“I see a great nation, upon a great continent, blessed with a great wealth of natural resources. Its hundred and thirty million people are at peace among themselves; they are making their country a good neighbor among the nations. I see a United States which can demonstrate that, under democratic methods of government, national wealth can be translated into a spreading volume of human comforts hitherto unknown, and the lowest standard of living can be raised far above the level of mere subsistence.
But here is the challenge to our democracy: In this nation I see tens of millions of its citizens–a substantial part of its whole population–who at this very moment are denied the greater part of what the very lowest standards of today call the necessities of life.
I see millions of families trying to live on incomes so meager that the pall of family disaster hangs over them day by day.
I see millions whose daily lives in city and on farm continue under conditions labeled indecent by a so-called polite society half a century ago.
I see millions denied education, recreation, and the opportunity to better their lot and the lot of their children.
I see millions lacking the means to buy the products of farm and factory and by their poverty denying work and productiveness to many other millions.
I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished.
It is not in despair that I paint you that picture. I paint it for you in hope–because the Nation, seeing and understanding the injustice in it, proposes to paint it out. We are determined to make every American citizen the subject of his country’s interest and concern; and we will never regard any faithful law-abiding group within our borders as superfluous. The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.
If I know aught of the spirit and purpose of our Nation, we will not listen to Comfort, Opportunism, and Timidity. We will carry on.
Overwhelmingly, we of the Republic are men and women of good will; men and women who have more than warm hearts of dedication; men and women who have cool heads and willing hands of practical purpose as well. They will insist that every agency of popular government use effective instruments to carry out their will.
Government is competent when all who compose it work as trustees for the whole people. It can make constant progress when it keeps abreast of all the facts. It can obtain justified support and legitimate criticism when the people receive true information of all that government does.
If I know aught of the will of our people, they will demand that these conditions of effective government shall be created and maintained. They will demand a nation uncorrupted by cancers of injustice and, therefore, strong among the nations in its example of the will to peace.
Today we reconsecrate our country to long-cherished ideals in a suddenly changed civilization. In every land there are always at work forces that drive men apart and forces that draw men together. In our personal ambitions we are individualists. But in our seeking for economic and political progress as a nation, we all go up, or else we all go down, as one people.
To maintain a democracy of effort requires a vast amount of patience in dealing with differing methods, a vast amount of humility. But out of the confusion of many voices rises an understanding of dominant public need. Then political leadership can voice common ideals, and aid in their realization.”
– Franklin D. Roosevelt, Second Inaugural Address, January 20, 1937
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I agree cosmeta below….this is really all about
“Selected not Elected”
Our Hillary never had a chance to be elected. The decision was made before the Primary was started by the DNC to anoint Obama with the nomination!!!
Hi Pumas – back from checking sites & commenting – need to go chk a few more – just to see what else is happening – also gotta get outside – is gorgeous again today here – hot but I remember winter ….
well I guess I wont be able to read even the blogs, upstairs there is only 2 posts under the thread the voice of voters etc.
New to the web site. Confused. What’s PUMA about? Read the quote. Not sure who Amanda is?
I am out of town in mountains and only have dial up (and barely have that). It takes forever to connect. I sent my July 4 contirubution to Hillary and I am planning on going to convention so will send my info soon. I have not been able to read through all the blogs so if any thing major please post. Puting up posters where I am.
Repost from downstairs…..T-shirt idea…Dean,Pelosi and Brazille with their fingers up their noses…caption…Any chance you will ever pick a winner!
i think the site is lagging or people are busy.
Welcome Anna7000
“Government is competent when all who compose it work as trustees for the whole people. It can make constant progress when it keeps abreast of all the facts. It can obtain justified support and legitimate criticism when the people receive true information of all that government does.”
Now can we make some of the elected officials that are there because we voted them in, to understand this?
#6 michelle47
lol that’s just gross
#6 michelle47
I posted downstairs….I LOVE IT!!!
Welcome Anne7000
Trish…I think that people are out and about, or maybe watching Wimbledon, as I am (was).
I’m off to look at other threads and sites…
#10 Thanks maybe I’ll make that one myself!
REQUEST:
I’ve been noticing that some blogs are just beginning to get active as PUMA groups (wanting to channel their energies to manifest change (pardon the expression), but they are just beginning to organize, brainstorm, and most of their ideas are duplications of things we’ve already done and for which we already have the resources. It seems we could save them some time, in terms of reinventing the wheel, by directing them to both PUMApac.org and pumapacusa.org.
So, I’m asking:
Is anyone available / willing to compose something that I could post at various blogs to inform people
1) that we have an Action Center with a ton of resources available (flyers, t-shirts, business card, posters, lists of SDs and media contacts, etc.).
2) informing them of our Daily Growls and Actions
3) informing them of our methods and means of out reach to those who are isolated and unaware of PUMA?
4) the kind of assistance / skills we need and are soliciting for
5) any items I’ve missed.
Good morning/afternoon PUMAS. Sorry, for the OT but… If you’re not familiar with BO’s birth certificate issue, Texas Darling has a great technical analysis of why the two posted on Kos and BO’s website is a fake.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/polariks-theory-on-obamas-birth-certificate/#comment-2631
There’s a petition now to push to have BO show the real thing:
http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/
DWP #13, may I suggest that you copy and paste your post everywhere you go? It’s perfectly stated as is.
#4 all we need are numbers to add to our growing Voice!
OK all, in reference to some of the posts downstairs,
#88drgav, #117 csuzeq, #228 vonay and #278madazzhel-
I hate to beat a dead horse but I am with all of you in voting for McCain.
I have NEVER voted Republican, I don’t agree with many of his policies BUT I do feel he is the better candidate of the two.
And my real hope is that if BO is the nominee, he loses in a LANDSLIDE. I think it is the only way to wake up the DNC to see that we mean business. They keep regurgitating this crap about us needing time to “heal”. Puh-leez! If BO does not lose by a landslide, they will still not get it.
That is why I am voting for McCain.
BTW- what did it for me early on in the primaries- did anyone catch the debate where Barry held Hillary’s chair? What a condescending misogynist!
I’m starting to feel sorry for the Obamobots, Imagine having to check the news media every single day to discover what positions your candidate is holding. You could be speaking quite eleguently, trying very hard to impress your friends and neighbors and by the time you finish, flip-flop . . . his position has changed. Must be quite disheartening.
#15 Murphy
Will do. Thanks.
Hi, PUMAs!
There is a great post “PUMA CALL TO DNC DELEGATES” at Clinton Democrats:
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/must-read-and-pass-along-to-all-you-know/
good for sending to Delegates and SD.
Don’t know if you have talked about it already, but just in case, I think it’s a good letter to send to all!
I like Franklin D. Roosevelt. was a cool president. one of the best.
Alright Pumas, I just sent my email to go to Denver!!! I am so excited, I hope that I can pull it together! I have a tent, a sleeping bag and enough money for baloney sandwiches, but I’m going. I will be camping, so I hope that I will be surrounded by Pumas! I am fifty years old, this is the first campaign I have ever been involved with, and I love it!
My seven kids are going to worry themselves sick, but mom will be alright. I have never gone on a trip alone, but I will have the support of my Puma family. I will admit, I am afraid to be so far from home, but some of you will travel many more miles than me.
Thanks so much for this amazing opportunity Murphy and Pumas, I will never forget this or your kindness in getting me there.
One Love
mpdamon wrote:
“I’m starting to feel sorry for the Obamobots, Imagine having to check the news media every single day to discover what positions your candidate is holding…”
They knew the job was dangerous when they took it Fred..
I see that some of Sen. Clintons supporters are planning on not voting come November. Bad idea Pumas.
First for every vote you give Sen. McCain BO needs two to move ahead.
For every one that dosen’t vote he only needs one too move ahead.
I know some of you feel bad about voting for Sen. McCain but please look at the alternative come November.
BO would sooner have you stay home in November than to vote for McCain.
Just a thought.
I haven’t had time to read the blog, so I’m sorry if this is a repeat.”
I’m glad that the polls are starting to show that people are not switching over to BO no matter how much misinformation we get from the MSM. Also, more people have started to say that HC should be the Democrat’s presidential nominee! -Lara08
CNN
“Poll: Some Clinton Supporters Still Not Embracing Obama”
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/04/clinton.poll/
(re-post from downstairs, in the spirit of strength in diverse unity)
I’m from Boston. Twenty years ago, I was a sports fanatic. In the spring, when the seasons overlapped, I had one television set broadcasting the Celtics; another the Red Sox. My boyfriend played for the Patriots. I remember, my friends and I were watching the playoffs between the Celtics and the Lakers , transfixed. We agreed, at that moment, it didn’t matter to us which team won or lost; this was good ball.
Whether our political party affiliation is Republican or Democrat; or whether we are Unaffiliated or Independent, it seems to me, all who are on board with P.U.M.A. are dedicated to making sure that the parties are playing ‘good ball.’
Murphy: Your post of Roosevelt’s words could not be more appropriate. Roosevelt is an example of precisely what The Democratic Party has stood for and will stand for again. Nothing less than that is acceptable. I hope everyone here reads and rereads his words.
I just had a thought (don’t get too excited lol) but do you think its possible, if we had a petition, that somehow we could build up enough demand to see *61’s REAL birth certificate?
I saw a video on youtube that seems to have some pretty good info about his past. Here’s the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXNLLAk9gek
It just doesn’t seem like he’s really eligible…otherwise he wouldn’t have a problem showing us the real certificate…
hi PUMAS anyone watching Fox News.. A movie in the works about Obumbus
New Orleans PUMA:
I lurk alot and post rarely, though I have been part of PUMA since the beginning. Just saw your reply to my post on July 1st concerning the NYT Schaller analysis about race in the South. Thanks for the support. While I have always been a HRC supporter, early in the campaign I could envision myself voting for Obama, despite his very thin resume, if he became the nominee- but once the race card was played, I was stunned. While we have all felt outrage at the race-baiting of the Obama campaign, anyone who is a liberal Southerner knows the absolute anguish this as caused those of us hailing from the South. When the Obama campaign/surrogates began using race as a weapon, I felt like a victim of blunt force trauma to the chest. I still feel immense pain in my heart from the blows and I have yet to catch my breath. I have voted as a Democrat since 1976 and I cannot believe what has happened to our party. The great uniter and the complicit DNC leadership have destroyed our party. WE are the base! We have to take a our party back! I cannot bring myself to vote Republican…
I’m sure Howie likes the Movie iea
#13 DancesWithPumas
#15 murphy
OB and company may be trying to split the opposition. If sites are legit, interested in noobama unity, they can link to JustSayNoDeal coalition.
Directing to JustSayNoDeal, Pumapac, is a great strategy, keeping focus, “staying on message”.
DancesWithPumas’s copy is great, good to take surfing, blogging. Thanks
well said 29
Dear Friends,
I’m sorry to see there’s been unhappiness on the blog again this morning. I’ve only skimmed the recent posts, so I don’t know all the history. But I think I understand part of the problem.
We’re all enthusiastic, conscientious, results-oriented Pumas who can’t understand why it takes so frickin’ long for the DNC and others to wake up to what’s happening and to restore sanity by making Hillary our nominee. To us, the answer is simple. Why the heck can’t everyone else see it?
At the risk of speaking out of turn … this is, after all, Murphy’s gig … I offer the following thoughts.
One, let us enjoy the “story.” No story worth reading, no movie worth watching, is without conflict and obstacles. Sure, we wanted Hillary to cinch the nomination months ago, but she didn’t. So this raises the stakes and builds the suspense. When our heroine emerges victorious, it will make her victory that much sweeter.
This turn of events also makes audience participation that much greater. If Hillary had won the nomination earlier and was now up against McCain, we wouldn’t be nearly as energized as we our now. We’d perhaps be more complacent, believing that our heroine could easily defeat McCain.
But look at us. Look at how energized we are. Look at how “ordinary” citizens have stepped into an “extraordinary world” to participate in things we’ve never done before. That’s exciting. And that’s what good “story” is all about.
And when Obama self-destructs before the convention, and our heroine is made the nominee, imagine the increased excitement and frenzy of the come-from-behind race. And we’ll have been a part of making that happen.
So, dear Pumas, enjoy the story about to unfold. Embrace the conflict and the obstacles as part of what makes this story so exciting.
Two, on the issue of our posts, I like to keep in mind that blogs reflect what the candidates inspire in their followers. We’ve seen the hatred in Obama supporters … the hatred Obama inspires in them. Let’s make our blog reflect the greatness that Hillary inspires in us. The compassion. The understanding. The willingness to accept and openly discuss other points of view.
And let’s make Hillary proud. Let’s consider how Hillary would feel if she were reading our posts every day. That doesn’t mean we can’t sometimes be silly or vent our frustrations. (I’ll be the first to admit I sometimes push the envelope.) But if we write as if Hillary were reading everything, we can keep our posts friendly, supportive, and wonderful.
#4Anna7000: Welcome, indeed! Please push the About button on top of the page. It will bring you to information regarding the nature of this group. Since PumaPac began only a month ago, some individuals have tried to muddy the waters by asserting the group is some kind of underground, underthetable attempt by Republicans to confuse people. PumPac as the “About”
section asserts has very specific immediate and long term goals . We welcome everyone who supports those goals. Join the fun! It can get a little wild around here on this blog, but that is because there are so many bright, passionate people with lots of ideas. I hope you will join the Pac and together all of us will continue to make a difference for our country.
#33 Firebelle Puma
Exactly.
As you all know I am new here, but all families don’t agree 100% of the time.
We are all on the same page, we just read that page different sometimes.
Please lets all take a deep breath and remember why we are here, because we must count on everyone come November or we are lost.
I thought that I would repost this from downstairs.
I think if you are a Independent you can not vote for anyone but a independent in the GE but as a Unafilliated you can vote for anyone
#33 Firebelle Puma
Excellant post!!!
Hillaryhead–How dare you, I’m not a troll, I just have a hard time explaining myself, you can call me whatever you want, but check facts before you say anything to anyone you dont know!!!
Mija– No, I dont like being in the spotlight, I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks from something so horrific you, or any of you wouldnt be able to handle, I’m doing my best not to have any attack whatsoever, but when I see something happening I wont sit still, even if it does give me an attack, that is one reason I think things have changed, the fact that when someone gives an opinion that doesnt agree with anyone you automatically call them a troll, its like the Obama people, if you dont agree with me then your a troll, poeple are allowed to voice what they are feeling, they dont always have to go with the flow, yes we are here to help the dem party, but mostlly for me, its for HILLARY!!!
So if anyone else has a problem tough
Sorry Murphy that was the last straw, good luck, I know you’ll bring everything together, I would say more but I dont want anyone thinking I have a fetish for you, god, I’m sorry for all of you out there who has to put up with people who judge without knowing facts. GOOD LUCK
your very right Bradford . I agree on that one
Correction:
#33 Firebelle Puma
Excellant post!!
TREE
i posted on other thread at bottom. please read.
Hey tree comes in here all the time. Please don’t say such a thing.
#31 hillaryhead (love the name)
I was talking about credible PUMA sites that I visit regularly, whose members have been active individually and are now trying to join forces with each other as a group. Not all PUMA sites are organized in the ways we are, and not all have the quantity / quality of resources that we have.
I will duplicate and modify my post to include an invitation to PUMApac for posting at more obscure sites, some of which are connected to local newspapers, etc.
Excellent!!! Twice I spelled it wrong!!
Good Afternoon PUMAs, have been out of touch for a couple of days, trying to catch up.
I have a question for you:
What did the PUMA say to the DNC?
Answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=1hPxGmTGarM&feature=related
#4 Anna 7000
I can’t remember Amanda’s last name but she basically attacked pumas and said we were really republicans.
#14 I signed the petition but did not get a confirmation e-mail. This needs to be sent to the news media. Why don’t we use those e-mail addresses for the media and officials we’ve been using.
well said firebelle and welcome anna700
hi AbinNY welcome and good to see you
I feel we should leave the troll decisions to Murphy. She can spot them a mile away, and I do not feel it is in our place to call anyone a troll. IMHO In posting, things are not always taken as they would be if you were talking face to face.
Let’s please keep this board positive – positive that we can take back the Dem party and defeat BO. If we all had the same opinions, life would be so boring.
(Gee, can ya tell I am a retired therapist). LOL
#29tstrainor: I understand. Your words are accurate;however, I,still an idealist at 62, am also a pragmatist when it comes to election day. My pragmatic mind says and knows from experience that on election day, the only thing that matters is where my vote goes: does it go to defeat the most dangerous phenomenon to appear in this country ever, as I conclude the Obama train is, or does it go to stop it?
As a Southerner are you familar with the old phrase…”I would vote for a “yeller” dog before I would ever vote for a Republican?”..Well I am that kind of Democrat;however, there was more to that phrase that did not come down in the oral history of it…the next part said…unless you want me to vote for something less than that….Got that? This daughter of a union machinist who organized almost every machine shop in the City of New Orleans is telling you….We cannot vote for something less….Think about that for a while, my Southern cohort and tell me what you think.
Good God.
Can we all agree to agree to keep our eyes on the prize?
If any of us has a complaint, can we just state it as best we can, and try to come up with a solution?
This hurt feelings, drama, the endless “I’m leaving and never coming back”, “welcome bacK we missed you”, stuff is not only frustrating, it’s a huge distraction, emotionally draining, and a complete waste of time and space threaded throughout several blogs over several days.
Enough already.
#33 Firebelle Puma
Dear Friends,
I’m sorry to see there’s been unhappiness on the blog again this morning.
____________________________________________
Mine is not unhappiness but vigilance against distraction from Puma’s mission by anonymous Obamaites.
Politics is a contact sport and Pumas, JustSayNoDealers are finding this out, in their honest participation as a newcomer force. The fact that the party faithful, the MSM, are reacting as they are means Pumas actions, JustSayNoDeals efforts, are WORKING.
It is hard to stay honest if dishonesty comes from the outside in disguise. Non Pumas and JustSayNoDealers, coalition members, want disruption.
We ARE okay.
We are forging on, blazing a new trail, in the virgin forest of REALLY new politics.
I am not sure what all the heated debate is about, how it started or what we are getting at?
I am a very direct person and have trouble reading between the lines so I must say, I am a bit confused with some of the outcries here.
My understanding is that we are all upset about the blatant disenfranchisement of voters from the DNC, upset that the DNC decided who the nominee would be behind closed doors, upset that the DNC has publicly stated that there are certain demographics that they no longer need, upset that the media has given Junior a free ride, upset that the leadership of the DNC did not speak up for Hillary… have I missed anything?
As we all support free speech, we are all entitled to our own opinions and should be allowed to speak them as long as they are in sympathy with the mission of PUMA.
If you are an Obamabot, this is clearly not your forum. You don’t have to agree with everything here but there is a mission and a reason we are drawn together.
We need to remain united in our effort to take back our party. For those who are not nor ever were democrats, you are clearly welcome as you have support for Hillary and also believe that in a democracy the recent shenanigans of the primary season were unjust.
So please, let’s remain supportive of each other, tolerant of divergent opinions and above all, focused on the mission of PUMA.
(hope I have not overstepped here)
I Mentioned when i came in that a MOVIE is in the works for Mr. Obunbus lol
thankyou Shiela7 and FL-Debby
and for you go—-oh well
#51 middle aged female,
i agree completely. can you tell i’m in school right now to be a therapist? lol
Dear Friends,
On the subject of trolls, I was once called a troll at Hillary’s site, largely because people hadn’t yet come to know me. (It didn’t help that less than 2% of my attempted posts ever got through.)
And so, I offer three more thoughts …
One, it’s easy to misjudge someone based on a “snapshot” of their beliefs. Please don’t judge people too quickly. Instead, ask for clarification or more insight on their positions.
Two, sometimes people are in transition. At the point where I was called a troll, I was still of the mind that if Hillary asked us to vote for Obama, I would follow her lead. I have since changed my mind, but it took seeing more of Obama’s bad side and more of McCain’s good side before I got there.
Three, many of Obama’s supporters have only blindly followed this “American idol.” They don’t have good reasons for choosing him. Thus there’s still hope for making them see the light. But we must do it by rationally explaining the facts. Calling people trolls and turning them off to our movement is not the way. So if you suspect that some people are trolls, treat them with dignity, compassion, and respect, just as our dear Hillary would. Bring them into the light. Don’t push them back into the dark.
thank you Sandipuma
Obama, Clinton to hold joint fundraisers in NY
BUTTE, Mont. – Now that they’re allies, Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton will help each other raise money in a series of fundraisers in New York next week.
Obama campaign spokesman Jen Psaki said the Democratic nominee-in-waiting and Clinton will hold three fundraisers. Two events are scheduled for Wednesday night — one to raise money for his general election campaign and one to help pay off debts from her primary campaign. A third fundraiser, for Obama, is a breakfast Thursday morning with women donors that Clinton, a New York senator, will attend.
The fundraisers will be the first joint appearances by the former foes since their lovefest in Unity, N.H., on June 27.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080705/ap_on_el_pr/obama_clinton
#55 Gosue i have mentioned that several times as well. Als we have so many new ones coming in and we need to welcome them and make sure they feel welcome and to join in. So from now on when i am in here i will make sure everyone is welcomed. I to have been in here where i have asked questions and tried to say things and was ignored. I understand it wasn’t on purpose as everyone has so much to say and do such as letters and links and such
#33 -well said Firebell PUMA, let’s enjoy the dance
I just checked the motel6 site (only this site) and there are still rooms available in the denver area. I put in for 2 people. didn’t check the rate. hope this helps someone
So i will make nyself the welcome committee lol as mt 2 cents worth is not that much and i can work in if i have something important to say
#37 Sandipuma In the GE, anyone can vote whether they are Independent, Dem or Repub, or any other party. It’s just in the primaries in some states that you have to vote as you are registered. For instance, I’m registered Dem and can only vote Dem in the primaries. That is why I never changed to Independent as here in Florida I would not be able to vote.
#39 tree on 07.05.08 at 2:46 pm
Not taking the bait.
Can say whatever I want to, analize what I read, interpret as I may. Not giving you any more of my time.
#51 Middle age female
as above: Can say whatever I want to, analize what I read, interpret as I may.
Kind thoughts to all legitimate and energetic and beautiful Pumas.
also ladyhawkke edwards has not released his delegates and he too only suspended his campaign. some of his Iowa delegates switched to bb after he suspended but he still has 26 left.
wow i’m purpried there are still rooms.
just in case you were talking about me again, I’ve been a dem for over 30 years, I just switched to decline to state last month
46 ABinNY …Sorry…let me try that again:
Question: What did the Puma say to the DNC?
Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPxGmTGarM&feature=related
I thought they went to Obama.
ABinNy i will go check that youtube out bb
Have you all seen the new GeekLove08 video posted on Action Site…? GeekLove08 also asks us to give it great hits on YouTube, as does the Action Site. It isnot to be missed.
(((tree))) your great . Please don’t let anything bother you. I don’t lol.Now
I hope TREE isn’t leaving, she has been with us and posts a lot. Geez, can’t we get along. I remember when I was called a troll and Murphy stepped in because she knew I wasn’t. Let’s keep our eye on the prize, Hillary ‘08!
sandipuma
you will make a very nice welcomer and I too will try my best to welcome everyone, i try to do that now but can’t be here as much as I’d like.
Look if you’re feelings are distracting you from our work and our goals… take a day off, take two. Just announce that you need time off and will be back when you’re reenergized. Or, print out a thousand flyers and take a long walk distributing them. Or take a nap, go see a movie, or do anything else but continue the drama, and that includes the snarky inciteful remarks in response to the complaints.
I don’t care if I’m overstepping my bounds right now. I don’t want anything to degrade and diminish the accomplishments we’ve already achieved or those to which we aspire.
Let’s get back on track.
If we can fight together, we must strive together
If we can play together, we must pray together
If we can plan together, we must stand together
If we can cry together, we must try together
We must strive together, if we can fight together
We must pray together, if we can play together
We must stand together, if we can plan together
We must try together, if we can cry together
The future of man is built on a plan
Of working together whenever we can
So “if” must stand so tall
And “must” alone, cannot fall
For together, forever we bring
The best, the good of it al
James Weldon Lane
you Hillary head are not worth my time
So like I said at the beginning of all this, I’m not going to post for awhile, I’ll just read to see if anything has changed and perhaps maybe a post or two, we’ll see, right now I need a couple of tranqs.
lolololol, what a day so far huh?
tree did yousee one person say hi to me??? NO did you see one person answer me when i asked if anyone was watching Fox News ???? NO did you see anyone answer me when i said a Movie was in the making for Obumbus???? NO . So just let it roll off your back as i do now
#80 LOL TREE
you try to have a good day and for what it’s worth (probably not much) i don’t think you are a troll!
tree you and i can post to each other lol
#14 minivee iwas actively pushing the bo bc thing but am afraid the time has passed. as i stated several days ago my father’s bc was destroyed in a court house fire. therefore he had no original. he had to jump through several hoops (people who know him, affadavits of his birth, etc.) but was eventually able to get a bc stating where he was born. bb may have been born in england or anywhere else for all we know, but the bottom line is he says he was born in hawaii and he may have been able to jump the hoops and get a real certificate issued by now. (Incidentally my ex was born in the 40’s and his parents didn’t register his birth. He eventually had to get a registered certificate of birth in the 60’s to work…but he got it)
Thank- you all for your kind thoughts, it is very much appreciated, lolol, believe me you have no idea lolol
Why on earth would someone say that ??? I just don’t understand. Where is our respect for each other. I used to come in here and my brain was working and i could come up with good ideas. But i have gone brain dead.
#68 Taffy I didn’t know that. That must be why some people say Edwards could get the nomination if Obama imploded. But I don’t see how, he has no delegates but those 26 and the supers can’t put him in, so what are they talking about?
78 DancesWithPumas, I agree DWP…we all don’t need to be so sensitive…we are here for one purpose…its often difficult to hear nuance and sarcasm in these posts so there is always a chance things are taken wrong. Don’t stress it PUMAs…no one means to offend anyone, emotions are high…we just need to direct them to the right places. In short, PUMAs, lets not Daily Growl at each other.
But that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Good Lord people, get over yourselves. And yes that does sound rude but I for one am tired of the endless posts about hurt feelings, people leaving, people missing people, take it private or zip it.
And please do enjoy your weekend and stay safe
Just sing this song ” we are family” i have all my sisters/brothers with me.
#21 Daddysdarlin-
Email me at prplvette85@gmail.com
I would like to talk to you about Denver.
hi Trish hows your day going??/ I have not been here to long so really don’t know to much .Thanks for the link and got it to desk top
Tree and sandipuma……….I want to say hello and welcome. I probably have only posted 6 or 7 times in all,
but today has been an exception. I don’t have my grandbabies today…lol
Sometimes I don’t spell words right, sometimes I type too fast and I don’t don’t have word spell.
I love coming on here and reading the Puma post. Let’s all stick together and “get R done”
Love to all my Puma sisters and brothers.
Vonay in Indiana
does anyone know if there will be a bus from San Francisco to Denver?
I’m going to jump in here, even though I said I was done blogging. I don’t get angry easily or often, but I fear I have reached that point today.
It appears my post this morning is what has caused this ‘hissing’ contest. STOP.
I am getting TONS of emails from left-leaning centrist Republicans who would like to join, but instead are active behind the scenes on our behalf. We ARE NOT a Republican FRONT or any such creature. As far as I’m concerned, we’re P*D off VOTERS. I don’t give a d*mn whether your green or purple or have a third eye in the middle of your forehead! If you are NOOBAMA, then you’re ok in my book. The more the merrier. Some of you may not feel that way, and that’s fine. I, me, personally, choose not to exclude ANY voter who is upset at the way the Dem primary was run and the way Clinton was treated. Maybe they’re smart enough to think ahead and say, “Next time, it could be us.” and are motivated by that fact. I don’t ask any person emailing me whether they’re Republican or Democrat or Atlantean. I point them to the goals and stress NOBAMA. I was simply passing on some of the comments I am getting to give you all a feel for perception OUTSIDE the membership.
The hostility is driving people away. This troll thing HAS to stop. NOW. This is a public forum. We are read by people all over the world. We are read by opponents and by symapthizers, PUMAs and maybe-PUMAs and PUMAs. I can’t tell you how many cut and pastes I’ve seen from this blog in the blogosphere. The infighting is hurting members and this organization. How can we fight for respect and commonality when we can’t even do it amonst ourselves with dignity and understanding!
Maybe I need to find another home too.
I saw where BO is going to make a movie and i won’t be going to see it lol
As to the prior link to the complaint by the US against Rezco, I’m following up again with the US Atty’s office Monday and am going to ask them again when Obama is getting indicted. They won’t tell me but I’m asking anyway. Can we have a mass seance to have him indicted? May be the only way the DNC will get their heads out of their a**es!
#96 Sandipuma, I’m answering you. They had better wait so they can ad the chapter of him imploding!
Maryland Puma your posts are allways good. Don’t even say that. I love reading what you have to say. I love reading all posts in here. Everyone is so intelligent.
I need to go for a while but I want to leave everyone with nice thoughts and we are one family that needs to come together so let’s do it adn stay strong. We are making progress!
ladyhawk i’m hoping they show the bus too lol you know what i mean hehehehe
Hey good cartoon
we are family i have all my sisters/brothers with me . yea yea.
Has anyone been to the action committee today? What are we doing? We should be plotting our next move for Monday. Also, we need to act on PUMA’s CALL TO DNC DELEGATES and send that to all those e-mails we have for the media and officials, including Donna B. I’m surprised she hasn’t answered me as I did send her the Declaration of Objections. Spread Joy not hate!
i’m singing this out loud and i’m sure my nieghbours think i’m crazy
Repost
#333 Firebell – brilliant! You said it perfectly.
If I may…I’ve said this in the past, but I think its worth repeating.
This is a very exciting and chaotic process. The chaos is a necessary part of creating something new. There is also an urgency to what we are doing because the convention is only 5 weeks away.
It’s important not to take ANYTHING personally, but focus on the stated goals. The discussions spread information and help all of us refine our own positions.
We are making history here. We will make associations with each other that will last a lifetime. My child is in grade school, but you better believe she is watching. Someday I’ll have grandchildren, they will know the grandmother stood up for our democracy. That mean much more than any of us can measure.
The cause is greater than anyone of us. We are pebbles in water.
ok i’m game lets do letters. Hey i will make a letter to start sending to news papers. I did send a letter to some.
Do we know how we’re doing at eliminating Hillary’s debt?
Fred,
I like…
“Claws for a Cause”
Thumb our whiskers at the sexism and scare the unconscious Oedipal right out of them.
sandipuma…………ENOUGH…I have that song in my head now……ROFL
very true alohapuma.
FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS!!!
ATTENTION ALL NEW PUMA’S
Please go to the Action Page (click on from front page )
On left side scroll to Petitions, there are two petitions that should be signed by anyone who hasn’t signed them yet, I was just there and the last time someone signed , was June…so we need to follow up on things that need to be done.
Keep your eye on the prize! I’ll also post this wherever I can.
Let’s keep our eye on the Prize!!
LOL Vonay see it’s a good thing and a good song
Hi Pumas – Are there any other Minneapolis based PUMAS here – the reason I ask is:
‘On Saturday the 12th, please join the Minnesota DFL Party for a barbecue from 4 to 9 p.m. at DFL Headquarters. The cost is $25 per person, or $10 for children 10 and under. There is a rumor going around that the festivities will include a dunk tank.’
I am willing to go to this with my PUMA shirt, some flyers, etc but NOT alone – Obamabots scare the hell out of me but there is safety in numbers – right – so send me email: susiepuma@gmail.com
Maybe Amy will be there & I can ask her if she read my letter to her……………….
2 prizes actually . President Hillary Rodham Clinton and a New Democratic Party with no Howie and no nancy or reid or brazil
I agree the troll thing has to stop. When they make themselves known, Murphy will throw them to the curve. Let her do it (God bless her) and let’s focus on the one or two places each of us can be effective.
We can’t all be in everywhere at once and there are many places for talents.
It’s not fun being accused of being a troll ( I know) but if you aren’t, then take it with a grain of salf and move on.
I’m not sitting back and feeling bad any longer about my inept computer abilities…I for one am going to start posting the hell out of this joint…If I misspell to bad, if I don’t make sense ,tough..I love it here ,love the people here. Screw the spelling,punctuation and braind dead moments, we are all here for the same reason…So let’s start acting like it!
I’m doing letters and emails.
Did I ever tell you all I wrote to Polosi and Dean and told them to get their heads out of Bo’s butt?
….maybe I shouldn’t have done that??
But when I received the letter from Howard Dean asking for contributions, I couldn’t resist. Then I marked a big fat 0 on it and sent it back.
57 tree
Why don’t you get my email addy from maryland puma. I think you have misunderstood something.
Wow, Hi all fellow PUMA’S and to all of our new PUMA’S. #14 Mini Vee thanks for the post on #61 bc. I gladly signed it. TREE – Please don’t leave we all have our days. You are not a troll. I have been here since the beginning and seldom get any response to my comments. but that is ok because I just enjoy everyone’s posts and I know all are being read. I enjoy the daily growl and handing out the flyers, etc. Anything that will help. I am 61 yrs old I live in Missouri but, if you ever just want to talk MarylandPuma and Murphy have my e-mail and I give them permission to give it out. Relax and have a wonderful weekend.
Hi Susie welcome happy holiday weekend
A agree that, after visiting several grassroots sites, there is duplication of efforts which is a dreadful waste of time. But, as someone new to this site, if you’re going to try to draw more people here (which makes sense since there are so many resources already in place here and at Just Say No Deal) it would be helpful if newcomers to the site could readily see what PUMA’s about at the top of the home page. It’s not clear and not welcoming. Feels a bit like a group in progress that’s hard to jump into because it’s not competely apparent what the mission is.
oh there you are GO, I went back downstairs to say I’m very sorry
PS…
The otheside would like nothing more than to see hissy fits escalate into self-destruction. Would that be fodder for sexism.
I think people need to quit insinuating that others are trolls. I you really think someone is a troll….report it to Murphy instead of this sniff, sniff business. That to me is really rude and will discourage other PUMAS!! JMO
Yes this troll thing must stop. Just remember trolls are a sign that someone is worried. I’m not worried but we know who is.
Anyway a troll can’t move a PUMA any way.
PUMAs, go get your attitude here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPxGmTGarM&feature=related
True and look at all we have done in such a short time. We are a very very strong shall i say thousands and into millions. We are growing everyday and that is because of you. Because of us. There is nothing we can’t do.
sandipuma..yes a good song!
michelle47…I’m a terrible typer and not so good at spelling.
Also my space bars sticks and i get tired of hitting the backspace to fix it.
I try to do better on here.but man you shhould see my emails!
only my close frineds can read the,,,,,,rofl
I am PUMA hear me roar.
ABinNY
LOLLOLLOL!!!!
127 ABinNY
That must have brazilla in the background! No doubt!
Too funny!
Thanks
LOL Vonay i know the feeling i hit the wrong keys so often then go GRRRRR when it’s to late
I do apologize to all, yeah I guess even Hillhead
131 alohapuma…There’s our mascot, right there…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPxGmTGarM&feature=related
Does anyone know *where* in NY these Unity events are taking place?
I recieved my new voters id card today as an independent,it also said we have a new voteing system and have touse a paper ballot and fill in the oval completely next to our choice, it also said we could mail in ballots or drop them off in desegnated boxes,dosn’t sound good to me.
Please ad me to your list of people offering help:
Peg – writing, editing, graphic design
Marylandpuma,
You have been such a driving force here and I agree with you. If we are united in our cause party is irrelevant. We need the numbers and the support! But we will implode if people keep attacking each other. We have a great cause here, wonderful people, and incredible momentum. I come here to read and become informed. I very rarely amongst the most active in this group because my time is very limited, but I do what I can. Everyone participates to the best of their ability and resources. Every single person in the PAC is valuable in their own way. I sincerely hope we can keep focused! This is a great movement, thanks to people like Murphy, Marylandpuma and many others. Keep the faith–nothing worthwhile is ever without challenges. By the way #33 Firebelle–I agree!
Let’s be thankful we are here united for a wonderful cause!
Let’s get those letters and emails out.
PumaResponders item: (to join list, email 1950democrat/at/gmail/com)
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“Obama: Sounding Like Thomas and Scalia?”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-sounding.html
A good, well-informed analysis of some SC issues and Obama going rightwing.
Comments and comment form are at the bottom of the article.
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Also in the general election you can vote for whomever you choose,just the primary you can only vote your party
I too would like to hear of events in NY. Also has anything been done as far as letting us know what other PUMAs are in our area? Is that list going to be published or emailed? I feel isolated out here on Long Island.
New Orleans PUMA: On the “yeller” dog Democrat stuff, I read you loud and clear and like you, I too have some family background in organized labor. But it has been my experience that many of the old yeller dogs (the kind that believed in the WHOLE saying) eventually became Republicans and I just will not associate myself with that ilk. This is a very tough call for me. Alabama allows write-ins, so I may follow that course of action. One of the things that first brought me to PUMA was its big umbrella: PUMA accepts several paths to protesting the DNC and the party’s presumed nominee and this appeals to me tremendously. I believe that united we will all have a much louder roar!!
Gotta go for awhile…………..
KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE Pumas.
Bye to all.
Tree, you hang in there we NEED you!!
Vonay
PS While we try to build our numbers and minimize duplication of efforts wouldn’t it be great to have an “Action” heading along the top of the page. As a newbie to this group, it seems like I had to scroll down and read some gray fine print to figure out where I might finally be able to get some action ideas. Isn’t action what we want to be doing?!* If so, it should be a prominently feature item on the home page.
Oh, meant to say: Fred, your poster is WONDERFUL!
#87 ladyhawkke….if it becomes a brokered convention, meaning nobody can get the cleaar majority to their side, the Dems can put up ANYBODY as their candidate, even if they weren’t in the primaries. There was a big article in the Denver papers after super tuesday about this. that was the purpose of the sds. but it makes sense to put up edwards if bb falls since he ran, has delegates, and is not a part of either faction. he backed bb which is one strike but has stayed out of the spotlight since As for delegates all or most all could agree to backing him and he becomes the nominee. i didn’t pay a ton of attention to the article at the time because I was sure Hillary would win nomination and so were the media, saying it was an unlilely scenario. But it would get DNC off hook if bb implodes. maybe hillary knows this is in works. who knows what is going on anymore!!!!!!!!
AbinNY i think that cat was a puma
Hey, did anyone see today’s headlines about the Dems struggling wtih convention plans? Disorganized. Arrogant. Underfunded. I hope they remain mired in chaos up until the very last minute!
OMG that is one angry PUMA on You tube! We need to send that to Dean and all his cohorts
#148 andersen they will be calling us racist’s because of the ‘white’ angry cat LOL
89 TrishfromCanada
Right On!
From an article in today’s NYT:
“With Democrats seeking to use the convention to move past the bitterness of their bruising primary fight, the gathering in Denver Aug. 25-28 is likely to draw intense interest as the Obama forces try to show a once-divided party rallying around the nominee. And their convention comes a week before the Minneapolis gathering of the Republicans, whose convention efforts have been much smoother.”
The DCCC passed up cheap offices and went the high rise route instead and are paying $100,000 per month rent, along with $50,000 in rental furniture. They’re $11+ million short on the costs of the convention.
It also seems that “demonstrators and food” are “the donkey in the room”.
No wonder we’ve been receiving an onslaught of solicitations for contributions to yet another DP fiasco.
“I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.” Mark Twain
153 Pookie
Funny. That never occurred to me.
Let them spin in the wind.
I received a snail mail from dean and dnc for support for obama and a survey. So I filled it out right away and sent it back .On the box to check to contribute I put NO and then a comment: I will not contribute until we get Dean, Polosi (sp) and their cohorts out of office.
The Womens Leadership Forum is co-hosting one of the fundraisers in New York.
I have been very active in the WLF in the past, but saw the organization go dorment during the Bush years. This was an organization that Tipper Gore chaired at one time and was a “grassroots” effort to bring women into the DNC.
Now when I look for current information on the WLF there appears to be nothing! When you sign up for the newsletter, the Thank You Page says the next newsletter will be April 2007.
What’s going on? Does anyone have information about the officers of this organization??
Wondering if they are resurrecting it as a vehicle to get women to support Obama.
#146 Anna7000
Great idea!
At this point, I wouldn’t even mind if we used teh Action Site as our main, and had a link to this blog.
It’s often embarrassing to send people here because you can never count on the tone and tenor of the comments being a good representation of PUMA.
I don’t know, maybe we could limit the cat (and I mean that in the worse possible sense) fights to the overnight blogs, and dedicate the day blog to things that are specifically related to our mission.
PS I’m as guilty as anyone.
Convention chaos (HA-HA)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/us/politics/06convention.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iv65dWFozYKp8tdz6Gpjoz3fZZXQD91BFKTO2
Murphy, Maryland,
I think we should get the names and address of the officers of the Women’s Leadership Forum and “do our thing”. Plaster them with communications regarding our concerns.
If its the same crowd at the late 90’s they aren’t going to do much for Obama other than going through the motions. If its a whole new crowd, then they have probably resurrected this organization and will tout its history to get the women’s vote.
We should really call them on it after the rank sexism of this campaign.
As always…I’ll voluteer to spearhead this and compose a letter for a growl.
Yes, Taffy. My husband and I often wondered if the reason Edwards hung back so long before endorsing anyone was because he knew that depending on how things unfolded at the convention, he might actually wind up being the one. Should be very interesting to see how things unfold next month.
tree, I haven’t seen you before, welcome. I have suffered anxiety and panic disorder since I was a child, didn’t have a name for what was happening to me until I was an adult though.
I know how hard it is to overcome when you are in the midst of an attack and I have tried many things, counting, bouncing a ball etc.
I am sorry you suffer so, and I feel for you.
Now a question, I am planning on being in a tent camping in Denver, I read that someone suggested we travel in pairs for safety, I agree. Is there some way we can do that? And, is there anyway we can as a group, make reservations at the campsites closest to the convention site? The Cherry Hills one looks really nice and they have over a hundred sites, I think that is what its called Cherry something.
Anyway, I don’t have a credit card or anything like that and my budget, well I don’t have one. Is it possible to sleep on the bus if we cant get a campsite? I could put a tent up anywhere, but I want to be safe.
I checked CraigsList a few days ago and the prices are way out of my league. I might be able to handle the eight dollars a night to camp, but a motel or apt. or house is not in my budget.
Anyone else who will be camping, lets do the buddy system, and also I think it would be nice to get those name tags and put our blog names on them, to get to know each other.
My 2 cents
One Love
163 DaddysDarlin
I would camp or sleep on the bus.
163 DaddysDarlin…i will also be camping and agree we need to stay together
Go
I tried to watch the hissing cats video but my cat was going nuts looking for it lolol
TREEPUMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgsZOxOwlo&feature=related
Lyndon LaRouche on the DNC. I think everyone has seen this before but it is right on target.
ABinNY: I’ve been asking the same thing about the state/region organization. I’ve never been a patient person.
I’ve been looking all over the regular media sites and can’t find where in NY these events are. Some areas of NY are a day trip for me, and some aren’t.
159 Dances with Pumas – Thanks for getting my point. I really think that a blog shouldn’t be the feature of the home page for any organization. I am as passionate as the next person about fighting for Hillary. But I get very frustrated when I got to web sites and see that the mission is not clearly articulated (if at all) and the home page isn’t user friendly nor are the priorities front and center. These are precious days we have to build our movement, but if we want to maximize getting others to join, we need to think in a professional way. It’s not Day 1 anymore, we’re getting media attention and we need to seize these opportunities to draw people in and not alienate anyone because we didn’t think about how the web site appears to someone new. In speaking for myself, it took some effort to get hooked in and I know there are many who just wouldn’t bother.
166 tree
I bet he/she was! lol!
PUMAs
Lets get realistic here, this blog has a Purpose and a mission. The distractions are counterproductive to our goal here. Lets understand that tensions are high, yet let us not forget we can carry ourselves as mature adults. The bickering and finger pointing is immature behavior that should STOP. Let us be rational here, If you have a complaint about a “troll” in your perception please forward the complaint to Murphy; she is the moderator and she will deal with it as necessary; if you continue to fuel the disruptive conversation by engaging on personal attacks you are doing a disservice to the PUMA cause. Let us treat each other with RESPECT–Let us not fall victims and let us not victimized others. We may not agreed with each other’s perspectives, ideas, or we may not be notice but remember that YOU, only YOU know yourself so don’t take it personal, if you feel offended please forward your complaint to Murphy, she will handle it. This is an ACTION BLOG. Can we make this a pledge? I am, because the ultimate goal is too important to jeopardized.
163 Daddy’s Darlin
I thank you for your compassion, but unfortunately I am house bound, agoraphobic, but I wish you and all the rest a safe and fruitful time. You will all be great in Denver
Well-said LatinPuma
166 tree
Are we good now?
Super!
My screen name on other blogs has been “campingoutindenver” so I have always planned to camp. I was hoping that we can sleep on the buses as well, if the camp sites are full or too far away. Though their is city buses that run from Denver to boulder, and there are campsites along the way. (Used to be anyway, unless it is all burbs now.) I figure if we are all stinky that might keep the BO’s away (Intended pun.)
OK…here are the details regarding the Women’s Leadership Forum breakfast on July 10th
NY Hilton and Towers
With Women for Obama & the DNC’s Women’s Leadership Forum
7:00 – 9:30AM
Attend: min. $250 per person
RSVP by July 7th at the latest (or until sold out): jeffkurzon@gmail.com
Please also contact me if you are interested in fundraising for this event.
If our East Coast PUMAS can be present it needs to be planned offline.
Hello everyone,
First of all: Welcome Gay Gal! It’s so nice to see people who have come here from the http://www.hillaryclinton.com site that I feel as if I’m greeting old friends, even though I’m only a part-timer on the blogs.
I’ve been gone for a couple of days and was sorry to see some of the ambiguous negativity going back and forth. This is just a plea to focus on the positive. I cannot tell you how much sustenance all of you have given me when I felt helpless and alone during the last couple of months of the primaries. To know that there are like-minded people out there taking action to fight the injustices, and to see that we are actually making ourselves heard, is a source of strength that I want to be a part of and continue.
I come on here to learn and to share my opinions when I think they make any sense. When you post articles, I send them on to people who haven’t yet made up their minds how to vote in November. One of you posed an article about Obama’s public housing policy (that turned out to be only a convenience for him) that I sent to my niece who works in the public housing field in NYC (she was appalled) and to my “undecided” brother — both of whom passed the article to dozens of their colleagues and friends. Who knows how many people we are affecting “beyond our borders”? I don’t always thank whoever posted the articles I pass on and most of the time my posts don’t get acknowledged either. But that’s fine — all I want to do is spread the truth and I can’t tell you how I grateful I am to all of you for helping to do that.
Please keep the energy positive — it makes a difference!
Who is Jeff Kurzon??
Does anyone know?
I’m sorry, yes we are GO, I sent two apologies to you, one dwonstairs and one here, but to make sure yu get it I’M SORRY lol, and yes she–sasha, she went nuts, I know it may sound bad but it was funny, her trying to find that cat, poor thing I didnt dare play the second one, I did check it but when I saw that cat again I came back here
googled jeff….he part of bb’s staff
I have been navigating the internet today and working at the same time. Don’t ask me how. The sites against Nobama are popping up everywhere. It seems that people are waking up to the fact that the man is dangerous and crazy.
Nothing good can come out of this. Many feel that something wicked this way comes! How do we get out of the mess created by the DNC?
Well PUMAS let’s reach out to the 18 million that voted for Hillary, give the good fight and set things straight before it is too late.
178 alohapuma on 07.05.08 at 4:14 pm Who is Jeff Kurzon??
Does anyone know?
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Several weeks ago, Jeff attended the NYC Camp Obama, where he learned about community organizing skills and how he could step up his involvement in the campaign. All week, he’s been helping distribute tickets and coordinate volunteers out of his apartment. He works as a lawyer at the SAME LAW FIRM that Barack Obama worked for when he met Michelle, but he’s taken an unpaid leave of absence since the beginning of the month, and he says he won’t return to work until Barack wins the primary.
Volunteers are floating in and out of Jeff’s place all day to pick up flyers, stickers, and voter registration forms. They’re getting the word out all over the city. We’re headed out soon to meet up with some of these folks, many of whom have taken a day off from work to be a part of the effort.
#84 Taffy
I suppose you’re right, but I’m just so frustrated because it’s obvious that the bc thing is a fraud on both sites. Isn’t that like crime in itself, trying to pass something that isn’t real to deceive readers/voters? I have hope that someone will get to the bottom of it. I have no doubt that he has a real bc, but for sure, it ain’t the one that is being presented.
Ooops , on my post 182 I forgot to include the link.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/Chlg
Wednesday’s event is at the Grand Hyatt. Details
Wednesday, July 9, 2008
6:00 – 8:00PM
VIP Seat: $4,600 per person
Premiere Seat: $2,300 per person
Attend: $1,000 per person
RSVP by July 7th at the latest (or until sold out): jeffkurzon@gmail.com
Please also contact me if you are interested in fundraising for this event.
Here is one link. he’s a lawyer and president of new york for bb chapter
http://democracyforum.blogspot.com/2007/07/jeff-kurzons-living-room-union-sqaure.html
I’m out of here for a while today.
See all of you later.
minivee he stated in book dreams he started his quest because he found his bc. wonder what it looked like? why did he need to order a new one (date shows through on back of one submitted by his campaign) if he has his original?
#182 Middle Aged Female…
Interesting.
It looks like they are using the shell of the Women’s Leadership Forum to give the impression of unity…or something.
Curious this event is a joint effort with Women’s Leadership Forum and Women For Obama. It doesn’t look like there was much left of the WLF.
More proof that Obama is in way over his head. He’s not even the president and he’s aging at warp speed!
Campaign trail a gray area for Obama
By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 7/3/08 6:17 PM EST
The realization almost always prompts a double take, a moment of inspection, maybe even a debate: Is baby-faced Barack Obama, the symbol of a younger political generation, actually aging in front of us?
By his own admission this week, “the gray is coming quick,” so that it now dusts his head like snowflakes. The laugh lines cut a little deeper, and the crow’s-feet around his eyes appear slightly more pronounced.
The presidency ages presidents, but so, it seems, has the longest campaign in modern history aged a candidate.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11520.html
If anyone wants to read a plethora of anti-Obama articles and blogs, check out the online publication American Thinker. But, let me forewarn you that it’s a very conservative (which I’m not) publication. But, they can’t stand Obama and have been running pieces about/against him on a daily basis (usually more than one each day) for months now. If you click on “Archives” on their web site you can read “Articles” and/or “Blogs” from prior months. They can’t stand him and they have really vetted him. Were doing so when the mainstream media wasn’t. It was one site that saved my sanity during the primaries, other than Hillary’s blog. But, as I said, if you go to this publication, be prepared for very conservative headlines (I just ignored them and went for the Obama stuff).
oops, I posted this downstairs, so this is a repost. (menopausal moment)!
Hi all, my daughter just called me and they are having the women’s olympic volleyball playoffs tomorrow in Boulder, Colorado, at the CU football stadium. It is being televised on abc national tv. Her and my grand daughter are going to make a big PUMA poster with a panther on it and follow the cameras around and put it on TV! They are also printing out our flyers to pass out. The game is on tomorrow morning so I will be watching.
check this out and pay attention to 3rd paragraph!!!! Does this sound familiar to some of us????? We definitely have lurkers 24 hrs a day!
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/ET_Cetera/No_money_till_you_keep_your_word_fans_tell_Obama/articleshow/3200654.cms
#169 Anna7000
Well stated. I am often concerned about interested newcomers and how they perceive our site.
On the other hand,
No one can fault this site for lack of dedication nor inactivity.
This site was created, from scratch, only one month ago, on Jun 3, and its founder, unpaid staff, and members have brainstormed, designed, composed, and produced everything that is available at the Action Center. They’ve researched all the political and media contacts, distributed, emailed and snail mailed, literally thousands of letters, flyers, business card, posters, faux currency.
The creation of this site, the many hours of research and action, interviews, travel, getting adjusted to each other’s personalities, styles of communicating, and action related paces; while keeping up with ever changing political scenarios and strategies; … all this squeezed in to existing busy lifestyles that also require maintenance.
Astounding and outstanding when you consider that we moved in only a month ago.
# 91 prplvette85, sent you an email, I hope everything is going well for you and yours!
I love my Puma family and I want each and every one of you to know that I don’t give a damn if your rich or poor, black, white, hispanic, asian, whatever, I love my Puma family.
Democrat, Republican, Independent, Unaffiliated, we are all here for the same reason, to ensure that Hillary gets a vote during the nomination process and that she becomes our nominee. We also want huge changes in the DNC leadership, if you can call it that. The DNC has no right to change the rules as it sees fit, to benefit their messiah of choice. Rules are put in place for a reason. This corruption in the congress and senate must stop, the American people deserve better, those people are put into office to serve us, not the other way around. We will have our votes counted and our voices heard!
Welcome new Pumas, there are so many new names that I cant welcome you all individually, but know that we feel very fortunate to have you in our Puma family. Each person has something to offer and I look forward to reading your comments, or if you are like me and don’t post all the time, enjoy just sitting for awhile reading.
Murphy aren’t you amazed by what you have accomplished in one short month? I sure am!!! Congratulations!
One Love
prplvette85 , love the grassroots dedication. Thank your family for me………….
#148 Poor kitty, I have 5 cats and I wonder what it’s owner did to that poor cat to make it growl like that.
#188 Taffy
The partial stamp of some sort was actually the one on Kos and not the one posted on BO’s site (according to the analysis done by tech experts on Texas D). As far as I’m concerned, the whole thing stinks, even if it is some elaborate scheme to send people on a wild goose chase. I’m semi technical when it comes to Photoshop and I totally agree with the analysis that has been done. BCgate is what they should be calling this thing now.
Taffy, I know I asked you this before, but I’m holding a meeting at my house this upcoming Saturday for the planning of the Denver March (CO group) …if you can come and lend us some of your energy, that would be great! Let me know and we can connect offline…you know, in case of lurkers.
#149 I don’t like Edwards anymore, he behaved very rudely towards Hillary. I lost all respect for him. I would really be ticked off if he were put on the ticket and then I would just vote for Nader.
mini are you talking today 5th or next sat?
#151 I did see that. Maybe that’s why Obambi wants to go to Chicago, less money, plus then all the thugs will be there.
Hey PUMAs! Sorry I don’t have more time to visit and post here. But you are in my thoughts always. As proof, ha ha, as I was listening to one of my favorite groups, Jefferson Airplane, I thought “wow, a great theme song for the PUMAS” (maybe). Anyway, the song is “Volunteers” (You may know better the refrain “Volunteers of America”) — anyway it’s a song that really stirs the blood up. Here are some of the lyrics:
Look what’s happening out in the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Hey I’m dancing down the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Ain’t it amazing all the people I meet
Got a revolution Got to revolution
One generation got old
One generation got soul
This generation got no destination to hold
Pick up the cry
Hey now it’s time for you and me
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Come on now we’re marching to the sea
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Who will take it from you
We will and who are we
We are volunteers of America,
Volunteers of America…
But you’ve got to hear it to appreciate it, so here’s a link to a youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SboRijhWFDU&feature=related
Lots of old 60’s counter-culture imagery in this clip, but don’t let that deter you from listening…and/or enjoy the flashback!
#144TSTRAINOR: Re yeller dog crew and the move to Republicans, the same applies here. I understand. In Louisiana, however, a write-in is just as good as not going to vote. I do have a fallback position. If it appears that McCain will win this state by a large margin, as he probably will, I will vote Nader if he gets on the ballot here. Does the Alabama rule require the write in candidate to submit a prior affidavit of approval for being a write-in? Hillary won’t do that anywhere.
In any case, I concur with the logic and conclusions you state. By whatever legal ways and methods we can imagine, this hologram train must be stopped. And it will be, if we continue to pay close attention and to act when appropriate.
#6 MICHELLE 47, #9 TRISHFROMCANADA and 10HILLARYISTHEONE—That cracks me and sure would get attention. Yes, Trish from Canada, it is gross but in the right environment would be great — like on some school campuses. I cracked up!
MARYBETH613 Or just getting ready to watch NASCAR race. My husband was in a fantasy league of about 8 fan, all friends, so last year I joined. Last year I came in last and this year I have been first almost all season!! It is so funny and they don’t know what to say or how to deal with it because this is a first for them. Heeheehee
I am getting TONS of emails from left-leaning centrist Republicans who would like to join, but instead are active behind the scenes on our behalf.
I agree with you about chilling on the troll charges.
But wouldn’t it be less confusing and better all around for these centrist Republicans to start a site of their own? They could still link to us and donate to us.
But really, when people are coming from such different directions, isn’t it clearer and more efficient to blog with others coming from the same direction? We could always have some of our people there as outreach.
If you hear of such a ex-GOP site, would you pls email me so I can add it to my list of recommended sites that I post at turndownobama.com. Email 1950democrat/at/gmail/com
#160 tstrainor
Wow these articles are great! they mention “thousands of demonstrators” a lot in the article! they are really frightened by PUMAs and their impact! it really is CHAOS!
thanks for the link, tstrainor!
Re: NEA: Obama Advocates Merit Pay Plan to Teachers, Gets Booed
http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/05/obama-to-address-nea-saturday/
PA4Hill08
I sent you a picture of the mural to your email account.
Enjoy
#200 Taffy
Sorry, I meant next Saturday, the 12th. We have the State organizer attending and she’s going to give a brief on the efforts of the NY HQ and the logistics of the event.
I’m in Denver, near observatory park, not sure where you are in Denver.
# 172 tree, I wish we could travel together to Denver, I will carry your sweet spirit with me! God Bless You.
I was in downtown Chicago for the 4th and wearing a Puma shirt and got a lot of compliments! The word is definitely out there!
http://www.hellnobama.com
“I am getting TONS of emails from left-leaning centrist Republicans who would like to join, but instead are active behind the scenes on our behalf.”
Good! And Thank you, to all left-leaning (someone pull the rug out so they come left all the way) Republicans, We can use all the energy and assistance we can get, as long as we share mutual goals.
Not so good news for BO.
Obama’s Odds
Despite poll data that seem to forecast a big Democratic win, most analysts privately expect another close race.
by Charlie Cook
Sat. Jul 5, 2008
If you believe the Intrade betting odds, Barack Obama has a 65 percent chance of beating John McCain in November. Similarly, in the Iowa Electronic Markets, Obama has a 64 per-cent chance of winning. Indeed, a look at much of the polling data might lead one to conclude that Obama does in fact have a 2-1 chance of becoming the next president. And yet most trial heats show the presumptive Democratic nominee with an advantage of just 4 to 6 percentage points–a fairly insignificant edge and certainly not one to warrant such favorable odds.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/cr_20080705_5728.php
DNC Planning to cut the Convention short a day early…
The DNC is toying with the idea of having the nomination over and done by Wednesday night…instead of Thursday.
READ here:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailconfab3-2008jul03,0,6789486.story
# 164 goandersen, Super, you are going to Denver!!!
I certainly will sleep on the bus if we can, that would save me some money, and believe me I wont be packing much of that!
One Love
PUMA Talent Growls as of July 5, 2008
3:50pm CST
thatswhattimeitis: CPA (Certified Public Accountant),financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa: fluent in Spanish, photoshop CS3, PC video editing
(see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Misogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas: graphics,website design, photoshop, flash
Webfoot: Legal Research
Ginanswo: calls, faxing, copying, mailing
Michelle 47: has meeting space available(OH area) for organizational purposes
ABinNY: photographer, skills in photoshop CS2
bythelake: regular mail, email, faxes, donations
ontherocks: calls, emails, mailing SD and media
sycoram_in_MO: mails. emails, sending out flyers, calls
1of18MilforHILL08: keep addresses, emails, fax # current if changed (those of individuals or groups that others would like to contact)
MJE4HRC: writer(composing/editing letters)
Sheila7: emails(taking ideas, making a plan, and do the job)
Hill2TheHill: actress, singer, dancer (not famous) http://218467.spreadshirt.com/us/US/SHOP/
custom T-Shirts(all proceeds pledged go to Murphy@pumapac)
Peg: writing, editing, graphic design
Jeremy: amatuer investigator (willing to check out and report on local events that PUMAS need to be aware of)
If I left any off, please put my name on the first line of post, the add your skill. It is easier to email me. It has been posted. Thanks. BTW, I have an update regarding the mural in Houston and will post on it soon.
Hey Muchado~you saw it! Great! I got a pic too. When were you there?
mini…get my email addie from maryland…i have obligations in later afternoon but would lke to keep up.. i’m west of you in burbs. after finding that quote above (#193) which we had in a late night discussion i’m leery of saying more
#216 Jeremy
Say the mural today and got a picture of it ;-(
#217
Probably around noon?
#216 Jeremy
I do not know if you have my email and I do not have yours either. but you can write me at womenstate@gmail.com
My favorite summer shoes
, flip-flops. For this year at least!
Obama gives GOP flip-flop ammo
ANALYSIS | Iraq, gun, financing positions revive attacks that helped defeat Kerry
July 5, 2008
BY JENNIFER LOVEN
BUTTE, Mont. — Is Barack Obama close to being shadowed by giant flip-flops and, worse, having the image stick with people all the way to the voting booth?
Four years ago, Republicans branded as a ”flip-flop” even the slightest rhetorical or policy change by John Kerry and sent huge replicas of the casual sandals to bob around the Massachusetts Democrat’s events, feeding an image of him as a wishy-washy panderer.
Fair or not, Kerry never recovered and lost to President Bush.
It’s now the Republican weapon of choice against Obama.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1041130,CST-NWS-obama05.article
murphy…i miss our PUMA growl on the action page. I used to play it when I was down.
can he come back ?
What time were you there? Did you go in? When I went by, (the first time) a line of people were trying to get inside the other building across the street. I circled the buildings and got physical addresses. Verifying email to the “business” now. All that is on front of one of the buildings is “The Breakfast Klub.”
#218 Taffy
Will do. I can’t believe we all have to do this…I thought we were in the land of free speech and freedom to choose without fear of retaliation. SAD, really sad.
Anyhoo, will write you offline about it.
Thanks #221 Amarissa. May I add that to the list so others may contact you regarding your skills? If not, I will keep it separate.
#224 Jeremy
I was there probably around noonish. I also saw the line of people at “The Breakfast Klub”. I didn’t go inside. It looked like the building was a clothing store or 2nd hand shop. Something like that.
additional regarding #266 to Amarissa. I will send you a mail. Thanks
Can anyone direct me to the post AND I HAVE SPENT HOURS TRYING TO FIND IT ON HERE – went into the search portion as well – the letter that Hillary Clinton had sent to the superdelegates giving them the reason she should be the nominee – it was very long – and I thought that I had marked it to come back and read again – but oh no – can no longer find that either –
Think it was yesterday – but not for sure – as I said went through over 1000 posts and no luck.
Thanks
#160 I love it. Hope they never come up with the money. Or the very least, Obambi will have to go into his own kitty. GROWL!
GOSUEF4HIL
I figure the only way we can keep BO from winning is to vote for McCain.
If we stay home or do a write in then Bo can still win, and then he’s in probably for 8 years. eeeeeek!!
Pumas ACTION ALERT!
I’ve just uploaded a new Pumas Civil (peaceful) Protest Guidelines to the PP Action Center.
All Pumas heading to Denver in August should review this document and address any concerns, or ask any questions of Murphy and other Denver action organizers BEFORE you sign up to go to the action.
Check out the guide at:
http://pumapacusa.org/resources/peaceful-protest-guide.html
If you’d like to see anything added to this guide, please email me at: PA4HILL08.PUMA AT gmail dot com.
Thanks!
It’s no wonder he won’t pay down Hillary’s debt, he’s broke, now he’s going to find out how Hillary felt when she lent herself her money
#190 ANTIFISH He’s not aging, he just quit dying his hair! One of my black tennis partners dyed his hair and then one day he came in and took his hat off and it was totally white! I said what happened and he said he quit dying it. There is no way that a 47 year old man like Obama had all black hair, he had to have some gray and now that he’s campaigning, he has not time to dye it.
Well, I sent an email to my “region” so we’ll see if it works, because ideally, all planning should not be on this blog.
MuchaAdo,
There are two buildings. Yes, one is a “novelity” store. That is the builing that has the mural on it. The building across the street -”The Breakfast Klub” was NOBama’s Houston Headquarters during the primary. I parked next door at Flavia’s (sp) and watched watched for awhile. This was about 1:30 or so. They were expecting a bigger event than what was going on. The first time I went by they had a moonwalk going up and a couple of marquis in the parking lot. The people in line had forms that were being filled out before they went in. I had to leave at that time when some dude at Flavias told me that his parking lot was for customers only and that I was in the valet section and to move. I did.
Hill2TheHill:
Re: Unique T-Shirt design…
1) Do we have to use your t-shirt design program or can we email our own design to you?
2)Do you carry men’s style t-shirts?
3) What’s the timeframe for printing and delivery?
229 Drac
I just mailed it to you.
#233 Tree Hope he feels the stress that Hillary felt. And I love the fact that Hillary’s donors are holding back. I’m waiting for the Rezco indictment or, that the BC is a fake.
#21 DADDYSDARLIN I think it is great that you are going! I am very proud of you taking that step. Thank you for representing us. Just a thought–if you know other Clinton supporters you might ask for their help with paying for the trip so you can also buy water (just teasing) but if they believe in you and what you are fighting for, they would love to help, I am sure.
ASK FAMILY and FRIENDS to help pay for your DENVER trip. Have a mini-fundraiser…
Actually, this might be an idea for everyone, to ask for help from family and friends to support your trip,even if it is $5 from each of them (Let them know it is non-taxable).It will give you extra spending money and bucks to pay for rally materials.
Just a thought. Go Clinton for President and Denver!!
To #194 Dances with Pumas – Yes, I do very very much understand and appreciate the amazing (volunteer, no less) effort that it took to get this site up and running with the enormous amout of resources it offers. It’s truly a remarkable achievement.
My perspective is based on two things: 1) My own first impressions as a newcomer, and 2) My experience throughout my life as a political activist. As to the first, I addressed that. Regarding the second, I’ve witnessed (and been a part of) on more than one ocassion grassroots organizations emerging but not continuing to grow and mature, only to eventually implode or minimize what they could or did achieve because they became self-congratulatory and tunnel-visioned. I’m just desperate like everyone else for our movement to grow. And, as the media pays more attention to us and as we work to get others to join, there will be crossroads where it’s critical to reassess how you do what you do. That’s all.
Yes, what Murphy has created is amazing and I thank her and everyone who contributed to the effort a thousand times over. I would just hate to see it become a clique comprised of a core group that fails to see the forest for the trees.
I’m off for awhile. Weeding the garden.
If anyone has information on the current Women’s Leadership Forum of the DNC, I would appreciate you dropping me a line.
alohapuma@gmail.com
GO PUMAS
Dear Pumas,
I just sent the following email to Howard Dean (with copies to Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and John McCain).
Fair warning … I was schmoozing. Grab your barf bags if you need them.
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Dear Chairman Dean,
I’m surprised to see that Senator Obama is drawing increasingly smaller crowds for his public appearances.
I’ve written to you many times before requesting that you do whatever you can to encourage Senator Obama to accept John McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings. With the falling crowds at public events, I think this becomes even more important. Televised debates draw much bigger crowds.
Right now, I’m leaning toward voting for Senator McCain. I think he’s more experienced and has better judgement, even if I don’t agree with all of his positions. But I’m still open to hearing what Senator Obama has to say. However, I want it on my terms. I want to hear both candidates discuss the issues … together … on the same stage. It’s the only way I can fairly compare the two candidates.
Plus, as a self-employed person, I can’t take several hours out of my day to stand in line and navigate large crowds, only to end up in the back of the room where I can’t even see the candidates. It’s much easier for me to watch televised debates. So that’s another reason I favor debates over rallies. You’ll never get me to an Obama rally, but you will get me to watch televised debates.
I’ve made the following points several times before, but they bear repeating. I think that Barack Obama is afraid to debate John McCain. I think he’s afraid that John McCain will expose his lack of substance behind the rhetoric. And I think he’s even more afraid that if superdelegates see this weakness before the convention in December, superdelegates will change their minds and vote for Hillary, giving her the nomination. Barack Obama’s apparent fear makes me very uncomfortable with the idea of voting for him. He’s not acting like Commander-in-Chief material.
Additionally, because he repeatedly said, “I welcome that debate with John McCain” during the primaries, but now refuses to debate John McCain, I believe that Senator Obama is not a man of his word. I don’t have to look at his voting record. I don’t have to read the policies posted on his web site. All I need to do is compare his recent words with his current actions.
Beyond that, Barack Obama kept telling the public that we can count on him to be good about reaching across the aisle. And he kept promising transparency in government. Why then can’t he reach across his campaign platform to hold public discussions with John McCain? Again, I’m listening to his words and looking at his actions and seeing a complete disconnect.
I’m not alone in feeling this way. I may not be particularly smart about politics, but I have enough common sense to see how Senator Obama’s actions are being perceived amongst my peers. I wouldn’t keep writing to you about this if I didn’t feel it was important … as well as in the DNC’s best interests.
Thank you for your consideration.
Regarding recent polling, the Gallop Poll has had Obama and McCain in an essential statistical dead heat for a while. And, though it’s true that the pattern is for Obama to be the one who pulls ahead (albeit slightly), that could be do to polling error as much as anything else. That is why my priorities are first, focus on advocating for Hillary all the way up to the convention. Then, should BO become the nominee, I’ll work my ass off for McCain because I think that if you really want to maximize the power of your vote to tip the scales away from Obama, that will be the only way. But, first, on to Denver.
I’m off, too. My husband is planting my red bud and white fringe trees and I need to tell him where to put them. Also, the deer flies are killing me, my legs are a mess. Talk to you later.
Thanks Andersen – wanted to take portions from it to the SD’s.
Drac
#232 PA4HILL08
Thank you! I’ll be studying it between now and then.
Marylandpuma: Thank you for getting your words out there and bringing sanity… I haven’t been online all afternoon and was dismayed to find this”infighting” going on… don’t know what it’s all about, but please… let’s keep thinking about the goal and draw people to us and our determination to win back the DNC, clean it up, wash it up, make it the sparkling beacon it can be. We are united in this front and we must stay united…
Thank you for letting me spout off here, but I really enjoy the diversity of opinion, energy and purpose of this group …
# 207 mcr
merit pay for teachers . . . hmmm. Mittens ( the former govenor of MA ) had the same idea. He was going to give pay raises to the teachers in stable white communities where students score well in standardized achievement tests as “rewards”???????
I guess that means that if you teach in a lower-income
multicultural area, or your students are newly arrived in this country, it’s your fault if they need remedial assistance in order to score well.
Is there anything this candidate will not say or promise?
Re: Fox reports that Tom Hayden (of Jane Fonda fame) is upset about O(pportunist)’s position re Iraq and is speaking out about it on his blog.
#234 ladyhawkke on 07.05.08 at 5:10 pm
#190 ANTIFISH He’s not aging, he just quit dying his hair! ….There is no way that a 47 year old man like Obama had all black hair, he had to have some gray and now that he’s campaigning, he has not time to dye it.
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Aw, Obama has plenty of time, he is this perfect organized candidate. The True Reason is that he wanted to look young for the Kos types but now he wants to look older for the voters he’s courting now.
Firebelle PUMA, I think your letter is FABULOUS!!! Really savvy. Much appreciated for sharing. So, while sharing our letters, here’s a copy of one of my recent literary works (!) to Nancy Pelosi. It’s not as sophisticated as yours. Mine’s a bit more off the cuff, which I don’t usually do, but sometimes I’m just seething and haven’t the patience to wait a day or so to edit and “refine” (wow, that words takes on new meaning these days!).
Dear Speaker Pelosi:
I have been a lifelong Democrat. Most recently, I heard you in an interview where you waxed poetic about the attributes of Barack Obama, repeating numerous times about his (presumably sound and wise) “judgment”. Do you think that abusing cocaine, aligning oneself with Bill Ayers, ignoring dilapidated public housing in your congressional district and then affiliating yourself with the slumlord of those buildings, sitting in a hate-mongering church that elevated Farrakhan to great heights, lying about one’s relationship with Khalidi, being willing to sit down with the leaders of enemy nations, and flip flopping on a daily basis shows good judgment?
You have been a profound disappointment in your role as a leader in the Democratic party. I officially left the party, as it has derailed itself and been taken over by autocrats.
I will never vote for Obama. He simply isn’t up to the job.
I regret that I don’t live in your district as it would give me great pleasure to be able to vote you out of office during the next election cycle when your job is up for grabs. Speaking of which, if you’re so excited about Obama bringing a fresh new perspective to Washington, I always wonder why you and others who make that claim with such passion continue to stay in office. If Washington has become so stale and so overrun by those who’ve been there too long, then why not leave and make room for the fresh Obama’s of the world to fill your place? But then, I suppose, you and others feel you are not part of the old Washington which you speak of with such distain. How convenient.
232 Pa4Hill i read that its very good. As we certainly want to remaim peaceful and respectful as Hillary would be herself. Fox hasn’t said to many good things today about noname.I have been in here going through the links. Will be back later to read the next 100
Re: Obama drawing crowds
If you check on some of BO’s early speeches you will discover that he placed them before or after major events. People coming out of a rock concert would be included in pictures with a few obamabots wildly waving signs. The implication was that all these people had turned our to hear the messianic one speak.
The BO campaign workers are masters of manipulation and deception.
#148 go
I demand to know where you got that video of me. I didn’t know anyone had a camera turned on when I was expressing my reaction to the “Unity” fiasco.
#163 DaddysDarlin on 07.05.08 at 3:58 pm
tree, I haven’t seen you before, welcome. I have suffered anxiety and panic disorder since I was a child, didn’t have a name for what was happening to me until I was an adult though.
I know how hard it is to overcome when you are in the midst of an attack and I have tried many things, counting, bouncing a ball etc.
I am sorry you suffer so, and I feel for you.
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There is a wonderful book by Claire Weekes called HOPE AND HELP FOR YOUR NERVES that gives a way of dealing with such ‘panic attacks’ . It came out years ago but was very popular so I’m sure there are plenty of copies still around.
Anna7000 very nice letter. I realy liked it.
anna7000- yes,I think that should be the strategy. I think we should focus on Hillary up until the convention, if she is not the nominee, then we turn our focus to getting McCain elected.
There was mention yesterday of a swing state strategy and I had to get off the blog and don’t think I will ever find it again but I think that is what we need to look at, the swing states if she is not the nominee.
BTW_ Anderson/Alucard- good to see you here. Heard from Jersey Joe? I miss his witty comments
anna7000- I missed your letter the first time, I needed to refresh, I was remarking about your earlier post, but let me say, I love the letter to Pelosi!
#241 Anna7000
I’m with you.
I think our Murphy has received similiar feedback and my understanding, based on what I’ve picked up from a few posts along the way, is that Murphy is working on some changes (probably in her “spare” time).
Take heart. Murphy is very responsive to all suggestions. Your desire may become manifest sooner than later. And, please trust that she sees the larger, longer term overall picture.
Oh, and Welcome aboard!
#254 mpdamon – Yes, Obama was a mastermind (and of course the media followed right along) at being part of an event so the crowds were huge. Case in point: The press was awestruck by his largest crowd yet in Oregon, drawing 75,000, blah, blah, blah. Then, it comes out in the media buried on page 500 in fine print that it was actually a rock concert of some very popular group and Obama came on after them. So, in other words, he appeared at an event. It wasn’t his event. But did the press point this out at the time? No. They barely made mention of it after the fact. Sickening. Sometimes I don’t know what to do with my anger, but at least there are places to go like sympathetic blogs (glad to find all of you) to find like minded people. But, while blogging is great and the support helps, I get frustrated in trying to feel empowered and trying to feel confident that my voice will make a difference. But, I remind myself that I’m only one person and I’m doing what I can. Hopefully, collectively, we’ll swing this election.
251 turndownobama – that was my feeling also. He wants to now look more mature to those who feel he is too young. Again, a flip flop.
254 mpdamon – I always wondered why the media failed to mention that crowd of 75k in Oregon was there for a rock concert, not just to see BO. I don’t even remember FOX picking up on it.
Next BO will be announcing his age as 74 and not 47.
Re: Barack at Risk (Hayden is a Supporter of BO)
By Tom Hayden, 7-5-08
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080721/hayden
“Call him slippery or nuanced, Barack Obama’s core position on Iraq has always been more ambiguous than audacious. Now it is catching up with him, as his latest remarks are questioned by the Republicans, the mainstream media and the antiwar movement. He could put his candidacy at risk if his audacity continues to shrivel….”
That way he can be both older and younger than McCain
navyvet48, sandipuma & others: thank you for posting the additional list of HRC high profile supporters.
Just another way to build up our base, am working on pulling all the names together & then I’ll post ‘em all. PUMA people can ponder their contact lists (“who do ya know?”) and / or, email PUMA info to any of the folks on the list who really ring their bell.
the crowds, I think for the time being is one his main targets: the golden boy and his gang want to show the world his ability to gather people, but it just happen that if you look back in history, the totalitarians also have the same desires as the golden boy, I HOPE AT THE END THEY DO NOT FORCE PEOPLE TO GO HIS MEETINGS
I do not know if AMERICANS realize that something very fishie and undemocratic is cooking in the demo. party
Abe Lincoln
I was thinking about the Gettysburg address yesterday & just looked it up online. Here’s part of it for your reading pleasure:
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war.
etc. etc. etc., Then:
“It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
Anna7000
That was a wonderful letter to Pelosi!!!
255 mpdamon
I always have an eye on you! LOL!
#244 Anna7000,
“That is why my priorities are first, focus on advocating for Hillary all the way up to the convention. Then, should BO become the nominee, I’ll work my ass off for McCain because I think that if you really want to maximize the power of your vote to tip the scales away from Obama, that will be the only way. But, first, on to Denver”
You and I are 100% on the same page here!
EXTRA TRAVEL TIPS to DENVER
#64 TAFFY Just want to say that you can often add a twin blowup mattress to get a third person in a room — pretend it is a dorm cuz it will be crowded.
Mark everything you brring with a name and contact number (i.e.phones, cameras, sleeping bags, jackets.etc. just in case…)Might help if you can attach your phone and or camera to your body so you don’t riski setting it down and losing it or it being stolen or getting confused with someone else who has exactly the same type you have. Bring chargers. You can probably bring ice chests to keep on the bus to put in water, drinks ans sandwiches — both for the trip and once you get there. If you have ALOT to carry you can mail it to either your hotel, the nearest post office (general delivery) and /or someplace like a Mailboxes, etc. in advance of your arrivalthey will keep it for you until you pick it up. May be a small fee at the mailbox place. Call either one on their instructions to mail something. My husband goes on a camping/poker trip every year and he sends his sleeping bag, tent and heavy or bulky items to the post office there so he picks up his stuff on the way.
Just some other ideas for the HIllary 08 trip!!!
I feel like I should be doing a cheerleading cheer for evryone!!! : )
diva2
I wanted to pass on this man’s videos on YouTube. He has made many and you should all check them out…This is his logo … 527anamericanvoice
Just go to YouTube and type in this to search his many videos.. Thanks… now off to pay bills… ugh!!!
ST. LOUIS (Reuters) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said on Saturday his plan to end the Iraq war was unchanged and he was puzzled by the sharp reaction to his statement this week that he might “refine” his timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat troops.
“For me to say that I’m going to refine my policies I don’t think in any way is inconsistent with prior statements and doesn’t change my strategic view that this war has to end and that I’m going to end it as president,” Obama told reporters on his campaign plane.
Obama, who based his drive to capture the Democratic nomination on his early and ardent opposition to the war, said on Wednesday he might alter his plan to bring combat troops home within 16 months of taking office if conditions on the ground changed.
The comment drew heavy coverage and sharp criticism from some on the left and the right, with Republicans saying it showed he was vacillating on Iraq.
He was “puzzled”… hmmmm…flip…flop….what part of that is puzzling?
#258 GOSUF4HILL
Regarding the swing state strategy, in yesterday’s post #1137 matt2008A wrote:
There are going to be more Swing states this election, so I think many of us will see action. Of course the big states need lots of attention:
OH, FL, PA, MI
FL looks pretty solid for McCain, OH, MI lean McCain and PA leans BO
Then some moderate sized states:
VA, WI, MN, CO, MO
VA & CO are tossups, MN & WI are leaning BO & MO is pretty strong for McCain
Smaller states:
NV, OR, NM, NH, IA
OR & NM are too close to call, NV & NH lean McCain & IA leans BO
These are some other important states where recent polls show it getting close:
MA, CT, NJ, NY
These are traditional blue states although new polls show McCain leading in MA, tied in CT, within 2 pts in NJ and within 5 pts in NY.
NJ & MA would be good states to contest as they have lots of EVs and are surprisingly close. (Polls have been pretty close there for quite some time)
Since my Pelosi letter was such a hit (!), here’s my latest that I had sent to every single super delegate. (I have another one in the pipeline, but I’m waiting until we get closer to the convention so it can be as current as possible regarding BO’s flip flopping):
I am writing to you as a lifelong Democrat, as a Hillary Clinton supporter and a concerned American citizen. If you are a Clinton supporter, thank you. If you are an Obama supporter, thank you in advance for reading my letter and for your consideration. If you are undecided, I urge you to place your support behind Senator Clinton.
Being deeply involved this election cycle, I have been outraged by the litany of misguided, misinformed and manipulative actions by the media, the DNC and the Obama campaign which resulted in a distortion of Senator Clinton’s image in the public’s mind, at best. At worst, there have been back room deals that have threatened the very fabric of our democracy.
Senator Obama’s nomination should not be inevitable. The ultimate selection of the Democratic nominee hinges on 1) all delegates being seated at the convention and having their rightful vote, and 2) superdelegate’s votes.
As a superdelegate, I urge you to do all you can to ensure that Clinton’s support is solidified and registered at the convention. She is by far and away not only the most qualified candidate, but she is also the candidate who does not have a history of cocaine abuse, affiliations with hate mongers (Wright, Farrakhan), criminals (Rezko) and terrorists (Ayers, Khalidi) along with a propensity to minimize those relationships, neglect of thousands of constituents suffering in dilapidated pubic housing while simultaneously becoming aligned with the slumlord of those buildings, a pitifully short voting record with no proof of being a unifier (in fact quite the opposite), a poor grasp of history, a dangerously naïve view of national security and foreign policy, a campaign strategy rooted in ruthless Chicago politics, or a profoundly confused platform that appears to shift and switch and flip-flop by the day most recently embracing Bush’s faith-based initiatives and now “refining” his timeline for troop withdrawal from Iraq. Who is this man and what does he stand for???
This election should be a no-brainer. We don’t nominate individuals with one year of experience in Congress (the rest of the term has been spent campaigning) and the kind of history that Barack Obama has. It is simply not done, and for good reason. Let’s not start now.
Clinton has spent 35 years of her life as a public servant. She is wildly intelligent with a mind boggling grasp of national and international policy. She has a breadth and depth of experience worthy of the job description of POTUS. She has a history in Congress of both reaching across the isle to get things done and holding her ground when she felt it necessary. She has a brilliantly articulated platform and has garnered support from all quarters. She won the popular vote. She won the key states Democrats must win in order to win in the general election. She won when she was outspent by Obama many times over. She won despite a relentless onslaught of negative media that was not deserved. She won without the DNC speaking out when she was the victim time and again of misogyny. She is smart, capable, strong, and resilient. She has been vetted and survived.
She will be our next President if you do your part. With this letter, I am doing mine.
Hey, Tree and Sandy, I am saying hi now. I am a firm Hillary supporter, have been from day one. Last night I tried to go to the forum to see if I could find out how much had been donated to pay down Hillary’s debt, only to see that Google had me listed as a bot. Then I went to Hillary’s voice to sign a pledge not to vote for Obama, and was informed I had already commented….NOT. When I tried to join the group they said they couldn’t reach my email and if I was a troll I should just go away. I just went and deleted my Google search history, but don’t know how to get rid of the google toolbar. Can anyone tell me, please. I want nothing further to do with Google. Anyway, I have contributed what I could to Hillary, and when I can afford it,I will donate here(I live on just over $640.00 a month, have no transportation and am disabled). But anyone who is against NoBama is ok with me and that includes you.
blessings and hope all are well. I will be with you in Denver in spirit.
Witchy 1
Re: Rising Convention Costs and Delays Worry Democrats
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/us/politics/06convention.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
“…he faces a daunting challenge as he prepares to claim the nomination in August: a Democratic convention effort marred by costly setbacks and embarrassing delays….”
Dear Pumas
I’d just like to add the following thoughts about preparations for Denver and the concerns that some may have about how police will treat protestors.
I’m a volunteer firefighter, and I have several friends in law enforcement. Most police officers are really nice people. They aren’t looking for a confrontation. They aren’t looking to arrest people. Their goal, first and foremost, is to go home safely to their families at the end of the day. They want the same for the protestors.
Dealing with protestors is only a small part of their responsibilities. At one extreme, they have to worry about the potential for terrorism. The convention is a high-profile target. At the other, they have to deal with such mundane issues as traffic control, which gets to be a pain real quick and can easily irritate even the most patient police officer.
If I were able to go to Denver, I would make it my mission to thank every police officer I saw for helping to keep us safe. I would thank the police for the difficult job they do every day and for their extra efforts at the convention and other high-profile events. Police like hearing “thank you” as much as we do.
Stop for a moment and mentally don the uniform of a police officer. You won’t automatically be loved and respected the way firefighters are. Rather, many people will automatically consider you the bad guy, if only because they know you could ticket them for something.
Your job is to keep everyone safe, not an easy task when you don’t know what people will do and how far things could escalate. You certainly don’t want to get hurt yourself. Nor do you want to hurt anyone else. And yet, if your life is on the line, you will do what you must.
I won’t belabor the point. You can all envision what you might feel like if you were wearing the uniform and responsible for ensuring everyone’s safety.
And now, dear friends, I must get some of my own work done. Our movement is important, but it doesn’t pay my bills.
HILLARY RUNNING for PRESIDENT
Just a reminder, I think it has been previously mentioned, but from now on I think it is a good idea to let everyone know all the time that Hillary IS running for President and you plan on her beating Obama, etc. and suggest they write their local Senator, etc. You never know who might make the effort to send a letter or get involved. I even started talking about Senator Clinton still in the race and PUMAS to the guy who was hanging some new blinds for me! He said he did NOT know she was still in the race.
Ok, off my soap box…
Yahoo to all of you!!
#276 Witchy 1. Thats dedication. Thanks for your effort
#275 Anna700 – WOW – great letters – I thought we were all stupid illiterate dead enders – where is this coming from (sarcasm there)
#278 Firebelle Puma.. As the widow of a fallen police officer…I just want to say, “thank you” for that post.
LMAO at the Utube—what the PUMA said to the DNC.
Kudos to #21 Daddys Darlin for having such courage.
To #279 diva2. To expand on your idea, I think it’s wise to find out who all of your elected officials support (irrespective of whether they’re super delegates or not). If they support Clinton, thank them. If they support BO, give them a piece of your mind.
One of my senators she switched from supporting Clinton to Obama (I plan to contact super delegates who did this with a specific letter for them shortly). I live in California. Here’s what I e-mailed her yesterday:
Dear Senator Boxer:
I have been a lifelong Democrat who has been living in the state of California for nearly 25 years. I was proud to support your first bid for the Senate and have voted for you every time since.
My reason for contacting you at this time pertains to your endorsement of Barack Obama for the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. I was deeply disturbed to learn that you changed your support from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama as it is abundantly clear that Mr. Obama is by far the weaker candidate.
Obama has a very poor track record in every major area of concern. He has an unimpressive voting record and precious little experience on the national or international state. He has a tendency to affiliate himself with highly questionable characters who include hate mongers, criminals and terrorists. He minimizes or flat out lies about his relationships with these individuals. Most recently, he has proven to be as typical as any politician can get, back peddling and flip flopping on core issues, including campaign finance reform, FISA, abortion and troop withdrawal from Iraq.
Since when did the Democratic party rally around a candidate with a history such as his? He doesn’t even come close to filling the awesome job description of President of the United States.
To find that you have placed your support behind him is unthinkable.
I will not be voting for you in the future because of this. And, if any of your opponents are reasonable alternatives, I will not only refrain from voting for you, but will do all I can to help get your opponent elected so that you will not return to Congress ever again. You and the Democratic Party no longer represent my values as an American.
These are serious matters. I would have expected greater vision and integrity from you.
You have totally and completely lost my support and advocacy for your role as a Senator from California.
In the CNN article (reported in Murphy’s previous blog) which states that 46% of Clinton supporters are not voting for BO, Bill Schneider says this:
“These things always take time to heal… I think Clinton’s supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them… If he doesn’t pick her, a later stage of grief is depression and then acceptance,” Schneider said. “In the end I expect Clinton supporters will accept Obama…”
Oh OK… so if Hillary’s picked to play second fiddle at the foot of Master Barookie then the terrible grief and depression that we’re going through will just dissolve into acceptance. We’ll just resign ourselves to what the DNC and the party wants us to do and go out and vote for BO.
And how deeply insightful for CNN’s senior political analyst to imply that the reason we’re reluctant to vote for BO is because we’re currently overtaken by grief and depression! I wouldn’t doubt if his image of us “pouters” is of a bunch of depressed, helpless-feeling menopausal women!
I think that we NObama Clintonites (women and men of all ages), rather than being in grief-depression, are more in a place of *energized conviction* born more out of anger (or outrage) than anything else. It’s a “fighting spirit” that’s been evoked by what happened during the primaries.
The poll is good news, given that it was taken a week after the BO/HC ‘Party Unity’ event in Unity, NH… and it confirms that there are a lot of disgruntled Clintonites out there. We need to do all we can to spread the word about PUMA and the Just Say No Deal to energize them with the resources and support they get in our coalition and to prevent some of them from resigning to BO, as Schneider expects.
#278 Firebelle PUMA – Thanks for that post. Very much appreciated, especially the reminder of what a different perception we have of police officers as compared to firefighters.
NewOrleansPuma:
I have looked into it (writeinhillary.com) and Alabama does not require anything from the candidate. I intend to check with my local board of registrars to ensure I do it “right,” with no surprises in November. In my heart of hearts though, I am still hoping for the DNC to come to its senses before it is too late.
#276 Witchy 1
For Windows XP
You can go to Control Panel, Add remove programs and fine Google for Internet Explorer and un-install it.
If you are using Vista
Control Panes, Programs and Features and un-install the google.
If you have gmail, it might not be a wise idea, unless you plan on getting another email account.
#282 Battle for the Hill
I’m so sorry to hear that your husband died in the line of duty. If you wish to correspond more offline, email me at firebellepuma@gmail.com.
All Pumas know what it’s like to lose a loved one, a friend, a coworker, or someone else we care about.
But little can compare to the line-of-duty death of a firefighter or police officer. We had our first a few years ago when one of our firefighters walked into a downed power line he didn’t see through all the smoke at a structure fire.
We all know we could be putting our lives on the line every time we answer that 911 call. But we love the job and we’re dedicated to keeping our fellow citizens safe. When someone does make that ultimate sacrifice, it hits us that much harder.
Thank you, dear Pumas, for keeping all emergency responders in your hearts.
Has anyone been over to Ed Hale’s site today, he is just a hoot! http://www.hcsfjm.com/
#286 Anna7000
Thank you.
Thanks, also, for posting your wonderful letters. Whenever we share stuff like this, it helps our fellow Pumas who may be shy about writing letters or who are less confident in their writing skills. It often helps to borrow from other people’s talking points, especially when we each bring different perspectives to the party.
#289 Thanks
#285 Violet Hill on 07.05.08 at 6:04 pm
well, if those analysts really expect us to be ‘good little Democrats’ and vote for Obama they are in for a big surprise! personally I hope many of the people who want to stay home will realize that the best way to defeat Obama is voting for McCain- though I understand that this is difficult and completely respect people who just can’t vote republican.
I just got an “Urgent Gram” from the DNC, signed by Howard Dean. Part of it said: “He’s earned our party’s nomination, now it’s time to show Barack Obama we are united behind him…” Needless to say I sent it back with a piece of my mind. What a crock.
#287 tstrainor,
I respect your inclination to write hillary in if BO is the nominee. I personally have my reservations about write-ins. I mean, look at all the shenanigans we had in the primary where the actual names of the candidates were on the ballot! Plus, I can foresee the *61’s campaign “challenging” the write-ins. This is how he managed to get ALICE PALMER and the rest of the qualified candidates off the ballot in Chicago back in 1996, by “challenging” the authenticity of the signatures on the petitions, if they were printed instead of writen in cursive they were not valid. He used technicalities to “win” before and would not surprise me if he pulled that card again in the general with the write-ins! Dirty Chicago politics at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZnlKC5vpyY
#293 it’ll be back on the air at 7:30
To Firebell and Potential Denver Protesters:
I do not pretend to be an expert, but I was an organizer for the southeast on the Turn Your Back On Bush (TYBOB) protest at the 05 inauguration. Not everyone going to Denver to protest intends to be peaceful, even if we as PUMAs do. This was true in the TYBOB action as well. Our protest was very peaceful, but we were also part of a very diverse and huge group of protesters over all, many of who were not there to be peaceful, but to wreak havoc. Expect this. And Firebelle, I agree be courteous and respectful to law enforcement personnel, but take precautions. My husband, who is a former law enforcement officer gave me some very sage advice and it turned out to be very helpful. He pointed out that under intense pressure (for example riot control), policemen are only human…they go into a fight or flight mode, but they are paid to heed the fight message and not flee. Some of them can be on a hair trigger if things begin to turn rowdy. He made me promise to be very situationally aware at all times and to have a plan for exiting the area. As it turned out, things did get a bit crazy and I could not exit (yep we were all kept behind a very large fenced in area of about 6 square blocks) – but I remembered to stay situationally aware and I worked to keep everyone around me calm. Our protest called for us to be right on the very first line of the parade route – so the TYBOBers were face-to-face with big state troopers in riot gear. The protest swelled to huge crowds behind us and we could tell from the roar of the crowd that it was getting out of hand in some places. Tear gas was used in some locations (not where I was thank God!) In hind sight, I am glad we (TYBOBers) were on the frontline -I think the TYBOBers helped to keep the situation diffused and we worked to make sure that the state troopers knew we had no aggressive intentions. Having said all that, I do not intend to frighten anyone – and there is a part of me that is chafing at the bit to go to Denver, however, as our fearless PUMA leaders organize this protest, I think we need to start having candid discussions about possible scenarios, meet-up points for all PUMAs, PAC cell leaders, conference now lines/or centralized texting to tranmit important information, and phone numbers for people who need help. Having some free lawyers in the Denver area lined up might not be a bad idea either. I may be preaching to the choir….
#4 Anna7000 on 07.05.08 at 1:55 pm
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And WELCOME ABOARD the Puma movement train!
http://pumapacusa.org
Suef, if you are around, I heard we are from the same neck of the woods. Are you going to Denver? If so maybe we can get some car pools going to get to where the buses will load up. Want to chat about that?
#297 tstrainor
Very good input. Thank you.
Goalucard,
Here’s the link to Hillary’s superdegate letter.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/clinton_letter_to_superdelegat.html
So Bill Schneider says I’m going through stages of grief and in the last stage I’m supposed to accept. Being from Michigan I don’t just ACCEPT being thrown away or counted as half (or what ever they think Michigan is now) I’m not GETTING OVER it PERIOD . It THEM not ME who needs to come to a point of acceptant. I’m not voting for Obama – ACCEPT THAT! (will ya)
OOOOOOoooooooooooo..I like this.
Obama was ’selected’ NOT ‘elected’
I have a new slogan for him.
“Yes We CON”
#284 ANNA7000 I think your letter was terrific. Here are some of myy additional thoughts. I am rambling on but think all delegates need to be reminded they have a choice who to vote for and kinda give them “permission” to vote for Senator Clinton.
May I add that you might want to remind her and other delegates that it is “OK” to make her vote for the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, SENATOR CLINTON at the convention? To truly beat Senator McCain she knows Senator Clinton is the only one that definitely can do that. I trust you will make the best and RIGHT decision and cast your vote for Senator Clinton for the Democratic nominee.
You might also point out that the polls continue to show that Obama has not made any huge jumps since he was declared the nominee. He has flip flopped so many times that he has angered most voting groups and has shown he is so-called “judgement” is weak at best. (I saw this earlier where someone said he had angered jews, Catholics, white working class, women, vets, etc.)
which are compromised of far more than the African American vote.ALSO, I just want to remind you that in November MOST college kids will be in school, preoccupied with midterms and other school obligations so counting on their vote is risky at best. Senator Obama has isolated the base of democratic voters.
For the sake of our country and the voters YOU represent I ask that you vote for SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON. some people may not always like her as an individual but you KNOW she is the one we need for our country to get us out of the economic mess, protect our country nationally and internationally and can and will take charge of the gas price and oil drilling issues
Finally, who do you think will be the best one to protect your children and grandchildren??
Thank you!
Note:
I feel like we need to remind them that:
1. It is now the time to vote for Senator Clinton, the BEST candidate.
2. That Senator Obama’s judgement lacks creditbilty
3. He hasn’t a clue where he stands on any issue whereas Senator Clinton knows EXACTLY where she stands AND has specific plans on how to implement her strategic plan.
At this point all they have done is endorse Senator Obama they don’t actually VOTE until the convention and that is when it makes a difference.
Okay my soap box is wearing out…Thanks for listening
#303 elect2009
I love that … “Yes we con.”
#253 sandipuma on 07.05.08 at 5:21 pm
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Thanks, sandi rodham puma! I’m trying to catch up on some posts as well after getting some updates to the Acton Center completed. Unfortunately for me I always end up reading them from the most recent backwards and by the time I get to the beginning, the end is again no where in sight!
#297 tstrainor on 07.05.08 at 6:35 pm
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Excellant information! Thanks for sharing!
Firebelle – you are very welcome. I hope I can be helpful even if I don’t go to Denver.
#247 DancesWithPumas on 07.05.08 at 5:16 pm #232 PA4HILL08
Thank you! I’ll be studying it between now and then.
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Welcome!
SUGGESTION ON POSTING
Hi All, I would like to make a suggestion for our posts. I believe someone had previously mentioned capitalizing who your reply is for (at least that is what I thought they said or I made it up in my mind
What would help me is that whenever you do post is to put a heading on the top. A few examples are:
LETTER to ALL SUPERDELEGATES
POLLS SHOW OBAMA NOT GETTING MUCH OF A BUMP
YOUTUBE TRUBUTE to SENATOR Clinton
MORE INFO ON BUSES TO DENVER
INFO ON RALLY’s IN DENVER
So whenever we are trying to go through all the posts we have at least some idea what they are about and may help us target and get through them a bit faster.
Worth reading now …..Hillary’s 1969 commencement address at Wellelsley….
http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ACR0cjdiI
As disturbing as this is, I think this should be kept in the minds of people…i think it will distroy bho! And shame on you james carvelle(sp)…for defending this killer!
I was at a picnic y’day and many people never knew this about BHO…not sure where they were ….but they now are not voting for him!
#241 Anna7000 on 07.05.08 at 5:13 pm
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If you have not already dropped Murphy a note to introduce yourself, Im sure she’d appreciuate it. I know she’s always looking for talented people to help out and with your activism history and experiences, I’m sure you could offer her your insights and they’d truly be welcomed!
Drop her a line at murphy@pumapac.org
# 302 Star Dust
I agree. I think if we only look at grief as a personal and not societal process, the stages are futile. Thinking of grief as a individual process only flaunts egotism. Then each stage, crying, denial, rage, etc, is self-centered. Then those who get stuck in those phases can’t understand why everyone thinks they are whining. My 2 cents.
Be back shortly! Must take a break from all this for awhile! Eyes going crossed and butt falling asleep! LOL
I can accept headings, but capital letters are very difficult for me to read.
With regards to the 7:30 pm show, is this a new show or the same one aired at 5:30 pm?
#304 diva…re: your post where you say, “I saw this earlier where someone said he had angered jews, Catholics, white working class, women, vets, etc.” -
I’m beginning to regard Obama as an “EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENDER”.
Hey PUMA guys and gals,
New video….this one took awhile. whew.
Take a look, k?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5gm8XKv_w
#316 The 5:30 show didn’t air, she needed more time to prepare. Will air at 7:30 EST.
OBAMA -EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENDER
#317 Battlefor hill SO TRUE and so funny! Good point.
Just wanted to give an update regarding the NOBama mural in Houston. Personally, I am ashamed of myself for just finding this place 2 days ago. I consider myself metropolitan, in the know, etc. It all comes down to this. A “trendy” restaurant called The Breakfast Klub which caters to those who enjoy traditional “southern” ( I am choosing my words carefully so that this entry does not offend anyone ) types of food. Google up the name for its history and on-line menu. The line I was talking about, upthread, is part of the “mystique” of the place. What the people in line were holding were menus with filled out orders/requests. Staffers then come out and gathers these and then your order is ready when you get inside. The building across the street from the restaurant is also property of the owner of this restaurant. This was NOBama’s Houston Headquarters during the primaries. It is now a novelty shop that sells T-Shirts, caps, and other heritage/cultural things. They provide space there for lectures, book signings, and other interests that support the local arts. When I searched for common topics, Ghana was the subject of many listed interests, etc. Tavis Smiley has done some event in the past as well as Sheila Jackson Lee.
With that said, I am glad I did the investigation because I was curious. It is there, but now I know the real weight of its importance and so be it. If anyone is interested in a link to the updated mural or local comments, let me know and I will pass it along to you. Hope everyone is having a great extended weekend
Testing something out regarding posting. Seeing if the text shows up in read. If not ignore this post.
290 ladyhawkke on 07.05.08 at 6:17 pm Has anyone been over to Ed Hale’s site today, he is just a hoot! http://www.hcsfjm.com/
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OMG – he is getting too funny.
#23 Bradfod…
I see that some of Sen. Clintons supporters are planning on not voting come November. Bad idea Pumas.
First for every vote you give Sen. McCain BO needs two to move ahead.
For every one that dosen’t vote he only needs one too move ahead.
I know some of you feel bad about voting for Sen. McCain but please look at the alternative come November.
BO would sooner have you stay home in November than to vote for McCain.
Just a thought.
I have read that 10% of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain, 20-30% will not vote for *61 nor McCain. I am one of these voters in the later category. As much as I understand your reasoning for wanting to make sure *61 does not have a chance by voting for McCain…I do not admire anything about the Republican party, nada! Voting for a party that is for everything I do not believe in is a place I will not go. As much as I fear *61 policies and the DNC criminal action in this election, I fear the endless attempted conquest of the middle east by the Republicans. They also have no history of supporting any womens rights, the differences are massive. I find it more difficult to post on the PUMA site because not voting for McCain is making me feel like I no longer belong here. The thing we have in common is how we got here, but like the people that support McCain voting now, I respect your vote so please respect our reasoning too. I am a PUMA but not a person that is willing to have a Republican win for any cost, sorry.
#33 Firebelle Puma I totally agree with you 100%. Thank you for your thoughts and being supportive to all in a positive way is the only way we can be a real force to reckon with.
#258 – GOSUE4HIL – good to see you here as well – No, I think our comrade Jersey Joe – must have gone by the wayside somewhere – I liked his comments as well.
Alucard Rodham Puma
#319 N. Lee
Great video!
If you can slow down the text a bit so it is easier for slow readers such as myself would be perfert.
Thanks.
N Lee – great video!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5gm8XKv_w
#318 N. Lee
Awesome! 100 percent awesome! The ratings were disabled but I saved and will be sending it out.
Thanks for that great video, along with the others.
Super!
#301 Anti Rodham Fish – Thank you my dear.
#318 N. Lee – Loved the video!
… and so little Puma kitties another mystery about Obama continues……………….
On other thing we might want to remember when quoting from the above quote…
“So if you suspect that some people are trolls, treat them with dignity, compassion, and respect, just as our dear Hillary would. Bring them into the light. Don’t push them back into the dark.”
is that every person you call a troll is a Democrat, someone that believes their vote is as valuable as yours. No one ever changes their views by being attacked, only reason and kindness makes people understand.
BillieJo,
There are many here, like you, who will sit out the election in November. There is no reason to feel bad about it. Murphy clearly states in the “About” section up top that Pumapac does not advocate any one plan of action for the general election. As she stated, some will vote for McCain, some will vote for a third party, some will write in Hillary and some will just stay home.
While some of us have posted our opinions on the merits, or pitfalls, of each of these courses of action, they are just that, opinions, and not meant to sway others or make anyone feel bad about their own personal decision.
Hey everyone…..I hope you all saw the New York Times editorial I posted on this morning’s Open Thread – an example of the real truth finally surfacing in the mains tream media about the presumptive nominee.
All is not what it seems to be with this man and the more we see, the more we realize (just like the SD’s should be seeing) that Senator Clinton was the right choice all along.
I don’ t know about any of you, but I never liked Kool Aid anyway…..we called it “bug juice” at camp when I was a kid…disgusting. But I fail to see the mesmerization qualities of this man-
People were talking about the five stages of grief before that Hill fans are going through –
What about the stages of denial that the DNC must go thru when they acknowledge their huge error in judgement? Denial – it’s not a river in Egypt. It is what will put BO in office in November, I fear, very strongly…because, like George Bush,there is no humility among the D party elders – they cannot,and will not admit, when they are wrong……Pumas keep fighting…..
#318 N. Lee…Excellent video…Everyone should go see it. The birth certificate issue should not be allowed to slip by or go away.
#329 Go Rodham Alucard,
You are welcome my dear!
Here’s something interesting. Go to this website and chose one of the names that endorsed Bo, then wait a few seconds, and watch the news headline by their name change. Put two and two together and you’ll see what they’re getting for their endorsement. I’ve only checked a few but its interesting.
http://superdelegates.org/Category:Delegates_who_endorsed_Barack_Obama
To BillieJo #324
With all due respect to you and to your argument — I am wondering, how will you feel or what will you do if Hussein becomes President? I understand how voting for McCain will mean voting against your Democratic ideals and principles but we are not fighting the Republicans at this particular juncture. Instead, we are fighting against the crooked ways of the DNC that got Hussein the nomination.
If the polls keep going they way they have been, Hussein will walk right into the White House. Even FL is now almost a tie. CO and IA are for Obama. Even in McCain’s home state of AZ, he is only leading by 9 points. Meanwhile, Hussein is leading by wide margins in blue states and by statistically significant numbers in traditionally red states.
I do not wish to debate you on this but based on your argument, you would be ok having Hussein President of the United States.
Personally, I will do anything in my power to prevent Hussein from becoming President and really, at this point, the only power I have is to vote for McCain. Unless Hussein gets struck by lightning, he will get the nomination in August. There is no stopping him. If you go to the DNCC website, Hussein’s face is all over. It will take a miracle to get our Hillary to win the nomination this year.
If McCain wins in November, Hillary can run again in 2012. If Hussein does, not only will the wrongdoings of the DNC be validated, he most likely will stay in office until 2012, making a Hillary bid for the Presidency highly unlikely.
Please, rethink your stand. Not voting for McCain is practically a vote for Hussein.
Jeremy :
Regarding our skills, you can put me down for :
Creative artwork, production of product, I can pay for some items if it means getting it done quickly instead of raising money.
Anna 7000 : is right. Time is ticking – we need to share our resources with other sites. We have to help each other because if everyone has to do everything from scratch, we will be weak.
Perhaps Murphy will post that other like minded groups are welcome to our flyers, signage, ideas, etc etc. Whether they want the PUMA logo is not the point. Our point is Obama cannot be led into the White House. We need to get stronger and get more people to our cause.
My neighbor is a World War II vet – 90+ years old. He has agreed to bring my poster to the Veterans Center or where ever he goes – I am going to charm his friend into doing the same.
I might give my staff a day off and ask them if they wouldn’t mind handing out some flyers.
#318 N. Lee,
That was a great video! Wow! You obviously put a lot of work into it. It needs to get to the MSM.
Thank you for your dedication.
Obama caught in a lie video
This guy is really being exposed and it not pretty people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIkmTVit8vw
I can not understand why something so vital as the birth certificate has not become a big story. The cable news should have their investigators all over this story. Heck, the US government should be checking it out also.
#53 DancesWithPumas
Just got home and am catching up on the comments – want to second your request to stop the drama already.
#338 Fred~Will add you with the next revision. Thanks for your great work!
#341 Middle age female
hey’re probably afraid that if they investigate too much it will bring out skeletons in too many closets, such as how was he able to hide he did have proper citizenship when he became a Senator.
whoops – meant “main stream media”….
AND NOW FOR MY INSPIRATIONAL QUOTE OF THE DAY…
“YES LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT VISION. BUT LEADERSHIP IS EQUALLY ABOUT CREATING A CLIMATE WHERE THE TRUTH IS HEARD AND THE BRUTAL FACTS CONFRONTED.
THERE’S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO “HAVE YOUR SAY” AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THE GOOD-TO-GREAT LEADERS UNDERSTOOD THIS DISTINCTION, CREATING A CULTURE WHEREIN PEOPLEHAD A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AND ULTIMATELY, FOR THE TRUTH TO BE HEARD.” From “Good to Great” Jim Collins…
POST HEADINGS
POST HEADINGS
Sorry I hit the wrong key and the post posted before I finished:
I think it’s a great idea (for all blogs) if posters have an easy-to-read heading at the top. That way, when scrolling through hundreds of posts, if someone is looking for specific things, it’ll be a lot easier to find.
#337 drgav,
Please read my post at #332. We should respect one another’s views on how each of us will handle the election in November. This is not a forum for imposing our personal beliefs on others. There are many here who cannot vote for a Republican. That is their prerogative.
#343
Jeremy, I don’t really have any talents. I’m just a research scientist and part time genealogist. Having said that, both of those require some investigation techniques. So you can put me down as your assistant investigative sleuth.
#349 MuchAdoAboutSomething
Does that mean you have access to information on family names and history, such as births and deaths?
Antifish
please read my post #272 on todays open thread. It also applies to you
#348 — Hi Antifish
Thank you — I do recognize that. I am not imposing by any means. This is all a healthy discussion (at least that is what my intention is) about our choices. Like I said, I do not wish to debate BillieJo because I respect his/her opinion inasmuch as I respect everyone else’s. I just wanted to discuss. I care deeply for this country and I feel very strongly about not wanting Hussein to become President.
My sincerest apologies if I wronged BillieJo or anybody with my comment…
Takes a while to read all the posts . . . enjoyable reading though.
#270 goanderson: I have my eye on you too.lol
#324 Billie et al: The decision of who to cast a vote for is extremely important especially this election. I’m sure we will all make what we consider to be the most responsible decision . . . however we will not all make the same decision. some are not ready to support McCain at this time . . . as for the future, who knows. When the VP candidate is announced, that will have to be factered in.
I’m convinced that Schneider is a kool-aid drinker.
#350 TrishfromCanada
Some of that information. It just depends on what it is. Deaths – yes. Births- maybe not. I think I know where you are going with this. I’ll look but my guess is that any of that information has been removed from any database that I could get to.
341 Middle age female on 07.05.08 at 7:37 pm
Just my theory and I think another fellow PUMA posted something similar. Remember when NOBama had his arsenal of supers endorse when he needed them? Richardson after New Hampshire and prior to Super Tuesday.
Edwards after IN and NC (NOBama took a big hit with IN) and the big wins of WV and KY.
JCarter constantly reminding us that he was going to but didn’t officially do so until after PR. If some of my times are incorrect, forgive. But you can see the pattern.
I believe the original is there. He is holding on to it when the time comes that it is a big issue. He will have it and …”See, I told you everything was cool.” Recall Larry Johnson and the MO tape? Got a lot of speculative coverage and then…well speculation. This is my take.
#355 Jeremy
I agree with your take, Bo can fall into an outhouse and come up wearing a tuxedo, irritates the heck out of me.
I feel like I’ve missed some stuff that went on today…
Excellent Post Firebelle Puma
#59 Firebelle Puma on 07.05.08 at 2:57 pm
If we treat everyone who comes here with compassion, dignity, and respect, we will win them all to our side. We know our hearts are in the place they need to be, evidenced by our outrage that Hillary Clinton and our fellow Americans were wronged, and cheated by the Deomocratic Party Leadership. So lets remember the righteous anger, and channel it into good.
“Alright M’aam Come Down from the Soapbox”
>steps off the soapbox<
#349 MuchAdo~time is talent. I will add with the next revision. “Sleuthing” can be informative and fun.
337 drgav Concerning your argument, please don’t take for granted that I haven’t considered all options. To make it more clear I can say I would rather see *61 in the White house than McCain. I can not let this war continue and our economy continue to go in the dumper. I can not sit by and let millions continue to go without health care. If *61 supported Republican policies, I would not let him win either. I appreciate your having well thought out your position, I would hope you would give me the same consideration. This is not my first election, I was protesting the Viet Nam war in the day, fighting for women’s rights in the 60’s…so I am not new to this game nor situation. I want Hillary as president, that is what I want. Not Obama, and not McCain!
#351 veritas 09,
Thank you, those are such kind words. I feel humbled by them and should probably work a little harder around here to live up to them.
Hey Pumas…long time no chat from. I’ve been reading posts daily. I see things like, emails received, lists to join etc. I write my letters as prompted, I do my blogging work, etc. Yet, I have to say, I’ve not received any emails from this site, nor have I been able to get any response to the requests I’ve submitted to organized support groups in my area. (North east/NY)
I’m happy to see that organization IS being cememented, that Puma’s, after one month of existence are coalescing into more precise, active groups. I just wanna be an effective part, and yes, would love to get to know some fellow felines in my area and get together for some hands-on activities!
So, if anyone can get me in the loop, I’d appreciate it. I
BTW: if you’re being called a troll, Obamabot or republican..seriously, just ignore it. YOU know why you’re here. No one’s taking time out of their day to come here, read all these posts and continually return to support the PUMA cause who isn’t just as willing, able and ambitious to create effective change as the next person.
Everyone has their own voice. Each voice can hit an ear differently. Perhaps that voice which grates on so many is JUST the one that was needed to perfectly communicate our ideas and values to that one voters who was feeling so confused?
I respect every person who stands up in the face of mass manipulation! I can judge them only by their bravery and fortitude in seeking out a bastion against public opinion and joining the PUMA pioneers as we all work towards bringing about effective, meaningful and lasting change. I say it is no mean feat, with all the false spinning being issued from every front, the non-stop bombardment of BS we’re confronted with for the past year, to have FOUND this place, and others like it!!
Therefor, I congratulate each and every person who continues to foray into the political morass that has become our presidential election of 2008! I encourage each of us to realize the determination shown by every blogger and even lurker within the PUMA circles! They’ve not given up, settled-down, rolled over or “drank the kool-aid”! My respect for each person who continues to fight against the corruption knows no bounds and it is through this that I can embrace so many people, with vastly differing view-points than my own on many major issues. Because, in the end, it is the hopes that with the mutually respect ALL our efforts will be harnessed to bring about success for each of us. Let what unites us always remain in the forefront and let us continue forward, unconquered, unassailable and unstoppable!
#315 PA4HILL08 on 07.05.08 at 6:57 pm
Be back shortly! Must take a break from all this for awhile! Eyes going crossed and butt falling asleep!
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stardust 340
greta video sure hope millions see it thanks.
#352 drgav,
Thank you for your graciousness.
oops great one too!! stardust sorry
#361 Kerri
have you actually “joined?” I thought I had but wasn’t getting emails and it turned out I hadn’t officially joined, i had only signed up to blog. just wondering if that might be the problem you’re having?
I dont know what happened today but I know its hard to talk to everyone or to give suggestions. I have done it and been talking to myself I figured LOL. I think it is a good thing though means we are growing and its a good problem to have. Now if I had a great solution would be better I know but I have faith you guys will get it.Love ya all and it will take understanding and as long as we are all on same street no prob.
#318 NLee,
Great Video!
Kerri,
i’ve got to run but if you haven’t or not sure about joining on the right hand side of the page there is a spot that says join us and you click on that.
I suspect that Obama’s birth certificate has undergone some of the same “changes” that Bush’s National Guard record underwent.
Hey . . . maybe that is the “change” we’re supposed to be believing in.
RE: FEELINGS ABOUT OTHER’S OPINIONS
Blogs are such fascinating places because so many annonymous people come together and like any cross section of society, there’s a whole mix of personalities exchanging thoughts and ideas. I think that when words are typed into print without the benefit of hearing the tone of a person’s voice, seeing their face, interpreting their body language, etc, there’s increased risk of “hearing” their words in a way other than what was intended. Add to that, each of us probably has our own set of conscious or unconscious ideas about what the limits should be when having a discourse in a setting like this. It’s a lot to navigate. I think you can never go wrong if you trust your instincts, be polite and be respectful of the other. And, on ocassion, as happens in life, we will inadvertently, step on someone else’s toes.
The big picture is, we all have one large common goal. Within that, there are understandably a lot of variations when it comes to how best to achieve that goal. But so far, I think we’re doing a pretty remarkable job as a pretty large community of folks who barely, if at all, know each other.
Thanks to everyone today who welcomed me, who provided feedback, and for all of the posts that provided useful information, encouragement and some really good laughs!
#370 MPDAMON I do believe he has a phony birth certificate but couldn’t they have made it more believable? We should contact Michael Chertoff at Homeland Security and ask if Obama could get a security clearance.
Some links if they hasn’t be done already
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
This one is funny, particularly when Mr. Tom replaces the bus with a garbage truck.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/01/hillaryclinton.uselections2008
This is a two part Guardian article reviewing similarities in the right-wing and left wing attacks on Hillary. Should be required reading for those who think the Barack “earned” the nomination.
Also No-Quarter is posting a ton of articles ’splaining Barack’s policies, policy shifts and much other fun stuff.
wow!!! watch Fox i will b back. This guy is good saying Obama heard Wright talk bad stuff McCain would be out. Watch
On Fox right now discussing *61’s flip flopping
Caps or small letters for post headings.
#316 padem I agree do what you can read and feel comfortable with.
I will do both Caps for the first letter and small letters for the rest of of the word. Hope it makes it easier for you. If you could just set the header apart by maybe putting a line between the hearder and the rest of the story I think that would be helpful. I will try adn practice this but everyone can do whatever is easier for them. Thank your for the feedback.
PUMA Talent Growl as of July 5, 2008
7:10pm CST
thatswhattimeitis: CPA (Certified Public Accountant),financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa: fluent in Spanish, photoshop CS3, PC video editing
(see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Misogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas: graphics,website design, photoshop, flash
Webfoot: Legal Research
Ginanswo: calls, faxing, copying, mailing
Michelle 47: has meeting space available(OH area) for organizational purposes
ABinNY: photographer, skills in photoshop CS2
bythelake: regular mail, email, faxes, donations
ontherocks: calls, emails, mailing SD and media
sycoram_in_MO: mails. emails, sending out flyers, calls
1of18MilforHILL08: keep addresses, emails, fax # current if changed (those of individuals or groups that others would like to contact)
MJE4HRC: writer(composing/editing letters)
Sheila7: emails(taking ideas, making a plan, and do the job)
Hill2TheHill: actress, singer, dancer (not famous) http://218467.spreadshirt.com/us/US/SHOP/
custom T-Shirts(all proceeds pledged go to Murphy@pumapac)
Peg: writing, editing, graphic design
Jeremy: amateur investigator (willing to check out and report on local events that PUMAS need to be aware of)
Fred: creative artwork, production of product (willing to pay for items needed ASAP)
MuchAdoAboutSomething: research scientist, part-time genealogy research, investigator
Anyone wishing to be added to the list put Jeremy on the first line of post and list your talent below. If anything is listed incorrectly, please advise. Thanks.
~J
Thanks for your kind words Antifish.
drvag – My sincerest apologies if I wronged BillieJo or anybody with my comment…
No apology necessary, please just remember that although some of us have different views than yours, it does not mean we haven’t done our homework and that we all are here for the same reason, that we admire and want to help Hillary. By the way, I am a woman. PEACE
#340 StarDust on 07.05.08 at 7:33 pm
Obama caught in a lie video
This guy is really being exposed and it not pretty people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIkmTVit8vw
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Thanks for the link. I will share it with others.
Hello all,
I have been at work all day. Welcome to all the new PUMAs. It is nice to have you.
I am going to try and catch-up on what I missed today.
I am voting for McCain. I realize everyone here has different ways of responding to the behavior of the DNC and I am fine with that. Many here still believe Hillary can be the nominee because the DNC will somehow come to their senses but I feel there has been to much sinister going ons for that outcome. I think once BO has his coronation those folks will vote for McCain. Partly because the BO crowd has such a tin ear they will offend even more old time Democrats with their coronation activities.
In my view (and it is a non caring outsiders view because I have always considered both parties equally corrupt and myself an independent) the Democrat Party is at some sort of crisis point. They have been out of power for a long time, they have not elected a 2 term President other than Clinton for 50 years and for some reason they treat him with contempt. This BO thing had a strange inevitability about it beginning with his speech at the last Democrat convention. I think this is the Kennedy faction vs the Clinton faction. Kennedy couldn’t take the thought of 2 president Clintons when there was only one president Kennedy so he went back to his Chicago connections and cooked up BO. If they win the presidency after the shenanigans they have pulled then their undemocratic sneaky behavior will continue. At that point there will need to be a new party who is for the average person and PUMA will be a great start. You can’t force the power hungry liberals out of the party but you can allow them to take over the party and take your principles and energy to a new party and place for The People.
By the way the Democrats and their MSM friends have shown themselves to be profoundly sexist and if you are going to treat one group of people with contempt it is pretty stupid to pick a group who make up 52% of the population and probably 58% of the people who vote. They so far have not acknowledged their sexism and their attempts to “make up” with women have been flatly ridiculous and offensive.
#226 Jeremy
Sorry did not anwer before I was listening to Blog Radio: Clintons4McCain program today with Cristi Adkins Just Say No Deal.
Yes, you may give my email. Hope I can help in some way!
#366 sheila7 :
OMG. I thought the same thing and wondered why I never received emails! I have been here since Day 1 but had never sent the JOIN email! Thanks for the heads-up – I just sent it. lol.
I have a great idea.. why don’t we all get instant messaging like SKYPE.com and use our PUMA names so we can recognise each other. We chat over there and come and post useful stuff over here. It is a free site and really easy to use. Take the personal stuff out there and then come back in – simultaneously if you want to. You can monitor who sees you online and who you allow to talk to.
Do we have an accurate list of the super delegates we should be contacting regarding Will Bowers’ Puma Call to DNC delegates. I think we should all concentrate on that one thing. Writing to Dean & Pelosi isn’t doing anything. We need to keep badgering the delegates. I am going to again contact Sen. Nelson from Florida. I believe the last time I called he had endorsed Obama but I don’t know if he gave him his delegate.
Fox Larry Elder against Obama he said he shouldnt have the Nom. Didn’t know he was so in our corner.
The polls don’t worry me much right now. The 527’s are just now gearing up. I suspect that when they do, you will see obama’s numbers drop like a rock. From what I’ve read on McCain’s web site, they don’t plan to really kick into high gear until September, since nationally that is when the most people really start paying attention to the election. The Swiftboat guys are starting to rally for McCain, the chief Swiftboat guy was McCain’s room mate at the Hanoi Hilton. He’s already on board, and it was he that took on Wesley Clark after his disastrous comments about McCain’s record. Personally i think you will see just about every Vietnam Vet support McCain. My husband is, just on that one principle and he is a lifelong Dem. Attacking McCain on that was the stupidest move the Democrats could have done. I’d worry more if the polls were still in bambi’s favor in Sept.
Hi PUMAs just finished reading the posts. There are so many wonderful letters and posts to comment on: Firebelle PUMA, Anna7000, diva2, N.Lee’s video, antifish’s explanation (#348), and so many others that I just didn’t get written down as I was taking notes. And then, some how I always seem to finish reading just in time for dinner and have to leave.
Just popped in to catch up. Before I read I thought I would share a little bit of an encounter I had yesterday.With a Dem. who shall remain nameless. As protocol demands I was greeted warmly.They were seated and looking straight into Hillary’s eyes on my t- shirt.They looked up laughing. “Hillary huh? I took the opportunity, telling them about Hillary’s Independence Day and how supporters were trying to erase her debt.That’s all I can say. Definitely a friend. Lots of laughing. Seed planted.
#384 ladyhawkke
It’s being worked on as you type
#384 ladyhawkke
I saw the list on PUMA ACTION. It’s an excel document. However, I cannot work it, it’s locked, I guess. I would like to get the list of delegates and super D in a way we can do cut and paste. Is that possible, Murphy?
Larry Elder on FOX is kicking butt on pointing out problems with Obama as a candidate.
#390 Amarissa
The final vrsion of the document will be available by monday hopefully, the locking will be changed so you can work it but not alter the data. This is for obvious reasons. It will also be available in a word document for those that do not have excel.
What I loved about the war Larry Elder just finished waging was how he made the Democratic guy (Bob) look like a fool for maintaining his spin to promote Obama. Elder didn’t let him off the hook no matter what Bob tried to say.
With regard to Hillary’s debt, it would be nice to know if all our efforts to erase her debt helped and how much she hauled in.
Jeremy:
Will help where I can,
Education: BA History, minor in economics, VA. Tech, AAS in Marketing, with a graphics illustration specialization. Know Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash, some Photoshop, worked as marketing coorindator for a fiber optics company, (trade shows, sales slicks, advertisements, database manager using ACT 4.0, and ACT 2000, which I have on my home computer if we need to use it). I work full time, but can work some in evenings and weekends.
#381~Thanks Amarissa. Regarding the list, if you want other PUMAS to contact you about your talents, I can add your email to the “closed list.” However, I need your email. If you are comfortable with posting it here, I will add it. If not, that is something we need to brainstorm. Just a thought.
Oh boy- have we Pumas found a sleuth to sniff out the mysteries of the birth certificate?
MuchAdo -off to sleuthing with you
We Pumas await anxiously upon your return
Ach..thanks! Those who pointed out my negligence to actually sign up to an email list here! Now I know.
This just reminded me of all the anger I have towards Barack Hussein Obama.
I love Harriet for sticking by her comments.
Every die hard Hillary supporter should never forget to watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s&feature=related
Thanks #395 jdona. Will add you when I revise the list.
#392 Trish from Canada Thanx. I have Word. The last time I contacted delegates was at lobbydelegates.com but a lot of them came back. They may have shut down their e-mail addresses. For myself, I would prefer a fax number as I can easily fax from my house.
Adding an Attachment to letters to Delegates
#275Anna7000
This may be off the wall, but whenever we send a note to delegates we include a one page summary of all the flip flopping of *61 as just a reminder what he has said and done? Delegates hear it all the time but putting it all in one place may help remind them “who” they are really electing. What do you think about this? Goofy or not so??
Keep smiling…
Have you all seen this site:
http://www.eyesonobama.com/superdelegates/
Nice bit of info there on SD’s.
#401 Diva2 From my recollection, I think Puma’s Call to DNC Delegates does have the flip-flopping included.
#384 LADYHAWKE RE: LIST OF DUPER DELEGATES
AND
DRAFT OF LETTER TO SUPER DELEGATES
Ladyhawke: Just Say No Deal has a complete list of super delegates that you can download as a word file or excel. It provides names, who they’re endorsing and contact info, when they have it available. I e-mailed them recently about how current the list was, however, since it noted Nancy Pelosi as Undecided. I think we all know she has very much decided. My goal is/was to target super delegates based on: 1) those who switched from Clinton to Obama (which is noted on the list), 2) undecideds, 3) Clinton supporters (to thank them), and 4) BO folks. As I’m sure many are aware by now, you can contact them en masse at the LobbyDelegates.com web site.
Meanwhile, I’m working on another letter to go to all the super delegates when convention time gets closer. Here’s a draft if anyone wants to give comments:
SUPER DELEGATE LETTER DRAFT
I am writing to you regarding the Democratic Party convention and your role as a Super Delegate. And I am writing with the presumption that you will read my letter with care and respect.
If you are a Clinton supporter, thank you. I’m counting on you to vote for her at the convention.
If you are an Obama supporter, or if you are undecided, I urge you to carefully consider my points below.
Experience and Voting Record: Barack Obama’s voting record as a state senator reveals an avoidance of controversial issues by voting “present”. In addition, during his term in office he ignored the plight of impoverished families living in deplorable conditions in public housing units that his friend and supporter Tony Rezko owned. He has precious little experience on the national or international stage. His term in Congress has essentially be a year long since he has been campaigning for President since his first year. He has not spearheaded any meaningful legislation, nor does he have a record of reaching across the isle and finding common ground in order to move legislation through.
Pattern of Disturbing Relationships: Barack Obama has a track record of affiliating himself with very questionable characters, including criminals and terrorists. This is not rumor. This is not fiction. These are established facts. And, once exposed, Obama either minimizes the relationship or claims innocence.
History of Going Back on His Word: Barack Obama made a commitment to Alice Palmer back in 1996 and then broke his word. He made a commitment to the American people not to run for President during a press conference after he won his Senate seat, citing lack of experience. He then proceeded to run for President. Most recently, he has shifted his position on several issues including campaign finance reform, FISA, abortion, gun control and Iraq troop withdrawal, while also embracing Bush’s faith based initiatives.
Media and DNC Behaviors: The media had a double standard regarding how they treated Obama and Clinton, giving Obama a free pass on countless issues that deserved scrutiny. (And when he is scrutinized, he often scolds the media for doing so.) The DNC disenfranchised millions of voters and gave Obama votes that had never been cast for him.
Senator Obama’s nomination is not inevitable. The ultimate selection of the Democratic nominee hinges on 1) all delegates being seated at the convention and having their rightful vote, and 2) superdelegate’s votes.
This election should be a no-brainer. We don’t nominate individuals with one year of experience in Congress with the kind of history that Barack Obama has. It is simply not done, and for good reason. Let’s not start now.
Clinton has spent 35 years dedicating her life to public service. She is extraordinarily intelligent. She has an impressive grasp of national and international policy. She has a Congressional track record of legislative achievement, reaching across the isle to get things done and holding her ground when necessary. She has a brilliantly articulated platform and has garnered support from all quarters. She won the popular vote. She won the key states Democrats must win in order to win in the general election. She won when she was outspent by Obama many times over. She won despite a relentless onslaught of negative media that was not deserved. She won without the DNC speaking out when she was the victim of repeated expressions of misogyny. She has been vetted and survived. And, as if that wasn’t enough, she doesn’t have a history of befriending violent characters.
Resist the urge the participate in group think. Do the right thing. Support Hillary Clinton for President.
#400 ladyhawkke
The list will include every fax number we can find. It also includes the year Governors and Senators are up for re-election
Jeremy-
I found a website http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/msoffice// that will translate a document into a variety of languages. I found the website through a feature on one of my software programs. Just highlight the document, pick a language, hit translate, and click send. Do you think this feature would be helpful as a “skill” for some of our flyers?
#392 Trish from Canada Also, I know it’s a lot to ask, but some are not that computer literate and I wonder if the Puma Call to the DNC can be shortened if possible, and put in the Action Center as a ready to go letter that we can copy and paste. It makes for getting stuff out faster like that action we took the other day when we sent e-mails to all the news media and politicians.
#405 Thanx, Trish.
#404 Anna7000
Lobby stopped updating June 6, since then many have changed their e-mail, it is no longer reliable. Pelosi will remain undecided on our list as well til she officially endorses.
Can you post the addy to the justsaynodeal list please?
#407 ladyhawkke
Can you send that to Murphy and Maryland? i’m only working on creating the list, sorry I’m of no help to you there.
Pelosi is a joke, we know she’s for Obambi. She and Dean were the ones pressuring everyone to make a decision immediately. Also, her daughter outright endorsed Obama. Pelosi has been against Hillary from the start as she wanted to be top dog and is jealous of Hillary.
Jeremy,
Writing, editing, photoshop, Internet marketing
#404 TRISH FROM CANADA RE: “ADDY”
Sorry for being thick, but what’s an “addy”?
Anna7000
welcome. You are a superpuma.We have been pounding them for over a month. Thank you for your energy.
#371 Anna
Right on!!
#413 Anna7000
addy=address
#413 Anna7000
Sorry, the website link
drgav # 337:
I agree with your arguments… those are among the reasons why I’m voting for McCain if BO is the nominee despite having always voted Democrat and having been a long-time liberal-leaning ‘progressive’ (not sure about calling myself this anymore, though).
I also think it’s OK for us to discuss the most effective means to protest the ‘08 elections and make sure BO doesn’t win, while respecting those who, at least at this time, feel reluctant to vote for McCain.
One suggestion to you, drgav:
I know there are many fun “nicknames” that many of us give BO, but maybe calling him just “Hussein” might be offensive to some people (especially outside our circles), since it might imply that being Muslim or having a Muslim name is “bad.”
Don’t know. What do others think?
Jeremy-
Logging out for the night; I’ll look for the skills updates as well as other posts to see about your response on the translations. Good night PUMAs.
—————FRED————
if you are still online, I am passing this onto you for your input.
~J
#406 webfoot~Thanks for the link and suggestion. You can go to the action center were the fliers are archived. They are in Adobe format, I believe. Correct me fellow techie PUMAs if I am wrong. Copy and paste one to a blank word document and then apply the program and see what happens. However, for now, I will add the link of the program to the list when I revise…and passing this question onto Fred——–
~FRED~ if you are here..I will pass this along to you, since you have put one of them together.
Hi Puma Family, I haven’t had time to read all the posts. We were out most of the day.
#16 I agree. For us to show the DNC we are very serious, we must vote for McCain. They are hoping we stay home or vote for an Independent. That will not defeat BO. I will push the button for McCain.
#21 I know what you mean about never taking a trip alone. I am “older” than you, and I have never gone anywhere alone. I wish, with all of my heart, that I could be with all of you in Denver. I will be in spirit. Good for you..
#37 I believe in the GE anyone – Ind, Dem or Rep – can vote for whomever they choose. In the primaries, Ind. can not vote, only Dems or Reps. I am in PA., maybe it is different in other states..
I did hear today , on CNN, that some Hillary supporters plan to stay home. I read about these surveys, but who are they surveying? They never ask me anything!
I hate to mention this, but every panel anymore has at least one AA on it, and they always agree with BO. Big surprise!! Has anyone else noticed this??
I never see any of these arguments that people talk about. Must be after I go to bed. We should not be arguing about things. All of us have the same goal, don’t we??
Have a good evening my friends. Back to reading.
=^..^=
Later webfoot and researching the best answer for you.
~J
#414 VERITAS09
Thanks for your acknowledgment. I’ve actually been extremely active for months. I’m just new to this blog, that’s all. I have a file of numerous op-ed pieces, letters to the editor, super delegate letters, DNC letters, and so on. Anyway, glad to join the PUMA family, though want to stay focused and objective. Still not sure the home page is clear and user friendly, but from what some posters have said, it’s being worked on.
We’ve got to be dignified and professional in order to maximize our credibility in the public eye and garner mucho support!
How We Each Choose to Vote
Just need to comment (I have done this a few times in the past). The best thing I think (only my opinion) is that we teach each other all of the options for voting and the good news and bad news.
For example
If you choose to write-in a person on a ballot, EACH state has different rules and they will either accept the write-in or the write-in will automatically go to the nominee of the party. It’s ugly but true. That is why it is best to know your state regs.
A vote for McCain is actually taking two votes from *61. But if you stay home and don’t vote, he only loses one vote. What I mean is, if you vote for McCain, *61 loses one vote because you aren’t voting for him and he loses a second vote because you gave it to McCain.
If you stay home then *61 only loses your vote for not voting for him or anyone else.
I believe one of goals is to educate each other as well as others that aren’t PUMAS. It is a benefit to all because they are making an informed decision and may or may not change their mind and we/you feel better because you know they are making a decision knowing all the facts.
You are all so bright so don’t get upset with someone for making the choices they make but instead EDUCATE EDUCATE EDUCATE and this will also be how you help those around in their decisionmaking.
Okay, no more opinions for now. Thanks for listening.
diva2
#412 alohapuma~ Will add in the next revision. Thanks!
Speaking of revisions. The list is growing and I will get it better organized and group users together with their skills. Be patient and thanks for all of your input/ideas!
~J
Just e-mailed Will Bower and asked him if his letter could be shortened. It really is long and by my past experience, the shorter the letter, the more likely it will be read. I am planning to fax the letter to the delegates and 3-4 pages is too much. Although it will be difficult to put all of Obama’s negatives and flip-flops on one page.
This is my last post. Will check back with you in the morning. Good Night Fellow Pumas, Rest Well!
hey all,
catching up — but back at the screen –
Jeremy, my talents are: artistic, tech savvy, research, Photoshop, web design, computers
There are a lot of people that support “O” and they are banking on us staying home. It will be better for them if we stay home.
I can’t stay home. I will vote for McCain and be proud about it. He is not my 1st choice but I will be okay if he gets elected.
Jeremy
Regarding your post on talents.
I would be willing to help.
In anyway with photoshop,photo editing, photography.
Here are links to example of some of the work I do for other sites, hopefully I willb e able ot incorporate this into this great cause.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/HappyIndependenceDay2008.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/BecauseOfYou.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/MemorialDay.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/glassceiling18millionbanner.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/SD%20Banners/Aldabrook.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/peoplespresident.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/CMbanner/ClassOf2008.jpg
I do for work for my own performing arts school which I attend (shown in last link) as well as for Show Dog Kennels and my own personal choices.
I would love to help in any way I can to help spread the word.
If you like to contact me to see further examples or to let me know in what way to contact e-mail is here.
cm269896@yahoo.com
say good night Jane night Jane
Great #428 BillieJo. I need you now. Can you answer this question from webfoot? Input is appreciated. Also, I will add you in the next revision. Thanks!
406 webfoot on 07.05.08 at 8:32 pm
“Jeremy-
I found a website http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/msoffice// that will translate a document into a variety of languages. I found the website through a feature on one of my software programs. Just highlight the document, pick a language, hit translate, and click send. Do you think this feature would be helpful as a “skill” for some of our flyers?”
#418 LANDIPUMA
I agree that referring to Obama by Hussein is probably not the best way to go. I actually cringe when I hear it because it suggests that there’s something wrong with being Muslim. And, while on the subject of names, I doubt many will agree with this, but here goes….I think it’s prudent to refrain from calling Obama or his supporters by “nicknames”, like BOT, etc. I think we should be careful not to have double standards. We hated it when Hillary was objectified and demeaned, so why should we fall into the same patterns? This often happens in movements. We all find a way to rationalize feeling entitled to our own form of disrespect. I think we can make our case on its merits and we needn’t stoop to name calling. Not only does it impress me as childish, but I also think constantly about newcomers to the site and what kind of impression we want to give. I’ve heard so much talk about how Obama’s supporters speak in such disrespectful ways about Hillary and about us, her supporters. So, let’s not let our anger make us feel justified in doing the same. Obama is Obama and his supporters are his supporters. There’s plenty of factual evidence to base our case on without needing to resort to snide references. He can claim to be above the fray, but we can truly be so if we want to be.
I don’t mean to sound preachy. I’ve fallen into the same name calling trap myself many a time. It’s just something I try to stay aware of and thought I’d share my view with the rest of the group.
Just added a great new site to the blogroll. Please check out womenstate if you haven’t already.
http://womenstate.blogspot.com/
If any of you are ready for a new, free ad-on to your browser to help you with your internet research, here is a link: http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/?s=getchunkit
I have nothing to do with the company, they brought it to my attention at UC Berkeley in our research. I have been using it for a couple of weeks. It is cool if you are on a website like this, you can find all the blog items with your name on them, for example. Jeremy, you could use it to search for your name every time you want to. Like I update your list.
Like I said, I am not working for the company or have any connection to them. It is a good tool if your interested. There is a little video on this link to explain how it works. It’s easy and it can go deeper in research if you look more into the site.
434 Lets Get It Started on 07.05.08 at 8:55 pm
Thanks. Awesome credit! Will add you to the revisions. Thanks again for your help!
~J
Anna7000 — agreed on the Hussein bit. Please don’t refer to Barack Obama by his middle name — it makes it sound like we think there’s something wrong with being Muslim, or worse — that he’s in some way tied to terrorism. it’s not fair or true, and it makes us look bad.
#437 Anna7000
Thank you. Your comments are very appropriate.
# 434 Lets Get It Started
Not that my votes counts for too much of anything, but I checked out your work and (WOW) you’re good.
#359 BillieJo,
Have you ever had any direct interaction with naturalized citizens of this country who had to flee their native land (Rusia, Cuba, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.) due to political persecution they suffered because they refused to embrace dictatorships propelled by marxism and Liberation Theology?! I am one of those people, and I would much rather have McCain lead us any day than Barack Castro! I know what is like to be deprived from your basic liberties. What we are going thru in America right now as difficult as it is, is nothing compared to what I and many others had to go thru for 12 long years of repression in my native land! Barack Hussein Obama embodies EVERYTHING I stand against. This man has an agenda to destroy America as we know it and he will carry it out unless enough of us care to stop him. I know that Row v Wade and equal pay are important issues, but believe me they will seem small to you if this man is elected president. If you think he controls the media now, just wait until he is president and you will not believe your eyes. Forums like this one will not be allowed to exist, our children’s views will be shaped by what “the movement” says is important and not by what you or I teach them.
This is not about the Democratic or the Republican parties Billiejo, It’s about our country and about our own survival as a free nation. My 2 cents.
Regarding the birth certificate: I’m sure the government has investigated. If anything is amiss it would be the perfect October suprise. Has there ever been a nominee replaced after a convention?
#430 LADYHAWKE RE: LENGTH OF LETTERS
I agree with you completely. In our eagerness to squeeze in every point in a letter, we probably shoot ourselves in the foot because it will never be read because it’s too long. The recommendation for letters like this is no more than one page. What’s the point of writing a long treatise with every detail if the reader never reads it? Better to edit and hone and select the most important points. OR, another option is to have a page/flier that’s just about flip-flops that one can send as a adendum to a letter that they refer to in the letter, where they would make a broad reference to the issue of flip-flopping.
Ironically, I’m rambling on and on, but I’ve found that a lot of what is on a many grassroots sites is waaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooo loooooooooong. Think bullet points not dissertation!
#438 Great Murphy. Our own Amarissa has made contributions there.
drgav # 337:
I am with you, we do not have to call him H because we are falling on the enemy’s trap. They will call us racists, etc. Besides, I am not anti muslim, look what he did to those women at the rally! I am only anti-OBAMA
To #418 LandiPUMA
Hello LandiPUMA. Your point is well taken — I have just gotten used to calling him Hussein, hence my repetitive use of that name to refer to him. It is his name after all. If people get offended by that, then I must say that that is their problem. They would be the ones putting meaning to it, when really, I am just using one of his legal names.
I would venture to say that this would be very similar to one saying that BHO is black. He is, but for some reason, people have a problem when a fact like that gets pointed out. But BHO supporters never had a problem calling Hillary “moody,” a “b**ch,” or a “witch.”
Again, with all due respect, I am tired of being an American in America and having to censor myself all the time. We have become so caught up with always wanting to be politically correct. I think that is not freedom. I will say whatever I want, whenever I want, and people can interpret whatever I say however they want — they are entitled to doing that like I am entitled to speaking out my mind.
I met with a local meetup group in Oakland California today.
We are getting organized to help plan for Denver, and for marches within our state to coordinate with other major cities across the country.
We had people attend from San Jose, San Francisco and San Ramon as well as Oakland. The organizer is also planning a conference call with Southern Ca.
If you are in the state, please go to this site and join us.
http://hrclinton.meetup.com/129/
It was a great time brainstorming and sharing ideas.
I even met the famous Normita.
Please join us if you are in Calif. to ensure our state organizes a HUGE number of participants.
Pelosi’s favoritism of *61
#415 ladyhawke You are absolutely right AND she is a liar. Said all along she would vote the same as her constituents and she didn’t. Funny you could “see” she was lying just by watching her gestures and face. AND she lied when she said she wasn’t aware of all the terrible and sexist things that had been said about Senator Clinton during the campaign. Pelosi received hundreds, maybe thousands of letters complaining specifically about just this.
#443 Stardust
Thank you for the nice comments
I was actually looking forward to some way of continueing my pro-Hillary banners in a way to help PUMA.
Hopefuly this will keep me occupied, thanks!
#449 drgav RE: NAME
I think the argument you’re making is a rationalization. We don’t traditionally call someone by their middle name unless they’ve elected to use their middle name as their primary name. So, by chosing to call Obama by his middle name, it appears that you’re making a specific choice which I would assume has a point. Do you normally call your friends by their middle names, or is this something you do just in Obama’s case? And, as Murphy pointed out which is not a small issue: The last thing we want to invite are accusations of being racist. If there’s no foundation for it, then we can defend ourselves. But if there is evidence of it, then it diminishes our movement and us all. Please reconsider. This isn’t about being politically correct. It’s about something specific you’re doing that I doubt you do with other people, which renders your motives suspicious.
Jeremy –
Great #428 BillieJo. I need you now. Can you answer this question from webfoot? Input is appreciated. Also, I will add you in the next revision. Thanks!
The link that was sent did not come up. There are websites that will translate, word for word. Unfortunately, most of them do not correct differences in grammar or the structure of language. If you are looking for translators in getting the word out, you might just ask PUMAs of their bi-lingual abilities.
Hi, Murphy,
and whoever else is coordinating actions:
I am in NYC. I would like to keep up with any PUMA activities that may be planned regarding the upcoming joint stomach-turners — I mean fundraisers — next week with HRC and Junior. Can someone please keep me in the loop privately via email?
I haven’t had any time to read the comments here for the past few days, and I won’t be able to keep up that way next week either. If you want to share my email address with other NYC area PUMAs, please do so. I have already sent an email to the Northeast PUMA Pac coordinator.
Thanks. I hope we can do something here in NYC next week.
NYCgirl
#444 Wow Roxy in cali
Its stories like yours that really emphasize how diverse we really are here. It must have been terrible to live through that once, but to be presented with the fear of going through it again (Well) it’s just not acceptable – and that just why we’re fighting.
Awesome work Lets Get Started~ I got a chance to look at all of them. Beautiful! The glass ceiling is powerful.
~J
Anna7000 #444, In Puma PAC parlance, that’s Precise, Concise, and Brief, or PCB for short.
#449 greenfun
Thank you for the California group. Wish I had known about it today, I live in Walnut Creek and didn’t know if there were any PUMAs near by. Hope to meet you some day.
#453 BillieJo~Thanks for your reply. We have a translator on our list. Those programs are great tools, but will usually not “override” existing documents.
OK I have made it this far:
# 256 turndownobama, thanks for your support
# 282 Battle for Hill, I am so sorry to hear of your loss, bless you and yours.
# 283 Mountain Song, thank you, I do appreciate your kind words.
# 318 NLee, as usual brilliant work!
Back to reading the posts, more later
One Love
#453
You need bi-langual people?
Well in what language?
I’m Latino and I can help to translate in spanish if that is needed.
And yes I know what you mean, the free translator will only translate word for word. When you say things in the spanish language certain words are placed differently in a sentence than they would in english.
Any Minnesota Pumas out there? Friendly Minnesota lurkers??
Please send me an email at murphy@pumapac.org
thanks!
#441 murphy
Thank you Murphy for linking my blog to your site! I am the creator of Women State and my purpose for this blog was to make it a place to inform, spread PUMA news and any other news regarding what is good for Hillary. I sometimes post my thoughts and my creations in the way of videos or graphics. It is really, really, very touching for me that you have added me to the PUMAS list. I am a proud member and a proud supporter of Hillary Clinton. I will do everything in my power to let others know how she was cheated out of this primary. The blog is also against sexism and mysogyny as was so clearly demonstrated during this 2008 Democratic Primary. thanks again!
Amarissa
Anna7000
I am on the justsayno site and I don’t see a list, also I don’t like the layout. It’s too cluttered. Can you tell me where I’d find the list?
Fred: What an awesome idea!! Skype would be a wonderful way for us to communicate regarding things like regional details/trip to denver details that we don’t want the whole world to see. You can conference call everyone who wants to be a part of it.
It would definitely help with the state/local organization that we are desperately waiting for.
I’ll sign up with my PUMA name tonight!
In regards to voting, I would like to offer my perspective as merely something to consider, but with the disclaimer that I certainly understand each individual’s view on this issue — and in keeping with the values of this group to respect the diversity of opinion.
That being said, this is my personal view on the topic. Whether we like it or not, regardless of the great qualities of any third party candidates — the reality is that the true chance for electing a President ultimately goes to either the Democratic or Republican candidate. So again, like it or not, my only true choice is the Dem. or Rep. candidate offered on the ballot. Since I believe in my heart of hearts that Obama would be a disaster for this country and for our constitutional rights that we’ve come to take for granted, my only choice is McCain. And I honestly believe that while I do not agree with McCain’s policies, he is a man of integrity and the checks and balances of this great country will not only remain in tact under his rule — but they will also serve to keep McCain in check for some of the policies I don’t always agree with.
Not voting is not an option. Confucius was a brilliant philosopher (who many are not familiar with — but his philosophy is truly beautiful). Confucius believes that life is a series of events. Each event has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Events may overlap each other as we move through life but they all have one thing in common. They require an action from us. A choice. His philosophy expounds from this basic premise to then teach how choices have intrinsic value and to teach how to choose well. The event will always be lacking something if we fail to make a choice or even choose poorly. We must always be active and strive to choose well. Not voting — or inaction — is a choice too, but I feel it is a poor choice.
Thirdly, I’ve been seeing a lot of material about voter fraud. You can bet your ass Obama has already been putting together a plan for voter fraud in the GE. But if the voters get out and vote McCain in by a landslide, this reduces the ability to perform voter fraud without being detected. The GE results goal need to go beyond close, it needs to be a landslide. We all have the power of choice which could make this happen if we decide to chose to work towards this goal.
Again, I’m not trying to advocate everyone adopt this as their own goal. I will always fight for your right to be diverse in your thought process and to implement the plan that works for you and meets your comfort level. I’m just saying this is my train of thought and like others in this blog — I hope I haven’t stepped on anyone’s toes in voicing it.
I believe in this philosophy — therefore, not voting is to let the event pass without fulfilling our obligation to provide that action that is needed from us.
#81 sandipuma on 07.05.08 at 3:08 pm
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Sandi Rodham Puma! Just because no one is responding does not mean that no one is reading your posts! And this post proves it.
Amarissa, no thanks necessary. Your site is quite excellent — the content, the layout, the links.
Let’s stay United! we’re all working together!
Re: obama birth certificate
OK, in most states you can’t just get someones birth certificate. You have to show that you are entitled to get that certificate. Unless that person is deceased. Then it is much easier. However, I can look at one of my databases for an index of people born in a certain state in a certain year. For example I can put in my name and it comes up on the index for my state. I put in Barack’s name and nothing came up. That could mean several things but most likely that state doesn’t have an index in the database. So I went online to find a list of people born in Hawaii. I found Kelly Palzis who was born in 1962 and married John Travolta. I put her name in and it didn’t come up either. So apparently Hawaii doesn’t have its index on-line.
#466 Mzebest,
AMEN!
#458 billiejo
Awesome! I think there will be weekly meetings at this point. I definitely look forward to meeting you and all the Pumas in the area.
JEREMY
Can we make a list of folks that are willing to hand out flyers ? This is not an easy job and we need a LOT of volunteers in every state. A few wonderful people listed below have said they would – lets try to get a long list.
I feel this is an important way to get our site out. Some time soon, I would like to send them some flyers so they don’t have to print them .
MsBinMD
DancesWithPumas
Hotsky
sheila7
Mary Beth613
For anyone who enjoys reading about BO’s flip flops and how it is benefiting McCain:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1041130,CST-NWS-obama05.article
Hill Rodham Mania
#464 TRISH FROM CANADA RE: SD LIST
Ugh. I can’t find where I found it. It’s sitting here right in front of me (took forever to print out – 25 pages). Argh! That’s what frustrates me about many sites. Not user friendly enough and now I can’t find where I found it. I thought, maybe I’m misremembering and checked this PUMA site, but didn’t see it. Checked a few others I have book marked, but didn’t see it. This is so frustrating. I can continue to search. Or, I’m happy to copy and send the list to someone via snail mail. I’m so sorry. I’ll keep trying to back track as to where I found it.
Can we please make this site more user friendly while we’re at it???? No need to reinvent the wheel. I thought Hillary’s site worked very well. The bar across the top had clear options with more specific choices that opened up underneath when you put the cursor on it. Let’s not get too fancy, too subtle with the font size, type or color. Down and dirty would work great: “Join”, “Take Action”, “Contribute”, “Blog”, etc.
When are PUMAs planning on arriving in Denver…?
#461 Lets Get Started~ I will add that info to your profile. Thanks for the update.
Other PUMAs who want to be added to our Talent Growl,
send the information to
jeremy71985@hotmail.com Make sure you have your user name in the body of the text. No addresses will be shared. I will be working on revisions soon. Thanks!
~J
#470 Roxy in cali
Thanks Roxy — glad to know I didn’t offend.
greenfun, looking forward to it. How many people were there, it was in Danville? I thought there were tons of Republicans in our area.
I want to state for the record, Amanda, that I am not a Republican but until quite recently was a Democrat and had always been a Democrat.
#472
Thats a great idea, I live in Las Vegas,NV
A city that Hillary won overwhelmingly against Obama even with him having the endorsments of some strong Unions so this city is full of Hillary people. Add me to the list.
-Chris
#458 BillieJo
Go out and create some PUMAs in your area. They’re already out there, they just don’t know they’re PUMAs yet. Help them emerge from their isolation. ; )
Roxy in Cali-
THANKS for your post. It says first and foremost that we are not over-reacting in our belief that BO MUST be stopped before he destroys our freedoms in this county. You’ve been through this before so you recognize the signs. I’d like to pass you’re thoughts along to some friends who have accused me of “being too worried” about this guy.
My birth cert theory.
I would hope that when you fill in the paperwork to run for president, you would have to show a valid b/c , besides other things. I would also like to think you would have to pass a stringent security check. So, I am beginning to wonder if the b/c is a red herring, to keep many from looking into other things.
#472 Fred~ I have many of these on the list, but I can start a seperate document for those wishing to hand out flyers. I will put it on the list. Thanks!
~J
#474 Anna7000 I agree. Murphy, any way that this site can be made to be a little more user friendly? I know this is asking a lot, since you were so kind to put up the site in the first place as a busy mother. It is so difficult as the daily posts get so long, to reply to someone and then find your place. We are getting too big for our britches.
#127 ABinNY on 07.05.08 at 3:34 pm PUMAs, go get your attitude here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPxGmTGarM&feature=related
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HOLY CARP! That is one wild kitty! LOL
#483 MY b/c THEORY
I think you a probably right.
#136 pa dem
“Does anyone know *where* in NY these Unity events are taking place”
Check obama’s official site for locations and points of contact. Also, check NY craigslist.
#483 Funny you mention this… I’ve been wondering if they’re even legally married. Is she allowed to legally be the first lady if they’re not?
TALENT GROWL
The idea of a list of PUMA’s with names, contact info and talents is great. There should be a link on the home page that invites members to do this, instead of having to wade through hundreds of posts to find, by chance, Jeremy’s e-mail. There’s some stuff buried in these posts that should be front and center.
#484 BILLIE JO: OUTGROWING OUR BRITCHES!
#484 BILLIE JO: OUTGROWING OUR BRITCHES!
#472 Fred
I do that almost every day. Usually place them on cars that have made the mistake of parking next to me
#473 Anna7000
Can you send what you have to Trish738@yahoo.com please
Hi Pumas!
I’m anxious to meet local also–no word from Virginia area on my e-mail…Maybe out of town? I’m printing flyers, PUMA money-whatever I can find & hope to hit the streets soon in Va.–Awaiting fellow Pumas in the area. Ready to go in Va. Beach! Murphy you are a godsend! Thanks to all of you Pumas for support!
Lookin forward to a movie!
#480 DancesWithPumas Believe me I am trying, almost get stoned at work with all the *61 supporters at Cal. Walnut Creek has fewer democrats. I am sick of being thought of as a bitter white woman. Had plenty of insults over the past few months.
#484 BILLIE JO: OUTGROWING OUR BRITCHES!
Sorry, I hit the wrong key and posted before I was done. Anyway, your comment reminded me: I received an e-mail several days ago saying that PUMA had grown to the point of organizing on a regional/state level. I referred to the list to see which region I was in and sent an e-mail to the prescribed person but haven’t heard a word. Anyone know what’s going on with this level of (re) organizing?
Lady Hawkke, Amarissa, Anna7000
I also did the LobbyDelegates the last two days and hand hundreds bounce back because they have deleted their addys – sent the information to Trish for updates so that there is not a big waste of time sending them emails – however http://www.demconwatch.com as of June 6th I believe – show all the Superdelegates that have switched from Hillary to the no named one – a lot from New York – they still show Nancy as undecided which would make sense – she riled all the others up to make up their minds right away and she did nothing – oh forgot she is up for relection again.
Check demonconwatch
p.s. Special thanks to Maryland Puma for all her help!
#475 Jeremy
I musta missed something. What is the “talent growl”?
ATTENTION NEW PUMAS
If you are still new to the P.U.M.A. PAC experience, please visit the PAC’s Action Center and get a feel for how we do business. There are many resources there to get you started with historical and political history documents, our favotite Youttube video links, a collection of our Daily Growls, letters, post cards, flyers, links, super delegate contacts, media contacts, and so many other resources. A great place to spend some time and get familiar so when you see an idea posted on the blog here, you’ll know where to go to get the resources to carry it out.
To visit the PP Action Center:
http://pumapacusa.org
Any Twin City area Pumas out there?
Drop me a line at murphy@pumapac.org!
Anna7000 #496, yes we ARE organizing at the state/regional level. working out some kinks in our system. Please email me anytime about getting in touch with nearby Pumas for action.
Thanks!
#496 Anna7000 I responded to the same email and wondered what was going to happen…nothing so far.
#496 Anna7000 – REGIONAL GROUPS
“I referred to the list to see which region I was in and sent an e-mail to the prescribed person but haven’t heard a word. Anyone know what’s going on with this level of (re) organizing?”
I sent the email to sign up earlier this week or late last week, haven’t heard anything either.
Dances w/PUMAs: Thanks
We figured out that the events were taking place in NYC at the Grand Hyatt and the Hilton and Towers.
I registered on Skype as “padempuma”. If anyone local to PA/NY wants to talk regional activities, we can set up a time for a conference call or something.
Murphy, any idea how the list of PUMAs going to Denver is going? I am still debating if I can afford the housing, so how much time do we have to think about it? You rock MURPHY!
#497 Goalucard4Hill on 07.05.08 at 9:37 pm
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I believe that Nancy Pelosi has to stay publically uncommitted until the Convention because she’s the Chair of the Convention.
#489 Anna7000 on 07.05.08 at 9:33 pm
TALENT GROWL
I agree Anna. Contrary to assumptions, I am not on here 24/7. I would hate to leave someone out. What’s your take Murphy? I have the list current as of now and will be making the revisions posted later.
As of today I am 100% committed to Denver in August.
I was at 95% yesterday, and 90% the day before.
Are there any members of the DNC’s Women’s Leadership Forum here? If so, would you post the names of the current officers. Not available online as far as I can see.
Please advise…
Thanks
LadyHawkee, Amarissa and Anna 7000 -
Sorry my computer is giving me fits and give up on it – it shut down before I could give you the actual link for SD’s that switched overhttp://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
#481 Notfollowing,
You’re welcome. We have every reason to be worried.
JEREMY RE LISTS
Is the Talent List the same as teh Skills list or is it a separate list?
#499 DancesWithPumas on 07.05.08 at 9:37 pm
I musta missed something. What is the “talent growl”?
DancesWithPumas~I gave the list that name. Don’t want to confuse it with listings on the action site. That is the name I gave it for those wanting to be part of the list skills or talents that our PUMAs would like to share or provide.
Jeremy, thank you! Please forward the list to me at murphy@pumapac.org as soon as it is ready. Please also cc marylandpuma@gmail.com
On the” grieving of the Clintonian Democrats.”
Here is another example of CNN use of perfectly scientifical analysis on grief and tainted it with pseudo analytical bias of propagandist journalism. Bill Schneider overdid the Kool aid on the 4th and turned into DR PHIL. A piece of advice to CNN (Completly Nuts Network)get some new analysts, new journalists because they are going to be grieving when the pumas send OB packing back to Chicago despite CNN constant desinformation and propagandist agenda.
Second advice : come and visit us on our blogs so they can report something of value such as : under Murphy’s guidance we have united, gathered strengh and have become the most determined, resolved, opinionated , smart, willing, able ,bunch a democracy can produce in the least amount of time. As pumas we are committed to action, positivity, reforms, progress, civil rights, fairness, getting the right leader into the White House, respect of the constitution and the laws of the USA.
We all have been inspired by the work of Hillary Clinton and understand that it is a beginning not the end, a movement is born, so not only we are not grieving, but we are celebrating the birth of a great organization. The PUMAS!!!!!
#500PA4HILL08
Thanks for the post. But, no newcomer should have to stummble upon the 500th post in this particular blog to find out how to get the very valuable info you have that you’re referring to in your post! Gotta have this stuff in an obvious place on the home page.
#489 Anna7000
“The idea of a list of PUMA’s with names, contact info and talents is great. There should be a link on the home page that invites members to do this, instead of having to wade through hundreds of posts to find, by chance, Jeremy’s e-mail. There’s some stuff buried in these posts that should be front and center.”
Good idea! And, thank you for volunteering to cull the wheat from the chaff. ; )
What’s the story with *61 birth certificate. My guess is that maybe if he wasn’t born in the US he would not be able to be Prez?
It is the same #512~ I gave it that name to help me keep the list organized. Maybe I can call it the PUMA Skills Directory? Suggestions?
PUMA help needed
Declaratiom of Objections was beilliant. If you agree then help is needed to get it the attention it deserves
It only has 21 diggs after 2 days! We need 50 diggs to be on the “hot news” on the front page, 150 would make it the top story.
It’ll only take a second to sign up. DIGG IT!
http://digg.com/politics/PUMA_s_Decl…_of_Objections
#514 Murphy~ Will do, and thanks for all you do! It is appreciated…now even more!
#520 that link isn’t working
To: Fellow PUMA Writers
From: jbjd
Subject: Writing to be Read
Date: 5 July 2008
In response to your several requests for help, I came up with these general recommendations for drafting letters to Super Delegates and others to maximize the chances that these people will read your correspondence.
In the opening paragraph 1) identify yourself; 2) state the purpose of your communication; and 3) list the major points that will follow. Then, expand upon these points in the order in which they are listed.
1) Identify yourself.
Tell the reader who you are and, where applicable, what group or organization you represent. Anonymity breeds contempt; assume that the reader who cannot tell who you are up front is not interested in anything you have to say. In other words, she will discard your tome without reading it.
2) State the purpose of your communication.
For example, given the reader’s previously publicized stance on an issue, are you trying to change her mind? Are you forwarding facts of which you think she was previously unaware? Are you a constituent who is registering a voting preference? Assume the addressee receives thousands of pieces of correspondence. Entreaties to her better nature notwithstanding, she will not ‘get the point’ unless you get to the point. Tell her what you want. This evidences both your respect for her position and an appreciation of her time constraints.
3) List the major points that will follow. Then, expand upon these points in the order in which they are listed.
People receive and process information differently. Presenting a clear roadmap for your reader to follow not only makes digesting your correspondence easier for her but also makes writing easier for you.
Finally, check spelling and grammar. (Do not rely solely on pre-packaged programs to catch your mistakes. For example, MS Word 2008 has a grammar check that flags prepositional phrases such as ‘with him and me’ as incorrect, wrongly substituting the objective pronoun “me” with the nominative pronoun “I.”) Anticipate that your reader may never get to your substance if she cannot get past your style.
PUMA SKILLS DIRECTORY
Jeremy, I love this name. It’s clear and straight forward. It says what it is. The only drawback would be that it suggests an existing directory. Where would a newcomer go to offer/ad their list of skills? Perhaps it could be called SKILLS DIRECTORY. When you click on it there could be two choices: 1) Tell us your skills, 2) Directory contact list (which would, of course, not list stuff that should be kept private.) Or, like many non-profits do, you could have a “Wish List” except instead of stuff, the wish list would list needed skills. OR, you could have something that says “We need you! Tell us your talents/skills”. I’m not sure. Seems you might need to seperate inviting newcomers to identify their skills from those who are already part of the system and up and running. Or, maybe not. I’ll keep thinking about it.
Ok that’s it!!!
I’m tired of being nice.
OBAMA – WHERE’S THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????!!!!!!!!!
#406… Superdelegates… are they being bought by the Obama campaign… please see the videos at 527anamericanvoice to see the videos produced showing “donations” to various superdelegates in various states .. there are many of them
MURPHY TAKE NOTE… IF YOU ARE THERE… OBAMA “DONATING” TO SUPERDELEGATES?
#518 Billie Jo BIRTH CERTIFICATE
“What’s the story with *61 birth certificate. My guess is that maybe if he wasn’t born in the US he would not be able to be Prez?”
The statutes are more complicated than where someone was born.
As a start, go here: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Scroll down or search for the birth cert articles, there are also plenty of links there for more info re this issue.
#523 jbjd: LETTER WRITING TIPS
Great tips. I would add: Keep the letter to no more than one page (and not by using an 8 point font!).
Murphy
Daily thank you for everything that you do especially taking time away from those little ones of yours. In fact, please thank them for us and give them lots of PUMA hugs. They must be “treasures” for you when things get tough.:-)
To all PUMAs:
Emily’s List called me today to ask for donations to their cause to get women elected. I listened to their “talk” and then explained that I give to the women Senators in our state individually, not through a PAC or organization. I also explained that I probably will keep doing that more as time goes on because of the issues surrounding the primary. The woman listened to me for 15 minutes and was interested in the PUMA factor. She was in Virginia, about my age, and wanted to know more. I was careful not to strike out at Emily’s List or Ellen, but that right now I just couldn’t support women who were following the DNC and O like sheep including my own governor. I got the word out that I’m confortable at blog.pumapac.org and that we are not angry loosers of children ready to take our suckers and run with them. I closed the call with a “thank you” for listening and keep up their work for women.
I’m still working on sending the resolutions from yesterday to all the state delegates to the national convention. I’ve only be able to find a hit and miss list of all the 97 choosen, but I’ll keep working.
I also sent the same full copy of the Annabelle letter, objectives and resolutions to our local democrats who have been difficult at best.
By the way, I really enjoyed the blog last night. Such humor and fun. on the rocks gave me some good information and firebelle is the best. She won the Halligan contest. Many others tried. Thanks to all of you and WELCOME to all the new voices today.
If anyone wants to see a fabulous video of Obama during a press conference after he won his Senate seat, where he was asked whether he would run for President, and he clearly stated that he would not because 1) it would require starting his campaign at that very moment, and 2) he believed that a person shouldn’t apply for a job they’re not qualified for and that he doesn’t have the experience, go to:
American Thinker web site (beware, it’s VERY conservative!)
Click on “Archives”
Click on “June 2008″ in the Blog column
Scroll down to “Obama on why he shouldn’t have run for President”. The video is embedded in the article and is like a ready-to-go advertisement if it just had a bit of provocative text inserted at the beginning and the end.
And on that note, I bit all of my fellow PUMA’s good night!
There have been some distractions and drama on the blog today and I just thought I’d try to post a reminder of why we’re all here – and all so committed to our cause. good nite all…(hope this works – I can cut and paste some stuff, but not everything always works)…
SIMPLY THE BEST: In case you needed reminding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCG5Tp4ZwZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaEAdk7sew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaEAdk7sew
these are the two on that site… on youtube I spoke of before
520 2 cents DECLARATION OF OBJECTIONS
“PUMA help needed
Declaratiom of Objections was beilliant. If you agree then help is needed to get it the attention it deserves
It only has 21 diggs after 2 days! We need 50 diggs to be on the “hot news” on the front page, 150 would make it the top story. It’ll only take a second to sign up. DIGG IT!
http://digg.com/politics/PUMA_s_Decl…_of_Objections”
Abbreviations do not work in links:
HERE’S THE FULL LINK:
http://digg.com/politics/PUMA_s_Declaration_of_Objections
JEREMY SKILLS DIRECTORY
Yes, call it ‘the skills directory’, “talent” is subjective.
Just saw this in Clinton Democrats blog:
“Response received from “letter to Dean”
Posted on July 5th, 2008 by rosebud113
I recently sent a copy of the open letter that was sent to Howard Dean regarding being disenfranchised by the DNC decision regarding Florida (and Michigan) to about 150 DNC delegates.
This is the response from Steven J. Ybarra JD of California: (pasted below)
good for you, when the fascists come in the middle of the night to take you to a
concentration camp. remember how you voted.
take me off your whiner list.
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Siempre Adelante
/s/Steve
Steven J. Ybarra JD
Chair Voting Rights Committee
DNC Hispanic Caucus
PO Box 367
Sacramento, Ca 95812
916-442-7211″
HAHAHAHAHA!
I’m so bored…this is what happens when it’s just me, my computer, and a bag of candy 
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/muchroomman/uncle-sam-1.jpg
NObama…NOvember…NO joke
Love this for us…….. we love this country…… and wow this is powerful!!! Another reason to get moving for America… this is bigger than all the problems we might be experiencing due to personality issues… I am proud to know all of You Americans!!!
http://sagebrushpatriot.com/america.htm
ONE MORE QUOTE FOR THE EVENING…
“When the leadership is right, and the time is right, the people can always be counted upon to follow-to the end at all costs.”
Harold J. Seymour -
Let’s believe in Harold’s message.
Good evening Pumas, I did a little checking on the last 2 primary races, I was going to ask if someone knew but thought I’d look it up myself. Anyway 2004 Kerry won 46 states a total of 2573.5 pledged delegates, the number 1 issue for voters was Economy, health care, Iraq, education in that order. Kerry raised a whopping 7 million, Edwards raised more but….okay now the 2000 primary Gore won all 50 states by large margins, he raised 10 million and collected 3432 pledged delegates. Now this is a question I’ve had for a while I only checked those two but, as you can see they got won their delegates, in fact in Kerry’s case the DNC and other opponents met before they declared him the presumtive nominee 4 months prior to the convention. This is what I’m pissed off at, how dare they just try and brush the competition away and expect to get away with it…..anyway I’m 99% sure this information is correct, if someone knows better or earlier primaries please let us know. FYI
#535 Amarissa
Whoa. The mentality. Nothing like minimizing the actual concentration camps experience.
This guy sounds like a whacked out juvenile punk.
I think I’m going to drop him a line.
#465 MZEBEST
GREAT POST!!! Totally agree with you!!!
I dont know if this has been posted, but go to No Quarter and watch this video, then download movie for free…..
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Halligan — always great to see you here! thanks as always.
Amarissa #535, holy smokes! reading that was like a punch in the stomach.
DancesWithPumas — a general thank you for your ever-present wisdom.
Anna7000 — you have some great ideas. Perhaps you could email them to me at murphy@pumapac.org
The revised list of PUMA Skills has been sent to Murphy. All updates are through 9:25 pm CDT and were received by email request. Thanks!
Digg the Declaration! http://digg.com/politics/PUMA_s_Declaration_of_Objections
We’re trying to get just a couple hundred diggs to make it hit the front page, from where it may get media attention. Please go digg it now! Thanks!
#542 drgav
Thank you.
Thanks Dances for the link on the birth certificate. I have seen this before but if it is a fake, why isn’t the Republican party going on attack with this? It is bad enough that the media gave Obama a free pass, but so far, it has been an almost free pass by the Repub this time around too. Do the repubs really think our girl has a chance at the convention? I would think they would send out the attack dogs just before the convention to make *61 look like a fool and crook.
So nice to see Murphy posting again today. Sorry I lurked so long on here…
534 DancesWithPumas on 07.05.08 at 10:11 pm JEREMY SKILLS DIRECTORY
Yes, call it ‘the skills directory’, “talent” is subjective.
The listing name is in the hands of our Murphy.
524 Anna7000 on 07.05.08 at 9:57 pm
PUMA SKILLS DIRECTORY
Thanks for your input Anna. You have been added and the list has been passed on to Murphy.
Been a good day. Got us one new puma (waving at Cel) and four people who never heard of PUMA will look at the site.
Keep feeding the PUMAS.
#535
Is this the same Steven Ybarra who wrote this??
“I am opposed to the primary caucus system. They are by their very nature unfair to working class people and discriminatory. This is why they were set up in the first place. One of the questions that I constantly ask is why is it that 200,000 white folks in Iowa get to choose my presidential nominee? ”
http://www.mexicoautotravel.com/HVC/Columnist/sybarra/032508Steven_Ybarra.htm
I remember reading a quote when I was a teen, I think it was from an anarchist but, for life of me I cant remember the mans name or find it on the web. It went
” I despise you and your false propped authority. Hang me for it!!”.
Does anyone know the quote?
Good evening all. I set up a booth today at a flea market in Crosslake, MN. During slow times I engaged other vendors regarding this DNC enduced mess. The guy set up next to me went ballistic when I engaged him. He was beet red. After a long rant he referred to Obama as the anti-Christ. At first I was amused but then I realized how really pathetic it is that we are saddled with jug ears. Incidentally I didn’t find one vendor who will be voting for him. It is truly sad that Minnesota is a caucus state. Hillary would have won a primary here going away.
On another note Colonel Buck Robely, my brother-in-law started a blog on the following site two days ago.
http://blogs.pineandlakes.com/node/98
A number of you posted there and thanks.
I’m with the rest of the curious. Can we get any feedback on the massive Independence Day donation blitz? I’d love to see the totale for say 7/3/08-7/5/08. (Figure gotta give a day each way)
Also…what are the PUMA member numbers? Surely there’s some count that’s kept up to date?
I believe these two pieces of information are HUGE talking points indicating the on-going, organized and legitimate efforts of American citizens who REFUSE the public manipulation and will not have their voices and votes subjugated.
Whats this about a movie about “o”?
#20 Sandipuma.
(waving at sandi)
470 greenfun
Don’t forget to “flyer” the Monclair Women’s Club in Monclair(e?) and the SFO Women’s Bldg. Also the Women’s Cancer Resource Center in Berkeley…
Maybe all the 12-Step programs (lots of recovering 60s radicals), Berkeley Community College, KPFA on Shattuck, Mama Bears Bookstore, Moe’s, etc.
Sheesh… now I’m feeling homesick.
#554 Louis Ling
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/45/
#556 Kerri on 07.05.08 at 10:48 pm
These information is so important to the Obama, and the DNC. These is information that can be used to PUMA’s disadvantage.
DMurphy should keep these information to herself!
#556 Kerri. I am with you it would be real encouraging to see some of the results of our efforts (ie) The flowers we sent to Hillary and the 4th of july contributions to help pay her debt down.
Here is the link to the event happening next week in NYC with Hillary and Junior. This is on Junior’s website:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/organizing/447bx
Can we make sure the Just Say No Deal coalition knows about this fundraiser? There may be NYC PUMAs who want to make their presence felt there in some way.
NYCgirl
Need I remind everyone here; leave this cocoon, go into action to get more members and or let more people know about PUMA, become the butterfly that you are!
#559 Thanks muchado. Was driving me nuts.
After Hillary’s “concession speech” last month, I turned off the TV and turned on the radio. I tuned in to a college station that plays alternative rock music. Right then they started to play a song by Jeff Buckley called “Last Goodbye”. The lyrics reminded me of Hillary’s “farewell” speech that I had just heard. Now, I can’t hear that song without thinking of Hillary! If you know that song, you know what I mean!
NYCgirl
goandersen, you here?
I have sent the “I own my vote petition to everyone on my primary email list. Donated for the retirement of her debt!!… Talk to everyone I know… anyone from PA so I can know I am not alone in this state?
I will be writing Murphy about this.. Thank you all for being here!
#548 BillieJo Birth Cert
I can’t answer your questions.
Personally, I prefer not to immerse myself in the speculation and minutia regarding certain issues, especially when I know that PUMAs from other credible sites are on top of it and doing a better job than I ever could.
Great pic 527…… sent it off to my primary email list
#563 william DenverCO
Yes, you need to remind us to leave this comfortable place and go do some unpleasant stuff – like talking to people, leaving flyers at places you go, handing flyers (PUMA called ZEE please encourage not discourage. If you have knowledge of right ways and wrong ways, do share but don’t be critical. We are all trying. Some of us are not experienced as you. So come and show us what you know)
We need to be kicked out of the “house” sometimes -
OK, I have only read through post #146 for now, but I have a thought.
I have been thinking about this today, and Anna7000 posting about being new and unclear prompts me to share my idea.
I wonder if it may make sense to promote our ACTION SITE to new member prospects, rather than this blog??? IE: on our flyers, use that address to get people up to speed on who we are, what they can jump in and start doing, etc. Put an obvious link from there to here that says something like “to read daily goals, stories, links, etc. please visit and join in the conversation at our PUMA blog!”
Anyway, that was my thought. Just my .02. The action center is growing and becoming so full of info, and has our mission statement front and center. I wonder if some are missing it altogether?
Any thoughts?
#53 DanceswithPumas…. I agree completely. One person has posted on at least four different threads that she/he never receives a reply.
One evening thread I read dozens of people were posting her about her health conditions. Guess that wasn’t enough..
The purpose of this organization is not for people to feel important, but to keep in mind why we are here.
We are here to right the wrong done to Hillary. We want her name listed as a nominee at the convention, and delegates to be able to vote their conscience.
If that doesn’t happen, we must see to it that BO does not win the election. He needs to lose by a landslide. That will show the DNC that we will not have our votes overlooked.
KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE PRIZE…
Goodnight PUMA PALS
“Fireside Chat”
The day was coming to an end, and PUMAS from all over the country and some from other countries in the world, came together by the large blazing campfire. An ENORMOUS gathering of excited PUMAS gathered together in UNITY. Their numbers were growing as word spread across the country and the world.. They snuggled close together and listened with pride and contentment, some purrrrrring peacefully to themselves.
“PUMAS, I am very proud of you!” “The 4th of July is a special day for our PUMAPAC.” They continued to listen as the flames grew brighter. “It is a TESTAMENT to our worthy cause and the PRINCIPLES for which we STAND!” “Our Founding Fathers would applaud the EFFORTS you have made!” (loud, approving roars, echoed into the night sky.)
“The winds of our GOVERNMENT have shifted in this great country, and we are faced with difficult times.” (hushed silence) “The VOICES OF THE PEOPLE are NOT being heard.”” VOTES are no longer being COUNTED fairly or at ALL.”” We must set aside our indifferences to preserve OUR RIGHTS TO FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. Americans must unite in solidarity to bring the much needed accountability to Washington. We must use our PUMA voices to hold our elected officials responsible for the current state of affairs in this country.
We must put “COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY” when any branch in our GOVERNMENT chooses their will over the will of the AMERICAN people. We are standing up for the INTEGRITY of AMERICA. WE are fighting for the right of all AMERICANS to be heard. We MUST PRESERVE THIS FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOM for our children. It is a cause that is greater than our selves.
We do not want to RISK the PERIL of losing our voices, to have our FREEDOMS disappear like a silent thief in the night. It shouldn’t matter what party or candidate you support, this is a fight for EVERY VOICE, so that EVERYONE IN THE WORLD can be heard.
Our struggle may be difficult PUMAPAC, but the MIGHTY PUMAS do not give up!” PUMAS love America, and we do not stand alone!” “We stand TOGETHER!” (cheering roars of acknowledgement). The fire hissed and crackled while smoke swirled and disappeared into the dark night sky.
“Already, our mighty growls are being heard!” (PAWS clapping) “The 4th of July marks our first milestone, as we support in solidarity and respect a LEADER of great TENACITY, AND COURAGE. She waged a brave battle and did not give up. She give every STATE in the Union a voice. This great leader is ” HILLARY CLINTON!” (deafening ROARS filled the night sky) It is with great RESPECT ,ADMIRATION, and GRATITUDE, that many PUMAS are helping to PAY DOWN HER DEBT. She has shown us how important it is to FIGHT for our voices so that they can be heard in this great DEMOCRACY. PUMAS unite! We are ready. We will bring our VOICES to DENVER!” (deafening roar, paws clapping, tails waving the American flag) The PUMAS retired to rest for the journey that lay ahead of them.
I just heard this: Nobama said the media response to his Iraq remark was overblown , WHAT!!! so what now ? are we supposed to take EVERYTHING BO and MO says with a grain of salt (which I do any way) but I mean, Really , when Bo makes a speech what do we do try and read between the lines or just turn him off (which is what I do) I so feel like that white cat in the cage YEOOOOOOOOO! does BO think we have STUPID across our fore heads? Now he has me blubbering I mean for the first time in my adult life I am at a loss for words. Help Me!
NYC girl…I’m in NY as well. Long Island here. Just wanted to say Hi and yes, I know the song you speak of, Jeff Buckley’s genius lives on. I do hope, however, that it is not nearly the last goodbye for HRC, eh?
If there is anyone planning a show of PUMA pride at the NYC fundraising event(s)…I don’t know anything about it. As many here have mentioned, I’ve tried joinging up with local PUMA organization efforts, but had no response yet. :/ Anyway, NYC girl, if you wanna chat you can get at me at Kerriwyn@aol.com.
Yup, that’s right. I’m not scared of possible Obama-bot lurkers.
#554 snowtiger
I think what you are looking for is here:
Haymarket Martyr Louis Lingg Says Good-bye
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/45/
ALERT
Apparently, Obarky’s lawyers are trying to Fake Up our Convention too !!!!!!!!!
Negotiations will be finalized by July 15th. Help!
Heidi Li is doing something she has NEVER done before, begging people to pay attention to a post on her site and react.
Please read this and spread this post everywhere you go. Help!
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/2008/07/action-alert-funds-for-rapid-media-buy.html
To All PUMAs
WOMEN’S LEADERSHIP FORUM
O and Clinton are to meet with them on July 9 or 10. Which leadership forum is this? Democratic or the C.E.O business women?
#464 PA DEM
Maybe you could encourage other PUMA’s to set up a SKYPE account ? It would be fun to keep the skype window open for chit chat (like meeting at the water cooler.) and at the same time the blog can be open for meaningful issues.
http://www.skype.com very easy to set up and is free.
I wonder how the media is going to feel about being told they’re blowing *61’s decision on Iraq “out of proportion”
this could go in two very different ways: good for *61 or REALLY good for us
#574 Pookie,
Yup just read an article on “o”s flip flop. Which must now be considered a flip flop flip I think.
Or just a flipper? Idk. Lol
Anyway he is only digging himself deeper into his own delusions of consistency. After all when you got Tom Hayden questioning you..?
#574 Pookie
COMMENTS OVERBLOWN
O is just playing the victim again for his base. He’s blaming it on the media and putting on his teflon suit again. Knowing the sheep that follow him, they’ll probably flock around him in mindless bows.
Oops…I meant to say:
I wonder how the media is going to feel about being scolded by their boyfriend
Will in CO…how you figure it is to our disadvantage to be able to cite the very real effects of our cross-bordering unity? I’m confused. Saying that we have (estimable numbers) that grow every day, as well as being able to cite in their own language (that of money, apparently) the quite strong effect (I’m thinking we MUST have made a decent impact) of our financial dedication to a candidate they tried so very hard to bury…
I know I do not stand alone in wanting to be able to present some numbers while engaged in spirited discourse about what’s going on. Many people continue to want to brush HRC, PUMA and folk such as myself, under the rug. “Get over it”, it’s “done already”, “move on”, etc…
Having up to date proof of a living, evolving, adapting and GROWING mass of people who work so hard to right the seemingly endless injustices which CONTINUE to be perpetrated against us, a group in whose rank and file I fall among and contribute several hours each day to, is not harmful, but empowering and eye-opening.
$580 Clintonrules
MEDIA RESPONSE
Notice the dollar sign above by the 580. The campaign will just throw some more movie at the media for advertising and they’ll get the hint – lay off our guy. Money speaks.
Oops money not movie in 585
Annabelle #546 — just digged the Declaration!
thanks.
go and Digg it Pumas!
http://digg.com/politics/PUMA_s_Declaration_of_Objections
Snowtiger #544 — “I despise your order, your laws, your force-propped authority. Hang me for it!”
by Louis Linng, Haymarket Martyr in 1886 — in Chicago. heh.
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/45/
THanks Murphy.
Now who is going to para-phrase that for us?
#341 StarDust
Good one. I liked the line “You peel back the onion, and you start to cry a little bit.”
#588 murphy
Good thing you added the link at the bottom of that comment Murphy at first I thought you had finally lost it and was telling poor Snowtiger: I despise your order, your laws, your force-propped authority. and to Hang you for it!
Just uploaded a copy of ‘the mural’ that several Puma’s have been discussing. I believe it is located on a building in Houston TX, correct me if I’m wrong. One of our Pumas took the picture.
Sorry, not sure what you’re screen name is here picture taker, so I’d give credit if I could!
Anyway, check it out at the Action Center at:
http://pumapacusa.org/images/images-1.html
ROFL 592
Considering I spend most of my time online arguing with kool aid sippers that would be the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a long time. LOl.
I’ve set up a Skype account. I don’t have any contacts on it though, nor do I know how to find others or list myself in any PUMA groups?
When you set up Skype can’t others see your phone number?
#593 PA4HILL08 THE MURAL
Reminds me of China
I think I have a graphic commentary coming on! lol
Good night all. I got to go to work tomorrow and need my beauty sleep.
Keep feeding the PUMAS.
I must need to step awayt from the bong because I do not see a mural on that link
Puma Annabelle,
Just placed a link to your Declaration of Objections on the Action Center on the links page at:
http://pumapacusa.org/links.html
Great read Pumas!
#598 DancesWithPumas on 07.05.08 at 11:55 pm
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I had a feeling you would DWP!
murphy i went to the ball game tonight and checked out colors while I was there. Easiest to see was the florescent/neon green, followed by florescent/neon orange, then canary yellow, after that bright orange or bright red. blues, grays, purples, blacks, greens just seemed to blend in or not show up at all. Guess that why traffic workers wear orange or green neon
No, Trish. Skype works like IM. It calls your screenname, not your telephone. Though, I guess you can have it call your phone or cell phone, etc, etc. I believe the suggestion was for the free screenname computer to computer phone service.
#600 Trish,
You have a bong?
Goodnight snowtiger!
#604 Kerri
I used to use it for overseas calls at work and it always showed the persons phone number
#600 TrishfromCanada on 07.05.08 at 11:56 pm
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It’s the pioc of the Hopey one on the bright yellow wall of the building. LOL – You can’t see that?! LOL Long day huh Trish.
You have to click on the thumbnail to enlarge it.
#600 Trish – bong – LOL
#607 Trish,
You have a bong that shows phone numbers? Wow!
#605 antifish
If I did have a bong I wouldn’t know what to do with it. Probably try to play music with it or something
In light of the discussion earlier today about what to call Obama, I’m posting this little gem sent to me by a friend. It’s something that a reader submitted to the San Jose Mercury News.
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Given retractions about his pastor, his church membership, his surrogate general, etc., I suggest that he change his name to Backtrack Obama.
#610 antifish- It looks like you had a busy day.
firebelle i missed that part of the conversation. i call him bb for big britches. and pretty soon his suit really will be empty cause those pants will fall off
#608 PA4HILL08
Ok I go there and see two logos and Freds poster, but nothing else. And oh yeah very long day, and seeing you asked now I get to tell about it, when biking on some new trails, got sloppy, wiped out, and bruised up my knee and arm when I went down. One day I will learn to pay attention!
Murphy,
I think a statement of expectations should be the #1 comment for every time a new blog starts.
I wasn’t aware that my posts would go unanswered when I first blogged here. If I had not seen a post explaining this I would have thought that I was not welcome. We need to tell people that this is what they should expect. We need to mention that the thread often moves so fast that we are more like a bulletin board. You tack something on the board (blog) and sometimes you get an answer, but often other PUMAS just come here to read the posts.
Please add a statement that we must respect all users. That our postings should be civil and that they are being read by people from all over the world. That if anyone has a complaint or hurt feelings, rather than engaging in broadcasting their hurt feelings, they should send any complaints to a specified e-mail.
TrishfromCanada
(RoFL) I’m so glad you straightened out that bong thing
Now I’ll go back to (ROFL)
#615 – You have to refresh the page to see you.
#613 texassherry,
Yes, it appears I need to buy a new bong. One that shows phone numbers. This new technology is just mind-boggling!
#615 TrishfromCanada-It looks like you had a busy day on the blogs today too.
#581 snowtiger on 07.05.08 at 11:29 pm
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I’m telling you folks we really need to throw that fishy back into the pond so he’ll stop with all the flip-flopping! Maybe he’ll get a hook through his lip and find himself in a bucket under some fat old fisherman’s butt if we do.
Bwaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaa! Sorry, that last thought just brought out the evil Dr Heckyl in me. LOL
Must go to beddy bye now. Long day and more fun tomorrow!
G’night all!
#617 StarDust
Was ROFL also. I love haveing TrishfromCanada around to make me laugh.
I’m going to report this website from that I posted earlier because I think its interested and may help with future Daily Growls:
http://www.eyesonobama.com/
Blink very fast when you open the site, its a little overwhelming and invasive to your personal space at first.
#619 antifish
I’m with you. I tried that IM stuff once and I am too slow and it got frustrating. I just went and saw that Digg thing too and I am clueless.
#622 Haveing=having
PA4Hill08-Good night.
Anna7000: Satire and irony are the highest form of humor and the most deflating. Nicknames used on this site for BarackObama are examples of both irony and satire. Having reviewed this site for as long as it has been in existence, I have not found their use to be beneath the quality of the Site’s purpose or beneath the intelligence of their users. The tone and level of discussion throughout this site’s existence have also been appropriate, energized, passionate, and pragmatic. The broad stroke with which the Administrator of this site has operated has allowed and will continue to allow for the greatest variety of points of view, approaches, discussion , and organization. I have 25+ years of organizing social service, non-profit, political groups, permanent groups, a number of which are still in existence have many years. And, I can say that having been in existence for only a month, this group is way ahead of many I have advised and helped to grow. The group is about to make several shifts. While I do not know what they are, clearly they will further refine the structure within which a great variety of talent and personality can work.
#620 texassherry
Yes, earlier this morning I was on, then later in the evening, I’m trying to get superdelegate info regarding those supporting BO and its like pulling teeth, interestingly those supporting Hillary was so easy and organized. As usual secrets and hidden info surrounding Bo
#624 texassherry,
Yep, where we come from, you need a shovel to digg!
#614 Taffy
The discussion about what we call Obama and his supporters was about being respectful and remembering how we felt when people disrespected Hillary.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have posted the item above. But although it does poke fun at Obama, it wasn’t necessarily in bad taste. I hope.
Murphy,
Neon Green and Orange work equally well.
The road signs are in white and green because they are visually easier to see, than even black and white. But posters and flyers should be neon. They really stand out and with other projects like this I have found them to be highly effective.
#615 TrishfromCanada on 07.06.08 at 12:03 am
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Ouch! Hope you’re not going to be too stiff come the morrow my friend. Take care.
Goodnigh PA4Hill!
antifish
So from what I read I take it that I have to be politically correct when speaking now. Right?
#615 Trish,
Oh, I’m so sorry you were injured. Hope you don’t feel too bad tomorrow. It’s usually worse the next day. Not trying to be a downer.
#618 MuchAdoAboutSomething
ok thank you, refreshing worked and that another picture was there. Wow, do I feel like an idiot.
#634 texassherry,
Yep, for a while longer.
#635 antifish
Naw, it’ll be fine, I’m used to it, should have seen the first time I wore roller blades, now that hurt!
#637 antifish,
I tried to follow the posts today to see what everyone was working on so I could maybe help but the conversations were all over the place and I didn’t get anything out of it.
I searched the web to try and find out anything new but didn’t find anything.
#638 TrishfromCanada,
Try a hot bath in the morning to loosen up. That’s what works for me anyway.
#640 and #638 And if that doesn’t work, try the bong
Very nice Murphy. I went into bothe links and read and left a message or is it a mesage lol
#641 Muchadoaboutsomething,
I like your idea better. (The good ol days)
#627 NewOrleansPuma RE: SATIRE AND IRONY
It sounds like we have some common experiences in our background. (By saying so, I admit I ain’t 25 anymore!)
I completely agree that satire is a high form of humor. I also think that it’s in the eyes of the beholder. For example, I think Maureen Dowd of the NYTimes thinks she writes satire, but to me, she her writing reads like childish histrionic drivel. So, I think a person’s intentions and the reader’s perceptions can vary widely. That said, it seems prudent to avoid name calling altogether to stay above the fray.
And, yes, I agree the discussion on these blogs is usually quite great. I visited the site and the blogs for a while before joining in.
Anyway, sounds like we have different perspectives. That’s cool.
#641 MuchAdoAboutSomething
lol
#638 Trish,
Oh, once I went rollerskating and someone had dropped some chewing gum on the rink. In keeping with my usual luck, it sat there for days with no one coming near it. By the time my skate met it, it had hardened to the consistency of an immovable rock. I literally went airborne before crashing and sliding across the floor. I think my entire front side was bruised the next day.
#615 Trish from Canada
Sorry about your fall. What a bummer. Hope you’re icing and have a good night’s sleep. Don’t be surprised if it’s a bit more colorful and sore in the morning. Ice is really important the first 24-48 hours (even though it’s such a drag to do).
By the way, I love your posts!
#641 muchado,
Yeah, the bong!
#646 antifish,
LOL
I used to skate many many moons ago.
#646 antifish
I hate that, my problem was I was so used to ice skating, stupid me thought they worked the same. And of course, I had no helmet on, cause I was only going to try it for a few minutes. I’ve since learned!
TrishFromCanada you are not going to believe this. I was blocked again. I couldn’t log in. Third party again . I called Netzero because running virus scanner wouldn’t do it. I must have really peed someone off. Now i don’t have my Hi Speed no more but they will get it back for me. I will be a little slow tonight.I don’t know what they will do. I told them i want them to find out who is doing this to me. Geesh …must be a old hound dog lol
#648 antifish
Good thing Murphy isn’t here!!!!!!
Went to bed. Cat got me up. Checked the blog. Going back to bed. What a great group of folks!
#651 sandipuma
Are you paying for netzero or using their free service?
#651 sandipuma,
Hello, My computer is running really slow tonight and freezing up. Maybe an increase in traffic due to the holiday?
Ok, before I laid down in beddy bye I wandered over to the Denver Group. If Pumas can help out with their fundraising Action item, please do. We really need to help do anything and everything we can to make sure that Sen Clinton’s name at least gets into nomination in Denver. Read the blog and you decide. I’ve given several donations and will do so again tonight before I finally turn in.
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/2008/07/action-alert-funds-for-rapid-media-buy.html
#639 texassherry,
I felt the same way today. That’s why I didn’t comment much. Every time I tried to catch up, the topic had jumped to something else. Oh well, growing pains I guess.
I laid down for a hour earlier and watched the program with all the young new voters this year and it got me thinking how we ourselves need to reach as many of them as we can. I think we can do it.I can be a 62 years old teenager
#653 Anna7000,
Hello, I don’t think I had a chance to talk to you this morning but welcome. I jumped ship when the drama started. I needed to get some work done anyway.
antifish,
It would be nice to have more than one active thread where groups can split up and they would be smaller groups. Also maybe people with the same goals and interests could be together and there would be less drama that way.
#649 texassherry,
Believe it or not it’s a skill you don’t lose. I once went 15 years without skating, put them back on, and within minutes, it had all come back. Amazed me!
Mine was from a third party blocking me from getting in here. Thats twice now. Don’t know how. Netzero said i had no virus or notta just someone blocking me from getting in here only
#660 texassherry,
I agree. We’ve grown so much that this blog is becoming hard to keep up with.
#662 sandipuma
Did you get an error? or a pop up?
#650 Trish,
Yes. Even though I’m a pretty good roller skater, I would never try ice-skating at my age. I hear they are very different!
#658 Sandipuma,
I tried with my won kids with little luck. My son doesn’t want to bother with voting because it interferes with his work and social life. My oldest daughter says she is so sick of hearing all the crap this campaign that she doesn’t want to vote for anybody. The other 2 daughters listened to me but really didn’t let me know what they were doing and I didn’t want to push them.
AS I WAS SAYING WE NEED TO GET ALL THE YOUNG NEW VOTERS WE CAN TO COME AND JOIN PUMA> THEY WOULD BE THE GREATEST OF HELP TO US AND OUR CAUSE
antifish,
I never could get my ankles straight with ice skating but I was pretty good at roller skating when I was a teenager. I was in ameteur rollar Derby. That was when I lived in San Diego, CA.
Hey hey, PUMAs! I found out that my ‘flu’ was actually E. Coli poisoning from Subway of all places. Took some medicine and now I feel fresh as a daisy!
Hmm…tried to find something interesting to post here, but many people already posted articles I’ve found.
Oh! Here’s one:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/02/poll-shows-americans-cool-to-michelle-obama/
CNN Poll shows that Michelle Obama is viewed more unfavorably than Cindy McCain. It also shows that Michelle Obama is known much more than Cindy McCain. There’s been a lot of talk lately about whether Michelle is ‘off limits’, but isn’t she the one going out and attacking people? If you can’t stand the heat…
Yes but there are a lot of blogs out there with young people and after watching that program we need to get to the young voters who are voting this year
Trish! You scared me. For a moment there I though you were saying you had been tokin on the OHopie bong and we would need an intervention!
Whew… glad you clarified. LOL
Ok now I’m off to sleepy land. Really, I am going this time. See all t-morrow.
#665 antifish
Ice skates are easier than roller blades, in my opinion, better stopping. i grew up beside a large pond that froze over in the winter, so we all learned to ice skate before starting school. Maybe that’s why its easier for me
Hello PUMAS, How was everyone’s day. I have not heard any news. Anything I should know?
Sandipuma,
That is a good idea. I live pretty much in a retirement community so don’t see many young voters except my kids and as I said before I couldn’t get any of them interested. They think I am obsessed with this election.
#667 sandipuma
shhhhhhhhhhhhh we heard you, no need to shout, your caps made the pupils in my eyes dance
Does anyone have the Obama total for money spent on his primary campaign? It would be fun to figure out how much he spent per delegate compared to past primaries.
I am sure it is outrageous! The Obama delegates are most likely upper end expendatures. Hillary’s have to be lower per delegate. (It must be those working class undereducated people on fixed budgets)
Obama’s arugala ,Starbucks crowd surely cost much more per delegate.
In the Democratic Party 60% voted BHO and 40% voted Senator Clinton. We sure could use what they know about getting to the younger blogs and getting them to join PUMA
SKYPE:
You don’t have to list your phone. In fact you can leave your profile blank with just your PUMA name that others can see.
You can turn it off so others can’t see you online or turn it on so others can see that you are online and talk to you.
However, you can do a general chat with whoever in the world is on skype OR you can just invite specific people
into your contact list.
Don’t worry too much about the details.. sign up, post your given name so someone can ask permission to talk to you. I only have a list of family members. No one else.
I can see when they are on the computer or if they prefer to be invisible, they switch off and I can post my message and they pick up when they get on. It is quite
safe – i think. You can send images too but the receiver has to give permission or reject it. The great thing is it can be one on one or a group conversation.
I think it is a GREAT idea just to meet and greet there and come into the blog for serious stuff.
Sandipuma,
I did try blogging on sites with younger people and when they weren’t cursing at me then they might have heard a word or two. I only had one act respectful and told me he was glad that I researched the candidates instead of listening to rumors.
#671 PA4HILL08
lol OHopie would never be so lucky to drag one of us to his camp.
I have a Skype account:
piepiepie75.
Feel free to add me
.
PHOTOS ON ACTION SITE
Fred – great poster (eye-catching). Thanks.
Last night’s discussion – Thanks to PUMAs for getting the photo of O on the building. As I remember, someone was going to make a Hillary jacket to cover it?!!!!!
Trish and Antifish – Rollerblades? I have trouble walking on my own two feet. I’m impressed. Trish, I hope you are okay.
Neon green and orange – Maybe there should be a big PUMA face on a T-shirt for the Denver protest in neon orange.
Firebelle – You always post “nice”. Saw your post earlier or later (whenever) about police and fire at the Denver protest. Only been in a protest once – Chicago in 1965, an MLK march (he wasn’t there) for peace. It was surrounded by police mostly for our own protection. Have ridden with both police and fire on duty. Only time I got scared was in a drug bust with the street crime unit. Fire was scarey too as the battalion chief and myself raced to a fire in a warehouse in the industrial section of town. My son happened to be on scene going into the smoke. So I have a lot of respect for all of these folks doing their job to protect us. PUMAs, when you’re in Denver, be kind to them. They’ll look scarey and are firm – that’s their training, but they have hearts of gold for the most part .
#624 texassherry ,
I am with you on that digg site. I just looked and said…OK.
Evening PUMAs! Sorry I’m late to the party. I have a friend over this weekend and we’ve been watching movies so I can’t be here as much. Sorry everyone. My mom, my friend (Big Hillary supporter and PUMA without internet. I’ve told you about him before) and I were talking politically this afternoon and we all had the same feeling that BHO’s campaign seems to be crumbling before it can start. Does anyone else feel like America is starting to wake up and see through him or is it just us?
Sandipuma,
We need someone like Chelsea. She did really well with the younger people. Isn’t Matt pretty young? Maybe he can help.
#663 antifish
I completely agree with this. It takes me an hour or 2 just to read through all the posts.
But then again part of that is because I get distracted.
Well the UnDemocratic Party has allready spent wayyyy to much on the convention and are now in the hole and will dig it deeper i hope. Or let Howie and pelosi,reis and brazil pay for the debt lol
hillaryistheone,
Hello,
It makes you feel old doesn’t it? I used to be one of the most up to date on computers but I have fell behind the times.
ACCOUNTS ON OTHER SITES:
If I have one more password to remember, I’m going to start “eating” them. I tried “digging”, but my login wouldn’t work. Will try it tomorrow. Sitting here eating rhubard crisp that my husband grows and prepares. Yum!
It really annoys me how all the young people just love BO, and can’t get enough of BO. I have lots of friends who can’t stand BO, are not voting for him.
I’m the Starbucks sort-of activist type and I don’t like BO. My parents both have doctorates and are pretty liberal and they don’t like BO. My brother’s 23 and he doesn’t like BO.
I think the media makes alot of hype, remember young voters were supposed to give Kerry a victory in 2004, and BO victory in NH. Too bad they never showed up.
#685 texassherry on 07.06.08 at 12:44 am
Yes I’m 18 and at your service
#686 Inu,
Hello. Sandipuma was just talking about getting some more younger people to be Pumas. Maybe you could help since you are younger than we are.
#678 Fred
Thanks for the info on Skype, but I’m going to pass, I have found that creating environments off the website tends to break up the group and creates little camps, then things become less effective and less efficient. Regardless of the purpose of the split or offshoot, my experience is that it doesn’t work. And we need everyone united for all the tasks that must be done.
Here’s a link to a free movie all PUMAs should watch:
http://www.freeforall.tv/
It is a full length movie and eye opening. Apparently the guy is working on a new movie about the 2008 election, too.
I just want to share this with you guys. This is the song I think of when I look back on Hillary’s campaign and how it affected me. I’m a stone-cold rocker, but this CW song has always been in my top ten. In the intro, Garth talks about those who are no longer with us, and just for right now, Hillary isn’t. I don’t know when, but I know she’ll be back. Thing is, I’m proud to have been a small part of “the dance”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxiJJBvZnRI
#691 Matt,
Talk to Sandipuma about recruiting younger Pumas. It was her idea. I just volunteered you. LOL
InYouHanyou i know i read and go through the links for an hour before i chat. lol
#690 matt2008A
Obama is Kerry: Version 2008. I was watching a stand-up comedian today say that the Democrats nominated a horrible person in ‘04. He said something like “It doesn’t take that much to beat Bush…it’s like putting an Olympic gold medalist against some preschoolers, and somehow the Democrats managed to lose”
antifish,
I love that song but I guess you kinda figured already I was in to that CW music.
Hi matt lol will i pass for 18??? lol
#682 halligan
Thanks for your post about your protest experience. I’ve never participated in a protest either as a protestor or an emergency responder. But I’ve been involved in counterterrorism training. It’s an enormous challenge for emergency responders.
#684 Inu
OBAMA UNRAVELING
I wish I could feel that is true, but have you noticed that the McCain campaign is still as of today, trying to figure out their “big” message.
Sandipuma,
Matt said he would help with recruiting young people. Inu and Jeremy I think are both young too and maybe will help.
nforhillary #616 I like that idea. Sometimes it’s hard to remember that many are new to blogging. Thank you.
I am trying to recruit one person. My former teacher and a huge Hillary supporter. He’s in his mid 20s, so that sort of young. He has grown to almost detest BO. Hes been involved in politics before and knows alot about politics here in GA. All I have to do is get his e-mail. I sort of got him into the blogs in May.
I’m sure he will want to join.
I am old, but pretty up on computers, that is my line of work. I think murphy’s site is the best. She has what is planned for the day at he top of the page and keeps us up to date. Not too many bells and whistles…makes it easier to use and to the point.
704 texassherry
I’m young (18) as well, so whatever I can do to help, I’d be glad to.
#696 antifish
Thank you, I’m a big C&W fan
Matt i thought if we could find young people blogs we could go in and see who all were for Hillary and maybe get them to join PUMA
#700 texassherry
Maybe we should adopt “Standing outside the fire” as our song.
my grand daughter and a few of my friends are in FaceBook and so am i. Thought maybe i would go in there too
#708 piepiepie75,
Hello,
Thank you for volunteering. We need more young people to join the pumas. Maybe you and Matt can put your heads together and come up with a plan.
#695 Csu
MOVIE
Is this movie anything to do with the O screen play debut in Montana? Someone on an earlier blog or maybe it was something I read, said that O was in with camera folks on a professional shoot (film) in Montana yesterday inbetween his appearance.
#699 piepiepie75 on 07.06.08 at 12:50 am
I know Kerry is a pretty weak politican, my uncle works with him. He really is a do-nothing, hes supposed to be on This Sunday Morning tomorrow, he sounds like he’s mumbling.
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I’m sure sandipuma you could pass for 18
#703 halligan
I agree with that but you also have to consider this. McCain doesn’t want to start attacking Obama right away and he certainly doesn’t want to make the Democrats think he’s a force to be reckoned with right now. It lulls them into a false sense of security (He’s a Republican… They are very shrewd if anything…) I may be giving him more credit than I should be. But this is my take on it. The LAST thing John McCain wants in this race is to run against Hillary Clinton. Why? He knows he wouldn’t stand a CHANCE. And my mom was telling me today that she saw somewhere that I think it was 48% of registered Democrats are hoping that Hillary becomes the nominee? Anyone else see this?
#713 texassherry
Well, I was thinking of looking through her Facebook and MySpace friends. There will be hundreds of thousands of users to look through, so I’m sure we can get a lot of new and young members.
Muchtodoaboutsomething,
That is a good song. Maybe you can make it an action item and get people to vote on several different ones to see which is the favorite.
#712 Sandi
FACEBOOK
I found out a couple of months ago that the co-owner of FACEBOOK worked for O on the internet campaign. I e-mail him at Facebook and told him why I was unsubscribing. It was hard because my daughter uses it a lot to communicate with me. But she and her husband understood, so now we use myspace.
I miss seeing Hillary and Bill in the news every day. I just feel so empty now.
ho piepie allways good to have you and matt here. Makes me feel young
“705″ “616″ MURPHY
“I think a statement of expectations should be the #1 comment for every time a new blog starts.”
and maybe include a paragraph re: forum etiquette (along the lines of what you and Anna7000 discussed earlier). Thanks
piepiepie75,
Great idea. See you are way ahead of me. I have never even been on facebook so you see how outdated I am.
#700 texassherry,
Yeah, I kinda figured a Texas girl would love her some Garth.
#721 sandipuma
Hey Sandi
, you know what they say, you’re only as old as you feel!
Its hard to get people my age on the blogs, they are usually not that interested, I think alot of people don’t even care about the election anymore.
Facebook could be a good way to get people. I could see if they already have a group or if I could send a message to a Hillary supporter group of facebook.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/zachedwards/gGgMH5
This is from “Zach” regarding the mural. This gives the whole picture from the one posted at the action center.
I will post some recent comments to the local Big paper..(Houston Chronicle) in regards.
#692 texassherry
Yikes! I almost missed your post to me. Sorry about that. Glad I scrolled up. I’m doing what I can to get my friends to join us but most of them are not too interested in politics so it’s kind of like…. And I’m at a loss for a good Texas metaphor… (
We moved to Phoenix from Houston) But I do what I can. I don’t blog much anywhere else except here as I feel most comfortable here.
#717 piepiepie75 on 07.06.08 at 12:57 am
Whats your name under facebook?
I have myspace too. But my graddaughter dosn’t. Hey all the more readon for me to go in to Facebook and write for Hillary.
#709 Trish,
You’re welcome. It can’t get much better than that song for me.
#693 TrishfromCanada
It is not a split. It is for all the ‘Good mornings and Good nights” and for general misunderstandings on the increase.. take it there. just to reduce all the stuff that we should not have to read.
Not intended to be an off shoot or anything – I have suggested it to Murphy off blog.
Heres something odd, My 60 year old father has a facebook account to meet up with all of his old psychology buddies. Sometimes he sends me annoying messages.
(Its OK though, he is not for BO)
I must be tired i am hitting all the wrong letters lol.My writing looks aweful and it takes 5 mins to go up
#707 hillaryistheone
I agree, I really like this website, its layout works well, info is organized so it can be retreived easily and the bandwidth seems very good to handle so many bloggers at peak times.
Its impressive that Murphy, Maryland PUMA, PA4Hill08 and MamaPuma keep everything so up-to-date, and everyone so informed.
Continuation of what I was saying to texassherry
I DO work at the library though. I could speak to my branch manager and see if I would be allowed to put some fliers out somewhere where they would be seen. We aren’t allowed to participate in City Elections and whatnot but I’ve never been told that National Elections were off limits. I hadn’t considered doing this… I know I can’t pass out business cards while on duty so I haven’t even attempted that but I’ll talk to my branch manager when I return Monday. (I can also ask if we can post PUMA fliers on poles at, say our bus transit centers. GREAT visibility there for us but I have to see if it’s legal.
Don’t want to get us in trouble. I’ll let you know what I find out. (Why I didn’t think of this before is beyond me)
#728Inu,
I know what you mean. I can’t get my kids interested in it either. I was like that too though when I was younger. I voted every 4 years for the president and then it was whoever sounded the best on TV. Young people are so busy that it is so hard to get them to slow down and do some research or get involved. We really appreciate everything you do.
#716 Inu
O IMPLODING
I can agree with your opinion, “but” in politics, its like ying and yang. There has to be an opposing force strengthening the base for McCain. I’m not sure that his base is there because so many Rs have jumped ship for O. If he waits too long (like September) it may be too late to get those folks back. The race is different this year because there is so much dissatifaction out there with Bush. I know I’ll get clawed for saying this, but my feeling is that McCain is just a puppet for the Rs to use until they can rebuild their base. I actually feel sorry for him because I think he’s basically a good man with a bad temper at times. Some people feel that there will be swift-boating after the convention, but I think the Dems have already made plans for that especially since O seems to be able to wear the teflon so well to date.
LOL matt well thats a good thing.
These are comments made recently about the mural of local residents. Saw it mentioned again and wanted to add what I got today. The skills list is revised and Murphy has it in her hands. Thanks to all!
~J
“Great…thugs for Obama. Why am I not surprised. You Obama supporters are the new Al-Quaida recruits. WAKE UP. This is not the sort of change we need.”
6/7/2008 8:51 PM CST
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“It’s not that nondescript a building.
It’s very bright yellow, is more usually a dedicated AfrAm community bazaar, and the color matches the other building across the street that houses the Breakfast Klub (sic) AKA the Hart Attak Kafe, which happens to be owned by an AfrAm gentleman who is very “down with” the local KPFT Afrocentric mafi… er, community, and I can’t figure out why he is going anonymous here, except that he doesn’t want to be seen to be another AfrAm guy casting an obvious race vote. But he is.”
“You know what I want to see? I want to see one single solitary local AfrAm person articulating a position-based reason why they’re voting for Obama. Preferably one that doesn’t have to do with expecting more entitlements for AfrAms. “
Antifish
Listen to this one, this is our song, for PUMA’s everywhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUmO-ELaR_o
This is a great video!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FvuMDmqwwbI&feature=rec-fresh
Inu,
Great Idea. Just make sure you don’t get yourself in trouble. Someone said earlier that you can use tape somethime to post thing but not staples.
Regarding misspelling: Found this a long time ago so don’t have the url to give you, but well worth the read:
Typoglycemia
And How the Mind Sees
“The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch taem at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Such a cdonition is arppoiately cllaed Typoglycemia “
#730 Sandi
FACEBOOK
I like your strategy. Maybe I’ll go back to Facebook. Each time I do, I can do a PUMA thing. Got any ideas?
#732 Fred
Just giving my opinion, if Murphy thinks it’s a good idea then great, I hope it works out for everyone.
#740 Jeremy,
Hello,
I saw the picture of the building. I was hoping there was a picture of Hillary covering it.
well at least Mccain is a Patriot. and i will not pay a penny to go see the movie they are making of Obumbus unless it’s one showing him under the bus and his GrandMother driving it.
#744 Cosmeta
TYPOS
Your post was easy to read. I’ve seen this before and used it with students. I’m a teacher.
#743 texassherry
The poles at the transit centers are metal so I would have to use duct tape or something similar (The storms here, when we get them, produce very powerful winds. Too bad I can’t use Gorilla Glue.
) but since I work for the City, getting an answer for whether we’re even allowed to shouldn’t be too hard. If my branch manager doesn’t know, she’ll be able to direct me to someone who would know. As for putting them up in the library, we have tables placed throughout the library that we usually display books on. I don’t know whether to place the fliers there or not (If I’m allowed to) so, again, I’ll let you all know what my manager says.
#726 MATT RE Facebook
” I could see if they already have a group or if I could send a message to a Hillary supporter group of facebook.”
Will Bower has a group there. It was his Hillary site and he switched it to PUMA. This is the only link I have, you can work your way back to the home page from here:
http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=25214715411&view=all
P.S. What’s so odd about your father having a Facebook account?
And here’s another old post with regard to misspelling I came across…
[Begin Quote]
“Okay, gifted ones… Did that make you pause, or did you already know that dyslexia is a gift? If you question that statement, consider the following individuals who are on record as having dyslexia:
Albert Einstein
Leonardo da Vinci
Cher
Thomas Edison
Bruce Jenner
Gen. George S. Patton
Agatha Christie
Walt Disney
Tom Cruise
Winston Churchill
Hans Christian Anderson
John F. Kennedy
Whoopi Goldberg
John Lennon…..
So, if you felt less than fine about yourself because of the common view of dyslexia, please take the next ten minutes… go stand in front of a mirror, preen and admire yourself! You’re dyslexic! elm ” ) <—-I got that list from a newsletter that comes to parents of Special Ed. children.”
[End Quote]
#750Inu,
Sounds like a good plan. Thank you.
#741 Trish
SONG
Good lyrics! They fit. How about a thread for theme music for PUMAs in the Action Center, Murphy? Trish, you and Antifish would be great at getting something like that going.
Anyone go to the Trekkie Convention in Las Vegas last week? Sandi, how about you?
This is AWESOME
There is a PUMA group on facebook the have over 400 members !!!!!!!! I’m going to join. The have the Just Say No Deal thing and everything
Yeah!!!!…..This is perfect for us.
744 cosmeta
I think that’s because we see words as graphics, not individual letters. It’s also the reason ALL CAPS IS DIFFICULT TO READ, the “graphic” becomes a rectangular block, instead of a patterned graphic.
#751 DancesWithPumas on 07.06.08 at 1:11 am
The weird psychology corny joke messages in my inbox
Yeah, I just found the group….oh well
#716 halligan,
The race is different this year because there is so much dissatisfaction out there with Bush. I know I’ll get clawed for saying this, but my feeling is that McCain is just a puppet for the Rs to use until they can rebuild their base. I actually feel sorry for him because I think he’s basically a good man with a bad temper at times.
No claws out here, I totally agree!
In a way, we feel the same way about *61 as they do about McCain.
#729 matt2008A
Here’s my Facebook
.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=570217859
P.S. Here’s Hillary’s
http://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton
Matt see above #751
hmmmm yes we put a picture of Hillary in there and write all the reasons why she won and BHO did not win. We mention the DNC and how they are and the selection not the election. The cheating at caucuses and the polls. The lies ,the sexism and so on.
Wait this group was created by Amy Goldman. Will Bower’s name isn’t anywhere.
#755 matt2008A
You can also fin Will Bower at PUMA08
#738 halligan
With regards to the puppet statement (
No you aren’t getting clawed I promise). I very much agree with this but I’d also like to say that I see BHO as a puppet as well. This “candidate” if he can be called that, doesn’t have an original thought in his head. So I think we can safely assume that he won’t be running the show if he were to be elected. Actually I tend to see BHO as more of a puppet than McCain. McCain is very strong willed. I don’t think it’s possible to be a P.O.W. for as long as he was and not be strong willed. BHO isn’t so he can be controlled much easier. That’s a big reason that the Democrats are pushing for Obama so hard. He’s just going to be a figurehead. Do you agree?
well done piepie ty
#753 texassherry
You’re very welcome. Thank you for mentioning it and inspiring the idea.
#747Texassherry~the thing is bigger than it looks in the pics. Also, now it is well lit at night and there are “guards” behind the building looking like pedestrians, etc..when I was talking with a group today when I check the place out, they said they were expecting “those not following the path” to vandalize it.
Was an eventful day…in many ways.
Matt
Will uploads my graphics to their photo gallery, so I know he’s involved with Amy Goldman probably shares the admin stuff with him. I’ve her name beforfe but can;t recall the context.
#749 halligan on 07.06.08 at 1:09 am, WROTE,
[[ Your post was easy to read. I’ve seen this before and used it with students. I’m a teacher.]]
A teacher—hey. Kool. Yeah, wasn’t that post about how the *mind* sees fascinating. Children are amazing and we can often learn from them. A teacher once scolded me for allowing my son to write backwards as she called it. When writing script he would start at the 12 o’clock position and then move his script clockwise. She said that was wrong. So I asked him why he does it that way … And he replied, “Mommy, because it’s faster.” LOL
#765 Inu,
I did the easy part. I just volunteered you and Sandipuma. LOL
Oh man……. I wish we had an “edit” function. RE #768 and a hundred other of my posts
Hey Chelsea Clinton is part of the PUMA Facebook group!
Good for her!
#750 Inu
Fliers, Cards, and Posters in Public Places
In our library, one has to ask permission to post. Most political material is not allowed because of the rule that supposedly allows for all to post if one starts to in a political race. Our state has definitely rules about using or doing political things with state equipment. My advise to you is to be “very” careful where you place things while on the job. There are huge fines for employees who are found doing such things. Please be careful.
#755 matt2008A
It is a VERY good idea for the PUMAs to be on sites like Facebook and MySpace (IS there a PUMA MySpace profile?) as this is partially how BHO did so well in the primaries. We really need to take our group and go viral (This isn’t as negative as it sounds! For those who don’t understand the phrase. Viruses can spread very fast VIA the internet. The phrase “go viral” means to spread word of yourself (In this case the PUMA movement) as quickly as a virus would spread)
DancesWithPumas
Thanks for the facebook info!
#773 halligan
I’m going to be asking my manager first and foremost if I’m even allowed to place fliers for PUMA in the library.
But thank you very much for the warning. I will be careful
#767 Jerema,
I can imagine that the security is tight. I was just messing with you LOL. On the serious side though if you could find enough people in the area that don’t like it you could start a petition saying it was an “eyesore”. That is what I would do if it were closer to me. I would complain that the shock of it would make me wreck my car so it was a hazard.
#769 Cosmeta
WHAT THE MIND SEES
Aren’t kids great! If we take the “time” to watch and listen, they teach us so much. Thanks for sharing.
#775 matt FACEBOOK
my pleasure
I also like to call them UnDemocratic Party and mention Pumapac. Also that we will take our Party back. I also say i would like Dean,Pelosi,Reid and Brazil in line at the unemployment office.
#748 sandipuma
and i will not pay a penny to go see the movie they are making of Obumbus unless it’s one showing him under the bus and his GrandMother driving it.
Go grandma!
#776 Inu
POSTING
Good job! We don’t want to have to come and bail you out!
#772 matt2008A
Really? I just did a search for Chelsea Clinton on Facebook and I see about five profiles that are claiming to be Chelsea. Are you sure it’s her actual account?
#756 DancesWithPumas on 07.06.08 at 1:14 am, WROTE,
[[ 744 cosmeta
I think that’s because we see words as graphics, not individual letters. It’s also the reason ALL CAPS IS DIFFICULT TO READ, the “graphic” becomes a rectangular block, instead of a patterned graphic. ]]
I think you are right… in pictures and by stored association of thought concept. This thing today about spelling has intriqued me because I misspell all the time and will often type by way of phonetic sounding. In order for me to remember anything I store it in pictures. For example, the number 6 is a pipe; the number 8 a pair of sunglasses. And when I was younger I had to see, hear and touch something for me to learn. So after seeing a word, I would have to say it aloud and then take my finger and write on the pane of a frosted window pane… something my mother loved. heeheehee
piepiepie
Good point let me check and see……
LOL #777! After checking the place out and spending some time there…now yesterday…I don’t think those complaints would be taken seriously or believable…if you catch the driftwood…
So yes i think in MySpace and Facebook if enough of us went in and did this we could get responce. Plus look for New Voters for Hillary blogs and see what we can find or young voters for Hillary
antifish,
Did you go to sleep on us?
#767 Jeremy
PICTURE ON BUILDING
We don’t want to go there if it means a violation or vandalism, but we can still think “good” thoughts. Is there another building close by that the owners would allow a counter to the O painting?
Antifish
Where are you? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
#778 halligan on 07.06.08 at 1:23 am, WROTE,
[[ Aren’t kids great! If we take the “time” to watch and listen, they teach us so much. Thanks for sharing. ]]
They certainly are. Like I aways say… If you want to understand an infant or young child, get down on the floor and see the world through their eyes.
wow thats great piepie and matt you guys are fast. I get any slower and i’ll be going backwards
#790 halligan
Yes antifish! Return to us from the land of slumber. I haven’t said hello to you yet!
And did goandersen leave for the night or just for a little while?
#786 Jeremy,
I was a BO jungle out there I take it. I got it. LOL
PUMAs my friend and I are going to be resuming our film fest so once again I will be very slow in response to any questions or comments posed to me. (And my friend wanted me to say something. “GO PUMAS! Wish I could join you!”)
261 Middle age female
“always wondered why the media failed to mention that crowd of 75k in Oregon was there for a rock concert, not just to see BO. I don’t even remember FOX picking up on it.”
Yes they did, I watched in Hannity and Colmes and they were making fun of it.
Has anyone here ever heard of the “Battling Grannys”.
They’re a NYC anti-war group . I think you have to be over 80 to join. At any rate, they picket recruitment offices, national guard training centers WITHOUT permits . . . with the objective of getting arrested. It’s quite amusing: some of them have walkers, many of them have canes, the leader is over 90. Whenever they show up to protest the police are ordered to arrest them. If you could see the faces of the police (as they are loading these senior citizens into police vane), they would rather be ANYWHERE than there . . . of course the heckling they get from passer-bys doesn’t help.
I’m wondering if I could sell them on the idea of picketing for Hillary.
piepie and matt you new voters are the future so you are very important to America.
#789 halligan~The owner of the building is the owner of the closet building next to it….and it is a trendy eatery named the “The Breakfast Klub.” I wouldn’t vandalize anything anyway. Not saying that was any one’s intention or mine..not in my character. Anyway, I talked about MILES upthread and how I was glad that I invested the time to check it out. Now I feel empowered or equal to it. I accept it and now know why it was done.
#795 Inu -
Have fun. If I am not still online then I will tell you now that it has been good talking with you. You are a great PUMA.
piepie, Matt,
Can you think of any other good public forums (On the level of MySpace and Facebook) that we could spread the word of PUMA (Yikes that sounds cultish… It was not intended to!) on? I was thinking Xbox Live but I guess that wouldn’t really work very well as it is a gaming platform more than a public forum.
#798 sandipuma
Well, at least we all aren’t zombies
.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chelsea_Clinton/1200422627
This APPEARS to be Chelsea’s true profile. I just sent her a friend invite.
LOL mpDamon thats to funny
piepiepie
I’ve narrowed it down to two people. Look at their friends and that will give u a better idea of whos who.
re #212
those odds can change overnight..don’t pay any attention to them..
Obama needs to be outed – I’m sure he has some pretty bad stuff on him buried somewhere by his campaign flunkies ..the man and his wife have gotten away with murder so far with a free pass by the media..
I hope someone out there is doing some serious investigative research on this shady character Obama… who IMHO is nothing more than a phony and a liar pulling the “con” of the century on the American people..
#784 Cosmeta
KINESTHETIC LEARNING
Use to teach kindergarten students their letters by drawing on the windows and in the sandbox. It was so good for them to feel their learning. But now with all the state testing, kinesthetic learning is considered “play”, not academics. But we all know that “play” is like work for children and its their best way to learn. Before I retired, I taught middle school students and we were teaching them with a kinesthetic approach (mainly because we were dealing with a lot of students who spoke English as a second language). Lots of movement, motion, drawing, cutting, anything to let them feel their way through the language jungle.
#800 texassherry
Thank you very much! You are a great PUMA as well! Thank you for continuing to be active in our conversations!
Yeppers #794 texassherry!
piepiepie
Never mind, forget that last message. I think thats her too. She is part of the PUMA group
#801 InuHanyou1701
I remember on the HillaryClinton.com blog many people linking to Hillary Clinton support forums. But I would imagine that many of them have already found their way over here.
And yeah, gaming sites=off limits xD. We’re basically going to want to target places that are at least somewhat political. I would imagine people on gaming forums etc. would be quite annoyed with us making random PUMA threads.
wow piepie great work. I am going to spend at least three hours doing all this tomorrow. I want to go in all and my own two.Do it up right
Inu & Jeremy,
I am glad that I could inspire. Anytime. You guys are great.
#799 Jeremy
MILES
What post # above? I know you wouldn’t do anything. I’ve been watching your posts and enjoying everyone of them. Thanks.
#809 matt2008A
That’s really awesome! Could this be a signal that Bill and Hillary are secret PUMAs themselves?
Also, for those interested, here’s Bill’s Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bill-Clinton/25754816328
We might wanna look here for HRC supporters.
Sandipuma,
Thanks for your idea and working with the guys. I don’t know anything about facebook so I am glad you could get it done.
#812 texassherry~can’t give you a “thumbs up” but can give you a “hookem!” in its place.
Question: Is Obama trying to make steal the Convention from us with a team of lawyers too, like he stole our votes during the primaries through Rules and Bylaws Committee?
Yes. By July 15th so we have got to start helping Heidi’s Denver Group do an ad buy now. Please, PUMA power unite.
_______________________
But, if you want to hear the brilliant reasoning behind this conclusion, here is is from Heidi Li Feldman, an attorney and professor.
Question: Is Obarky trying to steal the Convention?
Heidi’s Answer— it’s like Hillary answering a debate question. I think it’s going to open all of our eyes.
“Ok, I’m using my last shred of energy to give you a more proper reply. Please note that this speculation based on the evidence that is publicly available. But I spend a lot of time speaking with journalists about what conclusions they can infer from a situation that is otherwise murky and involves negotiation. Here we go, in list form, because of tiredness.
1. We know the Obama/Clinton camps are in negotiations about Clinton’s role at the convention and her involvement in campaigning for Obama should he become the nominee because both Clinton and Obama have said as much. ANYBODY engaged in high level negotiations of any kind SHOULD be using lawyers for the job.
2. Jonathan Mantz communicated to “top” fundraisers that the big push to pay off the debt would last through July 15, a fairly arbitrary date.
3. To the annoyance of many, the Clinton campaign stopped using hillraisers for retiring the debt.
4. Bill Clinton: not stepping up to help Obama, barely takes his phone call.
5. As Obama looses support, he’s more and more afraid that if Sen. Clinton’s name is put in nomination, then Senator Clinton might well win.
6. Since Obama does not like to have to really fight to win, he is for sure pressuring Clinton to resist efforts to have her name put in nomination (this would include nominating speeches on Clinton’s behalf, which Obama dreads.
7. But Obama is having to bail out the DNC which has no money to really hold a convention and that gives him some leverage over Sen. Clinton.
Taking 1 – 7 together I think it is a safe bet that Obama wants an agreement with Clinton that can be announced in the 3rd week of July, just 4 weeks from the convention, that would indicate that he will get his coronation.
Senator Clinton is clearly resisting. Apart from refusing to stop asking for donations to retire the debt, and in a addition to (probably) not wanting to consent to object to being nominated, she’s pushing *61 to include in the party platform truly universal health care, etc (this is my educated speculation about they dynamics of the negotations.)
What makes the entire situation DEFINITELY URGENT is that to bolster the negotiating stance of those who seek an authentically democratic convention – which, in my opinion, includes putting Sen. Clinton’s name into nomination, NOW is when we have to buy mass media to specifically demonstrate that any deal that costs us a real process is unacceptable.
Hope this helps. I must sleep now.”
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Okay, so that’s why NOW IS OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP OUR CONVENTION. TO KEEP HILLARY ON THE BALLOT, ESP. IF BARKS IMPLODES.
PLEASE HELP.
HERE’S THE LINK TO HER WEBSITE..(same as above, just for convenience)
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/2008/07/action-alert-funds-for-rapid-media-buy.html
#814 piepiepie75,
I would like to know what Bill REALLY thinks wouldn’t you?
ok i am going into some of these right now and to Hillary’s right now too. I wonder if President Clinton has one too?? lol i will be back in a bit.
#810 piepiepie75
You’re right about most of them finding their way here now. Not only that but I have heard, from the PUMAs themselves, that pretty much any comment not speaking of unity and that load of (Well you know) is being moderated.
#816 Jeremy,
“hookum” back at ya.
Sorry I am kind of slow at this, just remembered my Facebook password (never use it, my son talked me into it about a year ago), anyway…is there a PUMA facebook yet? Thanks.
#813 halligan~#235 and then after more research posted #321. and thanks for reading.
#796 Ely
PORTLAND ROCK CONCERT
I’m near Portland. In fact I was in Portland, OR that day, not to see O. I know the waterfront and was there when John Kerry came in 2004. If they said, 75K, then there were that many there. The concert brought them in, I’m sure, but living near Portland, I can tell you that there aren’t many PUMAs nearby. Some posted here early on and I haven’t seen them since the first few days. Portland has the flagship station for AirAmerica and progressive radio has taken over Hannity here for the last two years. There’s a lot of anti-war sentiment in Oregon as well as there Oregon National Guard has been on the front lines of Iraq ever since the war began. Rural Oregon is heavily Republican, but Bush has done that in big time. Between the high tech, Intel, and Nike home base, plus all the colleges and the environmental/green base here, O fit right in. Portland has always been a Dem base so 75k it was for “both” the concert and O. Sorry to burst your bubble
P.S. to piepie
I saw once, some political news, relating to gaming of course, on Gamespot’s site (It’s where I get my gaming news) so I think it might be a good idea to keep an eye out for. Depending on how the comments sound those might be a good place to casually mention PUMA. These articles don’t happen very often but when they do happen it might be something to consider. Good idea? Bad idea?
Got it #821 UT rocks…yeah!
OK. I’m just getting back. What is “hookum”?
Sorry…I had to leave quickly for something. I hope I did not ignore anyone.
I do think Hillary is a secret PUMA and views the comments on this site.
Tomorrow, Sunday Am is weekly news shows; Stephanopoulis, McLaughlin Report, Meet the Press,
Fareed Zacaria. Good night y’all.
OMG its almost 2 AM, I have to say goodnight, my parents will be upset that I was up so late blogging
See everyone tomorrow
The negative for me was that Austin went for Barack and I had to lick a spot at Kyle Field on a bet because College Station went in big numbers for Hillary. I had it coming. Character before pride!
#823 Jeremy
MURAL
Thanks for the post #s. Interesting investigation. I follow your line of thinking. Some things are best left alone. Do we really need the photo on the action center in due respect to the owner? Just a question, not a must or anything like that.
#827antifish,
It’s a Texas thing.
#828 matt2008A
We forgive you.
And there’s no doubt in my mind really that she, and BHO read some of the comments on this site. BHO and the DNC are scared of us as we are growing so quickly and Hillary does need some positive energy so what better place than one crammed full of her supporters? 
Night Matt. See yah tomorrow.
Welcome back antifish!
matt,
I agree. I think Hillary looks in on us every day!
Antifish, You’re awake…….:-)
Good night Matt. Thanks for the good work and the nice chat.
Thanks Inu!
Goodnight Matt!
Yes, halligan!
#827 antifish
“hookem horns” is the battle cry for us that are grads from the University of Texas of fan of UT. Got to remember that everyone is not Texan…LOL!
antifish… you scared me
Antifish,
I thought maybe you fell asleep at your computer.
revise= or fan
#827 sherry,
OK, all my exes live in Texas. Almost literally, but I don’t know what hookum means. Please do tell!
#843 Jeremy
“Got to remember that everyone is not Texan…LOL!”
And I have to remind myself that anyone is actually Texan. ; p
I hope she views the comments on this site.
To clarify, I wasn’t talking about using Skype for “good mornings” etc. Just for locally organizing things that we don’t want our personal information on the blog. As for the phone number issue, no it doesn’t ask for your phone number, and the name you put on there is what it uses. It does not need to be your given name. I find it works better than email because you don’t have to spend days waiting for a response.
To add a contact, go up to “Tools” and Add Contact, and then you type in the persons Skype name. Mine is “padempuma”.
I think the community building here is important too, and why is the blog moving so slowly today?
antifish- See #843 Jeremy explains it.
#806 halligan on 07.06.08 at 1:36 am, WROTE,
[[ #784 Cosmeta
KINESTHETIC LEARNING
Use to teach kindergarten students their letters by drawing on the windows and in the sandbox. It was so good for them to feel their learning. But now with all the state testing, kinesthetic learning is considered “play”, not academics. But we all know that “play” is like work for children and its their best way to learn. ]]
Wow! What a shame. Play isn’t just work to children (as you so aptly stated), they are rehearshing what it might feel like someday to be that mommy or daddy or truck driver. It’s prepretory, me thinks.
What I found interesting (for myself is/was) no one taught me to do those things… I did it myself; so I was many years ahead of the curve. Then about 7-10 years ago I read a book on how to improve you memory, and this author used some of those same principles of mind association. He remembered whole phone books.
[[Before I retired, I taught middle school students and we were teaching them with a kinesthetic approach (mainly because we were dealing with a lot of students who spoke English as a second language). Lots of movement, motion, drawing, cutting, anything to let them feel their way through the language jungle.]]
That is so Kool. But you know what… for someone like me… English will always be my second language. And the only reason I find so much joy in the Internet is because of that little old send button because I can react. If I take the time to reread my post or fix typos, I am so terribly embarrassed that I delete it. Never could write real letters because I would tear them up. So the internet is a great tool for youngsters to help overcome their fears.
#847 antifish
“OK, all my exes live in Texas.”
Lucky. All my exes are scattered about… I have to peek around corners before proceeding. ; )
#726 matt2008A
Based on what Matt said here and what I saw on the FOX report of the youth vote — I’ve come to some personal conclusions. First — people are people no matter what age or background, meaning there will be some young that idolize BO but others that will give equal support to McCain, and others (as they have in the past) that will be too self involved with what is going on in their life to care about voting. I further think that as always, the media plays up the youth vote as being solidly for Obama — but I think the discerning ones see through him just as we do. Obama relies on ignorance to get him in the whitehouse and so the key is in educating.
I also believe that if we all do as we’ve been doing in trying to get the word out — it will trickle into the youth group… and don’t underestimate word of mouth from that point forward.
Personally, my own children respect my opinion on politics and while they might be tired of my obsession with what’s been going on in this election year — I’m confident that they do get that BO is not the person for the job. I also suspect (but can’t prove) that they talk to their friends and spread the word. I suspect this because even though my son tells me he doesn’t want to hear anymore about politics… every once in a while he will come home (from a night out with friends) and ask a question about something that happened recently with BO. I know he’s asking because his friends must have brought it up and he wants to give an informed opinion and knows I’m a good source for this.
So while I might be blabbering and don’t have a clear point to make — you might say that it’s best to plant the seed and then back off but still be available if the seed needs nurturing.
#845 sherry,
No actually, I was letting my son shop for a videocam for me to take to Denver. That’s why I wasn’t blogging. He was using the computer.
#764 Inu
PUPPET
Looking at it from your viewpoint, yes, I agree. I’m hoping you’re correct because then O will implode a little faster.
#849 pa dem SKYPE
‘To add a contact, go up to “Tools” and Add Contact, and then you type in the persons Skype name. Mine is “padempuma”.”
Mine is DancesWithPumas
Was someone wanting a copy of Hllary’s letter to superdelegates? Anyway it is here:
http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=674#comment-180462
#832 halligan~I have no control who puts those pics up. I know several of us locals were discussing this and some sent others pics. Now it is there. But anyone can google tag words and get many pics and comments.
MZebest,
Hello,
I agree that all the youth are not voting for Obama. My son can’t stand him but he just won’t take the time to go vote.
#851 Cosmeta
INSIGHT
Thanks, Cosmeta, for the insight. I’m a life-long learner and your sharing has given me more food for thought.
#339 Fred
Thank You for all the work you are doing
#852 Dances,
I feel for you. All my exes are all over the world. What a life I’ve led!
#857 turndownobama HILLARY’S LETTER TO SD
‘This Account Has Exceeded Its CPU Quota’
#858 Jeremy
PICTURE
Are you comfortable with the picture on the site? If you are, then its okay with me. If you aren’t, then tell Murphy.
#854antifish,
I bet you are getting excited about going to Denver. Have you ever protested before?
PA DEM SKYPE
You just scared the heck out of me. I actually flinched when the skype window came “toward” me. I don;t know how to use it so I was sitting here, like an idiot, saying “hello” to the air.
#806 halligan…
If playtime is to be disregarded, then why is it that so much attention is given to boys who when they grow up will become major league baseball players, etc. ???
Doing away with KINESTHETIC LEARNING just seems lop-sided to me. What a shame. But I do thank you, because here I am age 62 and I didn’t know there was a name for it. THANX
Also… this is going back some 30 years or so when my 5 year old son and his playmate had this secret language. One day as his friend was running past a table with a newspaper on it, he started to read it out loud back to me. And I said to his mother: Do you KNOW that your son is a genius. Well… little did I know that the secret language he and my son had would become INTERNET SPEAK. They were years ahead of their time.
Antifish
Are you really anti fish? Do you have something against fish? Allergy maybe?
Well, I’ve just got to say one thing. I love Texas! I’m from GA, but I got to live in TX for a year when I was in the Army and I loved everyday of it.
Nite now…
#859 texassherry
Then he fits into that category that the Republicans don’t worry about. The statistics must be true that many youth do not bother to vote. They even mentioned this on the FOX report but just didn’t spend a large portion of the show discussing it. So again — as I said, I think the media is putting way too much weight in Obama’s chances with the youth vote.
My computer is running slow and keeps locking up tonight so I am going to call it quits before I throw it.
Good night ya’ll
#864 halligan
PICTURE
Honestly, it doesn’t bother me one way or the other. Information is access to more information and that is what empowers us.
Dances: Ah, did you do the Skype test call yet?
The green button by your contacts with the phone on it is the “call”–which is computer to computer unless you give it a phone #. Computer to computer is free, but requires a mic.
The blue with the talk bubble inside it is “chat”
I knew World Of Warcraft would come in handy someday
night Texassherry and Hookem a good sleep!
Thought this might be of interest:
I ahd heard a week ago that Hillary’s campaign was taking down all of her Primary videos on youtube.
I went there and the only ones viewable was her susoension speech, the Hillary I Know” and two others (cannot remember those).
Today, I heard that all (200 + I think) of her Primary campaign videos are back on line at her HillaryClinton.com youtube account.
I went there and it’s true – they are ALL there again.
I thought it an interesting turn of events, since last week.
#825 InuHanyou1701
Mm..but you’d probably get more Anti-Hillary people than Pro-Hillary. Hillary fought for tougher regulations for games…it was one of the few issues that I disagreed with her on.
antifish
did you decide on a video camera?
360 BillieJo
I am with you BilliJo, I rather stay home, but after being campaigning for Hillary in California, Nevada and Texas I don’t feel I can vote for McCain. Even though I appreciated the fact that he always treated her with respect.
#868 halligan,
Yes, I live in a very remote village in north Georgia. We have been inundated by fish that can walk. They actually have broken into our homes and taken over our televisions so they can watch Obama concerts. It is the most disturbing phenomenon I’ve ever witnessed.
#872 texassherry
Good night! Have PUMA dreams! (Was that corny…?
)
#877 piepiepie75
This is an excellent point. I hadn’t considered that.
#867 Cosmeta
TYPES OF LEARNING
Everything cycles through every 20 years or more in education. Kinesthetic learning will be back sooner than we expect, but it’ll just be called something else. I’ve spent 40 years of my life in education and I can tell you that things are recycling faster than ever. Research on the brain and how one learns is changing approaches to learning faster than ever. The unfortunate part, is that education as an institution can not keep up with the research. It takes a teacher 4 to 7 years of training and by that time, research changes everything that we learned. That’s why its so important for yearly training and application for all teachers. Money is another item that rules the change. Training takes money and so does application. Its just a vicious circle at times and the students get caught in the circle. They have 12 years to learn (that’s not much time) and the pace of change is so rapid that sometimes we forget to “take the time” to observe and “play”.
#878 Dances,
Actually no, not yet. Do you have some input?
#880 antifish
*Laughs* Nice one. That made both my friend and I laugh for a good minute.
Good night texassherry! Puma power!
To All PUMAS
Night all. I’m just into philosophical stuff tonight. Not much fun. Thanks to all for another stimulating evening. Keep the PUMA growl going. My rhubarb crisp dish is empty and its past 11 PDT.
#880 Antifish
BEST LAUGH YET
Now I really can have sweet dream. Thanks for the greatest laugh yet. Night.
#886 halligan
Goodnight halligan!
#884 Inu,
If we couldn’t laugh, life wouldn’t be worth living.
good night halligan and all!
New update and overnight post above. The puma watching over us tonight is from a sign often seen all over Colorado, including Denver!
Be wonderful to each other — Tomorrow is another day!
#887 Nite halligan!
#695 Csuzeq,
What an interesting movie about election fraud. Some of the things we don’t expect would happen here in America…such as the voting machines being easily hackable and vulnerable to being infected with viruses, or the vote flipping where people voted for one candidate but their vote went to their candidate’s opponent instead! Can you imagine voting against *61 just to have your vote go right to him?! But like the person at the end of the movie says, high turn out can overcome the margin of the manipulation.
#748 Sandipuma,
“well at least Mccain is a Patriot. and i will not pay a penny to go see the movie they are making of Obumbus unless it’s one showing him under the bus and his GrandMother driving it.”
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You are killing me here. ROFL
#883 antifish VIDEO CAMERA
no, I don’t have any recommendations. You might want to truy cnet.com for comparisons.
Please come upstairs!
# 505 Billie Jo, It is eight dollars per night to camp at the Cherry something campground, its beautiful. I am going on a wing and a prayer, I will be lucky to have fifty bucks to bring with me, but go I will, I feel it is something I must do. Also, I haven’t heard if we will be allowed to sleep on the buses if we cant get a campsite.
# 600 Trish, hey whatever gets you through the night, and it could also help with your pain. Isnt it legal in Canada anyway?
# 859 My kids too have voted for Hillary, and they will again in November!!!
Murphy, any idea how many of us have signed up so far to go to Denver?
My nine year old son will be selling lemonade with me this week so I can have some money for Denver! Bless His Heart, he loves his mommy.
I am beyond excited to go to Denver, it will be one of the highlights of my life, and I am proud to be one of many to represent the Pumas!
One Love
RE; 190 ANNA7000 HIS GREY HAIR IS PROB. COMING FROM ALL THOSE WHITE LIES HES BEEN TELLING LOL
OH NO HE WILL PROB. CALL THE WHITE IN HIS HAIR RACIST LOL
TREE
ARENT YOU MY NEIGHBOR ?? IN KERN COUNTY RIGHT I THINK I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME THAT??
DONT WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU ARE A SUPPORTER FROM ALMOST DAY ONE
AND I HAVE BEEN THREW ALOT OF THINGS TOO ,BUT YOU WILL PREVAIL BECAUSE GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND HE DOSENT PUT MORE ON US THAN WE CAN BEAR !!!!!!!!!! STAY STRONG
was posted at Overnight Updates!
#102 murphy…MURPHY IS RIGHT…. A MUST READ….
…………POUND THE PAWS PUMAS………..
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
WHAT’S THE DAYS TO BE IN DENVER…..should it be in phase with the workings of the power spot for HILLARY
and her delegates to use at the convention…. OUR power that we are there….to PUT their DAMAND to BE heard…
HILLARY is to be the NEXT PRESIDENT of the USA!!!!
just something to be ponder…….that’s very important!!!
supporting their move
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