Independence Day

Today’s the day! Contribute to Senator Clinton’s debt reduction fund!

https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200

$20.08 or whatever you can afford.

Happy Independence Day !!

from Annabellep

http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/#comment-240

When, in the course of U. S. Presidential Elections, it becomes necessary for one portion of a political party to assume among the people of the nation a position different from that which they have previously occupied, but one to which the laws of nature and of their Constitution entitle them, a decent respect for the opinions of fellow citizens requires that they should declare the causes that impel them to such a course.

In agreement with generations who have gone before us, we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men and women are created equal; that they are endowed at birth with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of those who suffer from it to refuse allegiance to it, and to insist upon the institution of a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.

Prudence will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for transient causes; and accordingly experience has shown that citizens are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the political structures to which they are accustomed. But political parties are not governments, and when a long train of abuses and usurpations evinces a design to reduce them under authoritarianism, it is their duty to throw off such a political party, and to provide different representation for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of many in the Democratic Party, and it is this suffering which compels them to now demand the representation to which they are entitled. The recent history of both parties is a history of repeated injuries on the part of elected officials against the electors, having in direct object the establishment of authoritarian power over them, for the purpose of profit. This has rendered the Democratic Party unrecognizable to ordinary citizens. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

Objections

The members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and By-Laws Committee violated The DNC charter on May 31, 2008 by meeting in private, in direct violation of the Sunshine Rules Provision of said Charter.

On that same day, the Democratic Party grossly violated ethical standards when it awarded four delegates to candidate Barack Obama based on actual votes for candidate Hillary Clinton, and in addition, awarded him delegates based on votes for “Uncommitted.”

Earlier in the campaign season, the Democratic Party violated its own Delegate Selection Rules by applying penalties to only two states who broke Section 11 calendar rules, even though five states broke those rules. In addition, Florida and Michigan were originally stripped of 100% of their delegates, even though the rules stipulated a 50% penalty.

The decisions of the RBC meeting mentioned above are evidence of sexism and authoritarianism within the ranks of the Democratic Party.

Caucuses are a violation of the one-person, one-vote and secret ballot principles that have been cornerstone Democratic values for more than a century. They produced a skewed and unfair result this primary season. Caucus states are also over-represented in the pledged delegate count, in violation of the one-person, one-vote principle.

Sexism was allowed to flourish as never before not only because of the behavior of the mainstream media, but also by the actions of many in the progressive online community, the stark silence of the Democratic Leadership and because ordinary Americans, male and female, engaged in it as long as it advanced their favored candidate.

Barack Obama and his campaign exploited racial issues in the primary campaign, which risks setting back the Civil Rights movement, and cynical Democratic leaders, as well as some ordinary Democrats, approved of this campaign tactic.

The voices of 18 million voters who supported Hillary Clinton have been illegitimately silenced, ridiculed, and subjected to outright fabrications on the part of the mainstream press and the Internet press.

The evidence is present, for anyone who wants to see it, that authoritarian tendencies fueled by greed are on the rise in the Democratic Party.

Now, in view of the dismissal of one-half the Democratic voters of this primary season, their social degradation, in view of the unjust actions above mentioned, and in view of the disenfranchisement of the voters in two states, and because we do feel ourselves aggrieved, oppressed, and fraudulently deprived of a free and fair primary election, we insist that the Democratic Party address our objections, or risk the loss of our votes come November.

In entering upon the work before us, we anticipate no small amount of misconception, misrepresentation, and ridicule; but we will use every instrumental within our power to affect our objectives. We will employ agents, circulate tracts and flyers, blog, advertise in all media, petition state and national Democratic leadership, and endeavor to enlist the press in our behalf.

Resolutions

Resolved, that the Democratic Party must seat the full Michigan and Florida delegation in adherence to the thoroughly Democratic principle of one-person, one-vote.

Resolved, that Michigan delegates must be awarded according to the actual votes cast, specifically that Hillary Clinton must be given 73 delegates and Barack Obama must be given 0 (zero).

Resolved, that Hillary Clinton’s name must be offered on the first roll call at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August of 2008, in accordance with tradition for 16 of the last 18 Democratic National Conventions.

Resolved, that caucuses should be abolished, and the Democratic Primary system in its entirety must be reformed to better reflect the one-person, one-vote principle, as well as the equal representation principle enshrined in the Constitution.

Resolved, that millions of women and men alike no longer think of the Democratic Party as the party for women’s issues, or for equality and fairness, or for the protection of abortion rights, and will no longer vote for them based on such criteria.

Resolved, that the cynical exploitation of cultural issues will not be rewarded with votes, and that it is part of the PUMA mission to educate the electorate about such abuses.

Resolved, that the PUMA movement is comprised of traditional and loyal Democrats who have carefully watched and recorded the events of the 2008 Primary campaign season.

Resolved, that 18 million Americans voted for Hillary Clinton, more than any other presidential primary candidate in history, and they have a right to help shape the agenda and processes of the Democratic Party.

awesome Murphy….awesome

I am proud to be an American. The words of the Forefathers speak directly to this movement.

also from annabellep

(also posts on here too?)

not only can you copy this, you are compelled to do so.

Yes, yes, please, post it everywhere, print it out, paste it, tape it, staple it, stamp it, mail it, whatever! Just get it out there. It’s vital that we petition the Convention with rational arguments.

Thanks!

those are her words, I hope she won’t mind me reposting them here.

MamaPUMA, do you want to fax the Declaration of Objections to the News Journal at the number I gave you?

Excuse. That’s thread, not post. Sorry.

cjv—-This one is for you.

Donation amount: $50.00 USD
Total: $50.00 USD
Purpose: BUSES TO DENVER

Recipient information

Donations coordinator: Puma PAC
Contact email: murphy@pumapac.org

Happy Independence Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone posted this on Greta’s site. If true, could be interesting. “LARRY SINCLAIR has a new attorney former Delaware attorney general.”

#17

Now I need to catch up on Murphy’s interview…….

No Texas I have not checked out his site. I can comfortably live with the idea of McCain. I’ve spent a lot of time at his website and blog. I personally feel a huge bloc has to swing towards him or bb will still take the ge. But what we’re doing here is ensuring everyone places their vote where they WANT to, not where they are TOLD too! So everybody is making their own decisions while we still have that right!

sherry come on in. water still fine

I know of 3 medics , other than myself who are planning to go to Denver . Might I suggest the we set up a tent ( I have one ) in case of any medical emergencies ? Otherwise , I know we will all be carrying our supplies .

Happy 4th everyone …Great article; very appropriate…helps bring us all to the base for which we have joined this coalition of PUMA’s. How great for the freedom to be able to express our opinions and disgust with the current system and government in place but in turn, how sad we have to. I challenge those who read; those who are on the fence about whether there voice is even heard; those who lurk from the other side of this great debate our country is in …read what has been posted by on the front page …an excerpt from our Declaration…let it really speak; sink in; and consider where we are now ….food for thought.

#24 Taffy – I did just that the other night. But I am in the multitask mode right now. I carried this laptop into the room to get myself ready for the day…..good lord, I need wireless everywhere!

On the 4th of July all the wonderful PUMAS raised their heads in UNITY towards the dark night sky. The clueless would say, “THEY’RE JUST WATCHING THE FIREWORKS”, but the PUMAS WERE FEELING THEM IN THEIR HEARTS…a tradition that runs deep within the soul of this PROUD PUMAPAC. Feelings of PRIDE, GLORY, HONOR, and the STAR SPANGLED BANNER were exploding in the sky. The PUMAS thought of the American Flag, the Founding Fathers and their fight for Freedom, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, their Civil Rights, and the Right to Vote. The DNC was WRONG not to COUNT ALL THE VOTES as they were cast by the people. Presidential candidates should be “ELECTED BY THE MANY” and not “SELECTED BY THE FEW”. It goes to the CORE PRINCIPLES of FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY the cornerstones upon which our UNION was formed. The PUMA resolve grew as they watched overhead, they knew in their hearts that America and it PRINCIPLES are worth fighting for. If doing what is right and holding the DNC accountable means putting COUNTRY BEFORE POLITICAL PARTIES, then so be it. The PUMAS put their PAWS over their hearts as a GESTURE of SOLIDARITY.

Meanwhile back at the ranch in MONTANA, the DNC presumptive candidate was being eyed by a couple of local cowboys. “Yep, he sure looks like a POST TURTLE to me.” Makes me wonder how he got up there.”
He’s got a flag pin on but I heard he’ll “JUST BE WATCHING THE FIREWORKS.”

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY PUMAS!!!
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY HILLARY!!! (DONATE 20.08)
Historical Fact:
Americans shot off fireworks to celebrate their DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE…sounds like PUMAS to me!

post turtle….ROFL
forgot about that

Taffy , good info , thanks .

Taffy (#18)

Don’t know about dehydration in the summertime in Denver. But in the hills above at Keystone while TRYING to ski in 1994, I lost my breath and decided that was no fun. Vomitted too on my way down the slope in the tram.

People there are terrific and helpful. Got my rented Sentra stuck in the snow and a truck of people stopped to get me out.

True though. The altitude is not kind to visitors; but the people are. I even got carded at ALL the Diamond Shamrocks for wanting beer. And I was 41 at the time! (Must be the Beatle haircut I’ve had all my life that makes me look so…).

I love Denver residents.

BUSES TO DENVER $35.00

Total: $35.00 USD

If we need a campground, the closest to Denver is Cherry Creek- here is a link you can set up tents.
http://www.coloradodirectory.com/costateparks/cherry.html
The next closest I believe is in Lyons outside of Boulder.

#14TexasTigress…I heard on Hannity and Colmes last night that Nader may be the only candidate that truly wants to take our troops out of Iraq. Apparently BO is changing his position on Iraq too and although he promised to get our troops out in 16 months he is now saying he’ll have to reassess the situation. On the show they also said that if Nader keeps his policy of withdrawing troops he’ll probably take many votes away from BO!!!

A democratic stratagest on the show said that BO is changing from left wing liberal to centrist to win the general. He pretty much said that BO will do anything to win!! Nothing new I guess!!

HAPPY 4th PUMAs!!!

Just donated for buses and to retire debt.

Justsaynodeal youtube video to retire debt.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

44 Taffy and maxgrader

I’m a diabetic with heart problems and the 2 times I was in Denver, my only problem was a headache and thirst.

Here is a link to a campgrounds page in Denver. Sorry..don’t know any more than this.

http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Campgrounds/S-CO/T-Denver/

Well, that explains that. Thank you Taffy.

The cure to altitude sickness must be kindness. The people there made my stay a wonderful experience. And that made me feel real good real fast for I love kindness.

What’s with these darn smileys of mine today? Not like me. Guess I’m in a very satisfied mood this morning.

But, being a guy I better stop it or people will talk.

clarification from post 12

I meant anyone who watches the video to please stand, I didnt mean you pumaallie lol, sorry, so anyone who watches it to please stand while the video plays, thank you

TREEPUMA

HAPPY JULY 4TH PUMAS!

Donated to Hillary and Puma Pac this morning. Had to change my gmail as it was invaded by the Evil Ones. It took me over an hour to save my contacts and re-enter into a new email account, actually two new email accounts.

Sent Annabelle’s absolutely wonderful item to 86 newspapers in New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Montana, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. In the Subject line I put “Why 18 Million Will Not Fall in Line”.

I hope to increase my newspaper database this weekend to cover Missouri, Iowa, and Louisiana. It will take the Obats awhile to catch up with me again.

Have a wonderful 4th and enjoy the freedom that our forefathers, fathers, brothers, husbands, and loved ones fought so hard for and that which we PUMAs must now protect.

Thank you Murphy, MarylandPuma, and all of you Pumas who have made this 4th of July very special for America!!

Happy 4th to all Pumas! I just donated 20.04 through ClintonsDems site.
This is a great day to growl our independents from a party that ignored us, turned their backs on us and selected the nominee against the will of the people.

“Hillary 08″
Make it happen!
Puma

Happy Independence Day Pumas!!

#59 utahpuma–Wow, that is an amazing idea. Did you send that idea to the Action Center? Great job.

Bigcatlover:

I suppose each individual case is different. Like with a mind no two bodies are alike.

Unless you’re already acclimated to the weather in the migh high city newcomers will have to adjust by taking precautions. Just depends on each person’s system as to what they will be.

It’s always a good idea to be prepared. I was a boy scout and know that to be true.

nh4hillary….you write such great things. I hope you are collecting them. They would make a great book!

I just checked the Greta site and brought this post back, thought you might want to read the last line.

Comment by in PA
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
“As for Rendell, I want to know how he can support a guy who is obviously a crook and and idiot.”

They have something in common?

Greta: GREAT THREAD

I’m not a PUMA, I’m a McCain Republican, but I have to say if it came down to a vote between Hillary and McCain, and McCain lost, I’d feel safer having Hillary as CIC than having Obama at the helm.

The only Democrat vote I have cast in recent memory has been for Judge Seamus, PA Supreme Court. Many of our state’s republicans voted for him, that’s how he won. (this is by way of establishing my Republican creds). During the course of the Dem primary I became more and more astonished at how shabbily HRC was treated, by MSM and her own party’s leadership. I am in contact with more than a few rock rib Republicans, and I have to tell you many of them were equally shocked.

In short, I do believe the PUMA organization has a legitimate grievance.

thoughts…I’ve been thinking about why I am so passionate about this whole thing. Bear with me while I vent.
I was so pissed off at the Bush debocle (sp?), that I stopped voting. If my vote was not going to count, why bother? Well, I came out of the closet (the voting one), and voted for Hillary. I was so excited to see that we could possibly have someone in that high office, that could accomplish some good. Including voter reform, which Hillary was working to fix.
I early voted here in Texas, on day one. Weeks later, we went to attempt the caucas vote. Myself, my partner, (who early voted, with her 9 year old son actually pushing the button next to Hillary’s name)and her 11 year old son with Autism. We stood in line, after official voting was done, for over an hour. After they finally figured out what they needed to do, they starting filing us inside. Signing forms, ok, pads of paper, then we had to wait. For everyone to get signed in before we could start the process. Ok, now mind you, its now after 8:30 pm and we have two kids taking TAKS tests in the morning. We gave up, after a while, and left. The kids needed good nights rest for the test and we’ve just had them standing in line for over 3 hours total, at this point. As we left, we passed a line of people, still needing to sign in, that was over 200 more people long! So in effect, a lot of us, gave up, for one reason or another. So yes, Hillary had the popular vote in this state. And BO had the caucus vote. Who knows what the caucus vote would have been, if everyone could have been a part of it.
So now, I’m feeling again, my vote didn’t count. Just like 8 years ago. 8 years ago, my sister-in-law was a huge follower of the NoBushZone coalition. And I thought she was whacked. She went to the debates, she drove to DC to march…3 times. I thought she was whacked. She was so passionate about voter reform, and getting Bush impeached. OMG, I thought she was whacked.
Well, now I’m trying to talk my partner into letting me go to Denver. I have bumpers on my car, I plan to have more. I’m sending letters to my neighbors, emails to delegates, senators, etc, jumpin on this blog every chance I get. I must be whacked! I am whacked. No, I’m just finally tired of the system that doesn’t seem to work for the people. My ancestors led Washington into Trenton, on the night the Hessians were defeated. They fought in the Revolutionary war, they helped house, feed and gave medical attention to those in need during the war. The war that gave me the freedom I now enjoy. The freedom I was willing to fight and die for years ago, while I was in the military. The freedom, I hope the boys in my care will be able to enjoy and be proud of. The freedom to feel my vote counts.
I don’t feel that way right now. I’m not proud of my leaders. I’m not proud of how they act, acted and continue to act, while representing me.
I am proud to be a PUMA. I am very proud to be in this fight with the rest of you PUMAs.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/04/all-is-not-well-in-the-kingdom-of-obama/

Any word out of Bill Clinton lately?

@74 I know I wish she would take Paypal would be so much simpler- -There is a paypal plug in though that you can download on Paypal, so you can use it on any site- It will pull up a secure card for you to use on the site, and it should work w/ your card, if you originally gave Paypal the security code. hth

Morning Pumas, it’s really hard to keep up with all that is going on, so much lol. Happy 4th to all, and I’m so glad to see all that is going on. We’re going to Denver damn. Donated my $20.08 to Hillary, I haven’t done the last action that was emailed yet but I will. Murphy GREAT JOB. Hopefully I will have some new members signing up from NJ and AZ. Woo hoo keep up the good work everyone.

Finally got Hillary’s debt, buses to Denver, and McCain’s contribution. Sure feels liberating!!!

PUMA Allie, I do post here and I am proud to have you quote me. Thank you for helping get the message out.

I’ve already given my $20.08 and I made the decision today that I WILL get to that Convention, come hell of high water.

It’s a great day to be a PUMA.

#73 DawnE. I hear you with the Texas caucus situation. I also did the early voting thing. Unfortunately I was teaching a class on Tuesday and Thursday evenings at a local community college. I had asked permission to cancel class on that Tuesday night or have a substitute so that I could attend the caucus. Of course I was told no. Less than 1/4 of my class showed up that evening as they all went to their caucus locations. Most of my students were AA. I felt totally helpless. This caucus thing is a total sham as it excludes too many people from participating. I am still so annoyed that I was prevented from casting my full vote. So while those people in Floriday feel that they are only 1/2 a person. I feel that I am only 2/3 a person since that is all my vote was worth. If it is the last thing on the face of this earth I do, I’ll make sure that in the future my vote is FULLY counted.

I’ll be going to McVote in the fall since the DNC says I can’t have it my way! I’ll show them! Go Hillary! I hope my $20.08 helps give you INDEPENDENCE!!!!

Muchado send yours to murphy too

#32 prplvette85 on 07.04.08 at 10:56 am, WROTE,

[[ Just a suggestion : We should get a master list of cell phone numbers for all PUMAS and have ground coordinator or a team so that we can keep up with meet up sites etc. Some of us will be in Denver prior to others. We need a way to keep track of each other. Just a thought]]

I can’t go but the above is a good thought. Maybe you folks can *assign* one know-it-all coordinator and place that person’s cellphone number on EVERYONE’s LIST. Then, perhaps you could break up into smaller cell phone CELLS (like al queda), groups of 5 each… and each responsive to the leader/coordinator.

Taffy Thank you fellow PUMA!
Good idea.

I’ve sent my $20.08 to help pay down Hill’s debt and it feels so gooood—Happy Independence Day Hillary! As soon as I can a check will be in the mail towards the buses to Denver.

Happy 4th of July!

bmw60 #70

Thanks for the quote! I added it as Quote of the Day.

#73 DawnE- Touching post. I too am in Texas and had similar problems.

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Puma Denver email sent to list + more

thanks for the email

Happy Independence Day to all of you patriots!

I am a little confused about the e-mail I received from Murphy, i.e. what letter do I cut and past and send to her list? Also, I’d like to go to the convention, but don’t know where everyone is staying. Can someone fill me in?

Are there any other PUMAS that would like to camp? I have tons of camping gear (thanks to my ex!) I can call and reserve some spaces for us.

Murphy can there be a bus that would take us back and forth from the campground?

Wear Hats
Bring Sun Block Lotion
Bring Water
Bring oranges for diabetics

I agree stella49-if we go to Dener – PUMAS should be all together as much as possible. Strength in numbers

Oh fantastic! SO far I have 9 clicks to Hillary’s contribution page on my blog. Hopefully that’s nine more people that donated at least $20.08!

NomoreinFL,

I am working on arranging something with a friend, but if that fails, I am absolutely interested in camping. I have gear too. And I camping experience. My e-mail is peacocksandlilies AT gmail DOT com.

#100 mcr, I got the same thing this morning in my e-mail and did the same as you and added the comment
“I will NOT vote for Obama”

$20.08 donation complete. Happy Independence Day all PUMAs!

I listened to some of both radio broadcasts from last night and the night before- And I find it interesting how much more articulate PUMAs ( a diverse group in education, class, circumstances etc) compared to the Obamabots who spew “He’s Da Man” and other meaningless stuff when interviewed- Of course why is this surprising seeing the empty slogans and promises Obama camp runs on?….good job Murphy and all PUMAs – -

@73 that is outrageous you had to experience that

I made my donation. I hope PUMAs all over the States are able to set her free, today.

Murphy, I listened to the first 30 minutes of last night’s online interview. Thank you so much for addressing the accusations that are coming out of those who are running scared from the PUMA PAC(k). You did an excellent job.

morning anti…..sherry is here but she’s lurking again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgsZOxOwlo

#94 Utahpuma,
Great idea. I love it!

#824 StarDust

You forget, Obama’s supporters are largely college-educated, while Hillary’s supporters are not. Hence the glaring disparity in the quality of our posts.

My sarcasm is showing this morning.

#125 Taffy- Good Morning. Actually I have been emailing Marylandpuma with some ideas to coordinate the Denver protest. The info is so spread out and when new pumas come in that want to go it is hard to get all the info for them. Any ideas?

1 voice nobody except hillary (and probably Bill, Chelsea, and her mother) really know Hillary’s plans. Interesting that bb hasn’t been parading her like he said he would. Hmmmm

#130 Stella49- I’m trying to get some answers for you.

I’ve said from the moment “the annointed one” was shoved into his current (hopefully temporary) position, that we needed to stage a modern day Boston Tea Party. I immediately sent an email out to my contacts list stating such – suggesting we all take action to ensure our country is safe from his brand of politics. At the time I didn’t know what to do… it just had to be done. Thanks for being a major catalyst in bringing this plan of action all together. Imagine how the the history texts will read 20 or 30 years from now. Our children’s children will be able to say, “I know someone who was there!”

Our founding fathers were brilliant in penning these words that were not only applicable then, but were destined to transcend time and events to shine a guiding light for the preservation of this great democracy. THANKS for posting them today!

All that’s necessary for the triumph of evil is that good
men do nothing. –Edmund Burke

When I click on mrphy@pumapac.org, my mail is returned. Anyone know why?

stella you left out “u” in murphy

Oh……thanks.

This just in!!!

OBAMA WANTS TO APPEAR AT THE MILE HIGH STADIUM (BRONCOS) IN DENVER, RATHER THAN CONVENTION CENTER.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/04/obama-may-accept-nomination-at-nfl-stadium/#comment-1327470

HIS EGO IS SO BIG, HE NEEDS AN EXTRA 50,000 SEATS.

THIS IS CLEARLY A WAY TO AVOID PUMAS AND HILLARY PROTESTERS. I AM SURE THAT WITH 50,000 EXTRA SEATS, NONE OF US WILL BE ADMITTED.

Do you think it is wise to notify media ahead of time of our plans? I’m just saying the best defense is a great offense. You don’t realize that they could sabotage us as far as lodging, permits, police presence etc. I think we should plan between ourselves, put the plan into action, then notify press etc. They will just be waiting to throw us in that cage. Got to act like a PUMA and strike when they least expect.

stella, you spelled my name wrong! sniff.

it’s murphy

thanks!

p.s. light posting today as I will be reintroducing myself to my family a bit today and tomorrow.

Happy 4th Everyone!

DENVER UPDATE POSTED AT THE TOP OF THE POST.

PLEASE READ AND RETURN HERE!

MP — checking now!

Just donated againg to Hillary’s campaign, this time to retire her debt. Love and respect you Hillary.!!!

I got an email from the Obama campaign. I don’t know where they got my address from, but no matter; I replied to unsubscribe and told them I cannot, in good conscience, support an unready candidate or the party who ran out the more qualified candidate. I’ve gotten some paper mailings from them and the DNC, too, asking for contributions. To each one I replied with a photograph of my hand holding my voter’s registration form indicating “No Party”, and I wrote the same message on the back of the photo that I sent to the the Obama campaign this morning. I also include the URL of this blog, in case there are disaffected Democrats working the campaign who don’t know where to go and think they have no other options but to “fall in line”.

Thanks for the reply taffy. I am holding out hope that she will stand up and shock everyone that day!

There are some people that are saying that she will be our next President and have NO doubts about it. No matter what happens-history will eventually tell the truth about the corruption in our Democratic Party.

I am sooooo proud of everyone that is standing up for what they believe! I am usually the outcast for doing that-this is great. Feels good to have company!

******* On the DENVER TRIP ************

We are in the beginning planning stages. We will provide bus transportation from select major transportation hubs across the US. At this point, accomodations and transportation to the bus pickup point is the responsibility of the individual PUMAs.

All other details are in the works. We must assess fundraising efforts in order to assess what we can do.

So………DONATE!

Details will be released to all PUMA members via email.

REMEMBER, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM.

PLEASE DO NOT discuss details on the blog – for obvious reasons. Use private IMs, Chats, or email to discuss amongst yourselves any details.

Any questions or suggestions – please contact me via email. You should know the edress by now. LOL

Carry on Warrior PUMAs.

Wonder if Fred can get some confetti made up with Hillary on it?

John McCain campaign is buzzing with donations from Hillary supporters come on folks lets give the DNC something to talk about..donate $5.44 or more just include .44 at the end don’t tell us we are FALLING in line
https://www.johnmccain.com/Contribute/ContributeB.aspx

maybe, if someone gets a room, put out an email if you want roomies to help split costs and everyone go from there?

#164 continued… Forget the action center idea for details on Denver trip per Marylandpuma due to this being an open forum. I think we still need organizer but info must be exchanged through emails and ims.

MURPHY: Thank you for putting that quote up there… wowo, but I must give credit where credit is due… thank you post #36 lotts1948 for first introducing this in the thread.. I just took it and ran with it… sent it off to news orgs and politicians, dnc, etc…

#103….. TO ADD TO YOUR EMAIL ADDIE LIST:

loudobbs@cnn.com

Happy Birthday America!
I, like so many of you, will be very busy today but I wanted to ask a question and I will check back later tonight to see if someone can answer.
In light of the fact that Hillary has removed *61 from her website and in light of the fact that we are doing everything we can to pay down her debt – how do you interpret this hint from her 60th birthday party?
Quoting from the clintondems website:

“A roar of applause greeted the Clintons as they entered the venerable theater to the strains of The Who’s “I’m Free.”

Can someone find the words to this song? I don’t think it’s mere happenstance that they chose to play it!
Following the post about Hillary’s birthday party and the celebrities in attendance is a poll about who should be Hillary’s third party spokesperson to get behind her and push for her nomination at the convention. I say BILL, obviously! Let’s let him know how much we appreciate him and support them both!
Grrowl PUMA PAC!

I really didn’t like Donna Brazilles response to fellow PUMA e-mails, telling them to STOP THE HATE. But today I reconsidered what she had to say and made a donation towards that effort on her behalf to John McCain. Now I will e-mail her and let her know…that she can stop the hate. $5.44

#170 Antifish – Good morning. I have been emailing Marylandpuma with some ideas and also tried to find some answers for some new pumas. I need to get some personal work done today so may be offline for awhile but will be in and out during the day.

IMPORTANT. I just added a note to the DENVER UPDATE. Please INCLUDE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER in your “gotodenver” email. This is a safety and organization precaution. We would only call you if necessary.

thanks!

Also, just some feedback on the caucus fraud and voter intimidation inquiry taking place in Austin next Monday. I can’t go but I hope that many do. If you have a story to tell (I told mine ) it’s best to send it in an email to drlynettelong@aol.com.
After I filled out my information and posted my comments to the Texas Democratic Party website ( and my comments were very much pro-Hillary) I received an email asking me to volunteer to canvas my neighborhood and solicit five friends to campaign for Obama. Aaugh!
Infuriating!

heck, just send the donation in Godzilla’s name. That would be a hoot.

Probably illegal tho.

Forward the GROWL to all your friends and family – let’s give her the INDEPENDENCE from the ties that bind.

It’s a glorious new day.

Action idea!

Please mail or e-mail the Declaration of Objections to Gov. Rendell’s office.

Governor Edward G. Rendell’s Office
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120

http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html

Just found this YouTube with beautiful pictures of Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea. And it’s marked as PUMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpBbGWvSf4&feature=user

PUMAS –

I think we owe a HUGE puma hi-five to MamaPumaMass, who has been working her PUMA tail to a nub getting membership at PUMA PAC organized, automated, and accurate, as well as getting messages out to ALL PUMAs. She stepped up and took on this MONUMENTAL task without being asked to.

HIGH PAW PAT to MAMAPUMAMASS!

And another great one I hadn’t seen. Has a lot of her last speech in it as well as pictures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4p0t_PnjVs&feature=related

Virtual high-paw for MamaPumaMass!

The Who – I’m Free

I’M FREE-I’m free,
And freedom tastes of reality,
I’m free-I’m free,
AN’ I’m waiting for you to follow me.

If I told you what it takes
to reach the highest high,
You’d laugh and say ‘nothing’s that simple’
But you’ve been told many times before
Messiahs pointed to the door
And no one had the guts to leave the temple!

I’m free-I’m free
And freedom tastes of reality

I’m free-I’m free
And I’m waiting for you to follow me.

Chorus:

How can we follow?
How can we follow?

Hi PUMAs

Just wanted to let you know about this new group of HBOs supporters, who now don’t want to donate or help him at all. We should get in touch with them and make them feel welcome. What do you think? Here’s a link to the story.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5299337&page=1

I’ll be back later.

Sent my PUMA emails yesterday, as well as a handwritten note of support to Bill Clinton, and a letter to one of my state’s superdelegates.My teens agreed to forego buying fireworks to donate $20.08 to retire Hillary’s debt. We agreed that it was a cool way to celebrate Independence Day and to be patriots.

I had an interesting discussion with the young staffer at my Congressional rep’s (i.e. superdelegate) office the other day. I try to remember that these staffers tend to be idealistic college kids who could be open to hearing the “other side” if it’s explained respectfully to them. This particular young man agreed with me that it’s troubling that BO didn’t debate in the later part of the primaries and agreed that the whole role of “superdelegates” in chosing the nominee is a troubling one that opens up the process for pressure and abuses. I think my congressional rep is a generally good guy who must’ve succumbed to pressure from above, and it sounds like other constituents have called in to complain too. I see these conversations as planting little seeds that hopefully will grow like weeds.

My teens agreed to forego buying fireworks this year so I could afford another donation to retire Hillary’s debt. $20.08 sent right after midnight on July 4. As hard as these events have been, it’s been a great opportunity for my kids to recognize problems in the political system and to think about what patriotism is truly about.

Thanks PUMAS. Happy Independence Day!

MamaPumaMass,

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you do for the Pumas. High Five to ya!!!

Hi guy’s just sent Declaration Objections to all news media and sent $20.08 to help free Hill. Hope you guy’s have a great 4th. # 85 Annabellep, thank you for the use of you eloquent words.

Big High-Five Paw to MamaPumaMass!!

#205 antifish
Have not been on here since early yesterday evening…so nice to see you on here.
Remember we have a plan to get our messages on 360
Hope you are having a great 4th!

Nice to see goanderson too!

# 206–the Objections and Resolutions are the best part. The other part is not very original, but very effective for reminding us of our common roots at the right time, when we are all thinking about it anyway on the 4th of July!

Off to a PUMA friendly bbq. Everyone, have a fabulous day.

Did I see you antifish? Hey, big puma paw hug to you.

I’m IN

Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 1:20 PM EDT
Contact: (deleted)
Amount: $20.08

I have contributed to pay down the debt -$20.08 and to the Denver trip.

Go PUMA!!

#213 – annabelle! hey. I loved your posts and your blog.

I have been anticipating this day for so long now. This is the day we Celebrate our Freedom and this is the day we give Hillary back her Freedom. I could care less about the hot dogs and parades and festivities today, it’s all about the debt and Hillary’s chance to really shine in Denver. It is our way of saying, so you think we’re gone huh……

I am headed over to Hillary’s page right now to give my 20.08. Then this evening, I’m going to do it again, just to make sure we get her out of the hole. Anyone want to join me by doing it again tonight? Please post it on any other blogs you go to today as well.

So, make your donation in the morning, enjoy the Fourth and tonight before you go to bed, light a candle and donate another $20.08.

Happy 4th everybody.

OK emails sent. I’ll try to find the cash for donations here in a few.

Special love to MommapumaMass and MarylandPuma for keepin us all in the loop.

What are we supposed to send today?

Dear Pumas,

Never despair about getting emails or solicitations for donations from the Obama camp or the DNC.

I love getting that stuff. It’s always a good excuse to reply with “Dream on” … or more explicit messages.

After all, I think I owe them the courtesy of letting them know I gave due consideration to their kind invitation to be included in such an important movement in our country’s history. And I wouldn’t want to be impolite by not responding.

Besides, it’s so thoughtful of them to let me know what they’re up to. That way I can pass on any meaningful information to my fellow Pumas.

Hey I tried donating to the busses from the link on the action page, but I’m getting a page not found error…. eeesh help I can’t give much, but if I can’t get in I can’t give at all……

# 196 jbjd – awesome post. when you have time, would you share info on Mr. Obama with me via email at dragonflypuma@gmail.com? I am trying to finish a letter to Al Gore, which is becoming a position paper of sorts with all kinds of sources to support the points I am making. My goal is to have this letter approved to be a PUMA pac action so that we can all urge Mr. Gore to support Senator Clinton.

Thanks -
Dragonfly Rodham Puma

Happy Birthday America & Happy 4th Pumas – I made my donation of 20.08 to Hillary on Tuesday – even tho not sure about voting for McCain – just made my 5.44 donation to him – referred by Obama, Dean, Pelosi & Brazille – will donate for PUMAPac ads & Denver bus trip next week – no bus for Minneapolis? – Welcome back antifish & goanderson – missed your wit

#230 gocleffnote – agreed! If Hillary is not our nominee, I will contribute to McCain. Not before.

Rock on PUMAs! Hey Firebelle Hey Maryland Puma!

When I try to e-mail Murphy at Murphy@pumapac.org my mail comes back to me. What is wrong?

Susie1945 – hey girl! Glad to see you.

Stella49

Not sure. I’ve not had problems with it today. Something I can help with?

I am hoping that there will not be any more blogs created. We need to focus our energies rather than dispursing them. Multiple sites dilutes our influence.

Regarding contributions to McCain. I’m not there.
May send a another contribution to Nader though.
It’s not always about winning, it’s also about raising issues.

Sent contribution to retire Hill’s debt. I wish we could get an updated figure on how much PUMA supporters has contributed. I’ll bet we’re making a dent.

Responce to ABC’s article about Obama supporters being upset about “centrist” views
Obama says that we should “Believe in Change’. So far the only change I’ve seen is him changing his mind every other week. Now we see him as he really is. Well, Obama, I am not your sweetie and you can “Keep the Change”!

Re: Denver – there was a excellent post regarding schools/colleges and using their dorms. That is definately worth looking into. Most places are more than happy to rent out their facilities and make a little money as well as keeping the sites occupied. Hope someone follows up on this.

Well done to whoever put the picture of Hillary together on the Growl. Very nice artwork.

Faxed Declaration of Objections to Obama’s office. I tried Rendell’s office and it stopped in the middle, don’t know if someone turned off the fax machine. Surely, no one is there. I’ll try again.

#232 Maryland PUMA

Can I send all me e-mails from people expecting me to do work today? I find those most offensive of all

#181 murphy on 07.04.08 at 12:47 pm, WROTE

[[ IMPORTANT. I just added a note to the DENVER UPDATE. Please INCLUDE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER in your “gotodenver” email. This is a safety and organization precaution. We would only call you if necessary.

thanks!]]

************

Perhaps too… if anyone has a prior medical condition the Denver COORDINATOR should know that info also… in case that person passes out from heat or is not able to talk for themselves. Those around them should be aware of their condition to summond immediate help. I am especially thinking here of diabetics or those with high blood pressure, for example. And also a phone number of a family member or doctor etc.

I am also thinking,

You should put out a FORM with all the pertainent info for PUMA members to fill in… and perhaps a PUMA PAC disclaimer:

Make sure the bus companies are insured also.

I sent my letter to Donna Brazille.

Dear Donna,

I’ve heard that you have not been very nice with your accustions of hate directed toward the PUMAS. I think that you may have an anger management problem. In an effort to help you to control your anger and to help you to STOP THE HATE, the only solution I could come up with was an intervention:

I know you will be pleased to know that this morning, the 4th of July, I made a donation on your behalf to the John McCain for President campaign. Doesn’t it cleanse your soul to support the only “elected” nominee in the Presidential race? Since you “think” that PUMAS are Republicans, you should be elated to know that I also donated $20.08 to Hillary Clinton to help retire her debt…hmmmm why would I do that?

Sincerely,

I wanted to vote for Hillary in the general election and I can’t vote for your “selected” nominee. It would not be “ETHICAL” or show good “JUDGMENT” on my part. It would be an INSULT TO DEMOCRACY…there’s still time to change!

xxxxxxxx in New Hampshire

#176 cosmeta all I can tell you is this is the same reply I got when I donated to her campign on June 3rd. So either they haven’t updated it or don’t plan too????

Well we saw Nobama flip on Iraq yesterday. He made a speech then a few hours later was correcting his speech( kind of like michele not meaning for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country) only he blamed his words on senator McCain for priming the press.The announcer commented that he was doing alot of “flipflopping’ lately(DUH) I love it! I knew the true Nobama would surface but I did’nt know it would be so soon. Also on Hannity and Colmes , Karl Rove said : Obama is Untethered and Unanchored! He also said that Obama said something when he was campaigning (I can’t remember what it was) and he has flipped on that and Karl could not understand why McCain’s campaign was not all over it. I heard so much about his deceitful self yesterday I can’t sort it all out.

voter fraud,

YouTube Search

http://www.youtube.com/results?q=voter+fraud&search_type=

jbjd #196

Wow, what a great story! Like you, I am collecting information to respond to *61’s people. I’m off to July 4th activities. However, when I return I’m getting back to my PUMA duties.

Happy Fourth of July to all our PUMAs!!!

#249 TrishfromCanada

Thanks.

!186 VA it was turned over to viacom. said because of copyright infringement, specifically south park and one other. don’t know what’s being done yet. But from what i understand they could go in and see all videos you’ve viewed. Big Brother at work! Aloha had all her videos scrubbed. People yesterday were saying some anti bb (big britches) videos are slowly going away and the discussion was how to capture some before they were gone.

#176 Cosmeta I got the same reply; however, when I donated, there was a statement there that said this contribution was to be used only to retire her debt.

for those interested in checking out Nader (who is very vocal against Obama’s hypocrisy), his website is http://www.votenader.org

#266 goandersen

It is I. Just got back from lunch and it is very hot outside. I wish we were allowed to wear shorts and a tee to work, but when I recommended it to my boss he screwed up his face and said “uhmmm are you nuts” I took that as a maybe, ask me again later.

#272 UtahPuma Thanks, I forgot about Dogpile. I was doing it the hard way.

Anyone know how much has already been raised toward Hillary’s debt?

#243 Dragonfly – thx – have been around – just not commenting too much – been checking other blog sites – too many to read all – also have been getting emails about meet up peeps here in the Twin Cities & free_me_now & women for fair politics – would love to go to Denver again – (advice – drink lots of water – helps the altitude sickness) – still have time to decide – looks like chicago is nearest bus point but that’s going east to go west – feels like *61 tactic – anyway, still here just being a little quiet – least til something pushes my button………………………

#281 Susie 1845
I was over checking out gretawire and came across this interesting but nothing I did not think would happen….the Chosen One is not what his ppl thought or think?
_____________________________________________
Comment by Will Chalker
July 4th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
IT BEGINS- Frustrated Obama supporters begin questioning their own candidate.

from a pro obama site

SkinnyMinnie July 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm

Obama wasn’t my first choice, but as the primary campaign progressed, he grew on me (mostly by treating the electorate as grown-ups instead of fearful children).

Now, I want a do-over. The FISA capitulation was bad enough, but now he’s walking back his commitment to get out of Iraq? What is wrong with him? Did someone kidnap David Plouffe and replace him with Mark Penn?

barbara July 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm

“And as Obama decides to be all things to all people, and nothing to anyone…”

And thereby hangs the tale. Because I expected integrity from Barack Obama. I expected at the very least that he would be a fierce defender of the Constitution. Remember the “taught constitutional law” meme? He had my loyalty (okay, trickle down loyalty from Gore and then Edwards) and he has some of my money. There will be no more money (he doesn’t need it — he can afford to cover Hillary’s losses) and the loyalty thing is in limbo. And I’m a staunch Dem.

This is not looking good.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support stops till Barack Obama keeps his word on key issues – fans

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/07/03/2008-07-03_support_stops_till_barack_obama_keeps_hi-2.html

#282 – goandersen – now they’re called gaucho pants – and are just as ugly………………..

interesting article on noquarterusa.net –NY Times editorial board not happy with S. Obama

Happy Independence Day felllow PUMAS!

For some reason, today the old song “Born Free” came to mind and I found this YouTube of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRXNmMkfI0

I donated to Hillary:
Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
Amount: $20.08

I sent the e-mails to politicians/media.

If you have not checked out the site for custom tees, please do (all proceeds pledged to pumapac):

http://218467.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/

If you have any ideas/suggestions for designs my e-mail is listed as contact on our action site!

KEEP GROWLING PUMAS!

McCain couldn’t beat Hillary with all the money in the world . Hillary has gained respect from millions of conservative that were waiting to cast their votes for her in the GE…If McCain ran un-oppose he would lose the only way McCain could win if he runs against Obama. Donating to McCain will not hurt Hillary’s chances it will improve them the DNC will see we are not bluffing…$5.44 is a reasonable amount to send a wake up call to the DNC..IMO

#230 gocleff the point is to donate a small amount 5.44 so DNC can see we CAN have an effect. we are not donating up to the 2300 limit.

{PumaResponders} Response item and useful info: “obama-backlash-in-his-online-backyard”

Comment string with form, 366 comments:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/obama-backlash-in-his-online-backyard/#respond

Obama Voters Protest His Switch on Telecom Immunity
By JAMES RISEN
Published: July 2, 2008
WASHINGTON — Senator Barack Obama’s decision to support legislation
granting legal immunity to telecommunications companies that
cooperated with the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping
without warrants has led to an intense backlash among some of his most
ardent supporters.
————
If you’d like to be added to the pumaresponders email list, pls email 1950democrat/at/gmail/com

Dear Pumas,

I have an admission this morning. You know those solicitations I’ve been getting from Obama and the DNC? Well, they really feed my ego. Every time I get one, I feel that somebody wants me … or at least my money.

My therapist says it’s good for me. I have this strong need to feel wanted. To feel like I belong. To feel like I have something to contribute in this sometimes overwhelming world of ours.

And I can’t tell you how much it fills me with pride to know that the anointed one emails me so frequently. I mean, I just feel so *special*.

Whoever thought that such an unpopular kid would grow up to be sought out by the likes of Obama, Dean, and Brazile. I can’t wait to show all those kids who teased me in school how important and respected I’ve become.

Gosh, I’m just so giddy this morning.

I am also continuing to support Hillary Clinton for President in 2008. However, unless the right and just thing occurs at the Denver convention Senator Clinton will not be running. I am seriously looking at Ralph Nader’s candidacy. I have always admired him. Might be worth a gander for those that do not wish to vote for S. McCain http://www.votenader.org

I have to tell you about an experience I had yesterday when I went to gas up my car for the weekend.
As I pulled up to the pump a rather large man was standing next to his oversized SUV as his tank was being filled. I have PUMA logos on my rear windows
and some Green Party Bumper stickers. He walked over , read them, and commented: “PUMA huh. You’re not very smart.” I pointed to my car ( which is a Prius and had a full tank by then ) and responded, ” over 50 mgh. I’m pretty smart.” I then drove off and left him still waiting for his tank to fill.

I sent the Declaration of Objections to a bunch of people on my e-mail list. Two friends told me to take them off my list as they did not share my political views. Still waiting for the rest. I just can’t believe how many people are STUPID!! That’s how Bush got elected and and those who voted for him are now saying they made a mistake. Same for Nobambi, he’s a big mistake.

oops, up those buses

For me it’s Hillary in 2008! There is no other period!

Was going to give $5.44 to McCain just to have the $$ show he got more than *61 but then this big PUMA Angel with a came out of nowhere, smacked me on the side of the head and said, “Have faith, Believe and It Will Be!”

So now every moment I keep “Knocking on Heaven’s Door!” I am a humble month old PUMA!

NoMoreInFL Rodham PUMA

#263 Cosmeta: Re: voter fraud I live in Indiana and although Hillary won Indiana 50.7%-Nobama 49.3% she was far ahead of him until Lake county (which is 35 minutes from the heart of neighboring Chicago) came in but the results were so late that the news did’nt have them until early morning hours after the primary a lot of people thought something was not right the mayor of Lake County came on the air waves protesting You will get the count when I get them we have a lot of paper it takes time so Lake co. was Nobama 56% Clinton 44%. In the Southern counties Hillary was far ahead (ex.) 56%-44% , 69%-31%, 59%41% this was all thru the Southern counties .So my point being Yes I believe it is possible to have voter fraud. I read a quote the other day I don’t remember who said it but it went like this:The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything.Now that is sad.

#301 MadLogic

Really? You think I’m special? Even though I’m a poor, misguided Puma who can’t support the anointed one?

Happy 4th of July everyone.

I just got pulled in yesterday Denver signage.. I am not so involved in Denver besides reading what is going on.
I can’t go because of business in Vegas but trying to see if I can get a flight and sneak off for a day or two.

Murphy has mentioned instead of stiff signs or banners, lets go with the vinyl pin on “sign”(12 x 12 inches white vinyl with red or blue text or any color text ) so that it can be used for shade, waterproof and best of all you can pin with safety pin and unpin it to hold up as a banner if you want. Don’t have to smuggle as you would a card sign or banner. I think it is a good idea and was working till 3 am – getting a quote. Really good quote for a lot of qty.

They asked for a sample to print out to show us but I drew a blank.. Murphy threw out a few that was OK but I would like some other suggestions. Please bear in mind it has to be legible from far, have impact and not nasty – you will be wearing it on your T-shirt.
So far, I have the few below. The ones for PUMA will have logo but in order to print 5,000 – 10,000 to get a great price, we can share with other like minded sites but I don’t know how that can be coordinated. We can also use left over for November. But If only for group going to Denver, then we can print it locally depending on qty needed. I think having other website/blog members wear this uniform “sign” will show unity among us.They can always write in who they “belong” to. i hate to belabor this banner issue but I would love some imput.

Zee from yesterdays blog mentioned yellow police type tape tied as a sash. I think it is impractical .

NO THIEF FOR CHIEF – submitted by Fello PUMA
VOICE OF THE VOTERS!
SELECTED NOT ELECTED!
The circle with slash in red with OBAMA (my suggestion)

I received an email from McCain asking for a donation and a comment on what I thought of NoNames emerging changes. I said ” he was a natural born arrogant self serving idiot with a Harvard degree. What more can I say!!”
Then I donated $10.08 I like to cover all of my bases.

goandersen…This morning my partner of 22 years gave me two birthday cards, a big pot of zennias for the lanai, and a cartoon cut out of the newspaper about post turtle…it goes like thislllll

” This is a news alert with breaking news on Obama!” (the pix is of a group of MSM, the guy with microphone says ” GASP! This is HUGE, He’s tying his own shoes!!!” (of course there is a not so pretty likeness of the post turtle tying his shoes!) Thought you’d get a hoot out of this one!
I’m off to donate my $20.08.
BE BACK. glad to see you and anti back where ya belong!

Wow, Fred, thanks for all your hard work! On this and other things.

I vote for “VOICE OF THE VOTERS” as I think it best states our purpose, and we are trying to get that msg out there!

316 SusyT
LOL! Wish I could see it!

thanks

Maryland Puma – Murphy was asking if PA4HILL08 got my poster(flyer) uploaded…

I don’t know PA4Hill’s email. IF you have it, pls ask her to email or perhaps you can forward it to her to put it online. Becca Puma emailed me to say sh is printing it out to hand out in Orlando today. She is doing it herself so I told her to be careful.. We should give her a round of applause.

#251 ladyhawke! You faxed it to Obama’s OFFICE? You are MY NEW HERO!!!!!

June 30-July 2 Gallup Poll Daily tracking results:
47% (Obama) to 43%

Fox news today:

Obama to campaign at Nascar Race

Someone need’s to ask him how that worked out for Bill Lester!

#316 SusyT,

Hey there. It’s good to be back!

275 TrishfromCanada

lol ok see I remember gauchos but not coolots. I remember when I was a kid my oldest sister had a holly hobby pantsuit, lol laughing here thinking of that

“I joined PUMApac today, and sent in a contribution. Thanks for lighting the way! -kw”

Letting people know about PUMA works.

#131 MariainNJ,

Thanks for the help in retiring Hill’s debt. Don’t be such a stranger in the future.

Is there a way we could get to see or know all that is happening at convention would be so super. I want to go but cannt.Dr. said no so you guys will have to be our eyes and ears.

Murphy, several PUMA’s have requested information about how best to respond to talking points from supporters of Senator Obama including the DNC leadership. I want to volunteer as a source of rebuttals for the common objection to the PUMA stance that the DNC should apportion delegates from Florida and Michigan to the candidates as voted, which objection often is based on an argument referencing the “rules.” My experience shows that if I can dislodge even one bedrock stance, eventually, the rest just naturally give way.

#327 Taffy

Thanks. Yes, my sarcastic soul is emerging again today. Must be the anticipation of seeing an old flame this afternoon.

No, I haven’t heard from SunnyPA lately. But she told me she would be out of town until July 6.

ditto on #318 & #319 or “Yes to Popular Vote”

Part Two
Michigan – Ficano – Rfiscano@co.wayne.mi.us
Brewer – mbrewer@mi-democrats.com

Hawaii – Port – portr001@hawaii.rr.com
Abercrombie – neil.abercrombie@mail.house.gov – use zip code 96701 in text
Withington – jeaniwithingon@aol.com

Texas – Hardt – dhardt@advancedartusa.com

Florida – Hastings – info@alceeforcongress.com
Martinez – raul@martinezfernandezpr.com

R. Island – Fowler – don@fowlercommunications.com

Pa – Kanjorski – vote@kanjorski.org

New Mexico – Sanchez – rgslaw1@qwest.net

Washington – Sims – ronsims@comcast.net

That will do it – thanks everyone.

Alucard Rodham Puma

FRED
I’ve downloaded your and your husband’s great poster with the intention of resizing and printing for distribution.
What size is the original in inches?
Thanks again for your great work!

#333 k in the northwest
Let’s stay in touch–I’m from the central Oregon coast. There is another group (18 Million March) from the Portland area organizing a Denver trip that I’ve contacted. We may be able to get on their bus.

#339 Taffy,

That’s what I’m hoping. It wouldn’t make sense for me to go to Jacksonville to catch the bus. It’s five hours out of the way.

Just checking in to see if I can post at this site. I posted last night but never saw my post go through. Was looking for people from Hillaryclinton.com. There were some familiar names here last night.

#354 gay gal

Hi gaygal I think I remember you form over there, I was DoTheMath

354 gay gal
Hey girl! Love your artwork!

by have a great day all Happy 4th

Just ordered a red PUMA shirt..how long does it take to get them? Anyone know???? Also…I’m looking for PUMAs in Jacksonville…are there any here today?

“Thought for Independence Day” and
“Diss me Donna!”

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

This web site as a contact list you can download (word or excel) that lists all the superdelegates and who they support, incuding those who switched from Clinton to Obama. I would urge everyone to contact those sd’s to make your case as to why they should switch back to Clinton.

Also, I spoke to a wonderful person at LobbyDelegates.com yesterday who informed me that normally at this point, the service that allows a person to contact superdelegates by state and candidate would have been taking down, but because there has been so much continued activity (mostly by Clinton supporters), they’ve decided to keep it up. Make sure you contact them to thank them. Also, be aware that they’re a non-profit and they send the letters via fax, which is a long distance call, so when they request a donation when you try to send your first letter, be as generous as you can (I know we’re all hard up for money right now, but…)

So good to be back in the loop. Been out there on some pretty negative blogs. Processing some anger, as we all have. Needed to rant to get through grief to get to healing. I love the collective focus of Puma Pac, and thank you for your hard work. Hello again andersen.

blog post from Riverdaughter

The Path that leads to Nowhere
Corinne Roosevelt Robinson
THERE’S a path that leads to Nowhere
In a meadow that I know,
Where an inland island rises
And the stream is still and slow;
There it wanders under willows
And beneath the silver green
Of the birches’ silent shadows
Where the early violets lean.
Other pathways lead to Somewhere,
But the one I love so well
Had no end and no beginning—
Just the beauty of the dell,
Just the windflowers and the lilies
Yellow striped as adder’s tongue,
Seem to satisfy my pathway
As it winds their sweets among.
There I go to meet the Springtime,
When the meadow is aglow,
Marigolds amid the marshes,—
And the stream is still and slow.—
There I find my fair oasis,
And with care-free feet I tread
For the pathway leads to Nowhere,
And the blue is overhead!
All the ways that lead to Somewhere
Echo with the hurrying feet
Of the Struggling and the Striving,
But the way I find so sweet
Bids me dream and bids me linger,
Joy and Beauty are its goal,—
On the path that leads to Nowhere
I have sometimes found my soul!

#370 antifish

Thank you

#312 Fred

I think “Voice of the Voters” speaks to our overall message.
But one quick question would “Voices of the Voters” make it stand for more ppl since all can not go to Denver and could the color of the text be multicolored/tiedyed/swirl? of red and blue outlined in navy or black against white t shirt? JMO

THANK YOU for all your hard work and late hours being put into this.

Trish sorry that was #346 great for the spreadsheet!

Hey Gay Gal – glad to see you found us here.

I don’t want to wear anything that has beanniebobo’s name or face on it! Yuck!

Question: how to I respond directly to another’s comment? Thanks for time to let me know.

Happy Independence Day! It’s been busy … I just gave $20 to the Denver travelers, $20.08 to HRC, and participated in a mock Colonial Town Meeting at the Old South Meeting House in Boston, MA this morning. The audience debated and voted about the 1773 tea tax, which led to the Boston Tea Party and, eventually, to the Revolutionary War. Hearing the famous words of the Loyalists and Patriots defending their positions on that fateful December day, it was inspiring to think that the Pumas truly are standing for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness! And unlike in 1773, this time, women actually have a say in how this land will be governed too!

Have a safe and happy holiday. Go Pumas!

#331 Goalucard4Hill

Lobby Superdelegates stopped updating on June 3, and since then many of the e-mails have changed. Hang tight the spreadsheet in the Action PAC section will be completed over the weekend and you will have updated e-mails for all SD’s that have their e-mail out there.

#361 Antifish
“Dances, Was that someone you sent an email to?”

I use PUMApac.org / NOBama in the signature of my personal (real name) email account and people have picked up on it.

I use it in my signature line for non-PUMA related websites as well. Just another way to get the word out.

#369 goandersen,

That’s beautiful!

#312 Fred

Suggest adding a few letters, more definitive for those viewing signs to understand.

DNC Selected, not Elected

#387 Dances,

That’s a great idea. I’ll try it.

Happy 4th everyone. I’ll post this again cause it’s interesting to watch. It’s video back in time (July 3, 1972) when there’s a controversy over the DNC stealing delegates:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/obama-backlash-in-his-online-backyard/

~~~~*******For PUMAs just joining us*****~~~~~~

PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS DETAILS OF THE DENVER TRIP ON THE BLOG.

Email, IM, Chat it up.

The blogs are public forums.

Oops… sorry… wrong link — let me do that again. I meant to post this video link back in time (July 3, 1972) when there’s a controversy over the DNC stealing delegates:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8663355

#390 Trish Rodham from Canada

I know the ones that I posted above are good – they bounced back to me because there was a problem with AOL when I sent them out via LobbyDelegates – and they all went out without being rejected – I do have several that are no longer in existence – if you like I can send you an email by State and name of those that no longer exist via LobbyDelegates.

Drac Rodham Puma

Did anyone see the video of Lybian President sharing his views on Obama and the election?

WoW! He knows Obama is a Muslim and he believes that Obama is telling Election Lies to become elected. The plan is pretty crazy scary if that is true.

I will grab and post in a few. Must see if you haven’t!

Fred –
Second suggestion for colors – I was assuming ppl were going with white t shirts – they would reflect heat but if they go with a color I say medium shade of yellow with same red/blue/white swirl lettering. Represents the yellow for flowers sent and the patriotic colors – kinda two fold.

I do like the “WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER” but do not know if they will care about that…the Convention is where they will be at and it is about the voters/their votes, being counted, respected and heard. If not I think they all know what will happen in November.

Just a thought.

RE: TX DEMOCRATIC PARTY HEARINGS ON CAUCUSES

My link to submit written testimony doesn’t work anymore, so I plan on calling the TDP in Austin on Monday. Please flood them with phone calls. Their number is (512) 478-9800. I want them to get rid of the so-called “Texas Two Step.” We don’t need a caucus system in Texas as we already vote individually. Why have both the popular vote and caucus system? Doesn’t make sense.

Also, don’t forget that LULAC’s National Convention will be in Washington, D.C. from July 8-11. BO, John Mccain and Hillary Clinton will all be speaking. Please send in your e-mail comments and protest letters to your local or national council at: http://www.lulac.org (or give them a call).

I made contributions today to HC and PUMA’s buses to Denver.

July 04, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
Amount:
$20.08
—————
Placed on Jul. 4, 2008
Purpose Donation
amount
BUSES TO DENVER $10.00 USD

Total Amount: $10.00 USD

Finally, thank you ElainePuma for your great letter to the superdelegates! Great work.

Best,
Lara08

(((((#170 antifish on 07.04.08 at 12:39 pm)))))

Hi ANTIFISH!!!!!!!!

405 Fred

“Yes, We Will”

#174 I’m worried that even sending questions to that e-mail address could be sent by a troll. I’m getting jumpy about everything now. What if someone joined up and is pretending to be for our cause and is a troll. How do we know that?

#402 won’t work we get jumped on for not uniting for bb

PAWS FOR A CAUSE is pretty cool!

By the way, I had a chance to watch the clip on Murphy an Fox News and I was PUMA PUMPED! Murphy was well spoken and confident.

Thumbs Up!

#417 1voice,

Yes, Murphy is a wonderful spokesperson for our group. We were all very proud of her when she appeared on FOX.

Trishfrom Canada – I think that I have asked this before and forgive me if you responded but are you Northern Girl from Canada that was at the HRC site?? If So I have been looking 4 U for weeks now – and you have been here all along.

Let us all hope that the Idependence Day donations that we make to Hillary will result in her independence of debt from this fight she put on for us.

Happy July Fourth to us all!

Heneri

#413 ladyhawkke

I use my spider sense when it comes to feeling a troll is about and then I tend to ignore them. works for me.

#421 Goalucard4Hill

I’m not northern girl but she does come here, she was here a few days ago in the late night EST time. I can let her know you were asking about her.

#423 Henerietta
Me too! I know this has been said many times but I hope the ppl that are donating use the link on the daily growl or make sure if you go any other hillary site that you read the small print in the disclosure that it “IS” going to pay off her debt. There was a post over on another site that the lady said she ended using the one that goes to her senate campaign funds.
SO just a reminder check where it is going before you confirm your donations.

I happen to be watching FOX and the Nameless One says that he is not ‘flip-flopping’ he’s only ‘changing positions’.

I would call that ‘peeing in my face, and telling me it’s raining’!!!!

GROWL POWER!
greta

#413 ladyhawkke,

We have no way of knowing if someone infiltrates us. We must assume that it has probably already happened.

LOL

#422 1of18Mil,

I’m sorry I missed your previous post. Thank you, I’m glad to be back among family.

I love the idea of paws on it! It’s so pumalicious!

#268 Cosmeta I tried again and it went thru.

Happy 4th, Puma Pals,

Growl Report: 20.08 donated to HRC to retire the debt.

If I could draw I’d create a cartoon with Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, Reid et al saying “There, there, nice kitty.” as they are stepping back from a large Puma who is guarding her puma cubs

T-shirt:
Remember BO’s saying “the claws come out”? Howsabout something like “You want to see claws? with a nonchalant Puma licking its paws.

ont the prowl

madazhel
a California Puma

#423 Henerietta,

Yes, nothing would make me happier than to hear on the news tomorrow that Hillary had a record fund-raising day today!

I am going to put power into the positive thought that Hillary Clinton will be the next President!

If anyone has read or watched the “Secret” then they know what I am talking about.

Thoughts become reality! I will visualize her as President.
The DNC was able to control the primary but they can’t control what I think!

#446 goandersen

oh yeah!

or how about scattered coins and then “Change you cannot bank on”

I was scanning the blogs today and noticed the Obamabots seem to be in a serious retreat from their nasty comments and Rah Rah Obama mode. Maybe they are having a hard time digesting his latest flip-flops? Anyone else notice that they are pretty quiet?

SO THAT’S WHAT IT MEANS!

Click on an underlined puma name to a post and it becomes a link.

So far I’ve been sent to an artist, a poet, a blogger, an error: can’t find web page, and back here to PUMA PAC.

We have a creative bunch of pumas here, I see. A solid sign of intelligence.

I play guitar, myself. But not well enough yet to put a line under maxgrader.

#431 gordana,

LOL. He’s finally defining the elusive “change” he’s been spouting off about. It means repeatedly “change” positions on all policies until you have everyone so confused that they stop asking questions.

#290 john on 07.04.08 at 2:09 pm

Great idea, John. I’m in.

THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF – Thanks for sharing the video. we need email the media – and talking heads about this video. Obviously the Muslim world is already trying to take Obama under their wings and curry solidarity because of his Kenyan roots.

I will so my stealth bulk email again tonight. People need to see this… Can someone who is really eloquent write a short blurb to accompany this video ? I would like to use it in conjunction with the U tube link.

OH PLEASE,,, someone who knows how to save this link to their own server before it is taken down and disappears from cyberspace..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2737QUBxFY

#324 Annabelle Thanx for making it easy. You’re the greatest!

#312 Fred I like Selected Not Elected also.

#331 Goalucard4Hill Thanks for that info. Will have to do tomorrow, don’t have any more time today.

I saw a comment above about the “claws coming out” it inspired me to post this again.

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY

Roar! The mighty PUMA listened and swooned. She almost fainted from the inspirational words echoing from the EMPTY SUIT, “STOP PUMA!” Dressed in BLACK, the PUMA hesitated and froze in her tracks. She casually sat for a moment, one paw holding a MARGARITA, and sipped from her straw. The winds carried high pitched sounds to her ears. It sounded like a pack of wounded animals were approaching her. The mighty PUMA turned to see Nancy Pelosi running towards her. Her single FLIP FLOP dangling from her feet, HALF the democrat she used to be, shouting “PLEASE COME BACK”! Close behind her was Howling Howard Dean with his Hound Dog “Rendell” on a leash, tracking the mighty PUMA. Donna Brazille trailed behind them sporting a Tee-shirt that read, I’M NEUTRAL, I REALLY AM!” In the rear, Kennedy, Richardson, and Edwards were holding out their hands SEEKING DONATIONS, while John Kerry rode along in his SWIFTBOAT named “DESPERATELY SEEKING VOTES”. The mighty PUMA proudly rose to join her PUMAPAC. She stepped forward towards the CONVENTION and flicked her tail on her shoulder in DISMISSIVE DISSENT. Then she tossed some PUMA DOLLARS over her shoulder and roared “NO DEAL”. Stunned, they watched the Mighty PUMA strut off with her integrity intact and tail raised high. They looked on in utter disbelief and denial, to see a sign swinging from the mighty PUMAs tail with the message “ SEE YOU IN DENVER!”

I def. believe that there is evil in the world but I like the message of our ability to create what we think.

It’s too long to get into here but it really works.

No offense taken Trish. I understand where you are coming from. I think we all apply that law of attraction in our lives without even realizing it. And I also do not think that we create all the evil that affects our lives.

I certainly didn’t ask for the great Deceiver Obama.

Fred:

I like the idea for paws on the sign, so how about
PAWS WITH CLAWS

Then something anti BO.

#362 SUZY T I’m not from Jax but am 85 miles away in Palm Coast. I’m 1/2 of a person!

I usually don’t post, I have a hard enough time trying to keep up with all of you!
I just donated 20.08 for Hillary.
Please reconsider donating to McCain until AFTER the convention. (Don’t want to give him money until we know who he is running against!)
We may even want to designate a day so that we all contribute at one time like we are doing today for Hill.
Hope to see you in Denver.

I donated I didn’t have $20.00 but I donated $7.08 and I did just recently order some stuff so hopefully that will help her also…

#472 and keep the CLAWS part as BIG CAT LOVER says.

1voice,

Put the Margarita down now!

When I turned on FOX this morning — the newscasters were having a debate about how much Obama appears to have aged on the campaign trail (the gray hair) compared to how he looked a year ago. I found this discussion interesting from the perspective of a sign that the newscasters are setting the stage to diminish his appeal and his image. Kind of like the subtle and not so subtle attacks on Hillary’s appearance.

BTW.. has anyone watched this? I posted a couple of times previously today and was curious to any opinions of the comparison to the DNC this year and what went on back in 1972 with McGovern:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8663355

Former Republican N.C. Sen. Jesse Helms dies at 86 (AP)

#477 BigCat,

My reaction is that paws without claws could be painful. Just kidding. LOL!

I’d better go to the store and get my paper. I’m getting silly too early in the day today and don’t want to get into trouble here.

ok going home be back in a few hours

#484 antifish

OWW!

It sure doesn’t pay to sleep in and start the blog at comment 400+
A few comments without remembering all the links- Nader as a choice over McCain I could do, he at least is for many environmental, less political bs, type of person. He won’t win anyway, so it isn’t as if I have to worry about the details. I will never vote for a Republican on principle since their basic beliefs are more centered on the individual than for the good of all.
Someone mentioned the bus ride only cost $35. Where is that from?
Altitude sickness, ick. I got sick just going up to the volcano in Hawaii…wonder if Denver would not be a good idea for me as much as I really want to go. Any info on this to help me make a decision would be appreciated.
Happy 4th of July PUMAs!

Taffy #88 follwing is the place to send info on Texas Caucus issues.
Dear fellow Democrats,
I am pleased to inform you the first meeting of the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System has been scheduled. Headed by Senator Royce West, this first of several meetings will convene at the Austin Community College Health Science Building, Building 9000 in the Multi Purpose Hall room 8500 in Austin, Texas on July 7, 2008 at 10:00am. The campus is located at 3401 Webberville Rd, Austin, Texas 78702.
This Committee which Senator West and I have appointed has been charged with studying the current convention/caucus system. Furthermore, based on the testimony taken at these meetings, the committee will then consider this feedback and possibly make recommendations for changes.
While all meetings will be open to the public, the first committee meeting will be limited to invited testimony only. Senator West and the Committee members wish to use this initial meeting as an informational session. They will discuss with current and former Party leaders the history and development of the current convention/caucus system.
Those wishing to participate at this meeting are encouraged to submit written testimony to the Committee, or complete an online survey, available on the Texas Democratic Party website. Additionally, there will be other hearings held in Austin and throughout the state where public testimony will be taken in order to learn about your personal experience with the convention/caucus system. Those hearings will be scheduled at a later date.
So whether it is by completing the online survey or by attending the upcoming Committee meetings, I hope you will take a moment to share your thoughts. Your feedback will play an important role as we continue to explore our current Democratic Primary process. Only by working together will we be able to grow and strengthen as a Party.
Thank you again for helping us make your Party stronger and more unified than ever before.
Your friend and fellow Democrat,
Boyd L. Richie
Chairman
Hope this helps. Happy 4th!
Witchy 1

This is a new link on how the choosen one might be forming yet another flip-flop on the abortion issue. Too bad we don’t have a running list of true flip-flops on the site.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-sounding.html

I’m going home now to file my nails

#480 mzebest

Took me awhile to watch the video before I commented. First, the report shows that taking the nomination to the convention was the norm in the past, not some aborration. Second, I noticed Mayor Daley, Sr. of Chicago was involved again in delegate tampering. Do you know why 150+ delegates for Mcgovern were in question? Lastly, the ruling that the concredentials committee had the final say is not good for our cause.

Pause for paws. It’s got claws for a cause

FOR USERS WITH GMAIL

Please go into main email page and in the upper right there is a link called Settings. Change your identity to something other than your real name, preferably your PUMA name.

This will prevent others from knowing your name and using it to find out personal info about you. They did it to murphy, they’ll do it to us.

Make sure you SAVE your changes.

Thanks Trish – please tell Northern Girl I said hey – maybe we could convince her to stay here with us – those Canadians are always hard workers.

#463 – LadyHawkke Rodham Puma – thanks for your help.

Drac

Darn. In my rush to get out my idea before anyone else could think of it I neglected my grammar and was incongruent. That should be “They’ve” not “It’s”. Plural on plural.

#502 Maryland PUMA

Thanks.

#498 BigCatLover

Thanks for commenting. I wasn’t voting age back in 1972 and have to admit that I was still in High School and not very politically aware… so I don’t remember any of this. I agree with you that there is a similarity of the DNC getting the last word which isn’t good for our current situation — but I found it fascinating that they did attempt to steal delegates before. And also interesting in the similarities is that McGovern didn’t win that election. So there’s hope we can at least succeed in thwarting Obama’s success for participating in this kind of corrupt behavior. That’s my 4th of July goal.

312 Fred – I feel whatever you put on the banners, it should either include the name and/or initials/and or pic of either BO or Hillary – depending on the sign. I feel we should identify to those who do not know us who/what specifically we are for/against.

PUMA Talent Growl as of July 4,2008
3:31 pm
If you wish to be added:
1. Jeremy on the first line of post
2. A brief description of your skills that you want to share
with the rest of our group.
3. Email is faster and easier in keeping this current. The mail address has been previously posted for those wishing to go that route. Thanks and Happy 4th!

thatswhattimeitis: CPA (Certified Public Accountant),financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa: fluent in Spanish, photoshop CS3, PC video editing
(see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Misogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas: graphics,website design, photoshop, flash
Webfoot: Legal Research
Ginanswo: calls, faxing, copying, mailing
Michelle 47: has meeting space available(OH area) for organizational purposes
ABinNY: photographer, skills in photoshop CS2
bythelake: regular mail, email, faxes, donations
ontherocks: calls, emails, mailing SD and media
sycoram_in_MO: mails. emails, sending out flyers, calls
1of18MilforHILL08: keep addresses, emails, fax # current if changed (those of individuals or groups that others would like to contact)
MJE4HRC: writer(composing/editing letters)
Sheila7: emails(taking ideas, making a plan, and do the job)

There once was a man named Obama
Who said he didn’t want any drama.
So sent his surrogates ahead,
To create it instead
And soon he’ll be just crying mama!

BTW we are not “invited”

#515 Middle age Female

Make that last line read
‘And soon he’ll be just crying Donna’ (for Brazile)

#3 PumaAllie on 07.04.08 at 10:35 am
from Annabellep

http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/#comment-240

====

Puma Allie, thanks for this posting~!

This document is for mailing to delegates, nailing to the door of state Dem headquarters, passing out as fliers!

There once was a man named Obama
Who said he didn’t want any drama.
So sent his surrogates ahead,
To create it instead
And soon he’ll be just crying to Donna!

RBC, I thought I was the one
You told me this was already done
Now some voters aren’t fine
They won’t fall in line
You promised that I ‘d already won.

Fred – All of the ideas are great but I like “Paws for a cause” the best with paw prints. Something to think about is if BO is no longer the nominee after Denver then anything with his name on it would be worthless at that point. If his name isn’t on it then we could continue to use it all the way to November and beyond to fight the DNC, support Hillary, etc.

By the way thank you for all your hard work.

Happy 4th PUMAs-I have been catching up on posts and saw some questions for me. Before I get to them I am going to do a blanket congratulations to all the PUMAs for the posts I read. I started making a list of specific ones I wanted to comment on and my list is now so long it’s insane. pumaAllie, trish,DawnE, nhhillary, the list goes on and on. What a wonderful 4th of July!

I will do the answers the questions in separate posts so that this one doesn’t get too long.

#67 MAXGRADER Don’t know if you saw my post a few days ago but if not…

Hi, just wanted you to know I donated $25 to Pumas a few days ago — $20 from me and I matched your $5 if you chose to donate.

Thank you everyone for all the links and good info. today. The Independence Day and constitution blogs give me goosebumps — just like the National Anthem always does.

To be independent and free — how lucky are we!!!

diva2

502 maryland puma

That is, go to the Main Gmail page.

PUMA Talent Growl as of July 4,2008
4:05 pm
If you wish to be added:
1. Jeremy on the first line of post
2. A brief description of your skills that you want to share
with the rest of our group.
3. Email is faster and easier in keeping this current. The mail address has been previously posted for those wishing to go that route. Thanks and Happy 4th!

thatswhattimeitis: CPA (Certified Public Accountant),financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa: fluent in Spanish, photoshop CS3, PC video editing
(see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Misogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas: graphics,website design, photoshop, flash
Webfoot: Legal Research
Ginanswo: calls, faxing, copying, mailing
Michelle 47: has meeting space available(OH area) for organizational purposes
ABinNY: photographer, skills in photoshop CS2
bythelake: regular mail, email, faxes, donations
ontherocks: calls, emails, mailing SD and media
sycoram_in_MO: mails. emails, sending out flyers, calls
1of18MilforHILL08: keep addresses, emails, fax # current if changed (those of individuals or groups that others would like to contact)
MJE4HRC: writer(composing/editing letters)
Sheila7: emails(taking ideas, making a plan, and do the job)
Hill2TheHill: actress, singer, dancer (not famous) http://218467.spreadshirt.com/us/US/SHOP/

custom T-Shirts(all proceeds pledged go to Murphy@pumapac)

here is a link to an article talking about the welcoming of 600 delegates on Aug 24 at the convention
http://www.politicswest.com/democratic_national_convention

Happy 4th of july to everyone !!!!!!!!!
i just donated my 20.08 to help retire our debt !!!!

Lets all do this to be debt free for the convention !!!!!
Then if we can donate alittle bit to help here at Puma so we will have the funds to go to Denver!!!!!!!!!!

Fight on PUMAS !!!!!!!
Have a great day all !!!!!!!!!!
Be back to read all posts later tonight !!!!!!

Good lord I leave you all alone for just under a day and 5 days worth of stuff has gone on and everyone is almost packed and on their way out the door to Denver. Oh happy days are here again -I see our double duo furry fiendish feline friends goanderson and antifish have returned yaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! Don’t get to get many words in edge wide but I’m glad your back.

I’m sure everyone knows by now that the birth certificate on the Daily Kos is in fact a fake (though we all knew that beforehand.)

Why do you think he won’t show the real one? I think we deserve to see it, and if there’s nothing to hide, he shouldn’t have a problem showing it.

A very happy 4th of July to you’ll very busy PUMAs.

I see alot of new names, means new PUMAs

#106 1voice2stopcorruption, long name but soo apropo. I’ve enjoyed your comments.

I’m kind of sad because I will not be able to go to Denver physically. However, my energy and my heart will go along and will be with you…

Have a wonderful growl!

Independence Day contribution for HRC. Done.

cconnell ty I will do–Right now I’m just in the thinking stages…
Last time I was at a convention was in 56(?) LOL—My mom got us into the Rep in San Francisco. (No she wasnt rep–She was always a die-Heart Dem). I have a feeling she is one the many many Dems rolling in over in their graves at this mess the DNC is pulling.

ooooo: Mikes Hard Lemonade sounds really good right now. I think I will have one in HRC’s honor!

Cheers! Madame President!

Hey Murphu, side note…I recently heard that in elections, newspaper advertising the day before the election gets alot of independent or unsure people to vote your way. Maybe this is already in the works or too expensive –radio and or newspaper ads in Denver to vote for HRC. It would be one more way to remind the delegates to vote for Senator Clinton. Most middle to high end hotels leave the morning newspaper at their guests door. Just a thought and don’t know if it will be cost-prohibitive.

diva2

Was suppose to Murphy, not Murphu!

I am here in Europe
I just spoke 2 members of my family in USA
and by no means they are “the boy”´s supporters
they are MCAAIN´s
but more or less
they say the way they see it
the probabilities that the boy wins in Nov. are high
one is middle age woman
and the other is a young man involve in politics
& now I really feel bad
what is going to happen to our beloved country¡¡¡¡¡

545
never mind. I found it.
Great read. Definitely a to do!

diva2,
I think that the delegates in Denver would not pay much attention to a paid ad in a Denver paper, if they even picked up the paper at all. We’d be paying for a lot of local Denver readership who aren’t delegates.

You might check if there is some flyer service that might put out some at the last minute. But even then the delegates would probably ignore them. They wll be considering what their party bosses or their constitutents think.

I just put this entry on the Caucus article that shows reaction to Obama flip on FISA or was it hmm anyway… I saw a bunch of former Obamatrons saying they have changed their support or were going to not vote so I wrote their numbers down and sent them this message:

Do not dispair or stay away from the polls… join PUMA’s, or donedems.com, or JustSayNoDeal.com… you have choices and people who will support you … let’s change the system as to how the DNC nominates their candidates!!! On this Independence day remember the words of Patrick Henry (These are the last two paragraphs of his famous speech):

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ”

SAY: WE will not shut up and sit down!!! We will not “JUST GET OVER IT”. WE WILL OVERCOME!!!!

Hope we see them in the group at Denver!!!

I was just thinking – can you imagine the poor accountant doing the donations – here comes another one for $20.08, here comes another one for $5.44. LOL

diva2:

Yes I saw your post then as I see it now… strictly by chance this time too. That is so weird it must mean something of a compelling nature. Yes I’ll “see” your $5 and raise you another $20.

So that means for now I will give our beloved leader to the PUMA cause $25. $5 more from you and we’ve just done something extraordinarily fine.

But wait first for confirmation from Murphy (I’d hate for you to give more money before I do). Send her an email asking “Has maxgrader (or Kent…that’s my real me) contributed $25″ yet? She has my okay to confirm. I’ll whip out the plastic tonight and just do it before any nervousness has a chance to settle in about me being a jinx (When I contributed to Hillary things didn’t work out so well). Once confirmed then it’s up to you to give $5 more. I’ll trust you so I won’t ask for confirmation.

There we go. Thanks to you diva2 PUMA will be $50 dollars closer to making a difference in either a bus ride to the convention in Denver ( I can’t go, unfortunately) or for promoting our cause.

That was a fun way to get money out of miserly maxgrader.

#568 DaddysDarlin

Denver has excellent mass transit. (Used to live there). Their buses go from Denver to Bolder.

#559 turndownobama

Very good point on the ads.

Here’s something we can consider. When I attend conferences, each morning the staff in the hotels slip flyers, notices, etc pertaining to that days events, under each hotel room door. Perhaps we can arrange with hotels , who allow this, to do the same for us. We can make an attractive eye-catching flyer for it. Like the pic on todays growl. We wouldn’t need many words, many won’t read it, but they will see Hillary’s face and that thought will be with them, even when they don’t realize it.

Hi-Paw, low paw, middle paw for mamapumamass!! Thanks for all you are doing.

Fred– Thanks for the banners and your willingness to help out so much

Antifish, witchy1, go anderson, webfoot, middle age female )me too, texassherry, sandipuma and so many more
—- thank you for your great ideas and the research and information you bring all of us. Your contributions are noted all the time even if I don’t say it.

#544 Diva the do not call list does not apply to political campaigns. they had a news story on it because so many people were complaining during the caucus.

We PUMAS are having a great time celegrating the 4th in our own inimicable way. Love the puns and limerics.
Kool-aid drinkers could never be that clever.

check out: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080702_its_not_the_man_its_the_movement
Hope Obama doesn’t read it . . . he’s beginning to self-destruct.

#578 crystalpuma thanks for the news I saw a little on the news MO had her hair back in a short tail. I looked at him and shouted at my TV scum bucket. I know real mature but I felt better, again thanks

anybody seen N. Lee??

#571 MAXGRADER You are on! Sent an email to Murphy. Yes, it is a great thing and it will come back to you in so many ways!

diva2 aka Kim

#579 Darn. I tried! By the way thank you for all you bring and do for us. I don’t always respond but do read yours and other posts.

Shout out to MARYLANDPUMA Thank you for taking over some of the workload from Murphy. What great people you all are and for such a worthy cause. VERY appreciated!

diva2

From a KoolAid Drinker:

First, a brief introduction:
I made a donation to Senator Clinton’s campaign when she was running for U.S. Senate – and I do not live in New York. I did everything I could to convince people I know who didn’t support Hillary during the primary season – that if she became the candidate, they needed to throw their support behind her in the general election, as I would have done. Until this spring, I would have been pleased to support Hillary in 2012 if the 2008 election were won by John McCain.

No more.

Let’s get three things straight. All are crystal clear. They WILL happen.

1. John McCain WILL win the election in November 2008.
2. P.U.M.A., Just Say No Deal, No Quarter, and the 100+ other groups that have exploded into the political arena in the last three weeks WILL be the reason why John McCain wins the election this November.
3. With Barack Obama dispatched back to Illinois, Senator Hillary Clinton WILL be the Democratic Party nominee in 2012.

After P.U.M.A. and friends are finished with Obama over the next four months, he probably won’t even be re-electable to the Senate. He will likely be defeated by a Republican.

In your successful campaign, you will dispense far more vitriolic hatred directed at Barack Obama than will come from Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, or other lunatic fringe right-wing extremists. You’ll be in good company with them, but you’ll outdo them several-fold in the intensity of your war against your sworn enemy – Barack Obama.

So what about 2012? When Hillary is the nominee, the acronym P.U.M.A. won’t be of much use to you, will it? Neither will Just Say No Deal, No Quarter, or I Own My Vote.

No, in 2012, it will be YOU and your ilk who are calling for ‘Party Unity’ to elect your nominee – Hillary.

And we won’t have forgotten.

I will be fully retired in 2012. That year, I will dedicate my very existence to shouting from the mountaintop (and on the Internet) “Party Unity, My Ass.” I will be an organizer, as you are now. And I won’t be alone.
We will turn the tables on you. We will give you a taste of you medicine.

In the meantime, it is my dream and fervent hope that I will open the newspaper one morning this year and read with delight that a member of the P.U.M.A. coalition went hiking in some western foothills, and was attacked, mauled, torn to shreds, and half eaten . . . by a real PUMA. Then I will go back to believing it is a beautiful animal.

P.S.: I’ll be in Denver.

__________________

Among other things, I told him we’ll see him in Denver.

# 586 GosueF4Hil

I know how you feel. I too would have never voted republican, but without Hillary, McCain is the only one out there with a chance of beating Obama. I too will be voting McCain – anything else I’m afraid is just siphoning off votes. A republican will be hard but Obama would be intolerable.

Dear koolaid drinker
Hillary won the election NOW, not in 20012. It is NOW she should be nominated. By 20012 the Gore 2003 rule will apply.
Glad you see the strength of PUMA.
P.S. They don’t eat their own – unlike the ironically named Democratic party.

CrystalPuma

Thanks for the update. The man’s shout would make a good slogan for the thingy PUMA’s will wear in Denver:

“Keep the change, PUMA’s want Accountability.”

#594 Maryland PUMA

LOL That was rich!

I think it would behoove us to consider sending out a flyer in the Money Mailers or in the Sunday Coupon fliers.

Any thoughts?

586 GoSuef
I agree. I have never voted for a repub. I do not see McCain as a repeat of Bush. It is definitely a tough call for many.
For me. I would rather cut my hands off then to vote for Mr. Snuff Ball.
I do believe our HRC will be the nominee and I hold the vision in my mind and in my heart everyday.

594 maryland puma

LMAO!

messin with the site again, I guess.

I agree with #600 & others that have posted on stragic voting. I had already decided to McCain Vote, or as I like to call it, McVote for the same reasons. Sure Hillary was my and could still be my first choice. I’m registered as a Dem too, but I’m aginst BO. A McVote will mean BO needs one more vote to beat McCain. If I don’t vote I’m just stepping aside to let BO in the whitehouse. I also know there is no way a 3rd party vote will keep BO out of the whitehouse. No one wants BO in the whitehouse. That just stinks. So my logic is to McVote, but that’s just my opinon.

All right where’d everybody go? Are we under attack? I want my (Puma’s!!!!!!)

I am also voting for McCain. I can’t stay home and not vote.
I wanted to write Hillary in but in Connecticut it will only count as a protest vote it would be like writing in Sponge Bob for POTUS.

diva2 (#587):

Looks like money isn’t so easy to give away here. Just emailed Murphy that the page for contributing won’t accept mine.

I’m ready with a credit card for speed. Sometimes though the old fashinoned ways of payment work best. Actually, I’d rather send a check for security reasons.

Awaiting Murphy’s reply.

I am trying to post on CNN and none of posts are going through. That drives me nuts.

I am voteing McCain also if not Hillary. If the golden boy keeps it up might be easier to get her now.I think he is messing up with flip flops.We cannt underestimate him though

fred I saw that its great. Can you send that to Hannity at fox? He’s been doing some good owrk there.

oops work i ment

I’m so glad you guys came back. I thought I would have to check into Puma rehab or something.

I just got booted off the internet. I need to go make ribs, corn on the cob, and tater salad anyway. (It’s on 4:17 in AZ) Happy 4th and best.

P.S. glad go-fish are back. Is that a card game?

You can’t put flyers “in” mailboxes But you can stick them behind the flag. I fold them over in half and stick them on the outside, under the flag or tape them, whatever. The federal law is that you just can’t open the box and put anything in it. The outside is fair game.

Also flourescent paper like orange and green grabs peoples attention and they will read them on the way back to the house. It’s really effective.

Accountability breeds Response-ability

#595 Notyoursweetie

Good point about pumas not eating their own.

#591 Maryland PUMA

“In the meantime, it is my dream and fervent hope that I will open the newspaper one morning this year and read with delight that a member of the P.U.M.A. coalition went hiking in some western foothills, and was attacked, mauled, torn to shreds, and half eaten . . . by a real PUMA. Then I will go back to believing it is a beautiful animal. P.S. I’ll be in Denver.”

These frat boys are so violent. Imagine wasting your time and energy fantasizing someone’s violent death just because they’ll be casting a vote differently than you will? It’s astounding. No wonder they are so susceptible to kool-aid.

Love the threat at the end: P.S. I’ll be in Denver.
What a freak.

“CHANGE” DOESN’T MEAN “IMPROVEMENT”

went back (was I being foolish?) to yestodemocracy.org
I saw they are still being repugnant about pumas and they have deleted all but a few puma responses… so far they have 5 story lines going for us and have had 95 posts on the whole site… what a joke… one said we never give reasons for our stance so i sent them and she deleted it stating it was too long… LOL I called the site a joke in a “short” comment and left…

Hi PUMAs

Not much time inbetween barbeques, etc. Did find the following information on OpenSecrets about O’s giving to fellow senators and repre during elections. He has a PAC called HOPE Fund where all his donations come from. In 2002, there were no donations from this PAC. In 2004, no donations (probably because he wasn’t in the Senate yet either year). Then 2006 (the year he was elected into the Senate), his PAC gave $337,526 to House Demos (71 repres) The largest donation was $12,326 to Patrick Murphy (D-PA). The smallest donation was $1,000 ea. to six different reps. Another $239,243 was given to Senate Demos (38). The largests donations were $10,000 ea. to 14 different Senators (MaCaskill being one of them). The smallest donations were $2,000 to Daniel Hynes in Illinois.

In 2008 (this year to date) he has donated $227,000 to House Demos (51) and $68,000 to Senate Demos(11). The largest donation to a rep. was $9,000 to David Loebsack (D-IA) and in the Senate, $10,000 ea to Tom Allen (D-ME), Mark udall (D-CO), and Mark Warner(D-VA)

Obviously, 2006 was the bigger year because he wasn’t “running for President” so to speak. But he was sure shoring up his base. Look at where these particular people are from and that even more interesting.

If you want to do more analysis, go to OpenSecrets.org. It’s easy to navigate.

313 Fred,

Color theme: dark blue background, with gold letters

Wording:

IT’S NOW
OR NEVER

NEVER TOO LATE
HILLARY IN ‘08

PLEDGE OR A WEDGE
HILLARY IN ‘08

HEAR US ROAR
SHOW BRO THE DOOR

HILLARY IN ‘08
THERE CAN BE NO OTHER

HILLARY IN ‘08
YES YOU CAN!

CORRECTION
NOT DECEPTION

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!

I kind of like Selection Not Selection
But I’m not so sure about using any image of BHO

Anyway… you asked
so my 2 cents worth

Murphy, I get CNN new alerts about our unDemocratic Party. I sent you a copy. Thought you might be interested..

Bill Schneider is wrong; we will not forget by November.

Keep up the great work.
Bonnie

If anyone wants to get involved in the focus on the Swing
States email: cruccia@ymail.com

I have her permission to post.
Cynthia Ruccia, Co-Founder of Women For Fair Politics

Murphy – Thank you, for all you do.

I was just thinking, so forgive me if I ramble on.

I can’t believe it’s one month since this site began – I think I was one of the first few who couldn’t fill the first page of bloggers.

Remembering how upset and depressed I had become by the end of May, and what a relief it was to find this wonderful site, I can’t help but wonder how people who are not as politically aware (and I’m not that aware), are dealing with it. Have they become apathetic and resolved in accepting the Nameless One because they don’t want another four years of McBush?

WE KNOW, BUT I think there are too many Democrats out there who feel it’s a done deal, not understanding that Hillary did NOT concede, but ONLY suspended her campaign. If more people knew that she is still BREATHING, they may see ‘real’ HOPE and might reconsider.

How do we get this message to them – Fox, MSNBC, CNN, AARP?

GROWL POWER
greta

Do any of you PUMAs know of one of the 100s of Hillary supporting websites with PUMA folks that don’t support Obama and won’t vote for McCain???

Does anyone know how to get a list of state delegates (not super delegates) to the National convention. I did find a site, but our State delegates weren’t listed. Only about half of the states were listed. I e-mailed the executive director of the state party to see if I could get it that way. I wanted to send the info from post #3 to each of them. I’ve tried to get a list via people who attended the state convention, but that is next to impossible because the list wasn’t complete until after the convention was over. I’ve tried looking in the large state newspapers for coverage, but haven’t found anything yet. At this point, I’m sending the information to each of the Super Delegates in our state.

#653 BilleJo-Not all Pumas will vote for McCain. The one thing we all have in common is that we won’t vote for Obama. Many of us (me included) will vote for McCain as a stratigic move to keep Obama out but if you would rather vote third party or not vote that is fine too. You have to do what you feel is right for you.

Everyone on here is younger than me, I bet.

313 Fred,

RIGHT
NOT WRIGHT

REACH FOR
THE CEILING

MAD AS HELL!
DNC FELL

CHANGE NOW!
FOR UNITY

ONE VOICE
ONE CHOICE
HILLARY IN ‘08

Contribution Details
Date: July 04, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
Contact: jennifer
Amount: $100.44

So glad to declare my independence today! In honor of Hillary and her family we donated to PAY OFF HER DEBT and allow her to continue to push for her rightful position as the Democratic Presidential Nominated Candidate for President 2008.

Looks like CNN’s last poll shows the DNC and ‘that man’ that Hillicrats will NEVER give up–since ‘unity’ day, according to this poll, ‘that man’ has lost ANOTHER 16% of Hillicrats. This means that over TWO AND A HALF MILLION Hillicrats have now spit out the kool aid–GO GIRLS GO!!

Happy 4th everyone. I feel like I haven’t posted in forever. Summer is crazy at my house.

Anyway, I have been doing the daily growls. Also, I sent an e-mail to a cousin of mine asking her to join Pumapac. She then sent it on to an uncle of her husband. This uncle then sent her an email suggesting that we were republicans trying to divide the democratic party and that Hillary would probably have won if Bill had kept his mouth shut. Sounds definitely like an Obama supporter.

That made me so angry. Anyway, I wrote back posting the Declaration of Objections from the top of this thread and told my cousin to let her uncle know that anyone who thinks that Bill lost the election for Hillary has been watching too much CNN. Also that the DNC divided the party, not us, and we are not republicans. My response was pages long. My cousin will probably regret telling me what her uncle said.

It is so hard sometimes to keep my cool when people are so ignorant, but I tried hoping to convince the uncle why we are doing what we are doing.

656 halligan
I am not that far behind you!

#459 FRED I’ve seen this video before but someone commented that we don’t know what he’s really saying. It could be propaganda. I don’t know unless someone understands what the hell he’s speaking. As for downloading it to your computer, when you go to Utube, there is a link that says “Download this video” When you click on it, it usually goes into your Real Player, that’s where I have some of Obambi’s things saved. I started to download but then when I came back here, it quit. Will have to do it when I’m done.

658 hillaryistheone
I would say he doesn’t know his A– from a keyhole!

Patronizing Bafoon!

659 Halligan
What would we do without wisdom?? That means you.

#659 BET NOT HALLIGAN – I am 86 years old……but still young enough to fight for Hillary during my lifetime.

Drac

#660 hillaryhead

I am not angry….I just am not stupid enough to vote for an empty suit!! And I am just smart enough to see that the DNC and Democartic party elites have shafted WE THE PEOPLE that are the real Democrats of this shameless party.

comment on Why Clinton voters say they won’t support Obama
The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.
By Rebecca Traister [2008-06-23]

_____________________________________
too many isms.
They are mad that everyone believes them to be old, white and racist.
In other words, they know how the men in the party feel. They know how West Virginia feels. They know how Obama supporters feel about constantly being accused of sexism and/or misogyny.

The Democratic Party and the progressive movement need to ease off the constant name calling and loose accusations of bigotry, and start giving the diverse voices of people both within and without (in several senses) room to breathe, rather than judging people and groups by a single misplaced phrase (“bitter”, “cling”, “sweetie”; “hard-working white voters”, Kennedy assassination, etc.)–or, even worse, forcing interpretations on the actions of others without significant evidence. We’re not only wrecking the party, we’re undermining the capacity for open debate.

– brasslantern

____________________________

Now here is a thinker versus an hysterical reactor.

other comments are old time: not patriots “The Deeper Issue is Patriotism not Sexism
These partisans are about to repeat the error of the anti-war generation who defected rather than vote in an imperfect system. They’re “taking it personal” and thereby basically conceeding to the side who really wants to see a return to a pre-60’s culture.”, ? racist: “Lamenting the nomination of the first black candidate because you were only interested in a white female nominee is the mentality of the old, white feminists… and it’s a very unfortunate view. (hippies?)
Clinton supporters may not be racist, but their obsession with the advancement of white women, combined with apparent indifference to racism (not to mention actual policy), makes it hard to take the PUMAs seriously.” aha, race card.

Boy oh boy, I did not realize how nutzy these unsophisitcated unPumas were. Whew. Batten down the hatches, get your teeth cleaned, watch your back.

Denver or Bust

If someone tells you that you are a racist if you don’t vote for Obama then just tell them “Me racist? Are you Kidding? The only thing I like about him is that he is black.”

Hi Hilligan, My step mom is a puma member and she is 74 years young. she will be posting by this weekend…she has had a tough time getting logged on..But, thanks to the great support group here she has logged in….I and my friends will send ( snail mail) our donation for Hillary. And, we will send to Murphy $$$ for Denver. I have to be honest I worked for Hillary since Feb. 08 (Volunteering, $$$$$$ , Calling and doing everything I could to do. But, I do not feel comfortable send $$$ at her site. Since, BO has taken over…So, our Donation will get there by Tuesday or Wednesday…. I will be handing out flyer’s in my neighborhood and at the shopping mall over this weekend. Also, we have a Stater Bros Market who will let me offer information about Puma as long as I am not asking for $$$..So, I and a friend will be doing that on Sunday. Here in CA that is a great Shopping day to catch everyone. Murphy and Everyone HAPPY 4TH OF JULY… wishing all of you the very best in Health, Happiness and Love….Take Care, Suzanne