Quote of the Day, via bmw60 in comments: “The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ” — Patrick Henry, 1775
UPDATE DENVER, JULY 4TH, 2008 AT 12:00PM: Step One of Puma PAC’s planning for Denver is now underway. We will be posting updates and details OFTEN over the next week, so don’t fret. First, if you are interested in joining us in Denver, please send an email today to gotodenver@pumapac.org. Please include the following info: Your real name; your blog user name if you have one; the closest major city and your state; how many in your party; and very important: whether you are DEFINITELY going, might be going, want to go but have problems. ALSO, PLEASE PLEASE include your cell phone number. Obviously we will only call you if absolutely necessary and would NEVER give the number away; this is a safety precaution. IMPORTANT: Puma PAC cannot provide housing. We will be providing links and tips for accommodations, but housing all the Pumas is beyond our scope. We WILL help people get there. Please let us know in your email HOW you plan to get to Denver: car, plane, train, bus, or Puma PAC bus. We will do our VERY BEST to help everyone get there. Friends and family members WELCOME!
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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Happy Independence Day !!
Wow, am I the first? Don’t know yet. I just e-mailed all the politicians and news media with the same e-mails we got yesterday with Annabel’s DECLARATION OF OBJECTIONS. Mission accomplished!
from Annabellep
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/#comment-240
When, in the course of U. S. Presidential Elections, it becomes necessary for one portion of a political party to assume among the people of the nation a position different from that which they have previously occupied, but one to which the laws of nature and of their Constitution entitle them, a decent respect for the opinions of fellow citizens requires that they should declare the causes that impel them to such a course.
In agreement with generations who have gone before us, we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men and women are created equal; that they are endowed at birth with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of those who suffer from it to refuse allegiance to it, and to insist upon the institution of a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.
Prudence will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for transient causes; and accordingly experience has shown that citizens are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the political structures to which they are accustomed. But political parties are not governments, and when a long train of abuses and usurpations evinces a design to reduce them under authoritarianism, it is their duty to throw off such a political party, and to provide different representation for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of many in the Democratic Party, and it is this suffering which compels them to now demand the representation to which they are entitled. The recent history of both parties is a history of repeated injuries on the part of elected officials against the electors, having in direct object the establishment of authoritarian power over them, for the purpose of profit. This has rendered the Democratic Party unrecognizable to ordinary citizens. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
Objections
The members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and By-Laws Committee violated The DNC charter on May 31, 2008 by meeting in private, in direct violation of the Sunshine Rules Provision of said Charter.
On that same day, the Democratic Party grossly violated ethical standards when it awarded four delegates to candidate Barack Obama based on actual votes for candidate Hillary Clinton, and in addition, awarded him delegates based on votes for “Uncommitted.”
Earlier in the campaign season, the Democratic Party violated its own Delegate Selection Rules by applying penalties to only two states who broke Section 11 calendar rules, even though five states broke those rules. In addition, Florida and Michigan were originally stripped of 100% of their delegates, even though the rules stipulated a 50% penalty.
The decisions of the RBC meeting mentioned above are evidence of sexism and authoritarianism within the ranks of the Democratic Party.
Caucuses are a violation of the one-person, one-vote and secret ballot principles that have been cornerstone Democratic values for more than a century. They produced a skewed and unfair result this primary season. Caucus states are also over-represented in the pledged delegate count, in violation of the one-person, one-vote principle.
Sexism was allowed to flourish as never before not only because of the behavior of the mainstream media, but also by the actions of many in the progressive online community, the stark silence of the Democratic Leadership and because ordinary Americans, male and female, engaged in it as long as it advanced their favored candidate.
Barack Obama and his campaign exploited racial issues in the primary campaign, which risks setting back the Civil Rights movement, and cynical Democratic leaders, as well as some ordinary Democrats, approved of this campaign tactic.
The voices of 18 million voters who supported Hillary Clinton have been illegitimately silenced, ridiculed, and subjected to outright fabrications on the part of the mainstream press and the Internet press.
The evidence is present, for anyone who wants to see it, that authoritarian tendencies fueled by greed are on the rise in the Democratic Party.
Now, in view of the dismissal of one-half the Democratic voters of this primary season, their social degradation, in view of the unjust actions above mentioned, and in view of the disenfranchisement of the voters in two states, and because we do feel ourselves aggrieved, oppressed, and fraudulently deprived of a free and fair primary election, we insist that the Democratic Party address our objections, or risk the loss of our votes come November.
In entering upon the work before us, we anticipate no small amount of misconception, misrepresentation, and ridicule; but we will use every instrumental within our power to affect our objectives. We will employ agents, circulate tracts and flyers, blog, advertise in all media, petition state and national Democratic leadership, and endeavor to enlist the press in our behalf.
Resolutions
Resolved, that the Democratic Party must seat the full Michigan and Florida delegation in adherence to the thoroughly Democratic principle of one-person, one-vote.
Resolved, that Michigan delegates must be awarded according to the actual votes cast, specifically that Hillary Clinton must be given 73 delegates and Barack Obama must be given 0 (zero).
Resolved, that Hillary Clinton’s name must be offered on the first roll call at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August of 2008, in accordance with tradition for 16 of the last 18 Democratic National Conventions.
Resolved, that caucuses should be abolished, and the Democratic Primary system in its entirety must be reformed to better reflect the one-person, one-vote principle, as well as the equal representation principle enshrined in the Constitution.
Resolved, that millions of women and men alike no longer think of the Democratic Party as the party for women’s issues, or for equality and fairness, or for the protection of abortion rights, and will no longer vote for them based on such criteria.
Resolved, that the cynical exploitation of cultural issues will not be rewarded with votes, and that it is part of the PUMA mission to educate the electorate about such abuses.
Resolved, that the PUMA movement is comprised of traditional and loyal Democrats who have carefully watched and recorded the events of the 2008 Primary campaign season.
Resolved, that 18 million Americans voted for Hillary Clinton, more than any other presidential primary candidate in history, and they have a right to help shape the agenda and processes of the Democratic Party.
Ok#1 DANCES W/PUMAS, You beat me to it! Let’s all send those Declaration of Objections out. They are great!!
awesome Murphy….awesome
texassherry (#547 from previous post)
Here you go:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/
Just click it and the show with Darragh will begin automatically.
I am proud to be an American. The words of the Forefathers speak directly to this movement.
Good morning all. Just wanted to check in to say that I contributed $20.08 to our girl and $5.44 to rain green for McCain. ON the McCain site where it asked who referred you I put Barak Obama, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi. That felt so good. Hope everyone has a good 4th. Take time to read the Declaration of Independence writen by our forefathers who had the bravery to stand up to the King of the most powerful country at that time.
also from annabellep
(also posts on here too?)
not only can you copy this, you are compelled to do so.
Yes, yes, please, post it everywhere, print it out, paste it, tape it, staple it, stamp it, mail it, whatever! Just get it out there. It’s vital that we petition the Convention with rational arguments.
Thanks!
#6Maxgrader-thank you.
those are her words, I hope she won’t mind me reposting them here.
repeat of a downstairs thread- Denver Overnight
486 PumaAllie
re: video
Please while viewing that video, please make sure you stand, thank you
TREEPUMA
MamaPUMA, do you want to fax the Declaration of Objections to the News Journal at the number I gave you?
repeat
HappY 4th , PUMAS !!!! I have been doing a lot of lurking lately , and I love how this site has grown !. I still see names from day one and that is even more exciting
They sooooo wanted us to fade away – too bad .
! Anyway , I can’t just stay home in November , but I would like to have a clear conscience when I vote , so I was looking for a little insight from people whose judgment I trust . Thanks , Cooper
Anyway , those of you who have been on here for awhile know that I refuse to support any candidate other than Sen. Clinton until after the convention . I continue to believe that she is the rightful nominee , and until an OFFICIAL nominee is seated at the convention – she , having won the majority of the votes , is (imo) the presumptive nominee …. but , I digress.. I have an honest question to throw out – Has anyone really taken an honest look at Nader’s platform ? I have not . I went to the site this morning , and didn’t have time to figure out how to navigate it … I had heard that his positions were similar to Clinton’s on many issues , but of course I have to see that for myself – if I listened to what people tell me I would be a bot
Excuse. That’s thread, not post. Sorry.
Number 10:
You’re welcome!
cjv—-This one is for you.
Donation amount: $50.00 USD
Total: $50.00 USD
Purpose: BUSES TO DENVER
Recipient information
Donations coordinator: Puma PAC
Contact email: murphy@pumapac.org
Happy Independence Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
murphy…anti and andersen and sherry and sandi are back. We ARE a strong PUMA family!
Also were talking last night….water, sunscreen, and chapstick a MUST for Denver bound people. Dehydrate real fast at this altitude! maybe some kind of umbrella or umbrella hat too for shade. don’t know what will be allowed near center yet.
Someone posted this on Greta’s site. If true, could be interesting. “LARRY SINCLAIR has a new attorney former Delaware attorney general.”
sent the declaration of objections off to the email media list… by the way… add loudobbs @cnn.com to your mailing lists… i am going to send it to the list of “politicians” too.. i donated on 7/1… too anxious i guess to use my “economic stimulus package”…LOL
How much will the buses cost? I am from PHILLY and wonder about that… would love to go… keep us updated please!!!
#17
Now I need to catch up on Murphy’s interview…….
advil as well…the higher altitude, if you aren’t used to it, can cause major headaches…been there, done that
No Texas I have not checked out his site. I can comfortably live with the idea of McCain. I’ve spent a lot of time at his website and blog. I personally feel a huge bloc has to swing towards him or bb will still take the ge. But what we’re doing here is ensuring everyone places their vote where they WANT to, not where they are TOLD too! So everybody is making their own decisions while we still have that right!
cjv if you right click on link you can open in another window. then put it in background as you listen and you can still blog
sherry come on in. water still fine
#18 Taffy on 07.04.08 at 10:43 am
murphy…anti and andersen and sherry and sandi are back. We ARE a strong PUMA family!
I am glad our good friends returned, this brings tears!!! We have to stay together and fight side by side, support each other, learn from each other! PUMA!!!!!!
I know of 3 medics , other than myself who are planning to go to Denver . Might I suggest the we set up a tent ( I have one ) in case of any medical emergencies ? Otherwise , I know we will all be carrying our supplies .
anybody seen sunnypa lately?
Happy 4th everyone …Great article; very appropriate…helps bring us all to the base for which we have joined this coalition of PUMA’s. How great for the freedom to be able to express our opinions and disgust with the current system and government in place but in turn, how sad we have to. I challenge those who read; those who are on the fence about whether there voice is even heard; those who lurk from the other side of this great debate our country is in …read what has been posted by on the front page …an excerpt from our Declaration…let it really speak; sink in; and consider where we are now ….food for thought.
Taffy , I TOTALLY agree . I just want to educate my self before I make a decision . For now , however, I have not given up on Hillary
#24 Taffy – I did just that the other night. But I am in the multitask mode right now. I carried this laptop into the room to get myself ready for the day…..good lord, I need wireless everywhere!
Just a suggestion : We should get a master list of cell phone numbers for all PUMAS and have ground coordinator or a team so that we can keep up with meet up sites etc. Some of us will be in Denver prior to others. We need a way to keep track of each other. Just a thought
On the 4th of July all the wonderful PUMAS raised their heads in UNITY towards the dark night sky. The clueless would say, “THEY’RE JUST WATCHING THE FIREWORKS”, but the PUMAS WERE FEELING THEM IN THEIR HEARTS…a tradition that runs deep within the soul of this PROUD PUMAPAC. Feelings of PRIDE, GLORY, HONOR, and the STAR SPANGLED BANNER were exploding in the sky. The PUMAS thought of the American Flag, the Founding Fathers and their fight for Freedom, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, their Civil Rights, and the Right to Vote. The DNC was WRONG not to COUNT ALL THE VOTES as they were cast by the people. Presidential candidates should be “ELECTED BY THE MANY” and not “SELECTED BY THE FEW”. It goes to the CORE PRINCIPLES of FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY the cornerstones upon which our UNION was formed. The PUMA resolve grew as they watched overhead, they knew in their hearts that America and it PRINCIPLES are worth fighting for. If doing what is right and holding the DNC accountable means putting COUNTRY BEFORE POLITICAL PARTIES, then so be it. The PUMAS put their PAWS over their hearts as a GESTURE of SOLIDARITY.
Meanwhile back at the ranch in MONTANA, the DNC presumptive candidate was being eyed by a couple of local cowboys. “Yep, he sure looks like a POST TURTLE to me.” Makes me wonder how he got up there.”
He’s got a flag pin on but I heard he’ll “JUST BE WATCHING THE FIREWORKS.”
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY PUMAS!!!
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY HILLARY!!! (DONATE 20.08)
Historical Fact:
Americans shot off fireworks to celebrate their DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE…sounds like PUMAS to me!
Texas I would be cautious about supplies. They may be confiscated. Not sure who you would contact but know at all the concerts there are always medics around. They even have them on bicycles at the baseball games roaming around. From what little is leaking out it sounds like likes of military personnel are going to be around as well as police officers from other districts lending support. Maybe on Monday check through mayor’s office and try to find who you can contact. I say mayor because most others you can only email and wait for response.
post turtle….ROFL
forgot about that
I have been reading this quote from my favorite of our heroes of the American Revolution today, just to remind myself. He must have been an early PUMA!!!!
I give you, a portion of the words of Patrick Henry.
“Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free– if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ”
Just substitute Nobama or Dean or Pelosi or the other Mafia Mob bosses from the DNC. Just substitute Donna Brazille. WE will not shut up and sit down!!! We will not “JUST GET OVER IT”. WE WILL OVERCOME!!!!
GO PUMAS!!!!
Hillary 2008!!!
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Taffy , good info , thanks .
good thought prpl Email it to murphy don’t want it missed
Taffy (#18)
Don’t know about dehydration in the summertime in Denver. But in the hills above at Keystone while TRYING to ski in 1994, I lost my breath and decided that was no fun. Vomitted too on my way down the slope in the tram.
People there are terrific and helpful. Got my rented Sentra stuck in the snow and a truck of people stopped to get me out.
True though. The altitude is not kind to visitors; but the people are. I even got carded at ALL the Diamond Shamrocks for wanting beer. And I was 41 at the time! (Must be the Beatle haircut I’ve had all my life that makes me look so…).
I love Denver residents.
12 tree
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BUSES TO DENVER $35.00
Total: $35.00 USD
There is a link to the JustSayNoDeal effort to Donate $20.08 for Hillary on the front page now.
Thank you to all the tireless Pumas who have kept us focused on retiring her debt.
If we need a campground, the closest to Denver is Cherry Creek- here is a link you can set up tents.
http://www.coloradodirectory.com/costateparks/cherry.html
The next closest I believe is in Lyons outside of Boulder.
Max that’s altitude sickness and many people suffer from it when they first come. Also can make you very sleepy. Sandi was wondering about diabetics last night and how it would affect them. Altitude is going to be a BIG problem for a lot of people!
#14TexasTigress…I heard on Hannity and Colmes last night that Nader may be the only candidate that truly wants to take our troops out of Iraq. Apparently BO is changing his position on Iraq too and although he promised to get our troops out in 16 months he is now saying he’ll have to reassess the situation. On the show they also said that if Nader keeps his policy of withdrawing troops he’ll probably take many votes away from BO!!!
A democratic stratagest on the show said that BO is changing from left wing liberal to centrist to win the general. He pretty much said that BO will do anything to win!! Nothing new I guess!!
HAPPY 4th PUMAs!!!
#36 lotts1948 on 07.04.08 at 11:00 am
“Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive PHANTOM OF HOPE, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?” ~ Patrick Henry
Just donated for buses and to retire debt.
Happy INDEPENDENCE Day, PUMAs!
God bless, and HELP, the United States of America.
Will check in later. Welcome back antifish, goandersen, and all. We missed you!
Justsaynodeal youtube video to retire debt.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY
I lived in Boulder during the Pope visit. I was a medic at site. Denver/Boulder area will have volunteers of Paramedics, EMTS and tons of volunteers. We even had the National Guard. Lots of heat strokes, I was a volunteer for the whole week. No sleep. You need to have lots of water, no caffene, do not drink sodas, between the altitude, and the heat you will dehydrate quickly. You have to remember you will be a MILE HIGH, above sea level.
44 Taffy and maxgrader
I’m a diabetic with heart problems and the 2 times I was in Denver, my only problem was a headache and thirst.
Murphy – point of clarification please. On the home page it states that the bus will leave from Dallas. Yesterday, I think, you mentioned a bus leaving from Houston??? It is Dallas for now but if we get enough money then Dallas and Houston???
Here is a link to a campgrounds page in Denver. Sorry..don’t know any more than this.
http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Campgrounds/S-CO/T-Denver/
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY TO ALL THE PUMAS
Congratulations Murphy
Well, that explains that. Thank you Taffy.
The cure to altitude sickness must be kindness. The people there made my stay a wonderful experience. And that made me feel real good real fast for I love kindness.
But, being a guy I better stop it or people will talk.
Altitude sickness should not affect unless you are there longer than a week or two. But you will get drunk very fast if you are not used to it! also the beer they sell is 6% except for the beer sold in gas stations, that beer is 3%.
clarification from post 12
I meant anyone who watches the video to please stand, I didnt mean you pumaallie lol, sorry, so anyone who watches it to please stand while the video plays, thank you
TREEPUMA
Greta Wire PUMA blog is still up. Come on PUMA, lend your voice this July 4th!
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/
HAPPY JULY 4TH PUMAS!
Donated to Hillary and Puma Pac this morning. Had to change my gmail as it was invaded by the Evil Ones. It took me over an hour to save my contacts and re-enter into a new email account, actually two new email accounts.
Sent Annabelle’s absolutely wonderful item to 86 newspapers in New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Montana, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. In the Subject line I put “Why 18 Million Will Not Fall in Line”.
I hope to increase my newspaper database this weekend to cover Missouri, Iowa, and Louisiana. It will take the Obats awhile to catch up with me again.
Have a wonderful 4th and enjoy the freedom that our forefathers, fathers, brothers, husbands, and loved ones fought so hard for and that which we PUMAs must now protect.
Thank you Murphy, MarylandPuma, and all of you Pumas who have made this 4th of July very special for America!!
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Happy 4th to all Pumas! I just donated 20.04 through ClintonsDems site.
This is a great day to growl our independents from a party that ignored us, turned their backs on us and selected the nominee against the will of the people.
“Hillary 08″
Make it happen!
Puma
Donated $50.00 to PUMA yesterday, and, just now, $20.08 to pay down Hillary’s debt. I sure hope it goes for that purpose and does not aid you know who in any way. I’m on a fixed income, folks; that’s the best I can do for now.
Happy Independence Day Pumas!!
I meant, I donated 20.08
#59 utahpuma–Wow, that is an amazing idea. Did you send that idea to the Action Center? Great job.
Now Max…we happy PUMAs. we doing good. Don’t want to be “sour pusses”
Bigcatlover:
I suppose each individual case is different. Like with a mind no two bodies are alike.
Unless you’re already acclimated to the weather in the migh high city newcomers will have to adjust by taking precautions. Just depends on each person’s system as to what they will be.
It’s always a good idea to be prepared. I was a boy scout and know that to be true.
heysandy..we only do what we can. I’ve called FEC and no way can DNC or bb get their hands on the money. Any primary money left over is donated to charity. Any GE money is returned unless person who gave gives permission for it to be used such as her senate re election. Somebody yesterday said they had received an email from Hillary asking if their donation could go to senate re election. They had paid the 4600 max. So our “small” donations apparently were used for primary and large donations put in GE to save financial nightmare in case she doesn’t need GE fund. I pray she does!!!!
nh4hillary….you write such great things. I hope you are collecting them. They would make a great book!
I just sent off to the email addies you provided with us—both politicians and news services this.. i DARE you to all do this too… LOL I use the word dare, because you all dare to upset the establishment and have the spirit of Patrick Henry… GO PUMA’s
I give you, a portion of the words of Patrick Henry.
“Shall we try argument? … we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, Nancy, Donna, Howard, Al, American Voices, democratic party members, D. Bernstein, etc., deceive ourselves. … we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free– if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ”
WE will not shut up and sit down!!! We will not “JUST GET OVER IT”. WE WILL OVERCOME!!!!
GO PUMAS!!!! I am one of 18 million!!!
Hillary 2008!!!
I just checked the Greta site and brought this post back, thought you might want to read the last line.
Comment by in PA
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
“As for Rendell, I want to know how he can support a guy who is obviously a crook and and idiot.”
They have something in common?
Greta: GREAT THREAD
I’m not a PUMA, I’m a McCain Republican, but I have to say if it came down to a vote between Hillary and McCain, and McCain lost, I’d feel safer having Hillary as CIC than having Obama at the helm.
The only Democrat vote I have cast in recent memory has been for Judge Seamus, PA Supreme Court. Many of our state’s republicans voted for him, that’s how he won. (this is by way of establishing my Republican creds). During the course of the Dem primary I became more and more astonished at how shabbily HRC was treated, by MSM and her own party’s leadership. I am in contact with more than a few rock rib Republicans, and I have to tell you many of them were equally shocked.
In short, I do believe the PUMA organization has a legitimate grievance.
Contribution Details
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Amount: $20.08
thoughts…I’ve been thinking about why I am so passionate about this whole thing. Bear with me while I vent.
I was so pissed off at the Bush debocle (sp?), that I stopped voting. If my vote was not going to count, why bother? Well, I came out of the closet (the voting one), and voted for Hillary. I was so excited to see that we could possibly have someone in that high office, that could accomplish some good. Including voter reform, which Hillary was working to fix.
I early voted here in Texas, on day one. Weeks later, we went to attempt the caucas vote. Myself, my partner, (who early voted, with her 9 year old son actually pushing the button next to Hillary’s name)and her 11 year old son with Autism. We stood in line, after official voting was done, for over an hour. After they finally figured out what they needed to do, they starting filing us inside. Signing forms, ok, pads of paper, then we had to wait. For everyone to get signed in before we could start the process. Ok, now mind you, its now after 8:30 pm and we have two kids taking TAKS tests in the morning. We gave up, after a while, and left. The kids needed good nights rest for the test and we’ve just had them standing in line for over 3 hours total, at this point. As we left, we passed a line of people, still needing to sign in, that was over 200 more people long! So in effect, a lot of us, gave up, for one reason or another. So yes, Hillary had the popular vote in this state. And BO had the caucus vote. Who knows what the caucus vote would have been, if everyone could have been a part of it.
So now, I’m feeling again, my vote didn’t count. Just like 8 years ago. 8 years ago, my sister-in-law was a huge follower of the NoBushZone coalition. And I thought she was whacked. She went to the debates, she drove to DC to march…3 times. I thought she was whacked. She was so passionate about voter reform, and getting Bush impeached. OMG, I thought she was whacked.
Well, now I’m trying to talk my partner into letting me go to Denver. I have bumpers on my car, I plan to have more. I’m sending letters to my neighbors, emails to delegates, senators, etc, jumpin on this blog every chance I get. I must be whacked! I am whacked. No, I’m just finally tired of the system that doesn’t seem to work for the people. My ancestors led Washington into Trenton, on the night the Hessians were defeated. They fought in the Revolutionary war, they helped house, feed and gave medical attention to those in need during the war. The war that gave me the freedom I now enjoy. The freedom I was willing to fight and die for years ago, while I was in the military. The freedom, I hope the boys in my care will be able to enjoy and be proud of. The freedom to feel my vote counts.
I don’t feel that way right now. I’m not proud of my leaders. I’m not proud of how they act, acted and continue to act, while representing me.
I am proud to be a PUMA. I am very proud to be in this fight with the rest of you PUMAs.
Donated to PumaPac with no problem (love Paypal) Tried to donate to Hillary but the security code is worn off card..:: sigh::.. but I did send an email explaining what I wanted. I’ve done phone orders with credit cards and you really don’t need the code in order to process it. Hope it goes thru okay!
Happy Fourth of July!….
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/04/all-is-not-well-in-the-kingdom-of-obama/
Welcome back anitfish and goanderson!!
You made me laugh last night! 
What a great day today is! We are free to retire Hillary’s debt and as PUMAS… “HILLARY IN 2008!” Denver will never be the same!
Any word out of Bill Clinton lately?
Happy Independence Day PUMA! donated to the bus fund– now MOVE THAT BUS to denver
— I am off to retire Hillary’s debt now too….Have a wonderful safe holiday. Our Forefathers would be proud for what we’re fighting for what I believe is protecting the interest of democracy for every American. Let’s be steadfast in our original goals.
WELCOME ALL NEW PUMAS!
@74 I know I wish she would take Paypal would be so much simpler- -There is a paypal plug in though that you can download on Paypal, so you can use it on any site- It will pull up a secure card for you to use on the site, and it should work w/ your card, if you originally gave Paypal the security code. hth
Not sure if this is a repeat but wanted to post it, it appears that Barry gets cranky when he has to “clarify” his position to voters. I guess he thinks everyone is just going to vote for him because he is the “chosen one”.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/us/politics/04policy.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Morning Pumas, it’s really hard to keep up with all that is going on, so much lol. Happy 4th to all, and I’m so glad to see all that is going on. We’re going to Denver damn. Donated my $20.08 to Hillary, I haven’t done the last action that was emailed yet but I will. Murphy GREAT JOB. Hopefully I will have some new members signing up from NJ and AZ. Woo hoo keep up the good work everyone.
Below is an excerpt from an article that #92 bmw60 posted last night on the Devner Overnight thread that should be an incentive to donate to retire HRC’s debt:
(http://www.freepowerboards.com/PUMACalltoAction/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2)
‘However, Obama has no intention of pushing for a quick retirement of Clinton’s $20 million debt. He know that the PUMA community is still donating to the Clinton campaign and the sooner that debt is retired, the sooner their donations will flow to John McCain. Obama is banking on the fact that Clinton’s debt will not be retired before the conventions, thus limiting contributions to the McCain campaign by Puma’s and the spending of contributions by McCain who is taking public financing.’
Finally got Hillary’s debt, buses to Denver, and McCain’s contribution. Sure feels liberating!!!
#73… have you sent your experiences to someone? SEND THEM TO MURPHY!!! IT IS A MUST!!! THIS MUST BE RECOGNIZED!!!
PUMA Allie, I do post here and I am proud to have you quote me. Thank you for helping get the message out.
I’ve already given my $20.08 and I made the decision today that I WILL get to that Convention, come hell of high water.
It’s a great day to be a PUMA.
MO’s makeover sure must be taking a long time. But guess there was a lot to do! MEOW! Seriously..has anybody seen her since the view?
#73 DawnE. I hear you with the Texas caucus situation. I also did the early voting thing. Unfortunately I was teaching a class on Tuesday and Thursday evenings at a local community college. I had asked permission to cancel class on that Tuesday night or have a substitute so that I could attend the caucus. Of course I was told no. Less than 1/4 of my class showed up that evening as they all went to their caucus locations. Most of my students were AA. I felt totally helpless. This caucus thing is a total sham as it excludes too many people from participating. I am still so annoyed that I was prevented from casting my full vote. So while those people in Floriday feel that they are only 1/2 a person. I feel that I am only 2/3 a person since that is all my vote was worth. If it is the last thing on the face of this earth I do, I’ll make sure that in the future my vote is FULLY counted.
Dawn definitely send to murphy. can’t remember who but someone is collecting all the experiences from Texas for a court case if I remember correctly. darn senior moments
I’ll be going to McVote in the fall since the DNC says I can’t have it my way! I’ll show them! Go Hillary! I hope my $20.08 helps give you INDEPENDENCE!!!!
Good Morning Pumas and Happy 4th!!!
Murphy- I just listened to your interview on the radio from yesterday and it was great. You covered so many issues and made us all proud. Thank you.
Muchado send yours to murphy too
((((((((sherry)))))))) welcome the water is still fine. We watch out for you til you swimming with us again!
#32 prplvette85 on 07.04.08 at 10:56 am, WROTE,
[[ Just a suggestion : We should get a master list of cell phone numbers for all PUMAS and have ground coordinator or a team so that we can keep up with meet up sites etc. Some of us will be in Denver prior to others. We need a way to keep track of each other. Just a thought]]
I can’t go but the above is a good thought. Maybe you folks can *assign* one know-it-all coordinator and place that person’s cellphone number on EVERYONE’s LIST. Then, perhaps you could break up into smaller cell phone CELLS (like al queda), groups of 5 each… and each responsive to the leader/coordinator.
#65 Hillgirl
I am guessing you are referring to my newspaper database. Since I was originally the only Utahn on here, I believe there is another now, anyway, I started a database of newspapers based on the cnn electoral map–with the hopes of waking up the KoolAid addicts. I have been using it since the beginning of this site.
So now I just have to push a button, copy and paste and send. Works like a charm.
Back to making potato salad!!!
Taffy Thank you fellow PUMA!
Good idea.
Re #82, Big Cat Lover on Obama not wanting to help with Hillary’s debt – yes, an incentive to give to her ourselves (which I have), but also an incentive for McCain supporters to actively help their candidate. We shouldn’t assume he will easily beat Obama. HAPPY FOURTH!
I’ve sent my $20.08 to help pay down Hill’s debt and it feels so gooood—Happy Independence Day Hillary! As soon as I can a check will be in the mail towards the buses to Denver.
Happy 4th of July!
Contribution Details
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My part to Hillary help achieve her Independance
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bmw60 #70
Thanks for the quote! I added it as Quote of the Day.
This morning, I received an e-mail/newsletter from the Obama campaign. I did not subscribe to this newsletter; therefore, I unsubscribed and gave as my reason that “I will not support Obama.” They are persistent as h*#$. This followed a call I received several days ago from the DNC. Desperation which borders on harassment!
#73 DawnE- Touching post. I too am in Texas and had similar problems.
Good Morning PUMA’s… I won’t be here much today, just wanted to check in and read the posts before we went out to celebrate!
my thought this morning was as follows…..errr uhm ya well errr ummm… (backstage at an Obama rally)…. Harold: OMG Tony speed up the teleprompter if Obama starts adlibbing again Axelrod will have our asses!
Tony: I wish we’d have joined that Hillary campaign, never had to worry about a teleprompter with her.
Harold: Ya well The DNC bosses stuck us here so type faster
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Puma Denver email sent to list + more
thanks for the email
Getting ready to send to McCain. Did my donate to Hillary yesterday.
Kentucky person for Hillary
Happy Independence Day to all of you patriots!
I am a little confused about the e-mail I received from Murphy, i.e. what letter do I cut and past and send to her list? Also, I’d like to go to the convention, but don’t know where everyone is staying. Can someone fill me in?
I want to go to the convention. I just shared this site with a good friend and my sister. My best friend is signing up-my lil sis who is only 18 cried a bit at watching the video because this was the first time she voted and it didn’t matter. She feels as if the Democratic Party Leaders are sexist and this is the opposite message she recieved in Highschool.
Way to go DNC. You really flugged up. The repercussions have yet to be fully seen. Their childrens children better not hope for a spot in Washington because these young voters will not forget and will finish carrying the torch of PUMA JUSTICE long after its original members expire.
I will be donating $20.08 today to help Hillary retire her debt. I will also donate at least $10 to the PUMA PAC’S mission to send buses to DENVER! That will be my vacation this year. I believe well worth it!
Pumas-? for you all. How close are we to getting to $0.00 on her debt? And, if she does reach that goal, do you think that she will fight at the Convention? Do you think that they have fully succeeded in silencing her? I listened to her speech and she said that as long as we kept fighting for her that she would fight for us-well-we pumas are fighting-does she know that?
Can someone reply?
Thanks
PA
Are there any other PUMAS that would like to camp? I have tons of camping gear (thanks to my ex!) I can call and reserve some spaces for us.
Murphy can there be a bus that would take us back and forth from the campground?
Okay – I have now donated my $5.44 to McCain, my $20.08 to retire Hillary’s debt, and made a donation to the bus fund . A good 24 hour feeling.
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
DATE: July 4, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
NAME:
ADDRESS: MD
AMOUNT: $20.08
Wear Hats
Bring Sun Block Lotion
Bring Water
Bring oranges for diabetics
Contribution to Hillary accomplished:
Date: July 04, 2008 12:05 PM EDT
Contact: antifish
GA
Amount: $20.08
I agree stella49-if we go to Dener – PUMAS should be all together as much as possible. Strength in numbers
A new blog is up http://www.free-us-now.com/ and she is asking for hits!
Oh fantastic! SO far I have 9 clicks to Hillary’s contribution page on my blog. Hopefully that’s nine more people that donated at least $20.08!
#105 &106- People are donating to pay for buses to help with some of the transportation. Some pumas are driving or flying on their own. Maybe some of the pumas can share their hotel rooms and split the cost, or know of someone that has a room in their house. Camping is a great idea if someone can post where to reserve a spot. Marylandpuma is a good person for organizing and may be able to help teaming people together.
NomoreinFL,
I am working on arranging something with a friend, but if that fails, I am absolutely interested in camping. I have gear too. And I camping experience. My e-mail is peacocksandlilies AT gmail DOT com.
mcr…i always hit the reply button and send a “nice” reply. I don’t get many emails anymore and nothing in the mail. All my fun going away
And nothing EVER from bb. (my new nicknme for “him” big britches 
)
#100 mcr, I got the same thing this morning in my e-mail and did the same as you and added the comment
“I will NOT vote for Obama”
Just donated 20.08 to Clinton website
$20.08 donation complete. Happy Independence Day all PUMAs!
Annabelle. I put a link up above at #53 for a campground page. Don’t know anything more about it as I don’t camp but may give you a start
I listened to some of both radio broadcasts from last night and the night before- And I find it interesting how much more articulate PUMAs ( a diverse group in education, class, circumstances etc) compared to the Obamabots who spew “He’s Da Man” and other meaningless stuff when interviewed- Of course why is this surprising seeing the empty slogans and promises Obama camp runs on?….good job Murphy and all PUMAs – -
@73 that is outrageous you had to experience that
Today we celebrate Independence Day. These self evident truths have been at the very core of the foundation of the USA. T
These truths are also the basis of this movement. ‘We have declared our independence from the DNC and party hypocrisy that slammed the doors of the institution in front of Hillary’s nose in favor of a self declared and delusional false liberator.
We are free from the bondage of party ties. Free to follow our conscience to support and care for our candidate and help her rise from the ashes where they tried to bury her because she truly cares about people and the fate of this nation. She is sincere and BHO is deceptive and unworthy of our trust.
He will lie and do everything to win. He stepped on Hillary and will step on anything that gets in his way. He is a presumptive selected nominee. But it isn’t over yet. God almighty has the last word.
I made my donation. I hope PUMAs all over the States are able to set her free, today.
Murphy, I listened to the first 30 minutes of last night’s online interview. Thank you so much for addressing the accusations that are coming out of those who are running scared from the PUMA PAC(k).
You did an excellent job.
morning anti…..sherry is here but she’s lurking again
–am now listening to your radio interview, Murphy. Great job. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/)
Re: Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/us/politics/04policy.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
“His two statements in Fargo, N.D., reflected how the changing dynamics in Iraq have posed a challenge for Mr. Obama, who is trying to retain flexibility as violence declines there without abandoning a central promise of his campaign: that if elected, he would end the war.”
[Even Huffington is hitting BO on this.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgsZOxOwlo
See post #43 for campground link closest to Denver convention
#94 Utahpuma,
Great idea. I love it!
Okay, I’m wondering if there can be a better coordination regarding the trip to Denver (?). I want to go, but need to know where everyone is staying. Also, camping could be fun, but will the campground have showers, toilets, etc? I would hate to go two or three days without a shower.
Can anyone address these concerns? Thanks.
#824 StarDust
You forget, Obama’s supporters are largely college-educated, while Hillary’s supporters are not. Hence the glaring disparity in the quality of our posts.
My sarcasm is showing this morning.
I just e-mailed all the politicians and news media with the e-mails about PUMAs going to Denver we got yesterday
Also just e-mailed the same politicians and news media with Annabel’s DECLARATION OF OBJECTIONS.
Mission accomplished!
#125 Taffy- Good Morning. Actually I have been emailing Marylandpuma with some ideas to coordinate the Denver protest. The info is so spread out and when new pumas come in that want to go it is hard to get all the info for them. Any ideas?
This maybe the best $25.52 I’ve ever spent. $20.08 for Hillary and $5.44 for McCain. I also put on the McCain page I was referred by B. Obama and the DNC. It’s going to be a great 4th!
It took me a few minutes to figure out the $5.44 was from this:
http://www.giveemhill.com/GreenRainForMcCain.asp
It’s a great idea
1 voice nobody except hillary (and probably Bill, Chelsea, and her mother) really know Hillary’s plans. Interesting that bb hasn’t been parading her like he said he would. Hmmmm
Hey PUMAS! I wanted to share this video that someone made for Hillary. I know you’ll love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESUj1PNyQbU
#130 Stella49- I’m trying to get some answers for you.
#125 Taffy:
Thanks for the effort. Really, if this is going to be successful, there’s needs to be more prep. work regarding where to stay, meet, etc.
I’ve said from the moment “the annointed one” was shoved into his current (hopefully temporary) position, that we needed to stage a modern day Boston Tea Party. I immediately sent an email out to my contacts list stating such – suggesting we all take action to ensure our country is safe from his brand of politics. At the time I didn’t know what to do… it just had to be done. Thanks for being a major catalyst in bringing this plan of action all together. Imagine how the the history texts will read 20 or 30 years from now. Our children’s children will be able to say, “I know someone who was there!”
Our founding fathers were brilliant in penning these words that were not only applicable then, but were destined to transcend time and events to shine a guiding light for the preservation of this great democracy. THANKS for posting them today!
All that’s necessary for the triumph of evil is that good
men do nothing. –Edmund Burke
Oh Murrrrrrphy
Growl’s in your email.
Waiting on you.
When I click on mrphy@pumapac.org, my mail is returned. Anyone know why?
sherry. i think we need another link under the actionpac. everything everybody needs to know about buses, where to stay, what to bring, etc. I also got to thinking people might want a small folding chair/stool. Standing for hours is exhausting and if they are like me sitting on the ground and trying to get up again ain’t like it used to be
Glad you back with the pack!
stella you left out “u” in murphy
#130 Stella
The Denver group has been posting accommodation suggestions (with links) on their site.
There are campgrounds with rental cabins and rental RVs, sleeping anywhere from 2 to 6 people.
I’d like to get to Denver early and volunteer with … whatever. So I’m hoping the Denver group will post volunteering opportunities.
Bottom line though, as long as we have a basic schedule of where and when to congregate, I’m good.
Oh……thanks.
Great Comment (excerpted below) on “The Fix,” Chris Cillizza
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/07/who_won_the_week.html#comments
Well.. we got a ground pounder CLARK jumping all over the Flyboy McCain. Clark with all due respect… DID NOT SPEND time in a PRISON camp.. Typical GENERAL Officer comments about leadership and etc, from a Brilliant West Pointer.
King Obama continues to show his true leanings on key issues and that he is the typical politician wanting only to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES no matter what it takes, what he has to say or how much he has to SPEND for each American Vote.
It appears we can expect more of the same in Washington instead of the ‘change’ he continues to advocate in his preachings.
As we learn more about his ‘Chicago Style’ of politics… perhaps we will dream of a Powell for President or even Edwards.
The real loser this week continues to be
the American People. We continue to lose at the gas pump, at the grocery store, and on the home front.. Because our politicians continue to march to their own drummer.
Forget the Constitution, forget the taxpayer, forget Truth, Justice and the American Way. Just remember… we are elected to this job and we are accountable to NO ONE.. just our party and our re-election campaigns.
This just in!!!
OBAMA WANTS TO APPEAR AT THE MILE HIGH STADIUM (BRONCOS) IN DENVER, RATHER THAN CONVENTION CENTER.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/04/obama-may-accept-nomination-at-nfl-stadium/#comment-1327470
HIS EGO IS SO BIG, HE NEEDS AN EXTRA 50,000 SEATS.
THIS IS CLEARLY A WAY TO AVOID PUMAS AND HILLARY PROTESTERS. I AM SURE THAT WITH 50,000 EXTRA SEATS, NONE OF US WILL BE ADMITTED.
Here, click this: murphy@pumapac.org
Do you think it is wise to notify media ahead of time of our plans? I’m just saying the best defense is a great offense. You don’t realize that they could sabotage us as far as lodging, permits, police presence etc. I think we should plan between ourselves, put the plan into action, then notify press etc. They will just be waiting to throw us in that cage. Got to act like a PUMA and strike when they least expect.
firebelle welcome and happy 4th!
stella, you spelled my name wrong! sniff.
it’s murphy
thanks!
p.s. light posting today as I will be reintroducing myself to my family a bit today and tomorrow.
Happy 4th Everyone!
Just another idea for staying in Denver. I used to work for a university in Alaska years ago, and during the summer many of the universities or colleges with empty dorm rooms, will rent their rooms out really cheap, they use to be about $25 a night for two, with fridge, microwave, bath and two beds.
DENVER UPDATE POSTED AT THE TOP OF THE POST.
PLEASE READ AND RETURN HERE!
MP — checking now!
#59 Utah Puma Wow! I’m impressed. Something to motivate all of us to do the same.
Just donated againg to Hillary’s campaign, this time to retire her debt. Love and respect you Hillary.!!!
Mile high would be better, we could blend in then strike! they couldnt cage us up! More room for us to roam lol
I got an email from the Obama campaign. I don’t know where they got my address from, but no matter; I replied to unsubscribe and told them I cannot, in good conscience, support an unready candidate or the party who ran out the more qualified candidate. I’ve gotten some paper mailings from them and the DNC, too, asking for contributions. To each one I replied with a photograph of my hand holding my voter’s registration form indicating “No Party”, and I wrote the same message on the back of the photo that I sent to the the Obama campaign this morning. I also include the URL of this blog, in case there are disaffected Democrats working the campaign who don’t know where to go and think they have no other options but to “fall in line”.
I donated to Hillary’s debt just now and to the bus to Denver fund last night. The radio interview was great. I find the fact that BOites are trying to sift through Murphy’s life to, I guess, prove she is not pure enough very creepy. So what if she gave money to McCain do you all remember McCain was seriously considered as a VP for Kerry? What is this DNC need for purity as defined by Obamaites when their own behavior is so sexist, power grabbing and hate filled. Personally In this election cycle I would rather be called Republican than DNC affiliated. In reality I consider myself a Independent who 75% of the time votes Democrat.
Thanks for the reply taffy. I am holding out hope that she will stand up and shock everyone that day!
There are some people that are saying that she will be our next President and have NO doubts about it. No matter what happens-history will eventually tell the truth about the corruption in our Democratic Party.
I am sooooo proud of everyone that is standing up for what they believe! I am usually the outcast for doing that-this is great. Feels good to have company!
our busses could just roll up to the front, like we came to see the annointed one lol….Think like a cat lol
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Carry on Warrior PUMAs.
This is Gold.
The New York Times.
New and Not Improved.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/opinion/04fri1.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Wonder if Fred can get some confetti made up with Hillary on it?
#142 Taffy- I agree with you on the link to the action center. Marylandpuma is working with Murphy on the buses but the rest is up to the individuals. Maybe someone will volunteer to organize info on the other things needed so that they can give the info to Murphy to post at the action center? Organizing is not my strong points so I am not a good choice.
John McCain campaign is buzzing with donations from Hillary supporters come on folks lets give the DNC something to talk about..donate $5.44 or more just include .44 at the end don’t tell us we are FALLING in line
https://www.johnmccain.com/Contribute/ContributeB.aspx
SBwa-This guy is past obnoxious! Yes of course that’s what his plans are. He is always 2 steps ahead. We have to figure out a way to coordinate and suprise them because they will always find a way to respond to keeping us quiet otherwise.
maybe, if someone gets a room, put out an email if you want roomies to help split costs and everyone go from there?
msbinmd
please email me a new addy for the GROWL. I removed your corrupt email from the list.
#164 continued… Forget the action center idea for details on Denver trip per Marylandpuma due to this being an open forum. I think we still need organizer but info must be exchanged through emails and ims.
#125 Taffy,
Good afternoon. Sherry, stop lurking and come out and play!
MURPHY: Thank you for putting that quote up there… wowo, but I must give credit where credit is due… thank you post #36 lotts1948 for first introducing this in the thread.. I just took it and ran with it… sent it off to news orgs and politicians, dnc, etc…
For our Hillary,
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Love to you all
#103….. TO ADD TO YOUR EMAIL ADDIE LIST:
loudobbs@cnn.com
Marylandpuma makes excellent points.
Final plans will be made OFFLINE.
Please send questions about denver to denverquestions@pumapac.org
Please do some research before sending questions, and be patient. We will be posting a FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT PUMA PAC DENVER soon.
Please only send questions that are either personal or that you believe should be kept private.
Thank you!
Happy Birthday America!
I, like so many of you, will be very busy today but I wanted to ask a question and I will check back later tonight to see if someone can answer.
In light of the fact that Hillary has removed *61 from her website and in light of the fact that we are doing everything we can to pay down her debt – how do you interpret this hint from her 60th birthday party?
Quoting from the clintondems website:
“A roar of applause greeted the Clintons as they entered the venerable theater to the strains of The Who’s “I’m Free.”
Can someone find the words to this song? I don’t think it’s mere happenstance that they chose to play it!
Following the post about Hillary’s birthday party and the celebrities in attendance is a poll about who should be Hillary’s third party spokesperson to get behind her and push for her nomination at the convention. I say BILL, obviously! Let’s let him know how much we appreciate him and support them both!
Grrowl PUMA PAC!
An interesting FORM-LETTER REPLY
Subject: Thank You For Your Contribution
To: ____________
Dear Kathleen,
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at http://www.hillaryclinton.com/joinme
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I really didn’t like Donna Brazilles response to fellow PUMA e-mails, telling them to STOP THE HATE. But today I reconsidered what she had to say and made a donation towards that effort on her behalf to John McCain. Now I will e-mail her and let her know…that she can stop the hate. $5.44
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Daily Growl is released from captivity.
Check your email!
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#170 Antifish – Good morning. I have been emailing Marylandpuma with some ideas and also tried to find some answers for some new pumas. I need to get some personal work done today so may be offline for awhile but will be in and out during the day.
Let’s see this day as a celebration of the beginning of Hillary’s Independence from beaniebobo.
Rise Hillary Rise!
IMPORTANT. I just added a note to the DENVER UPDATE. Please INCLUDE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER in your “gotodenver” email. This is a safety and organization precaution. We would only call you if necessary.
thanks!
#59 I just sent it to the Chicago Sun Times. Will look up San Francisco and do that, too!
Also, just some feedback on the caucus fraud and voter intimidation inquiry taking place in Austin next Monday. I can’t go but I hope that many do. If you have a story to tell (I told mine
) it’s best to send it in an email to drlynettelong@aol.com.
After I filled out my information and posted my comments to the Texas Democratic Party website ( and my comments were very much pro-Hillary) I received an email asking me to volunteer to canvas my neighborhood and solicit five friends to campaign for Obama. Aaugh!
Infuriating!
p.s. thanks prplvette!
heck, just send the donation in Godzilla’s name. That would be a hoot.
Probably illegal tho.
Just saw on FAX that google has een ordered to turn over youtube video info. I am assumming that means addy’s that have viewed specific videos??? Anyone know who they have to turn this info over to? And why?
Forward the GROWL to all your friends and family – let’s give her the INDEPENDENCE from the ties that bind.
It’s a glorious new day.
VA PUMA
Please email me.
Thanks,
MarylandPUMA
Action idea!
Please mail or e-mail the Declaration of Objections to Gov. Rendell’s office.
Governor Edward G. Rendell’s Office
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html
#179 texassherry,
I can’t stay here long either. Gotta go out and get some paper for my printer so I can growl fiercely next week.
On another note. I don’t know if it’s desperation but I received three mailings from the Obama campaign just in this past week. I also received two from the DNC and two from the DCCC. This volume has never happened before. Anyone else experiencing such an upsurge in snail mail? If you do, remember to spend their postage by printing Puma bucks and returning them in the pre-paid envelopes.
Just found this YouTube with beautiful pictures of Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea. And it’s marked as PUMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpBbGWvSf4&feature=user
#177 nhforhillary,
dont forget to make p.s. at the end of your letter stated that also Rush Limbaugh- the radio host that Donna Grorilla hates- just gets another Huge, Sweet Radio Talk Show Contract of almost $400 Million
PUMAS –
I think we owe a HUGE puma hi-five to MamaPumaMass, who has been working her PUMA tail to a nub getting membership at PUMA PAC organized, automated, and accurate, as well as getting messages out to ALL PUMAs. She stepped up and took on this MONUMENTAL task without being asked to.
HIGH PAW PAT to MAMAPUMAMASS!
Huge puma hi-five to MamaPumaMass!!! Thank you so much for all you do.
And another great one I hadn’t seen. Has a lot of her last speech in it as well as pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4p0t_PnjVs&feature=related
I am white; my son is black. We took a cab the other day with a driver, black, who had transported us several times. He said he heard the schools in our city were good. I said they were very racist, just like the city. He lit up. ‘Well, we can hope Barack Obama is President; things will change.’ I corrected him. ‘I pray he is defeated at the convention.’ He seemed surprised. I asked him why he would support a man who has no record. He tried to correct me. ‘He was a state senator.’ ‘Oh, yeah,’ I replied, ‘then why is there no RECORD from those years? No calendars; no e-mails; no phone messages; no files, computer or otherwise. Zip.’ Evidently, this absence of a paper trail struck him as unusual. ‘If this was true, the press would be all over it.’ I often hear this rationalized rebuttal to any information I present about Mr. Obama which, if true, would chip away at the listener’s support. And, having spent hours educating myself about the candidate, I am prepared to counter almost any rationalization flung at me. ‘FOX News began reporting on Reverend Wright as far back as March 2007. March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December. Then, in January 2008, videos of Reverend Wright began hitting the airwaves. From that point on, Senator Clinton received 500,000 more votes in the remaining primaries than Senator Obama.’ My biggest challenge in countering misinformation about the man is to keep his follower on point. The driver tried to obfuscate. ‘What does Reverend Wright have to do with Barack Obama as President?’ I was prepared for this. ‘I am not saying his minister has anything to do with his fitness for office; I am saying that, for some reason, for 10 months the MSM did not report on an issue and then, when they did, the overwhelming majority of voters determined this issue made Ms. Clinton a more suitable candidate than Mr. Obama.’ As he helped us out of the cab with our groceries, I told him that, my son supported Senator Clinton, too. I said I asked him to sum up in his own words why he preferred her over Senator Obama. “Because she doesn’t give people the finger.” (More later. My son just informed me, he wants my home made macaroni and cheese for lunch.)
Virtual high-paw for MamaPumaMass!
Contribution Details
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Hillary Clinton was raised by PUMAs
Donated to the bus fund on the day the announcement was posted.
On to Denver!!
The Who – I’m Free
I’M FREE-I’m free,
And freedom tastes of reality,
I’m free-I’m free,
AN’ I’m waiting for you to follow me.
If I told you what it takes
to reach the highest high,
You’d laugh and say ‘nothing’s that simple’
But you’ve been told many times before
Messiahs pointed to the door
And no one had the guts to leave the temple!
I’m free-I’m free
And freedom tastes of reality
I’m free-I’m free
And I’m waiting for you to follow me.
Chorus:
How can we follow?
How can we follow?
Oops, forgot this link.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/11/sweet_web_column_obama_on_his.html
Hi PUMAs
Just wanted to let you know about this new group of HBOs supporters, who now don’t want to donate or help him at all. We should get in touch with them and make them feel welcome. What do you think? Here’s a link to the story.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5299337&page=1
I’ll be back later.
#193 Maryland PUMA
“PUMAS – I think we owe a HUGE puma hi-five to MamaPumaMass, who has been working her PUMA tail to a nub getting membership at PUMA PAC organized, automated, and accurate, as well as getting messages out to ALL PUMAs. She stepped up and took on this MONUMENTAL task without being asked to.
HIGH PAW PAT to MAMAPUMAMASS!”
High paw and growl out to MAMAPUMASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DancesWithRodhamPumas
Sent my PUMA emails yesterday, as well as a handwritten note of support to Bill Clinton, and a letter to one of my state’s superdelegates.My teens agreed to forego buying fireworks to donate $20.08 to retire Hillary’s debt. We agreed that it was a cool way to celebrate Independence Day and to be patriots.
I had an interesting discussion with the young staffer at my Congressional rep’s (i.e. superdelegate) office the other day. I try to remember that these staffers tend to be idealistic college kids who could be open to hearing the “other side” if it’s explained respectfully to them. This particular young man agreed with me that it’s troubling that BO didn’t debate in the later part of the primaries and agreed that the whole role of “superdelegates” in chosing the nominee is a troubling one that opens up the process for pressure and abuses. I think my congressional rep is a generally good guy who must’ve succumbed to pressure from above, and it sounds like other constituents have called in to complain too. I see these conversations as planting little seeds that hopefully will grow like weeds.
My teens agreed to forego buying fireworks this year so I could afford another donation to retire Hillary’s debt. $20.08 sent right after midnight on July 4. As hard as these events have been, it’s been a great opportunity for my kids to recognize problems in the political system and to think about what patriotism is truly about.
Thanks PUMAS. Happy Independence Day!
Sorry for repeating myself!
MamaPumaMass,
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you do for the Pumas. High Five to ya!!!
#189 annabelle
I tried posting the information on Gretawire, I tried the whole message and it wouldn’t post, I then split it into 2 parts, they did post part 2 which are the Objections, and Resolutions. Yeah!!
Hi guy’s just sent Declaration Objections to all news media and sent $20.08 to help free Hill. Hope you guy’s have a great 4th. # 85 Annabellep, thank you for the use of you eloquent words.
#45
Two weeks ago they were saying that Hillary was too much of a CENTRIST, and not a liberal democrat! They labeled him as being too liberal.
Guess who NOW wants to take her place, yet again!! He knows Hillary won the nomination and now takes all her positions to keep her from (ha ha) coming back! If it weren’t so sad, it would be truly laughable. Doesn’t he have a thought of his own? Guess NOT.
I gave $20.08 to retire the debt. Hop on, if you can!
HAPPY FOURTH!
GROWL POWER
greta
Big High-Five Paw to MamaPumaMass!!
Thank you #206 and 207! And anyone else I missed. Sending my e-mail to gotodenver@pumapac.org now!
#205 antifish
Have not been on here since early yesterday evening…so nice to see you on here.
Remember we have a plan to get our messages on 360
Hope you are having a great 4th!
Nice to see goanderson too!
(((((((((((((MamaPumaMass)))))))))))))))
# 206–the Objections and Resolutions are the best part. The other part is not very original, but very effective for reminding us of our common roots at the right time, when we are all thinking about it anyway on the 4th of July!
#131 Firebelle Puma on 07.04.08 at 12:22 pm, WROTE TO #824 StarDust,
[[ You forget, Obama’s supporters are largely college-educated, while Hillary’s supporters are not. Hence the glaring disparity in the quality of our posts.
My sarcasm is showing this morning.]]
That be me…. HS only… but I graduated at age 17… could have graduated at age 16, but *I* wouldn’t let one of my teachers put me ahead one year. Oh, and did I mention, I am probably an undiagnosed dyslectic. Hence my many typing errors. Cause if I didn’t correct what you arealdy see, by posts would look like this:
For score adn 7 yares ago….
Now tath is nt what I meant…
I ment….
LOL
Off to a PUMA friendly bbq. Everyone, have a fabulous day.
208 gordana.hill08
Not only is it disgusting and laughable for an inexperienced man to take on the policies and hard work of a woman that he essentially hates and works to destroy, it is so very typical of someone with no substance of their own, and who garners support from the ‘old boy’ club to again push the intelligence, strength and grace down, because they are afraid of it.
No offense to any men here, but this is deep rooted sexism. This time, we have been pushed too far.
Did I see you antifish? Hey, big puma paw hug to you.
Happy 4th to you all! Have a great day. Mine will be a busy one so I’ll get back here on Sunday!
I’m IN
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216 goandersen – totally right. This is classic all style and no substance guy co-opting a woman’s ideas to grab success and push her down
I have contributed to pay down the debt -$20.08 and to the Denver trip.
Go PUMA!!
Go to any Triple AAA store and get a Tour Guide of Denver. It will list hotels, motels, (dog accomodations etc), camping grounds, sites to see… anything and everything. And I think they are free. They will even map out your route and highlight a map if you are driving.
#213 – annabelle! hey. I loved your posts and your blog.
#68 Taffy
Thank you. Happy 4th.!
I have been anticipating this day for so long now. This is the day we Celebrate our Freedom and this is the day we give Hillary back her Freedom. I could care less about the hot dogs and parades and festivities today, it’s all about the debt and Hillary’s chance to really shine in Denver. It is our way of saying, so you think we’re gone huh……
I am headed over to Hillary’s page right now to give my 20.08. Then this evening, I’m going to do it again, just to make sure we get her out of the hole. Anyone want to join me by doing it again tonight? Please post it on any other blogs you go to today as well.
So, make your donation in the morning, enjoy the Fourth and tonight before you go to bed, light a candle and donate another $20.08.
Happy 4th everybody.
cosmeta – hello! thank you for all the info and your great posts. Would you from time to time email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com? I am trying to gather all the great ideas, but I will have trouble staying online this week. My little dragonflies will be visiting and they keep me darting around a LOT.
OK emails sent. I’ll try to find the cash for donations here in a few.
Special love to MommapumaMass and MarylandPuma for keepin us all in the loop.
Alright ladies! I live in AUS so can’t join the Denver trip, but have donated $15 to the bus fund so someone else can go. Go Pumas!
What are we supposed to send today?
Just one more thing, please don’t get angry with me, but…..There is a better chance than ever that Hillary will win at the convention in Denver. Not only are we angry with BO, but his own supporters are having buyers remorse. The reason I mention this is that I noticed some of you are already giving to McCain. Please, there is plenty of time for that AFTER the DNC Convention. If you give to McCain now and Hillary becomes our nominee, it’s like giving money to defeat Hillary. I beg of you to wait until after the August convention.
Dear Pumas,
Never despair about getting emails or solicitations for donations from the Obama camp or the DNC.
I love getting that stuff. It’s always a good excuse to reply with “Dream on” … or more explicit messages.
After all, I think I owe them the courtesy of letting them know I gave due consideration to their kind invitation to be included in such an important movement in our country’s history. And I wouldn’t want to be impolite by not responding.
Besides, it’s so thoughtful of them to let me know what they’re up to. That way I can pass on any meaningful information to my fellow Pumas.
******* PUMA ALERT ***********
I just got a very juvenille declaration of war from a kool-aid drinker. If you receive emails or repetitive SPAMs that are offensive to you, please forward them to me IMMEDIATELY. I need to grab the IP address so they can be reported to their service provider for harassment.
Thanks!
Hey I tried donating to the busses from the link on the action page, but I’m getting a page not found error…. eeesh help I can’t give much, but if I can’t get in I can’t give at all……
#230 gocleffnote, you are 100% correct. I am waiting until after the covention.
# 196 jbjd – awesome post. when you have time, would you share info on Mr. Obama with me via email at dragonflypuma@gmail.com? I am trying to finish a letter to Al Gore, which is becoming a position paper of sorts with all kinds of sources to support the points I am making. My goal is to have this letter approved to be a PUMA pac action so that we can all urge Mr. Gore to support Senator Clinton.
Thanks -
Dragonfly Rodham Puma
#214 cosmeta
You do quite well, my friend. And at least you *try* to write well … unlike Obama’s supporters.
You know, we could cover the high cost of college education in this country if we would force those “institutions of higher learning” to provide refunds each time someone is allowed to graduate without learning how to write like an intelligent human being.
Happy Birthday America & Happy 4th Pumas – I made my donation of 20.08 to Hillary on Tuesday – even tho not sure about voting for McCain – just made my 5.44 donation to him – referred by Obama, Dean, Pelosi & Brazille – will donate for PUMAPac ads & Denver bus trip next week – no bus for Minneapolis? – Welcome back antifish & goanderson – missed your wit
LOL @ Firebelle
I sure am glad we got you on our side.
#230 gocleffnote – agreed! If Hillary is not our nominee, I will contribute to McCain. Not before.
Rock on PUMAs! Hey Firebelle Hey Maryland Puma!
Anyone know what the polls are looking like between Obama and McCain?
Is Obama ahead?
I’m still hoping something changes for Hillary and she gets the nomination come August.
GO Hillary!!
When I try to e-mail Murphy at Murphy@pumapac.org my mail comes back to me. What is wrong?
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******* On the DENVER TRIP ************
We are in the beginning planning stages. We will provide bus transportation from select major transportation hubs across the US. At this point, accomodations and transportation to the bus pickup point is the responsibility of the individual PUMAs.
All other details are in the works. We must assess fundraising efforts in order to assess what we can do.
So………DONATE!
Details will be released to all PUMA members via email.
REMEMBER, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM.
PLEASE DO NOT discuss details on the blog – for obvious reasons. Use private IMs, Chats, or email to discuss amongst yourselves any details.
Any questions or suggestions – please contact me via email. You should know the edress by now. LOL
Carry on Warrior PUMAs.
Susie1945 – hey girl! Glad to see you.
Never mind, I think the problem is with my Comcast e-mail account. Works OK from this site via Outlook Express.
Stella49
Not sure. I’ve not had problems with it today. Something I can help with?
Hi pumas was just wondering if any one else is having trouble posting comments on you tube? Lately i just cannot seem to get past the comment pending approval. Was just wondering or am I being a little crazy. Guess it’s because i’m always making comments on the big ” O ” haha GROWLLL
I am hoping that there will not be any more blogs created. We need to focus our energies rather than dispursing them. Multiple sites dilutes our influence.
Regarding contributions to McCain. I’m not there.
May send a another contribution to Nader though.
It’s not always about winning, it’s also about raising issues.
Sent contribution to retire Hill’s debt. I wish we could get an updated figure on how much PUMA supporters has contributed. I’ll bet we’re making a dent.
Responce to ABC’s article about Obama supporters being upset about “centrist” views
Obama says that we should “Believe in Change’. So far the only change I’ve seen is him changing his mind every other week. Now we see him as he really is. Well, Obama, I am not your sweetie and you can “Keep the Change”!
Re: Denver – there was a excellent post regarding schools/colleges and using their dorms. That is definately worth looking into. Most places are more than happy to rent out their facilities and make a little money as well as keeping the sites occupied. Hope someone follows up on this.
Welcome back antifish and goanderson!!
Murphy, you continue to inspire and invigorate. Happy fourth of July to you and yours.
Made my $20.08 donation to Senator Clinton’s campaign debt relief. Remember there are still T shirts for sale–I ordered one of them as well. They cost $20.08 each.
I’m working on joining you in Denver–any other PUMAs from Oregon?
Well done to whoever put the picture of Hillary together on the Growl. Very nice artwork.
Donation Details
Confirmation number: 49V80677958652939
Donation amount: $15.00 USD
Total: $15.00 USD
Purpose: Busses
Contributor: James
ok its all I had so it went to the busses… I’ll have to wait till next time to help HRC’s debt retirement fund.
Ok time to go for the day… ya’ll keep strong and keep growling… Grrrrrrrrrr boom bang Grrrrrr
Faxed Declaration of Objections to Obama’s office. I tried Rendell’s office and it stopped in the middle, don’t know if someone turned off the fax machine. Surely, no one is there. I’ll try again.
#194 texassherry – hey, glad to see you. I saw that someone say that you might be leaving. Glad you’re here.
Sorry not to have more meaningful posts y’all. I am holding up my partner on going to lunch but trying to scan through the entries too.
Well, I had better fly away for now, PUMAs. Fight on.
Love to all of you – I am so proud to be a part of this group and so excited about what we are accomplishing. We are going to reform the Democratic Party and make this nation a better place – we’ll be the land of opportunity for ALL, including the South Chicago folks *61 left behind. Don’t forget Flineo’s videos on youtube. BRILLIANT.
ROAR on PUMAs.
#232 Maryland PUMA
Can I send all me e-mails from people expecting me to do work today? I find those most offensive of all
LOL TrishfromCanada!
#181 murphy on 07.04.08 at 12:47 pm, WROTE
[[ IMPORTANT. I just added a note to the DENVER UPDATE. Please INCLUDE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER in your “gotodenver” email. This is a safety and organization precaution. We would only call you if necessary.
thanks!]]
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Perhaps too… if anyone has a prior medical condition the Denver COORDINATOR should know that info also… in case that person passes out from heat or is not able to talk for themselves. Those around them should be aware of their condition to summond immediate help. I am especially thinking here of diabetics or those with high blood pressure, for example. And also a phone number of a family member or doctor etc.
I am also thinking,
You should put out a FORM with all the pertainent info for PUMA members to fill in… and perhaps a PUMA PAC disclaimer:
Make sure the bus companies are insured also.
MamaPumaMass
Thank you for everything you do, we greatly appreciate. It’s definitely a job that requires patience and a specific skill set and you do it very well. A big PUMA purr and smile just for you.
I sent my letter to Donna Brazille.
Dear Donna,
I’ve heard that you have not been very nice with your accustions of hate directed toward the PUMAS. I think that you may have an anger management problem. In an effort to help you to control your anger and to help you to STOP THE HATE, the only solution I could come up with was an intervention:
I know you will be pleased to know that this morning, the 4th of July, I made a donation on your behalf to the John McCain for President campaign. Doesn’t it cleanse your soul to support the only “elected” nominee in the Presidential race? Since you “think” that PUMAS are Republicans, you should be elated to know that I also donated $20.08 to Hillary Clinton to help retire her debt…hmmmm why would I do that?
Sincerely,
I wanted to vote for Hillary in the general election and I can’t vote for your “selected” nominee. It would not be “ETHICAL” or show good “JUDGMENT” on my part. It would be an INSULT TO DEMOCRACY…there’s still time to change!
xxxxxxxx in New Hampshire
Just posted our Puma pac “Thank you senator Clinton, we’ll take it from here” flyer all along the 4th of July parade route and at the
the plaza where an all day celebration is being held.
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#176 cosmeta all I can tell you is this is the same reply I got when I donated to her campign on June 3rd. So either they haven’t updated it or don’t plan too????
Sent to Pelosi & Dean. Am still trying to find a link to the San Francisco Chronicle so I can send to Editor.
Well we saw Nobama flip on Iraq yesterday. He made a speech then a few hours later was correcting his speech( kind of like michele not meaning for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country) only he blamed his words on senator McCain for priming the press.The announcer commented that he was doing alot of “flipflopping’ lately(DUH) I love it! I knew the true Nobama would surface but I did’nt know it would be so soon. Also on Hannity and Colmes , Karl Rove said : Obama is Untethered and Unanchored! He also said that Obama said something when he was campaigning (I can’t remember what it was) and he has flipped on that and Karl could not understand why McCain’s campaign was not all over it. I heard so much about his deceitful self yesterday I can’t sort it all out.
Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
Contact: Not your Sweetie
Amount: $20.08
voter fraud,
YouTube Search
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248 cconnell
Thanks.
jbjd #196
Wow, what a great story! Like you, I am collecting information to respond to *61′s people. I’m off to July 4th activities. However, when I return I’m getting back to my PUMA duties.
Happy Fourth of July to all our PUMAs!!!
256 TrishfromCanada
There you are!!
I just wanna open a big old can of whoop on post turtle!
#249 TrishfromCanada
Thanks.
#251 ladyhawkke on 07.04.08 at 1:40 pm, WROTE
[[ Faxed Declaration of Objections to Obama’s office. I tried Rendell’s office and it stopped in the middle, don’t know if someone turned off the fax machine. Surely, no one is there. I’ll try again.]]
It’s a holiday… and there will be no one there to FEED PAPER into the fax machine, especially it it’s set on automatic. Then again, I don’t know how those things work or if faxes are stored in a buffer. Ah well—
US Postal still more reliable…
!186 VA it was turned over to viacom. said because of copyright infringement, specifically south park and one other. don’t know what’s being done yet. But from what i understand they could go in and see all videos you’ve viewed. Big Brother at work! Aloha had all her videos scrubbed. People yesterday were saying some anti bb (big britches) videos are slowly going away and the discussion was how to capture some before they were gone.
269 Taffy
Let em look. Another scare tactic. We will not be silenced!
#176 Cosmeta I got the same reply; however, when I donated, there was a statement there that said this contribution was to be used only to retire her debt.
#260 ladyhawkke
use Dogpile as a search engine
type in california newspapers
find the one with “50 states” in the web address
it will list all california newspapers with links you
can click on. SF Chronicle is on there
You may have to look around the site for the editor, letters, or opinion links.
for those interested in checking out Nader (who is very vocal against Obama’s hypocrisy), his website is http://www.votenader.org
#85 I’ve been quoting and faxing your message also. Thanks for making it easy for us.
#266 goandersen
It is I. Just got back from lunch and it is very hot outside. I wish we were allowed to wear shorts and a tee to work, but when I recommended it to my boss he screwed up his face and said “uhmmm are you nuts” I took that as a maybe, ask me again later.
#261 Pookie on 07.04.08 at 1:46 pm…
Thing with his flip flops is… all the COLLEGE STUDENTS that are now on summer recess… should be made aware come the first thing in the FALL when they go back to school… lest they still think their rock star is still on their side.
For a Future Project folks:
Hit the College Newspapers.
#272 UtahPuma Thanks, I forgot about Dogpile. I was doing it the hard way.
#258 greenfun
You have earned your PUMA badge of “honor”!
Anyone know how much has already been raised toward Hillary’s debt?
#209 (((goandersen))) you did come back. just trying to get caught up on my reading.
#243 Dragonfly – thx – have been around – just not commenting too much – been checking other blog sites – too many to read all – also have been getting emails about meet up peeps here in the Twin Cities & free_me_now & women for fair politics – would love to go to Denver again – (advice – drink lots of water – helps the altitude sickness) – still have time to decide – looks like chicago is nearest bus point but that’s going east to go west – feels like *61 tactic
– anyway, still here just being a little quiet – least til something pushes my button………………………
275 TrishfromCanada
remember coolots?? LOL!
#281 Susie 1845
I was over checking out gretawire and came across this interesting but nothing I did not think would happen….the Chosen One is not what his ppl thought or think?
_____________________________________________
Comment by Will Chalker
July 4th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
IT BEGINS- Frustrated Obama supporters begin questioning their own candidate.
from a pro obama site
SkinnyMinnie July 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Obama wasn’t my first choice, but as the primary campaign progressed, he grew on me (mostly by treating the electorate as grown-ups instead of fearful children).
Now, I want a do-over. The FISA capitulation was bad enough, but now he’s walking back his commitment to get out of Iraq? What is wrong with him? Did someone kidnap David Plouffe and replace him with Mark Penn?
barbara July 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
“And as Obama decides to be all things to all people, and nothing to anyone…”
And thereby hangs the tale. Because I expected integrity from Barack Obama. I expected at the very least that he would be a fierce defender of the Constitution. Remember the “taught constitutional law” meme? He had my loyalty (okay, trickle down loyalty from Gore and then Edwards) and he has some of my money. There will be no more money (he doesn’t need it — he can afford to cover Hillary’s losses) and the loyalty thing is in limbo. And I’m a staunch Dem.
This is not looking good.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Support stops till Barack Obama keeps his word on key issues – fans
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/07/03/2008-07-03_support_stops_till_barack_obama_keeps_hi-2.html
Cooking With Grease… by Donna Brazille.
Publisher’s Weekly states about her book:
Brazile’s lifelong love affair with politics culminated in September 1999, when she became Al Gore’s presidential campaign manager. She was also the first African-American woman to head a mainstream national presidential campaign. Both achievements are the subject of this lively, sometimes moving memoir.
If one sees the glass half empty, Donna Brazile was also the first African-American to FAIL at heading a mainstream national presdential campaign.
When she finally wins at something big THEN she’ll have my most profound respect for acheivement. Until then frustration will be her middle name.
#282 – goandersen – now they’re called gaucho pants – and are just as ugly………………..
I’ve been donating to Hillary to help retire her debt, also donating to PUMA for buses to Denver, and donating a little bit to McCain. Does anyone know where Hillary is at at this point re: how much debt she has remaining? Also, what’s the penalty if she doesn’t pay it all by the upcoming deadline.
Also, sorry for being a numbers freak, but I’d love to know how our numbers are growing – not number of web site hits, but actually number of people who have joined.
interesting article on noquarterusa.net –NY Times editorial board not happy with S. Obama
Excuse. Forgot quotation marks bracketing ‘Brazile’s’ and ‘memoir’. Thank you, please.
Happy Independence Day felllow PUMAS!
For some reason, today the old song “Born Free” came to mind and I found this YouTube of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRXNmMkfI0
I donated to Hillary:
Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
Amount: $20.08
I sent the e-mails to politicians/media.
If you have not checked out the site for custom tees, please do (all proceeds pledged to pumapac):
http://218467.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/
If you have any ideas/suggestions for designs my e-mail is listed as contact on our action site!
KEEP GROWLING PUMAS!
#278 nhforhillary
Thank you-it was so satisfying too.
McCain couldn’t beat Hillary with all the money in the world . Hillary has gained respect from millions of conservative that were waiting to cast their votes for her in the GE…If McCain ran un-oppose he would lose the only way McCain could win if he runs against Obama. Donating to McCain will not hurt Hillary’s chances it will improve them the DNC will see we are not bluffing…$5.44 is a reasonable amount to send a wake up call to the DNC..IMO
#258 greenfun. Great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to all newcomers and welcome to post.
#230 gocleff the point is to donate a small amount 5.44 so DNC can see we CAN have an effect. we are not donating up to the 2300 limit.
#233 sych if you go to top of page and last night’s thread there is a link for the busses. That is what I used this morning.
{PumaResponders} Response item and useful info: “obama-backlash-in-his-online-backyard”
Comment string with form, 366 comments:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/obama-backlash-in-his-online-backyard/#respond
Obama Voters Protest His Switch on Telecom Immunity
By JAMES RISEN
Published: July 2, 2008
WASHINGTON — Senator Barack Obama’s decision to support legislation
granting legal immunity to telecommunications companies that
cooperated with the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping
without warrants has led to an intense backlash among some of his most
ardent supporters.
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If you’d like to be added to the pumaresponders email list, pls email 1950democrat/at/gmail/com
A happy 4th of July to all fellow PUMA’S, Received the daily growl and had my husband donate to Hillary. Also 5.44 to John McCain. Now I feel really great. Now i’m off be back tomorrow to our PUMA PAC family. Everyone enjoy and stay safe.
Dear Pumas,
I have an admission this morning. You know those solicitations I’ve been getting from Obama and the DNC? Well, they really feed my ego. Every time I get one, I feel that somebody wants me … or at least my money.
My therapist says it’s good for me. I have this strong need to feel wanted. To feel like I belong. To feel like I have something to contribute in this sometimes overwhelming world of ours.
And I can’t tell you how much it fills me with pride to know that the anointed one emails me so frequently. I mean, I just feel so *special*.
Whoever thought that such an unpopular kid would grow up to be sought out by the likes of Obama, Dean, and Brazile. I can’t wait to show all those kids who teased me in school how important and respected I’ve become.
Gosh, I’m just so giddy this morning.
Just saw in one of the little side boxes they now have on fox, MO with a microphone at the celebration in Butte. I thought BO and our gal Hillary were suppose to show up together in DC today?
I am also continuing to support Hillary Clinton for President in 2008. However, unless the right and just thing occurs at the Denver convention Senator Clinton will not be running. I am seriously looking at Ralph Nader’s candidacy. I have always admired him. Might be worth a gander for those that do not wish to vote for S. McCain http://www.votenader.org
#228 MadLogic
Bless you! You will be joining us in SPIRIT!
GROWL POWER
greta
I have to tell you about an experience I had yesterday when I went to gas up my car for the weekend.
As I pulled up to the pump a rather large man was standing next to his oversized SUV as his tank was being filled. I have PUMA logos on my rear windows
and some Green Party Bumper stickers. He walked over , read them, and commented: “PUMA huh. You’re not very smart.” I pointed to my car ( which is a Prius and had a full tank by then ) and responded, ” over 50 mgh. I’m pretty smart.” I then drove off and left him still waiting for his tank to fill.
#296 Firebelle Puma. Oh indeed you are special, love your post
I sent the Declaration of Objections to a bunch of people on my e-mail list. Two friends told me to take them off my list as they did not share my political views. Still waiting for the rest. I just can’t believe how many people are STUPID!! That’s how Bush got elected and and those who voted for him are now saying they made a mistake. Same for Nobambi, he’s a big mistake.
#299 gordana.hill08. Go pumas. Fill upyjose buses, it’ll be a wonderful experience.
oops, up those buses
300 mpdamon
excellent smack down! LOL!
For me it’s Hillary in 2008! There is no other period!
Was going to give $5.44 to McCain just to have the $$ show he got more than *61 but then this big PUMA Angel with a
came out of nowhere, smacked me on the side of the head and said, “Have faith, Believe and It Will Be!”
So now every moment I keep “Knocking on Heaven’s Door!” I am a humble month old PUMA!
NoMoreInFL Rodham PUMA
Murphy,
Can I get consideration for a bus from Atlanta? Please????? I think it would be a lot of fun to ride to Denver with a busload of Pumas.
Confirmation Number: xxxxxxxx Placed on Jul. 4, 2008
Purpose Donation
amount
BUSES TO DENVER $50.00 USD
No, that isn’t a bribe!
#263 Cosmeta: Re: voter fraud I live in Indiana and although Hillary won Indiana 50.7%-Nobama 49.3% she was far ahead of him until Lake county (which is 35 minutes from the heart of neighboring Chicago) came in but the results were so late that the news did’nt have them until early morning hours after the primary a lot of people thought something was not right the mayor of Lake County came on the air waves protesting You will get the count when I get them we have a lot of paper it takes time so Lake co. was Nobama 56% Clinton 44%. In the Southern counties Hillary was far ahead (ex.) 56%-44% , 69%-31%, 59%41% this was all thru the Southern counties .So my point being Yes I believe it is possible to have voter fraud. I read a quote the other day I don’t remember who said it but it went like this:The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything.Now that is sad.
#300 mpdamon
Love your story!
#301 MadLogic
Really? You think I’m special? Even though I’m a poor, misguided Puma who can’t support the anointed one?
307
Murphy
…and San Francisco Bay Area please!!
Happy 4th of July everyone.
I just got pulled in yesterday Denver signage.. I am not so involved in Denver besides reading what is going on.
I can’t go because of business in Vegas but trying to see if I can get a flight and sneak off for a day or two.
Murphy has mentioned instead of stiff signs or banners, lets go with the vinyl pin on “sign”(12 x 12 inches white vinyl with red or blue text or any color text ) so that it can be used for shade, waterproof and best of all you can pin with safety pin and unpin it to hold up as a banner if you want. Don’t have to smuggle as you would a card sign or banner. I think it is a good idea and was working till 3 am – getting a quote. Really good quote for a lot of qty.
They asked for a sample to print out to show us but I drew a blank.. Murphy threw out a few that was OK but I would like some other suggestions. Please bear in mind it has to be legible from far, have impact and not nasty – you will be wearing it on your T-shirt.
So far, I have the few below. The ones for PUMA will have logo but in order to print 5,000 – 10,000 to get a great price, we can share with other like minded sites but I don’t know how that can be coordinated. We can also use left over for November. But If only for group going to Denver, then we can print it locally depending on qty needed. I think having other website/blog members wear this uniform “sign” will show unity among us.They can always write in who they “belong” to. i hate to belabor this banner issue but I would love some imput.
Zee from yesterdays blog mentioned yellow police type tape tied as a sash. I think it is impractical .
NO THIEF FOR CHIEF – submitted by Fello PUMA
VOICE OF THE VOTERS!
SELECTED NOT ELECTED!
The circle with slash in red with OBAMA (my suggestion)
Hey all!! Happy 4th Pumas!!! I hardly blog here, but I always read your very encouraging posts and I am active in our own newly set up website – hillaryvillagers which is part of the Pumapac/JustSayNoDeal coaltition. I am just posting today to let you guys know I am with you guys all the way!!!
Heres my Independence Day gift to Hillary and also to you all and the rest of America! Having Hillary debt -free and ready to take them on at the Denver convention is the best gift we could have at this point, because it gives us a promise of hope that our girl will still prevail in the end!!!
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
DATE: July 4, 2008 1:09 PM EDT
NAME: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ADDRESS: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AMOUNT: $20.08
Have a wonderful July4th everyone!! God bless America!!!
Maria in NJ
I received an email from McCain asking for a donation and a comment on what I thought of NoNames emerging changes. I said ” he was a natural born arrogant self serving idiot with a Harvard degree. What more can I say!!”
Then I donated $10.08 I like to cover all of my bases.
#310 Firebelle Puma. Absolutely!
goandersen…This morning my partner of 22 years gave me two birthday cards, a big pot of zennias for the lanai, and a cartoon cut out of the newspaper about post turtle…it goes like thislllll
” This is a news alert with breaking news on Obama!” (the pix is of a group of MSM, the guy with microphone says ” GASP! This is HUGE, He’s tying his own shoes!!!” (of course there is a not so pretty likeness of the post turtle tying his shoes!) Thought you’d get a hoot out of this one!
I’m off to donate my $20.08.
BE BACK. glad to see you and anti back where ya belong!
#240 rlp33
If you look at the different polls, they make no sense whatsoever. The seem to be al over the place!
As I understand it, the polls are only for the benefit of the pollsters and those whom they represent – there’s a purpose to their madness, after all! They would like you to think otherwise. I often like to play their games by detracting from what I think they are looking for.
GROWL POWER!
greta
Wow, Fred, thanks for all your hard work! On this and other things.
I vote for “VOICE OF THE VOTERS” as I think it best states our purpose, and we are trying to get that msg out there!
HI, Fred,
Just peeked in to see your request. I like
Voice of the Voters or Selected Not Elected. I think the other is too negative and I think we have to be more positive in our message at the convention.
Just my 2 cents. You are awesome–thanks for doing all that you do!
316 SusyT
LOL! Wish I could see it!
thanks
My tee shirt idea-
White with a big blue capital H 2008 (for Hillary) on back and front.
Maryland Puma – Murphy was asking if PA4HILL08 got my poster(flyer) uploaded…
I don’t know PA4Hill’s email. IF you have it, pls ask her to email or perhaps you can forward it to her to put it online. Becca Puma emailed me to say sh is printing it out to hand out in Orlando today. She is doing it herself so I told her to be careful.. We should give her a round of applause.
Happy Independence Day!
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
DATE: July 4, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
NAME: Mary Jo, a passionate Hillary Supporter
ADDRESS:
AMOUNT: $20.08
#251 ladyhawke! You faxed it to Obama’s OFFICE? You are MY NEW HERO!!!!!
#312 Fred
Thank you for all you are doing for PUMA!
- Selected Not Elected -
I think this is the strongest statement, it
voices our stand on the selectee as well as the DNC/RBC shenanigans.
June 30-July 2 Gallup Poll Daily tracking results:
47% (Obama) to 43%
#296 firebelle you are in top form again I see
Have you heard from sunnypa? haven’t seen her recently.
Fox news today:
Obama to campaign at Nascar Race
Someone need’s to ask him how that worked out for Bill Lester!
hi all happy 4th. Glad we are all togeather again.I know its hard to all be seen,I have felt it too but always know your in our hearts and family.
#316 SusyT,
Hey there. It’s good to be back!
HAPPY 4th – all – have not read any posts yet – but just finished a project that I HOPE ALL will assist me on – I know you will Dragonfly, Andersen, Antifish – LizzyinCt, Mac, Shorttermer, but if we could have the response as yesteday with the 1200 emails would make a difference – SUBJECT is Superdelegates – several yesterday were asking who and where to contact them – I had sent out hundreds the other day to both Hillary Clinton and Undecided – however AOL had some kind of problem – and they all came back with the individuals PERSONAL email addresses – I had sent them through LobbyDelegates.com so I will list them by State the all have to have aol.com typed on the end of them – if I did it here this would never post – I will do a 2nd posting with others that are not aol – PLEASE HELP ME – if these sds continue their support or if they have swayed over to the other side for the time being but come back home – this will help us – All you have to say in the email is Thank you for your past support of Hillary R. Clinton and could we count on you to continue until the Denver convention – you can sign it Puma or your own name – however you wish
Georgia – Superdelegate Dabbs – caroledabbs@
DC – Brown – mytbrown@aol.
Iowa – Opstvedt ibew55@
Louisiana – Arceneaux Pbarcen@ Winters – mlwinters2000@
Florida – Ceasar – goodhumor5@ – Brady – dtutbrady@
Mohlke – framoh@
New Mexico – Denish ddenish@
Penna – Rudy – rudyruthguy@ – Donatucci – ronalddonatucci@
Utah – Hale – maywood7@
Missouri – Querry – sandraq3@
New York – Schaffer – rs7242@ — Zimmerman – zimmed@ Weingarten – randiweingarte@
Rhode Island – Montanaro – riaflcio@aol
Minn – Stevenson – jaxter34@
Massachusetts – Kamarck – MaKamarck@
Virginia – Spruill – Dellspruill@
New Jersey – Fischer – jsfhbf1@
Ohio – Jones – stjcampaign@
Texas – Lovell – sulovell@
Maryland – alvaroccifuentes@
Turnbull – turnbullnc@
North Carolina – Burgess SBurg346@aol
Tennessee – Owen – wandgowen@
Thanks for helping – Alu Rodham Card -
Others will be posted next
275 TrishfromCanada
lol ok see I remember gauchos but not coolots. I remember when I was a kid my oldest sister had a holly hobby pantsuit, lol laughing here thinking of that
Any buses from the Northwest —Seattle or Portland or ??? –I live in NE Oregon…Routes from either of those cities would go through my area.
“I joined PUMApac today, and sent in a contribution. Thanks for lighting the way! -kw”
Letting people know about PUMA works.
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
DATE: July 4, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
NAME: Susy T
ADDRESS:
Jacksonville, FL 32256
AMOUNT: $20.08
#131 MariainNJ,
Thanks for the help in retiring Hill’s debt. Don’t be such a stranger in the future.
mpdamon your gasoline tale may be the best read I’ve had all morning. Good for you.
Is there a way we could get to see or know all that is happening at convention would be so super. I want to go but cannt.Dr. said no so you guys will have to be our eyes and ears.
#307 anti…maybe there is a way to get Jacksonville bus to make a stop in atlanta. If reservations were made in advance they would now how much space to reserve. Drivers have to stop anyway
Murphy, several PUMA’s have requested information about how best to respond to talking points from supporters of Senator Obama including the DNC leadership. I want to volunteer as a source of rebuttals for the common objection to the PUMA stance that the DNC should apportion delegates from Florida and Michigan to the candidates as voted, which objection often is based on an argument referencing the “rules.” My experience shows that if I can dislodge even one bedrock stance, eventually, the rest just naturally give way.
332 TrishfromCanada
I wonder if Hillary as one of those? lol
#327 Taffy
Thanks. Yes, my sarcastic soul is emerging again today. Must be the anticipation of seeing an old flame this afternoon.
No, I haven’t heard from SunnyPA lately. But she told me she would be out of town until July 6.
anti, I’m so glad you and goAndersen are here…even though I sometimes don’t post…I check in daily and look for links to stay educated…the humor you both bring to our site is something I look forward to!
ditto on #318 & #319 or “Yes to Popular Vote”
Sent my bus contribution via PayPal. I’m planning on being in Denver.
How about a simply sign saying in big letters “NO”
and then underneath “(not Obama)”
i.e. NO
“not Obama”
and then wearing a Hillary t-shirt?
I think the Hillary t-shirts are still for sale on her website.
Part Two
Michigan – Ficano – Rfiscano@co.wayne.mi.us
Brewer – mbrewer@mi-democrats.com
Hawaii – Port – portr001@hawaii.rr.com
Abercrombie – neil.abercrombie@mail.house.gov – use zip code 96701 in text
Withington – jeaniwithingon@aol.com
Texas – Hardt – dhardt@advancedartusa.com
Florida – Hastings – info@alceeforcongress.com
Martinez – raul@martinezfernandezpr.com
R. Island – Fowler – don@fowlercommunications.com
Pa – Kanjorski – vote@kanjorski.org
New Mexico – Sanchez – rgslaw1@qwest.net
Washington – Sims – ronsims@comcast.net
That will do it – thanks everyone.
Alucard Rodham Puma
343 (((((((((SusyT)))))))))) Hugs
FRED
I’ve downloaded your and your husband’s great poster with the intention of resizing and printing for distribution.
What size is the original in inches?
Thanks again for your great work!
#341 goandersen
It’s not over til Holly Hobby says it is!
#333 k in the northwest
Let’s stay in touch–I’m from the central Oregon coast. There is another group (18 Million March) from the Portland area organizing a Denver trip that I’ve contacted. We may be able to get on their bus.
Can we find out Hillarys debt amount? I dont want the golden boy comeing in at last min. acting like the knight by paying last little bit.DNC is raising nothing almost May was great. McCain did double Obama DNC AND RNC counted in too.
#339 Taffy,
That’s what I’m hoping. It wouldn’t make sense for me to go to Jacksonville to catch the bus. It’s five hours out of the way.
#312 and all present
Happy 4th!
Fred, thanks for all your hard work!
I vote for “SELECTED NOT ELECTED” Although I would add Hillary’s name somewhere or NOBAMA just to make sure they understand we are for Hillary and not Obama.
Just checking in to see if I can post at this site. I posted last night but never saw my post go through. Was looking for people from Hillaryclinton.com. There were some familiar names here last night.
Antifish
You need to send me your e-mail to Trish738@yahoo.com just in case.
#354 gay gal
Hi gaygal I think I remember you form over there, I was DoTheMath
I may not be able to make it to Denver due to health reasons and I’m real sad.
I sooo want to be there.
Grrrr…I might just be there anyway!
354 gay gal
Hey girl! Love your artwork!
Oops! Thank you.
by have a great day all Happy 4th
#334 Dances,
Was that someone you sent an email to?
Just ordered a red PUMA shirt..how long does it take to get them? Anyone know???? Also…I’m looking for PUMAs in Jacksonville…are there any here today?
#313 Fred I still like “WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER” it’s a win-win threating if dnc goes ahead rewarding if they do the right thing and nominate Hillary
Black letters on white. white will reflect heat Tee shirts can be a different color. maybe yellow for Hillary flowers or bright red so easy to find each other
“Thought for Independence Day” and
“Diss me Donna!”
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
OMG… has anyone seen this link yet? My apologies if it’s been posted before. I haven’t had time to read through all the posts yet. But this is a report back in time when McGovern was running. The similarities to today are striking.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8663355
This web site as a contact list you can download (word or excel) that lists all the superdelegates and who they support, incuding those who switched from Clinton to Obama. I would urge everyone to contact those sd’s to make your case as to why they should switch back to Clinton.
Also, I spoke to a wonderful person at LobbyDelegates.com yesterday who informed me that normally at this point, the service that allows a person to contact superdelegates by state and candidate would have been taking down, but because there has been so much continued activity (mostly by Clinton supporters), they’ve decided to keep it up. Make sure you contact them to thank them. Also, be aware that they’re a non-profit and they send the letters via fax, which is a long distance call, so when they request a donation when you try to send your first letter, be as generous as you can (I know we’re all hard up for money right now, but…)
#247 As far as the dorms are concerned, school will be back in session. They go back on Aug 16
So good to be back in the loop. Been out there on some pretty negative blogs. Processing some anger, as we all have. Needed to rant to get through grief to get to healing. I love the collective focus of Puma Pac, and thank you for your hard work. Hello again andersen.
#360 jane-pa. With Hillary’s debt, i think someone said before that the figures will be released by a due date, not sure when.
blog post from Riverdaughter
The Path that leads to Nowhere
Corinne Roosevelt Robinson
THERE’S a path that leads to Nowhere
In a meadow that I know,
Where an inland island rises
And the stream is still and slow;
There it wanders under willows
And beneath the silver green
Of the birches’ silent shadows
Where the early violets lean.
Other pathways lead to Somewhere,
But the one I love so well
Had no end and no beginning—
Just the beauty of the dell,
Just the windflowers and the lilies
Yellow striped as adder’s tongue,
Seem to satisfy my pathway
As it winds their sweets among.
There I go to meet the Springtime,
When the meadow is aglow,
Marigolds amid the marshes,—
And the stream is still and slow.—
There I find my fair oasis,
And with care-free feet I tread
For the pathway leads to Nowhere,
And the blue is overhead!
All the ways that lead to Somewhere
Echo with the hurrying feet
Of the Struggling and the Striving,
But the way I find so sweet
Bids me dream and bids me linger,
Joy and Beauty are its goal,—
On the path that leads to Nowhere
I have sometimes found my soul!
#355 Trish,
Done.
#370 antifish
Thank you
TRISH grab goal’s posts at #331 & #336!!
#312 Fred
I think “Voice of the Voters” speaks to our overall message.
But one quick question would “Voices of the Voters” make it stand for more ppl since all can not go to Denver and could the color of the text be multicolored/tiedyed/swirl? of red and blue outlined in navy or black against white t shirt? JMO
THANK YOU for all your hard work and late hours being put into this.
I vote for Voice of the Voters with the circle with the red slash through Obama
Trish sorry that was #346 great for the spreadsheet!
331/346 Drac
I will work on it today. Thanks Bud.
Hey Gay Gal – glad to see you found us here.
Small acts for independence 1) $20.08 USD
Total: $20.08 USD
Purpose: BUSES TO DENVER 2)
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
Hillary debt reduction
DATE: July 4, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
NAME: xxxx
ADDRESS: OH
AMOUNT: $20.08
I don’t want to wear anything that has beanniebobo’s name or face on it! Yuck!
#313 Fred,
My idea:
PUMAS
WE PAWS FOR NO ONE
Question: how to I respond directly to another’s comment? Thanks for time to let me know.
Thanks Andersen – can always count you – Gay Gal – jump in and help us get to the SD’s – Post 331/346 – just like in the old HRC days.
Drac Rodham Puma
Happy Independence Day! It’s been busy … I just gave $20 to the Denver travelers, $20.08 to HRC, and participated in a mock Colonial Town Meeting at the Old South Meeting House in Boston, MA this morning. The audience debated and voted about the 1773 tea tax, which led to the Boston Tea Party and, eventually, to the Revolutionary War. Hearing the famous words of the Loyalists and Patriots defending their positions on that fateful December day, it was inspiring to think that the Pumas truly are standing for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness! And unlike in 1773, this time, women actually have a say in how this land will be governed too!
Have a safe and happy holiday. Go Pumas!
#371 Trish,
You’re welcome!
#331 Goalucard4Hill
Lobby Superdelegates stopped updating on June 3, and since then many of the e-mails have changed. Hang tight the spreadsheet in the Action PAC section will be completed over the weekend and you will have updated e-mails for all SD’s that have their e-mail out there.
Happy 4th to all!
I made my donation of $20.08 to help retire Hillary’s debt today.
There is a beautiful photo of Hillary at Democrats Against Obama-NObama Ever! You have to wait until the end of scroll of names, then photos come up. Hillary is looking out between blue curtains with her lovely smile. (kinda’ “waiting in the wings” or “I’ve got a secret”.)
That’s how I am envisioning her today and it makes me happy.
#361 Antifish
“Dances, Was that someone you sent an email to?”
I use PUMApac.org / NOBama in the signature of my personal (real name) email account and people have picked up on it.
I use it in my signature line for non-PUMA related websites as well. Just another way to get the word out.
Fred,
Check your email.
MarylandPUMA
#369 goandersen,
That’s beautiful!
#346 Goalucard4Hill
Thanks, I’ll add any that are not in the spreadsheet, if you get more can you send them ot my e-mail please, then I can compare for the ones I am missing. I’d greatly appreciate it.
Trish738@yahoo.com
#312 Fred
Suggest adding a few letters, more definitive for those viewing signs to understand.
DNC Selected, not Elected
Ok PUMAs
Just got a prototype for the new logo to Murphy for approval.
Stay tuned.
#387 Dances,
That’s a great idea. I’ll try it.
389 Anti rodham fish
did you read the Diss me, Donna article?
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Happy 4th everyone. I’ll post this again cause it’s interesting to watch. It’s video back in time (July 3, 1972) when there’s a controversy over the DNC stealing delegates:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/obama-backlash-in-his-online-backyard/
#375 Taffy
Thanks, I’m going to compare them to what I have. I cannot find phone numbers or e-mails for the District of Columbia SD’s, if anyone has these kicking around I’d appreciate it if you could post them here
~~~~*******For PUMAs just joining us*****~~~~~~
PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS DETAILS OF THE DENVER TRIP ON THE BLOG.
Email, IM, Chat it up.
The blogs are public forums.
Sent Hillary $20.08 to pay down her debt!
Happy Independence Day PUMAS and Hillary Clinton!
Oops… sorry… wrong link — let me do that again. I meant to post this video link back in time (July 3, 1972) when there’s a controversy over the DNC stealing delegates:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8663355
#381 GAY GAL
Copy and paste, or type the post number as a reference, and the member’s name in CAPS on the first line, to get their attention, then skip a line and type your response.
#390 Trish Rodham from Canada
I know the ones that I posted above are good – they bounced back to me because there was a problem with AOL when I sent them out via LobbyDelegates – and they all went out without being rejected – I do have several that are no longer in existence – if you like I can send you an email by State and name of those that no longer exist via LobbyDelegates.
Drac Rodham Puma
Fred since it is small 12″ x 12″
PUMAS
UNITE 08
Did anyone see the video of Lybian President sharing his views on Obama and the election?
WoW! He knows Obama is a Muslim and he believes that Obama is telling Election Lies to become elected. The plan is pretty crazy scary if that is true.
I will grab and post in a few. Must see if you haven’t!
#147 Frightening. What has become of this party? Now what will we Pumas do? Trolls are reading our posts and reporting back to Obambi and he doesn’t want to have anything to do with Pumas being at the Convention. Does not want Hillary’s name called. I can’t stand this man and he hasn’t even been nominated yet. Remember he is the presumed nominee. This is his way of insuring he is the nominee.
Fred –
Second suggestion for colors – I was assuming ppl were going with white t shirts – they would reflect heat but if they go with a color I say medium shade of yellow with same red/blue/white swirl lettering. Represents the yellow for flowers sent and the patriotic colors – kinda two fold.
I do like the “WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER” but do not know if they will care about that…the Convention is where they will be at and it is about the voters/their votes, being counted, respected and heard. If not I think they all know what will happen in November.
Just a thought.
#381 gay gal
I just copy and paste what I am respondind too, its different from the hillaryclinton.com site. the posts line up as they are typed here and not by topic, also we don’t have the reply choice. THis way you can continue reading without going up and down looking for responses. some like it, some prefer another way.
RE: TX DEMOCRATIC PARTY HEARINGS ON CAUCUSES
My link to submit written testimony doesn’t work anymore, so I plan on calling the TDP in Austin on Monday. Please flood them with phone calls. Their number is (512) 478-9800. I want them to get rid of the so-called “Texas Two Step.” We don’t need a caucus system in Texas as we already vote individually. Why have both the popular vote and caucus system? Doesn’t make sense.
Also, don’t forget that LULAC’s National Convention will be in Washington, D.C. from July 8-11. BO, John Mccain and Hillary Clinton will all be speaking. Please send in your e-mail comments and protest letters to your local or national council at: http://www.lulac.org (or give them a call).
I made contributions today to HC and PUMA’s buses to Denver.
July 04, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
Amount:
$20.08
—————
Placed on Jul. 4, 2008
Purpose Donation
amount
BUSES TO DENVER $10.00 USD
Total Amount: $10.00 USD
Finally, thank you ElainePuma for your great letter to the superdelegates! Great work.
Best,
Lara08
#312 I like Remember in November, or November to Remember.
(((((#170 antifish on 07.04.08 at 12:39 pm)))))
Hi ANTIFISH!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the input !!
I hope to get more.. suggestions.
405 Fred
“Yes, We Will”
#380 antifish
Love that slogan – how about this one
PAWS FOR A CAUSE
#174 I’m worried that even sending questions to that e-mail address could be sent by a troll. I’m getting jumpy about everything now. What if someone joined up and is pretending to be for our cause and is a troll. How do we know that?
Here it is PUMAS.
This is what the Muslim world thinks about Obama and the American people.
I’ll tell you now PUMAS, we must get the word out to as many Hillary Supporters as possible/ A.S.A.P.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2737QUBxFY
#402 won’t work we get jumped on for not uniting for bb
#392 Maryland,
We’re getting a new logo? Will my smiling face be on it?
PAWS FOR A CAUSE is pretty cool!
By the way, I had a chance to watch the clip on Murphy an Fox News and I was PUMA PUMPED! Murphy was well spoken and confident.
Thumbs Up!
#412 1of18Mil,
Hey I like that even better! PAWS FOR A CAUSE!!!!!
#417 1voice,
Yes, Murphy is a wonderful spokesperson for our group. We were all very proud of her when she appeared on FOX.
Hey!
I typed into yahoo superdelegate contact list and the first link it gave was it took me to a JustSayNoDeal Video at http://giveemhell.org/index.htm
Now this is good marketing
Trishfrom Canada – I think that I have asked this before and forgive me if you responded but are you Northern Girl from Canada that was at the HRC site?? If So I have been looking 4 U for weeks now – and you have been here all along.
#418 antifish
Yeah maybe we can put a paw print on each side of it or all over it?
BTW I said hi to back about a million (I like that word for some reason
) post you must have missed it….so glad to see you on here.
Let us all hope that the Idependence Day donations that we make to Hillary will result in her independence of debt from this fight she put on for us.
Happy July Fourth to us all!
Heneri
#409 HI, DEADGIRLSRISE!
#413 ladyhawkke
I use my spider sense when it comes to feeling a troll is about and then I tend to ignore them. works for me.
#394 go Rodham andersen,
I loved the letter to Donna! Wish I’d written it.
#421 Goalucard4Hill
I’m not northern girl but she does come here, she was here a few days ago in the late night EST time. I can let her know you were asking about her.
How about
“Taking the Vote Back – PUMA Smack!”
#423 Henerietta
Me too! I know this has been said many times but I hope the ppl that are donating use the link on the daily growl or make sure if you go any other hillary site that you read the small print in the disclosure that it “IS” going to pay off her debt. There was a post over on another site that the lady said she ended using the one that goes to her senate campaign funds.
SO just a reminder check where it is going before you confirm your donations.
I like Paws for a Cause too.
I happen to be watching FOX and the Nameless One says that he is not ‘flip-flopping’ he’s only ‘changing positions’.
I would call that ‘peeing in my face, and telling me it’s raining’!!!!
GROWL POWER!
greta
#230 I already gave my $5.44 but I think you may be right. I still have hope.
#413 ladyhawkke,
We have no way of knowing if someone infiltrates us. We must assume that it has probably already happened.
jane-pa on 07.04.08 at 2:47 pm
Can we find out Hillarys debt amount? I dont want the golden boy comeing in at last min. acting like the knight by paying last little bit.DNC is raising nothing almost May was great. McCain did double Obama DNC AND RNC counted in too.
——————–
Jane, for frequently updated info on the debt check http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
As for McCain’s money, I think it was David Brooks that did a good column, saying that McCain personally has little but the RNC has a lot, and the total adds up to more than the total of Obama’s (a lot) plus the DNC (very little).
I think he also explained that Obama’s is really not from small donors but comes from big telecom and coastal elites.
LOL
LOL at gordanas post.
#422 1of18Mil,
I’m sorry I missed your previous post. Thank you, I’m glad to be back among family.
I love the idea of paws on it! It’s so pumalicious!
#431 gordana.hill08
Okaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy … will be praying for sunny skies for you from now on
#268 Cosmeta I tried again and it went thru.
Can we have both:
PAWS FOR A CAUSE (perhaps at the top of the logo) and then THE VOICE OF THE VOTERS (underneath the logo)? I am just concerned that we say what we stand for. Great ideas everyone.
Antifish, welcome back!
Happy 4th, Puma Pals,
Growl Report: 20.08 donated to HRC to retire the debt.
If I could draw I’d create a cartoon with Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, Reid et al saying “There, there, nice kitty.” as they are stepping back from a large Puma who is guarding her puma cubs
T-shirt:
Remember BO’s saying “the claws come out”? Howsabout something like “You want to see claws? with a nonchalant Puma licking its paws.
ont the prowl
madazhel
a California Puma
LOL @ Pumalicious!
#423 Henerietta,
Yes, nothing would make me happier than to hear on the news tomorrow that Hillary had a record fund-raising day today!
#298 I like Ralph Nader a lot better than McCain. I don’t know if voting for him would help Obama. My goal is, if Hillary is not the nominee, to defeat Obama.
I am going to put power into the positive thought that Hillary Clinton will be the next President!
If anyone has read or watched the “Secret” then they know what I am talking about.
Thoughts become reality! I will visualize her as President.
The DNC was able to control the primary but they can’t control what I think!
428 TrishfromCanada
“The Votes are going to cost more than just some Change”
#446 goandersen
oh yeah!
or how about scattered coins and then “Change you cannot bank on”
It wasn’t until I really thought about it, that I realized donating to McCain might be a good idea.
Sending a donation to McCain is a STRONG message, it proves you will take action, I think it builds a stronger case for Hillary. We mean what we say! It is called leverage. It’s not about the amount we donate, its about the number of us that donate. It will turn heads back in our direction if McCain can say that thousands of donations came in on the 4th of July weekend all ending in 44. It could help thrust PUMA and Murphy back into the spotlight. And theres always the added bonus that it could make Dean and Pelosi squirm….ah…how sweet…and if McCain uses it to make one attack Ad against Obama, that helps too.
I was scanning the blogs today and noticed the Obamabots seem to be in a serious retreat from their nasty comments and Rah Rah Obama mode. Maybe they are having a hard time digesting his latest flip-flops? Anyone else notice that they are pretty quiet?
#394 goandersen
Loved the Diss Me, Donna article on Confluence. Very snarky.
SO THAT’S WHAT IT MEANS!
Click on an underlined puma name to a post and it becomes a link.
So far I’ve been sent to an artist, a poet, a blogger, an error: can’t find web page, and back here to PUMA PAC.
We have a creative bunch of pumas here, I see. A solid sign of intelligence.
I play guitar, myself. But not well enough yet to put a line under maxgrader.
Like that too! Cool idea with coins and phrase. Very creative.
#431 gordana,
LOL. He’s finally defining the elusive “change” he’s been spouting off about. It means repeatedly “change” positions on all policies until you have everyone so confused that they stop asking questions.
#445 1voice2stopcorruption
I’ve read the secret and no offense to anyone who believes what it preaches but it places its basis on the belief that evil does not exist in the world. Positive thinking is good as long as there is recognition that bad people do bad things as we see in this election
#290 john on 07.04.08 at 2:09 pm
Great idea, John. I’m in.
MAX cool. Guitar player? Nice. I play too.
THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF – Thanks for sharing the video. we need email the media – and talking heads about this video. Obviously the Muslim world is already trying to take Obama under their wings and curry solidarity because of his Kenyan roots.
I will so my stealth bulk email again tonight. People need to see this… Can someone who is really eloquent write a short blurb to accompany this video ? I would like to use it in conjunction with the U tube link.
OH PLEASE,,, someone who knows how to save this link to their own server before it is taken down and disappears from cyberspace..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2737QUBxFY
443 Henrietta
here is the break down on voting from Cynthia Ruccia:
McCain = 3 votes
3rd Party = 2 votes
No vote = 1 vote
If you want an explanation on that you can contact her.
She is spearheading the Swing State coalition.
#324 Annabelle Thanx for making it easy. You’re the greatest!
#440 hillgirl,
Thank you!
#312 Fred I like Selected Not Elected also.
#447 Trish,
Drop the Change
#331 Goalucard4Hill Thanks for that info. Will have to do tomorrow, don’t have any more time today.
#415 Taffy…I forgot *61 followers on that Kool-Aid would think we are uniting with them…NOT!
HILLARY
I saw a comment above about the “claws coming out” it inspired me to post this again.
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY
Roar! The mighty PUMA listened and swooned. She almost fainted from the inspirational words echoing from the EMPTY SUIT, “STOP PUMA!” Dressed in BLACK, the PUMA hesitated and froze in her tracks. She casually sat for a moment, one paw holding a MARGARITA, and sipped from her straw. The winds carried high pitched sounds to her ears. It sounded like a pack of wounded animals were approaching her. The mighty PUMA turned to see Nancy Pelosi running towards her. Her single FLIP FLOP dangling from her feet, HALF the democrat she used to be, shouting “PLEASE COME BACK”! Close behind her was Howling Howard Dean with his Hound Dog “Rendell” on a leash, tracking the mighty PUMA. Donna Brazille trailed behind them sporting a Tee-shirt that read, I’M NEUTRAL, I REALLY AM!” In the rear, Kennedy, Richardson, and Edwards were holding out their hands SEEKING DONATIONS, while John Kerry rode along in his SWIFTBOAT named “DESPERATELY SEEKING VOTES”. The mighty PUMA proudly rose to join her PUMAPAC. She stepped forward towards the CONVENTION and flicked her tail on her shoulder in DISMISSIVE DISSENT. Then she tossed some PUMA DOLLARS over her shoulder and roared “NO DEAL”. Stunned, they watched the Mighty PUMA strut off with her integrity intact and tail raised high. They looked on in utter disbelief and denial, to see a sign swinging from the mighty PUMAs tail with the message “ SEE YOU IN DENVER!”
#462 antifish
LOL ok I could come back with a really funny comment there but i’m being good! Stop Tempting me!
I def. believe that there is evil in the world but I like the message of our ability to create what we think.
It’s too long to get into here but it really works.
No offense taken Trish. I understand where you are coming from. I think we all apply that law of attraction in our lives without even realizing it. And I also do not think that we create all the evil that affects our lives.
I certainly didn’t ask for the great Deceiver Obama.
465 nhforhillary
I love those. Saving them for Trish’s book.
Fred:
I like the idea for paws on the sign, so how about
PAWS WITH CLAWS
Then something anti BO.
#466 Trish,
Save it for late-night!
#362 SUZY T I’m not from Jax but am 85 miles away in Palm Coast. I’m 1/2 of a person!
Selected Not Elected was best for the anti BO part of the shirt.
Keep the PAWS part.
I usually don’t post, I have a hard enough time trying to keep up with all of you!
I just donated 20.08 for Hillary.
Please reconsider donating to McCain until AFTER the convention. (Don’t want to give him money until we know who he is running against!)
We may even want to designate a day so that we all contribute at one time like we are doing today for Hill.
Hope to see you in Denver.
Whoa. My screen changed. Anyone else?
I donated
I didn’t have $20.00 but I donated $7.08 and I did just recently order some stuff so hopefully that will help her also…
Now it went back to normal. Might be my Computer
#472 and keep the CLAWS part as BIG CAT LOVER says.
any reaction to a paw that says PAWS WITH CLAWS?
1voice,
Put the Margarita down now!
#468 goandersen
you know you make me laugh right?
When I turned on FOX this morning — the newscasters were having a debate about how much Obama appears to have aged on the campaign trail (the gray hair) compared to how he looked a year ago. I found this discussion interesting from the perspective of a sign that the newscasters are setting the stage to diminish his appeal and his image. Kind of like the subtle and not so subtle attacks on Hillary’s appearance.
BTW.. has anyone watched this? I posted a couple of times previously today and was curious to any opinions of the comparison to the DNC this year and what went on back in 1972 with McGovern:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8663355
#470 antifish
Prime Time PUMA
Former Republican N.C. Sen. Jesse Helms dies at 86 (AP)
479 TrishfromCanada
tsk tsk
#477 BigCat,
My reaction is that paws without claws could be painful. Just kidding. LOL!
I’d better go to the store and get my paper. I’m getting silly too early in the day today and don’t want to get into trouble here.
#473 LALady
Welcome and I agree with you on holding out on donating to McCain til after Denvor.
ok going home be back in a few hours
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_re_us/obit_helms
#484 antifish
OWW!
484, 486 Anti and Trish
Oh, just leave me holding my you know what!! lol!
It sure doesn’t pay to sleep in and start the blog at comment 400+
A few comments without remembering all the links- Nader as a choice over McCain I could do, he at least is for many environmental, less political bs, type of person. He won’t win anyway, so it isn’t as if I have to worry about the details. I will never vote for a Republican on principle since their basic beliefs are more centered on the individual than for the good of all.
Someone mentioned the bus ride only cost $35. Where is that from?
Altitude sickness, ick. I got sick just going up to the volcano in Hawaii…wonder if Denver would not be a good idea for me as much as I really want to go. Any info on this to help me make a decision would be appreciated.
Happy 4th of July PUMAs!
#488 BigCat,
I was just kidding!
Taffy #88 follwing is the place to send info on Texas Caucus issues.
Dear fellow Democrats,
I am pleased to inform you the first meeting of the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System has been scheduled. Headed by Senator Royce West, this first of several meetings will convene at the Austin Community College Health Science Building, Building 9000 in the Multi Purpose Hall room 8500 in Austin, Texas on July 7, 2008 at 10:00am. The campus is located at 3401 Webberville Rd, Austin, Texas 78702.
This Committee which Senator West and I have appointed has been charged with studying the current convention/caucus system. Furthermore, based on the testimony taken at these meetings, the committee will then consider this feedback and possibly make recommendations for changes.
While all meetings will be open to the public, the first committee meeting will be limited to invited testimony only. Senator West and the Committee members wish to use this initial meeting as an informational session. They will discuss with current and former Party leaders the history and development of the current convention/caucus system.
Those wishing to participate at this meeting are encouraged to submit written testimony to the Committee, or complete an online survey, available on the Texas Democratic Party website. Additionally, there will be other hearings held in Austin and throughout the state where public testimony will be taken in order to learn about your personal experience with the convention/caucus system. Those hearings will be scheduled at a later date.
So whether it is by completing the online survey or by attending the upcoming Committee meetings, I hope you will take a moment to share your thoughts. Your feedback will play an important role as we continue to explore our current Democratic Primary process. Only by working together will we be able to grow and strengthen as a Party.
Thank you again for helping us make your Party stronger and more unified than ever before.
Your friend and fellow Democrat,
Boyd L. Richie
Chairman
Hope this helps. Happy 4th!
Witchy 1
#489 goandersen,
Holding your what? Claws?
This is a new link on how the choosen one might be forming yet another flip-flop on the abortion issue. Too bad we don’t have a running list of true flip-flops on the site.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-sounding.html
OK, I’m out for a while. Later pumas.
I’m going home now to file my nails
Repost from PUMA overnight, below.
WHAT’S NEXT? 3rd Party Spokespeople!
I think our next steps need to include making contact with some strong 3rd party spokespeople. Recall how effective James Carville was in this role? Powerful.
Guests at Hillary’s last birthday party included Elvis Costello and the Wallflowers , Jakob Dylan, Elvis Costello, Billy Crystal and The WHO.
“A roar of applause greeted the Clintons as they entered the venerable theater to the strains of The Who’s “I’m Free.” (thanks to whoever posted those lyrics)
Be good if we could compile a list of all of her supporters in different categories like entertainers, media, etc. and post the contact info for everyone.
That way we can be ready to invite some of these great people to whatever events take place down the road.
If you have any ideas for 3rd party spokespeople, please post!!
P.S.
Puma ally: I am reposting your outstanding NY Times link just to make sure everyone sees it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/opinion/04fri1.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
#480 mzebest
Took me awhile to watch the video before I commented. First, the report shows that taking the nomination to the convention was the norm in the past, not some aborration. Second, I noticed Mayor Daley, Sr. of Chicago was involved again in delegate tampering. Do you know why 150+ delegates for Mcgovern were in question? Lastly, the ruling that the concredentials committee had the final say is not good for our cause.
ladyhhawke are you still out there…I’m the other half of your vote! I remember you being from Palm Coast. I did some consulting work there a few years back and there is a vet there who makes house calls and she took care of my cat for years, has an office in St. A.
Are you going to Denver? I am hoping to find more PUMAs in our area!
Pause for paws. It’s got claws for a cause
#500 macgrader
Tongue twister.
FOR USERS WITH GMAIL
Please go into main email page and in the upper right there is a link called Settings. Change your identity to something other than your real name, preferably your PUMA name.
This will prevent others from knowing your name and using it to find out personal info about you. They did it to murphy, they’ll do it to us.
Make sure you SAVE your changes.
Just how much puma punch have you guys had today? You’re all hysterical with these puns.
Thanks Trish – please tell Northern Girl I said hey – maybe we could convince her to stay here with us – those Canadians are always hard workers.
#463 – LadyHawkke Rodham Puma – thanks for your help.
Drac
502 Maryland.
They did it to me and scrubed all my videos, when only one dealt with politics. Filed a complaint yesterday.
Take the precautions PUMA’s.
Darn. In my rush to get out my idea before anyone else could think of it I neglected my grammar and was incongruent. That should be “They’ve” not “It’s”. Plural on plural.
I’m off to be a Mom for a while.
BBL.
Enjoy your holiday everyone.
#502 Maryland PUMA
Thanks.
The u-tube video of lunatic Kadafi touting Obama has been on the clintons4mccain web site for a while now.
#498 BigCatLover
Thanks for commenting. I wasn’t voting age back in 1972 and have to admit that I was still in High School and not very politically aware… so I don’t remember any of this. I agree with you that there is a similarity of the DNC getting the last word which isn’t good for our current situation — but I found it fascinating that they did attempt to steal delegates before. And also interesting in the similarities is that McGovern didn’t win that election. So there’s hope we can at least succeed in thwarting Obama’s success for participating in this kind of corrupt behavior. That’s my 4th of July goal.
Good Day and Happy 4th of July!!
#8 I love it “B.O. sent me to you along with…”
#32 I agree…cell #’s and email addresses
#295 Don’t give up..send it to Gov. Rendell and the SD’s
#312 Fred..love the idea but not sure how it works..do we pin it to our shirts? I think we have to have a unified look, like a baseball cap (red) with the logo “Voice of the Voters..and I’m not sure about that),need more info.
#354 gay gal…welcome I remember you ,I was Mary Beth on her sight I think.
OK, now that I got thatall out, I’ve been a very BUSY camper this AM .
1. Went to annual parade here and passed out PUMA flyers.
2. Came home and sent letters and emails to all of the Media outlets, regardng PUMA and going to Denver.
3. Also sent same info to all Democrats politicans.
4. Sent a letter to Gov. Rendell telling him how much I admire him and all he’s done to support Hillary, then I sent the article that, I think Annabelle wrote ,(I’ve read so much today, I’m sorry,.. if I go out of here to find it ,I’m afraid I’ll lose everything I just wrote ) anyway it was perfect and I think everyone should get a copy .
# Sent $20.08 to Hillary, $10.00 to PUMA, and $10.00 to the bus drive.
All done, and now I’m off to a pool party and babacue.
Happy 4th to all!!
312 Fred – I feel whatever you put on the banners, it should either include the name and/or initials/and or pic of either BO or Hillary – depending on the sign. I feel we should identify to those who do not know us who/what specifically we are for/against.
#509 mzebest
I have to admit that I was old enough to vote in 1972 and I remember that I did not want to vote for McGovern, but I didn’t want to vote for Humphrey either. don’t remember why his CA delegate were in question.
PUMA Talent Growl as of July 4,2008
3:31 pm
If you wish to be added:
1. Jeremy on the first line of post
2. A brief description of your skills that you want to share
with the rest of our group.
3. Email is faster and easier in keeping this current. The mail address has been previously posted for those wishing to go that route. Thanks and Happy 4th!
thatswhattimeitis: CPA (Certified Public Accountant),financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa: fluent in Spanish, photoshop CS3, PC video editing
(see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Misogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas: graphics,website design, photoshop, flash
Webfoot: Legal Research
Ginanswo: calls, faxing, copying, mailing
Michelle 47: has meeting space available(OH area) for organizational purposes
ABinNY: photographer, skills in photoshop CS2
bythelake: regular mail, email, faxes, donations
ontherocks: calls, emails, mailing SD and media
sycoram_in_MO: mails. emails, sending out flyers, calls
1of18MilforHILL08: keep addresses, emails, fax # current if changed (those of individuals or groups that others would like to contact)
MJE4HRC: writer(composing/editing letters)
Sheila7: emails(taking ideas, making a plan, and do the job)
#480 MZEBEST
deja vu – all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember it well. The DNC and the Chicago (Daly) Party Machine up to the same old (dirty) tricks!
It was good, however, to see that there were still four contenders, with their delegate countsposted. Unlike supposedly only ONE now – prior to the Convention.
I think that it would be OK to give to McC now – to let the DNC know that there won’t be any UNITY, if we can help it. We could always vote for Nader – after all, wasn’t he partly responsible for Gore losing in 2000?
GROWL POWER!
greta
There once was a man named Obama
Who said he didn’t want any drama.
So sent his surrogates ahead,
To create it instead
And soon he’ll be just crying mama!
Witchy1
There is a group from DFW going down to Austin for this meeting with the DNC. Royce West was one of the biggest offenders at the Texas Convention…kind of like putting the fox in charge of the hen house. Richie was for HRC until he flipped the end of May. Obviously he is trying to save his fanny by sucking up.
BTW we are not “invited”
Three cheers to the DNC
For never counting on PUMA’s like me.
We’re many in number
We’ll roar like the thunder
And we’ll pick our own nominee!!!
#515 Middle age Female
Make that last line read
‘And soon he’ll be just crying Donna’ (for Brazile)
‘Selected Not Elected’ refers to Obama.
‘Voice of the Voters’ IS Hillary.
#3 PumaAllie on 07.04.08 at 10:35 am
from Annabellep
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/#comment-240
====
Puma Allie, thanks for this posting~!
This document is for mailing to delegates, nailing to the door of state Dem headquarters, passing out as fliers!
Witchy1 email me laladypuma@gmail.com
There once was a man named Obama
Who said he didn’t want any drama.
So sent his surrogates ahead,
To create it instead
And soon he’ll be just crying to Donna!
RBC, I thought I was the one
You told me this was already done
Now some voters aren’t fine
They won’t fall in line
You promised that I ‘d already won.
After reading the New York Times Opinion page today enumerating all of BO’s radical flip flops between the primary and now, and witrh lots of time for more until the November election, I’d like to propose a new slogan for all the die-hard Obama supporters:
Obama: Changeling You Can Believe In…
Fred – All of the ideas are great but I like “Paws for a cause” the best with paw prints. Something to think about is if BO is no longer the nominee after Denver then anything with his name on it would be worthless at that point. If his name isn’t on it then we could continue to use it all the way to November and beyond to fight the DNC, support Hillary, etc.
By the way thank you for all your hard work.
#514 gordana.hill08 and #512 BigCatLover
I have no idea what the motivations were for the delegate problem back then… but it’s been wonderful seeing the dialog on the topic from both of you. Thanks for responding. And I definitely agree on the Growl Power thought.
I listened to the PUMA talk radio last night and heard Will Bower say that in Wash. DC — he constantly sees Obamabots on every corner trying to recruit people to jump into the Obama camp. Will said that he only has to say one word to put fear in their eyes and make them physically back away from him. That word is PUMA. I saw someone else post a similar story in these blogs. I only hope I get the opportunity to see that fear in their eyes myself.
Happy 4th PUMAs-I have been catching up on posts and saw some questions for me. Before I get to them I am going to do a blanket congratulations to all the PUMAs for the posts I read. I started making a list of specific ones I wanted to comment on and my list is now so long it’s insane. pumaAllie, trish,DawnE, nhhillary, the list goes on and on. What a wonderful 4th of July!
I will do the answers the questions in separate posts so that this one doesn’t get too long.
Good Day and Happy 4th of July everyone!!
I will sent check $109.99 Hillary, tomorrow.
Also, I will send some donation to my PUMA .
I wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish to go to Denver but I know I cannot. So I will sent donation for the buses drive to denver- all tomorrow.
Murphy, I have to sent you 2 emails because I need your advice, Subject: Bosnians4Hillary!,please check in junk emal. Also, I have signed for PUMA email list -today.
Thanks
#67 MAXGRADER Don’t know if you saw my post a few days ago but if not…
Hi, just wanted you to know I donated $25 to Pumas a few days ago — $20 from me and I matched your $5 if you chose to donate.
Thank you everyone for all the links and good info. today. The Independence Day and constitution blogs give me goosebumps — just like the National Anthem always does.
To be independent and free — how lucky are we!!!
diva2
I donated 25.08 to help pay off Senator Clinton’s debt today!! That feels so good.
Does anyone know if they are still doing the match for donating to the Denver Group?
502 maryland puma
That is, go to the Main Gmail page.
Goalucard4Hill say, the old HC.com people are at a website called hillaryvillagers. Anybody from the old blog, come on over. Here’s the link: http://www.freewebs.com/hillaryvillagers/index.htm
PUMA Talent Growl as of July 4,2008
4:05 pm
If you wish to be added:
1. Jeremy on the first line of post
2. A brief description of your skills that you want to share
with the rest of our group.
3. Email is faster and easier in keeping this current. The mail address has been previously posted for those wishing to go that route. Thanks and Happy 4th!
thatswhattimeitis: CPA (Certified Public Accountant),financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa: fluent in Spanish, photoshop CS3, PC video editing
(see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Misogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas: graphics,website design, photoshop, flash
Webfoot: Legal Research
Ginanswo: calls, faxing, copying, mailing
Michelle 47: has meeting space available(OH area) for organizational purposes
ABinNY: photographer, skills in photoshop CS2
bythelake: regular mail, email, faxes, donations
ontherocks: calls, emails, mailing SD and media
sycoram_in_MO: mails. emails, sending out flyers, calls
1of18MilforHILL08: keep addresses, emails, fax # current if changed (those of individuals or groups that others would like to contact)
MJE4HRC: writer(composing/editing letters)
Sheila7: emails(taking ideas, making a plan, and do the job)
Hill2TheHill: actress, singer, dancer (not famous) http://218467.spreadshirt.com/us/US/SHOP/
custom T-Shirts(all proceeds pledged go to Murphy@pumapac)
Getting ‘auto-replies’ back from the news stations
here is a link to an article talking about the welcoming of 600 delegates on Aug 24 at the convention
http://www.politicswest.com/democratic_national_convention
Thank you Jeremy for the growing list
I am working on new t-shirt designs right now
Check them out later……
Happy 4th of july to everyone !!!!!!!!!
i just donated my 20.08 to help retire our debt !!!!
Lets all do this to be debt free for the convention !!!!!
Then if we can donate alittle bit to help here at Puma so we will have the funds to go to Denver!!!!!!!!!!
Fight on PUMAS !!!!!!!
Have a great day all !!!!!!!!!!
Be back to read all posts later tonight !!!!!!
Thanks Hill2TheHill. Will be looking out for them.
Good lord I leave you all alone for just under a day and 5 days worth of stuff has gone on and everyone is almost packed and on their way out the door to Denver. Oh happy days are here again -I see our double duo furry fiendish feline friends goanderson and antifish have returned yaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! Don’t get to get many words in edge wide but I’m glad your back.
A question was posed to me by Zee about if I visit the website noquarter since they are pursuing the shady land dealings done by *61. No, I don’t go there because I have a number of medical issues and the amount of time I can spend at a computer is spent at this website and doing research for PUMA PAC. I did some research on the land deal and decided instead to first focus my time and energy on getting Hillary on the roll call in Denver. What I found, in the limited amount of research I did on the land deal, is: Rita Rezko (Antonio “Tony” Rezko’s wife) purchased the property adjacent to *61′s home. She subsequently sold a portion of the vacant land to *61 (giving him a bigger yard). She then sold the rest of the land to another couple. I no longer have the piece of paper with those purchasers’ names since I decided not to pursue that particular violation at this time. This rapid turn over in real estate raises so many red flags that if a bull were around it would take a whole truck load of rodeo clowns to distract him. Sorry, I digress. I also decided not to pursue it since a federal investigation was already in progress on Tony Rezko and I figure it is multi-layered. The feds cannot divulge who or what they are investigating. The PUMA, Taffy, had commented that she had called the DOJ and FBI and got no where. The privacy laws are why they could not talk to her. She stated that she was hung up on which was wrong. They should have explained to her that they cannot discuss if they are investigating anyone, taken the information she wanted to share, and thanked her for the call. I hope this information answers Zee’s question. My next post will be on a question antifish had.
I’m sure everyone knows by now that the birth certificate on the Daily Kos is in fact a fake (though we all knew that beforehand.)
Why do you think he won’t show the real one? I think we deserve to see it, and if there’s nothing to hide, he shouldn’t have a problem showing it.
I just donated $20.08 to Hillary, and my mother did the same. I also doanted $10 to McCain for whom I will vote If I cannot vote for Hillary in the GE. I also donated $10 to PUMA for buses and to Nader for having the courage to tell the truth.
Happy Independence Day to all Hillary Supporters!
A very happy 4th of July to you’ll very busy PUMAs.
I see alot of new names, means new PUMAs
#106 1voice2stopcorruption, long name but soo apropo. I’ve enjoyed your comments.
I’m kind of sad because I will not be able to go to Denver physically. However, my energy and my heart will go along and will be with you…
Have a wonderful growl!
#100 MCR *61 solicitating You can call a number to get solicitors to stop calling and if they don’t within 30 days. I believe you can file complaints against them. As a matter-of-fact if you are already on the “do not call list” and told the DNC to take you off their list, then maybe you should file a complaint. I probably have a number if you need it.
diva2
Independence Day contribution for HRC. Done.
The letter that I sent to my senators and that I posted yesterday had cites from the Senate Ethics Manual. Antifish had asked if anyone could protest the violations commited by *61. Yes, anyone can do so. In fact, I think it is a an excellent idea. If any federal employee abuses his or her power, misuses his or her position, or violates the Code of Code then that violation can and should be reported. In *61′s case, his violations of the code of conduct for the U.S. Senate can be reported to the Senate Ethics Committee with a recommendation that they conduct an investigation of him. My letter to my two senators was my starting point for this action. They are on the inside of the Senate so I knew they would recognize the problem they now face with *61. I only sent it to them because I am their constiuent and so many of the super delegates are, I fear, beginning to notice volume but not content. Antifish brought up the idea of my letter being a daily growl. I am fine with that if Murphy wants to use it. Obviously it would have to be changed since it is personalized from my viewpoint but Murphy would know how to generalize it and PUMAs who wanted to use it could personalize it for their own viewpoints. And, there’s that answer. Long again, I know. Sorry about that; I try to be clear and it takes me a quite a few words to do that. And now I will be off the computer for awhile (and possibily the rest of the day) to give my eyes a much needed break. Enjoy your 4th of July PUMAs.
cconnell ty I will do–Right now I’m just in the thinking stages…
Last time I was at a convention was in 56(?) LOL—My mom got us into the Rep in San Francisco. (No she wasnt rep–She was always a die-Heart Dem). I have a feeling she is one the many many Dems rolling in over in their graves at this mess the DNC is pulling.
Let’s see Bar-b-que Ribs
Bar-b-que Chicken
Grilled Steaks
Potatoe Salad
Baked Beans
Fire works
…and Puma family – Happy 4th of July
ooooo: Mikes Hard Lemonade sounds really good right now. I think I will have one in HRC’s honor!
Cheers! Madame President!
{PumaResponders} Response item: NYT – Obama responds to Protest on his Website
Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:19 PM
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-responds-to-fisa-protest-on-his-web-site/
119 comments, mixed opinions.
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Hey Murphu, side note…I recently heard that in elections, newspaper advertising the day before the election gets alot of independent or unsure people to vote your way. Maybe this is already in the works or too expensive –radio and or newspaper ads in Denver to vote for HRC. It would be one more way to remind the delegates to vote for Senator Clinton. Most middle to high end hotels leave the morning newspaper at their guests door. Just a thought and don’t know if it will be cost-prohibitive.
diva2
#448 NHforhillary….EXACTLY
That was the initial intent. Bravo for understanding that.
It will send a HUGE message.
Please donate to “Green Rain for McCain” on his official site $5.44
Was suppose to Murphy, not Murphu!
546 webfoot
Where was that post? I wanted to read that.
I am here in Europe
I just spoke 2 members of my family in USA
and by no means they are “the boy”´s supporters
they are MCAAIN´s
but more or less
they say the way they see it
the probabilities that the boy wins in Nov. are high
one is middle age woman
and the other is a young man involve in politics
& now I really feel bad
what is going to happen to our beloved country¡¡¡¡¡
#471 LADYHAWKE Just curious, where does the other 1/2 of you live??? tee hee
545
never mind. I found it.
Great read. Definitely a to do!
I hope someone is counting the donations posted here. I’d like to have an idea.
diva2,
I think that the delegates in Denver would not pay much attention to a paid ad in a Denver paper, if they even picked up the paper at all. We’d be paying for a lot of local Denver readership who aren’t delegates.
You might check if there is some flyer service that might put out some at the last minute. But even then the delegates would probably ignore them. They wll be considering what their party bosses or their constitutents think.
Note worthy please read:
Just came back from a friends house, her daughter now works for Nancy Pelosi. Here is the lastest buzz she was able to pass on. It seems as Hillary supporters are moving toward ‘not voting this election’, Nancy and friends are not so worried about losing us or losing the election. Apparently there was some worry until just recently. It seems unless we put our support behind McCain, they are not so concerned. To me, this makes sense which is why I am voting McCain IF Hillary is not on the ticket. I am just sharing, I dont want to tell people how to vote. But again this does make sense to me. Voting is power we have and diluting the votes dilutes our power. Just passing this on.
Happy 4th eveyone…………gotta run
I just put this entry on the Caucus article that shows reaction to Obama flip on FISA or was it hmm anyway… I saw a bunch of former Obamatrons saying they have changed their support or were going to not vote so I wrote their numbers down and sent them this message:
Do not dispair or stay away from the polls… join PUMA’s, or donedems.com, or JustSayNoDeal.com… you have choices and people who will support you … let’s change the system as to how the DNC nominates their candidates!!! On this Independence day remember the words of Patrick Henry (These are the last two paragraphs of his famous speech):
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ”
SAY: WE will not shut up and sit down!!! We will not “JUST GET OVER IT”. WE WILL OVERCOME!!!!
I prefaced it with this note:
To the following commenters:
#332 Barbara Batchelor, @326 Eleanor Weston, #320 Tim-Going to Nader, #318 Blake, #317 Sunshine, #316 Steve Hunter, #314 Sally Baldwin, #306 Dr. Jim Jordan, #282 Joe, #272 Joe H Williams, #373 Marty Chilcutt, #291 Tom Greenfield, #287 Steve A., #305 bob, #310 Lee, #295 ccb, #293 Joanna Gangemi, & #273 The Last Straw…
Hope we see them in the group at Denver!!!
Contribution to Hillary completed
Date: July 04, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
$20.08
I was just thinking – can you imagine the poor accountant doing the donations – here comes another one for $20.08, here comes another one for $5.44. LOL
Here’s an article listing BO’s flip flops:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/a_man_of_seasonal_principles.html
Off to the beach in San Clemente, CA for bbq and fireworks.
Happy 4th PUMA’s.
diva2:
Yes I saw your post then as I see it now… strictly by chance this time too. That is so weird it must mean something of a compelling nature. Yes I’ll “see” your $5 and raise you another $20.
So that means for now I will give our beloved leader to the PUMA cause $25. $5 more from you and we’ve just done something extraordinarily fine.
But wait first for confirmation from Murphy (I’d hate for you to give more money before I do). Send her an email asking “Has maxgrader (or Kent…that’s my real me) contributed $25″ yet? She has my okay to confirm. I’ll whip out the plastic tonight and just do it before any nervousness has a chance to settle in about me being a jinx (When I contributed to Hillary things didn’t work out so well). Once confirmed then it’s up to you to give $5 more. I’ll trust you so I won’t ask for confirmation.
There we go. Thanks to you diva2 PUMA will be $50 dollars closer to making a difference in either a bus ride to the convention in Denver ( I can’t go, unfortunately) or for promoting our cause.
That was a fun way to get money out of miserly maxgrader.
Hello my Puma family and Happy 4th of July!!!
One question, if we camp how would we get back and forth to the convention site?
I am scared to death, but excited at the same time!!!
One Love
#568 DaddysDarlin
Denver has excellent mass transit. (Used to live there). Their buses go from Denver to Bolder.
I just wanted to comment on a trend I’ve noticed today on FOX (which I hope continues). Whenever they have a discussion on Obama — they of course have a Republican spokesperson along with a Democratic spokesperson in an attempt to give that “Fair and Balanced” reporting. But what I’ve been noticing is that after the Democratic makes the usual lame spin explanations to promote the idea that Obama is the “ONE” — the FOX person gives the Republican the last word — which is usually a great punch knockout to debunk the false statements of the former. The announcer always says, “We’re gonna have to leave it there,” and prevents the Democratic person from getting an opportunity to counter with more bizarre logic. I love when that happens.
#559 turndownobama
Very good point on the ads.
Here’s something we can consider. When I attend conferences, each morning the staff in the hotels slip flyers, notices, etc pertaining to that days events, under each hotel room door. Perhaps we can arrange with hotels , who allow this, to do the same for us. We can make an attractive eye-catching flyer for it. Like the pic on todays growl. We wouldn’t need many words, many won’t read it, but they will see Hillary’s face and that thought will be with them, even when they don’t realize it.
#233 sychoram_in_MO on 07.04.08 at 1:30 pm,
[[ Hey I tried donating to the busses from the link on the action page, but I’m getting a page not found error…. eeesh help I can’t give much, but if I can’t get in I can’t give at all…… ]]
Go directly to PayPal.com
Create an account
Email murphy and get her Paypal email address
From Paypal,
Click on the SEND TO button on main menu
piece of cake
Hi-Paw, low paw, middle paw for mamapumamass!! Thanks for all you are doing.
Fred– Thanks for the banners and your willingness to help out so much
Antifish, witchy1, go anderson, webfoot, middle age female )me too, texassherry, sandipuma and so many more
—- thank you for your great ideas and the research and information you bring all of us. Your contributions are noted all the time even if I don’t say it.
Good afternoon Pumas!
I hope you are all enjoying this wonderful 4th of July. I wanted to update you on the developments here in Butte Montana with the Barrack Obama parade and picnic.
Let me start by saying that BO did not walk or ride in the parade. He was located in a small area around our civic center with a 2 mile closed perimeter. He watched the parade. Our Governor and a Senator were walking the parade though. They told us this this AM and cited that the security would have been a nightmare for BO to be able to participate. We have no high rises and there is little to obstruct the view of the SS if something bad were to happen. We are also only a town of some 25000 people.
Our parade also was late by 50 minutes in starting. We are still waiting to here if this was a result of BO. We are also trying to figure out if the fireworks delay last night (also 45 minutes) was a result of BOs plane coming into our town my family watched him fly over as he entered Butte. The fireworks started about 20 minutes after he landed.
The best of it is that I was a holder of a golden ticket to Bos 4th of July picnic. We were told that the festivities would begin AFTER the parade and all who held tickets would get in. At 1:15 my family arrived at the Montana Tech grounds. We were greeted by the MT security and told that no one else was being allowed into the event. When we asked why we were told they had no idea.
Many cars were turned away without explanation. Families with small children who had made the long walk uphill (about 1.2 miles in the 96 degree heat) were also not allowed in. This was an opportunity for BO to show his unity to Hillary supporters who are the democratic base here in SW Montana. Instead he turned us away.
I have contacted the Montana Standard and they are looking into the story. Several other individuals have also called them to relate similar incidents. I will update you on the story as soon as I hear more.
I will say I did go through the streets of Butte with my windows down screaming Vote for McCain! PUMA POWER! I received some interesting stares and many smiles. It made me feel better!
BO did nothing here to win over this strong Hillary crowd. Neither his nor McCain’s supporters in the parade got much notice even as they chanted Change along the route.
One homeless veterans sign said it all
“Keep the change, I want Accountability.” He was lucky enough to be near the Civic center area and I am sure BO took notice.
So for all the Pumas out there I hope my small effort was at least a little something. Butte is a tough town and we are strong individuals. We know our minds and do not mind speaking them. We will not be lead to vote for someone who insults our city and citizens with there elitist attitudes and lack of respect.
Lastly, for all those who took time out to visit our city for this event all the way from Washington, Utah, Idaho and Wyoming, we hope you at least enjoyed the parade. Butte was glad to have you here even if BO was not!
This just proves that BO had no intentions of winning over the Typical White Working Class Hillary supporters here in Montana. UNITY MY ASS!!
Hillary/McCain 08
#544 Diva the do not call list does not apply to political campaigns. they had a news story on it because so many people were complaining during the caucus.
577 diva2
big ole cat lick! LOL!
We PUMAS are having a great time celegrating the 4th in our own inimicable way. Love the puns and limerics.
Kool-aid drinkers could never be that clever.
check out: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080702_its_not_the_man_its_the_movement
Hope Obama doesn’t read it . . . he’s beginning to self-destruct.
#556 nlee…would still like to see what you could do with song “you’re so vain” by carly simon
#578 crystalpuma thanks for the news I saw a little on the news MO had her hair back in a short tail. I looked at him and shouted at my TV scum bucket. I know real mature but I felt better, again thanks
578 crystalpuma
what a snuff ball no name is!
anybody seen N. Lee??
#570 Hillmania- thanks for the link, we cannot let this guy win the election.
I know everyone will vote as they wish, I have never voted Republican in my life, but remember that a vote for McCain is a double whammy to Barry, he needs to pick up 2 votes for every vote to McCain.
A no vote or a vote for a 3rd party, he only needs one vote.
We need to defeat him in November- by whatever means necessary. He is unfit for POTUS.
#571 MAXGRADER You are on! Sent an email to Murphy. Yes, it is a great thing and it will come back to you in so many ways!
diva2 aka Kim
# 578 Crystalpuma
Maybe they put Obama in a chicken wire cage so he can unite with those who are going to Denver. Oh, Unity what a magical (thinking) idea!
#579 Darn. I tried! By the way thank you for all you bring and do for us. I don’t always respond but do read yours and other posts.
Shout out to MARYLANDPUMA Thank you for taking over some of the workload from Murphy. What great people you all are and for such a worthy cause. VERY appreciated!
diva2
#309 Pookie on 07.04.08 at 2:28 pm, WROTE,
[[ #263 Cosmeta: Re: voter fraud I live in Indiana and although Hillary won Indiana 50.7%-Nobama 49.3% she was far ahead of him until Lake county (which is 35 minutes from the heart of neighboring Chicago) came in but the results were so late that the news did’nt have them until early morning hours ]]
Yes—I remember watching CNN that night. ALL the other counties were in except for Lake County… That was the only county expected to go heavily for BHO and the late release meant that Hillary had to postpone her victory speech so many who went to bed could not see it being air. IOW, if they were up they might have donated. CNN kept calling the Mayor asking what was wrong.. he said still counting which was bull because they had electronic balloting and with a push of the button he could have called in the results but did not. Think the results came in about 12:30 midnight but dont really remember.
[[So my point being Yes I believe it is possible to have voter fraud. ]]
Voter fraud happens all the time and for decades… but not as heavily misused as in this primary season. Usually the fraud takes place in the general and there are tons of lawyers involved. My point here is, BHO will not be able to get away with what he did with Hillary folks. The republicans would creme him.
Yet another reason he needs us…
But will not get us.
[[I read a quote the other day I don’t remember who said it but it went like this: The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything. Now that is sad.]]
Very sad… and an outrage—yes Agreed! Thing to remember is, if we vote them in, we can vote them out… So go to the Action Center… get that list of delegates… and if they are supposed to be PLEDGED TO HILLARY write to them and tell them that if they do not pledge to her at the Convention they will not have your vote come next election.
IOW, put pressure back where pressure belongs!
Note: The Convention should be a televised event… but I find the best channel to watch is C-Span because they do not have commercial breaks.
From a KoolAid Drinker:
First, a brief introduction:
I made a donation to Senator Clinton’s campaign when she was running for U.S. Senate – and I do not live in New York. I did everything I could to convince people I know who didn’t support Hillary during the primary season – that if she became the candidate, they needed to throw their support behind her in the general election, as I would have done. Until this spring, I would have been pleased to support Hillary in 2012 if the 2008 election were won by John McCain.
No more.
Let’s get three things straight. All are crystal clear. They WILL happen.
1. John McCain WILL win the election in November 2008.
2. P.U.M.A., Just Say No Deal, No Quarter, and the 100+ other groups that have exploded into the political arena in the last three weeks WILL be the reason why John McCain wins the election this November.
3. With Barack Obama dispatched back to Illinois, Senator Hillary Clinton WILL be the Democratic Party nominee in 2012.
After P.U.M.A. and friends are finished with Obama over the next four months, he probably won’t even be re-electable to the Senate. He will likely be defeated by a Republican.
In your successful campaign, you will dispense far more vitriolic hatred directed at Barack Obama than will come from Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, or other lunatic fringe right-wing extremists. You’ll be in good company with them, but you’ll outdo them several-fold in the intensity of your war against your sworn enemy – Barack Obama.
So what about 2012? When Hillary is the nominee, the acronym P.U.M.A. won’t be of much use to you, will it? Neither will Just Say No Deal, No Quarter, or I Own My Vote.
No, in 2012, it will be YOU and your ilk who are calling for ‘Party Unity’ to elect your nominee – Hillary.
And we won’t have forgotten.
I will be fully retired in 2012. That year, I will dedicate my very existence to shouting from the mountaintop (and on the Internet) “Party Unity, My Ass.” I will be an organizer, as you are now. And I won’t be alone.
We will turn the tables on you. We will give you a taste of you medicine.
In the meantime, it is my dream and fervent hope that I will open the newspaper one morning this year and read with delight that a member of the P.U.M.A. coalition went hiking in some western foothills, and was attacked, mauled, torn to shreds, and half eaten . . . by a real PUMA. Then I will go back to believing it is a beautiful animal.
P.S.: I’ll be in Denver.
__________________
Among other things, I told him we’ll see him in Denver.
Diva2
Welcome.
# 586 GosueF4Hil
I know how you feel. I too would have never voted republican, but without Hillary, McCain is the only one out there with a chance of beating Obama. I too will be voting McCain – anything else I’m afraid is just siphoning off votes. A republican will be hard but Obama would be intolerable.
I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I found this in my SPYWARE instructions:
BHO monitoring actively monitors BHO registry entry and protects users’ PC against spyware BHO at the entry point.
If this option is checked, ***** continuously monitors BHO Registry key against Spyware BHO database. As soon as any new Spyware BHO registry key is created , it is removed successfully. It notifies the user with a message “BHO removed successfully. We would recommend scanning with spyware detector in full scan mode” if Live Monitoring notification is ON.
If you set BHO Monitor to “off”, it may leave your
system vulnerable to infections by spyware BHO.
It is recommended that you leave BHO monitor always On.
NO ‘BHO’ for me – my BS alert is always on. ROFLMAO
Dear koolaid drinker
Hillary won the election NOW, not in 20012. It is NOW she should be nominated. By 20012 the Gore 2003 rule will apply.
Glad you see the strength of PUMA.
P.S. They don’t eat their own – unlike the ironically named Democratic party.
Happy July 4th Pumas.
I hope everyone is having a good day. I am trying to play catch-up with the posts. There are a lot.
I really want to go to Denver. I hope my schedule works out so I can.
I don’t like the idea of noname moving his speech. What an ego.
CrystalPuma
Thanks for the update. The man’s shout would make a good slogan for the thingy PUMA’s will wear in Denver:
“Keep the change, PUMA’s want Accountability.”
#563 TURNDOWNPUMAS Thanks for the feedback and I agree! Have a great holiday!
#594 Maryland PUMA
LOL That was rich!
I have to agree with the people saying its not good to not vote or to vote independent.
I know we need to send a message to the Democrats, but we also do not want Obama to be president.
Main reason I do not want Obama is that I do not feel that Obama is really concerned about America and ALL American people. This is not to mention all the flip flopping, racism, sexist and etc.
With McCain I feel confident that he is truly interested in America, America’s future and ALL of its people. Right now as it stands it looks like Obama is leaning very much in McCain’s direction.
So people think about it before you stay home instead of voting. If you stay home or vote for the independent; its a vote Obama.
JMHO —
I still believe in dreams and miracles.
I think it would behoove us to consider sending out a flyer in the Money Mailers or in the Sunday Coupon fliers.
Any thoughts?
I have been maxed out in the primary for a long time and had donated $650.00 to the GE for Hillary. Today July 4th I signed the web site allowing Hillary to repurpose the funds for 2012. I truly hope she uses it for the GE in 2012, but even if it is for the 2012 senate it is ok with me, I am from California and can only wish she were my Senator. Since I can no longer help pay down her debt, I have donated funds to The Denver Group and to Puma PAC.
I cannot go to Denver, but I certainly hope that those of you who can go will and I will continue to try to make it possible!
Happy Birthday PUMA and Happy Birthday to the USA God bless us all!
586 GoSuef
I agree. I have never voted for a repub. I do not see McCain as a repeat of Bush. It is definitely a tough call for many.
For me. I would rather cut my hands off then to vote for Mr. Snuff Ball.
I do believe our HRC will be the nominee and I hold the vision in my mind and in my heart everyday.
#591 Maryland puma,
That is great. The obots are finally realizing what a mistake they have made. He admitted that O will not win. Now the more we convince before the convention…?
And to the post about the Obots backing off some what. Well some are. These are the principled ones. I think they realize or are coming to realize that they have been had.
The ones I’m dealing with are just getting nastier. I cant post what one just referred to me as.
Like I told him about “O’s flip flops. Just keep feeding the PUMAS.
594 maryland puma
LMAO!
Oh and happy Fourth everyone. I need to go put the brats on.:)
messin with the site again, I guess.
Well it didn’t last long thats one good thing.
I agree with #600 & others that have posted on stragic voting. I had already decided to McCain Vote, or as I like to call it, McVote for the same reasons. Sure Hillary was my and could still be my first choice. I’m registered as a Dem too, but I’m aginst BO. A McVote will mean BO needs one more vote to beat McCain. If I don’t vote I’m just stepping aside to let BO in the whitehouse. I also know there is no way a 3rd party vote will keep BO out of the whitehouse. No one wants BO in the whitehouse. That just stinks. So my logic is to McVote, but that’s just my opinon.
Checking to see if this posts-I got a server error.
All right where’d everybody go? Are we under attack? I want my (Puma’s!!!!!!)
I was in contact with a local National Delegate regarding Hillary’s name being on the roll call. I sent the information she gave me to Murphy in case I couldn’t get to the posting today. But since the traffic in posting is a bit lighter right I was able to get through the thread and decided to post it.
“Here is perhaps a more succinct description of what needs to be accomplished for a name to be placed into nomination:
“The convention rules permit floor nominations if (i) the request is signed by the nominee, (ii) he request is accompanied by a petition containing at least 300 but not more than 600 delegate signatures (no more than 50 from any one state), and (iii) is given to the
convention Secretary by 6 p.m. the day preceding the presidential candidate.”
The National Delegate also noted that there is a network of national delegates for Hillary being
formed from across the county- it is growing in numbers daily.
I am also voting for McCain. I can’t stay home and not vote.
I wanted to write Hillary in but in Connecticut it will only count as a protest vote it would be like writing in Sponge Bob for POTUS.
hi all trouble again? had to try couple times to get on
diva2 (#587):
Looks like money isn’t so easy to give away here. Just emailed Murphy that the page for contributing won’t accept mine.
I’m ready with a credit card for speed. Sometimes though the old fashinoned ways of payment work best. Actually, I’d rather send a check for security reasons.
Awaiting Murphy’s reply.
I just sent the link of the U tube video of Libyan leader Mu’ammar al-Qadhafi to Glen Beck. It would be interesting if this video had legs and ran with the idea that the Middle East is supporting Obama in hopes that he would be sympathetic to their causes.
I think many people would think twice about his electibility and risk factor.
I am trying to post on CNN and none of posts are going through. That drives me nuts.
I just handed out fliers at Philadelphia’s Independence Mall for a couple of hours. I figured someone had to do it today. It was exciting to do political canvassing in front of the National Constitution Center and Independence Hall, and mere steps away from the Liberty Bell on Independence Day!
I asked people if they were still interested in seeing Hillary in the White House and about a dozen took fliers and seemed very interested. I was surprised how many people were unaware that Hillary could still be nominated at the convention. I was able to convince many that she still had a chance at the convention and many seemed interested in our site and cause. Maybe we’ll see some of them on here soon.
I may hand out more fliers this weekend if it doesn’t rain too much or leave them in people’s doors in my neighborhood (remember, we can’t leave them in mailboxes). I hope others will hand out fliers so that we can get the word out to those who don’t know!
Happy Independence Day from Philadelphia!
I am voteing McCain also if not Hillary. If the golden boy keeps it up might be easier to get her now.I think he is messing up with flip flops.We cannt underestimate him though
#578CrystalPuma – I love that slogan and I will use it myself with letters to SD’s – KEEP THE CHANGE – I WANT ACCOUNTABILITY.
Glad to hear that Butte was for Hillary – I thought all the big cities were for the no named one –
IF you find out more on what was going on – please do post.
Alucard Rodham Puma
fred I saw that its great. Can you send that to Hannity at fox? He’s been doing some good owrk there.
#536 GoCliffnote – I was happy that you came over here – you had great videos at HRC – I tried to get onto Normitas site – had to use a neighbors computer – my computer is too old and the browser is not supported on her site – could never get anything to appear – I did post a few times – but its easier to be at home rather than going to a neighbors –
Please keep posting here – your posts were always welcomed.
Alucard Rodham Puma
oops work i ment
Awesome Philly for Rodham Hillary
I’m so glad you guys came back. I thought I would have to check into Puma rehab or something.
Hi all, Happy 4th! I’ve been reading and have to chime in. Seen some great ideas above.
Here’s my take on the Florida PUMAS going to Denver;
You have to make costumes….sew a woman’s dress on half connected to man’s suit (empty lol) on the other and make up your face/hair/beard so your 1/2 of each other…it was a great skit years ago! leave the question, which half of my vote counted?
I just got booted off the internet. I need to go make ribs, corn on the cob, and tater salad anyway. (It’s on 4:17 in AZ) Happy 4th and best.
Good night from me, PUMAs. My computer apparently wants a break as it I’m having trouble logging in, I get logged in, and then it re-starts. I take this activity as a sign that I need a break too. I’ll be checking in tomorrow.
P.S. glad go-fish are back. Is that a card game?
271 ladyhawkke on 07.04.08 at 1:54 pm, WROTE,
[[ #176 Cosmeta I got the same reply; however, when I donated, there was a statement there that said this contribution was to be used only to retire her debt.]]
Yeah—that was the online automatic response. The other i mentioned was from an email confirmation and I thought it odd that they have the same old email response. I thought by now they might have updated it.
You can’t put flyers “in” mailboxes But you can stick them behind the flag. I fold them over in half and stick them on the outside, under the flag or tape them, whatever. The federal law is that you just can’t open the box and put anything in it. The outside is fair game.
Also flourescent paper like orange and green grabs peoples attention and they will read them on the way back to the house. It’s really effective.
If anyone wants to get involved in the focus on the Swing States email: cruccia@ymail.com
I have her permission to post.
Accountability breeds Response-ability
Well I am going to the 4th of july fireworks must get some warm clothes it is rather chilly here in Indiana
Happy 4th PUMA’S
#595 Notyoursweetie
Good point about pumas not eating their own.
Happy Fourth Dear Pumas! Great post as always, Murphy!
I’ve been out of touch for several days — in home rennovation h-ll. But, I made sure to log on this evening to donate $20.08 (just did) to HRC through this site — very helpful!
And, since I can’t go to Denver, I just made my donation to help cover someone else!
Have a great evening everyone. Hope to catch up with all the postings soon.
#591 Maryland PUMA
“In the meantime, it is my dream and fervent hope that I will open the newspaper one morning this year and read with delight that a member of the P.U.M.A. coalition went hiking in some western foothills, and was attacked, mauled, torn to shreds, and half eaten . . . by a real PUMA. Then I will go back to believing it is a beautiful animal. P.S. I’ll be in Denver.”
These frat boys are so violent. Imagine wasting your time and energy fantasizing someone’s violent death just because they’ll be casting a vote differently than you will? It’s astounding. No wonder they are so susceptible to kool-aid.
Love the threat at the end: P.S. I’ll be in Denver.
What a freak.
Declaration of PUMA Objections
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/04/declaration-of-puma-objections/#more-3422
By PaganPowercloseAuthor: PaganPower Name: Pagan Power
Guest Post by AnnabelleP 7-4-08. 6:00 p. m.
“CHANGE” DOESN’T MEAN “IMPROVEMENT”
#632 goanderson-
thanks for the post, it makes the best sense to focus on the swing states. He is going to win blue states no matter what, McCain will most likely win the traditionally red states.
We need action in the swing states.
Hopefully, he will continue to assist us with his flip-flopping arrogance.
went back (was I being foolish?) to yestodemocracy.org
I saw they are still being repugnant about pumas and they have deleted all but a few puma responses… so far they have 5 story lines going for us and have had 95 posts on the whole site… what a joke… one said we never give reasons for our stance so i sent them and she deleted it stating it was too long… LOL I called the site a joke in a “short” comment and left…
#578 crystalpuma.
You go girl!!!!!!! I wish I could drive down the street with my windows down yelling!!!!
Hi PUMAs
Not much time inbetween barbeques, etc. Did find the following information on OpenSecrets about O’s giving to fellow senators and repre during elections. He has a PAC called HOPE Fund where all his donations come from. In 2002, there were no donations from this PAC. In 2004, no donations (probably because he wasn’t in the Senate yet either year). Then 2006 (the year he was elected into the Senate), his PAC gave $337,526 to House Demos (71 repres) The largest donation was $12,326 to Patrick Murphy (D-PA). The smallest donation was $1,000 ea. to six different reps. Another $239,243 was given to Senate Demos (38). The largests donations were $10,000 ea. to 14 different Senators (MaCaskill being one of them). The smallest donations were $2,000 to Daniel Hynes in Illinois.
In 2008 (this year to date) he has donated $227,000 to House Demos (51) and $68,000 to Senate Demos(11). The largest donation to a rep. was $9,000 to David Loebsack (D-IA) and in the Senate, $10,000 ea to Tom Allen (D-ME), Mark udall (D-CO), and Mark Warner(D-VA)
Obviously, 2006 was the bigger year because he wasn’t “running for President” so to speak. But he was sure shoring up his base. Look at where these particular people are from and that even more interesting.
If you want to do more analysis, go to OpenSecrets.org. It’s easy to navigate.
mailed all the superD’s that GoAlucard asked us to do this am. Whew!
313 Fred,
Color theme: dark blue background, with gold letters
Wording:
IT’S NOW
OR NEVER
NEVER TOO LATE
HILLARY IN ’08
PLEDGE OR A WEDGE
HILLARY IN ’08
HEAR US ROAR
SHOW BRO THE DOOR
HILLARY IN ’08
THERE CAN BE NO OTHER
HILLARY IN ’08
YES YOU CAN!
CORRECTION
NOT DECEPTION
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!
I kind of like Selection Not Selection
But I’m not so sure about using any image of BHO
Anyway… you asked
so my 2 cents worth
oopse…
Meant… Election Not Selection
Murphy, I get CNN new alerts about our unDemocratic Party. I sent you a copy. Thought you might be interested..
Bill Schneider is wrong; we will not forget by November.
Keep up the great work.
Bonnie
629 bythelake
LOL!
If anyone wants to get involved in the focus on the Swing
States email: cruccia@ymail.com
I have her permission to post.
Cynthia Ruccia, Co-Founder of Women For Fair Politics
Hi again everyone.
Love all the responses! New information is starting to come in but you can see the days events at the http://www.mtstandard.com/following link.
Make note that the bleachers for the parade were only for those individuals not behind the cattle gates. This is a very small representation of the crowd that stretched along Harrison Ave for almost four miles. I am still researching, but it may very well be possible that the main crowd was not allowed into this arena area. As I said before a lot of people were supposedly bussed in.
Fox news reports that BO said he did not participate in the parade due to the fact that individuals along the parade route would have to show their hands as he came by and he did not want to spoil the party.
MY ASS… The Governor sighned a girls book right next to me while his attendants handed out stickers to my children and others near him. I think Barrack was to scared of us gun toting religious Montana working class to venture to far out of the safe zone. If he would have done so he would have found us to be polite and respectful of him if not cheering and falling on the ground fainting from his prescense.
Can anyone tell me if this is a common practice for a politician to have us show our hands? I was at the Bill Clinton rally and could have reached out and touched him and was not expected to go through any type of security.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/04/obama-family-celebrates-independence-day-in-montana/
Look at the crowd at the picnic. You will see alot of wasted space on the grounds. There is no way this was 2000 people.
One good thing is that it rained and hailed harder then it has all year today. I am sure he was not to dry after all was done. Ironic that it has not rained in 3 weeks until last night, upon BOs arrival.
Gotta go for now , break in the rain for some FW !
Murphy – Thank you, for all you do.
I was just thinking, so forgive me if I ramble on.
I can’t believe it’s one month since this site began – I think I was one of the first few who couldn’t fill the first page of bloggers.
Remembering how upset and depressed I had become by the end of May, and what a relief it was to find this wonderful site, I can’t help but wonder how people who are not as politically aware (and I’m not that aware), are dealing with it. Have they become apathetic and resolved in accepting the Nameless One because they don’t want another four years of McBush?
WE KNOW, BUT I think there are too many Democrats out there who feel it’s a done deal, not understanding that Hillary did NOT concede, but ONLY suspended her campaign. If more people knew that she is still BREATHING, they may see ‘real’ HOPE and might reconsider.
How do we get this message to them – Fox, MSNBC, CNN, AARP?
GROWL POWER
greta
goanderson
Did you get the information on where Webfoot’s letter can be found? If not, go upstairs, look on the right of the page, scroll down to Recent Posts, click on Denver, go to Post #425.
Do any of you PUMAs know of one of the 100s of Hillary supporting websites with PUMA folks that don’t support Obama and won’t vote for McCain???
652 halligan
Thanks, I found it. I had written it down last night, I just couldn’t find where I had written it. LOL! senior moment.
Does anyone know how to get a list of state delegates (not super delegates) to the National convention. I did find a site, but our State delegates weren’t listed. Only about half of the states were listed. I e-mailed the executive director of the state party to see if I could get it that way. I wanted to send the info from post #3 to each of them. I’ve tried to get a list via people who attended the state convention, but that is next to impossible because the list wasn’t complete until after the convention was over. I’ve tried looking in the large state newspapers for coverage, but haven’t found anything yet. At this point, I’m sending the information to each of the Super Delegates in our state.
go #654
Nah, you’re too young for one of those senior moments. At 64, I’ve probably got you beat by a few years.
#653 BilleJo-Not all Pumas will vote for McCain. The one thing we all have in common is that we won’t vote for Obama. Many of us (me included) will vote for McCain as a stratigic move to keep Obama out but if you would rather vote third party or not vote that is fine too. You have to do what you feel is right for you.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
“These things always take time to heal,” CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider said. “I think Clinton’s supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them.”
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LMAO, Bill Schneider doesn’t know his donkey from a hole in the ground. We are not waiting for Obama to pick Hillary, we don’t want Obama to pick Hillary. Either way, we wlll NOT vote for Obama…don’t you people get it????? We don’t want Obama, no way, no how!!!
My comments are always waiting moderation, LOL
comments are still open:]
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/04/clinton-supporters-still-not-embracing-obama-poll-says/#comment-1329248
Everyone on here is younger than me, I bet.
@Salon.com
Why Clinton voters say they won’t support Obama
The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.
By Rebecca Traister
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/06/23/pumas/index.html
“But why do you keep hearing all these stories about grumpy old ladies still hung up on Hillary Clinton, the ones who’re threatening to make a scene at the Democratic convention in Denver, or vote for John McCain in November?” ( = STEREOTYPE!!!!!!)
To be fair, it’s not just women. There are plenty of Clinton supporters of every demographic description who are still ticked. But yes, it’s true that the Clinton base skewed female, and that women over 30 are the most vocal of the malcontents. Some of them are calling themselves “PUMAs” (as in “Party Unity My Ass”), an acronym that makes them sound, appropriately enough, like cougars in a very bad mood. Who are these women, and why are they such buzzkills?”
“To be fair, it’s not just women. There are plenty of Clinton supporters of every demographic description who are still ticked. But yes, it’s true that the Clinton base skewed female, and that women over 30 are the most vocal of the malcontents. Some of them are calling themselves “PUMAs” (as in “Party Unity My Ass”), an acronym that makes them sound, appropriately enough, like cougars in a very bad mood. Who are these women, and why are they such buzzkills?
Now the Democratic Party is moving forward, as it must, but it is doing so without giving the Clinton women a real hearing — without letting them vent their anger. It is the social equivalent of talking over them, waving off their complaints, assuming they’ll come around. This is a mistake. This is only making things worse (even if, as Walter Shapiro notes, history says they will come around, no matter how many PUMA T-shirts and Web sites like this one may be sprouting now).
Here are a dozen reasons why some Clinton supporters are mad …
…this list is not comprehensive. It is based on interviews with women at Clinton’s June 3 nonconcession speech and her June 7 concession speech, and on comments I heard from some attendees at an EMILY’s List conference a week after Clinton bowed out.
1. They are angry because their candidate lost a close contest.
2. They are angry because their historic opportunity is over.
3. They are angry about rumors that Obama may choose a woman other than Hillary Clinton as his running mate.
4. They are angry that we started to talk about sexism only once Clinton stopped being a threat.
5. They are angry at the media’s repeated denial of sexism, and they are angry at Keith Olbermann.
6. They are mad at Howard Dean.
7. They are mad at Barack Obama.
8. They are mad at Bill Clinton. Um, obviously.
9. They are mad at Mark Penn.
10. They are mad at Hillary Clinton for conceding and not taking their fight on to Denver.
11. They are mad that everyone believes them to be old, white and racist. They are mad at the people they thought were supposed to be progressives for treating them badly.
12. And finally, they are angry because they feel they are held hostage by the party by their reproductive organs.
These angry people have nowhere else to go. So the safe expectation is that they will fall in line without much kicking and screaming. And that, ultimately, is why many of them are kicking and screaming. Yes, they’re going to vote for Obama. Of course they’ll vote for him. The truth is, they’ll probably love voting for him. But after what they feel has been done to them — the way in which they were written off, marginalized and resented, their hopes mocked and their history-making ambitions dismissed as retrograde identity politicking — damned if they’re going to be nice girls about it.”
Not bad, but they still don’t get it.
They will in Denver and they will in November
…………………..sigh
Its the DNC, silly.
Its the leaders of the Democratic Party thinking we will let them pull the wool over our eyes. Pumas don’t do wool.
313 Fred,
RIGHT
NOT WRIGHT
REACH FOR
THE CEILING
MAD AS HELL!
DNC FELL
CHANGE NOW!
FOR UNITY
ONE VOICE
ONE CHOICE
HILLARY IN ’08
#502 Suzy T No I can’t go to Denver, wish I could. The main thing is my sleeping problem. I use a Cpap machine and I really need it. Wish you lived closer to me, though, as I need support around here. Lots of former Hillary supporters are going to vote for the empty suit because they don’t like McCain. They could vote for Nader. I did want to ask everyone what they think about that as opposed to voting for McCain. I really don’t like McCain but will vote for him if it will keep Obama out.
Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
Contact: jennifer
Amount: $100.44
So glad to declare my independence today! In honor of Hillary and her family we donated to PAY OFF HER DEBT and allow her to continue to push for her rightful position as the Democratic Presidential Nominated Candidate for President 2008.
Looks like CNN’s last poll shows the DNC and ‘that man’ that Hillicrats will NEVER give up–since ‘unity’ day, according to this poll, ‘that man’ has lost ANOTHER 16% of Hillicrats. This means that over TWO AND A HALF MILLION Hillicrats have now spit out the kool aid–GO GIRLS GO!!
CORRECTION TO POST # 347 – babysitting and typing do not go hand in hand
Michigan – correct email addy should be:
Ficano – Rficano@co.wayne.mi.us
and
Hawaii – Withington – should be : jeaniwithington@aol.com
Thanks to GoAndersenRodhamPuma keen puma eyesight.
Sorry
Happy 4th everyone. I feel like I haven’t posted in forever. Summer is crazy at my house.
Anyway, I have been doing the daily growls. Also, I sent an e-mail to a cousin of mine asking her to join Pumapac. She then sent it on to an uncle of her husband. This uncle then sent her an email suggesting that we were republicans trying to divide the democratic party and that Hillary would probably have won if Bill had kept his mouth shut. Sounds definitely like an Obama supporter.
That made me so angry. Anyway, I wrote back posting the Declaration of Objections from the top of this thread and told my cousin to let her uncle know that anyone who thinks that Bill lost the election for Hillary has been watching too much CNN. Also that the DNC divided the party, not us, and we are not republicans. My response was pages long. My cousin will probably regret telling me what her uncle said.
It is so hard sometimes to keep my cool when people are so ignorant, but I tried hoping to convince the uncle why we are doing what we are doing.
655 halligan
I have phone numbers to CA delegates, no addresses.
Have maryland puma mail your addy to me and I will hook you up with the person I got that info from. Maybe she can help you
656 halligan
I am not that far behind you!
Fred,
WE’LL UNIFY
WHEN PUMAS FLY
#459 FRED I’ve seen this video before but someone commented that we don’t know what he’s really saying. It could be propaganda. I don’t know unless someone understands what the hell he’s speaking. As for downloading it to your computer, when you go to Utube, there is a link that says “Download this video” When you click on it, it usually goes into your Real Player, that’s where I have some of Obambi’s things saved. I started to download but then when I came back here, it quit. Will have to do it when I’m done.
# 655
This might help.
http://www.demconvention.com/certified-delegates-ec
658 hillaryistheone
I would say he doesn’t know his A– from a keyhole!
Patronizing Bafoon!
go #666
I saw the California people listed on the California site, but no Washington State. I’ll e-mail Maryland again. Thanks.
659 Halligan
What would we do without wisdom?? That means you.
660 HillaryHead
I’ll show them a grumpy old lady! LOL!
#659 BET NOT HALLIGAN – I am 86 years old……but still young enough to fight for Hillary during my lifetime.
Drac
668 antifish
and lay eggs
#660 hillaryhead
I am not angry….I just am not stupid enough to vote for an empty suit!! And I am just smart enough to see that the DNC and Democartic party elites have shafted WE THE PEOPLE that are the real Democrats of this shameless party.
muchado~curious if you saw the Murial on the side of the store I mentioned yesterday?
comment on Why Clinton voters say they won’t support Obama
The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.
By Rebecca Traister [2008-06-23]
_____________________________________
too many isms.
They are mad that everyone believes them to be old, white and racist.
In other words, they know how the men in the party feel. They know how West Virginia feels. They know how Obama supporters feel about constantly being accused of sexism and/or misogyny.
The Democratic Party and the progressive movement need to ease off the constant name calling and loose accusations of bigotry, and start giving the diverse voices of people both within and without (in several senses) room to breathe, rather than judging people and groups by a single misplaced phrase (“bitter”, “cling”, “sweetie”; “hard-working white voters”, Kennedy assassination, etc.)–or, even worse, forcing interpretations on the actions of others without significant evidence. We’re not only wrecking the party, we’re undermining the capacity for open debate.
– brasslantern
____________________________
Now here is a thinker versus an hysterical reactor.
other comments are old time: not patriots “The Deeper Issue is Patriotism not Sexism
These partisans are about to repeat the error of the anti-war generation who defected rather than vote in an imperfect system. They’re “taking it personal” and thereby basically conceeding to the side who really wants to see a return to a pre-60′s culture.”, ? racist: “Lamenting the nomination of the first black candidate because you were only interested in a white female nominee is the mentality of the old, white feminists… and it’s a very unfortunate view. (hippies?)
Clinton supporters may not be racist, but their obsession with the advancement of white women, combined with apparent indifference to racism (not to mention actual policy), makes it hard to take the PUMAs seriously.” aha, race card.
Boy oh boy, I did not realize how nutzy these unsophisitcated unPumas were. Whew. Batten down the hatches, get your teeth cleaned, watch your back.
Denver or Bust
672 hallligan
have maryland mail me your addy. I will send you that contact. She may be able to help you, not sure.
If someone tells you that you are a racist if you don’t vote for Obama then just tell them “Me racist? Are you Kidding? The only thing I like about him is that he is black.”
I found that it is easier to tell people what you like about Obama instead of what you don’t like because the list is shorter.
Hi Hilligan, My step mom is a puma member and she is 74 years young. she will be posting by this weekend…she has had a tough time getting logged on..But, thanks to the great support group here she has logged in….I and my friends will send ( snail mail) our donation for Hillary. And, we will send to Murphy $$$ for Denver. I have to be honest I worked for Hillary since Feb. 08 (Volunteering, $$$$$$ , Calling and doing everything I could to do. But, I do not feel comfortable send $$$ at her site. Since, BO has taken over…So, our Donation will get there by Tuesday or Wednesday…. I will be handing out flyer’s in my neighborhood and at the shopping mall over this weekend. Also, we have a Stater Bros Market who will let me offer information about Puma as long as I am not asking for $$$..So, I and a friend will be doing that on Sunday. Here in CA that is a great Shopping day to catch everyone. Murphy and Everyone HAPPY 4TH OF JULY… wishing all of you the very best in Health, Happiness and Love….Take Care, Suzanne
Antifish and Goanderson- I hope you still have my back because I am getting braver with my posts. These Obama supporters really get me ticked off.
679 hillaryhead
Where do this kind of people live? Good Lord, are they ever confused. must be all the electromagnetism from their ipods, gameboys, and headphones. LOL!
It reads like a really bad cut and paste job to me. I think that is called plagiarism. The apple isn’t falling far from the dying tree.
#659 Halligan
I got you beat by a couple! I’m one of those old ladies, blue collar, undeducated, etc.
GROWL POWER
greta
TXsherry I LOVE IT….and I agree, I would hate him MORE if he was white
Amy Goodman has a good article on line trashing Obama. She was all in two weeks ago, so I think the tide is turning!
682 texassherry
I don’t have a list. There isn’t anything I like, nothing.
He is a disgrace to this country, this party and his race.
# 658 hillaryistheone
I posted a comment at CNN Political Ticker also- so far still in moderation- oh well, I do try
Thanks for the link
#676 goandersen
And crack nuts with their tails
#655 Halligan – I used to have access to a site broken down by State for all the delegates – not the superdelegates – will have to go through my favorite files to see if I can locate for you – will post once I do.
Drac
684 texassherry
never doubt it.
690 antifish
lol!
On a serious note,
This has indeed been an “historical” primary season. For the first time in our history an African American and a woman both competed for the Democratic Nomination. There were record turnouts at the voting polls in both Primaries and Caucuses. Now, although media would have us believe that the record turnouts were brought about by the masterful charismatic charm of Mr O. And I am sure to a certain degree this was true. Yet it is also true that Hillary Clinton also attracted a huge base of supporters matching him in every respect.
There is another reason why so many came out. The obvious reason is this: Voters came out to protest the Bush Administration and their dissatisfaction. Young people flocked to the polls, not because of Mr O but because they are concerned about the Iraq war and wish to see and end to it; not because they are unpatriotic but because they have seen their loved ones and friends come home missing a limb or worst yet, not coming home at all. Around every dinner table in America and in every school, the talk of the day was when will this war end and who is best qualifed to end it. As PUMA’S our choice is clear: The one person best equipped to end the war is Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Still, there is another reason why this Primary cycle has excited so many and kept so many of us glued to our tv sets… and it is the one reason that has been so overlooked throughout this race; and that is the issue over Florida and Michigan. Howard Dean has miscalculated the results of his actions and now he is paying the price for his foolhearty decision not to seat Florida and Michigan. History will not forget and will long remember what he did to disenfranchise the many for the sake of the few. And we, my dear friends are part of that history.
In an attempt to unify the Party, Howard Dean has torn the tent asunder and ripped it in two. So if anyone ask you why have we coalesed in June of this year, reply, we were patiently awaiting the results of the May 31st DNC meeting and the resolution we were promised. Instead we were betrayed yet one more time. And THAT is unforgivable.
I truly believe, that none of us would be here if that disception had not occured. I truly believe that without Howard Dean’s intervention, WE THE PEOPLE would have been willing to wait another week or so to see how the SuperDelegates voted. I truly believe that had Hillary lost in a fair and equatable manner, we may have been disappointed—yes, but we would not have been angry.
But that is not what happened.
And for that, history will recored this election season as one of the worst blunders made by a party that all too often shots itself in the foot to spit its face or as they say, creates a circular firing squad. In trying to unite the Party, Mr Dean has forgotten about one of its key components:
US
And that’s why I love and admire Hillary so… because she spoke for the silent majority.
She spoke for me.
She spoke for, US.
This site has a list of the delegates by state.
http://www.demconvention.com/certified-delegates-ec
cosmeta
RIGHT ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
#94 Cosmeta- Beautifully written. Believe it or not when I talk to the Obama supporters I am respectful and try to give them facts to the reason I am not voting for Obama. I have even converted a few and got a few at least to start questioning and hopefully doing some research on their own. My above comment was just being sarcastic and trying to lighten the mood.
ontherocks
Thanks!!
694 Cosmeta
Brillant post. I love your stuff. Another good one for the book.
I too think cosmeta did her soap box proud!
# 698.
Your Welcome
I hope it helps!
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,”
In this case, it is the political BONDS
texassherry,
Where in Tx are you?
Jeremy-I am in a little town called Laguna Park. It is about halfway between Ft. Worth and Waco.
Happy Puma Independent from the Democratic Party Day
keep your fur dry all Pumas, all you wonderful women and men
Good evening
Happy Independenc Day PUMAS!!! I donated $20.08 to retire the debt of Hillary and I know so many of you did too! Congratulations PUMAS we are making a difference! I am a proud PUMA.
The reason I ask in #703~I was talking with muchado a little last evening and told her about a murial along the entire side of this store located near downtown Hou.
Question for our Goalucard4Hill
Love your name (by the way). I know the alucard is Dracula backwards – but is the “Go” at the beginning suppose to stand for “ Go Dracula”, or what? Enlighten us Pumas, with your story.
#695 Thank you On the Rocks you beat me to it -
#655 Halligan – this is the one that you should use.
No Deal: 4th of July Fundraising w/ “You Don’t Own Me”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUe3-A4V6tM
I donated yesterday and mailed it off snail mail. $20.08
708
yeah Drac. enlighten us!
Karla@665: That’s part of what it’s for. It refutes, in rational language that is natural to the American intellect, every lie they tell about us and about what went down. It’s a big bundle of unemotional truth that forces them to pay a little closer attention.
I’m thinking of trying to fundraise to have it printed up in handbill form so we can hand it out at the Convention. What say you (all)?
#708 Star Dust – the GO was decided upon at the Hillary Clinton site when we were certain that it would be closed down and we wanted to recognize each other in the “next life” on blogs – so whenever you see a GoAndersen – GoSuef or Go anyone – we used to be together as a close knit group over there.
Dracula is a blood sucker – not to be messed with – just ask some of our opponents.
Drac Rodham Puma
#704 texasshery~A little far just to make a drive by to take in this murial. Cool. A good friend of mine went to Baylor.
#517 With regard to that comment about Patti Solis Doyle, double agent, I read an article that Hillary’s campaign was sabotauged from within and without. Bet she’s the inside traitor.
713 annabelle
I like it. Good to send to the superD’s as well.
#694 Cosmeta,
Thank you for so eloquently giving us a voice. You’re an amazing puma!
Jeremy-There is a beautiful mural painted on the outside of the museum near here in Lake Whitney. I am also only a few miles from the famous courthouse in Hillsboro that Willie Nelson helped to rebuild after it burned. Also not much further is Willie Nelson’s bio fuel station and concert hall that just opened today.
Geez, was only gone for a little while and I’m at #517 and already I see #717. Things happen fast here.
Thank – You for that I should have been GoTutite over there so now I will be GoStarDust Rodham Puma
…how’s that.
#678 JEREMY
I look but didn’t see it. Took 288 to 59 and then took the Elgin exit. Drove around in that neighborhood. Elgin to Bagby. Up Travis to 45. Then back to Elgin past bagby and ended up in the Montrose area. By that time it had started to rain so I had to stop at Niko-Nikos and eat. Went back to the Bagby/Elgin area and drove around a little. Ended up on 59 south going toward Shepard. Turned around and went back up 59 north to 288 and back home. Not sure how I could have missed it??????
Goalucard #709
Thanks. I tried that site and Washington State was not listed. Any other idea? I’m trying some other avenues, but I’m welcome to advice.
Jeremy-I am also close to George W. Bush’s ranch in Crawford but we don’t talk about that.
Happy Independence Day hillaryhead and imustprotest. Welcome to the Pumas! I’m so proud of each and every one of us!
Hi Pumas – went to CNN site:
July 4th, 2008 9:05 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
CNN – you guys just don’t get it – we PUMAs will not fall in line – we will still remember in November and OBAMA will not be getting our votes – this is more than just anger at the way Hillary was treated – this is about protesting the whole DNC/Democratic Party 2008 selection of a nominee rather than an election……………….some PUMAs will vote for McCain, others for 3rd party candidate, others will write in Hillary (if allowed), others will not vote (hoping they will change their minds – right to vote is too important to waste by not voting) but none of us will vote for Obama……………………….
#719 oh yeah~I knew there was something about Laguna Park. When I was a kid, we use to go camping at the State Park there at Lake Whitney. Well, the murial I am talking about is nothing to brag about…it is more or a eye sore.
#594 Cosmeta
So powerful. Thanks.
#313FRED I like Selected not Elected. And no picture of BO unless there is a red circle around his face with a line thru it.
# 726 Susie1945
Yeah I did too still in moderation (forever)
Just because I supported Hillary certainly isn’t a good reason to blindly support Obama. Hillary was a fantastic candidate. Most people who knew Hillary loved her and loved what should stood for. I don’t know what Obama stands for. Heck I don’t even know if Obama knows what Obama stands for. Why should I support such a wishee –washee candidate? Just because the Democratic Party is forcing him down my throat. I’m beginning to think the DNC is secretly Republican or why would they be making me feel so much like voting for McCain this year.
Might as well stand on my soap box here- it looks like I’m being ignored over there.
To All:
Looked at the Washington State Democratic Platform that was approved. The “Elections” articles were interesting, but a little late for this election. I looked at the other issues presented and just steamed. Our caucus both at the precinct and county had “no”, zippo discussion of issues. It was so unorganized and uninformative. This platform doesn’t represent me because I didn’t get an opportunity to discuss them. Selfish, huh? Will, it just wasn’t me. It was all the other hundreds of people that it affected as well. Just another error the the Party that I no longer belong to is imploding from within.
Where is Trish?
722 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.04.08 at 9:03 pm
You were in the area. I just saw yesterday by accident. I am going back to the area tomorrow and get a picture. It is there, believe me. Speaking of Nikos-Nikos..was is your rating on the place. I have never been but want to go.
I was thinking about going to the Demo booth tonight at the festivities and getting an O bumper sticker. Then I can take a pen and really have fun with a great big NO
revise~it yesterday. I am going to see if it made some news coverage in the Chronicle.
#726 Susie1845,
You committed the CNN sin. You said Pumas. Your comment will be held in perpetual moderation.
736 antifish
just say’ Big Cats” instead
#686 Gordana
You’re a trail blazer. Join the 60s club
You’re in for a treat. Beautiful piece titled: 56 Honorary PUMAs”, by myiq2xu, at The Confluence:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/fifty-six-honorary-pumas/#comments
goandersen
Here you go again! First its pigs, then its chickens, not its big cats. Goodness
One more thing, I went back to your post #722. It is at the intersection of West Alabama and either Bagby or Elgin. Right before you get to the 59 overpass that turns into Louisiana Street.
Perpetual motion. Like a hamster in a cage!?
#733 Jeremy on 07.04.08 at 9:14 pm
I would highly recommend Niko-Nikos if you like Greek food. They also have some American food. As you have probably noticed, they are always busy. You get a lot of food for a reasonable price. Don’t forget the Baklava.
I have to go back to that area tomorrow so I’ll give it another look to see if I find the store with the mural!!!!
86 years old. My goodness, Goalucard4hill… you are too cool.
#739 Dances
Salute! To the 56!
#612 That sounds great. Hope there is a floor vote. Go Hillary!
Thanks #743. Yep, everytime I go by there is a good crowd. I will add this, if you get on Alabama going East off of Montrose and take Alabama Eastbound, you won’t miss it. In fact, going in that direction, you will see it head on.
PUMA ALERT!
I’ve just learned that BO will be at a high school near me on Tuesday evening. I need any Atlanta area pumas to please join me so we can protest. Please identify yourselves if any are here. Then I’ll decide if I want to post my email again.
#691 Goalucard
Just read your post about list. Thanks. Send when you find.
#736 antifish – My bad – I keep forgetting – that must be why I never see any of my witty and wise statements on those sites – I tried……………must tell you that Fox is much better (wow – slap me) I even get an email answer from Greta Van what’s her name-
During our circus in Feb I volunteered to be an election judge – just got my letter from the city – I need to fill out a form & send back – have a dilemma however – little line that ask for Party Preference – Dem, Rep, Reform, Inde, No Party …next line says”new this year judges will be allowed to serve without preference, however, certain duties will still require two judges of different parties, so your selection of a party is important” – I am/was a dem for about 45+ years – don’t know if I should still put Dem or Inde – give me some advice……plz
740 halligan
don’t forget the big goats
Where is Firebelle? Having fun I bet.
Although I’m partial to a couple of the suggested slogans, I’m fine with whichever Fred / Murphy decide on.
By the way, you can always sketch or print a design or slogan, PUMA paws for instance, trace onto heavy paper (kraft paper, for example), cut it out to use as a syencil, and spray paint or fabric paint to create your own unique sign or customized shirt. Perfect for Denver. The more, the merrier.
#750 Susie
Just find another PUMA.
750 Susie1945
just put party animal
Pigs, chickens, big cats, goats. I know we had a whole list one night. We really got silly…… loved it.
#750 halligan – ???
#745 HALLIGAN
“#739 Dances: Salute! To the 56!”
Absolutely! Thanks for taking the time to read the piece.
pigs, chickens, big cats, goats, and now party animals.
Gooooooooo Anderson.
halligan,
This might not give you all the info you need, but it lists the delegates and superdelegates that have pledged support for “O” or Hillary. There are a couple from WA. state.
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html
Thank you one and all…
Just think of this primary in this way…. I trying to rush for a speedy outcome so that Mr O could have more time to catch up to McCain, Howard Dean has also given us MORE TIME to: a) defeat Oin August or, b) defeat him in November.
Now to backtrack and read some more of your posts.
744 maxgrader
he meant 886
#760 ontherocks
Thanks. I’ll check it out after my barbequed hotdog.
*755
party animal not a choice
but would be more fun
764 SusieT
What does your gut say to put down. Write that.
#750 Susie,
I would say I’m a Dem. Most of us are. We’re just in exile until we can change the current leadership and the stupid ROOLZ!
Have been on and off all day.
I read some people suggesting people not partake in the “Green Rain for McCain”. Then some said they did and thought it was a good idea.
I am back on and saw many posts that say they will be voting for McCain in November.
Just wanted to remind those people that there is still time to donate $5.44 to McCain’s official site.
I sends a powerful message to EVERYONE concerned that we are a force. If Hillary is in fact nominated, she can still beat McCain.
If not, we can help send obama back to Chicago for good.
obama_mural_in_houston_texas_documented_by_pr_mo
If anyone is interested. Muchado I found a link regarding the murial. It says it has been there since Feb. I just saw this yesterday, and by accident!
Goandersen
Hmmm…. so Is that where they got party animal from?
Donkey, Elephant, Puma ???
didn’t give the link..hang on
Found an interesting article about Joe Lieberman and his comments about BO …”Sen. Lieberman used his appearance to promote his fear-mongering, pro-war agenda and to attack Barack Obama.”
Once again a great example of how the media is biased towards anyone that speaks against the new ‘selected one’ in Washington.
http://stonecipher.typepad.com/the_stonecipher_report/2008/07/joe-lieberman-b.html
Thanks Sen. Lieberman for speaking the truth when so many others won’t.
#757 Susie
Just tell the elections committee that two PUMAs will work just fine for equalizing the representation. Of course, you could ask to go as “other”. But since PUMA is a 527, I would think you could be a recognized “other”. Does this make sense? I’m not kidding. Call an ask your elections board.
769 GoStarDust
I don’t know…. hmmmm.
we could wiki it.
LOL, CNN why don’t you post our comments????? You would rather post the comments of paid Obama bloggers!!! How can we trust you anymore CNN. You were the ‘most trusted name in news” Now you are a paid pawn for Obama!!!
——————————–
LMAO, I now have 3 comments ‘waiting in moderation’ at the bottom.
My slogan suggestion :
CHANGE…
AGAIN ??
FLIP FLOP MAN
… UP TO HERE…
WITH CHANGE
NO TO THE CHANGE GANG
CHUM CHANGE
This is fun but I think we haven’t quite found a gem yet.
boy the beaches and parks are crazy here in San Diego today.
Was unable to donate (had to get a tank of gas) but I did leave about 500 PUMA flyers around town today and I think I managed to convert about 6 NObama followers
I also had a run in with a very angry elderly woman who claimed I was a racist and probably a Republican. My answer to that?: “and you’re probably telling your friends you’re voting for obama but you’re secretly going to vote McCain.” she didn’t say anything…haha
#716 ladyhawkee
Let’s not allow this one to die. I believe this Patti Solis Doyle is a double agent, planted by the Nameless One and his manager.
greta
http://current.com/items/88848333_15_tall_obama_mural_in_houston_texas_documented_by_pr_mo
O.K. Not pushing this, but you can see the “cultist” thing behind all of his “troops.” Enough on this but gag!
Read on another article that some neighbors are complaining because they have to see this 24/7. HA!
775 fred
Diaper Change
since there seems to be some texas folks on now….does anyone know where to find the online survey about the caucus’?
776 clintonRules
LOL! I bet she wet her depends with that comment!
HALLIGAN – you are right – whats up with Washington – I will research further for you.
#721 GO STAR DUST RODHAM PUMA – I thought you sounded familiar – I remember your posts well as Tutite – glad we found each other again.
#744 Maxgrader – Thanks – bet I could even impress everyone with my text message skills as well –
Drac
halligan,
I found the names of some of the pledged delegates. It is hard to find them. I think that is why I keep looking. I hate it when I can’t the info I need.
This is web page ,close to the end it names some of the delegates for WA state.
http://www.politickerwa.com/bryanbissell/1439/mayor-nickels-elected-washington-state-delegate-obama
post # 771
I like Joe Lieberman. He gave a speech to some of the Veterans during a luncheon at my work. He is nice. People here in CT are not happy with him right now, becuase he is speaking out on a lot of issues.
#752 halligan
How much money did you win on that bet?
# 774 hillaryistheone
It seems like quite a few more kool -aide drinkers make in on CNN than the sane.
I guess we might have to start writing – Oh Obama you’re the one. We looooovvee You! (Yeah right, not in this life time)
http://www.correntewire.com/the_tx_caucuses_getting_things_on_the_record_with_questions_journalists_should_be_asking
Try this DawnE. It may have what you are looking for.
~J
woo hoo….my baby found it http://www.txdemocrats.org/page/s/primsurv
texas voters….please take a moment
I also think Patti Solis Doyle was a double agent. She blew through all of Hillary’s money like she had a printing press. Her and her husband have some financial entity to which Obama supporters are on the board. I posted about it one night, but I don’t remember the site I was on.
778 jeremy
guy is right. It is propaganda. Heil BoBo
anyone in down there have some spray paint?
DawnE-I will look it up again. I got the link from a news article.
thx Jeremy….the one I posted is the link to the actual survey
Just looked at the mural. Isn’t that what dictators do…plaster their pictures everywhere? Yikes
#778 Jeremy That is really creepy. It reminds me of Saddam Husein in Iraq and of that nut case who is dictator of North Korea. The Obamaites really creep me out and always have. I was so glad to find this blog because I felt really strange that my initial reaction to BO was creepiness when people around me were gaga. Now I have a place with like minded determined people.
777 gordana
how can we keep this one alive?
Bill Snyder of CNN said tonight that, according to Elizabeth Kubler Ross said we are stuck in the grieving phase. Ross stipulated 7 stages of death and dying:
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Acceptance
Ross was the nurse who wrote many books on death and dying and started the ue of touch therapy in hospice.
Synder said Hillary has moved on to acceptance but that we are stuck at stage 2. What an idiot.
Then he gave out some poll numbers… I was in another room so didn’t catch it all… but BHO is up by 5 points… But he said, us stage 2 folks number about 10% and another amount for McCain switch hitters and another % for those not sure… But I think I heard him say 33% not voting for BHO. Yippie!!!
Around March, April, May our numbers were 17-24%
We must be doing someZing right!
795 Cosmeta
Elisabeth Kublier Ross. Is she still alive??
Yeah, acceptance of the revolution. You got that right Billie.
Good evening, all. I want to share a site with you and would encourage you to visit and make comments. the site is: http://blogs.pineandlakes.com/node/98
My wife is the webmaster for these two weekly newspapers and they are affilliated with the only daily newspaper in this region of northern Minnesota. Their corporate headquarters is in Atlanta. My brother-in-law Colonel Buck Robely began a thread titled, “the top ten reasons Obama is not Presidential material”. Several people from Camille424 have posted but I am hoping for many more. If enough post it will put my wife in the position to do an article about PUMA in the various papers. I hope you feel it is worthwhile to assist. Thanks.
#778 Jeremy, found it by googling. On my! Not sure I want to see it in person. Wonder if I can add the word less after the word hope?
Firebelle
Zippo! But I think I should have really put down a “bet”
You’re probably the only one on the blog that knows what a halligan is?
Three cheers for who can find out what a halligan is before Firebelle – quick!
cosmeta,
That is good news. I really hope we can keep this up. For this place to be only 1 month old, we are doing great.
Everyone here is doing such a wonderful job at getting the word out.
Okay – I will select Dem as party preference – hard habit to break but I will wear my PUMA shirt if it ever gets here – we have our beauty contest on 9/13/08 – Dem convention is August & Repub is beginning of Sept- what a waste of time and money – don’t know why we have both the circus & the beauty contest – hope they get rid of caucus – lots of people were protesting & asking for its demise – will see – course there probably will never be another primary season like this one again…..
DawnE-Here is the link for the survey in case you can’t go to the meeting on July 7.
http://www.txdemocrats.org/page/s/primsurv
Hi, PUMAs,
I haven’t had a minute to read the comments on this blog for the past two days, so no doubt you all have heard this by now:
Obama is planning to relocate his “acceptance speech” to Invesco Field which holds close to 80,000 people rather than the original site which holds a mere 20,000.
Read the details here:
Mile-high Obama? Invesco Field may be venue
http://www.politicswest.com/democratic_national_convention/26547/mile_high_obama_invesco_field_may_be_venue
Keep your eyes on this, PUMAs. He has already moved DNC headquarters to Chicago. Now he wants to move part of the convention! What arrogance!
NYCgirl
#799 halligan
They don’t stand a chance. I had you pegged the first time I saw it.
#795 Cosmeta
I think we went through all the stages of grief and we’ve create a new one. Can anyone give it a name?
BHO numbers not bouncing much,
Go to
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/
Click on the dates under the picture of our two boys.
797 drbokin
the site won’t let me register……..
Goalucard4Hill
You know I couldn’t leave my friends. I’m still here, different name, same Obama disgust.
Firebelle
Ah shucks! It’s my son’s dog’s name. Now guess what my son does for a living
“NO, WE WON’T”
“DNC = KING GEORGE”
“FAIR REFLECTION”
“DNC: OBEY YOUR RULES”
“COUNT THE VOTES”
“DNC CHEATERS”
“DNC DICTATORS”
3 Cheers for firebelle. She knows what a halligan is. How about the rest of you?
797 drbodkin – site won’t let me register – says page not found……………………
Regarding #780 ,792, and 793
How do you think I felt yesterday when it loomed into my vision and driving at that?!? They have added the ” 0 ” oracle now. When I looked at the link I thought something was missing. I will be back in that area tomorrow and take some digital pics. Not that anyone wants any. Documentation for me. Also will check for any “altercations.”
halligan, how about “resolve?”
#811 halligan,
A special tool used by fire and rescue.
#803 NY girl
O’s new setting – to the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans, white with foam, God bless America – and we’ll need it
LOL #798, I will see when I check it out tomorrow.
*811 halligan – ckd out name – says is a tool used in fire department & named after guy in NYFD – right??
OK, we all know by now that Obama has lied about just about everything. And flip-flopped on several issues. We know all about how the DNC violated it’s own rules during the primary fiasco and divided the party, quite seriously.
We know the economy is tanking. We know that health care is substandard or non existent to 47 million americans.
We know there needs to be some kind of resolution to the middle east problem.
BUT—— if we have followed the history of Israel since 1949 we KNOW they mean what they say when they say they are going to do something. And they say, now, they want to attack Iran before the coming US election because they are doubtful that If, elected, Obama would be supportive. Bush will never get congressional approval for a strike on Iran but we will commit to aiding and defending our ally, Israel.
The only logical answer, a no-brainer, to all the above is for Hillary Clinton to get the Democratic nomination. This would buy us some time to find a solution to the Iranian question. If Hillary was to build on the policies of President Bill Clinton there is every chance to achieve resolution to the health and economic problems as well.
War with Iran could very well lead to the Third World War and the World economy is already precariously close to the brink of Destitution.
Obama is far too inexperienced to assume command at this time, and McCain, well, McCain is getting on in years and kind of out of touch with the realities facing us.
Folks, it’s time for us all to face the realities and step up to change the present course our Destiny appears to be rushing toward—total destitution and destruction of everything we know life to be.
Josgirl – beep, good try, like it, but not, thanks for playing
and for Antifish – two cheers, you were late. Firebelle got it first. Thanks for playing.
#811 – are you related – named after Hugh Halligan , a First Deputy Fire Chief in the New York City Fire Department , in 1948, based upon the well known Kelly tool .
Halligan,
We might do one better and challenge our fellow Pumas to think of how a halligan might be used to show our affection for Obama, Dean, Pelosi, and Brazile. That would keep Goandersen and some of the others entertained for hours.
Now you’re making me be naughty.
#802 texassherry
heh, I understood the 7th meeting was for invitees only to get the ball rolling….have to work anyway….but at least I finally got to fill out the survey….been looking for it since I saw Witchy1 post the other nite
#778
I live in Houston and this really is obnoxious. The interview says it best… “regardless of what the message is, the medium is the message” (could be translated, “I don’t believe in this guy but I like my artwork”)………..and “Other cities aren’t doing this. Other cities aren’t going out of their way to do this type of PROPOGANDA.”
#779 goandersen
lol i’m back by the way
Susie – right on, one cheer, you’re second in line. Thanks for playing.
Firebelle
Was it really a NYC guy that named it?
Convention Pretention
BO wants his own stadium for the Denver Convention. I guess it will be paid for out of his Presidential Campaign Funds that he flip-flopped for, instead being paid by the DNC that he is destroying. Did the DNC run out of money to pay for the whole convention? I guess donations are down.
#822 Firebelle
Keep it going, please! Chuckle, chuckle. I’m off to the fireworks. Night all!
#827 Headclunker
He must have ties with the owners of the new place
This is what wiki says -
A Halligan bar (also called a Halligan tool or simply Halligan , in Australia also a Hooligan tool ) is a special tool commonly used in the fire and rescue service . It was designed by and named after Hugh Halligan , a First Deputy Fire Chief in the New York City Fire Department , in 1948, based upon the well known Kelly tool . The Halligan is a multipurpose tool for prying , twisting, punching, or striking.
#828 halligan
You instigator.
825 Me Trish
you are the only one that got it!! LOL!
fits the big baby
803 NYCitygirl,
“Obama, who will become the first African American major party nominee, spoke in an interview with The Denver Post of a desire to include more people from the public at the convention. The interview took place before word of the venue change became known, but Obama spoke of his desire to reform how conventions are funded.
“One of the concerns we had from the beginning of this campaign is the tendency for special interests and lobbyists to dominate the political process,” Obama said. ”
You know what that means, don’t you? It means that Mr O will only allow his own people into the stadium; and LOBBYIST LIKE PUMAPAC 527 will be herded behind some fenced in area blocks away; where media won’t be!!!
#778 Jeremy,
That mural is so freaky. It reminds me of some third world dictator. Ugh! Obamabots are pathetic with their worship of him. What’s next? Will they create a “Mount Rushmore” type sculpture for him on some mountainside near Denver? Oh, let me not give them any ideas…
#823DawnE-I filled out the survey too. I read the article about the meeting a while back but I can’t remember what it said about attendance. You know how it is with us old bitter middle aged women with our memories. LOL
I think BO wants his own convention building because the PUMAs and Hillary followers will take up all the room and his “groupies” won’t have any place to stand…:^
833 Comseta
Like I said. They will all be eating day old cake the next day after bobo loses.
824 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 07.04.08 at 9:59 pm
I agree with you. I am going back to check out who owns the store, what it sells, etc….a little detective/lurking work..hehe. Going to see when the “oracle” part was added. I can this, the “love” does not trickle out far from this area in Houston. Trust me on that.
834 antifish
where is that mural of bumpy? texas?
Texassherry. got spray paint?
#835 TexasSherry
yes unfortunately I do….LOL I’m right there with you….and I live not too far south of you in Leander
anyone know what is coming of the state/area rosters?
Jeremy-I am glad that mural isn’t near me. I would be tempted to accidently splash paint all over it. LOL
#835 texassherry
I think it said 1st meeting by invite only, no PUMA’s allowed, all rabblerousers will be banned
I can TELL you this ~ revision
841 texassherry
some wet cow patties would do.
#836 DawnE
Stand or kneel?
Trish
I’m talking to myself here.
goanderson- I didn’t see your comment until after I posted mine. LOL
TexasSherry do you live by Humble?
847 texassherry
well, geterdun!
#846 goandersen
I love talking to myself, less arguements between me and me then
it will be standing room only….if any BO folks kneel, we might be tempted to stand on their backs so we can see better….
#805 halligan on 07.04.08 at 9:51 pm, WROTE,
[[ #795 Cosmeta
I think we went through all the stages of grief and we’ve create a new one. Can anyone give it a name?]]
try p*ssed
#848 TrishfromCanada-I have heard of Humble but don’t know where it is. I am 35 miles north of Waco.
839 goandersen on 07.04.08 at 10:06 pm 834 antifish
where is that mural of bumpy? texas?
goanderson, see#778 for the link. It tells about the whole disgusting thing.
I joined PUMAPAC at its inception but I’ve been lurking in the background just enjoying all your posts.
I have donated $20.08 to Hillary today, $5.44 to McCain, and $25.00 towards buses to Denver. Wish I was going with all of you but I can’t get time off work.
I admire all of you and just ask that if you could post how fast this organization is growing or just something that gives us some facts so that I can REALLY see we are making a difference against that fraud, I would really appreciate it.
For me there is no choice. I hope the SDs wake up before Denver and nominate Hillary and if not, my choice in November will be McCain.
Goanderson-I’ll let Jeremy get this one since he is closer.
#851 DawnE
lol the vision of that in my head is wonderfully funny and I’m hearing the song “Lean on me”
#852 cosmeta
New stage of grief … how about “Pumatic”?
I’m about 35 miles south of Whack-o
we’re off to watch the display ….see you all in the am…sweet puma purrs tonite alll
#855 texassherry
i only know its just outside of Houston
#820 halligan,
Oh, but I doth protest! I believe Firebelle told us she is a firefighter so of course she would know what it is.
That’s like asking me what a P-38 is. How many of you know? I’m talking Army, so don’t say an airplane.
853 texassherry on 07.04.08 at 10:11 pm #848 TrishfromCanada-I have heard of Humble but don’t know where it is. I am 35 miles north of Waco.
Not butting in…Humble is North of Houston along Interstate 45.
Goanderson-No cow patties in this neighborhood but lots of catfish. They could make a stink too after sitting in the hot sun for awhile.
854 jeremy
I know, I watched it, The guy on there even said it was propaganda.
Heil BoBo!
Just watched the local fireworks, now re-read Murphy’s intro…how fitting and inspirational
COSMETA
A poster at the confuence, ronkseattle, analyzed the recent poll numbers, specifially those who would not be voting, voting for other, voting for mcvote, and arrived at this conclusion:
“When a self-identified Democrat fails to vote, that takes 1 vote away from the Democrats’ net Margin (votes for the Democrat minus votes for the Republican).
When a self-identified Democrat votes for the Republican, that takes 2 votes away from the Democrats’ net margin (minus 1 for the D, plus one for the R).
And after all, net margin is how we decide who won.
Obama would have to find 19 million new votes, or convert 9.5 million McCain votes (or some combination thereof) to make up for this deficit.”
#797 DrBodkin – you were on HRC site under another name as I recall – great posts from you as well
PUMAS WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR – LETS ALL BLOG ON THAT SITE SO THAT WE CAN GET PICKED UP ON SEVERAL NEWSPAPERS.
862 texassherry
that mural isn’t still there is it?
If I was living there it would be.
#861 Jeremy
Cool, thank you.
859 TrishfromCanada on 07.04.08 at 10:13 pm #855 texassherry
i only know its just outside of Houston
Actually it could be considered a suburb of Houston–the North side.
866 drac
already did
TrishfromCanada-Jeremy says it is by Houston. That is about 150 miles from me. Texas is a big state.
Thank you Jeremy for the info. Feel free to butt in anytime.
#867 goanderson~ It was there yesterday. That was when I first saw it. Me and a friend were going to lunch and made the wrong exit, and bam…there it was.
don’t know if this happened to anyone else, but BHO and Bush have invaded my dreams…rather my nightmares…I wake up and am so scared, they are both so clear…I do not like this
REMINDER:
I hope everyone else has responded to drbodkin’s request. #797 drbodkin
Enough posts and his wife gets to write na article about PUMA. Easy reach-out.
I do not think PUMA should protest in the stadium. I think we should protest outside.
#824 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 07.04.08 at 9:59 pm
Your in Houston too? That makes three of us. You, Jeremy and me?
goanderson-I’m too slow to keep up with the posts. you lost me on that last one.
#873 Lily Maid,
Hang garlic all over your bedroom and sleep with a cross. Oh, and cover all your mirrors.
Whatever happened to the Unity Tour? Were there any other shows besides the one a week ago?
872 jeremy
well get rid of it.
877 texassherry
which one?
#875 Headclunker,
I think we should put in a contract with the DNC to sing the National Anthem before BO takes the stage. We’ll call ourselves The Choral Pumas. Then we’ll sing the Puma National Anthem instead of the real one.
Bamo #878 antifish—LOL!
And make sure the cross is gold. That gives it stealth.
#797 DrBodkin
Let the webmaven know that the login and register pages are disabled.
# 875 Headclunker
I would feel better and safer outside. Some of the “O” fans are very scary.
873 antifish…lol, but really, it has happened twice now, I see them speaking and I am in the very last row
Went to the mural link…made me think of North Korea
I know that I’ve asked this before but I’m just curious if anyone else has noticed this.
Last weekend though some London sources Bill Clinton supposely said that Obama could “kiss his ass”.
On Monday through some Obama sources there was supposely a phone call between Obama and Bill. The phone call supposely brought the two of them together.
Yet I have noticed that we have not seen Bill actually say this directly through any type of media. I have a feeling that Bill will do some type of campaigning.
Yet its been a week and we all know that for this type of announcement from Bill the media would be at his beck and call in two seconds.
Does anyone else find it strange, or is it just me?
#872 Jeremy
Did you lose your appetite?????
879 HeadClunker
I thought they were going to be in Northern VA soon
#880 goanderson~ checking it out tomorrow. I am already getting ideas…I said ideas…that is a broad term…ideas…yes, ideas…
#881 Goanderson-Never mind. I think Jeremy answered it. I thought I saw my name on it but I guess now these middle aged bitter woman’s eyes are going bad too. LOL
890 jeremy
keep it on the hush.
#890 Jeremy
Ideas for CHANGE???
#887 k in Northwest
“Yet its been a week and we all know that for this type of announcement from Bill the media would be at his beck and call in two seconds.”
I think Bill is waiting until the DP has an official nominee.
#888 Muchado~it didn’t help. When I saw it I yelled “good grief, do you see that piece of crap?” My friend said yeah I sure did and did you know you just ran the light?” Glad it was not one of those intersections were it is enforced by photos. Been there done that!
Cosmeta
Are you in Canada?
as a result of one of the growl missions, I am getting BO mail…wish I had followed advice and gotten a temp email address…I thought I had put a stop to the mail…they are so impervious, they thank me for feedback and respect my right to voice a different opinion, then ask for money
#886 Lily Maid,
It’s probably just all the turmoil that’s going on making you have bad dreams. When you lay down at night, try picturing Hillary taking the oath of office this coming January. You should have better dreams.
Exactly! The mural is just like those of Kim Jong Il and his father, Kim Il Sung, that are all over North Korea.
#892~I don’t brag and I don’t bray. Who knows were I will be on the 5th of July?
OMG will it ever stop?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/04/obama.europe/index.html
CNN) — When Barack Obama comes to London, I am certain that 50,000 people will turn out to cheer him on,” a British executive assured me when I visited the British capital recently.
Barack Obama’s White House bid has stoked more interest among Europeans than that of his Republican rival
Barack Obama’s White House bid has stoked more interest among Europeans than that of his Republican rival
“Americans?” I asked.
“No, not Americans,” he responded. “English people. You see, we want change, too.”
Spend a few days in western Europe talking about American politics and you discover that you are in deepest Obamaland. Not much different from Berkeley, California, or the South Side of Chicago.
As a woman put it to me in Paris: “We want America back.”
“Why does that mean Obama?” I asked her. Her response: “We think he’s the black Kennedy.”
What’s driving Obama frenzy in Europe? Is it ideology? The educated, well-informed Europeans I met were not entirely sure what Obama stood for. “Is he a socialist?” they asked. “I don’t think he would accept that label,” I told them.
#895 LOL! I would have done the same thing I’m sure but I would have probably wrecked my car!!!!!
899 jeremy
the hardware store?
#893 Mischievous LOL muchado!
Change is aaa..mmm..uuhhh..ya know…heyyy…yeah..change…that’s it.
900 notfollowing
cnn. more propaganda.
#902 goanderson
You witty little puma you!!!!!
#778 Jeremy – Mural
Definately creepy. And sad, that people so badly need something to believe in that they give their devotion to a grafter from Chicago.
905 muchAdoAboutSomething
I would be.
Change is something you don’t see at the gas pumps anymore
#902 goanderson-Too bad we aren’t rich. I would hire someone to paint Hillary to cover him. LOL
#908 LOL. You guys are too funny tonight. I’m going to have to stop reading!!!!
interesting website…
interesting articles…
***********
Lie #50 Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque: His campaign had to retract that statement
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/lie-50-obama-claimed-he-never-prayed-in.html
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Wednesday, April 2, 2008
Indonesians report Obama was more active as a Muslim than he admits.
The Indonesian Newspaper Banjarmasin Post sheds light on Obama’s early years. This report suggests that Obama has not accurately reported his early religious education. It also raises several legal questions relating to the fact that he was an Indonesian citizen, and whether he now needs to renounce his dual nationality. Clarification from Team Obama would be helpful
In summary the article states
1) Obama was active in the prayer room
2) Barry was at one time quite a religious Muslim
3) All his father’s relatives were religious Muslims
4) Barry was registered as a Muslim and an Indonesian citizen at his school in 1968
5) Obama has now moved onto be a Christian
Here’s a machine generated translation of the article, with the original directly below:
On Sunday, on July 09 2006 02:31
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Read more…
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/04/indonesian-papers-report-on-obamas.html
909 texassherry
someone needs to get up there and block out his body and paint a post under him.
900 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 07.04.08 at 10:30 pm
CNN is no news, even web based. I turned them off in January and only went to their website to follow primary returns. Journalist now are hungry to get money with a report. My gosh, if I went to that place with the mural and told them I was a reporter and….I bet I could sell the info and take my dream trip to Tahiti.
#912 goandersen
lol is it prime time yet so I can untape my fingers?
#912 goanderson
Didn’t I read there were 3 pumas in that area? Sounds like a plan to me.
#443 madazzhel
I just thought of something. How about a picture of
PUMA claws cutting DNC in half?
Happy Independence Day!
OK, so who can tell me what a McLeod is??
In your face, NARAL & Emily’s List. Obama and yet another flip-flop – or ignorance. Either one speaks volumes.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/7/3/20917/25581
His flip-flops are also not going unnoticed across the pond. It’s about time.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4264994.ece
Someone the other day asked about a YouTube Video about when BHO said he was too inexperienced to run for President. But will this article do?
If it does, go to http://www.youtube.com and do a search for Obama, Tim Russert.
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Sunday, May 4, 2008
Demonstrable lie #20: Obama confirms three times he will not run for President
Here is more recent evidence of Obama being on the record stating that he would not run for President…the earlier link I provided was to his comments during his 2004 Senate Campaign. Here’s the transcript from January 22 2006 on Meet the Press with Tim Russert. The three denials come in the last paragraph.
TIM
RUSSERT: Our issues this Sunday: This United States senator has just returned from a fact-finding mission to Iraq and the Middle East and has now become the Democrats’ point man for lobbying reform. With us: an exclusive interview with Illinois’ junior Senator Barack Obama.
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Read more…
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-confirms-he-will-not-run-for.html
#915 texassherry
What do you want to bet that the trolls are scurrying at this very minute to make sure there is a guard there all night!!!!!
914 TrishfromCanada
Snap to it!
#917 a brand of garden tool that is a combination of a rake and a hoe. Also called McLeod’ tool”.
Or it is a mixed drink made with the combination of a rake and a hoe.
The boston fireworks are on tv, the band is playing “American Soldier” That song makes me cry
920 MuchAdoAboutSomething
Easily paid off.
#920 Muchado~I am going to call a friend now that lives closer. The way it looked in the video that it stays lit at night…surveillance cameras, etc. That is another reason why I am going one of those educational tours later….mmmm
#920 Muchadoaboutsomething
That would be too funny. LOL
925 Jeremy
If there is a will, there is a way. (this is how I say it)
922 jeremy
who’s a hoe?
I’m going to refer to the Obamabots as cyborgs from now on
#917 MountainSong~ and believe it or not, that was the last name of one of my teachers when I was in the 4th grade. I could never spell it right or pronounce it right. I kept calling her “Miss MacLeocloud.”
929 TrishfromCanada
I kind of like diaper rash myself
#928 goandersen
lol
“These things always take time to heal,” said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst. “I think Clinton’s supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them.”
Where the hell do these men get off??
928 goandersen on 07.04.08 at 10:49 pm
See question posed by #917 MountainSong. Was going to directly answer you question, but I don’t want to get into real trouble…lol!
#931 goandersen
fits with their smear campaign
“I think Clinton’s supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them.”
I’m not! I am waiting for her to be the rightful candidate and not a European Fling from a one take side story bought up by CNN…thank you Mr. Bill squeel Schneider!
935 TrishfromCanada
Fits with “Diaper Change” bobo needs one, all those cyborgs running around in there!!
Time for another time out…those unintellectual at CNN…shame on them. uuuggg!
#919 Cosmeta do you remember the OJ trial ? Johnny Cochran put up this white board and it was titled Van Etter’s big lie’s ( Van Etter was one of the detectives) You should make one of those with Nobama’s big lie’s and number them I think that would be interesting. Maybe we Puma’s could contribute the lie’s we know.
Goanderson: I emailed Cynthia about the calling the swing states and never received a response.
PUMAS!!
Check out the new P.U.M.A. PAC poster generously provided to us by Puma Fred!
Take a look at the Action Center Image Gallery at:
http://pumapacusa.org/images/images-1.html
940 pa dem
Oh, you will. They are still in the planning stages. She will get back to you. Fear not!
It’s me again. Please visit this site and post.
http://blogs.pineandlakes.com/node/98
My wife is the webmaster for these two papers and they are affiliated with this regions only daily paper. I am trying to put her in a position to convince her editor to do an article on PUMA and justsaynodeal. That shouldn’t be too difficult as they pretty much let her do what she wants since she has a journalism degree and is a good writer. By the way she is Jewish and not too fond of *61.
Anderson has already posted an incredibly powerfull message and diamondtiger has as well. Let’s keep this going.
Weren’t our founding father’s brilliant? BHO has pretensions to such brilliance, but he uses grand triteness, and achieves rock star status. I am ashamed that he aspires to stand in their shoes.
Murphy’s choice of quotes reflects today’s celebration of our break from England. Some Pumas left the democratic party and are doing repairs from the outside, while others stayed and are doing interior repairs. Termite minions have infested the house. Some think a new house is needed, as did Partick Henry and Thomas Jefferson. Our once grand house is worth restoration efforts…unless the “evils that are sufferable” become insufferable. Then do we follow the advice of our founders? I do not have their wisdom. I do not know.
They keep saying McCain and bush are different sides of the same coin.
It is more like bobo and bush are different sides of the same coin.
must have been a typo
#945 goanderson…I think you are right, both BHO and Bush are in my nightmares, but oddly BHO speaks first, then Bush
And another thing – regarding the ‘faith-based’ idea. It’s bad enough the man keeps stealing other people’s ideas but to steal them from Bush?
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/07/and-another-thing.html
946 Lilymaid
are you psychic?? Are you having premonitions?
PAHILL08
Great poster. We need to compliment him when he is online again.
That mural of the Nameless One reminds me of the one’s I used to see of Che Guevera in the late 50′s and ’60′s.
SSSSCCCCCAAAAARRRRRYYYYY!!
GROWL POWER!
greta
PAHILL08
I meant we need to compliment her on the poster not him. The name Fred makes me forget.
#943
Tried to register so that I could list a reason and it wouldn’t let me register. I’ll try again later.
952 MuchAdoAbout
I had problems too.
I clicked on the top left at ‘login/register’, that took me to the sign up.
I hear Big Loud Noises outside!
951 texassherry
just think of ethyl
#944 LilyMaid…to answer your question about breaking away and establishing a new house…remember you are a PUMA, re-read PUMA PAC Goals…PUMAs are commited to bringing back the true , honorable Democratic Party!
#819…please
McCain is not out of touch and he is only 71 years old.
My dad is quick as a rabbit and dating again. Travels far and wide and he is 82 and in great health.
I despise sexism and hate ageism just as much.
McCain is a fine, respected senator.
Yes, my first choice was Hillary. McCain is my second choice.
I am surprised to read your words in your post.
#955 goandersen
lol
It would be nice sometime (maybe after the convention) if we could take a poll here and see what different age groups and gender that the pumas are made up of.
Also if BO gets the nomination it would be nice to see how many of us will vote McCain, stay home, or vote 3rd party just to see how strong we are against BO in November.
#786 Jeremy
Great posting!
#787 DawnE
Also, excellent posting!
Showing off your PUMA growling!
941 PA4HILL08 on 07.04.08 at 10:59 pm PUMAS!!
Check out the new P.U.M.A. PAC poster generously provided to us by Puma Fred!
Take a look at the Action Center Image Gallery at:
http://pumapacusa.org/images/images-1.html
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Wow – great poster Fred.
ok LilyMaid, whatever you’re drinking it must be good, you’re answering your own posts
Are the tee shirts out yet. I have not received mine yet.
955 goanderson
That would make me think of Lucy and then I would forget why I was thinking about her. LOL
#794 goandersen
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but my server was down.
I’m not sure how to go about keeping this alive, besides prodding the MSM’s, who may have some interest in exposing it. If it was true, it would be a Federal Crime to tamper with the election process (I think).
greta
sorry guys, I wrote #944, then submitted it…then realized I knew the answer…thus answered myself #956
Check out the new P.U.M.A. PAC poster generously provided to us by Puma Fred!
Take a look at the Action Center Image Gallery at:
http://pumapacusa.org/images/images-1.html
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Wow – great poster Fred.
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Awesome, Fred. 8 by 10s or 11 by 14 with adhesive backing. Powerful statements of the truth near busy intersections, convenience stores, and murals. Ideas…ideas…
965 gordana
I wish we had some really good investigative journalists here.
Arrggghh!!!! Rant, Rant, Grumble, Grumble, Complain, Complain!!! Arrggghh!!!!
CNN Political Ticker#$%@@## (Didn’t post me!!!!)
If anyone is wondering I’m a bit upset here.
Very well I’ll just go off and cause miscief elsewhere
964 texassherry
LMAO!
free association
I just sent this to the DNC, in response to yet another request for money…
How does it feel to be thrown under the bus DNC? No, not by your candidate, by the actual Democrats…
I bet you’d love a seat ON the PUMA bus instead of UNDER it. We’re a noble breed, unlike you, we don’t attack our own…we band together and protect one another.
There may be room for you DNC…but before we can decide whether or not you’re worthy of being seated in such a fine vehicle of truth, justice, equality, freedom, and TRUE Democracy…you’ll have to pay a small fee:
-Give US back OUR nomination. You clearly don’t know what to do with it, your candidate is clumsy, we fear he’ll break it. Better let Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton hold on to it for you, she’ll know what to do.
-You know, it’s really not nice to call people names: racist, bitter, menopasual…we’re willing to overlook these failed attempts at unifying the party…but you’ll have to get down on your knees and plead that we forget those OTHER names…you know, the ones Senator Clinton was called. That kind of language is uncalled for and it doesn’t make anyone want to be your friend…and UNITY is all about respecting one another, the way friends do.
-If you really insist on keeping OUR nomination, at least show us that it’s going to be well cared for. Let us see your candidate’s ORIGINAL birth certificate. That really isn’t too much to ask, is it? After all, he MUST be eligable, right? Yeah, we believe you, but we’d still like to see it.
-Playing by the rules is very important, it shows others that you respect the game enough to do the right thing. You seem to be having difficulty with this one…you’ve broken rules and yet you won’t admit that you’ve done anything wrong. Donna B. claims her mother taught her to play by the rules, but you’re not. Her mother sounds like a very respectable woman, she probably also taught Donna the value of words. We all remember what Donna said, if the Super Delegates decided this election she’d resign. One would assume she meant she would resign if the Super Delegates decided the election EITHER WAY, but it seems as though she meant she would only resign if the Super Delegates chose Senator Clinton…so maybe she did stand by her promise. Her candidate must have been the Super Delegate’s favorite…even though she claims to have been uncommitted…but we know Uncommitted means nothing, since you gave votes from Uncommitted to your candidate.
-Be sure to pack plenty of sunscreen for us, we’ll be seeing you in Denver.
And as for hitching a ride on the PUMA express…NO DEAL!
Did I read it right earlier in the post that the Chosen One wants his own building or arena at the Convention?
What’s next – is he going to paraglide in, circle over the crowd and land on the stage!
Hey does anyone know if it is possible to get one of those planes to fly around with a banner for PUMA?
967 jeremy
nice work fred
#943 DrBodkin
Please tell your wife, the webmaven, that the login and register functions aren’t working.
Trish…high on grand words of our forefounders, and the commitment and smartness of PUMAs…I am always in awe of the work and research being done…for no pay…work being done to reveal truth, to correct what is wrong, to make sure what was fought for is not lost. Our cause is making heroes, real life heroes.
974 DancesWithPumas
I had trouble too.
Click on ‘login/register’ at the top left of page. I will take you to the sign up page.
#968~goanderson
I don’t know if there are any here, right now, but there are plenty en masse. The problem is that MSM and CNN, et. al. are offering bug bucks for a “buy-line.” Perfect example is the story from the CNN UK division regarding “the oracle” upthread. A lot of hush money does a lot of writing and talking, whether the author believes it themselves or not. Sad but the facts are obvious.
#943
Done!
phantom joel: If I remember correctly, Murphy said they should be out next week, that there was difficulty with her receiving the shipment.
#972 1of18MilforHill08
Nice idea. But air traffic control will restrict the air space above the convention center and related activities.
Repost from drbrodkin:
It’s me again. Please visit this site and post.
http://blogs.pineandlakes.com/node/98
My wife is the webmaster for these two papers and they are affiliated with this regions only daily paper. I am trying to put her in a position to convince her editor to do an article on PUMA and justsaynodeal. That shouldn’t be too difficult as they pretty much let her do what she wants since she has a journalism degree and is a good writer. By the way she is Jewish and not too fond of *61.
Anderson has already posted an incredibly powerfull message and diamondtiger has as well. Let’s keep this going.
**click on ‘login/register’ at the top left of page. It will take you to the signup page.
#980 Firebelle Puma
Yeah I forgot about that.
#975 LilyMaid
I was joking with you, I really hope you didn’t take offence to it Earlier tonight I sent a few e-mails and then realized for some odd reason I’d typed my own e-mail in the To: box I think that’s why your post amused me, I realized I wasn’tt he only one answering myself
973 goanderson
I am looking for wallpaper. Fred does nice work.
977 Jeremy
I still it’s a crock. It is more propaganda for the US, not the UK. They can’t vote here.
977 jeremy
I know it just fuels the fire for the bobo kids. This is the media giant we are up against. Big Corp money machine.
#983…TrishfromCanada…I absolutely appreciated your comment!!!!! I was acknowledging your obsevation…just giving credit to the correct intoxicant!!!!!! All those bursting firworks and Murphy’s selection of quotes have me flushed with feelings of hope…and grandiose verbage…see, it continues. Trish…you are one of the best PUMAs, and am flattered you noticed me.
Exactly my point 985 goanderson~what part of Paris was this interview taken? Who was the news outlet from the UK via CNN. I know it is upthread but it has been picked (propaganda for the US) and they “paid off talkers” could care less. The thing that makes it all so un crediable is when they were asked “what makes him so popular” the answer was “is he a socialist?” Even they are being fed/offered up the kool aid. I am on the same page with ya!
drbodkin – I posted – susiepuma
add two more to the tally- the girlfriend and i just donated 20.08 a piece!!
Am happy to be visiting the nation’s capitol with my family on this 4th of July holiday.
Yesterday I toured the Russell Senate building and stopped by Hillary’s office. Her staff was friendly and gracious. I was impressed by them all. A great group, most definitely.
This morning, I watched the parade up Constitution Avenue, and thought to myself, “I can’t wait until we hail Hillary during her Inaugural Day parade.” I want to see a thousand marching bands out there for her come January. That will be yet another fine day in DC, indeed. One of the best ever.
So keep the faith, Pumas. Keep that Inauguration Day vision in your head. That day will come! Polls are showing what we already know to be true — that we are not backing down, that we continue to hold steady for Hillary — a wise and true leader, desperately needed by this country at this time in our history.
drbodkin
I posted
988 jeremy
He is like a creeping disease, sorta of like Andromeda
Short (?) list of 3rd-party spokespeople (mostly celebs) from a clintondems post, below.
I guess we just store this in a file somewhere until
a) PUMA gets more notariety
b) Obama crumbles or
c) it’s a couple weeks before the convention.
‘Twould be good to at least try & do a nice massive PUMA outreach effort (web, emails, whatever), to get any of these people to speak up and out for Hillary, and America’s future:
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/americas-and-hillarys-birthdays/
James Carville*
Joe & Valerie Wilson* (Plamegate)
Celebs:
Jack Nickelson
Ellen
Donald Trump (is he really a Democrat..?)
Cramer (Mad Money, whatever that is)
Eva (who is this)
Quincy Jones
Joe Scarborough
Kevin Spacey
Ted Dansen & Mary Stenburger
Barbara Streisand
* I like these 3 best for starters. Others??
991 firechief
Wow. I wish I could go to Hillary’s office and see where she works and get the ambience of it all.
She will be our next President. She is being led by a higher power. I know she is. And we are all part of it.
Rise Hillary Rise
#987 LilyMaid
It’s true about the inspiration and knowledge on this blog, and it definitely is a great pickmeup and high to be invloved with so many wonderfully talented people here.
May I ask which part of the Us you are from, I am always curious where everyone lives. My geography sucks almost as bad as my math, this way I learn the map better lol.
I think I could be BO’s accountant, he’d either be broke or rich, but I’d tell a good story about it at the end of the day lol.
Thank you for the compliment, it makes me stop and think and well I’ll just say thank you because there are s many here who add so much more than I ever could, ok ok i better stop compliments are hard for me to accept and I’m fumbling here, let’s get back to making fun of people, i’m much better at that!
#660 hillaryhead: responding to Rebecca on salon.com isn’t worth the dust on a Puma’s paw! ;D
T-shirts or bumperstickers:
The PUMA image (speaking symbolically here) is a strong image. I like the idea of a logo that depicts the entire animal, not just the head or the paw.
Also, “I am PUMA, hear me roar ‘Hillary, 2008!’ ” seems like a logical caption.
Hillstheone
I tried Martha Stewart but never got an answer. A lot of these people have switched to BO and I think some are afraid to endorse anyone since Oprah’s rating went down.
Just because we may come to “accept” that S. Obama is the DNC selection (last stage of grief as defined by Dr Ross-she wasn’t a nurse by the way she was a physician-I am a nurse and proud of that but we might as well be accurate) does not mean that we have to be happy with it nor does it mean that we can’t fight it if we believe in our heart of hearts that this is not right and just-yes we are grieving but our grief goes way beyond Senator Clinton not being the DNC nominee for president-our grief has more to do with the machinations of the Democratic Party-the party we thought was “our” party and stood for values that we hold dear-apparently not –we have an imposter that is the presumptive nominee and my grief has to do with my deep disappointment in a party that left me
Just checked out the poster, I think its very good, but I’d like to suggest a black and white version for those who will be printing their own, with so much colour it will devour the printer ink very fast.
#73 DawnE – just read your post – next week there is going to be a hearing about Texas Caucus – of course the one in charge is a big BO supporter – but you have a definite complaint – these caucus fiasco’s have to end – they do not make any sense – and that has to be one of the reforms of the Democratic Party -
Send your comment to Norma Flores – you can type her name into Google and see if she can help you – a Hillary supporter and Puma supporter….its the only way your voice can ever be heard is to get rid of this caucus mess.
997 hillstheone
LOL! “isn’t worth the dust on a Puma’s paw”
I think so as well. There are a lot of Puma pics on line, we could get an image from there and alter it a bit.
Firechief and all Pumas: yes, & keep visualizing Hillary being sworn in w/her hand on the bible. It is a powerful image and comes to mind very easily!
Picture it in your mind every morning when you wake up.
#993 goandersen
i loved that show Andromeda, hey the theme song fits perfectly for Hillary, Faith of the Heart
#993 Barbra Streisan drank the kool aide – switched over.
Hey PUMAs! Just made my contribution to help pay down Hillary’s debt! Here’s the receipt
Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 11:55 PM EDT
Contact: (Name omitted for privacy’s sake)
Phoenix, AZ 85021
Amount: $20.08
Just in the nick of time too.
#1002 goandersen
LOL A PUMA cub giving the one finger salute
#1005 Goalucard4Hill
Excelent, she can sing the cyborgs to sleep at night and they’ll never wake again
For now, I think the main thing is showing these high-profile HRC supporters her “base” is still alive & thriving…who knows but they may be in a high profile situation in the weeks ahead & be put on the spot.
All of Obama’s fumbles – plus learning about groups like ours – will encourage them to speakout more boldly.
I’m going to look for contact info for James Carville and the Wilson’s this weekend & will post everything I find.l
If anyone wants to look into any of the other folks listed above, they are welcome to go for it!
OK, I’m going to call it a night. As Murphy would say “Be wonderful to each other”.
Muchadoaboutsomething
Have a good sleep. Good Night.
#983 Trishfrom Canada…The capitol Of Pennsylvania is Harrisburg and I don’t live far from it. And, your nationality is showing…”colour” instead of color. I bet our USA forefathers used “colour” too.
Our choice of President affects the world (we cause pre-emptive wars), and I think it is great that you give us the international input!!!
1004 TrishfromC
shoot it over to N. Lee, she can make another video
For all you late-nighters! Declaration Day II has been released for those who are going out to tape the Declaration tomorrow. Helpful tips and an a chance to offer your opinion on the future of the document.
Oops! Declaration Day II Sorry!
goandersen: yes, it was an honor to visit Hillary’s office. I was in awe of it, thinking of all the truly important work she does in that space. And then I thought of the ping-pong table her staff snuck in there as a prank, for her to see when she returned to work — and I had to laugh! (the table is gone, by the way!) Nice to know her people have a great sense of humor.
My son is here for a summer course nearby, and it’s been nice having some time to tour DC. I just *had* to make the pilgrimage to her office, even though she wasn’t in town. Her staff was really cool. I told them I was a state delegate, longtime supporter, and just wanted to give her my best wishes. She has a guestbook that all visitors sign, and you can leave brief comments in it, as well.
Yah, that Hillary, she is truly amazing. Brilliant. Wise. Compassionate. Head and shoulders above all the rest of them.
Exactly what our nation and the world needs right now. It just has to be!!
Keep the faith.
“YES WE WILL.”
This is an awesome idea. For some reason, maybe instinctively, the 3 you picked probably are aware of PUMAs. Just my take. With your permission, I am revising a last name on the list. And regarding Donald Trump. One of the last times I watched Larry King Live on CNN, the Trump was on. He had nothing but obvious glowing and positives regarding Hillary. Larry King kept pressing him on Rudy G. (at the time he was still in this) Donald Trump did not say anything negative and responded to King’s answers, BUT, he always followed it with a BUT Hillary Clinton is one fine person and candidate. Not the exact words, but dang close.
994 hillstheone on 07.04.08 at 11:51 pm Short (?) list of 3rd-party spokespeople (mostly celebs) from a clintondems post, below.
‘Twould be good to at least try & do a nice massive PUMA outreach effort (web, emails, whatever), to get any of these people to speak up and out for Hillary, and America’s future:
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/americas-and-hillarys-birthdays/
James Carville*
Joe & Valerie Wilson* (Plamegate)
Celebs:
Jack Nickelson
Ellen
Donald Trump (is he really a Democrat..?) See above.
Cramer (Mad Money, whatever that is)
Eva (who is this)
Quincy Jones
Joe Scarborough
Kevin Spacey
Ted Dansen & Mary Steenburgen
Barbara Streisand
* I like these 3 best for starters. Others??
Later Muchado
#1012 LilyMaid
I’ve been to PA! Went to england a few years ago and stopped in Phili for 10 hours on my way over and Pittsburg on my way back for 10 hours. Finally got some sleep in the airport. LOl I kinda ran out of money while I was there, didn’t realize it would be so expensive, so I spent the last 3 nights there sleeping on the street, was quite an amazing experience, I’d do it again in a flash!
So I was in Pa but only in the airports. good thing cause I can get lost in an elevator!
We may not be able to get an “endorsement” by those celebrities, but some of them may give us airtime to show our point of view (such as Ellen).
Another 1000 posts! Excellent! PUMAs I will be back later. We’re going to watch National Treasure to celebrate the 4th.
Happy Independence Day to everyone and I will see you later!
Pa dem
I think that Ellen would be our best bet. I know that both antifish and goanderson would love to be on her show and with their personalities they would really have fun with Ellen while still getting the word out. I can just picture them playing the rubberband game.
#1012 LilyMaid
you are very correct. The US has to stay the world leader. Otherwise it gets too scary with thoughts of the balance of power shifting to 1. a country that can’t handle such power and 2. a country that would misuse that power.
The US are pros at it, this is partly why this election is so important to me. The other two reasons are Hillary was shafted and I despise such behaviour and also NAFTA.
1020 pa dem
I would be careful with Ellen, she airs on NBC. It could be a conflict of interest for her.
InuHanyou
Good night and have fun tonight.
#1022 texassherry
LOL I want to see Antifish and GoAndersen dance with Ellen, that would make my year!
#650 Crystalpuma
You can tell by this video that the crowd he spoke to was extremely small:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGwHMDFQImw&feature=user
Not only was the crowd small… but the FOX newsreport you posted states the following:
“All the fireworks and stuff are not just for her,” he said to laughs.
When I watch this video of his speech… it seems that Obama is the only one really laughing at his own joke… which I didn’t think was funny but rather more evidence of his self-centeredness and obviously teaching that same trait to his children.
#1026 trishfromcanada
I think we should start a petition to get them to go. LOL
forget dancing, my dream is to sing on ellen!
Eva Longoria. I have a list of other supporters as well saved on my computer. Buses to Denver. You have the East Coast covered….what about Kansas and the Midwest. I can’t afford gas, food and lodging. Can you stop and pick up people on the way? What about lodging? It must be tight in Denver!
List of Hillary Endorsers:
Ricky Martin, Madonna, Elizabeth Taylor, Kelly Pavlik (middle wieght boxer from OH), Brittany Mason (Miss Indiana), Wilma Mankiller (former Cherokee Nation Principal Chief, OK), America Ferrara (Ugly Betty), Erica Alexander, Jehmu Greene, Melanie Griffith, Peterson Zah (Former First Navaho Chairman and First President of the Navaho Nation, Northern Cheyenne Tribe President (forget his name), Rob Reiner, Sean Astin Billie Jean King, LaMafia and The Bolanos Brothers.
1026 TrishfromCanada
Mine too.
True 1020 pa dem. However, I would like to get Nicholson’s, Danson’s & Steenburgen’s and Trump’s off the record take with this. The Wilson’s interview in on record at TaylorMarsh’s podcast archives if anyone is interested. Outside of Streisand, curious of the others in the list that have openly switched their backing. Really have not followed these guys recently.
#1027 Mzebest
I don’t think his visit made the impact that he was hoping for.
1029 queen81
At the very least she could showcase puma talent!
#972 one of 18 million… not only does he want his own bldg. now I heard he wants to do it outside the building so he can have fireworks and more people…so much for change..let’s spend all the money on trickery and flash..because nothing else is there.
994 hillstheone on 07.04.08 at 11:51 pm Short (?) list of 3rd-party spokespeople (mostly celebs) from a clintondems post, below.
I listed more 3rd party endorsees at navyvet48 # 1030
#1019 Trish, you put me to shame, here you are helping in our PUMA cause, and I know so little about Canada. I understand Europe is Obama mad. Unlike them, you are politically perceptive and unresponsive to hypnosis, thus you make a grand representative for your country! Maybe all that good Canadian air is an antidote for Kool Aid poison (so very, very sorry to cast aspersions on the Kool Aid brand…giving Kool Aid a bad name). And you are funny too.
goanderson-
I could always wear puma gear when i perform
#1033 texassherry
I agree. And from reading posts in today’s blogs from PUMAs that were there today… sounds like the crowd was extremely unfriendly to this fraud of a candidate. I was not impressed with the video clip I posted (showing his speech)… but then again… I’m prejudiced in that I’ve NEVER been impressed with his speeches. I always tell my friend, “You can always tell when Obama is lying… when his mouth is open.”
I just donated $10 to help a PUMA go to Denver. Whee!!!
#1030 navyvet48 – Please email marylandpuma@gmail.com with your questions about the Denver trip. She asked me to give her email to anyone at night that had questions.
1027 mzebest
What a load!
Did mo wear plaid and that do just for the occasion?
I guess she wanted to ‘fit in’ What a crock of stale turtle turds. sorry murphy
I don’t think it was Kool Aid that Jim Jones used, but some type of grape flavored drink. My kids drank Kool Aid. I think it was the money backers who added the hallucinogenic powder to the water provided to the people panting after every word (and pause) of BHO.
Oh, and the MSM refilled the bottles.
1039 mzebest
Where are the ‘groves’ of people he had following him around?
I guess they can’t afford to bus them all in any more.
Ha Ha
#1039 Mzbest
I think the only one impressed with Obama is Obama. I think his over confidence is what is going to take him down.
go anderson-
i actually do have a song about sexism that would be fantastic to do on her show. it’s very tounge in cheek and might get her attention
1047 queen81
mail her and send a tape. She loves off beat stuff.
Call to Action at Alegre’s! http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=158
Just spent the last hour debating a koolaid sipper. Nicest thing I was called was idiot. Lol.
Anyway always a pleasure to read everyones posts. Lifts my spirits.:)
To Lilymaid #873 . If your having trouble sleeping try this. Review the day backwards from the time you got into bed till when you woke up. Just look at everything that happened and let it go. No judging. That will clear your mind. Then focus on something uplifting, gently as you go to sleep.
Tibetan yoga technique. Hope it helps.
Hope everyone had a nice fourth.
Keep feeding the pumas.:)
#1028 texassherry
lol I love making fun of Ellen dancing, but she’s cool, she has such an incredible smile
#1045 goandersen
LOL — in regards to his large crowds… that was all a sham too. Do you remember right before the Oregon primary how the press reported that he attracted crowds like a rock star? Well — what the press didn’t report was that he had actually hired a popular Portland rock star band (called the Decemberist) to play on a beautiful spring day to a crowd of people before he came out. Everyone came to see the rock group.
#1046 texassherry
Again — I agree… and I think his hubris has already been his downfall. I still love to quote the analogy I heard Juan Williams on FOX state about Obama, “His campaign is dripping in corruption and he’s going down faster than a 4-year old on a water slide in the middle of summer.”
#1017 Jeremy
Don’t forget Ugly Betty, I bet she’d do something, she made an appearance with Chelsea.
Hi everyone i have been in here for awhile ,reading and writing. I also posted a comment in the newspaper. I love Freds Posters . What a awesome job
#1051 Trishfromcanada
I really didn’t think I would like her show because I wasn’t a big fan of her weekly comedy but now I watch her every day. She has a big heart, and is so accepting to others even when they aren’t accepting of her. She had all 3 candidates on her show and she was respectful to all of them. She joked with McCain and said “I guess this means you won’t be walking me down the isle” when they were discussing gay marriage. It was obvious that she was a Hillary supporter but she gave all 3 equal respect and equal time to address their issues.
Yes, her dancing is hilarious but I like the games from Japan that she is playing the best.
I also like it that she finds people on the internet with talent and helps them to start their career.
What about Fran Dresher she is very close to Hillary???
#1045 goandersen
A follow up on the large crowds reported at past events for Obama… it’s easy to get crowds if you offer a free concert. And did you know the band he hired to attract the crowd and endorse him has communistic roots?
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977350600&nav=Namespace9:45 PM 7/4/2008
Fran is CEO of the womens cancer Hospital in NY
#1052Mzebest
Lets cross our fingers and hope that he falls before the convention so that our lady Hillary can rise again.
Oops… I think the link above included a time stamp… try this one
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977350600&nav=Namespace
Has Obama have any good ties??? I don’t think so.
1057 mzebest
no way. communist roots?
Has anyone sent this tidbit to the Oregon press?
#1052 mzebest
That’s true, but the media never mention the fact that the rock band was there and it was free.
And *61 was feeling The Messiah
#1037 LilyMaid
The province I’m from had american soldiers stationed throughout it during WWII, there were housing and military bases set up. Many Newfoundland women married the american soldiers. It was only about 15 years ago that the bases closed down. I believe one is still operational. American history was a huge part of our schooling. I guess that’s why your history interests Canadians
Good night everyone
#1059 texassherry
I think PUMA and JustSayNoDeal coalition are making great advances. I’m so impressed and proud to be a part of this group and it fills me with immense hope that I still am part of a voice that will be heard. I think we will succeed in our goal to keep Obama out.
#1050 snowtiger I will do just that! Going backwards is different because when we “replay” our day, we start at the beginning. Going backwards gives a different perspective…and may be hard to do and require diligent focus. And, I think that letting go may be the most theraputic part. Tibetan yoga. THANK YOU!
#1065 sandipuma
Did you get my e-mail?
Hey all, just got back from July 4th celebrations, lots of good news!
I talked with my former math teacher at a concert. She is a loyal democrat who has never voted for a republican. She told me she did not understand how Hillary could have over 300,000 more votes and not get the nomination. She went on to say that she was voting for McCain and so were her friends, even the ones that voted for BO in the primary were having deep regrets. I told her about PUMA and she said she would check it out.
Then my neighbor down the street took down his Obama sign in his yard today. My mother started talking to him and BO came up. The guy said that BO had lied about so much that he could no longer trust him.
Good Day….Good Day
Then there are the new polls showing more people than expected wont vote for Obama, BO getting endorsed by the Communist party, and the chastising report by the NYT.
It certainly was a happy 4th
Good thing i am not a new member. If you people want to see us grow you are going to have to be more polite when someone comes in and says hello and talks.You never know if they are new or not. Just keep that in mind.
#1055 texassherry
Ellen has a good heart, more people should be like her.
I hannes and Colmes (FOX) they mention this incident about the crowd that went to see *61, but they were laughing when mentioned the fact that people showed up there because of the rock band
1057 mzebest
it still worked.
I want to know how close we are to retiring HRC’s debt.
How can we find out?
matt,
Good evening. That is an awesome report! I’m so glad people are finally starting to see the light!
Sandipuma
Good night and sweet dreams.
Hi matt good to see you.. We have had fireworks going on here for allmost a hour. You know how Vegas is. I can hear them
#1063 ElyLos Angeles
Yeah… when I first found out… I was so furious. I found out from a blog report on AOL. It made me so mad that at that point in the primaries… they would report that Obama attracted crowds like a rock star. I would scream at the TV, “Yeah… that’s easy to do when you actually have a rock star concert provided for free to young people.” Then the MSM would say that Clinton seems to be alone… or her crowds were always “small” — I was soooo mad over this.
#1073 goandersen,
We can break into her campaign office and take a look at the books. You up for it?
1069 matt
good news indeed!
Keep up the good work PUMAS
Thankyou texas but i was trying to make a point here. Everyone needs to see if someone is new and whether they are or not at least aknowledge them.
1078 antifish
reminds me of the old days when we broke into GCSC in LA to peek at the docs they were hiding from us.
LOL!
Mzbeth and Trishfromcanada
I agree with both of your posts. Sorry I am slow and have a hard time keeping up.
Sandipuma
Who did we not say hello to?. I am slow but have been trying to talk to everyone that wasn’t talking to
someone else.
when did you send it Trish???
#1070 sandipuma,
That’s a good point. We need to be more vigilant about acknowledging people who post here. A lot of new people are being ignored. We don’t want them to feel unwanted and leave. Adopt a puma, people.
1078 anti
I’m in.
I was talking to everyone when i came in and gave my 2 cents and said hello but no one paid attention so i wanted to share with all you the importance of this in case it would have been a new person.Making a point lol
Matt
Good job. It sounds like you have been a busy puma today.
My apologies if I’ve neglected acknowledgement. To all PUMAs — old and new to the group — I’m thankful you are here.
Personally, I also want to apologize in advance since many times I read the posts but don’t always comment on them due to the overwhelming task of keeping up with all the posts. But I love every single one.
1083 sandipuma
How ya doing tonight? How was your 4th?
anti, goanderson-
again, are you guys trying to max out my credit cards on bail money!?
Sent all the emails for Alegre’s call to action!! Encluded both the Declaration of Objections and “A day in the life of Joe Republican”
#1081 goandersen,
OK, that’s too much information. I don’t want to know about your past criminal activities. And don’t ask about mine! LOL!
I have felt pretty welcome here, thats the reason I keep coming back.
Always proud to be a PUMA.
I think its becoming popular NOT to be a BO supporter.
1086 sandipuma
true. it is hard to keep up with all the posts.
Sandipuma
Sorry I didn’t say hello to you. I knew you weren’t new but would have said hello if I would have seen that nobody was talking to you. This is the first time I have tried to keep up and it is hard because I am slow.
lol texas my computer is slow i have Netzero and it’s dial up
#1090 queen,
Hey, we’ll wash dishes to pay you back.
#1086 sandipuma
I always read your posts too and again — I might not always reply cause I’m trying to catch up and read all the posts… but I love reading your posts along with many others who are regulars.
#1078 antifish
cooking the books?
#1064 Trishfrom Canada…I truly had no idea that we had bases there, but if asked…and I thought about it, it makes sense. Still, it emphasizes how lacking I am in world understanding.
That is what is needed in our President. It is want I felt Hillary possesed. What does BHO know? He spent 144 work days in the Senate before he declared. Everything he did was so brief, and seems so intentional…for the purpose of bolstering up his resume. This I do not know, but I believe he joined a Christian church because that background was essential for a presidential bid.
I had said Fran Dresher would do anything for Hillary as they are very close. Fran is also founder of the Womens Cancer Hospital in NY
# 1077 mzebest
I hated to watch FOX before the elections, but since then is the only channel I watch. Specially Hannes and Colmes an Greta on wire.
They had so much fun showing the minister video. They really dislike “empty suit”.
By the way, America Ferrrara (ugly Betty ) was campaigning for Hillary in many states included, California, Nevada and Texas an I don’t remember which more.
Sandipuma
I wish I could say it was my computer that was slow but alas it is me. My typing sucks so by the time I get my post typed I am way behind.
Fran Dresher had gone on the Larry King show on Hillary’s behalf
#640 GOSUEF4HIL on 07.04.08 at 7:44 pm
#632 goanderson-
thanks for the post, it makes the best sense to focus on the swing states. He is going to win blue states no matter what, McCain will most likely win the traditionally red states.
We need action in the swing states.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (karats mine)
This is my thinking exactly, we PUMA should concentrate our efforts on the everyday people in the swing states. The people in the middle, the ones like us.
I will repost this on tomorrow threads too.
New catch-phrase:
It’s the SWING STATES, Stupid!
antifish-
fair enough considering we just got new countertops and sink and can’t figure out how to hook the pipes back up…so we have no sink and dishwasher right now…i’m such an untalented lesbian when it comes to plumbing!
#1093 matt,
Do you really think it’s becoming unpopular to support Obama? Oh, please let it be so! That, coming from someone who just graduated from high school, makes me feel so much hope.
don’t feel bad texas i get slower every week i swear lol
1090 queen81
deadgirlrise
Sounds like you have a good action item. I will look at it again tomorrow. Thank you for all your good work.
#1102 ElyLos Angeles
I was late to jump into the FOX wagon. During the primaries I was watching CNN and getting so frustrated at the obvious bias against Clinton. Finally, a friend told me that I’m watching the wrong channel and switch to FOX. I made the switch late — but I’m a devoted FOX watcher now. I wish I had switched sooner.
#1106 queen,
Damn, I wish I was closer. I’d fix it for you. I’m such a handywoman lesbian. I do all my own plumbing, electricity and home improvement!
1105 deadgirlsrise
yeah, post Cynthia’s mail too. cruccia@ymail.com
Now if i was 18 like matt i would give everyone a run for their money lol. matt is with it and i think for so young knows a lot about politics
Mzebest-
I’ll go you one better, I actually listen to rush limbaugh on the radio now!
#1102 ElyLos Angeles
As a side note… I agree with you… Greta and Hannity have become my favorites.
1106 queen81
I am really good with plumbing.
Does anyone know who would let us know how much was donated for Hillarys debt yesterday and today?
Murphy, do you know?
wow antifish is there nothing you can’t do. Thats awesome
1112 anti
Get out! So do I!!
1120 anti
we could be biz partners!
1112-antifish
fortunately we have a butcher woman then us on the way tomorrow, so hopefully it will be handled..(i hang my head in shame…take my card away)
#1099 Trish,
What a wonderful idea! We’ll break in to Hill’s campaign office and cook the books to read that she raised 320 million dollars today! Won’t BO be jealous?
#1115 queen81
LOL! Not sure I’m ready to make that leap yet. Rush reminds me too much of my ex-husband. And he’s an EX husband for a reason.
Sorry, I misspeled the name, and I am in darkness with my compu, because is so hot in LA.
#1112 antifish…huh? you have a son who steals your paper.
Ely Los Andelous thats all i watch too. I only ever watch fox
#1120 goandersen,
Are you sure you aren’t one of us?
Sandipuma
I agree. Matt seems to be a bright young man. I wish there were a lot more of them but from what I see here it is discouraging. My son is 33 and I can’t even get him to vote. He is registered but won’t take the time off work.
ELECTION 2008
Communist band opens for Obama
‘How many of 75,000 came to hear music?’
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=65510
This link has a picture of Obama with the group!!
Interesting!!!
antifish…sorry to get personal
1124 mzebest-
not a fan of his, jut nice to hear him tell it like it is about BO
LOL sorry Angeles gees i’m losing it
Trish i will go check for your e-mail
#1100 LilyMaid
When I was in Uni one summer I worked in the archaeology lab and there was an old burial site found so the police brought garbage bags of bones to the lab for identification. I spent my summer reconstructing the bones for identfication, sex, height, approx weight and cause of death (my prof who was my boss for the summer had to return to Ohio for a family emergency so I was on my own). There were 21 male skeletons in the bags, completely messed up. They were an american military unit stationed at St. John’s Harbour in Newfoundland, just 3 minutes from where I was living at the time that the bones were discovered.
So, I identified the age and sex, boxed each skeleton individually, and gave them back to the police. So many years from the time they were killed, I am told there was a german U-boat that got through the harbour (it’s a hidden harbour) and took out the fort where this Unit was stationed.
As sad as that is, the skeletons were identifed by the police based on description and military files. Then they were sent back to the US to relatives for a proper burial.
It was an amazing opportunity for me, and it brought WWII into a completely different light for me.
But you know, if Canada did not have such a close realtionship with the US, those soldiers skeletons would still be sitting in a box waiting for paperwork to be completed.
There are going to be more Swing states this election, so I think many of us will see action. Of course the big states need lots of attention:
OH, FL, PA, MI
FL looks pretty solid for McCain, OH, MI lean McCain and PA leans BO
Then some moderate sized states:
VA, WI, MN, CO, MO
VA & CO are tossups, MN & WI are leaning BO & MO is pretty strong for McCain
Smaller states:
NV, OR, NM, NH, IA
OR & NM are too close to call, NV & NH lean McCain & IA leans BO
These are some other important states where recent polls show it getting close:
MA, CT, NJ, NY
These are traditional blue states although new polls show McCain leading in MA, tied in CT, within 2 pts in NJ and within 5 pts in NY.
NJ & MA would be good states to contest as they have lots of EVs and are surprisingly close. (Polls have been pretty close there for quite some time)
Mary Beth 613
There is no word yet about Hillary’s debt but I have been reading that it will be made public when it is paid. Hopefully soon. I know we would all like to know.
#1126 Lily Maid,
LOL! Lesbians have children too!
1128 anti
you have to ask? Of course I sing in the Choir!
#1135 TrishfromCanada
How cool. Good for you.
Jeremy and other Houstonians, sorry to disappear on you but we had a little emergency. Our new puppy was missing. Turns out she was just hiding under furniture because she’s scared of fireworks.
Done for the night here. Be back tomorrow I’m sure.
Trishfromcanada
That is so interesting. I love reading your posts. I hope you don’t mind me eavesdropping. Everyone I have met from Canada is so nice. I hope I will have a chance to visit someday.
#1135 TrishfromCanada…I am in awe of your contribution…Thank you. No grandiose verbiage…just a simple Thank You.
#1129 texassherry on 07.05.08 at 1:15 am
Awww….thanks texassherry…thats really nice.
I try to be a construtive and responsible youth and that involves knowing the person your voting for, speeches don’t mean much, action does. I can trust Hillary, I’ve seen her in action, shes genuine, sincere and real, where BO just talks
Ok antifish i need a plumber and i;m not allowed to touch the faucets anymore since last time i tried I forgot to turn off the water underneath first
lol
wow that was too funny, we flooded the place and the landlord was not impressed. although he did tell his wife, Holy! they have more tools than home hardware.
And awww he loved my dog so he didn’t charge me for the damage or repairs.
Goodnight notfollowingthepiedpiper
1138 antifish
No……..way. I can’t believe it. LOL Just kidding
#1135 Trish,
Wow, what an amazing story! Thank you for helping repatriate those soldiers!
1136 matt2008A
I hear that because of the desappoinment of the people , California may be a red state. Which means they will vote for McCain.
In my particular case I had’t change party but I am not voting, unless Hillary is in the ballot
#1138 antifish…and they drive trucks, are in the military, and get annoyed with fish emblems…or rather, the road rage shown by the people who sport the fish…all describe you
notfollowingthe piedpiper
Good night. sweet dreams.
Trish…thank you for helping to bring our boys home.
#1130 hillaryistheone
good link. I wish I could find the link from an AOL blogger.. the guy reported on how it was the band and the beautiful weather that attracted the crowd (not Obama)… and then all those young voters went home to vote for Obama because the Decemberists told them to.
#1142 texassherry
It’s never eavesdropping when it’s typed out here. And yeah, it was very cool, I am very fortunate to had so many different experiences in my life and I guess that’s another reason i’m here, to help make sure that opportunity is out there for everyone, regardless or who you are. I see Hillary making sure that is possible. I see Bo making sure his lot in life is taken care of and tossing a small bone to anyone outside his ring of family and friends.
#1152 DeepSouth
Hey! i never thought of it like that before, thank you!
#1145 Trish,
You are too funny!
1138: A very well kept secret though.
At least until the L word.
I would LOVE to see antifish and queen81 dancing and singing on Ellen wearing PUMA gear. Just tell me what to put in the “story request” line.
Okay I am lost again. You guys are too fast for me so I am just going to say that I agree with all of you and I am going to start over. LOL
Good night , I am going to get my third shower of the day . See you tomorrow
#1132 queen81
I totally understand. I’m finding that the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I continually am amazed that I now find many Republicans who I never would listen to in my past are now making more sense to me than people who represent the Democratic party.
1141 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 07.05.08 at 1:20 am
Now you can sleep in peace. Just happened to log back on when you posted. Glad you found her. My dog, Max, has just been having the best time howling in with the fireworks. All 4 feet of him…tall
#1139 goandersen,
I knew there had to be a reason why I love you!
night Ely
ElyLos Angeles
Good night and sweet dreams. Sorry I didn’t get to chat with you. I am slow and have a hard time keeping up. Maybe next time.
#1150 Lily Maid,
Yes, I’m so stereotypical!
1162 antifish
feeling is mutual darlin!
Supports / Opposes in the same sentence!
Help me out here. This guy Barack is freaking me out.
My only guess is 1) Civil Unions and Domestic Partnerships have less rights than those accorded “marriage”; or, 2) he supports civil unions / dps as long as it isn’t a part of a religious sacrament?
“I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states,” wrote Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.
But his campaign said that Mr. Obama’s opposition to the initiative, which will appear on the state’s November ballot, did not signal a change in position. He remains opposed to same-sex marriage, but supports civil unions and domestic partnerships.”
Huh?
#1142 texassherry
Ohhh wanted to add, not everyone up her eis nice, there are some I want to b*tchslap on a daily basis but sadly laws prevent it!
1162 antifish
hope it’s not the only one……
Hello night crew,
A comment on the Butte appearance by Obama.
Butte must be a very small town. I don’t believe there were over fifty people at that rally (although stacking the “crowd” did improve appearances). My impression of the speech was that that BO just want to make it short and sweet and get the hell out of there. Does the Obama campaign serious think they can win Montana?
Antifish
What am I missing here? All I had a chance to read is that Lesbians have children and now you are telling goanderson that you love her. I think I need to go back to lurking because I can’t keep up when I have to stop and type.
Goodnight PUMAs, see you tomorrow!
Have a great day
1168 TrishfromCanada
LMAO!
#1159 Ely,
Why so many showers? Did you go to a BO concert?
1172 matt2008A
Night matt
remember to visualize HRC in the Oval Office!
Trishfromcanada
There are bad apples in every batch but I still think that the majoriy of Canadians are good just like the majoriy of Americans.
1174 anti
LOL!
#1171 texassherry
lol that was funny!
Matt
Good night. It has been a pleasure chatting with you.
#1174 antifish
If he did a shower will never get him clean
#1170 emca
His hubris is enough to make him believe he impressed everyone in Montana for merely making a controlled appearance. Tomorrow the gallup poll site will be posting an update. I hope it reflects a huge dip in popularity. That would be a great July 4th gift.
You can oppose discrimination being written into the state constitution without being “for” same sex marriage. Many republicans have taken that stance.
And YES, there are far fewer rights accorded to civil unions and domestic partnerships–such as moving across state lines and having a partner who is from another country. If the rights were equal, the courts would be leaving things the way they were.
#1169 goandersen,
Of course not. Just means my gaydar is working properly!
Wasn’t sure lately.
#1158 texassherry…I feel like I am the only one who feels slow and everyone is way beyond me…nice to know someone else feels the same…but we try
1171 texassherry
LOL!
We are just recognizing one another.
#1171 texassherry,
Scroll down three more posts. I’m proposing to goandersen!
1183 antifish
mine is older than yours.
Goodnight matt!
Good night all. Happy July 4th. As always — reading the daily posts made my day. Everyone here is awesome.
antifish and goanderson
You are both so funny. I haven’t had time to read your posts tonight and have just been catching little bits. LOL
Max is giving me a big clue to shut it down. Hope your pyrotechical displays were the best. Later night cats.
Puma love?
#1186 antifish
good lord, we talk about Ellen and everyone comes out!
One of my coworkers keeps tellng me she takes her gaydar downtown with her, now i get it!
#1016 firechief Did you happen to see any yellow flowers around? Just checkin’
#1069 Matt I enjoyed reading your stories. I sure hope the tide is turning….
#1182 pa dem
Thanks. My guess would be that their are financial benefits that domestic partnerships and civil unions would be excluded from too.
Mzbest
Good night. It was a pleasure chatting with you.
1186 anti
are you messing with texassherry?
What proposal??
Night mzebest
sweet puma dreams!!
#1161 Jeremy,
That’s funny! My dogs were very frightened by the fireworks but, earlier this evening, I was playing a Garth Brooks CD and my dog, Frodo, started howling with it. It was the cutest thing I’ve seen him do in a long time.
1193 Trish
LOL!
goanderson is a lady? are you?
Lilymaid
You are definitely not the only one. I think tomorrow I will lurk for most of the day and take a break so I can catch up on the posts.
1191 jeremy
Night, sleep well
1176 TexasSherry
Just like my eBay customers….Canadians and Australians are the best!!
It’s the media only showing the bad apples of the world that make us all second guess each other.
I belonged to a political forum years ago and had a conversation with a guy from France. He told me that the French people were behind America and against their government. I was shocked to find that out. Since then I have written the media off. They had the French hating us.
Also…I meant a guy from Brazile online. He kept putting off telling me where he was from. Finally he told me and I said “Cool”. Come to find out his government had convinced the people that America hated Brazilians. He was afraid to tell me where he was from!!!
It would be amazing to see how people really are without the governments and media throwing propoganda.
goandersen,
Did you read Sherry’s post? #1171. I was playing with her because she said she couldn’t keep up with us.
1201 Lilymaid
yes I am
Heavens, the people who complain that we get off message will have a field day with us…lol…shame on me…I think Murhpy laughs every morning…how serious can we be these wee hours?
I stopped reading the Comrade Obama-loving rag, the New York Times, a while back … but I was happy to read this bit:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/a_lightbulb_goes_off_over_the.html
Happy 232nd USA!
1205 antifish
oh.
How did we get on this subject?
Can we move to something else now?
#1195 DancesWithPumas
Up here they made changes to the laws for same sex civil unions and marriages. nsurance companies will now cover same sex spouse, retirement pensions are transferrable and insurance companies allow a same sex partner to be covered. It’s quite progressive in that sense. It really does suprise me that the US is so far behind Canada on this as well as legaized same sex marriage. normally we are a decade or so behind you on changes to legal matters.
anti and goandersen, I’ve been rolling on the floor the last 100 posts as I catch up after work. Everybody’s silly tonight and I love it!
I think some Puma’s had too much to drink this July 4th.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s post.
Thanks Trish i downloaded it but i can’t find it lol duh thats a blonde for ya
1210 TrishfromCanada
It is mind boggling. We seem to be sliding backwards with every new administration.
mzebest,
Yes, I hope the polls do a nosedive and Howie has to approach Hillary on his knees and beg her to come back.
Goodnight mzebest!
#1207 LilyMaid
LOL my thoughts exactly
#1206 goanderson…perhaps not a compliment, but you write like a man
I drank a gallon of water it was 110 here today
Deep South
Hello. I am an Ebay seller too but I recently stopped selling internationally because of Ebay’s new rules. I do miss my good international customers but the new rules have been attracting to many scammers and costing me money.
Watching the Boston Pops …Josh Groban is singing..
Hope everyones day was reflective, joyous, and we are filled with renewed passion to get back our Party, and make things right in this land of the free once again.
See you all tomorrow, love being here!!!
1211 gostrumcat: LOL!
1212 fred It’s a holiday. Tomorrow is a new day and a different subject
Don’t worry Trish. I find that most of us are becoming centrists leaning one side or the other. We are evolving politically and rather quickly…thank God.
I foresee “change” but in the real sense…not Fantasy like the Bots.
#1213 sandipuma
Can you check your my documents please?
Fred i loved your posters they are just awesome.
Good night, Jeremy!
good night marybeth
Ok Trish brb
1221 Mary Beth
Happy 4th
Good Night, see you tomorrow!
#1210 TrishFromCanada
“Up here they made changes to the laws for same sex civil unions and marriages. nsurance companies will now cover same sex spouse, retirement pensions are transferrable and insurance companies allow a same sex partner to be covered. It’s quite progressive in that sense.”
Yes, Canada is progressive in that sense.
I’ve had friends go to Canada just to get married. They returned to the US, but went to Canada because they wanted to have a respectful ceremony.
antifish-
did i read your earlier post correctly that BO was going to be near atlanta this week?
Fred
Everyone complimented your poster today. It was great. We actually were all pretty serious earlier but think we are all tired now.
MAXGRADER Hey, I did send a message off to Murphy but I knew you were good for the money! Wasn’t sure if you were raising me $5 or $20 so I just donated $25. You are a good person and maybe a good poker player…?
I had to run off to a block party earlier tonite. WA is one of the few places that still allows the big fireworks so every year all the neighbors get together and we have and they set off fireworks. Still going on… Hope you had a great Independence Day!
diva2
What does “you write like a man” mean exactly?
1218 Lilymaid
I am not sure what that means, or what to say to that. You got me there.
TexasSherry…..I stopped selling internationally too after the new rules, but I had already had a huge group of regulars and my faves were the Canadians and Aussies.
I also find that when someone from another country bothers to take the time to email me about any item….they are good people.
When that happens I add them to my “bypass list” so they can bypass my US ONLY rule and bid anyway. So far I haven’t been disappointed!
1234 DancesWithPumas
I was not offended.
hmmmm i don’t see it. What would it be called.
#1211 gostrumcat,
I’m glad you’re being entertained. LOL. We really should change the subject though!
1212 fred
Hey, that is a great poster! Nice work.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/the_friends_of_barack_obama_3.html
With a lovely YouTube video
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/forgery_revealed_in_kos_public.html
Another article on the lovely birth certificate issue.
#1235 goanderson
“#1218 Lilymaid
I am not sure what that means, or what to say to that. You got me there.”
And I was sitting here waiting for your response, but it seems you are as confused as I am.
I will look in the mirror and see if my head is on my shoulders
hello all …..i dont post here much but just wanted to let you guys ( antifish and goanderson) know you are hilarious and keep the humor …we need it in here sometimes!!!
#1212 Fred
PUMA’s need time to come together after the days events, to bond, share, laugh and listen. It is one more thing that will make us a stronger unit. I know you feel we should be more serious than we are right now, but that does not mean we work less or without the same energy during the day. It simply means those who choose to, come together at night and drop our worries at the door, grab a virtual seat and mingle. I do believe it is what separates us from the cyborgs.
#1221 Goodnight Mary Beth!
1239 antifish
I think peeps have had enough of it for now.
#1217 TrishfromCanada…When I read the criticism, I want to explain why our connections have merit, and I think I could do a good job doing it, but they have valid points, and I really respect their opinion. We lost aantifish and goanderson for over a day, and sandipuma for part of a day…and Knoxville Puma forever, apparently. I miss him…he signed some posts Brian (if I recall correctly).
1230 antifish
….but stay tuned.
Fred…I’m primarily a lurker, but I saw your poster and LOVE it. I can appreciate the time and effort you went through to get it just right. I love the angles, the colors and the positioning of the text.
GOOD JOB!
#1181 mzebest//
Well, if he thought his performance in Butte impressed the people of Montana or the greater populaces of this county, the man is not only incompetent but a fool.
Just a guess, I have the feeling his campaign will shortly abandon the Western states strategy. Another one bites the dust.
Also on the polls, I wouldn’t expect too much from them, but watch the differences in spread when independent candidates are added to the mix.
Fred do you live in Las Vegas???
Deepsouth
I didn’t know that there was a bypass. I will have to look for that. Most of the problems I had were because of the increased postage. Other than that I haven’t had problems. I too liked dealing with the Aussies, and also the British, Japanese, and Germans.
hey 007 and welcome this evening!
1234 DancesWithPumas
I was not offended.
I wasn’t questioning whether or not you were offended… I was more interested in the specific reasons… what that actually means, what the difference is between the way men and women write.
#1231 queen,
Yes, he will be at a high school about 8 miles from here Tuesday night. I’m trying to find someone to go protest with me. I don’t think it’s safe to go by myself.
#1230 DancesWithPumas
I understand once they return to the US the marriage is not valid, is this correct?
1242 Dances
I don’t want to go there, that’s all.
#1245 TrishfromCanada…while I was typing, you did an excellent job defending our connecting on a personal level…and here I said I could do a good job.
so many intelligent people in here. And i’m senile
1256 antifish
hmmm tentatively, I should be able to take the drive and assist you with that.
#1248 LilyMaid
I thought Brian was on vacation til tomorrow?
#1242 Dances, goandersen,
I too am perplexed.
#1252 sandi puma
Fred lives in San Diego… she’e mentioned it in here several times so I don’t feel I’m violating her privacy.
1262 Trish
He is on vacation.
We are all still here and having fun in our late nite howling session.
007girl
Welcome and feel free to join in at any time. I am mostly just a lurker and do the daily work silently, but have been on for a good part of the day. It is nice to get to know everyone.
hi 007 girl nice to see you
TexasSherry….I don’t know if you have selling manager pro, but if you go to help and type in….”Block or pre-approve bidders” the link will come up. From there you can block buyers/bidders you know are horrible or who have cheated you and you can approve bidders that you like, but don’t meet your pre-set up criteria like PayPal only or US Only.
I just added a great customer from China.
007girl
Welcome to the Pac(k)!
Where are you from?
#1244 007girl,
Thank you. I don’t think everyone here appreciates out humor though! Join in more! We’re Pumas, but we don’t bite (our own).
Thank you queen I appreciate it!!
#1257 TrishInCanada
Correct. Their marriage isn’t recognized in the US.
1260 sandipuma
senile? I don’t think so, you are just as silly as the rest of us late at night! LOL!
You can’t fool us with the senile stuff!
Thank you go and anti… i am from southern california
Thanks for the poster compliments. Actually my other half did most of it – i just put in my hairy arm… but it was a lot of fun – our own version – images of Hitler, Black panther seal etc..bad language. It would be so satisfying to put such a poster out – but we must be nice. But hey, this poster is being printed in large qty, I hope it gets used up somehow. Will announce when it is ready.
We would like to design another one, targeted towards the older generation folks – got to make them see why they can’t vote the chum change man despite Hillary’s call to Unity.
Suggestions always welcome but Murphy wants to keep it civil.
We can use all the input you have. We are not working very hard tonight but boy do we ever during the day and with it being a holiday and all.
#1238 sandipuma
Can you download it again and save it to your desktop, hich file are you downloading, the toolbar or the antivirus?
1244 007girl
I missed your post way up there! Join in, there is room for all…. make a new thread if you want
the antivirous
#1251 emca,
I think you’re right. The western strategy was just a farce he was using to to bamboozle the powers that be. Fits right in there with he can win Georgia. Yeah, right!
ok i will be back i need to do that right now thanks Trish.
1263 anti/dances
I’m not. I know exactly what it means. Leave it.
#1260 sandi puma
I used to have a photographic memory until I ran out of film.
anyone from southern California here?
1274 007girl
I used to live down there. I like SoCa better than NoCA.
#1261 queen,
How far away are you from the Atlanta area?
#1242 DancesWithPumas…for me it is very subjective, picking up on nuances…I read many, many compositions for my short term college English teaching position…I do not know if there is a science that is objective to distinguish gender writing differences. From all my readings, I do know that there are so many writings that I could not make a guess. It is just that sometimes I pick up on nuances. No disrespect is intended.
Deepsouth
Thanks for the info. I will check it tomorrow.
Emca
Hello. I haven’t seen you before so Welcome if you are new and if not then hello.
Its OK. No harm knowing where we are.. just nobody hack my week old new computer.
We’re in San Diego but have business the week of the convention in Vegas.. Will have financial setback if I skip out but so hard to sit out my first political passion and Denver at that! I have visions of being handcuffed for causing trouble but wouldn’t that be a hoot ?!
007girl
I’m in San Diego.
After the election goanderson and I are going negotiate trading places.
#1260 sandipuma,
You are NOT senile. Stop it! You are a magnificently talented Puma and a wonderful asset to this group. Do not ever sell yourself short!
1263 Dances
LOL! good one
1286 antifish
little over 2 hours
oops 1283 Dances
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/04/clinton.poll/?iref=mpstoryview
YAY!!
#1284 007girl//
I used the live in SoCA, now I live in NoCa. I prefer the North.
Dances with Puma – I kept meaning to tell you we’re in San Diego. I knew you asked sometime back.
#1285 lilymaid
Oh, I knew you weren;t being disrespectful, you said as much in you original comment. I was interested in knowing what led you to that assessment.
I’m wondering if it is more difficult to make thagt kind determination, ignoring stereotypes for a moment, in this kind of venue, where communications often get truncated.
thank you texassherry for the welcome!!!
1287 Lilymaid
no offense taken. I have always skewed the curve in every area of my life.
I can chose to take offense or not to people’s comments.
I find that trying to interpret the true meaning of comments is difficult without voice inflection and facial expression.
Can you remember yours when you made the comment?
antifish and sandipuma,
We are NOT senile. We are bitter old menopausal women!! Remember? That is what the Obamobots tell us everyday. LOL Humbug!!! Look at what we have accomplished in such a short time. We are all doing our part and we need everyone. We all have our own talents and I will tell you what mine is as soon as I find it. Love you guys.
I am getting tired now so think I will lurk a few more minutes and then go to bed.
Good night ya’ll. It has been fun.
Good night all! I haven’t posted much, but I’ve enjoyed talking to all of you.
TexasSherry….if you need any help with that just let me know.
emca
I used to live in Northern CA, now live in So CA. Prefer Northern also.
goodnight texassherry and deepsouth!
#1293 queen,
That’s a long drive. Let me try and find someone who is closer. There was someone here named SonyaD who lives pretty close and works even closer. Haven’t seen her in a few days, but I’ll see if Maryland or Murphy can get my email to her. Maybe she can go with me. I’d hate for you to drive so far. He’s not worth it.
goanderson
Here’s one for you:
Those aren’t hot flashes, it’s my inner child playing with matches.
Good night ya’ll. Hope to chat with you again soon.
1290 Dances
you’re not happy in San Diego??
Goonight texassherry and Deep South!
1305 antifish
okie dokie, just let me know..i don’t mind.
emca the north is better than the south for sure!!
1302 DeepSouth
Night, sweet dreams
1308 goandersen
No. I miss Northern CA terribly.
1307 texassherry
Night. sleep well
well folks, it’s nearly 230 here in the east and the golden girls ended 20 mins ago…which means it’s time for bed…goodnight all!
1306 DancesWithPumas
Oh, I have a lot of people to send that one to! LOL!
goodnight texassherry
sweet dreams TexasSherry and DeepSouth
#1288 TexasSherry//
No, I’m not new. I’ve posted a few times here in the past weeks mostly during the day.
I stopped by to give HRC my $20.08 worth, and stayed to check-out what’s going on with the blog.
And thanks for the “hi”
what was that!
goodnight queen
1316 goanderson
LOL
Abe’s face just popped up at me
I just got back from 4th of July party and now we are up to 1270 posts and East Coast if off to bed…I guess it’s time for the West Coast night shift.
Anything I missed this afternoon…………it’s so difficult to read so many posts 
So, who here among us is planning on going to Denver?
1320 Trish
What?
The blog started scrolling and next thing it showed the message from a few nights ago and then brought me back here
I might go, but it depends on how many days and how costly it will be to say in hotels??? Or what ever. I am also a little worried about altitude sickness, got sick just going up to volcano in Hawaii
I wish i could go but i work way too much and can’t get out of it!!!
#1301 texassherry,
If you’re still here. I know your talent. You write well, with great enthusiasm and passion. I always enjoy your posts. Good night.
DancesWithPumas and goanderson…I appreciate your understanding…as an English teacher I read so much literature. Part of the English major training for me was learning to discern the meaning of writings on several levels, using innuendos and connotations of words. I may have some “wordar”, but I guess not much. Writing can be straight forward, but often is filled with revealations about the writer. See how wrong I was about goanderson!
Dances with Rodham Puma, do you know how long we have to make up our minds and let Murphy know?
#1306 Dances,
That’s so cool!
#1331 LilyMaid
Lily, you’re cool, no one took offense and you explained yourself well :0
PUMA group hugssssssssssssssssssss
hey, what grade do you teach?
Here’s teh link to Will Bower’s facebook PUMA cartoon collection.
http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=25214715411&view=all
Goodnight queen!
#1311 007Girl//
I use to live down in San Diego before coming north via LA. SanDi was o.k., but I missed having trees around.
LilyMaid
““wordar””
I love it!
#1323 Trish,
Abe Lincoln?
1331 LilyMaid
No worries.
emca i live near palm springs…hot and dry!!!
#1332 Billie Jo
Sorry, I couldn’t tell you
1339 anti
I want some of what Trish is smoking
#1325 Dances,
I’m going.
#1339 antifish
I see what must have happened, I had a few websites open, and this blog flashed in and out bringing the website in front. Wasn’t expecting it.
Night queen81
Rock On
#1343 goandersen,
I want some too. What is it?
#1296 emca
I finished my nightly chores and checked the posts one last time.
Emca — where in NoCal are you (if you don’t mind me asking). I’m in the Sacramento area.
#1343 goandersen
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy i don’t share my crayola crayon wax!
emca
yes! The treeeees! Trees effect the air… when I drive up on Hwy 5 (Golden State Highway), as soon as you hit Livermore or thereabouts, it’s as if you’ve just drive into the “real oxygen” zone.
Billiejo sorry but i don’t have the answer maybe someone can answer her post #1332
Ahhhhh…this retired person can retire to bed knowing she is not misunderstood. Oh, and Trish…many thanks.
#1295 pa dem
That article is encouraging to read but as usual… the problem with CNN trying to put an Obama spin on the data and they miss the point and the real reason’s behind those poll statistics.
#1332 BillieJo
I don’t think there has been a deadline set yet, they’re still working out details
1349 TrishfromCanada
We just wanted to see Abe’s face too!!! LOL!
goandersen~ I saw somewhere on the post the email for cynthis in Ohio? I listened so hard to the radio blog, but I could not hear wha she wanted us to do . I can’t find your post. Amyinfo?
I be sure to save it. Wine, wine today, but had my shirt on! Ordered my PUMA PAC shirts today and really wanted to wear that one!
LilyMaid, I think when there’s a strong focus / concentration on anything, it opens us to deeper intuitive knowing.
#1352 LilyMaid
You’re welcome, it was good to get to know you
1352 LilyMaid
Oh, rest well, sweet dreams and we will see you tomorrow. Happy 4th!
#1355 goandersen
When I start seeing MO hairy arm, I’m outta here
#1332 Billie jo,
She didn’t really give us a cut-off date but they need to know as soon as possible for planning purposes.
#1356 virginia.puma
I am pleased to know you were dressed while outside
#1341 007girl//
Ha, its hot and dry all over the state. Ca’s on fire. Makes me wonder what the rest of the year holds in store.
1356 virginia puma
Hey there. Good to see you.
They are in the planning stages of focusing on the Swing States. She wanted people to email her if they were interested in helping out.
cruccia@ymail.com
I mailed her, and she said she would get back in a week or so with the plan.
Good night Lily Maid.
You write like a woman.
#1360
lol
1360 TrishfromCanada
Lol! look over there!! LOL!
purr
#1365 antifish
lol don’t do that when I’m drinking water!
Goodnight , LilyMaid. Sleep with angels and dream of PUMAs
Trish~ barely, it was hot and sweaty and it rained. Now I must tell you that I can personally make people run when in a wet T shirt contest~
1363 emca
Hasn’t the air sucked??? I hope the cooler air helps the firefighters put the flames out.
emca i agree but out here it is not as green as it is up north….
#1362 Trish,
I wasn’t going to say it. Thought maybe it was the wine.
virginia, I’m glad you had your shirt on too.
#1365 antifish
LOL
Thanks go~ I’ll email tomorrow!! Hope they plan on VA!!!
I want to personally thank you and anti for trying to stick up for me. It took reassurance from Maryland PUMA to return. I felt as though I had been bulldozed.
#1374 antifish
lol wow its giddy time
#1371…lol
#1348 mzebest//
No I don’t mind. I’m also from Sacramento.
#1350 DancesWithPumas
To paraphase a movie line: “I love the smell of pine in the morning”…event if I have to drive 80 miles to get it!
1376 virginia.puma
hey, that’s what friends are for. No abuse here of anyone ever!
It was a rough spot that we all got through. Glad you are back with the Pac(k)
#1371 virginia,
Really? How do you make them run in a wet t-shirt contest? And why?
Go ~`moi aussie mon amie!
1374
Virginia Puma running around with not shirt??
What a party animal!
1382 virginia.puma
you guys are killing me
#1376 virginia,
I’m so glad you cam back. We’re all family here.
I think what I’ll do is get wet and run smack into a pack of Obamabots! Watch em scatter! Now that would be funny. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe I should go to Denver!!!!
1381 antifish
why? LOL!
Oops, came back
#1388 goandersen,
Inquiring minds want to know!
#1379 emca
1350 DancesWithPumas
To paraphase a movie line: “I love the smell of pine in the morning”…event if I have to drive 80 miles to get it!
LOL. Exactly. More like 495 miles for me. (That’s the distance to the Bay Area, and half the distance to Denver).
I wonder if mo shaves her arms?
Because anit~ I’ve been through my prime, and used it quite alot. But, well, I lost it somewhere. My prime that is!!
NO, I didn’t mean that.
#1387
The visual is killing me with laughter!!!
help me out here Trish
#1373 007girl //
Yes, the Ca desert is not like other forms of the state. I spent some time in Anzo-Borrego. The sun is merciless on a summer afternoon.
I think it’s down around my knees but I can’t see that far! LOL
1390 antifish
do we have the answer yet?
#1387 virginia,
Yeah come to Denver! We’ll wet you down and let you after the bots all you want!
I like to camp in Anza-Borrego during the winter… sun and warmth, but I never go out there after April. There;s something about 114 degree temps that I just can’t seem to acclimate to over the course of a weekend.
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/hey-marc-penn-are-you-enjoying.html
Speaking of bots…
I can;t help but wonder if some of the crazier bots are looking forward to Denver so that they can beat our brains out. It’s been a consideration.
Dances ~ a scarey one at that.
Go ~ I am also wondering how much Penn received UNDER the table
1403 DancesWithPumas
I am sure there are a few like that, there always is.
I am not expecting a riot. I do suggest we watch out for each other though.
hey people..what have I missed tonight?
#1392 goandersen,
No, I read in Vogue that MO doesn’t shave her arms. She actually lets them grow so she can use the hairs for practice. She removes them one by one with her lizard tongue! She uses the same technique to remove gray hair from BO’s head. Obviously, she’s been too busy with her own arms lately. Could be because they’re getting longer?
went to ball game tonight talked to cop there
1401 Virginia.puma
I bet we will never know that one.
It is so hard for me to wrap my mind around these people’s behavior.
even he was frustrated at level of info they’re being given
1406 Taffy
LOL!
Taffy AND?
1407 antifish
you are one of a kind! Truly you are. LOL!
said they were told helicopters were just routine training and he said “like we believe that” also said all cops have to work 16 hour shifts and no time off everybody possible will be on street…even those with desk jobs
1410 Taffy
Been celebrating?
#1403 Dances,
I hope not. Even though it has crossed my mind a few times. They aren’t very nice people over all.
Me thinks Trish feel off her stool.
Where are ya girl??
yep went to game…good one. rockies squeaked through a win 18-17 bottom of 9th
then the fireworks display
I have been on other blogs and the bots are rude and i wouldn’t under estimate them!!! I work with a few of them and we go at it sometimes (verbally) !!
1416 antifish
sandipuma and I will be the first ones in the pokey. We will save you guys a place.
sandipuma has to have the bunk though.
but cop we were talking to was really frustrated…wondered how 1500 of them could control over 10,000 expected protestors
I’m sorry but I have a very tenuous feeling about what might happen. I saw somewhere there is this group that wants to “recreate 68.” That was the first election I could vote in: Humphrey vs Nixon. I lost, but I remember watching the Chicago fiasco on TV and it really frightened me. I pray each day that there can be a vocal but non violent demonstration. Perhaps PUMAs should stay away from that group.
1422 Taffy
10,000? LOL! 3 times that!
#1416 antifish
Then again, it isn’t as though we’re going to be isolated and easily picked off. We’re going to be one massive crowd of PUMA
let me bounce something off of any on here….I think we need to do some tweaking in our strategy
recreate 68 has split into 2 groups because one sector is wanting violence and one isn’t. so there are 2 parts to it now
#1407 antifish//
funny a while back I saw this blog with a picture of MO beside a picture of a piranha. Now I just can’t get that image out of my head.
They are only expecting 10,000? That doesn’t sound right to me. I think there will be alot more.
1423 virginia.puma
They want to scare us into thinking there will be an all out riot in Denver. They just want us to stay home and shut up. I am not having any weird feelings about it, and usually I pick up on that kind of stuff.
If you are a little shy about it, stay to the outside of the crowd, and stay with your group.
Are you kidding me? I thought “recreate 68″ was a figure of speech, not an actual group! Freakazoids.
#1420 oo7 girl,
Yes, I used to blog on WaPo a lot before I came here and the bots were just evil. Whenever they were bested at debate, they invariably resorted to personal attacks.
1425 Dances
That’s what I’m saying. Stay together and we will all be fine. Most people do not want to get violent.
1432 antifish
most of these people online hurling the attacks are very young people, who if stood up to will just run the other way. They feel all tough behind the computer screen.
It is all puff though.
Trish???
brb
My co workers are upset with me because i changed their “selected” name to “Bajoke Changealot”!!!
weird…I typed some more and it vanished!
I know that most of you PUMAs are planning to vote for McCain and I am wondering if that is the best option. One site mentioned voting for a third party candidate instead and I am wondering if any of you are considering it. True that the third party person will not win, but isn’t someone like Nader closer to Hillary’s principles than McCain? Please read what is below and let me know what you think.
The systematic degrading of Hillary Clinton goes far beyond the Democratic party cronies and MSNBC commentators. In order to really give women (not just HRC) a chance to compete evenly, you have to get to the root of that problem, and the Republican party is one of the largest cogs in the machine.
If you’re REALLY fed up with Democrats not representing the values of true change and equal rights, then why don’t you stick it to them, while still staying true to your ideology?
Yes, I am once again, talking about 3rd parties.
Independents are, believe it or not, the largest voting block in the United States. So why do they keep splitting themselves down the middle and not voting for independent parties?
If the PUMAs want to teach the DNC a lesson by putting Mccain into the White House, they certainly can do that. There are more than enough of them to tip the scales far enough to ensure that Obama cannot win. But if the PUMAs want to teach AMERICA a lesson about the power of voters, then they should throw their lot behind an Independent, and the game would be changed forever. While their choice might not win the White House, creating a legitimate 3rd option to challenge the stagnant Republican and Democrat controlled status quo would do far more for the plight of women and other minorities than checking the box for John Mccain will ever do.
I agree, we will have way more than 10,000 there, but most of us will be peacefully protesting. By all means, we should avoid the militant wing of Recreate 68. They will probably be quickly arrested and not be a problem for us. Like goandersen said, we will have to watch each others backs.
Yes, but mob mentality is scarey too. I am not saying stay home! Everyone that can go, and wants to should! Unfortunately I cannot go. I know that now. But my mind flashes to the protesters at Kent State and all. I think go’s stratgy of staying in a tight pack, PAC is the best. Then everyone can look out for eachother. Just in case too, everyone should have a meet up place if things go awry.
anyway I got to thinking that bb is really using brainwashing techniques. say the thing over and over and it becomes fact. it’s like teaching to read. We call this an “a” but in other languages it is called other things
1437 007girl
you tell em! “BaJoke Changealot” lol!
sorry it is Bajoke Ochangealot….. this election really scares me either way
#1427 Taffy//
Sounds like another ’68, but I don’t think it would play today. Most people realize there’s little to gain.
1439 BillieJo
Everyone’s vote is a private matter. I for one will not vote 3rd party because it will throw a vote to BO. My goal is to keep his skinny A– out of our White House!
#1441 virginia,
That’s a good idea. Having a pre-planned meeting place in case things get crazy.
Obama addresses some factions of his supporters like a gang warlord. Even a cicilized thing like debating McCain: “They bring a knife. We bring a gun.”
I mean really. Like he’s some punk thug instead of someone campaigning for the nomination / presidency.
And these punks who are actually planning to be violent. They’re like an alien species that walks amongst us.
so maybe our approach to the sds need to change a little. maybe our letters need to point out “who said bb has the nomination wrapped up? He does, but do the people? do all the sds agree on this? is it a fact or just an acceptance?” Do you see what I’m getting at? They are taking as fact something that has not been dtermined yet because he is making it a fact. Others are better writers than me. I’m just trying to point out the flaw in bb’s plan. It’s not a fact yet!!!!
1444 007girl
it is getting late, my fingers are sleeping.
1439 BillieJo on 07.05.08 at 3:20 am
_____________________________________
It is something to think about, But for me, if it is not Hillary, it is McCain. He has the most organization to win, and I am afraid if we give our votes to a third party, Obama could still squeek by. I cannot have that. I cannot have Obama in the White House,
The other thing is, there is o one in the third party that I believe can manage the terrible times that we are in right now. Not that either of the two candidates can either, now that I think about it. Tis a puzzlement.
1447 antifish
that is why I said a few days ago to have some one in Denver scope it out for us.
#1434 goandersen//
Boy you hit the nail on the head. Many of the left bloggers are not “action heroes”
#1428 emca,
MO=piranha
There’s a cell phone list being compiled, but I’m not sure we’ll be able to get a connection with all the telecommunications equipment. We couldn’t even get reception at the last Dyke March in SFO.
1453 emca
…and they won’t even be there because they will all be back in school.
#1452 goanderson,
We have a couple of folks on the ground there right? I’m trying to think of their names….. Oh, one is mini vee! Do you know the other?
they’ve put so much new tech equipment in center because news coming from all over world
goandersen….i just forgot the O that’s why i reposted the name!!!
1455 DancesWithPumas
Oh, that must have been a desaster!
I didn’t spell that right.
I have to go to sleep.
Taffy, are you in Denver too?
1459 007girl
I thought I got it wrong. Oy Vey! It is late.
Where did Trish go??
william is here and so am I
don’t know yet if I’m going. two things…hubby’s vacation plans and health. I can’t stand for long periods of time and I can’t take extreme heat
1439 BillieJo
The votes that Howard Dean Inc. are most worried about are the Democratic ones that will go to McCain.
Let them worry. In the end, we will all vote our conscience and what is best for our country.
1457 antifish
no. I think we can make this suggestion to whoever is planning this deal. maryland puma??
I can help with a lot of the groundwork here as we get closer find out bus schedules etc they don’t even know what’s going to be shut down yet and how it will affect their routes
Yea~ me too. I am supposed to get up and do some stuff tomorrow. Night all my PUMAbuds!
((((((((((((((((((PUMAbuds))))))))))))))))))))))
OK “sweeeties”
I am going nite nite now.
Good to play again!
see you all tomorrow.
Oh, I am going to meet up with Normita tomorrow and the group in NoCA planning the march to Denver. I will report what I can.
Taffy, so when you spoke of tweaking strategies… what exactly were your thoughts?
I sponsored $20 for busses for you guys
Billie jo,
If I wasn’t so concerned about BO becoming president, I would gladly vote for Nader. I agree with him much more than McCain. However, in this election, a vote for Nader is a wasted vote. He will not garner enough votes to appreciably affect Obama’s results. Too many people are still pissed at him for 2000. The only vote that hurts Obama is a vote for McCain.
Goodnite all thank you for the warm welcome….i will post with you guys anytime..it was entertaining!!!
we’ve been “jumping” on sds….somehow we need to soften approach and get them to question themselves as to who told them they have to vote that way. I’m thinking of what happened with evan bayh specifically. he was a staunch hillary supporter… sen from indiana. he even had conference calls to try and line up sds behind hillary. somehow he got turned and is now behind bb. how did that happen?
One vote for McCain is really two votes:
One for McCain, one less for Obama that he has to replace and another to surpass McCain.
#1468 goandersen,
Good night. I heard they have free lessons at writelikeawoman.com! LOL! Love ya!
night 007girl
Goodnight 007 girl!
#1440 antifish on 07.05.08 at 3:20 am
I agree, we will have way more than 10,000 there, but most of us will be peacefully protesting. By all means, we should avoid the militant wing of Recreate 68. They will probably be quickly arrested and not be a problem for us. Like goandersen said, we will have to watch each others backs.
=============
Is there a point to pointlessly speculating?
Have you been to a protest in your life?
Have you been to a political convention in recent years?
In NYC, they took NETS and simply rounded up entire BLOCKS. Everyone, protesters, peaceful or not, passers-by.
Whatever. Hopefully there will be seasoned people making REAL plans, with fliers on what to do if arrested, phone numbers of lawyers, what to carry, what to say, the real deal.
This fantasy stuff about the BAD GUYS getting arrested while the peaceful heros watch is like a poorly written script for a tv movie.
pressure (ie no favors in the future) and money…
most of the sds seem to be lining up behind bb because bb and dean, pelosi, etc. told them they need to. they are the sheep, not us. so our strategy has to be changed until they doubt themselves. we’ve been forcing them to defend themselves. just like dealing with teens.. tell them not to do something and they do it
Goodnight virginia!
You know, you didn’t even have to be there in NYC….you could probably research it and read real life accounts and at least have an idea of what crowd control is all about.
It’s about message control.
And we know the stakes are high in controlling the message this go around.
do you see where i’m coming from?
“Is there a point to pointlessly speculating?”
No so pointless. The conversation is one way for peole to release anxieties they may be experiencing, and it’s also a way to anticipate ways in which we should prepare, your list for example, is a good one.
Are you planning on going to Denver?
Taffy, thanks for donating to the buses!
I’ve been meaning to repeat an idea I posted ages ago…maybe someone else thought of it?
Try craigslist for unconventional (pun not intended!) housing.
When the Dem convention came to Boston I put up at least a half dozen people!
well all i know is that when they started having “routine” maneuvers here with blackhawk helicopters, special forces, and navy seals….it’s not so routine!
Zee~ O agree. But the best defense is to be prepared. A central command point, a actual list of people in your group so you can account for them, ell phone numbers, meet up places, the list of lawyers in your posckets, a gas mask, etc. I have been through so many demonstrations, anti Viet nam, etc as I was growing up in the sixties. You have to be prepared. You have to be prepared. Then, knowing what will happen next will help each person assess where they are in the process, and know the next step ahead if something does break out. It can be done, and it should be done.
#1208 Cat in NJ on 07.05.08 at 1:46 am
I stopped reading the Comrade Obama-loving rag, the New York Times, a while back … but I was happy to read this bit:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/a_lightbulb_goes_off_over_the.html
Happy 232nd USA!
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Thanks for posting that, loved this quote, since it really sums it up with an apt analogy for the whole Obamaton kool-aid drinker phenomenon, and how some are waking up to a nasty little surpise:
“The New York Times editorial board went to bed with a virgin and woke up with a … well, a pro, in milder terms, or so they seem to imply in today’s unhappy missive. “
I I I NOT O
#1478 Zee,
I see you’re up to your usual. Swooping in from out of nowhere and choosing a victim to debase. You chose the wrong one tonight. I’m not playing your little games.
somebody mentioned that a couple of days ago but you might drop marylandpuma an email. she can add it in her links ideas. lots of people may not have seen it.
Nighty nite antifish~ ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))
Dances,
You still here?
right here antifish
Nite ((((((((((virginia))))))))))! See you tomorrow.
I hope someone starts a new thread soon
lol
Here we go again.
murphy took the day to reconnect with her family. she deserves the time after all her hard work. probably be a new thread bright and early
Zee, I want to say this:
You have great insight and valuable experience. You’re the kind of person I would chose to spend time with to get to know, but… what happens is often when you post, you come off as scolding. I recognize this because I come off that way too.
Do with this what you like.
: )
anti do you see what i mean about forcing the sds to defend themselves rather than getting them to think about what’s really happening?
#1499 Taffy,
Yes, I admire Murphy. I can’t wait to meet her in person.
Continued:
You come off as scolding so your message is lost.
In real life, when someone yells at me… I can’t hear a word they’re saying. KWIM?
I actually feel like I’m lecturing myself.
Points noted!
#1439 BillieJo
You bring up very good point, but if your going to prevent BO from residing in White House, you need to have someone that can be elected. Third parties have a bad history in this country. While Ralph Nader may be closer policy-wise than McCain, he is too much a long shot to consider supporting. Then again some of the left is rethinking their devotion to BO and Nader would definitely be a logical choice (again). That turn-around would definitely hurt Obama more so than a Hillary supporter doing the same.
That being said, in my mind, Hillary hasn’t lost yet, so maybe talk of who else to vote for is premature.
I’d like to know how Murphy keeps up with it all.. the larger picture and the minute details and, what are to me, somewhat silly questions.
emca
“That being said, in my mind, Hillary hasn’t lost yet, so maybe talk of who else to vote for is premature.”
Exactly. I cringe when I hear people donated money to McCain today (5.44). What if Clinton is his opponent? I wouldn’t want to fill his coffers so that he can use those contributions to fight Senator Clinton.
#1501 Taffy,
Yeah, I think so. You have a point. I must say, I’ve never torn BO down when writing to sds. I always just write about why I think Hillary is so qualified to be president. That way it doesn’t make them feel like I’m questioning their choice. But, that’s just me. I’m sure they get a lot of irate letters.
I harp on the process. Obama’s supporters could write those same (not quite, but still…) letters in favor of their candidate.
go Hillary!
and I’m going to bed.
“Are you planning on going to Denver?”
I haven’t decided. I have friends and family in that area, and so many are generously donating for travel…and, for me, protests and conventions are like HOLIDAYS…and I never get to take holidays…but…that amount of time off would be a severe drain on my resources, and I have other obligations that would be difficult to discharge for that amount of time.
Sucks.
My point still stands. If you KNOW from experience or research something, share it.
If you’re just blowing off steam, say that. Say you IMAGINE or you HOPE.
To state as a fact that all the bad protesters will “quickly get arrested” smacks of a fantasy tv script.
For one thing…it’s not that hard to organize disruptive tactics that only leave a few at risk of getting arrested. I remember in DC on Inaugural Day 2001 some of the anarchists overturned a car. They did it for a specific reason which I now forget, but “all” of the protesters were not “quickly arrested.” There were far too many….and there will be far too many to “quickly arrest” in Denver as well.
In NYC 2004, tension built and you could FEEL when something was going to happen. It’s orchestrated almost like choreography. And when they block off entire streets and you’re trapped and your sister protesters are writing the numbers of lawyers on your arm in marker, it’s damned scary….scary enough that I skipped the streets the next day because I knew they were ramping up for mass arrests.
And who knows what they have planned in Denver, but know this: it won’t be regular “holding cells” — not enough space. In NYC they put the masses they arrested in abandoned bus terminals — oily cement and chain link. No access to meds, no access to feminine products, nothing.
Maybe instead of POINTLESSLY speculating, people could call and research.
Call the news outlets, see what they know. Call the police. You don’t have to call secret service, because if you call the police and say you are organizing a protest and want to know correct procedures and what to expect, etc….the secret service call you.
Dances,
I have to disagree. What you see as scolding, I see as condescending. I really don’t appreciate it from someone who is becoming famous for drive-by attacks. She did the same thing just a few nights ago and almost caused Cosmeta to leave the blog.
thanks anti…JMO…but we need to find a strategy quickly to get them to question themselves as to why they are backing a Presuptive” nominee. I was looking at the paper tomight. there is a big picture on the front page saying “he” is looking at using invesco for his speech. Ok. so now everybody in denver is getting 2 messages from that front page ad that isn’t even truth! 1 “he” IS the nominee and 2 “he” will be at invesco. Now people will think on it a few days and if it comes to pass well it was known all along
#1439 BillieJo on 07.05.08 at 3:20 am
I think a certain percentage of us are not voting third party, because we want to send a message very loud and very clear, We Are Finished with the CORRUPT MACHINE. The Democratic Leadership lost me forever when they let the media denigrate Hillary Clinton, and then when they all start screaming for Hillary Clinton to drop out of this very very early in the Primaries. If there can be something such as “high-tech lynching” then there can also be what I can only describe as a “High-Tech Honor Killing”.
For those who do not know, Honor Killing is an obscene abhorrent practice in Islamic countries, where a woman, usually a young woman, is caught doing something, as simple as falling in love with someone not chosen for her, and the men in the family and community get together and kill her, for trying to be an individual with rights.
We need a pschology major on how to combat this form of brainwashing
Oh, well. Dances, I’m going to bed. She’s not even responding to any of our posts. Too full of herself. Have a good night my friend. Talk tomorrow if you’re around.
Interesting.
You’re right.
“If you’re just blowing off steam, say that. Say you IMAGINE or you HOPE.”
Agreed, but some of the late night chat often wanders off into other realms, it’s harmless, just a release, and sometimes the super heroes vs the BAD guys is a comfort to those who are anxious.
Night antifish
By the way. I think we have to look at principles before personalities, the message vice the messenger. I think Z makes some valid points.
Okay… I’m off to bed. Good evening to all.
1500 Dances with Pumas, I know. If we had a smiley that rolled its eyes, maybe that would help…but no matter what, it’s so easy to misinterpret internet communication that I don’t sweat it anymore…well, not much. Everyone here scolds at times. Everyone has his or her pet peeves. I know it says more about the person talking than the person talked to, so look at it that way. Now you know another pet peeve of mine!
Dances,
One more thing before I sign off. You are not scolding yourself. I have never heard that tone in any of your posts. You’re one of the “good guys”. Goodnight!
Okay, I finally caught up with the blog. Nighty Night West Coast!!!
It’s all good. (Except maybe spending a lot of money on McCain before Sept.)
The best way to defeat McCain in November is to defeat Obama in August, which may require pledging to vote against Obama in November, which (for many people) means pledging to vote for McCain in November.
Yes, it’s convoluted. But imo the only thing the DNC and the SDs will take seriously in August IS 7 million Hillaristas planning to vote for McCain (or stay home etc).
So getting attemtion in August requires making serious plans for November.
One vote for McCain equals two people staying home (or doing third party or writeins). It’s all good.
“Swooping in from out of nowhere” — You mean, having a life and keeping up here when I can spare the hours it takes to step over the pointless socializing in order to further the stated goals of PUMA?
Hardly, antifish…while you and the other prima donna drama queens shriek about leaving every other night and then come back and suck all the focus out of this group, I spent HOURS responding to every single post in 900+ threadS….including telling cosmeta how to enlarge text in a PDF so she could read them.
Or, I should say, responding to every VALID post that wasn’t about remembering childhood feasts of watermelon and potato salad or maudlin pleas for the prima donnas to honor us with their presence again.
If cosmeta, which I doubt, has joined your band of drama queens who threaten to walk offstage at every imagined slight, it has nothing to do with the many, many responses I have given her.
And the reason you thought I wasn’t responding, contrary to the posts above which prove I was?
It’s because I think about what I say and post something substantial. But carry on. From each according to one’s ability, and all that.
#1522 turndownobama
…The best way to defeat McCain in November is to defeat Obama in August, which may require pledging to vote against Obama in November, which (for many people) means pledging to vote for McCain in November.
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Well said! We must be a credible threat. Let the Obama faithful, who are having fits about their messiah’s “betrayal” and flipflops do the rest.
#1521 deadgirlsrise on 07.05.08 at 4:23 am
Okay, I finally caught up with the blog.
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Yep…it takes ages to do…wee hours for us on the east!
#1487 virginia.puma
Good points!
I wonder if we have people in the Denver area who could give us some valuable perspective, both on police mentality there (and I know it will be more than the local police, but still) and on the terrain of the city?
To hillaryistheone (or anyone that can help ):
you have made a comment on July4 at: http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/all-comments/#comments
” LoveAmerica” responded to you on July 5th, 2008 at 1:57 am :
This is wonderfully written. Can I try and send this to our local newspaper or blog. People need to know these things but don’t want to plegarize so how should I do it.
put by “hillyistheone” or what? Thanks
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Since I don’t know how to give suggestion on this, can hillaryistheone or anyone here give advice to LoveAmerica as to how to go about this by leaving a comment on that site for her? Thanks.
1480, 1483
Taffy, I see where you’re coming from, but you’re missing a huge part of the entire problem.
No one can buck a trend. No one. It can’t be done…it won’t be heard.
Barney Frank, a Hillary supporter, who is one of the most outspoken members of congress and who gets tons of sound bytes on air, has spoken on this more than once to his constituents.
You only have a narrow sliver of opportunity with media coverage. That’s it. You can only address what is being covered. If it’s not part of the NARRATIVE, good luck.
Bill Clinton has spoken of this: in South Carolina he praised Obama at every place he spoke. But no one heard it because it didn’t fit the media narrative of Bill the racist, so it didn’t get airtime.
We can work with the narrative, though. PUMA is known to the media and they are intrigued. Obama’s flipflopping is also part of their narrative.
So we can tell the SDs that Obama’s own core is abandoning him and that PUMA is standing strong in its resolve not to support Obama, and ask them to keep an open mind, let Hillary get her chance at the convention to be on the ballot, and if the delegates think the tide has swung, Hillary has a chance of prevailing.
So, to use your “teen” analogy, we have to convince them that Hillary has the happening bandwagon now.
None of them are going to stick their necks out…but they probably would be thrilled to vote their conscience if they thought there was lots of ground support for it.
1527 northern neighbor
Go to the sidebar and explore the action site. There are emails of PUMAs who help run this site.
Email Murphy or one of the others and ask them to send your contact info to hillaryistheone.
I”ll try that. Thanks Zee.
1473 Taffy: I’m thinking of what happened with evan bayh specifically. he was a staunch hillary supporter… sen from indiana. he even had conference calls to try and line up sds behind hillary. somehow he got turned and is now behind bb. how did that happen?
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Same way as staunch Hillary supporter Barney Frank now claims for Obama. The media narrative. “It’s all over” — you can’t buck that. They determine the “reality” that is reported.
I’ll bet both of them would be back to Hillary in a FLASH if there were an opening. The opening has to be starting with the media narratives of Obama the flipflopper angering his core base…and PUMA standing strong for Hillary.
If we create a new narrative where the media starts to speculate what if it’s not over…what if the tide has turned for Hillary now…only then will there be enough of a backdrop for those Hillary supporters to act and make an impact.
Otherwise, they will go along with the “united” bs.
They need a CONTEXT. Arguments on Hillary’s expertise and ability have no bearing at this point, sadly enough.
What the SDs need from us is CONTEXT. A new scenario they can be part of.
#1522 turndownobama
Well said. I stated earlier today in a post the buzz from Nancy Pelosi’ office. “We are a threat only if we vote McCain, we are not a threat if we stay home”. A friend who works for Nancy and a BO supporter herself was telling me that yesterday. Votes can be a powerful force together if they are not diluted.
#1522
cont…. as you said pledging now to vote for McCain before the convention.
What I had heard yesterday, is that it has been made clear with all MSM interviews that we are standing together protesting the election. BUT what has also been made clear is we are going different directions with our voting.
#1528 Zee on 07.05.08 at 4:50 am
Marc Rubin, who works with “The Denver Group”, says that 175 delegates switching to Hillary would nominate her. (That’s about 25% of the SDs, and the other delegates may be able to switch on first ballot also; certianly they all can on second ballot.)
I don’t think the media narrative is the main thing, though. Pelosi, Reid, etc twisted arms to get many SDs to go to Obama in early June. Something would have to change that.
Maybe one factor is that Pelosi hoped to get donatiosn for the DNC by ending the contest early. But that isn’t happening. Even Obama isn’t bailing them out. So when they see they’ve sold their souls to the devil and aren’t even getting paid….
I got this from Hillary Clinton news. — For legal reasons ~ please fill out this form so that your money will be redirected appropriately. Otherwise your monies donated to http://www.hillaryclinton.com may be returned in time. GO TO: http://www.hillarycampaign2008.com ~ FILL OUT THE FORM. PLEASE GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/2008/07/alert-if-you-have-donated-please-read.html
I’m a little confused as to why this form would be going out rather than the one to retire her debt. I just printed out the retire the debt form and mailed it to Maggie Williams regarding a $25 check I mailed to the campaign office on 6/29 without any form. When I contributed the $20.08 yesterday, I did use the proper form for retiring the debt. What’s going on?
Morning All,
Still with the family, but checking in.
Morning open thread and Denver Reminder up.
Take it upstairs!
Folks, Listen to what Zee, #1522,1532 is saying. It’s right on target. We have to stop the bickering and infighting amonst ourselves and not sound like a bunch of chatroom drama queens who threaten to leave and then lurk awhoile and come back cuz they just can’t resist saying something else. That has to stop and should NEVER have started. Much work has been performed to organize and establish our own base and such a shame it wqould be to see it all implode.
We absolutely have to create an opening, perhaps with a combined campaign of convincing Obama’s core that he is flip-flopping because he is just another amateur politician with no experience. And a strong campaign aimed at the SD’s over the fact that Israel WILL attack Iran before the election if Obama gains the nomination and we will all DEFINITELY vote McCain to prevent or delay that happening. Hillary, at least, has Israeli support. And remind them of the consequences to us all if that attack occurs and how we, the public and voters, will feel if that attack occurs. Because, make no mistake, if it does, we will see “change’ alright, change that the Owanna never even though of how to address.
We are playing hardball here and if we don’t stand for something, we will fall for anything and Zee has made the most pertinent points tonight. The Party may be divided but WE must be united within our group.
I understand how easy it is to waver under fire. It’s hard for me to contribute to reducing hillary’s debt when I see her helping Obama’s campaign. But I realize it for being part of an overall strategy.
But, between now and August Convention is when the rubber meets the road for us. So we MUST present a united front above all else. No more $$ for the DNC, and yes, we WILL vote for McCain before we will see this scam artist, Obama, elected.
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