TAFFY
EFF FIVE
It’s a miracle!! Thanks.
gaygal — it was a funny joke too.
i’m sitting here chuckling.
DWP #523 — Actually I think it’s a great topic. My sense is that more women than men have been OUTRAGED by what happened this primary season, but that just about as many men as women will NOT vote for Obama. They may not be blogging — may not have been radicalized by what happened. But they’re the silent masses in the Dem Party right now. They won’t be coming around or falling in line either. I mean holy smokes, MILLIONS of men voted for Hillary.
Ya, check the blog. This is definately a great news and it show that the movement is working. Post #57. She’s one of the moderator of the site.
http://hireheels.com/blog/2008/07/05/shift-shaft-youre-no-patrick-swayze/#comment-2839
Taffy, are you in Denver?
551 antifish
I guess you weren’t there that night. I will mail you.
#554 Dances
OK, Dances, now you’ve gone and done it! Antifish Brazile, huh? Well, Dances Dean meet me out back and let’s settle this thing like two grown ?s
I’m curious of how Will can say Hillary received 8 endorsements recently, yet does not know who they were. I’d want facts and sources before I would say that.
I LOVE hearing men getting outraged about how Hillary was treated.
#576 MURPHY
I agree it is a great topic. I was censoring myself because I was going the way of attitude (my own) and my post was an attempt to derail my train of thought.
Goodnight snowtiger
Trish: of course.
#578 DWP yes, i’m in denver so is mini vee and william
#561 ANTIFISH
Hey Antifish,
is that the movie that had jennifer jason leigh? i was horrified by that movie.
Does anybody remember Donna Brazile saying on CNN that the “Democratice? party does not need white blue collar workers? That she said was the “new” Democratic party. I was hopping mad! Also, that they would say in the media that Hillary should reject the “racist” votes! Like everybody who voted for Hillary was racist. Trying to shame us into voting for “o”. Very sickening. That is going to haunt her big time.
Trish — ahem! bit past your bedtime isnt it??
Did anyone here listen to No We Wont blog talk radio tonight? I’d like to know the address of the Real Democrats, was that it? I’d like to put it on my action site. They may be located in NY since they kept mentioning it. I would help. I’m in NYC.
my hubby doesn’t blog but he Hillary supporter going to McCain So are my folks in law and brother and sister in law
# 560 kat in your hat
I made a donation to John McCain for Donna Brazille. lol
I sent her an e-mail telling her that it was an intervention for my PUMA friends, to help her to “stop her hate” (anger management donation). I’d like to see her face when she read that she was getting John McCain donations. Of course I donated to Hillary, but the Donna Brazille donation was very rewarding.
#588 tadgher99
i remember it well! i’m still fuming.
by the way, welcome.
Taffy, you are in Denver? Will you go to the convention site?
I think characterizing us as bitter old whiny bah blah women makes it easier for them to dismiss us, and probably persuades numbers of men from joining our ranks because 1) they dont want to be with bitter old whining women, 2) they don’t want to be identified as anything less than manly men.
588 tadgher99
Brazilla is a disgrace to herself, women, her party, this country and her race!
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide Donna.
Keyword #576, silent masses of the Dem Party. This is something that we need to remember everytime we see “them” on MSM or we see “them” blogging for Barack or when we see “them” visually in any way supporting Barack. The glass is only 1/3 full, if that.
#570 nh,
If we had had Geoff Garin the entire campaign, I think things may have turned out differently. I wrote to him as well, and he answered.
#591 Taffy
I love hearing things like this because it tells me that we have ALOT more PUMAs out there, even if they don’t participate here. I have a friend, whom I’ve mentioned many times, that is a big PUMA supporter but as he doesn’t have internet (Except when he comes over here and bums it off me
) he can’t join us.
Taffy, the reason I asked is, I’ve a reservation at a motel 6 for the convention, and it’s right off 70.
I was wondering about the neighborhood (didnt ask if tehy rented rooms by the hour, shoulda), anyway… wondered if you were famiiar with that area.
#589 murphy
lol I can’t sleep, my mind is going 100 miles a minute.
590 Kat In Your Hat
http://www.RealDemocratsUSA.org
signed up as a maybe. can’t stand for long and have problem with direct sunlight. want to go but waiting to hear the security restrictions. might be that once you get in an area you can’t get out.
My father, husband, step-father, nephew, cousins, and uncles wont be voting for Obama — and they are democrats right down the line.
My grandfather voted for James Michael Curley. Twice, every election.
goanderson: Thank you!
I hear ya Trish — the vibes have definitely Improved!
#597 Jeremy
oh that gives be an idea for a flyer
thanks
#595 dances with pumas
it might keep some men away but i have to say my husband is a “manly man” , a union carpenter, and he goes to work and spreads the word about PUMAs and what was done to Hillary and enlightens people about BO, or at least tries to. Makes me proud
All good men stand beside their wives. They would never have wanted their wives treated like Hillary was and they are just as angry as we are for the most. To bad i didn’t have a good one .LOL I’m happier being alone anyway and i have my PUMA Family
598 antifish on 07.07.08 at 1:07 am #570 nh,
If we had had Geoff Garin the entire campaign
Thumbs up antifish!
#604 murphy
Just in case you had any doubts, I won’t be voting for Obama either
OMG, No one I know will be voting for Obama, except…my oldest best girlfriend from kidhood. She moved to Vermont, she’s very earthy-crunchy now…which is nice, but she doesn’t really follow politics, she’s just…sort of attaching to what is the liberal thing…she’s not extremely bright, thought I LOVE her!
EVERYONE else I know is very anti-Obama, and that’s a lot of folks.
#587 Sheila,
Yes, that’s the movie. Hit very close to home for me.
605 kat in your hat
if you want to sign up for a state contact just send and email with your State ( which ever it is)
i.e. CA@RealDemocratsUSA.org
That is super sheila7 he sounds like a very nice man. Be Proud
**thougH I do love her
#593 sheila7 – I will never forget that one too, I was flabbergasted at her saying that. She is going nowhere fast. Thanks for welcome
#596 goandersen
I agree!! She is over now, I will bring that up until the day I die.
TrishfromCanada :
I guess will find out if it has any creditability in a few days. Else, the person that posted the news seems to acknowledge that it’s credible and she seems to be trustworthy in her source. Enjoy your chat!
613 antifish
Which movie are we talking about?
goanderson: Yes, thank you, so, that is for every state? Should I put that on my action page for instructions?
By the way…
I flyered cars that were parked at the San Diego Zoo yesterday afternoon.
If you live near any venue (train stations, ball fields, zooz, airports) lots o cars… worth flyering (it is now!)
#600 DWP that area ok. there motel6 on each side of highway. both have eating places close by. Even I could walk to them
south side has a village inn north side a carl’s jr. real close. Haven’t been down there in a while but used to have a furr’s on north side. not sure if it still there I can check it out if you want
#618 Rey
No offense intended to the person who reported it. I’m a facts and source person, and possibly a little OCD thrown in there
620 Kat
Yes, they are organizing on a grassroots level in every State.
Dances: That is a BRILLIANT idea! That’s IT! Yes, that’s exactly how to get the fliers out. I didn’t know how to do it exactly, without possibly bugging my neighbors or going to far in other neighborhoods
#613 antifish
i’m sure that was tough to watch then. i had a very hard time with it myself. puma hugs
#621 DancesWithPumas
#602 goandersen,
Just signed up!
Everytime i came in here today there were links. I never had time to talk.Wrote letters went to a few news papers and a couple blogs and wow where did the day go?? hmmm you guys did this on purpose to keep me quiet
Do we have a flyer in the works that lists information about Nobama that can be passed out with our posters.
That is what I want. Something we can pass out that people can take home that will raise questions about Obama. It might be the only information a voter get before they vote. Alot of people aren’t following the campgains yet, and some vote based on word of mouth.
Do we have a Don’t vote Obama flyer?
Do we have a This is what happened in the primaries flyer? Most people don’t have a clue what happened.
I think these are both a must.
goanderson, great. Perfect. I’ll put that up on my blog.
#623 trish from canada
the ocd is probably from the nuns and their clackers. LOL.
hi tadgher99 good to have you here.
628 tadgher99
excellent. Pass it on.
Also: cruccia@ymail.com. This group is organizing for the Swing States. This is a work in progress, so give them some time to respond back to you.
too** far in other neighborhoods. I hate my misspellings.. grr.
Anyway, like I said, I am in NYC, so if you get stickers cooking, I can get SERIOUS play throughout the city. I take trains everywhere.
#619 goanderson,
Bastard Out of Carolina
hi sandipuma
i also didn’t get a chance to talk and i’m getting ready for bed now but wanted to get a quick hello in to you guys!
625 kat in your hat FLYERS
Yes! And the zoo os only four blocks from me, aaand,
most people don’t got to the zoo every weekend, so they’ll be brand new cars to flyer!
631 Kat in your hat
put this one on there as well:
cruccia@ymail.com
Swing State Strategy.
Give them time to respond, they are in the planning stages.
#626 Sheila,
Thank you. Hugs back at cha!
has anyone seen sunnypa recently or wontbackdown?
if you ladies are out there lurking just wanted to say hello.
#629 sandipuma
#637 sheila7
Hi and goodnight then sheila7?
And where is LilyMaid??
TrishfromCanada :
So am I Trish. Just thought I pass it along for food for thought and just incase you folks runout of things to talk about, Cheers!
#630 DONT VOTE FOR OBAMA
I resnt being told who I should or shouldnt vote for… I’d rather be give the facts and decide for myself. I think a “don’t vote for obama” flyer could alienate people.
Even a Why I’m Not Voting for Obama flyer would be better suited. Me thinks
636 antifish
missed that one.
#514 goanderson Here. I repeated personal info about antifish that she had mentioned one night. I had no right to do that, and I have kept quiet since then. I still feel ashamed of my stupidity. I realized that our words are read by so many people. For the time being I plan on doing the daily actions and keeping up with the posts. I am proud of being a Puma and like being a foot soldier. Please, please, this is not meant as anything other than my wanting to do the daily growls before all else, and some days I haven’t done them, but did blogging. Doing the Action is what is important to me. All you Puma bloggers are the best.
If we all stick together, all the anti-obama sites and Hillary voters, we could lick this guy. We have to! I just hope everybody stays strong and sticks together to beat him. There are a lot of sites out there, it is very encouraging!
inuhanyou
i’ll probably be on a few more minutes. i’m trying to catch up on everything since i haven’t been on much this weekend. if i don’t answer i’m not ignoring, just following links and catching up.
#643 goandersen,
Don’t know. Haven’t seen Lily Maid since that night.
#633 sandipuma
Thanks! nice to be here.
GROWWWLLLL ho hum that was a puma yawn. Think i am getting tired i got up at 5 a.m. to a neighbour at my door asking me to call a ambulance for him. So it’s been a long day
#647 Lily Maid,
How long have you been lurking? Makes me feel silly.
#627 InuHanyou1701 Funny!
That’s how it was with teh NY Mets when they first started out. If they caught an easy popup we’d all give them a standing ovation.
tad some days we are so busy and thats a good thing.
647 Lilymaid
Hi!!
I just got really curious about how I write and what is it that you see. Remember that night?
Maybe an email discussion would be best.
marylandpuma can give you my email.
It takes too much time to explain everything about flip flop Obama and to explain what happened in the DNC primaries. Most people are not informed. If we put this information on both sides of a flyer – double sided or on the back of that wonderful poster of Obama…I think it will make a difference. Add our business cards and PUMA info…but give them a reason to be curious.
I have to turn in right about now. Good night all
#638: Dances: It’s an incredible idea. There are so many “temporary” parking venues for me in NYC, since there are so many “things” to visit here.
#639: goanderson: Thank you, I wrote it down. I take notes. I’m such a nerd. Ahem, but a cooool nerd. lol
#649 sheila7
#650 antifish
Don’t worry I’m sure she (he? Gah I hope I am not offensive with incorrect genders….) will be back. It’s hard to stay away from the pac for too long!
tadgger: g’night
tadgher99 – good night
Interesting as TM seeks new work. Wonder if this is her strategy?
The truth is that come November Obama will get the vast majority of Dems. People come home come election time. It may be like the Mondale, Dukakis era, where many Dems hold their nose, but hold them they will.
TaylorMarsh | Homepage |07.05.2008 – 6:00 pm |
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/04/clinton.poll/index.html?iref=w erecommend
as time goes by, less Hill supporters are supporting Obama…her supporters have dropped from 60% to 54% in one month…and Obama has just begun unraveling and pandering…
what incentive do Hill supporters have to vote for this guy when he doesn’t even stand for anything and has no track record or experience…having a D after his name is not enough…
…heck, give him time…if it worked for him he would probably change parties…
…the man cannot be trusted…and for the Obama supporters…get used to it…he is going to break your heart…
…amazing, a guy who has been in the state senate…chicago, no less…and because he had big rallys, a big smile, and the DNC shoving him down the throats of the Democratic base…we are now stuck with him…
…some dems will go home…some will stay home…some will move on…just not buying this brand of Democratic politics…
repost from someone earlier but definitely worth the read…
http://www.bythefault.com/2008/07/06/the-plight-of-the-obama-crowd/
659 kat in your hat
Nerds are good. My favorite nephew is a nerd. A cute one!
#647 LilyMaid
Please do not stop blogging here… you were so interesting the other night and I didn’t get to ask the gazillions (10 or so) questions I wanted to ask you.
@.@ Oh. Nevermind. Hi LilyMaid
Lily Maid,
No need to lurk. If you repeated it, that means I posted it, so I didn’t care who knew it. I don’t want you to feel bad.
Nite tadgher99!
#644 Rey
Nawww WE’ll never run out of things to talk about, there is always a flip flop out there just waiting to be reported
nhforhillary:
It DOES take too long. If you are talking to an Obot: you will lose patience. I’m trying to make my blog sort of self-explanatory as to why I won’t vote for him. It’s still in progress. It’s not a diarist / daily news blog though.
#647 LilyMaid
We all make mistakes. No need to feel bad about it and I’m sure there are no hard feelings! (Though I wouldn’t want to speak for antifish) We love all our PUMAs so please don’t feel that you have to stay away because of a mistake!
So when is Murphy going on Greta’s show?? Or Ellens show?? She would be awesome
#641 sheila7
SunnyPA has been out of town. I think she’s supposed to be back July 6.
Nite Sandi!
goanderson: Yes, I’m a nerd as far as, like…order..and I love to learn, etc, which is actually cool, not nerdish. I’m “cool” socially though, and not so bad looking. (lol–I’m humble and modest…I LIKE that about ME)
JK around…
#653 antifish…LOL..a lurker…I like that word. I get so easily drawn into posting. I have the Puma blog radio station on. Perhaps they are repeating. Harriet was great, feisty.
One person questioned what BHO’s stand on Iraq will be after his visit. He speculated it would be quite similar to John McCains. A BHO supporter said that when BHO says he will listen to the Generals, it is different from McCain’s saying he will listen to the Generals. Poor defense proffered…that BHO wants to get out.
#673 firebellepuma
thank you!
Glad you are back LilyMaid!!
goandersen,
I have not forgotten about what I was supposed to send you on saturday, I didn’t have time to get to it. But its in my mind.
brb: the 41 YO swimmer set an american record today and she’s going to the Olympics, i want to see what she looks like. Dana Torres I think
Dances with pumas,
I just want a flyer with bullet items and maybe internet sites to visit that show some of the issues that Obama has contradicted himself on. Other issues like his record,
votes that show poor judgement. I would not tell anyone who to vote for. Just give them enough information to become informed. Give them cause for reflection. But I believe it should be targeted at our goal of Nobama…just anyone else…vote for your dog.
Just don’t forget our song. We are Family. I have all my sisters/brothers with me.
679 TrishfromCanada
That’s not all that’s in your mind. LOL!
No worries. I know you are busy too.
this might have been discussed but did anyone see larry elder on fox? he had some really good points about BO and he wouldn’t let bob beckel get away with trying to brush it off. i just love watching anyone in the media actually tell the truth!
680 kat in your hat
Did you see Nadal beat Federer today!
LilyMaid,
Thanks for coming back. I wish I could stay, but my little Frodo is scratching up my leg. He’s ready for nite nite. Nite everyone.
681 nhforhillary
yes! exactly! Too bad we didn’t have Fred add something like that to the back of her poster (or maybe they did), I mean she’s having 10,000 of them printed
good night antifish.
682 sandipuma
Good song for us!
Tell Frodo good night too antifish!
night Anti
So did some of you people go into Dr. Lynette Longs site??? She is so great and what a writer. When i was on AOL and she would log on i knew i was going to get the first copy of what she was writing. She absolutely loves Hillary
I have an idea for a flyer for november if the DNC doesn’t get their act together and do the right thing in Denver.
Was thinking of graveyard crosses in a field like you see on the Flanders Field ads, but instead of them being unmarked, they have Hillary’s name on them and it’s crossed out, above the flyer or below, are the words “18 million Unknown Voters”
TRISHFROMCANADA
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just curious if you saw my post #632
Night antifish! Sleep well!
i just want to see bo physically dirty just once he doesn’t do anything that gets any actual dirt on him at least mccain has gone to visit the troops and doesn’t pretty himself up for the cameras all the time!
This is from HillaryClinton.com:
Your contribution is not tax-deductible for federal income tax purposes. An individual may contribute a maximum of $2,300 per election (the 2012 primary and general are separate elections). By submitting your contribution, you agree that the first $2,300 of your contribution is designated for the primary, and any additional amount up to $2,300 is designated for the general election. Corporations and individuals are strictly prohibited from reimbursing another person for making a contribution to Friends of Hillary. To comply with Federal law, we must use best efforts to obtain, maintain, and submit the name, mailing address, occupation and name of employer of individuals whose contributions exceed $200 in an election cycle.
All contributions up to $2,300 paid to HRC on her website go to pay down the debt.
#670 kat in your hat
let us know when its ready, I’d like to read it.
Make sure the “grim beginnings” is in it from June 27th Boston Globe…it would be an eye opener to Obots and his fellow African American supporters.
692 sandipuma
Yeah, I went there earlier. She has some good reads on there.
goanderson i think so too. I sing it everyday it’s in my head to stay
goanderson:
YES! I watched that. Wow, huh? Federer won 5 Wimbledons and Nadal won…one…
I was actually happy for Nadal. He deserved it–seems like a good kid
693 TrishfromCanada
or 18 million unheard voters?
701 kat in your hat
I was so happy for Nadal. That is a really big win for him!
jos did you use her site? Friends of Hillary is for her senate re-election
#697
I take that back.
That’s clearly for the 2012 election.
However, clicking on the Spotlight section donation button takes you to the page for the 2008 debt.
Boy, you try to clear things up and end up making them worse.
#632 sheila7
lol just did. do you remember going to confession as a kid, and you’re dying cause you really didn’t think you were bad so you had to make things up and at the end you had to then confess that it was all a lie. LOL and wow could those priests shout. Then after he gave you penance the nuns wanted to know why he shouted at you and then they’d give you detention. LOL I still think of that and laugh.
Anybody who contributed $20.08 to Hillaryclinton.com I would think they could figure that out (retiring her debt)?!
I am finally unwinding from the day. Feels good
Yeah, he seems sweet. Federer seemed a bit out of sorts…I kept thinking how interesting that the experience was reversed…you know…he won that–not THAT
josgirl
have you seen the recent email from Will Bower regarding links being redirected to Senator Clinton’s senate campaign site?
Lynette always had time for Hillary and she has a little baby too. She’s the one who had that Show One on One
Oh Heavens…too many numbers.
InuHanyou1701…thank you…everyone made me feel good that night and my final input was “purr”, it was the realization afterwards that had me kicking my,well, my body part.
antifish…I had no right mentioning your truck or military service…both commendable, but yours to reveal…so I did it again
DancesWithPumas…my posts tend to be emotional, but lacking substance
goanderson…I read your apologies to someone, you are a Puma I am proud to know, your sensitivity shows your good heart.
nhforhillary: What do you mean? Boston Globe?
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#670 kat in your hat
let us know when its ready, I’d like to read it.
Make sure the “grim beginnings” is in it from June 27th Boston Globe…it would be an eye opener to Obots and his fellow African American supporters.
697 josgirl
There are two different contribution forms on her site. One for pre-senate and the other to pay the campaign debt.
The fine print at the bottom of the forms indicate which you are contributing for.
TOPIC: Contacting 3rd Party Spokespeople on Hillary’s behalf
I promised to post a list of 3rd party celebs & others who have been supporter’s of Hillary’s. Don’t bother with the “this person is for Obama now” or whatever.
But if anyone on the list I am going to post rings your bell, I think you should feel free to look up that person’s contact information and reach out to tell them about PUMA and other Hillary-related sites.
#706 Trish
LOL. yes i do remember that. i would lie to tell my sins because i couldn’t think of any, so i’d say i hit my sister and disrespected my parents then i’d get sweaty and nervous because i was lying and then admit that. i thought about that when my son made his first confession and thought aww poor thing here we go again.
LilyMaid
and most of mine are jibberish
#702 DancesWithPumas
I like unheard also. Is Flanders Field a canadian thing? Sorry if I sound ignorant, cause I am on this topic.
When does Hillary run for the Senate again? usually I am very up on everything…when do I vote for her?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/us/politics/03clinton.html?_r=4&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adx%20nnlx=1215174066-c22jNULrUPXe8+LS8p+n1w&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
This is what a true winner does. Awsome!
PS to goanderson…not sure why you were apologizing because the issue seemed minor, yet it shows your consideration for other’s feelings.
I want her for PRESIDENT. I never thought to look at Senate crap.
TOPIC: 3rd Party Spokespeople
Here’s the list so far:
Ricky Martin
Madonna
Elizabeth Taylor
Kelly Pavlik (middle wieght boxer from OH)
Brittany Mason (Miss Indiana)
Mankiller (former Cherokee Nation Principal Chief, OK)
America Ferrara (Ugly Betty)
Erica Alexander
Jehmu Greene
Melanie Griffith
Peterson Zah (Former First Navaho Chairman and First President of the Navaho Nation, Northern Cheyenne Tribe President (forget his name)
Rob Reiner
Sean Astin
Billie Jean King
LaMafia and The Bolanos Brothers.
Ugly Betty
The WHO
Elvis Costello
Jakob Dylan
Fran Dresher Jack Nickelson
Ellen
Donald Trump (is he really a Democrat..?)
Cramer (Mad Money, whatever that is)
Eva (who is this)
Quincy Jones
Joe Scarborough
Kevin Spacey
Ted Dansen & Mary Stenburger
Barbara Streisand
Trish… our version would be Arlington National Cemetary… crosses…no names
#687 Dances with Pumas – Maybe its not too late. Could you check? It would save PUMAS alot of time explaining why they are protesting DNC. It would also be great if people could distribute them on all across the country, whenever the bus stops somewhere, busy PUMAS spend some time distributing. I think getting the information about Obama out before the people is just as important as getting the information out about what the DNC did.
Maybe it consists of some PUMA writings.
Did he tell you?xxxxxxx
Then he said……
Did he tell you? xxxxxx
Now he says……
712 LilyMaid
Good to get all of that out of the way, huh?
Thank you for that list…hmm, that makes me feel good.
Kevin Spacey is gay, right?
He seems very very smart.
josgirl, this is the email from Will Bower:
Last week, many of you reached into your pockets and generously gave what you could to help pay down Hillary’s campaign debt.
However, the main contribution link at HillaryClinton.com had been redirected towards a different account. Instead of going to pay off her debt, it directed contributions towards her 2012 Senatorial campaign.
If you have any doubt as to where your contribution went, you must contact the financial department at HillaryClinton.com and let them know where you had intended it to go!
For them to be legally able to redirect your donation *back* into her debt fund, you must make your intentions *clear* to them.
Here are four ways you can contact them, to let your intentions be known. Again, this is only for if you are in doubt. If you are confident that your money went to pay off her debt, then you need not pursue this.
bIf you *are* in doubt, please contact (any or all) of the following, and encourage your PUMA contributing friends to do the same:
Finance@HillaryClinton.com
JMantz@HillaryClinton.com (Jonathan Mantz)
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact
phone: 703-962-8600
Thank you, and I hope you had a great holiday weekend!
Will Bower
PUMA
696 Taffy on 07.07.08 at 1:38 am i just want to see bo physically dirty just once he doesn’t do anything that gets any actual dirt on him
Link to #720. Would he be doing this back in Chicago?
hillstheone
wasn’t amber tamblyn also for her? didn’t her and america ferrara do that video together with hillary?
#717 DancesWithPumas…of course…NOT…Murphy makes a daily public thanks to you, and affectionately calls you DWP
#716 sheila7
LOL too funny, things don’t change no matter how far apart people live, catholic school is catholic school
TOPIC: 3rd Party Spokespeople (again)
JOE and VALERIE WILSON (“Plamegate”)
Here is their contact info. and here is the note I sent them tonite:
Joe and Valerie Wilson Legal Support Trust
contact page:
http://www.wilsonsupport.org/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3
phone: 202-408-5565
Hello Joe and Valerie,
There are numerous blog sites supporting Hillary Clinton’s candidacy. With Denver just around the corner, these sites and their memberships are growing at a phenomenal rate.
Sites include http://blog.pumapac.org/ , http://www.18millionvoices.blogspot.com/ ,
http://justsaynodeal.com/ and dozens of others others.
As a lifelong Democrat, precinct worker and voter, I watched with dismay as the wheels of justice turned so slowly for Valerie Plame. For many women, especially, it was a disheartening process to witness and rest assured, many of us are still rooting for you.
However, the main purpose of this message is to inform you that in the minds of millions of her supporters, Hillary Clinton’s candidacy is alive and well. We just do not see Obama as being qualified, experienced, or capable of being the kind of leader our country really needs right now.
We need an organized strategy for withdrawl from Iraq, a strategic plan for both the nation’s energy needs and its economy, someone with a strong understanding of foreign affairs, and a strong universal health care plan, just for starters. Things only Hillary Clinton can really deliver.
In spite of the tight race between McCain and Obama, the mainstream media seems unwilling to recognize the plight of the candidate or the Democratic Party.
So, our eyes turn to you and to other prominent American citizens who have supported Hillary Clinton in the past.
We plan to be at Denver – and finally, our presence and our voices will not go unnoticed by mainstream media.
Won’t you consider joining us in becoming more vocal, once again, in your support of Hillary, and also make plans to come to Denver?
Thank you for your consideration in helping our groups help Hillary to be our next President.
721 LilyMaid
I don’t think that was me.
Well my eyes are starting to look like pee holes in the snow so i guess i better go. Tomorrow supposed to be 113 and a good day to stay inside the air. So i’ll see you all then tc hagn (((PUMAS)))
#724 DancesWithPumas
And there is one cross there marked for the unknown soldier, which represents all those who died in the wars?
LilyMaid,
DWP isn’t a sign of affection, it’s typing burnout! She’s saving strokes to avoid carpel tunnel syndrome. : )
See, here’s my only concern. NYC is uber clean now. So, I would go around with a backpack of stickers and fliers, and, you know it’s not really so legal here. I would be like…street trooper…lol.
Like, back in the day, we were all able to staple posts, etc, but not anymore.
Anyway, who cares, it’s such a good idea for me to go to event sites and leaf cars, etc…I’ll do it.
Probably if a cop bothered me, they would be voting for McCain ANYWAY, lol.
#719 kat in your hat
2013
hello all … just donated for the Denver trip…i hope using my credit card on-line is safe….i have been a victim of idenity fraud… i can’t go but wanted to help!!
sandipuma: g’night
Trish: thanks
goodnight SANDIPUMA
735 sandipuma
LOL!
I hope we end up in the same cell in Denver! You are too funny!
I want to go to Denver!!
kat in the hat LOL
I’d be careful of stickers though…
It’s akin to politicians who post a million signs all over the freeways and roads, and on fences, and theyre still up months after the election. Litter, a blight, an ey sore, aesthetically unpleasing (especially for those of us who didn’t vote for them).
sheila7: I’m not sure about Amber, but if you want to write to her I think that would be great.
I’m off to beddie-by now! My puma kittens also need rounding up.. night-night.
Corrupt Obama might pay off the coppers to get us though
Night sandipuma
Night hillstheone!
Dances: Well, I would only do it for JSND and PUMA, not for a candidate. it IS vandalism to do the stickers, but…NYC is kinds funny, movements have started with graffiti and art before..
kinda* funny…
good night hillstheone
Confession…I HAD to go every week. Said the same two things. One, I disobeyed my parents. Two, I lied. Said these things every week. I never knew others did the same because I never thought about it. If I disobeyed my parents, believe me, I was punished enough.
Goodnight sandipuma and hillstheone! (Sorry I’m slow everyone. Suddenly I have 5 windows up. ^.^; )
Good Night All!
733 hillstheone on 07.07.08 at 1:49 am
Go to the action page and then click on alerts. Mail me for additional information regarding your post. Thanks.
kat in your hat
theyre probably all in gahoots (sp)and the Denver plan is a conspiracy…
we’ll all be in denver and they’ll all be having their convention in phoenix…
August 24 comes around and we’ll hear the echoes up through the deserts and canyons of teh Phoenix Convention yelling in unison: August Fools!!
HAD to go to what? Church?
Night goandersen! (I think?)
LMAO! Dances,
I already thought of that.
OMG. I’ve become absolutely suspicious of all things “O” I swear, I can imagine that!
Hi, I used to be Witchy 1, but yesterday I got rid of my google toolbar and had to rejoin the pac and Blog. Unfortunitely, WordPress would not allow me to use Witchy 1 as a user name again, so I had to change to WitchyWA. When I tried to register, I managed to mispell my email address, so had to rejoin and re-register again, and had to create a new email address to register. So it’s still me, Witchy 1, but I can’t use the name anymore, WordPress won’t allow it. Had I known the trouble it would cause me, I would have kept the toolbar, unfortunately it had info stored I didn’t want available since I lost my Wallet and BankCard(my number was stored there and since Google has used my info to have me classed as a troll, I didn’t want anyone to have access to my card number. I hope that clears everything up, I am not a troll, but a ClintonDemocrat who wants to see her be president this year.
goanderson. g’night, hon.
760 InuHanyou1701
yes, I am going to sleep now.
I have a myspace too. Wanna join?
#754Lilymaid
LOL. i think everyone did it. it was like once you were in there it was like being on stage and i would get nervous. how ridiculous! those were the 2 things i said and then sometimes threw in i hit my sister. LOL.
sorry to anyone who didn’t grow up catholic, you kind of have to live it to appreciate the humor.
Later on goanderson #756
Have a good week!
good night goandersen- also didn’t get a chance to say hi
sorry kat in your hat- confession
brb
751 kat in your hat
I grew up in Manhattan…
was there for “ban the bomb” demonstrations, the 60s the black, women’s, gay/lesbian liberation movements.
Yes, I’m old. bitter. whiny. and pissed off.
By the way… wish we were geogrphically closer…
anyone who uses the term “coppers” is worth being around.
(“brb” means “be right back” in case anyone is looking at me like I am nuts)
sheila7: confession?
Ohhh, yes, Catholic time. Major part of my family is Catholic.
dances with pumas
i hope you don’t take this the wrong way because it’s hard to get your point across in just words sometimes, but i thought you were fairly young, younger than me (i turn 41 today) .
Lilly Maid
by the way, there is a blogger here by the name DWP…
I think this is all a case of mistaken identity.
#763 goandersen
Love to! I left the link upthread. Just message me and I’ll respond with the friend invite.
Sorry for the security but the spam invites were so bad you wouldn’t BELIEVE it! And just making sure. 
Goodnight.
#xxx kat in your hat…sorry I got thrown off, anyways.
The Boston Globe did an article on Obamas “Grim beginnings in the Chicago senate….he got hundreds of millions into the hands of developers like Rezko to build government housing projects all across Chicago. Then these private developers found that they couldn’t manage them with the funds that the government seems to be able to manage on fine. The end result is that they are rat infest, sewage backedup, uninhabitable dwellings that the government had to take back. Obama helped make the slums of Chicago what they are today.
Crime ridden and he “hoodwinked” his own state. It would turn an Obots head around until it twisted off!
kat in your hat
let us know when its ready, I’d like to read it.
Make sure the “grim beginnings” is in it from June 27th Boston Globe…it would be an eye opener to Obots and his fellow African American supporters.
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If that’s the Alice Palmer story,there’s a long account of it with good quotes here:
“Showing his bare knuckles
In first campaign, Obama revealed hard-edged, uncompromising side in eliminating party rivals”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0704030881apr04,0,6468332.story
He knocked ALL his opponents off the ballot, including the beloved ‘elder stateswoman’ who had befriended and recommended him, getting him onto the ballot in the first place, Alice Palmer
#771 sheila7
no offense taken. I’m immature and don’t express myself well, or maybe I express my self well enough, but my thinking is faulty, doesnt follow a rational sequence… or something lol
PS HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHEILA!!!!! and many happy returns of the day!
#776 danceswithpumas
thank you for the birtthday wishes
actually you express yourself very well and not at all immature. you just seem to think like a “young person” an intelligent young person. i mean this in a good way, like maybe the word i’m looking for is fresh.
kat you back yet? I posted the Boston Globe info
Trish,
Aside from his blunder, I think the people that supported him are also making their own statement as well. Add that to the flip flop, inexperience, afilliation to certain group and it’s a perfect painting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc7B_s1CcIM&eurl=http://hcsfjm.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvM3XX6Q4I&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C7roZaqIS-c
danceswithpumas
isn’t it interesting to find out how others perceive you? i’m sometimes amazed at what people think about me.
#777 sheila7
Well, thank you for that! Very nice of you to say.
I should leave while I’m still ahead!
#751:
Dances: LOL! Is “coppers” strange? My friends think so.
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Sheila: Happy BIRTHDAY!!!
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nhforhillary: Oh yes, I know all about Rezko and Rezmar Corp. Disgusting the way Obama and his friends treated those poor blacks, probably latinos and poor whites too. Left them for DEAD in their city apts.
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turndown: yes, I also know about Alice Palmer. Terrible. Here is my site, it’s not done. CRAP keeps piling up!!
Investigate Barack Obama
http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/
KATINYOURHAT
thank you!
At first I was on google, but “they” GOT ME, I am sure you heard, so then I started wordpress, but now google is back open–I got a big company apology, probably because we were in NYT.
Anyway, I am still building it up. Not a daily news/ diarist site…I just wanted a place to put stuff about the primary season.
I never ever wanted to start a blog. The STUPID media made me feel morally FORCED to start one since I knew so much crap about O-head.
Alright PUMAs! Work tomorrow so I had better head on to bed. Sorry I couldn’t be here longer (And less distracted =/). Hopefully I will be able to see you earlier tomorrow! Have a great night! (And Happy birthday Sheila7!)
#780 sheila7
Absolutely! Although I could get on quite well without some of the feedback I’ve received in my lifetime, but, I get your point.
Honestly, when I’m surprised by positive feedback, I hear it more as a reflection of whomever is giving it. I think you have to have the qualities within yourself in order to recognize the same in others. It’s much easy to absorb negative feedback, for some unknown to me, reason.
So I feel that I’ve learned something about you this evening/ We’ll call it generousity of spirit.
INUHANYOU1701
thank you and good night!
sheila: how old are ya babes?
Happy Birthday Sheila… I will 41 next month!!
will be
#772 DancesWithPumas…I do think Murphy refers to you as DWP, example…Your comment #501, and Murphy laughing in her comment #515. You do great work DancesWithPumas.
Kat in the Hat – Boston Globe article is posted on
Clintondems.com website
Do a google search for : Boston Globe Obama Grim proving ground
Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy
Posted on June 27th, 2008 by NoTyrants
Boston Globe
By Binyamin Appelbaum
The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair.
783 kat in your hat
“Coppers” is such an old term… and very popular in James Cagney gansta movies (do you know who he was?) Everyone used to imitate him saying “Whyyyyyyyy, you dirty coppers…”
007girl: ah: 41, so ya heard about the lady swimmer who at 41 YEARS OLD beat the pants off of teenagers and 20 somethings in the finalist Olympic competion today??
Fanteffingtastic. SO inspiring. Going to the Olympics! 41.
#787 danceswithpumas
thank you. that is a nice thought for me to head off to bed with. have a good night and everyone else have a good night also.
Dances–lol, Yes, I know James Cagney.
I grew up without cable (last person in the world) and I only watched black and white shows on my non-cable tv –13 inch in my bedroom. Mom said NO CABLE. So, I am off on movies, etc. I see movies uncensored even NOW and I’m like, OH! wow! lol
#772 LilyMaid
Thank you very much.
007 thanks! happy birthday early to you
katinyourhat- you probably saw by now but i turn 41 at 8:25am today!
Congrats sheila: 40′s are supposed to be awesome. I am looking forward to 30. Seriously.
Kat in the Hat
Thanks for your site link.
The Boston globe article is very convincing.
I don’t think they like Mr. O
Anyways, there is the first anti-Obama book scheduled to be released in August..can’t wait. By the same guy that wrote the book that swiftboated Kerry. He took time off to do this project…he wants voters to know the candidate
Well, someone mentioned the “w” word, and I have to be at work by 7 AM, and as much as I would love to stay and bask in your generous compliments, I must bit adieu, adios, ciao.
Night all . See you youts again soons
Time for this puma to get some purrrrr time.
#800 kat
30′s were good but i’ll tell ya, it’s all starting to come together in the last year or so for me. hard to explain but i know who i am, know life is too short to waste on nonsense and i even started back to school this year to finish my degree. (you know, i’m a bitter uneducated small town white woman). are you almost 30?
good night dances and nh for hillary
i too must get to bed but i have a hard time breaking away sometimes!
Dances: g’night babe, but you can’t call it “work,” ya gotta call it “wack” like I do. Gotta go to wack. lol. G’night babes.
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nhforhillary: YES! OMG, I canNOT wait for that book! My honest FEAR is that the writer didn’t dig deep enough and does not know ALL the details. That would frustrate me terribly. I hope he knows more than all of us combined and the book can be INSANE HARD-CORE O–BOOM.
I would love that.
sheila: Nah, not yet “almost” still mid-20′s but I’ve lived a big life, so I am an old soul, so to speak.
I am beginning what you are talking about. An ownership of my life. It’s scary and empowering and alone and together at the same time!
kat
i tried to post but something weird happened. anyway, it is scary but embrace who you are and never let anyone try to change who and what you are, they will try, but hang tough and by your 40′s you will be strong and empowered. sorry if i’m preachy and i don’t know but this might post 3 times because i tried 3 times to post it.
ok if anyone is left, good night and hopefully i will see you tomorrow.
sheila: lol, I know, it froze up, I think. Nah, it’s not preachy. Wisdom is not preachy. Thank you. Yeah, by my 40′s I’ll probably be less patient with people….but in a good way. I will know what i want. period.
G’night Sheila. G’night all.
I’ll stop by again soon.
Murphy still here — but not for long.
Goodnight All!
Big week planned!
I went to check out the poll on the PA democratic website (results came out yesterday), and for Q1: Should Democrats be expected to support Obama regardless of how they voted in the Primary election? 73% voted NO!
I also saw some totally awesome PUMA comments on their blog, and ironically, no HOUND comments. LOL
good morning everyone
Good morning everyone: TrishfromCandad you are up early. I have a question. If the RBC had played by the rules, what is Senator Clinton’s delegate count? I know she received 4 less because they were given to O, but the uncommitted went to him as well, so according to the rules, he should not have received those either. Is there a way to find out the actual delegates she has?
Good morning Pumas, are we ready to ROAR!!
Morning All — First of many new Action posts is up.
Today is a new day!
Take it upstairs!
AN IMPORTANT PDF LINK FOR THE ACTION CENTER
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DNC
Democratic National Committee
CALL
For The 2008
Democratic National Convention
Issued by the Democratic Party of the United States
Governor Howard Dean, Chairman
As Adopted by the Democratic National Committee, February 2, 2007
Democratic Party Headquarters
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/981e3333676783e79f_rcm6beihu.pdf
A fair-minded article about the May 31st DNC meeting:
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SPLITTING MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA BABIES; UNFYING THE PARTY
PLUS: Wexler for Veep!
“I should say first off I don’t have a dog in the hunt. I support neither Obama nor Clinton in this nomination race and couldn’t tell you now whether I’d vote for either of them next November. I’ve stated long ago that both of those candidates have plenty of supporters, so I’ll be supporting the voters this year, since they don’t have nearly enough support.”
“With that said, this morning’s meeting in the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee (RBC) has been an interesting one to watch. All sides in the unfortunate matters of fighting over how to seat (or not) the delegations from Florida and Michigan at this year’s national convention have argued smartly for their various cases.”
Read More…
PART 1
http://www.bradblog.com/?cat=123
PART 2
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6032#more-6032
Wish I could be there for your BBQ&Beer. Sound like mucho fun. I live in France (4 a little while longer) I’m a caterer here. And guess what? I cater AMERICAN food. Yep! They love it! Well, I cater to Brits actually, who found American food is more palatable than French food. I have repeat clients every year. They hired me over French Chefs. How’s that for AMERICA 4 EVER.
Well blogging is the only thing I can do from here. but my God I get my posts deleted.all the time. I gave up, until carla send me yours. I love pumas they’re fighsty. They don’t go down without a good fight. Keep up the good work PUMAS I’m with you.
In reply to someone who said.” Mc Cain has to earn my vote” I say
Ask not what your vote can do for you rather ask what your vote can do for your country.
Ask me not who i am voting for, but rather ask me what I am voting for.
Senator McCain has proven himself throughout his life.
Election campaign is and as it should be “Showtime”
But if you are still back stage in make up and rehersal, Mc Cain had several standing ovations. Can you feel it.
Obama wants a bigger stage to fit his head in it.
email: lsye10114@gmail.com.
Dear PUMA
After reading Novak’s snide little piece in the Washington Post, I have a far better alternative than throwing vast amounts of your money away on Obama.
You can send it to me and other Politically Shaffted-Americans instead.
I have yet to benefit from one single entitlement in my long life while the Obamas have yet to have done anything other than accumulate an accretion of them.
Of which he thinks the presidency is his by right as the top cherry on the sundae.
I promise to evenly split whatever you send with someone else who can’t keep up in this economically-depressed area who needs it, too.
Look at it this way. You’ll be doing two people at once some actual real good instead of throwing your money away by helping a hologram self-promote his ego and do some possible future damage to your country.
And it is a way to positively register how turned-off you must be by all this by doing something good.
If you really do need a title you can consider yourself a Constructive Pragmatist.
As for how I intend to vote, I am writing in Hillary Clinton and have been advising everyone else to do so too rather than voting for McCain.
It is really a shock to me to find out how few people know that is possible.
gandolina(at)hotmail.com
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