Good Morning, Pumas. Today is a new day!
Denver Reminder: Step One of Puma PAC’s planning for Denver is now underway. We will be posting updates and details OFTEN over the next week, so don’t fret. First, if you are interested in joining us in Denver, please send an email today to gotodenver@pumapac.org. Please include the following info: Your real name; your blog user name if you have one; the closest major city and your state; how many in your party; and very important: whether you are DEFINITELY going, might be going, want to go but have problems. ALSO, PLEASE PLEASE include your cell phone number. Obviously we will only call you if absolutely necessary and would NEVER give the number away; this is a safety precaution. IMPORTANT: Puma PAC cannot provide housing. We will be providing links and tips for accommodations, but housing all the Pumas is beyond our scope. We WILL help people get there. Please let us know in your email HOW you plan to get to Denver: car, plane, train, bus, or Puma PAC bus. We will do our VERY BEST to help everyone get there. Friends and family members WELCOME!
Remember to Join Puma PAC if you haven’t already. JOIN HERE
Contribute to the BUSES TO DENVER FUND (suggested donation is $10 or $20)
New CNN Poll says 46% of Clinton supporters won’t vote for Obama. And, “In another sign the wounds of the heated primary race have yet to heal, 43 percent of registered Democrats polled still say they would prefer Clinton to be the party’s presidential nominee. That number is significantly higher than it was in early June, when 35 percent of Democrats polled said they preferred Clinton to lead the party’s presidential ticket.” Click here.
409 comments ↓
Good morning.
Good Morning Pumas. I left this downstairs but will repost here.
I got this from Hillary Clinton news. — For legal reasons ~ please fill out this form so that your money will be redirected appropriately. Otherwise your monies donated to http://www.hillaryclinton.com may be returned in time. GO TO: http://www.hillarycampaign2008.com ~ FILL OUT THE FORM. PLEASE GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/2008/07/alert-if-you-have-donated-please-read.html
I’m a little confused as to why this form would be going out rather than the one to retire her debt. I just printed out the retire the debt form and mailed it to Maggie Williams regarding a $25 check I mailed to the campaign office on 6/29 without any form. When I contributed the $20.08 yesterday, I did use the proper form for retiring the debt. What’s going on?
No one here yet except me and Snowtiger. Must be sleeping in!
Hopefully. They can use some rest, evreyone here seems to be pushing the envelope and I’m here cause I have to go to work.
.
Have a great day.
Keep feeding the pumas.
When I donated there was a box to check, it said it was to retire her debt, so I am leaving it at that rather then redirect to 2012
Hope it’s not a bait and switch. Is it possible her debt got retired and she’s using the rest for 2012? I doubt it.
I guess any thing is possible but I doubt it too. They just said on fox no name wants to give his acceptance speech at mile high stadium, I hope he isn’t to dissapointed when Hillary makes the acceptance speech.
SuggestionDENVER:
- This year’s Convention may be frought with turbulence and even violence so using the BUDDY SYSTEM is imperative. As the bible says, go two-by-two; a policy that PUMA should promote.
- SPONSOR A PUMA: Donate Money $xyz (amount to be determined by Murphy or the person in charge of bus arrangements) so that another PUMA can go in your place should you not be able to go yourself. In return, the two are matched by way of email address… and perhaps if the person going has a camera they can take pictures to email or snail mail to their Sponsor.
Note: If you can Murphy, ask your webmaster to create a 120×240 banner to be placed on your sidebar for easy access.
- DOCUMENTATION: Documenting the event will be important as most if not all the media will probably be in or near the Convention site and demonstrators behind a fenced in area. So every PUMA that attends the event with a cell phone should take pictures… every PUMA with a digital camera should take pictures for upload to the Action Center Gallery of images; and every PUMA without a cellphone and/or without a digital camera should get at least one of those portable cameras.
Each PUMA PAC CELL should be assigned a pac leader; and each pac leader should have direct cellphone contact with someone who is at home watching on C-Span so that they can get minute-by-minute reports as to what is taking place *inside* of the Convention itself.
Note: Those not in attendence could be made to feel a part of the event even if they cannot attend; for they are PUMA also.
I went back to the contribution page and read where I checked the box and it deffinately says it is for her 2008 debt retirement so I am not filling out a new form
#10, I’m not either; however, I’m still questioning why that message is being sent.
Great ideas cosmeta. Theres no way I’m going to make it to Denver and maybe I can scrape up enough to send someone else. Or maybe we can set up a target amount for someone who has the time to go and work it that way as well. Use multiple donors. Kinda of a pack o’ pumas.
Well I’m off to work now, Have a great day all.:)
I feel if they really do return it which I don’t think they will, then I can donate to 2012 not now.
good moning everyone
Good Morming
Re: A Man of Seasonal Principles
By Charles Krauthammer Friday, July 4, 2008
“Obama’s seasonally adjusted principles are beginning to pile up: NAFTA, campaign finance reform, warrantless wiretaps, flag pins, gun control. What’s left?”
It’s really quiet this morning
Link for #16
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR2008070302451.html
MR flip flop
Good Morning Pumpas - I feel we might have a surprise or two today - just a dream last night - also the year of the WOMEN - both Williams sisters playing each other in Wimbleton - Go Williams - Go Hillary.
Alucard Rodham Puma
I have a good feeling today also. I also see Hillary as the nom in Denver
#17 mijabsnji. Everyone sleeping in, last night’s blog was busy though.
I donated my $20.08 to Hillary and my $5.44 to McCain.
Just received an e-mail thank you from Hillary. It said …”we are at a critical stage in our campaign….must do everything to help Hillary win…”
Nothing about paying down the debt or BO.
Anyone else get this message?
I missed last night we had a big celebration at my house and I am the only one up
Morning PUMAs…
I did
Re: “Inconvenient Truth” filmmaker Davis Guggenheim involved in Obama convention video. July 4 Obama film shoot in Butte, Montana
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/
“The pool was told repeatedly that Sen. Obama was merely doing a video shoot
for the campaign’s new media department, a routine operation. But Aliesh, hired by Essence to do makeup, tipped your pool off that Obama was accompanied by a famous film maker, as part of a film shoot for the
Democratic National Committee and the convention. Obama entered the mansion at 5:45. He re-emerged at 6:43, with a stylish film maker in tow and a crew
carrying a film camera, NOT the small digital cameras.”
Good morning, Pumas! I am going to be with the little dragonflies today, but I will be thinking of all of you and how much I admire your strength and dedication.
I also see Hillary as the nominee in Denver.
By the way, I followed the link above to the CNN article and Bill Schneider is quoted as saying some foolish things about us and about Bill Clinton. Puma responders, I don’t know if there is a way to comment on it, but if so, please do! We are not simply stuck in the stages of grief. Bill Clinton is not a racist. He does not need to just “get over it.”
Okay, off to my little ones. Have a beautiful day.
Dragonfly Rodham Puma
good morning all. I was amused reading about our golden boy trying to get the independants. I wonder if he has any idea of how many of them were dems. and moved over cause of him. Hahah
I am so glad those of us that cannt go will have a side by you account. I think this is so important and want you all to be careful.Cosmeta great ideas I will help however I can.
We could maybe do something calling bommy a third Bush term.!! he is adopting so many Bush ideas-more than McCain
I laugh my butt off everytime they mention the independent vote, they have no clue ha ha ha ha
#23 doria
Can you paste the e-mail here please?
#23 doria
Following is the email I got after donating yesterday:
Thank you for your generous contribution. We are at a critical
stage in the campaign, and our online supporters like you are
making the difference. The more people we reach, the more resources
we will have to help Hillary win. Send an email to your friends and
family asking them to support our campaign by making a contribution
at http://www.hillaryclinton.com/joinme
If you have any questions about your contribution please contact us at
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
have to go for a bit see ya soon.tcb4n
This is interesting, wonder how Bo will spin it.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080704/usa/iraq_us_military
#33 hillaryistheone
Thank you, that’s good news, I assume it means Hillary has not given up the ghost
43% of registered Dems not wanting Bo is quite a large number. The man has no substance an people are finally realizing it.
Good morning PUMAs! Declaration Day II is up at my blog, offering tips for our real world citizen action tomorrow. And Sunday is the puuuuurfect day to play Martin Luther to Pope Obama.
Trish, I thought it was 46% of Hillary Clinton voters? That’s 8.3 million voters, for the record…
Bo flipflopping on Abortion rights concerning the mental health of those seeking one.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-sounding.html
Good Morning Pumas!
I had an idea while I was staring at the ceiling last night in my insomniac phase:
How would you feel about leaning HARD on the DNC to release ALL Delegates and Super Delegates from their endorsements and let them vote in secret in August?
I think that would be one way to really throw a kink in Denver!
#39 annabelle
Yes, you’re correct, 46% was registered dems, I had to go back up and check that.
#41 Maryland PUMA
Nice, I love that idea, get back to square one
Cosmeta, GREAT ideas. I can’t wait to go. I’ll volunteer to do whatever you folks need me to do.
I do have a question. I’m trying to organize for people to take pictures of their citizen action on the Declaration tomorrow. I didn’t know that you all had a photo gallery. I was going to try to find a photo hosting site to build a community album, but I wonder if we should just use the one here? I have no idea how to go about coordinating that, but thought you might provide some insights? Thanks!
Maryland….oh nice….how hard would you be talking?
PumaResponders response item:
h t t p : / / isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/04/1640057-both-left-and-right-pile-on-obama#comments
About 50 comments so far. Pretty simple site to post at.
—————————–
To join PumaResponders email list, email 1950democrat/at/gmail/com
#27 Ha! Are you SERIOUS? Film shoot in Butte? Do you know what Butte is most famous for? During the latter half of the 19th Century, it was the US capital for whores. Yes, prostitution. How apt.
hey trish, goalucard, dragonfly, cosmeta, and everyone!
If you’ve sent me email and i havent yet replied I will be doing so today — was actually away from the computer yesterday for 5 solid hours in a row, so the inbox is brimming.
Cosmeta, great ideas.
Did you all check out the CNN poll at the top? Obama’s support among DEMOCRATS has been sliding FAST in the last month. very interesting. esp when taken with hillaryistheone #33
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/04/clinton.poll/index.html
Good Morning PUMA’s.
#42 TrishfromCanada on 07.05.08 at 9:54 am
#39 annabelle
Yes, you’re correct, 46% was registered dems, I had to go back up and check that.
—————————————————–
I think the article said both 46% of Hillary supporters AND 46% of registered Dems. Perhaps they goofed.
Jy 5, 2008 There has been an update to the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll I posted prevously. The figure currently quoted for Hillary supporters refusing to vote for Obama is 46% or 9 million, an increase of 2 million from last month’s poll.
Note this is not an online poll but a poll taken in the real world outside the internet.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/04/clinton.poll/index.html?iref=werecommend
Poll: 43 percent of Dems still say they want Clinton as the party’s nominee
Number of Clinton supporters who plan to defect to McCain is down
[ This story does not say how far down the Mc ]Cain group is. Knowing MSM, it could be like a fraction of a point down.
In a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey completed in early June before the New York senator ended her White House bid, 60 percent of Clinton backers polled said they planned on voting for Obama. In the latest poll, that number has dropped to 54 percent.
43 percent of registered Democrats polled still say they would prefer Clinton to be the party’s presidential nominee. That number is significantly higher than it was in early June, when 35 percent of Democrats polled said they preferred Clinton to lead the party’s presidential ticket. [....]
Obama won 59 percent of support from registered Democrats polled in June; now he garners 54 percent.
Have I misread something? Oddly, this seems to say that both 46% of HIllary supporters AND 46% of registered Democrats will not support Obama.
Anyway, 46% is up from last month’s 39% of Hillary supporters, which was 7 million. 46% of Hillary’s 18 million supporters would be more like 9 million.
“These things always take time to heal,” said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst. “I think Clinton’s supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them.”
HUH? think this one has not been paying attention…:0
**** PUMA ALERT ******
PUMAs strive to be inclusive of all people who are dissatisfied with the political process.
I’ve been receiving emails from a lot of centrist Republicans for Hillary who do not feel welcome on our blogs due to some of the negativity toward Republicans.
There were MANY crossover votes for Hillary, and they weren’t all Limbaugh Operation Chaos voters.
Based on the emails I’m getting, I believe we are striking a chord with ALL voters - regardless of party.
We’re doing a good job including everyone in spite of our explosive growth. We’re being heard.
Remember, our first mission as a PAC is NObama. Be you Republican, Democrat, Green, Yellow, or Red - if you say NObama, you are welcome in our Pride.
MarylandPUMA
Sulk? Is he farking serious? Sulk? Fighting corruption and injustice is NOWHERE NEAR sulking! Grrrrrrr.
Been gone from the site for several days, but recruiting everywhere. Wearing my Hillary pin everyday. When someone talks to me about it, I give them the PUMA website.
Not sure about the secret ballot vote. It might be too easy to violate the ballots. Slip Obama ballots in place of Hillary ballots. The live announcement of delegates is hard to dispute. I’m much more concerned about the DNC trying to negate some of Hillary’s delegates. How can this be legal. They were voted in by us at least in Maryland they were.
They were talking on Baltimore radio this morning that some think Obama will be worse than Bush. That his primary platforms copied Hillary so he could get the vote, but now that he looks to be the candidate he is reversing on many issues (DUH?)
#41 Maryland Puma
Good Morning to you, too!
I don’t think it’s a good idea to do ANYTHING in SECRET when it comes to the DNC. I just don’t trust any of them after May 31, especially if they have deep pockets. I think it’s best to know who we need to deal with in November, if Hillary doesn’t become the nominee. BUT, of course, I visualize that she will be.
Have a beautiful day everyone.
greta
‘Morning Murphy!
#43 Trish & #46 Dawn
I’m taking Firebelle’s ‘non-combative’ inspiration and seeing a flood of phone calls, emails and letters to delegates, super delegates, DNC, media, and the world.
Release the delegates and superdelegates from their endorsements. Allow them to go back to their districts and voters and regroup. Do not pressure them. Let them take responsibility for the role they were assigned to play - be the voice of the voters they represent.
I believe this could be a good compromise for both sides. Hillary and Edwards are still candidates - neither has withdrawn.
I’m also open to suggestions.
I posted this yesterday on the story “Some Clinton supporters still not embracing Obama, poll says” as you can see my comment is STILL awaiting moderation???
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
LOL, CNN why don’t you post our comments????? You would rather post the comments of paid Obama bloggers!!! How can we trust you anymore CNN. You were the ‘most trusted name in news” Now you are a paid pawn for Obama!!!
LMAO, Bill Schneider doesn’t know his donkey from a hole in the ground. We are not waiting for Obama to pick Hillary, we don’t want Obama to pick Hillary. Either way, we wlll NOT vote for Obama…don’t you people get it????? We don’t want Obama, no way, no how!!!
Marylandpuma-You are confusing me. I thought we were Democrats or at least Democrats during the primary that were fighting the DNC. With all due respect to the Republicans I would be afraid that if we have them on the sites there would be more bickering because of the difference in beliefs. Obama supporters have been saying all along that we were Repubicans. and we have been arguing that we are not. I think we need to repost what Pumas stand for and our mission so that people understand who we are and what we stand for.
I guess secret was the wrong word. I meant their choice would be revealed at the floor vote in Denver.
Good Morning Pumas! Buenos Dias! The CNN poll which we know is no friend of the Clintons shows that Hillary supporters are slowly but surely waking up and saying No Deal, we won’t accept nor vote for a bad substitute of a perfect candidate.
I have a feeling that the tide will change before the convention and if it doesn’t the DNC is on its way to a defeat in the general election.
This has been an historic campaign and it may still have a surprising and joyous ending for our candidate.
In order to achieve this end Pumas must continue roaring and reaching out to Hillary supporters every opportunity we have.
I have just posted a reference to the Convention move to my own website,
http://www.cosmeta.com/_Forums/view_topic.php?id=1346&forum_id=57
And place my link here only as a matter of convenience to me. And because I also have to tend to my own site besides posting here. :o)
Whatever the reason, I’m happy to click the link and give you traffic, Cosmeta. Going to check it out now…
I probably will not be able to go to Denver. Altitude and I just don’t get along and the medicine makes it worse. But I will be more than happy to contribute to a fund to help others go. What a great idea.
good morning Murphy, You’re forgiven for leaving us here all alone to fend for ourselves. You deserved the break
#58 hillaryistheone: I agree 100% with you. My comments on CNN rarely pass the moderation stage. Especially when I say they should be ashamed of themselves and should elect Jack Cafferty as President of the “Women Haters Club”.
CNN is just another public relations agency of BHO. Shame, Shame on you Wolf, Cafferty and the worst political team of TV.
#16 mcr on 07.05.08 at 9:02 am, WROTE,
[[ “Obama’s seasonally adjusted principles are beginning to pile up: NAFTA, campaign finance reform, warrantless wiretaps, flag pins, gun control. What’s left?”]]
Mr Krauthammer might also have added, BHO has a *history* of elliminating his opponents unscrupulous means. And by that I do mean, besides his Chicago style politics he uses tactics used by his Kenyan relatives to use a cout de ta and overthrow their rivals.
And THAT is not change I can believe in.
Or promote.
#57 Maryland PUMA
“Release the delegates and superdelegates from their endorsements. Allow them to go back to their districts and voters and regroup.”
I like how you worded that, my first thought was “release the hounds. PUMA’s are more than ready for the battle”
MURPHY…. NOBODY DIED… I AM PSYCHED OUT… NO ONE IS GOING TO TELL ME THIS IS BECAUSE I AM SO DISAPPOINTED!!!!…. I am mad… I am hopping mad that they think that they can bamboozle the american public with this simplistic explanation of why we are rebelling and just saying “NObama”. They just don’t get it that its righteous indignation at a corrupt DNC and their “chosen” one… Don’t fall for that psychology crap… remember why we are here and the words of Patrick Henry… he didn’t rebel because he was “dead” disappointed!!!
“It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ”
WE will not shut up and sit down!!!
We will not “JUST GET OVER IT”.
WE WILL OVERCOME!!!!
GO PUMAS!!!!
Hillary 2008!!!
#23 doria, that was the same message that I got when I contributed yesterday.
#50 turndownobama
Earlier this week someone posted a poll showing Bo and McCain evening off in the polls. THe article stated the Bo was picking up Hillary supporters. But I meant to post about this and question, if Bo dropped 4% in that poll and McCain rose 2% (I believe I am recaling those numbers correctly for that poll) how can the media claim Bo was picking up Hillary supporters. Because with a 4% drop my question is, if he is indeed picking up Hillary supports then he is losing part of his own support base. And are they going over to McCain or laying dormant. Would be good to know because that will give us 4% or so of ex-Bo fans to work with.
I don’t have the link to that posting but I’m pretty sure I’m remembering it correctly.
If this is the case, we need to find out what % of supporters are moving away from Bo and how do we reach out to them.
# 52 Maryland
Not all of us were with Hillary at the start. I began this process with a preference for any of 3 candidates: Kuccinich, Ron Paul, and Nader. Because I always follow campaigns closely ( local as well as national ) I watched the debates. The defining moment for me was when BO made that immortal statement; “you’re likable enough”. His dismissive attitude caused my PUMA ears to perk up and from that time on I listened very very carefully to not only his words but also his delivery of them. His attitude towards Hillary was at all times infantalizing, dismissive and patronizing, and the feminist in me began to howl. That even in the 21st century opposing candidates, the media, and the DNC believe they can treat a female candidate with such disrespect caused to to head for the nearest scratching post in preparation for the fight to follow. I take the insults and disparagement of Hillary PERSONALLY. It reminds me of so so many times throughout my life when I have witnessed or been the object of similar treatment.
Therefore:
I will NOT vote for a Democrat, ANY DEMOCRAT, until the political atmosphere in the DNC changes.
I will not smile and applaud cause MAYBE my daughters will have an easier time of it.
And NO, I are not going to support the changeling because THEY say there’s a bogeyman out there who might be worse. I’ve heard that before.
The difference this time is the I-net. In previous periods of frustration I would have been howling and growling at the moon alone . . . this time I have a pride. The 1st night this blog went live I signed on and have been purring happily ever since. Together we are louder than our individual voices, and when we issue our collective roar, the opposition becomes very pale and shakey.
They would love to dismiss us but we are growing by leaps and bounds. Hill must be relaxing, recouperating, and licking her wounds while chuckleling.
And NO, we’re not going to reward the DNC, the media,
or the corporate sponsers for misogony. We welcome all who share in our mission to improve our country so that it can achieve it’s full potential. “Now it’s on to Denver and let’s win there.” (courtesy of RFK )
Good morning PUMAs!!!
Murphy and everyone, thank you for fighting on!! And here is my donation for the Denver buses!!!
This email confirms that you have donated $10.00 USD to Puma PAC (murphy@pumapac.org) using PayPal.
——————————————————————————–
Donation Details
Confirmation number: 8L662982CU7628337
Donation amount: $10.00 USD
Total: $10.00 USD
Purpose: BUSES TO DENVER
Contributor: xxxxxxxxxxx
——————————————————————————–
Go Pumas!!!
Have a great weekend everyone!!!
Maria in NJ
I haven’t posted for a while, but I have been lurking. We have got to stop Obama!
FOX news Cavuto business said they have a story coming up on Obama’s sweet mortgage deal and “could it cost him the White House?”
If we could just get CNN to come a round, too. Don’t they care about ratings?
Annabelle #53, right on!
The sexism is SO deep it is often hard to fathmom!
Sulking? Grieving? WTF!
If y’all are interested (which I wager to bet you are), the Chicago Sun Times released some documents from the Rezko trial that show how deep Obama is in this and my hope that he is indicted in the Operation Board Games upcoming trial. PUMAs must show this stuff to everyone you know. It is real, not an internet rumor! I am showing people who are just shocked the MSM does not tell us any of this stuff. Here is the link and Obama mention starts on page 17:
http://www.suntimes.com/images/cds/MP3/prosobama.pdf
Re. Clinton & Obama fundraise in NYC tis week
http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/05/clinton-obama-to-fundraise-in-nyc/
“They will also attend a breakfast at the New York Hilton and Towers held by Women for Obama and the DNC Women’s Leadership Forum.”
“Obama camp officials believe Clinton’s fundraisers could raise $50 to $75 million for him in the coming weeks.”
umyvfxg
mcr, #79, you know what we say to that:
DREAM ON!
you gotta sing it like Steven Tyler though.
#78 csuzeq, thanks for the link to the PDF there. I will be reviewing that info this afternoon or tomorrow.
oops, #80 was roxylikepuma (the 7yo)
#78 csuzeq
I like how Rod Blagovelich, ok I know i’m crucifying the name, is mentioned as well. That church Obama did is copy and paste speech on Father’s Day is Rod’s church. Thicker than theives, the lot of them.
Re:The Denver Group: Keeping the Democratic Party democratic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQ1I0jOAu8
EDITORIAL - seems even the N.Y. times is back pedaling all…….
1. New and Not Improved Published: July 4, 2008 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/opinion/04fri1.html
Senator Barack Obama stirred his legions of supporters, and raised our hopes, promising to change the old order of things. He spoke with passion about breaking out of the partisan mold of bickering and catering to special pleaders, promised to end President Bush’s abuses of power and subverting of the Constitution and disowned the big-money power brokers who have corrupted Washington politics. Now there seems to be a new Barack Obama on the hustings. First, he broke his promise to try to keep both major parties within public-financing limits for the general election. His team explained that, saying he had a grass-roots-based model and that while he was forgoing public money, he also was eschewing gold-plated fund-raisers. These days he’s on a high-roller hunt.
Even his own chief money collector, Penny Pritzker, suggests that the magic of $20 donations from the Web was less a matter of principle than of scheduling. “We have not been able to have much of the senator’s time during the primaries, so we have had to rely more on the Internet,” she explained as she and her team busily scheduled more than a dozen big-ticket events over the next few weeks at which the target price for quality time with the candidate is more than $30,000 per person.
The new Barack Obama has abandoned his vow to filibuster an electronic wiretapping bill if it includes an immunity clause for telecommunications companies that amounts to a sanctioned cover-up of Mr. Bush’s unlawful eavesdropping after 9/11.
In January, when he was battling for Super Tuesday votes, Mr. Obama said that the 1978 law requiring warrants for wiretapping, and the special court it created, worked. “We can trace, track down and take out terrorists while ensuring that our actions are subject to vigorous oversight and do not undermine the very laws and freedom that we are fighting to defend,” he declared.
Now, he supports the immunity clause as part of what he calls a compromise but actually is a classic, cynical Washington deal that erodes the power of the special court, virtually eliminates “vigorous oversight” and allows more warrantless eavesdropping than ever.
The Barack Obama of the primary season used to brag that he would stand before interest groups and tell them tough truths. The new Mr. Obama tells evangelical Christians that he wants to expand President Bush’s policy of funneling public money for social spending to religious-based organizations — a policy that violates the separation of church and state and turns a government function into a charitable donation.
He says he would not allow those groups to discriminate in employment, as Mr. Bush did, which is nice. But the Constitution exists to protect democracy, no matter who is president and how good his intentions may be.
On top of these perplexing shifts in position, we find ourselves disagreeing powerfully with Mr. Obama on two other issues: the death penalty and gun control.
Mr. Obama endorsed the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the District of Columbia’s gun-control law. We knew he ascribed to the anti-gun-control groups’ misreading of the Constitution as implying an individual right to bear arms. But it was distressing to see him declare that the court provided a guide to “reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.”
What could be more reasonable than a city restricting handguns, or requiring that firearms be stored in ways that do not present a mortal threat to children?
We were equally distressed by Mr. Obama’s criticism of the Supreme Court’s barring the death penalty for crimes that do not involve murder.
We are not shocked when a candidate moves to the center for the general election. But Mr. Obama’s shifts are striking because he was the candidate who proposed to change the face of politics, the man of passionate convictions who did not play old political games.
There are still vital differences between Mr. Obama and Senator John McCain on issues like the war in Iraq, taxes, health care and Supreme Court nominations. We don’t want any “redefining” on these big questions. This country needs change it can believe in.
I someone finally noticed the Emperor Has No Clothes?
Or that the empty suit is really the same has no clothes?
There is hope- good to back on line with goanderson, goalucard, (I should have remembered to do golorelai)
oh well, you know who I am - the Ohio lady that will not stop fighting!
#83 murphy
lol everyone and their PUMA wants to have their say!
#74 mpdamon and #76 csuzeq
I am with you mpdamon and csuzeq on stopping Hussein from becoming President. I am so scared though because Hussein keeps leading in the polls, even in a traditionally red state like Montana. This is very scary.
I implore all of you to vote for McCain, no matter how hard that might be. If you sit it out and not vote at all, that practically will be a vote for Obama. A vote for McCain will not be necessarily a vote for him but more a vote AGAINST Obama. If we sit it out, Obama will win this Presidency and will validate all the wrong doings of the DNC.
Ok, Murphy, It’s bad when you draft the kids……. LOL
Not that I haven’t resorted to that lately!
The day Pelosi does her backpeddling (and it will come my fellow PUMA’s) is the day I’ll dance in the streets with such a know-it-all smirk that people will think I’ve gone over the edge
Lorey, #61 — perfectly said!
They are very eye opening!
I have some friends who are obots, but this weekend I challenged them to investigate 1. The state of the housing that Obama helped fund for Rezko to refurbish. 2. The Rezko trial and Obama’s involvement. Then I told them to prove to me none of it is true and also to prove to me where Obama has helped any Americans, other than himself, Michelle, or his corrupt campaign contributers.
I hope they learn something, like how this isn’t all internet rumors. This is a real trial that went on under most American’s noses for 9 weeks! 9 weeks, during the Primary. What other candidate would have had the luxury of all his skeletons being kept quiet????
‘morning, alll-
re: CNN poll. ronkseattle ran an analysis of the poll numbers and concluded (paraphrasing) that Obama would have to find 19 million new voters or garner that many from McCain’s camp, from those who will not vote, and from those who will vote third party in order to win.
44 annabelle on 07.05.08 at 9:56 am, WROTE,
[[ I was going to try to find a photo hosting site to build a community album, but I wonder if we should just use the one here? I have no idea how to go about coordinating that, but thought you might provide some insights? Thanks!]]
I would think the better avenue is to gather the information or gallery here so as not to take people off this site. Each individual would still be free to get their own photo sharing site like myphotoalbum or whatever. Reason being… graphics take up a lot of web space, so best if one or two photos be submitted to this site while the individual can still store tons of photos elsewhere for their own personal use.
If Murphy cannot do it, perhaps on the Action Center site.
#80 Murphy
I thought you were just typing out your anger without actually typing the cuss words :0
re: Schneider’s article. I stopped reading after he said we’re in a stage of grief (see Elizabeth Kuble Ross, MD) and we’d be back, etc.
He also said teh same of President WJ Clinton re: Bill’s coolish behavior toward O. , bill needs to get move on, or get over it.
These folks are so clueless as to be frightening.
Has anyone heard anything else about the Credentials Committee meeting scheduled for the first day of the Convention… or of Geller’s law suit for Florida? Or any other lawsuits that might be out there.
dammit…can’t do smilies…just don’t have the know how for the “old ways”
mpdamon #74 — wow! absolutely. you sound just like me!
“Iron my shirts!” did it for me.
My husband suggested hiring a GoodYear Blip to advertise or sky writing planes.
Murphy-
Good Morning. You have email from me. Thanks
Good Morning Everyone, I am glad *61, is flip-flopping, he also has changed his position on fisa, Iraq, gun control, and NAFTA.
I also, received the letter from Hillary:
Thank you for your generous contribution. We are at a critical
stage in the campaign, and our online supporters like you are
making the difference. The more people we reach, the more resources
we will have to help Hillary win. Send an email to your friends and
family asking them to support our campaign by making a contribution
at http://www.hillaryclinton.com/joinme
If you have any questions about your contribution please contact us at
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
I will never support *61!! Still hoping Hillary is our Candidate for 2008!!
Donated to the buses to Denver–used yesterday’s botton for contributions.
Trish #90, we already know you’ve gone over the edge!
This may anger many of you, but I’m not donating any more money to Hillary. I donated yesterday, reluctantly, to show my support to, and solidarity with, my PUMAs. I do not trust anything anymore when it comes to giving money to the Democrats, of which I am true blue. I will forever support Senator Clinton and pray she is our nominee. I will not vote for Obama in the GE. That’s it for me.
#99 Murphy-
I have always wanted to offer to iron that fool’s shirts for him…with him in them.
cosmeta #100 — great idea!
looking into it.
#106
LOL
headclunker 106
:-0
I’m actually a damn good ironer — one of my few housewifely talents.
My aunt used to iron the sheets because she found it therapeutic. must run in the family.
If a woman had held up a shine “shine my shoes” … media would still be talking about it
texassherry — working my way through my inbox today!
78 csuzeq on 07.05.08 at 10:41 am If y’all are interested (which I wager to bet you are), the Chicago Sun Times released some documents from the Rezko trial that show how deep Obama is in this and my hope that he is indicted in the Operation Board Games upcoming trial. PUMAs must show this stuff to everyone you know. It is real, not an internet rumor! I am showing people who are just shocked the MSM does not tell us any of this stuff. Here is the link and Obama mention starts on page 17:
http://www.suntimes.com/images/cds/MP3/prosobama.pdf
*************
So it sounds like Rezko had several others make $10,000 donations to Obama and then he reimbursed them. Since Rezko has already contributed the max, this was the way he could contribute more. And something about money laundering? I hope someone can explain this better to me.
110 “shine” should be “sign”
#59 Texassherry
My point is that our goal is to fight misogyny and sexism and corrupt elections and politicians.
Our goal is to fix the democratic process - return it to the way our Founding Fathers intended it.
This election year, actually the past two elections, it’s the Dems who have dug themselves into a hole. Hillary just so happens to be the Dem who was the unfortunate target of the ‘grand unveiling’.
Can we exclude centrist Republicans? Include borderline Dems? Or should we welcome them with the hope that they’ll come out of this centrist Dems?
Murphy has adopted the Voice of the Voters. I can see our mission evolving into one of Democratic PROCESS watchdog.
Right now we focus on the Dems - the misogyny, bias, sexism, racism, ageism that was tolerated and encouraged by the political parties and the media. We focus on the undemocratic process of shoving a qualified candidate out of one of the closest primary races in history.
What happens after November? PUMA Pac will be there to right the wrongs to the democratic process.
Murphy, if I am WAY off base, please correct me. I guess I’m thinking long term. I would hate to see the powerful force you’ve mothered into being go to waste.
How do you comment on the CNN Bill Scheider article?
#106 Headclunker
I’d iron his shirts for him. I bet his pockets are filled with money from “unknown sources”. Would make a nice donation to PUMA
#88
I will be voting McCain if no Hillary miracle happens. I decided a while ago that not voting Obama means accepting McCain as POTUS, so I could just take it a step further and vote, not just for McCain, but against Obama.
I hope all will consider a vote for McCain because I think only if Obama loses in a landslide will the DNC never try this kind of crap again. If Obama loses by a little, the DNC may figure, well, we almost did it last time, let’s see if we can this time in 2012. I never want to go through this crap again!
Landslide for McCain! It can’t just be an Obama loss, is has to be an embarrassing loss!
Murphy - you were amazing on the radio show….so articulate, concise, deliberate and what a commanding presence!
What did it for me with Bo “She’s likeable enough” in that sneering, condescending attitude of his”, tripled and quadrupled and the next five highest things that exponentially have turned me so against this man as POTUS.
Read even more _ my favorite line : We are not his ATM machine….(paraphrase)
Support stops till Barack Obama keeps his word on key issues- (fanatic) fans
BY MICHAEL SAUL
Stop giving money to Barack Obama! Don’t volunteer for him! That’s the biting message from some unhappy precincts of Obama Nation.
A New York Obama backer disenchanted with the Democratic candidate’s post-primary lurch to the center Thursday launched an Internet campaign urging the likeminded to withhold campaign donations until Obama lives up to his promises.
“He shouldn’t take us for granted - he shouldn’t just assume we’re just an ATM machine,” said Bob Fertik, founder of Democrats.com, a group of self-described progressive activists. “We’re enthusiastic about him, but our level of financial commitment is going to depend on his level of leadership on the issues that we care about.”
Fertik started Thursday what he’s calling the “Obama Progressive Escrow Fund,” asking backers to put money they planned to donate to Obama “in escrow.”
Fertik is fired up over Obama’s decision to support counterterrorism legislation granting legal immunity to telecommunications companies that complied with President Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program.
While that issue tops many supporters’ complaint lists, Obama’s comments on gun rights, capital punishment and Israeli-Palestinian policy have also shaken his fan base.
Jake Barlow of San Francisco, who donated $2,000 to Obama and traveled to Texas to campaign for him, said he has called off plans to give $2,600 more and work as a volunteer in a fall battleground state. His reason for sitting on his hands and wallet is the wiretapping flap.
“I thought Barack Obama was different,” Barlow, 40, said. “He’s now starting to look like a vacillating, flip-flopping politician, and I just can’t in good conscience support that.”
Glenn Greenwald, a writer for Salon.com, said, he, too, won’t donate a dime to Obama.
“Obama is jeopardizing himself by fundamentally abandoning his values and positions and angering his supporters,” he said.
Jen Psaki, a spokeswoman for Obama, did not respond Thursday to an inquiry from the Daily News.
Dan Gerstein, a New York-based political consultant and Obama backer, said he believes some of Obama’s supporters are being “unrealistic and bordering on naive.”
“He is trying to broaden his appeal to a larger electorate and to be true to this postpartisan, unifying message that he’s been campaigning on,” he said.
msaul@nydailynews.co
#114 Maryland PUMA
Based on discussions on other blogs, the popular sentiment seems to be to continue PUMA beyond this election cycle.
We’re not going away, even if teh configuration changes.
#48 murphy
I read/heard that many are “ill” with the Virus: “Buyer’s Remorse”
#112 Middle age female
Your understanding of it is very correct. Think about all the money Bo received from oil company employees etc. He must be stupid to think we actually believe those employees en masse donated so much. Logic tells me the employees were gifted the cash to donate, cause we all know how much these big corporations care about the little guy in their businesses and pay them so much they have cash overflow to make such large contributions.
I must share this -
The day my X spouted: “I love the smell of ironing. It reminds me of my mother!” I threw the iron away!
I’m still laughing!
greta
had an advertising idea for when you guys all go to Denver. Get signs placed on the side of the buses with somethng like “PUMA’s ride in the bus , not under it”
#59 Texassherry
These emails have also stated that they are donating and are active PUMAs in stealth. Many of them ARE Pumas, they just don’t blog.
Excerpt:
“. . . even though I’m no longer posting I am doing the things I can to get Hillary nominated and doing everything I can to keep Obama out. I will be contributing to the Denver trip, Hillary’s debt, and P.U.M.A. over this weekend.
. . .I, like many Republicans, thought Hillary was full of it when she first started campaigning. I thought she was just saying what we wanted to hear to get our vote. BUT the more she spoke, the more I started thinking that perhaps this IS the REAL Hillary. What drew me to her was her understanding of the hardship of the middle class. She presented plans that her own party threw aside….plans that would help millions like me.
…Hillary is not like the normal Democratic political figures….she is something bigger than both parties. I honestly feel that she is the one that can bring all of us…from all sides…together.
…McCain is a wonderful man. He puts country before party and has proven that several times. I have no doubt that everything he does in office will be for what he truly believes will be best for America. So 4 years with him is okay by me. Oh…just to make sure you know, if Hillary is against him I will vote for her as will millions of Republican just like me.
…I’m 100% behind all of you! I support PUMA in so much as it will lead to Hillary being nominated. I will contribute to Hillary for her debt and to anything that PUMA needs. I always look at the actions to see what I can participate in as a Republican for Hillary.”
(It was a REALLY long email.)
#23 doria
I received the same message and it angered me to no end!
123 - Good idea, Trish
#122 gordana.hill08
LOL I love that. But I hve to agree with your X on one part, the smell of ironing is yummy in the morning.
#114Marylandpuma
I understand what you are saying and I would imagine that there are a lot of Republicans that would support you on that including my husband.
The point that I was making was that in the About Me page Murphy states that we are Democrats fighting to get our Democratic party back. Also I have read a lot of posts where democrat Pumas are passionate about what the decomcratic party stands for and are only voting Republican as a protest vote. Most Independants are either former Democrats or at least due not have views that conflict with ours. If we let Republicans blog and someone brings up some of the touchier issues such as pro choice, taxes,etc I could see where there would be a real disagreement. Also many of us have been fighting the Obama supporters who say we are Republicans. Anyway this is just MY opinion. I just think that if we change who we are then it should be posted and we should all be on the same page on what we tell people when we recruit them. All of the Republicans that I know would only vote for Hillary as a protest vote because they think McCain is too conservative.
Republicans?
To answer texassherry’s question.
Puma PAC is a political action committee working to reform the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. We welcome ALL Democrats, and believe every Democratic voter in America should be a member so that we can truly be the VOICE OF THE VOTERS in every single election!
We want to be the AARP of the Democratic Party. It’s free, simple, and fun to join. We will ALWAYS stand up for free and fair elections, enfranchisement of ALL Democrats in ALL 50 states, and INSIST that national candidates keep our coalition party UNITED.
This primary season has showed us all how FAR the Democratic party has fallen. We have A LOT of work to do.
Right now, between now and November, our goals are to MAKE AS MUCH NOISE AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WILL NOT SUPPORT A SELECTED NOMINEE.
If independents and republicans want to join us in that effort, great! We’ll do our best to convert you while we’re at it!
However, Puma PAC is a Democratic effort. We do not endorse, campaign for, or in any way overtly SUPPORT McCain (though some of our members have started to actually admire him, which is of course their right).
These threads will never be a place to insistently sing the praises of McCain. We’re Democrats. Always have been, always will be.
There are absolutely no party tests or any other kind of
prerequisites for joining Puma PAC. No one checks your voting records or asks you to agree to an agenda.
If you agree with our goal to be the VOICE OF THE VOTERS in the Democratic Party, join us and welcome!
I believe MP’s point, which is well taken, is that we DO need Independents to cross over in order to win national elections. Also, there are a surprising number of Republicans who are beginning to admire us — many of them will join our effort in good faith, and they are welcome! Like i said, I bet we’ll convert them eventually!
Our goals have not changed. Our mission has not changed.
Join US!
Trish:
Pumas ride ON the bus not UNDER it and sit WHEREVER we want!
#130 Maryland PUMA
lol I love it
“sit wherever we want” triggers in me images of Rosa Parks
mp — nice image.
We want a seat ON the bus!
reminder — contribute to the BUSES TO DENVER fund!
So many Pumas have kindly sponsored rides for other Pumas that we will soon be able to END the bus fund! Amazing!!
If you haven’t yet sent $10 or $20 please do it now so we can charter the buses this week! Only contribute if you can — unlike some people we wont mention, we DO care how poor you are.
Murphy - LOL
The Rosa Parks thing was intentional DWP!
Lol - AARP must have really done a good job re-branding themselves if we want to be the AARP of the Democratic Party - I can’t think of one person my age who was happy to get their AARP info in the mail.
Discount, schmicounts - we’re not old - we’re boomers and we rock!
My dog is 18 and her name, is Murphy, and she has her AARF card - that’s as far we go…..:)
#135 Lorelai
ROFL……MAO!
Maryland PUMA and Murphy, I just thought of something, I know a place where you can get banners, etc done for very very very little money. I’m going to send both of you an e-mail as soon as I find it, so you can review it in case you are thinking of banners or something similar.
#134 Maryland PUMA
Then your slogan was effective
#135 Lorelai
awww, I have a very large soft spot in my heart for older doggies, you should be very proud of yourself, he must receive lots of love and care from you
#7 mijabsnji
Thanks for info.
He is looking more and more like the emperor with no clothes. This is what the DNC wanted all along, puportedly since 2004. virginia.puma found an article regarding Dem plan since 2004 but cannot find it again. Anyone know what, where this is? thanks
#135 Lorelai
… I remember how shocked and insulted I was when I received my “invitation” to join AARP, a FULL YEAR before my qualifying birthday. The nerve!
They probbaly do that because they know we’re on our way to forgetfulness. (Get them early before their photographic memories run out of film”, etc.)
Awesome Trish. I was thinking maybe Fred could be even more generous…..
#122 Middle age female
The best article on Obama’s Chicago corruption is from Evelyn Pringle. I’ll warn you these are very long:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0805/S00325.htm
Good morning Pumas - justed posted a comment on the NYT page - someone named Sally pushed my button - I edited my first response & am in moderation - will probably not post but here it is:
Sally, you are a poor example to women everywhere - the misogny & crude, degrading references to Hillary Clinton not only made her seem less than human but also reflected on every female in this country - the PUMA protest is more than just anger at how Hillary was treated - it is a protest against the DNC/Democratic party and how they ’selected’ a nominee rather than elected one & we will not get over it or fall in line - we will remember in November….Nobama
Do some of these women just not get it? It’s the same feeling I get when I read about Hillary’s women supporters getting in line to donate bucks to him - how can they? Let the damn party implode - then we can get it back to what it originally was intended to be - women need to realize just how much power we have - we are over 50% percent of the population
It’s one of those use or lose it type of situations -
okay - that’s my rant for the day (unless I read another stupid comment somewhere)
#144 Susie
you probably will read another stupid comment…they seem to be everywhere
#119 DWP
That was the impression I had - we’re here to stay. Unless the Puma Pride would like to disperse after November????
#146 Maryland PUMA
I was wondering about that yesterday, there will still be so much to do even when this election wraps up, no matter who wins in Denver and then in november, there is so much damage to correct with the DNC. The voters will still need a watchdog.
Murphy! “that we will soon be able to END the bus fund!” Really, that is amazing!!!!!!!! My $15 goes a long way :O
#142 Maryland PUMA
If you can arrange something even better with Fred, then that would be great! I’ll send the info I have as plan B
#146 Maryland PUMA
I expect some will drift away. That’s okay, others will join. Whatever the numbers, we’ll still be watching and making noise.
Gooooooood morning Pumas!
I hope all had a wonderful, fun-filled 4th holiday yesterday. I spent som quality time with family, which always wears me out! LOL.
Anyway, did not know if this had been posted on the blogs here before, but if you’re following Senator Clinton, here’s an AP article that tells a bit about what shes been up to lately - and that is, getting back to work!
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hiNXcWLf88PPK4oOV-kAJkH9BSyAD91LTTO80
Excerpt:
SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton delivered a clear message to her constituents Wednesday: I love New York.
Nearly a month after her historic run for the presidency came to a disappointing end, Clinton returned to upstate New York and focused on local concerns — weather-beaten apples, green power and her state’s downtrodden economy.
Along the way, crowds greeted her with standing ovations and chants of “Hillary! Hillary!”
“We find her inspiring,” said Sister Joan Sauro of St. Joseph’s Catholic Church in Syracuse, who was carrying a 2000 Clinton for Senate campaign poster that Clinton had just signed. “What they say about her grace and grit is true. I’m heartbroken that she pulled out of the race … but that means we in New York have her back.”
I guess that obot yesterday got me thinking…..that would STINK with a capital “S” if Hillary got the nomination in 2012 and they took the PUMA tconcept and a new twist on the name and used it against us.
(Yes, I know that Hillary will be POTUS in 2008.)
Must be my proactive long-term planner side kicking in.
Maryland PUMA
One of teh things that frustrates me no end, is that at other PUMA sites they seem to in the initial stages of what PUMA Pac started doing weeks ago ( well, 3 or 4. I keep forgeting we’re only a month old…unbelievable),
like writing to SDs, etc. I sorta wish we’re we all on the same page at the same time, although, waves of email spaced apart will give a better impression of out numbers.
#152 Maryland PUMA
It would definitely stink, but they are looking at it correctly. By 2012 PUMA will be so tightly organized (already the organization behind PUMA is astounding) and cemented that the Bo crowd will never be able to match us. Besides most of those will be out of college by then and hopefully experiencing life in the working world. family world, the world where we all have responsibilities. They will see things through a whole new set of eyes and I suspect will not be Bo’s most loyal fans by then.
#152 Maryland PUMA
ooops meant incorrectly
Maryland… have no fear. We outnumber them, and we’re on thd right (credible) side of the issues.
DWP
I think we’ve been a guiding force in this movement. They’re looking to us for inspiration and direction, and that’s a GOOD thing.
Excuse typos… I washed my hands this morning and can’t do a thing wih them. (groan)
#143 csuzeq -The best article on Obama’s Chicago corruption is from Evelyn Pringle. I’ll warn you these are very long:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0805/S00325.htm
**************
Very interesting. This sentence should get some heads rolling, and some shoes shaking. If the media does not pick up on this Rezko story - you can bet Hannity will.
“The persons appointed to rig the votes, including those who contributed to Blagojevich and Obama, are cooperating in exchange for immunity or lighter prison sentences.”
Maryland Puma and Trish - my last dog lived to be 20 - they are pound dogs major mutts - I’m very big with the local Human Society and I swear, I love them alive ….When Kelley died at age 20, I was so distraught - I had only been married 10 years at that time and told my husband - you don’t understand, this is the longest, healthiest relationship I’ve ever had!
But I digress…. do think the AARP analogy is good and tell people whenever I can that PUMA’s are about Reform, not Revenge (although some days revenge sounds like it would feel rather good)….
We must keep up the electability watch and write SD’s to remind them of their first responsibility - to vote for the most electable candidate. And even though the MSM would have you believe Hillary been deleted, we know differently and can show them in Denver and leading up to Denver…..
Pick 18 SD’s (one for every million that voted for Hillary) and write them and respectfully tell them we are watching them and waiting for them to vote for the person who can best restore a Democrat to the White House…..The way BO is carrying on, I wouldn’t be surprised if he does implode before the convention. Lorelai - aka golorelai
Maryland, GREAT to know. I’ve been feeling that they have been ignoring us, save a sprinkling of mentions, etc.
It seems that many of O’s flip-flop get press time on Friday… down day for getting the word out
Re: Video, 7-3-08: “Obama on Iraq, General Election Edition,” Joe Scarborough said O(pportunist) has now adopted McCain’s position on Iraq.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/
Another reason why I cancelled by Time mag subscription - Joel Stein has op-ed in Mpls Strib this am - bragging about winning $100 bucks off his mother by betting that *61 would beat Hillary - his comment: “And although some would say it’s wrong for a son to take advantage of his mom’s gambling problem, I think I was showng tough love by taunting her deeply held feminist hopes and dreams in a way that Atlantic City never could.” What an ass - hope his mother gives him a ‘gentle’ slap upside the head - he’s a koolaid drinker but is now playing at websites InTrade & iowa Electronics Markets - seems these sites work like the stock market only people buy & sell candidates’ electability, along with other important world events, like the winner of “American Idol” - WTF?? - he claims these “prediction markets” are plenty accurate - supposedly the InTrade market correctly predicted the winner in each state in 2004 & in 2006 got all the Senate races right. Right now *61-to-win is the favorite trading at 64 compared to McCain at 32
- but this is based on their thinking that we (the disenfranchised) will fall in line & come back………….fat chance……………
ranting again…………………
#30 jane-pa on 07.05.08 at 9:17 am, WROTE,
[[ I am so glad those of us that cannt go will have a side by you account. I think this is so important and want you all to be careful. Cosmeta great ideas I will help however I can.]]
Yes… I think all of us in our own way want to help. But I need everyone who reads my posts to realize that I do not represent PUMA or any of its official positions. I am just one of 18 million making my voice heard; and in the case above just making *posted* suggestions. Whether they get impliemented or not is not up to me.
Just wanted to reiterate that lest I make the wrong impression.
#144 Susie1945 on 07.05.08 at 11:29 am
———————
There are a lot of women, unfortunately, who do just not get it. Many are younger women who never experienced the major sexism that prompted the ‘feminist’ movement. Some have no idea about what women have had to fight for over so many years to achieve in regards to equal rights and as yet, semi-equal pay, and that struggle indeed continues in many arenas and areas of our country today. For so long women were indeed second class citizens in every sense, but we have come a long, long way. Yet women’s history overall always seems to take a back seat to all the other ‘histories’ in our great country. I have sisters older than myself who were in the streets ‘back in the day’ but there seem to be less and less of these brave women who are willing to stand up and take it to the streets anymore. It’s really a lack of education in my opinion. I do not know how much schools even teach, if anything, about the women’s suffrage movement and the struggles that women have faced over the years in this country. They may teach about injustices to women in other countries, and of course women suffer many times much less injustice in this country comparatively speaking, but we know injustices are still lurking and at times ignored in out mainstream in this country. This primary has obviously awakened that injustice and again brought it to the fore for many, many women (and men). One of our tasks over the long term, may just be to make sure that it stays in the fore. A new generation of women activists and women’s rights educators may have just been born!!! And all thanks to one brave Senator from New York, named Hillary Rodham Clinton.
#133
Well said Murphy. There are those who have to make a decision as to whether to eat or pay their electric bill. Not everyone can afford “five dolla”. How insensitive. I will contribute extra for those of you who can’t. Please donate only if you can. No one in America should have to go hungry.
College student charged with bribary for trying to sell his vote on e-bay. So my question is what about the SD who wanted Hillary or Bo to pay him millions for his edorsement, isn’t that the same?
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080703/K070315AU.html
Ohhhk. Maybe I need to stay off the blogs. I think I ticked everyone off. ??
#164 mcr
McCain and Obama visted the primeminister ? of Iraq independently of each other and the prime minister, when interviewed, said they were all on the smae page. That McC and O were in agreement as to the way to proceed there.
#170 Maryland PUMA
? what did you do (this time? ; ))
#169 Trish - yeah and guess where the idiot is from? right here in Minnesota - lives in Edina - rich suburb of Minneapolis - and I agree, Obama paid off the superdelegates for their votes - so what the hell’s the difference? The college kid did it on ebay & Obama did it behind closed doors??????????????
Good Morning PUMAS,
I’m sorry that I’ve been away from the blog for a little while now. My computer has been on the fritz and is doing better now. I did send the email to the Wisconson DNC Chairman the other day. That makes me so mad when I see this bias with Hillary’s SD’s. Mom and I recievd a survey from the DNC. I’m going to respond like they have would never have thought of. They also asked me for a donation for a minimum of $35. They will get PUMA dollars from me. My money, as little as it is, will go to the PUMAS!!
I would love to go to Denver, but I would need help with sponsors if that be the case. We were told, at the WV Delegate Convention, that the average nightly stay in Denver is $200 nightly. Quite a bit, for me!! I have a loud voice, but not much with the money.
I do want to thank you all again for the prayers for my family friend, Christina McSweeney. She was stablized at the hospital and they have moved her over to the local Hospice House. She has been awake and speaking to the family. She is now being told that she has weeks to live. Please keep her and her family in your thoughts and prayers. She needs as much as she can get!!
Thank you all so much!
Melissa
mpayton23@yahoo.com
Wayne County, WV
PUMA PAC Democrat
#170 Maryland PUMA
You have to stay
We need you. Certainly didn’t tick me off, but if you’re hungry for a little PUMA snack, Murphy can release a troll like she used to do, then pounce pounce munch.
In case anyone has been following the Rezkowatch site, due to the recent problems with Google blogspot, they’ve moved. They’re now at:
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
I personally don’t trust CNN as far as I can throw them, their poll may be geared towards keeping NObama supporters from becoming lax.
I am still not able to understand why the DNC got on this losing track.
OK, it would truly be wonderful to have an African-American president, but, with so many other super-qualified AA candidates out there, why Barack Obama?
This leads me to believe that the strings are being pulled only from the NObama side.
Now then, is it only him directing or is there someone behind him? (and I don’t mean his campaign management).
90% of the people I talk to know and feel the answer in their hearts -
the answer is so pure and so simple -
what we need right now is a Clinton solution
we are so much better off dealing with “The Known”
This is not the time to take a chance on “The Unknown” that is leaning towards a Jimmy Carter-type solution. (non-solution)
That would be catastrophic.
#174 melissa
Some are planning on sharing rooms, cabins, rental RVs, etc. 2, 3,4,5, even 6 to a unit, as a way of saving money, traveling frugally.
Also, someone (Zee) suggested checking out Denver Craig’s List for non-conventional temp housing.
Is anyone going to contact colleges in the area to see if they rent rooms?
I found a list of Obama’s lies (60 of them) on the justsaynodeal site. Am printing them out and posting on bulletin boards and anywhere else I think they might be read. Also printing off some of the comments here, minus the posters name, etc.
Many of the senior citizens I have talked with have said there is no way they will vote Obama and are quite staunch in saying they are going to do their part to defeat him.
It’s rather hard to persuade someone who is addicted to MSM and their propaganda. But, fortunately, MSM has given me a tool. Most of us are weary of the war actions in Iraq and Afganistan. MSM has made it known that Israel definitely intends to attack Iran before the election. They are not convinced about Obama and feel he would be less supportive than other candidates. However, Hillary does have an “in” with them. I try to inform people that Israel has never NOT done what they have said they would regarding military action to defend Israel. So, if their intention is to attack before the election, we still have the convention to turn things around, at least buying some valuable time. IF Hillary gets the nomination!!! Because if O gets it, it is quite likely we will be embroiled in World War III before the Inauguration. His flip-flopping is having negative impact on investors and the stock market, also. As reflected by the recession and bear market now occuring. Obama simply doesn’t seem to understand that you can’t make a poor man rich by making rich men poor. It is the rich who create jobs and the rich who are laying off workers now because of uncertainty about the election.
It is exciting to feel part of this movement to restore the Democrat Party to it’s intended structure and to defeating this evil man who forgets he is half white and uses the “race card” in an attempt to blackmail us into giving him the nomination.
Since the primaries, I hear more about what he can do for himself than for America.
Lastly, whatever happened to Hillary and Bill campaigning for him? I am just hoping and praying that Hillary realizes how quickly things are changing and that people are changing their minds, and reactivates. If she does I think the world will be shocked by the amount of finacial support she will r